[04:36] <zul> bleah
[05:50] <fabbione> morning
[05:50] <crimsun> morning :)
[06:28] <tseng> bah
[06:28] <tseng> morning :(
[06:29] <schweeb> tseng: please tell me you haven't slept yet
[06:29] <tseng> i have
[06:29] <tseng> and woke up again somehow
[06:29] <tseng> in 6 hours ill be up again
[06:30] <tseng> i like to get my full 8 hours
[06:31] <schweeb> ugh
[06:32] <tseng> ugh yourself
[06:35] <tseng> hi or
[06:35] <tseng> ogra:
[06:36] <tseng> hi dholbach
[06:36] <dholbach> hai
[06:37] <JanC> Amaranth ?
[06:37] <ogra> hey tseng
[06:37] <ogra> tseng, bring summer clothes with you, its very warm here
[06:38] <ajmitch> ogra: hopefully warmer than here
[06:38] <sladen> I thought it was supposed to be winter in Oz?
[06:38] <ogra> over 30 degree celisius yesterday
[06:38] <ajmitch> sladen: autumn
[06:38] <ogra> only about 25 today
[06:38] <ajmitch> heh
[06:39] <dholbach> how are you all?
[06:39] <ajmitch> alright
[06:39] <ogra> but sunny all the time
[06:39] <ajmitch> keen to get away from dunedin & get over to sydney :)
[06:39] <ajmitch> ogra: that may change..
[06:39] <ogra> ajmitch, nah...
[06:39] <ogra> (i dont want it to change )
[06:40] <ajmitch> hehe :)
[06:40] <schweeb> dholbach: it's very warm here too, I'm sweatin my arse off
[06:40] <tseng> so im using mutt :(
[06:41] <tseng> schweeb: thats what woke me up, its hot as hell
[06:41] <schweeb> 16C here right now
[06:41] <ogra> whats wrong with 16C ?
[06:42] <ogra> its not really hot...
[06:42] <schweeb> it's 1am, in April
[06:42] <schweeb> in MI
[06:42] <schweeb> that's boiling hot
[06:42] <ogra> ok :)
[06:42] <schweeb> it should be about 4 or 5C out
[06:42] <schweeb> heh
[06:44] <JanC> it's 3C here now  :-/
[06:45] <schweeb> where's here?
[06:45] <JanC> well, it's 3C in Ostend, which is 15 km from here (which is Bruges)
[06:46] <JanC> (according to some gnome-panel weather-applet
[06:46] <JanC> :)
[08:02] <aisipos> Is this a good place to report problems installing eric3 on ubuntu?
[08:02] <crimsun> I get no such problems, aisipos
[08:02] <ogra> aisipos, use malone (url is in the topic)
[08:05] <aisipos> I'll happily report a bug there, just wanted to ensure there wasn't one already. The search box doesn't seem to work for me there.
[08:06] <crimsun> sure, go aheda.
[08:06] <crimsun> it's puzzling that you get those errors, though, because I don't.
[08:06] <crimsun> gonna test with a dist-upgrade from warty.
[08:07] <aisipos> I have universe and multiverse installed, and have installed kubuntu-desktop, somehow something is screwy.
[08:07] <aisipos> Looks like a package is duplicated in python-dcop.
[08:08] <aisipos> But I'm no expert at .debs
[08:15] <crimsun> aisipos: ok, hang on.
[08:17] <crimsun> aisipos: apt-cache policy python-dcop
[08:38] <aisipos_> crimsum: apologies, my client (chatzilla) was hanging. Can you repeat your instructions about python-dcop please?
[08:39] <aisipos_> crimsun: apologies, my client (chatzilla) was hanging. Can you repeat your instructions about python-dcop please?
[08:39] <crimsun> aisipos_: please file a bug in malone about python-dcop
[08:39] <crimsun> aisipos_: (I've confirmed the bug you see)
[08:40] <aisipos_> crimsun: Any advice on which command outputs to include?
[08:41] <aisipos_> crimsun: Also, for the summary, is "Problems installing eric3" a useful summary?
[08:42] <crimsun> aisipos_: it's not related to eric3
[08:42] <crimsun> aisipos_: the problem is that python-dcop erroneously contains a file that's also in python2.4-sip4-qt3
[08:43] <crimsun> aisipos_: in fact, if you remove/purge python-dcop, eric3 installs fine
[08:44] <aisipos_> crimsun: Ok, I'll use summary ' Duplicate file with python2.4-sip4-qt3'
[08:44] <aisipos_> crimsun: But what command output should I include in the description?
