=== downclimb [~johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@c-3547e055.560-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === eggy [eggy@eggy.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu [12:11] RustyShackleford: kdegames? [12:11] Better than nothing. === _claydoh is now known as claydoh [12:12] should also have tuxracer methinks [12:12] look in the games section of ... aptitude, synaptics or that kind of thing === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [12:19] ok...the free crack game abuse is playing in dosbox...but without midi...ubuntu did not set that up correctly i think [12:19] but that does open a lot of free dos games and linux games for the free os === justinlbarnes [~justinlba@70-97-232-115.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu === justinlbarnes is now known as RustyShackleford [12:22] it does seem a little slow at this time...but i suppose dosbox will improve....at least it is a beginning === sorin [~sorin@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:22] every time I try and use ksysguard, it comes up with an error message saying "connection to localhost has been lost" immediately after starting. What can I do about this? === B-E-N [~ben@adsl-62-167-32-239.adslplus.ch] has joined #kubuntu === kmanTFM [~kman@p5.pub.ro] has joined #kubuntu === sorin [~sorin@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:45] hi [12:45] could someone please tell me where the KDM config util is? === sorin [~sorin@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === le-sens-commun [~le-sens-c@ARennes-306-1-30-249.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [~ubuntu@220-253-111-10.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu is now known as jacquesmerde === justinlbarnes [~justinlba@70-97-232-115.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu === justinlbarnes is now known as RustyShackleford === blenderhead [~Blenderhe@adsl-214-71-19.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:09] sorin: /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc [01:11] oops, too late === ben_ch [~ben@adsl-62-167-32-239.adslplus.ch] has joined #kubuntu === justinlbarnes [~justinlba@70-97-232-115.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu === justinlbarnes is now known as RustyShackleford === CellarDoor [~CellarDoo@d220-237-216-177.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === sorin [~sorin@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] hi [01:39] I'm having problems with a ntfs partition [01:39] i mounted it, but I can't access the files [01:40] sorin: can you access them as sudo? === smouche [~bc@cpe-24-90-94-112.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:41] yes [01:44] i tried to chown, but it won't let me [01:47] yeeyee [01:48] where do you change that ugly purple background in konqueror [01:48] i looked under appearance [01:48] you should look under konqueror [01:49] hey wtf [01:50] under quenqueror's appearance [01:50] no [01:50] you start konqueror [01:50] and you choose something like view -> change background [01:50] or something like that [01:50] sorin: you can't chown on an ntfs partition [01:51] you open that home thing [01:51] i want to copy the my documents folder and delete the windows partition [01:51] then move the linux partition and resize [01:52] cp seems to only work with files [01:52] sorin: cp -R [01:52] you probably have to use sudo to do all the copying [01:52] you can use --help or -help with every command or when you want more detailed help then man cp [01:52] yeah === whiskers [~whiskers@ppp-68-89-169-124.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:54] Assuming this works, what do I use for move and resize? [01:54] gosh...that blindfolded pianist playing the old mario, zelda, and final fantasy songs is really amazing [01:54] sorin: qtparted works pretty well [01:54] whiskers: ? [01:54] glass-eye, you have not seen the mario video of the blindfolded pianist [01:54] whiskers: nay [01:55] that guy is amazing [01:55] link? [01:55] www.videogamepia0nist.com...and look for video section === qcompson [~qcompson@resnet163-132.resnet.buffalo.edu] has joined #kubuntu [01:56] thanks [01:56] it uses wmv9 which works on my win98....but for some people that can use wincodecs on linux and not in the US it should work for them too [01:56] glass-eye, take a look at the first mario video...it is amazing how he can play all that blindfolded === blenderhead [~blenderhe@adsl-214-71-19.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === justinlbarnes [~justinlba@70-97-232-115.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:01] glass-eye, did you see the video...this guy is out of this world === justinlbarnes is now known as RustyShackleford [02:02] glass-eye, you should see how fast his fingers move in the zelda video === smouche [~bc@cpe-24-90-94-112.