[06:57] <markc> would customizing the desktop on the livecd be as simple as saving a users ./kde/share to /etc/skel ?
[08:03] <markc> well, time to try out another livecd coaster
[04:24] <_admin> wow, it worked... I'm dialed in from a remastered livecd
[04:31] <Riddell> _admin: cool, how did you remaster it?
[06:01] <_admin> Riddell> oh, I've been testing apps on another screen... I didn't think anyone was alive :)
[06:02] <_admin> Riddell> I started with some details from the Ubuntu wiki about customizing and after 2WEEKS!! I finally managed to get thi sfar
[06:03] <_admin> Riddell>  without messing with d-i or udebs, so far
[06:10] <_admin> actually, time to try another coaster and see if I can finally get rid of that stupid sudo stuff once and for all.. and to kill off dhcp altogether because it keeps taking my cable connection down... but for both of these I suspect I'll have to figure out how to rebuild those udebs, once I figure out which ones
[06:30] <uniq> anyone using breezy? 
[06:30] <uniq> usb storage-stuff is broken.
[07:07] <crimsun> uniq: hmm?
[07:07] <crimsun> uniq: do you mean "hotplugging a usb thumbdrive (or something similar) doesn't work?"
[07:12] <uniq> yes.
[07:12] <uniq> downgraded hotplug to hoary-version works.
[07:13] <crimsun> for Breezy? ok, I'll look.
[07:14] <crimsun> it's probably not loading sd_mod
[07:14] <uniq> apparently the same problem exists in debian sid.
[07:19] <crimsun> makes sense, Breezy's is a simple resync
[07:25] <uniq> i know.
[07:40] <crimsun> does loading sd_mod work around the issue?
[07:45] <uniq> checking.. 
[07:46] <uniq> yes, it does.
[07:46] <uniq> for me.. anyway.
[07:48] <crimsun> good. Will look in a bit.
[08:13] <froud> what is standard install footprint of Kubuntu after first boot, in MB
[08:13] <froud> what is standard install footprint after first boot without kde (servermode), in MB
[08:13] <froud> under qemu kubuntu install footprint with kde is 1024 MB. Is this the expected size of  the footprint on fixed media?