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[06:37] hey tseng [06:37] tseng, bring summer clothes with you, its very warm here [06:38] ogra: hopefully warmer than here [06:38] I thought it was supposed to be winter in Oz? [06:38] over 30 degree celisius yesterday [06:38] sladen: autumn [06:38] only about 25 today [06:38] heh [06:39] how are you all? [06:39] alright [06:39] but sunny all the time [06:39] keen to get away from dunedin & get over to sydney :) [06:39] ogra: that may change.. [06:39] ajmitch, nah... [06:39] (i dont want it to change ) [06:40] hehe :) [06:40] dholbach: it's very warm here too, I'm sweatin my arse off [06:40] so im using mutt :( [06:41] schweeb: thats what woke me up, its hot as hell [06:41] 16C here right now [06:41] whats wrong with 16C ? [06:42] its not really hot... [06:42] it's 1am, in April [06:42] in MI [06:42] that's boiling hot [06:42] ok :) [06:42] it should be about 4 or 5C out [06:42] heh [06:44] it's 3C here now :-/ [06:45] where's here? [06:45] well, it's 3C in Ostend, which is 15 km from here (which is Bruges) [06:46] (according to some gnome-panel weather-applet [06:46] :) === aisipos [~aisipos@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:02] Is this a good place to report problems installing eric3 on ubuntu? [08:02] I get no such problems, aisipos [08:02] aisipos, use malone (url is in the topic) [08:05] I'll happily report a bug there, just wanted to ensure there wasn't one already. The search box doesn't seem to work for me there. [08:06] sure, go aheda. [08:06] it's puzzling that you get those errors, though, because I don't. [08:06] gonna test with a dist-upgrade from warty. [08:07] I have universe and multiverse installed, and have installed kubuntu-desktop, somehow something is screwy. [08:07] Looks like a package is duplicated in python-dcop. 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Can you repeat your instructions about python-dcop please? [08:39] crimsun: apologies, my client (chatzilla) was hanging. Can you repeat your instructions about python-dcop please? [08:39] aisipos_: please file a bug in malone about python-dcop [08:39] aisipos_: (I've confirmed the bug you see) [08:40] crimsun: Any advice on which command outputs to include? [08:41] crimsun: Also, for the summary, is "Problems installing eric3" a useful summary? [08:42] aisipos_: it's not related to eric3 [08:42] aisipos_: the problem is that python-dcop erroneously contains a file that's also in python2.4-sip4-qt3 [08:43] aisipos_: in fact, if you remove/purge python-dcop, eric3 installs fine [08:44] crimsun: Ok, I'll use summary ' Duplicate file with python2.4-sip4-qt3' [08:44] crimsun: But what command output should I include in the description? [08:44] the output from dpkg [08:45] namely: (sorry about pending flood) [08:45] Unpacking python-dcop (from .../python-dcop_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb) ... [08:45] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python-dcop_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb (--unpack): [08:45] trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/sip.so', which is also in package python2.4-sip4-qt3 [08:45] dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) [08:47] Hmm, malone doesn't see python-dcop as a valid 'source package name' [08:48] I'm filing from here: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/+package [08:49] kdebindings is the source package's name [08:49] (apt-cache showsrc python-dcop) [08:51] <\sh> crimsun: kdebindings and python is a mess [08:52] Ok, here's the filed bug: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/440/+edit [08:53] Apologies if I've made any mistakes in there. [08:53] Let me try to remove python-dcop and install eric3 [08:53] \sh: absolutely :< [08:56] <\sh> hmmm [08:56] If i try: sudo apt-get remove python-dcop [08:56] I see: The following packages have unmet dependencies: [08:56] python2.4-qtext: Depends: python2.4-qt3 (= 3.13-4ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed [08:56] E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). [08:57] <\sh> aisipos_: this is something else...python-dcop shouldn't be installed right now, with issues during preinst [08:57] <\sh> aisipos_: i checked it right now [08:57] \sh: I believe I install python-dcop manually earlier. [08:58] aisipos_: are you using standard Hoary repos? === maskie [~maskie@196-30-109-120.