[12:10] <herve> re
[12:10] <herve> is someone running breezy?
[12:11] <SuperQ> does breezy exist yet?
[12:12] <herve> sure
[12:12] <herve> dangerous for you mind and machine, though :-)
[12:13] <moyogo> running breezy here
[12:13] <moyogo> so far so good
[12:14] <herve> moyogo, what version of dia do you have?
[12:15] <moyogo> 0.94
[12:15] <herve> moyogo, debian revision? :-)
[12:16] <moyogo> 0.94.0-5ubuntu1 to be exact
[12:16] <SuperQ> wooweee.. Debian released woody r5
[12:16] <herve> thanks
[12:16] <SuperQ> haha
[12:16] <herve> damn...
[01:14] <herve> is there some debian repository wizard still awake?
[01:16] <crimsun> what's up?
[01:17] <herve> for pointing up what I missed in the repo I've set up
[01:17] <herve> s/up/out :-)
[01:18] <crimsun> k, what doesn't work?
[01:19] <crimsun> (sorry, had to dig for your repo)
[01:19] <herve> you should have asked :-)
[01:19] <herve> because it's http://deb.oursours.net/dists/
[01:19] <herve> with some config/script one level up
[01:20] <crimsun> yeah, I just went to MOTUNewPackages instead :)
[01:20] <herve> I added it to my sources.list
[01:20] <herve> but none of these packages come out
[01:20] <crimsun> ah, which tool did you use?
[01:21] <herve> apt-ftparchive
[01:22] <herve> ideally, I wanted a pool directory alongside, but found no howto
[01:22] <crimsun> hmm, aside from http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.html ?
[01:23] <herve> erm... I remember I read it, but either did not worked or was useful
[01:24] <crimsun> deb http://deb.oursours.net/dists breezy universe
[01:24] <crimsun> or s/breezy/hoary/
[01:25] <herve> I use the former
[01:28] <crimsun> there are some scattered scripts, lemme see
[01:28] <herve> gniiiiii... now I get 404 with the unstable dist
[01:30] <crimsun> checked the debian wiki?
[01:31] <herve> good point
[01:31] <crimsun> http://wiki.debian.net/?AptMove seems helpful
[01:32] <herve> you sure?
[01:33] <crimsun> (well, you're not generating a mirror, so that's irrelevant, sorry)
[01:36] <herve> I'm browsing the wiki pages about repos
[01:40] <crimsun> odd, your files in dist/breezy/binary-all belong in pool
[01:41] <herve> how can you say so?
[01:41] <crimsun> just as your dist/breezy/source belong in pool. Rather, they belong in pool/{main,universe}
[01:41] <crimsun> if you use that layout, pool/main or pool/universe would house the debs,diff.gz,dsc.,orig.tar.gz
[01:42] <crimsun> your Packages,Release and so on go in dist/breezy[*/*] 
[01:43] <herve> the repo should not be so structured?
[01:43] <crimsun> try this: http://small.dropbear.id.au/docs/aptarchive.html
[01:44] <herve> I used http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr/?page=debrepository
[01:45] <crimsun> ah, let's see
[01:55] <herve> I'm looking at the apache logs
[01:55] <herve> nothing to ntoe
[01:55] <herve> note
[01:55] <herve> whoops
[01:55] <herve> you're getting 404
[01:56] <herve> please remove dists from your deb line :-)
[01:57] <herve> hmmmm
[01:57] <herve> I got 404 too
[01:58] <crimsun> herve: ping mdz, he should know
[02:00] <herve> fun... I get 304 and 404 but apt won't complain
[02:00] <herve> no 304 is fine
[02:02] <crimsun> gah, need to run out, be back.
[02:03] <herve> crimsun, thanks
[02:05] <herve> I think I found it
[02:06] <herve> yes it is
[02:06] <herve> I need to move to a pool structure
[03:40] <herve> night all
[03:54] <crimsun> ah, so I was on the right track after all
[10:31] <GheRivero> res
[12:51] <herve> hi
[12:52] <tseng> hi.
[02:06] <herve> \sh, ping
[02:12] <T-Bone> hi
[02:14] <T-Bone> quick question: there's a bug in one of my packages (which is in hoary universe). what's to be done with it?
[02:16] <\sh> herve: pong
[02:16] <Burgundavia> T-Bone, what sort of bug and how bad?
[02:16] <Burgundavia> and which package?
[02:16] <herve> \sh, you reported a bug on psi, but both versions or the later is fine?
[02:16] <T-Bone> a 'normal' bug. prevent the use of the package in some circumstances
[02:17] <T-Bone> Burgundavia: libapache-mod-musicindex
[02:17] <\sh> both versions are behaving the same
[02:17] <\sh> on hoary and breezy
[02:17] <\sh> and also the original source
[02:17] <herve> haggai, it's upstream
[02:17] <Burgundavia> T-Bone, what does that thing do? and is there an upstream fix?
[02:17] <herve> s/haggai/ha
[02:17] <\sh> herve: but not on gentoo e.g.
