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| ajmitch_ | hi ogra | 01:41 |
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| ogra | heya | 01:42 |
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| dholbach | hey | 01:51 |
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| zul | hola | 02:13 |
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| dholbach | bye guys | 03:07 |
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| \sh | morning | 10:15 |
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| dholbach | hey | 10:33 |
| === \sh is listening to "Down Under" by "Men At Work" | ||
| ogra | hehe | 10:34 |
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| ogra | ogra too | 10:34 |
| \sh | phew...i'll tell you, to establish ubuntu on a server we have to do a lot of work | 10:36 |
| \sh | finally, do i need dbus and hald for a server? | 10:37 |
| Treenaks | \sh: need: no. want: yes. | 10:37 |
| \sh | dbos or hald? | 10:37 |
| Treenaks | both ;) | 10:37 |
| \sh | netstat -an|awk '$1~/^tcp$/&&$6~/^VERBUNDEN$/ { print $0} ' | 10:39 |
| \sh | | wc -l ==> 160 | 10:39 |
| \sh | jabberd2 is running nice | 10:41 |
| \sh | i packaged the proxy65 bytestream implementation (twisted source) and now I'm working on pyicq-t/pyaim-t/pymsn-t | 10:42 |
| \sh | and I will provide a package for MUC for jabberd2 | 10:42 |
| \sh | because the actual package has a dep on jabberd1 | 10:42 |
| \sh | and this gives problems with jabberd2 | 10:43 |
| dholbach | see you later | 10:56 |
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| GheRivero | res | 12:07 |
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| koke | hi motus! | 01:28 |
| koke | I've packaged some perl modules at work, should I put them in NewPackages? | 01:28 |
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| susus | ogra: ping | 03:10 |
| ogra | susus, pong | 03:21 |
| susus | ;o)) | 03:21 |
| Treenaks | ogra: jet-lagged? :P | 03:22 |
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| dholbach | hey | 03:23 |
| Treenaks | hey dholbach | 03:23 |
| dholbach | hey Treenaks | 03:25 |
| susus | hallo dr. D. ;o) | 03:25 |
| Treenaks | "dr D"? | 03:25 |
| dholbach | hahahaha, hallo susus | 03:25 |
| dholbach | susus: where's ogra? is he still alive? | 03:26 |
| dholbach | or sleeping in front of the tv or something? | 03:26 |
| ogra | Treenaks, not anymore, only broken feet from a lot of walking | 03:26 |
| susus | dholbach, Im talking to him ... | 03:27 |
| dholbach | susus: ok :-) | 03:27 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: here? | 03:27 |
| dholbach | tseng: here? | 03:27 |
| dholbach | koke_: here? | 03:27 |
| koke_ | dholbach: yep | 03:27 |
| koke_ | not for much time, though | 03:27 |
| ogra | dholbach, sure, still alive... the TV is to loud to fall asleep here | 03:28 |
| dholbach | koke_: when will you be "here"? :-) | 03:28 |
| dholbach | ogra: i can imagine, i will soon drop into bed | 03:28 |
| dholbach | ogra: in fact, i'm already lying here | 03:29 |
| koke_ | if (here == ".au") { when = "Apr 24 05:55"; } | 03:29 |
| ogra | dholbach, whish i were already, but will have another cigarette and then i'll join the room | 03:30 |
| dholbach | koke_: ahhhhhh ok | 03:30 |
| dholbach | ok | 03:31 |
| dholbach | koke_: will be nice to have you here :-) | 03:31 |
| ogra | koke_, so we should organize somehow, since there wil be not much time during the week to see sydne... | 03:32 |
| ogra | y | 03:32 |
| koke_ | how's the weather in .au?? | 03:32 |
| dholbach | today was bad | 03:32 |
| ogra | today it was a bit cloudy | 03:32 |
| ogra | wasnt bad... | 03:32 |
| koke_ | ogra: yeah, I've promised to bring some photos here :) | 03:32 |
| dholbach | but still much warmer than in germany | 03:32 |
| dholbach | 25-26 degrees celsius on good days | 03:32 |
| koke_ | dholbach: enough for short pants? | 03:32 |
| ogra | it rained the night and parts of the morning | 03:32 |
| dholbach | koke_: of course | 03:33 |
| koke_ | grreat :D | 03:33 |
| dholbach | koke_: be sure to bring both | 03:33 |
| dholbach | wooohoooo | 03:33 |
| koke_ | I hope to be able to do some first upload from there ;) | 03:34 |
| dholbach | hahahaha :-) | 03:34 |
| dholbach | i didnt manage yet :-) | 03:34 |
| dholbach | because our connection is too eff-ing slow | 03:35 |
| ogra | koke, the forecast for next week is sunny, but i doubt you willleave the hotel during the day | 03:35 |
| dholbach | it might break every moment | 03:35 |
| koke | ogra: I'll have to be a tourist at least one day :D | 03:36 |
| ogra | dholbach, as long as the film runs, the guy wont kill the line ;) its his dvd | 03:36 |
| ogra | koke, yep | 03:36 |
| dholbach | ogra: oh i see | 03:36 |
| ogra | at least 45 min to go | 03:36 |
| koke | well, 15:35 here and I'm with an empty stomach, have to go! | 03:37 |
| Treenaks | 15:37 < koke> well, 15:35 here and I'm with an empty stomach, have to go! | 03:37 |
| Treenaks | koke: you're lying :P | 03:38 |
| dholbach | i will be off to bed soon anyway (sleeping) :-) | 03:38 |
| Treenaks | dholbach: it's only 23:38 | 03:38 |
| koke | Treenaks: usually I plug my connection after booting, so I have few ntp :D | 03:39 |
| Treenaks | koke: ntp should be mandatory | 03:39 |
| ogra | Treenaks, yeah and he wakes us all up at 5:30 in the morning... :( | 03:39 |
| Treenaks | ogra: urgh | 03:39 |
| koke | Treenaks: maybe it's place is on if-up.d instead of init.d :) | 03:40 |
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| dholbach | good night everyone | 03:42 |
| ogra | night dholbach | 03:42 |
| susus | bye dr. D. | 03:44 |
| dholbach | bye susus | 03:45 |
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| bddebian | Hey folks | 04:23 |
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| \sh | guys... | 05:04 |
| \sh | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/grubconf/ | 05:04 |
| \sh | but if I do a apt-get source grubconf I can't get it | 05:05 |
| Burgundavia | stupid question, you have enabled universe source? | 05:07 |
| \sh | Burgundavia: yes :) | 05:08 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 05:08 |
| Burgundavia | just thought I would remove the stupid stuff first | 05:08 |
| Burgundavia | let me try | 05:08 |
| Burgundavia | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=grubconf&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all | 05:09 |
| Burgundavia | no exist according to this | 05:09 |
| Burgundavia | so I suspect that the packages.gz doesn't have it | 05:09 |
| \sh | yeah... | 05:11 |
| \sh | so it's officially gone | 05:11 |
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| zyga | what is the resync cycle with regards to sid packages? | 05:24 |
| GheRivero | res | 05:25 |
| Burgundavia | zyga, constant and on auto right now | 05:42 |
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| zyga | Burgundavia: so freeciv 2.0 might be resynced any moment :> ? | 05:48 |
| Burgundavia | has it hit debian? | 05:50 |
| zyga | Burgundavia: I think so | 05:51 |
| zyga | Burgundavia: I've checked debian archives but I could not find sid archives | 05:51 |
| zyga | w8 | 05:51 |
| zyga | Burgundavia: stable has old version | 05:52 |
| zyga | Burgundavia: it's in experimental | 05:53 |
| zyga | Burgundavia: does ubuntu sync experimental? | 05:53 |
| Burgundavia | should hit sid soon | 05:57 |
| Burgundavia | ubuntu syncs sid | 05:58 |
| zyga | Burgundavia: darn, more waiting :/ | 05:58 |
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| zyga | Burgundavia: is it safe to install debian packages over ubuntu? | 05:58 |
| Burgundavia | might be | 05:59 |
| Burgundavia | I wouldn;t | 05:59 |
| Burgundavia | is going to hit breezy very soon | 05:59 |
| Burgundavia | you can wait a week for your crack | 05:59 |
| zyga | Burgundavia: does something major happen when packages are synced? | 06:00 |
| zyga | (apart from s/Debian/Ubuntu sed script ;-) ? | 06:00 |
| Burgundavia | it will get announced | 06:00 |
| Burgundavia | on breezy-changes | 06:00 |
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| zyga | Burgundavia: I was talking about packages themselves | 06:00 |
| Burgundavia | if you run breezy your packages will get updated | 06:01 |
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| herve | hello | 07:23 |
| trulux | jezz, where's tritium? :) | 07:29 |
| \sh | hy herve | 07:31 |
| tritium | trulux, I'm back :) | 07:56 |
| trulux | tritium: and tritium went back from the darkness and the shadows, to bring light and hope to this new movement of the Rebel force... | 07:58 |
| trulux | sorry of the redundancy | 07:58 |
| trulux | tritium: howya? | 07:58 |
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| tritium | trulux, :) I'm fine, thanks. YOu? | 07:59 |
| trulux | tritium: great, too busy with school :( | 07:59 |
| tritium | trulux, me too - I'll probably not be around as often for the next few months | 07:59 |
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| trulux | tritium: I hope I will get much more done in summer | 08:01 |
| trulux | but now, I'm about to take the school wimps back to drawing board until I finish this trimester, then I'll have free time to "waste" | 08:02 |
| tritium | I should be all done by end of July | 08:03 |
| \sh | *yawn* | 08:06 |
| herve | \sh, it's only 8! | 08:06 |
| \sh | herve: hey, I worked 11h :) | 08:06 |
| \sh | already :) | 08:06 |
| herve | heh, I worked hard too :-) | 08:07 |
| trulux | christ! | 08:07 |
| \sh | herve: :) finally i have to finish one package :( but today, I don't think I have the strength to do it.. | 08:08 |
| herve | don't worry | 08:08 |
| herve | breezy is out in October :-) | 08:08 |
| \sh | herve: well...i don't think we will manage to create a nice ubuntu server solutions until october ;) | 08:09 |
| herve | we don't have to before this date :-) | 08:10 |
| herve | hoary remains the solution for production servers until then | 08:10 |
| \sh | herve: i was playing with the jabberd2 package...and I want to change the init.d scripts and tasks, cause it's not for virtualhosting of jabber2 sessions | 08:13 |
| herve | I guess it's a universe package? | 08:15 |
| \sh | think so | 08:18 |
| herve | I'd be interested in your patch a few days later | 08:18 |
| \sh | hmmwhy is apache2 not logging? | 08:22 |
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| tritium | trulux, did you need anything, or were you just curious where I've been | 08:41 |
| tritium | ? | 08:41 |
| trulux | tritium: just curious about you | 08:51 |
| tritium | trulux, I was in Arizona the past week | 08:51 |
| trulux | tritium: really? AFAIK it's a cool place | 08:51 |
| tritium | trulux, yep, the desert southwest is beautiful, and I saw a U2 concert | 08:52 |
| \sh | can it be, that apache2-2.0.53 and ubuntu have prpoblems with setenvif? | 08:52 |
| \sh | caus I can't get logging running with SetEnv enabled | 08:53 |
| trulux | tritium: U2? hah, I just like a few themes from them | 08:54 |
| tritium | I see | 08:55 |
| trulux | oops, anyone can give some time of debian packaging fu? I'm having the very last trobule before having the gcc-3.4-hardened package done | 08:56 |
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| \sh | and strike another bug | 09:07 |
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| AstralJava | herve: Did you solve that Dia problem yet? | 09:21 |
| herve | AstralJava, no | 09:23 |
| herve | there's a locale issue I'm not able of sorting out | 09:23 |
| AstralJava | Ahh, shoulda thought of that. | 09:23 |
| herve | AstralJava, I was about to tell you something when you left yesterday... | 09:23 |
| herve | ... but I forgot what :-) | 09:23 |
| AstralJava | Heh. :) | 09:23 |
| AstralJava | What's your locale then? | 09:24 |
| herve | fr_FR.UTF-8 | 09:24 |
| AstralJava | Mine's fi_FI.UTF-8@euro | 09:25 |
| herve | what's the separator for decimals? | 09:26 |
| AstralJava | Uhh, forgot how to check that. | 09:26 |
| herve | I guess you know how to write decimals in Suomi (?) :-) | 09:27 |
| herve | anyway, here's the result in French: http://deb.oursours.net/motu/l10n.diff | 09:28 |
| AstralJava | Bhah. :) Can ya tell I'm slow? | 09:29 |
| AstralJava | It's . | 09:31 |
| AstralJava | So it means you need to set the decimal separator when exporting .ps files. Nasty. | 09:33 |
| AstralJava | Wonder how many locales have , by default? | 09:33 |
| herve | that's not the point | 09:34 |
| AstralJava | Oh? | 09:34 |
| herve | dia or the lib behind it shouldn't be affected by the locale | 09:34 |
| herve | or force C defaults | 09:34 |
| AstralJava | Yeah, I get that. So filed a bug report, did you? I just meant that in between, you should do that. | 09:35 |
| AstralJava | In no way is that acceptable, yes. | 09:35 |
| herve | I asked ubuntu-devel's opinion | 09:36 |
| herve | which has turned to have none for now :-) | 09:36 |
| AstralJava | Hehe. :) | 09:36 |
| AstralJava | Well, if I can be of further help, let me know okay? | 09:37 |
| herve | ok, thank you | 09:37 |
| AstralJava | And also if you recall what you meant to ask me in the first place. :) | 09:37 |
| herve | I think I just wanted to show you the difff | 09:37 |
| AstralJava | Alrighty then. | 09:37 |
| AstralJava | Gotta go catch some sleep now. | 09:37 |
| herve | good idea :-) | 09:38 |
| herve | see you later | 09:38 |
| AstralJava | I'll be on later, do you guys have a mailing list? Can't access irc at work. | 09:38 |
| herve | no | 09:38 |
| AstralJava | Hmm, too bad. | 09:38 |
| AstralJava | Well, see ya! G'night. | 09:39 |
| herve | night! | 09:39 |
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| herve | houba ! | 09:49 |
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| \sh | houba? | 10:28 |
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| stazz | How wrong channel is this to ask for assistance in building my own .deb -packages? | 10:44 |
| herve | not so much wrong | 10:45 |
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| stazz | okay.. I saw some pbuild -guide on the wiki, is that the ultimate way to build pkgs? | 11:10 |
| stazz | or are they done the traditional debian way? | 11:10 |
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| ogra | stazz, pbuilder is the best way to do it | 11:12 |
| herve | hey ogra ! | 11:12 |
| ogra | heeeeey herve :) | 11:12 |
| stazz | ogra: right.. do I need to create the.. the.. controlfiles manually? | 11:12 |
| schweeb | pbuilder is second only to having your own buildd :) | 11:12 |
| herve | stazz, the main benefit of pbuild is to detect missing build depends | 11:12 |
| stazz | herve: uhm.. when it's performing the configure, you say? | 11:12 |
| herve | ogra, long time not seen.. er, read! | 11:13 |
| ogra | schweeb, lol | 11:13 |
| \sh | evening ogra :) | 11:13 |
| ogra | herve, yeah, finally we sorted the wlan in the hostel... | 11:13 |
| ogra | morning \sh | 11:14 |
| herve | ogra, jet lag issues? | 11:14 |
| \sh | grmpf | 11:14 |
| stazz | uhm.. what about breezy? are the development repositories accessible somehow? | 11:14 |
| ogra | herve, i think i'm through now.... only the noise is an issue....our room goes to the big street and you cant sleep with closed window | 11:15 |
| herve | without? | 11:15 |
| herve | stazz, sure | 11:15 |
| herve | ogra, say hi to Daniel and the others | 11:15 |
| ogra | they are still upstairs... | 11:16 |
| stazz | herve: hmmh. spent the most part of the day reading through the wiki, do you have any links that'd prove themselves useful? :) | 11:16 |
| ogra | ah, wait | 11:16 |
| schweeb | I wish I could go to .au :( | 11:16 |
| schweeb | but, at least I'm gettin a new job... can try to go to the next conference, wherever/whenever it may be | 11:17 |
| \sh | stazz: whats your problem? you can start the debian way :) | 11:17 |
| herve | stazz, I don't get what you mean | 11:17 |
| stazz | herve: well, is there any information about breezy development and/or repository-links somewhere? | 11:17 |
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| herve | stazz, the repo is s/hoary/breezy in your sources.list | 11:18 |
| stazz | herve: oh, that simple.. | 11:18 |
| herve | and our main dev concern for now is the gcc 4.0 transition | 11:18 |
| ajmitch | ogra: you're awake early today :) | 11:19 |
| stazz | gcc 4.0 sounds like a big leap.. considering 3.4 is already giving people a hard time.. | 11:19 |
| schweeb | that's what I thought too, but apparently it's not a huge deal | 11:20 |
| herve | stazz, you get fear reading compile logs | 11:20 |
| ogra | ajmitch, its loud here | 11:20 |
| ajmitch | ah | 11:20 |
| schweeb | the bigger problem is crappily written c++ code, as I understand it | 11:20 |
| ogra | ajmitch, looking forward to the hotel next week | 11:21 |
| ajmitch | :) | 11:21 |
| herve | dia is not c++ but the code is sure rotten! | 11:22 |
| \sh | any sourcecode is rotten, if you didn't write it by yourself | 11:23 |
| ajmitch | herve: it may be beneficial to see if fedora cvs has any patches for programs that don't compile well | 11:23 |
| herve | ajmitch, sure | 11:23 |
| ajmitch | since FC4 is coming out with gcc 4.0 as well :) | 11:23 |
| herve | \sh, it's full of types mismatch, static functions vs "dynamic" calls, etc. | 11:24 |
| ajmitch | bbl | 11:24 |
| herve | night all | 11:24 |
| \sh | ajmitch: i think this is ian m. concern, that we have a better transition rate towards new software ;) did u read his blog? | 11:25 |
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