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:58] \sh: I had marillat enabled for a while (disabled now), as well as universe and multiverse [08:58] <\sh> aisipos_: try dpkg -r python-dcop [08:59] \sh: okay, dkpg -r python-dcop doesn't complain. [09:00] <\sh> crimsun: what about putting python2.4-sip4-qt3 as build and run dep for python-dcop? [09:00] Now eric3 installs! [09:00] \sh: can't do that until we remove the duplicate entry. [09:00] (in python-dcop) [09:00] and I'm not even sure it's a d, much less a b-d [09:01] will check in the morning, too tired now :< [09:01] But sadly, it crashes on run. There is a bug about this already: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/tasks/414/+edit [09:01] <\sh> crimsun: but this is something for upstream ;) [09:02] <\sh> http://ianmurdock.com/archives/000244.html <- interessting === encolpe [~encolpe@81.56.211.189] has joined #ubuntu-motu === d3vic3 [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rubenv [~lambda1@kotnet-148.kulnet.kuleuven.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@c208243.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [~ghe@hiscpdprx01.upsa.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:01] res === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:11] <\sh> working on malone #297 and 296 === encolpe [~encolpe@81.56.211.189] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.134.11] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:05] <\sh> grmpf... [11:05] <\sh> gcc4 issues without an end in this mysql stuff === womble [~mpalmer@150.203.247.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:42] <\sh> das ogra :) [11:42] hey \sh [11:42] Das Ogra? [11:42] hi all [11:42] <\sh> ogra: wanna have a surprice? [11:42] greetings fromdown under [11:42] \sh, ? [11:42] ogra: how was the non-smoking :) [11:42] <\sh> ogra: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.blogweb.de [11:43] <\sh> surprise ;) [11:43] Treenaks, hard, but i didnt kill the stwardess ;) [11:43] ogra: ;) [11:44] \sh, applause ! [11:44] \sh, youre ahaead of me ;) i still run woody [11:44] ogra: ouch [11:45] <\sh> ogra: i did it...and i found out some pitfalls in server configuration, finally base-config new installs you a complete workstation after debootstraping [11:45] \sh, you have to use server as a bootoption on the cd to install a server [11:45] http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=HEUROPE-NET,217.115.138.0,217.115.143.255 [11:45] <\sh> ogra: i did it remote :) [11:46] i'm only third [11:46] :( [11:46] ogra: I'm 10th: http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=TRANSIP-COLO-868,80.69.68.0,80.69.68.255 [11:47] <\sh> ogra: how can I say to deboostrap or base-config that i want to have a server? [11:47] Treenaks, heh, what an uptime :) [11:47] \sh, no idea... [11:48] ogra: current uptime is 47 days.. it's just that netcraft doesn't know that [11:49] Treenaks, it obviously knows about a reboot of my server i wasnt informed about by my provider.... i think i'll block the bill for this month [11:49] <\sh> ogra: finally it's running..even jabberd2 [11:50] <\sh> ogra: and my cyrus-imapd 2.2.x problem I solved with an experimental cyrus-imapd source package of debian [11:50] hmm [11:50] <\sh> ogra: well, i had to choose, 4gb mail spool in the bin, or rescue ;) [11:54] <\sh> time for lunch [11:54] <\sh> laters [11:54] ok, i'll go off again, internet is very slow and flaky here, if susus comes around, tell her i'll be here again in an hour or so....laters all === spacey [~spacey@145.33.144.137] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Verlassend"] === ogra [~ogra@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@87-mia-9.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:16] hello [01:16] if motu still frozen? [01:16] <\sh> ha..i found a solution for mysql-query-browser...all warnings are errors...so lets disable i [01:16] <\sh> t [01:16] hi zyga [01:17] ajmitch: hi, I'm trying to get freeciv 2.0 into motu :> [01:17] aha [01:17] shouldn't be hard [01:17] since freeciv is in debian [01:18] and the maintainer is often around the ubuntu channels [01:18] yeah, just sync it if breezy is ready for such stuff [01:18] depends if freeciv 2.0 has been packaged yet [01:19] ajmitch: not yet as it seems [01:19] I'd really love to package something [01:19] but I'd better try with something smaller [01:19] please, package something that isn't already maintained actively in debian :) [01:19] we hate to fork packaging [01:19] ajmitch: don't worry :) [01:20] Version: 2.0.0-1 [01:20] aha, it's in sid [01:20] great [01:21] ajmitch: great, so what needs to be done to sync it? [01:21] wait