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LinuxJonesSt0n3-C0l, have you run into any problems with it so far ?12:00
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topyliXTC: if you can set up iptables, you might as well write the commands into a script and run it at boot time. what's the problem?12:00
St0n3-C0lLinuxJones: Just getting it12:00
Dr_JekyllXTC: i personally would use shorewall (a frontend for iptables, much more clear and easy)12:01
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St0n3-C0lLinuxJones: I'll soon pass my comments on it :P12:01
LinuxJonesSt0n3-C0l, I think that I will let ummmm..... you install first :)12:01
XTCtopyli i dunno much about linux xD that's the problem12:02
XTC:p12:02
XTCshorewall hm....12:02
grout_i tried to ssh into my machine but my password dosnt work12:02
grout_does it have a diffrent defauly password or something12:02
topyliXTC: then just install firestarter and run the wizard. :) why do you need a firewall anyway?12:02
rempresentdcraven:  it said that ndiswrapper isnt installed12:02
theinegrout_: no12:02
XTCno, i need it for sharing inet in my house12:03
theinegrout_, with which command did you ssh into your machine?12:03
rempresentdcraven:  but i am sure i installed it, i typed in "dpkg -i whateverthenameofpackage.deb"12:03
grout_ssh (ip)12:03
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topyliXTC: ok, firestarter makes that easy12:03
theinegrout_, and (ip) was?12:03
dcravenrempresent, did you compile it yourself?12:03
rempresentumm12:03
theinegrout_, did you try 'ssh localhost'?12:04
rempresentdcraven:  i don't know, i just typed that in, what else do i need to do12:04
grout_69.173.176.9412:04
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dcravenrempresent, do you remember what "whateverthenameofpackage.deb" really was?12:04
St0n3-C0lLinuxJones: how do I force any software to install without checking depencies ?12:04
rempresentyeah12:04
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theinegrout_, are you sure you have the same username on both machines?12:05
St0n3-C0ldependencies*12:05
rempresentdcraven: ndiswrapper-source_1.1-1_i386.deb12:05
Dr_Jekyllgrout_: ssh grout@69.173.176.9412:05
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LinuxJonesSt0n3-C0l, ohh that's bad :)12:06
Dr_Jekyllor whatever username u need12:06
St0n3-C0lLinuxJones: curl3 requires by yast2-core but version 1.2.x something is already installed which is newer than the required one :P12:06
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dcravenrempresent, then you probably still need to compile it then. Hold up.12:06
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CarlKapt-get install kernel-source says "Note, selecting kernel-source-2.4.27 instead of kernel-source" even though I am on the defalt of Linux snubby 2.6.10-5-386 - does this make any sense?12:07
dcravenrempresent, what is the output of the command "uname -r"?12:07
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rempresentdcraven:  2.6.10-5-38612:07
St0n3-C0lhah12:07
grout_how can i choose which machine i wanna ssh into?12:08
theineCarlK, try apt-get install linux-source...12:08
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dcravenrempresent, check that you have a directory called /usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.1 as well.. I'm guessing that's what that .deb package did.12:08
theinegrout_, you specify the ip of that machine?12:08
rempresentdcraven:  nope12:08
grout_there both on the same local network12:09
theinegrout_, what's your username on the box you want to ssh into?12:09
grout_grout12:09
rempresentdcraven: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper12:09
rempresent/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko12:09
Dr_Jekyllgrout_: every machine has a unique IP number12:09
Dr_Jekyllso use it12:09
grout_yea i know12:09
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rempresentdcraven:  those are the two places when i do the "locate" command12:09
grout_but do i put in two ips?12:09
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grout_like ssh 173.176.94 192.168.1.112:09
CarlKtheine - thats better - it took me to linux-source-2.6.1012:09
theinegrout_, then try 'ssh grout@69.173.176.94' or whatever local ip the other machine has12:09
|QuaD-UBUNTU WAS ON VERONICA MARS LAST NIGHT!!!12:10
rempresentwhat is veronica mars?12:10
Dr_Jekyllgrout_: 2 ips? what do you want to do?12:10
|QuaD-rempresent: a tvshow12:10
dcravenrempresent, oh... I think one of those is the Ubuntu default. Maybe we should try that first. I had to compile my own though.12:10
rempresent|QuaD=: nice12:10
rempresentalright...12:10
rempresentdcraven:  so what do i do know12:10
dcravenrempresent, install the ndiswrapper-utils package.12:11
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dcravenrempresent, via apt.12:11
St0n3-C0lanyway to force software ?12:11
rempresentdcraven: done12:11
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grout_whats the command to see disk space?12:11
theinegrout_, df -h12:12
dcravenrempresent, now try "ndiswrapper -i /path/to/windowsdriver.inf".12:12
grout_thanks12:12
Dr_Jekyllfar to much chattering in here, i part for the night, you guys would fill my logs too fast =) -- gnite12:12
grout_whats df stand fore?12:12
grout_for12:12
chris_dgrout_: disk free12:12
HrdwrBoB DiskFree12:12
theinegrout_, no idea :)12:12
arturo_Alguien habla Espaol??12:12
theineHrdwrBoB, ah12:12
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lycanyo hablo espaol12:12
arturo_no pos chido12:12
arturo_Soy David wey.12:12
topyliarturo_: #ubuntu-es12:12
BackSlaSh83supposing that i have one among gconfd-2, gam_server, gnome-vfs-daemon,bonobo-activation stalling and not letting me load gnome, any idea on qhat should i do?12:12
lycanahhhhh12:12
lycanjajajajaja12:13
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dcravenrempresent, is it by chance the bcmwl5 driver?12:13
rempresentdcraven:  uhh .. this happened12:13
lycany ese nombre12:13
rempresentdcraven: root@rempresent:~ # ndiswrapper -i /media/cdrom1/Driver/bcmwl5.inf12:13
rempresentls: /etc/ndiswrapper: No such file or directory12:13
rempresentInstalling bcmwl512:13
rempresentForcing parameter RadioState|0 to RadioState|112:13
lycanes del mallami?12:13
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CugaHey is anybody here running Hoary with a 6600GT nvidia video card?12:14
arturo_De buen apuro salimos wey.12:14
arturo_ni quien nos oriente en algo aqui12:14
dcravenrempresent, good. Now do a "modprobe ndiswrapper". You should get no output.12:14
rempresentdcraven: that is the driver though12:14
rempresentok12:14
lycaneso si12:14
CugaI can't use anything that uses GL for more then 5 secs then the system locks up12:14
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dcravenrempresent, the good news is that that is the same driver I'm using right now, so it does work. I compiled my own ndiswrapper though.12:14
rempresentdcraven:  i did that there was no output, so i am guessing that i can use it12:14
arturo_Busquemos una sala en espaol12:15
lycan@find belinda12:15
dcravenrempresent, do a "ndiswrapper -l" to see if all is well.12:15
rempresentalright, how can i test it out...12:15
rempresentalright12:15
lycanpues haber en donde es12:15
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rempresentInstalled ndis drivers:12:15
rempresentbcmwl5  driver present, hardware present12:15
dcravenrempresent, assuming all is well, do an "ndiswrapper -m" to make it load on its own when you reboot.12:15
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dcravenrempresent, looks good so far. You should be able to use it.12:16
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MajestiKHi, I'm trying to get a problem with libc.so.6 fixed, and I found a bugzilla entry that seems to show that it's been fixed, and commited already https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=26 specifically "Fixed in glibc -20ubuntu12 upload." is there anything I need to do to get access to the fix?12:16
rempresentdcraven: alright thanks a ton12:16
neighborleeubuntu hoary uses which reiserfs ..3.5 or 3.6 ?12:16
dcravenrempresent, no problem. Good luck.12:16
rempresentyeah12:16
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CarlKapt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 - that just leaves me with linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2 ?12:17
CarlKI wonder what the point of that is..12:18
dcravenCarlK, you ask for source, you get source :)12:18
rempresentdcraven:  what type of application can i use to monitor network activity through my router...12:18
rempresent.. or to look for other APs12:18
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St0n3-C0lAnyway to force the software in Synaptic to install it without checking dependencies ?12:19
SpaceNutshi12:19
twallshi12:19
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SpaceNutsWaht is meant with, "Failed to stat file ..."12:19
dcravenrempresent, the netapplet applet will list APs, so will "iwlist wlan0 scan" I think.12:19
rempresentdcraven:  like the icon in windows that shows you the APs availiable and status12:19
CarlK700mb drive is running out of space... what is the apt command to delete it's cache?12:19
SpaceNutsWhat does the word "stat" mean12:19
dcravenrempresent, as for traffic monitoring, I dunno. I'm sure there are plenty.12:19
mindmedicCarlK, man apt-get12:19
CylanesHi there.12:19
dcravenrempresent, I'm not familiar with Windows.12:19
mindmedicread through12:19
mindmedicand then type apt-get clean12:20
SpaceNutsCarlK: apt-cache clear         I beleieve12:20
SpaceNutsCarlK: or clean12:20
rempresentdcraven:  how to i install the netapplet applet12:20
mindmedicdunno :)12:20
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dcravenrempresent, others in here are familiar with it though.12:20
SpaceNutsCarlK: apt-cache --help|grep clea12:20
SiRrUshello12:20
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dcravenrempresent, apt-get install netapplet?12:20
CarlKI hope so... got to race tar for space12:20
MajestiKIs there a bleeding edge apt source, like debian's unstable?12:20
rempresentdcraven:  thanks!12:20
SpaceNutsWhat is meant with, "Failed to stat file ..."? What does the word "stat" mean?12:21
thoreauputicCarlK: apt-get clean12:21
theineCarlK, sudo apt-get clean12:21
gasmanHi all.  I am repackaging my kernel, I was wondering if anyone had a seconed to help me a bit12:21
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theineMajestiK, there'll soon be breezy (if not already...)12:21
CarlKbreezy went up in the last 24 hours12:22
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MajestiKtheine: s/hoary/breezy/g12:22
AmaranthCarlK: No packages for breezy yet.12:22
theineMajestiK, yep12:22
SpaceNutsI am translating Gnomebaker, can anyone give me the meaning of the word Stat ??12:22
AmaranthIt exists in spirit, but it isn't there. :P12:22
nebyetias in statistic?12:22
SpaceNutswell that I don't know12:22
SpaceNutsit says Failed to stat file12:23
MajestiKHmm.. breezy only has one package different then hoary right now :)12:23
SeamusLPTranslating gnomebaker?  I think they need to work on a couple of basic things first12:23
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SpaceNutsSeamusLP: well ok, just translating some stuff with Rosetta12:23
SeamusLPLike for example, burning dvd iso's.  Copying dvds.12:23
theineMajestiK, well, as CarlK said, it's been started within the last 24 hours12:23
SiRrUsSpaceNuts i think it means that the file is not on the server12:23
An0atorwhich good dvd/cd cooking application (GUI) do you recommend?12:23
SpaceNutsSirrus: that the file cannot be found12:24
theineMajestiK, I'm sure in a week there'll be plenty of new packages...12:24
SeamusLPoh wait, I'm thinking graveman12:24
SeamusLPYeah gnomebaker is the good one.12:24
gaioAn0ator, graveman12:24
SpaceNutsthx for your help12:24
MajestiKtheine: yeah.. not a surprise then :)  I'm hunting for a newer libc6 version, hopefully one that fixes this problem I have with Matlab12:24
An0atorgaio: thx12:24
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CugaDoes anybody here have a working 6600GT nvidia video card with ubuntu ?12:24
gaioAn0ator, nautilus itself12:24
theineMajestiK, wouldn't you rather need an older libc6 for Matlab?12:24
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MajestiKtheine: the bug(s) I found seem to think that a newer one has a patch to fix the problems..12:25
rempresentdcraven:  i have a problem, my wlan0 isn't configured, that is what it is saing12:25
MajestiKgentoo, debian, and ubuntu all have the exact same problem12:25
theineMajestiK, i see12:25
rempresentdcraven:  *saying12:25
MajestiKtheine: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2612:25
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MajestiK(And I'm having troubles with Schrodinger's Maestro as well.. but it's the same problem)12:26
rempresentdcraven:  but in my connecton properties, i am getting two options for configuring the internet, it is eth0 and lo12:26
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MajestiKI only have one fix now, and it's totally unacceptable.. RedHat12:26
An0atorwhat about a gui frontend for creating iptables rulesets, plus defining QoS if possible?12:26
SeamusLPMajestiK, I suppose upgrading libc would break things?12:26
theineMajestiK, "xmms: does not start without libesd0 installed"?12:27
theineMajestiK, that one?12:27
Verwilstman, ubuntu is sweet :$12:27
MajestiKtheine: it ends up being a libc problem12:27
MajestiKSeamusLP: it might break things.. which is why it's not in hoary (yet)12:28
SeamusLPMajestIk I think you'd have to get breezy for that12:28
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MajestiKSeamusLP: yeah, which means I get to wait till breezy actually has packages seperate from hoary.. Oh well, users get to wait :)12:29
theineMajestiK, hmm, it says that it's fixed in -20ubuntu12, and i have -20ubuntu13 under hoary...12:30
MajestiKtheine: where did you get that detail on the version for libc?12:31
theineMajestiK, synaptic12:31
Feuganhi all, The following error is what is stopping my wireless card from working on hoary: localhost kernel: Polling for an IRQ FAILED with 0, cmd_status 0, irqs_active 1.  Does anyone know what this error is about?12:31
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whiteknightFeugan, what is your wireless card?12:32
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MajestiKtheine: I'm running 20ubuntu13 as well.. maybe time to submit a new bug :)12:32
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FeuganThe card works on Mandrake12:33
Feuganchipset : acx10012:33
theineMajestiK, what's the error message you're getting when you try to run matlab12:33
SeamusLPFeugan:  Did it work during the install?12:33
Feuganactually acx11112:33
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neighborleeubuntu hoary uses which reiserfs ..3.5 or 3.6 ?12:34
MajestiKtheine: http://pastebin.ca/950512:34
FeuganNo, but I did not expect it to. The drivers are still in development. But the drivers do work12:34
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whiteknightFeugan, where are you getting the drivers from? http://acx100.sourceforge.net/12:35
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SeamusLPFeugan: you wouldn't happen to be using a dell laptop would you?12:35
theineMajestiK, those syntax errors are pretty weird already, aren't they?12:35
Feuganyes, that's it12:35
An0atorthe eternal question: ext3, reiser4, xfs, jfs? best for most scenarios?12:35
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topyliAn0ator: ext312:35
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FeuganSeamusLP: No PC12:36
MajestiKtheine: that's probably just the matlab startup script.. the last line is the important one.. I should read before pasting :)12:36
whiteknightFeugan, seen this? http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-50228.html12:36
whiteknightFeugan, seems like someone else has had the same problem12:36
theineMajestiK, the last line looks pretty complicated...12:37
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Feuganah, give me a sec i'll take a look12:37
whiteknightFeugan, actually isn't that useful :)12:37
whiteknightFeugan, are you using the same driver as in mandrake? and are you compiling it yourself from source?12:38
whiteknightFeugan, finally what exactly is your card?12:38
MajestiKtheine: any ideas? or submit bug?12:39
Plukyay just got wmv9 working on amd64 with a 32bit chroot :)12:39
Plukchrooting is nice12:39
theineMajestiK, have a look at this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2004/10/msg00026.html12:39
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MajestiKtheine: I think I found that one a couple times in the last few hours :)  shouldn't that be available now then?  It was Oct/04, aka 6 months ago..12:40
Feuganwhiteknight: I'm compiling myself, no problems there, I can't tell exactly what the card is because a company called Mecer put their branding on the card and pretend that they made it. It's a 802.11g12:41
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whiteknightFeugan, from my research it seems that axc111 is recently supported, have you tried ndiswrapper12:41
whiteknightFeugan, it usually works wonders12:41
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theineMajestiK, I'd suggest to edit the Matlab script and extract the version number by other means12:41
Feuganwhiteknight: oops i'm not using exactly the same driver as in mandrake just a later version. Ok I will try same version :-)12:41
whiteknightFeugan, yeah thats a good idea, best not to change things!12:42
Feuganndiswrapper :-(12:42
MajestiKtheine: actually, matlab isn't my biggest issue, another tool is showing the same thing, but failing worse on it.. (Schrodinger Maestro)12:42
whiteknightFeugan, really?12:42
theineMajestiK, how much worse?12:43
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Feuganwhiteknight: I hate ndiswrapper :-)12:43
MajestiKtheine: dies trying to use it.. didn't dig much, and as long as I'm getting that error from it, support won't talk to me, since I'm not running DedRat12:44
whiteknightFeugan, okay, i agree that it is nothing like a native driver, however it does help a lot of people12:44
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theineMajestiK, but just because i'm curious... try replacing line 224 in the matlab script with:12:44
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theineMajestiK, ver="2.3.2"12:45
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chasei need an mp3 encoder so i can get some music on the IPod anyone know a app that does it?12:45
theineMajestiK, instead of ver=`/lib/libc.so.6 | head -1 | sed -e "s/^[^0-9] *//" -e "s/[ ,] .*$//"`12:45
dazedboredom :(12:45
Feuganwhitekight: :-) Ok got try that same ver. Thanks for your help!12:45
kangpehi take it there is no way to theme ur gtk apps - when running KDE (kubuntu)12:45
kangpeh?12:45
whiteknightFeugan, no worries, hope it works12:46
Quest-MasterWhat's the best file manager for XFCE besides XFFM (which plainly is pretty bad)?12:46
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smoucherox-filer, Quest-Master !12:47
MajestiKtheine: no can do.. looks like it's hardcoded in to the binaries12:47
ReblendedI'm booted to LIVE CD hoary... what's the command or where do I go to get my wireless adaptor to get recognized?12:47
whiteknightReblended, whats the card?12:47
Plukrox is great12:47
theineMajestiK, NANO/tools/matlab_r14_s2/bin/scripts/.matlab7rc.sh is hardcoded??12:47
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Reblendedwhiteknight, it's a speedbooster G12:47
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ReblendedI can get you the model.. hang on12:48
MajestiKprg3@nanoxeon02:/NANO/tools/matlab_r14_s2/bin/scripts$ grep libc ??*12:48
MajestiKprg3@nanoxeon02:/NANO/tools/matlab_r14_s2/bin/scripts$12:48
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dazedReblended: your going to need to get drivers for your model and use ndiswrapper to install it12:48
theineMajestiK, too bad...12:48
MajestiKyeah12:48
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dazedReblended: its not going to be too good on livecd since its not going to remember once you reboot12:48
theineMajestiK, I think you really should submit a bug report and see what people say to this12:49
yyc747any idea what might fix "The failing step is: install base system"?  I'm on a ppc install, and it's happening12:49
MajestiKtheine: K, thanks!12:49
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Reblendeddazed, good. I don't care if it has amnesia... I want to make sure it works. =] 12:50
PacoBCNany snort expert/user in the room?12:50
Quest-Mastersmouche: is it really good?12:50
Reblendedwhiteknight, model is broadcom bcm430612:51
whiteknightReblended, my favourite :) yeah it'll work, done it personally many years ago!12:51
Reblendedwhiteknight, what are the steps! =D12:51
whiteknightReblended, gonna need ndiswrapper as suggested already by dazed12:51
dazedReblended: well i have the same model...and i can tell you it does work lol12:51
Reblendedcool12:52
Reblendeddazed, I have a thumb drive that I can use to download to and such12:52
dazedReblended:  and there is a wiki on exactly how to do it step by step by step its actually a lil complicated process12:52
whiteknightReblended, gonna struggle on a live cd though12:52
whiteknightReblended, i'm not even sure that the live cd has ndiswrapper included12:52
Reblendedk12:52
Reblendedwiki url? dazed12:52
dazedlet me look real quick12:52
kevmanYou start gnome with gnome-session , right?12:52
Reblendedty dazed12:52
Reblendedand ty whiteknight12:53
dazedReblended: if the wiki would ever load lol12:53
Reblendedwhiteknight, I'd like to use the hoary install cd to partition this XP machine... I've been told to use partition magic, et al... is it possible with just the install cd?12:53
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Reblendedlol dazed12:53
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twallsello12:54
Reblendeddazed, http://oriol.joor.net/blog-dev/?itemid=1579 ?12:54
Reblendeddazed, it's trying to load.. is it this one? =D12:54
dazedReblended: actually its not possible with just install cd thats how i lost my xp and only boot linux now but partion magic works like a pro12:54
dazedReblended: one sec im almost there lol12:54
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ReblendedOh dazed  there is a trialware version/12:54
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Reblendedsry that url was some unknown language, dazed12:55
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whiteknightReblended, yeah like dazed says, though i wouldn't have a clue cause i use a ppc12:55
dazedReblended: i know the trialware is a pita but there are some ways around it ^-12:55
MMondHello, I've an odd question. If anyone is familiar with this: some people start a machine with a live cd such as knoppix in it . . . browser to the sam file to get the hashes and change the hashes . . . has anyone tried it on ubuntu?12:55
dazedjeeze something must be hoggin my bw cuz no pages are loading right now :(12:55
Reblendedeww dazed12:56
GhostFreemanany good audio composing programs for Linux12:56
Reblendedoh yes, GhostFreeman !!!12:56
Reblendedflowergarden is it? GhostFreeman12:56
ReblendedGhostFreeman,  http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/  !!!12:57
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ReblendedGhostFreeman,  http://www.linuxmusician.com/  http://bloodshed.net/wired/12:57
ReblendedEnjoy, GhostFreeman12:57
whiteknightReblended, the files you are going to need are here12:57
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whiteknightReblended, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/misc/ndiswrapper-utils12:57
Reblendedtyvm whiteknight12:58
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Reblendedwhiteknight, I'm gonna put it on my thumbdrive and give it a whirl =D12:58
twallshmm12:58
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whiteknightReblended, also you are going to need your windows driver12:58
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Reblendedright-o... will this work? http://oriol.joor.net/blog-dev/?itemid=1579  FIND=the Gz file  whiteknight12:59
gaioboys, how many GB should I need for 1st installation and essential packet for hoary?12:59
dazedyueah he got it Reblended sorry i took so long i gotta work on this bandwith problem now01:00
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Reblendeddazed, just lucky, I guess, I really don't know what google will serve up =)  Try FIREHOSE off the cinerella website01:00
gaioare 5 giga enough?01:00
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Reblendeddazed, what's the ndis command to load the driver?01:01
ReblendedI have the ndis*util*.deb  < will this install?01:01
dazedhmmm its been a while01:01
GhostFreemanWhen do ya think we'll see a proper version of mplayer instead of one that comes up broken in Synaptic01:01
Reblendeddazed,  I'll open terminal  ctrl-alt F601:01
whiteknightReblended, yeah, dpkg -i package01:01
nickrudgaio, my install is 4.6 gig, 58% used01:01
holycowGhostFreeman, when you jump in and fix whats broken or hire someone to do so?01:02
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whiteknightReblended, as in package being ndiswrapper....01:02
Reblendedahh, great!  whiteknight01:02
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nickrudgaio, 4.6GB partition, that is :)01:02
dazedahh shit i forgot i only have ndiswrapper on the laptop...i couldnt tell ya01:02
Reblendedthen I'll ungz the driver and is it self explanitory from there?01:02
whiteknightReblended, yup, should be easy...01:02
whiteknightReblended, still trying to find a guide, no there is one01:03
GhostFreemanok01:03
Reblendedsweet! learning experience fun for me... , ok I'll leave this open.. logging, ty!01:03
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dazedReblended: once you load the driver it will pick up your card and there on out its pretty common sense01:03
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GhostFreemanI guess someone will need to make a xine plugin for Mozilla01:03
Reblended-logdazed, ty!  gonna go run and try it01:03
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Reblended-logbb in a bit01:03
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gaionickrud, only base packet and os ?01:03
dazedgl01:03
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djm62firefox on ubuntu hoary....is there an issue with icons in dialogues?01:04
Fast240Zhey, can someone help me out with mounting a fat32 partition in fstab with write permissions?01:04
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nickrudgaio, base install plus maybe 10-20 extra packages.01:04
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CarlKapt-get install linux-source-2.6.10, untar, cd .. make.  (no configure) will that make the same kernel I currently have?01:05
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CarlKno... *** You have not yet configured your kernel!01:05
cceliohi all01:05
nickrudgaio, the one thing I should mention is not to have synaptic keep downloaded files, your cache can get quite large.01:05
gaionickrud, tnx ;)01:05
Quest-MasterWhenever I try to play songs with Rhythmbox now01:06
Quest-MasterIt keeps on saying Error: resource not able to be opened01:06
Quest-MasterAnd a bunch of stuff like that01:06
Quest-MasterHowever01:06
Quest-MasterOther players like XMMS01:06
Quest-MasterAre able to perfectly play the same songs01:06
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Quest-MasterNo errors01:06
Quest-Master>_<01:06
Fast240Zanyone know anything about nautilus?01:07
dazedwhats the problem Fast240Z01:07
CarlKkernel is untared.. make is running.. I have 44meg free after apt-get clean - anything else I can ditch?01:08
crimsunblahrus: pong01:08
Fast240Zwell, I don't like how big the icons are, and after browsing through Configuration Editor, I found a string that allowed me to change the icon zooming01:09
mkdehi all, does anyone know about evolution and gpg? I'm trying to find out how to import a gpg signature. Anyone know?01:09
Fast240Zand I was wondering what to type in to shrink the icons down just a little bit, instead of making them micro sized01:09
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dazed ok cool01:09
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Fast240Zoh, the string is /apps/nautilus/icon_view/default_zoom01:10
Fast240Zthat, and is there a "look and feel" section for gnome to change window behavior and such?01:12
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TycheHello01:12
djm62Quest-Master: do you have the gstreamer components installed?01:13
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nickrudfast240z, System->Preferences->File Management has zoom controls01:13
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djm62Fast240Z: System->Preferences-> gives you the gnome preferences01:13
Fast240Zokay01:14
yyc747__tell me, does hoary come with xorg?01:14
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Quest-Masterdjm62: It's been working fine for the past year01:14
mkdeFast240Z, sadly I believe that the icon zoom will also reduce the size of your desktop text01:14
mkdeFast240Z, lemme know if i'm wrong tho01:14
csjhello, what is the newest version of Ubuntu package  repository since hoary released?01:14
Fast240Zmkde: not a big deal, it's too large for me anyways01:15
csjI use hoary but cant get Acoread 7.01:15
mkdeFast240Z, me too, but when I reduced the icons, my text was too small :/01:15
djm62Quest-Master: any stray processes running?01:15
blizahim am having troubles with flashgot/aria...i right mouse click a file click flashgot link and tab over to aria and nothing is happening01:15
mkdecsj, i don't understand the question, what do you mean by version?01:16
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nickrudmkde, Fast240z, you can adjust the desktop font separately in sys>pref>fonts01:16
Fast240Zoh much better01:16
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Fast240Znow what about making all of the windows smaller/editing window behavior?01:16
CugaHas anybody heard if there is an issue with 6600GT's and Xorg and hoary's default kernel?01:16
csjmkde, I mean what in the sources.list : deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu "hoary"<- this term01:16
djm62also, just in case you installed something that conflicts with gstreamer-*01:16
TycheI'm looking to play a Movie DVD from my laptop with Ubuntu...what is the best program to do that? Will it do it natively? or do I need to start using universe, etc.01:17
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Fast240Zoh that made everything look a whole hell of a lot better01:17
Fast240Zthanks so much guys!01:17
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csjmkde, I want to use the newest package like Debian unstable, so I use "hoary"?01:17
csjin sources.list01:18
mkdecsj, yep01:18
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mkdecsj, ubuntu does not have an unstable version atm01:18
djm62Tyche: it won't do it natively for potential legal reasons...mplayer from extra sources does it fine for me01:18
mkdemplayer from universe for me :)01:18
blizahanyone using flashgot and aria?01:18
mkdeplus libdvdcss2 from marillat01:18
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blizahdo i need to set up aria in any way?01:19
Tychedjm62, thank you....would that be marillat (sp?)01:19
djm62yeah01:19
crimsunmkde: (multiverse?)01:19
mkdecrimsun, libdvdcss2 is in multiverse?01:19
crimsunmkde: < mkde> mplayer from universe for me :)01:19
djm62really decreases one's respect for the law...01:19
mkdeoh yeah sorry01:19
csjmkde, hmm, thanks, but I feel strange that the packages in hoary are older in Debian unstable? like fontconfig and Acroread,etc.01:19
PedroCCmkde, i didnt find mplayer on universe01:19
mkdePedroCC, see crimsun's correction above01:20
mkdesorry01:20
mkdecsj, why? hoary is a stable OS01:20
CarlKapt-get install linux-source-2.6.10, untar, cd .. make menuconfig; "...must install ncurses-devel..." E: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel01:20
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crimsuncsj: that's because those packages are from a _snapshot_01:20
Reblended-logwhiteknight, I need to know how to copy paste... that .deb package was a long type =p01:20
CarlKso what do I need inorder to configure a kernel?01:20
crimsunCarlK: install libncurses-dev01:20
Reblended-logwhiteknight, Ok.. I got ndis installed... how do I use it to install the driver?01:20
dazedReblended-log: well you can use tabbing just hit tab when u have a portion of the deb package typed int01:20
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Reblended-logOhhh cool ty dazed01:21
CarlKcrimsun - thanks... is that " must install" message a ubuntu thing?01:21
Reblended-logdazed, was pretty painless tho01:21
crimsunCarlK: that's an 'install kernel-package' thing01:21
dazedReblended-log: thats good :)01:21
csjcrimsun, I dont understand clearly, so I cant get acroread 7 ? or I should add some line in sources.list?01:21
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whiteknightReblended-log, the command is ndiswrapper -i *.inf01:21
CarlKIll let someone (cj)in buzilla land figure it out ;)01:21
Reblended-logtyvm! whiteknight01:21
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whiteknightReblended-log, no worries01:22
Reblended-loggonna go do this now ty whiteknight and da01:22
dazedi wish someone would fix my problem :(01:22
crimsuncsj: you can. Use debian-marillat.01:22
whiteknightdazed, whats your problem :)01:22
Reblended-logdazed, did you check out firehose? =] 01:22
csjcrimsun, ok, thanks :)01:22
whiteknightReblended-log, after that command01:22
dazedwhiteknight: lol ill link you to my post...i dont think its fixable01:22
dazedReblended-log: nah whats the link?01:22
whiteknightReblended-log, you have to do sudo modprobe ndiswrapper01:22
Reblended-logwhiteknight, yes?  ty will do01:23
Reblended-logdazed, sec01:23
dazedwhiteknight: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2672101:23
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Reblended-logslow down there pardner =p  http://heroinewarrior.com/firehose.php3  dazed01:24
whiteknightdazed, urgh sounds like one of those really annoying problems01:24
dazedwhiteknight: yeah tell me about it01:24
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whiteknightdazed, have you tried the suggested solution, apm and such?01:24
zerokarmalefti'm not sure i like the hoary's behavior of links in third-party applications ALWAYS opening a new instance of firefox01:24
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Neil3hey folks is anyone else getting this happening: in Evolution, the 'New' button in the top left of the screen is constantly 'raised' in the position it would be when the mouse rolls over it01:24
femvpeople how can i disable some things that ubuntu is doing at boot time ????01:24
merlin__does anyone know where the install logs are saved after an install?01:24
dazedwhiteknight: as i replied i have noidea what that is01:24
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nickrudNeil3, that's normal. It's a special widget, not a regular button.01:25
whiteknightdazed, want me to walk you through it?01:25
whiteknightdazed, :)01:25
ctrler_i have disk access every 5 seconds, is there a way to stop that?01:25
crimsundazed: boot with "noapic"01:25
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Neil3ok, i just notice it happening when i use the clearlooks or human themes, but not with others, nickrud01:25
dazedwhiteknight, uhmm sure let me get on xchat so i can actually read..01:25
whiteknightdazed, damn crimsun got ahead of me :)01:26
dazedcrimsun: how can i boot with noapic without doing it through grub.lst01:26
blizahanyone have aria and flashgot working?01:26
dazedbrb 3 seconds01:26
htaccesswhy does ubuntu use postfix? whats wrong with exim4? its at least as easy to configure as postfix, afaik debain is not planing to replace exim with postfix as the default mta so why the choice by ubuntu?01:26
nickrudNeil3, yeah, appearances: that's a theme thing :)01:26
femvpeople help me out .. i need to disable pcmcia recognizon at startup01:27
merlin__htaccess: they said they wanted an MTA that was as small and secure as possible01:27
merlin__I still prefer exim4 though01:27
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crimsundazed|: when your computer gets to the grub boot prompt, press 'e' and add noapic to the end, then press enter and press b01:27
lamonthtaccess: could have something to do with me being heavily involved...01:27
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lamontdunno01:27
dazed|alrgith back so would i have to enter noapic in grub.lst?01:28
htaccessyea the old postfix is modular so its goto be more secure argument nevermind that exim has an excellent security record01:28
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crimsunlamont: never would have guessed since your the postfix maintainer ;)01:28
crimsunyou're01:28
foobarhas anybody been able to successfully install dvd::rip in ubuntu or kubuntu??01:28
merlin__So no one knows where the ubuntu install logs go? Do they get lost after the install?01:28
dazed|crimsun thanks ill brb and give it a shot01:28
djm62femv: dirty way.../etc/init.d/pcmcia goes elsewhere01:28
PedroCCanywone know how i play mpg on totem ?01:28
cfh_devI just installed Ubuntu 5.04 but I don't remember it asking me to set the root password.  Is there a default password for root?01:28
lamonthtaccess: it was more one of 'if I have to maintain it, I'd rather maintain postfix',  and noone else had a strong opinion01:28
HrdwrBoBcfh_dev: no01:28
HrdwrBoBcfh_dev: you can use 'sudo' to run things as root01:28
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HrdwrBoByou enter your password01:28
htaccesslamont: i assume its easy to subsitiute exim4?01:29
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cfh_devSo is there no way to su to root?01:29
ResNet|Ericcfh_dev: sudo su :)01:29
cfh_devahh, okay.01:29
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ctrler_i have disk access every 5 seconds, is there a way to stop that? thank u...01:29
ResNet|Ericcfh_dev: gives you # prompt IIRC01:29
sdogihuh, having hard time here to upgrade from warty to hoary01:29
lamonthtaccess: apt-get install exim4, and say 'lalalala' when it tells you that it's removing ubuntu-base01:29
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ResNet|EricWhat kernel version is the latest ubuntu using?01:29
crimsunResNet|Eric: it's better to suggest sudo -s01:30
femvdjm62 you mean delete that file ?01:30
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crimsunResNet|Eric: 2.6.10 + lots of patches from .11.x01:30
djm62femv: no!01:30
pvoceI think its 2.6.1001:30
cfh_devSorry to sound so ignorant but I'm used to Debian.01:30
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stashi friends!01:30
cfh_devSo instead of su'ing to do something, I use sudo instead.  Is that correct?01:30
nickrudlamont: couldn't it be postfix | exim in ubuntu-base?01:30
stasI JUST installed ubuntu!01:30
ResNet|Ericcrimsun: thanks for the kernel info...whats sudo -s?01:30
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foobarcfh_dev, don't feel bad..i am used to gentoo..this is a totaly new world to me :)01:30
stasbut I don't know the root password01:30
cfh_devstas: me, too!01:30
stasand can't really do anything :((01:31
pvocecfh_dev: yeppers. ans its a lot easier to work with01:31
lamontnickrud: actually, the plan is to pull postfix from ubuntu-base in breezy01:31
femvdjm62 gedit is giving me nothing when trying to open it01:31
lamontthat's right... _NO_ mta in base01:31
cfh_devstas: use sudo instead of su01:31
DazeD||laptopso it should read 'ro quite splash noapic'01:31
cfh_devstas: I just asked the same question01:31
crimsunResNet|Eric: it's what sudo su does, but it's the recommended way01:31
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pvoceI came over from mandrake (mantiva?)01:31
ResNet|Ericcrimsun: ok, i'll look it up01:31
DazeD||laptopcrimsun: ^?01:31
htaccesslamont: removing ubuntu-base doesnt sound too good01:31
Diablo-D3hey guys01:31
staslol01:31
foobarnobody get dvd::rip to install??01:31
blizahanyone else having problems with aria and flashgot?01:31
stassudo no worky either01:31
nickrudlamont: thanks for the info.01:31
Diablo-D3can anyone verify hoary's small memory installer working?01:31
stas;p01:31
lamonthtaccess: is meta package01:31
crimsunDazeD||laptop: yes01:31
lamontno code01:31
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cfh_devpvoce, foobar: thanks for the info on sudo.01:31
stassudo asks for a password01:32
pvocecfh_dev: np01:32
DazeD||laptopok lets hope this doesnt lock up on me!! what does noapic actually do?01:32
djm62femv: ah...it is debian.  /etc/rc2.d has a link in it called S20pcmcia01:32
zerokarmaleftlamont, what about debconf and anacron messages, etc.?01:32
djm62femv: if you want no pcmcia at startup, remove the link01:32
pvoceHas anyone else started getting the permisions denied /dev/lp0" after changes?01:32
zerokarmaleftlamont, where will those go without an mta01:32
lamontzerokarmaleft: that's the discussion item./01:32
ctrler_DazeD||laptop, doesnt write access times in files...01:33
stas:| so how can I get a root prompt01:33
crimsunDazeD||laptop: disables one of the programmable interrupt controllers. It's a known workaround for buggy hardware. It's also in the Nvidia README.01:33
htaccessi guess it doenst matter, i dont anticipate using ubuntu as a server as sarge is just round the corner and all that :)01:33
stasright after installation?01:33
lamontzerokarmaleft: today they go in roots mailbox, and never get read01:33
djm62femv: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S20pcmcia01:33
DazeD||laptopgood to know thanks guys01:33
crimsunctrler_: no, that's noatime, which is a filesystem mount option01:33
zerokarmaleftheh, i read them!01:33
ctrler_ops01:33
ctrler_sorry01:33
femvdjm62 , rm is ?01:33
pvoceIve made sure the dev file was owned by users01:33
lamontstas: from the gui, go to applications -> system tools -> root terminal, and type in _your_ password at the prompt01:33
DazeD||laptopi hope that solves it ... be a great stress reliever01:33
djm62femv: rm is remove01:33
pvoceeven made sure lpr was added to lp group01:33
htaccesslamont: so it doesnt actualy uninstall anything?01:33
whiteknightDazeD||laptop, its one of those things that will take ages to decide if it worked01:33
cfh_devstas: give sudo your regular user password01:33
stasah :))01:34
stasthanks!01:34
whiteknightDazeD||laptop, you won't notice that it isn't crashing! :)01:34
DazeD||laptopwhiteknight, i know...everytime i get a "fix" i have to wait atleast a day to see if it worked or not01:34
DazeD||laptoplol01:34
cfh_devstas: I'm right there with you.  I'm having to switch screens between boxes to try things then query the room for answers.01:34
femvdjm62, if i do this... im going to be able to use a pcmcia further ?01:34
DazeD||laptopand ill go about 12 hours and think i fixed it...then BOOM01:34
ctrler_is there a way to se what are the applications writing to disk?01:34
djm62femv: yes, it just won't happen at startup01:34
whiteknightDazeD||laptop, hehe01:34
lamonthtaccess: it could cause you pain on the next dist-upgrade, but otherwise is fine01:34
DazeD||laptopim just glad i got my laptop sittin next to me :)01:35
femvcan i back up the file before doing it ?01:35
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Reblended-logwhiteknight, I type in sudo ndiswrapper -i *.ini... it can't find ndiswrapper... am I missing something?01:35
nickrudfemv, always back up the file before doing *anything*01:35
PedroCCwow, totem + xine works smooth...01:35
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DazeD||laptopthats awkward...did u install the package correctly?01:36
stasheh :)01:36
djm62femv: to undo the change, you'd do 'sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/pcmcia /etc/rc2.d/S20pcmcia'01:36
whiteknightReblended-log, you've installed ndiswrapper-utils?01:36
stascan I restart X Server01:36
staswithout killing X-Chat?01:36
DazeD||laptopdid u dl ndiswrapper to ur thumb drive?01:36
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dottedquadok, someone was telling me that ubuntu was built on debian... but someone told me it's not.. So, which one is it?01:36
djm62femv: it doesn't really make sense to back up a link...it only points to a file01:36
lamontstas: only if you run xchat on a different x server.. :-)  (that's a no)01:36
crimsundottedquad: the former01:36
stashehe ok01:36
DazeD||laptopstas no01:36
hyphenateddottedquad: it's based on debian01:36
Xeon3Ddebian.. ICKKKK01:37
nickrudwhoop's, didn't read correctly, but boy did that hit my disaster button!01:37
dottedquadalright01:37
dottedquadso you still use apt?01:37
dottedquadto download and install packages?01:37
Reblended-logwhiteknight, yes01:37
hyphenatedyes01:37
crimsundottedquad: or something that uses libapt, yes01:37
Reblended-logthe whole .deb file  whiteknight01:37
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stasalright!01:37
stas:))))01:37
whiteknightReblended-log, hmmmm01:37
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Reblended-logam I supposed to type the command from within the directory where ndis is? whiteknight01:38
engieHi. Where can I get a torrent for the dvd of hoary?01:38
stasit took me 3 hours yesterday to get my monitor working at normal refresh rates, using ubuntu's livecd01:38
djm62femv: if you remove the link, the file stays, and you can manually start pcmcia with 'sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia start'01:38
stasnow it's all good :)))01:38
DazeD||laptophow do i kill a nick thats registered to me thats in due to iregular close?01:38
whiteknightReblended-log, no, the command should be system wide01:38
Reblended-logok.. hmm I'll try installing ndis utils again... I don't have to uninstall first I hope?  whiteknight01:39
thoreauputicDazeD||laptop: /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <password>01:39
femvdjm62 , ill give it a try im going to reboot and see what happens... thx a lot01:39
whiteknightReblended-log, no it should overwrite01:39
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Reblended-logbrb01:39
DazeD||laptopthanks thoreauputic01:39
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queuetueThe complete lack of updates makes me uneasy. :)01:39
queuetueI've been tracking hoary for a month, and there was *always* an update waiting. :)01:40
zerokarmaleftqueuetue, i know what you mean01:40
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DazeD|im feeling good about this noapic business01:40
djm62I hope that made sense 0_001:40
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crimsunqueuetue: there will not be further updates to Hoary for some time _unless_ they're security-related or major, unintrusive fixes.01:40
zerokarmaleftqueuetue, strange to update xorg like 3 times in a week and a half and now...calm01:40
DazeD|queuetue, lol i know how that is01:41
shinzuihi01:41
queuetuemajor + unintrusive is an infrequent combination. :)01:41
crimsunqueuetue: / zerokarmaleft: don't worry, this is just the calm before the storm. And what a storm it will be. Get ready for some major flux.01:41
nxterra(P4 1.8, 512 mb ram) Clean Hoary Nvidia driver (Geforce fc 5200 256mb)--- glxgears 13268 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2653.600 FPS  -- Does this suck??01:41
dhonnno its pretty good01:41
dhonni get only 60001:42
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nxterraminimized 6K01:42
queuetuecrimsun, They shoud just create an italian translation of a readme for us or something ... the quiet leaves me wanting.:)01:42
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thoreauputicnxterra: that looks rather impressive to me...01:42
queuetuecrimsun, Yu think there's flux coming in hoary, or flux in the breexy branch?01:42
nxterrathoreauputic, really--I dont know much about it--in fact I dont play games...rather gnome seems a little bit laggy...any suggestions01:43
Pluknxterra, thats decent on a 520001:43
stasis there a 'Recycle Bin' here?01:43
djm62you give people gnome 2.10 ahead of all the other distros...they want fluxbox :-/01:43
zerokarmaleftthis month's ubuntu calendar is a refreshing deviation01:43
queuetuenxterra, Your glxgears run looks better than mine:01:43
thoreauputicnxterra: well, my solution is to use fluxbox, but that isn't what you wanted to hear :)01:43
queuetuenxterra, Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7167, but01:43
queuetuethis library is version 1.0.7174. Please be sure that your kernel01:43
queuetuemodule and all NVIDIA driver files have the same driver version.01:43
queuetueSegmentation fault01:43
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DazeD|nxterra, fluxbox owns hard01:44
nxterrathoreauputic, no I can live with the lag...I tried it and I could'nt get use to it01:44
queuetueTHat's new ... looks like I have stuff to update after all. :)01:44
crimsunqueuetue: breezy.01:44
TycheWhen I add a new repository in hoary, does it show the custom ones?01:44
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djm62nxterra: use a light gtk-engine, if it is just a cpu/mem issue01:44
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DazeD|is 1159.800 fps good?01:44
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queuetuedjm62, How do you know what's a "light" engine?01:45
Reblended-logwhiteknight, OK!01:45
odysseyzerokarmaleft, it looks crap01:45
nxterradjm62, using clearlooks milk with milk 2.0 mcity01:45
crimsundjm62: if fluxbox 0.9.12 doesn't enter Sid soon, I'll work with D upstream and try to generate a -0ubuntu101:45
Reblended-logwhiteknight, I was typing what I thought was a pipe and it was an L on the desktop01:45
stashi01:45
whiteknightdoes anyone know where the ndiswrapper howto has gone to? can only find an italian version :)01:45
zerokarmaleftodyssey, eh you just want naked people :)01:45
staswhat does this error message mean?01:45
staschecking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h d oes not exist.01:45
stasPlease, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution01:45
stasor use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel01:45
stassources (default is /usr/src/linux).01:45
stasstas@spitfire:~/devices/realtek/alsa-driver-1.0.4$01:45
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Reblended-logwhiteknight, seems to have done 4 lines of "force state"01:45
odysseyzerokarmaleft, no i want something colourful01:45
djm62femv: ok?01:45
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stasI was trying to install audio drivers01:45
crimsunstas: why are you doing that?01:45
DazeD|crimsun just build ur own 9.1201:46
DazeD|i did01:46
stasand the readme.txt said to ./configure01:46
Reblended-logwhiteknight, (no worries... I got ndis to work)  where do I go to change the settings on the wireless adaptor?01:46
Reblended-logput the wep key in, etc01:46
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zerokarmaleftReblended-log, iwconfig01:46
Reblended-logthx zerokarmaleft01:46
femvdjm62, no luck.... my problem is that im having this error msg at boot : pcmcia socket0 unnable to apply power...01:46
crimsunDazeD|: no, I'd maintain the Ubuntu version. I'm far more interested in making it available in breezy/universe.01:46
crazyhorsetwo25can anyone tell me how to setup a vpn???01:47
DazeD|crimsun, ohh ok gotcah...u know by the time breezy is out 9.13 should be out01:47
crimsunstas: what's wrong with the sound drivers in default Hoary?01:47
Reblended-logzerokarmaleft, I type this in terminal?01:47
crimsunDazeD|: of course01:47
stasthey don't work at all01:47
backslash83i understood a thing: what prevents me to open gnome is gconf2...now i'm supposed to undersand how to fix....can anyone help?01:47
stasI have onboard sound with my MSI K8N Neo Platinum01:47
backslash83gconf2 is stalling /thats the prob)01:47
crimsunstas: and cat /proc/asound/cards tells you...?01:48
zerokarmaleftReblended-log, yes...sudo iwconfig wlan001:48
femvdjm62, it does appear a lot of times before starting ubuntu...01:48
DazeD|whats a good place for gkrellm themes01:48
DazeD|besides main site01:48
crimsunfreshmeat.net?01:48
djm62ah...that's lower-level than starting pcmcia services01:48
stas0 [CK8S           ] : NFORCE - NVidia CK8S01:49
stas                     NVidia CK8S with ALC850 at 0xeb001000, irq 2301:49
DazeD|they have em there01:49
DazeD|good good01:49
stas:$ that looks right01:49
nxterrano matter what theme I use when open up a window and move it around the CPU util. jumps to 70%-100% and does'nt refresh very fast01:49
whiteknightReblended-log, sorry got major lag (from my wireless card)01:49
stasbut the spdif out no worky01:49
crimsunstas: paste the output of amixer to pastebin.com01:49
whiteknightReblended-log, i think you should also be abe to use the gnome network config01:49
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crimsunstas: don't try to compile sound drivers. You would have ended up with an older, broken version.01:49
stasok hold on01:49
nxterraI googled until I cant good anymore01:49
stas:$ really they're dated 25 march 2005...01:49
stasI thought that was fairly recent01:50
nxterrais this normal for gnome?01:50
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DazeD||laptopgnome-net admin tool is great01:50
femvdjm62, any idea ?01:50
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crimsunstas: 1.0.4 is very old, over one year old01:51
shinzuii'm having a problem  installing ubuntu on one of my machines, i appreciate any help01:51
djm62femv: um...google the specific error message, maybe adjust the order of module loading, but that's a new one on me, I'm afraid01:51
dazedproblem shinzui01:51
djm62google the error message along with your model of machine...someone has probably met this ;)01:52
shinzuihttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=721301:52
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shinzuii've been making install cds evey week, and can't seem to get the installer to work01:53
stasok01:53
stascrimsun, http://pastebin.com/27097101:53
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kangpehhey01:54
kangpehi have a serious problem01:54
kangpehafter installing KDE - and the gtk2-for-qt thing - and baghira theme for kde...01:54
kangpehi tried going back to gnome01:54
crimsunstas: and which alsa device are you using?01:54
kangpehnow gnome won't start, i see gnome-panel trying to start and it just goes 'boom' boom boom - but it wont start and im pretty sure it is gnome-panel thats breakin :(01:55
propagandhishinzui: what exactly do u mean by the installer not working?01:55
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dazedanyone run irssi in here?01:55
stasCred,  how will I know?01:55
stascrimsun,   how will I know?01:55
shinzuiif u look at the bug report that i linked, it has the details01:55
shinzuiwhere it get stuck01:55
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CugaThese nvidia problems im having are really starting to annoy me :(... I figured i'd have less headaches comming from an ATI card but i guess not ...01:56
shinzuii am wondering if there's a workaround01:56
CugaCan anybody with a 6600GT help me get this working?01:56
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HrdwrBoBCuga: it should work fine01:56
HrdwrBoBwhat is the problem exactly01:56
dazeddoes anyone run irssi via term?01:57
thoreauputickangpeh: have a look at ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/X*  logs01:57
CugaHrdwrBoB: everything seems to install fine, i use the nvidia-glx driver from ubuntus archives and no errors show up in any logs, xorg or kernel01:57
HrdwrBoBdazed: yes01:57
CugaHrdwrBoB: i can start X fine, logo comes up01:57
CugaHrdwrBoB: but after about 5 secs of using any GL app, system hangs01:57
HrdwrBoBok yep01:57
HrdwrBoBouch01:57
Cugaand monitor shuts right off01:57
dazedHrdwrBoB: is there a way to get rid of the blue bars or just make them invisible like the rest of  the term?01:58
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HrdwrBoBdazed: http://www.irssi.org/?page=docs01:58
HrdwrBoB:)01:58
HrdwrBoB(yes)01:58
CugaHrdwrBoB: any ideas what I could try?01:58
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HrdwrBoBI can't remember offhand, but the doco isn't too bad01:58
CugaHrdwrBoB: i've been all over google and forums01:58
dazedHrdwrBoB: i looked there can u atleast tell me what itd be under?01:58
marcin_antwhoooa ubuntulinux has new layout01:59
kangpehim having some serious issues right now if someone could help -- i have just installed KDE, gtk2-for-qt thing, baghira theme, and so forth... i tried going back to gdm/gnome and when i did - while it was 'logging in' it started making the sound i set for the error noise... i went in tried changing the theme and then it crashed.  i couldn't do anything so i did contrl+alt+backspace - and then tried again - this time i couldnt even log in01:59
kangpeh period.  I am kind of at a deadend... and rght now im in kde but would like to get gnome working again ;)  If anyone knows of this situation, holler ;)01:59
marcin_antand they paid 1000 bucks for something like this?01:59
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stashow do I know which alsa device I am using?01:59
HrdwrBoBdazed: http://www.irssi.org/?page=docs&doc=startup-HOWTO01:59
blizahwhereis the ati control panel located?01:59
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rijadhey01:59
crimsunstas: if you're not explicitly specifying anything, then you're not using the spdif output.01:59
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HrdwrBoBCuga: what chipset on the motherboard02:00
rijadwhat does this mean; W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: Unknown error executing gpgv02:00
crimsunstas: for instance, pkill esd and try aplay -Dplug:iec958 foow.va02:00
dazedHrdwrBoB: grr thats exactly where i was lookin lol i must be missing over it oh well thanks man~02:00
crimsunstas: foo.wav, rather02:00
stasok hold on02:00
stasI only have mp3s handy02:00
blizahanyone know where fglrx-control (the ati control panel) is locatd?02:01
stasI installed that mad streamer thing though02:01
paxmasterhello there i am trying to configuring a dns server and which file should i add $TTL and SOA02:01
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HrdwrBoBdazed: no problem :)02:01
paxmasterthe problem is i am reading a howto base on redhat02:01
rijadasnyone?02:02
crimsunpaxmaster: into your zone's zonefile02:02
crimsunrijad: what were you trying to do?02:03
paxmasterwhich file example named.conf.option or named.conf.local02:03
stasok02:03
stasaplay -Dplug:iec958 worked perfectly02:03
paxmastercause i don't have /var/named02:03
rijaddownload the package files02:03
stascan I make that iec958 thing my default to play soundL02:04
stas?02:04
rijadpackage-list02:04
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crimsunstas: only if you use alsa directly. You'll have to create an ~/.asoundrc and redefine pcm.!default.02:04
stashow do I do that? :|02:04
agabuscould someone please help me setting up my compiler so its optimizes for my processor?02:04
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jazonhow do i view my boot log?02:05
Reblendedwhere do I find the gui for the wireless network settings?02:05
thoreauputicjazon: dmesg ?02:05
stascrimsun, how do I do that?02:05
bilyI'm unable to install winetools... can someone help me please?02:06
rijad:( blaa02:06
jazonthoreauputic, nope, thats not what i am looking for.  I want to view everything that was displayed on the screen from Uncompressing Kernel...... forwards - I have an error and I need to know what it exactly says02:06
dazedHrdwrBoB: i cant get the topic bar to go away02:06
dazedi set it to inactive02:06
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dazedHrdwrBoB: i got the window bar to go away but the topic bar will not go02:07
dottedquadwhat02:08
TinamooI installed ubuntu 5.04, but it stops at login screen and won't go further. is this a bug??02:08
dottedquadwhat's the command to see what is mounted?02:08
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Reblendeddazed, any idea where I can edit the wlan settings? I can iwconfig, but I"m not sure how to edit the settings... is there a program I can run?02:08
dazedreblended network-admin from your gnome system menu02:09
HrdwrBoBdazed: just run /set02:09
Reblendeddazed, hmm. I don't see wlan listed...02:09
HrdwrBoBand check all the settings02:09
dazedReblended: let me get onto gnome cuz im on fluxbox and everythings my own menu 1 sec02:10
Reblendedthx dazed02:10
dazedohhh02:10
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dazedReblended: you dont see wlan listed?02:10
dazedat all?02:10
ReblendedI do if I sudo iwconfig wlan0 dazed02:10
crimsunstas: look at alsa.opensrc.org02:11
shinzuiasking one more time, does anyone know of any workaround for  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7213  so i can install ubuntu on my new desktop machine02:11
crimsunstas: if you have further questions, ping me in here.02:11
dazedReblended: hmmm let me boot my laptop into ubu and well troubleshoot02:11
Reblendeddazed, oh, wow, ty !02:11
dazedReblended: i remember i had a time with this...cuz the person that was working with me kept forgettin a small step and id have to go back and start over haha02:11
dottedquadnvm i figured it out02:12
CugaHrdwrBoB: Can you think of anything for me to look at to fix my nvidia hanggin issue?02:12
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HrdwrBoBCuga: have you tried using the nvidia agp not agpgart?02:13
Reblendedlol dazed02:13
no0tichas linux problems with > 4GB files?02:13
Reblendeddazed, Found it!02:13
Reblendedman, there's like too many network programs dazed02:13
Reblendedsry to have you boot up... dazed02:14
thoreauputicno0tic: no - ext2 used to I think, but AFAIK ext3 is OK02:14
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dazedReblended: what was going on?02:15
dazedlol i just got on02:15
no0ticthoreauputic: I created a backup tar of about 4,3 GB and keeps appearing & disappearing into nautilus02:15
dazedconnecting to irc as we speak02:15
no0ticthoreauputic: no problems with bash02:15
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dazedReblended: no prob i like being on ubu better than windows anyway02:15
Reblendeddazed, I wasn't running the right network program... Setting wep now!02:15
Reblendedlol dazed02:15
no0ticthoreauputic: how can I feed mkisofs with this file? it rejects it without options02:15
thoreauputicno0tic: more likely a problem with nautilus, sounds like02:16
dazedthoreauputic: u use irssi correct?02:16
jazondoes anyone know how i can view my boot log?02:16
thoreauputicdazed: sometimes - xchat at the moment, but yes I use irssi too02:16
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thoreauputicno0tic: I don't know why mkisofs rejects your file, sorry02:17
dazedthoreauputic: well i tried to get rid of this topic bare (the blue one atop) i got the one at the bottom gone but the top one wont go any ideas?02:17
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thoreauputicdazed. not off the top of my head - have you looked at the themes on irssi.org ? some of them don't have the bars02:18
thoreauputicdazed, you might want to play with a few themes02:18
dazed||lapthoreauputic, do themes work when runnin in a term?02:18
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thoreauputicdazed||lap: of course :)02:19
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thoreauputicdazed||lap: they aren't GUI themes - just colour schemes etc02:19
dazed||lapthoreauputic, thats neat i didnt know thought it was only for gui version thanks for info :)02:19
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dazed||lapgotcah02:19
dazed||lapgood to know02:20
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thoreauputicdazed||lap: there are lots of them - and screen shots02:20
Reblendeddazed, agreed.. much better.. I just have to know the right commands that are obvious to old users...02:20
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Reblendeddazed, for instance.. I was like, I use DHCP... uhh, oh! there is the option lol02:20
dazed||lapthoreauputic, i see i see02:20
dazed||lapReblended, i know how it is lol :)02:20
no0tichow can I create a file large as a dvd image to create into it an ext3 fs?02:20
Reblendeddazed||lap, says active now.. hmm can't get on the net?02:21
dazed||lap...02:21
dazed||laphmm02:21
dazed||lapare u seeing activity in ur net monitors?02:21
Reblendeddazed||lap, wlan0 is the default gateway02:21
ReblendedI think it's just the loopback02:21
Reblendedno new icons tho in the tray02:22
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dazed||laphmmm...02:22
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Reblendedit has activated, good sign02:22
kangpehok i fixed my problem.02:23
dazed||lapu have netid correct...i assume ur using wepkey and thats correct too and ur using DHCP right?02:23
kangpehgtk2 qt engine has some kind of a problem02:23
Reblendedwep dhcp, I try to ping the router, nothing, dazed||lap02:23
Reblendeddazed||lap ping 192.168.1.1 nada02:24
dazed||laphmm when i got to your point i was working....i assume your in a dead spot you close to the router?02:24
Reblendeddazed||lap I'm in a spot that has perfect connectivity...02:24
Reblendeddazed||lap  in netstat: active net services.. tcp 127.0.0.1  uhh02:24
dazed||lapthats highly awkward02:25
dazed||lap....02:25
ReblendedI gotta get rid of the loopback?02:25
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dazed||lapthats not righ02:25
dazed||lapyeah02:25
dazed||lapthat did happent o me02:25
dazed||laptry trestarting ur network controllers02:25
Reblendeddazed||lap ohh, in the devices tab, there is loopback or eth0.. not wlan002:26
dazed||lapyeah that happens02:26
dazed||laprestart02:26
dazed||lapur network controllers02:26
Reblendeddazed||lap how. =p02:26
dazed||lapur on livecd arent u02:27
dazed||lapi forgot...02:27
Reblendedwlan0 shows up in the network settings... but  dazed||lap   yes02:27
Reblendedcan't restart dazed||lap  =] 02:27
dazed||laptheres an init.d command but i forget it maybe someone in here knows02:27
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Reblendedinit.d without restarting? dazed||lap02:27
Hueyis there a way to switch the default configuration of gnome so that i can Alt+Right_Click to resize a window instead of Alt+Middle_Click?02:28
dazed||laptry typing in wlan0 into the devices tab02:28
dazed||lapand see if it picks it up02:28
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Reblendeddazed||lap hmm. let me see where you mean02:28
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ReblendedI don't need to create a location, do I? dazed||lap02:29
dazed||lapReblended, do u see netmonitors in ur systray02:29
dazed||lapno02:29
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Reblendedyep.. first thing to load, I think from the moment the gui booted dazed||lap02:29
dazed||lapok right click those click properties02:30
dazed||lapwhere it says eth0 or lo type in wlan0 and see what goes on02:30
gpledanyone seen docs on how to get your sound card working?02:30
dazed||lapto tell u the truth i think all ur lacking is a reboot :(02:30
gpledi have gotten some info from knopix.  sound works there.02:31
Reblendeddazed||lap  100% signal strength...02:31
Reblendeddazed||lap lemme see if I can ping02:31
dazed||lapit always says that02:31
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dazed||lapthat just means its connected02:31
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crimsungpled: need the output of the following on pastebin.com: lsmod, lspci -v, cat /proc/asound/cards, amixer02:31
Reblendeddazed||lap lol ok... network is unreachable02:32
dazed||lapReblended, are u seeing activity or is it just idle02:32
Reblendeddazed||lap I typed in wlan0  idle02:32
Reblendeddazed||lap I want a pseudo reboot =p02:32
dazed||lapthat means its not getting any connectivity...that just requires restart im pretty sure :/02:32
Reblendedlol ok02:32
dazed||lapit needs to configure what u had done02:32
ReblendedIC dazed||lap shouldn't I tell it to do that in the terminal window?02:33
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Reblendeddazed||lap refresh adaptors without restart?02:33
Reblendedyou don't think that the loopback is messing things up? dazed||lap02:33
dazed||lapReblended, i dont think the loopback is doing it....but i couldnt be 100% on that since i have yet to run into ur prob02:34
Reblendeddo you have loopback on? does it need to be on? dazed||lap02:34
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kennixhow do i run the xorg configure thing again?02:35
gpledcrimsun: isapnp cs4235 codec:ws/sb driver ad1848  (it is not pci)  mods are cs4232 ad1848 sound and soundcore02:35
dazed||lapReblended, i have it on my controllers list but i dont blieve its on02:35
kangpehMy X-Chat is now using KONQUEROR to open webpages :( - how do i set it back to using mozilla firefox??02:35
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crimsungpled: so you're using the oss/free driver02:36
SuperLagkangpeh: set it in your preferences02:36
Reblendedchange your default programs  (preferred)  kangpeh02:36
kangpehmy default programs is set to firefox already02:36
crimsungpled: I'm only familiar with the alsa ones, which are snd-cs4236 (preferred) and snd-cs423202:36
kangpeh(system->preferences->preferred applications)02:36
Reblendedpreferred aplications program  kangpeh02:36
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kangpehreblended02:37
kangpehi jus tsaid i already did that02:37
kangpeh(system->preferences->preferred applications) <---02:37
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vessuvius81how can I see what ip address one of my network interfaces has?02:37
kangpeh :/02:38
gpledcrimsun: those are the ones knoppix uses.  it is strange that ubuntu does not look at dmesg to get this info02:39
Reblendeddazed||lap well, time to eat.. thx for all the hand holding02:39
dottedquadi did cdrecord -scanbus and on the first line it says 0,0,0 0) '' '' '' Disk and all the rest have * at the end.  Does this mean that it found a cdrom or my burner?02:39
dottedquadi'm trying to burn ubuntu to a cd using cdrecorder so i can install it02:40
Reblendedmuch better to get BURNatOnce, dottedquad02:40
dottedquadok02:40
Reblendedvery EZ  dottedquad =] 02:40
dottedquadwell i don't have a GIU02:40
dazed||lapReblended, sorry i cant get it to workbetter but i think a restart will do it02:40
dottedquadGUI02:40
Reblendedand free I think02:40
kangpehso nobody know how to reset the x-chat browser default heh02:40
Reblendedlol on live? dazed||lap02:41
dazed||lapReblended, lol i know02:41
crimsungpled: that's because that's a nasty method of pulling information02:41
dazed||laponce u install u know what ur in for :)02:41
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Reblendeddazed||lap yes.. great practice for me.. Thx again02:41
dottedquadReblended is it gui based?02:41
Reblendedall things are this fun? dazed||lap02:41
Reblendeddottedquad, it's win based02:42
dazed||lapif not more!!!02:42
dottedquadahh02:42
Reblendeddazed||lap ROFL02:42
dazed||lap:)02:42
Reblendeddazed||lap well eat time.. thx.. bye now02:42
dazed||lapnp have fun02:42
dottedquadi don't have a GUI cause i can't get my damn ATI card to work02:42
gpledcrimsun: going to reboot to clear all the modprobes i have been doing02:42
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MellarJesterace_: In Flames?02:43
dottedquadso can anyone help me out to get cdrecord to work?02:43
vessuvius81yay! I finally got wireless working02:43
Jesterace_Mellar: yep02:44
crimsun(Subterranean or Whoracle all the way)02:44
crimsun</ot>02:44
MellarJesterace_: not bad for some Canadian dude ;)02:44
stascrimsun02:45
dhonnhey what is the recommended display resolution for Ubuntu02:45
crimsundhonn: that depends on your display device02:45
crimsundhonn: and of course what you prefer02:46
crimsunstas: yes?02:46
frankwhere are the files for the menus in gnome stored?02:46
crimsunfrank: /usr/share/applications/*.desktop02:46
crimsunfrank: /usr/share/pixmaps/*  for the icons, usually02:47
kevmanHow do I install Java support?02:47
dhonnof course but what is ubuntu designed for?  1024x768 looks like its 640x480 in windows02:47
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frankcrimsun: thanks. menu-editor is still buggy02:47
crimsundhonn: ubuntu isn't designed for any particular Mode02:48
turbolivhi all02:48
turbolivsome french here ?02:48
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turbolivi have some problem of refresh rate for my screen and need help/tips02:48
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PacoBCNno, but I love croissants02:48
kevmanWoo, it was installed :P02:48
revelaterhey, xmule just crashed on me, how do i kill it?02:48
dhonnprobably looks great in 1600x1200?02:48
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PacoBCNrevelater you can try with killall xmule02:49
gpledcrimsun: where did you want me to paste output?02:49
dazedrevelater: get a pid list (ps auwx) aand find the pid and kill <pid>02:49
crimsungpled: pastebin.com02:49
PacoBCNrevelater, if not you can type "top" so you see the process id and kill that02:49
lucychilicroissants are nice02:49
revelateri got it, thanks02:49
PacoBCNrevelater, or with the gui :)02:49
turbolivmy screen in windows system supports 1024/768 @75 hz (perhaps 72)02:49
PacoBCNLast time I was in Marseille I ate 10 croissants a day02:50
turbolivbut with ubuntu only 60 hz02:50
turbolivmy poor eyes :'(02:50
turbolivany tip ?02:50
frankturbolive: you have to modify your xorg.conf02:50
holycowand add the correct horizontal and vertical refresh rates for your monito02:50
holycowr02:50
holycowyou can usuallygoogle your model and make and the v and h refresh rates02:51
turbolivi'm noob on linux (my first day)02:51
holycowthats what determines possible refresh rates02:51
turbolivhow to do ?02:51
gpledcrimsun: here is lsmod http://pastebin.com/27099302:51
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holycowwell, first google your monitor model and make, and find the correct vertical and horizontal refresh rates02:51
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danthemanholycow: i was on asking questions yesterday about dual-boot....i actually pulled it off today02:52
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Anubisnicotine keeps crashing02:52
gpledcrimsun: what other info did you want to see?02:52
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stashow do I install a program02:52
stasI downloaded a .deb package of it02:53
PacoBCNstas, you should check the guide02:53
DazeD|how do i auto register my nick upon connect?02:53
holycowdantheman, no kidding? congratulations :)02:53
danthemandoes someone know of a good guide to installing the nvidia graphics driver?02:53
crimsungpled: lspnp -v02:53
holycowdantheman, how did you do it?02:53
PacoBCNstas, however, it's "sudo dpkg -i pack.deb"02:53
danthemanwell, it was quite a process02:53
crimsundantheman: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:53
holycowdantheman, easy ... its on the ubuntu guide website02:53
danthemanthat involved about half a pack of cigarettes02:53
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danthemanand a lot of stress02:53
danthemanthanks02:53
PacoBCNstas, http://ubuntuguide.org/02:53
CygnusX1Anyone know why 5.04 might be unable to install due to inability to load various IDE modules?  ISO checksum is good, CD file checksum is good.02:53
danthemanwhen i put in the new hard drive, and installed ubuntu on it, i just wrote grub over ntldr02:53
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PacoBCNdantheman, no idea02:53
vessuvius81hmmm  on my wireless, I can see the access point, can get addresses resolved with nslookup, but I can't get a web page to load?  Any ideas?02:53
PacoBCN:(02:53
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danthemanand for some reason grub would crap out02:53
danthemanerror 2102:54
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danthemanand i fiddled with some bios settings and rearranged the jumpers on the hard drives until they worked02:54
danthemanand now i get the grub menu, and everything works fine02:54
danthemani'm not sure what the hubbub about a lack of gui installer is...i thought this install was a lot easier than fedora core02:54
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vessuvius81the install is the easiest I've ever had02:55
danthemanyeah, it was ridiculously easy....it just did everything for me02:55
danthemani just had to tell it to install on my other hard drive02:55
holycowyeah error21 usually means it cant find the partition, usually  you just haveto point it to the right partition02:56
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holycowdantheman, the thing about this graphical installer is that it works on 11 architectures02:56
holycowin other words, it's superior :)02:56
holycowits justnot lickable02:56
danthemani don't need lickables...i need something that works02:56
danthemanfedora let me kill windows xp without even asking me02:57
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gpledcrimsun: look like i do not have lspnp.  how can i get it?02:57
jadoobanybody know what to do if you lock yourself out of the sudoers file?02:57
hypnoreboot into single user mode and fix it, assuming you dont have the root password02:58
jadoobalright, yeah got rid of the root password but didn't realize the sudoers file wasn't right02:59
hypnout oh :)02:59
jadoobis there any real reason to use sudo rather than just su to root?02:59
danthemanwell, i'm gonna go for now and pray that nvidia works well02:59
stasok new problem02:59
stasdpkg: error processing cedega_4.3-1_i386.deb (--install):03:00
stas package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)03:00
stasErrors were encountered while processing:03:00
stas cedega_4.3-1_i386.deb03:00
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vessuvius81wooo wireless works03:00
vessuvius81thank god03:00
hypnoFor when several people need root access to a machine, yes, it means you dont need to give out the root password. For when you're the only user, not so sure.03:00
propagandhistas: is the machine i386 or AMD03:00
gpledanyone know how to get lspnp?03:00
akurashy<vessuvius81> wooo wireless works < how did you make it work, my friend had some problems with wifi03:00
dazeddfa03:00
crimsungpled: you need to install pcmcia-cs03:00
gpledcrimsun: k03:01
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danthemanthe Menu Editor isn't in Applications->System Tools03:03
danthemananybody know where i might find it?03:03
Quest-Masterdanthemam: http://www.ubuntuforums.org <-- under third-party projects03:04
Quest-Master*dantheman03:04
dottedquadalright here's the problem i did mount /dev/hdd /mnt/burner with a cd that has 'stuff' on it and it mounted correctly so i unmounted it and popped in a blank cd and did the same command but i got an I/0 error.  I'm guessing that's because there's nothing on the cd?03:05
dottedquadthe reason why i'm trying to mount the blank cd is to use cdrecorder to burn the ubuntu iso to a blank cd.. or shouldn't i do this?03:05
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dottedquadi tried doing cdrecord -scanbus to see where my burner is and it didn't find it, so now i'm stuck and have no clue what todo03:06
vessuvius81use gnomebaker instead03:06
vessuvius81the default cd burner is messed03:06
danthemani've downloaded a .deb package...how do i use it?03:06
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Agrajag.deb for what?03:06
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danthemangnome menu editor03:07
vessuvius81sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb03:07
Agrajagoh03:07
Agrajagwhat he said03:07
danthemanalrighty...thanks03:07
vessuvius81in the directory where its located of course03:07
dottedquadis dnomebaker gui?03:07
danthemanright03:07
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dottedquadgnomebaker*03:07
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thoreauputicdottedquad: yes03:07
vessuvius81yeah dottedquad03:08
EricNeonmorning all~03:08
thoreauputicdottedquad: it's quite nice03:08
nomasteryodaEricNeon: evening here... greetings03:08
dottedquadwell the problem is i'm without a GIU03:08
dottedquadGUI*03:08
dottedquadcause i can't get my damn ATI card to install03:08
FlourHi. A lot of packages in dpkg -l are marked 'rc'. How can I remove all of these packages entirely? I tried to dpkg -P -a, but none of the packages I wanted to remove are being purged.03:08
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FlourIf possible I'd like to avoid doing it all by hand.03:09
EricNeonnomasteryoda, here is shanghai 8 03:09
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Maxxistwell I followed the binary driver install how to.  and still cant get my nvidia drivers to go.  and now X is broken.  lol03:10
thoreauputicdottedquad: you don't mount a blank CD - it doesn't have a file system on it to mount :)03:10
nomasteryodaEricNeon: nice03:10
nomasteryoda8 am tomorrow03:10
nomasteryodacool03:10
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EricNeonhah~03:10
CygnusX1During install of 5.04: Missing module 'ide-mod' ide-probe-mod ide-detect and ide-floppy. Anyone? ISO is good, CD filechecksums are good.03:11
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CugaMaxxist: what kind of nvidia card you have? im having a problem with mine aswell, i have a 6600GT03:12
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bogusmy 6600gt (pci-e) worked fine with the binary driver howto03:14
staspropagandhi, it's an amd64 machine03:14
bogusas well as my gf 440 go03:14
Cugaon hoary?03:14
propagandhithen the package u have isnt suited to it03:14
bogusyep both on hoary03:15
stasI thought amd64 could use run x86 code03:15
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bogusfresh install btw03:15
gpledcrimsun: lspnp -v gets:  lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available03:15
boguswhat error do you get?03:15
propagandhistas:u need one for your architecture - perhaps the amd64 could execute x86 code, but clearly it cant use that package03:15
Cugabogus, where is the howto you are refering too, i just followed the readme from nvidias site03:16
MaxxistI am getting a FATAL: Module nvidia not found.  when I do a modprobe nvidia.  and apt says its installed.03:16
bogusowh don't follow the nvidia readme :)03:16
bogusone sec03:16
stasthat's kind of silly03:16
Maxxistomg03:16
Cugabogus, well from what i did, it installs fine, no errors anywhere, using nvagp, whenever i start gl apps they work great for about 5 secs then hang system03:16
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stasisn't amd64 just a superset of i386?03:16
bogushttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/view?searchterm=nvidia03:17
Maxxistsomeone told me last night to follow that binary driver install howto from wiki03:17
stasI mean under windows, I have no problems installing 32-bit software03:17
Maxxistit dont work for me.03:17
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MaxxistI have done manual installs of the nvidia driver in FC many a time without problems like this.03:18
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propagandhistas: that may be true, but it seems pretty clear that particular package wont work03:18
stasI thought there might be a flag or something I could use to make it pretend that it fits03:19
Cugabogus, so you are using the 7174 drivers?03:20
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stasdoes this mean my system can't install i386 software?03:20