[08:44] <crimsun> the output from dpkg
[08:45] <crimsun> namely:   (sorry about pending flood)
[08:45] <crimsun> Unpacking python-dcop (from .../python-dcop_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ...
[08:45] <crimsun> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-dcop_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[08:45] <crimsun>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/sip.so', which is also in package python2.4-sip4-qt3
[08:45] <crimsun> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[08:47] <aisipos_> Hmm, malone doesn't see python-dcop as a valid 'source package name'
[08:48] <aisipos_> I'm filing from here: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/+package
[08:49] <crimsun> kdebindings is the source package's name
[08:49] <crimsun> (apt-cache showsrc python-dcop)
[08:51] <\sh> crimsun: kdebindings and python is a mess
[08:52] <aisipos_> Ok, here's the filed bug: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/440/+edit
[08:53] <aisipos_> Apologies if I've made any mistakes in there.
[08:53] <aisipos_> Let me try to remove python-dcop and install eric3
[08:53] <crimsun> \sh: absolutely :<
[08:56] <\sh> hmmm
[08:56] <aisipos_> If i try:  sudo apt-get remove python-dcop
[08:56] <aisipos_> I see: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:56] <aisipos_>   python2.4-qtext: Depends: python2.4-qt3 (= 3.13-4ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[08:56] <aisipos_> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:57] <\sh> aisipos_: this is something else...python-dcop shouldn't be installed right now, with issues during preinst
[08:57] <\sh> aisipos_: i checked it right now
[08:57] <aisipos_> \sh: I believe I install python-dcop manually earlier.
[08:58] <crimsun> aisipos_: are you using standard Hoary repos?
[08:58] <aisipos_> \sh: I had marillat enabled for a while (disabled now), as well as universe and multiverse
[08:58] <\sh> aisipos_: try dpkg -r python-dcop
[08:59] <aisipos_> \sh: okay, dkpg -r python-dcop doesn't complain.
[09:00] <\sh> crimsun: what about putting python2.4-sip4-qt3 as build and run dep for python-dcop?
[09:00] <aisipos_> Now eric3 installs!
[09:00] <crimsun> \sh: can't do that until we remove the duplicate entry.
[09:00] <crimsun> (in python-dcop)
[09:00] <crimsun> and I'm not even sure it's a d, much less a b-d
[09:01] <crimsun> will check in the morning, too tired now :<
[09:01] <aisipos_> But sadly, it crashes on run. There is a bug about this already: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/414/+edit
[09:01] <\sh> crimsun: but this is something for upstream ;)
[09:02] <\sh> http://ianmurdock.com/archives/000244.html <- interessting
[10:01] <GheRivero> res
[10:11] <\sh> working on malone #297 and 296
[11:05] <\sh> grmpf...
[11:05] <\sh> gcc4 issues without an end in this mysql stuff
[11:42] <\sh> das ogra :)
[11:42] <ogra> hey \sh
[11:42] <Treenaks> Das Ogra?
[11:42] <ogra> hi all
[11:42] <\sh> ogra: wanna have a surprice?
[11:42] <ogra> greetings fromdown under
[11:42] <ogra> \sh,  ?
[11:42] <Treenaks> ogra: how was the non-smoking :)
[11:42] <\sh> ogra: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.blogweb.de
[11:43] <\sh> surprise ;)
[11:43] <ogra> Treenaks, hard, but i didnt kill the stwardess ;)
[11:43] <Treenaks> ogra: ;)
[11:44] <ogra> \sh, applause !
[11:44] <ogra> \sh, youre ahaead of me ;) i still run woody
[11:44] <Treenaks> ogra: ouch
[11:45] <\sh> ogra: i did it...and i found out some pitfalls in server configuration, finally base-config new  installs you a complete workstation after debootstraping
[11:45] <ogra> \sh, you have to use server as a bootoption on the cd to install a server
[11:45] <ogra> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=HEUROPE-NET,217.115.138.0,217.115.143.255
[11:45] <\sh> ogra: i did it remote :)
[11:46] <ogra> i'm only third
[11:46] <ogra> :(
[11:46] <Treenaks> ogra: I'm 10th: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=TRANSIP-COLO-868,80.69.68.0,80.69.68.255
[11:47] <\sh> ogra: how can I say to deboostrap or base-config that i want to have a server?
[11:47] <ogra> Treenaks, heh, what an uptime :)
[11:47] <ogra> \sh, no idea...