for the next auto-sync run [01:21] ajmitch: excellent :-) [01:21] it was only uploaded in the last day or so [01:21] Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 02:03:06 +0200 [01:22] hmm [01:22] zyga, breezy currently isnt in a state to just sync packages right away, wait till after the conference [01:22] that went to experimental... [01:22] ajmitch, no prob..... we can syc from there [01:22] jordi was my AM for the debian NM process :) [01:23] wow, thats a good AM [01:24] :) [01:24] jordi is a good guy [01:25] he is? :P [01:26] sure [01:27] hehe [01:28] ogra: whatever you say :P [01:28] :P [01:29] <\sh> anybody who was the time to upload some stuff of herve and me? [01:30] <\sh> oh it looks like herve uploaded already [01:36] <\sh> ok..next build run of mysql-query-browser...*grmp* === koke [~koke@155.210.13.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fwiffo [~fwiffo@dhcpserver0.oersted.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:53] ogra: are you getting out sightseeing this week? [01:53] ogra: next week looks booked solid [01:55] tseng, thats why we flew earlier, yes [01:55] nice [01:56] i had a harbor sightseeng today.... [01:56] and went to chinatow for dinner [01:56] +n [01:57] fun :) [01:57] yep. [01:57] yeah [01:57] sydney is soooo beautiful [01:57] seems that I'll be meeting up with my boss (or at least I used to do work for him) on sunday [01:58] here ? [01:58] yeah [01:58] he's at LCA [01:58] great... [01:58] part of the core organising team for lca2006 [01:58] wow [01:59] I'll probably end up getting recruited to do at least something for it [01:59] heh [01:59] so I expect to see you in dunedin in january ;) [02:00] are we booked on the 30th? [02:00] hmm....lets see if i can pay the flight [02:00] yes [02:00] hm right [02:00] 6 days of BOFs [02:00] ajmitch: I'll be there [02:00] ajmitch: in Dunedin [02:00] great! [02:01] ajmitch: with the money I make nowadays ;) [02:01] ogra: heh, show me all the cool stuff on the 24th [02:01] gah, they're trying to do even more concurrent BOFs [02:01] tseng, i'll do ;) [02:01] tseng: when do you arrive in .au? [02:01] the 24th [02:01] ajmitch: though I'll probably stay longer (or come early) [02:01] ajmitch: (when is it again?) [02:01] at.. === ajmitch arrives on the 23rd, but will probably not get to the hotel until at least the afternoon of the 24th [02:02] Treenaks: jan 23-rd-29th [02:02] 28th, sorry [02:02] ajmitch: hm.. I might come to NZ for new year then :) [02:02] i arrive in sydney at 6:25am [02:02] heh :) [02:02] ouch [02:02] argh [02:02] with a heavy jetlag i guess [02:02] yeah [02:03] but hey [02:03] tseng, how long is your flight ? [02:03] that leaves the rest of the day to go out [02:03] ogra: a gazillion hours [02:03] heh [02:03] 12+ from LA i think [02:03] not far [02:03] we flew 22....was really odd [02:03] tseng: I'd say 18+ [02:03] hm [02:04] at a rough guess [02:04] well ill basically be on planes all day [02:04] on the 22nd [02:04] how many stops ` [02:04] ? [02:04] Flying Time: 3:15 [02:04] la and sydney [02:04] 2:55 on the way back for me [02:04] oh, direct flight [02:04] thats cool [02:04] well, flying to la [02:04] then to sydne [02:04] almost. [02:05] hardly long enough for me to read a book ;) [02:05] i need to shower and go to work dudes [02:05] ok tseng [02:05] getting later :( [02:05] bye [02:05] ogra: partying into the night in sydney? ;) [02:06] me, now ? noo [02:06] ciao tseng [02:06] well it's only 10 there [02:06] ajmitch, still fighting my jetlag.... trying to stay awake as long as i can to not wake up at 5:00 again === matth [matth@uruk-hai.bioinformatics.unsw.EDU.AU] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [~mpalmer@150.203.247.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] ah.. [02:09] it's easier for me [02:09] I get 2 hours extra to sleep in each morning ;) [02:10] heh [02:10] I found it hard coming back to NZ in january [02:10] since I had to get up at 6am here - my body thought it was 4am .au time [02:10] from .au ? [02:11] ah [02:11] yeah, I spent 6 weeks in melbourne === ajmitch might live in .au next year === dholbach [~daniel@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:12] ajmitch, wow, cooool [02:12] ha... back again [02:12] apparantly there's already half a million NZers living in .au anyway [02:12] hey dholbach ! [02:13] hey ajmitch, ogra! [02:13] dholbach, wow, you didnt look like you would wake up again... [02:13] hehe === ogra is impressed [02:13] jetlag hitting hard? [02:13] ogra: feel much better now :-) === ajmitch