cseteHello.  I'm getting a seg fault trying to run vncserver on 5.04.  (AMD64)  Any suggestions?03:21
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kroI'm trying to use netboot images to do a server only install of ubuntu similar to what is done when you type "server" at the cdrom boot prompt, how would I do that?03:24
kroHow do I pass the "server" option?03:24
kroI'm doing everything fully automated.03:25
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ntoskrnlhi03:25
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propagandhiwhats the fastest form of internet currently available anywhere in the world??03:26
ntoskrnl100 MB03:26
virtualdheh03:26
ntoskrnlin my company03:26
virtuald100003:26
propagandhiwhats it called?03:26
virtualdfor private customers03:26
virtualdgigabit ethernet03:27
ntoskrnlits called "KASL"03:27
propagandhithats ethernet03:27
propagandhii mean internet03:27
ntoskrnlmeans "Kick Ass Subscriber Line"03:27
virtualdwww.bredband2.com03:27
CugaOne of my remote offices has a A-10 (10 mb burstable) pretty damn fast03:27
ntoskrnlguys , what do you use to partition your harddisk?03:28
ntoskrnlCuga : i feel it03:28
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propagandhiCuga: how do u get it, whats it called - who provides??03:28
CugaAllstream is our provider (they are like the provider for providers)03:28
Cugaits called A-1003:29
Cugai think they go higher too03:29
Maxxistahh damn.  I needed to download new restricted modules based on my smp kernel.  geeezuz.03:29
propagandhiok, and is that the fastest type available03:29
HrdwrBoBA10 is a tank buster army plane :)03:29
virtualdhere in swedens theres an isp who offers 1 Gbit/s for about $110/month03:29
ntoskrnlguys , what do you use to make partitions in your HD ?03:30
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Maxxisti feel sharp as a marble.03:30
Jet2k5hey guys I got this error, 'Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress.' but what package do I need, I thought I had all of them03:30
Cugantoskrnl; try qtparted03:30
propagandhivirtuald - are u serious??03:30
virtualdyes03:30
ntoskrnlCuga : is it for Windows?03:30
propagandhicompany??03:30
virtualdbredband203:30
djpowderhi, i'm interested in dual booting winxp and ubuntu.  my motherboard/bios are fairly new, so will I have to worry about the 1024 cylinder boundary when creating the /boot partition?03:31
Cugantoskrnl, dont think so, i use it in linux03:31
frankdjpowder: I had no problem03:31
ntoskrnlyeah , but i need a partitioner for Windows03:31
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ntoskrnlCuga : cause i don't have to power to partion my HD in Linux installation :P .. i'm afraid to loose all my WinXP Files03:32
CugaPartition magic is pretty good if you got it03:32
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frankdjpowder I put Ubuntu at the end of my 2nd hard drive03:32
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djpowderfrank: thanks i'm gonna give it a shot without repartitioning :)03:32
Maxxistyeah a nice big nvidia splash screen.03:33
ntoskrnlCuga : version 8 ?03:33
holycowi gotta say i also love the inclusion of open office 2.0 beta in universe03:33
holycowit's a wee bit crashy but usable none the less03:33
virtualdpropagandhi: but only for people who live in the city of Lund in an appartment owned by HSB :)03:33
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Cugayeah thats what i use03:33
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propagandhicrazy stuff03:33
ntoskrnlgood03:33
virtuald8-] 03:33
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Nigelenkihybernate apparently works03:34
ntoskrnlCuga : thank you very much ;)03:34
Cuganp03:35
ntoskrnlsee ya , bye03:35
danthemancan someone tell me how to fix firefox so that it doesn't give me the alerts every time i go to encrypted pages and stuff like that?03:35
danthemani leave the boxes unchecked, but i keep getting them03:35
danthemancould it be because i'm changing the settings while i'm not logged in as root?03:37
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jasoncan anyone help with gok, i can't get it to work03:37
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chillywillywhy isn't OOo 1.1.4 in hoary?03:38
chillywillyit's at 1.1.303:38
chillywillywassup with that?03:38
^thehatsrule^install it yourself?03:38
chillywillyit's been out for months03:38
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chillywillyif you install it by hand then you loose all the file asociation bullshit03:39
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propagandhicrazy look at these speeds: http://sitehost.redwheeler.com/network_connectivity_speed.htm03:40
Nigelenkisuspend to ram03:40
Nigelenkican't find out how03:40
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Burgundaviachillywilly, 1.1.4 came after the new upstream version freeze03:43
danthemanhow do i log in as root?03:43
a_peckhey all03:44
cowbuddantheman: sudo su03:44
danthemanin the terminal?03:44
Burgundaviadantheman, Ubuntu uses sudo, see www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo03:44
cowbudyah03:44
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danthemando any of you know why my application settings might not hold between logins?03:45
danthemanlike my firefox settings about alerts moving to and from encrypted sites03:46
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a_peckdantheman, does it happen with everything or only firefox?03:48
danthemanit appears as though it's just firefox03:48
danthemanright now i'm trying to use about:config to see if i can fix it permanently03:49
chillywillyBurgundavia: will it ever make it into hoary?03:49
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chillywillywhat's the repo name for the new development version?03:50
frankbreezy03:50
franknot much there though03:50
a_peckdantheman have you checked in your /home/user/.mozilla/firefox if your session (xxxx.default by default) is there?03:51
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Burgundaviachillywilly, no, Hoary is now frozen03:51
chillywillyoh well I like to live dangerously03:51
Burgundaviachillywilly, only security fixes are going into hoary03:51
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chillywillyalrighty03:51
Burgundaviachillywilly, I would hold off on breezy, as they are about to sync to debian sid03:51
Burgundaviaand that will probably break a lot of things03:51
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jr_G-manokay...i am able to view my raid partition with dmraid, etc.03:51
chillywillybah...debian sid ;)03:51
jr_G-manhow to i set it up so that it recognizes it on bootup?03:51
Coraiis there a gui based way to configure samba or do I have to go back to the old vi?03:51
chillywillyis that they way they have always done it?03:52
jsgotangcobah what do you want etch?03:52
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chillywillyor are they giving into the pressures of "compatability" ;)03:52
danthemana_peck, i have not03:52
danthemanlet me do that03:52
nomasteryodaasketch03:52
infinitoanyone knows howto show mounted partitions from fstab on desktop???03:52
nomasteryodahehe03:52
chillywillyIan Murdock had some not so nice things to say about Ubuntu03:52
Burgundaviachillywilly, they always sync to debian sid03:53
Burgundaviachillywilly, so that various patches can flow back and forth03:53
tugalonei've come to the conclusion that lookupd is evil.03:53
danthemana_peck: it's not there03:53
a_peckhum, dantheman there's your thing then03:53
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a_peckdid you try re-installing firefox?03:54
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ablyssinfinito, type df in Terminal03:54
danthemanhow do i fix it?03:54
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jsgotangcowhat do you expect Ian Murdock has interests in Progeny03:54
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ablyssinfinito, oh nm.. i see you won them on the Desktop03:54
chillywillyjsgotangco: he was talking about Debian proper and compatability with Ubuntu03:54
infinitoablyss, i mean show volume icons on desktop like warty (gnome2.8) did03:54
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Al2O3hello!03:55
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Burgundaviachillywilly, as someone pointed out, some stuff in Debian sid does install on sarge03:55
Al2O3wow, 492 and counting.03:55
danthemana_peck: how do i create a profile for myself in firefox?03:55
chillywillyBurgundavia: not sure what that has to do with what was said03:55
ablyssmaybe ln -s /home/foobar/mounted_shares/ /home/foobar/Desktop/03:55
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Al2O3I hear the screams about ubuntu being almost anti-debian at this point, why is the debian folks bitching about this when it is good for the exposure of the distro?03:55
Burgundaviachillywilly, Murdock specifically complained that Ubuntu stuff wasn't installing on Sarge, when in fact Ubuntu syncs to sid03:56
chillywillytoo much politcal crud there03:56
infinitoablyss, i know symlinking works, but gnome used to show mounted volume icons on desktop, and i really liked that feature03:56
chillywillyI see03:56
infinitoand don't know why ubuntu hide them03:56
a_peckdantheman, what does your profile.ini file say in that same directory?03:56
a_peckdantheman, about sessions of course03:56
danthemanin /home/user?03:56
thoreauputicchillywilly: it's a storm in a teacup: even in #debian there are plenty of people now using Ubuntu on the desktop - neither Debian nor Ubuntu wants a holy war03:56
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a_peckdantheman, or profiles03:57
danthemanthe only think i've got in my /home/user directory is a Desktop directory03:57
danthemannothing about profiles or sessions03:57
a_peckdantheman it's a hidden file03:57
ablyssholy war? lmao.. "my computer can beat up your computer" --- I can see the computer parts flying already03:57
danthemanhow do i see the hidden files?03:58
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danthemanah, -a03:58
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thoreauputicablyss: heh - emacs vs vi , KDE vs GNOME , etc - hopefully we've put all that behind us :)03:58
a_peckctrl-h in nautilus, or right click show hidden files or -a in console03:58
membreyaquick question guys, is there any way to tell when a cron job last ran?03:59
danthemanit's got a pathname to a XXXX.default file03:59
geneo93ablyss:  is that really you03:59
danthemanwhich appears to be my profile03:59
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ablyssgeneo93, yes I am came back from the dead04:00
geneo93from beos dead04:00
a_peckdantheman, delete it, try again. and when you close ubuntu next, check the "save settings" option04:00
idn__hi, dont suppose you could help me with a n00b question, but what exactly is a kernel header?04:00
ablyssgeneo93, oh a beos fellow.. that be me too04:00
MaxxistI swear fonts look better in ubuntu than in FC3.  am I right?04:00
danthemandelete the XXXX.default folder?04:00
membreyaanyone?04:01
danthemanshould i make changes to profiles.ini?04:01
geneo93i figured as much04:01
geneo93kane here man04:01
ablysslmao04:01
a_peckgeneo93, i saw your violent reaction to mandrake yesterday. did you test the mandriva linux limited 2005?04:01
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ablyss:P04:01
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geneo93a_peck:  yes i have the piece off you know what04:02
a_peckdantheman, don't need to04:02
danthemana_peck: do i delete the *.default directory, and do i need to make a change to profiles.ini to reflect that?04:02
danthemanalright04:02
ltapd204anyone know how to install mono with umbunto 5.04 64bit04:02
ablyssgeneo93, man.. now that you are here i will definitely have a harder time restraining myself from blabing on about nothing important04:02
a_peckgeneo93, wanted some feedback, got it :) lol04:03
geneo93pycube comes here once in a while04:03
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danthemana_peck: i deleted the .default directory, and now i can't get into gmail04:04
geneo93a- i changed my ip and loged back in just to see what was said04:04
a_peckdantheman, what do you mean you can't get into gmail? not at all, or not automatically. the latter would be normal04:04
danthemanlet me get the error message04:04
a_peckdantheman, i think you'd like to reinstall firefox maybe04:04
ablyssgeneo93, glad to see some friends here.. did you obelix store your identity here? yep he sure did.. had us all rolf04:05
danthemanoh wait04:05
danthemannow it works04:05
ablyssdamnt it.. its a curse, its gotta be..04:05
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geneo93haha ok i'm not going to say anymore then04:05
ablyss:P04:06
a_peckdantheman, try closing firefox, quit ubuntu and save the session. firefox pops up those "leaving secured site" warning on some upgrades too04:06
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danthemani think it's all fixed now...i just had to close firefox04:07
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Maxxistis there an archiver for ubuntu that will do rar ?04:10
Agrajaginstall rar from multiverse04:10
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Maxxistthank you04:10
ellsanyone have any luck syncing a dell axim with linux04:10
BurgundaviaMaxxist, unrar-nonfree04:10
ablyssgeneo93, you like billards? foobillard is pretty fun04:11
geneo93well i avoid games that take skill04:11
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Burgundaviageneo93, try kolf04:11
geneo93i play kolf though04:11
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ellsanyone have any luck syncing a dell axim with linux04:12
ablyssthat table tennis game on linux takes a heck of a lot skil04:12
Burgundaviakolf almost makes me want to install kde04:12
geneo93kde 3.4 is great04:12
Burgundavianot really a kde person myself04:12
holycowwould anyone know why open office prints a page basicallynormal, but scaled down to 2/3rds of a page?04:13
geneo93well i'm not a gnome either04:13
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Burgundaviaholycow, have you tested another printer?04:13
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holycowyes, actually same printer works fine when i print from gedit04:14
mkhanhi i am new to ubuntu and i am doing the update using synaptic04:14
mkhani got this message04:14
mkhanW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>04:14
mkhancan anybody help me04:14
Burgundaviamkhan, check your clock04:15
Burgundaviamkhan, if that is wrong, that error will come up04:15
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mkhanalright04:16
Burgundaviamkhan, it might be other things, but that is probably the most likely04:16
mkhanits set correctly to eastern standard time04:16
mkhani never got it before04:16
Burgundaviamkhan, do you dual boot04:16
mkhanyeah i dual boot04:17
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Burgundaviamkhan, windows might be messing with your time04:17
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geneo93kill windows then fdisk04:17
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Burgundaviageneo93, that is a little extreme04:17
Xoreanyone here familiar with setting up virtualhosts on apache2 ?04:17
mkhanbut the time that i see is correct when i check it with my wrist watch04:17
Burgundaviamkhan, sync it with ntp04:18
Xoreprimarily, what's the difference between sites-available and sites-enabled ?04:18
geneo93Burgundavia:  not in my eyes04:18
mkhanhow do i do that04:18
Burgundaviageneo93, I might agree with you, but... nevermind04:18
mkhani never got this message before04:18
chadquestion--i'm trying to set up dansguardian, squid, and dhcpd3(?) on a machine that's to be used as a firewall--anyone know how to do this?04:18
mkhani started getting it recently04:18
Burgundaviamkhan, this may not be the issue, but whenever I ran into it it was due to time04:18
Burgundaviamkhan, right click on the clock04:18
Burgundaviamkhan, choose adjust date and time04:19
mkhanok04:19
Burgundaviamkhan, check "sync with internet servers"04:19
geneo93chad:  try smoothwall04:19
mkhanok i will do that04:19
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Paradiossinais there anybody using pyslsk?04:20
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scottI'm going to buy a wireless card. Should I get Intel b/g 2200 or Atheros a/b/g ?04:20
chadgeneo93: as in a totally separate distribution?  I installed Firestarter and it could see both NICs, but couldn't set up the DHCPd server appropriately...04:21
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Burgundaviascott, I have the dlink 650+. works ootb04:21
Plukatheros here, indeed ootb04:22
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mkhanBurgundavia, i tried to sync my time with ntp but it asked me to install it04:22
geneo93chad:  do you need a complete os for that purpose04:22
Plukdlink has atheros chipset too right?04:22
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Burgundaviamkhan, you should install it04:22
mkhani did that04:22
Burgundaviamkhan, ok, now it should work04:22
mkhanbut its again asking me to install it04:22
chadgeneo93: this is for a church, so we're trying to keep costs down (i.e. nonexistent).  ;-)04:22
Burgundaviamkhan, there is a wierd bug associated with that04:23
Burgundaviachad, smoothwall is a linux distro specifically designed to be a firewall04:23
mkhanhow do i get around it04:23
geneo93chad:  smothwall 2 is free04:23
nickolichad: i have smoothwall04:23
a_peckchad, how does a church need a FIREwall??04:23
nickolilol04:23
chadlol04:23
scottis there any advantage of the atheros over the intel 2200? I don't think I'll be using an a network04:23
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chadchad kicks a_peck  ;-)04:23
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a_pecklol04:24
a_peck:)04:24
holycowoh, if anyones open office is printing at 1/4 scale, do file / print settings, change on of the variables, then change them back and apply04:24
geneo93nickoli:  keep the devil out04:24
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holycowappearently the 100% scale print config doesn't get set on install sometimes04:24
nickoligeneo93 w/e04:24
mkhanBurgundavia, is there a way to get around that bug04:24
Paradiossinais there anybody using pyslsk?04:24
chadso you'd say run a generic smoothwall install instead of running ubuntu/dans/squid/dhcp?04:25
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holycow it may still be an xprint problem perhaps as firefox prints at 1/4 scale04:25
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holycowat least oo works04:25
nickoliholycow ever use 2.0 oo04:25
geneo93chad:  smoothwall is exlent firewall router04:25
holycownickoli, right now infact04:25
nickoliholycow how is it04:25
holycowawesome04:26
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nickoliholycow i dont use it often so i dont know if the upgrade would be worth it04:26
holycowit's like night and day04:26
holycowyou will be amazed04:26
nickoliwell now oo isnt starting04:26
Burgundaviamkhan, hmm, no idea04:27
Burgundaviamkhan, I think may just be a reporting bug. I suspect that it has enabled NTP, it just needs a reboot to tell it that04:27
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mkhani did the sync04:27
mkhanbut still i am getting this message W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>04:27
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geneo93ablyss:  you should try circuslinux04:27
desrtmkhan; that seems quite evil.04:28
desrtmkhan; don't install anything04:28
Burgundaviamkhan, I also see the error04:29
desrtmkhan; try changing mirrors and see if the problem goes away04:29
desrti don't have that error04:29
mkhanso there is no way to get away with the error04:29
mkhani did try changing the mirrors04:29
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desrtwell the error means that someone might be trying to hax0r you04:29
Burgundaviamkhan, I would try a reboot04:29
desrtBurgundavia; that won't help04:30
Burgundaviadesrt, I seriously doubt it04:30
ritalinanyone know where I can get the latest fluxbox for ubuntu?04:30
blizahhow do i use archive manager to unrar a rar?04:30
blizaherr what do i use for *.rars in ubuntu?04:30
desrtBurgundavia; that's exactly the error that you would get if one of the mirrors was compromised04:30
Burgundaviablizah, unrar-nonfree04:30
Burgundaviadesrt, or if you have time error04:30
blizahthat in synaptic?04:30
mkhanyeah this is synaptic04:30
desrtBurgundavia; that's one hell of a time skew :)04:30
Burgundaviablizah, should be in multiverse and thus synatpic04:30
desrtmkhan; is your clock set correctly?04:30
mkhani get the same error for apt-get too04:30
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Burgundaviadesrt, I used to get that all the time with my old laptop as windows would play with the time04:31
mkhanyeah my clock is set correctly to the eastern time04:31
mkhannew york time04:31
mkhanhow could windows play with the time04:32
desrtmkhan; do an apt-key list04:32
Burgundaviamkhan, it plays with the system clock04:32
Cugahey whats the default sync rates for a 17" monitor displaying at 1280x1024 ?04:33
yyc747I've installed openssh-server, how do I add it to my default runlevel?04:33
desrtCuga; depends on the monitor04:33
crimsunyyc747: it's already added.04:33
desrtCuga; what refresh?04:33
desrt60Hz?04:33
Cuga7504:33
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desrt(**) fglrx(0): *Default mode "1280x1024": 135.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz04:34
mkhanthis is what i get04:34
mkhan/etc/apt/trusted.gpg04:34
mkhan--------------------04:34
mkhanpub  1024D/FBB75451 2004-12-30 Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key <cdimage@ubuntu.com>04:34
mkhanpub  1024D/1F41B907 1999-10-03 Christian Marillat <marillat@debian.org>04:34
mkhanuid                            Christian Marillat <marillat@free.fr>04:34
mkhanuid                            Christian Marillat <marillat.christian@wanadoo.fr>04:34
mkhansub  1536g/C28DCC42 1999-10-0304:34
mkhansub  1024D/5D3877A7 2002-08-2604:34
mkhanpub  1024D/437D05B5 2004-09-12 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>04:34
mkhansub  2048g/79164387 2004-09-1204:34
desrtwoh04:34
crimsunplease use #flood for floods.04:34
Cugadesrt, that doesn't tell me what the sync ranges are04:34
desrtCuga; the sync ranges are ranges04:34
desrtif you set them to contain those values, then it will work04:34
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Cugai need vertical and horizontal04:35
desrtya.  75 is the vertical04:35
desrt80kHz is the horizontal04:35
blizahburgundavia k installed unrar-nonfree....how do i go about unraring an archive now?04:35
nickoliwhat plugin do i need to play mp3's, rhythmbox wont let me play them04:35
blizahtried to open it with unrar-nonfree but cant find it04:35
Burgundaviablizah, on the command line unrar e blah.rar04:35
crimsunnickoli: enable universe then install gstreamer0.8-mad04:35
blizahk04:35
crimsunnickoli: see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:36
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nickolicrimsun ok04:36
mkhanso help for me guys04:36
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mkhananyways04:36
blizahanything to mount a bin file?04:36
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blizahdamen tools or alchol 120?04:37
desrtCuga; each mode (horiz x vertical x refresh-rate) has a specific horizontal and vertical scan rate.  the ranges in the X config file just tell the server what modes are ok (ie: if their scanrates fall within your specified range) and allows it to pick the highest possible refresh rate that your monitor supports for each resolution04:37
kennethlovecan anyone help me with dyndns?04:37
mkhanthanks a lot for your help04:37
AgrajagBurgundavia: not unrar e, unrar x04:37
mkhani will get back to you04:37
Agrajage ignores all paths in the archive04:37
desrtso if you only want 1280x1024x75Hz then you could seriously set your range from like 74.9-75.1 and 79.9-80.104:37
jordanaukennethlove,04:38
Cugadesrt thanks that worked04:38
jordanauyou mean the domain name thing?04:38
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desrtnp04:38
kennethlovejordanau: yeah. for some reason i can't get outside connections. everything looks fine on the router, though04:39
Cugamy eyes thank you04:39
Cugahaha04:39
desrtheh04:39
kennethloveso i assume it's an ubuntu problem04:39
jordanauwhat ip are you using? is it a 168.192 nuber or something else?04:39
kennethlovewhen i do a 192.168 ip (local) it works. when i do the dyndns name, it doesn't04:39
stazichhey guys does anyone know the chatroom of yellow dog linux?04:40
desrtkennethlove; you have all the port-forward stuff setup?04:40
kennethlovei do belive so, yes04:40
desrtwhat is your DNS name?04:40
kennethlovekenneth.homelinux.org04:40
jordanaukennethlove, you need a different ip04:40
Al2O3is GNUstep on ubuntu pretty solid?04:40
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Al2O3anyone doing development with it here?04:40
desrtkenneth.homelinux.org has address 206.53.29.6204:41
dukenhi, i have problem while compiling squid source04:41
desrt21:40 [freenode]  -!- kennethlove [~kennethlo@ip70-178-123-252.ma.dl.cox.net] 04:41
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Al2O3either as an app level developer or actually doing some fo the GS development.04:41
kennethlovehmm.04:41
desrtyou're a long way from home :)04:41
desrthave you ever used the name from a different isp?04:41
kennethloveno04:41
desrtkenneth.homelinux.org belongs to someone using pcisys.net04:42
desrtwhoever that is04:42
dukenchecking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no04:42
dukenchecking for gcc... gcc04:42
dukenchecking whether the C compiler (gcc  -g) works... no04:42
dukenconfigure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.04:42
duken04:42
dukenhow to fix it ?04:42
desrtduken; did you apt-get install build-essential?04:42
kennethlovedamnit. i've been typing that wrong all day. :) it's .net04:42
desrtah.  does that solve your problem, then? :)04:43
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D_FFor some reason, I can't make the TeamSpeak client start in Ubuntu 5.04.04:43
jordanaukennethlove, haha work now?04:43
kennethloveno04:43
desrtok04:43
desrtwhat service are you trying to use?04:43
desrtweb? ssh?04:43
dukendesrt: thanks04:43
kennethloveweb for now04:43
desrtduken; np.04:43
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stashi04:44
desrtkennethlove; can you access http://localhost/ from your ubuntu box?04:44
kennethloveit's set right in the router04:44
jordanaustas, hi04:44
stascan I use macromedia flash on my ubuntu?04:44
jordanaustas, yes04:44
stasI can't install it :|04:44
desrtstas; add universe/multiverse and apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree04:44
D_FWhy won't Teamspeak work? :(   It worked on other Debian-based distros fine! :(04:44
stasI have AMD64 though..04:44
desrtoh.04:44
stasit refuses to install04:44
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desrtno flash player for amd6404:44
desrtmacromedia doesn't release one04:45
stassame with cedega04:45
frankstas: it can only work through a chroot04:45
kennethloveyeah, desrt, localhost is a go04:45
frankstas: AFAIK04:45
desrtkennethlove; either your ISP blocks web or your router does04:45
stasI saw a how-to for a 32-bit chroot04:45
chadteamspeak works fine for me on 5.04...04:45
stasbut it's like 4 pages long04:45
desrtlots of ISPs block web... mine does04:45
frankThere is one on the forum04:45
kennethloveswitching to 8080 should fix it, right?04:45
staswould it be easier to just scrap this and install the i386 version of ubuntu04:45
stas?04:45
desrtprobably04:45
kennethlovek. i'll try that then04:45
Plukflash works but you need a 32bit chroot04:45
frankstas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457504:46
kennethlovethanks for the suggestion04:46
stasyeah heh I saw that04:46
desrtyou don't need to switch to 8080 on the inside04:46
D_Fchad: I have no idea why it will not work!04:46
desrtjust change the port forward setup on your router04:46
stasit's kind of daunting04:46
staswhat if I screw up somewhere? ;p04:46
kennethlovei don't need to change apache?04:46
desrtno04:46
frankstas: it would be easier for this and also for alot of video files04:46
desrtyour router almost definitely will allow you to forward port 8080 to port 80 on your inside machine04:46
dukenanyboy have documentation about squid server ??04:46
D_Fchad: All I did was install it, but when I run "TeamSpeak", it just will not start!04:46
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desrtso you can leave apache alone04:47
kennethloveoh yeah. thanks again04:47
desrtnp04:47
stasfrank, so what do you suggest04:48
dukenanybody have documentation about squid server ??04:48
stasdo I stick to amd6404:48
desrtstas; install 32bit04:48
stashmm04:48
desrtstas; there's no real point to running amd64, seriously04:48
stasam I sacrificing anything by ditching the amd64 version?04:48
Cugafor the life of me i can't get a stable GL app working, 10 secs and hang system04:48
desrtyour l33tness04:48
Plukindeed :)04:48
staslol not much of that to start with ;p04:48
D_Fchad: What did you do when you installed TeamSpeak? I just cannot make it work for some reason :S04:48
desrtamd64 is l33t :)04:49
Plukbut the howtoin franks link works great04:49
desrtjust go 32... everything runs a lot nicer at the time being04:49
stasffs it'll be another 45 minutes until the image finishes downloading!04:49
desrtget a cablemodem while you're at it :)04:49
stazichhey guys does anyone know the chatroom of yellow dog linux?04:49
tsume_:)04:49
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tsume_I'm going to be switching a few windows boxes to linux, yay04:49
desrttsume_; use gentoo.  it rocks.04:50
desrt:)04:50
tsume_desrt: gentoo sucks04:50
tsume_bigtime04:50
desrt:(04:50
tsume_binary packages are the _only_ way to go04:50
desrtwell04:50
stas>stas< CTCP VERSION04:50
stas* Received a CTCP VERSION from stas04:50
stas-stas- VERSION xchat 2.4.1 Linux 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic [x86_64/1.01GHz] 04:50
tsume_and deb has proved worthy :)04:50
desrtcertainly, ubuntu makes a much better windows replacement than gentoo does04:50
stascan I maybe prevent xchat from telling my life story04:50
stason a version request?04:50
tsume_desrt: it makes a good any replacement04:50
desrtstas; ignore ctcp version requests04:51
tsume_desrt: I use ubuntu -unstable to keep up with updated software ;)04:51
stasoh04:51
stashow04:51
kennethlovedesrt: 8080 doesn't seem to have changed anything04:51
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desrtkennethlove; sucks :(04:51
kennethloveyeah...04:51
desrtkennethlove; are you sure your router isn't in 'stealth mode' or something?04:51
kennethlovepretty sure, yeah04:51
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desrthmm04:52
tsume_version me ;)04:52
stasarf04:52
desrtcute :)04:52
kennethlovedesrt: ok. something that might be fucking it up. the linux box is connected to the net through my ibook....04:52
stasI quit by accident\04:52
Pluklol04:52
desrtuhm.04:52
stashow do I block VERSION requests? ;p04:52
kennethloveso instead of 192.168.0.102 or something, it's 192.168.2.404:52
desrtso like, nat twice?04:52
desrtlike through the router and through the ibook and then to the linux box?04:53
D_FCan anyone help me get Teamspeak client working? :)04:53
tsume_stas: mmm its in the menu for xchat04:53
kennethloveyeah04:53
desrtomg.  you gotta be kidding04:53
desrtthat would definitely do it, ya :P04:53
kennethloveheh. nope.04:53
kennethloveany ideas for how to get around it?04:53
desrtis the ibook nat or is it a router?04:53
kennethloveuh....04:53
kennethloveno idea. i've set it to share net connections and it's not running a firewall04:54
desrtcan hosts on the outside network connect directly to your ubuntu box?04:54
desrtah04:54
desrt'share net connection' == nat04:54
kennethloveno, i don't believe so.04:54
kennethlovek04:54
desrtyou also need to setup a forward on the ibook then04:54
desrtand set the router to forward the connection to the ibook04:54
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desrtand the ibook to forward to the ubuntu box04:54
desrtmay i ask *why* your network setup is so whacked out? :)04:55
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kennethlovealright. sounds doable.04:55
kennethlovesure.04:55
desrtrouter <-wireless-> ibook <-wired-> ubuntu?04:55
kennethloveexactly04:55
desrtya.  that's a pretty cool setup04:55
desrti've done that before :)04:55
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kennethloveworks pretty damn well so far....'scept for this04:55
desrti used to own a beautiful 12" ibook G404:55
holycowbtw, my info on oo.o printing at 1/4 page was wrong04:55
desrtbut it since has been replaced with a 15" powerbook04:56
kennethloveyeah, i'm running a 12" g404:56
holycowthe solution turns out to be to set the correct dpi setting for your print in system/admin/priting04:56
desrt800 or 1.2?04:56
kennethlove1.204:56
desrtnice04:56
desrtmine was a 80004:56
kennethloveyeah. quality machines04:56
desrtthen work bought me a powerbook04:56
holycowif the default for printer is 600dpi and you put in 300, it will print at 1/4 size naturally04:56
desrtso i sold it :P04:56
holycowjust a heads up if anyone cares04:56
kennethloveheh. don't blame you04:56
desrti wish i had the ibook04:56
kennethloveany ideas on how to route this?04:56
desrtlaptop  using osx?04:56
kennethloveuse the money to buy a mini. :)04:57
kennethloveyeah04:57
desrtwell.  obviously.04:57
desrtsince wifi doesn't work in linux04:57
kennethlovethat's something else i want to fix someday. :)04:57
desrtthere ought to be something in the network control panel04:57
kennethlovelinux box has a wifi card.04:57
desrtlots of people want to fix that04:57
desrtairport extreme on linux, that is04:57
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kennethlovecan't come soon enough04:57
thelsdjso who saw last nights episode of veronica mars? :)04:58
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kennethloveyeah. i need to get a d-link card running04:58
desrtis it one of those stupid 'double speed' ones?04:58
thelsdjhere's transcript for whoever missed it: http://thelsdj.org/veronica-ubuntu04:58
jordanauthelsdj, no but LOST was a rerun...04:58
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kennethlovedesrt: uh. not sure. dwl-g51004:58
Primal79hola04:58
thelsdjyou know you've become popular when you're mentioned on network television teen drama :)04:58
kennethlovedesrt: k. i'm in the network control panel...04:59
desrtthe goodnews is it's 54mbit04:59
desrtinstead of some crackrock 108mbit04:59
kennethloveyeah. got a good deal on it, too. something like $20 new05:00
desrtsweet05:00
desrtyou can get it working in ubuntu with ndiswrapper05:00
kennethlovereally? there's tomorrow then. :)05:00
desrtheh05:00
jordanauanybody have experience with the canon A95 digital camera , want to buy one soon05:01
desrtg510.. weird05:01
desrtsee here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards05:01
desrtit's not on the list, but a lot of cards with very similar product numbers are05:01
kennethloveyeah, i noticed that a couple of days ago.05:01
a_peckthelsdj, what shw is that from?05:02
a_peckshow*05:02
Burgundaviadesrt, sometimes they change wireless chipsets through minor version changes05:02
thelsdja_peck: veronica mars05:02
thelsdjbest show on tv this season05:02
desrtBurgundavia; ya.  i know.  it's an evil practise :(05:02
kennethlovedesrt: well, if it can get online through that, i won't worry about this port forwarding. can you help Primal79, though? he has problems with dyndns too (friend of mine) but without the crazy setup05:03
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Primal79just let me know what i should tell you...05:03
chillywillyanyone ever use ooo2dbk (OpenOffice.org to Docbook converter) and have an idea of how to author a document in OOo 1.1.x so that it converts?05:04
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FazerHi, can anyone help me with the Live CD?05:04
etzerdhello eveeryone05:04
jordanauhey ezterd05:04
FazerIt works fine but I can't access the internet.05:04
FazerI mean, my PCMCIA card is blinking and everything05:05
etzerdHi  Jordanau05:05
Fazerand I can get the IP address and what not05:05
kennethlovefazer - obviously you can since you're in irc. :)05:05
etzerdI want to know how to install real player05:05
desrtPrimal79; uh.  what's wrong? :P05:05
Primal79i had the same probs fazer05:05
Fazerkennethlove: Uh, I booted back to XP05:05
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desrtetzerd; go to real.com and download it05:05
FazerPrimal79: I hope it isn't a driver issue?05:05
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desrtetzerd; then save it to your home directory05:06
kennethlovefrazer - oh. you'll probably have better luck with the install CD since the live CD can only do so much probing and configuring with your system.05:06
desrtetzerd; then open a terminal and type this:05:06
desrtchmod +x RealLinuxGold10Whatever05:06
desrtsudo ./RealLinuxGold10Whatever05:06
SiRrUshello05:06
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jordanauetzerd, i hate realplayer05:06
desrtwhen it asks you where to install it, say /opt/real05:06
shad0w1ehow do I update my warty to hoary ??05:06
Primal79kennethlove can't seem to connect to my computer even though i've set up firestarter, apache, forwarded ports 80, 8080, and 2205:06
desrtother than that, i think the defaults are good05:06
jordanauetzerd, just thought i would tell you...05:06
etzerdJordanau: I have Mplayer05:07
Primal79fazer: no installed using install cd and all works well05:07
Fazerkennethlove: Hmm, what I don't understand is that if the PCMCIA network card is blinking and what not, I just can't seem to connect to anything, not evne IRC via the Live CD...what makes you sure that it will work once I have installed it?05:07
jordanauetzerd, i like it do you?05:07
FazerPrimal79: Ah, shits.05:07
kennethlovefazer - worked for primal.05:07
Fazerkennethlove: Yeah I just saw :P05:07
etzerdMplayer? hell no05:07
kennethloveheh05:07
shad0w1eI upgraded my ubuntu 4.10 by changed my sources.lst and getting kubuntu. but my kernel is still old. whats the best way to update everything at once ??05:07
desrtetzerd; find it?05:07
Fazermy current HD is partitioned in NTFS.  I guess it will automatically convert it to ext3?05:07
etzerddesrt: what should I type05:08
desrti just told you what to type05:08
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etzerdI'm on the website05:08
desrtdownload it05:08
desrthttp://www.real.com/05:08
kennethlovefazer - you'll tell it to during the install05:08
linuxpoetHow does one increase the shmmax on ubuntu?05:08
etzerdI know how to download it.05:08
desrtbig button says "download realplayer"05:08
etzerdjust give me the command05:08
Fazerkennethlove: Ah, okay.05:08
desrti already did05:08
Riddellsjoerd: apt-get install linux-68605:08
desrtscroll up05:08
FazerPrimal79: Did this happen on your Laptop?05:08
Riddellsjoerd: apt-get install linux-686 kubuntu-desktop05:08
Primal79on a desktop05:08
Primal79any suggestions, desrt?05:09
shad0w1ehow do I update everything using apt ?05:09
Fazeroh man, i am scared =(05:09
desrtshad0w1e; apt-get update05:09
CarlKhow can I tell what the .config looked like that buil the stock kernel?05:09
desrtshad0w1e; followed by apt-get upgrade05:09
linuxpoetapt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade05:09
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shad0w1edesrt: thanks. will that update my kernel too?05:09
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desrtshad0w1e; if there is a new one available, yes05:09
desrtshad0w1e; doing dist-upgrade like linuxpoet said might potentially upgrade more stuff, so you should do that05:10
dataw0lfHello gents.05:10
shad0w1ethere sure as hell is. I'm using 2.6.8.105:10
linuxpoetHow can I set my shmmax for Ubuntu... redhat uses /etc/sysctl.conf05:10
desrtshad0w1e; ow :)05:10
linuxpoetoh looks like we do to05:10
shad0w1eman linux is nuts05:10
desrtlinuxpoet; so does ubuntu05:10
shad0w1eevery week ther's HUGE updates!!05:10
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desrtshad0w1e; that's stopped happening now05:10
kennethloveshad0w1e: yeah, but they're not security patches. :)05:10
shad0w1eI just installed my ubuntu system maybe a month ago05:10
dataw0lfOnly because Hoary just came out.05:10
desrtshad0w1e; hoary is frozen now.  only security updates from now on05:10
Primal79kenneth: what's the best way to explain the situation to desrt?05:10
shad0w1eoh I know05:11
shad0w1ehoary just became final05:11
linuxpoetahhh much better05:11
darkxshad0w1e, would you prefer windows updates?05:11
shad0w1eHELL NO!05:11
desrtPrimal79; kenneth is trying to connect to you?05:11
darkx^^05:11
Primal79yes05:11
shad0w1eno this is cool. its just that if i dont keep on top, people freak out by how old my system is05:11
shad0w1eu know..05:11
desrtPrimal79; and you're using ubuntu and a home router?05:11
Burgundaviashad0w1e, at least most linux updates to stable systems don't break the system05:11
Primal79yes, and using dyndns05:11
shad0w1edef.05:11
desrtPrimal79; what is your dyndns name?05:11
dataw0lfdyndns?05:11
Primal79rayandamy.dyndns.org05:11
dataw0lfpeople still use that?05:12
darkxBurgundavia, and linux patches etc tend to not introduce 10 times more exploits and bugs than they originally fixed ^^05:12
Fazeralright folks05:12
FazerI am going to go install Ubuntu now05:12
Fazerkeyword: install05:12
Fazerwish me luck =(05:12
etzerddesrt: I'm done download realplayer05:12
kennethloveg'luck05:12
darkxgood luck05:12
hypnohow does ubuntu handle the transition between releases? Don't users have to change their apt.sources and run a dist-upgrade?05:12
Fazeri hope my PCMCIA works05:12
dataw0lfhit up the forums if you need help.05:12
darkxenjoy :-05:12
darkxD05:12
shad0w1emy sources.list still says warty. should I change that ?05:12
Fazerhehe05:12
etzerdwhat's the command now?05:12
dataw0lfhypno: sources.list, but yeah.05:12
darkxhypno, basically05:12
shad0w1eI mean by the title05:13
desrtshad0w1e; ya :)05:13
shad0w1enot by..05:13
shad0w1eby deb:cdrom05:13
desrtshad0w1e; i think there is a wikipage on upgrading from warty to hoary05:13
dataw0lfeh, it's pretty easy.05:13
shad0w1eits sort of done..05:13
darkxhypno, synaptic tends to help it be a more user friendly process05:13
geneo93anyone got time to help me with my scanner05:13
desrtPrimal79; just poking at you right now :)05:13
dataw0lfs/warty/hoary/g in sources.list, and apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade05:13
etzerdsesrt: don't forget to give me the command for realplayer05:13
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desrtPrimal79; you don't need to install any firewall software05:13
shad0w1ewow05:14
shad0w1e613 packages05:14
Primal79so no firestarter?05:14
AgentQi did it the way dataw0lf said and it worked nice and easy05:14
desrtPrimal79; wow.  your ISP filters a *lot* of ports05:14
Primal79cox...05:14
pestilencegeneo93: just ask05:14
Primal79there goes fazer05:14
desrt21, 22, 23, 25, 80, 135-139, 445, 1080, 1433, 6588, 8080, 27374/tcp05:14
dataw0lfMine actually broke when I dist-upgraded to Hoary, but with a bit of dpkg --force-overwrite magics, all was well in dataw0lf kingdom.05:14
Primal79all blocked?05:14
desrtso both 8080 and 80 are blocked.  and 2205:15
dataw0lfthat's because I have a highly tweaked system, though.05:15
shad0w1efinally my drives are mounting in kde as well. yay to that05:15
shad0w1e(automounting)05:15
AgentQi'd heard some bad stories about the upgrade, but it went fine for me05:15
Primal79how can 80 be blocked?05:15
desrtincoming05:15
desrtyou can only make outgoing connections on it05:15
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dataw0lfeh, there's nothing unfixable with the dist-upgrade.05:15
geneo93well i have an epson 1250 photo and sane finds it but wants to use bt87805:15
dataw0lfthe Ubuntu team did a good job.05:15
Primal79i can't open it on my router?05:15
AgentQthat was my experience with debian as well05:15
pestilencegeneo93: bt878 is a tv tuner, do you have one of those too?05:15
geneo93yes05:15
dataw0lfAgentQ: yeah.  It's better than the equivalent in most rpm based distros, though.05:15
Primal79err... actually that's just forwarding05:16
geneo93pestilence:  with fm radio as well05:16
AgentQyou bet...i just flat won't use rpm distros anymore05:16
pestilencegeneo93: so, scanimage -l finds your scanner?05:16
geneo93no05:16
desrtPrimal79; no.  basically, your ISP are facists :)05:16
dataw0lfAgentQ: Eh.  I have to take care of about 10 RH servers at work.05:16
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pestilencegeneo93: well, then sane isn't seeing your scanner :)05:16
Primal79desrt: any suggestions on a port to try then?05:16
FazerHi, btw.  Does the Live CD not support USB mice?05:16
kennethlovedesrt - that's my isp also, btw. :)05:17
shad0w1eafter I update to hoary will I have a splash (startup) screen ?05:17
desrtPrimal79; 81? 8888?05:17
dataw0lfAnd a dozen or so Tru64 workstations, and three or four Tru64 servers.  Those are even worse.05:17
desrtPrimal79; as i told kennethlove, you don't need to reconfigure apache05:17
geneo93scanimage: option requires an argument -- l05:17
AgentQdataw0lf: i'm just a graduate student in chemistry, i play with computers on the side05:17
desrtjust change the external port number to 888805:17
dataw0lfshad0wle: a grub splash screen?05:17
desrtso that it bounces 8888 to 80 internal05:17
shad0w1eno05:17
shad0w1eafter grub05:17
dataw0lfAgentQ: Ah, I'm a lead system administrator.05:17
Primal79let me try that then...05:17
pestilencegeneo93: huh?05:17
dataw0lfshad0w1e: yeah05:17
Primal79wait. bounces?05:17
geneo93that was to output05:18
pestilencegeneo93: what about -L05:18
shad0w1edataw0lf: great, thanks!05:18
dataw0lfshad0w1e: np.05:18
FazerWill my USB mouse work fine with a Hoary install? Since it doesnt work on the LIve CD05:18
FazerIts a 3 button mouse with a scroll wheel05:18
pestilencesorry.05:18
Primal79desrt: no sure how to do that05:18
geneo93device `v4l:/dev/video0' is a Noname BT878 video (Hauppauge (bt878)05:18
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dataw0lfFazer: yeah, it should.05:18
desrtPrimal79; it'll be in your router web setup page05:18
pestilencegeneo93: and that's the only thing it shows?05:18
geneo93yup05:18
Fazerhmmm05:18
geneo93sane find scanner finds it though05:19
shad0w1ehow to I delete all my downloaded packages ? where are they stored?05:19
dataw0lfFazer: I have a usb MX1000 laser logitech, if that works, anything will.05:19
Fazerdataw0lf: Heh, did it work on the Live CD?05:19
Primal79is it triggering and forwarding?05:19
dataw0lfshad0w1e: /var/apt/cache05:19
shad0w1edataw0lf: thanks05:19
dataw0lfFazer: I've only used the live cd on my laptop once.05:19
dataw0lfon which my mx1000 wasn't hooked up.05:20
dataw0lfSo I can't say for sure.05:20
Fazerdataw0lf: Oh =(05:20
FazerBah, I guess its install time then.05:20
geneo93found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8, product=0x010f, chip=LM983x?) at libusb:001:00205:20
pestilencegeneo93: what do you mean, sane finds it?  sane-find-scanner does?05:20
dataw0lfshad0w1e: eh, I mean /var/cache/apt05:20
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dataw0lfsorry about that.05:20
dataw0lf<-- exhausted.05:20
AgentQdataw0lf: i do have to maintain the army of pcs in my research group, but they're pretty much all windows boxes...blech05:20
shad0w1egotit05:20
Fazerinstallation time, laters everyone.05:20
geneo93pestilence:  only as root though05:21
dataw0lfAgentQ: yeah, we have about 20 or so W2k machines, that we auth with OpenLDAP + NIS05:21
Primal79anyone know how to bounce port numbers on a router?05:21
dataw0lfthat's a pain, let me tell yah.05:21
desrtPrimal79; are you in your web admin for the router?05:21
shad0w1ehas ubuntu announced a new (beta) version yet ?05:21
Primal79yes05:21
dataw0lfbreezy05:21
desrtPrimal79; what brand of router?05:21
shad0w1eit's called breezy?05:22
dataw0lfIndeed.05:22
pestilencegeneo93: ah.  perhaps you need to change permissions on the scanner device05:22
Primal79linksys05:22
shad0w1ejust plain breezy? not like breezy brozedog, or something?05:22
desrtok05:22
desrtunder "applications & gaming"05:22
dataw0lfBreezy Badger, shad0w1e05:22
desrtyou should see "port forward range"05:22
geneo93pestilence:  how if it dont show05:22
shad0w1eheh heh, i knew it05:22
dottedquaduhm is it possible to run kde on ubuntu?05:22
chillywillybah05:22
shad0w1eyes05:22
desrtapplication, start, end, protocol, ip address, enable05:22
shad0w1eim doing it05:22
dataw0lfdottedquad: KUbuntu05:22
desrtapplication doesn't matter.. it's just a description.. put "web"05:22
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Primal79oh that's bouncing?05:23
desrtya05:23
Primal79i just hadn't heard that term05:23
Primal79i'm sorry05:23
desrtah.  linksys is evil05:23
dottedquaddataw0of: is that the command?05:23
chillywillycan't find any info in english on how to author OOo documents that you want to convert to docbook cml with ooo2dbk05:23
dataw0lfdottedquad: and if you're on the default Gnome Ubuntu, for lack of a better term, I believe you can just apt-get install kde-desktop, if I'm not mistaken05:23
desrtit doesn't let you forward from one port to another05:23
chillywillys/cml/xml/05:23
dottedquadalright05:23
desrtyou have to keep the numbers the same05:23
shad0w1edottedquad: either get the kde package or the kubuntu package. kubuntu will work better esp. if youre looking to make kde your default.05:23
desrtPrimal79; another option is open to you05:23
smouchekubuntu-desktop, I think, dataw0lf05:23
desrtPrimal79; you can forward all ports05:24
dataw0lfsmouche: ah, thanks.05:24
shad0w1ealso if youre switching be sure to select kdm as your default display manager, NOT GDM05:24
desrtit's called "dmz host"05:24
dataw0lfI wouldn't touch KDE with a 10 ft pole ;)05:24
shad0w1ereally? KDE runs faster than GNOME.05:24
yyc747the synaptic repository screen is nothing like described in the wiki... can someone help me add universe?05:24
smouchenew kde is excellent.05:24
dataw0lfshad0w1e: that's a subject of much dispute.05:24
dataw0lfAnd I don't run Gnome either.05:24
shad0w1eKDE looks so cluttered, its got so much more stuff, YET it still runs a lot faster05:24
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desrtyyc747; do you know how to use vi?05:24
dottedquadarg05:24
smoucheeasy enough to unclutter kde.05:25
shad0w1ethere's no dispute about which one is faster. there may be a dispute about which is better05:25
AgentQso what do you run, dataw0lf?05:25
dottedquadi'm guessing konsole is a KDE thing?05:25
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shad0w1efluxbox!05:25
kennethlovewhoooo. computer blew up05:25
desrtkennethlove; smoke?05:25
dataw0lfxfce4, although I'm thinking of switching back to xfce3 because of the Gnome crap in xfce405:25
kennethloveheh. no.05:25
AgentQah, i used to run that on my old laptop05:25
smouchedottedquad, kde is krazy about k's05:25
dataw0lfI use fluxbox at work.05:25
dottedquadlol ok05:25
kennethlovejust a crazy graphic on the desktop, everything went black05:25
smoucheI like konsole.05:25
sKarnageafternoon all05:25
AgentQi like gnome on my desktop though05:25
yyc747desrt: I know how to use vi, but I don't want to really.  I would prefer there to be a way in synaptic05:25
shad0w1eI couldnt figure out how to use the xfce bar on bottom05:25
geneo93pestilence:  did i miss something05:25
dottedquadso where is the command prompt?  if that's what you wanna call it?05:26
desrtyyc747; how about gedit? :)05:26
sKarnagei'm fairly n00b to Ubuntu and need some help05:26
dataw0lfyyc747: it's pretty self explanatory.05:26
dataw0lfsKarnage: shoot.05:26
sKarnagecheers05:26
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dataw0lfcheers, what's your question?05:26
sKarnageok, first of all ... how do i get icons on the desktop first of all05:26
etzerddesrt: I'm still waiting on the command how to install RealPlayer05:26
shad0w1eoh shucks. I was using a wifi card with ndiswrapper. is it possible that with the kernel upgrade itll be supported natively and I can get rid of ndiswrapper ?05:26
desrtetzerd; i gave it to you half an hour ago05:26
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kennethlovedesrt - think you can help me with samba/nfs/netatalk?05:26
pestilencegeneo93: no, i'm not sure what to do.  i think you might need to edit the sane configurations to tell it your scanner is at libusb:001:00205:26
etzerdno05:26
etzerdyou told me to download it05:26
dataw0lfI'm taking a break from the forums because people there sometimes... make me want to ram a gun into my mouth and pull the trigger.05:26
etzerdput it on the home directory05:27
desrtetzerd; yes.  you can scroll up and read about it or not.  your choice.05:27
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geneo93ok leme look05:27
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jordanaushad0w1e, no05:27
Primal79i must have dropped off05:27
dataw0lfsKarnage: icons on the actual desktop?05:27
desrtkennethlove; not really.05:27
dataw0lfuse Nautilus.05:27
desrtkennethlove; i've never used these things with ubuntu05:27
shad0w1ejordanau: there were NO wifi cards added to the newer kernel? Im upgrading from 2.6.805:27
kennethlovedesrt: oh. :) ok.05:27
dataw0lfor are you talking about the taskbars, etc.05:27
Primal79desrt: go to  the dmz tab and enable dmz?05:27
sKarnagelike i did it on a previous install but can't remember ... to get like the wastebasket, home directory and the 'my computer'-alike there ... Nautilus, that's what i thought, ok there's one down >:o)05:27
desrtPrimal79; and put in the IP address of your ubuntu box05:27
pestilencegeneo93: try putting it in /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf05:27
AgentQthe only thing i don't like about natilus is the spatial thing turned on by default...not a fan of that05:27
dataw0lfAgentQ: agreed.05:28
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pestilencegeneo93: device libusb:001:00205:28
Primal79desrt: is that a smart thing to do?05:28
dataw0lfI don't use a file browser, if I can help it.05:28
etzerdthen desrt: I just scroll all the way up. the last thing you told me was  "find it?"05:28
desrtPrimal79; it exposes your box to the net.  ubuntu is pretty secure though05:28
shad0w1ewhen I changed the spatial thing. it was no longer nautilus. it became panel. i think.05:28
dataw0lfrelatively.05:28
geneo93pestilence:  there is no conf. files05:28
dataw0lfAnd Ubuntu is only as secure as you make it.05:28
Primal79well then, try it kenneth05:28
desrtetzerd; keep scrolling to right after you asked your question05:28
kennethlovegimme a sec05:29
pestilencegeneo93: there's nothing in /etc/sane.d ?05:29
sKarnagenow one i've been working on all morning ... i'm trying to install Menuedit but it said i need Python 2.4 (2.3 is the latest in Synaptic) so I downloaded and installed Python 2.4 and then went to install that but it wanted a c++ compiler so i went and installed that and python installed but menuedit still won't install because of python2.4 dependencies05:29
dataw0lfalthough the default hosts.* is a good touch.05:29
geneo93only all theee modules05:29
dataw0lfsKarnage: want to priv me the exact errors?05:29
desrtyyc747; still need help?05:29
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pestilencegeneo93: that's strange.05:30
dataw0lfone sec, cigarette.05:30
kennethloveno go, primal05:30
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Primal79ok i see two inbound05:30
geneo93just a bunch of diff brands of scanners05:30
shad0w1eok thanks a lot people, I'm off05:30
Al2O3anybody here know of a public DNS IP that I can use, my DHCP supplied's are dead.05:30
pestilencegeneo93: do you have libsane installed?05:30
Primal79i see two blocked connections05:31
yyc747desrt: nah... i did vi05:31
desrtyyc747; :)05:31
Primal79three blocked now05:31
geneo93should have05:31
desrtPrimal79; from my scan, you should be able to use anything that's not:05:31
amonkeyi just made a shell script that opens up 4chan when i type intarbutt in the console. anyone else look at 4chan?05:31
desrt21, 22, 23, 25, 80, 135-139, 445, 1080, 1433, 6588, 8080, 2737405:32
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] BreliC[does ubuntu come with a tmp dir cleanup cron script?05:32
pestilencegeneo93: well, /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf is in the package libsane on hoary05:32
sKarnageok i'll just need to write them down off the other computer and then send to you, cheers for this mate05:32
Primal79i forwarded 8888 and 8105:32
desrt] BreliC[; such a thing would be a very bad idea05:32
] BreliC[desrt, why?05:32
geneo93libsane is already the newest version.05:32
desrt] BreliC[; you can't erase files in /tmp at random times05:32
etzerdand everytime you chat to me it appear in red05:32
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desrtsomething might be using them05:32
Primal79who is 24.215.14.137?05:32
desrtPrimal79; me05:32
etzerdwell thanks anyway05:32
pestilencegeneo93: so, there is no /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf?05:32
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FazerDamn it05:33
geneo93yes05:33
] BreliC[desrt, hmm, i thought i've seen some before that erase files that are 7 days or older05:33
Primal79it shows you getting blocked05:33
makhey, anyone know of a good step-by-step howto for setting up a mail server?05:33
FazerI can't autoconfigure my netwotk card with the DHCP05:33
FazerPrimal79: Did it autoconfigure your network DHCP settings on the installer?05:33
pestilencegeneo93: don't know what to tell you.  you could create it.05:33
Fazer"Network autoconfiguration failed"05:33
Primal79yeah it autoconfigured. and all this blocking i'm seeing is in firestarter05:33
pestilencegeneo93: it really should be there.  it's in both warty and hoary05:33
] BreliC[desrt, what is the best way to clean out /tmp then?05:34
desrt22:05 < desrt> etzerd; go to real.com and download it05:34
geneo93well i can copy the conf. file from mandrake05:34
desrt22:06 < desrt> etzerd; then save it to your home directory05:34
desrt22:06 < desrt> etzerd; then open a terminal and type this:05:34
FazerPrimal79: What do you mean?05:34
desrt22:06 < desrt> chmod +x RealLinuxGold10Whatever05:34
desrt22:06 < desrt> sudo ./RealLinuxGold10Whatever05:34
desrt22:06 < desrt> when it asks you where to install it, say /opt/real05:34
desrt22:06 < desrt> other than that, i think the defaults are good05:34
desrtargh!05:34
desrtand he leaves05:34
Primal79fazer, it's not for you.05:34
desrt] BreliC[; on reboot05:34
Fazermhmm05:34
pestilencegeneo93: you could try "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install --reinstall libsane"05:34
Fazerthis is so fustrating05:34
Fazeri can see the damn card blinking05:34
Fazerand the modem card being active and shit05:34
] BreliC[desrt, does it do it automatically?  if not, where should i put a script?05:35
Fazerbut it can't autoconfigure05:35
Fazerso, this isn't making much sense.05:35
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geneo93pestilence:  when i installed warty i didn't have scanner pluged in05:35
desrt] BreliC[; honestly, i don't know.  i haven't an ubuntu user for long05:35
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Fazercan anyone help?05:35
pestilencegeneo93: it doesn't matter.05:35
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dottedquadi can't remember if the ubuntu installation configuration asked for me to set an admin password or not? Does it?05:35
] BreliC[desrt, ok, thanks.05:35
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desrt] BreliC[; take a look at /etc/init.d/bootclean.sh05:35
HrdwrBoBdottedquad: it did not05:35
dottedquadok thought so05:36
] BreliC[thanks05:36
HrdwrBoBdottedquad: the 'admin' password is your password05:36
pestilenceFazer: what happens when you type "iwconfig"05:36
dottedquadok05:36
Primal79desrt: okay i stopped firestarter firewall. would that make a difference?05:36
Fazerpestilence: This is at the installation screen05:36
dottedquadi typed in su05:36
dottedquadasked for my password and typed in admin05:36
desrtPrimal79; i'm not sure what state it would leave your machine in05:36
dottedquadand password is incorrect05:36
nessmukafter running hoary, I tried looking at some other window managers, but lost my firefox bookmarks.05:36
pestilenceFazer: do you really need the network for install?  you don't have the cd?05:37
Primal79so turn it back on?05:37
desrtwell05:37
nessmukAre they retrievable, or should I have saved them first?05:37
desrtdo you have another computer at home?05:37
desrtactually, first thing first05:37
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Fazerpestilence: No no, I have the CD.  But when it tries to autoconfig the DHCP, it fails.  So I am guessing that it doesn't support my PCMCIA network card?05:37
desrton the ubuntu box, try http://localhost:8888/05:37
desrtwhat does that say?05:37
Primal79a windows machine, but heck if i can get samba to work! :)05:37
pestilenceFazer: is it a wireless card?05:37
Fazerpestilence: Nope, ethernet05:37
pestilenceFazer: oh.05:38
Fazerconnected directly to my Cable box05:38
Primal79connection refused05:38
pestilenceFazer: and you use DHCP in windows?05:38
desrtPrimal79; did you setup apache for port 8888?05:38
kennethlovewhy the fuck can't i connect through samba05:38
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Primal79no, i don't think i did any setup for apache05:38
desrtok.05:38
Fazerpestilence: Hmm, not sure how I am connected, do you know how I can make sure?05:38
dottedquadalright theh admin password is def not admin cause it's not working.. so what now?05:38
desrtapache is installed right?05:38
Primal79yes05:38
desrtit's on port 80 by default05:39
desrtyou want to change it to 888805:39
desrtor 8105:39
pestilenceFazer: i'm not sure if "ipconfig" from a command prompt in windows would tell you05:39
desrtedit your apache config file, which is very likely located in /etc/apache/httpd.conf05:39
desrt(but i don't know for sure since i've never installed apache on ubuntu)05:39
kennethlovegrowl! it connects but i can't write.05:39
kennethloveit's set to read/write05:39
geneo93pestilence:  it'll be awhile dun here05:39
Fazerpestilence: It says "Assigned by DHCP"05:39
Fazerthe fucking funny thing is05:39
Fazerin the Live CD05:39
desrtkennethlove; when you set a share read/write it does so on the condition of you connecting as a user with permission to write to the directory05:39
Fazeri have to enable the eth0 shit05:39
Fazerand then I can see it give me an IP address05:40
Fazerbut I can't connect to anything!05:40
kennethlovedesrt - yeah, i think it is.05:40
desrtfor example, if you want to write to your home directory, you have to login with your user/password (ie: not anonymous)05:40
desrtif you want to write to /usr or something, nobody can do that :)05:40
pestilenceFazer: what's your card05:40
Fazerpestilence: Its a Dynex05:40
kennethlovei'm pretty sure it's set up like that....how can i check?05:41
desrtdid windows ask you for a password?05:41
pestilenceFazer: model?05:41
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kennethlovewindows? :)05:41
desrtoh05:41
stashi05:41
desrtsamba with ibook?05:41
kennethloveyeah05:41
staswhat package should I use05:41
stasto burn ISOs?05:41
kennethlovesince i can't get netatalk to work05:41
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desrtheh.  i have no idea how that works :)05:41
stassomething to replace nero and alcohol 12005:41
Primal79desrt: change the listen port?05:41
desrtPrimal79; exactly.05:41
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Primal79i see listen 300005:42
Primal79and Listen 12.34.56.78:8005:42
Fazerpestilence: Heh, hmm let me see if I can peek through because I would have to remove the card to see05:42
desrtput "Listen 8888"05:42
desrt:q05:42
niranhttp://www.stanford.edu/~niran/ubuntu.mpeg05:42
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Primal79in addition or overwrite?05:42
df__I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 5.04, and Teamspeak just will not start!05:43
desrtshould be able to do in addition05:43
desrtbut overwrite is fine05:43
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Primal79they're all commented out right now... uncomment them?05:43
Primal79# is commented out right?05:43
desrtjust add one of your own05:43
desrtListen 888805:43
desrtyes.05:43
sKarnageok, dataw0lf incoming05:43
D_FI love Ubuntu, but I'm not going to use it without working Teamspeak.05:44
Primal79how do i open it so i can write to it? right now it's read only05:44
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desrtPrimal79; what text editor do you use?05:45
Primal79i just found it going to places, computer, filesystem, etc.05:45
desrtoh, ok05:45
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Primal79gedit?05:45
desrthit alt+f2 and a box will come up, type exactly this into it:05:46
desrtgksudo gedit "/etc/apache/httpd.conf"05:46
desrtER.  no.  sorry05:46
desrtthis one:05:46
Fazerpestilence: Its a Dynex DX E20105:46
desrtgksudo "gedit /etc/apache/httpd.conf"05:46
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jordanauniran, is that advertisinG?05:46
smouchedesrt, what does the "gk" before sudo do?05:46
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darGorhi. I installed ubuntu, but latest linux distros i used i were connected with dialup. now im with adsl and i installed ubuntu; but i cant connect to inet. im in windows now05:46
desrtsmouche; presents you with a graphical gtk dialog box for your password05:46
Primal79there we go. i can write to it now. thx05:46
darGorhow to configure adsl? it's an ethernet modem05:46
D_FBye bye Ubuntu...05:47
desrtD_F; see ya05:47
pestilenceFazer: are you still on the install screen?05:47
niranjordanau, it's a clip from a tv show05:47
smoucheI see, desrt. thanks05:47
frankdarGor:  pppoe?05:47
Fazerpestilence: No, I booted back to XP =(05:47
D_Fdesrt: Well really! I can't believe Teamspeak won't work!05:47
desrtD_F; google around.  obviously nobody here can help you05:47
desrti haven't even heard of teamspeak.05:47
staswhat package should I use05:47
stasto burn ISOs?05:47
D_Fdesrt: It's worked in every other distro, and someone said they had it working too.05:47
stassomething to replace nero and alcohol 12005:47
darGorfrank: yeah, i used kppp with extermal modem of dialup.. but with dsl i dunno how to configure.05:47
desrtstas; right click the ISO and click on "write to cd"05:47
darGorfrank: i got adsl today05:47
D_Fdesrt: But I do not understand why it shouldn't work for me, but it works for someone else. That's ridiculous.05:48
Fazerpestilence: Should I go back to the Install screen and do something?05:48
niranjordanau, http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-24272/epid-396672/05:48
frankdargor: do you need a login for your adsl?05:48
pestilenceFazer: just a second.05:48
jordanauniran, right, do you think it was paid advertising?05:48
niranjordanau, oh, i doubt it05:48
Fazerpestilence: Sure thing.05:48
darGorfrank: i've my login/passwd. but how to configure it? with DHCP commands? must edit some configurations of DHCP?05:48
niranjordanau, they would've gotten the blurb right05:48
niranjordanau, they said gnome 2.0 for warty when it was 2.805:48
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Grabenhello fellow ubunters05:49
frankdargor: no you need to run     sudo pppoeconf     in a console05:49
Primal79desrt: okay, with listen 8888 put in and firestarter turned off, i don't get the connection refused error05:49
desrtPrimal79; good :)05:49
Primal79although nothing else happens either05:49
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Fazerpestilence: OR should I go back to the LIve CD and do that?  I think it kind of recognizes the DHCP then and assigns me the IP address and stuff...even then though, it still didn05:49
Fazer't work05:49
Primal79ff says done but nothing on the page05:49
desrtPrimal79; ugh05:49
Primal79what now?05:50
kennethloveelinks just keeps saying "making connection", Primal79 & desrt05:50
pestilenceFazer: go back and do what?05:50
sKarnageso what's the deal with dependencies then?05:50
darGorfrank: ok', i'll go to linux partition. IS sudo ppoeconf , and then?some adsl_setup commands or ifconfig command? gedit some .conf ???05:50
Fazerpestilence: Type in iwconfig05:50
desrtPrimal79; this is positively evil.05:50
Fazeror ifconfig or whatever it is.05:50
pestilenceFazer: no, that's when i thought you had a wireless card.  ipconfig is the command you want.05:50
desrtPrimal79; i wonder if maybe you just have a blank homepage?05:50
stasdesrt, it doesn't work05:50
Primal79might be05:50
pestilenceFazer: oops typo.  ifconfig05:50
desrtstas; hm.  what's wrong?05:51
Fazerpestilence: Ah, hehe okay.05:51
pestilenceFazer: with a "f"05:51
stasdesrt, it just rejects my 700MB cdrs05:51
Primal79can i go and add something really quick?05:51
Fazerpestilence: Yeah, I realized that.05:51
desrtstas; oh.  there's some trick you need to do to enable overburns05:51
stasdesrt, asking to insert one with at least 587MB05:51
pestilenceFazer: you could try assigning it the ip address you are getting in windows05:51
desrtuhh05:51
stasI want to burn a unbuntu CD!!05:51
desrtthat's pretty strange05:51
kennethlovewoot! got it to work05:51
Fazerpestilence: Hmm, during the install screen?05:51
pestilenceFazer: but my guess is since it's not getting an ip via dhcp, that's not going to work either05:51
desrtwell, you could always try from the commandline05:51
desrtare you sure the CD you are using is empty?05:52
Primal79kenneth: got what to work? samba?05:52
Fazerpestilence: However, I was able to get the IP from the Live CD after a little tweaking05:52
kennethloveyeah05:52
stasI tried like 3!05:52
desrti've never heard of that happening before....05:52
pestilenceFazer: i'm don't think you can do that from the install screen, but you could try hitting "ctrl+alt+F2" and play around05:52
stasoh ok05:52
stasthere it goes05:52
kanuhaI got to say, Ubuntu is awesome. It's the only distro that I am able to get my TV and Radio card working along with my ATI 9600XT 3D graphics. Not to mention that every program that I want to use is listed in synaptic and has been installed flawlessly. Thanks to everyone who helped to contribute to this distro.05:52
stasit just started working05:52
desrtstas; excellent :)05:52
Fazerpestilence: What does CTRL + ALT + F2 do?05:52
stasfor no reason05:52
stashm05:52
stasodd!05:52
desrthey05:52
pestilenceFazer: but if you aren't familiar with working on the command line, don't bother05:52
desrtdon't question it :)05:52
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stasis there CD image emulation in this?05:52
Primal79where are the files kept that show the homepage?05:52
desrtit might stop :)05:52
pestilenceFazer: should put you on virtual terminal 205:52
staslike05:52
desrtstas; to mount cds?05:53
pestilenceFazer: the install happens on virtual terminal 105:53
stasif I want to mount an image on a virtual cd rom driv05:53
stase05:53
darGorfranck: ?05:53
Fazerpestilence: How do I go about doing that?05:53
desrtstas; i wrote a couple of scripts to do it.  they sort of suck, but they work05:53
sKarnagewhat are some possible workarounds to dependencies?05:53
frankdarGor:   sudo pppoeconf  should walk you through the whole confoguration  if you use  pppoe  which I think you do05:53
stasoh05:53
pestilenceFazer: setting the ip address?05:53
stasI was thinking something like Alcohol05:53
Primal79anyone: where are the files kept that show the homepage?05:53
stasyou know, with raw emulation05:53
kennethlovePrimal79: /var/www05:53
stassafedisc 1/2 emulation05:53
desrtstas; basically, you need to do a loopback mount as root05:53
Fazerpestilence: No, you said virtual terminal05:54
stasblacklists05:54
stasthat kind of stuff05:54
desrtstas; do you know the terminal at all?05:54
pestilenceFazer: ctrl+alt+F205:54
darGorfrank: i must get dns automatically. so, use some command of DHCP ?05:54
stasI know SOME terminal05:54
Fazerpestilence: Oh, and then?05:54
staslikek05:54
desrtheh.05:54
stasls05:54
stasand apt-get ;p05:54
cowbudahh breezy is starting to get updates How I missed my lovely updates!05:54
desrtwell05:54
frankFor me it was done automatically05:54
frankdarGor: For me it was done automatically05:54
Fazerpestilence: I know a little about the command line, been used to SSH'ing into Linux servers05:54
desrtmount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /some/directory05:54
pestilenceFazer: you could try "ifconfig eth0 up" and then "ifconfig eth0 123.456.789.1"05:54
desrt^^ this will 'mount' the iso file in that directory05:54
stasheh05:54
desrtie: that directory will contain the cd05:54
staswhat if it's a cuesheet + binary?05:55
pestilenceFazer: replacing with your desired ip address, of course05:55
desrtthen you have to convert it to iso first05:55
Primal79desrt: strange... the index.html shows "placeholder page" etc05:55
darGorfrank: u use sudo ppoeconf, walk througly, and all ok?05:55
Fazerpestilence: What IP address should I really put then?05:55
stas;o05:55
staswhat if it's a ccd05:55
Fazercan't it be that 123 one?05:55
desrtwhat is a ccd?05:55
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stasclonecd?05:55
frankdarGor: thats all I did  and internet works05:55
desrti've never heard of that05:55
stas.sub + .img + .ccd + .cue05:55
stasit takes 4 files05:55
pestilenceFazer: oops...."ifconfig eth0 address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx"05:55
darGorfrank: oki thanks, i'll install ubuntu now and try that05:55
stasif you convert it to iso, you lose lots of data05:55
desrtsounds confusing05:55
pestilenceFazer: the one you have in windows05:55
desrtstas; nod05:56
pestilenceFazer: shown in ipconfig05:56
Fazerhmmm...05:56
stas:(05:56
Fazerpestilence: Alrighty05:56
darGorfrank: nothing like that ifconfig eth0 up adress 255.255.255.255 etc etc naa ??05:56
pestilenceFazer: but like i said, this probably won't work05:56
stasso no 1:1 copies with linux eh ;p05:56
desrtPrimal79; i can't access it from my house05:56
desrtconnection refused05:56
Fazerpestilence: damn, so, any ideas of what I can do?05:56
] BreliC[wow, 37MB for Acrobat 7 for linux... is it just me or that just bloatware now?05:56
desrtPrimal79; my next suggestion is to try from your windows box05:56
stasalright05:56
] BreliC[it used to be good and quick, but no longer05:56
desrt] BreliC[; don't use acrobat 7.  it sucks.05:56
stasI'm about to reinstall unbuntu05:56
desrt] BreliC[; you'll be happier with evince05:56
] BreliC[desrt, heh, i know.  just reading an article about it05:56
stasamd64->i38605:57
desrtstas; a good call :)05:57
] BreliC[desrt, that's what i use.  i think it's great.  small and quick yet functional for my tastes05:57
stasdo I have to format this partition?05:57
frankdarGor:  Not for me anyways.  I just have  my ethernet card connected to dsl modem  and I use a login/password to connect05:57
pestilenceFazer: do you have a second machine you could chat on here on while you try the install?05:57
kennethloveafk05:57
desrtstas; no.05:57
stasor can I just leave what I have here as is?05:57
frankdarGor: and     pppoeconf took car of it for me05:57
desrtstas; what do you want to save?  just /home?05:57
Fazerpestilence: Damn, no, its in the other room and someone's sleeping =(05:57
stasuhh05:57
pestilenceFazer: :)05:57
darGorfrank: ok thanks a lot man05:57
stasI don't really have anything to save05:57
Fazerpestilence; Maybe I should wait this out till tomorrow?  What time are you awake?05:57
pestilenceFazer: hahaha05:57
stasI installed unbuntu like 5 hours ago05:58
desrtstas; so what's wrong with wiping it out?05:58
stasheh05:58
frankdarGor:   hope it works for you too  :-)05:58
Primal79desrt: i can already access rayandamy.dyndns.org from windows05:58
desrtPrimal79; sounds like a problem with your router, then05:58
stas /home could be nice actually05:58
desrtor your ISP05:58
Fazerpestilence: ;)05:58
desrtsince the ubuntu box is fine05:58
staswhere can I back it up to?05:58
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desrtstas; if you've only been installed for 5 hours, just blow it away.  it's easier :)05:58
staslol05:58
desrtor copy to a usb drive or another computer or something05:58
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stasheh aiight05:58
pestilenceFazer: this channel always has hundreds of people in it, just come back05:58
desrtthe hardest part of the ubuntu install is futzing with partitions.  it's best if you can just say 'erase disk' :)05:59
stasdo you have some ftp space or something I could use for 30 minutes? ;p05:59
geneo93pestilence:  still the same05:59
pestilencegeneo93: what'd you try05:59
desrtuh05:59
desrtis your machine net-accessable?05:59
Fazerpestilence: Arrr yeah, but you seem to be like more 1-on-1 kinda thing. =(05:59
CygnusX1Hi.  I need kubuntu to pass its hostname to the DHCP server(IPCOP) on boot.  I cannot figure out where to add this option.05:59
geneo93pestilence:  reinstalling libsane05:59
stasnet-accessible?05:59
desrtnm05:59
desrti'll make you an account on my speed box05:59
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frankanyone know how to login to webmin???   It says it used my root password to set up an account.  but this is Ubuntu05:59
Primal79desrt: how about this? i can access my ip address, but not ip address:888805:59
pestilencegeneo93: *still* no /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf?05:59
Fazerpestilence: I also have a Wifi card, doubt that would do any work since its owned by MIcrosoft =/05:59
pestilenceFazer: actually, you are probably wrong06:00
Fazerpestilence: But I did found a driver for ndiswrapper that can help me out.06:00
desrtstas; ok. open nautilus06:00
pestilenceFazer: with ndiswrapper, you can get most wireless cards working with the windows drivers (if it won't work with linux ones)06:00
desrtactually, just hit alt+f206:00
desrtthen type in: sftp://stas@manic.desrt.ca/home/stas/06:00
pestilenceFazer: but not during install...06:00
Fazerpestilence: yeah =(06:01
desrtthe password is in a private message06:01
stasok06:01
robitaillefrank,  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo   and search for "webmin"06:01
Fazerpestilence: One thing I also noticed is that during the install, my USB mouse woul be active but then later on be not working (no red light)06:01
frankrobitaille: thanks!   instant support - gotta love it!06:01
Fazerso, is that temporary?06:01
stassweet thanks06:01
desrtjust toss your crap in there06:02
stasI need like 1mb of space ;p06:02
stasNautilus cannot display "sftp://stas@manic.desrt.ca/home/stas".06:02
stasarf06:02
desrthuh.06:02
locomortohave you tried without the s?06:03
paulproteus(Nautilus' SFTP GNOME-VFS has never worked for me, for what it's worth.)06:03
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desrtstas; what is your username on your machine?06:03
stasstas :)06:03
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desrtoh06:03
Fazerpestilence: Oh and also check this out: http://tuxspot.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_tuxspot_archive.html06:03
desrtthen just say sftp://manic.desrt.ca/home/stas06:03
Fazerpestilence: That person on the blog has the exact same card06:03
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concept10Ive just booted this ubuntu live cd of the new release and it sucks so much, i cant believe the hype about it06:03
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pestilenceFazer: so, it should work ;)06:04
desrtstas; work?06:04
locomortoconvept10: how so06:04
concept10No, just kidding its great06:04
Fazerpestilence: heh, can oyu read that blog and see how hard it would be to do?06:04
locomortogood06:04
pestilenceFazer: i glanced at it, and it doesn't look any worse than any other ndiswrapper install06:04
Fazerpestilence: But how the hell will I even be getting ndiswrapper to work?06:04
sKarnagehow do you deal with dependencies??06:04
locomortoi was about to do... evil things06:04
pestilenceFazer: i don't think it's all that bad.06:04
Fazerpestilence: Or does it come installed?06:04
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locomortoFazer what card do you have?06:05
Fazerlocomorto: Wifi card or ethernet card?06:05
FazerI need help in both, but right now, the ethernet card.06:05
pestilenceFazer: it doesn't come installed, but it's not that difficult to install06:05
concept10I have a question for you guys: this live CD recognizes my wireless chipset, the first distro to do so, how do I enable wireless in ubuntu?06:05
locomortoethernet?06:05
locomortonormally thats the easiest to get setup06:05
virtualdthunderbird crashes when i try to delete mails :/ what should i do?06:05
femvcs : pcmcia_socket0: unable to apply power06:05
Fazerlocomorto: apparently, not for me.06:05
femvany idea ?06:05
dbrodieis there a known problem with some audio card in ubuntu? Because I have an audio card which is supposed to work in linux great, and it seems that the modules are loaded, but nada zilch nothing is coming out06:05
Fazerpestilence: How do you think I can do that/ I double my USB mp3 player which acts like a hard drive will work with LInux?06:06
locomortofirst06:06
femvcs : pcmcia_socket0: unable to apply power       solution???06:06
locomortodo you have a latop or desktop?06:06
locomortolaptop*06:06
Fazerlocomorto: Oh, i have a laptop.06:06
locomortocentrino?06:06
Fazerlocomorto: Oh, no no, very old.  Thinkpad 600E06:06
Fazerlocomorto: 366 MHz with 160 MB ram.06:07
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Fazer5 GB hard drive06:07
FazerCurrently, I am running the very first version of XP with lots o' spyware06:07
FazerThinking of giving Linux a try06:07
geneo93pestilence:  ok i copied files from mandrake06:07
FazerSo far, not going so well =(06:07
locomortoare you using windows XP on the laptop now?06:07
Fazerlocomorto: Correct.06:07
sKarnage*sigh*06:07
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Fazerlocomorto: The main problem I face is during the install, It would fail to autoconfigure the network06:08
FazerIT would find the network card I guess, but not do the DHCP configuration06:08
locomortowhat network do you have?06:08
Fazerlocomorto: I am currently directly connected to the Cable.06:08
Fazer*cable modem06:08
pestilencegeneo93: ok, so *now* you should edit /etc/sane.d/plustek.conf and tell it your libusb device06:08
femvcs : pcmcia_socket0: unable to apply power          heard about it ??06:08
Fazerlocomorto: And on Windows, it says that the IP address is assigned via DHCP.06:08
locomortofirst, turn off windows06:08
geneo93k06:08
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locomortothen hit the reset button behind the cable modem06:09
locomortothen try to boot into ubuntu06:09
Fazerlocomorto: Alright, after?  The only machine that I have access to is this laptop =(06:09
pestilenceFazer: it's possible your mp3 player will show up in linux as a removable drive.06:09
pestilenceFazer: lots of devices do06:09
Fazerpestilence: AH, I hope06:09
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locomortomind does ;) (mp3 player06:09
Fazerlocomorto: Do I hvae to reset the cable modem?06:09
pestilenceFazer: it's interesting, out of any linux i've ever tried, ubuntu recognizes the hardware i own the easiest...you just plug it in.06:09
Fazerlocomorto; If it works fine with Windows, I don't see whats wrong with it.06:10
locomortoi sometimes need to do that when switching from windows to linux06:10
Fazerpestilence: It seems that this network card is pretty cheap.06:10
