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dycebtw im logged in in terminal as root12:00
djm62dyce: do you kno?w what module it should be12:00
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dyceno12:00
dyceim clueless12:00
dycewait12:00
ompaulsudo apt-get install vrms12:00
dyceactually12:00
ompaulnow there is a challange12:00
nickrudRustyShackleford: try it again, but sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:00
punehey does anyone know why I can't get my hp printer/scanner to work with xsan?12:00
dycethis site12:00
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dycehttp://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Wireless.html12:00
ompaul2 non-free packages, 0.1% of 1912 installed packages12:00
dycethey had a list12:00
dyceof compatible cards12:01
dyceand it showed mine12:01
dskinnerhelp12:01
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flodinehow can i get better fps12:01
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waseemabcde didnt seem to wor12:01
waseemk12:01
rmilunwhat is init mode for ubuntu,to boot only in console mode,not to start X?12:01
dskinneranyone here that can help me12:02
waseemand sound-juicer doesnt convert into mp312:02
Quest-MasterInitMass: I am using Quanta at this second with Gnome ;)12:02
dskinnerI am a neewbie to linux12:02
dskinnerI just installed ubuntu12:02
cavediverrmilun: 312:02
stevenjQuest-Master, have you tried bluefish for gnome12:02
dycedjm62: for kubuntu there is kwifisetup12:02
RustyShacklefordWhere do I run it at.  It won't open in "run command"12:02
rmilunah,thanks cavediver12:02
waseemactually, how do i make it so that abcde converts tracks into mp3?12:02
Zugot|QuaD-: thanks for the link12:02
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dskinnerand have no clue how to get java working12:02
rmilundskinner,i just installed ubuntu too :)12:02
dycedjm62: for kubuntu there is kwifisetup, but for gnome what is there?12:02
InitMassQuest-Master, there is always bluefish12:02
Quest-Masterstevenj: Yes. I still prefer Quanta though, since remote saving works with it12:02
ompauldskinner, is that with a browser?12:03
dskinneryes12:03
stevenjQuest-Master, i see12:03
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|QuaD-Zugot: np12:03
ompauldskinner, have you downloaded the package?12:03
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nickrudRustyShackleford: open a konsole, and try typing the sudo etc line12:03
Quest-MasterI'd probably be using Kubuntu right now if it wasn't so buggy atm.12:03
dskinneryes12:03
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cavediver K12:04
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cavediverIs it possible to disable that recent document feature ?12:04
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dycethis sux12:04
ompauldskinner, have you run `sudo sh package_name` yet?12:04
dyceim going back to windows12:04
dskinneryes, it says permission denied12:04
cavediverdyce: why ?12:04
dskinnerI even logged in as root12:04
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ice_1963=)12:05
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ompauldskinner, what is the exact error?12:05
dskinnerpermission denied12:05
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ompauldskinner, what is the last part of the file name?12:05
waseemhow do i eject the cd?12:05
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stevenjwaseem, rightclick on cd and click eject?12:06
waseemthe cd isnt showing up on the desktop12:06
waseemor in the /media file12:06
dskinnerI downloaded it ended in a .bin12:06
dskinnerI extracted all of it into a tmp folder12:06
ompaulsudo sh *.bin then12:07
EnkiduI'm still have problems with sound on my laptop, will anyone assist me?12:07
dskinnerI then went to that folder and saw a configure file and an install file12:07
mika--waseem: sudo reject /dev/blala12:07
RustyShacklefordKate keeps crashing.  I tried opening up a root terminal, but when I enter my password, it just closes.12:07
nickrudok, lets use a different editor :) sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:08
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cavediverMan, where can one get a decent online poker that doesn't require stupid exe downloads and flash shit.12:08
rmilunwaseem,type eject in console12:08
rmilunor /umount /dev/cdrom something like that,then type eject12:08
rmilunif i remember correctly :)12:09
ice_1963hhhmmmmm12:09
rmilunumount without /12:09
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ompauldskinner, I can't remember12:09
ompauldskinner, I poked around my machine a bit12:09
dskinnerwow that worked12:10
dskinnerit ran alot of stuff.  How do I know it worked?12:10
RustyShacklefordO.K. i've got it entered.  How do I save now?12:11
ompauldskinner, you will need to look up google or the wiki on www.ubuntu.com12:11
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ompauldskinner, your next command is to do some ln -s * /some directories/mozilla or firebird12:11
dskinnerit finished with " done"12:11
Neomanbye for all12:11
ice_1963cavediver try apt-cache search poker12:12
ice_1963ok12:12
nickrudRustyShackelford: control x, it'll ask if you want to save, say yes12:12
dskinnerhow do I find out what to do next12:12
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IRCGuest0hi12:12
IRCGuest0is ubuntu hiring? :P12:12
IRCGuest0lol12:12
dskinnernow when I look in the directory I see a new folder12:13
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RustyShacklefordO.K.  done.  I'm fixing to restart.  Wish me luck.12:14
ompauldskinner http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15/view?searchterm=install%20java <-- that is another way to insure that it is done right12:14
nickrudLuck12:14
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RustyShacklefordThanks for the help by the way.12:14
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pvoceugh....I have the "/dev/lp0": Permission Denied error...ve checked permissions of the file and made sure lp, foomatic, and users had access...any ideas?12:16
gratuitdoes fat32 have issues with large files? (i.e. over 4 GIGS)12:17
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pvoceugh...wrong window:(12:18
Bazziyes12:18
AndyRgratuit, 2gb file limit iirc12:18
Bazzigratuit I think they should already have problems with >2GB12:18
gratuitok12:18
pvocenopers, heres the error "/dev/lp0": Permission denied12:18
gratuitwhat about reiserfs? does it have problems with large files?12:19
pvoceIve checked the permissions of the file and made sure proper groups had access to it12:19
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Marble2gratuit: the fat32 limit is actually 4gb12:20
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justinlbarnesIm back.  I still just have 640X48012:20
Sionideouch12:20
nickrudRusty, look at /etc/X11/Xorg.log, look for *Default mode, it'll tell you more about what X thinks your machine can do12:21
nickrudRusty, look at /var/log/Xorg.log, typing too fast, sorry12:22
markuman if i have compile something by myself with ./configure make make install and i want to uninstall it? how? with make uninstall it don't work12:22
Bazzimarkuman you got a problem then12:23
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markumanhm12:23
markumanlol12:23
markumannot myself, but a friend12:23
genbazzi hush12:23
nickrudmarkuman: checkinstall instead of make install next time :)12:23
Bazzigen? :o12:23
tbirdmarkuman, you need to try and find rpm or something thats compatable with alien12:23
RustyShacklefordNo such file or directory12:24
tbirdkewl ubuntu uses checkinstall12:24
nickrudSorry, /var/log/Xorg.0.log, sorry12:25
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RustyShacklefordO.K. what am I looking for?12:27
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fsapohi there :)12:28
diaouneboy am I having fun with ubuntu ;)12:28
fsapoanyone knows if is there any plugin for gedit to complete php code?12:28
fsapodiaoune, ubuntu rlz ;)12:28
genrlz?12:29
nickrudWhat you're looking for is the section where X reports the modes it can handle.12:29
diaouneany faqs about for installing realplyer plugin for firefox on PPC Ubuntu?12:29
nickrud they look like this: *Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz12:29
fsapogen, "rules"12:29
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cpphi12:30
fsapoanyone knows if there is an auto completion plugin for gedit? for php code...12:30
cppcan anyone help me with something real quick i just installed ubuntu today12:31
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jirwinhello12:31
cppis that a hello to me?12:31
jirwinI am having trouble installing hoary, as it hangs up at 25% configuring apt in the installation12:31
tbirdjirwin, just wait12:32
tbirdit takes a while12:32
fsapojirwin, i had this12:32
jirwinthanks.12:32
fsapojirwin, start with the no dhcp option12:32
fsapojirwin, it will skip this process12:32
cppanyone know how to install language packs?12:32
jirwincpp: synaptic12:32
markumansomeone use linEAK?12:33
cppya i dled them but how to swtich them?12:33
fsapojirwin, just press F1 or F2 (i dont remember the correct key) in the first boot screen12:33
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markumanhow to mute pcm and opposite of it with same command?12:33
zxccan you make stuff transparant in ubuntu?12:33
fsapojirwin, the look for the no dhcp option and start with this option ;)12:33
jirwinok let me try12:33
FR500markuman:  i think thats kde especific12:34
cppcan some1 help this noob?12:34
markumanlinEAK? there is a special GUI Config tool. but you can config it in a editor for other windowmanagers12:34
cavediverwhere do i set the icons for the different mime-types?12:35
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waseemhey how do i untar a file and run it?12:36
LycoNOk my g card should be getting over 150 fps on glxgears12:36
tbirdwaseem, man tar12:36
LycoNi have need drivers too12:36
GammaRaywaseem: tar xvzf <file>12:37
GammaRaywaseem: "running it".. depends12:37
nickrudcpp: dpkg-l language-pack* , pick one, sudo aptitude install language-pack-??12:37
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isaihi12:37
isaiwhat's the best way to get realmedia video/audio to work in firefox?12:38
usualit's so weird, totem-gstreamer/totem-xine/xine play dvd's sort of choppy, but gxine plays them just fine12:38
fsapowaseem, tar xvf file.tar12:38
nickrudcpp: make that last part apt-get install language-pack-??, aptitude does not play well with synaptic sometimes12:38
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cppis there a way to have mozilla like directly to irc when i click on a protocol irc://12:39
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synichey, I just installed hoary on a thinkpad t23.  When trying to boot, it halts after "Uncompressing the kernel... OK, booting the kernel"12:41
synicwhat could be wrong?12:42
LevanderMount command says a filesystem is mounted via smbfs from another machine on the same network.  The machine the filesystem used to exist on, no longer exists.  Any easy way to get my computer to realize that mount is just not there anymore?  Without rebooting hopefully?12:42
LevanderWhen I do a umount -f <device name> gives me a few error messages saying "device busy" basically.12:42
Sionidewww.sionide.net/ubuntu.mp312:43
synicanyone have any idea?12:43
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BukkakeUbuntu.mp3? Omg!12:43
LevanderWhat's ubuntu.mp3?12:44
pvocesionide: LOL12:44
Sionideit's funny...12:44
pvoceMy wife was giving me wierd looks12:44
Sionidedon't spread it around too much though, i don't have *that* much bandwidth12:44
Sionideheheh12:44
Sionideit's quality12:44
WWIsn't that awesome, indeed!12:45
Sionidemade by the guys who do www.lugradio.org - most of them are ubuntu users12:45
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dagsheh heh12:46
waseemwhat is the extension tag supposed to be for a make file?12:46
Sionidein fact, that's a clip from the lastest lugradio episode, i highly recommend it..12:46
pvocesionide: I was ready to break into a rendition of "Bare Necessities"12:46
Sionidelol!12:46
WWwaseem: None.  Typically just "Makefile"12:46
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Sionide...just in case people don't get it - it's a rip off of "Umbongo" which was a cartoned drink, here in the UK. I think they still make it!12:46
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Sionideand the tag line was "they drink it in the congo" and that was the theme tune from the advert12:47
Sionideabsolutely quality...12:47
jirwinwell no such luck for me...12:47
pvocesionide: OIC!  now it makes more sense12:47
Aperhi12:47
Sionideif you're into opensource and linux, which i assume you are! head over to lugradio.org and check out their shows. they're great12:47
mikecolo12:47
Sionide:P12:47
jirwinany other ideas why my hoary installation is hanging while configuring apt? it is the exact same spot12:48
pvoceI work in radio, so I guess I'll have to work on a US(Texan) eiditon12:48
ssamlug radio is good12:48
Sionideyeah it bloody is!12:48
ssamif you dont mind the swearing12:48
Aperwhat about this chabbel ?12:48
Sionidessam, lol - they're english. it's almost expected :P12:48
mikecohaha12:48
Sionidepvoce, glad to know it's still funny even if you don't know about umbongo :D12:48
ssami like their fedora vs ubuntu arguments12:49
jirwinfsapo, do you have any other ideas?12:49
pvocesionide: some things are just universal;)12:49
tsume_12:49
Sionidessam, yeah - always a good laugh12:49
ssamand how they call kubuntu 'ubuntuk'12:49
Sionidehaha12:49
segfaulthello.12:49
ObsidiansWhen I try to do "apt-get install build-essentials" it says "Need to get 0B/2562kB of archives." and then gets to "0% [Working] " and then doesn't do anything. I need to install that package, what do I do?12:50
jirwinhello12:50
WWObsidians: apt-get install build-essential12:50
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pvoceSionide: So ife they come out with one for people whop deal with explosive materials, would they call it "uBOOMtu"?12:50
ObsidiansWW:12:51
WWObsidians: not *-essentials12:51
jirwincan anyone help me figure out why the installer is hanging on the apt configuration12:51
Sionidehaha12:51
ObsidiansWW: Sorry, yes. That's what I did. No s.12:51
|QuaD-if i want to fix dpkg -l so thatonly installed packages are listed (ie clean it up, not just use grep) how would i do that?12:51
ObsidiansWhen I try to do "apt-get install build-essential" it says "Need to get 0B/2562kB of archives." and then gets to "0% [Working] " and then doesn't do anything. I need to install that package, what do I do?12:51
ObsidiansLike that.12:51
zxccan you get transparency of windows in ubuntu??12:51
TQuidDo I have the right impression that linksys is pretty good about linux?12:52
TQuidzxc, depends on what window manager you're using.12:52
pvoceTquid: Im using a linksys right now12:52
WWObsidians: When you say it doesn't do anything, do you get a prompt again, or does the command hang?12:52
jirwincan anyone help me figure out why my installer i hanging on the apt configuration at the exact same spot everytime?12:53
tbirdjirwin, have you tried using different mirrors?12:53
ObsidiansWW: It just hangs at "0% [Working] " Just sits there.12:53
kyncaniObsidians: maybe a badly configured firewall ?12:53
TQuidpvoce:  I have a linksys WMP54G wireless I'm going to be setting up on a new machine, wondering how likely it is to work OTB.12:54
TQuidjirwin, if you do alt-f2, you should get a console showing more detailed errors.12:54
Obsidianskyncani: I don't think so, because apt-get has worked on everything else. And I don't have a firewall, except for whatever's on the router.12:54
WWObsidians: Do other apt-get commands work, such as "apt-get update"?12:54
pvoceTQuid: Is the router going to supply the DHCP or is it a stic network?12:54
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TQuid(This is a wireless pci card, they seem a bit goofy)12:54
jirwinTQuid, i have done that12:54
boyo-atxdoes hoary come with bootsplash?12:54
ObsidiansWW: Even install works, for everything but that one package.12:55
TQuidpvoce, it uses dhcp.12:55
ssamzxc i think you want to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769&highlight=transparent12:55
jirwinTQuid, I am not sure on the errors12:55
TQuidjirwin, what's the error, if any, or the last bit of output when it locks up?12:55
kyncaniObsidians: you can run the command with strace and see where it hangs12:55
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sillygirlyi was wondering if anybody could help me12:55
pvoceTquid: (K)Ubuntu should have no problems finding the network then, provided the pci wireless is setup correctly12:55
jirwinTQuid, the only inkling of an error is that it says it fails to set locale12:56
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Sionidemmm that was the trouble i think i had, i'm wired at the mo - i think my pcmcia wireless card is crap to be honest..12:56
sillygirlyi cant hear sound12:56
pvoceSionide: laptop?12:56
Sionideit is yes12:56
sillygirlysound not working12:57
Obsidianskyncani: It seems to hang on this, apparently:12:57
jirwinTQuid, and that doesn't actually say error, it says warning12:57
Obsidiansselect(17, [16] , [] , NULL, {0, 500000}) = 0 (Timeout)12:57
Obsidiansgettimeofday({1113692236, 218572}, NULL) = 012:57
Obsidiansrt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [WINCH] , [] , 8) = 012:57
Obsidiansrt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [] , NULL, 8) = 012:57
Obsidians0% [Working] )          = 131312:57
Obsidiansselect(17, [16] , [] , NULL, {0, 500000}) = 0 (Timeout)12:57
Obsidiansgettimeofday({1113692236, 718393}, NULL) = 012:57
Obsidiansrt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [WINCH] , [] , 8) = 012:57
Obsidiansrt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [] , NULL, 8) = 012:57
Obsidians0% [Working] )12:57
Sionideouch12:57
pvocesionide: can you at least register local host?12:58
ObsidiansJust keeps repeating that.12:58
Sionidemega paste12:58
markuman:-D12:58
Sionideerr not sure pvoce, i'm not bothered trying it again right this minute.12:58
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keyeshello12:58
keyesi've a pb with gdm12:58
sillygirlydoes anybody else have a sound issue?12:58
TQuidpvoce, thanks.  I'll try it with the livecd first, gotta upgrade the ram--only have 64MB!12:58
pvocesionide: ahhhic...thought you were working on it and typing at another terminal:))12:59
pvoceTquid: should be pretty smooth then12:59
Sionidenah im actually watching the pretty gnome x-screensavers at the moment, very bored... :P12:59
kyncaniObsidians: if you're a little experienced with c, you can see what this 16 descriptor is12:59
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djm62sillygirly: can you hear sound outside your computer?12:59
kyncaniObsidians: (next time, use #flood)12:59
keyesI'm french and i've select "french" il the ubuntu install, all my system is in french but not GDM :s GDM is in english :-S12:59
pvocesionide: DOOONNNNTTT LLEEEEETTTT THEEEEMMMM SSSUUUUUCCCKKK TYTYYOOUUUUUU IINNNNNNN:))12:59
WWObsidians: Strange.  If you get desperate, you could try bypassing build-essential and get the individual packages.  You probably want gcc. g++, make and libc6-dev.01:00
waseemwhen i download tar files to the Desktop, theyre hidden. how do i make them show as icons?>01:00
Sionidebut the one with blue sqaures which fade is just SO COOL01:00
Sionideseriously. :/01:00
keyesi've already all locale-fr installed and i've run dpkg-reconfigure locales but nothing :-(01:00
sillygirlymy sound card seems to be correctly identified...  but no sound comes out.01:00
RustyShacklefordI'm back.  So basically, it would just let me load into a command prompt.  I had to reconfig and set it back to 640x480 before I could load the desktop back up.01:00
WWObsidians: But even if that works, it is an unsatisfying work-around :(01:00
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djm62sillygirly: have you tried changing the volume-control settings?01:00
sillygirlyyes.01:00
ObsidiansWW: I tried doing G++, and it doesn't seem to go either. Same thing, hangs on 0%.01:00
sillygirlynothing seems to help01:00
keyessillygirly => have u a tuner card, a usb webcam or micro, ... ?01:01
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waseemwhen i download tar files to the Desktop, theyre hidden. how do i make them show as icons?01:01
sillygirlyno tuner card, yes to usb webcam/mic01:01
pvoceobsidians: is the machine youre installing on on a network?01:01
sillygirlyi unplugged the webcam hoping that would help... didnt01:01
Jarrettehey, can anyone tell me how to manually change the screen's resolution? the gnome tool isn't giving me all the options01:01
Obsidianspvoce: It's on a home network I suppose, yes.01:01
keyessillygirly:  https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=129301:01
pvoceARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!  PRINTING DOTH VEX ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:01
sillygirlythanks! brb01:02
ObsidiansJarrette: It's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I think.01:02
pvoceObsidians: Does it pick up the netowrk as part of the installation?01:02
Jarrettei tried01:02
Jarretteit doesn't chnage what the gnome tool's finding01:02
waseemdoes anyone know why .tar files arent showing up on the destkop when i download them?01:02
jirwinCan anyone help me figure out why my hoary installation stalls during the apt configuration at the same spot?01:02
RustyShacklefordMy resolution is f'ed up too.  I tried editing but it just let me boot into a command prompt.01:02
Jarretteit's frustrating, cause i have some obscure resolution right now01:03
kyncaniwaseem: because they're downloaded somewhere else ???01:03
jirwinJarrette, make sure that your monitor was detected correctly, and includes your refresh ates01:03
waseemkyncani, they are downloaded onto the Desktop01:03
keyesnoone for help me with my gdm problem ?01:04
jirwins/ates/rates01:04
Jarrettei chose the resolution settings during the install, but i made some bad choices, i jsut want to be able to choose from new ones01:04
jirwinkeyes, what is the problem?01:04
kyncaniJarrette: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:04
waseemi can access it through the terminal01:04
sillygirlyi an a newbie to linux... only a few months total w/ diff distros... i dont understand how to change the first/second devices...01:04
Jarrettethank you01:04
pvocekeyes: you might be able to d/l the french for gnome trough synaptic01:04
keyesjirwin:  all my system is in french (good), but my gdm is in english :-S01:04
keyespvoce:  all is downloded01:04
keyesit's the pb01:04
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jirwinkeyes, I would look in synaptic for the language paks01:05
sillygirlydo i need to reinstall w/o the webcam connected?01:05
jirwinpacks*01:05
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pvocekeyes: The desktop or the bootsplash?01:05
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keyesjirwin:  i've all french lang pack installed01:05
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sillygirly#keyes01:05
sillygirlylol01:05
keyespvoce:  gdm01:05
sillygirlyoops01:05
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keyesthe desktop manager01:06
pvoceet gdm pas en francais, dscoord?01:06
keyesyes01:06
keyes;)01:06
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cjpro/join #0,0   <<< Is that channel safe?01:06
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pvoceavez vous KDM?01:06
pvoceah...he left01:07
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virginiehi01:07
sillygirlydo i need to reinstall ubuntu w/o having the webcam connected to get the sound to work?01:07
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sillygirlyanybody?  please?01:08
keyessorry01:08
MacIvercjpro: sure01:08
pvocekeyes: np....do you have KDE installed?01:08
keyespvoce:  no01:08
keyesjust gnome01:08
sillygirlyalright thanks for all the help... bye01:08
dycewho has used usb wireless adaptors?01:09
ubuntuhi01:09
pvocekeyes: perhaps you can use kdm, since theyre a bit more up on i8ln01:09
virginiedoes someone know why when i disconnect from gnome the monitor is black and i must reboot the computer even a Ctrl+Alt+Fn doesnt work :( did someone get this problem ?01:09
keyespvoce:  i don't like kdm01:10
pvocevirginie: which desktop manager are you using?01:10
keyesi prefere gdm in english :)01:10
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virginieGNOME it's the default ...01:10
waseemok im trying to install a program but i need tcl01:10
pvocekeyes: lol youre loyal:)01:10
waseemhow do i install tcl?01:10
crimsunwaseem: aptitude install tcl8.4-dev01:11
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pvocevirginie: do you boot striaght to your desktop or do you have to log on first01:11
virginiepvoce i'm using gdm01:11
monkey89I have a rule for my logitech mouse to run a certain command in /etc/udev/rules.d/logitech-mice.rules - problem is, it isn't ran when I reboot my computer, but if I do /etc/init.d/udev restart, it works - any ideas?01:11
pvocevirginie: it sounding like your gdm is failing to restart when you log out01:11
kyncaniwaseem: which program are you trying to install ?01:11
virginiepvoce, but it's really weird ...01:11
virginiepvoce, the screen goes black and I cant do anything .... even try to goes to console it doesnt allow or maybe it does but i cant see it01:12
pvocevirginie: before you log out, try doing this: Open up a terminal and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop", then log out01:12
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pvocevirginie: you SHOULD get to a simple cl when you log out of gnome01:13
virginiepvoce, i did a gdm restart and it worked ... but when i just disconnect it goes black :(01:13
waseemkyncani: where is the Tcl librarly location now?01:13
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SeamusLPIs it just me, or is nautilus buggy as hell?01:13
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kyncanivirginie: you can try this (blindfolded): go to console, log in, sudo eject /dev/yourcdrom  (and give password). This will tell you if the box is crashed01:14
crimsunwaseem: did you install tcl8.4-dev?01:14
djm62d'oh!01:14
pvocevirginie: check your ps and see if the process is staying resident or of its either dying or going zombie01:14
waseemcrimsun: yes01:15
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virginiebut how when the screen is black and nothing is working anymore :)01:15
crimsunwaseem: does it only need tcl, or does it need tk, too?01:15
virginiei've got this in the X log : (II) R128(0): DPMS capabilities: StandBy Suspend; RGB/Color Display01:15
kyncaniwaseem: which program are you trying to install in the first place ? cannot get it with apt ?01:15
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waseem# An implementation of the OpenGL API version 1.1 or greater (Mesa versions >= 3.2 work; see http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net). Note that you will need a hardware-accelerated implementation of OpenGL in order for Tux Racer to be playable.01:17
waseem# The GLUT library, version 3.7 beta or greater. This is distributed in the MesaDemos package, so if you have installed Mesa you probably also have GLUT. Otherwise, see http://www.opengl.org.01:17
waseem# Tcl Version 8.0 or greater.01:17
waseem# (Optional) Simple DirectMedia Layer (SDL) Version 1.1.1 or greater. This is required for joystick support.01:17
waseem# (Optional) SDL_mixer Version 1.0 or greater. This is required for sound and music support.01:17
waseemthose are the requirements01:17
waseemim trying to ./configure it01:18
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waseemim trying to install tuxracer01:18
waseemheh.01:18
Rhymesis it safe to upgrade from hoary to breezy?01:18
SeamusLPRhymes I wouldn't do it, they're switching to GCC401:19
crimsunwaseem: apt-get build-dep tuxracer01:19
RhymesSeamusLP: ok thanks01:19
SeamusLPAlso i was talking to a guy in MOTU and he doesn't believe it's a very good idea -- maybe in a few months he says, if you're brave :)01:20
waseemwow ok thanks01:20
waseemwhat does build-dep do?01:20
kyncaniwaseem: or apt-get install tuxracer01:20
SeamusLPand waseem, do a search for tuxracer in synaptic...01:21
UbuWuDoes anyone know if there is a clipboard deamon/manager in the repositories? (I couldn't find it)01:21
waseemya i did it with install01:21
kyncaniwaseem: if in the first place you're trying to get tuxracer01:21
SeamusLPor what kyncani said :)01:21
kyncani:)01:21
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kyncaniwaseem: in fact, don't install anything manually if it's available with ssynaptic unless you cannot do otherwise01:22
waseemok01:22
waseemits really laggy01:22
waseemany reason for that?01:22
kyncaniwaseem: sure you're using harware 3d accel ?01:23
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waseemkyncani: i have no clue01:23
justinlbarnesI'm back.  Still no luck.01:23
LycoNHow do i stop rendering with MesaGL but with my ATI card?01:23
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kyncaniwaseem: what does  glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering'  tells you ?01:24
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waseemno01:25
RustyShacklefordThis screen resolution is kicking my ass.01:25
kyncaniwaseem: well, you don't have hardware 3d accel :)01:25
LycoNCan anyone tell me how I can change fglrxinfo from saying i am rendering with MesaGL...it should say i am rendering with ATI 9800 Pro01:25
kyncaniwaseem: (or at least not enabled)01:25
waseemkyncani: assuming i have it, how would i enable it?01:26
kyncaniwaseem: what graphic card ?01:26
waseemheh um...01:26
waseemhow would i find that out?01:26
kyncaniwaseem: you don't know if you have nvidia or ati ?01:26
waseemkyncani: sadly no01:27
copilotIs there a way to reset the sound? If I leave my computer up for a few days the audio gets quieter and quieter01:27
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kyncaniwaseem: well, you can find out with lspci, or hal-device-manager i think01:27
threadanybody know about SD card readers in laptops?01:28
threadhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=838101:28
threadI posted at the end of that thread01:28
LycoNkyncani: hey01:28
djm62copilot: really?01:28
djm62copilot: that's the strangest thing I've ever heard01:28
kyncaniLycoN: i don't have ati, don't know. But you may find some ubuntu howto with google01:29
LycoNthanks01:29
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LycoNhey but still how did u change ur OpenGL rendering to nvidia01:30
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waseemGeForce2 MX/MX 40001:30
waseemi think its nVidia01:30
kyncaniLycoN: well, i just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and the nvidia driver was there01:31
djm62apt-get install more-sound01:31
kyncaniwaseem: see just aboce @01:31
kyncani^01:31
waseemwhats that?01:31
copilotRight now, everything is all the way up, and it's barely audible to watch a movie, but I'm gonna restart and full volume will be deafening.01:31
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kyncaniwaseem: i think if you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, you can choose the nvidia driver01:32
Aboodhi all, guys im newbie to ubuntu i was using another dirsto and tonight i installed ubuntu but i dont know i think that i had installed it correctly, but when its loads the setting its gives me at the end a moving small windows writtien in it " Sincronismo errato" any idea about this thing ?01:32
waseemkyncani: how do i make it so that i can just choose the nvidia driver01:32
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kyncaniwaseem: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, choose the nvidia driver01:33
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djm62Abood: do you know what that would be in english?01:33
ratiusdoes anyone here is playing World of Warcraft on Linux?01:33
Abooddjm62 i have the same proplem i dont know what does it means :( or why it appears suddnly ?!01:34
Aboodany idea guys, plz need support with ubuntu :(01:35
waseemkyncani: select the desired X server driver01:35
waseemwhich one should i choose?01:35
kyncaniwaseem: ?? nvidia !01:35
MaCaDesincronismo errato = sync error, or something?01:35
djm62Abood: did it finish installing?01:36
waseemkyncani: i already looked for that, there is no nvidia01:36
waseemthere is ati however01:36
waseemshould i choose that?01:36
kyncaniwaseem: hmmm, you're using hoary ?01:36
waseemyes01:37
kyncaniwaseem: and you do have either linux-386 or 586 or 686 installed ?01:37
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jirwinhello01:37
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jirwinwhat is the best way to go about upgrading from warty to hoary?01:37
Abooddjm62: yes and suddenly the window appears !!!, i dont know, man its like the windows that appears whem ur screen turned on and ur pc turned off it moves to every corner01:38
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djm62Abood: oh....01:38
kyncaniwaseem: try: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable01:38
tbirdjirwin, edit sources.list change all entrys from warty to hoary01:38
djm62Abood: that sounds like it's your monitor  not working with X01:38
jirwintbird: is there something like distupgrade?01:38
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tbirdjirwin, apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade01:39
jirwintbird, what does that do?01:39
waseemkyncani: command not found01:39
djm62Abood: try ctrl-alt-f1 and see if you get a text console01:39
tbirdupgrades you to hoary01:39
jirwintbird, after I change the sources?01:39
tbirdyes01:39
jirwinthanks :)01:39
tbirdnp01:39
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Abooddjm62 hows that dude, its was working with the other dirstubtions and with xp too its new compaq 17 inc ??01:40
kyncaniwaseem: howto at this page: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto01:40
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djm62Abood: this might be the first distro you've used with X.org instead of xfree8601:40
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Abooddjm62: idont know01:41
Aboodi translated the world its means that "wrong sincronismo"01:41
djm62Abood: can you get a text console by doing ctrl-alt-f1?01:41
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tlegood morning everyone!01:42
k-otikgood evening everyone01:43
Abooddjm62 : i dont know i will try, so if i get it what shall i write or to do ?!01:43
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djm62Abood: I think (correct me anyone) you want to do that, then log in, then type dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg01:43
tleCan someone here check up for me why gcc-4.0 does not link libstdc++6-dev (instead gcc3.4 is linked)?01:44
djm62Abood: "sudo dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg"01:44
Abooddjm62: ok let me restart my pc and try it , brb01:45
tledjm62: Abood: the bug with screen solution is bug #5197, WIP bug01:45
k-otikin ssh how do i copy a file to my computer from the remote computer?01:45
k-otikcp /dld/file.png then what01:45
djm62tle: thanks01:45
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CwiiisHi all - Anyone here using breezy?01:45
tleT_T01:46
kyncanik-otik: use scp01:46
tlecan someone help me with GCC4 and libstdc++6-dev? they don't depend on each other, tell me how to link them??!!01:46
k-otikawesome01:46
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djm62tle: bug #5197 on whose bugzilla?01:49
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tleUbuntu01:50
djm62pyc and pyo files?01:50
tledjm62: 591701:51
tlesorri01:51
IRCGuest0this not really ubuntu related but01:51
CwiiisAnyone using breezy and having trouble with usb storage devices? dmesg shows that they're detected, but no devices are made for me, anyone have any ideas?01:51
IRCGuest0im typing a resume and it has to be 10 pt font to fit everything01:51
IRCGuest0is 10 pt fine?01:51
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tleya01:52
tlemake it 1 page resume' is the best01:52
IRCGuest0tle the problem is :  Im out of space01:52
IRCGuest0i need to add even more :(01:52
IRCGuest0tle i cut and pasted my monster resume to wordperfect (with openoffice it didnt come out right)01:53
IRCGuest0it has large margins01:53
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IRCGuest0i mean large spaces on the top and bottom01:53
GrabenOk in qt apps, the cursor changes to the default X cursor when selecting or busy signal, I've had the problem sometimes before running straight KDE any one know how to fix this?01:54
djm62IRCGuest0: 10pt is small...01:54
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IRCGuest0djm62 problem is i cant fit it01:54
IRCGuest0i pasted from monster to wordperfect and it has large gaps on the top and bottom so i need 10pt01:54
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tleIRCGutst0: the best... now split equally to 2 pages, ...honestly to say, I never like WordPerfect not OpenOffice.org, the best now is still MS Office even though I'm using Linux as my native devel-environment01:55
djm62IRCGuest0: you might want to change the margins01:55
IRCGuest0djm62:  hmmm01:55
IRCGuest0ok ill try that first01:55
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djm62I don't know how you'd do it in WP01:55
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IRCGuest0cant01:55
IRCGuest0its set to 001:55
IRCGuest0and has a big gap01:55
IRCGuest0oh well 10pt it is01:55
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Cwiiisheh, seems #ubuntu has turned into #resumehelp :p01:56
IRCGuest08.5 x 11 is right?01:56
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Quest-MasterIs there anyway I can get Firefox to identify my OS as Windows instead of Linux? I can't download this program because it keeps on saying my OS (Ubuntu) isn't supported, but this app. can be run through Wine01:56
Quest-Master;(01:56
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djm62Openoffice is pretty good, but 2.0 will be better...if only I had a reason to use it01:56
IRCGuest0djm62:  8.5 x 11 is right?01:56
djm62IRCGuest0: depends on what country you're in01:56
djm62I don't know them all01:56
IRCGuest0usa01:57
djm62don't know for usa01:57
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IRCGuest0djm62 it should be right for usa01:57
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djm62Quest-Master: I think if you do tools->extensions->get extensions you can download a User Agent switcher01:57
Quest-Masterdjm62: Thanks01:58
locomortoyou can01:58
locomortoits called user agent switch or some such01:58
locomortoswitcher*01:58
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KevadAnybody here know how to get an iBook to wake up from sleep under Ubuntu?  Worked fine with Debian...01:59
tlehey ppl01:59
zxcis there anyway to make windows transparent in ubuntu?01:59
tleis it possible and legal to make DEB RealPlayer 10?01:59
zxcKevad, I think I saw something on that, lemme try and find it01:59
djm62Quest-Master: https://addons.update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=5901:59
GrabenThis is odd, using x chat I can't middle click to paist from a different window in x-chat, only the same one, why?02:00
IRCGuest0hmm02:00
djm62tle: I'm almost certain it is...distributing it might be tricky...ask on the helixcommunity.whatever site02:00
Grabensorry paste not paist02:00
zxckevad, thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=75ba81bb2636059fce9751d67e0396a2&t=2526402:01
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CwiiisAh, solved my own problem - needed to modprobe sd_mod, if anyone has the same problem02:01
Aboodback djm6202:01
djm62Abood: any luck02:01
djm62?02:01
Aboodman i tried the alt + ctl + f102:01
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Aboodand yes its giving me the none graphical login02:01
Aboodand when i type the sudo dpkg --....02:01
Aboodit told me that its already installed and configured02:02
RustyShacklefordDamn screen resolution problem.  I'm at a stalemate here.02:02
Quest-MasterIs there a way to get WINE to identify itself as Windows XP or Windows 98?02:02
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Abooderror encountered while prossesing xserver-xorg ?!?!?!02:02
Aboodso any new djm62 ?02:02
djm62does anyone know a good tool for configuring X for abood?02:02
Aboodplzz guys i need to run itt02:03
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frankQuest-Master, I think so with a command line option02:03
Aboodand another thing djm62, the ubuntu didnt ask me what root password i want ?!02:03
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djm62Abood: you could try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" in case it works02:03
frankAbood, there is no root password in ubuntu02:04
djm62Abood: root has no password in ubuntu...if you want to do root stuff, you use sudo02:04
Aboodaha02:04
djm62Abood: of course, you _can_ give root a passwd, but you don't need to02:04
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RustyShacklefordSo, i've tried adding the vertrefresh and horisync rates, but with no luck.  I have no idea what to do.02:04
Aboodok djm62 : does this way will work ? ""sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"" ??02:04
frankhow do I enable dma for my cdroms and is that the reason why everything is so slow when I burn?02:05
djm62Abood: it will try to restart X, which might work...try it02:05
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nickrudRustyShackford, hi02:06
RustyShacklefordHi02:06
Aboodok brb02:06
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nickruddid you ever have a chance to check the X logs?02:06
Abood:) switching os02:06
djm62anyone know a simple console irc client?02:07
RustyShacklefordI found this, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell02:07
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rmilundjm62,bitchx?02:07
djm62rmilun: you should ask about your kernel difficulties in here02:08
rmilunsirc?02:08
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RustyShacklefordI followed that, but when I rebooted, it took me to a command prompt.  The desltop wouldn't load up.02:08
rmilunah,yes....should i copy whole message,or what?02:08
djm62where there are people much more experienced than I02:08
djm62yeah02:08
rmilunroot@ubuntu:~/Intel536-460-1 # make 536ep Module precompile check Current running kernel is: 2.6.8.1-3-386 /lib/modules... autoconf.h existsdiff: /boot/vmlinuz.autoconf.h: No such file or directory autoconf.h matches running kerneldiff: /boot/vmlinuz.version.h: No such file or directory version.h matches running kernelcd coredrv; make \ "PSTN_DEF=-DTARGET_SELAH -DTARGET_LINUX -DLINUX" \ 536ep;make[1] : Entering directory `/root/Intel536-460-1/coredrv'cc -DTAR02:08
rmilunthat is what i got when i tried to install intel 536ep modem02:09
siimowinmodem!02:09
rmilunyep02:10
jordanausiimo, that brings back bad memories...02:10
rmilunsiimo:that modem is working perfectly in slackware linux...02:10
siimormilun, doesn't that modem have precompiled drivers in ubuntu02:10
rmilunno,never saw them?02:10
rmiluni dont think so02:10
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nickrudThat helps, maybe :)02:10
MaCaDeHi folks, I have a problem getting my iBook to boot my new Ubuntu 5.04 installation from an external FireWire HD. I've had to install yaboot manually because the installer gave an error doing that. Now, when booting, it kernel-panics with these messages: "pivot_root: No such file or directory" and "/sbin/init: 428: cannot open /dev/console: No such file".02:10
rmilundunno,if they exist,maybe you could search them for me,or so?02:10
rmiluni am desperate ppl :)02:11
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MaCaDeSo what do I do now? Tried creating a new initrd to no avail. Any ideas appreciated.02:11
siimormilun, just do what you did in slackware, err wait its failing?02:11
rmilunyep,same procedure,it failed...02:11
jbaileyMaCaDe: There's Officially no support for booting off of removable drives in Hoary.02:11
jbaileyMaCaDe: If you know which modules you need, you can add them to /etc/mkinitrd/modules02:12
nickrudRandyShackleford, did you do that bios thing in the wiki?02:12
rmiluni downloaded:linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386_2.6.8.1-16_i386.deb and linux-image-3.6.8.1-3-386_2.6.8.1-16_i386.deb,i tought that is needed....02:12
MaCaDejbailey: oic. too bad.. don't really want to destroy my Mac OS X setup. :/02:12
MaCaDejbailey: any idea how I figure out which modules I need?02:12
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jbaileyMaCaDe: I don't know firewire that well.  I'm guess ieee1394, but I don't know what the usual mass storage drivers are for it./02:13
siimormilun, you using the latest version?02:13
siimohttp://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/Intel/536/intel-536EP-2.56.76.0.tgz02:13
rmilunsimmo,no,ubuntu 4.10,that is all i have02:13
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RustyShacklefordI edited everything as it said.  I just wonder if I just need to add the horisync and vertrefresh only.02:13
siimoi mean latest version of the driver rmilun02:13
MaCaDejbailey: hmm. I also have a ubunti 4.x live cd (which I used to make the test initrd).. if I do 'lsmod' there, it should give me clues as to the modules, right?02:13
MaCaDeubunti = ubuntu02:14
rmilunwell dunno...i use same version i used for my slackware?02:14
nickrudYou're using the file from the wiki?02:14
siimormilun, i just posed the link ^^ look up02:14
jbaileyMaCaDe: Right, that would help.  Especially if you can mount that drive.02:14
RustyShacklefordI'm using this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsDell02:14
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rmilunsiimo,what link?02:15
MaCaDejbailey: yep, it mounts automatically when i insert it. thanks for the clue - i'm going to puzzle some more. :)02:15
siimormilun,  http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/Intel/536/intel-536EP-2.56.76.0.tgz02:15
rmilunah,k02:15
nickrudok, do   lspci  in a terminal and look for the display controller. Is it an 810?02:15
KevadHere goes nothing...02:16
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rmilunare there some drivers in some nice .deb package?02:16
pinSare there other FTP apps other than gftp02:16
rmiluni would prefer to get that type of drivers :)02:16
pinSthis gftp thing is driving me insane02:16
KevadHHey, it worked02:16
siimormilun, you will have to look around02:16
KevadThanks zxc02:16
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Belzebuthhi02:17
rmilunwell i am looking around....google doesnt know :)02:17
Belzebuthsomebody has concern with screen resolution ???02:17
pinSanyone recommend ftp apps?02:17
BelzebuthI have02:17
Belzebuthvery borrowing02:17
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dcahrakosanyone know if there is any known problems with ubuntu and Compaqs, and or intel Celerons?02:18
BelzebuthI can't go over 1024x76802:18
Belzebuthand I want 1280x102402:18
Belzebuthmy tft prefers02:18
djm62dcahrakos: I'm running it on a compaq nx9020 with intel celeron...works fine02:19
Belzebuthanybody is aware of this concern ?02:19
RustyShacklefordI see nothing that says 81002:19
nickrudmaybe 84502:19
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dcahrakosdjm62 damn, must be my computer then, I cant get it to install, always resets when it gets to uncompressing linux...ok, booting kernel02:20
RustyShackleford82845G02:20
djm62what sort of computer is it?02:20
nickrudOK, then you're using the right settings, if the wiki is right :)02:20
djm62dcahrakos: check http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsCompaq02:20
siimormilun, ubuntuforums is your friend -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210202:20
dcahrakosits not a laptop though02:21
RustyShacklefordI'll try just adding the sync and refreash rates.02:21
djm62d'oh02:21
siimormilun, what error you got while building when you tried before?02:21
dcahrakoscompaq presario SR1010V celeron 2.8ghz 786MB ram, radeon 9250 video card is my system specs02:21
nickrudmaybe before doing that, move /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way, and02:21
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nickrudrunning dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg first, to start from scratch02:22
djm62dcahrakos: try with noacpi option when you boot02:22
RustyShacklefordI had to run reconfig to get back to the desktop.  So thats taken care of.02:23
siimormilun, ping02:23
nickrudha :)02:23
dcahrakosI tried, noacpi nolacpi, havent tried with just noacpi though02:23
siimoanyone know if the linux headers are on the warty CD ?02:23
djm62dcahrakos: if it reboots rather than freezes, it suggests power-management issues02:24
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revelateryou have got to be kidding me, there is not a single accounting /billing program out there that compiles correctly in ubuntu!!!02:25
dcahrakosthats weird02:25
pinSanyone please recommend ftp clients for me. no gftp02:25
revelaterdoes anyone do there accounting in linux?02:25
djm62revelater: accounting or billing? what sort of programme do you want?02:25
revelaterboth, or one each it doesn't matter02:26
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djm62revelater: moneydance (in java) is a paid-for application which is meant to be good02:26
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revelaterdjm62: syaing "meant to" doesn't help...02:27
dragonmanHi everyone im a newbie02:27
revelaterdjm62: and what about free?02:27
jordanaudragonman, hi02:27
revelaterdjm62: is there anything like quickbooks?02:27
djm62revelater: I'm trying to be helpful...gnucash is good enough for me02:27
djm62but it sounds like you have more business needs02:28
jordanaurevelater, gnucash02:28
elishi dragonman   :)02:28
dragonmani need some help i downloaded 5.04 x64 iso but i don't know how to make it an iso02:28
revelaterok will try that then02:28
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elisdragonman: what urning app you  have?02:28
jordanaudragonman, go to your burning software02:28
dragonmani unzipped it but its not a true iso or bin/cue file02:29
elisyou don't need to unzip it02:29
dragonmannero 6.6 ultra02:29
RustyShacklefordYes, its fixed now.  Thanks for the help nick.02:29
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elisyou need to burn it as image02:29
nickrudI'm glad it worked.02:29
pharaonic_anubisIs there a guide on installing Anureus under Warty?02:29
pharaonic_anubisAn ubuntu how-to perhaps?02:29
k-otikwhat kind of cd burning software does ubuntu come with?02:29
k-otikdoe sit come with any?02:29
dragonmanoh ok thanks i'll try that02:30
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jordanauk-otik, you can get gnomebaker form repos02:30
elisopen nero, and go to recorder -> burn image02:30
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dragonmani appreciate the help guys will try it and get back to u02:30
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revelaterdjm62: need to download 11 megs..... most of which are part of gnome (ugh)...02:30
elisgood luck02:30
jordanaudragonman, good luck02:30
djm62revelater: what are your specific needs?02:31
revelatermanage accounts and billing for me and my clients02:31
djm62what are you using atm?02:32
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revelaterdjm62: nothing, i am starting a business, and i don't have much capitol.02:33
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SeamusLPrevelater:  I'm not sure if GNUcash will suit your needs, but perhaps you should try it?02:34
revelateryah, downloading now, but it takes up like 40 megs02:34
djm62revelater: more lightweight http://www.sql-ledger.org/02:34
SeamusLPAre you space-limited?02:34
revelaterno, i just don't want so much bulk in my computer02:35
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SeamusLPYou can always get rid of it if you find a better alternative02:35
djm62includes billing features02:36
_troylinux journal or linux magazine (uk) did a review of financial apps several months ago02:37
_troywith a slant toward business02:37
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Aboodback02:37
_troyyou could prob find an online archive of that article02:37
jordanaurevelater, http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml you should be able to find some links there02:38
Abooddjm62 man i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i entered the configuration window but nothing goes well :S02:38
jordanauBTW that is an awesome link for windows > linux people02:38
Aboodany solution guys for the x proplem >??!?!02:38
SeamusLP_troy:  Know of any quickbooks alternatives with an API and the ability to import quickbooks data?02:38
jordanauAbood, what problem?02:38
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_troySeamusLP: I am looking for the article, I usually keep that stuff around, not sure right off about the QB import02:39
Aboodjordanau: man with the X confirgration window proplem02:39
Aboodxserver02:39
SeamusLP_troy:  Been thinking about switching the workplace to linux, it's getting larger and we'll save on the microsoft tax in the long run02:40
_troySeamusLP: that 'tax' can be a very good incentive :)02:41
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SeamusLP_troy: Indeed.  It'd be nice to have a quickbooks alternative as well, don't really want to run it under 98 in qemu02:41
Aboodjordanau any solution dude ?!02:42
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_troySeamusLP: This article I am thinking of did compare against quickbooks I believe02:43
djm62Abood: you could try using the vesa x server option...no acceleration though02:43
SeamusLP_troy:  It would totally rock if you could find it :D02:43
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Abooddjm62 how can i use that ?!02:43
slezhow i set opera to my default webbrowser ?02:43
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djm62_troy: I read it too....but magazines go out-of-date so quickly in FLOSS02:43
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qscdhow can i install icewm in ubuntu i hate gnome :p02:44
Zombapt-get install icewm02:44
Zombyou need universe in sources.list02:44
djm62slez: menu: System->Preferences->Preferred Applications02:44
sleztnx man02:44
jordanauAbood, no02:44
djm62slez: how is opera these days?02:45
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mrc3hi all! 'python2.4 setup.py install' always fails. any hint?02:46
cens0redgood moaning02:46
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SeamusLPmrc3:  Might be some unmet dependencies02:46
SeamusLPlike some dev files or something02:46
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SeamusLPsearch for python 2.4 and see if you can find them02:46
jordanauquick non ubuntu question, I want to make a digital picture frame, I need a linux distro to run feh and ssh and thats it, i will use an old laptop so small is key02:46
mrc3py2.3 does work, though02:46
jordanauany suggestions?02:47
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SeamusLPhey mrc3 I had to install python2.4-dev to get a few things to work02:47
djm62jordanau: minimal debian?02:47
SeamusLPsudo apt-get install python2.4-dev02:47
jordanaudjm62, how small can it be?02:48
qscdhas anyone got photoshop working in Ubuntu?02:48
mrc3SeamusLP, darn, i missed those! thanks!!02:48
jordanaudjm62, that sounds good cause i am getting used to debian through ubuntu02:48
SeamusLPmrc3:  No problem man :)02:48
djm62jordanau: not quite on a floppy, but you can get it on 100M IIRC02:49
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slezdamn, what is defalt in, menu: System->Preferences->Preferred Applications - web browsers02:49
djm62slez: click on a link in another gnome app...I think firefox is on ubuntu02:49
Aboodis their any body that can help with the xserver-xorg proplem in ubuntu ????? im stuck i can enter the graphical interface02:49
jordanaudjm62, thanks i will look into it02:49
slezok02:50
sleztnx02:50
qscdhas anyone got photoshop working in Ubuntu?!! need to know ASAP02:50
jordanauAbood, post your xorg log02:50
SeamusLPqscd:  I think photoshop 7 works really well in crossover office02:50
djm62Abood: restate your problem for those who have just joined...X causes some kind of sync error in your TFT monitor02:50
Bukkakecrossover office?02:50
SeamusLPqscd:  However you must pay for crossover office02:50
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djm62qscd: I haven't used it on ubuntu, but I have seen it work in wine02:51
_troySeamusLP: still looking02:51
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qscdk thanks dawgs02:51
SeamusLP_troy:  If it's too much of a request don't worry about it02:51
SeamusLPdjm62:  Vanilla wine?02:51
jordanaudjm62, do you have any experience with vector linux?02:51
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djm62SeamusLP: wine on MDK...couple of years ago02:52
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BukkakeSeamusLP: Heh.. what's crossover office?02:52
waseemim trying to play tuxracer but its really laggy02:52
djm62jordanau: none at all...feather linux has worked for me as a keychain distro02:52
waseemdoes anyone know what i can do?02:52
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djm62waseem: it seems that you don't have Direct Rendering (graphics acceleration) enabled02:53
delltonyhi anyone had any luck getting a lt winmodem working with ubuntu i noticed there is a package in the repository called linux restricted modules that has ltmodem in it. i'm just wondering after apt-getting it do i have to do anything special to get it to work like modprobin or what have you02:53
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SeamusLPBukkake:  Typing your name gives me an unpleasant feeling.  Crossover office is designed to emulate common windows applications extremely well02:53
BukkakeKinda like wine?02:53
BukkakeIt's my "auto-name," sorry, forgot to change it02:54
SeamusLPYes, only improved.  It's concentrated for certain tasks, like cedega02:54
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SeamusLPyou can run microsoft office, photoshop 7, quicktime, itunes, quicken, etc really well with it02:54
eruin"MMM, Bukkake"? :P02:54
_troySeamusLP: no trouble at all, I am just not as organized as I would like to be02:55
MMMI didn't want to go back to my very "original" nick . . . 'cuz I know some mature people in some mature channels ;\ first thing that came to my mind..02:55
MMMSeamusLP: It's not a "renamed" wine now, is it?02:55
SeamusLPMMM what's that now?02:55
MMM"wine," I think was another something  . . . that could enable Linux users to use MS products02:56
slurpaswhen i trie to write  here (swe chars) they do normal, but when i ssh in..there is a 1 chare delay before they come on the screen.. anyone know how to fix?02:56
djm62SeamusLP: the best wine integration I've seen was on SuSe: insert "multimedia" CD, automatically installs quicktime and puts it in the taskbar, and plays the CD02:56
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slurpas(and i cant type them in the vi editor)02:56
vs_zachhey02:56
SeamusLPMMM:  Like I said, it's basically wine improved for certain applications...02:56
vs_zachwhats the dpkg command to uninstall02:56
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SeamusLPMMM:  If you're a member you can vote for future supported applications, and donate to certain applications to get them supported02:56
djm62vs_zach: apt-get remove xxxxxxx02:57
MMondOhh, must had missed that one message, sorry02:57
RustyShacklefordIs there a program for ubuntu like WinBar for windows?02:57
vs_zachno02:57
vs_zachnot apt02:57
vs_zachdpkg02:57
eruingod damn02:57
djm62vs_zach: oh, hang on02:57
SeamusLPdjm62:  Cool.  Does quicktime work well with wine now?02:57
eruinrhythmbox-merge--0.9 doesnt like breezy ;)02:57
delltonydpkg deinstall02:57
eruinquicktime works fine with xine :o02:57
djm62SeamusLP: it did then...worked perfectly02:58
djm62that was suse 9.102:58
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danwolfhello02:58
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MMondBut anyways . . . uhm, so I've been using Linux for my first two weeks now . . . and I'm ready to start using this as my primary desktop machine . . . could someone give me a few good pointers? Is it advisable for me to use some of the virtual terminals for . . . say, irssi? Common browing? And anything else I should now? Some tips and tricks for common use and such?02:58
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danwolfI need a little help with a hardware problem02:58
danwolfcan someone give me a hand?02:58
djm62and macromedia are (reputedly) testing flash creator stuff on wine02:59
SeamusLPdjm62 SuSE 9.1 was the first linux I used.  As a joke I typed notepad into the run dialogue and you won't guess what came up... heh02:59
delltonydpkg -r whatever the packagenameyou want  (try man dpkg for more information )02:59
slezneed i to install some programs to get a connect whit my windows hdd ?02:59
danwolfWhen I login to gnome occasionally I get an error Failed to initialize hal02:59
RustyShacklefordBasically i'm just looking for a Network Meter, CPU Meter, and some other stuff.02:59
SeamusLPdjm62 I think it was notepad running under wine.  Pretty useless, heh.03:01
djm62MMond: whatever you're most comfortable with...I prefer to stay in X these days, I used to keep a root shell open on tty1 to discreetly install/configure stuff03:01
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danwolfonly way to recover is to reboot03:01
djm62SeamusLP: that's INSANE03:01
_troySeamusLP: I found some reviews @ Linux Journal, but they are too old, the one I read was in 200403:01
djm62I'm going to have to try it, if I ever use SuSe again03:01
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danwolfI unplugged my pioneer DVD rom and it seems to fix the hal problem, but now my gdm is occasionally locking up03:02
danwolfI need my DVDrom of course03:02
danwolfcan anyone give me a hand with it?03:02
MMonddjm62: Another problem is my laptop is 266 mhz.. installed Ubuntu on this for mere experimenting with Linux (started because I wanted to LAMP working.. I got LAP working instead.. but.. I'm getting there..) in the circumstances (266 mhz laptop) is it advisable for me to login in another virtual terminal and multi-task in those terms?03:03
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kisielkMMond: shouldn't be any problem03:03
RustyShacklefordAnybody know where I can get a program to monitor CPU and other things?03:03
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kisielkMMond: console mode isn't exactly processor or memory intensive03:03
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SeamusLP_troy:  Oh well03:03
Jet2k5hello can someone help me set up my home server?03:03
kisielkRustyShackleford: gkrellm ?03:03
SeamusLP_troy:  You don't remember the magazine name, do you?03:03
Jet2k5it's not working anymore was working fine under warty03:03
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danwolfkisielk: can you help me with my problem?03:04
_troySeamusLP: bah, I just can't find it.  I think they reviewed gnucash, maybe moneydance and several others03:04
djm62MMond: install "screen" I think03:04
kisielkdanwolf: depends what your problem is03:04
ratiusI've got a question, where can i get SSH?03:04
MMond!ping03:04
kisielkdanwolf: and how patient you are :P03:04
kisielkratius: should be installed by default.. openssh03:04
djm62_troy: was it Linux Format?03:04
danwolfkisielk: When loggin into gnome I get a failed to initialize hal problem03:04
_troySeamusLP: has to be Linux Magazine (linux-magazine.com) or Linux Journal, only 2 I get03:04
kisielkdanwolf: can't help you there, I don't use Gnome03:05
danwolfkisielk: this seems to go away when I unplug my pioneer dvdrom03:05
danwolfwell I dont think its a gnome thing03:05
MMondMmm, screen? Is it a terminal for X?03:05
danwolfits a hal thing03:05
kisielkMMond: screen is a terminal multiplexer03:05
danwolfwhen I unplug my dvd rom it goes away, but now gdm locks occasionally03:05
_troySeamusLP: but the slant was toward business, talked about quickbooks, was perfect for what you need03:05
kisielkdanwolf: never seen such a problem03:05
SeamusLP_troy:  I'll dig around for some guides.  I may also experiment with qemu.03:06
xhypnoI have a problem with my new laptop, and I was wondering if someone could help. This is not an install problem, I am very experienced with Linux. The distro is working perfectly, the problem is with the LEDs on the System. Under XP the WiFi on/off light works perfectly, under Linux it does not. If I cat /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ipw2200/*/rf_kill it shows a value of 0 when the WiFi is active and 2 if it is inactive. I am trying to find out how windo03:06
danwolfI only saw one other person with the problem, but they said putting a line in my kernel section of grub menu.lst would fix it, and it didnt03:06
_troySeamusLP: ok, sorry I couldn't find it, luck03:06
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SeamusLP_troy:  No prob man, thanks for giving it a shot03:06
kisielkdanwolf: I've never had any problems with DVD or CDRoms.. neither IDE nor SCSI..03:07
danwolf_troy: can you give me a hand?03:07
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_troydanwolf: sure, I can try03:07
danwolf_troy: thanks03:07
MMond"terminal multiplexer" o.0 . . . I'm confused, could you present a scenerio for this? These days . . . I often use gnome-terminal for most uses . . . open tabs, when I'm man'ing through pages . . . or using irssi instead of xchat (avoiding using xchat because it eats a lot of memory..)03:07
MacIverhey, since ubuntu already has gnome '2.10.1' why doesn't gnome.org?03:08
kisielkMMond: basically you don't need to use tabs03:08
danwolf_troy: as I said to kisielk I get an error failed to initialize hal when I loginto gnome03:08
kisielkMMond: lets you have multiple terminals in one terminal03:08
kisielkMMond: whether you are SSH'd in, or whatever03:08
SeamusLPMacIver:  I thought it was 2.10.0?03:08
kisielkMMond: also you can detatch your session and reattach elsewhere03:08
xhypnoCome on, someone has to have a suggestion?03:08
danwolf_troy: I disconnected my Pioneer DVD rom and it seems to fix it, but now my machine locks up occasionally03:08
danwolf_troy: I need my DVD rom though03:08
MacIverSeamusLP: release announcement said 2.10.103:09
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djm62MacIver: odd number-unstable release?03:09
danwolf_troy: I do see an error occasionally about Fatal: Module ide_mod not found when I boot up03:09
MacIverno, all 2.10.x are stable03:09
danwolf_troy: any ideas?03:09
MacIver2.11 is not stable03:09
_troydanwolf: ok, let me think a bit03:10
danwolf_troy: thank you03:10
SeamusLPMacIver:  When I click system -> about gnome I get version 2.10.003:10
danwolfI will answer any questions you have03:10
MacIverSeamusLP: odd03:10
bwlangxhypno: i  think that led is probably controlled by a bit in nvram ... you could have a look at madwifi to see how they do it  - i don't now how to dump nvram from windows but you could compare a dump from windows to a dump in linux03:10
xhypnobwlang: thanks for the suggestion, I am going try now03:11
_troydanwolf: 2.6.10 kernel?03:11
MacIverhttp://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-April/000023.html03:11
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danwolflemme look03:11
MacIverit says 2.10.103:11
danwolf_troy: lemme look03:12
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danwolf_troy: whats the command to find that?03:12
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_troydanwolf: uname -a03:12
danwolfoh03:12
danwolfforgot -a03:13
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ObsidiansWhen I try to do "apt-get install build-essential" it says "Need to get 0B/2562kB of archives." and then gets to "0% [Working] " and then doesn't do anything. I need to install that package, what do I do?03:13
danwolf_troy: Linux foshizzle 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux03:13
_troydanwolf: kk03:13
danwolf_troy: foshizzle is my computer name ;)03:13
danwolf_troy: thanks03:13
SeamusLPMacIver:  No clue.03:13
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vaiuxanyone happen to be using a wpc54g ver2 pcmcia card succesfully? :)03:13
MMondSorry about the delayed responce -- cleaning and computing at the same time. Anyways . . . I can't imagine, how one could multi-task in such means . . . without something conceptual alike tabs . . . I'm gonna be a nub and google image it for a sec here ;D03:13
_troydandwolf: I like it :)03:14
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danwolf_troy: check your pm's03:14
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MMondCould you please give me some more precise keywords? "screen" that's way too general for google to capture..03:14
LycoNWhen I type fglrxinfo i get Mesa 3d stuff as my OpenGl stuff when it should be my ATI gcard.  Can anyone help me.03:14
RustyShacklefordHow do I get GKrellM?03:14
MMondscreen - screen manager with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation  <-- that it?03:15
MMondRustyShackleford: apt-get install gkrellm03:15
MMond(I think, I'm a nub, but I guess that's probably how)03:15
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pimaniacmmond: gnu screen? :)03:15
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djm62MMond: that's it...very useful too03:16
RustyShacklefordCouldn't find the file.03:16
|QuaD-MMond: man screen03:16
MMond<djm62> MMond: install "screen" I think <kisielk> MMond: screen is a terminal multiplexer03:16
djm62MMond: you need to learn how to use it, then you can do clever stuff03:16
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qcompsonanyone here have a problem with Render Accel and nvidia drivers?03:16
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xhypnoAny one use the actual intel pro/wireless linux drivers03:17
MMond|QuaD-: Now, I don't (think) I have that installed . . . should the man page of it still be existent?03:17
LycoNHow do I change my FGLRXINFO from saying I am rendering with Mesa 3D stuff and rendering with my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.  When i do glxgears i get 180 fps.. Plz help03:17
eruinqcompson: if you're talking corrupted text in xchat, then yes03:17
|QuaD-MMond: then apt-get install screen03:17
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MMondHeheh, I should really start trying out stuff before asking stupid questions :o  - screen man, at least, is available03:17
MMondGot it, thanks03:17
djm62MMond: did you type "screen" and nothing happened?03:18
RustyShacklefordIt didn't work MMond.03:18
LycoNHow do I change my FGLRXINFO from saying I am rendering with Mesa 3D stuff and rendering with my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.  When i do glxgears i get 180 fps.. Plz help03:18
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MMondman screen, I meant . . . and it worked03:18
ChunderButterhey03:18
ChunderButterI'm up and runing Ubuntu :)03:18
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MMondAnd just typed screen as well . . . I've got it. sorry for the stupid questioning on my part :x03:18
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djm62:-D03:19
qcompsoneruin: actually, full system freeze, but mouse moves03:19
MMondO . . . kay. So . . . uhh, I typed "screen" and just gave me some legal notices . . . and I'm back to normality?03:19
rmilunsi hope after several hours more,i will install stupid modem03:19
kingsleyEpson's technical support said my print might start printing cyan again if I replaced a competitor's BLACK cartridge with one of theirs. It didn't. Now black doesn't print either!03:19
MMondI do have tabs opened . . . now should I hit my road to man screen?03:19
slezhave ubuntu irissi?03:19
kingsleyI've have three Epson printers in about as many years and suspect I should consider switching vendors.03:19
MaCaDeQuestion: does yaboot on the Mac/PowerPC work the same way as lilo on the PC/i386, in that you need to run it every time you make a change to the kernel or initrd?03:19
ObsidiansWhen I try to do "apt-get install build-essential" it says "Need to get 0B/2562kB of archives." and then gets to "0% [Working] " and then doesn't do anything. I need to install that package, what do I do?03:19
eruinqcompson: oh, you might wanna search nvnews.com for that - I'm sure I saw a fix for it over there03:20
djm62slez: apt-cache search irssi says...03:20
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eruinyou want irssi-text03:20
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SkyNethello just installed ubuntu just wanted to say VERY good work..03:20
djm62...what eruin says03:20
elisis it possible to copy all settings/options from one user profile to another?03:20
RustyShacklefordHow do I get GKrellM03:21
SkyNetmost user friendly linux i have ever seen03:21
elisi've just created a new user and i want to copy all the settings over so i can delete the old user03:21
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slezthis - irssi-snapshot - The irssi IRC client (Development version) ?03:21
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SeamusLPSkyNet:  We're just the peons who help people.  I think you want ubuntu-dev or something :)03:21
djm62elis: tar -czvf oldhome.tgz ~/.*03:22
nickrudObsidians: have you tried synaptic?03:22
LycoNHow do I change my FGLRXINFO from saying I am rendering with Mesa 3D stuff and rendering with my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro.  When i do glxgears i get 180 fps.. Plz help03:22
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Obsidiansnickrud: Yep. It just hangs at 0% as well. I think that it thinks it's already downloaded it, or something, when really it hasn't. It says 0/2555kb to download, but then doesn't do anythign.03:23
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elisdjm62: forgive me newbieness, but what exactly does that command do?03:23
thanatosyshey hey hey everyone03:23
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Obsidiansnickrud: I also tried apt-get clean, but that didn't help.03:23
thanatosyshmm interesting about the mouse03:23
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djm62elis: oh, sorry....that would create a tar file (archive) of all of your files starting with . (configuration files)03:24
thanatosysdoes anyone have an ipod03:24
thanatosys?03:24
thanatosyswith an fm transmitter03:24
djm62elis: which you could then unpack in your new $HOME with tar -xzvf oldhome.tgz03:24
nickruddoes apt-get install anything?  (like apt-get install gkrellm)03:25
djm62nickrud: yes03:25
djm62nickrud: the extent to which it gets set up for ubuntu depends on the repository...official stuff works better03:25
SeamusLPnickrud:  The command does not lie03:25
RustyShacklefordIt won't install gkrellm for me.  It says it cannot find the file.03:25
nickrudcommand line feedback can obfuscate, though )03:26
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nickrudgkrellm's in the universe repository03:27
SeamusLPRusty you should probably add Universe Multiverse to your repository list03:27
SeamusLPIt's a generally good idea for installing anything useful03:27
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djm62so, are there no official/semi-official ubuntu people here?03:28
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nickrudwhat I'd do (since my internet is fast) is cd /var/cache/apt/archives and rm -r *, and try installing again.03:28
SeamusLPdjm62:  Like I said, we're the peons :)03:28
pvoceneed some help with print03:28
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djm62I guess if there were people being _paid_ to mooch around on IRC the peons would start grumbling ;)03:29
senator32how can i get plug and play flash drives to work in unbuntu03:29
njansenator32, they should work already.03:29
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djm62senator32: have you tried just sticking it in?03:29
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senator32yea ill try again03:30
senator32one sec03:30
SeamusLPdjm62 heh I think the closest you'll get here are the ubuntu-motu people, the universe/multiverse package maintainers.03:30
djm62darkaudit: how's your bios battery?03:30
MMondI am entirely confused now . . . give a few starting pointers. I typed bluntly "screen" and I'm back to normal gnome-terminal . . . what do I want to do now? I was suggested to use this . . . but kinda confused what it'll achieve me03:30
darkauditdjm62: brand new mobo...03:30
pvoceI keep getting the /dev/lp0: permission denied error.....I ve checked the permissions, but I cant figure which is enedeng access..foomatic?  Cups? User?03:30
djm62MMond: type ctrl-a ctrl-h for a guide to commands03:30