[02:18] <\sh> so it can be that gnupg has a wrong default or whatever
[02:18] <T-Bone> Burgundavia: i'm currently fixing the code (i'm the upstream author), and preparing an upload for Debian, thought I could do something for ubuntu as well (i'm an Ubuntu maintainer), yet i'm not aware of the policy WRT universe stuff
[02:18] <\sh> and even with a running gnupg-agent is not working ;)
[02:18] <Burgundavia> T-Bone, generally frozen. Please with a motu.
[02:18] <T-Bone> Burgundavia: as to what it does, 'apt-cache show libapache-mod-musicindex' will tell you :}
[02:19] <T-Bone> Burgundavia: "please with a motu"?
[02:19] <Burgundavia> T-Bone, looks nifty, plead with a motu
[02:20] <herve> \sh, is it an experimental or regural feature wrt upstream?
[02:20] <T-Bone> Burgundavia: plead? I can upload, i just wanted to know if that was possible and how/where...
[02:20] <Burgundavia> T-Bone, universe is frozen, so you need somebody higher up to approve it
[02:20] <\sh> herve: regular
[02:20] <herve> T-Bone, if it's not critical or security-related, no chance for hoary
[02:20] <T-Bone> ok
[02:20] <T-Bone> well then, nevermind
[02:21] <\sh> herve: btw...I'm trying to package neverwinternights from bioware...commercial stuff is in restricted, right?
[02:22] <herve> is it redistribuable anyway? :-)
[02:22] <\sh> herve: suire
[02:22] <\sh> sure...the key is the secret to play it ;)
[02:22] <herve> all data stuff and the like?
[02:22] <\sh> and the key is on the manual ;)
[02:22] <\sh> herve: yepp
[02:23] <herve> strange...
[02:23] <herve> but anyway
[02:23] <herve> I don't think so
[02:23] <herve> I don't see the point of having it in ubuntu when you have to buy the game
[02:23] <\sh> herve: it's the native client for the game
[02:23] <herve> either buy it and you have a CD, or download it from bioware
[02:23] <\sh> and it's free (like in free beer)
[02:24] <Burgundavia> http://nwn.bioware.com/downloads/linuxclient.html
[02:25] <herve> I wouldn't approve it, anyway
[02:26] <\sh> herve: i will package it first
[02:26] <\sh> right now I'm working on klibido
[02:26] <herve> sounds interesting :-)
[02:27] <\sh> hehe
[02:27] <\sh> a usenet binary downloader for kde
[02:27] <\sh> so, you get your pr0n at your fingertips ;)
[02:36] <\sh> hmm...for kde applications with documentation, do I need a manpage?
[02:37] <herve> the debian policy say its lack is a bug
[02:37] <herve> I can't really tell for ubuntu
[02:37] <\sh> hmm..overwriting linitian checks ;)
[02:43] <\sh> herve: u r not down under?
[02:43] <herve> ??
[02:43] <\sh> not in australia :) (down under)
[02:44] <herve> haaa
[02:44] <herve> nope
[02:47] <\sh> herve: why not? hunting kangas for dinner should be fun ;)
[02:47] <herve> leave those poor animals alone :-)
[02:48] <herve> no, I'm broke
[02:48] <ajmitch> mmm, kangaroo steaks ;)
[02:48] <herve> and I have a regular job
[02:48] <herve> so I get paid and not being broke anymore :-)
[02:50] <\sh> kangas are tasting nice as steak and of course crocos as well, as a chicken replacement
[02:50] <\sh> herve: I see :)
[02:50] <herve> that's quite a big chicken ;-)
[02:51] <\sh> herve: i tasted it when I was working at bertelsmann/lycos
[02:51] <\sh> no one had the guts at this time to taste it :)
[02:52] <herve> if it's dead, I don't see the problem :-)
[02:52] <\sh> I think they were frightend to taste their neighbour diver ;)
[02:53] <herve> :-)
[02:54] <\sh> I have to think over my gentoo feelings
[02:55] <\sh> what they did yesterday and today, it's not my sort of believe in OSS
[02:55] <herve> what is it?
[02:56] <\sh> well, there was one project, called gentoo-stats.org. the maintainer wanted to release it as official gentoo.org project, but he had to be developer for this. but he never got his developer status, cause he fought with some devs and users.
[02:56] <herve> haggai, the developers ego :-)
[02:57] <\sh> so they took him the chance to have it as official project. he released it as an sideproject, and after a couple of months he tried it again
[02:57] <\sh> and again, they denied him this status, cause of his problems to talk and work with other people
[02:57] <\sh> now he closed down this project and was crying about the bad dev guys of gentoo
[02:57] <\sh> on his old page.
[02:58] <\sh> finally, he pointed out a link on bugs.g.o to his recruitement application
[02:58] <\sh> but gentoo staff secured it from the public, even gentoo-devs couldn't see the bug :)
[02:59] <\sh> I wrote something about it, one former developer released my article on his blog, and 5 minutes later, the bug opened again ;)
[02:59] <herve> this does not smell good
[02:59] <ozamosi> That sounds like... Mozilla...
