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zulhey02:13
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zdslhello03:01
fabbionemorning06:08
jbaileyHeya Fabio!07:01
jbaileyP'haps you can offer some advice. =)07:01
jbaileyGiven that Elmo's away, do you think it's acceptiable to merge the Ubuntu changes into Debian's cdbs, and then just upload it to both Hoary and Sid?07:02
jbaileyerr.07:02
jbaileyBreezy07:02
dilingerwhile the cat's away.. ?07:08
fabbionejbailey: he is not away07:12
fabbionehey dilinger 07:12
dilingergood morning07:12
fabbionejbailey: what is the situation exactly?07:12
fabbionecdbs in debian needs to be imported AS-IS in ubuntu?07:12
fabbioneor there are still some differences?07:12
jbaileyThere's only one difference in Ubuntu and it's suitable for Debian.07:12
fabbioneif the first case ask elmo (that is still online) to do a pure sync and to override the ubuntu changes07:13
jbaileySince it's build infrastructure, I'd really prefer to have the two perfectly in sync.07:13
fabbionejbailey: than the correct sequence is to upload to Debian, and ask elmo for a sync07:13
fabbionesync with override07:13
fabbioneso that the 2 packages will be exactly the same07:13
fabbioneand with no version difference, they will be automatically synced each time you upload to debian07:14
jbaileyAh, okay.07:14
jbaileyI'll do that then.07:14
fabbionegood boy :)07:16
=== jbailey barks like a dog.
fabbionejbailey: sit!07:17
fabbionejbailey: fix!07:17
fabbionejbailey: faster!07:17
kylemshit on the floor.07:17
fabbione:P07:17
jbaileyThis is getting into fetishes that I don't share...07:17
dilingersharing is caring.  why keep those fetishes all to yourself?07:18
jbaileySharing is caring?07:18
jbaileySounds like something from brave new world. =)07:18
dilingerrandom things get stuck in my head07:19
dilingeri have no idea where that came from07:19
jbaileyGoogle reports 44,600 hits for "Sharing is caring"07:20
=== dilinger chuckles
dilingerhttp://curl.haxx.se/mail/lib-2002-01/0107.html07:21
kylemheh07:22
fabbionenever seen such a retarded Make system as in RH cluster07:29
fabbionejeeeeeeee07:29
fabbioneit's so frigging borked07:29
lamontfabbione: so, is the logfile from a successful kernel build sufficient, or do you need files from the (purged on success) build tree?07:51
lamontfor hppa, that is07:51
fabbionelamont: the log file is perfect07:51
fabbionei don't need more07:52
lamontok..  will put it somewhere you can get it momentarily07:52
lamontgrumble... 3 more kernel-team@ patches. (74-76) to merge07:52
fabbionelamont: they are cosmetic the last ones07:53
lamontgcc-3.3, initrd-tools-of-death07:53
fabbioneiirc it's the gcc-3.3 stuff and ppc no unionfs07:53
=== lamont merges in -pa3 from hppa
lamontfabbione: people.u.c/~lamont/hppa/linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.11.90-1_20050419-090208:00
lamontwell, in anout 10 seconds08:00
fabbionelamont: thanks08:00
lamontcopy done08:00
fabbionesure08:00
fabbioneno rush08:00
fabbioneapplying patch arch-hppa_pa1 to ./ ... ok.08:02
fabbioneapplying patch arch-hppa_pa2 to ./ ... ok.08:02
fabbioneapplying patch arch-hppa_pa3 to ./ ... ok.08:02
fabbionedid you split the patch in pieces?08:02
=== dilinger smirks
dilingerinitrd-tools-of-death has a nice ring to it08:02
fabbionedilinger: ah thanks for remind me :)08:03
fabbionelamont: that was the 3rd commit to Depends on a vesioned initrd tools08:04
lamontfabbione: well, actually...08:07
lamontthe patch arrived in pieces, and I figured I'd let it grow for a bit..08:07
lamontthat is, I've been pulling the delta patches (vs previous -pa build), instead of the full patch08:08
fabbionelamont: make sense :)08:08
fabbioneWARNING: /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.12-2.6.11.90/debian/build/install-hppa64-smp/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.12-1-hppa64-smp/kernel/cluster/cm08:08
fabbionean/cman.ko needs unknown symbol cnxman_ioctl32_init08:08
fabbioneWARNING: /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.12-2.6.11.90/debian/build/install-hppa64-smp/debian/tmp-image/lib/modules/2.6.12-1-hppa64-smp/kernel/cluster/cm08:08
fabbionean/cman.ko needs unknown symbol cnxman_ioctl32_exit08:08
fabbionethis is no good08:08
lamontat some point, it'll probably make sense to delete pa 1-N, and just have N+108:08
fabbioneyeah08:09
lamontfabbione: I'll agree that's no good...08:09
fabbionethere is so much to clean up around :/08:09
=== lamont determines that his ability to think is fatigue-impaired, calls it a night.