njanelis, if you literally want to clone the user, you could just rename the /home folder and then change the permissions on it so the new user can access all the files..03:30
senator32well where does it mount the plug and play devices03:30
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darkauditbut it is an Athlon XP 2500+ running as a 3200+03:31
senator32in other versions it puts the icon on the desktop03:31
RustyShackleford"what I'd do (since my internet is fast) is cd /var/cache/apt/archives and rm -r *, and try installing again."  Was that directed at me?03:31
njanelis, mv /home/OLDUSER /home/NEWUSER && chown -r NEWUSER /home/NEWUSER03:31
senator32(other linux distros that is)03:31
nickrudno, no!03:31
huawhen i install software from unofficial repositor, she told me unauthenticated packages. can i choice continue anyway03:31
djm62MMond: screen is running, it's just unobtrusive...03:31
MaCaDeMMond: with 'screen' you can have several terminals within one, you're actually in screen now even if you can't see it - type ctrl-a h for help03:31
MMonddjm62: At blung normal gnome-screen?03:31
MMondAlright03:31
MMondblunt*03:31
djm62MMond: it's running...you just don't realise03:31
RustyShacklefordDamn, I did it.03:31
darkauditdjm62: would running powernowd on a desktop machine be an issue at all?03:31
senator32abyone....where does ubuntu mount the plug and play flash drives so that I can access the information03:32
nickrudyou need to update your repository so you can get the good stuff,03:32
MaCaDeMMond: for gnome-temrinal i'd just open another window instead of using screen, though.. unless you want to be able to detach a terminal session, log off, then reattach it when logging on. that's only possible with screen.03:32
SeamusLPMMond:  Try the antidesktop http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/581/03:32
elisthanks so much djm62 and njan. will have a go now03:32
eruindark: no, it's justnot work ;)03:32
eruinit'd*03:32
pvocesneator: try /mnt03:32
djm62senator32: ISTR it's /media/03:32
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ObsidiansWhat's the easiest way to burn an ISO from Ubuntu?03:32
RustyShacklefordHow do I add Universe Multiverse to my repository.03:32
senator32ill look03:32
nickrudtry inside synaptic, settings->repositories->add->Community maintained03:33
djm62Obsidians: navigate to the ISO with the normal file manager, right-click on it03:33
MMondI tried hitting Ctrl + A and Ctrl + H . . . nothing happens, and it's acting weird now. Do I essentially treat it and give commands as I would to gnome-terminal at its normal state?03:33
SeamusLPMMond I think it has some decent info on screen.  I don't think you'll want to use ratpoison, though :)03:33
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senator32its not mounted in /media03:34
djm62SeamusLP: do you know if the key commands in gnome and screen conflict?03:34
MMondHeh.. I'm lost, what are you talking about?03:34
SeamusLPdjm62:  I've used it before in gnome, never had any conflicts.03:35
MMondI'm gonna go google and try and see if I can get some very basic stuff to clear out my crazy ideas and go at it fresh again. thanks though03:36
djm62MMond: I'm sorry: I lied to you: press ctrl-a ? to get the commands03:36
elisnjan: will  cp /home/OLDUSER /home/NEWUSER && chown -r NEWUSER /home/NEWUSER work just as well?03:36
SeamusLPdjm62 ctrl-a could be a problem I suppose, but when I (or my roommate who just asked) used it under gnome we never had a problem03:36
senator32anybody know how to get the plug and play drives installed and mounted03:36
senator32i still cant see it03:36
MaCaDeMMond: woops. yes, it's ctrl-a ? (i copied the wrong info)03:36
MMonddjm62: "Ctrl + A + ?" exactly then? Those three keys?03:36
MaCaDeMMond: first hold down CTRL and type A, then release CTRL and type ?03:37
djm62MMond: ctrl and A at the same time, then ?  (that key above /)03:37
senator32do i have to command line mount the flash drive?03:37
djm62senator32: you shouldn't have to03:37
senator32i figured03:37
MMondGot that working . . .03:37
jawshDoes anyone know how to get rid of the mystery tritech tr28602 that keeps reappearing in OSS despite the fact that I don't actually have one of these cards? I can03:37
senator32how03:37
djm62senator32: have you tried the Places menu?03:38
senator32no03:38
jawshI can't get jack to work since it is stealing a slot03:38
senator32places menu03:38
senator32hmm03:38
senator32where is the places menu03:38
RustyShacklefordSo I create a new repository.  What URl, distribution, and sections?  Binary or source?03:38
djm62at the top of the screen towards the left03:39
djm622nd from the left03:39
senator32what03:39
MaCaDeMMond: now you can create new terminal sessions with Ctrl-A C, and switch between them with Ctrl-A P (previous) and Ctrl-A N (next).03:39
senator32oh im running kde03:39
djm62jawsh: is it a winmodem?03:39
noxlordAnyone know how to switch to runlevel 3 ? the standart command "init 3" does not work.03:39
djm62senator32: are you running kubuntu? or ubuntu-with-kde?03:39
MMondOkay . . . so it's a more . . . "diverse" (although still not quite right the word it is) terminal? I can do several things at once -- with lots of keyboard short cuts? For example.. while I have irssi open . . . I can go about another keyboard shortcut-- and within the same terminal, do another thing?03:39
senator32ubuntu with kde03:39
nickrudfor now, turn off all the source, and turn on everything eles.03:39
MaCaDeMMond: kind of like that, yes. screen is basically a windowing system that works without windows.03:40
MaCaDeMMond: you can even use it on bare terminal screens, you do not need any graphical interface.03:40
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MMondMaCaDe: Sorry to be bringing irssi in this so much . . . but, so it is very alike irssi then . . . for example, going through different channels by pressing Ctrl + P (not even sure if that is the correct shortcut.. but whatever it is, that toggles through channel windows..)03:41
djm62senator32: if I were you, I'd attach an icon to the mount command and stick it on a toolbar03:41
senator32k03:41
MaCaDeMMond: a big advantage is that you can detach a session (Ctrl-A D), then log off, then return to the session later with "screen -r".03:41
djm62senator32: or possibly kubuntu has a more integrated KDE HAL03:41
senator32i may just install kbuntu03:41
senator32is it as nice as unbunti03:41
senator32*unbuntu03:41
MaCaDeMMond: that's ok, i'm not familiar with irssi, but it's nice to know a program that works in a similar way.03:42
senator32*ubuntu03:42
senator32god03:42
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tweekhello?03:42
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noxlordyo03:42
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MMondA more random question: (I'll back on topic after a sec here) the virtual terminals . . . do they all interconnect real-time? I mean . . . can I essentially copy and paste stuff through them? (an odd example.. but should do for now)03:42
MMondMaCaDe: irssi the IRC client.. I always thought it was the most prominent Linux IRC client . . . I don't know, maybe BX works that way as well . . .03:43
tweekim still having trouble with my onboard soundcard, is there anything else i can do?03:43
senator32djm62 : thanks for youre help im downloading kbuntu03:43
djm62senator32: I couldn't tell you, about kubuntu, but I think it would be better-integrated03:43
abarbacciahey, how do i change the icons in the menu's?  i installed thunderbird and the icons are not showing up03:43
RustyShacklefordI've got it.  Did I cause any damages by doing this "cd /var/cache/apt/archives and rm -r *"03:44
eruinhttp://appelsinjuice.org/rb9.png <-- now that's the shit ;)03:44
astro76senator32: you can install it from ubuntu, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:44
senator32djm62 i was just interested wetehr or not it had the "portage-ish" install system03:44
senator32oh03:44
senator32thx03:44
MMond<MaCaDe> MMond: now you can create new terminal sessions with Ctrl-A C, and switch between them with Ctrl-A P (previous) and Ctrl-A N (next).   <-- can I close them with just a "exit" normal exit at one03:45
nickrudnot really, that's were ubuntu keeps  debs you've downloaded. You just need to download them again if you ever reinstall.03:45
huahow can i listen internet radio03:45
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SeamusLPhua:  Have you tried rhythmbox?03:45
senator32djm62 ok another question, i realize that i can use sudo, but is there a way to actually log on as root03:45
senator32?03:45
rmilunsenator32,yes,i am using a root03:46
djm62senator: sudo passwd, and set a root passwd03:46
rmilunit works03:46
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RustyShacklefordO.K. I downloaded and installed GKrewl, so where will it be.  I can't find it in the Menu.03:46
senator32awsome03:46
djm62rmilun: are you fixed now?03:46
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huaSeamusLP: let me try it03:46
djm62senator32: anything debian-ish has the good good install system03:47
nickrudubuntu doen't put a lot of universe stuff in it's menu. install menu & menu-xdg, and you'll get the debian menu, it has everything:)03:47
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SeamusLPhua you may have to get the gstreamer0-mad package from apt. Gives you support for more music types03:47
senator32thanks all03:47
senator32i had used many distros of linux i was just new to ubuntu and im loving it03:48
pvoceARRGGHHH03:48
rmiluni am new,i installed ubuntu today,i am trying to set up my modem for couple of hours now....i am not so happy,in slackware it took about minute or so :)03:49
rmilunso senator32,consider yourself lucky :)03:49
huaSeamusLP: i have installed rhythmbox and gstreamer0-mad, how can i start it03:49
pvocewhich user neds acess to the /dev/lp0 file so I can print????03:49
djm62only takes one bit of hardware to make it all go tits-up :-/03:49
MaCaDeMMond: sorry, got distracted. Yes, you can close them with 'exit' after creating them with Ctrl-A C.03:49
|QuaD-anyone know when breezy's sync with sid will resume?03:50
senator32thx all03:50
abarbacciahey, anybody know how to get into the menu editor?  to add new programs to menus?03:50
SeamusLPhua applications - > sound and video -> Music Player03:50
tweekjust drag the icon03:50
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tweekof the launcher03:50
SeamusLPClick on radio on the side... you may want to look for shoutcast servers03:50
abarbacciatweek, its more of being able to change the icons in the menu's03:50
tweeko,03:51
tweektry a theme?03:51
MMondMaCaDe: Got it . . . thanks. Still kinda unfamiliar with this . . . but I'll try using it for the next few days 'til I get familiar with this.. I think this is what I wanted03:51
MaCaDeMMond: try reading the screen manual page (man screen).. all the info is in there.03:51
MMondMaCaDe: And I almost am where I thought I never would be . . . going at it with complete CLI03:51
tweekdoes anyone know how to manually configure a sound card?03:51
SeamusLPhua you can add a station you've found by going to Music -> New Internet Radio Station03:51
MaCaDeMMond: aha... well, good luck :)03:51
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MMondMaCaDe: I mean.. using my desktop as complete CLI . . . (recently found w3m . . . and I was like :OOOOOOO) everything working pleasently now03:52
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MaCaDeMMond: you can also try booting without any GUI (runlevel 3) and be in total CLI heaven ;)03:53
ZuMMPlease, how can I write in a vfat partiton with a normal user?03:53
RustyShacklefordHow do I install the Debian Menu again?03:53
MMondMaCaDe: How exactly do I do that? Without a click . . . I start off to GUI . . .03:54
djm62MaCaDe: runlevel 3?03:54
crimsunRustyShackleford: install menu and menu-xdg03:54
djm62on debian?03:54
MaCaDedjm62: hmm. i guess not.. sorry, i come straight from slackware :)03:54
darGorthe menu of aplicattions-system, etc is in the left side, how fuck i can put it up again?? im trying' but i can't!03:54
darGorcant move it!03:55
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huaSeamusLP: can you tell me a station , thanks.03:55
djm62MaCaDe: always with the runlevel 2 here03:55
MaCaDedjm62: ok, thanks03:55
crimsundarGor: middle click and drag03:55
SeamusLPhua:  Check out shoutcast03:55
crimsundarGor: (if you don't have a "middle," use primary and secondary simultaneously)03:55
MaCaDeMMond: as root, try typing 'init 2' - system will basically reboot everything but the kernel and you'll get a text login prompt03:55
djm62MaCaDe: 3,4, and 5 are yours to play with as you want03:55
SeamusLPhua: http://www.shoutcast.com/03:55
crimsunargh. Please stop telling people to play runlevel games. Ubuntu, like Debian, treats 2-5 identically.03:56
MaCaDedjm62: ok, thanks03:56
SeamusLPhua:  click on "tune in" when you find a radio station, select rhythmbox to open the playlist03:56
RustyShacklefordIt says menu-xdg is not a directory03:56
darGorcrimsun: yes, appears the hand, but i can't move it, dunno why03:56
natemeh03:56
SeamusLPhua: if it's not in the firefox list you can browse to /usr/bin/ then type in rhythmbox and hit enter03:56
crimsundarGor: make sure you didn't select the Lock option03:56
nateI'm still getting 'bad header line' when I try to do an apt-get install03:56
MMondMaCaDe: Gotcha . . . so then on the 7th virtual terminal, X won't be initiated? If I wanted to -- I could "start x" and be back at normal, right? And is this a one-time thing, or will this reset that as default? If yes, what would I have to do to get back to default as it is now?03:56
nateanyone else getting this?03:56
crimsundarGor: secondary-click and check03:56
darGorcrimsun: thanks i'll check that03:56
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MaCaDeMMond: one-time thing.. not sure how to make it the default under debian/ubuntu, maybe someone else here knows.03:57
crimsunMaCaDe: (the above was addressed to you RE: runlevels)03:57
djm62MMond: ubuntu is from a different "family tree" to slackware, and doesn't work like that03:58
MaCaDecrimsun: OK, I stand corrected.03:58
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MaCaDeMMond: please forget what i said :)  can someone please explain to MMond how he boots in text-only mode?03:58
darGorcrimsun: not locked.. dunno why i can't move it. it's big big in the left side. i want it up and llitle, by defect.. but tryng to move and nothing03:58
crimsunMMond: there are a few ways to not start gdm|kdm on startup - try, for instance, renaming the /etc/rc2.d/*gdm symlink, or use update-rc.d, or change the default display manager, or ...03:59
RustyShacklefordWhere do I enter install menu and menu-xdg at?03:59
djm62what is the non-kludgy way to do it?03:59
djm62update-rc.d :)03:59
nickrudrusty - in synaptic again, control-f to search for 'menu'04:00
djm62crimsun: although would "mv /etc/rc2.d/S20gdm /etc/rc2.d/K20gdm" produce a useful "gdm not running" reminder each boot in case he wants to change it back?04:01
crimsundjm62: it'd probably be more useful to simply change /etc/X11/default-display-manager04:01
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darGorcrimsun: it's ok thanks =)04:03
ZuMMPlease, how can set the /etc/fstab to leave normal user write and delete?04:03
RustyShacklefordO.k. there installed.04:05
vs_zachhey04:05
vs_zachi installed a program via dpkg04:05
vs_zachand i want to remove it04:05
vs_zachhow do i do this04:05
djm62dpkg -r package-name04:06
djm62ok?04:07
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chinaskiHi yall04:07
huaSeamusLP: I meet trouble , and  i must reboot my computer. see you.04:08
RustyShacklefordWhat next?04:08
SeamusLPhua:  ooookay04:09
djm620_004:09
nickrudrusty, I just installed it myself, and don't see the menu :) Swore I saw it before the freeze.04:10
nickrudrusty, you should have a debian menu under applications now.04:11
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mikecommm. margaritas04:12
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RustyShacklefordIt does look different.  I see no GKrellM04:13
ChiliDogI have a problem...04:13
ChiliDogI just installed the latest version of Firefox, and now I can't open it.04:13
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nickrudnope, neither do I04:14
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ChiliDogSomeone please help me.04:14
djm62ChiliDog: how did you install it?04:14
ChiliDogI converted the tarball  to a Debian package and installed it via the root terminal.04:14
djm62ChiliDog: do you mean, you can't open firefox, or that you get the older version?04:14
ChiliDogI can't open Firefox.04:15
senator32hey im using smb4k which is a samba based network browser, It browses the network and the from there i can mount drives, i keep getting this error "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts" how can i fix this04:15
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nickrudok this is a useful trick. we know the name of the program, so alt-F2, and enter gkrellm04:15
kalagguys... what's the equivalent of ntsysv (fedora) in ubuntu?04:16
djm62senator32: you can use the command chmod +S `which smbmnt`04:16
crimsunkalag: there is none, though you can read update-rc.d's man page04:16
RustyShacklefordThat opened it.04:16
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djm62senator32: note the "backwards quote marks"04:16
kalagthanks crimsun, i'll try that04:17
djm62(next to the 1 key on my keyboard)04:17
senator32what directory would i use the chmod on.....the network directory?04:17
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senator32or the /mnt ot what04:17
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momSomeone has a good linux FTP server?04:17
djm62senator32: "chmod +S `which smbmnt`"04:17
djm62senator32: just like that04:18
senator32oh ok04:18
ChiliDogEvery time I click on the icon, I get the "Starting Firefox Web Broswer" bar in my taskbar, but then it disappears and Firefox doesn't show up.04:18
BrazmetalDoes someone here use ubuntu hoary final, ADSL through router modem and static local Ip ?04:18
crimsunmom: try vsftpd04:18
delltonyi have a question: never tried this before i have a usb external harddrive how in the heck do i get it to mount? not sure what the /dev is :(04:18
gorilla_mom: try proftpd04:18
djm62ChiliDog: do you need to be running the new firefox?04:18
crimsundelltony: did you try pmount /dev/sda1 ?04:18
delltonyerr sorry usb externel floppy04:18
ChiliDogIt's not essential, no.04:18
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delltonyso pmount /dev/fd maybe?04:18
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crimsundelltony: in that case, what does dmesg tell you regarding the floppy drive?04:19
djm62ChiliDog: you could remove the package and install the default one for the time being04:19
shad0w1ehow do I temporarily disable the automounter?04:19
ChiliDogHow do I do that?04:19
delltonyaww i forgot to check there04:19
delltonyhang on will do04:19
crimsundelltony: if it's usb, it'll use usb storage, so it should appear as /dev/sdXX04:19
senator32it says invaild string '+S04:19
delltonyok let me look at dmesg right fast04:19
senator32got it04:19
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senator32thanks again04:19
senator32small s04:19
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kalagcrimsun: how about /etc/rc.d/rc.local ?04:19
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djm62senator32: sorry...getting old and forgetful04:20
pantzi am having a shit of a time trying to compile a driver for my wireless card - i am a debian newbie - anyone available to help me out for a bit?04:20
vs_zachpeace all04:20
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ChiliDogIt won't let me get into the "Add/Remove Programs" tool.04:20
shad0w1eQUESTION: how do I temporarily disable the automounter?04:20
delltonyit looks like its sda04:20
crimsunkalag: nope.04:20
crimsundelltony: good, so you'd ''pmount /dev/sda1 something,,04:20
djm62ChiliDog: sudo dpkg -r mozilla-firefox&&sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox04:21
tweekpantz04:21
crimsundelltony: and it should appear under /media/something04:21
tweekwhat problems are you having?04:21
delltonynothings under media other than cdrom04:21
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kalagcrimsun: what's the ubuntu way of calling non-init.d scripts during bootup then?04:21
pantztweek, firstly do i need linux-headers-2.6.10-5 package or linux-source package?04:21
tweeksource most likely04:22
pantzi am confused b/n the two04:22
tweeki just go for source04:22
crimsunkalag: man update-rc.d04:22
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pantzok so i install it with synaptic and then unbzip in /usr/src04:22
crimsunkalag: put the script in /etc/init.d/, then use update-rc.d to create the runlevel symlinks04:22
ChiliDogNot working.  It won't let me delete Firefox because of dependencies.04:23
tweeko, if your going thru synaptic just get the binary04:23
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pantzwhich gives me /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.1004:23
djm62ChiliDog: aptitude remove firefox04:23
pantztweek, what is the binary called?04:23
tweeknot sure i will look04:23
ChiliDogI'm missing a library needed to run Aptitude04:23
djm62ChiliDog: apt-get remove firefox?04:24
ChiliDognope.04:24
tweekPantz what type of pcmia card do you have?04:24
delltonycool deal thanks crimsun i learned something today04:24
djm62ChiliDog: did you install via an unusual method?04:24
kalagcrimsun: got it, thanks again04:24
delltonyappreciate it04:24
ChiliDogI just installed Ubuntu a few hours ago, so I can just reformat and try again...  Thanks, though.04:24
pantztweek, well it is actually a ralink rt2500 onboard chipset04:25
tweekok,04:25
crimsundelltony: / kalag: np04:25
djm62ChiliDog: you shouldn't have to do that, but I can't figure out what's happening with your system04:25
pantzthey have open source drivers for it but you need to compile04:25
djm62damn!04:25
tweeki dont see anything for that :|04:25
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huaSeamusLP: I can't open shoutcast, then i try to open virgin radio classic rock. but she told me error could not open vfs file "http://www.smgradio.com/core/audio/ogg/live.pls?service=vcbb" for reading. what's wrong04:25
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tweekA,B, or G system?04:25
pantztweek, g04:26
posithola04:26
djm62damn windows madness04:26
djm62reinstall the whole OS because of a faulty program04:26
tweekpantz you said debian, do you mean ubuntu or debian itself?04:26
pantztweek, there is a sourceforge project with drivers here - http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page04:27
pantztweek, ubuntu - but i guess compiling a module is the same under both?04:27
positthe default ubuntu install has a kernel bootsplash image, right?04:27
tweekyes04:27
tweektry "wireless tools04:27
positI seem to have lost mine, somehow :|04:27
JinxColorhow do you use apt-get to upgrade a specified module?04:27
positany idea how I can reconfigure it?04:27
tweek"wireless-tools"04:27
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pantztweek, i have it installed04:28
tweekok,04:28
tweeklets move on to compileing this driver04:28
pantztweek, how do i try it?04:28
pantzoh ok04:28
pantz:)04:28
tweeklets download it and put it in our /home/pantz folder04:29
tweekextract it to that as well04:29
pantztweek, done04:29
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tweekone second, my download was corrupted ;)04:30
JinxColoranyone, how do you use apt-get to upgrade a specific module?04:30
pantztweek, i took the cvs daily snapshot04:30
pantztweek, apparently the releases are way behind now04:30
tweekok will get that04:30
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djm62hua: do you have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?04:31
RustyShacklefordNick, did you ever find out where gkrellm was located.  I'd like to add an icon for it on my desktop.04:31
|QuaD-is anyone in here a website/email/etc hosting provider and using ubuntu for their servers?04:31
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tweekbrb, pantz hang tight04:31
djm62RustyShackleford: run "which gkrellm" to find out04:32
MaCaDeJinxColor: I'm trying to figure it out and am surprised that the obvious "apt-get upgrade <package-name>" doesn't seem to work.04:32
huadjm62: yes. now i can listen france musiques04:32
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darGorhow to download Flash-Plugin for firefox ???04:32
pantztweek, ok04:32
JinxColorMaCaDe : yes can anyone help us?04:32
mrc3totem, DVD, "Could not read from resource". does it ring any bells to anyone?04:33
djm62RustyShackleford: then you can right-click menu "Create Launcher"04:33
astro76darGor: http://ubuntuguide.org/#flash-mozilla04:33
Coutsoshas anybody managed to get the "rhythmbox applet" to work under ubuntu warty?04:33
tweekok cd /home/pantz/rt-2500-cvs-20050416/module pantz04:34
tweekmake && sudo make install04:34
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Iamhehelp04:34
nickrudRustyShackleford: if you don't know the name dpkg -l | grep bin is your friend :)04:34
IamheI can't Mplayer to install04:34
Iamheit has obsolete dependencies I cannot find04:34
tweeki wish they made lea&perins for sentences :\04:35
darGorastro76; thanks a lot04:35
nickrud dpkg -l <package name>  | grep bin .  doh04:35
djm62tweek: sudan-one included ;)04:35
pantztweek, b4 doing that - what do i need to setup source/header-wise in /usr/src?04:35
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tweeki dont think its nessesary it should install useing the sudo make install command04:36
Iamhehe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:36
Iamhe  mplayer-586: Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is to be installed04:36
Iamhe               Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed04:36
IamheE: Broken packages04:36
IamheI tried to get those packages04:36
tweekuhhh04:36
Iamhebut they are obsolete04:36
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MaCaDeJinxColor: I think 'apt-get install' comes closest.. it upgrades the package in question plus all the dependencies.04:36
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tweekor just google for the packages :\04:37
astro76Iamhe: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer04:37
MaCaDeJinxColor: seems to be no way to upgrade just one package though. <shrug>04:37
pantztweek, ok so i have done that and it is the same as what i have got previously ... ie. no errors - all looks ok04:37
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tweekok, test it out? :|04:37
pantztweek, i would like to paste the output to show you but don't want to spam the channel04:37
tweekwww.rafb.net/paste04:38
JinxColorMaCaDe : thats what I was thinking - when I download a "program" for linux - what should I pick as a distro if debian isn't an option04:38
tweekget source04:38
tweek:\04:38
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JinxColortweek : hmm, I'm noob how do you compile stuff04:38
tweekit depends04:38
SeamusLPJinxColor check the wiki04:39
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tweekbut im thinknig about makeing a newbs guide to it, it stumped the hell out of me when i first tried linux :)04:39
djm62JinxColor: generally, "./configure&&make&&make install"04:39
pantztweek, i pasted there under nick pantz04:39
tweekok04:39
pantztweek, how do you go see it?04:39
JinxColorSeamusLP : ok, want too but where/what is that04:40
tweekok it looks all good04:40
djm62JinxColor: google ubuntu wiki04:40
MaCaDeJinxColor: not sure what you mean - are you asking for suggestions for another distro to switch to?04:40
SeamusLPJinxColor:  Check it out, the wiki has a lot of great howto guides.  http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org04:40
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pharaonic_anubisDoes ubuntu have builtin support for .rar archives?04:40
pantztweek, so now i try sudo modprobe rt250004:40
JinxColorSeamusLP : thank you ! and djm62  you too04:40
tweektry try :)04:40
pantzpantz@arwen:~/rt2500-cvs-20050416/Module$ sudo modprobe rt250004:41
pantzFATAL: Module rt2500 not found.04:41
JinxColorMaCaDe : no no, don't worry the others helped me04:41
SysFailno it doesnt...and I found out the rar in synaptic wont do alot of files04:41
tweeki cant help you much now i have no wireless to help you :\04:41
SysFaili had to run winrar in wine04:41
djm62pharaonic_anubis: no...you can run winrar under wine04:41
djm62why is rar so badly supported?04:41
tweekuhh04:41
SysFailwish i knew04:41
tweekits suppoerted great04:41
pantztweek, why would modprobe not find it?04:41
tweekIMO04:41
MaCaDeJinxColor: maybe another way is to manually download the .deb in question, then use "dpkg --force-depend --install package.deb"04:41
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tweekim not sure pantz :\04:41
SeamusLPdjm62:  The rar package is perfect, in multiverse I believe04:41
pharaonic_anubiswinrar under wine huh? sheesh... might as well just be running XP right now.04:41
SysFailits only managed to unrar about half the files ive used04:42
SeamusLPdjm62:  It's shareware but it integrates nicely with fileroller04:42
djm62SeamusLP: why isn't there a FLOSS thing though?04:42
SeamusLPdjm62: oh there is, but it sucks04:42
SmevenI am attempting to get my wpc54g wireless card, it claims the driver is acx (acx111), when i insert the pcmcia card it attempts to load the driver and create the device, but it only produces errors.04:42
pantztweek, so you think from my output that it has compiled correctly and i have correctly done all that you can help me with ?04:43
djm62SeamusLP: for me, that counts as "badly supported": is there something especially difficult about rar files?04:43
tweekpantz it appears as tho it should work04:43
SeamusLPdjm62:  It's proprietary?  I mean it's shareware but I don't think it's going to bug you04:43
tweeki will read more documentation04:43
tweekone moment04:43
pharaonic_anubisGetting cedega to actually run alot of stuff is ridiculously difficult.04:44
SeamusLPdjm62:  The main problem with the free unrar is that it doesn't support rar 3.004:44
djm62SeamusLP: so rar files are closed formats?04:44
pantztweek, am i right in trying to do modprobe rt2500?04:44
tweeki dont know, try running "rt2500" and see if that is a command04:45
SeamusLPdjm62 Yeah I'm pretty sure.... I mean I use the shareware... maybe I'll pay for it one day, heh.04:45
crimsunSeamusLP: you can install rar from multiverse04:45
pharaonic_anubisrar-2.8004:46
SeamusLPcrimsun: yes I know :)04:46
SysFailnot 3.0 though04:46
Phoenix_Awaydoes anyone here have experience getting a UT2004 dedicated server running?04:46
crimsun3.30-2 0 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages04:46
Phoenix_AwayIm absolutely losing my mind04:46
tweeki sell spare minds!04:46
djm62pharaonic_anubis: are you using commercial or CVS cedega04:46
Phoenix_Awaytweek: how much?04:47
SysFailhmmm ill look after this dvd finishes burning crimsun04:47
tweekuhhh04:47
crimsunSysFail: it's also 3.30-2 in Hoary.04:47
SysFaildidnt know 3 was in there04:47
pantztweek, nope - anyhoo -thanks heaps for your time - i will join the sourceforge project mailing list i think04:47
tweeka G5 mac04:47
crimsunSysFail: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/utils/rar04:47
tweeknp pantz04:47
tweekgood luck04:47
pantztweek, thanks - i think i'm gonna need it04:47
pantz:)04:47
tweek:)04:47
mikecohrm04:47
noodle_any have any luck with ibook G4 and sleep?04:47
tweekbrb.04:48
mikecoafter  much effort, it seems fglrx doesn't work with composite, so back to nvidia we go04:48
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huaI can open www.shoutcast.com in rhythbox , but it's no sound.04:50
SysFaili cant understand ppls attraction to rhythmbox04:51
^thehatsrule^xmms!04:51
crimsunSysFail: choice is a good thing :)04:51
SysFailxmms is only 100x better04:51
djm62SysFail: when it works, it's good04:51
^thehatsrule^is that RAR from rarlabs/rarsoft?04:51
crimsun^thehatsrule^: yes04:51
SysFailyup...never anything wrong with choice04:51
^thehatsrule^ah, thought it was a trial heh04:51
SysFailheh04:51
crimsun^thehatsrule^: (it doesn't expire, if that's what you're getting at :)04:52
^thehatsrule^ah so a free trial! nice04:52
^thehatsrule^i packaged one for DSL... so i was just making sure04:52
^thehatsrule^theres only a restriction on sfx's tho i think04:53
kassetraI switched from xmms to bmp, just recently though... got tired of the really bad fonts and no gtk2 integration...04:53
^thehatsrule^xmms looks great imo04:53
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mikecoyeah, but has only a playlist04:54
crimsunxmms plugins can be used with libxmms04:54
mikecoit's nice to have something to organize things nicely04:54
djm62is there a package that can identify mp3s/oggs similar to cddb?04:54
darkauditdjm62: you can do it through Juk or amaroK, but libtunepimp-bin needs to be rebuilt... it was packaged without mp3 support04:55
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darkauditsudo apt-built --reinstall install libtunepimp-bin04:55
crimsundarkaudit: same reason gstreamer0.8-mad is in universe and not main.04:55
huaI sucess. I go to www.shoutcast.com via firefox , then tune in , I can hear the music. It's very  cool. Thanks SeamusLP and djm62.04:56
fishheadman that was bad acting, dylan looked like he was trying to take a bad s**t not wake up04:56
kassetrabmp = xmms, only on gtk2... which means I've just about eliminated any need for gtk104:56
darkauditif you get an error at the end about --force-yes, go into synaptic and the new packages will be there to install04:56
SeamusLPhua:  Any time man04:56
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JinxColorsi04:57
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djm62darkaudit: ach...it's only a convenience thing...I'll wait for it to hit $favourite_music_player04:57
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Zotnixxmms2 is coming out which will have several frontends04:58
ZotnixOops. wrong channel04:58
darkauditdjm62: it's why I stuck with XP as long as I did... musicmatch and media player (unclean!) did a much better job at identifying my mp3's04:59
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djm62the filenames are descriptive enough, most stuff I just re-ripped anyway05:00
tweekdoes anyone have some free time and insight to getting an ac97 based sound card to work?05:00
crimsunI'd like to see vorbisgain support added to sound juicer, so I should whip up a patch05:00
djm62just to savour my newfound disk space (and indeed the fact I have a CD drive for the first time)05:01
crimsuntweek: shoot05:01
Marble2Can someone help me out? I've searched around on the forums and I can't find anything. How can I get my MX500 to work like it does in windows, i.e I can hold in mouse3 for scrolling in firefox, etc05:01
Marble2use mouse4 and 5 for back and forward05:01
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tweekCrimsun, my sound works when i login it plays the sounds. but when i goto play say openglad it fails to start saying it cant find a working sound device05:02
crimsuntweek: cat /proc/asound/cards05:02
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djm62Marble2: the firefox scrolling thing is an option in menu Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Browsing05:02
tweekneed the output?05:02
djm62Marble2: the forward/back thing I've never heard of, I'm afraid05:03
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crimsuntweek: either #flood or http://pastebin.com05:03
falkrynhello everyone, is there a way of using the livecd as an installer?  (ppc platform)05:03
Marble2holy crap05:03
Marble2I thought that was a mouse thing05:03
crimsunfalkryn: not yet, though it's being worked on05:03
Marble2you've never heard of the back and forward though?05:03
tweekhttp://pastebin.com/27225405:03
falkrynah, ok.  thanks05:03
tweek@ Crimsun05:03
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djm62Marble2: middle-button is conventionally paste on X window system05:04
crimsuntweek: ok, sec.05:04
chaotic_linuxi need help to install sinek05:04
djm62Marble2: backspace is set to back (at least on my ubuntu)05:04
crimsuntweek: ok, now please paste the output of ,,amixer''05:05
crimsuntweek: (onto pastebin)05:05
Marble2hm05:05
Marble2okay05:05
tweekhttp://pastebin.com/272257 @crimsun05:06
chaotic_linuxi need help to install sinek05:06
delltonyhey crimsun curious you know where i would find a really great tutorial on setting up a cough cough linmodem (ltmodem) ?  i have looked here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6361.html with no luck.  See i'm wanting to give this computer to my aunt but me personally i haven't used modems in ages.05:06
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crimsundelltony: I'm afraid I don't know offhand, sorry, but resourceful use of search engines would benefit. :)05:07
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LycoNCan someone please tell me why when i type nc -l -p 80 -vv it tells me permission denie05:07
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tweekbecause your not root?05:07
LycoNshit05:08
LycoNur right05:08
tweeklol05:08
tweek:|05:08
LycoNii thought i was in Rterminal05:08
delltonyyeah been searching for sure. ill keep trying thanks again05:08
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chaotic_linuxi need help to install sinek05:09
LycoNif i run a script on one terminal then listen on the port on another terminal will i find ne thing05:10
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majicI've had 5.04 on my machine for a week and my update manager is still saying there are no updates. Are there really no updates? (I find that very strange if true)05:12
Burgundaviamajic, that is true05:12
djm62majic: yep...it's ok for now05:12
majicweird05:12
Burgundaviamajic, hoary is now only getting security and major bugfixes05:12
majicok05:13
nickruddidn't ubuntu-artwork update?05:13
majicI figured there would be an update for Firefox05:13
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majicnickrud, not for me05:13
NotANickdelltony: dl the latest drivers from http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/kernel-2.6/05:13
tweekCrimsun find any breaking developments?05:14
LycoNHow do u send a carriage on netcat?05:14
kassetrahey tweek - have you run gst-register-0.8 in a terminal yet?05:14
NotANickdelltony: use synaptic install: linux-headers, and build-essential05:14
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Kamping_Kaiserwhat can i use for watching tv direct through a capture card, not a vcr?05:14
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NotANickdelltony: then compile the drivers05:14
majicshouldn't I get a preferences dialog when clicking the preferences button in the update manager? It seems to do a reload instead of giving me the preferences dialog05:14
tweekno i hav'nt kassetra will try now05:15
kassetratweek - that will probably fix your problem.  :)05:15
NotANickdelltony: then sudo modprobe -v ltserial to load the module05:15
tweeklets hope so :)05:15
LycoNnotanick:05:15
NotANick?05:15
kassetratweek - if not, I can walk you through getting it fixed.05:15
crimsuntweek: sorry, kinda busy at the moment, but others should be around to assist :)05:15
LycoNit is easier if u jsut type sudo apt-get install build-essential05:15
tweekalright, il test it brb.05:15
LycoNand sudo apt-get install linux-header05:16
nickrudright about Tue, 2005-04-12 at 22:27 +0100, I was writing an eail when the change dropped into incoming05:16
LycoNso much easier05:16
LycoNCan anyone tell me how to send a carriage on NetCat?05:16
tweekKassetra would that require a restart to take effect?05:17
stevenjquestion about playing mps3 -- to play mp3s do I need xmms and xmms-mad?05:17
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LycoNtweek most likely yes05:17
tweekok,05:18
_javier_Hello World !!!05:18
LycoNHOW DO U SEND A CARRIAGE USING NETCAT someone in here must kno how05:18
pantztweek, back again - i thought i might try ndiswrapper - do you know what i need to do once i have synaptic-ed ndiswrapper-source and ndiswrapper-utils?05:18
majicwhy isn't PHP 5 in the universe repo?05:18
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LycoNpantz: did you download them05:19
pantzLycoN, i installed them with apt-get05:19
nickrudwas updated at the same time mozilla-firefox-locale-all05:19
kassetratweek - no.05:19
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LycoNthen your done05:19
pantzoh ok05:19
pantz:)05:19
LycoNman i need some super help05:19
LycoNbut no one can help me05:20
pantzLycoN, super as in ...05:20
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kassetratweek - you didn't need to restart.05:20
phxguyCan Someone pint me to a good How-To on recompiling the kernel in Ubuntu05:20
tweek:\05:20
LycoNsomeone that knows how to send a carriage using netcat05:20
phxguypoint i mean05:20
gratuitis there any easy way to back up my entire root directory to dvd? (it's less than 4.7 GB)05:20
kassetratweek - you say you have an ac97, correct?05:21
tweekthat didnt solve it :\05:21
tweekac97 based card05:21
kassetraHoary or Warty?05:21
tweekHoary05:21
gratuitI want to be able to simply put a HD in the computer, and copy my root partition over...05:21
stevenjsomeone must know if xmms-mad is what gives the ability to play mp3s?05:21
tweekyes05:21
tweekit is05:21
LycoNsudo apt-get install xmms-mad?05:21
pantzLycoN, oh that's easy - unfortunately i have to go and hang out the washing - for the next 10 hours so i can't help ya05:22
phxguyI have that same Card in Hoary and Xmms work okay05:22
tweekyes or use the packedge manager05:22
LycoNpantz05:22
kassetratweek - ok.  Let me get you some instructions.05:22
pantzLycoN,05:22
tweekok.05:22
stevenjthanks -- it was called xmms-mp3 in fedora sO i was just wondering05:22
LycoNhow easy is it?05:22
kassetratweek - alsa sounds like poo with the ac97, so you have to convert to esd completely.05:22
pantz:) i am talking crap - i can05:22
pantz't really help ya05:22
LycoNhaha05:22
LycoNthanks05:22
tweekid be greatfull for any sound :)05:22
LycoN=)05:23
crimsunstevenj: no05:23
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crimsunstevenj: xmms and beep-media-player both already contain a modified mpg123 library allowing them to play mp3s05:23
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crimsunstevenj: xmms-mad is simply another mp3 decoder library05:24
revelaterwhoever was helping me out before: yse it looks like gnucash will fill at least part if not all of the problem05:24
LycoNafter unpacking xmms how do i play mp3s?05:24
tweekopen with them with xmms05:24
crimsunLycoN: either drag them onto the player, or use the playlist/load functions05:24
LycoNok05:24
stevenjcrimsun, I see..I see...I have not installed xmms yet...thanks for the info05:25
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LycoNman thats sweet05:25
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LycoNwho uses gnucleus here?05:25
LycoNmine freezes after i try to install05:26
bur[n] erno one i know05:26
tweekthats a nifty name :)05:26
LycoNwat p2p u guys use?05:26
tweeknone05:26
LycoNI had limewire pro for a while05:26
tweekpirateing is badzor05:26
bur[n] erwerd05:26
tweek:)05:26
LycoNrofl dude after i found torrents05:26
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mikecoi'm sure he wants p2p for transferring isos of linux05:27
LycoNi havent wasted a penny on anything that i could get off of torrents05:27
tweeko i bet05:27
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bur[n] erisos of linux... i'd say torrents then :)05:27
tweeki have a legal winxp disc somwhere05:27
tweek:O05:27
LycoNi need it05:27
LycoNall i have is linux05:27
bur[n] ertoo bad azureus isn't in hoary or in universe/multiverse05:27
tweekso?05:27
shawn_grimesIs it possible to set up a wireless config on a Ubuntu LiveCD?05:27
crimsuntweek: sorry, just read your pastebin entry.05:27
Quest-MasterAzureus is easy enough to install05:27
LycoNgrub gave me error 2105:28
crimsuntweek: please mute the iec958 mixer element if you're not using the spdif/optical out05:28
mikecowindows doesn't cost much05:28
tweeki dont know how :x05:28
LycoNso i just installed ubuntu over winxp05:28
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mikecobesides, what else do you work for, besides to spend money05:28
LycoNbest thing i ever did05:28
bur[n] erQuest-Master: even easier when you add debian unstable branch to sources :)05:28
crimsuntweek: amixer sset 'IEC958' off05:28
crimsuntweek: or use alsamixer (press 'm' to mute)05:28
Quest-Masterbur[n] er: hehe05:28
tweekthanks05:28
tweekshould it run now?05:28
LycoNdownload paul oakenfold - ready steady go05:29
LycoNnice song05:29
crimsuntweek: (I thought your problem was that you can't hear sound?)05:29
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tweektry some max pensey05:29
tweekmy problem is that no card is detected by games05:29
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tweekor players05:29
LycoNsoundcard or gcard?05:29
tweeksound05:29
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LycoNblows05:30
crimsuntweek: nforce? ok. sec.05:30
tweeksorry if im saying the wrong things :)05:30
LycoNcrimsun: how do u send a carriage thru netcat?05:30
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LycoNcrimsun: do u kno?05:30
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crimsunLycoN: please use a search engine :)05:31
LycoNdude tried05:31
mikecohmm05:31
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LycoNgoogled for hours05:31
LycoNno luck05:31
LycoNill do it again05:31
crimsun0x0D should be a CR05:31
k-otikis nmap working for everyone else ok on 5.04?05:32
darGorto download music, what linux program can i use ???05:32
ablyssk-otik, tried running nmap as sudo?05:32
LycoNdarGor: try Gnucleus05:32
crimsuntweek: what games are giving you those errors?05:32
mikecoodd05:33
shawn_grimesIs it possible to set up a wireless config on a Ubuntu LiveCD?05:33
crimsuntweek: please paste an example error message onto pastebin.com05:33
mikecodvd playback is sketchy05:33
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pantzdarGor, limewire works ok05:33
crimsunmikeco: is DMA enabled?05:33
mikecoyep05:33
mikecothat's why i said "odd"05:33
darGorLycoN: Gnucleus? P2P?  i dont want torrent/emule05:33
pantzcheck ubuntuguide.org for how to set it up05:33
mikecoit didn't do it about an hour ago05:33
LycoNdarGor: it is p2p05:33
darGorpantz: limewire? oki. apt-get install limewire (??)05:33
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stevenjone other (minor) issue I having is the firestarter icon does not seem to be transparent in gnome panel (tray)? any idea how to fix that?05:34
tweekCrimsun one monet i must reinstall a few of them :)05:34
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crimsunmikeco: the kernel will disable DMA if the drive spews related errors05:34
dataw0lfdarGor: limewire isn't included within the repos, you'll have to download the (java) client and install it yourself.05:34
mikecodma is on05:34
mikecoit was playing a movie an hour or so ago05:35
crimsunmikeco: ok, what sort of symptoms?05:35
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tweekhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/VSJKll31.html @ Crimsun05:35
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crimsuntweek: k05:35
mikecothis new dvd, spiderman2 just started glitching05:35
LycoNwas command lets u find the id to kill05:35
ablyssmplayer works great in ubunto05:35
ablyssubuntu05:35
crimsunLycoN: pkill <some app>05:35
Quest-MasterCan the Ubuntu CD ISO be burned to a DVD?05:35
crimsunLycoN: that's probably easier than using ps and then kill05:35
dcravendarGor, if you want Limewire --> http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire05:36
k-otikablyss it workin ok i suppose just takes long time and i get false-positives. (everyport "open")05:36
darGordataw0lf: oki thanks, will download java first.05:36
membreyaquick question for the breezy guys, the Breezy Changes mailig list is only for any changes, not for any support correct?05:36
crimsuntweek: unfortunately that error is very vague; it can mean the device it tried to open blocked, or none exists, or ...05:36
ablyssk-otik, good05:36
mikecowtf05:36
LycoNwell it wont kill05:36
membreyatweek: how'd you go with your sound?05:36
Quest-MasterOr is there an Ubuntu DVD image?05:36
mikecowhy is ide-scsi loaded05:36
mikecothat's about deprecated05:36
crimsuntweek: please pgrep esd05:37
tweekits getting there me thinks :O05:37
BurgundaviaQuest-Master, there is a dvd iso05:37
tweek705705:37
Burgundaviamembreya, coorect05:37
dcravenmembreya, correct.05:37
Burgundaviamembreya, support is ubuntu-users05:37
crimsuntweek: excellent.05:38
membreyareally? damn that will get confusing..breezy, hoary and warty all on the one list.05:38
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crimsuntweek: Try this: pkill esd05:38
stevenjwhats the difference in dvd ISO...I just downloaded the 386 ISO and burned to a DVD (just because I ran out of CDRWs)05:38
membreyaas it is I get 150+ emails a day on that list :P05:38
crimsuntweek: then rerun openglad05:38
tweek:DDDDDDDDD05:38
tweekthanks sooo much05:39
senator32im trying to install a WiFI card with a Prism2.x chipset. I am doing ok but i need to know the ubuntu / kbuntu linux source directory so i can install the driver there05:39
andrewskiok, *really* not to be a pain, but has anyone looked into the status of the nvidia freezing?  e.g. is it going to be fixed anytime soon?05:39
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crimsunnp. The symptom is much as I suspected: esd grabbed /dev/dsp (via alsa's oss emulation), which blocked any other applications attempting to access it05:39
Quest-MasterBurgundavia: Can you link me to where I can find those DVD ISOs?05:39
stevenjwhy would there have to be a DVD ISO since the entire Ubuntu will fit on a regular CDRW05:39
tweeki see, maybe make a not of that? for the devs?05:39
membreyaandrewski: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=718305:39
tweeknote*05:39
membreyastevenj: because not all the packages fit on a CD :P05:40
Quest-Masterstevenj: My friend doesn't have any empty CDs, only a few DVDs left over05:40
k-otikis there a way to connect to microsofts terminal service from ubuntu?05:40
skel_homeanyone using amd64 version of Ubuntu 5.04 able to get ethereal to work? it segfaults for me on packet capture05:40
senator32im trying to install a WiFI card with a Prism2.x chipset. I am doing ok but i need to know the ubuntu / kbuntu linux source directory so i can install the driver there05:40
stevenjQuest-Master, you can still burn the regular ISO on a DVD05:40
skel_homeI can analyze and existing traffic dump fine05:40
senator32plz help05:40
andrewskimembreya: is that a bad link or is it just down now?05:40
stevenjQuest-Master, same thing05:40
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membreyaandrewski: works perfectly for me05:40
sayaocould someone please change the firefox icon!!05:41
Quest-Masterstevenj: He'd still like the DVD ISO though05:41
sayaothe current one is just sooooo ugly05:41
dcravensenator32, kernel source typically goes in /usr/src/  if that is what you mean.05:41
crimsunsayao: have you been able to provide one that's ... "less ugly"? :)05:41
stevenjQuest-Master, ok05:41
senator32ill try05:41
BurgundaviaQuest-Master, hmm, thought there were, can't find them05:41
membreyaskel_home: it loads fine on mine (I've just changed to Breezy) ...where abouts is it segfaulting?05:42
sayaocrimsun, yes, just use the default one05:42
Burgundaviasayao, the issue is that mozilla orgs trademark rules05:42
stevenjQuest-Master, like I said I dvd once and then I lost it...gave up searching for it05:42
dcravensayao, you mean the actually Firefox one or the Ubuntu one?05:42
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k-otikis there a way to connect to microsofts terminal service from ubuntu?05:42
crimsunskel_home: please obtain strace; file a bug on bugzilla attaching it05:42
sayaothe actually firefox one05:42
Marble2can someone with success using an MX500 and imwheel getting the thumb buttons to work as back/forward please help?05:42
dcravendcraven, I don't think they are allowed to use the actual one in their binary packages.05:42
Burgundaviasayao, see my comment above. They cannot currently05:42
dcravenerr..sayao I mean.05:42
crimsunsayao: as they,ve stated, it's a rights issue05:43
crimsunthey've^05:43
dcravenmessaged myself...05:43
senator32dcraven i still cant get it to work i am looking for the kernel source directory05:43
sayaohumm.. weird trademark rule05:43
crimsunsenator32: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.10 ?05:43
senator32let me try05:43
crimsunsenator32: what are you attempting to accomplish?05:43
dcravensenator32, the kernel source isn't there by default. I think you need to install linux-source.05:43
senator32install a wifi driver05:43
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Marble2Anyone?05:44
sayaoare you guys sure, it makes no sense? you can ship the product but not the icon?05:44
Burgundaviasayao, not really, but they didn't think it out05:44
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membreyaskel_home: where abouts is ethereal seg faulting???05:44
Burgundaviasayao, they don't want people shipping spyware infested stuff with the ff logo05:44
SiRrUsgood evening05:44
dcravensayao, only "official" Mozilla binaries can use the official icon I beleive.05:44
Burgundaviasayao, and the name actually05:44
senator32im trying to install a WiFI card with a Prism2.x chipset.05:45
membreyahmmm lol how many messages can kmail store before performance starts to get affected??? :P05:45
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crimsunsayao: please see http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/03/msg00006.html05:45
sayaohumm05:45
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senator32crimsun : im trying to install a WiFI card with a Prism2.x chipset.05:45
dcravensenator32, are there native drivers for that chipset or do you need to use ndiswrapper?05:45
membreyamy ubuntu maillig list has 6 and a half thousand messages..just wondering if I should archive some of them ;)05:46
IIIEars_lol05:46
crimsunthank goodness for gmane and lists.u.c05:46
senator32well i cant find the correct .inf file to use ndiswrapper05:46
senator32wont work05:46
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IIIEars_I love Ubuntu! - You guys have made something truely great. :)05:47
senator32so im using the prism2_cs drivers made by someone else05:47
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=== |QuaD- loves ubuntu when it works :)
dcravensenator32, I see a prism2_usb module that is included with the Ubuntu kernel.05:47
skel_homecrimsun: ok I'll get an strace05:48
senator32yea this is a pcmcia card05:48
senator32:(05:48
skel_homemembreya: sorry.. plumbing went nuts05:48
skel_homemembreya: after I click capture05:48
dcravensenator32, I should just be quiet as I don't know about that chipset and I shouldn't steer you in the wrong direction.05:48
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skel_homemembreya: if I load a previous dump everything works peachy.. I can analyze fine05:48
majicin synaptic if I want to go into the repositories dialog it does a reload of them instead bypassing the repo dialog where I'd like to select the which repos show up05:48
senator32i like youe help though05:48
senator32im lost05:48
membreyaskel_home: I'm running amd64..worked perfectly on both hoary and breezy. as crimsun said..use strace on it and find out where it's segfaulting05:49
dcravensenator32, there is also a prism54 module. I'm just stabbin' here.05:49
majicis there a bug?05:49
IIIEars_Hm - really munged synapse trying to add a repository with firestarter in it. - lol05:49
senator32i think i need prism_cs this is the Speedstream 802.11b ss1021 card05:49
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IIIEars_(sheepish grin) can someone bail me out with the right link for correct syntax05:50
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SodeiErm, I have a few questions here. I've been considering getting Linux for quite some time, and even downloaded Fedora Core (sadly, the ISO was corrupt). A friend of mine recommended Ubuntu, but I'm lazy and I'd like to know if Ubuntu prompts for a partition before installation.05:51
kakaltohow do I forcefully unmount a cd drive?05:51
membreyakakalto: umount -r05:51
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kakaltoSodei, yes05:51
IIIEars_A large hammer?05:51
kakaltomembreya, thanks05:51
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kakaltoIIIEars_, sorry, but I'd like to keep it in one piece ;)05:52
SodeiThanks, Kakalto.05:52
membreyahey..maybe after a few years I can start to answer non-rudimentry questions :P05:52
kakaltoSodei, no problem, come again :)05:52
IIIEars_er,  ok but it is fast and works _every_ time.. - lol05:52
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Sodeilarge hammers do keep Pc parts in one piece. One tiny, crushed and useless piece, but still. :P05:52
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mockerDoes Ubuntu not configure a boot partition by default?05:53
crimsunmocker: nope, one /05:53
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DavidH86hey i have a question is ther a rc.local file05:53
DavidH86or a file i can have stuff run at boot05:53
mockercrimsun: Ok, thought I was going crazy during the auto partition screen... :)05:53
kakaltomocker, yes05:54
crimsunDavidH86: nope, create a script, slap it in /etc/init.d/, then read the man page for update-rc.d05:54
k-otikhow the hell do i take a screen shot without presssing the button? (kde)05:54
crimsunk-otik: K button>Graphics>KSnapshot05:54
dcravenDamn.. crimsun beat me to the trigger again.05:54
membreyak-otik: ksnapshot..under multimedia05:54
membreya:P crimsun05:54
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crimsunoh, he asked for without the button05:55
k-otikthanks05:55
membreyacrimsun: I believe he meant the keyboard combo :P05:55
delltonyi have a question. i have a pc that only has a dialup modem on it that i'm trying to get to work. if i need say linux-headers i know if i had a connection i could do apt-get install linux-headers or whatever. how can i save this information to a file (tar) so i can transfer it to another computer (the one that is not working with internet) ?05:56
sayaodoes the lastest ubuntu ships with mono?05:56
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nickruddelltony: look at apt-zip05:56
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membreyadelltony: go to your /var/cache/apt/archives05:56
delltonywell i'm not wanting to install it on this pc only download the package so i can apt-get it on the other computer05:57
delltonyor dpkg -i it whichever05:57
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membreyasudo apt-get -d install package name05:57
dcravenHey cool.. synaptic added a bunch of features today.05:58
dcravenI like it.05:58
delltonyok so use the download only tag gotcha05:58
delltonythen it will be in apt/archives?05:58
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membreyadelltony: that's the one05:58
delltonygood deal thanks and i assume just either tarball it or use the apt-zip method the other guy stated05:59
IMLostexit05:59
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membreyadelltony: just copy it either over the network or to a CD and then when you have it on the other computer do a sudo dpkg -i (packagename.deb)06:00
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delltonyok so that -d downloads it as a .deb file06:00
membreyayes delltony :P06:00
delltonyok that explains it then i can do the rest06:00
delltony:D06:00
delltonythanks live and learn every day06:00
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delltonyone question at a time :p06:00
delltonythanks06:00
membreyanp06:01
nicedreamsanyone know when installing mplayer from the repositories will work again?06:01
crimsunsayao: yes, 1.0.506:01
dcravennicedreams, it's broken?06:01
nicedreamsyea06:01
crimsunnicedreams: it does work, you just have to explicitly pass a version06:01
nicedreamsi've tried on two boxes06:01
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elmayause vlc instead of mplayer06:02
nicedreamscrimsun: pass what version?06:02
crimsunnicedreams: aptitude install mplayer-586=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu606:02
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crimsun(yes, or use vlc ;-)06:02
nicedreamsdamn crimsun...you the man06:03
nicedreamsis there a site that can teach me how to do what you told me?06:03
crimsunnicedreams: there's a man page for apt :)06:04
nicedreamslol...  I mean with the version thing you did.  Or what is that called so I know what to look for?06:04
nicedreamslike I wouldn't have a clue to know how to pull that version number up and then install it06:04
Marble2can someone with success using an MX500 and imwheel getting the thumb buttons to work as back/forward please help?06:04
crimsunnicedreams: in the man page for aptitude, for instance, look at the command line actions section under install06:05
crimsunnicedreams: use it in conjunction with apt-cache policy <package>06:05
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nicedreamsi'm gonna study that right now.  thanks for the help as always crimsun06:06
crimsunnp06:06
MFKROh, one other question: I'm a fan of Fubar2000 and HydraIRC, anyone has a word on if they were compatible through Linux or if I'd have to absolutely use WINE for them to work?06:09
frankI'm trying to create partitions on a disk which also has my   /  partition. qtparted tells me to unmount ALL partitions on that disk. Can I do that?06:09
|QuaD-MFKR: i don't have a clue, but i don't see why you wouldn't just use a linux irc client06:10
astro76frank: I use http://www.sysresccd.org/ for that06:10
MFKRLoyalty, I guess. :P HydraIRC is also pretty sexy, and chat monitoring/URL monitoring is awesome (unless a Linux irc client incorporates that as well).06:11
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bur[n] erMFKR: go bug hydraIRC devs ;)06:11
bur[n] eror just use xchat06:12
mockerMFKR: If you are looking to try something new, irssi is really nice.06:12
mockerText based though.06:12
mockerBut..06:12
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frankastro76: Thanks I was think of using the hoary livecd but your cd might be easier06:12
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mockerIrssi uptime: 40d 13h 44m 45s06:12
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mocker;)06:12
|QuaD-mocker: i restarted my comp last night after about a month :)06:13
mocker|QuaD-: I'm just trying to get my IdleRPG level higher.06:14
|QuaD-idlerpg?06:14
MFKR[00:12]  <bur[n] er> MFKR: go bug hydraIRC devs ;) <- Don't give me ideas, I'll get banned from their forums :P06:14
MFKRidleRPG is the MMORPG where you do nothing at all.06:15
MFKRYou just idle.06:15
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MFKRAnd gain levels by idling.06:15
|QuaD-MFKR: haha... so how do you win?06:15
mocker#idlerpg06:15
^thehatsrule^lol06:15
^thehatsrule^theres idlerpg here too? :P06:15
SeamusLPMFKR:  irc?06:15
nickrudfinally, a game I can play :)06:15
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^thehatsrule^lol06:15
MFKRThere's an IRC version and a web-browser version, I think.06:16
|QuaD-MFKR: LOL06:16
|QuaD-thats like when i used to use a keycounter to count my keystrokes06:16
Kamping_Kaisertherse an idlerpg on austnet06:16
MFKRThe web-browser one reminded me too much of Runescape (IRONY!), so I never really gave a damn about it.06:16
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whieberhello06:17
BrazmetalIs there any way to speed up the shutdown process ?06:17
senator32I have a Siemens ss1021 pcmcia wireless adapter, I have tried to apply the prism2_cs drivers and I have tried to use ndiswrapper with the windows drivers but I can't get the device to work. Can anyone help?06:17
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|QuaD-Brazmetal: push the button on you computer?06:19
Brazmetal|QuaD-, are you kiddin? ehehe :P06:19
SeamusLPSounds valid to me06:20
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NotANicki prefer to remove the power cable from the power supply06:20
MFKRButtons are useless, large blunt objects make a far better shutdown process.06:20
|QuaD-haha06:20
NotANicksame result, more dramatic06:20
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NotANicki rub my socks really rapidly across the carpet for a few mintues and the grab the mobo06:21
SeamusLPHonestly man you don't need to reboot often enough where you worry about how fast your shutdown process is06:21
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nickrudNOtANick: did that once for real.06:21
nickrudAssembling my sinclair zx8006:22
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dukenhi06:23
dukenGtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libsmooth.so",06:24
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dukenwhat's module must to be install ?06:24
NotANicklibsmooth.so06:24
SeamusLPlibsmooth.so06:24
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shad0w1eHi I'm looking for a distro that allows you to get the latest software via their package manager. any suggestions?06:25
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senator32I have a Siemens ss1021 pcmcia wireless adapter, I have tried to apply the prism2_cs drivers and I have tried to use ndiswrapper with the windows drivers but I can't get the device to work. Can anyone help?06:25
BrazmetalWhy, after disabling some services thru rcconf, in the shutdown process, the services are terminated by the system? How, If they are not running ?06:26
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dukensudo apt-get install libsmooth.so06:27
dukenReading package lists... Done06:27
dukenBuilding dependency tree... Done06:27
dukenE: Couldn't find package libsmooth.so06:27
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dukenwhat's packages must to be installed ?06:28
Marble2how can I check how much ram a certain process is using06:28
Marble2uh duken06:28
Marble2it doesn't look like that package is in the repositories06:28
NotANickseamuslp:  python -c 'while 1: __import__(os).fork()'06:29
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bur[n] ershad0w1e: none come to mind :)06:29
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darGorhow to join the menu editor? i dont have it on aplicattions-system tools-menu editor06:29
Marble2duken: you could get an rpm and use alien to convert it06:29
bur[n] erdarGor: www.ubuntuguide.org find 'menu-editor'06:29
nickrudduken: gtk2-engines-smooth06:29
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SeamusLPNotANick not in front of the 00b-nays06:30
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NotANickseamuslp: excellent stress test tool06:30
benz240anyone in here take the MCAT today?06:30
NotANickseamuslp: oops06:30
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NotANickeveryone who is new to gentoo type /clear06:31
benz240awwwwwww gay06:31
bur[n] ergentoo?06:31
benz240damn it06:31
benz240i walked right into that one06:31
dukennickrud, already install06:31
NotANicker...ubuntu06:31
bur[n] er;)06:31
benz240anyone in here take the MCAT?06:31
crimsunyour tailbone gets sore06:32
membreyalol NotANick :P06:32
NotANickbah :P06:32
nickrudduken, try apt-get install --reinstall06:32
dukeni try06:33
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membreyapeople running hoary..are the marillat repo's still the same?06:33
membreyaerm06:34
nickrudhttp://www.debian.org/distrib/packages will find packages files come in; look in the unstable distribution.06:34
membreyabreezy even06:34
membreyadher me06:34
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=== crimsun wonders if SeamusLP went out on Hillsborough tonight
SeamusLPcrimsun:  Whats up on hillsborough?06:35
crimsunSeamusLP: dunno. Food? :)06:35
SeamusLPOh.  I was hoping for something interesting.  Like a bum riot or something.06:35
laszlokcan anyone help with lilo.conf?06:36
camcorderwhat's up?06:36
Marble2laszlok: sure06:36
Marble2what's wrong06:36
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laszloki have mandrake 10.1 on hda1 and ubuntu on hda506:36
Marble2k06:37
membreyaSeamusLP: a bum riot? what's that..like 2 grunts and then "nah screw it"06:37
laszloki haven't been able to get ubuntu to work on lilo because the image isn't in the same partition06:37
SeamusLPmembreya:  I dunno.  I think it could happen, there are a lot of bums on hillsborough street06:37
membreyaif they're motivated enough to riot, they're motivated enough to get a job :P06:38
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SeamusLPcrimsun:  You go to NCSU by any chance?06:38
ablysscopy the image to the correct partition06:38
membreyamaybe in the postal service...06:38
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crimsunSeamusLP: nah, I'm a tarheel alumnus06:38
NotANickboo heels06:38
i3dmaste1ubuntu is using nano as the default editor for crontab and visudo, how to change it to vi?06:38
crimsunNotANick: :p06:38
NotANickw0lfp4ck for life :P06:38
laszlokand it will still boot to hda5?06:38
SeamusLPDuke sucks06:38
ablysswhat is hda5?06:39
ablyssubuntu?06:39
laszlokubuntu06:39
nickrudi3dmaste1: sudo update-alternatives --config editor06:39
robitaillei3dmaste1:  set environment variable EDITOR  to whatever you want before contab or visudo06:39
crimsunSeamusLP: are you in ncsulug as well?06:39
ablyssin lilo, use the advance tab to point to ubuntus image06:40
i3dmaste1robitaille: I see. thanks!06:40
ablyssyou have to copy that mess to the hd that is hosting lilo06:40
SeamusLPcrimsun:  I've been to a few meetings06:40
ablyssi went ahead and copied ubuntu models too..06:40
crimsunSeamusLP: cool. Try and catch a TriLUG meeting, too.06:40
SeamusLPcrimsun:  Yeah never been to one of those meetings06:41
ablysslet me see if i can find my lilo config06:41
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ScuddieAnyone want to help me find out why my fonts are all messed up?  I just installed ubuntu and now I see very bad anti-aliasing.06:42
ScuddieOr a lack thereof06:42
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ablysscan't find it06:42
ablyssanti aliasing is off by default i think06:43
laszlokdo i have to copy the initrd.img as well?06:43
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ablyssyes06:43
ScuddieIf you've ever run Netscape 4.7x on a Mac, that's what I'm talking about.06:43
ablyssthat is what you want to point to in the advance menu in lilo06:43
laszlokthen set root=/dev/hda5 right?06:44
Scuddieit's very jagged and hard to read...06:44
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ablyssi dunno i used lilo off mandrake to configure it06:44
laszlokok it works thanks :) ill try to reboot now!06:45
ablyssif i knew lilo config files are kept i could show ya06:45
laszlokon mandrake its /etc/lilo.conf06:45
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SeamusLPThink I'm having troubles with my internet connection06:47
ablyssah06:48
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ScuddieWell, it seems readable past 11px.  However, if I drop it to 9px, it looks hard to read, especially white text over black background.06:48
ablyss http://www.planetmagrathea.com/shortreview.html06:49
ScuddieIs that an issue with X/Gnome, or is there something I am doing wrong?06:49
ablyssmy copy paste is not working .. ignore that link06:49
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membreyaablyss: don't blame your copy/paste :P06:50
ablysswell it's the truth.. wine and mirc do have bugs! :P06:50
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ScuddieBah!  You're using mIRC, but I'm stuck with X-Chat.06:51
shad0w1emIRC works on linux06:51
shad0w1ewith WINE06:51
dracflamlocheh06:52
dracflamlocwhy?06:52
ablyssthe latest wine is horrible with mIRC06:52
holycowwhy?06:52
membreyaScuddie: konversation ..all the way :P06:52
ScuddieI know it does with CEDEGA, but who wants to do that?06:52
holycowjesus06:52
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dracflamlocholycow, my thoughts exactly06:52
ablysswhy because i paid $$ for mIRC.. and i like it06:52
holycow*giggle* k. :)06:52
holycowi'd rather roast my eyeballs on a hot poker, but thats just me :)06:52
ScuddieAny particular reason for the red text?06:52
SeamusLPDon't see what the appeal with mIRC is.  xchat owns all.06:52
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ScuddieNo it doesnt!!06:53
holycowi'm kidden :) whatever06:53
dracflamlocyes it does =)06:53
ablyssi also paid money for word perfect 9 and i can use in ubuntu wondefully with wine06:53
membreyaWP? lol ;)06:53
holycowwp is an excellent program *nod*06:53
ScuddieX-Chat is confusing.06:53
holycowi like it06:53
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membreyagod.. i haven06:53
membreya't used WP since I had a 28606:54
ablyssi think the developers knew what they were doing from the start06:54
holycowyeah wp suite is given away for nothin with systems06:54
ScuddieSo is there an issue with the Sans Serif font under 9px?06:54
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SeamusLPxchat....confusing06:54
ScuddieIt is when you've been using mIRC all your life :p06:54
dr_willismIRC .... annoying.. :P06:55
SeamusLPI'm sure linux is confusing if you've been using windows all your life06:55
ScuddieNot really06:55
ScuddieJust parts of it.06:55
dr_willisLinux can be confuseing when youve been a MS-Lemming-zombie all your life. :P06:55
membreyamirc is passe..plus the developer looks funny06:55
ablysslol06:55
dracflamlocrofl06:55
ScuddieLike the inability to render small fonts properly :p.06:55
holycowmembreya, lol06:56
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holycowif a geek were a hottie, and were able to code an app for girls ....06:56
holycow... he would make millions in less than a year06:56
membreyalol06:56
dracflamlochm06:56
=== dracflamloc considers doing just that
membreyadracflamloc: tickets on yourself? :P06:56
holycowsadly all of the variables are mutually exclusive06:56
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SeamusLPI liked this chat better when people were asking for help06:57
dracflamlochaha06:57
dracflamlocum ok...06:57
membreyasorry SeamusLP :P06:57
dracflamlochow can i get directx to run natively on ubuntu?!?!?!06:57
holycowSeamusLP, its saturday evening06:57
holycowrelax :)06:57
ablyssdracflamloc.. install wine06:58
NotANickSeamusLP: How do I get my dvdburner working FreeBSD?06:58
shad0w1edracflamloc: you cna?06:58
SeamusLPHeh I know, I just think it's a bit ridiculous to run mirc in wine06:58
dracflamlocahem06:58
membreyai would like some help in locating "babe" wallpapers in SVG (pre 1280x1024)06:58
dracflamloc"Natively"06:58
SeamusLPwhen there are like 500 irc clients for linux06:58
shad0w1eablyss: oh thats what i thought...06:58
holycowSeamusLP I'm sure linux is confusing if you've been using windows all your life  <-- or vice versa06:58
dracflamlocbtw06:58
shad0w1eor CEDEGA : which is better for games06:58
ablyssnatively i think is not possible06:58
dracflamlocthat question was a joke06:58
dracflamlocheh06:58
ablyssthey wine is pretty dern close to native06:58
ablyssthey/though06:58
holycowSeamusLP, that statement is funny, i've used linux exclusively now for 2 years, when i try windows xp, it's not exactly what i consider 'intuitive' at all06:58
SeamusLPNotANick:  cat /dev/random > /dev/hd*06:58
dracflamloc<SeamusLP> I liked this chat better when people were asking for help06:59
SeamusLPholycow:  Just depends on what you're used to06:59
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membreyaholycow: whats not intuitive about a "start" button :P ..especially if you want to shut down06:59
Br34chApr 16 23:01:07 localhost kernel: hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } --//-- Apr 16 23:01:25 localhost kernel: hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }  <-- any ideas, please? :x06:59
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NotANickSeamusLP: Its just writing data to my hd!!! WTF?!?!?!?06:59
holycowmembreya, hehe07:00
imperfect-So, is there a more stable version of gaim I could roll back to than the default one that ships with hoary?07:00
shad0w1eis there a way to set my hard drive to sleep after a certain amount of idle time?07:00
membreyaimperfect-: AFAIK there's no stability issues with gaim..but I use kopete07:00
imperfect-membreya : someone just tried to send me a file and it crashed gaim ;)07:01
imperfect-membreya : and it was unhappy07:01
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AmaranthBr34ch: The filesystem is corrupted or the drive is failing.07:01