[11:48] <Treenaks> ogra: current uptime is 47 days.. it's just that netcraft doesn't know that
[11:49] <ogra> Treenaks, it obviously knows about a reboot of my server i wasnt informed about by my provider.... i think i'll block the bill for this month
[11:49] <\sh> ogra: finally it's running..even jabberd2
[11:50] <\sh> ogra: and my cyrus-imapd 2.2.x problem I solved with an experimental cyrus-imapd source package of debian
[11:50] <ogra> hmm
[11:50] <\sh> ogra: well, i had to choose, 4gb mail spool in the bin, or rescue ;)
[11:54] <\sh> time for lunch
[11:54] <\sh> laters
[11:54] <ogra> ok, i'll go off again, internet is very slow and flaky here, if susus comes around, tell her i'll be here again in an hour or so....laters all
[01:16] <zyga> hello
[01:16] <zyga> if motu still frozen?
[01:16] <\sh> ha..i found a solution for mysql-query-browser...all warnings are errors...so lets disable i
[01:16] <\sh> t
[01:16] <ajmitch> hi zyga
[01:17] <zyga> ajmitch: hi, I'm trying to get freeciv 2.0 into motu :>
[01:17] <ajmitch> aha
[01:17] <ajmitch> shouldn't be hard
[01:17] <ajmitch> since freeciv is in debian
[01:18] <ajmitch> and the maintainer is often around the ubuntu channels
[01:18] <ogra> yeah, just sync it if breezy is ready for such stuff
[01:18] <ajmitch> depends if freeciv 2.0 has been packaged yet
[01:19] <zyga> ajmitch: not yet as it seems
[01:19] <zyga> I'd really love to package something
[01:19] <zyga> but I'd better try with something smaller
[01:19] <ajmitch> please, package something that isn't already maintained actively in debian :)
[01:19] <ajmitch> we hate to fork packaging
[01:19] <zyga> ajmitch: don't worry :)
[01:20] <ajmitch> Version: 2.0.0-1
[01:20] <ajmitch> aha, it's in sid
[01:20] <ogra> great
[01:21] <zyga> ajmitch: great, so what needs to be done to sync it?
[01:21] <ajmitch> wait for the next auto-sync run
[01:21] <zyga> ajmitch: excellent :-)
[01:21] <ajmitch> it was only uploaded in the last day or so
[01:21] <ajmitch> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:03:06 +0200
[01:22] <ajmitch> hmm
[01:22] <ogra> zyga, breezy currently isnt in a state to just sync packages right away, wait till after the conference
[01:22] <ajmitch> that went to experimental...
[01:22] <ogra> ajmitch, no prob..... we can syc from there
[01:22] <ajmitch> jordi was my AM for the debian NM process :)
[01:23] <ogra> wow, thats a good AM
[01:24] <ajmitch> :)
[01:24] <ajmitch> jordi is a good guy
[01:25] <Treenaks> he is? :P
[01:26] <ogra> sure
[01:27] <ajmitch> hehe
[01:28] <Treenaks> ogra: whatever you say :P
[01:28] <ogra> :P
[01:29] <\sh> anybody who was the time to upload some stuff of herve and me?
[01:30] <\sh> oh it looks like herve uploaded already
[01:36] <\sh> ok..next build run of mysql-query-browser...*grmp*
[01:53] <tseng> ogra: are you getting out sightseeing this week?
[01:53] <tseng> ogra: next week looks booked solid
[01:55] <ogra> tseng, thats why we flew earlier, yes
[01:55] <tseng> nice
[01:56] <ogra> i had a harbor sightseeng today....
[01:56] <ogra> and went to chinatow for dinner
[01:56] <ogra> +n
[01:57] <ajmitch> fun :)
[01:57] <tseng> yep.
[01:57] <ogra> yeah
[01:57] <ogra> sydney is soooo beautiful
[01:57] <ajmitch> seems that I'll be meeting up with my boss (or at least I used to do work for him) on sunday
[01:58] <ogra> here ?
[01:58] <ajmitch> yeah
[01:58] <ajmitch> he's at LCA
[01:58] <ogra> great...
[01:58] <ajmitch> part of the core organising team for lca2006
[01:58] <ogra> wow
[01:59] <ajmitch> I'll probably end up getting recruited to do at least something for it
[01:59] <ogra> heh
[01:59] <ajmitch> so I expect to see you in dunedin in january ;)
[02:00] <tseng> are we booked on the 30th?
[02:00] <ogra> hmm....lets see if i can pay the flight
[02:00] <ajmitch> yes
[02:00] <tseng> hm right
[02:00] <ajmitch> 6 days of BOFs
[02:00] <Treenaks> ajmitch: I'll be there
[02:00] <Treenaks> ajmitch: in Dunedin
[02:00] <ajmitch> great!
[02:01] <Treenaks> ajmitch: with the money I make nowadays ;)
[02:01] <tseng> ogra: heh, show me all the cool stuff on the 24th
[02:01] <ajmitch> gah, they're trying to do even more concurrent BOFs
[02:01] <ogra> tseng, i'll do ;)
[02:01] <ajmitch> tseng: when do you arrive in .au?
[02:01] <tseng> the 24th
[02:01] <Treenaks> ajmitch: though I'll probably stay longer (or come early)
[02:01] <Treenaks> ajmitch: (when is it again?)
[02:01] <tseng> at..
[02:02] <ajmitch> Treenaks: jan 23-rd-29th
[02:02] <ajmitch> 28th, sorry
[02:02] <Treenaks> ajmitch: hm.. I might come to NZ for new year then :)
[02:02] <tseng> i arrive in sydney at 6:25am
[02:02] <ajmitch> heh :)
[02:02] <ajmitch> ouch
[02:02] <ogra> argh
[02:02] <ogra> with a heavy jetlag i guess
[02:02] <tseng> yeah
[02:03] <tseng> but hey
[02:03] <ogra> tseng, how long is your flight ?
[02:03] <tseng> that leaves the rest of the day to go out
[02:03] <tseng> ogra: a gazillion hours
[02:03] <ogra> heh
[02:03] <tseng> 12+ from LA i think
[02:03] <ajmitch> not far
[02:03] <ogra> we flew 22....was really odd
[02:03] <ajmitch> tseng: I'd say 18+
[02:03] <tseng> hm
[02:04] <ajmitch> at a rough guess
[02:04] <tseng> well ill basically be on planes all day
[02:04] <tseng> on the 22nd
[02:04] <ogra> how many stops `
[02:04] <ogra> ?
[02:04] <ajmitch> Flying Time: 	3:15
[02:04] <tseng> la and sydney
[02:04] <ajmitch> 2:55 on the way back for me
[02:04] <ogra> oh, direct flight
[02:04] <ogra> thats cool
[02:04] <tseng> well, flying to la
[02:04] <tseng> then to sydne
[02:04] <tseng> almost.
[02:05] <ajmitch> hardly long enough for me to read a book ;)
[02:05] <tseng> i need to shower and go to work dudes
[02:05] <ajmitch> ok tseng
[02:05] <tseng> getting later :(
[02:05] <tseng> bye
[02:05] <ajmitch> ogra: partying into the night in sydney? ;)
[02:06] <ogra> me, now ? noo
[02:06] <ogra> ciao tseng
[02:06] <ajmitch> well it's only 10 there
[02:06] <ogra> ajmitch, still fighting my jetlag.... trying to stay awake as long as i can to not wake up at 5:00 again
[02:09] <ajmitch> ah..
[02:09] <ajmitch> it's easier for me
[02:09] <ajmitch> I get 2 hours extra to sleep in each morning ;)
[02:10] <ogra> heh
[02:10] <ajmitch> I found it hard coming back to NZ in january
[02:10] <ajmitch> since I had to get up at 6am here - my body thought it was 4am .au time
[02:10] <ogra> from .au ?
[02:11] <ogra> ah
[02:11] <ajmitch> yeah, I spent 6 weeks in melbourne
[02:12] <ogra> ajmitch, wow, cooool
[02:12] <dholbach> ha... back again
[02:12] <ajmitch> apparantly there's already half a million NZers living in .au anyway
[02:12] <ajmitch> hey dholbach !
[02:13] <dholbach> hey ajmitch, ogra!
[02:13] <ogra> dholbach, wow, you didnt look like you would wake up again...
[02:13] <ajmitch> hehe
[02:13] <ajmitch> jetlag hitting hard?
[02:13] <dholbach> ogra: feel much better now :-)
[02:13] <dholbach> now doing some keysigning
[02:13] <ogra> ajmitch, we are running around all day since yesterday
[02:14] <ogra> so its double hard....
[02:14] <ajmitch> doing the tourist thing while you've got time
[02:14] <ogra> ...trying to stay awake while exhausting your body
[02:15] <dholbach> ajmitch: bug your parents, it's what i did
[02:15] <ajmitch> haha
[02:16] <ajmitch> my parents only just got back .au today :)
[02:16] <ajmitch> back from
[02:16] <ajmitch> they just spent 2 weeks there
[02:16] <ajmitch> it's sometimes cheaper to fly to .au than it is to fly to the other end of NZ
[02:17] <dholbach> oh cool, tell them where we are and we'll have a beer with them :-)
[02:17] <dholbach> already met riddell yesterday
[02:17] <ajmitch> they got back to NZ today
[02:17] <ajmitch> although they would have been in sydney earlier in the morning, I think
[02:17] <dholbach> ah ok
[02:17] <Riddell> who what me?
[02:17] <dholbach> dd
[02:18] <dholbach> didnt read properly
[02:18] <ogra> Riddell, !!!
[02:18] <ajmitch> hey Riddell
[02:18] <dholbach> woohoo, riddell's here
[02:18] <ogra> just smoked with a nice scottish girl at the door :)
[02:18] <dholbach> he ROCKS
[02:18] <ajmitch> ogra: how'd you handle the non-smoking flight? :)
[02:18] <ogra> especially his wlan card :P
[02:19] <Treenaks> what about his wlan card?
[02:19] <ogra> ajmitch, it wasnt too hard :) i survived in the end, and the smoking place in singapore is worth a visit ;)
[02:19] <Riddell> ogra: there are no scottish girls in that youth hostel
[02:19] <ogra> Treenaks, it works with the router here.... my old orinoco didnt
[02:19] <Riddell> ogra: was it the sexy ginger one?
[02:20] <ajmitch> we had fun at the backpackers in melbourne
[02:20] <ajmitch> ogra: should I bring my spare wifi card?
[02:20] <ogra> Riddell, dunno, she looks good....
[02:20] <ogra> ajmitch, i think i'll be fine with a sane router in the hotel next week...
[02:21] <ajmitch> I'll put it in anyway
[02:21] <ajmitch> an old prism2 card :)
[02:21] <Riddell> ogra: what made you think she was Scottish?
[02:21] <ogra> Riddell, she is blonde and wasnt srund yesterday
[02:22] <ogra> she told me
[02:22] <Riddell> oh, a new girl, hmm hmm
[02:22] <Riddell> ogra: where was she from?
[02:22] <ajmitch> ah, time for me to sleep
[02:22] <dholbach> srund?
[02:22] <ajmitch> bye all
[02:23] <ogra> dumfries and galloway
[02:23] <ogra> Riddell, ^^
[02:23] <Riddell> hmm, nice
[02:29] <Riddell> my arms are all grazed from the surf board, makes it hard to rest them on the desk for typing
[02:33] <ogra> heh, you were with doko and mvo ?
[02:33] <ogra> i'll join you tomorrow
[02:34] <ogra> dholbach, srund ??
[02:35] <ogra> dholbac1, srund ??
[02:35] <ogra> what should that mean ?
[02:35] <dholbac1> ogra: you said it, before my box crashed
[02:35] <ogra> ahh
[02:35] <ogra> ok...
[02:35] <ogra> missed the a again :)
[02:36] <ogra> should have been around
[02:36] <dholbac1> ah ok
[02:36] <Treenaks> ogra: making up for lost time during your flight? :P
[02:38] <\sh> ah dholbach :)
[02:38] <dholbach> :-)
[02:38] <\sh> mysql-query-browser patch 01_ ;)
[02:39] <\sh> for what is it?
[02:39] <\sh> fixing your forgotten issues ;)
[02:39] <dholbach> what the problem? is this the name i gave it?
[02:39] <dholbach> must 've been late then... :-/
[02:39] <\sh> 01_changed_requirements.dpatch
[02:40] <dholbach> dunno what i was trying to fix, i think there was something with libgtkhtml
[02:40] <\sh> u patched everything from automake even the cache ;)
[02:40] <dholbach> got rid of an old version
[02:40] <dholbach> <--- does his job properly ;-)
[02:40] <dholbach> good to have somebody review MY packages :-)
[02:40] <\sh> dholbach: u forgot a category setting in upstreams .desktop file ;)
[02:41] <dholbach> i concentrated on the more important issues
[02:41] <dholbach> i only touched a .desktop file once
[02:41] <dholbach> for my own package :-)
[02:41] <\sh> dholbach: I'm trying to fix also the gcc4 issues
[02:41] <dholbach> ah cool
[02:42] <dholbach> it's broken because of c++ stuff i suppose
[02:42] <ogra> dholbach, hey
[02:42] <dholbach> we have to fix the libraries first#
[02:42] <dholbach> which i cannot do from here :-)
[02:42] <ogra> dholbach, you just missed te big farting competition at the reception
[02:43] <ogra> (girls against boys)
[02:43] <\sh> dholbach: no
[02:43] <dholbach> oh nice... what place did you make? *roll eyes a bit*
[02:43] <ogra> hehe
[02:44] <ogra> i didnt attend... only watched from outside while smoking
[02:44] <ogra> (they didnt burn the though)
[02:44] <ogra> s/the/them
[02:48] <\sh> hmmm.
[02:48] <\sh> how can I say dpatch-edit-patch to have more then one basepatch
[02:48] <\sh> so...i created patch 02 with 01 as base...now i have to create 03 with base 02 and 01
[02:50] <\sh> ok..have it
[02:52] <Riddell> surfing photos up http://jriddell.org/photos/
[02:53] <Riddell> previous page too
[02:54] <ogra> cool
[02:55] <ogra> wow, loading a pic takes a about a minute
[02:56] <Riddell> uploading took a lot longer
[02:56] <ogra> heh
[02:56] <ogra> i thought you had a better connection there
[02:57] <\sh> lol
[02:57] <\sh> http://jriddell.org/photos/2005-04-18-sydney-geeks-find-internet-oliver-pitti-seb.jpg
[02:57] <\sh> nice shit
[02:57] <\sh> aeh shot
[02:57] <\sh> sry ;)
[02:58] <ogra> heh
[02:58] <Treenaks> Geeks Down Under
[02:58] <ogra> seb looks great in the backgroud
[02:59] <\sh> i think next year we have to have a nice meeting directly on top of table mountain ;)
[02:59] <\sh> and re-checking IPv4 Pigeon Protocol
[02:59] <ogra> depends...
[03:00] <\sh> u know, to double check alans proof of concept ;)
[03:01] <\sh> after that we have a nice dinner in a small restaurant in one of the suburbs of cape town :) 500 gramm beef filet steaks
[03:01] <\sh> or crayfish
[03:01] <ogra> \sh, not sure if the next conf will be in .sa
[03:01] <ogra> err za
[03:01] <\sh> ogra: well...no official meeting :) just holiday ;)
[03:01] <ogra> ah, ok
[03:04] <\sh> ok well...need to change tapes for nagra
[03:13] <tritium> Good morning
[03:14] <ogra> hey tritium
[03:14] <tritium> Hey ogra
[03:14] <Treenaks> ogra: http://keyweed.com/gallery/2001/Australia-3/?imm027.jpg
[03:15] <ogra> Treenaks, wow, i couldnt imagine that.... it so sunny here all the time
[03:16] <Treenaks> ogra: that's january
[03:16] <Treenaks> (2001)
[03:16] <ogra> oh
[03:16] <Treenaks> uh no
[03:16] <Treenaks> December 2001
[03:17] <ogra> dholbac1, grab some cold beer behind you to cool down the usb stick ;)
[03:17] <Treenaks> cool down the usb stick???
[03:18] <ogra> Treenaks, it overheats and kills the box
[03:18] <Treenaks> ocol
[03:18] <Treenaks> cool, too
[03:18] <ogra> nah, rather odd...
[03:18] <Treenaks> is it a European stick?
[03:19] <ogra> dunno
[03:19] <Treenaks> maybe it's not make for Aussie temperatures
[03:19] <ogra> heh
[03:19] <dholbac1> i'll go to bed now
[03:19] <ogra> its about 20C here currently...(probably warmer upstairs)
[03:19] <dholbac1> i'm annoyed
[03:19] <dholbac1> :-)
[03:20] <ogra> bah, have a beer and a cigarette downstairs before ;)
[03:20] <dholbac1> sleep tight everyone
[03:20] <tritium> good night dholbac1
[03:20] <ogra> night dholbac1
[04:18] <\sh> ok...looks like that I have resolved the issues with gcc4
[04:19] <Treenaks> \o.
[04:19] <Treenaks> \o/
[04:19] <Treenaks> sorry
[04:19] <Treenaks> that first one looks so wrong..)
[05:00] <Amaranth> oh, libdbus-cil does
[05:10] <\sh> hmmm...anyone up for loading?
[05:10] <\sh> or reviewing and loading?
[05:12] <\sh> i have a bunch of things to upload (are reviewed by master-reviewer herve) ;) and one package for reviewing and uploading ;)
[05:13] <\sh> u will find diff.gz + .dsc for malone #411,#346,#297 on http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/ (no archive)
[05:14] <\sh> *smoking*
[05:38] <\sh> hp wants to give a special ubuntu linux distro to their laptops..they don't want to force their customers to buy a windows xp version ;)
[05:38] <\sh> article in german on heise: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/58740
[05:44] <fabbione> guys i am going to upload a couple of packages to universe
[05:44] <fabbione> anybody wants to review them, before i do so?
[05:44] <fabbione> they are NEW
[05:45] <jbailey> I keep meaning to figure out the rules for that.
[05:45] <fabbione> jbailey: that's simple...
[05:45] <jbailey> I need to upload klibc.  It needs to wind up in main eventually, but I figured it should upload to universe first.
[05:45] <fabbione> everything that is not specifically forced into main, will land in universe :)
[05:45] <jbailey> No, I mean in terms of interacting with the MOTU team.
[05:46] <zul> yo
[05:46] <fabbione> well... i don't think there is a specific way
[05:46] <\sh> ok...will go home now...laters
[06:02] <bddebian> Howdy
[06:06] <darkaudit> habemus papum :)
[06:08] <bddebian> Hambuger with fries?
[06:08] <bddebian> ;-)
[06:11] <darkaudit> turn on CNN... or just about any channel rt now...
[06:12] <bddebian> I have no interest in Pope related garbage but thank you.
[06:23] <WebMaven> Hi folks.
[06:24] <WebMaven> what does it mean if a package has a page like this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe
[06:24] <WebMaven> but isn't listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/ ?
[06:44] <WebMaven> Sorry about that.
[06:45] <WebMaven> If I missed a reply someone made to my question, could you repeat it?
[06:46] <WebMaven> I'm trying to install kernel-patch-mppe, but Synaptic can't find it (I have universe repos enabled).
[06:46] <WebMaven> So I went looking, and found that the package has a page here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe
[06:47] <WebMaven> but that it isn't listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/
[06:47] <WebMaven> and I was wondering if this was significant.
[06:48] <WebMaven> Anyone?
[06:49] <WebMaven> Hello?
[07:03] <WebMaven> Is anyone here?
[07:13] <bddebian> I'm here but I'm clueless, sorry :-)
[07:15] <\sh> me too (c) aol.com
[07:15] <WebMaven> OK.
[07:36] <WebMaven> This is annoying. I can't figure out why the package isn't available to be installed.
[07:36] <WebMaven> the archive *says* it's there, but apt-get and synaptic can't see it.
[07:37] <\sh> aehm
[07:38] <\sh> noe binary package
[07:38] <\sh> only source
[07:38] <\sh> try apt-get source kernel-patch-mppe
[07:38] <WebMaven> I did.
[07:39] <WebMaven> root@journeyman:/home/webmaven #  apt-get source -b kernel-patch-mppe
[07:39] <WebMaven> Reading package lists... Done
[07:39] <WebMaven> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:39] <WebMaven> E: Unable to find a source package for kernel-patch-mppe
[07:40] <\sh> hehe
[07:40] <\sh> shermann@shermann-laptop:~/test$ apt-cache search mppe
[07:40] <\sh> pptp-linux - Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP) Client
[07:40] <WebMaven> I *have* that installed.
[07:41] <WebMaven> it needs the mppe package to work with MS VPNs.
[07:41] <\sh> download the source files from the page and build it
[07:42] <WebMaven> but the packages exist: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe
[07:42] <WebMaven> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/source/kernel-patch-mppe
[07:43] <zul> WebMaven: there is ppp-mmpe in the kernel already
[07:43] <herve> hello
[07:43] <\sh> hey herve
[07:43] <WebMaven> zul, so, you're saying the kernel-patch-mppe package is obsolete?
[07:44] <zul> yes..
[07:44] <WebMaven> so, the description in the pptp-linux package is wrong.
[07:44] <zul> chuck@oxdev:~/work/ubuntu/linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10/debian/patches$ ls *mppe*
[07:44] <zul> mppe.dpatch
[07:45] <zul> not sure but it might be
[07:46] <WebMaven> zul, I'm using the k7 kernel, would that be any different?
[07:47] <WebMaven> This is part of the pptp-linux description: "MPPE (Microsoft Point-to-Point Encryption) support requires
[07:47] <WebMaven> an additionnal kernel module, provided by package kernel-patch-mppe."
[07:51] <zul> WebMaven: it isnt any different and the description could be wrong i havent looked at the package
[08:34] <\sh> ok...applied 1.0.19-1 patch to 1.0.20-1 mysql-admin
[08:34] <\sh> and this should fix gcc4 issues
[08:34] <herve> yes, the newest mysql-admin
[08:34] <herve> thanks :-)
[08:35] <\sh> if this is working i have to send it to bugs.debian
[08:35] <\sh> herve: on my wiki page is a list of malone fixes ;)
[08:35] <\sh> there should be a todo tool on ubuntulinux.com ;)
[08:36] <\sh> 1 fix == 1  or 2 US$ ,->
[08:37] <\sh> and mysql-query-browser I disabled only the -Werror for the gtksourceview thingy
[08:39] <\sh> well..done
[08:39] <\sh> working
[09:11] <\sh> herve: catch your mysql-admin on http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/mysql-admin/ ;)
[09:16] <herve> later, I'm cooking for now :-)
[09:16] <\sh> hehe...
[09:17] <\sh> ok, now i have to take some packages for myself...proxy65/pyicq-t/pymsn-t/pyaim-t
[09:17] <herve> I have a nice challenge if you like mysteries... :-
[09:18] <\sh> well...i have to get my transports running for my jabberd2 server
[09:18] <\sh> and there r no packages for it :( well, they're frightend to do python+twisted tapped packages ;)
[09:18] <\sh> but tell me the challenge :)
[09:20] <herve> same versions of dia
[09:20] <herve> the one from debian produces nice PS exports
[09:20] <herve> the one from ubuntu produces messed up PS exports
[09:21] <\sh> using GS?
[09:21] <herve> I don't know how it produces it
[09:21] <herve> but if I install the debian binary packages
[09:21] <herve> they use the same current gs as the ubuntu one
[09:22] <herve> so I guess the difference is in build deps
[09:22] <herve> hmm... something I haven't tried... installing ubuntu ones on debian and testing the export
[09:24] <AstralJava> herve: How is it messed up?
[09:39] <AstralJava> herve: Gotta go, but I did a quick try in Ubuntu and Dia produced a perfect *.eps export. Not sure if that's what you meant though. I'll be back tomorrow.
[09:48] <herve> re
[09:50] <\sh> I'm getting hungry
[09:50] <herve> be patient
[09:50] <herve> it's not baken yet :-)
[09:51] <\sh> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=301844
[09:52] <herve> nice
[09:52] <herve> but is the patch for desktop in the right place,
[09:52] <herve> ?
[09:53] <\sh> yeah
[09:53] <\sh> i made the 02 patch with 01
[09:53] <\sh> so i had to provide it ;)
[09:53] <herve> I mean
[09:53] <herve> the patch is about build failure
[09:54] <herve> so fixing the desktop entry doesn't seem revelant
[09:54] <\sh> the 02-gcc4
[09:54] <\sh> there r two
[09:54] <herve> yes but you don't need 01 for fixing the build failure?
[09:54] <\sh> 02-gcc4.dpatch is the patch from andreas against 1.0.20
[10:22] <herve> he he...
[10:22] <herve> \sh, ?
[10:24] <\sh> jepp...trying to start my new proxy65
[10:25] <herve> I have a clue for my dia mystery
[10:25] <herve> check that diff: http://deb.oursours.net/motu/l10n.diff
[10:28] <\sh> jepp
[10:28] <\sh> its localised ;)
[10:29] <\sh> , instead of . for decimal
[10:29] <herve> nice bug, eh?
[10:29] <\sh> hmmm
[10:30] <\sh> who is wrong?
[10:30] <\sh> debian upstream or ubuntu..who made the locale patch?
[10:31] <herve> anyway, autobuilders are not localized
[10:31] <herve> this means my package could compile
[10:31] <herve> this means my work can enter ubuntu :-)
[10:37] <herve> dia compiled in Debian is not sensible to locales
[10:38] <herve> I wonder if the ubuntu-devel list will be interested
[10:38] <herve> or they will redirect me to malone immediately...
[10:51] <\sh> ok proxy65 package is ready
[11:15] <blueyed> Hi. I've found a problem with fontconfig in breezy. (Or is this channel about the universe repo only?)
[11:17] <herve> I reported the bug in malone
[11:17] <herve> and yes, we are the masters of the universe :-)
[11:18] <blueyed> What is malone, herve?
[11:19] <herve> our bugtracker
[11:19] <herve> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu
[11:20] <blueyed> Fine, thanks. But fontconfig is not in the universe repos, is it?
[11:21] <herve> no it isn't
[11:21] <\sh> herve: btw. http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/9-Hewlett-Packard-and-Ubuntu-Linux.html
[11:22] <herve> but malone is for whole ubuntu and even more
[11:22] <\sh> came today over german heise ticker
[11:22] <herve> like the city of Hamburg has chosen a Debian based solution ;-)
[11:23] <blueyed> so, herve, what is the difeerence between malone and bugzilla then? between stable / development branch?
[11:23] <\sh> herve: i didn't know ;)
[11:24] <herve> blueyed, malone is overall simpler to use for the average people
[11:24] <herve> but quite young at the moment
[11:27] <herve> good night all!
[11:27] <\sh> cu herve
[11:28] <blueyed> bye herve.