pestilenceFazer: but clearly that's not the case with *all* hardware :)06:10
pestilenceFazer: yes, i think that is the problem06:10
Fazerpestilence: Haha, yeah, it seems.06:10
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locomortoi think its because they reconginze the mac address of the card diffrently, and the modem does not assign a proper IP accordingly06:10
pestilencelocomorto: that doesn't make sense06:10
Al2O3hmmmm, ydl = 21, ubuntu = 477...  Tough to choose the IRC winner06:10
pestilencelocomorto: the card has the same mac regardless of what OS you use06:11
locomortook, let me put it this way06:11
pestilencelocomorto: unless he is doing mac cloning06:11
Fazerlocomorto: Hmm...so, reset the cable modem, then turno n th elappy with the install Cd in it?06:11
locomortoyou could not get pass the install?06:11
holycowhttp://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/04/13/BUG2DC78FN1.DTL  <-- why am i feeling guilty about starting to hate capitalism?06:11
Fazerlocomorto: Eh? I abandoned the install after I was having network confi. problems =/06:11
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locomortoah06:11
locomortowell it, and if it fails, just continue anyway (you can always get rid of linux after if you decide you dont want it)06:12
holycowi'm a capitalist my self through and through, but i find it interesting how i'm trully starting to hate commercial software vendors on levels i never considered before06:12
Fazerlocomorto: Yeah, then I will think about all the time I have wasted =/06:12
locomortonot really06:13
locomortoi do alot of stuf ofline in linux06:13
locomortooffline*06:13
Fazerlocomorto: this is a laptop ;)06:13
FazerI use it to browse and listne ot Music06:13
Fazerspeaking of music, yeah, sound card, shits.  That's another issue.06:13
FazerBut i guess the internet is more important first.06:13
pestilenceFazer: i'm guessing a thinkpad will have a majority of hardware supported06:13
locomortoi only have windows for games (its a bit hard to get 3d acceleration with a laptop graphics card in linux)06:13
pestilenceFazer: especially an old one06:14
locomortoi do all my word proccessing in linux06:14
zerokarmaleftit's a damn shame if you can't browse the web with a laptop from the toilet06:14
locomortodisplaying the maths ebook06:14
locomortolol06:14
Fazerlocomorto: yeah, heh, thats cool.06:14
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Fazerpestilence: Well, this old thinkpad is pretty useless without its PCMCIA cards =/06:14
locomortodamn laptop speakers06:15
locomortowhat PCMIA card do you have?06:15
kennethlovelocomorto: i wrote a novel for nanowrimo last year in linux06:15
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locomortonanowrimo?06:15
Fazerlocomorto: I have a Dynex DX E20 card (ethernet) and a Microsoft MN 720 WiFi .11g card.06:15
FazerSo the total comes to 2 =) (wee, I can count!)06:15
kennethlovelocomorto: National Novel Writing Month (nanowrimo.org)06:16
Grabenso k7 is the best kernel for athlon-xp right?06:16
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locomortohmm fro the wifi card go here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=2100&sort=8&cat=myprod&page=106:16
locomortoexcept use alien and dpkg to use the rpm06:17
Fazerlocomorto: Holy shits..06:17
locomortojust do a man alien and man dpkg in the terminal when linux starts up06:17
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cens0redcan anybody recommend a good font to use with xchat?06:17
Fazerlocomorto: =( but how will I get those in the first place?06:18
locomortoyou download them in windows06:18
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pestilencelocomorto: that looks WAY too complicated06:18
locomortofirst link06:18
FazerIt would be helpful if I had the PCMCIA ethernet card working.06:18
Fazerlocomorto: How about my find: http://tuxspot.blogspot.com/2005_02_01_tuxspot_archive.html06:18
FazerI think that one is pretty cool.06:18
locomorto"I felt lucky" lol06:18
pestilenceFazer: this one is probably simpler http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2568306:18
geneo93pestilence:  still same thing06:19
pestilencegeneo93: what did you put in plustek.conf?06:19
Fazerheh, all of the solutions require internet access of some sort.06:19
locomortohmm could work06:19
locomortogive it  try06:20
locomortoanyone here compiled FF in ubuntu?06:20
desrtff=firefox?06:20
pestilenceFazer: how did you get the wired card to work on the livecd?06:20
locomortoyes06:20
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desrtwhat's wrong with the shipping version?06:20
pestilencelocomorto: what would compel you to do that?06:20
Grabencens0red I use bitstream vera sans mono06:20
pestilenceFazer: my instinct says if you could make it work from the livecd, you can make it work from a full install06:20
cens0redGraben ta.06:20
locomorto-O3 and the fact that the ubuntu packages ****ed for me06:21
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Fazerpestilence: I don't think I really got it to work, I was able to get the IP address I guess but Activating Eth0 from the Networking part, but it didn't really owrk since i couldnt ping or anything.06:21
FazerEventhough my card was blinking and the modem activity light also blinking06:21
locomortothere working now, but its handy to have just in case06:21
geneo93pestilence:06:21
locomortoknow*06:21
geneo93pestilence: device libusb:001:00206:21
pestilenceFazer: strange.  would definitely help to have a second computer there so you could walk through it06:21
Grabenhow's it look for you cens0red?06:22
pestilencegeneo93: how about /proc/usb/...06:22
Fazerpestilence: Damn, I know.06:22
cens0redGraben errr ... pretty ghastly.06:22
pestilencegeneo93: do you have permissions set properly on those?06:22
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Grabenreally? what resolution are you at, and what are your font settings?06:22
cens0rednot meaning to start a flame or anything, I'm just slowly getting my head around this new distro.06:22
locomortocens0red have you tried the super sweet font guide in the howto section of the forum?06:22
pestilencegeneo93: /proc/bus/usb/001/00206:22
Fazerpestilence: Btw, when I booted up the Live CD.  The network panel on the top right was showing "lo" as the device instead of eth006:22
cens0redlocomorto no.06:23
cens0redshould I?06:23
locomortoyes06:23
Fazerand how do I use a USB storage device?06:23
pestilenceFazer: ya, lo is the loopback device.  it won't get you anywhere06:23
locomortoit might be called something else tho06:23
geneo93pestilence: ??06:23
Fazerpestilence: Yes, I then had to enable/activate eth0, which still didn't work but seemed to get the DHCP working fine.06:23
pestilenceFazer: you plug it in, then you look under "media"06:23
Fazerpestilence: Ah, simple enough06:23
GrabenI tend to disagree with the guide, I need my font hinting06:23
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locomortoit also comes up on the desktop06:24
cens0redlocomorto ok. lol. I was dubious there for a minute. The name sounded like a sarcy joke.06:24
locomortonormally06:24
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pestilencegeneo93: if you are trying this as a normal user, you need to grant normal users read access to /proc/bus/usb/001/00206:24
pestilencegeneo93: and possibly write access, not sure06:24
geneo93pestilence:  I WAS USING ROOT06:25
geneo93opps sorry06:25
cens0redis the apt howto some where in my doc files? If so, how do I get to it?06:25
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Fazeryou know what06:26
Fazermaybe I can just stick with good ol' windows and just get an ibook06:26
kennethlovemmmm. ibook06:26
desrtmmmm. ibook06:26
kennethlovewhy would you want to stick with windows, though?06:26
D_FUbuntu is awesome.06:26
pestilenceFazer: a much cheaper alternative is buying a decent ethernet card :)06:26
D_FI have never seen GNOME look so good.06:26
desrtD_F; does this mean teamspeak works?06:26
D_Fdesrt: Nope :(06:27
desrtshame.06:27
Fazerpestilence: Yeah, but I doubt I can use Linux to watch any movie on this thinkpad06:27
cens0redD_F yeah I kinda like it.06:27
desrtbut ya.  ubuntu is pretty awesome06:27
D_Fdesrt: Teamspeak is the only thing stoping me from loving it completely.06:27
FazerLinux seems to be more bloated than XP to me06:27
cens0redI'm a bit annoyed that I can't get mplayer to work though.06:27
pestilenceFazer: but you can't use windows to do it either06:27
D_FFazer: WTF06:27
kennethloveVLC works on linux. watch whatever you want06:27
desrtD_F; google around.  maybe someone shares your main.06:27
Fazerha ha ha06:27
desrt*pain.06:27
desrtkennethlove; use totem.06:27
FazerI got VLC on XP, and it was SHIT =(06:27
D_Fdesrt: No one seems to, I have googled around.06:27
desrtkennethlove; if you apt-get totem-xine, totem magically stops sucking06:28
desrtand if you also apt-get w32codecs, then there's basically nothing on earth that totem won't play06:28
D_FOr apt-get xine-ui :P06:28
kennethlovefazer - VLC is a great client. works perfectly here on my ibook and worked on my old linux install (haven't tried it on ubuntu)06:28
D_FVLC is great!06:28
Fazerno, no its not06:28
D_FHas anyone here tried MEPIS?06:28
locomortowont let me assign it to uto open files tho06:28
Fazerthe forward seeking thing doesn't work properly06:28
locomortoso i dont use it06:28
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geneo93Fazer:  i prefer mplayer06:28
Fazerah, whichever, we'll see if I can get internet working with tihs06:29
D_Fkennethlove: I find that MEPIS is, well shit. It still has XF86, and the sound is distorted and crap.06:29
cens0redhow do u get mplayer to work, if you're on a p2 celeron?06:29
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pestilencegeneo93: so, are you following these instructions06:29
pestilence# each device needs at least two lines:06:29
pestilence# - [usb]  vendor-ID and product-ID06:29
pestilence# - device devicename06:29
FazerShould I try Red Hat instead?06:29
D_FP2 Celeron? Isn't that a contradiction? Pentium 2 Celeron? OK.........06:29
kennethloveD_F: it ran alright for me. didn't do a lot on it, though. mostly bittorrent and local web testing06:29
geneo93pestilence:  yes06:29
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pestilenceFazer: i think if it won't work in ubuntu, it won't work in red hat.  but i'm biased06:30
Fazerhmmm06:30
D_Fkennethlove: Ubuntu has everything exactly how I like it, sound is great, plus no shitty aRts or KDE. If only Teamspeak would work!06:30
cens0redD_F perhaps. It's actually p3 I just remembered.06:30
FazerWhat is Teamspeak?06:30
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kennethloveD_F: my xmms keeps crashing.06:30
NyanNyanKonekoD_F I agree, partly.06:30
cens0redI try and run mplayer and all I get is "Reading config file /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf Illegal instruction"06:30
NyanNyanKonekoI love how Ubuntu is set up.06:30
D_FFazer: A VoIP program. I've made it work on all distros except Ubuntu.06:31
NyanNyanKonekoThough I don't dislike KDE or aRts.06:31
D_FNyanNyanKoneko: Ditto.06:31
kennethlovecens0red: maybe there's an illegal instruction in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf06:31
FazerD_F: Woah, what makes Ubuntu so special?06:31
D_FNyanNyanKoneko: I do, KDE is slow and crashes a lot.06:31
Fazer...in the case that it won't make Teamspeak work06:31
D_FFazer: I don't know, just everything about it06:31
crimsuncens0red: you don't have a Pentium 4, do you? :)06:31
Fazerheh06:31
Edgankennethlove: haha, illegal instruction in a text file?06:31
cens0redcrimsun heh. no.06:31
crimsuncens0red: and what do you have?06:31
kennethloveEdgan: i go by what the error messages tell me. :)06:31
cens0redAnd I didn't realise it was the system requirements.06:31
NyanNyanKonekoKDE just needs a little simplification.  The interface is too bloated.  But some people like that.  =)06:31
cens0redcrimsun a p3.06:32
crimsuncens0red: then install mplayer-58606:32
geneo93[usb]  0x05e3 0x0502  device libusb:001:002 two lines06:32
kennethloveKDE is great for win->lin converts06:32
kennethlovebut after awhile you start to want something simpler06:32
pestilencegeneo93: seems like you've done everything right06:32
D_FI'm a Win-Lin converter06:32
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geneo93well may reboot will pick it up06:33
kennethloveyeah, i meant to put the word "recent" in there06:33
D_FI can't stand KDE. I love XFCE, but GNOME is my favourite after seeing Ubuntu :)06:33
EdganParts of kde are good. I like kmail, and though bloated, konqueror is a better file manager than nautilus06:33
locomortoi used to prefer KDE over GNOME, but Gnome grew on me06:33
NyanNyanKonekoYeah, linux is complicated enough with makefiles and the /etc directory.  ;)  Might as well keep the gui simplified.  ;)06:33
D_FI like K3b and Ark. That's all.06:33
cens0redcrimsun then it complains that I need to install  libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) and libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0), but that neither are going to be installed for some undisclosed reason.06:33
kennethloveaKregator06:33
kennethlovedoes one thing and does it well06:33
crimsuncens0red: pass it the correct version06:33
D_Flocomorto: Ditto!06:33
cens0redcrimsun I haven't read the apt howto yet. How do I pass it the correct version?06:34
crimsuncens0red: in this instance, mplayer-586=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu606:34
cens0redcrimsun aaah. thanx!06:34
Fazerah god damnit man06:34
Fazerhow am I going to get ndiswrapper without internet?06:34
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kennethloveget on your knees with the right person?06:35
cens0redcrimsun same problem I think.06:35
crimsuncens0red: I presume you have multiverse _and_ universe uncommented?06:35
pestilenceD_F: so what is wrong with teamspeak?06:35
D_Fpestilence: It will not start when I run "TeamSpeak".06:35
pestilenceD_F: works ok for me06:36
pestilenceD_F: don't know what to connect to, but it runs06:36
cens0redcrimsun oh no.... sorry I didn't do the "1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6" bit right.06:36
Primal79desrt: how about this? i can access my ip address, but not ip address:888806:36
Fazerpestilence: So, how do I get ndiswrapper if I can't really do apt-get ?06:36
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D_Fpestilence: All I did was extract it, run the installer, and then I try to execute "TeamSpeak", and it's running as a process, but it doesn't come up.06:36
kennethlovefazer - don't you have a floppy disk?06:36
cens0redcrimsun how did u work out that I needed to insert the "=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6" bit?06:36
pestilenceFazer: perhaps you could put it on your mp3 player :)06:36
Fazersucks =(06:37
pestilenceD_F: have you tried "mv ~/.teamspeak2 ~/.teamspeak2-old06:37
Fazerah welp06:37
D_Fpestilence: What would that do?06:37
pestilenceD_F: you might have to do the same with ~/.tsclient06:38
D_Fpestilence: Hold on, I'll boot Ubuntu, BRB.06:38
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pestilenceD_F: it would clear your old configuration06:38
crimsuncens0red: experience.06:38
crimsuncens0red: that and I maintained the warty backport, which is deprecated.06:38
Fazerkennethlove: Now I wonder if Linux will support the Thinkpad's external drive =(06:38
FazerI wonder if the source of ndiswrapper is big enough to it in a floppy drive.06:38
geneo93bbiab06:38
cens0redcrimsun aah. The sort of thing I won't get from reading the apt-get howto?06:38
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cugaCan somebody running an nvidia 6600GT vid card tell me the output of cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status ? are you running in 8x ?06:39
Fazerpestilence: Do you have ndiswrapper installed?06:39
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Grabenis there any way to view what is in a tar file without extracting it,  know I could in kde06:39
pestilenceFazer: not on this machine, no06:39
crimsuncens0red: perhaps you would. It has been mentioned on ubuntu-users, though.06:39
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FazerDoes it come installed by default?06:39
Fazeron Hoary?06:39
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pestilenceFazer: sec...i'll tell you how big it is06:39
pestilenceFazer: i doubt it06:39
Fazerpestilence: Ah okay.06:39
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cens0redis there going to be an ubuntu newsgroup? I like usenet.06:40
D_Fpestilence: I am back.06:40
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cens0redand is this a good apt how-to for ubuntu http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html06:41
pestilenceFazer: ndiswrapper-utils is about 22k :)06:41
epicenterIf I am trying to use mencode for AMD64 what package do I use to install Encrypted DVD support?06:41
pestilenceFazer: will probably fit on a floppy.06:41
epicenterI have libdvdread3 but that seems to not be enough06:41
D_Fpestilence: I run ./TeamSpeak and it just sits there doing nothing!06:41
epicenterit says "ERROR Encrypted VOB file! Read DOCS/HTML/en/dvd.html." But that file doesn't exist.06:41
locomortoepicenter: libdvdcss206:41
pestilenceD_F: did you try what i suggested?06:41
D_Fpestilence: Yes.06:42
locomortoor it could be: libcssdvd206:42
epicenterlocomorto: No installation candidate06:42
epicenterneither06:42
Fazerpestilence: Awesome.06:42
D_Fpestilence: I'll check the log.06:42
locomortodo you have universe and multiverse enabled?06:42
epicenterpestilence: apt-cache search css |grep dvd reports ONLY libdvdread3 and libdvdread3-dev06:42
D_Fpestilence: No errors at all in the log.06:42
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pestilenceepicenter: huh?06:42
D_Fpestilence: TeamSpeak just doesn't come up. What the hell is going on?!06:42
Fazerso, anyways I think I am going to go play around with the Live CD he, bah06:43
Fazerhmmm, don't know if I should get Win 2k pro SP4 or Win XP SP206:43
D_Fpestilence: Argh, this is really annoying!06:44
locomortoif it was upto me, i woudl get neither06:44
locomortowould*06:44
Fazerlocomorto: Heh, bah.06:45
pestilenceD_F: Q: I have something to say to the TeamSpeak team06:45
pestilenceA: Please go to the forum and post it there or go to the irc channel at quakenet.org #teamspeak.06:45
epicenterpestilence: Neither of those packages exist and searching ther apt listings for dvd and css find nothing06:45
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D_FThank you!06:45
D_FI'll be on my way there right now.06:45
Fazerpestilence: So, do you think I should go to the Live CD and type in ifconfig?06:46
epicenterlocomorto: none of those exisrt06:46
epicenter*exist06:46
pestilenceFazer: you should several things, but without a net connection it will be difficult.06:47
stashi guys06:47
geneo91pestilence:  now it finds two of the same thing06:47
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pestilencegeneo91: ha.  maybe try removing the lines you put in the config file :)06:47
geneo91k06:47
pestilenceFazer: you need to see things like "lspci" and  "lsmod"06:47
geneo91just coment them out06:47
pestilencegeneo91: sure06:47
Fazerpestilence: Ooh yeah, that rings a bell.06:47
D_Fpestilence: Waiting for an answer now :)06:47
Fazerpestilence: Can you make me a list in order of what I should do?06:48
locomortoepicenter, try adding these lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list file:06:48
pestilenceD_F: good luck with that :)06:48
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D_FThanks06:48
locomortoactually06:48
pestilenceFazer: well, i guess those three commands are a start.06:48
locomortojust follow this: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories06:48
Fazerpestilence: Hmm, alright, I will get to that then.06:48
pestilenceFazer: wait06:49
Fazerwaiting06:49
pestilenceFazer: lspci probably isn't going to give you your pcmcia cardinfo06:49
FazerWhen I was in Ubuntu Live, it said my card was a D-Link =/06:49
FazerBut,....its a Dynex =/06:49
pestilenceFazer: for that, you need to run ... you guessed it "cardinfo" :)06:49
Fazerhahha06:49
Fazerits a command?06:49
pestilenceFazer: yes06:50
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Fazeri will try to see if I can mount my hard drive and copy the results of those command sinto a text file of some sort.06:50
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epicenterlocomorto: what were  those lines?06:51
FazerHow would I mont my hard drive again06:51
pestilenceFazer: what kind of partition do you have06:51
FazerNTFS06:51
Fazeroh fucks06:51
pestilenceFazer: if it's ntfs, don't bother06:51
FazerNTFS doesn't work?06:51
Fazerfucks06:51
pestilenceFazer: read works06:51
Fazerfine, then USB player?06:51
pestilenceFazer: write doesn't06:51
pestilenceFazer: that would work06:51
Fazerhow do I mount a USB drive?06:51
enz0has anyone upgraded from warty to hoary?  Since the upgrade, my xmms refuses to work06:51
Fazeroh wait i don't have to ;P06:51
crimsunenz0: and the output is set to esound?06:51
pestilenceFazer: hopefully it will magically appear in the "mounts" folder06:52
Fazerpestilence: Where is that folder?06:52
pestilenceFazer: somebody who runs gnome will have to tell you...06:52
pestilenceFazer: i meant "media"06:52
pestilencenot mounts06:52
Fazerooh06:52
geneo91pestilence: its not responding to scan06:52
enz0crimsun: doh!  I can't believe it was just the friggin plugin!  I thought I'd tested that.  Thanks!06:53
pestilencegeneo91: http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=epson&model=1250&bus=any06:53
crimsunnp06:53
Fazerpestilence: Where do I find it?06:53
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pestilenceFazer: i dunno, i think there is a "my computer"-ish menu.  but i run kde.06:54
Fazerpestilence: Aaah, okay.06:54
geneo91nevermind its working06:54
Fazerpestilence: How would I mount it from the command line?06:54
geneo91just slow as hell06:54
pestilenceFazer: you would have to know what device it was06:55
pestilenceFazer: my camera shows up as /dev/sda106:55
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cens0redcrimsun thanx for that. mplayer seems to be working.06:56
Fazeraah okay, thanks06:56
FazerI will do that.06:56
pestilenceFazer: so mount /dev/sda1 mymount would do.06:56
epicenterWhen I follow the directions of the Wiki to add more repositories I get:06:56
epicenterFailed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: No such file or directory  '06:56
epicenterFailed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  Unable to fetch file, server said '/debian-marillat/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz: No such file or directory  '06:56
Fazerbut doesnt just doing 'mount /dev/sda1' put it int he desktop?06:56
epicenter... are there no files on marillat for AMD64?06:56
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pestilenceFazer: i highly highly doubt it06:56
crimsunepicenter: there are, but not on his local mirror. See debian.video.free.fr.06:56
Fazerpestilence: Ah okay, I will figure it out anyways, thanks.06:56
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pablo928Hi. Does anyone know if I can format part of a ntfs partion to ext3 with Gparted?06:57
crimsunepicenter: though you may find it more suitable to just use the amd64 packages in multiverse.06:57
helio7crimsun: I'm experiencing an occaisonal crash of my hoary system after upgrading from warty.   I have _not_ uninstalled the nvidia proprietary drivers, and keep hearing conflicting advice.  Would you recommend complete uninstallation or something else?06:57
Fazerpestilence: btw, do you think I can get ndiswrapper and what not done right from the mp3 player?06:57
crimsunhelio7: err, so you _are_ using 1.0-7174?06:57
pestilenceFazer: assuming you are able to mount it without issue, then absolutely06:58
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helio7crimsun: what's the command to check that?06:58
pestilenceFazer: you will need two things:  ndiswrapper-utils, and the windows driver for your card06:58
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crimsunhelio7: cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version06:58
pestilenceFazer: that site you pointed me to seemed to have a working windows driver06:58
Fazerpestilence: yeah, exactly what I was thinking, do I get the .deb for ndiswrapper?06:58
pestilenceFazer: that would work06:58
Fazerthen what do I type?06:58
epicentercrimsun: will multiverse have libdvdcss2?06:58
Nulahow do I add the repository that has kernel sources?06:58
helio7crimsun: yes  1.0-717406:58
Fazerit seems to be 136kb06:59
Fazerpestilence: This one: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/debian/ndiswrapper-source_1.1-1_i386.deb06:59
NulaI'm trying to rebuild the newer intel wireless modules06:59
pestilenceFazer: no.  get the ubuntu build06:59
crimsunepicenter: no, you'll need the amd64 mirror of debian.video.free.fr for that06:59
Fazerpestilence: How...?06:59
pestilencehttp://packages.ubuntu.com/06:59
epicentercrimsun: do I need to add that to my sources.list somehow?06:59
epicentercrimsun: or get the files manually from that site?06:59
Fazerah oay, thanks07:00
pestilenceFazer: then, dpkg -i ndiswrapper-utils*.deb07:00
|QuaD-developers, any idea when we will see new mono and beagle?07:00
pestilenceFazer: and follow these instructions, replacing whatever drivers they use with your own07:00
pestilencehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=ndiswrapper07:00
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cugahow do you make an msdos bootable floppy disk ?07:01
crimsun|QuaD-: seeing how there are experimental (testing) mono 1.1.6 debs for Debian, perhaps not too long07:01
pestilenceFazer: well, maybe you won't need the sed lines :)07:01
helio7crimsun: yes  i'm using nvidia 1.0-7174 and experiencing occaisonal freeze/lockup/crashes (no cursor movement) what do you recommend?07:01
|QuaD-crimsun: i am impatient :)07:01
crimsunhelio7: try booting with "noapic"07:01
|QuaD-do you have the deb mono site?07:01
crimsun|QuaD-: yes, but they will require much fudgery with Ubuntu07:01
Fazerpestilence: I think I just need instructions on how to get ndiswrapper installed and working =/07:01
crimsun|QuaD-: IOW, chance of breaking your current install.07:01
pestilenceFazer: dpkg -i will do07:01
|QuaD-tseng was supposedly building ubuntu mono/beagle debs07:01
helio7booting noapic doesn't disable other functionality crimsun?07:02
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crimsunhelio7: not really.07:02
Fazerpestilence: The link that you just gave me invovles a reboot, I can't do that on a live (non-installed) system.07:02
pablo928Hi. Does anyone know if I can format part of a ntfs partion to ext3 with Gparted?07:02
pestilenceFazer: yea, you don't need a reboot07:03
ripgutcan someone point me to a link on how to exactly update my kernel and compile it for ubuntu?07:03
pestilenceFazer: you can just modprobe ndiswrapper07:03
Fazerpestilence: Oh, then the lights will be activated and what not?07:03
jnoonany networking gurus around?07:03
pestilenceFazer: yup.07:03
crimsunripgut: aptitude install build-essential kernel-package linux-tree-2.6.1007:03
helio7crimsun: um, I need to reboot to get into grub to edit the boot options?  what's the key sequence to edit it?07:03
crimsunripgut: then read the make-kpkg man page07:03
Fazerah SHIT, I just realized...the wifi router is in the other room!07:03
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Fazer*sigh*07:04
crimsunhelio7: when the grub menu appears on boot, press 'e', then append noapic, then press enter, then press 'b'07:04
helio7thank you thank you crimsun07:04
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crimsunhelio7: well, you'll need to scroll down to the kernel line after you press 'e'07:04
pestilenceFazer: i thought the whole idea of wifi was that you could be in a different room ;)07:04
crimsunhelio7: err, _before_ you press 'e'07:04
helio7got it07:05
Fazerpestilence: haha, yeah, I deactivated and brought the cable modem in my room so I could have the ethernet ... bah, should've also brought that too07:05
pestilenceFazer: so this makes me curious07:06
pestilenceFazer: do you do mac address cloning on your laptop?07:06
pestilenceFazer: or on the wireless router?07:06
Fazerpestilence: Why would I?07:06
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FazerI don't even know what mac address cloning is07:06
pestilenceFazer: because some cable providers only allow access from one mac07:06
Fazerooh...07:06
pestilenceFazer: then, probably not07:06
FazerSo, what should I do?07:07
ripgutthnks07:07
pestilenceFazer: but like i said before, if it works in windows, it should work in linux.07:07
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Fazeryeah07:07
pestilenceFazer: and even if that were the culprit, i still think you would get a response from DHCP.  it would just be on a reserved subnet07:07
ripguti just formatted with ubuntu and need to compile the latest kernel for my p4 cpu07:08
ripgutanyone can help?07:08
crimsunripgut: why do you _need_ to compile it?07:08
Fazerpestilence: aaah, I see.07:08
Coilywhere is the file which tells where the os where the swap partition is stored?07:08
pestilenceripgut: why do you need to recompile07:08
ripgutuhm07:08
crimsunripgut: why not just install linux-686 ?07:08
Coilyoops i meant07:08
Coilywhere is the file which tells the os where the swap partition is stored?07:08
ripgutim trying to do that07:08
pestilenceCoily: /etc/fstab07:08
ripgutim a complete noob07:08
crimsunripgut: or if you have a HT-enabled one, linux-686-smp07:08
Coilypestilence, thank you07:08
ripgutcan someone pm me and help me?07:09
Fazerpestilence: So, I am here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/misc/ndiswrapper-source, what do I download and put on my USB player ;)07:09
crimsunripgut: is your P4 HT-enabled?07:09
pestilenceFazer: you don't want source.  just get -utils07:09
ripgutyes07:09
crimsunripgut: then just install linux-686-smp07:09
ripgutits a 3ghz prescott07:09
ripguthow though07:09
pestilencehttp://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-utils_0.12+1.0rc2-1_i386.deb07:09
cens0redgee evolution is quick to boot up in ubuntu. Much more so than in mandrake.07:09
FazerAh, phew thanks07:09
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crimsunripgut: open Synaptic, Search for linux-686-smp, mark it for installation, then click Apply07:10
ripgutok07:10
crimsunripgut: then reboot after all that has completed07:10
ripgutthen what07:10
crimsunripgut: then nothing.07:10
helio7crimsun: successfully rebooted having appended noapic to the kernel line (not root or initrd lines right?) it will automatically continue booting as appended in the future?07:10
ripguteh?07:10
Fazerpestilence: Then i type dpkg *.deb ?07:10
crimsunripgut: you're set after you reboot.07:10
ripgutok :)07:11
pestilenceFazer: dpkg -i07:11
pestilence*.deb07:11
ripgutthen i can isntall nvidia drivers right?07:11
Fazerpestilence: gotcha, -i for install I suppose?07:11
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pestilenceFazer: yes :)07:11
crimsunripgut: they're already installed, you just have to enable them. Read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:11
Fazerawesome, thanks07:11
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robzulahHas anyone ever successfully installed the KDE package on Warty?07:12
crimsunhelio7: no, it's only active for this booted session.07:12
ripgutthanks dude :)07:12
helio7crimsun: how do I make it stick?07:12
crimsunhelio7: you'd have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst (put it in the proper section!), then execute ,,sudo update-grub''07:12
pestilenceFazer: np.  good luck07:12
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Fazerpestilence: one more thing, in this url: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683, do I have to do Step 2?07:13
crimsunhelio7: append it to the commented kopt line07:13
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pestilenceFazer: about extra repositories? no07:13
hondjeHi. Anyone ever get openGL working with matlab & nvidia?07:13
Fazerpestilence: Ah, gotcha07:13
pestilenceFazer: that's was just to get the ndiswrapper package07:13
pestilenceFazer: which you already have07:13
helio7crimsun: this one: # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro07:13
helio707:13
crimsunhelio7: yes07:14
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geneo91ok everting working but rio 80007:14
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helio7thanks07:14
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Fazerpestilence: Ah, I see.07:14
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Coilywhat's the command to check what verison of ubuntu im running?07:14
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crimsunCoily: lsb_release -a07:14
Coilycrimsun, thank you07:14
crimsunnp07:14
helio7 kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro noapic  (look ok?)07:15
crimsunhelio7: yep07:15
haffeHmmm, I have an ntfspartition that spans 2 harddrives (sda1 & sda2) how do I go about to mount these in linux?07:15
crimsunhelio7: wait, no07:15
robzulahAny idea why when I try to install KDE it tells me: "Depends: *filename* but is not going to be installed" on some files then not install the package?07:15
cens0reddammit, mplayer isn't working with subtitles.07:15
ripgutthanks crimsun07:15
crimsunhelio7: _do not_ remove the pound/hash comment marker at the beginning of the line07:15
helio7ooops07:15
helio7ok07:15
pestilencehelio7: what's noapic?07:16
hondjeNo matlab users?07:16
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pestilencehelio7: you mean noacpi?07:16
epicenterIs there a way to get transcode for AMD64?07:16
epicenterI can't find it in any repositories.07:16
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helio7pestilence: no it's a boot option for the grubloader07:16
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pestilencehelio7: ok07:16
helio7re-rebooting (=07:17
maxxistanyone know why my usb logitech elite keyboard stops working after a while in hoary?07:18
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Fazerpestilence: thanks for your help, I will see if the lights go on =)07:18
pestilenceFazer: np.  good luck again07:19
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nickolianyone in here07:19
crimsunno.07:20
Fazerhaha thanks.  ttyl.07:20
nickolididnt think so07:20
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nickolimy user list has dissapeared07:20
nickolihow can i fix this07:20
crimsun...user list? As in /etc/passwd ?07:21
nickolino my irc user list for this room07:21
nickolithe sidebar thing07:21
crimsunthat depends on your irc client07:21
nickoliX-chat07:21
nickolidam is there an easier way to get gstreamer07:22
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crimsungst comes with ubuntu07:22
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nickolithen why cant i play mp3's ?07:22
chazwurthHas anyone found a solution to the problem of not being able to suspend/resume a laptop using the proprietary Nvidia drivers?07:22
crimsunnickoli: did you install 'gstreamer0.8-mad' from universe?07:23
epicenterIs there a way to get transcode for AMD64?07:23
epicenterI can't find it in any repositories.07:23
nickolilet me try this again,07:23
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ellsnickoli, I have been there07:23
nickoliThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:24
nickoliis only available from another source07:24
nickoliE: Package gstreamer0.8-mad has no installation candidate07:24
crimsunnickoli: you have to enable universe first.07:24
ellsnickoli: try installing the file with all the gstreamer files and reboot07:24
crimsunwiki/UniversePackages07:24
nickoliahh could have told me this a long time ago07:24
crimsunnickoli: I did.07:24
nickoliwell i wasnt paying attention07:24
crimsunI don't think the blame's mine.07:25
nickoliso how do i enable the universe or w/e07:25
ellsnickoli: lIke I said, I have been there before07:25
crimsunread the url.07:25
dazed_sup people07:25
MM2I tried apt-get dist-upgrade on 2 comps yesterday. Both of them had serious problems :(07:25
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nickolidam debian apt was so much better07:26
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crimsunnickoli: it's the _same_ apt - actually, Ubuntu's is newer07:27
nickoliwell i want to add my own set of servers07:28
thoreauputicnickoli: once you enable universe and multiverse, you won't notice any difference07:28
nickolithis is comparable to when i tried to install gentoo07:28
chazwurthnickoli: How's doing that any different than in Debian? Edit sources.list, no?07:28
thoreauputicnickoli: and look at the wiki page for Restricted Formats07:29
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nickoliok well i just uncommented everything in the list page07:29
dazed_im so high i want to do something07:30
nickolisweet dude07:30
nickoliType 'Debian' is not known on line 26 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list07:30
chazwurthnickoli: You might want to take a look at the unofficial starter guide as well ( www.ubuntuguide.org ); I found it helpful as a checklist if nothing else.07:30
thoreauputicnickoli: you stuffed up, obviously :)07:30
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BlackLabelhas anyone installed a bootsplash like from bootsplash.de?07:31
nickoliomfg f u source list07:32
Echylowhy are you adding debian nickoli07:33
thoreauputicnickoli: hope you backed up the original... of course, that's atandard practice so I'm sure you did07:34
nickolihttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs its telling me too07:34
thoreauputic*standard07:34
geneo91anyone use rioutil07:34
nickoliomfg kill me07:35
Echylowhat did you do wrong?07:35
nickoliit cant be done gstreamer non-existent package07:35
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geneo91gstreamer0.807:36
thoreauputicapt-cache search gstreamer >> gstreamer0.8-mad07:36
nickolinot in there07:36
nickoliand the wiki site no help07:36
thoreauputicrubbish07:36
thoreauputicfix your sources07:36
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thoreauputicnickoli: funny, lots of people have done it without any problem - you must be special I guess07:37
geneo91thoreauputic:  how can i get this to see my usb rio 80007:37
nickolithoreauputic yea everything in linux does me over07:38
thoreauputicgeneo91: I have no idea, sorry07:38
geneo91crimsun:  any ideas07:38
chazwurthnickoli: may I message you?07:38
nickolii dont care07:38
crimsungeneo91: "rio 800"?07:38
geneo91yes07:39
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geneo91i have rioutil installed07:39
crimsungeneo91: I don't know what that is.07:39
crimsunwhat either of those are07:39
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geneo91crimsun:  its an mp3's player connects via usb07:40
crimsungeneo91: ok. I've never used rioutil, so...07:40
MistaEDhey anyone here experienced messing about with a generic aiptek tablet with ubuntu?07:40
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MistaEDcompiling gaiptek is a nightmare07:41
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nickoliright now im flipping off apt cause i just owned it07:42
geneo91man for rio is kinda slim07:43
stasok good night friends07:43
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shad0w1eok I replaced all instances of warty with hoary, ran apt-get update, then upgrade. and its stil using the old kernel. any suggestions?07:44
Echyloyou did dist-upgrade ?07:44
shad0w1eno07:44
crimsunshad0w1e: did you reboot after you dist-upgraded?07:44
Echylodo it then07:44
Echylo:)07:44
thoreauputicshad0w1e: dist-upgrade07:44
Echylosudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:44
shad0w1eah thanks07:44
nickoliit wont let me do root pswd from a standard account07:45
shad0w1ewil that also give me a graphical startup screen?07:45
Echylono07:45
shad0w1eok after doing this update, all my fonts changed07:45
Echylodo the dist-upgrade :)07:45
shad0w1etheir nicer now..07:45
Echylooh07:45
kkathmanshad0w1e: what did you do to get your fonts nicer ?07:46
shad0w1eapt-get update07:46
shad0w1ethen apt-get upgrade07:46
kkathmanhmm that shouldnt do anything to your fonts tho :)07:46
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shad0w1e(after changing all instances of warty to hoary in sources.lst)07:46
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kkathmanoh probably you did a dist-upgrade then07:46
shad0w1emind you I'm also talking about using gnome apps under KDE07:46
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shad0w1en07:46
dazed_nickoli have u enabled ur repos yet?07:47
punehey can anyone help me, I'm trying to install ndiswrapper on Hoary07:47
shad0w1edist-upgrade found more packages07:47
nickolidazed_ what07:47
kkathmanupdate only sets up your repositories doesnt do anything else07:47
shad0w1eeven more07:47
shad0w1edammit ive been updating for days07:47
shad0w1ehow many updates!07:47
goldfishlol07:47
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Choubakashad0w1e: it's broken? :)07:47
shad0w1eoh btw if you want gnome apps to look better under kde, theres something called qt-gtm07:47
kkathmanshad0w1e: you should only have to update once really now07:47
shad0w1eor something..07:47
punedoes anyone know anything about ndiswrapper?07:48
kkathmanshad0w1e: and even then if you installed from a 5.04 hoary final, that probably doesnt need much at all07:48
shad0w1eyes07:48
shad0w1eim using it07:48
kkathmanpune: I think you have to compile that somehow, but I dont know07:48
shad0w1eoh let me ask. i am using ndiswrapper07:48
kkathmanits a kernel module I think07:48
shad0w1ei just updated to hoary07:48
shad0w1eis it POSSIBLE that i dont need ndiswrapper anymore?07:48
goldfishapt-get install ndiswrapper-utils07:48
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locomortoyes07:48
kkathmanshad0w1e: probably you dont07:49
locomortowhata card do you have07:49
shad0w1emicrosoft07:49
goldfishhah07:49
locomortomodel no07:49
punekkathman, well, it's telling me I need to include a shortcut to my kernel07:49
shad0w1eI did notice when booting uup07:49
shad0w1edam i wish i remember07:49
Choubakadmesg?07:49
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shad0w1ewhen i was booting up there was no longer an error07:49
jhdoanhi does anyone know how to use wine ?07:49
shad0w1ethere always used to be07:49
punekkathman, I need to compile it?07:49
jldugger_shad0w1e, lspci will probably help you remember07:49
goldfishpune: u can get it in the repositories07:49
jhdoando i always need to use command or does it have a gui07:49
locomortojhdoan: yes07:49
kkathmanpune: dont know I dont use it07:49
goldfish*repos :)07:49
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jhdoanlocomorto, im trying to get it to work with winamp07:50
locomortojhdoan: command07:50
punegoldfish, how do I do that?07:50
Choubakajhdoan: no gui. though you may want to try gfsgl.sf.net :p07:50
jhdoanit opens and the text looks alittle funny, but when i play music. it crashes07:50
punegoldfish, the repository setup has changed in hoary07:50
goldfishpune: apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils07:50
locomortotry using Beep Media Player (bmp)07:50
goldfishpune: ah07:50
shad0w1eunknown device 432507:50
shad0w1ecould that be it?07:50
Choubakabeep sucks. :|07:50
Choubakait's unstable.07:50
punegoldfish, ok, I'll try it07:50
locomortodoes not07:50
goldfishhmmmmm....07:50
locomortoit is stable for me07:50
kkathmanwhy not just use amarok, its the same thing almost :)07:50
locomortonever crashed once07:50
goldfishamarok is cool07:50
thoreauputiclocomorto: lucky you07:51
dudemanhey guys i think the tunepimp package does not support mp3 tagging07:51
punegoldfish, ok, I already have that installed07:51
thoreauputiclocomorto: it crashes and freezes here07:51
jhdoanthe reason i want to use winamp because it supports milkdrop07:51
shad0w1eby modprobe I used to get 2 errors I believe (during boot)07:51
locomortomilkdrop?07:51
shad0w1eI no longer get them07:51
Choubakajhdoan: hm07:51
jhdoanits a visuzlisation for winamp07:51
shad0w1eits amazing but every update i do, it just runs faster and faster07:52
ChoubakaI doubt you'll get it working.07:52
shad0w1efirst kde to 3.407:52
locomortoyou could try playing the media with totem then07:52
shad0w1ethen upgrade07:52
shad0w1eits nuts07:52
shad0w1ebut im not complaining07:52
locomortoi get a nice visulation with it07:52
shad0w1eim using an old p2 266 with 192 ram, and its running quite fine now!07:52
kkathmanshad0w1e: I dont understand why you'd be updating so much07:52
locomortoor you could look for XMMS plugins which work for BMP as well07:52
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nickoliis it difficult to install kde onto ubuntu07:52
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[nrx] shad0w1e, with gnome?07:52
shad0w1eno kde07:52
Choubakanickoli: no.07:52
jhdoanmilkdrop is the shit tho07:53
locomortonickoli: no07:53
Choubakaapt-get install kde07:53
shad0w1ei got kubuntu-desktop07:53
nickoliChoubaka i was considering it for some apps07:53
[nrx] shad0w1e, is it fast enough?07:53
shad0w1eno07:53
shad0w1eits getting there, actually...07:53
locomortonickoli: you might want to look at kubuntu tho07:53
deFrysknickoli, sudp apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:53
shad0w1emaybe some more updates!07:53
[nrx] shad0w1e, thought of xfce4?07:53
Choubakahmm07:53
shad0w1eor fluxbox?07:53
shad0w1eyes i have07:53
locomortonickoli" you dont need to run KDE to run KDE apps07:53
goldfishpune: well u need to get the driver of your card07:53
shad0w1etried them both07:53
kkathmanshad0w1e: what are you updating?07:53
locomortoyou just need some libarys07:53
shad0w1eright now?07:53
shad0w1edist-upgrade07:53
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geneo91deFrysk:  thats not really needed kde is fine07:53
locomortothe package manager will take care of them07:53
nickolilocomorto tru07:53
Choubakaxfce4 is the best.07:54
kkathmanshad0w1e: you only need to dist-upgrade once07:54
goldfishpune: if you search ubuntu forums, there is a good howto linked in it for ndiswrapper, i used that, cant rememer the link off-hand,07:54
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shad0w1ekkatthman: this is my first time07:54
[nrx] uses*07:54
ChoubakaI might try KDE though at some point07:54
[nrx] goldfish, there's also #ndiswrapper on here :)07:54
shad0w1ewil dist-upgrade upgrade my kernel?07:54
nickoliChoubaka i used it on mdk07:54
goldfishkubuntu-desktop seems nice07:54
punegoldfish, damn't every time I have a problem, i got online, and then it's fixed07:54
kkathmanshad0w1e: ahh ok...well you shouldnt have many updates from now on07:54
Choubakabut not until I figure out how to make japanese support work.07:54
ChoubakaPROPERLY.07:54
goldfish[nrx] : hehe didn't know that :)07:54
shad0w1eof course, development on hoary has stopped07:55
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shad0w1enow its breeze07:55
jerretthalo07:55
[nrx] goldfish, :)07:55
goldfishpune: heh, so it's working? :)07:55
shad0w1ei mean07:55
punegoldfish, why won't something actually be broken and i need to fix it07:55
shad0w1ebreezy07:55
ChoubakaI am not going to make any wrapper scripts :(07:55
jerrettim having a problem installing.. it hangs at "starting pc card services"07:55
goldfishpune: lol07:55
punegoldfish, well, i've got ndiswrapper running07:55
goldfishk07:55
punegoldfish, i'll probably be back though. lol07:55
punegoldfish, thanks07:55
goldfishyou fixed it :)07:55
deFryskbreezy is development and packages are pooring in there (not sure if they are safe to use though)07:56
jerrettanyone know what could be the problem?07:56
shad0w1emy card is mn72007:56
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shad0w1eis it natively supported by linux yet?07:56
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locomortono07:57
shad0w1elocomorto: positive?07:57
locomortoyes07:57
shad0w1eok so ill leave ndiswrapper in then07:57
shad0w1ethanks07:57
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shad0w1eIm  using ndiswrapper 1.007:57
shad0w1eshould i update?07:57
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locomortoi wouldn;t have a clue07:58
locomortoi dont use it07:58
shad0w1eok thanks ill see whats out07:58
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kkathmanIm not sure why one needs ndiswrapper?07:59
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shad0w1eto get their wireless cards working on linux without linux drivers, duh07:59
shad0w1ekkathman: got a better solution?08:00
[nrx] shad0w1e, there are others out there :)08:00
kkathmanweird...mine works native08:00
zerokarmaleftis there a way to configure fonts in gnome so east asian characters use a larger size, while english characters use a smaller size?08:00
shad0w1efor $10 after rebate?08:00
kkathmanI dont think I ever installed anything08:00
cikilinis normal in the folder Filesystem home to be 7,8 g and the rest of folders 9 g?08:00
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[nrx] kkathman, not all wlan cards' chipsets are supported natively08:00
shad0w1eits ironic using a microsoft wireless adapter on linux. oh well.08:01
kkathmanahh ok...kewl08:01
dazed_goldfish i havent seen u in a while08:01
thoreauputickkathman: yours was supported, obviously08:01
shad0w1enow they own lindspire (lindows) so who knows...08:01
kkathmanyep, guess so...its a standard USB08:01
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shad0w1ei think microsoft is gonna adapt linux core in like 3-4 versions08:01
kkathmanyeah right...you keep thinking that :)08:02
shad0w1eonce linux can really (REALLY) ((REALLY)) run windows apps, microsoft is gonna adapt it08:02
thoreauputicshad0w1e: um - where did you get that information (owning linspire) ?08:02
cikilinwhy Filesystem is getting bigger everyday?08:02
chazwurthDoes anyone know offhand how to extend the default timeout on sudo? I'm really not in the mood to read the novel that is the sudoers man page, or try to remember what little I know about EBNF.08:02
shad0w1ethey bought lindows and changed the name to lindspire08:02
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locomortocikilin sudo apt-get install xdiskspace08:03
thoreauputicshad0w1e: erm, no they didn't08:03
chazwurthshad0w1e: Microsoft? They don't own Linspire.08:03
locomortoand then08:03
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locomortoxdiskspace08:03
cikilink08:03
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shad0w1ei was so sure..08:03
chazwurthshad0w1e: The name had to be changed as a result of a lawsuit brought by Microsoft. No ownership of anything changed.08:03
locomortoxdiskusage*08:03
thoreauputicshad0w1e: well, you were wrong08:03
shad0w1ei thought they lost the court battle and then just bought it.08:03
shad0w1eoh08:03
robitaillechazwurth,  15minutes08:03
thoreauputicfortunately08:04
dukenhow to start up the firewall every reboot system ?08:04
kkathmanthoreauputic: hehe...yeah..like its in M$ interest to go to linux?08:04
shad0w1eit will be, not yet though08:04
chazwurthrobitaille: Err, yeah, but how do you change the default?08:04
thoreauputickkathman: only to close down the company as they so often do08:04
dazedsup everyone08:04
kkathmanshad0w1e: when you own 95+% of the world's desktops, you kinda dont need to go and get something else :)08:04
shad0w1egood point, but i stil think their gonna adapt linux08:05
kkathmanthoreauputic: true...buy and kill08:05
shad0w1enot in the next 5 years08:05
shad0w1eprob more like 8 years08:05
benplautwhat is the best alternate window manager (easy to install) for Gnome?08:05
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kkathmanshad0w1e: why do they need to...they have no motivation lol :)08:05
thoreauputicshad0w1e: it's completely not in their interest08:05
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kkathmanbenplaut: Gnome IS a window manager08:06
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kkathmanwell a desktop manager :)08:06
GuruFFhello! mplayer - alsa - compilation = biiiiiiiiiiiig problem; would anyone help ?08:06
goldfishdazed: hey, yeah been a bit busy with college projects :)08:06
jerrettanyone know what could cause it to hang on "starting pc card services" while trying to install?08:06
thoreauputickkathman: um, no08:06
kkathmanno what?08:06
thoreauputicmetacity is the curent default wm for gnome08:06
shad0w1eI think linux may become a real threat08:06
shad0w1esome day..08:06
robitaillechazwurth,  Defaults:username    timestamp_timeout=-108:06
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robzulahAny idea why when I try to install KDE it tells me: "Depends: *filename* but is not going to be installed" on some files then not install the package?08:07
shad0w1ehmm08:07
chazwurthrobitaille: Thank you very much08:07
thoreauputickkathman: gnome has a window manager - so does kde08:07
shad0w1emy kernel is updating to 2.6.1008:07
robitaillechazwurth,      Defaults:jim    timestamp_timeout=10        for 15 minutes (in /etc/sudoers)08:07
shad0w1ewhy not 2.6.11 ?08:07
kkathmanshad0w1e: linux probably has more of a chance to give mac a run than ms08:07
shad0w1emac IS linux08:07
kkathmanthoreauputic: I guess Im misread...sorry...I was thinking desktop manager08:07
goldfishhehe08:07
Amaranthshad0w1e: No it isn't.08:07
jerrettmac is bsd08:07
Amaranthgoldfish: Get out of here. :P08:07
thoreauputicshad0w1e: no again08:07
shad0w1egrr08:07
shad0w1emac is darwin08:08
thoreauputicshad0w1e: Darwin is freeBSD based08:08
kkathmanuhm mac os isnt linux08:08
goldfishTiger is out soon. Wonder how it will do.08:08
robzulahmac is crap08:08
shad0w1eisnt freebsd really slow08:08
robzulahthough I use mac08:08
shad0w1elike for personal-use08:08
crimsunplease don't spread FUD.08:08
shad0w1ebetter for servers08:08
goldfishmas ox is cool08:08
shad0w1e?08:08
thoreauputicshad0w1e: are you joking?08:08
topylishad0w1e: no, freebsd is really fast08:08
AmaranthDarwin is a Mach kernel with a mix of BSDs on top, mostly FreeBSD.08:08
goldfishAmaranth: :)08:08
shad0w1eso why use linux and not freebsd08:09
chazwurthshad0w1e: Not particularly. It did fine on a 600MHz celeron I installed it on a few months ago.08:09
chazwurthshad0w1e: Preference.08:09
shad0w1eas in what08:09
Amaranthshad0w1e: Good question. Why don't you? :)08:09
topylishad0w1e: it's the apps08:09
shad0w1ethey have kde for frebsd08:09
thoreauputicshad0w1e: depends what you want to do08:09
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Amaranthshad0w1e: Not all apps written for linux will work on FreeBSD.08:09
geneo91i see why it dont work the debs are compiled without libusb08:09
shad0w1efrom what ive been told. bsd works better when under stress, but linux is faster for personal use08:09
chazwurthshad0w1e: If you have a spare box lying around, install it and play around.08:09
Amaranthshad0w1e: And afaik the Project Utopia stack is Linux only.08:09
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behare there any good p2p programs i can install through apt?08:10
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topylishad0w1e: from what i've been told, buddhism is better than islam. why don't you try some systems and make up your mind08:10
chazwurthshad0w1e: Broad-brush statements like that tend to be less than accurate.08:10
Amaranthbeh: Apollon for KDE, giFToxic for GNOME.08:10
jerrettbleh08:10
zenroxbeh, gtk-guntella08:10
benplautkkathman: no, Gnome is a desktop environment that uses the Metacity WM08:10
jerrettso nobody can help me with my installation ? :\08:10
behAmaranth: what network is giFToxic on08:11
behor use08:11
behi mean08:11
kkathmanbenplaut: thanks for that clarification...appreciate the knowledge :)08:11
GuruFFmplayer + alsa = help me please :)08:11
benplautno prob'08:11
Amaranthbeh: It can do OpenFT, gnutella, and FastTrack, you just need to get the gift-fasttrack plugin.08:11
chazwurthjerrett: What problem are you having?08:11
deFryskGuruFF, thats not a question08:11
shad0w1ehow many MB is a kernel?08:11
kkathmanbenplaut: what WM does KDE use?08:12
jerrettwhen i try to install it hangs at "Starting PC Card services"08:12
Amaranthshad0w1e: depends on the kernel08:12
GuruFFdeFrysk; noone reacts for proper question08:12
shad0w1e2.6.1008:12
shad0w1eim talking about, roughly08:12
benplautkkathman: not sure... never looked into it08:12
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deFryskGuruFF, noonre react to pleas for sure08:12
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benplauti think they use their own... kwin?08:12
kkathmanbenplaut: ahh ok...just was asking...I'd rather get the facts08:12
Amaranthshad0w1e: depends on what is has compiled and, what compiler was used, what version of the kernel, and what arch it's for.08:12
chazwurthjerrett: I have no idea, but I'd take a look at the boot options for the install cd.08:12
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shad0w1eim not talking about custom compiled08:12
shad0w1elets say , generally08:13
Fazerpestilence: You there?08:13
_chavokkathman, KDE's window manager is called kwin.08:13
AmaranthOh, you mean the Ubuntu kernel?08:13
shad0w1eubuntu 2.6.1008:13
zerokarmaleftjerrett, describe your problem08:13
shad0w1eyeah08:13
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jerrettzerokarmaleft: again? :o08:13
Fazerpestilence: I don't think I can mount a USB drive.  There's no such thing as /dev/sd*08:13
jerrettwhen i try to install it hangs at "Starting PC Card Services"08:13
kkathman_chavo: thank you for that information...I appreciate that :)08:13
zerokarmaleftjerrett, i wasn't here, sry08:13
Amaranthshad0w1e: No idea, check. :P08:13
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FazerI think my USB port doesnt work with Ubuntu08:13
GuruFFdeFrysk; :) huh maby you are right; i want to have alsa for mplayer, but mplayer during ./configure does not detect alsa, i have alsa running 1.0.5 and just want to know what i'm missing to get it working :)08:13
shad0w1ewhen i update my kernel, i still have the option to boot to old one, yes?08:13
crimsunGuruFF: you need libasound2-dev08:13
Amaranthshad0w1e: Yes.08:13
thoreauputicshad0w1e: yes08:14
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shad0w1ebut everything else is the same?08:14
GuruFFcrimsun; thx<:)08:14
kkathman_chavo: I like just sitting and reading what comes across the line here...you learn alot08:14
Amaranthshad0w1e: Yes.08:14
zerokarmaleftjerrett, are you intalling on a laptop?08:14
shad0w1esame kde08:14
jerrettyes08:14
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FazerCan anyone tell me why my USB mouse or even any other USB device isn't working?08:14
crimsunGuruFF: keep in mind my mplayer backport has support for it already.08:14
Amaranthshad0w1e: Only the kernel changes.08:14
deFryskGuruFF, that was quick :D08:14
_chavoYes you sure do.08:14
Amaranthshad0w1e: All your apps, all your settings are the same.08:14
crimsunGuruFF: though I recommend you dist-upgrade to Hoary.08:14
chazwurthjerrett: I'm finding some stuff with google, I'll let you know if I turn up something promising08:14
jerretti found stuff on google, but very little, and none of it was helpfull08:14
shad0w1ehow do ifind out my booted kernel version08:14
crimsununame -r08:14
zerokarmaleftjerrett, are you using any pc cards atm?08:14
shad0w1esweet thanks08:15
jerrettnope, they are all empty08:15
GuruFFcrimsun; can i prv ?08:15
Fazerso, uh..no08:15
shad0w1ecan I install kde 3.2 and KDE 3.4 together and choose between them?08:15
crimsunGuruFF: I'd rather keep it in-channel if you don't mind.08:15
goldfishlol08:15
goldfishLet's get intimate!08:15
rempresenthas anyone here tried cedega08:15
rempresent?08:15
rempresentis it worth the coin?08:15
goldfishnope08:15
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goldfishhaven't tried it that is08:15
zerokarmaleftjerrett, how about ctrl-c'ing when it gets to that point in init to see if it'll finish booting?08:16
bur[n] erit works with warcraft3, but not as fast as it did in windows08:16
shad0w1eits supposed to play NEW games08:16
shad0w1eok thanks guys for your help08:16
bur[n] erit will also play starcraft08:16
shad0w1eim gonna reboot and check out my new kernel08:16
rempresentwhat about Wo08:16
rempresentW08:16
rempresentWoW08:16
goldfishhalf life 3 aswell08:16
jerrettsec, lemme try that08:16
dazedhows everyone doing today08:16
bur[n] ergoldfish: notice that it is a bit slower in linux than windows08:16
punegoldfish, ok, I'm back, I knew I would have a problem, anyway, the driver I downloaded is a .exe?08:16
GuruFFcrimsun; this one is really low... u mean some other upgrade then just going to synaptic package manager and pressing 'mark for upgrades' and 'apply' ?08:16
punegoldfish, did I miss something here?08:16
goldfishemmmm08:17
goldfishhold on a second pune08:17
Fazeromg really?08:17
FazerUSB isn't working with linux?08:17
FazerNo dude, totally08:17
Fazerbummer08:17
Fazertotally08:17
AmaranthFazer: ...08:17
crimsunGuruFF: use Synaptic to install libasound2-dev08:17
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Fazerfinally, i got attentoin!08:17
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AmaranthFazer: And you're not getting any help from me, either. :P08:18
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FazerAmaranth: I didn't ask for your help08:18
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kkathmanFazer:  have you tried the unbuntu forums?  Try the search there...might give you answers you need :)08:18
AmaranthFazer: 1) Because that was annoying and 2) because I don't know sh!t about USB. :)08:18
GuruFFcrimsun; did that and thanks for that; i'm talikng about upgrading to hoary...08:18
Fazerkkathman: I don't know, all the other 600E users don't seem to be having problems.08:18
crimsunFazer: I presume you've ensured that it (the usb host controller) is assigned an irq?08:19
Fazercrimsun: I am not sure...08:19
goldfishpune: what card u got?08:19
FazerShouldn't it automatically do that, atleast in the Live CD?08:19
kkathmanFazer: Go to the ubuntuforms, click on the hardware section and search for USB...there is a whole list of things there08:19
crimsunFazer: that's where I'd start troubleshooting.08:20
behhow do i know if giFToxic has connected to a network08:20
punegoldfish, a dell truemobile 135008:20
goldfishah right08:20
jerrettctrl c doesnt work08:20
jerretttotally hung :(08:20
Fazerkkathman: Uhm, this is for an old Thinkpad08:20
topylibeh: all your pr0n starts updoading :)08:20
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behhar har08:20
zerokarmaleftjerrett, wow hrm08:20
Fazercrimsun: Uhm... I don't understand at all08:21
FazerIRQ?08:21
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dazedwhats the prob Fazer?08:21
crimsunFazer: look in the bios when you reboot and make sure your bios assigns the usb controller an irq08:21
chazwurthjerrett: someone seems to have gotten around a similar problem by booting with 'linux noapic nolapic' at the boot prompt; dunno if that has anything to do with it; still looking.08:21
crimsunsomething like "Enable USB"08:21
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jerretttried that chazwurth08:22
Fazerdazed: I don't think USB is workgin at all with Ubuntu08:22
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Fazercrimsun: I am not sure what to do since XP works with it fine.08:22
Fazerand that this is a Thinkpad08:22
crimsunFazer: XP isn't Linux. You should check the bios setting.08:22
FazerThinkpad 600E seems to not have such problems when I search08:22
Fazercrimsun: i did, the Thinkpad's BIOS is like a Joy-Joy-Happyland thing08:22
FazerThe BIOS itself is GUI08:22
Choubakadoes Linux even care about the bios? :P08:22
jerretttrying with disabling pcmcia08:22
Fazerjerrett: Talking to me?08:23
jerrettno08:23
FazerOh okay.08:23
bur[n] erFazer: how do you know your usb doesn't work?08:23
dazedi get usb errors when i boot up aswell but my mouse is usb and it works fine and i think my usb cards do too08:23
jerretthm that worked08:23
jerretti just had to disable pcmcia08:23
cikilinlocomorto:08:23
ChoubakaFazer: see dmesg08:23
thoreauputicChoubaka: if it didn't, it wouldn't boot at all ;)08:23
Fazerbur[n] er: My USB mouse doesn't work after I boot into the Live CD.08:23
FazerChoubaka: Eh?08:23
bur[n] erhrm... livecd blows ass08:23
bur[n] erbut that's a side note... it should work08:23
Choubakarun dmesg in console08:24
Choubakaand look for usb08:24
bur[n] erFazer: does "lsusb" show anything?08:24
Fazerbur[n] er: Yeah well, USB worked fine on the desktop a while ago with Warty08:24
FazerRight now, all I have access to is my laptop08:24
Fazerand I am on XP talking to you guys08:24
Fazeras my Ethernet won't be detected with Ubuntu08:24
zerokarmaleftjerrett, /var/log/kern.log have anything interesting to say when it locked up on previous boots?08:24
chazwurthjerrett: sweet08:24
Choubakaah. .p08:24
yfirdmesg | grep usb might save a little time08:24
FazerI checked the Hardware List in Ubuntu08:24
bur[n] erFazer: ethernet doesn't work either?08:24
jerretti dont have a /var/log/kern.log , its booting of a cd ;o08:25
jerrettnow it's hanging at detecting hardware, please wait08:25
jerrettbah!08:25
Fazerbur[n] er: Haha, my PCMCIA ethernet card blinks and the modem shows PC activity but I can't do jack shit.08:25
bur[n] erinstall hoary :)08:25
Fazerfuck THAT, what if it just doesn't work. period?08:25
Fazerand it says Intel balh blah for the USB thing when I go into the Hardware List thingy, forgot its name.08:25
ChoubakaThen it must be fixed.08:25
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topyliFazer: at least on warty, the live cd and install system were completely different08:25
bur[n] erwell, it's tough to troubleshoot when you're not booted into it08:26
behcan someone please tell me how i can get giftd to connect to a network08:26
chazwurthjerrett: I can't find anything in the forums that seems relevant. I'd keep playing with the boot options; dunno what to tell you.08:26
Fazertopyli: I tried Warty on my Desktop, it was fine.  I try Warty on my laptop, i get kernel panics during the Live CD boot sequence.08:26
dazedbeh windows or linux?08:26
goldfishpune: have u got windows?08:26
behlinux08:26
behi have a ui for it08:26
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behgifToxic08:26
dazedbeh: you have nfs for it?08:26
Fazerbur[n] er: That won't solve any of my problems sinc ein the Live CD, I have to manually Activate the eth0 shit, it gets my IP address fine, but nothing happens.08:26
bur[n] erheh... i say it again... get hoary ;)08:26
topyliFazer: again, completely different systems08:26
behdazed what's that08:26
punegoldfish, yes, on a seperate boot08:26
behdazed i instaled giftd through apt and edited the config08:27
behdazed and ran gifToxic08:27
bur[n] erFazer: u could set the gateway manually too08:27
dazedbeh: get nfs-common nfs-server nfs-kernel-server , get anything beginning with nfs08:27
bur[n] erFazer: route add -net default gw 192.168.1.1  (for example)08:27
Fazerbur[n] er: Another person a while ago said that it would be pointless08:27
dazedbeh: get it through apt-get08:27
bur[n] eror just "sudo dhclient eth0"08:27
Fazeras when I ping something08:27
goldfishpune: ok, sorry for the delay, if u install the exe on windws, and get the .inf file from where it installs to, thats the file u need08:27
Fazerit doesn't showing anything for a long while08:27
bur[n] erso?08:28
punegoldfish08:28
bur[n] erbtw, why do you want the livecd to work anyway?08:28
cikilinwhy Filesystem is getting bigger everyday?help08:28
punegoldfish, wait, let me try that again, thanks08:28
bur[n] eri didn't get the initial reason08:28
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goldfishpune: kk08:28
geneo91crimsun:  i found a newer version of rioutils08:28
BlackLabelhas anyone installed a bootsplash like from bootsplash.de?08:28
behdazed synaptic will only let me choose nfs kernel server or nfs user server not both08:28
bur[n] erBlackLabel: u need to make a custom kernel with bootsplash compiled in08:28
geneo91 crimsun do i need to remove the old before in compile new one08:29
dazedbeh: it has to let you get both08:29
dazedi have both right now08:29
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stashi08:29
behdazed what is nfs anyways08:29
stashow do I assign a global keybinding08:29
stasin ubuntu?08:29
crimsungeneo91: more than likely, yes - if the old one was provided by a Ubuntu package.08:29
Fazermaan this fucking sucks ass08:29
cikilinhelloooooooo08:29
staseg ctrl-alt-s to run 3ddesk08:29
FazerXP sucks but Linux is just a fucking nightmare08:29
dazedbeh: nfs is the server for linux file sharing...you NEED it08:29
geneo91crimsun:  yes08:30
crimsunFazer: the livecd is by no means identical to the install cd08:30
behdazed well i installed kernel server and now i double click user server and it says to be removed kernel server08:30
goldfishFazer: When u get it set up, it wont feel so bad.08:30
goldfishyeah08:30
behdazed wont let me do both08:30
cikilinwhy Filesystem is getting bigger everyday?08:30
goldfishtry the install cd08:30
Fazergoldfish: Uh, I need USB first.08:30
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dazedbeh let me get into synaptic ill look again08:31
behk08:31
crimsunFazer: you haven't exactly provided diagnosing aid other than "it's broken, this sucks, ..."08:31
Fazercrimsun: So...uh, how do you explain this: When I launch the Install CD and shit, my USB mouse just...shuts off.  Is it supposed to do that till the end?  I don't think so...I think it shoud remain "on", right?08:31
benplaut(i guess i'll ask again) What are good alternate WMs for Gnome?08:31
Fazercrimsun: Since at the moment, the only PC I have access to is this thinkpad.08:31
Fazerif I had my desktop on my side, I could be talking to you on it while have my thinkpad ready for "diagnostic"08:31
crimsunFazer: post your lspci -v and dmesg to pastebin.com. Use a floppy diskette.08:31
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FazerA friend of mine told me I have to disable/enable USB Legacy08:32
topylibenplaut: sawfish, enlightenment are the classics. i think some people use openbox too08:32
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FazerBy going into the BIOS08:32
behdazed i need /usr/lib/giFT/libGnutella.la08:32
behdazed giftd says it doesnt exist what package has it08:32
behnvm its in apt08:33
FazerI have no idea where that option is in the Thinkpad08:33
cikilinis anybody want to help me please!08:33
crimsunFazer: it'd be in the advanced or pci options.08:33
dazedbeh: are you using synaptic to get these packages what is this "giftd"08:33
geneo91crimsun:  there is no makefile08:33
chazwurthcikilin: What's the problem?08:33
Fazercrimsun: I checked in every option, its a BIOS that has the ability to be navigated using a mouse08:33
crimsungeneo91: ...and?08:33
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dazedbeh: get nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server08:34
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geneo91well it says to make then cd to debian i would think cd to debian first08:34
benplauttopyli: i saw "gnome-sawfish" in the repositories, but i am a bit wary of just installing the packages... is this the correct package to install?08:34
beh.This daemon is the core component of the giFT project, a peer-to-peer08:34
behfilesharing abstraction layer capable of utilizing multiple networks08:34
behsimultaneously while providing a single consistent interface to the user08:34
behthrough their preferred giFT client interface. The daemon uses a simple08:34
behTCP/IP protocol to interact with the user and is capable of accepting both08:34
behlocal and remote connections depending on configuration.08:35
topylibenplaut: i guess. then "killall metacity ; sleep 2 ; sawfish" and save your session08:35
Fazerthis is interesting, so this laptop is pretty much a peace of shit!08:35
crimsungeneo91: I've never used it08:35
Fazerway to go IBM!08:35
crimsungeneo91: so it's best if you follow the directions it provides08:35
geneo91crimsun:  has a makefile am and makefile.in08:35
stashow do I assign a global keybinding in ubuntu?08:36
staseg ctrl-alt-s to run 3ddesk08:36
crimsungeneo91: is there a README or INSTALL?08:36
chazwurthFazer: Have you checked out tuxmobile or linux-laptop?08:36
crimsungeneo91: generally there would be a ./configure08:36
dazedbeh: well ihave no idea what that is you might need samba if its tcp/ip but if its to linux theres a much easier way using nfs...and u need nfs to share to linux anyway08:36
geneo91did that already crimsun08:36
Fazerchazwurth: Hmm...no, No i haven't.08:36
crimsungeneo91: and there's no Makefile in the top-level?08:36
benplauttopyli: thanks!08:36
chazwurthFazer: http://tuxmobile.org and http://www.linux-laptop.net08:36
chazwurthFazer: They may have pages on your particular model08:37
behdazed: installed the gnutella lib now i just edit the gnutella conf and giftd will be able to connect to the gnutella network08:37
BlackLabelcould anyone help me adding a bootsplash to my kubuntu box?08:37
chazwurthFazer: They have thousands of models listed; you might find something useful.08:37
geneo91no imlooking at readme following the instructions and it dont have plain makefile08:37
dazedbeh: yes should be able to...08:37
behdazed: yeah earlier i didnt have the gnutella lib installed but now i figured it out08:37
dazedbeh: you trying to share to a local network or just gnutella network08:38
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behdazed: gnutella network08:38
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geneo91        % ./configure [options]  % make % cd debian % sh build_dpkg.sh08:38
dazedbeh: ahh i thought you were trying to share to a linux computer on local08:38
dazedbeh: my bad08:38
behdazed no prob08:38
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geneo91thats it crimsun08:38
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Fazerchazwurth: Appreciate your help, but I think apart from my problems, is the damn USB thing..08:38
crimsungeneo91: so which commands have you already executed?08:38
CybermagellanAnyone here update to the Breezy sources?08:38
crimsunCybermagellan: yes, why?08:38
CybermagellanAre you running Firefox?08:39
bonee Breezy sources08:39
chazwurthFazer: Could be someone else has run into the problem and solved it already08:39
geneo91well the make gives me no such file08:39
boneehow can i make my linux run faster08:39
crimsungeneo91: in order to execute make, you need to have executed ./configure08:39
ChoubakaWhat cool does Breezy have? :p08:39
Fazerchazwurth: googling doesn't return much though08:39
crimsunCybermagellan: yes, why?08:39
geneo91bonee:  loads of memory08:39
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Cybermagellancan you try a website and see if you get it?08:40
geneo91crimsun:  i have08:40
Choubaka512 MB is enough for me. .|08:40
chazwurthFazer: Wish I could be more helpful; all I can tell you is that those sites have solved problems for me in the past, no guarantees08:40
thenukebonee: use some other desktop than gnome for example08:40
Cybermagellancybermagellan.com/Mozilla08:40
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Fazerchazwurth: Yes, I understand and thanks dude.08:40
boneewhat is a good one to use08:40
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crimsunCybermagellan: it errors08:40
Choubakabonee: xfce4.08:40
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chazwurthFazer: np08:40
crimsunCybermagellan: standard php name resolution stuff08:40
geneo91crimsun:  ok it cant find libusb08:41
Cybermagellanwhat are you getting? Because I can't even load it08:41
crimsungeneo91: so use packages.ubuntu.com to find which -dev package you need to install08:41
Choubakabonee: also check that you are running an optimised kernel.08:41
crimsungeneo91: even better, apt-get build-dep rioutil08:41
FazerI shall return tomorrow with the help of the desktop so you guys cna give me commands and I type them on the laptop08:41
goldfishgood luck Fazer08:41
boneewhere can i get that08:41
Choubakaan optimised kernel?08:42
geneo91crimsun:  i already installed rioutil before and it was with out any depends08:42
BlackLabelcould anyone help me adding a bootsplash to my kubuntu box?08:42
crimsungeneo91: but now you're trying to _compile_ it08:42
Choubakabonee: run uname -r in a terminal.08:42
crimsungeneo91: so you need the build-depends installed08:43
Choubakaand tell me what it says.08:43
geneo91can i just get libusb08:43
Fazergoldfish: thanks08:43
bonee2.6.8.1-3-38608:43
Choubakaok08:43
Fazeror there's always the Mac OS X that is way better than Linux and Windows!08:43
Choubakaversy probably not optimised.08:43
Fazerbut that shit costs hell of a lot of money08:43
Cybermagellancrimsun, can I PM you?08:43
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goldfishos x is cool08:43
Choubakabonee: what processor do you have?08:43
geneo91crimsun:  the one compiled for ubuntu doesn't use libusb08:44
boneeP4 2.56Ghz08:44
crimsunCybermagellan: keep it in-channel, please.08:44
Choubakainstall linux-image-86808:44
Choubakaerr08:44
Choubaka68608:44
Cybermagellanok, what are you getting when trying to load that page?08:44
chazwurthFazer: Eh, overrated. It's too much of a RAM hog, and as much as the GUI is great if you don't know what you're doing, I find it really annoying when I have to use it a lot.08:44
goldfishFazer: the live cd is nothing like the install cd, hopefully when u get ubuntu running you'll come to really like it :)08:44
crimsungeneo91: then use packages.ubuntu.com to find the relevant -dev package08:44
bonee???08:45
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Fazerchazwurth: Dislike the Mac OS X?08:45
Burgundaviagoldfish, Fazer the live and install cds are very very similar for a very good reason08:45
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chazwurthFazer: I don't particularly dislike it, and I recommend it to some people, but I do have some problems with it.08:45
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Choubakabonee: also, if you have nvidia and want to use the accelerated modules, install linux-restricted-modules-68608:46
Fazerchazwurth: What are those problems?08:46
Choubakaoh, btw.08:46
goldfishyes sorry, what i meant was for example, some problems i had on the live cd i didnt have after installing ubuntu08:46
Choubakais that P4 hyperthreading?08:46
boneenope08:46
Choubakaok. then those are fine08:46
Choubakainstall them08:46
goldfishcrimsun: you get alot of pm requests :)08:46
Burgundaviagoldfish, hmm, what issues?08:46
boneewhere do i get tit08:47
boneeit08:47
Choubakahm08:47
crimsungoldfish: heh.08:47
chazwurthFazer: I find that even though it's easy to figure things out in the GUI, once I get going, I don't get used to it. No matter how much I use it, I feel like it slows me down.08:47
Choubakaseems like you need to learn how to install packages.08:47
boneeyep08:47
goldfishBurgundavia: One was, After I connected to my ethernet, I couldnt run any apps after tha.08:47
geneo91crimsun:  ok needed libusb-dev08:47
Fazerchazwurth: Aah, I see.08:47
crimsunCybermagellan: see above. I've already closed the page.08:47
goldfish*that08:47
Choubakayou can use synaptic or aptitud or apt-get08:47
boneeapt-get08:47
Choubakaapt-get install packagename works08:47
Burgundaviagoldfish, that would be a bug. If you have replicate it, report it08:47
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Cybermagellancrimsun, standard php name resolution stuff. How does that help?08:48
goldfishoh right08:48
crimsunCybermagellan: sigh, hang a sec.08:48
boneewhat is the packagename08:48
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crimsunCybermagellan: join #flood08:48
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chazwurthFazer: also, although I haven't tracked the numbers, it really seems to eat ram. I'm fine with 512 on Linux; if I were to buy a mac, I feel like I'd have to bump it to a gig.08:49
crimsunCybermagellan: why aren't you testing this yourself...?08:49
CybermagellanBecause the damn page wont load08:49
Cybermagellanthat's why I'm here...08:49
Fazerchazwurth: No, a recent Windows / FreeBSD convert uses this Mac fine with 512 MB08:49
Fazerchazwurth: Also note that every OS released gets better and better on older hardware08:49
Choubaka:)08:49
FazerMac OS X that is.08:49
crimsunCybermagellan: I think you'll find more help in the php docs...08:49
Choubakabonee: I told you already. :p08:49
chazwurthFazer: Maybe it's just the configuration of the macs I use; I don't have any control over them.08:49
FazerLinux is just utter gayness.08:49
Cybermagellanthat's all I wanted to know...thanks08:50
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FazerLinux is fine for the server08:50
FazerI use it almost on a day to day basis08:50
Fazerbah08:50
geneo91crimsun:  now it stops here make[1] : *** [mp3.lo]  Error 108:50
Fazerchazwurth: Do you own a Mac?08:50
crimsungeneo91: satisfy all the build-dependencies first08:50
Choubaka09:44 < Choubaka> install linux-image-68608:50
Choubakaand linux-restricted-modules-68608:50
chazwurthFazer: Nope; I just use 'em 4 days a week08:51
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crimsunChoubaka: (suggest linux-686, that should take care of it all)08:51
geneo91crimsun:  the only thing it called for i didn't have was libusb-dev08:51
ChoubakaAh.08:51
boneeE: Couldn't find package linux-image-86808:51
ChoubakaI didn't know that :)08:51
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Choubaka686!08:51
jinx``hi08:51
goldfishlol08:51
goldfishhi jinx``08:51
ChoubakaI crrected it, too ;P08:51
boneelol08:52
drspindoes anyone know why I am getting "Couldn't initialize HAL" when I log in to X???08:52
Choubakabonee: but do as crimsun says08:52
Fazerchazwurth: Oh, where?08:52
Choubakaand install linux-68608:52
chazwurthFazer: University labs I work in08:52
boneei did the linux-image-68608:52
chazwurthFazer: And I don't know too much about how they've set up the images, so again, some of the ram issues may have to do with that08:53
Choubakado you have nvidia?08:53
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boneeati 970008:53
Choubakagah. :|08:53
chazwurthFazer: I have limited admin rights but haven't had a reason to poke around much08:53
ChoubakaI'm not going to help you with that.08:53
Somebody_How can I mount a samba share as a normal user? It seems I can only do it as root :(08:53
ChoubakaNot my expertise. :/08:53
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boneelol08:53
boneei hate it too08:53
boneebut it was free08:54
Choubakaa GF4 MX is ~free too08:54
Choubakaand about as powerful08:54
JimbobSomebody_: Add "user" to the mount options in fstab.08:54
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Choubakaactually, probably more powerful under linux .D08:54
Fazerchazwurth: OOh, I see.08:54
JimbobSomebody_: (Or just use nautilus to browse to that stuff)08:54
jinx``if you configure a user to have system administration rights, why must he use sudo and enter HIS password?08:54
boneenow what do i do after i install that08:54
propagandhihow do u play windows games under linux08:55
Choubakawith Wine or Cedega.08:55
ChoubakaCedega costs money, but plays many more games.08:55
Jimbobpropagandhi: Or "shutdown -r now" (reboot into windows) :-)08:55
ChoubakaJimbob: ...08:55
MistaEDSomebody_: it's in www.ubuntuguide.org you need umask=0222 in your fstab08:55
ChoubakaHe said "under linux"08:55
FreezerXJimbob, best answer to that question :-)08:55
geneo91crimsun:  does build essential have autoconf and automake08:55
JimbobChoubaka: Hence the ":-)"08:55
crimsungeneo91: no.08:56
ChoubakaJimbob: It didn't work :(08:56
crimsungeneo91: you'd need to install autoconf and automake1.708:56
geneo91oh ok i thought it did08:56