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membreyaoccasionally mine used to just die ..like no error messages..have you checked your .xsession-errors file07:01
imperfect-nope07:02
imperfect-but htat's happened too07:02
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imperfect-Hell, I hooked up my Nikon digital the other day07:02
imperfect-and the machine just freaked out07:02
Br34chAmaranth: That doesn't sound too promising . . . I'm a total nub, what actions would be advisable for me to do?07:02
revelaterwhat should i do to turn off my secondmonitor?07:02
revelater(in c)07:02
revelater(in x)07:02
revelaternot c07:02
imperfect-lots of complaining about gnome-cups-icon07:02
AmaranthBr34ch: I'm not sure.07:03
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ScuddieOK...  So is there anything I can do about these small fonts not rendering properly, or am I gonna have to use several large trouts to get some attention?  They're stinky, and I'm not afraid to use them!07:03
imperfect-Gaim has segfaulted and attempted to dump a core file.07:03
imperfect-This is a bug in the software and has happened through07:03
imperfect-no fault of your own.07:03
imperfect-It is possible that this bug is already fixed in CVS.07:03
imperfect-If you can reproduce the crash, please notify the gaim07:03
imperfect-maintainers by reporting a bug at07:03
imperfect-http://gaim.sourceforge.net/bug.php07:03
SeamusLPOK maybe I've found a better server now07:03
imperfect-;)07:03
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revelaterwhat file do i edit to stop x from supporting a second screen?07:04
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membreyarevelater: xorg.conf07:04
membreyarevelater: absolute path is /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:04
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membreyaScuddie: thats because you are07:05
Amaranthhttp://www.realistanew.com/xchat.png vs http://www.realistanew.com/mirc.png07:05
Amaranthyou can't tell me mirc looks better, that's for sure07:05
revelaterits either empty or doens't exist...07:05
Scuddie:(07:05
revelatermirc is a hackers paradise...07:05
danthemani used mirc when i used windows mere days ago07:06
Scuddiemirc is simple.07:06
Amaranthrevelater: I'm a hacker and I disagree. It might be a crackers paradise. :P07:06
danthemanit was the worst ap ever07:06
membreyadamn gnome is ugly07:06
danthemanit told me i wasn't connected no matter what07:06
revelaterright, by hacker i mean cracker...07:06
ScuddieSometimes simplicity is better than complexity.07:06
imperfect-membreya : yeah it sure is07:06
imperfect-;)07:06
danthemani could be connected to three different servers, and it would still have "not connected" in the title bar07:06
Amaranthmembreya: You think that's ugly?07:06
Br34chI'd like some crackers?07:06
imperfect-I do too07:06
Amaranthmembreya: http://www.realistanew.com/etiquette.png07:06
imperfect-there needs to be a decent ubuntu themes package ;)07:07
melloi have two monitors and i want dualies =[07:07
mellolast time i tried X crashed and wouldn't boot07:07
membreyaAmaranth: the panels are what irk me the most07:07
danthemanmello: it took me three days to get xorg.conf right to get my two monitors to work07:07
AmaranthWhy?07:07
revelatermello, i am trying t stop x from recognizing my other monitor!!07:07
membreyaAmaranth: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/snapshot2.png07:08
danthemanmello: do you want to see my xorg.conf file?07:08
dr_willisrevelater,  useing nvidia card?07:08
revelaterno ati07:08
mellodantheman: sure, but my second monitor can only support 1024xwhatever, and i like 1260x07:08
Amaranthmembreya: You have that and you think my GNOME is ugly? :P07:08
|QuaD-membreya: i love it when people have pictures of my gf on their desktop!07:08
Amaranthmembreya: That's the worst theme I've ever seen. :)07:08
revelaterdr_willis: why nvidia easier to shut off?07:08
imperfect-Yeah07:08
imperfect-but I'd fuck the shit out of his background07:09
membreyapah Amaranth :P ...the gnome panels are just so ..plain07:09
imperfect-theme or not07:09
membreyahaha07:09
danthemanmello: i don't know how you're going to get your monitor to give you a resolution it can't support, but i can show you my file...i'll msg you07:09
mellois that elisha cuthbert?07:09
Amaranthmembreya: I like them plain, they tend to not distract me. :)07:09
membreyamello: it is indeed :D07:09
membreyaAmaranth: girls or panels? :P07:09
melloshe's hot.07:09
dr_willisrevelater,  nvidia has some dual-monitor support thats built in to the nvidia drivers.. OR you can configure them with X and xcinerama i recall.07:09
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melloi tried xcinerama, it's too complex for me07:10
melloi'd LOVE to see some dual-monitor support in breezey07:10
imperfect-mello: i dont care what her name is!07:10
imperfect-names are far too personal07:10
|QuaD-membreya: other than the fancy icons, it seems that there is nothing on your kde-panel (or whatever it is called) that kde can07:10
imperfect-this is purely a beastfsck!07:10
Amaranthmembreya: My answer depends on the situation. :)07:10
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|QuaD-that gnome can't do07:10
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|QuaD-mello: i am using dual monitors07:10
dr_willisMello - Hmm.. you got 2 ati video cards? or 1 card with 2 video outs?07:10
|QuaD-i have been since warty07:10
Amaranth|QuaD-: It's not a panel, it's kicker.07:10
membreya|QuaD-: my point was ...that the panels for gnome are plain and ugly.07:10
mellodr_willis: nope, i got an nVidia 5200 with 2 outputs if you will07:10
|QuaD-Amaranth: hehe, yeah forgot the name07:11
|QuaD-membreya: your desktop is too bright :)07:11
membreyalol :P07:11
concept10anyone have any success using a DLink Airplus wireless card with ubuntu?07:11
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dr_willismello,  so you can use the nvidia 'method' or the xcinerima method.   I never did get nvidias stuff working right.07:11
membreyamello: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/ecuthb1012rg.jpg & http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/ecuthb1026ok.jpg07:11
membreyathere ya go :P07:11
mellogracias07:11
membreyastill looking for some SVG versions :|07:11
melloi'll try the xcinerima method, but i'm a newb07:11
|QuaD-mello membreya quit showing people pictures of my gf!07:12
|QuaD-sorry that was for membreya07:12
membreya|QuaD-: if she insists on tarting herself out ..then it's expected :P07:12
dr_willisMello yea pay attention to any docs you find to be sure which is for what.. actually I was able to get dual monitors working  i think with the x config tools. added a 2nd monitor. and so forth to them,07:12
|QuaD-membreya: watch your mouth!07:12
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dr_willismello,  be sure to backup your working X configs07:12
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JonnySlackmello, YES, backup the working file.. it will save you a headache.07:13
Amaranthmembreya, |QuaD-: http://www.realistanew.com/sick.png :D07:13
|QuaD-mello: if you play enough with the X org configs, you will get it, it took me 48 hours to get it setup how i wanted originally07:13
membreyaAmaranth: hahaha :P07:13
melloi tried that last time but didn't know the commands to replace the new with the backup07:13
membreyano ..you haven't tweaked it ..its still ugly :P07:14
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melloit's just cp07:14
|QuaD-Amaranth: whooaaa.... how did you do that? photoshop?07:14
mellofor copy right?07:14
danthemanmmmmmm....elisha07:14
danthemanshe's all mine07:14
membreyakicker AND panels ..impressive ;)07:14
Amaranth|QuaD-: Nope, I deleted the bottom panel and started kicker.07:14
danthemanmello: backup using cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup07:14
EeYoRehello all07:14
|QuaD-Amaranth: is that stable?07:14
AmaranthProbably not07:14
|QuaD-does it crash a lot07:14
Amaranthi dunno, i just did it07:15
membreyadantheman: she said not to tell |QuaD- ..but she's everybodys :D07:15
danthemanmello: replace the the config file with the backup using sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:15
danthemanLIAR!07:15
EeYoRewhy do i get a port scan when when i log on to ubuntu?07:15
danthemani'm drunk, and i'll defend my woman to the death!07:15
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Amaranth|QuaD-: I'm not going to keep it. :)07:15
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thechitowncubscan anyone explain backports07:15
EeYoReany one from south africa here07:15
Scuddie...Perhaps I need a better fontset.07:15
|QuaD-Amaranth: it looks cool :) you should save the screen shot07:16
revelaterhow do i add support for additional diplay sizes through XF86conf-4?07:16
ScuddieI'm from South Sacramento, if that counts.07:16
membreya|QuaD-: except that his kicker looks danged ugly07:16
mellohow do i create a backup?07:16
membreyadantheman: ...give it up ..elisha has given it to everyone ;)07:16
revelateri have one that is:  Modes       "1024x768"07:16
danthemanoh no you did not07:16
mellosudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup07:16
|QuaD-membreya: proof of concept cool not practicality cool07:16
mello?07:16
danthemani'm done now07:16
revelatermello: yes07:17
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dr_willismello,  that is how you copy the file to a backup :P07:17
mello yeah man i'm a terminal newb07:17
mello<-- winXP junkie07:17
AmaranthI've already switched back. :)07:17
melloJUNKie07:17
imperfect-being a newb won't kill you07:17
imperfect-I don't think.07:17
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membreyaimperfect-: yes it will ;)07:17
melloit did last time i tried dualies07:17
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membreyaI killed my /var directory the other day :P07:17
imperfect-membreya : hehe07:17
imperfect-I dunno07:17
revelaterwhat is the syntax to support more resolutions???07:17
imperfect-I've been using linux for 10 years07:18
membreyanow I rsync my entire linux install daily07:18
danthemanon windows xp, dual monitors is so easy...install ultramon...configure exactly how you want...done07:18
imperfect-and i get so frustrated that I almost have a stroke sometimes07:18
imperfect-I think being a long time user is far more dangerous07:18
imperfect-;)07:18
ScuddieGrrrr...07:18
revelateri have one that is:  Modes       "1024x768"07:18
membreyamore commands to screw around with :P07:18
ScuddieI don't even have access to su.07:18
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membreyaScuddie: use sudo07:18
membreyaor sudo -s -H07:18
danthemancan anyone tell me how well gtkpod works?07:18
revelaterdo i add a comma then parenthases and the next uno i want?07:18
danthemani have an existing itunes db07:18
danthemanand all the music on an external hard drive07:19
DanglyBitsis there a ubuntu guide to setup dual boot with windowsXP?07:19
imperfect-dantheman : works pretty well -- but if you re-connected to itunes07:19
revelaterfine be that way...07:19
mellodangly, two harddrives works best07:19
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NotANickwb SeamusLP, intarweb problems? roommate being a bithc about the internet?07:19
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|QuaD-DanglyBits: i just used trial and error07:19
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imperfect-dantheman : there's is a massive explosion ;)07:19
membreyaAmaranth: surprised you didn't pick on the amount of swap space I use :P07:19
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AmaranthSeamusLP: Kick goldfish a couple times for me. :)07:19
SeamusLPI'm going to07:20
DanglyBitsmello: thats the way i've done it in the past with other distros07:20
danthemanuh oh...will the explosion destroy my hard-earned ipod?07:20
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melloDanglyBits: i'm using an old 10GB harddrive for ubuntu, and the 80GB master07:20
mellofor winxp07:20
SeamusLPHe set his IP to mine, we spent 15 minutes testing out ports on our hub/switch07:20
membreyalol SeamusLP :P07:20
imperfect-I'm going to put a 200gig drive in a cage tomorrow07:20
Amaranthmembreya: 3MB, what about it? :)07:20
imperfect-so my powerbook will have good storage07:20
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membreyaAmaranth: i meant the max ;)07:20
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Zugoti was just looking at the code for update-notifier07:21
Amaranthyeah, why do you need so much swap?07:21
Zugotits a mess07:21
DanglyBitsmello:  the previous dual boots use mapping is that the same way ubuntu can be dual booted?07:21
Zugota real mess07:21
membreyaAmaranth: ubuntu configured it that way :P07:21
mellodude i have no idea what you just said07:21
danthemani mean, worse becomes worst, i can just hard-reset all the data on my ipod, and recopy all the music to it with itunes on windows, right?07:21
|QuaD-i have 512 mb swap07:21
mellobut i got the old harddrive and used the preview hoary install and it setup the G-something booter07:21
SeeRSeaI got a gig of swap07:21
ikarohttp://ikaro.homepage.dk/05-04-17_07:20:17_1600x1200.png07:21
imperfect-Anyone used ampache?07:21
Amaranthmembreya: http://www.realistanew.com/resources.png07:21
cafuegoYou can use all that sawp space via tmpfs anyway. It doesn't matter.07:22
ScuddieI wonder what will happen when I press ctrl+alt+delete right this very moment...07:22
Amaranthmembreya: So not only is GNOME easier to use, it also uses less memory. :)07:22
kingsleyWhat's a reliable color printer?07:22
Amaranthmembreya: And thats even with firefox and mono running, two heavy RAM eaters.07:22
spineDanglyBits: What oter distro's have you installed07:22
membreyaAmaranth: pov harddrive space :P07:22
melloepson stylus 77707:22
Amaranthmembreya: ?07:22
SeamusLPAmaranth:  My main argument for gnome is that it doesn't look like crap07:22
mellomine is 4 years old and still chugs07:22
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melloand works with ubuntu07:22
membreyaAmaranth: 20gb less than me ;)07:22
SeeRSeaI wonder if firefox has a mem leak under linux like it does under w2k?07:22
SeeRSeaI doubt it.07:22
imperfect-Why does memory matter?07:22
DanglyBitsspine:i've dual booted gentoo before07:22
imperfect-I've got a GIG07:22
Amaranthmembreya: meh07:22
imperfect-I never use it07:23
imperfect-Is there a firefox update yet?07:23
Zugot1GB isn't a lot nowadays07:23
imperfect-for 1.0.3?07:23
imperfect-Zugot: It's plenty.07:23
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imperfect-Zugot : I never use 500.07:23
Zugoti have a 1.5GB on this laptop and i hit swap every once in a while...07:23
SeeRSea1 gig of ram was for XP in my box.  XP wanted it07:23
Amaranthmembreya: 120GB, 140GB, what's the difference? :)07:23
Amaranthmembreya: I'll never use it all anyway.07:23
membreyaAmaranth: penis size :P07:23
ScuddieSpeaking of ctrl+alt+delete, is there a task manager similar to Server 2003 available07:23
Amaranthmembreya: I win again then. ;)07:23
membreyaanyhoo ....how do you tell how much ram each app is using?07:23
membreyahaha07:23
SeeRSeaps07:24
Zugotmembreya: you could have a look at "top"07:24
Zugotor ps07:24
AmaranthScuddie: Applications->System Tools->System Monitor07:24
Amaranthmembreya: You too, if you feel like using a GNOME app. :)07:24
imperfect-gtop!07:24
Zugoti have way too much swap07:25
Zugot2GB07:25
ScuddieDang it!07:25
cafuegoZugot: No, that's fine.07:25
Amaranthikaro: What wm is that?07:25
Scuddie1024x768 is way too small!07:25
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DanglyBitswhat is the name of the actual grub configuration file07:25
ZugotScuddie: yes it is...07:25
spineDanglyBits: you wont have a problem with this07:25
ZugotDanglyBits: /boot/grup/menu.lst07:25
SeeRSeagrub.conf, right?07:25
SeeRSeanope07:26
Zugoter /boot/grub/menu.lst07:26
danthemanwell, it's time for drunk dan to hit the sack...i'll talk to you guys in the morning when it's time to get my ipod working07:26
membreyatop only shows me % used by the app...07:26
ScuddieIt would help if I could get 1152x86407:26
membreyahmmm07:26
skel_homemembreya: you said you were using ethereal without issues.. are you on the x86_64 version of hoary?07:26
ScuddieToo bad it wont let me.07:26
Zugoti'm running at 1280x800...07:26
delltonyquestion: i setup ltmodem and i believe i have it working cause i had no errors when i compiled the module and then modprobed it but now that it is installed how do i go about testing to see if it dials or initalizes?07:26
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membreyaskel_home: amd64-generic..and I'm running breezy now07:26
Zugotmembreya: what kernel are you running?07:26
SeeRSeapppconfig07:26
membreya1280x800 Zugot ? :|07:26
delltonyok i did that part07:26
SeeRSeapon07:26
Zugotmembreya: yup 1280x80007:26
AmaranthZugot: Laptop widescreen. :)07:26
skel_homemembreya: hmm ok. trying to run strace with my system locks it up =/07:26
ZugotAmaranth: yup...07:26
membreyaZugot: 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic07:26
delltonybut how do i make it dial after running pppconfig?07:27
SeeRSeapon to activate the modem, poff to off it07:27
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Zugoti'll switch to breezy when then include a 2.6.11 kernel07:27
delltonyoh so just type at the # pon?07:27
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membreyaSeeRSea: lol I thought you were saying porn before :|07:27
membreyadamnit elisha!!07:27
delltonysame here07:27
ScuddieI want to run at 1152x864.  How do I change the modes to force it?07:27
delltonyiw as like what the hell07:27
SeeRSea:)  just type 'porn'07:27
delltonyhaha07:27
SeeRSeaI'd run sudo pppconfig, and configure your settings first07:27
Zugoti have breezy running in a vmware session07:28
delltonyi did that07:28
delltonyi have done pppconfig ;)07:28
SeeRSeaIf i remember, pon with turn the modem on without configuring pppconfig.  I think...07:28
delltonybut porn isn't working or maybe it is07:28
Zugotnot much difference from hoary now07:28
cafuegomembreya: ANy known issues in breezy amd64? I'm fetching about 250Mb of updates atm... :-)07:28
delltonyi just typed pon and got nothing as in #pon then returns to #07:28
ScuddieDang it!07:28
SeeRSeaHrm.07:28
imperfect-Yeah07:28
imperfect-I ask for poon all the time07:28
imperfect-I dont get jack07:28
mellohttp://photobucket.com/albums/y90/mellowyllw6/?07:28
membreyacafuego: jebus..my first update (last nite) was only 10007:28
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mellodoes anybody have a website hosted on their ubuntu box?07:29
fazerHello there, any thinkpad 600e users in the house?07:29
ScuddieI dont.07:29
SeeRSeaDo you have an external modem?07:29
mellono..07:29
delltonyno i don't SeeRSea07:29
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SeeRSeaI went out and bought one just for linux07:29
cafuegomembreya: Oh no, you're right. 129Mb; 285 packages07:29
delltonyits a internel geewiz modem07:29
SeeRSeaWinmodems are a bitch07:29
fazerSeeRSea, you said it.07:29
piloim using ubuntu horay hedgehog (the amd-64 version) and i want to add macromedia flash support. i have downloaded the linux plugin from macromedia and i tried to run the installation script but it returned an error that it did not recognize the 64 bit architecture so the manual install instructions said to copy the two files into the plugin folder but idk which one that is07:29
SeeRSeaAn external serial will be much easier07:29
ScuddieSpeaking of external modems, how do I force a 1152x864 screen resolution?07:30
delltonyi understand, just trying to give computer to my aunt for her kids is all07:30
cafuegopilo: Don't bother. it crashes. Lots.07:30
membreyacafuego: lol :P ....and the only issue I know of with breezy that has been reported thus far is evince07:30
delltonyi don't really wanna put any extra money into it07:30
pilodoes it crash in all flavors of ubuntu?07:30
SeamusLPpilo: Might want a 32-bit chroot for that07:30
delltonyjust not sure how i can ata the modem to see if its even working but i assume thats what pon does07:31
DanglyBitshow can i increase the size of fonts in most of the menubars?07:31
cafuegopilo: it crashes on hoary amd64 and in the hoary-ia32 chroot.07:31
ZugotScuddie: have a look at your xorg.conf07:31
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pilohmm07:31
piloic07:31
cafuegodelltony: pon (pppd) log into syslog.07:31
piloi am sol then?07:31
shad0w1eis hoary any LESS stable than warty?07:31
Zugotamd64 linux just ain't there yet07:31
SeeRSeaYes, pon will turn the modem on and you should hear a dial tone if it's detected by linux07:31
SeeRSeaMy internal PCI never did07:31
membreyaZugot: blame developers..not linux ;)07:31
Zugoti'm running x86 hoary on my amd64 laptop07:32
cafuegoZugot: The Linux is fine, it's companies like macromedia that can't be arsed porting their (not that great) software07:32
Zugotmembreya: oh i know07:32
SeeRSeaYou'd think they'd have shockwave.07:32
membreyai figure if something doesnt install on my amd64..it's not worth installing.07:32
Zugotcafuego: they'll port it one day...07:32
membreyaalthooooooooough oo.o2 I'm annoyed about07:32
imperfect-membreya : That's lame ;)07:33
membreya:P07:33
cafuegoZugot: Yes, in 2008, when nobody uses their software anymore...07:33
Zugotmembreya: i can't say that... my vpn software doesn't run in 64bit mode07:33
imperfect-membreya : amb64 is far too young for you to have that position ;)07:33
JonnySlackAnyone here know their way around eth1394???07:33
SeamusLPmembreya:  Wow OOo2 won't install?07:33
DanglyBitshow can i increase the size of fonts in most of the menubars..in firefox, terminal mode etc...07:33
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Zugotmy next laptop is gonna have 1600x1200 resoultion07:33
cafuegoZugot: weight bad07:33
rymanhi guys, I installed KDE ffrom synaptic07:33
membreyaSeamusLP: I will just test..it's been a few weeks :)07:33
rymanhow do I run it ?07:34
JonnySlackAnyone at all... I've got an odd error that ends up crippling my system.07:34
JonnySlackAnyone here know their way around eth1394???07:34
fazerdamn, no laptop users in her?07:34
fazerheh07:34
Zugotfazer: i'm on a laptop right now07:34
DanglyBitsanyone have ubuntu-amd64 running on a compaq pressario R3240 laptop?07:34
cafuegofazer: I use various laptops.07:34
fazerZugot, is it a Thinkpad 600E?07:34
JonnySlackfazer, me too07:34
fazerWhich one of you use Thinkpad 600e?07:34
Zugotno... its a compaq presario r3340us laptop07:34
membreyaSeamusLP: yup..still can't install openoffice.org2-common: Depends: openoffice.org2-core (> 1.9.79.2) but it is not installable07:34
liablefazer: whats the problem07:34
Zugoti want a thinkpad t4207:35
fazerliable, sound card doesn't work =(07:35
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DanglyBitsZugot: is that an amd64 processor?07:35
ZugotDanglyBits: yup07:35
DanglyBitsZugot: any problems?07:35
JonnySlackubuntu is being a bitch...07:35
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JonnySlackright now at leat.07:35
JonnySlackleast**07:35
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ZugotDanglyBits: amd64 hoary had some problems...  x86 is working fine.. i just need to configure the touchpad to use the scrolling part07:36
AmaranthNotANick: wtf was that in #pymusique?07:36
DanglyBitsZugot:was that the only problem with amd64 hoary?07:36
JonnySlackafter the update from warty to hoary I can't use TCP/IP over firewire.07:36
smoucheZugot -- how do you do that -- the touchpad setup?07:36
Burgundaviaryman, to run kde, select it from the session when you login07:36
sighttp://harrisplace.net/screenshots/Ubuntu-Screenshots/wgetubuntu.png07:36
JonnySlackWhich is my main connection from my laptop to my desktop.07:36
rymanBurgundavia[]  I dont see it07:36
SeeRSeaI had problems going from Warty to hoary as well.  It wasn't smooth..07:37
DanglyBitsZugot: synaptic drivers07:37
Amaranthmembreya: I have a better background for you, btw. :)07:37
SeeRSeaI just rebuilt to straight hoary.07:37
rymando I have to restart comp or I can just log off and its gonna be there ?07:37
liablefazer: does lsmod show sound modules?07:37
NotANickAmaranth: Me and go1dfish were testing features of our irc clients07:37
membreyaAmaranth: bring it :D07:37
SeamusLPAmaranth:  I think he was demonstrating to goldfish the difference between /query and /msg07:37
ZugotDanglyBits: hmm... vmware 4 didn't work... but i upgraded.   there are oo problems, and my vpn software didn't work07:37
membreyasig: pretty :P07:37
sig:)07:37
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Zugotmy vpn software is pretty damn important to me07:37
NotANickAmaranth: I told him about the query feature which he didnt know about07:37
membreyai like the OSX style kicker :P07:37
imperfect-OS X > All.07:37
rymanBurgundavia[]  lets me restart comp07:37
imperfect-;)07:37
JonnySlackSeeRSea, I was told to do a clean install from a friend. but the point is, you should not have to with a debian/apt system.07:37
NotANickAmaranth: and yet he claims to be "l33t"07:37
ZugotDanglyBits: i'm gonna hold off till i can get a 2.6.11 kernel on my laptop07:37
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SeeRSeaJonny- agreed07:38
DanglyBitsis there any versions of ubuntu running off a usb stick..similar to the way gentoo is used for flashlinux?07:38
JonnySlackimperfect-, and then you try to tweak the system.... OSX != teh,win07:38
membreyasig: ...but what was the purpose of that screen shot?07:38
AmaranthNotANick: He wrote an ecc algoritm that completes in less than a second, could you?07:38
SeamusLPAmaranth:  He's already got one.07:38
DanglyBitsZugot: is there a 2.6.11 kernel version for hoary amd64?07:38
sigmembreya: bordom07:38
membreyalol sig :P07:38
ZugotDanglyBits: not one you want to use07:38
AmaranthNotANick: He is getting his name plastered all around the internet for work on PyMusique, are you?07:39
Scuddieanybody:  How can I force a 1152x864x32 resolution?  I'd really like to know.07:39
AmaranthNotANick: He wins. :)07:39
membreyaif you want to compare speeds...im up for it :P07:39
DanglyBitsis there any versions of ubuntu running off a usb stick..similar to the way gentoo is used for flashlinux?07:39
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NotANickAmaranth: i'm more "l33t" cause my names NOT plastered all over the internet07:39
Zugotmy amd64 3200 runs x86 fast enough07:39
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rymanBurgundavia[]   I logged off but I dont see KDE in there07:39
AmaranthNotANick: This isn't "the scene" so I don't see how that makes sense.07:40
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ZugotSeeRSea: boo!07:40
SeeRSeaBLOATware  :)07:40
membreyaSeeRSea: back away from the KDE and nobody gets hurt07:40
NotANickAmaranth: be cool...I understand how good he is...dmn i'm talking to him IRL right now07:40
Burgundaviaryman, did you install kubuntu-desktop?07:40
mfyahyahi all, i just finished my first ever install of ubuntu.. i got a problem: i can't browse in firefox.. i can ping google.com though07:40
rymanI instaleld KDE07:40
rymannot kubuntu-desktop07:40
membreyadher ryman :P07:41
Zugotyeah get kubuntu-desktop07:41
delltonyinteresting pon does work so i take it pon the the number?07:41
membreyanext time follow the guides :)07:41
cafuegoDanglyBits: My self-compiled 2.6.11.7 works fine and has been for a week or so.07:41
membreyamfyahya: tried disabling IPv6 in firefox?07:41
AmaranthNotANick: Cool, kick him for me. ;)07:41
delltonycause i see on my phone it says line in use when i type pon07:41
Zugotdoes ubuntu use stock kernels?07:41
SeeRSeadelltony, yes.  If you set up your connection with pppconfig, you can pon <connection name>07:41
Zugoti'm curious what patches they are applying07:41
cafuegoZugot: if you install them, yes.07:41
delltonyok07:41
delltonywill try :)07:41
cafuegoZugot: Oh, probably the debian patches. Initrd etc.07:41
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SeeRSeaAt least you got a connection.  that's most of the battle07:42
mellook fellas i need an honest opinion07:42
mellois keira knightley hot07:42
melloi say no07:42
Zugoti'll look at putting a 2.6.11 on here tomorrow morning07:42
melloshe's pretty, but no07:42
JonnySlackmello, I'll give an honest answer07:42
mfyahyamembreya: how do i disable ipv6 in firefox?07:42
SeeRSeaBy the way Tony, do you work for Dhell?07:42
JonnySlackmello, no07:42
rymanBurgundavia[]  I'm donwloadng Kubuntu-desktop07:43
JonnySlackryman, noo... kde is "teh suck"07:43
JonnySlackhehe07:43
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NotANickxfce 4tw07:43
mellowhere are some good ubuntu themes?07:43
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SeamusLPCome on, no DE flamewars07:44
mfyahyamembreya: i can access sites by their ip, i can ping by hostname.. but i can't browse by hostname.. wierd07:44
thechitowncubsHey, has anyone gotten samba to work in Hoary?07:44
delltonysweet, houston this is eagle one WE HAVE LANDED :)07:44
delltonyit works07:44
thechitowncubsIt was easier w/ Warty, and hoary even has a GUI for shared folders07:44
delltonythanks for the help guys07:44
SeeRSeaAre you one tony?07:44
SeeRSeaon*07:44
delltonyyep07:44
SeeRSeaRight on07:44
delltonyworking perfect07:44
membreyamfyahya: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#loadwebsitefaster07:44
SeeRSeapoff to turn it off in the console07:44
rymananyone know how to make desktop look like this http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=86&original=1&c=207:44
thechitowncubsCan anyone help me set this up if they have gotten it to work?07:45
delltonynow i can give her a linux pc that works great07:45
rymaneye candy i'm dying for it07:45
delltonyso ill just make a launcher for her to connect and disconnnect07:45
delltonythanks a million man07:45
membreyavery funky ryman07:45
goldfishemmmmm07:46
goldfishWhat's this kick goldfish business? :)07:46
rymani want to know how to make it like that07:46
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goldfishah right07:47
goldfishgo1dfish not goldfish07:47
membreyaryman: lots of tweaking...message the person07:47
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delltonythe hoary repositories they on the wiki or in a forum?07:48
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SeeRSeaThe hoary repos should be listed in etc/apt/sources.list- just uncomment them07:48
delltonyon a array 5?07:48
unpersonI just upgraded from Warty to Hoary via synaptic and I have a few questions.  a) How can I tell that I'm using X.org and not X11?07:48
delltonyi'm wanting to dist-upgrade it to the current one if not ill check on this pc what i have in there07:49
cafuegowhoops07:49
cafuegosynaptic just fell over and did poo07:49
rymanmembreya[]  I just did =P07:49
SeeRSeaThey should be on the forums.  I thought you had hoary07:49
SeeRSeaGoogle it07:49
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SeamusLPunperson:  If you upgraded to hoary you should have x.org07:51
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mfyahyamembreya: Thanks! it worked, have a good day all, bye07:51
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membreyafirefox sucks..nuff said07:51
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rymanmembreya |  what do you prefer ?07:52
JonnySlackmembreya, nuff said? no, enough has not been said. Firefox rock! I love it.07:52
camcorderso go fix it07:52
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SeeRSeaI love fox07:52
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membreyaryman: I use KDE so I use konqueror..when I was using gnome I used galleon07:52
rymanmy menu is frozen07:53
NotANickhttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&forumid=7&threadid=313057: ie in ubuntu07:53
rymanIE in Ubuntu is nice07:53
SeamusLPhahahahahahaha07:53
SeeRSeaI miss pop ups07:53
Revildoes anyone know if the Nforce 4 chipset is supported in V. 5.0407:53
NotANicki love it07:53
SeeRSeaand malware07:53
Revilbecuse i was having problems in 4.1007:54
NotANickit makes my ubuntu install look nicer07:54
rymanoh ok ... Mr Bill just frozen my comp07:54
scorpixis there a repository for apache 2.1.4?07:54
delltonySeeRSea, isn't there like a modules.autoload so i don't have to modprobe ltserial on each boot?07:54
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SeeRSeatony- I assume so.  I'm a newbie myself.07:55
SeamusLPscorpix: I see 2.0.5307:56
delltonythats fine we are all learning each day07:57
scorpixSeamusLP: i mean the alpha version.07:57
membreyaSeamusLP: yup ...running breezy and that's the version I have07:57
NotANickyeah, i havent been running ubuntu long myself, i'm still a newb07:57
SeamusLPscorpix: If you want an alpha version of apache, it's probably not going to be in any repository07:58
SeamusLPscorpix:  I think you're stuck with source07:58
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scorpixSeamusLP: there's an experimental repository for debian that contain many of alphas/betas, so i think maybe there's similar for ubuntu.08:00
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SeamusLPscorpix:  No, I think your best bet would be said repository08:00
SeamusLPscorpix:  I can imagine it breaking pretty easily though08:00
delltonySeeRSea, found it its /etc/modules08:01
ryman1 thing i want to say about KDE, the font in the menu is butt ugly08:01
cafuegostuff from debian project/experimental often has broken depends.08:01
SeeRSeaexcellent08:01
SeeRSeaTony, do you work for Dhell?08:01
warpuckI am installing Ububtu right know to try it out. how does wine wok on it ok or not so good08:01
warpuckwok = work08:02
delltonyno way i actually fix computers :P08:02
membreyaryman: change it08:02
SeeRSeahaha.  I fix Dhellz08:02
cafuegowarpuck: No idea, I run it on amd64 and PPC, wine works on neither.08:02
delltonytheir support sucks08:02
SeeRSeaOh man, their helpless desk is a mindfuck08:02
rymanmembreya|  no idea how to change it08:02
delltonyi called them up asking them what the horizonal sync was for this monitor08:02
delltonythey go what os08:02
SeeRSeaoh no08:03
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delltonyi go that has nothing to do with my horizontal sync and vertical sync08:03
cafuegodelltony: Well, that honestly serves you right for not using google.08:03
membreyaryman: go to control center > appearance and themes > fonts08:03
delltonyhere we go again with the google stuff08:03
delltonyyou happy now :)08:03
cafuegoey?08:03
delltonyi did google but i figured the manufactor would know what their hsync and vsync is08:03
delltonyi actually had the values but wanted to make sure they were right08:04
cafuegodelltony: Sure, but not call-center monkeys.08:04
membreyadelltony: you assume too much08:04
cafuegodelltony: rule #1: They know nothing.08:04
delltonyi know that08:04
SeeRSealol08:04
delltonynow can i finish my story :p08:04
warpuckhay I am a call center monkey08:04
warpuckbut I dont use a script08:05
membreyawarpuck: so am I ..but I do internet banking support :P ...damn linux users08:05
delltonymake it short i told them i had linux they go no support it i go fine then i hvae windows xp08:05
delltonythen they told me the values haha08:05
delltonybut none the less google is my friend and is yours too08:05
Burgundavia[[Image:AirportFrankfurt fromair.jpg] ] 08:06
delltonylet that be a lesson children never call tech support for technical questions08:06
cafuegothe only time I *vere* call dell is if a piece of hardware breaks, that I can't fix myself08:06
rymanmembreya|  thanks , it looks better now08:06
delltonyoh that was the first time i ever called support in my life08:06
delltonycause i wasn't sure on the values08:07
delltonyand only reason i did that was cause i didn't want potential burnin08:07
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cafuegodelltony: Well, you invariably don't need them for X anyway. They get probed, works fine in 99% of cases.08:07
NotANickjust build it yourself and you'll have all the info you need08:07
delltonyok thats good to know08:08
delltonynone the less i'm tired and thanks for the help, and the google tip :D08:08
warpuckhow long does the network repository test take in the install its benn going for a while08:08
membreyawarpuck: press alt+f2 ..and type ifconfig eth0 mtu 150008:09
delltonyi know one thing ubuntu is great, it took me last week 5 days to install gentoo with all the emergin and i have a fast connection on it haha anyway thats my story and i'm stickin to it08:09
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kkathmanallo all :)08:09
Raskallg'morning.08:09
membreyahey kkathman :)08:09
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kkathmanmembreya: Got a couple of Ims from you but you closed the pane I guess :)08:10
membreya:P08:10
kkathmansay membreya Im trying to create a launch icon on a desktop, but when I navigate to eh executable it gives me a msg that says the only "local" files are allowed?? What gives?08:11
kkathmanthe executable is in a deep directory under /usr/local/08:11
membreyakkathman: you'll notice that it has sda or hda: // ..you need to take that out08:11
kkathmanahh ok08:11
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concept10If I could get this wireless adapter to work I would install ubuntu on my sisters old P-II laptop, does anyone have a wireless adapter that works with the hedgehog?08:13
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membreyahah..g'day smouche :)08:13
kkathmanmorning btw membreya  and howdy there smouche :)08:14
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membreyakkathman: got that launcher done now ? ;)08:14
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kkathmanmembreya: still having difficulties...typing I think..but I'll see08:16
NotANickSeamusLP: Jag tnkte installera torsmo, och kra det fr att det verkade coolt...08:16
kkathmanahh there we go08:16
kkathmansmouche: got all my boxes up and running now :)08:17
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kkathmanI put a new Ubuntu box in service08:17
kkathmanI now have as many LInux as Windows in the house now :)08:18
kkathmanif I disregard the wireless ones08:19
SeamusLPNotANick:       08:19
thechitowncubshey08:19
thechitowncubsdoes anyone have an ipw2200?08:19
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NotANickSeamusLP: ?? ?? ???????? ???, cockbite.08:20
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SeamusLPyeah korean fonts look awesome in ubuntu08:21
kkathmanthey look real nice, but I cant read them, so I cant help :)08:21
SeamusLPI dunno, NotANick decided to post swedish, so I did the best I could and responded in korean08:21
Danglywhat is the version of 2.6.11 i should install for amd64?08:21
NotANickSeamusLP and I happen to be multilingual and use eachother to help practice the langauges08:21
kkathmanso whats going on with kde-apps and kde-look ??08:22
Danglyis it the linux-image-2.6.11-1 amd64 -generic?08:22
NotANickand i countered his korean with my russian08:22
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go1dfishkkathman: referring to their aesthetic flaws?08:22
Danglykkathman: they just changed servers over yesterday..maybe they have some problems08:23
kkathmango1dfish: no as in they arent accessible...maybe they are now but they werent a few mins ago08:23
SeamusLPDangly:  I think k7 is what you're looking for with amd6408:23
membreyaerm no ..k808:23
membreyanot k708:23
go1dfishoh, I thought you were talking about the apps/look themselves08:23
membreyak7 = athlon xp etc..k8 = amd6408:23
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Danglyhow do i check to see what version i currently have installed?08:23
SeamusLPAh, pardon my ignorance08:23
membreyaDangly: for your kernel do a uname -a in a terminal08:25
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kkathmansuperkaramba.com is down too08:25
Danglykde says i have 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic loaded..so should i not go with linux-image-2.6.11-1 amd64-generic??08:25
membreyaDangly: to find out what version of ubuntu you're running do a cat /etc/lsb-release08:25
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Danglyanyone??...kde says i have 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic loaded..so should i not go with linux-image-2.6.11-1 amd64-generic??08:27
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Smevencan anyone assist with a wifi card based on the acx111 driver?08:29
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SeamusLPDangly:  If you install that kernel you'll have a choice at bootup08:29
SeamusLPDangly:  If it fails, you'll be fine because you can choose your previous kernel08:29
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Danglyok08:29
_phate_is there away to reset rythmbox (AKA music player) to default?08:30
SeamusLPDangly:  And not taking into consideration any strange bugs which may involve that kernel version and your hardware, that should be the kernel you're looking for08:30
magaltavor_phate_, yes there is08:30
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fazerHello!08:31
fazerHOw do I change my default browser? Firefox sucks.08:31
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_phate_magaltavor: how?08:31
magaltavor_phate_, just a second ok08:31
SeamusLPfazer:  What browser do you want?08:31
fazerSeamusLP: Opera.08:32
_phate_magaltavor: k08:32
Danglyis there a ubuntu build for openoffice 2 beta for amd64?08:32
membreyaDangly: no08:32
Danglyis there a ubuntu build for openoffice 2 beta?08:33
SeamusLPfazer:  I think there's a selector somewhere in the system menu, hold on08:33
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fazerSeamusLP: ah, thanks.08:33
warpuckfinaly done08:33
fazerlet me also see if I Can get it over here.08:33
warpuckrebooting08:33
SeamusLPfazer yep, preferred applications under preferences08:33
fazerSeamusLP: in firefox?08:33
SeamusLPfazer: No, under the system menu08:33
bretzelDangly: I think it is in universe repository, I am using it :-)08:34
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fazerSeamusLP: ah awesome, do you know what is a very lightweight window manager? openbox? I have that installed..08:34
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NotANickXFCE4!!!!08:34
SeamusLPfazer:  What NotANick said.08:34
bretzelamd64: oops! sorry! didn't read completely all your question08:34
fazerSeamusLP: yeah, but I need those desktop icons ;)08:35
NotANickdesktop icons?08:35
NotANickwhat are these desktop icons?08:35
SeamusLPfazer heh you can always run nautilus, thus defeating the purpose of switching to xfce08:35
NotANickjust use key bindings instead08:35
NotANickmuch faster08:35
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fazerSeamusLP: nautilus?08:36
magaltavor_phate_, /home/YOURHOMENAME/.gconf/apps/rhythmbox/ and the and then delete %gconf files in all the directories and sub directories reboot ur pc and then go on again to you rythmbox and it will ask you from the wizard like the forst time you open in it ,try it and i am gere please msg me when you come back08:36
fazerSeamusLP: I on a laptop with 366 MHz with 160 MB ram =/08:36
SeamusLPfazer Hmmm you know I hear fluxbox is pretty good for systems like that.  Also Openbox, blackbox, etc.08:37
NotANickfazer: in that case i would use xfm08:37
NotANickfazer: its pretty cut down08:37
SeamusLPfazer not really sure about lightweight browsers, though.  Firefox may actually do really well when you free up that ram.08:38
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fazerSeamusLP: I am going to be replcing firefox with opera beta 3, it runs better in Windows too ;)08:38
fazerNotANick: xfm?08:39
NotANickfazer: like i said, its pretty cutdown, not too intuitive, lacking graphically08:39
fazerNotANick: well, i have openbox, its neat, how do I make it merge with gnome though?08:39
SeamusLPfazer: cool08:39
go1dfishelinks is a good lightweight browser08:40
fazergoldfish: har, yeah.08:40
SeamusLPhahahaha08:40
go1dfishno really08:40
NotANickstop trolling go1dfish08:40
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go1dfishif you must have graphics try links208:40
fazeroh08:40
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go1dfishlinks2 -g08:41
danko123456hi08:41
RaskallI have written an article about mye home network that might be a good propaganda-thing for converting windows users: http://rolfas.net/?page_id=31408:41
go1dfishw3m does images to08:41
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fazergoldfish: hmmm08:42
fazergoldfish: okay, apt-get installing it ;)08:42
NotANickNO08:42
NotANickits horrid08:42
NotANickand it broke google08:42
danko123456Raskall: nice page:)08:43
Raskalldanko123456: :) thnx.08:43
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go1dfishepiphany is supposed to be relatively light weight08:43
danko123456Raskall: I dont really feel like reading through it all(I jsut got ~ from work...)08:44
NotANickdillo is supposed to be pretty good08:44
danko123456Raskall: Tell me what is the domain if I want to make use of it for a while?08:44
SeamusLPfazer: you're going to hate links2.  stick with opera.08:44
NotANickbut no java/javascript support08:45
Raskalldanko123456: :) thats ok. I just thought the content might be interesting to read for users here.08:45
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go1dfishyou could also try minimo08:45
go1dfishhttp://www.mozilla.org/projects/minimo/08:45
Raskalldanko123456: what do you mean?08:45
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_phate_magaltavor: It worked for me, thanks!08:45
stevan``umm08:45
stevan``hello08:45
stevan``i want to ask08:46
fazerSeamusLP: haha, its not bad, i think I kinda like it =)08:46
stevan``is ubuntu still ship the cd 4 free ?08:46
danko123456Raskall: No, it is, I just said that cause I meant, like, if it says there what the domain is, I was lazy to read...I mean basically, if you were to host my web page there for a while, what is the domain/URL i could get?08:46
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SeamusLPfazer: go to google.com and do a search :)08:46
fazerSeamusLP: ah okay, hold on08:46
Raskalldanko123456: any free one you like.08:46
_phate_magaltavor: I wonder if just deleting the rythmbox directory and just control-alt-backspace would work as well08:46
danko123456Like...DaBa.org?08:46
fazerSeamusLP: haha yeah, i see wha tyou mean :P08:46
fazerSeamusLP: Would you know how to run gnome and openbox side by side?08:46
Raskalldanko123456: that is any available one. But I could give you a subdomain under uke1.org.08:47
SeamusLPvoodoo?08:47
go1dfishon dual monitors?08:47
|QuaD-fazer: what do you mean side by side?08:47
Burgundaviastevan``, yes08:47
danko123456yeah, free/available...08:47
fazer|QuaD-: I mean like...running openbox but it also has the gnome toolbar ...08:47
danko123456Raskall: how about daba.org?08:47
danko123456www.daba.org?08:47
|QuaD-fazer: try running gnome-panel08:47
danko123456www.daba.org08:47
SeamusLPfazer:  You don't have much ram or processor... I wouldn't recommend running gnome08:48
|QuaD-fazer: thats just a guess though08:48
danko123456aw...it exists.08:48
Raskalldanko123456: I don't have any particular domain for hosting. since domains costs less than a couple of beers a year I help my users register the domains they like.08:48
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SeamusLPfazer:  If you want something like gnome you can do xfce408:48
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danko123456:)08:48
Smeveni am trying to get the acx111 to work, and i am unsure what firmware it is trying to load for the car...08:48
Smevend08:48
NotANickseriously for a windowmanger use xfce08:48
Raskalldanko123456: hmm.. a bit cool, but what does daba mean?08:48
go1dfishratpoison ;)08:48
NotANickits lightweight and fast08:48
NotANickand highly configurable08:48
Smevenany ideas where it is located08:48
SeamusLPfazer: you may also be able to run nautilus inside of xfce4 to get a desktop, but at about a 30 meg memory hit08:48
go1dfishratpoison is more lightweight and faster than xfce08:48
go1dfishsome might argue, not as pretty though08:48
andieeBurgundavia : i have register my self on shipit.ubuntu website after 1 week i still doesn't have any mail confirmation from ubuntu08:49
danko123456Raskall: oh, I see, so I get an IP address that is static, so I can register my IP type of deal?08:49
andieewhy ?08:49
Smevensurely someone has to know how to get the acx111 card to work in ubuntu....08:49
danko123456Raskall: oh, I see, so I get an IP address that is static, so I can register my domain type of deal?08:49
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danko123456that shows Im tired...08:49
danko123456:)08:49
Raskalldanko123456: well. I only have one IP, but set up virtual apache web servers, ftp servers and mail domains for them.08:49
danko123456Raskall: yeah, I kinda get the big picture...08:50
fazerSeamusLP: hmmm yeah, I am aware of xfce4, but it pretty much uses the same memory requirements as gnome.08:50
danko123456Raskall: daba means really nothing, at least in my language...08:50
fazerI mean, i odn't get the same amont of ram free08:50
|QuaD-Raskall: are you a webhosting provider?08:50
danko123456Just a nickname that I gave myself recently.08:50
Raskalldanko123456: :) I could get more ip's, but they cost me about $11 a month.08:50
SeamusLPfazer:  Not really, it's about half the memory requirement08:50
Raskall|QuaD-: no. just hosting things for friends and family.08:50
danko123456Yeah, I know, but it works, that is what is important...08:50
Burgundaviaandiee, you will get a confirmation when they ship08:50
|QuaD-Raskall: is your server in a datacenter?08:51
SeamusLPfazer:  You're looking at cache08:51
Raskall|QuaD-: no.. I have it at home on a 1700/512 dsl line.08:51
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SeamusLPfazer:  Linux uses the rest of your ram for cache08:51
|QuaD-Raskall: oh, hehe :)08:51
fazerSeamusLP: hmmm I see.08:52
fazerSeamusLP: Okay...so, Ubuntu uess X11?08:52
andieeBurgundavia: usually how long it will takes ?08:52
danko123456x.,org08:52
danko123456every unix uses x1108:52
danko123456its a protocol for GUI.08:52
cens0redarg that was weird. My panel went and hid on the other screen for a while. Then when I found it, it quickly darted back where it belonged.08:52
SeamusLPfazer:  Yeah, x.org08:52
Burgundaviaandiee, it will happen when it happens. Expect a few weeks08:52
danko123456I may be wrong there:(08:52
Raskall|QuaD-: I am just doing it to learn stuff. But since I host (for no cost, though) for other people I have been thinking of getting the to chip in for a backup solution.08:52
danko123456something along those lines.08:52
Agrajagdanko123456: you are, not every "unix" has a gui, and gnu/linux is not unix08:53
fazerSeamusLP: I need to use a Xfree86 driver for my video card instead, can I just over write it??08:53
danko123456haha08:53
danko123456I love your answer.08:53
|QuaD-Raskall: yeah, i am looking for a webhost :( my line isn't reliable enough08:53
SeamusLPfazer: are you sure that's what you need?08:53
danko123456I probably knew that.08:53
danko123456But I said it wrong, so thanks!08:53
SeamusLPfazer:  Whats wrong with xorg?08:53
go1dfishfazer: what kind of card?08:53
FLeiXiuSHow do I remove a sub interface on my NIC08:54
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danko123456Hey, Agrajag...I lost my web files:( its cause I upgraded to Ubuntu, without cleaning out sources.list...08:54
drewcoreanybody know in which directory the xmms files are kept?08:54
andieeBurgundavia: i08:54
andieeBurgundavia: i c08:54
Raskall|QuaD-: my line has 100% uptime since I got it in september last year. Quite impressive, really. I have managed lines at my employers through the years and noone has been this stable.08:54
danko123456And then I lost X, somehow...08:54
fazergoldfish: neomagic, the one that thinkpad 600e has...08:54
danko123456And I backed up ~, but not the /var/www/08:54
fazerSeamusLP: From my research, the driver is HIGHLY crippled08:55
go1dfishhave you tried it with xorg?08:55
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fazerSeamusLP: mainly because when you scroll a web page, there's LOTS of lag.08:55
danko123456I am not sure why I told you that story...08:55
Raskall|QuaD-: but my previous isp had several hours of downtime every week. So I guess I made a good choice when I switched isp. :)08:55
fazergoldfish: what do you mean?08:55
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danko123456but there is a lesson learned..08:55
|QuaD-Raskall: my uptime is fine, until my isp (my school) decides i have a windows virus (odd i don't run windows) and they shut off my line until i call and bicker with them08:55
danko123456haha08:55
Raskall|QuaD-: :(08:55
go1dfishmy uni has never shut me down for that...08:56
danko123456they mean you are sucking up their bandwidth.08:56
go1dfishthey did however shut me down to redirecting anyone trying to get to my access point to goatse though :-/08:56
danko123456All right, here goes a restart of X.08:56
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go1dfishmade my routing box beep whenever it happened to, it was great :)08:56
|QuaD-danko123456: nah, they pick out a new virus i have each time :).... i am considering opening vmware and installing a windows client and just open virus after virus08:56
GNAMbest program to mount EXT3 partition on windows XP?08:56
|QuaD-to spread them across the network :)08:56
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|QuaD-Raskall: yeah, i want a vds... but they cost too much08:57
AgrajagGNAM: you can't mount it, use a program called explore2fs to copy files over08:57
GNAMinteresting08:57
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RaskallI run mrtg on my router and have A LOT to go on before I need to get a better connection. :) Technology is a bit strange. It's not may years since I wanted to be online 24/7/365, but concluded it was a dream decades ahead. And now, only a few years later I run my own server park. :)08:57
danko123456I am playing around with window managers...08:57
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go1dfishdanko123456: what have you tried so far?08:57
danko123456not many..08:58
danko123456Like...08:58
|QuaD-Raskall: you have a server farm?08:58
danko123456Blackbox, fluxbox, gde, and kde.08:58
Plexyscan i use RPMs with ubuntu?08:58
fazerdanko123456: and?08:58
Raskall|QuaD-: logically, yes. have between 5 and 10 webservers and 10-15 mail domains.08:58
go1dfishdanko123456: try ratpoison and windowmaker08:58
Agrajaggde?08:58
danko123456Now I restarted into afterstep08:58
mchasardhi i'm looking for a small livecd distro ....08:58
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fazerPlexys: yes, ou have to convert it to a .deb08:58
danko123456I guess.08:58
danko123456:))08:58
fazerPlexys: use alien, type 'man alien'08:59
drewcoreanyone have trouble getting the xmms-mp4 plugin to work?08:59
danko123456fazer: they are all right...08:59
RaskallPlexys: you can convert them to .debs with alien.08:59
danko123456I like blackbox for showing off.08:59
danko123456:)08:59
Plexyshmmm, that's what this tutorial i've found told me. but is it safe?08:59
danko123456Agrajag: what can you teach me about that?08:59
Plexysi don't wanna mess up my system you know hehe08:59
|QuaD-Raskall: are all those servers on that one server?08:59
danko123456Gnome desktop environment, default Ubuntu.08:59
Agrajagabout what?08:59
Agrajagdanko123456: that's gnome, not gde08:59
danko123456Cool, thanks.09:00
danko123456Whats gde?09:00
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|QuaD-danko123456: gnome desktop environment09:00
Raskall|QuaD-: yup. but they do not have a lot of traffic. Have about 150-200 unique visitors in total each day.09:00
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Luke1mchasard: have you tried searching www.distrowatch.org yet?09:00
Agrajaggde isn't anything09:00
danko123456Afterstep looks nice too.09:00
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danko123456heh, awesome.09:00
fazerPlexys: yes I tried it once.09:01
Plexysthank you, fazer09:01
danko123456Well, why not gnome desktop environment?09:01
Plexysi will try it now09:01
Agrajagbecause gnome already has "environment" in it09:01
Agrajaggnome is already an acronym09:01
danko123456Oh...09:01
RaskallUbuntu converted me from a kde-user to gnome. Gnome is so much more comfortable on the desktop.09:01
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danko123456Raskall: I agree, some dont.09:01
AgrajagGNU network object model environment or soemthing09:02
Raskallprefer xfce on slow systems, though.09:02
Thanatermesisplease, any person send me your xorg.conf file ?09:02
danko123456sweet.09:02
danko123456I like the little g.09:02
danko123456:)09:02
danko123456ok...09:02
danko123456Thanatermesis: ok...09:02
Thanatermesisthks09:02
danko123456I would, if I had one..09:02
danko123456jj09:02
_phate_rhythmbox doesn't seem to like having a massive amount of songs...09:02
danko123456Where do I get it, and where do UI sned?09:02
_phate_anyone know of anything better09:03
danko123456You use that?09:03
Raskalldanko123456: just one annoying thing with gnome and that's nautilus and bluetooth. Nautilus just will not recognize bluetooth:/// as a location09:03
danko123456oh, yeah?09:03
Thanatermesisdanko123456, for a conf example use09:03
fazerPlexys: np09:03
danko123456And youare up in Norway, and its got to be Bluetooth compliant...09:03
fazerHmmm, can I play .pls files?09:03
danko123456FOr Harald.09:03
danko123456_phate_: I dont know, have you tried xmms?09:03
Raskalldanko123456: but thats only on my computer. have gotten it to work in hoary on my wifes computer09:04
go1dfish_phate_: cplay09:04
danko123456Thanatermesis: i dont know where the file is...09:04
danko123456I dont know where to send it.09:04
danko123456tell me those two, and you will have the file.09:04
Raskalldanko123456: I use bluez just fine, but nautilus wont do it for me. have to use obex-ftp for file transfer.09:04
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Thanatermesisdanko123456, /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:05
danko123456Raskall: I like bluetooth, though.09:05
danko123456thanks, and send where?09:05
danko123456I have a Btooth apple mouse.09:05
danko123456And an apple Btooth enabled iBook.09:05
Raskalldanko123456: me too. gnome phone manager lets me send sms messages via my mobile from the laptop and use the phone as a modem.09:05
danko123456sweet.09:06
Raskalldanko123456: SO comfortable typing on a 102-key keyboard instad of the numeric kbd on the phone.09:06
danko123456I did a project on Bluetooth a few weeks back for telecomm course.09:06
danko123456hehe, awesome.09:06
danko123456Thanatermesis: thanks, and send where?09:06
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fazerHmmm09:06
Thanatermesisyes danko123456, dcc ?09:06
fazerhow do I alternate between channels in irssi?09:07
danko123456nm09:07
Thanatermesisthanks danko12345609:07
danko123456got it?09:07
Thanatermesisyes09:07
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danko123456Yup...09:07
danko123456whats dcc stand for?09:07
Raskalldanko123456: but Ubuntu almost got scrapped before I even tried it. My harddisk broke during the first installation attempt. But I gave it a shot on the new disk and thankfully it worked.09:07
danko123456wow broken hard disk.09:08
danko123456My mouse works in gnome.09:08
danko123456on the iBook.09:08
danko123456Thanatermesis: yes danko123456, dcc ?Thanatermesis: yes danko123456, dcc ?09:08
danko123456heh09:08
danko123456Thanatermesis: yes danko123456, dcc ?danko123456: whats dcc stand for?09:08
Raskalldanko123456: how does ubuntu compare to max os x? I havent tried the latter, but a lot of linux geeks I have talked to doesn't see the need to run linux when they have osx.09:09
danko123456Hey, Ill send you an email maybe in the next few days(after exams,,,)09:09
danko123456Well....09:09
Thanatermesisyes danko123456, are good sent, thanks09:09
danko123456I do personally, its prettier.09:09
magaltavor_phate_,09:09
danko123456wow, youre welcome.09:09
magaltavorphelin, YR WELCOME09:10
danko123456Raskall: gnome is prettier than OSX..09:10
danko123456OSx I dont like the look.09:10
danko123456I like the user interface...09:10
danko123456I set up my linux accordingly.09:10
danko123456LIke, ctrl+q instead of alt+f4...09:10
danko123456And some other shortcuts with that scheme.09:10
Raskalldanko123456: ok. I have decided that I will try an iBook when this intel-box is six feet under.09:10
magaltavordanko123456, i di not think gnome is pritier09:10
danko123456magaltavor: yeah, personal preference.09:11
fazerAnyone know how to switch between channels in Ubuntu?09:11
danko123456I really find myself at home in gnome.09:11
fazerer... irssi I mean.09:11
Raskalldanko123456: so it's nice to know that ubuntu works fine on macs to.09:11
magaltavordanko123456, yeh cause is more rigid then aqua09:11
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magaltavorsorry gnome09:11
danko123456Raskall: there are some things that wont work...09:12
Raskalldanko123456: as in?09:12
danko123456If you can, get some older airport card...09:12
danko123456the extreme dont work in Linux.09:12
Agrajagfazer: alt+number09:12
danko123456magaltavor: whats rigid mean?09:12
Raskalldanko123456: noted.09:13
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magaltavorstronger09:13
danko123456Other stuff too...09:13
danko123456Like, Java PPC is lagging behind,...09:13
danko123456I cant get like, LimeWire to work.;..09:13
danko123456Nor Mplayer.09:13
Raskalldanko123456: but my current laptop is sufficient for a few more months, so maybe that will be fixed when I actually switch.09:13
danko123456But, that may be me:)09:13
magaltavordanko123456, i am not saying that gnome is not good09:13
danko123456Hehe..09:13
danko123456No, just as I said,09:13
Raskalldanko123456: well THAT is a bit more serious. I need mplayer.09:14
danko123456Personal preference.09:14
danko123456Maybe it can work...I am nto sure...09:14
danko123456You are talking to a guy that cant gfet .rm files to run in Mplayer.09:14
danko123456magaltavor: you see I find that aqua is not less rigid than gnome..09:14
Raskallbut now my mini-geek (6 months old daughter) demands some milk. bbl09:14
danko123456I like it its cozy to me...09:15
danko123456gnome...09:15
danko123456:)09:15
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magaltavordanko123456, i am just wondering what is your favorite window manager ?09:15
danko123456dont know, I like them most..09:15
danko123456I dont like windows XP>09:16
danko123456Totally ugly.09:16
mrc3hi all! how can i watch a DVD? i tried Totem, wxvlc, BMP, and no joy. i get different errors. i'm on ppc09:16
danko123456Windows classic...09:16
danko123456ok...09:16
jsgotangcohave you tried xine or kaffeine09:16
danko123456then, I really like gnome...09:16
danko123456Aqua is like, transparent I dont like it...09:16
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go1dfishas far as full fledged gui's go I like gnome the best09:17
danko123456Its either silver(blah for me)09:17
KKXXGnome is the best09:17
danko123456I can agree so far.09:17
go1dfishI dont really use guis anymore though09:17
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go1dfishive been running ratpoison for about a year now09:17
go1dfishits great09:17
danko123456hehe09:17
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fazerhi09:17
Raskallwell, if this isn't a cosy desktop, I don't know what is: http://rolfas.net/Screenshot.png (warning, 1600x1200 file, a bit big)09:18
danko123456hi fazer09:18
fazerhm, nuts, brb.09:18
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danko123456I keep a blank page...09:18
danko123456I mean, desktop..09:18
MFKRGuys, I have a big problem here.09:18
danko123456I like it pleasant for the eyes...09:19
danko123456MFKR: ahhhh09:19
Raskalldanko123456: I need my daughter (who fell asleep again) easily available.09:19
danko123456I am a CS major in school.09:19
danko123456So I learned about GUIs..09:19
MFKRI'm trying to install ubuntu, but it does like all my other Linux distros I've tried to install: it gets stuck when booting the installation saying "initiliazing USB mass storage drivers".09:19
MFKRI don't have any USB device plugged or installed on the PC I'm trying to install it on though.09:20
danko123456more info.09:20
MFKRAnd even skipping the USB probing makes it freeze.09:20
danko123456Yeah, thats pertty cosy, Raskall09:20
MFKRMy MOBO is a nForce 2 with USB 2.0.09:20
danko123456thats weird...09:21
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danko123456why does it even ask for USB?09:21
danko123456mine never did09:21
MFKRNo idea.09:21
danko123456hm...09:21
mrc3xine and everyone says: "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable." what gives?09:21
danko123456Agrajag, or someone who actually knows what he is takling about?09:22
MFKREverything is correctly plugged in on the mobo, every jumpers are where the should be.09:22
danko123456mrc3: well, xine...09:22
MFKRAnd I even tried installing it on a clean HDD on the same computer.09:22
MFKRAnd it gave the same problem.09:22
danko123456Do you know how to install programs from source code?09:22
MFKRNo.09:22
danko123456mrc3: Do you know how to install programs from source code?09:22
MFKRo09:22
MFKRNevermind about that no :P09:23
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danko123456hm, that is strange, I dont really know what to do, but, ask the question again, someone will know...09:23
membreyayou need to install CSS09:24
danko123456mrc3: membreya: you need to install CSS09:24
danko123456heh09:24
membreyasudo apt-get install libdvdcss209:25
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danko123456mrc3: you can also after you do that go get MPlayer...09:25
fazerhello09:25
danko123456But, that is not easy, to get everything going.09:25
fazerHow do I reload my video driver?09:25
danko123456fazer: Hi again!09:25
fazerdanko123456: ;)09:25
MFKRWell, is there anyone with extensive knowledge of Linux who I could PM and that it would not bother?09:25
danko123456um...09:26
danko123456:)09:26
danko123456lol09:26
danko123456k, later guys, my bed is calling me, SMSd me and all.09:26
membreyalol09:26
danko123456Night Guys!09:26
fazergood night09:26
danko123456thanks.09:26
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K-Richcrimsun: can i get your repository info again ?09:26
fazerdamn it, how do I re-load my video driver?09:26
markumanre-load? stop x and start xserver09:27
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|QuaD-crimsun has a repository?09:28
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MFKRGuys, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my other PC, but the install gets stuck during boot at Initializing USB mass storage drivers every time. I don't have any USB device plugged in or installed, and my MOBO is a NForce 2 with USB 2.0 drivers. Anyone knows what's happening?09:28
MFKRI,m asking again since Danko couldn't help ;-;09:28
fazermarkuman: what if i reboot, is it the same thing?09:28
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markumansure....one very radical methode is Strg+Alt+Backspace fazer09:29
markumanbut why reload?09:29
fazermarkuman: wait, so, rebooting is the same thing as that?09:30
fazermarkuman: well, I replaced a .o file in the /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ folder...09:30
fazermarkuman: I rebooted, but...nothing much changed.09:30
markumanif you reboot, the system load everything new09:30
fazermarkuman: so...since I have done that, no need to reload x, right?09:30
mrc3late thanks for the answers, danko!09:30
mrc3membreya, is there any special repo for libdvdcss2?09:31
markumanif you have reboot, you have restart xserver new too09:31
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borgistaHello everyone.09:31
membreyamrc3: just go to www.ubuntuguide.org09:31
markumanmrc3? do you meen nerim server?09:31
mrc3i mean, i can't find it in universe with synaptic09:32
borgistaA quick question as to .rar files.09:32
fazermarkuman: hmm thanks.09:32
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MFKRThis is quite infuriating >.<09:32
markumanmrc3: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html09:32
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MFKRI left my computer open for 20 minutes, hoping the freeze on the initialization would go away, and it didn't.09:33
borgistaI downloaded a film and it comes in many .rar files. In Warty I would type $ rar e filename.r00 and it would extract them all into the .avi file, but in Hoary it's different. Any ideas?09:33
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liableMFKR: look through the boot parameers to see if there is a 'no usb' option09:33
Plexyshi, does anyone know what the typical directory is for ubuntu to install packages in?09:34
liables/parameers/parameters09:34
Plexysi've been trying to install this skin for mplayer but i can't seem to figure out where to move it09:34
MFKR<liable> MFKR: look through the boot parameers to see if there is a 'no usb' option <- I tried this, and it didn't do any good. It still froze.09:35
borgistai think /usr/lib/mplayer Plexys09:35
borgistaor maybe /usr/local/lib/mplayer09:35
borgistasomething liket hat.09:35
borgistathat*09:35
borgistaand there should be a skin folder.09:35
borgistaI believe.09:35
bur[n] erborgista: u need the rar from multiverse09:37
bur[n] erand then it still doesn't work with file-roller for some reason :\09:37
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borgistaalright.09:37
bur[n] erbut rar e blah.rar works09:37
Agrajagyou shouldn't use efor extracting rar files, use x09:38
bur[n] er *** 3.30-2 009:38
bur[n] er        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages09:38
MFKRI guess no one can help me with this one. Gah, this is stupid, why the heck would Live versions boot but not installs?09:38
Agrajage ignores paths in the archive09:38
borgistathank you bur[n] er09:38
membreyaMFKR: because its a preview?09:38
bur[n] erAgrajag: even in the non-free rar?09:38
Agrajagbur[n] er: rar is rar09:38
bur[n] erthanks for the tip :)09:39
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MFKRmembreya, it's still pretty stupid that Live CD's don't query for a USB mass storage device, yet full versions do.09:39
MFKRKnoppix and Ubuntu Live both boot, but Fedora and Ubuntu installation CD's won't because they query for an unexisting device.09:40
|QuaD-does anyone know the keystroke combination for openoffice for super and subscript?09:40
CredHello. I have a problem with DVB (Hauppauge Nova-T using firmware tda1004x). I want to watch DVB from Ubuntu Hoary but I have been unable to get this work (no /dev/video0 or /dev/vbi devices). I'll pay $10 (paypal) or 10e (money transfer) for that person who can help me to make things work :)09:41
upsbur[n] er: that bug was fixed very recently in file-roller, where it can't extract rar files even though unrar is installed09:41
fazerHey, how do you traceroute something?09:41
membreyafazer: tracepath09:41
fazermembreya: ah thanks09:41
upsfazer: apps > system toole > network tools ?09:41
upss/toole/tools09:42
membreyaups: that's lazy :P09:42
bur[n] erups: it used to work in debian :\09:42
upsmembreya: :)09:42
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membreyai think k/ubuntu risks what the recent versions of windows have suffered from ..people running an OS but not knowing the core of it ...or even having a basic understanding09:43
membreyathat's why I'm trying to learn as many commands as I can :)09:43
upsbur[n] er: yeah, it used to work in a older version, but stopped working in newer versions. but now it's fixed in cvs09:43
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upsmembreya: learning commands if fine, but those gui tools look cool too, especially if u dont know the command ;)09:44
bur[n] erups: thanks for the heads up... hopefully a hoary backport is released soon after new file-roller :)09:44
topylimembreya: at least you can learn them :)09:44
MFKRRargh, I'm going crazy over this.09:44
infornographyWhy is it that when I use XFCE instead of gnome, I get no sound?09:44
membreyalol topyli ;) ....yes some people lack retention ..ask the same thing multiple times :)09:44
infornographyI can run esd from the command line to fix it, but there must be a better way09:44
hejuxhello09:45
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hejuxanybody could help ?09:45
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MFKRIs there a way to make Ubuntu's installer not probe ANYTHING?09:46
membreyadamnit I wish bug 7183 would get fixed :| I wanna use renderaccel09:46
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mrc3markuman, thanks for the pointer!! i can now play a dvd (sloooooow as frozen hell) with wxvlc. totem and xine fail to play it, though, and the other dvd i tried it with didn't work09:46
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membreyamrc3: have you enabled DMA?09:47
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mrc3"Can't seek to block 1470883", and can't seek to any other block. i get the fbi warning, though09:47
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mrc3membreya, where DMA stands for...?09:47
membreyamrc3: do a sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdx (where hdx is your dvd drive)09:47
membreyathen try playing your DVD again09:48
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liableMFKR: I dont know how many kernel options there are on the cd, but have you tried a diff kernel09:50
mrc3same: "libdvdread: Can't seek to block 536148", and DMA is now on09:50
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mrc3(did i mention i'm on ppc?) (if that matters...)09:50
MFKR<liable> MFKR: I dont know how many kernel options there are on the cd, but have you tried a diff kernel <- I tried on Fedora Core as well.09:52
MFKRAnd it locked up at the exact same place.09:52
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RaskallAs time goes I get more and more surprised that people actually pay for software. No matter what OS they run. I just discovered clamwin, the windows version of clamav, and it does a fabulous job without waste of system resources.09:52
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MFKRKeeps querying for a USB storage device09:52
beowu1fany fellow south africans here?09:52
MFKREven though I have none.09:53
Burgundaviabeowu1f, there are a few09:53
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fazerhello, how do I mount a USB drive?09:53
fazerI am using xfce4, so the icon doesn't appear anymore.09:54
membreyamrc3: do a sudo modprobe -r ide-cd and then do a sudo modprobe ide-scsi09:54
Raskallfazer: mount /dev/deviceid /media/mountpoint09:54
fazerRaskall: how do I know the deviceid?09:54
Raskallfazer: run dmesg to se if your usb drive is detected by the system.09:54
Raskallfazer: what kind of device is it? flashdisk? camera? harddrive?09:54
fazerRaskall: a USB mass storage (mp3 device)09:55
Raskallfazer "tail /var/log/messages" after plugging the device in shows you the device id, I think.09:55
beowu1ffazer: usually device is sda or sda109:55
beowu1ftail -f09:55
Raskallfazer: but as beowu1f says, its usually sda1 (never seen it to be sda)09:55
fazerbeowu1f said that? strange.09:56
fazerI didn't see it09:56
fazerokay, let me try it09:56
Raskall09:55 < beowu1f> fazer: usually device is sda or sda109:56
beowu1fwhyz that strange?09:56
membreyamrc3: what's the GO ?09:56
Raskallbeowulf: maybe theres a strange lag somewhere.09:56
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beowu1fmy ipod is sda.. for some reason when i mount09:57
Raskallbeowulf: hmm.. strange.09:57
mrc3membreya, rmmod ide_cd: "ERROR: Module ide_cd is in use"09:57
membreyamrc3: .....umount your CD/DVD firstly...obviously.09:57
Raskallbeowu1f: maybe ipod uses some other filesystem than FAT?09:57
MFKRAlright, I just realized something interesting. The installer seems to recognize something plugged in the USB port (port 2 actually), but there's nothing there.09:58
Raskallbeowulf: scratch that. Shouldn't mean anything.09:58
beowu1fRaskall HFS actually09:58
MFKRI tried to re-boot the installer but with the USB probing turned off, but it still probed for USB.09:58
fazerRaskall: hmm, my USB disk has free space, but it says it sfull...09:58
Raskallfazer: is there som kind of write protection turned on in the device?09:58
MFKRWhat's the full command I'd need to input for it to noot probe for any USB port?09:59
Raskallfazer: and do you see the content already there?09:59
mrc3membreya, umounted and still "ide_cd is in use"09:59
membreyabeowu1f: i was about to say it should be HFS if it's a mac iPod09:59
fazerRaskall: yes.09:59
fazerRaskall: I created an empty dir in /media called /media/test09:59
fazerRaskall: then I mounted /sda1 in /media/test09:59
Raskallfazer: then my bet is that the device is write protected.09:59
fazercd'ed into /media/test, i saw everything there but with shorter file name.s09:59
membreyamrc3: edit your /etc/modules file, comment out ide-cd and put in ide-cd ...then reboot09:59
beowu1fmembreya: indeed.. can format as vfs if you want to i spose... nice to keep it native though09:59