wonders how he'll get from the airport to his friend's place [02:13] now doing some keysigning [02:13] ajmitch, we are running around all day since yesterday [02:14] so its double hard.... [02:14] doing the tourist thing while you've got time [02:14] ...trying to stay awake while exhausting your body === ajmitch has a depressingly empty bank account already [02:15] ajmitch: bug your parents, it's what i did [02:15] haha [02:16] my parents only just got back .au today :) [02:16] back from [02:16] they just spent 2 weeks there [02:16] it's sometimes cheaper to fly to .au than it is to fly to the other end of NZ [02:17] oh cool, tell them where we are and we'll have a beer with them :-) [02:17] already met riddell yesterday [02:17] they got back to NZ today [02:17] although they would have been in sydney earlier in the morning, I think [02:17] ah ok [02:17] who what me? [02:17] dd [02:18] didnt read properly [02:18] Riddell, !!! [02:18] hey Riddell [02:18] woohoo, riddell's here [02:18] just smoked with a nice scottish girl at the door :) [02:18] he ROCKS [02:18] ogra: how'd you handle the non-smoking flight? :) [02:18] especially his wlan card :P [02:19] what about his wlan card? [02:19] ajmitch, it wasnt too hard :) i survived in the end, and the smoking place in singapore is worth a visit ;) [02:19] ogra: there are no scottish girls in that youth hostel [02:19] Treenaks, it works with the router here.... my old orinoco didnt [02:19] ogra: was it the sexy ginger one? [02:20] we had fun at the backpackers in melbourne [02:20] ogra: should I bring my spare wifi card? [02:20] Riddell, dunno, she looks good.... === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:20] ajmitch, i think i'll be fine with a sane router in the hotel next week... [02:21] I'll put it in anyway [02:21] an old prism2 card :) [02:21] ogra: what made you think she was Scottish? [02:21] Riddell, she is blonde and wasnt srund yesterday [02:22] she told me === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.109.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] oh, a new girl, hmm hmm [02:22] ogra: where was she from? [02:22] ah, time for me to sleep [02:22] srund? === ajmitch has to get up really early in the morning :) [02:22] bye all [02:23] dumfries and galloway [02:23] Riddell, ^^ [02:23] hmm, nice [02:29] my arms are all grazed from the surf board, makes it hard to rest them on the desk for typing [02:33] heh, you were with doko and mvo ? [02:33] i'll join you tomorrow [02:34] dholbach, srund ?? === dholbac1 [~daniel@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:35] dholbac1, srund ?? [02:35] what should that mean ? [02:35] ogra: you said it, before my box crashed [02:35] ahh [02:35] ok... [02:35] missed the a again :) [02:36] should have been around [02:36] ah ok === ogra goes to smoke again.... [02:36] ogra: making up for lost time during your flight? :P [02:38] <\sh> ah dholbach :) [02:38] :-) [02:38] <\sh> mysql-query-browser patch 01_ ;) === Danten [~danten@h101n10c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] <\sh> for what is it? [02:39] <\sh> fixing your forgotten issues ;) [02:39] what the problem? is this the name i gave it? [02:39] must 've been late then... :-/ [02:39] <\sh> 01_changed_requirements.dpatch [02:40] dunno what i was trying to fix, i think there was something with libgtkhtml [02:40] <\sh> u patched everything from automake even the cache ;) [02:40] got rid of an old version [02:40] <--- does his job properly ;-) [02:40] good to have somebody review MY packages :-) [02:40] <\sh> dholbach: u forgot a category setting in upstreams .desktop file ;) [02:41] i concentrated on the more important issues [02:41] i only touched a .desktop file once [02:41] for my own package :-) [02:41] <\sh> dholbach: I'm trying to fix also the gcc4 issues [02:41] ah cool [02:42] it's broken because of c++ stuff i suppose [02:42] dholbach, hey [02:42] we have to fix the libraries first# [02:42] which i cannot do from here :-) [02:42] dholbach, you just missed te big farting competition at the reception [02:43] (girls against boys) [02:43] <\sh> dholbach: no [02:43] oh nice... what place did you make? *roll eyes a bit* [02:43] hehe [02:44] i didnt attend... only watched from outside while smoking [02:44] (they didnt burn the though) [02:44] s/the/them === ogra goes to pick up another beer upstairs... [02:48] <\sh> hmmm. [02:48] <\sh> how can I say dpatch-edit-patch to have more then one basepatch [02:48] <\sh> so...i created patch 02 with 01 as base...now i have to create 03 with base 02 and 01 [02:50] <\sh> ok..have it [02:52] surfing photos up http://jriddell.org/photos/ [02:53] previous page too [02:54] cool [02:55] wow, loading a pic takes a about a minute [02:56] uploading took a lot longer [02:56] heh [02:56] i thought you had a better connection there [02:57] <\sh> lol [02:57] <\sh> http://jriddell.org/photos/2005-04-18-sydney-geeks-find-internet-oliver-pitti-seb.jpg [02:57] <\sh> nice shit [02:57] <\sh> aeh shot [02:57] <\sh> sry ;) [02:58] heh [02:58] Geeks Down Under [02:58] seb looks great in the backgroud === Seveas [~seveas@dyn127.roaming.few.vu.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:59] <\sh> i think next year we have to have a nice meeting directly on top of table mountain ;) [02:59] <\sh> and re-checking IPv4 Pigeon Protocol [02:59] depends... [03:00] <\sh> u know, to double check alans proof of concept ;) === bradb [~bradb@MTL-ppp-144647.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] <\sh> after that we have a nice dinner in a small restaurant in one of the suburbs of cape town :) 500 gramm beef filet steaks [03:01] <\sh> or crayfish [03:01] \sh, not sure if the next conf will be in .sa [03:01] err za [03:01] <\sh> ogra: well...no official meeting :) just holiday ;) [03:01] ah, ok === dholbach [~daniel@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] <\sh> ok well...need to change tapes for nagra === tritium [~mrimbert@ee213-dhcp-5.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] Good morning [03:14] hey tritium [03:14] Hey ogra [03:14] ogra: http://keyweed.com/gallery/2001/Australia-3/?imm027.jpg [03:15] Treenaks, wow, i couldnt imagine that.... it so sunny here all the time [03:16] ogra: that's january [03:16] (2001) === bradb [~bradb@MTL-ppp-144647.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] oh [03:16] uh no [03:16] December 2001 === dholbac1 [~daniel@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] dholbac1, grab some cold beer behind you to cool down the usb stick ;) [03:17] cool down the usb stick??? === Treenaks WTFs [03:18] Treenaks, it overheats and kills the box [03:18] ocol [03:18] cool, too [03:18] nah, rather odd... [03:18] is it a European stick? [03:19] dunno [03:19] maybe it's not make for Aussie temperatures [03:19] heh [03:19] i'll go to bed now [03:19] its about 20C here currently...(probably warmer upstairs) [03:19] i'm annoyed [03:19] :-) [03:20] bah, have a beer and a cigarette downstairs before ;) [03:20] sleep tight everyone [03:20] good night dholbac1 [03:20] night dholbac1 === herzi [~herzi@c208243.adsl.hansenet.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] <\sh> ok...looks like that I have resolved the issues with gcc4 === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] \o. [04:19] \o/ [04:19] sorry [04:19] that first one looks so wrong..) === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@c208243.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth wonders why tomboy depends on a -dev package [05:00] oh, libdbus-cil does === astro76 [~james@astro76.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] <\sh> hmmm...anyone up for loading? [05:10] <\sh> or reviewing and loading? === matth echos sh [05:12] <\sh> i have a bunch of things to upload (are reviewed by master-reviewer herve) ;) and one package for reviewing and uploading ;) [05:13] <\sh> u will find diff.gz + .dsc for malone #411,#346,#297 on http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/ (no archive) [05:14] <\sh> *smoking* === tritium [~mrimbert@ee213-dhcp-5.ecn.purdue.edu] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === herzi [~herzi@c208243.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ozamosi [~ozamosi@80.252.185.155] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:38] <\sh> hp wants to give a special ubuntu linux distro to their laptops..they don't want to force their customers to buy a windows xp version ;) [05:38] <\sh> article in german on heise: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/58740 [05:44] guys i am going to upload a couple of packages to universe [05:44] anybody wants to review them, before i do so? [05:44] they are NEW [05:45] I keep meaning to figure out the rules for that. [05:45] jbailey: that's simple... [05:45] I need to upload klibc. It needs to wind up in main eventually, but I figured it should upload to universe first. [05:45] everything that is not specifically forced into main, will land in universe :) [05:45] No, I mean in terms of interacting with the MOTU team. === zul [~chuck@198.62.158.