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crimsungeneo91: no.  apt-cache show build-essential|grep ^Depends08:56
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crimsungeneo91: that shows you what it depends on08:56
goldfishwb dazed08:56
crimsunor just apt-cache depends build-essential08:56
MistaEDactually, how do you look inside a windows shortcut under linux? half life 2 has some parameters which i forget08:57
Jimbobjinx``: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:57
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Choubakacrimsun: doesn't apt-cache depends build-essential work as well?08:57
Choubakaor rdepends08:57
crimsunChoubaka: see above.08:57
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Choubakaright.08:57
ChoubakaI missed that completely.08:57
Choubaka-_-08:57
drspinMistaED: I think if you just open it in nano as a text file...08:58
geneo91ok it has autoconf08:58
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boneeBRB08:58
ChoubakaHmm. Apparently it's possible to play Hl2 under wine :o08:58
drspinMistaED: but don't quote me08:58
drspinChoubaka: HL 2 is supported under Cedega08:58
ChoubakaI know.08:59
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boneei'm back08:59
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ChoubakaBut apparently someone has made it work under wine too.08:59
crimsun->work.08:59
drspinhmmm nice :)08:59
boneene one have a tight linux snapshot08:59
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boneedame this shit runs a lot faster08:59
goldfishhehe09:00
Choubakahttp://www.oliverthered.f2s.com/projects/wine/ :)09:00
goldfishmaybe i shud get me an optomized kernel09:00
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Choubaka:)09:00
jinx``thx Jimbob09:00
Jimbobnp09:00
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MistaEDdrspin: i can get a bit of ascii out of it, but not enough to see the parameter09:00
MistaEDalso btw, how do i escape out of nano? lol09:01
MistaEDi'm used to vi09:01
drspinbummer -- see if you can't get a windows resource editor to run iunder wine09:01
geneo91mp3.c:252: error: structure has no member named `st_mtimespec'09:01
Choubakactrl-x09:01
Choubakaor hm09:01
Choubakathat quits it ;p09:01
MistaEDthanks09:01
da_bon_bonhey, anyone in mumbai, india out here having ubuntu cds ? i would like to buy them...09:01
MistaEDcan't you order a cd free from the main site?09:02
da_bon_bonMistaED: i dont want to wait till june to get the cs09:02
da_bon_bons/cs/cds09:02
dazedy009:02
MistaEDfair enough09:02
da_bon_bonMistaED: :)09:03
da_bon_bonso, no one ? :(09:03
MistaEDi didn't know they're going to take that long09:03
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topylida_bon_bon: buy a cd online and make copies for the whole town?09:03
da_bon_bonMistaED: i recd the warty cds on ~29december09:03
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da_bon_bontopyli: why not do the opposite ? buy it from someone who has made the cd for the whole town ? ;)09:04
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da_bon_bontopyli: well, my parents wont allow me to buy it. even tho its damn cheap09:04
topylida_bon_bon: brilliant :)09:04
da_bon_bonfrom www.linuxbazar.com09:04
da_bon_bontopyli: :)09:04
Choubakada_bon_bon: if you have warty cds, what for do you need hoary cds?09:04
topylida_bon_bon: but if you can't find anyone, you'll have to be the One09:04
da_bon_bonChoubaka: i can upgrade, but my "cable" net connection gives me dnld speeds like 2kbps so...09:05
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da_bon_bonChoubaka: i am not on ubuntu ATM09:05
Choubaka2kbps :|09:05
da_bon_bontopyli: right09:05
da_bon_bonChoubaka: yes09:05
Choubakada_bon_bon: is that what you normally get elsewhere too?09:06
Choubakaor is it just the ubuntu mirror?09:06
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da_bon_bonChoubaka: elsewhere too. if i want more speed, i need to pay more09:06
Xgatesok here I am again with the QUESTION of the day, who's compiled a successful working kernel in this thing, and I mean stripped down to just your hardware only?09:06
topylida_bon_bon: man, i must now be commenting to something you wrote yesterday :)09:06
Choubakada_bon_bon: ouch :(09:07
da_bon_bonsee, once i get the hoary cds, i can keep on upgrading ...09:07
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revelaterhow do i play an asf?09:07
da_bon_bontopyli: not that bad, but i lag a lot on irc09:07
ChoubakaXgates: I haven't on Ubuntu, since I'm happy with the prepackaged one. But I have compiled lots on Debian09:07
da_bon_bonrevelater: apt-get install xine09:07
ChoubakaXgates: It's very easy :)09:07
Xgatesbloody thing I have my keyboard support compiled into it, I mean how hard is it to compile keyboard support, LOL, and at bootup at the login prompt the keyboard wont work SO Ubuntu has something funky going on here towards it I still cant figure after 3 days with it09:08
revelaterok then, maybe i got a corrupt file then09:08
ChoubakaXgates: I bet it's a user error :p09:08
XgatesChoubaka: it's easy, LOL ok you strip it all down to just the hardware requirements that ONLY your box needs, and tell me how long it took to get a working kernel09:08
Choubaka15 minutes.09:08
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Choubakaexcluding compilation09:09
XgatesChoubaka: I have been running Slackware 5 years and after 3 days I still cant get a 100% working kernel09:09
XgatesLOL09:09
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dukenhow to confiure 2 NIC ??09:09
ChoubakaXgates: Are you sure you know how to configure your kernel? :p09:09
dukenhow to configure 2 NIC ??09:09
XgatesChoubaka: I dont make errors in building kernels, I compiled for 2 years as a living09:09
Choubaka:P09:10
XgatesI made a living running a Slackware support site09:10
behduken ifconfig in terminal might help09:10
ChoubakaHow did you build the  kernel?09:10
XgatesI didnt make any errors Ubuntu has something funky built into about this09:10
behduken: man ifconfig09:10
ChoubakaXgates: What sources did you use?09:10
Choubakaubuntu's?09:10
XgatesI grabed the 2.6.10 patched source through apt-get09:10
Xgatesthen09:10
Xgatesafter making the kernel options in --> make menuconfig09:11
ChoubakaI'm sure Ubuntu has nothing to do with this.09:11
XgatesI ran  --->  make-kpkg clean &&  make-kpkg --initrd --revision 1 kernel_image09:11
ChoubakaYou're just ovelooking some small mistake. :p09:11
Xgatesthen installed the kernel --> dpkg -i kernel-name.deb09:11
XgatesChoubaka:  DUDE hehe there is no small mistake to compiling support for JUST the keyboard09:12
XgatesLOL09:12
Choubakawhy did you run make-kpkg clean? why did you want initrd? do you have initrd support in the kernel? :p09:12
da_bon_bonok, no one i assume. then i think i will need to buy one :(09:12
Xgatesyes of course there is ram disk support in the kernel with also 'cramfs' compiled in09:12
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goldfishgah09:12
ChoubakaXgates: yes there can be.09:13
Choubakaalso, hmm...09:13
Choubakayou just compiled one module?09:13
Xgatesone module?09:13
Choubakanever mind.09:13
topylida_bon_bon: any more local channels/forums/mailing lists you could try? you can't be the only one from around there09:13
ChoubakaI thought you said "JUST for the keyboard"09:13
Choubaka:p09:13
da_bon_bontopyli: i am assuming i am...09:14
XgatesChoubaka: Input device support  is the ONLY section needed to get keyboard support in Linux09:14
ChoubakaWhat kind of a keyboard is it?09:14
topylida_bon_bon: being a pioneer doesn't pay :(09:14
XgatesThese 2 are all that are needed for someone that uses a PS/2 Keyboard09:14
Xgates[*]  Keyboards09:14
ChoubakaXgates: I know.09:14
Xgates<M>   AT keyboard support09:14
Xgatesthats it09:14
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Xgatessimple as that09:14
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Choubaka...09:15
ChoubakaYou're assuming I don't know all this09:15
Xgatesnow Im showing you that I know all this09:15
Xgateshehe09:15
Xgates:-)09:15
Choubaka... :P09:15
ac-idefnet server anyone?09:15
XgatesNOW if the distro will not work with the normal kernel support in it09:15
Xgatesthen something like some funky FS support, or service support, etc... is built into the system the way it runs09:16
ChoubakaI am still sure you're making a mistake...09:16
ChoubakaHmm09:16
MistaEDi had a generic ps2 keyboard which worked perfect under 2.4.x, and did not work what so ever under 2.6.x09:16
Xgateshotplug, crap, and friggin udev sucks too09:16
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Choubakaiirc ubuntu requires inotify.09:16
boneewhat is that menu on the top left side09:16
XgatesIused inotify too09:16
boneehttp://de.lunar-linux.org/xfce4/screenshots/2005-01-09-223724_1600x1200_scrot.jpg09:16
MistaEDthat keyboard is now dead and forgotten :)09:16
Xgatesbut let me look to see if I stil have it inthere09:16
ChoubakaXgates: did you manage to solve that no-root account prob, btw?09:17
ChoubakaOr rather09:17
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Xgates [*]  Inotify file change notification support09:17
XgatesOh yea got it working09:17
XgatesI forgot hehe you too?09:17
Burgundaviabonee, where did you get the background?09:17
Choubakahow did you solve it? I booted to single user and toyed with /etc/user, group and shadow09:17
Xgatesok09:17
Xgatesone sec09:17
boneei son't have the backgroud09:18
da_bon_bontopyli: right09:18
da_bon_bonhey, i ask again, and for last time :( -- anyone from india here having the ubunt ucds ?09:18
XgatesChoubaka: could you get to init1 running ?09:18
XgatesChoubaka: if so then you add into --> /etc/passwd09:19
Xgatesroot:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash09:19
ChoubakaI had to reboot.09:19
XgatesTHEN09:19
ChoubakaI know09:19
ChoubakaThat's what I did.09:19
Choubakaand made the appropriate shadow entries too :)09:19
Xgatesyou need to add a root group in /etc/group --> root:x:0:09:19
Xgateswhat did you do in /etc/shadow?09:19
ChoubakaOk. so you did it the exact same way as I.09:19
ChoubakaXgates: I just copied the root entry over from /etc/shadow- to /etc/shadow09:20
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da_bon_bontopyli: from where ? ;)09:21
XgatesChoubaka: hmm I dont have any root entry in shadow-09:21
Xgateshm09:21
ChoubakaI did.09:21
topylida_bon_bon: europe. finland09:21
XgatesI didnt put anything in shadow09:21
da_bon_bontopyli: ha, maybe 5 to 7 dollars ?09:21
Choubakatopyli: Oho. Terve. :D09:21
topyliChoubaka: moro :)09:22
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ChoubakaI once mailed a postcard to germany for 1.5 euros.09:22
Choubakaor something09:22
Choubakaa cd may cost a bit more :p09:22
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MistaEDwould anyone happen to know how to make gaim flash when a new message comes?09:22
Xgatesman I just cant figure what the heck is up with why the keyboard wont work on the reboot of that new kernel09:22
da_bon_bontopyli: thanks for the thought dude, but imo its damn costly, so i will wait for shipit then :)09:23
topylida_bon_bon: they're closer to you but they're also busier :\09:24
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da_bon_bontopyli: why ? where are shipit ?09:24
goldfishHey, I saw that conversation about optomized kernels earlier, just wondering if anyone knows if there any for pentium M processors?09:24
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topylida_bon_bon: actually i don't know. they might as well be in europe too09:25
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ChoubakaI guess they have many branch offices or something09:25
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revelaterxmule quits on me for no apperant reason...09:26
Choubakahmm09:26
revelatercouldn't be all the pron i am downloading could it? ;)09:26
revelaterj/k09:26
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revelateri start it up, and a litle while later it just disapears09:27
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cowbudrevelater: did you try starting it through a terminal to see if it spits out a error?09:28
topylida_bon_bon: letter, max 50 grams, non-european countries: 1.20 EUR. takes more than a week09:29
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da_bon_bontopyli: :) ur postal servie has a website ?09:30
yinyina09:30
topylida_bon_bon: sure. letter, max 100g, 2.90 EUR. that's not too bad09:30
da_bon_bontopyli: well, mostly indian post dont have a website :)09:32
topylida_bon_bon: they're fighting the web i guess. they want everybody to write real letters :)09:32
da_bon_bonright09:33
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topylieuropean post has given in by now09:33
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da_bon_bon:D09:33
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int0xHi! just wondering if I can get help here09:34
da_bon_bonint0x: ask dont ask to ask09:34
int0xgreat thanks09:34
da_bon_bon:)09:35
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da_bon_bonbye guys, cya all later :)09:35
int0xi got an ntfs partitions/drive is it possible to mount/read those files?09:35
int0xbah, the only the that knew probably left!09:36
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FreezerXint0x, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions09:37
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revelatercowbud, doing it right now, waiting for crash09:38
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punkasshello all09:39
revelaterCRASH!!!!09:39
int0xdo you have to login as root to run the root ummm console? i tried from regular user account the 'root terminal' but either i forgot my password or you need to login as the root user09:39
punkassi am running on a amd64 with a nivida 5900xt and trying to run glxinfo and i get these erors09:39
punkassXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:39
punkassError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual09:39
desrt2212swws09:39
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punkassand then a whole bunch of Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:39
punkass0x21 24 tc  1  0  0 c  .  .  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0 0 None09:39
punkassafter it09:40
punkassany thoughts?09:40
jinx``int0x http://www.ubuntuguide.org09:40
punkassi have the nvidia driver loaded, i even see the white nvidia screen on  boot up09:40
jinx``very nice website09:40
int0xi've used debian and su before09:40
punkassglxgears gives me this: glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.09:41
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revelaterhey, is amule a good program?09:41
revelatercompared to xmule?09:41
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topyliint0x: use sudo and your own password. to get a real root shel, use 'sudo sh' or something09:42
int0xtopyli: so from running the 'root terminal' program or link or whatever should i type my password or the 'root' password09:43
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topyliint0x: if you run the root teminal from the menu, you give your own password in the dialog09:44
topyliint0x: there's no root password unless you've enabled root yourself09:44
int0xi didnt enable root but thats what i called the 'privlaged user' i guess09:44
thenukeumm, what textmode-browser supports IPV6?09:44
int0xs/i/you,me09:44
int0xim not logged in as that account though, im logged in as a normal account. and the password for normal account and the privlaged one both dont work on the root terminal09:45
topyliint0x: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:46
topyliint0x: the "priviledged" one is the first user you made. you can add others to the 'admin' group if you wish09:46
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RatManhi ppl09:47
goldfishhi09:47
RatManim trying to install ubuntu 4.10 and i dont hav a mouse09:48
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goldfishhrmm...09:48
RatManand ive tryed mdk and fedors core 3 on the same pc woth the same gear and they work09:48
int0xso i tried to run sudo -s and it said dave is not in the sudoers file.. does that mean I have to LOGIN as the privlaged user and then run the 'root terminal' or whatever?09:48
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RatManwould it have more mouse drivers in the lastest version of ubuntu?09:49
RatManive got 1 comming09:49
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RatManany ideas?09:50
BazziRatMan you have no mouse support _at_all_?09:50
RatManwhen i install ubuntu when it come to the x window theres no mouse and thew keyboard is working09:51
RatManand mdk and fedora core 3 works witha  mouse09:51
RatManand kubuntu works09:52
RatManbut i have the latest version of it09:52
topylisounds buggy09:52
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Bazziwell then regular ubuntu latest version will work as well09:53
Bazzikubuntu just has another desktop09:53
lizdeikahey, what about gimpshop(http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/) in universe ?09:53
RatManvery weird09:53
Bazzilizdeika maybe in multiverse rather ;)09:54
lizdeikawhatever :) if only available09:54
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RatManok cool ty ive orded the latest cd09:55
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Sp4rKyhi09:56
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BlackLabelhas anyone had errors installing splashy?09:57
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Sp4rKywhat's splashy ?09:58
rundyHi, I'd like to know if anyone can tell me the rough size MB/GB of the ubuntu universe and multiverse09:58
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Ninohello, is it possible to install ubuntu directly over network (like with the debian network install without copying data from the cd) with a normal ubuntu install CD?09:59
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crimsunrundy: universe is in the tens of GB.09:59
goldfishhttp://www.theinquirer.net/?article=2252310:00
goldfish^^ brainwave reading alarmclock lol10:00
rundycrimsun, thanks (my isp has an unmetered(free) mirror)10:00
djphi all. sorry, asked this question last night but fell asleep and forgot the answer (duh!). How do i add a command to crontab so that a script runs once a day?10:00
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crimsundjp: crontab -e10:01
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djpcrimsun: thanks. does that open crontab in an editor?10:02
crimsundjp: yes10:02
djpcrimsun: gedit or vim?10:02
crimsundjp: whichever $EDITOR is set to10:02
djpcrimsun: ok, thnaks10:03
djpthanks even!10:03
Sp4rKyanyone could explain to me how use gdesklets ?10:03
Sp4rKyis only a deamon ?10:03
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AndyRmourning ppl10:09
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dbrouwerhi all10:10
dbrouwerjust installed ubuntu, nice10:10
dbrouwerhow can i change the screen resolution? Preferences > Screen resolution does only go to 1024x786, i want (and i can) go higher10:10
Sp4rKydbrouwer10:11
Sp4rKyin the /etc/X11/xorg.conf i u use xorg10:11
dbrouwerokay, so no graphical front end to do that?10:11
goldfishyou could to a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:12
Sp4rKyi don't think, maybe the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or xserver-xfree86 can do that10:12
cens0redI need to install gcc so I can compile my own software. Which version should I install?10:13
thenukewoot, phpsysinfo install apache too :) ?10:13
Bazzicens0red install the build-essential packages10:13
goldfishcens0red: apt-get install build-essential10:13
Bazzi-s10:13
cens0redgoldfish Bazzi ta.10:13
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dbrouwerupon saving /xorg.conf, i get permission denied, how do i go to root user, i never had to input a root user and root pwd10:14
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Bazzisudo10:14
Bazzisudo vim /foo/xorg.conf10:15
dukendmesg10:15
dukenACPI-1138: *** Error: Method execution failed10:15
dukenhow to fix it ?10:15
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jinx``anyone some experience with q3 under ubuntu?10:17
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Burgundaviajinx``, yes, why?10:21
Burgundaviajinx``, you need to kill esd to get it to work10:21
topylifragall esd10:21
jinx``i know10:21
jinx``i just turned off system audio10:21
jinx``i mean the gnome sounds10:21
topyliby unchecking the tickbox? that doesn't kill esd if it's already running10:22
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dukenpnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME__CRS failure for PNP0c01 <-- what mean its ?10:23
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dukenand how to fix it10:23
Sp4rKyplease anybody could help me about gdesklets install ? how install them ?10:23
jinx``but it runs after a reboot10:23
Quinn_Stormhey, anyone else trying to use / using breezy know what can be done about the conflict between python2.4-minimal and python2.4 ?10:23
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crimsunQuinn_Storm: there is no conflict.10:23
crimsunQuinn_Storm: are you mixing sources?10:24
Quinn_Stormcrimsun: nope10:24
Quinn_Stormcrimsun: both packages comef rom breezy10:24
Quinn_Stormcrimsun: python2.4 and python2.4-minimal both complain about overwriting each other's files10:24
Xgatesanyone used nividia-source and  module assistant?10:24
jinx``but how many frames do you get with a 472MHz, 192mb ram, gf2mx rig?10:24
AmaranthQuinn_Storm: It's a known issue.10:24
Quinn_StormAmaranth: ok, is there a workaround right now?10:24
AmaranthQuinn_Storm: Debian's python2.4 and Ubuntu's python2.4 do different things.10:24
Burgundaviajinx``, you want to run q3 on a 472mhz?10:24
AmaranthQuinn_Storm: Force python2.4 to install.10:25
jinx``sure ;)10:25
Quinn_StormAmaranth: I see, well both are from breezy, nothing is from debian sources, and ok10:25
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AmaranthQuinn_Storm: breezy is from debian sources....10:25
jinx``for testing purposes10:25
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Quinn_StormAmaranth: ah10:25
Burgundaviajinx``, I get around 90 on a amd mobile 2500+10:25
AmaranthQuinn_Storm: They just did a huge import from sid10:25
topylijinx``: you'll get fragged online :)10:25
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crimsunQuinn_Storm: when python2.4 is properly merged, it will be fixed.10:25
jinx``perhaps i will have a look on performance under windows with this machine10:25
Burgundaviajinx``, and a radeon 9600 xt10:25
jinx``and compare10:25
Quinn_Stormcrimsun: I see10:25
birgershould I wait with installing openoffice2 in hoary?10:26
jinx``but it should be equal, right?10:26
crimsunbirger: Hoary is released.10:26
topylijinx``: it won't be very good on either :(10:26
birgercrimsun: yes I know, but with Oopenoffice 1.110:26
topylibirger: ooo2 is a bit dangerous still10:27
jinx``i know, for online gaming there is my 2400MHz athlon xp10:27
crimsunbirger: install openoffice.org2 then10:27
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birgerall I need from OO2 is the new OpenDocument format10:27
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crimsunyou can't cherry-pick that10:28
crimsunif you want it, you have to grab openoffice.org210:28
topylibirger: you'll want a working ooo2 if you convert your documents ;)10:28
topylibirger: and it doesn't really exist yet10:28
birgertopyli: I know, can't wait till it takes over word .doc though10:29
Quinn_Stormhmm, that was far less painful than I thought it was gonna be (going hoary -> breezy)10:30
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NinoIs there an official internet mirror with the ubuntu archiv (for install from) ???10:31
lesshastedoes this line mean bayes classifying is not working on my system "debug: bayes: Not available for scanning, only 1 spam(s) in Bayes DB < 200"?10:31
lesshaste I don't understand .. I ran sa-learn just before... it said "Learned from 870 message(s) (1025 message(s) examined)" for the spam and "Learned from 2390 message(s) (2578 message(s) examined)." for ham10:31
topyliNino: there's no network install if that's what you mean. you need the install cd10:31
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Quinn_Stormbleh, in breezy, I get configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check10:33
Ninotopyli: but i want to do a network install? isn't this sarge? debian IS able to do a network install10:33
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Ninohey?10:35
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Ninobut i want to do a network install? isn't this sarge? debian IS able to do a network install10:35
seliniumhi all, can anyone recommend a decent ftp server?10:35
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Shuflahello :)10:35
seliniumhello :D10:36
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cionuserHELLO EVERYONE NEED HELP WITH WIRELESS USB ADAPTER INSTALLATION10:39
cionuserCAN SOMEBODY HELP ME?10:39
goldfishhrmm..10:39
Bazzistop the shouting10:39
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goldfish:)10:39
cionusersorry :)10:39
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cionuseranyone has some experience with wireless usb adapters installation?10:40
Bazziwhats wrong?10:41
Bazzinot detected? hardware not loaded? connection failed?10:41
cionuseri letterally have no idea where to start to install my usb adapter10:41
cionuserit's plugged10:41
Bazzioh :)10:41
webtoewhat sort of adapter is it?10:41
Bazzidoes it ship with some sort of linux drivers?10:41
cionusersorry kinda noob here with ubuntu i love this so10:42
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webtoewhat brand and model number10:42
cionuser802.11b 11mbps10:42
cionusersiemens usb adapter10:42
Bazzimodel#?10:42
cionuserwll01310:42
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cionuseru there Bazzi?10:44
nachtwindhi10:44
Bazzicionuser http://atmelwlandriver.sourceforge.net/news.html10:45
nachtwindis there someone here wo knows how to apply policy files on Win2k systems while using a SAMBA PDC?10:45
Bazzithats the driver you need10:45
cionuserGREAT BAZZI ROOOOCCKKSSSSSSSSSSS10:45
cionuserthks dude10:45
Bazzicionuser should be in apt. try apt-cache search atmel10:46
Quinn_Stormagh, I figured it out, breezy installed x86_64 arch files rather than i386 arch files!10:46
Quinn_Stormis there a way to fix that?10:46
Bazziwhats the point in installing breezy now?10:46
Bazziother than being nuts? ;)10:46
Quinn_StormBazzi: to track the newest updates, and help fix problems10:46
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BazziI'd still wait a few days tho :/10:47
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Bazzitill its fully merged10:47
Quinn_StormBazzi: I thought I had, I didn't realize it wasn't10:47
Quinn_StormBazzi: I'll see about downgrading back to hoary10:47
Bazziyeah10:47
deFryskBazzi, That makes me "nuts"10:47
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Quinn_StormBazzi: once I switch the sources.list back, is there an automated way? or do I just have to go through the packages one by one?10:47
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BazziQuinn_Storm I think apt-get dist-upgrade should do it10:48
=== deFrysk stick to breezy from now on ;p
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Quinn_StormBazzi: ok10:48
Bazzibbl10:48
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nikolahi, i look 4 something as rainmeter and rainlendarr ... http://www.ipi.fi/~rainy/index.php?pn=projects&project=rainlendar under gnome .. tHX much 4 idea ;)10:49
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Quinn_Stormhmm, dist-upgrade won't allow downgrades...10:50
Amaranthum, that's why it says upgrade :)10:50
Amaranthif you want to keep an older version you need to pin it10:50
john__to pin?10:50
Quinn_StormAmaranth: yeah, just trying to find an easy way to go back from breezy to hoary b/c breezy is broken right now10:50
Amaranthof course it is, all the stuff isn't even _built_ yet10:50
john__What is to pin?10:51
Quinn_StormAmaranth: well I didn't know that :-P10:51
Amaranthjohn__: You'll never need to use it. :)10:51
zerokarmaleftlol10:51
john__Amaranth: Okay?10:51
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nikolahi, i look 4 something as rainmeter and rainlendarr ... http://www.ipi.fi/~rainy/index.php?pn=projects&project=rainlendar under gnome .. tHX much 4 idea ;) ....10:52
dukenhi i have problem on the boot10:52
john__What is the problem, duken?10:52
dukenmy i'm paste here my log dmesg ?10:52
dukendmesg |grep pnp10:53
dukenpnp: PnP ACPI init10:53
dukenpnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME__CRS failure for PNP0c0110:53
dukenpnp: PnP ACPI: found 12 devices10:53
dukenpnp: 00:0b: ioport range 0x400-0x47f could not be reserved10:53
duken10:53
dukenACPI: Subsystem revision 2005021110:53
duken    ACPI-1138: *** Error: Method execution failed [\MCTH]  (Node cff2eca0), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT10:53
duken    ACPI-1138: *** Error: Method execution failed [\OSFL]  (Node cff2e4a0), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT10:53
duken    ACPI-1138: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.PS2M._STA]  (Node cfaf2e80), A10:53
dukenE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT10:53
duken    ACPI-0158: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.SBRG.PS2M._STA]  (Node cfaf2e80), A10:53
dukenE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT10:53
duken10:53
Quinn_StormAGH, there doesn't seem to be any automated way to fix this!10:54
john__What is all these numbers? I cannot help. Ask someone else.10:54
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julohi10:56
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juloI'm trying to upgrade to breezy but get an error when upgrading python:10:57
juloCompiling python modules in /usr/lib/python2.4 ...10:57
juloCompiling optimized python modules in /usr/lib/python2.4 ...10:57
juloErrors were encountered while processing:10:57
julo /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4_2.4.1-1_i386.deb10:57
juloE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)10:57
juloAny idea ?10:57
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seb128julo: don't upgrade to breezy ? :)10:58
mutekwow hello10:58
Amaranthhehe10:58
Amaranthbreezy packages haven't even finished building yet, jeez10:59
Quinn_Stormyeah but what for those of us who screwed up and did it?10:59
juloseb128: too late, now I'm stuck with broken packages...10:59
zerokarmaleftlesson learned the hard way i guess10:59
Amaranthforce it to install10:59
Amaranthif you don't know how to do that you shouldn't have starting using breezy10:59
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seb128right, breezy just opens, there is a lot of changes, don't use that if you don't know what you are doing11:00
seb128you'll have issues to face for no win11:00
juloseb128: I know what I'm doing: I'm upgrading to the latest version of Ubuntu :)11:00
seb128ah ah11:01
seb128for the upgrade issue I don't know11:01
seb128I've not upgraded to breezy yet11:01
juloI've never had any problems with hoary when it was the development branch. That's why I thought it would be OK with breezy.11:01
Amaranthjulo: You're upgrading to a half built heavily broken _development_ version of Ubuntu that just opened two days ago and just started building yesterday11:01
seb128have a look on bugzilla perhaps ?11:01
jinx``is breezy the next ubuntu version?11:01
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seb128julo: there was no big changes for hoary11:02
Amaranthseb128: python2.4-minimal replaces an older version of python11:02
Amaranthseb128: so the two conflict11:02
juloAmaranth: maybe the developers should have uploaded the packages only when it was possible for users to upgrade.11:02
seb128k, he didn't copy this part of the error here11:02
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jinx``btw, Amaranth, are you the one with the menu-editor?11:02
seb128julo: ??11:02
jinx``great work!11:02
seb128julo: how are the developers supposed to work ?11:02
Amaranthjulo: Totally non-supported and they upload as they build, automatically.11:02
Amaranthjinx``: Yeah, thanks. :)11:02
jinx``but i hope it's not finished yet!?11:03
seb128julo: the breakages are not made on purpose ...11:03
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Amaranthjinx``: Not even close. Once I get a package of PyXDG from CVS for you guys to use and figure out a workaround for a gnome-menus bug I'll have 0.5 out.11:03
seb128julo: but breezy is a new branch with a lot of changes, that's a working place, no way to complain about such issues11:03
jinx``nice ;)11:04
seb128what gnome-menus bug ?11:04
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jinx``keep on working!11:04
juloseb128: I'm not complaining, it's just my test machine. I don't have any problem with it to be broken for a few days.11:04
Amaranthseb128: Let me find the email on the xdg ml.11:04
seb128julo: <julo> Amaranth: maybe the developers should have uploaded the packages only when it was possible for users to upgrade.11:04
seb128julo: you are suggesting than they have breaking it on purpose, that's not fair11:04
Amaranthseb128: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2005-April/006728.html11:05
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Xgatesanyone know how you work --> module-assitant?11:05
seb128Amaranth: I would rather the bugzilla bug for it :)11:05
juloseb128: no, I'm just saying that they haven't tried not to break it, by uploading all the new packages one after the other.11:05
XgatesI compiled a kernel now I want to compile the nvidia-kernel-source with this11:05
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Amaranthseb128: hehe, filing now11:05
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seb128julo: your way would takes months, you can't do that11:06
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ArniaGot to find out what file formats they'll be using.11:06
juloseb128: OK, then I'm sorry :) I shouldn't talk when I don't know what I'm taking about...11:06
seb128Amaranth: hum, according to the thread that's fixed with the CVS11:07
Amaranthseb128: Should I file it in ubuntu's bugzilla and let one of you move it upstream?11:07
ChoubakaHmm.11:07
ChoubakaTrouble.11:07
Amaranthseb128: For the PyXDG bug.11:07
Amaranthseb128: the gnome-menus one isn't11:07
seb128julo: np, but the sooner you made changes the better11:07
Choubakabeep-media-player and xmms refuse to start.11:07
seb128Amaranth: k11:07
seb128Amaranth: fill it upstream rather if you can11:07
ChoubakaThey give no error message whatsoever.11:07
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ChoubakaI tried stracing them and it seems they can't find a locale.11:08
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cens0redwhoah11:08
Choubakahowever, using C or POSIX has no effect.11:08
cens0redjust had a naaazty system freeze.11:08
CloneyAny good howtos on setting up Ubuntu to use Fluxbox instead of Gnome?11:08
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cens0redi was compiling wine, and everything just froze for ages.11:09
cens0redI'm still compiling wine.11:09
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arkaishello11:11
cens0redarkais11:11
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goldfishhey guys, just wondering, I am trying to get xcompmgr working, and i am using xfce, how do i get it to run at startup like you can in gnome?11:11
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Choubakaargh. :(11:12
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ChoubakaI feel sad without music.11:13
ChoubakaI guess I'll have to use xfmedia or something. :|11:13
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=== arkais is sad because he has to reinstall hoary
cens0redarkais really?11:15
cens0redy?11:15
arkaisyes ;(11:16
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Xgatesanyone know how you work --> module-assitant?11:16
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arkaisa error , fatal error when i was editing the grub, and when i was rebooting the hoary just down11:19
zerokarmaleftXgates, why don't you use kernel-package?11:19
seliniumAnyone here use webmin>11:19
selinium?11:19
cens0redarkais surely there's a way to rescue that.11:19
cens0redno?11:19
arkaisi dont know11:20
cens0redI'm no linux expert. But all these people who, say that reinstalling is a wuss's way out11:20
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Xgateszerokarmaleft: no this was to compile the nvidia source I needed is all11:20
XgatesI got it11:20
cens0red*all these people who are11:20
Xgates:-)11:21
Xgates--> nvidia-kernel-2.6.10-5-k7_1.0.7174-0ubuntu2+2.6.10-34_i386.deb11:21
Xgates:-)11:21
simonfarkais: can you get a grub prompt?11:21
arkaisi dont know11:21
arkaisim newbie11:21
Amaranthwhen you boot can you hit esc and get a menu?11:21
Amaranthit'll have when to hit esc, you only have a couple seconds11:22
arkaisi can try11:22
Quinn_Stormagh, ok, I think I got all the packages, waiting to see if its enough...unfortunately you can't get the "compressed size" info from dpkg-query otherwise I'd use that b/c the breezy packages report 0 for it11:22
arkaiswell i have to go11:22
cens0redarkais go to ubuntuforums.org11:22
cens0redand ask abouit it there.11:22
Choubakahm :(11:23
ChoubakaI am clueless.11:23
ChoubakaWhy is localegen not generatign a proper en_GB.UTF-8 locale.11:23
mutekselinium: I;ve installed the tar.gz in a custom dir, now rock!11:23
seliniummutek: I have just installed from synaptic. I need to set it up, any pointers?11:24
seliniummutek: never used it before!11:25
juloseb128: I fixed my problem with python by using dpkg -i --force-overwrite. But now I guess python2.4 and python-minimal are conflicting, aren't they ?11:25
Quinn_Stormjulo: its b/c breezy isn't ready yet...I'm manually downgrading back to hoary myself11:26
seb128julo: that's what Amaranth said to you before11:26
mutekselinium: it's very simple, just untar it, then sudo setup.sh it enter until you reach the password field then login into https://localhost:10000 with admin as username11:26
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juloseb128: I know, I know. My question is simply: should i remove any of those 2 packages now ?11:26
mutekselinium: sorry...hit enter I mean11:26
seb128julo: no, just let that this way11:26
seliniummutek: where do I need to run  sudo setup.sh ?11:27
mutekselinium: into the untarred dir, before move the dir into a locationat your discrection (rename it if you need) the open a terminal ad go11:28
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mutekselinium: the untarred dir is the installed dir (ala Bundles)11:28
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juloThanks seb128 and Amaranth. Have a nice day !11:29
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seliniummutek: I am new to linux! Ambitious aren't I! So I don't know where synaptic put it all!11:31
zerokarmaleftanybody else here tried meebey's experimental 1.1.6 mono .debs?11:32
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mutekselinium: you're welcome. ok now download this webmin from sourceforge:11:34
mutekselinium: http://kent.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/webadmin/webmin-1.200.tar.gz11:34
mutekselinium: here you start11:34
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epicenterI am trying to use AMD64 Hoary and i386 Hoary to run my 32-bit apps.11:35
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epicenterI have the 2 on separte partitions11:35
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snowblinksamba question: Do I need to create accounts on the samba server, or can people just use their NT logons?11:36
epicenterWhen I do linux32 chroot /mnt with the 32-bit partition mounted on /mnt ..11:36
epicenterthen tyr to run an app .. I get weird effects or crashes11:36
epicentere.g. a GLX or SDL app makes the screen black yet doesn't crash it11:36
epicenterand I can't tell what the hell is happening11:36
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dbrouweri changed xorg.conf to set my resolution to 1280x1024, but upon restarting xserver i still only get 1024x768 how do i get my resolution to be 1280x1024?!!!?11:36
epicenterrunning Cedega chrooted to 32-bit gives me 'invalid path . given for "-- use-dos-cwd".  What the hell did I do wrong?11:37
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goldfishdbrouwer: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?11:37
dbrouwerno, let me do that11:37
goldfishhrmm.... has anyone played with hdparm ?11:37
Xgateshow come when I install linux-image-2.6.10-5-k7 it doesnt make a symlink for initrd.img and vmlinuz in / ?11:37
goldfishjust reading about it on the forums here11:37
Sauron21could any one tell e of a good program to burn   .img   files in?11:37
goldfishk3b ?11:38
Sauron21cant...11:38
Sauron21k3d burns only .iso files....11:38
seliniummutek: the install in synaptic is webmin-1.180-2. If i need to run  'sudo setup.sh' or do I just uninstall everything and start again?11:38
mutekselinium: first download the tar.gz, the uninstall from synaptic the webmin you mean, then extract the new webmin from the tar.gz, open a shell, go into the new webmin and tipe sudo setup.sh11:40
seliniummutek: ok11:40
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epicenterCould someone please help me out with chroot?11:47
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PModeI'm running hoary (after dist-upgrade) and it seems that nautilus doesn't work due to a misconfiguration (Can't get a context menu on the desktop, nautilus in a terminal doesn't work).11:48
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mutekPMode: try before to add a new user and check it's nautilus11:50
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mutekepicenter: k11:51
epicenterI have an AMD64 install on /dev/hda7 and an i386 one on /dev/hda611:51
epicenterI need to run some 32-bit programs in /dev/hda611:51
epicenterwhen I try to chroot to it with linux32 chroot /mountpoint I get weird errors and crashes11:52
epicenternever actual programs .. running. :P11:52
epicenterSDL or GLX programs give a black screen and freak out, cedega crashes with weird errors, etc.11:52
Quinn_Stormbleh I have to rebuild my entire build system -.-11:53
Quinn_Stormnevermind11:54
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mutekepicenter: sorry I've a i386 only11:54
epicenter:P11:54
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bassMonkeyI would like to switch to the k7 kernel from the 386 becouse I can't get all my ram to work, will the nvidia driver work after this and if not what do I need to do?11:55
mutekepicenter: but an iBook 12'' too but it's not the 64bit you mean11:55
epicenteryeah11:55
PModemutek: the newly created user has a working nautilus. I can't logout on the old user as well.11:56
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Bug-Ethat's why you use the binaries11:57
mutekPMode: to not waste your time, just save your data, destroy your user and add a new one reimporting your sensible data, it's a problem closed to gconf and gnome settings11:57
=== bassMonkey is kindly asking for advise...
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Bug-Ecompiling from source is for people who have too much cpu cycles and too much time on their hands...11:57
Bug-E:-)11:57
cens0redBug-E suppose you want the bleeding edge?11:57
Bug-Eheh11:58
Bug-Ei prefer stability over functionality, personally...11:58
Bug-Ei hate having to troubleshoot broken apps/libraries11:58
mutekBug-E: and too much needs to use old hardware11:58
Bug-Ethat's why i love ubuntu  :)11:58
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PModemutek: this user is the primary user. do I get root access via sudo afterwards?11:59
seliniummutek: When it insalled it grabbed the original setup, so I am back where I started. How do I uninstall the package? then I will wipe all references and strat again!12:00
cens0redbassMonkey I can only advise you to seek solace in the Lord.12:00
seliniumstmutek: start even!12:00
mutekselinium: not at all12:00
cens0redor go to ubuntuforum.org and ask your question there. That's another option.12:00
ChoubakaHm.12:00
mutekPMode: add a new user, the go into /etc/sudoers and add it into the list as root is12:01
oxygene_I have strange problem with apache. Instead of show me index.html show me some randomname.phtml and browser wants to download it. Any ideas?12:01
seliniummutek: how do i un-install webmin?12:01
cens0redpermissions?12:02
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cens0redthe dir should chmod 75512:02
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sylttyDoes the default hoary install include libgtk1.2 ?12:04
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Burgundaviasyltty, no idea, what do you need it for?12:08
PModemutek: sorry for bothering you. a reboot solved the problem. maybe and old nautilus process was the problem.12:09
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cens0reddoes dpkg -S only search for files in packages that are installed locally? Or does it search all repositories as well?12:13
tim_Hi all! How I can get russian  in XMMS?12:13
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Ninohi, in the file sources.list what is the hoary-security thing ??? # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe12:14
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sylttyBurgundavia: I'm making install instructions for my program and I'need to know if libgtk1.2 is installed in default hoary install12:15
corpwhat's test best way to setup ubuntu/windows dual boot?12:15
petemcinstall ubuntu after windows12:15
Ninocorp: this is done by the installer (GRUB boot loader)12:15
tim_2cens0red: it search in installed packages12:15
Ninohi, in the file sources.list what is the hoary-security thing ??? # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe12:15
corpnino: so i should install hoary first?12:16
corpwith a partition set for windows12:16
corpthen install windows?12:16
Choubakacorp: no.12:16
AmaranthNino: hoary is stable, it'll only get security updates12:16
cens0redsyltty dpkg -l |grep -i libgtk12:16
AmaranthNino: They come from there.12:16
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CloneyAlternatively, you can add Ubuntu to the Windows boot menu, but that involves a reasonable amount of jiggery pokery each time you rebuild your kernel.12:16
cens0redsyltty $dpkg -l |grep -i libgtk12:16
ChoubakaYou should install windows first and reserve space for Ubuntu12:16
corpchou, windows is already installed12:17
corpdo i have to reinstall? or can i "shrink" the partition12:17
Choubakacorp: hmmm12:17
Choubakacan the ubuntu installer shrink ntfs?12:17
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corpheh12:18
sylttycens0red: yes I know that. But I can't remeber did I install it or was it installed by the Ubuntu installer12:18
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NinoAmaranth: yes, but the docu in the file tells me to uncomment12:18
cens0redsyltty damn. My first real chance to help somebody! lol.12:19
tim_corp: Use PartitionMagic for resize/shrink partition12:19
sylttycens0red: Do you have that package installed (libgtk1.2) ?12:19
Choubakasyltty: hm.12:19
cens0redsyltty it's on my freshly installed build of ubuntu, and I didn't ask for it to be there. So I guess it must be installed by default.12:19
ChoubakaWhy not just tell them libgtk1.2 is required?12:19
corptim: thanks12:20
NinoAmaranth: yes, but the docu in the file tells me to uncomment12:20
Ninodeb http://de.archive.ubuntu.../ubuntu hoary main restricted12:20
Choubakaand how to install it in case it's not installed?12:20
Ninodeb http://de.archive.ubuntu.../ubuntu hoary main universe12:20
sylttycens0red: thanks for the info12:20
Ninobut it says nothing about the security.ubuntgu.com things...12:20
corpPM is not free is it12:20
cens0redis there a clipboard manager for gnome?12:20
NinoAmaranth: do i have to uncomment the rest, too?12:20
AmaranthNino: So uncomment the security line.12:20
ChoubakaNino: those are the security repos12:20
Choubakauncomment them too12:20
corpso i can't install windows after linux?12:20
sylttyChoubaka: well I was going for simple install instructions...12:21
ChoubakaIt's more difficult.12:21
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Choubakasyltty: what's difficult with "apt-get install libgtk1.2"?12:21
Choubakathe user can do that even if the package is already installed.12:22
sylttyChoubaka: absolutely nothing :)12:22
Choubakait won't hurt :)12:22
NinoAmaranth: ok, they should update the docu of these files... it is rather unclear. also internet archives should be activated by default!12:22
tim_cort: yes! what bootloader are you want to use?12:22
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ChoubakaHow many Finns on this channel btw? Until now I have identified two!12:22
MattJlol, i just downloaded the ep of veronica mars, nice to see ubuntu be talked about on tv12:22
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AmaranthNino: If you install from CD I think it leaves it commentted so it'll still work without internet access.12:22
AmaranthNino: Did you have an internet (broadband) connection setup when you installed? That might be why too.12:23
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NinoAmaranth: i installed from CD. in fact i would prefere to do a complete net install but the ubuntu CD refused to get the stuff from a archive mirror from the internet :/ (in expert mode) something must be wrong with the installer of the hoary CD. is this sarge?12:25
Hueyis there an "official" place to install third-party software that doesn't have a debian package?12:25
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epicentercaphuso: That worked great! But how do I run a binary in the chroot that isn't a global like 'mozilla-firefox'?12:26
epicenterlike /home/user/foo/bar12:26
AmaranthHuey: Whereever it drops it, basically. But use checkinstall (apt-get this) and instead of running 'make install' run 'checkinstall'12:26
AmaranthHuey: It'll create a deb so you can use apt and dpkg to uninstall it later.12:26
corpall i need from windows is photoshop. is there a way to run it under linux?12:26
rrfshhello, i have a provblem. i wnat to connect to the internet with my nokia which is connect with ps via bluetoth but it doesn't work , it gave this problem: he pppd daemon died unexpectedly!12:26
rrfshExit status: 112:26
rrfshSee 'man pppd' for an explanation of the error codes or take a look at the kppp FAQ on %112:26
HueyAmaranth:  i don't mean things built from source, i mean third-party stuff like matlab12:26
Amaranthor12:27
Amarantherr, oh12:27
goldfishCan anyone recommend a good audio file splitter ?12:27
goldfishI want to split up some mp3's.12:27
Amaranthi guess just where ever it goes.12:27
Hueyisn't there some official place like /usr or /usr/local or something?12:28
rrfshhi huery,  a have a problem12:28
rrfshcan u help me please?12:28
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jr_G-manaudacity is a good audio manipulator...give it a try12:28
rrfshhe pppd daemon died unexpectedly!12:29
rrfshExit status: 112:29
rrfshSee 'man pppd' for an explanation of the error codes or take a look at the kppp FAQ on %112:29
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Amaranthgoldfish: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ ?12:30
Amaranthoh, someone beat me to it12:30
Ninook, next thing. Control Center Network Settings in KDE refuses to accept an IP for the Default Gateway and it also refuses to accept an IP for the DNS for my just plugged in PCMCIA ethernet card. pinging another pc (by IP) works. Why is this?12:30
goldfishI'll take a look thanks Amaranth.12:30
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Amaranthgoldfish: Thank jr_G-man :)12:30
goldfishoh thanks jr_G-man :)12:30
TFPhi12:30
goldfishdidn't notice :)12:31
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rrfshhi goldfish12:32
goldfishhello12:32
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rrfshcan u hel me ?12:32
NinoAmaranth: can you help me with this?12:32
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Elekasomebody spanish?12:32
rrfshgoldfish i have a problem with12:32
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AmaranthNino: Did it ask your for your password before it started?12:33
corpeleka: no soy pero estoy en espaa :)12:33
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NinoAmaranth: yes. It also accept the IP of the network adapter.12:33
_aSeSiNo_hi all12:33
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AmaranthNino: No clue then.12:34
jr_G-mannp12:34
NinoAmaranth: where can i edit the conf by hand for a pcmcia?12:34
jr_G-manbut, thank Amaranth for providing the link :)12:34
Amaranthjr_G-man: But we install apps with apt-get. :)12:35
AmaranthNino: Also no clue, I use DHCP.12:35
Ninoic12:35
AmaranthNino: And GNOME. :)12:35
AmaranthFor Kubuntu help you should really ask #kubuntu12:35
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jr_G-mantrue...which is how i installed...12:35
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jr_G-manbut a homepage link is always valuable12:35
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_aSeSiNo_hi all12:37
Elekasomebody can help me with my soundcard? I listen it, but its sound is very bad12:38
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Elekahola _asesino_ xD12:39
MistaEDwhat is it, eleka?12:39
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Elekaa Realtek soundcar12:39
Elekasoundcard12:39
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MistaEDalso, can anyone tell me how to make a deb package? i have all the files set out12:40
_aSeSiNo_hi Eleka12:40
_aSeSiNo_como vas jejeje12:40
MistaEDhmm, you could try apt-get alsamixerconf12:40
_aSeSiNo_Eleka, ke le pacha a tu soundcard12:40
MistaEDthen try it, i found it to be a decent gui to configure sound12:40
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Elekapues que nosouena _asesino_, la detecta, pero no suena bien12:41
Somebody_Where's the system mail, and root's mail kept?12:41
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_aSeSiNo_ok12:42
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_aSeSiNo_a ver12:42
goldfishemmm12:42
_aSeSiNo_let see12:42
testingI just booted the live cd at school and therefore I don12:42
testingdon't know very much about the hardware.12:42
goldfishAnyone that used audacity, is libmp3lame.so available anywhere in the repos?12:42
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testingThe screen has only 60Hz. How can I change it?12:43
testingIt should support 85Hz at 1024x786.12:43
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MistaEDok i really need some help here: i have a dir with a control.tar.gz, a data.tar.gz and a debian-binary12:48
MistaEDhow do i combine it into a deb?12:48
MistaEDcan i simply make a tar of it all and rename it to deb or..?12:48
liabletesting: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86?12:48
testingliable, will try12:48
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BurgundaviaMistaED, deb is far more complicated than that12:50
liableSomebody_: /var/mail12:51
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testingliable, it says: not installed12:51
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liabletesting: using xorg i spose?12:51
Zombhi12:51
Zombanyone using screen?12:51
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Zombfor some reason I get ^? for Backspace in curses apps12:51
Zombbut not in readline based ones12:52
testingliable, just downloaded the file off of the homepage. i don't know which i'm using.12:52
liabletesting: same thing but xorg instaed of xfree86, dunno dont have it12:52
testingliable, it works12:52
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Zombno matter what I set as TERM (xterm, urxvt, screen)12:52
liabletesting: what works12:52
HuwgeMistaED: check out http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ for info on building debs12:53
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testingliable, the command. i'm running the configure-stuff right now.12:53
liabletesting: oh, ok12:54
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fulletsis it possible to use the 'connect to server...' menu item to connect to a samba server as a non-anonymous user?12:58
fulletsi just get logged in anonymously12:58
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fulletsi think the problem is that the server will log you in anonymously if you supply a correct username and no password12:58
Zombfullets:  what about adding user@ before the server name?12:58
ZombInto the URL I mean12:59
fulletsand there is no textfield in the dialog for a password12:59
fulletsZomb, I can enter the username ok12:59
scizzofullets: well it asks for the User Name: in the Windows share12:59
fulletsit just won't let me enter a password12:59
scizzofullets: is the share public or something?01:00
scizzofullets: does it require password or not?01:00
fulletsscizzo, both01:00
MistaEDi'm pretty much just repacking a cedega deb package which supports x86-6401:01
fulletsscizzo, if you want write access you must supply a valid username and password01:01
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MistaEDisn't there a way to just inject these tar.gz replacements then?01:01
fulletsif you don't supply a username, or you supply a valid username and no password, you get read only access01:01
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mattgyhi. I'm installing a copy of ubuntu on a compaq laptop and the installer isn't detecting any existing partitions.01:02
murraycIs there already a new unstable ubuntu branch?01:02
InitMassdoes a computer be connected to internet when installing hoary from a cdrom?01:02
mattgythere are existing ext3, reiserfs and ntfs partitions there that I don't want to kill.. any ideas?01:02
InitMass*has to be connected01:02
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locomortono01:03
locomortomattgy: sudo apt-get install gparted01:03
scizzofullets: sounds like the share is accessible with guest or something01:03
fulletsindeed01:03
l33txpis there somewhere i can go to get like a guide to ubunto??01:04
mattgylocomorto: that's a little tough when I'm running the installer and don't have an system yet. :)01:04
scizzol33txp: www.ubuntuguide.org ?01:04
fulletswhat i think is happening, is that it's trying to authenticate without a password before it prompts me for one01:04
locomortoah01:04
locomortojust use manual partioting01:04
fulletswhich means it succeeds as guest01:04
l33txpwhat other internet browswers are avaliable?01:04
locomortoeverything for *nix01:04
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fulletsi'm just wondering if there's some way to force it to ask for a password01:05
locomortogaleon, kounquer01:05
scizzol33txp: ummm...01:05
mattgylocomorto: yes, but it doesn't detect any partition table. it says there's a 40gb free-an-clear drive there with no partitions, when in fact a bootable xp and debian system are on multiple existing partitions.01:05
scizzol33txp: firefox, mozilla, galeon, epiphany, etc01:05
kzmHave they stopped updating Hoary?01:05
scizzol33txp: your choice01:05
locomortoodd01:05
mattgylocomorto: yeah. a bug with parted? the installer? hmmm..01:05
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kzmI know it's released, but surely there are more bugs to be ironed out?  Do I need to update sources.list?01:05
scizzol33txp: apt-cache search <itemtosearchfor>01:05
l33txpnice.. i'm very new to linux..01:05
locomortoget system rescue CD and boot up qt_parted01:05
Quinn_Stormok, ubuntu trm package...it doesn't support looking up mp3?! when'd that happen?01:06
mattgylocomorto: ok, will try. on this west african 128kbps link. :( thanks, though.01:06
scizzoQuinn_Storm: that is standard01:06
scizzoQuinn_Storm: its a restrictedformat01:07
Quinn_Stormscizzo: until recently, trm worked w/ mp301:07
locomortoits only 100mb or so01:07
locomortoso just leave it on overnight01:07
l33txpok.. now stuff for linux.. which distribution do I download for??01:08
scizzoQuinn_Storm: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:08
scizzoQuinn_Storm: trm_01:08
scizzoQuinn_Storm: trm? even01:08
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Quinn_Stormscizzo: its part of musicbrainz lookups01:08
Hueyis there a way to mount nfs shares with nautilus?01:09
Hueyby mount, i mean with the gnome-vfs layer, not officially mounting01:09
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scizzoQuinn_Storm: I don't have trm here01:10
scizzoQuinn_Storm: using normal gstreamer stuff01:11
Quinn_Stormscizzo: its not part of gstreamer, its part of libtunepimp / musicbrainz01:11
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karltkI was wondering what tricks I have to do in order to get printing working properly. I've started /etc/init.d/cupsys, it listens to port localhost:631, but when trying to connect to this port (say, by printing from kdf, using konqueror or even telnet), it just hangs. Any ideas?01:12
kzmAnybody know what the function "bonobo_activation_activate_from_id" does?01:12
l33txpGuys.. how do I get my ATI video and nForce platform drivers on here???01:12
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corphello. how can i repair broken packages?01:12
scizzocorp: try to use apt-get -f install01:13
scizzocorp: not apt-get -f install package01:13
scizzocorp: just apt-get -f install01:13
scizzocorp: but that depends on the broken package01:13
corpi was triyng to install KDE01:14
corpand in mid-download, gnome died01:14
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b00giehello01:14
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b00gieehm... is there any way to verify ubuntu disk?01:15
scizzocorp: ok?01:15
l33txpGuys.. how do I get my ATI video and nForce platform drivers on here???01:15
scizzol33txp: we saw you asking the first time...01:15
corpscziz: trying now01:15
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corpsc: looks like it works. thanks!01:16
corphow would i switch to KDE now, once it's installed01:16
corpfrom gnome01:16
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Amaranthcorp: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:17
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scizzol33txp: what ATI card are you using01:17
kzmIs KDE more robust than Gnome?01:17
XgatesWoOT finally got this BASTARD01:17
kzmGnome 2.10 doesn't really work for me.01:17
propagandhihow do u execute cedega??01:17
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propagandhikzm: how doesnt it work??01:18
Xgatessay is there a Win32 package in Ubuntu?01:18
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bogusyea01:18
l33txpI have an ATI Radeon 9600XT01:18
bogusapt-get install windowsxp-pro01:18
goldfishlol01:18
Xgatesbogus: LOL very funny01:18
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XgatesWin32 means the codec you bonehead01:19
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kzmpropagandhi: no.  I've ended up running from .xsession with metacity and panel, as a rough approximation.  But most applets etc. refuse to start, they just hang on a call to bonobo_activation_activate_from_id01:19
smouchecan anyone explain why I'm suddenly getting this error when I try to create a new text file with nano:01:19
smoucheUnable to open ~/.nano_history file, Permission denied01:19
scizzoXgates: looked at the RestrictedFormats on the wiki=01:19
propagandhikzm: use kde it's way better01:19
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kzmIn addition, keybindings are pretty half-baked, and fonts are changed in an erratic fashion.01:19
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scizzol33txp: depending on the card and so on it is risky to install some binary drivers01:20
kzmI guess.01:20
Xgatessmouche: as sudo run this --> chown nick:users .nano_history file REPLACE nick with your login nick :)01:20
scizzol33txp: but: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto is one place to look01:20
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Xgatesscizzo: where URL?01:20
smoucheXgates, ok, thanks --01:20
mattgylocomorto: seems that Ubuntu's installer and/or parted have trouble with some ntfs partitions resized beforehand with parted. I manually fixed things with fdisk, but since the resized ntfs partition didn't end on a cylinder block ubuntu can't handle it. I'll file a bug.01:20
scizzoXgates: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:21
corpamar: will that automatically switch my mangaer?01:21
Xgatesscizzo: thanks01:21
scizzoXgates: might be old information but it should still work somewhat01:21
corpi'm using Synaptic now to install KDE01:21
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corpi guess i'll see what happens when it finishes =01:21
locomortobad luck for you :(01:21
l33txpok thanks.. one more n00b question... when it says "first type "sudo" what is that and where do I type that??01:21
locomortoi used qt_parted which intrun uses ntfs-resize or something01:21
locomortointurn*01:21
scizzol33txp: sudo == su do01:22
thoreauputicl33txp: in a terminal is where01:22
scizzol33txp: sudo is being used instead of a root account01:22
nategnome-pilot just crashed on me01:22
scizzol33txp: the ATI stuff is being done on your own risk...don't know how good it will work with the card you have at the moment01:22
nateI knew I was pushing my luck trying to launch Cube at the same time01:22
natebut I didn't expect it to lock up my machine quite so hard01:23
l33txpi understand.. but thanks!!01:23
natenow it seems to have left gpilotd in a weird state, even after a reboot01:23
natewhen I click on the panel Pilot daemon applet, it crashes instantly01:24
nateand preferences for it show that 'execute when clicked' is blank01:24
nateI presume this is supposed to contain something?01:24
smoucheXgates, thank you -- that worked -- but do you know why that error started happening?  I've been using nano as this user all along...01:24
thoreauputicnate: in a terminal, try typing this:         killall gpilotd01:25
jr_G-mananybody know how to make dmraid run automatically at boot?01:25
nateok01:25
nateI've already done that and am trying to rerun the Pilot preferences capplet01:26
natebut it's not detecting the Palm again, do I need to reboot or something?01:26
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thoreauputicnate: no01:26
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thoreauputicnate: try this:   ps aux |grep gpilot01:27
thoreauputicnate: see if there are processes still running01:27
nateno gpilotd running at present01:27
thoreauputicOK01:27
thoreauputicps aux | grep pilot01:28
Xgatessmouche: not sure I had it happen to somehow the perms changed01:28
Xgatesbbl01:28
thoreauputicsee if that catches anything01:28
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corpdamn. KDE has been configuring for 15 mnutes now01:28
corpis that normal?01:28
thoreauputicno01:29
thoreauputicnate: no result?01:29
nateno result in Gnome Pilot Settings at the 'about to retrieve username from Pilot' stage01:30
nateit's just waiting01:30
smoucheok, thx Xgates!01:30
ac-idi have an radeon 920001:30
ac-idwhere can i find it in synaptic packages?01:30
ac-idthe driver that is01:30
ac-idi searched but i think my searching skills are sucky01:30
corpwhat's that for?01:30
thoreauputicnate: sometimes when an app locks, it leaves afew processes behing that cause problems01:31
natemmm01:31
corpoops01:31
nateguess I should reboot again to clear it?01:31
thoreauputicnate: the idea is to try and identify them01:31
natewhat other than gpilotd might be the culprit?01:31
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ac-idany idea guys?01:32
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thoreauputicnate: you can, but in linux rebooting rarely is an answer01:32
ac-idabout the radeon driver01:32
thoreauputicnate: and you don't find out the root of the problem01:32
ac-idor must i download it from their website?01:32
Burgundaviaac-id, just change your xorg.conf it will work01:32
njanac-id, just give people a minute to read your question, have a little patience ;)01:32
Burgundaviaac-id, already there01:32
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ac-idsorry :)01:32
ac-idlemme check what i got atm01:32
thoreauputicnate: but go ahead and reboot if you prefer01:33
nateI'm just asking what the current accepted wisdom is as to the best way of clearing this kind of error01:33
cens0redhi. What apt or dpkg command do I use to list all the files in an installed package?01:33
Burgundavianate, try restarting X01:33
ac-id Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9200 SE (RV280)"01:33
ac-id        Driver          "ati"01:33
ac-id        BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"01:33
Burgundavianate, ctrl-alt-bksp01:33
ac-idand i seem to not be running xorg01:33
ac-id:(01:33
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ac-ideven though i did a dist-upgrade01:33
nateBurgundavia: and that's different from rebooting how? :-)01:33
Burgundavianate, just restarts X, not the kernel01:34
natesure01:34
natebut all my processes are launched from X windows aren't they01:34
thoreauputicnate: well, you usually do a bit of detective work- another file to look at is ~/.xsession-errors01:34
nateall my user ones anyway01:34
murraycOoh. The Munich council has chosen debian.01:34
fsapolol... there's no better way to start a day then laughing at some microsoft stupid projects01:34
natethoreauputic: ok, I'll check that01:34
Burgundaviafsapo, hmm?01:34
smouchecan anyone recommend a nice file browser to use in an xterm, that I could use to browse my files sort of like lynx browses the web?  is there an ncurses app for that?01:35
thoreauputicnate: no, some processes continue to run outside X - no point in always rebooting01:35
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fsapoBurgundavia, i ll have to explain the hole thing for u but i ll with pleasure :)01:35
thoreauputicsmouche: sure, Midnight Commander01:35
fsapoBurgundavia, i m in brazil and the government is with a project called "connected pc"01:35
thoreauputicsmouche: also known as mc01:35
natelots of gnome-cups-icon 'failed request with status 1030' messages01:35
Burgundaviafsapo, oh that thing. Xp-starter01:35
fsapoBurgundavia, this pc is a low cost pc and comes with linux by default01:35
natedon't imagine that has anything to do with USB or pilot though01:35
nateon my last machine I used to get hardware-level USB lockups something chronic01:36
fsapoBurgundavia, yes.. but did u see the crazy stuff?01:36
fsapoBurgundavia, you cant use network01:36
natethat was running Warty01:36
smouchethoreauputic, of course!  heh heh - I should have realized, since I like to use guis that describe themselves as being like "midnight commander" - thanks!01:36
Burgundaviafsapo, no internet?01:36
fsapoBurgundavia, it just uses 128MB or ram and justa accept 40GB of HD01:36
fsapoBurgundavia, it has internet but no LAN01:37
Burgundaviafsapo, real smart, crippled and expensive vs good and free01:37
natemanager.c/925: New Device: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_830_60_100_-1_PalmSN1234567801:37
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nate** Message: No pilot userid/username information located** Message: Unable to load pilot id/username, assuming unset01:37
propagandhianyone know a good guide to using cedega01:37
nateall that seems normal to me...01:37
locomortothier site?01:38
fsapoBurgundavia, most of the brazillian government stuff are already using linux01:38
locomortoit has lots of guides and a good forum with most questions answered01:38
locomortoyou also get point2play01:38
nateany other suggestions as to where I should look for clues as to why gpilotd is not gpiloting?01:38
fsapoBurgundavia, Bill Gates wanted to talk with the president but the president said NO to him hahaha01:38
Burgundaviafsapo, lol01:38
nateis there a standard way of restarting the daemon? (other than rebooting which would be against the Zen of Linux)01:38
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r0skhi01:39
fsapoBurgundavia, and now.. the brazillian Bank is starting to change everything to linux too :)01:39
r0skanyone has tried hoary 5.04 on iBook g4?01:39
r0skthere is no #ubuntu-ppc channel01:39
thoreauputicnate: haha - if it's a daemon, you might be able to do sudo /etc/init.d/gpilotd restart or something like that01:39
cens0redhi. What apt or dpkg command do I use to list all the files in an installed package?01:40
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thoreauputicI don't know gpilotd, but it's worth seeing if that will tab complete01:40
fsapoBurgundavia, just for start it was less 13 millions to pay in software licenses :) but it just started changing its system01:40
natethoreauputic: never mind, it appears to be being launched from OAF01:40
r0skcens0red, dpkg -l >> installed.txt01:40
snowblinkcens0red, dpkg -L packagename01:40
Xgatesman this is so frustrating I compiled all the time in Slack and everything worked so easy now in Ubuntu everything is so different trying to figure how to get things to work01:41
Xgates:/01:41
cens0redsnowblink thanx101:41
cens0red!01:41
r0skcens0red, snowblink is right, I'd improve my english :)01:41
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Xgatesdoes anyone with Xine to get dvds to play if anything needs to be setup?01:41
natethoreauputic: and I don't grok OAF terribly well. But  an init.d won't do much good by the look of it01:41
thoreauputicok01:41
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natenever mind01:42
cens0redsnowblink the apt howto is saying I should use "$ apt-file list packagename", but apt-file returns an error01:42
SeamusLPXgates:  I'm running totem-xine, had to get libdvdcss01:42
thoreauputicyou would know more than me then - i don't know OAF at all01:42
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SeamusLPXgates:  I believe I compiled that from source and it worked fine afterwards01:42
S}{0RTYHi01:42
S}{0RTYcan anyone help me get my printer to work with ubuntu01:43
SeamusLPXgates libdvdcss that is, not totem-xine01:43
S}{0RTYi am a linux noob :P01:43
XgatesSeamusLP: there is no package for it?01:43
johns^S}{0RTY: aren't we all01:43
SeamusLPXgates:  There are legal issues01:43
snowblinkcens0red, apt-file isn't installed by default01:43
thoreauputiccens0red: if it's installed, do dpkg -S <package>01:43
thoreauputiccapital S01:43
XgatesSeamusLP: did you make yours into a .deb pack?01:44
yfiranyone here use Grip?01:44
MistaEDS}{ORTY: Administration > Printing01:44
SeamusLPXgates Nah, just did a ./configure make make install01:44
cens0redthoreauputic yep that works too. ty.01:44
Xgatesk01:44
BurgundaviaXgates,  SeamusLP why not use the one in debian-marilliar01:44
SeamusLPBurgundavia didn't realize it was in marilliat01:44
BurgundaviaSeamusLP, works fine01:45
XgatesBurgundavia: I was reading a little on that, HOW do you do that get it through Synaptic?01:45
x3nixanyone can give a nome of a msn cliente for linux?01:45
S}{0RTYMistaED, I've tried to set it up but it doesnt print01:45
zeedox3nix: gaim01:45
yfirx3nix: doesn't Gaim work?01:45
BurgundaviaXgates, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:45
SeamusLPx3nix:  gaim is installed by default, and can handle msn among other plugins01:45
XgatesBurgundavia: yea the URL01:45
S}{0RTYits an epson stylus photo r30001:45
BurgundaviaXgates, it tells you how to add the debian marilliat repo01:46
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Xgatesjust dont feel like reading, late and all I want to do is pop the DVD and sit back and watch it01:46
XgatesLOL01:46
Xgatessheesh01:46
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cens0redwe gotta get a relevant ubuntu apt howto happening.01:46
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SeamusLPXgates:  It's almost that simple :)01:46
yfircens0red: why don't you do it? :)01:46
Ninohey, i want to complain. i want to use ubuntu on my laptop. my laptop has a pcmcia ethernet. whatever ubuntu has no configuration program to setup this pcmcia ethernet. in fact i visited the debian reference and this spammed my mind. it wants me to configure several config files and add cryptic commands to it. i expect ubuntu to give me a nice little window where i will add my ip, dns, router and so on...!01:46
jinx``what's the time @ your location?01:47
cens0redyfir good question. Maybe I will when I'm an old hand at this distro. If people can wait that long.01:47
Xgatesk01:47
jinx``<< 13:4801:47
JimbobNino: System->Administration->Networking01:47
fsapojinx``, ? 9:00 AM here :P01:47
jinx``:)01:47
locomortoxgates is not in marralt01:47
jinx``us eastcoast?01:47
XgatesNext, if you are using Hoary: Start by installing the Marillat gpg key per01:48
XgatesCrap need to install this gpg ....01:48
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Xgateslocomorto: huh?01:48
natewoohoo01:48
natefound the problem01:48
BurgundaviaXgates, gpg is not needed01:48
locomortoits not in there01:48
locomortoi tried to find it01:48
SeamusLPNino:  Gnome-system-tools is coming along nicely.  the network config app should work just fine.01:48
XgatesBurgundavia: k01:48
natemy /dev/pilot symlink to /dev/ttyUSB1 had vanished01:48
BurgundaviaXgates, it will just cough up a warning about it01:48
thoreauputicSeamusLP: he left without waiting for an naswer01:49
thoreauputic*answer..... bleh01:49
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SeamusLPthoreauputic:  That's too bad.  Configuring your network really is simple now.01:50
nateare pilot-utils able to cope with the Palm JPEG libaries yet or do they still crash?01:50
thoreauputicSeamusLP: it really kills me the way people complain about free software... *sigh* ah, well...01:50
XgatesBurgundavia: yea I see01:51
XgatesBUT01:51
fsapojinx``, brazil east :)01:51
natethoreauputic: well, one could say that a free piece of software that consumes time and doesn't do what the user wants is actually not a gift01:51
jinx``:)01:51
XgatesBurgundavia: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary01:51
XgatesBurgundavia: and then just run these commands:01:51
Xgatesgpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B90701:51
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Xgatesgpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -01:51
natethe only thing worse would be software that you have to pay money for and doesn't do what you want...01:52
SeamusLPthoreauputic:  Especially when all it takes is a little curiousity and resolve to figure this stuff out... It's made even easier in a distribution like ubuntu01:52
thoreauputicnate: that's true - but if you want the gifts to improve, it's kind of responsible to make an effort, don't you think?01:52
natethoreauputic: that's usually what people who report bugs think they're doing, in my experience01:52
nate'complaining' is the first stage of reporting a bug01:52
thoreauputicnate: yes, that's a good thing to do01:53
propagandhianybody here have cedega 4.3101:53
thoreauputicnate: well, not really - bug reporting isn't complaining, i it?01:53
thoreauputic*is it01:53
Xgatesroot@ubuntu:~# gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -01:53
XgatesOK01:53
XgatesWoOT01:53
Xgateslooks ok01:53
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theine_sorry, got disconnected, anybody answered to my question about metacity?01:55
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yfirdoes anyone here use Grip to rip CDs?01:55
Burgundaviayfir, why not use sound juicer?01:55
frankpropaghandi01:55
natethoreauputic: bug reporting is a bit more formalised, yes. So formalised I find myself hardly ever reporting actual bugs. For one thing, you have to be able to isolate and reproduce the problem just to be able to answer all the questions Bug Buddy wants to know. That's not a trivial thing for even seasoned users.01:55
SeamusLPyfir:  I do.  And burgundavia, grip is awesome :)01:55
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frankpropaghandi I do01:55
XgatesSeamusLP: I got it going in that marralt, yeah that was easy, LOL01:55
XgatesSimple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries01:55
XgatesTo allow applications to access some of the more advanced features01:55
Xgatesof the DVD format.01:55
yfirBurgundavia: i prefer the control that grip gives01:56
SeamusLPyfir:  Are you having problems with it?01:56
yfirSeamusLP: is it working properly for you?01:56
nateprobably there should be a way to narrow the gap between 'free-floating gripe' and 'fully filed and reported bug'01:56
SeamusLPyfir:  It wasn't until I disabled dma01:56
Somebody_Hello when I try to create a link in my home dir for my webserver files I get: ln: `/var/www/': hard link not allowed for directory01:56
SeamusLPyfir:  Enabled I mean01:56
XgatesPreconfiguring packages ...01:56
XgatesSelecting previously deselected package libdvdcss2.01:56
Xgates:-)01:56
SeamusLPyfir:  What problem you having?01:56
yfirSeamusLP: yeah, i noticed it points to /dev/cdrom but that obviosly doesn't work.. so01:56
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yfirSeamusLP: whatever i change it to, it still complains.01:57
nateI guess one reason I don't like reporting bugs is that I generally figure if it's a real problem, someone else must surely have already reported it and I'm just not smart enough to work out how to search the existing bug reports to find out if it's there01:57
thoreauputicnate: that's true too. I kind of acted as a tester on a bug I reported recently - the maintainer asked me to compile and test some things, and we worked it out01:57
SeamusLPyfir:  Try /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd01:57
locomortois there anyway to schedule azerus to downlod between certain times?01:57
locomortomaybe through cron/anacron01:57
yfirSeamusLP: yeah, i did. maybe i the permissions on them aren't se right. thakns, i'll try again01:57
thoreauputicnate: if it's been reported you usually get a one line mail to that effect01:58
yfirsorry about the poor typing :) i've been up a long time01:58
SeamusLPyfir:  Are you in the cdrom group?01:58
yfirSeamusLP: yep01:58
natethe Ubuntu websites and wikis seem like a pretty good FAQ collection, the best I've seen for a Linux distribution so far01:58
locomortonate: also look at www.ubuntuguide.org01:58
nateso that goes some way toward answering the 'is this a bug or a feature' question01:58
locomortoits still being ported too hoary so wait till its all up01:58
XgatesWoOT Xine is playing it01:58
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Xgatesbut Totem says cant open dvd://01:59
Xgateshmm01:59
thoreauputicsome of the gentoo "tips and tricks" type pages are pretty good too, i must say01:59
natelocomorto: I've seen that, it's very nice, though tilted a bit far toward installing unsupported / illegal software for my liking01:59
Xgatesthanks Burgundavia01:59
locomortoillegeal?01:59
natebut it does answer the 'politically incorrect' questions like 'how do I play DVDs'01:59
Xgateswhats Totems problem that wont play a DVD that Xine will01:59
SeamusLPXgates:  Might be a configuration thing with totem...  See if it points to the right dvd device01:59
Xgatesnot that I care much about Totem01:59
locomortowhat is illgeal (sp) in there?01:59
BurgundaviaXgates, np01:59
thoreauputicnate: that is only illegal in a few misguided countries02:00
natelocomorto: installing a free MP3 player or DeCSS may be illegal in some jurisdictions depending on patent law. I'm not entirely sure what NZ's stance is.02:00
BurgundaviaXgates, xine uses xine lib, which is legally questionable02:00
nate(New Zealand, where I live)02:00
nateso I prefer to play it safe02:00
Burgundaviatotem only links to the codecs02:00
praetoriana kiwi!02:00
