[12:04] <jbailey> fabbione: Around?
[01:30] <Mithrandir> jbailey: he tends to go to sleep fairly early, but is also around from early morning, so he should be here in five hours or so
[01:31] <jbailey> He also seems to be near his terminal often when he claims to be asleep, so.. =)
[01:54] <Mithrandir> heh
[04:35] <zul> fabbione: when you get a chance can you checkout the xternal-drivers-scsi-megaraid_removed-dell-perc.dpatch from my arch it merges fine but it hasnt been compiled tested
[04:37] <zul> night
[05:50] <fabbione> morning
[06:16] <fabbione> jbailey ?
[06:27] <dilinger> looks like he succumbed to sleep
[06:29] <fabbione> yeah
[06:29] <fabbione> no big deal
[06:29] <fabbione> i think i know what he wanted :)I
[06:31] <fabbione> the sparcbuildd runned out of disk space :/
[06:31] <kylem> sparcsucks
[06:31] <kylem> ;)
[06:32] <fabbione> kylem: meh...
[06:59] <lamont-away> fabbione: centralized within one machine, or over gfs?
[06:59] <fabbione> lamont: hey
[06:59] <fabbione> over nfs
[06:59] <fabbione> i don't have gfs running yet on sparc
[07:00] <fabbione> it's just pure nfs
[07:00] <fabbione> it seems to cache properly, you can set the parameters
[07:00] <fabbione> but you cannot see the hits/missed info
[07:00] <fabbione> that hounestly i can't care less
[07:01] <fabbione> how do you feel btw?
[07:01] <fabbione> (that is kinda more important
[07:07] <fabbione> jbailey: i had to flush the ccache, sorry... but now it's much bigger and it will partially solve some of the disk space issues
[07:08] <fabbione> and this is good... so a test build you do, gets cached and made available to the buildd chroot
[07:20] <fabbione> r/wind goto 4
[07:36] <fabbione> lamont: good night :)
[07:36] <fabbione> are feeling better?
[07:36] <lamont> a day's sleep helped much
[07:36] <fabbione> good
[07:36] <fabbione> take good care
[07:36] <fabbione> and i will see you later
[07:37] <lamont> sigh
[07:37] <lamont> anyway, night
[07:45] <fabbione> night :)
[07:59] <fabbione> zul: the idea of the patch is correct, but the patch is not enough. it will create a driver conflicts for other cards
[08:45] <fabbione> dilinger: still around?
[02:08] <fabbione> bah
[02:08] <fabbione> don't upgrade to kenrel-package 8.131
[02:08] <fabbione> it's borked
[02:09] <fabbione> and won't build your kernel
[02:24] <svenl> jbailey: pong ?
[02:24] <svenl> jbailey: sorry, was on the plane, am in Austin, Texas now, anything in particular ? 
[02:25] <jbailey> svenl: /me tries to remember...
[02:26] <jbailey> Wait a sec.  You went to Texas on purpose? =)
[02:28] <jbailey> fabbione: CONFIG_PCI_NAMES is just the PCI ID to name mapping, right?  We don't use the names in hotplug, but I want to make sure that's all it is. =)
[02:30] <jbailey> svenl: I'm blanking on it.  It might have been about a new grub snapshot I posted over the weekend to people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/grub2. 
[02:30] <fabbione> jbailey: there is more than that but it is all kernel internal iirc
[02:37] <zul> hey
[02:38] <jbailey> g'm Chuck
[02:39] <zul> hey jeff how goes the battle?
[02:40] <jbailey> Good, just catch up on some reason in prep for UDU.
[02:41] <zul> cool
[02:41] <zul> just got into work
[02:51] <zul> fabbione: so i take that patch was kind of ok
[02:58] <zul> -devel is unsually quiet
[03:00] <fabbione> zul: partially ok...
[03:00] <fabbione> it is not an external driver :)
[03:00] <fabbione> the changelog sucked as usual :)
[03:00] <zul> meh..
[03:01] <fabbione> well check the new patch ;)
[03:01] <zul> i did..
[03:01] <fabbione> but it was partially ok
[03:01] <fabbione> the removal of #define PCIDI 0x293829
[03:01] <fabbione> was wrong
[03:01] <fabbione> because the include is indirectly sourced
[03:01] <fabbione> so basically you were losing the definitions of some IDs
[03:01] <fabbione> anyway not a big deal
[03:02] <zul> ah ok...well am still learning
[03:02] <zul> so the mergaraid.ko becomes megaraidlegacy.ko?