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] yo [05:46] well... i don't think there is a specific way [05:46] <\sh> ok...will go home now...laters === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [~bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] Howdy [06:06] habemus papum :) [06:08] Hambuger with fries? [06:08] ;-) [06:11] turn on CNN... or just about any channel rt now... [06:12] I have no interest in Pope related garbage but thank you. === Bazzi [~Bastian@p5484F6BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === WebMaven [~webmaven@ip68-104-53-190.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:23] Hi folks. === Bazzi [~Bastian@p5484F6BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:24] what does it mean if a package has a page like this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe [06:24] but isn't listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/ ? === WebMaven [~webmaven@ip68-104-53-190.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:44] Sorry about that. === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.109.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:45] If I missed a reply someone made to my question, could you repeat it? [06:46] I'm trying to install kernel-patch-mppe, but Synaptic can't find it (I have universe repos enabled). [06:46] So I went looking, and found that the package has a page here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe [06:47] but that it isn't listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/ [06:47] and I was wondering if this was significant. [06:48] Anyone? [06:49] Hello? [07:03] Is anyone here? [07:13] I'm here but I'm clueless, sorry :-) [07:15] <\sh> me too (c) aol.com [07:15] OK. === AstralJava [ab85abcf21@83.102.38.223] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:36] This is annoying. I can't figure out why the package isn't available to be installed. [07:36] the archive *says* it's there, but apt-get and synaptic can't see it. [07:37] <\sh> aehm [07:38] <\sh> noe binary package [07:38] <\sh> only source [07:38] <\sh> try apt-get source kernel-patch-mppe [07:38] I did. [07:39] root@journeyman:/home/webmaven # apt-get source -b kernel-patch-mppe [07:39] Reading package lists... Done [07:39] Building dependency tree... Done [07:39] E: Unable to find a source package for kernel-patch-mppe [07:40] <\sh> hehe [07:40] <\sh> shermann@shermann-laptop:~/test$ apt-cache search mppe [07:40] <\sh> pptp-linux - Point-to-Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP) Client [07:40] I *have* that installed. [07:41] it needs the mppe package to work with MS VPNs. [07:41] <\sh> download the source files from the page and build it [07:42] but the packages exist: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe [07:42] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/source/kernel-patch-mppe [07:43] WebMaven: there is ppp-mmpe in the kernel already === herve [~hcauwelie@ip-3.net-81-220-179.nice.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] hello [07:43] <\sh> hey herve [07:43] zul, so, you're saying the kernel-patch-mppe package is obsolete? [07:44] yes.. [07:44] so, the description in the pptp-linux package is wrong. [07:44] chuck@oxdev:~/work/ubuntu/linux-source-2.6.10-2.6.10/debian/patches$ ls *mppe* [07:44] mppe.dpatch [07:45] not sure but it might be [07:46] zul, I'm using the k7 kernel, would that be any different? [07:47] This is part of the pptp-linux description: "MPPE (Microsoft Point-to-Point Encryption) support requires [07:47] an additionnal kernel module, provided by package kernel-patch-mppe." [07:51] WebMaven: it isnt any different and the description could be wrong i havent looked at the package === rubenv [~lambda1@kotnet-148.kulnet.kuleuven.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BlackHussar [~chatzilla@216.52.210.36] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maskie [~maskie@196-30-108-224.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:34] <\sh> ok...applied 1.0.19-1 patch to 1.0.20-1 mysql-admin [08:34] <\sh> and this should fix gcc4 issues [08:34] yes, the newest mysql-admin [08:34] thanks :-) [08:35] <\sh> if this is working i have to send it to bugs.debian [08:35] <\sh> herve: on my wiki page is a list of malone fixes ;) [08:35] <\sh> there should be a todo tool on ubuntulinux.com ;) [08:36] <\sh> 1 fix == 1 or 2 US$ ,-> [08:37] <\sh> and mysql-query-browser I disabled only the -Werror for the gtksourceview thingy [08:39] <\sh> well..done [08:39] <\sh> working === Danten [~danten@h66n10c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@c208243.