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zulbleah04:36
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fabbionemorning05:50
crimsunmorning :)05:50
tsengbah06:28
tsengmorning :(06:28
schweebtseng: please tell me you haven't slept yet06:29
tsengi have06:29
tsengand woke up again somehow06:29
tsengin 6 hours ill be up again06:29
tsengi like to get my full 8 hours06:30
schweebugh06:31
tsengugh yourself06:32
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tsenghi or06:35
tsengogra:06:35
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tsenghi dholbach06:36
dholbachhai06:36
JanCAmaranth ?06:37
ograhey tseng06:37
ogratseng, bring summer clothes with you, its very warm here06:37
ajmitchogra: hopefully warmer than here06:38
sladenI thought it was supposed to be winter in Oz?06:38
ograover 30 degree celisius yesterday06:38
ajmitchsladen: autumn06:38
ograonly about 25 today06:38
ajmitchheh06:38
dholbachhow are you all?06:39
ajmitchalright06:39
ograbut sunny all the time06:39
ajmitchkeen to get away from dunedin & get over to sydney :)06:39
ajmitchogra: that may change..06:39
ograajmitch, nah...06:39
ogra(i dont want it to change )06:39
ajmitchhehe :)06:40
schweebdholbach: it's very warm here too, I'm sweatin my arse off06:40
tsengso im using mutt :(06:40
tsengschweeb: thats what woke me up, its hot as hell06:41
schweeb16C here right now06:41
ograwhats wrong with 16C ?06:41
ograits not really hot...06:42
schweebit's 1am, in April06:42
schweebin MI06:42
schweebthat's boiling hot06:42
ograok :)06:42
schweebit should be about 4 or 5C out06:42
schweebheh06:42
JanCit's 3C here now  :-/06:44
schweebwhere's here?06:45
JanCwell, it's 3C in Ostend, which is 15 km from here (which is Bruges)06:45
JanC(according to some gnome-panel weather-applet06:46
JanC:)06:46
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aisiposIs this a good place to report problems installing eric3 on ubuntu?08:02
crimsunI get no such problems, aisipos08:02
ograaisipos, use malone (url is in the topic)08:02
aisiposI'll happily report a bug there, just wanted to ensure there wasn't one already. The search box doesn't seem to work for me there.08:05
crimsunsure, go aheda.08:06
crimsunit's puzzling that you get those errors, though, because I don't.08:06
crimsungonna test with a dist-upgrade from warty.08:06
aisiposI have universe and multiverse installed, and have installed kubuntu-desktop, somehow something is screwy.08:07
aisiposLooks like a package is duplicated in python-dcop.08:07
aisiposBut I'm no expert at .debs08:08
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crimsunaisipos: ok, hang on.08:15
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crimsunaisipos: apt-cache policy python-dcop08:17
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aisipos_crimsum: apologies, my client (chatzilla) was hanging. Can you repeat your instructions about python-dcop please?08:38
aisipos_crimsun: apologies, my client (chatzilla) was hanging. Can you repeat your instructions about python-dcop please?08:39
crimsunaisipos_: please file a bug in malone about python-dcop08:39
crimsunaisipos_: (I've confirmed the bug you see)08:39
aisipos_crimsun: Any advice on which command outputs to include?08:40
aisipos_crimsun: Also, for the summary, is "Problems installing eric3" a useful summary?08:41
crimsunaisipos_: it's not related to eric308:42
crimsunaisipos_: the problem is that python-dcop erroneously contains a file that's also in python2.4-sip4-qt308:42
crimsunaisipos_: in fact, if you remove/purge python-dcop, eric3 installs fine08:43
aisipos_crimsun: Ok, I'll use summary ' Duplicate file with python2.4-sip4-qt3'08:44
aisipos_crimsun: But what command output should I include in the description?08:44
crimsunthe output from dpkg08:44
crimsunnamely:   (sorry about pending flood)08:45
crimsunUnpacking python-dcop (from .../python-dcop_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...08:45
crimsundpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-dcop_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):08:45
crimsun trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/sip.so', which is also in package python2.4-sip4-qt308:45
crimsundpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)08:45
aisipos_Hmm, malone doesn't see python-dcop as a valid 'source package name'08:47
aisipos_I'm filing from here: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/+package08:48
