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b2sdockane: sounds old enough that I wouldn't expect much problem, but I know for some things like aacraid drivers you need to install in expert mode to apt-get the drivers12:00
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thenukewhat again was the tool to install keymaps?12:00
thenukewant to get rid of UTF812:01
nickruddockane, did you ever get printing as you wanted it?12:01
XplOzIonwhen i mount a hdd it stays mounted after a system rebot?12:01
jnkXplOzIon, no, unless it's in /etc/fstab12:01
XplOzIonoh12:02
dockanenickrud, yes did it with the crowbar12:02
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nickrudheh12:02
thenukedpkg keymap something I guess :P12:02
XplOzIonjkn, time to read man fstab12:02
MyKq3okay ppl  i m off to bad12:02
MyKq3nighty night12:02
matt_ok what shud i use for a p2p12:02
XplOzIonnight12:02
dockanenickrud, 2x 60 MB printjobs through lpt1 X)12:02
djm62what are the appropriate kernel headers in terms of uname?12:02
jnkXplOzIon, yeah :)12:03
nickruddockane, that was the image size?12:03
dockanenickrud, no the image size what something above 100 mb12:03
drspinmatt_: BitTorrent or GTK-Gnutella (IMHO)12:03
dockaneb2s, thnx for the info. do you have any experience with intellistations from that generation ?12:03
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nickruddockane, no wonder you wanted something good12:04
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erik_evening12:05
XplOzIonits really recomended to use firestarter?12:05
dockanenickrud, haven't tried to work with my nikon coolscan IV under linux yet (which will produce a lot of more data)12:06
drspinXplOzIon: as a general rule it's a good idea to have a firewall...12:06
nickruddockane, you need 2x p3 1g, yup12:07
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XplOzIonhow do u stop the system default firewall service? (if theres one)12:07
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drspinXplOzIon: there isn't one --12:07
XplOzIonthanks12:08
jnkit's not that usefull with a normal install IMHO12:08
XplOzIoni ask because fedora has one and because i am a noob and i dont plan to return to windows no more!!12:08
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LinuxJonesXplOzIon, good for you ;)12:09
delirewell time for some Kurosawa. night all.12:09
LinuxJonesXplOzIon, it takes a few months to get used to Linux but you will love it trust me12:10
erik_anyone that can suggest a good program to copy a dvd and then shrink it?12:10
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matt_when i click it nothing hapens makes a click sound and nout happens help12:11
stevenjstrange thing with firestarter tray icon though...its not transparent on some gnome panels12:11
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stevenjlighter panels12:11
mishofI followed the instruction on ubuntuguide.com for setting the sound under gnome, and now esound on xmms doesnt work (it worked before) - any ideas?12:11
matt_thats aftr installing limewire12:11
[Spooky] erik_ copy the dvd to the hdd with "Vobcopy" then use "DVDShrink" with wine...12:11
erik_tryed installing DVDShrink, but it wouldnt12:12
[Spooky] erik_ ok maybe a bad wine conf then ?12:12
jnkmishof, what's the guide url?12:13
erik_maby, not shure how to configure it12:13
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[Spooky] erik_ or try to get hold of the "dvdshrink.exe" file instead and just run it...12:13
erik_need to mount win partition then12:14
mishofjnk, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly12:14
[Spooky] erik_ let me see if i can get it for you...12:14
erik_ok12:14
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flodinewhy cant i install mplayer from the package manager12:16
flodineits therree12:16
flodinethere12:16
flodinewhy12:16
djm62flodine: what processor are you on?12:16
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pixil9apt-get install mplayer-custom ?12:17
flodineamd12:17
b2sflodine: 64 bit?12:17
djm62apt-get install mplayer-k612:17
flodineno12:17
flodine260012:17
djm62d'oh...what b2s said12:17
pixil9wouldn't you use -586 or -68612:17
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pixil9who the hell uses a k6 processor12:17
b2sflodine: oh, then should work fine12:17
matt_help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!112:17
matt_java is the problem it wont install12:17
flodinewhat the pm12:18
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[Spooky] erik_ im done shall i send it ?12:18
pixil9matt: just put the jre in /usr/java12:18
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pixil9then go into lime sh runLime.sh12:18
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erik_Sooky ok12:18
jnkmishof, well never done these things and sound works great... were you having some other problems before?12:18
matt_where i get jre12:18
pixil9matt: sec12:19
matt_ok12:19
b2smatt_: did you follow the directions on ubuntuguide?12:19
matt_yes12:19
matt_kept gettign error12:19
pixil9http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=22&PartDetailId=j2re-1.4.2_08-oth-JPR&SiteId=JSC&TransactionId=noreg12:19
pixil9see if that works12:19
erik_Spooky it dont dl12:19
pixil9http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html12:19
pixil9just go there12:19
pixil9make sure you get the JRE12:19
matt_E: Some packages could not be authenticated12:20
pixil9matt_, then goto Linux Platform.. self extracting file12:20
flodinea guys when i try to install mplayer it says......  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed12:20
flodinewhat does that mean12:20
dazedflodine - apt-get -f install12:20
dazedflodine: it means that you need other packages to install the one you want12:21
matt_then what12:21
pixil9you get the file?12:21
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matt_yeah then what12:21
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pixil9chmod u+x j2rewhatever12:21
pixil9./j2rewhatever12:21
[Spooky] erik_ hm strange...12:21
pixil9it'll extract12:21
erik_yes12:22
Atomskdoes anyone installed realplayer codecs for mplayer? is it just a matter of copying the libs in /usr/lib?12:22
erik_it might be cause of the way internet is set up12:22
matt_ok in english12:22
matt_please12:22
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matt_whats whatever?12:22
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cavediverWhy is there dependency problems when installing mplayer with the marrilat repos ?12:23
[Spooky] erik_ its just 791 kb i can mail it to you if you want ?12:23
tahorgcavediver: because it's debian oriented ?12:23
pixil9matt: the filename12:23
pixil9matt: i don't feel like typing it ou12:23
pixil9t12:23
cavedivertahorg: ok.12:23
matt_with .bin or withoput12:23
pixil9with12:23
erik_Spooky when i try installing it, the setup windows come, but get access violation at adress 77EC25B8. Write of address 0073007512:23
matt_whats./jre2whatever?12:24
cavediverNo mplayer for ubuntu that is ?12:24
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matt_help12:24
pixil9matt: just chmod u+x <filename>12:24
matt_its on my desktop and the filename is12:24
tahorgevolution borked in breezy ?12:24
flodinewhy cant libc6 be installed12:24
yahalomcavediver: i installed mplayer through the fedora mplayer guide google it, works great12:24
cavediverMy restart is borked in breezy :)12:24
camcordercoz fedora rocks12:24
matt_j2re-1_4_2_08-linux-i586.bin12:25
cavediverlucka I have both hoary and breezy on my comp12:25
flodineman mplayer getting me sick12:25
b2sbah, mplayer is overrated.  everything works for me with totem-xine or avifile-player12:25
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pixil9matt: goto console12:25
cavediverI need mencoder only..12:25
matt_yeah12:25
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b2sah, I've not done much with encoding stuff.12:26
matt_then12:26
tbirdwhat do yu all use for backing up12:26
tahorgcavediver: http://users.tkk.fi/~tajyrink/proj_info.html#mplayerubuntu12:26
pixil9cd Desktop12:26
cavediverI need to encode vob's to xvid12:26
tbirddoes that use cdrecord ?12:26
matt_yeah then12:26
b2scavediver: aren't there any standalone programs that do that?12:26
tahorgcavediver: (I haven't tried it)12:26
pixil9chmod u+x j2re-1_4_2_08-linux-i586.bin , ./j2re-1_4_2_08-linux-i586.bin12:26
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pixil9just do chmod first.12:26
mmhganybody know how to release and renew a dhcp address?12:26
cavediverb2s: most uses mencoder and transcode12:27
nickrudpixil9, matt_ multiverse has java-package, it takes  the jre.bin and turns it into a deb12:27
[Spooky] cavediver maybe mencoder can do it for you12:27
cavedivermmhg: /etc/init.d/networking restart12:27
matt_chmod: cannot access `,': No such file or directory12:27
matt_help12:27
tbirdjava in ubuntu --> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23592.html12:27
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tahorgmmhg: from man dhclient "The  -r flag explicitly releases the current lease, and once the lease has been released, the client exits."12:28
flodineb2s i installed avi player but it opens then closes12:28
matt_nickrud:wher ei get that12:28
flodinewhen i try to play a movie12:28
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nickrudmatt_, used it debian12:28
mmhgtahorg:  tried that, it renewed to the same ip addr12:28
matt_huh12:28
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b2sflodine: might need some extra codec for that one.  know what sort of movie it is?12:29
tahorgmmhg: change your mac addr :)12:29
tahorg(and ask for an other ip)12:29
matt_help12:29
mmhgtahorg:  that worked, but I had hoped for a less devious method12:29
nickrudmatt_, tbird gave you a great link12:29
b2sflodine: if you do 'dpkg -l avifile\*' you'll see what plugins there are12:29
pixil9E: Package fakeroot has no installation candidate12:29
pixil9why would it say that?12:29
jnkif marillat's mplayer doesn't work, compiling your own package is *really* easy!12:30
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tahorgmmhg: it depends on the server conf12:30
mmhgtahorg: how so/12:30
mmhg?12:30
tahorgmmhg: you can ask him to remember the mac-ip relation12:30
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b2sflodine: alternately, you can search synaptic for avifile or for divx (in the description) to come up with lots of codecs and such12:30
nickrudpixil9, I've got it installed, from main12:30
mmhgtahorg:  ahh...   didn't know that12:30
mmhgtahorg:  thanks12:30
flodinethxs12:30
tahorgmmhg: IIRC there is an option like that in dhcpd12:30
mmhgtahorg:  didn't see dhcpcd running on my sys - is it a default ubuntu daemon?12:31
kakaltommhg, I think so12:31
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tahorgmmhg: 'what' gives you the lease ?12:32
tahorgmmhg: a router ?12:32
mjrmmhg, dhclient3 seems to be the default used12:32
pixil9How the heck does this java-package work12:32
tahorgmmhg: I was talking about the server side12:32
[Spooky] anyone here that have done a offline install of k3b ?12:32
mmhgtahorg, mjr, kakalto:  I'm using dhclient,  server side it's coming off a university server.  Don't know the exact configuration12:33
tahorgmmhg: dhcpd is the server, dhclient ... well, obvious ;)12:33
nickrudpixil9, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23592.html12:33
mmhgtahorg:  I used to run gentoo which used dhcpcd - dhclient was new to me12:33
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tahorgmmhg: pump is a good option too12:34
mmhgtahorg:  that's not a default ubuntu toy either - looks like I may have to do some downloading12:35
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[Spooky] well im off to bed bbl12:35
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pixil9nickrud: thx12:36
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flodineb2s im missing and avifile-sample12:36
nickrudnp12:36
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flodinedo you have that12:37
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b2sall I've got (for avifile) is avifile-player12:37
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mdkeis it possible for me to mount 2 root directories (e.g. /media and /usr) on the same partition? how can I do it? thanks12:37
b2sits really my secondary for when totem-xine has some problem12:37
abarbacciahey all - anybody have any success with bluetooth?12:38
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pixil9nickrud: thx that works good12:39
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nickrudpixil9, and if you ever want to remove it, you can :)12:40
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pixil9nickrud: ya12:40
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flodineb2s i got it work but no sound12:40
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limerI assume that there shouldn't be problems with read/write capability for ntfs.  ?12:40
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jnklimer, you cannot write on ntfs12:41
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jnk(or very limited, or with the windows dll)12:41
limeralright, but mount shows rw12:41
b2sflodine: that's happened to me before, again usually because I'm missing a codec (an audio codec)12:41
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flodineok12:41
tbirdi thought that was the point of captive-ntfs12:41
jnktbird, that one uses the windows driver doesn't it'12:42
pixil9anyone got limewire pro for linux?12:42
limerI don't want to write to it if ntfs isn't considered supported at that level12:42
tbirdyeah the dlls12:42
jnkpixil9, I don't think it's free software12:42
pixil9jnk: oh.12:42
pixil9jnk: that's okay.12:42
tbirdlimewire pro always  ran slower than regular limewire for me12:43
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pixil9tbird: does the regular have spyware and shit12:43
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tbirdpixil9, all p2p sucks like that12:43
tbirdimo12:43
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darkauditpixil9: why not use giFT?12:44
mmhgjnk how did you get mldonkey to work?  I can't even select a network12:44
tbirdapollon is nice12:44
darkaudittbird: concur... using it now :)12:44
jnkmmhg, I added one or two servers, then it found a ton by itself12:44
pixil9what is giFT12:44
cens0redwine + winmx is a pretty good combintaion too.12:44
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tbirdi like how apollon uses the diff networks12:44
jnkmmhg, ah no the last time I imported a server.met file (emule server list). There's a command for that12:45
cens0redtbird diff networks?12:45
Xenguycens0red: we don't really need winmx, do we? :p12:45
mmhgjnk how do I do that?12:45
tbirdyeah12:45
darkauditpixil9: open source p2p...12:45
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cens0redXenguy we don't?12:45
pixil9darkaudit, does it use limewires system?12:45
Xenguycens0red: no, we don't :-)12:45
cmonopoly72Can anyone help me find how to make Windows the default partition?12:45
darkauditpixil9: uses plugins for gnutella, openft, fasttrack, ares, and more12:45
cens0redXenguy what other way is there to connect to the wnp2p protocol?12:46
mmhgjnk it wants a network (no choices in the dropdown) and an ip:port12:46
jnkmmhg, 2 sec12:46
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Xenguycens0red: *sigh* unless I misunderstand, you are suggesting we need wind0ze software to do P2P - if yes, ummm, no :-)12:46
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b2sXenguy: he's asking about a specific network/protocol12:47
Xenguyb2s: ahh12:47
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pixil9pixil9@sarjeet:~$ giftui12:47
pixil9giftui : No host to connect /apps/giftui/daemon/host.12:47
cens0redXenguy actually I was suggesting we need Frontcode software to use frontcode's wnpnp (spl?) protocol. The fact that Frontcode. The fact that Frontcode only makes a client for windows, is a side issue.12:47
Xenguyb2s: didn't read far enough up-buffer I guess12:47
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Xenguycens0red: OK, I stand corrected; I misinterpreted your comment12:48
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cens0redXenguy but that aside, giFt is fairly decent too.12:48
darkauditpixil9: you need giftd, and will then need to run gift-setup12:48
jnkmmhg, if you connect to mldonkey through telnet, there's a "servers" command you can use, for example "servers /some/directory/server.met"12:49
pixil9darkaudit, okay thanks12:49
darkauditpixil9: as said before, Apollon is a primo giFT client :)12:49
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darkaudithmm... mall time12:50
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mmhgjnk thanks12:50
cmonopoly72(seeking help) How to make Windows the default partition?12:50
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jnkcmonopoly72, you mean how to make windows boot by default?12:51
cmonopoly72yes12:51
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jnkcmonopoly72, do you have a boot menu where you can choose between windows and ubuntu?12:52
cmonopoly72yes12:52
jnkso you want the windows option to be default12:52
cmonopoly72yes12:52
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jnkwindows is the first?12:53
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jnkin the menu12:53
cmonopoly72No, right now Ubuntu is default.12:53
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jnkcmonopoly72, yes but in the order in the list, what is the position of windows, and the position of ubuntu=12:53
jnk?12:53
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cmonopoly72Last.12:53
jagohello12:53
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jnkcmonopoly72, I need numbers :)12:54
cmonopoly72Oh ok12:54
hobocopsup12:54
cmonopoly72Ubuntu 5.0*12:54
cmonopoly72Then12:54
jagohello can any one help me?12:54
cens0redit's all in the /boot/grub/menu.lst12:54
cmonopoly72Ubuntu safe mode I think12:55
jnkjago, ask, don't ask to ask12:55
dockanewhat do i have to do to get more than 5 fps from tuxracer ?12:55
cmonopoly72Then WindowsXP under "other os"12:55
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jnkcmonopoly72, Ok so I assume Windows is in the third position. Edit your file /boot/grub/menu.lst    and change "default 0" or something like that to "default 2"  .  (2 because grub counts from 0 so the third line is number 2)12:56
jnkcmonopoly72,  you can check at the end of menu.lst  whether windows is indeed the third block12:56
PacoBCNdockane, hardware aceleration?12:56
cmonopoly72Thanks a lot, greatly appreciated.12:56
jagoi installed kubuntu on my machine and when it trys to load kdm it refuses and only lets me use the prompt.  i was forced to reload knoppix to use my machine12:57
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dockanePacoBCN, any hint where to check that ? what is necessary ?12:57
jnkdockane, what's your graphic card?12:57
PacoBCNdockane, what video card do you have?12:57
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dockanejnk, PacoBCN : asus v7700 deluxe / gpu : geforce 2 gts12:58
PacoBCNdockane, ok, geforce2 means you have an nVidia video card12:58
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PacoBCNdockane, what you have to do then is pretty simple12:59
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dockanePacoBCN, i followed ubuntuguide.org12:59
PacoBCNdockane, really?12:59
nickrudjago, ask on #kubuntu, the know kde better12:59
nickrudthey01:00
PacoBCNdockane, then you should already have hw01:00
jagothank you01:00
nickrudnp01:00
Markrianjago, I imagine XOrg isn't set up correctly01:00
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PacoBCNdockane, what do you see if at command prompt you type "glxgears"?01:00
dockanePacoBCN, the tiny application from ndvidia is in the application list. not more, not less.01:00
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dockanePacoBCN, wow =)01:01
PacoBCNdockane, you see the gears?01:01
dockanePacoBCN, 3 gears running rapidly01:01
dockanePacoBCN, yes01:01
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PacoBCNdockane, then you should be able to run games with HW acc.01:01
CB201hey...can someone help me figure out how to mount my CD-ROM drive?01:02
abarbacciaPacoBCN, whats the name of the command to get the gears to show up01:02
PacoBCNI never ran tuxracer so I couldn't tell you what's the biz with it01:02
PacoBCNabarbaccia, glxgears01:02
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dockanePacoBCN, ah ok thnx01:02
nickruddockane, in the terminal, whats the fps01:02
PacoBCNabarbaccia, glxinfo gives you info about your graphic card settings01:03
TuxicityCB201: mount -t auto /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom (something like that)01:03
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CB201Tuxicity, I know that part01:03
abarbacciaPacoBCN, yea, i was makings sure my damn ATI card had HW acceleration - 420 fps :)01:03
qwehowdy howdy, anybody here installed ubuntu on a beige g3 powermac?01:03
PacoBCN(dammit, it's all 'bout the pope in TV...)01:03
nickrudI don't have hardware accell, and I get 8001:03
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macdanhi01:04
abarbacciawell, 420 is much nicer than 8001:04
PacoBCNabarbaccia, 420 fps?01:04
abarbacciayep01:04
CB201Tuxicity, but when I try to mount it I get the following error: "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd, or other error"01:04
macdani have Ubuntu installed and first impressions is that it seems very nice :)01:04
PacoBCNabarbaccia, that not much :S01:04
PacoBCNabarbaccia, it's nothing, actually01:04
macdanone question, but of a simple one, but i don't know01:04
macdani want the PHP-MySQL module01:04
abarbacciaPacoBCN, no? what should it be for an ATI 9800 xt01:04
PacoBCNI'm having around 2700 fps01:04
abarbacciaokay - maybei  dont have HW acceleration then...hurmm01:04
macdani downloaded a .deb from Ubuntu site, how do I install it?01:04
CB201I have a suspicion that my /dev/hdd (my entire hard drive) it completely blocked, even to superuser01:05
PacoBCNabarbaccia, oh, I don't know but I guess it has to be more anyway01:05
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qwemacdan: dpkg -i pkgname01:05
CB201but I don't know how to change it01:05
flodinewhy does mplayer need these packs ......Depends: libavcodeccvs but it is not going to be installed01:05
flodine  Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed01:05
flodine  Depends: libfontconfig1 (>=2.3.0) but 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 is to be installed01:05
flodine Depends: libpostproc0 but it is not going to be installed01:05
flodine  Depends: libvorbis0a (>=1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed01:05
flodine  Depends: xmms (>=1.2.10+cvs20050209) but 1.2.10-2ubuntu1 is to be installed01:05
abarbacciastop the flood01:05
chadodoes anyone here use wmaker with ubuntu?01:05
flodinewhy dont the package man have them01:05
qwewell, his name is appropriate01:05
chadoim having some problems getting it to run01:05
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nickrudflodine, where are you getting mplayer from?01:05
PacoBCNabarbaccia, you can check it with glxinfo01:05
dockanetux racer is unplayable :(01:06
cens0redI had that problem.01:06
flodinesynaptic01:06
flodineis that wrong01:06
cens0reddockane what vid drivers?01:06
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flodinewell01:06
CB201flodine...install the lib files01:06
CB201you need them01:06
nickruddockane do glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"01:06
dockanecens0red, i followed the advices from ubuntuguide.org for nvidia cards (got a gts2)01:07
flodinethere already installed01:07
nickrudflodine, I mean from marillat or multiverse01:07
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GammaRayapt-get dist-upgrade -f && shutdown -h now01:07
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abarbacciahey, can anybody help me with bluetooth - i have it detecting my phone, but i can't get it to transfer anything01:07
CB201flodine, are you sure? try again01:07
dockanenickrud, it says no01:07
flodineis that from apt01:07
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cens0redflodine had the same problem. Try this at the console: $sudo apt-get install  mplayer-586=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu601:07
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jnkabarbaccia, what kind of phone is it?01:07
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nickruddockane, http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto01:08
macdanqwe: it says it needs "php4-universe-common" which is not installed, i searched for it but it wasn't there, ideas?01:08
GammaRaywill a dist-upgrade download everything and then install or will it go a few at a time?01:08
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ricardo_how to install opera ? i 've already downloaded the package ***.deb01:09
dockanenickrud, but glxgear works01:09
TuxicityHi. The "Hoary Install CD" freezes on "boot: " prompt. I have a USB keyboard. Warty freezes too.01:09
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CB201how do I undo a superblock on /hdd ?01:09
flodineok got it installed do i need anything else for mplayer01:09
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GammaRayricardo_: sudo dpkg -i opera*.deb01:09
jnkGammaRay, almost everything.01:09
dockanenickrud, thats pretty much what ubuntuguide.org says and what i did01:09
nickruddockane, it does here on my lowly voodoo3, which won't accel in 24bit, but which I use for the prettier colors01:09
cens0redflodine mplayer-fonts is kind of handy. Especially if you want to be able to see subtitles.01:10
jnkCB201, I think you can restore a backup or clean it to zeroes with dd01:10
flodinehow do i get that01:10
nickruddockane, xorg is just using sofware mesgl, which is slow01:10
nickrud*mesagl01:10
cens0redby installing it, with apt-get01:11
ricardo_GammaRay , i've done that andobtained two more packages control.tar.gz&data.tar.gz01:11
ricardo_so?01:11
CB201jnk, I don't have a backup.  I've never actually blocked it.  I just tried to mount my CD-ROM drive and I get a "bad superblock on /dev/hdd" error01:11
dockanenickrud, ok i ll try to reconfigure with that dpkg command01:11
erik_exit01:11
flodineok now mplayer wont start my movies there avis01:12
nickruddockane, I don't use those cards, so I can only point :)01:12
flodinewow01:12
CB201jnk, this is the first time I've tried to mount a CD drive01:12
GammaRayricardo_: what's the full name of the deb?01:12
flodinemplayer keeps locing up01:12
flodinewhats up01:12
TuxicityCB201: is it a CD-ROM drive or HDD?01:12
ricardo_wait...opera_8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt_en_sarge-i386.deb01:13
flodineanyone have that problem with mplayer01:13
CB201Tuxicity, it is the CD-ROM drive01:13
flodinehelp me god Da...............01:13
flodinelol01:13
flodinei dont understand this01:14
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nickrudflodine, do you have win32codecs installed?01:14
jnkCB201, the superblock is some data at the beginning of a partition01:14
nickrudflodine, never mind01:14
jnkCB201, what should happen is: you insert the CD, ubuntu finds it01:14
jnkso it doesn't work?01:15
TuxicityCB201: it says bad fs type, so did you try specifying the fs type (-t iso9660) ?01:15
GammaRayricardo_: and no /usr/bin/opera was installed?01:15
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ricardo_GammaRay, let's see...01:16
TuxicityCB201: and BTW, is there a disc in the drive, lol??01:16
macdanwhy is the PHP-MySQL package not mentioned in the Synaptic Package Manager?01:16
CB201jnk, no it doesn't work01:16
flodineyes01:16
CB201Tuxicity, I'll try that...and yes there is a disk in there ;-)01:17
dockanenickrud,  the wiki does not help me because "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" returns "is not installed"01:17
CB201ls01:17
CB201oops, wrong window01:17
djm62dockane: what about xserver-xorg?01:17
nickruddockane, xserver-xorg01:17
ricardo_yes i've "untared" somefile and obtained a file called opera in usr/bin01:17
dockaneah ok01:17
LevanderWhat's the dpkg option to list the "information" about a package you have installed?  I'm looking for the one that prints out the little blurb that describes the package.01:17
jnkCB201, it's a regular cdrom ? (not dvd, audio cd, ... ?)01:17
nickrudLevander, apt-cache show01:17
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dockanei am no choosing x driver manually : is nv = nvida01:18
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dockane?01:18
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jnknv = open source nvidia01:18
flodinecan nyone please help me with mplayer01:18
flodineanyone01:18
CB201jnk, it's actually an audio CD01:19
TestDummyEr..01:19
jnkflodine, try "mplayer -ao esd  some-file..."01:19
TuxicityCB201: you do not need to mount audio CDs01:19
jnkCB201, you cannot "mount" an audio cd01:19
TestDummyThe installer keeps on saying I'm using a non-Ubuntu cd when it's the exact same one I was using to install it with..01:19
CB201jnk...then how do I access files on my audio CD?01:19
TuxicityCB201: just open it in XMMs or Beep Media player or other CD/audio player01:19
tbirdanyone having Errors were encountered while processing:01:20
tbird fontconfig01:20
tbirdE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:20
jnkCB201, layout on an audio cd is completely different to data cds. You just run a cd player, it accesses the drive directly01:20
TestDummyThen it proceeds to try and download 350+MB of stuff it could get off the cd it's saying isn't the right now01:20
TestDummyone*01:20
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TuxicityCB201: or, if you want the audio tracks as files, rip it01:20
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limerI installed privoxy via synaptic and when I try to run it from the terminal:   Fatal error: can't check configuration file '/home/limer/config':  No such file or directory01:21
crazydeb8rI have a very dumb question: After I've installed a program, if it doesn't show up in the menu, how do I figure out what the command to run it is?01:21
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TestDummyTry typing out the name of it??01:22
crazydeb8rdidn't work01:22
flodineok............root@linux:/home/flodine # mplayer -ao esd  some-file..MPlayer 1.0pre6-3.3.5 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer TeamCPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon MP/XP Thoroughbred (Family: 6, Stepping: 1)Detected cache-line size is 64 bytesMMX2 supported but disabled3DNow supported but disabled3DNowExt supported but disabledCPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX SSE01:22
autochthonnight all01:22
Levandernickrud: thanks, worked like a charm!01:22
dockaneshould i enable kernel-framebuffer ?01:22
flodinesorry about the mess01:22
TestDummycrazydeb8r: What's the program?01:22
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helix_i have trouble with my screen resolution01:22
Tuxicitycrazydeb8r: in Synaptic, check the "Installed files" tab and search for files in /usr/bin01:22
nickrudLevander, apt-cache search is also nice :)01:22
crazydeb8rTuxicity: I'll try that01:22
jnkflodine, pv01:22
helix_i already edited xorg.conf several times...but i keep getting the same resolution01:23
helix_even when i change the resolution part01:23
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Tuxicitycrazydeb8r: I mean in the Properties of the package in question, there's a tab called "Installed Files"01:23
nickrudhelix_, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for lines with 'Default mode' it should give you some more info01:23
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Tuxicitycrazydeb8r: otherwise, try searching for the program with the command "locate"01:24
TestDummyEr, yeah. Any idea why the installer is saying I'm giving it the wrong cd when it's the same one it's used for half the install?01:24
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crazydeb8rTuxicity: thanks01:25
Tuxicitycrazydeb8r: np01:25
nickrudcrazydeb8r, a good shortcut is dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin01:25
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Tuxicitynickrud: ya, quicker;)01:26
TuxicityHas anyone been able to install Hoary with a USB keyboard attached ?01:26
TestDummyI'm trying to01:26
TestDummyIt works...01:26
TuxicityTestDummy: huh?01:26
TestDummyBut mine stalls and says I'm using the wrong disc01:26
WhiteRabbitTuxicity, did you disable usb legacy support in the bios01:27
TestDummy(Er, the installer seems to work fine for me with USB devices)01:27
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helix_i got mod 1280x1204 but i still get a lower resolution01:27
WhiteRabbitTuxicity, I disabled pnp aware os & usb legacy support in my bios for just such problems in the past.01:27
flipyis there any way to disable esd?01:27
Tuxicityflipy: killall -9 esd01:28
Markrianflipy, yes: System->Preferences->Sound and then uncheck "Start sound server at startup"01:28
abarbacciahey, i fixed the ati driver thing - i got my hardware accceleration now: glxgears = 5k+01:29
Tuxicityflipy: Markrian's advice is better01:29
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helix_i dont know what could be wrong if X is reading from xorg.conf and my resolution mod there is 1280x1204 but still reads anotherone01:29
underdog'Evening all :)01:29
WhiteRabbitno fear for!01:29
Markrianflipy, but esd is useful unless you've got either ALSA set up nicely, or have an SB Live or Audigy01:29
LinuxJoneshelix_, you upgraded from Warty ?01:30
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helix_i am in hoary01:30
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helix_and i didnt upgrded01:30
TuxicityWhiteRabbit: very interesting... i'll try that01:30
dockaneno nvidia logo / still 5 fps in tuxracer01:30
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jnkhelix_, can you choose the one you want through gnome-display-properties ?01:31
LinuxJoneshelix_, check your screenresolution settings under System >> Preferences01:31
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helix_jnk: i do..but i still get just one choice after adding several to xorg.conf01:31
SysFailthan it must not be reading that file01:31
helix_i even did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:31
jnkhelix_, it may be a problem with the video card driver01:31
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, have you checked the md5sum on the iso & burn't disc before the install?01:32
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flipyI've alsa up and running01:32
TestDummyI don't even know how to check md5 sums01:32
CB201hey01:32
helix_this really sucks01:32
flipyso I think it's no need to use esd01:32
CB201new problem01:32
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, you in linux or windows now?01:32
nickrudhelix_, is the screen refresh rate stuck at 60?01:32
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helix_nickrud: 7501:32
CB201XMMS won't detect my audio CD01:32
jnkflipy, alsa allows for several programs to use sound at the same time01:32
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jnkesd that is01:32
TestDummyI could check it I guess, but how?01:33
abarbacciaanybody use gmailfs in ubuntu?01:33
nickrudhelix_, what kind of card?01:33
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, are you in linux atm?01:33
CB201actually...which directory should the audio CD be in to find?01:33
TestDummyNope01:33
flipyI think alsa it's better for sound deamons, because it is supported by the kernel01:33
TestDummyI would be if it installed, but I'm in Windows01:33
WhiteRabbitabarbaccia, its nice to use01:33
flipyI'd like to turn off OSS and ESD,and just use alsa01:33
helix_nickrud: i81001:33
nickrudhelix_, you need to add a memory line to your config, wait one01:33
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, md5summer @ http://www.md5summer.org/01:33
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS to match01:34
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WhiteRabbitTestDummy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum01:35
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underdogGuys... what's ubuntu's "position", let's say, about the ATI drivers? I have to go through a lot of work in installing them on debian01:35
WhiteRabbitunderdog, its rather what is ati "position" on linuix >  .  <01:36
nickrudhelix_, add a line VideoRam to the Device section. how much memory do you have01:36
helix_nickrud: i have 25601:36
kakaltoI thought GTK was GNOME ToolKit, but it's GIMP ToolKit?01:36
Juhazkakalto, it's both01:36
helix_kakalto: its both01:36
pantzi have a large 'share' partition formatted ext3 - anyone know what options i need to pass to have a rw access for a particular group (id=100) ?01:36
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nickrudhelix_, ok VideoRam 3276801:37
pantzi want to share it between ubuntu on hda1 and kubuntu on hda301:37
kakaltowhy does gtk.org say Gimp TK, instead of Gnome TK?01:37
helix_nickrud: under what line01:37
stevenjok does anyone use gwget2 and fireget...for some unknown reason gwget2 is not .90 version in Synaptic; however there is a deb package on the gwget2 site....can someone tell me what to do because apparently fireget is not working with .7 version of gwget201:37
nickrudthat'll give you 32M, which should get you more resolutions.01:37
camcorderkaklto: it's gimp toolkit01:37
camcorderkakalto even01:37
nickrudthe Section Device, right below where it says i81001:37
TestDummyBlah01:38
TestDummyWhiteRabbit: They don't match01:38
Juhazunderdog, fglrx drivers don't come on installation cd's, but it is easy to install them from internet01:38
TestDummyThat sucks :|01:38
pantzthis line in fstab - dev/hda2       /media/share    ext3    defaults        0       2 - only gives root rw access01:38
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, Ok you can fix it really easyly ever used rsync?01:38
camcorderkakalto: but it's nothing to do w/ gimp. it used to do though .01:38
TestDummyNope01:38
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, you can use rsync to fix the iso to be perfect01:39
TestDummyOkay..01:39
stevenjanyone know if I can safely install this? --- http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gwget/gwget-0.93_0.93-1_i386.deb  thanks!01:39
WhiteRabbitinstead of redownloading01:39
nickrudpantz, did you ever find out about your wierd mount problem?01:39
helix_damn..it same resolution01:40
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pantznickrud, yeah i booted the live cd and ran fsck with the badblocks option (-c) it found my dodgy /etc/mtab file and fixed it - rebooted into ubuntu and here i am without any problem :)))01:40
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nickrudit's nice to have nice tools :)01:40
flipyif I mount the windows partition, update-grub will not see it anymore, and I have to edit the menu.lst every time01:41
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flipyis there any way to solve that?01:41
pantzyes it is - and its nice to know about them :)01:41
mishofQ: some guide tells me to edit /etc/modeprobe.conf but i dont seem to have it ... (???)01:41
nickrudhelix_, if you want, you could put xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log on pastebin.com & I look01:41
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thechitowncubsHey01:41
CB201I can't mount my audio CD in XMMS01:41
thechitowncubsI want to start laptop-mode at boot01:41
thechitowncubswhat should I put in the command field of the sessions options?01:41
CB201I tried using the Audio Cd player plugin01:42
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CB201with no success01:42
thechitowncubsthis is how i start it in the terminal: sudo laptop-mode start, so what should I put in the sessions command field?01:42
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, you wanna use rsync or redownload?01:42
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TestDummyI don't feel like redownloading it01:42
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jnkCB201, try gnome-cd01:43
CB201can any ubuntu/XMMS users out there tell me which directory I should put under Device in the CD plugin01:43
helix_under Driver "i810"01:43
nickrudhelix_, yes01:43
helix_futch01:43
nickrud:)01:43
PacoBCNAnd right after tune this radio: http://69.90.184.250:828201:43
helix_with parenthesis as well01:43
CB201jnk, I got an "error reading CD" message01:43
PacoBCN"it's wonderful..."01:43
flipyis there any way to install bootsplash to ubuntu?01:44
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, one 2nd while a locate a server that has a rsync module running ;)01:44
jnkCB201, the device I guess is something like /dev/hdc or /dev/hdd01:44
LinuxJonesCB201, /media/cdrom0 usually01:44
TestDummy?????01:44
TestDummyThat made no sense01:44
nickrudhelix_, i don't _think_ you need any quotes01:44
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WhiteRabbitTestDummy, the server must be running rsync in order to do this01:44
miragecan one install from the livecd?01:44
helix_nickrud: still failed01:44
TestDummyOkay, well, I don't know how to find one01:44
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, whats your geo location?01:45
TestDummyUh, I'm in the States..01:45
nickrudhelix_, I'm at a loss without seeing the logs01:45
CB201LinuxJones, I tried /media/cdrom001:45
CB201LinuxJones, I ran the Check CD option and got nothing01:45
stazzhow does one adjust vim's depth of c-indents?01:45
CB201LinuxJones, the error is Failed to Read Table of Contents01:46
nickrudhelix_, you are restarting X with ctrl delete backspace at the login, right?01:46
miragecan I install ubuntu from the livecd or do I need the install CD in that case?01:47
HrdwrBoByou need the install cd01:47
miragetoo bad.01:47
TestDummyWait a second..01:47
TestDummyWhiteRabbit: Uh... I just noticed something01:48
helix_nickrud: yes01:48
TestDummyThey do match >_< . I was looking at the MD5 for the i386-live ISO, not install01:48
LinuxJonesCB201, is your cd scratched up ?01:48
CB201LinuxJones...no...01:48
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, well that will save us both on time ;)01:48
nickrudgetting desperate :)01:48
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TestDummyWhat's wrong with this thing then?01:49
CB201it keeps suggesting that there's no disk in the drive01:49
miragedoes ubuntu have back-compatibility with deb?01:49
LinuxJonesCB201, double click the icon on the desktop when you put a cd in the drive01:49
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, & you have pnp aware os & usb leg support off in the bios?01:49
TestDummyI think so..01:49
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, is this on a laptop by chance?01:49
TestDummyNope.01:50
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, you used nero to burn?01:50
CB201LinuxJones, I'm not running GNOME so there is no CD01:50
TestDummyI did :|01:50
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CB201*icon01:50
LinuxJonesCB201, what are you running ?01:50
TestDummyMy buner is kinda eccentric..01:50
TestDummySometimes it makes bad burns01:50
CB201LinuxJones, fluxbox01:50
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TestDummyPerhaps if I tried a reburn..01:50
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, tell me you aren't using a cd gen'ed key for nero01:50
TestDummyYou asking me if I'm using a pirated version??01:51
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WhiteRabbitTestDummy, as nero blacklists gen'ed keys these days & cause funky burns even with the md5sum in tact as it can funk the fs of the burn up & cause you trouble01:51
TestDummyNo, I'm using the one I got off the disc that came with the drive I bough01:51
TestDummyMines legit.01:51
LinuxJonesCB201,  do you have the cd mounted ? type sudo mount | grep cdrom01:51
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CB201omg, I was just told that I don't need to mount audio CDs01:52
CB201going around in circles here01:52
kakaltohas anyone tried the rc3 of debian installer for sarge?01:52
slappy16you dont01:52
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slappy16grip uses the /dev/cdrom01:52
Zugoti've been working all afternoon trying to figure out why this I can't copy this 17GB file over the wan at the job01:52
LinuxJonesCB201,  I havn't been following your entire conversation dude01:52
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Zugoti'm gonna vent my frustrations by answering questions on #ubuntu01:52
slappy16thats what ive been doing01:52
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nickrud:)01:52
slappy16im not even using it anymore01:52
slappy16hey nick!01:53
nickrudhi, slappy16 , no apostates :)01:53
CB201LinuxJones, whenever I try to mount an audio CD I get an error telling me it's the wrong type of files01:53
slappy16did seven-six-two reinstall yesterday or get a fix?01:53
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, have you tryed to burn it again its possible the media is borked aka the CD-R itself in some weird way?01:53
slappy16you dont need to mount an audio cd01:53
TestDummyIt's a CD-RW01:53
nickrudslappy16, which problem was that, I remember him, but not the problem :)01:53
slappy16oihhh01:54
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, bingo!01:54
slappy16mp3's?01:54
TestDummyPerhaps I should try a new disc..01:54
TestDummyBut I have none.01:54
slappy16it was the dpkg issue w/ /var/lib/dpkg01:54
TestDummyJust 10 or so CD-RW's01:54
CB201LinuxJones, that doesn't happen when I try to read from normal data CDs01:54
TestDummy?01:54
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, unused cd-rws?01:54
TestDummyReused..01:54
Zugoti bought some cheap cds from circuit city the other day...01:54
TestDummyYou think I'd use a rewritable disc only once?01:54
nickrudslappy16, how could I forget? I think he's reinstalling :)01:54
Zugotdidn't realize they were only 4x...01:54
TestDummy(Yeah, they are kinda cheapy brand come to think of it)01:54
slappy16lol...ya, i cant believe i remember01:54
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, As in hey these are new & haven't been used yet...01:54
TestDummyAnd they are only 4x for me too, says 12 though01:55
TestDummyReally used..01:55
TestDummyI guess I could pick up a fresh pack sometime01:55
nickrudHow could I forget someone deleting everything in /var/lib/dpkg :)01:55
slappy16lol..no kidding..well, he did say it was because of fsck01:55
WhiteRabbitTestDummy, Im gonna chalk it up to that although that may not very well be the problem at hand, But I'd suggest getting some unused burning media for your next OS burn ;)01:55
nickrudslappy16, that's the best guess.01:56
LinuxJonesCB201,  >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MultimediaHOWTO#cd-player01:56
slappy16does anyone have a usb laser mouse that locks up occasionally?01:56
TestDummyI guess I could try erasing it, reburning it and give it one more go01:56
TestDummyAnd if that doesn't work, to the store to get a few new discs..01:56
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WhiteRabbitTestDummy, you could but if its not gonna break the bank I'd go ahead & grab some cd-r's01:56
TestDummyI guess I'll do that.01:57
LinuxJonesCB201,  double check those settings01:57
TestDummyThanks for the help :P01:58
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gordonjcphey all02:02
goldfishhi02:02
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cens0redmorning.02:03
WhiteRabbitAfternoon02:03
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kakaltoty02:04
nickrudquietest I've seen since release02:04
Juhazis there a dpkg command for seeing which package a given file belongs to?02:04
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slappy16dpkg -S02:04
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krusbjornnow that everyone seems bored, i might just as well ask how to get out of the RAM memory djungle ;) anyone know any performance diffs between kingston value, geil value and corsair value?02:05
Juhazdoh. of course, tried that first but it didn't work, forgot that it needs absolute path.02:06
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helix_rudnick: you still here?02:08
nickrudyup02:08
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flipyif I install a set of packages with synaptic, is there any way to do something like a rollback?02:08
chombeehello everyone - I have an absolutely HORRENDOUS problem with Ubuntu probably related to postfix configuration that I really need a hand with. My laptop is apparently delivering cron and anacron error messages to root@mydomain.com, that is the domain of the email and webserver I use, not localdomain, and my administrator is getting spammed and so he's killing my account. It just started doing this apparently for no r02:08
chombeeeason. I found mydomain.com in /etc/hosts and the other postifx hosts file and removed it. Does anyone know how I can force a reset of the postfix config to a safe default? Or how I can verify for sure where these error messages are now being sent so I know I'm safe? (It could also be that they're being bounced to my beleagured admin). I'm monitoring eth1 now for packets on port 25.02:08
helix_do you want me to dcc you the xorg.conf02:08
nickrudthat's fine02:08
goldfishlol02:09
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busfahrer_Excuse me, the Firefox on Hoary lists itself as "Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.2)"... now what is it really, 1.0 or 1.0.2?02:09
NetwrkMonkeywhat would cause my system clock to gain time in hoary, this didn't happen in warty02:10
nickruddoes anyone remember the dpkg command that that reinstalls the original config?02:10
concept10daylight savings time?02:10
helix_dpkg-recongifure <package>02:10
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helix_reconfigure*02:10
thr1ce1.0.202:11
nickrudhelix_, no, it actually reinstalls the package, and force-overwrites back to the default.02:11
nickrudthen you run dpkg-reconfigure02:11
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helix_i am going to install a kernel from source02:11
helix_i hope that helps out02:12
helix_generic always suck02:12
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nickrudhelix_, use ubuntu's sources, it'll save you pain02:12
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dcravennickrud, isn't it "dpkg-reconfigure --purge remove <package>"?02:12
NetwrkMonkeyit's gaining minutes02:12
zero[] anybody here use mono/c# in ubuntu?02:12
helix_zero[]  i do02:13
flipyif I install a set of packages with synaptic, is there any way to do something like a rollback?02:13
mellohey guys, can i update GAIM to the newest version? and is it worth it?02:13
nickruddcraven, dpkg-reconfigure runs the confguration utility debconf, it doesn't install anything.02:13
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dcravennickrud, oh yeah.. I meant apt-get instead of dpkg-reconfigure.... Oops.02:14
chombeeI'm looking at man, apparently it is just dpkg-reconfigure postfix02:14
busfahrer_Thanks.02:14
chombee'reconfigures packages after they have already been installed'02:14
nickruddcraven, yeah I think you're right :)02:14
zero[] helix_: do i need to install gcc-sharp from source to use mono/c#?02:14
zero[] i have mono installed02:15
zero[] from synaptic02:15
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dcravenchombee, I'm not sure how well that will work if the config has been modified manually though. Something tells me an md5sum is kept so that you don't lose manual modifications (thankfully).02:15
zero[] gtk-sharp02:15
zero[] oops02:15
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nickrudchombee, yeah, but dpkg-reconfigure won't affect everything, just most things.02:16
|QuaD-zero[] : do an apt-cache show mono see if its installed02:16
tweekis totem-xine known to be buggy as hell in amd64?02:16
Xeon3De02:16
Xeon3Derm.. how does one install 3d acceleration for nvidia on ubuntu? :P02:16
zero[] |Quad-: it is. i can also run the command "mono"02:16
nickrudchombee, what's in your /etc/aliases02:16
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dcravenzero[] , it's libgtk-cil.02:17
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chombeenothing too suspicous was in there when I first checked. I've since set sysadmin, webmaster, abuse, postmaster and root to 'sean'. Previously postmaster was 'root' and the others ommitted. Root was set to 'sean' though02:18
dcravenI love the debian package naming conventions (assuming there is a convention)...02:18
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|QuaD-zero[] : ok02:18
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XplOzIonXeon3D Read http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver02:18
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nickrudok02:19
AtholasThere seems to be a lot of eye candy stuff in Ubuntu like shadow under the mouse etc etc. How can I disable those?02:19
zero[] great! got it working, thanks02:19
goldfishAtholas: u got an nvidia crad?02:20
goldfish*card02:20
zero[] ah, i love apt-get02:20
XplOzIonnvidia-settings02:20
Atholasgoldfish: no :(02:20
goldfishah right02:20
goldfishhmm02:20
chombeeIs there a log somewhere which would show the messages being sent to root@mydomain and show that they are now being sent to localdomain. so I can be sure I've fixed it?02:20
dcravenAtholas, shadow under the mouse probably comes with the mouse cursor theme.02:20
goldfishI was gonna suggest xcompmgr02:20
AtholasI thought it is an xorg problem that is causing this slowdown :(02:21
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LinuxJoneschombee, I can post my  /etc/postfix/main.cf to pastebin.ca if you want to compare ?02:21
duncanmis there a firefox 1.0.3 for Hoary?02:21
nickrudchombee, /var/log/mail.log02:21
l33txpok guys.. the n00b is back..02:21
XplOzIonlol02:21
dcravenAtholas, there is a /apps/metacity/preferences/reduced_resources gconf key that you could set to true too. But that will only affect some Metacity eye-candy stuff.02:21
l33txpI gave up on my ATI drivers... now I'm onto Opera browser... I downloaded the version for my distro... now how do I install???02:21
dcravenNot really eye-candy, but y'know.02:21
l33txpI have this file...02:22
l33txpopera_8.0-20050415.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb02:22
dcravenduncanm, only what you see in the repository.02:22
Xeon3Dthanks XplOzIon02:22
tahorgl33txp: dpkg -i02:22
Atholasdcraven: I just tried changing theme and the mouse shadow is still there. Probably it isn't a theme-related issue.02:22
zero[] you guys think c# is better than java?02:22
XplOzIonXeon3D no problem02:22
tahorgl33txp: (your nick sucks btw)02:22
l33txpheh.. I know.. it's just the nic I've used for years..02:22
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chombeeLinuxJones, sure why not?02:23
gordonjcphello02:23
dcravenAtholas, you don't have composite enabled do you? Do the windows have shadows?02:23
tahorgl33txp: :)02:23
LinuxJoneschombee, :)02:23
chombeenickrud - inspecting that log file02:23
gordonjcpcan anyone give me some help with Evolution?02:23
dcravenzero[] , I think Mono is better than Java.02:23
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LinuxJoneschombee, http://pastebin.ca/985002:23
_machado_hi !! i'm trying to install fltk-1.1.602:23
dcravenzero[] , but you may feel differently.02:23
dcravenzero[] , there are Java bindings to GTK as well if you  prefer.02:24
_machado_and checking for jpeg_CreateCompress in -ljpeg... no !!! what lib i have to install ?02:24
chombeeLinuxJones, thanks!02:24
LinuxJoneschombee, I am sure the myhostname is the address that postfix mails to02:24
l33txpcrap.. how do I get to the desktop directory on the command line??02:24
b2s_machado_: I'd guess it was libjpeg02:24
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b2sl33txp: cd ~/Desktop02:25
tahorgl33txp: cd ~/Desktop02:25
l33txpty02:25
krusbjornl33txp: cd  ~/Desktop02:25
makcan someone help me mount a device that is connected via usb?02:25
tahorgcombo !02:25
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krusbjorn;)02:25
_machado_i try  apt-get install libjpeg02:25
_machado_but doen't work02:25
l33txp"No such directory or file"02:25
l33txplol02:25
helix_zero[]  there is no gcc sharp02:25
helix_lol02:25
Atholasdcraven: I have just set the reduce_resources key to true. Hope it works. And I don't have composite enabled at all02:25
tahorgl33txp: cd ~02:25
b2sl33txp: cd ~ ; ls02:25
helix_zero[]  install mono and it comes with its own compilers "mcs"02:26
XplOzIonremember to write the D in capital Desktop!!02:26
dcravenAtholas, if it is going to work, the effects will be seen immediately.02:26
zero[] helix_: yeah, i meant gtk-sharp. i already got it all working02:26
Atholasdcraven: I don't know if this is a placebo effect or what, it does seem a bit snappier02:26
Atholasdcraven: Thanks a lot.02:26
makanyone? I know this is a simple thing, the device is showing up under lsusb, its all there, i just dont know how to mount it02:27
dcravenAtholas, no problemo.02:27
helix_zero[]  if you want to test it out install "muine" or "f-spot"02:27
tahorgl33txp: you should read some basic cli tutorials02:27
zero[] helix_: i compiled a hello world program and ran it, worked.. hehe02:27
XplOzIonmak, try man mount02:27
helix_w00t02:27
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zero[] i love apt-get... how did i ever get along without it02:28
dcraven_machado_, did you try libjpeg62-dev?02:28
makXplOxlIon, i know about mount, I just dont know what /dev/"device" it is02:28
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tahorg<mindtrick>use smart</mindtrick>02:29
XplOzIonmak, do you know how to list your devices? sudo fdisk -l02:29
b2smak try checking dmesg|tail and seeing if something shows up there right after you plug in the device02:29
l33txpguys...02:29
l33txp"dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:"02:29
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b2sXplOzIon: that won't always work (doesn't even list my hda!)02:29
l33txp"opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however:02:29
l33txp  Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.02:29
l33txpdpkg: error processing opera (--install):02:29
l33txp dependency problems - leaving unconfigured02:29
l33txpErrors were encountered while processing:02:29
l33txp opera"02:29
tahorgl33txp: sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt02:29
XplOzIonb2s, really? till now havent failed on me =D02:30
dcravenl33txp, you think you might need to install the dependancy?02:30
chombeeLinuxJones, you mean the 'myhostname' in main.cf is the host that postfix appends to local mails? eg.: to a mail for 'root'?02:30
LinuxJonesl33txp, is there a statically linked version of opera  ?02:30
makb2s, it says usb 4-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 302:30