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === _qcompson [~qcompson@resnet163-132.resnet.buffalo.edu] has joined #kubuntu === _qcompson [~qcompson@resnet163-132.resnet.buffalo.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:07] hi everyone === alex [~alex@81.56.181.124] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === alex [~alex@81.56.181.124] has joined #kubuntu === alex is now known as _alex [02:08] <_alex> hi everyone [02:09] <_alex> i have a problem with kaffeine [02:09] glass-eye, i misspelled it.....www.videogamepianist.com [02:09] <_alex> although i close kaffeine, it is still in the processes list [02:09] <_alex> and kaffeine eats about 30% of my CPU [02:10] <_alex> i have to do a "killall kaffeine" to stop it [02:10] <_alex> does anyone has the same problem ? === gwen [~gwen@82.249.134.156] has joined #kubuntu [02:12] Is there a disk defragmenter for linux? [02:13] _alex: so, kill it === _troy [~troy@adsl-67-67-196-183.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] <_alex> the thing is: kaffeine shouldn't eat so much cpu and it should stop when i close it [02:14] <_alex> sorin: no need for a disk defragmenter with linux [02:14] how come? [02:16] <_alex> file system under linux doesn't need to be defragmented [02:16] really? [02:17] I thought that all file systems have fragmentation problems. [02:17] <_alex> in fact there is fragmentation, but linux file systems tend to minimize it [02:18] Actually, I'd like to convert ubuntu's ext3 to raiserfs [02:20] <_alex> the only way is to store your data on a temporary location, while you're formating your disk to reiserfs [02:20] I can't believe I made the move to Linux because of an audio application. I fell in love with amaroK. [02:21] whats so cool about amorak [02:21] never used it [02:21] ext3 is better choice, belive me [02:21] i mean, ext3 is much stable [02:21] _alex: That could be possible after I see all the movies and sync all the audio with my iPod. [02:22] amaroK? try it and see for yourself. === kkathman [~kkathman@h-66-167-142-40.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:22] i think i have too few cpu and ram power for that [02:22] I'm running it on 700Mhz PIII with 524 MiB of RAM. [02:23] i'm running transmeta crusoe ~566mhz with 256ram [02:23] Is there a K-Lite Codec Pack style-pack for linux? [02:24] umm === wirwzd [~wirwzd@nh-londndry-c41-bg2a-03-189.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === kkathman [~kkathman@h-66-167-142-40.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:24] i think that if you install mplayer with essential codecs + oggvorbis stuff... well at least every time i have done it i have never thought about codecs again [02:25] it is possible though that xine and vlc do something like that too, but i so like mplayer [02:25] hey everyone :) [02:25] i need xvid/divx/AAC/windows media/real media [02:25] and why? there isn't better player [02:26] of course i have to compile mplayer for every computer i use it on, but it is damn worth it [02:26] xine is good, but it has like those bells and whistles i have hard time disabling, and it still isn't that fast on my laptop... mplayer plays so smoothly [02:27] k-lite codec pack comes with quicktime/real plugins for the browsers without having to install real and quicktime too [02:27] well, when you install mplayer with essential codecs you should get every codec [02:27] I like apps that look like apps. That's the success of iTunes. [02:27] That's the reason I like amaroK. [02:28] I got fed up with winamp. === justinlbarnes [~justinlba@70-97-232-115.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu === justinlbarnes is now known as RustyShackleford [02:29] actually i'm a bit confused that i haven't seen mplayer as default player for popular linux distros [02:29] How do you set the threading priority for a process? [02:30] but maybe the issue that you have to compile it to get best results is the key here [02:30] umm, whats threading priority [02:30] when you mean like the cpu consuming priority then this thing is called nice [02:31] yeah [02:31] glass-eye, did you see that blind pianist video [02:31] on windows you Low BelowNormal Normal AboveNormal RealTime [02:31] from console you could type top, and then type r ...write pid and then write something like 19... which is most lowerst priority [02:31] glass-eye, blindfolded and playing video game music [02:32] -19 is most highest, which only root can use... 0 - 19 can be used only by normal users === Punkt__ [~monkey@adsl-business-212-101-27-125.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] anyway, when you want to do something like that in kde then ctrl+esc should help [02:32] whiskers: i haven't had a chance to watch yet...baby is asleep [02:34] glass-eye, be sure to take a look...it is well worth it and it costs nothing. [02:34] glass-eye, now i am listening to an audio file he has and it is absolutely amazing music in the final fantasy collection of his audio files [02:35] glass-eye, i have to say that of all the video games and stuff i have ever seen....nothing beats the music in the final fantasy series [02:37] glass-eye, that final fantasy 7 prelude is absolutely genius [02:45] notes in music are like the Lego pieces in Linux....there are millions of them and they have to put in proper alignment to create genius [02:48] but i have to play it on my Win98 because i live in the US and i can't put the w32codecs on my linux [02:48] and for some reason he chose to use mp3 [02:54] this guy kinda reminds me of KennyG....those instrumentalists are the best ....that offer incredible sequences of notes....without all the noise and confusions of words [02:55] can you tell cp copy all stuff in foo without dirs a b and c? === justinlbarnes [~justinlba@70-97-232-115.dsl2.cok.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu === justinlbarnes is now known as RustyShackleford [02:57] but the prelude to ff7 and the ending theme to ff10 are out of this world...nothing like them anywhere === qcompson [~qcompson@resnet163-132.resnet.buffalo.edu] has joined #kubuntu [02:58] has anyone else had problems with Render Accel? === Bicchi [~chatzilla@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === mainer [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-149.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:02] Where can I find a standard game pack for Kubuntu? [03:03] RustyShackleford, which games are you looking for there are thousands of free ones [03:03] install synaptic at cli,and install from there,much easier [03:03] RustyShackleford, what type and which one [03:03] Maelstrom is a sweet game [03:03] apt-get update,apt-get install synaptic,install kde-games [03:03] but ff7 is not free as far as i know..i had to pay $1.98 for it here [03:03] The best one. [03:04] Thanks mainer. [03:05] RustyShackleford, there are so many kinds of games: puzzles, logic, action, adventure, RPG, MMORPG, FPS, strategy, tactical, and so on....what kind are you looking for [03:05] n.p.,like Kubuntu,but kynaptic needs work [03:05] Kpackage is good,should have that in archives,for kde... [03:13] can you tell cp copy all stuff in foo without dirs a b and c? [03:17] RustyShackleford, anyway there are an incredible number of free games....just look at free dos games, free windows games, free sdl games, and so forth.....there are just a few that seem to command a market price....like Grand Theft Auto 4 and Final Fant 12 and True Crime and Half-Life and Quake and Zelda....well that is about it [03:18] Thanks [03:18] How do I get gkrellm === stelt [~stelt@dabrick1.kabel.utwente.nl] has joined #kubuntu === KK|AFK is now known as kakalto === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:22] RustyShackleford, and right now the highest premium game of all is Grand Theft Auto....because so many people love to beat the living hell out of prostitues and shoot all the police cars [03:23] RustyShackleford, but it is not my cup of tea === cheeeong [~cheeeong@cm192.omega175.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu [03:27] I enjoy beating prostitutes and shooting police cars === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-151-205-45-125.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:28] I'd like the abiliy to right click on a shortcut or executable and click "Run as " like in windows. [03:29] sorin, well....windows cost money just like Grand Theft Auto...because some people are willing to pay for those kinds of features [03:29] At least Run as root would be nice [03:30] sorin, just use the free stuff even if it not so good...at least it is free [03:30] Actually, it is good. I moved to linux because of amaroK:-). [03:30] sorin, yes i saw amarok on gentoo...it was nice. [03:31] i hope it works well with the ipod [03:31] sorin, so you know...sometimes you get lucky and get some nice free stuff...and sometimes you make do with what you can.....but it beats paying outrageous prices for Lambhorgini material [03:32] Windows is not lamborggini. [03:32] sorin, well some people think it is...look how much they are willing to pay for it [03:32] It's more like an overpriced Skoda:-) [03:33] neah, it comes with the computer, and its price is usually not listed. [03:33] I think it costs OEMs $10 though. [03:33] sorin: Trablant ;) [03:33] Trabant. that thing is made of carboard [03:33] sorin, no it doesn't...you can buy the hardware all over the place in all kinds of pieces and not have to pay for windows......but people like to spend enormous amounts of money for windows.....don't ask me why [03:34] exactly [03:34] have you ever been in one? [03:34] thankfully, no [03:34] a skoda is a ferarri compared to that junk [03:35] ME must be the Trablant, then [03:35] i can't believe the germans built that rubbish [03:35] "trabant" [03:35] http://www.google.com/search?q=trabant&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 === Mussi [~Mussi@mussi.user] has joined #kubuntu [03:36] i did saw a cool trabant though. That dude did something like those tv shows. It had every cool thing available. [03:39] I've been wondering why Konqueror does not work with GMAIL while Safari does. === stelt [~stelt@dabrick1.kabel.utwente.nl] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] i talked to one game programmer and asked him...why is it that the most base level of games are the most successful....like Grand Theft Auto 4....and he said the games will go to the very bottom of humanity because there is a market for it [03:45] Humanity craves for the things that it does not have or it is not allowed to do. Therefore, those things will always sell. [03:45] and i still cannot figure out why so many people around the world will pay such high prices just to beat the living hell out of helpless prostitutes and watch the blood spurt out of them....and blow up all the police cars. [03:46] I played all the GTA games. [03:46] It's fun. [03:46] You can't do that in real life. === bur[n] er [~norml@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:47] sorin, well it is not my cup of tea ...but it sure is commanding market attention === Brazmetal [~aguinaldo@200141159220.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [03:49] right now i'm playing splinter cell chaos theory and halo 2 [03:50] okay === mainer [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-149.gwi.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:50] all files transfered [03:51] it is time to delete /dev/hda1 [03:52] sorin, must be new stuff....i have not heard of them...is that on new hardware. [03:52] hello [03:52] you never heard of HALO? [03:52] sorin, i heard of Halo...yes...on the new MS Xbox hardware....but that was some time ago...i have not heard of Halo 2 [03:53] it was released a few months ago [03:53] Does someone here use kubuntu, ADSL through router and static local Ip ? [03:53] still on xbox [03:53] spliter cell chaos theory is also on xbox [03:53] sorin, oh..that is why i have not heard of it.....and xbox is proprietary so i don't have that either [03:54] sorin, the only splinter i remember was something to do with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles [03:54] sorin, but that was some time ago [03:55] if games were all morally righteous, there would be a boring selection of games [03:55] Spliter Cell, Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow, and Spliter Cell: Chaos Theory. [03:55] playstation is also proprietary [03:56] gamecube is also proprietary [03:56] qcompson, well i don't know about that....of course my experience is old...but in my day i enjoyed Ultima, Robin Hood, Monkey Island, King's Quest, and so on....very righteous games [03:56] qcompson, but things have changed a lot since then [03:57] qcompson, even enjoyed The Beast Within...also very righteous [03:57] How do I install the Debian menu? [03:57] whiskers, I also enjoyed the old sierra games, and they were great [03:57] qcompson, but well things have changed a lot since those days. [03:58] whiskers, there were also a lot of war games back then [03:58] qcompson, and the game programmers say they have to go where the money is. [03:58] qcompson, well yes...even there were battles in the Beast Within but the righteous won them [03:58] qcompson, but today things are much different [03:58] whiskers, so would you blame the game-makers or the consumers? [03:59] qcompson, i don't know anything...i stay out of it [03:59] whiskers, doom was out a while ago.. was that righteous? [03:59] qcompson, no ....Doom was extremely popular because it was evil [04:00] qcompson, like Grand Theft Auto [04:00] whiskers, ok... that's cool... [04:00] qcompson, and True Crime [04:01] whiskers, I don't want to get into an argument, let's just agree people are evil :) [04:01] qcompson, well more politely...they are lacking. [04:02] whiskers, no, they are quite human, they are whole [04:02] qcompson, well it is all so confusing and debatable...i just stay out of it [04:02] whiskers, good call [04:06] any use for powernowd on a desktop machine? [04:14] hey... [04:14] talking about powernowd [04:15] why, even disabling some services in rcconf [04:15] the system try to terminate theses processes on shutdown? === darkaudit is trying to find out why this box's clock gained 5 minutes in 8 hours... === mainer [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-149.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:18] athlon xp 2500+ running as a 3000+ [04:24] hmm [04:24] does fedex run on sunday? [04:24] nope [04:24] saturday? === mfoxela [~legolas@port-212-202-9-80.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu [04:24] powernowd had the CPU going from 1.65GHz to 2.2GHz [04:25] my ipod is 4 miles [04:25] sorin: Saturdays are extra... usually not, though [04:26] my ipod is 4 miles away [04:27] what is the difference between printer model and printer model gdi? [04:28] sorin, well i don't know what you are referring to but in the old days gdi was graphics drawing interface [04:29] sorin, but could mean anything today [04:29] in the printer drivers list in kde printers [04:29] sorin, could mean anything today [04:32] i selected the one without [04:32] it works [04:32] everybody is spewing out acronyms for some reason..sse, 3dn,xslt,xml, hpt, smp, etc [04:32] love the gui. cups is horrible witohut [04:32] don't ask me why [04:33] nasa has acronyms for acronyms [04:33] there is ddos, i2, phishing, and all kinds of stuff === Chameleon22 [~serg@220-244-235-173-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [04:35] sorin, yes ubuntu really messed up cups and foomatic...maybe they will fix them later [04:35] whiskers: ..."messed up"...? [04:35] whiskers: in Hoary? Breezy? [04:36] crimsun, yes completely messed up...if you http://localhost:631 you cannot get in [04:36] for cups....and foomatic-configure breaks now when you try to use it to take advantage of all the filters [04:36] crimsun, ubuntu really screwed that up [04:37] crimsun, but maybe they will fix it later [04:38] whiskers: got to my cups pages just fine in Hoary === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp55-210.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:38] darkaudit, what did you type for the user and password at port 631 [04:38] nothing [04:39] darkaudit, nothing doesn't work here it keeps asking for username and password [04:40] whiskers: I tried clicking on Administration once I got into Manage Printers... now it's stuck asking for login :( [04:40] darkaudit, yep....it is a big ubuntu mistake..along with foomatic-configure...but maybe someday [04:40] I added a passwd for root, but it's not taking it [04:41] darkaudit, that is right...it seems to be broken in ubuntu...and is a major loss [04:41] Administrative tasks have been disabled for security reasons. Please use Menu System > Administration > Printing [04:41] that's not broken. [04:41] it was designed that way. [04:42] darkaudit, we don't want that....we want the flexibility of cups and foomatic command lines [04:42] whiskers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20176 [04:42] darkaudit, it is a major break [04:42] it is not broken. A tool is provided. You can also use the method outlined at that url. [04:43] It means I have to log out of this perfectly fine fluxbox session, go into GNOME, tinker with the printer, then go back to flux again... [04:43] Everything seems to work in KDE. [04:44] 'course, kprinter is in the fluxbox menu :) [04:44] crimsun, ok i see the fix for cups...but how about foomatic-configure it is much more important [04:44] Have any of you used QTParted? [04:44] whiskers: I'd search the wiki/forum. That's precisely what I did just a few minutes ago for that url. [04:45] sorin, i used it on gentoo but at the time it only resized partitions...not really of much use [04:45] (well to be honest I used Google to search) [04:45] from current hd or a live cd? [04:45] crimsun, well i have tried several things with foomatic-configure and so far nothing works [04:46] crimsun, same type of problem with glom...just can't get it to work right now [04:46] sorin: I did to set up the SATA partition before I found that the boot sequence was hosed... system didn't load the correct modules, and wanted to check the filesystem before the drive was ready [04:47] I want to delete hda1 (40 GiB with Windows), move hda2 and increase its size by 40 GiB [04:47] crimsun, the fix works for cups and it is very nice to be able to see all the completed jobs in cups [04:48] crimsun, but there needs to be a way to fix foomatic-configure....it is so important [04:49] Since it claims to be a Partition Magic clone, it should work from current hdd [04:49] sorin: but not on an active partition... [04:49] best bet is to run from a live CD [04:50] meaning that he lied [04:51] even Partition Magic would have to reboot into a special session to finish it's tasks if the edited partition had been active... [04:54] QTParted could do the same. Then it can claim that it is a PM clone. [04:54] sorin: who lied? [04:55] the dev on the site [04:56] you should file a lawsuit, bastards, developing a free program that does a pretty damn good job...those bastards... [04:57] :-) [04:57] you can't take a joke? [04:57] you can't either? [04:57] is the socket in linux better? the transfer speeds look like they are on steroids [04:58] windows uses BSD's network layer [04:58] Linux does a fair number of things smartly for a standard desktop or server workload [05:01] okay [05:01] good night [05:01] crimsun, well i noticed that php is still not working with apache2...i am not sure why....but the error logs say something about permissions problem [05:02] crimsun, but i am not running a website anyway so i don't really care [05:02] crimsun, just a problem for ubuntu to look into for the next version [05:02] whiskers: please report it on the bug tracker [05:03] crimsun, well i used the bug tracker for glom but murray did not seem interested in resolving the problem...perhaps it is a difficult one at this time [05:04] crimsun, so i did get pgaccess working with the help of tcl/tk...for the time being [05:04] whiskers: on the bugzilla.u.c? [05:04] s/the//g === ttf_ [~tom@p83.129.15.230.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:05] does someone here have the problem of network just working with dhcp ? [05:05] Brazmetal: how do you want it to work? [05:05] crimsun, where does debian keep all the env files for a similar command to env-update in gentoo [05:06] crimsun, so you don't have to do everything by hand [05:06] crimsun, or ubuntu [05:06] whiskers: I don't know what ,,env-update'' accomplishes [05:06] glass-eye, I want my network with static local ip [05:07] glass-eye, Now, running this release, the netwoek just works in dhcp mode. [05:07] crimsun, well on gentoo they use a service called envd or something and there is a directory /etc/env.d where many env files are kept....and you can update the entire system environment with env-update command === siimo [~siimo@siimo.user] has joined #kubuntu [05:08] Brazmetal: check the /etc/network/interfaces file [05:08] crimsun, i could not find a similar situation here so far...but it is new to me === glass-eye is a gentoo convert as well [05:08] is there any plans to make kbuntu looks like ubuntu? i mean like fedora or mandrake does for their desktops (themes?) [05:08] siimo: not that I'm aware of, though I'm not as involved with kde integration [05:09] whiskers: I'm still unclear on its function, but I'll google === LeeJunFan [junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:09] glass-eye, i had alreado done it... no success... can you read my thread at ubuntuforum.org? [05:09] ok [05:10] crimsun, ok...it is a very useful feature of gentoo for development purposes [05:10] Brazmetal: link? [05:10] glass-eye, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26432&highlight=dhcp === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === hhup [~hhup@i-83-67-16-178.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:12] see i have right now one env file for postgresql 8.0.2 and i have no idea what folder to put it into on ubuntu and how to automatically update the system environment [05:12] Brazmetal, what is it exactly that you are looking for? [05:13] fortunately it seems to be working with pgaccess....but there could be something i am missing === _root [~root@200.58.78.211] has joined #kubuntu [05:14] Brazmetal: none of their suggestions worked? [05:14] your resolve.conf is correct? [05:14] glass-eye, yes... i put working ones... [05:14] the dns adrress in my network [05:15] can be the adress of the router [05:15] and the dns adresses of the provider [05:15] <_root> hola === guran [~guran@one08.rsn.bth.se] has joined #kubuntu [05:15] you can't ping outside the network? [05:16] crimsun, the command was env-update or etc-update or something like that in gentoo...if you can find something similar in ubuntu === _root is now known as _javier_ [05:17] Brazmetal, so you want to use DHCP but don't want to use DNS servers provided by DHCP ? [05:17] glass-eye, yes. [05:17] siimo: no, he wants to setup a static ip [05:17] <_javier_> hello world !!! [05:17] siimo, no... I dont want to use dhcp.. [05:17] siimo, i dont need it... I've got this problem after isntalling the last hoary [05:17] and whats the problem you are having [05:18] sii: can you read my thread? [05:18] ok reading now === qcompson [~qcompson@resnet163-132.resnet.buffalo.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:19] glass-eye, you can see in the thread it's not a dns problem [05:19] <_javier_> Hello, i have a question [05:19] <_javier_> where does kynaptic stores the donwloaded programs ? [05:20] Brazmetal: you've tried rebooting i assume? [05:20] glass-eye, of course.. [05:20] Brazmetal, so you are following the instructions but you dont have network connectivity still? using the static ip way [05:21] siimo, bingo eheheh [05:21] <_javier_> : ( [05:22] siimo, I have always used this scenario with other distros, even kubuntu/ubuntu previous releases [05:22] Brazmetal: i don't know the answer, sorry [05:23] Brazmetal, and it worked previously? [05:23] _javier_: /var/cache/apt [05:23] glass-eye, norma... ehehhe there are many people with this same problema... === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [05:23] _javier_: /var/cache/apt/archives actually. [05:24] siimo, not with this release.. but it works in windows... I have used ubuntu warty, ubuntu/kubuntu hoary preview and there was no problem [05:24] _javier_: it's not kynaptic that stores them there though, it's apt-get, for which kynaptic is simply a gui frontend for. [05:25] Brazmetal, are you sure you arent missing some package? [05:25] <_javier_> thanks :) [05:25] Brazmetal, tried apt-get install ubuntu-base ? [05:25] oh wait [05:25] dhcp works [05:25] nvm [05:25] siimo, I don't know.... But i detected this problem just after booting first time... [05:26] it works for me, though im using DHCP now i have tried static ip before [05:27] <_javier_> can I store *deb directly in /var/cache/apt to install without download ? === texel [~texel@osiris.icrt.cu] has joined #kubuntu [05:27] you can install .deb directly with dpkg -i [05:27] _javier_, yes you can [05:27] <_javier_> and, how can i install *deb ? i am new debian user [05:28] _javier_, /var/cache/apt/archives/ [05:28] <_javier_> i know only rom [05:28] <_javier_> rpm [05:29] _javier_, man dpkg [05:29] _javier_: rpm -i = dpkg -i [05:29] <_javier_> oh ! [05:29] <_javier_> thanks [05:29] <_javier_> 2 easy !! [05:31] siimo, why dont you try? [05:32] siimo, do you have a dsl connection throug a gateway? [05:32] Hello. I just installed kubuntu on a i386 machine, and I need Java. I've read the documents @ the site and Googled a bit, but all the instructions did not work for me. Has anyone here been succesful with Java? [05:32] texel: i just downloaded the self extracting binary from java.sun.com and installed it to /opt [05:32] <_javier_> mmmm, there is no webmin in kubuntu ? [05:33] _javier_: might be in universal [05:33] Brazmetal, i use a router as my gateway if thats what you mean, and im using the routers feature to assign a static ip to my NIC via DHCP [05:33] siimo: thats not what he is trying to do [05:33] Brazmetal, though i can do it without DHCP too [05:33] <_javier_> sorry i speak spanish [05:33] i know what he is trying to do i was only saying that i dont use it anymore [05:33] siimo, can you test? [05:33] _javier_: really? i can read spanish?! [05:33] <_javier_> i am trying to write english [05:33] :D [05:34] <_javier_> cool [05:34] glass-eye: Ah, I see. Actually, that was going to be my "last resort." I'd like to try to do it in a more debian-way [05:34] Brazmetal, ill test in a few mins if you dont mind i am downloading something [05:34] texel: then i can't help you :) [05:34] <_javier_> acabo de instalar el kubuntu y me parece muy bueno, creo que me estoy enemorando nuevamente.... [05:34] siimo, ok, feel free :) === andrewski [~andrewski@pool-151-197-228-28.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === tim_h [~Tim@p54A1C5F3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:35] glass-eye: thanks anyway ;) [05:35] :D [05:36] <_javier_> lo que estoy intentando hacer ahora con mi maquinita es ponerla funcionando como antes: firewall, httpd, sshserver, hugs, ghc, java, etc... === texel [~texel@osiris.icrt.cu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:37] <_javier_> ahora estoy decargando un monton de cosas con kynaptic ya que me instale kubuntu desde un CD, este no tenia todo lo que necesito usar pero me parece muy bueno esto de descargar de internet === clayasaurus [~clayasaur@pool-151-197-121-250.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:40] Brazmetal, ping [05:40] <_javier_> [05:40] Brazmetal, im connected via static ip now, working fine here [05:41] siimo, how did you set it? [05:41] siimo, via Kcontrol? [05:41] Brazmetal, did you remember to set the correct IP for your gateway ? [05:42] Brazmetal, im doing exactly same as this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=7b4ffe5e17f5bd0d22a2122d310809fa&p=129347&postcount=4 [05:42] opps i mean http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129347&postcount=4 [05:43] siimo, yes I did this... [05:43] are you sure your gateway is correct? [05:44] man [05:44] yes ehehehe [05:44] I always used the same address... [05:44] 192.168.254.254 [05:44] i dont know whats wrong then === _javier_ is now known as ItsCoolToBeTheRo [05:45] it is the adress i use to acess the configuration page of the modem [05:45] siimo, and i can access it both modes... === TechLord [~jason@c68.115.87.182.roc.mn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:45] Brazmetal, so you can access the router in both modes but cannot access internet? [05:46] siimo, yes... internet just in dhcp... [05:46] Brazmetal, thats exactly what i happened to me when i didnt have my gateway correct [05:46] ehehe it's impossible not to be correct === tim_h_ [~Tim@p54A1BBF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:47] if it is incorrect, could I access the configuration pages? [05:47] what happens when you ping servers === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:47] Brazmetal, you could if you got it wrong in your config file but type it correct in browser window [05:48] thats exactly what happened to me [05:48] so i went back and fixed it [05:48] wow, i like putty under linux [05:49] sii: no choice... I have it memorized for yeras ehehhee [05:49] Brazmetal: you could just double check...for good times sake === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-135.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu [05:50] ehehehehehe [05:50]