crimsunkdebindings is the source package's name08:49
crimsun(apt-cache showsrc python-dcop)08:49
\shcrimsun: kdebindings and python is a mess08:51
aisipos_Ok, here's the filed bug: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/440/+edit08:52
aisipos_Apologies if I've made any mistakes in there.08:53
aisipos_Let me try to remove python-dcop and install eric308:53
crimsun\sh: absolutely :<08:53
\shhmmm08:56
aisipos_If i try:  sudo apt-get remove python-dcop08:56
aisipos_I see: The following packages have unmet dependencies:08:56
aisipos_  python2.4-qtext: Depends: python2.4-qt3 (= 3.13-4ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed08:56
aisipos_E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).08:56
\shaisipos_: this is something else...python-dcop shouldn't be installed right now, with issues during preinst08:57
\shaisipos_: i checked it right now08:57
aisipos_\sh: I believe I install python-dcop manually earlier.08:57
crimsunaisipos_: are you using standard Hoary repos?08:58
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aisipos_\sh: I had marillat enabled for a while (disabled now), as well as universe and multiverse08:58
\shaisipos_: try dpkg -r python-dcop08:58
aisipos_\sh: okay, dkpg -r python-dcop doesn't complain.08:59
\shcrimsun: what about putting python2.4-sip4-qt3 as build and run dep for python-dcop?09:00
aisipos_Now eric3 installs!09:00
crimsun\sh: can't do that until we remove the duplicate entry.09:00
crimsun(in python-dcop)09:00
crimsunand I'm not even sure it's a d, much less a b-d09:00
crimsunwill check in the morning, too tired now :<09:01
aisipos_But sadly, it crashes on run. There is a bug about this already: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/414/+edit09:01
\shcrimsun: but this is something for upstream ;)09:01
\shhttp://ianmurdock.com/archives/000244.html <- interessting09:02
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GheRiverores10:01
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\shworking on malone #297 and 29610:11
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\shgrmpf...11:05
\shgcc4 issues without an end in this mysql stuff11:05
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\shdas ogra :)11:42
ograhey \sh11:42
TreenaksDas Ogra?11:42
ograhi all11:42
\shogra: wanna have a surprice?11:42
ogragreetings fromdown under11:42
ogra\sh,  ?11:42
Treenaksogra: how was the non-smoking :)11:42
\shogra: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.blogweb.de11:42
\shsurprise ;)11:43
ograTreenaks, hard, but i didnt kill the stwardess ;)11:43
Treenaksogra: ;)11:43
ogra\sh, applause !11:44
ogra\sh, youre ahaead of me ;) i still run woody11:44
Treenaksogra: ouch11:44
\shogra: i did it...and i found out some pitfalls in server configuration, finally base-config new  installs you a complete workstation after debootstraping11:45
ogra\sh, you have to use server as a bootoption on the cd to install a server11:45
ograhttp://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=HEUROPE-NET,217.115.138.0,217.115.143.25511:45
\shogra: i did it remote :)11:45
ograi'm only third11:46
ogra:(11:46
Treenaksogra: I'm 10th: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=TRANSIP-COLO-868,80.69.68.0,80.69.68.25511:46
\shogra: how can I say to deboostrap or base-config that i want to have a server?11:47
ograTreenaks, heh, what an uptime :)11:47
ogra\sh, no idea...11:47
Treenaksogra: current uptime is 47 days.. it's just that netcraft doesn't know that11:48
ograTreenaks, it obviously knows about a reboot of my server i wasnt informed about by my provider.... i think i'll block the bill for this month11:49
\shogra: finally it's running..even jabberd211:49
\shogra: and my cyrus-imapd 2.2.x problem I solved with an experimental cyrus-imapd source package of debian11:50
ograhmm11:50
\shogra: well, i had to choose, 4gb mail spool in the bin, or rescue ;)11:50
\shtime for lunch11:54
\shlaters11:54
ograok, i'll go off again, internet is very slow and flaky here, if susus comes around, tell her i'll be here again in an hour or so....laters all11:54
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zygahello01:16
zygaif motu still frozen?01:16
\shha..i found a solution for mysql-query-browser...all warnings are errors...so lets disable i01:16
\sht01:16
ajmitchhi zyga01:16
zygaajmitch: hi, I'm trying to get freeciv 2.0 into motu :>01:17
ajmitchaha01:17
