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| zul | i take it most people are on an airplane flight? | 01:20 |
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| ajmitch | not yet | 01:21 |
| ajmitch | I don't fly out until saturday :) | 01:21 |
| zul | or most people who live in the northern hemisphere ;) | 01:21 |
| ajmitch | :) | 01:21 |
| ajmitch | some of the main developers will be at LCA already | 01:22 |
| ajmitch | sadly I couldn't go this year | 01:22 |
| zul | me either | 01:22 |
| ajmitch | I went to LCA in adelaide last year, it was great fun :) | 01:23 |
| zul | cool.. | 01:23 |
| jbailey | ajmitch: I'm still at home. =) | 01:45 |
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| zul | yeah well you are moving to montreal so there is something strange about you | 02:33 |
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| darkaudit | ahoy hoy | 03:53 |
| crimsun | ahoy. | 03:54 |
| darkaudit | looking at an XFCE menu issue... lots of duplicates and a big honking list labeled 'Applications' | 03:55 |
| HostingGeek | lol | 03:55 |
| crimsun | yeah, I'm not sure what to do about that. | 03:55 |
| crimsun | Benny's xfdesktop changes include Xfld's menu code | 03:56 |
| crimsun | and the snapshot I imported wasn't 4.2.1.1, it was 4.3 cvs | 03:56 |
| crimsun | which means while the menu actually works, it has those duplicates. | 03:56 |
| darkaudit | it looks like it's taking the .desktop files from multiple locations... a lot of the entries match both the gnome copy, and the menu-xdg one | 03:57 |
| crimsun | I can patch the xfdesktop code to look only at gnome-menu's | 03:58 |
| crimsun | I want to avoid pushing _too_ many changes, though, because we're already fairly divergent from Debian | 03:58 |
| crimsun | experimental went straight xfce.org, whereas Jani and I went os-works.com | 03:59 |
| darkaudit | personally, I'd prefer the menu-xdg, 'cause it's a better populated list on my box | 03:59 |
| crimsun | but menu-xdg doesn't integrate as well with gnome-menu | 03:59 |
| crimsun | and gnome integration is one of the things I wanted to push foremost | 03:59 |
| darkaudit | hmm.. | 03:59 |
| darkaudit | it's just odd that apps like kmail aren't in the main menus in GNOME or KDE, but only show up in the Debian menu after I run update-menus | 04:03 |
| crimsun | kmail's menu entry probably needs to be fixed then. | 04:05 |
| darkaudit | and I'm starting to like XFCE... just installed it this morning :) | 04:05 |
| darkaudit | crimsun: it's not just kmail... most of the games I installed wouldn't show up in the GNOME menu... | 04:06 |
| crimsun | darkaudit: those haven't been converted to use the new gnome-menu method. | 04:06 |
| crimsun | though it's better if they're made to use fd.o's xdg spec | 04:06 |
| darkaudit | is Breezy (and GNOME 2.12) going to be more fd.o-compliant? | 04:08 |
| crimsun | I can only hope so :) | 04:08 |
| ajmitch_ | hi all | 04:11 |
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| crimsun | hi ajmitch_ | 04:52 |
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| bddebian | Heya ajmitch_ | 04:59 |
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| \sh | morning Burgundavia | 06:24 |
| Burgundavia | salut | 06:24 |
| HostingGeek | m00 | 06:34 |
| \sh | hmmm | 06:44 |
| \sh | switching from debian to gentoo is not the problem in a live enviroment | 06:45 |
| \sh | but what about switching from gentoo to ubuntu | 06:45 |
| \sh | in a live enviroment? | 06:45 |
| Treenaks | don't use gentoo in live environments ;) | 06:47 |
| \sh | heheh | 06:47 |
| \sh | it will be a test | 06:47 |
| \sh | i want to change my rootie from gentoo to ubuntu ;) | 06:47 |
| Treenaks | "Yeah, I compiled my server with -O99 -mcpu=pentium5 -march=pentium6 -funroll-loops and prelinked it!!!!!!!111oneone!!11eleven" | 06:47 |
| \sh | Treenaks: this is for geeks | 06:48 |
| \sh | -O2 -pipe -march=athlon-xp -mcpu=athlon-xp is for me enough | 06:48 |
| \sh | and working | 06:48 |
| thom | Treenaks: don't forget -pipe; that gives you big optimisations :P | 06:48 |
| Treenaks | thom: oh yeah | 06:48 |
| \sh | and -fomit-framepointer ;) | 06:49 |
| \sh | but no, serious | 06:49 |
| Treenaks | \sh: sorry, that's the image that comes to mind when I hear people say they use gentoo.. | 06:49 |
| \sh | jabber server, webserver with a couple of webpages on etc. have to be moved | 06:49 |
| \sh | Treenaks: i know, I have to fight every single time against this picture | 06:50 |
