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[01:21] not yet [01:21] I don't fly out until saturday :) [01:21] or most people who live in the northern hemisphere ;) [01:21] :) [01:22] some of the main developers will be at LCA already [01:22] sadly I couldn't go this year [01:22] me either [01:23] I went to LCA in adelaide last year, it was great fun :) [01:23] cool.. [01:45] ajmitch: I'm still at home. =) === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:33] yeah well you are moving to montreal so there is something strange about you === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu === D-FENZ [~dfenz@220-253-89-211.QLD.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matth [matth@uruk-hai.bioinformatics.unsw.EDU.AU] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zorglub [~zorglub@wahe.diwi.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === desrt [~desrt@freedesktop.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [~bddebian@pcp08717087pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elmo [~james@83-216-141-215.jamest298.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu === D-FENZ [~dfenz@220-253-89-211.QLD.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matth [matth@uruk-hai.bioinformatics.unsw.EDU.AU] has joined #ubuntu-motu === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-151-205-45-125.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:53] ahoy hoy [03:54] ahoy. [03:55] looking at an XFCE menu issue... lots of duplicates and a big honking list labeled 'Applications' [03:55] lol [03:55] yeah, I'm not sure what to do about that. [03:56] Benny's xfdesktop changes include Xfld's menu code [03:56] and the snapshot I imported wasn't 4.2.1.1, it was 4.3 cvs [03:56] which means while the menu actually works, it has those duplicates. [03:57] it looks like it's taking the .desktop files from multiple locations... a lot of the entries match both the gnome copy, and the menu-xdg one [03:58] I can patch the xfdesktop code to look only at gnome-menu's [03:58] I want to avoid pushing _too_ many changes, though, because we're already fairly divergent from Debian [03:59] experimental went straight xfce.org, whereas Jani and I went os-works.com [03:59] personally, I'd prefer the menu-xdg, 'cause it's a better populated list on my box [03:59] but menu-xdg doesn't integrate as well with gnome-menu [03:59] and gnome integration is one of the things I wanted to push foremost [03:59] hmm.. [04:03] it's just odd that apps like kmail aren't in the main menus in GNOME or KDE, but only show up in the Debian menu after I run update-menus [04:05] kmail's menu entry probably needs to be fixed then. [04:05] and I'm starting to like XFCE... just installed it this morning :) [04:06] crimsun: it's not just kmail... most of the games I installed wouldn't show up in the GNOME menu... [04:06] darkaudit: those haven't been converted to use the new gnome-menu method. [04:06] though it's better if they're made to use fd.o's xdg spec [04:08] is Breezy (and GNOME 2.12) going to be more fd.o-compliant? [04:08] I can only hope so :) [04:11] hi all === goedson [~goedson@BHE054188.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] hi ajmitch_ === thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax7-177.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:59] Heya ajmitch_ === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh [~sh@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.134.11] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:24] <\sh> morning Burgundavia [06:24] salut [06:34] m00 [06:44] <\sh> hmmm [06:45] <\sh> switching from debian to gentoo is not the problem in a live enviroment [06:45] <\sh> but what about switching from gentoo to ubuntu [06:45] <\sh> in a live enviroment? [06:47] don't use gentoo in live environments ;) [06:47] <\sh> heheh [06:47] <\sh> it will be a test [06:47] <\sh> i want to change my rootie from gentoo to ubuntu ;) [06:47] "Yeah, I compiled my server with -O99 -mcpu=pentium5 -march=pentium6 -funroll-loops and prelinked it!!!!!!!111oneone!!11eleven" [06:48] <\sh> Treenaks: this is for geeks [06:48] <\sh> -O2 -pipe -march=athlon-xp -mcpu=athlon-xp is for me enough [06:48] <\sh> and working [06:48] Treenaks: don't forget -pipe; that gives you big optimisations :P [06:48] thom: oh yeah [06:49] <\sh> and -fomit-framepointer ;) [06:49] <\sh> but no, serious [06:49] \sh: sorry, that's the image that comes to mind when I hear people say they use gentoo.. [06:49] <\sh> jabber server, webserver with a couple of webpages on etc. have to be moved [06:50] <\sh> Treenaks: i know, I have to fight every single time against this picture [06:50] <\sh> not all of the gentoo guys are optimizing compiler flags fetishists [06:53] <\sh> well, i will ask on #debian ;) [06:57] \sh: I'd copy the config files and wwwroot to a newly installed debian machine [06:57] \sh: that's how I migrate from one piece of hardware to the next.. [06:58] <\sh> Treenaks: possible...any way of doing a ubuntu install remotely without sitting in the datacenter? [06:58] <\sh> (well, there is no remote insight board :() [06:59] \sh: serial console? [06:59] \sh: otherwise debootstrap :) [06:59] anyway.. off-to-work time.. [07:00] <\sh> for me too [07:00] <\sh> deboostrap [07:00] <\sh> yeah..emerge debootstrap [07:01] <\sh> there is a second hd, i could install ...mumble..yeah this will do [07:01] <\sh> finally fun over the day :) [07:01] <\sh> laters === ajmitch unfortunately does know some people who fit the gentoo stereotype [07:04] \sh: emerge debtakeover, possibly? === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@194.178.121.114] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:37] \sh: yea, definitely look at the debtakeover howto [07:57] people are asking about stuff that is not packaged for Ubuntu on the forums. Is there a good place for them to add their requests? [08:05] UniverseCandidates [08:05] on the wiki :) [08:06] oops [08:06] or the Debian New Maintainer's Guide :) [08:07] get packagin, bishes [08:07] ;) === schweeb goes to sleep [08:22] <\sh> re [08:24] <\sh> anydody awake who can review/upload [08:24] <\sh> ? [08:30] maybe.. 