ajmitchshouldn't be hard01:17
ajmitchsince freeciv is in debian01:17
ajmitchand the maintainer is often around the ubuntu channels01:18
ograyeah, just sync it if breezy is ready for such stuff01:18
ajmitchdepends if freeciv 2.0 has been packaged yet01:18
zygaajmitch: not yet as it seems01:19
zygaI'd really love to package something01:19
zygabut I'd better try with something smaller01:19
ajmitchplease, package something that isn't already maintained actively in debian :)01:19
ajmitchwe hate to fork packaging01:19
zygaajmitch: don't worry :)01:19
ajmitchVersion: 2.0.0-101:20
ajmitchaha, it's in sid01:20
ogragreat01:20
zygaajmitch: great, so what needs to be done to sync it?01:21
ajmitchwait for the next auto-sync run01:21
zygaajmitch: excellent :-)01:21
ajmitchit was only uploaded in the last day or so01:21
ajmitchDate: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:03:06 +020001:21
ajmitchhmm01:22
ograzyga, breezy currently isnt in a state to just sync packages right away, wait till after the conference01:22
ajmitchthat went to experimental...01:22
ograajmitch, no prob..... we can syc from there01:22
ajmitchjordi was my AM for the debian NM process :)01:22
ograwow, thats a good AM01:23
ajmitch:)01:24
ajmitchjordi is a good guy01:24
Treenakshe is? :P01:25
ograsure01:26
ajmitchhehe01:27
Treenaksogra: whatever you say :P01:28
ogra:P01:28
\shanybody who was the time to upload some stuff of herve and me?01:29
\shoh it looks like herve uploaded already01:30
\shok..next build run of mysql-query-browser...*grmp*01:36
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tsengogra: are you getting out sightseeing this week?01:53
tsengogra: next week looks booked solid01:53
ogratseng, thats why we flew earlier, yes01:55
tsengnice01:55
ograi had a harbor sightseeng today....01:56
ograand went to chinatow for dinner01:56
ogra+n01:56
ajmitchfun :)01:57
tsengyep.01:57
ograyeah01:57
ograsydney is soooo beautiful01:57
ajmitchseems that I'll be meeting up with my boss (or at least I used to do work for him) on sunday01:57
ograhere ?01:58
ajmitchyeah01:58
ajmitchhe's at LCA01:58
ogragreat...01:58
ajmitchpart of the core organising team for lca200601:58
ograwow01:58
ajmitchI'll probably end up getting recruited to do at least something for it01:59
ograheh01:59
ajmitchso I expect to see you in dunedin in january ;)01:59
tsengare we booked on the 30th?02:00
ograhmm....lets see if i can pay the flight02:00
ajmitchyes02:00
tsenghm right02:00
ajmitch6 days of BOFs02:00
Treenaksajmitch: I'll be there02:00
Treenaksajmitch: in Dunedin02:00
ajmitchgreat!02:00
Treenaksajmitch: with the money I make nowadays ;)02:01
tsengogra: heh, show me all the cool stuff on the 24th02:01
ajmitchgah, they're trying to do even more concurrent BOFs02:01
ogratseng, i'll do ;)02:01
ajmitchtseng: when do you arrive in .au?02:01
tsengthe 24th02:01
Treenaksajmitch: though I'll probably stay longer (or come early)02:01
Treenaksajmitch: (when is it again?)02:01
tsengat..02:01
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ajmitchTreenaks: jan 23-rd-29th02:02
ajmitch28th, sorry02:02
Treenaksajmitch: hm.. I might come to NZ for new year then :)02:02
tsengi arrive in sydney at 6:25am02:02
ajmitchheh :)02:02
ajmitchouch02:02
ograargh02:02
ograwith a heavy jetlag i guess02:02
tsengyeah02:02
tsengbut hey02:03
ogratseng, how long is your flight ?02:03
tsengthat leaves the rest of the day to go out02:03
tsengogra: a gazillion hours02:03
ograheh02:03
tseng12+ from LA i think02:03
ajmitchnot far02:03
ograwe flew 22....was really odd02:03
ajmitchtseng: I'd say 18+02:03
tsenghm02:03
ajmitchat a rough guess02:04
tsengwell ill basically be on planes all day02:04
tsengon the 22nd02:04
ograhow many stops `02:04
ogra?02:04
ajmitchFlying Time: 3:1502:04
tsengla and sydney02:04
ajmitch2:55 on the way back for me02:04
ograoh, direct flight02:04
ograthats cool02:04
tsengwell, flying to la02:04
tsengthen to sydne02:04
tsengalmost.02:04
ajmitchhardly long enough for me to read a book ;)02:05
tsengi need to shower and go to work dudes02:05
ajmitchok tseng02:05
tsenggetting later :(02:05
tsengbye02:05
ajmitchogra: partying into the night in sydney? ;)02:05
ograme, now ? noo02:06
ograciao tseng02:06
ajmitchwell it's only 10 there02:06
ograajmitch, still fighting my jetlag.... trying to stay awake as long as i can to not wake up at 5:00 again02:06
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ajmitchah..02:09
ajmitchit's easier for me02:09
ajmitchI get 2 hours extra to sleep in each morning ;)02:09
ograheh02:10
ajmitchI found it hard coming back to NZ in january02:10
ajmitchsince I had to get up at 6am here - my body thought it was 4am .au time02:10
ografrom .au ?02:10
ograah02:11
ajmitchyeah, I spent 6 weeks in melbourne02:11
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ograajmitch, wow, cooool02:12
dholbachha... back again02:12
ajmitchapparantly there's already half a million NZers living in .au anyway02:12
ajmitchhey dholbach !02:12
dholbachhey ajmitch, ogra!02:13
ogradholbach, wow, you didnt look like you would wake up again...02:13
ajmitchhehe02:13
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ajmitchjetlag hitting hard?02:13
dholbachogra: feel much better now :-)02:13
=== ajmitch wonders how he'll get from the airport to his friend's place
dholbachnow doing some keysigning02:13
ograajmitch, we are running around all day since yesterday02:13
ograso its double hard....02:14
ajmitchdoing the tourist thing while you've got time02:14
ogra...trying to stay awake while exhausting your body02:14
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dholbachajmitch: bug your parents, it's what i did02:15
ajmitchhaha02:15
ajmitchmy parents only just got back .au today :)02:16
ajmitchback from02:16
ajmitchthey just spent 2 weeks there02:16
ajmitchit's sometimes cheaper to fly to .au than it is to fly to the other end of NZ02:16
dholbachoh cool, tell them where we are and we'll have a beer with them :-)02:17
dholbachalready met riddell yesterday02:17
ajmitchthey got back to NZ today02:17
ajmitchalthough they would have been in sydney earlier in the morning, I think02:17
dholbachah ok02:17
Riddellwho what me?02:17
dholbachdd02:17
dholbachdidnt read properly02:18
ograRiddell, !!!02:18
ajmitchhey Riddell02:18
dholbachwoohoo, riddell's here02:18
ograjust smoked with a nice scottish girl at the door :)02:18
dholbachhe ROCKS02:18
ajmitchogra: how'd you handle the non-smoking flight? :)02:18
ograespecially his wlan card :P02:18
Treenakswhat about his wlan card?02:19
ograajmitch, it wasnt too hard :) i survived in the end, and the smoking place in singapore is worth a visit ;)02:19
Riddellogra: there are no scottish girls in that youth hostel02:19
ograTreenaks, it works with the router here.... my old orinoco didnt02:19
Riddellogra: was it the sexy ginger one?02:19
ajmitchwe had fun at the backpackers in melbourne02:20
ajmitchogra: should I bring my spare wifi card?02:20
ograRiddell, dunno, she looks good....02:20
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ograajmitch, i think i'll be fine with a sane router in the hotel next week...02:20
ajmitchI'll put it in anyway02:21
ajmitchan old prism2 card :)02:21
Riddellogra: what made you think she was Scottish?02:21
ograRiddell, she is blonde and wasnt srund yesterday02:21
ograshe told me02:22
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Riddelloh, a new girl, hmm hmm02:22
Riddellogra: where was she from?02:22
ajmitchah, time for me to sleep02:22
dholbachsrund?02:22
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ajmitchbye all02:22
ogradumfries and galloway02:23
ograRiddell, ^^02:23
Riddellhmm, nice02:23
Riddellmy arms are all grazed from the surf board, makes it hard to rest them on the desk for typing02:29
ograheh, you were with doko and mvo ?02:33
ograi'll join you tomorrow02:33
ogradholbach, srund ??02:34
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ogradholbac1, srund ??02:35
ograwhat should that mean ?02:35
dholbac1ogra: you said it, before my box crashed02:35
ograahh02:35
ograok...02:35
ogramissed the a again :)02:35
ograshould have been around02:36
dholbac1ah ok02:36
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Treenaksogra: making up for lost time during your flight? :P02:36
\shah dholbach :)02:38
dholbach:-)02:38
\shmysql-query-browser patch 01_ ;)02:38
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\shfor what is it?02:39
\shfixing your forgotten issues ;)02:39
dholbachwhat the problem? is this the name i gave it?02:39
dholbachmust 've been late then... :-/02:39
\sh01_changed_requirements.dpatch02:39
dholbachdunno what i was trying to fix, i think there was something with libgtkhtml02:40
\shu patched everything from automake even the cache ;)02:40
dholbachgot rid of an old version02:40
dholbach<--- does his job properly ;-)02:40
