[12:04] fabbione: Around? [01:30] jbailey: he tends to go to sleep fairly early, but is also around from early morning, so he should be here in five hours or so [01:31] He also seems to be near his terminal often when he claims to be asleep, so.. =) [01:54] heh === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [04:35] fabbione: when you get a chance can you checkout the xternal-drivers-scsi-megaraid_removed-dell-perc.dpatch from my arch it merges fine but it hasnt been compiled tested [04:37] night [05:50] morning [06:16] jbailey ? [06:27] looks like he succumbed to sleep [06:29] yeah [06:29] no big deal [06:29] i think i know what he wanted :)I [06:31] the sparcbuildd runned out of disk space :/ [06:31] sparcsucks [06:31] ;) [06:32] kylem: meh... === fabbione switches to centralized ccache [06:59] fabbione: centralized within one machine, or over gfs? [06:59] lamont: hey [06:59] over nfs [06:59] i don't have gfs running yet on sparc [07:00] it's just pure nfs [07:00] it seems to cache properly, you can set the parameters [07:00] but you cannot see the hits/missed info [07:00] that hounestly i can't care less [07:01] how do you feel btw? [07:01] (that is kinda more important [07:07] jbailey: i had to flush the ccache, sorry... but now it's much bigger and it will partially solve some of the disk space issues [07:08] and this is good... so a test build you do, gets cached and made available to the buildd chroot [07:20] r/wind goto 4 === lamont prepares to sleep [07:36] lamont: good night :) [07:36] are feeling better? [07:36] a day's sleep helped much [07:36] good [07:36] take good care [07:36] and i will see you later === lamont needs to upload postfix to debian sometime soon [07:37] sigh [07:37] anyway, night [07:45] night :) [07:59] zul: the idea of the patch is correct, but the patch is not enough. it will create a driver conflicts for other cards === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> tolkien.freenode.net === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mjg59 [mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Mithrandir [~tfheen@vawad.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kylem [~kyle@CPE0030ab0b413b-CM0012c9a9a56e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-64-197.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mjg59 [mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Mithrandir [~tfheen@vawad.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === dilinger [dilinger@mouth.voxel.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === T-None [varenet@T-Bone.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kylem [~kyle@CPE0030ab0b413b-CM0012c9a9a56e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === svenl [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-64-197.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jbailey [~jbailey@CPE000ded9d787c-CM014260028338.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mjg59 [mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Mithrandir [~tfheen@vawad.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === crimsun [~crimsun@crimsun.silver.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:45] dilinger: still around? [02:08] bah [02:08] don't upgrade to kenrel-package 8.131 [02:08] it's borked [02:09] and won't build your kernel [02:24] jbailey: pong ? [02:24] jbailey: sorry, was on the plane, am in Austin, Texas now, anything in particular ? [02:25] svenl: /me tries to remember... [02:26] Wait a sec. You went to Texas on purpose? =) [02:28] fabbione: CONFIG_PCI_NAMES is just the PCI ID to name mapping, right? We don't use the names in hotplug, but I want to make sure that's all it is. =) [02:30] svenl: I'm blanking on it. It might have been about a new grub snapshot I posted over the weekend to people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/grub2. [02:30] jbailey: there is more than that but it is all kernel internal iirc === zul [~chuck@198.62.158.205] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:37] hey [02:38] g'm Chuck [02:39] hey jeff how goes the battle? [02:40] Good, just catch up on some reason in prep for UDU. [02:41] cool [02:41] just got into work [02:51] fabbione: so i take that patch was kind of ok [02:58] -devel is unsually quiet === Seveas [~seveas@dyn127.roaming.few.vu.