[02:59] <\sh> but this behaviour doesn't fit in my believe of freedom
[03:00] <\sh> if its a non-disclosure bug because of an exploit or something, ok, but to reveal the story behind all this miss with this guy..
[03:00] <\sh> http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/8-UPDATE-Gentoo-Staff-censored-bug-entry-on-bugs.gentoo.org.html
[03:01] <\sh> i mean, this guy of gentoo-stats.org he is really a nutcase, but everybody should make up their mind by themselves, so the true story must be open for the public
[04:43] <\sh> herve: ping
[05:11] <herve> \sh, ouch! not that strong please :-)
[05:13] <\sh> herve: :)
[05:13] <\sh> herve: check the psi bug on malone..I figured out more
[05:15] <herve> in the meantime
[05:15] <herve> can you get a safe firefox and check if http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22367 makes it crash at yours too
[05:15] <\sh> and debsign has problems with the use of the gpg agent ;)
[05:17] <\sh> which firefox is safe? ,-)
[05:18] <herve> not mine, for sure ;-)
[05:18] <\sh> 1.0.3?
[05:18] <\sh> this is about fonts ;)
[05:18] <herve> 1.0.2
[05:19] <\sh> and firefox should crash with this font?
[05:20] <\sh> or the page itself? it's running fine with firefox on the kubuntu-desktop
[05:20] <herve> mine crashes before the page is finished loaded
[05:21] <\sh> no..it's fine
[05:26] <herve> \sh, can you check http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=299923 please
[05:28] <\sh> hmmm...
[05:28] <\sh> looks the same but different ;)
[05:29] <\sh> he has problems, cause he hasn't run gpg-agent at all i think
[05:30] <herve> it's waiting for a non-existent process?
[05:30] <\sh> yeah
[05:30] <\sh> it tries to get the gpg-agent askpassphrase process
[05:30] <\sh> but it's not there
[05:31] <\sh> even if you run it by hand
[05:31] <\sh> you have to enable it inside the Xsession.options
[05:31] <\sh> (if you installed gnupg-agent, u will have inside /etc/X11/Xsession.d/61pgp-agent
[05:31] <\sh> script...
[05:32] <\sh> enable the agent via Xsession.options (use-session-pgp-agent)
[05:32] <herve> strange...
[05:32] <\sh> and everything is nice
[05:32] <herve> I just install it and the agent is already running
[05:32] <\sh> or start psi with --no-gpg-agent
[05:34] <\sh> i will write a comment to this bug
[05:41] <herve> hmm... my upload seems to have silently disappeared
[05:41] <herve> I guess my key isn't white-listed yet
[05:45] <\sh> i don't understand debians bug tracker
[05:46] <\sh> i send an email to 299923@bugs.debian.org and it should be an additional comment...
[05:50] <herve> I don't know, I always user reportbug for that
[05:50] <\sh> comments to a bug?
[05:50] <herve> but your message arrived
[05:51] <herve> the webpage is updated
[05:51] <herve> yes, comments
[05:51] <herve> "additional info"
[05:51] <herve> someone using gaim?
[05:52] <\sh> ah
[05:52] <\sh> gaim doesn't have gpg support for jabber ;)
[05:53] <herve> it's about aspell support :-)
[05:53] <herve> hmm... there's a dozen of "no .desktop" bugs in malone, should be easy to fix
[05:57] <\sh> hmm...what do i have to do, if I'm fixing a bug? send it via malone to u?
[05:58] <herve> if you're working on it
[05:58] <herve> accepting it is a first step I would say
[05:59] <\sh> I'm not a motu ;)
[05:59] <herve> yeah, so?
[05:59] <herve> it's all about volunteership
[06:00] <herve> you'll easily become a member
[06:00] <herve> then I'll check your patches and upload for you
[06:00] <\sh> so i put the fixed package somewhere on the web and u will check it
[06:01] <herve> yes, I'm often here
[06:01] <herve> you were'nt there before the hoary release?
[06:01] <\sh> no
[06:01] <\sh> ogra forced me to test ubuntu just before the hoary release
[06:01] <herve> :-)
[06:02] <\sh> ok...fixes only for breezy?
[06:03] <herve> yeo
[06:03] <herve> yep
[06:09] <\sh> ok..
[06:09] <\sh> i will take some
[06:09] <herve> there-s something I really don't like about malone ergonomy...
[06:12] <\sh> zope?
[06:13] <\sh> cl s
[06:13] <\sh> console-data on breezy is broken
[06:13] <herve> what about zope?
[06:13] <herve> how is it b0rken? :-)
[06:13] <\sh> not configurable during installation via apt
[06:14] <\sh> NONE
[06:14] <\sh> Usage: install-keymap [ keymap_file | NONE | KERNEL ] 
[06:14] <\sh> dpkg: error processing console-data (--configure):
[06:14] <\sh>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[06:14] <\sh> Errors were encountered while processing:
[06:14] <\sh>  console-data
[06:14] <herve> on a fresh system?
[06:15] <\sh> chroot yeah
[06:15] <\sh> since 2 days now
[06:15] <herve> haa... a chroot bug :-)
[06:15] <herve> well,
[06:15] <herve> I can't create a pbuilder for 2 days too :-)
[06:16] <\sh> hmmm
[06:16] <\sh> i wanted to create one now, inside the chroot ;)
[06:16] <herve> don't you have better games to play ;-)
[06:17] <\sh> well..i wanted to work on hoary...so i don't want to update
[06:18] <herve> hmm...
[06:18] <herve> Riddell, ping
[06:18] <\sh> i don't have a second workstation here ;)
[06:19] <herve> \sh, that's my problem too
[06:19] <herve> well, it will be with arch packages
[06:19] <herve> I still can assume python packages behave the same in hoary and breezy
[06:24] <\sh> lets try pbuilder enviroment
[06:29] <\sh> hehe
[06:29] <\sh> building klibido and pbuilder create in chroot breezy ;)
[06:30] <\sh> my laptop will die again
[06:30] <Amaranth> hey, has anyone here ever manually modified a debian package?
[06:30] <Amaranth> i just need to edit a control file, i don't have any way of rebuilding the package from any kind of source
[06:31] <\sh> Amaranth: error?
[06:31] <Amaranth> dpkg-deb: `freevo_1.5.3-freevo1_all.deb' is not a debian format archive
[06:31] <Amaranth> debian packages are the same thing as a .tar.gz file, right?
[06:31] <\sh> no
[06:31] <Amaranth> or do they use different compression?
[06:32] <Amaranth> what compression is used then?
[06:32] <herve> the top-level archive is in ar format
[06:32] <herve> try the command "file" on that file to be sure
[06:32] <Amaranth> ar?
[06:33] <\sh> lol
[06:33] <\sh> no pbuilder
[06:34] <Amaranth> how do i create an ar file?
[06:35] <herve> with the "ar" command :-)
[06:35] <\sh> it's ar
[06:35] <\sh> debian-binary control.tar.gz data.tar.gz
[06:36] <Amaranth> yeah, i know how to work with the contents of it
[06:37] <\sh> why don't u get the source? tried?
[06:37] <Amaranth> just needed "ar r package.ext file1 file2 file2"
[06:38] <Amaranth> ok, that doesn't work either
[06:39] <Amaranth> well, i could probably get the source but it only works with python 2.3 and i don't want to change around symlinks and such to make it work
[06:40] <\sh> no sight of a python2.4 update for this package?
[06:40] <Amaranth> they say it has issues
[06:40] <\sh> ok...and if pbuilder is not working for breezy...then I have to build this stuff via debuild
[06:40] <Amaranth> pbuilder works good here
[06:41] <Amaranth> oh, you mean to make breezy packages?
[06:41] <\sh> yeppp
[06:41] <\sh> hoary is not a problem ;)
[06:42] <\sh> my body needs some coffeine right now...
[06:42] <Amaranth> yeah, i've been making hoary packages from breezy :)
[06:42] <\sh> i don't like this lintian
[06:42] <\sh> because it's wrong
[06:42] <\sh> W: klibido: desktop-file-in-wrong-dir usr/share/applnk/Internet/klibido.desktop
[06:42] <\sh> i have a .desktop file in usr/share/applications/kde/
[06:43] <Amaranth> how is it wrong?
[06:43] <\sh> and I need one in applnk/Internet
[06:43] <\sh> the same applies to kwin-styles and kwin-decorations
[06:43] <Amaranth> why do you need legacy support?
[06:44] <\sh> the .desktop file for a decoration is in /usr/share/apps/kwin/
[06:44] <\sh> and lintian cries
[06:44] <Amaranth> ah
[06:44] <\sh> because the check is wrong
[06:45] <Amaranth> hey, i don't suppose you know how to work with .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/kde from a user's applications.menu
, <Exclude><Filename>kde/foo.desktop</Filename></Exclude>, <Exclude><Filename>/kde/foo.desktop</Filename></Exclude>, and <Exclude><Filename>/usr/share/applications/foo.desktop</Filename></Exclude> don't exclude it
[06:47] <\sh> Amaranth: if you look inside this directory, there r the normal .desktop files from kde
[06:47] <\sh> you will find the same .desktop files in /usr/share/applnk/<menu>/
[06:49] <Amaranth> I know.
[06:49] <\sh> but the problem is only the lintian check
[06:50] <\sh> because it looks only for usr/share/applications/*
[06:50] <\sh> and is not deciding if this is kdes kwin decoration .desktop file for kwin or whatever
[06:50] <\sh> ok...etherreal doesn't compile
[06:54] <\sh> another try
[06:56] <\sh> grmpf
[06:56] <\sh> packet-cmip.c:1899: error: static declaration of 'dissect_cmip_InvokeIDType' follows non-static declaration
[06:56] <\sh> packet-cmip.h:40: error: previous declaration of 'dissect_cmip_InvokeIDType' was here
[06:57] <herve> haaa... those cryptic error messages I hate :-)
[06:58] <\sh> no this is totally clear
[06:58] <\sh> in the header: int dissect...
[06:58] <\sh> in the c file: static int
[06:58] <\sh> now its dpatch time
[06:59] <herve> you're compiling for hoary or breezy?
[06:59] <\sh> breezy
[07:00] <\sh> is there any website where I can see the compile state of some packages?
[07:00] <herve> haaa... that may be what they say, gcc 4.0 is less fault-tolerant
[07:00] <herve> \sh,
[07:00] <herve> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/
[07:01] <\sh> yeah
[07:01] <\sh> have to fix this
[07:02] <\sh> etherreal 0.10.10 never build on breezy ;)
[07:03] <\sh> ethereal_0.10.10-1ubuntu1_20050330-1536-i386-successful
[07:03] <\sh> that was for hoary
[07:03] <herve> if you could fix dia 0.94.0-7, I'll pay you a beer :-)
[07:04] <\sh> hehe later :)
[07:08] <\sh> ok.patching done...edit rules file
[07:08] <\sh> and brewing coffee
[07:20] <\sh> hmm...until now...the patch looks good
[07:25] <herve> so far so good :-)
[07:25] <\sh> hmm...for breezy a <version>-<rev>ubuntu2
[07:26] <\sh> herve: compiled
[07:27] <\sh> ethereal (0.10.10-2ubuntu1) breezy; urgency=high
[07:27] <\sh> or ubuntu2?
[07:27] <herve> why urgency high?
[07:28] <Amaranth> it FTBFS
[07:28] <schweeb> if it was .10.10-2 before, it becomes .10.10-2ubuntu1
[07:28] <schweeb> never urgency high.
[07:28] <herve> \sh, ubuntu2
[07:28] <\sh> it was 0.10.10-1ubuntu1
[07:28] <schweeb> then ubuntu2
[07:28] <herve> you just increment
[07:29] <\sh> so it will become now 0.10.10-2ubuntu2 or -1ubuntu2
[07:29] <herve> -1ubuntu2
[07:29] <Amaranth> when is high used?
[07:29] <schweeb> \sh: only increment the ubuntu revision
[07:29] <\sh> schweeb: ok thx :)
[07:29] <herve> Amaranth, for security issues, and yet, I'm not sure for ubuntu
[07:29] <crimsun> high is never used for ubuntu
[07:29] <\sh> oh yeah ;) change high ot low ;)
[07:30] <crimsun> remember that our installs run every half hour
[07:30] <crimsun> :03 and :33
[07:30] <crimsun> not just once every 24 hours
[07:30] <schweeb> \sh: that way we can more easily track the debian changes... and they can track our changes
[07:30] <herve> and no 7-day pending
[07:31] <Amaranth> what does high do in debian?
[07:31] <Amaranth> kill 7-day pending?
[07:31] <schweeb> gives it priority in the buildd, I think
[07:31] <herve> reduce it, but I don't remember how much
[07:31] <herve> and don't want to check the policy :-)
[07:31] <crimsun> high means that it will under testing within 2 days if it builds
[07:31] <crimsun> s/under/enter/
[07:32] <Amaranth> wow, they wait 2 days for extremely important security issues?
[07:32] <herve> 2 days, thanks crimsun :-)
[07:32] <crimsun> Amaranth: the only supported distro is 'stable'
[07:32] <crimsun> there's no wait there.
[07:33] <herve> Amaranth, they give a chance for early adopters testing it before fscking up testing
[07:33] <schweeb> other than the wait for a new stable ;)
[07:33] <\sh> ok...another build and then where to put..this is the question
[07:33] <Amaranth> schweeb: I'd rather get something new before I die, thanks. :)
[07:41] <\sh> herve: are u taking care to upload this package?
[07:41] <\sh> or any other motu ?
[07:42] <herve> I cant upload yet
[07:42] <herve> (can't)
[07:42] <herve> but I can review your patch :-p
[07:43] <crimsun> url?
[07:43] <crimsun> I can review and upload
[07:43] <\sh> moment...it compiles ;)
[07:43] <\sh> u want to have a apt repos or straight download?
[07:43] <crimsun> \sh: .dsc, .diff.gz, and .orig.tar.gz
[07:46] <\sh> takes some time...448 kbit/s upstream is not much ;)
[07:47] <\sh> but if it's ready...http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/
[07:47] <crimsun> 448 kb up kills mine ;)
[07:47] <\sh> I'm waiting for orig.tar.gz ;) 7mb ;)
[07:48] <crimsun> or you could give me the upstream url and I'll just rename it
[07:48] <crimsun> :)
[07:48] <\sh> lol
[07:48] <\sh> now u can wait ;) or do a sudo apt-get source ethereal ;)
[07:48] <crimsun> ;)
[07:48] <\sh> 44%
[07:48] <\sh> we're not in a hurry
[07:48] <crimsun> :)
[07:49] <\sh> i'm getting hungry
[07:50] <\sh> 86%
[07:51] <\sh> done
[07:51] <\sh> 100% it's yours
[07:51] <crimsun> thanks.
[07:54] <crimsun> (I'm pulling orig from archive.u.c, no need to kill your upstream)
[07:54] <\sh> too late
[07:54] <\sh> its all on my rootie :)
[07:54] <crimsun> np
[07:54] <crimsun> ok, I'll update one of your b-d to automake1.7
[07:55] <crimsun> automake1.4 is oldish
[07:55] <\sh> well...I can change it if you want here ;)
[07:56] <crimsun> sure, just regen the .dsc and .diff :)
[07:56] <\sh> hmm
[07:56] <herve> dpkg-buildpackage -S
[07:56] <\sh> in the control file only automake and autotools are mentioned...no version behind
[07:57] <\sh> or should i supply a version
[07:58] <\sh> etherreal-dev is automake1.7
[08:00] <crimsun> (yes, s/automake/automake1.7/ for ethereal's b-d)
[08:00] <crimsun> since automake will choose 1.4 on certain arches
[08:01] <\sh> ok..understand...(where is the docu for that ;)))
[08:02] <\sh> ok...diff + dsc is uploading ... done
[08:06] <crimsun> k
[08:07] <\sh> hope its ok for the buildd
[08:08] <crimsun> (I'm just rebuilding)
[08:08] <crimsun> I expect it is ok.
[08:09] <\sh> if u need my gpg key, it's on the keyserver
[08:10] <crimsun> nah, I just sign it and upload it
[08:10] <\sh> ok
[08:11] <crimsun> I'll let you know when I've done it
[08:12] <\sh> sure..than i can close the bug on malone
[08:13] <crimsun> oh, when you close the bug, make sure you include the portion from .source_changes
[08:13] <crimsun> I don't know if that has been hooked into malone yet
[08:13] <\sh> ok
[08:17] <crimsun> uploaded.
[08:17] <crimsun> you should get the ACCEPT email in 3 minutes.
[08:17] <\sh> on the buildd?
[08:18] <crimsun> to the upload site, yes.
[08:19] <crimsun> (we don't upload directly to buildds; we upload source diffs to the holding area :)
[08:20] <\sh> and the build daemons are taking those diffs?
[08:21] <crimsun> yes, one of the 3 buildds for each arch will grab it (the cron job runs every 5 minutes) and begin building
[08:21] <crimsun> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/breezy-changes/2005-April/002955.html
[08:21] <crimsun> there's yours.
[08:22] <crimsun> since it doesn't take too long to build, I suspect at :33 the binaries will be moved to pool, too
[08:22] <\sh> thx :) so i can close the bug
[08:22] <crimsun> np, yep
[08:24] <\sh> finally :)
[08:24] <crimsun> :)
[08:24] <\sh> and for me it was a premiere :)
[08:26] <herve> \sh, you can mark the bug as "PendingUpload"
[08:28] <\sh> hehe.sure..if i can find it ;) i closed it already
[08:29] <\sh> bugs assigned to shermann == 0
[08:31] <herve> hmm... your upload could still fail
[08:31] <herve> you only tested one arch
[08:32] <\sh> ok :) changed :)
[08:32] <\sh> this is a problem with malone
[08:32] <\sh> resolved bugs u won't find anymore without the bug if
[08:32] <\sh> -f+d
[08:34] <herve> "accepted"
[08:34] <herve> :-)
[08:34] <herve> now let's watch the builds...
[08:35] <\sh> where can I see the status of the builds?
[08:35] <herve> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/today.html
[08:35] <\sh> on lamont?
[08:36] <\sh> ok :)
[08:36] <\sh> when are the build cycles?
[08:38] <herve> crimsun told you
[08:38] <\sh> 3 33
[08:39] <\sh> oh every 5 mins
[08:40] <herve> :-)
[08:40] <\sh> my brain needs food ;)
[08:58] <herve> \sh, ethereal successful :-)
[08:58] <\sh> *wow*
[08:58] <\sh> on all 3
[08:59] <crimsun> nice work. :)
[09:00] <\sh> thx guys :) now it's time for a pizza and a beer
[09:00] <\sh> thx to you, crimsun, as well for your help
[09:00] <crimsun> np
[09:01] <\sh> so i can close it now on malone
[09:01] <crimsun> yep
[09:04] <\sh> done :)
[09:09] <\sh> ok...next one :)
[09:15] <herve> dia!
[09:15] <herve> :-)
[09:17] <\sh> yeah, dia is next ;)
[09:18] <herve> yoohoo!
[09:18] <herve> :-)
[09:20] <herve> yeah... zope produces the same weird output with gcc 4.0...
[09:23] <\sh> let me finish eat first :)
[09:23] <herve> ho no, I was just chatting
[09:28] <herve> hooooo... nice output when building python 2.3 too!
[09:43] <\sh> hmmm...
[09:45] <\sh> dpkg -i --force ?
[09:47] <\sh> ok..done
[09:47] <\sh> can someone review tagtool? http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/tagtool/ (malone bug 411)
[09:49] <\sh> herve: and what about dia...whats the problem...gcc4 issues?
[09:54] <herve> \sh, guess so, the build complains about endianness
[09:55] <\sh> on i386?