dholbachgood to have somebody review MY packages :-)02:40
\shdholbach: u forgot a category setting in upstreams .desktop file ;)02:40
dholbachi concentrated on the more important issues02:41
dholbachi only touched a .desktop file once02:41
dholbachfor my own package :-)02:41
\shdholbach: I'm trying to fix also the gcc4 issues02:41
dholbachah cool02:41
dholbachit's broken because of c++ stuff i suppose02:42
ogradholbach, hey02:42
dholbachwe have to fix the libraries first#02:42
dholbachwhich i cannot do from here :-)02:42
ogradholbach, you just missed te big farting competition at the reception02:42
ogra(girls against boys)02:43
\shdholbach: no02:43
dholbachoh nice... what place did you make? *roll eyes a bit*02:43
ograhehe02:43
ograi didnt attend... only watched from outside while smoking02:44
ogra(they didnt burn the though)02:44
ogras/the/them02:44
=== ogra goes to pick up another beer upstairs...
\shhmmm.02:48
\shhow can I say dpatch-edit-patch to have more then one basepatch02:48
\shso...i created patch 02 with 01 as base...now i have to create 03 with base 02 and 0102:48
\shok..have it02:50
Riddellsurfing photos up http://jriddell.org/photos/02:52
Riddellprevious page too02:53
ogracool02:54
ograwow, loading a pic takes a about a minute02:55
Riddelluploading took a lot longer02:56
ograheh02:56
ograi thought you had a better connection there02:56
\shlol02:57
\shhttp://jriddell.org/photos/2005-04-18-sydney-geeks-find-internet-oliver-pitti-seb.jpg02:57
\shnice shit02:57
\shaeh shot02:57
\shsry ;)02:57
ograheh02:58
TreenaksGeeks Down Under02:58
ograseb looks great in the backgroud02:58
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\shi think next year we have to have a nice meeting directly on top of table mountain ;)02:59
\shand re-checking IPv4 Pigeon Protocol02:59
ogradepends...02:59
\shu know, to double check alans proof of concept ;)03:00
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\shafter that we have a nice dinner in a small restaurant in one of the suburbs of cape town :) 500 gramm beef filet steaks03:01
\shor crayfish03:01
ogra\sh, not sure if the next conf will be in .sa03:01
ograerr za03:01
\shogra: well...no official meeting :) just holiday ;)03:01
ograah, ok03:01
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\shok well...need to change tapes for nagra03:04
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tritiumGood morning03:13
ograhey tritium03:14
tritiumHey ogra03:14
Treenaksogra: http://keyweed.com/gallery/2001/Australia-3/?imm027.jpg03:14
ograTreenaks, wow, i couldnt imagine that.... it so sunny here all the time03:15
Treenaksogra: that's january03:16
Treenaks(2001)03:16
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ograoh03:16
Treenaksuh no03:16
TreenaksDecember 200103:16
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ogradholbac1, grab some cold beer behind you to cool down the usb stick ;)03:17
Treenakscool down the usb stick???03:17
=== Treenaks WTFs
ograTreenaks, it overheats and kills the box03:18
Treenaksocol03:18
Treenakscool, too03:18
ogranah, rather odd...03:18
Treenaksis it a European stick?03:18
ogradunno03:19
Treenaksmaybe it's not make for Aussie temperatures03:19
ograheh03:19
dholbac1i'll go to bed now03:19
ograits about 20C here currently...(probably warmer upstairs)03:19
dholbac1i'm annoyed03:19
dholbac1:-)03:19
ograbah, have a beer and a cigarette downstairs before ;)03:20
dholbac1sleep tight everyone03:20
tritiumgood night dholbac103:20
ogranight dholbac103:20
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\shok...looks like that I have resolved the issues with gcc404:18
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Treenaks\o.04:19
Treenaks\o/04:19
Treenakssorry04:19
Treenaksthat first one looks so wrong..)04:19
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=== Amaranth wonders why tomboy depends on a -dev package
Amaranthoh, libdbus-cil does05:00
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\shhmmm...anyone up for loading?05:10
\shor reviewing and loading?05:10
=== matth echos sh
\shi have a bunch of things to upload (are reviewed by master-reviewer herve) ;) and one package for reviewing and uploading ;)05:12
\shu will find diff.gz + .dsc for malone #411,#346,#297 on http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/ (no archive)05:13
\sh*smoking*05:14