| \sh | not all of the gentoo guys are optimizing compiler flags fetishists | 06:50 |
| \sh | well, i will ask on #debian ;) | 06:53 |
| Treenaks | \sh: I'd copy the config files and wwwroot to a newly installed debian machine | 06:57 |
| Treenaks | \sh: that's how I migrate from one piece of hardware to the next.. | 06:57 |
| \sh | Treenaks: possible...any way of doing a ubuntu install remotely without sitting in the datacenter? | 06:58 |
| \sh | (well, there is no remote insight board :() | 06:58 |
| Treenaks | \sh: serial console? | 06:59 |
| Treenaks | \sh: otherwise debootstrap :) | 06:59 |
| Treenaks | anyway.. off-to-work time.. | 06:59 |
| \sh | for me too | 07:00 |
| \sh | deboostrap | 07:00 |
| \sh | yeah..emerge debootstrap | 07:00 |
| \sh | there is a second hd, i could install ...mumble..yeah this will do | 07:01 |
| \sh | finally fun over the day :) | 07:01 |
| \sh | laters | 07:01 |
| === ajmitch unfortunately does know some people who fit the gentoo stereotype | ||
| Mithrandir | \sh: emerge debtakeover, possibly? | 07:04 |
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| schweeb | \sh: yea, definitely look at the debtakeover howto | 07:37 |
| Burgundavia | people are asking about stuff that is not packaged for Ubuntu on the forums. Is there a good place for them to add their requests? | 07:57 |
| ajmitch | UniverseCandidates | 08:05 |
| ajmitch | on the wiki :) | 08:05 |
| Burgundavia | oops | 08:06 |
| schweeb | or the Debian New Maintainer's Guide :) | 08:06 |
| schweeb | get packagin, bishes | 08:07 |
| schweeb | ;) | 08:07 |
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| \sh | re | 08:22 |
| \sh | anydody awake who can review/upload | 08:24 |
| \sh | ? | 08:24 |
| ajmitch | maybe.. | 08:30 |
| \sh | malone #411 and #346 | 08:35 |
| \sh | 411 was reviewed by herve | 08:35 |
| \sh | 346 has to be reviewed | 08:35 |
| \sh | time for a coffee | 08:42 |
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| GheRivero | res | 09:48 |
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| bddebian | Morning | 01:33 |
| encolpe | hi | 01:34 |
| goedson | Hi mddebian. | 01:34 |
| goedson | s/md/bd/ :) | 01:34 |
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| \sh | re | 02:32 |
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| \sh | re | 06:59 |
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| herve | hi! | 07:03 |
| === herve searching for an enthusiast uploader... :-) | ||
| bddebian | Hello herve | 07:09 |
| \sh | hey herve | 07:14 |
| \sh | man I'm so ill sometimes | 07:14 |
| herve | \sh, I've improved my patch for dia | 07:15 |
| herve | I fixed the broken code instead of removing it like the gnome patch | 07:15 |
| \sh | herve: nice...i need someone to review and upload ;) | 07:15 |
| herve | and I appended that patch to the bug report | 07:15 |
| \sh | well...finally, I'm running now an ubuntu root server ;) | 07:15 |
| \sh | replaced gentoo live enviroment | 07:16 |
| herve | ha :) | 07:16 |
| herve | I can review | 07:16 |
| herve | but I'm looking for an uploader too | 07:16 |
| \sh | hehe | 07:16 |
| \sh | conglomerate is for review, tagtool u reviewed | 07:17 |
| \sh | http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/conglomerate/ ;) | 07:17 |
| herve | I get to it now | 07:17 |
| \sh | ok...I have now running apache2+mysql+php4+jabberd2+bind9 | 07:17 |
| \sh | I'm missing some python transports and the proxy65, but this I will build by myself | 07:18 |
| \sh | I removed gnome | 07:18 |
| \sh | i removed the xserver | 07:18 |
| herve | yes, it's a server ;-) | 07:18 |
| \sh | herve: but it won't install as a server | 07:18 |
| \sh | that was my problem | 07:18 |
| \sh | deboostrap from ubuntu, installing, base-config new and I had a workstation installation | 07:18 |
| \sh | apt-get remove `cat /var/lib/dpkg/available|grep "Package: gnome-"|awk '{ print $2 }'` helped a lot ;) | 07:19 |
| \sh | and funny thing was...the server was running after the final reboot...and what I forgot? apt-get install ssh ;) | 07:19 |
| \sh | one reboot to much | 07:19 |
| \sh | one reboot to many, or to much? sp? | 07:20 |
| herve | hmm... | 07:21 |
| herve | I know what you mean but don't know how to tell it in English | 07:22 |
| \sh | ah...i have to create a patch of jabberd2 | 07:23 |
| \sh | there is an error in the init.d file | 07:23 |
| herve | good! | 07:23 |
| herve | so I can use it afterwards :-p | 07:23 |
| \sh | well...it's easy | 07:24 |