[09:55] <herve> yes
[09:56] <\sh> shape_info.c: In function 'shape_info_get':
[09:56] <\sh> shape_info.c:64: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'xmlGetProp' differ in signedness
[09:56] <\sh> shape_info.c:64: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness
[09:56] <\sh> shape_info.c: At top level:
[09:56] <\sh> shape_info.c:121: error: static declaration of 'parse_path' follows non-static declaration
[09:56] <\sh> shape_info.h:169: error: previous declaration of 'parse_path' was here
[09:57] <herve> signedness... maybe not endianness then :-)
[09:57] <\sh> i try to patch
[09:58] <herve> I'm looking at your patch
[09:59] <herve> and I'd like you to optimize the rules file :-)
[09:59] <\sh> that means? the dpatch stuff is needed ;) but i can transform it to cdbs
[09:59] <Amaranth> I've seen lots of signedness warnings, must be because gcc4 is stricter.
[09:59] <Amaranth> The static thing has to be the same thing.
[10:00] <herve> \sh, simpler than that
[10:00] <herve> don't rewrite the patch and unpatch rules
[10:00] <herve> you already include them
[10:00] <\sh> hmpf..k
[10:00] <herve> but you don't seem to unpatch on clean
[10:01] <\sh> w8 i fix
[10:01] <herve> and I think you need to add them in the .PHONY rules at the end
[10:01] <\sh> I'll fix it
[10:01] <herve> green light for me afterwards
[10:03] <herve> Amaranth, yes it is
[10:04] <Amaranth> luckily, changes those won't break gcc3 so they should get accepted
[10:04] <Amaranth> s/changes/changing/
[10:04] <herve> yes, it's just hygiene :-)
[10:05] <\sh> MLPUBFUN xmlChar * XMLCALL
[10:05] <\sh>                 xmlGetProp              (xmlNodePtr node,
[10:05] <\sh>                                          const xmlChar *name);
[10:05] <\sh> this is libxml2/libxml/tree.h
[10:07] <\sh> ok...the warning i can forget ;)
[10:07] <\sh> the error is much more interessting
[10:12] <\sh> the signed issues has to be done by upstream
[10:12] <\sh> it's too much for a patch I think..and only warnings
[10:12] <herve> dia?
[10:14] <\sh> jep
[10:14] <herve> well, thanks for looking at it
[10:14] <\sh> herve: i'm patching and applying
[10:14] <herve> I'll open a bug upstream
[10:14] <\sh> pydia-object.h:29: error: syntax error before 'DiaObject'
[10:15] <\sh> wait with this :)
[10:15] <\sh> there is more
[10:15] <\sh> I can send you the dpatches
[10:15] <herve> hey!
[10:15] <herve> even in French: h !
[10:15] <herve> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=173061
[10:16] <herve> I want to try it
[10:18] <herve> hi GheRivero
[10:18] <GheRivero> res
[10:19] <herve> GheRivero, could you please complete your malone bug report
[10:19] <herve> about nfs4 I guess
[10:21] <\sh> herve: please check tagtool :)
[10:23] <herve> ha yes, you updated it
[10:24] <herve> impeccable !
[10:24] <herve> I mean
[10:24] <herve> great!
[10:25] <herve> now you should find someone to upload it :-p
[10:26] <herve> ho
[10:26] <herve> hooo
[10:26] <herve> wait
[10:27] <\sh> herve: please check dia-xxx/plug-ins/python/pydia-objects.h:29
[10:27] <\sh> I'm not the python guru and C python integrator ;)
[10:27] <herve> I don't know CPython either :-)
[10:28] <GheRivero> herve, ok, i will update now, what else do you need?
[10:28] <\sh> ok..then lets forget about dia ;)
[10:28] <herve> GheRivero, just what package you were talking about :-)
[10:28] <herve> \sh, I'm trying the patch I've shown you
[10:29] <herve> \sh, hmm...
[10:29] <GheRivero> it's on the description :( I should be more explicit maybe
[10:29] <\sh> I see
[10:29] <herve> in your change, you unpatch before cleaning
[10:29] <herve> GheRivero, it makes an empty entry in the list of bugs
[10:29] <\sh> after...
[10:29] <\sh> shit
[10:30] <herve> :-p
[10:30] <herve> what I do:
[10:30] <herve> clean: clean-real unpatch
[10:30] <herve> clean-real:
[10:30] <herve>   # the regular clea
[10:31] <\sh> ok
[10:31] <\sh> just done ;)
[10:31] <\sh> herve: the patch could work (dia)
[10:31] <GheRivero> herve, i know, but since it's  apackage not included, i get an error filling the source or package fields
[10:32] <herve> \sh, I can but hope, I need that revision for my packages to enter ubuntu!
[10:32] <herve> GheRivero, ha ok. there is no special value instead?