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\shhp wants to give a special ubuntu linux distro to their laptops..they don't want to force their customers to buy a windows xp version ;)05:38
\sharticle in german on heise: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/5874005:38
fabbioneguys i am going to upload a couple of packages to universe05:44
fabbioneanybody wants to review them, before i do so?05:44
fabbionethey are NEW05:44
jbaileyI keep meaning to figure out the rules for that.05:45
fabbionejbailey: that's simple...05:45
jbaileyI need to upload klibc.  It needs to wind up in main eventually, but I figured it should upload to universe first.05:45
fabbioneeverything that is not specifically forced into main, will land in universe :)05:45
jbaileyNo, I mean in terms of interacting with the MOTU team.05:45
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zulyo05:46
fabbionewell... i don't think there is a specific way05:46
\shok...will go home now...laters05:46
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bddebianHowdy06:02
darkaudithabemus papum :)06:06
bddebianHambuger with fries?06:08
bddebian;-)06:08
darkauditturn on CNN... or just about any channel rt now...06:11
bddebianI have no interest in Pope related garbage but thank you.06:12
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WebMavenHi folks.06:23
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WebMavenwhat does it mean if a package has a page like this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe06:24
WebMavenbut isn't listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/ ?06:24
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WebMavenSorry about that.06:44
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WebMavenIf I missed a reply someone made to my question, could you repeat it?06:45
WebMavenI'm trying to install kernel-patch-mppe, but Synaptic can't find it (I have universe repos enabled).06:46
WebMavenSo I went looking, and found that the package has a page here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe06:46
WebMavenbut that it isn't listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/06:47
WebMavenand I was wondering if this was significant.06:47
WebMavenAnyone?06:48
WebMavenHello?06:49
WebMavenIs anyone here?07:03
bddebianI'm here but I'm clueless, sorry :-)07:13
\shme too (c) aol.com07:15
WebMavenOK.07:15
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WebMavenThis is annoying. I can't figure out why the package isn't available to be installed.07:36
WebMaventhe archive *says* it's there, but apt-get and synaptic can't see it.07:36
\shaehm07:37
\shnoe binary package07:38
\shonly source07:38
\shtry apt-get source kernel-patch-mppe07:38
WebMavenI did.07:38
WebMavenroot@journeyman:/home/webmaven #  apt-get source -b kernel-patch-mppe07:39
WebMavenReading package lists... Done07:39
WebMavenBuilding dependency tree... Done07:39
WebMavenE: Unable to find a source package for kernel-patch-mppe07:39
\shhehe07:40
\shshermann@shermann-laptop:~/test$ apt-cache search mppe07:40
\shpptp-linux - Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP) Client07:40
WebMavenI *have* that installed.07:40
WebMavenit needs the mppe package to work with MS VPNs.07:41
\shdownload the source files from the page and build it07:41
WebMavenbut the packages exist: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe07:42
WebMavenhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/source/kernel-patch-mppe07:42
zulWebMaven: there is ppp-mmpe in the kernel already07:43
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hervehello07:43
\shhey herve07:43
WebMavenzul, so, you're saying the kernel-patch-mppe package is obsolete?07:43
zulyes..07:44
WebMavenso, the description in the pptp-linux package is wrong.07:44
zulchuck@oxdev:~/work/ubuntu/linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10/debian/patches$ ls *mppe*07:44
zulmppe.dpatch07:44
zulnot sure but it might be07:45
WebMavenzul, I'm using the k7 kernel, would that be any different?07:46
WebMavenThis is part of the pptp-linux description: "MPPE (Microsoft Point-to-Point Encryption) support requires07:47
WebMavenan additionnal kernel module, provided by package kernel-patch-mppe."07:47
zulWebMaven: it isnt any different and the description could be wrong i havent looked at the package07:51
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\shok...applied 1.0.19-1 patch to 1.0.20-1 mysql-admin08:34
\shand this should fix gcc4 issues08:34