Raskallfazer: if not I am not sure how to help you more.10:00
fazerRaskall: really...in Windows it worked fine though...so, how can I un write protected.10:00
membreyaPC iPods are VFAT ..AFAIK10:00
beowu1fany fellow south africans here... from port elizabeth or durban?10:00
fazerdamn10:00
Raskallfazer: good point. hmm.. could you do a "df" command and paste the line with sda1 here+10:01
Raskall?10:01
MFKRWhat's the full command I'd need to input for it to noot probe for any USB port? I tried to do it earlier with the command in the help index, but it still scanned them when booting the installer, and I need to installer to not to that th ing.10:01
topylibeowu1f: looking for company to watch the finnish hockey final? to me, that's the only reason to seek for local people today :)10:01
mrc3membreya, you mean, "and put in ide-scsi", right?10:01
fazerRaskall: right away10:01
membreyamrc3: ..thankyou .. I'm not running on much sleep ;)10:02
fazerRaskall: /dev/sda1             247M  247M     0 100% /media/test10:02
fazerRaskall: also note that the max capacity of this song is 256 MB10:02
mrc3membreya, thank you for the hints!10:02
Raskallfazer: a 256 MB card? 256 MB isn't 256 MB. my 128 MB sd card can never hold more than 122 megs.10:02
mrc3i hate rebooting. my other partitions is a linux from scratch, and i once i didn't reboot my laptop for 8 months10:03
membreyamrc3: we all hate rebooting :P10:03
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membreyait's so windowsesque10:03
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Raskallfazer: the hardware pusheres figures 1K as 1000 bytes and the operating systems normally sees 1K as 1024 butes.10:04
fazerRaskall: yeah...however I deleted some stuff to make sure..10:04
membreyaRaskall: ....1024 bytes..as it SHOULD be.10:04
mrc3(gee i just looked at what i wrote... man, do i need to `modprobe grammar`!)10:04
Raskallmembreya: yup.10:04
mrc3thanks! later!10:04
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membreyafriggin harddrive manufacturers.10:04
Raskallmembreya: but the producers of hardware uses 1000 bytes to fool consumers to think they are buying more than they get.10:04
liableMFKR: is there an expert mode for the install?10:05
fazerRaskall: how do I unmount my USB drive?10:05
membreyaexactly.10:05
Raskallfazer: umount /dev/sda110:05
Raskallfazer: after you cd out of the mount point10:05
fazerRaskall: ah yeah10:05
Raskallcd=chdir10:05
MFKRliable, yes.10:06
liableMFKR: maybe try that, I think you can skip hardware detection with it10:06
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beowu1ftopyli: ummm say again... u from PE SA?10:07
MFKRIt's during the booting of the installer though, and I just tried it, still froze.10:08
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MFKREven with debian-installer/probe/usb=flase parameters on.10:08
MFKR*false10:08
MFKRSo I'm sort of lost and confused here.10:08
MFKRWhy does it probe even if I ask it not to?10:08
liableMFKR: hmm, dunno10:08
fazerRaskall: thanks =)10:08
Raskalldammit.. my computer is SO hot. right now the temperature is 88 degrees centigrade (190.4F) inside.10:08
topylibeowu1f: i'm from finland and only joking (except about the importance of the final of course :)10:08
MFKROh, I just saw that it gives me the full name of the error.10:08
Raskallfazer: np.10:08
membreyaRaskall: don't worry.. I've run my amd64 at 120c :P10:09
beowu1ftopyli: hehe gotcha..10:09
MFKRusb 2-1: device descriptor read 64/error -101 or something like that.10:09
Raskallmembreya: my wlan card don't want to play any more when it passes 85c. So I nearly don't use it any more. Thank heaven for ethernet-cables.10:10
camcorderi can't make my compiled kernel boot on hoary10:10
liableMFKR: sounds maybe a hardware prob10:10
camcorderwell it really sucks10:10
camcordermkinitrd doesn't write any file10:10
camcorderand even though I triple checked everything, i cna't make the damn kernel boot10:10
membreyaRaskall: ... I've got an ultra cool tower from msi on my CPU now..noisy as hell at full strength but it works :)10:10
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MFKRliable, well, it seems like it's trying to detect a USB storage device that sadly does not exist.10:11
MFKRSo it gets an error.10:11
Raskallmembreya: My computer is a laptop with Pentium 4M. It's smoking hot. :)10:11
membreyaRaskall: powernow isn't kicking in ?10:11
MFKRIs it possible to use the echo command in the boot prompt?10:12
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MFKRI've found a website with a similar problem and the guy says to use echo N > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first to clear a problem pertaining to a USB storage device.10:12
Raskallmembreya: powernow works, but the fan just cant take the heat low enough. And now I run vmware with win xp, so disk i/o is high. As soon as I kill vmware with xp the temp drops to about 50c10:12
membreyahmmm aren't there addons for laptops to assist cooling Raskall ?10:13
prometheHas anybody got Gartoon theme for KDE?10:13
promethe(kde-looks.org is now dead)10:13
Raskallmembreya: havent found any. but haven't looked too hard either. it didn't become a problem until i started using vmware a few days ago. vmware will be rarely booted, so it really isn't a big problem.10:14
liableMFKR: what happens when you plug something into that port10:14
MFKRGive me a sec,I gotta switch PC. I'll try echoing and plugging something in.10:14
topyliRaskall: 50 degrees is still hot. watch your valuables if you have the laptop on your lap! :)10:14
membreyaRaskall: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3708&item=6759517151&rd=110:14
MFKRGetting on the other PC.10:14
prometheHas anybody got Gartoon theme for KDE?10:15
Raskallaghh.. something is hanging. firefox and nautilus won't launch.10:15
topyliRaskall: i think you have hardware trouble there :(10:15
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Raskalltopyli: mm.. with my wlan-card. will buy a new "external" one as soon as my paycheck arrives. But the naut/firef-think was related to vmware. virtualization on a 4200-disk isn't exactly recommended.10:16
Raskall:)10:17
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MyNameIsChrisAnyone know where I can download Grub splashscreens?10:17
topyliwell, i don't think virtualization is recommended period :)10:17
membreyapromethe: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/17287695/ ?10:18
promethemembreya Yeah, but I'm seeking for KDE edition to make my desktop more unified10:18
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Raskalltopyli: rather that than having a partition for windows for booting every 2-3 months. Just need windows for family support and browser testing of web pages.10:20
topyliyeah10:20
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fazerRaskall: do you know why ubuntu shortens the filenames?10:21
fazerRaskall: of files in the usb drive?10:21
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Raskallfazer: try to add "-t vfat" when mounting. without it mounts it as fat1610:21
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fazerRaskall: oh... strange.10:21
|QuaD-topyli: uses virtualizations, to test out other distros10:21
Raskallfazer: that is "mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /media/mountpoint"10:22
topylifazer: you've mounted it as a dos drive and get MICROS~1 flienames10:22
fazertopyli: ooh, so Raskall's advice will be fine then?10:22
topylii guess10:22
fazerRaskall: does gnome automatically do that?10:22
beowu1fsorry guys last time...any fellow south africans here?10:22
topylifazer: it's filesystem incompatibility, not gnome related10:22
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fazertopyli: strange, the last time gnome mounted it, it was fine..10:23
prometheI've just fall in love with AmaroK...10:23
topylifazer: i guess it made a more intelligent guess about the filesystem that time :)10:23
prometheGreat media player10:23
fazertopyli: hmm yeha, probably.  thanks10:23
fazerSo, who here uses xmms?10:23
|QuaD-beowu1f: mark shuttleworth is :)10:23
ShachafDoes Ubuntu have a package that contains irb?10:23
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ShachafOr GTK2 for Ruby?10:24
Bazzithe ruby package should install irb10:24
prometheShachaf you can install this via synaptic10:24
Shachafpromethe: I did.10:25
Shachafpromethe: I don't have irb.10:25
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prometheShachaf did you enabled multiuniverse?10:25
prometheBTW. Next ubuntu relase will be breezy what?10:26
Shachafpromethe: What do you mean?10:26
beowu1f|QuaD- yes he is indeed10:26
membreyabadgar promethe10:26
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prometheShachaf did you enabled multiuniverse respositories10:26
fazerHmm, would anyone know of a good IDE that edits PHP files but cna also save to FTP servers?10:26
fazeror basically a file editor with syntax highlighting that can save to FTP/SFTP?10:27
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beowu1fis anyone here a wireless fundi..10:27
fazerLike Window's EditPlus10:27
beowu1fim trying to figure out how in the world im connected to the net right now.. know it sounds strange but bear with me..10:28
FreezerXgood morning, ubuntu crashed again on my notebook while I was sleeping. The only keys that worked were ctrl+alt+del :-| The last message I saw on the screen was "NTFS-fs error (device hda1) nftfs-ucstonls(); Unicode name contains characters that cannot be converted to characters set cp437"  Any idea how to prevent ubuntu from crashing again?10:28
prometheI love ubuntu names :] 10:28
prometheWarty Warthog10:29
Shachafpromethe: How would I enable that?10:29
promethePerky Penguin10:29
prometheShachaf wait a while10:29
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prometheShachaf http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories10:29
Shachafpromethe: Thank you.10:29
beowu1fi went today to go buy a wireles-g adaptor card from office depo which i'm currently using but i'm not running dhcpcd wlan0 and yet my AP is still assigning me an IP10:30
|QuaD-promethe: don't forget  slutty seagul ditsy dog!10:30
huai want to do that when monitor is into screen-save the lock display auto exec. how to do10:30
promethe|QuaD- what? :] 10:30
|QuaD-promethe: slutty seagull and ditsy dog, the releases after perky penguin10:31
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liableFreezerX: you write to ntfs?10:31
promethe|QuaD- is it official names?10:31
|QuaD-promethe: i am kidding :)10:31
|QuaD-hehe10:31
|QuaD-on that note i am going to bed10:31
|QuaD-night10:31
promethe:] 10:32
fazer|QuaD-: do you know of a text editor that can write/save to FTP ?10:32
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|QuaD-fazer: why would one want that?10:32
markuman:-D10:32
markumanuse gedit for editor and ftp in xterm ;-)10:33
|QuaD-fazer: all that would be doing would be downloading it, modifying it, and uploading it, so you can do it manually10:33
FreezerXliable, no, I was sleeping :-)10:33
Shachafpromethe: OK, it worked.10:33
Shachafpromethe: Thank you again.10:33
fazer|QuaD-: well, a GUI would be nice =/10:33
prometheShachaf have a nice day :)10:33
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prometheWhoa, I've just recived info about new updates in official hoary core10:34
fazer|QuaD-: but you try downloading, editing and then remembering the ftp commands, that is very time consuming.10:34
prometheFirst update from relasing :] 10:34
MFKRAlright, I found what may very well be my problem.10:34
gooniejust installed mplayer and I get this error when I start it: "New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)"10:34
|QuaD-fazer: well, i try not to use gui, i use vim and console ftp10:34
goonieanyone know how to fix that?10:34
|QuaD-fazer: i remember the scripts, not time consuming10:34
MFKRSeems like Windows doesn't like uninstalling jump drives that get plugged into its USB ports.10:34
|QuaD-fazer: you can probably script something into a scriptable text editor10:34
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liableMFKR: what does windows have to do with it10:35
BlackLabelis there a mythtv package i can apt-get?10:35
topylithere's a bug in nethack, those darn monsters kill me in every game10:36
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membreyalol topyli :P10:36
fazer|QuaD-: nevermind, found elvis =/10:36
liablegoonie: did you install mplayer-fonts, just a long shot10:36
topyliheh10:36
prometheBlackLabel http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories10:36
prometheAnd do sudo apt-get install10:36
MFKRliable, Windows Xp seems to create hardware errors when you simply yank out an USB device it seems.10:36
prometheWhat backports are doing my frirends?10:36
goonieliable~ err... no. there is a special package for the fonts? running synaptic now10:37
MFKROnce I tried plugging in my jumpdrive in the USB port, it gave me the same error and then booted in scsi emulation mode.10:37
krrhanyone running an Inspiron 1000?10:37
MFKRIt still froze though.10:37
BlackLabelwhere can i find a howto on how to install my tuner card?10:37
liableMFKR: yep, but that shouldnt be applicable to ubuntu install cd, maybe the plug is faulty10:37
MFKRCould be.10:37
MFKRWe'll see what happens now.10:37
liableMFKR: try unpluging the plug10:37
MFKRToo lazy to open the casing :P10:38
liableMFKR: if you know what I mean :)10:38
prometheFor what I can use backports? huh?10:38
liableMFKR: well, dont winge when it doesnt work :)10:38
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MFKREh, well, it's close to my bed time anyway.10:38
MFKRI'll try this one once more, then get ready for sleep.10:39
RaskallHmm.. how long does it take to get the cd-s I ordered of ubuntu?10:39
prometheRaskall 4-6 weeks10:41
prometheI'm still waitng for my order10:41
promethe:] 10:41
Raskallpromethe: ok.10:41
prometheRaskall 4-6 weeks from now10:41
kev0rhow do i get proftpd to log?10:41
Raskallpromethe: I ordered 50 of them a couple of weeks ago. I am going to bother the hell out of my windows-loving friends.10:41
prometheRaskall I'm going to do the same10:41
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MFKRHahahaha.10:42
MFKRIt didn'10:42
MFKRIt didn't work.10:42
MFKRBut now I know why.10:42
Raskallpromethe: I have wanted to do this a lot earlier, but haven't really felt that the distros I used was good enough for beginers. But ubuntu just works.10:42
MFKROh man, I'm such a stupid bastard.10:42
liabledo share10:43
MFKRMy memory card scandrive is plugged in USB, but inside the computer.10:43
MFKRWhich is why I didn't think about it.10:43
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prometheRaskall I found then ubuntu is much better then any other distro - it has got tools that you just need, no "pierdylions" of additional, conflictable, unusable soft... And its without next "pierdylions" wizards10:43
liablewith a dead weazel even10:44
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MFKRI deserved that slap, thanks.10:44
MFKRAlright, so when I do wake up, I'll be unplugging this thing. I don't need it anyway.10:44
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MFKRFor now, I'll just uninstall it and hope Windows doesn't re-install it thanks to pnp.10:44
Raskallpromethe: I love that it comes with just one desktop choice and only on one cd. The other distros has had way to much overlapping software options.10:44
membreyakev0r: edit your /etc/syslog.conf and add ftp.*                   /var/log/proftpd.log10:44
prometheRaskall Yeah, one cd and one desktop is great - no conflicts10:45
RaskallHmm.. ubuntu (as the first distro) detected my webcam correctly. But what can I use it for? *sigh* Is there a way to video-conference with my msn-friends, for instance?10:46
drummer87hi, what's the best way to run windows progs under linux (indesign CS, photoshop 7, tv viewing software)?10:46
BlackLabeli dont know of any open source IMs that do that Raskall10:46
drummer87indesign in particular10:47
prometheRaskall Yeah, manage them tu use linux :] 10:47
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RaskallBlackLabel: me neither.10:47
cens0redarg. Get no support from ubuntuforums at all.10:47
Raskallpromethe: but how can i videoconference with them in linux? GnomeMeeting?10:47
liabledrummer87: look at wine10:48
prometheRaskall try Mercury http://www.mercury.to/10:48
prometheFor windows, linux and macos10:48
membreyagaim-vv allows you to video conference10:48
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membreyabut good luck getting it10:48
prometheRaskall and compatibile with MSN10:48
membreyaerm10:48
membreyaconfiguring it even10:48
membreyaewwww10:48
membreyajava based promethe10:49
Raskallpromethe: hmm.. will try it.10:49
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promethemembreya Is it bad?10:49
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Raskallmembreya: but still it is needed as a selling point for windows idio^H^H^H^Husers10:49
membreyai just don't like invoking any more processes than what I need ;)10:49
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gooniemplayer hangs when I try to play a video file and I can't play any kind of media over the network. MP3's won't play but the play just fine of the local machine. Video won't play at all :(10:50
Gav`hey guys, can anyone tell me if Ubuntu has a couple of features? Namely, is it compiled for i686 or i386 (like standard Debian), and does it use NPTL?10:50
RaskallWHAT? 38 megs for an IM-client? this had better be good.10:51
topyliGav`: 38610:51
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RaskallI tried qnext, also java-based, but it only text-communicated with msn10:51
Terry1ubuntu 5.04 won't detect dvd drive during install, any ideas?10:51
Gav`topyli: thanks, I guess the performance increase isn't big enough to warrant the 686 compile?10:52
liablegoonie: try changing the video driver, did you get the win32 codecs10:52
ShavnirHi.  I'm Shavnir, I just installed Ubuntu on my PC, and I have problems.10:52
RaskallShavnir: solving problems is what makes you learn. :) what kind of problems.10:52
ShachafShavnir: And those problems are?10:53
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ShavnirWell, the ethernet ports on my motherboard don't seem to be sync'ing up with the uni's DHCP properly10:53
ShavnirAnd for whatever reason I can't seem to mount the other hard drives.10:53
topyliGav`: dunno about performance, seems good enough as it is. they probably don't want to support builds for every sub-architecture10:53
goonieliable~ where can I get the win32 codecs? they don't show in synaptic10:53
RaskallShavnir: do you get an ip at all?10:53
Burgundaviagoonie, see www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:53
liablegoonie: you have marillat in your source list?10:53
ShavnirRaskall : Nope10:53
nydustwhere in apache2 do i enable php? I have done an apt-get install apache2 and all the php4 libs, but it dosent work10:54
ShachafShavnir: What FS do you have on your other drives?10:54
RaskallShavnir: are you sure your nics are supported?10:54
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BurgundaviaGav`, 38610:54
ShavnirShachaf : FAT3210:54
goonieliable~ marillat? no never heard of it10:54
ShachafShavnir: And how are you trying to mount them?10:54
ShavnirRaskall : No idea, any suggestion where I can lookup what chipset my motherboard uses for its lan ports?10:54
Burgundaviagoonie, see the above link10:54
gooniek thx10:54
Burgundaviagoonie, it will walk you through getting everything10:54
liablegoonie: w32codecs10:54
ShavnirShachaf : using "mount hda0" or "mount hdb"10:54
prometheCan somebody explain me what are backports?10:54
Gav`topyli: fair point, my work machine is currently using Gentoo where people seem to complain if they don't eke out every available drop of speed out of a machine...any idea if hoary uses NPTL (which AFAIK does have some beneficial performance increases)?10:55
Shavnirerr, hdb1 and hda2.10:55
Burgundaviapromethe, when somebody takes a program that is not in hoary and makes it available for hoary users, generally a bad idea10:55
topylipromethe: new upstream versions, compiled on the current stable release10:55
liablepromethe: new programs made to work for older os's10:55
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ShachafShavnir: Do you have an entry in your fstab?10:55
RaskallShavnir: nah.. My nics has always just worked. but there are some gui apps in the system-menu that lets you view your hardware. dmesg might also help a bit, but I don't know what you should grep for10:55
ShavnirShachaf : They don't have an entry in my fstab10:56
pepsipepsi asdf10:56
ShavnirBut a fdisk -l shows them.10:56
ShachafShavnir: What directory are you trying to mount them on?10:56
ShavnirWether or not that's helpful I don't know :p10:56
fazerDoes anyone here use gnome-vfs?10:56
ShavnirWell, I run the command while in /dev10:56
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ShavnirOdd thing is earlier today I was using the live CD and it seemed to mount the drives just fine.10:56
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emiliethe tmp folder10:57
topyliGav`: this is the first time i heard about nptl (had to google), so i can't say if it's used :)10:57
prometheIs there any theme for KDE which is similar to Clearlooks?10:57
ShachafShavnir: Try ``mkdir /mnt/somedir''.10:57
ShachafShavnir: And then ``mount /dev/yourdevice /mnt/somedir''.10:57
drummer87how about this.. can i run windows os inside ubuntu (with windows already installed on a separate partition)?10:57
ShavnirOkay10:57
emilieI've lost a file in the tmp folder. Can anyone help?10:57
ShavnirPermission denied to make a directionry :\10:58
ShachafShavnir: Are you root?10:58
ShachafShavnir: Or sudoing?10:58
fazerDoes anyone here use gnome-vfs?10:58
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topylifazer: everyone, i guess :)10:59
ShavnirShachaf : Not root, and my recent sudo attempt gave me "unable to lookup wintermute by gethostbynakme()" (wintermute is my system's name)10:59
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ShavnirShachaf : Then "shavnir@wintermute:/etc$ postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory"10:59
fazertopyli: how do I utilize it?10:59
RaskallMercury actually looks kinda cute. :)10:59
topylifazer: i don't understand. gnome apps use it by nature, you don't have to worry about it11:00
ShachafShavnir: You have to be root/sudoing to mount drives.11:00
fazertopyli: oh...11:00
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ShachafShavnir: Unless they're in the fstab.11:00
RaskallBut of course noen of my friends with webcams are online. *sigh*11:00
ShavnirShachaf : What's the default root password?11:00
ShachafShavnir: There is none.11:01
fazertopyli: like...really?11:01
fazertopyli: how do I read from a FTP server?11:01
ShachafShavnir: Give your own password to sudo.11:01
fazerk11:01
fazerkj11:01
fazerwhoops11:01
RhymesShavnir: sudo passwd root and u get back your root account11:01
topylifazer: go to places -> connect to server11:01
gomlorHi, can I use my encrypted partition after a clean reinstall?11:01
ShachafRhymes: Why?11:01
topylifazer: the places menu11:01
emilieI've wrote an essay and saved it, god knows why, in the /tmp folder. Today when I tried to open the document it was gone!! Why? And how do I retrieve it?11:02
ShachafRhymes: If you want a root shell, ``sudo su -''.11:02
upsRhymes: please don't ercommend that11:02
Gav`topyli: thanks for looking :)11:02
ShavnirSo what exactly should I be doing?11:02
fazertopyli: oh yeah, damn, i remember...hmmm i wonder where that can be in xxfce?11:02
Shavnirsudo mkdir /mnt/something11:02
upsShavnir: use sudo11:02
ShachafShavnir: Yes.11:02
upsShavnir: yes11:02
upsShavnir: and then type your own password11:03
Shavnirups : It dosen't shift into the input mode you normally get with passwords.11:03
Rhymesi always use sudo, but times ago i needed full root account so, i prefer keeping it enabled11:03
topylifazer: if you use xfce, launch nautilus and find it in the "file" menu11:03
Shavnirerrr11:04
ShavnirOkay, this is embarassing :\11:04
upsShavnir: sorry didn't understand... ?11:04
fazertopyli: oh..11:04
ShavnirI think I ran sudo a while ago.  'cause it seems to have created the directories.11:04
emilie I've wrote an essay and saved it, god knows why, in the /tmp folder. Today when I tried to open the document it was gone!! Why? And how do I retrieve it? Please help someone11:04
ShavnirI ran sudo a while back so i guess it didn't prompt me for my password.11:04
Shachafemilie: I don't think you can.11:05
upsShavnir: yes, it lasts for 15 mins perhaps, tho i'm not sure11:05
emilieRetrieve it?11:05
Shachafups: I think it's 5 minutes.11:05
emilieShachaf:Why?11:05
upsRhymes: you may use it, but don't recommend others to use it ;)11:05
ShavnirIt lasts long enough to confuse me, lol.11:05
Shachafemilie: Because it was deleted.11:05
liableemilie: ext2fs, google for it11:05
Rhymesups: ok, understood, i'm sorry :)11:05
Shachafemilie: MC (Midnight Commander) might be able to, though.11:05
upsShavnir: nothing to be confused, if u get the password prompt, type it, else just carry on :)11:06
Shachafemilie: I think it has some sort of ext2 undeleting features.11:06
emilieShachaf: Is it in my ubuntu deffault?11:06
upsRhymes: :-)11:06
ShavnirShachaf: I did the mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/somedir11:06
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Shachafemilie: I don't know.11:07
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Shachafemilie: No.11:07
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enycmoo de beep ;-)11:07
ShachafShavnir: Did it work?11:07
enycUrrrrm, does anybody here know about 2.6.11-1 ubuntu package kernel breaking on some systems where the 2.6.10 package works [in hoary]  ?11:07
Shachafemilie: ``sudo apt-get install mc''.11:08
fazertopyli: thanks =/ is there any other way of doing that?11:08
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ShavnirShachaf : Well, I didn't see anything pop up. :|  Also on the other drive I tried it on it says it needs to have the filesystem type specified11:08
topyliemilie: if your file was in /tmp and especially if cron has done its houseworking stuff, your essay is gone11:08
liableShavnir: whats the file system?11:08
topylifazer: not hat i know of11:09
upsShavnir: you need to mention the filesystem, just append `-t type` to the command11:09
ShachafShavnir: Is the other drive also FAT32?11:09
fazertopyli: so, when i have done that, will it be availble even after a restart?11:09
upsShavnir: replace type with the filesystem ofcourse11:09
liableemilie: ext2fs, google it and try it11:09
ShavnirShachaf : I thought so.  Although on second look I think its NTFS :|11:09
topylifazer: you can bookmark it11:09
fazertopyli: bookmark my ftp server?11:09
emilieLiable: Is it a package?11:09
camcorderfsck says me I should install better version of it, but there's no newer version of it on repos.11:10
camcorderit does not fix or check my ext3 partition11:10
liableemilie: yes, do as I said and you will see11:10
topylifazer: i think you'll have to use the browser mode nautilus to see the bookmarks menu. anyway, i've bookmarked my (ssh) server on my work box and it works11:10
fazertopyli: oh....do you use xfce?11:10
ShavnirErr wait, the NTFS partition is already mounted11:10
topylifazer: no, i use gnome. but i reckon nautilus is nautilus :)11:11
prometheis there any soft for gnome which will change wallpaper for every e.g. 5 mins?11:11
fazertopyli: hehe, indeed.11:11
ShavnirIt says its mounted to /mnt/somedir11:11
enyccamc: please copy the message r.e. newer version , actual text [?] 11:11
fazertopyli: I am on a old laptop that is why things are a little laggy for me =(11:11
upsShavnir: then start using it ;)11:11
Shavnirups : I try and cd into the directory and I get permission denied11:12
camcorderdraco@temple:/boot/grub$ sudo fsck -f /dev/hdb311:12
camcorderfsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)11:12
camcordere2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)11:12
camcorderfsck.ext3: Filesystem has unsupported feature(s) (/dev/hdb3)11:12
topylifazer: well yeah, using nautilus sort of nullifies the advantages of xfce11:12
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Shavnirups : Or should I be trying to cd into /mnt/hda5 instead of /mnt/somedir?11:12
enyccamc: hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm....... one moment ;-)11:12
camcordere2fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck!11:13
upsShavnir: no, /mnt/somedir is right11:13
fazertopyli: bah =/11:13
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Shavnirups : I get permission denied :(11:13
MFKRWoot!11:13
MFKRIt worked!11:13
MFKROk, I have one last question.11:13
MFKRSince it did work, I decided to partition using the installer.11:13
liableShavnir: what does your fstab say about your ntfs partition11:13
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MFKRAm I supposed to see something once I input how many GBs I want the new partition to be, or do I only see the blue screen?11:14
Shavnirliable : Dosen't mention it.11:14
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MFKRPlease, answer quickly.11:14
Shavnirliable : Infact my fstab only has entires for hda6, and dosen't mention hda2, hda5 or hdb111:14
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liableShavnir: unmount it and then add user when you remount it11:15
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Shavniradd user?  as a flag or something?11:15
enyccamc: show us the output of:-11:15
upsShavnir: what does this show for somedir: ls -l /mnt11:16
enyccamc: sudo dumpe2fs -h [device]  | grep features:11:16
Shavnirups : A second too late, just umounted it.11:16
camcorderFilesystem features:      has_journal resize_inode filetype sparse_super large_file11:16
ShavnirBut last I checked /mnt contained two directories you folks had me create.11:16
upsShavnir: you can check the permissions for somedir anyway11:17
camcorderenyc: it indeed even has fewer features than other partition i have which is checked fine11:17
camcorderah11:17
enycHrrrm I don't recognize: "resize_inode" "large_file"11:17
camcorderit's resize_inode11:17
Shavnirups : okay, hold on a sec11:17
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camcorderwell large_file is also in other partitions I got11:17
camcorderbut not resieze_inode11:18
Shavnirpermissions would be the string of characters at the beggining of a ls -l?11:18
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enycyou can flip features on/off with tune2fs but you need to know what something means before just flipping it ;-)11:18
camcorderi made this partitions w/ mkfs.ext3 of redhat11:18
Shavnirdrwxr-xr-x11:18
camcorderwho would need resize_inode ;P11:18
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camcorderindeed , i totally closed checking of hard disks11:18
upsShavnir: that looks ok11:18
camcorderii don't think i'll ever need it - i fully use ext311:19
Shavnirups : Okay, I just remounted the drive.  Didn't find the user flag the dude mentioned earlier in a quick perusal of the man file.11:19
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Shavnirups : When mounted the permissions change to dr-x------11:19
jfk303I need to put another os on my pc, is there any way I can resize my ubuntu partition without damaging it?11:19
enyccamc: right....11:20
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enyccamc: resize_inode is soemthign dto do with reserving space to allow the reiszing of a filesystem later11:20
upsShavnir: weird, works ok here11:20
superteddo you have to have an account on the ubuntu bugzilla to comment on a bug?11:20
_zeRjfk303: backup the data, resize partition and put the data back. Partition Magic could be another Solution (danger?!)11:21
upssuperted: yes11:21
camcorderenyc: but maybe it's better to post a bug report about it.11:21
enyccamc: apparently you can either get newer e2fsprogs ....11:21
upsShavnir: try to change the permission now? sudo chmod +r /mnt/somedir11:21
camcorderenyc: fedora was fine w/ resize_inode and ubuntu should be as well11:21
liableShavnir: mount -t ntfs -o user /dev/hdxx /mnt/blah11:21
jfk303_zeR, ok11:21
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enyccamc: depends on the versions of e2fsprogs ;-)11:21
camcorderenyc: well what I mean, ubuntu should have the decent versions :P11:22
enyccamc: just because somehitng doesn't work with something else, doesn't mean its broken, just incompatible i that configuration11:22
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camcorderenyc: if that partition is my boot one, i would not be able to boot ubuntu on it11:22
jbmigelgreetings, anyone know where to find xf86vmode.h? its supposed to be some extension to X11 but i cant seem to find it11:22
Shavnirliable : Okay, I tried that, I'll see if it changes the ls -l in my /mnt11:23
ironwolfjbmigel: locate xf86vmode.h11:23
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Shavnir"chmod: changing permissions of 'somedir': Read-only filesystem"11:23
jbmigelironwolf, it is not on my computer, i assume the default install of hoary leaves it out. I meant i cant find a package for it in any repository11:23
liableShavnir: can you cd into it11:24
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Shavnirliable : Nope.  Permission denied.11:24
itay I chose my language when I install kubuntu11:24
itayand I want to konsole to be in english, what can I do?11:24
topylihrm. clanbomber keeps hanging. how could anybody release such a buggy version of such an essential unix utility? :)11:24
enyccamc: hrrm, 1.36 e2fsprosgs is not in debian-sarge yet either....11:24
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liableShavnir: did you unmount and then mount it again11:25
enyccamc: I read some things mentioning fedora extensionsto e2fsprogs and bugs in them...11:25
ironwolfjbmigel: no clue then.  What's it supposed to do?11:25
Shavnirliable : Yes11:25
liableShavnir: with that command11:25
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Shavnirliable : Just to dobule check I shoudl umount /mnt/somedir and not /dev/hda5 right?11:25
liableShavnir: yes11:25
camcorderenyc: well possible, but for sure that's an issue11:25
Shavnirliable : Good.  Yes I followed your instructions.11:25
prometheHow can I change firefox taskbar icon11:25
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ShavnirTried the chmod on somedir too.11:25
crbOn Hoary, video playback is choppy when I use esd as the gstreamer sink.  Killing esd and using alsa works OK.  Anyone seen this/got any ideas on a fix?11:26
jbmigelironwolf, I believe it gives me access to some functions that allow me to query the current screen capabilities. Ill try to get it from xorg and slide it in. thanks11:26
ShavnirAlso in a slightly related manner, does Hoary come with nForce 4 drivers? :|11:26
camcordercrb: well alsa is fix :P11:26
liableShavnir: hmmm what is in /etc/mtab?11:26
itayhow can I set the konsole language to english and not what I chose in the installation?11:26
camcordercrb: why do you want to use esd anyways?11:26
ironwolfjbmigel: daniels would be the expert to ask, but he's probably out having fun for the weekend.11:26
enyccamc: looks like you can turn off the resize_inode flag with the right tools etc...11:27
Shavnirliable : You want the line about hda5?11:27
jbmigelironwolf, thanks ill keep an eye open for him if i cant get it to work11:27
liableyes11:27
crbBecause, by default, ubuntu does everything with esd11:27
Shavnirliable : /dev/hda5 /mnt/somedir ntfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 011:27
camcorderenyc: hmm well i won't :P but i'll try to put that on wiki11:27
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camcorderenyc: or can I, i'm not sure if anyone is allowed toedit wiki11:28
crbI've changed to alsa, but I'd like to have heard an answer that will have worked out of the box11:28
liableShavnir: mount -t ntfs -o user,umask=000 /dev/hdxx /mnt/blah11:28
camcorderesd is crap, really11:28
Shavnirokay, gimme a sec11:28
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crbI'm surprised it's being used.  I hear it was supposed to be polypaudio, but that was buggier.11:29
goonieAnyone know why I can't play mp3's over my network? I'm browsing my shared windows directories just fine... just can't open the files11:29
Shavnirliable : Okay.  I'll do a ls -l in /mnt now11:29
liablegoonie: got the video working?11:29
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Shavnir:D11:29
ShavnirIt works!11:29
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goonieliable~ downloading the codecs now :D thx11:29
camcordercrb: gnome is still using esd unfortunately11:30
itayHow can I set the konsole language to english?11:30
Shavnirliable : That worked.  Now is there a way I can make it do it on its own?11:30
camcordercrb: i hope they will drop it in 2.12 in favor of alsa, but who knows11:30
liableShavnir: read 'man fstab' add pretty much those options, plus auto11:31
crbThe #gstreamer people tell me the esd sink is the suck11:31
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ozamosiWhat file do I edit if I want to make keyboard buttons perform mouse clicks?11:32
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camcordercrb: they are right :P well just use alsa and you'll be fine. use dmix plugin to have poly audio11:33
prometheIs there any howto about making firefox themes?11:33
camcorderprmethe: i'm sure the are, just google11:33
Shavnirliable : So just to review what I should put in fstab11:34
goonieAnyone know why I can't play mp3's over my network? I'm browsing my shared windows directories just fine... just can't open the files11:34
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mitzahey11:34
Shavnirliable : /dev/hda5   /mnt/somedir   ntfs  o user,umask=00011:34
liableShavnir: heres mine for vfat /dev/hda5 /mnt/win vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,umask=000,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,quiet 0 011:34
mitzawhere can i find a theme that makes the terminal borders invisible ;Gnome???11:35
kev0rwhen i put a dvd in my comp it doesn't auto-mount, is there a way to force it?11:35
liableShavnir: change the appropriate entries of course11:35
Shavnirliable : So is the o user thing right?11:35
Shavnirliable : Ah, do a copy / paste and change vfat to ntfs and the drive names and i should be good?11:35
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liableShavnir: no, you dont need that in fstab, only when mounting manually11:35
mitzawhere can i find a theme that makes the terminal borders invisible ;Gnome???11:36
liableShavnir: yes should work11:36
Shavnirliable : Oh, okay.  Rodger that.11:36
ShavnirDo I need the iocharset?11:36
camcordermitza: art.gnome.org11:36
camcordershavnir: if you're using only ascii no11:36
Shavnircamcorder : Don't think I had any files / folders named in Japanese on that drive.11:37
liableShavnir: dont know actually, are you american or english or ??11:37
camcordershavnir: well just try w/o it, if you have problems w/ filenames you can alwasy umount and  remount11:37
Shavnirliable : American.  I speak some Japanese, but I didn't have any Japanese stuff on the drive before formatting today.11:37
kev0rOnly when i'm root i can double click an icon of a CDrom player and mount11:37
kev0rthis isn't correct right?11:37
kev0rthis should be do-able as a normal user too11:38
kev0ralways been that way11:38
camcorderkev0r: well you need to change your fstab11:38
Shavnirliable : Okay, so I copied the line of yours into my fstab.  Any recomandations as to where I should copy the mount command in case I need to remember it later?11:38
kev0rin what?11:38
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camcorderkev0r: add user to options tab of fstab, for cdrom11:38
liableShavnir: whereever you can remember where it is :)11:38
kev0rcamcorder: i didn't change it... howcome it's just b0rked at once11:38
liableShavnir: just write it down11:39
camcorderkev0r: it's not b0rked for me , but dunno if there's such  a problem it might be due to that11:39
Shavnirliable : I'm horrible about organization.  TO THE DESKTOP IT GOES!11:39
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kev0rand where exactly do i add myself to option tab of fstab?11:39
camcorderShavnir: you have that line wrong though11:39
camcordershavnir: ' o user,umask=000'11:39
ompaulwith a set volume control on the screen11:40
camcordershavnir: there should not be 'o' there11:40
ShavnirOh okay11:40
camcorderkev0r: vi /etc/fstab11:40
ShavnirIn my fstab do I need a user flag or not?11:40
camcorderkev0r: and check the line that has /media/cdrom11:40
topyliShavnir: i'm so glad tomboy works these days. helps with my vast collection of random notes :)11:40
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liablecamcorder: for the commandline entry?11:40
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kev0ri'm checking it11:40
camcorderliable: for command line entry it should be -o11:40
kev0r/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       011:41
kev0rshould i change noauto to auto? :P11:41
Shavnirtopyli : I always found it ironic that my organization got worse after I got a palm pilot.  Started downloading all the stuff for it and ended up with files every which way.11:41
camcorderkev0r: well you have it correct that problem might be permissions on /media/cdrom011:41
Shavnirliable : Also do I want auto or noauto on my fstab entry?11:41
kev0risn't the problem that "noauto"11:41
camcorderkev0r: can you plz type ls -d /mnt/cdrom011:41
camcorderkev0r: noauto is fine11:41
liableShavnir: auto to mount at boot11:42
ShavnirOkay.11:42
ShavnirOh crapsticks11:42
kev0rno such file/dir11:42
ShavnirI don't have permission to modify my fstab11:42
topyliShavnir: yeah, handhelds are like windows boxen. i'm always trying out freeware stuff, each more useless than the other11:42
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ShavnirWhat's the chmod to give me rw on a file?11:43
kev0rcamcorder: no such file/dir11:43
liableShavnir: actually you dont need that auto bit anyway11:43
camcorderkev0r: ah sory ls -d /media/cdrom011:43
ompaulShavnir, you do it you type sudo vi /etc/fstab11:43
kev0rtried that11:43
kev0rit gives me blue letters11:43
liableShavnir: sudo gedit /etc/fstab11:43
kev0r/media/cdrom011:43
camcorderkev0r: but what' are the permissions11:44
Shavnirompaul : Dosen't help me much when I'm already pico'ing (although it put me in nano >_< ) the file. :(11:44
kev0rdoesn't say11:44
camcorderls -dl /media/cdrom011:44
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kev0rdrwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2005-03-28 10:20 cdrom011:44
kev0rdr-xr-xr-x   3 root root 4096 2005-03-28 09:44 cdrom111:44
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kev0rlrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    6 2005-03-28 10:20 cdrom -> cdrom011:44
Shavnirompaul : I learned pico 'cause it was the only one that worked with the backspace when being telnetted / ssh'ed to from a windows box.11:45
camcorderkev0r: it seems alright, do you experience that for all cds?11:45
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MFKRAlright, I'm finally on ubuntu :D11:45
ompaulShavnir, well whatever you learnt you must use sudo to do the edit11:45
kev0ryes, but it was good before11:45
liableMFKR: thought you were going to bed :)11:45
Rhymesis there a changelog for ubuntu breezy?11:45
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MFKRDecided against it :P11:46
kev0rcamcorder: what chmod you got on mount and umount in /bin/??11:46
ShavnirOkay11:46
camcorderkev0r: can you try manually on terminal 'mount /dev/cdrom'11:46
camcorderor umount11:46
MFKRAlright, so now that I do have ubuntu installed -- how do I know if it detected my video card correctly?11:46
kev0rkev0r@ubuntu:/bin$ mount /dev/cdrom11:46
kev0rmount: must be superuser to use mount11:46
Shavnirompaul : That takes foresight, which I greatly lack, lol.11:46
kev0ri think that we located the problem :)11:46
hardychowsudo mount11:46
BlackLabelsudo11:46
kev0romg, i know11:46
mitzawhere can i find a theme that makes the terminal borders invisible ;Gnome???11:46
kev0rbut that's not the issue :)11:46
goonieis anyone having problems with streaming media over their local network? MP3's won't play in XMMX unless I copy them to my local machine first11:47
ompaulShavnir, well here have a bottle of afterthought and do it again :)11:47
Shavnirompaul : I used a shot of copy and paste between terminal windows myself. :)11:47
topyliMFKR: if you have video, you're on the winning side already :)11:47
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kev0rcamcorder: the permissions on mount seem right to me11:47
kev0rkev0r@ubuntu:/bin$ ls -al |grep mount11:47
kev0r-rwxrwxr-x   1 root root  72536 2005-03-17 20:09 mount11:47
MFKRHaha, that's true. but anyway, I found it and it's there.11:47
hardychowToterm-xine is better than xmms11:48
MFKRNow, why can't I change back to 1280x1024? I hate 1024x768.11:48
liablegoonie: what error do you get11:48
camcorderkev0r: well it's fstab issue but dunno11:48
goonieliable~ no error really.. just doesn't do anything11:48
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kev0rhmm.. i've been doing some chmodding in the bindir11:48
camcorderkev0r: it should let you mount as user since you got user on the /dev/cdrom line11:48
camcorderkev0r: well can you try mount /dev/hdc11:48
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topyliMFKR: which video card do you have? X may have decided the free drivers won't yield a higher resolution11:48
goonieliable~ doesn't hang or anything, just doesn't play11:48
MFKRATI Radeon 9200 SE.11:49
kev0rmust b suprusr11:49
kev0rit spits at me,11:49
mitzawhere can i find a theme that makes the terminal borders invisible ;Gnome???11:49
liablegoonie: does the equaliser move or nothing at all11:49
jfk303hile, does anyone know a good perl ide for linux (and if I can apt-get it?)11:49
topyliMFKR: yeah, you won't get full performance in the free world but need the ATI driver11:49
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ShavnirRandom question, if I'm adding an fstab entry for a fat32 drive, do I just put in "fat32" or is there another name for it?11:50
goonieliable~ no nothing happens but the correct filename is scrolling at the thop11:50
MFKRBut doesn't ATI kind of let the Linux world down a bit? :P11:50
camcorderjfk303: vim11:50
camcordershavnir: vfat11:50
Shavnircamcorder : Any special flags I should set?11:51
ompaulmitza, you can modify any theme you want, however what you are expressing there is a wish to never move a terminal never resize one so I would suggest you use actl+alt+f2 or f3 or one of thost11:51
ShavnirI've got rw,user,auto,nosuid,nodev11:51
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camcordershavnir: maybe, just check `man mount`11:51
camcordershavnir: and search vfat with : /vfat11:51
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camcorderor search "Mount options for vfat"11:51
topyliMFKR: yeah, and nvidia too. matrox has good supports, but gamers don't like their cards (great 2D for work machines though)11:51
ompaulmitza, that should be ctrl+alt+f2 or f311:51
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ompaulmitza, to get back here make the f key f711:52
ShavnirOkay, I think its good.11:52
Blue-Omegahow can i upgrade my Ubuntu 4.10 in to 5.04 without reinstall it?11:52
mitzahaha :D11:52
mitzanot that one11:52
mitzais a gnome theme11:52
mitzaor something like that11:52
topyliBlue-Omega: change sources.list and upgrade away11:52
ShavnirSo I've got my harddrives back.  Good.11:52
ShavnirIts like 5am so I'm gonna hit the hay11:53
mitzathat makes terminal borders invisible;11:53
MFKRHmm, sounds like ATI offers drivers for ATI Radeon 8500 and higher series, but it says something about XFree86 and X.org, what the heck is that?11:53
ompaulmitza, write one cos I don't know one that has that as a 'feature'11:53
mitzaand you write on the background11:53
ShavnirBut tomorrow I'm gonna have to dig up me some nForce4 drivers.11:53
Blue-Omegai don't need to uninstall anything?11:53
MFKR(it shows that I never used linux before, eh? :P)11:53
Blue-Omegaor change settings?11:53
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liablegoonie: how are you accessing the mp3's11:53
ompaulmitza, so you want transparent11:53
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ShavnirMy lspci has 15 unknown devices, 13 of which are nVidia :p11:54
mitzayes11:54
sparklinghi all11:54
mitzathats it ompaul11:54
camcorderShavnir: what kind of card is that ;P11:54
sparklingdoes exist an howto to upgrade the fglrx ati driver with the newest drivers of april?11:54
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Shavnircamcorder:  That's my mobo chipset and card I think.11:54
goonieliable~ just browsing to my network comps using nautilus, right clicking and selecting play with xmms11:54
kev0rwhat file are the users in?11:54
Unlimited-Ubuntuhi all11:54
kev0rand the groups11:54
camcorderkev0r: /etc/passwd /etc/groups11:54
kev0rkthanks :D11:55
BurgundaviaMFKR, x-free/xorg are X servers, which draw stuff on your screen11:55
liablegoonie: whats the permissions for the files11:55
camcorder/etc/group even11:55
mitzaompaul, do u know ?11:55
BurgundaviaMFKR, all you really need to know is that hoary uses xorg11:55
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topyliBlue-Omega: if you have backports installed or you have built your own packages, some may conflict11:55
MFKROh, alright. So basically, the drivers'll work.11:55
kev0rcamcorder: it's strange, i should be able to execute mount, since it has the same chmodes as other commands I use in the bindir11:55
ompaulmitza, it does exist in the terminal hit edit and current profile - as for borders I dont know but you could go full screen - to exit hit exit11:55
camcorderkev0r: well you conf 'seems' fine - but dunno11:55
mz2sparkling, just wait for a bit and they'll eventually be included in the ubuntu restricted module packages11:55
ShavnirI wonder if my mobo is too new to have drivers on the standard install :\11:56
BurgundaviaMFKR, read this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:56
ompauls/hit/type/11:56
sparklingok tnx11:56
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BurgundaviaMFKR, and this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto11:56
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goonieliable~ the files are -r-xr--r--11:56
BurgundaviaMFKR, should get you up to spead11:56
camcorderShavnir: well don't think so, go get nvidia driver, they 'support' linux11:56
Shavnircamcorder : I'll do it in the morning, prementioned 5am clause :)11:57
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Shavnircamcorder : although it does leave the two non-nVidia drivers, which I am led to believe are my ethernet ports :\11:57
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AmaranthIs http://sourceforge.net completely dead for anyone else here?11:58
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camcorderShavnir: wouldy ou please paste the lspci output as private message to me11:58
Shavnircam : Sorry, just shut 'er down for the night :\11:58
MFKRThanks, Burgundavia.11:58
BurgundaviaAmaranth, seems dead for me11:58
BurgundaviaMFKR, if you have any further questions, pm me11:58
ssamamaranth, works for me11:58
Burgundaviassam, Amaranth possibly dns updating11:59
ompaulAmaranth, not visible here11:59
FreezerXIs there another html editor than nvu. nvu is very buggy. Maybe I should try to get Dreamweaver 4.x working on ubuntu.11:59
Shavnirbenefits of mutiple computers...11:59
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UnipalHi all, what is a good filemanager to run under X, and is available via ubuntu deb package?. Right now I use MC.12:00
BurgundaviaFreezerX, you want wysiwyg?12:00
FreezerXsure12:00
BurgundaviaUnipal, nautilus?12:00
camcorderFreezerX: well you can try bluefish, it's a nice ide, but not WYSIWYG12:00
ShachafUnipal: Nautilus/Konqueror.12:00
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BurgundaviaFreezerX, hmm, bluefish is nice12:00
BurgundaviaFreezerX, a little buggy in a few places though12:00
ompaulhttp://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=http://sourceforge.net&probe=1 <-- could not find it12:01
UnipalI 'am looking for a filemanager with two panels. MC, totalcommander, etc12:01
ShachafFreezerX: I think the Mozilla package includes a WYSIWYG HTML editor.12:01
BurgundaviaUnipal, nautilus browse mode or konq12:01
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BurgundaviaShachaf, that is nvu12:01
FreezerXOk, thanks, I will it12:01
liablegoonie: can you navigate to the samba directory with the xmms menu to play them12:01
ShachafUnipal: Knqueror can do that, I think.12:01
FreezerXtry it12:01
ShachafBurgundavia: It's waht NVu is based on, anyway.12:02
lewwyhey guys how would i go about getting my logitech webcam working underneath ubuntu?12:02
UnipalDoes nautilus heve two panels?12:02
BurgundaviaShachaf, oh, that old thing, forgot about it12:02
BurgundaviaUnipal, change to browser mode12:02
Burgundavialewwy, usb?12:02
lewwyyes Burgundavia12:02
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Burgundavialewwy, what does dmesg say?12:02
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UnipalOkay, I'll try Nautilus in browsermode12:03
Unipalthanks12:03
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lewwyBurgundavia, post in flood?12:03
Burgundavialewwy, pm me12:03
lewwyk12:03
lewwyactually you PM me i dont know how12:03
fazerIf I close the lid of my laptop, it goes to sleep? if it does, will it disconnect me from this chat?12:03
kev0rcamcorder: it worx if i $ sudo chmod 7777 /bin/umount12:03
Shachafkev0r: You don't want to do that.12:04
camcorderkev0r: wierd12:04
Shachafkev0r: What's the problem, exactly?12:04
kev0ri know12:04
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fazerhrmm12:05
kev0rbut that makes me conclude the problem is in user permissions12:05
Sixfoot5-NLanyone knows how i can capture .rm streams in Ubuntu?12:05
kev0rShachaf: i wasn't able to mount a cdrom as a normal user12:05
maltewhat might be wrong if i can't enable DMA on my dvd-reader?12:05
kev0r-rwsr-xr-x   1 root root  72536 2005-03-17 20:09 mount12:05
Shachafkev0r: What does your fstab say?12:05
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bosewichtmplayer will record streams12:06
ShachafSixfoot5-NL: ``apt-get install realplayer''.12:06
kev0r/dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       012:06
kev0r/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       012:06
Sixfoot5-NLcapture ?12:06
fazerHow can I watch xvid/divx etc.. movies?12:06
ShachafSixfoot5-NL: Oh.12:06
ShachafSixfoot5-NL: Sorry.12:06
Sixfoot5-NLi can play it but cant save it to disk.12:06
bosewichtaudacity will as well12:06
Sixfoot5-NLmplayer, hmmm12:06
Sixfoot5-NLhad some problems installing that one12:06
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bosewichtlol..me too12:07
Shachafkev0r: What error does ``mount'' give?12:07
kev0ronly superuser can use mount12:07
Sixfoot5-NLcant install mplayer with synaptic12:07
fazerHow do you get mplayer?12:08
bosewichtnope, u can build it tho12:08
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fazerbosewicht: how?12:08
anahiraola12:08
Shachafkev0r: What mount command did you use?12:08
Sixfoot5-NLif i need to do make and make config and that kind a stuff ill better switch back to windoze :-)12:08
anahirahello12:08
emilieShachaf> I installed MC to retrieve my lost essay. How do I do it? Do you know?12:08
camcorderfazer: add multiverse repo and yum install it12:09
bosewichtdownload the source packages...including the deps and build them12:09
Shachafemilie: I don't remember.12:09
kev0ri first see ubuntu doesn't auto-mount12:09
Shachafemilie: Let me see...12:09
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kev0r$ mount /media/cdrom112:09
kev0rmount: must be superuser to use mount12:09
Sixfoot5-NLbuild mplayer....hmmm12:09
emilieThanx12:09
Sixfoot5-NLeasy?12:09
bosewichthmm, if u follow the instructions12:09
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bosewichtjust download mplayer and the deps that are giving the problems12:10
Sixfoot5-NLill try it12:10
Sixfoot5-NLlaterrrr12:10
Shachafemilie: Are you using ext3?12:10
bosewichtyou may be able to use apt to get the rest of the pkgs12:10
liablekev0r: when you browse to your cd drive in a file browser, can you see in it12:10
kev0rnegative, only root message12:11
kev0rwell it's just not mounted :)12:11
emilieshachaf> i think so... Or is it reiser...?12:11
Shachafemilie: If you're using ext3, you're out of luck.12:11
kev0rUnable to mount the selected volume.12:11
kev0rmount: must be superuser to use mount12:11
kev0rsame problem12:11
Shachafemilie: It would work with ext2, though.12:11
Shachafemilie: http://lists.samba.org/archive/linux/2003-January/006114.html12:11
kev0rbut when i chmod 7777 mount/umount the problem is gone, why is that a bad idea Shachaf?12:12
Shachafemilie: s/would/might/12:12
Shachafkev0r: That's because you're enabling setuid.12:12
Shachafkev0r: Which means that mount is always run as toot.12:12
camcorderkev0r: well i can edit it w/ vi, and make it a bash script, and run it as root ;)12:12
kev0rthat would require me to fill in a pass every time12:13
Shachafkev0r: Because then anybody could delete/replace the file.12:13
kev0rShachaf: that doesn't sound good :)12:13
camcorderkev0r: it's a single user box, though it's not that big problem12:13
kev0rit's not12:13
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camcorderkev0r: unless you don't let shell axx12:14
goonieliable~ ok... if I just mount my windows shares to /mnt/somename i can play the mp3's but not if I browse with the nautilus network browser... should have figured that one out myself :$12:14
kev0ri've shell x-s on my box for a few folks12:14
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bosewichtuntil someone gets to ur box, wether locally or remotely12:14
Shachafkev0r: What were your fstab entries again?12:14
Shachafkev0r: And the command you used?12:14
kev0r//dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       012:14
kev0r/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       012:14
emilieShachaf> Is there any way to see wether I have ext3 or reiser?12:14
kev0rmount /media/cdrom112:14
anahiramamonaaaa12:15
Shachafemilie: Look in /etc/fstab.12:15
camcorderemiliie: use fdisk12:15
Shachafemilie: Or type ``mount''.12:15
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kev0rhmm when i just do "mount" i don't get an error though12:15
camcorderlev0r: surer you wont, coz mount is working12:16
fazerDoes anyone know if I close the lid fo my laptop, what will happen to Ubuntu?12:16
Shachafkev0r: I have the same first line as you on my system.12:16
fazerWill the processes still be running?12:16
camcorderkev0r: what I really wonder if mount is really reading fstab12:16
Shachafkev0r: Let me see if I can mount a CD...12:16
kev0rShachaf: yes, plz do try /mount/cdrom112:16
kev0rmount /media/cdrom112:17
kev0rlol12:17
camcorderkev0r: can you use that command "strace mount &> log && grep fstab log && rm log"12:17
Shachafkev0r: cdrom0, actually.12:17
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Shachafkev0r: Is cdrom0 working for you?12:17
sparklingi'm trying to see a dvd-rom, i've enabled the dma but the image is not perfect... i've also downloaded the libdvdcss2 from marillat, do i need other to make the video perfect? i use xine12:17
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kev0rboth aren't12:17
kev0r1/012:17
emilieShachaf> ``mount'' tells me nothing about ext312:17
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emilieShachaf> says RW in paranthesis12:18
camcorderkev0r: strace mount /media/cdrom0 &> log && grep fstab log && rm log12:18
camcorderemilie: coz it's not mounted12:18
liablekev0r: sudo umount /dev/cdrom0 then as user mount/dev/cdrom012:18
Shachafemilie: You should get a line similiar to: ``/dev/hda3 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)''.12:18
camcorderemilie: just type fdisk /dev/hda (or hatver) and type p12:18
kev0r$ strace mount /media/cdrom0 &> log && grep fstab log && rm log12:18
kev0rbash: log: Permission denied12:18
camcorderkev0r: do that on your home dir12:19
Shachafemilie: No, fdisk -l /dev/hda, if you're using fdisk.12:19
camcorderkev0r: you're in /sbin :)12:19
kev0r$ sudo umount /dev/cdrom012:19
kev0rumount: /dev/cdrom0: not found12:19
kev0r$ mount /dev/cdrom112:19
kev0rmount: must be superuser to use mount12:19
itayhi!12:19
kev0r$ strace mount /media/cdrom0 &> log && grep fstab log && rm log12:19
kev0ropen("/etc/fstab", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 312:19
kev0rread(3, "# /etc/fstab: static file system"..., 4096) = 53412:19
itayhow do I change the konsole language to english?12:19
itayI don't want it to be the language I chose in the installation12:20
Shachafkev0r: Does ``mount /media/cdrom0'' work?12:20
itaywhat can I do?12:20
kev0ritay: console language is always english12:20
camcorderitaly: just put LANG=C12:20
kev0r$ mount /media/cdrom012:20
kev0rmount: must be superuser to use mount12:20
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itayI mean apt-get and other tools12:20
bosewichtapt-get moo12:20
bosewicht:)12:20
itayI want them to be in english12:20
camcorderitay: and LANGUAGE=C then expot LANG LANGUAGE into you .bashrc12:20
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camcorderC = english12:20
Shachafbosewicht: My APT has had Super-Cow powers for a while.12:21
liablekev0r: sudo umount /dev/cdrom1 then as user mount/dev/cdrom112:21
Sixfoot5-NLbuilding mplayer , i have gcc 2.96 , what a mess....12:21
kev0rliable: tried that12:21
kev0rthe drive is unmounted at the moment12:21
kev0rcannot mount12:21
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liablewith the 112:21
Shachafcamcorder: You could've simply used ``strace mount /media/cdrom0 2>&1 | grep fstab''.12:21
emilieShachaf> fdisk -l /dev/hda says cannot open /dev/hda12:21
bosewichthda1  or 212:22
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Sixfoot5-NLi just wonder, why is this linux so full of none working programms instead of a few programms which will work fine?12:22
datsunamibtw.. wats sudo for?12:22
Shachafemilie: What's the first line of the output of ``mount''?12:22
camcorderschachaf: yeah that's better anyways12:22
bosewichtuu have to use the partition number12:22
liablekev0r: ls /dev/cdrom112:22
itaythanks!12:22
emilieSchachaf> /dev/hda1 on / type unknown (rw,errors=remount-ro)12:22
kev0rkev0r@ubuntu:~$ ls /dev/cdrom112:22
kev0r/dev/cdrom112:22
Shachafemilie: Type unknown?12:23
Shachafemilie: That's strange?12:23
camcorderemilie: just check it w/ fstab12:23
camcorderand see which id it has12:23
liablekev0r: sudo ls /dev/cdrom112:23
camcorderfdisk anwaysy :P12:23
Shachafemilie: I'd expect it to know the type of a mounted filesystem, particularly /.12:23
gooniearrrghhh... can't get mplayer to work... VLC doesn't work either.. w32codecs are installed but mplayer just hangs... have to kill the pid to close it12:23
kev0rsame output12:23
kev0rliable:12:23
bosewichtrun mplayer from the terminal and read the output12:24
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liablekev0r: there is a disk in there?12:24
emiliecamcorder> I don't understand12:24
kev0rlol efc12:24
camcordergoonie: that's because it's trying to use alsa as sound device12:24
kev0rif i do sudo mount /media/cdrom112:24
kev0rit's mounted12:24
Shachafkev0r: And you can't umount it?12:25
camcorderemilie: wht's the id line on fdisk -l /dev/hdaX12:25
Shachafkev0r: Is that the problem?12:25
kev0ri can umount it12:25
kev0rbut only as root12:25
kev0rthat's the problem12:25
Shachafkev0r: If it is, then simply change user to users in /etc/fstab.12:25
kev0rit's users12:25
Shachafkev0r: Sorry, I didn't understand you.12:25
liablekev0r: what does 'ls /dev/cdrom1' give then12:25
Shachafkev0r: It is?12:25
camcorderit should be user12:25
kev0rit is now ^^12:25
emiliecamcorder> no line12:25
camcorderand it's user :P12:25
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Shachafcamcorder: It should be user.12:26
emiliecamcorder> no ID12:26
Shachafcamcorder: s/user/users/12:26
kev0rkev0r@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /media/cdrom112:26
kev0rkev0r@ubuntu:~$ mount /media/cdrom112:26
kev0rmount: must be superuser to use mount12:26
kev0rdidn't work :(12:26
camcorderShachaf: for what?  user (allow a user  to  mount), from man fstab12:26
Shachafcamcorder: ``man mount''.12:27
bosewichttry cat /etc/group | grep cdrom12:27
Shachafcamcorder: And look for ``users''.12:27
camcorder       Thus, given a line12:27
camcorder              /dev/cdrom  /cd  iso9660  ro,user,noauto,unhide12:27
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liablekev0r: ls -l /bin/mount12:27
kev0ri c12:27
pekanyone know why openoffice spreadsheet turn the months I type with captial letter to lower-case? I type April and it autocorrects to april12:27
emiliecamcorder> says unable to open /dev/hda12:28
kev0r$ ls -l /bin/mount12:28
kev0r-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 72536 2005-03-17 20:09 /bin/mount12:28
camcorderemilie: do tah as root12:28
gooniecamcorder~ I changed the audio output to esd but now I get: "MPlayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: decode_audio"12:28
bosewichthda1!!!!  use the partition number12:28
Shachafcamcorder: ``Only the user that mounted a  filesystem  can unmount it again.  If any user should be able to unmount, then use users instead of user in the fstab line.''.12:28
camcordergoonie: you better use alsa for everything12:28
Shachafcamcorder: From ``man mount''.12:28
liablekev0r: thats fucked up then12:28
kev0rShachaf: what does a ls -l /bin/mount give you?12:28
camcorderShachaf: yeah i read but that's not a good behaviour, i don't want anyone to umount my own mounted cdrom12:29
Shachafkev0r: ``-rwsr-xr-x  1 root root 72536 2005-03-17 21:09 /bin/mount''.12:29
emiliecamcorder> ID: 8312:29
kev0rwtf!?12:29
kev0rwhat's that s on the 4th place?12:29
gooniehow do I change everything to alsa.. xmms didn't work with alsa after the hoary upgrade.. can I change some system wide setting to alsa?12:29
kev0rthere's an x with me12:29
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camcorderemilie: that's ext3 i think12:29
Shachafcamcorder: kev0r's problem is that he/she can't umount the cdrom that root mounted.12:29
kev0rthere is the problem!!!12:29
bosewichtcamcorder try this and see if ur name comes up   cat /etc/group | grep cdrom   you should me a member of that group12:29
kev0ri found it Shachaf , what chmod nr is ur mount?12:30
kev0rto make -rwsr-xr-x12:30
liablegoonie: its in the xmms menu to chande the driver12:30
emiliecamcorder> Then it is impossible to retrive lost file...?12:30
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Shachafkev0r: How would I find out?12:30
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Shachafkev0r: The ``s'' means setuid, I think.12:30
kev0rah i found it12:30
kev0rit's chmodded 475512:30
kev0rthere is the whole problem :)12:30
Shachafkev0r: That makes sense.12:31
Shachafkev0r: Is yours?12:31
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kev0ridd :)12:31
goonieliable~ yes xmms works with esd but mplayer hangs with alsa and crashes completely with esd... what can I do?12:31
kev0rthat's why chmod 7777 worked :P12:31
camcorderemilie: well probably unless you use some tricks to find inodes etc. etc.12:31
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kev0rbut Shachaf we all overlooked the little "s"12:31
kev0rcrazy thing12:31
ompaulSourceforge.net is back12:31
camcorderemilie: which is not easy, try som third party applications if you need that12:31
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Shachafkev0r: ``mount'' should be setuid -- otherwise it can't mount as a user.12:31
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kev0ryes so we all know now ^^12:31
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Shachafkev0r: No thank you.12:32
kev0rcola? :P12:32
emiliecamcorder> such as?12:32
kev0ris there an LS command to just give the CHMOD nr in stead of the -rwxr-xr-x12:32
kev0r?12:32
emiliecamcorder> I think it's a bit out of my league...12:32
Shachafemilie: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/01/msg00885.html12:32
queuetueI have a brand new MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI nForce 4 motherboard.  I've tried 6 different IDE disks with it, and 3 different cables, and every one of them reports errors (but not in other machines.)  I've tested this with both multiple Linux installs and a Windows XP install.    Do I need to send this motherboard back, or could I just be a dolt and need to change some bios setting?12:33
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ompaulqueuetue, does the bios give out?12:35
queuetueompaul, "give out"?12:35
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emilieShachaf> thanx for supporting... I give up... It's to complicated for me12:35
ompaulqueuetue, complain as it boots during post?12:35
sparklinghow can i make "rpm --replacefiles -ivh --force packagename" with dpkg?12:35
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Shachafemilie: Did you write the file in plaintext?12:35
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emiliecamcorder> thanx for your support...12:35
queuetueompaul, Not that I've noticed.  I first see errors (under ubuntu) after "Starting Ubuntu"12:36
camcordernp12:36
ompaulwhat are the errors?12:36
emilieShchaf> Nope doc12:36
ompaulqueuetue, message me if they are plentyful or put them in pastebin.com12:36
emilieShachaf> Nope doc12:36
RazAlright, thanks Burgundavia for all y our help. It's working fine now. :)12:36
Shachafemilie: That makes things even more complicated.12:36
gooniecamcorder~ how can I use mplayer when it hangs with alsa and crashes completely when i changed to esd?12:36
BurgundaviaRaz, np12:37
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Shachafemilie: You might have a chance o finding it with grep, though.12:37
camcordergoonie: killall esd and run mplayer12:37
queuetueompaul, do you mind a URL?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=135196#post13519612:37
MFKRhaha, forgot to switch nicks XD12:37
ompaulqueuetue, not at all12:37
emilieShachaf> i'm pretty newbie... Can you guide me?12:37
MFKRNow, I got one last, final, newbish question: does Ubuntu come with Wine installed?12:37
Shachafemilie: What's the first line of the output of ``mount'', again?12:37
ShachafMFKR: No.12:38
EchyloMFKR, no12:38
ShachafMFKR: ``sudo apt-get install wine''.12:38
emilieShachaf>/dev/hda1 on / type unknown (rw,errors=remount-ro)12:38
Shachafemilie: Try (this might take a while):12:38
ompaulqueuetue, have you tried a live cd?12:39
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gooniecamcorder~ ok mplayer running again but I can't play files, it just hangs... what can I do?12:39
itaywhy I can't install java through apt-get? E: Couldn't find package java12:39
Shachafemilie: Is there a particular pice of text in the document that you remember?12:39
queuetueompaul, I have, it boots fine, but I see DriveSeekReady errors on hda in dmesg.12:39
camcordergoonie: it still hangs after you killall esd and run it?12:39
emilieShachaf> Yes12:39
Shachafitay: http://ubuntuguide.org/12:40
Shachafemilie: Which is?12:40
Shachafemilie: How long is it, I mean?12:40
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Shachafemilie: And was it all left in the same format?12:40
emilieShachaf> The part I remember?12:40
Shachafemilie: Yes.12:41
gooniecamcorder~ crashed and exited with error 11 something about audio_decode ...12:41
Shachafemilie: It has to be exact.12:41
ompaulqueuetue, you get the same kind of impact on that other software from the town of redmond?12:41
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emilieShachaf> i have an old useless version of the document so pretty long...12:41
camcordergoonie: hmm are you sure you have necessary codecs to play that thing12:42
Shachafemilie: A few words should be enough.12:42
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emilieShachaf: ok12:42
Shachafemilie: As long as they're all formatted the same.12:42
Shachafemilie: Let me see...12:42
gooniecamcorder~ i installed w32codecs, thougt that should do it12:42
camcordergoonie: check if it crashes on all things it might not be a esd vs alsa issue (hanging is sure it is but i tell this for crashing)12:42
emilieShachaf> they are12:42
camcordergoonie: just try something else12:42
gooniek.. bbl12:42
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queuetueompaul, with much less error reporting, but the format drive portion of the install ran for about 8 hourd and never got to 1%... (I don't know how normal this is - I haven't used win for years, and will not use it again after this test, but I suspect this is too slow even for Windows. :) )12:44
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ompaulqueuetue, regretfully I know what you say to be true12:44
nydustwhere in apache2 do i enable php? I have done an apt-get install apache2 and all the php4 libs, but it dosent work12:44
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Shachafemilie: Sorry.12:45
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Shachafemilie: I waqs wrong.12:45
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markumansomeone have install bos ?12:45
Shachafemilie: I don't know how to do it after all.12:45
markumanit doesn't run12:45
ompaulqueuetue, I would be inclined to look in the bios for something to do with disks - dma and stuff, google for the board name and disk drive12:45
emilieShachaf> no sweat12:45
markuman:-/12:45
emilieShachaf> Thanx for trying12:45
Shachafmarkuman: What's ``bos''?12:45
gooniecamcorder~ err... it might have been the file I was testing hehe... another file works just fine... Thank you very much12:45
Shachafemilie: Sorry.12:46
camcordernp12:46
camcorderit's codec issue not your files fault ;P12:46
markumanshachaf, a game12:46
goonieliable~ thanks for all your help today.. everything working now... until next crash guys hehe12:46
Shachafmarkuman: Oh.12:46
Shachafmarkuman: I don't know it, but waht's the error?12:47
ompaulqueuetue, I have looked on google and get no worthwhile response12:47
markumanmarkuman@ubuntu:~$ stratagus-bos12:48
markumanBattle of Survival default config file loading ...12:48
markumanCan't open file: No such file or directory12:48
markumanCan't open file: No such file or directory12:48
markuman... ready!12:48
queuetueompaul, Same here.  Would you blame hardware yet?  (And would you assume it is not a design problem, but a defect of some kind?)12:48
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ompaulqueuetue, it seems to be an issue where the bios can not talk to a drive I know the other day I had extreme issues with a 64bit box talking to a 32bit hard drive it had to do with making the drive master /slave in the presence an sata disk12:49
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ompaulqueuetue, I am thinking hardware defect12:49
talashHi all!12:49
talashHow do I set up a hostname in smb.conf?12:49
ompaulqueuetue, what is annoying me is one thing12:49
Shachafmarkuman: Downloading bos myself...12:49
ompaulqueuetue, the cdrom can be read12:49
ompaulqueuetue, I take it the cdrom is atapi12:50
markumanshachaf, i think, i have the mistake12:50
ompaulqueuetue, I take it the cdrom is atapi/ide12:50
Shachafmarkuman: What is it?12:50
markumanshachaf, install bos and stratagus12:50
markumanand not only bos12:50
queuetueompaul, Yes.  hand the secondary channel (hdb, hdd) are boith completely readable and writable.12:50
Shachafmarkuman: Stratagus is a dependency of bos.12:50
markumanbut don't know....will try it12:50
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Shachafmarkuman: SO it's being installed automatically.12:51
fazerGood morning, bah, I can't lseep.12:51
ompaulqueuetue, then I point at the hardware of the first interface12:51
EchyloShachaf, what is bos? just an expansion of stratagu?12:51
markumanhm...i have make apt-get install stratagus, and he done it....so apt-get have not install it with bos automaticaly12:51
ompaulqueuetue, ide0 seems to be bad / solder / connection /something else12:51
ShachafEchylo: Ask markuman.12:51
queuetueompaul, Not just the interface - this same behavior happens if I plug a HD into hdc...12:51
Echylomarkuman, what is bos? :p12:51
fazerDoes anyone know why there is no sound when I play a avi in VLC?12:52
ShachafEchylo: As far as I know, stratagus is just a game engine.12:52
queuetueompaul, hdb and hdd seem fine, and either channel workds as ATAPI...12:52
markumanyes, for stratagus - Battle of Survival12:52
EchyloShachaf, stratagus was a game on it's own I think12:52
Shachafmarkuman: How did you install bos?12:52
Shachafmarkuman: With apt?12:52
ompaulqueuetue, yeah I would be back with that board to the shop - now :)12:52
markumanyes with apt12:52
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markumanapt-ceache search bos12:52