fabbionelamont: good night :)08:11
=== T-None hopes lamont will answer his mail sometimes, heads to work, bye
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fabbionehttp://www.francesco.biz/papa.jpg10:34
fabbioneLOL10:34
fabbione(work safe)10:34
fabbionefile libgulm.a 10:37
fabbionelibgulm.a: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped10:37
fabbioneBAH10:37
fabbioneisn't that supposed to be an ar archive+10:37
fabbione?10:37
svenlcan someone remember me how we can put to suspend-to-disk a ubuntu install ? I don't remember the magic call to it.11:05
mjg59Call /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh11:18
mjg59Or choose it from the Gnome logout menu11:18
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jbaileyfabbione: For a sync from Debian, do I have to wait for it to actually be in the archive (post-pulse), or is it fine at any point after ACCEPT?01:56
fabbionejbailey: afaik it needs to be in the archive01:57
fabbionebut that's elmo's business :)01:57
jbaileyRight, but I don't want to ask him too soon. =)01:57
fabbionejbailey: just write it on irc. he reads backlog02:00
fabbioneand he is asleep.. by the time he will read, the package will be in the archive02:00
jbaileyThat works.02:01
jbailey(Asleep?  It's only 8pm in .au)02:01
fabbionewell.. around.. whatever :)02:01
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zulhey02:32
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fabbionere03:07
fabbionethey didn't let me sleep today03:07
zulwho didnt? garden gnomes?03:07
fabbionepeople that come aorund knocking on the doors to talk about the Church or deliver shoes or wtf...03:08
zulhehe03:09
zulyou know you dont have to answer the door03:09
fabbionethat would be easy if i didn't wake up by the noise03:10
fabbionejbailey: i updated the sparcbuildd inbox03:10
zulare you in an apartment or something?03:10
fabbioneyou might notice 2 new folders03:10
fabbioneneedsreallove and builddep03:10
fabbionethe former has the logs of packages that FTBFS for "strange" reasons03:11
fabbionethat could be gcc-4 or crappy code03:11
fabbionethe latter is wel... you can guess it03:11
fabbionezul: no i live in a small villa03:11
zulah03:11
fabbionebut the problem is that they still make too much noise03:11
lamontfabbione: the problem is that you're a light sleeper. :-)03:30
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lamontfabbione: unless you beat me to it?03:32
fabbionelamont: for tjhe FTBFS?03:49
lamontyeah03:50
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fabbionelamont: i have more FTBFS than you do on sparc03:50
fabbionejbailey: gcc-4 ICE!03:50
fabbionejbailey: gnustep-base in needsreallove/03:51
fabbionelamont: like util-linux and others.. they simply don't build on sparc03:51
lamontah, I see.03:52
fabbioneit seems like gcc-4 for sparc is more aggressive than on other arches03:52
lamontfabbione: and yet more buildable than for hppa. :-(03:52
fabbionelamont: you still have access to the sparcbuildd inbox, don't you?03:52
fabbione umount.c:43: error: static declaration of 'umount2' follows non-static declaration03:53
fabbionei get quite a lot of these errors03:53
fabbionebut apparently i386 & Co. don't catch03:53
fabbioneinetd.c:705: error: invalid lvalue in assignment03:54
lamontthe baz ftbfs - did you fix that, or what? (remember seeing some discussion, but don't see a new source package...)03:54
fabbionethese ones are a royal pain to fix.. it's easy but borig to death03:54
fabbionelamont: no.. i pushed the problem to both bob2 and lifeless03:54
fabbionemaintainer and upstream..03:54
fabbionethey have to figure it03:54
fabbionestill simple.. it's a missing cast in one function :)03:55
lamontright... I'll file the bug then.03:55
fabbionebut i am not dealing to NMU 1/2 of breezy03:55
fabbioneit's just insane03:55
jbaileyfabbione: gcc-4 ice on sparc?03:55
fabbionePlease submit a full bug report,03:56
fabbionewith preprocessed source if appropriate.03:56
fabbioneSee <URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html> for instructions.03:56
fabbioneFor Debian GNU/Linux specific bug reporting instructions,03:56
fabbionesee <URL:file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.0/README.Bugs>03:56
fabbioneit's not nice to get stuff like that :)03:56
fabbionejbailey: just check the logfile i pointed to you03:56
fabbionemframe.m:1711: internal compiler error: in assign_stack_temp_for_type, at function.c:60503:56
jbaileyfabbione: Gimme a sec, brain is on doing merging.03:57
fabbionejbailey: take your time03:57
jbailey(and by a sec, I mean an hour or so)03:57
fabbioneyou know where the stuff is :)03:57
fabbioneit's like: it's there.. look at it when and if you want :)03:57
fabbione+ you don't need me alive to access the sparc03:58
zulfabbione: i started on the external drivers last night i dont have anything for you though04:00
fabbioneFailed to connect to archive zulcss@gmail.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre1--2.6.11.9004:00
fabbionezul: i noticed you put one in PENDINGUPLOAD04:01
zulyeah my internet access is down atm04:01
fabbionebefore doing external drivers import, we should at least check if we can redistribute them04:01
zuli think i was too eager04:01
fabbioneand if upstream is alive04:01
zulfabbione: i already checked the spca5xx its gpl and its alive04:01
fabbioneok04:01
zulactually they updated their drivers between the time i first started the list and now04:02
fabbioneok04:02
fabbionei think i am done for today04:02
fabbionetoo tired to keep going04:02
fabbionebut i have almost done with the RH cluster suite04:02
zulheh...damn people at the door04:03
fabbionenah i have been working too many hours in the last days04:03
fabbionei need to take it easy for the next 2/3 days before UDU burn out04:03
zul2.6.12 should be named after porn stars04:06
fabbionenah04:07
fabbionepeople will complain04:07
fabbioneand it's not very ethic :)04:07
zulbut it would be soo cool04:07
fabbioneyeah i agree04:08
fabbionebut i forsee too many problems with that04:08
zuloh i know04:08
fabbioneso better we find something funny but less sex-explicit04:08
fabbionewe could use dildo's nick name04:08
fabbione:)04:09
zulisnt that more sex-explicit?04:09
fabbioneof course :)04:09
fabbionei have no idea really04:09
zulbrands of condoms ;)04:09
fabbionei think we should define 2 set of names04:09
fabbionefor "yeah install and crack my system" releases04:10
fabbioneand "suppose to be stable"04:10
fabbioneso people can determine themself if they want to upgrade04:10
zulyeah but they are going to upgrade anyways without reading the changelogs ;)04:10
fabbionezul: nope.. we are going to accounce the names to -devel and -user :)04:11
zulthats new :)04:11
fabbioneno.. just that we will use 2 set of names04:11
fabbionethey will still have to decode them .)04:11
fabbioneecho "The Seek & Destroy release" | md5sum >> changelog04:12
fabbionenow decode that!04:12
zullol04:12
zulevil04:13
fabbioneactually04:13
fabbionewe could use whatever we want04:13
fabbioneand encode it with md5sum04:13
zulput the changelog in latin04:13
fabbionezul: havemus fumat marujana04:14
zulsee...i have no idea what you said04:14
fabbionewe smoked crack04:14
zulah..04:14
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fabbione2000 even04:15
zuli got a medal last week as well...for being on a winning team in a playoff04:17
fabbionewe need to allign the toolchain04:17
fabbionezul: ehehe04:17
fabbionei need some sugar.. brb04:18
fabbionechecking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp04:30
fabbioneconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check04:30
fabbioneYAY04:30
jbaileyWhat type of sanity check does it do?04:49
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lamontjbailey: runs it with obsolete args, I'd wager... :-)05:06
fabbionejbailey: dunno :)05:08
fabbioneJEE05:10
fabbionei need to rewrite the Makefiles for the RH05:10
fabbioneit's more pain to deal with them than to rewrite them clean05:10
fabbionedpkg-deb: building package `rhcluster' in `../rhcluster_0.20050419-0ubuntu1_i386.deb'.05:13
fabbionedpkg-deb: building package `rhcluster-dev' in `../rhcluster-dev_0.20050419-0ubuntu1_i386.deb'.05:13
fabbionenow it starts to look more interesting :)05:13
lamontjbailey: glibc build chunking along on ia6405:18
lamontof course, with a 90-120 minute build time.,...05:19
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jbaileylamont-away: Is your ia64 UP or SMP?05:19
lamont-awayjbailey: data center machines are lowest-price-point (UP), I personally have at least one SMP box05:20
fabbionejbailey: they are all SMP afaik05:20
kylemfabbione, no...05:20
fabbionelamont-away: uh? really? you mean the porting box is better than the buildds?05:20
fabbionekylem: i was talking about the ia64 at the datacenter :)05:21
lamont-awaybuild boxen for ia64 report one processor in an SMP kernel05:21
kylemfabbione, ah.05:21
fabbionelamont-away: ah.. how so?05:21
fabbionewell you will tell me later :)05:21
lamont-awaylikewise, I have an SMP i2000 (itanium 1), and a uniprocessor Mckinley (zx2000?)05:21
fabbionekylem: i am still rediffing the ia64 patches for UP/SMP05:21
fabbionebrb05:22
lamont-awayfabbione: at least so it appears to this reporter.  anyway, back in several hours.  SMS'able, etc, etc.05:22
zuloi...brain hurts05:34
zulso many cd's to buy next month05:42
zulnew nine inch nails new system of a down...time for lunc05:50
zullunch even05:50
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jbaileyfabbione: Will you take 9940?  apparently version.h is in linux-headers-2.6.10-5-68607:23
fabbionehold on07:27
fabbione#define UTS_RELEASE "2.6.10-5-686"07:28
fabbione#define LINUX_VERSION_CODE 13261807:28
fabbione#define KERNEL_VERSION(a,b,c) (((a) << 16) + ((b) << 8) + (c))07:28
fabbioneINVALID!07:28
fabbionewtf is he talking about...07:28
fabbioneif vmware doesn't know about UTS_RELEASE ENOTOURPROBLEM07:28
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jbaileyfabbione: Lovely.  Since ther'es no linux-headers package I'm likely to get these again.  I'll know how to tell them to stuf fit now ;)11:13
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