[03:04] <fabbione> hmm o
[03:04] <fabbione> no
[03:04] <fabbione> there is no need of a rename
[03:04] <fabbione> is it?
[03:04] <zul> ah ok..i was just wondering about this line:
[03:04] <zul> -       .name           = "megaraid",
[03:04] <zul> +       .name           = "megaraidlegacy",
[03:04] <fabbione> obj-$(CONFIG_MEGARAID_LEGACY)   += megaraid.o
[03:04] <fabbione> obj-$(CONFIG_MEGARAID_NEWGEN)   += megaraid/
[03:04] <fabbione> nah that's only an internal name
[03:04] <zul> ok
[03:04] <fabbione> for the kernel
[03:05] <fabbione> the real driver name doesn't change
[03:05] <fabbione> it would break if i did a random rename
[03:06] <zul> so how is it going?
[03:06] <fabbione> we only have a unionfs problem on ppc
[03:07] <fabbione> it manages to kill gcc-3.*
[03:07] <zul> heh
[03:07] <fabbione> the rest is ok
[03:07] <fabbione> we need to work on checking the new drivers (before inclusion)
[03:07] <zul> t-bone hasnt looked at it yet?
[03:07] <fabbione> and check all the d-i overall
[03:07] <fabbione> t-bone?
[03:07] <zul> i can start the new drivers
[03:07] <zul> the unionfs stuff
[03:08] <fabbione> i doubt tbone can fix gcc :)
[03:08] <zul> but but he is a god :)
[03:08] <jbailey> fabbione: Are you sure the code is valid C?
[03:08] <jbailey> I didn't take a look yesterday.
[03:08] <fabbione> jbailey: well i am pretty sure it is.. it compiles on 5 arches :)
[03:08] <fabbione> with the same gcc version
[03:08] <zul> i blame ppc
[03:08] <fabbione> me too
[03:08] <fabbione> + gtk
[03:09] <jbailey> There's no #ifdef __arch_ppc__ frobnicate() #endif ? =)
[03:09] <zul> for some of the gcc4 stuff i was looking at it baycom_epp doesnt build at all
[03:09] <fabbione> jbailey: houneslty i didn't dig too much
[03:09] <fabbione> jbailey: it's on davis ~fabbione/linux-source-<TAB>/fs/unionfs/file.c
[03:10] <fabbione> or concordia or halley...
[03:10] <jbailey> I'm tracing ldd at the moment.
[03:10] <fabbione> or in baz at the above url :)
[03:10] <fabbione> yeah don't worry
[03:10] <jbailey> And thinking about what it will be like to meet Xu.
[03:10] <fabbione> i temporary disabled unionfs on ppc
[03:10] <fabbione> it's not mission critical yet
[03:11] <fabbione> it's more important to get mkinitrd and kernel-package fixes in the archive
[03:11] <fabbione> jbailey: i have been wondering about that too :)
[03:11] <jbailey> Ah, youv'e never met him either?
[03:11] <jbailey> I thought he used to work for Canonical.
[03:11] <fabbione> right
[03:12] <fabbione> he is a part-time contractor
[03:13] <jbailey> Ah, does he still do stuff?
[03:13] <svenl> jbailey: ah, well.
[03:13] <fabbione> jbailey: not right now...
[03:14] <svenl> jbailey: BTW, i was thinking about mkinitrd and crypted filesystems for laptop last night.
[03:15] <jbailey> svenl: I'd to hear your thoughts.  I've been wondering whether it's worth trying to autodetect the encryption, which might be hard if it's an encrypted filesystem on an lvm using evms on a raid drive or something crazy.
[03:16] <jbailey> svenl: I'd been thinking that perhaps it would be nice to do something like optionally have a config where for each device you could just drop a file in place that would have  the information on what to do special to find it, or something like that.
[03:16] <jbailey> That way if it's a really wild config, it could always be custom.
[03:17] <fabbione> i am off for a nap
[03:17] <fabbione> later guys
[03:17] <jbailey> good sleeps, Fabio.
[03:17] <fabbione> thanks
[03:19] <svenl> jbailey: ok; let's speak about it at a later time. needto go to offline work now.
[03:19] <jbailey> svenl: Cool, thanks.
[03:20] <svenl> jbailey: BTW, have you tried hoary on your pegasos yet ? The install stuff i mean ? 
[03:20] <jbailey> svenl: Nope.  Last I heard yaboot didn't boot a CD on pegasos.