natemm-hmm02:00
locomortodoes NZ have the DMCA?02:01
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XgatesSeamusLP: yes in the Preferences its pointing to the Dvd player02:01
thoreauputicthere's a place for enlightened civil disobedience when the law is absurd02:01
nateThat's a US law, but we are a signatory to WIPO (the treaty that DMCA implements), I believe02:01
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natehowever IANAL so I'm not quite sure02:01
SeamusLPXgates:  Are you using gstreamer?02:01
yfirSeamusLP: well, I changed it to /dev/hdc and it works now! funny thing is, i could have sworn I tried that yesterday02:01
yfirSeamusLP: anyway, thanks for the suggestion02:02
SeamusLPyfir:  No problem.  I had to enable DMA to get it to work quickly, though.  You can use hdparm for that.02:02
Xgateshere02:02
Xgates** Message: don't know how to handle video/mpeg, mpegversion=(int)2, systemstrea m=(boolean)false02:02
Xgates** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-ac302:02
Xgatesahh02:02
Xgateslet me see02:02
SeamusLPXgates:  You need codecs :P02:03
SeamusLPXgates:  Check out addons for gstreamer in the repositories02:03
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locomortow32codecs02:03
locomortogstreamer-8.x i think02:03
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nateok, let's see if my Tungsten can talk to Evolution now...02:04
BurgundaviaXgates, install w32codecs and totem-xine02:04
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nateit's doing something, that's a good sign02:04
XgatesSeamusLP: I have gstreamer02:05
Xgatesso what just need Win32?02:05
natewoohoo!02:05
nateI have syncage02:05
jinx``someone ever played darwinia?02:05
propagandhiANYBODY HERE HAVE CEDEGA 4.3.102:05
stasI have cedega 43102:05
SeamusLPBurgundavia, xgates:  He already has xine.  No need to redundancy?02:05
BurgundaviaSeamusLP, totem-xine is nice and simple. Much cleaner interface02:05
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IceGuest_5sorry to interrupt, can anybody help me.  I am trying to instal UBUNTU and cannot get it to recognize the mouse02:06
SeamusLPBurgundavia:  I think that's a personal preference thing02:06
thoreauputicA law that restricts people's access to information is a bad law unless it involves personal or national safety02:06
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Burgundaviathoreauputic, even national security is iffy02:07
Burgundaviathoreauputic, can too easily be abused02:07
thoreauputicBurgundavia: I tend to agree02:07
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propagandhithoreauputic: are u saying National security is important enough to withold information from the public??02:07
nullaresnataHello, how do I find an usb scanner on ubuntu?02:07
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Burgundavianullaresnata, plug it in02:07
Burgundavianullaresnata, then start XSane02:07
XgatesSeamusLP, Burgundavia I never heard of totem-xine before02:07
Xgateshmm02:07
thoreauputicpropagandhi: it's a grey area, for sure02:07
Xgatesany URL to see it?02:08
SeamusLPthoreaputic:  Any politician can say that x is a threat to national security to get what he wants.02:08
BurgundaviaXgates, totem is the default movie plyaer. Totem-xine is the xine backend02:08
thoreauputicpropagandhi: on the whole, I doubt it02:08
Xgatesbecause at Xine I have never seen that02:08
nullaresnataAh, ok. I didn't know about xsane.02:08
thoreauputicSeamusLP: yes, true02:08
BurgundaviaXgates, gstreamer is the default backend02:08
nullaresnataOk. Thanks about that!02:08
XgatesBurgundavia: oh the backends, LOL ya ya I dont know what I was thinking02:08
XgatesLOL02:08
BurgundaviaXgates, very nice from a developers perspective, but not finished yet and the plugins suck for it02:08
BurgundaviaXgates, gstreamer that is02:08
frankpropaghandi: YES02:08
XgatesI just use plain ole Xine02:08
thoreauputicI was thinking more about effects of war on people, but your points are valid02:09
Burgundavianullaresnata, if it doesn't work, it is a bug02:09
micsch_hi, i have a little problem with warty: Die folgenden Pakete haben nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten:02:09
micsch_  libgtk2.0-dev: Hngt ab: libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.4.1-2) ist aber nicht installierbar02:09
micsch_                 Hngt ab: libpango1.0-dev (>= 1.4.0-3) ist aber nicht installierbar02:09
micsch_                 Hngt ab: libatk1.0-dev (>= 1.6.1-2) ist aber nicht installierbar02:09
micsch_                 Hngt ab: libx11-dev soll aber nicht installiert werden oder02:09
micsch_                           xlibs-dev soll aber nicht installiert werden02:09
micsch_E: Kaputte Pakete02:09
propagandhidefine national security firstly02:09
frankpropaghandi: I have cedega02:09
Xgatesbut I was just farting with Totem just to see if it would work ok02:09
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XgatesI always use Xine02:09
propagandhii think its an invention of governments to explain why they didnt tell us the truth02:09
nullaresnataOk.02:09
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SeamusLPThoreauputic:  It seems to me that people are often being dragged along by the people in power.  But that's a discussion for a different room.02:09
natethis rocks02:09
Xgatessheesh a LITTLE FLOOD there micsch_02:09
propagandhi"it was for the national security"02:09
natefor once in my life I have synchronised home, work and PDA calendars02:09
micsch_Xgates, sorry02:09
ChoubakaAnd in German, no less.02:09
nullaresnataIt worked.02:09
thoreauputicSeamusLP: it is indeed :)02:09
nullaresnataReally, really cool.02:10
Xgateswaht GERMAN flooding02:10
nullaresnataThanks a lot, Burgundavia!!!02:10
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propagandhitrue indeed02:10
Xgatesgodl/cold .....02:10
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micsch_Xgates, lol :-902:10
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locomortoi wish i could install xgates on linux02:10
locomortobe fun to bash up gates02:10
natexgates?02:11
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locomortowww.googleityoumoron.com02:11
nateis that in universe somewhere?02:11
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Choubakalocomorto: it's xbill, isn't it?02:11
Burgundavianullaresnata, cool02:11
nateaha02:11
SeamusLPnate:  What calendaring do you use?02:11
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locomortotheres xgates for MacOSX02:11
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nateSeamusLP: At work, Novell Groupwise, using Messaging Architects GWanywhere02:11
propagandhifrank: where did u get it02:11
Frafrafor calcolate the md5 of a cd burned?02:11
Xgateswhat02:12
XgatesLOL02:12
thoreauputicpropagandhi: I suppose I was meaning "national security" in a more idealistic sense - I agree that the term is used opportunistically02:12
XgatesME on MAC02:12
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XgatesWoOT02:12
frankpropagandhi: emule/amule02:12
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natethe Groupwise <--> Palm <--> Evolution conversion loses some information02:12
spacedmanapache/ssl q: if I want to serve http and https pages, should I install the apache package and mod_ssl, or just the apache-ssl package? This is on hoary...02:12
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natebut as long as I use only a subset of features it *might* hold together02:12
XgatesHEY I thought in the "Multimedia System Selector' this is where you can pick gstreamer?02:12
Xgateshmm02:12
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thoreauputicXgates: use the search, Luke02:13
Xgatesthoreauputic: huh?02:13
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thoreauputicnever mind02:13
natethoreauputic: I believe there was a debate among US atomic scientists in the immediate post-WW2 period as to how open scientific research should be02:13
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nateand the US sort of picked a middle path between secrecy and openness02:13
propagandhithoreauputic: i wasnt having a go at u, i just hate the term as a whole02:13
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SeamusLPnate:  I just don't bother with calendaring, lol.02:14
Jimbob*cough*02:14
thoreauputicnate: there is nothing new under the sun, I'm afraid02:14
nateall atomic research is still 'born classified' but fortunately stuff like TCP/IP wasn't. :)02:14
thoreauputicpropagandhi: yes, i know - and I agree with your sentiments02:14
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thoreauputicpropagandhi: I should have been more precise02:14
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natethe Soviets went the path of complete secrecy and it stuffed their economic base02:15
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XgatesI dont remeber how do you have totem pick between running gstreamer or xine?02:15
locomortoxbills not bad02:15
locomortonot enough gore tho02:15
Jimbobnate: No, 40% of the GDP being spent on the military stuffed their economic base (tanks & soldiers arent' too productive in the economic sense of the world)02:15
thoreauputicXgates: you install totem-xine or totem-gstreamer02:15
SeamusLPXgates:  There's no picking, really.  Just install totem-xine or totem-gstreamer02:15
nateJimbob: that too02:16
Jimbobnate: That only. :-)02:16
nateJimbob: what % of GDP does the USA spend on weapons, for comparison?02:16
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spacedmanoh dear, did i wander into #politics by mistake?02:16
propagandhithoreauputic: no worries at all02:16
Jimbobnate: $600bn / $12tn02:16
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thoreauputicspacedman: sort of - at the moment - sorry02:16
XgatesAhh02:17
Xgatesok02:17
mishofanyone knows how can i download the addon to firefox that lets me view videos on websites ?02:17
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thoreauputicspacedman: we will make an effort to get back on topic :)02:17
Xgateswasnt sure Im so use to compiling stuff now Im on this AUTO distro Im BRAIN DEAD02:17
XgatesLMAO02:17
spacedmanmaybe i'll just stuff the package install business and do it from source...02:17
Somebody_How would I create links between directories? ln doesn't seem to work? :(02:17
SeamusLPmishof:  There are really good guides for that in the forum, including one on how to embed totem-xine02:17
spacedmanSomebody_: ln creates hard links which you cant do across filesystems - 'ln -s' can link across anywhere by making a 'soft' link02:18
JimbobAmazingly there actually is a #politics02:18
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thoreauputicspacedman: you can do that, but it can get messy (package management issues)02:18
mishofSeamusLP, which forum ?02:18
Somebody_spacedman, thanks02:18
lunitikSomebody_: it does... ln -s /the/real/file /its/hang/out/spot02:18
nateJimbob: Only 5%? Hmm, not bad toys for that kind of money.02:18
SeamusLPmishof:  Probably hoary application support.  You'd be better off doing a search, though.02:18
mishofSeamusLP, thanks02:18
propagandhiI found someone on the gnutella network that is sharing the latest version of cedega02:18
SeamusLPmishof:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org02:18
Xgatesthoreauputic, SeamusLP totem-gstreamer is installed already02:18
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Xgateshmm not working02:18
Xgatesyeah gstreamer is not so stable from what I have seen02:19
Jimbobnate: 0.5% (one half of one percent)02:19
Xgatestotem-xine will probably work alot better02:19
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thoreauputicXgates: gstreamer doesn't really support a lot of stuff - xine is much better with the w32codecs02:19
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Jimbobnate: Well, California alone is the world's fifth largest economy.02:20
SeamusLPmishof:  Check this link out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17727   you get totem-xine, some codecs, and that mozpluggerrc file and you can embed anything in firefox :)02:20
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ChoubakaNOO. Now I lost one machine :((02:20
stasif you like I can send you my cedega02:20
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Xgatesthoreauputic: yeah02:20
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Xgatesok DVD time BOYS02:21
MistaEDcedega is really giving me the shits, is it even possible for it to run in an amd64 environment?02:21
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Xgatesman this is GREAT finally compiling the kernel and getting it to work BUT I found one bug in it:02:22
Xgates No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.02:22
XgatesLOL02:22
UbuWucan anybody help? can't get any sound in flightgear02:22
XgatesI have all the kernel mod options compiled and --> lsmod shows my mods loaded02:22
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Xgateshmm oh well02:22
liableXgates: thats not a bug02:23
MistaEDi've read all the forums in ubuntu about cedegra02:23
MistaEDtried them all, they all don't work02:23
lunitikXgates: good job... cookie? ;)02:23
liableXgates: you have modules?02:23
Xgatesliable: so what is it then, my modules are loaded02:23
mishofSeamusLP, thanks :)02:23
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Xgatesxgates@ubuntu:~$ lsmod02:23
XgatesModule                  Size  Used by02:23
Xgatesudf                    76292  102:23
Xgatesnls_base                4608  1 udf02:23
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Xgatesjust a few here with out whiping out the place in a flood02:24
Xgateshehe02:24
MistaEDwine can't find its own libs :(02:24
user_Hi. Can someone help me with getting links2 -g working under Hoary?02:24
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MistaEDi'm in a chroot 32-bit environment02:24
Xgateslunitik: :-)02:24
Choubaka:(((02:24
MistaEDafter i tried making it look into lib32 but failed02:24
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GurumIs some sort of framebuffer already setup under Hoary?02:24
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frankMistaED: cedega works fine in my chroot02:24
GurumI tried links2 -g -driver fb but it says can't find /dev/fb002:25
Xgatesliable: yes I have mods, and the kernel options are in ther for it02:25
MistaEDi keep getting error=2102:25
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MistaEDall the damn time02:25
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Xgates# Loadable module support02:25
Xgates#02:25
XgatesCONFIG_MODULES=y02:25
XgatesCONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y02:25
XgatesCONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y02:25
XgatesCONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y02:25
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frankMistaED: do you have prelink running?02:25
XgatesCONFIG_KMOD=y02:25
MistaEDwhat is prelink?02:25
Gurumanyone? frame buffer under Hoary?02:26
mutekhellohello02:26
rrfshhi Xgates  can u help me please?02:26
frankcheck if you have it:   locate prelink02:26
Speedy2Hey all.  Apparently my SCSI card, while supported by the kernel, doesn't have a module in Kubuntu or Ubuntu.  I don't have a Linux machine here to build the module -- suggestions?02:26
Xgatesliable: so if I have the Loadable module support compiled in then why is is saying that in /var/log/messages?02:26
Xgatesrrfsh: what's up I'm almost out?02:26
frankMistaED: if you do you have you have to diable it02:26
lunitikMistaED: basically allows applications to remember what libraries it needs, usually results in better load times02:27
MistaEDi don't have it02:27
GurumI trashed my Xserver settings, and trying to figure out how to fix it, using links...but text browser sucks so trying to get links2 -g working..but no framebuffer ;(02:27
rrfshi have a problem with internet connection02:27
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MistaEDnot in my chroot 32-bit that is02:27
rrfshxgates i have a nokia 663002:27
frankMistaED: what about outside?02:27
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lunitikfrank: surely it would be better to 'dpkg -l prelink' to see if he has it... locate is daily, so any applications installed today wouldn't show up...02:28
rrfshand i want to connect to the internet with bluetooth02:28
MistaEDyes i do02:28
lunitik(enless you run 'sudo updatedb'02:28
franklunitink: youre rigth02:28
mishofSeamusLP, that totaly works, awsome :)02:28
MistaEDjust the openoffice prelink or something02:28
rrfshi have installed kppp, but i doesn't work02:28
frankMistaED: ok you have to disable it in the config file02:28
liableXgates: I have compiled a few kernels and I always get the 'no modules loaded' message, but they always load, and have no probs, maybe an initrd thing or something, I dunno, as long as it works who cares02:29
liableXgates: its not a bug though02:29
frankMistaED: probably in /etc/prelink02:29
Xgatesliable: yea I'm just picky, as a Slacker my box was always squeaky clean :-)02:29
Somebody_Okay, I'm a bit sure about this permission thing. Would it be unsafe to: chown nobody:nogroup /var/www?02:29
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Xgatesliable: so why it do that if not a bug02:29
SeamusLPmishof:  Awesome, glad it's working02:29
liablebah slackware02:30
XgatesSAY anyone know I cant remember is Bluetooth support in 2.6x?02:30
XgatesI forgot?02:30
Speedy2Do people from Cannonical / Ubuntu actually come in here02:30
Speedy2Xgates: Yes, it does have Bluetooth support02:30
Xgatesliable: Slack is great if you know what your doing and I can run it great :-)02:30
MistaEDit's just an oooprelink02:30
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XgatesI can compile anything under the sun, but that took me a few years of doing to be able to accomplish that02:31
Xgateshehe02:31
XgatesSpeedy2: does Ubuntu have it compiled in?02:31
liableXgates: go for debian then02:31
Speedy2Xgates: I don't know.02:31
Xgatesprobably02:31
Xgatesk02:31
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Speedy2Xgates: I especially don't know, because I can't try it out because they've left out support for my (popular) SCSI card.02:31
Xgatesrrfsh: sorry I'm not one for bluetooth I have not done bluetooth in Linux, IF you get no help here, then use "GOOGLE" and you might find help on setting it up02:32
XgatesSpeedy2: :/02:32
MistaEDprelink is not installed02:32
Xgateswell boys off the the DVD02:33
MistaEDit's just for openoffice, and i don't really want to break oo02:33
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liablelastlog rrfsh02:34
rrfsh?02:34
rrfshliable?02:35
MistaEDjust realised i've been trying to figure out how to get cedega to work for over 4 hours02:35
liablerrfsh: soory forgot the /02:35
frankMistaED: http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1325   for me the error 21 was caused by prelink02:35
rrfshnobody know how i can fix internet connection with phone via bluetoth, please?02:37
Speedy2rrfsh: This is probably not a Ubuntu specific problem.  Just asking, have you tried searching elsewhere for this information?02:38
eaonhello boys02:39
rrfshspeedy2, i have installed kppp and easy gprs connect02:39
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eaoni'm on a powerbook here with the livecd02:40
rrfshand no one work02:40
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eaonhow would i go to use the second mouse button without an external mouse?02:40
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eaonfn, command, alt and ctrl don't work in combination with a click02:40
eaonwould it work at all?02:40
eaoneh, does it work at all02:41
XgatesCRAP some much BS services running in Ubuntu I cant watch the DVD need to kill services02:41
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Xgatessome/so .....02:41
rrfshspeedy2 the kppp says that pppd deamon died unexpectedly02:41
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vardhanHi. Will prelink help on ubuntu ?02:41
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tomekhi - trying to install vsftpd - which has an ubuntu icon, so seems to be a distro part, I'm getting the warning about not authenticated package - why ?02:41
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MistaEDnope, i have none of those problems02:42
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Alch_the_Estwhois Alch_the_Est02:42
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frankMistaED:  I'm not sure what to do.   What is your exact error message>02:43
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MistaED"/usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine: can't exec 'CoDUOMP.exe': error=21"02:44
smoseranyone know why esddsp (and mpg321, which used to use esd by default) would stop working for me?02:45
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smosernow they act as if they can't find an esd server (which is running)02:45
frank'CoDUOMP.exe'  are you sure this is supposed to work?02:45
MistaEDplain old wine gives me this:02:45
MistaED./wine: error while loading shared libraries: libntdll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:45
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Coilywhat decides which menu.list is used for bootup (i have two ubuntu installations and id like to use a different menu.list)?02:46
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MistaEDit's call of duty united offensive, thought i'd give it a simple ID engine to try out02:46
smoserCoily, whichever one got installed onto the MBR02:46
smoserprobably whoever ran 'grub-install /dev/hda' last02:46
Coilysmoser, you're correct, but id like to know how to change that02:46
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Coilysmoser, id like to use my old menu.list02:47
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smoserre-run grub-install /dev/hda from the one you want02:47
frankMistaED: did you install wine  with the apt-get/synaptic in the chroot?02:47
eaonso i presume, using right mouse button with just one mouse button (like on os x) is impossible?02:47
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frankMistaED: although I don't think you even need wine for cedega02:47
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Coilysmoser, i have 2 hard drives, im assuming grub will always install to hda (because the mbr is always stored there?)02:48
smoserit'll install wherever you want it to. but probably the ubuntu installer installs to MBR of hda02:49
smoser'grub-install /dev/hda'02:49
Coilygotcha02:49
CarlKthe important part is where will your system boot from02:49
Coilythank you for your help02:49
MistaEDnope, didn't install any form of wine02:50
CoilyCarlK, well, the mbr of my first hdd it appears02:50
MistaEDjust cedega02:50
Pierre|Unkis there any way to force a CD to boot?02:50
cuscohow do I make sshd server listen on a diferent port02:50
cuscolike 2502:50
BurgundaviaPierre|Unk, disable the hdd in the bios02:50
cuscoplease02:50
CarlKmy stupid HP keeps track of drive model# and will boot from the same disk even if I make it hdd02:50
Pierre|Unktried that but it wont boot anyway02:50
smoserno one else recently started having problems with esd ?02:50
ac-idsshd -p02:50
Pierre|Unkonly CD's that it lets to boot is windows XP and Windows 9802:50
CarlKPierre|Unk - SBM... link comming...02:50
Pierre|Unkand ive tried the CD's on my other computer so its nothing wrong with the CDs02:51
Pierre|Unkanother bad thing dont have a floppy02:51
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cuscoac-id: like that i conect on a diferent port02:51
danthemanhas anyone here gotten dual monitors working with an nvidia card?02:51
cuscoI mean Listening02:51
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CarlKPierre|Unk http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SmartBootManagerHowto02:52
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CarlKPierre|Unk - no floppy.. just a sec...02:52
Coilyis it possible to kill a hdd dead by editing the mbr? or would it still be possible to run a recover cd and manually edit the mbr? also, would you need a backup of the mbr, in order to get everything working again?02:53
danthemani've installed the nvidia-glx driver, and nvidia-kernel-common, but i have no idea how to edit the xorg.conf file to get twinview to work02:53
cens0redexcuse me, according to http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver there should be a utility in Applications->System Tools called MenuEditor. But there isn't. What should I do?02:53
Coilydantheman, ubuntuguide.org tells you how02:53
CarlKyou don't need a backup of the mbr -you can put a new one on as long as the partition table is still ok02:54
CoilyCarlK, but if your partition table got messed with, youd be looking at unrecoverable dataloss?02:54
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rizlahi02:55
rizlai have this problem:02:55
rizladcgui-qt: Dipende: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.3-3) ma non  installabile02:55
rizlawhat do i have to do?02:56
Coilyrizla, google for the lib package and manually install it02:56
liableCoily: you have two hdd with diff ubuntus on them02:56
liable?02:56
rizlaok Coily , thanx02:56
Xapperizla: you'll be better off compiling dcgui-qt yourself, the ione in the repos are way too old02:56
Coilyliable, well two hdd, but one is for xp the other for the 2 ubuntus02:57
danthemani did what ubuntuguide told me, and i'm still staring at a measley one monitor02:57
Coilyand the mbr im booting from is located on my xp hdd02:57
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danthemanhold on a minute...i gotta restart X02:57
liableCoily: and you want to do what02:57
rizlaok Xappe02:57
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Coilywell, im currently booting from one of the ubuntu install's menu.list, but i want to boot from the other ubuntu install02:58
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Xapperizla: I can also recommend http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de02:58
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Xapperizla: that's what i'm using02:58
Coilythis all came about because i deleted one of my ubuntu partitions, only to find that it was my root file system :x02:58
rizlaok, i'll try it02:59
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tleT_T02:59
liableCoily: so run grub and change the partiton it runs from02:59
tlecan some1 here help me out on making my i810 + my monitor work at 1024x768?02:59
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bogusXappe> is it better than valknut?02:59
CarlKtle - worked for me out of the box02:59
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\shmorning03:00
Coilyim assuming that would be 'grub-install /dev/hda' hda being the xp hdd whose mbr im using03:00
bretzelGood morning all ! :-)03:00
Xappebogus: i guess that's a matter of taste, I hate the dcgui-qt user interface...it's so annoying03:00
rizlaxappe, how can i install linuxdc++ from http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de?03:00
bogusindeed it is :)03:01
liableCoily: hmm, when you boot to ubuntu is it hda03:01
liableCoily: and id wnblows hdb03:01
Xapperizla: by cvs03:01
bretzelSilly Question: how-to show windows from all desktops in the taskbar ( gnome ) -- sh*&^ I really can't remeber where to set this option!03:01
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Coilyliable, no xp is on hda and the ubuntu installs are on hdb, im currently using the mbr from hda to boot03:01
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compoundatomhi03:02
cens0redexcuse me, according to http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver there should be a utility in Applications->System Tools called MenuEditor. But there isn't. What should I do?03:02
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liableCoily: so you boot to ubuntu from hda03:02
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Coilyliable, yup03:02
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compoundatomwould anyone here know about the status of vendor supplied linux notebooks/laptops? i know hp was (is?) doing one.03:03
liableCoily: and the ubuntu partition you want to boot to is what03:03
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Coilyliable, hdb503:03
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CarlKPierre|Unk - no floppy http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html03:04
jkkahttp://users.evtek.fi/~jukkash/wine_ie6.png03:04
Pierre|UnkThanks CarlK03:04
jkkamy new default browser :)03:04
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CarlKyou're welcome03:04
liableCoily: you are in ubuntu now?03:04
N00BHello03:04
cens0redjkka ah you got IE working in wine? I've done that before.03:05
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Coilyliable, yes. im using the ubuntu install which has the menu.list i want to use03:05
N00Bis it possble to had some programs to ubuntu Live cd?03:05
liableCoily:type  'grub'03:05
jkkayes, used the http://www.von-thadden.de/Joachim/WineTools/#intro script03:05
jkkaworked fine, im using hoary03:05
Coilyliable, and?03:05
snowblinkbretzel, click on the panel applet for your windows listing, then preferences03:05
raydogg_jkka, why are u using IE ?03:06
raydogg_jkka, requirement or something ?03:06
jkkaheh, im not REALLY using it as default browser03:06
Pierre|Unkis there some way to make a particion for ubutu before installing it(from windows)?03:06
liableCoily: root (hd1,4)03:06
jkkabut its good to have because some things requires ie03:06
raydogg_just making sure :-)03:06
raydogg_yeah03:06
snowblinkPierre|Unk, Partition Magic03:06
Pierre|Unkjust so if it gets fecked up i just delete and so...03:06
raydogg_luckily nothing i Use does :-)03:06
Pierre|Unkwich one is it i should choose snowblink?03:07
cens0redI used IE in linux for viewing a site I put up. But prefer ff anyway.03:07
AmaranthPierre|Unk: You can use something like Partition Magic to resize your windows partitions to make room for Ubuntu.03:07
AmaranthPierre|Unk: Use the ubuntu installer to make the partitions in that free space.03:07
locomortoPierre|Unk get system rescue cd, burn it, run it and then run qt_parted03:07
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N00BCan someone tell me if it's possible to had some programs to Ubuntu live cd?03:08
snowblinkPierre|Unk, I believe Ubuntu can repartition NTFS partitions. Best to backup your data and defrag anyway03:08
Coilyliable, how should that look exactly? >grub, >root (hd1,4) or 'grub (hd1,4)?03:08
BurgundaviaN00B, there is a live cd customizer03:08
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Coilyer i meant on the 2nd one: 'grub root (hd1,4)'03:09
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liableCoily: once you have typed grub you will get > then type 'root (hd1,4) 1 being your b drive, 4 being your 5th partition03:09
N00BBurgundavia, thx i can find it on ubuntu site i guess, but can i add what i want?03:09
BurgundaviaN00B, pretty much the space is maxed out, but there are things you can remove03:10
Coilyliable, gotcha. luckily i happened to know the starting from 0 thing :P03:10
liableheh03:10
N00Bthe program i want add is only few Ko heavy03:10
Coilyliable, thanks for your help03:11
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liableCoily: then 'setup (hd1)03:11
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Coilyliable, what does setup (hd1) do?03:11
cens0redexcuse me, according to http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver there should be a utility in Applications->System Tools called MenuEditor. But there isn't. What should I do?03:12
MistaEDmight give ubuntu a reset03:12
Choubakacens0red: install it.03:12
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Choubakayou can find it in the package repositories.03:12
Choubakause search .)03:12
liableCoily: actually you may disregard that if you are booting from hda :)03:13
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tlethe bug #5197 is bugging me so much, has any1 encountered this bug?03:13
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cens0redChoubaka $ apt-cache search menueditor returns no results03:13
bleezyHello03:13
Choubakatry menu editor :p03:13
cens0rednor does $ apt-cache search menu-editor03:13
tlethe bug #5197 is bugging me so much, has any1 encountered this bug?03:13
Coilyliable, er well what wouldve setup (hd1) have done?03:13
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Choubakahmm.03:13
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N00BBurgundavia, do you know where to find the Live cd customizer?03:14
ChoubakaI wonder if it's in the repositories after all03:14
bleezyAnyone help me with installing java ??03:14
BurgundaviaN00B, dig around the wiki03:14
Choubakacens0red: search the forums for it.03:14
N00Bk03:14
Choubakathere's a thread.03:14
BurgundaviaChoubaka, no menu editor in the wiki03:14
BurgundaviaChoubaka, s/wiki/repos03:14
Choubakathen it was on the forums :/03:14
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bleezylast time i did it i cut and pasted a web page but cant find it03:14
Burgundaviableezy, www.ubuntuguide.org03:14
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liableCoily: put it in yur hda mbr me thinks03:15
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bleezydamn this pc is slow03:15
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larsrohdinHI, i get this error message when opening a folder in Rox: Failed to create symlink '/home/larsrohdin/.icons/ROX':03:16
larsrohdinFile exists03:16
cens0redChoubaka is there a single file that menueditor actually edits? I don't mind going in there with nano and editing it manually.03:16
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liableCoily: s/hda/hdb03:16
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larsrohdinsomeone told me to just delete the file, and it worked for a while, then it started again...03:16
Choubakacens0red: I don't think it's a single file.03:16
Coilyliable, well that is what i want to do. but youre saying the command would be redundant?03:16
nachtwindhi, is there someone who might tell me something about a SAMBA PDC?03:16
Choubakaso better go with a menu editorl.03:16
Choubaka-ll03:16
Choubaka+l :p03:16
liableCoily: well run that command, yes03:17
Coilyliable, but you just said not to!03:17
N00BHi for those who were searching like me how to customize your live cd the is an url: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo03:17
cens0redhttp://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=531407 there's about 203 threads which contain "menu editor", all of which may or may not contain info relevant to my question.03:17
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bleezythis imac is retarted i think a 386 run faster03:17
N00Bthx Burgundavia03:18
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Burgundaviacens0red, look in 3rd party projects03:18
liableCoily: no do it, if you are booting from hda, dont mind me, short attention span03:18
Burgundaviacens0red, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=6703:19
frankanybody else have problems creating new users?  I create them but can't login as the new user03:19
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bleezythose instructions for java install didnt work for me :(03:20
cens0redBurgundavia thanks for your help. The link is broken though.03:20
Coilyliable, why would using hd1 install it to hda? wouldnt i want to use hd0?03:20
cens0redhttp://dev.realistanew.com/menu-editor/menueditor_0.1-1_i386.deb03:20
crypticreign[w] hmm, i wonder if there is a way to have xhcat show the channel listings on two rows03:20
Burgundaviacens0red, hmm03:21
liableCoily: you are right, yes hd0 is what you want03:21
frankcensored: I'm sending it to you03:21
Coilyliable, ok glad i asked...03:21
bretzelsnowblink: :-) Hi there :-)  -- I said it was a silly question: In fact, I was unable to find that little area to right-click and get the preferences... ( I was AFK sorry for my late reply ) Thus, Thank you kind friend :-)03:21
liableCoily: yes, one too many beers gere :)03:21
bleezyanyone know easy way to install java ??03:22
liablehere even03:22
crypticreign[w] bleezy: yes, its on ubuntuguide.org03:22
Coilyliable, its ok. thank you for your help03:22
bleezythat didnt work03:22
liableCoily: dont thank me yet :)03:22
cens0redfrank and Burgundavia thanks.03:23
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franknp03:23
Coily:O03:23
Burgundaviacens0red, np03:23
bleezyWhat do I do if that doesnt work03:24
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bleezyi getno such fil or directory03:24
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crypticreign[w] bleezy: it doesnt work?  er, i've done it several times.. at work we have a tricky java app thats very picky and it works fine03:25
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Coilyliable, im wondering if the setup command is necessary, wouldnt grub already be installed to the ubuntu install (there's already a /boot/grub and it has the menu.list alreayd config'd to what i want)?03:28
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larsrohdincan someone help me with this: i get this error message from ROX-filer all the time... Failed to create symlink '/home/larsrohdin/.icons/ROX':03:29
larsrohdinFile exists03:29
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Coilyliable, actually i got stuck on that hd1 thing... what i meant was wouldnt grub already be installed to the mbr?03:29
Coilylarsrohdin, just delete the fiel and try making the link again03:29
Coilyfile03:29
larsrohdinCoily, ive tried deleting it, but it comes back the next time i open e.g. my home directory03:30
Pierre|Unkhmm03:30
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Pierre|Unki have problems using rawwrite to write a boot disk03:30
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Pierre|Unki can format the floppy and rawwrite says it successfully installed the stuff on my floppy but when i check it its empty03:31
Pierre|Unktry with some other floppy or just skip it? :P03:31
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Coilylarsrohdin, thats all ive got...03:31
bleezycrypticreign[w] ,  failed again03:31
downpourwhats a floppy? =P03:31
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larsrohdinaaarrggg.... does anyone know a good substitute for ROX-filer?03:32
downpourlarsrohdin why not just use nautilus?03:32
larsrohdindownpour, im not using gnome03:32
downpourso use nautilus --no-desktop03:32
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downpouru don't have gnome installed?03:32
cens0redthanx. Appear to have nvidia drivers set up now.03:32
crypticreign[w] bleezy: odd03:33
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larsrohdindownpour, yes i have, but im using fluxbox03:33
liableCoily: yes but grub is pointing to the wrong partition in the mbr, i believe you need to point it at the right partition03:33
bleezyi get authent failed03:33
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crypticreign[w] larsrohdin: thunar.. not released yet tho :)03:33
cens0redhey are the glx drivers for ubuntu proper nvidia drivers with 3d?03:33
downpourlarsrohdin so just use nautilus --no-desktop03:33
larsrohdincrypticreign[w] , doesn't help me then03:33
MyKq3i don't want to b roud or any thingy but can some one expline me how come UbuntuLinux konws how to handel multiCPU MB but can't automount partions... =\03:33
crypticreign[w] larsrohdin: heh.. i know03:33
cens0redI assume they would be, I got the nvidia splash screen when I booted up.03:34
bleezyGnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:03:34
bleezyAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.03:34
larsrohdindownpour, you mean to put it in the .xsession and that?03:34
frankcens0red, they are03:34
downpourlarsrohdin just run it from the menu with that command03:34
downpouri believe its that command anyway03:34
Coilyhow do i change the location of the root fs, i have 2 ubuntu installs and i want to use the other ubuntu install to boot03:35
larsrohdinyeah ok... but i still have the problems with the icons...03:35
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downpourCoily /etc/fstab03:35
frankcens0red, you need to install them in the chroot separately to get cedega to use them as well03:35
cens0redfrank excellent. thanx.03:35
cens0redfrank what is cedega?03:35
bleezyjre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin: line 262: ./install.sfx.8297: cannot execute binary file03:35
bleezywhy does this happen03:35
frankcens0red, sorry I though you were someone else03:36
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cens0rednp.03:36
frankcens0red, Cedega is a program to run windows games03:36
liableCoily: try 'grub-update'03:36
cikilincan anybody show me how to write a cd data with gnomebaker?03:36
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larsrohdindownpour, i have the same problem with nautilus... i get only blank icons and stuff...03:36
downpourlarsrohdin just rm -rf .icons perhaps03:36
Ubuntu-n00bAnyone good on Xorg problems?  I'm stuck at 640x480@60hz and dpkg-reconfigure didn't help.03:37
Coilyliable, instead of setup?03:37
downpourUbuntu-n00b run xorgconfig03:37
larsrohdindownpour, what does that do?03:37
downpouras root03:37
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Coilydownpour, you misread my question03:38
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downpourCoily eh?03:38
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larsrohdindownpour, didn't help03:38
Ubuntu-n00bThe bizzarre thing is that the LiveCD worked almost perfectly.  The only problem I had was the bit depth which was easily corrected.  Now that I've done a genuine install, I'm having this problem.03:38
Coilydownpour, i want to change which ubuntu install the mbr uses to boot03:38
downpourCoily you mean which partition?03:39
Coilydownpour, correct03:39
downpourlarsrohdin are you running it from a terminal..errors?03:39
cens0red<frank> cens0red, Cedega is a program to run windows games03:39
cens0rednever heard of it. Is that like WineX ?03:39
liableCoily: just do as i said, its always fixable, 'grub'    'root (hd0,4)'     'setup (hd0)'03:39
slask3ncens0red: it is WineX03:39
cens0redsladen open source cedega?03:40
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cens0redslask3n ok.03:40
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slask3ncens0red: visit http://www.transgaming.com and read more...03:40
larsrohdindownpour, no errors... nothing happens...03:40
downpourliable if he wants to use a different partition he has to edit /etc/fstab03:40
Coilyliable, the problem is i wouldnt know how to fix it =[03:40
downpourlarsrohdin you get no icons?03:40
liabledownpour: grub doesnt even know what fstab is03:40
bleezyhow do i run a rpm file here ?03:40
Coilyya thats what i was wondering03:41
downpourliable edit it by hand03:41
bleezywell under this distro03:41
Coilydownpour, edit what by hand?03:41
liabledownpour: fstab gets read once the kernel is loaded03:41
larsrohdindownpour, i have icons but they are ugly... just whit... or in the ROX-filer they are questionmarks...03:41
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da_bon_bonhey anyone from mumbai, india out here having the ubuntu cds ? i'd like to buy them...03:42
Coilyliable, which would be a little late :O03:42
downpourliable I've done this before i make a backup partition of one install then another install with reiser4 and just edit /etc/fstab03:42
bleezyhow do I install Limewire.rpm ??03:43
Coilydownpour, doesnt that mean youre using the old partition's kernel to access the new partition's files?03:43
downpourunless im not understanding what Coily is trying to do03:43
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Ubuntu-n00bMy choices  made the x-server cough up a cow.03:44
downpourCoily nah i make an archive of my backup then unpack it to my reiser4 install03:44
liabledownpour: ok, but we are talking about grub here, all it does is look in the right spot for a vmlinuz image03:44
downpouryeah03:44
downpourmaybe I'm not sure how ubuntu sets things up this is my first time using it03:44
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downpouri always have my /boot on a seperate partition03:44
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windithere is no reason really to have it on a separate partition, unless your bios can't map that far03:45
larsrohdindownpour, out of ideas?03:45
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Coilydownpour, er ya grub is installed with ubuntu's partition ='[03:45
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downpouri usually setup hda1,2,3,5,6,7,8,903:45
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Coilyi wouldnt have this damn problem if it was on a different partition....03:45
downpourah03:45
downpourrun grub03:46
keffohmm, this is really odd.. never had this problem before, i sit and do nothing.. just surfing around.. suddenly everything starts to lag and xorg takes about 70-80% of my memory.. and i cant do anything, sap between windows or anything03:46
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keffowtf.03:46
downpourroot (hd0,whatever)03:46
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downpoursetup (hd0)03:46
Remenicwhen I try to play a sound with rhytmbox, I get "Could not open resource for writing.". The Ubuntu Device database can't play any sound either, but mplayer on the other hand plays sound just fine... anyone what could be wrong?03:46
downpourquit03:46
St0n3-C0lI've two questions 1) Can we use Kmenueditor for GNOME's menu editing 2) where I can find gdesklets things like I can find files for SuperKaramba in www.kde-look.org03:46
bleezy LimeWireLinux.rpm      how do i install this ??/03:46
Remenicanyone know*03:46
Coilydownpour, yay liable said the same thing! i hope youre both right03:46
downpourlol03:46
pmaihow too restart X ?03:47
pmaito03:47
downpourbleezy perhaps install rpm2tgz03:47
Ubuntu-n00bbleezy Have you tried rpm -i <filename>?03:47
downpourlimewire also requires java afaik03:47
St0n3-C0lUbuntu-n00b: It'll surely give errors of Dependencies03:48
jovianpmai, ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x03:48
liablepmai: ctl + alt + back03:48
Ubuntu-n00bYes it does.  Is it not installed by default?  I haven't gotten the far. :\03:48
bleezyUbuntu-n00b,   yes said use alien03:48
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larsrohdindownpour, help? this all started when i upgraded to hoary...03:48
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joviandoes anyone else have bad memory leaks in ubuntu in general usage03:49
linuxn00bHi. Has anyone got Ati 9X00 working with Hoary?03:49
linuxn00bKinda wasted three hours trying to get it to work using various HOWTO's on the forum..03:49
downpourlarsrohdin running grub didn't work? you also have to edit the grub config in /boot/grub03:49
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jovianIm using linux686 kernel thats provided by ubuntu03:49
larsrohdindownpour, i was the one with weird icons...03:50
GurumSome screen savers seem to crash Xserver completely (with no way to get out of it) and thought it might be the video card driver..03:50
downpouroh lol03:50
larsrohdin=)03:50
downpourgot confused03:50
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downpourerm03:50
larsrohdinno problem, i see you have a lot to do03:50
downpournah03:50
downpourhrmmm03:50
Gurumomniscient, can you please tell this Ubuntu n00b how to get his ATI card working with hardware 3d?03:50
jovianI had the same problem with  warty as well03:50
liableGurum: buy another card :)03:51
downpourdo you have an icon theme seleted in the gnome theme config03:51
St0n3-C0lCan we use Kmenueditor for gnome ;)03:51
omniscientGurum, apt-cache search ati03:51
omniscient?03:51
Gurumliable? another card? It works perfectly with Knoppix with default driver...with 3d enabled..03:51
St0n3-C0ldid anyone tried.03:51
omniscienttheres some apps related to ati there03:51
omniscientim pretty sure03:51
downpourim not really a gnome person been using flux for the past 6 years heh03:51
Gurumglrx or whatever doesn't seem to load, and defaults to Mesa..03:52
liableGurum: well load the driver that knoppix uses then03:52
larsrohdindownpour, me too03:52
Ubuntu-n00bI don't have an ATI card...  Oh wait, maybe I should change my nick. ;)03:52
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Gurumflux.. yuck... I would understand people at least using Xfce..but blackbox/flux  (shudders).03:52
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tapiahi03:52
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tapiaI get this when doing a "apt-get update":03:52
downpourGurum whats wrong wit the boxes they are nice and small ;] 03:52
tapiaW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B503:52
tapiaW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems03:52
tapiahow can I fix it?03:52
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rijihmm does anyone here know how to resume a download with wget?03:53
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riji(it got abborted by a forced reboot03:53
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queuetueDoes anyone use a sales tracking and workflow system?  Something that can be set up to automatically notify salespeople or send out reminder letters to customers and propects?03:53
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tapiariji: wget -c03:53
Gurumso I got my printer, digital camera, java, Palm tungsten t3 working.. after 12 hours..03:53
deFryskanyone knows why the pc reboots after attemping to boot into xp with grub ?03:53
Gurumkinda sad.03:53
pmaithank03:53
Gurumdoes anyone know how to force fsck check on all disks during boot?03:54
downpourdeFrysk cuz xp is crap =P03:54
deFryskdownclimb, true03:54
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deFrysk;p03:54
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ddol526hello?03:54
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ddol526anybody there?03:54
ddol526?03:54
rijithc tapia03:54
snowblinkddol526, just us chickens03:54
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downpourGurum there is an option for this somewhere in /etc forget which file it is03:54
liableCoily: hows it all goin03:55
downpourGurum google is your friend =P03:55
ddol526wow;;; this is first time using irc;;;03:55
Gurumdownpour, I know..but this time he wasn't much of help..03:55
downpourheh03:55
Gurumalso, he wasn't much of help with getting links2 -g working under Hoary..03:55
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Coilyliable, im not gonna do it till i reboot but ill let you know03:56
SeamusLPHey anyone know what repository w32codecs is in?03:56
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downpourGurum http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html03:59
Gurumdownpour thanks..03:59
downpouri believe you can do this in /etc/fstab03:59
downpourjust set the fsck flag03:59
chazwurthSeamusLP: I got it from Marillat I believe03:59
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BurgundaviaSeamusLP, marilliar03:59
Gurumdoes anyone know how fault tolerant ext2 is?04:00
Gurumlet say power just dies, etc...04:00
downpourheh04:00
GurumIn the past I have thrashed linux/Win NT systems bec. of this..04:00
downpourjust stick with ext3 its the defacto these days04:00
downpourand stable04:01
Gurumoh.. my bad.. using ext3...04:01
Gurumso will ext3 survive random crashes?04:01
SeamusLPGurum, ext3 is solid04:01
downpourGurum whos to say...but its the most stable fs04:01
Gurumalso does anyone know of some sort of disk compression program like NTFS with compression turned on?04:01
GurumI cringe everytime I have to hard reset my computer.. :D04:02
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Gurumbec. I don't backup my computer....04:02
chazwurthGurum: Maybe you should start doing regular backups :P04:02
SeamusLPI usually don't have to hard reset04:02
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SeamusLPThe worse I've had to do is kill x04:02
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Gurumchazwurth, easy to backup 30 gig partition?04:03
Coilyi have 2 free space partitions, a 20gb once which is part of an extended partition and a 50gb partition when has never been formatted. how do i 'merge' this free space?04:03
Coilyerr once=one04:03
downpourCoily you can try install qtparted04:03
GurumCoily, in Windows, you could use Partition Magic..04:03
downpouri believe is the name04:03
chazwurthGurum: Hard drives are cheap. If you can, buy or save up for another drive to use for backups.04:03
liableCoily: did you fix the grub thing or not04:04
sic|workGood morning, two issues...warty...#1. will not start gdm automatically on boot, only goes to command prompt login. #2. will not keep resolution, resets every time I reboot.  Any solutions?04:04
Coilyliable, i still havent rebooted04:04
Gurumi c... anyone using software RAID 1?04:04
liablebah04:04
SeamusLPGurum:  I backup to DVD04:04
GurumI have three hard drives (80 gig, 160 gig, 250 gig)..04:04
Coily=[04:04
downpourCoily qtparted http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/04:04
chazwurthGurum: I'm not, but I probably should be, heh.04:04
bretzelHey, I am reading this conversation: I wonder if I made a mistake to try XFS as my "/" filesystem ... ?04:04
Gurumsic, i had that problem, I just reinstalled gdm...04:04
BurgundaviaCoily, gparted is in the repos04:04
sic|workgurum: I tried that...it didn't work04:04
Coilyas for the free space thing... theres no downside to having one partition split into 2 sectors on my hdd?04:05
Coilyi have qtprted installed, actually04:05
Gurumsic, completely remove gdm, and then reinstall....04:05
sic|worktried that too04:05
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Chipparni need help with mounting ntfs partition.. i got a 160 gb Sata disk formated in ntfs that i want to mount. is there a mounting tool in ubuntu that i dont know about? i have tried mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/ that works but i cant get access to the /mnt/ folder04:05
Gurumsic, then look at your init files....04:05
da_bon_bonhey anyone from mumbai, india out here having the ubuntu cds ? i'd like to buy them...04:05
Gurumcan you kill gdm and restart gdm as root?04:05
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sic|workyes04:05
liableCoily: use qparted, just make sure the partition that you are using isnt actually mounted at the time04:05
CoilyChipparn, you must add it to fstab then mount -a04:06
b_e_n_zChipparn, man mount and check the dmask option04:06
GurumChipparn, do you own the folder? chown maybe? (another problem I encountered lately)04:06
GurumChipparn, unofficial ubuntu howto has excellent guide on auto mounting partitions..04:06
Chipparnok thanks04:06
Gurumhttp://ubuntuguide.org/04:07
liables/using/partitioning04:07
bretzelda_bon_bon: buy it? go to the ubuntulinux.org and then find the link to the "shiptit" it is sent free of charge! ( register, enter your mail address ...04:07
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sic|workchipparn this is how I mount mine in fstab: /dev/hda1       /home/administrator/winxp      ntfs    ro,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 004:07
bretzelor -- is it still available ( regarding hoary ) ? -- asking04:07
Coilyliable, i have qtparted running but i cant do anything with the freespace partitions04:08
N00Bcan i install every debian package on ubuntu?04:08
GurumCoily, I didn't have too good experience with qtparted.. I recommend partition magic..04:08
Gurumit can do amazing things..04:08
da_bon_bonbretzel: ya, but india is on their "secondary lists" it seems - i recd the warty cds on 29th december. and i cant wait that late for hoary04:08
Chipparnsic|work thanks04:08
CoilyGurum, once i get it installed, what will i do next04:08
sic|worknp...I got that from the unbuntu guide04:09
Funraisercould someone explain me how to have an RSS feed directly on the desktop? I busy on my studies so if someone could explain me that i would save some time...04:09
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liableCoily: what does it say04:09
Funraiserplease04:09
GurumCoily, the program is realy easy to use.. no need to read manuals..04:09
downpourFunraiser gdesklets or adesklets can do this04:09
Coilyliable, well everything is greyed out for both partitions, and i dont see anything in the menu which would pertain to what im tryinf to do04:09
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bretzel:-) -- I did order warthy ( 5 cd's ) and I recieved it 5-6 week after :-) Thus I didn't tried for hoary yet ... ( I am in Montreal, Canada)04:09
Gurumyou would want to combine partitions.. but it would only work if two partitions are next to each other..04:09
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jaimorning04:10
CoilyGurum, thats the problem. theyre not04:10
N00BHI, Do you know if we can install any debian package on ubuntu?04:10
GurumCoil, what's your partition configuration right now?04:10
Gurumn00b, works most of the time..04:10
N00Bthx04:10
liableCoily: these are empty partitions?04:10
jaistupid question: why cant i play MP3.  i have just moved over from XP and im learning04:10
Gurumn00b, i recommend just downloading latest source and compiling them..04:11
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jaii get an error04:11
Sauron21I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I can autostart a program?(something like the "Startup" folder maybe)?04:11
Effiemoin04:11
Coilyliable, yes. one was part of an extended partition, the other has never been formatted04:11
liableCoily: not formatted or mounted?04:11
bretzelda_bon_bon: Regarding hoary, I have burned then installed on all my home computer... I say it is a very good move!04:11
chazwurthjai: There's a package you have to install first. Do you know if you've enabled the universe repository?04:11
Gurumjai, you need to download mp3 decoders... enable universe, multiverse, or whatever repositories..and install mp3 decoders..04:11
Coilyliable, correct04:11
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Gurumbetter yet, just get xmms...will work out of box.04:11
jaiWOW!  over my head.04:11
N00Bok, but i'm really noob it is not too complicated to compile sources for Ubuntu?04:11
jaino i dont know if i have.  how do i enable the universe repository04:12
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GurumSauron, Gnome menu -> system -> xsessions -> look for start up programs.04:12
da_bon_bonbretzel: do NOt make me more miserable than i already am... :( :P04:12
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da_bon_bonif i get the cds now i can keep on updating -* if not, again it will be 300mb to update, and then i wont be able to do it on my 2kbps04:12
chazwurthjai: Take a look at http://www.ubuntuguide.org/04:12
Xgatesman I went off to watch that DVD and here I am been fussing with it ever since04:13
Gurumda_bon, no friend with broadband?04:13
chazwurthjai: Particularly at the section regarding the sources.list file.04:13
CoilyGurum, what command should i use to list the partition table (fdisk -l just shows the formatted partitions)04:13
jaiAwsome...thanks04:13
bretzelda_bon_bon: Why ? what is your connection ? ( dialup, ISDN, broadband ?)04:13
chazwurthjai: There are a lot of other useful tips on that page as well.04:13
Xgatesman I killed almost all the services that you can, then I installed blackbox and got it all done up, and still Xine is jumpy, skipping through the movie04:13
jaii will book mark it04:13
Xgatesanyone else cant get Xine to run smooth04:13
da_bon_bonbretzel: cable - but the connection is slow coz i cant afford higher speed plans04:13
chazwurthjai: And the package you want for mp3 playback is gstreamer0.8-mad04:13
Gurumfdisk?04:14
jaido any of you use Ventrilo for voice04:14
Xgatesman I have never had issues running Xine in Slack04:14
CoilyXgates, how much physical/swap memory do you have04:14
Gurumfdisk /dev/hda(b)(c)(d)04:14
Gurumtype help for help.04:14
Gurumof course, you can use qtparted to look at partitions04:14
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ZotnixHeh04:14
CoilyGurum, but yuo asked me to tell you what they are04:14
Zotnix190 updates... and growing.04:14
XgatesCoily: my memory is not the problem, I've been running Xine in Slackware 5 years SMOOTH as a babies ASS04:14
bretzelda_bon_bon: I think 128kbits/s can be ok if you're patient  - then download haory ISO ?04:14
Xgatesnow in Ubuntu it SUCKS04:15
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Gurumxgates, tried Mplayer/Totem?04:15
XgatesI think personally its crappy compiling04:15
XgatesI dont like Mplayer04:15
Gurumxgates, if it really sucks, maybe you can just try mplayer text based.04:15
CoilyXgates, xine runs fine for me so i dont know what to say...04:15
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St0n3-C0lXgates: Totem is fine.04:15
liableCoily: and you cant touch the unformatted one?04:15
da_bon_bonbretzel: it is 2kbps , not 12804:15
ZotnixOr install xine yourself.04:15
Coilyliable, i can not04:15
St0n3-C0lGurum: I've seen MPlayer freezes in GNOME but works perfectly in KDE04:15
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XgatesI want Xine or Ogle I'll try because those 2 will give you a fuller FULL screen, Mplayer doesnt fill the screen all the way full like Xine or Ogle do04:16
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benjawhat is Hoary Sound Media Device.. /dev/dsp ?04:16
GurumCoily, there is Windows PE Iso floating around with good system software like partition magic.. no need to install Windows04:16
liableCoily: hmmm, have a live distro?04:16
chazwurthda_bon_bon: Have you tried different mirrors? Or is that just the speed of your connection?04:16
GurumXgates "mplayer -zoom -fs"04:16
da_bon_bonchazwurth: speed of my connection04:16
bretzelda_bon_bon: You mean 2 kilobytes/sec ? ouch! I agree with you - Then you may go to the shipit and order one ?04:16
chazwurthda_bon_bon: :(04:16
Coilyliable, no, but what do you need me to run?04:16
Gurumseriously, when I was running Pentium II 266, I managed to watch Divx using Mplayer without using Xserer....04:17
Sauron21Has anyone here ever burned a .img file in linux??04:17
da_bon_bonbretzel: i have ordered, but it will take june04:17
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Gurumsauron, have you looked at K3b?04:17
da_bon_bonso i was looking for some fellow indians to buy it from04:17
Sauron21I have....but k3d only burns .iso files....04:17
liableCoily: anything that runs in mem, such as knoppix or system rescue04:17
Funraiserdownpour, do u know how to use gdesklets ?04:18
Coilyliable, i got that part, i mean what do you need me to do from there04:18
GurumCD recording: http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/cdrecording/04:18
Gurumgoogle is your friend :)04:18
XgatesSt0n3-C0l: Totem is just a FE to gstreamer or Xine and since I have Xine and totem-xine if Xine is lagging here then totem will too, its the same04:18
Xgateshehe04:18
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St0n3-C0lXine is laggin ?? strange.04:18
Gurumxgates, what is the spec of your computer?04:18
TinamooHi, I installed ubuntu 5.04 and it hangs in Gdm and won't go further. any clues??04:18
Funraiserdoes someone know how to use gdesklet?04:19
bretzelda_bon_bon: yes, ( can't find english words for " Je sympatise" with you ) :-( So, if it is already ordered, then .... sorry :-(04:19
St0n3-C0luse win32-codecs and check the quality of the disc04:19
Sauron21Gurum: I have been there....hehe....didnt help......04:19
da_bon_bonbretzel: no problemo :)04:19
ZotnixXgates:> Is it that mplayer won't go into full screen (it stays in a small window even when you try full screen)?04:19
jaicant seem to find what you were talking about.  still dont know where to find drivers or whatever it is i need to listen to music04:19
liableCoily: well, if it doesnt run in a live distro, then I have no idea, is a bit strange that you cant touch it if its not mounted04:19
GurumSauron, just an idea.. when I was trying to get MP3s to play on my Pentium 90 computer using 2X CD Drive... I increased xmmms or mp123 buffer to max... mp3's played fine afterwards04:20
Coilyliable, all i need to know is that if merging these two freespace partitions, which are seperated in sector blocks by different partitions, is possible04:20
chazwurthda_bon_bon: Do you know how long it takes to ship to your location using the US postal service, from the US?04:20
bretzelda_bon_bon: I hope you will survive (joke ) :-)04:20
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St0n3-C0lWell...new version of mplayer from Ubuntu doesn't do full screen...the size of the screen remains same04:20
GurumCoily, that probably won't be possible...since partition has to be in contigous sector.04:20
chazwurthda_bon_bon: If you'd be willing to give me your address, I'd be willing to ship you CDs; I just looked the rates up, they're quite cheap for light objects.04:20
XgatesZotnix: no Im saying Mplayer as compared to Xine will not, that is just how Mplayer is built04:20
trans_errSt0n3-C0l: try a different VO04:20
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Gurumstone, it does full screen....04:20
Xgatesbtw what MPlayer pack is working best for most?04:21
Gurumalso, try pressing "f"04:21
da_bon_bonchazwurth: are you sure ?04:21
chazwurthda_bon_bon: If you're interested, msg me.04:21
Gurumalso -zoom -fs04:21
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benjawhat is Hoary Sound Media Device.. /dev/dsp ?04:21
XgatesMplayer-68604:21
ZotnixSt0n3-C0l:> I've had that problem. Sometimes   mplayer -vo sdl     or    mplayer -vo xv   works better.04:21
Xgatestransitional dummy package which can be safely removed04:21
XgatesDummy package to upgrade to the new package mplayer-58604:21
GurumActually, I had to compile mplayer from source to enable W32 codecs.04:21
Xgateswhats this?04:21
Xgatesdummy pack?04:21
ZotnixI personally use -vo xv04:21
trans_errGurum: zoom is only required for a few of the vo's-- sdl and xv work better w/o04:21
Funraisernobody uses gdesklet??04:22
bretzelchazwurth: wow! you are a kind person :-)04:22
Gurumtrans, oh..04:22
liableCoily: dunno, but I doubt it, out of my league04:22
Coilyliable, hm well then04:22
Gurumwell, try compiling from source... compiled just fine.... get all Win32 codecs...04:22
liableCoily: but dont take my word for it04:22
GurumAlso, try VLC... seems to work well as well.04:22
Xgatesis there a tool in Ubuntu that helps you make .deb packs?04:22
XgatesI have never made them before04:22
ZotnixIn /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf you can edit the default vo04:22
Coilyill try to explain my partition table and maybe i can get an idea from someone04:22
liableCoily: google is your friend04:23
XgatesI dont care to compile Xine thats no biggie I just like neatness and would like to pack it into a .deb to then install it04:23
nekohayoany breezy badger user experiencing a broken gaim this morning?04:23
GurumCoily, same time.. just move important stuff to CD/DVD or another drive..04:23
Xgatesat least then I'd know the friggin thing worked good04:23
Gurumrepartition your drive from scratch..04:23
Gurumhonestly, I wouldn't trust Qtparted..04:23
XgatesI get the feeling this Mplayer was compiled with bad flags for the arch, cpu04:24
Xgates..04:24
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Gurumxgates, well, 386 should be fine for AMD athlons.. seriously, we are not Gentoo freaks here.04:24
Coilycan the ubuntu install disk copy my ubuntu installation to a freespace partition?04:24
chazwurthbretzel: Eh, it's a couple of bucks, and it spreads Linux joy :P04:24
XgatesGurum: neither am I and 386 is not good04:25
Xgateswell depends on the mcpu what it was done as04:25
GurumBtw, people, isn't it possible to just mount whatever partition to root, and it'll merge, right?04:25
Xgatesbut I have run Xine 5 years on this box, and Xine here in Ubuntu is awful04:25
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Gurumxgates, perhaps it might be also video driver....04:26
Gurumxgates, I wasted three hours trying to get ATI 9100 work here..04:26
Gurum:(04:26
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Gurumwell, I am not a big fan of Xine.. it crahses all the time..04:26
KishuI heard there is a program for linux that supports writing to ntfs partitions?04:26
CoilyGurum, but thats not what i want to do, i need to backup an xp partition with the freespace04:26
KishuCan anyone tell me what the name of it is?04:26
Coilyasking again?04:26
BurgundaviaKishu, yes, but very experimental04:26
Coilyer again:04:26
Coilycan the ubuntu install disk copy my ubuntu installation to a freespace partition?04:26
Gurumkishu, captive-ntfs?04:26
liableCoily: man dd04:27
GurumCoily, if you just want to backup, I recommend Norton Ghost.. I am pretty sure there is linux equivalent, so help.04:27
GurumKishu, don't try...you'll corrupt your disk..04:27
XgatesGurum: nope video driver fine04:27
GurumFat32 is fine..but NTFS... experimental.04:27
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membreyaGurum: to backup my linux partition I just use rsync on a cron job :)04:28
KishuBecause linux doesn't really support ntfs on it's own, would linux support an ntfs partition on a USB harddisk?04:28
CoilyGurum, no its not to backup, its to use for booting04:28
Xgateslike I said been running this box 5 years in Slack, Gnome, Kde, Openbox, Xine, Mplayer, XMMS, Evolution, Firefox, and on and on and on04:28
Coilyill ask again, updated:04:28
GurumCoily, also I think you'll run into problem if you really mess your parttion with Win XP...04:28
kkathmananyone a python guru here?04:28
Xgatesyou name it I have compiled TONS of apps in Slackware, and everything ran like perfection04:28
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Coilycan the ubuntu install disk copy my ubuntu installation to a freespace partition, keeping the copied install bootable?04:28
KishuI want to put a hd in a hd-case but it's 300 gb and FAT32 doesn't support that much04:28
seliniumKishu: what are you trying to do with the hd?04:29
GurumI've tried something like that before...and even edited config files...didn't boot04:29
KishuSo, if I would make it ntfs would linux support it because the USB converts it or something?04:29
liableCoily: look at partimage04:29
CoilyGurum, well maybe someone can get it working04:29
Gurumkishu, ntfs is ntfs.04:29
seliniumKishu: you would be able to read fromthe disk, but not write04:29
frankKishu: a vmware running windows XP that mounts a physicsl partition should work04:29
Gurumkshu, stick to Fat32...also, it's probably not a good idea to have 300 gig in one partition.... split into three 90 gig..04:30
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Gurumbtw, vmware 5.0 is amazing.. boots faster than real WinXP...04:30
Anubisthere appears to be a memory hole in nicotine 1.8rc104:30
Gurumvmware can actually play divx movies inside win xp... supports usb devices.... etc...04:30
Anubisanybody putting together 1.8 final?04:30
Gurumamazing..04:30
Anubiscan alien turn a tarball into a .deb?04:31
Coilyliable, thats what im looking for. thanks04:31
liableCoily: np04:31
Gurumcoily, what was the solution?04:32
CoilyGurum, partimage04:32
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Gurumpartimage can actually join two non-joining partitions? :-O04:33
membreyacan it ? :|04:33
mvirkkilAnubis: no.04:33
CoilyGurum, no. it can copy an ubuntu partition04:33
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shawnhmorgan04:33
liableGurum: read his last question04:33
shawnhhow is everyone04:33
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shawnh29mbc04:33
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shawnh hey my birthday is  nez week04:33
Gurumoh..04:33
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shawnhmirk04:34
benjawhat is Hoary Sound Media Device.. /dev/dsp ?04:34
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someone_1hmm.04:34
shawnhmoaning beji04:34
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everyone_shawnh: I'm fine :-)04:34
shawnhthat soud is pretty hoary04:34
Xgateshell I mean my box is no scream machine but for Linux its fast enough, AMD 1.1 on 384MB, and I'm even running Blackbox on a custom compiled kernel, with just about all the startup services killed, and XINE is still choppy04:34
XgatesI  mean hell thats crap04:34
Xgateserrrr04:34
davegahangedit does not see some of the gnome menu items ?04:34
someone_1hmm.. xgates, weird, xine should run just fine.. amd 1.1 is plenty..04:34
shawnhhmmmm04:34
carlos-d-mancomo conectas un tel sip a asterisk?04:35
shawnhout of my leuge04:35
everyone_Xgates: I've run xine on a PII 300 with 64mb of ram.04:35
Coilyliable, actually partimage might be a roundabout way of doing what im trying to do. wont i have to save the partition to my hdd first? and even then, how will i use the files to install it to a new partition? wouldnt it be easier to copy the partition straight to a new one, or must an image be created first04:35
shawnheveryone04:35
someone_1out of my league here.. I have only switched to Linux complete 2 weeks ago.04:35
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Xgatessomeone_1: yes no kidding and it's not, and I have run it many years just fine in Slack04:35
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shawnhI switsed yesterday04:35
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shawnh the comp came in on the bus from my cousin04:35
XgatesI'm trying to think what I can do04:35
Xgateshmm04:35
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shawnhcheeseball04:36
mvirkkilXgates: Are you scaling the output?04:36
liableCoily: yeah, you need somewhere to put the image files04:36
AnubisXgates, is dma turned on all drives?04:36
shawnhwelcome04:36
XgatesAnubis: not sure, and cant remember how to check04:36
mvirkkilXgates: It's less cpu intesive to switch to a suitable screenmode and play it unscaled.04:36
Xgatesmean with hdparm?04:36
az[a] zelhey, im trying to help a friend install the nvidia drivers. What packages are needed to be installed? and afterwards what configuration needs to happen?04:36
liableCoily: you need to sort out ypur spare partition first04:36
AnubisXgates, hdparm -tT04:36
gurum999well, I finally got Palm Tungsten T3 syncing, Canon printer, mounting ntfs paritions automatically, java interpreter, Yahoo mail fetching, Ksensors, et ..working after like 20 hours...04:36
AnubisXgates, hdparm -tT /dev/hdx04:36
gurum999seriously, but I think it's worth it..04:37
liables/ypur/your04:37
davegahansomeone who knows how to plumb with gnome menu editor ?04:37
Anubisgurum999, congrates04:37
mvirkkildavegahan: What gnome menu editor?04:37
gurum999so only thing that is not working right now is Ati 9100 3d acceleration..04:37
Coilyliable, well thatll be a pain in the ass but doable i suppose. do you have any idea how i would copy the image to a new partition?04:37
gurum999anubis, thanks... Ubuntu and its users were most helpful..04:37
mjrgurum999, hmh, that should work out of the box04:37
Coilyliable, once i have it saved to disk first, that is04:38
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davegahanallows you to edit the gnome application menu04:38
XgatesAnubis:  Timing cached reads:   436 MB in  2.02 seconds = 216.30 MB/sec04:38
Xgates Timing buffered disk reads:   80 MB in  3.02 seconds =  26.52 MB/sec04:38
gurum999mjr, really? fglrx doesn't load.04:38
thenukehey do I have to do upgrade or dist-upgrade when going from warty to hoary04:38
Xgatesmvirkkil: how you do that I dont think I have had to mess with Xine much04:38
thenukeupgrade would use ~20megs of HD and dist-upgrade would use 400megs of HD or was it 200..04:39
AnubisXgates, does it say dma (on)?04:39
gurum999thenuke, exit xserver, kill gdm, then do "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" ?04:39
mjrgurum999, it should work out of the box _without_ fglrx04:39
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Coilythenuke, just change everything in sources.list from warty to hoary then apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade04:39
XgatesAnubis: no I didnt see that just what I pasted you04:39
mjrgurum999, the free DRI driver supports radeons up to 925004:39
thenukegurum999: hum ok04:39
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mjrgurum999, for 3d, that is04:39
XgatesAnubis: what Ubuntu has it off by default?04:39
gurum999mjr, 3d acceleration? is it good enough compared to ATI drivers?04:39
Xgateshmm04:39
Xgatesthat might be the problem then04:39
carlos-d-manalguien sabe como logear conversaciones de irc con xchat?04:40
gurum999glxgears only gave me 1700, but I should be getting like 3000...04:40
mjrgurum999, well, to me it's good enough. It's probably some measure slower than ATI's. I don't know.04:40
membreyagurum999: don't complain..my amd64 3200 only gets 400fps on glxgears04:40
AnubisXgates, not on harddrives but sometimes roms do not have it turned on. use hdparm on your drives with no -tT04:40
liableCoily: if you have a partiton, just choose no compression, as long as your partition is bigger than the old one, then you should be ok. Look at the docs, I am no expert, I have only used it to save to cd's and it worked well backing up then. Maybe look at dd as I said. Its a bit hard to work out though.04:40
mjrif you're getting 4-figure amounts, you're running with acceleration04:40
gurum999mjr, my problem is some screensavers (gl ones) would hard crash xserver.....04:40
gurum999it's been documented but no solutions on the forum.04:40
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da_bon_bonmembreya: with dri on? then somethings seriously wron04:41
mjrgurum999, ah. Well. Then there must be a bug in the DRI driver for your card04:41
XgatesAnubis: sorry run it how?04:41
Kishudoes ubuntu support all cluster sizes with FAT32?04:41
AnubisXgates, haparm /dev/hdx04:41
gurum999mjr, ic..04:41
AnubisXgates, hdparm /dev/hdx04:41
Coilyliable, dd scares me :x04:41
mjrKishu, Linux should, and hence Ubuntu04:41
AnubisXgates, hdparm  /dev/hdx04:41
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membreyada_bon_bon: using an nvidia card..disable DRI :)04:41
XgatesAnubis:  using_dma    =  1 (on)04:42
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da_bon_bonmembreya: why no dri for nvidia ?04:42
liableCoily: so it should, it scares me too, but partimage is just a front end for it I believe04:42
membreyaCoily: are you trying to figure out how to dump a partition from one to the other ?04:42
gurum999ah, running nvidia was so much easier with linux... just install binary from nvidia..04:42
gurum999not with ATI.04:42
da_bon_bonmembreya: man, i get > 500 on my abysmal onboard i810 with PIII 500mhz 256mb ram04:42
Coilymembreya, correct04:42
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AnubisXgates, do all of your drives like that04:42
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Coilymembreya, and make it bootable04:42
membreyada_bon_bon: that's what the installs tell me04:42
bretzelCoily: "dd scares you?" I used dd to clone an unprotected DVD film then burned the ISO and it plays as well  on my dvd player ...04:43
membreyaCoily: oh ok, well I mirror my linux partition daily with rsync04:43
gurum999da_bon_bon, well, with linux, I don't think video cards don't really matter.. as long as you don't have to run in framebuffer04:43
membreyabretzel: dd = damn dangerous :P04:43
XgatesAnubis: I only have one drive, and I ran that04:43
gurum999da_bon_bon, esp. Intel opensourced i810 drivers, it will probably become better than my 910004:43
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Coilybretzel, but im talking about an entire partition here04:43
da_bon_bongurum999: right., but i am really not into gaming much, so i dont really care either way :)04:43
Xgates hdparm  /dev/hdx just tells whats on and off correct?04:43
AnubisXgates, surely you have a rom device, which is another drive04:43
membreyaXgates: no hdparm -d /dev/hdx does04:43
gurum999da_bon_bon, I just want to watch crazy opengl 3d eye candies on my xmms04:44
Coilymembreya, would you recommend partimage if i dont know what the hell im doing04:44
bretzelmembreya: dd is dangerous when misused... as dangerous as powerfull :-) But for reading ( dupplicating ) it is not armfull04:44
liablebretzel: but you feel completely comfortable backing up your hdd with it?04:44
da_bon_bongurum999: man, try xcomp if u have nice fps - u will love it04:44
membreyaCoily: I've got no experience with it ... only rsync to prevent me screwing up my system..AGAIN04:44
reagleBRKLNhrmm... updated to ubuntu from a knoppix/sid install, pretty smooth, except my java is funky. I usually install sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+beta1_i386.deb, but freemind and limewire are making various complaints...04:44
plettbretzel: unless you get your if= and of= the wrong way round :)04:44
sdogibretzel: it is not, when you don't mess with devices, like writing to them and stuff04:44
liablebretzel: dvd is one thing, hdd a little diiferent04:44
Xgatesmembreya: does what, sorry what are you saying?04:44
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gurum999da_bon)bon, not in the repository?04:45
sdogii usually do something like dd if=/dev/zero of=testfile bs=1024 count=1000004:45
Coilymembreya, so rsync can copy my partition to a freespace one, directly?04:45
bretzelliable: backuping 80GB at once ... no of course!!!! I will be crazy to do it...04:45
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membreyaXgates: hdparm -d /dev/hdx will tell you dma04:45
sdogiwhen i want to measure how fast can this testfile travel from one pc to another04:45
membreyain a short form :P04:45
Coilymembreya, if so, would you point me to a tutorial of how to do this, or maybe how you do it04:45
membreyaCoily: as I said, I do a direct dump of my partition daily04:45
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Xgates/dev/hda:04:45
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Xgates using_dma    =  1 (on)04:45
sdogimembreya: to where ?:))04:45
Coilymembreya, is the copy bootable?04:45
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bretzelAnd you have to know that the target partition must be EXACTLY the same geometry as the source partition04:46
Zotnixo.o04:46
rijiWhat do i need to remove ads in firefox+04:46
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sdogiCoily: it is exact copy, so yes04:46
ZotnixAm I still connected?04:46
XgatesAnubis: I cant say I know about the rom04:46
gurum999da_bon_bon, do you know the url from xcomp?04:46
Burgundaviariji, adblock04:46
gurum999google no help04:46
membreyasdogi: to my download partition (85gb)04:46
liablebretzel: or bigger hmm04:46
XgatesAnubis: I just have one hdd --> /dev/hda04:46
Coilyok then repeating my previous question:04:46
Coilywould you point me to a tutorial of how to do this, or maybe how you do it04:46
membreyaCoily: it's not bootable because I choose not to boot to it, you would need to install a boot loader to it's MBR but that's a piece of piss04:46
da_bon_bongurum999: apt-get install xcompmgr transset fdclock04:46
Coilymembreya, why cant i use grub and change the root fs04:47
rijiwhere to find it?04:47
gurum999da_bon_bon, thanks..04:47
da_bon_bongurum999: then google a bit for "enabling composite in X" --> u need to modify some xorg.conf04:47
bretzelIn the old time of 20GB hard disk, I wrote a KDE backup utility using dd, zlib. There were no such public tool yet ( back in 1999 )04:47
sdogimembreya: then you only did a dump of partition, when you do the dump of whole /dev/hdX then it is bootable04:47
Sauron21Does anyone know why DMA is disabled in ubuntu???(and how I can enable it??:P)04:47
membreyaCoily: my daily cron is sudo rsync -au --exclude "/media" --exclude "sys/" --exclude "proc/" / /media/downloads/Linux so it syncs everything except media, sys and proc ...and it backs it up to /media/downloads/Linux04:47
sdogihdparm -d1 /dev/hdX for dma04:47
membreyaSauron21: sudo hdparm d1 /dev/hdx04:48
BurgundaviaSauron21, it is turned off by default because it can make certain drives unusable04:48
sdogiSauron21: check the /etc/hdparm.conf04:48
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Xgatesdamm I dont get whats sucking this box up04:48
Xgatesbut possibly hotplug and something else is mucking it up04:48
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Xgatescause I shouldnt be lagging with Xine this bad04:48
gurum999da_bon_bon, done..04:48
BurgundaviaXgates, you enabled dma?04:49
Xgates using_dma    =  1 (on)04:49
Xgatesits on04:49
membreyahmmmm da_bon_bon has raised a good point..is there any damage to be done by enabling DRI in my xorg.conf with an nvidia card?04:49
Coilymembreya, but where does it put the copy?04:49
da_bon_bongurum999: gret. try it -*- "xcompmgr -fc&  &&  killall gnome-panel"04:49
Sauron21membreya: did work....got "d1: No such file or directory"04:49
XgatesBurgundavia: at least I think it is:04:49
Xgateshdparm -d /dev/hda04:49
Xgates/dev/hda:04:49
Xgates using_dma    =  1 (on)04:49
liableSauron21: read the man page and google before you play with hdparm, it can kill your hdd04:50
mishofis there a tutorial teaching how to use samba under ubuntu ?04:50
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membreyacoily, to my /media/downloads/Linux directory...but you can always do it to a seperate partition (just mount it first)04:50
resiak!ubuntu04:50
da_bon_bonmembreya: i assume not. anyway, if theres some problem, u can always disable it - there will neevr be some hardware problem, so no loss04:50
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Xgatesyou know I HATE udev I think its crap, everyone that ever used it in Slackware had nothing but problems with it04:50
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Xgatescan Ubuntu just use static ?04:50
da_bon_bonXgates: wrong. i use slackware and i have NO problems.04:50
Coilymembreya, so the only modifier i need is -a?04:50
liableresiak: heh no dpkg here04:50
Xgatesstatic devices04:51
da_bon_bonXgates: use devfs if u r that keen04:51
gurum999da_bon_bon: sudo xcompmgr -fc&  && killall gnome-panel04:51
membreyaCoily: -a does an archive of the files, so maintains all sym links and permissions04:51
gurum999bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'04:51
Xgatesdevfs is still alot simpler and trouble free over udev04:51
resiakliable: I thought I was reading #debian, saw someone asking about Ubuntu and my fingers instinctively hit my !ubuntu keybinding...04:51
Coilymembreya, i dont understand why an archive would keep symlinks/permissions04:51
bretzelI din't like xcompmgr => XDAMAGE is still in SCRAP state!04:51
da_bon_bongurum999: sorrry. no need to "sudo" IIRC -- and remove the space between & && -- it shud me xcomp... & && kil...04:52
liableresiak: you have a #ubuntu keybinding?04:52
membreyaCoily: do a man rsync to understand :)04:52
gurum999Also does anyone enabled multimedia keyboard in ubuntu yet? never imagined how painful this would be.. with toying with xev, etc.04:52
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bretzelespecially when I use vncviewer with xcompmgr! try it!04:52
membreyabrb04:52
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resiakliable: I have a !knoppix and a !kanotix keybinding too ;)04:52
joviangurum999, i did in warty04:52
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jovianused the keyboard shortcuts in the prefrences04:53
nekohayohi, is anybody else having problems starting gaim? It gives me a symbol lookup error (/usr/lib/libaspell.so.15: undefined symbol: _Znwj)04:53
resiakliable: Saves my poor fingers.04:53
dcravenWhich one of you guys broke my system bell?04:53
mvirkkilXgates: It's somewhere in the preferences...04:53
mvirkkilXgates: (not at home right now -> can't check)04:53
bretzelgurum999: System->preferences->keyboard shortcuts - try assigning your mult.key. normally there are some keys working, for the others dead keys, yes it is pain04:54
da_bon_bongurum999: need to run, search on ubuntuforums.org theres a howto there. or goole :) bye04:54
Xgatesmvirkkil: ok04:54
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Burgundavianekohayo, breezy?04:54
nekohayoyes04:54
liable!ubuntusmite resiak04:54
resiakliable: Wrong channel ;)04:55
Burgundavianekohayo, really not recommended04:55
nekohayoI guess that's normal, I should "expect" stuff to break04:55
nekohayook, well how could I revert :P04:55
liablewheres dpkg when you need him04:55
mishofQ: is there a tutorial teaching how to use samba/ sharing files with windows under ubuntu ?04:55
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resiakliable: About 6 irssi windows to my left ;)04:55
liableheh04:55
nekohayoI mean there are packages that got updated and all04:55
dr_willisubuntuguide.org has some info.04:55
gurum999jovian, bretzel...wow, it works~!04:55
bretzel:-)04:56
gurum999jovian, bretzel, and I was trying to figure out how to use Xev to log keyevents, and change xinitrc,etc.. :(04:56
mishofdr_willis, it just says to get samba and smbfs - what now ? :\04:56
Xgatesmvirkkil: is it called --> disable all video scaling?04:56
mvirkkilXgates: Test the different drivers. I think xv or xshm is the fast one.04:56
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Xgatesxv typically has always been good for me04:57
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mvirkkilXgates: Try changing it if it's choppy04:57
mishofanyone here knows how to share folders with windows network ?04:57
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Xyrouzmishof: use samba...04:58
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mvirkkilmishof: apt-get install samba && man samba.conf04:58
resiakmishof: apt-get install samba-doc, read them :)04:58
Xgatesmvirkkil: nope still no good04:58
mvirkkilXgates: :/04:58
mishofok thanks04:58
Coilyis it possible to boot from an ext3 partition which had all of its files copied from a different ubuntu install?04:58
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Xgatesits all these damm things Ubuntu has going on udev, hotplug, etc..04:58
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dcahrakosif I wanted to install the newest gimp, I use the deb package right?04:59
XgatesIm killing the rest and try another kernel too04:59
mvirkkilCoily: Write grup to the boot partition and configure it.04:59
Xgatesbbl THANKS guys04:59
XyrouzCoily, if you have set up an boot loader, yws04:59
mishofjust- how do i start the samba server ?04:59
bretzelmishof: You should rather search google for samba-how-to. as samba usage applies normally to all linux, I didn't find yet any ubuntu tools for samba server config04:59
Coilygreat, thanks04:59
Xgatesif this doesnt work out for its back to Slack I go04:59
mishofbretzel, yeah, i just found samba.org :P04:59
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Coilyi just wanted to make sure there are no files (besides say fstab and menu.list) which would have to be edited for the correct partition name, etc05:00
sridErrors were encountered while processing:05:00
srid /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4_2.4.1-1_i386.deb05:00
sridlocalepurge: Disk space freed in /usr/share/locale: 152K05:00
sridE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:00
srid(in breezy)05:00
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sridUnpacking replacement python2.4 ...05:00
sriddpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4_2.4.1-1_i386.deb (--unpack):05:00
srid trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/ConfigParser.py', which is also in package python2.4-minimal05:00
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sridCompiling optimized python modules in /usr/lib/python2.4 ...05:00
sridErrors were encountered while processing:05:00
srid /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4_2.4Unpacking replacement python2.4 ...05:00
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srid trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/ConfigParser.py', which is also in package python2.4-minimal05:00
mvirkkilsrid: -> #flood05:00
sriddpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)05:00
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mvirkkilsrid: Stop!05:00
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sridErrors were encountered while processing:05:01
srid /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4_2.4.1-1_i386.deb05:01
sladencens0red: ?05:01
sridE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:01
mishofO_O05:01
sridsri@infinity:~ $ .1-1_i386.deb05:01
mvirkkilsrid: NOT HERE"05:01
sridE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:01
sridsri@infinity:~ $05:01
mvirkkilsrid: NOT HERE!05:01
srid(oops, this is X.org middle-click bug .. pasting twice :(05:01
sridmvirkkil, sorry05:01
liableno flood kick in #ubuntu eh?05:01
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Coilyrepeating because of flood:05:01
Coilyi just wanted to make sure there are no files (besides say fstab and menu.list) which would have to be edited for the correct partition name, etc05:01
bretzel(Xgates) : I think he is a bit frustrated, his prob applies once with me on warthy, but I had to uninstall most of video playback stuff then restart with XINE only stuff and pregressively install codecs and dvd stuff ... I was a bit unpatient ...05:01
paulfoxbretzel, what was his problem?05:01
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sridno Breezy in http://www.ubuntuforums.org/05:02
mvirkkilliable: I guess ubuntu's supposed to be sooo friendly. I like the if they aren't useful kick them, mentality ;-) (just kidding)05:02
paulfoxsri, there is05:02
bretzelpaulfox: sorry I didn't followed his probs... he was complaining about crappy playback05:02
gurum999bbl05:02
dr_willisthe more complex the os gets - the harder it gets to keep things working perfectly.   im amazed that ubuntu has so few problems. :P05:03
liabledr_willis: bless you05:03
dr_willisactually im amazed that any computers work.05:03
bretzeldr_willis: :-)05:03
dr_willistheres a lot of little parts in those durn things!05:03
paulfoxbretzel, ahh right. if he was using ati binary drivers, that might be the cause. they're useless.05:03
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bretzelpaulfox: oh my! I am lucky to have nvidia cards on my home computers05:04
paulfoxbretzel, i'm never EVER buying ati again, or a laptop with ati in. morons05:04
paulfox:)05:04
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falcon3how do i open gdesklets program to select various desklets ?05:04
dcahrakoscan I use apt-get remove gimp to remove the old version of gimp?05:05
dcravensrid, I just fixed that exact same problem... I installed the deb manually with the --force-overwrite flag to dpkg.05:05
nekohayoBurgundavia, could you give me a hint on how I could "revert" to hoary? (besides changing the names in the sources.list again)05:05
sriddcraven, how?05:05
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mvirkkilpaulfox: I like the 7000, 8000, 9000 and 9200 radeons. They are the last and only ones that have oss 3d drivers.05:05
Burgundavianekohayo, is hard to roll back changes05:05
membreyaI figured out a way to get higher scores in glxgears..run it off screen :P my score increases to 1200fps! :D05:05
Burgundavianekohayo, you can force the installation of the gaim from hoary05:05
sriddcraven, $ dpkg --force-overwrite python2.4 ?05:05
dcravensrid, and if you have a large error like that in the future, paste it into www.pastebin.com and post the link to it here please.05:05
liablemvirkkil: just not used to not being kicked for flooding, nothing at all to do wit ubuntu, not here to be nasty05:05
sriddcraven, ok05:05
nekohayothat's what puzzles me: gaim was NOT updated!05:06
bretzelI shouldn't complain against ATI cards.... It is my country's company!! :-) And yet I don't want to buy it me too05:06
mvirkkilliable: I wasn't saying that you were here to be nasty. I was saying that I wouldn't mind if someone was ;-)05:06
nekohayoBurgundavia, I could do that for those ~20 packages (that must now be in "local and obsolete") maybe?05:06
srid$ sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4_2.4.1-1_i386.deb05:06
mishofis there an application similiar to smb4k - for gnome ?05:06
paulfoxmvirkkil, never used those chipsets. this laptop is the first time i've had an ati card. the company are just bad news, in my experience.05:06
dcravensrid, that's it.05:06
liablemvirkkil: ok, then well, I think that you are .....05:07
liable:)05:07
sriddcraven, how many lines max i can paste here?05:07
bretzelI mean ATI is based in my country ... ( low english skill )05:07
dcravensrid, see if that works. I actually had to do some other things too.05:07
sriddcraven, throwing error05:07
dcravensrid, of what type?05:07
sriddpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of python2.4:05:07
srid python2.4 depends on libbz2-1.0; however:05:07
srid  Package libbz2-1.0 is not configured yet.05:07
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sridlet me dist-upgrade again05:08
mvirkkilpaulfox: The drivers _from_ ati really royally suck. I agree.05:08
dcravensrid, I had the same thing... Install that package manually again too.05:08
Coilymembreya, can i see your cron daily again?05:08
zAo^mishof, $ sudo shares-admin ?05:08
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StRHi there,  i'm trying to compile something,  and I get:   checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes05:09
mvirkkilsrid: Don't paste more than a say 3 lines. If you want to paste more use something like http://www.pastebin.com/05:09
StRwhat pkg should I install?05:09
dcravensrid, that reconfigured it and then allowed the installation of the python package.05:09
membreyacoily: sudo rsync -au --exclude "media/" --exclude "sys/" --exclude "proc/" / /media/downloads/Linux05:09
sridok05:09
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bretzelzAo^: Q: I tried  shares-admin and all it does is "freeze" ... nothing else ...\05:09
dr_willisStR,  theres a great many developer paclkages out for different 'libraries, and otehr features'  you need to track down the X ones. :P05:09
Coilymembreya, if you didnt exclude media, would it be caught in a loop?05:10
zAo^bretzel, started it in cosole? What did it say?05:10
membreyanot a loop, but it would try and back itself up :|05:10
bretzelzAo^: nothing - no trace, debug infos -- nothing05:10
Coily:O05:10
zAo^hmm05:11
zAo^sorry dont donno :)05:11
dr_willisStR,  fire up syntapic and its prberly named somehting like xfree-dev or similer.05:11
dcravenStR, apt-get install x-dev libx11-dev05:12
Coilymembreya, should i exclude sys and proc as well?05:12
dr_willisx-dev - X protocol development files    and    xlibs-dev - X Window System client library development files transitional package05:13
dr_willisare what i find. :P05:13
bretzelzAo^: "art_render_invkde: no image source given" 3 times05:13
Coilymembreya, assuming i want to make the copied files bootable at somepoint05:13
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ilsaI reinstalled the OS just in case I screwed something up initially but Hoary still won't go past 640x480.  Resolutions and whatnot appear to be detected properly.  The xorg.conf file looks about what it should be.05:13
mjrincidentally, anyone happen to know if X.org supports directly the use of multiple heads (on a single or separate video cards) and multiple keyboards for many users per box, or does one still need a patched server for that?05:13
bretzeloops read ..._invoke05:13
membreyaCoily: I exclude sys because it hangs my system..but im not 100% sure of it ...proc I exclude because it's virtual :)05:13
zAo^bretzel, that's just GUI talk I guess05:13
dr_willisive used multi heads on my video card with x.org (nvidia 6800)05:14
dr_willisno idea about the keyboards. :P05:14
Coilymembreya, so an empty proc folder wouldnt stop ubuntu from booting?05:14
bretzelme too I guess... It is acutally frozen, all GUI greyed I mean05:14
membreyano05:14
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membreyanot AFAIK anyhoo :P05:14
Coily:O05:14
Coilyanyone?05:14
Coilywould an empty proc folder wouldnt stop ubuntu from booting?05:14
Coilyer05:14
bretzelAt least if only the "Add" button was enabled ...05:14
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dcravenilsa, paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in pastebin.com... Probably you need to add your refresh rates for your monitor. That'd be my first guess based on experience.05:14
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dr_willisi thought /proc was a virtual thing anyway.  and would be empty if you looked at the drive with another os/live cd.05:15
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dcravenilsa, unless you know how to do that, then you don't need to paste it anywhere :)05:15
Coilyok ill hope for the best05:15
ilsaWhoop! I think I just noticed something...05:15
XyrouzI agree with dr_willis !05:15
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bretzeldr_willis: nvidia 6800 : lucky you are! mine is gfx 5200, the most dangerous and crappy card!05:16
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dr_willisbretzel,  lol. :P05:16
dcravenI'm lost without my pcspkr beep :(05:16
ilsaLooking at the conf that was created, I noticed that the bit depth was set to 24, which my machine can't do at 1024x768.  I wonder if that's the problem.  (I hope).05:16
dcravenilsa, that's common too. Set it to 16 maybe.05:17
bretzeldr_willis: but at least, it has 128MB of DDR video ram ... :-)05:17
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mishofQ: I've edited smb.conf, and now i want the new settings to take place - what should i do to restart the samba server?05:17
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dcravenmishof, /etc/init.d/samba restart05:18
Chipparnhi. how can i get totem to play mpg files..and more important WHY dosnt it play the most common files in the first place?05:18
housetiermishof sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart05:18
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dcravenChipparn, apt-get install totem-xine05:18
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housetieralso http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:18
bretzelmishof: sudo /etc/rc2.d/S20samba restart .... I dunno other ways in ubuntu05:18
ilsaDone.  Now I just have to wait for my installer to finish cause I started installing other apps while I was futzing.05:18
Chipparndcraven: ok thanks05:19
bretzelSXX if not S2005:19
mishoflol you gave 3 different ways :P anyway the first one seems to work05:19
dcravenhousetier, does that do anything differently than /etc/init.d/samba restart? I've never used what you suggested.05:19
mishofin mandrake it was easier though ...05:19
dr_willisi consider -->  /etc/init.d/samba restart   to be fairly easy :P05:19
housetierdcraven no difference05:19
triandafilosQuestion05:19
ilsaIt's strange that the video detection is so completely different between the liveCD and the install cd.05:19
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dcravenhousetier, okay. Cool.05:19
bretzelrc2.d contains the links with prefix S# for start order I guess05:20
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ilsaAnswer05:20
Paradiossinadoes anybody know why http://www.getsweaaa.com is down?05:20
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dr_willislivecd is based on Knoppix isent it?05:20
dr_willisor was a branch of knoppix?05:20
triandafilosim new to linux and need some assistance in setting up antivirus software if its required for ubuntu?05:20
membreyawhat...daniels isn't here :| ..how odd05:20
dcravenChipparn, did you run that command as root as the error suggests?05:20
dr_willisbretzel,  correct. the #'s are the order.. and the #'s mean somthing that i forget also..05:20
dr_willistriandafilos,  not really needed. :P05:21
membreyaaaah..he's just hiding :P05:21
ilsaI thought liveCD is just that, a live version of ubuntu.05:21
dcravenChipparn, sudo apt-get install totem-xine05:21
Xyrouztriandafolis: it is not required on linux platforms :)05:21
Chipparndcraven: nope05:21
dr_willisilsa,  thers a lot of different things that have to be done with a live cd. its not identical to the isntall cd in many ways.05:21
dcravenChipparn, read the error messages, sometimes (occasionally) they are helpful :)05:21
bretzeldr_willis: 'S maens "script" ??? hahahah It is a guess05:21
dr_willisbretzel,  S means start. K means kill :P05:22
ilsaHuh.  Well, I think the developers then need to move some of the livecd stuff into the main install cd. :)05:22
bretzel:P05:22
Chipparndcraven: it dosnt work.. i have some problem with finding the source05:22
Paradiossina does anybody know why http://www.getsweaaa.com is down since yesterday?05:22
bretzelilsa: why? there are really good stuff in live CD ?05:22
triandafilosthanks05:22
dr_willisbretzel,  and like at S40+ i think network is to be setup.. and at 60+ somtnhing else is supposed to be set up.. ect..05:22
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dr_willisilsa,   you could always apt-get the programs you like.05:23
triandafilosis there anything else i need to do on a new install of ubuntu?05:23
membreyahow many nvidia users are experiencing this problem? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7183 and is there anything that can fix/workaround it except removing renderaccel?05:23
dcravenChipparn, it's in universe/multiverse.. Have a look here to add those to your sources -->http://tinyurl.com/3qv6t05:23
Coilywhats the simplest way to create an ext3 partition, no os?05:23
bretzeldr_willis: that is cool to know ! I just don't want to say how I did once to disable a service.... no I don't :-) :-)05:23
mjrCoily, boot a livecd of your choosing05:23
Coilymjr, will the ubuntu install disc (not live) work05:24
Chipparndcraven: with sudo apt-get install totem-xine command i get error 13 something about not able to open lock file. i dont have english ubuntu so im translating badly05:24
MyrttiChipparn: do you have synaptic running?05:25
dcravenChipparn, is it possible that you have synaptic or update-manager open?05:25
dr_willisbretzel,  just delete the S## file from the rc.X level you dont want it to run in. :P05:25
mjrCoily, hmm, I think so, if you go to the second virtual console and activate it05:25
triandafiloscan anyone please help me with the following error message...05:25
dr_willisbretzel,  leave the init.d original alone. the rc.# files are links back to the originals.05:25
dcravenflood?05:25
mjrCoily, or use the rescue mode05:25
Chipparnno.. i dont have synaptic running.05:25
triandafilosTotem could not play 'file:///home/triandafilos/flushit.avi'.05:25
triandafilosFailed to open; reason unknown05:26
mjr(hmm, was there a rescue mode? ;)05:26
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Coilymjr, just boot into the kernel's rescue mode?05:26
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stuffshi05:26
stuffsso i think the tunepimp package does not come with mp3 support05:26
stuffsi have libmad, but tunepimp still will not do mp3s05:27
Chipparndcraven: i cant even do apt-get update. something about not able to open lockfile05:27
Chipparnaccess denied05:27
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dr_willisChipparn,  if you have 2 programs running that are both  accessing the apt stuff.. you can get an error like that.05:27
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dcravenChipparn, sounds to me like it is locked by another app like synaptic. If not, try opening synaptic and see if it works.05:28
dr_willisie: running synaptic, then trying to apt-get install from a shell  while synaptic is running.05:28
triandafilosany ideas?05:28
mutekBauBau05:28
Chipparndr_willis: i see... but the problem is that im not :)05:28
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fabbione405:28
fabbioneops05:28
dcraventriandafilos, ar you using totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?05:28
bretzeldr_willis: yes I agree :-) thanks for the infos :-)05:28
triandafiloshow do i check?05:29
dr_willistriandafilos,  the ubuntuguide.org has some info on the mp3 files.05:29
ilsaNo, the live cd just *worked*.05:29
Chipparni get W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90705:29
dcraventriandafilos, if you didn't explicitly install it, then you are using totem-gstreamer. Installing totem-xine typically works better.05:29
ilsaThat's why they should move the stuff in the live CD into the install CD.  So the install CD just *works*. ;)05:30
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stuffsanyone there who is incharge of maintaining packages?05:30
ilsaAnd I *could* apt-get, but I hadn't at the time, therefor I had to wait. ;)05:30
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dcravenChipparn, it's because you have an "untrusted" source in your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Comment that out and you won't get that error.05:31
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bestadvocatehehehe kubuntu passed up debian on the one month distrowatch charts05:31
danthemandoes anyone have an example of an xorg.conf from a setup with a single nvidia card that has two monitors hooked to it?05:31
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ilsaShiznit!  X is still stuck in 640x480.05:32
dcravenbestadvocate, yeah, assuming there was no cheating, K/Ubuntu is doing quite well on the charts it seems.05:32
danthemani've installed all the nvidia stuff, but i can't make my xorg.conf enable the second monitor05:32
Druzkiilsa I had a similar problem ... ubuntu probably does not recognize your monitor05:32
dcravenilsa, do you have your monitor refresh rates included in that config file?05:32
ilsaIt's the LCD of my laptop.05:33
danthemando you know how i could make it recognize my second monitor?05:33
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dr_willismy totem dont like mp3's either. :P but it seems to be a permission issue or somthng with the audio devices.05:33
zenroxdantheman,  ask in #nvidia05:33
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danthemanalright05:33
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Druzkiilsa you have to put in 2 numbers in the X graphics config file05:33
Druzkithat match the capabilities of your monitor05:33
stuffszenrox, you gotta get libmad05:33
omegHey guys. I was wondering if you could help me with my freshly installed Ubuntu for x86 which I can't use because the X driver can't seem to load.05:33
ilsaIt's detected as a "generic monitor".  Single resolution: 1024x768.05:34
dr_willisdantheman,  thers 2 ways to do it. YOu can use the xcinerima features or you can use the nvidia 'method' ive only used xcinerama myself.05:34
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ilsaI'm not seeing anything related to the refresh rates.05:34
dcravenilsa, like Druzki said, look for the lines including the words "HorizSync" and "VertRefresh" in the xorg.conf file.05:34
danthemanhow do you use xcinerama?05:34
dcellAnyone have any ideas why swap is not working?  I looked in /etc/fstab and there is a swap partition, CONFIG_SWAP = Y (.config).  However, swapon -a says that the swap partition is an invalid argument.05:34
omegSomeone told me to edit xorg.conf but when I tried it, apparently the file did not exist.05:35
Druzkiilsa ... do you know what that config file was named ... tell me so i can look at mine and tell you :)05:35
dr_willisxcinerams lets you have one huge desktop. :P05:35
Chipparnwhen i try to run apt-get update i get could not open lockfile /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 access denied)05:35
sigsudo05:35
dr_willisor at least thats how I used it.05:35
dcravenilsa, if they are not present, lookup your monitor specs online or in your manual and we'll put those lines in there. That's likely your problem.05:35
sigChipparn: sudo05:35
stuffsdr_wukkus, you gotta get libmad05:35
danthemanalright, i'll take a look05:35
ilsaThere are no entries at all for the refresh rates.05:35
ilsaI'm running the dpkg-reconfigure now.05:35
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Chipparnah05:35
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ilsaDo I want to use kernel framebuffer device interface?05:36
omegAnyway, my X won't load and I _suspect_ that it's because I set the driver to "ati" rather than "vesa". Even though I have an ATi Mobility Radeon 9800... so does anybody know how I manually change this? I don't want to have to fresh install over this. :p05:36
sigare breezy repositories unstable or stable ?05:36
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whiteknightsig, unstable!05:37
thenuke:)05:37
dcravenomeg, open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf. It is probably in there.05:37
Grim76_WorkHas anyone gotten the openoffice.org2 files to install on their ubuntu install?05:37
omegdcraven: someone told me to do that. I used "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" but it was a blank edit screen--and at the bottom of the screen it said "[ new file ] ".05:37
triandafilos_ver05:38
triandafilos_Movie Player using GStreamer version 0.8.705:38
dcravenomeg, did you upgrade from Warty? Or was it a fresh install?05:38
omegFresh install. I formated to Ext3.05:38
omegThis is actually my first time ever using Linux. :p05:38
omegI've generally been using Microsoft products. Starting with MS-DOS 1.00 back in... I believe 1986.05:39
ilsaStupid mushroom licking...05:39
dcravenomeg, oh my... I'm sure it's there then. Look at the files listed when you do this "ls /etc/X11". There has to be a xorg.conf file.05:39
liableilsa: blue ones?05:39
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ilsaall of them!05:39
omegI want to eventually switch to Mac OS X, but I want Linux to replace my non-business system.05:39
dcravenomeg, you're in for alot of fun if you're up for it :)05:39
omegdcraven: I'll try that. Thanks.05:39
maxencehi05:40
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omegYeah, I'm sure. I tried the Live CD before, and Linux looks good. =)05:40
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dr_willislooks! bah! :P05:40
dcravenomeg, it has it's merits ;)05:40
triandafilos_why doesn't ubuntu need antivirus software?05:40
dr_willistriandafilos,  in general LINUX dosent need it05:40
bretzelQ: Which is the BEST IRC client progam ? I am using xchat but I like those silly emoticons :-)05:40
omegWell, I haven't been able to thoroughly investigate yet. =p05:41
maxencexchat05:41
rijihi! where do i get the codecs for totem?05:41
dr_willisit boils down to  the core of how the os is designed.05:41
dcraventriandafilos, nobody writes viruses (often) for Linux.05:41
bretzelxchat lacks this05:41
triandafilos_sorry if i sound like an ideet!!05:41
dcraventriandafilos, in time you'll need to run one though.05:41
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ilsaI'm going to try xorgconfig and choose the vesa driver.05:41
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dr_willisbretzel,  emoticons?  ive never seen those in irc.. just lame Yahoo messenger and stuff05:41
liabledr_willis: and hopefully the user05:41
ilsaIt's not like the video on this thing is powerful enough to do anything fancy.05:41
omegI only have one PC so I'll just write all this down on a sticky..05:41
stuffsriji, i think you need libmad05:41
rijicodec plugins for. mpg/avi/wav05:41
stuffsriji, oh nevermind05:41
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Druzkiilsa in the file XF86Config-4 there are two lines called HirzSynch and VertRefresh05:42
rijidamn :(05:42
dcravendr_willis, it really has less to do with design, and more to do with popularity.05:42
bretzeldr_willis: hehehehe sorry forget it :-)05:42
Druzkiyou have to put the correct values for your monitor there05:42
stuffsriji, yea, do you have libmad installed?05:42
rijinope05:42
Druzkiyou have to find the correct values on the net or from your laptops manual (if still present)05:42
ilsaUgh...05:43
dcravenOr guess.05:43
omegOh yeah05:43
stuffsriji, install that shiza05:43
Druzkithat fixed it for me05:43
omegOne quick question: for now, is it possible to set Win XP as the default boot option in GRUB?05:43
Xyrouzomeg: yes05:43
dr_willisomeg,  yes of course its possible. :P05:43
liableomeg: why?????05:43
ilsaIf I have to go so far as to research the physical characteristics of my laptop screen, I'm just gonna toss ubuntu.05:43
dr_williswith linux all things are posible. :P05:43
omegBecause it's got one line that says "setdefault" but it doesn't seem to work.05:43
bretzelokay, I am leaving - I have to do some coding ciao all :-)05:43
omegliable: I am the enemy =)05:43
dr_willisomeg,  grub starts counting at 0, :P you may have that # off by 1.05:44
liableomeg: die05:44
ilsaIf choosing "1024x768@60hz" isn't enough to get things going, then we have a BIG problem.05:44
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Druzkiilsa ... well you do coz ubuntu does not recognize your screen ... i know it is a pain ... it did not recognize mine either05:44
rijidon't have: "MS WMV 8 (win32)"05:44
omegOh, so I have to say "setdefault 1"?05:44
dcravenomeg, it's "default" not "setdefault".05:44
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resiakomeg: You may need to set "default saved" in /boot/grub/menu.lst05:44
liableilsa: whats your prob05:44
dr_willisomeg,  if you want the 2nd entry to be the drfault. :P05:44
resiakomeg: (if you want to use savedefault)05:44
dcravenomeg, and it's already set to 0.05:44
omegAha, okay.05:44
Druzkibut i found the values for my monitor rather easily05:44
membreyaDruzki: thankfully I have an amd64.. I can remove those screen infos :P my system automatically picks it up :D05:45
Druzkiso it may not be as hard as you think05:45
ilsaOk, I managed to make linux cough up a lung.  I gotta reboot.05:45
vessuvius81has anyone setup an ubuntu hoary machine as VPN client using MPPE?05:45
liableilsa: no you dont05:45
omegAnyway, just gonna try it right now. See you in a second~05:45
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Casco_Oschi05:45
Druzkimembreya i have AMD too but it still did not recognize my Sony flatscreen05:45
stuffsriji, are you using xine engine?05:45
Casco_Oscanyone has problems with cups-server in hoary?05:45
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rijinope05:45
membreyaDruzki: amd64? :)05:45
Druzkimembreya yes05:46
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dcravenCasco_Osc, no.05:46
triandafilos_why do you say in time?05:46
membreyahmm then you should just delete it ..according to daniels it autodetects perfectly05:46
rijior.. i don't know.. gute new at this05:46
Casco_Oschmmm05:46
ilsaliable:  I hit alt-ctrl-F1 thru F8 and the computer didn't respond.  Instead of my X window, the screen showed random ASCII characters.  I classified that as 'coughing up a lung'. ;)05:46
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vessuvius81I'm wary to use kernel-patch-mppe if its not listed in apt05:46
Casco_Oscdcravem what printer has you? I have a hpdeskjet 843c and doens't work. In warty it does05:47
rijiI use the gstreamer05:47
Druzkimembreya i should delte XF86 config-4?05:47
dcravenCasco_Osc, Epson CX5400.05:47
membreyano no Druzki just the horiz and vert info05:47
liableilsa: new install is it or whats going on05:47
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ilsaWhat's frustrating me the most is that the Live CD worked fine.  I still had to play with the bit depth, but I didn't have to go through the crap I'm going through now to get the video working ok.05:47
stuffsriji, alright what you wanna do is install totem-xine05:47
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Druzkimembreya ... ahh ...05:48
Casco_Osclpr:error - scheduler not respondig05:48
Casco_Oscand i can't configure the printer.... i ran cupsenable, but nothing05:48
sigI haven't had one update for Hoary since it's been out, has anyone else?05:48
liableilsa: you mean getting a graphical system05:48
membreyasig: nope05:48
dcravenCasco_Osc, is cupd running?05:48
ilsaYes.05:48
rijiand then?05:48
membreyasig: you could always switch to breezy :P05:48
BSDNoobHi, does anyone has expirience with cryptsetup i followed the guide in the wiki but i got command failed "wrong argument" after entering cryptsetup -y create crypt /dev/hdb105:48
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Casco_Oscdcraven, cupd or cups?05:49
sigmembreya: ummm, npe05:49
signope05:49
liableilsa: so you are stuck at the console?05:49
Druzkidoe anyone know if I can get the new version of Ubuntu can be gotten trough the package manager?05:49
sigI stay stable for several reasons05:49
dcravenCasco_Osc, cupsd is the server.05:49
stuffsriji, did you install totem-xine?05:49
rijiyeah05:49
CheeseBalldoes anyone know how i go about backup up my setup so that can basically have a restore disk05:49
stuffsriji, did you try it?05:49
Myrttimembreya: what was the name of the next development branch again? (or "testing")05:49
ilsaOk, I'm trying to boot up and it now tells me 'I cannot start the X server blah blah, would you like to view the log?', and I can't do anything at all.05:49
dcravenCasco_Osc, run "ps aux | grep cups" and you should see  /usr/bin/cupsd if it is running.05:49
ograMyrtti, breezy05:49
rijiyeah, it needs codecs for "MS WMV 8 (win32)"05:50
membreyaMyrtti: breezy05:50
dcravenCasco_Osc, /usr/sbin/cupsd actually.05:50
Myrttiogra: I thought that was the name of the "unstable"05:50
membreyagrumpy is the permanent devel branch aFAIK05:50
ilsaThe system is completely unresponsive, not even the capslock works.05:50
ograMyrtti, but i wouldnt suggest anyone trying to use it before upstream freeze05:50
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ogramembreya, nope05:50
BSDNoobHi, does anyone has expirience with cryptsetup i followed the guide in the wiki but i got command failed "wrong argument" after entering cryptsetup -y create crypt /dev/hdb105:51
ilsaYet somehow when I push the power button it's able to go through the shutdown sequence.  That's bizarre.05:51
ograMyrtti, ubuntu has no "testing/unstable" distinction05:51
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stuffsriji, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo05:51
ograMyrtti, we have a stable (2 now) and a development version05:51
liableilsa: add 'single' to the end of your kernel opton when you boot, you hit 'e' when the grub menu comes up05:52
stuffsriji, im outta here05:52
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Casco_Oscdcraven, he line contains cups, but no /etc/cups. However, it should be fine :)05:52
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rijithx m805:53
dcravenCasco_Osc, cool.05:53
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FreezerXAre there any women in here? :-)05:53
KeizerHowdy guys05:53
TPChello. after prelinking my system dri isn't working anymore. during prelink I got lots of warnings about files that couldn't be prelinked because some library that had to do with opengl (I think) couldn't be prelinked.05:53
KeizerHah05:53
KeizerWomen don't use Linux05:53
FreezerX:-)05:53
Keizer./stereotype05:53
KeizerI thought ipconfig was a Linux command05:53
liableFreezerX: and if there were,??05:53
jel_Keizer: linuxchics.org?05:53
TPCcould I make prelink ignore the xorg modules?05:53
^Yota83^lol05:54
membreyaKeizer: ipconfig is windows :P05:54
jel_chicks, even.  I knew I was spelling that wrong :)05:54
membreyaifconfig is linux05:54
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ilsaFreezerX:  Please don't tell me you came into a linux support channel to pick up women.05:54
jel_is it possible to install hoary with XFS?05:54
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jel_lol05:54
FreezerX:-)05:54
dr_willisA/S/L :P05:54
liablemembreya: ifconfig maybe05:54
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omegNo go, unfortunately.05:54
membreyathat's what I typed liable :P05:54
Keizermembreya, Thank you sir05:54
Keizerhttp://www.korg.com/gear/product_info.asp?a_prod_no=OASYS -- OMG05:55
liablemembreya: what are you doing05:55
omegThere isn't an xorg.conf in /etc/X11. There was an X86Config-4 in that directory, though, and I managed to find the video card data in there. I had just edited it, but it wouldn't let me save it! =P05:55
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KeizerThat new keyboard runs Linux!05:55
dcravenomeg, be root. Use sudo.05:55
dr_willisKeizer,  i thinki saw that on slashdot months ago.05:55
dr_willis:P05:55
CheeseBallhow do i back up my whole system05:56
CheeseBallany rec. programs?05:56
[nrx] CheeseBall, tar?05:56
CheeseBalli tryed that and got an error05:56
Keizerdr_willis, I haven't been to Slashdot in age05:56
KeizerI dare not go there05:56
omeg[17:55]  <dcraven> omeg, be root. Use sudo. <-- Using "sudo /etc/X11/X86Config-4" will allow me to edit it without restrictions?05:56
CheeseBalli want to ess. make a restore disk05:56
KeizerIt will steal my entire day05:56
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omegOr is sudo something else?05:56
ncpCheeseBall: you can make a bash file that does the whole thing05:56
membreyaKeizer: korg can run my world anyday :D05:56
nanomadis it safe to go to breeze? or there are IMPORTANT broken pkgs?05:56
dr_willisCheeseBall,  ive used 'mondo/mindi' in the past to make complete cd-image restore sets.05:56
KeizereSound stole my ALSA05:56
jel_Keizer: Korg are using Linux?  Very cool.  I thought you were talking about a souped up typewriter for a sec...05:56
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vessuvius81anyone use kernel-patch-mppe for vpn?05:56
ilsaliable:  Ok, I've done as you said, and I've got a prompt now.05:56
KeizerHah05:57
KeizerI want to get that keyboard05:57
ilsaWhere does xorg put it's xserver log?05:57
omegI like the prompt. Reminds me of the old MS-DOS days...05:57
dcravenomeg, it will if you open it in an editor. Like "sudo nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4".05:57
omegAha.05:57
membreyailsa: /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:57
jel_question is though: can you hook it up to a network or serial port and update the kernel etc.?05:57
omegI'll go try that now.05:57
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ilsaWOW!  That's an impressive amount of gobble-de-gook!05:58
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dcravenpromethe, it's pretty neat.05:58
jel_is it possible to use sudo but have it prompt for a root password, or does that make no sense at all?05:58
membreyais that the technical term ilsa ?:P05:58
[nrx] jel_ makes no sense ;p05:58
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membreyajel_: by default sudo will ask for your password05:58
membreyayou can get around that though05:58
dcravenjel_, if you want a root shell, try "sudo -s".05:58
ilsaOf course! :)05:58
[nrx] dcraven, or sudo /bin/bash05:59
promethedcraven I like it, it looks insane, and I've got nvidia 6800GT so I think it will work pretty well :] 05:59
dcraven[nrx] , there are many ways.05:59
jel_dcraven: no, I like the idea of sudo, but I also like the idea of a second security layer, you know?05:59
dcravenpromethe, more than likely.05:59
jel_membreya: ahh, ok, thanks.05:59
ilsaNo core pointer.  Huh.05:59
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ilsaI hope to god that means it couldn't find the mouse dev, and not that someone screwed up their C code.06:00
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dcravenilsa, I sure am glad you backed that file up prior to editing it the first time.06:00
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jel_ilsa: yes, no main mouse.06:00
prometheI love ubuntu, it's first linux distro which I like :] 06:00
PacoBCNpromethe, you're not the only one06:00
promethe:] 06:00
ilsaWhat's the /dev file for the mouse?06:01
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[nrx] try /dev/mouse06:01
jel_Debian's been serving me nicely for years, but Ubuntu might be that little bit better :)06:01
nanomad/dev/psaux06:01
agenteohi, I've looked at the Ubuntu life cd... I was wondering how it uses the ramdisk... and if it does cause I've checked in mount but I've not find it06:01
nanomador /dev/imput/mice06:01
jel_ilsa: /dev/input/mice for usb06:01
[nrx] er input, yeah06:01
[nrx] lol06:01
FreezerX/dev/mice? for usb.mouse?06:01
prometheI like it becouse it isn't so idiot-friendly as Fedora, it havent thousands of wizards like Mandrake and it's more userfriendly than Gentoo06:02
ilsaI've got a USB mouse and the touchpad.  Will they both work through the /dev/input/mice?06:02
dcravencens0red, because they are both sorta aimed at new users.06:02
prometheFew wizards for most important things as printers, fonts, etc06:02
jel_ilsa: yep06:02
nanomaddunno the touchpad06:02
prometheAs it should be06:02
cens0reddcraven that would explain any similarities, but not the differences.06:02
dcravencens0red, I hear ya, but that is how reviewers see it.06:03
[nrx] touchpad usually comes under /dev/psaux06:03
prometheIs there any Pole, if yes, please msg me priv :] 06:03
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jel_ilsa: actually, yes, it depends on the mouse driver.  Works on PPC iBooks, since I think they use a USB driver for the touchpad06:03
ilsaCrap.  I can't remember... Do I have to change the runlevel to 3 for X to start up?06:03
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jel_Does ubuntu use runlevels?  Debian doesn't.06:04
PacoBCNI just wish there was a package for getting rid of the damn flu!!!06:04
dcravenilsa, I typically use "/etc/init.d/gdm start".06:04
prometheOh, one question. I'm going to buy used 14 inch ibook with 1,33 GHz G4. Will Ubuntu work smothly with this?06:04
jel_PacoBCN: Doom :)06:04
cens0redanyone else had any experience with mandrake? I'm looking for an ubuntu equivelant to $urpmf06:04
PacoBCNjel_, hehe06:04
ilsadcraven: That's easier. :)06:04
nanomadapt-cache search??06:04
dcravencens0red, years ago.06:04
ilsaHoly crap it's up!  At the right resolution even!06:04
dcravenilsa, congrats!06:04
ilsaOf course, it's using the VESA driver so it probably runs like crap...06:04
jel_good job, ilsa :)06:05
dazed|sleepsmornin all06:05
dcravencens0red, what does urpmf do?06:05
ilsaLet's find out...06:05
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jel_my new ubuntu machine just finished installing too :)06:05
MajestiKtheine_: breezy fixed that problem I had yesterday..06:05
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cens0rednanomad that finds packages nicely. But it doesn't search for individuals files in packages. The nearest equivelant is debian's $apt-file, but that doesn't seem to be implemented in ubuntu.06:05
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dcravendazed, did you get the lockups fixed dude?06:05
PacoBCNI've found out after I use Evolution and close the gui there is about 100Mb in ram still used by Evol. Server06:05
prometheMajestiK,  breezy is already in development?06:05
ilsaOk, now where'd the pretty bell sounds go?06:05
PacoBCNwtf...06:05
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neofeedokay - what am I going to do? Gnome just told me: ES.UTF8 or something like that does not exist.06:05
dazeddcraven: im actually have an up time of 15 hours fingers sitll crossed :)06:06
dcravendazed, coolio.06:06
neofeedAnd therfore it's not going to give me Gnome in Espanl06:06
ilsaMaybe I should just reboot.  I think most of the daemons didn't run cause I started in single mode.06:06
dazedyeah06:06
cens0reddcraven, suppose you're looking for an uninstalled file called "foo.h". $urpmf foo.h will tell you what package you need to install to get that file.06:06
MajestiKpromethe: sorta.. there's some updated stuff in breezy now06:06
prometheMajestiK Any avalible respository now?06:06
jel_dazed: what kind of lockups?  My new kubuntu install just locked up too.  But the AGP on this mobo has some issues.06:06
dcravencens0red, ahh.. That's actually a good question.06:06
cuscohi06:06
MajestiKpromethe: however, I just updated my kernel, and now my machine won't boot.. so.. it might not be a good idea yet06:06
jel_cens0red: apt-file06:07
cens0reddcraven according the apt howto, apt-file search is the tool for that. But it's not implemented in ubuntu alas.06:07
MajestiKpromethe: I think so.. I just did a s/hoary/breezy/g in my sources.list that came with the standard install06:07
cuscodo I have a smpt server listening n port 25 by default?06:07
dazedjel_: i think it was agp its a kinda old mother board disabled a bunch o stuff and so far so good...lock ups that would lock out an ssh client aswell complete freeeze06:07
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dcravencens0red, apt-get install apt-file ;P06:07
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jel_dazed: did you do something to fix it?06:07
cens0reddcraven oh ok. That I'll do. :)06:08
dazedjel_: i did a couple things06:08
dazedjel_: first booted with noapic...then i did soomething suggested by someone on my forum post06:08
whiteknightdazed, hey so noapic worked?06:08
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mr_clarkHey guys. I just installed Kubuntu on an IBM A50 Thinkcentre PC. The PC runs fine for a while and then starts freezing up. When this happens I get to a console and the time starts randomly changing back and forth a few seconds at a time. I've searched everywhere and it seems that a lot of people are having this issue with the Thinkcentres.06:08
mr_clarkAny ideas on how to fix this?06:08
dcravendazed, did the forum folks answer your question in sufficient time? heh06:08
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Paradiossinahello everybody. does anybody know if x-window-system-dev is needed to install mplayer?06:09
dazedwhiteknight: not sure if it was noapic or if it was "( 01:56 - IRS 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization.  We're having our06:09
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cens0reddcraven solved. better than a bought one.06:09
dazed( 01:56 - for more information.  Thanks.06:09
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dazed( 01:56 End of /MOTD command.06:09
ilsaYay!  Thanks all, I think this bloody thing is finally running. :)06:09
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jhdoandoes anyone know if i could use KDE on Unbuntos ?06:09
dazed( 01:56 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>06:09
dcravencens0red, cool ;)06:09
dazed( 01:57 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#fluxbox]  check the topic06:09
dazed( 01:57 Mode change [+i]  for user dazed06:09
Fazerdazed: WTF?06:09
dazed( 01:57 Irssi: Unknown command: NETWORK06:09
dazed( 01:57 Irssi: Ircnet Freenode saved06:09
dazed[(status)] 06:09
ilsaFirst thing's first... Enabled the BSOD screensaver. :)06:09
dazedi apologize06:09
dazedwrong paste06:09
dazedwoah06:10
triandafilos__why is it when i minimise a windows i cant get it back up.. also tried alt tab to no avail.06:10
aimazI just installed ubuntu and wish to share my cache of .debs with friends who will install ubuntu as using the local network will be much faster for them, what is the best way to do this?06:10
dazedsorry all06:10
jel_what's recovery mode?06:10
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dazedbut it was either noapic or "sudo update-rc.d -f apmd remove" i did both on same boot06:10
dcravendazed, damn middle click. hehe06:10
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Fazercan anyone tell me why there's no USB enabled on my thinkpad when I boot into LIve CD?06:10
dcraventriandafilos, is this in GNOME?06:10
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triandafilos__from the foot print main menu..06:11
dazeddamn i got class in like an hour in a half06:11
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dazednot looking forward to it06:11
whiteknightdazed, maybe both, who knows! thats the great thing about linux, you never know who you fixed something06:11
omegWooh.06:11
omegI'm on Linux right now.06:11
whiteknightdazed, *how06:11
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prometheHas anybody installed newest Luminocity on Ubuntu? If yes, msg priv me please :] 06:11
omegThere's just one thing, though...06:11
omegDoesn't Gnome support 1920x1200?06:12
dcravenFazer, hmm.. That's weird. Is the usbcore module loaded? I know nothing of the LiveCD to be honest.06:12
prometheomeg Ubuntu support all resolutions06:12
dazedwhiteknight: very true my man very true06:12
omegI've not been able to choose 1920x1200 during start-up.06:12
jel_omeg: that has to do with X, not GNOME, but yes.06:12
prometheomeg it depends only from your graphic card and monit06:12
dazedim just waiting for it to go though06:12
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prometheomeg edit your xorg.conf06:12
ilsaHmmm... Is it even worth trying to use any of the GL extensions with the Vesa server?06:12
omegWell, I've always used 1920x1200 on XP.06:12
omegOkay.06:12
omegI'll try that.06:12
prometheomeg need help?06:12
omegIf you could point me to the text editor, that'd be great. =)06:13
jel_omeg: nano06:13
whiteknightdazed, remember when things work on linux they will continue to work, so you could be in for a long wait :)06:13
omegAha.06:13
omegGedit06:13
dazeddoes everyones samba network work fine for them on hoary?06:13
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prometheomeg just do in terminal "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"06:13
Fazerdcraven: Hmm, i don't know how to disable the legacy support for USB06:13
Fazeror whatever the fuck that means06:13
jel_dazed: in that it stays the hell off my network?  Yep :)06:13
dazedwhiteknight: i hope :)06:13
dcravenpromethe, have a look at this thread to help you get luminocity to work --> http://tinyurl.com/6bwdy06:13
omegAlright, I'll try the terminal.06:13
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ilsaMy Samba seems to be working fine OOTB.06:14
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dazedjel_: lol...well considering my nfs never worked on either hoary or warty im using samba06:14
Spughow can i find out what partition is my swap? sudo fdisk -l doesn't come up with any partitions labeled "swap"06:14
Fazercan anyone help me why my USB mouse nor my USB mp3 player won't work ( its a removable hard drive06:14
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graabeinhi. i'm still having problems with my nvidia geforce6600gt... glxinfo gives me segmentation fault???06:14
liableSpug: what does it come up with06:15
Spug   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System06:15
Spug/dev/hda1   *           1        7169     3613144+  83  Linux06:15
Spug/dev/hda2            7170       77117    35253792   83  Linux06:15
Spug/dev/hda3           77118       77622      254520   83  Linux06:15
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graabeinwhere do i find out why glx info gives me segmentation fault (and nothing else)06:15
graabeinglxinfo06:16
Spugi guess hda3 is? but it doesn't say.06:16
spadesSpug: : df -h06:16
spadesi think /dev/shm is swap06:16
liableSpug: you dont have a swap partition then06:16
Spugi am supposed to06:16
liableSpug: swap is 8206:16
Spughmm06:16
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dcravenSpug, "sudo fdisk /dev/hda", then choose "p" to print the partition table and "q" to quit. Don't do anything silly while in there.06:16
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Fazerhello?06:17
goldfishhi06:17
graabeinyo!06:17
Fazergoldfish: DO you know why I can't get my USB port to work on my Thinkpad with the live CD?06:17
dcravenHi Fazer.06:17
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triandafilos_i worked it out... yes06:17
goldfishFazer: no idea.06:17
Spugtheeen i guess i don't have a swap partition :/06:17
Fazeri don't think the installation won't do much because during the install, my USB mouse won't work06:17
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Sionideeek06:17
Fazer(it isn't on)06:17
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ilsashm is shared memory.06:18
goldfishget a new mouse? :)06:18
goldfishoh right06:18
Fazergoldfish: UHm...USB just doesn't work in Ubuntu06:18
goldfishthe usb port06:18
dcravenFazer, you in the LiveCD right now?06:18
jhdoanhow can i get my mouse to use all it's button functions and my keyboard also ?06:18
Fazerdcraven: I am about to go into the LiveCD on my laptop, rightn ow, I am no desktop.06:18
ilsaUSB worked perfect for me.06:18
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Spughaha, okay. i think i maybe mixed up during the partitioning:06:18
SpugFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on06:19
Spug/dev/hda1             3.4G  2.1G  1.2G  64% /06:19
Spugtmpfs                  62M     0   62M   0% /dev/shm06:19
Spug/dev/hda2              34G   13G   19G  41% /home06:19
Fazerilsa: because you odn't have a crapass thinkpad06:19
Spugnone                  5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  55% /dev06:19
Spugtwo /devs06:19
dcravenSpug, did you look in fdisk?06:19
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ilsaFazer:  I didn't want to say anything about that. :D06:19
Fazerilsa: Good ;)06:19
Mitariohello everyone06:19
Spugyes, no 82s there06:19
dcravenhi06:19
Mitariodoes any know of any program which can inteprate/compile pascal?06:19
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liableSpug: you have /home and /06:20
dcravenSpug, well unless you have another drive, I'd say you're swapless.06:20
jel_sigh  OK, the live CD worked fine with framebuffer.  But after installing a Geforce 1 card (known to work) and installing kubuntu to HD, it's locking up early in X.  Will it work if I just set the xorg driver to svga instead of nv?   It doesn't seem to be using a framebuffer at the console.06:20
ilsaI have a copy of Turbo Pascal 1.0 floating around somewhere... ;)06:20
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Cybo-Mobileneed OO printing help06:20
chazwurthMitario: gpc is showing up in Synaptic; I've never written in Pascal or used gpc though, so I have no idea if it works or is any good.06:21
dcravenMitario, gpc.06:21
Cybo-MobileI am using cups, print to a jetdirect, cups prints fine.  spadmin test prints fine.  OO docs will not print,06:21
membreyajel_: try commenting out your renderaccel option from your xorg.conf06:21
Spugso i am swapless and have two /dev. i guess that mean i managed to create an own /dev during partitioning instead of swap or something? or is it supposed to be like that?06:21
jel_membreya: ok, thanks.06:21
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Cybo-Mobileoh, ya, running ubunto6406:22
Fazerdcraven: so its booting up the livecd.06:22
InitMassanyone having a working battery status in Torsmo?06:22
Mitariochazwurth, dcraven: thanks06:22
chazwurthMitario: np06:22
dcravenMitario, anytime.06:22
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Cybo-Mobilehowdy RuffianSoldier06:22
Fazerpreparing for a live session now06:22
aimazSpug, when you do `top` what does it say about swap in there?06:23
dcravenSpug, I don't even know what you are saying.06:23
Fazeri have the PS/2 mouse plugged instead06:23
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Spugdcraven: if you look at my df -h up there, it has two /dev. one mounted at /dev, and one at /.dev.06:23
dcravenSpug, "free" will tell you how much swap you have too.06:23
Cybo-Mobileso why will not Open office just print, I have not had to play with spadmin in over two years in debian?06:23
dcravenSpug, so do I.06:23
Spugokay.06:24
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dcravenSpug, that's just Linux doin' its thing.06:24
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omegHmm.06:24
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tbird_workdf -h will not show swap06:24
Fazerquestion, if i have a ps/2 mouse plugged in, wehat would happen if i plug in the USB mouse06:24
Spugboth top and free indicate a swap: Swap:       254512     127900     12661206:24
omegUnfortunately, it didn't work!06:24
cuscohi... I have something running on port 25.. being:06:24
cuscoroot@ubuntu:/home/cusco # lsof -i :2506:24
cuscoCOMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME06:24
cuscomaster  7266 root   12u  IPv4  10757       TCP localhost.localdomain:smtp (LISTEN)06:24
cuscomaster  7266 root   13u  IPv6  10758       TCP [::1] :smtp (LISTEN)06:24
Cybo-MobileFazer, nothing06:24
cuscothis is a mail server, right?06:24
tbird_workjust do a cfdisk and see if there is a swap partition06:24
FazerCybo-Mobile: NOthing what?06:24
dcravenCybo-Mobile, is that printer the "default" printer? I am just shootin' in the dark here as I don't use OO.06:24
jean91 /SERVER freenode06:24
ilsaI don't understand thing sudo thing.  What happened to root?06:25
Cybo-MobileFazer question, if i have a ps/2 mouse plugged in, wehat would happen if i plug in the USB mouse06:25
jel_ok, that's sorted for now.  But my monitor is old, and doesn't come back on after DPMS suspend.  Can I disable that?06:25
FazerCybo-Mobile: Which mouse would work?06:25
Cybo-Mobiledcraven, yes used gnome cups manager, prints fine06:25
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Fazeryay, i have the LIVeCD booted up now06:25
Cybo-MobileFazer, the one you have in xorg.conf06:26
dcravenCybo-Mobile, the OO printing problem sounds familiar to me. Have you checked the wiki/forums?06:26
Cybo-MobileFazer, a trick to use is to plug both in at install time, that way both or either will work06:26
FazerCybo-Mobile: Can you help me tell me why USB isn't working with Ubuntu06:26
Sionideubuntu ubuntu, they drink it in the jungle06:26
Sionideanyone listen to LugRadio here?06:26
Spugboth free and top indicate a swap, but i can't see a swap in fdisk.06:26
Cybo-Mobiledcraven, no, did a quick web search for oo and printer setup06:26
Sionidethey played the funniest Ubuntu trailer ever last episode, it was great!06:27
Cybo-Mobilefazer how do you know usb is not working06:27
dazeddamn i wish i could remember my server pw06:27
FazerCybo-Mobile: USB mouse and other USB devices don't work ( can get power but no functionality)06:27
Cybo-Mobilefazer do as root:  tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug in the usb mouse06:27
promethehow can I login do gnome cvs server to download luminocity?06:27
Fazercybersystem: okay06:27
Fazer* Cybo-Mobile06:27
ograCybo-Mobile, no need for root here :)06:27
omegI still can't seem to set a resolution manually, it seems.06:27
Cybo-Mobileorga I have found that sudo does not alway work, but as long as the concept is understood...06:28
jel_ubuntu defaults to Unicode everywhere?   Very nice :)06:28
Fazerokay i got some shit.06:28
dcravenpromethe, cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome login06:28
ograCybo-Mobile, also no need for sudo to read a logfile in ubuntu ;)06:28
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FazerCybo-Mobile: "usb 1-1: New low speed USB device using ubci_hcd and address 4"06:28
Cybo-Mobileogra, now that is news to me06:29
Fazerthen I get some of this:06:29
Fazer"khubd timed out on ep0in"06:29
ograCybo-Mobile, try it :)06:29
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Fazer"device not accepding address 4, error -110"06:29
dcravenpromethe, I suggest using jhbuild to build luminocity though.06:29
Cybo-MobileFazer  your usb seems to be working06:29
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_ac_chan_hello06:29
ograCybo-Mobile, the default user is in the adm group, that is allowed to read the logs06:29
FazerCybo-Mobile: So, should I try with my USB mp3 player (removable hard drive) then?06:29
graabeinwhere do i find out why glxinfo gives me segmentation fault (and nothing else)06:29
promethedcraven but I can't login thru it to server to download it06:29
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promethedcraven i havn't got login06:30
Cybo-Mobilefazer yes, why not, eliminate the usb port at least06:30
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j-dhello06:30
dcravenpromethe, oh. Then do what I said up there first.06:30
FazerCybo-Mobile: SO I can get the drivers in for my wifi card? Ethernet just won't work, eventhough the lights blink and shit and I can get IP address, i can't access anything.06:30
Cybo-Mobileorga, forgot that.  In Debian, I never set admin to a user06:30
_ac_chan_i am using apt-get  it keeps on asking for cd..  is there a way of by passing searching for a cd06:30
dcravenpromethe, cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@anoncvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome login06:30
j-dcould someone tell me, why my amarok doesn't work?06:30
Cybo-Mobilefazer what card?06:30
j-di alreade installed gstreamer-mad, but it says, it is in use..06:31
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FazerCybo-Mobile: So, now I get this: "New full sppeed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 9"06:31
Cybo-Mobile_ac_chan open synaptic, go to preferences, set repositories, uncheck cd06:31
dazedCybo-Mobile: not necissarilly, his usb port can get power all it wants but if its not properly working his mouse wont work...my usb port works for only my mouse but not removeable storeage06:31
FazerCybo-Mobile: "khubd timed out on ep0in and also on ep0out"06:31
dcraven_ac_chan_, you can remove the CDROM source through synaptic or via editing /etc/apt/sources.list I beleive.06:31
FazerCybo-Mobile: "Dvice not accpeting adres s9, error -110"06:32
Fazer*address 8906:32
Fazer**address 906:32
_ac_chan_tanks06:32
Cybo-Mobilefazer I don't know what that means06:32
_ac_chan_thanks..06:32
FazerCybo-Mobile: So, what should I do....06:32
Fazerthe wlan card is a microsoft mn 72006:32
Fazerthat doesn't work, period.06:32
Fazerso I found a few good drivers through ndiswrapper06:32
dcravenMicrosoft makes Wifi cards?06:32
Fazeri bout the ndiswrapper-utls.deb and the driver on my usb drive06:32
Fazerdcraven: And other hardware such as routers and keuyboard/mice06:33
dazedFazer: wlan is a lil more complicated process06:33
Cybo-Mobilephone06:33
Fazerdazed: I can tell.06:33
dazedFazer: and if its from microsoft im not 100% sure it iwll work06:33
dcravenFazer, I knew about the keyboards/mice.. They're nice.06:33
ograFazer, ndiswrapper and friends are on the ubuntu CD06:33
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Fazerdazed: I have heard of  others getting to work.06:33
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Fazer"ndiswrapper: command not found"06:33
dcravenI needed to compile my own ndiswrapper in order to get my chipset to work.06:33
ograFazer, ndiswrapper is in the linux-restricted-modules package....06:33
ograFazer, ndiswrapper-utils has its own .deb06:34
Fazerogra: So...but I still need the *.inf driver I ahve in my USB keyboard.06:34
onkarshindeThanks Ubuntu developers, Hoary is quite fast than warty.06:34
dazedi really didnt know ms put out a wifi card06:34
Fazerogra: Keep in mind I have no internet on my thinkpad.06:34
Fazerdazed: Its based on broadcom06:34
ograFazer, but the cd around and a usb stick with the inf ?06:34
Fazerogra: What?06:34
membreyawhat's the command to check what version of QT you have installed?06:34
dazedfazer: u need to dl ndiswrapper then read the wiki on how to get wifi cards to work06:34
Fazerogra: I am on the Live CD06:34
ograFazer, oh06:34
Fazerdazed: yes, I did that.06:34
dcravenFazer, ahh.. Well the good news is that my Wifi card is also a Broadcom and I'm on it right now.06:34
Fazerdazed :I have been doing that since yesterday.06:35
ograFazer, try to install the aforementioned packages then06:35
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Fazerdcraven: What would work for me is to get my USB drive working.06:35
FazerBut no USB devices really workk.06:35
FazerI get timeout errors.06:35
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promethedcraven It dies when it want to connect there anoncvs.gnome.org06:35
ilsaAnyone have a cattleprod?  I think I need one used on me.06:35
dcravenpromethe, dies?06:35
prometheIt says then blank password is bad password06:35
jel_kubuntu is still turning off my screen during login (the "initialising peripherals" stage).  Anyone know what's going on there?06:35
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Fazersooo...06:36
Fazerwhat shall I do?06:36
ilsaFor the hell of it I went through dpkg-reconfigure again, and this time chose "Advanced" for the screen refresh rates.  I just took the defaults and everything works fine using the proper video driver (non vesa)06:36
dcravenpromethe, you just pressed enter when it asked for a password right?06:36
prometheYeah06:36
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dcravenpromethe, I just did it right this second and it worked fine dude.06:37
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dazedFazer: so if you had been doing that where are u stuck?06:37
Fazerdazed: Getting internet to work atleast?06:37
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promethedcraven I'm talking about jhbuild all the time, not cvs... Cvs works fine, but jhbuild don't want work06:38
dazedFazer: goto your network admin tool see if wlan0 is on teh list06:38
dcravenpromethe, ahh.. hehe.06:38
Fazerdazed: the lights won't even go on06:38
FazerSo now, I plugged in the ethernet card in06:38
Fazerthe lights go on06:38
Fazeri can see it blink and shit..06:38
agenteosomeone can explain me where does the Ramdisk icon I see in the ubuntu live cd come from?06:39
dcravenpromethe, that actually happened to me as well... You are having difficulties with the fdo cvs server right?06:39
dazedFazer: the lights not coming on means your going to have to do some reading...06:39
promethedcraven right06:39
Fazerdazed: NO no, the lights DO come on06:39
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dcravenpromethe, it fixed itself eventually.06:39
dazedFazer: your wifi card lights come on?06:39
Fazerdazed: No, froget wifi for now, lets try ethernet.06:40
Fazerthe ethernet card's lights go on.06:40
dazedFazer: and theres connectivity? like the transfer light blinks?06:40
Fazerdazed: seems so06:40
dazedFazer: ohh ok were on eth006:40
Fazerdazed: ON it alrready, its activating the ijnterface06:40
Fazergod i hate this fucking keyboard06:40
Fazeranyways...06:40
Fazerits still activating via DHCP06:40
dazedFazer: well linux normally lets eth0 work otb goto network-admin tool and click on eth0 and properties06:41
Fazerthere we go its active.06:41
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dazedFazer: thats good let it activate06:41
Fazerdazed: Its active and al, i was doing this last night.06:41
dazedok so its active...did u set default gateway to eth0?06:41
FazerI log in to the router, i see it connected via DHCP without a hostame (its blank)06:41
Fazerdoing so now.06:41
dazedyou can log into router ip? can you ping www.google.com?06:42
triandafilos_..dcraven.. is installing software done the same way as ms products?06:42
Fazerdazed: negative.06:42
Fazerdazed: i ping, but nothing happens, iot takes a LOOOOONNNG TIMe06:42
dcraventriandafilos, no.06:42
dazedcan you ping router ip?06:42
Fazerdazed: Eh...how do I get the router iP?06:42
Fazerooh wait06:42
dcraventriandafilos, what are you looking to install?06:42
Fazeri get it.06:42
Fazer192.168.2.106:42
dazedFazer: i thought you said you just logged into router06:42
triandafilos_how do i go about installing azureus?06:42
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dazedthat looks right06:42
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Fazerdazed: Sorry, I am a little dazed ;)06:42
triandafilos_any idea?06:43
SeamusLPtriandafilos:  Have you searched for it in synaptic?06:43
dazedFazer: me too :) but did that work?06:43
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Fazerdazed: Nope, it says "Destination host Unreachable and after wards, I get ping time ranging around 1431 ms"06:43
Seveasanyone here running maya?06:43
Fazernow it isn't doing anything.06:43
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triandafilosnope but i downloaded it06:44
triandafilosi think06:44
Fazerping times are HUuge06:44
Fazerwtf...06:44
promethedcraven hold on, I changed server and it seems, then it will work06:44
Fazerdazed: same thing was happening when I was plugged in directly to the cable modem.06:44
dazeddoes it return a ping though Fazer?06:44
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Fazerdazed: seems like it.06:44
Fazerbut huge...06:44
Fazerand it doesn't update in a while.06:44
dazedpthats good06:44
triandafilosi'll check synaptic06:45
dazedthats a good sign06:45
SeamusLPtriandafilos:  Software in ubuntu linux is installed through the apt package management system06:45
Fazerdazed: heh, alright, but...it doesn't seem to be working properly?06:45
dazedwhat sort of ping times are u looking at?06:45
Fazerdazed: Also note that during the actual installation, it won't connect to the DHCP.06:45
Fazerdazed: mroe than 10k MS06:45
Fazerlike 10000+ MS06:45
promethedcraven work06:45
dazedFazer: i understand but it seems more liek a bandwith/cable modem provider issue more than a linux issue06:45
dcravenpromethe, coo.06:45
dcravenpromethe, cool even.06:45
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Fazerdazed: haha, no...i am on my desktop as we speak.06:46
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Fazerand its ocnnected to the same router.06:46
dazedim starting to ping 21113 on my 56k06:46
promethefuck06:46
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prometheoutput.c:1499: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type06:46
Fazerdazed: but it takes a long ass time to ping anything besides the router?06:46
dazedso 10kms is just a bandwith issue06:46
dazedits working though06:46
Fazerdazed: But the Live CD was fine on my desktop?06:47
Fazeri am pretty sure its an ethernet card issue.06:47
triandafiloshey i installed via synaptec installer is called bittotrrent?06:47
Fazerwaoh shit06:47
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Fazernow its more than 20,000 MS06:47
ilsaDamn you linux and all your pretty screensavers... Now I'll never get any work done!06:47
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R1CH4RDalguien habla espaol?06:48
SeamusLPtriandafilos:  bittorrent and bittorrent-gui is the official client I believe06:48
dazedFazer: ....try in a couple of hours if it doesnt come down then you have something to worry bout but im set on that i hate cable and its their fault06:48
dazedim pretty sure its just a cable issu06:48
dazede06:49
triandafilosbut i cant find it in the menu..06:49
Fazerdazed: But the livecd on the desktop works fine!06:49
Fazerso it has to be the ethernet issue.....right?06:49
dazedFazer: you put livecd in RIGHT NOW and do the same ping and tell me it works fine then its an eth0 issue06:49
SeamusLPtriandafilos:  Well gnome-bittorrent is in the menu in internet-> applications06:49
Fazerdazed: but, do I have to do that?06:49
dazedim just saying at this point in time...cable is prolly being lagged up by some people06:49
Fazerdazed: I only have one live cd, and the otherl ive cd is warty...06:50
Fazerdazed: but...i am using it at the samse time!06:50
Fazerthat's how I am talking to you now!06:50
dazed...hmmm06:50
Fazerand teh ping here is fine06:50
triandafilosnot there.. what am i doing wrong?06:50
dazedyour on 2 seperate desktops06:50
dazedgotcha06:50
SeamusLPtriandafilos:  Are you using warty or hoary?06:50
Fazerdazed: yeah, but one is a laptop.06:50
Fazerdazed: I am on the desktop.06:50
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Fazerdazed: And we are both connected to the same router.06:51
dazedit really has no signs pointing to eth0 issue .... cuz if it can ping something...thats all the eth0 does is transfer data has nothing to do with ping times06:51
triandafiloshow do i check?06:51
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SeamusLPsystem -> about ubuntu06:51
Fazerdazed: so I guess its a driver issue?06:51
dazedFazer: im thinking now...u got me going .. ^-06:51
Fazerdazed: Hehe06:51
dazedit could be a driver issue06:51
Fazergreat and the cd has a linux folder, but the instructions are no where and I allse are .c and .h files and shit.06:52
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triandafiloswhats the difference btw warty and hoary?06:52
dazedFazer: yeah i dunno about linux drivers lol06:52
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Fazerdazed: damn.06:52
dazedFazer: goto the website they always have mans06:52
Fazerdazed: I am sure its just the ethernet card =/06:52
SeamusLPtriandafilos:  Hoary is the newest release, comes with gnome-btdownload06:52
Fazerdazed: maybe if I assign it a hostname or something?06:52
dcraventriandafilos, if you are looking to install azureus, this might help --> http://ubuntuguide.org/#azureus06:53
dazedFazer: your right it could be an actually bum eth006:53
Fazerdazed: How do I assign it a hostname?06:53
triandafiloscheers06:53
dazedgoto your net-admin tool again and goto hosts click add06:53
dcraventriandafilos, Warty was the first release of Ubuntu, Hoary is the latest (a week old almost). Hoary is just a newer version.06:53
Fazerdazed: Where's that?06:53
dazedwheres which?06:54
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Fazerdazed: System -> Networking  you mean?06:54
KeizerMy Hoary has been working great.06:54
FazerI am in Network Settings.06:54
Fazerah wait, i see it.06:54
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dcraventriandafilos, bookmark that guide too ;)06:54
Fazerdazed: it asks for IP address though =(06:54
dazedgoto a term and run sudo network-admin (im on fluxbox so i dunno where it would be on a gnome menu)06:54
dazedFazer: you dont know your ip?06:55
Fazerdazed: Ah okay.06:55
dazedgoto term type ifconfig06:55
dazeditll give you ur ip06:55
Fazerdazed: okay, so now what?06:56
dazedtry to ping the host name instead of the ip06:56
Fazerdazed: I still don't see the hostname on the router though.06:56
Fazerdazed: the alias you mean?06:56
dazedyes06:56
dazedalias06:57
Fazerdazed: woah, i get some good ping here ;)06:57
Fazer0.0 Ms pings.06:57
dazedalias = hostname06:57
Fazerdazed: Ah gotcha.06:57
dazedgood good06:57
FazerNow....06:57
Fazersitll can't ping anythign else though.06:58
Fazerif I could just get the USB to work06:58
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dazedwell we are on the right track now06:58
Fazerdazed: but ethernet card is still wack =/06:59
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dazedim glad you got it to ping to the router with a good ping06:59
ponthey wheres the config for ntp ?06:59
dazedyeah id assume so06:59
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Fazerit says that the router ip is unreachable and then suddenly i get long pings.07:00
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dazedjeeze...it just keeps boggling me up07:00
Fazerso i guess we shouldj ust forget about it07:00
Fazerdazed: I know, sorry =(07:00
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dazedim gettin outta my league on what to do :(07:00
Fazerstupid ethernet cards.07:00
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Fazerdazed: what I could do is just get teh USb to work.07:01
Fazerand if that works.07:01
Fazeri can get the drivers for my other card07:01
Fazerand also install that .deb07:01
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dazedFazer: if you get usb to work let me in on what u did :)07:01
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Fazerdazed: haha, chances are I might just forfiet and go out get a mac =/07:01
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dazedFazer: :((((((!!!!!!!07:03
dazedFazer: just goto windows if ur going to do that !07:03
dazedtrust me it took me a while to get everything set up to my liking but once i did..i have never seen ANYTHING better07:03
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Fazerdazed: woah, you are saying that Windows is > Mac OS X?!07:03
FazerUbuntu is like the Macs of Linux07:03
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Fazerexcept on laptpos i guess07:03
triandafilosThx for you help guys but its time for bed..07:03
dazedFazer: no im not saying that07:03
triandafiloscatch you all nexr time07:03
Fazerdazed: hmmm, i wonder if I can get dialup to work! :P07:04
thesameti have done s/hoary/breezy in source.list and doing dist-upgrade now. I noticed that it installs openoffice.org2 but does not remove openoffice.org from hoary.07:04
dazedFazer: im saying if your goign to give up cuz its givin u trouble ...goto windows lol...dial up is much harder then anything else on linux07:04
dazedlol07:04
dazedi gave up on dialup and routed a windows computer to my linux just to host a dialup conn07:04
ilsaI'd love to get a mac to play with but they're just too expensive.07:04
thesametIs there any action I should take, to remove packages that are not "needed" from hoary ?07:04
Fazerdazed: So I am going to try to detect the Modem port...fuck, it couldn't autodetect modem device.07:04
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dazedbut its class time for me...Fazer DONT GIVE UP i have faith youll get it going  just wait for the right person to come a long and give you some help :) linux is FOR YOU!07:05
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Fazerdazed: haha i sure hope so, have fun in class dude.07:05
Absenthhello all.07:06
Fazerdazed: and thanks for your help..07:06
ilsaI came in late, Fazer, what's the prob?07:06
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Fazerilsa: Welp, me and dazed think that the ethernet card is kind of wack.07:06
AbsenthI don't suppose anyone knows of a howto, or guide for "snort / acid / mysql / and /apache07:06
Absenthon ubuntu.07:06
ilsaDid it work before?07:06
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mcdonaldswesilsa: of course it's not the same, but you could go into a mac store and play with one07:06
Fazerilsa: what do you mean "before"07:06
ilsaLike, with windows or something?07:07
Fazerilsa: Oh yeah, ofcourse.07:07
Fazereverything here works fine with Windows ;)07:07
Fazerthere are drivers for my ethernet card...but...they are all source codes =(07:07
ilsaIck... Nothing already compiled?07:07
FazerBut I was able to ping, but the ping times are huge for some reason.07:07
Fazerilsa: Nope.07:07
Fazerilsa: So, I am givingup on the ethernet for now, need to get USB to work so I can get the wlan card back.07:08
Fazerthrough the drivers07:08
mainerabsenth: google,it's there try theor home pages or google configuring ...07:08
Fazerthe drivers are in the wlan card.07:08
Fazererr USB drive i mean07:08
Fazerfor the wlan card.07:08
MrMinitHmm, have some problems here. Can anyone who have apt-upgraded Warty > Hoary upload /var/apt/sources.list one place?07:08
Fazerbut USB times out.07:08
AbsenthFazer:  USB wireless card on Ubuntu or OSX?07:09
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ilsaI dunno crap about USB.07:10
FazerAbsenth: Ubuntu..07:10
Fazerilsa: No one here seems to07:10
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ilsaUSB usually just *works*.07:11
_TeRmInEt_hi07:11
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_TeRmInEt_i can't downloa update with synaptic, there is any problem with servers^07:11
ilsaWhat kind of ethernet card do you have?07:11
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Fazerilsa: Dynex DX E20107:12
ilsa*blink*07:12
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Fazerthe CD that it came with has Linux driver but I would have to compile them ... some how07:12
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ilsaEthernet cards are dirt cheap now-a-days.07:12
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ilsaI would recommend going to some used computer store and picking one up from 3com or something.07:13
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ilsaI've never ever heard of a name like Dynex.07:13
Fazerfor a PCMCIA card? bah...i can't find a good used store here, evne if I do, they probably have it new or somethingl07:13
illmonkeydoes someone use octave?07:13
FazerPCMCIA cards are kind of rare these day s=/07:14
ilsaDepends where you go.07:14
thullyif anyone is interested, i updated the iPod wiki on ubuntu.com - more information on configuring iPods, and how to build gtkpod from source for AAC support07:14
Fazeranyone here have a spare PCMCIA ethernet card07:14
ilsaI have 3. :)07:14
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dr_willisi got a new pcmcia network card the other day for like  $2007:14
dr_willisneeded one for an old laptop07:14
dr_willisactually i saw a desktop machine the otehr day with a Pcmcia Slot even.07:14
Fazerdr_willis: But it seems to be fucked up in order to pruchase something so linux would work.07:14
keffoanyone uses fluxbox?07:15
dr_willisi think it was at some Linux-diskless type worlkstation.07:15
FazerI got this card for around $4.75 + s/h07:15
Fazerits PCMCIA07:15
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dr_willisFazer,  i've grabbed 2 pcmcia nic's  and theybe both worked. :P07:15
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Fazerdr_willis: have one that you can spare?07:15
FazerI can give you $10 USD for it.07:15
_TeRmInEt_do synaptic get update for servers?07:15
tbird_workhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-14037.html07:15
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dr_willisthe 'spare' i got uses a lame cheap conector - so ya got to wiggle the cable t get it working. :P the reason i bought th eother.07:16
dr_willisI got mine at Best Buy.07:16
_TeRmInEt_it's five days, that cannot download update07:16
ilsaThe thing about cheapo noname hardware is that it usually works in windows by default.07:16
ilsaEveryone makes drivers for windows because it's a sure bet.  Linux isn't as popular, so it's more of a pain.07:16
Fazerilsa: it some drivers for INDOWS EITHER< I HAD TO INSTALL SOME DRIVERS FOR XP to work.07:16
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FazerFUCK, Ssorry for the caps07:16
Fazergod i hate windows07:16
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Fazerman...i think i need to reboot this god damn desktop07:17
ilsaYeah.  Well, it's all relative. :)  Virtually all hardware *should* come with Windows drivers.07:17
dr_willisthe pcmcia nic i got is a "dynex'  DX-e20107:17
ilsaROTFL07:17
dr_willisacually i think windows SHOULD be able to find all the drivers over the internet.. i shouldent have to dig for a disk  :P07:17
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dr_willisive seen windows little update service find exactly 1 driver for a pc once.. :P07:18
r11rlive cd fails on finding my lg optical drive :(07:18
dr_willisand then it dident install all the stuff it needed - i still had to go track down the company's site to get a few tools. :()07:18
Fazeroh =(07:18
Fazerbah07:18
sickwhere can i get a eepro1000 kernel modudule?07:18
_TeRmInEt_any people can help me?07:19
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dr_willisr11r,  that just a niormal cd drve?07:19
Fazerthis laptop sucks balls as well07:19
e-typehi all07:19
MonniWindows Update is a big joke07:19
Fazernow, only if pestilence would wake up!07:19
e-typewow, crowdy place :)07:19
dr_willissick,  it should be there allready. lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/eepro100.ko07:19
ilsaMonni:  And soon, only WinXP SP2 users will be able to use it!07:19
tbird_workFazer, are you having problems with pcmcia ?07:19
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dr_willisoh a 1000 :P07:19
dr_willishmm.07:19
AbsenthAnyone setup Snort, and Acid up on Ubuntu, and know of a good guide?07:19
r11rdr_willis: it's one of the lg "super multi" drives.. (GSA-4081B)07:19
Absenthor will I get to pioneer the install process :)07:20
dr_willisr11r,  heh - what does that mean exactly.07:20
Kronikok, question for all you folks in the know...Why doesn't samba provide smbfs?  Am I doing something wrong, or is it generally borked?07:20
Monniilsa: I have XP SP 2... just upgraded memory to 768 MB to be able to browse net while listening to mp3 files at the same time... SICK!07:20
r11rdr_willis: superdrive ... dvd+-rw and dvd-ram07:20
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Absenthr11r you a mac guy?07:20
r11rIt's in a Dell Precision 37007:20
dr_willissmbfs is a kernel feature/module isent it?07:20
Absenthr11r, guess not :)07:20
Kronikin synaptic it says that samba provides smbfs07:20
r11rAbsenth: not at the moment :) although the livecd workd perfectly on my ibook07:21
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Absenthr11r, which model ibook?  I've got a 800mhz G4.07:21
_TeRmInEt_it's normal that synaptic can't find update(last update five days ago) ?07:21
r11rAbsenth: 500 mhz g3. haha07:21
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ilsaMonni: Sounds like youve probably gota a wack load of spyware.07:22
Absenthr11r, so you can't likely tell me good news regarding the airport extreme, and linux :)07:22
dr_willis_TeRmInEt_,  theres proberly changes every day to the repositories.07:22
Monniilsa: actually none... I checked ;)07:22
r11rAbsenth: no, although regular airport is detected wonderfully :)07:22
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ilsaCreepy...07:22
Absenthr11r, danke.07:22
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falcon3_ sudo apt-get install mplayer-68607:22
falcon3_The following packages have unmet dependencies:07:22
falcon3_  mplayer-686: Depends: mplayer-586 but it is not going to be installed07:22
falcon3_E: Broken packages07:22
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r11rWhat is the ubuntu live cd based on?07:22
falcon3_What can i do about this ?07:22
Burgundaviafalcon3_, warty/hoary/breezy?07:22
falcon3_hoary07:23
dr_willisr11r,  its based on knoppix i THINK.. or uses a lot of Knoppix.07:23
Absenthalright I guess i'm going to spearhead and document the hell out of making Hoary an IDS box via Snort, Acid, mysql, and apache,07:23
Absenthlater all07:23
r11rdr_willis: thx07:23
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falcon3_Burgundavia: hoary07:23
Monniilsa: if I close all apps, I get memory usage to near 230 MB, mostly because I still have system services running... I guess I can get it very slow if I turn off networking07:23
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dr_willisr11r,  but its a work in progess.. so it may get more and more ubuntu-ized as time goes on.07:23
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floriananybody an idea why alsa + esd could sound... well choppy?07:23
Burgundaviafalcon3_, have you enabled debian marilliat?07:23
Burgundaviafalcon3_, and what arch>07:23
falcon3_x8607:24
busfahrerExcuse me, what's the Ubuntu command for "check if there are any new packages and install them"?07:24
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crimsunbusfahrer: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade07:24
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busfahrercrimsun, does Ubuntu have a graphical interface for that?07:24
_TeRmInEt_dr_willis: but I try to update, but synaptic didn't find anything07:24
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crimsunbusfahrer: though if you want strictly /new/, you'll have to use another tool. Try Synaptic.07:24
falcon3_Burgundavia: i have marillat07:24
Burgundaviabusfahrer, yes. system-->admin-->synaptic07:24
e-typeflorian: busy system?07:24
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busfahrerThanks, folks!07:24
dr_willis_TeRmInEt_,  could be the package is broke or som other odd issue.07:24
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BoneZHow do I save a .doc on my USB memory? I've tried 3 times but it wont stay saved...07:25
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floriane-type: not at all07:25
Burgundaviafalcon3_, debian-marilliat just had some wierd failures recently07:25
dr_willisBoneZ,  what does it do then? just vanish?07:25
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Kronikso anyone else missing smbfs?  or am I the only lucky one07:25
e-typeBoneZ: did you unmount properly?07:25
falcon3_Burgundavia: so what should i do ?07:25
BoneZ@DR_willis yes07:25
Burgundaviafalcon3_, wait07:25
BoneZNo07:25
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BoneZDunno how >.>07:25
BoneZ>.<07:25
e-typeBoneZ: you need to unmount filesystems properly before you unplug it07:26
dr_willisBoneZ,  thats odd.. Mine works fine. :P pop in the usb thing.. a window pops up on the desktop.. i copy files over.07:26
_TeRmInEt_dr_willis: I've hoary it's the last, didn't?07:26
zanehey guys, i need your help. I updated kernel using kynoptics and now ubuntu boots up with new kernel and then just goes to the linux command prompt, is there anything i need to do so that iboots into X?07:26
dr_willisim useing vfat on my thumbdrive however.07:26
crimsunwhich package did you install?07:26
floriane-type: it seems to be coused by esd, because if I playback through alsa directly it works just fine, but not together with esd.07:26
zerokarmaleftok...i made a really stupid mistake cleaning out xfce's config files in /etc and accidentally removed /etc/xdg recursively instead of /etc/xdg/xfce4...so now /etc/xdg/menus is empty.  any ideas on how to restore it?07:26
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dr_willis_TeRmInEt_,  thers updates constantly to things.. ive often had packages not want to install.. then a few day laters they work.07:26
dr_willis_TeRmInEt_,  what are you trying toinstall anyway?07:26
ilsaGotta go.  Thanks for all the help earlier!07:27
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crimsunzerokarmaleft: --reinstall gnome-menus menu-xdg xfce4-mcs-plugins xfce4-panel xfwm4 xfce4-utils xfdesktop4 xfce4-session07:27
_TeRmInEt_dr_willis: i try to start update, but i didn't find source, I think07:28
crimsunzerokarmaleft: that's a minimal list; you're likely in need of reinstalling additional packages07:28
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_TeRmInEt_dr_willis: can I try to get update with apt-get command?07:28
omegMan. Since I have a laptop, it seems impossible to change the volume... if I set it to very low, it's no different than when I set it high.07:28
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omegI'll just turn it off for now.07:28
ogra_TeRmInEt_, there are no big updates for hoary anymore, hoary is stable and only recieves security bugfixes...07:28
graabeinhi... guys, what do i do with segmentation faults? where do i start looking??07:28
crimsungraabein: gdb07:29
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crimsunomeg: cat /proc/asound/cards07:29
_TeRmInEt_ogra: ok, but i didn't know why i can't get update07:29
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ogra_TeRmInEt_, did you edit your sources.list ?07:30
omegcrimsun: just terminal'ed that, but it showed me a list of the available sound cards.07:30
_TeRmInEt_yes, only to add universe source07:30
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falcon3_Burgundavia: still looking ?07:31
crimsunomeg: that's precisely what I want to see. Paste it to pastebin.com07:31
ogra_TeRmInEt_, you might have a typo or double entry07:31
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omegEr, sure. =)07:31
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Burgundaviafalcon3_, I see that some things just got removed or didn't build on i386 in the marilliat repos. I have no idea why07:31
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_TeRmInEt_brb, but when just edited it worked07:32
Coilyi edited my sources.list to hoary, did apt-get dist-upgrade... but lsb_release -a says im using warty07:32
Coilyhelp anyone?07:32
omeghttp://www.pastebin.com/271260 <-- Here you go, crimsun.07:32
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crimsunCoily: you needed to update first07:32
falcon3_Burgundavia: anything i can do bout it?07:32
Coilycrimsun, i did07:32
Coilyi wish it was that simple ='[07:32
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crimsunCoily: you ran apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?07:32
zaneguys .. somebody..  i need your help. I updated kernel using kynoptics and now ubuntu boots up with new kernel and then just goes to the linux command prompt, is there anything i need to do so that it boots into X?07:32
dcravenfalcon3_, if you want mplayer, I suggest you comment out merillat and use the one in multi/universe.07:32
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Coilycrimsun, correct07:32
crimsunzane: answer my question.07:32
Fazerdcraven: how do I moutn a floppy dirve?07:32
falcon3_dcraven: thx07:32
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zanecrimsun: whats the question?07:33
Fazeranyone know how to mount a floppy drive?07:33
crimsunzane: scroll up.07:33
crimsunzane: I asked about which package you installed07:33
FazerUSB mice and drives don't work with ubuntu07:33
Coilycrimsun, the first time i used dist-upgrade it installed a bunch of stuff, error free. but when i reboot... "warty"07:33
Fazerethernet doesn't work07:33
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Fazerso I don't know wtf to do.07:33
FazerHow does anyone moutn floppy drives?!07:33
falcon3_where is sources.list located again ??07:33
tbird_workmount /media/floppy0 or whatever your floppy drive is07:33
Coily/etc/apt07:33
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falcon3_thx07:33
dcravenFazer, mount /dev/fd0 /wherever ?07:33
zanei installed 2.6.1107:33
Fazerah okay.07:34
graabeincrimsun: i put gdb glxinfo in pastebin.com07:34
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crimsungraabein: sec07:34
Fazerwtf07:34
dcravenOr /media/floppy maybe.07:34
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Fazernow it says specify filesystem type?!07:34
Coilywould someone running hoary tell me what "lsb_release -a" prints out07:34
omeghttp://www.pastebin.com/271260 <-- Here you go, crimsun.07:34
akkWow!  The hoary live CD works on my Vaio laptop!07:34
omegOne fine ol' laptop default Intel sound chipset. :p07:35
crimsunomeg: thanks, read.07:35
akkThat's the first live CD ever that's worked on that machine.07:35
Fazerakk: same can be said about my thinkpad07:35
Fazerbut USB doesn't work07:35
chinnaCoily:LSB Version:    n/a07:35
chinnaDistributor ID: Ubuntu07:35
chinnaDescription:    Ubuntu (The Hoary Hedgehog Release)07:35
chinnaRelease:        5.0407:35
chinnaCodename:       hoary07:35
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crimsunomeg: so adjustments make via alsamixer or amixer have no effect?07:35
_TeRmInEt_>apt-get update07:35
_TeRmInEt_Get: 1 http://archive-ubuntu.com hoary Release.gpg [189B] 07:35
_TeRmInEt_Hit ttp://archive-ubuntu.com hoary Release07:35
_TeRmInEt_Hit ttp://archive-ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages07:35
_TeRmInEt_ecc...07:35
zerokarmaleftcrimsun, hmm...gnome-menus has the config files i need, but reinstalling doesn't restore them07:35
Burgundaviachinna, please avoid flooding the channel like that07:35
crimsunomeg: particularly adjustments made to Master and/or PCM07:35
zanecrimsun, i instaled linux-image 2.6.11-1-386    2.6.11-0.207:35
omegI'm not sure. All I know is this: when I use the volume lever to the top-right of the screen, it doesn't matter.07:35
FazerWTF!07:35
crimsunzerokarmaleft: --reinstall install? If not, purge it then reinstall it.07:36
Fazerhow the FUCK do you specify the fiulesystem type of a fuckign floppy!?!?07:36
zanethats the only one i selected from the list07:36
Coilydammit i did a dist-upgrade and its telling me im running warty, argh!07:36
crimsunzane: don't use that package. It's _unsupported_.07:36
_TeRmInEt_ogra: ?07:36
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Fazerdcraven: So, dude...filesystem of a floppy? WTf is up with that?07:36
crimsunzane: revert to your previous 2.6.10-3407:36
ogra_TeRmInEt_, where is an error there ? i dont see one07:36
zaneoh.. then how do i upgrade the kernel? just use  the old fashioned way?07:37
crimsunFazer: watch your language.07:37
Fazersorry07:37
Fazeri am pissed off at this07:37
Fazerthat it can't even moutn a floppy drive07:37
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Fazerand what filesystem does a floppy drive run on07:37
chinnaCoily did u run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade in the same order??07:37
crimsunpmount /media/floppy07:37
Coilyno i did not run apt-get upgrade07:37
KronikFazer: it depends on what it's formatted as07:37
MajestiKI'm trying to install a07:37
MajestiKerr..07:37
FazerKronik: Its just...a floppy07:37
Fazercrimsun: there i sno /floppy in /media07:38
Kronikbut what's it formatted as07:38
Kronikfat07:38
Coilyand that would be stupid considering id be upgrading hoary packages for a release i dont have07:38
Fazer/media is empty07:38
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falcon3_w00t07:38
chinnaCoily :then  u did wrong07:38
falcon3_dcraven: thx07:38
falcon3_its installing07:38
MajestiKI'm trying to install a kernel-686-smp onto my machine, but it seems like the only kernel I can use is the -386 one, I get unable to mount root errors if I try anything else.  The machine is a dual Xeon Hyperthread box07:38
zerokarmaleftcrimsun, ty...purge-n-reinstall worked07:38
Coilychinna, read what i just said...07:38
crimsunFazer: pmount /dev/fd0 something07:38
_TeRmInEt_ogra: apt-get don't download update07:38
graabein*ogden's nut gone flake*07:38
dcravenfalcon3_, anytime.07:38
crimsunFazer: it'll appear as /media/something07:38
falcon3_dcraven: i got a lot of codecs for mplayer, any idea where to throw them ?07:39
Fazerand then?07:39
crimsunFazer: and then use it.07:39
Fazerhow?07:39
Fazerthere is still nothing in /media/07:39
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omegAnyway, it's strange. And the sound seems to be pretty loud by default. You're busy right now though, crimsun, but maybe someone else is able to help me as well? =)07:39
akkDarn, it seems to hang on "halt".  Otherwise the live CD was perfect (modulo slowness, of course).07:39
dcravenfalcon3_, no. I just use the apt ones.07:39
Fazeri did 'pmount /dev/fd0 something'07:39
Fazerand there is nothing in /media07:39
ogra_TeRmInEt_, if there is no change, why should it waste bandwith07:39
chinnaCoily the upgrades are based only on the version numbers alright??07:39
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crimsunFazer: paste the output of ,,dmesg | tail -5'' in #flood07:39
AlfonsVHHi guys; I've got a problem. I want to share internet connection, using a Kubuntu box as client and a win2k box as server. I enabled DHCP on both machines, but I can't connect to the internet via the Linux box. When I check the status of the network, Linux tells me that eth0 is disabled. When I enable it and go back to control center, it's disabled again! How does that come and how to fix it?07:39
Fazercrimsun: uhm...my laptop isn't connected to the internet07:40
Fazerso I can't paste shit.07:40
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_TeRmInEt_ogra: can I past all the log in query?07:40
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crimsunFazer: refrain from the expletives07:40
Fazeri did dmesg07:40
ogra_TeRmInEt_, sure07:40
crimsunFazer: that's five lines. Get a pen and a paper and type them.07:40
Fazercrimsun: I its all useless information? it sabout keyboard and 100 MBps full-duplex crap.07:41
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e-typeAlfonsVH: did you configure xp correctly to share it's connection?07:41
Florobomeg: what soundcard/chipset is this?07:41
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chinnaCoily the upgrades are based only on the version numbers alright??07:41
crimsunFazer: then remove the filter and find any information about floppy drive detection07:41
AlfonsVHe-type: It's win2000, not XP, and yes, I did share the internet connection07:42
Fazercrimsun: "end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, secor 0"07:42
chinnaCoily the upgrades are based only on the version numbers alright??07:42
Fazerthat seems relevant07:42
crimsunFazer: quite. And above that?07:42
omegFlorob: http://www.pastebin.com/271260 <-- This is from the terminal. I'm on a Dell Inspiron 9100 with default sound chipset.07:42
Coilychinna, what do you mean07:42
Fazercrimsun: "atkbd.c: Keyboard on isa0060/serio0 reports too many keys pressed."07:42
omegEverything is working fine except for the sound and the video.07:42
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crimsunomeg: have you adjusted the Master and/or PCM volumes using alsamixer?07:42
crimsunomeg: open a Terminal, type alsamixer, and use the arrow keys07:43
omegAlright. Trying now.07:43
Fazeromeg: ethernet and floppy and USb don't work =/ imagine how pissed off I am, the moment I boot back to XP, spyware galore!07:43
Fazeri hate running on slow hardware07:43
alex#mandrake07:43
Fazerfucking pisses me off07:43
falcon3_Does anyone know where extra mplayer codecs need to go ?07:43
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Fazersorry for swearing.07:43
crimsunfalcon3_: /usr/lib/win32/07:43
Fazercrimsun: "atkbd.c: Keyboard on isa0060/serio0 reports too many keys pressed."07:43
e-typeAlfonsVH: can you ping your 2k box?07:44
crimsunFazer: but no further references to fd0?07:44
falcon3_crimsun: kevin@ubuntu:/usr/lib$ cd win3207:44
falcon3_bash: cd: win32: No such file or directory07:44
Fazercrimsun: Nope.07:44
AlfonsVHBy the way; I've got an other problem too; my soundcard isn't recognized. I tried the one that was in my computer originally (compaq-thing - pnp) and a Creative 16 Pro pnp card; I tried to install the correct ALSA drivers, but it still doesn't work. The BIOS does recognize it though07:44
chinnaCoily the upgrading is only for the package version which is better than the ones you have07:44
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crimsunfalcon3_: did you install w32codecs?07:44
falcon3_no07:44
tonycan somebody help me? i can no longer execute binarys with users != root!07:44
crimsunfalcon3_: ...then you need to.07:44
Fazercrimsun: So...hopeless yet again?07:45
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alexhow do i install mplayer?07:45
crimsunFazer: I presume the floppy is formatted and perfectly writeable and readable from another OS?07:45
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Fazercrimsun: Correcto.07:45
falcon3_crimsun: cant find anything related to w32codecs07:45
chinnatony use sudo07:45
omegAlright, crimsun, Florob: I'm now able to alter the sound's volume, but still unable to alter it using the handy volume lever to the top-right of the screen.07:45
crimsunalex: read the instructions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:45
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alexmerci, crimsun07:46
omegIt seems that it just doesn't respond to that. Alsamixer can alter the sound's volume, however.07:46
chinnatony use sudo07:46
chinnatony use sudo07:46
tonychinna: no, i know how to become root07:46
tonychinna: i no longer can do something without being root07:46
crimsunomeg: that's probably because the handy volume control is using the wrong device. You have 2 devices; card0 is the onboard ac97, and card1 is your onboard modem07:46
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chinnatony why what did u do??07:46
crimsunomeg: what happens with Applications>Sound & Video>Volume Control?07:47
Florobomeg, does right click-> options-> change from oss to alsa help?07:47
FlorobBTW so mow i'm pissed for me neither works ;(07:47
davixanybody using xqf?07:47
Fazercrimsun: I just tried the flopy on this desktop and everything's just as normal.07:47
AlfonsVHe-type: no, no pinging ("connect: network is unreacheable")07:47
falcon3_crimsun: w32codecs (MARILLAT)07:47
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falcon3_needed to delete marillat07:47
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tonychinna: i don't really know. was installing mathematica and afterwards i was no longer able to execute files07:47
Moodshi there everyone ...07:47
chinnatony why what did u do??07:47
chinnatony why what did u do??07:47
graabeinhi07:47
jnkHi. Just installed swat, but localhost:901 says "connexion refused"07:47
Moodsi m in a problem in ubunutoo linux07:47
Moodsi m in a problem in ubunutoo linux07:48
Moodsi m in a problem in ubunutoo linux07:48
tonychinna: look above07:48
Moodswill somebody help be07:48
Moodsme*07:48
crimsunMoods: that's great, stop repeating.07:48
cavediverCan anyone help me reproduce a bug in nautilus ?07:48
AlfonsVHyes tell your problem, mooeds07:48
Burgundaviacavediver, sure07:48
e-typeAlfonsVH: does ifconfig list eth0 as being up?07:48
Fazerwow...this sucks.07:48
Fazerso, i am giong to give ubuntu one last try07:48
e-typemoder: ask ;)07:48
jnkHow do I edit the accounts for samba ?07:48
omegcrimsun, Florob: thanks a lot. It works now that I've set it to PCM instead of "Volume". I'm not sure if this covers all volume (I guess only all WAVE) but at least this works for now.07:48
e-typemoder: sorry, meant someone else ;)07:48
Moodsi have installed ubuntoo ... but it didnt asked root pass ... and i m unable to boot as root ? what to do07:48
cavediverPlace a .ogg file on your desktop. Then try to right-click and choose properties. My nautilus hangs solid.07:48
jnkMoods, you don't log as root07:49
jnkMoods, you use the sudo command07:49
crimsunFazer: is this with a certain install or a live cd, and which?07:49
BurgundaviaMoods, ubuntu uses sudo. see www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo07:49
jnkMoods, to get a root shell, use "sudo -s"07:49
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omegNow there's just one more problem. I'm on a laptop with WUXGA screen, which allows a max of 1920x1200x32. Apparently, it's not possible to use this resolution. I'm on 1600x1200 right now, but with my widescreen, it's uncomfortably stretched. =)07:49
Fazercrimsun: live cd ofcourse, I am not going to install when I find out that nothing works.07:49
Moodsoh ... thanks jnk .. let me try that ...07:49
AlfonsVHe-type: it does LIST eth0, but no IP address, only inet6; the configuration screen in Kubuntu tells me that eth0 is disabled07:49
jnkMoods, if you really want to active the root account, run "sudo passwd" but just don't07:49
cavediverIs there a channel to get in contact with some developers.07:49
cavediverAnd report this bug.07:49
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dcravencavediver, bugzilla.ubuntu.org07:49
crimsuncavediver: report bugs using bugzilla.ubuntu.com07:50
cavediverok07:50
tonycan somebody help me? i can no longer execute binarys with users != root!07:50
Burgundaviacavediver, verified07:50
crimsuncavediver: universe bugs go to malone, launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone07:50
AlfonsVHMoods, it IS possible to login as root, just do a google search "ubuntu login as root", but I DO NOT RECCOMEND it at all!!!! BE CAREFUL07:50
Coilyis it possible that lsb_release is lying to me, and that im running hoary? are there any simple ways to tell if im running hoary?07:50
Moodsoh .. thanks ..07:50
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cavediverBurgundavia: thanks. has been there for a while. Maybe it's not reported.07:50
tbird_workapt-get install  mplayer-common07:50
crimsunCoily: no, lsb_release isn't pulling a fast one on you07:50
Moodshow do i activate servers like samba ... apache .. squid etc ?07:50
Moodswill u plz guide me ?07:50
jnkCoily, check the file /etc/apt/sources.liist07:51
e-typeAlfonsVH: you don't have dhcp server running on xp, configure your card with static ip and yr 2k box as gateway07:51
jnkCoily, /etc/apt/sources.list07:51
graabeincan anyone help me with my nvidia card... i think i have a problem with opengl07:51
crimsunFazer: which model laptop and revision?07:51
e-typeAlfonsVH: erm, xp, I meant 2k winbox07:51
chinnatony wat r the permissions of the binaries u want to run??07:51
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chinnatony wat r the permissions of the binaries u want to run??07:51
Coilycrimsun, then why is synaptic telling me theres nothing to upgrade, when i have all of the hoary repositories added07:51
chinnatony wat r the permissions of the binaries u want to run??07:51
Fazercrimsun: Thinkpad 600E 264507:51
jnkMoods, launch synaptic and install what you want07:51
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dcraventony, what does "ls -l /usr/bin/top" say?07:51
tonychinna: the permissions are OK, even the filesystem is mounted with exec set07:51
moon!!07:51
Fazercrimsun: and yes, i did do some research, but I don't know why USb atlesat won't work let alone ethernet07:51
Moodsoh thanks a lot jnk07:51
crimsunCoily: because there's /nothing/ to upgrade. Hoary is frozen. Nothing new goes in.07:51
tonydcraven: rwxr-xr-x07:52
cavediverHm, it07:52
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Fazercrimsun: I am talking USB so I can mount my USB drive and get the drivers off of it and get my wlan up and running.07:52
mchanghowdy folks07:52
Coilycrimsun, im talking about dist-upgrade07:52
Burgundaviacavediver, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=831407:52
Coilycrimsun, as in warty>hoary07:52
cavediverIt's reported already and the status is solved... https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814307:52
Burgundaviacavediver, might be related07:52
jnkCoily, gnome-about, which version does it report ?07:52
dcraventony, do you get permission denied or do you get "file or directory not found"?07:52
cavediverBurgundavia: I saw that. But it's not solved :)07:52
mchanganyone working with hoary kickstart here?07:52
Burgundaviacavediver, follow the dup07:52
crimsunCoily: and you Refreshed?07:52
Coilyjnk, 2.8.107:52
Coilycrimsun, yes07:53
Burgundaviacavediver, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807607:53
crimsunCoily: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list onto pastebin.com07:53
cavediverBurgundavia: ohh i see.07:53
tonydcraven: i can't even login. I get "Unable to cd to "/home/tony""07:53
Coilycrimsun, k07:53
jnkCoily, it's not hoary then07:53
dr_willisHmm.. where in the world does usb gamepads show up under /dev/ now a days?07:53
mchangTrying to figure out how to automate the kickstart apt configuration screen.07:53
mchangAny thoughts?07:53
tonydcraven: however, i should be able to open /home/tony07:53
graabeincan anyone help me with my nvidia card... i think i have a problem with opengl07:53
dcraventony, does /home/tony exist? If it does, what are it's permissions?07:53
crimsunFazer: I presume you've read the notes here? http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsIBM/view?searchterm=Thinkpad%20AND%20600E07:53
Fazerman, its relly sad when even the floppy wont' work!07:53
Fazercrimsun: first thing i did yes.07:54
crimsunFazer: and which acpi options are you using?07:54
tonydcraven: the permissions are  correct rwxr-xr-x tony:tony07:54
Fazercrimsun: I don't know, how must I check?07:54
Coilyhttp://pastebin.com/27126907:54
crimsunFazer: so you read the page but aren't using any acpi options? hmm.07:54
jnkSo someone know how to edit accounts for samba shares ?07:54
crimsunFazer: cat /proc/cmdline07:54
Fazercrimsun: I am using the Live CD?07:54
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crimsunFazer: cat /proc/cmdline07:55
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Fazercrimsun: Okay, I Just booted back into the LIve CD again in hopes that the floppy would alteast work.07:55
crimsungraabein: sorry about the delay. Could you paste the output of glxinfo onto pastebin.com, please?07:55
Coilycrimsun, http://pastebin.com/27126907:55
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graabeincrimsun: i just get one line: Segmentation fault07:55
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crimsungraabein: and what hardware are you using?07:56
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graabeinnvidia geforce 6600 gt07:56
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crimsunCoily: lsb_release -a  => pastebin07:56
jnkCoily, run : sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade07:56
graabeini've installed 7174 from the official site07:56
crimsungraabein: Hoary?07:56
graabeinyep07:57
Fazercrimsun: Okay, so I did that, what exactly are you looking for?07:57
crimsungraabein: why didn't you follow the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?07:57
crimsungraabein: Hoary ships with 717407:57
omegHmm. How do I access the wastebin? Don't see any desktop icons.07:57
crimsungraabein: by mucking with Nvidia's installer, you've munged the setup07:57
Fazercrimsun: I don't see anything about acpi you asked.07:57
jnkomeg, you have a trash applet. Is this what you're looking for?07:57
crimsunFazer: in /proc/cmdline?07:57
Fazercrimsun: yeah07:57
omegI guess. I just tossed a file and want it back. =)07:57
Fazercrimsun: I did a grep as well, and that didn't return anything.07:58
jnkomeg, so add a trash applet to a pannel if it's not already there07:58
graabeincrimsun: i read some where it didn't support 6600 gt?07:58
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shininghi07:58
jnkomeg, or look at the folder .Trash in your home directory (hidden folder)07:58
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crimsunFazer: all right, now try booting with noapic nolapic pci=noacpi07:58
Florobomeg: lower right corner?07:59
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graabeincrimsun: i use driver "nv"... x won't start with "nvidia"07:59
jnkbye07:59
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Fazercrimsun: Bah...wish I knew that earlier , *sigh* hold on, doing sudo shutdown07:59
Fazercrimsun: But, why "noapic" ?07:59
crimsunFazer: your hardware is known to have broken hardware. We'll start with the safe combination.08:00
Fazercrimsun: Ooh, I know the trackpoint is broken.08:00
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Fazerit is disabled.08:00
Fazerokay08:00
Fazeri am at the boot screen08:00
Coilyjnk, for some reason aptitude worked08:00
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Fazeri get an error08:00
Fazer"Could not find kernel image: noapic"08:01
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crimsunFazer: read the instructions in the help menu for appending kernel parameters08:01
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crimsunFazer: you'll need to specify a kernel image08:01
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Fazerkernel paratmers or boot parameters?08:01
cens0redI have a j2sdk rpm. Seems it would be easier to use that then download a deb with dialup. Where's a page on using that "alien" thing?08:01
shiningI tried to upgrade to breezy on one of my box to get the last fglrx driver, but I didn't see any update for it08:01
crimsunFazer: same thing08:01
dagson radeon vid card; okey to use the 6.8.0-8.8.25 deb in the repository or is the latest rpm from ati.com far better (on 2d use mostly)?08:01
Fazercrimsun: I am kind of new so I am not sure what I might be doing..08:01
crimsunFazer: press F108:02
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Fazerdid that08:02
shiningit only upgraded gcc and 3 other packages08:02
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crimsunshining: it hasn't built yet08:02
xxenonany reason why ch.archive.ubuntu.com hasn't been updated for 1 week ?08:02
stianhGreetings08:02
shiningcrimsun, its funny, I saw on the web it was08:02
graabeinyo! (norway)08:02
Fazercrimsun: Should I do live acpi=off08:02
Fazer?08:02
Fazerwhat is acpi exactly?08:03
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crimsunshining: where on the web?08:03
Burgundaviaxxenon, hoary is frozen. There are no more updates except security ones08:03
shiningdags, well the actual works08:03
crimsunFazer: wikipedia will help you08:03
shiningcrimsun, on ubuntu forums maybe08:03
crimsunFazer: pci=noacpi does that08:03
e-typeFazer: power control, battery stuff, cpu frequencies, ...08:03
crimsunshining: oh? url?08:03
Fazerooh okay.08:03
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Fazerso i am on a laptop..08:03
akkFazer: Do you mean acpi, or apic?  They're different things.08:04
Fazershit08:04
Fazeracpi08:04
xxenonBurgundavia - ok. Any way to get the new develpment repository ?08:04
graabeincrimsun: do you suggest i do the http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto?08:04
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Burgundaviaxxenon, breezy just opened yesterday. I am not moving for another few weeks, but change all your hoary refs to breezy08:04
mrimbertgraabein, yes08:04
Fazercrimsun: So, what shall I boot with?08:05
graabeinmrimbert: even when i've installed the official drivers and messed about?08:05
crimsungraabein: yes08:05
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graabeinokay, will do. wish me luck!08:05
xxenonBurgundavia - thx08:05
crimsunFazer: the line I first gave you08:05
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Burgundaviaxxenon, highly not recommended08:05
reonHI, I need some help with installing 'nvidia' driver please !08:05
stianhhmm, I have just installed hoary on my laptop, and every five minutes or so, my external mouse (usb) freezes, and I have to unplug it and plug it back it to get it working again. Any suggestions?08:05
Fazercrimsun: it...doesn't work, remember?08:05
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nubbenanyone wanna help a newbie?08:06
crimsunFazer: no, you simply didn't pass the correct syntax08:06
crimsunFazer: read the help08:06
nubbenI cant mount ant of my other windows partitions,08:06
Fazercrimsun: it isn't making much sense...08:06
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crimsunFazer: you pass a kernel image as the first parameter, then the additional noapic nolapic pci=noacpi08:06
nubbenjust the one that I have windows installed on..08:06
crimsunFazer: like this: linux noapic nolapic pci=noacpi08:06
Fazerso should i say "live"08:06
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Fazerinstead of "linux"08:06
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envelis there any messenger for gnome similar to ksalup in KDE?08:07
crimsunFazer: if that's what the help tells you to do, yes08:07
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reonHi, I need some help with installing 'nvidia' driver please...08:07
monteiromy mouse is very slow when i'm writing a cd or installing a game , in gentoo or debian this didnt happen :( anyone knows what it is ?08:07
crimsunreon: and you've read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?08:07
sdogianyone knows why doesn't bittornado work in ubuntu?08:07
Fazercrimsun: Then uhm...there are many boot parameters08:07
envelmonteiro, check hdparm08:07
omegHmm. I downloaded Mozilla Suite, but now that I've extracted it, it won't let me run the installer. It's indicated as an executable, but double-clicking it has zero effect.08:07
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Fazercrimsun: I mean, there are many sub-choices08:07
FazerI don't know which one applies to me?08:08
monteiroenvel : tks :)08:08
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Burgundaviareon, take a peak at www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriversHowto08:08
crimsunFazer: please read what I said above08:08
reoncrimsun:  I read http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver08:08
Fahis there an amd64 version of mplayer for hoary?08:08
crimsunFazer: keep it simple. Pass the kernel name then the string I gave you08:08
gdsW WINDOWS08:08
gds:-)08:08
envelmonteiro, maybe you cdrom works in pio08:08
graabeincrimsun, mrimbert: http://pastebin.com/27127708:08
ZotnixHrm08:08
Fazercrimsun: do you want me to type "linux noapic nolapic pci=noacpi" ?08:08
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ZotnixPerhaps I should have waited to upgrade to Breezy.08:08
crimsunFazer: yes, save you may have to replace "linux" with the correct image name08:08
envelis there ksalup-like program for gnome? (using gtk libraries)08:09
monteiroenvel : but if its the same thing when i use a lot of programs at the same time, not heavy and it happens the same08:09
Fazercrimsun: Couldnot find kernel image: linux08:09
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crimsunreon: so now read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:09
gdsHow can I install proprietary ati driver?08:09
crimsunFazer: the help menu tells you precisely what the livecd's image name is08:09
mrimbertgds, same URL crimsun just gave08:09
reoncrimsun: Yes I read that one as well08:09
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crimsunreon: then where are you having problems?08:09
wickedomg there is a question bombardment here :)08:09
Fazercrimsun: Yeah well, its not there so I replaced "linux" with "live" in that boot procedure08:09
Fazerso it seems to be owrking...08:09
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envelmonteiro, maybe you have not enough memory and your hard drive works in pio mode;)08:10
crimsunFazer: good08:10
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graabeinreon: i have problems with my nvidia card as well... whats your problem?08:10
omegMaybe someone could help me? I'm pretty sure this is just a simple thing. I downloaded Mozilla Suite, but I can't run the installer. Double-clicking does nothing, without any sort of error message.08:10
Fazercrimsun: Okay, so, what shall I do next? Wait for it to completley boot up?08:10
mrimbertgraabein, you'll need to do what it says there regarding the md5sum08:10
shiningquote : "ATI driver version 8.12.10 is available in breezy, which should fix this problem + have a decent performance improvement."08:10
memnipsfor some reason, ubuntu keeps getting disconnected from my WLAN, and, there is no way I can re-connect to it without rebooting which is very annoying.08:10
shininghttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:10
crimsunFazer: yes, and do whatever you initially tried to do, use something USB-related?08:10
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mrimbertgraabein, or, change "nv" to "nvidia" by hand08:10
graabeinmrimbert, okay, i'm on it...08:10
reoncrimsun: whe I specify driver 'nvidia' my X wont load, if I change it back 2 'nv' it works08:10
Fazercrimsun: Yeah, i was trying to moutn a USB drive.08:10
crimsunreon: so paste the error from /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin.com08:11
graabeinmrimbert, last time i did that x wouldnt start... in the xorg.cof08:11
shiningreon, follow the link I just pasted08:11
graabeinnf08:11
Fahreon: is the nvidia kernel module loaded?08:11
shiningreon, and read the instructions for installing the nvidia driver08:11
Fazercrimsun: OH and one more thing, how come teh LIve CD configured the DHCP for me while the Installer doesn't?08:11
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graabeinFah, what do i type to check that?08:11
crimsunFazer: just now?08:11
crimsunFazer: or before?08:11
Fazercrimsun: Before.08:11
memnipsanyone know how to restart a wireless network device (reactive and deactiveate dont actually work) because i keep getting disconnected from my WLAN and have to reboot.08:11
envelomeg, check file rights, the 'executable' bit is not set08:11
mrimbertgraabein, is nvidia module loaded?08:11
Fahgraabein: lsmod|grep nvidia08:11
crimsunFazer: the livecd is different from the install cd08:11
monteiroenvel : maybe it is it, i'm expecting to have time to change to another hard-drive the ubuntu08:12
Fahif its not loaded modprobe nvidia08:12
Fazercrimsun: =( so....that means when I install it, my network card won't work?08:12
graabeinnvidia               3919548  0   /   agpgart                31784  2 intel_agp,nvidia08:12
Fahthen  start x08:12
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crimsunFazer: it means you may have to pass additional kernel/boot options08:12
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envelmonteiro, do you know  a program similar to ksalup that written especially for gnome?08:12
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Fazerooh =[08:12
mrimbertgraabein, okay, have you taken a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:12
graabeini'm in x right now but glxinfo gives me segmentation fault08:12
Fahand you've installed the nvidia-glx package?08:13
memnipsanyone know how to restart a wireless network device? Reactive and deactiveate dont actually work after i get disconnected from my WLAN and forces me to reboot to re-connect.  Very frustrating.08:13
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monteiroenvel : nop08:13
crimsungraabein: we need to see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log with "nvidia"08:13
shiningmembreya, it works here08:13
graabein(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)08:13
shiningoops08:13
crimsungraabein: yes, even if it doesn't work. Copy it to a safe location.08:13
shiningmemnips, it works here08:13
membreyashining: ? :|08:14
crimsungraabein: lsmod|grep ^nvidia08:14
memnipsshining, when you get disconnected, you can just re-activate and it works?08:14
mrimbertgraabein, please paste it to pastebin (Xorg.0.log)08:14
crimsungraabein: err, n/m. Just scrolled up.08:14
shiningmembreya, I said oops08:14
shiningmemnips, yep08:14
dcravenmemnips, dhcp?08:14
memnipsdcraven, yeah, dhcp.08:15
shiningmemnips, sometimes, I just wait, and it reconnects alone08:15
crimsungraabein: does /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o exist?08:15
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angeldustedUNTUNU!08:15
shiningI'm using dhcp too08:15
Fazercrimsun: Okay, so it has booted up...08:15
angeldustedUBUNTU OWNS08:15
memnipsdamn...mine refuses to do that.08:15
shiningangeldusted, you too08:15
dcravenmemnips, dhclient wlan0 will ask for an IP.08:15
Fazerangeldusted: =[ wishI could say that.08:15
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graabeincrimsun, yep08:15
dcravenmemnips, or 'ifup wlan0'.08:15
memnipsdcraven, i habe no idea what you are saying.  =P  im a newb.08:16
crimsungraabein: and what version is it from?08:16
graabeincrimsun, how do i find out?08:16
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Fazeryou know... crimsun, the ethernet is workign just fucking fine.08:16
Fazeromg!08:16
angeldusted<308:16
Fazerogm!08:16
shiningmemnips,  you could maybe try "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart"08:16
FazerOMG!08:16
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tdx;)08:16
graabeinFazer, yippie!08:16
memnipsshining, do you think using a static IP instead of dhcp would help?08:16
Fazerhorray, but boo @ boot parameters08:16
dcravenmemnips, I don't know how to do this in a GUI.. But if you open a terminal and type "dhclient wlan0" then your machine will ask the router for it's IP address.08:17
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crimsungraabein: strings /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o|grep ^"nvidia id"08:17
memnipsdcraven, ah ok.08:17
angeldustedohh ehi608:17
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angeldustedohh shit08:17
graabeinnvidia id: NVIDIA X Driver  1.0-7174  Tue Mar 22 06:48:37 PST 200508:17
angeldustedI thought this was hts08:17
angeldusted=/08:17
angeldustedheh08:17
crimsungraabein: please paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto pastebin.com08:18
Fazercrimsun: So, you are awesome.08:18
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Fazercrimsun: Yes?08:18
angeldustedok08:18
angeldustedsee you guys later08:18
crimsunFazer: huh?08:18
Fazercrimsun: thanks...ethernet magically works!08:18
crimsunFazer: np08:18
graabeinhttp://pastebin.com/27128008:18
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Coilywhats the latest kernel release, 2.6.8.xx??08:18
dcravenFazer, does that mean you can stop the cursing now?08:19
membreya1108:19
envelCoily, 2.6.11.708:19
Fazerdcraven: NEver!08:19
Fazerdcraven: Sorry , yes =(08:19
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crimsunCoily: Hoary uses 2.6.10+patches, the latest is listed on kernel.org08:19
mrimbertCoily, but 2.6.11 is not supported in Hoary08:19
crimsungraabein: looking08:19
dcravenCoily, 2.6.10 is the last supported version I think.08:19
Coilywould someone mind posting their /boot/grub/menu.list ubuntu entry?08:20
guru3anyone else here had apt-getting python2.4 fail?08:20
Coilyjust pm me it08:20
envelCoily, for what?08:20
crimsungraabein: unfortunately that's the version with "nv", not "nvidia"08:20
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Coilycrosscheck08:20
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Fazercrimsun: How did you know of those commands!08:20
crimsungraabein: we need to see the version with "nvidia"08:20
BoneZWhat is the hexadecimal for F? 15 right?08:20
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crimsunFazer: reading.08:21
Fazercrimsun: Can you tell me what you read?08:21
graabeincrimsun, so... i have to replace the driver part in xorg.conf?08:21
crimsunFazer: that page.08:21
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Fazercrimsun: Are yu sure  it was that page? I didn't find much under 600E08:21
crimsungraabein: yes, and make sure Load "glx" is _uncommented_08:21
omegSo. Maybe someone can help me now? I've downloaded and extracted the Mozilla Suite installer--there's an executable inside which I can't open.08:21
omegDouble-clicking just doesn't work.08:21
mcdonaldswesBoneZ: yes, F=1508:21
graabeincrimsun, okay, i'm on it08:21
BoneZok, thanks08:21
crimsunFazer: many hardware problems are exhibited in different laptops08:22
Coilywould someone mind pming me their /boot/grub/menu.list ubuntu entry?08:22
crimsunFazer: some such problems appear across multiple makes and models08:22
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Fazercrimsun: Oh, I see08:22
BoneZIf I got a block with 30724312 with: Start: 1040 and End: 4864 How many GB would I then have?08:22
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BoneZLike 30GB?08:22
reon_crimsun:  http://www.pastebin.com/27127908:23
envelis there any mailslot-based gnome messenger?08:23
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BoneZ30724312+ is the correct block08:23
Fazercrimsun: So I guess I will be doing in install now....when launching the INstaller, do I pass the same boot options but instead of "live" i put "linux" ?08:23
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reon_crimsun: reon@mamoth:~$ sudo modprobe nvidia08:24
crimsunreon_: you did not comment _out_ Load "dri"08:24
reon_FATAL: Module nvidia not found.08:24
crimsunreon_: did you follow wiki/BinaryDriverHowto?08:24
reon_crimsun: which file is that in ?08:24
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crimsunreon_: did you follow wiki/BinaryDriverHowto?08:25
tritiumreon, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:25
Coilywould someone mind pming me their /boot/grub/menu.list ubuntu entry?08:25
reon_crimsun: Yes, But I did not see anything about removing Load "dri"08:26
tritiumreon, that's noted in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz08:26
crimsunreon_: that's because ..glx-enable does that08:26
Chipparnhi. need help with something.. im trying to add extra repositories. i got this page to help me: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories . and im getting this error : warning nothing exported, no valid openpgp data found when im trying this command: gpg --armor --export 1F4B907 | sudo apt-key add -08:26
Fazercrimsun: So I guess I will be doing in install now....when launching the INstaller, do I pass the same boot options but instead of "live" i put "linux" ?08:27
reon_crimsun: Should I remove the Load "dri" line ?08:27
crimsunFazer: use the help menu to find out which image name you should use08:27
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Fazercrimsun: Hmm, that is the tricky part as there are various sub menus08:27
crimsunreon_: no, follow the directions on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:27
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reon_crimsun: Think I'm learning here. My restricted modules does not match my kernal. I change to K8 instead of generic08:30
crimsunreon_: ok08:30
reon_crimsun: thanks, I feel like a real twit, lesson learnt, dont just assume things.08:31
Coilywould someone mind pming me their /boot/grub/menu.list ubuntu entry?08:31
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reon_coily, ok08:31
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Coilyreon_, thanks08:32
Fazercrimsun, I am now trying to configure the sound.08:32
zimba-tmhem, what sound editor could I use ? I want to cut some mp3, really basic editing08:32
crimsunsnd-cs4236 should work08:32
crimsunzimba-tm: audacity08:32
Fazercrimsun, this is what I did:08:33
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zimba-tmthanks crimsun08:33
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Fazersudo modprobe cs423208:33
reon_Coily: I'm trying to DCC you.08:33
FazerBut I got this:08:33
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crimsunFazer: that's the oss driver, don't use it.08:33
FazerFATAL: Error inserting cs4232 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/oss/cs4232.ko): No such device08:33
Fazercrimsun, : ooh08:33
crimsunuse the one I sadi08:33
crimsunsaid^08:33
crimsunif it doesn't work, pass isapnp=008:34
tweeki just poped in to say, hoary hedgehog owns me :D08:34
crimsunI have to go back to work.08:34
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graabeincrimsun, http://pastebin.com/27128708:34
Fazercrimsun: Do I use that with modprobe?08:34
omegIs there anybody who can help me with a (probably VERY simple) problem?08:34
graabeincrimsun, anyone else that can help me with nvidia driver problem?08:35
Burgundaviaomeg, sure08:35
omegI downloaded Mozilla Suite, and extracted it to my desktop. Now the installer binary in the extraction folder won't open. I can double-click it all I want, but nothing happens.08:35
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omegmozilla-installer-bin08:35
tritiumomeg, why are you not installing the mozilla packages from the repositories?08:35
Burgundaviaomeg, my question exactly08:35
omegI downloaded the Linux version from the site.08:36
Myrttiwhy?08:36
gdsWhy  on my k7 install Ubuntu itself with kernel for i386?08:36
Burgundaviaomeg, start system-->admin-->synatpic08:36
njangds, that's the default08:36
omegIs it included with Ubuntu by default?08:36
Burgundaviaomeg, then search for mozilla08:36
njangds, you can apt-get install your own kernel if you want.08:36
gdsIs it convenient to change kernel?08:36
Burgundaviaomeg, and it install it08:36
tritiumgds, if you want, grab linux-k708:37
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njanomeg, firefox is bundled by default in ubuntu, which is a faster browser built around mozilla. If you want the whole mozilla suite, you can install it via synaptic as Burgundavia points out.08:37
omegOkay, I'll try that. But still. It's strange that I'm unable to double-click an executable.08:37
gdstritium,  have you grabbed it?08:37
tritiumgds, I don't have a k7, no08:37
njanomeg, as a general rule, you should be able to install *any* remotely common package using synaptic or apt-get at the commandline08:37
bur[n] eromeg: u sure it's marked as executable?08:38
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Fazercrimsun: I get no such device with the isapnp=0 paramter.08:38
tritiumgds, sudo apt-get install linux-k7, if you want it08:38
omegbur[n] er: positive, it's indicated as an executable.08:38
Burgundaviaomeg, proabably becuase you need sudo privs08:38
bur[n] erbah, screw it... dont' use the mozilla installer ;)  apt-get08:38
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graabeincan anyone help me with my nvidia problems? i've posted the Xorg.conf here: http://pastebin.com/27128708:38
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gdsthanks tritium08:38
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omeg<Burgundavia> omeg, start system-->admin-->synatpic <-- I can't find it. :p In the "applications" folder?08:39
tritiumgds, sure08:39
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Burgundaviaomeg, Synaptic Package Manger08:39
tritiumgraabein, that's not your xorg.conf ;) (it's /var/log/Xorg.0.log)08:39
GugaI have warty on a 2nd hd, Hoary on the 1st.  I get text only on the 2nd hd.  How can I fix this?08:39
Sh4dkelkun pourais m'aider ? comme un con j'ais dsinstaller gnome-panel08:39
Sh4det j'arrive pas a le rinstaller :-(08:39
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graabeintritium, hehe, sorry, i meant the Xorg.0.log08:40
tritiumSh4d, #ubuntu-fr08:40
Sh4dah thx08:40
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reagleBRKLNcloses i've seen is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MacOnLinuxHowto#building-the-mol-modules08:41
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GugaI can access my 2nd hd, but no desktop08:41
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graabeintritium, what do you reckon the problem is? i can't start x with the "nvidia" driver08:42
gdsCan I alternatively use fglrx driver and open source ati driver?08:42
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gds(Changing xorg.conf)08:42
tweekwhen i run lilconfig i get four choices for bitmaps, is there any particular one to choose?08:42
tritiumgraabein, I'm looking it the log now.  Is that the whole thing?08:42
tweekliloconfig*08:42
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graabeintritium, yep08:42
Myrttililoconfig?08:43
Myrttiwhy liloconfig?08:43
gdsAti proprietary driver is broken but It's accelerated08:43
tweekto configure lilo08:43
tweekbecause grub isnt working08:43
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Myrttioh08:43
omeg<Burgundavia> omeg, Synaptic Package Manger <-- I've found Applications --> Accessories --> Package Manager, but not a "Synaptic Package Manager". There's a whole bunch of files in the one I have, and I can't really find Mozilla. :p08:43
tritiumgraabein, hard to say, particularly since you installed from nvidia's binaries, rather than ubuntu packages08:44
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Burgundaviaomeg, you have 2 menus or three?08:44
cens0redhey is the package free-java-sdk really a complete sdk?08:44
graabeintritium, how do i remove the binaries?08:44
cens0redhey is the package free-java-sdk really a complete java sdk? with jre?08:44
tweekMyrtti is there any particular one i should use?08:44
omegSorry, nevermind, I just found it in Computer --> System Configuration.08:44
tritiumgraabein, I've never used them, so I can't say08:44
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Myrttitweek: I have no idea, I use grub. I was just wondering why you use lilo08:45
tritiumcens0red, if you want java, follow Method 2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java08:45
tweekok :\08:45
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omegI just installed Mozilla. That was the easiest installation ever.08:45
graabeintritium, how do i verify if open gl is running as it should?08:45
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tritiumomeg, ;)08:46
Guga2nd hardrive won't show a desktop, just text of my files08:46
Burgundaviaomeg, welcome to the wonders of a debian based distro08:46
omeg:)08:46
tritiumgraabein, I'm not sure of the best way...08:46
omegGreat system.08:46
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cens0redtritium you mean make my own deb package with checkinstall or sumthin?08:46
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SpaceNutsomeg, welcome to the wonderful world of package managers08:46
tritiumcens0red, with java-package08:46
Gugahow can I move files from my warty hd to my hoary hd?08:47
SpaceNutsGuga: mv ?08:47
Gugamv, SpaceNuts?08:47
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SpaceNutsomeg: for tips on installing things see http://www.ubuntuguide.org/08:47
gunnyI need some samba help08:47
omegI guess that leaves me with just one problem. The resolution of 1920x1200 seems unsupported. I edited my XF86Config-4 file, and added the "1920x1200" resolution to every single mode, but it still won't show up even after a cold reboot.08:47
omegThanks, SpaceNuts.08:47
SpaceNutsGuga: what exactly do you want to do, move files from one partition to another?08:48
Gugayes, SpaceNuts08:48
cens0redtritium I don't understand sorry.08:48
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gunnytrying to share 2 directories on my ubuntu box with my XP box08:48
tritiumcens0red, it's on the URL.  Please read Method 208:48
gunnynobody uses these boxes but me08:48
SpaceNutsomeg: try /etc/xorg.conf08:48
guru3anyone have anyidea why my xorg is missing the vesa driver?08:48
omegThanks.08:48
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SpaceNutsGuga: well have you got both partitions mounted?08:49
Gugayes, SpaceNuts08:49
omeg/etc/xorg.org is a "new file".08:49
mjromeg, either your monitor settings don't allow for such high a resolution, in which case you should fix them, or there's no builtin mode for that (I'm not sure), in which case google for modeline 1920x1200.08:49
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omegI've always used 1920x1200 on Windows XP, so it's possible for my hardware. Maybe it's because I'm using the vesa driver?08:49
mjromeg, oh yeah, that; it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:49
SpaceNutsGuga: ok what is the path for the source partition and what is the path for the destination partition?08:49
GugaIDE 0 and IDE 108:50
mjrit's quite possible that the vesa driver can't initialize that mode08:50
cens0redtritium I did make my own deb package from the sun (TM) j2sdk_1.4.2_03-1_i386.rpm using alien. Is that much the same thing?08:50
SpaceNutsmjr and omeg, mjr is right, sorry for that it is indeed /etc/X11/xorg.cong08:50
omegI was told to try /etc/X11/xorg.conf before by a friend, but that didn't exist either. I edited /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 instead.08:50
SpaceNuts* xorg.conf08:50
mjryou should really see the log file08:50
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mjr(of the X server)08:50
tritiumcens0red, I suppose so.  I've not used alien.08:50
mjromeg, still using warty, then?08:50
omegEr, yeah. =) I ordered the CDs a while back.08:50
SpaceNutsGuga: the paths in your filesystem, for example /mnt/disk108:50
omegSo there's already been a major update since?08:50
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mjrright, then that's the correct file. Just see /var/log/XFree86.0.log08:51
Gugalet me check, SpaceNuts08:51
SpaceNutsOmeg: yes it is now a half year past ubuntu, and the next release has been last friday08:51
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GugaComputer/Filesytem, SpaceNuts08:51
omegIs there any way for me to update to the latest version (5.04, I see) in this version through an updater? Or in the terminal?08:52
zimba-tmanyone has tries to use bluetooth in gnome ? I think it's supposed to be integrated with nautilus, but I don't know where08:52
omegOr do I have to redownload the new package and use that to upgrade?08:52
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graabeintritium, or others, does this: (WW) NVIDIA(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum    cause a problem?08:52
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bassMonkeywhen I try to open a .rar file I made in winace with archiver it says archive type not supported... The question is why, becouse I have installed rar08:52
tritiumgraabein, it could, but at least that's just a warning08:52
gunnyomeg, there are great instructions for getting haory on ubuntuforums.org08:52
omegThanks.08:53
dr_willisbassMonkey,  try it from the shell.08:53
delirebassMonkey: you installed unrar?08:53
gunnybasically change your apt.sources to point to hoary then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade08:53
graabeintritium, x won't start with the nvidia-driver so the error must be in the xorg.0.log?08:53
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dr_willisbassMonkey,  thers also some non-free versions of rar/unrar out that may be newer08:53
graabeinsorry, i'm a newbie08:53
mjromeg, there's also instructions at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryHedgehog08:54
mjrunder "how to upgrade"...08:54
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tritiumgraabein, it should be, yes08:54
deliregraabein: never apologise for being a newbie. you're absolutely allowed to ask Q's from time to time ;)08:54
gunnythank goodness ;)08:54
graabeinthanks, i just don't wanna nag! :)08:54
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dr_willisJust call us Sir! :P08:55
dr_willisand grovel a bit.08:55
graabeinhehe08:55
gunnyanyone feel like tackling Samba?08:55
graabeini'll be real pleased when i get the gfx to run, that's for sure!08:56
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SpaceNutsgunny what exactly is the issue08:56
gunnyI have an XP box that can see the samba server, but not the 2 folders I have shared08:56
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gunnyvery basic in home system me and the wife are the only users08:57
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dr_willisfor samba and windows  - i always seem to have to set the 'browseable' feature in the samba config on the shares.08:57
danthemanwoudl anybody be willing to look at my xorg.conf and help me figure out why x can't load with my two monitors08:57
dantheman?08:57
gunnyI have verified smb is running and I can see the shares when I browse network from ubuntu08:57
SpaceNutsok you did set the shares08:57
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gunnyyes they are set08:57
SpaceNutsyou did already restart the smb daemon?08:57
gunnydoing that now08:58
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dr_willisgunny,  also - i find that i have to make the xp users and linux users with identical names/passwords.  AND use smbpasswd to make them have samba passwords also.08:58
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dr_willisbut ive fought with samba over the years.. and a lot of this may not be needed any more.08:58
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omegI've browsed the Ubuntu forums for a while, but I'm still uncertain if there's a way to actually auto-update Warty to Hoary.08:59
omegBut if there is, I'll keep looking. :p08:59
gunnyshould the icon on a directory change to indicate it is shared?08:59
dr_willisgunny,  hmm you are setting the shares from the gnome interface?09:00
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delireomeg: you should be able to dist-upgrade once you've added hoary to your repository list.09:00
gunnyyes dr_willis09:00
bassMonkeydelire: that was a good point, works now09:00
bassMonkeythanks09:00
gunnybut they showd up in smb.conf09:00
reagleBRKLNurd:/home/reagle> fusermount /tmp/crypt /tmp/crypt-raw/09:00
delirebassMonkey: ok np..09:00
rijihow to make the gnome-menu transparent?09:00
guru3any idea why my xserver does not have the vesa driver?09:00
reagleBRKLN-rwsr-xr--  1 root fuse 17068 Mar 18 07:52 /usr/bin/fusermount*09:00
dr_willisgunny,  i normally just make 'home' shares in the smb configs.  i also set the home shares to be browseable.09:00
reagleBRKLNi just added myself to fuse09:00
reagleBRKLNshouldn't i be able to execute it09:00
dr_willisgunny,  but ive not messed with this much under ubuntu..09:00
gunnysmb noob09:00
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dr_willisgunny,  you did check out 'ubuntuguide.org' ? they have info on this09:01
Fazer** (network-admin:23105): CRITICAL **: gst_xml_element_set_content: assertion `node != NULL' failed09:01
delireguru3: to be sure 'sudo modprobe -l | grep vesa'09:01
Fazerwhoops09:01
dr_willisgunny,  and thers a online book on samba thats free09:01
dr_willisbyee. all work time09:01
Fazerthat is the error I get when I try to enable my wlan card =(09:01
gunnytheu used to the new guide just shows how to install samba it seems09:01
rijiOr how to make everythig transparent on the startpanel?09:01
Fazerhas anyone here had success with broadcom wlan cards?09:02
guru3delire: hmmm, nothing there...09:02
delireFazer: hmm what is the card? 'lspci | grep Wireless' perhaps09:02
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delireguru3: you're right, that is odd. what graphic card are you using anyway?09:02
Fazerdelire: Sure, hold on.09:02
guru3delire: im on a mac09:02
delireFazer: ahah broadcom... no that's enough info09:02
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Fazerdelire: lol09:03
delireguru3: ok.. (and good for you).09:03
guru3yeah... better if it'd work ><09:03
guru3the console is framebuffer09:03
guru3but fbdev doesn't work09:03
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delireguru3: hey you should disenable all the framebuffer stuff while trouble shooting X.09:03
delires/disenable/disable09:03
Fazerdelire: so....what would you suggest on doing?09:03
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guru3delire: i don't think i can do that09:03
Ti_Uhlhello09:03
Ti_Uhl:)09:03
delireFazer: have you installed wireless-tools?09:03
Fazerdelire: do I have to?09:04
Fazeri have my ethernet jacked in09:04
delireguru3: ok 'lspci | grep VGA'09:04
Fazerso i have to remove my ethernet card and put in the wifi card.09:04
delireFazer: but you said wlan.. which do you want to configure?09:04
omegHmm. Synaptic Package Manager doesn't show Hoary as a package. How would I add it to my repository list?09:04
guru3delire: 0000:00:07.0 VGA compatible controller: Decision Computer International Co.: Unknown device 666609:04
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delireFazer: guru3: jeziz how old is the mac?09:04
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guru3not very...09:05
jintxograabein, /join #ubuntu-es09:05
delireguru3: never heard of that card..09:05
ChoubakaHm09:05
Fazerdelire: Eh?09:05
delireguru3: ok no matter. have you tried with svga?09:05
guru3no09:05
ChoubakaWhy the hell don't any decent clients exist for DC on Linux09:05
delireFazer: you want to get your wlan up and running?09:05
Ti_Uhli've upgraded to hoary with apt but i always get the message that x-window-system-core is been kept back, i still run on Xfree but how do i update to Xorg ?09:05
delireguru3: see if you have it 'modprobe -l | grep svga'09:06
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guru3also not found09:06
graabeinjintxo, what for?09:06
onkarshindeWhich is th ebest speech recognition software on linux (specifically Ubuntu)?09:06
jintxograabein, sorry.. tab completion :-p09:06
queuetueWhere would I go to buy a copy of UT, and have it marked down as a linux purchase, not a Windows one?09:06
delireguru3: though it's probably compiled into the kernel.. you have tried using 'vesa' in your X display settings? /etc/xorg.conf09:06
queuetue(UT -= Unreal Tournament)09:07
guru3yeah09:07
guru3it says module not found09:07
delireguru3: ok.. but you have tried vesa09:07
guru3yes09:07
delireguru3: and what was the error output?09:07
Ti_Uhli've upgraded to hoary with apt but i always get the message that x-window-system-core is been kept back, i still run on Xfree but how do i update to Xorg ? anyone ?09:07
guru31 sec09:07
omegI'm on Warty, and I want to upgrade to Hoary, can I do this in my Synaptic Package Manager?09:07
delireguru3: don't flood here though! just the line09:07
delirejoin #pyogre09:07
delirehow's it going..09:08
delireyou work all day and then this ;)09:08
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Fazerdelire: yes, yes i do?09:08
malikasalut09:08
Fazeri am using a mn 720 microsoft wlan card09:08
delirejoin #ubuntu09:08
FazerI guess its on the broadcom chipset09:08
malikahello09:08
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onkarshindeWhich is th ebest speech recognition software on linux (specifically Ubuntu)?09:08
delireFazer: ok can you 'sudo iwconfig' ?09:08
Fazersure hold on09:08
rijiis there a package with Apache+PHP+Mysql all together?09:08
Fazerdelire: I dont have my wlan card plugged in though09:09
FazerI can only plug in one card at a time.09:09
queuetueriji, Why?09:09
GhostFreemanHow can I remove Kubuntu and all the additional software in installed09:09
GhostFreemanit*09:09
kemalHi, I just installed 4.10 and root privileges, but it does not allow me??09:09
delireFazer: are you writing from the machine you're trying to configure?09:09
omegOh well. Don't really have much more time now... I'm gonna boot back to Windows and solve my problems at a later date. Thanks for your help for now, all. =)09:09
Fazerdelire: Yes.09:09
Fazerdelire: I am on the laptop with the ethernet on.  Trying to see if I can get teh wifi going ;)09:09
jintxoriji, you could install phpbb and you would get it all at once :-) (you'd also get phpbb, heh)09:09
delireFazer: hmm, so you'll be offline if you plug in the card. that makes it difficult.09:10
onkarshindeAny speech recognition software for linux?09:10
Fazerdelire: i am beside a desktop though...that is plugged into the router so I can be connected, kind of.09:10
delireFazer: that'd be wise..09:10
queuetueriji, just apt-get them all indivdually...09:10
Fazerdelire: alright, connecting.09:10
rijinever configed apcahe etc under linux before :S09:10
delireonkarshinde: apt-cache search speech recognition09:10
guru3delire: "failed to load modules "vesa" module does not exist"09:10
delireguru3: jeziz that seems odd. is this Warty or Hoary?09:11
onkarshindedelire: Can you explain the output of command?09:11
guru3hoary09:11
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RQWooHoo! :)09:11
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register2223hi09:12
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Fazer_delire: Okay.09:12
delireonkarshinde: apt-cache search <keyword> searches all the package repositories for which you have listed based on the keyword.09:12
onkarshindedelire: thanks09:12
rijihow the hell do i get accessto a dir on linux :S09:13
riji"you don't have premission"09:13
Fazer_delire: So i did iwconfig09:13
Fazer_i see some stuff for wlan009:13
queuetueriji, sudo.  (Have you read any docs?)09:13
Fazer_Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00:0009:13
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Fazer_Power Management: off09:13
cens0redhmmm ... my windows partition doesn't appear in my /boot/grub/menu.lst09:13
rijiwell how to do sudo in the browser?09:14
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delireFazer_: ok.. don't spam it all here.. ;)09:14
guru3delire: does it hurt that the hoary cd wouldn't boot so i sort of hacked my install off of debian?09:14
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Fazer_delire: yeah, i am manually tpying so I am limited to my spam ;)09:14
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[DarKrusheR] hi09:14
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delireFazer_: now this 'sudo iwlist wlan0 scanning'09:14
delireFazer_: see any access points?09:14
Fazer_delire: Hold on.09:14
Fazer_delire: But...my wifi card isn't even blinking or anything, its like its off.09:15
delireguru3: hmm so this isn't a fresh hoary install. ok what does 'uname -r' give you?09:15
guru32.4.18-newpmac09:15
Fazer_delire: I get wlan0       No scan results09:15
delireFazer: ok then do this to see what's happening. 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog' and look at the output as you plug in and unplug the card.09:15
Fazer_delire: okay.09:16
delireFazer: /var/log/syslog is the system log for your entire machine. tail 'watches' or follows this log.09:16
guru3delire: it's cause my system wouldn't boot 2.6 kernels :/09:16
Fazer_delire: alright, I see some activity.09:16
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Fazer_sutffstuff like wlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device09:17
delireguru3: if i were you i'd join debian-ppc and ask them there. all modern macs run beautifully on 2.6.* kernels. if i were you i wouldn't tell them you're running Ubuntu just yet. just ask the questions you need answered there. if you have no luck come back and ask me. BTW simonrvn is your man for all ppc issues.09:17
Fazer_gives me the driver name.09:17
delireFazer: well then you're very close09:17
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Fazer_delire: Awesome.09:17
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delireFazer: anyway, give me 2 mins..09:18
guru3delire: ok, thnx09:18
Fazer_i also see DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 2009:18
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delireFazer: putting on some coffee09:18
queuetueIt kind of stinks that Ubuntu users have to slum when we're asking for help in #debian... :)09:18
Fazer_delire: hehe cool!09:18
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stashi guys09:18
stianhGreetings again people!09:18
stascan you please help me out with some of the things09:18
stasthat I used in Windows09:18
stasthat I can't figure out how to do in ubuntu?09:19
e-typestas: fire away09:19
queuetueriji, I would not use nautilus, or the "browser" if i were you.  If you insist on using the GUI to manipulate files, I hope someone wil help you, because I won't. :)09:19
stasok :)09:19
stascan I remap my capslock key09:19
stasto act as a Winkey?09:19
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stasand my RAlt key as capslock?09:19
ArcaneIs there ANY WAY to log in as root? I'm getting tired of opening root terminals every half second.09:19
queuetueArcane, sudo -s09:20
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queuetueArcane, Or. jus tpuch "root console" fromt he menu. :)09:20
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queuetueArcane, Oh, I muisunderstood what you wanted.09:20
queuetueArcane, You want to *run* as root?09:21
stasand09:21
stasI want to be able to launch apps by using global shortcuts09:21
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stasis that possible?09:21
stasso like09:21
graabeinanyone tried games.yahoo chess?09:21
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queuetueArcane, I don't recommend that.  Typing sudo is such a tiny price to pay for not nuking yur system with an improper twitch. :)09:21
stascapslock-r to bring up the altf2 window09:21
e-typestas: remap using xmodmap09:21
Arcane... Nuking my system?09:21
e-typestas: http://support.cis.ksu.edu/docs/user/faq/unix/keymaps.html09:21
ArcaneIt's already quite nuked, since I can't get apt-get to get a file off my computer and Ubuntu hates my modem.09:21
stasor ctrl-alt-left to run 3ddesk09:21
stasthanks, e-type09:22
Fazer_delire: tell me when you are ready =)09:22
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delireFazer_: yep back09:22
e-typestas: the commands executed on keypresses is other stuff than the remapping09:22
graabeinhow do i search channels in irc? i forgot09:22
stasoh09:22
stascan I do it?09:22
Fazer_Delgul: Okay...its activingat the interface wlan009:22
stianhHey, I'm trying to access my Creative Zen Touch jukebox with Gnomad2, however, there seems to be some permissionerrors, I only gain access to the content of my mp3-player as root, though it does recognize that the player is connected as a regular user.09:22
stianhany suggestions?09:22
stasalso, I would really like global xmms shortcuts09:22
staslike09:22
graabeinx-chat09:22
ArcaneIs there any command to install a package?09:23
stascaps-z to track back09:23
ArcaneNot from apt-get?09:23
rijihow to give a user right to a dir?09:23
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stascaps-x to play09:23
stasetc09:23
rijisudo chmod ????09:23
delireFazer_: ok there are two really useful commands for using network devices on linux. 'ifup' == interface up and 'ifdown' == interface down (or off)09:23
delireFazer_: try 'ifup wlan0'09:23
Fazer_delire: Understood.09:23
Fazer_okay09:23
dazed|classsup all09:23
vasiThe packages mplayer-powerpc and mplayer-g4 in multiverse are completely broken, there's no executable included. I have a five-line patch which fixes them...where should i send it?09:23
Fazer_delire: Should I sudo it?09:23
Fazer_I get permission denied09:23
delireyep09:23
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kentriji, in the desktop, you can rightclick on folders and change it frome there..    (if its own by root, then sudo chmod..)09:24
Fazer_okay09:24
_-InMa-_buenas noches, good nitgh09:24
Fazer_it says Listening and sending stuff..09:24
deliregood09:24
Fazer_still no blinking lights.09:24
rijiyeah, but sudo chmod and what else :S09:24
stashow would I do that?09:24
delireFazer_: you want to look for an "offer" from a DHCP server09:24
stasit was really simple in windows...09:24
Fazer_delire: "No DCHPFFERS received."09:25
ArcanePackage install? Anyone?09:25
Fazer_"No workign leases in persisent database - sleeping."09:25
e-typestas: you mean controlling xmms with the keyboard when xmms doesn't have the focus?09:25
delireFazer_: hmm.. ok. so now if you 'iwlist wlan0 scanning' do you see any access points at all?09:25
Fazer_Nopers09:25
Fazer_I would if probably my wlan card powers up.09:25
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Fazer_doing 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' also does't do anything09:26
jafar00hi ubuntu people09:26
delireFazer_: ok well it seems that your wlan card is installed and running fine however. are you sure the AP is on?09:26
sklphi09:26
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Fazer_delire: definitely./09:26
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jafar00can anyone tell me if ubuntu ppc is any good for a rev d imac?09:26
Fazer_i am connected to the wifi router (this desktop)09:26
kentriji, sudo chmod o+r (i think that meens o=other, and r=read.  w=write, and x=write.)09:26
Fazer_and a while ago, the laptop was also connected to the wifi router via ethernet.09:26
Fazer_wifi lights are all blinking.09:27
ArcaneCould anyone tell me how to install packages in terminal?09:27
delireFazer_: hmm..09:27
jafar00i tried Mandrake and had trouble with installing the bootloader (yaboot) Does Ubuntu correctly install the bootloader?09:27
delireFazer_: does iwconfig list wlan0?09:27
stase-type,09:27
KeizerLMFAO: http://filebox.vt.edu/users/xmayox/5720322434.gif09:27
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stasyes that's what I mean09:27
Fazer_delire: Yes09:28
stasparticularly if I'm in a full-screen game or something09:28
delireArcane: apt-cache search <keyword>, apt-get install <packagename>09:28
Fazer_IEEE 802.11g09:28
Arcane... So you can use apt-get to install a package in the current directory? :\09:28
ArcaneI can't use internet under Ubuntu yet.09:28
delireArcane: it will isntall to it's proper place no matter where you invoke the command09:28
Arcane... delire, can it install a package that is currently IN the directory?09:29
e-typestas: use keyboard shortcuts for commands like 'xmms --play'09:29
ArcaneI don't CARE where it install, I wanna know if I can install it from the current directory.09:29
jintxoArcane, you should probably do dpkg -i <package> for that09:29
delireFazer_: ok.. and you see no listing of the AP with iwlist.. odd09:29
e-typestas: man xmms tells you all09:29
Fazer_delire: Yeah =(09:29
delireArcane: dpkg -i <pacakge>09:29
ArcaneThank you. o_o09:29
ArcaneNow I gotta restart etc. Brb, hopefully09:30
delireFazer_: <thinks>09:30
jafar00PPC Ubuntu: Can anyone tell me if it correctly installs te bootloader?09:30
delireyes it should09:30
stasok09:31
stasthat's easy09:31
stasbut09:31
jafar00delire: thanks. I hope so :)09:31
delirei've installed Ubuntu on 11 macs09:31
Fazer_delire: hehe, my ethernet wasn't working much either until crimsun told me some boot parameters.09:31
stashow do I set up the global shortcuts themselves?09:31
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delireFazer_: well this should be fine. do you see any errors with the tail command i gave earlier? plugging in it and taking it out..09:31
Fazer_delire: Nope...09:31
Fazer_i just see DHCPDISCOVER on wlan009:32
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Fazer_delire: Maybe i didn't install the driver properly?09:32
jafar00delire: Have you tried Mandrake on any of them? Did you have the same problem of the bootloader being stuffed up? Mandrake gave me a long command to type in at ofboot, but the abd keyboard on the Imac doesn't have the \ key. LOL09:32
delireFazer_: using lspci, can you give me the full output/description of the card (in one line)?09:32
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PeteHellodmesg shows me what hardware is configured right?  How would I check to see if my sound card is recognized?09:32
delirejafar00: i wouldn't go near mandrake, so no.09:32
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jafar00lol :D09:33
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Fazer_delire: Will do09:33
Fazer_Network Controler: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown Device 4325 (rev 02)09:34
danthemanctrl-alt-backspace quit restarting X09:34
danthemanany idea how i can change it back?09:34
Fazer_delire: Network Controler: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown Device 4325 (rev 02)09:34
deliregot it09:34
delireFazer_: how did you install the driver?09:34
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delireFazer_: also.. which kernel version are you running?09:34
Fazer_delire: using Hoary09:35
Slavenyou guys know of any way to get 3d apps maximizing on one head in a dual screen environment (and not stretching out between two)?09:35
Fazer_using 2.6.1009:35
delireok09:35
Fazer_I installed it via ndiswrapper09:35
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delirei'll look around. one moment.09:35
Fazer_sure09:36
Fazer_delire: I used this URL as a guide as well: http://tuxspot.blogspot.com/2005/02/microsoft-mn-720-driver-update.html09:37
Fazer_and the How to for broadcom on ubuntu forums09:37
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delireFazer_: hmm ok.. well i would check this page for more information. it looks like one person who had similar problems had it solved here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/41/2005/01/3/27752709:37
Fazer_oh, awesome.09:38
delireFazer_: sorry i can't be of more help.. it seems to me that i can only go so far without having the card itself. i use a centrino ipw220 card for wifi.09:38
Fazer_delire: thanks though09:38
delirenp09:38
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oxigenhi all!09:39
oxigenhmm, if i run "xprop -root" does NAUTILUS_DESKTOP_WINDOW_ID render background?09:39
guru3delire: it just randomly started working09:39
oxigenis there a way to render root-tail on desktop?09:39
delireSlaven: it sounds like you are talking about 'xinerama'?09:39
delireguru3: did you change/try anything else?09:40
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Fazer_delire: So, I think I will try another driver out.  Do you think I should remove the one I am using?09:40
guru3delire: i just put it back to the original file with the fbdev device and it magically worked09:40
guru3i can't explain it09:40
delireFazer_: yes, definitely if you want to try another driver09:40
delireguru3: the clue will be in the differences between the two files then. you can always 'diff <file1> <file2> to see the differences09:41
Fazer_alright,t hanks.09:41
delireanytime09:41
guru3delire: just the device, all i changed09:41
delireguru3: well that's a big difference ;) what did you change it to?09:42
delirefrom/to09:42
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guru3delire: it started out as fbdev09:42
guru3i just changed it back to that09:42
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jinx``hi09:42
jinx``is cedega better than wine?`09:43
raydogg_google "cedega vs wine"09:43
jinx``:)09:43
Echyloit depends raydogg_09:43
Echyloto give a more usefull answer09:43
Echyloeuhm09:44
mjrcedega's proprietary directx and copy protection support are more advanced to some extent09:44
Echylojinx``09:44
Echyloraydogg_ if everyone had to google for a question In here, it would be empty around here09:44
guru3any ideas why python fails to configure?09:44
Echylogoogle "why does python fails configure" << raydogg_ style :)09:45
Echylowhat did you do guru3 ?09:45
guru3Echylo: do? nothing09:45
guru3it's more like what it's _not_ doing09:45
Monnigoogle "what's the address for google" ;)09:45
dazedi got a lockup :(*09:45
Echyloguru3, you probably installed it?09:45
guru3Echylo: sure, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop09:45
guru3python is a dependency09:46
Echylook09:46
guru3just the configure of python fails09:46
guru3with a segfault of some sort09:46
Echylohmm09:46
guru3in the compileall script09:46
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Echyloyou tried to install it through synaptic? python 2.4 ?09:46
guru3apt09:47
guru3thru apt09:47
Echylowell ok09:47
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guru3i don't yet have a gui...09:47
cikilinhello09:47
Echylooh ok09:47
Echylohey cikilin09:47
cikilinhi09:47
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Echylowell guru3 wouldn't know how to help you then09:47
Echylosorry09:47
guru3i posted on the forums09:47
guru3i hope for the best :S09:47
Echylo:)09:48
cikilinwhat command is to find my Mac (Phisical Address):09:48
Zombifconfig09:48
cikilinand change it?09:48
Zombif your driver likes that, yes09:48
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Zombdon't forget to shut the iface down09:48
cikilinyou know in xp i could do that09:49
Zombas said, depends on the driver09:49
Zomb.oO( cheatter )09:49
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dazedim bored :(09:49
pestilenceFazer_: any luck?09:49
cikilink09:49
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cikilinzomb how can i change it?09:50
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Echylodazed, play supertux09:51
Echylo:p09:51
dazedsupertux?09:51
mjrEchylo, thanks for reminding09:51
dazedi need to get some nix games09:51
mjrthere were some of the bonus levels still...09:51
guru3hmm, does anyone elses nautilus take 25%+ cpu?09:51
Fazer_pestilence: omg! hi!09:51
Echyloyes mjr09:51
Echyloyou can make your own too btw09:51
Fazer_pestilence: well, I finally got the ethernet to work09:51
Fazer_had to pass some boot parameters09:52
pestilenceFazer_: cool09:52
Echylodazed , supertux, super mario like09:52
Echylobut with tux09:52
Fazer_pestilence: now, I am trying to config. my wifi card09:52
dazedno way09:52
dazedthats amazing09:52
Echyloyea09:52
dazedi have to get it09:52
Echylosudo apt-get install supertux09:52
pestilenceFazer_: so did you install?09:52
dazedtux is my favorite ever09:52
pestilenceFazer_: or still livecd09:52
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dazedis tuxkart like mario kart?09:52
Fazer_pestilence: Still live cd09:52
EchyloI completed it btw09:52
Echylo26 levels09:52
Fazer_if my wifi card works, then i will go with the install.09:52
pestilenceFazer_: you in it right now?09:52
Fazer_pestilence: I am on my desktop with the lappy right beside me09:52
dazedreally?!? thats awesome09:53
danthemanif i ssh into another computer09:53
Fazer_so, anything you say, I can just tyype itu p.09:53
danthemanand i hit emacs afileontheothercomputer &09:53
guru3im starting to think that im trying to do too much at once on my system...09:53
Fazer_right now i have my wlan card plugged in, i can plug in my ethernet card and then I will be on the internet with my livecd.09:53
danthemanit gives me a "Suspended (tty output)"09:53
danthemanhow can i actually see the file in emacs from the other computer09:53
dantheman?09:53
pestilenceFazer_: so did you try installing ndiswrapper-utils?09:54
guru3holy FZK i had no idea that xforwarding was enabled when i launched synaptic in an ssh connection ><09:54
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guru3well, i wondered what it was like but...09:54
danthemani try gedit, and it says "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"09:54
guru3not how i wanted to find out ><09:54
Fazer_pestilence: Oh yes, I used that .deb from my usb drive =)09:54
sklpdazed, get apt-get install bsdgames and play snake, it owns :)09:54
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pestilenceFazer_: so what seems to be the problem09:55
Echylosupertux!09:55
Fazer_pestilence: well, my wlan card just doesn't get on the network, not to mention, the lights don't blink/turn on09:55
sklpsupertux is fine, tho... u finished it ? :)09:55
sklpi did09:55
sklpa long time ago09:55
dazedEchylo: is tuxkart like mariokart?09:55
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Echylosort of09:56
Echyloit's not that fun09:56
delire_pestilence: with iwlist wlan0 scanning he sees no AP, so he's not associating.09:56
dazedreally?09:56
dazedsuper tux is better?09:56
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Fazer_bah phone09:56
pestilenceFazer_: if there are no lights, then i would say ndiswrapper didn't work09:56
danthemani need help using X over ssh09:56
danthemancan anyone help me?09:56
Echylodazed try it!09:56
useruserdantheman: ssh -X09:56
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EchyloBonus Isle Castle level is pretty hard09:56
delire_dantheman: have you enables X Forwarding?09:57
dazedEchylo: im getting both right now im just debating which one to play first :)09:57
Fazer_pestilence: damn09:57
delire_s/enables/enabled09:57
Fazer_The other mn-720 user did it on his blog with SuSe 9.209:57
dazedEchylo: are they full screen?09:57
Echylojup09:57
pestilenceFazer_: what does ndiswrapper -l tell you?09:57
Fazer_pestilence: I just removed the driver, but it used to tell me that mn720-ankh driver present, hardware present09:58
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pestilenceFazer_: strange.09:58
Fazer_very09:58
danthemani used ssh -X, and it worked09:59
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dazedFazer_: you get eth0 to work?09:59
Kishudoes linux work with 64k FAT32?09:59
tommyhi09:59
sklpsupertux is a lot better than tux kart IMHO09:59
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Fazer_dazed: yes!!09:59
dazedFazer_: good good what was going on?09:59
Echylowtfeck10:00
Fazer_dazed: I guess i was running with some broken hardware or something, i had to pass some boot parameters10:00
Fazer_like, noacpi and stuff like that10:00
dazedFazer_: ahhh yeah i have to run that righ tnow10:00
dazedlol10:00
KishuDoes linux support 64k clusters with FAT32?10:00
Fazer_ah, hehe10:00
dazedFazer_: or else i get lockups every 3 - 12 minutes10:00
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Fazer_dazed: Ah, I see.10:00
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supertedI have done dpkg reconfigure locales and chose my correct layoyt, but I can't get norwegian characters in aterm, everything else works, any idea?10:01
Fazer_maybe I will try another driver or somethign I guess.10:02
pestilenceFazer_: so can you reinstall the mn720-ankh driver10:02
Fazer_pestilence: I did that twice =) same effect.10:02
pestilenceFazer_: and modprobe ndiswrapper10:02
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pestilenceFazer_: and see what lspci tells you?10:02
Fazer_pestilence: yeah, i did the modprobe and what not.10:02
pestilenceFazer_: ok.10:02
Fazer_I also had to do a sed command.10:02
pestilenceFazer_: maybe it's the wrong driver then.10:02
Fazer_I then did sudo network-manager, I see the network card and what not10:03
Fazer_I guess it isn't seeing an acess point.10:03
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Fazer_Yeah, seems strange.10:03
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guru3i get this error launching gnome: "** (gnome-cups-icon:9462): WARNING **: failed request with status 1030"10:04
pestilenceFazer_: so iwconfig shows a card?10:04
guru3any ideas ne1?10:04
Fazer_pestilence: Yeah10:04
Fazer_It shows it as a Braodcom Corporation one.10:04
TTT_Travisdoes ubuntu run on old hardware ( Pentium 133Mhz with 80MB or ram)10:04
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djm62546 peeples? :)10:05
pestilenceFazer_: oh.10:05
pestilenceFazer_: so, my card won't do iwlist scanning either.10:06
Fazer_pestilence: What card do you have?10:06
johns^TTT_Travis: yep id does10:06
johns^it10:06
pestilenceFazer_: so you might not be totally out of luck.  did you try just setting the AP ESSID?10:06
johns^at least, warty does10:06
Fazer_pestilence: What do you mean AP ESSID?10:07
pestilenceFazer_: mine is a mini-pci card, installed by gateway10:07
Fazer_Hmm10:07
dcravenFazer_, the Broadcom will scan.10:07
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Fazer_dcraven: how do I set that?10:07
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Fazer_but shouldn't it just pick up any wifi networks out there?10:08
pestilenceFazer_: you just say "iwconfig wlan0 essid MYESSID" where MYESSID is your essid.10:08
dcravenFazer_, iwlist wlan0 scan10:08
Fazer_hmmm10:08
Fazer_let me install it again.10:08
dcravenFazer_, are you using the ndiswrapper that came with the kernel? I had to compile version 1.1 before it would work.10:08
Fazer_dcraven: No, remember that .deb you found for me?10:08
Fazer_I am using that one.10:09
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dcravenFazer_, I found you a deb? From where?10:09
Fazer_oh wait, that was for pestilence not you, sorry10:09
guru3lol10:09
dcravenheh10:09
pestilenceFazer_: it was me that found the deb.  and it's in hoary, assuming you are using a hoary livecd10:09
Fazer_pestilence: correct, I am.10:09
pestilenceFazer_: i found it on an official repository10:09
Fazer_but, just to be sure, how shall I check the version?  ndiswrapper -v ?10:09
dcravenFazer_, what kernel are you using?10:09
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Fazer_Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-38610:10
djm62When I start my laptop up offline, it takes a while to check for the non-existent network connection...is there a recommended way to stop this?10:10
pestilenceFazer_: so, that version of ndiswrapper works with that kernel.10:10
pestilenceFazer_: i have a laptop that uses it right now.10:10
Fazer_pestilence: Alright, so, let me install it again.10:10
dcravenhmmm.. Mine's compiled for 686...10:10
dcravenpestilence, is yours a Broadcom?10:11
pestilencedcraven: he's using the ubuntu package, compiled for that kernel10:11
ritalinhello10:11
pestilencedcraven: no.10:11
ritalinIm in need of some assistance10:11
ritalinI was using synaptic and it crashed10:11
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ritalinnow whenever i try to install something i get this10:11
dcravenpestilence, okay. I'm just saying that the Ubuntu package didn't work for my Broadcom. If it'll work for him, then great.10:11
pestilencedcraven: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/misc/ndiswrapper-utils10:11
falkem_v4do you know a good tool for making parts in HD? is parted the right answer?10:11
ritalinMedia change: please insert the disc labeled10:11
ritalin 'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release powerpc (20050407)'10:11
ritalinin the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter10:11
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dcravenpestilence, yeah. But it no workie for me.10:12
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ritalinyou guys ever seen this?10:12
pestilencedcraven: ah.10:12
djm62falkem_v4: parted is good, or a graphical shell for parted10:12
Fazer_bah, strange, i see the .inf file right there but it says its not found.10:12
ritalinsudo apt-get update works but whenever I try to install something with either synaptic or apt-get i get that error10:12
pestilenceFazer_: you have a .sys file too?10:13
dcravenritalin, is the CDROM source in your sources.list?10:13
djm62falkem_v4: bear in mind resizing mounted disks NOT recommended...you can boot from a parted floppy (or livecd with parted)10:13
Fazer_pestilence: yes10:13
rijihow kan i give me all the dir.rights with sudo chmod? i can change the rights but i can't give me acces to them :S10:13
Fazer_oh wait, i was using the wrong command, heh.10:13
Fazer_okay, so its installed.10:13
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falkem_v4where do I get such a graphical shell...thx for answering...I'm just a noob,yo know10:13
Fazer_It forces radio sates10:13
falkem_v4of course....10:13
pestilenceFazer_: do you know the essid for your wireless network?10:13
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Fazer_pestilence: by that yu mean, the name?10:14
djm62falkem_v4: I think qparted is still current10:14
pestilenceFazer_: yes.  default is sometimes "linksys" :)10:14
stasthank you e-type10:14
Fazer_ah, mine is "Go Away"10:14
dcravenriji, directories need to be executable (x) for you to enter them. Is that what you mean?10:14
ritalindcraven, you the man :)10:14
stasyou have solved my questions perfectly!10:14
stas:)10:14
stasI have more though ;p10:14
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pestilenceFazer_: i didn't know you could have spaces.10:14
dcravenritalin, glad it worked.10:14
rijino i can enter them, but i can't add files to them och change them :S10:15
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Fazer_pestilence: Yeah, strange, XP shows it as "Go Away"10:15
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Fazer_withot the quotes ofcourse.10:15
dcravenriji, och?10:15
ritalinI guess i should stay clear of synaptic10:15
Fazer_alright, so, how shall i scan?10:15
rijiopps10:15
rijioch = and10:15
Burgundaviaritalin, why do you say that10:15
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pestilenceFazer_: anyways.  you should try 'iwconfig wlan0 essid "Go Away" key off' assuming you are not using WEP10:16
ritalinIt crashed on me and updated my sources.list10:16
dcravenritalin, I've never seen it crash. Must be a fluke. It would be helpful if you could reproduce it.10:16
rijiswedish :$10:16
mainerriji: edit permissions as rot and save10:16
ritalinwell im on ppc10:16
pestilenceFazer_: and then iwconfig to see if it worked10:16
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ritalinand was running kde at the time10:16
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ritalinmaybe that had something to do with it10:16
maineror i should sau sudo su10:16
dcravenOh.10:16
ritalinkubuntu10:16
Fazer_pestilence: Hmm, I am using WEP, so how shall I input it?10:16
rijiwell i can only do that with sudo chmod... but i can't/don't know how to give my account the rights10:17
dcravenritalin, there is a kynaptic no?10:17
pestilenceFazer_: iwconfig wlan0 essid "Go Away" key open "YOURKEYGOESHERE"10:17
delireFazer_: jesus you didn't say you were using WEP ;)10:17
ritalindcraven, yes but it isnt as featureful10:17
PeteHelloMy sound doesnt work.  Can anyone start me off on some trouble shooting?10:17
delirehehe10:17
Fazer_delire: Lol, sorry!  I thought that owuld be default knowledge that you would be using WEP!10:17
dcravenriji, you can make your user the owner of the file/dir if you do "chown username:username foo".10:17
delireFazer_: well i don't on my AP's WEP is fairly easy to crack. i use MAC addresses for security ;)10:18
pestilenceFazer_: also, scanning will not work if your AP doesn't broadcast it's essid10:18
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rijithat was what i was looking for10:18
burgermannlo :)10:18
rijithx10:18
dcravenriji, no problem.10:18
LinuxJonesPeteHello, do you have a music file that you can try to play in rhythmbox, preferable a .ogg music file ?10:18
delireFazer_: anyway, you weren't even seeing the AP so i guess it's a problem with ndiswrapper..10:18
Fazer_delire: Aah< isee.10:18
burgermannI need to copy my KDE session/profile onto another machine, any tricks as to how I do that?10:18
Fazer_pestilence: Yeah, so, I did that, and i did iwconfig10:19
Fazer_still nothingl.10:19
Fazer_*nothing10:19
dcravenFazer_, if you get that stock module to work, please let me know.10:19
Fazer_dcraven: Stock module?10:19
pestilenceFazer_: what do you mean by nothing10:19
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Fazer_pestilence: As in no change in iwconfig10:19
dcravenFazer_, the stock ndiswrapper module.10:19
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Fazer_dcraven: Ah okay.10:19
dcravenFazer_, the one you're workin' on right now with pestilence .10:19
CredHello. Could someone here try to help me out with Hauppauge WinTV DVB-T, I don't seem to get it to work.10:19
Fazer_dcraven: Yeah, gotcha.10:20
Fazer_Btw, the channel that I am broadcasting it on is 610:20
dcravenFazer_, is it a BCM4306 chipset?10:20
pestilenceFazer_: it shows 44:44:44:44:44... as the AP?10:20
Fazer_pestilence: No, its a bunch of OOs10:20
Fazer_00:00:00:00:00:0010:20
PeteHelloLinuxJones, I have mp3's that I can get off my NTFS partition, and some MPC's.  No .ogg files10:20
Fazer_dcraven: NOt sure, how shall I check?10:20
dcravenFazer_, lspci10:20
Fazer_dcraven: yeah that just occured to me.10:20
pestilenceFazer_: when you entered the key, did you enter a passphrase, or the hexidecimal key?10:21
LinuxJonesPeteHello, ok you will have to search the website for "restricted formats" it will tell you how to get mp3 playback capabilities.10:21
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Fazer_pestilence: passprhase, shit, so I should prefix it with s: ?10:21
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PeteHelloI have xmms installed, does it come with mp3 playback?10:21
pestilenceFazer_: yep.10:21
dcravenI'd suggest disabling WEP until you get it connecting.10:21
dcravenBut that's just me :)10:22
Fazer_hmm, i did that whole iwconfig wlan0 esside "Go Away" key open "s:BALHBLAH"10:22
Xgatesthis seems odd on my box if I kill 'hotplug' then at bootup I get this message --> *ror* Temporay name resolution failure10:22
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mainerburgerman: hidden file in/home .kde copy it to wherever ,a floppy,cd-rw etc or just e-mail,or ftp to other machine10:22
Fazer_still, the access point is 00:00:00:00:00:0010:22
LinuxJonesPeteHello, no check here >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:22
burgermanndoes anyone know how to copy a user profile in KDE onto another pc?10:22
burgermannoh10:22
XgatesI mean what the heck does hotplug have to do with name resolution in Ubuntu10:22
XgatesLOL10:22
burgermannmainer, thx :)10:22
Fazer_dcraven: Heh, not sure...I think I might..10:22
mainern.p.10:23
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Fazer_dcraven: Btw, lspci shows "Network COntroller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown Device 4325"10:23
Fazer_pestilence: I didn't do the "sed" commands from that howto you sent me yesterday10:23
dcravenFazer_, that's not reassuring.10:23
Fazer_dcraven: What, the lspci or the sed command ?10:23
jgeorgesonanyone know to debug "Configuring Network Interfaces" taking over a minute when 'lo' is the only interface set to 'auto' in /etc/network/interfaces?10:24
dcravenFazer_, lspci... hehe10:24
Fazer_dcraven: aah10:24
Fazer_then I guess its the driver.10:24
dcravenFazer_, I'll leave you guys alone and stop interrupting now.10:24
Fazer_dcraven: Its alright, I don't mind =/10:24
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dcravenFazer_, pestilence might :)10:24
delirejgeorgeson: odd10:24
pestilenceFazer_: i don't know if the sed stuff was neccessary10:24
pestilencedcraven: no worries10:24
dcravenheh10:24
delirejgeorgeson: ifconfig gives you no other used interfaces?10:24
Marble2how do I get the XScreenSaver daemon to stay running, once I start it, lock my screen, and unlock it, it stops running10:25
Marble2any ideas?10:25
Fazer_pestilence: well, i did try it earlier on, still no luck though10:25
dcravenjgeorgeson, I get the same.. Takes forever to boot. Low priority though I suppose here.10:25
burgermannwould anyone know a KDE application that synchronizes with sony ericsson phones?10:26
kentMarble2, have you filed a bug about it in bugzilla.ubuntu.org?10:26
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Fazer_hmmm...10:26
deliredcraven: so does a '/etc/init.d/networking restart' also take a long time on 'lo'?10:26
Fazer_i think I will tryt his:10:26
Fazer_http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/bcmwl5.inf10:26
Marble2kent: no10:26
Fazer_instead of the .inf i already have10:26
dcravenburgermann, I don't know, but you may have better luck asking that in #kubuntu.10:27
astro76burgermann: I have no idea what it supports, but there's http://kandy.kde.org/10:27
delireburgermann: http://google.com/linux10:27
thullydoes anyone know how I would sort a directory full of MP3s into directories based on their tags?  iTunes does this on Windows, but rhythmbox doesn't on Linux.10:27
dcravendelire, I dunno. I've never done that.10:27
pestilenceFazer_: worth a shot, what's it gonna hurt :)10:27
delirethully: gtkpod.sf.net10:27
pestilenceFazer_: i still think the lights should come on when you modprobe ndiswrapper10:27
Fazer_hehe yeah10:27
Fazer_pestilence: That's what i was thinking too!10:28
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Fazer_I was like "Comon, blink already!"10:28
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thullyI use gtkpod - but that's just to transfer mp3s to an iPod - I want to sort them into directories so it's easier to just add 1 album, for instance, to my sync list10:28
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delirethully: 'apt-cache search id3 tag' and se what you come up with. an 'apt-cache show <name>' will give you a summary10:29
dcravendelire, I just did /etc/init.d/networking restart now and it only took ~5 seconds.10:29
kentMarble2, filing a bug about it is a good way to make sure you will get some response.  Sometimes the people on irc cant help :(10:29
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Fazer_http://nicolas.bonifas.free.fr/inspiron/bcmwl5.inf10:29
ubuntuthanks10:29
Marble2k10:29
deliredcraven: well that makes little sense!10:29
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jgeorgesondelire, I have eth0 (onboard ethernet) and eth1 (pcmcia wifi), but neither are set to auto as I rarely have an ethernet cable plugged in and the wifi isn't loaded until pcmcia comes online later10:30
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xukuntried everything but I my screen is broken after installing the nvidia driver. please this photo,s to see what I mean: http://stuwww.uvt.nl/~ahassan/photo/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=010:31
dcravendelire, actually it might... I haven't rebooted since I commented out "auto eth0" in /etc/networking/interfaces... haha. I just took a quick stab at a solution this morning but never tested it.10:31
pestilenceFazer_: you might also try changing "open" to "restricted"10:31
pestilenceFazer_: in the iwconfig command10:31
delirejgeorgeson: what happens if you 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'?10:32
Fazer_oh, so its just a parameter?10:32
jgeorgesondelire, the only thing i can think of is the hotplug stuff in /etc/network/interfaces, which has a 'map eth0' line I think. not at my ubuntu machine right now10:32
delirejgeorgeson: does it sit on 'lo' for 5 minutes?10:32
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delirejgeorgeson: right.. could be it yes.10:32
pestilenceFazer_: also, this leads me to believe that you will be successful if you stick to it long enough10:32
Arcane... dhcp3 keeps telling me my subnet mask or whatever isn't correst.10:32
pestilenceFazer_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=210010:32
ArcaneCorrect.10:32
pestilenceFazer_: look at the output from lspci at the bottom...matches yours10:32
jgeorgesondelire, it doesn't mention specific interfaces. the line is just "Configuring Network Interfaces"10:32
Fazer_hmmm10:32
LinuxJonesPeteHello, I am going afk for about an hour10:32
djm62jgeorg: I have the same thing10:33
djm62not the end of the world, but I wouldn't mind a solution10:33
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Fazer_pestilence: yes yes it does!10:33
jgeorgesondelire,  what docs would I check to see what the hotplug stuff is actually doing?10:33
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PeteHelloLinuxJones, ok, thanks.  I'm reading up on that website.10:34
pestilenceFazer_: and if you search for "MicroSuck" on this page: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/List10:34
pestilenceFazer_: you will see that somebody has it working :)10:34
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Fazer_haha10:34
delirejgeorgeson: i would look in the hotplug service script first /etc/init.d/hotplug10:34
Fazer_yeah, i saw that a while ago!10:34
djm62jgeorgeson: if you mostly always use wifi, you could shift the order in /etc/rc2.d/ so that pcmcia comes up first10:34
pestilenceFazer_: so, try this one:  http://ankhcraft.com/drivers/mn720-ankh.zip10:34
delirejgeorgeson: then examine any one of the files listed in the hotplug manpage.10:34
sherdogHi all10:35
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sherdogIs Ubunto install more or less the same as debian?10:35
jgeorgesondjm62, yeah, but it shouldn't be configuring interfaces that aren't marked auto, and it seems like it is10:35
pestilencesherdog: more or less.  it generally asks far less questions10:35
Fazer_pestilence: haha yeah,t hats the first thing I tried10:36
^thehatsrule^bah10:36
Fazer_that was the original one I was using.10:36
sherdogpestilence Thx.. Looking forward to it10:36
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queuetueHow would you guys do fax-merges, if you had to?10:36
sherdogHave anyone tried install in VMware yet?10:36
Fazer_pestilence: i think itm ight be because of the boot parameters I have to the LiveCD?10:36
pestilenceFazer_: what boot parameters are you passing?10:36
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Fazer_pestilence: Hmm, I forgot, do you know how I can check?10:36
Legironscan anyone tell me the default user password for kubuntu liveCD?10:37
dcravensherdog, if you just want to play, maybe check out the LiveCD?10:37
Fazer_I think there's a command for it.10:37
RiddellLegirons: there isn't one10:37
Legironsblank?10:37
pestilenceFazer_: don't know.10:37
Fazer_hmm, hold, i wrote it down on my PDA10:37
dcravenFazer_, cat /proc/cmdline10:37
Fazer_aah there we go10:37
Fazer_thanks dcraven10:37
sherdogdcraven And keep windoze? Hehe, no way!10:37
dcravenSure.10:37
delirejgeorgeson: sadly hotplug itself isn't very rich in output. you may be best off looking at dmesg, ot even 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' when you restart the network services10:38
ArcaneWhat's an NTP server. :\10:38
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dcravensherdog, wouldn't you be keeping Windows if you used VMWare?10:38
sherdogHehe, Its the install I need to test first.. :)10:38
dcravensherdog, I see.10:38
Fazer_pestilence: I gave it "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi"10:38
omegI'm using warty. It seems that I can't change anything in the screen options apart from refresh rate and resolution. Is this fixed in the latest release?10:39
dcravenArcane, it's a server that disperses the time and data.10:39
Fazer_pestilence: Hmm...you wouldn't believe this.10:39
Fazer_I removed the wifi card from the slot, put it on the slot above it10:39
Fazer_and type in lspci10:39
Fazer_it gives some other crap shit10:39
Fazer_like the model number!10:39
pestilenceFazer_: there's an easy way to tell.  reboot without those parameters :)10:39
delirehehe weird10:40
Fazer_pestilence: If i do, then i can't use ethernet or usb!10:40
djm62jgeorgeson: if the lo section right?10:40
delireFazer_: try looking for an AP with the card in the top slot10:40
ArcaneAh. I gotta reboot AGAIN.10:40
Fazer_delire: Damn, i do iwconfig and I don't see wlan0 anywhere.10:40
dcravenArcane, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol10:40
jgeorgesondjm62, ?10:40
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delireFazer_: ifup wlan010:41
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Fazer_the hel..10:41
Fazer_"No such device"10:41
dcravenThese ex-Windows people.. Always rebootin'.10:41
Bazziheh10:41
delireFazer_: tail -f /var/log/syslog10:42
pestilenceFazer_: lsmod |grep ndiswrapper10:42
djm62jgeorgeson: I'm baffled, assuming my script is identical to yours10:42
pestilenceFazer_: perhaps rmmod ndiswrapper and then modprobe ndiswrapper10:42
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omegIt seems that I can't change anything in the screen options apart from refresh rate and resolution in Warty. Is this fixed in the latest release?10:42
delireFazer_L plug and unplug... hey i'll leave you too it pestilence/Fazer (i don't have the same card..)10:42
punehey can someone help me I'm trying to configure my wireless card10:42
onnoHow do you send something to device NULL or the black hole10:42
dcravenomeg, what else is there?10:43
delirecat file /dev/null10:43
Fazer_bahthe hell...10:43
onnowhen you type command line and want the output in device null10:43
delirecat file > /dev/null10:43
Fazer_delire: I plug it back in to the first slot, it still says no such device.10:43
delirei meant to say... ;)10:43
onnook10:43
onnoso anycommand > /dev/null10:43
jgeorgesondjm62, i just didn't understand you question about lo. I have 'auto lo' in my /etc/network/interfaces but that's the loopback so it shouldn't take any time to configure10:43
djm62onno: yeah10:43
deliresure10:43
onnook thanxs poeple10:43
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Fazer_pestilence: when I put it on the other slot, it says that the driver is present but the hardware isn't there.10:43
Fazer_so shall I re-install the drivers?10:43
omeg[22:43]  <dcraven> omeg, what else is there? <-- in the version I'm using, apparently Warty (4, I believe), I can only set pre-defined resolutions + refresh rate. And that's it.10:43
delireFazer_: i really think your ndiswrapper is totally screwy. what if you load|unload the wrapper??10:44
pestilenceFazer_: did you try rmmod ndisrapper and then modprobe ndiswrapper?10:44
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pestilencewhat he said.10:44
djm62jgeorgeson: and if that's the only auto option, the only reason for delay would be 'wrong lo config' (which I know is crazy)10:44
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omegI mean, Ubuntu defaults to 24-bit apparently, and I can't even set it to 32-bit in Gnome10:44
Fazer_pestilence: wait, when I did lsmod , it says ndiswrapper         10904   010:45
Fazer_* 10904410:45
Fazer_but yeah, let me try that10:45
delireomeg: there is no '32 bit'. it's a marketing fake10:45
restrexis 24 the same as 32 bit? I think it's10:45
jgeorgesondjm62, ah. i suppose you're right, but lo should have a correct configuration out of the box10:45
dcravenfakers.10:45
webtoeomeg: 24bit is 32bit, the extra bits aren't meaning anything10:45
delirerestrex: yes..10:45
djm62jgeorgeson: what do you have in pcmcia and what's pci?10:45
delirethe extra 8 bits are marketing fuzz10:45
Fazer_pestilence: I tried that, still nothing.10:46
restrexjeje10:46
Fazer_should re-install the drivers?10:46
omegBut still. What if I need to set it to 8-bit or 16-bit?10:46
jgeorgesonmy wifi card is pcmcia (i have a linksys wpc11v3 and a cisco aironet 340). the ethernet is onboard rather than mini-pci10:46
omegI'd have to edit the config.10:46
jgeorgesonneither are marked auto10:46
pestilenceFazer_: bummer.  i gotta work now, you'll figure it out eventually :)10:46
punehey I'm trying to configure my wireless card10:46
omegMy point is that the resolution options panel in Warty is limited to just pre-defined resolutions and refresh rate.10:47
webtoeFazer_: do you see your card listed at all with /sbin/lspci -v10:47
delireomeg: well do it. 24bit is as good as it gets. a gazillion colours ;)10:47
Fazer_pestilence:Ah, thanks a lot for your help man.10:47
Fazer_webtoe: Hmm, let me try that out10:47
dcravenomeg, to answer your question, it has not changed in Hoary.10:47
punehowever, it won't configure right10:47
omegHmm.10:47
omegI see.10:47
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restrexomeg you can configure with mayors resolutions by configuring your x server: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8610:47
GhostFreemanguys10:47
Fazer_webtoe: yes, I do, at the bottom.10:47
omegI personally find that a little lacking. But I guess developers have other priorities.10:47
Fazer_i also see this beneeath it10:47
Fazer_webtoe: "!!! Unknown header type 7f"10:48
GhostFreemanUnder GPL, can I distribute a program's documentation under another license, such as Creative Commons?10:48
delireomeg: if you so as restrex wisely suggests, make sure you back up your original config10:48
webtoeok, and you have the windows 2000 driver for your card? and the ndiswrapper ?10:48
dcravenomeg, patches welcome =P10:48
SeamusLPpune:  Whats wrong with it?10:48
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Fazer_webtoe: yeap.10:48
dcravenomeg, don't you hate it when people say that? ahah10:48
webtoeand do you have the kernel headers installed?10:48
omeg=)10:48
dcravenTrue though.10:48
puneSeamusLP, well, it seems to have the driver installed but the lights aren't turning on10:48
Fazer_webtoe: how do I check that? i am on the livecd just so you know.10:49
dcravenFazer_ almost makes me want to get back to finishing my ndiswrapper howto...10:49
delirepune: what card?10:49
Fazer_dcraven: Hehe, that might be helpful to thers.10:49
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webtoeFazer_:  are you using ndiswrapper from the livecd? or is it downloaded of the ndis wrapper website?10:49
jinx``what to do when a umount /cdrom fails ?10:49
Fazer_webtoe: No, I installed it from the deb.10:49
delirejinx`` umount -l10:49
puneSeamusLP,  dell truemobile 131010:49
Fazer_pesti_away said himself that it is fine.10:50
delirepune meet Fazer_10:50
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djm62jinx``: or lsof | grep cdrom10:50
onnothxs love you guys10:50
mcphailjinx``: eject10:50
Fazer_hehe10:50
djm62jinx``: to see what processes are accessing it, and kill them10:50
delirejinx``: make sure you're not 'in' the /cdrom directory at the time.. ;)10:50
punedelire, what's Fazer10:50
Fazer_HI10:50
omegAlso, Warty didn't support my TFT's native resolution when I installed it. 1920x1200.10:50
dcravenjintxo, or try "umount /media/cdrom" since that is where it likely is.10:50
delirepune a person with the same problem as you i suspect.10:50
omegI edited the config file and added it, but it still didn't show up even after a cold reboot.10:51
mcphailjinx``: honestly - just type eject10:51
punedelire, lol, oh, sorry10:51
delirenp ;)10:51
omegIs that fixed in the latest release?10:51
Fazer_pune: what card you using?10:51
puneFazer_, a Dell truemobile 131010:51
dcravenomeg, added what?10:51
webtoeFazer_: let me have a quick look at the docs and remind myself how to use ndiswrapper10:51
webtoeits been awhile10:51
Fazer_webtoe: Sure.10:51
omegdcraven: support for 1920x1200.10:51
Fazer_pune: Hmm, what driver are you using?10:51
puneFazer_, all drivers seem to be installed correctly but the lights won't turn on10:51
raydogg_omeg, i had that issue too10:51
dcravenOh my.10:51
Fazer_bcmwl5.inf ?10:51
djm62jgeorgeson: I get slightly annoyed by the same kind of thing...but not yet annoyed enough to solve it, because it's only occasional (sorry)10:51
omegIt wasn't an option when installing--but even after editing the config file, it just didn't show up.10:52
puneFazer_, bcmlw5a.inf10:52
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omegThis is Warty I'm talking about.10:52
puneFazer_, I think10:52
Fazer_pune: that is what I am using as well.10:52
Fazer_pune: type this: sudo ndiswrapper -l10:52
Fazer_that will list the installed drivers that you havel10:52
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SeamusLPpune, fazer:  You guys are using dell laptops I take it?10:52
jgeorgesondjm62, well, i figure since i won't get acpi to work i may as well get this thing taken care of10:52
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Fazer_SeamusLP: No, I am using a Thinkpad 600e With a wlan card.10:52
mjromeg, I'm still skeptical that it's a vesa mode10:52
delirejgeorgeson: what machine are you using?10:52
puneFazer_, ok, yeah and it says it's installed as well as hardware present10:53
omegHmm.10:53
omegvesa is my driver10:53
puneSeamusLP, yeah10:53
omegI used ati before10:53
dcravenomeg, are the VertRefresh and HorizSync settings acurate in your config for your monitor?10:53
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Fazer_pune: Hmm...what do you get when you type in lspci10:53
webtoeFazer_: have you installed the windows drivers with ndiswrapper -i /path/to/drivers10:53
omegBut it didn't work10:53
Fazer_webtoe: Yeap.10:53
omegI had to edit the config just to change it to vesa10:53
ubuntugeekubuntuforums will be right back.. switching servers incase anyone is wondering..10:53
webtoek10:53
SeamusLPpune:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell   see if there's any info on your model10:53
jgeorgesona dell inspiron 2600 w\ i830m graphics chip10:53
alexwillmerevening all, this should be a simple query. I wish to grep for lines matching regexp1 or regexp2 but I'm getting the wrong syntax. What is the correct form of this command:10:53
omeg[22:53]  <dcraven> omeg, are the VertRefresh and HorizSync settings acurate in your config for your monitor? <-- How do you mean?10:53
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omegLike, hardware?10:53
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puneSeamusLP, 0000:02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)10:53
webtoeFazer_: and it says that the driver is loaded properly etc when you use ndiswrapper -l?10:54
alexwillmercat /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/.config | grep -e '(CONFIG_NET)|(CONFIG_CRYPTO)'10:54
jinx``no process is accessing the cdrom10:54
jinx``but i cannot open it :(10:54
mcphailpune: I've had the same problem. Driver and hardware installed but no power to LEDs. Never found a way round it...10:54
mcphailjinx``: type eject10:54
jgeorgesonalexwillmer, grep -e regexp1 -e regexp210:54
puneSeamusLP, that's what I get, I need some drivers specific to my laptop too?10:54
delirejgeorgeson: and acpi is not functioning eg battery or temp in /proc/acpi/.. are giving poor, or no results?10:54
dcravenomeg, in you /etc/X11/XF86Config file, there should be lines for VertRefresh and HorizSync. Do the values in there agree with your monitor specs?10:54
ubuntuhey,i`ve just installed ubuntu on my laptop but i cant make my wireless work;what sould i put to the WEP key?10:54
snedexlo10:54
Fazer_webtoe: Yeah.10:54
jinx``doesn't work10:54
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omegI have a Dell Inspiron 9100 which natively supports 1920x1200--it's on a ATi Mobility Radeon 9800. So I figured the ati driver would be the way to go, but it just didn't work. I manually switched to vesa then.10:54
Fazer_webtoe  the driver and the hardware are both present10:54
punemcphail, really? well funny thing is I've gotten this card to work on warty10:54
Fazer_pune: haha, really?10:54
webtoeFazer_: hmmmmmm10:54
omeg[22:54]  <dcraven> omeg, in you /etc/X11/XF86Config file, there should be lines for VertRefresh and HorizSync. Do the values in there agree with your monitor specs? <-- I should look that up.10:54
Fazer_warty? Warty doesnt' even boot up on my thinkpad.10:54
omegBut shouldn't the option for the resolution show up anyway, especially since I manually added them to that same config file10:55
omeg?10:55
punemcphail, I started from scratch with Hoary, which was a mistake, I wanted to see if I could do it on my own10:55
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jgeorgesondelire, suspend modes. haven't messed with s3d yet, video doesn't come back on resume from s2m (have tried vbetool post and videopost)10:55
mcphailpune: I'm still using warty. Never worked for me with ndiswrapper10:55
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punemcphail, it still doesn't work for you?10:55
AgapeUoo pea ubuntu XD10:55
puneFazer_, yeah10:55
mcphailnope10:55
mjromeg, I'd recommend first upgrading to hoary and seeing if the ati driver works there10:55
alexwillmerjgeorgeson, thankyou, I read the man page as that only matching lines where both regexps were found.10:55
Fulghey,i`ve just installed ubuntu on my laptop but i cant make my wireless work;what sould i put to the WEP key?10:55
dcravenomeg, not if Xfree want's to spare your hardware from a small fire.10:55
omegOkay. I'll try that.10:55
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djm62What is a good wireless config tool for gnome?10:56
Fazer_pune: what do you get when you type in "iwconfig" ?10:56
jgeorgesonalexwillmer, pretty sure it does an OR on them10:56
Agapeaarrg depre tos ingleses ... i'm really poor10:56
omegmjr: can I upgrade to Hoary in Warty itself?10:56
omegOr do I have to redownload + reinstall?10:56
delirejgeorgeson: it can become particularly boring sadly. these proprietary acpi bioses have to be practically reverse engineered before they can be understood. i would look at the debian-laptop-list as nearly every answer can be found there.10:56
snedexi wonder if someone could throw some ideas at me, im having trouble installing ubuntu, i get the message <0> kernel panic, unable to sync: attempted to kill init, any ideas ?10:56
alexwillmerjgeorgeson, it does, I was just commenting on my dumbness :)10:56
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dcravendjm62, network-admin10:56
delirejgeorgeson: the list is fairly rigorous in the solving of such problems.10:56
Fulgulescuhey,i`ve just installed ubuntu on my laptop but i cant make my wireless work;what sould i put to the WEP key?10:57
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jgeorgesondjm62, NetworkMonitor can be pretty nice if your card's driver can scan. but i find dns is slow using it10:57
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mjromeg, I gave you the url to upgrade instructions earlier10:57
puneFazer_, IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:off/any10:57
pune          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:0010:57
pune          Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:25 dBm10:57
pune          RTS thr:2347 B   Fragment thr:2346 B10:57
pune          Encryption key:off10:57
pune          Power Management:off10:57
pune          Link Quality:100/100  Signal level:-10 dBm  Noise level:-256 dBm10:57
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pune          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:010:57
pune          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:010:57
SeamusLPpune: jesus dude10:57
mjromeg, to repeat, see the relevant links at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryHedgehog10:57
Fazer_pune: ooh, no spamming =(10:57
SeamusLPpune: #flood10:57
delirealexwillmer: i think that's a fairly natural way to wite it though..10:57
omegThanks again.10:57
omegStrange, I must have missed that.10:57
jgeorgesondelire, my experience has been nobody on acpi-devel ever respond's to any question no matter how i phrase it. and i've been trying with multiple versions of multiple distro's for a year or so10:57
delirealexwillmer: less efficient albeit ;)10:57
Fazer_pune: haha yeah, thats pretty much the same case here!10:57
djm62cheers....I'm happy enough with iwconfig, but it's the only time I still need to use the console...aesthetically displeasing10:58
puneFazer_, ok, is this a good thing or a bad thing?10:58
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snedexexit10:58
alexwillmerdelire, what, my way? it made sense as i interpreted 'man grep' but no joy, jgeorgeson's worked fine10:58
mcphailpune: what did you do to get it working in warty?10:58
Fazer_pune: well, the good thing is we are/were on the same boat =(10:58
delirejgeorgeson: hmm. they are busy and stressed. one by one the laptop vendors are complying, but many still need severe groundwork in this area. i would look in the list i mentioned above.10:59
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Fazer_and the bad thing is, we are pretty much stuck so far since we are both on different types of machines.10:59
Fulgulescuhey,i`ve just installed ubuntu on my laptop but i cant make my wireless work;what sould i put to the WEP key?10:59
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thanatosyshello everyone10:59
delirealexwillmer: yes, but there's nothing wrong with a pipe. you just used grep badly ;)10:59
djm62Fulgulescu: you sound familiar10:59
punemcphail, well, see I had a linux guru do it for me and I didn't watch him exactly so I don't remember everything10:59
Fulgulescumaybe :D10:59
Fulgulescubut can u help?10:59
punemcphail, however, i'm following the instructions on the ndiswrapper page10:59
mcphailpune: aah...10:59
thanatosyshave you tried man ndiswrapper?>11:00
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Oppossumhi all11:00
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mcphailpune: at least it fills me with hope that wirless is possible11:00
thanatosyshello11:00
jgeorgesondelire, heh. guess i didn't read your whole comment the first time. will check out that list (i have actually already rewritten the DSDT, maybe I did a crap job of it though)11:00
djm62Fulgulescu: menu System->Administration->Networking11:00
Fulgulescuyes11:00
punemcphail, lol11:00
Oppossumcan someone tell me what's happenned with totem and its audio codecs in hoary???11:00
Oppossumcan someone tell me what's happenning with totem and its audio codecs in hoary???11:00
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thanatosysdoes anyone know if a real book like print and paper is being planned for ubuntu?11:01
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Fulgulescui made that11:01
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vessuvius81What's the deal with Latex2e on ubuntu? I'm shocked its not standard, and I don't even see it in the apt repos11:01
jgeorgesonOppossum, which codecs?11:01
webtoeOppossum: what's wrong with them>11:01
webtoe?11:01
punkrockguy318I have a large collection of jpegs that are very large in file size.  I would to compress these to a reasonable size.  How can I do this quickly, on all my pictures?11:01
punemcphail, what really would have helped is if he showed me how, he just kind of did it11:01
Fulgulescuthe essid is mitzawlan11:01
djm62vessuvius81: you are searching for tetex?11:01
vessuvius81latex11:01
Fulgulescubut whats the wep eky11:01
mjrvessuvius81, tetex-bin11:01
Fulgulescuwep key?11:01
mcphailpune: you give a man a fish... etc etc11:01
thanatosystar -cvf youpics.tar yourfilenamerhere.11:02
thanatosysthat will create a tar archive11:02
jgeorgesonFulgulescu, the tool that djm62 mentioned lets you configure the WEP key (System->Administration->Network)11:02
punemcphail, I think he might have compiled his own driver maybe11:02
djm62Fulgulescu: well, it depends on your network....if you could ask for it on irc from strangers, it wouldn't be very secure11:02
webtoepunkrockguy318: are you wanting to create new jpegs which each take up less size?11:02
^thehatsrule^why tar when you can gz!11:02
vessuvius81so its called tetex on ubuntu then?11:02
punemcphail, oh well, i'll be back I'm gonna go eat11:02
djm62vessuvius81: on debian and friends11:02
thanatosyswell i tar then gunzip but w/e11:02
jgeorgesonFulgulescu, you could also use 'iwconfig <interface> key <key>' from a terminal11:02
punkrockguy318webtoe, yes11:02
vessuvius81ah ok11:02
thanatosysis there a command that simplifies it11:02
vessuvius81thanks11:02
Agrajag^thehatsrule^: because gzip doesn't support more than one file in an archive11:02
webtoeconvert is your friend11:02
vessuvius81no wonder I couldn't find it11:03
fabioarhi everybody.... anybody knows where can i get info to make my palm m125 to work?11:03
Fulgulescucheck this11:03
djm62vessuvius81: you may not need a wep key at all11:03
jinx``how to play divx x with totem video player?11:03
thanatosysfabior try lspci11:03
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Fulgulescuthis is the server i want to connect to11:03
thanatosyssee if it is a listed device11:03
jinx``it just works with VLC11:03
Agrajagthanatosys: tar cvzf11:03
thanatosysthanks11:03
^thehatsrule^Agrajag: i mean tar.gz ^^11:03
punkrockguy318webtoe, convert?11:03
Fulgulescuwlan0     IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"mitzawlan"  Nickname:"okuwlan"11:03
Fulgulescu          Mode:Ad-Hoc  Frequency:2.457GHz  Cell: 02:00:DD:A3:1B:0011:03
Fulgulescu          Bit Rate:11Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm11:03
thanatosyswait that should be lsusb11:03
jinx``in totem i just hear the sound11:03
thanatosyshas anyone had any luck with gdesklets11:04
FulgulescuEncryption key:off11:04
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thanatosysit seems to incessantly crash on my system11:04
thanatosysit wont even start a desklet now11:04
thanatosys:(11:04
Echylohi11:04
webtoepunkrockguy318: its a program which is part of the ImageMajick suite. Its a command line tool which can be scripted to alter pictures11:04
Echylohow smart was it11:04
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fabioarthank thanatosys...11:04
Echyloto update to breezy?11:04
djm62jinx``: marillat repository will get you mplayer (google for it), and that will play mostly anything11:04
WeirdAlHello. This is nothing to do with Ubuntu but you guys know everything. Does anyone know where I can get MySQL help? An IRC chan or something.11:04
Echylono serious I updated to breezy now11:05
fabioaryes it is listed as a accepted device11:05
Echylowas it smart?11:05
Fulgulescuis there a tool to autodetect my settings?11:05
thanatosysok have you tried mounting it11:05
revelaterhey, how can i find out what my ip adress is on my network and the ip adress of my router/modem?11:05
jgeorgesonFulgulescu, do you not know the WEP key?11:05
thanatosyshmm11:05
djm62Fulgulescu: do you really want an ad-hoc connection?11:05
WeirdAlI couldn't get mplayer working :-s. I use xine now.11:05
thanatosysyour trying a palm11:05
thanatosyshave you tried that palm tool that is included in the system11:05
Fulgulescui`m new to this guys11:06
thanatosysits under system/preferences11:06
whiteknightEchylo, do you do mission critical stuff on ubuntu? if the answer is yes then it wasn't a good idea11:06
Fulgulescui dunno whats the wep key11:06
whiteknightEchylo, if not then i wouldn't worry11:06
Xappehave you guys tried to recompile totem-xine with the firefox plugin enabled?11:06
Fazer_yeap, so no more ubuntu11:06
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jgeorgesonFulgulescu, is it your access point you're trying to connect to?11:06
punkrockguy318webtoe, when it says quality value.. what is the range on that? do you know? 1 - 100?11:06
djm62Fulgulescu: are you connecting to a server? if so, you want to use managed mode11:06
Echylowell another question, why isn't beagle supported? I can't install it11:06
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webtoei believe they often give it as 1 - 10011:07
revelaterhey, how can i find out what my ip adress is on my network and the ip adress of my router/modem?11:07
thanatosysbeagle is new and unstable11:07
thanatosyslol11:07
djm62revelater: ifconfig11:07
Fulgulescui`m on the laptop and i use ubuntu;the server that i`m connecting to is a fc3 server11:07
revelaterthankyou11:07
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Echylobeagle is already on the new suse11:07
Echylowhy shouldn't ubuntu have it11:07
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Fulgulescuthat what i pasted is the fc3 wlan config11:07
thanatosyslook for the source and try compiling it?11:07
Echylothat's an option11:08
thanatosysalso i would like to say splashy is the shit11:08
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Echylosplashy?11:08
thanatosyseasiest splash program ever written11:08
webtoealso it needs inode support in the kernel11:08
webtoewhich is still experimental11:08
thanatosysits like bootsplash or usplash11:08
LightBeamhello11:08
jgeorgesonFulgulescu, you can use network-admin (System->Administration->Network) to set your wlan on your laptop to those same settings11:08
Echylooh and what has it to do with beagle,11:08
Echylo?11:08
thanatosysdoenst require a recompile or antyhing11:08
webtoeand is integral to the filesystem11:08
thanatosysit doesnt11:08
EchyloI know webtoe11:08
thanatosysits just awesome11:08
djm62Fulgulescu: the server would be better as Master mode, if you can do so11:08
LightBeamCan somebody help me to install java VM for firefox ? :-(11:08
Echylooh ok11:08
webtoeah11:08
webtoeok11:08
Echyloanyway11:08
Echylogtg11:08
Echylognight every111:08
Fulgulescuwhat do u mean11:08
Echyloubuntu! :p11:08
Fulgulescumaster mode11:08
webtoelol11:09
Fulgulescu?11:09
thanatosyshas anyone gotten monitor mode to work in hoary11:09
thanatosys?11:09
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LightBeamnobody ?11:09
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Fulgulescuthis is what i do on the fc3 server for wlan11:09
Fulgulescuiwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc channel 10 essid mitzawlan11:09
Fulgulescuifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.2 up11:09
webtoeLightBeam: what have you tried so far?11:09
hiteshhey people.. .new ubuntu user here on day 1.. i like it a lot so far...11:10
LightBeamI have /usr/java installed (j2re 1.5) and linked libjavaplugin_oji.so to firefox/plugins11:10
hiteshanyone get realplayer to work with ESD ?11:10
jgeorgesonFulgulescu, do that with a different ip on your ubuntu laptop11:10
LightBeamand I have "white applets"11:10
djm62Fulgulescu: A wifi card can be "Managed mode" (connected to a router) "ad-hoc mode" (connected to another ad-hoc card), or "Master mode" (allowing connections from Managed mode cards)11:10
punkrockguy318webtoe, thanks for your help, that's just what i needed... after an apt-get install imagemagick and a $ convert -quality 50 * * everything worked great11:10
webtoeno worries11:10
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LightBeamhelp me :-\11:11
webtoeLightBeam: in the address bar of firefox type about:plugins11:11
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webtoeand look for java11:12
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StyXmanwow, how many people11:12
LightBeamwebtoe: I do it... java plugins are loaded !11:12
webtoeis it there?11:12
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webtoek well try leaving it for a while11:12
LightBeambut doesn't work fine11:12
webtoethey could just be taking a long time to load?11:12
StyXmanI'm trying to compile xorg from sources11:12
StyXmanI get the sources via apt-get source xorg11:12
LightBeamlong time ? really long ?11:13
StyXmanbut a debian/ruler build-all fails11:13
webtoeLightBeam: try opening a console, then starting firefox from it, and see if any errors show up11:13
StyXmans/ruler/rules/11:13
webtoewhen you try to load java aps11:13
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LightBeamok webtoe11:13
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Bukkakej #wordpress11:14
LightBeamwebtoe : no errors11:14
Bukkakewhups.. heh11:14
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webtoehmm11:14
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jinx``what is marillat?11:14
jinx``djm6211:14
akkAnyone familiar with the installer on small laptops?11:14
akkWhen I get to the network config stage, am I better off ejecting the cd to put in the network card,11:15
djm62jinx``: it's a repository that you add to /etc/apt/sources.list11:15
ermojinx``, isn't that a repository with w32 xine codecs?11:15
jgeorgesonjinx``, a repository of multimedia packages of questionable legality due to software patents11:15
akkor will it let me configure a network without a card in place?11:15
roshambohi all11:15
djm62don't question the legality, question the legal system11:15
onnoany experienced person with AWSTATS11:15
roshambowhich startup script has the ntp update thingo in it?11:15
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djm62roshambo: /etc/init.d/ntpdate11:16
jgeorgesondjm62, heh. users aren't, to the best of my knowledge, under any risk, only ditributors, which is why it's in marillat instead of ubuntu11:16
roshambodjm62: if that isn't linked to in rc2.d, is there any reason why it would start anyway?11:17
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djm62roshambo: I don't _think_ so11:17
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djm62jgeorgeson: I find that oddly cold comfort...patents per se make much less sense now than when they were invented11:18
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Ubuntu_BeginnerHi11:18
roshambodjm62: cos its starting on mine :( inittab says runlevel is 2, so i am not sure why it would run11:18
_blackdogare apt sources available for breezybadger yet?11:19
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WeirdAl'lo11:19
WeirdAlFilesystem question11:19
WeirdAlI have a partition mounted to /wine11:19
jgeorgesondjm62, totally (make much less sense when read as parents rather than patents)11:19
Ubuntu_BeginnerI am trying to install ubuntu but the installation aborts at the install base part every time. Any body can help?11:19
smoucheI think the issue with ubuntu is that Canonical plans to make money with support services for this distro, and understandably, they need to avoid entangling potential customers in legal hassles.11:19
WeirdAlWhat do I put in fstab so that users can write to /wine?11:20
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webtoeWeirdAl: you need users in the options field11:20
AndyRUbuntu_Beginner, what hardware?11:20
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webtoeand there has to be rw there as well11:20
jgeorgesonWeirdAl, I think set the gid in the options to a common group, and set a umask that gives group write permission (or open it to the world)11:20
Ubuntu_BeginnerAmd Athelon 2100+11:20
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dimatrodhi, i came over to ask if there is any way to port 32 bit wine into 64 bit kubuntu??11:21
jgeorgesonwebtoe, doesn't 'users' just let users mount/umount it?11:21
AndyRide drives, ?11:21
webtoeah good point, yes it does11:21
Ubuntu_Beginnermaxtor 1 drive only11:21
webtoei'm being silly11:21
Fulgulescuhey i`m running live cd whats the pass to su to root ?11:21
WeirdAlI'll try webtoe's first 'cause it's easier, cheers.11:21
dimatrodsudo-s (fulgu)11:21
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dbrouwerany body know how to resolve this: cc1plus: Permission denied: opening dependency file accel.d make: *** [accel.o]  Error 1  ?11:21
dimatrodhi, i came over to ask if there is any way to port 32 bit wine into 64 bit kubuntu??11:22
jgeorgesonFulgulescu, you may have to give yourself a password with 'passwd' first, then run 'sudo -s'11:22
delirejgeorgeson: swpats don't pose users risk directly, so much as discouraging developers to develop, hence reducing the pool of software users have available.11:22
roshambook, last question... is there somewhere to download the .config file used to compile the kernels that ubuntu comes with?11:22
jeramydimatrod, anything is possible, but it would be a huge undertaking, because the Win32 binaries are 32 bit.  :)11:22
KeizerWhat can I use to burn an audio CD from MP3s?11:22
AndyRUbuntu_Beginner, what motherboard?11:22
delirejgeorgeson: regardless, they are an abomination of sense in any case.11:22
dimatrodjeramy: so it would take a long line of commands to port it?11:23
jgeorgesondelire, i agree. i think they're stupid. just wanted to let jinx`` know why they're in a separate repo rather than part of ubuntu11:23
Ubuntu_BeginnerAndyR: Why is this information important?11:23
jeramydimatrod, yes11:23
djm62delire: they also last far too long, even if they did what they were supposed to11:23
dimatrodi read something abot "chroot", but didnt quite catch it11:23
delirejgeorgeson: ahah good to explain this to newcomers.11:23
Ubuntu_BeginnerIt's Asus any ways11:23
deliredjm62: correct11:23
AndyRUbuntu_Beginner, may be unsupported chipset11:23
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dimatrodso it would take the same for azureus i suppose....11:23
dimatrodoh well, i guess its better to wait for 64 azureus and wine11:24
dimatrodthanks though11:24
Ubuntu_BeginnerWhere can I find information about supported chipsets?11:24
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=== delire notes people need to be reminded that swpats need to be described as a no benefit legal abstraction put in place precisely for the purpose of killing competition.
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djm62(that applies to all patents, really)11:24
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dbrouwerany body here get an error when compiling wxGTK-2.4.2?11:24
Fazerhello folks11:24
dimatrodsup11:24
dimatrodnope11:24
Fazerman, getting wifi is such a damn pai11:24
dimatrodpie?11:25
djm62((and the idea of conferring a temporary monopoly goes against both capitalist and socialist principles))11:25
Fazer*pain11:25
jeramydbrouwer, are you using apt to do it?  (Just curious)11:25
jgeorgesoni think copyright extension is more a problem than patent length (why do we need to wait until 2074 to get superfreak in public domain?)11:25
webtoehmmm i love pie11:25
dimatrodfrazer, are you using kwifi?11:25
deliredjm62: yes, exactly.11:25
Fazerdimatrod: I can't even get it to see a wifi network11:25
Fazerlet alone even use wlan0 as the interface.11:26
dbrouwerno, i downloaded it (it's for amule) upon doing make i get an error about permission denied make: *** [accel.o]  Error 111:26
dimatroddimatrod: but you did get the wifi card recognize correctly?11:26
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dimatrodi mean, frazer11:27
Fazer*fazer11:27
dimatrodyeah11:27
djm62why was superfreak released to the public anyway ;)11:27
Fazerdimatrod: Yeah... I think so.11:27
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Fazerlike, I could see wlan011:27
Fazerbut it won't see any AP11:27
jeramydbrouwer, does it specifically want 2.4.2?11:27
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dimatrodso i gues it recognizes...11:27
jeramydbrouwer, apt has libwxgtk2.4.2.611:27
dimatrodfazer:  maybe signal is too weak or something11:27
dimatrodor you have to configure to connect to the windows or mac network11:28
jeramydbrouwer, (well, the package is libwxgtk2.4)11:28
djm62Fazer: iwlist scanning?11:28
dimatrodtry seing if the router is mac compatible?11:28
dimatrodi mean, linux11:28
dimatroddamn, reading too much at a time11:28
Fazeryeap, everything.11:28
dimatrododd....11:28
Fazervery11:28
dbrouwerokay, thanks! i am new to ubuntu, how do i apt get the file (what specific command?)11:28
Fazeri was here like 30 minutes ago11:28
Fazerfirst, my ethernet wasn't working11:28
Fazerthen when that was fixed11:29
Fazernoting else would work11:29
Fazeri mean11:29
Fazerwhaat am i saying.11:29
dimatroddbrower: which apt?11:29
FazerUSB is wrkign fine.11:29
dimatrodweird11:29
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Fazermaybe its because of the Live CD?11:29
FazerIf I had it installed, it wouldn't be soo bad?11:29
dimatrodoh, youre using live... maybe it is11:29
jeramydbrouwer, maybe it's in universer11:29
dimatrodi guess11:29
KingArthurwhich works better, a usb modem or trying to get the internal softmodem working?11:29
dimatrodusb11:30
jeramydbrouwer, do you have universe enabled?11:30
dimatrodon the sources.list, dbrower11:30
dbrouwer? dunno, just got ubuntu installed, where and how do i check that?11:30
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dimatrodread the unoficial ubuntu guid11:30
dimatrodguide11:30
jeramydbrouwer, ok, yes, it's in http://www.ubuntuguide.org/11:30
dimatrodhi, i came over to ask if there is any way to port 32 bit wine into 64 bit kubuntu??11:30
KingArthurare most usb modems plug and play in ubuntu?  I want to know before I fork up money for something that won't do the job11:31
djm62dbrouwer: generically 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'11:31
dimatrodyeah11:31
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jeramydbrouwer, the file that you want to edit (using sudo) is /etc/apt/sources.list11:31
jeramyyeah, what he said.  ;)11:31
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jeramydbrouwer, and add universe at the end of "main restricted"11:31
dimatrodhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installssh11:32
dimatrodjust look for it there, its under ssh11:32
dimatrodway below11:32
dbrouwerokay, clear,11:32
dbrouwerthanks11:32
dbrouwerso far11:32
dimatrodwelcomed11:32
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KingArthuranyone here ever use Net Zero for Debian on Ubuntu?  if so, how did it work for you?11:32
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dbrouwerso add the url to the file at the end of main restricted?11:33
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jeramyNo, add universe11:33
dbrouwer"add universe" ?11:33
dbrouweror add "universe"11:33
djm62dbrouwer: the word 'universe'11:33
dbrouwerlol11:33
dbrouwerthanks11:33
jeramydeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe11:34
jeramylike that.11:34
jeramy:)11:34
akkAnybody know much about the installer?11:34
WeirdAlwebtoe, I put "defaults,users" in the option for that mount but I still don't have write permission, it says.11:34
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dbrouwerthanks all11:34
akkIt's lost my cdrom; I tried going back to "Detect and mount CD-ROM" but it doesn't seem to do anything.11:34
akkCan I force it to re-do that step?11:34
jeramydbrouwer, and do it on all of them that don't have a # at the beginning of the line11:34
jgeorgesonWeirdAl, users just lets users mount it. look at the uid/gid/umask options11:35
WeirdAlOK11:35
dbrouwerokay11:35
webtoeWeirdAl: as someone pointed out I was wrong unfortunatly. Make sure that the disk is mounted rw and they you'll have to do the uid thing11:35
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webtoei was wrong you see11:35
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WeirdAlDo you happen to know how  I do the uid thing?11:35
jeramydbrouwer, after you're done that, open up Synaptic (System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager)11:36
WeirdAl<n00b>11:36
webtoeyou use uid=000 or something like that ( i think the number is 000)11:36
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jgeorgesonWeirdAl, uid and gid are the user and group (numeric IDs, found in /etc/passwd and /etc/group) that will own the file system11:36
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QMarioHow do I use Python with GLADE?11:36
mjcanyone have any neat tricks? I'm bored.11:36
djm62akk: what sort of CD drive do you have?11:36
jeramydbrouwer, and then click "Reload"11:36
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webtoebe careful and use the right number or you'll giver everyone access to everyhintg11:37
djm62mjc: get beagle :) bit of effort, but worth it11:37
syndhey whats the URL for the ndiswrapper-utils howto? i cant find it11:37
WeirdAlI see11:37
jgeorgesonWeirdAl, the umask will set the permission bits11:37
dbrouwersorry if i do not respond, i am reading what you write, i got a telephone call i need answer11:37
jeramynp11:37
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akkdjm62: It's a vaio laptop with a single cardbus slot, which has to handle both cd and networking.11:38
jeramydbrouwer, after it reloads, do a search for wxgtk and up it'll pop.  You'll probably want just the libwxgtk2.4 one for now...11:38
akkdjm62: So the question is how to get it to allow networking without losing the cdrom.11:38
WeirdAlOK, my uid and gid are both 100011:38
whiteknightsynd, hey, i was trying to find it last night, it seems have disappeared!11:38
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jeramydbrouwer, I need to go, so if you have any problems, I'm sure someone here will help you out.  :)11:39
djm62ah...11:39
WeirdAlSo I want..? defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=???11:39
dbrouwerjeramy, thanks!11:39
dbrouwerbye11:39
jeramynp11:39
WeirdAlIn the options part?11:39
jeramybye11:39
WeirdAlThat right?11:39
djm62akk: you can set up networking later?11:39
djm62akk: literally, your machine can't network and CD at the same time11:40
akkdjm62: Oh, good.  The sarge installer gets really horked if I try to delay networking, so I worried about that.11:40
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djm62akk: ?11:40
jgeorgesonWeirdaAl, you'll have to expirment with the umask values, maybe man umask11:40
syndwhiteknight: hmm..11:40
akkdjm62: Right, it can't network and cd at the same time.11:40
syndwhiteknight: well i need to set up ndiswrapper and i cant remember how!11:40
WeirdAlis that the way it's done though?11:40
jgeorgesonWeirdAl, yeah11:40
WeirdAlOK thanks11:40
djm62akk: delay networking, you can configure it later (do it asap)11:40
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WeirdAl:-s no man umask11:40
webtoeWeirdAl: yes that how it done. Don't know whether you need all three though. Search www.google.co.uk/linux for umask and you should find what you need11:40
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WeirdAlthanks11:41
akkdjm62: Thanks, I'll try that.  It'll give me a chance to load the network drivers later?11:41
jgeorgesonif you set the umask to give group write, but not world write, everyone who is going to use it will need to be added to group 100011:41
djm62akk: yeah...it will do it anyway (hotplug)11:41
jgeorgesonWeirdAl, I suspect, however, that group 1000 is the private group created for your account, so you might consider using the 'users' group or, creating a wine group, and adding everyone who gets to write to the /wine partition to that group11:42
WeirdAlIt is, but I'm the only user.11:42
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WeirdAlI don't get how masks work, TBH, but rather than a long explanation ('cause I'm tired :-) ), what's the umask for user rwx, group rwx and everyone else ---?11:43
jgeorgesonWeirdAl, ok. you probably don't need to mess with umask, then. why not just run wine out of you home directory in that case?11:43
djm62is there a reason ubuntu doesn't use a graphical boot sequence?11:43
WeirdAlBecause I have a new partition for it.11:43
WeirdAlI tried to resize my main partition but I couldn't find anything to do it.11:44
WeirdAlSo I created a new partition and I'm using it for my wine apps.11:44
jgeorgesonWeirdAl, ah11:44
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jgeorgesonWeirdAl, start with 007 and play around until it's right11:44
WeirdAlI'll try it without a umask first.11:45
WeirdAlSince I own it.11:45
WeirdAlostensibly11:45
InitMasswhich file is good to use root-tail on?11:45
akkWhat is "configure a multiseat system"?11:45
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PingussEvening guys, I just installed Ubuntu here at my friends place and I'm having some trouble with what looks like the nvidia drivers, I followed the binary-how-to from the website and everything seems to go well and X starts up fine, but When i tested glxgears, it hung the system after about 10 seconds, its a brand new XFX 6600GT AGP video card... anybody have any ideas?11:45
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LassenIs my first time instaling UBUNTU, and the intallation proces give to my a error in "Configure apt".  What can be?11:46
supertedPinguss: are they gonna use the computer for gaming? if not i don't see the use for the nvidia drivers11:46
Pingusssuperted: yes he is planing on getting a cedega subscription so he can play City of Heroes11:47
jgeorgesonPinguss, does the howto direct you to using nvidia.com's stuff, or a repo with .deb packagse?11:47
webtoePinguss: and did you run glxgears from a console?any output?11:47
Pingussjgeorgeson, it directs to apt-get install nvidia-glx11:47
webtoeerror messages etc.11:47
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Pingussno errors, just pure hanging then the monitor shuts off and blinks11:47
djm62akk: multiple simultaneous users11:47
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supertedPinguss: well, does everything except for glxgears work?11:47
djm62akk: you can uninstall it later if you don't want it11:47
jgeorgesonPinguss, did you compare what version you get from the .deb packages to what's available at nvidia.com?11:47
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Pingussdpkg tells me its 7174 thats installed and that seems to be the latest on nvidia.coms site11:48
akkdjm62: What does that mean at install time?  Doesn't linux always support multiple users if you create accounts for them?11:48
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Pingusssuperted, I've tryed tuxracer too, same thing, it hangs after bout 10 seconds, seems anything that hits GL for more then a few seconds11:48
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WeirdAljgeorgeson, I set it uid=1000,gid=1000 and it's still mounted as root/root11:49
webtoePinguss: have you checked the docs and seen which opengl is being used. Remebered that you used to have to make sure a glx module was or wasn't being loaded11:49
omegI've got a problem. I just followed the upgrade information on the Hoary wiki (upgrading from Warty to Hoary) but when I try to start the Synaptic package manager, it says that it cannot find the files which I just put in my config file.11:49
PingussI followed some steps i found on a forum to switch to the NvAGP module instead of AGPGART but it acts the exact same way11:49
kanuhaCan anyone tell me what the name of the applet for KDE is that shows your network connection?11:49
jgeorgesonWeirdAl, did you umount after editing /etc/fstab?11:50
webtoePinguss: you might need to check in the xorg.conf file to check what i just blurted11:50
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WeirdAl/dev/hda4 /wine ext2 defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 011:50
WeirdAlI reset!11:50
jmarica9416sorry new at ubuntu...is there a package in the default repositories for kerberos, or do i have to hunt down a repository11:50
djm62akk: yes it does, but things like gnome etc can be less happy11:50
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Pingusswebtoe, part of the steps were to comment out load DRI and GLCore and to make sure GLX was loading, i've done that11:50
jbaileyjmarica9416: MIT's krb5 packages are in main.11:50
jmarica9416jbailey: thanks11:51
webtoek that's all i could think of i'm afraid ;-)11:51
omegSo basically, I followed the instructions on the Hoary wiki, but I can't update from Warty to Hoary.11:51
djm62akk: for that matter, things like sshd, or even multiple keyboard/monitor support11:51
PingussIs there any known issues with 6600GT's ???11:51
WeirdAloh, maybe it's that.11:51
LinuxJonesPinguss, >> http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:YZ79QnTiQzUJ:lists.zerezo.com/debian-user/0623.html++XFX+6600GT+debian&hl=en&client=firefox11:51
toresbeYes!!! they're expensive !!! :(11:51
akkdjm62: Oh, doing that step meant I get things like sshd?  Good, I definitely need that.11:51
toresbePinguss: :P11:51
kanuhaCan anyone tell me what the name of the applet for KDE is that shows your network connection?11:52
Pingusstoresbe: OOOoooo that looks dangerous... wonder if i should risk it11:52
omegCan anybody help me upgrade from Warty to Hoary? The installation instructions on the Wiki didn't work because of an error.11:52
Pingussmessing with the clocks thru hardware..11:52
djm62akk: anything you want is only an apt-get away anyhow :)11:52
Pingusshrmm11:52
jgeorgesonWeirdAl, I'm not sure ext2 supports uid/gid. for some reason I assumed vfat11:52
martinhjtoresbe, bruker Ubuntu du ogs?11:53
WeirdAlWell there's nothing on it.11:53
toresbemartinhj: yep :)11:53
WeirdAlI could reformat as ext311:53
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WeirdAlDoes that?11:53
akklinux-386, linux-image-386, or linux-image-2.6.10-5-38611:53
jmarica9416jbailey: do you mean the libkrb53 files...looks like it is installed by i cannot locate krb.conf or kinit command11:54
jgeorgesonWeirdAl, files under /wine are owned by root, or /wine itself?11:54
akkI guess I'll choose the third one 'cause at least then I know what I'm choosing.  Sort of.11:54
WeirdAl/wine itself11:54
omegCan anybody help me upgrade from Warty to Hoary? The installation instructions on the Wiki didn't work because of an error.11:54
martinhjtoresbe, har ikke s mye  utsette, men har hadde tilsynelatende random freezes.. fant ut at det var laptop_mode da jeg kjrte batteri..11:54
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martinhjellers fornyd;-)11:54
jgeorgesonWeirdAl, what if you create a file under /wine?11:54
WeirdAlI have to be root11:54
toresbemartinhj: this is an english channel, we can talk in #linux.no :)11:54
WeirdAlSo it gets created as root11:54
jbaileyjmarica9416: krb5-user is probably a good choice.  It's not in main, sorry - jus tthe libraries are.11:54
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stashi11:55
stashow can I restart the X server?11:55
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webtoectrl-alt-backspace11:55
stasctrlaltbackspc only kills it11:55
jgeorgesonWeirdAl: ok, you and webtoe are going to love this, instead of uid/gid, give the users option and mount it as yourself rather than as root11:55
NotANickctrl alt backspace11:55
toresbestas: ctrl-alt-backspace11:55
martinhjtoresbe, :-)11:55
stasso I have to restart my whole computer11:55
stasto get X back11:55
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imperfect-Howdy folks11:55
thenukeit restarts X on my PC's11:55
WeirdAlO_o11:55
toresbestas: that Shouldn't Happen (tm)11:55
stasit goes to ablack console screen sometimes on mine11:55
webtoejgreorgeson: lol!! no i'm wrong dammit!11:55
omegCan anybody help me upgrade from Warty to Hoary? The installation instructions on the Wiki didn't work because of an error.11:55
stasSOMETIMES it restarts X11:56
jgeorgesonstas, X restarts for me on ctrl+alt+del11:56
jmarica9416jbailey: thanks...would you happen to know a good repository that i can use11:56
omegI'm talking about this page, by the way: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary11:56
webtoeno stas, ctrl-alt- backspace not the del key11:56
stasI am using ubuntu11:56
djm62stas: or go to a console (ctrl-alt-f1) and do 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'11:56
jgeorgesonstas, if you have sshd running you could also try to ssh in from another machine (if you can't switch terminals)11:57
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omeg+o(11:57
SeamusLPstas:  When that happens restart gdm11:57
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stassee11:57
stasit did it again11:57
stasI did sudo pkill gdm11:57
stasand sudo gdm11:57
stasto get it running again11:58
stascan I make it so I don't have to do that11:58
djm62stas: 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'11:58
jgeorgesonstas, look at the /var/log/xorg.log to see why it crashed11:58
djm62will be kinder11:58
jgeorgesonstas, and what djm62 said11:58
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imperfect-try ctrl-alt-f111:59
amonkeywhich package should i get to get the fuse module?11:59
imperfect-that'll get you /dev/tty111:59
imperfect-or the first getty11:59
WeirdAljgeorgeson, guess what?11:59
ubnuserhi, i am having trouble installing flash support for firefox (i tried the FAQ)12:00

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