| herve | you had to fix anything in conglomerate? | 07:24 |
| herve | or just change debian stuff? | 07:24 |
| \sh | no..only the desktop | 07:24 |
| \sh | Categorie:GNOME; == gnome only... | 07:24 |
| herve | ha yes | 07:25 |
| \sh | https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/346 | 07:25 |
| herve | I wonder about reporting the bug upstream | 07:25 |
| \sh | this guy didn't mention it, so I had to use my glasball :) | 07:25 |
| \sh | well it's a gnome application, for a gnome package it's ok | 07:25 |
| herve | your bug should be pending upload :-p | 07:26 |
| herve | your package is ok for me | 07:27 |
| \sh | k ;) | 07:27 |
| herve | s/for/to ? | 07:27 |
| herve | well, it was easy to review :-) | 07:27 |
| \sh | ok...now we're waiting for someone to upload ,) | 07:35 |
| === herve lights candles | ||
| \sh | I should brew a can of coffee and I should have a refreshing shower..my day was terrible... | 07:39 |
| \sh | (the change to ubuntu was fun, but the rest :() | 07:39 |
| herve | you can go | 07:39 |
| herve | I'll tell our uploader your package is ok | 07:39 |
| \sh | k...tagtool and conglomerate | 07:40 |
| \sh | btw | 07:40 |
| \sh | psi | 07:40 |
| \sh | we should check the repository of fedora | 07:40 |
| herve | tagtool ? | 07:41 |
| herve | I didn't saw it on your url | 07:41 |
| \sh | #411 | 07:41 |
| \sh | u reviewed it yesterday | 07:41 |
| herve | ha ok | 07:41 |
| herve | there was a directory for conglomerate | 07:41 |
| \sh | http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/index1.php?path=tagtool | 07:41 |
| herve | well for now, my dns seems dead | 07:42 |
| \sh | finally, it can be that fedora patched psi | 07:42 |
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| Burgundavia_ | \sh, conglomerate has a .desktop in conglomere-common binary package | 08:06 |
| herve_ | Burgundavia_, yes but it is misleading | 08:07 |
| Burgundavia_ | herve, misleading? | 08:07 |
| herve_ | category GNOME | 08:08 |
| \sh | Burgundavia_: the bug was: it's not displayed anywhere else then gnome | 08:08 |
| Burgundavia_ | ahh | 08:08 |
| \sh | and I'm a stupid...I forgot to re-enable the most important stuff on my server | 08:09 |
| \sh | postfix and cyrus imapd | 08:09 |
| \sh | i have to hurry | 08:09 |
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| \sh | I hope I'll get everything right...migrating cyrus imapd is not easy from one system to another | 08:34 |
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| \sh | how can I change libdb4 to libdb3 ?,-) | 08:46 |
| herve | \sh, what's the problem? | 08:47 |
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| \sh | herve: well...i had cyrus-imapd 2.2.x running and the latest version is in ubuntu 2.1 | 08:49 |
| \sh | 2.1 is running with libdb3 and i need libdb4 | 08:49 |
| herve | what is the name of the package? | 08:50 |
| \sh | cyrus21-imapd but i need cyrus22 | 08:51 |
| \sh | http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-cyrus-imapd/ | 08:51 |
| \sh | experimental | 08:51 |
| herve | that's the point, I don't see it in debian | 08:51 |
| \sh | hehe yeah | 08:51 |
| \sh | its in experimental state I will try :) | 08:52 |
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| \sh | well...the deps are all there *phew* | 08:57 |
| \sh | if this is working...well.. | 09:06 |
| herve | I'm green | 09:19 |
| herve | (to use a French expression) | 09:19 |
| herve | I though dia 0.94.0-7 fixed my problem | 09:19 |
| herve | but the version compiled in ubuntu got the same issue in building ps files | 09:20 |
| herve | I guess the problem is in a build-dependency then | 09:20 |
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| \sh | hmmm | 10:05 |
| \sh | how can I dertermine which package depends on X? | 10:05 |
| crimsun | X? | 10:05 |
| crimsun | as in the X Window System, or $package_X? | 10:06 |
| \sh | $package_X | 10:06 |
| crimsun | apt-cache rdepends X | 10:06 |
| \sh | thx | 10:07 |
| crimsun | np | 10:07 |
| herve | crimsun, will you be our uploader tonight? :-) | 10:23 |
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| \sh | hmm | 10:59 |
| \sh | pop3 is running with sasl | 10:59 |
| \sh | but not imap | 10:59 |
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| herve | good night! | 11:12 |
| \sh | yipiieh | 11:18 |
| \sh | my imap is running again | 11:18 |
| \sh | now with sasl+mysql | 11:18 |
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