[03:21] <jbailey> svenl: I'm running current breezy on it right now from upgrading, though
[03:26] <zul> hmmm...invalid lvalue assignment
[04:15] <jbailey> ldd /bin/ls | sed '/linux-gate/d; /=>/ {s/.*=>[[:blank:] ] *\([^[:blank:] ] *\).*/\1/}; s/[[:blank:] ] *\([^[:blank:] ] *\) (.*)/\1/'
[04:15] <jbailey> There's a certain point when I wonder if it's just worth writing a 25 line C program to include in glibc to get this output a little nicer that doing this.
[04:15] <zul> hehe
[04:21] <jbailey> Anyone here got an amd64 handy?
[04:21] <jbailey> (running breezy)
[04:36] <lamont> morning
[04:38] <zul> hey lamont how are you feeling?
[04:41] <lamont> pretty much better..
[04:42] <lamont> I should probably go grab some more sleep today though... I'm thinking long lunch
[04:48] <zul> thats good
[04:59] <jbailey> lamont: Hey - did you see my note the other day that I got patches from Carlos for building glibc on hppa?
[04:59] <jbailey> lamont: I just need to backport them to the 2.3 branch.
[05:00] <lamont> jbailey: coolenss
[05:00] <lamont> eta??? :)
[05:00] <jbailey> lamont: Post UDU, I'm guessing.
[05:00] <lamont> jbailey: I guess we'll live
[05:00] <jbailey> I have a chroot on bdale's machine, I just don't hjave time in the evenings to hack on it right now with prepping to leave in a couple days.
[05:00] <lamont> right
[05:00] <jbailey> ( I still have to do my damned taxes ) *g*
[05:01] <lamont> ew.  weren't those like due?
[05:01] <jbailey> April 30th.
[05:01] <lamont> ah, plenty of time then. :-)
[05:01] <jbailey> Although, since these are from 2003, sort of.
[05:01] <jbailey> But they sent me a notice asking me to file them. =)
[05:01] <lamont> mine were absolutely clusterful
[05:04] <lamont> this year I learned a whole lot more than I ever wanted to know about accelerated depreciation.  Then again, I wish I'd bothered to actually read that 5-10 pages or so a few years ago...
[05:04] <jbailey> Yeah, I'm definetly going to need a real bean counter next year.
[05:04] <lamont> I had a real bean counter e-file for me.. he found me a chunk more money.
[05:05] <lamont> turns out that the section 179 deduction is not limited by business profits in the case where all of your investement is at risk...
[05:05] <jbailey> I was talking to one, but his office is slow in returning phone calss.
[05:05] <jbailey> So before I had two weeks, and now I have 2 days.
[05:05] <jbailey> So off to H&R block I go.
[05:05] <lamont> ew
[05:06] <lamont> that's not 100% true - H&R said they'd call me back, but hasn't yet...
[05:10] <jbailey> fabbione: fixed initrd-tools just uploaded
[05:11] <jbailey> fabbione: (when you wake up), can I toss #9903 to you?
[05:12] <zul> jbailey: heh..gcc4
[05:14] <zul> jbailey: they can do what we do right in our baz archive and force gcc-3.3 in the makefile
[05:15] <jbailey> That's.. really sick.
[05:15] <zul> it is
[05:16] <fabbione> nah
[05:16] <fabbione> they can go and die.. i already answered to that on u-devel
[05:17] <jbailey> Bug comment then: "Fabio utters Power Word DIE!, Roll 3d6 to determine chance of resistance?"
[05:17] <zul> lol
[05:18] <zul> i havent played d&d in such a long time that brings back memories
[05:19] <zul> gfs pukes with gcc4 as well ;)
[05:19] <jbailey> lamont: Hey, if Thibaut doesn't care about ia64 anymore, who's the official babysitter?
[05:19] <fabbione> zul: yes, but not in my branch :)
[05:19] <fabbione> zul: only the userland isn't fixed yet.
[05:20] <zul> fabbione: wrong lvalue in dio.c in line 195 i think
[05:20] <fabbione> yes
[05:20] <fabbione> i know
[05:22] <fabbione> zul: see /msg
[05:22] <fabbione> that's the fix
[05:22] <fabbione> but similar changes need to be done all over
[05:22] <zul> yeah i was about to fix it in my branch but nm
[05:22] <fabbione> it will fail immediatly after on file.c
[05:23] <fabbione> no don't spend time on it
[05:23] <fabbione> i have the fixes here
[05:23] <zul> i wont
[05:23] <fabbione> i am also waiting for upstream to see what they will do with this big fat patch
[05:24] <jbailey> Mmmmm..  big fat patches.
[05:35] <lamont> jbailey: will probably wind up being me for breezy - discussions to happen at UDU
[05:36] <jbailey> lamont: I can cheerfully split that with you.
[05:36] <lamont> er
[05:36] <lamont> damn keyboard
[05:36] <lamont> we'll talk.
[05:36] <jbailey> I didn't see any space in the schedule for those discussions.
[05:37] <lamont> (er is we shifted right one..)
[05:37] <jbailey> *lol*
[05:40] <fabbione> jbailey: where did you upload the mkinitrd changes?
[05:40] <fabbione> i don't see any mail on -changes
[05:40] <jbailey> fabbione: I just uploaded it again, but this time as a source upload.
[05:40] <jbailey> *sigh*
[05:41] <jbailey> I really wish that it would take the binary upload and just strip off the bits it doesn't want and go ahead.
[05:41] <jbailey> BAh sed s/hoary/breezy/ time.
[05:42] <jbailey> Let's see if third time lucky. =)
[05:43] <fabbione> jbailey: ehehe
[05:46] <jbailey> Objet: 	initrd-tools_0.1.78ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED
[05:46] <jbailey> woohoo!
[05:46] <fabbione> next is to wait elmo to sync kernel-package from sid
[05:46] <fabbione> and we can start considering to upload :)
[05:46] <fabbione> given how much work there is still to do
[05:47] <fabbione> lamont: after you finish to build pa3, can you please upload the config updates and send me a build log?
[05:47] <fabbione> i need to check what is in the udebs and if kernel-wedge did warning about changes
[05:49] <zul> ill start with some of the external drivers tonight
[05:50] <zul> but now is time for lunch
[05:52] <lamont> fabbione: will do
[05:53] <fabbione> thanks
[05:54] <fabbione> ahh
[05:54] <fabbione> chocolate biscuits :)
[05:56] <fabbione> good.. vblade and aoetools uploaded
[05:57] <fabbione> time to finish the GFS suite...
[05:59] <fabbione> "white smoke from the vatican"
[05:59] <fabbione> they have elected the pope it seems...
[05:59] <jbailey> Cool.
[05:59] <jbailey> I wonder what they burn for the various colours of smoke.
[06:00] <fabbione> for the white is marijuana.. for the black is ashish
[06:01] <jbailey> *lol*
[06:01] <jbailey> So the longer it takes to do the election, the longer it will likely take, I guess.
[06:02] <fabbione> ehhehe
[06:04] <fabbione> the bell is ringing
[06:05] <lamont> fabbione: black smoke means that the structure is burning... :-)
[06:05] <fabbione> lamont: hehehhe not at the vatican.. things work differently there ;)
[06:06] <lamont> well, it is rather difficult to burn rock, I guess...
[06:06] <fabbione> and gold...
[06:06] <fabbione> vatican is a rich "to death" country
[06:09] <lamont> nah -  gold will burn - you just have to really heat it up first... rock is a bit harder.. :-)
[06:10] <fabbione> all italian TV's are pointed to vatican
[06:10] <fabbione> no name yet
[06:10] <lamont> fabbione: that's been done.
[06:10] <lamont> (nny that is...)
[06:10] <fabbione> not to the public
[06:10] <fabbione> oh
[06:10] <fabbione> ehehe
[06:21] <jbailey> *lol*
[06:23] <T-Bone> oy
[06:23] <lamont> veh
[06:24] <T-Bone> hey lamont!
[06:24] <T-Bone> lamont: did you see my mail from yesterday? :)
[06:24] <lamont> yeah
[06:24] <lamont> just glanced at it though - was sick
[06:25] <T-Bone> ow :-/
[06:25] <T-Bone> feeling better i hope?
[06:25] <lamont> pretty much
[06:25] <T-Bone> cool!
[06:26] <lamont> wrt hppa/breezy: I'm keeping the kernel current, and we're waiting for glibc and gcc-4.0 fixes.  Then we can do something there
[06:26] <fabbione> baz commit -s'initrd-tools of death'
[06:26] <lamont> meanwhile, I need to make time to create the more complete archive in ~lamont/ubuntu-hppa
[06:26] <T-Bone> that'd be cool
[06:27] <T-Bone> i'm waiting for that to advertise for the port... ;] 
[06:28] <fabbione> see.. they elected the pope and T-Bone is back....
[06:29] <T-Bone> oh they did?
[06:29] <fabbione> yes
[06:29] <T-Bone> hmm
[06:29] <T-Bone> news.google.com seems unaware of that :P
[06:30] <fabbione> turn on your tv
[06:31] <T-Bone> yeah, good idea
[06:42] <fabbione> jbailey: do you have any ETA to complete the Debian/ubuntu merge for cdbs?
[06:42] <fabbione> jbailey: some packages build-dep on them
[06:42] <fabbione> on it even
[06:44] <fabbione> ratzinger
[06:44] <fabbione> german
[06:44] <fabbione> benedicti XVI
[06:46] <zul> hmmm...new pope?
[06:46] <fabbione> yes
[06:46] <zul> cool..i hope it isnt that german guy
[06:47] <fabbione> he is
[06:47] <zul> dang
 ratzinger
 german
[06:47] <zul> bleah
[06:48] <fabbione> ahha
[06:48] <fabbione> he was born in 1927!
[06:48] <fabbione> did they plan to change the pope again in 2 years?
[06:49] <lamont> T-Bone: afp? america's funniest pope? 
[06:49] <fabbione> LOL @ the public...
[06:50] <fabbione> they went all silent after they said the name of the new pope
[07:04] <zul> heh he suppose to be more conservative then john paul
[07:05] <fabbione> he is
[07:05] <zul> heh...you know what would shut up all of these 2.6.11 bugs in bugzilla...inotify 0.22
[07:07] <fabbione> zul: right.. i forgot to parte bugzilla for inotify updates
[07:08] <fabbione> oh actually..
[07:08] <fabbione> lamont: do we need to force gcc-3.3 build-dep for the kernel?=
[07:09] <fabbione> ok that we already use it.. but is it going to survive in breezy chroots?
[07:09] <T-Bone> feeh. Yet another old geezer. And an Inquisitor, even
[07:09] <T-Bone> lamont: Agence France Presse. Check www.afp.fr (it's in English for you)
[07:09] <zul> www.canoe.ca
[07:10] <lamont> gcc-3.3 will not be in good virgin breezy chroots
[07:10] <lamont> fabbione: ^^
[07:10] <fabbione> ok
[07:11] <fabbione> so i guess we need to build-dep on it
[07:11] <lamont> yes
[07:11] <fabbione> gcc-3.3-hppa64 [hppa] , binutils-hppa64 [hppa] , gcc-3.3
[07:11] <fabbione> this should be enough....
[07:12] <lamont> I think so
[07:12] <fabbione> and i guess breezy is not bootstrappable either to check
[07:12] <lamont> it is.
[07:13] <fabbione> oh nice
[07:13] <lamont> but you have to fix breezy.buildd
[07:13] <zul> hehe...pope benedict makes baby jesus cry
[07:13] <fabbione> zul: told you
[07:13] <zul> i know i know
[07:14] <lamont> fabbione: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/breezy.buildd
[07:15] <zul> damn it...i love power outages
[07:17] <fabbione> lamont: ok
[07:20] <fabbione> http://chowned.org/Who_will_replace_the_Pope.jpg
[07:20] <fabbione> ahahha
[07:20] <zul> heha
[07:31] <zul> you arent having a good day are you
[07:31] <T-Bone> nothing worse than usual I guess
[07:42] <fabbione> i am almost considering to use CDBS to package the rh cluster suite....
[07:42] <zul> userland?
[07:42] <fabbione> yes
[07:43] <zul> cool
[07:44] <fabbione> but their cvs has problems
[07:44] <fabbione> when they add dirs to cvs, they don't show up with a cvs up
[07:44] <fabbione> so you need a new checkout
[07:46] <fabbione> that is fairly annoying
[07:49] <fabbione> i am not sure i want to make one single big fat source and build all from it
[07:49] <fabbione> or make 2726372 mini debs
[07:49] <fabbione> mini sources
[08:24] <dilinger> fabbione: thanks, i'll keep away from new kernel-packages
[08:25] <fabbione> dilinger: it is already fixed in 8.132, but i still need to test it
[08:26] <fabbione> dilinger: instead you might want to grab the drivers-scsi-megaraid_splitup.dpatch
[08:26] <fabbione> ah crap.. elmo fixed the bug in katie to override NEW
[09:13] <zul> fabbione: you know good think i have an office..
[11:39] <T-Bone> ewww
[11:40] <T-Bone> Holy Lord, Gentle Genius of the TV Set and Saint Video Tape, forgive me for what I've done, for I knew not what I was doing ;P
[11:40] <T-Bone> I've been watching the Jerry Springer Show
[11:41] <T-Bone> I suspect this liable for capital punishment or something equivalent :P
[11:41] <T-Bone> +is
[11:49] <kylem> T-Bone, putting yourself through that is punishment enough.
[11:50] <T-Bone> lol