[10:32] <\sh> ok...done
[10:32] <\sh> uploaded
[10:33] <\sh> tagtool
[10:33] <herve>  #include "object.h"
[10:33] <herve> +#include "lib/object.h"
[10:33] <\sh> herve: take the patch file and create a dpatch file out of it :)
[10:34] <herve> when you see that kind of fix
[10:34] <herve> you're thinking it's high time gcc is strict :-)
[10:34] <GheRivero> herve, done, i hope this way is more clear
[10:34] <herve> \sh, already done, compiling :-)
[10:35] <\sh> hehe....:)
[10:35] <\sh> ok...who wants to upload tagtool?
[10:35] <herve> GheRivero, what have you changed?
[10:35] <GheRivero> just added more info:
[10:35] <GheRivero> Package: nfsidmap
[10:35] <GheRivero> Sources at: http://www.citi.umich.edu/projects/nfsv4/linux/
[10:35] <GheRivero> Debian Package at:
[10:35] <GheRivero> http://packages.qa.debian.org/libn/libnfsidmap.html
[10:36] <GheRivero> is that ok now?
[10:37] <herve> GheRivero, in the title of your report, replace "It's not included[...] " with "nfsidmap is not included[...] "
[10:37] <herve> so we can get what package you are talking about in the bugs list
[10:38] <\sh> one more coffee or one more beer?
[10:38] <herve> no coffee for me at this time
[10:38] <\sh> beer than :)
[10:39] <GheRivero> i'm trying to figure how to change the title...
[10:39] <herve> s/than/then :-)
[10:39] <herve> you make the same error than ogra
[10:39] <herve> probably the German accent ;-)
[10:39] <\sh> herve: ogra worked in the same company ;)
[10:39] <GheRivero> now!
[10:39] <\sh> well, mixed english from russia, romania, america, scotland ;)
[10:40] <\sh> and mexico and india ;)
[10:40] <herve> GheRivero, leave it if you can't
[10:41] <herve> ha ok, I found the pencil too
[10:41] <GheRivero> herve, are you going to take care of it?
[10:41] <herve> GheRivero, I don't think I have enough power but will sure help
[10:43] <\sh> crimsun: ping :)
[10:43] <GheRivero> anyone knows if every package will be synced with sid soon?
[10:44] <herve> it has already begun
[10:44] <herve> but is problematic because of gcc 4.0 being stricter
[10:44] <crimsun> \sh: busy atm
[10:46] <\sh> crimsun: k
[10:52] <herve> \sh, you have a clue about signedness warnings?
[10:52] <\sh> herve: I checked libxml2/libxml
[10:52] <\sh> [22:05]  <\sh> MLPUBFUN xmlChar * XMLCALL
[10:52] <\sh> [22:05]  <\sh>        xmlGetProp       (xmlNodePtr node,
[10:52] <\sh> [22:05]  <\sh>                     const xmlChar *name);
[10:52] <\sh> [22:05]  <\sh> this is libxml2/libxml/tree.h
[10:52] <\sh> the problem is (imho) the const in front of the string...
[10:53] <\sh> or dia has to rewrite many calls to this function
[10:53] <\sh> but it's only a warning...not important right now ;)
[10:54] <herve> ok, noted
[10:54] <\sh> or try a (const xmlChar) "bla")
[10:54] <\sh> but this is not nice ;)
[10:56] <herve> I'd rather watch their BTS for new patches ;-)
[10:58] <herve> still compiling...
[10:58] <herve> many warnings, but nothing fatal
[10:59] <herve> compiled!
[11:03] <\sh> nice :)I
[11:04] <\sh> *grmpf* conglomerat has .desktop file with category:GNOME only ;)
[11:04] <\sh> no wonder
[11:05] <\sh> should we change it?
[11:05] <\sh> #346
[11:06] <herve> 346 you sure?
[11:07] <\sh> hu 347
[11:07] <\sh> also bug in malone
[11:07] <\sh> Malone Bug #346 (Does not contain a .desktop file) on ubuntu conglomerate
[11:07] <\sh> but https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/347/+edit
[11:09] <trulux> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory
[11:09] <trulux> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory
[11:09] <trulux> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory
[11:09] <trulux> GRRR
[11:10] <\sh> herve: i will fix this...the last one for today
[11:11] <herve> \sh, that would be pretty much even if you stopped now
[11:11] <herve> ho good... a fonts package which is a native debian package
[11:12] <herve> 6 megs to upload at each release...
[11:18] <herve> heya koke !
[11:18] <koke> hi!
[11:18] <\sh> I love standards
[11:18] <\sh> especially when they're not applied to every software
[11:19] <\sh> building conglomerate
[11:25] <\sh> herve: can u review? http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/conglomerate/
[11:25] <herve> not anymore
[11:26] <herve> my connexion is all used by an upload
[11:26] <herve> and I must go to bed afterwards
[11:27] <\sh> me too :)
[11:29] <\sh> ok.....tomorrow more ;)
[11:29] <herve> maybe I can upload tomorrow :-)
[11:30] <\sh> herve: we have time until the next release ;)
[11:31] <herve> there will be more surprises in 6 months ;-)
[11:31] <herve> well, good night!
[11:32] <\sh> hehe...yeah...have a good night too :)
[11:32] <\sh> I have to finish my beer :)