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[07:21] hmm... [07:22] I know what you mean but don't know how to tell it in English [07:23] <\sh> ah...i have to create a patch of jabberd2 [07:23] <\sh> there is an error in the init.d file [07:23] good! [07:23] so I can use it afterwards :-p [07:24] <\sh> well...it's easy [07:24] you had to fix anything in conglomerate? [07:24] or just change debian stuff? [07:24] <\sh> no..only the desktop [07:24] <\sh> Categorie:GNOME; == gnome only... [07:25] ha yes [07:25] <\sh> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/346 [07:25] I wonder about reporting the bug upstream [07:25] <\sh> this guy didn't mention it, so I had to use my glasball :) [07:25] <\sh> well it's a gnome application, for a gnome package it's ok [07:26] your bug should be pending upload :-p [07:27] your package is ok for me [07:27] <\sh> k ;) [07:27] s/for/to ? [07:27] well, it was easy to review :-) [07:35] <\sh> ok...now we're waiting for someone to upload ,) === herve lights candles [07:39] <\sh> I should brew a can of coffee and I should have a refreshing shower..my day was terrible... [07:39] <\sh> (the change to ubuntu was fun, but the rest :() [07:39] you can go [07:39] I'll tell our uploader your package is ok [07:40] <\sh> k...tagtool and conglomerate [07:40] <\sh> btw [07:40] <\sh> psi [07:40] <\sh> we should check the repository of fedora [07:41] tagtool ? [07:41] I didn't saw it on your url [07:41] <\sh> #411 [07:41] <\sh> u reviewed it yesterday [07:41] ha ok [07:41] there was a directory for conglomerate [07:41] <\sh> http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/index1.php?path=tagtool [07:42] well for now, my dns seems dead [07:42] <\sh> finally, it can be that fedora patched psi === herve rebooting its router === herve_ [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:06] \sh, conglomerate has a .desktop in conglomere-common binary package [08:07] Burgundavia_, yes but it is misleading [08:07] herve, misleading? [08:08] category GNOME [08:08] <\sh> Burgundavia_: the bug was: it's not displayed anywhere else then gnome [08:08] ahh [08:09] <\sh> and I'm a stupid...I forgot to re-enable the most important stuff on my server [08:09] <\sh> postfix and cyrus imapd [08:09] <\sh> i have to hurry === herve_ is now known as herve === motaboy [~motaboy@host65-36.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xtat [~xtat@caffeine.rapidpacket.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:34] <\sh> I hope I'll get everything right...migrating cyrus imapd is not easy from one system to another === xtat [~xtat@caffeine.rapidpacket.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> tolkien.freenode.net === bradb [~bradb@MTL-ppp-144647.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:46] <\sh> how can I change libdb4 to libdb3 ?,-) [08:47] \sh, what's the problem? === _matth [matth@uruk-hai.bioinformatics.unsw.EDU.AU] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] <\sh> herve: well...i had cyrus-imapd 2.2.x running and the latest version is in ubuntu 2.1 [08:49] <\sh> 2.1 is running with libdb3 and i need libdb4 [08:50] what is the name of the package? [08:51] <\sh> cyrus21-imapd but i need cyrus22 [08:51] <\sh> http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-cyrus-imapd/ [08:51] <\sh> experimental [08:51] that's the point, I don't see it in debian [08:51] <\sh> hehe yeah [08:52] <\sh> its in experimental state I will try :) === _matth [matth@uruk-hai.bioinformatics.unsw.EDU.AU] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:57] <\sh> well...the deps are all there *phew* [09:06] <\sh> if this is working...well.. [09:19] I'm green [09:19] (to use a French expression) [09:19] I though dia 0.94.0-7 fixed my problem [09:20] but the version compiled in ubuntu got the same issue in building ps files [09:20] I guess the problem is in a build-dependency then === bradb [~bradb@MTL-ppp-144647.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:05] <\sh> hmmm [10:05] <\sh> how can I dertermine which package depends on X? [10:05] X? [10:06] as in the X Window System, or $package_X? [10:06] <\sh> $package_X [10:06] apt-cache rdepends X [10:07] <\sh> thx [10:07] np [10:23] crimsun, will you be our uploader tonight? :-) === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:59] <\sh> hmm [10:59] <\sh> pop3 is running with sasl [10:59] <\sh> but not imap === trulux [~lorenzo@trulux.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] good night! [11:18] <\sh> yipiieh [11:18] <\sh> my imap is running again [11:18] <\sh> now with sasl+mysql === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-151-205-45-125.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-151-205-45-125.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maskie [~maskie@196-30-109-242.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu