[12:00] ooh, thx, NotANick [12:00] Abood, no offence, but 'doesn't work [12:00] stopabuse: no problem...I'm here to help, further the cause of ubuntu and all that [12:00] ' doen't help :) [12:00] it tells me i should run sudo apt-get update to fix the gpg problems [12:00] i run it again, and it gives me the same thing [12:00] hmm my skype is ringing. I can accept calls and IM's. Everything seems to work it is just that nobody can hear me and I can hear nobody. Who has an idea to solve this [12:00] vordhosbn, I think what you can do is adding an udev rule to choose what /dev/xxx is created for your ipod, then using this in /etc/fstab [12:00] sudo installed? [12:00] femv: why not use gnome-sudo dhclient eth0? [12:00] slappy16, : ldconfig and libncurses5-dev didnt work [12:00] nickrud, its running now on the lowest resolution and i tried to change it insde the gnome application, but there are no choices ?!? [12:00] anyone have experience with live cd and ACPI? The boot is still halting even with noacpi or pci=noacpi /msg me if you can help [12:00] phanter: turn up the microphone volume [12:01] dantheman: Er...Hrm. I dunno. Lemme check my own sources.list to make sure I gave you the right information [12:01] private query me please since i'm studying for a test so cant follow the channel [12:01] ok, im gunna find it now [12:01] NotANick: Thank you for helping us with the cause, comrade! [12:01] ABood: ah, generic. I think I can help. [12:01] the mic volume is perfect. it is something else [12:01] femv: you'll need to type a password, which isn't ideal [12:01] does anyone of you know how to get older versions of packages, that were already removed from the archive? [12:01] SeamusLP: Viva la revolucion! [12:01] i'm doing a gpg thing from ubuntuguide....i think that'll fix it === St0n3-C0l [~stonecol@202.141.240.1] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] phanter: does it work in other programs, like sound recorder apps? [12:01] djm62 ur right === tbird [~tbird@pcp427550pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] vordhosbn, then gnome-volume-manager will use what you put in /etc/fstab (with a noauto option!) when you plug in your ipod [12:01] dantheman: I did. =P ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main [12:02] jnk: thanks, ill try that [12:02] do less /etc/X11/xorg.conf , and look for the section called monitor. [12:02] dantheman: change where it sais unstable to testing, and then udpate and it should owrk [12:02] hmm, I just gotta say, I have been away from the linux front for just a couple of weeks due to workload and other engagements, and I was startled to see Ubuntu to be at the top of the list on distrowatch.com. I finally downloaded it yesterday to check it out, and I am in love! [12:02] there, it works correctly now [12:02] femv: there are ways to do it, but they mostly compromise security [12:02] dantheman: Awesome. [12:02] anyone had a problem with 2.6.11 kernel panicing about root=/dev/hda4 or whatever your is ? === theine [~theine@83.72.197.119.ip.tele2adsl.dk] has joined #ubuntu [12:02] djm62... for example ? [12:03] tbird: lilo or grub? [12:03] I was a mepis guy for a while, and I do have a copy of Xandros deluxe, but Xandros doesn't feel as customizable, as Ubuntu. Ubuntu has the "it just works" touch that Xandros has, at 100% of the cost [12:03] grub [12:03] are you using labels? [12:03] femv: you could do "sudo chmod +s `which dhclient`" [12:03] love it, just thought I would say that for any developers out there [12:03] Abood: does it have anything saying VertRefresh? [12:03] slappy16, it had the same entry as my 2.6.10 kernel [12:03] Hi, is it possible to include videos in openoffice2 presentations? [12:03] anybody here know how to get ee working in ubuntu? [12:03] is 2.6.10 using labels? [12:03] nickrud, i already did, i can find all the depth types 1 to 24 but with just 1 resolution the lowest one i dont remmber what its exactly [12:03] hi i have the following problem... http://rafb.net/paste/results/6jLZwQ20.html .. how to get my dhcpd to run? [12:03] femv: it's an ugly solution, and I'm really hoping someone will jump down my throat with a better one [12:03] slappy16, what you mean by labels ? [12:03] no the other program cannot record anything, but I can hear myself via the mic and the speakers. [12:04] nickrud, and tried to checnge the resolution but also not working === nitin [~nitin@pool-71-107-95-28.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] nm, got it === jovian [~jovian@c-24-118-74-107.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:04] Abood: that's not what we're looking for, we need to enter the exact horizontal and vertical refresh [12:04] for your monitor. [12:04] hey all, is universal equivalent to testing in debian? [12:04] aha from where i can change the, nickrud ? [12:04] is helix player supposed to be able to play back realaudio sources? [12:04] djm62 you meansudo chmod +s dhclient so that any user can go for it ? === Greek0 [~greek0@81.189.246.175] has left #ubuntu [] [12:04] I thinki it is testing + some [12:05] femv: yeah...if you're the only user, that might be acceptable [12:05] hyphenated: no the other program cannot record anything, but I can hear myself via the mic and the speakers. [12:05] Abood, exactly what monitor make and model do yo have? [12:05] whens beagel being released into brreezy? [12:05] btw, nice handle slappy === fazer [~fazer@CPE0050f276c615-CM0012c90fe42a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:05] bah === torpid [~pral@h-68-167-206-161.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #UBUNTU [12:05] ty! [12:05] after con [12:05] *after configuring Ubuntu [12:05] slappy was that bunny off of tiny tunes [12:05] you feel awesome [12:05] phanter: yet you expect skype to work, even though no other program will? [12:06] nickrud, Compaq S710, 30-70 , 50-160 [12:06] < live CD question I really want to install Ubuntu Today, but I want to first get the live CD to work... it is still halting at an ACPI line even with noacpi typed [12:06] hyphenated: i just found out. === whiteknight_ [~whiteknig@81-178-230-92.dsl.pipex.com] has left #ubuntu [] [12:06] djm62 its telling me no such file [12:06] phanter: alrighty. you know where the 'volume control' stuff is? === flosch [~flosch@flosch.user] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] Abood: I'm going to post a snippet of my xorg.conf on pastebin wait one [12:06] hyphenated: yes [12:06] femv: I meant literally "sudo chmod +s `which dhclient`" [12:07] phanter: there should be controls for input as well as output. [12:07] nickrud ok [12:07] anyone know why Ubuntu doesn't come with wine, and, when u look around for wine support the unofficial starter guide suggests Crossover Office? === thr1ce [~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #ubuntu === Kakalto [~me@wired-210-54-56-176.ps.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] femv: the `which dhclient` will expand to become the location of dhclient [12:07] hey guys [12:07] hey kakalto [12:07] If i don't need any ports open except websurfing what ports can i forward to a non existent machine? [12:07] has teh first shipment of ubuntu cd's left the warehouse yet? [12:07] ok; how tough is it to run a "bleeding edge" ubuntu? [12:07] http://pastebin.com/272547 [12:07] Seibol maybe licensind/patent issues or something like that. [12:07] like...everything update [12:07] just changed a few repositories ? [12:07] thats my menu.lst [12:07] thought wine was open [12:08] abood: http://www.pastebin.com/272548 [12:08] thr1ce: yeh, sounds about right [12:08] hyphenated: i know. I turned them both up and the only thing that changes is that i get crazy of sounds comming out of my pc (:)). linux knows my mic and sends the output to the speakers === netmonk [~netmonk@nat-18.c0msys.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:08] abood: compare that to your xorg.conf (in /etc/X11) === netmonk [~netmonk@nat-18.c0msys.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:08] Kakalto, ok; I run slackware -current, and wanted something like that pretty much === olive [~olive@d213-103-21-45.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:08] tbird: you using initrd.img? [12:08] is there any tutorial how to speed up gnome ? since 2 weeks or so memory usage breaks the sky (192 mb ram) and my hd is working as if its going to get killed if it does not. do you recommend to change with that littel ram to icewm or anything else ? === bur[n] er [~norml@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:08] are you talking about 0 and 1? [12:09] slappy16, im using what Ubuntu gave by default === femv [~freddy@201.243.140.250] has joined #ubuntu === vpalle [~vpalle@park222.koll.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] mmm doritos [12:09] thr1ce: I don't know much about slackware, but I know if you want the newest ubuntu, update your repositories all to breezy [12:09] where is your default? [12:09] slappy16, kernel 2.6.10-5-386 works fine [12:09] dockane: really that should be plenty....how many programs are you running at once? [12:09] slappy16, it a kernel from apt [12:10] well synaptic [12:10] djm62, i closed this up.. what were u saying bout the chmod [12:10] breezy is the next release ? [12:10] yeah === flosch [~flosch@flosch.user] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"] [12:10] femv: literally type "sudo chmod +s `which dhclient`" [12:10] guys when i switch to a console and back my whole system crashes (its probably because of FGLRX (9700 pro)) anyone know how to fix this... [12:10] ok; and does anyone have an ATI card, 8500 or newer, with 3d accel ? [12:10] oh sweet! [12:10] so, until october, it's unstable [12:10] I can make xfce look like aqua this is AWESOME [12:10] thr1ce, yes i do === JDahl [~qwerty@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2u1-63.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] how do I turn everything off when I boot LIVE cd??? I keep halting at ACPI and I have that off too [12:11] femv: including the back-ticks (next to the 1 key on my keyboard) [12:11] nitin, how tough is 3d accel to set up in ubuntu ? [12:11] thr1ce, but i crash when switching back and fro console [12:11] thr1ce, what card u have? [12:11] what' === telemaco [~telemaco@84.77.36.6] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] 9700 pro [12:11] fazer: why would you want it to look like aqua? [12:11] good moaning. [12:11] what's the command to configure xorg? === dantheman [~dan@wm135-207.resnet.wm.edu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:11] thr1ce, lol..same card heres the steps: [12:11] xorgconfig [12:11] cens0red: good moaning. [12:11] nitin, i've compiled from source before; just curious if it's easier in ubuntu [12:11] thr1ce, much easier [12:12] thr1ce: I wouldn't be surprised if the details were on the ubuntu wiki [12:12] djm62 oki brb [12:12] < wonders if my question is too noob to even warrant an answer? [12:12] Kakalto g [12:12] day [12:12] lol [12:12] moan [12:12] nitin, just curious; what do you get from glxgears ? [12:12] NotANick: because I like macs! :P [12:12] Reblended: I don't know if anyone here has experience of the livecd [12:12] NotANick: wait, i hope it doesn't tak emore cpu cycles =( === plett [~paul@blue.plett.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [12:12] linux will not capture the sounds recorded by the microphone. It does send the recordings directly to the speakers. What could be wrong? [12:13] djm62, lol ok... well, I'll keep pluggin away [12:13] 6519 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1303.800 FPS === Zugot [~bryan@pcp0010860530pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:13] djm62, the "daily" parallel usage of my system (laptop) contents firefox with 1-7 tabs, 1 or 2 terminals, xchat, teamspeak client (VoIP) and a file manager [12:13] on a 9700 pro ? [12:13] djm62, I hope I get plenty of experience to share later with someone else. =] [12:13] phanter I went through that problem about 24 hrs ago. [12:13] nah a FX5200 [12:13] phanter what soundcard do u have? Any idea? [12:13] 7000 fps here [12:13] cens0red: wait i'll check [12:13] nice [12:14] nitin, what do you get from glxgears ? [12:14] make sure you cover the gears with the terminal, so it is hidden === csete [~csete@67-41-70-240.roch.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] ndiswrapper is doing me wrong today [12:14] Hello. Any ATI framebuffer gurus around? === dcraven [~dcraven@CPE000f3d5d5cd1-CM014340007726.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] < --- a mighty 9000 fps [12:14] isint that cheating [12:14] dockane: doesn't sound terrible [12:15] cens0red, with ? [12:15] thats like minimizing it === no0tic [~no0tic@host35-94.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:15] lol [12:15] no, covering up is accurate [12:15] hi all [12:15] thr1ce glxgears. [12:15] making it smaller is cheating === NotANick [~Cryptogno@Lee-11-133.rh.ncsu.edu] has left #ubuntu [] [12:15] cens0red, LOL, what card! [12:15] 18265 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3653.000 FPS [12:15] has teh first shipment of ubuntu cd's left the warehouse yet? [12:15] thr1ce ge4 128 meg. [12:16] yeah 9000 fp5s really. [12:16] Can anyone give me a hand getting an ATI Radeon 9250 working correctly with framebuffer? [12:16] ahh... i think i deserve a cig break === djm62 was doing well not smoking till right then [12:16] nitin, are you here... ? [12:17] ok so im using Breezy anyone know of issues with 2.6.11 in Breezy === NotANick [~me@Lee-11-133.rh.ncsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:17] tbird: I've heard of crashes related to inotify [12:18] SeamusLP: yo [12:18] tbird: what issues are you having? i'm gonna boot breezy up in vmware real quick and then put a 2.6.11 kernel on it... [12:18] djm62, it panics saying root= is undefined or wrong [12:18] ok; and running the pre-release...is it generally pretty stable ? [12:18] but the entry is exact to the 2.6.10 that works === dcraven is now known as dcraven_ [12:18] well aside from the ovious version changes [12:18] what option in xorg would I pick for a Radeon 9800XT? [12:18] when it asks for memory usage [12:19] just ATI radeon === norris [~norris@user-1120dpo.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] http://pastebin.com/272547 thats my menu.lst === nitin_ [~nitin@pool-71-107-95-28.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] I don't see that option, I see a list with 256k, 512k, etc [12:19] memory leave blank, it will default === xim [~simonp@toronto-HSE-ppp4294425.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] ok [12:19] 256k? [12:19] who was asking about fglrx ati 9700 pro? === dcraven_ is now known as dcraven [12:20] that can't be right [12:20] cens0red: you have an idea how to find that out (i have an ibm thinkpad t42) [12:20] djm62, no it does not. but those 3-5 minutes where working is impossible because of swapping or whatever is unacceptable [12:20] ghostfreeman, you should look into installing ATI's proprietary drivers. They have a pretty clear walkthrough, and they definately run better [12:20] i sold my 9800XT when i switched to linux exclusively on the desktop [12:21] it sucks under xorg [12:21] phanter do something for me. In a terminal type "lsmod |grep snd" [12:21] Zugot, yep [12:21] i went back to a ti4600 from nvidia and it worked well. === tga [~tga@S0106000f66aeaf64.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] ati is pretty bad no matter what for linux [12:21] hey all....where is libncurses4-dev in warty???? [12:21] plus, i don't play anymore games, so there really is no need for it === tz273 [~root@226.100-182-adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] Zugot: voodoo3, stable, tested :) === RichiH [richih@richih.staff.freenode] has left #ubuntu [] [12:21] Hi! I want to masquerade a subnet over a ppp connection, but i really cant make it! I use the iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE command, my subnet iface is eth0, and ppp0 is over eth1. What should i do? [12:21] dockane: it might be right (was looking at my stats) [12:21] smart.. all ubuntu systems more or less phone home [12:21] fglrx on 9700 pro crashes when i run glxgears [12:21] nickrud: hardy har har [12:21] we are having a problem finding ncurses4-dev libs in warty, is it in universal? === Kakalto [~me@wired-210-54-56-176.ps.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] djm62, i found the ubuntu-ram-howto, sounds encouragin === green_earz [~peter@213-232-83-67.dsl.prodigynet.co.uk] has joined #Ubuntu [12:22] cens0red: did that. it is an AC97, do you need the rest of the output as well? === abood [~abood@adsl100.col12.cyberia.jo] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] *mini-ram [12:22] slappy16: probally because it should be ncurses5 now [12:22] can someone give me a url for sources.list to get curses? [12:22] er ignore me === GhostFreeman [~ghostfree@64.193.71.168] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] but we cant make menuconfig w/ 5 [12:22] ah [12:22] are there any stats for the Ubuntu NTP server? all systems seem to be updating against it at every boot [12:22] phanter do u see "emu" in there anywhere? like "snd-emu10k1" is what I'm hoping for. [12:23] slappy16: hold on... i'm bringing up my breezy box right now... so i can build the kernel === Reblended [~Home@000f66b2cb66.click-network.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] cens0red: no there is nothing with emu in it [12:23] cens0red: what are you looking for? [12:23] Zugot: thanks very much [12:23] hey, I was reading on the ubuntu site about enterprise offerings, is there acutally an enterprise desktop or an ubuntu server? [12:23] tga I'm hoping he has the same sound drivers as me. Therefore the solution to his problem will be identical to the way I solved the same prob. === csete [~csete@67-41-70-240.roch.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:23] I'm installing Ubuntu from the hoary cd and with acpi shut off it stops at line: ACPI:Subsystem revision 20050211 any ideas? please msg me === ^thehatsrule^ [~hatbot@tehats.tetrinet-dal.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:24] nickrud, back dude the internet works fine [12:24] ... [12:24] Seibol: if you don't use the universe sources you pretty much get an enterprise desktop [12:24] any way to check what Hz rate i'm running? [12:24] reblended: what hardware u runnin it on?? [12:24] Seibol: reduced in scope but with security updates [12:24] Seibol, it's a sony vaio p3 laptop [12:24] Seibol, 384megs ram [12:24] cool tga [12:24] phanter damn. Ah well. How I solved it was to install a package called aumix-gtk. It's basically a good gui for your sound mixer. Try installing it, and boosting the "line-in" option on the panel. === Anti-T [~antit@lon92-5-82-235-208-97.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === Anti-T [~antit@lon92-5-82-235-208-97.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:25] what about Ubuntu Server? === St0n3-C0l [~stonecol@202.141.240.1] has joined #ubuntu [12:25] cens0red: oke i will try that [12:25] Seibol: I remeber reading about the 'enterprise' version that's supported longer, check out the webpage [12:25] Reblended: u turn off ACPI support in the bios? [12:25] cens0red, LOL you're typing in white? I gotta change my background color [12:25] ohh! great idea.. thx Seibol [12:25] brb Seibol [12:25] Seibol: why an ubuntu server. For servers I would like to recommend debian [12:25] or APM [12:26] GhostFreeman, xvidtune [12:26] just was curious, Ubuntu desktop and Ubuntu Server [12:26] for servers use gentoo [12:27] lol [12:27] LFS all the way [12:27] what repository is the xorg-fglrx package on? [12:27] universe? [12:27] vordhosbn, restricted-main? [12:27] ok, thanks [12:27] oh, it's restricted [12:27] hmm i think that debian is more stable then gentoo. but everybody his/her own oponion [12:27] how do i enable that? [12:27] for servers, linspire ;) [12:27] use synaptic [12:27] W: Unable to locate package xorg-fglrx [12:27] hahaha [12:27] system-administration->synaptic package manager [12:28] you mentioned the evil l-word in here === cafuego_ is now known as cafuego [12:28] nitin_: i am using synaptic, and as far as i know, restricted is already enabled [12:28] debian can be a real pain in the ass to set up a server [12:28] hmm [12:28] Seibol: as opposed to? [12:28] tga: rhel [12:28] sarge's installer isn't half bad [12:28] Windows Small Business Server 2003 [12:28] Seibol is ubuntu any better? (I haven't set up a server yet. One day I'll get around to it.) [12:28] if you're running a server, debian's ok [12:28] tga [12:28] i have the xfree-fglrx [12:28] Seibol: check out the debian sarge installer. [12:28] ack, jnk peered! :O === dockane_ [~dockane@p5084CFB3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] Zugot: what does RHEL do for a server that Debian doesn't? [12:28] err, i have it available [12:29] lost connection [12:29] my website is hosted on debian, I believe. [12:29] tga... uh have specific support agreements with oracle. [12:29] vordhosbn, add these reps http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories [12:29] green_earz: that really is the only debian I use [12:29] have real support for "everything" included in the dist [12:29] and /maintaining/ that server on debian, indefinitely, for free is rather easy [12:29] i can call redhat if i don't think amanda works right... [12:29] oke I found this very strange. I use the alsa mixer, but in gnome my volume control tells me that it is steering an oss mixer (but eventhough it works fine) ?!?! [12:29] Zugot: nevermind the support, I was thinking about configuration tools [12:29] plus redhat network satellite is just a cool ass tool [12:29] nitin_: i already did that, but maybe ill try downloading their sources.list [12:30] when you have hundreds of servers rhn-satellite is really nice [12:30] anyone know of a good CD burning utility? [12:30] phanter: alsa-oss - ALSA OSS-compatibility application wrapper [12:30] phanter u didn't try aumix-gtk? (btw, I think that's weird too.) [12:30] cdroast [12:30] i suppose k3b would be tough without kde [12:30] cdrecorder [12:30] nero :) [12:30] cens0red: yes just installed it, but how do i run it :) [12:30] apt-get can suck if you have 100s of machines updating and 100s of different configs to manage. [12:30] phanter $aumix-gtk [12:30] thr1ce: you can use it === mjg59 [mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu === dedinje [~dedinje@pool-71-106-203-95.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] vordhosbn, i remmeber i did not do much to get the drivers, maybe your overlooking something? [12:30] phanter $aumix [12:30] i just say the right tool for the job [12:31] I never used xchat before, is red lettering public? [12:31] Zugot: cfengine [12:31] Zugot: ook, what's the alternative then? [12:31] vordhosbn, in anycase, they suck, my system crashes when running glxgears === piotr__ [~piotr@pro-nat2.lama.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu [12:31] wow... [12:31] slappy16: have you configured cfengine? === bassMonkey [~fgrano@dsl-hkigw3o4f.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:31] glxgears crashes the system ? === MuinainenKoski [MuinainenT@dsl-roigw4ne-54f8b0e4.dsl.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu [] === Reblended [~Home@000f66b2cb66.click-network.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:31] damn === tsume_ pets nvidia geforce fx 5200.. === billy-420 [~billy@c-67-169-168-87.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:31] ya, i used 1.x alot and briefly with 2x [12:31] i'm just saying rhel isn't bad when you know how to use it... thats all i'm saying [12:31] glxgears works great for me :) [12:31] I was not asked to setup ROOT PASSWORD during installation...how do I do that now? === samy [~samy@plr75-1-81-57-50-174.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:32] Zugot: well, you can use ssh key logins with a lot of flexibility...but dedicated tools are also good ;) [12:32] how effecient is apt-get? will removing a package leave various files behind, or will it really do a clean job ? [12:32] i just default all off and add functionality as i need it [12:32] Zugot: rh allows root logins over ssh, they are evil and rh is bad [12:32] rhe seems like the only mainstream solution for enterprise [12:32] djm62: you aren't thinking large enough [12:32] Zugot: also outdated/backported software sucks. [12:32] tsume_: are you a bsd person? [12:32] cens0red: aumix does not change the status of my problem (sorry to tell you) [12:32] tsume_: not true. allowing root logins over ssh isn't bad if you have taken the steps to secure things [12:32] slappy16: yes, and a linux person(only if the distro has updated software) === hypno [~dan@pjmvpc1ddr1.pjmv.aber.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:32] tsume_: rhel is all about stability. i'm not talking about fedora core [12:33] as soon as breezy becomes somewhat stable, I'm going to use it === a_peck [~peck@146.Red-217-126-140.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] well I guess you can go suse, but I will always have something against Novell till they dump Netware all together [12:33] phanter did u try pumping up i-gain ? [12:33] what's the deal with gam_server? It keeps starting and not letting me unmount things [12:33] :) [12:33] ok; any place I can browse what packages are in current repositories for ubuntu ? preferably the latest and greatest ? [12:33] Zugot: rh ran ruby 1.6 for the greatest while, now I bet they run 1.8.0 just because they are idiots === AngelGabriel [~angel@host81-133-190-29.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] tsume_: i think you are confused. [12:34] Zugot: no. [12:34] Hi everyone! === tz273 [~tz@226.100-182-adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] RH make products that work === yure [~yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] thr1ce, I just do searches in synaptic === liable_ [~linux@dialup-235.188.220.203.acc01-apli-cai.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] both ubuntu and suse are good distributions, i've got the two installed on my hard drive disk, but now i only use Ubuntu [12:34] djm62: RH makes pain [12:34] anyone ever play with tinysofa? [12:34] cens0red: hey wait... there we are... I am off and running eeuh recording [12:34] djm62: funny, when I used it I made programs crash all the time [12:34] Where can i set the commands i want to execute, when my dsl-connection is set up? [12:34] RH makes my ass, itch [12:34] tsume_: you don't understand. just because you can spell linux doesn't make you qualified. i'm talking from experience. rhel has its place. [12:34] frank__, well, i'm not on ubuntu yet...thinking about switching from my current distro [12:34] lol slappy [12:34] djm62: if it can't get by me with simple bugs, its not stable === abood [~abood@adsl100.col12.cyberia.jo] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] phanter good. same problem. well, bad actually. There shouldn't be a problem in the first place. [12:35] Zugot: actually what makes me qualified is experience. [12:35] what are you using now thrlce? [12:35] slackware [12:35] thr1ce, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [12:35] ah... this #ubuntu we are way off topic [12:35] cens0red: hmm you use skype? [12:35] Zugot: questioning my knowledge in such a rude manner is very negative === Ffouf [~Ffouf@82.224.163.225] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] phanter no. What is skype? [12:35] tsume_: making assertions with no foundation is negative [12:35] hahaha [12:35] i had to speak in a language you understood [12:35] cens0red: never mind :) thanks anyway [12:35] Seibol, slackware [12:35] slackware: now there is one I always stayed away from [12:35] Zugot: I believe I talk from more experience than you, I use linux machines all day, and some of them drive me bannanas [12:35] please, guys..this reminds me of reservoir dogs === closure [~ubel@adsl-065-013-010-009.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] Seibol, why ? [12:35] would everyone being forced at gunpoint to buy redhat leave, and everyone else not worry about it [12:36] thrlce , switch on ubuntu , it's the best linux distribution i tested from my point of view ( i tested mandrake 10.1, suse 9.2 and the last Ubuntu version ) === idaho45 [~john@201.243.31.212] has joined #ubuntu === [EVO] tankabbot [~[EVO] tank@host81-152-247-158.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:36] Zugot: were you able to bring up that breezy box for libncurses4-dev? [12:36] Zugot: speak in your own langauge like that again and I'll have to ignore you. I dislike arrogance. [12:36] i always had problems with mandrake and suse when connecting an USB peripheric === tm17h [~tom@c-24-218-179-18.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:36] slappy16: let me check... i booted it in the background [12:36] yo is there a gui based top? [12:36] ok, sorry..i dont wanna bother you [12:36] like for kde/gnome? [12:36] grossview [12:37] gkrellm [12:37] osview [12:37] xosview? [12:37] closure, applications->System tools->System monitor [12:37] slappy16, are any of these pre installed with ubuntu? [12:37] kde has a system monitor thing [12:37] gnome too [12:37] what's wrong with slackware? === DeepMind [~stefan@c-f77272d5.022-100-70697410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] i dont know [12:37] i wish people wouldn't get so sensitive about differen't distros [12:37] gkrellm, might be [12:37] they all have their merits.. [12:37] or even OSes [12:37] well most do [12:38] its religion, man [12:38] hmm I use gnome. it has a standard mixer (the one in the taskbar). It currently uses the OSS mixer, but I would like it to use the aumix mixer. How can i change that [12:38] screw religion [12:38] vi vs emacs, perl vs python [12:38] yep [12:38] i know what the feds like.. [12:38] religious wars..sound familiar [12:38] notice religion just gets people all huffy [12:38] i know what my auditors from booz says works... [12:38] what is getty? [12:38] that's the point...people are afraid of their own choices: it can't be arbitrary, it MUST mean something [12:38] phanter go to System >>> Preferences >> multimedia system selector [12:39] slappy16: now i have to install gcc... [12:39] doh === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu [12:39] crap! === thrace [~thrace@69-171-73-55.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:39] Is it possible to download the Ubuntu Human theme somewhere (Clearlooks version if there is one)? (I'm not using Ubuntu myself therefore my question.) [12:39] it's easy with Synaptic [12:39] is that in build-essentials? === tsume_ dances [12:40] i think clearlooks is already installed on Ubuntu basic installation [12:40] lets see === [EVO] tankabbot [~tankabbot@host81-152-247-158.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu === fix [~fix@35.Red-83-33-169.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === wibo [~wibo@c207.134.135-132.clta.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] slappy16: i'm installing build-essentials now [12:41] hi [12:41] CS people are too arrogant for me :) [12:41] I'm using Gnome Baker to burn my CD's but for some reason, I can't access network drives when I go to open files. I can see my network connections in Places, on the toolbar, but not in applications, is there anyway I can see network places in my applications? [12:41] samy: Unfortunatly I'm not using Ubuntu, great distro but not for me. === tcwd [~Edward@tcwd.user] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] ahh, thanks zugot [12:41] somebody talk spanish?? [12:42] Seibol, I went in the bios and put acpi to maximum (no option to turn it off) = tried a boot and stops at ACPI:Subsystem revision 20050211 === hans_ [~hans@ti231110a080-1216.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] DeepMind, what are you using ? [12:42] fix: no ;) === Rinvash [~bleh@nat-147-226-226-217.bsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] fix: #ubuntu-es [12:42] slappy16: hey... i just install libncurses5-devel and "make menuconfig" works just fine [12:42] zugot: the guy looking for it just installed curses from source but now im questioning why this isnt in the universe branch [12:42] fix: ve a #ubuntu-es para ayuda todos en espanol [12:42] thanks tsume_ [12:42] thr1ce: I'm using Gentoo (no I'm not one of those optimizing nerds) [12:43] fix: :) [12:43] DeepMind, what about the cocky and arrogant nerds? :P [12:43] DeepMind >> lol ^^ [12:43] NOOOOOOoooo0o === Rinvash [~bleh@nat-147-226-226-217.bsu.edu] has left #ubuntu [] === Rinvash [~bleh@nat-147-226-226-217.bsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu === Rinvash is now known as Shavnir [12:43] no more distro sniping! === liable [~linux@dialup-235.188.220.203.acc01-apli-cai.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:43] sorry! [12:43] thr1ce: that would be 98% of all computer people === tm17h [~tom@c-24-218-179-18.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === tsume_ is glad hes in the 2% :) [12:43] tsume_, nah, not us slackware folk :) [12:44] we're all laid back and segregated [12:44] thr1ce: Hehe... [12:44] djm62: i agree [12:44] the only thing i reproach to Ubuntu is the fact that there's no firewall installed in the basic installation [12:44] thr1ce: hehe [12:44] though I am fascinated with ubuntu and thinking of testing her out [12:44] and firestarter doesn't want to start at the startup of my computer [12:44] thr1ce: well hopefully the trolls and arrogant people will stay away/leave the ubuntu community [12:44] no tables? [12:44] samy, are you sure, mine does [12:44] tsume_, i'm only kidding; just interested in ubuntu, and thinking of switching [12:45] thr1ce: might not suit you coming from slack, but it's free to try anyhow [12:45] I like people who know how to have a conversation, and dislike all the arrogance [12:45] When I access my network places, where are they mounted in the file system? === merhojt [~jimmy@h158n2c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:45] djm62, why do you say that ? [12:45] tsume_: let 'em stay in #debian where they belong :) [12:45] darkaudit: now now :) === Rav [~Nylira@cc71313-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:45] tsume_: you really need to read what you type. it seems that arrogance to you is anything you aren't ready to hear or see [12:45] debian people are not arrogant [12:45] phanter: bullshit [12:45] thr1ce: because slack does things differently enough....depends what you prefer [12:46] Zugot: no, arrogance would be subvertedly calling somebody stupid. [12:46] i can only launch Firestarter by lauching it with root [12:46] phanter: #debian people are another matter entirely [12:46] djm62, doesn't seem that different...taking a break from compiling might be a change i'm willing to accept [12:46] i am a debian user (thats why i love ubuntu as well) and i do not thin ki am arrogant === ikaro [~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] djm62, it's just tough for me; is apt-get efficient at what it does ? [12:46] thr1ce: very [12:46] yes very [12:46] slappy16: you get that make menuconfig working yet? === tsume_ is really angry at college kids and thier arrogance [12:46] Hrmph -- I'm trying to get another locale setup so that I can launch e.g. with LANG=es_ES gedit and get gedit in Spanish (really I want to test i18n on my own app). I've done this before but can't seem to get it working. I have added es_ES.UTF8 to locales.gen and run locale-gen, but running LANG=es_ES gedit still gets me "locale not supported by C library" errors. What am I missing? [12:46] question but on most of my avi playbacks I have just sound and no image.. anyone that can recomment a codec or a player? [12:46] thr1ce: it's like the Arthur C Clarke thing..."sufficiently advanced" [12:46] samy, i know but i think the port rules are respected without starting firestarter [12:46] well..the guy who was asking got it working with source, which i assume is not the ubuntu way [12:46] one of those people called the boss by his first name.. [12:47] djm62, I mean...if I remove a package, will it remove *everything* ? [12:47] zugot: did you find an efficient way? [12:47] in a mean manner.."no lenny.. you're wrong!" [12:47] or leave odds and ends files around [12:47] tm17h, have you done apt-get install locales to build es_ES? just a thought... [12:47] slappy16: i just installed ncurses5-devel, and it works [12:47] does anyone uses gmailfs? [12:47] cusco@cusco:~$ fusermount: old style mounting not supported [12:47] thr1ce: it caches the packages by default, but that can be cleaned if you want [12:47] really? ok, well..thank you again [12:47] let me find out for sure [12:48] thr1ce: do a purge instead of a simple remove === silversetsun [~blank@CPE0800200d8e54-CM014210006363.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] ok...remember i've never used an apt-get system before === jirwin [~amalby@c-67-170-158-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] i know a little, but not much [12:48] hello [12:48] i know if I installed ubuntu, coming from slac, I could pick it up pretty quick [12:48] has anyone gotten transcode to install? [12:49] thr1ce: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade then apt-get dist-upgrade [12:49] thr1ce: yeah...it makes sense [12:49] thats it [12:49] i love that [12:49] thr1ce: I usually use synaptic myself... only go to the command line when I must === LeeColleton [~lc@dsl231-061-247.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === theine [~theine@x1-6-00-11-24-09-2f-60.k324.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu === [EVO] tabbot [~tankabbot@host81-152-247-158.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] hm...ok [12:49] Is there a specific channel for support? === [EVO] tabbot [~tankabbot@host81-152-247-158.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:50] I wish someone had a clue what I could do about my HAL problem [12:50] has anyone been able to get transcode to install? [12:50] and the pre-release (breezy now); that's pretty stable? I know it's a pre-release, but... [12:50] Zugot: Your definition is part right. I don't like hearing any conversation which is disrespectful [12:50] jintxo: locales already installed. I'm running dpkg-reconfigure, though I believe this is just a script doing the same thing I jus tdid (editing locales.gen and running locales-gen) [12:50] tsume_: i was just defending linux... [12:50] Zugot: you don't have to [12:50] transcode is giving me failed dependancies errors. === cmonopoly72 [~cruzmonop@68-68-41-0.agstme.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === DonL [~don@d207-216-57-201.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] jirwin: where did you get transcode from? There are multiple repos with it available... === bc [~bc@cpe-24-90-94-112.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] Zugot: I wasn't telling you what was wrong with linux, I was telling you what was wrong with redhat [12:50] tsume_: no need to be so high-handed on what people should and shouldn't say [12:51] djm62: only if its disrespectful, and you are the boss :) [12:51] darkaudit, i have the sources file available from http://www.ubuntuguide.org === kakalto [~kakalto@wired-210-54-56-176.ps.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] cd '///home/bc/irclogs/freenode' [12:51] cd '///home/bc/irclogs' [12:51] cd '///home/bc/irclogs' [12:51] cd '///home/bc/irclogs/freenode' [12:51] what's wrong with Redhat? RPMs? :) [12:51] tsume_: and i was saying, if you understand what their goal is, and you know how to work with it, it is functional. [12:51] is it normal that i have been attacked 303 times on the internet as i can see in my firestarter events ? [12:51] djm62: colleve kids are the worst at being arrogant, they don't realise who gives them thier paycheck ;) [12:51] sorry! [12:51] tsume_: RH have a lot more money than me....so I'm slow to diss them [12:51] tm17h, yeah, I think it's just a script that does the locales-gen but it's worth a try. I don't know but maybe you are missing a step that dpkg does not miss... [12:52] Zugot: yes, but same with them are distros like mandrkae [12:52] we spent over 100k in redhat licenses this year, they treat us very well [12:52] had some kind of autopaste thing happening there... [12:52] Has anyone gotten their printer to work on Hoary? [12:52] Zugot: they get paid much money, and yet use old software. They call it stable [12:52] silversetsun, yes [12:52] jirwin: then IIRC that would be the Marillat repo... the cerkinfo repo has it as well, but has many more codec dependencies... he redid quite a few of them [12:52] tsume_: same goes for debian [12:52] would anyone here even consider installing woody for normal use? [12:52] which printer i must buy for a perfect compatiblity with my linux distribution ? [12:52] darkaudit, would you have any suggestions on how to get it installed? [12:52] silversetsun: yep... all depends on the printer [12:52] I'm having rather large issues with mine, jirwin. The printer acts like it's receiving data, and then nothing happens. I have the driver all set up. [12:52] silversetsun, my printer will not work directly from Thunderbird or Firefox [12:53] jintxo: Certainly likely I'd missed a step, but I'm afraid dpkg-reconfigure doesn't fix it for me. [12:53] tsume_: the old software is good. it helps with the development cycle. i know the software i have installed is absolutely guaranteed to work. rhel isn't a consumer level linux [12:53] Zugot: especially painful when you need the latest kernel, and its not exactly easy since they make so many changes which are needed for the OS to run. You can't always build your own kernel. === humbraro [~humbraro@c-67-170-151-66.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:53] Debian will catch up now they have a new head === cmonopoly72 [~cruzmonop@68-68-41-0.agstme.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:53] tsume_: more times than not, they roll the patches into their kernel... [12:53] silversetsun, what printer? === yojimbo-san [~yojimbo-s@203-97-50-115.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu === JonnySlack [~JabMe@toronto-HSE-ppp4164044.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [12:53] It's a Samsung CPL-400N. [12:53] looks like debian is the distribution i need. or does anybody know how to reduce memory demand ? [12:53] Zugot: yes, but for example, I've a Intel 2200BG, and I couldn't use it because the kernel changes and module were completely different between 2.6.8 and 2.6.10 [12:53] just because rhel 3 was running 2.4.21, didn't mean that you didn't get many benefits from 2.6.x in there === JonnySlack stabbs myself in the back === St0n3-C0l [~stonecol@202.141.240.1] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] silversetsun: have you looked at linuxprinting.org? [12:54] tsume_: are you talking about fedora core or rhel? i'm only defending rhel. fedora core is a mess [12:54] ubuntu demands too much memory? ;/ [12:54] It worked on my gentoo box. [12:54] Zugot: the Intel 2200BG is the only driver which works with my card, and they don't make backports for minor versions of kernels [12:54] tsume_: probably BeOS isn't appropriate for you either...it doesn't mean no-one should use or defend it [12:54] tsume_: i'm going to assume you are talking about fedora core... [12:54] sweet, blowfish encryption for passwords [12:54] not rhel [12:54] much more secure === bradybunchwashin [~popeye@adsl-60-232.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] Zugot: rhel, and other distros which use backported software [12:54] GUISlave, 192 MB on my laptop is not what you are dreaming of with ubuntu [12:55] tsume_: i just don't think you understand the need for an enterprise level linux distro. and no debian, slackware, and even ubuntu aren't it.... [12:55] tsume_: RHEL probably just isn't well suited for your application. none of the servers I run have Intel wifi adapters in them ;) [12:55] GUISlave, will try ubuntu on my desktop with 1 gb ram [12:55] NotANick: I'm not sure that passwords are the weak point in your security === JonnySlack slaps GUISlave... because he felt like it. [12:55] I have a gig of DDR 400 and it's fast [12:55] b2s: it should run anywhere ;) [12:56] tsume_: no, it shouldn't [12:56] In fact, it's not bad on a 700 mhz laptop with 512 [12:56] djm62: my install is solid as a brick now [12:56] i have 1.5GB on my laptop, and i haven't swapped in a couple of days [12:56] Zugot: anything can be enterprise level [12:56] djm62: that was the last weakness i needed to patch [12:56] tsume_: no... [12:56] Zugot: debian stable is enterprise level for NASA ;) [12:56] tsume_, well almost anything === Dekkard is back ( Away 1 hour 39 mins 39 secs ) [12:56] Mepis is another story === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-67-49-107-13.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:56] NotANick: the last one you _know_ about ;) [12:56] tsume_: rumors [12:56] Zugot: most run debian [12:56] running on 733/256 here, with multiple logins, no problem at all [12:56] Zugot: no [12:56] mepis, you're not liking it, GUISlave ? [12:56] back [12:56] I think [12:56] Zugot: theres a fellow from the ruby community who uses debian and ruby together [12:56] tsume_, zugot: NASA runs alittle of everything [12:56] No, it's bloated [12:57] slappy16: thats my point... [12:57] KDE, that is [12:57] slappy16: mostly debian however [12:57] they even ran sgi linux, for christ sake === djm62 prepares the rubber-hose cryptanalysis software === JonnySlack sucks the bloat out of ubunut [12:57] ic [12:57] and sgi linux was shit [12:57] Zugot: debian stable can be acceptable for some enterprise/industrial purposes. [12:57] slappy16: unless its a specialised server(SGI etc) [12:57] nope, it was x86 [12:57] 2u, 1200s..crappy [12:57] b2s... i don't disagree. [12:57] b2s: ubuntu stable can probably be used for enterprise now as well. it sure does have good devel. [12:57] sgi linux has a purpose [12:57] just was good as their failed attempt of NT w/ the 540's [12:57] there's no ACPI setting in my bios (sony laptop) and noacpi doesn't seem to work in the install or live cd's [12:58] sgi linux was redhat for crying out loud [12:58] well does ubuntu have the tools to be mass deployed? [12:58] Seibol, had... you mean 'had'. [12:58] any of you guys know much about HAL problems? [12:58] tsume_: I actually plan to do a test ubuntu install tonight at our datacenter [12:58] Reblended: what did you come up with [12:58] Zugot: out of interest, what's wrong with using a script and ssh keylogin to do it automatically? [12:58] strike that [12:58] had [12:58] Zugot: no, the Open Source community does however [12:58] djm62: thats how i do it [12:58] Seibol, Ok.. in my bios the only mention of ACPI was in the chip speed... so I set the speed to max... no effect [12:58] Zugot: GUI friendly doesn't mean enterprise level :) [12:58] http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9864 [12:58] sumo grappling! [12:59] djm62: how are you going to use a ssh session to provision a new server? [12:59] Zugot: or setting a cron job in the default and maintaining your own apt-repositor to save on bandwidth [12:59] Zugot: not does easy-as-in-1-min-seeing-it mean its ent level === susus [~sz@p5089F499.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] reblended, what is the vaio model number? === alper [~alper@85.99.222.75] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] Seibol, I'm reading up a bit on acpi, but I really don't care to use it... let the fan run full bore =p === Mayhem [~Mayhem@dsl-202-173-156-152.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] Seibol, PCG-fx190 [12:59] djm62: and i understand what you are getting at. everything is possible with work. but the question is .... does ubuntu supply those tools yet? no they don't. [12:59] b2s: I think.. ubuntu maintains a level of maturity rarely seen === slurpas [~slurpas@cust-012-063.tv-net.se] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] b2s: they listen to the community, and know what bugs are where === busfahrer` [~chris@ulm9-d9bb3562.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu === chinaski [~gaett@69-166-121-188.crlsca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] tsume_: as does redhat [01:00] b2s: which is what they need to do, instead of acting like arrogant twits like SuSE [01:00] Zugot- ubuntu hasn't been around nearly as long as redhat, and I don't think they're targeting businesses yet [01:00] tsume_, I too am impressed [01:00] GUISlave: i agree... [01:00] now when I try to install transcode it says it can't be installed because of libavcodeccvs [01:00] tsume_: yeah, it does seem that way. I just wish it was as easy to rebuild packages as under redhat (rpmbuild --rebuild something.src.rpm) [01:00] I don't understand these things.... :-/ === TheBoneSilver [~Amnesia@62-101-126-237.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] RPM sucks though. I'll take apt-get over it anyday. Ubuntu fits the bill for me [01:00] b2s: actually its easier with debian... [01:00] what laptops are 100% ubuntu friendly? (My sis's HP p4ht 2.3ghz seems to really like it!) === HrdwrBoB [~matt@bob.is.teh.admin.at.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] b2s: apt-build is one option [01:01] what kernel is breezy using ? === yojimbo-san [~yojimbo-s@203-97-50-115.dsl.clear.net.nz] has left #ubuntu [] [01:01] b2s: the people at SuSE.. I was a witness.. my friend called SuSE, and he was trying to know why there was a bug, and they said it was his fault.(it was a big to where he was having trouble mounting smb on his specific setup), they fixed it in the next release :) [01:01] Besides I can still alien -i on all RPM's. [01:01] Reblended: my compaq presario r3400 works farily well [01:01] GUISlave: RPM is perfectly fine. probably you are just less familiar with it [01:01] Reblended: my hp nx9020 is working perfectly [01:01] jirwin: I'm stuck here... to many changes to my setup to use Marillat, and cerkinfo can't get one of it's dependencies :( [01:01] b2s: enterprise level == b.s. [01:01] thx Zugot djm62 [01:01] s/too/to === robertj [~robertj@66-188-77-153.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] b2s: its up to the admin to decide what is stable [01:02] tsume_: that isn't true all the time as well... [01:02] rh, suse, etc.. just advertisement [01:02] darkaudit, i am getting mad because I have gotten transcode to work before. [01:02] I've used RPM's in the past.. [01:02] Reblended: I have a dell inspiron 600m, it's nice [01:02] sometimes the admin has no control over what os they are using... [01:02] Zugot: what you call enterprise level.. means advertisement [01:02] SeamusLP, no issues? [01:02] i work for the us gov't.... [01:02] Zugot: well sure. [01:02] Zugot: hah [01:02] anyone know what kernel breezy is using right now ? [01:02] Reblended:checkin out your manual, gimme a second [01:02] Zugot: okay there. I know how bad it is with the government [01:02] we can't bring in software, we can't get supported [01:02] Reblended: Well if you use an extra battery it doesn't like swapping it out for the cd-rom drive [01:02] tyvm Seibol ! hangin [01:02] Zugot- are the feds purchasing linux? [01:02] GUISlave: hell yeah [01:03] Zugot: those people at the SS office wont upgrade those dummmy terminals :) [01:03] SeamusLP, but programs run fine, etc? I'm interested in using wine (very rarely) [01:03] Good for them. I'd rather see that then MS [01:03] redhat is saying that 10% of their sales are to the government now... [01:03] ohno, not RH [01:03] wow [01:03] tsume_: dude, the SS is bad...they hurt people [01:03] Reblended: Everything runs great, I even got it to ACPI-suspend [01:03] RH to the feds? [01:03] lol [01:03] Zugot: those poor fellows.. === taggart [~taggart@c-24-18-165-146.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] SeamusLP, a dream come true! [01:03] and 90% goes to support [01:03] gotta go make spaghetti. :) [01:03] interesting, EU govs seem to prefer SuSe === run|sony_ [~runyaga@cpe-67-10-90-91.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] djm62: suse is going to die to novell linux :) [01:04] Reblended: Oh, that's right, when I was using warty I had to disable the parallel port in the BIOS. I dunno if it's true for hoary, though. [01:04] yeah and china prefers commiLinux [01:04] i couldn't get ubuntu on the project i wanted if i tried. too much to loose... and with the gov't everything needs accountabitlity [01:04] does evolution have a gui for setting up procmail filters? [01:04] djm62: when novell took control, thier plan was novell linux ;) [01:04] dont think so === mmuzzy [~mmuzzy@ip24-250-44-152.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] Reblended it was causing an IRQ conflict with the wireless [01:04] as long as Netware dies with it [01:04] robertj: no === taggart [~taggart@c-24-18-165-146.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Client] [01:04] well, novell are doing something right then [01:04] Seibol: maybe [01:04] everywhere runs novell [01:04] novell needs to hurry [01:04] novell screwed up by selling rights to *nix [01:04] djm62: they also have control of "mono on BSD" project [01:04] Can anyone recommend a firewall/gui control with more flexibility than firestarter? [01:04] SeamusLP, ugg, how'd you discover this? [01:04] novell desktop linux sucks [01:04] Zugot: I tried it some.. wasn't very impressed [01:05] IIIEars, does it have to have a gui? i like shorewall [01:05] Reblended: the ubuntu laptop database pointed it out to me. Very useful that wiki is. [01:05] any way to find out what the current driver revision is of a loaded driver? [01:05] Zugot: do you know of any client that does? [01:05] Seems my device manager is less than helpful [01:05] Zugot: ubuntu actually is best IMO. it doesn't have the crud of other distros [01:05] well, if they weren't doing mono on BSD, who would [01:05] shorewall? - hm.. - how does it work? [01:05] robertj: vi [01:05] Zugot: I'll figure it out, but i'd prefer every time my wife adds a list... [01:05] ;) [01:05] now all the linux admins who work for me are free to use whatever desktop they want, and i've converted them all to ubuntu [01:05] how do you configure it? [01:05] Zugot: I was in a OS search, and stopped using everything but BSD for 3 years [01:05] SeamusLP, I don't remember the last time I've used my || port... never, I believe. [01:05] zugot: can i work for you? [01:05] SeamusLP, what vid card do you run? [01:05] Reblended: do you have a wireless PCMCIA card in your vaio? [01:05] slappy16: you live near dc? [01:06] Zugot: yes, our admins are all in the process of switching to ubuntu as well [01:06] BSD people have had maintainance issues [01:06] Zugot: I tried all linuxes again to see if they grew up. ubuntu risen out of the ashses [01:06] http://www.lart.com/auk/aukfaq.html [01:06] shorewall has a collection of files that are pieces of the entire firewall component [01:06] Seibol, I plan to use one, but I"m eth0 === wrlima is now known as wrochal [01:06] when i worked for advertising.com, i installed lots of bsd servers for serving adds... [01:06] Zugot: I know what makes a distro good.. especially after doing the research [01:06] zugot: no, i live in the left-coast [01:06] saw it in synaptic I'll google itfor more info - Thanks for the tip [01:06] do you have any PCMCIA cards in your vaio? [01:06] Seibol, nope [01:06] Reblended: Radeon 9000 on my laptop. It runs alright, no problems out of the box. [01:06] Zugot: binary packages which are updated often are a plus :) [01:06] Zugot: nobody wants to build software forever :) [01:07] Reblended: Haven't tried gaming on it [01:07] i need to get back to coding... [01:07] ahem: emerge [01:07] is there a way to add entries to the "places" menu? [01:07] oh then this makes it east, sell that bad boy on ebay and get another laptop [01:07] tsume_: i still have a place in my heart for gentoo [01:07] east = easy [01:07] I know what makes a distro good: doing what I want, how I want it [01:07] what are you coding in, zugot? [01:07] Zugot: which seens to happen when I use BSD.. I install over 4k in packages [01:07] SeamusLP, great! yah, I don't have time for games, but I do wish my sony vaio would digital scale, the intel card just doesnt' cut it [01:07] c++ [01:07] the universal gold standard [01:07] ahh [01:07] Zugot: I've never liked gentoo [01:07] Seibol, No, no pcmcia cards. [01:07] slappy16: i'm porting update-notifier to kde... [01:07] Zugot: optmising everying != good [01:07] Seibol, but I do have to slots [01:07] *two [01:08] no kidding? are you a contributor or on the devel team? [01:08] Zugot: bigger footprint in some bins which degrade speed [01:08] and i'm also working on making the kmail message view look more like gmail converstations [01:08] can grub boot usb === tsume_ has been using evolution :) [01:08] sounds like you love kde [01:08] yes i do [01:08] SeamusLP, you use external kb and mouse, yes? [01:08] kde has a great foundation... [01:09] mmmm, diversity === run|sony_ [~runyaga@cpe-67-10-90-91.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [01:09] Ok let me rephrase my question.. what is the version of the Nvidia driver in 5.04 .. anyone know? [01:09] do I have to compile libapache2-mod-php4 to get mysql support? [01:09] Reblended: Keyboard on the laptop is fine, but I do plug in a USB every once in awhile [01:09] very good, very good [01:09] desrt [01:09] alright all...take care [01:09] SeamusLP, yah, I rarely use the built in kb... what resolution are you running at? === slappy16 [~jlopes@216.140.33.49] has left #ubuntu [] [01:10] eggy? [01:10] Seibol, let's see... second [01:10] sorry - was an acident === fazer [~fazer@CPE0050f276c615-CM0012c90fe42a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === LinuxJones [~LinuxJone@blk-222-221-81.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] i was very close to buying a usb keyboard for my laptop today. i hate this thing [01:10] Seibol, disabled [01:11] Rav, mine says 1.0-7174 [01:11] Seibol, no runtime speed [01:11] Zugot; might i recommend apple's pro usb keyboard. it's extremely good [01:11] Seibol, don't tell me that is it!? [01:11] Dont: where and how do you check that? [01:11] Rav, I don't know if that was from an update though [01:11] Hmm [01:11] desrt: i'll swing to compusa or the apple store tomorrow to have a look [01:11] Well I am trying to find out what revision I am now stuff with [01:11] Reblended: Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to test the higher end screens for the 600m [01:11] Zugot; best part is - no windows keys :) [01:12] lilo'd! [01:12] Reblended: I'm stuck with 1024 x 768 [01:12] So where does it state what version is currently in [01:12] I use an Apple USB keyboard, it's okay but not great [01:12] could somebody please try to reach http://www.fh-bochum.de and tell me if its work [01:12] SeamusLP, test? you mean you can't just set it higher? [01:12] *it works [01:12] definately above average though, but I miss my Microsoft Natural [01:12] SeamusLP: i have a new work dell coming in next week... we ordered them with 1400x1050... 1024x768 sucks [01:12] desrt: i don't mind the windows key [01:12] Seibol, ty will do.. brb [01:12] roberj: are you friggen serious? [01:12] i have kde configured to actually use it [01:12] Rav, go to Synaptic and get nvidia-settings [01:12] Zugot; sort of a joke :) === St0n3-C0l [~stonecol@202.141.240.1] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] Seibol: why? [01:13] wiiiiiiii :) [01:13] wow [01:13] Zugot, make sure it does digital scaling. My vaio doesn't but it has a 1400x1050rez and the digital scaling sure is nice to have... 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scaling==non-integer number of cells per pixel?# [01:14] Thats the one :) [01:14] Yeah that is the one from the update [01:14] Guess I restart my xorg.conf since I did not comment out dri and glcore [01:14] how you u "unnotify" someone? [01:15] time to use a better server guys :) [01:15] The Microsoft Natural series feels good to my hands [01:15] or clear the entire notify list? [01:15] time to use....jabber! [01:15] my wifes ass feels good on my hands [01:15] lol === rrfs1 [~andi@217.201.67.32] has joined #ubuntu === no0tic [~no0tic@host35-94.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === djm62 seconds that [01:16] unfortunately, they don't seem to make the USB Natural anymore :( [01:16] I think I was having a conversation with someone about some stuff. Who was that now? === odyssey [~mat@odyssey.user] has joined #ubuntu === comfrey_ [~comfrey@208-151-246-153.dq1sn.easystreet.com] has joined #ubuntu === DeepMind [~stefan@c-f77272d5.022-100-70697410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Zosimus [~wee@user-10lf61d.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] Seamus: I think it was Joe === don-o [~donp@personaltelco.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] I really like the fact that you can get low power notifications on the Powermacs by plugging a USB keychain drive into the keyboard [01:17] must have been one of the hokey-cokeyers [01:17] robertj: u running linux on a Mac? [01:17] robertj: ? === abood [~abood@adsl100.col12.cyberia.jo] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] my laptop cdrom drive is busted. is there a ubuntu startup-disk to do a net install of hoary? [01:17] s/disk/floppy disk/ [01:17] Seibol: Joe. [01:17] don-o: buy a USB cdrom drive? :) [01:18] hahaha [01:18] lol === HELP is now known as wrl [01:18] is powernowd useful, or even recommended, on a desktop machine? === limer [~limer@69-174-31-248.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] I haven't heard that since high school :P === Zosimus [~wee@user-10lf61d.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:18] is it possible to upgrade from sarge to hoary? [01:18] I slapped Ubuntu on my Mac G3 yesterday [01:18] but, its a damn G3 if you know what I mean [01:18] minimal sarge with no X [01:19] I found some odd behavior when using a virtual console. if I use "$" and then CAPS lock, the letter "e" is not capped [01:19] I wouldn't think so djm62, not without losing something [01:19] anyone else want to test this? [01:19] Seibol: losing what? [01:19] like your dignity === linux|fly [linuxg0d@hacker.efnet.la] has joined #ubuntu [01:19] pfft [01:20] lol [01:20] <--funny guy === Mayhem [~Mayhem@dsl-202-173-156-152.vic.westnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:20] I don't know I'm still considerd a nOOb [01:20] mmm beer [01:20] Seibol, djm62: sorry for zoning out === beastmaster [~bm@beastmaster.user] has joined #ubuntu [01:20] ? [01:20] I dual boot Ubuntu and OS X at work [01:20] Seibol: in debian, you're considered a n00b until you've written a substantial part of it === tsume_ wonders off to programming [01:21] djm62: heh [01:21] I should start, them guys take forever [01:21] I spend less time in Ubuntu because I can't figure out how to do dual head with the nv driver [01:21] djm62: yep [01:21] Seibol You could have an Apple II, mac zealots would bid it up to $500 on ebay. [01:21] one of the distasteful things about them [01:21] Apple 2? [01:21] oh yeah === netpuppy [~mark@gw.bootless.dk] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] Saemus: it's absolutely retarded, Silver-towe G4's go for $800! [01:21] Anybody want an old Atari? [01:21] G3 300 (non beige) [01:21] poop [01:21] I had an old atari [01:21] robertj, How did you manage to dual boot OSX and ubuntu? [01:21] cartridges and hooked it up to the TV [01:22] This one's a Mega 4 STE [01:22] use uhh [01:22] robertj: Yeah you can't get a deal on a mac on ebay [01:22] whats that boot loader [01:22] yaboot [01:22] Seibol, Just imagine. 4 megs of ram [01:22] robertj: what's this about the low-power-notification? [01:22] robertj: People will bid used g5s to within $200 of the retail price === tsume_ likes every person in the picture on ubuntu.org except the african american who looks like hes in a gang which sells crack. [01:23] I have G3 300Mhz 320MB ram [01:23] djm: some USB keychains "draw too much power" from the front port of the G4s. [01:23] ah right... [01:23] If I recall correctly, it still works fine but it's annoying to my users [01:23] hahaha. chmod u+w /* instead of chmod u+w ./* === lucky [~lucky@CPE000625f49f20-CM014320105752.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #Ubuntu [01:23] Seibol: those machines were good [01:24] tsume_: As an african american I take offence to that. [01:24] that is the same with everything Seamus [01:24] Seibol: The G5s are just flakey [01:24] G3 = POS compared to everything else I won === lucky [~lucky@CPE000625f49f20-CM014320105752.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #Ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:24] own not won [01:24] as a white giuy trying to black I take offence at that too [01:24] I'm new to the Mac-world (well, 2 years now) but my co-worker has been in it professionally since System 7. [01:24] are we still on the who's on the splash screen thing? === nomasteryoda [~tux@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] as a white guy trying to be white I could give a shit [01:25] I have Ubuntu configured and running with all of my favorite apps and widgets finely tuned (grin). How do i back up *everything* to a hard drive with dd? [01:25] the ubuntu people look like they should be on some sitcom [01:25] SeamusLP: you haven't been to Memphis, TN.. have you? :) [01:25] He says none of the G4s have had anywhere near the problems the G5s have [01:25] MAC is slow to PC === _mage_afk is now known as _mage_work [01:25] G5 doesn't have a OS yet [01:25] all aspirational and wealthy :-/ [01:25] waiting on Tiger [01:25] tsume_: Didn't I just say that I'm an african american? [01:25] speaking of slow, I've got a dual 2.5 on the way with 2 gigs of ram and I am hoping to get a free bump if they announce new macs ;) [01:25] most of the black culture unfortunately has been infected by violence [01:26] tsume_ yeah you dick beater === andrewski [~andrewski@pool-151-197-228-28.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] ignore tsume_ [01:26] though, the only decent acting african americans are about 30-40 [01:26] A friend of mine who's into video and tv just bought the most expensive mac set up I've ever seen. Cost a fortune [01:26] years old [01:26] SeamusLP: best leave it to the experts, eh ;) [01:26] damn skippy [01:26] heya guys, I've been to some pretty rough spots, they just have flaws that are easier to see [01:26] oh wait.. all my friends who are black been through army training.. [01:27] (sigh) it isn't easy being a new Ubuntu user. - Thanks guys. :) [01:27] what's your problem tsume_ bro [01:27] Seibol: kids [01:27] Let's just cool it [01:27] you do not understand Ubuntu [01:27] u must be from the darkside of Ubuntu [01:27] djm62: ;) [01:28] Seibol: I don't make peace with people like in Memphis TN [01:28] From what I read, most African's don't understand Ubuntu [01:28] tsume_: http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a419/a419.gif [01:28] whatever man, I just like the fact that ubuntu kicks ass [01:28] all my friends who are black went to cambridge university...helps not to generalise [01:28] where was ubuntu originated? [01:29] NotANick, thats funny as fuck [01:29] SeamusLP: http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a332/a332.gif [01:29] Seibol: BIshop Desmon Tutu (or whatever the spelling) [01:29] I don't have any friends who are black [01:29] in fact, far too many of my friends went to that damn den of vice === fix [~fix@35.Red-83-33-169.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [01:29] hell, I don't have any friends [01:29] how bout them grapes [01:29] Seibol: story from memphis couple months ago.. also other black(because memphis is 88% black). Woman goes to her car from conference.. black guy jumps behind her, throws her in trunk... drives 2 miles, rapes her. drives back top convention center where her reserved parking spot is.. when to front desk "Shes in the trunk" walks out [01:29] Anyone have experience with wireless? I installed netapplet, I select the network I want to get onto, and ifconfig shows my eth0 with an inet6 addr .. it never seems to get the proper ip from the wireless router [01:30] how does ignore work? (new to irc) [01:30] Seibol: memphis is a really bad area [01:30] memphis like Gary, IN? [01:30] yeah...that happens in bad areas all over [01:30] nickrud: in xchat right click their name and use the ignore menu [01:30] thread, sorry. I'm wired [01:30] robertj: thanks [01:30] DonL: thanks for answering [01:30] djm62: it happens in memphis often 8) [01:30] np [01:30] north of england over here, or indeed the east end of glasgow [01:30] does anyone know of a way to get xine to play sound via esd? === jirwin [~amalby@c-67-170-158-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] djm62: I just seen a paper which made its way from memphis to knoxville somehow [01:31] hello [01:31] tsume: so? What guys rape and kill to. My dad's dad is a murderer but you don't see me raging on white guys [01:31] err White guys rape and kill too. [01:31] would anyone have any idea why I try to install Hoary it hangs at the same spot everytime...but the live cd works great? [01:31] jirwin: bad disk? === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] robertj: well.. it kind of says something in bill Cosby tells specifically... "his people"(his words) to "stop being lazy" [01:31] robertj, i have tried 2 different disks. [01:32] wee guy in my sister's class stabbed to death last week [01:32] tsume: it says some black people are lazy. [01:32] jirwin, sometimes that means a glitch on the cd === propagandhi [~propagand@CPE-144-131-132-107.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] tsume: lots of white guys are too [01:32] I wonder how many people will be using ubuntu when breezy comes out [01:32] robertj: its not all he said :) [01:32] I'm a black guy, living in central london. And my view of the world may be slighty diffrent to that idiot tsume_ , but please someone correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't every culture worldwide, black, white, green, yellow, suffer from crime, violent crime, corruption, and basically all things negative? [01:32] DonL, so re burn? [01:32] robertj: coming from him.. it means something [01:32] jirwin: boot options like framebuffer,network ,etc,check F1 for options [01:32] poverty is the thing [01:32] I would, jirwin [01:33] give people nothing else to do, and violence will ensue [01:33] damn... i'm a black guy living in the US... i just don't think folks get it.. [01:33] djm62: ack, and we please drop this? [01:33] jirwin, and go slow [01:33] memphis actually used to be a peaceful place 40 years ago [01:33] mainer, what? [01:33] how the hell did we get onto this subject [01:33] DonL, meaning? === suifur [~suifur@suifur.channel-support-Mandriva.linuxfordummies] has joined #ubuntu [01:33] nickrud: yeah... [01:33] burn at a slow speed [01:33] #ubuntu-offtopic [01:33] DonL, ok [01:33] hello, i have a problem with the file .ICEauthority , every time that i have to enter on ubuntu i have to delete that file. somebody know how to do? [01:33] What kind of luck have people had going from Warty to Hoary in just an upgrade? [01:33] AngelGabriel: yeah, black in America is just different than black in London though. Blacks in London act "white", which is honestly what we want from everybody. We really don't want them to act "white," just civil. [01:33] first of all I think everyone that is offended, needs to get over it, there are ppl out that out there, always have, and always will be [01:33] the itallians, portugueuse, few americans, and the.. greeks? [01:34] And you have black friends but "They don [01:34] And you have black friends but "They don't act black" [01:34] lol 'act white' === MikeA [~mike@82-41-207-134.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:34] yeah lol [01:34] suifur, none until I read everything I could in the forums === djm62 ignores it all [01:34] robertj: I don't think so :P [01:34] djm62 me 2 [01:34] i wonder what a person 'acting black' behaves like [01:34] second, tsume_ dude, settle down, there are plenty of other things you can be pissed off about, like circus midgets [01:34] think i'll just save the home partition and write over root lol [01:34] robertj: I ever see a black person act white.. I'll cry.. that would be sad. [01:34] why do I get this on starting bash? [01:34] -bash: id: command not found [01:34] -bash: [: : integer expression expected [01:34] hypno: that's the truth. "white" is normal, but there really isn't a postiive culture that is associated with blacks [01:34] robertj, Blacks in LONDON DO NOT ACT WHITE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT FOR FREE. And please, ERASE THAT FROM YOUR MIND - If you EVER said that in London, I really, REALLY doubt, you'd see another sunset. [01:34] abood, you looking for me? [01:34] djm62, I just want someone who knows how to get this sony laptop to boot! === djm62 ignores ignorance, but fails to trust trust [01:35] is anyone using the firefox google homepage [01:35] Angel: I've been to London, it's what we would pass off as acting white === suifur [~suifur@suifur.channel-support-Mandriva.linuxfordummies] has left #ubuntu ["All] [01:35] you mean like acting, say, korean? [01:35] Seibol, not yet! tell me if I should give up =] [01:35] or do koreans act white [01:35] AngelGabriel: they say you can't tell scottish from english accents either...it's a distance thing [01:35] propagandhi, haven't seen that yet [01:35] All I said was I disliked seeing what looks like a driggie kid with the picture on the frontpage [01:35] hello, i have a problem with the file .ICEauthority , every time that i have to enter on ubuntu i have to delete that file. somebody know how to do? [01:35] if anyone is using it, i just wanted the url [01:35] djm62, smartest thing I've read on this subject !!! [01:35] I'd rather see a decent black kid which looks like he knows how to act. [01:36] robertj, I LIVE in london - I interact with london folk every day, and OH MY GOSH, who told you that, even DEAF people can distiguish between a london accent and a scottish accent! [01:36] djm62: you can't? pfff [01:36] robertj, poor, stupid and scared people act the same no matter their colour [01:36] Seibol, yes... and the install boot disc stops at that acpi line.. but I have it Off! (I think) === superfrog [~tassilo@pD9E15710.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [01:36] I'm an .au ian [01:36] and I can tell [01:36] hell most of the time I can give you region [01:36] rrfs1: do mv /home/username/.kde /home/username/.kde-old [01:36] HrdwrBoB, I'm a .com ian [01:36] Interesting discussion for an Ubuntu related irc channel. lmao [01:36] US owns all the .com [01:36] Must...filter....bullshit...find..real....questions [01:36] ACTUALLY - How did we get into this RACE thingy ... I just want to talk about Ubuntu === tvelocity [~tony@ipa15.6.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu [01:36] I used to work at a boys club, and I can say half of the black kids looked like thjey were going somewhere. the ones who knew how to dress and do thier hair acted correctly [01:36] rrfs1: do it in a failsafe terminal or such === milli [~milli@216.133.163.4] has joined #ubuntu [01:37] propagandhi i use [01:37] Angel: I know there are differences but I am saying that London blacks would be considered "acting white." [01:37] hi is anybody interested to help me to awake my sleeping ati 9500 pro ? [01:37] gnome [01:37] HrdwrBoB: I'm scottish....I _notice_ when people get it wrong...and it does happen...think .au vs .nz [01:37] the kids which didn't look like they were going somewhere looked like the black kid on the frontpage [01:37] HrdwrBoB: feesh and cheeps ;) [01:37] Seibol, not too many options in the bios... [01:37] What is ubuntu-desktop? [01:37] I accidently uninstalled it along with totem? [01:37] djm62, I'm guilty of that [01:37] propagandhi i use gnome [01:37] superfrog: your 9500 pro is sleeping? [01:37] djm62: heh au and NZ are not even close [01:37] SeamusLP: How do I get my black network card to work as good as my white network card? [01:37] robertj, they are not acting white, they are acting however they want. Or do you think that all black people instinctively act like gangsters? [01:37] rrfs1: okay, well then u need to move the gnome settings dir, which i dont know the name of at the moment. someone else may know the name [01:37] yes the 3d stuf doesnt work [01:38] robertj, Okay, I respect your opinion, and naturally, you'd have a diffrent insight to the whole thing, but all i want to know really, is why? [01:38] djm62: though my parents (and myself) get mistaken for beign english when overseas [01:38] "acting white" is it's own thing, it's not what white people do [01:38] HrdwrBoB: they are from over here....I'm an accent geek so I care :) [01:38] robertj: heh. [01:38] AngelGabriel: because here there are no positive cultures that blacks can associate with really [01:38] robertj: some do ;) [01:38] SeamusLP: help? [01:38] robertj, sounds complicated [01:38] joshua__ don't worry too much, it's a 'meta-package' meaning it pulls in what ubuntu thinks you need for a desktop [01:38] actually a good portion does [01:38] pleasse [01:38] NotANick: ndiswrapper [01:38] nickrud: Sounds like something that'd eventually piss me off. ;) Thanks [01:38] really? [01:38] robertj, where is here for you? [01:39] It's a good starting point :) [01:39] does system shock 2 work under wine? [01:39] here is a university town about 2 hours from Atlanta [01:39] superfrog: What is wrong with your card? [01:39] kakalto: yes [01:39] (UGA at Athens for those of you in the South) [01:39] sweet [01:39] Hey, what is your guys favorite program? [01:39] J/W [01:39] thechitowncubs: ls [01:39] ok.. lemme see if it has anything listed Seibol brb [01:39] to install wine properly, what do I have to do? [01:39] thechitowncubs: emacs! [01:39] kakalto: apt-get install wine === jk_ [~jochem@jkossen.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] I installed winetools, but it says wine wasn't installed properlu [01:39] the configuration files and stuff aren't there [01:40] : [01:40] robertj, explain that last thing, about the positive cultures? [01:40] Yeah. I'm having no luck with Wine [01:40] just get the 'wine' package [01:40] Really? That's your guys favorite program? [01:40] and run wine ss2 [01:40] Guess I'll stick to beer === zooted [[1p6hjzomy@panix5.panix.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:40] DonL :D [01:40] propagandhi how u find the kde settings maybe in that way i can find the gnome settengis? [01:40] thechitowncubs: maybe gaim....gaim works right [01:40] gaim is good, it needs to be more customizable [01:40] robertj: I still think most African Americans(who usually aren't in armed forces, haven't gone to college, or thought about helping humanity) are bad like the rest of of the white trash, just not low as them. The white trash I see are usually lazy.. most expensive looking cars I see.. black people driving. It shows to me they work ;) === dragon_ [~dragon@S01060080c6efbfb3.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:41] HrdwrBoB, I do that, but it can't find ss2 [01:41] hm.. [01:41] hello? [01:41] thechitowncubs, man is cool. [01:41] I've white trash living nex to me unfortunately :( [01:41] kakalto: well by 'ss2' I mean the system shock executable [01:41] tsume_: wow... you are a sad person === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu [01:41] has anyone tried "Gyach" in place of GAIM - what is it like? [01:41] a.... i need a little help.. [01:41] why do I get this on starting bash? [01:41] -bash: id: command not found [01:41] -bash: [: : integer expression expected [01:41] and you have to be in the system shock 2 directory [01:41] HrdwrBoB, ahh [01:41] Angel: thinking on how to say this exactly... [01:41] HrdwrBoB, I thought that's how I'm meant to fix it [01:41] her daddy bought her a trailer and everything when she was knocked up and the boy friend ran away [01:41] i'm trying to install VMware tool and it's asking me where GCC is [01:41] well tsume_ since you can't drop it man [01:41] rrfs1: view the hidden folders in ur home directory [01:41] Zugot: no, just realise how life really is === Caveman [~biocorp@caveman.user] has joined #ubuntu === dewey [~dewey@c-67-160-122-96.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:42] ignore [01:42] robertj, i think you're well meaning but could benefit from some experience and travel :) [01:42] hmm [01:42] dragon_: sudo apt-get install build-essential [01:42] is all you can do with judgemental people [01:42] Zugot: what is sad are the lower parts of South Africa [01:42] let me test out ignore in konversation [01:42] oh is that where gcc is? [01:42] hi there, i've just installed splashy, and now I am trying to fix all errors during boot so that it doesn't kick out into verbose mode during boot. Last one to do is: Setting up general console font... t_kernel_font: Invalid argument. <-- Does anyone know how to solve this? [01:42] they won't change, they won't go away [01:42] dragon_: build essential will get gcc and all the needed apps to build stuff [01:42] Any reports of X locking up on ati based laptops? I can't seem to run the live CD on my P4 laptop without X locking after about 5 minutes with 99% cpu going to X. [01:42] ic... [01:43] djm62: judgmental is ok, just the tarring is wrong. [01:43] Angel: the idea is that anyone who has a good education, refrains from basic thuggary, works hard, etc "acts white." [01:43] How can I restore my /etc/profile to the default? what do I apt-get? [01:43] ok i'm going to try it now [01:43] Angel: and it's shared by both blacks and whites [01:43] is there a tool to run ldd on all binaries and libs on a system and report missing shared libs? [01:43] thanks for help :) === fin_uk [~fin_uk@81-86-122-158.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:43] robertj: define "acts white" please :) [01:43] nickrud: judgemental is a word which has strayed far in its connotations [01:43] tsume: I just did [01:43] ubuntu is a plug and play o/s, yes? === tsume_ looks === Rinvash [~bleh@nat-147-226-226-217.bsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [01:43] djm62: true, so lets bring it back :) [01:43] oh [01:44] Reblended: for the most part, yes [01:44] anyone know how to help me? [01:44] ok thx djm62 [01:44] robertj, i dont think those labels are entirely useful for both sides.. [01:44] robertj: sorry, I missed the context :) [01:44] hypno: that's what the yare though [01:44] nickrud: while we're at it, I have a fondness for "catamite" [01:44] robertj, then you should not promote them :) [01:44] djm62: truly, some of my best friends. [01:44] hm... ok i think the install was successful [01:44] but... i don't still know where [01:44] gcc is -_-; [01:44] the word, I mean [01:44] robertj: basically yes, plus add.. "doesn't promote violence" ex. the white rapper guy who thinks hes black [01:44] << Ignores Tsume for non-linux chat and bigotry [01:45] hypno: I really don't mind this one, I think it's antagonistic enough to be useful [01:45] a person who doesn't torch cars and hold up conviennce stores isn't acting white, he's acting rationally [01:45] it should be used more often [01:45] whoa is there any ONtopic chat going on in here [01:45] as an insult, or description? === darmou [~darmou@CPE-61-9-146-174.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] dragon_: it's in the path === ubuntu [~ubuntu@ppp-70-244-21-83.dsl.hrlntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] nickrud: description... [01:45] IIIEars: it has to do with ubuntu linux and the gangster kid on the homepage of ubuntu.org [01:45] you should be able to accept the default [01:45] what do you mean it's in the path? ? [01:45] mdke, topic? what's that? :P [01:45] I've never used linux before.. -__-;;;; [01:45] mdke: have u seen this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?s=abb651943bcd89cb3104b56c0eec7ad9&searchid=556882 === juan [~juan@216.155.90.66] has joined #ubuntu [01:46] nickrud: it's just flavourful... :-/ [01:46] gangster?? he doesn't look like a gangster to me. Looks like he's from a well to do family [01:46] djm62: I'm supposed to be ignoring this suff :J) [01:46] but black people are antagonized if they don't listen to rap music, study hard to go off to college, etc. [01:46] kakalto, obviously now ubuntu has become popular this channel does not stay on topic [01:46] Welcome dragon! Congrats - i am new also Ubuntu is very nice isn't it? [01:46] oh ya [01:46] dragon_: in 2 weeks you'll feel quite at home if you spend some time in this channel [01:46] hi guyz how can I get the warty human theme on hoary? I like so much it! =D ? :P [01:46] hahaha I hope so :) [01:46] propagandhi, no, thanks for showing: which thread should I be looking at? [01:47] hypno: not compared to people in my area. If he was wearing a plain blue shirt, I might have considered what you describe him as [01:47] nickrud: I'm only /ignoring/ tsume...the channel is temporarily lost :-/ === Jzalae [~sk@66-252-38-162.da.midmaine.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:47] theres one that deals with setting vga=792 === g0mej [~g0mej@kg0pl.force9.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === beastmaster [~bm@beastmaster.user] has left #ubuntu [] [01:47] install wasn't as hard/confusing as I thought.. [01:47] u could try that [01:47] in ur menu.lst file (if ur using grub)\ [01:47] Ubuntu - detected all of my hardware well enough to start learning about Linux. :) [01:47] djm62: although it is tangentially related to the broader concept of ubuntu, so lets watch. [01:47] haha same here :) I can even listen to mp3s [01:47] propagandhi, its on 792 at the moment i think [01:48] Which I believe is why a lot of the upper-middle class blacks are celebrating Kwanza and the like, to try to create a black-culture that can co-exist with the ideals put forth by "being white" [01:48] nickrud: true...I hope things stay relatively sane in the UK === paul__ [~paul@pcp04665116pcs.wilog501.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] err "acting white" [01:48] which I will be the first to tell you aren't great ideals [01:48] neways... anyone know where GCC is located ? [01:48] robertj, can you take this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please? === jirwin [~amalby@c-67-170-158-42.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] I new to unbuntu linux as using apple mac om linux can any body help [01:48] hello [01:48] is the ubuntu site based on a cms or is it custom-made? [01:48] Plone [01:48] Seibol, you are a God-send!, TY TY TY TY [01:48] dragon_: yea, the ubuntu installer is quite simple ... one thing to bear in mind is keeping your monitor on during startup... xorg seems to read the resolution from the monitor and match it as closly as possible === djm62 goes to #ubuntu-offtopic [01:48] Thats what its based off of, a highly modified Plone site [01:48] djm62: sanity is always on a personal level, never (almost) on an institutional. [01:48] oh ic [01:49] djm62, thanks, try and get em to follow you [01:49] but if it is off then i always get 640x480 [01:49] dragon - synaptic is the best - it will make getting needed dependencies a snap. - I really like streamtuner/streamripper recording radio to mp3s is great. :) [01:49] plone is god === Reblended does a little dance... ubuntu is loading on my sony laptop! woooo hoooo, bye bye bye Gateyboy [01:49] Indeed [01:49] mine is 1024 758 which is great I think.. === djm62 lurks in #ubuntu-offtopic [01:49] How do I make wget go through a proxy? [01:49] nomasteryoda: does this mean ubuntu won't work nicely with a monitor-less PC - ie headless server? [01:49] Resonant: man wget [01:49] anyone here installed the gmail-notify package from sourceforge? [01:49] fin_uk: no, it works fine [01:49] I can't seem to get it to install [01:49] nice one - that's what I have planned... thx. [01:49] ROFLMAO @Reblended [01:50] HrdwrBoB: It doesn't tell me what environtment variable I have to set. [01:50] hi guyz how can I get the warty human theme on hoary? I like so much it! =D ? :P [01:50] nickrud: less sure about that...I think there is such a thing as "national character" even if it is impermanent [01:50] when I dpkg-i gmail-notify it gives me dependency errors [01:50] mdke: sorry, in that case, i dont know what else u can try === monkey89 [~monkey@ool-44c69ae6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:50] propagandhi, thanks tho [01:50] ii havent had that problem [01:50] Resonant: 'PROXY' :) [01:50] what else could cause my installer to stop at the exact same spot? [01:50] no worries [01:50] when installing hoary? [01:50] lol, Seems like I always overlook the obvious. lol [01:50] mainly python dependencies, but I already have higher versions that it even needs [01:50] anyone have an answer? [01:51] no luck yet, jirwin ? [01:51] FATAL: Error inserting ipw2200 (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/drivers/net/wireless/ipw2200.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [01:51] propagandhi, i'm gonna try 791 [01:51] djm62: I'm given to sweeping statements, they require less backup :)\ [01:51] can someone help me with this error? [01:51] why does noone listen when you have a problem in here? [01:51] haha [01:52] nickrud, *points at #ubuntu-offtopic* [01:52] danwolf: we do, but the people here at the moment don't always know the answer. [01:52] What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running [01:52] kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] [01:52] haha [01:52] ok.. [01:52] haven't tried...but it was hanging after i formatted so I wanted to ask about it before I went [01:52] i got this message.. [01:52] Wpould give advice unbuntu for power pc ? === scorpix [~scorpix@as36-b100.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] ok nickrud, thanks [01:52] hi guyz how can I get the warty human theme on hoary? I like so much it! =D ? :P [01:52] nickrud: you see what I said? You don't have a clue === AceMan [~me@81-178-152-81.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:53] propagandhi, i find that in /home/myusername/ is the /.gnome and /.kde . with mv i will rename .gnome to gnome-old, why? [01:53] danwolf: true, that's why I'm not trying to help. [01:53] jirwin, any time I had that happen, it was either a burning error or a download error. If you try reburning nice and slow (I use 4X for data) and have the same results, try re-downloading [01:53] nickrud: that was a question, sorry [01:53] nickrud: no offense [01:53] rrfs1: it will cause all the files to be rebuilt by gnome [01:54] who mentioned streamtuner ? thnx for that cool program [01:54] rrfs1: i had the same problem, only with KDE last night [01:54] danwolf, dpkg doesn't resolve dependencies when you install a random .deb that you downloaded from the Internet [01:54] LinuxJones: I understand that [01:54] propagandhi but which did it? [01:54] propagandhi, 791 didn't do it [01:54] LinuxJones: I don't know how to get it then === doko [~doko@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] propagandhi but now which did it? [01:55] LinuxJones: what can I do to get the dependencies met for the package? [01:55] rrfs1: i ran the mv command and it fixed it if thats what u mean [01:55] ok [01:55] hi guyz how can I get the warty human theme on hoary? I like so much it! =D ? :P === tsume_ knows a dan wolf, but hes in AK :) [01:55] does wont to talk with I have using linux i86 platform for some years now can any body help with ppc apple mac I just install it with no probles at all === AceMan [~me@81-178-152-81.dsl.pipex.com] has left #ubuntu [] [01:55] DonL, if I had a cd that worked before, would there be any other reason it hung? [01:55] mdke: i will see if theres anything else - no promises [01:55] juan, I did an update, and it was still there [01:55] heh [01:55] jirwin, it worked before??? [01:55] propagandhi, ;) i will search the forum too [01:55] tsume_: not me, I like in AR [01:55] hm where is "C Header"? [01:55] mdke: okay, easy [01:56] I got the gcc part [01:56] DonL, my friend has a working cd [01:56] DonL I want to have the old warty human theme on Hoary, do you have it? [01:56] danwolf, it depends on how many different packages you need, they will have to all be found and installed. For something as trivial as gmail-notifier that it's going to be a lot of work :D === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] danwolf: :/ you have a wolf logo for your personal emblem too I suppose? ;) [01:56] tsume_: Dan Wolf isn't my name anyway, its a nickname someone gave me cause I looked like a wolf with really long hair [01:56] What file is the list of all installed apps? [01:56] juan, yes I have it and it works [01:56] tsume_: nope [01:56] danwolf: oh, heh :) [01:56] DonL where did you get it? :D [01:56] ok, jirwin , then I don't know. Sorry [01:56] I love it =D [01:56] Can somebody help me? [01:56] danwolf: a hippy wolf?? [01:57] hm.. i need help too;; [01:57] can anyone think of any other causes of the installer hanging for hoary? === TongMaster [~TongMaste@150.203.247.9] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] LinuxJones: I tried searching on apt for the dependencies, but I couldnt find em [01:57] juan, the theme came from Warty. I updated to Hoary, and it's still there [01:57] ohh I see [01:57] thanks [01:57] jirwin: does the computer freeze, or just the installation process? [01:57] propagandhi: Hippy, no, liberal, yes, heh [01:57] jirwin: did vt4 say anything? === TongMaster is now known as Tong-LCA [01:57] howto get my canon ip2000 usb under unbuntu linux to work is mac compactible And Sir Billy Gates I Don't like him [01:57] danwolf: sorry, just mucking around === Rav [~Nylira@cc71313-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu === tsume_ thought there was a status terminal during install ;) [01:57] propagandhi: I know, me too [01:57] tsume, the only thing it tells me is that it fails setting the locale [01:58] cool [01:58] jirwin: and your locale is? [01:58] propagandhi: know anyone that has installed the gmail-notifier program from sourcefourge? [01:58] tsume_, utf-8 === BrettMeister [~chatzilla@adsl-69-154-24-212.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:58] hmmm [01:58] english [01:58] danwolf:no, but whats the problem with it [01:58] jirwin: try en_US first ? [01:58] propagandhi: dependency problems [01:58] tsume_, how do I change that? [01:58] expert install? [01:58] what dependancies?? [01:59] jirwin: I thought it was a selection from the insta... [01:59] Please help. I have tried to load ubuntu onto my laptop and I'm having trouble getting intot he GUI...something about Xorg [01:59] propagandhi: it says I need a lower version of python or greater, but I have it [01:59] heh [01:59] lemme get the output [01:59] tsume_, the language...yes..and I have been choosing english usa [01:59] I'm on the Xorg wiki,but I really can't understand most of that stuff. [01:59] jirwin: oh.. hmm [01:59] danwolf: i will try install it now [01:59] hannes can you help [02:00] jirwin: you'd need to ask a dev to debug the problem further [02:00] http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gmail-notify/gmail-notify-1.5.deb [02:00] theres a download link [02:00] danwolf: u downloaded the deb package right? [02:00] propagandhi: http://switch.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gmail-notify/gmail-notify-1.5.deb [02:00] propagandhi: course [02:00] cool [02:00] tsume_, would there be any reason it halts at the exact same spot everytime? [02:00] BrettMeister: you could try running, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [02:01] jirwin: well its a bug in the exact same place ;) [02:01] goldfish: Thanks...brb [02:01] jirwin: did you check the md5 of your ISO? [02:01] Seibol, ok.. guess where I am... [02:01] Well you don't make feel happy here why don't you won't to help [02:01] i will be sure to do that... [02:01] i am redownloading as we speak [02:01] jirwin, one last thing: Check the disk for dirt? [02:01] 2 minutes left [02:01] jirwin: if a bit is off.. I've had it mess up :) [02:01] danwolf: just gotta wait for synaptic to stop updates, wont be long === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] understandable [02:01] Seibol, I'm at a screen that says, "could not load xserver" does this mean I need to type vga=771? [02:02] propagandhi, with mv /home/username/.gnome /home/username/.gnome-old, in thi way i will rename the dir .gnome (.gnome-old) and after that gnome will rebulit the files? because find in a forum the suggestion to remove the .ICEauthority but i every time i entered on the ubuntu it pop up the same warning. u think that with mv ... i have not do it anymore? [02:02] anyone? [02:02] rrfs1: try the command, if it doesn't work, u can always reverse it [02:02] rrfs1: as i said, it solved it for me [02:03] How can I restore my /etc/profile to the default? what do I apt-get? [02:03] rrfs1: i also deleted and redid the file, was only temporary [02:03] dose any won;t to help pse [02:04] I found some odd behavior when using a virtual console. if I use "$" and then CAPS lock, the letter "e" is not capped [02:04] or talk to me [02:04] propagandhi thnks a lot, i will do it [02:04] anyone else want to test this? === mjc [~mjc@c-66-176-195-87.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] Seibol, thx for the help... at least I know now that the xserver won't start... =p got that far [02:04] UUBNTU ROCKS! [02:04] :d === mdke blinks [02:04] tty2 that is [02:04] ogra and doko have merged? [02:04] some kind of super dev? [02:04] bye === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] what do I do now? I've booted to the point where I get a message: xserver cannot run [02:05] I get a prompt === tsume_ watches his daily dose of "switch to linux" ad [02:06] Reblended, have you tried logging in and doing a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" === Sophistication [~KLF@sophistication.user] has joined #ubuntu [02:06] ooh... I like to learn mdke [02:06] Reblended, it might not help [02:06] Reblended, that should attempt to reconfigure your graphical server [02:06] How can I restore my /etc/profile to the default? what do I apt-get? anyone? === ratius [~ratius@modemcable087.77-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [02:06] ok.. well, I'm like very noob, but I have installed some things so far on another machine, mdke [02:06] mdke, ty [02:07] anyone knows how can i get apache? [02:07] ratius: apt-get [02:07] brb mdke [02:07] ratius, you can install it using your favourite package manager [02:07] apt-get install apache 2 [02:07] apt-get install apache2 [02:07] or apache, if you want apache version 1 [02:07] ok thx === orospakr [~orospakr@209-195-116-108.c1.ac1.otton1.isp.cyberus.ca] has joined #ubuntu [02:07] DonL I've uninstalled the 0.2.24 package (hoary) and installed the 0.2.14 (which is supported by the dependences like gdm, ubuntu-desktop) Thanks ! ;) [02:07] whats better version 1 or 2? [02:07] ratius, 2 [02:08] hi, can someone mark this: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9751 as a duplicate of bug 8923 [02:08] DonL the ubuntu-artwork package =D [02:08] riffic, it will get done eventually :) [02:08] question, using the gnome livecd and wondering how to access my files on windows, can anyone shed any light on this? [02:08] riffic, put a comment on if you think it will help [02:08] donL brb i'm gonna try it =D [02:08] mdke: oh well I was sort of wondering if it'd get done sometime soon [02:08] that'd require me creating an acct, heh [02:08] =) [02:08] I guess I'll sign up [02:09] does anyone know why Ubuntu is distributing CDs for free? [02:09] I live in Canada and just ordered some cds... and I feel a little guilty for having done that [02:09] because they can? [02:09] dragon_: so that anyone can use it [02:09] its great marketing [02:10] so that it spreads like a virus [02:10] i'm in canada and i've gotten my warty cds [02:10] it must cost them alot to do so [02:10] to promote thier distro~! [02:10] dragon_: even in countries where broadband isn't common [02:10] got a set of hoary coming in the mail in the distant future [02:10] <_chavo> dragon_, how dare you ? :) [02:10] dragon_: don't feel guilty, they're cheap to make because of child work [02:10] dragon_, me too. I felt that way. It' the way Mark Shuttleworth feels though [02:10] hm.. ya i can see it's a marketing strategy [02:10] i've given away a few copies and everyone loves it [02:10] hm... [02:10] they use it and pass it on [02:10] everyone lives free stuff [02:10] ya... [02:10] loves* [02:10] but... where do they make all the money -_-? [02:10] imagine downloading ubuntu on 11.5kbps modem [02:10] ya...;; [02:11] dragon_, you can sign up for support [02:11] people who start using it, like it, and then care to donate. [02:11] aha... [02:11] ...or not [02:11] good point! I need to do that [02:11] hahah === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === PacoBCN [~PacoBCN@62-15-249-174.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu [02:11] dd [02:12] (trying to donate time...possibly doing more good than harm) === superfrog [~tassilo@pD9E15710.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] hi people === Weiss [~weiss@students.dow.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] dragon_: the drug dealers have been using that trick for ages [02:12] the first one is free... [02:12] hm... [02:12] netpuppy: you see black people? ;) [02:12] oh [02:12] netpuppy: but so are all the subsequent ones [02:12] so are we gonna have to pay for this later -_-??? [02:13] Apparently Ubuntu will always be free [02:13] hm.. [02:13] tsume_: yeah, there's a negro on my wallpaper [02:13] i hope so.. [02:13] dragon_, if you go to the home page, you can read about it [02:13] dragon, probably not. [02:13] netpuppy: heh. I'm sure its a fantasy black. One who raps about sex, guns, and street wars which he knows nothing about ;) [02:13] netpuppy: or its a hot black chick 8) (*hoping the latter) [02:13] Guys I have just had it. I have not been able to ever get an ubuntu install to work right. This is my fourth failure. [02:14] dragon_: they wait till you've got the first 10 releases, then they bill you with ms-like fees [02:14] pure evil, pitr couldn't have outdone it [02:14] BrettMeister: what's been going wrong? [02:14] --_--?? [02:14] mdke: okay registered on bugzilla and commented [02:14] that feels good [02:14] ms-like fees... [02:14] tsume_: yeah, it's a chick [02:14] BrettMeister: if it's a bug, please report it so it can be working next time [02:15] so, can anyone tell me how to access windows files from a Ubuntu LiveCD? [02:15] So sorry, BrettMeister . It's the most trouble-free distro I've used in five years [02:15] tsume_: it's one of the monthly wallpapers [02:15] riffic, good:) [02:15] djm62: I just can't get the xserver to work right. Can't even get to the GUI. === eflynn [~evan@vt-williston-cuda1k4-36.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] ubuntu: just mount it [02:15] BrettMeister: ah...can you see the error messages? [02:16] Yes [02:16] ubuntu: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /mnt/win32 [02:16] netpuppy: ohhh. [02:16] djm62: yes [02:16] ah thanks, new to linux. [02:16] ubuntu rocks [02:16] man [02:16] yeah it does! === tsume_ wouldn't mind the ganster kid on the ubuntu homepage being some black chick ;) [02:16] ubuntu: beware, though, you can't write to it! [02:16] all I had to do was change 24 bits to 16 [02:16] djm6 [02:16] at least you shouldn't [02:16] ah alright. just want to test run it :) [02:16] i say we need to bring more nicely brested white chicks [02:16] oh well, I'm in GMT+2, sleep tight [02:17] as long as she didn't have a fat ganger's girl look ;) [02:17] djm62: It shows X10 fatal IO error 104 === helio7 [~michael@wbar21.lax1-4.26.216.34.lax1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] I'm on a laptop. Could that be the issue? Drivers? === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-151-205-45-125.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === Gman_ [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] BrettMeister: it's possible...do you know what card it is? [02:19] djm62: Nope, sorry. [02:19] BrettMeister: you could use the "vesa" x drivers [02:19] that's pretty generic stuff [02:19] How do I try that? [02:20] how do I describe 32megs in kb's? [02:20] 32,000? [02:20] I'm trying to print an image via gimp/cupsd/hp inkjet 932c / hpijs driver and despite high photo resolution, I'm getting a dark pattern of tiny speckles across my printer output. Can anyone suggest where I should look to solve this? [02:20] Reblended: yes [02:20] thx helio7 === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] anyone...how would you configure X to use vesa drivers? === dragon [~dragon@S01060080c6efbfb3.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] BrettMeister: I haven't done it for a while === jg_ [~jg@c-24-60-31-143.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === mdke [~matt@mdke.user] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:22] djm62: u could use xorgconfig === MMond [~Bukkake@CPE-70-92-252-37.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === MyNameIsChris [~Christoph@CWPP-p-144-134-225-72.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:23] xorgconfig...I've NEVER done this [02:23] propagandhi: I'll try that. I just rebooted to see if that clears some stuff out. [02:23] BrettMeister: can you run xorgconfig and select vesa drivers at the correct resolution === andrewski [~andrewski@pool-151-197-228-28.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu ["Bis] === zenwhen [zenwhen@h-67-102-63-103.phlapafg.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu === flodine [~flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:25] djm62, thanks. I didn't know there was a program called xorgconfig [02:25] neways.. i g2g now.. my mom doesn't like me when I'm on the computer for the whole day.. === NeonLevel [~NeonLevel@201.137.229.19] has joined #ubuntu [02:25] thanks for help and see you all later : ) [02:25] It would be nice if kids wouldn't presume somebody making a statement would flame them [02:25] hi ! [02:25] now lets see.. where is mdz [02:25] to go get a respectable person on the image of the frontpage :) === Dekkard [~right@adsl-68-74-8-236.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:26] I've reconfigured xserver, how do I restart it (without rebooting as I am on live cd) [02:26] i'm a first time user with ubuntu and very impressed so far, except that i'm trying to setup wifi and couldn't do it so far... [02:27] NeonLevel: iwconfig? [02:27] Sorry I can't help, NeonLevel [02:27] NeonLevel need ndiswrapper probably to get the drivers working (I've done it once, I'm new too) [02:27] Does anyone print photos to an inkjet printer and get excellent, photo-quality output? [02:27] It is an impressive Distro though [02:27] helio7, need photog paper === fr3dd [~fredd@cpe-024-168-231-049.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] Reblended: usually drivers are out there [02:28] helio7, most papers will bleed [02:28] Reblended: /etc/init.d/gdm restart [02:28] ty djm62 and tsume_ [02:28] that's not my issue Reblended, I've printed successfully to this everyday-hp paper successfully before under the Other-OS... [02:28] djm62, where do I learn all these commands? =D === dcooper [~dcooper@pool-70-20-182-95.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:29] oh, out of my league then, helio7 === kingsley [~kingsley@dsl-47-137.nas.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:29] propagandhi, i have and an other problem, i connect to the internet from my nokia wich is connect the computer via bluetooth. every time i have to connect i do: rfcomm add of the dev ... is there anyway did automaticly ? [02:29] I'm trying to understand which component might be responsible for adding this odd black pattern of speckles to my printer's output, so I can intelligently search for the solution... I'm not sure if it might be called a dithering issue or what... [02:30] Reblended: it's all in the spec ;) === linuxn00b [~user@user-12l3893.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] djm62, yea? [02:30] Reblended: or you take the blue pill === linuxn00b is now known as MuWu [02:30] djm62, nope.. red [02:30] Hi. How do I get java sdk to work in Ubuntu? Setting various paths don seem to work === dhonn [~dhonn@rrcs-66-27-52-190.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] djm62, gdm restart fail === MikeArthur [~mike@82-41-207-134.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] damn! [02:30] rrfs1: u could write a quick script that does it [02:31] yeah... It knows my graphics chip tho! [02:31] everyones having problems with gdm huh? [02:31] the best way is to delete some of the lines and let X determine the correct way to set it up! [02:31] anyone? Java errors.. mesed up path.. :( [02:31] line in xorg.conf [02:31] dhonn, yep.. I was like, do do yes yes ok ok === beowu1f [~beowulf@201.133.178.155] has joined #ubuntu [02:31] has anyone had luck with with ndiswrapper deb or is better to compile the source for a broadcom chipset? [02:31] The deb works fine [02:31] broadcom, worked for me with ndiswrapper [02:31] the live cd and install cd has the default settign on some strange setup [02:32] mhmm [02:32] does anyone here use Limewire with Ubuntu? === Dethread [~Dethread@24-205-231-52.slo-cres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:32] fazer: yes [02:32] dhonn, so, the live will fail whereas the install won't? === lemsx1_ [~lemsx1@p78-56.acedsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:32] I use limewire Pro [02:32] compiled === kingsley wonders why magicfilter configuration files for laserjets use ghostscript, because he thinks laserjets understand postscript natively. [02:32] they both fail on mine === ricardo_ [~ricardo@ALamentin-101-1-10-58.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === superfrog [~superfrog@pD9E15710.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [02:32] djm62: so you converted that .rpm to a .deb? [02:32] dhonn, uhh.. so I have to get the drivers and ndiswrapp them? [02:33] i have to rip out the line where it says PCI:0:1? or something like that === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu [02:33] dhonn yah, I don't know the setting for that [02:33] it said PCI:0:2:0 or something [02:33] Reblended, that only works with wireless windows drivers [02:33] dhonn k... =] [02:33] but for your video thats another story [02:33] yeah for your video card get rid of that PCI:0:2:0 line [02:33] dhonn where/how do I search for that PCI identifier? [02:34] ohkay! === tm17h [~tom@c-24-218-179-18.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [02:34] what do I put instead? just blank? [02:34] i dont search for them xorg does a good job at detecting the right settings [02:34] ok.. brb [02:34] ty [02:35] I'm off for now. Thanks for the chat, folks [02:35] propagandhi, excuse me, i am a starter, how can i do it? === DonL [~don@d207-216-57-201.bchsia.telus.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:35] rrfs1: how do u normally excute the command [02:35] anyone? Java errors.. mesed up path.. :( === Feilding [~Feilding@hnllhi1-ar6-4-7-245-121.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === orospakr_ [~orospakr@209-195-116-108.c1.ac1.otton1.isp.cyberus.ca] has joined #ubuntu === thundrcleeze [~thundrcle@c68.115.22.89.jvl.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:36] Hi! is it possible to record music to my mini disc player from Ubuntu or kubuntu? === orospakr_ [~orospakr@209-195-116-108.c1.ac1.otton1.isp.cyberus.ca] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === dcooper [~dcooper@pool-70-20-182-95.phil.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [02:37] I tried twice.. both with the pci line deleted, once with frame buffer on, other off === mrvain [~mrvain@pool-71-100-93-234.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:38] gdm fail [02:38] Fielding: what kind of player do you have? [02:38] what does it say for Driver? [02:38] sony mini disc :) [02:38] propagandhi, rfcomm connect 0 00:11:9F:CA:2F:29 1 [02:38] in a terminal?? [02:38] got a usb plug? [02:38] y [02:38] yea it is USB :) [02:38] Reblended, what does it say for Driver? [02:38] Have there not been many updates recently? The last week or so I haven't gotten anything from the apt-get upgrade. [02:38] plug it in, see if it shows up on your desktop. [02:38] dhonn, says intel 82815 which is correct [02:39] ok, i have to install ubuntu first :) [02:39] anybody know what CPU_FREQ_STAT does? [02:39] ha, yeah. [02:39] for example mines says: Driver "nvidia" [02:39] I broke my other partition recently [02:39] dhonn I also tried specifying 32000k ram, and then the other time I left it blank... still no dif [02:39] if i wanted to run a program from my terminal what could i do that would free up my terminal again? [02:39] I was running warty for a while, but then accidently formated it in windows :) [02:39] Feilding: bummer. [02:40] thundrcleeze: are you on warty or hoary? [02:40] k-otik open another term window? [02:40] clicked on the drive,and hit yes insted of no LOL! [02:40] helio7, hoary [02:40] i am looking forward to trying the new hoary [02:40] feilding: well install ubuntu, and maybe we can help. [02:40] nah you know when you type for example xmms in terminal it pops up but you can't use the terminal anymore [02:40] hoary. [02:40] thundrcleeze: I've gotten quite a few updates over the last week [02:40] sure :) [02:40] what could you do that would free up the terminal but keep the program running? === jubei1024 [~jubei@ppp139-170.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:40] propagandhi, i am wating for u [02:41] I'm having trouble with mozilla products and printing in hoary. (It worked fine in warty) The printer is a HP 940C. Printing from gedit/ooffice works fine. When trying to print from firefox or thunderbird, the app crashes with a Segmentation fault. [02:41] try deleteding: HorizSync, VertRefresh, BusID lines, you shouldnt have to specify the ram [02:41] k-otick: disown [02:41] thats oldschool [02:41] was just checking first, was thinking perhaps it is a special part of KDE or GNOME that burned the minidisc... [02:41] so I ask first :) [02:41] dhonn ahh, hmm here goes === flodine [~flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] Feilding: try googling for your exact model and ubundu, or debian, or linix. [02:42] k [02:42] I can view everything on a tv connected to my laptop just fine before gnome starts, then the picture goes haywire. Any suggestions? [02:43] helio7, huh. What could be wrong? My sound problem that happened right after I dist-upgraded to hoary just went away suddenly without an update, and there haven't been almost any updates available since hoary was released. [02:43] k-otik: add an apersand to the command at the end [02:43] yea,i went thru google and the debian package list... nothing on debian, woll check out google again after I install if I need to troubleshoot, Thanks Nickrud :) [02:43] rrfs1: thats an example of the shell script u could write [02:44] Feilding: hopefully your thing will show up as 'storage', and then it'll work no problem [02:44] have a nice day everyone, and thanks again for the help [02:44] tyea === tcwd [~Edward@tcwd.user] has joined #ubuntu [02:44] bye Feilding [02:44] thundrcleeze: I don't know how your sound problem might have fixed itself, but as long as it's working I wouldn't worry; as far as your lack of updates have you checked your /etc/apt/sources.list against the one on http://ubuntuguide.org/ ? [02:44] ti am hopeing this too, all my other USB stuff worked with Warty, looking forward to trying hoary :) [02:44] dhonn same outcome, hmm server modules? (I tried leaving the refresh entry blank, but it said it needed a setting) [02:45] thundrcleeze: what sound chipset? === DoppelGanger [~LordAngel@pool-141-153-228-145.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] whats your x error output? [02:45] anyone played with dithering under gimp-printing? [02:45] send it to pastebin.com [02:45] helio7, I did what it said to do on the upgrade notes. Would they have changed? crimsun, sb audigy === tibor [~chatzilla@239.138-183-adsl-pool.axelero.hu] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] dhonn uhh, I can't copy paste it can I? I have a thumbdrive but I'm not sure how to mount it, etc [02:46] dhonn, I'm on another machine here [02:46] its should automount === Twiggy [~Twiggy@192.77.143.161] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] k and the file I'm copying...? [02:46] cp /var/log/xorg* [02:46] k ty [02:46] propagandhi but some times the channel change rfcomm connect 0 00:11:9F:CA:2F:29 (1) [02:47] hi, is there anybody to help me to make working my scanner in kubuntu? [02:47] its this the great twiggy [02:47] thundrcleeze: all you needed to have done was unmute the Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack === revelater [~andrew@ppp-69-233-137-165.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:47] flodine: bow fucker [02:47] lol [02:47] you the man === apj [~aphirak_j@158.108.180.108] has joined #ubuntu [02:47] ;oD === lemsx1_ is now known as lemsx1 [02:47] thundrcleeze: no, they wouldn't have changed, but you might want to verify that you didn't make a mistake and that your /etc/apt/sources.list actually looks like http://ubuntuguide.org/sample/sources.list_extrarepositories when I update I always get updates [02:47] hey guys, how do i start up the login gui? [02:47] anyone had any luck with outgoing SMTP Auth on Hoary? I get an error "no mechanism available", but i have libsasl2-modules installed with appropriate modules. [02:47] oops! its a capital X /var/log/Xorg* [02:48] twiggy how long on ubuntu now [02:48] flodine: 6 months-ish [02:48] I NEED HELP!! [02:48] flodine: I use it on my laptop [02:48] rrfs1: how many variations are there? [02:48] man i love it [02:48] crimsun, we worked through it together for half an hour, muting and unmuting everything, you concluded that I needed to compile new ALSA drivers. [02:48] berli: ask on u-u [02:48] revelater, "gdm" I think [02:48] thundrcleeze: no, not necessary. [02:48] tried that [02:48] something about root [02:48] revelater, "startx" ? [02:48] Maybe not, but that's what you said. [02:48] Reblended cp over the Xorg.conf too [02:48] thundrcleeze: right, I did say that. But it's not necessary. [02:48] loged me into gnome automatically, i want to get into fluxbox [02:49] i just paid 100 bucks for suse 9.3 and then gave it away [02:49] crimsun, oh well, as long as it works now. [02:49] flodine, i think suse is better... [02:49] helio7, I'll check it out, thanks. [02:49] not me === tcwd [~Edward@tcwd.user] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] revelator, if fluxbox is installed, you should be able to select it from the the login. [02:49] flodine: ewwwwww [02:49] suse nice === vaiux [~r00t@pool-70-106-22-192.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] flodine: why give it away? [02:50] to my brother [02:50] nickrud, when i startx i don't get a login [02:50] if i need i can get it [02:50] revelater: don't use startx, use gdm. [02:50] revelator, what do you get. [02:50] but right now this works [02:50] killall gdm guys, then gdm [02:50] sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [02:50] yea [02:50] propagandhi i don't know how many channels have avaible . i don't know how to wright that shell script [02:50] that too [02:50] yeah [02:51] crimsun, gives me some error about root, then it doesn't work with sudo [02:51] gdm thing :) === fernando [~fernando@212.122.107.74] has joined #ubuntu [02:51] dhonn I believe it mounted, but I've never accessed a usb drive from the prompt... only in the gui [02:51] yay [02:51] cd /media/ [02:51] in ubuntu i could not to make work skype, in kubuntu i can not to make work my scanner... i should go back to suse, there both work fine [02:51] nickrud: i automatically login into gnome [02:51] it should be usb0? [02:51] not sure i dont have a thumbdrive [02:51] dhonn, ahh, ty ok! [02:51] I translated the ubuntu pic to a picture I rubbbed out the gangster guy [02:51] tibor, skype works fine for me === ratius [~ratius@modemcable087.77-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu === bluechip [~bluechip@213-202-159-111.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:51] rrfs1: it would be hard without having a little knowledge of the system and shell scripting, but i can reccommend a good guide. [02:51] http://linuxcommand.org/writing_shell_scripts.php [02:51] no more gangster kid on the frontpage for me! :) [02:52] revelater: down at the bottom, there should be a thing called session. click it, and choose. === andrewski [~andrewski@pool-151-197-228-28.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:52] skype works fine in kubuntu only for me [02:52] because u need it to probe where the device is at before it runs the command [02:52] the gdm login screen === bluechip [~bluechip@213-202-159-111.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has left #ubuntu [] [02:52] nickrud, it doesn't go into gdm... [02:52] dhonn: join #flood and paste the output of dmesg |grep ^scsi [02:52] revelator: dpkg -l gdm, tell me the output [02:52] propagandhi yes [02:53] ne1 knows if there is a way for installing a .deb in user mode. Cause when i use dpkg -i it requires SU privileges [02:53] rrfs1:so, how would u normally discover that info [02:53] propagandhi but i have meet 2 cases channel 1 and 3 [02:54] in kubuntu i could not make anything with my scsi scanner [02:54] dhonn: you've plugged in the usb thumbdrive already? [02:54] scan .... [02:54] If one is using a printer that recognizes postscript 3 and pcl 6, should plan text files be converted to ps3 or pcl6? [02:54] nickrud, output looks good [02:54] dhonn, I can see the light blink on the usb drive, but it isn't listed in /media/ [02:54] crimsun, i dont have a thumb drive Reblended has one, but not sure how to access it [02:54] nickrud, i have it installed [02:54] Anyone have experience with wireless? I installed netapplet, I select the network I want to get onto, and ifconfig shows my eth0 with an inet6 addr .. it never seems to get the proper ip from the wireless router [02:54] at the beginning, says 'ii" [02:54] dhonn: sorry, I thought you were asking [02:54] nickrud i think its in /media/ [02:55] Reblended: sudo modprobe sd-mod === blahrus [~blahrus@12-223-50-121.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu === joshua__ is better then all of you! [02:55] ty crimsun sec [02:55] crimsun, doesnt it automount? [02:55] how do i logout? [02:55] dhonn, what? [02:55] usb thumbdrive [02:55] ? [02:55] revelater: no need to logout to do that [02:55] joshua__, than [02:55] dhonn: some don't. [02:55] plugin play [02:55] ah [02:55] anyone know if its possible if the FS is currupt and you try to do a memtest with it, could that make errors? [02:55] it's pnp if I'm in the gui [02:56] crimsun: i just want to know how to logout [02:56] revelater: System>Log out [02:56] blahrus: memtest is for RAM, though [02:56] crimsun, because the fact that i am logged in may be the reason it is skipping the login screen where i can choose a sesion [02:56] most definitely [02:56] crimsun: yea I know, but if there was an issue with the file system, and it copies the memtest stuff off of it . . . . === Scuddie [~Scuddie@c-24-10-103-168.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:57] blahrus: highly unlikely, it checks itself when it starts [02:57] like I just got a bunch of unexpected interrupt halting errors [02:57] great so it looks like I have bad ram [02:57] dcraven: hey, how you doing? [02:57] ugh! [02:58] dhonn, I did sudo modprobe sd-mod and I ls in /media/ and it's empty [02:58] Hey, where is the cheapest place I can get a complete computer so I can put ubuntu on it [02:58] thechitowncubs, ebay maybe :) [02:58] Reblended, crimsun knows more about usb media, do you have the internet on that computer? [02:58] Reblended: lsmod|grep ^usb_storage === Brunellus [~luigi@ip68-100-19-156.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:58] lsmod? ok [02:59] thechitowncubs: hang out at the dump, you'll find a 586 :) [02:59] Det: I want one new [02:59] Any of you guys know why absolutely every single device I have is always considered busy? [02:59] I want one that can run ubuntu without any notice of slowwnnes [02:59] he he [02:59] dhonn, yes... once I can get my usb working from the prompt on the machine I'm trying to get the install on... =] [02:59] slackware [02:59] Im looking at dells right now, but im thinking it can get cheaper [02:59] build one yourself [02:59] its going to be for my dad [03:00] Det: what do you think the cheapest I can get it [03:00] thechitowncubs: look for a something better than 1.5G. [03:00] ain't gonna get much cheaper than a dumpster === PeprCorn [~Pepr@modemcable159.105-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu [03:00] crimsun: man, memtesting on a gig sucks! [03:00] IS newegg the cheapest place? [03:01] Can someone tell me how to make all gtk gtk2 and qt uniform in themes?? [03:01] thechitowncubs: the best deal, and great rma === chavo [~chavo@104.sub-70-213-77.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:01] Cheapest, no. Most reputable, absolutely [03:01] crimsun, it returned: usb_storage 64064 0 [03:01] pepr: only gtk 2 can handle that [03:01] Ok, thanks for the tips... [03:01] I'm probably gonna build one [03:01] thechitowncubs: you might spend 10 bucsk more, but its worth it [03:01] nickrud, I'm running it on a 1.0G, hardly any slowness. [03:01] what about the switch app? [03:01] is there a complete warty-hoary changelog somewhere? [03:01] nickrud, though warty was faster. === propagandhi [~propagand@CPE-144-131-132-107.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Kopete] === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:02] What's a good way to send plain text files to a printer that understands postscript 3 and pcl 6? [03:02] how can i find my kernel versoin? [03:02] Brunellus: yes, see the hoary-changes list [03:02] jubei1024: uname -r [03:02] thundrcleeze: I am currently on a 466 celeron. works fine, if you tune it. [03:02] tah [03:02] crimsun: right off the main website? [03:02] Brunellus: lists.ubuntu.com [03:02] This AXP 2800+ system I put together for $600 two years ago. [03:02] cubbie wanted "no" slowness :) [03:02] Reblended: dmesg |grep ^sd [03:03] Back then, considered upper mid-level. [03:03] time to start a wishlist [03:03] =D [03:03] k [03:03] thechitowncubs, build your own computer, it'd be cheaper and MUCH better than a dell. [03:03] aight, i figured === JoshuaSydney [~joshua@dsl-206.50.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] what is your guys favorite budget processor? [03:03] does: mail email@blah.com -s blah < textfile work? [03:04] it should, dhonn [03:04] crimsun, returned a screen full of sda: [03:04] thechitowncubs: AthlonXP Barton 3200+ [03:04] thechitowncubs: In warty I was able to use switch2 and switch to unify both themes. Hoary seems to not respond to those apps, I installed both throu apt-get === mikeco [~mike@adsl-068-214-087-164.sip.jax.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:04] Sry PeprCorn, I'm not familiar with that app. [03:04] Reblended: are you using SATA? === xmms [~xmms@220.112.7.19] has joined #ubuntu === LinearX [~LinearX@64-18-110-193.adsl.catt.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:05] crimsun, I believe not? [03:05] it's a 4 year old laptop [03:05] Has anyone been able to unify both gtk and gtk2 apps with a single theme?? [03:05] Reblended: please join #flood and paste the output of that dmesg|grep ^sd [03:06] What about mobo's, what is the best linux compatible? [03:06] crimsun, ok.. I'm going to have to type it out... hang on [03:06] PeprCorn, bluecurve [03:07] Reblended: /exec -o dmesg|grep ^sd [03:07] PeprCorn: not really. [03:07] Reblended: (in #flood) [03:07] gtk2-themes-smooth and gtk-themes-smooth is the best I've found. [03:07] monkey89 : bluecurve?? === hypno [~dan@pjmvpc1ddr1.pjmv.aber.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:07] did you apt-get it?? [03:08] PeprCorn: is it possible? [03:08] yup. [03:08] PeprCorn, red hat's theme, has both a gtk1 and gtk2 engine. there's a howto in the warty doc forums [03:08] (i forgot this was ubuntu, hehe... was about to say emerge it) [03:08] thechitowncubs: Check this out. http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=13-130-475&DEPA=1 === thr1ce [~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] anyone run xfce on ubuntu ? [03:08] yes [03:08] i do === KarlosII [~KarlosII@68.151.39.153] has joined #Ubuntu [03:08] it rock [03:09] s [03:09] i can [03:09] does it run pretty well ? [03:09] scuddie, is that what you use? [03:09] Reblended: ok. Try: pmount /dev/sda1 something [03:09] something? Lol [03:09] thr1ce: runs fine on my P2/266 === housetier [~housetier@dsl-084-056-142-015.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] pmount... ? [03:09] just mount [03:09] thr1ce: no, pmount. [03:09] mount /dev/sda1 [03:09] is an mx440 sufficient? [03:09] I've never heard of pmount....no man page [03:09] thr1ce: i have a p2/366 laptop and it runs smooth, you might have to edit your xorg.conf though [03:09] crimsun, you actually want me to type something? [03:10] if I want to copy all the contents while preserving attributes and symbolic links to another partition, what command parameters would I use for cp ? [03:10] Reblended: yes [03:10] lol ok! [03:10] GeForce mx440 64mb gfx card? [03:10] thechitowncubs: That's the successor to what I have. And what I have is VERY nice. [03:10] Reblended: or just replace "something" with whatever string you want [03:10] fazer, for? I have an athlon 2100, gig of ram, radeon 9700 pro [03:10] Great, thanks scuddie [03:10] thechitowncubs: yea it will be fine, wont be able to game the newest and greatest [03:10] thechitowncubs: Absolutely not! [03:10] Do not get that card! [03:10] It won't be used for gaming at all [03:10] thr1ce: ooh, I thought you had low-end system, my bad. [03:10] I need a budget machine [03:10] thechitowncubs: then you are find [03:10] fine* [03:10] fazer, hehe [03:11] Well, even then it would be better to get a GeForce4 Ti 4200 [03:11] <3 ti4200 [03:11] lol [03:11] crimsun, I love it! ty [03:11] or a ti4800se [03:11] ok...anyone think of a reason for me to not switch from slack to ubuntu ? [03:11] that thing does so well [03:11] Reblended: np [03:11] crimsun: can you suggest a good and lightweight IDE for PHP (and Python)? === farruinn [~nathan@cpe-69-201-3-182.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:11] Or maybe an ATi 9600 SE [03:11] fazer: no, but google can [03:11] fazer, I can, bluefish [03:11] wow [03:11] I don't even think they sell ti's at newegg [03:11] fazer: quanta? lol [03:12] what's the name of the partitioner in the installer? [03:12] ti4200 is hard to find, yeah. [03:12] parted? [03:12] crimsun, if I wanted to rename something to something1 what do I type? [03:12] monkey89: ah yeah, thats what I have currently, I was thinking a little lighter than that ;) [03:12] ebay [03:12] That's why I said 9600 SE [03:12] wtf is pmount [03:12] blahrus: thanks :) [03:12] fazer, doesn't get much lighter... gedit? :) [03:12] monkey89: hehe [03:12] is that ubuntu specific ? [03:12] monkey89: gedit has syntax highlighthing? [03:12] fazer, yeah === mkrenz [~mkrenz@static-66-244-85-183.smithvilledsl.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:12] the 3200 is a little pricey for my budget [03:12] monkey89: ah, thanks [03:13] Thechitrowncubs: How much are you aiming to spend? [03:13] i just realized it, my wishlist is adding up [03:13] Where is the iptables rule file kept in ubuntu? [03:13] /etc/rc.d ? [03:13] farruinn: cfdisk [03:13] ~275-350 if possible [03:13] Dollars... === unnameablePLAYER [~MrWOOTY@d187.rtcol.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] thechitowncubs: you can alwasy check out www.pricewatch.com [03:13] You're not going to pull it off. [03:13] Scuddie: why do you say that? [03:13] It's best if you buy used [03:13] Because I've been doing this for five years. [03:13] Reblended: you pumount /dev/sda1, then pmount /dev/sda1 something1 [03:13] i have problem with x server (graphic card) ... anyone can help? [03:14] That's a hassle... [03:14] That figure is just too low, unless you are upgrading. [03:14] buy used from where, ebay? [03:14] NOT ebay [03:14] lol [03:14] You can check refurbished items [03:14] then where... [03:14] oh ya... [03:14] crimsun, thx [03:14] thr1ce: no, it's used in Debian, too. [03:15] crimsun, what is it ? [03:15] dhonn, where do I find the Xorg.conf file? I've cp'd the other two [03:15] believe me... right now my dad is running a 465mhz 128mb machine, and he uses it a lot [03:15] thr1ce: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/pmount === jordanau [~jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === beggar [~beggar@81.193.29.175] has joined #ubuntu [03:15] It doesn't really need to be an afterburner [03:15] /var/log/Xorg* [03:15] monkey89: thanks, I just wished that gedit supported gnome-vfs [03:15] crimsun, aaaaah...sorry : [03:15] guys, how to fix x server if it doesn't detect my video card.? [03:15] thechitowncubs: just put 512k in it it will work. [03:15] fazer, um... I'd have to imagine it does, since its a gnome application... [03:15] joshua__, what card ? [03:15] I might be able to make one for 400. Does that seem reasonable to you? [03:15] dhonn, tx [03:16] monkey89: strange, because I can't see my FTP in there... [03:16] is there an automated disk imaging script app for linux? [03:16] fazer, I was able to open up documents directly over ssh, so I think it works [03:16] ummm its actually pretty old card, and im not sure about the brand, any ways to find out? type command..? [03:16] I think I convinced him he could survive on linux quite easily since all he does is Outlook (evolution), Quicken (comes in a linux version), Word (Open Office) === delltony [~delltony@c-24-99-11-118.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:16] monkey89: strange, bluefish sees it but gedit doesn't =( [03:16] 400 still sounds pricey [03:16] fazer, not sure... [03:16] whoa, there's a linux quicken? [03:16] I didn't know that. [03:16] Even though it really isn't... [03:16] thechitowncubs, there's no linux quicken, but theres gnucash === sig_w32 [~sig@208.187.169.233] has joined #ubuntu [03:16] There IS a linux quicken [03:17] but you could get crossover office === sig_w32 [~sig@208.187.169.233] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:17] prove it. :) [03:17] Not compared to the 1200 Dell would charfge for it. [03:17] Ok, on Fedora its at /etc/sysconfig/iptables, on Gentoo its at /var/lib/iptables/rules.whatever WHere is it on Ubuntu? [03:17] link me to the linux quicken [03:17] charge, even. [03:17] Brunellus: guncash, double entry bookkeeping [03:17] I'm intrigued. [03:17] gnucash :) === RastaMahata [~alvaro@pc-200-74-15-203.nunoa2.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] mkrenz: /var/lib/iptables/ [03:17] im not sure about the card's brand... can i find out by typing up something.../? [03:17] oh fack... i forgot, it was only a mac version [03:17] hehe [03:17] ... [03:18] JoshuaSydney: what type of video card? [03:18] Brunellus: reports suck, but it keeps _good_ books [03:18] SHIAT, that craps out the whole plan [03:18] lspci [03:18] it's a PCI video card [03:18] not sure about the brand though.. [03:18] dhonn, pastebin.com/272597 [03:18] i think it's cirrus logic [03:18] JoshuaSydney: lspci -v => pastebin.com [03:18] Ahhhh [03:18] something like dat [03:18] what kernel is breezy using ? [03:18] ah, imagine a world without coffee [03:18] crimsun, Well, I don't have that directory, but I have iptables installed. And speaking of which, I also don't have /etc/init.d/iptables or anything like that. So I'm not sure whether I'm missing some package or what. [03:18] can someone tell me why flux dont look right in ubuntu [03:18] thr1ce: the same as Hoary, 2.6.10-34 [03:18] question, i know i have asked this before but wasn't too clear on it so here goes. i have a pc with a dialup modem i'm trying to setup with the latest hoary. i currently have array 5 on it but want to upgrade it to the 5.04 released. i also have a highspeed internet connection but that computer doesn't have a nic for it. In any event, what would be the easiest way to upgrade that computer? i know i can use (this computer, highspeed [03:18] one) and type apt-get install -d dist-upgrade but the thing is it will check to see if i have the latest on this system and i do. any suggestions on this? [03:18] can someone tell me why flux dont look right in ubuntu [03:18] flodine: exec gnome-settings-daemon & [03:18] crimsun, no 2.6.11 yet ? [03:18] Dethread: I'm living it right now. [03:19] delltony: download the hoary iso [03:19] thr1ce: our 2.6.10-34 has a bunch of patches from 2.6.11+ [03:19] deltony: you must look at apt-zip [03:19] Quicken needs a linux version [03:19] crimsun, just that 2.6.11 isn't stable enough yet ? === NotANick [~me@Lee-11-133.rh.ncsu.edu] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:19] delltony: and put it in the arrary 5 computer and should pop up with an option to upgrade [03:19] i got it [03:19] aww good deal [03:19] thats what i need [03:19] flodine: because ubuntu sucks he eh [03:19] thr1ce: it's just that 2.6.11 wasn't worth it. We're working off 2.6.12rc currently. [03:19] crimsun, you're a developer? [03:20] why you here then [03:20] Silicon Integrated Systems SG86C205 [03:20] thechitowncubs, I'm working on a machine. I should have a cheapie one in a few minutes. [03:20] he acts like one ;) [03:20] thr1ce: MOTU and kernel stuff, much more the former [03:20] flodine: to laugh at the ridiculous questions [03:20] dhonn, the conf file went unfound === FC-tooki [~gdanies@200.21.6.132] has joined #ubuntu [03:20] crimsun, ok; I'm just curious; I'm a slack user debating switching to ubuntu === delltony gets a cd and follows blahrus 's advice thanks [03:20] /etc/X11/xorg.conf [03:20] delltony: how its works :) [03:20] hope* [03:21] it should if not i can always start over [03:21] crimsun: how do you get the specific driver / anyways to start up this SIS device to work properly? [03:21] Scuddie: sweet, let me know === iceaxe18 [~iceaxe18@c-24-18-105-137.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] nothing and i do mean nothing is worse than a gentoo 5 day install [03:21] you know you love ubuntu [03:21] thr1ce: Xfce in Hoary is the work of our team. === ratius [~ratius@modemcable087.77-80-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] if i can get thru that the rest is easy :P [03:21] crimsun, I use it in slack mostly [03:21] JoshuaSydney: sec [03:21] thx === dragoon [~david@dsl-210-211-77-076.sa.veridas.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:22] crimsun, I also like fluxbox...gnome is nice, but bloated IMO [03:22] who wants to help me diagnose this wireless issue? The long post from "thetourist" just past halfway down on this thread is my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1129&page=2&pp=10 [03:22] ifup on my wireless card causes the dhcp to time out === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@openblocks.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:22] hi guys i'm having some problems with apache i just installed, when i do /etc/init.d/apache2 start it doesnt work, ne1 has an idea? [03:22] root@ubuntu:/etc/init.d # /etc/init.d/apache2 start [03:22] * Starting web server (Apache2)... [03:22] Syntax error on line 219 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: [03:22] *dule access_module is built-in and can't be loaded [fail] [03:22] and the XFCE work was not trivial, although I'll probably not use it :) [03:22] Thrice is still using his zx-80 [03:22] :/ [03:22] can anyne tell me how to setup ADSL on the Live CD ? [03:22] dhonn, k [03:23] Quicken is an absolute must... how hard is wine to get working under hoary? === tsn_ene [~tsn_ene@port47.ds1-arc.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu === nintendo_ [~nintendo@reverse-82-141-59-55.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has joined #ubuntu [03:23] its not hard, but crossover office might be a better bet [03:23] zx-80 ? [03:23] for official support [03:23] dhonn, I need to learn the "find" command [03:23] ha ha windows dependency [03:23] That costs more money =D [03:23] hello [03:23] curious when will the first batch of cds be shipped i'm waiting to add mine to my plaque of linux cds :) [03:23] i have a very good system [03:23] thr1ce: something we could buy and assemble in the early 80's [03:23] thechitowncubs: Crossover office has excellent quicken support I hear === jighead [~mps@pool-209-158-240-20.cap.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:23] locate xorg.conf [03:23] dhonn, ooh, ty [03:23] Yep, thats what it comes down to, Quicken is the app our bank uses and it grabs it from the web [03:23] ok... i'll read [03:24] there's a trial for cxoffice [03:24] athlon 2100, 1 gig of ram, radeon 9700 pro, actually [03:24] thechitowncubs: get the bank to refund your costs ;) [03:24] for god's sake, please give me few reasons why to _USE_ ubuntu linux?! [03:24] its free :) [03:24] lol [03:24] easy to install === flodine [~flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === superfrog [~tassilo@pD9E15710.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] that was the main reason for me [03:24] thr1ce: zx-80 : 1mhz cpu, 48k ram [03:24] frequent updates, very easy to install, pretty nice look [03:24] it's free, you might like it, if you don't you can get rid of it [03:24] Because if you do not monkeys with chainsaws will assault you [03:24] around 1 hour to install compaired to gentoo 5 days [03:24] thats enough reason for me [03:24] aah [03:24] gentoo is not 5 days :P [03:24] but lets not get into that === djm62 marshalls the monkeys armed with traceroute [03:24] bull [03:25] IIIEars, thanks; my system is actually likely quicker than yours [03:25] it took me 5 days to emerge stage 1 to stage 3 [03:25] nintendo_ I like it, so you must use it as well. you have no choice [03:25] can anyone help me with apache? [03:25] thr1ce: don't knock it, it was my first computer :) [03:25] hmm, xmms can't play shoutcast? [03:25] fazer, can for me, but I think you have to save the pls file and then open it as a playlist [03:25] nintendo_: what do you need to do? what are your priorities when choosing an OS? [03:25] Breakthrough: have the old shittay computer sitting in the house somewhere for quicken and whatever else [03:25] lol [03:25] im a genius === FC-tooki [~gdanies@200.21.6.132] has joined #ubuntu === benz240 [~benz240@cpe-065-190-136-012.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] monkey89: yeah, thats what I did...but it just doesn't play it =( [03:25] sup sup [03:26] not sure then.. sorry [03:26] need suggestions of songs similar to Metallica's One === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] djm62: i'm just doing some collective ubuntu-bashing with few friends.. i just wanted to hear few reasons from ubuntu users ;-) [03:26] at least, something with that kind of awesome shredding at the end [03:26] benz240: speaking as a fan...most metallica songs [03:26] do you think ubuntu will fine my slack install, and I can just format that ? [03:26] hows everyone tonight? [03:26] most of the stuff on the black album? [03:26] damn i need that one [03:26] nintendo_: ubuntu is good at what it is [03:26] AND, does ubuntu offer reiserFS! [03:26] Scuddie: hows that PC coming along [03:26] nintendo_: I think my reason was the most compelling [03:27] thr1ce: all the standard FSes are supported. [03:27] ? [03:27] benz240: also master of puppets...short but brilliant [03:27] nintendo_, I think there's nothing amazingly special about Ubuntu...I like it because it installed easily and without problems on my laptop and wireless, printing etc. was working right away [03:27] Almost done. [03:27] hi, does Ubuntu support updating music on my ipod shuffle ? [03:27] djm: ok thanks ill check it out [03:27] Do you need a new monitor? [03:27] crimsun, do you think it'll find my slack install so I can just format that and not have to mess with fdisc ? [03:27] One question. If Firestarter manages the iptables, if I add some custom ip blocking will that be ignored? [03:27] xmms, get gtkpod [03:27] xmms: yeah [03:27] s/fdisc/cfdisk === rvg|afk [~rVg@dsl-082-082-248-059.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:27] xmms: I think it does, with gnupod [03:27] thr1ce: sure, though you'll want to use Expert mode [03:27] xmms: you don't need gtkpod, it works fine in Rhythmbox [03:27] gnupod; gtkpod is actually best [03:27] Dethread: well, it's just about simplicity? [03:27] don't use gnupod, use gtkpod === xim [~simonp@toronto-HSE-ppp4294425.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:27] nintendo_: ubuntu is for me what debian testing should have always been, stable, with security updates, and debian packaging quality [03:28] nintendo_, I wouldn't use it as a server [03:28] make sure you ahve installed the mp3 plugin and drag the files from your library to your shuffle [03:28] xmms: or gtkpod... [03:28] crimsun, really? I've never done a text install before [03:28] can anyone help me with apache, im stuck :/ [03:28] Ubuntu is fine for a server [03:28] ratius: what's the problem? [03:28] Dethread: me neither ;) [03:28] has anyone here ever built a laptop from spare parts?! [03:28] crimsun, how rough is the expert install ? [03:28] anyone used gtkpod with a shuffle recently? or indeed tried the "ipod" icon in rhythmbox? [03:28] rofl nintendo_ [03:28] Dethread,robertj,djm62, thx, So that I can KILL format my M$ XP, lol, the ipod suport is the only last question I care about. [03:29] ;-) [03:29] xmms: before you kill, test... [03:29] xmms, yes; gtkpod works wonderfully [03:29] q [03:29] q [03:29] quit [03:29] :) [03:29] xmms: my wife has a shuffle, it works fine with no configuration other than making sure you install the mp3 librarys needed for gstreamer [03:29] xmms: it doesn't work if you can't use it...however good it is [03:30] thr1ce, the expert install is quite intuitive, also for casual users I would think [03:30] I imagine that you could probably manage to move the files on there without them but why bother trying [03:30] djm62, I used gtkpod today [03:30] with my shuffle [03:30] JoshuaSydney: use the sis driver. [03:30] JDahl, if i've managed a slack install, expert shouldn't be a problem ? [03:30] well thanks for the answers folks... ;-) [03:30] robertj: the ipod has a database on it...you can put the songs on but not play them without [03:30] Im command line. gnupod "for life yo" [03:30] djm52: rhythmbox does the database [03:30] NETSPLIT [03:30] W0)T [03:30] yay [03:30] woah [03:30] hahah irc split? [03:30] thr1ce: the expert mode just asks more questions as applicable. [03:30] GOGO netsplit! [03:30] thr1ce: it's not any more difficult === nintendo_ [~nintendo@reverse-82-141-59-55.dialin.kamp-dsl.de] has left #ubuntu [] [03:31] crimsun, ok === rvg|afk [~rVg@dsl-082-082-248-059.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu ["Homo] [03:31] thr1ce, if you have previous Linux experience, I think expert install is fine for you === Agrajag [~Agrajag@66-215-172-98.sb-eres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] hahah [03:31] that was fun [03:31] Hahah [03:31] Awesome. 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[03:31] Anyone using the pptp-config GUI to configure pptp connections? === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> tolkien.freenode.net === alindeman_ [adml@alindeman-gallery.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] hahah === hypno [~dan@195.137.28.172] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] wb everyone [03:31] thr1ce: using expert mode, yes. [03:31] dazed: Where an IRC server goes down, tons of people get kicked [03:31] anyway [03:31] djm52: rhythmbox does the database [03:31] robertj: cheers...nice to know [03:31] crimsun, and then I can set repositories to breezy, and run bleeding edge stuff? :) [03:31] my bro has one [03:31] Resonant: ahh ok [03:31] so drag from the library onto the ipod icon, and thats pretty much it === RastaMahata [~alvaro@pc-200-74-15-203.nunoa2.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #ubuntu === don-o [~donp@personaltelco.net] has left #ubuntu [] === sfw [~sfw@user-0cdvvcs.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] i do an apt-get upgrade and I'm unable to get libavcodeccvs libpostproc0!!! HELP! :( [03:32] thr1ce: you'd be a bit overboard to do that currently, but yes. === socratesone [~josh@c-24-62-175-176.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] crimsun, what do you mean? is breezy not worth working with ? [03:32] RastaMahata: you need debian-marillat testing [03:32] Rasta: do an apt-get update first [03:32] crimsun, oh :P === RastaMahata checks his sources === djm62 sleeps [03:32] night all [03:32] thr1ce: breezy is very rough about the edges. Currently we're just syncing from Sid. [03:32] monkey89: xmms is saying that its just connecting to the server, but the other media player plays it fine... === djm62 [~djm62@82-40-60-28.cable.ubr08.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [03:32] crimsun, there it is.. weird :( [03:33] deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main [03:33] crimsun, I like running updated software...well, at least with a few apps; am I allowed to pick and choose ? [03:33] USB-Stick support is broken in Breezy. 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[03:33] it's not broken [03:33] i'm here [03:33] and welcome back: === knucks [~chatzilla@pcp01189996pcs.waldlk01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] You want some ketchup with that netsplit? === monkey89 [~monkey@ool-44c69ae6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === Jzalae [~sk@66-252-38-162.da.midmaine.com] has joined #ubuntu === Punkt__ [~monkey@adsl-business-212-101-27-125.solnet.ch] has joined #ubuntu === caldwell [~caldwell@cerberus.dtn.radian.biz] has joined #ubuntu === zirpubolci [~zirpu@nefud.org] has joined #ubuntu === Legendre [~bela@chef.nerp.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] how do i add data to a cd i created before in ubuntu? [03:34] crimsun, like...lets say a new Gaim comes out; must I be running breezy to upgrade, or will it be available in hoary too ? [03:34] freenode is doing some stuff, just ignore. [03:34] It hurted... [03:34] How is it not broken? [03:34] I can't get it to work [03:34] what is the file where we put the dns addresses? [03:34] i never finalized that cd... [03:34] Ubuntu - has done away with my windows printserver Yippee! (clicks heels) [03:34] HOLY SHIT [03:34] nickrud, thx, [03:34] Resonant: sudo modprobe sd-mod === senator32 [~senator32@12-216-231-194.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] Thanks crim. [03:34] thr1ce, afaik, if its an important security update, you'll get it [03:34] OMFG WHAT IS GOING ON [03:34] help? === DanielSeuffert [~DanielSeu@62-167-21-24.adslpremium.ch] has joined #ubuntu === vaiux [~r00t@pool-70-106-22-192.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === kingsley [~kingsley@dsl-47-137.nas.com] has joined #ubuntu === MMond [~Bukkake@CPE-70-92-252-37.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === orospakr [~orospakr@209-195-116-108.c1.ac1.otton1.isp.cyberus.ca] has joined #ubuntu === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === pussfeller [~todd@d187.rtcol.com] has joined #ubuntu === TheMuso [~luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === aethyr [~aethyr@dyn006657-twr2-student.cpmc.columbia.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] linux for everything but Doom3 - lol [03:34] HAHAHAHAHAHA PWNAGE [03:34] HAY GUYZ WHATS GOIN ON IN THIS THREAD? [03:34] benz240, its a netsplit. === alindeman_ is now known as alindeman [03:34] benz240: netsplit [03:35] THEY DROPPIN LIKE FLIES [03:35] thr1ce: Breezy. [03:35] anyone? [03:35] Wow, 3 porn movies in open broadcast in Spanish TV... [03:35] :) [03:35] i configue my wireless card but all i ever get is it trying to get an IPv6 adress [03:35] WTF === andrewski [~andrewski@pool-151-197-228-28.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === darkaudit [~bpack@pool-151-205-45-125.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === The_Iconoclast [~goose@adsl-10-190-224.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === nybro43 [TzPl790c@pool-70-107-68-147.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === smok [~richard@clyne.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] help [03:35] crimsun, and you think i'll run into problems using breezy ? [03:35] ur tellin me [03:35] thr1ce: since Hoary released, it receives only security updates essentially. [03:35] netsplit: geek speak for things will break [03:35] dazed: hey, whats new? [03:35] thin: defiantely === Rav [~Nylira@cc71313-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:35] pussycat [03:35] fazer: hey not much what about urself [03:35] doh [03:35] anyone? please [03:35] is breezy preview out? === root [~root@12.173.104.195] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] thr1ce: I'm one of many working hard to try and make that transition smooth. [03:35] stuff will break all the time in breezy for the next 4 months [03:35] HOLY SHIT [03:35] dazed: good lord, Hoary _just_ released. [03:35] dazed: good good, got ubuntu config'ed and what not. [03:35] can i have someone to help me [03:36] senator, what do you need help with? [03:36] scuddie, done yet? [03:36] crimsun: well someone said "will that work on breezy" thought it mighta been out [03:36] crimsun, if i'm only using it for desktop (no server stuff, etc.); will I notice anything? [03:36] lol [03:36] i need to configur my WiFi adapter so it can connect to my 128bit wep [03:36] fazer: nice ... no problems ihope [03:36] Im on breezy, just edit and apt-get update and dist-upgrade if you feel inclined for your wrists to bleed [03:36] dazed: nope, not much. [03:36] good good [03:36] thr1ce: there are some new versions of something, yes, but I'd hold off for a couple weeks. [03:36] crimsun, you dont get an error upgrading? [03:36] dhonn, I cp'd the xorg.conf file and it doesn't show up in the directory of the other machine! the log files copied ok though... [03:36] nickrud, Maybe I should try a LiveCD first. [03:36] WTF IS GOING ON [03:36] with the kernel version 2.6.10-5-686 does the -5 on the end refer to the patches that have been applied to the source? [03:36] \ [03:37] RastaMahata: no, but I'm also not on Hoary. [03:37] it trys now but wants a ipv6 add not an IPv4 [03:37] no one knows? [03:37] are you kidding me [03:37] oh [03:37] thrice: use the custom partitin option,you'll be all set(manual partiton),very nice [03:37] xmms: it'll tell you if all your stuff is recognised. [03:37] dhonn, I did ls the drive before I removed it to make sure it was on there; it was [03:37] WTF IS GOING ON [03:37] benz240, calm down. [03:37] crimsun, hm...ok; but after that, it's generally pretty stable? I run slackware -current, which is also a "pre=release beta" , but find it to be pretty stable as well === sfw [~sfw@user-0cdvvcs.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:37] hmm [03:37] haha this is nuts [03:37] it should be there [03:37] anyone? please... [03:37] who here is on hoary and get an error upgrading through apt-get with marillat repositories? [03:37] you might have to remount? === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:37] thr1ce: yes, it's actually fine right now, but I'd hold off just to be safe. [03:37] dhonn, I even cp'ed it to xorgconf.txt ... [03:37] whats wrong knucks? [03:37] i want to add files to my cd-r disc [03:37] benz240, it stopped 5 minutes ago man. Calm down. [03:37] dhonn, ok === root is now known as dottedquad [03:37] dude, this thing is just scrolling text like crazy [03:38] ...Its IRC [03:38] its like IRC on speed [03:38] Awww!!! [03:38] dhonn, every time I unplug the drive I have to remount [03:38] knucks: i highly suggest getting k3b much easier [03:38] What the hell do you expect it to do? [03:38] Lame! [03:38] FINALLY it stopped [03:38] crimsun, hm...interesting; any reason you can think of to not switch from a slack install? :P [03:38] Breezy will be selinux? - very cool! [03:38] dazed: i have gnomebaker.. [03:38] Newegg's RPC service just went down! [03:38] knucks: ahh ok [03:38] haha sorry i thought i was the only person in here [03:38] thr1ce: that choice is entirely yours. [03:38] thr1ce: a good point to consider changing is when mono 1.1.x makes it into breezy, That's when things will get interesting. [03:38] crimsun, hehe, I know : [03:38] dhonn, well, thx.. that's all the fun I get to have for now.. thx for all the help. and you too crimsun [03:38] Reblended: np [03:38] LOL, damnit [03:39] nickrud, i'm not familiar with mono...? [03:39] but i already put files on that cd.. [03:39] never finalized em [03:39] so i want to add more now [03:39] think microsoft .net [03:39] there are already 1.1.6 prepackages for Sid, so it's only a matter of time for Breezy. [03:39] I think beagle. [03:39] Well, crap. I had a nice one too. I was almost finished, I think I could have gotten it for close to 360 bucks. [03:39] (I'm actually using them on my Sid machine) [03:39] nickrud, what will it be used for ? [03:39] crimsun: hey, i still haven't figured HOW I was able to get sound working in this machine =/ [03:40] Hi all, Q: and I am really pissed off! I have just installed a SATA hard drive and re-installed haory and... errors-horrors: The drive is not initialized, even though RAID stuff is successfull. I am in windows XP which installed well before hoary!!! Thus my harddisk can't be used with hoary! [03:40] fazer: ...ok [03:40] crimsun: anyways, thanks for your help though [03:40] thrice, beagle indexes all your stuff so you can find it; crimsun; really in sid ? (haven't updated since mid march ) [03:40] ok, it's back up again [03:40] any way to do this? [03:41] nickrud: no, not in sid, in the debian-mono repo [03:41] works fine with breezy, too [03:41] crimsum, thx. [03:41] ok...anyone think of a reason as to why switching from slack is bad? [03:41] I heard I will see a speed decrease... ? [03:41] thrice: no, you might find you have more free time === benz240 [~benz240@cpe-065-190-136-012.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [03:41] which is a hazard for most people running slack [03:41] anyone ever burned a cd in ubuntu? [03:41] which I find hard to believe, seeing as i'm going from 2.4 to a 2.6 [03:41] robertj, thri1ce :) [03:41] one that uve burned before but want to add to it [03:42] also it might lead to feeling uneeded [03:42] Hi all, Q: and I am really pissed off! I have just installed a SATA hard drive and re-installed haory and... errors-horrors: The drive is not initialized, even though RAID stuff is successfull. I am in windows XP which installed well before hoary!!! Thus my harddisk can't be used with hoary! [03:42] robertj, i'm sick of compiling stuff :( [03:42] sure, obviously slack is for hardcore lunix users, so you might find you have a smaller ego. ;p [03:42] j/k === stub [~stub@203-217-40-144.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:42] oh; on a debian system, can I build deb packs (er...ubuntu packs) from source without compiling ? [03:42] lets say I can't find it in a repository === alumik [~alberto@163.Red-80-25-173.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:42] thr1ce: you can but you don't need to probably [03:42] There's always slapt-get right? [03:42] GUISlave, if you want to ruin your box, yes === popobsd [~xmms@220.112.7.19] has joined #ubuntu [03:43] ...build debs from source without compiling? [03:43] lol [03:43] GUISlave, slapt-get is really bad at dependencies [03:43] unless there's some magic I don't know about, no. [03:43] thr!ce: that is the _exact_ reason I settled on debian sid, and have hopes for ubuntu. [03:43] I put a slackware box on the net once and it got hacked pretty bad. I was brand new at the time. [03:43] th1ce: apt-src is better [03:43] No fault of slack, just didn't know what I was doing. [03:43] Question, how can I block ips at eth* layer? [03:43] I think there is an apt-get build-deps as well [03:43] what is the package file to add a website? [03:43] eh...this box is pretty damn secure [03:43] thechitowncubs: do you need dvd capabilities? [03:43] sometimes i install one package, and when i use apt-get remove package it wants to remove all its dependencies as well, how do i prevent this? [03:43] good iptables, up to date everything === zoroman [~xavier@modemcable033.81-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:44] PacoBCN: you can block IPs at the IP layer. You'd block MAC addresses at the Ethernet layer. [03:44] I don't think slack is secure out of the box though [03:44] Ubuntu is [03:44] Hi, does anybody knows how to mount a compact flash in a PCMCIA adapter? [03:44] Hoary === qweqw [~qweqwe@cpe-65-189-111-161.insight.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:44] GUISlave, well, depends how you set up your install [03:44] GUISlave, i rid of alot of services I don't use [03:44] zoroman: just push it into the adapter [03:44] Yeah, I will eventually set up another slackware box and manually do that [03:45] zoroman: assuming you actually have an adapter ;) [03:45] GUISlave, eh, it's nice; but Patrick is getting bad about updates === mainer [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-149.gwi.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:45] crimsun, I'm running firestarter, if I manually add ip filters, will firestarter remove them? or ignore them? [03:45] thechitowncubs: DVD or not? [03:45] is slackware developed by one man? [03:45] calc: yes but is it mapped as a SCSI device? [03:45] yes [03:45] PacoBCN: it will block those IPs you specify. [03:45] hoary liveCD - what is the ubuntu user's password? [03:45] I'll venture into BSD for my MP3 server [03:45] and maintained by one man [03:45] zoroman: duh i misread what you meant, you probably need pcmcia support for the device [03:45] nevermind... === Phoenix_Away is now known as Phoenix_Zero [03:45] calc: yes it's a compact flash card [03:45] crimsun, thanks, dude [03:46] what ever he likes you must like? [03:46] how many processes run on a standard XFCE with ubuntu, out of curiosity [03:46] thr1ce: the only thing you have to do to keep Ubuntu secure is not make any insecure changes [03:46] dhonn, no; he maintains most software; but, I compile alot myself [03:46] anyone runnign xfce right now ? [03:46] cause he didnt compile it for you? [03:46] dhonn, yeah === Duffman [~Duffman@c-24-12-163-96.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:46] dhonn, well, alot of extra stuff mostloy [03:46] mostly [03:46] shame on him j/k [03:47] thr1ce: I'd recommend gnome for a few weeks just so you have rights to complain about ubuntu-spatial [03:47] we don't have repositories to download stuff :( [03:47] zoroman: it didn't automatically detect it when you inserted the card? [03:47] noone running xfce... ? [03:47] calc: no I get no kernel message [03:47] thr1ce: ~65 [03:47] zoroman: hmm [03:47] crimsun, when you start it up regularly?! [03:47] calc: and sg_scan -i list no devices [03:47] thr1ce: I'm not currently running Xfce, but I'm one of the maintainers. [03:47] ubuntu-spatial with backspace doesnt work right [03:47] ok, i'm new on irc. i did an /away feeding the cat, and /away meaning I'm back. did it w0rk :) === calc looks around for his pcmcia adapter to test with === Arrogance [~aks@CPE0050ba556e4b-CM001225423850.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:47] crimsun, I have about 45 here... [03:47] bug or feature? [03:48] thr1ce: I have several ices2 and icecast2 instances running, too [03:48] (and sshds) [03:48] nickrud, /back ? [03:48] calc: my wlan card works in the same socket === DanielSeuffert [~DanielSeu@62-167-21-24.adslpremium.ch] has left #ubuntu ["Free] [03:48] crimsun: how's the video card searching goin? [03:48] calc: and I can mount USB drives so I guess I have all modules needed [03:48] crimsun, ok...what about gnome ? [03:49] JoshuaSydney: I actually answered you a while back (~10 mins) [03:49] crimsun, near 70 i'm guessing ? [03:49] Anyone here able to help me with getting AA to get sound? === nelsong [~nelsong@73santiagord07.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu [03:49] JoshuaSydney: you should be using the sis driver [03:49] thr1ce: I'll look it up, thanks [03:49] thr1ce: yep, 68 on my box [03:49] nickrud, run /back [03:49] crimsun: that was about restarting... not driver... [03:49] zoroman: ok i'll test mine now, i normally just use the built in card reader in my laptop [03:49] JoshuaSydney: no, I told you to use the sis driver. [03:49] crimsun: it says i cannot start x server... [03:49] what command line will force all config files to be reinstalled? [03:49] crimsun, but gnome runs pretty quick i'd imagine [03:50] crimsun, the latest gnoem i've ran is 2.6.1, which I didn't like much === njan [~james@80.68.82.20] has joined #ubuntu [03:50] xfce runs quicker [03:50] thr1ce: no, Xfce is considerably snappier. My machine is low-mem. [03:50] well...of course [03:50] crimsun: how can i install specific driver for my video card in linux [03:50] crimsun, aah; I've got a gig of ram and a gig swap [03:50] JoshuaSydney: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [03:50] JoshuaSydney: choose the sis driver [03:51] robertj: not that simple. [03:51] ok...i'm gonna try er out [03:51] bbiab, hopefully :) [03:51] crimsun: package 'xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available [03:52] zoroman: it found it as an ide device for me [03:52] nickrud: why does purging and install not work. [03:52] oh, do they belong to apache2-common? [03:52] robertj: which package? [03:52] Ugh! [03:52] calc: what happens when you plug it [03:52] that's probably why [03:52] it loaded ide-cs [03:52] not sure if that was all though [03:52] Stupid newegg. [03:53] I hope this works === berli [~rasch@user-10lf8h9.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu [] [03:53] zoroman: i'll reboot and see if anything else is needed [03:53] crimsun: package 'xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available ... that was the message, what should i do next? [03:53] robertj: although, purge and reinstall is usually my first step :) [03:53] calc: thanks [03:53] JoshuaSydney: are you on Warty or Hoary? [03:53] warty [03:53] JoshuaSydney: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [03:53] the original disk is 4.10 version i think [03:53] ok, this is anoying... hoary live CD, the screen saver kicked in, and it wants a PW to let me back in [03:54] CarlK: switch to tty1, sudo passwd ubuntu [03:54] CarlK: then enter a password === zab_ [~a@pcp09692429pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === dantheman [~dan@wm135-207.resnet.wm.edu] has joined #ubuntu [03:55] Here's the best I could find for under $400... http://secure.newegg.com/app/WishList.asp?position=HISTORY&submit=VIEW&ID=1468283 [03:55] i have an nvidia card....if i turn on the "RenderAccel" option, but don't use compositing, will it still speed up X? [03:55] (What's tty1? heh..) [03:55] crimsun: im done [03:55] dantheman: didn't do anything noticeable for me === pestilence [~pestilenc@12-210-84-86.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:55] crimsun: should i restart? [03:55] crimsun: would you happen to know the person who created the weather plugin for xfce? [03:56] crimsun: or restart GDM? [03:56] theoretically, could it hand off the rendering to the gpu, speeding up other applications? [03:56] but it did wonders when compositing was used [03:56] zoroman: yea the only module it loaded was ide-cs [03:56] zoroman: does loading that fix it for you? [03:56] Scuddie: I tried the link, but I don't have a cookie :) === danwolf [~memnoch@pcp459136pcs.7acres01.ar.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [03:56] crimsun - thanks [03:56] calc: I don't think I have this module [03:56] Dangit [03:56] well, when i first start X using compositing, it gives all these crazy stripes of colors, and i can only get ride of them by dragging something over them, forcing a repaint [03:56] rid, not ride [03:56] Scuddie: secure sucks. [03:57] calc: I will compile it [03:57] thanks [03:57] so turned compositing off [03:57] zoroman: hmm that is odd [03:57] or not, depending on the circumstances. [03:57] zoroman: for me its under kernel/drivers/ide/legacy/ide-cs.ko [03:57] calc: is there a way to compile a single module? [03:58] calc: I have a custom kernel [03:58] zoroman: not easily [03:58] zoroman: ah yea i use default kernels === davix [~lama@85-65-147-205.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [03:58] calc: ha I found it, compiled :D [03:58] does anybody know of an extention that will allow the scroll wheel to cycle through tabs when held over the tabbar? === slappy11 [~johnny@adsl-69-107-59-251.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:59] Try this, then. http://secure.newegg.com/app/WishHistoryReview.asp?position=HISTORY&submit=VIEW&ID=1468283 === netfighter [~The@netfighter.student.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [04:00] mello: should be default behaviour [04:00] calc: It works as hde1, thanks a lot [04:00] oh are you talking about firefox? [04:00] it isn't [04:00] yeah [04:00] zoroman: no problem :) [04:01] dunno [04:01] what do you use? [04:01] i thought you meant the desktop thingie [04:01] oh no [04:01] heh yeah i like that [04:01] you scrollwheel over that and it'll change desktops [04:01] yeppers [04:01] i use it all the time, in fact i used it to get here === socratesone [~josh@c-24-62-175-176.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:02] foxfire is slow [04:02] it is? [04:02] since when? [04:02] foxfire is a comic [04:02] firefox is a browser [04:02] Are they planning to update firefox in 5.04? [04:02] since i tryed epiphany-browser [04:02] 5.04 is already here. [04:03] I know, but there's a new version of Firefox (1.03 I think) w/ a security fix [04:03] does Ubuntu come with a torrent downloader? [04:03] fazer yep [04:03] its Gnome BitTorrent [04:03] netfighter: oh, what is it called? === zbowling [~zbowling@adsl-68-95-177-144.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:04] get azureus [04:04] ! [04:04] is this bad:13398 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2679.600 FPS [04:04] Gnome BitTorrent [04:04] well [04:04] mmm [04:04] azuerus has the kde icons, but the gtk framework [04:04] thanks [04:05] weird [04:05] well holla back [04:05] is the fps bad [04:05] is this bad:13398 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2679.600 FPS [04:05] i'd take a guess at no === jighead [~soccio@pool-209-158-240-20.cap.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === bondi [~josef@fw.valek.uh.cz] has joined #ubuntu [04:06] 3197 frames in 5.0 seconds = 639.400 FPS i need a new computer [04:06] ok [04:07] what did u use to get those stats? [04:07] looks like the output of glxgears [04:07] loade nvidia drivers [04:07] cool, thanks [04:07] is there a default root passwd after installing? [04:07] ubuntu site tell how to load the drivers [04:08] i have the drivers === Mansor [~edgar@r200-125-48-29-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] hi [04:08] hi [04:08] hey mansor [04:08] slappy11 no, sudo passwd [04:08] what could be wrong if your dvds seem to have, well, like a short gap between what you see and what you hear? [04:08] i did sudo, but im not in sudoers [04:08] slappy11: the password is the same as the password of the first account added [04:09] err...well, i tried that...tried null..nothin [04:09] lettme try again [04:09] anyone use skype? [04:09] i've got sound issues [04:09] omg..sudo passwd worked [04:09] who wants to help me out [04:09] is that for real? [04:09] is that in a doc? sudo passwd? [04:09] Mansor, enabled the ability to play multiple sounds === fangorious [~justin@cpe-67-10-250-51.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:10] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8882 [04:10] wow...what if i didnt want a user account? [04:10] slappy: does id yourname show you to be in group admin? [04:10] admin is in suoders [04:10] how [04:10] rob: its a fresh install [04:10] lettme ssh in === skel_home [~skel@ip68-230-51-68.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:10] where i enable it? === lemsx1 is now known as lemsx1|gone [04:10] slappy: your in the admin group by default and admin is in sudoers by default [04:10] is that a problem? [04:10] other than creating a gzipped 640x480 xpm with 14 bit color and specifying itwith the splashimage option in my /boot/grub/menu.lst, how do I get a grub splashimage? [04:11] Mansor, its not there by default, not yet anyway [04:11] No, I can watch the DVD perfectly but, like, they move their lips before I can hear their voice. I don't know where's the problem [04:11] i dont mind adm, it reminds me of wheel [04:11] but, its strange that i need a user account to set root.. what if i wanted to install w/o a default user [04:11] has anyone had any luck with 5.04 and a webcam? my webcam driver loads as well as bttv and videodev but it creates no /dev/video device === jannifer [~jannifer@c-66-176-195-87.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:11] crimsun: hey, remember when I had to kill esd to use mplayer or vlc . . . . [04:11] mknod [04:11] ok, but where i enable the multi sound [04:12] hey; having trouble getting my i810 to display larger than 640x480 despite having larger resolutions in the xorg.conf file [04:12] slappy: tought === jighead [~soccio@pool-209-158-240-20.cap.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:12] you have to have a default user unless you do something odd [04:12] tough? [04:12] janniffer, I think I can help [04:12] wow === helio7 [~michael@wbar21.lax1-4.26.216.34.lax1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:12] jannifer, I think I can help :) [04:12] nickrud, tried NoDDC and IgnoreEDID [04:12] ubuntu is really workstation-centric [04:13] it's actually an 845 chip but same driver anyways [04:13] slappy: btw, adm is different from admin [04:13] default users are in both groups [04:13] ya, obviously [04:13] jannifer, how much memory do you have reserved under device in xorg.conf === dphase [~dphase@24.183.204.44] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] admin exists only for sudoing, adm does other stuff, but what I know not [04:13] really? === helio7 wishes I was back on warty sometimes :-( hoary keeps crashing and I'm not sure why [04:13] slappy11, when you install ubuntu from cd and type: server, what happens? === beggar [~beggar@bl4-29-175.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] anyone? grub splashimage? === nelsong_ [~nelsong@73santiagord07.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] i havent tried that yet. [04:13] only base system is installed [04:13] it should be striped down just for server usage [04:14] i think [04:14] nickrud, none [04:14] with the option server [04:14] i wanted to see a typical install first, but i also want to do 'server' to muck around w/ it [04:14] helio try to switch kernels, it helped me [04:14] slappy: that's the one part of ubuntu I'm responsible for! I whined and someone told me to submit a patch and I did, and after someone rewrote it from scratch it went in ;) [04:14] nvidia/hoary folks: What are you doing? Proprietary drivers? yes/no? Crash problems??? I get 2 common crashes: 1 is a complete freeze- hard reset necessary, the other is gdm reboots without warning... [04:14] netfighter: what kernel did you switch to? [04:14] helio7: I've found that with the screensaver [04:14] cool. alright. thanks alot, all === mello [~mello@c-67-162-226-133.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:15] Next, what't horz and vert refesh do you have under monitor? [04:15] the one before the newest, I can't rememeber the number, but it solved my problems [04:15] HrdwrBoB: I have my screensaver disabled... [04:15] helio7: ahr [04:15] nickrud, those were set correctly as x.org has my monitor in the database [04:15] netfighter: hoary installs 2.6.10 whereas warty was 2.6.8 I think right? What are the implications of going back to the older kernel? [04:16] ok, that makes it simple (probably:) [04:16] hte hell [04:16] Totem can play quicktime? But all I hear is sound and no video =( [04:16] anyone know why udev wouldn't generate a video device for me? /dev/video[0] [04:16] Warty was Rock-Solid never crashed in 3 months of steady use... With hoary I'm crashing without fail every 2 hours or so... === bpuccio [~brian@ool-18b91a74.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:17] helio7: so.. go back to warty? [04:17] what you should do is cd /etc/X11 , mv xorg.conf xorg.conf.mine, and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. [04:17] did, no luck [04:17] this is a fresh install anyways [04:17] helio7, I've been using Ubuntu since Warty, so I have like 3 or 4 different kernels available at the Grub. So far I haven't found any side issue === fangorious [~justin@cpe-67-10-250-51.houston.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:17] and I have no idea how much video ram is on this thing. /proc has been no use === dustoff [~chatzilla@61.68.111.136] has joined #ubuntu [04:18] jannifer: you need to tell xorg to set aside enough memory. [04:18] skel_home: downgrading would be the last option, there's no smooth downgrade it would require a complete backup and reinstall from scratch I'm pretty sure; I'd rather find a more intelligent solution than going back to Warty; I am a serious Ubuntu fan, I'm not dissing the product, just looking for answers; thanks netfighter... I'll try that [04:19] anyone running 64 bit with no problems [04:19] jannifer: i810? [04:19] Is anyone else running nvidia proprietary drivers under hoary? or has disabled them? [04:19] you know a regenerate-xorg-conf script would be useful, it's a pretty common faq [04:19] nickrud, i810 is the driver, 845G is the actual chipset [04:19] i have nvidia drivers working, works pretty nice [04:19] Can anyone help me with getting Americas Army to have sound? [04:20] helio7: you could always build a custom kernel as well if you have reason to believe that is the cause [04:20] i had to recompile the kernel though [04:20] helio7: apt-get install kernel-package [04:20] hmm google did the trick, tis 65535kb [04:20] then grab the drivers from nvidia.com/linux [04:20] lemme check [04:20] ok, for memory, enter 32768. I just helped someone with this today, we had to enter the scan rates manually, but this was the ke. [04:20] brb [04:20] key., [04:20] helio7: and build your own from kernel.org with make-kpkg [04:20] nickrud, this machine has 64MB, aka 65535K [04:20] helio7: it'll make a deb that is an entire kernel contained [04:21] hmm ok thanks skel_home; sounds a little tricky [04:21] dhonn how did you recompile the kernel? === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:22] helio7: I grabbed the config from /boot and dropped it in my source tree.. then did a make oldconfig === blahrus_ [~blahrus@12-223-50-121.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:23] anyone in here alsa savy? [04:23] shoot. [04:23] helio7, have u looked for clues in dmesg? === godsmoke [~godsmoke@cpe-66-108-155-162.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:23] no netfighter remind me of the command to view that? [04:23] just dmesg? [04:24] crimsun: alsa-uninit: pcm closed [04:24] yep [04:24] crimsun: didn't change anything from the last time, other than moving some ram around [04:24] i: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10-5-386 [04:24] blahrus_: ...there's nothing wrong. [04:24] cd /usr/src/ [04:24] dhonn: linux-source-2.6.10 or linux-headers-$(uname -r) [04:24] extracted the source [04:24] source [04:24] there is no linux-source-$(uname -r) [04:25] crimsun: well mplayer crash, esd doesn't play startup sounds, and when I kill esd and trying to use mpalyer thats when mplayer crashes [04:25] linux-source-2.6.10 [04:25] blahrus_: what sound card? === Mansor [~edgar@r200-125-48-29-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [04:26] not 2.6.10-5-386 [04:26] crimsun: Card: NVidia CK8S ?? Chip: C-Media Electronics CMI9761 [04:26] crimsun: been working for a weeks [04:26] blahrus_: heh. lsmod|grep ^snd_intel8x0 [04:26] what i did then is mv linux-source-2.6.10 linux-2.6.10-5.1-386 [04:27] edit the Makefile to match the version [04:27] dhonn: then you have to run make prepare === Ex-Cyber [~excyber@cpe-024-211-182-083.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:27] dhonn: to regenerate version.h [04:27] make oldconfig [04:27] ah === mello [~mello@c-67-162-226-133.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Dreamer3_ [~josh@sdn-ap-010tnnashP0452.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:28] then i compile that stuff, make modules_install install [04:28] dhonn: and yes, you do need to run make oldconfig after copying over /boot/config-$(uname -r) [04:28] ok === NixerX [~nixerx@pool-64-222-240-68.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:29] mv it over to .config [04:29] question what script needs to be loaded or command typed to do a upgrade from the live cd? when i put the cd in the first time it asked to upgrade but had an error by not being connected so it aborted now i can't get the automatic update thing back. [04:29] i'd REALLY Love some help with this memory leak problem... 2 or 3 days again... and all my memory is used, regardless of what programs are open.. [04:29] and i'm not really using anything not in the stock Ubuntu (thinks hard) [04:29] ey crimsum how do you make the initrd.img? [04:29] mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.10-5.1 2.6.10-5.1 [04:29] crimsun: any thoughts? [04:29] my floppy drive doesn't seem to be working in hoary, any attempt to mount it gives " end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0" and "Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0" in dmesg... any idea what's going on here? [04:30] dhonn: see the man page for mkinitrd :) [04:31] mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.10-5.1 2.6.10-5.1 is right === skel_home [~skel@ip68-230-51-68.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:31] then i reboot [04:31] Guess what? [04:31] install nvidia drivers from the website and it works [04:31] Dreamer3_: free -m|grep ^-|awk '{ print $4 }' [04:32] crimsun: any thoughts . . . seems alsa is bugged === netfighter [~The@netfighter.student.supporter.pdpc] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:32] jordanau, we await with bated breath. === jannifer [~jannifer@c-66-176-195-87.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:32] nickrud, thanks i was waiting for someone [04:32] blahrus_: sorry, I'm doing about six things simultaneously [04:32] edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst to default to the new kernel [04:32] ubuntu and linux have inspired me to change my major!! I am going to go into computer science [04:32] ok, that still didn't work [04:32] crimsun: 145, what's that? :) [04:32] crimsun: I understand [04:32] I have the "Window selector" in my panel off . . . but anyway I can actually "disable" it? I feel that it's running in the background . . . (remember, I'm on a 266 mhz laptop ;\) [04:32] jordanau, and I was the sucker :) [04:32] Dreamer3_: that's the amount of usable free memory. [04:33] i hate the engineering i am in now and i want to learn more about the computer industry [04:33] I'd stick with engineering [04:33] blahrus, arn't you the one that was telling me about the cd asing for upgrade? [04:33] i am in chemical [04:33] (but that's just me) [04:33] and doing pre medice [04:33] I'm in the social services industry much better. [04:33] medicine === frank [~frank@67.71.33.124] has joined #ubuntu [04:33] I just took the FE yesterday [04:33] I love gfx programming and I feel the gfx rendering slow, what source packages should I be looking at to optimize them? [04:33] nothing like sitting on one's arse for 8 hours. [04:34] crimsun: yeah, because i just closed firefox... 95 after i turn swap off... i don't have anything mroe running than after i do after a freww reboot except then there is 200-300mb free [04:34] i am still going to medical school but will use computer science to get there [04:34] now that is an interesting path [04:34] make medical program === frank_ [~frank@67.71.33.124] has joined #ubuntu [04:34] nickrud: X seems to think there's nothing wrong now but it's still setting 640x480 === frank_ [~frank@67.71.33.124] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:34] crimsun, yeah if i go into the computer industry as a career I will go into the business side of things ASAP [04:34] crimsun: if i keep running for a few more days swap usage will continue to go up as the number you're interested in goes down [04:34] Dreamer3_: that's normal [04:34] 58000 people a year die from computer related bugs [04:35] fix them [04:35] ctrl-alt-numplus does nothing [04:35] dhonn, the people or the bugs? [04:35] jannifer, what you need to do is look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log [04:35] crimsun: i'm not talking buffers and cache... i'm talking real free memory... it disappears over time [04:35] Dreamer3_: that's normal. [04:35] crimsun: how come no one will believe me, this doesn't happen on other systems [04:35] both [04:35] crimsun: so every 3 days when i run out of memory i reboot? [04:35] lol [04:35] Dreamer3_: no, Linux is _supposed_ to grab all the free RAM. [04:35] it will tell you much, and if you'll post it to pastebin.com I'll take a look. [04:35] crimsun: i understand taht === XbruceX [~bruce@cpe-69-201-223-224.hvc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:36] Dreamer3_: and you're using 2.6.10-34? [04:36] Mem: 256300 238988 17312 <-free thats pleny [04:36] nickrud: looking at it, I don't really see anything out of the ordinary [04:36] crimsun: i'm saying all my memory disappears, not to cache and buffer... i could quit X at it's worse and still only have 300-400mb in use... (not counting buffers and cache) after a reboot it's only like 34mb [04:36] jannifer, nothing about display modes disallowed because of not enough memory? [04:36] Dreamer3_: swap out memory; try another motherboard [04:36] Dreamer3_: run memtest86 [04:37] crimsun: it's a laptop [04:37] hi where can I find the boot log? [04:37] Dreamer3_: so run memtest [04:37] dang how do i get this install cd to auto run again :( [04:37] crimsun: warty exhibited this same behavior but maybe 30-50 days [04:37] Dreamer3_: there is nothing more crimsun can do [04:37] /var/log [04:37] I think :x [04:37] frank: /var/log/dmesg ? [04:37] crimsun: ok... memtest? i wasn't aware the kernel located and flagged bad memory, is that what are you suggesting? [04:37] frank: or do you want all the lsb output, too? [04:37] nickrud: nope === pilo [~pilo@c-24-15-239-127.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:37] Dreamer3_: reboot and run it [04:38] Dreamer3_: hit esc and select memtest86 [04:38] I just want the same thing you see when you boot up [04:38] Dreamer3_: no, I'm saying you should test your memory. The Ubuntu patches don't include badram. === trey [~trey@64.178.100.227.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] oh now I'm getting no mode of this name [04:38] hmm [04:38] ok, let's look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf [04:38] crimsun: ok, i'll test it [04:38] crimsun: but the system is ROCK solid, just all the memory disappears over a few days [04:38] the monitor section should have your scan rates; horz and vert [04:38] crimsun: i've seen memory glitches before [04:38] must be because of NoDDC [04:38] nickrud: they're there but I have no mode lines [04:38] crimsun: but i will run it when i reboot [04:38] :( === Shachaf [~Shachaf@line133-191.adsl.actcom.co.il] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] Apr 17 20:40:48 localhost kernel: hda: drive_cmd: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } [04:39] Apr 17 20:40:48 localhost kernel: hda: drive_cmd: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError } [04:39] What does that mean? :x [04:39] jannifer: mode lines are so 3.x [04:39] crimsun: yes -34 rev of the kernel [04:39] what are your scan rate entries? [04:39] when I disable noddc I get mode clock problems === rrfs1 [~andi@217.201.67.32] has left #ubuntu [] [04:40] crimsun: I fixed it :) [04:40] crimsun: stupid alsa mixer [04:40] blahrus_: you should have only needed to mute IEC958 Capture Monitor [04:41] crimsun: somehow it wasn't [04:41] crimsun: how many runs is enough since the system is 100% stable... 1 run? [04:41] Dreamer3_: as many as you can bear [04:41] crimsun: and when it comes back no problem? [04:41] brb [04:41] crimsun: try a different kernel? [04:41] Dreamer3_: how much memory? [04:41] nickrud: horiz 30-70, vert 50-160 [04:41] crimsun: 512mb [04:41] Dreamer3_: let it run for a few hours [04:42] that will suffice. [04:42] crimsun: what's the logic of checking for bad memory when there is an apparent memory leak? [04:42] Dreamer3_: it's not apparent that your _hardware_ is faultless. [04:42] jannifer, please post /etc/X11/xorg.cong and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin.com so I can see them. [04:42] jannifer, please post /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin.com so I can see them. [04:43] crimsun: so the upgrade to hoary bringing ont he problem is coincidental, ok :) [04:43] nickrud: fixed it, ubuntu config refused to write HorizSync and VertRefresh to xorg.conf [04:43] works now =) [04:43] thanks for your help [04:43] hey, I'll take credit [04:43] Dreamer3_: I have no idea, but you describe a problem that's easiest to debug from the base === mkrenz [~mkrenz@static-66-244-85-183.smithvilledsl.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === etzerd [~etzerd@ool-4357b56b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:44] Hello room [04:44] crimsun: "from the base" means? [04:44] Dreamer3_: moving from Warty to Hoary has a huge coincidence matrix, it'd be impossible to debug. [04:44] Dreamer3_: from the bottom up. [04:44] crimsun: ok, so i run memtest === jannifer [~jannifer@c-66-176-195-87.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:44] crimsun: i'll come back tomorrow [04:44] yay. [04:44] i'm not gonna reboot right now [04:45] now to finish the rest of mom's computer ;) [04:45] crimsun: how to configure the warty xserver again>>>? [04:45] Dreamer3_: the best you can hope for is that memtest86 doesn't find anything. [04:45] crimsun: it won't, i'm confident... not that i've never been wrong, but... [04:45] JoshuaSydney: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 === kev__ [~kev@227-145.SPEEDe.golden.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:45] crimsun: i'd almost be happy if it did, then i just order new ram [04:45] crimsun: i'm pretty sure it won't and i'll be right back here with the same issue [04:45] crimsun, I think that would be the *best* result rather than the worst [04:46] jannifer: I did say best [04:46] crimsun: thanks [04:46] ah, heh === chavo [~chavo@104.sub-70-213-77.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:46] Dreamer3_: no, you'll have eliminated that possibility. [04:46] (well, probability if you want to be pedantic) [04:47] crimsun: i did a fresh install, installed linux-headers-... and build-essential, and am trying to build hostap-driver now (which provides the hostap module). it's complaining that CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not supported in the current kernel (the stock kernel shipped with 5.04), and i confirm this in the .config. but that surprises me as i thought many wireless nics required it. any thoughts? [04:47] crimsun: vesa doesn't work either [04:48] times ago i had a app to tweak the nvidia graphic card...but i've forgot the name :s ....someone knows? [04:48] ok [04:48] i found it === Flik [~flik@d207-6-196-246.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:48] yank [04:48] :P [04:48] nvidia-settings or nvclock? [04:49] yank [04:49] oh. that. [04:49] thunderbird doesn't have too much love for that program. [04:49] why? [04:49] anyone have any info about the stock kernel having been built with CONFIG_NET_RADIO? [04:49] ask him, he's nvclock's author. [04:49] ok, anyone wanna give me some irc help? I'm shown as awa,y, don't wana be. === goedson [~goedson@BHE054188.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [04:50] crimsun: vesa works [04:50] JoshuaSydney: which is it? [04:50] JoshuaSydney: it works, or it doesn't? [04:50] kev__: you must be using -386 [04:50] crimsun: works, after i write in Driver "vesa" instead of Driver "sis" [04:50] kev__: because 686-smp has CONFIG_NET_RADIO=y [04:50] JoshuaSydney: ok. [04:51] never mind [04:51] crimsun: but how come the screen got all vertical lines... well.. it's so smooth.. but we can barely see it [04:51] oh...forget.....the newest version of yank is from 2003-03-25 [04:51] :S [04:51] it looks like the development sttoped [04:51] crimsun: hold on horizontal i mean [04:52] crimsum: it's just occurred to me that i should have switched kernels anyway (i have an athlon). and the k7 has CONFIG_NET_RADIO=y. [04:53] crimsum: this is my first debian experience, so you'll have to excuse the lack of contextual knowledge. i never realized how much linux distros actually differed... [04:53] crimsun: i can't move my mouse or anything, how can i come back to the black screen to type up some queries? [04:53] anyone ever get their forward and back buttons to work in conjunction with the mouse wheel? [04:53] ctrl+alt+F# [04:53] ^ JoshuaSydney [04:53] kev__: no biggie [04:54] oh okok.. F#? [04:54] JoshuaSydney: function key [04:54] JoshuaSydney: F1, F2, F3, ... [04:54] oo F3 [04:54] hahaha.. i thought F# [04:54] JoshuaSydney: no, any < 7 === TongMaster [~TongMaste@150.203.247.9] has joined #ubuntu === Adross [~drew@168.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === mello [~mello@c-67-162-226-133.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === pilo [~pilo@c-24-15-239-127.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] oww [04:54] really? ic ic [04:54] would someone be as kind as to walk me through setting up dual monitors? [04:55] how do i add mp3 support to the default ubuntu media player? I installed the w32codecs, but nothing happened [04:55] preferably monitors that have two different resolutions? [04:55] Adross: you need gstreamer0.8-mad from universe. [04:55] cheers [04:55] Munich choose Debian :) http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,2000061733,39188667,00.htm [04:55] Adross: see wiki/RestrictedFormats === SkyNet [~John@h-83-140-128-28.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] thanks [04:55] and i'm out of her [04:55] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24774&goto=nextnewest crimsum: you must love those [04:55] try a google search people [04:56] i have man [04:56] and last time i tried it, X crashed [04:56] and it was irrecoverable for a noob like I [04:56] i am pretty much a n00b and i have an athalon 64 processor, would you suggest the 64 bit ubuntu distro or would i be better off getting more experience with the mainstream one? [04:56] <^thehatsrule^> heh [04:57] pilo: I'll trade you. You can have my Pentium 2/266, and I'll take your Athlon64. [04:57] lol [04:57] sounds fair 266 is a bigger number then 64 [04:57] lol [04:58] pilo: unless you need video, or openoffice, stay with 32 [04:58] it's possible to use beagle in ubuntu? someone using it? [04:58] pilo: if you need video, or openoffice, stay with 32 === simonp [~simonp@toronto-HSE-ppp4294425.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] well i do have a tv tuner that i want to play with [04:58] crimsun: how to come back to the GUI display again? [04:58] pilo: do you you know tvtime? === thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax7-177.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:59] s/you you/you/ [04:59] simonp: yes [04:59] pilo: I would suggest staying with 32 bit until you learn your way around linux [05:00] guys, any possibility to control mouse from keyboard in ubuntu? === magnon_ [~magnon@cD908888B.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu === joh [~joh@cD908888B.sdsl.catch.no] has joined #ubuntu [05:00] pilo: there are ways to deal with software that requires 32 bits inside of 64 bits, but it's easier to stay with 32 for now === metrix [~metrix@nts-219.7-185-64.nts-online.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:00] the system doesn't detect my mouse [05:00] both serials and ps/2 [05:01] ok ok, sounds like staying with 32 is a safer bet. does 64 offer quantifiable performance boost? [05:01] ie will i be missing much === magnon_ is now known as magnon [05:01] JoshuaSydney: alt+F7 [05:01] pilo: I run a 466 celeron right now, your ahead of me :) [05:01] pilo: Apparently it makes a big difference in audio/video encoding [05:02] crimsun, the system doesn't detect my mouse... i have serials and ps/2 on the same card.. how can i fix this? [05:02] crimsun: or can i move it from my keyboard? === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:02] crimsun: move the mouse i mean [05:02] ok ok i suppose its much better to have a working machine then a faster one ;) [05:03] thanks alot for the advice [05:03] JoshuaSydney: choose one. [05:03] frank: are you running 64? I'm budgeting for my office's new machine, can I use 64 against win32codecs? [05:03] JoshuaSydney: try the serial _or_ the ps/2 [05:03] Hi all, someone read my question before ( an hour ago ) about SATA hard disk ? [05:03] crimsun: can i open that blank screen inside GUI instead of closing GUI? === thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax7-177.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] nickrud: you can use w32codecs within a 32bit chroot in Ubuntu64 yeah [05:04] I started the network conection monitor for ethernet0 and have noticed a steady stream of packets being sent down eth0.. this worries me.. how do I see what program is sending packets to what ip? [05:04] chroot, chroot, everybody says chroot :) [05:04] nickrud, but you need to setup the chroot [05:04] debootstrap [05:05] not going there [05:05] yet [05:05] nickrud, That's what I do. [05:05] nickrud, but alot of things would be SO much easier if I had just stuck with 32bit [05:06] JoshuaSydney: I do not understand what you're asking. [05:06] frank, probably will, just kicking and screaming :) [05:06] crimsun: you know when u said ctrl alt F#... can i do this inside ubuntu GUI, instead of closing GUI and back to the black screen..? [05:07] JoshuaSydney: you're not closing anything; you're simply switching terminals. === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:07] ooo [05:07] okok [05:08] JoshuaSydney: to get back, alt-F7 === cheeeong [~cheeeong@cm192.omega175.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu [05:08] Sorry but this is funny: Have you tried "1920x1440" screen resolution on 17 inches monitor ?? -- me I am actually using this mode on my TTX 17'' crt monitor! uh... I think i still have very good vision :-) [05:09] bretzel: you're psycho [05:09] ASUS P4P800SE + IDE hdd + SATA hdd + Linux = fail. [05:10] crimsun: i don't know MANY if any 17" that would support that refresh rate [05:10] bretzel: I used 1920x1440 on a 19" for a long time. [05:10] bretzel: granted, I killed that monitor by doing that. === hyphenated [~cgilmour@nzns1.eservglobal.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu === Ex-Cyber [~excyber@cpe-024-211-182-083.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === Dreamer3_ uses 1280x1024 on a 19" lcd and loves it, though 1600x1200 on a slightly larger LCD would be heaver [05:10] heaven* [05:10] crimsun: Please choose your mouse port, nothing indicated serials / ps/2 ... /dev/psaux ttyS0 ttyS1 ttyS2 ttyS3 input/mice atibm sunmouse gpmdata .... which one? [05:11] SATA alone in RAID mode and RAIDBOOTROM + linux ( ubuntu hoary at least ) = SUCCESS but WinXP = failure! === fazer [~fazer@CPE0050f276c615-CM0012c90fe42a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] Hmmm, can anyone play this movie in their VLC player? : http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/computer-security/video/infectedcomputer.mov === thundrcleeze [~thundrcle@c68.115.22.89.jvl.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:12] crimsun: assuming memory is good after i reboot is there any type of memory logging i can run to try and figure out where the memory is going? [05:12] JoshuaSydney: try the ps/2 mouse === smouche [~bc@cpe-24-90-94-112.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === it4ngo [~redactech@210.245.72.13] has joined #ubuntu === TongMaestro [~TongMaste@150.203.247.9] has joined #ubuntu [05:12] ASUS P4P800SE + SATA in ide mode = unable to boot from this drive. but WinXP = success!!! this is a Shitload of puzzle that kills my brain! [05:12] Dreamer3_: there are some libc debugging variables, but nothing that would really do what you wanted offhand [05:12] crimsun: the problem is nothing indicated ps/2 choices [05:12] JoshuaSydney: psaux is. === mfinch [~mfinch@host-90-48-230-24.midco.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:13] crimsun: could i be the kernel? [05:13] crimsun: if i want to choose my serial mouse, which one would it be? [05:13] Dreamer3_: there's a slight (very slight) possibility, but the probability is quite slim. === MacPlusG3 [~stewart@150.203.247.9] has joined #ubuntu === trey [~trey@64.178.100.227.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:13] JoshuaSydney: depends on the serial port you're using [05:13] crimsun: so that means some userspace program? [05:13] hi everyone, i've got a question [05:14] JoshuaSydney: probably ttyS0 [05:14] trey: we might have an answer [05:14] hehe [05:14] oh ic ic yea i'll try [05:14] I have a question: does anyone know the default username and password to admin cups (http://localhost:631)? I have enabled root and that doesn't work. [05:14] Dreamer3_: again, I don't know. [05:14] Dreamer3_: you're not using inotify, are you? [05:14] crimsun: i don't know... stock hoary, how would i find out? [05:14] ive got a 700m laptop and i'm tryin to get the 1280x800 resolution to work === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] Dreamer3_: stock Hoary disables it. [05:14] and 1024 is the only one available [05:14] Dreamer3_, it's root/rootpassword [05:14] crimsun: i upgraded from warty... if that makes a diff [05:14] Dreamer3_: ok, next step: any binary-only drivers? [05:14] whatever the root password is === zbowling [~zbowling@adsl-68-95-145-79.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] anyone here use klik successfully?? === kyubito [~jc@219-88-160-125.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] fazer: I could play your movie in vlc [05:15] trey: add it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the Mode line of 24.... (near the bottem) and restart X [05:15] crimsun: nope, not on the lappy [05:15] frank: i get a weird error [05:16] frank: VLC would just quit. But when I launch VLC from the command line, it would then give me an error. [05:16] trey: my x flakes aout sometimes. I chose 640 x 480 once. I had to do a Ctl + Alt + backspace to restart X. Things got better. [05:16] but I canp lay all other quicktime files file in VLC === GhostFreeman [~ghostfree@64.193.76.99] has joined #ubuntu === Styx-LCA [~mark@203.201.97.26] has joined #ubuntu === NotANick [~crypto@cpe-024-168-170-185.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === farruinn [~nathan@cpe-69-201-0-56.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:16] Hi, anyone use a Prism2 based PCMCIA card here? [05:16] fazer: what does the error say? [05:16] hi can someone help me configure my screen resolution .. for sum reasons i can only use 640*480 .. [05:16] styx-lca: do you need support from hostap? [05:16] fazer: so only this one gives you a problem? strange.. [05:16] see i've got it in my modeline, but it still doesn't show up in my screen resolution settings [05:17] lunitik: hold on [05:17] after i restarted [05:17] after doing a netstat -pantu, I have one line other then xchat that I see connected to a socket: 192.168.0.10:33322 127.0.0.1:631 gnome-cups-icon. this should not show up as transmitted via eth0 should it??? === salvestrini [~icechat5@200.109.194.219] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] Dreamer3_: if memtest passes, try using a livecd for a few days. === bigx5murf [~bigx5murf@cpe-24-90-97-169.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] kev__: I think I just need the module prism2_cs [05:17] hello [05:17] lunitik: The program '.' received an X Window System error. [05:18] This probably reflects a bug in the program. [05:18] kev__: I have the prism2_usb module but not prism2_cs [05:18] i have a couple questions [05:18] crimsun: hehehe, i don't know how well that would work... i need httpd, imapd, etc :) [05:18] The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. === Gregory [~Gregory@d149-67-175-87.clv.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:18] is this the ubuntu help channel? [05:18] crimsun: but that would hope to prove what? [05:18] *sigh* I'm up at 5am to bake bread for my family. Am I a good "housewife", or what? [05:18] (Details: serial 73 error_code 11 request_code 141 minor_code 19) [05:18] Does anyone know the default username and password for CUPS web? It isn't root, I enabled and tried that. === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [05:18] fazer: how big is the file... and how much ram do you have? [05:18] Dreamer3_: it runs nearly completely in RAM and uses a different kernel config [05:18] about SATA drive with my crappy mb: I am stuck using Linux ubuntu only on this computer. I need WinXP for ... dvdshrink --> otherwize is there any equiv. prog for linux ? [05:18] mfinch: its usually the unix user accounts...root shoulda worked === jubei [~jubei@ppp139-170.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:19] bretzel: depends... what does dvdshrink do? [05:19] has anyone been able to mount ntfs partitions from a pci sata controller? [05:19] mfinch, as far as I can tell, the cups admin is simply disabled. [05:19] the web interface doesn't let you log in as root, IIRC [05:19] hi can someone help me configure my screen resolution .. for sum reasons i can only use 640*480 .. tried changing resolution but it only gives me an option of 640*480 [05:19] what does sata have to do w/ ntfs? [05:19] crimsun: could X leak memory? [05:20] styx-lca: ok. i'm battling with a prism2 card (dlink dwl-520 e1) and thought we could exchange ideas. sorry i can't help... [05:20] The gnome stuff has worked, although I'm not really happy about it. === n3 [~chatzilla@wtvw-ip-nas-1-p248.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] crimsun: maybe i could switch to a vesa driver or something? [05:20] Decrypt DVD movies, shrink it in iso image to fit in 4 GB DVD disk [05:20] i have 2 ntfs partitions on a hd thats connected thru a pci sata controller === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] or go back to DRI... [05:20] slappy11: it didn't. Other people reported this problem in support. I don't think I will loose any functionality. The most I ever do is delete the last print job if it gets stuck. I can do that with the gnome tools. [05:20] Dreamer3_: it'd probably be a client not cleaning up correctly. [05:20] i used mozplugger to see windows media + quicktime, but there is no sound, is this a problem wit mozplugger or is it a configuration problem? [05:20] crimsun: you mean an X program? [05:20] Dreamer3_: yes. Those are called clients. [05:21] anyone know why firefox doesnt act like it should? middle clikc in windows closed tabs...no it tries to take me to websites [05:21] crimsun: yeah, i was just making sure we were on the same page [05:21] salvestrini: you have w32codecs installed? [05:21] yes i do [05:21] Second question. How do I disable root? I already did a sudo passwd root so to enable it. There is no benefit to have it enabled so I would like it off again. [05:21] salvestrini: do you have libmad0 installed? because windows (and afaik quicktime) use mp3 for audio playback [05:21] NotANick, default configuration of firefox on both operating systems is open link in new tab [05:21] libmad0, i dont think so, i will install it [05:21] NotANick, you must ahve had middle-click bound to ctrl-w or similar in windows [05:21] w32codecs isn't in the marillat repo ? [05:21] salvestrini: did you install gstreamer0.8-mad at any point? [05:22] as usual sudo apt-get install libmad0 [05:22] bigx5murf: dmesg, does the sata drives show up? [05:22] yes [05:22] can anyone help me view ntfs partitions? [05:22] bretzel, it is, I believe [05:22] jannifer: nah everyone i know who runs windows says that if you middle click on the tab up top it'll close it [05:22] i did install that [05:22] i cant seem to mount mine [05:22] salvestrini: bah, then you installed it [05:22] mfinch: are you brave? [05:22] NotANick, does this for me on linux as well === abarbaccia [~abarbacci@69-162-2-72.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:22] if you middle-click on a URL it opens that url in a new tab [05:22] strange thing is, no sound comes out === dustoff [~chatzilla@61.68.111.136] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] crimsun: n/m can't do that [05:23] slappy11: Please what do you know about SATA drives ?? I have that brain sucking puzzle with mine ... [05:23] play dvds okay, cd audio too, but for some reason i get no sound for quicktime [05:23] crimsun: i don't have a boot entry for memtest... [05:23] NotANick: in about:config , look for middleclick.loadcontent.* (forget exactly), and change it to false I think [05:23] mfinch: edit /etc/passwd directly, and remove the x beween the first and second colons. [05:23] Dreamer3_: not even for memtest+ ? [05:23] crimsun: i installed a long side debian and setup all the boot stuff myself... === _mage_work [~mage@CPE-144-136-45-146.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:23] dmesg should show it as a sda something drive [05:23] also [05:23] fdisk -l /dev/sda to see if anything comes up or b,c,d [05:24] mfinch: for root, of course :) [05:24] crimsun: i suppose i could create one, if i knew what the relevant part of menu.conf was supposed to be === GhostFreeman [~ghostfree@64.193.76.72] has joined #ubuntu === slicslak [~slicslak@S0106000f66e13f97.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:24] also, there is a depricated module that shouldnt be used in 2.6 [05:24] hi can someone help me configure my screen resolution .. for sum reasons i can only use 640*480 .. tried changing resolution but it only gives me an option of 640*480 .... i just installed ubuntu [05:24] thoreauputic: thanks [05:24] kyubito: xresprobe [05:25] kyubito: just exactly which monitor are you using: model and number [05:25] bigx5murf its as simple as following the guidelines in http://www.ubuntuguide.org to mount ntfs partition [05:25] crimsun: i have the memtest+ binary in /boot i'm sure... could someone paste me the lines privately or paste website? [05:25] k thanks ill try it [05:25] nickrud: I just read something from ubuntu's web site "sudo passwd -l root". This will disable root. [05:25] mfinch: something new daily, and it is the truth. === eykd [~eykd@c-67-167-112-96.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:25] question:: \] [05:25] NotANick: middlemouse.contentLoadURL false [05:25] help.. [05:26] nickrud: thanks for the help though. Need to go to bed. Thanks. [05:26] mfinch, ant thanks, it is worth knowing about. [05:26] also there is a problem with my fam (i am on a laptop) [05:26] want to install ubuntu on P1 [05:26] having problems with resolution [05:26] using acer 3d monitor [05:26] Svga [05:26] inickrud: -l is covered in "man password" if you want to know more about it. [05:26] later. [05:26] Dreamer3_: are you using Ubuntu's grub, though? === jordanau [~jordan@cable-24-181-119-185.abr.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:26] fan works well under windows, under linux it doesn't activate [05:26] night [05:26] crimsun: no, debian sarge :) it's gonna be close :) [05:26] crimsun: it books ubuntu aok :) [05:27] Dreamer3_: there should be a # memtest86=true === Doomhammer [~Doomhamme@70.58.110.23] has joined #ubuntu [05:27] Can anyone help me to get mp3s burning in k3b? http://k3b.xcyb.org/. I follwoed this howto and I still cant burn mp3s in k3b http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21044&page=1&pp=10 [05:27] crimsun: i don't have grub installed in ubuntu [05:27] ? [05:27] crimsun: or you mean in debian's file? [05:27] Dreamer3_: http://pastebin.com/272626 [05:27] so i was wondering if there were the toshiba utilities for ubuntu as well [05:28] crimsun: thanks, that's exaclyt what i need [05:28] how does ubunu run on dell laptops/ [05:28] >\ [05:28] anyone know? [05:28] can anyone help with resolution problem [05:28] ? [05:28] should run fine, kernel 2.6.9 and up have dell laptop support [05:28] monitor cant handle rez [05:28] n3 maybe [05:28] for resolution, look in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file === FLeiXiuS [~Nick@pcp0011094024pcs.essex01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:29] n3, just what model is your laptop [05:29] What im really trying to do is get it working on old Pentium [05:29] ... now, I just installed ubuntu, got XMMS installed, transferred my MP3s [05:29] added them to my XMMS playlist [05:29] n3: how much ram do you have? [05:29] if install a kernel module source package (hostap-source) that gets a tar.bz2 dumped in /usr/src/, which then extracts to contain a debian subdirectory, whats the proper command to have the module built? ie, to make use of the debian/* files? [05:29] double click on one to play... and XMMS becomes unresponsive [05:29] n3, you might want to look at vector linux [05:29] Im more wanting to replace the old win 95 sys on the P1 [05:29] the P1 has 146 MB ram [05:29] aprox === jmn [~jmn@host249.201-252-74.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu === Anubis [~LordVader@224.207.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] say 128 max [05:30] Doomhammer: try setting the output plugin to esd [05:30] laptop has a lot more === mrc3 [~ddiaz@adsl-69-155-214-215.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] but not worried about laptop now [05:30] in XMMS's config, thoreauputic? [05:30] hi all! anyone with ubuntu PPC? [05:30] crimsun: hmmm, what's the "Boot" line do, not all my entries have that [05:30] Doomhammer: yup [05:30] n3, that old of a computer you might want to consider a server only install [05:30] mrc3: lots :) [05:30] mrc3 i had ubuntu ppc until my fbt faile [05:30] well [05:30] *failed [05:30] i want to run multimedia progs [05:30] videos [05:31] am currently using the pc to display videos in a shop === comfrey_ [~comfrey@208-151-246-153.dq1sn.easystreet.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:31] thoreauputic: YAY! it works -- thanks :) :) [05:31] for people to browse video files as a multimedia station [05:31] Doomhammer: :) [05:31] m3 with your videocard its going to be a problem [05:31] n3: on the P1? videos???? that's probably an exercise in futility [05:31] am running REALMEDIA, QUICKTIME and WMV files on WIN 95 [05:31] Slimview 500 is my monitor [05:31] They work [05:31] Every two days and 5hrs my desktop locks. And I have to reset the PC. Keyboard non responsive? [05:31] farruinn, salvestrini, i have problems with my ubuntu-ppc: my mouse cursor freezes momentarily (like 200-300 ms or so) and my system clock lags like 2 minutes behind after 5 hours of being set. would you know why? [05:31] the videos work [05:32] ok [05:32] most of the videos are low rez form the web anyhow [05:32] n3: oh ok. MPEG4 probbaly wuoldnt work [05:32] wmv files [05:32] crimsun: after the memtest would rebooting into the warty kernel hurt anything for a test? [05:32] hmmm sounds like a hardware issue more than a software problem to me [05:32] isnt wmv an mpg4 standard? [05:32] ha [05:33] salvestrini, it works fine with my linux from scratch, and never had a problem with ydl or mdk [05:33] is anything from windows a standard? [05:33] Dreamer3_: no. [05:33] LOL [05:33] crimsun: ok, that's what i'll try then :) [05:33] point taken [05:33] thoraupticu: no [05:33] L) [05:33] mmy mad mrc, ireally never ran into that problem with my installation [05:34] OK, I have a general question. === serge [~serge@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:34] what is the point of w32codecs? [05:34] why does everyone have such hard to type nicks? [05:34] I have a general answer... [05:34] mrc3: I've never heard of that either [05:34] mrc3: how much ram do you have? how fast is your harddisk? [05:34] brb [05:34] nickrud: they haven't discovered tab completion? [05:35] mine is easy, nickrud :) === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] Anubis: anything in the system log? === K_Dallas [~Korbain@66.11.181.10] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] hi can someone help me configure my screen resolution .. for sum reasons i can only use 640*480 .. tried changing resolution but it only gives me an option of 640*480 .... i just installed ubuntu ... my monitor is Slimview 500 [05:35] Doomhammer, yeah, thoureuputic, when I read it but . === bored2k [~bored2k@94samana87.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] kyubito: hoary? [05:35] anyone have luck getting dlink dwl-520 e1's working in hoary? [05:35] yup [05:35] hehehe] [05:35] Hoary is nice [05:35] farruinn, 384 MB in RAM. i have DMA set to 1 in hda. i'd guess my harddisk is fast, but wouldn't put my hand on fire for it === tim_h [~Tim@p54A1FC40.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:36] just upgraded from Warty today ... I like :) [05:36] tab complete: I must need something other than xchat [05:36] salvestrini, first report, then! :)O [05:36] kyubito: you cud try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' from command line [05:36] k ill try [05:36] thank [05:36] nickrud: xchat does tab complete [05:36] brb [05:36] kk [05:36] XChat is the best [05:36] http://radiolistin.com/stream.html [05:36] thoreauputic, so it does, doh [05:36] irssi ! === Ray|v|an-1010 [~raymanrey@dsl-200-78-27-79.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu === Ray|v|an-1010 [~raymanrey@dsl-200-78-27-79.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [05:36] hehehe irssi [05:37] kyubito: it's probalby a horizsync, vertrefresh thing, choose at least medium when you get to monitor config [05:37] i remember using that during a Gentoo install using the LiveCD ... :) [05:37] irssi is very useful [05:37] nice cli client [05:37] hehe, it's the first irc client i used, wouldnt use anything else [05:37] ok im back [05:37] dont like the gui thingies [05:37] I've been spending far too much time being respectful, when the damn program will do it for me :) [05:37] yes mrc3 first report :) [05:37] you use Lynx, then? [05:38] oh no === chazwurth [~cstuart@dsl093-000-171.det1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === serge [~serge@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:38] goldfish: you ubergeek, you :) === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:38] no cli browser? n00b LOL [05:38] just dont like gui irc clients [05:38] ah :) [05:38] Hello, anyone know why a bunch of my devices (especially USB) are showing up under /.dev/ instead of /dev? === bretzel [~bretzel@modemcable128.237-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] let me reboot into ubuntu so i can apply any config changes for the toshiba utilities === PacoBCN [~PacoBCN@62-15-249-174.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu === MistaED [HydraIRC@203-173-55-159.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] brb in a few [05:39] eykd: no idea... is /.dev listed in your /etc/fstab? === K_Dallas [~Korbain@66.11.181.10] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === root_ [~root@sdn-ap-010tnnashP0452.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] GnomeBaker is great but has some weird issues :S [05:39] Doomhammer: No, it's not. === ReX_ [~mario@200.54.6.146] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] PacoBCN, agreed [05:39] eykd: is any /dev filesystem listed? [05:40] hey am i the only one who can't install quake 3 or any other ID game/patch/etc.? [05:40] This started with Warty, and I've since upgraded to Hoary. [05:40] /.dev/ is used for installation/upgrade afaik === thr1ce [~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [05:40] crimsun: just for reference... dropped to init1 (single used mode) and 276MB of real memory in use with only 4 processes (login, bash, etc)... i'm rebooting now to run memtest [05:40] ok; ubuntu is rollin :) [05:40] jordanau, somehow, it's the only software I can burn cds on the fly [05:40] Yes, I have both /dev/ and /.dev/ === root_ is now known as Dreamer3 [05:40] lets see if I do ... [05:40] now, do I manually add my windows partitions to /etc/fstab ? [05:40] jordanau, but it always complains about /dev/cdrom0 not mounted [05:40] eeks, i'm running irssi as root, shame on me [05:40] jordanau, happens to you too? [05:40] i have two x86 machines which refuse to install, but my amd64 system had no problems, all running hoary 5.04 [05:40] Brent: brb [05:40] I have both as well [05:40] PacoBCN, I can't stand how long it takes to decompress mp3 to wav === DoppelGanger [~LordAngel@pool-141-153-228-145.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:40] farruinn: Does /.dev/ usually stick around after install/upgrade? === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] yes [05:41] PacoBCN, and in Warty it would lock up constanly [05:41] eykd: yeah, but I'm not sure how it's used [05:41] eykd: apparently it does, it did for me ... :S [05:41] jordanau, oh, never tried that, sure it takes more than from command line? === K_Dallas [~Korbain@66.11.181.10] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] PacoBCN, I know that it is slower than my XP machine used to do it 15+ min [05:42] i did a chmod +x on the quake 3 demo, and now the installer complains about unknown mime-type -r, -n, Verify, archive, integrity, etc. [05:42] hmmm [05:42] PacoBCN, maybe even 20 [05:42] Doomhammer, farruinn: Hmm-- has it caused any trouble with usb devices for you? [05:42] i've looked around the net, and there's no solutions o__O [05:42] eykd: I haven't really tried to use any USB devices... [05:42] jordanau: linux audio programs do more thorough error checks [05:42] jordanau, you might probably want to do it once in command line to find out if it's gnomebaker or the tool itself it uses to decompress [05:42] hi guys! any descriptive link to help with installing USR 5610 faxmodems under ubuntu? (got USR rpm driver package but doesnt seem to work, used alien on it) thanks [05:42] MistaED: no solutions for? === kaesehummer [~nick@132-251.115-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] eykd, Doomhammer: same here [05:42] thoreauputic, thanks [05:43] haven't tried [05:43] jordanau, anyway, it's weird, but it burns DVDs in my laptop really quick, quicker than in XP [05:43] to the quake 3 demo installer problems [05:43] PacoBCN, i will doesn't mpeg123 or something do that [05:43] Doomhammer, farruinn: Ah. I guess I can just symlink it over, just I thought it was odd. [05:43] jordanau, I think so. Can't check right now since it's recording ;) [05:43] PacoBCN, the actually burning is 3 times as fast as my windows machine, i cant complain there === fazer [~fazer@CPE0050f276c615-CM0012c90fe42a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === salvestrini [~me@200.109.194.219] has joined #ubuntu === Levande1 [~levander@user-11219bu.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:44] hello im back from my ubuntu installation [05:44] salvestrini, how did it go? [05:44] all good so far? [05:44] eykd: you shouldn't have to do that, it may be a bug in the upgrade [05:44] fan works properly it fired up [05:44] salvestrini, welcome, then === Styx-LCA is now known as Styx-NearlyLCA [05:44] perfectly [05:44] eykd: you should report it to the mailing list and report a bug if necessary [05:44] the installation is always perfect [05:44] fan worked as it is supposed to [05:44] i've seen others with the same problem on linuxquestions.org, but all have no replies oddly [05:44] ok; any idea as to how I can add my windows NTFS partitions to be mounted ? [05:44] what fan, salvestrini? case fan, hsf? === mrc3 [~ddiaz@adsl-69-155-214-215.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu ["gone!"] [05:44] or where I should look to do this ? === rbrtj [robert@rbrt.info] has joined #ubuntu [05:44] Anybody have a good link to article on how to back-up stuff in Warty? Most specifically interested in dovecot and mysql [05:45] thr1ce: do you know which partition number? [05:45] thr1ce: www.ubuntuguide.org [05:45] thrlce: you need to add them to your /etc/fstab... it should be commented on syntax [05:45] probably just need a file list or something [05:45] laptop fan, using toshiba satellite m35-s320 === jose4030 [jose4030@67.110.213.141.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:45] is there any dependencies for the ID installers or something? [05:45] farruinn, well, I think they got changed, so no [05:45] i tried adding them in /etc/fstab [05:45] thrlce: after that, you should just be able to "mount /dev/partition /mnt/windows" [05:45] i still have a little problem === stas [~stas@dyn-135-48.tor.dsl.tht.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:45] farruinn: Well, I've had it since my original Warty install, so I don't have any evidence it's a bug with Hoary. [05:45] Levande1, i think there are some good general lonux backup howtos on tldp [05:45] salvestrini: can you mount them? what error does it give? [05:45] and just add a umask to it ? [05:45] eykd: oooh, I thought it was an upgrade issue [05:45] and make sure its' ro [05:45] salvestrini, who doesn't === abarbaccia [~abarbacci@69-162-2-72.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:45] ok; dumb question; can I not su in ubuntu ? [05:46] no [05:46] thr1ce: sudo [05:46] no su ?! [05:46] :( [05:46] you can set it up so that you can by using the command "sudo passwd root" [05:46] emm === chazwurth [~cstuart@dsl093-000-171.det1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:46] jordanau: yeah, i'll check those out, see what they say, thanks [05:46] thr1ce, sudo -s [05:46] thr1ce, there is no root account anyway :) [05:46] no errors, last time i booted ubuntu the fan didnt turn on for a long tme [05:46] ok...hehe [05:46] salvestrini, what fan === tim_h__ [~Tim@p54A1EE55.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:46] K_Dallas: yes there is [05:46] thrlce: use that command I typed up there to "create" a root account [05:46] it has no password, but it does exist [05:47] Agrajag, if you define it [05:47] i have a laptop, it only has one fan [05:47] or activate it [05:47] thus the quoted "create" ;) === jose4030 [jose4030@67.110.213.141.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:47] K_Dallas: if an account is in /etc/passwd, it exists. [05:47] ok [05:47] root is in /etc/passwd, it just has no defined password [05:47] i honestly dont know where is that connected [05:47] salvestrini, and? [05:47] now could you help me with my modem installation? ;) [05:47] Has anybody seen the ubuntu wiki page on mail formats? It says something about not being able to see mail being delivered by postfix in dovecot by default. But, I thought that's exactly what I was doing. Here's the page: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MailStorageStandardisation [05:47] dammit, I just wish I could start powernowd [05:47] Agrajag: aren't some accounts that exist not in /etc/passwd? like the user "apache", for example? === ritalin [~ritalin@12-220-139-216.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] Can you deactivate root once you learn your way around sudo? [05:48] what do you mean? === smo [~soneil@smo.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] of course apache exists as an account [05:48] Doomhammer: it's not apache, it's www-data and it's in /etc/passwd, check if you like [05:48] any descriptive link to help with installing USR 5610 faxmodems under ubuntu? (got USR rpm driver package but doesnt seem to work, used alien on it) thanks [05:48] well last time i booted the fan wouldnt work, booted to win os and worked as suppoesed to [05:48] Scuddie: sudo passwd -l root [05:48] any easy way to see where my windows is ? [05:48] now fan fired up just under two mins ago === chaotic_linux [~Chaos@69-27.201-68.swfla.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] Levandel: hrm... It's "apache" on Gentoo... guess I just have to get used to Ubuntu ;) [05:48] ill monitor it as time goes by [05:48] thr1ce, try fdisk on your /dev/hda /dev/hdb etc [05:48] i can't find it in dmesg [05:49] Great, 4.7 DVD burn time: 07:53 [05:49] salvestrini, so maybe linux is using the fan when it's needed, and off when not [05:49] is there a dowloading softwear like imesh for warty warthog [05:49] thr1ce: see where your windows is? what does that mean? [05:49] windows partition maybe? === waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] Levande1, which /dev/hdXX it is assigned [05:49] anyone know where i can get a recent .deb for fluxbox? === nj [~nathanj@sweep.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] maybe im being paranoid about the damn fan [05:49] the one in apt is old [05:49] hi is there a command i can type in the terminal to see what kind fo video card i have? [05:49] anyway [05:49] is there a dowloading softwear like imesh for warty warthog [05:49] Levande1, you mean you're using imap for accessing your mail [05:50] thats not important [05:50] is there a dowloading softwear like imesh for warty warthog [05:50] is there a dowloading softwear like imesh for warty warthog [05:50] nickrud: yeah, using dovecot as an imap server [05:50] chaotic_linux: stop spamming [05:50] please don't do that [05:50] what is important [05:50] chaotic_linux: look for "gift" [05:50] srry [05:50] is that mplayerplug-in freezes [05:50] nickrud: just don't know what that page means, "can't export mail from postfix to dovecot by default", that's exactly what I'm doing === shane_ [~shane@c211-30-45-217.mirnd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] can I use Winamp 5 themes with XMMS? === jc [~jc@219-88-160-125.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] chaotic_linux: there is a client for directconnect and edonkey [05:51] is there a command i can type in the terminal to see what kind fo video card i have? [05:51] Doomhammer: no === dle [~dle@HSE-Kitchener-ppp230092.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:51] wasabi, lspci, search for it [05:51] darn... can't use my MMD3... [05:51] Doomhammer: doubt it [05:51] i'll just have to find a suitable XMMS theme then ;( [05:51] Doomhammer: winamp 2 only, as far as I know [05:51] Levande1, wait one, need to look at my configs for a sec [05:51] Hi. Does anyone know of a deb for mplayerplug-in? [05:51] anyone? [05:51] ok; I found 1 of them [05:51] can't find the other [05:51] Doomhammer: maybe have a look into beep player it may accept winamp5 skins [05:51] Doomhammer: what type of music do you lisen to? === charles [~fiendofmi@pcp03946321pcs.indstr01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:51] hey [05:51] Doomhammer, i am not sure but search sf.net i think i read somethign there recently on using winamp themes on a player for linux [05:51] nickrud: yeah, i'll wait, don't know what your checking, but i'll wait, let me know [05:51] im having aproblem [05:52] dle, just look for the deb in synaptic [05:52] no way to search where my ntfs partition is mounted to ? [05:52] fazer: i listen to prog rock, metal, punk rock, stuff like that [05:52] Doomhammer, http://tinyurl.com/8uym3 [05:52] Doomhammer: ah, I am listening to Tool right now =/ [05:52] i forgot the commands to compress files [05:52] what XMMS themes do you guys use? [05:52] thr1ce: type "mount", it will list all mounted partitions [05:52] can someone help me out on setting up my screen resolution ... im using hoarty .. n i my monitor is Slimview 500 .. [05:52] so what i did was uninstall mplayerplug-in and install mozplugger [05:52] dle: mozilla-mplayer [05:52] charles, compress used to be fine under unix :) [05:52] jc: look in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 [05:52] charles: gzip, bzip2, tar... [05:52] Next question: printing through cups. I set up a printer through gnome-cups-manager, then print a test page. The job goes through and disappears, but the printer never does anything. [05:52] then [05:52] mozplugger works but there is no sound [05:52] charles: "tar cf" [05:52] i bring up the terminal but i forgot [05:52] what do i do after that [05:53] thx every one [05:53] Levande1, the only changes I made to /etc/posfix/main.cf to get imap working were: [05:53] eykd: be surprised if you get answer here with those symptons, gonna need to dig more [05:53] there should be a "Screen" section, listing your resolution modes [05:53] thoreauputic: thanks! [05:53] Levande1: Any suggestions where to start? [05:53] change those, and then restart X Windows (or just restart the whole computer), and you should be good to go :) === schbond [~schbond@ip68-96-64-162.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:53] eykd: no, sorry, never used cups [05:53] i have an nvidia geforce 2 video card, is there any reason why descent 3 isnt working on my system? [05:53] mailbox_command = /usr/bin/procmail -a "$EXTENSION" home_mailbox=Maildir/ [05:54] eykd: maybe somebody else has good link to cups faqs / docs? [05:54] any 1 know how to use dev c++, python, or qbasic? [05:54] i installed it correctly, but the main screen always pixelizes and freezes [05:54] k thanks .. will try [05:54] thoreauputic: apt-cache search doesn't return anything on that term. What rep. is it in, do you know? [05:54] are there other bittorent clients for linux as good as azureus featurewise but less heavy on resources? [05:54] Levande1, this worked with both courier and dovecot [05:54] nickrud: what does that addition do? [05:54] Any help with installing USR 5610 faxmodems under ubuntu? (got USR rpm driver package but doesnt seem to work, used alien on it) thanks [05:54] dle: multiverse [05:54] http://www.geocities.com/tipsforlinux/articles/5.html -- that looks promising on Winamp Skins for XMMS... :) [05:54] frank try azureus, it's a good bittorrent client [05:54] I receive mail all the time with dovecot, is it somehow not using postfix internally?? [05:54] First, it tells postfix to deliver mail using the program postfix. [05:54] thoreauputic: Ah, that explains it. === Dreamer3 [~josh@sdn-ap-010tnnashP0452.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu === flan [~flan@res-68-119-196-182.cam.sc.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === charles [~fiendofmi@pcp03946321pcs.indstr01.fl.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:55] salvestrini, you skipped some words.... ;-) [05:55] How can I get GTK-Gnutella? [05:55] nickrud: but i'm getting my mail via dovecot without that line [05:55] I am getting error: "bad number of buttons, must have 5 instead of 7" when I try to run "xmodmap -e 'pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5'" [05:55] second, it tells postfix that it's delivering mail to a maildir type mail store in your home directory. [05:55] crimsun: i got thru 3 tests aok... i don't have time to do that now obviously... i booted into 2.6.8.1... we'll see how it goes === jair_11 [~handy@adsl-67-36-179-108.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:55] i need help to install gIFT [05:55] First, it tells postfix to deliver mail using the program procmail :) [05:55] running Ubuntu 5.04, xorg 6.8.2, Logitech MX500 (USB)... [05:55] sorry frank my keyboard behaves a little funny [05:56] I have tried apt-get install gtk-gnutella and it won't work [05:56] hello guys [05:56] I'm suprised there hasn't been one package update since Hoary was released [05:56] I am new to ubuntu [05:56] i found a replacement for DVDshrink called ldvd - it is ported to everything source is available [05:56] Levande1, so what's the problem? [05:56] first time I will be installing it today [05:56] I have been noticing that is base on debian correct? [05:56] nickrud: just thought that page was wierd, i'm getting mail fine, but that page seems to be saying that I shouldn't be [05:56] salvestrini, no I meant that I knew about azureus "...bittorent clients for linux as good as azureus featurewise but less heavy on resources" [05:56] nickrud: was wondering if something was going on i didn't know about === Dreamer3 yawns. === jonathaN_ [jonathan@4-16-ftth.onsnet.nu] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] i need help to install gIFT [05:57] o sorry about that frank [05:57] ubuntu can be use for server "enterprise" edition and for "client"? === feroz [~feroz@201.7.15.187] has joined #ubuntu [05:57] flan: it's in universe [05:57] nickrud: why would mail have to be "delivered"? [05:57] i havent seen any other bittorrent for linux that comes close to azureus [05:57] I have the version 5.04 in my hands ready to install it. [05:57] azureus is the best imo [05:57] salvestrini, there is azeureus for linux [05:57] please I need some answers [05:57] i need help to install gIFT === \sh [~sh@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #ubuntu [05:58] jair_11: what's your question? [05:58] couple of questions, is there a way to enable 3d acceleration for an iMac running Hoary? === salvestrini has it installed [05:58] Doomhammer, how are you? [05:58] jair_11: I don't know what you mean by enterprise and client, but yeah Ubuntu is based on debian === raghu [~raghu@203.145.183.210] has joined #ubuntu [05:58] Doomhammer, ok [05:58] <\sh> morning all [05:58] jair_11: pretty good ... do I know you? === feroz [~feroz@201.7.15.187] has left #ubuntu [] [05:58] nickrud: pretty sure I just get it directly from dovecot to my mail client, don't know why it would have to be "delivered" [05:58] it is base how much porcent? [05:58] salvestrini: what's the video card? [05:58] i need help to install gIFT [05:58] Levande1, that page may simply be out of date, as am i [05:58] ati 128 rage pro === raghu [~raghu@203.145.183.210] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:58] enterprise has a server remote deployment and marketing "buzz" - grin [05:59] Doomhammer, how much porcent of debian is ubuntu made off and what version sarge woody or sid? [05:59] jair_11: afaik all the packages in debian are in ubuntu [05:59] and then some [05:59] Doomhammer, ohhh ok [05:59] salvestrini: I think the default driver is ati, I think you can change that to r128 [05:59] nickrud: yeah, i hate that, [05:59] anyone thumb buttons working for MX500 under xorg 6.8.2? [05:59] okay, thanks nickrud! [05:59] Levande1, if you have Maildir in your home directory, and mail is getting there, you have no problem [05:59] and what about the situation I was having of not root password? [05:59] jair_11: not sure, AFAIK Ubuntu just uses the APT package manager and uses Debian packages [05:59] the first version i saw did not let you configure a root password? === ritalin [~ritalin@12-220-139-216.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:59] nickrud: the mail file is in /var/spool/mail or something like that I think [05:59] farruinn whenever i did that xorg would kick me out === dle [~dle@HSE-Kitchener-ppp230092.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu ["thanks] [05:59] ohh [05:59] jair_11: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [05:59] ok [05:59] jair_11: that can be fixed by doing "sudo passwd root" -- you can also just use "sudo" for all root tasks [06:00] salvestrini: oh weird [06:00] ohhh ok [06:00] but then perfect [06:00] i need help to install gIFT [06:00] Ubuntu is pretty good [06:00] Levande1, that's where mail ends up if dovecot doesn't handle it [06:00] I was reading something about enterprise version? [06:00] it's a nice mix between user friendly and power user :) [06:00] nickrud: actually, i think inbox is there, all the other folders look like there in ~/mail [06:00] Ubuntu just plain does everything with out too much effort. - Installed it and customised it to my liking in just a few hours. - :) [06:00] jair_11: maybe you mean the support you can buy from canonical? [06:00] can anyone help? [06:00] nickrud: I assume my mail client downloads them there [06:00] does anyone know a good gmail checker for gnome? [06:00] Doomhammer, I was reading a lot about it and the nicest thing is that is based on Debian [06:00] heh keys are sticky [06:01] chaotic_linux, it is on synaptic... [06:01] hm; how alsaconf is not found; how can I setup alsa on ubuntu ? [06:01] hmmm [06:01] thx [06:01] nickrud: but, when i access dovecot from a remote machine, i can still view the mail in those folders in my home directory [06:01] and the fan hasn't gone on since ubuntu started up [06:01] anyone have a good alsa guide ? I'm lost without my alsaconf! [06:01] jair_11: yes, debian is a good OS ... I haven't used it extensively, but Ubuntu is great :) [06:01] dantheman, yeah i think there is one avaiable already [06:01] Doomhammer, but at the installation process you get the root prompt password creation? [06:01] salve - wow same here i hadn't noticed it until you said that [06:01] thrlce: have you tried "apt-get install alsaconf"? [06:01] nickrud: but I see what you're saying about ending up there if not delivered, maybe it's along those lines that that wiki page is talking about [06:01] cool [06:02] dantheman, just right click > add to panel > and find the email notifier [06:02] Levande1, then I guess you really have no problems, since it *just works* [06:02] jair_11: no, you'll have to set the root password after install -- or just use SUDO [06:02] any way i can get the toshiba utilities? [06:02] lol - windows is piggish [06:02] dantheman, i am in xfce and cant check it right now [06:02] Doomhammer: there's no alsaconf in Ubuntu [06:02] Doomhammer, ohh ok [06:02] nickrud: yeah, just trying to learn more about the mail system cause I have to back it up tomorrow [06:02] alright, i'll look === thr1ce [~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [06:02] yes, there is no alsaconf [06:02] salvestrini: I've got an ati rage 128 in my B&W g3 and the r128 driver works with it (not sure I'm getting any hardware acceleration though) [06:02] nickrud: wanna make sure I get all the right files [06:03] how come the Linux firefox has Edit > Preferences, but the windows version has Tools > Options? [06:03] no place to setup alsa ? [06:03] ty farruinn [06:03] Doomhammer: ask the firefox guys [06:03] Doomhammer: are they both the same version of firefox? === k-otik [~mike@dpc67142105197.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:03] Levande1, ok most important is where your mail is. Is it in ~/Maildir === scorpix_ [~scorpix@as8-201.qualitynet.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:03] nickrud: no, in two places 1.) ~/mail, and the other /var/spool/mail [06:03] farruinn, but I was reading on the ubuntu web site, that is something about enterprise? === dr_willis [~willis@12-202-192-44.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:04] nickrud: i think /var/spool/mail is my Inbox [06:04] nickrud: but some things i've deleted and removed from the trash are still in that spool file [06:04] jair_11: canonical sell support, I believe [06:04] did anyone else hear about the ability to make gmail into a shell to store things? [06:04] or was that just me? [06:04] can noone help me? :( [06:04] Levande1, ok, I'm backing off, we need a mail expert :) [06:05] hmm but when they are talking about the "enterprise edition" they mean the same cd and os of ubuntu in this case the version 5.04? [06:05] k-otik, not a shell account from what i hear. some sort of 'storeing attachments' [06:05] k-otik: there's a thing called gmail file system or something like that [06:05] can you store anything you want? [06:05] why is there no search box on the ubuntulinux.org pages now? [06:05] Legendre, but from what you've said, backing up /var/spool/mail and any users' ~/mail will be a beginning. [06:05] nickrud: okay, thanks for the help === HillTop [~chatzilla@cpe-66-91-252-59.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:06] anyhow im at my laptop now [06:06] does anyone use alsa ? [06:06] farruinn: top right, click "search" [06:06] and there are a number of thinga i'd like to work with [06:06] namely [06:06] nickrud: at least now i better understand the questions i'm asking! [06:06] thr1ce, alsa is the standard sound system now a days :P so that would be yes fo rmost of us. [06:06] nickrud: am poking around some now [06:06] thr1ce, everyone does, it's just that not many people understand it. [06:06] how can I configure it ? i'm used to alsaconf === waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] it is anyway of use ubuntu as a kubuntu? [06:07] farruinn, there is a search on the web page...top right corner click on "search" [06:07] when I try to use it, it says that it is not configured properly [06:07] Levande1, read /etc/postfix/main.cf [06:07] if I like the kde instead the gnome ? === robzulah [~led@dialup-4.242.195.254.Dial1.Seattle1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] nickrud: good idea, i'm checking it [06:07] jair_11: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [06:07] 15% CPU usage - this thing would be near 60-80% using the redmond os - impressed. [06:07] robitaille: I see that clearly, however that is more time consuming [06:07] Can anyone help me with a problem installing KDE? [06:07] nickrud, are you running the email server post fix? [06:07] 1) toshiba utilities, 2) sound in mozillaplugger and 3) weird keyboard problem [06:07] Michelle Branch is... meh [06:07] jair_11, not by choice :) [06:07] nickrud, any idea how to even set it up ? [06:08] thoreauputic, so I can download the ubuntu normally then just install the desktop manager? [06:08] dr_willis, or you, how to initially set up alsa to find my sound card ? [06:08] nickrud, what do you mean? [06:08] jair_11: or you could use the kubuntu cd === hksdu [~chatzilla@CPE000625de9d0e-CM400035832997.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === davix [~lama@85-65-147-205.barak.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] jair_11: if you want kde only, install kubuntu, else use the command I gave you to install kde [06:08] jair_11: if that's not possible do a "server" install of ubuntu then install kubuntu-desktop [06:08] jair_11, I'm just venting, postfix is fine, it's just not what I'm used to [06:09] does kubuntu come on the same CD as GNOME Ubuntu? [06:09] ohhh ok [06:09] robzulah: no, it wouldn't fit [06:09] ohh [06:09] dang [06:09] that is good to know [06:09] thr1ce, it saw mine.. are you sure your volume settings are not just set to zero or muted? [06:09] thoreauputic, that is good to know [06:09] It's nice i tried it. - Ubuntu is nicer :) [06:09] then I think i will have to wait [06:10] dr_willis, yes; when I try to play sound from alsa, it complains that it is not configured properly [06:10] when I try to install through synaptic it wont install some of the files, it says like Depends: *filename* but will not be installed. [06:10] I want to use the kde instead the gnome [06:10] robzulah: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto [06:10] jair_11, check out #kubuntu [06:10] hi, one quick question, what's the name of the nice lite desktop manager? FIce or something like that? [06:10] thr1ce, what snd card do you have? [06:10] jair_11, you can always install kubuntu packages on a ubuntu install. trivially easy :P [06:10] The repository is added I think, I see KDE in the list on Synaptic [06:10] hksdu, xfce perhaps. [06:11] er, sorry, I meant that for robzulah [06:11] jair_11: get kubuntu then, www.kubuntu.org [06:11] Sophistication, ok; fixed it (wrong channel)\ [06:11] o yeah one thing i'd like to get wpa support for my wireless adapter, how do i get about doing that? [06:11] but now, I can't hear anything [06:11] and i know it's nto muted [06:11] dr_willis: thanks, because I will not have enough space to run Gnome and KDE [06:11] thr1ce, is this a audigy snd card? [06:11] Sophistication, yes, it uses snd [06:11] perfect guys thanks [06:12] thr1ce, Item: Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack see if thats on if not hit m on it in alsamixer [06:12] and the ac97 is modprobed [06:12] I have a sound blaster AUdigy2 - the mixer entries have a lot of sliders. and if you enable the digital out by mistake you may get no sound. === WillySilly [~will@c-67-164-115-131.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === jair_11 [~handy@adsl-67-36-179-108.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === sukmi [~s_megawat@stat.its.ac.id] has joined #ubuntu === duken [rose@volunteer.olami.net.id] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] Sophistication, everything is unmuted in alsamixer [06:16] Sophistication, when I select default in xmms, it says that it's busy; it will only "play" when it's on "hw:0,2" [06:16] Sophistication, on 0,0 and 0,1, it claims to be busy === turkey_joe [~me@stjhnf0112w-142162200158.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:16] thr1ce, in xmms use alsa instead of oss [06:16] Sophistication, that's what i'm screwing with [06:17] for some odd reason xmms in ubuntu uses oss by default instead of alsa.. [06:17] Sophistication, I did change it, and am using hw:0,2 [06:17] it's playing, but no sound [06:17] and everything is unmuted === nullaresnata [~henriquem@cb-217-129-175-184.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu [06:18] thr1ce, once again what sound card do you have is this a onboard snd card, Or is it a pci snd card, Also what brand is this snd card === krischan [~krischan@p54B85D51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:18] Realtek ALC650E [06:18] this is on your mb I take it then [06:19] yes [06:19] 2 things I can think of off hand I would check out [06:19] ok\ === TongMaster [~TongMaste@150.203.247.9] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] 1st is even though your using a 2.6 kernel that supports pnp so it says make sure pnp aware os is off in the bios, as this can cause funky irq driving issues & cause hardware to not fuction === ryman [~ryman@adsl-68-126-149-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === evan_ [~evan@vt-williston-cuda1k4-36.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] 2nd you may need to find another driver & install. [06:20] yes, standard 2.6.10 === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-67-49-107-13.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] === LeeJunFan [junfan@64-186-37-120.skycon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] Sophistication, hm...another alsa driver ? === andrewski [~andrewski@pool-151-197-228-28.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] how can I enable cups http admin funcitons w/o GNOME? === Dreamer3_ [~josh@sdn-ap-009tnnashP0446.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] how do I receive faxes? [06:21] Sophistication, well, it's a fresh install === BaSsPlAyEr [~steve@adsl-65-42-240-90.dsl.lgnnmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === evan_ [~evan@vt-williston-cuda1k4-36.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] hey guys [06:22] hey bass [06:22] thr1ce, so how was slackware for you? [06:22] i have a problem......... [06:22] Sophistication, i setup with alsaconf, and it worked fine initially [06:22] we all do [06:22] ok === Vorik [~Vorik@apeldoorn.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:23] how exactly do u instal a program from a cd?? it wont work for some reason [06:23] how are you going about it? [06:23] thr1ce, do you have this same issue in slackware? === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.134.11] has joined #ubuntu [06:23] Sophistication, no === mitch_ [~mitch@72.2.212.78] has joined #ubuntu [06:24] http://freshmeat.net/projects/hcfpcimodem/ [06:24] whats the default root pass? [06:24] ok; and I can't find guifications === waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:25] mitch_: there isn't one - use sudo with your user pass [06:25] k [06:25] what is the difference between the default install and the "server" install, besides now x windows on the server install? [06:25] mitch_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [06:26] ugh...this sucks [06:26] thr1ce, what sucks? [06:26] evan_, i can't get alsa to work [06:27] evan_, in xmms, I try running alsa on hw:0,2, and it plays, but no sound; it's unmuted and everything [06:27] Doomhammer: the server install is "expert" and expects you to know what you want and how to get it (in simple terms) [06:28] thr1ce: tried using esd as output in xmms? [06:28] thr1ce, odd === salvestrini [~me@200.109.194.219] has joined #ubuntu === beowu1f [~beowulf@201.133.178.155] has joined #ubuntu [06:28] hello [06:28] thr1ce, is it possible you have more than one sound card? [06:29] evan_, nope; well, esound works alright [06:29] just bothers me I guess [06:29] hmmm, fan has not worked since i started up the computer under linux === JoshuaSydney [~joshua@dsl-206.50.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === BL4NK [blank@ppp-69-228-132-67.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:30] crimsun: how can you check what mouse port does my computer have..? [06:30] thr1ce: esound is still using alsa - it's just a sound daemon [06:30] ooh, ok [06:30] alright, neat; this will work [06:31] and can I setup fglrx for 3d accel, or must I compile from source ? === dhirsch [~dhirsch@12-210-220-6.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:31] guys, how can you check what mouse port does the computer have in ubuntu? [06:31] see the BinaryDrivers wiki page [06:31] what do you type in? [06:31] thr1ce, it can work - if you are lucky [06:31] :( [06:31] . [06:31] mmmm hoary is shiny :) [06:31] .. [06:31] JoshuaSydney, Hmm.. check to see where the mouse is plugged in at? [06:31] i did [06:32] i plugged in into serial mouse [06:32] thr1ce: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto [06:32] shouldnt it be /dev/mouse? [06:32] as the PS/2 doesn't work [06:32] serial - UGH :P they still malke those? [06:32] well... its an old computer [06:32] can I just use xorg-driver-fglrx ? [06:32] unfortunately... [06:33] is there any device listing... such as lspci -v for listing PCI devices... [06:33] in ubuntu [06:33] lspci works actually [06:33] JoshuaSydney: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3839.html [06:33] JoshuaSydney: about using a serial nouse [06:33] opening... [06:33] salvestrini, usually /dev/input/mice these days [06:33] *mouse [06:33] ty jannifer === SQL_Sam [~matt@63-230-211-128.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:34] anyone know how to configure Evolution with gmail ? [06:34] anyone please help me with my issues? === nickrud [~nickrud@ppp-69-239-114-239.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:34] ryman, not sure that it can [06:34] Hey everyone - First time newb just installed Ubuntu - it is sweet!! [06:35] ryman, oh yes, if you use pop [06:35] gmail supports pop [06:35] SQL_Sam: yeah, its pretty nice. [06:35] thank you thoreauputic, i'm trying it now [06:35] JoshuaSydney: if this is hoary, use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instead [06:35] ryman, http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103 [06:35] http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287 [06:35] ryman: if it supports imap I'd go with that [06:35] i do have a question (think i know the answer) some things are really slow, do i basically need more ram? [06:36] it supports imap4 and imap4rev1 [06:36] SQL_Sam: be more specific? [06:36] SQL_Sam: how much RAM do you have? [06:36] SQL_Sam: What things are slow? [06:36] im using warth [06:36] firefox, and basically opening anything graphical [06:36] farruinn| i dont think it support imap [06:36] SQL_Sam: Hmm...and how much ram do you have? [06:36] do you know any free email that I can use with evolution ? [06:37] i also have a question, my laptop's fan has not worked since i turned on the machine and im worried that the heat may affect my computer how can i check that thermal info is working properly? [06:37] JoshuaSydney: on warty just follow what the howto says, then === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-67-49-107-13.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] ryman, log into gmail then goto the help options they have a guide for ev via pop [06:37] salvestrini: is your laptop plugged into the AC daptor? [06:37] dont even know to be honest - been looking on the web to see how i find that out.... [06:37] SQL_Sam you'll probobly want at least 128MB of RAM to run GNOME [06:37] yeah kewl [06:37] trying [06:37] yes [06:37] SQL_Sam: open up the terminal [06:37] ryman: jannifer said it supports imap4 === thr1ce [~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] k [06:37] SQL_Sam: and type 'cat /proc/meminfo' wihtout the ticks === Alfred1881 [~MAlfred@82.174.22.37] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] um...should I not be running fglrxconfig ? [06:37] ryman, http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103 [06:37] hey all, me the noob is back [06:37] Sophistication| I'm there http://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12103 [06:37] so i was saying i'd like to install kubuntu beside mandrake (also kde3.4, , with konstruct) . Will the konstruct file in /home affect kde3.4 on Kubuntu ? [06:37] it's using a crappy version of the old xfree stuff [06:38] SQL_Sam: type cat /proc/meminfo to see your ram [06:38] salvestrini: that is...strange...are you sure you are not hearing the fan? === bienve [~bienve@200.88.199.17] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] kaesehummer| thanks for the link [06:38] k - doing now... [06:38] i am positive,, the fan is loud when it comes on i notice [06:38] ryman, yup [06:38] farruinn| jannifer didn't say it supports imap4 [06:38] SQL_Sam: just tell us the first line that you get. [06:38] what x.org does hoary ship with ? [06:38] SQL_Sam: The MemTotal: one [06:38] ryman, google only supports pop though === bienve [~bienve@200.88.199.17] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [06:38] er, gmail === waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:39] ryman, use the thunderbird guide its bascially the same cept for its gonna look different in ev etc but the ports & the way to config is the same. [06:39] jannifer: jannifer : it supports imap4 and imap4rev1? [06:39] hey im trying to play tuxracer on my computer but its really laggy, is there any reason for that? [06:39] I need to have an CLI that flashes an error message stat open long enough to read what it says - How do i do that? (nothing said about it in the system logs) [06:39] Sophistication| thanks [06:39] anyone have an ATI card working with 3D accel? [06:39] farruinn, evolution does [06:39] waseem: you don't have 3d graphics, most likely [06:39] oh my still doesn't work... trying 2 serial ports possibilities already [06:39] first line: memtotal 43964 kb [06:39] jannifer: oh, sorry, misinterpreted [06:39] thr1ce, yep. it was very easy under ubuntu.. followed that binary driver howto.. installed the packages and edited one line in the x config. [06:40] thoreaputic: yes i do [06:40] SQL_Sam: Woah...that is...very little. [06:40] Sophistication| do you kow whats the port for gmail ? [06:40] that is what i though [06:40] thought [06:40] 43964 / 1024 = MBs of RAM [06:40] dr_willis, but this wants to write an xfree86-4 [06:40] not x.org [06:40] memfree: 1708kb [06:40] JoshuaSydney: if you have usb ports, I suggest you get yourself a cheap USB mouse and just plug it in [06:40] curious thing fazer is that at the login screen the fan worked properly, and during boot up it also worked properly === potato [~uman@220-245-55-54-qld.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] thrlce: Ubuntu is still using XFree86 instead of X.Org [06:40] SQL_Sam: that is like 42 MB of ram. [06:40] thr1ce, the faq is mentionign the xfree version/config - same stuff applies to the x.org file [06:40] SQL_Sam: you should buy more ram before you attempt to run any type of GUI [06:40] thoreauputic: i have an nvidia geforce2 video card, tux racer should work === Crane [~Crane@cable-71-8-46-55.grd.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] lol - figured [06:40] why do I have an x.org, Doomgaze` === ells [~steve@69-171-77-164.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:41] salvestrini: maybe it's working better than in windows, only coming on when truly needed? (maybe?) [06:41] Doomhammer, * [06:41] SQL_Sam: So, I suggest you get xfce4 and change the depth of your resolution. [06:41] thrlce: *? huh? [06:41] how much is ram going for now a days? anyone know? [06:41] thoreauputic: if im using usb, which mouse selection should i choose? [06:41] I need to read an error message that is quickly flashed on the screen. Where is it recorded for xmms? [06:41] ryman, if I may pm you I will setup my gmail via ev & we can do it togather rather quickly if you'd like? [06:41] waseem: have you read and applied http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto [06:41] SQL_Sam: it varies widely depending on what type and speed you need... you should be able to get a stick for under $80 though [06:41] SQL_Sam: Well, now, old RAM is slightly more expensive. [06:41] I have an /etc/X11/x.org file [06:41] am I not using it ? [06:41] SQL_Sam: have a look at www.newegg.com [06:41] JoshuaSydney: my usb mouse "just works" when plugged in [06:41] i dont know farruinn all i know is it's not coming on since an hour and it's starting to feel pretty warm to the touch under the laptop [06:41] thr1ce, if useing the x.org version of x yes you are. [06:41] Doomhammer: or is pricewatcher.com still available? === Myrtti_ [myrtti@velhottaret.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:42] SQL_Sam: Are you in North America? [06:42] I'm in Arizona [06:42] salvestrini: :? [06:42] oo [06:42] :/* [06:42] okok [06:42] i just installed basic Hoary [06:42] thanks theoreauputic [06:42] fazer: not sure, but I *LOVE* Newegg... got my whole server from them for $337 8) [06:42] thoreaputic - isn't that great! - so does my external usb dive [06:42] Doomhammer: oh, hehe, awesome. [06:42] fazer: Duron 1.6GHZ 1GB DDR400 RAM boxen :) [06:42] SQL_Sam: then give newegg.com a try [06:42] farruinn i mean the fan has not come on for an hour [06:42] Doomhammer: damn, that's a pretty good deal. [06:42] I have a nearby fry's electronics (sucks) [06:42] JoshuaSydney: it even works with 2 mice at once (the other ps2) [06:42] SQL_Sam: wait, are you on a laptop? [06:43] nope [06:43] fazer: it really is -- I was surprised... of course, I did take the screen, cdrom drive, tape drive, and hard drive from the old sever... :P [06:43] home built machine [06:43] SQL_Sam: okay, now, try moving around the windows, do they lag? [06:43] and under my laptop it is actually hot to the touch, hotter than normal actually [06:43] I need to see an error message flashed at me by xmms where is it recorded? [06:43] nope [06:43] They just opened a Frys Electronics here in Indiana [06:43] Doomhammer: oh, haha, yeah, figures :P [06:43] SQL_Sam: what type of video card do you have? [06:43] dr_willis Fry's is a nerd's mecca - lol [06:43] salvestrini: what does less /proc/cpuinfo [06:43] say? [06:43] SQL_Sam: Do you know about the SQL Slammer worm? [06:44] lol - no === Unfrgiven [~ankur@202.76.176.94] has joined #ubuntu [06:44] And/or, have you considered changing nick to "SQL_Slam"? [06:44] dr_willis what is the Fry's theme for your store in indiana? [06:44] this has been my old user name for a while === UbuntuGet [~gustav@gw5.web.thalamus.se] has joined #ubuntu [06:44] Sophistication| nvm I got it thanks [06:44] do a lot of database stuff [06:44] IIIEars, no idea.. i haven been in it yet. :P it opend last week [06:44] SQL_Sam: heh, so I suggest getting openbox or xfce4 [06:44] compusa sell ram? [06:44] SQL_Sam: probably === Deafcon [~Deafcon@ip68-229-37-93.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:45] farruinn heres the full dump:processor : 0 [06:45] vendor_id : GenuineIntel [06:45] cpu family : 6 [06:45] model : 9 [06:45] model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1500MHz [06:45] stepping : 5 [06:45] SQL_Sam: http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/mssqlm.shtml , for example. [06:45] SQL_Sam: you *might* get a better deal online though. [06:45] cpu MHz : 598.544 [06:45] cache size : 1024 KB [06:45] fdiv_bug : no [06:45] salvestrini: Noooo [06:45] lol i visit a few times a month - my wife hates it. - lol [06:45] hlt_bug : no [06:45] f00f_bug : no [06:45] coma_bug : no [06:45] SQL_Sam: yes, but probobly won't have the type you want... I'll bet they will carry PC2700 [06:45] fpu : yes [06:45] fpu_exception : yes [06:45] cpuid level : 2 [06:45] .say echo [06:45] salvestrini: NEVER do that in channel again, please! [06:45] heh, just the temp would have been fine [06:45] wp : yes [06:45] flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 tm pbe est tm2 [06:45] bogomips : 1186.20 [06:45] okay sorry about that === GuruFF [~GuruFF@085.004.dsl.sa.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:45] he's still goin' :O [06:45] hey another dumb question [06:45] salvestrini: #flood [06:45] stopped =/ [06:45] salvestrini: This is called "flooding" the channel; see #flood . [06:45] hi can anyone help me with setting up path for jre ???? [06:45] okay wont happen again [06:46] of course if that's everything in cpuinfo then I guess it doesn't tell you the temp... [06:46] GuruFF: SUre, one sec. [06:46] tats correct [06:46] what program will play mwv files on ubuntu? [06:46] farruinn [06:46] k-otik: try mplayer [06:46] fpu? [06:46] i installed the basic version - figured i should have done server since i want to use samba, make a home webserver for development. Can i still use the desktop or should i reinstall the server? [06:47] GuruFF: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15 . [06:47] k-otik: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats [06:47] paulproteus; :) thx [06:47] SQL_Sam: you're running a GUI on a server!? :P [06:47] well not yet.... ;) [06:47] hehehe [06:47] 5.04 doesnt have any problem with mplayer and x crashing does it? === gdub [~gdub@d207-81-76-176.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] SQL_Sam: Hmm,can't really help you there, but if you are going to be coding on it, then I think you can just go ahead and download your server softwares and config/run them =/ === Crane_ [~Crane@cable-71-8-46-55.grd.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] Look at the bottom; read the section "Installing Sun's Java on Hoary". [06:48] thoreauputic: i followed the instructions on the link you sent me, but there were errors in the terminal [06:48] i typed sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx [06:48] anyone know how I statically set my IP address instead of using DHCP -- I don't have X Windows installed... [06:48] well i for sure want samba so i can have a file share [06:48] and the error i got was: === Crane [~Crane@cable-71-8-46-55.grd.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:48] salvestrini: sorry, I primarily use macs, so I don't really know what's going with your fan :/ [06:48] waseem try consulting www.ubuntuguide.org [06:48] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack): [06:48] subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2 [06:48] Errors were encountered while processing: [06:48] /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-glx_1.0.7174-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [06:48] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [06:48] ty farruinn [06:48] waseem@waseem:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable [06:48] sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found [06:48] i got two boxes at home - one xp and now this one [06:48] waseem: no copy pating here. [06:48] *pasting [06:49] oh sorry [06:49] has anyone configured faxing? I'm setting it up for my mother so it needs to be point ant click and it has to receive faxes while the user is logged off [06:49] Doomhammer: man interfaces [06:49] =/ [06:49] Doomhammer: You want to configure the file in /etc/network/interfaces . [06:49] paulproteus: ok [06:49] you should never copy pate in public [06:50] IIIEars: Well, if it's one line, it's fine. [06:50] salvestrini: i went to ubuntuguide.org and i followed the instructions but i got the same errors === Scuddie [~Scuddie@c-24-10-103-168.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:50] If it's two, it's probably okay. No one minds copy-pasted errors; most people mind channel flooding. There's a difference, see. :) [06:50] j/k it sounded like "Copulate" [06:50] waseem i dont knowthen it worked for me [06:51] IIIEars: Oh. Well, I disagree there, too. :) [06:51] well there goes an acpi reinstall :) [06:51] :-P [06:51] paulproteus: there goes the neighbourhood .... *grin* [06:51] i want to try learning perl and python - is it installed on the basic install? [06:51] yes === Curtman [~C@S01060050ba265908.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:52] o well i'll try rebooting and see what happens [06:52] brb === MacPlusG3 [~stewart@150.203.247.9] has joined #ubuntu [06:52] cool - maybe i should learn the bash first though.... === potato [~uman@220-245-55-54-qld.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:52] I want to change from intel onboard gfx to an nvidia pci card [06:52] what configuration modification does this require [06:52] SQL_Sam: you can do a lot with bash [06:53] i've heard - just dont know where to start.... [06:53] thoreauputic I thought you said "you can do a lot with hash" LOL [06:53] is anyone here running matlab by some chance ? [06:53] :> [06:53] SQL_Sam: I suggest http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/ [06:53] Jinxcolor - "" got an old Geforce 5200 lying around [06:53] matlab? isn't that an archaic piece of software? [06:53] Doomhammer: probably also true ;) [06:53] hehehe === myneeds [~ghowe@oh-71-1-33-37.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:53] I would learn Python before Perl or bash because it's a (1) easier language than Perl and (2) more friendly with you if you mess up than bash. [06:53] IIIEars : yeah gfx 4mx pci === dedinje [~dedinje@adsl-69-231-130-167.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] Then learn bash. [06:54] IIIEars : geforce4mx pci [06:54] Then make fun of poeple use use Perl. [06:54] SQL_Sam: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html [06:54] are there any online books for python? [06:54] how do I restart the network without restarting the whole box? [06:54] can someone help with a question please? [06:54] bash scripting and python have different purposes, don't they? [06:54] paulproteus; thx for jre, seams i have it running ok :> [06:54] dedinje: sure, I'll try :) [06:54] Doomhammer: maybe run dhclient [06:54] SQL_Sam: I suggest http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld/ [06:55] yuchan [06:55] I just installed ubuntu on my HD...and during installation I was only asked to setup a user and a password...but not a root password [06:55] need help with networking. apt-get won't update. I can connect to a few sites like ubuntu.com and google.com but most nothing else. [06:55] SQL_Sam: http://www.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide [06:55] usan1919 [06:55] how do I do that? [06:55] how do I add SSH to the default runlevel? [06:55] SQL_Sam: google for Dive Into Python [06:55] SQL_Sam: There's also http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/thinkCSpy [06:55] dedinje: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [06:55] Doomhammer: just apt-get install ssh [06:55] SQL_Sam: its a free book. [06:55] fazer: Dive Into Python is very XML, HTML-processing oriented. [06:55] Doomhammer: it will all be there automagically [06:55] HrdwrBoB: ok, sweet :) [06:55] thank you [06:55] sweet [06:55] paulproteus: which is good for a web developer like him ;) [06:56] Doomhammer: it's added at boot automatically - just sudo apt-get install ssh === revelater [~andrew@ppp-69-233-137-165.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:56] SQL_Sam: are you a web developer or anything like that? (dealing with XML/HTML) [06:56] oops - I should read more carefully.. [06:56] anyone here have neverwinter nights running? === sm2iar_work [~sm2iar_wo@linux.sunderby.fhsk.se] has joined #ubuntu [06:56] i just wish there were more jobs available for linux - I hate MS shops [06:56] thoreauputic: its all cool. [06:56] i have [06:56] thoreauputic: damn, I left the install CD in... brb... [06:56] I work with MS SQL Server a lot [06:56] could you tell me how to get sound working properly? [06:57] http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ (LiveCD) recommended [06:57] XML is a bitch to parse in script.... [06:57] ?? [06:57] SQL_Sam: ... [06:57] revelater: I think you need to be a bit more specific about sound - like what card? === snaggen [~snaggen@c-ac7070d5.034-37-73746f12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [06:58] thoreauputic: sound is working, just not with the game i have... [06:58] HrdwrBoB: XMLParser.py is bundled with Python. [06:58] paulproteus: I know this :) [06:58] hey about games - what is available for linux? [06:58] not to mention XML is *easy* to aprse [06:58] And in Python, I use BeautifulSoup to parse HTML very easily. [06:58] parse [06:58] I meant SQL_Sam, sorry HrdwrBoB :). [06:58] it's the entire reason for its existance [06:58] that's ok :) [06:59] Well-formed XML is easy, it's true. Malformed XML parses fine with BeautifulSoup. [06:59] thoreauputic: do you have neverwinter nights? [06:59] SQL_Sam: doom3, quake3, enemy territory ut2k4 [06:59] revelater: no, sorry [06:59] SQL_Sam: many more work with wine and/or cedega [06:59] i've heard of wine === Curtman [~C@S01060050ba265908.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === jc [~jc@219-88-160-125.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [06:59] I've had a really hard time getting ut2k4 running in Linux... [06:59] I did it once, but never since :( [06:59] revelater: try running killall esd before opening neverwinter nights [06:59] I play battlefield 1942 and World of Warcraft and warcraft 3 with cedega === ryman [~ryman@adsl-68-126-149-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Doomhammer breaks out the ut2k4 install cds... LOL [06:59] do you have to buy a linux version of the game? === MacPlusG3 [~stewart@150.203.247.9] has joined #ubuntu [07:00] is it possible to install xfce on ubuntu...and if it is...what files do I need? [07:00] SQL_Sam: no, the retail widnows install cds for ut2k4 have a linux installer included :) [07:00] sweet [07:00] HrdwrBoB: is Cedega free? the only thing I've tried is WINEX, and that sucked... :P [07:00] dedinje: sudo apt-get install xfce4 [07:00] Doomhammer: cedega is winex [07:00] it's not free [07:00] i gotta try installing it (when i have more ram) === benz [~bs@cpe-065-190-136-012.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:00] but I've had very good results [07:01] HrdwrBoB: hrm... do you notice any performance loss on Linux vs Windows? [07:01] how do i login as a root ... everytime that i try to login say wrong password ... i only set up one passwrd to one login the default login ... are there any default password for root? [07:01] Doomhammer: obviously there is some [07:01] but I don't notice [07:01] sudo [07:01] as I don't have or run windows [07:01] i know that one.... === mattcamp [~matt@adsl-66-138-124-218.dsl.wcfltx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:01] jc: read www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [07:01] lets see if I can install UT2k4... 8) [07:01] thanks [07:02] i know I gotta rebuild this box now - do i even have a video card... [07:02] ok, here's a question: I pop in the CD, it automatically mounts it, I try to "sudo ./linux-installer.sh", and it says Permission Denied... what about that? === Gman_ [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu === thr1ce [~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #ubuntu === dustoff [~chatzilla@cor5-ppp390.for.dsl.connect.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:03] ugh, no luck with this fglrx [07:03] do I need the -dev pack ? [07:03] thr1ce: I did for some reason === ryman [~ryman@adsl-68-126-149-97.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:03] Doomhammer: you need root privileges to touch the filesystem? [07:03] Doomhammer: do you have exec permissions on your cd drive in /etc/fstab? [07:03] whats the best site for Konqueror extensions? [07:03] b2s, did you run through fglrxconfig ? [07:03] oooh, or that [07:03] it's a CDROM, so I can't touch it ... it's read only [07:03] thr1ce: not really. I ran it but I didn't use the config [07:03] not write, exec [07:04] I just grabbed a few small sections of output [07:04] Doomhammer: that's not what I meant, but nm [07:04] b2s, just installed both fglrx and fglrx-dev for xorg, and it worked ? [07:04] Doomhammer: are you in the right directory? [07:04] hei [07:04] thr1ce: no it was a pain :) [07:04] thoreauputic: I'm in /media/cdrom0, where the cdrom is mounted... [07:04] b2s, what else did you do ? [07:04] andrew@brouwers:~$ glxgears [07:04] Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". [07:04] X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). [07:05] Doomhammer: did you run it with sudo? [07:05] sigh [07:05] what's plugin must be install to playing file .dat on xine or totem player ? [07:05] Doomhammer: the script isn't in a subdir on the CD ? [07:05] thr1ce: yes, you need the -dev package first [07:05] b2s, got that [07:05] ah, there we go... I did run it with sudo, but I did "./linux-installer.sh" instead of "sh ./linux-installer.sh" :S [07:05] thr1ce: sorry, I didn't read your line correctly. so then you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [07:06] thank you for your help [07:06] see ya [07:06] whoever told me to killall esd: it worked, but only for a while [07:06] b2s, alright; edit what exactly ? [07:06] I love this - looking on the job boards. I love these people that want everything under the sun (.net everlanguage available - 5+ years database admin, web development etc, etc etc) 25000.00/year! [07:06] revelater: only for a while? [07:06] most important: Driver "fglrx" [07:06] revelater: was esd started again someone? [07:06] somehow* [07:06] the installer tells me to take out CD 1 and put in CD 2, but I can't because "it is busy"... what do I do? :O [07:06] for my setup, I also needed Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" [07:06] grumble, grumble...... [07:06] farruim: not sure if it was started agai... [07:06] b2s, change it TO fglrx, or change it to ATI ? [07:06] though I'm told it depends on the mobo === Cturtle [~Cturtle__@194.178.121.114] has joined #ubuntu === billytwowilly [~chris@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [07:07] thr1ce: change it to fglrx [07:07] b2s, ok, done [07:07] Doomhammer: back out of the directory and eject the CD I guess [07:07] any network help here? [07:07] thoreauputic: ok... I'm thinking it's because the installer is running tho... :( [07:07] Doomhammer: if you are in the dir, it *is* busy [07:07] mhmmm [07:07] thr1ce: I *think* those are the only really required changes, though I putted around for a long time before I switched the AGPGART line [07:07] farruim: no, it wasn't started again, but the sound is still glitching [07:08] revelater: 'pgreg esd', if it gives you a number it's running [07:08] b2s, ok; then what, reboot ? [07:08] farruim: pgreg not found [07:08] revelater: pgrep, sorry [07:08] thr1ce: well, yes, or do a logout and then ctl-alt-backspace to kill X if you think it will be restarted. [07:09] hm...ok [07:09] brb [07:09] farruim: no number === waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:09] I don't know then, I've never used neverwinter nights [07:09] farruim: what is esd anyways? [07:10] enlightened sound daemon [07:10] farruim: and do you know how to install ut2k4? [07:10] Hi im having a problem with my nvidia video driver. Im at the ubuntuguide.org website and one of the commands is sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings [07:10] i keep on getting an error after pasting that command into the terminal [07:10] sound daemon, controls the sound device, but everwinter nights doesn't know how to use it (apparently, there may be some setting) [07:10] Does anyone actually like esd? [07:10] thoreauputic: it works if I don't run the isntaller in the console [07:10] revelater: never had ut [07:10] im using MS Virtual PC 2004 and Ubuntu is working great [07:11] waseem:try sudo su === sukmi [~s_megawat@stat.its.ac.id] has left #ubuntu [] [07:11] mattcamp: I doubt it :) [07:11] does anyone here know how to get ut2k4 installed from a dvd? [07:11] mattcamp: that's why they're switching to polypaudio [07:11] it keeps asking me to put cd 1 in [07:11] mainer: same problem [07:11] revelater: hrm... no idea, I'm still using CDs :P [07:11] Hmm, never heard of polypaudio === hgoesm [~hgoesm@p5493C718.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:12] another sound daemon [07:12] dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/nvidia/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by nvidia-glx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' [07:12] artsd sucks as well... [07:12] thats the error im getting [07:12] does anyone know what i can do to make it work? [07:12] anybody here play ut2k5?? [07:12] i mean 4 [07:12] revelater: I DO! I DO! :) === JinxColor [~ira@ip68-98-99-18.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:13] ut2k4, and installed with a dvd? [07:13] waseem: why do you have fglrx and nvidia-glx both installed? [07:13] revelater: ut2k4, installed with a CD :( [07:13] b2s: i dont remember installing either of them [07:13] Doomhammer: yes you told me this already... :P === braam [~braam@68-116-42-244.or.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:13] revelater: heh, I now :P [07:13] b2s: i think ubuntu automatically installed it for me [07:14] know* === thoreauputic is now known as thor|away === dedinje [~dedinje@adsl-69-231-130-167.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:14] farruinn: Cool. I just looked it up on Google and am going to check it out. I wrote my own sound daemon, USound (http://mattcampbell.us/usound/) about a year ago, but haven't done any work on it since then. [07:15] is there a channel for linux games? [07:15] b2s: how can i uninstall fglrx? would it screw up my computer if i did? [07:15] another one...how do I access my windows partition ? [07:15] how do I browse to it === hard_i [~hardi@rapla.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:16] wth is /dev/dsp === Scuddie [~Scuddie@c-24-10-103-168.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:16] is there a channel for linux games? [07:16] Uh oh... [07:16] Sound recorder keeps on giving me an error regarding that. [07:16] revelater: I've had good success with www.linuxquestions.org [07:16] forums are too slow === jobejbj [~jobejbj@pcp02131221pcs.galitn01.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:16] Well, I screwed up my menubar. [07:17] Scuddie: oh god, what did you do? [07:17] hehe [07:17] i need someone who has installed ut2k4 with a dvd... [07:17] I screwed it up. [07:17] can somone help me how do i edit xorg.conf ... if i dont know how to have root privelages [07:17] revelater: I have [07:17] Scuddie: removed it? removed everything on it? what? are you asking for help with it? [07:17] i seem to have nvidia and fglrx both installed on my computer, what can i do to uninstall fglrx? would it screw up my computer? [07:17] HrdwrBoB: tell me how you got it working? [07:17] Scuddie: you can delete the applicable things in .gconf [07:17] It's not what's there, it's what's not there. [07:18] revelater: I just installed it [07:18] HrdwrBoB: well it just started asking me for disk 1 and such [07:18] I have Applications/Places/System menu, but everything else is gone. === Luke1 [~Luke1@adsl-63-204-119-22.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu [] === subterrific [~jason@subterrific.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:18] Is there a good VLC client? [07:18] And it's just sitting in the menu bar [07:19] in the middle I mean [07:19] does anyoen know where you put mplayer codecs? [07:19] Scuddie: right click on the bar... ;) [07:19] And the bar got really big [07:19] does anyone know of a good automatic imaging program or script for linux usind "dd"? [07:19] fazer: you mean vnc? [07:19] Scuddie: I think if you delete ~/.gconf/apps/panel you will get a default config when you log in next [07:19] HrdwrBoB: didn't happen to you? === chavo [~chavo@104.sub-70-213-77.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu === matrix [~matrix@209-181-122-56.tcsn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:20] do you guys think OGG Vobis is better than MP3 format? [07:20] Doomhammer: yes [07:20] aye [07:20] yup [07:20] yes - unless you absolutely must have mp3s [07:20] Doomhammer: yes. if for no other reason, it is free. [07:20] so would it do anything to convert my MP3s --> OGGs? [07:20] nope [07:20] subterrific: ah yeah, damn. [07:20] that's what I figured [07:20] Doomhammer: not a good idea - you lose quality [07:21] subterrific: i tried vncviewer, but it won't apt-get. [07:21] Doom - nah - resampling will likely lose quality [07:21] I'd have to rip them as OGGs originally, wouldn't I :( === MacPlusG3 [~stewart@150.203.247.9] has joined #ubuntu [07:21] fazer: terminal client that ships with Ubuntu is good [07:21] Doomhammer: preferably, yes [07:21] I see... [07:21] can Winamp do that? if not, what ripping software do you use? [07:21] subterrific: ... oh. [07:22] are there any good scripts for the "dd" command? [07:22] Doomhammer: sound juicer or grip [07:22] fazer: Apps->Internet->Terminal Server Client [07:22] subterrific: thanks [07:22] subterrific: yeah, i found it, i am on xfce ;) [07:22] fazer: np, good luck ;) [07:22] Doomhammer: sound juicer is installed by default [07:22] Is there any good way to re-size the menubar at the top? [07:22] ya, tsclient is the command [07:22] without deleting the conf ;) [07:23] Scuddie: right-click, properties, size [07:23] It should be 24px, right? [07:23] that's the default === raluke [~raluke@pcp0011113792pcs.elkrdg01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:23] I like to have ONE bar at the bottom, at 50px, personally === thr1ce [~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [07:24] Great. Now to move the menubar to the left where it belongs... [07:24] when I logout, it goes back to a prompt; how can I make it go back to a nice gui ? [07:24] left!? you're crazy hehehe :) [07:24] thrlce: have you tried "startx"? [07:24] Doomhammer, yes, that starts gnome [07:24] not gdm [07:25] um.... so do you want to use gdm? === i3dmaster [~yongjian@c-67-177-236-7.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:25] thrlce: hrm... have you tried running "gdm" as root? === deFrysk [~deFrysk@g90181.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:25] thr1ce, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start [07:25] thr1ce: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [07:25] ah ... heh, these guys know better than I do :P [07:25] can anyone help me with my nvidia video card problem? [07:25] I mean the app/places/sys menu. The menubar goes on the left of the panel. [07:25] waseem: no, sorry, all my boxen run ATI cards ;( [07:25] im trying to install it on my computer but it seems that fglrx is alreayd installed, what can i do to fix this? [07:25] waseem: sorry, I was afk. to be clear, you do NOT have an ATI video card, just an nvidia one right? [07:26] ya [07:26] b2s: only an nvidia [07:26] Scuddie: middle click on it and drag [07:27] Oh, sweet. Thanks. :) [07:27] glad ya figured it out, Scuddie :) === gdub [~gdub@d207-81-76-176.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:27] damn I'm up late doing this... [07:27] waseem: then you should remove the ati drivers. drivers might be different, but normally I'd say try "sudo apt-get remove fglrx" [07:27] I was up till 2AM last night, and it's 11:30 PM now :P [07:27] << right clicking and middle clicking on everything and laughing gleefully. [07:27] crimsun: so far so good, but it's only bben a few horus :) [07:28] b2s: E: Couldn't find package fglrx [07:28] need help with MATLAB - anyone ???? === Reblended [~Home@000f66b2cb66.click-network.com] has joined #ubuntu === St0n3-C0l [~stonecol@202.141.240.1] has joined #ubuntu [07:28] How to remove Galeon History ? === iceaxe18 [~iceaxe18@c-24-18-105-137.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Conor [~conor@24.147.233.231] has joined #ubuntu [07:28] Hmm.. Just noticed that dma is off by default for my dvd drive.. there some service/config to manually be sure its on.. [07:29] dr_willis: hdparm [07:29] thor, you're supposed to be away! :) [07:29] thor|away, thats the command to enable it i know. :P but ive seen some disrtos with config files that make sure it turns on at every boot. [07:29] Doomhammer: heheh [07:29] Well, it looks like I'm on a roll here. Now to figure out why /dev/dsp is ALWAYS busy. === Echylo [~echylo@248-137.246.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [07:29] aha hdparm.conf :P there it is! [07:29] waseem: sorry, its xorg-driver-fglrx [07:30] Scuddie: isn't /dev/dsp your sound card device? :O [07:30] Ubuntu is in everyway better than Redmond's 9X - "Breezy" should kick XP's butt. === thor|away is now known as thorREALLYaway [07:30] Yes it is. [07:30] b2s: there isnt an fglrx package, so why is my computer detecting one? [07:30] Gnome plays sounds fine, but no other apps do. [07:30] dr_willis: /etc/hdparm.conf [07:30] ok, lets see if UT2k4 starts up... 8) [07:30] b2s: ok [07:30] anyone here use a laptop? and anyone have problems with "panel fitting" or AKA "digital scaling"? I just saw there was a fix for the sony vaio with a hotkey for xp, but I wonder if I can use this fix with Ubuntu somehow? (could this question be related to making the special keys for laptops work with ubuntu?) [07:31] supplied link: http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/intel815/sb/CS-004249.htm [07:31] Reblended: Did you set your smoothing to monocolor? [07:31] ok, I have the same problem... /dev/dsp is always busy, and UT2k4 says "Couldn't find matching GLX visual" :( [07:31] Scuddie: make sure those other apps are configured to use esd [07:32] where is the ut2k4 cd key stored? [07:32] esd=? [07:32] i typoed mine [07:32] I can't use OSS? [07:32] Scuddie, not yet, I'm just seeing if there is a fix or if I have to worry about it.. I'm hoping to get xserver to run soon [07:32] Scuddie, pci setting for my card, an intel 82815, is what I need, I think? [07:32] hot to make xine support for playing DAT files [07:33] how to make xine support for playing DAT files [07:33] Oh... Well, I don't know anything about intel video chipsets. [07:34] well, they're peanuts, [07:34] I found out too late [07:34] i installed xine-lib and when i try to configure xine-ui it says xine-lib isnt installed, i'm stumped >< === jorock [~jorock@ppp-69-229-211-190.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:34] But once you install, you'll need to disable smoothing or set smoothing to monocolor if you want to read anything. [07:35] Scuddie, thx for the tip.. and would that be a setting found under desktop...? [07:35] system->preferences->fonts [07:35] Scuddie, when running the live cd on an HP laptop it looked pretty good [07:36] the only thing that I didn't get working was the special keys on the laptop... like volume, etc [07:36] You weren't looking at white text over black. [07:36] ahh [07:36] And that messes up smoothed text like nobody's business. [07:36] ok [07:37] how strange === waseem [~waseem@cpe-67-49-36-167.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:37] I know. I wouldn't have guessed either. [07:37] b2s: thanks for the help, nvidia is installed now [07:37] It was only by accident that I figured it out. [07:37] happens, nice huh? [07:38] Scuddie, so, what kind of laptop? or is this just a desktop with lcd? === Dalkus [~dalkus@81-86-159-34.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:39] No, it's CRT [07:39] But it gets worse with LCDs [07:39] what's +e? [07:39] so, a feature isn't === benplaut [~ben@cpe-66-91-15-130.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === arkais [~arkais@200.79.193.207.cableonline.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu === Dreamer3_ wonders what it means if the default hoary kernel has a memory leak on his laptop === arkais [~arkais@200.79.193.207.cableonline.com.mx] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [07:41] The feature is designed to ease upon the eyes, and smooth text at high point sizes. But it messes things up at low point sizes, especially if the text is brighter than the background. [07:41] so it uses osa or anti-aliasing then [07:41] I would say it's best for office employees to prevent eye fatigue. [07:41] I'd guess === dewey [~dewey@c-67-160-122-96.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:41] retina burn [07:42] lol, no retina burn :D [07:42] It's just that most office environments run at 800x600 or some absurd number like that. === thorREALLYaway is now known as thoreauputic [07:43] And almost always have a black over white color scheme. [07:44] Scuddie: what is? [07:44] it's funny, I had to show a lady at my bank how to adjust her crt alignment and sizing controls... [07:44] and she was running at too low a rez too [07:44] my wife has to set her icons and fonts to be REAL huge.. :P [07:44] Reblended: no one knows how to do that :) [07:44] 800x600 with 1 inch high letters. === freex [~freex@202.69.167.225] has joined #ubuntu [07:44] she had a border around her screen that measured about one inch! [07:44] I installed the nvidia driver correctly and im trying to play descent three, the movies work but it wont go to the menus. It exits the game and displays the following error message in the terminal: Failed to load library[libGL.so] . Descent 3 Message(Error: Failed to load library [libGL.so] . ) System Error. [07:44] Reblended: i do that for every customer i have [07:45] Im like. would you like to use this empty space? [07:45] someone asked whether they could play UT2K4 on linux - the DVD version (maybe CDs too?) includes a linux installer. [07:45] Reblended: i just do it and don't ask [07:45] does anyone know what the problem might be? === ztonzy [~ztonzy@c-a444e055.560-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [07:45] lol dr_willis [07:45] waseem, do any other 3d games work? [07:45] tuxracer works [07:45] so, what's this ESD I need to setup my audio apps to work with? [07:45] waseem, just curious, are you using wine? [07:46] Quake3 is ported to linux no? [07:46] IIIEars, yes it is [07:46] And why doesn't OSS work? [07:46] americas army has a port to linux i believe [07:46] elow rum [07:46] waseem, is this a linux version? [07:46] how can i change my UID? [07:47] IIIEars, there is - not sure when the last update on AA was however. === Dreamer3_ yawns. [07:48] Scuddie: ESD is the enlightenment sound daemon and you should not setup the aduio === kaesehummer [~nick@132-251.115-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:48] i thoguht hoary was gonna do away with esd :) [07:49] how can i change my UID? [07:49] ***Dreamer3 - I need a script for the "dd" command do you know of any? [07:49] Scuddie: if sound is not working for you, it may be some bug. So file it in bugzilla.ubuntu.com [07:49] i would like to back everything up [07:49] anyone? [07:49] reblended: yes its a linux version === jan [~jan@host-67-35-36-183.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:49] IIIEars, you may want to check out some other backup tools - instead of dd. [07:49] how do I change my root user id? [07:49] reblended: no i do not use Wine [07:50] partimage? - [07:50] how can i change my UID? === robstockley [~rob@203-79-97-59.paradise.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #ubuntu [07:50] freex... === _mage_work is now known as _mage_afk [07:51] freex http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1874.html < does this help? [07:51] freex I'm still looking [07:51] IIIEars: what are youw anting to backup exactly? [07:51] Reblended: root's uid is always 0 - I don't understand what you want to do [07:52] since the descent3 i have is a linux version and nvidia is correctly installed, is there any reason why it isnt working? [07:52] well, freex has asked how to change a UID... [07:52] Hey guys, what's the best de-interlacing mode? === raluke [~raluke@pcp0011113792pcs.elkrdg01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:53] waseem, seems like its want ing some gl library [07:53] ubuntu hangs on boot at 'Configuring Network Connections' until times out with a 'temporary name resolution failure' then all is well. Primary network interface is wireless, only loopack is auto. Is there something I can put in /etc/resolve.conf to fix this? === ert [~user1@203.197.150.190] has joined #ubuntu [07:53] hmm ya im looking on google [07:54] thoreauputic, I actually have a more important question concerning what pic? code I should use for my graphics card [07:54] thoreauputic, I can't get xserver to run [07:54] waseem, i think nvidia has its own GL libs it uses - not sure - been ages.. where did ya get the descent3 from anyway? [07:54] hello [07:54] Reblended: you've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? === GuruFF [~GuruFF@085.004.dsl.sa.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:55] thoreauputic, yes. and it asks me for some kind of pci:0:2:0 code... I tried the default and then I tried it blank... could this be the problem? [07:55] lo :) is there a way to change theme for X, not for gnome not for gtk gtk2 but for X plain X ???? [07:55] Reblended: I don't know, to be frank [07:56] is tehre some kind of an equivalent to this in ubuntu? :export SETUP_CDROM=/path/to/your/mounted/cdrom [07:56] thoreauputic, thx for being frank =] [07:56] *there [07:56] revelater, thats just a bash variable set === shinzui [~shinzui@dsl017-119-248.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:56] set an alias? [07:56] its a variable :P not an alias [07:56] ok [07:56] export FOO=100 [07:56] dr_willis: it gives me command not found [07:56] hi [07:57] revelater, the : is not part of the command. :P === slurpas_ [~slurpas@cust-012-063.tv-net.se] has joined #ubuntu [07:57] revelater, installing UT2004? [07:57] dr_willis: yes [07:57] who me? shinzui =] === andrew_ [~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [07:57] can anyone help me with an annoying installer bug [07:57] GuruFF: X is just a protocol -m you can't theme X: you can only theme X clients (window managers etc) [07:57] hi to all === andrew__ [~andrew@brouwers.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [07:57] revelater, COPY the installer binary from the cd to your home dir.. then run it after expoorting that variable. (otherwise you cant eject the cd to put in the next one) === muempf [~muempf@byrt-d9bb6973.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:58] anyone recommend NOT going to breezy ? [07:58] thoreauputic, well can you change the startup splash? [07:58] what's the word.. when you don't think there's evidence of god, but you don't believe he doesn't exist either? it starts w/ an A... [07:58] dr_willis: its a dvd, it has all the cds on it already [07:58] revelater, cool [07:58] RexM, an egg-nogstic [07:58] andrew_, I do === skyweb [kvirc@host46-222.pool8254.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [07:58] Reblended: the Gnome startup? Yes [07:58] Burgundavia, why ? [07:58] tx [07:58] dr_willis: not cool enough.... [07:58] Reblended: that sounds right, but is it spelled w/ egg- ? [07:58] dr_willis: doesn't work [07:58] andrew_, not very stable yet. The sync from debian sid is not yet complete [07:58] RexM, lol no [07:59] Burgundavia, oh...hm; any idea when a good tiem would be ? [07:59] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7213 [07:59] RexM, agnostic = root word, Gnostic = Greek means "to know" [07:59] andrew_, early May [07:59] revelater, care to give a LITTLE more details. :P [07:59] ok...I can't get this damn ATI drivers to work [07:59] RexM: heh - agnostic [07:59] RexM, the "secret knowledge" [07:59] andrew_, there is going to be a lot of work during the UDU conference, whcih ends on April 30 [07:59] so I was hoping the newer drivers would help [08:00] Reblended: thoreauputic thanks ;) [08:00] dr_willis: basically, it asks me to put the play disk into the drive, meaning it can't see itself === A_Alam [~a_alam@202.41.228.162] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] hai === ac-id [~akira@mail.alink.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] malayalikal undo [08:01] dr_willis: so i need to force it to see itself [08:01] revelater, perhaps you set that veriable wrong.. what is your command you are doing to set the export. [08:01] export SETUP_CDROM=/path/to/your/mounted/cdrom === andrew_ is now known as thr1ce [08:01] export SETUP_CDROM=/media/cdrom0 [08:01] dr_willis: ssecond one, messed up the first [08:01] lol [08:02] ok.., i was HOPEING you were not that dense. :P [08:02] dr_willis: yes yes i know, tehre is no such directory [08:02] you could manually mount the cdrom to /mnt/cdrom [08:02] thats proberly the default location for it. [08:02] other then that - not sure what else to tell ya. [08:03] dr_willis: problem is that the terminal is telling me that export is not a command.. [08:03] ugh.. you are useing bash? [08:04] dr_willis: i guess so [08:04] didn't say bash: anywhere though [08:04] echo $SHELL [08:04] export foo=100 [08:04] to switch to an 686 kernel... [08:04] echo $foo [08:04] must I remove the 386 ? [08:04] prints 100 :P === Yvonne [~help@cn-sdm-cr02-0705.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:04] thr1ce: no need to === Stereotype [~nightowl@pool-141-158-145-214.scr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:05] da_bon_bon, just install the 686, and leave the 386 installed ? [08:05] dr_willis: that works [08:05] a spare kernel entry in your boot menu can save your backside at times. [08:05] thr1ce: yes. and during bootup, select the proper kernel in GRUB [08:05] ubuntu makes the grub entru automatically,anyway === hua [~cfcn@221.234.247.19] has joined #ubuntu [08:05] ok [08:06] what class does an athlon xp classify as ? [08:06] dr_willis: "sigh" should i try to go and get help from the developers? [08:06] thr1ce: i think u must "cat /proc/cpuinfo" [08:07] thr1ce: try typing uname -m to see your arch [08:07] i know it's 686 [08:07] nevermind [08:07] problery need to google [08:08] Corel, they are responsible for Debian... is this the same Corel that created Corel Draw? [08:08] it would be k7 or something like that ( not sure - i run intel here) === viviljan [~viviljan@satp12-130.dnayritysnetti.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:08] does anyone know when's the next daily cd? [08:09] sorry, I dont [08:09] they were not respnsible for debian,they developed a debian-based distro,like ubuntu is debian-based === salvestrini [~me@200.109.194.219] has joined #ubuntu [08:09] hello all === holycow [~a@S0106000fb51e6051.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:09] hi [08:09] mainer, tx [08:09] i have successfully solved my fan problem with a nifty little app [08:09] salvestrini, yah? [08:09] not surprisingly it's called fan [08:09] whitch country you all come from? [08:09] LOL [08:10] < from the most hated country? [08:10] anyways the app turned the fan off [08:10] of on === aluusima [~aluusima@satp12-130.dnayritysnetti.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:10] hi [08:10] Reblended, texas? [08:10] depending on the need [08:10] salvestrini, great! [08:10] -_- [08:10] holycow, ROFL [08:10] << "Fan" - writes it down - grin [08:10] salvestrini, and automatically? [08:10] oh you sad that already [08:10] hehe :) [08:10] salvestrini: on the contrary, when a *nix app has a sensible name, it's *very* surprising ;) [08:10] salvestrini, you are it's biggest fan, eh? [08:10] now here's the interesting part, i want to run this app for two minutes every five minutes, how can i do this? [08:10] hello , I live in finland:) [08:11] Damn [08:11] where you live?? [08:11] My Terminal Server Cient crashed =( [08:11] i was just interrested.. its the first time i use linux and noticed chat [08:11] thoreauputic, I was just thinking about the short name for Linux... "a faerie" or "nix"... would be right to say "nux" or 'tux" =p === salvestrini apologizes i live in venezuela [08:11] salvestrini:anacron [08:11] viviljan, how cool! what box are you running? [08:12] how do you go about mounting root as read only so you can run fsck on the reiserfs ? i tried shutdown -Fr now and it doesn't appear to do a scan [08:12] i have even tried touch /forcefsk [08:12] box? [08:12] can someone plz explain what technology does ubuntu use that enables me to apt-get off the live cd? [08:13] viviljan by box it means what distribution of linux you have installed [08:13] da_bon_bon, well ... apt-get === Taleel [taleel@toolnine.argh.org] has left #ubuntu [] [08:13] da_bon_bon: apt-cdrom is the command [08:13] holycow: try apt-get on warty live :P [08:13] da_bon_bon it's the beauty of debian [08:13] sry viviljan.. was on another window... [08:13] da_bon_bon: apt-cdrom add to add a CD [08:13] apt-get from the "Live" CD? - hm - no cloop or compression trouble? [08:13] da_bon_bon, well its a live cd, you know you can't install on that right? [08:13] ubuntu hoary 5.04? [08:14] union file system from a university project,made popular by knoppix 3.8 CEBIT edition [08:14] knoppix has some limited capacity for that [08:14] great! viviljan [08:14] holycow: u can, on hoary live cd.. or so i was informed. was i wrong ? [08:14] da_bon_bon: the live cd is a read-only file system [08:14] holycow, I have =] [08:14] knoppix with union? - interesting [08:14] thoreauputic, I've installed ndiswrapper, and Blender3D to name a couple [08:14] on Live CD [08:14] da_bon_bon, maybe, but all you are doing is installing stuff to ram if thats what you are wondering [08:14] or scratch disk [08:14] live cds mostly load them selves to ram and create a scratch disk [08:14] thoreauputic: someone informed me that u can apt-get and install stuff on hoary live [08:14] Reblended: ah OK - I stand corected :) [08:15] OK [08:15] thoreauputic, it's ok =] [08:15] holycow: oh, so not persistent, even on hard disk [08:15] when you install its first to ram if there is space then tossed on scratch disk [08:15] mainer do you have the link? [08:15] da_bon_bon, correct, hense 'live cd' [08:15] you can on knoppix, I seem to recall - so that makes sense i guess [08:15] i'll check [08:15] thoreauputic: only on knoppix 3.8.1 which uses unionfs [08:15] how's the boot to lan work? where's the installation files stored, etc? [08:16] holycow, thoreauputic: if u read the sounder list archives, u will know [08:16] http://www.fsl.cs.sunysb.edu/project-unionfs.html [08:16] AH, Thank You :) [08:16] da_bon_bon, know what? [08:16] welcome [08:16] holycow: know what i am talking about === aluusima [~aluusima@satp12-130.dnayritysnetti.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:17] i think its you that has no clue what your talking about [08:17] i already answered your question [08:17] take it or leave it [08:17] holycow, I actually got the live cd to boot! but then xserver let me down === [remoob] 41 [Miranda@216.168.103.134] has joined #ubuntu [08:17] holycow: :P how can i apt-get on a live filesystem ? what if my ram is full ? [08:17] okay i've boned the anacron man but still i dont know how to set up an anacron job such as the fan runs for two minutes every five minutes [08:17] da_bon_bon, read what i 'fin' wrote [08:17] then I did a sudo dpkg reconfig of the xserver and all I get is a gdk? fail [08:17] sorry...I am just a starting this thing...I live in finland [08:18] the rest is stored in a scratch filed [08:18] why do i haveto type this twice? [08:18] file even [08:18] holycow: "fin" ? [08:18] aluusima I wonder why I can't "tab" your name... [08:18] they write it to ram or use an installd swap-partiton or you mount a scratch partiton,many ways [08:19] holycow: ohok [08:19] :) [08:19] depends on the cd === topyli [~juha@dsl-hkigw3pa5.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] Reblended: heh I can't tab his name either - how odd [08:19] da_bon_bon, thats now 3 times that someone has typed that out for ya [08:19] thoreauputic, whew! not just me =] [08:19] how do you remount the filesystem to readonly please? mount -n -o remount,ro / says / is busy [08:19] clear yet? [08:20] thoreauputic, xchat bug? === oreo_masta [~oreo_mast@140.209.104.144] has joined #ubuntu [08:20] honestly what i have now is a crude hack, i have fan -n & running at gnome startup in order 80 === grunde [~grunde@pat-gw.osl.fast.no] has joined #ubuntu [08:20] Reblended: dunno - I'll fire up irssi and check :) [08:20] Wouldn't it be awesome to write the ram to disk just after initial boot to the GUI and just boot to that everytime at start up? [08:20] thoreauputic, ah? ok [08:21] this is done in system / preferences / sessions on ubuntu hoary [08:21] delltony:re-boot the system,you cant change it if it's mounted [08:21] at re-boot,runs fsck auto anyway [08:21] ok reboot but then what? [08:21] well how come it never finds anything? [08:21] and always says not clean? [08:22] Reblended: there is no user like aluusima [08:22] da_bon_bon, just a figment of my imagination? [08:22] what's it say,exactly [08:22] can emulators install programs? [08:22] Reblended: just writing the exact stuff to disk (the startup files) in sequential access on the desk can result in like 50% startup times [08:22] yes revelater they can [08:22] Reblended: ?? [08:22] Reblended: disk* [08:22] well i was getting input/output issues when trying to install kubuntu-desktop [08:22] salvestrini: easily? [08:22] Dreamer3_, so really, sorta worth it? [08:22] so i figured harddrive filesystem [08:23] Reblended: *shrugs* [08:23] Reblended: um - I don't think aluusima is here actually [08:23] Reblended: i don't start that often [08:23] thoreauputic, how weird! da_bon_bon [08:23] http://pastebin.com/272656 thats the error i get [08:23] that user was just here... oh well [08:23] revelater: YMMV with that, depends on how you configured the emulator [08:23] as far as what it says at boot thats gonna be tuff to tell you exactly :( anything specific other than it says Filesystem NOT clean === ubuntu [~ubuntu@pool-68-237-4-4.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:24] delltony- i just re-installed today,i run several distros off/on,no windows, and installed kde3.4,had no errors,system fsck's fine at boot,sounds like maybe a bad partiton or you tre-used an old partiton w/o re-formatting,not sure [08:24] Hey, before I install Ubuntu I'm just curious, what version of gnome does it come with? [08:24] yes, that unionFS very interesting: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/6654 [08:24] Reblended: yes, I did a /whowas [08:24] 2.10 [08:24] ubuntu: 2.10 I think [08:24] ok thank [08:24] s [08:25] thoreauputic, and they weren't registered? [08:25] www.ubuntuguide.org [08:25] and also i would just like to say id never use the name ubuntu, im just using the live cd right now === phoenix_atlantis [~Phoenix@atlantis.dolphins.ch] has joined #ubuntu [08:25] -- [aluusima] (~aluusima@satp12-130.dnayritysnetti.net) : Unknown [08:25] thoreauputic, funny, first time I've heard of that, whowas =] [08:25] delltony: strangeee [08:25] Reblended: ^^^ [08:25] thoreauputic, ic [08:25] mainer, thats why i wanted to run a fsck on it [08:25] cause the pc is new [08:25] ubuntu: 2.10.1 [08:26] anyway ill play with it thanks === ups [~ups@203.200.160.36] has joined #ubuntu [08:26] delltony ,try using the rescue feature when booting off the cd [08:26] Reblended: old Jedi trick, Luke ;-) [08:26] thoreauputic, heh [08:27] thoreauputic, I'd like to see what happens when you try /whoistocome === neuneu [~wcorg@196.192.109.239] has joined #ubuntu [08:27] Reblended: that requires tachyon support in the kernel ;-) [08:28] thoreauputic, ROFL [08:28] thoreauputic, or a borg hack [08:28] *temporal [08:28] ... a whole new meaning for "pre-emptive" === robstockley [~rob@203-79-97-59.paradise.net.nz] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:29] apt-get -i future-kernel [08:29] delltony: if a new pc it's probly the reiser fs,it's been buggy on some h/w,best to use ext3 [08:29] i have been told the exact same about ext3 [08:29] error, brain-network disconnected, please insert spinal interface [08:29] strange [08:30] Reblended: "unable to fetch some archives - perhaps try --fix-missing?" === tga [~tga@S0106000f66aeaf64.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:30] heh [08:30] not true to my knowledge,but google and read,that's the articles,i've seen, [08:30] well-night all,have a good day today:)) === mainer [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-149.gwi.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:31] wow... it is [08:31] thoreauputic, just make up the missing as you go along =D [08:31] apt-get -i combine all programs into one big all-in-one [08:31] Reblended: you clearly don't believe in predestination ;) [08:32] thoreauputic, very perceptive [08:32] is it just me or do the Ubuntu kernels have cpufreq somehow b0rked? [08:32] Reblended: have you read "In the Beginning Was the Command Line" ? [08:33] thoreauputic, No! lol but I have seen the excel '97 easteregg... in the beginning was excel... [08:34] thoreauputic, cryptonomicon? [08:34] http://www.cryptonomicon.com/command.zip [08:34] Reblended: yes [08:34] Neal Stephenson [08:34] peeking inside [08:34] ahh txt [08:34] what new games have come out for linux? [08:35] wowsers.. that's a hulk [08:35] !hulk [08:35] Reblended: interesting though - well worth reading [08:35] ?? [08:35] revelater: Frozen Bubble! [08:36] well,, not new, but addictive... [08:36] thoreauputic, LOL... I jumped to the bottom and I suddenly got futureshocked... something about an OS for daily life? [08:36] thoreauputic: is there a place i can go to find out about new games? === Mr-Petah [~mrpetah@33.Red-80-33-211.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === Agrajag [~Agrajag@66-215-172-98.sb-eres.charterpipeline.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:36] hi all === bienve [~bienve@200.88.199.17] has joined #ubuntu [08:36] thoreauputic: for linux? [08:36] revelater: yes, something like "Happy Penguin" [08:36] thoreauputic: and where do i got frozen bubble? [08:36] revelater, linux comes with GCC, you can make your own! or learn python and use Blender to 3D model [08:37] google that [08:37] hi bienve === zodman [~punk21@201.135.148.19] has joined #ubuntu [08:37] revelater: sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble [08:37] Mr-Petah, hi what happend ? [08:37] xd === NeoEcoS [~sebas@cable200-116-131-17.epm.net.co] has joined #ubuntu [08:37] here... reading [08:37] an u? [08:37] xD [08:37] Mr-Petah, cool. [08:37] chilling [08:37] juaz [08:37] xD [08:37] thoreauputic, install = -i ? [08:37] :P === zodman [~punk21@201.135.148.19] has left #ubuntu [] === sebas__ [~sebas@cable200-116-131-17.epm.net.co] has joined #ubuntu === Dreamer3 [~josh@sdn-ap-009tnnashP0220.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:38] ( Sistema Operativo ) Linux Ubuntu 6.10 - Breezy || Enterprise server - W2K bassed Kernel: 2.6.10-5-k7, GNU/Linux | Xorg: 6.8.2 | Escritorio: KDE: 3.4.0 | Cliente IRC: X-Chat v.2.4.1 [08:38] hi === ManuelJ [~Manuel@cable200-116-208-6.epm.net.co] has joined #ubuntu [08:38] wow [08:38] thoreauputic: you mean happypenguin.org? [08:38] how do I make xearth work in ubuntu? [08:38] : o [08:38] Linux Ubuntu 6.10 - Breezy || Enterprise server - W2K bassed ?!?!?!?!?! [08:38] lol === salvestrini [~me@200.109.194.219] has joined #ubuntu [08:38] xearth is the best thing ever [08:39] and it doesn't work in ubuntu [08:39] !!!!! [08:39] !!!!!!! [08:39] ! === thogzy [~thogzy@202.57.79.227] has joined #ubuntu [08:39] Hmm.. perhaps you need to tell the desktop/window manager to allow programs on the desktop [08:39] revelater: that sounds like it - I'm not a gamer but I've heard of it [08:39] q viva el diablo [08:39] xD [08:39] hello === _mage_afk is now known as _mage_ [08:39] sebas__, hi man! you have a good OS === ManuelJ [~Manuel@cable200-116-208-6.epm.net.co] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [08:39] stas, like scorched earth? [08:40] incredible hibrid [08:40] stas no wait... a shaded image of the earth? [08:40] quick quiestion how can i set up an anacron job for a program to run for two minutes every five minutes? [08:40] thoreauputic: that frozen bubble thing is like 12 megs of downloading, better be worth it.... [08:40] salvestrini, you mean to Kill it - if it stays around for more then 2 min? [08:40] thoreauputic: :P === bienve [~bienve@200.88.199.17] has left #ubuntu ["ME] [08:40] 2 mins with cable, revelater [08:40] revelater: heh - question of taste I guess [08:40] revelater: it's fun [08:41] dr_willis no i mean run for two minutes, wait five minutes, then run again [08:41] and so on [08:41] stas, still here? [08:41] stas 169k for the source: http://www.hewgill.com/xearth/ [08:41] can't you compile for linux? [08:42] or won't it work? [08:42] thoreauputic: wow, is everything on that websit free? [08:42] oss = free [08:42] revelater: as far as I know === Danten [~danten@h13n7c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu === Mr-Petah [~mrpetah@33.Red-80-33-211.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Ta'] [08:43] thoreauputic, if I have the linux source, can't I compile with DJGPP and run it on windows? === Shufla [~shufla@router.kkzabrze.com.pl] has joined #ubuntu [08:43] hello [08:44] thoreauputic, or is that not how porting works? [08:44] Reblended: I have no idea, sorry === drewcore [~drew@12-202-174-220.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:44] dr_willis the program is for a laptop fa control [08:44] Reblended: I don't think it's that simole, no === NeoEcoS [~sebas@cable200-116-131-17.epm.net.co] has left #ubuntu ["Me] [08:44] *simple [08:44] thoreauputic, yah, I wouldn't think so. =] [08:44] for some reason the fan does not turn on automatically [08:44] andi want to preserve battery === drewcore [~drew@12-202-174-220.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu [] [08:45] so basically what i want to do is to run the fan program for two minutes every five minutes === DrecoZA [~nick@rrba-146-93-56.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [08:46] why would running a program in console be a good idea? [08:46] ( I know that some programs only run in console ) [08:46] Reblended: less to go wrong, less resources, easy to script, blah blah [08:47] thoreauputic, hmm. thx [08:47] some programs just don't need a gui at all [08:47] i've got some problems with postfix+sasl - anyone here got time? i've got to much to explain, and I don't want to trash your screens :D [08:47] ic [08:47] and for future reference the fan program can be found at rpmfind [08:48] Reblended: also you can do a lot with non-X apps - eg mp3blaster is a console music player, mc is a console file manager etc [08:49] h [08:49] hmm... [08:49] just curious: thoreauputic, what game is this? http://happypenguin.org/images/nogravity.jpg [08:50] I have no idea , sorry :) [08:50] oh I found it... [08:50] heh [08:50] lol i was watching the apple 2 screen saver [08:50] 'mc' is well worth getting and useing. :P [08:50] brings back memories [08:50] I'm not a gamer, as I said === salvestrini 's first computer was an apple IIc [08:50] thoreauputic, me either... (I try not to) === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu [08:50] thoreauputic, funny.. happypuppy / happypenguin [08:51] anyone running Ubuntu on an AMD laptop? === urmajest [~urmajest@hawk-b-021.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu [08:51] can I just use a debian kernel-image on hoary? [08:52] tga: i'd say no [08:52] tga: not recommended [08:52] because.. === nnonix [~nnonix@t42.bkjohnson.com] has joined #Ubuntu [08:52] tga: coz debian aint hoary === linuxboy [~anon@yoda.frogfoot.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:53] hoary is based on debian [08:53] tga: different patches and functionality [08:53] but it's not a flavor of debian [08:53] but is not debian, tga [08:53] thoreauputic: that's my problem, the Ubuntu kernels are b0rked.. some crappy cpufreq patch === doko [~doko@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [08:53] tga: actually, u want what, the latest kernel ? compile your own [08:54] yep [08:55] I don't feel like it, I'd rather use a decent canned kernel [08:55] who here pronounces it "Lih-nicks" no "Luh-eye-nucks"? [08:55] tga: ubuntu isnt based on debian, it uses debian package manager [08:56] tga: maybe if you say what the problem is, someone will know a fix [08:56] da_bon_bon: dude.. ubuntu is based on debian [08:56] Reblended: anyone with half a clue :) [08:56] powernowd doesn't like my cpu.. it claims it's "known not to be supported" [08:56] thoreauputic, heh === phoenix_atlantis [~Phoenix@atlantis.dolphins.ch] has joined #ubuntu [08:56] who's using ubuntu as server here? [08:56] tga: file a bug on powernowd [08:57] Reblended: I can send you a recording of Linus Torvalds saying it, if you like [08:57] tga: powernowd decides what cpufreq modules to load [08:57] tga: do us a favor, just ask on -devel whether kernel is "b0rked" and then if no solution, file a bug [08:57] thoreauputic, Yep, I just heard it last night [08:57] thoreauputic, ty [08:57] fabbione: my bad :( [08:57] Reblended: :) [08:57] da_bon_bon: and no.. you dont't send people to -devel for this kind of questions [08:57] it gets better.. if I load the cpufreq module, change the frequency, unload the module and load it back up then it will report the minimum frequency as the maximum one [08:57] thoreauputic, I like the first way.. but I've heard a convincing argument for the latter [08:57] you check first bugzilla [08:58] I managed to get it to report my cpu supports scaling between 0MHz and 1MHz or something [08:58] tga: do you have a p4? [08:58] fabbione: sorry, my bad again [08:58] Reblended: linus pronounces his name linus, not lie -nus [08:58] nah, powernow-k7 [08:58] athlon xp-m [08:58] thoreauputic, yes,, like leen-us [08:58] Reblended: right [08:59] basically once I get the frequency down to 500MHz I can't bring it back up [08:59] tga: we are aware of problems with p4, but not with k7. please file a bug on powernowd with cpufreq as keyword [08:59] will do [08:59] tga: it's the same problem as the p4 i think [08:59] there was a very intrusive patch coming out to fix that issue [08:59] Reblended: mind you,, he's on record as saying he doesn't care how you pronounce linux [08:59] but it was posted 3 days before release [08:59] to dangerous to include [08:59] thoreauputic, just that you use it/ =] === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu === gorthaug [~gorthaug@12.Red-83-41-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === gorthaug [~gorthaug@12.Red-83-41-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [09:00] Reblended: World Domination!! [09:00] Reblended: mwuhahaha === Shufla [~shufla@router.kkzabrze.com.pl] has joined #ubuntu [09:00] re === seb128 [~seb@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === seb128 [~seb@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:01] thoreauputic, there's a guy that says, once Linux is mainstream, then viruses will be common for linux... I wasn't gonna argue with him, but I was like, yah, and you're reading Microghanda [09:01] Shufla: wb [09:01] fabbione: so, pursuant to our conversation on devel, can such bugs like the one tga has, be fixed on hoary or wait till next release. its not a security issue ? [09:01] Reblended: people who say that don't know anything about unix or linux [09:02] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1784 - I spent 6 hours :(:(:( [09:02] thoreauputic, nope.. but he did know a little about Linus... but that doesn't count === magerb [~michael@ip68-3-43-14.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:03] thoreauputic, the whole security issue is, don't install it unless you trust it, right? [09:03] da_bon_bon: the decent thing to do would be to fix the kernel and have a new version available [09:03] tga: i agree. thats why my question : [09:03] :) [09:03] Reblended: well, that goes for any OS - but hey, you can't look at source code to check in a non-free OS, can you ? [09:04] da_bon_bon: no. hoary is a stable release, and as such will only get security fixes [09:04] thoreauputic, yah, but until I get a lot of time to read code, when will I do it? [09:04] people can always reverse engineer... decompile? thoreauputic === magerb [~michael@ip68-3-43-14.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:04] fabbione: damn! so such showstopper bugs wont be fixed ? :( [09:04] fabbione: so in what repository will a fixed kernel package go? [09:05] da_bon_bon: a very well known behaviour (even if buggy) is better than destroying working setups [09:05] tga: breezy [09:05] da_bon_bon: cpufreq is NOT a showstopper [09:05] Reblended: reverse engineering won't show you the original source code [09:05] tga: breezy [09:05] fabbione: it is if you're using a laptop [09:05] tga: i have laptops too and it is not a showstopper [09:05] ah, [09:05] a showstopper is when the kernel doesn't boot or eats your disk [09:06] cpufreq is an extrafeature [09:06] also [09:06] fabbione: having 20 min battery life on a lappy that sounds like a leafblower isn't much fun either [09:06] it can easilybe powernowd that is setting the wrong data in /proc to scale the freq [09:06] fabbione: laptop users really need cpufreq [09:06] <|QuaD-> is anyone here using OOo2? [09:06] rofl tga [09:06] da_bon_bon: i have 4 testing laptops here... dude.. [09:06] fabbione: btw, I also got a frozen machine earlier.. I see the bug already exists [09:06] fabbione: that means you're not using them on the move [09:07] fabbione my sony vaio is quiet.. even with the fan going full out.. but it's only an 850 [09:07] fabbione: and keeping them connected to AC, u wont notice, huh ? [09:07] which is.. the whole point of laptops [09:07] tga: i do also test without power supply.. that's part of the test cycle [09:07] fabbione: and cpufreq doesnt matter ? [09:07] my sis's p4 (full size chip) 3.2 laptop is fairly quiet... even running ubuntu [09:07] oh, great [09:07] i want a solid-state laptop [09:08] well, i really MUST get a laptop and get rid of this silly Piii 550mhz :( [09:08] HP has 3 patents on the heatsink for their p4 laptop [09:08] 550 MHz is all you need for a lappy, most of the time [09:08] da_bon_bon: it matters only to a certain deegre. [09:08] I usually scale my 1.4GHz athlon down to 550MHz anyway [09:08] but no.. i don't get problems like from 4 hours battery life to 20 minutes [09:08] da_bon_bon, what brand is it? [09:08] if that's the case your battery has issue [09:08] fabbione: oh, no point in me continuing arguement, coz i dont have any lappies :( [09:09] Reblended: its a assembled desktop pc, not laptop [09:09] my battery is kaput after a couple years... spendy too [09:09] da_bon_bon: so why are you arguing so hard? [09:09] Reblended: re: spyware/untrusted software - install Win XP and Zone Alarm, then watch as the OS phones home... [09:09] fabbione: on behalf of all laptop users :) ? [09:09] fabbione: is there a fixed kernel in breezy yet? [09:09] < laptop user x2 and I don't have that problem [09:10] tga: not yet. i am preparing 2.6.12 right now === shock [~shockwave@dsl-213-023-245-130.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] ok, I won't roll my own then === mjc [~mjc@c-66-176-195-87.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] fabbione: and because i feel that atleast bugfixes are necessary, even on "frozen" releases [09:10] tga: + there is another problem that needs to get fixed before i can upload a kernel [09:10] thoreauputic: it's for your own good, accept it ;-) [09:10] da_bon_bon: the latter will never happen. [09:10] tga: the main blocker for me to upload right now is mkinitrd [09:11] <|QuaD-> i am noticing that spell check in OOo2 doesn't work, can anyone try to confirm thsi? [09:11] fabbione: latter as in bugfixes on frozen? [09:11] tga: so i need to wait that it is fixed [09:11] da_bon_bon: right === UniVolstrup [~univol@marge.cs.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu [09:11] Dreamer3: haha - of course, I forgot - how stupid of me ;) [09:11] and hoary is not frozen.. it is a stable release [09:11] fabbione: oh, bad! and is firefox 1.0.2 -> 1,0,3 counted as a security issue ? [09:11] there is a difference tehre === jc [~jc@219-88-160-125.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [09:11] fabbione: you package the kernels? === JCIE [JC@81-1-74-12.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [09:12] da_bon_bon: from what archive did you get that? [09:12] Dreamer3: yes. read the wiki a bit [09:12] Dreamer3: yes === Bloody|RLC [~puzo__@212.1.237.250] has joined #ubuntu === smo [~soneil@smo.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu [09:12] fabbione: get it ? i am just asking. coz mozilla says its a bug fix release [09:12] <\sh> hmmm [09:12] fabbione: maybe you could help me... (i haven't confirmed it's the kernle yet - just booted back to 2.6.8.1) but with hoary my memory slowly gets all used up, goes into swap, until the system becomes unusable [09:12] <\sh> guys...I'm totally crazy [09:13] thanks for the information \sh [09:13] <\sh> I want to swap from gentoo to ubuntu on a live enviroment ;) [09:13] fabbione: i quit X, go to single user (like 4 processes) and sitll have 400mb in use) [09:13] \sh: you're crazy for running gentoo in the first place, the rest doesn't matter :) [09:13] da_bon_bon: i don't understand what you mean.. did you upgrade to 1.0.3 from hoary? [09:13] <\sh> now, I have a 80gig hd with gentoo running, ok [09:13] <\sh> a second hd with 40gig and this should be the ubuntu install hd for now [09:13] fabbione: no. i mean, will firefox in hoary ever be upgraded to 1.0.3 ? [09:13] fabbione: i mean i reboot before it's impossible to use, but after 2-3 days it's sluggish, swapping, overloaded [09:13] can someone help me set up my screen resolution .. for some reason the only option is 640x480 ... i want to set it to 1240x68 .. i have ubuntu 5.0 [09:13] how is Suse pronounced? [09:13] Dreamer3: that could be a memory leak somewhere. you need to check what process is leaking [09:14] Reblended: depends what country you live in :) [09:14] Dreamer3: i don't see any leak here on hoary and my ws has weeks of uptime [09:14] da_bon_bon: no, hoary will get the security fixes. [09:14] Reblended: something like zoo-za I think [09:14] as i already explained to you [09:14] tga heh [09:14] da_bon_bon: package makes no difference [09:14] thoreauputic, ahh [09:14] garrut_: yeah, i don't notice it on another PC, just my laptop, but i don't really use stuff outside of the base system [09:14] fabbione: yeah, i don't notice it on another PC, just my laptop, but i don't really use stuff outside of the base system [09:15] fabbione: u mean, firefox security fixes will be backported for hoary ? [09:15] I'm not even sure how 'Ubuntu' is pronounced === UsefulIdiot [~jeremy@210-11-147-244.netspeed.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:15] \sh, I was gonna get a second drive, or even dual boot, then said, nah, kick it... and backed up my drive to cd and I'm trying to get xserver to run now [09:15] ooboontoo [09:15] da_bon_bon: exactly [09:15] tga lol like a baseball BUNT with u on each end [09:15] fabbione: could it be a kernel thing? [09:15] Reblended: no [09:15] fabbione: it makes a differnece... the about screen wont show latest version... and i am a stickler for latest version. what do u suggest, the backports repo ? [09:15] you-bun-too === Xebitx [fuck@0x535b6f46.esnxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [09:15] thoreauputic, heh, sound african, your way [09:16] ooh-boon-tu [09:16] Dreamer3: yes, but i seriously doubt. a memory leak of that size would be noticed by plenty of users [09:16] Reblended: it's an african word :) [09:16] can someone help me set up my screen resolution .. for some reason the only option is 640x480 ... i want to set it to 1240x68 .. i have ubuntu 5.0 [09:16] hey, ya, can someone gimme a AMR or WAV file with the correct pronunciation of ubuntu ? [09:16] ooh-boon-tu, yes? thoreauputic [09:16] Dreamer3: i tend to believe that it is a local application with your specific settings [09:16] Reblended: yeah [09:16] fabbione: hmmm... [09:16] jc: what video card do you have? [09:16] onboard [09:16] onboard 1 or onboard 2? [09:16] fabbione: well, if 2.6.8.1 continues to work i'll say you're proven wrong, but if not how would i find the app? [09:16] hi I woke up just now and I was doing a sudo apt-get upgrade [09:17] 1 [09:17] fabbione: i mean i open and close apps all day long [09:17] jc, check ubuntuforums.org multiple solutions there [09:17] altho my password for sudo dindn't work 3 times [09:17] and now === Reblended is too tired to troubleshoot my graphics pci setting... maybe tomorrow I'll ask for help getting xwindows to run [09:17] Dreamer3: one test could be to boot the laptop in single user and let it there for a while and see what happens [09:17] k thanks [09:17] it syays that Im not on the suduers file [09:17] cusco: visudo and add urself [09:17] Dreamer3: not if the application uses a feature that is in 2.6.10 only [09:17] da_bon_bon: he can't get sudo to work, how do you think he can visudo? [09:17] fabbione: what am i expecting, the memory to grow of it's own accord? :) [09:18] <\sh> ok...now u know what I wanted to do...what is the best way to do it? debootstrap? [09:18] cusco: you have to use the account that you created at install time [09:18] tga: oh, right... my bad :( [09:18] tga: and I did [09:18] \sh: can't you just reboot? [09:18] \sh: you have to reboot anyway [09:18] <\sh> tga: no [09:18] <\sh> later [09:18] cusco: try telinit 1 and pico or nano /etc/sudoers === hyapadi [~support@203.128.85.123] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] fabbione: interesting... so you'd think it'd be one of the daemons then? [09:18] <\sh> tga: i need to install first...and the server is far away from me [09:18] da_bon_bon: editing /etc/sudoers is evil, that's what visudo is for [09:19] Dreamer3: as i said it can even be both :) [09:19] <\sh> tga: so no cd install possible, everything has to be done remote [09:19] Dreamer3: a ps ax should show what application is sucking memory [09:19] <\sh> tga: as i said, i'm crazy [09:19] cusco is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [09:19] cusco@prometheus:~/eggdrop$ [09:19] Dreamer3: also, are you sure you are not confusing the mem usage with cache and buffers? [09:19] fabbione: yes, i know how cache and buffers work :) [09:19] \sh: one thing you could do is copy the livecd on the other drive, but that would be weird [09:19] tga: its not that difficult [09:20] Dreamer3: ok... just wanted to make sure :) [09:20] \sh: if it's a server you could just do a debootstrap and go with debian [09:20] garrut_: i quit X drop to single user and still 300mb+ is in use (not accounted for) [09:20] <\sh> tga: deboostrap with a kernel and grub...so i have to install it and reboot and hope that everything is running fine [09:21] \sh: that's not ubuntu however [09:21] \sh: although you'll probably be better off [09:21] fabbione: i quit X drop to single user and still 300mb+ is in use (not accounted for)... this is the -/+ line, i'm not gettin gbuffers and cache included [09:21] <\sh> tga: but i want to use ubuntu ;) [09:21] fabbione: so if 2.6.8.1 works out... reboot into 2.6.10 and do what? [09:21] fabbione: console? [09:21] <|QuaD-> why owon't anyone answer me about OOo2 :( [09:21] fabbione: though that really isn't great cause i use this for work :) [09:21] tga is bitter [09:22] <\sh> hmmm [09:22] <\sh> what about this [09:22] <\sh> running qemu with the install iso [09:22] \sh: debootstrap is available in ubuntu (it's in main, in fact) [09:22] <\sh> trying to access via qemu the second harddrive [09:22] fabbione: that's the thing i open and close so many apps... firefox uses a LOT... i've seen it up to 200mb i think... but isn't that normal? [09:23] nnonix: while ubuntu is marginally better on a desktop I don't see the point of using it on a server atm [09:23] <\sh> thoreauputic: i don't need debootstrap on ubuntu ;) i need ubuntus debootstrap on gentoo ;) [09:23] nnonix: but that's just me [09:23] fabbione: and i tend to leave firefox open indefinately as well [09:23] \sh: OK :) === Dreamer3 yawns. [09:23] tga: I wouldn't argue with that statement. === moneyfirst [~support@203.128.85.123] has joined #ubuntu [09:24] |QuaD-: because nobody dares using it since it's too unstable still :) === AlohaWolf [alohawolf@cpe-67-49-96-168.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:25] <|QuaD-> topyli: lol thanks [09:25] <|QuaD-> haha [09:26] tga: i don't see why ubuntu wouldn't be a good server too. just like debian, only it's more up to date :) [09:27] topyli: ubuntu is more up to date than debian ? lol, u r joking. [09:27] how do I find the BusID of my video card? [09:27] I just install ubuntu a few hours ago and it's very amazing. Docs <_-- very nice for newbie [09:27] df -h . === oferw [~chatzilla@HFA62-0-186-24.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [09:27] ooops [09:28] moneyfirst, cool! what machine are you running? [09:28] anyway... can someone help me with WPA ( wireless enscription ) [09:28] da_bon_bon: i'm not joking. servers use stable distributions you know. woody doesn't exactly have the latest and greatest [09:28] I'm running intel p3 with 512 mb ram.. old comp [09:28] yah moneyfirst [09:28] topyli: it wouldn't be much worse, but I don't see people making it significantly better either [09:28] topyli: like including php5 packages for instance [09:28] but it perform good with ubuntu [09:28] moneyfirst, I just did wep the other day [09:28] the wireless card is working [09:29] moneyfirst, great! === bosewicht [~bosewicht@hnllhi1-ar1-4-65-058-061.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:29] and should be the wpa === Hmm [~knoppix@S0106000f3d5ae683.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:29] moneyfirst, have you found the wpa settings? [09:29] but i need help in configuring the wpa supplicant [09:29] btw, wpa supplicant <-- installed already [09:29] Omigod. [09:29] Dreamer3: the only way to see if it is a kernel memory leak is to boot in single user and let it sit there for a while [09:29] I found the tutorial in the wiki [09:29] but can't understand it [09:29] Dreamer3: and yes.. i do understand that you use the laptop [09:29] moneyfirst, got the url? [09:29] tga: well, if that's what you need, you find a distro that has it of course [09:30] wait...give me a second [09:30] topyli: right. that way, ok. but sarge and sid are much more updated than hoary... but i guess u cant compare them... :) [09:30] Dreamer3: firefox isn't really the best thing to test with :P [09:30] moneyfirst, k === Bazzi [~Bastian@pD95EB459.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:30] fabbione: so, anything terrible about sticking with 2.6.8.1 (if it works) or moving to a newer kernel? [09:30] da_bon_bon, sarge is older than hoary [09:30] da_bon_bon, and breezy just synced to breezy [09:30] da_bon_bon? [09:30] da_bon_bon: can I have some of your crack/ [09:30] da_bon_bon, hoary did too, until the upstream version freeze [09:30] Dreamer3: ok.. let say you quit X.. is there anything else running in background that is sucking memory? [09:30] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto [09:31] Perhaps someone can tell me why my sound configuration reports the OSS device as a Realtek ALC650f? [09:31] fabbione: no, i dropped to single user mode... and logged in... bash (1 or 2 other small things) then kernel tasks === phoenix_atlantis [~Phoenix@atlantis.dolphins.ch] has joined #ubuntu [09:31] Reblended : http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto this is the url [09:31] moneyfirst, yep... got it thx [09:31] da_bon_bon: sid is sid, not really a stable platform. testing is even worse, it's the last one to get security updates. i wouldn't use testing even on a desktop [09:32] fabbione: yet still 300/400mb in use [09:32] Scuddie: because your sound device is a Realtek ALC650f??? [09:32] Burgundavia: didnt i say that u cant compare them ? i'd say that breezy can be compared to sid and sarge... [09:32] Burgundavia: are u sure that sarge is older than hoary ?? [09:32] reading up... moneyfirst sry, thought you had said wep.. but let me take a look [09:32] Reblended : ok, i'll wait :> [09:32] sarge is really old [09:32] thoreauputic: :P whaddya mean, i am hung ? [09:32] <\sh> http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html === dwa_ [~dwa@garrut.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu === telemaco [~telemaco@15.Red-81-36-77.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:32] <\sh> this is what i need ;) === St0n3-C0l [~stonecol@202.141.240.1] has joined #ubuntu [09:33] I honestly had no idea Realtek has anything to do with nVidia's MCP-T audio chipset [09:33] moneyfirst, did you run the script? [09:33] I installed linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 and it gave me kernel panic [09:33] strange! [09:33] Remenic I haven't try it, since i can't understand what it told [09:33] I've linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 [09:33] da_bon_bon: sid is a nice desktop though, if you know how to fix it when it breaks :) [09:33] err [09:33] oot@1[knoppix] # chroot /mnt/hda7/ /bin/bash [09:33] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory [09:33] fabbione: i mean there were services and stuff, so to be sure i dropped to runlevel 1, and still no dice (still memory used) [09:33] topyli: really ? why is sarge the last to get security updates ? === Hmm is now known as KarlosII [09:33] Reblended I haven't try it, since i can't understand what it told [09:34] moneyfirst, ahh [09:34] bosewicht: whay do you mean sarge is really old? its not even released yet === nate [~nate@202-0-37-248.cable.paradise.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] why won't it let me chroot? [09:34] Scuddie: Realtek makes LAN devices ? === tremor_ [~tremor@d51A52A5A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [09:34] KarlosII: are you sure you have the right partition there? [09:34] da_bon_bon: testing doesn't get security updates. packages get from sid to testing sometimes, and you can hope they have no problems [09:34] Reblended so far i only installed the wpa supplicant using synaptics [09:34] fabbione: any other comments, i hvae to split? [09:34] thoreauputic: yea it is, I'm trying to fix my ubuntu install [09:35] with the debian repos, all of them are old, if u don't use extra repos, u will have a relatively old system [09:35] I'm getting kernel panics [09:35] KarlosII: same problem with me too! [09:35] so hda7 is your root partition? [09:35] yes [09:35] moneyfirst, ok.. and it says to copy your wpa_supplicant.conf to /etc and edit it... [09:35] I am updating my kernel and kernel panic :s [09:35] Is there a repository anywhere on the net for Ogg Theora format videos? [09:35] thankgod I didn't removed the other one :P [09:35] ie, any videos that can be played natively by Ubuntu? === nnonix watches the people talk out of their asses [09:36] root@1[knoppix] # ls /mnt/hda7/bin/bash [09:36] /mnt/hda7/bin/bash [09:36] nate: good question - if you find out please tell me [09:36] fabbione: anything? [09:36] topyli: oh, but whats the real difference between sid and sarge ? i mean, sid is just updated faster, right ? [09:36] nate: I've only found one [09:36] hmm [09:36] da_bon_bon and with more risky packages [09:36] as in, may not work [09:36] thoreauputic: oh? which one? [09:36] nate: i wouldnt mind knowing either ;) [09:37] it's something it would be good to put in the FAQ, or on the Wiki I guess, if we find any [09:37] da_bon_bon: Sid is unstable branch and Sarge is in testing... [09:37] da_bon_bon: new upstream versions get to sid. if they have no problems for a while (a few weeks) and there are no conflicts, they get to testing [09:37] both are diff :P [09:37] at present I haven't found even one [09:37] got a question about upgrading warty to hoary... changed my sources.list to "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted" and ran apt-get update (successful) but upgrade/dist-upgrade does not find any packages to update. if I try to install something manual it complains about missing dependencies/version-nr -- any ideas/hints for me??? [09:37] thoreauputic: no idea i take it [09:37] or at least I found one that only played audio [09:37] ... [09:37] nate: only one video I mean [09:37] thoreauputic: right, that's what I thought === cor1 [~joshua@106.Red-83-34-155.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === sparkling [epoc@host26-51.pool81117.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [09:37] hi all [09:38] p0si: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main universe multiverse restricted [09:38] thoreauputic, can you make sense of this for moneyfirst (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto) [09:38] there isn't even a sample test video that comes with Totem, is there? [09:38] and then [09:38] nate: http://www.polycrystal.org/lego/movies/a_new_computer.ogg [09:38] p0si: apt-update [09:38] woohoo [09:38] apt-get update** [09:38] da_bon_bon: the real difference is that sid is not even meant to be released, ever [09:38] hey, can someone gimme a AMR or WAV file with the correct pronunciation of ubuntu ? [09:38] downloading [09:38] st0n3-c0l: thats what I did... [09:39] Reblended: no, I'm profoundly ignorant about wifi, sorry [09:39] topyli: and sarge is frozen at a point in time to be woody, right ? [09:39] da_bon_bon 'my name is Mark Shuttleworth and I prounounce Ubuntu Ubuntu'? [09:39] p0si: Strange. [09:39] cat /etc/issue [09:39] nate: not my idea of a joke :P [09:39] hello === manzanita [~manzanita@166.Red-80-59-173.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:40] nate, i used thoggen to rip a short DVD just to test how Theora looked/performed === cor1 is now known as corp_ === whiteknight [~james@81-178-230-92.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:40] we should have that as a video :) === schasi [~schasi@pD95E2B92.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:40] manzanita: ole! === KarlosII curses [09:40] i have just installed a KDE theme, but it doesnt show up in the themes list [09:40] i installed it via Synaptic === comfrey_ [~comfrey@208-151-246-153.dq1sn.easystreet.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:40] hey all [09:40] what do i have to do to make this theme show up? [09:41] ooh [09:41] Breezy has started putting some updates [09:41] thoreauputic, any thoughts? [09:41] and I've updated all of them;) [09:41] i am trying to figure out what is loading psmouse every time my box boots? === sabmoc [~alex@d154-20-231-240.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:41] is it discover? [09:41] I see now on the Theora.org site there are videos of the Fedora development conference from late March [09:41] Reblended: sorry, on what? [09:41] da_bon_bon: it becomes stable, yes. but it will be released as sarge and the new testing will get its own name [09:42] topyli: oh ok.. right. === RichiH [richih@richih.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu [09:42] thoreauputic, on wifi lol know anyone here that can help? [09:42] thoreauputic, it's a wpa question [09:42] comfrey_: discover or hotplug [09:42] also, i dont know what debian has got to do with stupid toy story 2 :( [09:42] is breezy even usable? [09:42] is it mostly hoary right now or what? [09:42] Reblended: as I said, I know nothing about it, sorry === martin [~martin@station1.cemus.UU.SE] has joined #ubuntu [09:42] thoreauputic, np [09:42] liable: interesting... i will investigate [09:43] thoreauputic, I'm wondering if you can make sense of the steps, though? [09:43] da_bon_bon: read debian history.... [09:43] comfrey_: if you want it to stop, you will have to blacklist it in both [09:43] Dreamer3: some dude on devel told me to wait.. [09:43] Shufla: where ? [09:43] hmm [09:43] A New Computer is Creative Commons Sharealike [09:43] da_bon_bon: try google or wikipedia. second debian leader was Pixar's employer [09:43] we could distribute it as a demo movie if it's any good... [09:43] ok, i have it blacklisted in discover and now will do the same in hotplug [09:44] and vesa too === mawe3661 [~martin@station1.cemus.UU.SE] has joined #ubuntu [09:44] da_bon_bon: well, yeah, it's probably not recommended to run :) i was juast asking sine it was being discussed [09:44] wait [09:44] nate: it's cute [09:44] i have a i855GM and am trying to get better video than vesa, but unsure of the fb to use [09:44] according to the website, it's ogg Audio only? [09:44] MPEG4/Ogg [09:44] nate: no, it's a vid [09:45] theora = ogg [09:45] Shufla: oh ok. that explains it... [09:45] sure [09:45] nate: I have it here [09:45] no [09:45] Ogg is a container format [09:45] Theora is a codec [09:45] anyway, i'm off guts [09:45] right [09:45] s/guts/guys [09:45] bye [09:45] cya later [09:45] what '-dev' package has the pthread lib in it [09:45] are you sure it's not using Xvid as the video codec? [09:45] nate so I can encode with other than theora and still contain it in ogg? [09:46] wondering if i810 is the best fbdev for 855gm or if i should use intelfb [09:46] nate: the file extension is .ogg for both audio and video [09:46] I believe so [09:46] it seems that intelfb is way outa date [09:46] yes, that's not my point [09:46] ok, heres a reboot for psmouse [09:46] nate: peter@panarchy:~/video $ file a_new_computer.ogg [09:46] a_new_computer.ogg: Ogg data [09:46] ... [09:47] I'm not disputing that === jack_debian [~jack@202-63-168-40.exatt.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:47] extensions are sooo last century [09:47] but Ogg does not imply Theora [09:47] k [09:47] any more than QuickTime implies Xvid [09:47] nate: I know [09:47] thoreauputic, he was telling me [09:47] =] [09:47] ace2001ac, pthreads is part of glibc [09:47] oh wait [09:48] he does have a Theora encoding on his site, as well as Xvid/Vorbis [09:48] whew === doko [~doko@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:48] I was afraid it was this one: http://polycrystal.org/lego/movies/a_new_computer-small-mpeg4-vorbis.ogg [09:48] nate: there's a small version that's mpeg/ogg as well === ICU [~me@host-95173.ewetel.de] has joined #ubuntu [09:48] that'll be it [09:48] Seveas: hmm... so I shouldn't be getting this error? "undefined reference to `pthread_key_create'" [09:49] From Spirit and Love you get Independence! [09:50] nate: have you tried the bigger one? It plays well here [09:50] anyone here know how to setup WPA? moneyfirst needs help with it: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto === gaio [~gaio@213-140-22-71.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:50] yay [09:50] it's playing [09:50] when i use sudo -u username -s i cant start X applications, why is this? [09:51] ace2001ac, have you linked it against -lpthreads? [09:51] Reblended, i wrote the wpahowto :) [09:52] jubei: gksudo command [09:52] ok tah === pvanhoof [~pvanhoof@cvs.maia-scientific.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:52] will that work with kde? === libpng [~png@dsl81-215-37109.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu [09:52] Seveas: ah, I'll try [09:52] jubei: kdesu I think [09:52] hee hee hee [09:52] <\sh> hehe [09:52] <\sh> starting my adventure [09:53] can we make a .deb for this and get it added to Universe or Multiverse? [09:53] nate, which? [09:54] nate: you could suggest it in #ubuntu-motu I guess [09:54] Burgundavia: A New Computer, as a demo Theora file for Totem [09:54] moneyfirst? [09:54] I remember Windows 95 had a music video clip it shipped with [09:54] nate, lol [09:54] nate, might be good [09:55] 'Good Times', I think === thoreauputic_ [7eda5fc5fa@wolax8-087.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [09:55] I need to know... How do I force a resolution upon gnome? === GNAM [~Navarro@natpool-1-18.pd.astro.it] has joined #ubuntu === Dreamer3_ [~josh@sdn-ap-005tnnashP0354.dialsprint.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:56] moneyfirst, ty more for the caution of wep... [09:56] bye all! [09:56] Seveas: it worked, thanks [09:56] Scuddie, you don't, you force a resolution upon X === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-67-49-107-13.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:56] Yeah, I know... [09:56] Scuddie, edit your xorg.conf (hoary) or XFree86-4 (warty) === TheoVN1605 [~Theo@wblv-146-246-207.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [09:57] Hi! - Do i need a plugin for totem/xine to play DVDs? [09:57] you certainly do [09:57] IIIEars, yes [09:58] xine-dvdnav? [09:58] read the media stuff here: http://ubuntuguide.org/ === jk_ is now known as jk [09:58] That should be in /etc, right? [09:58] Scuddie: /etc/X11/balh [09:58] lol - rtfm - lol - okay - you might guess i am new. [09:58] s/balh/blah [09:58] Thank You :) [09:59] there's a section thing on dvd playback === fkat [~fkat@203.210.231.20] has joined #ubuntu [09:59] aspell ain't working for gnome applications in breezy === revelater [~andrew@ppp-69-233-137-165.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:59] how can this be fixed? [09:59] Whats the driver availibilty for dell laptops?? === Deafcon [~Deafcon@ip68-229-37-93.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-67-49-107-13.socal.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [09:59] hello [09:59] nate: i remember it did have the blue screen of death just like the movie does :) [09:59] pvanhoof: buting a dictionary :) [09:59] TheoVN1605, depends on the model [09:59] i just used synaptic to download wxpython, latest version, how do i access it? [10:00] 1. dump weird release names 2. switch to year-based release names 3. ??? 4. profit === tombs [~tombs@i62070.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:00] people are using Breezy already? Yow [10:00] yay [10:00] i just used synaptic to download wxpython, latest version, how do i access it? [10:00] To be a su, I required a password for this... [10:00] breezah! [10:00] Hmmm... [10:00] <|QuaD-> topyli: i saved as sxw and am usin 1.0 :) [10:00] revelater, wxpython is a toolkit, not a program [10:01] tga: you forgot 1(a) Find a rich ex astronaut ;-) [10:01] a binding, even [10:01] revelater, read the manual... seriously, we cannot explain wxpython programming on IRC === doko [~doko@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:01] Burgundavia, i just donwloaded it and a program needs to use it... [10:01] I see 1152x864, but I can't seem to get higher than 1024x768. Weird [10:01] I guess you'd need wxWorks as well, is that a dependency? [10:01] revelater, the program will know what to do [10:01] revelater, which program? [10:01] |QuaD-: OO.o 1.0? that's the one to use if you want a more or less working office suite :) [10:02] liable, :) === Skywind [~Skywind@218.94.37.185] has joined #ubuntu [10:02] Burgundavia, its a game... [10:02] revelater, which game? [10:02] its not recognizing the changes... [10:02] Burgundavia, TP [10:02] So how do I force a resolution upon X if xorg.conf is ignored? [10:02] revelater, then likely the game is borked. TP? === eromb [~eromb@80-219-245-219.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu [10:02] Scuddie, hmm? [10:02] Burgundavia, toilet paper.. [10:03] Burgundavia, j/k [10:03] revelater: you have wxpython toilet paper? :) [10:03] Scuddie: have you just changed it recently? [10:03] Scuddie: without reboot/ restartx [10:03] revelater, do you have an issue that I can solve? [10:03] Burgundavia, thousand parsec [10:03] <|QuaD-> topyli: it actually crashed recently, 2.0 hasn't crashed yet :) [10:03] I just changed it before my last reboot. [10:03] it seems that its a version confliction [10:04] |QuaD-: heh. well, my experience is the opposite. then again, i don't use OO.o much [10:04] Actually, come to find out, I didn't have to change it at all. The resolution mode was already there. [10:04] Burgundavia, do i need to open the program using python as the program? [10:04] <|QuaD-> topyli: me neither :) [10:04] revelater, the program should just find the library [10:04] revelater, if it doesn't then the program is likely borked [10:05] or the library [10:05] This is why linux scares me. [10:05] or the toilet paper === mjc_ [~mjc@c-66-176-195-87.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:05] hehe === quempion [~quempion@200-55-81-236.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu === xukun [~xukun@xm0027.uvt.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:05] Apparently, I aint smart enough to get anything right. [10:05] <|QuaD-> does anyone knwo the status of beagle? i heard it was almost ready [10:05] Scuddie: persistence! [10:05] hello i just installed ubuntu. how to know what ports i've open? and how to open/close ports? can anyone helps me ? [10:06] Scuddie, you are smart enough, but what is the issue === png_ [~png@dsl81-215-13637.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu [10:06] |QuaD-, is still very beta [10:06] quempion, no open ports by default === IIIEars [~bill@cpe-67-49-107-13.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:06] <|QuaD-> Burgundavia: eh? it is pretty stable, just not on ubuntu [10:06] <|QuaD-> works great on my foresight box [10:06] |QuaD-, have you used it Ubuntu? [10:06] Scuddie: things should already be "right" after you install ubuntu. you shouldn't be bothered with such stuff [10:06] |QuaD-, where are you getting your packages? === megamind [~azhar@202.61.35.52] has joined #ubuntu [10:07] <|QuaD-> Burgundavia: did you read what i wrote? [10:07] I see 1152x864 in xorg.conf, but I don't see it Screen Resolution. === k-n [cl8ner@219.93.58.106] has joined #ubuntu [10:07] hi what is ubuntu horey default root password [10:07] |QuaD-, sorry, responded at the same time, where are you getting your packages? [10:07] I am currently running in 1024x768 [10:07] k-n, none, Ubunt uses sudo. See www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo [10:08] <|QuaD-> Burgundavia: i said it doesn't work well on ubuntu [10:08] And that resolution isn't good enough. [10:08] k-n: root is disabled and doesn't need a password === mjc [~mjc@c-66-176-195-87.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:08] |QuaD-, some of the packages out there are borked. http://manno.name/debian/ <-- this one is particular [10:08] <|QuaD-> Burgundavia: it works well on my foresight box... it seems developers of debian based distros are having problems [10:08] no nmap in this LiveCD? that's lame [10:09] |QuaD-, there were some issues with packaging mono is debian that have been resolved in sid/breezy [10:09] topyli: When i run Ubuntu update manager it asked for password? What should I do? [10:09] k-n if you need root access, you have to run 'sudo passwd root' at a terminal. [10:09] <|QuaD-> Burgundavia: IT DOESN"T WORK WELL ON DEBIAN BASED DISTRIBUTIONS. I AGREE. however, other distributions it works fine on [10:09] k-n, your password [10:09] <|QuaD-> like foresight [10:09] <|QuaD-> and i assume suse [10:09] k-n: it asks for "your password", no? [10:09] Burgundavia, problem is that i just downloaded wxpython, and i need to know what the name is to use in a terminal === k-n Trying.. === JCIE [JC@81-1-74-12.homechoice.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [10:09] revelater, wxpython is called by the program not you. You should just start the program and it should go to where it needs to go [10:10] topyli: Ok got it.. thanks === doko [~doko@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:10] mono [10:10] Why, oh why, will I be forced to ponder the matter of forcing screen res to 1152x864. [10:11] who's doing .net on linux? raise your hand [10:11] Burgundavia, python hasn't updated its version then... [10:11] Dreamer3_: LOLZ! [10:11] <|QuaD-> Dreamer3_: i am a big mono programme [10:11] <|QuaD-> r [10:11] <|QuaD-> or trying to be :) i hate gtk# [10:11] Scuddie: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? [10:11] or xserver-xfree86 for warty... [10:11] should try rubyonrails :) [10:12] I didn't know of that. Thanks for the pointer. [10:12] Ruby's a fun little language [10:12] I'm just learning it [10:13] For DVDs - apt-get install from the ubuntu guide came up empty. will this work? libdvdcss2_1.2.8-sarge0.0_i386.deb === HetIsLarsje [~ljansen@dyn24-eesi.nbw.tue.nl] has joined #ubuntu [10:14] Scuddie: check you refresh rates too, make sure they are right, googling 'xorg resolution problem' comes up with quite a bit of info [10:14] Ruby is cool - Lamppix includes it on their live CD [10:14] IIIEars, read www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats [10:14] can anyone help me ? i want to know how to open/close my ports, and i dont know the portnumber of FTP, HTTPd, Telnet, SSH, etc. === topgun [~laurent@bon13-1-82-232-114-153.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:14] anybody know why I get this "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! [10:14] gimp gimp-data libgimp2.0 gimp-python [10:14] Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? [10:14] " [10:14] IIIEars, don't install a sarge pakcage on debian [10:14] okay - Thanks [10:14] no /var/www ? that suck! === topgun [~laurent@bon13-1-82-232-114-153.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:14] quempion, by default, Ubuntu has no open ports [10:15] quempion: look at /etc/services [10:15] Salam everybody ... i would like to have some help on samba configurations while i can not login as root [10:16] do i have some help plz [10:16] Does anyone know how to compile packages for a different Architecture? [10:16] Deafcon: Ubuntu is not a server distro by default [10:16] Burgundavia: yeah, for example, i want to open the ssh. [10:16] i m newbie to ubunutoo ... so plz guide me abt that [10:16] xukun: I'm getting that also [10:16] topyli: oki thanks [10:16] quempion, insatll the package will do it [10:16] Alright, What's so good about this distro? [10:16] with different packages [10:17] Salam everybody ... i would like to have some help on samba configurations while i can not login as root [10:17] Deafcon, well set up desktop distro. One good program by default [10:17] megamind: you can get root access with sudo su [10:17] quempion: you talking about firewall? [10:17] Burgundavia: it's already installed. i type ssh and it's installed. [10:17] Deafcon: depends who you are and what you like I guess [10:17] megamind, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo [10:17] Do I want to use kernel framebuffer interface?? [10:17] liable: nono, just open ssh port for example, to join my pc remotely [10:17] quempion, there is ssh server and client === jacie [~john@81-1-74-12.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [10:17] like .. i want to confiugure the samba.conf file ... [10:17] Yeah well, i like fluxbox with some networking tools.. [10:18] so how do i do that while i can not change the file attibutes ... === dizzy [~dizzy@213.21.170.198] has joined #ubuntu [10:18] Deafcon: you can install those things [10:18] quempion: well, if you have ssh installed, it should be listening on that port, lsof -i [10:18] yes i can.. But no thanks.. I already have it.. === Lare2 [~carlos@cpe-24-174-250-203.stx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:18] like .. i want to confiugure the samba.conf file ... === doko [~doko@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:18] so how do i do that while i can not change the file attibutes ... === GuruFF [~GuruFF@081.ade0506.ade.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:18] rtfm - that helped - (grin) i even learned something about esd and laws in sweden - Thanks again :) [10:19] Deafcon: well, whatever works for you :) [10:19] This "ubuntu" distro kinda lame.. [10:19] Deafcon: read the hype, it's slick, nice debian desktop :) if that's not what you want don't go for it :) [10:19] megamind: on a console type sudo vim /etc/samba.conf [10:19] but it alright === jonathaN [jonathan@4-16-ftth.onsnet.nu] has joined #ubuntu [10:19] lo i need help with X, need to specify what font will menus use and generally what fot what uses... help [10:19] Burgundavia: oki thanks. can u help me to know, how to open/close ports?? === Lare2 is now known as lokot [10:19] yay, the default BitTorrent download GUI is very nice now [10:19] quempion, ports are opened by programs that get installed === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:20] I'm running ubuntu LiveCD right now.. Look same pretty much.. GNOME is not for me.. [10:20] thoreaputic_, Do I want to use kernel framebuffer device interface or not? What's default for ubuntu? [10:20] quempion, thus if you install ssh-server, it opens the ssh port (which is ucrrently escaping me) [10:20] Deafcon, to be honest, if you are here to flame, please leave [10:21] Scuddie: I think you can just accept the default for that or say no [10:21] Does it not matter for OpenGL? [10:21] Or at all? [10:21] Burgundavia: aah oki, thanks. and.. if i want to close SSH port por example ? === bendebian [~ben@port-212-202-181-244.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu [10:22] quempion: the ssh port is not open if you do not have the ssh server installed [10:22] quempion, it is not open [10:22] quempion, as nate said [10:22] Scuddie: that I don't know, sorry - you can go back and rerun the config if you have problems [10:23] alright, I'm boring here nothing is for me [10:24] Burgundavia: yeah i know, i install ssh-server. if i want to close ssh port, so, i must uninstall ssh-server ? [10:24] Scuddie, if I remember correctly default is No or at least recommended as the safest option [10:24] Deafcon: slackware perhaps? :) [10:24] quempion, you can set up iptables to block ssh === Sionide [~dragon@cpc4-hem12-6-0-cust227.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:24] Actually, I think it's default to yes, as you are allowed to login as different users independantly. [10:24] Burgundavia: okay, thanks too much man [10:24] quempion: iptables, or firestarter (easier) [10:24] So yes it is. === ironwolf_ [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:25] quempion: you can just stop the daemon if you want [10:26] quempion, np [10:26] Scuddie: you don't need framebuffer for multiple X sessions, actually [10:27] liable: sorry for too much questions.. but, how to do that? [10:27] quempion: /etc/init.d/sshd stop from the command line === maxrez [~maxrez@62.161.106.152] has joined #ubuntu === Tomcat_ [Tomcat@p54A1D5E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:31] OK, I've had my fun. [10:31] Now to see if I configured it right. === gorthaug [~gorthaug@12.Red-83-41-227.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:31] liable: thanks :)) [10:31] wenas [10:32] So, I quit everything, hit ctrl+alt+backspace, then what do I command to get gnome back up? [10:32] quempion: np [10:32] Scuddie, it will restart gdm (gnome login manager) automatically [10:32] Scuddie: will come back by itself if you have gdm [10:32] Scuddie: that should log you out and restart gdm [10:32] Burgundavia: you win [10:32] That didn't happen the last time I did it. [10:33] W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key [10:33] X just quit. [10:33] what can I do about this? [10:33] Scuddie, if the configuration file is hopped, it will not restart [10:33] Remenic, check you time, and make certain it is correct first [10:33] ok, and if it doesn't, do I just type gdm then? === johnnybezak [~johnnybez@203-173-28-121.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:34] Burgundavia: check. it's correct :) I even ntp updated it === xdkn [nameless@port-212-202-184-229.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu [10:34] Remenic, hmm, no idea then [10:34] hey guys anyone know a quick way to do a wordcount of a doc from the cli? [10:34] Scuddie: or type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [10:35] ok. I'll see if that works. [10:35] Scuddie: or just startx, for that matter, but that should start gnome directly === acidburn [~acidburn@adsl-68-127-139-13.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:35] johnnybezak, 'cat doc | wc' [10:35] hey people [10:35] johnnybezak: wc [10:35] Well, the last time I ran 'X' at console, I was just stuck there. So the sudo option would seem better. === eaon [~michael@p54886548.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [10:36] huh... 1st ubuntu server done :D [10:36] going to wash my mug :D [10:36] what kind of server is it? [10:36] morning [10:37] Burgundavia: another redundant use of "cat" :) [10:37] hmm, just to make sure.. [10:37] can anyone actually see me? [10:37] thoreauputic_, I like cats [10:37] hmmm no #ubuntu-ppc :/ [10:37] lol [10:37] acidburn, yes, we see you [10:37] ok, thanx [10:37] lol [10:37] eaon, norp, what is your question? [10:38] Burgundavia: how i can enable a right mouse click on a laptop that has only one mouse button ;) === ikaro [~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org] has joined #ubuntu [10:38] eaon, hmm [10:38] eaon, there is a way to map a button to right-click [10:38] eaon, but not owning a ppc, I canna tell ya [10:39] eaon: use F11 and F12 === Scuddie [~Scuddie@c-24-10-103-168.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:39] huh. one thought. i've got imap. great. i've got folders in imap. sound great. but - only MUAs are sorting mail. how to do "clickable" by "server-side"? w/ or w/o procmail... [10:39] Well, that didn't work. === forsaker [~forsaker@213-156-52-107.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:39] thanks - thoreauputic_, for the mapping? [10:39] Thanks for the help, though :) [10:39] eaon: it just works on my iBook [10:40] oh, ok [10:40] will try later :) [10:40] thanks [10:40] 'morning people [10:40] eaon: play with that and the Fn key if needed ( I don't think it is) === A_Alam [~a_alam@202.41.228.162] has joined #ubuntu === johnnybe1ak [~johnnybez@203-166-243-134.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:40] will do :) [10:40] acidburn: general prupose - web, email, gateway, some db, calendar. === ikaro [~ikaro@ikaro.fluxbox.org] has joined #ubuntu [10:41] what u using for calender? [10:41] hula? [10:41] postfix+tls+maildir+imap[s] /pop3[s] (courier)+webmail(squirrel) [10:41] or evolution.. [10:41] acidburn: squirrelmail calendar plugin ;P [10:42] oh [10:42] lol [10:42] Scuddie: what happened [10:42] acidburn: but i'm looking for something better. which could be used with Sunbird on server-side === eromb [~eromb@80-219-245-219.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === forsaker is now known as forsaker8k6 [10:43] hm. maybe i write some hoary-multipurpose-server-HOWTO... [10:43] if only my english isn't so bad :( [10:43] I'm still at 1024x768@70Hz === alindeman [adml@alindeman-gallery.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu === njan [~james@62-249-201-66.adsl.entanet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [10:44] Scuddie: is that refresh rate the best your monitor can do? [10:45] Scuddie: never used it and it looks scary, but have a look at xvidtune [10:45] when i open smb.conf file with sudo vim smb.conf ... it opens it for editing but i can not save changes that i have made ... how do i do that ? === hua [~hua@221.234.251.5] has joined #ubuntu === chaitatp [~chaitatp@gb.jb.170.107.revip.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu [10:45] it can do 75Hz at 1152x864 [10:45] megamind: type :wq [10:45] xvidtune? Why? [10:45] in the vim command line [10:45] I dont even have xvid installed. [10:45] like sudo vim smb.conf :wq ? [10:46] no i mean: [10:46] Scuddie: it appears to have options for tuning your display [10:46] open vim with sudo vim smb.conf [10:46] ok ... then [10:46] OK, I'll try that then. [10:46] press 'i' to enter edit mode and edit your file as you wish [10:46] xvidtune - video mode tuner for XFree86 [10:46] how do i save the work i have done ... [10:46] after you're finished editing [10:46] press escape [10:46] Scuddie: dunno if xorg has it [10:46] and them type :wq [10:47] oh ... let me try that plz ... [10:47] Oh... X vid tune :D [10:47] that stands for "write and quit" [10:47] yep [10:47] oh ... ok ... [10:48] :) === fazer [~fazer@CPE0050f276c615-CM0012c90fe42a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === cartman [~cartman@cartman.developer.konversation] has joined #ubuntu [10:48] is there a way to run 32 bit binaries on ubuntu amd64 ? === doko [~doko@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:49] cartman: you have to install a package named linux32 or similiar [10:49] forsaker8k6: what about 3rd party binaries? [10:49] and then run in the command line linux32 [10:49] ah [10:50] ok [10:51] humpf doesn't work [10:51] oucch === Epsiliando [~Epsiliand@200.52.217.92] has joined #ubuntu [10:51] what are you trying to run? [10:51] acroread [10:51] Acrobat7 [10:51] HI people! [10:51] how are you?? [10:52] quick poll.. which IRC client is everyone using? [10:52] acidburn: konversation [10:52] acidburn: xchat [10:52] forsaker8k6: looks like I am gonna be free software only except java ;) [10:52] acidburn: konversation [10:52] X-Chat [10:52] forsaker8k6: thanks for help [10:52] cartman: for java you can use blackdown jre [10:52] acidburn: use /client? [10:52] xchat [10:52] X-Chat; The best Linux has to offer... apparently :\ [10:52] forsaker8k6: yeah I know [10:53] Scuddie: check konversation ;) [10:53] or is it /version [10:53] yeah /version [10:53] laters === cartman [~cartman@cartman.developer.konversation] has left #ubuntu ["Ich] [10:54] Scuddie: some hardcore people would say irssi-text is the best Linux has to offer ;-) [10:54] how can i set X fonts some application use ? [10:54] seems XChat wins [10:54] lol [10:54] How can I make k3b burn audio CDs from mp3s? [10:54] This is downright confusing. === UsefulIdiot prefers irssi [10:54] What should I know about VSyncStart and VSyncEnd? === hno73 [~Henrik@henrik.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [10:55] acidburn: well, your poll is skewed - xchat is the ubuntu default :) [10:55] yea, true [10:55] lol [10:55] lol [10:56] Funny how I can change the frequency, but not the resolution. That is weird. [10:56] acidburn: on #slackware, admitting to using xchat would probably be heresy ;-) === BockBilbo [~BockBilbo@85.84.43.70] has joined #ubuntu === mjc [~mjc@c-66-176-195-87.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:58] Scuddie: some people have got higher resolution by changing from 24bit to 16bit, if you don't mind the lower number of colours: but don't ask me how it's done [10:58] wow: adobe released acrobat 7 4 linux... amazing [10:58] ages ago, forsaker8k6 :P [10:58] i'm not so up to date ;) [10:59] forsaker8k6, it's not so amazing [10:59] first its fast sure [10:59] but it's still butt ugly [10:59] UsefulIdiot: heh - ages as in weeks ;) [10:59] maybe photoshop's next :) [10:59] yes... xpdf still rocks [10:59] i don't know what toolkit they used, it looks like they used gtk .001 to code it in [10:59] secondly it doesn't even use native dialogs [10:59] thirdly it has a fucking ad banner [10:59] well the linux world moves fast, thoreauputic_ :) [11:00] UsefulIdiot: yes, I noticed that :) [11:00] there needs to be a high quality open source PDF reader [11:00] that would be great === RichiH [richih@richih.staff.freenode] has left #ubuntu [] [11:00] fourth it took them forever to release it, they don't give a crap about linux, company is now run by mba's that only care about their lear jets, they have no passion for technology [11:00] acidburn, there is [11:00] don't pdf's open in openoffice ?? [11:00] Sionide: nope [11:00] I used to like gpdf, haven't used it in yonks now [11:00] no, openoffice only exports [11:00] no [11:00] seeing as you can save to pdf [11:00] xpdf with a nicer interface [11:00] oo.o exports then [11:00] hm that's weird [11:01] yea [11:01] shit what is that great pdf viewer ... lemme get the name for ya [11:01] acidburn: evince is new [11:01] evince [11:01] its beautiful [11:01] it selects text, and has a search feature [11:01] evince... never heard about [11:01] super fast, starts instantly [11:01] Oh well, I suppose I dont need 1152 resolution. I'll just set the DPI to 80 [11:01] what select tests??? it will be mine: now [11:01] and itdoesn't support pdf forms which i love, pdf is not a goddamned databse [11:02] you can actually open pdf in koffice, too [11:02] yea, i've never heard about evince either [11:02] seraching now... [11:02] ;) [11:02] installed ;) [11:02] lol [11:03] i love synaptic [11:03] quick and easy [11:03] i love apt :D [11:03] "" synaptic is great === Elyseum [~Elyseum@d5153EF05.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [11:03] well, same thing [11:03] quick? pfft.. faster using apt-get [11:03] yea [11:03] yep [11:03] no GUI to handle [11:04] mm.. about evince: it doesn't seem to be so different to gpdf or similiars === libpng [~png@dsl81-215-13637.adsl.ttnet.net.tr] has joined #ubuntu [11:04] and most of all: i continue not being able to selct text [11:05] well, evince is certainly faster then [k, g, x] pdf [11:05] mmm.. maybe.. but... but... i DO need a client that lets me select text [11:06] maybe i'll right one [11:06] ;) [11:06] j/k [11:06] *write [11:06] oops [11:06] ;) [11:06] which package do I need to install to spell check thunderbird? [11:06] asd [11:06] forsaker8k6, evince is built on a new framework for pdf, one that uses a common backend for it and kpdf [11:06] dutch is the language I need [11:07] hey guys anyone know a quick way to do a wordcount of a doc from the cli? [11:07] acidburn: an example of right being wrong! [11:07] Burgundavia: mmm.. i see [11:07] lol [11:07] from a doc? why are you using doc? [11:07] forsaker8k6, the backend is called libpoppler, it is a freedesktop.org project [11:07] johnnybe1ak: 2 people already gave you an answer [11:08] a friend of mine named a computer of his down [11:08] so he could say down is up today [11:08] yes i noticed apt installed it before evince [11:08] lol [11:08] johnnybe1ak, 'wc doc' [11:08] johnnybe1ak: man wc [11:08] how do start and stop the samba server services ? [11:08] oh, a plain text file.. [11:08] thoreauputic_: sorry man for some reason irssi died on me i couldnt see any answers [11:09] ah I see [11:09] megamind, /etc/init.d/smb {start|stop|restart} [11:09] ;) [11:09] :) === ikama [~ikama@p5081B09A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:09] thanks a lot ... let me try === Elyseum [~Elyseum@d5153EF05.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [11:09] is there a GUI interface for configing samba printers? [11:10] i'm just trying to do all of my document creation w/out using a word processor [11:10] thanks for your help guys [11:10] Hrmmm... [11:10] i guess i could edit the config file.. [11:10] I wonder, what would be a good way to re-map OSS to ESD === zapanz [sldld@c-feede253.15-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu === shock [~shockwave@p548935F0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:11] well, it's time to go back to my studies: c u people! [11:11] Since apparently ubuntu doesn't like anything but ESD [11:11] Scuddie: gnome-sound-properties perhaps [11:12] who's installed 5.04 final yet? [11:12] besides me ;) [11:12] me === UsefulIdiot has [11:12] acidburn: just about everyone except me :) [11:13] lol [11:13] gnome-sound-properties doesn't really do anything :\ [11:13] Does anybody have also probs to install mplayer [11:13] Scuddie: true, I just looked and I agree :( [11:13] Scuddie: having problems with alsa? [11:13] The rep is not ok in nerim? === doogxela [~alex@adsl-67-38-40-38.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:14] /etc/init.d/smb not working man ... :( [11:14] ?? [11:14] Alsa doesn't like me, OSS reports everything as being busy, and ESD gives me everything I will ever need. [11:14] What repo do you use for mlplayer [11:14] I dont have the correct language if I want to spell check i thurnderbird [11:14] ikama: I think mplayer is in multiverse for hoary now [11:14] megamind: type ps -e, find the samba process, and kill it === Kal_Zakath [~Kal_Zakat@213.219.185.78.adslpower.by.edpnet.be] has joined #ubuntu [11:14] j/k [11:14] hi [11:14] Also, I don't know how to use Alsa. [11:15] and then how do i start the process again ?? [11:15] lol, i was kidding [11:15] does anybody know when there will be a security update for firefox ? 9 vulnerabilties have been discovered 2 days ago [11:15] i've never had the problem [11:15] Kal_Zakath, should be soon [11:15] in etc/init.d/ there is a green file with name samba [11:16] megamind, that would be it [11:16] megamind: try hitting tab after /etc/init.d/sam and see if it completes to smbd or something (I don't use samba) [11:16] now if i m in the folder etc/init.d/ === herzi [~herzi@c208194.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu [11:16] you could uninstall/reinstall whenever you need/don't need it [11:16] do i need to write samba start ... ? [11:16] Burgundavia: that's really urgent, firefox update is avariable since 2 days too at mozilla [11:16] bu that might be to inconvienient [11:16] if you need to turn it on/off a lot [11:16] megamind, best to still run the full path [11:16] possibly - try it [11:17] <\sh> ok...debootstraping ubuntu on gentoo [11:17] Kal_Zakath, it will come when it will come [11:17] huh [11:17] that something essantial [11:17] <\sh> after playing around with debian version, i had to replace it with the ubuntu version of debootstrap [11:17] well, I hope it'll come in a few hour === krrh [~chatzilla@ip68-103-136-171.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:17] So who wants to help me figure out how alsa works? === zzyber [~andreb@h183n6c1o260.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:18] Kal_Zakath: you are confusing security patches of existing versions with new versions, perhaps [11:18] Kal_Zakath: it has a few security fixes [11:18] 9 i think [11:18] ok thanks i successfully started and stopped the samba ... [11:18] yea, 9 [11:18] so nice of u [11:18] but they aren't to major [11:19] When I try to enter my networking information via iwconfig, the essid, key, etc doesn't "stick." I type "iwconfig," and it reports no essid, etc. Anyone know why this might be? [11:19] thoreauputic_: well, There is 9 security flaws that have been discovered 2 days ago, with the 9, 3 are criticals [11:19] so I think it maybe deserve a security update :/ [11:19] Kal_Zakath: yeah, I know [11:19] can someone tell me how to read eml files in linux. I have a couple of emails saved from windows and the format is .eml Evolution cant import them so im stuck, read something about kmail but hopfully there is a simplier solution === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:20] Are the iwconfig-entered variables supposed to be stored somewhere other than /etc/network/interfaces? [11:20] cant aint nobody wont? [11:20] krrh, they aren't stored, only in memory === cafuego [~cafuego@macchiato.cc.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === doogxela [~alex@adsl-67-38-40-38.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu [] === Kal_Zakath [~Kal_Zakat@213.219.185.78.adslpower.by.edpnet.be] has left #ubuntu [] [11:21] Ahh. And does this information override what might be entered in /etc/network/interfaces? [11:21] krrh, i think so [11:21] errr... I mean how do I route external calls to OSS to ESD? [11:22] And how is alsa involved? [11:22] has anyone seen the new firefox ad/poster? [11:22] Thanks. [11:22] always use protection.. [11:22] ... use ubuntu [11:22] hey that could be a pretty darn good slogan [11:22] :) [11:22] lol [11:23] the firefox ad is good though. lemme get the link.. [11:23] *rummages* [11:23] Scuddie: alsa seems pretty arcane - if crimsun was here he could help you, but he's probably asleep [11:23] *shuffle* *shuffle* [11:23] http://www.factorycity.net/sfx/always_use_protection.jpg [11:23] oh hey, i installed an amd64 system (winxp, ew i know) for someone over the weekend.... [11:23] yea [11:23] lol [11:23] openoffice 1.3 just bloody rocks on that [11:24] All I want to do is play FS2Open, but I can't because OSS is always busy :( [11:24] believe it or not it actually starts reasonable, and works great :) hehe === zoppy [~zoppy@AMontsouris-152-1-18-156.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:24] Hi [11:24] No. [11:24] I have installed last ubuntu === mjc wrestles with ldap stuff [11:24] winxp? - only took one weekend to install setup + apps and harden? - lol i'll bet you aren't finished yet. [11:25] i have configured the samba .... but when i open it in windows .. it asks for user name ... [11:25] IIIEars, hahaha, funny you say that [11:25] i got a call today [11:25] but when I boot it stops about 2 minutes at Starting Ubuntu .... [11:25] and i expect more calls over the week [11:25] i give out the user but it do not accepts ? [11:25] i have configured the samba .... but when i open it in windows .. it asks for user name ... [11:25] i give out the user but it do not accepts ? [11:25] no actually, to install xp is a mofo load of work, funny IIIEars :) [11:25] I have run in recovery mode and I see dma error [11:25] IIIEars, every xp user has their own 'personal mix' of spyware they want on there [11:25] how to disable DMA when I boot with grub ? === prego [~prego@28.Red-213-97-37.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:26] this idiot wanted limewire installed and working *sigh* and some other crap he has no clue how to use but 'must have' [11:26] idiots [11:26] i have configured the samba .... but when i open it in windows .. it asks for user name ... [11:26] i give out the user but it do not accepts ? === neofeed [~moritz@pD95758B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === Scuddie shouts to the sky, abusing it and asking why OSS must always be busy [11:26] Oh well... === ptlo [~senko@darguner.rdlab.carnet.hr] has joined #ubuntu === pirate [~lettuce@rrba-146-77-42.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [11:27] megamind: that's 3 times in 2 minutes - do you think we can't read? [11:27] sorry ... [11:27] megamind, afaik, samba and linux require different password mechanisms. Try using something like smbpasswd to setup user password in the samba side [11:27] why do u get so angry ... [11:27] i have new respect for linux after opening a folder filled with junk i got p2p on windows - there were quite a few *surprise* additions that windows never sees. - wide grin [11:27] megamind: repeating won't help if no one has an answer [11:27] oh ... OK .. thanks ... [11:28] what is the point of alternate data streams in windows? [11:28] Uh oh... [11:29] I just lost my mouse. [11:29] I've been installing ubuntu to a friend of mine, and after a rather sucessful installation I have a couple of concerns. First of all, he uses DSL provider with dynamic ip address... and I want to perform admin tasks remotely. How can I manage to know which is his IP? === GNAM [~Navarro@natpool-1-18.pd.astro.it] has joined #ubuntu [11:29] And I'm stuck in 640x480 mode. [11:29] a free dynamic dns service there are several [11:29] any idea ? [11:29] IIIEars, rofl [11:29] prego: ez-ipupdate and visit dyndns.org [11:30] Perhaps launching FS2Open was a bad idea. [11:30] thoreauputic_, thanks very much [11:30] install a dynamic dns client [11:30] yes ... free dynamic dns like www.deerfield.com ... and www.no-ip.com [11:30] prego: no worries :) === gaio [~gaio@213-140-22-71.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:30] crud, I blew it. [11:31] My second concern is that he is using a usb modem, that works with eagle-usb-* packages... however I've not managed to make it work at boot up... anyone with a similar modem has succeeded here around? [11:31] Let's try this again. [11:31] I can make the thing work after some sudo commands, but I wish to leave it working without user interation. He is a real newbie afterall === phoenix_atlantis [~Phoenix@atlantis.dolphins.ch] has joined #ubuntu [11:33] a pci network interface card isnt very expensive most DSL modems support ethernet cat5 cables [11:33] prego: can you write a little script and link it to a pretty icon on his desktop? === RexM is now known as RexM|Asleep [11:33] IIIEars, infact less expensive than usb cables per foot [11:33] prego: then he can just click to go on line [11:33] thoreauputic_, more or less is what I've done. However it requires sudo ... [11:33] plus cat5 has a 300m range, usb has 12 feet or something stupid like that [11:34] thoreauputic_, is there a way I can prompt for sudo password via GTK dialog or something? [11:34] DSL ANTs are a pain they are forever reclaiming IP addresses forcing a reset. [11:34] prego: use gksudo as a password dialog [11:34] <\sh> right...i have my base system [11:34] its retarded to use usb modems in other workds [11:34] thoreauputic_, OK, I'll check those posibilities, thanks again ;-)))) [11:35] thoreauputic_, I would invite you an expresso coffe ;-) [11:35] Selinux in the next Ubuntu release? [11:35] prego: I love espresso coffee :) [11:35] does anyone know which package contains the 'gnome-config' command? === indypende [~indypende@d81-211-221-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu [11:36] Huey, doesn't exist on my machine [11:36] Burgundavia: it doesn't exist on my machine either. that's the problem. [11:36] Burgundavia: i want to know what i should install in order to get that command [11:37] Huey, what are you trying to do? [11:37] because a tutorial on writing gnome-panel applets requires it [11:37] ahh [11:37] prob. a -dev package [11:38] Oops. (preparing to be flamed or ignored or both) - can i add a "search" function to a window title bar? (cowers in fear) [11:38] <\sh> guys...linux-headers-2.6.10-5-k7 is it for athlon-xps? [11:38] *ignores IIIEars* [11:38] ;) [11:38] IIIEars: be afraid! be very afraid! [11:38] hehe === mz2 [~mz2@81-1-67-97.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === thoreauputic_ puts on his #debian hat and makes scornful arrogant noises [11:39] lol thoreauputic_ === dizzy [~dizzy@213.21.170.198] has joined #ubuntu === ricardo_ [~ricardo@ALamentin-101-1-10-185.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === mischa [~mischa@193.172.234.132] has joined #ubuntu [11:39] don't give em a bad rap, its just like 4 idiots in that channel :) hehe [11:40] (clutches his furry kitty tightly and begins to pray quietly) [11:40] all 4 were clearly dropped on their heads [11:40] lol [11:40] does anyone know how to load the firmware of my pris54g wireless pcmcia card.... [11:40] mischa, yes [11:40] aha [11:40] www.prims54.org [11:40] download from dl section === fazer_ [~fazer@CPE0050f276c615-CM0012c90fe42a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:41] put in the place they tell you to [11:41] rename file to right extension [11:41] How good is the ppc support? any problems on powerbooks? [11:41] iwconfig eth0 up or something like that [11:41] done [11:41] for ubuntu, I mean [11:41] UsefulIdiot, i don't see anyone complaining in here, i remember a few saying 'yay works out of the box' sorta thing [11:41] holycow:tanx [11:41] check ubuntu.com [11:41] mischa, no worries [11:42] UsefulIdiot, errr... check bugtraker on ubuntu site rather === Insom [~chatzilla@as11-m52.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu [11:42] UsefulIdiot, from what I understand, things taht work generally in linux will work on Ubuntu [11:42] Does wireless networking work? [11:43] thoreauputic_, my friend is really impressed right now. He'll be much happier soon ;-) [11:43] and does it duel boot properly, or overwrite os x ? [11:43] UsefulIdiot: no support for airport extreme or internal modem [11:43] apple is not exactly open source friendly [11:43] they love it when they can 'take' [11:43] holycow, apple is sort of open source friendly [11:43] they don't have any particular fascination with 'ethics' and 'reciprocity' === odyssey [~mAT@222-152-115-39.adsl.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [11:44] holycow, they do pay money for darwin development [11:44] lol Burgundavia one way only === odyssey [~mAT@222-152-115-39.adsl.ihug.co.nz] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:44] (_)8(_)|\|7(_) |2(_)|_~/_ 4|_|_ [)157|20~/_ [11:44] UsefulIdiot: everything else works fine on my iBook G4 (oh, sleep is a problem too) [11:44] i have yet to see somethign as trivial as quicktime on linux === Arago [~Arago@host17-73.pool8174.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [11:44] or bsd even [11:44] holycow, there are different levels of support. They do support some stuff but not the desktop stuff [11:44] and if there was, you could bet it would be 12 months behind the 'mac' version [11:45] holycow: funnily enough, vlc works better than quicktime on OS-X [11:45] Burgundavia, really? heh, i just don't see much beyond khtml stuff, okay darwin stuff sure [11:45] what do you think is the greatest thing blocking Linux from taking over the desktop? [11:45] its certainly better then windows.. [11:45] holycow, apple does stuff behind the scenese [11:45] thoreauputic_, didn't know :) been meaning to to buy a mac mini just so that i get some experience [11:45] Is possible use hoary live cd to test hibernation/resume <' [11:46] hardware and directx? [11:46] driver support === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu [11:46] Burgundavia, really? okay good to hear, they need to advertise it more [11:46] Arago: yes, i've done it [11:46] holycow, hmm, had a talk from terrasoft at my lug the other day [11:46] Burgundavia, yeah? [11:46] acidburn, how ? [11:46] holycow: when I'm feeling evil, I run Windows Medi Player for Mac in Mac-on-Linux, on Ubuntu, and laugh maniacally :) [11:46] holycow, twas interesting [11:47] Burgundavia, i don't want them to share 'their stuff' [11:47] holycow, IBM is also doing a lot regarding power [11:47] acidburn that greatest problem linux faces in taking over the desktop is people who won't give up windows. [11:47] i think that there are some naturaly co-operation points [11:47] lol [11:47] quicktime is one just for the hell of it, [11:47] pouting some cash into open office port would be another [11:47] Can I place system-wide gnome themes at /usr/local/... or do they need to be at /usr/share/...? [11:47] Burgundavia, ibm is on my good list these days :) i'm pleasantly surprised how they 'get it' [11:48] holycow, openoffice is not in their financial best interest, but this talk is not really relevant to #ubuntu [11:48] when asked to comment on sco bashing the open source / libre communities, they basically said, 'we don't need to say anything, they can handle them selves' [11:48] that level of understanding is most impressive [11:48] nah Ubuntu convinced me there is no need for windows on the 'net (hardware recognized first time) - only directx gaming keeps me from pitching windows entirely [11:48] Burgundavia, true, but oo.o really is in their self interest, oo ads huge value immediately [11:49] prego: /usr/share I'd say [11:49] for infact miniscule dev costs to them [11:49] acidburn, how make live hibernation working ( or try it ?). Or show me a link for it [11:49] they can offer it FREE, and tell everyone their macs COME WITH a full office suite for free [11:49] prego: that's where they seem to live... [11:49] thats huge [11:49] i don't have a link === touffi [~vincent@AOrleans-206-1-11-175.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:49] i just tried it, and it worked [11:49] lol [11:49] uhm ok [11:50] thoreauputic_, yes, but I would rather place at /usr/local/share... the ones I download as tar.gz ... not to forget they don't come from a deb file [11:50] holycow, but they want to sell words and appleworks [11:50] Burgundavia, perhaps i should focus my opinions more to productive 'pro co-operative' activites, i'd love to see what they have to say [11:50] Burgundavia, well thats just stupid, thats a lot of dev costs, lots. [11:50] prego: up to you - you might need to link them to make them system wide [11:50] they make little money on software, they are a hardware co [11:50] i think that gaming is a reason for the more tech-literate people to not switch to windows. they want to, but it doesn't support the major games [11:51] holycow, I am not saying that apple is a complete friend of OSS, but they are not the enemy that MS is [11:51] even tho i hear very good things about appleworks === CellarDoor [~CellarDoo@d220-237-216-177.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:51] if game developers started programming for linux.. [11:51] Burgundavia, oh i agree very very much with you there *nod* [11:51] acidburn, in due time, it will come [11:51] yea, eventually [11:51] prego: if there's only a small number of users, ~/.themes works fine [11:51] acidburn, i cen see the potential starting to build slowly [11:51] thoreauputic_, that is a good idea! so the fact of coming from tar.gz is retained somehow :-) [11:52] acidburn, it's okay, we don't necessarily want all the ms crowd to come here simultaneously [11:52] Planeshift looks ok, but development is slow [11:52] true enough - the unreal series is huge and it has linux support in each box. === queuetue [~Scott@h69-21-252-54.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:52] hmm... that might not be the right dir though... hang on [11:52] Has anyone gotten dual-head working with a PCIE NVidia card? [11:52] acidburn, i think we need a free 'educational' infrastructure to let people 'fit into the open source clothes' intelligently, they all neeed (and even want but don't know where to get) proper training [11:53] thoreauputic_, works, as expected ;-) [11:53] holycow: we have it, its called google :) === jubei [~jubei@ppp139-170.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu === prego loves clearlooks, but also loves bluecurve colors... [11:53] queuetue, i have once, but i'm only saying that to encourage you that it can be done :) i just can't offer any usefull help on it [11:53] prego: yup, .themes is right :) [11:53] holycow - training? bah they don't want training they want working hardware and thier favorite apps [11:54] queuetue, basically you need a 'good' xfree config file and change the pci addresses of your cards === mario_ [~mario@209-181-122-56.tcsn.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu === fuoco [~gad@80.179.76.59] has joined #ubuntu [11:54] anyone knows what gcc is used to compile ubuntu? [11:54] i think some company thats small right now or doesn't even exist yet is going to surpass google [11:54] hello room... can anyone help me with adding marillat repositories - I'm a bit new with this (former Mdk user :P) [11:54] not having a difficult install is half the battle. [11:54] just like google surpassed yahoo, etc [11:54] thoreauputic_, I've placed it at /usr/local/share/themes/Clearlooks-Bluecurve and linked it to /usr/share/themes/. so it works for every user, and I can see that it is set by hand since the actual location is /usr/local/... [11:54] queuetue, all the xfree config files i found online tho are highly hacked, and don't look anything like the ones in debian/ubuntu, so it's hard to kinda work them backwards, into something that you can read, but ... [11:55] prego: fair enough :) [11:55] liable, lol, true, it would be faster with a website that has say, firefox tutorials, open offce tutorials, basic system operation - ubuntu, basic security, basic network (just show them how the gui info relates say to a visual diagram), stuff like that [11:56] liable, but you are right, if they can't figure it out through google, maybe it is a lost cause [11:56] IIIEars, and favourite spyware, lol [11:56] hehe - maybe.. - grin [11:56] IIIEars, it's funny how, "persistence of belief" plays in human behaviour, my self also [11:56] once they buy into an idea, you'll have a hell of a time changing them [11:57] maybe we should focus on appealing to kids [11:57] if open source got more entrenched in governmental and educational institutions, it would be a good start [11:57] I'm supposed to find the marillat section in my sources list but there wasn't one... I tried adding it but still no marillat, can anyone help ? [11:57] CellarDoor: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats << section on Marillat repos there [11:57] of course, thats already happpening [11:57] aw geez you said the "S" word - spend at least 2 hours everyother week reinstalling some windows app that has been corrupted. - [11:57] CellarDoor: see above [11:57] acidburn, *nod* yes, i'm switching our company to debian/ubuntu [11:58] np thanks looking [11:58] windows is just too much to keep working [11:58] little by litte, just need to keep in mind that it's not a race, it makes no difference if anyone uses linux or not, debian/ubuntu and the like are here forever [11:58] i actually run a tech company with my cousin.. [11:58] pretty small now.. [11:58] but anyway.. [11:58] holycow: done all instuctions...but still he doesn't load the firmware....any clues... [11:59] we've switched over to ubuntu [11:59] on the desktop [11:59] and the restore feature is useless - coopted by virii on first contact with the 'net. - i was thrilled when a friend told me about disk imaging. [11:59] lsmod doesn't show your module? [11:59] we had SuSE on there, but i never really liked it [11:59] modprobe whatever54 returns what error? [11:59] holycow: he does load the prism driver, just not the firmware... [11:59] acidburn, lol i ran suse for 2 years, rpm hell, my god i'm never touching that again [12:00] acidburn, I like SuSE, but Ubuntu feels faster [12:00] mischa, what error message? [12:00] holycow: prism loads with no errors [12:00] i don't like any commercial distros, and not just because they are commercial [12:00] mischa, did you rename it to the RIGHT name? [12:00] i made that mistake at first too [12:00] acidburn, exactly, has nothin to do with being commercial, just the result they end up with [12:01] holycow: pci.agent[23298] : prism54: loaded successfully [12:01] yep [12:01] holycow:/usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/isl3890 [12:01] holycow, I'm movng a good dual-head xorg.cong to this system - what are the orper PCI settngs? (I tries PCI:5:0:0 and PCI:5:0:1 - no go.) [12:01] mischa, tripple check the name of the driver, make sure its renamed to the right name [12:01] holycow:ok [12:02] its ok for a company to sponsor a distro, a.k.a Canonical. but when they start to customize it this way and that way, etc etc [12:02] holycow:it is the right name [12:02] acidburn, I've only used commercial distros until now... well at the very beginning I used slackware, then RH4.1, ... to RH9, SuSE 9.1 and now I feel hapier with ubuntu. [12:02] queuetue, i cannot remember how to get those apps, i ran some kind of command that got me back some kind of address i had to convert to the correct setings up there ... unfortunately that part you will haveto google === Arago [~Arago@host17-73.pool8174.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === pirate [~lettuce@rrba-146-77-42.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:02] mischa, so how do you know they aren't loaded then? your message says nothing about not loading firmware [12:03] mischa, if i remember correctly, the error message i got at first was 'firmware not found' or something like that... when the message dissapears firmware is being loaded and you get the message you posted [12:03] Ubuntu is terrific [12:03] Ubuntu is perfect for the desktop.. [12:04] IIIEars, give some thx to gnome2.10, there are huge usability features in there as well [12:04] being based on Debian is a good "feature" as well [12:04] the places dialog is brilliant imho [12:04] *nod* yeah, my main reason for using it infact [12:04] its already top at distrowatch, and Kubuntu is 30th already [12:04] hmmm [12:05] Free BSD was my last try at linux spent nearly a week before all of my hardware worked. [12:05] should there have been new updates to hoary since it's release? [12:05] holycow: :) nice one, but when i give the card to friend and he puts it in and it say....io kernel: eth2: uploading firmware... [12:05] acidburn, just goes to show how much 'demand' there is for a debian time based desktop ... despite varioius ornery dd's opinion to the contrary [12:05] I'm wondering if my repositories listings are ok [12:05] holycow: but that is a mandrake machine....:) [12:05] anxiously awaiting Ubuntu selinux [12:05] IIIEars: the BSD guys won't thank you for calling it Linux :) [12:06] holycow: so how do i know it is or isn't loaded :) [12:06] Myrtti, I have the same feeling. [12:06] *BSD != Linux [12:06] mischa, well this is ubuntu so ... :) tell him to install ubuntu, my mandrake experience was nothing but endless broken stuff [12:06] how long do you think it'll take until there are only a few more ditros, and what will they be? [12:06] distros* [12:06] well, desktop distros [12:06] mischa, on unix like systems the philosophy if is 'if everything works okay, don't say anything, if something goes wrong throw an error' [12:06] honestly i understand the berkley os isn't linus's work. Ubuntu just works what else matters? [12:06] specialty doesn't count === raghu [~raghu@203.145.183.210] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] acidburn: Xubuntu maybe (xfce) ? [12:07] lol [12:07] mischa, it keeps things nice and clean, verbosity is only necessary when your solving problems, and really thats why you have logs [12:07] Ubuntux [12:07] IIIEars, well philosophy matters imho [12:07] queuetue: especially I'm wondering should there be an update for Firefox as it has a security hole [12:07] Ubuntu for desktop, Debian/Red Hat for server [12:08] holycow: he has got ubuntu at home... [12:08] hopefully Debian ;) [12:08] IIIEars, life isn't about walking around like a retard and 'buying happiness' it's actually thinking about things :) === BuffaloSoldier [~stampede@60.48.222.110] has joined #ubuntu [12:08] mischa, well if the card works for you, then it works on ALL linux [12:08] mischa, infact the same prism instructions will work on mandrake, suse, redhat, etc. === fuoco [~gad@80.179.76.59] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:09] he has to make sure to use the right version of course, double check mandrake forums for any weird issues (library incompatabilities, etc.) [12:09] (uhoh in trouble again) i am sorry. [12:09] mischa, no different than say finding the right windows software [12:09] holycow: ok, tanx for the advice... === duken_ [~duken@69.88.24.195] has joined #ubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] If it catches mice it doesn't matter what color the cat is... [12:10] holycow: i am using 'NetApplet 0.98.0' to switch between networks === mischa [~mischa@193.172.234.132] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:10] no worries :) i'm a little over energized for some reason now [12:10] heh === ogb [~ogb@dsl-084-057-129-186.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] > Merge the archive key for debian-marillat into your default user's keyring. If successful, the gpg process will report 'key 1F41B907: public key... === Cym [~zero@dialup-4.246.248.137.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] oh poop [12:10] sorry === thoreauputic_ hands IIIEars a pair of feet to put in his mouth ;-) [12:10] thanks i'll need a spare. - grin [12:10] has anyone setup a postfix relay to gmail using tls? [12:11] thanks thoreauputic_ I seem to be making progress, but I don't understand the bit about merging the archive key so I don't get errors [12:11] :) === mischa [~mischa@193.172.234.132] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] CellarDoor: hmm - it isn't really needed if you don't mind the warnings === queuetue [~Scott@h69-21-252-54.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] i got it working, but i want to fix this cert validation error [12:11] does anyone know how to setup a quota for postfix? [12:11] yeh It would be nice to get rid of em [12:12] certificate verification failed for gmail-smtp.l.google.com: num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate [12:12] certificate verification failed for gmail-smtp.l.google.com: num=27:certificate not trusted [12:12] certificate verification failed for gmail-smtp.l.google.com: num=21:unable to verify the first certificate [12:12] helo [12:12] or a link explaining it [12:12] any way to fix that without having to create a tunnel and connect to 465? [12:13] holycow: i am using NetApplet 0.98.0 , ill remove that tool and try it by hand first... [12:13] does that error have anything to do with not having the right cert in /etc/ssl/certs ? [12:13] mischa, i've yet to find a wireless switcher i like, but i don't have a lot of wireless experience the lappy sits mostly in its case === nullaresnata [~henriquem@cb-217-129-175-184.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu [12:15] holycow:aha...batteries are dead....mine to, after two year i have 15mins on two batteries :) [12:15] lol 'xactly' :) [12:15] i don't see the point of laptops frankly [12:15] i never work on the beach [12:15] lol === tck_ [~tck@213-202-176-119.bas504.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:15] if i did i would be the only retard there doing so [12:15] lol [12:15] lol [12:16] my company's working on a Linux laptop [12:16] should be cool when its done, lol [12:16] which company is that? [12:16] well, its not incorporated yet [12:16] *embarrased* [12:16] lol [12:16] fair enough [12:16] acidburn, will you offer those laptops in europe? [12:16] holycow: i am configuring it now....my network will drop....ill call in later...ok... [12:16] lol [12:17] i have instaled wxpython, boa-constructor, whereis the menus? [12:17] not at first [12:17] plan to though === jacie [~john@81-1-74-12.homechoice.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:17] mischa, later [12:17] <\sh> guys, i'm ready to rumbel...base ubuntu + sshd is at start..kernel for ubuntu is ready to start, grub updated to 0.96 for boot once functionality === jcie [~john@81-1-74-12.homechoice.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] <\sh> if this is working, then swapping gentoo to ubuntu is working === VVeIrD [~vveird@port-212-202-9-9.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] <\sh> remotely === AirWays [~airways@a81-197-7-118.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu === \sh goes nuts ;) [12:19] we've already got an angel investor.. === queuetue [~Scott@h69-21-252-54.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] <\sh> later dudes..reboot === corp [~joshua@106.Red-83-34-155.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:20] Ok, where do I put this line in synaptic ? "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main" I really wanna get this repository working tonight [12:20] lol that's an interesting way to switch distros [12:20] any reason why i can't control the volume level? [12:20] CellarDoor, /etc/apt/sources.list [12:20] just add it at the end [12:20] it's either on or off... [12:20] oh ok thanks holycow === jcie [~john@81-1-74-12.homechoice.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [12:21] :) [12:21] deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main [12:21] should look like that tho [12:21] i think [12:21] oh right you got it right first time [12:21] haha === hmm [~knoppix@S0106000f3d5ae683.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] CellarDoor: might be easier to do " sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list " , add the line at the bottom of the file, save, exit, and do " sudo apt-get update" [12:21] :P [12:21] i need to actually read peoples posts i think :) === hmm asks if I want to tar a partition and preserve file attributes, what command line parameters would you recomment I use [12:21] yeah [12:22] CellarDoor: You could also put it into synaptic's Repositories dialog. [12:22] hmm: man tar [12:22] resiak, synaptic has a repositories dialog? [12:22] resiak: I wouldn't be asking if I could figure out which one [12:22] i had no idea [12:22] cool! [12:22] hmm: -a maybe [12:22] man is not beinghelpful to me today [12:23] does postfix have quota support be default in Ubuntu? [12:23] ha! wow cool, that actually looks terrific [12:23] by* [12:23] holycow: My version does... [12:23] acidburn, what version of postfix are you using [12:23] the one that comes with Ubuntu [12:23] lol [12:24] do you build it from apt-source? === oz__ [~oz@c211-30-37-88.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === thoreauputic_ looks at his lag and sighs [12:24] no, the binary [12:24] 2.1.5-9 [12:25] ahh 2.2.2-1 is out in unstable [12:25] but the package rules are fubar [12:25] tar -cvvf doesn't preserv permissions [12:25] alot more features b/n 2.1.5 and 2.2.2 [12:26] just took me a few days to read the new manual.. tlsmgr does not use fifos.. fyi heh === Scuddie [~Scuddie@c-24-10-103-168.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:27] Ok, nearly there, I'm getting this error: W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 It'd be nice to get rid of this error, can I do that from the command line ? I'm finding working from the command line actually a bit simpler than synaptic :P === HetIsLarsje [~ljansen@dyn24-eesi.nbw.tue.nl] has left #ubuntu [] [12:27] my dumb isp decided i was not able to handle a mail server so they decided to block my outgoing smtp port [12:28] but i just relayed it back to gmail on ssh [12:28] has anyone heard of YesLinux, and do you think it's a good server distro? === bet0x [~barrahome@200.117.221.188] has joined #Ubuntu === _bluepris [~na@85.218.138.175] has joined #ubuntu [12:29] I'm finding it a bit easier to understand the principles at work here just using the command line and gedit... any help on my last post ? pweeese I'm nearly finished :P [12:29] Any know how to install bootsplash on Ubuntu? [12:29] i think debian just had a new "pre" release (still working on woody lol) [12:29] i want a "graphic" console without X :) [12:30] just remove X and the desktop [12:30] betox you need to patch the kernel [12:30] but [12:30] bet0x, please wait [12:30] there is a bootsplash being created that is in user space === GNAM [~Navarro@natpool-1-18.pd.astro.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] that means no kernel patching and it should have cool things like dbus [12:30] CellarDoor, there is something on www.ubuntuguide.org [12:31] holycow, yes, i want have a bootsplash console like "G" === ogb is now known as ogb|mampf [12:31] holycow, lile Gentoo [12:32] but on my Hoary =) [12:32] yeah, just wait until usplash is ready, it's just the right way to do it [12:32] i see info about "Splashy" === balor [~balor@193.62.183.62] has joined #ubuntu [12:32] it's being worked on by redhat as well as debian ... so there is no doubt in my mind everyone will end up using it [12:32] postgresql or mysql? [12:32] holycow, what is usplash ? [12:32] what i just told you [12:33] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/USplash [12:33] success ! [12:33] I'll worry about the error message later :P === hmm sighs === hmm root@2[hda6] # tar -cvvf -p -r prince.tar prince === corp [~joshua@106.Red-83-34-155.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:34] How often do packages go to breezy mirrors? [12:36] I can't live without breezy final. === manzanita [~manzanita@166.Red-80-59-173.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === mitza [~mitza@209.Red-81-32-167.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:36] bbl [12:36] what sould i install to be able to watch mpeg movies ??ubuntu 5.04"??? === banshee_ [~robert_@82.79.220.184] has joined #ubuntu === CellarDoor is away: Away at the moment [12:36] vlc is good mitza [12:37] vlc is best [12:37] :) === Unfrgiven [~ankur@cfshbr-c17-1.atm-8-35.CoffsHarbour.dft.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] mitza: libmpeg === bet0x loves vlc === CellarDoor is back. [12:38] mitza, see www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats === megamind [~azhar@202.61.35.52] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] how to create launcher on the menu ? === dwadeer [~Miranda@xdsl-278.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] how to entry menu applications [12:40] duken, install gnome menu editor [12:40] ? [12:40] you can find info about it on the ubuntu website [12:40] hello everyone i have a question [12:41] seems incredibile, but in standard gnome you cannot [12:41] i have no internet connection at home [12:41] GNAM, you know the "menu-editor" ? [12:41] its not incredible at all [12:41] gnome just switched to the open desktop standard [12:41] so i'd like to have some repository cd's [12:41] what happened is they didn't have enought time to create gnome menu editor for release [12:41] Amaranth, here built it him self [12:41] so there you go [12:42] http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21390 <-- Menu Editor [12:42] yes, it's not standard gnome [12:42] is it possible to download some ready reopitory cd's woth additional packages [12:42] GNAM, please google a bit before complaining is all i'm saying [12:42] theres a reason for everything === Shufla [~shufla@router.kkzabrze.com.pl] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] re [12:42] holycow, ok thnks [12:42] done [12:42] or do i have to download packages by myself, burn on cd and then edit sources.list [12:42] dukehttp://www.realistanew.com/2005/03/18/gnome-menu-editor/ <- [12:42] how to launc menu editor ? [12:43] duken, no worries [12:43] duken_, read that url [12:43] i've installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, select gnome desktop, but i have konqueror as default browser auauauaua [12:43] duken_, wget http://dev.realistanew.com/menu-editor/menueditor_0.4.3ubuntu1_all.deb [12:43] it should appear in one of yoru menus after you restart gnome panel with 'killall gnome-panel' [12:43] dpki -i menueditor_0.4.3ubuntu1_all.deb [12:44] GNAM, so change it [12:44] where holycow, please? [12:44] Applications - > Run -> menu-editor [12:44] GNAM, in your preferences somewhere, check helpfiles or ubuntu website [12:44] ah ok === Madeye [~Jad@213.186.174.169] has joined #Ubuntu === CellarDoor is away: Away at the moment === beezly [~beezly@2001:630:63:16:204:75ff:feed:da66] has joined #ubuntu === spacey [~spacey@145.33.144.137] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] more incredible, in settings mozilla-firefox is default [12:46] is a setting of xchat alone? [12:46] GNAM, its or "env" [12:47] did you use kdm as default? [12:47] no [12:47] GNAM, on /etc/X11/default-display-manager you have /usr/bin/WHAT? [12:47] if you use kdm, kdm sets owns env vars === CellarDoor [~CellarDoo@d220-237-216-177.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [12:48] i've not kdm, i've installed kubuntu-desktop but selected gnome === mitza [~mitza@209.Red-81-32-167.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] hey i have no sound in vlc!!!! [12:48] does anybody has a dangling symlink /etc/rc2.d/S91samba ? [12:48] bah [12:48] AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH! [12:49] uaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !! [12:49] GNAM more incredible, in settings mozilla-firefox is default <-- please stop complaining about your own ignorance [12:49] its not pretty === bet0x lost all information on Ubuntu [12:49] auauau MAH === tle [~tle@220-244-212-78-vic.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] hey i have no sound in vlc!!!!?!?!? [12:49] My HD DIE!! =((( [12:49] ubuntu is what it is, if it doesn't do what is expected 99.9% of the time its your fault === touffi [~vincent@AOrleans-206-1-11-175.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] you have not understand [12:49] ok === queuetue [~Scott@h69-21-252-54.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] i need a "step by step" to make a secure fsck on my hd [12:51] I've got a new motherboard, with a different onboard audio chip: How do I get ubuntu to rediscover and set up my audio? [12:51] i need reboot on rescue-mode no? [12:51] queuetue, hotplug [12:51] hmm, need to install 5.04 on my server.. === bradybunchwashin [~popeye@218-215-12-14.people.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] bet0x, Were you answering me? === codecop [~codecop@server.senoji.palanga.lm.lt] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] acidburn, don't be doing that [12:52] lol [12:52] acidburn: do it. runs fine :D [12:52] ubuntu is based on debian unstable [12:52] gosh\ [12:52] queuetue, man hotplug [12:52] i wouldn't be installing that on anything other than desktop with a support group and support packages [12:52] hmm.. [12:53] why Hoary is so crap on monitor and gfx?? (I got the bug #5917) [12:53] afair hoary is snapshotted from sarge which is quite stable [12:53] no its not [12:53] unstable [12:53] gnome 2.10 is in unstable not sarge [12:53] no [12:53] Wrong [12:53] bet0x, Are you answering my question about audio? Hotplug is for USB storage devces, isn't it? [12:53] Gnome 2.10 its stable [12:53] unstable for debian people [12:54] lol no [12:54] i installed 4.10 on my server, and i haven't had any problems.. [12:54] Mouses are unstable too? [12:54] keyboards? [12:54] no [12:54] so gnome too [12:54] :) [12:54] dude, your splitting hairs [12:54] Shufla: holycow is right, ubuntu is based on a sid snapshot, not sarge [12:54] unstable are the hands on the keyboard [12:54] shutup, your confusting the noobs [12:54] There's gotta be some flawed logic somewhere in that statement, eh bet0x? [12:54] don't be so pedantic :) [12:54] indeed. sid. === bet0x says sorry to all [12:54] i need sleep === roam [~rk@killefiz.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] Can anyone else explain to me how to get Ubuntu to rescan and setu a new audio card? :) === Rima [~Rima@port-222-152-55-236.fastadsl.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] well. but i do not know what's wrong with hoary as server... [12:55] Is there a java package for hoary? [12:55] 72 with no computer and working, recovering infotmation [12:55] roam: search on ubuntu main page... try ubuntu guide. [12:55] bet0x, whats the problem? [12:55] besides, the server i'm going to install it on is a development server [12:55] not production [12:56] my hd die aster a reboot [12:56] Shufla: it references the package for warty, but not for hoary. [12:56] =/ [12:56] roam: try ubvuntuguide. === [remoob] [Miranda@216.168.103.134] has joined #ubuntu === carambol [~xarambol@h90238.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:56] ubuntuguide.org === Derreck [~derreck@pa-phlpsbrg-cmts1a-166.stcgpa.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:56] i lost 120 GB on pics of m family, documents, projects === CellarDoor [~CellarDoo@d220-237-216-177.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:56] acidburn: go for it. i depolyed real-life server. no problems (almost...but as well as in any distro) [12:57] betoare you sure it's dead? [12:57] no you didn't [12:57] hey folks its me again [12:57] bet0x: holy word backup? [12:57] i have a backup, but no up-2-date [12:57] there are places that do hd recover [12:57] bet0x, 99.9999% sure its all there [12:57] bet0x: but what's that? hw-failure? [12:57] usually the arm just stops working [12:57] i know of "hard" [12:57] just take it into a shop that recovers data [12:57] its a problem of static === vincire [~vincire@81.56.229.143] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] costs $500 in canada [12:58] your data is still there, stop crying ;) [12:58] im on argentina [12:58] how can you be sure? [12:58] are there wothwhile opensource forensic tools for disks? [12:58] I'm using kubuntu here (no ones talking in #kubuntu atm) and I'm trying to shut down X so I can install my nvidia driver, but it keeps restarting X everytime I do ctrl-alt-backspace... anyone know what to do ? [12:58] 500 on canada are 1700 here [12:58] have you taken the platters out and put them in a working read mechanism? [12:58] bet0x, only if you send your hd to canada [12:58] holycow, my english its a little poor to explain [12:58] it should be affordable there at your local recover shop === tbird [~tbird@pcp427550pcs.naugus01.ga.comcast.net] has joined #Ubuntu [12:58] is this channel not appropriate for kubuntu? [12:58] bet0x, thats okay, i'm justy trying to cheer you up [12:58] Rima, #kubuntu [12:59] on argentina dont exist the "recover" shop =9 [12:59] =) [12:59] I've asked in #kubuntu but no ones chatting, so I thought I'd ask in here [12:59] i don't believe it, if your using linux, there is a recovery shop [12:59] holycow ty, - you can obviously have kde 3.4 under ubuntu? [12:59] in poland there are some, but enterprise-centric === WillCooke [~will@host81-157-19-182.range81-157.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu === Elmaro [~Denny@pD95D0F76.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] if u lost a hd, trash - > shop -> buy new -> reinstall -> use it [12:59] =/ [12:59] i know argentina has lots of large companies, they all require this service [12:59] :P [12:59] you should look into maybe starting one === SteveA [~steve@203-217-40-144.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] if i lost hd i put it on shelf, and buy a new one [12:59] i don't touch it until i recover data [01:00] CellarDoor: Ctl+Alt+F1 ; login ; sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ; do what you need ; sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start [01:00] holycow, that i do :D [01:00] IIIEars: http://www.e-fense.com/helix/index2.html [01:00] ok thanks Shufla will do that :) [01:00] i put a new and im triying now to recover my information [01:00] bet0x, ah bueno :) [01:00] 56% of fsck :D === smelael [~kvirc@62-101-126-219.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] awesome! - :) === det [chris@sharkzone.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] betox that doesn't necessarily mean the data isn't there === mischa [~mischa@193.172.234.132] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] afair fsck is able to f*k up your data on bad sectors... [01:00] holycow, hablas espaol y yo tratando de explicarte en ingles :S [01:01] the head maybe has a hard time moving around [01:01] lol beto === mischa_ [~mischa@193.172.234.132] has joined #ubuntu === smelael [~kvirc@62-101-126-219.fastres.net] has left #ubuntu ["So] [01:01] holycow, can i speack in spanish? [01:01] bet0x, no i just worked with some mexicans for a few years :) i just know a few words now [01:01] aa [01:01] Any caveats in upgrading from hoary to breezy early after a release? Or is it more like debian unstable? [01:01] ok [01:01] Shufla: tnx [01:01] there is a ubuntu spanish channel no? [01:01] =) [01:01] holycow: it works now...it was the blody netapplet :) [01:01] #Ubuntu-es [01:01] but all are sleeping [01:01] :p [01:01] det: are you trouble seeker? [01:01] lol :) hha sorry [01:02] bet0x: don't you have night in argentina right now? === queuetue wishes he could find a way to learn french... [01:02] mischa, toldja :), just gotta know the chain of events, and where to look for the prob [01:02] 8 AM :) === bdale [~bdale@CPE-61-9-204-194.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:02] on spanish 4 AM [01:02] Shufla, certainly not! This is why I asked! [01:02] holycow: yep...tanx for the help... [01:02] bet0x, rofl, lazy country === konne [~IRCrack@r200-125-35-86-dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #ubuntu === holycow hides [01:02] all people on #Ubuntu-es are from spanish [01:02] spain* [01:02] yes [01:02] mischa, any time [01:02] so [01:02] im alone [01:02] :d [01:02] loh right spanish haha :) [01:02] Shachaf, I am, however, accustomed to Debian unstable. [01:02] det: well. it's risky right now. ask yourself why you need Breezy now [01:02] Shachaf, the excitement! === bet0x finish the hoary upgrade [01:03] det, your freak you [01:03] 10 times upgrading to hoary, 0 errors, 10 success :D [01:03] Shufla, my life is empty without my daily upgrades [01:03] lol [01:03] det: then try it. [01:03] det: If you want excitement, install something from Scud. === Markrian [~Markrian@82-68-11-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] what is Scud? [01:03] Debian Experimental [01:03] det, apt-get install girl-friend ;-) [01:04] Shufla, What I am seeking though, is if running breezy is like running debian unstable [01:04] apt-cache search money :S [01:04] why i want to remove just postfix, but ubuntu-desktop will be remove too ? === langenberg [~langenber@ip51cdbc65.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] det: for what..? [01:04] the latest stuff [01:04] if it is as likely to break as often as unstable [01:04] it would be acceptable [01:04] duken_: do not remove postfix. btw ubuntu-desktop is only metapackage it wont remove anything [01:05] thoreauputic_, No joke, I was had a dream where I realized I could apt-get install pizza. [01:05] det: huh. you are using your computer as a toy?? [01:05] Shufla, among other things [01:05] Shufla, hahaha [01:05] det, heheh - I do that all the time ;) [01:05] i didn't asked 'pleasure-toy' :D [01:05] Shufla, not everyone is as l33t as you and me *cough* [01:05] >_> [01:05] -_- [01:06] holycow: rotfl. 1'm n0t leet :D [01:06] my isp its bloking me the 6667 port =/ [01:06] 1 week more and no more #Ubuntu on freenode [01:06] =) [01:06] =( [01:06] but whitout that information (what for?) i wasn't able to answer det's question... [01:06] yes but the question is are you l33t? [01:06] brb. don't type till i get back [01:06] to be l33t or not to be l33t, that is the question my friend [01:06] ;) [01:06] >_> [01:06] use proxy [01:06] <_< [01:06] bet0x: get a new ISP [01:06] -_- [01:06] bet0x: huh. set up proxy [01:07] got to go, brb [01:07] bet0x: are they crazy? [01:07] or setup bnc [01:07] hehehe === stub [~stub@203-217-40-144.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:07] i can "bypass" the routers [01:07] =/ [01:07] i try but i cant [01:07] so === thenuke_ [thenuke@nuke.the-jedi.com] has joined #Ubuntu [01:07] new isp [01:07] i hate telecom [01:08] make sure you send them email complaining [01:08] << (Huge Grin) Helix! === topgun [~laurent@bon13-1-82-232-114-153.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] IIIEars, i actually like helix my self [01:08] bet0x, where are you come from? [01:08] bet0x: why in heaven's name are they blocking port 6667 ? === topgun [~laurent@bon13-1-82-232-114-153.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:08] mozilla-mplayer sucks (venting) [01:09] nnonix, actually things like media players and flash players dont belong in a browser === abood [~abood@adsl161.col1.cyberia.jo] has joined #ubuntu === resiak disagrees slightly with holycow. === thoreauputic_ agrees with holycow (again) [01:09] i open all video and sound in totem, i need to hire someone to write ane xtension for it tho so that when you click on media link it opens up directly in totem even when embedded [01:09] holycow: The former is true, the latter is debateable. [01:09] I agree completely .... now tell it to those embedding media in their html. [01:09] flash i don't have a choice ... yet [01:10] hi all [01:10] jordanau, i solved the xserver proplem :) [01:10] stupid question, how do I quickly burn an iso? [01:10] holycow: I presume you know about GreaseMonkey and the unembed script? [01:10] cdrecord is coughing on me [01:10] nnonix, i know *sigh* i use a flashblocker extension so thats pretty good, now just to find someone to write something like flashgot that passes the streams/files to the right external players [01:10] tsume_: right click ISO in nautilus, choose burn [01:11] resiak, actually i dont, googling now tho :) [01:11] thoreauputic_: duh :) [01:11] thoreauputic_: thank you === Goshawk [~Goshawk@host163-111.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [01:11] thoreauputic_: stupidity is fatal for me [01:11] tsume_: no worries:) [01:11] holycow, I'm attempting to tweak mozilla-mplayer to play only the embedded stuff and leave the rest to firefox file types. [01:11] tsume_, just be glad people aren't required to figure out 'right click' while driving [01:11] hehehe [01:11] tsume_: well, it isn't intuitively obvious === det [chris@sharkzone.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:12] nnonix, kinda hard eh? [01:12] does anyone else run kde 3.4 here - or everyone prefer gnome? [01:12] holycow, yep [01:12] resiak, no shit, wow [01:12] thoreauputic_: i never used gnome since 2.4 :) [01:12] resiak, i had no idea, that is a really great link [01:12] *hmm* [01:12] ifilm haha [01:12] nice [01:12] Rima: try #kubuntu ? But some people here run kde, sure === smeevil [~smeevil@gremesh1.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] hello people [01:13] Rima, i suppose i should run kde just to know whats going on, hehe :) === dany_88 [~daniele@d81-211-221-159.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] I can recommed xfce4 over both KDE and gnome. [01:13] holycow: Hope that helps. [01:13] thats on the next machine i guess [01:14] i was wondering inf there is anyone here with a ati 9700 that has dri working, === [remoob] 41 [Miranda@216.168.103.194] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] holycow, not to mention its slow to load files and randomly decides to not fully load larger files. === exw [~exw@Orleans-ppp42664.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === codecop [~codecop@server.senoji.palanga.lm.lt] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] lol [01:14] totem is getting better but still has some similar behaviour [01:14] guys, im facing a proplem with the apt-get, when i write "sudo apt-get install xmms" it told me that package of xmms not available [01:15] any comments ? === root_ [~barrahome@host115.200-45-177.telecom.net.ar] has joined #Ubuntu === yure [~yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si] has joined #ubuntu === carambol [~xarambol@h90238.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:15] abood, apt-cache search xmms [01:15] if its not there, go into /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment what it says there [01:15] abood: sudo apt-get update ? [01:15] then rung apt-get update and try again [01:15] xmms is in main [01:15] it is? oh okay === root_ is now known as bet0x === tds [~tds@ANancy-151-1-32-189.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === tds is now known as termitor === termitor is now known as termitor_taff [01:16] or he installed without Internet Access and the only repository he has enabled is CD [01:16] let me try [01:17] thoreauputic_, xmms is not in main [01:17] Burgundavia: it is here (warty) [01:17] apt-cache policy xmms [01:17] 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Packages [01:17] thoreauputic_, huh [01:18] thoreauputic_, is for hoary too. odd [01:18] Burgundavia: there you go === banshee_ [~robert_@82.79.220.184] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] nnonix, excellent call :) [01:18] i was wondering if there is anyone here that has a ati 9700 with dri working ? if so, can you explain me how you did it, i try to compile the r300.sf.net drivers , kernel drm modules is ok, kernel module for the driver is ok, the dri driver is ok, but i do not know how to get the r300 (2d) X driver === codecop [~codecop@server.senoji.palanga.lm.lt] has joined #ubuntu [01:19] smeevil, i had 9600 working [01:19] you haveto add a line after ati driver bit .... [01:19] holycow, tnx [01:19] something like "SomethingSomething" "external" "no" [01:19] holycow: hehe with the r300 driver or the fglrx driver ? [01:19] fgh [01:20] smeevil, sorry i can't be more specific but lots of google references to that i thinkg [01:20] fglrx === msturm [~msturm@t-20-214.athome.tue.nl] has joined #ubuntu === codecop [~codecop@server.senoji.palanga.lm.lt] has joined #ubuntu [01:20] holycow: okies, though iirc 9600 is r200 which has no problem , the r300 (9700/9800) is a case on its self :( === goedson [~goedson@BHE040078.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED SAMBA SERVER IN UBUNTOO .. THANKS FOR UR CO-OPRATION .... [01:21] smeevil, *nod* yeah there may be something like that, just hoping that some of my 9600 experience helps [01:21] megamind, no caps please [01:22] and on behalf of whoever helped you ... 'welcome [01:22] lol [01:22] :) [01:22] now i need help in how do i install squid in ubuhntoo [01:22] megamind, google :) [01:22] i can not find squid in synaptic ... [01:22] thats why askin [01:22] consider google/net as humanities long term memory offload storage [01:22] :) === SimonW [~simon@dsl-217-155-82-142.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:22] megamind, enable univers in /etc/apt/sources.list [01:22] however === exw [~exw@Orleans-ppp42664.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu [] [01:23] i would recommend waiting for sarge to release and using that as a server instead [01:23] hi all - I'm trying to get Eclipse working, but it can't see my Java installation [01:23] I wonder what's wrong with my Flash, cause I can't get sound working [01:23] How do I change my PATH so that stuff launched from a Gnome panel can see the changed path? [01:23] megamind, apt-get install squid [01:23] it runs fine from a terminal (where my .bashrc file has been executed) but not from the GUI === tapia [~tapia@163.Red-80-25-218.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:23] hi [01:24] is there any way on using nptl with ubuntu? === bet0x [~albert@host115.200-45-177.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] holycow: cut him some slack - he's excited :) [01:25] SimonW, read about blackdown java, just add their repo, and apt-get update && apt-get java... soemthing or other [01:25] im back :D [01:25] Linux darkhole 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux [01:25] :D [01:25] SimonW, there are a few ways to install java, the ubuntu info on their site i don't like, it's not packaged, better to use blackdown repositories [01:25] thoreauputic_, hehe :) [01:25] SimonW http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java [01:25] megamind, okay cutting some slack :) haha [01:25] thanks tbird === tromp [~tromp@capella.ins.cwi.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] SimonW, i strongly advise against that method [01:26] its 'not debian way' very bad [01:26] SimonW, np [01:26] nobody should need java [01:26] java is an evil infection [01:26] SimonW, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23592.html [01:26] even the gnu implementation of the vm is horrible ;) [01:26] tsume_, tell that to my university professors [01:26] they worked for me using blackdown [01:26] tsume_: You haven't done a computer science degree lately, have you? [01:26] SimonW: give me thier phone number and I will [01:26] I've already isntalled it using the binary thing from sun.com [01:26] does anyone know what APCI means? [01:27] i like java [01:27] resiak: yes, and I can successfully say CS people are arrogant little twists [01:27] Java becomes a fait bit less unpleasant when you use a good IDE with it [01:27] i understand what rms says about freedom, but it still has actually worked out really well with suns guidance [01:27] resiak: which is why I can't stand to be around CS people, of the arrogance [01:27] but give me Python any day :) [01:27] tsume_: And I can safely say that this is part of the reason why I'm only doing half a CS degree. ;) [01:27] my Thinkpad T23 hangs when booting Ubuntu after printing 2 lines about APCI... [01:27] the 1.5 vm is supposed to fix the speed isssues, so i'm all for it [01:27] what is "CS" ? [01:27] resiak: oh thank you! theres somebody with the same feelings I have [01:27] computer science [01:27] Computer Science [01:27] SimonW, So it goes from "annoying and completely useless" to just "completely useless"? :) [01:27] aa [01:28] resiak: also, most are looking for a acedemic background, not just knowledge of CS === Corvus [Corvus@85.86.233.133] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] resiak: so, its best to master a real degree if you know how to program already === Bloody|RLC is away: [01:28] tsume_: Sure. The other half is maths. I think I got the academia covered :) [01:28] resiak: ;) [01:28] also i think most people use java for the wrong things [01:28] tromp, google for the phrase "define: ACPI" === resiak rewrites cowsay in Java. [01:28] resiak: going to write us the next gen of LAPACK? [01:28] tromp: http://www.google.com.au/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=APCI+acronym+computers&meta=&btnG=Google+Search === Vorik [~Vorik@apeldoorn.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu === codecop [~codecop@server.senoji.palanga.lm.lt] has joined #ubuntu [01:29] i'm under the impression that java excel at 'system level' types of applications, theres lots of other tools that can be matched better to different groups of problems [01:29] tsume_: *shrug* I am clearly not as knowledgable as you :) [01:29] resiak: you don't know what LAPACK is? [01:29] holycow: its not [01:29] holycow: best to use a real language [01:29] apt-get install squid gives error could not find package squid [01:29] lol === cprov [~cprov@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [01:29] let me guess [01:29] holycow: C/C++.. or perhaps python or ruby === bluewheel [~babyb@adsl-139-77.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:29] your going to say c? [01:29] Java excels for architecture astronauts - you can spend months refactoring your design patterns [01:29] oh how did i know? [01:29] all without actually writing any useful code [01:30] tsume_: Thanks to e2, I now do know :) [01:30] lol /me checks if tsume_ is in #debian [01:30] holycow: C/C++ _IS_ an application lang no matter what any flaimbaiter says === LinuxJones [~LinuxJone@blk-222-221-81.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] whatever, thats just stupid [01:30] no offense :) === termitor_taff [~tds@ANancy-151-1-32-189.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:30] its like saying python isn't a language [01:30] holycow: wxWidgets! qt! kde! gnome! those people don't know what they are talking about [01:30] whatever [01:30] they only provide APCI - Application-Layer Protocol Control Information [01:30] i cannot imagine a booting kernel being concerned with that [01:30] your just playing favourites, what works for you doesn't necessarily work for everyone === banshee_ [~robert_@82.79.220.184] has left #ubuntu [] [01:30] holycow: well if you've been poisoned by false knowledge, I pity for you [01:31] holycow: yes it does === holy [~holy--@221.232.121.31] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] lol okay sure [01:31] could it be mis-spelling ACPI? [01:31] holycow: its not a fav, its standardized [01:31] how can i restore dhcp client to it's original state? i fubar-ed it :( [01:31] holycow: C++ is much faster than java === roam [~rk@killefiz.de] has left #ubuntu [] [01:31] thats like someone coming along telling me i should drive a tank because they do, because 'its right for everything' [01:31] ridiculous [01:31] holycow: if you haven't studied it, then sorry [01:31] no its not [01:31] !start a programming language war [01:31] :( [01:31] yes it is [01:31] holycow: study dammit [01:31] especiallynot in 1.5 vm [01:31] back [01:31] heh [01:31] Python rocks [01:31] lol [01:31] holycow: you will eventually find out for yourself [01:32] tsume_, ready many comparisons and speed tests [01:32] java infact outperforms c++ under specific problem solutions === LinuxJones [~LinuxJone@blk-222-221-81.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu === smeevil [~smeevil@gremesh1.demon.nl] has left #ubuntu [] [01:32] holycow: don't look at benchmarks with GNU C++ compiled! [01:32] I don;t think Java excels at *anything* besides marketing and breeding lazy and dumb CS students. [01:32] HELP [01:32] under others c++ is generally a wee bit faster [01:32] holycow: ICC! metrowerks! etc [01:32] tromp: quite possible [01:32] bug #5917 at Ubuntu, anyone know how to fix it? [01:32] what they had a bit problem was in the pre 1.5 vm ... each even would spawn hundreds of sub events [01:32] holycow: no! C++ is much faster when using a good compiler [01:32] it wasn't code, bad vm implementation [01:32] which file-system format do you guys recommend? [01:33] holycow: GNU C++ isn't good at all [01:33] lol well since your in #ubuntu, i presume your talking to ms compiler and not gcc :) [01:33] holycow: sure it works, but its slow === thoreauputic_ settle back with the popcorn to watch the language Holy War [01:33] holycow: Intel CC and Metroworks ;) === Goshawk [~Goshawk@host163-111.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [01:33] and the performance issue is a moot point as of amd64 [01:33] tromp, I'm sure its talking about ACPI not APCI [01:33] holycow: which is why C++ is still better [01:33] i installed even open office on this beast today, fucking thing runs like word :) [01:33] sorry for swearing :) [01:33] haha [01:34] tsume_, lol, your so called speed increase is trumped by security issues [01:34] before we get into a language war.. === ikuyaLoqu [~ikuya@openblocks.good-day.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:34] which file-system format do you guys recommend? [01:34] ;) [01:34] ta for the help guys [01:34] ace2001ac, ext3 :-) [01:34] acidburn: XFS! [01:34] acidburn: OMG - don't do this ! [01:34] anyone know what dhcp client ships with ubuntu by default and that works with network-admin and what other .debs are associated with dhcp client? [01:34] a java programmer has very little to worry about security wise, i guarantee even you will be affected by something primitive like a buffer overrun [01:34] for a server.. [01:34] acidburn: But if you would like a filesystem that burns like acid, Reiser! [01:34] acidburn: oh dear - here we go again... :D [01:34] holycow, ALl optimizations equal, an intepreted language (which java is - it generally in a VM) will not perform as well as a natively compiled language. Add the fact that java does incessant type checking, array checking, emulates system functions, etc... Anything that tells you it is faster then c++ is purely hype. [01:35] c and c++ have their place, they do not trump java in any real way, only under a few specific circumstances and problem types [01:35] FAT 16! [01:35] XFS, ewwwwwww [01:35] tsume_, holycow: we're going OT here ;) [01:35] riser, ewwwwwww x2 [01:35] queuetue, true, except in practice thats not always true [01:35] holycow: they beat it in every form or fashsion [01:35] reiserFS baby, yeah! [01:35] MINIX! [01:35] holycow: stop trying to lie to yourself because its the only langauge you know ;) [01:35] tsume_, no, beats it FOR YOU, if yoru going to preach at least admit your bias :) [01:35] haha [01:35] Ok, time to end this, because we're going to keep arguing fact against ... whatever holycow is using, and we'll never get anywhere... [01:36] holycow: I'm sorry you learned java, but thats no reason to bash it [01:36] which is better, vi or emacs ? === thoreauputic_ runs away [01:36] holycow: many other people back me up in real life fellow ;) [01:36] queuetue, so right, sometimes you just gotta give the other side, because if its not challenged a lie becomes truth easily :) [01:36] Tired of having limbs torn off? Medical bills hitting the ceiling? Join the chat wars! File-system, Linux distro, programming language.. The list goes on! Join Today! [01:36] thoreauputic_, emacs. Unless you like vi, you heathen.. [01:36] tsume_, and vice versa *nod* we both know it [01:36] queuetue: ed! ed is the editor! man ed! [01:36] Fight a war from your own bedroom [01:36] lol === propagandhi [~propagand@dialup-221.154.220.203.acc01-king-now.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:37] holycow, I have no idea wha you mean, but by stating that optimized java is faster than optmized c/c++, you are simply incorrect. In all cases. [01:37] holycow: okay, you write algorithms in Java, then I'll beat your crummy implementation because the vm is too slow ;) [01:37] acidburn, weeeelll sorry, haha! [01:37] http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/edistheeditor.txt [01:37] ? [01:38] queuetue, you and i know that code efficiency is 50% dependent on the coder, one can very easily create c++ code that runs as slow as python :) [01:38] oh, MistaED has quit! :( [01:38] Python is actually quite fast === oz__ [~oz@c211-30-37-88.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:38] holycow: if the C++ code is slower than the java code, fire the C++ coder [01:38] very fast actually [01:38] tsume_, :) yes, then i will take my crummy algo and run it on 11 platforms and you will be still staring at your compiler :) [01:38] holycow: most crummy programmers come from windows realm === braam [~braam@68-116-42-244.or.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] tsume_, and no real world user will be able to tell the difference [01:39] :) [01:39] holycow, It's d tthat you mention python as slow, and java as fast, when the two languages are extememely close in speed. [01:39] holycow: no, I'll still be running it on any platform buddy [01:39] tsume_, hehe :) what can i say, we agree [01:39] lol [01:39] holycow: write portable STL code duh [01:39] Python is fast, especially if you use optimization tools === thoreauputic_ likes bash === NoJ1NsK` [~darkzero@201009237184.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] holycow: FORTRAN is still better for writing algo code ;) [01:39] and its easy to code [01:40] ah, quetue is being as clueless as ever :) [01:40] thats why google uses it for their search engine [01:40] lol [01:40] acidburn, *and* it's easy to extend with c when you need to. [01:40] COBOL! [01:40] I swear by FORTRAN and C++ because I studied it well [01:40] queuetue, like you said we can argue all night, i'll just stop, just wanted to give another point of view and not leave the c is god thing hanging :) [01:40] hehe [01:40] exactly [01:40] and I can sucessfully say java is slower [01:40] appearently haskel is really fast too, gets converted to c and compiled from there appearently [01:40] also memory hungry === nr [~none@nr.user] has joined #ubuntu [01:40] holycow, C is the Unix language of choice for many reasons- and almost none of them are dogmalike. [01:40] tsume_, it no longer matters [01:40] holycow: yes, it does [01:40] even if it were true === thoreauputic_ re-reads the /topic [01:41] i rarely see systems these days with less than 512 megs ram [01:41] 1 gig is very popular [01:41] holycow: when you have a server which has 60 users running jsp apps which run algos, you'll cry [01:41] C i to low level for most tasks [01:41] lost of people getting amd64 [01:41] is* [01:41] intel dual cores [01:41] etc. [01:41] holycow: you think wrong buddy [01:41] just because you have more CPU doens't mean to need to run a shitty vm [01:41] holycow: thats the _wrong_ way of thinking [01:41] see ya guys... I've seen this too often [01:41] Why would mounting a ext2 or ext3 file system -read only- change it's checksum? === mainer [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-149.gwi.net] has joined #ubuntu === thoreauputic_ [7eda5fc5fa@wolax8-087.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:41] there are tasks that require such low level access sure, i assure you auzareus is not one of them === CellarDoor [~CellarDoo@d220-237-216-177.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:42] of open office implementation on osx [01:42] and java is used INCREDIBLY heavily in the financial industries [01:42] hi can anyone tell me how to turn acpi off [01:42] i know of no one writing cobol to modern system integration in c infact, it's all java [01:42] as an example [01:42] Guys, Please take this conversation somewhere else. [01:43] lol k :) *sigh* i'm a little chatting tonight [01:43] simpsons time :) [01:43] TY :) [01:43] re [01:44] a Lnux ad on a billboard.. [01:44] Linux* [01:44] o...holy war :) [01:44] how nice :D [01:45] This could be the start of a haiku: "Billboard Linux ad / marks the dawn of an era / in this chilly spring" [01:45] whats a good fortran IDE if such a thing exists [01:45] lol [01:45] propagandhi: perhaps something in emacs :D [01:45] yeah, i figured as much === riany [~mojang@202.46.69.59] has joined #ubuntu [01:46] Tired of Windows crashing on you? Looking for something more powerful, more stable, more fun? Well stop looking. It's here. www.ubuntu.com [01:46] ...and then try to play some viedos, dvd... :( [01:47] i don't have problems, once i installed a few, uhh, libraries [01:47] ;) [01:47] acidburn: what the hell was that about [01:47] huh. if linux wont make 33% of market in 2-3 years i'm going to be dance instructor. really... [01:47] well, you can replace windows with IE and ubuntu with getfirefox.com [01:47] propaghandi: im just bored === ubuntu [~ubuntu@b-199-242.cable.kpy.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [01:47] lol [01:48] ok, fair enough [01:48] acidburn: do something constructive. unbload xorg code :D === SiRrUs [~SiRrUs@HSE-MTL-ppp73796.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] lol [01:48] s/load/loat/ === toady [~toady@d83-177-192-3.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] good morning [01:48] resiak: cute. [01:48] hi [01:48] SiRrUs: good early-after-noon [01:48] :) [01:49] is fortran cross-platform? [01:49] *takes out code optimizer, runs it on xorg code* [01:49] grmbl! folks don't upgrade if you use evolution [01:49] *xorg code cut in half on first round* [01:49] propagandhi: as long as there is someone to write a compiler for it, yes :) === cart [~samuel@200.150.139.248] has joined #ubuntu === cartman [~cartman@cartman.developer.konversation] has joined #ubuntu [01:50] *and makes xorg unportable...* [01:50] is there something like rc.local in ubuntu? [01:50] ok, so if i wrote something in fortran can i port it to windows easily [01:50] well. portability makes software more bloat, isn't it? [01:50] like execute a command after all other boot process === Breznev [~ubuntu@b-199-242.cable.kpy.customers.dnainternet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [01:50] not really [01:50] look at the linux kernel [01:50] not exactly bloated [01:50] although getting there [01:50] it needs a rewrite soon [01:51] cart, you can create one yourself [01:51] LinuxJones: ah no cheap method for lazy me then :) Yeah I know sysVinit :) === bet0x [~albert@host115.200-45-177.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] eh... i found smth like rc.local in debian. but it was woody/early sarge time. [01:52] Shufla: its something from BSD's init scripts [01:52] pretty cool for lazy ones === Albacker [~eni@217.24.240.8] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] 1 Microsoft Windows XP License: $300 [01:52] im back [01:52] 1 Microsoft Office 2003 License: $500 [01:52] cartman, well not really [01:52] composite ext freeze my X :S [01:52] Lost Productivity: A whole lot [01:52] LinuxJones: humpf? [01:53] Watching Bill Gates get hit in the face with a cream pie: Priceless [01:53] There are somethings software can't give you. For everything else, there's Open-Source. [01:54] cartman: sudo touch /etc/init.d/rclocal ; sudo chmod /etc/init.d/rclocal ; sudo update-rc.d rclocal defaults 99 ; sudo vim /etc/init.d/rc.local <- put commands here... === eaon [~michael@p54886548.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] Shufla: thanks I know sysV init :) [01:54] cartman: ahhh. :> ok :> [01:55] Shufla: but laziness is virtue so I will copy/paste and edit :D [01:55] cartman: look into debian docs, there's something mentioned about real rc.local :D [01:55] Agh... I wish I had some startup capital. There are so many small domain-/hosting-/mail-providers I am already running a better service than. I just need a server with decent storage system, backup system and a line I am allowed to sell services on. === Xappe [~Xaplanoz@regulus3.student.UU.SE] has joined #ubuntu === bluewheel [~babyb@adsl-139-77.swiftdsl.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === joeka [~email@Ha04d.h.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu [01:55] laziness is an important factor in a programmer [01:55] Raskall: and insurance, when someone sues you. [01:55] but only when hes actually coding [01:55] hello [01:55] ;) [01:55] without ppl laziness there would be no need for computers [01:55] any know a tool to backup my all information on /etc and homes without shell commands ? [01:55] s/laziness/stupidity/ or anything else [01:56] Shufla: of course. :) But that will my business manager (also called wife) handle. [01:56] bet0x: apt-cache search backup [01:56] Shufla, "sudo" first :) [01:57] bet0x: not needed for apt-cache search... [01:57] :O [01:57] bet0x: btw not all my responses *have to* pastable :D [01:57] pasteable? [01:57] i have some problems installing ubunto on a notebook [01:57] I just wondered one thing. Am I doing something very un-ubuntuish when I set a root password on all my boxes and "sux -" when I need root? === oz__ [~oz@c211-30-37-88.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:58] or do I just have to remember "sudo" before everything when I am assisting ubuntu-users? [01:58] pasta :D [01:58] Raskall: yes [01:58] Raskall: if you feel that it's safer... [01:58] how the hell you gonna install ubuntu on a notebook? linux is portable, but not that portable [01:58] PAPER architecture [01:59] joeka: what's your problem? [01:59] acidburn, It depends if you're using PEN or PENCIL [01:59] acidburn: ??? I am running ubuntu on my thinkpad a31/p. power saving, hibernation, suspend etc is working at least as well as in windblows. [01:59] 1. after installing the notebook hangs up at starting hotplug subsystem === SlackShrike [~preview@201009102016.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] im a idiot [02:00] Shufla: just for practical reasons, really. or for old habits. === darkling [~hugo@joshua.ecs.soton.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] 30' search for a program like winscp and gftp have scp :D [02:00] Raskall: i feel more comfortable(? good) with sudo and sudo -s -H when I do need 0uid shell === schas0r [~schasi@pD95E1E35.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === HeMan [~jimmy@213.212.22.166] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] Raskall: imagine situation: === skrx [~skrx@81-203-6-153.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] Shufla: ok. It's just about habits, I guess. Why would sudo be safer than becoming root? [02:01] WillCooke: i think it's on PAPER architecture with the PENCIL command set [02:01] [shufla@hardy /var/spool/mail] $ rm -fr * [02:01] and [02:01] [shufla@hardy /var/spool/mail] # rm -fr * [02:01] with sudo you have one step more to hell... === skrx [~skrx@81-203-6-153.user.ono.com] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [02:02] Hi! Where can i find a packages.debian.org'alike webpage for ubuntu? [02:02] packages.ubuntu.com ? [02:02] acidburn, Oooo, a museum piece! [02:02] HeMan, >> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [02:03] l o. [02:03] Shufla: just if you havent typed the su password the last 30 minutes. === elcu [~justin@144.134.159.55] has joined #ubuntu === karlp [~karl@194-144-39-202.du.xdsl.is] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] Raskall: well. with unpriviliged account you have to type `sudo' before # commands. and that the time when i think second time. === grumpysmurf [~gs@c-67-166-12-53.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] Raskall: afair it's possibile to change that time to 0. than anytime you need go superuser you need to use password. and when you need longer superuser work, you go into sudo -s -H === forsaker8k6 [~forsaker@213-156-52-107.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu === morb_au [~morb_au@1cust250.tnt3.bne1.da.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] Shufla: hmm. ok. But still. I have ben god^H^H^Hroot for >15 years and never had any accidents, so the habit is bad to break. [02:05] i was using `su -'-like systems, but now i'm more comfortable with sudo's [02:05] is ndiswrapper not included on the livecd? [02:05] hi guys === mello [~mello@c-67-162-226-133.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] karlp, it should be yeah [02:06] Raskall: ah. i'm much younger than you :> [02:06] can i ask you a question? [02:06] hey forsaker [02:06] lol [02:06] Shufla: :) Yup. and learn more easily, I guess. [02:06] jones: It doesn't seem to be :) sudo ndiswrapper says it's nto found, and sudo which ndiswrapper shows nothing [02:06] I've got a problem with mplayer playing a video with ac3 audio [02:07] Raskall: no. less habits, that's it. but i think that sudo-like typing should be used for newbies in ubuntu as more supported. [02:07] karlp, you need to sudo apt-get update && apt-cache serach ndiswrapper [02:07] search* === susus [~sz@p5089F499.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:08] so it's not on th elive cd then :) [02:08] when i try to open this video mplayer crashes merrilly... [02:08] Shufla: mm.. I love the way it is done in ubuntu. Newbies are less prone to accidents that way. So when I help people, I tro to remember "sudo" before the commands I tell them to run. [02:08] but if i run mplayer --nosund