Shachafmarkuman: I'm getting a different error from you.12:52
markumanapt-ceache search stratagus12:53
ompaulqueuetue, but I would look for another board - or in shop test12:53
ompaulof the same model12:53
markumani think that is all what you need12:53
queuetueompaul, unfortunatelry, newegg des not cross-ship, so it'll be a week or so.12:53
Shachafmarkuman: ``X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)''.12:53
fazerDoes anyone know why there is no sound when I play a avi in VLC?12:53
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markumanwhat Shachaf?12:53
ompaulqueuetue, the disadvantage of the internet :)12:53
Shachafmarkuman: I'm getting this error after BoS displays its splash screen.12:53
Shachafmarkuman: It's different from yours.12:54
markumanShachaf, strange...12:54
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Shachafmarkuman: Wait, I'm also getting the ``can't open config file'' error.12:54
ompaulqueuetue, have you got a digital camera?12:55
trygvebwhi, i'm downloading the Kubuntu livecd via bittorrent but it goes very slow. how can i speed it up?12:55
ompaulqueuetue, and a different board?12:55
BlackLabelhey ompaul12:55
ompaulqueuetue, and a different machine (oops)12:55
fazermplayer vs. VLC , which is better?12:55
Echylovlc12:55
EchyloI would choose that one12:55
fazerEchylo: i know, the video is nice but I don't hear any sound.12:56
Echyloonly because it did everything in windows12:56
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fazerEchylo: I get this error: [00000273]  oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp)12:56
Echyloyou have tried another sound serveR?12:56
Echylocause vlc isn't installed here right now12:56
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fazerEchylo: sound server?12:56
Echyloyess12:56
Echylofazer, now it uses the oss sound server12:57
fazerEchylo: which sound server?12:57
Echylofazer, try the esound12:57
fazerEchylo: oh.. apt-get install esound?12:57
Echylofazer, can't you search it in the vlc settings?12:57
queuetueompaul, No digital camera - Why?12:57
Echylofazer,  normally with plugins I think12:57
fazerEchylo: I have...hmmm12:57
EchyloShachaf, stratagus is the game engine indeed, stratagus-gl is a game based on it, and bos too I guess12:58
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ompaulqueuetue, well where I work we have to do some electronic stuff some times and the other day we used it to take macro photos and them put them on screen the blow up might just show the error12:58
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ompaulqueuetue, it would be nice to include a closeup photo of the board if you could see the errors01:00
fazerEchylo: hmm...it seems that esound is running but I don't know at which port..01:01
ompaulqueuetue, or faults cracks in solder etc01:01
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queuetueAh.01:01
Echylofazer: maybe the command 'netstat' will help you, run it in terminal01:01
fazerEchylo: roger that01:02
queuetueompaul, But you are of the opinion (as am I) that this drive shoud work with standard PATA IDE drives, and there is something wrong that would not necessarily be wrong with another board of the same model?01:02
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Echylofazer, but I'm afraid that won't help you01:02
fazerEchylo: yeah, it didn't.01:03
ompaulqueuetue, I am and it may be good , however I also believe in mass production and failures being in batches01:03
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Echylofazer, can't help you more then, apt-get is downloading, so I can't install vlc01:03
fazerEchylo: ah okay, what time is it for where you are at?01:04
MFKRAlright, I got WINE installed now, but WineTools can't be downloaded and installed, so I guess I'll have to do with the command line. Anyone knows how I could try installing NeverWinter through that?01:04
Echylofazer, ?01:04
queuetueompaul, Ok, I'll probably wind up ordering a second, fedex it, and then get the credit with the RMA...01:04
ompaulif you deal with them on a regular basis go for it01:05
Echylomkfr mount the cd, and type "wine setup.exe"01:05
fazerEchylo: where are you from?01:05
Echylofazer, belgium01:05
fazerEchylo: ah, Canada here.  7 AM =(01:06
fazerI shoud've been in bed hours ago01:06
Echylo:)01:06
Echyloit's 1pm here01:06
queuetueompaul, I don't - would you go with a different vendor and justr return the board?01:06
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MFKREchylo, what's the command for mounting the CD?01:06
EchyloMFKR, normally it mounts a cd automatic01:06
Echyloso just "cd /dev/cdrom"01:07
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fazeror /media/cdrom01:07
Echylobut I don't think that wine can handle Never winter nights01:07
Echyloyou'll need cedega for that I'm afraid01:07
ompaulqueuetue, na I would give them a chance - and tell them if they have had any other returns of that model you want something else01:07
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fazerdidn't Never Winter Nights releaes  Linux version? Or is that Server only?01:07
EchyloI thought they released a linux installer01:08
Burgundaviafazer, yes01:08
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fazerBurgundavia: yes as in server only?01:08
xvlunNWN is available for linux for some years now...01:08
Echyloyes as in linux version I think01:08
Burgundaviafazer, both01:09
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Echylolel01:09
fazerAh01:09
carambolfirefox-1.0.3 not available for ubuntu?01:09
fazerEchylo: so, you are setting up VLC?01:09
MFKRIs it just an installer or a different version though?01:09
Echylofazer, no not yet01:09
Echylooh it is now :lp01:09
fazerEchylo: ah, hehe.01:09
Echylobut it's pretty slow, comp is ripping cd01:10
MFKRHmm, I found the installer actually.01:10
MFKRNot sure if it'll work with my version though (Platinum)01:10
Echylogive it a try01:10
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davixhow can I install "call of duty" on linux?01:11
Echylocarambol, that firefox will probably be available in breezy, but I don't advise you to upgrade yet, cause it's pretty broken(own experiences)01:11
schasiIs there a Ubuntu netinstall cd?01:11
EchyloDavix you'll need cedega :)01:11
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davixwhat is cedega?01:11
flipyhi01:11
MFKRIf the installer doesn't work, will I need Cedega and WINE though?01:11
Echyloschasi, I don't think so, not sure though maybe unoffically01:11
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carambolthx Echylo01:12
flipyis there any way to install hoary in a fake-raid (mobo controller raid)?01:12
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Echylodavix, cedega supports game better, for linux and has a better support for directx01:12
davixerm, so is there a manual for it01:12
fazermhmm01:12
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Echylodavix, cedega is not 'free' though01:12
fazerVLC plays it more smoother than it did on Windows.01:13
Echylofazer, linux handles memory better01:13
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bet0xfazer, VLC rulz :D01:13
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fazerEchylo, bet0x heh yeah, now only if my video card driver was better.01:14
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gooHello - I just installed Hoary, and my Firefox doesn't go to urls pasted into it - anyone knows why?01:14
fazerEverytime I scroll a page, it lags and makes the cpu reach 100%01:14
Echylodavix, check out www.transgaming.com (search amule or your p2p prog for cedega ;))01:14
Echylofazer, yea same here01:14
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fazerEchylo: you get the same scrolling issue?!01:14
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Echylofazer, where?01:14
Echylopj01:14
Echylono01:14
ploum I've installed Ubuntu Hoary. Before launching Evo for the first time, I've put my backup in ~/.evolution01:15
fazerEchylo: wait, what were you referring to when you said 'yeah, same here'01:15
ploumAll was fine01:15
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ploumexcept that I've no more others adressbooks than "Personnal" :-(01:15
Echylofazer, the need for a better video card :D01:15
fazerEchylo: true01:15
queuetueompaul, Well, the machine just stopped POSTing completely. :)01:15
Echylofazer, I have this old pc so I actually need a new one :)01:15
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arbiter_devi installed 5.04 for my cousin today, and she has a Dell A920 printer, which is a rebranded Lexmark 1150, the only howto i could locate was for SuSe and had an RPM, any experience here with this printer?01:16
ompaulqueuetue, that might just perhaps on the off chance be some hardware issue01:16
fazerEchylo: i have an old laptop, look forward to getting an ibook or something soon.01:16
Echylo:)01:16
fazerEchylo: mine's a 366 MHz with 160 MB ram, how about you?01:16
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Echylo"p2 433mhz 192 ram"01:16
fazerEchylo: oh and its laptop btw =/01:16
Echylohere it's just a desktop pc01:16
Echyloand I have a p1 65ram too01:17
fazerAh01:17
Echylothat's the messing with everything machine ;)01:17
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queuetueompaul, Now, it posts - 15 or 16 power-off-power-on cycles...01:18
yahalomhow do i make my spool directory to be mode 01777?01:19
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fazerEchylo: yeah, thats always neat to have.  So, how's VLC doing?01:19
MyNameIsChrisHi, how do I install a .deb file in my home directory?01:19
Echylofazer, installed, you'll just have to wait for my cd being ripped(1minute remaining)01:19
fazerEchylo: ah awesome01:19
yahalomanyone know?01:20
maddlerMyNameIsChris... dpkg -i filename.deb01:20
Echylosudo dpkg -i filename.deb01:20
Echylo;)01:20
Echyloor nor?01:20
Echylonot?01:20
MyNameIsChrismaddler, thanks, I am still getting used to Debian package management01:20
maddlerhehehe... me too... :)01:20
MyNameIsChrisEchylo, Thanks as well, you will have to be faster next time01:21
kyncaniMyNameIsChris: i assume the app you want is not available with synaptic ?01:21
Echylolel01:21
Echylofazer, i'm looking in preferences now, can't find anything until now01:21
MyNameIsChriskyncani, I searched with apt-cache with the sources I got from ubuntuguide.org01:22
fazerEchylo: oh?01:22
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Echylofazer,  have you tried to change the output audio module?01:22
kyncaniMyNameIsChris: and you've enabled main, restricted, universe and multiverse in your sources.list ?01:23
fazerEchylo: Probably, but not sure to which one?01:23
Echylojust pick one :P01:23
Echyloaha01:23
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Echylodo this01:23
Echylosudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-esd01:23
fazerEchylo: ooh01:24
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fazerEchylo: damn, thats cool.  *hugs Ubuntu*01:24
TheBoneSilverGiorno a tutti01:24
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MyNameIsChrisouch01:24
fazerEchylo: Plugin not found?01:24
fazer*package01:24
fazeroh wait nevermind01:25
Echylooh euhm have you activated the hoary universe repo?01:25
fazeri gave "install" twice01:25
fazerits Reading now.01:25
Echylooh :D01:25
fazerEchylo: haha yeah, I make a lot ofmistakes, anyways, so now that its done, what do I do? just run it now?01:25
Echylono01:25
Echylofazer, launch vlc, go to preferences, audio, below activate advanced options, audio module to esound01:26
Echylogtg now01:26
fazerEchylo: awesome! thanks.01:26
Echylobut does it works?01:27
fazerEchylo: no, doesn't seem to01:27
fazerstill gives that /dev/dsp error.01:27
markumanfor ubuntu gamers there is now an irc channel -> #ubuntu-gaming ;-)01:28
fazeralong with this:01:28
fazer[00000272]  esd audio output error: cannot open esound socket (format 0x00001021 at 44100 Hz)01:28
MyNameIsChrismarkuman, thanks01:28
MyNameIsChrismarkuman, I do have a few questions01:29
sparklingwhen i try to run Totem i get "impossible to run, busy resource or not available" but some days ago i was using totem to listen mp3...do you how i can resolve? i've already tried to remove and reinstall...01:29
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dadevening all01:29
TheBoneSilverhello , i have a problem , when i try to receive a file from Msn , the transfer is very slow , why ?01:29
fazerTheBoneSilver: that is sometimes the sender's fault..01:30
floatersparkling: cannot run program or cannot run video/audio on it ?01:30
fazerTheBoneSilver: what is the sender's connection?01:30
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sparklingfloater,  cannot run the program01:30
floaterk, donno then01:30
megamindhi there01:31
megamindhow is everyody01:31
TheBoneSilverfazer : I have connection very fast , also the sender01:31
fazerEchylo: you there?01:31
fazerTheBoneSilver: then, not sure..01:31
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megamindi need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...01:31
megamindi need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...01:31
TheBoneSilverfazer : can it depended from firewall ?01:31
fazerTheBoneSilver: hmm...i would say no, if it did, your connection won't go through then..01:32
fazerTheBoneSilver: i have had the same problem myself...01:32
fazerTheBoneSilver: its usually you or the sender or both...01:32
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fazerTheBoneSilver: if the other user has MSN Messenger and you are using Gaim, then there's a difference.01:32
fazerBut anyways, I must get some shut eye, good nights.01:32
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Benjamin_Lis there any workaround to show volume icons on the desktop in breezy ? gnome-volume-manager works as it should01:33
megamindi need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...01:33
megamindi need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...01:33
megamindi need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...01:33
megamindi need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...01:33
megamindi need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...01:33
megamindi need some help about squid .. in ubuntoo ...01:33
LinuxJonesmegamind, please don't do that01:33
megamindokz ... sorry01:33
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megamindlinuxjones can u help me abt that ... plz01:34
emilieI can't print pdf files from xpdf. Do I need another reader?01:34
LinuxJonesmegamind, I have necer run squid there might be an actual irc channel on freenode for it tho.01:34
LinuxJonesnever*01:35
ssamemilie, try installing evince01:35
megamindoh ... how can i trace that irc channel on free node any idea ?01:35
LinuxJonesmegamind, you can do /list to list all the channels01:36
ssamtry #squid01:36
Benjamin_Lis tehre a way to show active /dev entries ?01:36
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emiliessam> Squid for me?01:36
ssambenjamin_L, do you mean find out whats mounded01:37
ssamemilile, no squid for megamind01:37
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ssambenjamin_L, do you mean find out whats mounted01:37
Benjamin_Lssam, well sort of, my card reader doesn't show and so i need to mount it manually01:37
Benjamin_Lgnome-volume-manager detecs it correctly01:38
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ssambenjamin_L, if you type 'mount' you get a list of mounted drives01:38
megamindso i think i can not seek the help here about squid as i can not see that package at synaptic package manger :(01:38
Benjamin_Lssam, nothing there which could be the reader01:38
ssambenjamin_L, 'fdisk -l /dev/sda' will list all the partitions on a drive01:39
emiliessam> do I need to upgrade to hoary?01:39
LinuxJonesemilie, not unless you want newer software01:39
ssambenjamin_L, /dev/sda is the usually point for usb drives01:39
LinuxJonesemilie, if everything is working ok you don't have to01:39
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Benjamin_L"fdisk -l /dev/sda" does nothing, and yes, it should be sda1 but nothing is there01:39
ssamemilie, probably for evince, or you could try gdpf (i think that is in the warty universe)01:40
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ssambenjamin_L, warty or hoary?01:40
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Benjamin_Lbreezy ^^01:40
Benjamin_Lmainly hoary01:40
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Benjamin_Lmaybe the udev update screwed things up01:41
emiliessam> I couldn't apt-get either one...01:41
ssambenjamin_L, oh, stuff may have broken, you could try the dev mailinglist/forum01:41
ssamemilie, do you have the universe enabled01:41
emiliessam> ahh but gpdf worked...01:41
Benjamin_LI'll take a look in the mailing lists, but irc is my main "question area" ^^01:41
emiliessam> made a spellingerror01:42
jhaigWould people recommend using Ubuntu on a server?  I would use plain Debian otherwise.01:42
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ssambenjamin_L, yes, but if the right people arn't in the irc room at the moment, then they wont see the message, mailinglist and forums will get noticed eventually01:43
Benjamin_Lsure01:43
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ssambenjamin_L, is there a dev irc room? #ubuntu-dev ?01:43
LinuxJonesssam, #ubuntu-devel01:44
bet0xthe people here never sleep ? :p01:44
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emiliessam> gpdf seems to have the same problem...01:44
Benjamin_Lssam, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27286 here we go :(01:44
Benjamin_Li know i should have kept hoary01:45
LinuxJonesBenjamin_L, your having problems with Breezy ?01:45
jsgotangcohe should have problems with it01:45
ssamemilie, can you print anything? like a test page in the print preference panel01:45
Benjamin_LLinuxJones, yep, just take a look at the forum thread01:45
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jsgotangcoits bound to break anytime01:46
emiliessam> Yes it is only PDF that's a problem...01:46
Benjamin_Ljsgotangco, almost never had problems with "pre-hoary"01:46
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jsgotangcoBenjamin_L hoary broked a couple of times01:47
ssamemilie, could you be missing something like ghostscript?01:47
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emiliessam> maybe01:47
Benjamin_Lguess I'll have to wait :)01:47
emiliessam> but then I would not be able to print at all would I?01:47
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ssamemilie, i am not sure about how the print system works01:48
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emiliessam> ok01:48
ssamemilie, if you ergently need to print a pdf, try opening it in gimp01:48
bet0xIRC is a global forum where people of all creeds, colors, and religions can come together and make fun of slow witted people mercilessly.......01:48
Burgundaviabet0x, not on #ubuntu01:49
ssamemilie, set a the dpi to 300 or more, and set strong anti-aliasing01:49
bet0x=)01:49
jmehow do I change the default media player from xine to totem?01:49
Havok_hi guys01:49
ssamemilie, then you'll get a large high res bitmap that gimp can print01:49
Havok_anyone got xdamage and xcomposite to work with XFCE?01:49
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pisukehi. I get no sound with mms:// files in totem-xine, all plugins installed. any ideas?01:50
ssamhavok_, no but i got drop shadows in gnome01:50
Havok_ssam: are they hardware accelerated?01:50
Havok_just wondering about the capabilities of the stock x.org package in ubuntu01:51
ssamhavok_, yes, i have an ati radeon, with the open source drivers#01:51
emiliessam> It's not very urgent... It's rather something I want to fix permanently...01:51
Havok_ssam: cool, I have a radeon as well and was about to build the drivers01:51
Benjamin_Lis there a way to apt-get older packages, something like --force ?01:52
Havok_I was planning on using the ATI ones though, but maybe I will try the open source ones01:52
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ssamhavok_, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DropShadows01:52
emiliessam> The printer recieves the message to print, but only prints rubish...01:52
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ssamemilie, i am affraid that is beyond me01:53
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ikaromojn01:53
Sionide#  Customer: "How much do Windows cost?"01:54
Sionide# Tech Support: "Windows costs about $100."01:54
Sionide# Customer: "Oh, that's kind of expensive. Can I buy just one window?"01:54
emiliessam> ok... Thanx anyway01:54
Havok_ssam: thanks for the link, do you find the radeon drivers slow?01:54
emiliei have trouble printing PDF files. Anyone knows howto?01:55
ssamhavok_, i use powerpc (apple mac), so i cant use the biary drivers, but the os ones seem fine01:55
Havok_ssam: ok thanks for the help01:56
emiliei cannot print pdf from either gpdf nor xpdf. Please help me01:57
Havok_emilie: what printer do you have?01:57
emiliehavok> HP laserjet 5l01:57
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Havok_emilie: can you print pictures etc from other applications, or just text01:58
xplodahej01:58
emilieHavok_> Actually havn't tried it Just a minute01:58
ssamemilie, have you searched the forums01:59
emiliessam> yes02:00
jhaig(Try again - didn't get an answer before, or missed it)  Would people recommend using Ubuntu on a server?  I would use plain Debian otherwise.02:00
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emiliessam: there seems to be a bug of some sort, but I couldn't find any solutions02:01
Kamping_Kaiserjhaig. use debian02:01
thenukejhaig: well I like to use ubuntu as a server02:01
Kamping_Kaiserwe tried ubuntu as a server and we desided to just move it to debian02:01
jhaigI get the impression that Ubuntu is mainly targetted at the desktop.  That's why I ask.02:02
Echyloah fazer is gone?02:02
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tbirdmorning all02:03
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phanterhello there. I just removed skype because it would not work. who is willing to help me trying it to get to work again ?02:05
Kamping_Kaiserphanter. what was it doing?02:05
ssamhttps://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/view?searchterm=skype02:05
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phanterfirst i got it that fat that i could hear it ringing. than I could not speak or hear in a phonecall. After a reinstallation It is not able to give any sound02:06
emilieHavok_: Tried printing other picture... The printer freaks out completely... Print naked pages... It's disgusting02:07
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Kamping_Kaiseri hav had problesm too02:07
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phantereuh yes. i did install skype via the standard procedure but that does not work02:07
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Havok_emilie: do you know what driver you are using?02:08
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Havok_if you are using the ljet5 try the ljet4 instead02:09
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phanterI got skype totally working one time, but that ment that I had to close some sound drivers before I could make or receive a call and afterards relaod those drivers again. That was not a very nice way of working with skype02:10
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emilieHavok_: I'll try that02:12
davixwho told me before about the call of duty installation?02:15
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nydusthow do i make a file writeablel?02:16
nydustchmod ????02:16
Plukchmod +x file02:17
emilieHavok_: I already have the ljet4 as it turns out02:17
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ssamnydust, go to the permissions tab on a files properties02:18
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Plukgreat just created a desktopmenu on xfce02:20
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nydustssam, from consol,02:21
nydustPluk, what with an dir?02:21
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reikd_hi02:22
ssamnydust, thats from nautilus02:22
Pluknydust, the same02:22
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xfsHello! Anyone knowing how to get the unichrome-drivers to work on a aspire-laptop?02:24
ssamnydust, from terminal, chmod WHO+WHAT FILE, where who is 'u' for owner, 'g' for group, 'o' for other. WHAT is 'r' for read, 'w' for write, and 'x' for execute(run)02:24
Havok_emilie: what happens if you open up a console and type "echo hello | lp"02:25
megamindhi again ... anybody willing to help me on some basics of ubuntoo ... plz02:25
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abloylas?02:26
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diaouneHi. Any PPC Ubuntu users have a working Macromedia flash plugin?02:26
lunitikmegamind: if you ask us a question... we'll try to answer  :/02:26
megamindthanks ... i wan to know i want to configure the smb.conf file .. and i can not login as root ... what do i do ?02:27
lunitikmegamind: most don't appreciate people asking to ask...02:27
jaco^gibernau has an ubuntu distro on his moto?02:27
ssamdiaoune, i think you are out of luck02:27
jaco^:)02:27
lunitikmegamind: firstly, you just want to connect to another box? you don't need to touch that file02:27
ssamdiaoune, macromedia dont make a powerpc/linux version02:27
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lunitikmegamind: that file is to configure the server functions of samba02:27
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MuinainenKoskio.o anyone know what to do when ubuntu says "invalid compressed format (err=2)" when i've runned the server type of installation from the ubuntu cd and tried to reboot to run it?02:28
diaouneI saw an option on a gentoo forum using qemu, but i don't know how to get the x86 flash plugin onto my system02:28
mgorwhere can i get the standard kernel configuration?02:28
lunitikmegamind: also, for root permissions, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:28
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megamindyes ... but how else can i set ... users and home directory and etc02:28
diaounessam macromedia sux0rs02:28
ssamdiaoune, you could look at swfdec02:28
emilieHavok_: request id is LaserJet-5L-31 (1 file(s))02:29
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diaounessam, looking :)02:29
lunitikmegamind: you do that at the server... you are setting a server? a workgroup situation is fine for home use...02:29
mgorheh, nm02:29
ssamdiaoune, or qemu might be possible, but i am not sure if it would play nice with a native firefox02:29
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mgori'm just so stupid. /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386 maybe? :P02:29
BC-bdhello02:29
abloylasHi! Could somebody help me play asf stream in firefox? What codecs do I need?02:30
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jaco^gibernau is fallen02:30
jaco^hghghghg02:30
megamindok ... but how can i set the home dir and workgroup name and accounts which can access and IP address that are allowed ?02:30
jaco^rossi is second02:30
lunitikmegamind: you do that when you are sharing the file  :/02:30
emilieHavok_: What does that meen?02:30
emilieHavok_: What does that mean?02:30
lunitikmegamind: they don't need a home dir though if a workgroup situation02:30
Havok_emilie: it doesn't print anything? maybe it should be lpr instead of lp02:30
MuinainenKoskianyone know what to do when ubuntu says "invalid compressed format (err=2)" when i've runned the server type of installation from the ubuntu cd and tried to reboot to run it? T_T;02:31
BC-bdI am installing 5.04. i was never asked to enter a http_proxy, thus the installation niow hangs at testing repository.02:31
ntoskrnllunitik : i can't play MP3 files in Ubuntu , and when i ever try to run xmms and get freezy02:31
megamindoh ... then when i try to access tha ubuntoo machine on windows 2000 machine it askes for user and pass02:31
lunitikntoskrnl: apt-get install xmms-mp3 ...02:31
ntoskrnllunitik : are you sure?!02:31
lunitikntoskrnl: or gstreamer0.8-mad for rhythmbox02:31
PlukMuinainenKoski, do you have multiple harddisks?02:31
emilieHavok_:now it prints Hello02:31
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lunitikntoskrnl: blah... -mad ... it is in universe though02:32
abloylasto play mp3 on xmms you need to get mpg12302:32
ntoskrnllunitik : i can't run xchat nor Gaim (Connecting)02:32
lunitikabloylas: no02:32
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Havok_emilie: ok, now try "echo hello | a2ps | lpr"02:32
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Havok_emilie:see if it prints garbage or a grey titlebar02:32
lunitikabloylas: apt-cache show xmms-mad02:32
lunitikabloylas: technically you need 'libmad0'  :/02:33
ntoskrnllunitik i'll try it and i'll comeback02:33
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ntoskrnlbrb02:33
abloylaslutnik: are you saying mpg123 is not the way to go for mp3 on xmms?02:33
emilieHavok_: It says bash: a2ps: command not foundlpr: stdin is empty, so no job has been sent.02:34
lunitikabloylas: yes02:34
abloylaslutnik: works for me.02:34
lunitikabloylas: I didn't say it wouldn't work... its just not the 'correct' way  :/02:34
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Havok_emilie: you might have to install the a2ps package02:34
abloylaslutnik: please explain. I'd like to learn.02:35
lunitikabloylas: libmad0 is a far better decoder than mpg123  :/02:35
emilieHavok_: can i apt-get it ou think?02:35
MuinainenKoskiPluk yes i've got 2 hard disks currently, but i didnt even use the other one during install, jsut left it unformatted02:35
Echylohmm what is an ebuild file?02:35
Havok_emilie: yeah, it's in universe IIRC02:35
lunitikemilie: yes02:35
emilieHavok_:apt-getting it now02:36
Havok_emilie: whilst you are installing you should also get the package gs-common02:36
abloylaslutnik: i seem to have libmad0, but i had to get mpg123 for mp3 to work02:36
PlukMuinainenKoski, possibly grub installed wrong on your sys, during boot in grub menu press e on the first entry02:36
Havok_which includes a tool for converting pdf to a printers postscript format02:36
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ssamyou might want to try beep-media-player instead of xmms02:37
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emilieHavok_:All installed02:37
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MuinainenKoskiit doesnt boot in grub menu. first it says its loading lilo, then validating bios, once those two are done its "uncompressing linux" and after that it gives me that error :x02:37
SuperCatFroghi - does anybody know where i can get kdebindings (or just ruby-qt) from? i dont wanna compile from source because i want upgrading to be just a apt-get dist-upgrade (i haven't even customised the kernel)02:37
PlukMuinainenKoski, possibly the entry there states: root            (hd1,x) or somthing wich should be (hd0.x)02:38
lunitikSuperCatFrog: last I checked, kdebindings is in universe02:38
Plukwhere x is your root partition02:38
SuperCatFroglunitik - ok, i'l look thanks02:38
emilieHavok_: emilie@bryggernet ~ $ echo hello | a2ps | lpr02:38
emilie[stdin (plain): 1 page on 1 sheet] 02:38
emilie[Total: 1 page on 1 sheet]  sent to the default printer02:38
emilielpr: stdin is empty, so no job has been sent.02:38
dave__hi, just installedubuntu, im a new linux user so dont know much, i downloaded xmms to play my mp3's, which i can see via my windows network, but when i try to ./configure, it says i have no c compiler02:38
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Havok_emilie: maybe "echo hello | a2ps" is enough02:39
DenHi02:39
lunitikdave__: 'apt-get install build-essential'02:39
DenHi girls!!!02:39
lunitikdave__: but why are you compiling xmms?02:39
SuperCatFrogPackage kdebindings is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:39
SuperCatFrogThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:39
SuperCatFrogis only available from another source02:39
justinfanyone know how to disable tap-to-click on a laptop trackpad in Hoary?02:39
dave__do i type that ina terninaml window luntik? i dont know how else do i install it, im new, i dont really know what im doing02:40
MuinainenKoskiPluk: thanks it worked, i had bios set to read hd1 before hd0, silly me ;x02:40
lunitikSuperCatFrog: *shrug*  ... ask in #kubuntu then... was there last I checked02:40
Echylodave__, open a terminal & type "sudo apt-get install xmms"02:40
Pluk:)02:40
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SuperCatFroglunitik - ive been asking in there, here and #ruby for days - can you check its definately there now?02:40
lunitikdave__: type 'apt-get install xmms-mad' ... make sure universe is enabled though...02:40
Echylohttp://www.ubuntuguide.org02:41
emilieHavok_: It sends to the printer but the printer goes down... Blinks the errorlight02:41
dave__xmms-mad or just xmms? universe??02:41
lunitikSuperCatFrog: in 'days' you haven't figured out how to look yourself?02:41
bet0xroot@ubuntu:~ # shfsmount root@starhome.biz:/home/barrahom /mnt/remote02:41
bet0xroot@starhome.biz's password:02:41
bet0xstdin: is not a tty02:41
bet0xshfsmount: shfs filesystem not supported by the kernel02:41
bet0xroot@ubuntu:~ # mount02:41
bet0xany use ssh file system here?02:41
bet0xlike a normal file system, but over ssh with fuse..02:42
lunitikdave__: installing xmms-mad will also install xmms... but give you mp3 support right away02:42
SuperCatFroglunitik - yes i have, its not there for me02:42
SuperCatFroglunitik - if its there for you, i know my config is wrong02:42
Havok_emilie: that's wierd, seems like your printer isn't accepting postcript, I thought all the laserjets did02:42
lunitikdave__: instead of installing xmms first, then xmms-mad when you figure out you need it  ;)02:42
cikilinis anybody using valknut?02:43
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lunitikSuperCatFrog: I don't care about KDE things... and you seem unable to help yourself... why should I help you when you can't help yourself?02:43
abloylasCould somebody help me play asf stream in firefox? What codecs do I need?02:43
emiliehavok_: It says so on linuxprinting aswell02:43
dave__oopsalready typed just xmms oh well guess ill type that next02:43
abloylaslutnik: thanks, i removed mpg12302:43
phanterhey i noticed that there are less updates available for ubuntu. Is that really the case or has it to do with my settings02:43
lunitikabloylas: you're welcome02:43
dave__thanks for ure help02:43
lunitikdave__: you know how to enable universe?02:43
dave__know anything about configuring wifi cards?02:43
dave__nope what is it?02:43
lunitikdave__: it is where xmms-mad is...02:44
SuperCatFroglunitik - it doesn't matter. ive been googling and asking on irc for days. all you have to do is pretend to install it (surely there's an option to apt-get) or even apt-cache search kdebindings02:44
phanteri have my wireless working02:44
SuperCatFrogand just tell me if its there, but its ok, doesn't matter.02:44
justinfwireless working fine here too02:44
lunitikdave__: just find the 'deb' line that lists universe at the end02:44
justinfpcmcia install barfs though when you upgrade to hoary02:44
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lunitikSuperCatFrog: www.apt-get.org02:45
dave__?? deb line? wassat?02:45
justinfthe line that starts with deb02:45
dave__sorry for my ignorance im new to it all02:45
Havok_emilie: you could try resetting your printer (manually) and sending the pdf file directly02:45
lunitikdave__: gah... in /etc/apt/sources.list... but maybe you shouldn't be editing that yourself...02:45
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justinfdave - just use the synaptic manager02:46
dave__lol probably true!02:46
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SuperCatFroglunitik - just 3.1.0 (too old): http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=kdebindings&submit=Submit&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all02:46
emilieHavok_:How do I send it directly?02:46
lunitikdave__: in System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager ... go to Settings > Repository and look for the first listing for 'universe'... make sure it is on02:46
jaco^breeze is started?02:46
jaco^i want upgrade to breeze02:47
cikilinis anybody using valknut?02:47
lunitikSuperCatFrog: guess you have to compile it then  :/02:47
lunitikSuperCatFrog: have fun02:47
Echylojaco don't :)02:47
SuperCatFrogthanks anyway lunitik02:47
Havok_emilie: so if your file is "foo.pdf" then "pdf2ps foo.pdf" to convert it to a ps file, then "lpr foo.ps"02:47
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jaco^sgrunt, let's go ubuntu developers :)02:47
lunitikjaco^: change 'hoary' to 'breezy' in /etc/apt/sources.list02:47
Echylojaco it's broken, it'll break your hotpl :)02:47
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phanterhey there, I use Hoary, but i noticed that most of my software has not been updates for more than a week. Are there no updates available?02:47
Echylono phanter02:47
ssamjaco^, are you sure you want to02:47
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lunitikEchylo: it isn't broken if you don't use kernel 2.6.10-5  :/02:48
Echylowell02:48
Echylo:p02:48
Echylosst02:48
ssamjaco^, there could be lots of problems02:48
jaco^ssam i'm not interested to have a stable distro on this pc02:48
jaco^i like make experiment02:48
ssamjaco^, ok, just checking02:48
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Echylojust got it broken :)02:48
justinflunitik: hoary is on kernel 2.6.10 - maybe thats why my laptop trackpad has gone all funny since i upgraded from warty...02:48
lunitikEchylo: heh... here, 2.6.10-5 won't even boot though... complains about something to do with not able to load VFS...02:48
jaco^anyway hoary was stable also in the first stage of development02:48
tevaumjaco^: ok.. but libc and gcc are'n completely up! take care...02:48
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Echylolunitik, it booted02:49
lunitikjustinf: hoary uses 2.6.10-4 ... which is perfectly fine... breezy uses 2.6.10-5, which is b0rked02:49
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lunitikEchylo: for you, not for me  :/02:49
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Echylowell that's what I mean with broken ;)02:49
Echyloit didn't print here, gftp crashed all the time etc02:50
tbirdim using breezy and the 2.6.10-5-386 kernel and i have had no problems02:50
Echylonot that much errors02:50
Echylothe 386 works02:50
Echylothe 686 didn't worked here02:50
lunitiktbird: that you know of maybe...02:50
justinfah ha... must be something else so.  darn - anyone know to disable tap-to-click on a trackpad? its not obvious how to do it in gnome..02:50
dave__lunitik im the package mananger and i go to setting srepositories and then i see no universe thing?!02:50
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emilieHavok_: It gave me an error while trying to convert02:50
lunitikEchylo: 386 is what I'm using...02:50
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tbirdlunitik, well everything i do works so im happy02:50
abloylasCould somebody help me play asf stream in firefox? What codecs do I need?02:50
Echylotbird, gl :)02:50
emiliehavok_:made the ps anyway though... can't print it...02:51
tbirdbreezy really dont have that many major changes from hoary02:51
Echylotbird02:51
justinfabloylas - try searching on synaptic for "asf"02:51
Echyloit just started02:51
emilieHavok_:made the ps anyway though... can't print it...02:51
lunitikEchylo: bah... just click the second entry (first is cdrom) and add 'universe' to the end of the Sections line02:51
Echylo?02:51
lunitikdave__: ^^02:51
lunitikEchylo: sorry02:52
Echylooh :)02:52
abloylasjustinf, nothing relevant there02:52
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jazongood morning02:52
Echylogmorning02:52
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tbirdwell  ill run breezy till it becomes stable or it breaks02:52
lunitikabloylas: umm... w32codecs doesn't support that?02:52
tbirdwhichever comes first02:52
Echyloand what will you do then tbird?02:52
Echyloif it breaks02:52
tbirdwhat would anyone do02:52
tevaumjaco^: yeap, but gcc3.3 was already ok.. :P02:52
abloylaslunitik, apparently not. i have that and no cigar02:53
EchyloI had to reinstall ;)02:53
Echyloanyway02:53
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lunitikabloylas: heh... I've never even see an asf stream... so can't speak from experience  :(02:53
tbirdyou boot up with a gentoo cd (has to be good for something) chmod and fix it02:53
jazonI have a problem... After reformatting my external USB NTFS drive with a FAT32 filesystem using QTParted, the drive works beautifully with UBUNT.... it does not work at all on anyone's windows machines anymore.... what the heck did I do wrong?02:53
lunitikabloylas: try the 'all' pack from mplayerhq.hu  though02:53
abloylaslunitik, i want to play the streams on http://www.webtelek.com/tv.php?02:54
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dave__thanks lunitik its downloading some stuff now is that right?02:54
dade`hi all02:54
justinfabloylas - try mplayer and grab all the codecs for it02:54
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dade`who installed ubuntu-ppc hoary on external fw disk ?02:54
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Havok_emilie: it's strange that your printer doesn'taccept the postscript files, can we do one more test02:55
dade`there's no way, ater partitioning it say it's unable to mount root / partition02:55
lunitikjustinf: mplayer and xine can all play those codecs ... they are not specific  :/02:55
lunitikjustinf: totem-xine fits in better with Ubuntu though... so it is a better choice here02:55
emilieHavok_:ofcourse02:55
lunitikjustinf: then, for the same reason, I dislike xmms, but many seem to like that too  :/02:56
abloylasjustinf, what mplayer files should i get?02:56
lunitikabloylas: don't get mplayer02:56
emilieHavok_: What do you want me to do?02:56
Havok_emilie: first let's clear the printer queue "cancel -a" then lets try to print a simple page "echo hello | a2ps -o | lpr"02:56
lunitikabloylas: you already have totem-xine installed?02:56
abloylascan anybody play the streams on http://www.webtelek.com/tv.php?02:56
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abloylasi have totem-xine02:57
RealKillazhey ubuntu!!02:57
jazonI am using the external drive as a removable drive with UBUNTU - I have an HP m10n Media Center PC.  After making the drive FAT32 however, windows won't 'mount' it02:57
RealKillazwhuzzup?!?02:57
dave__right so wifi pcmcia cards, ive got a belkin F5D7010, (broadcom chipset) how do i get that working?02:57
lunitikabloylas: no... but I'm not using the 'all' pack at mplayerhq.hu ...02:57
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emilieHavok_: lpr: stdin is empty, so no job has been sent.02:57
jazonughhhhhh HPm1080n*02:57
lunitikabloylas: just get that, extract contents, and throw them into /usr/lib/win32 and try to view them again02:57
emilieHavok_: It complains about arguments too02:58
abloylaslunitik, should i get the 'all' pack but not mplayer??02:58
lunitikabloylas: correct...02:58
Havok_emilie: sorry missed out a dash "echo hello | a2ps -o - | lpr -r"02:58
lunitikabloylas: w32codecs is the 'essential' pack02:58
abloylaslunitik, will try that, thanks02:59
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abloylasi have w32codecs already02:59
blueprismCould someone point me to what i am missing i have installed ubuntu 5.04 and just attempted to build 2.6.10 on my laptop all compile goes without any flaws but when i have added it to lilo and attempt to reboot, and then selecting the new kernel in the lilo prompt it stops at : Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.02:59
mishofQ: how can i make a shell script to be an executable ? (so that if i put it in a /bin folder i will later be able to call it from anywhere) ?03:00
klaasmishof: Yes you can.03:00
mishofklaas, how?03:00
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klaasAt the first line of your script add: #/bin/bash03:00
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mishofthats it ?03:00
emilieHavok_: That worked great03:01
justinfmishof chmod it to make it executable03:01
ssammishof, chmod u+x filename.sh03:01
klaasOr the program that should interpret the script, and chmod 755 yourscript.sh03:01
Havok_emilie: ah, good, so it's got a nice grey title bar with the filename?03:01
mishofthanks03:01
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lunitikbluefoxicy: you could have missed many things... kinda hard to help you compiling a kernel from IRC  :/03:02
tombshi ppl03:02
emilieHavok_: Yeah... something like that03:02
klaasmishof: You might want to put the script in /home/youruser/bin, or /usr/local/bin to keep it separated from other programs.03:02
mishofklaas, its in /usr/local/bin03:02
lunitikHavok_: are the famous gnome hacker? or just a fan  :P03:02
Havok_emilie: then can you find the ps file that was made before and try "lpr -r fo.ps"03:02
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eeeare the developers of ubuntu here?03:03
Havok_lucychili: no not me :) this was my gaming nick for about 10 years though :)03:03
mishofworks, thanks guys :)03:03
lunitikeee: some are on and off...03:03
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Havok_lunitik: no not me :) this was my gaming nick for about 10 years though :)03:03
lunitikHavok_: ;)03:03
klaasmishof: sorry, it has to be: #!/bin/bash03:03
lunitikeee: what do you need?03:04
eeenothing special, i just wanted to ask :D03:04
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klaasforgot the exclamation mark.03:04
justinfeee - we are all developers of ubuntu - including you.03:04
mishofklaas, it worked anyway :O03:04
Plexyshi, i'm currently using Ubuntu with gnome but i want to install KDE. how do i do this?03:04
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BurgundaviaPlexys, install kubuntu-desktop03:05
lunitikjustinf: strange way to look at it...03:05
eeebye! cya03:05
emilieHavok_:nothing so far... Waiting patiently03:05
Plexysthat's all, burgundavia?03:05
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lunitikjustinf: filing bugs helps developers... but it hardly qualifies you as one...03:05
klaasmishof: It's called the shebang, and can be used for allmost any script language. for instance if you have a perl script, you would put in: #!/usr/bin/perl03:05
dave__just a question, do usb pen drives work under ubuntu and if i plug my camera in, will it work or do i need more packages?03:06
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klaasdave__: have you tried?03:06
lunitikdave__: they should Just Work (tm)  ... only way to find out is to try though  ;)03:06
Havok_emilie: I hope at least the data light on the printer is blinking03:06
lunitikdave__: my digital camera has Just Worked everywhere I've used it though for a while03:07
justinfPlexys - look at www.kubuntu.org03:07
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RealKillazguys I hope you can help me.. I want to connect to a windows folder with smbclient but I'm getting this error: samba session setup failed  NT STATUS LOGON FAILURE03:07
dave__aye just reading that ubuntu guide and trying to install messenger... :) oh good will be trying that one later then03:07
RealKillazI shared the folder on the windows box by everyone..03:07
lunitikdave__: you already have a messenger that supports AIM ICQ Y! MSN and a few others  ;)03:07
=== AirWays teurastaa i~[1] Tim ryvri perseeseen kiiltvll sateenvarjolla!
RealKillazand now I'm checking the files shared on the service with smbclient -L killabeast03:08
klaasRealKillaz: What's your mount command.03:08
emilieHavok_: I think it did shortly03:08
RealKillazbut then I get the error... above03:08
dave__oh right doh whats it called03:08
RealKillazklaas: I'm just using smbclient -L killabeast03:08
lunitikdave__: Applications > Internet > Gaim Internet Messenger03:08
RealKillazto test the service03:08
dave__as i said im new and a bit dumb to it all03:09
lunitikdave__: came to the right place for help though  :)03:09
klaasRealKillaz: Try # mount -t smbfs //yourserver/yourshare /mnt/yourmountpoint -o "username=user,password=pwd,workgroup=whatever,ip=serverip"03:09
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MFKRGah ~03:10
emilieHavok_: i just tried again. It did blink but no print...03:10
Havok_emilie: it's possible that the error in pdf2ps caused it not to print, you could try printing to a file with xpdf to see if that works03:10
klaasRealKillaz: If it start whining, try: "# apt-get install smbfs" and retry.03:10
MFKRI'm having a little trouble here.03:10
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RealKillazklaas: ok03:10
MFKRSeems like my openGL drivers aren't enable, even though the card and the driver does support it. Any clues on how to make it happen?03:10
dave__cool it works i like ubuntu, trying to get gentoo working was too hard for me got so far and couldnt get my mouse to work under X03:11
BurgundaviaMFKR, you have an ati. Do you also have nforce2?03:11
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MFKRYes.03:11
lunitikdave__: Gentoo is definitly not the place to start your Linux experience... takes you back about 10 years to how you used to have to install  :/03:12
BurgundaviaMFKR, read the thing on binarydriver about the apgart thing03:12
lunitikdave__: well, not quite as bad as it was back then... but not far off...03:12
klaasMFKR: apt-get install nvidia-glx03:12
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RealKillazklaas: mount data version is not supported..03:12
lunitikdave__: whoever recommended Gentoo to you, you should personally strangle  ;)03:12
RealKillazklaas: is that whinning?03:12
justinflunitik - he he ... installed it myself last week... what a pain. interesting though.03:12
Burgundaviaklaas, he has an ati chip03:12
RealKillazklaas: ;-)03:12
emilieHavok_: It actually works!!03:13
klaasRealKillaz: have you installed smbfs: "# apt-get install smbfs"03:13
MFKRBurgundavia: What's the URL again? I forgot to bookmark it.03:13
Havok_emilie: it's printing?03:13
lunitikjustinf: I installed it.. got everything working... decided I wanted to try the unstable branch... one emerge -u world, and the thing died  :(03:13
klaasBugundavia: Sorry..03:13
emilieHavok_: It is printing...!03:13
BurgundaviaMFKR, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo03:13
dave__it all started with suse 6.0, then mandrake nd other ones but never had the hardware to actually keep it working, needed windows to work on but now have many computers so decided to put linux on my laptop dual booting with win03:14
lunitikjustinf: took about a week... 950 Duron... not fun03:14
MFKRThanks.03:14
RealKillazklaas: it's working...03:14
RealKillazklaas: great!03:14
huai have add root passwd , but when i enter root terminal it only need my common usr passwd. i feel it's not safe.03:14
Havok_emilie: cool, sorry that it was an around-the-world solution :)03:14
justinflunitik - errrgh.  i spent 36 hours compiling KDE and got everything working over 3 days. and then i thought - whats the point? so i just installed ubuntu on that box.03:14
RealKillazlemme go and read that smbfs thing03:14
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Kamping_Kaiserhow do i make a symbolic link?03:14
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lunitikjustinf: I still don't understand the 'great platform to learn on' argument though... what does typing 'emerge foo' teach you?03:15
dave__right so wifi pcmcia cards, ive got a belkin F5D7010, (broadcom chipset) how do i get that working? do i need different packages?03:15
propagandhiln -sf03:15
emilieHavok_: Can I make it easyer for myself in the future somehow?03:15
BurgundaviaKamping_Kaiser, ln -s from to03:15
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andrekanyone had problems with ubuntu and firewire?03:15
propagandhior just ln -s03:15
andrekoops03:15
dave__i heard broadcom havent been forthcoming with the driver code03:15
upsKamping_Kaiser: ln -s /path/to/target /path/linkname03:15
Havok_emilie: I don't know enough about ubuntu to say why it doesn't work out of the box, but at least you know it's not a problem with your printer, maybe you can change the driver to a generic postscript driver03:15
zxcHow do I install eterm, I've got in off synaptic but I can't find how to open it?03:15
andreki don't know how i made that firewire03:15
Kamping_Kaiserthanks03:15
andrekanyone here ever had problems with ubuntu and limewire?03:15
lunitikandrek: nope... but mainly cuz I don't steal music  ;)03:16
justinflunitik - he he... i found that you can follow all the instructions with gentoo... even if you dont have a clue what all the instructions are about... dont understand the great-to-learn-on argument either.03:16
klaasRealKillaz: You also might want to check out the manpage for smbfs: "# man mount.smbfs"03:16
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propagandhiyeah Limewire is no good on ubuntu03:16
propagandhiget apollon and the giFT libraries03:16
johHey, anyone know of any graphical password changer for GNOME/Ubuntu ?03:16
csturmhey guys! did anyone here try to run luminocity?03:17
dave__also another question am i able to print to a printer attatched to my windows box via my eth conn?03:17
emilieHavok_: Yeah I'll tjeck it out later though... Have to get on with other business, thanx for supporting.03:17
propagandhiit can connect to gnutella, kazaa the open napster network thingy etc03:17
Havok_emilie: I think one problem is that lpr works but lp doesnt, I think that if this problem is solved you would probably be able to print directly (lpr prints directly, whils lp is the print queue)03:17
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Havok_emilie: no problem03:17
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darkauditpropagandhi: I take it you found the FastTrack and Ares plugins on the cerkinfo repository? :)03:17
propagandhiyeah03:17
propagandhijust couldnt think of more at the time03:17
Bromiushey, I have a q re the package manager on a new install.  Asks for password.  no idea what that could be.03:17
klaasDoes anybody have experience with Samsung Yepp devices in ubuntu (or linux general)?03:18
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mkulkehello03:18
klaasMine not detected..03:18
justinfjoh -> users and groups , under System -> Administration03:18
klaasmkulke: Hi03:19
darkauditsometimes the searches will overload apollon, and nothing else I click on will be added to the transfer list... I have to quit and restart03:19
Plexysdoes anyone know how i can grant myself access to copy files into locked directories?03:19
mkulkei try to activate apm support but in 5.04, is this possible at all?03:19
mkulkethe apm module doesn't seem to be present03:19
darkauditPlexys: how 'bout sudo nautilus03:19
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Plexyso, i see. thank you darkaudit03:20
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klaasmkulke: I'm not experienced with apm, doesn't acpi serve the same purposes?03:20
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jaco^a graphical tool to import fonts?03:21
mkulkeklaas: not really, acpi is buggy as hell and won't do anything on this machine03:21
dave__also another question am i able to print to a printer attatched to my windows box via my eth conn?03:21
mkulkei had suse installed before and apm worked quite well03:22
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mkulkenow i even lack information about how much the battery is charged :/03:22
lunitikjaco^: drag them to fonts:// in nautilus03:22
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\shdave__: try cups :)03:22
Bromiusalso, is there anything like the old Xconfigurator command?  My mouse is not working, was wondering how to force it to look for it.03:22
mkulkerunning apmd says "No APM support in kernel"03:23
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huaneed i install a antivirus soft in ubuntu?03:23
jaco^tnks lunitik03:23
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lunitikhua: not really03:23
klaasmkulke: I haven't had any problems with acpi, just: "# modprobe battery"03:23
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dave__oh what the hibernate thing instead of shutting down i click that but the laptop remains on, how do i 'resume' from that?03:24
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eruinbluefish: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15: undefined symbol: _Znwj   <--- what package should a bug like this be submitted to?03:24
boniatohello, i needed to reinstall wxp for other users of my computer, and it overwrites the grub. How can i restore it_ i tried with grub-install, but looks like it can't change mbr, only disks partitions03:24
GNAMis there a repository with blefish?03:24
GNAMblue03:25
lunitikeruin: umm... aspell?03:25
boniatoGNAM, sudo apt-get install bluefish03:25
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Plexyshow do i run the elaborate version of nautilus from the command line?03:25
lunitikGNAM: it is in universe03:25
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lunitikPlexys: the elaborate version?03:25
GNAMuhm03:26
Plexyslunitik: never mind, it was nautilus --browser03:26
boniatohow can i reinstall grub in mbr?03:26
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lunitikPlexys: ha03:26
elcuGNAM: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories03:27
tbirdyeah and if ya wont to run nautilus from fluxbox or another wm or de you do nautilus --no-desktop03:27
klaasboniato: grub-install /dev/hda03:27
boniatook, thx03:27
klaasboniato: or maybe "# dpkg-reconfigure grub"03:27
InitMassanyone using nicotine?03:27
InitMassnicotine the soulseek client03:27
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klaasboniato: Check out the manpage first..03:28
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vanQHello03:28
boniatoklass, i checked grub-install, but i wasn't able to find how to install it in the grub03:28
boniatomaybe what you say: /dev/hda03:28
vanQWhere are all the operators? =(03:29
hualunitik: thanks. i used to install antivirus firstly after install win-system, is it enough safe without it in linux?03:29
GNAMok I found bluefish ;)03:29
Plexyshow come i can't paste my windows .ttf fonts into fonts: ?03:29
klaasboniato: You can also enter the grub shell: "# grub"03:29
vanQExcuse me, but may I ask you a question? Which do you prefer :  Gnome or KDE?03:29
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klaasboniato: then enter "root (hd0,0)" substitute with the target disk.03:30
klaasbiniato: setup (hd0)03:30
boniatoi'll try it, thx03:31
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lunitikvanQ: if you have to ask, you should use GNOME03:31
elcuboniato: http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation03:31
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LycoNHey03:32
boniatothanks again :)03:32
LycoNHow can i resize my linux partition and install windows xp?03:32
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LycoNon the same harddrive03:33
lunitikLycoN: parted03:33
vanQlunitik :  I have never used Linux before... but I am not fond of Microsoft or its products, so I'd like to experiment Linux software sometime... the only question remains:  Which distribution and which graphical interface?03:33
vanQ:)03:33
killeronercomment dpaquet les paquet install ?03:33
elcuLycoN: qparted, partition magic clone.03:33
killeronerqq1 sait je viens d'installer03:33
lunitikvanQ: install Ubuntu03:33
killeronerla ubunut03:33
LycoNqparted?03:33
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blueprismIs there any place where there would be a nice guide to setup xorg with window managers03:33
LycoNok03:33
blueprism?03:33
upsvanQ: you can try ubuntu with the default GNOME03:33
vanQI know nothing of Linux so far, so I appologize for my lack of knowledge03:33
vanQThank you.03:33
lunitikLycoN: no... gparted would be a better choice03:33
LycoNok03:34
killeronerI want install emule03:34
killeronerbut i don't know howw you do03:34
lunitikelcu: don't recommend qt apps in my presence... thanks  :P03:34
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GNAMno, kate is better than bluefish03:34
killeronerya t'il des franais ?03:34
ssamif you install a new window manager with apt or synaptic, it will be added to your session menu in the login screen03:34
LycoNlunitik: is it easy to use?03:34
lunitikLycoN: I think so, yes03:34
elculunitik: i'm a relative noob, what's so bad about them?03:35
ssamis kate any better than gedit?03:35
killeronercan you help me?03:35
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exaltedhi there03:35
killeronerpoeple can i help me?03:35
exaltedWhat id i remove "ubuntu-desktop" package?03:35
exaltedid 0 if03:35
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ssamwhats up killeroner03:35
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demha-x86_64hey guys03:36
elcuexalted: what are you trying to do?03:36
GNAMyes ssam03:36
lunitikelcu: take forever to load on a GNOME desktop... look out of place03:36
GNAMkate is better than gedit03:36
killeroneri want install emule03:36
killeronerit's easy?03:36
exaltedelcu, to remove some other packages it obligates me to remove ubuntu-desktop package03:36
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ssamgnam, in what ways03:36
exaltedelcu, so i have to remove i think03:36
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GNAMi'm using ubuntu but i've installed kubuntu-desktop, to have kate03:36
demha-x86_64anyone know any easy way to pick to show only a specific collumn of output ? e.g ps -aux  and i only want to show the 3rd column ?03:36
killeronerssam03:36
killeroneri have got gnome03:36
lunitikelcu: gparted and qparted are functionally and visually simular... but gparted is GNOME... so a better choice for Ubuntu users03:36
GNAMtry yourself ;)03:36
GNAMmy english is not so good to explain03:37
GNAM;)03:37
elcuexalted: i don't think there's anything to worry about.  i removed totem-gstreamer for totem-xxine and it prompted me to remove ubuntu-desktop.  i did so.  no problems.03:37
tbirdqtparted is nice too03:37
elculunitik: goodo03:37
ssamkilleroner, i have not used emule, is it a peer 2 peer download thingy03:37
killeroneri want dpaqueter emule pazquets03:37
exaltedelcu, it says: t is safe to remove this package if some of the desktop system03:37
exaltedpackages are not desired.  However, it is recommended that you keep03:37
exaltedit installed, because it is used to carry out certain upgrade03:37
exaltedtransitions (such as adding new packages to the system).03:37
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killeroneryes ok03:37
killeronerbut i want install aad aware03:37
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mishofis "#" a note in a shell script ?03:38
killeronerhow do they do?03:38
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wezzerit is not needed in linux03:38
lunitikelcu: not smart... ubuntu-desktop depends totem ... which depends either -gstreamer or -xine... so just apt-get install totem-xine would have been enough, no need to remove ubuntu-desktop, which makes upgrades easier03:38
elcuexalted: i'm not sure then.03:38
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ssamkilleroner, you could try gtk-gnutella03:38
zxcI just tried to put compositing on and now my ubuntu won't boot and is all screwy. Help :(03:38
exaltedelcu, i think that's a virtual package to hold together all the components of the ubuntu  desktop (gnome in this case), i think this is default, and not obligate..03:38
mishofQ: whats the symbol to make a comment in a shell script ?03:38
huai have a 40g hd , i want to install ubuntu at the end 8g of it , can it?03:38
ssammishof, yes # for comments03:38
mishofssam, k thanks03:39
lunitikelcu: the totem-gstreamer dep was an issue of mine during the warty release cycle...03:39
killeronerwhat is this?03:39
exaltedlunitik, what do you intend saying "easy updates"?03:39
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ssamkilleroner, its a peer to peer downloader for linux, if that is what you want03:39
zxchow can I remove my settings purely in command line as I won't be able to use gedit03:39
elcuexalted: i'm running gnome tight now, and i don't have ubuntu-desktop installed.03:39
lunitikexalted: keeps track of what should be installed etc03:39
elcus/tight/right03:39
killeronerso i do a apt-get install gtk-gnutella03:39
killeronerand go it's that,03:40
elculunitik: ah, so you recommend i install it again?03:40
ssamzxc, use nano03:40
zxcssam how?03:40
exaltedlunitik, i was thinking that apt-get get rid of these kind of problems, am i right?03:40
lunitikelcu: if you're using hoary now... yes... shouldn't effect totem-xine though03:40
ssamzxc is it to change the xorg conf03:40
elculunitik: i'm still running warty03:40
zxcssam, yes03:40
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ssamzxc, 'nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf'03:41
zxcssam, should i boot in recovery mode?03:41
lunitikexalted: it tries... but ubuntu-desktop is there to enable us to track what is being released as the next version etc03:41
killeronerthanks03:41
lunitikelcu: ouch03:41
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exaltedlunitik, let's say if i don't want evolution, it obligates me to remove ubuntu-desktop03:41
dave__how do i get my pcmcia wifi card working?03:41
elculunitik: come now, using warty is not *that* bad is it?03:41
ssamzxc, should work from any terminal03:41
lunitikexalted: like features they think should be included... also, I use debfoster, so it makes it easier to keep a clean system too...03:41
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ssamzxc, sorry you'll need to but 'sudo' on the front03:42
lunitikelcu: I dislike using old software... I guess if you don't mind that, its not so bad03:42
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lunitikelcu: technically, you will still get updates for a year  :/03:42
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zxcssam, how do I save in nano?03:42
exaltedlunitik, so this ubuntu-desktop is a virtual package which forms to keep system updated just in the way Ubuntu Team changes it?03:42
klaaszxc: [CTRL] -[o] 03:42
lunitikexalted: indeed...03:43
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elculunitik: i'm only on dial-up so until my Shipit CD arrives, or i can somehow get someone to burn the ISO, i'm happy with Warty.03:43
exaltedlunitik, i mean, if i remove it, my system will be updated without problems, but not in the way team changes it...03:43
ssamelcu, where do you live03:43
lunitikelcu: that works... my situation is rather different  ;)03:43
elcussam: Aus.  according to an op i spoke to, i'll be waiting for up to 10 weeks.03:44
lunitikexalted: correct...03:44
zxcklaas, it says "Come on, be reasonable"03:44
exaltedlunitik, thx03:44
klaaszxc: ??03:44
lunitikexalted: I like a clean system though... so it makes that easier for me  ;)03:44
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ssamelcu, search for cheap linux cds on google, you should find somewhere that will send you cds for cheap03:44
LycoNlunitik: do i have to unmount first?03:44
zxcklaas when I hold ctrl- then enter o as line number it says that03:44
klaaszxc: Oh, sorry, The possible commands are listed at the bottom.03:44
lunitikLycoN: unmount what?03:44
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mkulkehmm03:45
zxcklaas, it doesn''t save "save"03:45
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elcussam: yeah, i might check out the uni IT club.  i haven't found an australian site offering ubuntu CDs in my googling.03:45
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exaltedlunitik, i see, like i said, there are some software that i don't need, so better to remove it instead of keeping all that garbage03:45
ssamzxc, did you use sudo03:45
zxcssam, it's logged me in as root anyway03:45
jazoncould someone please help me with fdisk and make my external hdd readable by windows machines please?  I cannot quite get it figured out03:46
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exaltedjazon, is it formatted?03:46
UnipalIs it possible to download a deb-package and install  it in ubuntu?03:46
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ssamjazon, have tried gparted03:46
elcuUnipal: yep, use dpkg --install <package_name>03:46
zxcis "write out" save?03:46
exaltedUnipal, sure03:46
queuetueUnipal, Yes, man dpkg ( look for --install)03:46
ssamzxc, probably03:46
klaasUnipal: Sure: "#dpkg -i package.deb"03:46
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GhostNr1Any one installed freevo on ubuntu?03:47
jazonexalted, yes it is....fat32.... for a screen image you can look here.... http://juggywill.servebeer.com/fdisk_info    (it should work)03:47
zxcit says ^0 write out03:47
elcuUnipal: you might have issues with dependencies though, so if possible always use the repos.03:47
Unipalthanks all. I'll try that03:47
zxcso how do I enter this command ssam?03:47
GhostNr1I have problem with need python 2.3 but 2.4 are installed03:47
jazonssam, no.  what is sthat?03:47
ssamzxc, ^ means crtl03:47
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ssamjazon, its a graphical partitioner03:47
huahello, install ubuntu must change MBR?03:47
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exaltedjazon, if you say that is formatted as fat32, Win~ OS should see it, i see nothing to change on the Linux based side03:48
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elcuGhostNr1: you might need to install the python-dev package03:48
jazonssam, I used qtparted to change it from ntfs to fat3203:48
klaashua: unless you use the expert mode.03:48
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GhostNr1elco > how do I do that?03:48
jazonexalted, did you look at my link?03:48
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queuetuejazon, qparted converted the disk and the dat aon it from NTFS to Fat32?03:48
jazonqueuetue, no.  i moved all the data off, formatted, then put it back03:49
queuetuejazon, Why didnt you do it in windows?03:49
exaltedjazon, the terminal window says nothing03:49
queuetuejazon, exalted is right - your screenshot doesn't really say anything at all.03:50
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elcuGhostNr1: sudo apt-get install python-dev03:50
jazonqueuetue, i removed windows.  I only have ubuntu03:50
huaklaas: you mean if i use expert mode , i can edit mbr by hand, or it never touch mbr if i want. x03:50
queuetuejazon, Then why do you careif Windows can see the drive?03:50
schasiHere, i still have windows03:50
UnipalI tried to install a deb package, but my machine is a AMD64 while the package is i386. since there is no AMD version, I have look further03:50
jazonqueuetue, exalted -  what would be more informative?03:50
queuetuejazon, fdisk -l ?03:51
exaltedjazon, it would be nice if you give us a list03:51
GhostNr1elco > but everything is pointing to 2.4.1 and it need a version below 2.4 to install03:51
exaltedjazon, like queuetue said03:51
klaashua: You can choose whether you want to install grub or lilo, and whether or not you'd like to overwrite the mbr.03:51
jazonqueuetue, i need it to be able to work on other peoples computers - thus the reason for it being external.... not much good if it only works on my computer....03:51
klaashua: If you choose to install a ubuntu-provided bootloader at all.03:51
queuetuejazon, And what does windows say when you connect it?03:52
vanQdoes anyone here play Blizzard Entertainment -games on Linux and is it difficult to set up?03:52
UnipalI am looking for a good alternative for midnight commander or Total commander. does somebody know a solution?03:52
exaltedjazon, "sudo fdisk -l"03:52
jazonunrecognized device, queuetue03:52
jazonsudo fdisk -l03:52
GhostNr1it say "Dependenc: python(<2.4) but 2.4.1-0ubunto2 is to be installed03:52
lunitikUnipal: you don't want to use Midnight Commander though? 'apt-get install mc'03:52
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lunitikUnipal: it is in Universe03:52
elcuGhostNr1: so you installed python-dev?03:53
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UnipalI use MC, but it it is old and not that user friendly :-[03:53
GhostNr1yes03:53
queuetuejazon, you have a windows problem, not  alinux problem, sound slike.03:53
darkstaryes I agree03:53
jazonok, results in #flood03:54
exaltedjazon, if you have nothing to loose on that ext. drive, ii suggest you to reformat it03:54
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Unipaldoes somebody use Tuc Commander or Gnome commander?03:54
elcuGhostNr1: i was wrong.  you just need the older python version: http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/SourceDependencies03:55
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huaklaas:If I don't install the ubuntu-bootloader,  can I  boot ubuntu via a floppy? During my installing ubuntu , she never ask me to do a boot floppy.03:55
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klaashua: You can create a grub boot-floppy, do you have a bootloader installed at this moment?03:55
GhostNr1elcu > Yes I know that, but how do I make sure it point to 2.3 and not to 2.4.03:56
blueprismholy crap ubuntu-desktop is a dangerous package to install :X03:57
exaltedbluefoxicy, why is that so?03:57
Echylohow do you force a cdrom to eject?03:57
elcuGhostNr1: i'm not quite sure how to downgrade something.  sorry03:57
Echylocause it keeps telling me its busy03:57
lunitikexalted: probably the amount of packages it depends on03:57
exaltedEchylo, "eject"03:57
frank__right click on the desktop03:57
Echyloexalted, that doesn't works03:57
GhostNr1elcu > okej03:57
exaltedlunitik, might be =)03:57
Echyloexalted, it keeps telling me the device is busy03:58
Echylobut I need to switch it03:58
huaklaas: Yes, I have  installed. But I want to install Ubuntu into my another computer which is new than I use now.03:58
lunitikexalted: depends on about 450MB worth of packages  ;)03:58
elcuAnyone else know how to downgrade something?03:58
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deFryskumount /media/cdrom03:58
lunitikexalted: still... makes administration easier  *shrug(03:58
lunitik*03:58
deFryskthen eject03:58
klaashua: What runs on that other pc?03:58
exaltedlunitik, =)03:58
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jazonexalted, is this how you want it sent?03:58
Echyloumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy03:58
Echyloumount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy03:58
EchyloI need to force it03:58
exaltedEchylo, you can force it phisically03:58
frank__elcu apt-get install package_name=1.4.503:58
exalted=)03:58
Echylo:)03:59
elcuGhostNr1: there you go :)03:59
lunitikEchylo: make sure you aren't accessing it... this includes being in the dir03:59
lunitikEchylo: then try again03:59
elcufrank__: thanks.03:59
deFryskEchylo, got nautilus opened in the cdrom ?03:59
EchyloIt's accessing it, it's installing something, but I need the second CD03:59
huaklaas: It's WinXP.03:59
exaltedjazon, i'm not sure if i got the file :)03:59
Echyloit's asking for it03:59
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GhostNr1elcu > thx, I see03:59
klaashua: And what's the problem with installing grub on the mbr? You can boot winxp from grub.04:00
frank__elcu but you need to have a repository with the version you want04:00
jazonexalted, do i need port forwarding for dcc to work?04:00
exaltedjazon, no idea04:00
lunitikjazon: umm... yeah04:00
lunitikjazon: or open the port on the router  :/04:00
klaashua: and if you want it to boot windows by default you just alter the "default" in /boot/grub/menu.lst to the zero-based index of the windows entry, which is probably 4.04:01
jazonexalted,  see if that setting helped04:01
exaltedjazon, it fails04:01
jazonok04:01
jazoni have to see what port to open04:01
huaklaas: My computer has a feature, it can recover my data when it goes wrong, but it must do without changing mbr.04:02
lunitikjazon: if you haven't changed anything on the router... port 80 is likely only port open of router04:02
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lunitikhua: good luck getting boot.ini to find Linux partition04:03
jazon<sigh> here -  http://juggywill.servebeer.com/output04:03
exaltedjazon, failed04:03
vanQExcuse me ... but I was just wondering :: Does anyone here play Diablo II : Lord of Destruction on Linux, using some emulator, for example Wine... I've seen screenshots, but I just wondered if someone here could help me with the matter04:03
jazoncrazy computer...... :S04:03
DanglyBitswhere can i find some new themes for kubuntu?04:04
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klaashua: Okay, that explains. Maybe i can create a boot-floppy for you, you won't have to install grub, and you could boot from that. I'm not very experienced with creating grub bootfloppies though.04:04
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CB201is anyone out there running xmame?  I have one quick question04:04
exaltedjazon, which drive we're talkin' about?04:04
lunitikvanQ: http://www.transgaming.com/04:05
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jintxo_CB201, I run it every once in a while :-) I'm no expert but a quick question might be within my possibliities, heh04:05
jazonexalted, the 160 gig drive04:05
hualunitik: need I copy a file into win?04:05
exaltedjazon, sdb?04:06
lunitikhua: yesh04:06
dave__are there any tools that run under linux for backing up dvds? cus then i might put ubuntu on my desktop too04:06
lunitikyeah*04:06
fitheachhi everybody. does anybody sucessfully use the evolution/OpenOffice.org integration?04:06
CB201jintxo_: I want to add a few more games to the driver file04:06
jazonI was told by someone in #linuxhelp that I could makethis work somehow without erasing the data on the drive, but they wouldn't help me past that.  they actually spent about 30 minutes telling me to figure it out for myself instead of helping me with the command....04:06
exaltedjazon, sdb???04:07
CB201jintxo_: do you know where I can find the directory for drivers?04:07
jazonexalted, yes.  same as http://juggywill.servebeer.com/fdisk_info04:07
huaklaas: another question. It's necessry ubuntu install before 8g.04:07
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jintxo_CB201, within the source? I haven't compiled xmame for a loooooong time :-(04:07
exaltedjazon, as you fdisk says this isn't a FAT drive04:08
klaashua: I'm not sure, though i don't think so.04:08
hualunitik: which file, need I make it?04:08
lunitikCB201: dpkg -L xmame ... look for things in /usr/lib04:08
jintxo_CB201, you'recompiling xmame and want to add support for more games? did I get that right?04:08
exaltedjazon, you = your04:08
lunitikCB201: might be in /lib too... though I doubt it04:08
lunitikhua: there are faqs, try googling04:08
CB201jinxto_: well, every xmame resource I can find out there tells me to look in src/drivers/neogeo.c to edit the file containing drivers for ROMs04:09
CB201jinxto_: but I can't find it04:09
CB201jinxto_: anywhere04:09
jazonexalted, but, qtparted reports it as fat32...... but I do agree with you.  If it were, windows should pick it up in a flash04:09
dave__how do i get my pcmcia wifi card working? its a belkin F5D7010...04:09
jintxo_CB201, so they mean you need to edit the source file and recompile. that's quite advanced for a quick question, hehe :-)04:10
exaltedjazon, so you now what to do right? i have no idea about qtpartedi but fdisk no lies =)04:10
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DanglyBitsis there a way to get limewire on ubuntu?04:10
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jazondave__, ndiswrapper ubuntu howto on google.  or you can pay $20 and go to driverloader.com04:10
jintxo_CB201, that file should be within the source package you download from the xmame site04:10
dave__ta jazon04:10
huaklaas: I need your grub-boot floppy. thanks.04:10
CB201jinxto_: well, I've used emulators like this before, and it's not in the actual source file...and I generally shouldn't have to recompile04:11
jintxo_DanglyBits, you can download it from their page04:11
klaashua: creating it as we speak.04:11
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jazonexalted, well, no, I don't know what to do actually.  apparently there is non-destructive command in fdisk to make the drive dos compatible04:11
lunitikCB201: just out of curiosity, what are you trying to emulate?04:11
jintxo_CB201, but they're poniting you to a .c (source) file04:11
jazondave__, np.  good luck with that.  wifi can be a challenge04:11
lunitikCB201: if you say snes, I get to slap you  :P04:11
exaltedjazon, no actually with fdisk there's no way to keep your data, and change formatting; if that's what you want to do.04:12
CB201lunitik: I'm trying to add metal slug 5 to my list of supported games04:12
CB201lunitik: I use zsnes for snes ROMs mate04:12
lunitikCB201: :)04:12
astro76CB201: you absolutely have to recompile to do what you want, the mame team doesn't enable those games for a reason, namely they still are in arcades making money04:12
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DanglyBitsjintxo: which version...other (solaris, os/2, linux) ?04:13
CB201astro76: gah.  well, I've never recompiled xmame before04:13
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astro76lunitik: NeoGeo arcade system04:13
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jintxo_DanglyBits, um... I would think the linux one...04:14
CB201that's why I need to edit neogeo.c04:14
lunitikastro76: haha... still not very enlightened  ;)04:14
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DanglyBitsjintxo:is there a howto for it anywhere?04:15
CB201exactly how do I got about recompiling it? I got it from synaptic originally04:15
jintxo_CB201, compiling xmame is real easy, give it a go. the readme they provide is excellent04:15
vanQWow... I'm really on a good mood now... guess why?04:15
dave__jazon where do i get ndiswrapper?04:15
elcuCB201: out of interest, does zsnes work well for you?  i get really slow framerates using any of the OGL modes.04:15
elcucould it be because i'04:15
vanQI made a big decision :  I am downloading  Ubuntu Live CD at the moment...04:15
vanQ:)04:15
elcui'm not running in 16bit?04:15
vanQI'm quite happy now ... I've tested only Knoppix with KDE in the past and didn't like it, because it looked too complicated for me04:16
CB201elcu: that's probably the problem, zsnes works fine for me04:16
vanQHopefully Ubuntu with Gnome is alot more simple04:16
jintxo_DanglyBits, I don't know. they have an rpm on their site. you could probably convert it with alien and install it (limewire requires java installed though). That's what I did last time I installed it.04:16
CB201elcu: you might have better luck with snes9x anyway04:16
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elcuCB201: yeah, i can't exactly change my bitdepth on the fly with the fglrx driver.04:17
CB201DanglyBits: I actually just installed Limewire on ubuntu yesterday.  maybe I could help?04:17
jintxo_DanglyBits, alien is a program that takes an rpm file and converts it to a .deb so you can install it using dpkg04:17
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DanglyBitsCB201:is that what u did?04:18
acidburnHey guys...04:18
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CB201DanglyBits: yes. download the *.RPM file from their site, then run alien04:18
acidburnI am trying to install programs on root on Ubuntu, but it won't let me, because I don't have administrator's access. No one does on my computer, because that is disabled by default. How can I enable it?04:19
CB201DanglyBits: I think you might need the -i argument to install it as well as change it to a *.deb file04:19
jintxo_CB201, for thing to recompile xmame is to have the compiler installed (apt-get install build-essentials) and then download their source package, read the README, which tells you what file to edit to your liking and then run "make". that's the gist of it.04:19
jazondave__, see the private message i sent you04:19
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CB201jintxo_: okay...I'll give it a shot04:20
CB201jintxo_: is the compiler already installed with ubuntu?04:20
boniatohi, i did all the steps required to restore grub in the hd0, but nothing works: when the computer attempts to access to the MBR, appears the message, "LI", and then stops04:21
jintxo_CB201, build-esentials is a package that gives you the nasic stuff for compiling04:21
boniatowhat i did bad?04:21
jintxo_s/nasic/basic04:21
astro76acidburn: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:21
kev0rGot problem with my proftpd, seems i cannot accept transfers from someone, he keeps getting 425 erro04:21
kev0rno route to host04:21
hualunitik: If I resize my patition, the mbr must be change? thanks.04:22
vanQExcuse me04:22
vanQI forgot what was the thing you had to do when you put in the cd to change the "language"04:22
vanQI mean I live in Finland and I remember that it was something like "lang=fi" or something (keyboard...)04:22
vanQCan someone help me? =(04:22
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vanQUbuntu Live CD is the subject04:22
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boniato i did all the steps required to restore grub in the hd0, but nothing works: when the computer attempts to access to the MBR, appears the message, "LI", and then stops. What i did bad?04:23
CB201jintxo_: okay...sorry for newbie questions, I'm pretty new to Linux and I've never actually compiled anything from source before04:23
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jintxo_CB201, that's fine. I earned a lot trying to compile xmame when I was new to linux. :-)04:23
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jintxo_learned (I wish I would have earned, hehe)04:23
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vanQheh =)04:24
DanglyBitsCB201:am i going to need java?  if so which flavour?04:24
CB201DanglyBits: yes, you will need java04:24
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tsume_nobody _needs_ java :)04:25
CB201DanglyBits: I found a great Ubuntu HOWTO for it the other day, hang on one second04:25
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huaklaas: How do you give me the boot floppy? Is a img or something else?04:25
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SeamusLPCB201:  I think I had to install the official and then set up some symlinks in /usr/bin/04:25
CB201DanglyBits: have you added multiverse to your repositories?04:25
vnpenguinhi there, just installed 5.04. The installer never asked me for root password. So now I cant su to root :( Help !04:25
astro76vnpenguin: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:25
klaasI'm creating an image for you.04:26
Xappevnpenguin: use sudo instead, there is no root account in ubuntu04:26
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jintxo_http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre04:26
tsume_I guess the largest problem with ubuntu are the confusing new comers about no root :)04:26
vanQhmm04:26
vanQThat's odd...04:26
vanQno root? :O04:26
mishofHow come -> apt-get install mplayer doesnt work ...04:26
tsume_vanQ: no root :) more secure ;)04:27
vanQI know what root means, but that's quite confusing...04:27
vnpenguinXappe: so all "root" operations should be used by "sudo command ..." ?04:27
vanQumm... but how can you do some big chances if you can't get the root status?04:27
tsume_vanQ: you use a priveledged program named sudo04:27
mercurusmishof, mplayer isn't part of the core distribution ... it is legally dubious ... so you need to enable the Marrilat repository04:27
mercurussee the FAQ, RestrictedFormats04:27
upsvanQ: remember, sudo does the job of root ;)04:27
Xappevnpenguin: yes04:27
dcravenvanQ, there is root. There is always root. That account is just disabled by default so that I can't ssh into your box and use it.04:27
vnpenguinXappe: thnx04:27
Aboodhi all, guys i had just installed the fresh copy of ubuntu on my machine and its installed succsesfully but i have error when i enter the graphical it gives me an error and when i type crtl + alt + f1 its goes well in the shell ?!?!04:27
tbirdapt-get install mplayer-38604:28
mishofmercurus, i did, i get this: The following packages have unmet dependencies:04:28
mishof  mplayer-nogui: Depends: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is to be installed04:28
Xappevnpenguin: you can get a root shell by using sudo -s04:28
SeamusLPdcraven:  If that were the reason you could always disable root logins on ssh :P04:28
vnpenguinXappe: thnx again for this info :)04:28
tsume_dcraven: no,... you shouldn't be able to ssh to root in the first place, the root login is disabled by sshd 99.9% of the time04:28
CB201I think I'm gonna compile with gcc04:28
CB201hm04:28
tbirdmishof, sudo  apt-get install mplayer-38604:28
dcravenAlright, alright... I'm trying to help here.. hehe04:28
mercurusmishof, interesting ... sounds like the repository version has dependencies Ubuntu can't provide ...04:28
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tsume_dcraven: excluding linux distros which have morons behind the developer helms like rh and suse04:29
mercurusWarty or Hoary ?04:29
mishoftbird, same results04:29
jintxo_Abood, you need to reconfigure you're X windows server. there is a command, I tjhink it's "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg". run it from the console shell04:29
Aboodhi all, guys i had just installed the fresh copy of ubuntu on my machine and its installed succsesfully but i have error when i enter the graphical it gives me an error and when i type crtl + alt + f1 its goes well in the shell ?!?! any idea or help plzzzz04:29
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DanglyBitsCB201:noobie too...how do i do that?04:29
tsume_dcraven: *bsd have rootlogin in sshd disabled by default, but there is root04:29
huadcraven: you mean you can touch my box via ssh.04:29
Mannyhi04:29
Mannydo you know of any netinst-like ubuntu image?04:29
vanQmercurus, isn't the newer version always better? :O  So I'd say Hoary  (don't listen to me, I don't know nothing about Linux...)04:29
CB201DanglyBits: hmm...hang on04:29
MannyI mean a stripped-down version, like it is available for debian04:29
tsume_openbsd is the mothering OSopenssh ;)04:29
dcravenOh geez.. Can of worms. I should just shush.04:29
Aboodjintxo: sure i did it man and also not working :S i tried all the resolutions and same thing :(04:29
lunitikManny: you can use Debians sarge image, and point it at the Ubuntu archives04:30
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dcravenhua, no I can't. Don't worry.04:30
lunitikManny: they use the same installer  :/04:30
darkstaryes04:30
jintxo_Abood, dang. what kind of video card you got?04:30
Mannynice04:30
CB201DanglyBits: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:30
tbirdif i wont to get rig of gnome can i just dpkg -r ubuntu-desktop ?04:30
frank__I want to copy my whole filesystem / to another partition and boot for there. How do I copy everything?04:30
lunitikManny: www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer I think04:31
tbirdi have kubuntu-desktop already04:31
CB201DanglyBits: to that file, add the following two lines:04:31
darkstarwell?04:31
CB201DanglyBits: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse04:31
Aboodjintxo: dude its built in with Dell dimension 2400, its intel 82845G /GE/GL/PE/GV04:31
CB201DanglyBits: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse04:31
CB201then save the file04:31
Mannylunitik: I know, thanks04:32
CB201and execute sudo apt-get update04:32
hualunitik: I have try install ubuntu after install sarge basesystem. but she told me gpg key error.04:32
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SeamusLPhua:  You have a firewall up?04:32
MannyI'm trying to create a ppc/pegasos-compatible mkvmlinuz'ed kernel image04:32
jintxo_Abood, have you tried using it as a standard VESA card? you won't get 3d, but vesa works on a lot of cards04:32
lunitikhua: just apt-get update  :/04:32
lunitikhua: it is fetched during that process with apt 0.6.x04:33
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factotumwould editing a new apt.sources file to match hoary, and moving my debian sarge apt.source file to source.old and doing an apt-get dist-upgrade, could that succesfully upgrade me from debian sarge to ubuntu hoary?04:33
Aboodjintxo, no i didnt, i will now but on what resolution i can test it ?, i mean what is the best resolution04:33
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lunitikfactotum: yes04:33
SeamusLPfactotum:  I think people have done that before04:33
factotumlunitik: thanks, i thought i heard about that too, thought i would give it a shot04:34
lunitikfactotum: you'd have to configure /etc/sudoers ... and I'd recommend installing 'ubuntu-base' and 'ubuntu-desktop' though04:34
vanQCan someone please help me? When my Ubuntu Live CD download completes, I will burn it to a CD... then when I will play it ... what was the command line I must write in order to make the system understand I'm using a finnish keyboard?04:34
jintxo_Abood, start at 640x480 and then go up from there04:34
vanQit was something like   lang=fi    or something04:34
dcravenfactotum, I did just that, but from sid.04:34
jintxo_gg04:34
factotumI have about a 25 minute wait to find out :P04:34
dcravenfactotum, I'd upgrade to sid first.04:34
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lunitikfactotum: :)  ... Ubuntu's gksu is patched to use sudo though... so yeah...04:35
vnpenguinwhen do startx, I got error "/usr/bin/X11/X No such file ..." ?04:35
factotumalright04:35
Aboodjintxo_, i will try it and i wish to get works brb to switch os's04:35
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huaSeamusLP: glad to see you. what's you mean?04:36
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SeamusLPhua:  Don't worry about it, I was just curious04:36
lunitikvnpenguin: hmm... 'sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core'04:37
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lunitikvnpenguin: there is no logical reason that isn't there if that package is installed04:37
vnpenguinlunitik: thnx, will try it now ;)04:37
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CB201Danglybits? you there?04:37
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SeamusLPvnpenguin:  If it's still not working after that just do /etc/init.d/gdm restart04:37
lunitikvnpenguin: you'd have to have removed something for that not to be there... it is installed by default04:38
lunitikSeamusLP: the startx process and the gdm init script are pretty simular  :/04:38
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Shuflahello :)04:38
ogbCC04:38
SeamusLPlunitik:  Not exactly.  I have problems with xauth using startx...04:38
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cnez0redmoo04:40
lunitikSeamusLP: $EDITOR /usr/bin/X11/startx  :/04:40
lunitik(it is a bash script)04:40
SeamusLPyeah04:40
jazonqueuetue, guess what04:40
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Zizzencshi! i have some trouble with kdm. all i want to do is to set a plain black background, but i have no success :/ i go administrator, set the wallpaper to one color black and it still uses the picture i do not want04:41
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cnez0redHey is there an equivelant to glx-gears in ubuntu? I'm not sure my nvidia drivers are configured properly. I keep getting system bottlenecks.04:41
lunitikZizzencs: Kubuntu? #kubuntu ... but it is part of the theme, not the actual background04:41
cnez0redJust opened up my 'putr to make sure the CPU fan hadn't burnt out. That's how serious it's getting.04:41
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lunitikcnez0red: I check such things ~once a month, and clean it etc... if you love your computer, it'll love you back  :P04:42
Zizzencslunitik: nah, plain ubuntu with kde apt-get installed. whad do you mean about that background and theme thing?04:43
dcravencens0red, glxgears is the Ubuntu equiv to glxgears.04:43
jazonqueuetue, I was able to convert the filesystem using cfdisk then t option then write04:43
zxc_Can ubuntu install .rpm files?04:43
zxc_I want to install gimpshop04:43
CB201zxc_ yes04:43
lunitikZizzencs: eh... KDM is now capable of having themes simular to GDM themes (not just a login widget)04:43
CB201zxc_ use alien04:43
Zizzencszxc_: try alien, or you can install rpm04:43
Zizzencszxc_: no success guaranteed04:43
dripchiphi anyone here have vmware installed under ubuntu ?04:44
lunitikZizzencs: Kubuntu takes advantage of that by default... has a 'Kubuntu' theme04:44
cnez0red4714 frames in 5.0 seconds = 942.800 FPS04:44
cnez0redis that ok?04:44
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Zizzencslunitik: then i think i have to find or create a plain black theme :-p04:44
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lunitikZizzencs: rpm is installed by defualt due to lsb packages04:45
cnez0reddcraven thanks btw.04:45
Zizzencslunitik: i see. never used that feature though :-p04:45
dripchipcnez0red -> i get 2900 fps with amd64 3500+ and gf 570004:45
Xappecnez0red: 8767 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1753.400 FPS04:45
Xappe with my ATI radeon 9600 pro04:45
dcravencnez0red, np.04:45
lunitikZizzencs: apt-cache show alien ... rpm is a dep  ;)04:45
lunitik(lsb-core depends alien)04:46
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cnez0reddripchip and Xappe ok. Is that poor enough that I should be getting system bottlenecks?04:46
Zizzencslunitik: only lsb-release and lsb-base are a must. lsb and lsb-rpm is not installed by default on my system04:46
elcuXappe: weird, i get 5440 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1088.000 FPS on my 9600pro04:46
elcui do have a ****load of apps open though.04:47
jazonthanks to everyone for their help :)04:47
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lunitikZizzencs: fresh Ubuntu here, lsb-core is installed04:47
lunitikZizzencs: dpkg -l lsb-core04:48
Xappeelcu: maybe number of proc:s and the cpu matters?04:48
Zizzencslunitik: it is not installed on my system.04:48
lunitikZizzencs: strange04:48
elcuP4 2.4ghz.  I am using an old mb though, so only get agp4x.04:48
Zizzencslunitik: more interesting: E: Package lsb-core has no installation candidate04:49
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Zizzencslunitik: Package lsb-core is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:49
spiralhi04:49
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lunitikZizzencs: heh... I'm running breezy...04:49
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lunitikZizzencs: ubuntu-desktop depends lsb which depends lsb-core, lsb-graphics, lsb-cxx04:50
Zizzencslunitik: i have this line on sources.list: deb http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted04:50
Zizzencslunitik: that seems ok to me.04:50
Xappeelcu: athlonXP 2500+ barton, agp 8x :)04:50
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lunitikZizzencs: that is the current stable... I'm running the current devel branch04:50
Zizzencslunitik: ahh, i see04:51
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darkaudithmm... shut down powernowd, but clock is still gaining time...04:51
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Zizzencslunitik: i wanted to look for instructions on how to upgrade to devel but was too lasy :-p04:51
lunitikZizzencs: in hoary, iir, ubuntu-desktop depended rpm directly though04:51
vanQAnyone here have the Live CD for Ubuntu Linux?04:52
lunitikZizzencs: just change hoary to breezy ... but I wouldn't recommend you do it for at least 4 months04:52
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elcuXappe: still, it shouldn't be that much lower.  does your CPU go to 100%04:52
ResonantI've already switched to breezy.04:52
ResonantI'm <3'ing it.04:52
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ResonantThen again USB-Storage is broken.04:52
lunitikResonant: same here... but most would freak about any of the small issues...04:52
ResonantYea.04:52
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vanQI found out that the keyboard language setup is this in Knoppix, when you boot from CD :   knoppix lang=fi    what is the start in ubuntu ?   Is it    "ubuntu lang=fi"  without the quote-marks04:52
vanQ?04:52
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Zizzencslunitik: i'm not afraid of developement software :-p is there a homepage wit ha comprihensive changelog?04:52
Resonant"zomg aol doesn't wurk? OLOLZ"04:53
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SeamusLPHey has anyone noticed that gnome is a little crashy?  gnome-panel and nautilus to be specific04:53
ResonantI haven't.04:53
AmaranthZizzencs: The breezy-changes mailing list is probably what you're looking for.04:53
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ZizzencsAmaranth: tnx04:53
AmaranthSeamusLP: nautilus is 400k lines of undebuggable crap. :P04:53
Xappeelcu: yes04:53
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SeamusLPAmaranth:  I take it you've tried? heh04:53
lunitikZizzencs: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/breezy-changes/2005-April/thread.html04:54
AmaranthSeamusLP: I've watched other try and fail and bitch and moan. I'm scared to look.04:54
huaSeamusLP: I see.04:54
prometheHow I can manualy edit GNOME menu?04:54
prometheWithout using menueditr04:54
lunitikZizzencs: it only opened like 2-3 days ago... so thats all so far04:54
Amaranthpromethe: What's wrong with my menu editor? :)04:54
zxc_how do I change the gdm and splash?04:54
prometheAmaranth it doesn't support another languages than english04:55
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Amaranthpromethe: It should....04:55
prometheAmaranth good piece of software, but it doesn't support polish04:55
SeamusLPAmaranth:  It's a good file manager, they just need to stop tacking on crap to it and fix the damn bugs04:55
lunitikAmaranth: still don't get why you did it with gnome-menu-editor being around... but I guess that is your parogative  ;)04:55
AmaranthWell, it has issues with adding new things to non-english menus.04:55
Zizzencslunitik: yep i found that one. too verbose for me though. i will only upgrade when there is something i want to try out i think04:55
Amaranthlunitik: gnome-menu-editor was pre-0.1 and buggy as hell when I started.04:55
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lupusBEanyone here using anjuta 2 ?04:55
Amaranthlunitik: The only thing they have over me now is drag-and-drop support, otherwise I think I have more features.04:55
lunitikAmaranth: you should have gotten involved with that...04:56
prometheWhen i'm trying to add something to e.g. cattegory "Dwik i obraz" (sound and Video) it creates independent category in menu04:56
prometheIt's very iritating04:56
prometheAnd menueditor don't show anything04:56
promethewrong04:56
Amaranthlunitik: I'm not very good with C and they're trying to get libmenu patched to support editting, which seems to be an uphill battle.04:56
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lunitikZizzencs: for me, OpenOffice.org2 and Evince being around by default (thus keeping my system clean) is reason enough04:56
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prometheso, any way to do this mannualy?04:57
Amaranthpromethe: Yeah, I actually think that's a gnome-menus bug.04:57
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Amaranthpromethe: Sure, the easiest way would probably be to look at another .desktop file and modify a copy of it to be what you want.04:57
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Zizzencslunitik: i have no need on either one. and though that ooo2 is in stable, too.04:58
elcuis anyone else not able to play certain DVDs?  i can't get totem to play boogie nights.04:58
AmaranthYou can find .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ and you want to save yours in ~/.local/share/applications/04:58
lunitikZizzencs: ubuntu-desktop in hoary still depends openoffice.org though... so that would be a pita04:58
SeamusLPelcu:  You have libdvdcss?04:58
lunitikIrritates the heck out of me to have 2 versions of the same thing installed... and OpenOffice is HUGE!!04:58
Amaranthlunitik: You can remove ubuntu-desktop.04:58
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Amaranthlunitik: It's just a meta-package, it doesn't actually provide anything of it's own.04:59
elcuSeamusLP: yep, i can play other ones fine.  just not boogie nights.  the video also has these weird lines whenever there is rapid movement.04:59
lunitikAmaranth: running an Ubuntu devel branch, you'd have to be a moron to do so  ;)04:59
Zizzencslunitik: i see. the good thing is i don't use ubuntu-desktop :-) i usually buid my systems on my own. choose a proper font, etc.04:59
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Amaranthlunitik: Why?04:59
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SeamusLPelcu:  Perhaps you should try a different player?05:00
lunitikAmaranth: keeps things cleaner...05:00
Amaranthlunitik: Only if they add new things to ubuntu-desktop...05:00
elcuSeamusLP: i'll try that.  any recommendation?05:00
SeamusLPelcu:  It probably won't do the same thing in ogle05:00
Amaranthlunitik: New as in actually not there before, not upgrades.05:00
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lunitikAmaranth: things change a lot in devel branches... ubuntu-desktop makes it easier to track such things05:00
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Amaranthlunitik: Packages still upgrade just fine without it installed.05:01
shawnhHI05:01
elcuSeamusLP: thanks, i'll check that out05:01
prometheWhat the helll...05:01
shawnh HOW IS EVERYTHIBNG OGING IN HERE05:01
flying:)05:01
prometheDeleted, added, it still creating new category05:01
shawnhwhat in the hel bobby05:01
Amaranthlunitik: run apt-get ubuntu-desktop once a week to see if they made it depend on anything new, cancel the install, and get it05:01
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elcumeh, i should know this, but do p4s have mmx support?05:01
prometheAmaranth is there any file with gnome menu config?05:01
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Amaranthpromethe: You need to delete ~/.config/menus/applications.menu05:01
flodinewhats the name of the firewall ubuntu uses05:02
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lunitikAmaranth: bah... if that works for you, go ahead... I use debfoster... and tracking 200 things in there is a pita05:02
Amaranthlunitik: Hehe, I don't worry about orphaned packages. I've got more HD space then I know what to do with.05:02
lunitikAmaranth: without debfoster... I got hit hard by the python transition... debfoster made it easier  :/05:02
shawnhhow old are youpeople05:03
Amaranthshawnh: 1805:03
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Zizzencsshawnh: 2305:03
Amaranthlunitik: Really? I'm a Python programmer and I still didn't have any problems.05:03
jordanaushawnh, 2005:03
lunitikAmaranth: as do I... but still... I'm peticular about such things05:03
shawnhI turn 30 next friday05:03
jordanaushawnh, the big 3-005:03
Zizzencswhy is this debfoster thing useful?05:03
lunitikAmaranth: transition from 2.3 -> 2.4 was annoying05:03
Zizzencsnever used before05:03
shawnhany females05:03
^thehatsrule^lol05:03
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Bloody|RLCACTION is away:  05:03
shawnhfoster eh05:03
Amaranthlunitik: I hardly noticed.05:03
lunitikshawnh: 2105:03
AmaranthBloody|RLC: Turn that off.05:03
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^thehatsrule^rofl05:04
Ntr_hello ppl, is here anobody who can tell what's the problem with /etc/enviroment & finnish-keymap & irc ?05:04
Zizzencsshawnh: look at channel #sex for pretty girls :-p05:04
shawnhhehhe05:04
lunitikAmaranth: you were running the devel branch when 2.4 came in?05:04
shawnhhehhe05:04
Amaranthlunitik: Yep.05:04
flodinewhats the name of the firewall ubuntu uses help05:04
jordanau\join #sex05:04
jordanaukj05:04
shawnh trying to stay away from that dirty cyber sex05:04
jordanaujk05:04
shawnhlol05:04
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shawnh don;t  know what it is05:04
shawnh growin more05:04
Amaranthlunitik: I had exactly one app (bittorent) stop working for 3 days because of it, otherwise it was smooth.05:04
shawnh like the real thing05:04
AmaranthBloody|RLC: Turn off your away script.05:05
lunitikAmaranth: ahh... I got a lot of dependency issues... amoungst other things05:05
Amaranthlunitik: I blame ubuntu-desktop. ;)05:05
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danthemani just plugged in my ipod and it didn't mount05:05
danthemancan someone tell me how to do it?05:05
lunitikAmaranth: ubuntu-desktop didn't depend 2.3 packages05:05
lunitikthey were just still around05:05
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lunitikAmaranth: hence, debfoster clearing them out05:06
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Amaranthlunitik: You cleared them out and that broke things?05:06
Amaranthlunitik: If so, PEBKAC.05:06
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lunitikAmaranth: no... clearing them out got rid of dependency issues05:06
AmaranthOh.05:06
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AmaranthI actually still have all those python 2.3 things installed.05:06
elcuflodine: don't think there is one installed by default.  but firestarter is recommended in the ubuntu giude.05:07
robl^does anyone know wher eI can get current ubuntu-friendly mono1.1.6 pkgs?05:07
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lunitikrobl^: it is in Universe05:07
AmaranthI keep telling myself I'm going to make PyMusique work on 2.3 (I think it might already) but I never do it.05:07
Amaranthrobl^: You can't.05:07
jazonl8r peeps - thanks!05:07
robl^lunitik, universe has an old version.05:07
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lunitikAmaranth: why would you bother? 2.3 is old now  :/05:07
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Amaranthlunitik: Because people email me and bitch.05:07
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LevanderWhat's the name of the X-Windows application used to adjust the position of my screen on my monitor?  Adjust it left and right, up and down.  I don't want to use the monitor controls, because I share this monitor via KVM switch with an XP box.05:08
lunitikAmaranth: everyone that bitches at me via e-mail gets added to various spam lists05:08
AmaranthUbuntu has Mono 1.0.5 in breezy, I think hoary had 1.0.4. Debian experimental has 1.1.6 iirc so expect Ubuntu to get them.05:08
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danthemancan anyone tell me why gtkpod might not detect my ipod?05:08
yahalomcan someone tell me why my ubuntu doesnt have an /etc/X11/Sessions file???05:08
danthemani plugged it in, and it gets mounted05:08
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danthemanbut when i hit sync in gtkpod, it says it needs the ipod directory structure05:09
Amaranthyahalom: You mean /etc/X11/Xsession?05:09
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yahalomAmaranth, is that it? is that where i can see my gnone and xfce?05:10
lunitikdantheman: try using Rhythmbox.. it apparently can access ipod's ... never used it though05:11
Amaranthyahalom: What do you want to do with them? gdm will let you choose which one to load.05:11
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elcuSeamusLP: sweet! ogle can play it.05:11
elcuSeamusLP: what an ugly interface though.05:12
yahalomAmaranth, i have xfce twice in my gdm and i want to see that enlightenment is in my sessions05:12
SeamusLPelcu:  Yeah tha'ts the downside05:12
SeamusLPelcu:  Totem works for most DVDs but sometimes you just need an app that was designed to play dvds05:12
elcuSeamusLP: got ya.  what about xine and mplayer?05:13
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CheeseBalldoes anyone know where the ubuntu kernel is located05:13
SeamusLPelcu:  I'm using Totem with a xine backend, never mess with mplayer.05:13
lunitikelcu: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats tells you how to add DVD support to totem I believe05:13
lunitikhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:14
SeamusLPlunitik:  He was having trouble with one DVD, not support in general05:14
elculunitik: i already have got that sorted.  totem jsut doesn't seem to play this certain DVD.05:14
elcuSeamusLP: hmmm, how can i make the picture fill the whole screen in full screen mode?05:14
lunitikelcu: ahhh... heh05:15
lunitikSeamusLP: I should follow along once in a while  :P05:15
SeamusLPelcu:  It's in full screen mode but it's not using the full screen?05:15
elcuSeamusLP: exactly05:15
elculunitik: i love playind DVDs in linux though.  no region restrictions with my supposed region-enforced drive. =)05:16
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Amaranthxine, gstreamer, vlc, and mplayer all use the same libs for playing DVDs05:16
Amaranthelcu: Yeah, the software controls region lockout, not the drive.05:16
elcuSeamusLP: it's like i'm looking through a window in the middle of the screen.05:17
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LevanderNobody remembers the name of the X-Windows application to move the screen's position left or right or up and down on the monitory?05:17
eazel7hi ppl05:17
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eazel7I've just installed hoary, but the gnome app bar and lots of other things doesn't appear translated05:17
AmaranthLevander: We call those monitor controls. :) Should have buttons or a little wheel on the front of your monitor.05:17
CheeseBalldoes anyone know where the ubuntu kernel is located05:17
elcuAmaranth: i always thought there was two ways, h/ware *and* s/ware.05:17
eazel7why?05:17
eazel7CheeseBall, in /boot05:18
CheeseBallthanks05:18
AmaranthCheeseBall: If you don't know where it is you probably shouldn't be messing with it.05:18
SeamusLPelcu:  It seems like I have that problem when i try to play widescreen dvds05:18
ObsidiansWhen I try to burn a cd, it says "system too slow" or something. What's wrong?05:18
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elcuSeamusLP: you haven't sorted it out?05:18
LevanderAmaranth: don't want to use monitor controls, I share this monitor with XP via a KVM switch, using the monitor controls will mess up where XP displays its screen05:18
LevanderThere's an X-Windows program to do it, I just can't remember the name.05:18
csturmxvidtune05:18
zenroxyep xvidtune05:19
AmaranthLevander: Then set the resolution and refresh rate to be the same on both. If that doesn't make them the same your driver sucks on one platform or the other.05:19
Levandercsturm: that's it!  will xvidtune modify my X windows configuration for me?  After I've decided on a position?05:19
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SeamusLPelcu:  Well I have a widescreen monitor, it doesn't like to use the entire screen on that one.  It does a lot better on my fullscreen monitor.05:19
csturmlevander: i dont think so, i think you need to edit the modelines in xorg.conf05:19
SeamusLPelcu:  Only happens with widescreen dvds.  I think I can rip it to xvid format and view it perfectly, though.05:20
Amaranth"THE INCORRECT USE OF THIS PROGRAM CAN DO PERMANENT DAMAGE TO YOUR MONITOR AND/OR VIDEO CARD" <--xvidtune seems real nice....05:20
Levandercsturm: I'm still running Warty and XFree, I suppose the configuration is the same?05:20
csturmyeah, just different filename05:20
LevanderOkay, gonna try it! Thanks csturm!05:20
AmaranthI'm guessing xvidtune tweaks refresh rates like the ati tool did for windows. Could be dangerous.05:20
Levandergotta log off to test something with my IRC client GAIM they told me about in #gaim, but thanks a lot guys!05:21
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csturmcu05:21
elcuSeamusLP: seems it's supposed to be that way: http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/faq.shtml (see no. 35)05:21
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LevanderAmaranth: so is configuring X-Windows in general....05:21
CheeseBallhahaha Amaranth05:22
AmaranthYeah, it's just tweaking hsync and vsync.05:22
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CheeseBallim just trying to make a restore cd05:22
SeamusLPelcu:  Well I have the issue with totem-xine as well05:22
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CheeseBalland it asks for the location05:22
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CheeseBallim using mkcd for a restore cd, any other easy one reccommended?05:23
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tiggggranyone else using rhythmbox as their music player?05:24
credmptiggggr, sure05:25
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tiggggrcredmp, do you have smooth transitions between tracks?05:25
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credmptiggggr, define smooth :)05:26
credmplike cross fading?05:26
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MangoFusionanyone here have an experience with midi setup in ubuntu?05:26
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tiggggrcredmp, yeah well not necessarily smooth as in faded, but do you get this "silent -> 0.5s bit of strange noise -> new track starts" sort of thingie? :P05:27
credmpI have no strange noise05:27
credmpjust track end -> silence switching to new song -> new song05:28
tiggggrit goes to silent first, and then it plays just a bit from the end of last track, as it would flush buffer or something05:28
tiggggrcould be my ancient cpu tho :P05:28
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credmptiggggr, which rhythmbox do y ou use... the standard one?05:28
credmprhythmbox-gstreamer05:29
credmp?05:29
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tiggggrcredmp, 0.8.8 that came with ubuntu hoary..so i suppose its standard05:29
credmpstrange... probably something to do with the buffering indeed05:29
credmphave it with other players as well?05:29
tiggggrnope, xmms works fine05:30
markumansome gamers here? ubuntu-gamers meeting - #ubuntu-gaming ;-)05:30
credmpand if you queue 2 files in totem?05:30
tiggggrcredmp, hmm, i'll try that totem, sec05:30
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tiggggrcredmp, works fine with totem05:32
credmpthats also gstreamer05:32
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credmpso likely just an issue w/rhythmbox05:32
tiggggri tried to look for buffer settings in rhythmbox but either they are hidden evry well or i'm blind05:32
promethe_What i should install to make my ubuntu support iPAQ05:32
tiggggrcredmp, yep, guess so..too bad, i like the itunes media library ripoff ;)05:32
credmptiggggr, hehe... yea.... though amarok (KDE based) is also quite nice05:33
credmppromethe_, did you look on the ubuntu wiki? probably has some info about it05:33
lupusBEis there someone using breezy?05:34
tiggggrcredmp, cool, i'll check it out05:34
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nicolehallo..ich bin neu hier (und bei ubuntu) ich hab da mal ne frage05:35
nicolebei mir funktioniert das "at" zeichen nicht auf der tastatur..was kann ich da tun?05:35
credmpnicole, in english please?05:35
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nicolesry..kann kein english:(05:36
nicolemom i'll try.05:36
^thehatsrule^nicole: babelfish.altavista.com05:36
smouchenicole, try your best05:36
nicolei have no "at" on my keyboar under ubuntu05:36
busfahrernicole, have you tried pressing SHIFT+2?05:36
dcahrakosok, I got passed booting the cd using acpi=off, and it does its thing, then it ejects the cd at the end, and reboots, then when it starts up, it does somethings, and when it gets to Starting Hotplug Subsystem it seems to hang.....and doesnt do anything at all..why?05:37
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^thehatsrule^oh, keyboard layout is not US05:37
nicole^^05:37
nicoleshift 2 -> "05:37
Alfred1881is anyone having problems with (k)ubuntu, does it run slow or are there crashes ???05:37
^thehatsrule^nicole: what keybaord layout do you have?05:37
credmpnicole: press System -> Preferences -> Keyboard05:37
credmpand change the setting05:38
promethe_Mowi to ktos po polsku? (sorry :))05:38
Alfred1881is anyone having problems with (k)ubuntu, does it run slow or are there crashes ???05:38
unpersonI just upgraded from Warty to Hoardy using synaptic.  I have a few questions:  a) How do I know if my system is now using X.org at boot up?  b) Will there be some old X11 packages I can now remove?  c) Can I remove x-window-system-base?05:38
nicoleGeneric 105-key (Intl) PC vGerman05:38
credmpAlfred1881, asking the same question over and over will not help :)05:38
smoucheAlfred1881, for me, it runs fast, and there are sometimes crashes with the file browser.05:38
Alfred1881ok :)05:38
jaco^for me mplayer don't work05:39
nickrudnicole, could you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-common for us, and tell us the output05:39
^thehatsrule^unperson, you can either see the logs, also youre using Xorg if you see options for transparency05:39
jaco^and i love ubuntu with gnome05:39
jaco^kde is unstable for me05:39
credmpnicole, you can change it to a bunch of different layouts.... give em a try05:39
nicoleof course..one moment05:39
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nicolesudo dpkg-reconfigure console-common05:40
nicolenull symbol found05:40
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unperson^thehatsrule^:  You mean like look in /var/log/syslog?05:40
csturmwhoa. luminocity roks :)05:41
unperson^thehatsrule^:  Any idea what sort of string to look for?05:41
nickrudnicole: that's all it said??05:41
^thehatsrule^unperson: i know its in /var/log somewhere05:41
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nicoleLooking for keymap to install:05:41
nicoleNONE05:41
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nicoleand than what i said05:41
^thehatsrule^unperson, im not sure bout Xorg, but i guess... xorg.log ? hehe05:41
nicolenothing more05:41
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nickrudok, I need to look something up05:42
^thehatsrule^nicole: maybe download some off the net?05:42
nickrudwhile I05:42
nicolehow can i do that?05:42
Superfroghi ! is this  a channel where i can ask for ubuntu help ?05:42
nicoleoh mom..i'll try logitech internet keyboard05:42
nicolemust i restart than?05:43
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nickrud'm doing that that you can try credmp's advice, if you haven't05:43
dcahrakosanyone know why after initial install, it hangs at starting hotplug subsystem?05:43
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jordanauunperson, your xorg logs are /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:43
unperson^thehatsrule^:  Ah, /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:43
unpersonheh05:43
unpersonYup, it appears X.org is running.05:43
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jordanauunperson, i am pretty sure all hoary is on xorg05:44
nicoleahhh now..thx all...ALT+GR +Q works with logitech internet keyboard...TYA!05:44
unpersonjordanau:  Yeah, but I upgraded from Warty.  I was trying to figure out if it had made the switch.05:44
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Superfrogmy problem is to initialise the ati  9500 pro  in my horay 5.4(?)  i did the wiki with the universe driver , module is runinning,but it always tells me this mesa dirt05:45
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jordanauunperson, i see05:47
jordanauhow do you make mounted devices show up on the desktop?05:47
danthemanfor some reason, my ipod doesn't want to umount...did anyone else have the same problem, or know of a solution?05:48
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nickruddantheman, does it say the device is busy?05:50
danthemannickrud: yes05:51
danthemanand even when i can unmount it, the ipod still has the "Do not disconnect" on it05:51
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nickrudWhat that means is some file on the device is still open.05:52
unpersondantheman:  You're not still using anything (like a nautilus window) that's still reading it are you?05:52
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danthemannope, and i closed gtkpod05:52
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SysFailif anybody is using kcheckgmail please let me know if you would... It wont keep my password in the config and thus wont log in...anybody had this problem???05:53
unpersondantheman:  I've had a similar program.  That's some portion of gnome that keeps track of changes to directory contents.  Usually that's the trouble maker.05:53
nickrudyou can try killall nautilus: )05:53
danthemanunperson: did you manage to fix it?05:53
unpersondantheman:  There are two commands that can help:  fuser and lsio.  Check out the man pages.05:54
danthemanalright, thanks05:54
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dcahrakoswhat causes a hang at starting hotplug subsystem? I just got it to get past the initial install from the cd, but now it hand there05:54
unpersondantheman:  Those will at least tell you what is accessing the device.05:54
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nickrudProbably 90% of the busy problems are as unperson said.05:54
Tirnohello all. I've just installed hoary. All is fine (although wifi gives me trouble on occasion). Just one thing: after I boot the computer and login, half the time it freezes. I'm not sure what's happening (although I suspect it may have something to do with wifi)05:54
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unpersondantheman:  Sometimes I had to kill whatever that program was (I don't recall the name).05:55
danthemanwhen you unmounted it, did it still show the "Do not disconnect"?05:55
unpersondantheman:  Sometimes it seemed to take care of itself when I closed the nautilus window.05:55
unpersondantheman:  Sorry, I wasn't using an iPod.  Just a flash card.05:56
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danthemanoh, alright05:56
unpersondantheman:  So there was no such warning.05:56
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DocUbDoes some have a few mins to help me with the Mozilla FireFox 1.0.3 error on installing05:56
nickrudunperson: it used to be fam; now it's gamin.05:56
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DocUbsomeone*05:56
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DocUbgives a Fatal error on opening the xpistub05:57
unpersondantheman:  Yeah, the thing is that a program may start the monitor (yeah, what nickrud said).  The program is SUPPOSED to kill it when no longer necessary, but apparently some don't.05:57
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danthemanalright...i managed to unmount it, and it seems to work fine05:58
nickrudgamin seems to do this a lot less often, though05:58
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danthemannow i'll just see if i can mount it again and copy more music to it05:58
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Tirnoanyone? why does my ubuntu freeze just after login?05:59
AceManTirno: mine does that after the screensaver comes off05:59
nickrudTirno: when it freezes, does control alt backspace do anything?06:00
unpersonIs there any (relatively easy) way to see what packages I have installed from a particular repository?06:00
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dcahrakosdoes anyone know what causes a hang at starting hotplug subsystem? I just got it to get past the initial install from the cd, but now it hand there06:00
n3hello06:00
n3?06:00
nickrudunperson: grep-dctrl does that, I think.06:00
n3Question:06:01
n3I recently downloaded a movie called THE CODE: Linux06:01
Alfred1881hey , i want to install Opera in kubuntu , but do i need the Ubuntu-package or the Debian-package or source06:01
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n3It appears to have copyright on it at the end of the film and it seems to be recorded from TV06:01
ChoubakaAlfred1881: ?06:01
Tirnonickrud: I don't think so. I tried a number of ctrl-alt combinations. I'm on a laptop so the powerdown button works in an almost safe way06:01
Choubakajust download the .deb file from Opera's site.06:02
n3I cant seem to find the movie on amazon or anywhere for sale on DVD, is it illegal to use this video for educational purposes?06:02
Alfred1881but you can choose native06:02
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Choubakathe one which says "Other/debian" or something.06:02
nickrudTirno: what kind of laptop?06:02
Choubakaother (deb) rather.06:02
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promethe_can somebody help me with setting multisync and synce06:03
Tirnonickrud: acer travelmate 5000, intel centrino06:03
Alfred1881what is dynamic and static version ?06:03
n3Hello06:03
n3GTG06:03
n3can anyone help with this qustion?06:03
Choubakadynamic saves space (and ram in some cases)06:03
Choubakabut a static deb will work and not depend on anything.06:03
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LinuxJonesn3,  Search for the company that it is the copyright holder and check their website06:04
n3I Did06:04
n3Its in some other language06:04
n3Finnish or something06:04
Choubakahmm06:04
n3FINLAND06:04
Choubakashow me the site?06:04
LinuxJonesn3,  what's the website ?06:04
ChoubakaI'm finnish. :)06:04
n3Ok06:04
n3http://svt.se/06:04
n3cool!06:04
n3I really hope i can keep the download06:05
tiggggrsvt is swedish06:05
Choubakaahh, that's swedish.06:05
ChoubakaI know swedish a bit too06:05
Choubakalet's see.06:05
n3I also downloaded REVOLUTION OS but i guess this is illegal?06:05
nickrudtirno: to avoid some blind alleys, it boots up, gets to the ubuntu login screen, you log in, and it goes black?06:05
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n3I dont want piracy cops shooting me with machine guns06:05
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n3But you cant even buy these dvds in shops where i live06:06
n3(AFRICA)06:06
Tirnonickrud:  yes, exactly. The cute "yay isn't ubuntu cool-look how cute it is when gnome loads up"-rectangle doesn't show06:06
promethe_Huh, can somebody help me with setting multisync06:06
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unpersonn3:  Well, the bottom line is that it's illegal unless you have a valid license.  So like LinuxJones said, if it doesn't sa explictly that the rights are granted for reproduction, then you'd best check with the company's literature to see if it's legit.06:07
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n3hmm06:07
n3Their english section is down!06:07
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n3otherwise i need to destroy some cds06:07
n3Copy Right SUCKS06:07
Tirnonickrud: I've been trying a variety of things to get it to login properly. What may have done it this time is that I have a manual button which switches wireless on and off. I switched it off. Not sure whether that's the reason it started working though06:08
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n3why couldnt people just CREATIVE COMMONS everything in lower quality versions then if someone really liked it, when they had the money they could just buy it on dvd then06:08
LinuxJonesn3,  if it's for schooll or a Linux LUG meeting I don't think they would be upset with you using it. Most TV networks don't really care about older programming unless your selling/broadcasting it.06:09
nickrudTirno: If you have the time, try with it on/off a couple of times.06:09
EvilIdlerIn my country, it seems most educational programming on telly has a default license for school use06:09
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Amaranthn3: If you're somewhere in Africa your laws probably aren't the same as laws in the US.06:10
nickrudIf it's reproduceable, you should ask about this on ubunter-user mailling list.06:10
GhostNr1How do I point python to point to python 2.3.5 instead of 2.4.1. The force menu in sunaptic package manager is disabled06:10
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n3Is downloading REVOLUTION OS legal?06:10
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nickrudThey *like* hard problems :)06:11
AmaranthGhostNr1: 2.4 is required for hoary, what is breaking with 2.3?06:11
n3Yes its for school!06:11
tck_having changed sources to hoary to update&upgrade im still running warty06:11
n3Im trying to teach computers at a local school06:11
tck_The following packages have been kept back:06:11
tck_ etc.. and lists LOTS06:11
Tirnook nickrud, I'll do that later. At the moment I'm getting some work done - so I'm rather pleased with it actually running06:11
GhostNr1Amaranth > I need to install freevo and they only use 2.306:11
AmaranthGhostNr1: freevo?06:11
nickrud :)06:11
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GhostNr1Amaranth > freevo.sourceforge.net06:12
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Amaranthwow, cool06:12
danthemandoes anyone know what packages i need in order to play music in gtkpod?06:12
JCIEHi, how do i configure VNC from the desktop?06:12
GhostNr1Amaranth > maby I can get it to work via a source install. But it's depends on so many other programs so I whant it to work via the package manager06:12
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promethe_Huh, can somebody help me with setting multisync06:13
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LinuxJonesJCIE, vino-preferences06:13
nickrudpromethe_, I like those problems.06:14
KishuHi I am looking for the command to change owner of a directory/file?06:14
nickrudKishu: chmod06:14
tck_has anyone successfully upgraded from warty to hoary ?06:14
jordanauKishu, do you need further instructions?06:15
jordanautck_, yeah its easy06:15
AmaranthGhostNr1: hoary has python2.3, their installer sucks06:15
tck_jordanau, will i changed the sources and update&&upgrade etc..06:15
JCIELinuxJones, thanks!06:15
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LinuxJonesKishu, chown user:user /path/to/file you can use the -R to option to do full directories06:15
tck_it dl over 200mb and then i rebooted, still running warty - its held back LOTS of packages06:15
jordanautck_, yeah change sources from warty to hoary, update, dist-upgrade06:16
tck_ah dist-upgrade06:16
KishuThanks that was the command I was looking for I forgot it06:16
GhostNr1Amaranth > I have python2.3 installed. But freevo consist saying I must have <2.4 installed06:16
blueprismis there a website with a basic tutorial of ubuntu install so i dont have to install the ubuntu-desktop package06:16
blueprism?06:16
GhostNr1or it say 2.4 should be installed06:16
AmaranthGhostNr1: Then depend on the python2.3 package (which would be enough) but stupidly also depend on python (>= 2.3.5) and python (<< 2.4). File a bug report on their sf project page.06:16
jordanautck_, read the wiki on upgrading before you do it06:16
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nickrudblueprism: do you want to pick particular programs, or no desktop at all?06:17
GhostNr1Amaranth > So it's a bug in freevo then?06:17
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AmaranthGhostNr1: Yeah.06:17
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freddyitaliani!!!06:17
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GhostNr1Amaranth > thx for the help06:17
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AmaranthGhostNr1: I can help you get it installed still though. :)06:18
GhostNr1Well I have had it installed but via a source install but it break so I have reinstalled everything06:18
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GhostNr1And hoped I could get it to work via the package manager06:19
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jordanauis there a way to do a minimal ubuntu install?06:19
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GhostNr1Amaranth > I'm not used to package manager, I just switch from some year with slackware :D06:19
jordanaulike no X, less than 100 mb?06:19
jordanauor should i just use debian for something like that?06:19
tsume_jordanau: there is an option setting for the install06:20
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nickrudjordanau: the server install06:20
tsume_jordanau: its in plain view of the installer06:20
dcahrakosdoes anyone know what causes a hang at starting hotplug subsystem? I just got it to get past the initial install from the cd, but now it hand there06:20
tsume_jordanau: you use the regular cd06:20
jordanautsume_, great thanks06:20
blueprismnickrud well i want a xserver setup06:20
blueprismbut not with all that crap in that package06:20
blueprismhehe06:20
tsume_jordanau: I believe it says 'please type server' or somesuch06:21
tsume_jordanau: it will install the minimal amount of programs needed, and you can go with aptitude from there06:21
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jordanaugreat, i am going to make a digital picture frame this summer on an OLD laptop and wanted to stick to ubuntu if possible06:21
nickrudblueprism: ok, do a server install, then apt-get install x-window-system, and your favorite window manager.06:21
blueprismnickrud ah oki but i was wondering what if you want xorg instead?06:22
blueprismnot possible then ?06:22
nickrudblueprism: that will get xorg :)06:23
blueprismoh06:23
yurikognome_execute_async_with_env_fds: returning -106:23
yurikowhat does that mean?06:23
blueprismSorry then i come from a debian world06:24
AmaranthGhostNr1: I'm modifying the package for you.06:24
yurikognome is freezing uop for one user06:24
blueprismnickrud so i am used to that would install the old x1106:24
GhostNr1Amaranth > Thx06:24
nickrudblueprism: debian the last 4 years, and the skills do transfer :)06:24
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blueprismnickrud hehe i used it for aroudn 5 years but i am trying to get used to ubuntu06:24
blueprismcurrently trying to get it installed on my laptop06:24
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nickrudblueprism: yeah, there's some differences, but the tools are the same06:26
blueprismnickrud yeah just installed it last night06:26
blueprismbut im not used to use linux on laptops always did it on servers and firewall etc in many years06:26
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blueprismso that is sort of making a diff, but it should come ahand06:26
markumansome gamers here? ubuntu-gamers meeting - #ubuntu-gaming ;-)06:26
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AmaranthGhostNr1: Or not, I can't make it back into an archive that dpkg understands. :/06:28
jaxhi, is there a known fix for the debootstrap installation error ?06:28
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GhostNr1Amaranth > okej, :| Maby I should try to get it work with a source build then...06:28
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nickrudblueprism: Use what you're used to, but they've done a nice job on their desktop.06:29
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scottwhere do I get templates for the Create Document item in the gnome desktop menu?06:29
nickrudscott: you basically create your own and put them there.06:30
smoucheugh, that drove me nuts in gnome.06:31
scottdo I just create a blank document in AbiWord and save it as AbiWord.doc and where do I put it?06:31
dcahrakoscmon, doesnt anyone know what causes a hang at starting hotplug subsystem? I just got it to get past the initial install from the cd, but now it hand there06:31
thechitowncubsubuntu is on fire on distrowatch06:31
daveistis ubuntu faster than kubuntu?06:31
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smoucheeveryone's mileage varies with that, daveist06:31
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jazonhello again06:32
amiroffdaveist: the base is the same06:32
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kippihi06:33
amiroffdaveist: you can only judge by using both gnome and kde06:33
nickrudscott: yes to the first part of your question.06:33
jazonI don't know what i did, but my panel at the top of my screen is wrong now.  The Applications/Places/System is in the middle of the screen instead of on the left!  any soln for this?06:33
kippii am trying to install php and it is saying it can not download the file06:33
stevenjmy GF saw my ubuntu box and now she wants it....hopefully the transition will be smoothe06:33
smouchestuff on the panels tends to drift in gnome.06:33
thechitowncubshaha steven06:33
amiroffkippi: what are you trying to down and from where?06:33
daveistok, I have installed ubuntu, and I think its alot faster than SuSE 9.2 I used before.. I just wonder if it is gnome that makes it feel faster06:34
jazonsmouche, is there a way to fix it?06:34
amiroffdaveist: I don't think so, ubuntu just has mnimal services by default06:34
smoucheno, daveist, it's ubuntu!06:34
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kippisudo apt-get install php406:34
nickrudWhere to put it ...;06:34
smouchejazon, sorry, I don't know.  I switched to kubuntu.06:34
daveistvery nice distro then..06:35
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stevenjthe problem I see...is that some websites just do not print correctly in firebox....not sure if its the print drivers or firefox...HP 5150...anyone have any suggestion as far as printing from firefox06:35
jazonwhat is that??? a kde version?06:35
smouchejazon, yes06:35
jazonsmouche, is it better?06:36
nickrudscott: ~/Templates :)06:36
smouchelord, jazon!  That's a tricky question.06:36
smouchefor me, yes, for others no.  Question of preferences06:36
jazonsmouche, my bad - you are right.  I am running an HP m1080n, and I am having all kinds of 'fun' making all my hardware work with hoary (gnome)06:37
blueprismnickrud now i just gotta find a decent mirror where the package is06:37
blueprism;f06:37
kippiamiroff: I am using sudo apt-get install php406:37
smouchejazon, put it this way: ubuntu does the best gnome I've seen, kubuntu does the best kde I've seen06:37
amiroffkippi: that's correct06:37
jazonsmouche, are there advantages in terms of making ubuntu work with my hardware?06:37
amiroffsmouche: kde onkubuntu could be better though06:37
daveistHow do I get mp3 suppert in sound juice cd ripper, the help says something about a GStreamer lame plugin06:38
amiroffsmouche: just plain kde06:38
kippiamiroff, i get this Reading Package Lists... Done06:38
kippiBuilding Dependency Tree... Done06:38
kippiE: Couldn't find package php406:38
smouchejazon, I doubt it -- but for me, I had more "out of the box it just works" luck with kde than gnome...06:38
smouchebut again, everybody's mileage differs06:38
nickrudblueprism: try google ubuntu mirrors06:38
dcahrakoscmon, doesnt anyone know what causes a hang at starting hotplug subsystem? I just got it to get past the initial install from the cd, but now it hand there06:38
jaxhas anyone else has the Cannot retrive bsdutils error and managed to fix it ?06:38
Xebitxwhich irc client do you guys use?06:39
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KishuAnyone have any idea of why I can't change FAT32 paritions' owners?06:39
mercurusKishu, because FAT32 doesn't implement much in the way of access control06:39
Plexyshow do i import fonts from windows into linux?06:39
amiroffkippi: just fire up synatic and install from there06:39
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mercurusKishu: what you need to do, is set uid=1000,gid=1000 in fstab06:40
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sigPlexys: you don't have to06:40
jazonmy biggest problem is that my s-video out to my tv is scrambled.... I tried updating the drivers for my ati 300 pci-e but it gave overwrite errors so i did a force -all all to no avail06:40
mercurusKishu, so that when the fs is mounted, it mounts with ownership for your user06:40
amiroffPlexys: just copy fonts from windows to your /home/blah/.fonts dir06:40
nickrudKishu: vfat partitions do not support changing owners on the fly06:40
sigPlexys: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrafonts06:40
sigjust install them via apt-get06:40
amiroffsig: apt-get does not get tahoma :)06:41
nickrudKishu, i mean permissions in general, not just owner06:41
daveistsig> its a nice guide :-)06:41
stevenjanyone know a better print command than the default firefox print command?06:41
amiroffnickrud: permissions do not work on fat3206:41
kippiamiroff, ok thanks, that worked :D06:41
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amiroffkippi: anytime06:41
excelmatt@rarse:~ $ xmms06:41
excellibmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:41
excelInconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/generic/dl-tls.c: 72: _dl_next_tls_modid: Assertion `result <= _rtld_local._dl_tls_max_dtv_idx' failed!06:41
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excelany ideas what is wrong here?06:41
nickrudamiroff: true, except for the initial mount.06:41
stevenjshould I use gtklp for printing?06:42
amiroffyes, I mean user permissions06:42
Kishuis this correct? /dev/hda5       /mnt/win2       vfat    defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000        0       006:42
nickrudstevenj: I use gtklp probably 15 - 20 times a day.06:42
thechitowncubshey guys, what do I need to access my ubuntu hoary through windows via a vnc server06:42
mercurusKishu, yep looks good06:42
KishuOk thanks for the help I'm gonna reboot now06:43
mercurusnow run: sudo umount /mnt/win2 && sudo mount /mnt/win206:43
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mercurusreboot ? bloody hell.06:43
yurikocrud. I just can't figure out why gnome is frezzing up for one user06:43
daveistI think ubuntu is freaking fast.. something must be wrong :D06:43
amiroffthechitowncubs: just enavle remote access in gnome06:43
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Alfred1881hey all, is KDE 3.4 in Mandrake the same in Kubuntu ???06:43
amiroffthechitowncubs: and later use remote connection on windows06:44
Alfred1881are there small differences ???06:44
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thechitowncubsamiroff: how do I access it from windows?06:44
deFryskAlfred1881, kde in mandrake is crippled06:44
DoppelGangersee #windows06:44
amiroffAlfred1881: mandrake has only kde 3.3.206:44
tbirdAlfred1881, kde 3.4 in ubuntu06:44
GhostNr1Amaranth > still left? Can I change from hoary to something else. I needed to upgrade libc6 to get mplayer to work now allso :|06:44
amiroffthechitowncubs: you need a vnc viewer06:44
yurikoi think you can get 3.4 if you're a club memeber06:44
mercurusGhostNr1, how about using an older mplayer deb ?06:45
deFryskyuriko, then $$$ makes the difference in mdk06:45
tbirdlol club member06:45
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thechitowncubsis it possible to do it from a browser06:45
amiroffDoppelGanger: that guy does not deserve that answer06:45
GhostNr1mercurus > maby that a good way yes :)06:45
Alfred1881deFrysk crippled ?06:45
yurikoyes one reason why i switched06:45
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Plexysamiroff: when i copy the .ttf fonts from my windows partition, and try to copy them into 'fonts:///'  they do not appear06:45
deFryskAlfred1881, yes06:45
Alfred1881i did an upgrade06:45
stevenjnickrud, well when I print from firefox some web pages are "messed up" and I noticed I dont have gtklp installed...just wondering if this should make a difference06:45
unpersonDo all the marilliat packages come up as unauthenticated?06:46
Alfred1881but crashed few times in 2 days06:46
amiroffPlexys: are they in .fonts dir now? check out them06:46
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nickrudstevenj: no, gtklp won't help you there.06:46
deFryskunperson, can be fixed , see ubuntuguide.org06:46
Plexysamiroff: they are not06:46
thechitowncubsI got it sweet06:46
amiroffthechitowncubs: there are many free vnc viewers for windows, just google it06:46
thechitowncubsI got it06:47
amiroffjust copy them there manually06:47
amiroffPlexys: just copy them there manually06:47
amiroffPlexys: copy and paste :)06:47
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Alfred1881synaptic = kynaptic ???06:47
stevenjnickrud, have you seen this issue yourself-if so are there any solutions06:47
amiroffthechitowncubs: good :)06:47
amiroffAlfred1881: synaptic > Kynaptic06:47
Alfred1881lol06:48
thechitowncubsThis is awesome06:48
yurikoug. If I launch a broswer it won't respon and in the ps tree it seems to duplicate itself06:48
nickrudstevenj: aaah, printing in firefox comes and goes :)06:48
yurikoso now I have 5 galeon process06:48
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Plexysamiroff: i tried to copy the arial.tff into fonts:, but it won't appear. although the right-click menu says i can paste, it just doesn't come06:48
Plexysamiroff: although i can copy the .ttf into my home folder06:48
hileyuriko: it's just threads shown like that in lin ux06:49
sillygirlyim trying to get my sound to initialize - please help.06:49
amiroffPlexys: open 2 windows, c:\windows\fonts and /home/blah/.fonts06:49
Alfred1881i suppose synaptic is easier than rpm ?06:49
nickrudstevenj: I  have a slower machine, so I don't use firefox right now:)06:49
stevenjnickrud, heh....well I will keep researching...I just read on a forum somewhere to change the print command...06:49
amiroffPlexys: now drag and drop all the ttf files to /home/blah/.fonts06:49
Plexysamiroff: sorry for my newbieness, but what do you mean by blah? my user home folder?06:50
amiroffPlexys: yeah :)06:50
yurikohile. Not sure what you mean. Galeon is still not loading and I have 9 process ID's for it now.06:50
amiroffPlexys: no worries, we are all newbies06:50
Plexysamiroff: that directory doesn't exist06:50
Alfred1881amiroff i suppose synaptic is easier than rpm ?06:50
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Plexysamiroff: some wiki told me to copy it into 'fonts:///', which is a valid location on my pc, because all the fonts appear06:51
DoppelGangerha06:51
Plexysamiroff: however, the problem is that when i try to paste a file into that directory it won't appear06:51
DoppelGangersome wikis are dependable sources06:51
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amiroffPlexys: if there is no .fonts dir, just create it06:51
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DoppelGangerthen again some wikis just plain suck06:51
Plexysamiroff: the . included?06:51
amiroffPlexys: that second option had to work, dunno why did not though06:51
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amiroffPlexys: yes, it will make it hidden folder06:52
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Plexysamiroff: ok, i created it and successfully pasted the arial.ttf file in there06:52
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Plexysamiroff: now, can i use that for various applications?06:52
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amiroffPlexys: great, yes!06:52
amiroffPlexys: launch font conf. dialog and change your font from there06:53
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blueprismnickrud you still here ?06:53
nickrudblueprism, you just caught me before I left06:54
blueprismnickrud im still tracking the x-window-system package but still cant seem to find any mirro rwith it ... and all the apt says is its referred to by anotherpackage06:54
JinxColorif I changed video cards do I have to reconfig xserver?06:54
blueprismany way to get name of which06:54
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Alfred1881amiroff: i suppose synaptic is easier than rpm's ?06:55
amiroffAlfred1881: synaptic has nothing to do with rpms, does it?06:55
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amiroffAlfred1881: you can use synaptic on rpm based distros too06:55
excelhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/jxL1oF95.html <-- Any ideas what is wrong here?06:55
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Plexysamiroff: thank you, openoffice word processor is now writing in arial :)06:56
sid77hi06:56
Alfred1881i mean what about installing progs06:56
Alfred1881is it easy06:56
amiroffPlexys: enjoy man!06:56
nickrudblueprism: I've got 6.8.2-10 available.06:56
dcahrakosdoesnt anyone know what causes a hang at starting hotplug subsystem?? I just got it to get past the initial install from the cd, but now it hangs there06:56
amiroffPlexys: but you will have to do that again if you create another user in future, to do that only once you should install the fonts system-wide06:56
blueprismnickrud damn06:57
blueprismcan i borrow your sources.list?06:57
blueprism:x06:57
nickrudblue-prism: Hoary??06:57
blueprismyep06:57
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Plexysamiroff: ok, i'll keep that in mind06:57
nickrudI'll put it on pastebin.com06:57
blueprismnickrud should i change to other than hoary?06:57
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dcravenbluefoxicy, no. Hoary is good.06:59
dcravenbiab06:59
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yurikodcahrakos can't you turn that off?06:59
dcravenerr.. blueprism no. Hoary is good.06:59
dcahrakosyuriko, turn what off?06:59
yurikohotplugging07:00
blueprismah07:00
dave__hmm think ive got my broadcom chipset wifi card working now yay, just wish my wirelesss wasnt away for repair now doh07:00
blueprismnow im just waiting for a proper sources.list if nickrud would find it07:00
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Nermalanything in the breezy repositories yet ?07:00
dave__my windows pc with wifi card seems to see it adhoc anyway07:00
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nickrudhttp://pastebin.com/27243907:01
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Alfred1881are mplayer, kmplayer integrated in (k) ubuntu ????07:03
DoppelGangerdunno are they07:03
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tbirdAlfred1881, yes if you install em07:03
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djm62for certain values of integrated ;)07:04
smouchedon't think so -- anyway, I don't have kmplayer on mine07:04
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GNAMAlfred1881: UNIVERSE is the law07:04
smoucheI suppose kmplayer is more "integrated" than plain mplayer, by definition ;-)07:05
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DoppelGangerintegrated07:05
DoppelGangerhmmm07:05
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DoppelGangerinteresting07:05
danthemanif i'm ssh-ed into a remote machine, how can i copy a file from there onto my computer?07:05
djm62dantheman: use scp or sftp?07:05
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triandafilos_what software do i use to burn dvd?07:06
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danthemanalright07:06
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DoppelGangerhe eh triandafilos_ www.fuckinggoogleit.com07:06
blueprismnice nickrud07:06
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blueprismit works fine now07:06
DoppelGangerthts wht you get for speaking english07:06
djm62triandafilos_: on plain ubuntu, gnomebaker07:06
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triandafilos_thanks07:06
Poprockshey all, I just installed Warty yesterday and apt-got it to Hoary.  It was working fine at first, but now when GNOME starts, my laptop freezes solid -- it gets to putting the gnome-panel but before the applets can load it freezes07:06
nickrudblueprism: so do you have x-window-system now?07:07
nickrudblueprism, good.07:07
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djm62Poprocks: can you start it from the command line to see what errors come up?07:07
Poprocksdjm62: I don't get any07:07
nickrudtime for sunday morning brunch.07:07
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djm62Poprocks: does it completely freeze, or does gnome just stop loading?07:08
Poprocksdjm62: I can't move the mouse, and I can't ctrl+alt+backspace07:08
djm62Poprocks: nasty! but X is starting ok, because you see the pictures until then?07:09
Poprocksdjm62: yeah I can start X with an xterm07:09
blueprismanyone know if there is a blackbox or fluxbox package for ubuntu ?07:09
blueprismor do i have to stick with either kde or gnome ?07:09
djm62blueprism: in universe/multiverse there is07:10
crimsunblueprism: (universe)07:10
blueprismah sweet =)07:10
xdknblueprism, u may also install xfce :] 07:10
Poprocksbrb, I need more virtual consoles07:10
blueprismxdkn im more into blackbox or fluxbox07:10
blueprismkde is nice for some people07:10
blueprismbut i dont like all this fancy setup07:10
crimsun(xfce4 would be the correct metapackage name ;-)07:10
djm62crimsun: any idea what could be wrong for poprocks?07:11
blueprismi like my linux clean style07:11
crimsundjm62: dunno, haven't looked at it07:11
crimsundjm62: got a bugzilla url?07:11
djm62nope07:11
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dj-deathhi all07:12
dj-deathI'm trying to compile luminocity07:12
crimsunPoprocks: so the problem only exhibits itself when you start gnome 2.10.1 in Hoary?07:13
Poprockscrimsun: yeah but it *did* work for a while after I upgraded07:13
dj-deathbut configure.ac require xtst.pc from libxtst07:13
Poprocksand after I rebooted I might add07:13
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blueprismhm what the hell is the name of that window manager that starts it on reboot ?07:13
dj-deathbut I cant find this file using apt-file07:13
Poprocksbut then I ran the GIMP, and it froze while it was starting.  Ever since then, it's been doing it07:13
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djm62Poprocks: can you ssh to the machine? to confirm how deeply it's locked07:14
Poprocksdjm62: good question, I'll try07:14
unpersonSorry, I asked this before but then I had to leave before I could see the answer.  Do all the marilliat packages come up as unauthenticated?07:14
crimsundj-death: use packages.ubuntu.com07:15
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dj-deathcrimsun: ?07:15
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djm62give you a fighting chance to get error messages07:15
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crimsundj-death: use the search feature on packages.ubuntu.com. It will tell you which -dev package to install.07:15
dj-deathok07:15
Poprocksok, hold onto your butts07:16
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crimsununperson: wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary07:16
kippihow do you set-up ssh?07:16
crimsunkippi: the server? aptitude install openssh-server07:16
unpersonPoprocks:  That's not very lady like.07:16
Poprockshmm07:16
dj-deathcrimsun: not found07:16
Poprocksstarting gnome-panel didn't freeze it07:16
SeamusLPcrimsun:  Perhaps you can clear something up for me.  System -> about gnome says gnome 2.10.0, but my packages seem to suggest that I'm running 2.10.1.  Furthermore I wasn't even aware there was a 2.10.107:16
unpersoncrimsun:  Thanks.07:16
kippicrimsun: ah ok07:16
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rotheradhi guys, i have just installed ubuntu on my laptop, does any1 know how to make the battery monitor to work07:17
rotheradi have everythin else workin07:17
crimsunSeamusLP: you're running 2.10.1. The splash screens simply weren't all updated.07:18
Tirnorotherad: I have the same trouble. I think on most laptops, it just doesn't and won't07:18
rotheraddamn07:18
rotheradi need it to work, ill fiddle to try and get it workin07:18
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crimsunSeamusLP: 2.10.1 (instead of 2.10) is the reason Hoary was delayed from 6 April to 8 April07:18
dave__mine does07:18
rotheradif i cant ill have to go back to......07:18
blueprismpelase tell me if anyone has that to work07:18
SeamusLPcrimsun:  Ah, very interesting07:18
k-otikwhat is a bittorrentmeta file?07:18
blueprismwith battery monitor has the problem aswell07:18
blueprism:o07:18
dave__but sometime says running on batterys when its on ac07:18
unpersonTirno:  New to warty?07:18
djm62rotherad: http://www.linux-laptop.net/07:18
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unpersonTirno:  I mean, is that a new problem since Warty?07:19
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kippiif i am in a ssh login how would I su?07:19
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djm62kippi: sudo, same as usual07:19
DoppelGangerha ha07:19
SeamusLPcrimsun:  Also, are the next few gnome bug fix releases going to be built for hoary?  I'm noticing a buggy gnome-panel and nautilus.07:19
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itayhow do I install nvidia driver07:19
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vanQexcuse me07:20
kippiah ok07:20
GhostNr1in the packet system have they as standard hoary, are there any better. I can't get anything to work. Like mplayer07:20
vanQI just downloaded ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso07:20
vanQLive CD07:20
Tirnounperson: I've had the problem since warty07:20
vanQit's a .rar07:20
Tirnoand same on hoary07:20
vanQor wopsie07:20
vanQnothing07:20
vanQforget it07:20
DoppelGangerha ha07:20
crimsunSeamusLP: unlikely unless they're critical. You'd be better off tracking Breezy in a couple weeks.07:20
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Poprocksnope, can't ssh in07:20
turkey_joecan someone tell me why i can't hear any sound on my ubuntu machine??07:20
GhostNr1Tirno > Do you have any solution to it?07:21
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djm62Poprocks: can you specify noacpi on booting?07:21
turkey_joesorry...i hear it within the OS just can't hear it when playing games and stuff.07:21
SeamusLPcrimsun: Thanks07:21
PoprocksI don't *want* to run without acpi07:21
unpersonThe batter monitor worked fine for me in Warty and seems to still work in hoary.07:21
djm62Poprocks: but it would be nice to know if that was the problem07:21
djm62Poprocks: then solve it if it is07:21
Poprocksdjm62: why would starting gnome-panel not crash it then?07:21
turkey_joecan someone help me plz??07:22
unpersonrotherad:  I'm sure you did.  But you did go to prefs on the power monitor applet and check the "show battery life" box, right?07:22
unpersonI only ask because on my machine it was not checked by default.07:22
djm62Poprocks: the whole thing seems weird to me...the only thing I can thing of is the HAL07:22
Poprocksdjm62: I'll get rid of hal & dbus from my runlevel07:22
crimsunturkey_joe: pkill esd, then start your game07:23
unpersonPerhaps whether the battery monitor works depends on which power management system your machine uses, ACPI or APM.07:23
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TirnoI have acpi I think07:25
unpersonrotherad:  Does you laptop use APM or ACPI, any idea?07:25
turkey_joeok..that worked...thanks....how about when i'm listening to audio from the internet??07:25
djm62Poprocks: also, did the upgrade go completely right? did you use dist-upgrade? are all warty type entries definitely gone from your file07:25
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itayhow do I install nvidia driver?07:25
Tirnoit tells me battery status unknown07:25
rotheradunperson im not sure07:25
Poprocksdjm62: that I'm not sure about07:26
rotheradhow do i change / find out07:26
Poprocksyes I used dist-upgrade07:26
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unpersonTirno:  Mine is ACPI.  That's what is says in /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state?07:26
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Poprocksdjm62: and if by "my file" you mean sources.list then yes07:26
cavediverCan I disable recent document thing in gnome ?07:26
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Tirnounperson: /proc/acpi/battery is empty07:27
cikilinhello!!!!!!!!1107:27
blueprismhm is it bad if i get Gateway Timeout to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/(main,restricted,universe) ?07:27
blueprism:s07:27
unpersonrotherad:  It's a good question.  :-)  I don't recall how I found out.  I know you can pay close attention during boot and figure it out.  Go to /proc and see if there is an apm or acpi directory.07:27
rotheradthere is a acpi dir07:27
yurikook. It's not just gnome. XFCE won't work for one user either07:27
crimsunturkey_joe: eh? It should work. What sort of streams are you trying to play?07:27
Pipe15.04 i386 installed on PC without internet access, copied http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.8/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1_i386.deb over with usb-stick but can't run it from the gui the way I could do rpms in Mandrake. I can't install it with Archive manager. Is there maybe a way thru the console?07:28
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unpersonrotherad:  So, go to /proc/acpi/battery07:28
yurikoit starts up fine, but as soon as I try to do anything the application won't load completely07:28
SeamusLPPipe1: dpkg -i07:28
yurikoideas?07:28
unpersonTirno:  Hmm...don't know what that means.  Other than, presumably, it isn't aware of your battery at all.07:28
rotheradunperson: there is nothing in there07:28
SeamusLPPipe1: actually sudo dpkg -i :)07:29
unpersonrotherad:  Well, it definitely sounds like you have the same deal as Tirno.  I don't know the answer, though.07:29
unpersonI don't know much about it, unfortunately.07:30
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Tirnowhat laptop do you have rotherad?07:30
djm62Poprocks: I'm completely stumped...when you say running gnome-panel doesn't crash it...does that mean all you applets are loaded and working?07:30
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Poprocksdjm62: correct07:30
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Pipe1SeamusLP, thanks. It said unpacking and then setting up.07:30
Poprocksthe *only* thing that appears to crash it is gnome-session07:30
intinighello all07:30
Poprocksheck, running gnome-settings-daemon works07:30
cikilinhello!what do i have to do to remote  a pc?07:31
intinigDoes anyone know why I'm getting a virtual desktop larger than the screen resolution after I switched to fglxr?07:31
yurikoattempt to put segment in horiz line twice07:31
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yuriko?07:31
yurikothat's the only error I can find07:31
SeamusLPPipe1:  Word of advice, you can install rpms on ubuntu as well.  You use alien to convert them first.07:31
crimsunyuriko: unrelated.07:31
rotheradTirno: I have a Toshiba Equium L!)07:31
rotheradL10*07:31
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yurikowhere can I find the error?07:31
Pipe1SeamusLP: thanks, I'll look into that.07:31
yurikoI can't fix it if don't know what it is07:32
djm62Poprocks: what if you create a new user...does starting from default settings make a difference?07:32
rotheradunperson: can i change to APM to try it?07:32
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cikilinhi SeamusLP!07:32
Poprocks_PCyikes I spoke too soon!07:32
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ailleantsianhowdo i mount the fat2 hd so ubuntu will see my windows partition ?07:32
Poprocks_PCkilling gnome-settings-daemon & running it again crashed iit!07:32
SeamusLPcikilin:  Hello.07:32
cikilin:)07:32
SeamusLPcikilin, ubuntu been working out alright for you?07:33
Poprocks_PCmaybe I'll look at my control-center, maybe reinstall it07:33
rayenHi, I was wondering if the packages which are build for apt-get/debian are the same as on Ubuntu?07:33
djm62Poprocks_PC: have you tried creating a new user?07:33
cikilini had some unnespected pb!07:33
Poprocks_PCdjm62, the same thing happens as root, if that makes a difference07:33
SeamusLPAlright, shoot07:33
cikilinin principal yes07:33
unpersonrotherad:  I don't know.  I know my computer only supports ACPI, but I think some computers support both.07:33
unpersonrotherad:  I've been told that Linux support for APM is more mature.07:33
djm62Poprocks_PC: if root existed when you were running warty, maybe not...07:33
cikilinsometimes my windows are closing suddenly!07:33
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SysFailprop em up with a stick07:34
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SeamusLProtherad:  ACPI is much nicer, and kernel support for it is only improving07:34
unpersonrotherad:  But I don't think I know how to switch.  You might try looking up APM on the wiki or the forums.07:34
Poprocksok back on my laptop07:34
Poprocksdjm62: I'll try that now07:34
crimsunwhat's Poprocks's central issue?07:35
unpersonrotherad:  Sorry, I think this is beyond my depth.07:35
crimsungnome-session is fubaring gnome-panel?07:35
SeamusLPcikilin:  What do you mean?07:35
Poprockscrimsun: gnome-settings-daemon (it seems) is crashing my whole computer07:35
crimsunPoprocks: I thought you said gnome-settings-daemon _works_07:35
Poprockscrimsun: yes but I killed it and started it again and it crashed07:35
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rayenHi, I was wondering if the packages which are build for apt-get/debian are the same as on Ubuntu?07:36
Poprocksbrb, logging in as new user07:36
djm62of course, if it works as newuser, the mystery remains :-/07:37
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Dethreadn07:37
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crimsundid Poprocks say if (s)he is using an unsupported kernel?07:37
Poprocks_PCdamnit, little bugger07:37
Poprocks_PCcrimsun, I'm using 2.6.11-k7 from apt07:37
unpersonSeamusLP:  It sounds like ACPI may not work properly for his mobo, though.07:38
Poprocks_PCI can try 2.6.10 if you want07:38
Pipe15.04. Anything other than libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1_i386.deb needed to view encrypted DVDs? Totem seems to need "corresponding plugins".07:38
crimsunPoprocks_PC: .11 ?07:38
crimsunPoprocks_PC: from Debian?07:38
djm62.11?07:38
crimsunPoprocks_PC: or 2.6.11-0.2 from universe?07:38
Poprocks_PCcrimsun, I'm not sure, it might be from universe07:38
crimsunPoprocks_PC: there's your problem. 2.6.11-0.2 from universe is unsupported. Please do not use it.07:38
Poprocks_PCI didn't notice07:38
crimsunPoprocks_PC: uname -r07:38
Poprocks_PCit was the newest I saw, so I installed it.07:38
Poprocks_PCk lemme check that07:39
crimsunPoprocks_PC: no, use 2.6.10-5-k707:39
crimsunPoprocks_PC: unless you pass 2.6.11-0.2 "noinotify", it will freeze your machine.07:39
AmaranthDo _not_ ue 2.6.11-0.2, it is _known_ to not work.07:39
SeamusLPunperson:  I don't completely trust ACPI, but I've had good luck with it so far07:39
Amaranths/ue/use/07:39
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Poprocks2.6.11-1-k707:40
karimhow can I have the hoary fixes ?07:40
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SysFailk7 freezes mine everytime07:40
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crimsunPoprocks_PC: correct, that's 2.6.11-0.2. Do not use it.07:41
crimsunPoprocks_PC: that explains your machine's freezes.07:41
unpersonOk, for anyone needing to switch from ACPI to APM, this may be a start:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2620.html07:41
mukanicodoes anyone have problems about the ram usage on Kubuntu?07:41
crimsunPoprocks_PC: alternately, you can use 2.6.11-0.2 if you pass "noinotify" as a boot parameter07:41
Poprockscrimsun: hmm, ok.  I used it on Slackware when I had it previously, but that was a vanilla kernel, ubuntu's is probably pretty heavily patched...07:41
crimsunmukanico: no07:41
crimsunPoprocks: very heavily.07:41
FeildingHello everyone :)  does ubuntu or Kubuntu have support for Sony Mini disks? TIA :)07:42
kippiis i wanted to run a ftp server, what would be a good ftp server?07:42
Poprockscrimsun: that's ok, I'll try 2.6.10!  brb :)07:42
karimhow to get the updates for hoary ?07:42
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crimsunkippi: I recommend using scp or sftp instead, but if you must use ftp, use vsftpd or proftpd07:42
Nermalapt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade ?07:42
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karimI mean is there some sources to add07:42
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Nermalkarim: oh..07:42
karimin plus of the one I got before it freezed07:43
Nermaldeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted07:43
Nermaldeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted07:43
karimthanks :D07:43
karimis there e17 in breezy ?07:43
kippicrimsun: if i used sftp can you use a normal ftp client to connect to it?07:43
voidedhi!  what do i need in sources.list to upgrade to breezy from hoary ?07:43
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karimNermal, there is no updates for universe and multiverse ?07:43
crimsunkippi: I'd use scp (ssh).07:44
crimsunkarim: for multiverse, no07:44
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Poprocks_PCyay!07:45
djm62Feilding: http://notmd.sourceforge.net/ might help you07:45
unpersonFeilding:  I don't know for sure.  I'd be skeptical, though, since minidisks use propriety ALTRAC compression.07:45
Poprocks_PCI need to get ubuntu's ndiswrapper-utils back, when it didn't work on 2.6.11 I compiled my own XD07:45
Feildingok Ty :)07:45
unpersonI stand corrected.  :-)07:45
voidedanyone?  is there an howto or something that talks about it?07:45
Poprocks_PCbut the kernel was the problem with the freezes07:45
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Pipe15.04: can't play unencrypted or encrypted (install of libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1_i386.deb seemed fine) DVDs with Totem: no decoder for VOB. Something else needed?07:46
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SysFailpipe: try kaffeine07:47
SysFailsee if the libs are working07:47
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djm62has anyone got totem playing DVDs happily?07:47
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SysFaili play all mine in kaffeine without a hitch07:47
djm62totem freezes every time for me...I'm happy enough to use mplayer, but I've yet to see totem play anything :-/07:48
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Feildingyea i always just use xmms or kafeen07:48
SysFaili couldnt get xmms to play movies07:48
Poprocks_PCxmms for DVDs??07:48
SysFailhowd you do that?07:48
Poprocks_PCmaybe with the mplayer plugin...07:49
djm62popcorn plugin, back in the day07:49
Feilding0o sorry thought you where talking about music07:49
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FeildingI have no DVD07:49
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Pipe1SysFail: Ah, thanks. Newbie here: where's kaff? It's not under "Applications" "Sound & Video", nor in the list for "Run Application". Do I need to download its deb?07:49
RRubini cant seem to make a kernel that boots. is there an initrd trick to it?07:49
SysFailits under multimedia07:50
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SysFailkaffeine is the command07:50
DoppelGangercaffeine is in coffee07:50
DoppelGangerhe eh07:50
markumansome gamers here? ubuntu-gamers meeting - #ubuntu-gaming ;-)07:50
crimsunRRubin: yes, read the cramfs section in the make-kpkg section carefull.07:50
crimsunRRubin: carefully^07:50
djm62Pipe1: apt-cache search kaffeine if it isn't installed07:50
RRubincrimsun: someone might want to update http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelCompileHowto/view?searchterm=compile%20kernel07:50
crimsunRRubin: otherwise, skip the initrd altogether and compile everything needed to access your / directly into your kernel07:50
crimsunRRubin: you can update it, too...07:50
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unpersonAnyone with a laptop have any luck switching between the built-in LCD and a connected monitor?07:51
Pipe1djm62: the ubuntu PC's not connected to the net, I'll download it and usb-stick it over. Thanks.07:51
RRubini may be able to after i read the manual you mentioned :)07:51
crimsunRRubin: that's why I always carry a K/ubuntu livecd07:51
RRubini have the orig kernel handy, but ndiswrapper wont load into it so im trying to fix that07:52
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RRubincrimsun: hrm so i read that section ... about needing a patched kernel. but i got my kernel from apt07:53
marcin_anthi all I got short question - how to play something with mpg321?07:53
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marcin_antI got info that "can't find suitable libdao driver"07:54
munkimarcin_ant, then you need to get det libdao driver07:54
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crimsunRRubin: your kernel _source_, I presume?07:55
Poprocksconfiguring synaptics driver is the next step ... I *hate* tap-to-click07:55
yurikonewuser works fine until I use oldusers /home07:56
munkimarcin_ant, search in synaptic07:56
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marcin_antmunki:  dpkg -l | grep libao07:56
marcin_antii  libao2         0.8.5-1ubuntu2 Cross Platform Audio Output Library07:56
marcin_antmunki: so apparently I got this package installed07:57
munkihmm, ya.. seems like that07:57
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munkiwhat does mpg321 say, when you mpg321 <filename> ?07:58
munkiand what kind of file, are trying to play ?07:58
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munkimarcin_ant , hmm.. mine says the same :S07:59
marcin_antmunki: you want it all?07:59
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munkimarcin_ant , heh.. no thanks :) mine say the same, device in use07:59
marcin_antmunki: "Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)07:59
marcin_ant"07:59
munkii think maybe Gnome are taking control of libao08:00
munkiso it is in use, you know.. the gnome-systemsounds08:00
munkiuse mplayer, that works :)08:00
marcin_antmunki: the thing is that I don't use gnome08:00
RRubinim having problems with sound too. anyone gotten xmms to work?08:01
crimsunRRubin: yep. What sort of issues?08:01
marcin_antmunki: I mean I don't have gnome-session08:01
RRubingnome can play them08:01
marcin_antmunki: I use ion3 as window manager08:01
RRubinbut nothing else can (xmms, xine, etc)08:01
munkimarcin_ant , okay.. dunno then08:01
RRubinim sorta new to gnome08:01
crimsunRRubin: tell your non-gnome music apps to use esd08:01
marcin_antmunki: and I would like to use emacs with emms (which is frontend to mpg321)08:01
crimsunRRubin: for instance, tell xmms and/or beep-media-player to use their esound outputs08:02
RRubincrimsun: ahh, so i prolly need xmms-esd08:02
marcin_antmunki: and while mpg321 doesn't work then well I need to use xmms or something like this08:02
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regeyaor you could just not use esd, unless you really need for gnome apps to beep and boop ;-)08:02
crimsunRRubin: no, just change the output plugin in preferences08:02
munkimarcin_ant , ya.. don't know how to get it to work ..08:03
munkimarcin_ant , just checked -I got the same issue..08:03
marcin_antmunki: ok08:03
marcin_antmunki: well it's not ok - but it's ok that you can reproduce this bug08:04
RRubincrimsun: that worked. thanks08:04
crimsunRRubin: np08:04
marcin_antmunki: so I can file bug report08:04
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Richy22866when trying to upload files as user 'games' it does a bit then receive "connection closed. server timeout", but other users work fine. have tried a few ftpds and same prob. what could be causing this? No quotas are set, connection is fine.08:04
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nicoOoOhi08:05
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munkimarcin_ant , ya.. do that08:06
munkimarcin_ant , I don't have to use mpg321 -but please bug it08:06
RRubinis there an ls command that puts dirs first?08:06
nicoOoOanybody knows an IRC client that allows to use a different charset for each channel joined? xchat doesn't seem to allow it... /charset changes the charset of all the channels joined on the current server :(08:07
RRubinmarcin_ant: have you tried mp3blaster?08:07
RRubinmpg321 suxx08:07
munkiRRubin , why so ?08:07
crimsunnicoOoO: I'm fairly certain Kopete does08:07
RRubinmunki: cant stream worth salt08:08
RRubinskips constantly08:08
nicoOoOcrimsun, thanks... it is a kde client isn't it? :(08:08
RRubineven when streaming localhost (ampache)08:08
munkiRRubin , but it does play mp3, ogg08:08
munkiwav, etc...08:08
kippido people use postfix or sendmail? which one would people recomend?08:08
RRubinmp3blaster does too, with a nice curses interface to boot08:08
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crimsunnicoOoO: you can use another one...chatzilla, for instance, or Gaim or irssi, ...08:09
djm62nicoOoO: gaim seems to display most languages correctly08:09
blueprismhm where to find the proftpd package for ubuntu08:09
munkiya, but please whatch your language, mpg321 is nice app.08:09
crimsunblueprism: in universe08:09
nicoOoOgaim? isn't it an IM client?08:09
djm62nicoOoO: with options to have IRC channels as buddies08:09
zenroxnicoOoO, but it also does irc protical08:10
nicoOoOhmm...08:10
djm62nicoOoO: it's not a dedicated irc client, but it's quite usable (I'm on it now)08:10
Myrttidjm62: I thought the IRC protocol doesn't comment on what charset should be used in IRC08:10
Myrttidjm62: so if you're seeing different languages correctly, that's just because you've been lucky08:10
djm62Myrtti: well, the _real_ solution is jabber ;)08:11
Myrttiif that was what you meant08:11
Myrttidjm62: the _real_ solution is bitlbee08:11
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djm62bitlbee? doesn't that sit on top of irc?08:12
nicoOoOi don't understant why don't everybody use UTF808:12
LycoNCan i install LILO from windows?08:12
blueprismcrimsun hmm hehe i think i need to find a sources.list somewhere with proper mirros to universe08:12
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Myrttino, irc sits on top of it08:12
MyrttinicoOoO: old habits die hard08:13
sigblueprism: look at sources.list examples on ubuntuguide.org08:13
sigon adding repo's08:13
michaelcan anyone help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27705 ???08:13
blueprismsig ah thanks alot08:13
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nicoOoOMyrtti, yes i guess so08:14
tck_anyone else getting gpg errors off the ftp://ftp.nerim.net hoary source list whence doing an apt-get update08:14
Nermalyah08:14
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Nermalanyone on breezy yet ?08:14
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crimsunNermal: yes08:14
nicoOoOnever used chatzilla is it a stand-alone program or part of the "big" mozilla?08:15
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michaelcan anyone help me with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27705 ??? i really do need help on this08:15
crimsunnicoOoO: part of the big suite08:15
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nicoOoOk08:15
Nermalcrimsun: much difference between that and hoary yet ?08:15
MyrttinicoOoO: if one's on several channels where everyone else uses iso-8859-1, it's easier to switch to that than to make others to switch their charsets08:15
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Nermaluseable ? breakage ?08:15
patrick_theres a chatzilla extension for firefox08:15
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jordanaui messed up the top line of my /etc/apt/source.list file can someone on hoary please post their cd repository link08:17
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dragonmanhello everyone i'm a newbie and have a few questions if you don't mind08:18
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kyncanijordanau: goto #flood08:18
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jordanau#flood08:19
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jordanaukyncani, im there08:19
djm62dragonman: just ask08:19
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dragonmanim at the root and can't figure out how to log in08:19
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cnez0redwtf? According to the system monitor applet, I'm using 100% cpu. But according to gnome system, nothing is using any cpu power.08:20
djm62dragonman: what's on your screen exactly?08:20
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jordanaukyncani, great its fixed, thank you08:20
passbonjour a tous08:20
kyncanijordanau: np08:21
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RRubincnez0red: cpu frequency monitor?08:21
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|iggy|Does anybody can help me with my laptop? If i turn down the display the monitor is not going down but when im away from the laptop they turn off08:21
cnez0redRRubin yeah.08:22
dragonmanim not on the screen now but i believe its in red and says either root live: or boot live:08:22
djm62dragonman: just after you power-on/put the disk in?08:22
cnez0redand what's this process called getty? There's six of those happening.08:23
dr_willisthose do the LOGIN: on the consoles08:23
dragonmanafter it does some installing yes08:23
djm62dr_willis: was that for dragonman?08:23
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nickrudcnezOred: those are the ctl alt  F1 thru F6 consoles08:23
dr_willisgetty and mgetty handle the login: and a few other things. :P08:24
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cnez0rednickrud I see. Well gnome-system-monitor advised against killing them, so I didn't.08:24
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djm62dragonman: just press enter (or wait for a few seconds)08:24
nickrudwise choice :)08:24
nydustI have a company and we need i website, and a webshop. what is the best? free templates ect.08:25
cnez0redI'd still like to know why my cpu is 100% in use though. I'm only using Pan, this, and a few terminal windows.08:25
nydusti =a08:25
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nickrudcnez0red: change the preferences in the applet to use very different colors, that will help08:25
djm62nydust: you might be better off farming the webshop off onto ebay or someone08:26
dragonmanill try that but i think ive already tried it08:26
nydustdjm62, farming?08:26
cnez0rednickrud how will that help?08:26
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djm62nydust: as in, not trying to develop a secure, user-friendly webshop yourself...avoid the hassle08:26
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nickrudcnez0red: there are different reasons why the cpu can be busy; this will help you track it down.08:27
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nydustdjm62, i see, but we need it for our clients. I dont think they want to bay on ebay...08:27
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beggarwhat are the better direct connect client+gui for linux?08:27
djm62nydust: http://plone.org/ might be your CMS08:27
nydustdjm62, i see the hassle08:28
nydustdjm62, thanks08:28
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cnez0rednickrud it's mostly user.08:29
nickrudcnez0red: then in a terminal, start the top program08:30
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cnez0rednickrud aah... a game called XRunSabre is still running. I thought I'd quit it ages ago. That probly doesn't help.08:30
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nickrudcnez0red: probably not :)08:31
cnez0rednickrud now my cpu usage has gone down to 5% heh.08:31
BrettMeisterHey, everyone.  Seems like I installed Kubuntu okay...got to the login, logged in okay.  Now what?  How do I get from the terminal to the KDE desktop?08:31
cnez0redactually bouncing between 5-30%.08:31
cnez0rednickrud thanx for that. Didn't think of trying top.08:32
Marble2why does traceroute not work for me?08:32
ublivestartx08:32
BrettMeisterI sure would apreciate any help....08:32
nickrudcnez0red: now pick some colors you can live with :)08:32
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cnez0redMarble2 have u tried it with route privelages?08:32
NotANickBrettMeister: startx08:32
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BrettMeisterNotANick: That's it?08:32
Marble2cnez0red: how do I set that up?08:32
ubliveor CTRL-F7 if its already started08:33
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cnez0rednickrud I think I can live with these. Gives me a better idea what's going on than different shades of blue.08:33
kyncaniBrettMeister: ALT-F708:33
ssambrettmeister, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start08:33
BrettMeisterkyncani: thanks08:33
GarathorIs there any way i can use ISO8859-1 in aterm?08:33
BrettMeisterSeems like several of you have some different ways.  All okay?08:33
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ubliveoh ya, CTRL-ALT-F708:33
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LycoNI have linux installed on my primary harddrive.  i have windows xp installed on my secondary harddrive.  grub gives me error 21 and wont load windows on secondary harddrive.  Help?08:33
cnez0redMarble2 have u got installed? If not, try $sudo apt-get install traceroute08:34
Marble2cnez0red: I have08:34
BrettMeisterThanks everyone.08:34
BrettMeisterssam: Thanks.08:34
Marble2it just gives me  * * * crap past the first hop08:34
NotANickBrettMeister: or you can try startkde, i think that works08:34
cnez0redMarble2 network probs?08:35
BrettMeisterNotANick: Thanks.  I'll try these ideas.08:35
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Marble2cnez0red: I can get online fine08:35
Marble2use irc, web, whatever08:35
Marble2but traceroute just doesn't work08:35
BrettMeisterNotANick: Is this the usual way that ubuntu starts once installed?08:35
Marble2traceroute to google.com (216.239.37.99), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets08:35
Marble2 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  5.815 ms  0.651 ms  0.613 ms08:35
Marble2 2  * * *08:35
Marble2 3  * *08:35
Marble2and so on08:35
cnez0redMarble2 that could be down to your dns.08:35
Marble2how can I fix that?08:35
cnez0redtry $cat /etc/resolv.conf08:35
BrettMeisterNotANick: As you can tell I'm used to another distro..Fc308:35
kyncaniBrettMeister: no, once instelled, boot will take you to the graphical login sccreen08:35
Marble2okay08:36
Marble2should I paste the output here?08:36
BrettMeisterkyncani: okay.  Thanks for your help.08:36
kyncaniMarble2: NO, #flood08:36
Marble2cnez0red: go to #flood08:36
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cnez0redMarble2 I don't know how you fix it really. I know that if there's more than two addresses in your /etc/resolv.conf, the problem is _definitely_ at your end.08:36
marcin_antmunki: I got mpg321 working08:37
Marble2there's 3 nameserver lines08:37
Marble2and 1 search line08:37
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marcin_antmunki: mpg321 -o alsa file.mp3 works nice08:37
kyncaniMarble2: It's fine08:37
cnez0redMarble2 I don't think they're should be. What kind of connection do u have?08:37
Marble2cable08:37
Marble2from roadrunner08:37
cmonopoly72Hello everyone.08:37
Marble2kyncani: what's fine?08:37
Marble2my resolv.conf?08:37
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cnez0redWell I'm on dialup, and I know for a fact that if there's more than two dns lines in my /etc/resolv.conf, I'm going to have difficulties resolving addresses.08:38
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Marble2mmmk08:38
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cnez0redUsually what I do if that happens, is disconnect, type $sudo echo "" > /etc/resolv.conf08:39
cnez0redand then reconnect.08:39
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Marble2kyncani, you have any ideas?08:39
LycoNI have linux installed on my primary harddrive.  i have windows xp installed on my secondary harddrive.  grub gives me error 21 and wont load windows on secondary harddrive.  Help?08:40
nicedreamsMay I make a request for the Ubuntu team to put support for 'freevo' in the repositories?08:40
kyncanicnez0red, Marble2: i think there are two nameservers, a primary and a secondary one08:40
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kyncaniMarble2: man resolv.conf for details08:40
LycoNwhere is GRUB.CONF?08:40
Marble2LycoN: /etc08:40
cmonopoly72I hope I'm not interrupting anyone but, did I have to forward port 6667 to be able to connect to IRC?08:40
goldfishcmonopoly72: nope08:40
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cmonopoly72Thanks goldfish.08:41
goldfishcmonopoly72: if u want to run an irc server to the outside u have to08:41
cmonopoly72I see.08:41
forsakerhi guys08:41
goldfishhi forsaker08:41
LycoNI dont have grub.conf08:42
kyncaniLycoN: type: locate grub.conf08:42
RRubinhrm08:42
RRubinmy rhythmbox cant play mp3 files08:42
cmonopoly72Well, thanks, I have to go fix that : ). I'll come back another time.08:42
RRubinsays there is no plugin?08:42
zenroxLycoN,  its in /boot/grub/08:42
cnez0redMarble2 best  advice I can give u is try  disconnecting, type $sudo echo "" > /etc/resolv.conf , the reconnecting and see if that clears things up. But then again, I'm a lamer. Sorry. :(08:42
LycoNno mine is in /usr/balla08:42
Marble2okay08:43
nickrudcnez0red: that should work for most cases08:43
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cnez0rednickrud hey I don't understand this stuff. I'm giving advice soully based on bitter experience.08:44
blueyedI have an old SB Live card and would like to use the rear output for my headphones, but I cannot get it to work. KMix has a "Headphone" slider control, but I cannot (un)mute it.. ideas?08:44
crimsunblueyed: use alsamixer to unmute the surround mixer element08:44
nickrudcnez0red: :)08:44
LycoNso how can i get grub to see windowsxp on my second harddrive08:44
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forsakeri think you have to add an entry in your menu.lst file LycoN08:46
RRubinhow do i get rhythmbox to play mp3 files? need a package?08:46
cikilinhow i burn with k3b an iso image on cd?08:46
crimsunRRubin: gstreamer0.8-mad from universe.08:46
crimsunRRubin: see wiki/RestrictedFormats08:46
blueyedcrimsun, awesome.. it's "wave surround".. only on the right side for now though. Thanks!08:46
LycoNok just how do i reconfigure grub08:47
LycoNterminal command?08:47
cikilinhelloooooooooo08:47
nickrudLycoN: add the grub stanza at http://pastebin.com/272478 to the end of /boot/grub/menu.lst08:47
forsakerLycoN: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst08:47
nickrudthe last option when you boot up again will give you back xp :)08:48
LycoNit better :)08:48
cikilinis anybody using k3b?08:48
nickrudLycoN: Works for Me ;)08:48
forsakeryou have to properly check that the root voice is correct08:48
kingsleyHas anyone here tried an HP Color Laserjet 2550 printer?08:48
forsakerLycoN: you said win is on you second hd08:49
forsakerright?08:49
LycoNso i have to add only title root ans savedefault and chainloader08:49
LycoNyes08:49
LycoNi will change that08:49
LycoNhd108:49
forsakeryes08:49
nickrudforsaker: thanks for the catch.08:49
cikilinhow i burn with k3b an iso image on cd?08:49
cikilinis anybody using k3b?08:49
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forsakernickrud: ;)08:49
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RRubincrimsun: hrm. today i learn that 'deb' must not have a space in front of it in sources.list :) thx08:50
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beggarcikilin, go to tools->CD->Burn CD image08:51
beggarthan choose the image file08:52
cikilini want it iso08:52
blueyedcrimsun, it works. Had to slide "EMU10K1 PCM Send Routing" up.08:52
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crimsunblueyed: good.08:52
blueyedcrimsun, what are the Headphone settings for (LFE 1, 1, Center 1)?08:52
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beggarcikilin, choose ISO9660 Image Files08:52
crimsunblueyed: headphones? Don't know offhand.08:52
crimsunRRubin: actually a space doesn't matter.08:53
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cikilini am doing08:53
RRubincrimsun: universe packages wernt showing up untill i removed it..08:53
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crimsunRRubin: mine have leading spaces08:53
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beggarbut cikilin, k3b auto detects the image file type08:54
RRubinhm08:54
RRubini didnt change anything else08:54
RRubinmaybe it was a tab?08:54
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kippi1has anyone installed sendmail?08:54
crimsunkippi1: postfix doesn't cut it?08:55
cikilink beggar08:55
dataw0lfhello gents.08:55
kippi1crimsun: always used sendmail and its what we use at work so would like to see if i can get it working at home08:55
forsakermm guys: just wondering about apt.. is there any way to search 4 packages through consol. Something like #apt-get search... or whatever...08:55
topylidataw0lf: hello08:56
crimsunforsaker: apt-cache search <search keywords>08:56
iceman007apt-cache search *08:56
nickrudforsaker: apt-cache search08:56
forsakerwow splendid :D08:56
dataw0lfsup topyli08:56
forsakerthank you ;)08:56
kippi1crimsun: or would you recomend postfix?08:56
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LycoNI'm Back... :/08:57
forsakermmm08:57
LycoNit gave me error 21 does not exsist08:57
LycoNin my bios i cant change my secdondary drive to say harddrive08:57
LycoNit says cdrom reader08:57
LycoNi just want to use lilo08:58
LycoNi heard that works08:58
LycoNhow do i get it08:58
forsakernooo use grub: it rocks!08:58
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LycoNwell it doesnt work08:58
LycoNit does not recognize my sec harddrive08:58
LycoNdo u understand08:58
LycoNno fix08:58
forsakeryes you're right ;)08:59
nickrudLycoN: how about doing ls /dev/hd*08:59
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LycoNdoin wat?08:59
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nickrudMake sure that hd1 is the right drive :)08:59
LycoNi kno it is08:59
LycoNif i want to use windows i have to switch cables around in my comp08:59
nickrudif it says cdrom, something fundamental is wrong08:59
LycoNyes its a dell ;/09:00
dataw0lfor you have a CD in your tray.09:00
LycoNno cd09:00
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jasonhello09:00
dataw0lfit's probably erroneously reading that you have a CD there.09:00
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LycoNu might be right09:00
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forsakermmm... try $ ls /dev/hd* as nickrud said09:01
jasonhoary i386 on howto get a wacom configured + apt-get wacom-kernel-sources - howto use em ????09:01
LycoNsomething fallof into my cdrom drive way back it09:01
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nickrudLycoN maybe you should rewrite grub so that xp is always hd009:01
LycoNwell xp is on hd109:02
LycoNnot hd009:02
stevenjis gftp the recommended FTP client?09:02
forsakerjust a moment09:02
nickrudLycoN you mentioned moving cables ...09:02
dave__im having trouble playing my mp3's networked off my win box via xmms on ubuntu, any suggestions?09:02
LycoNyes09:02
ubuntuI just downloaded the Ubuntu Live CD, burned it and am now running it and all I can say is "WOW". It's also my first time ever using Linux believe it or not09:02
forsakerwhen you say09:02
LycoNit is really annoying switching cables around09:03
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LycoNlike my IDE cables09:03
forsakerhd1 you mean hd1 in grub's notation, right?09:03
ShavnirOkay, Shav vs. computer round two :)09:03
nickrudso when xp boots correctly, it's identified as hd0; the cables say so09:03
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LycoNyes09:03
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Shavnirlspci | grep Unknown returns no less than 15 lines.09:03
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forsakermm.. ok then09:03
ShavnirI think the first order of action is to download and install the nForce4 drivers though.09:04
LycoNok wait09:04
nickrudOk, leave it there, and tell grub what disk and partition ubuntu is. I always leave windows as hd009:04
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senator32I NEED HELP!!! I am trying to get my 802.11b card working. PCMCIA Siemens SS1021 version 1, has the Prism 2/2.5/3 chipset, ndiswrapper says that it will work with it but i cant find an .inf that will work CAN anyone HELP me09:06
RRubinsenator32: read the list of cards on ndiswrappers website09:06
njansenator32, if it's prism2/2.5, you shouldn't have to use ndiswrapper.09:06
senator32really09:07
dave__im having trouble playing my mp3's networked off my win box via xmms on ubuntu, any suggestions?09:07
senator32how can i get it to work w/o ndiswrapper09:07
senator32i read the list and it was listed09:07
dave__also when i copy stuff onto my flash drive it appears on there but as soon as i take it off its gone09:07
RRubindave__: <crimsun> RRubin: see wiki/RestrictedFormats09:07
senator32and it has the Prism 2/2,5/3 chipset09:07
RRubindave__: ubuntu has no mp3 support out of the box09:07
dave__ta09:07
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RRubinu gotta get it from another mirror09:08
dave__so how can i get it to work? i have xmms on it now09:08
RRubinsee the wiki09:08
njanSiemens Speedstream  802.11b  1021  PCMCIA  Prism2/2.5/3  09:08
njanLinux-wlan-ng09:08
njan(http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz)09:08
senator32i cant seem to configure the card to work at any rate, is there a module I need to modprobe09:08
njanyeah, you can definitely use it w/o ndiswrapper, senator3209:08
forsakerc u folk: goin' to dinner09:08
RRubindave__: hrm xmms should work actually09:08
senator32k09:08
senator32i have installed linux-wlan-ng09:09
njansenator32, if you're using hoary, it should pick it up automatically09:09
senator32i am09:09
senator32hmmm09:09
njansenator32, I have a prism2/2.5 card right here which I've just shoved into the machine I'm typing this on (hoary), and it's picked it up straight away09:09
dave__yeh thats what i thought09:09
senator32weird09:09
njansenator32, paste me the output of "ifconfig -a |grep HWaddr"09:09
RRubindave__: what exactly happens?09:09
senator32k09:09
senator32one sec09:09
dave__it dont play09:10
dave__xmms has just crashed09:10
njansenator32, preferably in private if it's >3 lines long09:10
RRubindave__ u switched xmms to use esound outupt plugin?09:10
dave__just siezed up09:10
dave__nope09:10
RRubintry that09:10
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dave__k cheers09:10
senator32its not09:10
senator32eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:D0:59:31:21:9309:10
senator32thats it09:10
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senator32the card is in and i have a constant link and power light09:10
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dave__how can i kill the xmms thats runnign?09:11
wezzer-_killall -9 xmms09:11
SkAnker...09:11
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dave__cheerss09:11
blahrusanyone having issues with  blackdown's java build for amd64?09:11
Mipfidave__:ps -ax look after the proccess id and kill it with kill proccessid09:12
njansenator32, => /msg09:12
blueprismis that apt-get key add09:12
blueprismthing nessary from the guide ?09:12
blueprismwhen adding new repos*09:12
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senator32=> /msg eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:D0:59:31:21:9309:12
senator32sry i dont use irc much09:12
AmaranthHey, the clearlooks developer uses Ubuntu. :)09:12
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njansenator32, no, I meant.. move to the /msg tab which should've opened.. and paste stuff in thre, for the sake of everyone else in #ubuntu ;)09:13
dave__arrr kool that works cheer rrubin09:13
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dave__also when i copy stuff onto my flash drive it appears on there but as soon as i take it off its gone09:13
AmaranthRemenic: Hi.09:13
RRubintake it off?09:13
RemenicAmaranth: hi.09:14
dave__unplug it09:14
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dave__usb pen drive09:14
RRubinoh. prolly write caching09:14
RemenicAmaranth: I still seeeeeeeeeeee you! >:)09:14
dave__how i fix it?09:14
RRubinno clue09:14
dave__doh09:14
djm62dave__: right-click on the icon and select unmount before removing09:14
djm62(from gnome)09:14
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blueprismcould someone explain what this apt-get add - is about ? .. it dosent seem to do anythin other than work with stdin09:14
dave__k ill try that09:15
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milezhello09:15
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Remenicwhen I go into hibernation mode, I get a black screen... it still hibernates and recovers from it, but I get no visual feedback AT ALL when it's hibernating or coming back from it09:15
milezis there a reason that apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade fetch no new packages in the last few days? i'm using hoary09:15
jasonhelo, any know how to configure a wacom tablet in hoary ?? works but i wanna tweak it09:15
dave__how do i get back from hibernate also?09:15
djm62milez: hoary has been released09:15
Remenicdave__: I just turn the machine back on, and then it'll resume automatically after loading the kernel09:16
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djm62milez: only new packages new are security bugfixes09:16
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dave__this is on a laptop and it stays switched on09:16
milezdjm62, so how do i switch to the new 'unstable'?09:16
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milezdoes it have a name? :)09:16
djm62milez: it's called breezy, and I'd give it a couple of weeks to get going...otherwise I think it's on the wiki09:16
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djpany audacity users here? i am having trouble with recording a vocal track alongside anotherr audio track. the vocals sound slow and demonic!09:17
milezdjm62, i see09:17
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ShavnirHey, what do USB drives appear as in /dev?09:17
djm62Shavnir: usually /dev/sdaX09:17
dave__kool the umount thing works will have to remember to do that09:18
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milezdjm62, is kubuntu development done in parallel or in the same trunk?09:18
djm62milez: couldn't tell you09:18
Shavnirdjm62 : What's the filesystem usually used on them?  vfat?09:18
djm62Shavnir: yes09:18
crimsunmilez: in parallel.09:18
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Shavnirdjm62 : Any other random flags I might be forgetting that would prevent this drive from mounting?09:19
crimsunmilez: although yes, the packages are in the same tree.09:19
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djm62Shavnir: it hasn't mounted automatically?09:19
milezcrimsun, so basically i have to switch to breezy to live on the edge again?09:19
crimsunmilez: yup.09:19
crimsunShavnir: sudo modprobe sd_mod09:19
milezwould you advise this action?09:19
Shavnirdjm62 : Not that I can tell09:19
milezfor my desktop laptop09:19
crimsunmilez: no.09:19
milezuh huh09:20
LycoNhow do i change my permission on my floppy so i can write to it?  sudo chown lycon /media/floppy0?09:20
milezthanks.09:20
blahruscrimsun: is it safe to switch to breezy yet?09:20
crimsunblahrus: see two seconds ago.09:20
djm62Shavnir: when you type "mount" it doesn't get mentioned?09:20
Shavnirdjm62 : Nope09:20
blueprismcrimsun you got any knowlegde of the ubuntuguide.org part about adding repositaries .. and at the last part where i have to add a key ???09:20
crimsunShavnir: see one minute ago09:20
blahrusCred: sweet deal09:20
blahrusaklsjdf;09:20
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n3hello again09:20
blahruscrimsun: sweet deal09:20
Shavnircrimsun : Didn't say anything09:20
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crimsunblueprism: I don't know anything about ubuntuguide, sorry. I wrote AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary on the wiki, though.09:21
crimsunShavnir: good. You should be able to access your usb drive now.09:21
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Shavnircrimsun : So its not mentioned in the mount, but the modprobe did something? o.o  I'm confused now.09:21
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BadWolfhello... i'm trying to setup a dhcp server.. but if i want to start it.. i get the following message... No subnet declaration for 192.168.0.1 (0.0.0.0).09:22
BadWolfNo subnet declaration for eth1 (192.168.0.1).09:22
crimsunShavnir: it's a known issue for Breezy, should work for Warty and Hoary, though.09:22
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BadWolfany idea?09:22
Shavnircrimsun : I'm in Hoary.09:22
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crimsunShavnir: then you're one of the few people for which it doesn't work (I'm also one).09:23
Shavnircrimsun : Alrighty then ^_^.  In the meantime I'll burn a CD to move these drivers.09:23
thechitowncubsDoes anyone use gnomemeeting?09:23
searcher`has anyone here seen a hoary update in the last week?09:24
searcher`i've been checking apt for the last couple of days, but nothing yet09:24
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searcher`seems kinda odd09:24
djm62searcher`: hoary is now stable...security bugfixes only09:25
crimsunsearcher`: why is that odd? It's frozen.09:25
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searcher`just wondering09:26
searcher`even warty would have updates now and then09:26
eruinif you want updates09:26
crimsunonly security for Warty.09:26
eruingo breezy ;)09:26
searcher`wondering if my sources.list was allright09:26
searcher`neh09:26
searcher`i like stable09:26
eruinI am, and apart from aspell breakage, it's sweet :)09:26
searcher`i have the security line, so it should be allright09:26
searcher`:-)09:26
crimsunaspell breakage? What sort? Did you file a bug?09:26
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eruincrimsun: yes09:27
superteddoes ubuntu work just as good on amd64 as on x86 ?09:27
djm62I'll go breezy when hoary is noticeably old (which might be when breezy goes gold)09:27
eruincrimsun: undefined symbols09:27
danwolfI am having some HAL problems09:27
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searcher`djm62: i'll go to backports when it gets old09:27
m0ngogood evening... I've mounted a ntfs partition as root... how can I make it possible to read the mounted partition as normal user?09:27
frank__superted: I have had some problems with amd6409:27
crimsunbackports are a BAD idea.09:27
danwolfIt seems that when I login to gnome, occasionally I get an error Failed to initizlize HAL09:28
searcher`crimsun: why?09:28
frank__superted, but I still use it ;)09:28
blahrusfrank__: your not the only one09:28
danwolfanyone have suggestions?09:28
crimsunsearcher`: what happens when you try to dist-upgrade?09:28
djm62searcher`: and remember, predictable release cycle...the final weeks before breezy will probably be uneventful09:28
eruincrimsun: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972809:28
blahrusfrank__: not all ununtu fault by anymeans09:28
blueprismcrimsun hm i am looking at your aarticle on the wiki after i did the recv do i need the gpg --armor ?09:28
eruin"jumped onto a similar bug" more like :P09:28
crimsunsearcher`: if you want new stuff that badly, you should be using the devel branch.09:28
danwolfI have an ASUS cdrw and a Pioneer DVDrom on the same IDE channel09:29
danwolfis that a bad thing?09:29
crimsunblueprism: you'd have to export it in armoured format, yes09:29
frank__blahrus: where should I post bugs about universe packages not working in amd64?09:29
blueprismcrimsun but when i come to the sudo apt-key add -09:29
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blueprismit just hangs and do nothing ?09:29
searcher`crimsun: when you dist-upgrade it all goes to hell when using backports09:29
crimsunfrank__: launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone09:29
supertedfrank__: what kind of problems?09:29
searcher`crimsun: that's why i only use single packages09:29
searcher`say firefox with warty09:30
searcher`luckily, that's a non-issue now with hoary09:30
blahrusfrank__: what packages?09:30
danwolfIs it possible to downgrade from Hoary to Warty?09:30
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crimsundanwolf: possible? yes. Advisable? no.09:30
danwolfhaha09:30
searcher`djm62: the release cycle is one of the things i really like about ubuntu09:30
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danwolfcrimsun: I can't find any way to fix my problem09:31
djm62searcher`: yeah...one of the few bad things about debian09:31
crimsundanwolf: what problem?09:31
frank__superted: its annoying to have to set up a chroot to play flash animations and alot of video files09:31
danwolfcrimsun: so I figured it might be worth a try09:31
frank__blahrus: damn I already forgot the package I was thinking about09:31
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searcher`only thing i noticed about hoary is that my cpu usage goes up to 100% when i copy something09:31
crimsunfrank__: work is progressing on that. One of the Ubuntu developers is working on it.09:31
searcher`dma enabled and all09:32
ShavnirEgads09:32
ShavnirWhy is it so hard to boot into a lower initlevel09:32
crimsunin fact, I believe his MSc thesis is going to be on biarch support.09:32
djm62:)09:32
searcher`although i think they just added another top option for I/O Wait09:32
danwolfcrimsun: I get a failed to initialize hal error when I login to gnome09:32
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crimsundanwolf: have you checked bugzilla?09:32
frank__crimsun: on what? easy chroot?09:32
crimsunShavnir: err what?09:32
danwolfcrimsun: it opnly happens occasionally, and sometimes my system will just freeze09:32
tex_anybody in here install mmplayer on Ubuntu09:32
danwolfcrimsun: I have checked bugzilla, but I cannot find a matching problem09:33
crimsunfrank__: no, biarch support. So you can play your precious Flash games on amd64.09:33
Shavnircrimsun : I need to get out of x.09:33
frank__frank: and for some reason dvdauthor segfaults all the time09:33
danwolfI have found a couple things on google that don't work09:33
crimsunShavnir: runlevels have nothing to do with that. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop09:33
frank__crimsun: its not games I need its movie listing at theatre close by!09:33
crimsunShavnir: Ubuntu, like Debian, does not play runlevel games.09:33
crimsuntex_: yes09:34
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crimsunfrank__: what, walking is too difficult? ;p09:34
danwolfany ideaas crimsun ?09:34
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frank__crimsun: damn right09:34
Shavnircrimsun : Do you know if a standard install of hoary has the kernel source installed?09:34
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crimsundanwolf: not offhand, need more information.09:34
elphi i have the following problem... http://rafb.net/paste/results/6jLZwQ20.html .. how to get my dhcpd to run?09:34
crimsunShavnir: no.09:34
danwolfcrimsun: I think it has something to do with my cdroms09:34
crimsun(it doesn't)09:34
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tex_crimsun: how do you do it and get it to play dvds09:34
crimsuntex_: wiki/RestrictedFormats09:35
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ShavnirOh god, catch 22.09:35
tex_crimsun: thanks09:35
blueprismcrimsun argh well i did something wrong it seems :X anyway to reset this key thing09:35
crimsunShavnir: why?09:35
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danwolfcrimsun: I have a Pioneer DVDrom and a Asus cdrw on the same ide channel and I have another ide channel with a hard drive with winxp on it, and a SARA drive with Ubuntu hoary09:36
Shavnircrimsun : I need to download a precompiled kernel interface to get my ethernet drivers09:36
danwolfcrimsun: SARA = SATA09:36
crimsunShavnir: err, what ethernet drivers?09:36
danwolfcrimsun: it seems that the system only locks up when I am playing music09:37
GhostFreemanwhats the package for JACK server09:37
crimsunGhostFreeman: jackd, in universe.09:37
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stuNNedwhat package controls /etc/resolv.conf?  i can't get it to write the nameservers there each time i connect09:37
kippiis there away i can ping a ip and a port number?09:37
Shavnircrimsun : The one that lets me use the ethernet ports on my motherboard.09:37
crimsunstuNNed: there's no one package that does.09:37
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GhostFreemanI dont know why but muse keeps telling me JACK server isnt running09:37
crimsunShavnir: and your network chipset is...?09:37
crimsunGhostFreeman: pgrep jackd09:38
Shavnircrimsun : I'm borrowing a more standard network card for a sec09:38
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stuNNedcrimsun: i messed it up somehow is there a way to reset?  when i run dhclient it doesn't write the nameservers09:38
Shavnircrimsun : All I know off the top of my head is that its onboard powered by the nForce4 as far as I know09:38
GhostFreemanok thanks09:38
stuNNedcrimsun: i was helping troubleshoot the wireless network at school and installed pump and other junk09:38
danwolfcrimsun: any help?09:38
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tex_http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats   doesn't exist09:39
ratiushelloe guys, i wanted to know, is there a way to change a package usable only by root so it can be usable by user too?09:40
crimsunShavnir: you can use ndiswrapper if you have an .inf09:40
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crimsuntex_: yes it does.09:40
Pluktex_, it does here09:40
mikeco it exists here in the twilight zone too09:41
crimsundanwolf: sorry, let me scroll up09:41
mikecodun dun dun09:41
danwolfok heh09:41
stuNNedcrimsun: how to fix my /etc/resolv.conf so that it writes nameservers when using dhclint? :(09:41
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danwolfhow do I scroll up using irssi anyway?09:41
crimsunpage-up09:41
crimsunpretty intuitive, eh?09:41
danwolfjesus09:41
edcok in slackware to install a package the line is installpkg package.tgz , what's the command in ubuntu to install a .deb package?09:41
danwolfim an idiot09:41
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danwolfthanks crimsun09:41
Plukedc, dpkg -i package.deb09:41
mikecohaha09:41
crimsunstuNNed: you're not invoking dhclient manually, are you?09:42
danwolfnow for my other problem ;)09:42
mikecoyou left slackware too?09:42
edcPluk, : thanks much09:42
Plukyw09:42
Shavnircrimsun : I have a diffrent card in now.  Its got a NC100 in it now.09:42
LycoNWhen i typed sudo lilo i get this error: Name change: '/dev/dm-0' -> '/dev/evms/hda1'09:42
edcslackware aint 64 bit09:42
danwolftex_: that link works here too09:42
mikeconope, it is not09:42
crimsundanwolf: we'd need to see dmesg and lspci -v output09:42
edcbut it took me about 8 hrs of hacking @ ubuntu to get it to run09:42
mikecoi still have it installed, may boot it in vmware or whatnot09:42
danwolfcrimsun: want me to pm it to ya?09:42
edchad to redo initrd and the kernel09:42
edcgonna submit a huge bug report soon as a make a fix09:42
edclilo didnt install either09:42
mikecomine worked well09:42
crimsundanwolf: it's better as a bug report on bugzilla, or use pastebin.com09:43
stuNNedcrimsun: yes09:43
cikilinhow i check that i am behind a router?09:43
stuNNedcrimsun: i am invoking dhclient manually09:43
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edcok, also, how the hell do i get rid of this damn qui so it doesnt start by default, cat find the rc script for it09:43
Jefiscan anyone tell me great audio editor09:43
crimsunstuNNed: err, why?09:43
crimsunstuNNed: the instance in /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work?09:43
mikecogui?09:44
stuNNedcrimsun: what is that?09:44
crimsunJefis: ecasound, audacity, ...09:44
ShavnirOkay, how do I set this bloody ethernet card up?09:44
crimsunstuNNed: that's the actual file.09:44
stuNNedcrimsun: ok09:44
LycoNHow can i disahle EVMS?09:44
crimsunShavnir: do you have an .inf?09:44
cikilinhow i check that i am behind a router?09:44
Shavnircrimsun : No, not handy.  It seems to have recognized this device though.09:44
tex_Ok, I'm totally new to this.. looks like I need xine first. How do I install it?09:45
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crimsuncikilin: ip a show dev eth0|grep inet09:45
tex_"I just want to play a DVD09:45
mikecoapt-get install xine-iu09:45
crimsuntex_: enable marillat, install w32codecs, enable multiverse, install mplayer for your $arch09:45
mikecoyou'll need that09:46
mikecotoo09:46
LycoNName change: '/dev/dm-0' -> '/dev/evms/hda1'.  how do i fix that error09:46
edcok aint gcc installed by default?09:46
tex_crimsun: - the restrictedformats wiki is saying xine will do this.. do I really need mplayer?09:46
edcmplayer is better than xine09:47
crimsuntex_: I thought you _wanted_ mplayer09:47
tex_crimsun: - well, I just want whatever will allow me to play a dvd. Someone told me mplayer, but the wiki refers to xine. Either is fine by me :)09:47
edcalso win32 windows reverse engineered propriety codecs aint installed on most linux distrobutions so that copyrights aint violated09:47
cikilincrisum: so is a router?09:47
cikilinif i have that?09:48
edctex_, : mplayer is better.. trust me its worth the hassle09:48
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LycoNis it safe to disable EVMS?09:48
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crimsuncikilin: if you have what?09:48
blueprismcrimsun hehe doh i figured it out now it all works sorry for the bothering09:48
tex_ok so.. apt-get install mplayer then?09:48
cikilineth009:48
LycoNtex09:48
Jefisthere is mplayer??????09:48
LycoNwww.ubuntuguide.org09:49
LycoNfollow step by step09:49
LycoNso easy09:49
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cikilincrisum:how i check?09:49
linuxbcnhi all09:49
crimsuncikilin: I gave you a command to run, remember? :)09:49
danwolfcrimsun: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986409:50
cikilinaha09:50
danwolfcrimsun: can you read that?09:50
cikilini type that09:50
ShavnirOkay, so since my onboard LAN dosen't seem to want to work I've resorted to a terciary ethernet card.  Its an amazingly standard chipset, and I think Ubuntu recognized it.  What next?09:50
crimsundanwolf: looking09:50
cikilincrisum: and now?09:50
edcam so gonna screw this system up09:51
danwolfcrimsun: thanks09:51
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edcdpkg -i -R muhahahhaha09:51
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cikilincrisum:inet 10.9.25.17/16 brd 10.9.255.255 scope global eth009:51
cikilin    inet6 fe80::250:22ff:fee5:2f62/64 scope link09:51
edcok but why aint development software included? i want to make a kernel and no ncurses no gcc installed by default?09:51
cwarnerdo all releases of ubuntu come with the mic volume turned down?09:51
cuscocikilin: your ip belongs to a internal network09:51
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cuscomight or not be a router09:51
fazerhmm...so all is well09:52
LycoNHOW to you disable EVMS... Please Help09:52
edcShavnir, : ifconfig eth0 up 192.168.0.109:52
cikilink09:52
Shavniredc : Worked with a sudo09:52
edcroute add default gw ppp <-- might be very wrong09:52
crimsundanwolf: your hdd gave some errors09:53
edcam so so gonna submit around 10mb of bug reports by teusday09:53
danwolfyeah09:53
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danwolfcrimsun: I see tha09:53
tex_LycoN: - ok, guide is telling me to comment-out the marillat repositories.. thought I needed that for encrypted dvd playback?09:53
crimsundanwolf: disconnect hdd and see if you can reproduce the symptoms09:53
cuscocikilin: try to go on http://10.9.255.255 (or whatever default gateway your ip is) if yoi get a webpage asking password then it should be a router09:53
Shavniredc : What next?09:53
lsuactiafnerping something09:53
lsuactiafnerwhy did you want the eth0 up to start with?09:54
cikilincusco: it sais that refused09:54
crimsunlsuactiafner: Ubuntu is a _desktop_ distro. We don't install development tools by default in a desktop environment.09:54
Shavnir?.?09:54
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crimsunlsuactiafner: if you want them, install build-essential and go from there.09:54
cikilincusco:The connection was refused when attempting to contact 10.9.255.255.09:54
danwolfcrimsun: I have tried that, and it works kinda, but then my computer locks up more often, and I need to fix the DVD player, not just take it out09:54
lsuactiafnercrimsun, : so there is like no way ppl can compile programs easily without resorting to hacking tactics..09:54
cuscocikilin: put the ip of your default gateway instead09:55
lsuactiafnerShavnir, : ping google.co.za09:55
mikecouh09:55
crimsundanwolf: does the dvd drive work in $anotherOS?09:55
mikecoyeah, you can compile things by installing the dev tools09:55
danwolfyes, windows09:55
Shavnirlsuactiafner : ping to google.com gave me "unknown host: google.com"09:55
crimsunlsuactiafner: not "hacking tactics". It's clearly outlined.09:55
danwolfcrimsun: yes windows09:55
lsuactiafnercrimsun, : there should be an option under expert install to install development software09:55
cikilincusco is verry dif. to me :i am a beginer09:55
mikecoor just install them yourself09:55
lsuactiafnercrimsun, : well i installed using expert mode and nowhere was an option telling me gcc wont be installed...09:55
cwarnerlsuactiafner, whats so hard with installing it yourself?09:56
crimsunlsuactiafner: file a bug then, but keep in mind that if you're in need of them, you probably know where to ask to find out how to install build-essential09:56
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lsuactiafnerok tell me about build-essential, since i just did cd main/pool/ and dpkg -i -R09:56
crimsunoh. my. god.09:57
tevaumhup!09:57
lsuactiafnerthat might have been the wrong move..09:57
mikecouh09:57
mikecoapt-get install build-essential.09:57
mikecomy dog could do it, i think09:57
cwarnerI just used synaptic to install gcc09:57
crimsunlsuactiafner: yeah, don't dpkg -i -R09:57
cwarnerit worked fine09:57
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crimsunlsuactiafner: use Synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, or dselect to install build-essential09:57
pepsicd /etc09:58
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lsuactiafnermikeco, : i use slackware, would be logical if someone used debian09:58
nickrudI'm trying to help someone get his xp and ubuntu installs booting together, but he has some evms stuff running.09:58
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nickrudI know nothing about that, can someone help09:58
cuscocikilin: type: route09:58
cikilink09:58
danwolfany more ideas crimsun ?09:58
mikecoi use slackware09:58
ShavnirSo, uh, my ethernet card can't find google.com.  This is a problem.09:58
slask3nwhat is bonobo-activation-server?09:59
crimsunnickrud: is the evms structure disrupting something?09:59
cwarnerheh09:59
cikilindone09:59
mikecoi have since the about oh, 199409:59
crimsunShavnir: is it configured correctly?09:59
cuscocikilin: the default gateway ip09:59
jazonhi - I am getting a strange error - I thought I had it figured out, but then I got this.  My problem is that I have no TV-output - it is scrambled.  I know now that it is because it set to PAL, but I can't change it.  I go to ATI control in KDE and I get the following error:09:59
nickrudhaven't a clue, I've never used it, so I don't know where to begin09:59
Shavnircrimsun : How in god's name am I supposed to figure that out :P09:59
cuscocikilin: what is it?09:59
crimsundanwolf: no, but fill out some more info for that bug report.09:59
lsuactiafnerroute -n09:59
cikilinis a *09:59
cuscocikilin: and under it09:59
danwolfmore info?09:59
cuscowhat is there09:59
crimsunnickrud: then don't worry about it.09:59
danwolfcrimsun: more info09:59
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crimsunnickrud: if it works, leave it alone.09:59
cikilin10.9.0.110:00
jazonFire GL Control.  Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 extensions! Panel components will operate only partially.10:00
cuscoon the default line10:00
cwarnerjazon, thats a driver issue you need to find the appropriate documentation for ati10:00
cwarnerjazon, s/for/from ati10:00
crimsunShavnir: dmesg|grep eth010:00
danwolfcrimsun: what info?10:00
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jazoncwarner, what is s/for/from ati10:00
lsuactiafnerroute add default gw 192.168.0.1 eth1 | ok make the ip:192.168.0.1 into the ip of the machine connected to the lan10:00
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tex_Ok, the guide isn't working.. apt-get install mplayer-386 dies without installing anything.10:00
Shavnircrimsun : eth0: forcedeth.c: subsystem: 01458:e000 bound to 0000:00:0a.010:01
cikilincusco:and now?10:01
cuscocikilin: just put that ip on the web browser... if it asks password chances are that you have a router10:01
crimsundanwolf: describe your problem, what it does properly in Windows, what it doesn't do in Ubuntu, etc.10:01
Shavnircrimsun : eth0: no link during initilization10:01
cwarnerjazon, you need to find the appropriate documentation from ati on how their binary driver works and what the appropriate config options would be for x1110:01
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lsuactiafneredit /etc/resolv.conf with     nameserver ip_of_pc_conencted_to_net10:01
crimsundanwolf: in other words, make it easy for us to help you :)10:01
tex_also, my sources.list doesn't have the lines mentioned in the guide.10:01
jazonwhat is x11 ?10:01
LycoNtex10:01
crimsunShavnir: ...so is a cat5e plugged in?10:01
lsuactiafneralso type ifconfig eth0 to check if eth0 is up10:01
Shavnircrimsun : Yes, lights a-blinkin'.10:01
LycoNtex: click on extra repositories10:01
tex_LycoN: ?10:01
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cwarnersigh.. heh10:01
slask3nwhat is bonobo-activation-server under processes in system monitor?10:02
crimsunShavnir: did you edit /etc/network/interfaces?10:02
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LycoNtex:  then click on the sample10:02
cikilincusco is opening a link10:02
Shavnircrimsun : Well, I guess my linux telepathy was a bi toff.  I'll go look in there now10:02
LycoNtex: make that ur sources.lst10:02
danwolfcrimsun: well, I don't know what other infor you might need10:02
crimsundanwolf: I just told you...10:02
cuscocikilin: well you have a router then.. wasn't that what you wanted to know?10:02
lsuactiafneromg i screwed this pc up rofl10:02
danwolfcrimsun: you did?10:02
cikilink10:02
crimsundanwolf: remember, this is a bug report, so it needs to be as detailed as possible.10:02
lsuactiafneram so so gonna have to start over10:02
crimsundanwolf: see 2 minutes ago10:03
danwolfoh I see10:03
cwarnerjazon, https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=2710:03
Shavnircrimsun : That file only has two lines, both comments if I'm guesing that's what the # before them means10:04
IRCMarkhi, I need help. Can someone tell me what "acpi=off apm=off" means? what happens if i write acpi=on? and what happens if I write apm=on? what do you suggest me yo do? I hve  laptop and I want to improve the battery time...10:04
cikilin10x cusco10:04
crimsunShavnir: then you need both lo and eth0 blocks10:04
crimsunShavnir: join #flood10:04
lsuactiafnercrimsun : in your experience, do you think the system will be fscked by dpkg -i -R ?10:04
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lsuactiafneror should it still happily run afterwards?10:04
Shavnircrimsun : Alrighty, I'm there10:04
cwarnerIRCMark, apci and apm are power management modules.. for a laptop you'll most likely want to have one or the other turned on10:04
jazoncwarner, thanx......10:05
cwarnerIRCMark, here is the specification http://www.acpi.info/10:05
IRCMarkwhich one do I have to turn on?10:05
cwarneri'd recommend trying acpi by itself first10:05
crimsunShavnir: afterward, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart10:05
IRCMarkok10:05
Shavniroka10:05
cwarnersee if that meets your needs there is an interface for linux you could probably read somewhere.. search google10:06
crimsunlsuactiafner: dpkg -i -R is a bad thing.10:06
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cwarnerapm in the main scheme of things is pretty much deprecated.. anyway10:06
tex_lycon - ok, made it this far: sudo: apt-key: command not found10:06
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Shavnircrimsun : Its taking a while.  Is that normal?10:06
cwarnerI just came here to find out where I can bitch about a minor issue? :) anyone?10:06
pepsihow do i get the debian menu back?10:06
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Hitchhiker90hi10:06
lsuactiafnerlol10:07
crimsunpepsi: are menu and menu-xdg installed?10:07
lsuactiafnerrofl10:07
Shavnirah, there it went10:07
crimsuncwarner: depends.10:07
pepsicrimsun, yes10:07
Hitchhiker90How can I see a list of applications/programs that I have installed using apt-get or apt-cache?10:07
danwolfcrimsun: ok, I don't know what else I can say10:07
Shavnircrimsun : Finished.  Pinging google still gives me unknown host10:07
lsuactiafneri think resolving doesnt work10:07
danwolfcrimsun: I put down all I knew10:07
crimsunShavnir: ip a show eth0 |grep inet10:07
lsuactiafner edit /etc/resolv.conf10:08
slask3ndoes anyone know what bonobo-activation-server under processes in system monitor is? and can i stop this without regretting anything?10:08
djm62Hitchhiker90: you really want to see them all?10:08
Shavnircrimsun : Nothin'10:08
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cwarnerwell i'm sure this is a bug in another distro and it probably is a nitpick.. we had a user complain that an app wasn't working with ubuntu.. specifically gnomemeeting.. it turns out that the volume for his input (mic) in this case was completely turned off10:08
crimsunslask3n: it's necessary, don't mess with it.10:08
danwolfhttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986410:08
danwolfcrimsun: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986410:08
Hitchhiker90djm62, no, I'm going to pipe the list into a | grep -i command, but just need the general command to list them all10:09
crimsundanwolf: yes, I see. Someone will respond.10:09
djm62Hitchhiker90: dpkg -l10:09
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crimsunpepsi: how did it "disappear"?10:09
danwolfcrimsun: thanks10:09
pepsicrimsun, im not sure10:09
Hitchhiker90djm62, that worked like a champ, thank you!10:09
lsuactiafnercrimsun : you from south-africa?10:09
crimsunlsuactiafner: no, I'm from the USA.10:10
jazon<sigh>  I think I'm goin back to win xp mce10:10
cwarnerjazon, you should..10:10
jnkslask3n, "man bonobo-activation-server"10:10
danwolfjazon: fuckoff winxp10:10
jazonI have spent about 150 hours trying to make this box work, and i just don't think it's going to be worth it....10:10
djm62Hitchhiker90: you can also use dpkg to search through installed packages, btw10:10
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crimsundanwolf: language.10:10
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Hitchhiker90cool beans10:10
danwolfcrimsun: oh sorry10:10
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cwarnerjazon, if it doesn't work.. go back to win xp..10:10
djpcan anybody help me with an audacity question?10:10
GarathorIs there any way i can use ISO8859-1 in aterm?10:10
cwarnerjazon, you have to use what works for you right??10:11
jnkHitchhiker90, dpkg --get-selections  (dpkg -l truncates the names of the packages I think)10:11
djm62Hitchhiker90: I realise this is probably a once-or-twice task, but just in case you have to do it refularly10:11
jazonIts an HP m1080n Media Center - lots of cutting edge type of hardware....10:11
tex_Ok, if apt-key doesn't exist... I need to ____?10:11
crimsuntex_: are you using Hoary?10:11
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tex_Warty10:11
jazoncwarner, yeah, but it sucks.  I REALLY like ubuntu10:11
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crimsuntex_: that's why it doesn't.10:11
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jnkHitchhiker90, if you want the names only, you can do "dpkg --get-selections |  cut -f 1"10:11
cwarnerjazon, ati video cards aren't cutting edge at least not in the context of linux10:11
crimsuntex_: it doesn't apply to you.10:11
regeyareally, it's rude to go about saying "whelp, guess I'm going back to WinXP" as a means of getting help.10:11
tex_crimsun: thanks10:11
GUISlavejazon- why not dual boot?10:11
regeyatrolling-as-attention-getter == rude10:12
jazoncwarner, the pci-e technology is new.10:12
cwarnerjazon, not for linux10:12
djm62jazon: if the hardware won't work without serious love....it's only economic to stay on another platform10:12
kev__i've got some serious problems with my desktop's wireless card (dlink dwc-520 rev e) and using hostap with ubuntu 5.04. anyone familiar with it, building kernels, etc?10:12
Hitchhiker90alrighty10:12
djpi appear to only be able to record a vocal track with an audio track if i select stereo. in mono the audio sounds correct but the vocals sound slow and inaudiable10:12
jazonGUISlave, yeah, I've thought of that.... but... i was really hoping to get mythTV working.  We use the computer a LOT in that regards10:12
crimsunShavnir: double-check the network cable10:12
tex_crimsun: - what about the part of the guide that tells me to comment out the lines for the marillat ftp?10:13
cwarnerjazon, there is probably nothing in that machine linux can't currently handle.. not even your video card10:13
Shavnircrimsun : It hasn't been touched since this machine was working in Windows yesterday.10:13
crimsuntex_: I don't know anything about ubuntuguide, sorry.10:13
tex_I see10:13
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jazonwell...... what about usr 5420 USB wifi10:13
jazonor the tv card10:13
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jazonor the philips ir remote control10:14
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kev__anyone successful with getting kernel module hostap and hostap_pci to build?10:14
jazonor the i915P intel High Def audio10:14
cwarnerjazon, nope nope and nope10:14
crimsunand nope.10:14
crimsunthough if you're resourceful, the i915 does work.10:14
jazonyeah, i have that working.... ;) (mostly10:14
tex_crimsun: - still bombing with multiple errors on apt-get install mplayer-38610:14
cwarneri'm sure you could get the tv card and ir remote control working those don't sound special to me10:15
crimsuntex_: Warty?10:15
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jazonthat and i also have an HP jornada that i use a lot10:15
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cwarnerthe usb wifi i'm not sure i haven't been really following usb kernel stuff10:15
jazonalso a panasonic D-Snap SD video camera10:15
tex_crimsun: - afaik it's warty warthog. How can I verify this..?10:15
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crimsuntex_: you need my repo. deb http://sh.nu/~crimsun/ ./10:15
jazonit uses proprietary s/w and codecs (i learn NOW)10:15
Nermaltex_: comment out unstable and testing ?10:16
sjmorgancan somebody please help me to get my usb keyboard working?10:16
crimsuntex_: what cpu?10:16
kev__anyone familiar with building kernels that can help me for a bit? i'm new to the devian world -- but have 5+ years experience with mdk.10:16
jazoncan you serve a web page with windows like you can with linux?10:16
sjmorganmy ps2 one broke so i plugged this one in, reconfigured X but it still doesn't work at all10:16
cwarnerjazon, well thats not good.. one could reverse engineer that stuff but its 2005.. why waste the time10:16
Nermalkev__: why do you need to ?10:16
tex_crimsun: - P410:16
jazonthats really a nice feature10:16
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crimsunkev__: you don't need kernel source, you need linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build-essential10:16
djm62jazon: yeah, you can run apache on windows, even (I think)10:16
jazon<sigh>10:16
ShavnirI'm gonna grab some lunch.10:16
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jazonwell, i hafta go do the dad thing.... thanks guys - ttyl10:17
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kev__nerma / crimsun: i've got a (shitty) wireless nic (dlink dwc-520 rev e1) that only works using hostap. but ubunto 504 doesnt ship the hostap modules. so i've go the hostap source and am trying to build the module from it. however, it complains that it can't find the kernel's .config.10:17
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slappy16rerun make config10:18
frank__What do you amd64 people use as a versatile media player?  VLC  is the best I found yet by far.10:18
kev__nerma / crimson: i'd rather not rebuild a kernel (unless i have to) as the one shipped works just great. so i need the corresponding .config that was used to build the shipped kernel. can you tell me where to get it?10:18
tex_and this line is disturbing me..  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-13ubuntu2 is to be installed10:18
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lsuactiafnerkev__, : one shipped is never as good as a custum hardware specific kernel10:19
crimsunkev__: you don't need kernel source. Read what I said above...10:19
djpany audacity users here?10:19
cwarnerwhy would one need the source? you just need the headers to compile a module10:19
kev__crimsum: so remove the linux-source packages, then install linux-headers-... and build-essential?10:20
darGoranyone knows how to install the bar ( i saw it in too much screenshots on web) which shows me hd info, memory info, users connected etc... ???10:20
eruindarGor: that's probably gdesklets10:20
crimsunkev__: it's not necessary to remove linux-source-2.6.10, but you do need to install build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r)10:20
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kev__crimsum: great, thanks. i'll  try it right now...10:20
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fazercrimsun: remarkably, i was able to get my sound working!10:21
djm62darGor: I suspect you want gkrellm10:21
whendrikIs it correct is recieve no updates for the last 4 days??10:21
fazercrimsun: and... i don't even know wtf I did!10:21
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djm62whendrik: yes, hoary is frozen10:21
lsuactiafner>> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.10:21
whendrikWhere can i read more about that?10:21
crimsuntex_: apt-get install mplayer-586=1.0-pre6a-0.010:22
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whendrikjust started to like it10:22
darGordjm62: mm the bar which shows me total info of computer, partitions ,etc etc10:22
lsuactiafnerand apt-get install build-essential depends on the generic kernel which doesnt boot correctly.10:22
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crimsunwhendrik: Hoary receives no updates except for security.10:22
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lsuactiafnercrimsun, : mplayer pre7 is out10:22
crimsunlsuactiafner: um10:22
darGoreruin: gdesklets is only for desktopp themes, right ??10:22
Zugothow do you backup your home directory?10:22
crimsunlsuactiafner: 1) that's great, but I didn't backport pre7, I backported 6a.10:22
crimsunlsuactiafner: 2) build-essential has nothing to do with a kernel image10:23
fazerwhat's the difference between mplayer and vlc?10:23
lsuactiafnerZugot : tar -jcfv backup.tar.bz2 /home/user10:23
Zugotinteresting10:23
Zugoti'm using rar10:23
lsuactiafnermplayer is the most popular player.. therefore the best.10:23
crimsunfazer: two different players10:23
lsuactiafnerbz2 compression is beter10:23
Zugotmy backup harddrive is formatted as fat so i can use it in windows10:23
lsuactiafnercrimsun : it does..10:24
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crimsunlsuactiafner: stop making ill-informed comments, please.10:24
Zugotcompression is cool...  but fat has a 2GB file limit10:24
Zugotand i'm not running compression10:24
Zugoti think i'm going to rebuild my laptop and use lvm10:24
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fazercrimsun: any difference performance-wise?10:25
eruinZugot: use fat3210:25
crimsunfazer: no idea10:25
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SirFredHi.10:25
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Zugoteruin: isn't fat32 still limited by 2GB files?10:25
tex_crimsum - ok, that was as close as I've gotten so far. Single error is: mplayer-586: Depends: libpostproc0 (>= 0.90rc4) but it is not going to be installed10:25
fazercrimsun: ah, btw, how do I take a screenshot in xfce? or do i launch the gnome screenshot taker?10:25
resiakscrot!10:25
SirFredI've seen that there were no updates to hoary in some days.10:25
crimsunSirFred: that's correct. There are no updates.10:25
crimsunSirFred: it's frozen, aka stable.10:26
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SirFredHumm, stable.10:26
Zugot /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat10:26
ZugotSirFred: you can always move to breezy10:26
SirFredcrimsun: I suppose there're bugs around .10:26
crimsunSirFred: there are always bugs.10:26
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Zugoti wish ndiswrapper would stop crapping out10:26
SirFredcrimsun: They' ll never go10:26
SirFredOops10:26
SirFredcrimsun: They'll never get fixed on hoary?10:26
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ailleantsian_i wish ndiswrapper would at least work for me10:26
spiderwormSirFred:10:27
crimsunSirFred: only security and major fixes that don't kill other things.10:27
john_uexit10:27
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SirFredOK.10:27
spiderwormSirFred: theyll be fixed in the other releases10:27
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thechitowncubshow can i install kernel headers for hoary?10:27
SirFredIs there any roadmap or something similar to Breezy ?10:27
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crimsunfazer: any number of ways. I prefer ,,import'' from imagemagick10:27
SirFredIs there any roadmap or something similar for Breezy ?10:27
slask3nhow do i exit manpages in console?10:28
crimsunSirFred: not yet, UDU is coming up10:28
beggar"q"10:28
fazercrimsun: aah... does it save in a png or jpeg?10:28
SirFredcrimsun: What UDU means?10:28
slask3nthanks :)10:28
crimsunfazer: whatever extension you specify10:28
crimsunSirFred: Ubuntu Down Under, aka the developers' conference.10:28
pepsicrimsun, running update-menus and relogging in fixed it10:28
fazercrimsun: oh thanks10:28
crimsunpepsi: ok.10:29
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kev__given a file, how can i determine which deb it belongs to?10:29
tex_crimsun: - sorry to keep pestering you with this.. did you see my last line about the libpostproc0 error?10:29
SirFredcrimsun: Thanks a lot.10:29
jnkkev__,  dpkg -S file10:29
crimsunkev__: dpkg -S somefile, or use packages.ubuntu.com10:29
fazercrimsun: I am guessing that imagemagik isn't installed?10:29
thechitowncubswhat is the package for kernel headers?10:29
cuscoI installed unrar from apt.. but I don't know how to use it... how do I extract a .rar file?10:29
crimsunthechitowncubs: linux-headers-$(uname -r)10:29
ailleantsian_is there anyway to forse ubuntu to see a device ?10:29
tex_cusco: - unrar x filename.rar10:29
jnkcusco, unrar or unrar-nonfree ?10:29
cuscojnk: unrar10:29
jnkailleantsian, what do you mean10:30
lsuactiafnerok, ncurses-devel is needed to make menuconfig10:30
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ailleantsian_well it wont detect my wlan card10:30
crimsuntex_: do you have debian-marillat enabled, too?10:30
Anubisso my ubuntu won't boot up all the way if it can't sync with the ubuntu ntp server?10:30
tex_crimsun: - pretty sure, I'll check..10:30
AnubisSeems odd no?10:30
crimsunAnubis: sure it will boot10:30
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tex_crimsun: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main10:31
Anubiscrimsun, trust me, it reboto once it can't reach the server10:31
tex_as well as stable main and testing main10:31
Anubisthus no desktop10:31
Anubisuntil it can10:31
jnkcusco, then it's "unrar file" or "unrar -x file"10:31
djm62Anubis: it could take time...10:31
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Anubisit REBOOTS my machine10:31
Anubisit takes no time10:31
jnkcusco, but you need unrar-nonfree to unrar recent rar files (I think)10:31
djpany audacity users here tonight?10:31
Anubisit just loops10:31
Anubisand loops10:31
spiderwormwhere can i download individual breezy packages?10:31
Anubisand loops10:31
crimsundjp: please ask in audacity's irc channel.10:31
Anubisuntil the network comes back10:32
crimsunspiderworm: archive.ubuntu.com. It's not recommended10:32
djm62Anubis: why do you think it's ntp?10:32
spiderwormcrimsun: i just want an updated scorched3d binary :)\10:32
Anubisbecause at that point it reboots10:32
Anubisand once it can reach the server10:32
crimsunspiderworm: bad idea.10:32
Dekkardany beagle gurus?10:32
Anubisit ten goes on to start gdm and so on10:32
spiderwormcrimsun: why's that?10:32
AmaranthAnubis: If it can't reach the ntp server it sits for 40 seconds waiting for a timeout then continues booting. If your machine is doing something else (without you touching anything) file a bug report.10:32
djpcrimsun: sorry, didn't realise there was one! is it on freenode #audacity?10:32
crimsunspiderworm: it's built with a new toolchain.10:32
spiderwormoh10:32
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stuntgp2000hello everyone10:33
AnubisAmaranth, yeah. mine is doing something else10:33
crimsunspiderworm: you may as well just dist-upgrade to Breezy.10:33
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Anubisits not waiting and then continuing10:33
spiderwormweeeelll mebbe i'll just compile from source10:33
Anubisa bug report10:33
Anubisugh I hate that answer10:33
spiderwormcrimsun: dist-upgrade to breezy?  is that safe?10:34
crimsunspiderworm: sure10:34
fazerhmm10:34
Anubishitting the ubuntu ntp server is really unnessacary no?10:34
crimsunspiderworm: safe? yes. recommended? not now.10:34
fazerwhats better than gaim?10:34
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crimsuntex_: what error?10:34
sigfazer: a glass of beer10:34
fazersig: but...seriously...10:34
spiderwormcrimsun: thanx for the advice, i'll compile it from source i suppose10:34
signothing IMO10:34
djm62fazer: gaim is pretty much the best10:34
tex_crimsun: mplayer-586: Depends: libpostproc0 (>= 0.90rc4) but it is not going to be installed10:34
crimsunAnubis: not unnecessary but good practise.10:34
Zugotwhat kernel is everyone running?10:34
crimsun2.6.10-3410:35
stuntgp2000I am new to Ubuntu & Linux, I've just knew that Firefox 1.0.3 is out, I need to install it, please can anyone help me in doing that ?10:35
fazerdjm62: damn, it sucks =( you can't set your avatars though =/10:35
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beggarcan i resize my / partition without losing data?10:35
crimsunstuntgp2000: you _need_ to install it or you _want_ to install it/10:35
djm62fazer: you can...10:35
Zugotbeggar: most likely not10:35
sigbeggar: yes10:35
fazerdjm62: oh...how?!10:35
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djm62fazer: if avatar is what I think it is10:35
beggarso....?10:35
Anubiswhere is the bug report tool?10:35
Marble2how come I keep getting this?10:35
Marble2greg@Greg:/files $ sudo chown greg:greg /files/torrents10:35
Marble2chown: changing ownership of `/files/torrents': Operation not permitted10:35
Anubisthought there was one in gnome?10:35
sigbeggar: http://ubuntuguide.org/#gparted10:35
beggaryes..no?10:35
beggartks sig10:36
zerokarmaleftMarble2, add -R10:36
sigbeggar: yes10:36
sigread that link10:36
upsstuntgp2000: you don't really need it, some of the security fixes of .3 are already in the ubuntu firefox, and if there are some which aren't, they will be soon10:36
fazerdjm62: yeah, that picture thingy beside the icon..10:36
siginstall gparted and do it10:36
Marble2thanks10:36
beggaryes..i've gparted ...but... i have to unmount?...10:36
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isameverytime I install a new kernel, grub looses my settings, and rebuild menu.lst .. is there a way to have certain entries persistent, and not have new kernel installation flush my settings and entries10:36
Marble2zerokarmaleft: tried that, didn't work10:36
blueprismanyone has any suggestion for a msn client these days10:36
spiderwormcrimsun: crazy idea, you think i could download the debian binary from the scorched3d website and install it on ubuntu 5.04?  would that work?10:36
stuntgp2000thanks for the clarification10:36
djm62fazer: you want to change yours, or that of the people on your buddy list?10:36
crimsunspiderworm: possibly, but I don't know.10:37
fazerdjm62: change mine10:37
tex_crimsun - did you see that error message?10:37
crimsunstuntgp2000: wait for a security update.10:37
djm62fazer: in your account information it's called "buddy icon" and you can load it from a file10:37
crimsuntex_: yes, I'm extremely busy. Please be patient.10:37
tex_I see that. Thank you...10:37
fazerdjm62: ah, awesome10:37
kev__is there an yeasy way to add new mime types to gnome/evolution?10:37
IRCMarkhi, I have a problem. When I try to shut down my laptop the words "Shutting Down LVM Volume Groups" appear on the screen and suddenly teh screen becomes black and nothing more happens. The only thing that I can do I to shut down my laptop form the power button. How can I solve this problem?10:37
tex_ubuntu has gained popularity quickly ;)10:37
beggarsig, how can i resize my root partition without unmounting?10:38
zerokarmaleftMarble2, sudo chown -R greg:greg /files/torrents?10:38
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zerokarmaleftMarble2, is /files/torrents/ the full path?10:38
djm62fazer: now you see...gaim _is_ the best ;)10:38
fazerdjm62: checking if it does it for the MSN ;)10:38
slappy16why lvm on a laptop?10:38
djm62it does (I use it)10:38
fazerdjm62: AWESOME10:38
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Marble2zerokarmaleft: ye10:39
IRCMarkslappy16: I don't know why10:39
Marble2it's the full path10:39
stuntgp2000but can you tell how can it be installed, because I need to apply its method of installation on other apps10:39
Marble2and that was the command10:39
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martinhello, my amaroK won't work with any of the soundsystems.. does everyone a solution?10:39
djm62martin: are you on KDE?10:39
thechitowncubsI was wondering how to get amarok to work with gnome also10:39
pepsii installed the eagle package, pcb layout tool.. it installed without a problem, but when i try to run it, it says i need libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.310:39
Zugotbeggar: i still don't believe you will be able to shrink your / even with gparted...10:40
upsstuntgp2000: what do u mean u want to apply its method on other apps?10:40
crimsuntex_: try changing the debian-marillat reference from stable to testing10:40
pepsiinstalling the libstdc++6 package didnt help10:40
slappy16if you dont need it, just remove it from whichever runlevel you boot into10:40
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fazerdfdu10:40
IRCMarkslappy16: so, what do I have to do?10:41
crimsunpepsi: that's because that's the wrong package.10:41
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IRCMarkslappy16: from which file?10:41
crimsunpepsi: you want libstdc++2.10-glibc2.210:41
beggarZugot, and with a external partition tool ?10:41
danwolfcrimsun: hey, just figured out that when I get the error Failed to initialize hal when logging into gnome, if I killall dbus-daemon-1, I can at least get into gnome10:41
slappy16is there rcconf, or you can find out your runlevel with cat /etc/inittab10:41
djm62thechitowncubs: amarok-gstreamer might help you10:41
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zerokarmaleftMarble2, not sure what could be causing the failure, that's a pretty simple operation10:41
slappy16id:3:initdefault:  look for a line like that, the number will be your runlevel10:42
stuntgp2000I mean if I know how to install firefox which i've downloaded from Mozilla site, I can do the same for Gaim10:42
IRCMark#ubuntu-it10:42
slappy16then go into /etc/rc#.d and rm S##lvm10:42
IRCMarkok10:42
slappy16thats the painful way10:42
IRCMarki'll try10:42
spiderwormquestion, if i already have a package installed via apt, is it safe to download the source code for the application and compile and install it to my system, or should i unistall the package via dpkg first?10:42
slappy16go rcconf10:42
jnkkev__, I think you can associate an application easily, but not edit existing mime types10:42
djm62martin: amarok-gstreamer allows amarok to play through gstreamer libs10:42
zerokarmaleftMarble2, hmm...try putting /files/torrents/ instead of /files/torrents10:42
tex_crimsun: - well, the testing ref. was in there, but I commented out the stable, unstable refs. Now it looks like it is going to go for it..10:42
fazermhmm10:42
tex_crimsun: - fingers crossed10:43
pepsicrimsun, thanks... who can i tell about that package depending on libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2?10:43
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martinyes, i've got gstreamer libs but it won't work10:43
crimsunpepsi: what package?10:43
jnkspiderworm, if possible you should use the source of the ubuntu package, not the upstream source. Then change what you want and make an ubuntu package from it10:43
pepsieagle10:43
upsstuntgp2000: it might mess up the system if u try it, and especially since you're new to linux, i think you should try to use the official packages10:43
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IRCMarkbut what's the use of lvm?10:44
spiderwormjnk: hmmm ok... where would i get the source of the ubuntu package i want?  it's prolly in breezy universe10:44
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pepsiits just a matter of making the libstc-foobar a dependency, right?10:44
upsstuntgp2000: anyway, the installation for firefox & gaim differs i think10:44
crimsunpepsi: I'll fix it in a sec.10:44
Unipa1Hi, does somebody use the vnc or realvnc package from ubuntu?10:44
jnkspiderworm, just use "apt-get source package-name", it'll download and uncompress in current directory10:44
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jnkyou need a source line in /etc/apt/sources.list10:45
danwolfcrimsun: that give you any ideas?10:45
slappy16LVM allows you to create disk volumes10:45
crimsundanwolf: not atm, no. Kinda busy.10:45
upsstuntgp2000: so you have to follow the individual software instructions, as given on their sites10:45
stuntgp2000it seems to me what I need is not how to install sth, but how does Linux work :)10:45
slappy16sorta like raid, but no redundancy10:45
upsstuntgp2000: but i would recommend against it10:45
spiderwormjnk: that worked, thanx, now what do i do with the package?10:45
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upsstuntgp2000: ah alright10:46
jnkspiderworm, suppose you're in the source directory, and have installed fakeroot, I think you can compile by doint: "fakeroot debian/rules binary"10:46
Unipa1Hi, does somebody use the vnc or realvnc package from ubuntu?10:46
slappy16dunno. man vnc10:46
slappy16i should stfu10:46
_-InMa-_buenas noches, bona nit, good night10:46
slappy16but there is a link usually10:46
upsstuntgp2000: in general you can either install from pre-compiled packages, or build from source yourself10:46
slappy16in the man page10:47
jnkspiderworm, but you should install the build dependencies to be able to build10:47
slappy16is anyone else here scared about debian/ubuntu?10:47
slappy16because i lub debian...10:47
slappy16i'd hate to see a fork10:48
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Harpihi10:48
jnkspiderworm, for example the developements files for GTK, etc..  I think you can do "apt-get build-deb package-name" to get all necessary dependencies10:48
slappy16so many forks in the world10:48
slappy16...10:48
spiderwormjnk: i can do that.  fakeroot debian/rules binary, that's it?10:48
nickrudslappy16, troll ?10:48
djm62slappy16: I don't think a fork would help anyone10:48
Zugotjnk... thats build-dep10:48
slappy16im not trolling10:48
jnkZugot, oops yes :)10:48
pepsicrimsun, also, i had to chmod +x /usr/bin/eagle10:48
slappy16i just like to see peoples opinions10:48
Unipa1what is a fork?10:48
stuntgp2000in my case I've downloaded firefox-1.0.3.installer.tar.gz from mozilla site, what it is it, it a pre-compiled or a source ?10:48
Harpican someone explain me why my laptop's ventikator is always high running on ubuntu10:48
Harpi??10:49
jnkspiderworm, if it works it should create a .deb bin the parent directory10:49
ompaulUnipa1, context?10:49
slappy16a fork is when you split efforts in a package10:49
Harpiventilator10:49
Zugotdebian moves at a snail's space10:49
ompaulUnipa1, forked process - software package?10:49
spiderwormjnk: and i just install that with dpkg, right?10:49
slappy16ya, so they lag at release10:49
Zugotbut ubuntu needs debian...10:49
slappy16theres always apt10:49
Zugotor do they?10:49
upsstuntgp2000: since it's an installer, it is pre-compiled10:49
slappy16yes, i understand that too10:49
danwolfgotta go to work10:49
djm62ubuntu could even speed up debian10:49
nickrudZugot: yes, yes, yes, and again10:49
Zugotubuntu has intertia and money on its side.10:49
slappy16but what makes it nice is that you maintain whatever package you claim10:49
jnkspiderworm, yes, but dpkg won't install necessary dependencies... maybe build-dep installed them though ?10:49
djm62as a "working unstable" distro10:50
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slappy16that is true too..that guy is rich10:50
Zugotdebian has stability and a plethora of arch's10:50
Unipa1slappy is saying that he hates forks. So what is a fork?10:50
Zugoti like ubuntu10:50
crimsunZugot: ubuntu and debian are both necessary.10:50
spiderwormjnk: im hoping the deps will not need to be updated from what they are now10:50
jnkspiderworm, I mean, dpkg won't work if dependencies are not already installed10:50
slappy16its clean, i like the 5.0410:50
Zugotcrimsun: in their own ways yes10:50
Zugotjust like there is a place in the world for rhel10:50
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NotANickslappy16: but debian and ubuntu are different OS's...its not really a fork10:50
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slappy16so if i run sarge can i apt-get a package intended for ubuntu?10:50
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vessuvius81Does anyone know a good calendar program for ubuntu?10:50
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ZugotNotANick: not really true.   they aren't differences... you can't apt-get to ubuntu from sarge10:51
stuntgp2000Ok problem N1 solved now, how could i insatll a pre-compiled firefox ?10:51
djm62Unipa1: a fork is when somebody takes all the code, and starts developing their own version, which means people have to choose between them and it takes twice as mcuh work10:51
slappy16i still like cal10:51
nickrudslappy16: right now, maybe. Hopefully, etch, yes10:51
\shvessuvius81: evolution (gnome) or kontact (kde)10:51
NotANickslappy16: they're bound to split paths even more in the future as ubuntu furthers in development10:51
crimsunpepsi: real name, please.10:51
slappy16i see, thanks for the input10:51
Zugotmy damn home directory is 28GB10:51
Zugotthats crazy10:51
fazerHow do I make sure my Ubuntu installation is secure?10:51
jintxohi I'm looking for suggestions for a mailing-list software (mailman or majordomo orsomething of the sort) I would like it to take little effort as far as administration goes (instalation is no problem) any suggestions?10:51
Resonantstuntgp2000 its not recommended you DO install a pre-compiled firefox from the MZF.10:51
djm62the Xorg fork was a Good Thing10:52
Zugoti think i'll install amd64 linux10:52
slappy16heh10:52
Unipa1djm62: Thanks. Is this also the case with Kubuntu?10:52
slappy16deb installs Xfree10:52
ompaulZugot, remove isos and oggs and what would you have left?10:52
Zugotlet me go download ubuntu amd6410:52
slappy16fed went xorg10:52
nickruddjm62: why I'm here, really10:52
djm62nickrud: really? how so?10:52
GUISlavewho created xorg?10:52
slappy16i do really like xorg10:52
Harpii have a samll matter gnome i can't get on my desk after the loading step abox message tell me "can't initialize HAL" and then nothing else i have to reboot my computer...do u have any idea ??10:52
nickrudthat, and waiting for beagle10:52
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Zugotxorg is just a bridge10:52
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Zugotwait till kdrive is released.   it should be way better than xorg10:53
slappy16hal needs 2.6, i think10:53
slappy16hal..thats funny10:53
slappy16sounds windowish10:53
joshua__if you do a chmod u+w, u is the user that owns the file right?10:53
Harpii have gnome 2.810:53
djm62Unipa1: I'm not sure what the precise relationship is with kubuntu...10:53
Unipa1Hello, I tried Kubuntu AMD64. It works as good as Ubuntu AMD6410:53
Zugotompaul: i don't understand?   what are you asking?10:53
Zugoti have amd64 laptop10:53
stuntgp2000can know why ? Please be patiant with me. I've really found Ubuntu wonderful.10:53
jnkfazer, don't have open ports and keep up-to-date with security updates ?10:53
ompaulslappy16, you should watch the film 2001 and meet the first HAL who would not let dave to that :)10:53
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Harpino idea ??10:54
ompaulZugot, in terms of what occupies the home directory10:54
slappy16seen it,the beginning is sooo slow10:54
slappy16dave.  dave?10:54
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Zugotompaul: isos for about 3 different distros... the kde source tree and other projects10:54
jnkjoshua__, yes10:54
joshua__jnk:  Thanks.10:54
nickrudkjm62: bottom line? I can run sid, I want people to not run sid.10:54
Zugotompaul: and porn10:54
Harpiany solution ?10:54
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ompaulZugot, so really that should be in /usr/local/porn /usr/local/isos :)10:55
Pluk:P10:55
djm62nickrud: so it is ubuntu as "sid for dummies" ;)10:55
jnkHarpi, maybe try and upgrade hal-related packages ?10:55
Zugotompaul: most likely...10:55
slappy16so whats the prob harpi? you cant startx or it wont boot?10:55
Harpii have already done so ...10:55
nickruddjm62: no, debian for today's users.10:55
theineHi, is /dev/dvd created by udev?10:55
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kev__are there known problems with the ubuntu 5.04 installer and existing software raid 1 partitions?10:55
djm62nickrud: yes...tongue was firmly in cheek10:55
IIIEarsHello!10:55
ompaulslappy16, the guy HAL does not want to turn off the power source10:55
Harpithe matter is that i don't anything on my desk10:56
slappy16so are you in a vterm now or are you in gnome now?10:56
slappy16ompaul: HAL was the computer, right?10:56
jnktheine, I think everyting you have in /dev is created by udev...10:56
Harpithe matter is that i don't have anything on my desk10:56
nickruddjm62: I'm actually pretty good at jokes, but I just failed helping someone. A little so serious a the moment :)10:56
slappy16ohhh...sorry, i wont know, then.  I dont know gnome10:56
Harpiunder windows sorry ...10:56
IIIEarshow do i install a tarball downloaded to the desktop?10:56
slappy16ohhh10:56
ompaulslappy16, yes now if you write down the letters of the english alphabet and look at IBM what is beside them?10:56
slappy16wait, in gdm?10:56
jnkHarpi, can you login as another user ?10:57
Harpino10:57
ompaulslappy hi ab lm10:57
tex_crimsun: thanks a lot for the help...mplyer is working now although without any sound10:57
jnkIIIEars, what's the tarball if not indiscrete?10:57
slappy16hah..nice!10:57
IIIEarsfirestarter10:57
Zugotompaul: write down the same english letters and look at WNT... what is next to that?10:57
tex_one problem at a time i suppose10:57
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pepsicrimsun, my real name?10:57
fazerjnk: how do I know which ports are open?10:57
joshua__Is there any real advantage to upgrading to hoary now that it's out?10:57
jnkHarpi, same problem with all users ?10:57
kev__ie, during the 'partition disks' part of the install it detects 2 raid partitions and then creates 2 raid devices -- and there should only be one. then when i choose 'finish partitioning and write changes to disk' the screen just refreshes -- it doesn't move forward10:58
Harpiyes !!!!10:58
theinejnk, i'm asking because /dev/dvd does not exist on one of my hoary installs (which used to be a warty install) while it does exist on a fresh hoary install on the same machine...10:58
Harpiand i can't do anything10:58
Harpionly...reboot10:58
slappy16can you startx from a console?10:58
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Harpino10:58
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ompaulZugot, I must be asleep I forgot that one - Digital VMS :)10:58
slappy16what do you get?10:59
IIIEarsfirestarter-1.0.3.tar.gz10:59
Harpibut x work well10:59
slappy16can you ~/.xinitrc exec something else and startx?10:59
Harpii have installed kde10:59
slappy16so exec kdm(?)10:59
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Harpiand kde runs but not gnome10:59
jnkfazer, fazer  surely there is a command or a file for that in /proc or something, but I don't know it. You can install nmap and do "nmap localhost" :)10:59
slappy16i lub ice10:59
fazerjnk: oh, haha yeah, i remember that when watching matrix =/11:00
djm62fazer: you can also use netstat -l11:00
jnkfazer, lol11:00
fazerdjm62: ah yeah, thank you.11:00
martinnow it works. i've installed ALL packages with the word "gstreamer" in it :-)11:00
jnkdjm62, ah thanks!11:00
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IIIEarsIt isn't easy being a new linux user - grin11:00
martindoes everyone know which OUTPUT PLUGIN is the best?11:00
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jnkmartin, not you it seems11:01
jnk(sorry)11:01
IIIEarshow do i install a tarball downloaded to my desktop?11:01
Harpiwell i m gone come back and boot with kde11:01
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beggarthere is any function in gimp to add tranparency to an image?11:01
jnkIIIEars, install firestarter through synaptic if the version suits you11:01
djm62IIIEars: open up a terminal...11:01
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Albackerinstal :S tarballs ?11:01
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djm62beggar: transparency is "Alpha" in gimp terminology11:02
jnkbeggar, you can add an alpha channel11:02
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jnkmartin, output for what ?11:02
IIIEarsi can easily use alt+CTRL+F@ to login as root i just don't seem  to be allowed to cd to the usr desktop11:02
martinoutput plugin with gstreamer for amaroK11:02
jnkthat's audio ?11:02
beggaryeah....tks djm62 / jnk11:02
martinthere are so many.. are there big differences between them?11:02
IIIEarsapt-get can't find firestarter11:03
cuscodoes anyone in here uses gmailfs?11:03
cuscocusco@cusco:~$ fusermount: old style mounting not supported11:03
djm62IIIEars: Mene: Applications->System Tools->Terminal11:03
slappy16apt-cache search <package>11:03
jnkmartin, some examples?11:03
djm62IIIEars: then cd Desktop11:03
martinoss, alsa, esd,11:03
djm62IIIEars: oh!  remember it's all case-sensitive, "desktop" is not "Desktop"11:03
martinartes11:03
IIIEarsadding the repository to synaptic doesn't seem to work for me either.11:03
martinarts11:03
jnkIIIEars, firestarter is in universe11:03
jnkenable this, then update and it must work11:04
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djm62.me shuts up11:04
stuntgp2000thanks everyone, bye & see you soon11:04
IIIEarsokay i'll give it another shot - Thank You :)11:04
kijxhat is the command to know fps ?11:04
djm62kij: you want glxgears11:04
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kijyes thx11:05
djm62kij: although glxinfo will give you more detailed (and possibly more confusing) output11:05
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kijthx11:05
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resiakcusco: You're even in here...11:06
jnkmartin, you're using kde ?11:07
ZotnixHrm?11:07
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crimsuntex_: pkill esd, or use mplayer -ao esd11:07
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ZotnixOh11:07
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ZotnixThere is a martin in here.11:07
Zotnixjnk: You scared me for a second :p11:07
kijmoadib11:08
cuscoresiak: yes, altho I got no answer11:08
resiakcusco: Nor did you get an answer on #debian :)11:08
cuscothank you11:08
danwolfhmm11:09
martinyes11:10
martini'm using kde11:10
martinZOTNIX, JNK: i'm using kde11:11
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jnkmartin, kde uses arts (or at least it did when I looked) so it must be the right choice...11:11
slappy16hah!11:11
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jnkmartin, you can use 'ps' to check whether arts (artsd ?) is running11:11
femvhi people... how can i make gnome to run an script before shutting down ????11:12
martinyes, it's artsd11:12
jnkso go with that11:12
nickrudfemv: drop a script in /etc/init.d/, and man update-rc.d (credit crimsun)11:12
martinthx11:12
fazerHmm, how would I make my Ubuntu use 16 bit color instead of 24 or whatever it is currently using?11:13
ShavnirOkay, my internet still isn't working11:13
djm62femv: before shutting down GNOME or before shutting down the computer?11:13
martinps only prints THAT out:11:13
martin  PID TTY          TIME CMD11:13
martin22192 pts/0    00:00:00 bash11:13
martin22203 pts/0    00:00:00 ps11:13
femvdjm62 before shutting down gnome11:13
jnkfazer, look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf (or XF86Config-4 for warty)11:13
eruinmartin, try 'ps x | grep arts'11:14
Zugotfemv: look in the gnome session manager11:14
ShavnirAny advice?11:14
djm62martin: ps aux will do the lot11:14
fazerjnk: ah, awesome. thanks.11:14
martinis that correct?11:14
martin21487 ?        S      0:20 artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -r 48000 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f11:14
femvzugot, in the session manager i can see a setup to run programs an startup.. but at shutdown?11:14
martinor does this mean arstd is running11:14
jnkShavnir, what's the problem ?11:14
Shavnirjnk : Well, it dosen't work.  That seems to be the problem :p11:15
Shavnirjnk : There's a DHCP here on campus, but it isn't getting an IP from it11:15
Zugotfemv: oh... i run kde, i really didn't know.   i figured that would be a good place to start11:15
ShavnirI put in a temporary ethernet card so I can eventually download the precompiled kernel interface so the nvidia drivers can install11:15
fazerjnk: wait, where do I set the bit?11:15
ShavnirBut the other card, despite appaering and seeming to be configured right isn't working11:15
fazerjnk: oh wait, i think i found it11:16
martinis that correct JNK?11:16
martin21487 ?        S      0:20 artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -r 48000 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f11:16
jnkmartin,  yes AFAIK11:16
IIIEarsBack. - I want to install firestarter-1.0.3.tar.gz and have copied it to /tmp and created a directory in /tmp called firestarter is ./configure the next command?11:16
nickrudfemv: just what is it this script does for you?11:16
martinthx11:16
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martinwhat does AFAIK mean?11:16
Dekkardas far as i know11:16
jnkIIIEars, really you should use the ubuntu package if possible, is there a reason no to ?11:17
djm62femv: yes...this isn't something people need to do usually11:17
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IIIEarsi am in the new firestarte  directory11:17
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femvnickrud, djm62 , ... i want to deactivate network interfaces before shutting down gnome...11:17
slappy16can you still not apt it?11:17
djm62IIIEars: in that directory, if you type ls, you will see files like INSTALL and README11:17
IIIEarsi would prefer that - didn't know there was one - apt-get didn't find it and it wasn't listed in synaptic11:17
jnkIIIEars, enable universe11:18
fazerjnk: so, when I have done the necessary changes, do i reboot or just log out and log back in?11:18
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GhostFreemanwhy is it every time I create a right click menu, GNOME shrinks a pixel on my monitor11:18
eruinIIIEars: you need the universe repository enabled11:18
GhostFreemanand when I click out, it goes back to its original shape11:18
jnkfazer, try logging out... or even go to a console and start a second X11:18
fazerjnk: i think I will log ut.  ttyl.11:18
djm62GhostFreeman: man, I don't think you're ghost-free anymore11:18
GhostFreeman...11:19
nickrudfemv what interfaces do you want to shut down?11:19
jnklol11:19
GhostFreemanwhat's up with that, all11:19
jnkShavnir, have you tried a static ip ?11:19
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SeamusLPGhostFreeman:  Are you on drugs?11:19
Shavnirjnk : Well, given that I'm 100% positive the campus uses DHCP for assigning IP addressess, no11:19
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GhostFreemanNo11:20
femvnickrud, djm62 : my problem is that having network interfaces active makes my computer to splash an anoying error message at boot time. doing a ifdown eth0 and ifdown wlan0 makes the splash less anoying... i was thinking of writting an script to do this for me11:20
djm62GhostFreeman: are you sure it does that, rather than just appearing to do that?11:20
jnkShavnir, this is usually not a problem, especially if you choose an ip outside the dhcp range11:20
IIIEarsokay - i will enable "Universe" in synaptic - just curious now (probably not the last tarball i will use) i will use synaptic - just curious can you walk e through the steps to install from a tarball?11:20
eruinanyone know a way to make shortcuts (recursively) to all binaries named 'foo' in a directory ?11:20
GhostFreemanyeah, i'm pretty sure11:20
GhostFreemanwould monitor make help?11:20
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Shavnirjnk : But I won't be able to access the network unless I'm inside the DHCPs range right?11:20
jnkIIIEars, the right thing to do with a tarball is reading INSTALL and README :)  usually you have to run ./configure, make, sudo make install11:21
djm62GhostFreeman: not really, because that sounds completely wack11:21
ShavnirPlus I just don't get why it isn't working.11:21
GhostFreemanit pans out also, its like something going on in my monitor or something11:21
ShavnirI had a similar chipset of network card in my old PC a couple years back running debian and it picked right up on it :\11:21
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eruinIIIEars: normally, the standard procedure would be to get the tarball in your home dir, then running 'tar zxvf tarball.tar.gz', cd 'tarball', './configure', 'make', 'make install'11:21
GhostFreemanWhere would I file a bug report? X.org? GNOME? Ubuntu?11:21
djm62femv: when you say "splash"...what do you mean11:21
jnkShavnir, now you should have access to the network if you use an ip that is part of the network, but you won't automatically get the dns server addresses11:21
eruinIIIEars: but as jnk says, alway read README and INSTALL files ;)11:21
slappy16amean11:22
Shavnirjnk : Well, to be honest I don't know the range of IPs that the DHCP uses.  And I don't know how to setup a static IP11:22
slappy16amen11:22
jovianI was wondering how I can COPY files from a local ntfs disk mounted on an ubuntu live cd to a full ubuntu install on a ext3 disk?11:22
IIIEarsah "sudo" make install - got it - Thanks again. :) Ubuntu is terriffic11:22
jovianis it possible11:22
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jnkGhostFreeman, ubuntu11:22
djm62femv: edit /etc/network/interfaces so that your external interfaces don't come up "auto" (lo should be left as it is)11:22
jnkGhostFreeman, they will forward upstream if necessary11:22
GhostFreemanalright11:22
femvnickrud, djm62 : its just an error messages that shows up a lot of times ... "cs : pcmcia_socket0: unable to apply power" i have days asking everybody around and havent find a solution11:22
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NotANickGhostFreeman: I think its time to lay off the Ketamine...Thats how I got my monitor to stop doing that11:23
ShavnirAlso, anyone know if its possible to download the precompiled kernel interface on another computer and move it via CD to an ubuntu machine?11:23
nickrudfemv, don't know pcmcia.11:23
Shavnir(re: nVidia drivers)11:23
djm62femv: oh....that's a weird one....that happens before init starts doesn't it?11:23
tm17hHey all -- at some point in the last month or so, automounting of USB devices stopped happening automagically on my ubuntu box (perhaps when I moved to hoary(?)). Can any one give me some pointers as to where to start looking for the problem?11:23
jnkShavnir, look at the ip from another computer on the network. Choose you ip with the same xxx.xxx.xxx  (change only the 3 last digits). Run for example: ifconfig eth0 up xxx.xxx.xxx.yyy11:23
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femvdjm62, the thing is that i want them to be enabled when i turn on my laptop.... i did erase the auto thing... but that is why i need the scripts11:24
slappy16tm17h: anything in dmesg? is automounter runing?11:24
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slappy16you can still mount by hand?11:24
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tm17hslappy16: Yes I can still mount by hand. Devices show up when I plug them in -- e.g. tail var/log/messages shows me if it's on sdb or sda or whatnot, I can then mount with sudo mount /dev/sdb /media/usb/11:25
djm62femv: it's not important that you _disable_ them....just as long as they aren't enabled when you boot up?11:25
Shavnirjnk : Okay, I did that.11:25
GhostFreemanthat's odd, restarting GNOME fixes it11:25
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femvdjm62, that happens at boot time while configuring network interfaces, yes it is weird... and its more weird when you realize that it has to do with dhcp11:25
GhostFreemananyways, filing bug report11:25
slappy16whats in /etc/auto.master?11:25
jnkShavnir, now try pinging the other computer...11:25
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Shavnirjnk : Destination host unreachable11:26
tm17hslappy16:  /etc/auto.master doesn't exist.11:26
slappy16does the new kernel from the install support autofs?11:26
slappy16ahh, if its the automounter im thinking of, it looks there..11:26
jnkShavnir, do you have several network interfaces ?11:26
femvdjm62, if i have them disabled at boot up.... or if i asign them an static ip... the error message appears just a couple of times... and becomes less anoying11:26
danwolfHAL SUCKS!!11:26
Shavnirjnk : Four currently.11:26
slappy16maybe someone here could correct me if im mistaken11:26
danwolfhaha11:26
Shavnirjnk : Of which one was recognized by Ubuntu :\11:26
slappy16i havent autofs'd in ubuntu/deb11:26
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tm17hslappy16: That would explain it then. Now the question is what package should be providing that file -- hmm... anyone remember the magic with dpkg -S that will tell me what package provides a file?11:26
djm62femv: in that case...you could add the appropriate ifconfig command to your gnome session so it happens when you log in11:27
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Shavnirjnk : Two onboard gigabit ethernet that I can't get the nForce drivers to install for, a 802.11g card, and the 10/100 card I'm using so I can hopefully download the stuff to use the onboard two.11:27
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femvdjm62, i can activate them when my session starts... true... but they will still be activated at boot up ?11:27
Reblendedgiving live cd a boot on my sony vaio... I have  "boot: live pci=noacpi" and it is halting at the line: ACPI: Subsystem revision 2005021111:27
danwolfShavnir: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986411:27
djm62femv: not if you use ifconfig11:27
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Shuflahello :)11:28
jnkShavnir, eth0 is the 10/100 card ?11:28
Shavnirjnk : I think so?11:28
jnkShavnir, we'll try in pv11:28
femvdjm62, well that sounds like heaven to me.... tell me more about this ifconfig11:28
djm62femv: it will happen if you actually configure them in gnome...that (I think) changes the config file11:28
Shuflai'd like to say, that d-i with soft-raid + lvm runs fine :D but i've got badblocked disks :(11:28
Shuflabtw. what is the best for soft-raid-1: two disk on same cable or two disks on diffrent cables?11:28
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edcifconfig eth0 up ip     where ip is the ip you want to assign it11:29
edcroute add default gw ip eth0        where ip is the gateway's ip11:30
jnktm17h, dpkgk -S filename  ? but if it's not here maybe the package is not installed11:30
djm62femv: dhclient eth0 will get an address from DHCP for you11:30
edcok when i cd /usr/src/linux to compile a kernel i do make menuconfig and get the error:11:31
tm17hjnk: Right -- I thought there might be some magic to figure out *which* package isn't installed based on the filename I know ought to exist.11:31
edc/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses11:31
edccollect2: ld returned 1 exit status11:31
femvso how should i write that out ....... the ifconfig thing11:31
Shuflajnk: there's apt-ftp package to search for files in not installed packages11:31
jnktm17h, not with dpkg then. Some apt tool I don't know which11:31
edci did do apt-get install build-essential already11:31
djm62femv: working it through ATM11:31
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jnkShufla, thanks :)11:31
femvdjm62 atm ?11:31
Shuflan/p :D11:31
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djm62femv: at the moment11:32
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djm62anyone: does dhclient eth0 automatically bring the interface up?11:32
jnkdjm62, no11:33
tm17hjnk: Perhaps apt-cache search or some such... I'll give it a go and see if I have any luck.11:33
nickrudtm17h: http/debian.org/distrib/packages, search contents in unstable.11:33
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jnkdjm62, well not sure anymore but it would be strange since dhclient doesn't need ifupdown11:33
dazedhallo all11:33
jnkdjm62, well what do you mean by "interface up" ?11:33
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nickrudright now, it's about 99.44% accurate :)11:34
slappy16ifconfig -a11:34
danthemanwhat bittorrent clients do you all use?11:34
cuscodoes anyone uses gmailfs?11:34
slappy16if its status is up or down11:34
goldfishazureus11:34
cuscocusco@cusco:~$ fusermount: old style mounting not supported11:34
danthemani don't like the gnome-btdownloader11:34
Shuflabtdownloadcurses :D11:34
danwolfgmailfs?11:34
danwolfcusco: whats that?11:34
djm62jnk: if typing "ifconfig" only shows lo, and you're plugged into a DHCP network, if you type "dhclient eth0" will ifconfig then show lo and eth011:34
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cuscodanwolf: its to use gmail acount to store files11:35
ReblendedI'm trying to boot the LIVE CD of Hoary... I have "boot: live pci=acpi"  and everything seems to load until the line ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050211 then it stops. Any ideas?11:35
jnkdjm62, ah yes!11:35
djm62(I've only done this on wireless, which is slightly different)11:35
tz273Hi! Please help me! I would like to save my iptables config on a brand new ubundu, but i can't find /etc/init.d/iptables. I had it on my debian11:35
jnkdjm62, but if eth0 is not  listed by ifconfig maybe you're missing a module11:35
slappy16tm17h: did you find what you were looking for?  what was that flag for dpkg you were looking for?11:35
djm62jnk: it's not me, it's femv, and I think that's the solution to his problem11:36
jnkdjm62, (if dhclient succeeds then eth0 will definitely be listed by ifconfig)11:36
slappy16tz273: /etc/init.d/ is the script to start it...it does not hold iptable configs11:36
djm62femv: there....add "dhclient eth0" to your gnome session11:36
tz273slappy16: I want to save the config i just created.11:36
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slappy16if you have a machine w/ a good config running now, just iptables-save/restore it11:36
djm62femv: and it shouldn't persist across a reboot, so it (hopefully) will do what you want11:37
Reblendedif anyone has an idea about my problem, feel free to /msg me11:37
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femvdjm62, it would be system > preferences > sessions ... and then ?11:37
tz273slappy16: So, you say, if i asked iptables to restore a config, it remains active at the nex reboot?11:37
slappy16you need to save that output to a file.. i havent iptabled in quite some time11:38
tm17hslappy16: dpkg -S will search for a file, but of course the file I'm looking for isn't installed, so that didn't help me yet :) Looks like the file you're thinking of is provided by utils/autofs in debian unstable. Not sure if that's the normal "ubuntu" way to handle this or not. With warty, it all just worked(tm) after my base "click ok to everything" install.11:38
djm62femv: Default : Edit11:38
Zugoti finally got my setup working.... if i'm plugged into the network, my laptop will dhcp off the ethernet.   if there is no link, my laptop will try to find all the wifi networks it knows about, if that doesn't work, it dials up using my wireless verizon broadband card.   this kicks ass11:38
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Reblendedbtw, this live cd I burnt worked fine on another computer, I'm just missing something on this other one11:38
djm62femv: d'oh, talking monkeys11:38
IIIEarsFirestarter firewall is "Active" - that was almost too easy - grin11:38
nickrudZugot: network nirvana, eh?11:38
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tz273slappy16: OK, thank you! Just let me ask a last question: What sould i tell iptables, if i want it to forget all the filters i just added?11:39
goldfishIIIEars: heh11:39
djm62femv: "startup programs" tab, +Add11:39
lsuactiafnertz273, : as far as i know you need to put each iptable command in a file and run it @ bootup or whenever11:39
lsuactiafnertz iptables -F11:39
femvdjm62, ok so that should activate my connecction right?11:39
tz273lsuactiafner: thx11:39
Zugotnickrud: yup..   i just want to be able to connect where ever i may happen to be at any point in time11:39
slappy16  --flush   -F [chain]           Delete all rules in  chain or all chains11:39
nickrudI need a laptop :)11:39
djm62femv: that should activate your connection when you log into gnome11:40
lsuactiafneriptables -F11:40
tz273Thank You!11:40
lsuactiafneriptables -t nat -F11:40
lsuactiafneriptables -t mangle -F11:40
slappy16ahh, thats right lsuactiafner11:40
lsuactiafneri got a nice script for you if you want11:40
slappy16nice11:40
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Zugoti need a laptop with 1600x1200 resolution11:40
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femvdjm62, great im gonna try that out brb11:40
slappy16last time i iptabled, i just used shorewall11:40
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lsuactiafnerbut you will need to patch your kernel to use it, but its dynamic and very very effective for home users11:40
nickrudZugot: lottery money, huh?11:40
ReblendedZugot, My sis's is 1600x1050.. it's great11:40
tz273lsuactiafner: what kinf of script? I jut want to masquarade a subnet to a pppoe connection11:40
lsuactiafneryeh it should also do it, but i as i said you will need to patch your kenrel for it, can you do that?11:41
Zugotnickrud: nah... i'm always on my laptop.   it should have good resolution11:41
ipsHello, anyone knows how to have a different background for each desktop in gnome 2.10??11:41
Zugoti'm gonna get the thinkpad t42p11:41
Zugoti think it does 1600x120011:41
djm62I'm still getting used to 1024x76811:41
ReblendedZugot, HP P4ht 2.311:41
nickrudZugot: right now for me that'd be lottery money :)11:42
Reblendedand everything works!11:42
Zugoti have 1280x800 right now, and it feels like i'm missing something11:42
ReblendedLOL11:42
IIIEarsi would like to install clam anti virus. what packages do i need?11:42
nickrudZugot, my are we particular.11:42
Reblendedthe full meal deal11:42
tz273so, thank you i leave for reboot.11:42
Zugotnickrud: do you code?11:42
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lsuactiafnerIIIEars, : goto freshmeat.net search for the name of the package you want, ie, clam and then check the dependancy list there11:43
nickrudExcept for personal bash, not for a couple of decades.11:43
njanZugot, 1680x1050 is all I ever dreamed for :)11:43
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CarlKI am trying to hookup a HP deskjet 3320 - add new printer doesn't detect it - so I need to tell what port it is on - lsubs sees it at bus 1, device 2 -  what "usb printer #" is it?11:44
lsuactiafner2 i think11:44
CarlKalso, any idea if/how I can use a  Kodac EasyShare printer?11:45
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dragonmanhello everyone i need some help i'm installing gentoo and cant get past the "livecd" "root#" everytime i try a password get an error, any ideas11:45
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slappy16hah..wrong group11:46
Abooddjm62, hello again dude11:46
slappy16whoa.thats fast, too11:46
djm62Abood: what up?11:46
slappy16gentoo's got awesome docs, man11:46
joshua__dragonman:  I beleieve theres a #gentoo on this server.  They'd be able to help you11:46
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CarlKdragonman - I have done it - Generally Too much trouble ;)11:46
Marble2Why am I getting this error when I run sudo chown -R greg:greg /files/torrents? chown: changing ownership of `/files/torrents': Operation not permitted11:46
slappy16ya, and read the docs!11:46
whiteknight_hey everyone11:46
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jnkdracflamloc,  ask in #gentoo11:46
djm62gentoo?11:46
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\shhehe11:46
\sh#gentoo ;)11:46
jnkdragonman, that is11:46
slappy16emerge land11:46
Abooddjm62 same proplem dude, but now i entered the desktop with the VGA depth 4 and resolution the lowest ?!?11:47
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danthemandoes anyone know why totem movie player would choke on an mpg?11:47
slappy16its nice that they have a portage11:47
Reblendedis there another way to disable acpi in addition to using pci=noacpi? My live cd stops loading and seems to ignore that I've told it not to use acpi?11:47
joshua__dantheman:  Totem sucks. ;)  Try out vlc or gxine11:47
danthemanalright11:47
ZugotMarble2: maybe /files/torrents is on a RO filesystem... what happens when you type "sudo touch /files/torrents/test"11:47
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Greek0hi11:47
slappy16i cant believe they force me to use fedora at work...IT SUCKS11:47
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Reblendedon xp vlc has played files that win media player wouldn't touch11:47
\sh1. livecd (standard) 2. stage1 tar.bz2 3. www.gentoo.org -> gentoo install handbook 4. working gentoo11:48
Greek0is there a way to get past versions of packages in ubuntu?11:48
djm62Abood: can you restate your problem for the benefit of the smart people here?11:48
Marble2Zugot: I mounted it as rw11:48
Marble2any other ideaS?11:48
CarlKReblended - i don't think you need the pci= part11:48
slappy16 Reblended: i've had the same experince!11:48
Rotundslappy16: I have to use XP...  shut it11:48
Zugotdoes the touch command work?11:48
joshua__VLC is great.  I only use gxine for wmv files because of the w32codecs package11:48
Reblendedslappy16, ooh!11:48
slappy16hah..11:48
ReblendedCarlK, gonna go try that!11:48
Marble2Zugot: no output, but no erros11:48
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Marble2maybe it's because /files is mounted to something else11:48
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Marble2would that matter?11:48
danthemancan someone tell me what apckages i'll need for vlc, besides just the vlc package?11:48
Zugotwhat does the mount look like?11:48
Marble2if a subfolder is mounted somewhere else?11:48
slappy16you win rotund11:48
Marble2/dev/hdc1 on /files/torrents type vfat (rw)11:48
joshua__dantheman:  just apt-get install vlc11:49
Zugotoh... of course that won't work..11:49
Zugotduh11:49
joshua__dantheman:  It has support forst just about alla udio by default..just no wmv11:49
Zugotvfat doesn't hold uid/gid11:49
danthemanalright, thanks11:49
Rotundslappy16: Yeah, but I win because I'm writing tests for a program where the developers use Linux.11:49
Abooddjm62, sure, another thing can u tell me how i can connect my ADSL eth1 to be connected with the net i need many stuff to start config11:49
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Marble2Zugot: I was able to chown other vfat stuff?11:49
slappy16hahaha11:49
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Zugotmount it using -o uid=<yer uid>, gid=<yer gid>11:49
slappy16how efficient11:49
ZugotMarble2: i don't think so..11:49
slappy16"heres cygwin"11:49
RotundAnyone having issues w/ mono in backports?11:49
lsuactiafnerok am new to ubuntu/debian how do i apt-get a package that aint on the cd?11:49
lsuactiafneri need to install ncurses11:50
joshua__dantheman:  Np.  And, if you ever decide you want to play wmv files.  Download gxine.  Add the marillat repository, and install w32codecs.  it's a pain, but if you realy need wmv support, that's the way to go.11:50
Abooddjm62, i checked this http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#rp-pppoe but its also me a internet connection !?11:50
tz273Hi! Could you help me? I have the problem, i just configured my eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, but it doesn't works. if I configure with ifconfig it works. If i just simply tell ifconfig eth0 up, it doesn't11:50
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djm62Abood: you're best asking the room...I can only really help with stuff I have experience of11:50
nickrudAbood, does windows connect properly11:50
danthemanthanks!11:50
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slappy16lsuactiafner: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade apt-cache search ncurses11:50
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stopabuselol, you shoud've heard #gentoo guys harrasing ubuntu11:51
djm62tz273: what does the section in /e/n/interfaces look like?11:51
Aboodnickrud, yes11:51
IIIEarsOS, firewall, and anti virus installed without errors in a few minutes - VERY impressive. - Ubuntu developers have won another convert.11:51
stopabusethey told its nothing but debians and gentoos ripoff11:51
ZugotMarble2: i just solved your problem11:51
Marble2okay11:51
Marble2how11:51
lsuactiafnerslappy16, : thanks for the basic info but it will help me (;11:51
stopabusei tried to argue but they kept on abusing11:51
slappy16or run synaptic11:51
Reblendedslappy16, ok.. youv'e had that same experience?11:51
IIIEarsThank You guys. :)11:51
nickrudabood, who's your provider (hope it's us)11:51
Greek0Is there any way to get older versions of packages in ubuntu? something like snapshot.debian.net?11:51
djm62stopabuse: no skin off any of our noses :)11:51
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stopabusecan someone help me with my ubuntu? i installed it and theres this nigger and two ladies on wallpaper! i want nigger to go away!11:51
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slappy16Reblended: just with vlc playing files that wm9||10 wont touch11:51
ReblendedCarlK, got a little farther this time.. now it says: ACPI: Setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0e20)11:51
ZugotMarble2: you mounted it as root... and its vfat.  of course you can't change ownership of the files.   this is "user error".   mount it with your own uid, gid and your problems will go away11:52
djm62stopabuse: (a) language FFS11:52
Reblendedslappy16, ahh, ya11:52
tz273djm62: iface eth0 inet static\naddress..., netmask..., network..., broadcast....11:52
slappy16stopabuse: whatta dork11:52
Marble2oh11:52
Marble2okay11:52
Marble2thanks11:52
Aboodnickrud i dont understand what provider, ?? u mean the ISP's ?!11:52
nickrudabood yes11:52
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stopabusei'm not racist but i really dont like naked man on my wallpaper11:52
joshua__stopabuse:  Why not change the wallpaper? o.o11:52
stopabusei'm not gay!11:52
stopabusejoshua__, how?11:52
danthemanhow do i add a new repository?11:52
slappy16hah...11:52
dockaneis there any known reason why ubuntu alwaya mutes audio capture device and moves mic record level to zero ?11:52
djm62stopabuse: (b) you can change the deskop wallpaper by right-clicking11:52
stopabusei cant find where can i do it11:52
slappy16hahaha11:52
joshua__stopabuse:  Should've asked that in the first place. :)11:52
ZugotMarble2: /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)11:52
slappy16this is comedy11:52
Aboodnickrud, its a company in my country ?!11:52
djm62I quite like the guy :-/11:52
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joshua__Anyway, right click, change desktop background, stopabuse11:53
slappy16i...need..BEER!11:53
joshua__right click on the desktop that is11:53
Aboodnickrud, man i need to know how can i get my ubuntu be connected with the net, iv got eth1 connected with the ADSL modem ?!11:53
nickrudabood, because I can help with certain types of connections, I'm hoping the compay will tell me what type you have :)11:53
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vordhosbnis there a way i can change hotplug to mount my ipod to /media/ipod instead of /media/ipod_name ?11:53
RotundGRRRRR.  I can't write a CD!11:53
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jnkvordhosbn, you can add an udev rule11:53
slappy16vordhosbn: hotplug?11:53
slappy16oh11:54
slappy16hah11:54
slappy16nm11:54
vordhosbnwell, i figured it was hotplug that was doing it11:54
thechitowncubsis there a list of windows apps alternatives11:54
lsuactiafnerok /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses11:54
NotANickvordhosbn: change your ipods name to ipod11:54
lsuactiafnercollect2: ld returned 1 exit status11:54
lsuactiafner>> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.11:54
lsuactiafner>>11:54
lsuactiafner>> You must install ncurses-devel in order11:54
lsuactiafner>> to use 'make menuconfig'11:54
Aboodnickrud, Device Type : PPPoE, Server Type : PPP11:54
Brazmetalhey, why my resolv.conf file is reset each boot? I set the dns adresses, and when i reboot the system the internet isn't working cause the values I put in the file desappeared ?11:54
Rotundno chance of getting ProDVD installed?11:54
Meastapheleswhy would untaring the 2.6.12-rc2 kernel give "Cannot exec: No such file or dir" since I've copied and pasted the doownloaded file the name is correct, and I'm su11:54
lsuactiafnerany ideas ppl? i need to make a new kernel11:54
Marble2that worked Zugot11:54
Marble2thanks11:54
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slappy16lsuactiafner: did you rerun ld-config11:54
thechitowncubswhat is the best Money managing app out there11:54
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slappy16did you install ncurses-dev?11:54
lsuactiafneralready did11:54
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slappy16ldconfig?11:54
nickrudabood: ok ppoeconf has always worked for me for PPPoE11:54
oliveHello there, I just have a simple question for the Ubuntu Live CD : How can I (easily) access my hard drives ? I don't see any programs to mount partition...11:55
lsuactiafnerE: Couldn't find package ncurses-dev11:55
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lsuactiafneralready did ldconfig11:55
slappy16libncurses5-dev11:55
Rotundthechitowncubs: The best is Quicken via Crossover Office.  GnuCash is second11:55
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ReblendedCarlK, funny they say in f7 boot modes to type pci=noacpi but I did what you said and it halts with another acpi line11:55
slappy16lettme do it, too11:55
lsuactiafnerE: Couldn't find package libncurses5-dev11:55
Aboodok nickrud, do u know from where i can start to run my connection :) ?11:55
femvdjm62, r u there11:55
Marble2how do i create a hotlink, so that say I do cp file /ft it actually copies it to /files/torrents ?11:55
thechitowncubsi installed gnucash but the fonts look really crappy11:56
djm62femv: I'm there...sounds ominous11:56
nickrudAbood, just run pppoeconf, enter the fields, and it will probably work.11:56
femvdjm62, im running failsafe mode.....11:56
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nickrudhas for yeas.11:56
djm62femv: failsafe on gnome?11:56
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danthemancan someone tell me how to add the marillat repository to sources.list?11:56
nickrudyears.11:56
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joshua__dantheman:  Hold on, lemme fetch a guide to it11:57
Aboodnickrud, another thing man, im facing a proplem with the xserver-xorg, do uv got any experince with it ?!11:57
nickrudSome.11:57
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Seibolhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories11:57
femvdjm62, yes , gnome wouldnt start up in normal mode with the dhclient thing...my opinion... permission are being dennied since im logging as root11:57
jessica_does anyone know what to do with i810 settings so that the display options work correctly?11:57
Seiboldantheman, there u go11:57
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Seiboldantheman: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories11:58
femvdjm62, i meant... since im not logging as root11:58
nickrudAbood: as long as it's generic, or voodoo3 :)11:58
jnkjessica_, what is it that doesn't work ?11:58
Reblendedhow do I disable acpi with LIVE cd, noacpi or pci=noacpi does not work on my sony vaio laptop11:58
djm62femv: damn....I think you're right11:58
Aboodnickrud, its damn Intel builtin chipset11:58
stopabusedamn, where was i, oh, how do i change wallapper?11:58
joshua__dantheman: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main11:58
stopabuseright click.. then?11:58
jnkMarble2, ln -s /files/torrents /ft11:58
joshua__dantheman:  Add that to the last name of sources.list11:58
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nickrudAbood, it's a well known chipset. If it's generic, I can help, otherwise some else can11:59
danthemanit doesn't matter if i get gpg errors, right?11:59
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vordhosbnwhat program or script handles mounting the ipod as "/media/IPOD NAME" ?11:59
slappy16lsuactiafner: did it work?11:59
NotANickstopabuse: Head down to Home Depot, ask the friendly guy behind the counter11:59
femvtried to do it from console, it wont do it without a sudo in fornt11:59
joshua__dantheman:  Run sudo apt-get update after you add it11:59
jessica_jnk: the screen resolution is 640 by 480 and won't go higher11:59
Aboodnickrud, the proplem is that the xserver-zorg can accept the driver but it dosen't work11:59
slappy16i dont know if 5-dev was correct11:59
danthemanalright11:59
jnkvordhosbn, gnome-volume-manager through hal11:59
NotANickstopabuse: nah just kidding, there should be a change desktop of something button when you right click on the desktop11:59
jnk(I think)11:59
Marble2thansk jnk11:59
stopabuseNotANick, i cant find it :(12:00
vordhosbnalright, i'll look into it12:00
stopabuseoh wait12:00
femvdjm62 i dont know why i think that gnome wont take a sudo there .... ?12:00
stopabuseproperties12:00

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