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _matth [matth@uruk-hai.bioinformatics.unsw.EDU.AU] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:11] <\sh> herve: catch your mysql-admin on http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/mysql-admin/ ;) [09:16] later, I'm cooking for now :-) [09:16] <\sh> hehe... [09:17] <\sh> ok, now i have to take some packages for myself...proxy65/pyicq-t/pymsn-t/pyaim-t [09:17] I have a nice challenge if you like mysteries... :- [09:18] <\sh> well...i have to get my transports running for my jabberd2 server [09:18] <\sh> and there r no packages for it :( well, they're frightend to do python+twisted tapped packages ;) [09:18] <\sh> but tell me the challenge :) [09:20] same versions of dia [09:20] the one from debian produces nice PS exports [09:20] the one from ubuntu produces messed up PS exports [09:21] <\sh> using GS? [09:21] I don't know how it produces it [09:21] but if I install the debian binary packages [09:21] they use the same current gs as the ubuntu one [09:22] so I guess the difference is in build deps [09:22] hmm... something I haven't tried... installing ubuntu ones on debian and testing the export [09:24] herve: How is it messed up? === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.109.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:39] herve: Gotta go, but I did a quick try in Ubuntu and Dia produced a perfect *.eps export. Not sure if that's what you meant though. I'll be back tomorrow. === AstralJava [ab85abcf21@83.102.38.223] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === farruinn [~nathan@cpe-69-201-0-56.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] re === herve trying to invent a new cook recipe :-) [09:50] <\sh> I'm getting hungry [09:50] be patient [09:50] it's not baken yet :-) [09:51] <\sh> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=301844 [09:52] nice [09:52] but is the patch for desktop in the right place, [09:52] ? [09:53] <\sh> yeah [09:53] <\sh> i made the 02 patch with 01 [09:53] <\sh> so i had to provide it ;) [09:53] I mean [09:53] the patch is about build failure [09:54] so fixing the desktop entry doesn't seem revelant [09:54] <\sh> the 02-gcc4 [09:54] <\sh> there r two [09:54] yes but you don't need 01 for fixing the build failure? [09:54] <\sh> 02-gcc4.dpatch is the patch from andreas against 1.0.20 [10:22] he he... [10:22] \sh, ? [10:24] <\sh> jepp...trying to start my new proxy65 [10:25] I have a clue for my dia mystery [10:25] check that diff: http://deb.oursours.net/motu/l10n.diff === motaboy [~motaboy@host74-39.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:28] <\sh> jepp [10:28] <\sh> its localised ;) [10:29] <\sh> , instead of . for decimal [10:29] nice bug, eh? [10:29] <\sh> hmmm [10:30] <\sh> who is wrong? [10:30] <\sh> debian upstream or ubuntu..who made the locale patch? [10:31] anyway, autobuilders are not localized [10:31] this means my package could compile [10:31] this means my work can enter ubuntu :-) [10:37] dia compiled in Debian is not sensible to locales [10:38] I wonder if the ubuntu-devel list will be interested [10:38] or they will redirect me to malone immediately... [10:51] <\sh> ok proxy65 package is ready === motaboy_ [~motaboy@host123-39.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC1631.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:15] Hi. I've found a problem with fontconfig in breezy. (Or is this channel about the universe repo only?) [11:17] I reported the bug in malone [11:17] and yes, we are the masters of the universe :-) [11:18] What is malone, herve? [11:19] our bugtracker [11:19] https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu [11:20] Fine, thanks. But fontconfig is not in the universe repos, is it? [11:21] no it isn't [11:21] <\sh> herve: btw. http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/9-Hewlett-Packard-and-Ubuntu-Linux.html [11:22] but malone is for whole ubuntu and even more [11:22] <\sh> came today over german heise ticker [11:22] like the city of Hamburg has chosen a Debian based solution ;-) [11:23] so, herve, what is the difeerence between malone and bugzilla then? between stable / development branch? [11:23] <\sh> herve: i didn't know ;) [11:24] blueyed, malone is overall simpler to use for the average people [11:24] but quite young at the moment [11:27] good night all! [11:27] <\sh> cu herve [11:28] bye herve. === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu