jbailey | fabbione: Around? | 12:04 |
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Mithrandir | jbailey: he tends to go to sleep fairly early, but is also around from early morning, so he should be here in five hours or so | 01:30 |
jbailey | He also seems to be near his terminal often when he claims to be asleep, so.. =) | 01:31 |
Mithrandir | heh | 01:54 |
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zul | fabbione: when you get a chance can you checkout the xternal-drivers-scsi-megaraid_removed-dell-perc.dpatch from my arch it merges fine but it hasnt been compiled tested | 04:35 |
zul | night | 04:37 |
fabbione | morning | 05:50 |
fabbione | jbailey ? | 06:16 |
dilinger | looks like he succumbed to sleep | 06:27 |
fabbione | yeah | 06:29 |
fabbione | no big deal | 06:29 |
fabbione | i think i know what he wanted :)I | 06:29 |
fabbione | the sparcbuildd runned out of disk space :/ | 06:31 |
kylem | sparcsucks | 06:31 |
kylem | ;) | 06:31 |
fabbione | kylem: meh... | 06:32 |
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lamont-away | fabbione: centralized within one machine, or over gfs? | 06:59 |
fabbione | lamont: hey | 06:59 |
fabbione | over nfs | 06:59 |
fabbione | i don't have gfs running yet on sparc | 06:59 |
fabbione | it's just pure nfs | 07:00 |
fabbione | it seems to cache properly, you can set the parameters | 07:00 |
fabbione | but you cannot see the hits/missed info | 07:00 |
fabbione | that hounestly i can't care less | 07:00 |
fabbione | how do you feel btw? | 07:01 |
fabbione | (that is kinda more important | 07:01 |
fabbione | jbailey: i had to flush the ccache, sorry... but now it's much bigger and it will partially solve some of the disk space issues | 07:07 |
fabbione | and this is good... so a test build you do, gets cached and made available to the buildd chroot | 07:08 |
fabbione | r/wind goto 4 | 07:20 |
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fabbione | lamont: good night :) | 07:36 |
fabbione | are feeling better? | 07:36 |
lamont | a day's sleep helped much | 07:36 |
fabbione | good | 07:36 |
fabbione | take good care | 07:36 |
fabbione | and i will see you later | 07:36 |
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lamont | sigh | 07:37 |
lamont | anyway, night | 07:37 |
fabbione | night :) | 07:45 |
fabbione | zul: the idea of the patch is correct, but the patch is not enough. it will create a driver conflicts for other cards | 07:59 |
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fabbione | dilinger: still around? | 08:45 |
fabbione | bah | 02:08 |
fabbione | don't upgrade to kenrel-package 8.131 | 02:08 |
fabbione | it's borked | 02:08 |
fabbione | and won't build your kernel | 02:09 |
svenl | jbailey: pong ? | 02:24 |
svenl | jbailey: sorry, was on the plane, am in Austin, Texas now, anything in particular ? | 02:24 |
jbailey | svenl: /me tries to remember... | 02:25 |
jbailey | Wait a sec. You went to Texas on purpose? =) | 02:26 |
jbailey | fabbione: CONFIG_PCI_NAMES is just the PCI ID to name mapping, right? We don't use the names in hotplug, but I want to make sure that's all it is. =) | 02:28 |
jbailey | svenl: I'm blanking on it. It might have been about a new grub snapshot I posted over the weekend to people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/grub2. | 02:30 |
fabbione | jbailey: there is more than that but it is all kernel internal iirc | 02:30 |
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zul | hey | 02:37 |
jbailey | g'm Chuck | 02:38 |
zul | hey jeff how goes the battle? | 02:39 |
jbailey | Good, just catch up on some reason in prep for UDU. | 02:40 |
zul | cool | 02:41 |
zul | just got into work | 02:41 |
zul | fabbione: so i take that patch was kind of ok | 02:51 |
zul | -devel is unsually quiet | 02:58 |
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fabbione | zul: partially ok... | 03:00 |
fabbione | it is not an external driver :) | 03:00 |
fabbione | the changelog sucked as usual :) | 03:00 |
zul | meh.. | 03:00 |
fabbione | well check the new patch ;) | 03:01 |
zul | i did.. | 03:01 |
fabbione | but it was partially ok | 03:01 |
fabbione | the removal of #define PCIDI 0x293829 | 03:01 |
fabbione | was wrong | 03:01 |
fabbione | because the include is indirectly sourced | 03:01 |
fabbione | so basically you were losing the definitions of some IDs | 03:01 |
fabbione | anyway not a big deal | 03:01 |
zul | ah ok...well am still learning | 03:02 |
zul | so the mergaraid.ko becomes megaraidlegacy.ko? | 03:02 |
fabbione | hmm o | 03:04 |
fabbione | no | 03:04 |
fabbione | there is no need of a rename | 03:04 |
fabbione | is it? | 03:04 |
zul | ah ok..i was just wondering about this line: | 03:04 |
zul | - .name = "megaraid", | 03:04 |
zul | + .name = "megaraidlegacy", | 03:04 |
fabbione | obj-$(CONFIG_MEGARAID_LEGACY) += megaraid.o | 03:04 |
fabbione | obj-$(CONFIG_MEGARAID_NEWGEN) += megaraid/ | 03:04 |
fabbione | nah that's only an internal name | 03:04 |
zul | ok | 03:04 |
fabbione | for the kernel | 03:04 |
fabbione | the real driver name doesn't change | 03:05 |
fabbione | it would break if i did a random rename | 03:05 |
zul | so how is it going? | 03:06 |
fabbione | we only have a unionfs problem on ppc | 03:06 |
fabbione | it manages to kill gcc-3.* | 03:07 |
zul | heh | 03:07 |
fabbione | the rest is ok | 03:07 |
fabbione | we need to work on checking the new drivers (before inclusion) | 03:07 |
zul | t-bone hasnt looked at it yet? | 03:07 |
fabbione | and check all the d-i overall | 03:07 |
fabbione | t-bone? | 03:07 |
zul | i can start the new drivers | 03:07 |
zul | the unionfs stuff | 03:07 |
fabbione | i doubt tbone can fix gcc :) | 03:08 |
zul | but but he is a god :) | 03:08 |
jbailey | fabbione: Are you sure the code is valid C? | 03:08 |
jbailey | I didn't take a look yesterday. | 03:08 |
fabbione | jbailey: well i am pretty sure it is.. it compiles on 5 arches :) | 03:08 |
fabbione | with the same gcc version | 03:08 |
zul | i blame ppc | 03:08 |
fabbione | me too | 03:08 |
fabbione | + gtk | 03:08 |
jbailey | There's no #ifdef __arch_ppc__ frobnicate() #endif ? =) | 03:09 |
zul | for some of the gcc4 stuff i was looking at it baycom_epp doesnt build at all | 03:09 |
fabbione | jbailey: houneslty i didn't dig too much | 03:09 |
fabbione | jbailey: it's on davis ~fabbione/linux-source-<TAB>/fs/unionfs/file.c | 03:09 |
fabbione | or concordia or halley... | 03:10 |
jbailey | I'm tracing ldd at the moment. | 03:10 |
fabbione | or in baz at the above url :) | 03:10 |
fabbione | yeah don't worry | 03:10 |
jbailey | And thinking about what it will be like to meet Xu. | 03:10 |
fabbione | i temporary disabled unionfs on ppc | 03:10 |
fabbione | it's not mission critical yet | 03:10 |
fabbione | it's more important to get mkinitrd and kernel-package fixes in the archive | 03:11 |
fabbione | jbailey: i have been wondering about that too :) | 03:11 |
jbailey | Ah, youv'e never met him either? | 03:11 |
jbailey | I thought he used to work for Canonical. | 03:11 |
fabbione | right | 03:11 |
fabbione | he is a part-time contractor | 03:12 |
jbailey | Ah, does he still do stuff? | 03:13 |
svenl | jbailey: ah, well. | 03:13 |
fabbione | jbailey: not right now... | 03:13 |
svenl | jbailey: BTW, i was thinking about mkinitrd and crypted filesystems for laptop last night. | 03:14 |
jbailey | svenl: I'd to hear your thoughts. I've been wondering whether it's worth trying to autodetect the encryption, which might be hard if it's an encrypted filesystem on an lvm using evms on a raid drive or something crazy. | 03:15 |
jbailey | svenl: I'd been thinking that perhaps it would be nice to do something like optionally have a config where for each device you could just drop a file in place that would have the information on what to do special to find it, or something like that. | 03:16 |
jbailey | That way if it's a really wild config, it could always be custom. | 03:16 |
fabbione | i am off for a nap | 03:17 |
fabbione | later guys | 03:17 |
jbailey | good sleeps, Fabio. | 03:17 |
fabbione | thanks | 03:17 |
svenl | jbailey: ok; let's speak about it at a later time. needto go to offline work now. | 03:19 |
jbailey | svenl: Cool, thanks. | 03:19 |
svenl | jbailey: BTW, have you tried hoary on your pegasos yet ? The install stuff i mean ? | 03:20 |
jbailey | svenl: Nope. Last I heard yaboot didn't boot a CD on pegasos. | 03:20 |
jbailey | svenl: I'm running current breezy on it right now from upgrading, though | 03:21 |
zul | hmmm...invalid lvalue assignment | 03:26 |
jbailey | ldd /bin/ls | sed '/linux-gate/d; /=>/ {s/.*=>[[:blank:] ] *\([^[:blank:] ] *\).*/\1/}; s/[[:blank:] ] *\([^[:blank:] ] *\) (.*)/\1/' | 04:15 |
jbailey | There's a certain point when I wonder if it's just worth writing a 25 line C program to include in glibc to get this output a little nicer that doing this. | 04:15 |
zul | hehe | 04:15 |
jbailey | Anyone here got an amd64 handy? | 04:21 |
jbailey | (running breezy) | 04:21 |
lamont | morning | 04:36 |
zul | hey lamont how are you feeling? | 04:38 |
lamont | pretty much better.. | 04:41 |
lamont | I should probably go grab some more sleep today though... I'm thinking long lunch | 04:42 |
zul | thats good | 04:48 |
jbailey | lamont: Hey - did you see my note the other day that I got patches from Carlos for building glibc on hppa? | 04:59 |
jbailey | lamont: I just need to backport them to the 2.3 branch. | 04:59 |
lamont | jbailey: coolenss | 05:00 |
lamont | eta??? :) | 05:00 |
jbailey | lamont: Post UDU, I'm guessing. | 05:00 |
lamont | jbailey: I guess we'll live | 05:00 |
jbailey | I have a chroot on bdale's machine, I just don't hjave time in the evenings to hack on it right now with prepping to leave in a couple days. | 05:00 |
lamont | right | 05:00 |
jbailey | ( I still have to do my damned taxes ) *g* | 05:00 |
lamont | ew. weren't those like due? | 05:01 |
jbailey | April 30th. | 05:01 |
lamont | ah, plenty of time then. :-) | 05:01 |
jbailey | Although, since these are from 2003, sort of. | 05:01 |
jbailey | But they sent me a notice asking me to file them. =) | 05:01 |
lamont | mine were absolutely clusterful | 05:01 |
lamont | this year I learned a whole lot more than I ever wanted to know about accelerated depreciation. Then again, I wish I'd bothered to actually read that 5-10 pages or so a few years ago... | 05:04 |
jbailey | Yeah, I'm definetly going to need a real bean counter next year. | 05:04 |
lamont | I had a real bean counter e-file for me.. he found me a chunk more money. | 05:04 |
lamont | turns out that the section 179 deduction is not limited by business profits in the case where all of your investement is at risk... | 05:05 |
jbailey | I was talking to one, but his office is slow in returning phone calss. | 05:05 |
jbailey | So before I had two weeks, and now I have 2 days. | 05:05 |
jbailey | So off to H&R block I go. | 05:05 |
lamont | ew | 05:05 |
=== lamont found a local competitor of H&R - they didn't want mine, since I had depreciation that I had calculated myself. | ||
lamont | that's not 100% true - H&R said they'd call me back, but hasn't yet... | 05:06 |
=== lamont does a test build of today's 2.6.12 + hppa -pa3, just to give the A500 something to do while he's hacking on bugs | ||
jbailey | fabbione: fixed initrd-tools just uploaded | 05:10 |
jbailey | fabbione: (when you wake up), can I toss #9903 to you? | 05:11 |
zul | jbailey: heh..gcc4 | 05:12 |
zul | jbailey: they can do what we do right in our baz archive and force gcc-3.3 in the makefile | 05:14 |
jbailey | That's.. really sick. | 05:15 |
zul | it is | 05:15 |
fabbione | nah | 05:16 |
fabbione | they can go and die.. i already answered to that on u-devel | 05:16 |
jbailey | Bug comment then: "Fabio utters Power Word DIE!, Roll 3d6 to determine chance of resistance?" | 05:17 |
zul | lol | 05:17 |
zul | i havent played d&d in such a long time that brings back memories | 05:18 |
zul | gfs pukes with gcc4 as well ;) | 05:19 |
jbailey | lamont: Hey, if Thibaut doesn't care about ia64 anymore, who's the official babysitter? | 05:19 |
fabbione | zul: yes, but not in my branch :) | 05:19 |
fabbione | zul: only the userland isn't fixed yet. | 05:19 |
zul | fabbione: wrong lvalue in dio.c in line 195 i think | 05:20 |
fabbione | yes | 05:20 |
fabbione | i know | 05:20 |
fabbione | zul: see /msg | 05:22 |
fabbione | that's the fix | 05:22 |
fabbione | but similar changes need to be done all over | 05:22 |
zul | yeah i was about to fix it in my branch but nm | 05:22 |
fabbione | it will fail immediatly after on file.c | 05:22 |
fabbione | no don't spend time on it | 05:23 |
fabbione | i have the fixes here | 05:23 |
zul | i wont | 05:23 |
fabbione | i am also waiting for upstream to see what they will do with this big fat patch | 05:23 |
jbailey | Mmmmm.. big fat patches. | 05:24 |
lamont | jbailey: will probably wind up being me for breezy - discussions to happen at UDU | 05:35 |
jbailey | lamont: I can cheerfully split that with you. | 05:36 |
lamont | er | 05:36 |
lamont | damn keyboard | 05:36 |
lamont | we'll talk. | 05:36 |
jbailey | I didn't see any space in the schedule for those discussions. | 05:36 |
lamont | (er is we shifted right one..) | 05:37 |
jbailey | *lol* | 05:37 |
fabbione | jbailey: where did you upload the mkinitrd changes? | 05:40 |
fabbione | i don't see any mail on -changes | 05:40 |
jbailey | fabbione: I just uploaded it again, but this time as a source upload. | 05:40 |
jbailey | *sigh* | 05:40 |
jbailey | I really wish that it would take the binary upload and just strip off the bits it doesn't want and go ahead. | 05:41 |
jbailey | BAh sed s/hoary/breezy/ time. | 05:41 |
jbailey | Let's see if third time lucky. =) | 05:42 |
fabbione | jbailey: ehehe | 05:43 |
jbailey | Objet: initrd-tools_0.1.78ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED | 05:46 |
jbailey | woohoo! | 05:46 |
fabbione | next is to wait elmo to sync kernel-package from sid | 05:46 |
fabbione | and we can start considering to upload :) | 05:46 |
fabbione | given how much work there is still to do | 05:46 |
fabbione | lamont: after you finish to build pa3, can you please upload the config updates and send me a build log? | 05:47 |
fabbione | i need to check what is in the udebs and if kernel-wedge did warning about changes | 05:47 |
zul | ill start with some of the external drivers tonight | 05:49 |
zul | but now is time for lunch | 05:50 |
lamont | fabbione: will do | 05:52 |
fabbione | thanks | 05:53 |
fabbione | ahh | 05:54 |
fabbione | chocolate biscuits :) | 05:54 |
fabbione | good.. vblade and aoetools uploaded | 05:56 |
fabbione | time to finish the GFS suite... | 05:57 |
fabbione | "white smoke from the vatican" | 05:59 |
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fabbione | they have elected the pope it seems... | 05:59 |
jbailey | Cool. | 05:59 |
jbailey | I wonder what they burn for the various colours of smoke. | 05:59 |
fabbione | for the white is marijuana.. for the black is ashish | 06:00 |
jbailey | *lol* | 06:01 |
jbailey | So the longer it takes to do the election, the longer it will likely take, I guess. | 06:01 |
fabbione | ehhehe | 06:02 |
fabbione | the bell is ringing | 06:04 |
lamont | fabbione: black smoke means that the structure is burning... :-) | 06:05 |
fabbione | lamont: hehehhe not at the vatican.. things work differently there ;) | 06:05 |
lamont | well, it is rather difficult to burn rock, I guess... | 06:06 |
fabbione | and gold... | 06:06 |
fabbione | vatican is a rich "to death" country | 06:06 |
lamont | nah - gold will burn - you just have to really heat it up first... rock is a bit harder.. :-) | 06:09 |
fabbione | all italian TV's are pointed to vatican | 06:10 |
fabbione | no name yet | 06:10 |
lamont | fabbione: that's been done. | 06:10 |
lamont | (nny that is...) | 06:10 |
fabbione | not to the public | 06:10 |
fabbione | oh | 06:10 |
fabbione | ehehe | 06:10 |
jbailey | *lol* | 06:21 |
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T-Bone | oy | 06:23 |
lamont | veh | 06:23 |
T-Bone | hey lamont! | 06:24 |
T-Bone | lamont: did you see my mail from yesterday? :) | 06:24 |
lamont | yeah | 06:24 |
lamont | just glanced at it though - was sick | 06:24 |
T-Bone | ow :-/ | 06:25 |
T-Bone | feeling better i hope? | 06:25 |
lamont | pretty much | 06:25 |
T-Bone | cool! | 06:25 |
lamont | wrt hppa/breezy: I'm keeping the kernel current, and we're waiting for glibc and gcc-4.0 fixes. Then we can do something there | 06:26 |
fabbione | baz commit -s'initrd-tools of death' | 06:26 |
lamont | meanwhile, I need to make time to create the more complete archive in ~lamont/ubuntu-hppa | 06:26 |
=== lamont back in a few | ||
T-Bone | that'd be cool | 06:26 |
T-Bone | i'm waiting for that to advertise for the port... ;] | 06:27 |
fabbione | see.. they elected the pope and T-Bone is back.... | 06:28 |
=== fabbione suspects there is a connection | ||
T-Bone | oh they did? | 06:29 |
fabbione | yes | 06:29 |
T-Bone | hmm | 06:29 |
T-Bone | news.google.com seems unaware of that :P | 06:29 |
=== T-Bone goes to afp.fr | ||
fabbione | turn on your tv | 06:30 |
T-Bone | yeah, good idea | 06:31 |
fabbione | jbailey: do you have any ETA to complete the Debian/ubuntu merge for cdbs? | 06:42 |
fabbione | jbailey: some packages build-dep on them | 06:42 |
fabbione | on it even | 06:42 |
fabbione | ratzinger | 06:44 |
fabbione | german | 06:44 |
fabbione | benedicti XVI | 06:44 |
zul | hmmm...new pope? | 06:46 |
fabbione | yes | 06:46 |
zul | cool..i hope it isnt that german guy | 06:46 |
fabbione | he is | 06:47 |
zul | dang | 06:47 |
fabbione | <fabbione> ratzinger | 06:47 |
fabbione | <fabbione> german | 06:47 |
zul | bleah | 06:47 |
fabbione | ahha | 06:48 |
fabbione | he was born in 1927! | 06:48 |
fabbione | did they plan to change the pope again in 2 years? | 06:48 |
lamont | T-Bone: afp? america's funniest pope? | 06:49 |
fabbione | LOL @ the public... | 06:49 |
fabbione | they went all silent after they said the name of the new pope | 06:50 |
zul | heh he suppose to be more conservative then john paul | 07:04 |
fabbione | he is | 07:05 |
zul | heh...you know what would shut up all of these 2.6.11 bugs in bugzilla...inotify 0.22 | 07:05 |
fabbione | zul: right.. i forgot to parte bugzilla for inotify updates | 07:07 |
fabbione | oh actually.. | 07:08 |
fabbione | lamont: do we need to force gcc-3.3 build-dep for the kernel?= | 07:08 |
fabbione | ok that we already use it.. but is it going to survive in breezy chroots? | 07:09 |
T-Bone | feeh. Yet another old geezer. And an Inquisitor, even | 07:09 |
T-Bone | lamont: Agence France Presse. Check www.afp.fr (it's in English for you) | 07:09 |
zul | www.canoe.ca | 07:09 |
lamont | gcc-3.3 will not be in good virgin breezy chroots | 07:10 |
lamont | fabbione: ^^ | 07:10 |
fabbione | ok | 07:10 |
fabbione | so i guess we need to build-dep on it | 07:11 |
lamont | yes | 07:11 |
fabbione | gcc-3.3-hppa64 [hppa] , binutils-hppa64 [hppa] , gcc-3.3 | 07:11 |
fabbione | this should be enough.... | 07:11 |
lamont | I think so | 07:12 |
fabbione | and i guess breezy is not bootstrappable either to check | 07:12 |
=== lamont lunches | ||
lamont | it is. | 07:12 |
fabbione | oh nice | 07:13 |
lamont | but you have to fix breezy.buildd | 07:13 |
zul | hehe...pope benedict makes baby jesus cry | 07:13 |
fabbione | zul: told you | 07:13 |
zul | i know i know | 07:13 |
lamont | fabbione: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/breezy.buildd | 07:14 |
=== lamont lunches for real. back later | ||
zul | damn it...i love power outages | 07:15 |
fabbione | lamont: ok | 07:17 |
fabbione | http://chowned.org/Who_will_replace_the_Pope.jpg | 07:20 |
fabbione | ahahha | 07:20 |
zul | heha | 07:20 |
=== T-Bone tries to figure out how to get popcon ubuntu to work through an http proxy | ||
=== T-Bone grumbles, cvs2svn doesn't build on Warty :P | ||
zul | you arent having a good day are you | 07:31 |
T-Bone | nothing worse than usual I guess | 07:31 |
fabbione | i am almost considering to use CDBS to package the rh cluster suite.... | 07:42 |
zul | userland? | 07:42 |
fabbione | yes | 07:42 |
zul | cool | 07:43 |
fabbione | but their cvs has problems | 07:44 |
fabbione | when they add dirs to cvs, they don't show up with a cvs up | 07:44 |
fabbione | so you need a new checkout | 07:44 |
fabbione | that is fairly annoying | 07:46 |
=== fabbione watches sparc riding the wave of breezy universe | ||
fabbione | i am not sure i want to make one single big fat source and build all from it | 07:49 |
fabbione | or make 2726372 mini debs | 07:49 |
fabbione | mini sources | 07:49 |
=== fabbione is too used to have huge source packages | ||
dilinger | fabbione: thanks, i'll keep away from new kernel-packages | 08:24 |
fabbione | dilinger: it is already fixed in 8.132, but i still need to test it | 08:25 |
fabbione | dilinger: instead you might want to grab the drivers-scsi-megaraid_splitup.dpatch | 08:26 |
fabbione | ah crap.. elmo fixed the bug in katie to override NEW | 08:26 |
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zul | fabbione: you know good think i have an office.. | 09:13 |
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T-Bone | ewww | 11:39 |
T-Bone | Holy Lord, Gentle Genius of the TV Set and Saint Video Tape, forgive me for what I've done, for I knew not what I was doing ;P | 11:40 |
T-Bone | I've been watching the Jerry Springer Show | 11:40 |
T-Bone | I suspect this liable for capital punishment or something equivalent :P | 11:41 |
T-Bone | +is | 11:41 |
kylem | T-Bone, putting yourself through that is punishment enough. | 11:49 |
T-Bone | lol | 11:50 |
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