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:00] zul: partially ok... [03:00] it is not an external driver :) [03:00] the changelog sucked as usual :) [03:00] meh.. [03:01] well check the new patch ;) [03:01] i did.. [03:01] but it was partially ok [03:01] the removal of #define PCIDI 0x293829 [03:01] was wrong [03:01] because the include is indirectly sourced [03:01] so basically you were losing the definitions of some IDs [03:01] anyway not a big deal [03:02] ah ok...well am still learning [03:02] so the mergaraid.ko becomes megaraidlegacy.ko? [03:04] hmm o [03:04] no [03:04] there is no need of a rename [03:04] is it? [03:04] ah ok..i was just wondering about this line: [03:04] - .name = "megaraid", [03:04] + .name = "megaraidlegacy", [03:04] obj-$(CONFIG_MEGARAID_LEGACY) += megaraid.o [03:04] obj-$(CONFIG_MEGARAID_NEWGEN) += megaraid/ [03:04] nah that's only an internal name [03:04] ok [03:04] for the kernel [03:05] the real driver name doesn't change [03:05] it would break if i did a random rename [03:06] so how is it going? [03:06] we only have a unionfs problem on ppc [03:07] it manages to kill gcc-3.* [03:07] heh [03:07] the rest is ok [03:07] we need to work on checking the new drivers (before inclusion) [03:07] t-bone hasnt looked at it yet? [03:07] and check all the d-i overall [03:07] t-bone? [03:07] i can start the new drivers [03:07] the unionfs stuff [03:08] i doubt tbone can fix gcc :) [03:08] but but he is a god :) [03:08] fabbione: Are you sure the code is valid C? [03:08] I didn't take a look yesterday. [03:08] jbailey: well i am pretty sure it is.. it compiles on 5 arches :) [03:08] with the same gcc version [03:08] i blame ppc [03:08] me too [03:08] + gtk [03:09] There's no #ifdef __arch_ppc__ frobnicate() #endif ? =) [03:09] for some of the gcc4 stuff i was looking at it baycom_epp doesnt build at all [03:09] jbailey: houneslty i didn't dig too much [03:09] jbailey: it's on davis ~fabbione/linux-source-/fs/unionfs/file.c [03:10] or concordia or halley... [03:10] I'm tracing ldd at the moment. [03:10] or in baz at the above url :) [03:10] yeah don't worry [03:10] And thinking about what it will be like to meet Xu. [03:10] i temporary disabled unionfs on ppc [03:10] it's not mission critical yet [03:11] it's more important to get mkinitrd and kernel-package fixes in the archive [03:11] jbailey: i have been wondering about that too :) [03:11] Ah, youv'e never met him either? [03:11] I thought he used to work for Canonical. [03:11] right [03:12] he is a part-time contractor [03:13] Ah, does he still do stuff? [03:13] jbailey: ah, well. [03:13] jbailey: not right now... [03:14] jbailey: BTW, i was thinking about mkinitrd and crypted filesystems for laptop last night. [03:15] svenl: I'd to hear your thoughts. I've been wondering whether it's worth trying to autodetect the encryption, which might be hard if it's an encrypted filesystem on an lvm using evms on a raid drive or something crazy. [03:16] svenl: I'd been thinking that perhaps it would be nice to do something like optionally have a config where for each device you could just drop a file in place that would have the information on what to do special to find it, or something like that. [03:16] That way if it's a really wild config, it could always be custom. [03:17] i am off for a nap [03:17] later guys [03:17] good sleeps, Fabio. [03:17] thanks [03:19] jbailey: ok; let's speak about it at a later time. needto go to offline work now. [03:19] svenl: Cool, thanks. [03:20] jbailey: BTW, have you tried hoary on your pegasos yet ? The install stuff i mean ? [03:20] svenl: Nope. Last I heard yaboot didn't boot a CD on pegasos. [03:21] svenl: I'm running current breezy on it right now from upgrading, though [03:26] hmmm...invalid lvalue assignment [04:15] ldd /bin/ls | sed '/linux-gate/d; /=>/ {s/.*=>[[:blank:] ] *$[^[:blank:] ] *$.*/\1/}; s/[[:blank:] ] *$[^[:blank:] ] *$ (.*)/\1/' [04:15] There's a certain point when I wonder if it's just worth writing a 25 line C program to include in glibc to get this output a little nicer that doing this. [04:15] hehe [04:21] Anyone here got an amd64 handy? [04:21] (running breezy) [04:36] morning [04:38] hey lamont how are you feeling? [04:41] pretty much better.. [04:42] I should probably go grab some more sleep today though... I'm thinking long lunch [04:48] thats good [04:59] lamont: Hey - did you see my note the other day that I got patches from Carlos for building glibc on hppa? [04:59] lamont: I just need to backport them to the 2.3 branch. [05:00] jbailey: coolenss [05:00] eta??? :) [05:00] lamont: Post UDU, I'm guessing. [05:00] jbailey: I guess we'll live [05:00] I have a chroot on bdale's machine, I just don't hjave time in the evenings to hack on it right now with prepping to leave in a couple days. [05:00] right [05:00] ( I still have to do my damned taxes ) *g* [05:01] ew. weren't those like due? [05:01] April 30th. [05:01] ah, plenty of time then. :-) [05:01] Although, since these are from 2003, sort of. [05:01] But they sent me a notice asking me to file them. =) [05:01] mine were absolutely clusterful [05:04] this year I learned a whole lot more than I ever wanted to know about accelerated depreciation. Then again, I wish I'd bothered to actually read that 5-10 pages or so a few years ago... [05:04] Yeah, I'm definetly going to need a real bean counter next year. [05:04] I had a real bean counter e-file for me.. he found me a chunk more money. [05:05] turns out that the section 179 deduction is not limited by business profits in the case where all of your investement is at risk... [05:05] I was talking to one, but his office is slow in returning phone calss. [05:05] So before I had two weeks, and now I have 2 days. [05:05] So off to H&R block I go. [05:05] ew === lamont found a local competitor of H&R - they didn't want mine, since I had depreciation that I had calculated myself. [05:06] that's not 100% true - H&R said they'd call me back, but hasn't yet... === lamont does a test build of today's 2.6.12 + hppa -pa3, just to give the A500 something to do while he's hacking on bugs [05:10] fabbione: fixed initrd-tools just uploaded [05:11] fabbione: (when you wake up), can I toss #9903 to you? [05:12] jbailey: heh..gcc4 [05:14] jbailey: they can do what we do right in our baz archive and force gcc-3.3 in the makefile [05:15] That's.. really sick. [05:15] it is [05:16] nah [05:16] they can go and die.. i already answered to that on u-devel [05:17] Bug comment then: "Fabio utters Power Word DIE!, Roll 3d6 to determine chance of resistance?" [05:17] lol [05:18] i havent played d&d in such a long time that brings back memories [05:19] gfs pukes with gcc4 as well ;) [05:19] lamont: Hey, if Thibaut doesn't care about ia64 anymore, who's the official babysitter? [05:19] zul: yes, but not in my branch :) [05:19] zul: only the userland isn't fixed yet. [05:20] fabbione: wrong lvalue in dio.c in line 195 i think [05:20] yes [05:20] i know [05:22] zul: see /msg [05:22] that's the fix [05:22] but similar changes need to be done all over [05:22] yeah i was about to fix it in my branch but nm [05:22] it will fail immediatly after on file.c [05:23] no don't spend time on it [05:23] i have the fixes here [05:23] i wont [05:23] i am also waiting for upstream to see what they will do with this big fat patch [05:24] Mmmmm.. big fat patches. [05:35] jbailey: will probably wind up being me for breezy - discussions to happen at UDU [05:36] lamont: I can cheerfully split that with you. [05:36] er [05:36] damn keyboard [05:36] we'll talk. [05:36] I didn't see any space in the schedule for those discussions. [05:37] (er is we shifted right one..) [05:37] *lol* [05:40] jbailey: where did you upload the mkinitrd changes? [05:40] i don't see any mail on -changes [05:40] fabbione: I just uploaded it again, but this time as a source upload. [05:40] *sigh* [05:41] I really wish that it would take the binary upload and just strip off the bits it doesn't want and go ahead. [05:41] BAh sed s/hoary/breezy/ time. [05:42] Let's see if third time lucky. =) [05:43] jbailey: ehehe [05:46] Objet: initrd-tools_0.1.78ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED [05:46] woohoo! [05:46] next is to wait elmo to sync kernel-package from sid [05:46] and we can start considering to upload :) [05:46] given how much work there is still to do [05:47] lamont: after you finish to build pa3, can you please upload the config updates and send me a build log? [05:47] i need to check what is in the udebs and if kernel-wedge did warning about changes [05:49] ill start with some of the external drivers tonight [05:50] but now is time for lunch [05:52] fabbione: will do [05:53] thanks [05:54] ahh [05:54] chocolate biscuits :) [05:56] good.. vblade and aoetools uploaded [05:57] time to finish the GFS suite... [05:59] "white smoke from the vatican" === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:59] they have elected the pope it seems... [05:59] Cool. [05:59] I wonder what they burn for the various colours of smoke. [06:00] for the white is marijuana.. for the black is ashish [06:01] *lol* [06:01] So the longer it takes to do the election, the longer it will likely take, I guess. [06:02] ehhehe [06:04] the bell is ringing [06:05] fabbione: black smoke means that the structure is burning... :-) [06:05] lamont: hehehhe not at the vatican.. things work differently there ;) [06:06] well, it is rather difficult to burn rock, I guess... [06:06] and gold... [06:06] vatican is a rich "to death" country [06:09] nah - gold will burn - you just have to really heat it up first... rock is a bit harder.. :-) [06:10] all italian TV's are pointed to vatican [06:10] no name yet [06:10] fabbione: that's been done. [06:10] (nny that is...) [06:10] not to the public [06:10] oh [06:10] ehehe [06:21] *lol* === T-None is now known as T-Bone [06:23] oy [06:23] veh [06:24] hey lamont! [06:24] lamont: did you see my mail from yesterday? :) [06:24] yeah [06:24] just glanced at it though - was sick [06:25] ow :-/ [06:25] feeling better i hope? [06:25] pretty much [06:25] cool! [06:26] wrt hppa/breezy: I'm keeping the kernel current, and we're waiting for glibc and gcc-4.0 fixes. Then we can do something there [06:26] baz commit -s'initrd-tools of death' [06:26] meanwhile, I need to make time to create the more complete archive in ~lamont/ubuntu-hppa === lamont back in a few [06:26] that'd be cool [06:27] i'm waiting for that to advertise for the port... ;] [06:28] see.. they elected the pope and T-Bone is back.... === fabbione suspects there is a connection [06:29] oh they did? [06:29] yes [06:29] hmm [06:29] news.google.com seems unaware of that :P === T-Bone goes to afp.fr [06:30] turn on your tv [06:31] yeah, good idea [06:42] jbailey: do you have any ETA to complete the Debian/ubuntu merge for cdbs? [06:42] jbailey: some packages build-dep on them [06:42] on it even [06:44] ratzinger [06:44] german [06:44] benedicti XVI [06:46] hmmm...new pope? [06:46] yes [06:46] cool..i hope it isnt that german guy [06:47] he is [06:47] dang [06:47] ratzinger [06:47] german [06:47] bleah [06:48] ahha [06:48] he was born in 1927! [06:48] did they plan to change the pope again in 2 years? [06:49] T-Bone: afp? america's funniest pope? [06:49] LOL @ the public... [06:50] they went all silent after they said the name of the new pope [07:04] heh he suppose to be more conservative then john paul [07:05] he is [07:05] heh...you know what would shut up all of these 2.6.11 bugs in bugzilla...inotify 0.22 [07:07] zul: right.. i forgot to parte bugzilla for inotify updates [07:08] oh actually.. [07:08] lamont: do we need to force gcc-3.3 build-dep for the kernel?= [07:09] ok that we already use it.. but is it going to survive in breezy chroots? [07:09] feeh. Yet another old geezer. And an Inquisitor, even [07:09] lamont: Agence France Presse. Check www.afp.fr (it's in English for you) [07:09] www.canoe.ca [07:10] gcc-3.3 will not be in good virgin breezy chroots [07:10] fabbione: ^^ [07:10] ok [07:11] so i guess we need to build-dep on it [07:11] yes [07:11] gcc-3.3-hppa64 [hppa] , binutils-hppa64 [hppa] , gcc-3.3 [07:11] this should be enough.... [07:12] I think so [07:12] and i guess breezy is not bootstrappable either to check === lamont lunches [07:12] it is. [07:13] oh nice [07:13] but you have to fix breezy.buildd [07:13] hehe...pope benedict makes baby jesus cry [07:13] zul: told you [07:13] i know i know [07:14] fabbione: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/breezy.buildd === lamont lunches for real. back later [07:15] damn it...i love power outages [07:17] lamont: ok [07:20] http://chowned.org/Who_will_replace_the_Pope.jpg [07:20] ahahha [07:20] heha === T-Bone tries to figure out how to get popcon ubuntu to work through an http proxy === T-Bone grumbles, cvs2svn doesn't build on Warty :P [07:31] you arent having a good day are you [07:31] nothing worse than usual I guess [07:42] i am almost considering to use CDBS to package the rh cluster suite.... [07:42] userland? [07:42] yes [07:43] cool [07:44] but their cvs has problems [07:44] when they add dirs to cvs, they don't show up with a cvs up [07:44] so you need a new checkout [07:46] that is fairly annoying === fabbione watches sparc riding the wave of breezy universe [07:49] i am not sure i want to make one single big fat source and build all from it [07:49] or make 2726372 mini debs [07:49] mini sources === fabbione is too used to have huge source packages [08:24] fabbione: thanks, i'll keep away from new kernel-packages [08:25] dilinger: it is already fixed in 8.132, but i still need to test it [08:26] dilinger: instead you might want to grab the drivers-scsi-megaraid_splitup.dpatch [08:26] ah crap.. elmo fixed the bug in katie to override NEW === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:fabbione] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ stable: kernel-debian--pre35--2.6.10 playground: kernel-debian--pre1--2.6.11.90 | There are no kernel bugs.. only broken hardware | http://pbx.mine.nu/artwork/036-lolwhat-linux-sarojin.gif === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [09:13] fabbione: you know good think i have an office.. === dilinger [dilinger@mouth.voxel.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:39] ewww [11:40] Holy Lord, Gentle Genius of the TV Set and Saint Video Tape, forgive me for what I've done, for I knew not what I was doing ;P [11:40] I've been watching the Jerry Springer Show [11:41] I suspect this liable for capital punishment or something equivalent :P [11:41] +is [11:49] T-Bone, putting yourself through that is punishment enough. [11:50] lol