herveyes, the newest mysql-admin08:34
hervethanks :-)08:34
\shif this is working i have to send it to bugs.debian08:35
\shherve: on my wiki page is a list of malone fixes ;)08:35
\shthere should be a todo tool on ubuntulinux.com ;)08:35
\sh1 fix == 1  or 2 US$ ,->08:36
\shand mysql-query-browser I disabled only the -Werror for the gtksourceview thingy08:37
\shwell..done08:39
\shworking08:39
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\shherve: catch your mysql-admin on http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/mysql-admin/ ;)09:11
hervelater, I'm cooking for now :-)09:16
\shhehe...09:16
\shok, now i have to take some packages for myself...proxy65/pyicq-t/pymsn-t/pyaim-t09:17
herveI have a nice challenge if you like mysteries... :-09:17
\shwell...i have to get my transports running for my jabberd2 server09:18
\shand there r no packages for it :( well, they're frightend to do python+twisted tapped packages ;)09:18
\shbut tell me the challenge :)09:18
hervesame versions of dia09:20
hervethe one from debian produces nice PS exports09:20
hervethe one from ubuntu produces messed up PS exports09:20
\shusing GS?09:21
herveI don't know how it produces it09:21
hervebut if I install the debian binary packages09:21
hervethey use the same current gs as the ubuntu one09:21
herveso I guess the difference is in build deps09:22
hervehmm... something I haven't tried... installing ubuntu ones on debian and testing the export09:22
AstralJavaherve: How is it messed up?09:24
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AstralJavaherve: Gotta go, but I did a quick try in Ubuntu and Dia produced a perfect *.eps export. Not sure if that's what you meant though. I'll be back tomorrow.09:39
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hervere09:48
=== herve trying to invent a new cook recipe :-)
\shI'm getting hungry09:50
hervebe patient09:50
herveit's not baken yet :-)09:50
\shhttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=30184409:51
hervenice09:52
hervebut is the patch for desktop in the right place,09:52
herve?09:52
\shyeah09:53
\shi made the 02 patch with 0109:53
\shso i had to provide it ;)09:53
herveI mean09:53
hervethe patch is about build failure09:53
herveso fixing the desktop entry doesn't seem revelant09:54
\shthe 02-gcc409:54
\shthere r two09:54
herveyes but you don't need 01 for fixing the build failure?09:54
\sh02-gcc4.dpatch is the patch from andreas against 1.0.2009:54
hervehe he...10:22
herve\sh, ?10:22
\shjepp...trying to start my new proxy6510:24
herveI have a clue for my dia mystery10:25
hervecheck that diff: http://deb.oursours.net/motu/l10n.diff10:25
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\shjepp10:28
\shits localised ;)10:28
\sh, instead of . for decimal10:29
hervenice bug, eh?10:29
\shhmmm10:29
\shwho is wrong?10:30
\shdebian upstream or ubuntu..who made the locale patch?10:30
herveanyway, autobuilders are not localized10:31
hervethis means my package could compile10:31
hervethis means my work can enter ubuntu :-)10:31
hervedia compiled in Debian is not sensible to locales10:37
herveI wonder if the ubuntu-devel list will be interested10:38
herveor they will redirect me to malone immediately...10:38
\shok proxy65 package is ready10:51
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blueyedHi. I've found a problem with fontconfig in breezy. (Or is this channel about the universe repo only?)11:15
herveI reported the bug in malone11:17
herveand yes, we are the masters of the universe :-)11:17
blueyedWhat is malone, herve?11:18
herveour bugtracker11:19
hervehttps://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu11:19
blueyedFine, thanks. But fontconfig is not in the universe repos, is it?11:20
herveno it isn't11:21
\shherve: btw. http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/9-Hewlett-Packard-and-Ubuntu-Linux.html11:21
hervebut malone is for whole ubuntu and even more11:22
\shcame today over german heise ticker11:22
hervelike the city of Hamburg has chosen a Debian based solution ;-)11:22
blueyedso, herve, what is the difeerence between malone and bugzilla then? between stable / development branch?11:23
\shherve: i didn't know ;)11:23
herveblueyed, malone is overall simpler to use for the average people11:24
hervebut quite young at the moment11:24
hervegood night all!11:27
\shcu herve11:27
blueyedbye herve.11:28
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