XplOzIonhmm that makes me wanna try my USB camera02:30
LinuxJoneschombee, I am pretty sure your is set to something else right ?02:31
l33txpI have no idea.. LoL.. I'm such a frickin n0000000b02:31
b2sXplOzIon: yeah, it only shows me sdb (which is my usb flash drive)02:31
dcravenl33txp, take your time and read the messages that your machine gives you. Sometimes (however not often maybe), the errors are meaningful.02:32
chombeenickrud - thanks, I can see the messages that were sent to my admin over the past few days, and see that no more are being sent, not yet verified if the same errors are being sent to me instead now02:32
LinuxJonesl33txp, that's ok :) Opera used to provide one that will fix that problem. Like 2 years ago I dunno if they still ahve tone check their site.02:32
krusbjornl33txp: why install Opera, btw? you norweigan? ;)02:32
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chombeeLinuxJones - actually, it's set to localhost.localdomain. Maybe the mails get bounced to root@mydomain.com02:32
LinuxJoneshave* one* :(02:32
l33txpno.. american.. I use it on my windows system.02:32
makXplOzIon, fdisk only shows my partitions, I still dont know what device the usb is02:32
l33txpI guess I'll use firefox..02:33
l33txpgrr02:33
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nickrudchombee, just out of curiosity, what programs are sending to root?02:33
LinuxJoneschombee, I don't run postfix so I am not 100% sure. Best to post to the forums if nobody can help you in irc atm. You will get a reply fairly soon ;)02:33
b2smak: hmm, I get something like that, but afterwords I get "scsi emulation for usb mass storage devices" and then "usb-storage device found at X" and then more stuff and then "Attached scsi removable disk sdb etc etc"02:33
makyo2hello, is crimsun around?02:33
b2smak maybe check lsmod to be sure you have the modules installed?  They should be automatic I thought though02:34
nickrudsomeone knows who to ask :)02:34
tahorgb2s: try hal-device-manager02:34
makb2s, the thing is, I'm not positive if its a "mass storage device" its an iriver02:34
tahorgmak02:34
chombeenickrud - cron and anacron. They may be sending or maybe the mails get bounced02:34
tahorg(sorry)02:34
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LinuxJoneschombee, >> http://www.postfix.org/faq.html#root02:35
nickrudyeah, those should be going straight to your inbox, mine do.02:35
b2smak: ah, that's a whole different thing then02:35
gordonjcpdoes anyone in here use Evolution web calendars?02:35
tahorgmak: google the model name with 'linux mass storage'02:35
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b2smak:  you might check and see if ifp-driver.sf.net is elucidating, but I don't know anything about irivers02:36
krusbjornmak: what iriver is it?02:36
maktahorg, I'll try it02:36
tahorgIIRC all the 'old' models are usb mass storage compatible02:36
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makkrusbjorn, its an ifp89902:36
krusbjornmak: is that a flash unit?02:36
makI couldnt get ifp-gnome to work with it,it says device busy02:37
makkrushbjorn, it is02:37
krusbjornmak: okies, never mind then02:37
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chombeenickrud, LinuxJones - thanks! I have to go and make dinner soon, but I'll leave it monitoring port 25 and check that mail.log, and I'll give that faq a read and make a note of all this stuff02:37
b2smak: there seem to be mulitple projects on ifp-driver.sf.net so maybe another would work better for you02:38
chombeeit looks like it has stopped doing it, though I don't understand what I did, but since I'm still able to send mail fine I'm okay02:38
krusbjornmak: try searching the misticriver forums if you didnt already02:38
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nickrudchombee, it may simply be that cron has nothing to say right now, that's all.02:39
makb2s, the reason I'm trying to mount it is because I read somewhere that the new ones can be mounted as a mass storage device. And having failed at attempts to make those work, im trying it this way02:39
TuxicityDuring Hoary installation, "Testing network repositories..." took a very long time. Is this normal? Did I misconfigure my network?02:39
b2smak: yes, one of the links on that site is a kernel module that supposedly mounts that thing as a device02:40
chombeenickrud - yeah, I know. that's why I have to leave it running. It was sending 25 messages a day with the computer only on for a couple of hours though, so I should see something. I'd just like to see for sure a message fom cron going locally now. Maybe if I inspect the mail.log more closely I can identify them Do you know how I can read the local box it delivers to?02:40
XplOzIonWow, download photos from my USB camara never been so easy!02:40
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Rimahas anyone got World of warcraft running under ubuntu off an ntfs partition?02:41
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nickrudroot mail may be going to /var/mail  and grep 'root@' /var/log/mail.log will skim the log for you.02:41
gordonjcpdoes anyone in here use Evolution web calendars?02:41
nickrud/var/mail/root :)02:41
makb2s, thanks, I'll keep looking02:42
gordonjcpok, another question then02:43
gordonjcpdoes anyone know how to completely eradicate all traces of Evolution from Ubuntu?02:43
chombeenickrud - no such file or dir?02:43
XplOzIonb2s, any idea why i cant import my photos?02:43
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XplOzIonb2s, it shows all photos in the camera, but clicking on IMPORT doesnt do anything02:43
nickrudif /var/mail/root doesn't exist, that's normal02:44
b2sXplOzIon: nope, I haven't tested my digital camera in ubuntu yet... did you check ~/.xsession-errors and/or dmesg?02:44
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b2sI only installed ubuntu on saturday, give me some time :P02:44
XplOzIonb2s, hehe, well it opened a window where u selected the camera model and then it uploaded photos from camera, but when i select some photos and click impor doesnt do anything02:45
b2snow that I'm thinking of it, has anyone gotten a palm to sync correctly under ubuntu?  /dev/pilot doesn't seem to exist, and /dev/ttyUSB1 doesn't always seem to be the palm.. maybe some hotplug setting needs work?02:46
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nickrudgordonjcp, apt-get remove --purge evolution02:46
gordonjcpnickrud: cool02:46
XplOzIonb2s, never mind, for some reason it does import the photos now02:46
gordonjcpit's a shame, but it doesn't do ical properly02:47
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b2sXplOzIon: it was just messin with you02:47
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gordonjcpnickrud: unless you can think of a way to convince it to accept a username and password for the directory with the ical file02:47
b2sXplOzIon: what software are you using btw?02:47
cjfpis acroread 7.0 in ubuntu?02:47
XplOzIonb2s, no no wait, it imported a file of 0kb02:47
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XplOzIonb2s, software? to import photos? ubuntu itself02:48
b2sXplOzIon: well, like I said, check .xsession-errors and/or dmesg to see if there is any useful error being output by something02:48
b2sand yes, what software to import photos....02:48
XplOzIonok02:48
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nickrudgordonjcp, I've never used it's ical feature.02:49
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torpidany of you guys know anything about a working open currency system?02:49
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gordonjcpnickrud: ok, got any good pointers to information about Evolution?02:49
gordonjcpthe gnome website is stunningly useless02:49
torpidpretty much02:50
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scottso apt is being all screwy on me. it won't install a couple packages (mono) because /usr/lib/mono is in the package muine, and it says to run apt-get -f install and that just gives me that error--anything else says run apt-get -f install (which doesn't help)02:50
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nickrudgordonjcp, I'd google for evolution ical password02:50
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scottanyone know how to fix apt when apt-get -f install doesn't do the trick?02:51
gordonjcpnickrud: been there, done that02:52
gordonjcpnickrud: why do you think I'm asking in here?02:52
b2s:( ubuntu keeps locking up when I access my usb flash card too often...02:52
XplOzIonb2s, honestly i dont understand what dmesg says, something about USB like this: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 302:52
XplOzIonusb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 402:52
XplOzIonusb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices02:52
helio7Anyone have a minute to peek at my ~/.xsession-errors file?  I just booted up and can't get into gnome.  I'm using fluxbox, but gnome appears broken.  Here's the error-log from .xsession-errors: http://pastebin.ca/985202:52
nickrudgordonjcp, desperation :)02:52
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b2sXplOzIon: that doesn't mean anything to me either... I assume its the usb camera being detected02:54
b2sgordonjcp: sunbird is pretty beta isn't it?  plus, does gpilot sync to it (or just evolution)?02:54
FlimFlamMangordonjcp, i too am using thunderbird and sunbird instead of evolution02:54
FlimFlamMan(on debian though, not ubuntu - i like the ubuntu live cd but i;m not quire ready to commit to it)02:55
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=== nickrud spits on thunderbirds imap
acridI use Sunbird and I'm very happy with it...but that's just me02:55
gordonjcpb2s: I use Mozilla Calendar, my gf uses Sunbird and is quite happy with it02:56
FlimFlamMannickrud, what's wrong with it?02:56
b2snickrud: heh, seemed ok to me.. even supports IDLE02:56
acridand no, I'm not his girlfriend02:56
nickrudFlimFlamMan, I keep my local store under courier-imap, and thunderbird is slow02:56
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b2snickrud: I use courier-imap too.. It does seem a bit slow on loading, but once its running things are pretty nice.02:57
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nickrudb2s, I have some large maildirs, and I'm not that patient, even if it's only once every while :)02:58
XplOzIonhow do i see xsession-errors?02:58
XplOzIondamn im a noob lol02:58
b2snickrud: so what do you use in preference?02:58
b2sXplOzIon: the file is ~/.xsession-errors02:58
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nickrudb2s, been using evolution for a long time, but have tried kmail sylpheed, balsa (ug) thunderbird (a beta, to be fair) and a few others02:59
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flodinehelio7 you on fluxbox02:59
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b2snickrud: and evolution is fast when starting up and connecting to large courier boxes?03:00
nickrudb2s, faster than any of the others03:00
nickrudsubjectively :)03:00
b2sdang it, I'm going to have to reboot :((03:00
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nickrudb2s, why03:01
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b2sman I hate rebooting linux.03:01
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b2snickrud: things are starting to lock up from accessing my usb flash card03:01
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b2spdflush is "uninterruptible", as are usb-storage and scsi_eh_303:02
b2sthat's all kernel stuff, so I don't think I can kill it03:02
helio7Any idea why my .ICEauthority file would be unreadable by gdm leading to a failure in starting gnome?03:02
flodineanyone running fluxbox please help03:03
XplOzIonb2s, in that file doesnt seem to post any usb error03:03
nickrudb2s, bye bye ;)03:03
b2sXplOzIon: if you've got no errors, its going to be tough to debug ;)03:03
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XplOzIonb2s, i posted the file check it http://pastebin.ca/985503:04
FlimFlamMannickrud, i use courier-imap too at work and at home - haven't really noticed any serious speed problems.  what are you comparing to?03:04
FlimFlamMannickrud, correction - i switched to cyrus at home, sorry03:05
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XplOzIonb2s, o yeah theres an sub error03:05
XplOzIonb2s, didnt notice =/03:05
nickrudFlimFlamMan, to be fair, it was a beta. I haven't tried again in a while, so I'll do it again.03:05
chillywillyis hoary going to get the new firefox?03:06
qwehoary's already out03:06
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krusbjornhelio7: trie this? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1583.html03:07
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krusbjorntried*03:07
helio7reading now krusbjorn, thanks03:07
qweI'm trying to mount a windows share and it fails with this in dmesg: "missing data argument"03:07
qweerrr "smb_fill_super: missing data argument"03:07
qweanybody know what's wrong?03:08
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krusbjornhelio7: np :)03:08
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chillywillyshould I be brave and upgrade to breezy?03:09
thr1cechillywilly, i'm running it03:09
chillywillyI thought security fixes were provided for a release qwe03:09
chillywillyff 1.0.3 is a security fix isn't it?03:10
AtholasYeah it is. I'm waiting for it too.03:10
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AtholasSeems like FF 1.0.3 is not in breezy either.03:11
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chillywillyblah03:11
Amaranth"I anticipate that Ubuntu will become the mainstream Linux distribution globally."03:11
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Amaranthhttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/825303:11
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AtholasSeems like Fedora is real up to date with things..03:11
chillywillyI anticipate that no one can tell the future03:11
chillywillywhy is ubuntu-desktop being removed on a dist-upgrade?03:13
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chillywillydust-upgrade to breezy03:13
chillywillydist even ;P03:13
chillywillythat's a funny typo03:13
rymanhello03:13
rymanI tried to run gdesklet but somehow it frozen or nothing showed up03:14
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punkrockguy318How well does xfce4 integrate with ubuntu?03:14
Xeon3Dryman, go into a terminal and type sudo killall gdesklets03:14
Xeon3Dor gdesklet03:15
krusbjornpunkrockguy318: im using it, and it works perfectly fine03:15
GammaRayhmmm what is discover? will this conflict w/ gnome-volume-manager?03:15
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krusbjorngood luck chillywilly :D03:15
punkrockguy318krischan, alright... does it still have my menus?03:15
rymanXeon3D|  I did that03:15
krusbjornpunkrockguy318: your menus?03:16
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punkrockguy318krusbjorn, mhmm the ubuntu app menus03:16
krusbjornpunkrockguy318: yeah, they are there...i cant seem to be able to remove them either ;)03:16
chillywillyUbuntu is ona  6 month release cycyle, correct?03:16
WhiteRabbitso far yes03:17
krusbjornthe gnome app menus are integrated in the basic "right click menu"03:17
nickrudchillywilly, you should make another partition, and run breezy there. When it breaks, you can come back and tell us about it:)03:17
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krusbjornlol03:17
chillywillynickrud: I have ALWAYS ran debian sid...so what makes you think I can't fix a broken Ubuntu?03:17
punkrockguy318thanks03:17
krusbjornpunkrockguy318: welcome03:18
nickrudchillywilly, I ran the same sid install from 2001 to a couple months ago, but breezy will not be sid :)03:18
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nickrudchillywilly, And I will stand by that until beagle makes it into breezy, when it will be perfect.03:19
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chillywillybeagle?03:19
chillywillynot sure wtf that is03:20
netsharchello all, anyone ever have a problem with KHTML hanging the whole system?03:20
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nickruda mono thing, it's an app that will index mail, web pages, etc, etc, etc.03:20
chillywillybleh03:20
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nickrudremember medusa :)03:20
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chillywillyyes03:20
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nickrudsupposed to be that on steriods03:21
chillywillyyea, but why C#?03:21
chillywillydamn them ;)03:21
helio7krusbjorn: you rock; thanks for the link before, I had tried chmodding .ICEauthority but had overlooked chown;03:21
chillywillyOOo 2 beta is still out of date03:21
nickrudI quit program a while ago, so I don't care anymore ;P03:21
chillywillythey were upt o 1.9.93 last I looked03:21
chillywillys/o/to/03:22
krusbjornhelio7: google is your friend ;) i just googled "ICEauthority" and that lpage was first hit ;)03:22
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StyXmanI have a game that depends on libXxf86vm.so.1, but there's only the .la file...03:23
StyXmanI tried to compile xfree, but I discover that my knowledge does not allow me to modify the build process to build a .so version03:23
StyXmanso, are there any other options?03:23
krusbjornhelio7: well, glad it worked out for you :)03:23
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StyXmans/xfree/xorg/03:24
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ritalinhello03:24
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krusbjornhola03:24
ritalinhow do i access unstable .debs?03:24
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TuxicityWhiteRabbit: thanks! Enabling "USB keyboard Support" in BIOS fixed my problem. I knew Ubuntu wasnt the culprit;)03:24
helio7there's always a slight emotional element for me when I can't load my WM that blocks clear thought unlike dealing with other less disabling issues...03:24
StyXmanritalin: s/whoary/unstable/ in the debline?03:24
P2OGis there a way to make it so that in Ubuntu all my windows have a tendency to lock on to each other, I love that feature in the current distro I have.03:25
ritalinStyXman, ty03:25
WhiteRabbitTuxicity, heh you hate when you first see it then once its all working you bless finding it ;)~03:25
ritalinalot of breakage occur?03:25
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TuxicityWhiteRabbit: Alelluyah!03:25
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jalrnchello, is anyone experiencing problems with the ubuntu wiki? I'm not able to save pages after editing03:26
erikhey, I just switched over to breezy and upon reboot with a new kernel my keyboard has been acting funny (thinking I'm not letting go of modifier keys, etc).  Anyone else?03:26
nickrudStyXman, it's in libxxf86vm103:26
StyXmannickrud: hmmm03:26
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StyXmanthen I should not ask that here :-|03:26
] BreliC[anyone here using an iRiver iFP with ubuntu?03:26
ritalinI just want packages not a unstable system, should i just uncomment universe?03:26
StyXmansorry, I have debian03:26
StyXmantahnks anyway03:27
nickrudno, i mean apt-get install it03:27
] BreliC[i installed the ifp-line commandline proggy, but it keeps saying the device is busy...03:27
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kelbini've download this version of ubuntu - (ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso - 06-Apr-2005 22:31 587M) but i cant seem to select proxy for apt-get update during installation. i tried to search the forums but they were saying to download a array version 7 or something? my setup is stuck at the "Testing network repository" ... any ideas on which version or from where i should download ubuntu from?03:27
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Zryderhello everyone. anyone ever use cedega?03:28
nickrudStyXman,  /usr/X11R6/lib/libXxf86vm.so.1, no?03:28
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] BreliC[Zryder, yup03:28
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Tuxicityritalin: universe will give you access to all of Debian in theory yes03:28
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Zryder] brelic[ i just installed ubuntu, and i am wondering how to run games and such, any words of wisdom?03:29
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torpidwhat kinds of games?03:30
torpidyou can choose tons of games in the apps menu.03:30
] BreliC[Zryder, well, i haven't run any games on ubuntu, so i can't comment on that.  what i can say is that with cedega under SuSE 9.2 when I was using it, I got Knights of the old Republic and Sims working... couldn't get SimCity 4 to work03:30
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torpidhow the hell could you play games like that in linux?03:30
krusbjorntorpid: they are talking about cedega :P03:30
] BreliC[torpid, with cedega03:30
torpidi'd love to have an iriver product though, loaded with vorbis music, and working in linux.03:31
torpidwhat is that?03:31
] BreliC[torpid, well, i can't get the iriver to work with linux thus far... and cedega, check it out at www.transgaming.com03:31
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krusbjornget an iriver HD unit and you are good to go ;)03:32
PacoBCNJust published a small HOWTO about streamtuner=>streamripper, just in case someone is interested-03:32
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Zrydercool. I am attempting to get Matrix Online..03:32
] BreliC[krusbjorn, heh, well, don't want a HD unit03:32
] BreliC[guess i'll have to keep trying to make it work03:32
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GammaRayhmm during my upgrade one of the curses menus mentioned xfree86.. that makes me nervous03:32
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chptsHi I'm about to install ubuntu and I have a few questions concerning my WinXP partition and grub03:33
acridZryder: I'm a recent convert from Debian so I can't really speak to Ubuntu, but Transgaming offers .debs that I bet would work fine.03:33
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krusbjorn] BreliC[: have you searched the misticriver forums? http://www.misticriver.net03:33
Xappechpts: ask away :)03:33
] BreliC[krusbjorn, no, not yet... i've looked at the open iriver driver.... hang on, i'll check it out03:33
tweeki think i found a bug in hoary >.<03:33
torpidi can't imagine why you'd have any proble with your iriver in linux.03:33
goldfishchpts: ask away03:33
chptsI currently have a RH9 partition on /dev/hdb3, XP partition in /dev/hdb1, a boot partition in /hdb2 and swap in hdb503:34
torpidit should be a generic usb mass storage device.03:34
thr1cemmm...gnome 2.6.10.103:34
chavoZryder, the transgaming debs work perfectly in ubuntu, just got done playing some half life 2.03:34
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chptsSo I need to manually configure the partitons to install ubuntu, right?03:34
chpts(consider the fact that I'm a total newbie)03:35
krusbjornchpts: you can let the installer make them automatically if you wish03:35
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] BreliC[torpid, because it doesn't mount as a mass storage device03:35
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Xappeare you going to remove RH9?03:35
chptsbut that would keep my winXP partition untouched?03:35
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netsharchello all, anyone ever have a problem with KHTML causing X to hang? whenever I try to use anything that needs KHTML, X hangs..03:35
chptsyes, I'm removing RH903:35
GUISlaveYou don't need to manually configure partitions03:35
torpidcedega sounds unbelievable03:35
krusbjornchpts: pi dunno, probably not. but there is a good guide how to do that...lemme try to find it03:36
torpidand you are using 2.6 kernel?03:36
GUISlaveJust wipe the whole drive out for ubuntu.  :)03:36
GammaRaychpts: the installer has a nice interface for manually partitioning03:36
Xappechpts: then you can tell the ubuntu install which partitions to use for ubuntu by setting their mountpoints03:36
torpidis it just me, or does the manifesto at openmoney.org sound like a bunch of hippie gibberish?03:36
chptsGammaRay: ok03:36
Xappechpts: and yes, it'll leave your xp partition alone if you don't tell it to do otherwise03:37
krusbjornchpts: you can also look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?threadid=1635303:37
chptsGammaRay: so basically what I have to do Is reformat hdb3, name it / make it bootable03:37
chptsok03:37
chptsand what about grub?03:37
irCatAnyone familiar with cross networking problems with OS X?03:37
Xappechpts: the partition manager in the ubuntu installation program is the best i've used ever03:37
chptsI believe grub is currently installed on my /boot partition03:38
chillywillythe shortcut key to switch workspaces doesn't seem to work anymore03:38
nickrudchpts, since you will only have ubuntu and xp, it'll make a working grub for you, no problem03:38
chillywillyctrl-alt-left arrow03:38
chillywillyor SOME arrow03:38
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chptsnickrud: do I have to install grub in the mbr?03:38
chillywilly{left,right,up,down} arrow03:38
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EmergeTWwhat is the initial root password?03:39
chillywillyctrl-alt-{left,right,up,down} arrow03:39
irCatSamba isn't working in either directions.03:39
EmergeTWfrom a default ubuntu install?03:39
blahrusEmergeTW: root is dissabled03:39
Xeon3Devery key on my keyboard works as expected minus one... the single "" ...03:39
Xeon3Dhow can I fix it?03:39
nickrudchpts, it'll ask you if you want to, so just say yes :)03:39
EmergeTWblahrus: I tried to enable it and it said the sudo password was wrong03:39
Xeon3Dthe accents work right.. and any other key.03:39
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krusbjornEmergeTW: the sudo password is your user password...03:39
chptsok03:39
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chptsso basically I can now delete the /boot partition?03:40
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irCatAnyone?03:40
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nickrudchpts, you can use manual partitioner to tell ubuntu to use it if you want.03:40
xtatha03:40
tweekircat just periodically repeat your question till you're amswered03:40
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nickrudsame partition layout you use under redhat03:41
] BreliC[dammit.. gotta reboot in windows to update the iRiver firmware03:41
chptsnickrud: freespace?03:41
] BreliC[arrrgh03:41
nickrudchpts, how big is /boot03:41
chptsabout 100 megs03:41
timcapuleterror on install:: "serial8250: too much work for irq10" ???03:41
irCatAnyone familiar with cross networking problems with OS X?03:41
timcapuletany suggestions?03:42
blahrustry a sudo -s03:42
nickrudyou're right, you don't really need it (my lilo instincts croping up again)\03:42
blahrusEmergeTW: try a sudo -s03:42
chptsnickrud: just to wrap it up: 1. format / as ext3, bootable, mount point in /03:42
nickrudyup03:43
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chptsnickrud: 2. format /boot, ext3, bootable, mountpoint /?03:43
CheeseBalldoes anyone know how i can re-compile the ubuntu kernel03:43
CheeseBalli need to get soundblaster live support03:43
nickrudchpts, if you want to keep /boot, mount it at /boot03:43
HrdwrBoBCheeseBall: it already has sblive supprot03:43
HrdwrBoBx2 infact03:43
chillywillya lot of keyboard shortcuts seem to be broken now03:43
HrdwrBoBboth alsa and oss03:43
chillywillyweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee03:44
CheeseBallfor some reason mine does not work03:44
chptsok03:44
CheeseBallany ideas03:44
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chptsnickrud: 3. leave ntfs untouched03:44
acridspeaking of alsa...how do I set up my sound card? Alsaconf seems to be missing03:44
CheeseBalli had on board running and then i disabled it in the bios03:44
timcapulet"serial8250: too much work for irq10" error on install03:44
timcapuletsuggestions?03:44
nickrudchpts, no, put redhad there ;)03:44
CheeseBallnow....no sound03:44
chptsnickrud: sorry my dad needs xp03:45
chptsnickrud: 4. install grub on the MBR?03:45
Xappehmm, when I do a /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart the mounted partitions appear on the desktop and on the places menu. howcome this does not happen during reboot?03:45
acridtimcapulet: serial-ATA?03:45
nickrudchpts, that will happen during the install, all it takes is an enter03:45
tcwdHey guys... can anyone help me get my sound working?03:45
chptsnickrud: 5. have fun?03:45
timcapuletacrid: nope, its a hp lapotl03:45
timcapulet*laptop03:45
chptsnickrud: ok, thanks a lot. I'm off to install ubuntu03:46
tcwdI'm quite a n00b at linux, in general... and I know it has the drivers... but it just... doensn't work =(03:46
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acridtimcapulet: hmmm...wish I could help :^|03:46
chptsnickrud: you've been very helpful03:46
nickrudchpts, true. I heard the fastest install takes hitting the enter key 11 times :)03:46
timcapuletacrid: thanks anyway03:46
nickrudahh, I hope lag helps me out there :)03:46
tcwdanyone?03:46
chptsnickrud: wow03:47
holycowtcwd, give it some time :)03:47
holycowsomeone will drop by who knows03:47
tcwdholycow, okay...03:47
chptsnickrud: by the way, why do redhat insists on having a /boot partition?03:48
chptsnickrud: as far as I can tell currently grub is installed on /boot03:48
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chptsnickrud: bad design?03:48
nickrudchpts, no, a lot of installs use different partitions for different parts of the filesystem03:49
raydoggusing cryptsetup, i have setup my encrypted partition, how can I do the same and burn my data to an Encrypted cd/dvd so that when it is mounted, a passphrase is required...03:49
acridchpts: I think it's a hold-over from the old days when the boot record had to be in the first 1024 cylinders of the hard drive03:49
Xappechpts: the /boot partition is a good thing. if your / gets corrupted you still can reach your winXP if you have grub installed in /boot03:49
holycowtcwd, also keep in mind sound is a fairly difficult thing to track down easily over irc, be patient, google while you wait03:49
nickrudme points to Xappe03:49
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chptsXappe: ok, I will leave it untouched03:50
nickrudchpts, using more than one partition is all about protecting yourself from one thing or another.03:50
chptsnickrud: thanks03:50
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CrazyNormanHello03:51
CrazyNormanStupid question, but how do I set key-bindings (in gnome) which launch applications other then those in the list under "Keyboard-Shortcuts"?03:52
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Xappechpts: if you do not use a separate /boot partition grub will be installed in /boot on /03:52
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=== Xappe np: Judas Priest - The Hellion/Electric Eye
krusbjornCrazyNorman: i'm not sure you can do that :P on the other hand, i dont know much, so wait until someone who does answers :P03:54
GammaRayCrazyNorman: try xbindkeys03:54
GammaRaynot gnome related but it works under all of X03:55
CrazyNormanThanks03:55
CrazyNormanI can't live without my key bindings03:55
GammaRaydoh.. I missed the obvious one03:55
CrazyNormanWhat?03:55
GammaRaymetacity can do that03:56
chillywillywoah, these fonts are now fugly03:56
CrazyNormanHow do I get metacity to do that?03:56
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GammaRaygconf-editor...03:56
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chillywillythey make me want to poke my eyes out03:56
GammaRayI'm not sure under what part but it's there... there is a search now afterall03:56
chillywillyhmm, fontconfig package is broken03:57
chillywillythat might be why03:57
chillywillygoo god they are fugly03:58
GammaRayhmm I just did a dist-upgrade and then did apt-get remove <something> without rebooting and now tons of packages are being "setup". can this cause a problem?03:58
Xappechillywilly: get us a screenshot :)03:58
nickrudchillywilly, they've already uploaded a fix, it just hasn't hit the mirrors yet.03:59
Xappeare you running breezy?03:59
chillywillyXappe: I think I am too lazy :)03:59
chillywillyyes03:59
chillywillyjust upgraded03:59
Xappeok03:59
Xappethink i'll w8 a couple of month so things get somewhat stable before I go for it04:00
Xappebefore christmas, hoary was quite a beast04:01
Dethreadhoary is still a beast04:02
Dethreada beautiful beast :)04:02
Xappewell, back then it was a beast with bad manners04:02
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Xeon3Dick04:03
krusbjorng'night04:03
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Xeon3Dhow can I make /dev/hda1 free to every user (mount/umount/write/etc...)04:03
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CrazyNormanGammaRay: Got everything work beautifully, thanks for your help04:04
thr1cebreezy is better :)04:04
Xappealready?04:04
thr1celol04:05
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Xappe;)04:05
thr1cei am...sure, why not04:05
Xeon3Dhow can I make /dev/hda1 free to every user (mount/umount/write/etc...)...?04:06
thr1ceumask it04:07
XappeXeon3D: try using user and umask04:07
thr1ceadd umask=000 to /etc/fstab04:07
Xeon3Dthr1ce: already did.. no good.04:07
AtholasIs totem broken in Hoary? I just installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu Hoary and totem just closes itself shortly after it is ran.04:08
Daehlietotem < vlc04:08
thr1ceXeon3D, you have to remount it04:08
XappeDaehlie: well, I get sound lag with vlc using esd output04:08
Xeon3Dthr1ce: already did.04:08
Xappeso I went for totem-xine with the mplayer codecs instead04:09
thr1ce/dev/hdc1       /media/windows  ntfs    ro,umask=000    1       004:09
thr1cedo something like that04:09
Xeon3D-   /dev/hda5       /setup          vfat    umask=000        0       004:09
Xeon3Dthat's how mine is.04:09
Daehliei have never had a problem with vlc04:09
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XappeXeon3D: add rw and user04:10
thr1cechange it to rw,user,umask=00004:10
Xeon3DO_O04:10
Xeon3Dok04:10
AtholasI got this error from totem: The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.04:11
Xeon3Dthr1ce: no good.04:11
thr1ceXeon3D, um...then your drive is bad or something; that should work fine04:11
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Xeon3Dnow I can mount it, but cannot write to it :P04:12
Xeon3D(and the drive is good)04:12
AtholasDoes it means that I don't have enough ram?04:12
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goldfishvlc > *04:13
Xappevlc has bad support for windows media files04:13
goldfishwindows schmindows04:13
Xappepfft04:13
goldfish:)04:13
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thr1cerw means read and write04:14
thr1ceyou're sure it's a fat32 ?04:14
GammaRayXappe: why would it have bad support if you installed win32-codecs?04:15
TuxicityHey, is it just me or is there some parts of ubuntuguide.org missing(blank)?04:15
XappeGammaRay: does it use external codecs?04:15
goldfishTuxicity: They probably are, maybe the articles are not written yet04:16
XappeGammaRay: I thought the thing with vlc was that you shouldn't need any additional codecs04:16
GammaRayXappe: I think it does though it's been a while since I used it04:16
GammaRayXappe: that's silly.. I don'04:16
GammaRayXappe: that's silly.. I don't see why vlc should be any different04:16
nickrudXeon3D, add noauto to to rw etc04:16
helix_does ubuntu comes with xfree86 and xorg as well04:16
goldfishhelix_: hoary comes with xorg04:17
goldfishwarty has xfree04:17
XappeGammaRay: iirc, the windows version does not support all .wmv either04:17
nickrud/dev/hda1       /winc           vfat    rw,user,noauto,umask=000   0    0   worked for me just now.04:17
helix_for some odd reason i cant get my resolution to change04:17
helix_is there a tool to do it04:17
goldfishhelix_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:18
goldfishwill reconfigure it all for you04:18
goldfishyou can change it in there04:18
helix_i tried that and still give me just one resolution04:18
goldfishoh04:18
goldfishmight be a driver issue04:18
hypnong0--04:19
hypnog dDFffffffffff04:19
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GammaRayXappe: vlc is supposed to be good at streaming.. maybe not needing codecs should be taken in that context. IE not needing the codec on the client04:19
goldfishCan xmms play .wma files?04:19
Xappehelix_: add your monitors horizontal and vertical refresh rates to the xorg.conf04:19
Dethreadgoldfish, I think you need a plugin04:20
XappeGammaRay: maybe. i'm not saying it's a bad player (I use it myself) but I get sound lag with the esd output, so I just switched to totem-xine04:20
goldfishcool04:20
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GUISlavetoo bad divx wasn't ported04:21
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holycowXappe, i spoke with the guys in the gnome channels and appearently esd is deprecated04:21
mikecoheh04:22
holycowappearently as it 'sucks' ... i'm paraphrasing :)04:22
mikecohahaha04:22
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GammaRayi get sound lag in anything I use esd in04:22
mikecoit's old04:22
DethreadI have no problems with esd04:22
GammaRaywell esd may suck but where does that leave arts? (-;04:22
mikecosucks too04:22
acridwhy, it blows, of course04:22
abarbacciahey, i am having troulbe getting gnome bluetooth to work properly - for some reason it can detect the phone but cannot transfer anything to it - any ideas what I'm missing04:23
holycowi don't know what server is being looked at as a replacement, the basic idea is to use gstreamer as the framework than any server you have available as a backend04:23
holycowjack seems to be getting some traction, not sure tho04:23
Xeon3DI'm going nuts04:23
Xappetoo bad that the experiment with polypaudio in Hoary did not work out04:23
Xeon3DI can mount the mountpoint and umount it as normal user.. but I can't write anything to it using a normal user.04:23
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HrdwrBoBabarbaccia: if you are using the phone manager at the same time04:23
HrdwrBoBit won't work04:23
HrdwrBoBbecause you can only have one bt connection at a time04:23
HrdwrBoBbecause bt is a horrendous pile of crap :/04:24
abarbacciaHrdwrBoB, well, i am not using phone manager - i only want to transfer an mp304:24
Xappeguess one should invest in a sound card capable of hardware mixing04:24
GUISlaveBob, you must be in the UK.  :)04:24
abarbacciaHrdwrBoB, it detects my phone in the bluetooth manager - and from what i understand you just drag and drop correct?04:24
HrdwrBoBGUISlave: no, I'm in AU04:24
GUISlaveah04:25
HrdwrBoBabarbaccia: iirc that should work04:25
HrdwrBoByou can also do it on the command line04:25
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Xappeoh hell, it's 04.30 am04:27
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Xappegoodnight04:27
TuxicityXappe: night04:27
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abarbacciaHrdwrBoB, i dont think that's the right package04:27
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holycowXappe has quit ("how nice, a nazi pope")  <-- rofl04:28
mikecoheh04:29
mikecojust another pedo04:29
holycowlol04:29
GUISlaveI'm sure the Germans appreciate that04:29
propagandhiwhat is different about mepis that it detects and sets up my PCI winmodem perfectly??04:30
GUISlaveI'm telling Dennis Knopper on you04:30
propagandhiin ubuntu it doesnt work04:30
mikecoi'm sure the sephardic and ashkenazi do as well04:30
GUISlaveI'm sure Abe Foxman would concur04:31
bzbbhow do you reconfigure a package?04:31
holycowdpkg-reconfigure package04:31
mikecowhat are we concurring about04:31
mikecothat's he's nazi or a pedo?04:31
mikecoor both04:31
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holycownuffin i think we should just get off the topic04:32
holycowhehe i'm sorry i just thought it was funny04:32
holycowdidn't mean to start anyfin04:32
mikecoheh04:32
EdganIs there a synaptics/updates applet for Gnome in Ubuntu?04:32
mikecoall is fair in love and war04:32
GUISlaveHistory isn't black and white all the time04:32
mikecono, it's often red04:33
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GUISlavePurple actually04:33
GUISlave:)04:34
mikecofuscia?04:34
GUISlavemmmm.  Yes, that is a lovely color04:34
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GUISlaveMaybe with some pretty white paisley too04:34
mikecobuahaha04:34
nickrudEgan, it's called update-notifier, it should be running04:34
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AgentQany suggestions on which player for real media files?04:36
GUISlaveOhhh boy.  57 percent on the Rise of Nations patch.  Another 20 minutes to go or so.04:37
GUISlaveI love dial up04:37
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XenguyAgentQ: AFAIK, xine with the w32codecs works04:39
abarbacciahey all - i want to downgrade a package, any idea how to do it?04:39
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davyHi, is mozilla-mail not packaged for ubuntu?04:41
davyI'm trying to make the switch, but am really fond/used-to mozilla-mail04:41
abarbacciamozilla-mail?  you mean mozilla-thunderbird04:41
bet0xmozilla-thunderbird04:41
davyis thunderbird the mail part of mozilla?04:42
abarbacciadavy, yes04:42
davyah, sorry.. didn't know that.. thanx04:42
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abarbacciacan someone help me out with downgrading a package - apparently the hoary bluetooth packages are broken but the warty ones work - how would i go about this?04:42
abarbacciadavy, that's why we're here04:43
flodineanyone running fluxbox04:43
flodineholla back04:43
flodinewow no fluxbox folks04:43
davy:).. well let me say, I'm very pleased so far.. my Dell D810 (laptop) is working well.. even suspend! (I couldn't ever get that to work with mdk).. now for wireless .. on mdk I always had to manually install ndiswrapper.. any starting point here?04:44
flodinewell blow me down04:44
flodinethats a lie04:44
flodineall runnng gnome04:44
flodineor kde04:44
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abarbacciadavy, ndiswrapper works nicely if your wireless was not detected - its very easy to set up - i am on a dell 700m04:44
flodinewow04:44
abarbacciagnome - ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde04:45
flodineso04:45
flodineso04:45
davybeing new to this distro (coming from mdk) where do I configure networking?04:45
davyyes, I'm actually on kubuntu04:45
davyklaptop worked well04:45
abarbacciahurm - i dont know in kde - check the control center though04:45
davyk04:46
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GammaRaydavy: /usr/bin/network-admin ?04:47
davywel... installed thunderbird.. not exactly what I'm used to, but it should work.. I was actually refering to whatever package gives you the mail client button in the bottom left of moz04:47
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GammaRaythat should be generic enough04:47
pantzanyone know how to permanently set umask to 0002?04:47
abarbacciaedit the fstab04:47
mmuzzydavy:k/system/networking from the gui (same as GammyRay said though)04:47
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abarbacciahow would i go about downgrading to a package included in warty from hoary?04:48
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davymmuzzy, there's no start -> system -> networking04:48
GammaRaypantz: /etc/profile04:49
davymissing pkg?04:49
blahcubedanybody have experience setting up netatalk?04:49
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GammaRaypantz: or ~/.bash_profile04:49
pantztx04:50
mmuzzydavy? sorry, i'm in kubuntu and I've got that... must be an ubunu entry, nothing 'networking'ish?04:50
nickruddavy, I think you're looking for mozilla-mailnews04:50
davyno, I'm in kubuntu too (5.04)04:50
davybut I'm looking04:50
davynickrud, that would be great, but I don't see it in kynaptic's list04:51
GammaRaywell then install gnome-system-tools.. I can't see why it would not work under kde04:51
davyyeah should04:51
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mmuzzydavy: I agree with GammaRay04:52
incsup channel04:52
nickruddavy, you need to turn on the universe repository04:52
GammaRaywhoohoo even the kernel nfs server is still working after the upgrade04:52
GammaRaynice04:52
nickrudthen it will show in kynaptic04:52
davyok lemme try that04:53
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davynuckrud, uh, sry, where do I do that04:53
discordanyone know if its allright to use resier fs for / for hoary install?04:53
nickruddavy, I synaptic not kynaptic, but there will be something under settings about sources.list or repositories04:54
incfusermount: old style mounting not supported04:54
inccrap04:54
inclol04:54
incanyone use gmailfs?04:54
abarbacciainc, it doesnt work apparently04:55
mmuzzykynaptic was so dumbed down I couldn't take it... still using synaptic under kubuntu.04:55
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incoh yeah? that sux04:56
nickrudyeah, I hadn't looked at synaptic for a while, and it's pretty good now. I don't really miss aptitude04:56
inci try mounting and get old style mounting not supported04:56
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davywow.. synaptic is MUCH better04:57
davy(had to install)04:57
abarbacciainc, yea, for some reason it doesn't work - i think its with the new python or fuse libs - they are fixing it soon hopefully - a bug report has already been submitted04:57
incsynaptic is pretty cool.. i still like apt-get04:57
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abarbacciasynaptic IS apt-get04:57
inci know this04:58
scottI installed the package xfont-artwiz but they don't show up in the list of fonts. anyone have an idea what I have to do to load them?04:58
mmuzzydavy: yeah, not sure what they were going for in kynaptic, it was an exercise in frustration for me ;)04:58
nickrudabarbaccia, no, they just both use libapt04:58
abarbacciasame shit04:58
inclol04:58
abarbaccialol04:58
flodinelol04:58
abarbacciano mods = i can curse :)04:58
flodinei love ubuntuuuuuuu04:58
incmust keep the gui at a minimum04:59
abarbacciawoah - someone needs to chill that guy out04:59
pantzscott, fc-cache04:59
incabarbaccia, i went through all the whoops for this gmailfs and it's got bugs..argh04:59
flodinewhat is the default sound for ubuntu05:00
abarbacciainc, you can join the club - i just went down that road05:00
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scottpantz: that doesn't do the trick05:00
incwell nice to know there is a dpgk for it though05:01
scottpantz, these are .pcf.gz files, is that alright?05:01
scottinc, yeah, gmailfs doesn't work05:01
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davyyay! there's good-ole mozilla-mail05:01
incscott, so i come to find out05:01
scottit works though in debian05:02
incworks on my windwos box though05:02
scottso maybe you could just install the deb out of unstable05:02
abarbacciaguys!  how the hell do i downgrade a package - i just switched from an RPM based distro and i dont know how to go about it - someone help me out here05:02
scottand update the python package that's old05:02
scottabarbaccia: apt-get install packagename05:02
abarbacciascott, i'm trying to downgrade a package05:02
scottoh, sorry, misread :)05:03
abarbaccialike the bluetooth from hoary doesnt work right, so im going to try using warty05:03
incwell i got the deb from debian and it installed python and stuff05:03
incohary been good so far... had to upgrade the kernel to get it run my wifi card05:03
abarbacciainc, does it work after that upgrade? and did you get the unstable pkg?05:03
abarbacciaoh, i have no problems with hoary, just that the bluetooth doesn't work05:04
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incabarbaccia, does what work?05:04
abarbacciagmailfs after you upgraded python05:04
incnope05:04
dsasababaccia: I believe you need to do something with apt-pinning, I'd check around before going on a huge wild goose chase though :)05:05
nickrudabarbaccia, you can use apt-get, but you have to specify the version you want05:05
incwell i'm off to my new task.. getting sound in flash05:05
scottanyone know how add a keyshortcut in gnome to run a command? (totem --next)05:06
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abarbaccianickrud, what if i dont know the version number?05:06
mmuzzyabarbaccia: well, using kubuntu. but i used bluetooth to send a file to my ipaq tonight. bluetooth seems easier with kde tools.05:06
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abarbacciayea, that's the rumor - but i'm a gnome guy, so i05:07
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abarbacciam off on this route05:07
mmuzzynot that i'm a gui person, but it does make life easier sometimes not to deal with /etc/bluetooth type stuff. ;)05:07
davyok, I installed gnome system tools..  I have system -> networking now, I don't see my wireless card in there, does that mean it didn't find it?05:08
davyor is there a detection step I need to do?05:08
mmuzzyabarbaccia: i'm not one for holy wars stuff... just playing with kubuntu, i usually run gnome myself.05:08
KillerSmurfsorry to ask but I'm new... I've just started using linux(mepis flavored) and am wondering what is the difference between mepis and ubantu?05:08
abarbacciadavy,  you probably need to use ndiswrapper05:08
nickrudyou can find what'ts avaiable at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/05:09
davyok then, I've done that plenty of times before05:09
abarbacciadavy, search on google for your nic card or laptop and see what you get05:09
abarbacciaalright then, go for it05:09
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davyk05:09
KillerSmurfanyone?05:11
abarbaccianickrud, that is only the current packages, i need to downgrade...05:11
JanCKillerSmurf : mepis is KDE by default, Ubuntu is GNOME05:11
abarbacciaKillerSmurf, it's a different distro - different management tools, different included software, packages, how its setup - don't know specifics - check out www.distrowatch.com to find out more about distros05:12
KillerSmurfcool... Like I said I'm new to linux....  I have no Idea about gnome ... or KDE either...05:13
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nickrudabarbaccia, the warty ones are there too, I think. I miss archive.debian.org :)05:13
abarbacciai hear ya on that05:13
JanCKDE & GNOME are different desktop environments05:13
KillerSmurfyes the GUI05:13
borgistaA quick question: How well does let's say Linksys WiFi stuff work in Hoary? Anyone have any experiences to share? PM me please.05:14
KillerSmurfbut I'm just woundering if there bis something like synaptic on ubantu05:14
JanCyes05:14
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JanCsynaptic + an automatic update checker05:14
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dcravenborgista, I think the Linksys wifis will work with ndiswrapper. Check ndiswrapper.sf.net to be sure.05:14
nickrudIf i hadn't put this on a small partition, I'd tell apt to not delete old packages :)05:15
borgistathank you dcraven05:15
dcravenborgista, np.05:15
KillerSmurfcool Jan... the install cd is coming down...05:15
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dcravenIs Mepis Debian based as well?05:15
borgistayes dcraven05:15
KillerSmurfyes dc05:15
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holycowdc, most distros are :)05:16
Quest-MasterHow do I get to my floppy disk?05:16
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borgistaholycow: they are?05:16
KillerSmurfI was told most of the good distro's are mepis based.  Is this true?05:16
holycowall the knoppix, gnoppix ... etc05:16
borgistai always thought otherwise.05:16
KillerSmurfdebian05:16
holycowlinspire, xandros05:16
dcravenQuest-Master, do you have a /media/floppy or something like that?05:16
Quest-MasterHmm05:16
holycowetc.05:16
KillerSmurfnot mepis05:17
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abarbacciafthis - i'm going into windows to use bluetooth - god dammit - i was on a 6month absense05:17
GUISlavelinspire should be linux.05:17
dcravenQuest-Master, if you do, then you can mount that.05:17
GUISlaveshouldn't*05:17
holycowmepis is debian based KillerSmurf05:17
borgistaLinspire has it's place. But this isn't the place for flaming.05:17
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GUISlaveSure it is.05:17
Quest-Masterdcraven: It doesn't automagically mount? Project Utopia?05:17
dcravenKillerSmurf, that's a matter of opinion. You are asking a biased crowd.05:17
GUISlaveLinspire has it's place...in the trash bin.05:17
GUISlave:)05:18
JanCQuest-Master : only if you floppy drive supports it (which most don't05:18
dcravenQuest-Master, I dunno. No floppy here. Project No Floppy. ;P05:18
pantzscott, sorry i don't know about those types of files - i would trying gunzipping them though to see if that helps05:18
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JanCthe floppy drive doesn't tell the OS there is a new floppy05:18
pantzscott, maybe they aren't seen coz they are in a .gz archive05:18
Quest-MasterAnyone know how to mount it then?05:18
holycowplaces, computer05:18
holycowright click on floppy, mount05:18
nickrudhttp://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=independence is pretty interesting, who's bases on who05:19
KillerSmurfthanks dcraven ;>05:19
EmergeTWhas anyone setup a video capture card in Ubuntu?05:19
JanCQuest-Master : there is a panel applet which is very handy for this05:19
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dcravenKillerSmurf, I think Debian is certainly a strong general choice.05:19
holycowbtw, that list is wrong05:20
holycowknoppix belongs in the debian column05:20
holycowall of that is debian based05:20
KillerSmurffor a noob like me???? <dccraven>05:20
dcravenKillerSmurf, especially for a 'noob' like you :)05:20
KillerSmurflol05:20
KillerSmurfwhat is the main diffence between KDE and Gnome>05:21
dcravenKillerSmurf, I have no doubt that you'll like Ubuntu very much.05:21
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nickrudwell, they also split out mandrake from redhat. I guess there's a reason.05:21
JanCKillerSmurf : taste & distaste05:21
borgistaI agree with JanC05:21
JanCboth say the other is the distaste05:21
KillerSmurfdistaste?05:21
KillerSmurflol05:22
holycowalso morphix is debian based05:22
KillerSmurfrofl05:22
holycowthat belongs in the debian column05:22
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dcravenKillerSmurf, they are different in alot of ways. You should probably Google for that. You'll have years worth of debates to read up on... hehe05:22
holycowso about 3/4rs are debian based according to that list05:22
nicedreamsHow do you enable swat in Ubuntu?  I installed it and I'm trying to access it from my other machine next to it.05:22
holycownicedreams, you can't05:22
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holycowswap is non accessible to user05:22
RibbitFroggreetings friends05:22
JanCknoppix is no more debian based than mandrake is redhat based  :)05:22
KillerSmurfk my install cd is doen.... is there an irc client installed by default?05:22
nicedreamsholycow: what do you mean?05:23
SkyNetyes KillerSmurf05:23
KillerSmurfgreat... see you all after the install05:23
JanCKillerSmurf : there are at least 2 : XChat & irssi05:23
JanC(and maybe gaim can do IRC too?)05:24
KillerSmurfbbl05:24
dcravenKillerSmurf, good luck.05:24
nicedreamsHow do you enable swat in Ubuntu?  I installed it and I'm trying to access it from my other machine next to it.05:24
dcravenI think he's ignoring you holycow.05:25
holycowno i'm googling05:25
holycownicedreams, you keep on saying swat, you mean swap right?05:26
dcravenahhh05:26
nicedreamsSWAT05:26
nicedreamssamba swat05:26
nomasteryodaswat for configuring smb from browser05:26
holycowoh samba thing!05:26
holycowah!05:26
nicedreamsport 901 is setup, but I can't access it05:26
holycowhaha05:26
dcravenheh05:26
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holycowsorry :)05:26
nicedreamslol05:26
nicedreamsnp05:26
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holycowi thought you were asking some silly question about accessing your swap partition05:26
holycowanywhoo ....05:27
holycow:)05:27
nicedreamsnp05:27
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dcravenThat's where all my mp3s are.05:27
nicedreamsany idea's though?05:27
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holycoware you typing in https://ipaddress:1000?05:27
nicedreamshttp://192.168.2.15:90105:27
dcravennicedreams, no samba here.. Not much help  :(05:27
nicedreamshttps doesn't work either05:27
holycowoh swat is separate05:27
nicedreamsI can make it work in debian but not ubuntu05:28
nicedreams:(05:28
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nomasteryodanicedreams, permissons05:28
nicedreamspermissons to what?05:28
nicedreamsI can use webmin from my other machine, but not swat05:28
nomasteryodadoes swat work on the system you have it on?05:28
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nicedreamsdunno...i don't have x installed on it05:29
nicedreamsit's a vpn/file server05:29
mitch_how can i get sound to work with my avi's? i downloaded all the w32 and gstreamer codecs05:29
nicedreamsand I want swat for the customer05:29
nomasteryodalol05:29
nomasteryodawell, you could try lynx05:29
nicedreamslol05:29
nomasteryoda=)05:29
nicedreamsi'll try to see if it work locally05:29
nomasteryodak05:29
holycowit sounds maybe like you haveto modify iptables?05:29
holycowi havent looked into iptables on ubuntu and what rules are setup05:30
nomasteryodaubuntu does not have a firewall by default05:30
holycowi thought iptables were configged?05:30
holycowk05:30
nicedreamsI get connection refussed using links from the machine running it also05:30
nicedreamsarg05:30
nomasteryodanicedreams, it is permissions05:31
nomasteryodajust sec05:31
nomasteryodahad same issue on suse05:31
nicedreamsnomasteryoda: what permissions should I check?05:31
nomasteryodasec.....05:31
mitch_how can i get sound to work with my avi's? i downloaded all the w32 and gstreamer codecs05:32
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QMarioIs everyone asleep?05:34
dcravennicedreams, I'm seeing that Swat assumes root priveleges, so to make it work you need to enable the root account (sudo passwd root) and give it a root password.05:34
nomasteryodano,... googling05:34
nomasteryodano05:34
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dcravennicedreams, that was from the forum... So I dunno.05:35
nomasteryodayou can add the user you are using05:35
nomasteryodathat should work05:35
nomasteryodalooking05:35
nicedreamsI have root enabled....I hate sudu05:35
dcravennicedreams, I honestly don't even know what Swat is.05:35
nicedreamsdcraven: swat is a web based gui for samba05:35
nomasteryodawww.samba.org05:35
QMarioCan anyone one of you give me the names of the users in #PERL?05:35
dcravennicedreams, Ahh.. I see.05:35
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nicedreamsi'm on samba.org, but they don't make swat.  I can make it work in debian just fine, but I can't in ubuntu05:35
grumpysmurfwhy hate something that forces you to practice good behaviour05:35
nicedreamsI don't know why, but I've followed all the how to's05:36
dcravenQMario, /who #perl?05:36
nomasteryodanicedreams, let me check my other machine's history05:36
GammaRaythe mouse pointer flickers when I scroll? can that be stopped?05:37
dcravengrumpysmurf, maybe it's the word "forces" that he doesn't like?05:37
nicedreamsthx nomasteryoda05:37
QMariodcraven, where do I type in the command?05:37
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dcravenQMario, same place you just typed that.05:37
dcravenQMario, they ban you? heh05:37
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QMarioYes05:38
nomasteryodanicedreams, smbpasswd -a root05:38
dcravenBad QMario.05:38
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nomasteryodaas root05:38
_SMP_does the gweather applet work for anyone under hoary? mine seems to be broken05:38
QMarioIt said no such command.05:38
GammaRayhow would I change to a more plain mouse pointer?05:38
nomasteryodamaybe that will help05:38
QMarioAll I did was just stand up for Jesus.05:38
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dcravenQMario, no such command as /who?05:38
QMarioThere's no reason to ban anyone from that. :(05:38
nomasteryodaGammaRay, hoary?05:38
QMarioYes, no such command.05:38
_SMP_doesn't seem to recognize my location, I just get DEFAULT_LOCATION05:38
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nicedreamsnomasteryoda: still says connection refused to http://192.168.2.15:90105:39
dcravenQMario, I'm not sure standing up for Jesus is a relevent topic in that channel.05:39
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GammaRaynomasteryoda: yes05:39
QMarioWell, it was the right thing to do. :)05:39
QMariowho05:39
dcravenQMario, I think some folks don't think much of Jesus, so as you well know, you should be careful :)05:39
nomasteryodaGammaRay, under System/Preferences/Cursor selection05:39
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QMarioIt was well worth it though.05:40
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nomasteryodagetting banned? ok05:40
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QMarioJesus said that those who are persecuted for his sake will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. :-D05:40
dcravenQMario, okay okay...05:41
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QMarioStill, the "/who" command does not work.05:41
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dcravenQMario, interesting. Maybe the server you're on is broke.05:42
GammaRaynomasteryoda: I've found that but I all I see are variations on the default05:42
QMarioCan you type in /who for me?05:42
dcravenQMario, I'll not assist in your religious intervention of the #perl moderators.05:43
davywell, I got ndiswrapper installed and working.. I see wlan0 in 'ifconfig -a'  it also shows up in system->network and KDE's control center, but it will not find a DHCP address.. mynetwork is wide open and I'm on my other laptop here and it's on fine05:43
QMarioWhat do you mean?05:43
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nomasteryodaGammaRay, did you add the other sources like universe05:43
dcravenQMario, you got banned for a reason. Harassing the mods will not help your cause.05:44
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QMarioWell, at least I was able to print over the network from Windows to Linux. :-D05:44
nomasteryodadavy, did you select it in the box at the bottm... gateway?05:44
nomasteryodahoary that is05:44
dcravendavy, what chipset?05:44
GammaRaynomasteryoda: yea I have that05:44
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nomasteryodalet me look to05:45
davybroadcom BCM94306.. same as this laptop05:45
davy(D800 and trying to set up D810)05:45
QMarioBye everyone. :)05:45
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nicedreamsi think i found my swat problem05:45
nomasteryodaGammaRay, did you see the Artwiz05:45
nomasteryodagood05:45
nomasteryodahost issue?05:45
dcravendavy, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683&highlight=broadcom+sed05:45
nicedreamsthere is a second file that has swat disabled, but I guess only ubuntu has05:46
davyifdown wlan0 ; ifup wlan0  just shows it time out trying to do severl DHCP requests05:46
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davyk, reading05:46
GammaRayI see artwiz-cursor - Artwiz futuristic mouse cursor for X05:46
nomasteryodaGammaRay, is that installed?05:46
dcravendavy, I think the "for" loop in step 3 might be of interest.05:46
davyk05:47
GammaRaynomasteryoda: nope05:47
nomasteryodathat is the one I'm using05:47
nomasteryodapretty good, but not like kde05:47
dcravendavy, otherwise, this is what I did (same chip) --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto05:48
nomasteryodamaybe some more are out there... it does have an opton to install05:48
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GammaRaybut where is the plain old mouse pointer I'm used to?05:48
nomasteryodalol05:48
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GammaRaythe simple black w/ a white border05:49
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nomasteryodaer, i guess the boss didn't like it /05:49
nomasteryodaik05:49
GammaRaythe real problem is this fancy new theme flickers when I drag a scroll bar05:49
nomasteryodaic05:50
dcravenWhat mouse cursor does Hoary use by default?05:50
nomasteryodaa white one05:50
dcravenThe jimmac one?05:50
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dcraven(ie. rotating circle instead of hourglass?)05:51
nomasteryodai circle, yes05:51
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dcravenCool. That's a beaut.05:51
_SMP_I have a silly question: I'm tracking hoary. Since the release, I have not had to download a single updated package when running apt-get upgrade. That is normal, right?05:51
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dcraven_SMP_, sure. It's stable now.05:52
_SMP_cheers05:52
kkathmanhowdy all :)05:52
dcravenHey kkathman05:52
nomasteryodamy system told me I had one or 2 packages that needed updating05:52
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kkathmanhey there dcraven how goes it tonight (or whatever time it is where you are)05:52
nomasteryodahoary05:52
dcravenkkathman, not bad. It has slowed a bit it seems.05:53
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kkathmandcraven yes I noticed that over in #kubuntu also :)05:53
bob2nomasteryoda: there are of course security updates as needed05:53
nomasteryodathanks05:53
dcravenkkathman, I suppose it's a good thing :)05:54
kkathmandcraven well you'd think maybe it is...you dabbled with breezy yet at all?05:54
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dcravenkkathman, I'm using it on this machine.05:55
nomasteryodahey, I decided to even check out if i could enable dual-head monitors on this laptop... crt out and xinerama work05:55
nomasteryodadual booting Dell D505 hoary/suse9.205:55
nicedreamshow can I view all files in my /etc for a certian word?  I tried 'cat * |grep 901' but it doesn't work right05:56
bzbbI broke JuK05:56
bob2nicedreams: grep -r blah /etc/05:56
dcravennicedreams, grep -R word /etc05:56
kkathmandcraven so how are you finding the initial stuff with breezy...can you tell any differences?05:56
nicedreamsthx05:56
dcravenkkathman, no big noticable differences just yet. I don't recommend it though for a bit unless you know how to fix things that break.05:57
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kkathmandcraven sure that makes sense, and since its pretty new, I'd expect there wouldnt be too many changes yet05:57
bzbbI changed the outpu in juk to gstreamer and it crashed, now I get a sig 6 everytime I launch it05:57
kkathmandcraven I talked to someone yesterday that says he's got a cron job running every half hour and getting 50-75 updates per05:58
dcravenkkathman, there have been changes, just nothing "noticable" for your average user I don't think.05:58
nomasteryodasounds like he's using cvs05:58
nomasteryodalol05:58
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kkathmandcraven gotcha..I just completed by first large compile today...I downloaded and compiled gimpshop05:59
kkathmanthat was a nice little exercise :)05:59
dcravenIsn't there some type of nettiquette infraction in doing updates every 1/2 hour?05:59
dcravenkkathman, was it difficult to compile?06:00
nomasteryodadcraven, if you average out all the ms updates, they come to about that many....06:00
nomasteryodahehe06:00
GammaRaynomasteryoda: ok artwitz is working for another user but it does not show up in gcursor for either user06:00
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kkathmandcraven well, not really...yanno...you have to chase down a couple of dozen dependencies, but not difficult..i got mine to compile the first time06:00
nomasteryodathat is odd06:00
dcravennomasteryoda, that is no reason to hammer the Ubuntu servers.06:00
GammaRaynomasteryoda: is there a manual way to change? gconf key?06:01
nomasteryodadcraven, lol06:01
nomasteryodaer, i would think so06:01
GammaRayoh and artwiz does not flicker06:01
nomasteryodamost things are in linux06:01
dcravenGammaRay, is gconf-editor manual?06:01
GammaRaydcraven: sure if you will tell me which key06:01
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dcravenGammaRay, I don't know what you are talking about.06:02
kakaltowow06:02
kakaltowine is easy06:02
kkathmandcraven if you are interested, I will forward you a list of the dependencies, so you dont have to chase them down...but I cant do that till like Sunday when I get back in town :)06:02
kakaltoit makes me woozy just thinking about it :P06:02
nomasteryodaGammaRay, maybe it's a bug... mine is that way too... cursors that is06:02
dcravenkkathman, no thanks. I'm happy with Gimp.06:02
mjcanyone get mythtv running on ubuntu?06:02
nomasteryodait is referencing the ./icons folder06:02
nomasteryodaer, ~/.icons06:02
nomasteryodawhich is empty on my user06:03
nomasteryodabut in my other one06:03
mjccurious is all06:03
kkathmandcraven okie dokie ... I am miuch happier with gimp with the new stuff..since I came from Photoshop06:03
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nomasteryodakkathman, did you see the toilet paper template in Gimp?06:03
nomasteryodafor real06:03
kkathmannope havent seen that :)06:04
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nomasteryodafile,new, from template, there it is.. lol06:04
kkathmanI'll check that out :)06:04
yoink23excuse me, does anyone know how to keep my monitor from turning off after a lot of inactivity?06:04
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kkathmanIve been able now to divorce myself about 95% from my windows box06:04
yoink23bc i can't get it to turn back on after that06:05
dcravennomasteryoda, haha.. That's funny.06:05
nomasteryodakkathman, congratulations/06:05
nomasteryodame too06:05
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nomasteryodathose Wilbur and Sons are too funny06:05
kkathmanI still have to use it for some productivity things that I use in my web business, such as Flash for instance06:06
yoink23just a test....does anyone hear me? you dont have to answer my question, just aknowledge me06:06
dcravenyoink23, Screensaver under preferences.06:06
kkathmanI see ya yoink2306:06
yoink23k, thanks06:06
dcravenyoink23, advanced tab.06:06
yoink23the grey in xchat made me think i wasnt being seen06:06
yoink23k, thanks dcraven06:06
dcravenyoink23, anytime.06:07
kkathmandcraven I could never get screen savers to come on06:07
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GammaRayok it seem /desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/cursor_theme06:07
GammaRayis the key06:07
kkathmandcraven I set it up to activate after 30 minutes, but it always goes blank instead06:07
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GammaRayliterally06:07
kakaltois there a way of giving wine some decent themes?06:07
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dcravenkkathman, check your "Mode" in the Screensaver window.06:08
dcravenkakalto, wine theme?06:08
kakaltolike, in win programs06:08
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kkathmandcraven Wine is funny....I couldnt get the msi to work at all06:09
dcravenkkathman, what is msi?06:09
kkathmankakalto, to my knowledge there isnt a theme for wine06:09
MyNameIsChrisdcraven, Microsoft Installer Thingy06:09
kkathmandcraven msi is the microsoft installer, used by many disks to install their program06:09
kakaltokkathman, I wouldn't be surprised06:10
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dcravenkkathman, is that new with Windows XP or something? I don't remember msi.06:10
kakaltomsi is quite new.06:10
kakaltoit might be XP06:10
yoink23dcraven, my power management stuff is greyed out, is that what you were talking about?06:11
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dcravenYet another patented format no doubt...06:11
yoink23the problem isnt that it turns off, btw, its that it doesnt turn back on06:11
pr3vi0uzis  there diffrents  between live cd and installed  cause i have no sound06:12
dcravenyoink23, yeah that's what I meant. Try disabling the screen saver in the other tab.06:12
dcravenyoink23, next time (if it happens again) have a look at the Xorg log file to see if there is an issue in there.06:13
yoink23dcraven, still gray06:13
yoink23k, well it happens every time i leave the computer for an extended time06:13
yoink23where is that log?06:13
MyNameIsChrisyoink23, /var/log/X1106:14
dcravenyoink23, /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:14
MyNameIsChrisWhatever06:14
MyNameIsChrisI was close06:14
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MyNameIsChrisOh, it is etc that has the X11 directory06:14
dcravenyoink23, if you disable the screensaver, the power management will still be greyed out, but your machine might not freeze after an hour of idle either.06:15
stevenjanyone know if Hoary will upgrade to Openoffice 2 with having to remove OO 1.1 and removing the ubuntu desktop?06:15
nomasteryodaI installed it today06:15
nomasteryodausing apt...06:16
nomasteryodalooks like it did06:16
dcravenstevenj, I doubt it. You can remove that stuff without much difficulty though.06:16
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nomasteryodastevenj, oops06:16
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nomasteryoda1.1.x is still there too06:16
nomasteryodaright beside it06:16
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k-otikdoes ubuntu have the ability to create a boot disk?06:17
stevenjdcraven, looks as though when I tell it to remove games or OO 1.1 it wants to uninstall ubuntu desktop-I read updates will not work without ubuntu desktop06:17
nomasteryodaah, what a nice dependancy06:17
davyoh great, now  every time I go into admin mode in kde's control center .. I enter my password and a few seconds later it acts like whatever it was spawning died06:17
nomasteryodaisn't kde great...06:18
nomasteryodalol06:18
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dcravensteved, well I'm not an expert, but I don't think you'll have a huge difficulty with updates without ubuntu-desktop. For example, I uninstalled that package long ago.06:18
k-otikhow do i make a boot disk?06:18
pr3vi0uzmusic player cant play stream audio?06:18
nomasteryodapr3vi0uz, did you try mp3s?06:18
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kkathmankaffeine plays streaming audio tho06:19
pr3vi0uznope idont have any  would it play on ice cast?06:19
ciocanelk-otik, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RescueDiskHowto06:20
stevenjoops maybe I'm wrong....looking closer I think it just game data that uses ubuntu desktop...has anyone uninstalled OO 1.1?06:21
nickrudpr3vi0uz, I click in shoutcast.com and it plays in music player06:21
pr3vi0uz nope no luck but i always have probs under live cds but onces i do an hardinstall everything works06:21
pr3vi0uz i have no sound06:22
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dcravenstevenj, I have uninstalled OpenOffice.06:22
nickrudpr3vi0uz, have you tried system->multimedia->test?06:22
setuidAre there any Ubuntu developers here working on a PPC64 port? I'd like to speak to you about possibly helping us on an advisory council..06:23
davywifi still not working, in iwconfig on my working computer Access Point is something, in my new computer it's all zeros.. (same chipset).. would that be why it's not pulling DHCP?06:23
pr3vi0uznope06:23
davyor does it get that when it does06:23
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dcravendavy, it get's that when it does.06:23
davyI'm pretty sure that ndiswrapper is working okay becase iwconfig is pulling all sorts of info06:23
davyok06:24
dcravendavy, that thread didn't help?06:24
nomasteryodapr3vi0uz, look at this page...http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats/view?searchterm=mp3%20hoary06:24
davywell I followed the directions but the results are the same06:24
davywas using 0.12 of ndiswrapper, now using latest of 1.106:24
dcravendavy, and the Howto on the wiki?06:24
evilmegamanhow do I unmount a cd drive when a program is using it? (installing a game here)06:24
setuidevilmegaman: you can't06:25
indigirl1hey ubuntu is very pleasant distribution06:25
indigirl1congrats06:25
setuidYou can't cut the branch you're standing on06:25
davyanyes06:25
kkathmanindigirl1:  yes it is...welcome to the family :)06:25
evilmegamanwhat? Then How am I supposed to install the game. I have done it before....06:25
nomasteryodadavy, i am using ndiswrapper 1.2rc06:25
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davyit's the same problem as here  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1254.html06:25
davyI'll try taht06:26
setuidIf a process has the resource marked as in-use, you can't unmount it.06:26
dcravenevilmegaman, if you cd'd to the CD before running the game installer, then you can't.06:26
setuidBut you could try... umount /dev/hdc06:26
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GammaRayis it just me or does nautilus now close the previous window when I open a new folder?06:27
dcravendavy, hmmm.. That wiki howto worked on the same chipset you have.06:27
nomasteryodaGammaRay, yes...me too06:27
dcravenGammaRay, it's all of us.06:27
nomasteryodaodd waste of resources06:27
stevenjdcraven, did you uninstall ubuntu desktop? what does it do?06:27
AcidWolfi got a file thats in .RAR format when i try to extract it i get an error message saying unsuported Archive format06:27
GammaRaywell I really like the new behavior06:27
AcidWolfdoes Ubuntu not support it06:27
dcravenGammaRay, if you want the old behavior back, set /apps/nautilus/general/no_ubuntu_spatial to true in gconf.06:27
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dcravenstevenj, yes I did, and nothing that I'm aware of.06:28
nomasteryodaAcidWolf, look in universe06:28
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AcidWolfyes nomasteryoda but what am i supposed to be looking for06:28
nomasteryodaAcidWolf, if you are using hoary... just add06:28
GammaRaydcraven: well this isn't exacty spatial mode I'm talking about06:28
dcravenacidburn_, unrar is in the repo.06:28
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nomasteryodain the package installer synaptic06:28
AcidWolfty06:28
dcravenGammaRay, I know what you are talking about.06:28
stevenjdcraven, thanks06:28
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dcravenGammaRay, I think.06:29
nnonixtest, ignore me06:29
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AcidWolfok i unrar installed but now how do you use it cause right click and extract here still give error message06:30
dcravenGammaRay, oh, and it's /apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_spatial...06:30
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nomasteryoda'man unrar' for the directons06:30
GammaRaydcraven: gnome 2.8 used to keep the old folder open when you double left clicked on a folder.. 2.10 seems to close the old one06:30
AcidWolfty06:31
dr_willisdont click. AcidWolf  use the shell. :P06:31
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GammaRaydcraven: 2.8 would only do this if I double middle clicked06:31
dcravenGammaRay, 2.10 does the same as 2.8, unless you are using Ubuntu.06:31
k-otikis there something equivalent to hyperterminal for ubuntu?06:31
k-otikthat lets you dial into something?06:31
yoink23dcraven, thanks for the advice06:31
GammaRayso this is a ubuntu patch? a backport maybe?06:31
linuxn00bHi, i'm having troubles with enemy territory, the game starts but the games closes with no errors, it was working today06:32
dcravenGammaRay, Ubuntu patch.06:32
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AcidWolfbrb06:33
dcravenyoink23, no problem.06:34
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MyNameIsChriskkathman, Aren't they called logs?06:35
kkathmanawww dcraven :(06:35
nomasteryodakkathman, if you do it on a website, then maybe the world can benefit06:36
nomasteryoda=)06:36
dcravenkkathman, do you keep a Windows Journal?06:36
kkathmanMyNameIsChris well do you know how many logs there are in Linux06:36
kkathmandcraven no, but everytime I install a program I do a system restore point too06:36
k-otik\06:36
kkathmanso I can get back to where I was before I installed it06:36
dcravenkkathman, that's because it's Windows.06:36
kkathmanwell YAH06:36
kkathmanits smart management06:37
dcravenkkathman, whatever works.06:37
rerunsorry this is gonna be long -->06:37
dcraven:)06:37
rerunI have a huge old 21" CRT that isn't giving me more than 1024x768 in warty... I have been messing with the xorg.conf for a while now... and I'm still not there. :( I have an ATI card and I've appropriately installed the drivers for it. I've read several howtos when it comes to ATI and changing resolution... but it seems to boil down to the fact that my conf doesn't have the proper vertical / horizontal sync / refresh data for my monitor. I got06:37
rerunthat info from the manufacturer--- and when I put it into the conf -- BING! We get beautiful 1600x1200 res! But when I login, I get total wicked distortion, like craaazy diagonal blocks.06:37
rerun <-- like I said, sorry!06:37
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dcravenI gotta go to bed. G'nite all.06:38
kkathmannight :)06:38
kkathmanwhew he left quick06:38
nomasteryodarerun, is the monitor on prior to booting?06:39
rerunyes06:39
nomasteryodaok06:39
maineryoink23 ,sounds like lock-protectd screensver06:39
nomasteryodai have issue with hoary changing resolutons on my06:39
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nomasteryodamonitors... if they are off before booting.06:40
nomasteryodalol06:40
rerunoh---- wait a second!06:40
rerunI have a KVM... maybe that's contributing...?06:40
nomasteryodayup06:40
nomasteryodausb?06:40
rerunno06:40
nomasteryodabelkin?06:40
rerundlink06:40
nomasteryodaah06:40
nomasteryodamight just be it tho06:40
nomasteryodai had issues with mine06:41
nomasteryodalinksys06:41
rerunokay -- i'm in the chan on my lappy too.... re|run06:41
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rerunbrb....06:41
re|runsup06:41
re|runlet me try that06:41
nomasteryodak06:41
tux_alguien sabe como instalar quake 3 enlinux06:41
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nomasteryodatux_, no english?06:42
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nomasteryodaer, no habla english>06:42
tux_AYUDENME A INSTALAR QUAKE 3 EN LINUX POR FA06:42
nomasteryodaok, don't have to yell06:43
nomasteryodapor favor06:43
nomasteryodaok06:43
SLaPoettux needs help installing quake 3 for linux06:43
SLaPoet?06:43
tux_YES06:43
yoink23apparently its urgent06:43
SLaPoetque es problema?06:43
kkathmanright I got that :)06:43
SLaPoetlol06:43
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Jeezisis there a better wireless client for ubuntu other than kwifimanager?06:44
kkathmantux_ try wine :)06:44
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gurufflool; where is gnome menu stored ?06:44
SLaPoetkkathman, he doesn't need wine06:44
kkathmanahh ok06:44
SLaPoettux_,  un momento por favor06:44
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holycowAmaranth, my thx for the gnome menu editor once again06:45
holycowlovely work :)06:45
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SLaPoettux_ tiene quake 3 por windows?06:45
awsJeezis - I run the stock desktop and the network app works fine w/orinoco06:45
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re|runnomasteryoda: that was it.06:45
nomasteryodagood06:46
re|runbut any workaround with that?06:46
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nomasteryodaer, not that I know of06:46
SLaPoeti guess tux_ didn't have time to wait.06:46
re|rundidn't think so... hmm.06:46
nomasteryodajust have to make sure the ubuntu box boots with monitor06:46
nomasteryodaon06:46
re|runbut the weird thing is that when it gets to the login screen, it's happy with 1600x1200...06:46
re|runso X is okay with it at first...06:47
nomasteryodaseems that xorg is getting some plug-play stuff06:47
nomasteryodaslowly06:47
nomasteryodayea06:47
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re|runokey-dokey... well, it's great to have identified it so quick. thanks a ton, man.06:47
Jeezisaws: what is orinoco? i just looked on synaptic and it doesnt have it06:48
nomasteryodare|run, np man06:48
nomasteryodaglad to help06:49
nomasteryodaI just got my dual monitor mode working on this laptop06:49
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nomasteryoda... with hoary06:49
nomasteryodadecided to give it a try06:49
re|run:)06:50
Jeezishow do i get kwifimanager to switch channels? its on channel 6 and i need it to be on channel 1106:50
awsIt's the wireless PCMCIA card I have.06:50
Jeezisaws: ah, i'm using a built in mini-pci card06:51
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awsI have a Compaq nc6000 with a builtin atheros but Ubuntu won't make it pick up any AP's06:53
guruffi need some help; i have installed skype it uses qt; and looks heaps ugly, how can i change theme qt uses?06:53
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nomasteryodaaws, did you choose the ath0 as the default gateway device in the control applet?06:54
nomasteryodaaws, i have used my atheros pcmcia cards on ubuntu06:55
nnonixtest, ignore please06:55
nomasteryodatime for sleep06:57
nomasteryodanite .. or greetings.. ubuntu06:57
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awsnite07:00
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dr_willisHmm. I installed java.. java -version works .. firefox isent seeing it.. bother..07:02
Codymananyone here pretty good at C++?07:02
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discorddr_willis, you have to install the plugin07:03
discordfor firefox07:03
dr_willisdiscord,  aha..07:03
dr_willisok.. just saw it at the ubuntu guide.07:03
discordoh07:03
kakaltowhat happens if I run the directX 9 installer under wine?07:03
discordanyone know if hoary supports wirless cards on laptops07:03
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discordspecifically prism2 pcmcia  cards07:04
discordusing either the wlan-ng driver07:04
discordor the hostap driver07:04
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isaihi07:04
discord?07:04
isaihow do I watch mpegs movies?07:04
GammaRayit would be very strange if it didn't support prism207:04
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kakaltocan I mount nrg images with mount iso ?07:04
discordyeah i just did a hoary07:04
discordinstall07:04
discordi dont think its working07:04
dr_willisthere are nrg to iso converters out. I belive.07:04
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discordmaybe i have to get a package07:05
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kakaltodr_willis, are you trying to suggest that the package "nrg2iso" doesn't exist?07:06
kakalto:P07:06
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dr_williskakalto,  there is nero for linux now also. :P07:06
dr_williskakalto,  busy fighting with java at the moment. :P07:07
discordboo07:07
discordxcdroast is pretty nice07:07
kakaltonero for linux is bad at the moment, I hear07:07
kakaltoplus, I have OEM07:07
kakaltoso I can't get it07:07
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cikilinwhere is back in ubuntu?07:07
discordyeah it cost $$$07:07
kakaltoand I can just convert nrg2iso then use k3b :P07:07
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nickruddr_willis, take a look at java-package in multiverse. Makes it all a snap07:07
isaiwill mplayer work?07:08
espiemhello all07:08
kakaltome is thanking whoever made nrg2iso!07:08
espiemI need some help regarding how to install additional application in linux07:08
dr_willisnickrud,  yea - my sources didekt have all the sources mentioned in the ubuntu guide.07:08
kakaltoespiem, what program?07:08
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kakaltowhat command can I use to mount an iso?07:09
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espiemkakalto, I just download a file name bla bla with rpm extension07:09
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cikilincan anybody want to tell me where is 'back' when i browse a folder?07:10
discordanyone have a prism2 card in their laptop07:10
discord?07:10
dr_williskakalto,  its the normal mount command - but some how you use a loopback option i recall.07:10
dr_willis:P07:10
b2scikilin: the backspace key should work07:10
dr_willisactually i think in kde and gnome you can just click on them now a days. lol07:10
kakaltoespiem, either try to get a deb version of it07:10
kakaltoespiem, or "sudo apt-get install alien"07:11
b2skakalto: mount /path/to/file.iso /path/to/mount/point -o loop,ro07:11
kakaltoespiem, then use alien to change the rpm to deb07:11
espiemkalkalto, i'm a newbies. should i go to root or what?07:12
cikilinb2s: only backspace?07:12
kakaltoespiem, first, "sudo apt-get install alien", sudo = root, alien = the program07:12
kakalto(in a terminal)07:13
b2scikilin: its what I normally use07:13
kakaltothen "sudo alien /path/to/rpm/file", I think that's all07:13
cikilink07:13
nickrudcikilin, ciick the folder name in the lower left status bar07:13
nickrudsuprise!07:13
espiemkalkalto, thanks. I'll try07:14
b2snickrud: ah yes, of course, I forgot about that07:14
kakaltois iso9660 cd?07:14
cikilin?07:14
nickrudb2s, I'm a wannabe a keyboard jockey, but the mouse is still nice07:14
b2snickrud: I went through half of 1996 without a mouse because mine broke or something07:15
cikilinnickrud: in the lower left status bar?07:15
nickrudcikilin, the bottom left of the folder window07:15
b2scikilin: yes, at the bottom of the window it lists the name of the current folder.  click on that.07:15
cikilinaaaaaa07:15
cikilinthat i am doing07:16
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nickrudb2s, from about 1990 to 2000 I was computer free; burnout07:16
cikilinbut i want a quick command07:16
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b2scikilin: then press the backspace key07:16
nickrudcikilin, I don't know anything faster than backspace07:16
XplOzIonhi all07:17
cikilink07:17
cikilin10x07:17
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k-otikdoes kde have a 'device manager' equivalent?07:17
k-otikto gnome?07:17
b2shi XplOzIon.  camera working yet?07:17
nickrudcikilin, the alt up,down also work nicely07:18
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cikilinbetter backspace07:18
nicedreamshow can I have my joypad bridge both the analong stick and the digital pad so they work regardless of which one I use?07:19
b2snickrud: good one, I didn't know about that.  the only reason I know backspace is because it works in windows too07:19
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XplOzIonhi b2s, well i had to work on another computer, install windows updating, etc... so didnt try anyhting else for the camera to work07:19
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dr_willisnicedreams,  Hmm.. Mine does work that way.07:20
devazionnickrud: to what?07:20
k-otikhow cani check what com port my modem is in kubuntu?07:20
dr_willisnicedreams,  it may depend on the game and gamepad to some degree07:20
cikilinon the ide where i have install ubuntu i cant install xp07:20
cikilinwhy?07:20
k-otiki can't figure it out07:20
nickrudall the keyboard shortcuts in gtk and gnome07:20
devazionhere's one for all of you: http://members.cox.net/pfiore7/nerd.jpg07:21
nicedreamsdr_willis: I have a logitech dual action joy and only one works or the other07:21
nicedreamsanything I can do to fix that07:21
XplOzIoncikilin, did you leave a partition for win?07:21
dr_willisecho "atdt123" > /dev/XXXXX        *i forget the com port names! Argh*07:21
cikilinno07:21
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XplOzIoncikilin, well u need another partition to install windows if you want to install it on the same hdd07:22
nicedreamsdr_willis: do you know the joy commands so I can try to set them?  When I use Freevo, only the analong stick works and I want the directional pad07:22
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b2scikilin: yeah, windows is dumb and can't repartion stuff like linux can.  usually I set up xp first, then linux07:22
isaijust installed ubuntu on my laptop. I have already gotten the dvd playback to work; but still can't playback mpg files. What program do I need?07:22
cikilinXplOzIon:i got another ide and this one with ubuntu i cant use it anymore07:23
dr_willisnicedreams,  no idea. I got a cheap PS2 style gamepad from siatek - and i can set up mame to use them both..  try 'cat /dev/input/js0' - wiggle the sticks hit the buttons if they all print jibberish they are working. :P07:23
fateisajeste1cikilin: that and you will save your self alot of bootloader probs installing xp first07:23
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XplOzIoncikilin, windows wont see its linux (ext3) partition like b2s said windows its dumb07:23
dr_willisnicedreams,  and if they are all working - its configureing the program to use them right.07:24
b2sisai: search in synaptic for "mpeg" and you should get a lot of hits.  which version of totem do you have07:24
cikilini erase all the id and nothing07:24
b2s?07:24
nicedreamsdr_willis: thx07:24
nicedreamsi'll try it out07:24
b2scikilin: so you have two hard drives, and one should be windows?07:24
isaiI have totem 1.0.107:24
cikilinno07:24
cikilini have 307:24
XplOzIon=/07:24
b2sisai: ok, do you have totem-xine, totem-gstreamer, or totem-somethingelse?07:24
XplOzIontotem-goten!!07:25
cikilinthe actually ubuntu is a small one07:25
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isaigstreamer I guess. It says using gstreamer 0.8.9.07:25
XplOzIoncikilin, so you have 3 ides, and your main problem is that u cant install windows?...07:26
cikilinyes on the ide where i have u'07:26
isaiIn synaptic I found gstreamer0.8-mpeg2dec. Will that work?07:27
XplOzIonwell, first of all you need to add a partition to that ide (fat32 or whatever windows file system) so windows can see it and then install07:27
b2sisai: ok, so you probably want to add gstreamer-mpeg2dec and gstreamer-ffmpeg and that sort of thing07:27
isaiokay, installing right now.07:28
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JaGWiRE```hey07:28
mjchmm, I created a /home during setup, and it won't mount it now07:28
JaGWiRE```I have installed suse, and fedora core on my notebook which has a 2100 wireless chip (centrino, dothian I think). I've had no luck with either distrobutions, will ubuntu support this out of the box or will I have to go modding stuff?07:28
b2sisai: gstreamer-ffmpeg says it decodes 90+ formats, so that's the best bet.  I've got tons of crap installed, so I don't know which one was the key :)07:28
cikilinXplOzIon: i erase all ide data and i make partition like before and nothing07:28
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XplOzIoncikilin, what format was the partition you made?07:29
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cikilinntfs07:29
JaGWiRE```Anyone here able to answer my question?07:29
b2sgrr stupid xp erased my sdcard!07:30
guruffwhere i can get QT themes from ?07:30
XplOzIonb2s, can you help cikilin im LOST!07:30
b2sJaGWiRE```: I think intel 2xxx should work out of the box, but I don't have one.07:30
chefkoch-2002after installing the nvidia sound driver, the system beeps while starting and the volume settings are always lost. is it a known problem? workaround?07:30
kakaltowww.kde-look.org07:30
JaGWiRE```Thanks b2s.07:30
JaGWiRE```I am just weary because suse is fairly good out of the box.07:30
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guruffkakalto; ok... so kde native themes are qt righ07:31
guruff+t07:31
kakaltoya07:31
JaGWiRE```Oh, and the master boot record thing for ubuntu is the same ordeal as fedora core and suse, corerct?07:31
b2sJaGWiRE```: suse definitely doesn't.  HP includes a modification to their suse distros to get that working07:31
b2sheh, define "ordeal"07:31
dr_willisordeal? hmm was rather trivial07:31
guruffkakalto; i was using kde and i don't know :P hehe thanks07:31
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b2subuntu detected my other partitions and set up grub on the MBR without asking any crazy questions07:32
XplOzIonlol07:32
XplOzIontrue07:32
nickrudmine too, but most stanza were wrong07:32
Hoboa quickie, why is ubuntu starting up a bunch of programs, when they are not in my startup area07:32
Hoboin the preferences07:32
b2scikilin: so what problem does xp install have?  have you tried mounting the ntfs partition read-only in linux? (to make sure it is ok)07:33
Hoboroot, inkscape07:33
dr_willisHobo,  such as what programs?07:33
JaGWiRE```sorry, was afk b2s.07:33
Hobogaim07:33
Hoboxchat07:33
dr_willisit may be they are in the last session you saved.07:33
cikilinyes07:33
Hobohow do I unsave it :)07:33
JaGWiRE```Letme sum it up.. I formatted a linux partition.. got the grub loading stage eror, couldn't load back into widnows. Put back in xp cd, went to recoverey console, did FIXMBR.07:33
isaiIt's finished installing. I don't have any mpgs files on hand right now. My .mov files play but stutter...07:33
dr_willisclose them and use the save session menu item.. or make it where gnome dosent save sessions... or.....07:33
Hobook GREAT :):):)07:33
Hobothose are just fine07:33
JaGWiRE```Then my notebook.. Formatted the suse linux partition. Got the grub loading stage error, would not read any xp cd's except for ones from sony that were recovery console cd's. Put em in, still couldn't load after install. Reinstalled suse, got grub loading stage back, now have 30gb of waisted space in linux hwich I can't use.07:34
mjchmm, I created a /home during setup, and it says it's mounted but it doesn't show up in /proc/mounts or in the output of 'mount'. any ideas?07:34
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mjcit's in the fstab07:34
JaGWiRE```Later I plan to uninstall the suse, and attemtp to put a dos floppy in to boot from and do fdisk /fixmbr07:34
JaGWiRE```:)07:34
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JaGWiRE```hope ubuntu doesn't give me pain like suse and fedora core did :(.07:35
mjcJaGWiRE```, sony machine? eww07:35
nickrudJaGWiRE```, if it's just xp & ubuntu, it is painless )07:35
JaGWiRE```mjc: sony vaio notebook07:35
mjceww07:35
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JaGWiRE```nickrud.. thats untill you remove linux :P07:35
flyer_hey somone can help me? i want to change the gnome icon in the panel, put the ubuntu icon ;; but, im trying to find where i can change it, i cant find where!07:35
k-otikare you able to run an exe from a dos emulater?07:35
JaGWiRE```mjc.. what's wrong with sonys?07:35
nicedreamshow do you get dvd playback to be faster meaning hardware?  I'm using ATI with the fglrx driver07:35
JaGWiRE```4.1 pd laptop, 14.1 inch screen, 4-6 hour battery life, can't be beat.07:35
kakaltoaww07:35
mjcJaGWiRE```, sony is more music label than hardware manufacturer07:35
kakaltonrg2iso doesn't work07:35
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JaGWiRE```mjc...07:36
CitizenKaneJagWire```, nickrud is right, i had no problems at all07:36
JaGWiRE```dell is no bette.07:36
dr_willisnicedreams,  its possible that dma is not enabled for your dvd drive. Mine wasent.07:36
JaGWiRE```CitizenKane: did you remove the linux partition with the distro onit yet though?07:36
nicedreamsdr_willis: ah....that makes sense07:36
isaib2s: thanks.07:36
mjcJaGWiRE```, their acpi implementation is really broken, their memory stick stuff is disgusting, and I've found their laptops to be fragile07:36
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JaGWiRE```Memorey stick? I've had very good experiences.07:36
nickrudJaGWiRE```, doesn't xp make a boot floppy any more (I haven't installed a windows since win98)07:36
JaGWiRE```I have one in my brand new psp with 10 anime divx episodes on it now.07:36
nicedreamsdr_willis: should I just edit the /etc/hdparm.conf?07:37
mjcJaGWiRE```, doesn't work in linux last I checked07:37
flyer_hey somone can help me? i want to change the gnome icon in the panel, put the ubuntu icon ;; but, im trying to find where i can change it, i cant find where07:37
JaGWiRE```Fragile? Depends how you take care of it, anything can be fragile.07:37
CitizenKaneJagWire```, no but I don't see why it would be a problem, i had to modify the windows partition in the first palce to get linux on, and everything runs fine07:37
mjcJaGWiRE```, you can overheat your laptop to the point of hardware failure if you boot with acpi off and try to use any cpu, yet if you try to use a pure acpi implementation, it won't boot at all07:37
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JaGWiRE```CitizenKane: when you remove the linux partition just by formatitng it to ntfs or whatever, you have pain.07:37
JaGWiRE```I understand that mjc.07:37
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JaGWiRE```Thats why i don't fold @ home on my notebook ;).07:37
XplOzIonflyer_, in www.ubuntuforums.org is your answer07:37
mjcJaGWiRE```, that's poor design07:38
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flyer_ok XplOzIon i wll search there...07:38
JaGWiRE```Mjc... I don't care how fragile it is, if I can carry it around without breaking my arm, i'm happy.07:38
JaGWiRE```Frankly, one person will like the xbox, the next will like the playstation 2. One will like suse, one will like ubuntu. One will like seagate, one will like westenr digital.07:38
mjcJaGWiRE```,  I have a powerbook 12" for that ;)07:38
CitizenKaneJaGWiRE```, well ya, windows wouldn't magically get that partition space, you would delete the linux partition, and then extend the windows one07:38
JaGWiRE```It depends on your experience, you can have bad luck with anyone.07:38
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JaGWiRE```mjc: that is my next future notebook anyway :).07:38
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mjcJaGWiRE```, sony makes technically inferior hardware. it's not about preference07:39
b2sJaGWiRE```: lol, I've never broken my arm even with my 7 pound amd64 notebook... viao's are pretty looking though.07:39
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JaGWiRE```CitizenKane: I had created a linux partition but for some reason i fucked up partition table on installation and it formatted my D:\ drive in windows and put linux on there so I formatted back in windows and had hell.07:39
JaGWiRE```My laptop offered me 2 years ago what no one else offered.07:39
kkathmanwow I just read that Kopete is shut down now :(07:39
JaGWiRE```1. A good battery for office appliccations.07:39
JaGWiRE```2. A lightweight notebook.07:39
JaGWiRE```3. A notebook that supported wireless.07:40
mjcJaGWiRE```, a broken acpi implementation and a miserable bios07:40
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JaGWiRE```4. Something not too wide or big to carry around (like 17 inches)07:40
b2sJaGWiRE```: yeah, same with mine.  it was (afaik) the first amd64 laptop released.07:40
kakaltokkathman, is it actually shut down, or just in danger?07:40
kakaltolast I heard, it was only in danger07:40
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kakaltoby that whole patent thing07:40
JaGWiRE```mjc: I found it weird that my sony only read the sony recovery cd's and the burned suse dvd. It wouldn07:40
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JaGWiRE```It wouldn't read my retail xp cd from other computer (not supporting piracy at all, just an attempt for recovery console)07:40
XplOzIonflyer_, Heres a How to: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2685407:40
JaGWiRE```i found that hilarious..07:40
kkathmankakalto just read on Linux Gazette that on its web site its shut down due to patent infringement07:40
acidburn_Question: What's the best way to install a web server with python support in Ubuntu?07:40
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JaGWiRE```Is it soemthing in the bios telling it to only boot the sony recovery cd's?07:41
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bugz_where i can find new security updates for ubuntu 5.04?07:41
kakaltokkathman, so the laws in europe passed?07:41
JaGWiRE```mjc: is that possible? lol?07:41
b2scyphase: ... apache and mod_python?  or python as a CGI?07:41
mjcJaGWiRE```, yes it's possible07:41
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EdganWhat is up with cpufreq-applet in Gnome not letting me change the cpu frequency?07:41
JaGWiRE```You think thats what they did?07:41
mjcit sounds more like heat may have warped the laser, if it's an internal drive07:41
kkathmanacidburn  try xampp that gets all the programming environments including php, mysql and apache07:41
JaGWiRE```I tried 2 different xp cd's (not pirated), and no luck.07:41
JaGWiRE```Even tried a dell one.07:41
JaGWiRE```Only the sony recovery cd's and my suse 9.2 dvd.07:41
JaGWiRE```Funny :|07:41
mjcoh and I've seen some windows installs taht wouldn't boot windows CDs07:41
kkathmankakalto: apparently so07:41
cyphaseb2s: mod_python07:42
JaGWiRE```Mjc.. you know it was a real pain in the ass.07:42
kkathmanyou can go to linux journal and read about it07:42
mjcI erased the drive and mbr w/ linux and then everything was fine07:42
JaGWiRE```It's a school notebook too so.. yeah.07:42
b2scyphase: if you want mod_python, then apache is really the only way to go07:42
JaGWiRE```mjc: i'll have to google how to prepare to format your linux partition frm linux late.r07:42
JaGWiRE```Probably a much easier way then mine.07:42
cyphaseb2s: yea, i know07:42
cyphaselol07:42
JaGWiRE```Anyway, I reinstalled suse 9.2 for now.07:42
JaGWiRE```you think a bootable dos floppy would had worked with the good old "Fdisk /fixmbr"?07:42
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cyphaseb2s: but whats the easiest way to do it? just install them both? or do i need to edit some files..07:43
JackandJohnahhhhh07:43
mjcJaGWiRE```, partition magic's how I did it07:43
JaGWiRE```I'll maybe put ubuntu ontop of it, and see if I like it.. I just don't like that i can't hibernate my notebook or do a fast boot.07:43
JaGWiRE```Thats what I used too mjc.07:43
nixboxhello all07:43
mjcJaGWiRE```, but fdisk /mbr would restore the windows bootsector indeed07:43
JaGWiRE```It would fix my problem though.07:43
JaGWiRE```Letme boot to xp fine..07:43
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b2scyphase: the easiest way is to install them both.  I've never messed with mod_python though, so I don't know how much work it is to get running (hopefully more like mod_php than mod_perl)07:43
JackandJohncan anyone tell me what text-based browser I have access to from the livecd? Or even another window manager that uses tiny amounts of ram?07:43
IRCslothquick question: I have a file named like -filename and when I go to rm it rm things the -f is an option instead of part of the filename.. how do I get around that? I've tried \-filename and '-filename'07:43
JaGWiRE```All it does is replaces all of yours with default ones I think?07:43
mjcJaGWiRE```, can suspend to disk or ram as long as you don't use proprietary 3d drivers07:44
propagandhican you use cedega without a transgaming account at all07:44
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cyphaseb2s: thanx07:44
JaGWiRE```Not sure what i'm using.07:44
mjcpropagandhi, yes07:44
nickrudIRCsloth, try rm - - filename, I think that works07:44
JaGWiRE```MY notebooks got a crappy 16 mbit ati raedon mobility.07:44
JaGWiRE```Thankfully it has 1400x1050 =).07:44
b2scyphase: they are apache and libapache2-mod-python2.4 by the way (the latter is a weird name to me)07:44
mjcrm -- -file07:44
cyphaseyea, i know07:44
JaGWiRE```mjc: got msn?07:44
IRCslothok, cool, thanks07:44
mjcJaGWiRE```, ew07:44
cyphasei was just making sure there wasn't an easier/better way to do it07:44
mjcno thank you =)07:44
nixboxI have updated the apt-get package list by doing sudo apt-get update, then i did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, now i am trying to install nmap but it says that nmap doesn't exist and that some packages do refer to nmap, I have made sure that i am using the correct hoary repositories and that all the ones that should be there are there :P07:44
JaGWiRE```Anyway.07:44
nickrudhate my twitchy thumb07:44
b2scyphase: the best way in ubuntu should be apt-get or synaptic...07:45
JaGWiRE```IS there anyway possible to make a linux notebook boot as fast as windows, and have the hibernate feature so that I could use it at school with ease?07:45
JaGWiRE```:)07:45
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cyphaseyea07:45
b2sbut like I said, I haven't done it07:45
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nixboxmoreover, apt-get also says that 0 newly installed packages, 0 removed, 22 not upgraded, and 22 packages are listed, why are these 22 not upgraded?07:45
mjcJaGWiRE```, suspend to disk and ram work fine07:45
JaGWiRE```Hm.. whats cmd for that?07:45
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mjclong as you're using open source drivres07:45
CitizenKaneJaGWiRE``` , i run a notebook with xp/ubuntu and it runs fine07:45
JackandJohnanyone know a text-browser? I'm stuck @ 96MB of SD ram.. all the browsers refuse to open07:45
JaGWiRE```I find linxu boots much slower then windows, lol.07:46
propagandhimjc, how do i do it??07:46
mjcecho 3 > /proc/acpi/sleep  for suspend to disk07:46
cyphasesince im on the subject.. whats the best way to synchronize a folder on my server with one on my workstation ? rsync?07:46
mjcer, suspend to ram07:46
JaGWiRE```Oh, and does ubuntu mount my windows hd's by default?07:46
mjcsuspend to disk requires special options07:46
mjcJaGWiRE```, no, easy to edit your /etc/fstab for that though07:46
b2sJaGWiRE```: how long does it take you to boot to windows?07:46
JaGWiRE```Hm..07:46
JaGWiRE```With hibernate07:46
JaGWiRE```10 seconds07:46
JaGWiRE```?07:46
mjchibernate = suspend to disk07:46
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mjcsuspend = suspend to ram07:46
b2swell, I haven't timed linux hibernate yet...07:46
JaGWiRE```I know.. it's just storing it into ram.07:47
mjchibernate should take a minute or two07:47
JaGWiRE```Woah..07:47
mjcsuspend should take 10 seconds or so07:47
JaGWiRE```Thats al ot mjc, don't you think?07:47
JaGWiRE```I'm at school lol.07:47
b2smjc: !?07:47
mjcJaGWiRE```, no, it ahs to copy all of RAM to disk and power off.07:47
JaGWiRE```oh, k.07:47
kkathmanWOW...we might be without GAIM and Kopete both soon07:47
mjcyou're confusing hibernate and suspend07:47
b2sit only takes me 55 seconds to boot all the way from cold!07:47
mjckkathman, why gaim07:47
b2sinto linux.  and log in.07:47
JaGWiRE```So it doesn't mount windows hd's by default?07:47
ciocanelwhat's the best way to upgrade to firefox 1.0.3?07:47
mjcJaGWiRE```, no, just edit your fstab you lazy butt ;)07:47
JaGWiRE```b2s. i'm at school so yeah.. only reason why i got a shit gfx card and lightweight.07:47
JaGWiRE```fstab??07:48
mjcciocanel, synaptic07:48
JaGWiRE```what happend to the mount cmd's.07:48
JaGWiRE```lol.07:48
nickrudJaGWiRE```, it's easy to set it up during install07:48
JaGWiRE```you know the old fashioned terminal..07:48
JaGWiRE```mount -t07:48
JaGWiRE```lol..07:48
b2ssurely it doesn't really take 1-2 minutes to de-hibernate in linux...07:48
mjcJaGWiRE```, mount commands have to be done every time07:48
ciocanelmjc, thanks.07:48
mjcfstab is for mounting at boot time07:48
mjc/etc/fstab07:48
JaGWiRE```eh mjc?07:48
mjcciocanel, yep07:48
JaGWiRE```i haven't used linux in a while07:48
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JaGWiRE```nickrud: theres an option in installation? woohoo!!07:48
mjcJaGWiRE```, if you want your windows partition to be mounted at boot you put a line in /etc/fstab07:48
JackandJohnk, nm.. I'm keep banging07:48
JackandJohnI'm = I'll07:49
b2sJaGWiRE```: its easy anyway.  ubuntu will add it to fstab, you just have to tell it to actually mount it at boot.07:49
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JaGWiRE```oh, k.07:49
mjcnickrud, my machine is having problems mounting /home07:49
mjcany ideas?07:49
ciocanelmjc, what repos I need?07:49
JaGWiRE```hmm b2xs07:49
mjcciocanel, updates and security updates, the default ones07:49
nickrudwhat's the fstab line :)07:49
JaGWiRE```i just noticed i'm gonna have problems sharing my word documents and my open office doucments07:49
JaGWiRE```cause of the obvious problem.. can't write to ntfs07:49
JaGWiRE```:(07:49
mjcJaGWiRE```, vmware works for me07:50
JaGWiRE```lol.07:50
JaGWiRE```i only got 512 mb of ram07:50
kkathmanmjc - by European standards, its infringement07:50
JaGWiRE```:-(07:50
b2sJaGWiRE```: yeah, I wish ubuntu had captive-ntfs.  you might try making a small fat32 partition for shuffling data back and forth07:50
nickrudJaGWiRE```, there's utilities for reading ext3 partitions from windows07:50
JaGWiRE```b2s.. probably right07:50
mjckkathman, interesting07:50
JaGWiRE```i'de think 1gb is good enough for docs07:50
JaGWiRE```Eh?07:50
mjccaptive sucks07:50
mjcit's really fricking slow07:51
JaGWiRE```Everyone complains about speed now.07:51
b2smjc: worked for me... fast enough to share docs with at least07:51
JaGWiRE```Raptors are known as a fast hd and look how many fail.07:51
JaGWiRE```:)07:51
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XplOzIonmjc, are you sure you can upgrade firefox to 1.0.3 from synaptic?07:51
mjcXplOzIon, you will be able to07:51
b2sJaGWiRE```: how many?  I haven't lost one yet...07:51
JaGWiRE```b2s.. i've heard lots.07:52
JaGWiRE```:)07:52
Hobocopholy crap it is the internet07:52
XplOzIonmjc, i know i will, but you just said you can! =P07:52
JaGWiRE```I have heard it's cause people connect em wrong though.07:52
propagandhihey, how do i use cedega without a transgaming account07:52
JaGWiRE```I hate people who trust hd's though07:52
JaGWiRE```:)07:52
mjcXplOzIon, yep, you can, as soon as ubuntu pushes a release of it07:52
mjcpropagandhi, don't use point2play07:52
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b2sJaGWiRE```: ... how on earth do you do that?!  of course, I usually have hotswap bays anyway...07:52
propagandhiokay, but how would i use it i've never done it before07:52
mjccedega /path/to/filename at the commandline07:52
JaGWiRE```hehe b2s07:52
XplOzIonmjc, still dont get what i mean, nevermind ;)07:52
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propagandhito the cd executable??07:52
mjcXplOzIon, I do, you didn't get what I meant =)07:53
JaGWiRE```So, i think x-chat is pretty good irc client?07:53
ivokshello07:53
XplOzIonmjc, ppfff07:53
mjcJaGWiRE```, I'm using it but I prefer irssi07:53
ivoksxchat sucks :)07:53
JaGWiRE```I've heard good about irissi too.07:53
b2sJaGWiRE```: irssi! wee!07:53
JaGWiRE```But it's more of a command line one I heard?07:53
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JaGWiRE```I'm on mirc now (The plugin junky <---)07:53
b2swell, so its text... isn't what you are doing writing text?07:53
ivoks:)07:53
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JaGWiRE```b2s.. i'm not using an irc client where it goes like this07:53
Hobocopxchat07:53
mjcirssi is commandline yes07:53
mjcbut that doesn't mean it's bad07:54
Hobocopxchat for lyfe07:54
b2sJaGWiRE```: its pretty easy to write irssi scripts in perl07:54
ivoks?!?!?!07:54
JaGWiRE```./connect to irc.29439824859389.cas9249882934 000001 100000 connect at 3:0007:54
JaGWiRE```i prefer /connect irc.freenode.net07:54
JaGWiRE```:P07:54
ivokscommand line is good, people!07:54
JaGWiRE```i mean /server07:54
Hobocopoh god the xchat I cant even stop it07:54
b2sJaGWiRE```: eh?  I use "/connect freenode"07:54
mjcJaGWiRE```, same command in irssi07:54
JaGWiRE```or whatever.07:54
JaGWiRE```lol mjc07:54
Hobocopit is a tsunami of internet simplicity07:54
JaGWiRE```meh07:54
propagandhimjc: do i install the game first - if so, how07:54
JaGWiRE```i'll give em all a try07:54
seekercommand line is good as long as it's not the only option you have07:54
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seekergraphical combined with command line is better07:55
Hobocopyes agreed seeker07:55
mjcpropagandhi, run the setup with cedega /media/cdrom0/setup.exe most likely07:55
ivoksseeker thats why we have ubuntu :)07:55
Hobocopthe option being there is a happy making machine07:55
JaGWiRE```what windowsmanager are you guys running on ubuntu?07:55
Hobocop:):):)07:55
propagandhimjc: oh, okay, and then i can play it by using cedega command07:55
kkathmanfluxbox, wmaker KDE, Gnome07:55
propagandhiJaGWiRE```: KDE all the way07:55
JaGWiRE```all at once?07:55
ivoksJaGWiRE``` for now Gnome, until i set up fluxbox07:55
Hobocopgnome :)07:55
da_bon_bonchazwurth: hi07:55
JaGWiRE```i didn't know people used itaniums and opterons with ubuntu07:55
JaGWiRE```LOL07:55
chazwurthHas anyone had luck getting dual-head displays working using the nv driver for an nvidia card?07:55
kkathmanwell I can log in an out of them07:55
chazwurthda_bon_bon: Hi!07:55
kkathmannot simultaneously :)07:55
b2sJaGWiRE```: I'm still using gnome until I can show it to a friend (who installed kde) but afterwards is xfce for me07:56
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JaGWiRE```i want to try fluxbox, enlightenment, and if worst ocmes, go try xfce.07:56
JaGWiRE```last ressort is kde.07:56
Hobocopoh god feta cheese07:56
JaGWiRE```i hear xfce is fastest.07:56
b2sJaGWiRE```: xfce is my favorite07:56
kkathmanxfce is low resource, but it can mess up the Gnome install07:56
JaGWiRE```but i've seen screenshots07:56
kkathmanand its harder to get installed07:56
JaGWiRE```it loosk like crap07:56
JaGWiRE```unix type guio07:56
JaGWiRE```:P07:56
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b2skkathman: just don't go back to gnome ;)07:56
seekerwhats wrong with gnome?07:56
mjcexcuse me while I stab someone07:56
JaGWiRE```kde semes like it can be the nicest looking in the end07:56
seeker(just getting used to it)07:57
JaGWiRE```cause lots of people making themes and shit.07:57
b2sJaGWiRE```: mine actually looks just like BeOS actually :)07:57
JaGWiRE```i'm out anyway, gone to be.07:57
mjcmy fscking geforce4 just died07:57
JaGWiRE```bed*07:57
HobocopMince looks like gnome07:57
da_bon_bonchazwurth: forgot to ask u... did they give u any kind of a tracking no ?07:57
Hobocopmince07:57
Hobocopoh god I am a idiot07:57
HobocopI wont mince words07:57
ivoksbest sentence of them all:07:57
mjcoh well, time to prod amd for some pci express07:57
ivoksOk, proceeding with removing running kernel image.07:57
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chazwurthda_bon_bon: I assume the CDs haven't arrived yet :P07:58
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ivokshttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8253 - nice article about ubuntu07:58
da_bon_bonchazwurth: no. indian post aint that fast :D07:58
seekeris there anyway to have webcam conversation with msn messenger clients?07:59
kkathmanheres the article about Kopete being closed for patent infringement: http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/1012807:59
seekerI use gaim . but it doesn't support webcam07:59
ivoksseeker gnomemeeting07:59
seekerit can connect to msn?08:00
ivoksuh, msn messanger08:00
ivokssorry, didn't see that condition :)08:00
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seekersobersabre, is there anyway to do it?08:01
kkathmannight peeps!08:01
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seekerso is there any way (not sobersabre )08:01
seekerthis auto complete nick can be a pain in the $$$08:01
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Hobocophttp://www.linuxgazette.com/node/10155 LMAO08:03
ollonbrusHia! How do i configure my x-server. I've managed to completely destroy m xorg.conf, and my manual setup do not seem to work.08:03
b2sseeker: maybe ayttm can do it08:04
b2sseeker: it says "msn gnomemeeting integration"08:04
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ryan_I'm having trouble with Xorg as well, I was setting up the ATi drivers (fglrx) and I managed to lock my resolution at 800X600, even though I had 1024X768 before, and glxgears only gives me around 500fps, and it gave me 1500 on Warty08:05
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ryan_anyone have any ideas?08:06
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thr1ceman...there is a new fonts pack in breezy that looks AMAZING08:06
b2sryan_: when you run fglrxinfo does it work?08:06
seekerok, thanks. I'll try it out08:07
b2sand ps ryan_, glxgears on my system gives >1400 fps, so probably something is broken :)08:07
ryan_fglrxwindow: display: :0.0  screen: 008:07
ryan_OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org08:07
ryan_OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect08:07
ryan_OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)08:07
thr1ceyup08:07
mjcryan_, 1500 is still pathetic ;)08:07
thr1ceryan_, did you run through fglrxconfi ?08:08
thr1ceg08:08
b2smjc: for a laptop?08:08
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ryan_no08:08
thr1ce34562 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6912.400 FPS08:08
ryan_I edited my xorg.conf08:08
thr1cemy ATI results08:08
mjc12415 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2483.000 FPS08:08
mjc12336 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2467.200 FPS08:08
ryan_on Warty I had 1500, on a Radeon 9200SE08:08
thr1ceryan_, I ran through fglrxconfig, and then altered08:08
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mjcthat's a GeForce FX Go560008:08
Hobocopalmost 7000 fps08:09
Hobocopwhoaoa08:09
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thr1ceand make sure you select useexternalAGPGART? no08:09
clatonelp08:09
thr1ceHobocop, it'll go past if i'm not doing stuff08:09
clatonhelp08:09
Hobocopis this some magic thing08:09
Hobocopor am I uninformed08:09
clatonI'm new to  linix08:09
b2s48545 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9709.000 FPS08:09
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clatonallways wanted linix  now I got it08:10
dr_willisclaton,  tip #1 - ask a question we can answer. :P08:10
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thr1ceb2s, what card ?08:10
clatonnow need to load and play halo and battle field08:10
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b2sthr1ce: radeon 960008:10
thr1ceb2s, hm...I have 9700 pro; how do you have more than I do?08:11
thr1cedid you compile yourself ?08:11
Hobocop:( I get about 250008:11
b2sthr1ce: I cheated and made the window small :P08:11
Hobocopon a 5500 256mb08:11
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mjcthr1ce, faster CPU08:11
thr1celol08:11
da_bon_bonchazwurth: sorry got disconnectd. if u posted anything, plz repost :)08:11
thr1ceno08:11
mjconce graphic acceleration is enabled, it's a cpu benchmark for the most part08:11
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b2smine is a 9600 with 64MB... it is an amd64 CPU, but CPU is NOT the bottleneck here08:11
seekerhow can I remove an entry from the gnome application menu08:11
dr_willisclaton,  cedega and wine can allyou to play SOME windows games.. but dont expect it to work very well.  I advices booting to windows to play games.. and linux for work/real work. :P08:11
thr1ceI've got an athlon 2100...unless he's all 64 bit, 2000 fps is waaay too much08:11
mjcparticularly if you have the same card08:11
discordanyone know how to get a prism2 pcmcia card working under hoary?08:12
clatonthank's08:12
chazwurthda_bon_bon: Nah, I've been dealing with lag issues of my own, heh08:12
thr1cemake window small?  hm...lets see08:12
discorddoes hoary come with wireless drivers?08:12
mjcmy amd64 w/ a 9800Pro gets like 2000fps in glxgears w/ fglrx. I haven't quite figured it out yet.08:12
b2sI've got an amd64 3200+, but the radeon9600 just isn't fast enough to keep up08:12
mjcsame in 32bit mode though08:12
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aisiposHas anyone seen poor responsiveness (even mouse pointer updated slowly) under high CPU load with Hoary?08:12
mjcb2s, should be able to get a few thousand fps with that though08:13
da_bon_bonchazwurth: lol... btw, did they give u some kind of a tracking no. ?08:13
thr1ce44206 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8841.200 FPS08:13
Hobocopnope08:13
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seekerI guess it will depend on why you have a high cpu load08:13
thr1cemjc, cover the gears with the terminal for an accurate reading08:13
clatonlater08:13
mjcthr1ce, erm, no08:13
thr1cewell, not accurate08:13
mjcthat's lame08:13
chazwurthda_bon_bon: I doubt it, but I can check the receipt. If I can find it :P08:13
thr1cemjc, actually, it's what you're supposed to do08:13
seekerif you have a high cpu load for realtime application than that might explain it08:13
ollonbrusHia! How do i configure my x-server. I've managed to completely destroy m xorg.conf, and my manual setup do not seem to work.08:13
aisiposseeker: For some reason, chatzilla sometimes throws me into 100% cpu. Switched to xchat, but the problem was real.08:13
da_bon_bonchazwurth: plz doo.. that will m,ake it easier for both of us.. why the :P ??08:14
thr1cexorgconfig08:14
mjcthr1ce, it's not accurate when you do that, geforce 4 and higher will simply not render the image08:14
thr1cemjc, i've been recommended to do it with an ATI card08:14
chazwurthda_bon_bon: Because I have no idea what the heck I did with the thing08:14
chazwurthIt might be in my car somewhere...brb08:14
mjcthr1ce, probably because ATI cards are so miserably slow08:14
da_bon_bonchazwurth: ok08:14
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Hobocopooooh08:14
mjc24956 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4991.200 FPS when I do that on my geforce fx go 560008:14
b2smjc: yeah probably :)08:14
thr1cemjc, um...my 9700 pro is pretty quick08:14
da_bon_bonhey, can someone tell me what happens when - "apt-get moo" ???08:14
Hobocopnow I am getting 7500 fps08:14
mjcthr1ce, not in linux08:15
thr1cethe linux drivers suck...but ATI doesn't make "slow" cards08:15
thr1cemjc, 7000 fps isn't bad at all08:15
thr1ceand, glxgears is horribly inaccurate08:15
aisiposseeker: Is there any reason to up the priority for Xorg? On my stock Hoary, its priority is 15, nice 008:15
b2sgrr, I can't break 10000 fps08:15
mjcthr1ce, I get 5500fps with it uncovered in my GeForce4 Ti 4600 or about that with it covered on my ati08:15
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seekeraisipos, mouse curser work via interrupt, so xorg shouldn't bother it08:16
thr1cemjc, i'm not going to argue that the drivers suck; the cards do not, as you're arguing08:16
mjcthr1ce, ah, I see08:16
thr1ceboot into windows, I'll take your card on any day :)08:16
thr1cewon't even be close08:16
helio7I cannot seem to reorder my PATH variable in .bashrc to run MY script instead of the one in /usr/bin ... anyone know if Ubuntu works differently than other *nixes in this regard?  The script i've named "cal" and if I type 'which cal' it shows /home/usr/cal but if I run it it runs /usr/bin/cal (on my shell account into a RH server it works no problem...08:16
seekerit might be connected to a page fault due to a but or something, but you better ask someone who knowes more than me08:16
thr1cethen again, this is *nix08:16
conanhomehi all, i'm trying ubuntu, i install it yesterday in a k6-II and all went smoothly, but today i can get it to work in a sempron 3000+, the problem seems to be with partman no detecting partitions on my ide, but the system have created de /dev/hda* apropriate and i can mount them... so is there anyway to bypass partman and get the installation to work?08:16
bob2helio7: no, it works exactly like every over bash-using-system08:17
seekershould be *page fault due to a memory related but*08:17
bugz_ anybody here from Chatsworth?08:17
bob2helio7: what does "ecoh $PATH" print out?08:17
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mjcthr1ce, I have a 9800 Pro in my machine now because my GF4Ti4600 died.08:17
mjcsucks08:17
conanhomei forgot is an ubuntu hoary 5.0408:17
guruffme again; is there a simpler way to change qt theme than installing whole kde ? :)08:17
aisiposseeker: Then is there an easy way to have music players (like Amarok) run with a real-time priority when chosen to play files via nautilus?08:17
mjcI'm going to get a pair of 6800GTs tomorrow08:17
thr1cemjc, 9800 pro works beautiful with good drivers08:17
ryan_FGLRX says it wants to write to "XF86Config-4, but I'm using Xorg. Is it ok to use that filename?08:18
aisiposseeker: I get skipping now and then under high load.08:18
thr1ceryan_, yes, but you're going to have to hack a bit08:18
ryan_explain08:18
bob2ryan_: are you following the instrucions on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?08:18
seekeryes. but than you will only be able to use them through root (just change the nice)08:18
chazwurthda_bon_bon: Found it. There's nothing that looks like a tracking number here, and from there website it looks like I would have had to purchase tracking. They didn't offer and I didn't think to ask, sorry08:18
mjcthr1ce, there aren't ayn08:18
ryan_...no? I was just told to use fglrx08:18
mjcany08:18
ryan_config08:18
chazwurth*their08:18
mjcfor my operating system and processor architecture of choice08:18
thr1cemjc, there are no windows drivers for ATI cards?08:18
bob2ryan_: just follow those instructions08:18
helio7bob2: /home/michael/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games08:19
thr1ceyes, I know08:19
seekerskipping here and there, might be normal. as long as it's not a mouse freeze08:19
thr1cei only game on my win2k partition thouh08:19
bob2helio7: how do you know /usr/bin/cal is being run?  different output or such?08:19
mjcwhat fun is that08:19
thr1ceum...alot when I don't have to emulate things08:19
Hobocopme too thrice08:19
helio7bob2: yes exactly08:19
Hobocopcrap starcraft runs slow when I WINE it08:19
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HobocopI dont know why08:19
dr_willisheh08:20
Hobocopbut it does08:20
da_bon_bonchazwurth: oh ok.. if it costs more, then i will wait anyway :) coz it will reach, i know :)08:20
seekerhow can I remove an entry from the gnome application menu?08:20
mjcthr1ce, it's actually a few fps faster with my geforce 4 on amd64 linux than on x64 xp08:20
HobocopI run half life 2 fine in windows08:20
chazwurthda_bon_bon: I'm sure it'll get there.08:20
Hobocopbut starcraft kills in ubuntu :(08:20
thr1ceok...i'm updating my breezy and heading to sleep; night all; nice chattin mjc08:20
mjc20fps average gain in doom3.08:20
mjcnight08:20
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mjcwith x.org from head plus some no-spin-while-idle hacks and realtime-preempt, it's nearly 60fps faster08:21
Hobocophttp://dickcream.com/1986/ :):):)08:22
helio7doh bob2 it automagically came around; I have several terminal windows open and I was sure I had sourced .bashrc in each of them, but now it's working =P thanks for the reassurance08:22
desrtmjc; what just changed to make doom faster?08:22
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nixboxdoes anyone know why the some packages wont be upgraded if i do a dist-upgrade from warty to hoary?08:24
nicedreamshow do you remove a password from a user so I won't need one when I log in?08:24
mjcdesrt, first, amd64 linux instead of x64 windows, second, experimental xorg and linux kernel patches08:24
desrtmjc; nvidia card?08:25
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bob2nixbox: not every single package changed between warty and hoary08:26
mjcdesrt, yes08:26
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mjcdesrt, had to hack the crap out of the drivers though08:26
desrtthis is good news.08:26
seekernicedreams, you can go to login screen setup in system->admin and use automatic log in08:26
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nicedreamsthx08:27
nixboxbob2, what should i do then?08:27
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nixboxbob2, whenever i do apt-get it says 22 packages not upgraded08:28
bob2nixbox: what do you mean?08:28
bob2nixbox: ...08:28
bob2nixbox: why do yo uthink that's a problem?08:28
nixboxbob2, how would those 22 be upgraded?08:28
bob2nixbox: paste the output of 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to #flood08:28
seekerhow can I remove an entry from the gnome application mentu?08:28
nixboxbob2, ok08:28
seekerI uninstalled the program but the icon is still there08:29
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seeker(I added the icon manually with the menu edit)08:29
abarbacciaseeker, the same way - with menu edit08:29
ollonbrusHia! How do i configure my x-server. I've managed to completely destroy m xorg.conf, and my manual setup do not seem to work.08:29
seekerhow? the delete option didn't work...08:29
mjchmm, whoops08:30
nixboxbob2, done08:30
abarbacciahurm, not sure - maybe afer a reboot it'll go08:30
mjclooks like evms thought there was still a raid there08:30
mjchow strange08:30
seekernope, already rebooted08:30
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guruffi have gnome - only; how i can change qt theme ?08:33
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behhow come when i resize the mplayer window it doesn't resize the video? it used to on my gentoo install08:33
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guruffbeh; you have -vo x11 thats why08:34
behhow do i fix that08:34
guruffbeh; mplayer -vo help <- what does it say?08:34
flyer_guruff: yeah, me too, how to change the video size? im trying but i cant :S08:34
beh x11     X11 ( XImage/Shm )08:34
guruffok both of you, do you have XV listed when you do mplayer -vo help ????08:35
behthat's one of the lines08:35
behyeah i have xv08:35
guruffbeh then try mplayer -vo xv some.file08:35
chazwurthollonbrus: Dunno if there's an Ubuntu-specific answer, but I'd try 'Xorg -configure'08:35
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nixboxbob2, you there?08:36
behguruff that works how do i make it use xv by default08:36
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guruffbeh in ~./mplayer/config add line vo=xv08:36
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behalright cool thanks08:38
guruffbeh u should use also vo=alsa :P08:38
flyer_hey guruff help me too hehe08:39
guruffalsa afaik sucks less on a-v synch08:39
flyer_i have xv too in the mplayer -vo help08:39
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guruffflyer_; ok; so mplayer -vo xv some.file works for you ?08:40
flyer_let me check08:40
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holysmokesi just installed fluxbox using apt but it's taking a very long time to start up.. any suggestions?08:42
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flyer_guruff, stay in.. :  alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default08:42
guruffok, this is audio problem08:43
guruffflyer_;  for now try mplayer -vo xv -ao null some.file08:43
guruffflyer_; lets see first if you have xv working08:43
flyer_guruff, in MPlayer i can listen all ok. just videos, i can't resize08:43
flyer_ok08:43
guruffanyone have a clue how to change a qt theme in ubuntu ? i don't have kde installed08:44
flyer_guruff, im seeing, seems xv working08:45
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Gert_Kd08:46
guruffflyer_; good, so everything works now? you can play movies mplayer -vo xv some.file, resize window and you have sound ?08:46
flyer_guruff, i dont know why now, i dont 've sound...08:47
guruffflyer_; ok... lets see [mplayer -ao help]  will list all availaibe audio output, tell me what you got there08:48
Gert_KI just installed ubuntu 5.04 but there is a strange problem. My labtop suddenly powers off, often when i compile. Somebody who knows why?08:49
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flyer_guruff, i configured sound, it's all ok. only thinkg i dont 've is the size of videos08:51
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guruffflyer_; erm, what do you mean ?08:52
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`anthonyanyone found a decent way to find hotels near the conf venue?08:52
`anthony$180/night is a bit *ahem* extortionate.08:53
flyer_guruff, i can view and listen my videos, but, i can't rezize the video, only the windows rezise, but not video. can u understand my bad english? ;)08:53
_phate_`anthony, what conference?08:53
flyer_guruff, to rezise, always must put command -vo xv file ?08:54
guruffflyer_; ok; to be albe to resize video you need to pass -vo xv to mplayer each time you want to play08:54
guruffflyer_; or add to file ~./mplayer/config line vo=xv so mplayer will do it automatically :)08:54
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flyer_guruff, i'll do that. Thanks you lots ;)08:55
guruffflyer_; no probs08:55
`anthony_phate_ ubuntudownunder, next week08:56
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phateah nm then I'm not in australia08:57
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flyer_thanks for all cya. ubuntu community rules!08:59
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guruffso quiet... yawn09:10
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guruffmaby somebody knows how to change qt theme without installing kde ?09:10
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dazedhello all09:11
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Hobocopcool just installed apache :)09:17
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adrian__Hi there09:25
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sobersabreguys where are the docs on how to compile custom kernel ubuntu way ?09:31
geoffjhi, has any body had any troubles with the nvidia 7174 driver?  I get an xserver lock up both on my home machine and many machines at work.09:32
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desrtapt is awful confusing09:34
desrt  evolution-data-server: Depends: libcamel1.2-3 (>= 1.2.2) but it is not going to be installed09:34
desrteven though libcamel1.2-3 1.2.2 is *currently* installed09:34
Tuxicitysobersabre: personaly never had to compile a custom kernel on Ubuntu, but maybe check wiki.ubuntu.com09:34
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espiemI need help regarding installing application09:37
Tuxicitydesrt: well ya, which is why it's not going to be installed... cause it already is O_O09:38
Tuxicityespiem: which app.?09:38
espiemi've download package ie xmms from debian. How to install?09:39
desrtTuxicity; ha ha ha09:39
desrtnot helpful :P09:39
espiemi'm newbies. Just installed linux yesterday09:40
Tuxicityespiem: Ok. Dont download from Debian. Can you use the terminal?09:40
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espiemtuxicity: yes09:41
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Diablo-D3hey guys09:41
Diablo-D3whats the default gtk theme in ubuntu?09:41
Tuxicityespiem: go to www.ubuntuguide.org09:42
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Diablo-D3anyone know?09:42
espiemyes I did09:42
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Tuxicityespiem: then you did "sudo apt-get install xmms"?09:43
espiemTuxicity: Ok09:44
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Tuxicityespiem: does that work?09:44
itayI am trying to install OSS but I got this error:09:44
itayTrying to disable the conflicting sound driver09:45
espiemu mean, in terminal just type "sudo apt-get install xmms?09:45
Diablo-D3itay: dont do that09:45
Diablo-D3use alsa09:45
Tuxicityespiem: yes, but first09:46
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espiemyea, it's downloading09:46
holysmokesanyone think of a reason why freshly installed fluxbox would take several minutes to start/restart? enlightenment starts within a reasonable amount of time09:47
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desrtapt is  confusing09:49
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GOwinhello. i got a question. i just changed my xfce screen resolution and now, my screen is undreadable. but logging into gnome works fine.09:50
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espiemTuxicity: what's next? anyway, it's still downloading. I thoungh it's only 1.2MB09:51
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Tuxicityespiem: that should install XMMS09:51
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GOwinhello?09:51
gooAre there any wifi daemons out there than waproamd?09:51
gooother than..09:52
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TrickyphillipsHello. :)09:52
TuxicityGOwin: i hear you, but cant help, sry09:52
GOwinok. thanks.09:52
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TuxicityTrickyphillips: hi :)09:53
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gnumdkhello09:53
Trickyphillips8-)09:53
espiemTuxicity: It;s done. But where's  my shortcut? or directory?09:53
TrickyphillipsDo any of you know of a macro program for linux?09:53
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TrickyphillipsI want to record keystrokes, and replay them.09:54
gnumdkI'm a kubuntu user and i need to know if ubuntu cursor theme is set in gdm09:54
Tuxicityespiem: type "killall gnome-panel" in terminal + press ENTER09:54
Tuxicityespiem: that will refresh the "Applications" menu09:54
Tuxicityespiem: and you should find XMMS in Applications --> Sound And Video --> XMMS09:55
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espiemtuxicity: ok. It's done. Thank you a lot for tutorial09:56
Tuxicityespiem: no problemo ;)09:56
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Tuxicitygnumdk: FYI, are you awarer of the channel #kubuntu ?09:57
gnumdkyeah, but i just want to know if it work with gdm :)09:58
flipywhat's the default password for the mysql-server?09:59
Tuxicitygnumdk: im on GNOME. Im no gdm expert, but if you tell me how, i'll check09:59
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Trickyphillipsflipy: I believe default password is "admin".10:01
TrickyphillipsI might be mistaken, though.10:02
flipyok10:02
flipyi'll try10:02
gnumdkTuxicity: log out, tell me if cursor theme is default xorg one or ubuntu default one :)10:02
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flipyuhm weird10:04
flipyTrickyphillips, how can I check that?10:04
flipyor modify that?10:04
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TrickyphillipsDo you have phpmyadmin installed?10:04
itayDiablo-D3, I have problems with alsa that I could solve10:04
flipylemm check10:04
itaycouldn't*10:04
TrickyphillipsYou should definetely get it, if you don't have it.10:04
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TrickyphillipsJust apt-get install phpmyadmin.10:05
flipyI'm doing it now10:05
itayI can't hear midi files10:05
da_bon_bonhi all. does wine interface with the kernel closeley ? as in, if a program works on 2.6.11 , will the milage vary, say, on 2.6.12-rc2 /?10:05
holycowby the way, if anyone is wondering why totem gstreamer doesn't play certain files, its because totem-gstreamer requires gstreamer0.8-plugins package.  tote-xine requires the w32 codecs from marrillat repository.10:05
flipyTrickyphillips, I guess it's gonna be something like http://localhost/phpmyadmin right?10:05
pixil9How do i get a cloak with nickserv?10:05
TrickyphillipsYes.10:05
TrickyphillipsI now remember using username "root", with a blank password.10:06
TrickyphillipsYou can change the password from phpmyadmin.10:06
flipyAccess denied for user: 'admin@localhost' (Using password: YES)10:06
Tuxicitygnumdk: emm, this may sound silly but how do I know which theme it is? the cursor is just a simple arrow...10:06
flipyok, it didn't have any password Trickyphillips, thanks for the help and sorry bothering you10:06
TrickyphillipsIt was no bother. :D10:06
flipy:D10:07
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TrickyphillipsHave fun with MySQL. :)10:07
kakaltocan I legally copy Xandros?10:07
flipywelll xDDD10:07
flipyit says "Create a new database: no privileges"10:07
holycowkakalto, only the gpl packages10:07
flipylogged as admin10:07
TrickyphillipsHmm.10:07
holycowxandros has some proprietary software in it, you need to check the licence with those packages10:08
kakaltoholycow, so there's different versions?10:08
TrickyphillipsWhere does it say that?10:08
flipyat the home page of phpmyadmin10:08
holycowdifferent versions of what?10:08
kakaltoholycow, or do you mean I can copy Xandros, so long as I don't copy the proprietory packages?10:08
kakaltois Xandros itself proprietory?10:08
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Trickyphillipsflipy: Check out the "privledges" page.10:09
holycowkakalto, xandros is based on debian10:09
kakaltoohk10:09
holycowdebian is a free software distribution10:09
kakaltoyeah10:09
holycowthat means it only contains gpl software10:09
flipyTrickyphillips, it was my fault, logged as root does give me privileges10:09
flipyagain, thanks dude10:09
TrickyphillipsYou're welcome. :)10:09
holycowi.e. you can do whatever the gpl allows you to do with xandros as its mostly gpl'd but watch out for the proprietary stuff10:09
TrickyphillipsGlad I could help. :D10:09
flipy:D:D:D:D10:10
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kakaltoholycow, so I can't just copy the cd10:10
holycowholycow that means it only contains gpl software <-- ..err i mean contains only 'free' software such as things under gpl, bsd, etc.10:11
holycowkakalto, correct10:11
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xukunwhich multimedia player can I best use?10:12
holycowcurrently it seems totem-xine is tops, totem-gstreamer still has some issues, although it looks like totem-gstreamer might be ultimately the future just needs to get debugged10:12
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holycowfor totem-xine you will need the w32codecs from marrillat repository, search for info on google/ubuntu site10:13
xukunholycow, I already did sudo apt-get install w32codecs10:13
holycowdo you have totem-xine then?10:14
xukunholycow, no yet, just apt-get that?10:14
holycowsearch for it first, i'm not sure if i have the spelling correct10:14
xukunyes that is it10:14
TrickyphillipsMan... I love freenode so much. So many interesting channels here.10:15
holycowTrickyphillips, make sure you donate10:15
TrickyphillipsHow can I donate?10:15
holycowlogout from freenode, log back in, your main irc window will have info on it, perhaps you still do10:16
TrickyphillipsAlright, thanks. :)10:16
TrickyphillipsI'll take a look.10:16
holycow:)10:16
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TrickyphillipsFreenode gives to UNICEF? It's the perfect cover for a money laundering operation. No one can keep track of all those kids with the little orange boxes of change.10:19
thenukesudo apt-get install ams -> Segmentation fault10:19
thenuke:-O Any knowledge about this?10:19
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thenukeamsn, that was.10:20
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xukunany nice video clip online so I can test my totem-xine?10:20
holycowlol Trickyphillips10:20
kakaltoany ideas what would happen if I ran the DirectX 9 installer under wine?10:20
holycoware you saying we're in the wrong business?10:20
TrickyphillipsHehe.10:21
TrickyphillipsNah, Kramer said that in a Seinfeld episode. :P10:21
kakaltoanyone?10:21
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Tuxicityhmm, sometimes when I click on "Logout" under "System", it takes an abnormally long time before the dialog is displayed.10:21
itayhi!10:21
itayI have problems with alsa.10:22
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Burgundaviakakalto, I doubt it would work. Wine is attempting to make the winlibs include dx910:22
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kakaltoTuxicity, sometimes I click any application, and it doesn't run the program :P10:22
bugz_itay: are you Filipino?10:22
itayno10:22
kakaltoBurgundavia, ohk10:22
itaythe system sound and the other sound can't be play togheter in the same boot.10:22
itayto example: if I press tab in the konsole, I hear the beap10:22
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jhortholarybonjour tlm !10:23
itayfor now, till I will restart X, I can't hear sound from games/softwares.10:23
itaywhat is the problem?10:23
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jhortholaryhello everybody10:23
jhortholary:d10:23
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itayI tried to install OSS10:24
itaybut I didn't succeed10:24
itayI got an error.10:25
itayso what should I do? try to fix ALSA or try to install OSS?10:25
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\shcan anyone tell me, in which package grubconf is hiding?10:26
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M0KQUCan any 1 tell me if Ubunto will work on a pentium 166 mmx with 2Gb hdd & 24 Mb ram ??10:28
kakaltowhat graphics card?10:28
kakaltowith 24mb RAM, probably not10:28
thenukeM0KQU: yes, but not with the default install10:28
BurgundaviaM0KQU, yes, but very very slowly10:28
kakaltono interface, perhaps?10:28
BurgundaviaM0KQU, you will need to remove any DE, and most WM's even are too big10:29
M0KQUohh dear  i dont think there is any hope left for this little laptop of mine lol10:29
kakaltoGraphical, I mean10:29
thenukeM0KQU: you need to do custom-install, and install fluxbox or some else lightweight window manager10:29
BurgundaviaM0KQU, make it a headless firewall10:29
TuxicityM0KQU: the installer requires at least 24MB of RAM10:29
kakaltoM0KQU, turn it into a web host :D10:29
thenukeM0KQU: for sure is10:29
M0KQUwith linux ?10:29
thenukeM0KQU: you just need to know a bit or be willing to learn some, if you want to use ubuntu10:29
thenukeLike I said, you would have to do custom-install, and then install software by yourself for it10:30
M0KQUim new to linux so wanted to give it a try10:30
njanM0KQU, I have a similar laptop with slightly more ram and slightly less processor, and it works great with netbsd. I haven't had much success in getting any linux on it usably, graphically.10:30
thenukeM0KQU: ah, not a choice for newbie :)10:30
thenukeM0KQU: does that laptop have cd-rom?10:30
njanM0KQU, you'll get it to work in text mode, but if you're new to linux that may not be what you want :p10:30
M0KQUyes it has a cd rom drive10:30
thenukeM0KQU: if you have cd-rom on it, surf to www.damnsmalllinux.org10:30
thenukeit will be great choice for your old box10:31
M0KQUok ill have a look thanks10:31
kakaltohmm10:31
kakaltoI have a p2 with a really crap gfx card, I might try that10:31
kakaltomy problem is the gfx card10:31
kakaltoubuntu couldn't autodetect it10:31
kakaltoand, for that matter, the screen probably wasn't good anyway10:32
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Hylgerhy :)10:35
ghatakHi, i need some help regarding vnc, my question is, can vnc keep running desktop applications even if get disconnected ?10:36
sobersabreTuxicity, what's the latest stable ubuntu binary kernel ?10:36
sobersabre2.6.10 or 2.6.11 ?10:36
Hylger2.6.10 i think10:36
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sobersabrei have a 2.6.10 one on hoary vanilla.10:36
HrdwrBoB1010:36
HrdwrBoB2.6.10-510:36
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sobersabreyep10:37
TrickyphillipsIs running fsck on a mounted filesystem really so bad? :P10:37
Tuxicitysobersabre: HrdwrBoB knows best!10:37
seekerhow can I manually edit the application menu (gnome)?10:38
HylgerI have a problem with the sound; My sound card is not detected. Can somebody help me ? I have try many action, but know they said that i must remake the alsa driver and i have error10:38
ChoubakaTrickyphillips: fsck will fsck up if a change is done to the filesystem.10:38
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TrickyphillipsLol.10:38
TrickyphillipsI guess that's what the "WARNING! DON'T USE FSCK! RUN AWAY! STOP NOW!" message was trying to tell me.10:39
Trickyphillips:P10:39
Choubaka:P10:39
HrdwrBoBHylger: what card is it10:39
HylgerIt's a RealTek ALC65010:40
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seekerno one knows how to eddit the app menu?10:43
seeker(manually)10:43
Choubakathere's some tool to it.10:43
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Hylgernobody know ?10:43
seekerI am having trouble with the tool, thats why I want to do it manually10:43
ollonbrusi tried to donfigure xorg with Xorg -configure but got an error message sayng something like "couldn't find an appropiate driver"10:44
seeker(I should probebly report the bugs there as well)10:44
ollonbrusgot an MSI Geforce 6800 LE10:44
Choubakause the "nv" driver.10:44
ollonbrusAnd a IBM G74 17" monitor10:44
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ollonbrusi'm using the nv driver....10:44
seekerHylger, you might try http://soundcard.free-driver-download.com/RealTek/11089/Realtek-ALC650-ALC655-AC97-Audio-Driver-A2.3-For-Linux.html10:45
ollonbrusprehaps i should use the nvidia driver...10:45
ollonbrusdunno how to install it though10:45
Alsedoes anyone know if you can setup up a net work between winxp and ubuntu without too much hassel?10:45
HylgerOki thx seeker for your respons :)10:45
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seekerollonbrus did you check synaptic?10:46
ollonbrusseeker: synaptic?10:46
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seekerunder system->admin10:47
gooollonbrus: System -> Administration10:47
seekerit's the ubuntu auto installer (sorta)10:47
ollonbrusi cant start the x-server so i cant se that .... or is it somewhere else?10:48
seekeryou can use apt get through terminal10:48
gooollonbrus: use   apt-cache search nvidia  , then apt-get install the package you need10:48
ollonbrusok, and then driver "nvidia" in xorg.conf?10:49
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seekerATI here as well10:49
ollonbrusthe strange thing is that it worked at the first boot, is there a way to do the autoconfiguraton again?10:49
ollonbrusMe want ATI too...10:50
Madeyeguys, I have only Ubuntu installed on my system, How can I install windowsXP now ?10:50
seekerthrough terminal?10:50
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ollonbrusMadeye: If you want to still have ubuntu on your system and dualboot you must have an empty partition or harddrive. If you have that you just tell the winxp intaller to install itself on that partition...10:51
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ollonbrusBe aware that you'll need to reinstall grub to the mbr after doing that if the windowsdisk is the primary disk10:51
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ollonbrusor  if the linuxdisk is connected during install10:52
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seekerif you don't have a partition be sure to make one *before* you start installing!10:52
Madeyeollonbrus,  my problem is, when I installed ubuntu I have choosed use entire disk for ubuntu How can I create partition now ?10:52
ollonbrusi dont know if there are any tools to resize ext3 partitions... google for that...10:53
ollonbrusor if yoyu want to, you can buy a new disk, they're so cheep these days :D10:53
Burgundaviaollonbrus, parted, with its frontends {g|qt}parted will do it10:53
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spacedmancant you resize with "parted" and the gui version "qtparted"?10:54
Madeyeallorder,  I have another hdd, but linux wont recognize it, when I boot, on loading grub I got 99 99 99 99 etc..10:54
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ollonbrusMadeye: make sure the second disk is properly connected and that the jumper setting are correct10:55
seeker(second try) anyone know how to *manually* eddit the app. menu?10:55
Madeyeollonbrus,  its correct, I have checked it with ubuntu live cd, it works, but it didn't work with the installed ubuntu10:55
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ollonbrusMadeye: that's odd, i'll check into the problem more when i get home - right now i'm in school and unfortuneately i've got to leave now....10:57
ollonbrusgood luck!10:57
Madeyeollonbrus,  ok then catch you later10:57
Madeyethank you10:58
Hylgerseeker, i've download your fill but it doesn't work when i try to make it10:58
Hylgermake[1] : *** [dep]  Erreur 110:58
Hylgermake[1] : quittant le rpertoire  /home/morphx/Desktop/al/alsa-driver-0.9.4 10:58
Hylgermake: *** [include/sndversions.h]  Erreur 210:58
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seekerwhat was the sound card again?10:59
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HylgerALC 65011:00
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EkaitzaHello everybody..11:01
chicken_man:P11:01
Madeyesometimes linux suck it,11:01
MadeyeHi Ekaitza11:01
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EkaitzaI'm working with a linux Ubuntu in my ibook g4, which works great11:02
Hylgerhi11:02
chicken_manewwwwwww ibook11:02
seekerHylger, check out this post http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4253.html11:02
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Hylgeroki thx11:03
Madeyemine working just fine, but having weird issue11:03
Ekaitzathe question is that I like having my Macos and from time to time I like using a live cd with Ubuntu11:03
Ekaitzadoes anybody know if it is possible saving in a cd the configuration??11:03
chicken_manEkaitza , unless the cd is open for writeing no11:04
Ekaitzathat's what I mean11:04
chicken_manehhhh11:04
chicken_mani dunno11:04
Ekaitzais there any way of leaving it open or making changes on the iso file??11:05
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chicken_manwhat tool do you use to burn cd's ?11:05
EkaitzaI know there are some programs to change iso files11:05
Ekaitzaif I'm working with windows Nero11:05
chicken_manahhhh try window alchol 120%11:06
chicken_manwindows*11:06
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chicken_manalcohol * <can't spell it lol11:06
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EkaitzaI'll try ;)11:08
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chicken_manyes i love alcohol 120% always works for me ;)11:09
Ekaitzaso, the point is just leaving it open??11:09
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Ekaitzado you think it's going to work??11:09
chicken_manyea look through the burn options11:09
chicken_mani can't be sure but it should do11:10
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chicken_mani got to get some food it's 10am here brb :P11:11
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dwdHiya folks. I'm running Debian amd64. I'm skimming the website, but haven't yet discovered whether Ubuntu supports a 64-bit build, yet, and haven't yet discovered whether I can apt-get across from Debian to Ubuntu, nor whether I really ought to switch anyway. Anyone free to have their brains picked?11:14
dwdAh, okay, found the architecture list by looking in the downloads bit.11:16
mjcdwd, my attempts to dpkg -i packages made for i386 fail..11:16
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fabbione411:19
Burgundaviadwd, you can use debian sources, but they may break11:19
Burgundaviadwd, most of Debian is already in Ubuntu11:19
Burgundaviadwd, generally, Ubuntu is Debian Sid, polished up and released every six months11:20
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Burgundaviadwd, any further questions, while the channel is quiet?11:21
dwdBurgundavia: Right... But, given a running Debian install, it's okay to switch my apt sources to Ubuntu and just upgrade?11:23
Burgundaviathere is a woody-->warty11:23
Burgundaviaand a warty-->hoary11:23
Burgundaviayou might try sarge-->hoary11:23
Burgundaviasid-->hoary is a no go11:23
Burgundaviabut sid-->breezy is a sort of go11:24
Burgundaviaas breezy is synced to sid11:24
Burgundaviabut I would wait until mid-may for that11:24
Burgundaviathat make it clearer?11:24
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snowblinkany news on FF 1.0.3?11:25
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Madeyeguys, How can I check if my winmodem driver is the correct one, and How to check to which modem port its connected?11:25
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Burgundaviasnowblink, the security fixes will be backported to 1.0.2 for hoary11:26
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itayI want to install alsa from source11:28
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pixil9apt-get build i think11:29
itayand I have got a problem in the onfigure11:29
itayconfigure*11:29
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Burgundaviaitay, I would get the Ubuntu sources11:29
pixil9noe hmm11:29
kakaltoI half-expect the topic to be RTFM11:29
itayso how should I install it?11:29
Burgundaviakakalto, that is non-Ubuntu11:29
pixil9apt-get source i think11:29
Burgundaviaapt-get source gets it11:29
Burgundaviathen read the pbuilderhowto on the wiki11:29
Burgundaviaand the build it with that11:29
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itayE: Unable to find a source package for alsa11:30
Burgundaviaand then install the driver on your system11:30
Burgundaviaitay, it might not be alsa11:30
Burgundaviaitay, look on packages.ubuntu.com for it11:30
itayso what the package name?11:30
itayok11:30
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itayitay@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install alsa-source11:31
itaywhat now?11:31
kakaltoBurgundavia, ah, of course, 'linux for human beings"11:32
kakaltonot for man-users :P11:32
itaywhen I configure alsa-lib11:32
itayI get that error:11:32
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itayconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check11:32
Burgundaviaitay, have you installed build-essential?11:33
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itayno, to install?11:33
itaythank you!11:34
Burgundaviaitay, that will get you all your compilers, as they are not installed by default11:35
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Solatisis it safe already to upgrade to hoary, nvidia-wise ?11:35
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BurgundaviaSolatis, Hoary is stable, so yes11:35
itayso why ubuntu doesn't install them by default?11:35
Solatisas in, there was a buggy nvidia driver in one of the last release candidates of hoary11:35
BurgundaviaSolatis, as any upgrade is safe11:35
Burgundaviathings may break for some people11:35
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SolatisBurgundavia: any idea what the version of the nvidia kernel in hoary is ?11:36
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mz2Solatis, should work fine now11:36
BurgundaviaSolatis, you might want to check packages.ubuntu.com and look for restricted-modules11:36
BurgundaviaSolatis, can't tell you offhand11:36
mz2Solatis, 717411:36
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MrM__how can i enable printer administration through the cups web interface in 5.04?11:38
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involvedhas anyone got a Lexmark 1100 printer to work with any linux distro?11:43
kentwhat does this meen? ->  mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/oohtml2.1.gz is a dangling symlink11:44
involvedis it possible to make keyboard shortcuts (edited by the gnome app) work with XMMS? it doesn't seem to work..11:44
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MrM__kent: a dangling symlink is a symbolic link whose destination does not exist11:48
kentMrM__, so would that make this a bug? Anacrons daily report about my Ubuntu Hoary system tells me this for the OpenOffice.org2 manuals.11:49
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Kreigernow then11:50
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kakaltoI've decided I don't like suse11:53
kakaltothey don't even offer an open circulation for download on their site11:53
HrdwrBoBhence why ubuntu rocks :)11:53
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MrM__kent, no idea11:53
Burgundaviakakalto, they offer 9.3 live dvd11:54
BurgundaviaI played with it in qemu11:54
Burgundaviathe link is on distrowatch11:54
kakaltolive11:54
kakaltonot install11:54
Burgundaviahmm11:55
Burgundaviais suse11:55
involvedthat's why I also changed from SuSE to ubuntu..11:55
involvedand from RH to Debian in the gateway..11:56
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HrdwrBoBheh11:56
HrdwrBoBmy gateway runs openwrt11:57
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kentkakalto, what do you meen by "dont offer an open circulation for download on their site"?  I have never used suse..11:57
involvedkent, you can't download the .iso and install.. it's kinda confusing.. you get the feeling that you are using something illegal..11:57
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kentinvolved, how do you get the iso then? Or is it not possible at all to fetch their iso's for free?11:58
involvedyou can.. but it's not when it is released.. it's later..11:59
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involvedand there are only a few mirrors with packages updates also.. at least here in Portugal..11:59
Kreigerwow.. been awhile since i used ubuntu. how do i get into sources.list as root again?12:00
kentinvolved, ok.  Do suse have a 6 month release like Fedora and Ubuntu?12:00
involvedno12:00
kentKreiger, "sudo nano sources.list"?12:00
BazziKreiger sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list12:00
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Kreiger....12:00
kentKreiger, or use synaptic.12:00
Kreigerwhich one is it?12:00
Albackerguys, mv command doesnt work. how can I alias, mv2 to 'cat file > file2; rm -rf file' ?12:00
kakaltowhat's wrong with XFree86?12:00
itayI have got a problem while configuring alsa-utils:12:00
kakaltoand what's better about Xorg?12:01
itayconfigure: error: this packages requires a curses library12:01
involvedthose 6 month releases were the reason why I choose debian instead of Ubuntu for the gateway.. :)12:01
dwdkakalto: Wrong with XFRee86 is that the license is weird. This led to the mass exodus of most of the developers.12:01
itayI searched in packages.ubuntu.com and "apt-cache search", but I didn't find a new packaeg12:01
itayhow do I get the curses library?12:01
KreigerWell, actually, kent, i wanted to upgrade from warty to hoary12:01
involveditay, ncurses12:01
Kreigercan i do that in synaptic?12:01
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dwdkakalto: X.org is under constant development, (it's just a fork), and has no licensing issues.12:02
kakaltoahk12:02
ek_you can do it in synaptics12:02
pixil9hmm12:02
itayinvolved, it's already installed12:02
dwdkakalto: It does pretties, basically. :-)12:02
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kentKreiger, Both mine and Bazzi's example work. His example is using vim, which is a kind of ugly editor, its hard to use for new users.  Just open the /etc/apt/sources.list file and change every "warty" into "hoary" and then run sudo apt-get update,  and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:02
_axelis nvdia fixed in hoary-release?12:03
Bazzivim ain't ugly!12:03
KreigerI'm changing all warty to hoary in synaptic12:03
kent_axel, everything is fixed in Hoary.12:03
itayhow can I get the curses library or why configure doesn't find it?12:03
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_axelkent: cool, thanks12:03
krusbjornitay: you probably need the ncurses dev package12:03
kev0rany SciTE users here?12:03
kent_axel, as soon as a distrubution turns stable, it only gets security- and bug-fixes.12:04
involvedKreiger, yes.. just go to: settings-> repositories-> edit12:04
nixboxi cant lock my screen in ubuntu, i am pressing the lock button but it aint happenin?12:04
gorilla__axel, I did a warty->hoary upgrade and that was the easiest way to fix the nvidia driver issue :-)12:04
AtholasI have created a 250MB swap partition when I install Ubuntu, but df shows that the swap partition mounted is only 5MB in size. Why is this?12:04
_axelkent: yes, i know that, but since nvidia was broken in rc1, i just wanted to make sure... dont feel like recompiling it myself again and etc12:04
pixil9Atholas, you messed up bad12:04
kakaltodwd, I realise what X does, I just wasn't sure what was up with XF8612:04
pixil9Atholas, Now your swap can never be bigger.. _ever_12:05
dwdAtholas: df shouldn't show a swap partition at all...12:05
itaythis one: libncursesw5-dev?12:05
dwdkakalto: No, I mean there's *new* pretty stuff in X.org. :-) Like compositing.12:05
itayno. still have the error12:05
krusbjornitay: i think it is the libncurses5-dev12:05
kakaltohehe12:05
kakalto*new* :D12:05
Kreigerfrom command line, how do i open sources.list?12:05
dwdAtholas: You sure you're not confusing swap with tmpfs? What does "free -m" say?12:06
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stazzIs there any repositories with rapid updates available?12:06
stazzAs in testing-repositories?12:06
stazzor some that will break my system if use them?12:06
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involvedKreiger, you can do it in synaptic.. read what i told u12:06
Atholasdwd: 266MB12:06
Kreigeri got null errors12:06
itaythank you! It's working!12:06
krusbjornitay: yay! :)12:06
dwdAtholas: What, free -m says you have 266M swap? Then you do. :-)12:06
ek_Kreiger, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list12:07
stazzand.. anyone know how to get involved with maintaining the repositories?12:07
KreigerTHANK you12:07
kent_axel, I had problems with nvidia during Hoary development (My tnt2-card could not use that driver) but I tried the driver when Hoary became stable and it works now. I have been running the nvidia driver with out problems..12:07
kakaltoI like Xandros, they have a good idea, making "Great", "Good" and "Free" versions12:07
ek_Kreiger, in sources.list replace warty with hoary12:07
dwdKreiger: Or sudo vi /etc/sources.list - Then type :%s/warty/hoary/g12:07
Atholasdwd: but why is it that the mount point of my swap partition is "none", and df shows that none is 5MB?12:07
Kreigeri did that, ek, now trying to remember how to save it12:08
ek_ctrl-X12:08
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dwdAtholas: df doesn;t show swap. Swap isn't mounted, as such. df *does* show tmpfs, however, which you might be using. That'll just grow or shrink depending on what's used.12:08
gooAtholas: use the command free12:09
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dwdAtholas: But tmpfs isn't swap, in case that's not clear. tmpfs is a scratch filesystem held in memory, used for things like lock files, POSIX shared memory, and other things you needn't care about much.12:10
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Atholasdwd: This is quite strange. I got tmpfs, but also something called none in df.12:10
dwdAtholas: Yep, that's normal. WHere's it mounted? (The last column)12:11
itay/etc/modules.conf is /etc/modules in ubuntu?12:11
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Atholasdwd: /dev. But /dev in turn is mounted on /.dev according to df.12:12
dwdAtholas: Oh, and do "df -Th", which'll print the filesystem type.12:12
krusbjornitay: there is an modules.conf file too, right?12:12
itayno12:12
Kreigerhow large is ubuntu hoary filesize wise?12:13
krusbjornitay: thats strange, i have one12:13
Choubakadepends on what you install.12:13
itayitay@ubuntu:/etc/modutils$ cat /etc/mod12:13
itaymodprobe.d/ modules     modutils/12:13
dwdAtholas: /dev is where the "special device files" live. Basically they're pretend files that just exist to make things like disks, memory, etc all look like files.12:13
KreigerWell, i ran warty 4.10, and it seemed to install everything... but now i'm dist-upgrading from warty.12:13
Kreigeri'm on a 4 gb drive, to get unrusty before i format my xp drive, and i'm worried about space12:14
dwdAtholas: If you have something mounted there, it's probably devfs or some other magic filesystem. Technically a "virtual filesystem", meaning it doesn't exist on a disk anywhere.12:14
Atholasdwd: Ahh.. it is a tmpfs :) thanks a lot. It's just that totem doesn't want to run totally because I'm supposedly out of ram, and what I saw in df kind of make me suspect that the harddrive is partitioned incorrectly, which I simply let Ubuntu to take care of my harddrive.12:14
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gooGah. Why oh why doesn't paste into Firefox open the url i am pasting?12:14
dwdAtholas: Okay. free -m tells you about ram. You need to look at the second number in the second line, generally.12:15
dwdAtholas: The second number in the third line is how many M of swap you're using - that should be low.12:16
Atholasdwd: Thanks a lot dwd, you are great.12:16
dwdAtholas: I know. ;-)12:16
Atholasdwd: :) Just one more thing, what is this -/+ buffers/cache thing right underneath Mem?12:17
pixil9I don't really get free.. it says i'm using 100% ram but gkrellm says I'm using like 40%12:17
dwdAtholas: What's the error in Totem, exactly?12:17
dwdpixil9: Yes, both are correct. free -m tells you about total usage, including filesystem buffering, etc. This should be 100%. The second line tells you about memory not used for buffering and cache, which is the critical one.12:18
Atholasdwd: I ran it and it closes immediately. So I ran it under console to catch the error message and it says something like "insufficient resources" or something like that. Naturally I assume that it is because I'm running low on memory.12:18
involvedis it possible to make keyboard shortcuts (edited by the gnome app) work with XMMS? it doesn't seem to work..12:18
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pixil9ah neato.12:18
pisukehi. any exif editor, something like easytag but for pics? googled and freshmeated but found nothing12:18
kakaltohow does the codeweavers trial work?12:19
dwdAtholas: "insufficient resources" is a little vague... What's the actual text it prints? (Run it in a terminal window, highlight the text it prints, and middle-click on the IRC client.)12:19
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kakaltobah12:20
kakaltoI'm off12:20
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pixil9what's a program i can use to wake on lan?12:22
pixil9i hate walking up 3 floors12:22
pixil9n/m found etherwake12:22
Burgundaviapisuke, gthumb may be able to do it12:23
Burgundaviadwd, if you see a bug, file it bugzilla.ubuntu.com12:23
stazzdoes anyone know where gnome saves the state of fonts rendered?12:23
Atholasdwd: I can't reproduce it again now. But I remember it said something about "BadAloc"12:26
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razorskin[504] hi12:26
Burgundaviasalut razorskin[504] 12:26
razorskin[504] I have a question: how can i change the default windowmanager in gdm?12:27
pixil9Why the hell would you install ubuntu and not use gnome??12:28
bit0razorskin[504] , look at /etc/X11/default...12:28
krusbjornrazorskin: install your WM and then choose it under "sessions"12:28
razorskin[504] i will use window maker :)12:28
Burgundaviapixil9, because you want the polished interior?12:28
krusbjornpixil9: because you are short of RAM?12:28
pixil9what do you mean?12:28
pixil9well wouldn't you just install debian lol.12:28
Choubakapixil9: It's not the same thing.12:29
pixil9It is when apt-get x-window-system and the wm you need12:29
ChoubakaUbuntu is a lot more than just a usable gnome-system.12:29
Choubakapixil9: no12:29
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pixil9Well I have yet to see that12:30
itayI still have problems with the sound.....12:30
itayeven after installing alsa from source12:30
pixil9itay: it's detected on boot?12:30
itayno12:30
razorskin[504] i want to change the login defaults to windowmaker because i want to login automatically12:31
pixil9ah12:31
itaynow I have alsaconf12:31
pixil9Will alsa load a module for it?12:31
itayI change the /etc/modules and created /etc/modules.conf too12:31
pixil9what kind of card is it12:32
Choubakapixil9: the difference between debian and ubuntu is that Ubuntu comes with up-to-date packages, but half of the packages don't get upgraded every other day like in debian unstable/sarge12:32
itayintel12:32
Choubakaand the default configuration is more suitable for desktop use.12:32
pisukeBurgundavia: with gthumb I just can change the date of editing, not the date the photo was taken12:32
cartel_i dont doubt debians qc process.. sarge will rock12:32
cartel_but it may rock too late12:32
pixil9itay: you've done all of the www.ubuntuguide.org stuff12:32
pixil9?12:33
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pixil9itay: I don't really know how alsa works but I thought your soundcard had to be loaded up at boot with a module of some sort12:34
Weisscartel_, Choubaka: indeed... more than three YEARS between stable releases is a bit silly12:34
itayhere is my modules and modules.conf: http://pastebin.com/27357212:34
pixil9sarge works fine the way it is12:34
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ChoubakaOf course it does.12:34
Choubakabut as of now you have to download 200MB of packages every week to keep it up-to-date12:35
itayhttp://pastebin.com/27357312:35
ChoubakaThat's why so many newbies come to the ubuntu channels asking "is it possible there's nothing to upgrade after I did apt-get update?"12:36
pixil9Whats the exact model of your soundcard?12:36
pixil9maybe it's not supported12:36
itaywhat should I do? install OSS??12:36
razorskin[504] ls12:36
razorskin[504] lol -.-12:36
krusbjornitay: have you searched the forums carefully for people with similar problems?12:37
itaynot in ubuntu forum12:37
krusbjornitay: give it a try :)12:37
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itayok. i will. and why  not to install OSS?12:38
pixil9How can you list loaded modules?12:38
lizdeikalsmod12:39
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pixil9itay: is alsa in /etc/init.d/12:40
IIIEarsHello!12:40
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IIIEarsGrub is giving me "Exit Code 18" - How do i fix it?12:40
pixil9hmm i need a cable to hookup my tvtuner12:41
tomekHallo - I just got the following error while updating package list: "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"12:41
tomekAny hints ?12:41
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IIIEarsthats sounds pretty serious  tomek12:42
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cartel_tomek: you may be behind a proxy giving you older copy of files12:42
IIIEarsI would skip the upgrade for now.12:42
itayshould I put soundcore in the modules?12:43
tomekIIIEars: well I just umarked universe and multiverse - wanting to ubdate list of packages and check for an update and got this...12:43
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cartel_that way no cache....12:43
pixil9Can you get 5.1 sound?12:43
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pixil9I just realized only my two front are working12:43
cartel_pixil9: maybe you will need to write the howto12:44
pixil9?12:45
itayshould I put soundcore in the modules?12:45
tomekcartel_: I am behind a proxy - so I should just wait for the proxy to update its cache - or I can do something about that ?12:45
involvedbye*12:45
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Puckaroohi, i have a tiny problem with my tvcard, can anyone help please?12:48
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Puckaroohi? anyone around ?12:50
Seveasno :)12:51
Puckaroolol12:51
tomekA diffrent thing: I am still having some minor problems with firefox - e.g. "Plugin Finder Service" dialog is broken - no text on buttons and basicly no reacting to anything - had anybody similar problems ?12:51
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Puckaroohi can you help me please, my tvcard down't seem to wanna work12:51
pixil9Puckaroo: is it in dmesg?12:52
Puckarooit used to but i just started xawtv and i get sound but no image12:52
Puckaroowhat is dmesg?12:52
Puckaroosorry i'm pretty new to this12:52
pixil9dmesg > temp12:52
MachineScrewdmesg prints out the kernel boot up log12:52
pixil9pico temp12:52
pixil9look for the card12:52
krusbjorntomek: even if that dialog would work, you probably wouldnt be able to find any plug-ins with it ;P basically you have to install most plugins manually12:53
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pixil9bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 0000:00:09.0, irq: 5, latency: 32, mmio: 0xef00100012:53
pixil9bttv0: detected: Hauppauge WinTV [card=10] , PCI subsystem ID is 0070:13eb12:53
pixil9that's mine12:53
MachineScrewhow is ubuntu compared to FC312:53
pixil9MachineScrew, Ubuntu is amazing. I switched from windows because of it12:53
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Puckarooi'm searching just a sec12:53
MachineScrewI that what I heard12:53
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BurgundaviaMachineScrew, the major differences are apt12:54
BurgundaviaMachineScrew, as well as being the only product of canonical12:54
MachineScrewI have apt in FC12:54
MyNameIsChrisMachineScrew, Sys. configuration is more difficult12:54
Burgundaviagood sensible defaults12:54
MachineScrewin Ubuntu12:54
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MachineScrewOk has any one tried it on a laptop12:55
Puckarooi can't seem to find it12:55
BurgundaviaMachineScrew, is very good on a latop12:55
dazedMachineScrew: i use it on a laptop daily12:55
pixil9Well it's probably not detected then.12:55
Puckaroobut it was working yesterday and i didn't touch anything12:55
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pixil9o.12:55
pixil9haha12:55
MachineScrewhmm12:56
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tahorglooks like evolution is still broken in breezy :)12:56
pixil9reseat it or something12:56
tomekkrusbjorn: meaby - but it should work anyway12:56
pixil9lol12:56
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Seveastahorg, broken in what way?12:56
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BurgundaviaMachineScrew, having used both, I would recommend ubuntu12:56
Puckarooand how do i do that12:56
MachineScrewI am just concerned about my WiFi12:56
tahorgSeveas: it doesn't install12:56
tahorg  evolution: Depends: libcamel1.2-3 (>= 1.2.2) but it is not going to be installed12:56
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tahorg             Depends: evolution-data-server (>= 1.2.1) but it is not going to be installed12:56
BurgundaviaMachineScrew, I would try the livecd12:56
BurgundaviaMachineScrew, the livecd and the install have the same hardware detection12:57
dazedMachineScrew: i got wifi on my laptop took some settingup but...damn its linux and its going to do that on any dist...so might as well be ubu12:57
tahorgI forced installation of libcamel1.2-3_1.2.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb12:57
tahorgbut it still yields at me12:57
tahorg  evolution-data-server: Depends: libcamel1.2-3 (>= 1.2.2) but it is not going to be installed12:57
Seveasthen just wait for it to be fixed :)12:57
caramboli want to go back to ubuntu as default...how to do that?12:57
tahorg(which is really strange)12:57
dazedtahorg: do apt-get -f install gets ur dependencies12:57
Burgundaviacarambol, in what program? grub?12:57
MachineScrewit was damned easy in FC it just works12:57
Seveasi'm sticking to hoary for the time being12:57
carambolyep12:57
tahorgdazed: already tried12:57
BurgundaviaMachineScrew, it should in Ubuntu as well12:57
dazedtahorg: hmmmm12:58
MachineScrewbut in SuSE it is a pain in the german ass12:58
carambolBurgundavia...iam in Breezy12:58
BurgundaviaMachineScrew, hardware detection cross-distro is odd12:58
Burgundaviacarambol, hmm, brave of you12:58
MachineScrewya that is what I am wondering12:58
carambol:) no probs sofar12:59
dazednot brave...its too new to have problems yet12:59
MachineScrewso the live ISO is the way to go for now12:59
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BurgundaviaMachineScrew, try the livecd, if it works there, it should work in the install12:59
dazedMachineScrew: id doo the full install12:59
carambolBurgundavia ..Grub,yep12:59
dazedlol12:59
MachineScrewok12:59
Burgundaviacarambol, hmm, dig in your menu.lst in /boot/grub01:00
carambolok01:00
MachineScrewwhat about unneeded progams and services01:00
IIIEarshm - cfdisk has created partitions 1,  , 3, 4, 5, - Why is that?01:00
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BurgundaviaMachineScrew, no open ports by default01:00
carambolso as evlm01:00
BurgundaviaMachineScrew, only one program for each task by default01:00
BurgundaviaMachineScrew, sudo by default01:00
MachineScrewI hate having to remove all the shit progs01:01
BurgundaviaMachineScrew, no installer by default01:01
Handymanhi. could any of you be so kind as to send me the init.d/sendmail-script please?01:01
ChoubakaHm.01:01
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ChoubakaGrub is confusing :(01:01
BurgundaviaMachineScrew, sorry, no compiler by default01:01
ChoubakaI wonder if there's a way to make splashy work with lilo01:01
IIIEarslol and i am new to linux - grin01:02
carambolif have install opera8...how to get it in the menu?01:02
carambolif=i01:02
tahorgChoubaka: why still use lilo ? grub is so better01:02
ChoubakaWhy is it better?01:02
MachineScrewdamn so how many pkgs (and dependencies) am I going to apt here after install01:02
ChoubakaLilo is a lot easier to use.01:02
tahorgChoubaka: it has a cli interface01:02
sobersabrehow can i import my mail from thunderbird into evolution ? is there a converter ?01:02
Burgundaviacarambol, look in the 3rd party tools on the ubuntu forums for a the menu editor01:03
Choubakatahorg: so?01:03
tahorgChoubaka: when you screw the config file, it still runs01:03
carambolok01:03
ChoubakaI don't understand crap about grub's config.01:03
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tahorgChoubaka: you don't stay stucked to a LI thingy01:03
MachineScrewman grub01:03
MachineScrewthen it will become clear01:03
MachineScrew(not)01:03
MachineScrewlol01:04
Choubakanot.01:04
tahorgChoubaka: it's not harder than lilo at all01:04
Choubakaok01:04
sobersabrehow can i extract mail from thunderbird into evolution ?01:04
IIIEarslol - man shows me everything i -can- do with it but it won't tell me what i should do. - rofl01:04
MachineScrewit realy isn't01:04
Choubakaso explain to me wtf is hd(0,1) and whatever.01:04
sobersabreChoubaka, it is /dev/hda201:04
MachineScrewhd is hard drive01:04
tahorg(hd0,1) == hda201:04
ChoubakaWhat's wrong with the traditional /dev/* system?01:05
MachineScrew0 is the first partion01:05
sobersabrehd(1,0) is /dev/hdb101:05
MachineScrewhell in FC its worse01:05
tahorgChoubaka: grub is compatible with lots of OS01:05
sobersabreChoubaka, traditional /dev/ naming sux.01:05
sobersabre:)01:05
Choubakaalso, hmm01:05
tahorgChoubaka: only linux uses the hda(x) naming01:05
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IIIEarsi have something up with the disk cfdisk didn't sequentially ordered partitions and omitted partition 2 in the numbering.01:05
sobersabreanybody: ideas on how can i extract mail from thunderbird into evolution ?01:06
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sobersabreexcept sending it over gmail.01:06
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no0ticI found this line on my boot log: localhost kernel: ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found!01:07
MachineScrewit dosn't matter about partition numbering it will work01:07
stazzmy firefox can't do the middle-mouse-paste-thingie, as in, if I have a link at clipboard, and press middlemouse to the html-rendering-area, it doesn't open it, why is this?01:07
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no0ticwhat does it mean?01:07
tahorgsobersabre: ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/(some_random_name)/Mail/Local Folders/01:07
Choubakahow can I pass an "hda=stroke" parameter with grub?01:07
Choubakalike I do with lilo with the "append" stanza01:08
sobersabretahorg, you mean cp ?01:08
sobersabre?!?!?!?!01:08
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tahorgsobersabre: there is an Inbox.sbd/Inbox IIRC which is mailbox formt01:08
matt1987hello can anyoen tell me how to insta winamp its a .bin file01:08
MachineScrewno0tic: thunderbird is posesed. actualy do you have Emulate 3rd button in your xorg.conf01:08
tahorgsobersabre: you can drag'n'drop it in evo01:08
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MachineScrewmatt: is winamp execuatble01:09
no0ticMachineScrew: I haven't asked that01:09
sobersabretahorg, i don't need inbox. it is on server. i need folders. so are they in the same format ?01:09
no0ticMachineScrew: I found this line on my boot log: localhost kernel: ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found!01:09
MachineScrewoh my bad01:10
sobersabrethere's mailbox, maildir etc. who is using which ?01:10
krusbjornno0tic: i think acpi is some laptop stuff - battery and thermal information, lid closure and stuff like that...i think :P01:10
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matt1987yes it is01:10
no0tickrusbjorn: I know, but in some way connected to processor?01:10
MachineScrewmatt then just run ./winamp.bin in a console01:10
tahorgsobersabre: mailbox is a big file with all the mails concatenated01:10
jbaileyno0tic: That's alright.01:10
no0tickrusbjorn: 'cause it has problem detecting cpu freq01:11
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jbaileyno0tic: If you're on a laptop, you can modify your DSDT table by placing it in a special place and it will get picked up.01:11
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Choubakahm01:11
jbaileyno0tic: That message is just saying that you haven't done that.01:11
MachineScrewwhere did you find the winamp.bin01:11
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MachineScrewwhat is it01:11
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MachineScrewcan't be winamp01:11
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ChoubakaWhy not?01:12
ChoubakaThere's a crappy pre-alpha winamp linux port that has been abandoned. :)01:12
MachineScrewI didn't think that winamp was made for linux01:13
sobersabretahorg, so ... how all your info helps me now ? :)01:13
IIIEarswhere is grub located?01:13
MachineScrewjust use XMMS01:13
no0ticjbailey: but it refers to cpu? it can be the reason why my cpu freq is not rightly detected?01:13
matt1987look on google :winamp for linux01:13
Choubakatahorg: can you help me?01:13
sobersabrei know where the email is stored on both programs. i don't want to cat & grep it manually.01:13
IIIEarser the configuration file...01:13
MachineScrewi di01:13
MachineScrewd01:13
Choubakahow do I give kernel parameters using grub?01:13
SeveasIIIEars, in /boot/grub and on the first 512 bytes of your harddik01:13
SeveasIIIEars, /boot/grub/menu.lst01:13
IIIEarsGreat! - Thanks :)01:13
tahorgChoubaka: winamp on linux is called xmms01:13
Seveastahorg, or beep01:14
Seveas(gnome xmms port)01:14
Choubakatahorg: ehh01:14
ChoubakaThere's a Winamp for Linux too01:14
tahorgSeveas: beep is gtk2 not gnome01:14
matt1987http://www.dawnload.net/alternative_platforms/linux_software/winamp_for_linux.cfm01:14
ChoubakaBut it's crappy, and it doesn't run.01:14
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eruinugh01:14
Choubakaso don't use it01:14
Seveastahorg, same difference ;)01:15
Choubaka:D01:15
eruinhow do I put the output of a command in a text file?01:15
eruin:-)01:15
ChoubakaSeveas: XMMS is for gnome too :p01:15
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Seveas(and yes i know the difference tahorg)01:15
Kreigerhokay01:15
Kreigeri BELIEVE hoary is up.01:15
tahorgSeveas:  xmms is gtk1.201:15
SeveasChoubaka, sure, all X apps run with gnome01:15
MachineScrewls > textfile.txt01:15
tahorgSeveas: it's as much a gnome app as beep :)01:15
Seveasah01:15
ChoubakaSeveas: XMMS was made using GTK 1.201:15
Seveasok, my bad01:15
Choubakaand Beep was made using GTK 2.001:15
Seveasstill, xmms is uglier than beep :)01:16
Choubakayes01:16
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MachineScreweruin did you get that01:16
ChoubakaBut more stable :P01:16
Choubakanow, I shall not use grub is someone isn't going to point me to documentation :(01:16
upseruin, cmd > file ;)01:16
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Choubakaor tell me how I can pass a kernel parameter using grub.01:16
MachineScrewdamn dude what do you need to no01:17
MachineScreww01:17
eruinthanks MachineScrew, ups ;-(01:17
SeveasChoubaka, add it on the kernel command line...01:17
eruin(supposed to be a smile)01:17
ups:)01:17
ChoubakaSeveas: What command line?01:17
MachineScrewok01:17
MachineScrewthe one with the kernel in it01:17
Seveasthe line that says kernel /boot/vmlinuz-something root=/dev/hdX01:17
ChoubakaAhh01:17
tahorgsobersabre: I have just tried tb, you should be able to import your folders in evo witout problems01:17
Choubakaright!01:17
MachineScrewya thats it01:17
Seveaschange it to kernel /boot/vmlinuz-something root=/dev/hdX YOUR_PARAM01:17
MachineScrewI am scared of Ubuntu I don't want another gentoo01:19
SeveasChoubaka: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-support.en.html01:19
Seveasthe docs :)01:19
tahorgand initrd /path/to/initrd01:19
Choubakaok.01:19
Choubakahmm01:19
MachineScrewI have been the hard way01:19
Choubakanow if I could access splashy wiki -_-01:19
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krusbjornmachinescrew: if you want to add the output of a command at the end of a textfile, what is the command then?01:19
MachineScrewI have had to manualy install pakages back in 9501:19
gooMachineScrew: I just switched from Gentoo, and Ubuntu is _no_gentoo_ :) Everything Just  Works [tm] 01:20
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MachineScrewI think it was Plug and Play Linux01:20
gookrusbjorn:  command >> textfile.txt01:20
krusbjornthanks goo01:20
steve_same here switch from gentoo this morning taken me a ew hours but got everything working as i had it under gentoo01:20
gookrusbjorn: beware:  only one >  will overwrite the file...01:21
MachineScrewI don't want to be downloading a gig of pkgs eather as it is under fedora I downloded 200mb of packages01:21
krusbjornnod, i noticed that. thats the reason i asked the latter question ;)01:21
no0ticwhere could be the reason why the kernel doesn't recognize correctly my cpu freq? warty's kernel was working...01:22
goosteve_: yeah, I had to make one symlink, move one apache config file and cp /usr/local/bin/* and off I went. Everything took less time than emerging 10% of ximian-openoffice, and it, well, Just Works [tm]  :) I am fairly impressed.01:22
tahorgno0tic: laptop ?01:22
no0tictahorg: yes01:22
MachineScrewwhat is the cpu01:23
IIIEars"" Kudos to the developers :)01:23
MachineScrewno0tic01:23
gooOnly annoying thing is not being able to paste urls into Firefox.01:23
seekerdoes anyone know how to *manually* edit the app menu under gnome?01:23
no0ticMachineScrew, tahorg : AMD Athlon XP 2800+01:23
tahorgseeker: you can't01:23
gooIIIEars: Totally :)01:23
no0ticMachineScrew, tahorg : max freq recognized 796Mhz01:23
MachineScrewwhat module is used01:23
seekertahorg, why not?01:23
no0ticMachineScrew, tahorg : powernow_k701:24
MachineScrewright01:24
tahorgseeker: sorry I thought you were talking about menu in applications01:24
seekerI am - application menu at the top of the screen...01:24
tahorgseeker: there used to be a applications:// in nautilus, but now I don't know :(01:24
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MachineScrewok on mine i just had to uncomment a line and now it gose from 250 to 2ghz01:24
IIIEarsSeeing the external already mounted and waiting for me on the desktop was a revelation - then my printer - nearly fell out of my chair. - and Ubuntu is fast01:25
no0ticMachineScrew: it scales normally but it doesn't show correct freq values01:25
MachineScrewhmm01:25
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seekerthe menu has some bugs. I can't make the changes through the edditor app under system tools, so I figured I might try it manually01:25
no0ticMachineScrew: I noticed it controlling temperature01:25
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MachineScrewwhat command are you running to find out its wrong01:26
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bluewheelon ppc when doing configure i get the following error, what package am i missing, i remember hearing it was something non standard01:26
bluewheel?01:26
bluewheelconfigure: error: Unable to find scrnsaver.h.01:26
lenovohello, everyone.01:26
no0ticMachineScrew: first, the panel applet01:26
MachineScrewok that i have01:26
MachineScrewits nice01:26
no0ticMachineScrew: in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq  files01:27
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MachineScrewwhat file do you look at01:28
wdhdoes anyone here have any experience getting an external harddrive working which is connected through the parallel port?01:28
no0ticMachineScrew: what line did you decomment?01:28
MachineScrewno0tic: do you have cpuspeed.conf01:28
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no0ticMachineScrew: in what di?01:29
no0ticMachineScrew: dir?01:29
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davuxhi :)01:29
MachineScrewin "/etc01:29
no0ticMachineScrew: not in /etc, I'm searching in subdir01:30
davuxWho should I tell about a problem in http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ ?01:30
no0ticMachineScrew: no01:30
davuxWhom*01:30
no0ticMachineScrew: I haven't a file named cpuspeed.conf01:30
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MachineScrewok see I am still wating on Ubuntu CDs i am going from Fedora and I have noticed that every one else dosn't use cpuspeed01:31
MachineScrewonly fedora01:31
krusbjorndavux: probably the webmaster of the official ubuntu webpage01:31
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MachineScrewhold on though I know where to find your soloution01:31
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davuxkrusbjorn: Do you know how I can contact her/him?01:31
MachineScrewwhat is the mfg and model of you LT01:32
IIIEarsdoes Ubuntu do CPU scaling? when the workload is higher?01:32
no0ticMachineScrew: thank a lot01:32
BazziIIIEars yes01:32
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BurgundaviaIIIEars, if the cpu supports it01:32
wdhdavux, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/feedback ??01:32
no0ticMachineScrew: Acer Aspire 1356LMi01:32
krusbjorndavus: my guess is someone in here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/feedback01:32
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krusbjorndavux* sorry01:33
davuxkrusbjorn, wdh: Thanks.01:33
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no0ticMachineScrew: could you please call me by nick? so I can read better our conversation :)01:33
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gooIIIEars: I don't remember wether or not powernowd (which does CPU scaling) was installed by default or not.01:34
petemcit is01:34
Burgundaviagoo, IIIEars it is and it is enabled by default01:34
no0ticgoo: on laptop it is01:34
Burgundaviaon all machines01:34
gooAllright, great :)01:35
krusbjorngoo: it was01:35
krusbjornoh, a bit late there ;P01:35
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goo:)01:36
davuxbye everybody :)01:36
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MachineScrewno0tic: http://flaez.ch/dab/aspire_1315lm.html seem to have a script that works for cpu throtaling for AMD XP01:37
no0ticMachineScrew: thanks a lot01:37
MachineScrewno0tice: scroll down and you will see ACPI01:38
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no0ticMachineScrew: I read, but it talks about powernowd, which is installed and started here...01:39
MachineScrewok01:39
MachineScrewno0tic: still looking for more01:39
sobersabretahorg, i don't understand. you have taken a tb mail folder and brought it into evo ?!?!01:40
queuetueDoes anyone know how I can get the Windows media Audio Voice Codec installed for totem?01:40
sobersabrehow did you do this ?01:40
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ChoubakaHmm01:43
Burgundaviaqueuetue, you need gstreamer-plugins01:43
ChoubakaBootsplash works now, but the VTYs become garbled.01:43
Burgundaviaqueuetue, which will get all the codecs/plugins you need01:43
nnonixqueu: install the marillat repository and apt-get install w32codecs01:43
tahorgsobersabre: my evo's broken01:43
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Burgundaviannonix, w32codecs is only for totem-xine01:43
ChoubakaI bet it's conflicting with the nvidia driver.01:44
nnonixworked for me01:44
tahorgsobersabre: in ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/(bla)/Mail/Local\ Folder/01:44
sobersabretahorg, WTF are you talking about ...01:44
sobersabrethanks, man01:44
tahorgsobersabre: you have all the folders you have created01:44
queuetueBurgundavia, It says already installed.  (trying to play xm radio online via firefox, usubng (I believe) totem plugin)01:44
tahorgsobersabre: named my_folder.sbd01:45
Burgundaviaqueuetue, then get totem-xine and the w32codecs01:45
queuetuennonix, I have w32codecs installed as well.01:45
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queuetuetotem-xine?01:45
sobersabrethis chat is so limited to express what i need to do. i have old mail in tb. i need this mail to be seen in evo. do you read me ?01:45
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tahorgsobersabre: inside there is a file named 'my_folder'01:45
sobersabretahorg, i have been to that folder.01:45
queuetueBurgundavia, Already installed.01:45
tahorgsobersabre: drag'n'drop this file inside evolution01:45
Burgundaviaqueuetue, then it should work01:46
queuetueBurgundavia, It doesn't ... What else could be missing?01:46
tahorgsobersabre: it should work, but I can't try for now, my evolution is broken01:46
queuetue"Totem could not play 'http://player.xmradio.com/hotstream/metafile.jsp?ch=null&speed=null&s=1113997586944&e=1113997601944&h=982f7ab7188465f8a80c9b7b839e0576'." - there is no plugin to handle this movie01:46
Burgundaviaqueuetue, confirmed totem-xine and w32codecs?01:46
no0ticMachineScrew: if you find something post it in pvt, coz I going away for a while...01:47
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Kreigerhow do i kill a process?01:47
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MachineScrewhttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_PowerNow!01:48
queuetueBurgundavia, Yes, I have.01:48
Burgundaviaqueuetue, hmm, odd01:48
krusbjornkreiger: either killall -9 <process> or run "xkill" and click the program01:48
Kreigerdanke01:48
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ChoubakaHmm.01:55
ChoubakaPerhaps I should compile a new kernel with vesafb-ng01:55
Choubakaor does Ubuntu already integrate that?01:55
queuetuetotem really seems pretty immature and flaky... Is there some other tool I could be using for this?01:56
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krusbjornfor what?01:57
Choubakaqueuetue: I don't think it's flaky... But you can try vlc01:57
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queuetueChoubaka, How do I get rid of the totem plugin, so they d not fight?  Do I have to uninstal it, or is there a switcher?01:58
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Burgundaviaqueuetue, vlc and xine are popular01:58
Choubakaahh, you want a plugin?01:58
Choubakahmm01:58
lizdeikawhats bad about totem ?01:58
krusbjorni use the mplayer plugin. works like a charm.01:59
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queuetuelizdeika, a) it's not playing what I want it to, and b, it feels unstable and flaky.01:59
KreigerAnybody having any trouble with the marilliat ftp?01:59
queuetuekrusbjorn, If I try to install mplayer, I get all kinds of conflicts.01:59
Kreigeri keep getting an internal server error01:59
Kreigerqueuetue, i have the same thing, my mplayer freezes if i try to play an mp3 file02:00
lizdeikaqueuetue: what exactly its not playing ?02:00
Kreigerxmms also02:00
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Kreigerit runs in totem tho02:00
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Fulganyone knows how to install hotkeys to a compaq laptop?????or where to find some docs ?02:01
queuetuelizdeika, in this case, an xm radio streaming broadcast.02:01
stuNNedugh, is there any way to force fsck at boot?02:01
queuetuelizdeika, But, mostly anything that isn't made specifically for playing in linux, I find totem can't play it.02:02
lizdeikaweird02:02
lizdeikadidnt try streaming but it plays avi,mpg,wmv,asf for me02:02
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IIIEarsque - any luck with adding decss to totem is it worht the effort?02:03
Xappequeuetue: i unpacked the essential codec pack from the mplayer site into ~/.gnome2/totem-addons02:03
Fulganyone knows how to install hotkeys to a compaq laptop?????or where to find some docs ?02:03
queuetueXappe, Tried that, didn't do a thing.02:03
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XandriXare there any founders of ubuntu present ?02:04
queuetueAnd 'There is no plugin to handle this movie" sucks as an error message - what codec does it want?02:05
BurgundaviaXandriX, I am not one, but what do you wish to know02:05
XandriXIf ubuntu would accept to sponsor lightly my company cu zi am packaging machines and servers with ubuntu i should be recieving my cds soon02:06
lizdeikaqueuetue: must agree with you about error msg :)02:06
BurgundaviaXandriX, you would want to email jdub about that02:06
Kreigerlizdeika, i can't even PLAY anything in anyhing but xmms02:06
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Kreigeri mean totem02:06
Kreigerargh02:07
Kreigerno02:07
Kreigersleep02:07
XandriXBurgundavia, can u pm me his email02:07
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XandriXjdub, u there ?02:07
IIIEarsBah - Krieger sleep is for people without an internet connection - lol02:07
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KreigerWell, i'd LIKE to be able to play movies or something02:08
Kreigerthis is very, very very annoying02:08
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Lemonzestanyone know if the nvidia nforce drivers work on horey?02:08
lizdeikado you have w32codecs ?02:08
BurgundaviaKreiger, have you installed gstreamer-plugins? or w32codecs for totem-xine02:08
KreigerLemonzest, i installed them02:08
BurgundaviaLemonzest, yes, I believe they do02:08
XandriXBurgundavia, can u pm me his email plz02:08
KreigerBurgundavia, i apt-got them both02:09
ChoubakaWhy is it few people seem to be able to spell Hoary correctly? :D02:09
Kreigerwhorey02:09
Kreigerlol02:09
IIIEars"" - i hunted around for decss found it and then becuase i am too new to linux couldn't figure out how to install it. - sigh.02:09
BurgundaviaXandriX, he is frequently in here or in #ubuntu-devel I woudl ask there first02:09
Lemonzesti normaly call it all Bunty :P02:09
lizdeikai like Breezy as name02:10
Lemonzesthow do i get firefox 1.03? last time i looked it wasnt on02:10
Kreigerburgun, i DID have all of the repositories open. perhaps i installed some borked versions?02:10
BurgundaviaKreiger, shouldn02:10
XandriXBurgundavia, hes nto there02:10
BurgundaviaXandriX, keep trying02:10
IIIEarsIs "borked" the technical terminology? - grin02:10
KreigerIIIEars, yes.02:11
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gorilla_IIIEars, yes it is :-)02:11
KreigerBorked is not broken, borked is not yet fixed02:11
IIIEarsheh02:11
lizdeikaaka "totally f***d up" :)02:11
KreigerNo, Broken is when something is dead02:11
Kreigerborked means it's under construction02:11
Kreigeri guess02:11
KreigerAnyway, i'd LIKE to play my music in something besides totem02:12
Kreigermy porn would also be nice02:12
Kreiger<_<02:12
lizdeikamusic ?02:12
KreigerYes02:12
KreigerMusic02:12
lizdeikatotem is not for music02:12
KreigerWell, it's what playes it02:12
Kreigerplays*02:12
Kreigernothing else plays my mp3's02:12
Kreigereverything freezes02:12
Fab_xmms does02:12
Fulganyone knows how to install hotkeys to a compaq laptop?????or where to find some docs ?02:12
queuetuethen why does it keep trying to be my music player?02:12
Kreigertried it. it freezes it, fab_02:12
Kreigeri have to xkill02:12
krusbjornkreiger: i guess you tried rhythmbox and muine too?02:13
Fab_esd/alsa/jack/ ?02:13
Burgundaviaqueuetue, borked choices in gnome02:13
KreigerI didn't try those, no.02:13
Kreigerhow do i switch?02:13
Kreigerkrusbjorn, no. i have not.02:13
krusbjornrhythmbox is already there, just run it and pray02:13
Fab_system -> settings -> multimedia02:13
IIIEarsstreamtuner (repository) and xmms even records to mp3s - (going to need a new disk soon- lol)02:13
Kreigeri have rhythmbox not02:14
Fab_kreiger: although i have to admit sound under linux can be quite tricky ;)02:14
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Kreigernvm02:14
Kreigerlol02:14
XandriXBurgundavia, hes not there as in like honeymoon02:14
IIIEarsit is reminiscent of windows 3.102:14
b0olcan someone tell me where i can find the mkdev.sh ?02:14
BurgundaviaXandriX, indeed, the man just got married02:14
wdhFulg, system -> prefs -> shortcuts ?02:14
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wdhFulg, system -> prefs -> Keyboard shortcuts ?02:15
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IIIEarsyou have to cross your fingers and hold your mouth just right for everything to work02:15
queuetueSound and printing under linux are both still pure voodoo.02:15
Kreigerhuh02:15
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KreigerWell, it is quite possible because the mp3's are on an ntfs drive02:15
Kreigerbut totem plays them quite well02:15
Kreigerwhich is odd02:15
b0olcan someone tell me where i can find the mkdev.sh ?02:15
gordonjcpqueuetue: nonsense02:16
lizdeikawhats that ?02:16
lizdeikab0ol: whats that ?02:16
b0ola file which belongs to the lm-sensors source02:16
Kreigerhrm02:16
Kreigerwhat's a good place to store my music?02:16
krusbjorn~/Music?02:17
lizdeika:))02:17
Kreigeri mean, in media?02:17
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Kreigeror in /usr/?02:17
kyneshi02:17
goldfishhrmm...02:17
IIIEarsi like a external fat32 USB drive02:17
XappeKreiger: so, did you choose esd as output for the other players you tried?02:17
goldfishhaha02:17
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KreigerNo. i did not.02:17
Kreigerhow do i do that?02:17
goldfishI have mine on a fat32 external hd funnily enough :)02:17
kynesI have a problem in ubuntu02:17
krusbjorngoldfish: likewise ;P02:17
Fulgwell wdh ,02:17
Fulgit works02:17
Fulg:D02:17
goldfishhehe02:18
XappeKreiger: in xmms it's in the options02:18
kyneson intel pentium centrino 1.6 ghz02:18
queuetuegordonjcp, Pure voodoo - nonsense or not,  It works, as if by magic, and it stops just as easily.  No one knows how to make it work, but they have long arcane steps that sometimes makes stuff happen, or "it just works" but no one can diagnse a problem of any kind...02:18
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IIIEarseasy to move tunes around - nas would be better but $$$ - :/02:18
kynesit HEATS UP..02:18
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kynesit's a laptop02:18
queuetueDoes anyone here *really* understand linux audio to the point where they could debug a serious problem?  (If so, why do they never answer when I ask?)02:19
kynesI'm using centrino for a while, like 4-5 months or so.. and I now it's normal temperature02:19
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kynesand it doesn't look normal to mme02:19
kyneswhat can I do?02:19
lizdeikachekc the cooling ?02:19
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kyneswhere to check?02:19
queuetueDoes anyone here *really* understand cups to the point where they could debug a serious problem, or set up a printer by hand?  If so, I could use some help getting a network printer working. :)02:20
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wdhFulg, congrats :)02:20
Xappehehe02:20
queuetueIn my exerience, both of these things are just "black magic".02:20
gordonjcpqueuetue: well, what is the audio problem you're having?02:20
Fab_queuetue: same for me, need printer that is connected to networked winME computer02:20
wdhqueuetue, /join #cups :)02:21
KreigerXappe, i get this02:21
Kreiger** WARNING **: alsa_setup(): Failed to open pcm device (default): Device or resource busy02:21
queuetuegordonjcp, currently, karts dies so kde has no audio, ut2004 has no audio becaus eit cannot open /dev/dsp.02:21
gordonjcpqueuetue: can you get any sound at all?02:21
Kreigernothing else is using my sound card that i know of...02:21
queuetuewdh, I've never seen a reponse in there, but I'll try again later today.02:21
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XappeKreiger: even with esd output enabled?02:21
kyneswhere to check cooling options???02:21
KreigerYes02:21
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carlosgood day02:21
carlosvenezuela presente!!!02:21
queuetuegordonjcp, Sure, like I said, it's ranodm - the ubuntu annoying sounds (menu WHUMP and click THUMP and starup BLA BLAH BLAH BLAH all work.)02:22
gordonjcpqueuetue: hm02:22
KreigerI wonder if something didn't get killed completely02:22
Kreigeris there a way to check if something is stomping on the souncard?02:22
Fab_queuetue: my sound with gnome works with esd, but not with alsa, lol02:22
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XappeKreiger: maybe you should choose esd as default sink (system --> preferences --> multimedia systems selector)02:23
queuetueFab_, Yes, it's all pure voodoo, with 30 different technologies and setting combinations.02:23
Lare2q? how to copy all files from one folder to another from the terminal02:23
plagerismWhats the new testing branch of Ubuntu??02:23
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Kreigeresd is the defauly output02:23
wdhplagerism, breezy02:23
Kreigert02:23
plagerismwdh, is it available yet??02:24
XappeKreiger: ok02:24
Kreigeryeah, esd is the default sink02:24
wdhplagerism, afaik it is..02:24
krusbjornlare2: cp ./* /destination folder/02:24
wdhplagerism, but you should check the website for that02:24
XappeKreiger: and esd is running too?02:24
Lare2Thanks krusbjorn02:24
krusbjornlare2: assuming you are in the source folder02:24
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Lare2right02:24
Lare2thanks for helping02:24
krusbjornnp :)02:25
lesshasteis it possible to upgrade from redhat to ubuntu without a CD/USB device etc?02:25
kynessomeone having ubuntu on centrino?????02:25
lesshasteI.e. just over the network02:25
KreigerYeah, i tested it in the systems selector, and i had noise02:25
plagerismlesshaste, checkout chroot!02:25
Kreigerhere is something odd02:25
Kreigerwhen i run apt-get dist-upgrade, i get this on some repositories02:26
KreigerErr http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main gaim 1:1.2.1-1~5.04ubp102:26
Kreiger  500 Internal Server Error02:26
Kreigeranybody else get that?02:26
lesshasteplagerism, once I chroot then what?02:26
plagerismlesshaste, I dunno02:26
lesshasteplagerism, eh? :)02:26
lizdeikaKreiger: report to ubuntuforums02:26
Fab_kreiger: backports down again02:26
Fab_i did already report do jdong02:26
Fab_to*02:26
MrM__kynes: i have fc2 on a centrino (new one) and it works perfectly with the ipw2100 driver. i suppose it should be the same with ubuntu02:27
KreigerSo, i have to play my music in totem? lol02:27
Kreigermaybe i should restart, i did upgrade somethings02:27
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krusbjornkreiger: try restarting X anyway...02:28
KreigerYeah02:29
Kreigerctr+alt+backspace, here i come02:29
Kreigerbrb02:29
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lesshasteumm... where do I find the install instructions for 5.0.4?02:30
krusbjornlesshaste: you probably dont need any :P its an easy installer02:30
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wdhplagerism, good luck :)02:31
lesshastekrusbjorn, but from what source? Is everyone just burning a CD?02:31
wdhplagerism, whats your rationale to do so?02:31
ctrctrl02:31
ctrit is ctrl02:31
lesshastekrusbjorn, surely there should be instruction for net install etc?02:31
plagerismwdh, I was getting bored02:31
ctrif you type ctr, it notfies me that someone is talking to me :)02:31
krusbjornlesshaste: download the iso and burn a cd is probably your best bet :)02:31
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zoldarhello all02:31
wdhplagerism, i understand what you mean :)02:31
lesshastekrusbjorn, except I can't do that. I need a net insatll02:31
wdhplagerism, i never get any updates anymore..02:31
wdhmy ISP must be wondering what happened :)02:32
krusbjornlesshaste: you on wart now, or another distro/OS?02:32
plagerismwdh, I know and I lost that update excitement02:32
lesshastekrusbjorn, another one02:32
krusbjornwarty*02:32
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lesshastekrusbjorn, I want to change to krus02:32
lesshastekrusbjorn, to Ubuntu :)02:32
zoldardoes anybody know how to 'add' some certain charset support to evolution ? ie. windows-125002:32
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XandriXBurgundavia, hes not there adn id rly rly apreciate his email plz pm it to me02:33
krusbjornlesshaste: unless there is any info on net install on the site, i guess you cant do that. either get to burn the CD someway, or order one for free :)02:33
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Fab_krus: i think he doesnt have a cd device02:34
lesshastekrusbjorn, strange...how can I order one for free? Do I have to live in Bush's JesusLand for that?02:34
lesshasteFab_, exactly :)02:34
Fab_shipit.ubuntu.com or something02:34
Fab_but they can take some time02:35
krusbjornlesshaste: nah, but i live in sweden and ordered a couple of CD:s 2 weeks ago. havent arrived yet, but i guess they are on their way02:35
Fab_or rather, they DO take some time02:35
lesshastewho pays for this free stuff?02:35
krusbjornlesshaste: canonical inc02:35
kentkrusbjorn, they seem to take some time. I heard on #ubuntu that warty took a long time to arive if you ordered the CDs.02:35
kentkrusbjorn, btw, you do know about the swedish channel on #ubuntu.se right?  Coolest idle-place in town!02:36
gorilla_lesshaste, ubuntu have a sponsor Canonical... at them moment they are getting plenty of free publicity so it's worth a few cds :-)02:36
krusbjornkent: haha, cool.- havent been there. gonna check it out :D02:36
XandriXBurgundavia, well i left him a message02:36
lesshastegorilla_, interesting.. thx02:36
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lesshasteordered.. a strange world of free cds :) !02:37
Fab_lesshaste: but i guess you could install on another computer and then deploy it or something02:38
krusbjorndemanded?02:38
lesshasteFab_, yes.. I just find it odd that there is no standard net install. Normally distros have one (IMHO)02:38
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danthemanis there a way to run a nautilus file viewer as su? or how would i change permissions on my external hard drive02:39
dantheman?02:39
krusbjornsudo nautilus ?02:40
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Fab_dantheman: what krus said02:40
zoldargksudo ?02:40
danthemanoh...well, there i have it, then02:40
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Fab_lesshaste: well, it seems that ubuntu doesnt provide a netinstall :( id like one too02:40
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lesshasteFab_, strangely on #ubuntu-devel I am hearing the opposite!02:41
gorilla_lesshaste, perhaps not documented?02:41
danthemanwell, apparently even running sudo nautilus, i don't have permission to move the file to my hard drive02:42
Fab_lesshaste: thats cool02:42
Fab_dantheman: is it mounted rw or ro? ;)02:42
lesshasteI am hoping I will get another syllable out of the person at #ubuntu-devel02:42
lesshasteSo far I have got one syllable :)02:42
krusbjorndantheman: is it ntfs-formatted?02:42
danthemani'm not sure at all02:42
krusbjorndantheman: is it a "window sharddrive"? ;)02:42
krusbjornwindows*02:42
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danthemani'm looking in the properties window, and it gives me an error when i try to enable write, but i don't see anything about windows on it02:43
lesshastedantheman, are you mounting a windows partition?02:43
Fab_well, do a mount -l02:43
danthemannope02:44
krusbjorndantheman: i mean, has it been used with a Window system?02:44
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danthemanyes02:44
Fab_dan: did you format it using windows?02:44
zoldaris there some other way of adding sepcific collation set to the mysql than compiling it right from the beginning ?02:44
krusbjorndantheman: you know,m if it is ntfs you cant writ to it02:44
JuNkPhreak|UnIxcan anyone tell me why the run levels are changed in kubuntu ?02:44
danthemanyes, FAT32, i believe02:44
JuNkPhreak|UnIxi cant change the inittab to 3 for cli02:44
krusbjorndantheman: good02:44
da_bon_bonhow do i play "RIFF (little-endian) data, wrapped MPEG-1 (CDXA)" data on linux ? xine wont play it, with all plugins installed :(02:44
lesshasteda_bon_bon, mplayer?02:44
lesshasteda_bon_bon, xmms?02:45
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Fab_junkfreak: run level 2 is default02:45
JuNkPhreak|UnIxjunkphreak02:45
Fab_w.e.02:45
da_bon_bonlesshaste: it is a video file. plays in windows media player. wont work in xine.02:45
JuNkPhreak|UnIxwhy cant it be changed02:45
JuNkPhreak|UnIx?02:45
lesshasteda_bon_bon, try mplayer02:45
JuNkPhreak|UnIxonly gui for ubuntu ?02:45
lesshasteda_bon_bon, does it have a url?02:45
Fab_dan: look at the output of 'mount -l' and tell us if you see one or more lines with vfat02:46
da_bon_bonlesshaste: mplayer = xine :( coz all plugins are installed02:46
da_bon_bonlesshaste: no. its on a cd02:46
lesshasteda_bon_bon, mplayer != xine :)02:46
lesshasteda_bon_bon, try mplayer and tell me the error message02:46
da_bon_bonlesshaste: ok. i will need to install mplayer first :)02:46
Fab_mplayer != xine -> true02:46
da_bon_bonFab_: how ?02:46
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Choubaka:p02:47
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tsume_I can't believe some people02:47
mirakhi02:47
mirakhi02:47
lesshastehi02:47
lesshastehi02:47
da_bon_bonlesshaste: it will take a lot of time. coz on my 2kbps , mplayer wil ltake hoursss to dnld02:47
tsume_they think java is better than other languages02:47
ChoubakaBecause xine is a completely different piece of software.02:47
tsume_and thier reason behind it is, they don't care about CPU :P02:47
danthemancan anyone tell me how to set something up so that i can write to my external hard drive?02:47
tsume_lol02:47
lesshasteda_bon_bon, oops.. that is true.. xine is sort of.. well.. crap :)02:47
mirakis the ubuntu hoary x86 live cd known to work on microsoft virtual pc02:47
Fab_da_bon_bon: what how?02:47
mirak?02:47
krusbjorndantheman: is it mounted rw?02:47
lesshastewhat ho02:47
da_bon_bonlesshaste: ok. whatever u say. i will try ,mplayer02:47
da_bon_bonFab_: why is xine != mplayer ?02:47
lesshasteda_bon_bon, whatever I say? :)02:47
Fab_because its not the same software Oo02:48
danthemannope...when i click to enable write, it gives me an error, saying it's read-only02:48
da_bon_bonlesshaste: whatever u say "is true" :)02:48
lesshasteda_bon_bon, wow! :)02:48
Fab_dantheman: you need to mount it rw then02:48
Fab_dan: look at the output of mount -l please for the line(s) containing vfat02:48
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danthemanoh shit....it's ntfs02:49
danthemanwell, i gotta fix that02:49
trygvebwHi, which packages does build-essential contain?02:49
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wdhtrygvebw, apt-cache show build-essentials02:51
trygvebwthanks :)02:51
Fab_dantheman: you might think of formating it to fat32 or ext (youll lose your data toh)02:51
danthemani'll reboot into windows later today, pull everything off, reformat it fat32, and put everything back on02:51
krusbjorndantheman: if you want to be able to use it both with linux and windows, you better go for fat32 ;)02:51
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krusbjornfat32 cant store more than 9999 files, right?02:52
Seveasnot right02:52
Xappe_damn, the power went down...02:52
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Fab_krus: i think there is a limit like that, yes, also the file size is pretty limited02:52
Seveasfilesize is limited to 4GB02:53
danthemanwell, luckily i don't have any dvd iso's or anything, so it shouldn't be a problem02:53
petemcfat32 can have more than 9999 files02:53
krusbjornsaveas: that cant be correct02:53
krusbjornsaveas: i have a 40gb FAT32 drive02:53
petemcit can have 6500002:53
krusbjornahh sorry02:54
Seveaskrusbjorn, the drive can be bigger...02:54
krusbjornmisunderstood that02:54
Seveasthe files on it can't be bigger than 4gb each02:54
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krusbjornnod, i understood that eventually ;) sorry02:54
lesshasteda_bon_bon, where are you that you are still on 2kbps?02:54
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Kreigeram i correct in thinking that if you sudo something, it stays for a little while?02:55
Kreigersudo and enter pw02:55
krusbjornkreiger: yeah02:55
bwlangKreiger: yep02:55
Kreigerhow do you cancel that02:55
Kreigerso you need to enter the password again, i mean02:55
bwlangKreiger: log off and log back on... there's probably a preference in sudo's config too.02:56
Kreigeri'm pretty sure there is a command02:56
Kreigeri remember there being one02:56
Xappe_gah, I have a ghost nick02:56
lesshasteda_bon_bon, also... can you rip a 1MB and send it to me?02:56
Fab_timeout in sudo config i think02:56
krusbjornkreiger: i think you can set the time for sudo to last, but i dont remembe where the config file is :P02:56
Fab_timeout=002:57
KreigerYeah, but i could have SWORN there was a specific command02:57
bwlangKreiger: sudo  -K02:57
KreigerDanke02:57
bwlangKreiger: have you never heard of man ;P02:57
KreigerI am one, beyond that, no02:57
Kreiger:)02:58
Kreigerj/k02:58
Kreigeri'm just tired, and forgot02:58
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Fab_kreiger: that danke was funny ;)02:59
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lesshastecan anyone see the maps at http://maps.google.co.uk/ in firefox? I don't see a thing apart from a couple of empty boxes02:59
KreigerI see it03:00
bwlanglesshaste: i see england when i go there...03:00
KreigerI see london, i see france03:00
KaptainMooAye, works for me too.03:00
bwlanglesshaste: actually ireland, scotland and wales too (doh!)03:00
Fab_i see a lot of images loading, lol03:01
da_bon_bonlesshaste: india. cable net. with the cable modem ;) actually, i do have option for higher speed plans, but they cost more mony, which i dont have/.03:01
lesshasteok.. I must have some block on .. weird :)03:01
lesshasteda_bon_bon, so 2kbps over cable! :)03:01
Fab_lesshaste: adblock, proximitron?03:01
lesshasteyes.. got adblock03:01
lesshastewhat is proximitron?03:02
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Fab_proxy with some filter options03:02
Fab_try disabling adblock03:02
IIIEarshm - works for me proxomitron is cool! :)03:02
fgxhello, having big problems with firefox crashing every minute03:02
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xeroxHi!03:02
Fab_fgx: any extensions, xcompmgr on?, ati/nvidia/something else?03:03
xeroxHow do I get printf/c-header's function manpages on ubuntu ??03:03
Fab_fgx: random, or always?03:03
Fab_fgx: on specific sites i mean03:03
da_bon_bonlesshaste: true03:03
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occyHey guys... stupid question alert:   If I've been using windows on a machine for like 3 or 4 weeks with no lock-up, and whenever I use Linux, it seems to lock up.  (Same computer, different hard drives), that must simply mean the Linux box has a bad hard drive.03:04
fgxFab_, it seems it crashes when refocusing after i worked on anoyher app03:04
occyerrr s/Linux Box/Linux installation/03:04
fgxFab_, but it happens for specific sites, example: repubblica.it03:04
xeroxok it was manpages-dev03:05
xeroxbye.03:05
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fgxFab_, not always. it behave like a buffer overfl prob.03:05
lesshastethe problem was javascript03:05
Fab_fgx: can you answer the first questions i posed?03:05
fgxFab_, no extension. only java, flash and helix plugin03:06
b0olhow can i tell my ubuntu to load athcool at boot?03:06
fgxFab_, using radeon X module03:06
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Fab_fgx: did you try other gecko browser like galeon or epiphany, or a new profile03:07
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bwlangb0ol: it probably already has put some scripts into /etc/init.d - look at the list of file that it installed with dpkg -L athcool03:07
b0ol/etc/init.d/athcool03:08
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fgxFab_, no. i'll try.03:08
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occyany reason why Ubuntu would be locking up computers?03:09
occyMy friend has had the same problem I have been having.03:09
b0olbwlang how to tell now that it shall run on      startup?03:09
Xappehardware problems?03:09
bwlangoccy: i don't think there is some universal bug... maybe your hardware is not well supported.  try with acpi off03:09
lesshasteoccy, at what stage?03:09
lesshasteoccy, more details needed please :)03:09
occylesshaste: I can get a lock-up doing anything CPU intensive.03:10
occyyeah, sorry...03:10
lesshasteoccy, complete lock up? Does num-lock work?03:10
occyit doesn't seem like I'm really doing anything in particular.03:10
lesshasteoccy, hardware?03:10
bwlangb0ol: assuming that athcool has put files in /etc/init.d  you can use update-rc.d to specify when it should be run (man update-rc.d)03:10
occyI'm running Windows on the same computer...03:10
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occywith no problems.  (scary huh?)03:10
occydifferent hard drives though03:10
lesshasteoccy, is the lockup complete? Does num-lock work? Is there anything in the logs afterwards?03:11
occyit might simply be the hard drive.03:11
occylesshaste: Don't know exactly... I've not used it for a while.  I'll test that if it happens again.03:11
b0olthanx bwlang03:11
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bwlangoccy: linux uses more  hardware than windows does... often you don't find bad ram in windows but do in windows.  a hard drive failure would not totally lock the os - you'd still have access to some stuff03:11
bwlangoccy: could also be a heat issue.03:11
lesshasteoccy, ok... if it is a complete lockup with nothing in the logs you should try swapping drives and also memtest8603:12
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occy:/03:12
occyk, thanks guys.  I'll give it a whirl.03:12
occydo the memtest86 too03:12
lesshasteoccy, good luck03:12
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deadzedhow do I change ubuntu language?03:13
deadzedeven telinit 1 is in my native lang now .. want it to be english03:13
bizkittry changing the locale?03:13
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Fab_is it normal that a networked printer (connected to winME pc) shows hell a lot of dll files when connecting to it via TkSmb03:16
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Fab_i can open it like a shared directory and see lots of files03:17
lesshasteoccy, still here?03:17
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Shuflahello world...03:17
Shufla...domination :D03:17
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occyyah03:18
lesshasteoccy, can I pm you re: your problem?03:19
occyargh... no net connection.  can't apt-get install memtest8603:19
de_Dustycitihi guys.. Could someone tell me if there's anyway I can install Ubuntu 5.04 onto hdd with Live CD ?03:19
occysure03:19
occy:D03:19
Fab_occy: isnt memtest86 installed by default?03:19
krusbjornde_Dustyciti: you probably should download the Install CD to install to HD03:19
Shuflaoccy: huh? no net connection and you are on irc? yoda-eth0? :D03:20
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occyShufla: heh, another machine :P~03:20
NetwrkMonkeyis there a guid for configuring an lvm setup when installing ubuntu?03:20
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Shuflaoccy: hm. route added on that machine?>03:21
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ShuflaNetwrkMonkey: guide to use ubuntu installer's or to good setup of lvm?03:21
NetwrkMonkeysetting up lvm during the ubuntu install03:21
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occyShufla: ACX111 54Mbps Wireless Interface no workie with Linux.03:22
SiRrUsgood morning03:22
ShuflaNetwrkMonkey: just choose default partition setup03:22
occy:(03:22
Shuflaoccy: ouch :(03:22
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paulproteusShufla: That's not entirely accurate.03:22
NetwrkMonkeyshufla, that's a poor answer03:22
occyACX = the suxx0r03:22
paulproteusYou can use ndiswrapper, or the acxpci driver that doesn't support WEP.03:23
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paulproteusI'm using NDIS WARPER [sic]  here.03:23
Shuflapussfeller: ??03:23
Shuflaehhh03:23
Shuflabut i didn't understand what netwrkmonkey wanted...03:23
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Shuflatfu03:24
pussfeller?03:24
Shuflas/default/custom03:24
krusbjornanyone know if i can set Gaim to autologin to IRC-channels at login?03:24
pussfellerdon't you read ian fleming?03:24
Fab_acx sucks03:24
Fab_really03:24
occykrusbjorn: #gaim?03:24
Shuflapussfeller: sorry :>03:25
Fab_acx111 doesnt even support wep afaik03:25
Shuflapaulproteus: what wasn't accurate?03:25
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occyFab_: it's a shame Netgear would sell such crap.03:25
krusbjornoccy: ?03:25
occykrusbjorn: /join #gaim03:25
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occyheh03:25
Fab_occy: dlink here ;)03:25
occyWell, the big racket is... They give you these discounts...03:26
Fab_but acx100 :)03:26
occyand so I bought the card.03:26
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krusbjornoccy: i mean, can i make gaim join this channel automatically, when i startup gaim?03:26
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occyAnd then when I find out it won't work, I can't take it back because of the rebates.03:26
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occyit's a suck all around.03:26
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Fab_occy: indeed03:27
karljpis there anything special I should do for rolling my own kernel beyond http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.en.html03:27
karljpor is that process goign to be just fine for ubuntu as well?03:27
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paulproteusShufla: When occy said that ACX111 wouldn't work, that wasn't accurate.03:28
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occypaulfox: it works under Windows, but that doesn't help me any.03:29
karljpI know I should normally just be happy with apt-get install linux-68603:30
karljpbut I need the -ac patches for my hardware,03:30
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flipyhi03:31
krusbjornhello flipsy03:31
krusbjornflipy* :P03:31
flipyxDDD03:31
flipyit seemed like tipsy03:31
flipyxDDD03:31
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flipyis there any way to have cam support under msn protocol?03:32
ChoubakaHmm.03:32
ChoubakaThere's gaim-av03:32
Choubakabut you have to compile it yourself :/03:32
flipyuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhm03:33
flipydoesn't seem a good solution then...03:33
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flipythanks anyway03:33
krusbjornflipy: there's vv-gaim, but they dont have msn support atm...will have later though03:33
mbhello03:34
flipyoh03:34
mbiyews03:34
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mbkismet problem03:34
mbcan you helpme??03:34
ChoubakaHmm.03:35
ChoubakaHow do I configure my printer?03:35
ChoubakaI don't have Gnome, so I need to know the name of the program I have to run.03:35
ShuflaChoubaka: Sys->Adm->Printing?03:35
flipyskype will work?03:35
flipywell, I've class03:35
flipysee you later03:35
ChoubakaShufla: what's the name of that program?03:35
ShuflaChoubaka: gnome-cups-manager03:36
Choubakapl03:36
Choubakaok*03:36
Choubakathanks.03:36
Shuflam/[03:36
Shuflan/p :>03:36
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Choubakawell, that was easy.03:37
Choubakatwo mouse clicks :P03:37
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mbany one know how to configure thekismet withe smc2835w?03:38
mbok03:39
EddieXHmm i got a new submenu under "Program" in gnome that is called Debian, how come ? It appeared today03:40
mbi look in the my oncle google03:40
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ShuflaEddieX: huh. dpkg -l menu03:40
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black_Nightmarehey once again ;)03:41
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EddieXShufla, ok03:41
EddieXYep, that was there :) Thanks03:42
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it4ngoand free peach too03:43
it4ngooups free speech03:43
Shuflafunnny..03:43
Echylolel03:43
gorilla_pass me a peach :-)03:43
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Shuflai've just mounted cleanly unmounted suse partition, and it gives me some info about rebuilding fs...03:44
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Choubakahmm03:44
Choubakathe printer doesn't work03:44
Choubakaapparently it's trying to set the device as /dev/unknown-parallel003:44
Choubakawhich does not exist03:44
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Saint33hi folks...03:45
Lare2hi03:45
Lare2people03:45
Saint33Could someone please help me with ndiswrapper setup, need a windows driver and cannot find one...03:45
ShuflaSaint33: on cd with eq?03:45
Saint33eq ??03:46
seekerI can't seem to log on to skype, I tried reinstalling it and renewing my password, but it keep telling login failed. any idea?03:46
Shuflawith your card...03:46
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Saint33Shufla: the actual card driver doesnt work with ndiswrapper (says so on website), only the actual WinXP driver from Microsoft works and I dunno where to get that from03:47
jinhow can I check which version of gtk+ is installed?03:47
snowblinkSaint33, what card do you have?03:47
Shuflajin: dpkg -l | grep gtk03:47
Choubakagah03:47
Choubakanow it works03:47
Saint33I have an Marvell W8300 wi-fi card03:48
ChoubakaI made a symbolic link from unknown-parallel to lp003:48
ShuflaChoubaka: maybe it will be easier to type /dev/lp0 with gnome-cups-manager03:48
Choubakamakes me wonder why it thought it was /dev/unknownparallel0 in the first place03:49
ChoubakaShufla: type? :p03:49
Choubakahow can I type anything with it03:49
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krusbjornjin: i guess you could check it in synaptic?03:49
Shuflatype in gnome-cups-manager03:50
krusbjornjin: oh sorry, didnt see shufla answered :P03:50
Saint33snowblink: any idea how to get a driver from Microsoft ?03:50
karljpis there any reason I'd want to get kernel source from a ubuntu package, rather than from kernel.org?03:50
Twiggykarljp:  Pre-patched03:50
jinI need to install gtk+ version above 2.4, can anyone tell me how?03:50
Shuflakarljp: is there any reason you'd want kernel source? and from ubuntu package better :D03:51
snowblinkSaint33, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/List03:51
Twiggykarljp:  I use the ubuntu source for the stuff they toss in there03:51
ChoubakaShufla: I did.03:51
ChoubakaBut gnome-cups-manager detects it wrongly.03:51
karljpwhat stuff are they tossing in?03:52
Shuflajin: try www.apt-get.org03:52
snowblinkSaint33, did you try google before asking here?03:52
karljpI need the -ac patches for some of my hardware, otherwise I'd never bother trying to make my own kernel03:52
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karljpand I'm having a hard time working out how to get -ac patches onto ubuntu03:53
karljpI apt-get source'd the linux-source-2.6.1103:53
Saint33snowblink: yep, google, yahoo and microsoft... no joy... can only find Asus' own driver which dont work03:53
karljpand then tried to patch with the ac7 patch from kernel.org, but it failed.03:53
Shuflakarljp: are you familiar with kernel-package for debian?03:54
snowblinkSaint33, Try the win98 drivers03:54
karljpvaguely03:54
karljpI'm sort of going by http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelHowto03:54
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karljpwhich uses make-kpkg03:54
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karljpbut it uses the kernel.org source,03:55
Saint33snowblink: from the Asus driver collection ?03:55
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snowblinkSaint33, does it include a 98 driver?03:56
iGamappl need some help. how do i use powernowd ? i have a laptop, and i dont what it 2 run at 100% , i what the max to be 80% is it possile?03:56
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Saint33yes... I thought ndiswrapper only worked with xp drivers tho03:56
iGamait heat ups lot :s03:56
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Saint33but will tyr03:56
Shuflaok03:56
Shuflagoing home,. bye bye03:56
jinanyone that knows a good working dc++ app for linux/ubuntu?03:56
iGamahow do i limit the processor use ?03:57
Choubakajin: dc++ :)03:57
Choubakalemme get you the how-to03:57
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iGamaany one know?03:58
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jinchoubaka, does that really exist?? lemme search for it now03:58
Choubakajin:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2837803:58
ChoubakaSee my post at the bottom03:58
Fab_iGama: why would you want to?03:59
Fab_ah03:59
Fab_saw already03:59
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Saint33snowblink: 98 driver doesnt work either... bummer03:59
iGamalaptop, heat, baterry03:59
iGamaenoght?03:59
iGama:p03:59
Fab_lol03:59
Fab_sry, never needed something like taht03:59
Fab_that*03:59
jinchoubaka, thanx03:59
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iGamaor... how do i speed up the fans?04:00
makyo2hello, anyone here using a MIDI USB keyboard?04:00
seekerwhat kind of laptop?04:00
iGamahp nx7000 - centrino 1.604:00
seekerif it's centrino you can use cpufreq04:00
iGamahow this it work?04:01
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snowblinkSaint33, did you get a CD with your card?04:01
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seekerdon't know yet. am just getting into it myself, but essentially it changes the cpu freq.04:01
seekerjust like the name implies :)04:01
iGamayep04:01
iGamabut i dont understand how it works :s04:02
EkaitzaHello everybody ;)04:02
iGamabut powernowd should do the same04:02
seekerlower freq -> less heat & power usage04:02
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iGamayep04:02
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iGamahow do u seet it?04:02
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iGama( sry for my english )04:02
seekerI have a pdf file that is not really very good.04:03
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iGamawhere did u get it?04:03
seekerbut it does explain in a round about kind of way04:03
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makyo2is crimsun around?04:03
iGamacan u send it?04:03
seekerwait a sec04:03
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Xappecan you set the tap sensitivity on the ibook trackpad in pbbuttonsd or something like that? its irritating when the cursor just jumps away and you find yourself typing in the wrong place04:04
iGamathanks04:04
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EkaitzaI've got an Ubuntu linux live cd which works ok, but I hate having to configure it each time I want to use it, does anybody know any possible way of saving it???04:06
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MyKq3i show that breezy packages r out !!!04:06
Super_Cat_Froghi - ive just run bastille 2.something, but i would like to try 3 (its not in any repository i can find) so i installed the 'source' (its a script and the installer cp's or ln's, not sure. anyway, my problem is i cant execute bastille - it just give me --help like im giving invalid options when i do bastille or bastille --os DB3.0 - any idea's?04:06
iGamaseeker, whats the webpage? :\04:07
iGamaits not working...04:07
jinanyone that knows a msn messenger app that works with voice chat support in linux? has anyone been able to emulate msn messenger under linux?04:07
Super_Cat_Frogekaitza-  you could put /etc and/or /home on cd. alternatively, slax has a system that saves your 'profile' on the internet and you pass something like profile=myprofile as a boot option, hopefully that will become popular with live cd's and we'l see it on more distro's04:08
seekerayttm - msn + gnomeeting04:08
Super_Cat_Frogjin - there's a fork of gaim that was trying to get voice chat, and the changes to be merged back once its stable, iirc04:08
Ekaitzait sounds just perfect04:08
iGamaseeker, the firewall at my college its blocking it :\04:08
Burgundaviagaim-vv04:08
Ekaitzabut I don't know if I did understand it04:08
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seekeriGama,  whats you email?04:08
Super_Cat_Frogekaitza - google for slax04:09
iGamamarcodasilva@gmail.com04:09
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Super_Cat_Froghttp://slax.linux-live.org/04:09
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wulfy814ok, so I have two Dell 2100FPs connected to an XFX nvidia 6600GT via DVI (it has Dual DVI)04:10
wulfy814and the colors are slightly different, what's up with that?04:10
seekeriGama,  you should know that it's all that hot. it was written for a project that dealt with heat control in centrino04:11
wulfy814I was using some cheap ass 35$ pci with one analog and one DVI I thought that was the problem04:11
seekerand you know how much students like to document stuff04:11
seekeriGama, im sending it now04:11
Super_Cat_Frogseeker - that doesn't sound like any students i know (myself included)04:11
EkaitzaSuper_Cat_Frog: but is it a different linux??04:12
seekerwhat do you mean? you like to document stuff?04:12
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Super_Cat_Frogekaitza - slax is a different distro based on slackware (a do it yourself distro, really). i was just telling you about that feature04:13
blue_dolphinanyone here use mythtv04:13
Super_Cat_Frogseeker - no i dont04:13
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Super_Cat_Frogblue_dolphin - me04:13
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Ekaitzathanks endeed, I'm just having a look04:13
Super_Cat_Frogseeker - maybe i misunderstood you, sorry bout that04:13
seekerthat's what I meant. and thats why I said it's a very crappy document04:13
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pavnerhi, i was wondering if ubuntu supports wireless broadcom cards? :)04:13
Super_Cat_Frogah - i didn't see where you said that04:14
seekerthe sad part about it , is that I am basing my whole project on that crappy document :(04:14
Super_Cat_Frogseeker - lol04:14
blue_dolphingreat Super_Cat_Frog I set up mythtv and tvtime two days ago and it worked fine. yesterday I ran the post install script from ubuntu-geek and since then niether mythtv nor tvtime see any signal04:15
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seekerand the guy who wrote it, already has his degree and has gone off to who knows where. oh well....04:15
Super_Cat_Frogblue_dolphin - #mythtv-users is probably the best place for help04:15
blue_dolphinok thanks04:15
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seekeriGama, did you get the email?04:16
Super_Cat_Frogblue_dolphin - just a quick suggestion, if you setup mythtv yesterday, then turned it off, turned it on today, your module's might not be loaded, try lsmod and check to see if your tv card modules are loaded04:16
iGamalet me check04:16
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iGamaseeker, thanks m804:16
seekerthe information you want is nearer the end I think04:16
blue_dolphinthey should be as we rebooted a couple of times when were setting up to check just that04:17
iGamaok04:17
jinI get his error message trying to install dc++ with scons : "Did not find the header time.h Can't live without it, sorry", anyone?04:17
nubbeany news on FF 1.03 for ubuntu?04:17
iGamai've downloaded the appet for gnome04:17
seekeranyway, that should get you started at least. I'm off. bye.04:17
blue_dolphinbut i will check just in case04:17
iGamabut how the heel do u make it run there 0.o04:17
seekerwhat do you mean?04:17
NotsoSlimPickinsnubbe, the security patches will be backported to 1.0.2 for hoary04:18
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EkaitzaSuper_Cat_Frog: that's just what I was looking for, but I forgot telling that I'm using Ubuntu because I've got an apple04:18
iGamaseeker, its gnome-cpufreq-applet04:18
iGamahow do u put it in the bar, i cant find it...04:18
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blue_dolphinSuper_Cat_Frog, I remember haveing to change something with the tuner to 2 like tuner = 204:19
seekerlook at page 35-3604:19
BurgundaviaiGama, right click on the menu and choose "add to panel"04:19
seekersorry 25-2604:19
frankanyone know of a tool to overclock the cpu in software?04:19
Super_Cat_Frogblue_dolphin - which module? bttv? saa7134?04:19
blue_dolphinbttv04:20
Super_Cat_Frogthen try lsmod | grep bttv04:20
blue_dolphinits there04:20
Super_Cat_Frogrmmod bttv ; modprobe bttv tuner=204:20
seekeriGama, the doc has some usage examples.04:20
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blue_dolphinthx04:21
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nubbeBurgundavia, ok, I got hoary, security and marillat repositories, is that enough to get backports?04:21
Super_Cat_Frogblue_dolphin - did that work?04:21
kentis there some way to make gkrellm always show on desktop, and not hide if i press the "hide desktop" button on the panel?04:21
blue_dolphinchecking didn't help tvtime :(04:21
seekersys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0cpufreq   - it's not a gnome applet04:21
Burgundavianubbe, the backporting is patch based, not a backported package. You will get it through the normal security process04:21
Super_Cat_Frogblue_dolphin - have you tried ls /dev/vid*04:21
it4ngoabout backport04:22
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jinhow come libglade 2.4 is not in repositories?04:22
it4ngois it only security related ?04:22
Burgundaviait4ngo, there is no "official" hoary backport yet04:22
Burgundaviait4ngo, security and critical bugs04:22
it4ngook thx04:22
nubbeBurgundavia, great thanks, another question, i haven't got a single update since hoary was final, I hope that's as it should be?04:22
blue_dolphinSuper_Cat_Frog, get this for output /dev/video0  /dev/video104:22
blue_dolphin/dev/video1394:04:22
blue_dolphin004:22
Burgundavianubbe, yes04:23
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Burgundavianubbe, there have been no security advisories save the ff ones, which ar a beast to do, from what i understand04:23
Super_Cat_Frogblue_dolphin - sorry, ive got no more idea's, you'l have to try #mythtv-users04:23
Xappewhere is the rythmbox ntification icon located? I want to change it to a lighter color to go with my dark theme04:23
blue_dolphinalso mythtv seems stuck on one channel the up and down keys do change the number but doesn't actually change the real channel04:23
krusbjornjin: libglade 2.5 is there ;)04:23
blue_dolphinSuper_Cat_Frog, okay thanks for your time04:24
Super_Cat_Frogs'ok04:24
EkaitzaSuper_Cat_Frog you are the best ;)04:24
Saint33How do I go about downloading an official Microsoft Driver ???04:24
nubbeBurgundavia, okidoki, I  guess the devs and/or packageers could use a break now...04:24
Super_Cat_Frogekaitza - i'l say that was a fair assessment ;)#04:24
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jinkrusbjorn, hehe.. I thought it was 1,2,5...04:24
EkaitzaI was really surprised with the slax04:24
krusbjornjin: notice the ":" ;)04:25
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Ekaitzait is a pity I've got an apple04:25
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nubbeWill all app-updates be on breezy and Hoary will just get security updates?04:26
Burgundavianubbe, yes04:26
Burgundavianubbe, but don't switch yet, breezy is mostly just a sync for sid, and is very unstable04:26
Xappei'll wait a couple of months I guess04:27
nubbeBurgundavia, I won't switch for a good while, but I'd like to keep track of some stuff, things like updated w32codecs and other instaleld stuff04:28
Burgundavianubbe, breezy will be pretty stable by mid-may I imagine. They are building breezy with gcc 4.0, so that is the major breakage right now04:28
nubbeBurgundavia, is there any good way to know when updates r available?04:29
nubbemaybe some filtering in synaptic?04:29
Burgundavianubbe, for what?04:29
kentnubbe: when updates are availibel you should see them on the panel.  There is a notification for that..04:29
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Burgundavianubbe, if you switch to breezy, you swithc lock,stock and barrel04:30
Burgundaviaall your apps with be updates04:30
Burgundavias/s/d04:30
nubbeBurgundavia, so if an x-chat update is available I will now?04:30
nubbeBurgundavia, without switching to Breezy?04:31
Burgundavianubbe, if any update is available for any package in your system, a little red circle will appear in the top right04:31
Burgundaviathat will show you the updates04:31
nubbeBurgundavia, thanks, just what I wanted to know04:31
Burgundaviahowever, hoary is getting no new features, only security and a few major bugfixes04:31
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nubbeBurgundavia, But update manager will show if any installed packages have updates?04:32
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Burgundavianubbe, yep04:33
Burgundavianubbe, such is the wonders of apt04:33
nubbeBurgundavia, goody  :)04:33
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nubbeBurgundavia, I was a little afraid that it would "protect" me from updates outside of Hoary  :)04:34
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Burgundaviaapt doesn't care about what repos you have04:34
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Burgundaviait says "is there a new version" if yes, then the little red thing will appear04:34
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nubbeokidoki04:34
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Burgundaviawhat supported means is that generally only main is going to get those security updtaes04:35
nubbek04:36
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UpayaviraI tried the liveCD (hoary preview), and, after entering my Wep key, it connected to my wireless network (took 2 wks under Debian sarge). Now, after full install of full release, it refuses to find my network. Any hints as to what I can do to get this working?04:37
kentBurgundavia: the little red thing -   Thats interesting. Seems like Im not the only one not seing what it actually is.. :)04:37
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Burgundaviakent, should have a little grey arrow on it04:38
karljpupaya: heh, I couldn't get wireles to work on the livecd, but it worked effortlessly once I'd installed :)04:38
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Burgundavias/arrow/exclamation mark04:38
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sebydoes exist any fpc (freepascalcompiler) packages for warty?04:39
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Burgundaviaseby, check packages.ubuntu.com04:40
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jiveraHas anyone else noticed in Hoary evolution depends on libcamel1.2-3 and libebook1.2-3, but libebook1.2-3 depends on libcamel1.2-0, which conflicts with libcamel1.2-3?04:42
jiveraEr, Breezy.04:42
jiveraNot hoary.04:42
Burgundaviajivera, that would be one of the oddiites of breezy04:42
Burgundaviafile a bug04:42
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KBJnow that hoary is declared stable i don't seem to be getting updates. Is there any way i can stay unstable and get the newest version of stuff?04:50
krusbjornKBJ: you could go breezy, but i wouldnt recommend it ;P04:51
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sobersabrewhat is gdomap and gnustep_sndd04:51
sobersabre ?04:51
sobersabreand why do i need them ?04:51
BurgundaviaKBJ, I echo krusbjorn statement04:51
Burgundaviasobersabre, what are you trying to do?04:51
KBJwhat's breezy?04:51
Burgundaviathe next version of Ubuntu04:51
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sobersabreBurgundavia, i am running hoary. before i did that i had nothing of the sort.04:52
KBJbut why wouldn't you recommend it?04:52
chazwurthKBJ: Because it's probably unstable as all hell.04:52
krusbjornKBJ: it will crash on you, over and over again ;)04:52
BurgundaviaKBJ, currently, it just a sync from sid04:52
Burgundaviaand not much polishing04:52
KBJbut hoary was quite stable a long time before it got declared stable04:52
Burgundaviaand next week, the devs are going to be hacking the crap out of it04:52
Burgundaviaat the next dev conf04:53
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sobersabreso ... why do i need gnustep_sndd04:53
sobersabre ?04:53
krusbjornKBJ: hoary wasnt stable 1 week after warty was released04:53
Burgundaviasobersabre, synaptic will show you what depends on it04:53
KBJoh... hehe... ok04:53
KBJwell, thanks alot guys...04:53
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Burgundaviasobersabre, right, click and change the drop down04:54
krusbjorn:)04:54
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brad-Anyone here succesfully using Evolution 2.2 with Exchange 2003?04:54
guruffhow can i mount an iso image ?04:54
usynicguerby: mount -o loop /iso.iso /mnt/point04:55
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usynicer... guruff04:55
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guruffusynic; thx :)04:55
usynicnp04:55
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Haohmaruhi all, I have a sound-related problem: XMMS, openMSX, GSnes9x, totem-xine all work nicely but when I start fuhquake, it tells me '/dev/dsp: Broken pipe' - the game starts and runs fine, but I get no sound04:57
Haohmaru(btw I have eliminated esd)04:57
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SeamusLPHey, anyone here know if bayesian spam filtering for evolution mail exists?04:57
njanyes, and yes.04:57
njan:)04:57
njanyou can use spamassassin with evolution, although it's fairly slow, especially if you have a lot of mail.04:58
SeamusLPSpamassassin is bayesian?04:58
magnondoes anyone know what compatibility problems there are with newer powerbooks and ubuntu?04:58
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njanSeamusLP, yes..04:59
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SeamusLPthanks njan05:00
njanyw05:00
SeamusLPHaohmaru: It use OSS or alsa?05:00
Burgundaviamagnon, there are some generall linux issues with the very new powerbooks. All linux distros face it05:01
Burgundaviamagnon, apparently, the specs changes05:01
raavi02Haohmaru: check out wether sound card is busy are not05:01
Burgundaviamagnon, it is being worked on by people like terrasoft (ydl)05:01
Burgundaviamagnon, that info is current as of last tuesday05:01
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Haohmaruwhen I start fuhquake I'm not running any other sound-related things05:01
Haohmaruand doing a cat meep.wav > /dev/dsp works fine05:02
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SeamusLPHaohmaru:  Perhaps it requires a sound server?05:02
boroHello. I know this is not exactly ubuntu question, but...05:02
boroI have win XP pro installed, and also VMWARE 5 for windows. I have Ubuntu 5.04 installed also. I have dualboot. Now i'd like to boot ubuntu using vmware for windows. Is there any how-to ? or could someone help me step by step in priva ?05:02
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raavi02Haohmaru: can you try killing all the sound servers05:03
Burgundaviaq3 needs to have esd killed05:03
SeamusLPHe's already done that05:03
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Haohmaruyes, esd is already killed05:03
raavi02boro: vm-ware will ask the bootable disk you can insert your ubunut disk there and start the engine05:03
magnonBurgundavia: thanks05:04
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bororaavi02, but how without that ?05:04
Burgundaviamagnon, np05:04
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raavi02boro: I didn't get you05:04
boroi don't have ubuntu cd @ home right now05:04
HaohmaruI had problems running openMSX with sound - after getting rid of esd it all works fine - only fuhquake gives that broken pipe error05:04
raavi02boro: VM-Ware is an emulator05:05
BurgundaviaHaohmaru, what is fuhquake?05:05
Haohmaruit's supposed to be -it- to run quake on a linux system05:05
raavi02boro: it just emulates entire scenario,05:05
BurgundaviaHaohmaru, what version?05:06
Haohmarudid a search on linux/ubuntu quake and fuhquake came up05:06
BurgundaviaHaohmaru, q3?05:06
raavi02boro: step1: should be installing vm-ware05:06
Haohmaruno quake05:06
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Haohmaru(the first one)05:06
SeamusLPHaohmaru:  Was it giving you the broken pipe error when you were running esd?05:06
raavi02boro: do supply what ever necessary during installation05:06
Haohmarudon't know, I got rid of esd because openMSX gave sound errors05:07
boroi have already installed vmware and ubuntu and xp05:07
bororaavi0205:07
SeamusLPHaohmaru:  Not sure if this is going to work, but try changing your sound output to alsa in multimedia systems selector.05:07
HaohmaruFailed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'05:07
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raavi02boro: you have ubuntu in seperate partition. or ....05:08
SeamusLPHaohmaru:  Do you have more than one sound card?05:08
bororaavi02 jes05:08
HaohmaruI hope only one - I'm using a laptop ;)05:08
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SeamusLPhehe right05:08
BurgundaviaHaohmaru, hmm, quake is gpl05:08
chicken_manhey people :P05:08
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bororaavi02: want to use vmware to boot ubuntu, instead shutting down windows, and boot to ubuntu :)05:09
SeamusLPHaohmaru:  Does OSS give that error?05:09
boroinstead of*05:09
Haohmaruno05:09
HaohmaruOSS working fine05:09
Haohmaru(apart from getting sound in fuhquake that is)05:09
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raavi02boro: can able to get grub05:09
SeamusLPWell the test failing usually doesn't mean that the sound system is failing.  I've sent things through alsa with the broken pipe error.05:10
SeamusLPSo try setting it to alsa and running it05:10
bororaavi02, must boot to ubuntu to modify grub files05:10
BurgundaviaHaohmaru, quake2 exisits05:10
HaohmaruI know05:10
raavi02boro : can you able to get grub after you start the vm-ware05:10
BurgundaviaHaohmaru, in hoary repos05:10
Haohmarudoes it run quake1?05:10
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HaohmaruI don't really like quake2 that much - prefer quake1 and quake305:11
chicken_manhow do i run quake 2 i keep geting errors about missing .so files :( can some one help05:11
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bororaavi02, umm ? i need help to set up vmware virtual machine first...05:11
raavi02boro: okay05:11
raavi02boro: i have done that some time ago, step-by-step procedure I do not remember at the moment05:12
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bororaavi02 :(05:12
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raavi02boro: I presume those are very simple and easily manageable05:13
SeamusLPHoahmaru:  Anything change?05:13
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raavi02boro: I never tried to boot a partition, rather installed new for vm-ware05:14
bororaavi02: i tried, but every time when start new virtual machine, it says: not Op system installed or smt :(05:14
raavi02boro: got it05:14
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jinon ubuntu install, is there a firewall installed by default?05:15
FoodcomanCould anyone provide compelling reason why one would choose Firestart vs Shorewall?05:15
raavi02boro: you must install ubuntu for vm-ware sep'tly. I guess, try googlingm for booting from partition05:15
bororaavi02: ok05:15
raavi02boro: Its not recommended mostly to install a stable os on unstable os.05:16
raavi02boro: I prefer, to install windows on linux.05:17
Seveazjin, iptables is what makes up your firewall, that is installed by default05:17
Seveazjin, but a nice configuration tool like firestarter is not05:17
raavi02boro: linux is very heavy to vm-ware under windows, you will have a terrible experience05:17
jinseveaz, k thanx05:18
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pippopappoi have ubuntu hoary but i can't install mplayer05:21
mainerpippopappo: www.ubuntuguide.org05:22
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snowblinkboro, raavi02 : I'm currently on Hoary on top of Windows in VMware. It is slower than native, but not that bad.05:23
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Haohmaruoh btw I did this: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly05:23
pippopappothanks05:23
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mainern.p.05:24
megamindHi there ... how can i install the printer in ubuntoo ...05:24
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megamindany idea05:24
raavi02boro: fine, for simple desktop surfing thats okay, If you actually run something...05:24
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snowblinkraavi02, I rebuilt the kernel the other day. It is slow, but not really much slower than my setup from a few years ago.05:25
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megamindi think no one is going to help me in installing printer or modem :)05:25
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Super_Cat_Froghi - does anybody know of a JRE available through apt? ive got hoary/breezy universe/multiverse enabled05:25
SeamusLPHoahmaru:  I think I've found a solution.  Try executing the commands I'm about to pm you05:25
Cygniamegamind:install the cups drivers in Synaptic then find your printer in the new printer dialog.05:25
snowblinkboro, VMware sets up a system inside one massive file. You cannot use it to access an existing linux partition.05:25
megamindthanks cygnia .. let me try that plz05:26
raavi02snowblink: what is your configuration.05:26
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Saint33hi folks...05:27
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Saint33Is it possible to share an internet connection using Ubuntu ?05:27
HaohmaruSeamusLP: ok05:27
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snowblinkraavi02, winxp pro, vmware workstation running ubuntu hoary05:28
raavi02snowblink: sorry, the hardward.05:28
chicken_manSaint33, yes it is05:28
Super_Cat_Frogsaint33 - the easiest way to do that is to install bastille, and get that do setup the firewall to do it05:28
megamindcygnia i can not find cups ... under which category do i seek that ?05:28
Saint33thanks super_cat_frog,05:29
chicken_manmegamind, use search05:29
snowblinkraavi02, P4 2.8GHz 512MB RAM (although only about 192MB for Ubuntu)05:29
] BreliC[isn't cups installed by default?05:29
raavi02snowblink: for academics I use to simulate most of the real-world stuff, there vm-ware performs terribly bad.05:30
Cygniamegamind: some drivers are extra so search on "cups", it should come up.05:30
CygniaHave to get to work, good luck...05:30
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raavi02snowblink: but for normal applications that is quite okay.05:30
snowblinkraavi02, sure. I've not fixed the clock drift problem yet. I think it depends on what you're doing. If you're doing processor intensive, then you shouldn't really use vmware.05:31
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pisukeSaint33: I'd said the easiest way would be to install firestarter. I think bastille is too much.05:31
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snowblinkraavi02, I'm still waiting for the company to provide me with a laptop, so I can exit this weird setup...05:32
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Saint33pisuke: thanks :) I need simple options for now... heh05:32
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raavi02snowblink: I stopped using windows, six months ago. Ofcourse for some graphical stuff I ocassionally use.05:33
chicken_manany one want a C++ guide take a look at my site http://chickenman.zapto.org/apache2-default/help/05:35
snowblinkraavi02, I've not used windows for about 5-6 years. This is a new job in a window-centric company.05:36
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raavi02snowblink: okay05:36
chicken_mani stoped using windows 2 months ago :P05:36
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raavi02chicken_man: great start05:37
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chicken_manraavi02, use im doing very well so far :)05:37
chicken_manyes*05:37
snowblinkraavi02, I'll be running vmware on linux, because they use lotus notes here.05:37
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karljpif you can't use kismet, because you have an ndiswrapper card, what other wireless tools are there to help with wireless roaming?05:38
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Valentin-hey, stupid question of a beginner: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java15 <- what is meant with fakeoot05:38
karljpmy windows wlan driver could just automatically connect to anything, or I could look at a list of nearby networks.05:38
karljpI'm looking for something similar05:39
raavi02snowblink: do you work for any MNCs or started own business05:39
nickrudValentin-, normally to build packages, you need to be root05:39
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nickrudfakeroot fakes it :)05:39
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snowblinkraavi02, multi05:39
Valentin-nickrud, that means I could open up a root terminal05:39
Dark_Sithhello people05:40
Valentin-and forget about fakeroot05:40
nickrudyes, but why?05:40
raavi02snowblink: okay05:41
forcerWhen using Ubuntu, the ImPS/2 mouse driver and /dev/input/mice, the mouse will sometimes start reacting very slowly (as if no acceleration existed) for no apparent reason. This happened with Warty (XFree86) as well as it happens with Hoary (X.Org) - any idea why, or how to fix it?05:41
Dark_Sithi never used ubutu before, but i was wondering if it would run good on a pc with a 400 Mhz processor, 512 mb?05:41
bur[n] erDark_Sith: might wanna use xfce or some other lightweight window manager05:42
snowblinkValentin-, IIRC it's mostly used for building kernel related stuff05:42
bur[n] ergnome might be cranky on 400 mHz05:42
bur[n] erbut the 512 ram is good05:42
chicken_manDark_Sith, EASY!05:42
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pippopappoi can't open a dvd using mplayer05:42
chicken_manDark_Sith, i got 550 mhz05:42
raavi02Dark_Sith: I think it will do the job for you05:42
Dark_Sithcool05:42
Valentin-snowblink,  where do I have to go to?05:42
nickrudDark_Sith, yes, just look around for eye candy to turn off, and use a fast theme05:42
darkauditpippopappo: you have libdvdcss installed?05:42
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chicken_manDark_Sith, and use KDE ;)05:42
snowblinkDark_Sith, I had warty running on a 300MHz 3??MB RAM box05:42
raavi02Dark_Sith: provided if you have some patience to work with that05:42
jinwhats the name of the hdd program for setting dma and stuff?05:42
pippopappo i can't open a dvd using mplayer but just with xine. Why ? When i try open a dvd with mplayer it crashing05:42
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Dark_Sithokay i'll give it a try then :-)05:42
raavi02Dark_Sith: fine05:42
nickrudDark_Sith, don't expect movies to work well at all ;(05:43
snowblinkjin: hdparm?05:43
jinsnowblink: thanx thats the name05:43
gorilla_bur[n] er, actuall even on a 233 MHz with 128MB of ram Gnome goes okay... swaps a bit but otherwise passable.05:43
raavi02Dark_Sith: but you can play sound well05:43
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bur[n] ergorilla_: gnome by itself with no apps ;)05:43
snowblinkValentin-, don't understand your question05:43
Dark_Sithno will just use it for downloading, e-mails05:43
chicken_manKDE :P05:43
bur[n] ergorilla_: if you like to do things within gnome, that's a bit lacking ;)05:43
bur[n] erless you just launch an xterm05:43
Valentin-snowblink,  doesn't matter perhaps I just missunterstood you05:44
raavi02Dark_Sith: then no problem05:44
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Valentin-nickrud, but if I enter that what it provided in command prompt I just get Couldn't find package ...05:45
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nickrudValentin-, what link was that again?05:45
Valentin-http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java1505:45
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Shuflahi05:46
Shuflahow nice is to install ubuntu with apt-proxy and expert settings :D05:46
NixerXI just wanna say to those involved with Ubuntu......Excellent work!05:47
nickrudValentin-, which command?05:47
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Valentin-nickrud, sudo apt-get install java-package fakeroot05:47
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ShuflaNixerX: Thanks :) (I'm involved a little - technical support on # and IRL :D )05:47
karljpvalentin05:47
karljpare you onn hoary?05:47
karljphttp://nickselby.com/articles/technology/index.htm?a=180605:47
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nickrudValentin-, do you have universe and multiverse enabled in your repositories05:47
Valentin-hehe slowly please05:48
Valentin-:)05:48
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nickrudOK! we can fix this easy05:48
Valentin-no I think I am not05:48
nickrudopen synaptic, and under settings there's a menu item called repositories05:49
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pippopappoqualcuno di voi ha installato cedega?05:49
seekerwhen I try to connect to skype I immidiatly get a login failed messege, as if it hasn't even tried to login. how can I check if skype is sending out packets? (something like netlimmiter in windows)05:50
Valentin-nickrud, got it05:51
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dazedwhats the repo for mallirat anyone know?05:52
nickrudValentin-, ok, look for the item called Hoary Hedgehog (binary) , not the ones marked security or updates05:52
tritiumdazed, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main05:53
medrakili'm having some trouble with the repositories on ubuntuguide.org.. i get a 500 internal server error on the ftp.nerim.net ones and the backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports ones.. do i need these? can i comment them out?05:53
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nickrudmedrakil, if you're on hoary you don't really need those05:53
medrakilnickrud: yeah, on fresh hoary right off cd05:53
heftigratn e 1 have exp installing wine?05:53
Valentin-got it05:54
medrakilnickrud: so the guide isn't all up to date then? what's marillat, btw?05:54
nickrudmedrakil, marillat's stuff is usually for installing mplayer & related stuff on debian, and the dev's here recommend not using them.05:54
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tritiummedrakil, scroll up.  I posted it for dazed05:55
nickrudmarillat is a debian developer that maintains a lot of non-free stuff in his own repository.05:55
medrakilnickrud: ah ok.. but i don't need those? i can still get mplayer?05:55
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nickrudmedrakil, :)05:56
tritiummedrakil, most people use marillat to get libdvdcss2 so they can play dvds05:56
dazedtritium: thanks for the info...problem though...its not finding packages when i do reload05:56
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nickrudmedrakil, listen to tritium, I don't run dvd :)05:56
medrakiltritium: ah, ok..05:57
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tritiumdazed, which packages are you looking for?05:57
Saint33Has anyone configured Firestarter without any problems ???05:57
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dazedtritium: i mean its not getting the hit when i reload05:57
dazedits not even finding the repo05:57
tritiumdazed, it is here...I just aptitude update05:57
dazednevermind lol05:57
chicken_mantritium, i can't find any good tcp\ip C++ programming tutorials ?05:58
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sobersabreSaint33, which problems  have you encountered?05:58
tritiumchicken_man, I'm probably not the right one to ask for that05:58
chicken_manlol05:58
unpersonHi.  I'm trying to run mathematica over a remote X connection.  This works fine, except that mathematica requires special fonts.  I downloaded the fonts from Wolfram Research (the guys who make Mathematica), but I don't know how to install them properly.  I've tried a few things, but I don't really know what I'm doing.05:59
dazeddoes anyone have a link to adding mallirat repo?05:59
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Saint33I've installed Firestarter ok, but it cant find my eth0 connection even though I'm using it05:59
tritiumdazed, I gave you the right one05:59
asynicdazed: http://www.ubuntuguide.org - click on the "how to add extra repos"05:59
sobersabreunperson, you need to follow the instructions on the mathematica site.05:59
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nickrudhttp://ftp.nerim.net/debian unstable (from memory)05:59
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asynicdazed: the merrilat ones are at the bottom05:59
sobersabreunperson, put the fonts into /usr/share/fonts06:00
unpersonHow do you install fonts in Hoary?  How do you know when they've been installed correctly?  What sort of fonts are the right ones (e.g. which extentions) and are these the same as for windows?06:00
tritiumchicken_man, did you check here: http://linoleum.leapster.org/ ?06:00
dazedtritium: im not doubting you i just gotta read something cuz your not understanding what im saying06:00
chopperhi, need to know which package do I need to build apps from source06:00
Dreamer3my memory problem isn't caused by the kernel... 2.6.8.1 still (1-2 days later) totally runs out of memory...06:00
dazedasynic: thanks06:00
heftigrathey all, getting err "/usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0" running wine.  specified dir does not even exist.  did install fail?  am i missing libs?  thanks in adv.06:00
Agrajagchopper: build-essential06:00
chopperAgrajag, thanks!06:00
sobersabreinto a special dir  ( e.g. Wolfram )06:00
tritiumdazed, I understand that it didn't hit, but it should.06:00
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chicken_mantritium, nope :)06:00
sobersabreunperson, them run: cd /usr/share/fonts ; fc-update06:00
tritiumheftigrat, the winetools from winehq.com is not compatible with the wine in universe06:00
dazedtritium: i know thats why i think im doing something wrong and if i read i understand better u know06:01
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sobersabresorry, fc-cache06:01
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jindoes skype exist for ubuntu? cant find it in repositories06:01
tritiumdazed, make sure you entered it correctly06:01
Hobocopskype exists for linux06:01
Hobocopand debian specifically06:01
heftigratah...thx, tritium...any tools app that works?06:01
Hobocopbut I dont think it is in the repositories06:01
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unpersonsobersabre:  Ah, ok.06:01
Saint33sombersabre: any ideas reg. firestarter ?06:01
Hobocopwww.skype.org I think06:02
tritiumheftigrat, you can use the wine from winehq.com instead06:02
dazedtritium: yeah i got it in correctly missed a word06:02
sobersabreunperson, you can test, by running xterm, and then: xlsfonts | grep <name_of_wolfram_font>06:02
tritiumdazed, ok06:02
heftigratawesome, thanks tritium06:02
unpersonsobersabre:  I put the type1 fonts under /usr/share/fonts/type1/mathfonts, but I still didn't have any luck.  I didn't know about the fc-update command.06:02
flyingsquirrel54While booting up I get the following error:06:02
tritiumheftigrat, e.g., aptitude intsall wine=0.0.20050310-1 is what I did06:02
tritiums/intsall/install06:02
flyingsquirrel54* Starting hotplug subsystem06:02
flyingsquirrel54modprobe: FATAL Error inserting hw_random (/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-386/kernel/drivers/char/hwrandom.ko): No such device06:02
sobersabreunperson, it's not "fc-update" it is "fc-cache"06:02
flyingsquirrel54any ideas?06:03
thenukeSuper_Cat_Frog: seems like bastilles firewall-script-maker supports only 2.2 and 2.4 kernels06:03
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sobersabreand you need to kill X server, to restart it.06:03
nickrudunperson, type1 fonts, not true type?06:03
jinhobocop: how come I cant find it in repositories???06:03
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Hobocopprobably because it isnt open source software :)06:03
sobersabrenickrud, yes. it is MAthematica special fonts06:03
HobocopI dont know for sur since I am a complete newbie06:03
Hobocopbut I looked hard06:03
unpersonnickrud:  Well, it's confusing.  They have a page for UNIX where they have BDF, PC, and Type1 fonts.06:03
sobersabreunperson, did u get the unix fonts.. right ?06:03
NixerXAnyone here ever edit LDAP entries in Exchange via any Client?06:03
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unpersonnickrud:  Then in the windows section they have true type fonts.06:04
nickrudunperson, use the true type fonts and do as sobersabre says06:04
Hobocopjin: I bet skype wouldnt let them put it in the repository, I really dont know06:04
sobersabreunperson, i have installed these once on Slackware, there was no problem.06:04
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lotiaanyone using the cone mail client on ubuntu06:04
sobersabrenickrud, there's no advantage of truetype06:04
sobersabretype1 is ok.06:05
flyingsquirrel54I'm getting the following error while booting Any ideas?06:05
flyingsquirrel54* Starting hotplug subsystem06:05
flyingsquirrel54modprobe: FATAL Error inserting hw_random (/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-3-386/kernel/drivers/char/hwrandom.ko): No such device06:05
|QuaD-http://www.vnunet.com/news/116257106:05
nickrudsobersabre, different commands to get them ready :006:05
Hobocopwoohoo got apache and php and mysql running :)06:05
nickrudfonts.scale and fonts.dir, I believe06:05
sobersabreflyingsquirrel54, means u don't have a CPU with RNG06:05
spacedmanHmmm does the 'popularity-contest' package constitute spyware? :) I dont remember asking to install it!06:05
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jimmachola06:05
flyingsquirrel54it's centrino. how do I get rid of the error?06:06
sobersabrenickrud, it is all done with fc-cache06:06
unpersonsobersabre:  Yes, I got the unix fonts.  I also got the windows fonts.  I attempted to install each.  No luck with either.  I'm going to try your suggestions now.06:06
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sobersabreand mkfontdir,mkfontscale are redundant, because these fonts came with font.scale & dir of their own..06:06
jimmacI have a module question. the new hoary kernel suddenly started refusing loading my emu10k1 module06:06
nickrudsobersabre, just checked the man page again, and it says freetype :)06:07
unpersonsobersabre:  So I have downloaded tarballs of the BDF, PCF, and Type1 fonts.  I don't really get if these are the same fonts in 3 different storage formats or if I need to install all of these.06:07
ubuntuphileI've been running the Ubuntu Update Manager daily after installing Hoary 5.04, but have yet to see any updates.  Have there been no updates issued?  Or could this be the result of a problem that occurred during installation?  I checked my repository lists, and they seem okay.06:07
jimmacit refuses to load the snd-ac97-codec module because of not understanding the index parameter. insmodding worked, but I cannot find where the index parameter is passed to it06:07
jimmacit's not in /etc/modules.conf06:07
HobocopWhy would you expect updates so soon?06:07
sobersabreunperson, if you want to be sure, you can check /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if it has paths related to fonts.06:07
HobocopI mean there certainly may be some, but when did you install it?06:08
sobersabrei don't actually remember. i remember using the site was straightforward.06:08
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flodinea guy i got on board sound should i use my soundblaster instead06:08
ubuntuphileI installed it the day it was released.06:08
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sobersabreunperson, use the directions on site. i don't remember because i didn't think or work hard on it :-)06:08
flodineand will ubuntu see soundblaster06:08
unpersonsobersabre:  Ok, well, I'll look a bit further for instructions.  I looked a bit yesterday, but I didn't find anything apparently useful.06:08
lenovoflyingsquirrel54:Maybe you should try edit /etc/hotplug/blanklist. And shouldn't ask same question several times.Just need to wait.06:08
nickrudunperson, anyway, the simplest way to add fonts is to get the ttf, drop it in ~/.fonts, and run fc-cache06:09
aboodhi all06:09
triandafilosi just added another hdd to my which has a fat partion how do i get ubuntu to detect it?06:09
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whnpare there any docs for setting up a laptop with the multimedia keys?06:09
sobersabrenickrud, you _assume_ he has06:09
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dazedtriandafilos:  is it windows?06:10
sobersabreonly 1 user that needs Mathematica fonts.06:10
dazedull have to mount it06:10
triandafilosnope..06:10
aboodguys, any body can help me in how to install JRE2 ??, i tried to install it from java.com but i didnt know how to exctract the .bin extinsion06:10
triandafiloshow do i go about doing that?06:10
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tritiumwhnp, which model?06:10
flyingsquirrel54lenovo: Sorry, wasn't trying to be rude. Thanks I'll do some research on that. is it really a problem, or just a feature my cpu doesn't support that would be better disabled?06:10
Saint33Has anyone configured Firestarter without any problems ???06:10
zenroxabood,  read www.ubuntuguide.org for java install06:11
tritiumabood, Method 2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java06:11
sobersabrewhnp, no. try going into set up of Shortcuts and there pressing the keys, and binding them to misc actions...\06:11
jindoes anyone know how to use fullscreen when playing something with gmplayer?? I try "t" but it doesnt zoom the actual output06:11
nickrudabood, get java-package from multiverse, makes it easy06:11
sobersabreflyingsquirrel54, i wrote you. u probably have a celeron mobile cpu without hardware random number generator circuit. (RNG)06:11
flodineanyone using a soundblaster live card for sound06:12
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aboodzenrox, i did already but they said the package name couldnt be fined, anyways i installed it :) thx all06:12
darkauditjin: try changing the video output to 'xv'06:12
sobersabrefloater, many do.06:12
ubuntuphilef usually works for me with gmplayer for full screen06:12
tritiumabood, method 2 in the URL I sent you uses java-package06:12
erikstiisn't cvs installed by default in ubuntu? I get bash: cvs: command not found06:12
whnpsobersabre, the shortcuts can do it ... thanks so much  ... thats awesome that it just works06:12
tritiumeriksti, no06:12
jindarkaudit: thanx06:12
lenovoflyingsquirrel54:I think it is not a problem.06:12
aboodthx tritium , nickrud  the proplem solved :)06:12
jinanyone that knows howto be able using active mode in linuxdcpp?06:13
sobersabrelenovo, how can you tell .. ?06:13
flyingsquirrel54thanks I lookup info on how to disable, It takes a long time to boot up, hangs a while on that one. Thanks all.06:13
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Edganabood: there is a package called java-package to create it, or their is a repo, I think hoary-extras with a premade one06:14
erikstitritium, when I go 'apt-get install cvs' it ask for my CD and stuff .. how can I install it with apt-get without having the CD ?06:14
Edganflodine: yes06:14
sobersabreflyingsquirrel54, put the hw_random into blacklisted modules.06:14
Saint33what command do I type to install a downloaded .deb package ??06:14
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tritiumeriksti, comment out the CD line from your /etc/apt/sources.list06:14
djm62Saint33: dpkg -i package.deb06:14
EdganSaint33: dpkg -i file.deb06:14
sobersabreSaint33, dpkg -i blabla.deb06:14
sobersabre:)))06:14
Saint33thx peeps :)06:15
hypnodpkg -i.. oh wait06:15
erikstitritium, thanks, that should do it06:15
djm62....preferably substituting the real package name ;)06:15
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sobersabreis there a kernel package preparation tool for ubuntu ( like make-kpkg for debian ) ?06:16
tritiumEdgan, backports are not advisable, as they make upgrading to the next release a pita06:16
tritiumsobersabre, the same (make-kpkg) in kernel-package06:16
lenovosobersabre: Sorry. Is my answer wrong?06:17
sobersabretritium, so... what shall i call the kernel package name then, when calling make-kpkg // ?06:17
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sobersabrelenovo, i think you cannot assume that a guy _has_ rng.06:17
dazedhey whats this error mean "W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907"06:17
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sobersabreas i cannot assume he doesn't :)06:17
djm62sobersabre: not ubuntu06:17
tritiumsobersabre, read the docs in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package for tips.06:17
sobersabretritium, thank you.06:17
ubuntuphileI did a clean install of Hoary 5.04 the day it was released and have yet to see an update using the Ubuntu Update Manager.  Has this been your experience?06:18
unpersonsobersabre:  Well, it looks like this page basically says use the xset command to add it to your font path:  http://support.wolfram.com/mathematica/systems/unix/general/xsetfonterror.html06:18
djm62ubuntuphile: 5.04 is stable...minimal updates (security, no-impact bugfix)06:18
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tritiumdazed, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary06:18
buzany breezy users around?06:18
SeamusLPubuntuphile:  A firefox security update should be coming in a little while.06:18
djm62I'm enjoying the break from downloading :)06:18
SavvyPlayerbreezy here06:19
sobersabreunperson, xset +fp is the rough way.06:19
sobersabre:)06:19
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buzSavvyPlayer: does cups work for you?06:19
ubuntuphilethanx djm62--have you received any security or bugfix updates?06:19
sobersabreunperson, disregards just this.06:19
sobersabre:)06:19
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tritiumdazed, did you see the URL I sent?06:19
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SavvyPlayeri have no printers attached to this machine (yet)06:19
djm62ubuntuphile: I think I got a couple...could have been universe stuff06:19
buzmhh doesnt work for me anymore since i updated to breezy06:20
SavvyPlayeralthough i was having trouble upgrading cups yesterday06:20
buzthat's the bleeding in bleeding edge guess06:20
djm62ubuntuphile: you can download SP2 if you have wine installed ;)06:20
dazedtritium: im not sure06:20
flyingsquirrel54great no more error, much faster.06:20
SeamusLPdjm62:  You have to be joking06:20
tritiumdazed, I just sent it to you06:20
ubuntuphiledjm62: what's SP2?06:20
nickrudubuntuphile, there was a fix to a firefox language pack and the april artwork, and that's it so far06:20
dazedgot it06:20
SavvyPlayeri seem to be having problems with gecko/libgtlembedmoz.so06:20
dazedtritium: im on irssi and i wasnt looking it was a couple lines up06:21
SavvyPlayerneither epiphany nor yelp06:21
djm62SeamusLP: bien sur....06:21
SavvyPlayerare able to load06:21
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lenovosobersabre:Yes, you are right.06:21
SavvyPlayer*libgtkembedmoz.so*06:21
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buzworst thing is actually that i use a native PS2 printer and not even that works06:22
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ubuntuphilenickrud: thanxs--I'll double check my repository listings, but I have received absolutely no updates.  Not even the Firefox update.06:22
buz(unelss i feed PS2 directly to /dev/usb/lp0 that is)06:22
SeamusLPdjm62:  Has anyone actually tried that for shits and giggles?06:22
djm62SeamusLP: I know they had one of the viruses working06:23
SeamusLPhahahaha06:23
SavvyPlayer"/usr/lib/mozilla/TestGtkEmbed" works fine06:23
sobersabreguys... how can i tell which deb does a file belong to ?06:23
nickrudubuntuphile, they showed up on the 12th, according to the hoary-changes list06:23
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djm62http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222&from=rss06:23
ubuntuphilethanxs again, nickrud06:23
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onnoHow do you install a .deb packedge06:25
djm62onno: dpkg -i06:25
] BreliC[onno, dpkg -i packagename.deb06:25
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djm62onno: but only do that if you can't apt-get it06:26
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SeamusLPdjm62:  That's bloody hilarious, man.06:26
tritiumsobersabre, dpkg -S <path-to-filename>06:26
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sobersabretritium, thanks!06:26
tritiumnp06:26
onnook thanxs its for skype06:26
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onnoUbuntu community real helpfull communtiy :-)06:27
sobersabredjm62, no. they use it. no ethos.06:27
djm62sobersabre: I meant, rather than finding .deb packages, then finding the dependencies, etc06:27
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=== Atholas can't believe that Debian has got Firefox 1.0.3 in their repository!
djm62I'd hate to think of someone straight off suse not realising that it was unnecessary06:28
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sobersabredjm62, i didn't get your point... DO YOU THINK UBUNTU INVENTED apt-get ?!?!?!?!06:28
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djm62sobersabre: easy :) I've used debian since potato, but not everyone has06:29
azadhi there.. anyone got a stable-server for apt for me?06:29
djm62sobersabre: and I remember rpm hell in redhat before that06:29
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jinI cant find firefox 1.0.3 in repositories06:30
Atholasjin: it made it into unstable in Debian.06:30
asyniclol... /me forgot it was called potatoe.06:30
Fackamatoanyone who runs gnome, could you do a ps aux | grep nauti and give me the relevant one for the desktop?06:30
djm62asynic: a classic release, I feel ;)06:30
Fackamatobecause gnome is designed in such a way that it should crash sometimes, and that the desktop should disappear06:31
Fackamatothen you have no way of getting it back06:31
asynic[synic@rhuidean ~] $ ps fax | grep nauti06:31
asynic 6890 ?        Ssl    0:09 nautilus --no-default-window --sm-client-id default306:31
asynic 6972 ?        S      0:00 /usr/lib/nautilus-cd-burner/mapping-daemon06:31
Fackamatohm06:31
sobersabredjm62, apt-get wasn't a new idea too. ports was. after ports came out, everything else seemed.. child game.06:31
SavvyPlayeris there a simple way to get a PID for a process owning a particular window?06:31
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nickrudFackamato, try killall nautilus, it always gets it back for me06:32
djm62sobersabre: yes...I've done BSD and honestly prefer linux, technical rigour aside06:32
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djm62sobersabre: and I really don't think the difference merits all caps ;)06:33
sobersabredjm62, i cannot say what i prefer... since i have no preference. the UI is the same. ssd.yscalls are different, but not much... and in the end, linux is far more spread than b06:33
sobersabrebsd i meant06:33
sobersabrenow i closed the touchpad.06:33
sobersabrenow it doesn't make the cursor jump :)06:33
djm62well yeah...the ultimate answer to "which OS" is "the one you prefer"...it only exists to facilitate human-computer interaction06:34
djm62sobersabre: you on hp-compaq?06:34
sobersabredjm62, ... why do you think so ?06:34
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djm62I just got one...the touchpad switch was new on me, and damn handy :)06:35
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xuxaQuick question... GNUcash is available through apt in Ubuntu, right?  I'd like to install Ubuntu for a friend who loves gnucash but using the Ubuntu live cd, I didn't see gnucash was available when I tried, "apt-cache search gnucash" or in Synaptic (sp?)06:35
djm62maybe all laptops have that these days06:35
sobersabredjm62, tp switch is not uniq to hp/compaq...06:35
Hobocopman I wish I could find why my starcraft runs so slow :(06:35
Burgundaviaxuxa, yep, for the install06:35
BurgundaviaHobocop, use windows for windows games?06:35
sobersabrehmmm uniq is supposed to be unique!06:35
nickrudxuxa, it's in universe06:35
sobersabredamn unix.06:35
Hobocopyeah I guess06:35
xuxaBurgundavia, nickrud : great!  Just thought I'd double-check06:36
xuxathank you!06:36
djm62sobersabre: I don't assume the things you think I assume ;)06:36
Hobocop:'(06:36
xuxanickrud: the "universe" is the full set of available packages?  (1000+, if I remember correctly?)06:36
dazedHobocop: i use cedega06:36
Bazzixuxa theres also multiverse06:36
HobocopBurgundavia: why must you shoot my dreams of a linux game to death :'(06:36
Hobocoplmao06:36
BurgundaviaHobocop, try glest06:36
asynicall anyone ever needs is foobillard and bzflag06:37
nickrudxuxa, universe is the 'free' software, multiverse is the non-free, and there's about 15,000 :)06:37
xuxanickrud: wow!  Great.  universe it is.06:37
Hobocopthank you internet06:37
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xuxaBazzi: thanks for the clarification.06:37
tritiumasynic, I don't ;)06:37
SeamusLPAlways feels good to help a linux gamer.06:37
BurgundaviaHobocop, I didn't, as starcraft is not a linux game06:37
asynictritium: :P06:37
dazedsupertux :)06:37
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HobocopI know it isnt, but it doesnt need to run terrible on a computer like mine06:38
HobocopI have a ok setup06:38
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ubuntuphilexuxa, you may need to add the universe package to your /etc/apt/sources.list file.  you just need to remove the ## in front of the repository you want to check06:38
dr_willischeck the wine and cedega forums - perhaps some tweek is needed06:38
dr_willisto get the game working at a better speed.06:38
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thullyOne of the great things about Ubuntu is that it has 15,000+ packages in main+universe+multiverse+restricted, no need to add all kinds of 3rd party sources (marillat is about the only one anyone might want that I can think of)06:39
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xuxaubuntulog: ok, great.  I'm hoping to install Ubuntu to the HD today and I'll make sure I've got the universe source in sources.list.  Thank you!06:39
dr_willisubuntuguide.org has a sample sources.list with  all of them allready there. :P06:40
tweekomg i was highlighted :O06:40
Burgundaviaxuxa, see www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:40
tritiumtweek, like this? ;)06:40
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thullyDebian has that too, but it's always in flux (as in, new versions of packages every day) and the major packages are older, even in sid (XFree 4.3+GNOME 2.8 in sid vs Xorg 6.8.2+GNOME 2.10 in Hoary)06:40
ubuntuphilexuxa, Ubuntu does not activate the universe repository by default, so you will need to go in and change the /etc/apt/sources.list file after you install.06:40
tweek:\06:41
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darkauditthully: IIRC Sarge was going to release with GNOME *2.4* :(06:41
djm62horrible06:42
xuxaubuntulog: I see... after an initial install, one only has the most basic system from the "main" repository, I take it.06:42
Burgundaviadark, actually 2.8 I think06:42
ubuntuphilexuxa--you got it!06:42
djm62is there any chance of ubuntu speeding debian releases up?06:43
xuxaubuntulog: yay!  that's rare.  :)06:43
darkauditBurgundavia: it took a bit of hollering for 2.8 to get moved to Sarge... it was sitting in experimental for a couple months before it finally moved06:43
holycowdjm62, after sarge, yes06:43
Burgundaviadark, indeed06:43
dr_willispeople are addicted to releases every other day! egads... :P the insanity.06:43
nickrudxuxa, main is the stuff that ubuntu promises to keep up to date security-wise06:43
Burgundaviadjm62, quite possibly06:43
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xuxanickrud: I see.06:43
djm62dr_willis: it's part of the fun ;)06:43
darkauditdr_willis: I'm just waiting for the gtk update so my file-roller bug will be fixed06:44
xuxanickrud: is a comparison to Debian's "stable" apt?  (note the pun!)06:44
dr_willisdjm62,  i got gnome 2.8.0.0.0.0.0.01 neiner neiner! :P06:44
xuxa:)06:44
nickrudxuxa, that's a valid comparison :)06:44
djm62anyone used openclipart.org ?06:44
dr_willisdrats .02 is out now! lol.06:44
holycowdjm62, the work done on ubuntu is supposed to be rolled back to sarge, as their social policies allow/dd's like06:44
xuxadjm62: Just a bit.  My friend contributed a few logos.06:44
xuxasomething with cats.  :)06:44
holycowdjm62, also ubuntu is frozen OFF OF debian unstable every 6 months, i don't see a permanent 'fork' being created, ssay in the way mandrake forked off of redhat06:45
djm62xuxa: if you view the larger directories in nautilus and gthumb, do they crash?06:45
Super_Cat_Frogis it possible to mask a single version of a package, like in gentoo "echo =catagory/app-1.2.3 >> /etc/portage/package.mask"?06:45
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xuxadjm62: let me try gthumb... my apt on this system is pretty messed up so I can't try nautilus... Just a sec.06:45
djm62holycow: it's not forking I was worried about so much as ubuntu hurting debian or debian slowing ubuntu06:45
holycowdjm62, so yeah, and the new debian project lead stated he wants the two groups to work closely together, debians current problem is not ctually releasing sarge, but releasing sarge on all 11 platforms06:45
hypnoSuper_Cat_Frog what does masking mean?06:45
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holycowdjm62, don't be selfish06:46
xuxadjm62: hrm.  gthumb is acting up as well.  I don't think my results will be very telling.06:46
holycowdjm62, the day ubuntu drops debian, is the day ubuntu dies06:46
djm62holycow: that's not selfish...I like both projects06:46
xuxadjm62: this is the first Debian system I installed about 3 years ago and since then as I've learned I've managed to mess everything up.  It's time for a reinstall.  :)06:47
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hypnoubuntu 'dropping' debian is almost conceptually impossible06:47
djm62holycow: but ubuntu will likely draw users from debian (maybe proportionally fewer developers) and users are lifeblood06:47
nickruddjm62, I see a lot of dd' lurking here :)06:47
Valentin-nickrud,  sorry my fast leaving, but I got problems with my pc and had to shut it down06:47
holycowdjm62, just keep in mind ubuntu 'freezes' debian unstable, ubuntu does not carry on, on their own, not even redhat can match the size and breadth of ubuntu and thus suggesting that debian might be holding back 'ubunttu' is both ludicrous and a little bit insulting06:47
nickrudValentin-, np06:48
holycowdjm62, some say that, i don't see it06:48
djm62holycow: I intended to be neither ludicrous or insulting...I'll just stay passive :)06:48
ubuntuphileI can see some similarities between Ubuntu and Debian, an the relationship between Fedora and RedHat Enterprise--thought there are some important differences here, too.06:48
hypnoits not like that at all (i hope)06:48
djm620_006:48
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holycowdjm62, i see ubuntu as two things: proof that debian can do time based releases, at least on the pc, and and example of how an organization can take the heat off of the main dd's06:48
erpelhello06:49
djm62people are touchy animals :-/06:49
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holycowdjm62, take it for what it is, it's only my point of view, but don't forget that people work on debian for the love of it, and ubuntu employs a lot of dd's, therefore to not be carefull about comments on one or the other project can be taken personally06:49
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nickrudespecially when you touch their babies :)06:49
holycowdjm62, note: i'm not a dd but i am protective of debian :)06:50
xuxanickrud: hehe06:50
Burgundaviaubuntuphile, fedora is a test ground for RHEL, and nothing more. Ubuntu si much more than a test ground for Debian06:50
djm62holycow: I'd hate to kill any sacred cows...but there's always a possibility of any two entities becoming mutually antagonistic, and I don't think things succeed accidentally06:50
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flyingsquirrel54heres an easy one. Where's fstab?06:51
hypnogpl will sort it out ;)06:51
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Burgundavia/etc/06:51
erpel/etc/fstab06:51
dazed/etc/06:51
djm62I don't think they have to be, and I don't want them to be...but I'm free to worry about it06:51
holycowdjm62, sure, thats why i'm suggesting you phrase things constructively perhaps? karma and all that :)06:51
Burgundaviahypno, gpl does not sort out people yelling at each other06:51
flyingsquirrel54wow 3 answers in less than 3 secs!06:51
nickruddjm62, holycow, the most hopeful sign I see is that ubuntu and debian's ftp-masters overlap06:51
erpeldo you know anythin official about a usb-mass-storage bug in hoary?06:51
holycowdjm62, oh ubuntu and debian are inseperable, the day ubuntu officiall forks permanently off of debian is the day it dies06:51
Burgundaviaerpel, I would check the bugzilla, but I haven't heard much06:52
djm62holycow: I started by asking how ubuntu might help debian...and then responded by saying I hoped they wouldn't harm each other06:52
Burgundaviadjm62, there is no way ubuntu can handle all the packages that the dd's do06:52
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hypnoholycow aye, ubuntu have just tweaked and prodded at debian, ubuntu is not up to the task of making a whole distribution, not by a long shot06:52
holycowdjm62, it's okay dude, i'm not attacking you :) your comments are fine, i meant no disrespect06:52
Burgundavianot many people are up to making a whole distro06:53
Valentin-nickrud,  what do I have to change in synaptic to get multiverse?06:53
erpeli saw several forum posts with a problem similar to mine and there is a bug filed at bugzilla but i don't know if its really an bug in hoary or just some random error06:53
Burgundaviathat is why a lot of distros loack polish06:53
Burgundavianickrud, settings-->repositories06:53
nickrudValentin-, are you back to the repositories in synaptic06:53
BurgundaviaValentin-, settings-->repositories06:53
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Valentin-got it06:53
BurgundaviaValentin-, click add06:53
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hypnoaye, it makes sense to have one set of people specialise on the base of the system and the server side and another set for the desktop eyecandy bits06:53
Valentin-okay06:54
BurgundaviaValentin-, select the bottom of tick box06:54
thr1ceman...new font update in breezy is amazing06:54
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whnpthr1ce, can you explain more?06:54
Valentin-Ubuntu updates?06:54
ningohow do i change the standard encoding in gnome?06:54
thr1ceexplain?  um...it looks nicer?06:54
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dr_willis:)06:55
MrNonchalantIs there a graphical version of sudo?06:55
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dr_williswhats breezy doing differently?06:55
MarkrianMrNonchalant, gksudo06:55
erpelgsudo i think06:55
erpelgk sorry06:55
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sobersabreMrNonchalant, yes, windows XP06:55
cyphaselol06:55
sobersabre;)06:55
Valentin-Burgundavia,  you mean ubuntu updates06:55
thr1cenot much...my fonts looked bad when I first installed hoary; pretty good now with the update that just went through06:55
MrNonchalantsobersabre: lol06:55
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nickrudValentin-, no, hoary hedgehog, and tick the checkbox called multiverse06:56
MrNonchalantsobersabre: I'd prefer not to boot there to install apps onto Ubuntu ;)06:56
Valentin-ah okay06:56
BurgundaviaValentin-, yep06:56
sobersabreok.. .see u all later.06:56
MrNonchalantMarkrian: Thanks.06:56
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nickrudValentin-, and after it updates, java-package will be available06:57
pippopappocome mai quando apro un file con scite questo vieni visualizzato con un font schifoso?06:57
Valentin-that means, if I saw it right, that I am allowd by system to download and install specific packages06:57
pippopappovoi che settaggi avete?06:57
Valentin-:)06:57
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Valentin-ah okay hehe06:57
nickrudValentin-, yes, hit control-F, and search for java-package06:59
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Haohmaruwhere do I find the config file for the default videosystem (I need it so I can get libvga.config look the same)07:00
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djm61sometimes you just can't say anything right...later all ;)07:01
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thr1ceheya ikaro07:01
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Valentin-nickrud,  next problem: Couldn't determine gcc system type <- I am so sorry that I got that less experience07:03
nickrudValentin-, install build-essential07:03
BurgundaviaValentin-, 4.3.5 if you use hoary07:03
asynicValentin-: apt-get install build-essential07:03
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Valentin-okay07:03
thr1ceno, 3.3.507:03
Valentin-okay got 3.3.507:04
no0tic/proc/cpuinfo shows correct cpu freq values but in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq the value is not the same...07:04
nickrudValentin-, did you install fakeroot yet?07:05
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erpelis there a way to completely downgrade to warty without reinstalling?07:05
keffohm, anyone wanna help some? i believe something is wrong with flashplayer in linux.. tell me what you see, http://smh03.lbs.se/smh03john/flash/07:05
Valentin-nickrud,   fakeroot make-jpkg /home/johannes/downloads/jdk-1_5_0_02-linux-i586-rpm.bin like that?07:05
Haohmarukeffo: a login screen07:05
nickrudValentin-, exactly07:05
keffook07:05
keffogreat07:05
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keffoHaohmaru, try type something, in username for example.. do you see what yuo write?07:05
Valentin-nickrud,  did it No matching plugin was found.07:06
Valentin-Removing temporary directory: done07:06
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Haohmarukeffo : I cannot type anything (nor do I see what I type) the buttons don't seem to work either07:06
nickrudValentin-, anything else in the error?07:06
ChoubakaGrr.07:07
ChoubakaMy printer isn't working again :p07:07
keffook, thing is.. you type something.. theres a big bug in flashplayer or summit07:07
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keffotry usr1 pwd107:07
keffoit works07:07
keffoyou just dont see what you write07:07
Haohmarukeffo : ah now I see a colourful 'crossword' screen07:08
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keffoyey07:08
keffoi got this bug on many many pages07:08
keffoand it sucks07:08
keffothat flashplayer doesnt really work07:08
thr1cekeffo, use windows07:08
SavvyPlayerno problems with flashplayer here07:09
keffoSavvyPlayer, so you see what you type in?07:09
keffothe username fields etc07:09
Ocidkeffo: works for me07:09
nickrudkeffo, which flashplayer did you install07:09
Valentin-nickrud,  no07:09
cevansFor acpi-support, is there some preferred way to make closing the lid do suspend to RAM besides mangling /etc/acpi/lid.sh?07:09
keffoi dont remember, might've been the one from the their site.. i dont remember actually07:09
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keffohow did you guys do?07:09
SavvyPlayersure do07:09
nickrudValentin-, try again from inside your download directory07:09
Valentin-okay, sec07:10
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Valentin-nickrud, same result07:11
kashhi everybody07:11
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nickrudValentin-, wait one, I'm doing here again07:11
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Valentin-yup07:11
dazed_df07:12
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nickrudValentin-, it's working here07:12
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Valentin-nickrud, okay wait checking it again07:13
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kashjust a small question...sometimes when i boot my laptop, it is blocked at a step where it is written "calculating if modules...." an then "loading if modules"and then, problem, the laptop is blocked and the own soltion is to reboot until the step is load... have you alredy seen it or do u have any idea???07:14
nickrudValentin-, you don't want the rpm.bin, you want the .bin (sorry, didn't look closely enough at your command line you posted)07:14
dt2hello07:14
kashfor info i have a hedghog versionwith amd 6407:14
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Valentin-nickrud,  yes07:14
dt2will an off-the-cd installation of hoary leave windowsxp alone?07:14
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erolhi people07:14
dt2and dual-boot?07:14
erolmodules howto install ubuntu linux07:15
nickrudValentin-, the part about the diff between rpm.bin and .bin?07:15
Valentin-nickrud,  I have to unpack my bin to a .deb or?07:15
danonlinedotnetdt2: yes.07:15
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erpelshould work. if you choose the right partitions07:15
danonlinedotnetdt2: Just make sure you partition correctly.07:15
dt2i already have 3 ext3fs partitions (ex-mandrake)07:15
nickrudValentin-, you have the wrong java bin :)07:15
kashnobody ??07:15
Valentin-hehe okay07:15
Valentin-min.07:15
Luis_RHello, I am new to Linux, and I'm afraid I cannot find the instructions on how to mount my USB Devices07:15
dt2hda1=win c, hda2=win d07:15
Luis_RI need help07:15
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dt2hda3=/ hda4=swap hda5=/home07:15
dt2can that be maintained?07:16
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nickrudValentin-, it should work once you get the right one. I gotta go, if you have more problems someone here will pick up the slack07:16
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erpelthink so07:16
dt2there's data i'd like to keep on hda507:16
thr1ceLuis_R, udev will probably take care of it for you if you're on 2.6.xx kernel07:16
Valentin-nickrud,  thanks a lot07:16
erpel@dt207:16
nickrudValentin-, np07:16
kashnobody ??07:16
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cevansdt: Rather sure it can, I'm using a similar setup, and maintained my home partition during install.07:16
Luis_Rhow come i cannot access them?07:16
danko123456danko123456: hah07:16
erolanyone help me pls!!!07:16
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danonlinedotnetkash: I use a laptop and haven't seen that.07:16
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danko123456erol: whats up?07:17
kashdo u ave a 64 ??07:17
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danonlinedotnetkash: Of course, I use a 32 bit architecture...07:17
erolmodules howto install07:17
kashhummmmm..07:17
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danonlinedotnetkash: Does this only happen sometimes?07:17
danko123456erol: hm..what modules?07:18
dt2cevans: mandrake's left lilo in place, i understand ubuntu uses grub?07:18
kashit s horible i always have to reboot 3 times until it runs07:18
cevansdt2: yes.07:18
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Luis_Rthrlce, Why can't I see the devices07:18
eroleagle-usb07:18
kashno it open often07:18
kashno it hapen often07:18
kashsorry07:18
danonlinedotnetnp07:18
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erpelLuis_R type dmesg after you plugged in the device07:18
danko123456is it in your sources?07:18
danko123456can you see it in apt?07:19
chazwurthHas anyone gotten dual-head displays to work using the nv driver for an nvidia card? On a laptop in particular?07:19
dt2cevans: v impressed with hoary live cd. only distrib i've tried that detects all sony laptop hardware and wireless. great07:19
danonlinedotnetHave you been able to find reports of poeple with your architecture having the same problem?07:19
Luis_Rerpel in terminal?07:19
erpelyes07:19
kashno07:19
erpelmaybe that you have to type sudo dmesg on ubuntu @ Luis_R07:19
cevansdt2: It is the only distribution that will get my laptop to sleep properly without changing scripts, though I still have to have a custom-patched kernel.07:19
danko123456erol: can you see that module in your synaptic/apt?07:19
whnpchazwurth, I am trying to do that very thing07:19
dt2cevans: nice07:19
Luis_Rerpel, I'll try that now07:19
whnpexcept with an i810 card07:20
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chazwurthwhnp: Any luck?07:20
ska-fanARe the cds from shipit.u.c shipping yet?07:20
eroldanko123456 : i instaled from tar.gz07:20
danonlinedotnetdt2: I was really impressed, too. The install on my Thinkpad asked only my keyboard layout and partition info, and sound, wifi, suspend-to-disk, and a bunch of other stuff just work.07:20
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erolmodprobe doesnt work07:20
whnpchazwurth, have not started on it yet07:20
danko123456well, try the one from the repo.07:20
whnpjust begining to read07:20
danko123456It is there.07:20
danko123456Some of it anyhow...theres mention.07:21
whnpbest docs right now are in the laptop-projector howto07:21
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dt2cevans: just to confirm; install will let me choose what partition to install to, and create suitable dual-bootness? a stiffed wxp would be A Bad Thing07:21
danonlinedotnetdt2: In my experience, yes.07:21
chazwurthwhnp: Me too, but what I've seen so far is discouraging. Everyone says to use the nvidia drivers instead of nv, but my laptop won't suspend properly if I use those.07:21
cevansdt2: It should.07:21
ChoubakaHmm07:21
danko123456ChowBakah.07:21
danko123456:)07:21
Choubakaanyone here with vesafb-tng and nvidia working together?07:22
chazwurthwhnp: Haven't seen that howto. Is it on the wiki?07:22
danonlinedotnetdt2: It let me edit the partition table, set labels for the various partitions (which it found from my previous linux install), and installed itself into the parition lableled /07:22
Choubakaalso, anyone here who could make my damn printer work? :(07:22
cevansdt2: Yes - looking at my /boot/grub/menu.lst, the installer automatically added a Windows boot option.07:22
Luis_Rerpel, I did that and it seemed to have gone through some kind of process, what is my next step?07:22
danonlinedotnetdt2: The grub install detected winxp and asked if I wanted to add an entry for it.07:22
navreetUbuntu rox07:22
kashi have also another prob with gnome... it can't run and writte a msg on the desktop "can't initalize HAL connection", Any idea ??07:22
danko123456Choubaka: whats your printer?07:22
dt2danon/cev: looks like i've found a suitable replacement for mdk. always have liked the idea of debian and apt07:22
Choubakadanko123456: BJC-430007:23
danonlinedotnetkash: does kde work?07:23
Choubakalinuxprinting.org lists it as working "perfectly"07:23
whnpno, its a general linux howto ... search google for it.07:23
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kashyes im now under kde07:23
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cevanskash: Does /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart give an error?07:24
danko123456Choubaka: thats a Canon, right?07:24
nydusti have apache 2 installed but i can acces it.07:24
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kashwait i see07:24
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Choubakadanko123456: yes.07:24
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chazwurthwhnp: Cool, will do.07:24
danko123456Choubaka: how do you have it connected, USB?07:24
dt2danon/cev: many thanks.07:24
danonlinedotnetsure.07:25
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Choubakadanko123456: parallel :p07:25
kashyes there isan error start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 6997: Operation not permitted [ ok ] 07:25
kashrm: ne peut enlever `/var/run/dbus/pid': Permission non accorde07:25
danko123456Choubaka: sweet...07:25
danko123456Choubaka: so...have you got Hoary?07:25
cevanskash: Oh, you need to run that as root.07:25
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danonlinedotnetBut doesn07:25
kashok07:25
danonlinedotnet't that happen during boot?07:25
Choubaka"Color inkjet printer, max. 720x360 dpi, works Perfectly"07:26
Choubakaperfectly my arse. :P07:26
danko123456Choubaka: hoary?07:26
ChoubakaYes.07:26
danko123456Choubaka: good, have you tried through the System Menu->administration?07:26
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kash* Stopping Hardware abstraction layer:                                  [ ok ] 07:26
kash * Stopping system message bus:                                          [ ok ] 07:26
kash * Starting system message bus:                                          [ ok ] 07:26
kash * Starting Hardware abstraction layer:07:26
kash/usr/sbin/hald already running.07:26
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kashrun-parts: /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal exited with return code 107:26
danko123456Printing, select port, forward, select brand, find model, next, finish...07:26
kashis it an error ?07:26
ningohow do i change the standard encoding in gnome?07:27
dockaneis there sombody inhere who knows gpart ?07:27
Choubakadanko123456: Well, yes and no.07:27
ChoubakaI don't have Gnome07:27
cevanskash: Not sure. /usr/sbin/hald should have been killed when the script stopped HAL.07:27
Choubakabut I ran gnome-cups-manager07:27
danko123456heh07:27
danko123456well...07:27
kashhow can i do ??07:27
danko123456Choubaka: ok, if its the same thing...07:27
danko123456you should try that, its easy...UI think it shoudl work,.07:28
Choubakait doesn't. :P07:28
cevanskash: do you have this problem all the time?07:28
ChoubakaIt detected the printer at one point.07:28
ChoubakaDidn't work.07:28
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nydusthow do i install apache like it was the firsttime, deleate all the conf files ect?07:28
kashys07:28
ChoubakaNow it doesn't even detect the printer anymore.07:28
kashyes07:28
danko123456Is the driver there? you found it on the list?07:28
danko123456why do you not have gnome?07:28
ChoubakaBecause I don't like it07:29
Choubakaand Yes, the driver is in the list.07:29
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jeroen_nydust: re-install it?07:29
danko123456whats there not to have about it.07:29
danko123456heh07:29
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danko123456Serious, try that, it should work, it even detects the printer for you.07:29
danko123456gnome-panekl.07:29
cevanskash: I'm don't know then. You could try killing hald manually, and then restarting dbus, but that would probably only fix the problem if it was just occuring on this session, and not all the time.07:29
Choubakadanko123456: ... it doesn't.07:29
danko123456Its the Danko123456 show.07:29
nydustjeroen_,  yeah07:29
ChoubakaI ran gnome-cups-manager07:30
Choubakaseveral times07:30
kashsee at this lnk i have exactly the same prob https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986407:30
Choubakatried different settings.07:30
Choubakato no avail.07:30
danko123456hm, yeah, youre f...ed:)07:30
Puckaroohi, i just installed mplayer, and i'm trying to watch a video, everything seems fine and works, but when i try to go full screen, the video stays the same size and a couple of black bands appear around it to cover the resto of the screen07:30
danko123456jj.07:30
ChoubakaI was able to print a test page. _once_07:30
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Puckaroocan anyone please tell me how to stretch the image?07:30
nydustjeroen_, i have tryed with synaptic reinstall but it seems like som old config still are there07:30
kashi don't understand anything07:30
nydustjeroen_, i dont get my apache to work07:30
bronsonPuckaroo: you need to change your vo.07:31
danko123456Puckaroo: maybe you are running another software that uses the video out.07:31
jeroen_nydust: can you delete the configs manually, then use synaptic?07:31
bronsontry myplayer -vo xv07:31
ze_angelowhats good combo scan/printer that works with linux my laxmark x 85 is no no for anyof it07:31
bronsonIf your video card supports it...07:31
Puckaroook i'll try that07:31
danko123456bronson: right.07:31
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Puckarooyup it's working now. thank you very much07:32
bronsonPuckaroo: you can put that in your .mplayer/conf file to make it automatic.07:32
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bronsonze_angelo: I've had good luck with the Epsons.07:32
Puckaroobut it only streches the images if i specify it from the ommand line, is there any way to make it do it when i start from the gui?07:33
jeroen_nydust: Or maybe try "complete removal" (not sure what that does though :P )07:33
danko123456:)07:33
rj-I have a question, I have a computer that is dual b ooting windows xp and ubuntu breezy, I just got my hands on a newer/better computer, So i unplugged the harddrive out of my existing setup, and installed it in the new computer (its the only harddrive in the new computer) I turn on the computer and i see my grub menu listing all my kernels and my windows installation, When i try to boot a kernel i get a VFS PANIC, when i try to boot into windows I get a bl07:33
danko123456ronson: Puckaroo: you can put that in your .mplayer/conf file to make it automatic.07:33
ze_angeloThank you bronson for info07:33
rj-How do i fix this, i do not want to re-install.07:33
bronsonBut I just got a free C86 with my new mac mini and it *sucks*.  So I'm no longer the biggest Epson fan...07:33
cevansrj-: You can run breezy?07:33
IceEyzThose link emblems on mounted HD's and shortcuts... are these annoying green arrows removable? :)07:33
Puckarooi'll give it a try07:34
Puckaroothanx07:34
danko123456I have an epson, and am not a Fan.07:34
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Burgundaviarj-, I am surprised that linux does that, it should just work. However, windows, hmm.07:34
bronsondanko123456: what kind?07:34
rj-cevans: ya, no problems, i hal got hosed and i lost evolution.07:34
bronsonMy C80 is great.07:34
danko123456multi cx540007:34
danko123456they are ok...07:34
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danko123456just...have you tried elaving it with no inki in it?07:34
thr1cehm...anyone know where firefox extensions are kept ?07:34
danko123456it cloggs up..07:34
Burgundaviarj-, hal is probably why your system didn't work when you changed machines07:34
danko123456no warning...07:34
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bronsonProblem is, printers & scanners are now like cell phones...07:35
bronsonThe ALL suck!07:35
stuNNedlol07:35
bronsonNot one manufacturer makes a good one anymore.07:35
rj-Burgundavia: that's a good point. has anyone figured out what happend to hal in breezy?07:35
Burgundaviarj-, if you had hal, it proabably would have worked07:35
danko123456yeah, I guess...I bought a bigger one, like almost office \size...07:35
Burgundaviarj-, the devs start the conference 25th07:35
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Burgundaviarj-, expect lots of changes around then07:35
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cevansBurgundavia, rj-: Though would that cause a kernel panic?07:35
rj-ya, i dont know about that, the kernel panic is happening immmedialty07:36
Burgundaviamight be borked kernel in breezy as well07:36
dockaneze_angelo, I am pretty happy with my 2nd hand kyocera 1750 and epson 3200 (could be 9800 if you are in the us)07:36
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rj-nah, i didn't do any kernel upgrades in breezy07:36
rj-I'am still running the same kernel 2.6.10 from hoary07:36
cevansrj-: When does it panic?07:37
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Puckarooit's working now07:37
Puckaroothanx a lot07:37
rj-cevans: let me boot it up again, hang tight.07:37
danko123456thanx bronson07:37
Puckaroobbye07:37
danko123456:)07:37
danko123456bye07:37
ze_angelothanks Doc keep that in mind getting so sick windows and prod actvate stuff why looking at linux more07:37
danko123456puckaroo, nice nicl07:37
danko123456k07:37
dockanebronson: buy the old stuff 2nd hand. the better hardware from yesterday is the good one from today.07:37
danko123456nice...07:38
thr1cenoone knows where firefox extensions are ?07:38
cevansWhen I try to dist-upgrade I get a size-mismatch with libdbh1.0. Does anyone know about this problem?07:38
danko123456thr1ce: like on the web?07:38
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IceEyzThose link emblems on mounted HD's and shortcuts... are these annoying green arrows removable? :)07:38
danko123456there is a #mozilla on....some IRC server..07:38
thr1ceno07:39
thr1ceon my ubuntu system, where are they stored07:39
thr1ceI installed a bad one that's screwing thinsg up07:39
dbalsterthrlce: normally in your $HOME/.mozilla07:39
nydusti get dzhandle command not found in synaptic. what is that?07:39
danko123456IceEyz: are you talking about icons in your gnome?07:39
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chopperhow can i install a file .deb?07:40
danko123456dpkg...07:40
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danko123456something like that.07:40
IceEyzdanko123456 yup, shortcuts07:40
thr1cedbalster, that's what I thought; i rm -rf'ed it, and it's still causing problems07:40
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Burgundaviachopper, what are you trying to install?07:40
nydustchopper, dpkg -i yourfile.dep07:40
danko123456well, right click, properties, change icon.07:40
thr1cereinstalled firefox, and that did nothing07:40
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chopperBurgundavia, amsn 0.9407:40
danko123456thr1ce: cause you still have th ~/mozilla07:40
Linforcerhey anyone know where I can find a list of symbols and their xkb names?07:40
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Burgundaviachopper, use apt-get. It is in a repo07:41
thr1cedanko123456, no; I just said that I rm -rf 'ed ~/.mozilla07:41
Burgundaviachopper, or synaptic07:41
IceEyzdanko, I did choose other icons...in fact, it's on every icon I select if it's a mounted device.. Green arrow emblem07:41
chopperBurgundavia, doesn't work the version on synaptic07:41
chaitatphi guys, how can i login to microsoft vpn server: i am using ubuntu and has installed openvcd already07:41
Burgundaviachopper, hmm07:41
chaitatpopenvcn*07:41
chaitatpopenvpn*07:42
rj-cevans: ok the kernel starts booting up shows it detecting the harddrive as hda then i get a error about pivot_root: no such file or directory and then Kernel Panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init.07:42
dbalsterthrlce: could depend on your profile, maybe there are some settings in /etc/mozilla-firefox..?07:42
chopperBurgundavia, i'll use dpkg but in where is it installed?07:42
danko123456IceEyz: like what file?07:42
Burgundaviachopper, same method as synatpic07:42
Burgundaviachopper, they use a common backend07:42
danko123456how do you make a shortcut...07:42
danko123456:)07:42
chopperBurgundavia, thanx07:42
dbalsterchaitatp: install pptp and read http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/ (very good)07:42
chaitatpdbalster, i will try07:43
chaitatpdbalster, thanks a lot07:43
cevansrj-: The only thing I could think of would be that /etc/fstab has some problem, but I have never heard of pivot_root. Breezy is probably doing something strange.07:43
rj-for the record the file system is reiserfs07:43
dbalsterchaitatp: the debian part works for ubuntus as well :-)07:43
danko123456IceEyz: there is a tab in properties, tried removing it there?07:43
IceEyzdanko: Mounted devices, S-ATA, P-ATA, NTFS and Fat32, but not on network shares, home, computer or normal files... If I create a shortcut on those devices, the same arrow gets there as well.07:43
rj-cevans: I dont know, this seems to be all in kernel land.07:43
ChoubakaI feel like throwing that fscking printer out of the window07:43
IceEyzit's not in there07:43
chopperis there an app like mc???07:43
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danko123456IceEyz: tough:)07:43
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thr1ceno, I've tried removing my profile too; nothing07:44
thr1ceugh...this sucks07:44
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danko123456thr1ce: you know the #mozilla channel on that other IRC server?07:44
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thr1cedanko123456, this is ubuntu specific; every distro stores user settings in different places07:45
bhnais http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/ down?07:45
pawallsHey guys, I upgraded to breezy badger, and when I try to install evolution-data-server, I get an error claiming that "libcamel1.2-3" is depended on, but won't be installed.07:45
nksenlo. normally ubuntu's X should be ready-configured for all systems, shouldn't it?07:45
danko123456breezy badger?07:45
danko123456haha, thats a first07:45
pawallsI manually installed said libcamel package and tried to install evolution-data-server again, but I get the same error.07:45
danko123456awesome.07:45
nksendoes it come with xfree or s.org?07:45
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nksenx.org07:45
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pawallsAnyone have any idea how to resolve this problem?07:46
danko123456thr1ce: so you are saying /etc/mozilla-firefox/profile/extensions dont have them?07:46
Burgundaviapawalls, this in breezy?07:46
pawallsBurgundavia, Yes.07:46
dbalsterpawalls: manually install == configure ; make ; make install  or dpkg ?07:47
thr1cedanko123456, I deleted the entire profile dir from /etc/mozilla-firefox, and everything still loaded with my bookmarks, extensions, etc.07:47
danko123456nice.07:47
thr1ceno, it's not07:47
pawallsdbalster, That somewhat defeats the purpose of using a package management system.07:47
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danko123456iguess, if you really need to use mozilla-firefox right now:)07:47
pawallsI need a way to resolve this silly dependency conflict.07:47
RaskallI simply love FreeNX. Then I get to work on my own profile on an ubuntu server when my wife occupies my computer with watching Lost episodes.07:48
dbalsterthrlce: sure you are working as the same user?07:48
pawallsevolution-data-server: Depends: libcamel1.2-3 (>= 1.2.2)07:48
Saiqagermans here? pls qery to me07:48
pawallsSetting up libcamel1.2-3 (1.2.2-1ubuntu1) ...07:48
pawallsUnelss by some magic, 1.2.2-1ubuntu1 is < 1.2.207:48
dbalsterpawalls: have you trieds to apt-get install libcamel=1.2-307:48
nydustWhy doesnt synaptic install the apache2.conf file?07:49
pawallsdbalster, Yes, view what I pasted above.07:49
nydustits missing, thats why my apache is not working07:49
pawallspawalls:/var/lib/dpkg# apt-cache show libcamel1.2-3 | grep "Version: "07:49
pawallsVersion: 1.2.2-1ubuntu107:49
Raskallnydust: where are you looking for it? apache2.conf got finely installed in /etc/apache207:50
pawallspawalls:/var/lib/dpkg# apt-get install evolution-data-server | grep Depends07:50
pawalls  evolution-data-server: Depends: libcamel1.2-3 (>= 1.2.2) but it is not going to be installed07:50
danko123456yeah, should be there.07:50
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dbalsterpawalls: try to rebuild it from source to check if the package is missing or if it's a fault of the package maintainer.07:50
nydustRaskall, i was looking in /ect/apache207:50
pawallssomething about that doesn't make sense.07:50
nydustRaskall, but its not there07:50
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nydustRaskall, when i do a /usr/sbin/apache2 restart it says it dont find the file07:51
pawallsdbalster, It's obviously the package maintainer's fault.. There is some impossible dependency here.07:51
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pawallsdbalster, libcamel1.2-3 installed fine with all headers and shared objects.07:51
nubbeHow come that nautilus thinks that ALL .WMVs are actually .ASFs?07:51
dbalsterpawalls: apt-get -b source.deb , then edit source/debian/control and *hack* the dependency07:51
pawallspawalls:/var/lib/dpkg# dpkg -L libcamel1.2-3 | wc -l07:51
pawalls4207:51
pawallsAh.. okay07:52
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leafwHi. Anyone using powerpc and aiport (not extreme) and got the wireless working with encryption ?07:52
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pawallsdbalster, I'll give that a shot..07:53
Raskallnydust: try "sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2" and then "sudo apt-get install apache2" from the command line.07:53
spo0nmanhas anyone gotten wireless working on the HP compaq nc6000?07:53
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holycowhttp://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/58780  <-- holy shit07:53
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nydustRaskall, hope it works!!!07:54
Raskallnydust: good luck. the first command removes apache2 completely and the second reinstalls it.07:54
Raskallspo0nman: I tried one briefly a long time ago and think I got it to work with ndiswrapper.07:54
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\shspo0nman: i don't have a wireless card in my nc600007:55
spo0nmanRaskall, hmm.. whats a ndiswrapper doc?07:55
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\shspo0nman: but did u get irda running?07:55
chopperwhat is a superuser? how can i make mine like that?07:55
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spo0nman\sh, some come with one... do you have a button between the lock and the slidshow icon? hit it? and see in dmesg07:56
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Raskallspo0nman: its a linux module that uses the winxp-drivers to use wireless nets. ndiswrapper module is there by default from kernel 2.6.10-5.07:56
spo0nman\sh, nah! havent found a use for it yet.07:56
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nydustRaskall, now i have the apache2.conf but still not working07:56
spo0nmanRaskall, and the driver? i need to copy it out of XP?07:56
zAo^chopper: a superuser is root. Use SUDO as command07:56
Raskallspo0nman: yes.07:56
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\shspo0nman: syncing the cell ;)07:57
spo0nmanRaskall, hmm ... no XP07:57
Raskallnydust: have you started it from /etc/init.d?07:57
nydustRaskall, yes07:57
chopperzAo^, when i try to dpkg a .deb file i have to be a superuser, but when i go as root, i have an error07:57
spo0nman\sh, no irda cell :D07:57
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Raskallnydust: should work.07:57
tritiumchopper, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:57
Markrianchopper, what's the command you're using07:58
IceEyzAnyone else knows how to get rid of the default emblems for symbolic links and mounted devices?07:58
chopperi made it work, thanx all of u07:58
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Raskallspo0nman: I think you may use unzip to retrieve some drivers. Just try running unzip on the .exe install file. Download the driver from hp website.07:58
nydustRaskall, i will try to take an remove --purge on everything with apache207:58
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b0olname of a good cd writing programm?07:59
b0olpls07:59
zAo^chopper: what error?07:59
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Raskallnydust: sounds like a good idea.07:59
spo0nmanRaskall, hmm i'll try07:59
pawallsdbalster, Hmm.. it doesn't specifically say a version of libcamel1.2-3 to depend on.07:59
zAo^nm07:59
pawallsdbalster, Where is it getting the >= 1.2.2 from?07:59
nickrudb0ol, graveman, gnomebaker, and nautilus07:59
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Raskallnydust: do a "dpkg -l |grep apache2"  to see all  your apache2 related installed packages07:59
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MatyyHi, can someone help me with my little KDE problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2817908:00
pawallsdbalster, Hmm.. it looks like it's using @VER@ (the version of evolution-data-server to base it's dependency on libcamel1.2-308:00
b0olnautilus?08:00
pawallsdbalster, And I have the right version of libcamel1.2-3 installed..08:00
pawallsThis is silly..08:00
Raskallnydust: but I guess you will have to open apache2.conf and do some initial config. The comments should tell you what you need to change.08:00
nubbeb0ol, nautilus is barebones but has worked really good for me08:00
dbalsterhmm.. checking...08:00
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thr1cenoone knows where firefox extensions are stored in ubuntu08:01
pawallsAnyone else here using Breezy?08:01
thr1cei am08:01
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pawallsthr1ce, Any issues with evolution?08:01
nickrudb0ol, right click on an iso to burn it, or enter burn: in the location bar and drag n drop. It doesn't do audio, though.08:01
Raskallpawalls: are you? is it ok to use? I have started a dist-upgrade 2-3 times, but have chickend out and abortedit.08:01
XplOzIonhi all08:01
zAo^lo08:02
nydustRaskall, finnaly its working08:02
Raskallnydust: :) good.08:02
nydustRaskall, you are my hero08:02
pawallsRaskall, Besides this issue with evolution, it's been fine.. not really many updates at the moment so it might not be worth it.08:02
Raskallnydust: *blush*08:02
de_DustyCitiHi~ I'm currently running Ubuntu Live and have install CD img on hd. Could someone point me a way to install ubuntu without mking another CD?08:02
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thr1cepawalls, no, don't use it08:02
pawallsRaskall, Most of the stuff I've seen upgraded is little things like ntp and other little libraries.08:02
pawallsthr1ce, Do you have it installed?08:02
Raskallpawalls: I was told it would be quite rough 2-3 weeks. I am in the process of starting my own business, so I need a working workstation. :)08:03
thr1cepawalls, yes08:03
chopperanyone tried the game "cube"?08:03
thr1cewait, no; it removed itself08:03
zAo^no but it looks nice :)08:03
pawallsthr1ce, Yeah.. that's what happened to me.08:03
nickrudb0ol, to be more clear, drag & drop to create a data cd08:03
pawallsthr1ce, Then I couldnt' reinstall.08:03
thr1cepawalls, use thunderbird08:03
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pawallsthr1ce, Yeah.. that's all fine and dandy except I have about 50 filters set up in evolution.08:04
pawallsthr1ce, At work.08:04
pawallsCan Thunderbird import evolution filters?08:04
thr1cenot sure; try it out08:04
RaskallI started to hate evolution from version 2. Not sure why, but it was something that just wasnt right. So I switched to thunderburd. Miss palm syncing of my adress book, but that I can do to evolution, export to cvs and import to thunderbird.08:05
Raskallexport to csv, even.08:05
de_DustyCitiHi~ I'm currently running Ubuntu Live and have install CD img on hd. Could someone point me a way to install ubuntu from these things I have?08:05
Burgundaviade_DustyCiti, burn the install and run that08:06
hypnode_DustyCiti use gnome-baker to burn the iso to cd08:06
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RochaHello08:06
spo0nmande_DustyCiti, you need the install disk to install from.08:06
RochaHow can I use two monitors?08:06
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weazle-08:07
RochaIs there an easy way to configure this?08:07
de_DustyCitiThanks guys but the problem is that I don't have a cd recorder.08:07
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chopperany1 knows if "cube" the game, works on amd64?08:07
de_DustyCitiIs it possible to install from hd (like I did with FC3)?08:07
hypnoRocha yes, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24774&goto=nextnewest08:07
hypnoRocha erk that url's wrong08:07
geoffrianHowdy pilgrims08:08
lenovode_DustyCiti: Yes.08:08
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Rochahypno, that's not about two monitors :/08:08
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spo0nmanRocha, you have two display cards in the box?08:10
Rochaspo0nman, no, just one card with a dvi and vga connectors08:10
hypnoRocha http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4185 is more useful08:10
spo0nmanRocha, which one?08:10
Rochageforce mx 400 I think08:10
Rochamain monitor uses vga, secondary uses dvi08:11
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spo0nmanRocha, http://www.matrox.com/mga/multidisplay/cat_linux_user.cfm08:11
Rochaspo0nman, i'm not using a matrox08:12
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hypnoRocha are you sure it's a real dual head card?08:13
Rochayup, i'll try that thread you gave me08:13
spo0nmanRocha, whats MX supossed to be then?08:13
Rochaspo0nman, i don't know08:13
spo0nmanRocha, i guess matrox is the only one to support it yet.08:13
Rochaok, i'll try it anyway08:14
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b0olthnx nickrud08:15
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nickrudRocha, the Device section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf should tell you what driver and card you have, It should point you in the right direction08:16
nickrudb0ol, np08:16
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seekerI need help with skype. when I open skype all I get is a "click here to log in" line. when I try to log in it immidiatlly fails (without trying to connect). but the funny thing is I AM connected - other people see me as connected and can talk to me. any idea what I can do about this?08:19
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zaneis there an antivirus software for linux that is free?08:20
Rochahypno, I'll try restarting X now08:20
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hypnoshrug08:20
nickrudnickrud hopes Rocha don't see smoke08:21
mfinchAre there any graphical disk mounting tools for Ubuntu?  Something that would "scan for drives/partitions" and let me mount them without fstab entries.08:21
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Choubakazane: clamav & co?08:22
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JuNkPhreak|UnIx antivirus software for linux  any reson why you need it ? you runa mail server / ftp ?08:23
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vdohi08:24
goldfishhey vd08:24
goldfisho08:24
vdois ubuntu translated into catalam08:24
vdo?08:24
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seekerjust out of curiousity what is catalam?08:25
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vdoanyone knows?08:25
stianhhey people08:25
vdoa language08:25
vdo...08:25
seekerI meant where do they speak it?08:25
vdocatalonia08:25
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seekernever heard of it before ...08:25
vdou know barcelona?08:25
seekeryes08:25
vdobarcelona is in catalonia08:25
seekeroh.08:25
vdonot in spain08:25
vdoheheh08:25
djm62:)08:26
seekerdidn't know that08:26
stianhwhat?08:26
djm62I think gnome has l10n for it08:26
stianhbarcelona is in spain08:26
dovis`n CAtalonia part of spain ?08:26
vdoyes we'r a country withot state08:26
Jeezisdov: yes08:26
vdosomething like scotland08:26
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djm62read Orwell...08:26
vdohehe08:27
djm62vdo: not exactly...but scots like me have a lot of sympathy for the situation08:27
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Fulgpcmcia_socket0: unsupported voltage key.08:27
Jeezisis there a way to check the temperature of my laptop in ubuntu08:27
vdonot exactly08:27
stianhhey, so, i need to change something in alot of textfiles, is there a neato command I can use?08:27
seekerJeeves_, what temp? cpu tmp?08:27
vdodebian has a translation for08:28
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goldfishJeezis: lm-sensors08:28
Jeezisseeker: you mean me? yeah cpu temp08:28
seekerjeezis not jeeves08:28
WhiteRabbitJeeves_, lm-sensors08:28
seekerdamm nick autocomplete08:28
Jeezisi have a laptop and it feels quite warm after being on for about 4 days straight08:28
seekerthere is lm sensors08:28
seekeracpi08:28
\shany ubuntu apache2 users here?08:29
Fulgpcmcia_socket0: unsupported voltage key.08:29
WhiteRabbitJeezis, laptops are gonna be warm08:29
djm62Jeezis: I suspect that after four days it's reached equilibrium08:29
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Jeezisseeker: ok, so will lm-sensors will give me the cpu temp?08:29
goldfishyep08:30
seekerbasically yes - but you will want to find a software that does it for you using lm sensors08:30
seekerusing it yourself might be a bit difficult08:30
djm62xsensors?08:30
seekerjust a sec08:30
goldfishgdesklets is compatible with it i think?08:30
thenukeany ideas what small httpd to use which supports php and writes an access.log08:31
Jeezisis there an app that i can grab that will give me the readout of my acpi sensor?08:31
thenukethttpd does not support php by default, but writes access.log, thy supports php but does not log..08:31
djm62Jeezis: xsensors will do it...also gdesklets apparently08:31
seekeryes  try googling it. there should be lots of prog already out there08:31
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Jeezisok :) thanks for the help08:31
WhiteRabbitJeezis, http://download.freshmeat.net/screenshots/29030.jpg is this what your after?08:31
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seekeracpi gives you a standered link to the lm sensors08:32
seekerunfortunatly that standard link is very useful for ordinary users08:32
onnoWhen I want to play a .wmv movie wmvdmod.dll can't find!08:32
onnohow do I solve this?08:32
seekertry one of the progs recommended here or google it08:32
Fulgpcmcia_socket0: unsupported voltage key.08:32
onnosounds play's but no picture08:33
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seeker*should be - isn't very useful08:33
JeezisWhiteRabbit: yup, thanks :)08:33
rdekoeijerHI everybody08:33
rdekoeijerI (L) Ubuntu :)08:33
goldfishI <3 UBUNTU08:33
goldfish:)08:33
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Choubaka:)08:34
b0olwhat icq client do you prefer?08:34
b0oli hate gaim :x08:34
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Jeezishmmm, now what if xsensors is blank08:34
Jeezisi have it running, but it doesnt have anything in the window08:34
Seibolyeah gaim sucks08:34
rdekoeijergaim08:34
Seibolshould be gaym08:35
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goldfishhaha08:35
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b0olyep08:35
b0olgaym08:35
b0ol:D08:35
seekerhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=laptop+cpu+temp+monitoring++linux&spell=108:35
vdoworse is kopete08:35
vdoxD08:35
djm62Seibol: gay people are generally interoperable with most software :-/08:35
asynicb0ol: what do you hate about gaim?  (I'm not protecting it, just wondering what you're looking for in a client)08:35
vdowoh08:35
seekerJeezis,  see if there is anything there08:35
Seibolkopete sucks too08:35
seekerhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=laptop+cpu+temp+monitoring++linux&spell=108:35
b0olim looking for a trillian 2.0 pro similar client08:36
rdekoeijerwhat do you prefer then?08:36
b0oli can't see the post script08:36
b0oletc08:36
Seibolanyone running Ubuntu on a laptop08:36
b0oltrillian 2.0 on windows was perfekt for my purposes08:36
asynicb0ol: uh, yeah... be more specific.  I've never used trillian pro.08:36
b0olk sry08:36
zAo^b0ol: use kopete08:36
cens0redhmmm08:36
djm62Seibol: I am08:36
rdekoeijerbut on linux?08:36
cens0redResolving us.archive.ubuntu.com... 216.165.129.138 Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com[216.165.129.138] :80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found08:36
vdokopete sux08:36
b0olin trillian you could see what you ever typed before to a client08:36
b0olhm...08:36
tpmSeibol: Latitude D60008:37
Seiboldjm62: what kind of success have you had with power managment features?08:37
vdoand is 4 kubuntu x)08:37
b0olyou could individually manage your contacts08:37
b0oletc08:37
b0ol:)08:37
b0olwhat about licq?08:37
b0olis it goot?08:37
rdekoeijeris trillian for linux?08:37
b0olgood08:37
djm62Seibol: hp-compaq laptops seem to be linux friendly...suspend to ram, suspend to disk, battery management08:37
b0olno trillian = windows08:37
oneifreakb0ol: you can get history in gaim, etc..08:37
rdekoeijerwhat do you prefer on linux then?08:37
rdekoeijeron gnome08:37
b0olbut gaym simply suxx :) i hate it sry :)08:37
Jeezisseeker: how would i do that?08:37
b0olrdekoeijer that's what im asking for08:37
zAo^kopete...08:37
seekererr. do what?08:37
asynicb0ol: [12:36:51]  b0ol: in trillian you could see what you ever typed before to a client  <-- what does this mean?08:37
rdekoeijeroke srr08:37
Seibolthe only friggin feature I want is for the computer to suspend to Ram when I close the LCD08:37
Jeezisseeker: i have xsensors running, but its window isnt showing anything08:38
SeibolI have a IBM Thinkpad T20 on the way, hope I can get it working08:38
asynicSeibol: ubuntu runs fab on my t2308:38
djm62Seibol: hmmm...I don't have that enabled, but then I didn't want it: have you googled?08:38
SeibolI have a sager with it installed now, and it won't shut down08:38
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Seibolnot getting much08:38
seekernever used xsensors. try one of the other programs maybe?08:38
Seibolwhat is the difference between suspend to ram and suspend to disk?08:38
b0olasynic :08:38
Seibolexcept the obvious08:38
b0olif you chatted to a friend last day08:38
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seekerI use the direct approacg, but you don't want to do that (trust me you don't)08:39
b0oland you open the window TODAY08:39
b0olyou can see what you typed last day08:39
b0ol:)08:39
Jeezisseeker: any other suggestions for programs?08:39
asynicb0ol: oh - that's cool.  How many lines of history do you get?08:39
rdekoeijerwhat about amsn?08:39
b0olyou can set08:39
b0oli had 500 kb08:39
b0ol):08:39
b0ol:)08:39
JuNkPhreak|UnIxanyone used lm_sensors ?08:39
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b0olthats muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch08:39
b0ol<--08:39
b0olJuNkPhreak|UnIx  me08:39
seekerJeezis, like I said. I don't use any programs I go direct. but you don't want to do that unless you have to! (I have to :(    )08:39
JuNkPhreak|UnIxin ubuntu08:40
JuNkPhreak|UnIx?08:40
asynicb0ol: psi does something like that.... but it's a jabber client.  You can use ICQ through jabber.08:40
darkauditJuNkPhreak|UnIx: using it now... pity the gdesklets for lm_sensors are so old :(08:40
b0ol:/08:40
Jeezisseeker: ah, i see08:40
b0olhm...08:40
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JuNkPhreak|UnIxi use the cli08:40
b0olbut that's not the only thing i want08:40
seekerhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=laptop+cpu+temp+monitoring++linux&spell=108:40
b0oli'd like tirllian 2.0pro for linux best :>08:40
seekerJeezis, maybe something from that link?08:40
djm62b0ol: I have that on gaim...it's worth spending time configuring it: there are many options08:40
seekerhttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=laptop+cpu+temp+monitoring++linux&spell=108:40
b0ol:/08:40
b0olwhere?08:40
JuNkPhreak|UnIxpipe it to sysinfo.pl08:40
asynicb0ol:  bet you could run trillian with wine08:40
Jeezisseeker: i shall check, thanks for the help :)08:40
JuNkPhreak|UnIxwhy use trillian ?08:41
djm62b0ol: Tools->Preferences08:41
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b0oli think so too but im new to linux and i don't even know how wine works :/08:41
JuNkPhreak|UnIxgaim , kopete  etc...08:41
|QuaD-b0ol: don't use wine08:41
Burgundaviab0ol, what program do you need?08:42
b0oltrillian :>08:42
tsume_no08:42
asynicb0ol: everyone who uses linux has to give something up if they come from windows. Usually the benifits totally outweigh the cons.08:42
Burgundaviab0ol, hmm, gaim?08:42
tsume_use gaim08:42
rdekoeijergaim is good08:42
b0oli know08:42
|QuaD-gaim is good08:42
tsume_gaim is the best ;)08:42
b0oli use gaim and i don't like it08:42
Burgundaviab0ol, use native linux apps, you will thank yourself in the end08:42
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|QuaD-b0ol: why?08:42
Burgundaviatry gossip08:42
tsume_Burgundavia: you could.. roll your own ;)08:42
goldfishLOL08:43
asynicgossip is horrible.08:43
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Burgundaviatsume_, gah08:43
goldfishmake one :)08:43
b0oltrillian > * > gaim08:43
tsume_oops08:43
b0oli just loved trillian08:43
tsume_Burgundavia: sorry :)08:43
b0olyou could individualise it very good!08:43
tsume_b0ol: you could.. roll your own ;)08:43
goldfishb0ol: you could try running trillian in wine.08:43
nakatakopete works for me08:43
b0olhm.........08:43
JuNkPhreak|UnIxkopete works well08:43
|QuaD-b0ol: i like trillian too, but any feature that will work on trillian through wine is available with gaim08:43
tsume_except the fact that Qt is bloated08:43
serverya, and gaim is way better, too08:43
b0olno i searched all options08:44
serveryou can script for it08:44
b0oland i didn't find it08:44
servershit..countless bens08:44
serverwhy is my nick server...08:44
serverbah!08:44
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tsume_server: `rm -rf /` :P08:44
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neighborleei've just ( to be sure) replaces my sources.list with one from ubuntuguide website but i'm still getting no hits from a search criteria of 'sun' ...yes I want to install the java runtime but it seems its been removed or changed ???08:44
rempresentalright, guys, I have a huge question08:44
b0olas i have my ubuntu cd back i'll try licq08:44
b0ol:)08:44
|QuaD-b0ol: what do you need?08:44
rempresentthis is a windows-type question08:45
tritiumneighborlee, Method 2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java08:45
b0olrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr08:45
rempresenti needed to switch becaseu I want to plya WoW08:45
b0oldamn :) i search by my self );08:45
b0oli need cd to install licq via synaptic08:45
tsume_b0ol: no08:45
tritiumneighborlee, really, backports are not advisable.  That part of ubuntuguide is not good advice.08:45
|QuaD-b0ol: what do you need gaim to do that it isn't08:45
rempresentanyway, I am getting shutdowns like no tomorrow08:45
tsume_b0ol: you can delete the cd refs from sources.list08:45
tsume_b0ol: it will then download from the server08:46
rempresentso, I was wondering how hard it is to install an ati radeon card with ubuntu08:46
neighborleetritium, they should consider updating that then08:46
b0olhe? so i can install tools without needing the cd?08:46
b0olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa kewl ;08:46
b0ol;)08:46
b0oli'll try08:46
neighborleetritium, anyway...so this sun package is in backports ?08:46
b0olthnx08:46
tsume_b0ol: just comment the refs out, so if you want them later...08:46
neighborleetritium, I mean the sun package listed in the guide08:46
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tritiumneighborlee, it is, but I recommend Method 2 from the URL I sent you instead08:46
rempresentdoes anyone know how to install a ati radeon card with ubuntu08:46
neighborleetritium, ok..I hope they update this soon ( no doubt they haven't had time)08:47
tritiumrempresent, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto08:47
tsume_rempresent: throw the ati out and use nvidia ;)08:47
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tritiumneighborlee, it's an unofficial guide, so he provides the advice he wants to.  I doubt he'll change it08:47
b0oltsume_08:47
b0olhow to do that ? :x08:47
seekerI have a radeon 9700 pro and it works fine08:47
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tsume_b0ol: its in /etc/apt/08:47
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b0olhm.. sec08:47
rempresentokay, here is the problem.... i have an nvida card in right now, it is a nvida geforce4 440mx, will that run wow alright, or not08:47
neighborleetritium, yeah I saw the unofficial part...trouble is if its wrong advice I dont see the stubborness to change it..;-)..I guess ill  have to get ugly08:48
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rempresentdo you run wow at all.08:48
rempresent?08:48
Jeezisah, xsensors had a segmentation fault08:48
neighborleetritium, lol08:48
Jesteracei run wow on a nvidia FX550008:48
Jeezisi'm trying emifreq right now08:48
tritiumneighborlee, it's not wrong.  It's just that using backports makes upgrading to new resleases a pain08:48
rempresentdo you use cedega...08:48
neighborleetritium,thats not what I mean08:49
Jesteracei ran it on cedega08:49
b0olits sources.list ? @ tsume_ ?08:49
Jesteraceran okay08:49
Jesteracebut looked better in win3208:49
neighborleetritium, search for this 'sun' java package does not find anything08:49
rempresenti don't know the nvida cards like i do the ati, is my card going to run the game alright, or not?08:49
gdshi08:49
b0oli found it08:49
b0olk08:49
rempresentjust WoW, i have a AMD3000XP, and 1GB ram08:49
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ChoubakaHmm.08:49
b0oldo i have any advantages if i decomment the other sources?08:49
gdsHow  can I set  fonts for gnome 1.x applications?08:50
ChoubakaI wonder if it is be possible to see vesafb-tng integrated to the Ubuntu kernel sources someday.08:50
seekerb0ol, did you read the ubunbuguide?08:50
mainerneighborlee: search java or jre08:50
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Myrttihmmmmm08:50
MyrttiI google before asking08:50
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seekerb0ol, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ has most of the stuff you will need08:51
b0olseeker  yes i did but not completely i have toooooooooooooooooo less time08:51
b0olim just busy with my fu***** school08:51
b0ol:/08:51
seekerread    1. How to add extra repositories?08:51
seeker   2. How to backup/restore downloaded repositories cache?08:51
sighttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre08:51
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onnoI want to install essential packets of mplayer. But where should I install the codecs in Ubuntu08:53
neighborleetritium, no go.the package as named on the guide site is simply not in the repositories or its been changed08:53
tritiumonno, you can install them from Marillat's repo08:53
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tritiumneighborlee, you're still trying to use the one from backports?08:54
onnotritium, not all08:54
neighborleetritium, however if indeed its in backports as I believe you said...then there is problem as backports for me I think was not resolving08:54
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Plexyshow do i edit the menu on GNOME?08:54
zAo^onno: comment Marillats repo in /etc/apt/source.lst08:54
sigPlexys: ubuntuguide.org once again08:54
onnobecause when I want to play wma it complains about a dll not found08:54
ChoubakaHmm.08:54
seekerPlexys, as far as I know you can't08:54
sigPlexys: http://ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor08:54
tritiumneighborlee, it's in backports hoary-extra I believe.  As I said, though, it's not advisable anyway08:55
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ChoubakaI wonder how complete the Finnish translation of Ubuntu is.08:55
zAo^onno http://www.ubuntuguide.org/08:55
sigseeker: once again.... ubuntuguide.org08:55
seekersorry - I meant can't manually08:55
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gdsHow do I set fonts in applications linked to gtk 1.x?08:55
tritiumsig, ubuntuguide is not always good advice (e.g. jre)08:55
onnoI got marlat repo , but these arn't there08:55
seekeryou can use the menu edditor tool though08:55
Plexysi found this but i'm afraid i'll be installing rubbish: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=86708:55
seekerit's under application->system tools08:55
sigtritium: sure is, works flawlessly for me08:55
bretzeltrying to compile E17 and got  this error at the link statge: ../../src/lib/.libs/libevas.so: undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion' that means, headers are there but no libs, or developer's error...08:55
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sigjre works nicely08:55
AcidWolfi backed up some of my files that i had on Os X before i installed ubuntu on my powerbook but i cant seem to get ubuntu to read my backups08:55
AcidWolfany ideas08:55
tritiumsig, yes, but using backports is not advisable08:55
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b2ssig, try not to sound so unhappy when answering questions.  I mean, if you don't want to answer questions, stay out of the ubuntu help chat eh?08:56
sigwho says you have to use backports08:56
sigI'm not08:56
ompaulAcidWolf, emm what format are the backups in?08:56
tritiumsig, jre as listed on ubuntuguide comes from a backports repo08:56
AcidWolfthats the thing i cant even view the files on the disk08:56
sigb2s: well use your brain and search the net first, ubuntuguide.org has most answers that are asked inhere08:56
ompaulAcidWolf, what extention have they got?08:56
slappy17LOL08:56
sigtritium: well, I did a dist-upgrade08:57
tritiumsig, please don't insult people.  Remember the Code of Conduct08:57
slappy17half the time , these questions can be anwsered by docs..no, all the timre, really08:57
sigtritium: I'm not insulting anyone08:57
AcidWolfi know what you mean ompaul but what im saying is i dont even get that far08:57
AcidWolfi cant access the cd08:57
b2ssig: this is a help channel.  it is reasonable to ask questions, including those found on ubuntu guide.  it isn't an official guide or anything you know08:57
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i3dmasteranyone knows how to get a better compress ratio when making cloop filesystem?08:57
tritiumsig, see your last comment to b2s08:57
ompaulAcidWolf, that reads like ooch08:57
sigb2s: yeah your point?08:57
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slappy17LOL...08:58
zAo^i3dmaster: tried google?08:58
ompaulAcidWolf, did you check them before you installed the happiest operating system of them all?08:58
AcidWolfoh ok08:58
slappy17hey sig..do you have better things to do then help people for free? just curious..08:58
tritiumsig, where does apt-cache policy sun-j2re1.5 tell you it's from?08:58
MatyyI created a new user that I want to have sudo right, I added him to the sudo group, but that doesn't work - what do I have to do?08:58
sigsladen: no08:58
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sig:P08:58
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i3dmasterzAo^: yeap.08:58
AcidWolfompaul yes i accessed them through Osx and they worked08:58
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neighborleesig, no offense or anything as i'm a neighborly kinda of guy and all but..your comment 'use your brain' could easily be recognised as being confrontational....08:59
i3dmasterzAo^: actually I am not quite understand why most of compress cloop is using blocksize 6553608:59
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ompaulAcidWolf, okay so (A) reinstall os/x and create tarballs / gz archives - and ignore any local "i can back up your data for you" type offers08:59
signeighborlee: oh well, if you can't read then you can't help yourself08:59
AcidWolfim not blowing away an entire system09:00
AcidWolfO_o09:00
ompaulAcidWolf, okay so (B) find someone with os/x and get them out onto a drive and off like I suggest09:00
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AcidWolfok that sounds like a better idea09:00
neighborleesig, ic no reason to continue in that line of conversation...'we here' at #ubuntu 'help' people...regardless whether we think they are smart or not we help them..its the 'official' ubuntu way...09:00
ompaulAcidWolf, well both are reasonable but will cost some amount of time09:00
AcidWolfor i could get a Mac emulator09:01
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ompaulAcidWolf, there is that09:01
AcidWolfaha09:01
signeighborlee: I did help if you would look up to each answer, I pointed them to where the exact answer could be found. No reason on answering it here and taking up space when they can view it in easy format on that site.09:01
ompaulAcidWolf, but tbh will it do the same file format?09:01
sigI've helped lots of people help themselves09:01
gdsAnybody tried Openoffice 2.0? Is it stable, isn't it?09:01
ompaulAcidWolf, now you have learnt the badness of closed formats grasshopper :)09:02
AcidWolfyes indeedy09:02
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zAo^gds; here it is09:02
tritiumgds, tried it, but had some problems (word docs with tables, for example)09:02
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ompaulgds it was run for two days as a pinned application on a 64bit machine and it was okay09:02
meowzoerhi my X isnt booting right, can you guys help me? ive tried the starter guide and the forum and cant find anything09:03
neighborleemeowzoer, what do you mean its not booting right09:03
goldfishmeowzoer: Is it starting at all?09:03
gdsok, I'll try it09:03
meowzoeri get 'server is already active for display 0' when i type startx09:03
goldfishhmm09:03
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goldfishyou could do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'09:04
sigmeowzoer: you need to point it at your wm09:04
tritiummeowzoer, gdm is probably running09:04
siglike gnome or kde09:04
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gdstritium, in openoffice 1.x have you got the same problem with tables?09:04
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meowzoertritium so i should do a killall on gdm?09:04
tritiumgds, no09:04
zAo^sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop09:04
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tritiummeowzoer, as zAo^ suggests09:04
thundrcleezeIf I wanted to reinstall everything and keep all the installed packages I would in synaptic go to file save markings, then click on save full state, right?09:04
Plexyshow do i use menu-editor to remove items from the menu? when i press delete it doesn't do it09:04
gdsok tritium09:04
neighborleemeowzoer, it sounds like it tried to start gnome but failed..so yes startx would say that I"d imagine09:05
meowzoeroh, that work09:05
meowzoerbut09:05
neighborleePlexys, i think that is bug  with editor..might also depend on which editor your using09:05
meowzoernow my screen turns itself off09:05
Plexysneighborlee, i'm using the one from the ubuntuguide09:05
neighborleePlexys, if  the one in guide then its prob. just a current bug09:05
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tritiummeowzoer, can you inspect /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages?09:05
zAo^meowzoer: right sync?09:05
neighborleePlexys, ie: I do remember hearing about deletion issues09:05
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Plexysneighboorlee: ok, is there any 'good' version of a menu editor then?09:06
meowzoerzAo^ ive never confed the screen so maybe09:06
meowzoerhow do you change the sync?09:06
neighborleePlexys, i'd reccommend browsing through the menu editor forum as means to verify this being fixed09:06
danthemani'm working in windows right now, and it won't let me format my external drive as anything but NTFS...i want FAT32 so i can share it with ubuntu09:06
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zAo^meowzoer: what screen are you on?09:06
neighborleePlexys, well ..I had to reinstall ( had bad ugrade with RC) so i've not yet tried it sorry..09:06
danthemanor is there some way i can format it in ubuntu to be shareable with windows?09:06
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goldfishhey guys, i'm having trouble, i install a .wma plugin for xmms, and now i have sound trouble, i'm using xfce and i have a volume applet thing but i cant use it, and when i run alsamixer, it exits when i press a key, i have since unistalled the plugin, but the problem is still there :/09:07
Plexysneighboorlee: ok, thank you for your help09:07
goldfishAny ideas?09:07
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neighborleePlexys, np..and good luck with that09:07
meowzoerzAo^ do you mean the brand or whitch F1 F2 etc?09:07
chicken_mantake a look at my C++ guide http://chickenman.zapto.org/apache2-default/pro/cpp.php09:07
zAo^meowzoer: brand + type09:07
Doom-Hammerhow do install .deb packages I've downloaded?09:07
danthemandpkg -i package.deb09:07
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Doom-Hammerthanks, dantheman09:08
goldfishdantheman: If it is ntfs, you can read it from linux, but not write to it.09:08
danthemanwell, i really need to write to it09:08
goldfishah right09:08
neighborleeyeah i ts a shame firefox can't handle .deb like it does in fedora for rpm09:08
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neighborleethat would be a nice feature ;-)09:08
thundrcleezeIf I wanted to reinstall everything and keep all the installed packages I would in synaptic go to file save markings, then click on save full state, right?  Also, is there an apt command that will do the same?09:08
meowzoerzAo^ its an old packard bell, CRt09:08
meowzoerCRT09:08
gdsHow can I install captive on ubuntu?09:09
zAo^you know its vsync and hsync?09:09
meowzoerno09:09
zAo^hmm09:09
zAo^type?09:09
danthemanso does anybody know how i can get the drive formatted so i can write from both windows xp and linux?09:09
ompaulgds, what is captive?09:09
meowzoerits an CRT if you mean that09:09
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thundrcleezeIf it's ntfs, you probably don't want that, dan.09:09
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zAo^dantheman: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdX09:09
Doom-Hammerwhat do I do if a package has "no installation cantidate"? can I download a .deb for it?09:10
danthemanwell, i've moved everything off of it, so that i could reformat it to something that would work09:10
Doom-Hammerthis application I need requires libsocksd, but I can't apt-get install it, since it "has no installation cantidate"09:10
zAo^dantheman: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdX09:10
Doom-Hammeroh, there's a "download" button right there on the ubuntu package page... duh :P09:11
meowzoerzAo^ its an crt, if that was what you meant09:11
danthemanwill windows xp still be able to read and write to and from the drive if i do that?09:11
gdsompaul, I mean captive-ntfs09:11
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jkkadantheman: you nee dto format it as a FAT09:11
chicken_manLearn C++ quick and easy with my C++ guide part 1 is out NOW downloaded from http://chickenman.zapto.org/apache2-default/pro/cpp.php09:11
zAo^meowzoer: no. I want every information to search for its vsync/hsync :)09:11
thundrcleezechicken_man, how is that relevant?09:12
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danthemanwell, i'm in windows, and when i click format, the only option it gives me is NTFS09:12
meowzoeroh, wait a sec then :)09:12
thundrcleezeDon't use windows.09:12
nubbeHow do I get soundjuicer to use lame?09:12
Doom-Hammerdantheman: use another partitioning tool, like the one that comes with Maxtor drive, or Partition Magic09:12
jkkadantheman: you can format it in linux09:12
danthemanalright...lemme reboot into ubuntu09:12
zAo^dantheman: in Win32: go to the sysadmin >> volumes >> format as fat3209:12
chicken_manthundrcleeze, well some people mite want to learn C++09:12
ompaulgds ohh, I have no idea what captive-ntfs is - I can talk for hours about ext3, but I guess that is not what you want :-/09:12
thundrcleezeYes, but are they asking for it?09:13
meowzoerzAo^ the model is; packard bell 748009:13
chicken_manvery much so :)09:13
mike_...09:13
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ompauldantheman, I can only suggest you format it on a box that uses fat32 - XP seems to be lacking interoperability with regard to file systems09:13
zAo^meowzoer: in Holland the 'type' is the same word as the 'model' :-# sorry09:13
meowzoerzAo^ oh hehe :D09:14
ompauljkka, does using fat mean that you only get to see 2 gig partitions at a time09:14
gdsompaul, captive-ntfs is a library, it can write and read a ntfs partition09:14
ompaulgds, ahh09:14
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ompaulgds, let me have a look at at that :)09:15
zAo^meowzoer: tried to change the default resolution?09:15
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Plexyssigh this menu-editor is evil. how do i reach the directory with all the applications in it that appear in the menu?09:15
meowzoerzAo^ i have no idea how to even look at the config for the resolution09:15
zAo^meowzoer: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:15
gdsompaul, it use libraries from windows (ntfs.sys e nto....exe)09:15
chicken_manmy advice is to download my C++ guide at once :D09:15
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danthemanalright, how do i format my external drive as FAT in linux?09:16
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zAo^dantheman: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdaXX09:16
zAo^dantheman: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdaX that is09:16
gdszAo^, don't you know an editor more user friendly? :-)09:16
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zAo^gds: sorry; I only use vi :$09:17
thundrcleezegds, gedit is very user friendly.09:17
kentgds: nano is a good alternative,  and gedit aswell.09:17
zAo^thundrcleeze: his X is not running so... :)09:17
b2sgds: some people find nano to be relatively use friendly (not as good as gedit)09:17
thundrcleezeah, never mind then :)09:17
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gdsmeowzoer, sudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:17
b2sheh, so nano it is :)09:17
zAo^joe is userfriendly09:17
chicken_manmmmmm gedit :P09:17
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meowzoerzAo^ its set for horiz 30-63 and vert 50-7509:18
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meowzoerwhat should i change it to?09:18
zAo^use vi I'd say :) Learn unix/linux09:18
seekerwhat does it mean to make a symbolic link?09:18
gdszAo^, vi's great, but it's very difficult the first time09:18
gds:-)09:18
zAo^meowzoer: k. What is the default resolution? (eg. 1280x1024)09:18
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goldfishhmmm09:19
meowzoerzAo^ 1280x1024 is first09:19
zAo^gds: I know. I only know about 20 commands, theres lot more :)09:19
seekercan someone please explain this to me:   Symbolic linking ~/.Skype to a local disk directory solve the nfs lock problem as locks in local disks depends on no services. If you move your profile back to the nfs mount, the problem may show up again.09:19
ompaulgds after looking at  http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ if I was interested in such a thing I might first try the .tar.gz version after which if it did not work I might try alien on the rpms but any/all of that may cause unusual impacts on your machine09:19
goldfishI've just noticed, alsamixer isn't working for me anymore, anyway I can fix this ?09:19
zAo^meowzoer: try to set the default to 800x600 or so09:19
bhnahas anyboddy sucess with extendedPDF and openoffice?09:19
djm62seeker: what about it?09:19
seekerI don't understand what it means09:20
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seekerwhat am I supposed to do?09:20
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djm62seeker: is your $HOME on nfs?09:20
zAo^can any1 help meowzoer ?? Thanks09:20
seekerhow can I tell ? (whats nfs?)09:20
djm62seeker: NFS==Network File System09:21
bhnaextendedPDF http://www.jdisoftware.co.uk/pages/epdf-home.php09:21
danthemanhow do i figure out which file in /dev represents my external hard drive?09:21
meowzoerzAo^ thank you but ill let it be for a while :)09:21
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djm62seeker: it means you don't use your local hard disk, but one on a remote server09:21
seekeroh, I don't think so. everything is local HD09:21
goldfishdantheman: should be /dev/sda109:21
goldfishdantheman: well thats what mine is09:21
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djm62dantheman: if it's mounted, type "mount" to view all the info for mounted disks09:21
bhnaany tips to extendedPDF09:21
bhna?09:21
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slappy17I HATE MY JOB!09:22
djm62seeker: in that case, I'd guess that that wasn't the solution to your problem09:22
slappy17sorry, im off topic09:22
djm62slappy17: #ubuntu-offtopic09:22
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slappy17djm62asldkfja;lskdfj: no crap09:22
seekerdo nfs looks only apply to network drives?09:22
weazle+09:22
djm62seeker: what is the symptom?09:23
gdsok ompaul, I'm not really interested in captive-ntfs... but I'll try it09:23
seekerhttp://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=24245&sid=6aae020e6ea0dd550e3ba96595fc384809:23
danthemanokay, i just did mkfs.vfat /dev/sda109:23
danthemanand it took like half a second09:23
seekerI have the same problem09:23
seekermy skype wount log on09:23
danthemandid it actually format the drive?09:23
ompaulgds, if it breaks things in new and interesting ways it will be yours to fix :)09:23
seekereven though it's IS on line (others see me online , but I can't log on)09:23
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ompaulseeker, now and again it demands you username and password09:24
djm62seeker: ah...09:24
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gdseh :-)09:24
seekerit doesn't accept my user name and password, it says login failed immidiatly09:24
djm62seeker: did skype crash recently?09:24
seekerwithout trying09:24
ompaulseeker, its login is usually very fast09:25
ompaulseeker, try killall skype first09:25
seekerbut I am logged on. other people can contact me,09:25
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djm62seeker: I hate to ask, but are you SURE about username/pAsSwOrd?09:25
thundrcleezeQuick question: If I wanted to reinstall everything and keep all the installed packages I would in synaptic go to file save markings, then click on save full state, right?  Also, is there an apt command that will do the same?09:25
seekeryes09:25
seekerI asked for a new one , and did copy past to make sure I had no mistakes09:25
seekerI can log on the skype site with the same name and password09:26
Zugoti have a 17GB binary file.  Does 'split' work on binary files or should i use shar?09:26
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slappy1764bit must be nice09:26
seekerok , did killall skype09:26
slappy17Zugot: you have that amd64?09:26
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drspinI reinstalled Hoary yesterday and I must say I'll never do a dist-upgrade again...09:26
drspinLOL09:26
seekeram going to try and log on09:27
thundrcleezeWhy's that, drspin?09:27
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seekerit worked!09:27
seekerthx djm62 !09:27
djm62you'll be wanting the download fix in a few weeks ;)09:27
Zugotslappy17: yup09:27
djm62seeker: I think that's due ompaul09:27
seekerompaul?09:28
slappy17Zugot: splits man says 'lines' in it..i wouldnt trust it for bin09:28
drspinthundrcleeze: because I spent HOURS getting stuff to work after upgrading... upon reinstall everything just worked (except my DMA settings and few customizations) ;)09:28
Zugotslappy17: i'm still trying it right now09:28
ompaul thundrcleeze, I find your question a little confusing - if I was you I would copy all the stuff from /var/cache/apt/archives/ to a CD then I would reconfigure all partitions the way I wanted09:28
Zugoti may have to use shar09:28
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Zugotdoes anyone ask any linux questions anymore or is it all... how do i install my cd burner?   why doesn't hoary work?09:29
ompaulseeker, the command `killall skype` removes any previous processes with skype attached to them and allows you start afresh09:29
slappy17lol....well09:29
slappy17ubuntu targets newbs09:29
thundrcleezeAren't those linux questions?09:29
slappy17might have to go over to #debian09:29
thundrcleeze:)09:29
navreetUbuntu rox09:29
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seekerwhy didn't rebooting solve the problem?09:29
slappy17no, they're app questions09:29
heftigrat_hey all, n e 1 know how to get rid of wine err:  "wine: cannot find 'regedit'" ?09:29
slappy17rebooting didnt solve it because it isnt win9809:29
navreetsladen, ?? I've been using linux for years09:30
seekerwell, thanks for solving by problem anyway.09:30
navreetsladen, I love it...09:30
djm62seeker: maybe skype is crashing on startup...09:30
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Zugot#debian is a mean awful place09:30
drspinso I installed lame -- I installed Grip -- for some reason grip tells me that it can't find lame09:30
thundrcleezeRebooting worked for me, but I had to reboot 5 times for the fix to work.09:30
slappy17lol..ya09:30
slappy17they're jerks09:30
djm62seeker: so you reboot, and the exact same thing happens09:30
Zugotplus i'm already in 7 channels09:30
slappy17but, straight forward09:30
RogueDoppleha reboot09:30
b0olwhich programm can i use for file sharing?09:30
ompaulZugot, so be happy with how does my CD work :)09:30
navreetsladen, it's targetting people like me too [who don't have to have to edit config files [gentoo] , or have 3 year old distro [debian] )09:30
RogueDopplethis is windows09:30
slappy17lol, ompaul09:30
seeker #debian is a mean awful place   <--- lol09:30
Zugotompaul: :P09:31
navreetslappy17, , I love it...09:31
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thundrcleezeI agree, slappy, they're not newbie friendly.09:31
navreetslappy17, it's targetting people like me too [who don't have to have to edit config files [gentoo] , or have 3 year old distro [debian] )09:31
pawallsZugot, It wasn't always.09:31
Zugotlet me go lurk09:31
neighborleehas anyone heard about a ubuntu bug as relates to evolution ??09:31
slappy17i hate that release argument for deb09:31
slappy17that doesnt work on me09:31
pawallsZugot, When I first started using Debian about 4 years ago, there were a lot of helpful people.09:31
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thundrcleezeThey're probably just cranky because they're running woody.09:31
pawallsSince then, the whole channel seems to be full of elitist assholes.09:31
navreetslappy17, is gdm2 in debian yet?09:31
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b0olwhich programm can i use for file sharing?09:32
neighborleethundrcleeze, lol09:32
djm62slappy17: it gets credence when "non-dds should only run stable"09:32
slappy17ya, it was exciting back then..now they're older and their ass's itch..they're grumpy09:32
sobersabreevolution question.09:32
navreetslappy17, it took OVER A YEAR for kde3 to get into debian unstable...09:32
ompaulthundrcleeze, na, it is the queuing for sarge that is killing them09:32
seekerb0ol, amul?09:32
djm62b0ol: limewire is ok if you don't mind java09:32
pawallsgreypanther was always a nice guy however..09:32
slappy17who cares, why is lvm and raid enabled by default and not SSHD?09:32
sobersabrehow can i delete message ?09:32
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b0olJAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVA *whine*09:32
b0olaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr09:33
navreetand ubuntu is the first distro where [almost] everything "just worked"09:33
b0ol:/09:33
b0olkk09:33
slappy17besides, kde is ...well..its just bloated09:33
navreetb0ol, no java here though [AMD64]  :(09:33
b0olseeker  i'm looking for filesharing especially for mp309:33
b0ol:)09:33
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slappy17Kapp, Kwipemybutt09:33
neighborleeslappy17, heh09:33
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b0olk i search for limewire09:33
sobersabreanyone knows how to delete ( really ) messages in evolution ?09:33
b0olcan i find it in synaptic?09:33
navreetslappy17, yeah, I agree with the kde assessment now, but back when 3.0 came out, it was "t eh shit"09:33
seekeryes09:33
djm62sobersabre: really?09:33
slappy17heh09:33
seekerif not there09:33
djm62sobersabre: ctrl-D09:33
neighborleeslappy17, yeah I dont bother...kde is okay and i applaud ability to use it in ubuntu..but I just use gnome for most of those reasons yes09:33
thundrcleezesobersabre, did you try the delete key?  That works for me.09:33
seekerthan in the ubunbuguide09:33
slappy17im just moody because im stuck at my hellhole job09:34
Zugottoday is nice day09:34
navreetslappy17, what do u do?09:34
Markriansobersabre, Actions -> Expunge09:34
Zugotand i love my job09:34
decafmake-jpkg (java-package) worked for me09:34
slappy17unix admin, naturally09:34
Zugoti think i'm going to get a chair and sit in the back yard and smoke while i compute09:34
slappy17and i hate it09:34
seekerb0ol, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire09:34
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sobersabredjm62, i see "500" messages in inbox (imap). i see the messages only in mutt. evolution doesn't show me them... but it counts them!09:34
thundrcleezesee?  Don't listen to me.09:34
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slappy17ive been addicted to #ubuntu for several days now09:34
slappy17you guys are great09:34
slappy17its fun in here and fun to help too when you can09:35
djm62sobersabre: Actions: Empty Trash or Expunge09:35
navreetgtg, laters09:35
slappy17but zugots right, no more app crap09:35
neighborleeslappy17, helping is kewl ;-)09:35
slappy17;)09:35
seekerits fun in here and fun to help too when you can <--- HERE HERE!09:35
goldfishsorry could someone running hoary tell me if they have a /dev/mixer ?09:35
gds_Why there's not argouml in ubuntu?09:35
navreetfile bug reports people!! [They actually fix them fast!] 09:35
slappy17im selective on what i help on... :)09:35
nahumhello09:35
slappy17hi09:35
sobersabredjm62, you don't understand me. evo doesn't fetch already read messages. they are not "deleted" in mutt they're "read"09:35
nahumsomebody could help me?09:35
navreetcrw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 0 2005-05-12 18:04 /dev/mixer09:36
decafgoldfish: yes, I have09:36
goldfishdamn09:36
thundrcleezegoldfish, me too09:36
goldfishmine has gone :)09:36
nahumI've a problem installing my webcam driver09:36
sobersabreis there a way of fetching the already read messages with evo ?09:36
thundrcleezeoh no.09:36
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Zugotargouml isn't in ubuntu cuz......09:36
Zugot...09:36
goldfishthundrcleeze: any idea what package it's in or anything?09:36
Zugotjava isn't in ubuntu09:36
navreetgoldfish, you can try search on packages.debian.org09:36
navreetgtg, laters09:36
thundrcleezeNo idea.  I'm sure there's a way to find out.09:36
goldfishty09:36
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ailleantsianwhat is the root password for ubuntu?09:38
seekerthere is no root in ubuntu09:38
seekeryou can use sudo09:38
slappy17sudo09:38
slappy17hah09:38
thundrcleezeyou have to create your won if you want one.09:38
thundrcleezebut it's suggested you use sudo09:38
ompaulailleantsian, use sudo it just makes more sense09:38
gds_Can somebody pass me the line for debian sarge?09:38
drspinnavreet09:38
thundrcleeze*own09:38
seekerit's the password for the default user you created during the installation09:38
ailleantsiani am trying ti install a wlan thing and its asking for a username and password09:38
ompaulgds_, what line?09:39
drspinnavreet: you think my prob is a bug?09:39
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mikecoit would appear that ide-cd doesn't like me dvd burner09:39
pr3vi0uzwhere do u get the enterprize distro from ubuntu?09:39
gds_ompaul, the one for sources.list09:39
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ompaulailleantsian, you type `sudo command_name+options` and in that terminal you have root for 5 minutes since you typed the last command09:39
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sobersabrewhich package provides the library: libgtkembedmoz.so ?09:40
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sobersabrei am trying to launch help in evolution... no help ...09:40
seekerif you need to do a lot of root action you can also type "sudo -s -H" (it's all in the ubuntuguide)09:40
ailleantsianthankyou09:40
gds_ompaul, deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free09:40
ompaulgds_,  deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main deb ftp://ftp.X.debian.org/debian/ testing main where X is your nearest location09:40
pr3vi0uzout of distro i have run this is very basic and easy to understand09:41
nahumsomebody with experience installing webcam drivers?09:41
ompaulgds_ that one is tainted :)09:41
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mikecoisn't ide-scsi deprecated in 2.6?09:41
gds_ompaul, you're right... sarge is better09:41
mikecoie: not good for burning?09:41
seekerI would actually like some webcam help as well....09:42
ompaulgds_ if you want I can msg you one I use on a server09:42
ompaulfor woody09:42
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ompaulhang on this is #ubuntu09:42
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gds_ompaul,  I added "deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free"09:42
seekerI wrote my webcam manufacturer support, and they answered: " we regret to inform you that we don't support linux"09:42
pr3vi0uz eek09:43
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gds_Is it safe to add a debian repository in ubuntu (sarge)?09:43
ompaulseeker, so write to them that you regret you will be looking for another provider of web cams09:43
chillywillydoubt it09:43
Aboodhey guys09:43
seekerompaul, since they already have my cash, I don't think they will care ... :)09:44
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heftigrat_n e 1 know how to get rid of wine err:  "wine: cannot find 'regedit'" ?09:44
pr3vi0uz lol09:44
ompaulseeker, tell them that anyway09:44
Aboodguys when i wan to mount a Vfat Drive, why when i reboot my  machine i must remount it again, isnt their any command to save the changes ?!09:44
mikecoput it in fstab09:44
ompaulseeker, what is it so we can all avoid it09:44
pr3vi0uz this livecd mikeco09:44
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mikecowas talking to Abood09:45
seekergenius videocam web09:45
ompaulyou will have told 526 people that it does not work with linux09:45
ompaulseeker, thank you09:45
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ailleantsianwhat does this error mean ?? root@StormDragon:/home/ailleantsian # sudo dpkg -i driverloader_2.27_i386.deb09:45
ailleantsiandpkg: error processing driverloader_2.27_i386.deb (--install):09:45
ailleantsian cannot access archive: No such file or directory09:45
seekerthe express model is supported in linux (I think) but not my model09:45
Aboodmikeco, sorry dude ?!09:46
ompaulseeker, ahh some they do and some they don't09:46
mikecoAbood, add your vfat drive to fstab09:46
seekerthe sad part about it, is I baught it about a week before I installed linux...09:46
nubbeis there any free linux literature available on the web?09:46
seekernubbe, YES!09:47
ompaulnubbe, more than you can read what kind of stuff do you want?09:47
nubbedunno  :)09:47
seekerhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org09:47
thundrcleezeHas anyone noticed the dictionary applet servers being down the past couple weeks?09:47
seekerthe best place to start!09:47
ailleantsiansorry wrong one : Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?09:47
ompaulnubbe, http://www.tldp.org after you do the ubuntuguide09:48
pr3vi0uz anyone wanna take a crack on why my sould  doesnt work   alsa and oss doesnt  work09:48
pr3vi0uzsound!09:48
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mikecoAbood, something like /dev/hdX /mnt/win_c vfat umask=0,defaults 0 009:48
mikecoto /etc/fstab09:48
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djonesnubbe, I found this stuff helpful and well written http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/articles.xml09:49
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Aboodmikeco, thx dude i know that command but im not sure if i edited it that it will work :S ?!!!09:50
seeker? can you repeat that?09:50
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seekerif you want to check if you eddited fstab correctly09:51
pr3vi0uzmikeco any ideas how  come im not haven any sound but there doesnt seem to be an issue with drivers'09:51
seekeruse umount and then mount -a09:51
nubbethanks for the help,     djones that looks good09:51
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seekerpr3vi0uz, how many sound deviced you got?09:52
Aboodseeker, but i think if i did it, it will make me reboot right ?!09:52
pr3vi0uz just 109:52
seekerAbood, no! that's why I said to use umount and mount -a09:52
mikecopr3vi0uz, ?09:52
Aboodaha let me check09:52
pr3vi0uzseeker Audigy soundblaster09:52
seekeryou can change it as many times as you want and test it without rebooting09:52
mikecouh, is it muted?09:52
seekerpr3vi0uz, do you have an onboard chip as well?09:52
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mikecowhat do you have for lspci09:53
mikecoregarding sound09:53
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seekerI had an onboard (crappy) chip and (vary nice) pci sound card, and it caused some trouble09:53
Aboodseeker, can i write umount -a then mount -a ?09:53
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seekerno09:53
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Aboodcoz when i write umount i must put a sub comm after it09:53
seekeryou need to use umount /mnt/win_c and then mount -a09:54
Aboodaha09:54
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seekermount -a tells it to reuse the fstab file09:54
ari_somebody who knows how can be detected my webcam by the system09:54
seekerumount /X/X tells it to unmount that files system09:54
pr3vi0uz starnge this  happen  as well on  livecd  knoppix but onces i did an Hd install my sound work09:54
ricardo_hi,after configuring samba I got this error"params.c:Section() - Empty section name in configuration file.09:55
ricardo_params.c:pm_process() - Failed.  Error returned from params.c:parse().09:55
ricardo_Error loading services.09:55
ricardo_"09:55
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seekerwhat webcam do you have? ari_09:55
ricardo_anybody can help?09:55
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seekeryou need to check if it's supported in linux (sadly most of them are not )09:55
hypnoricardo_ did you edit the confil file manually?09:56
Aboodseeker, umount /mnt/win_c wotn work dude ?!?!09:56
ari_seeker:its a pixart09:56
hypno*config09:56
ricardo_hypno,yes09:56
seekerAbood, one sec09:56
hypnothen you made a mistake, go fix it :)09:57
rototomHello together09:57
wildfire6I am installing Hoary on a Mac and have two quick questions that are newbie questions. 1. Recommended size for the main partition - 15G? and for the swap partition - 1G?09:57
seekerjust checked it, and it works for me09:57
seekerwhat did you write09:57
rototomI have problems installing my remote control with ubuntu09:57
hypnowildfire6 they sound ok09:57
rototomits connected to the serial-port and homebrew kompatible09:58
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rototomanyone wants to help me?09:58
Upayavirawildfire6: make the swap at least the same size as your available RAM.09:58
seekerAbood, did you mount the file system? do you have access to win_c?09:58
Upayavirawildfire6: So you can use software suspend, which suspends ram into your swap partition09:59
seekerif you didn't mount it yet, you wount be able to unmount it....09:59
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Aboodseeker, win_c not found09:59
ricardo_hypno, I don't know how to fix it09:59
seekerwhere did you mount it?09:59
Aboodohhh09:59
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wildfire6Thanks - Last question: I boot from the CD that I burned the image to and it's asking me for the "type" of partition, with many choices. I know it's not FAT32. which "type" of partition should the install partition and the swap be?09:59
Aboodnow i know what u said09:59
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flodinehow do i change log in screen for ubuntu?09:59
Upayavirawildfire6: ext3 should do you fine.10:00
Aboodseeker, just tell me how to add line directly to the fstab without openning it, u know what i mean ?!10:00
thenukeflodine: try gdmconfig10:00
hypnoricardo_ if you can't find the problem you can do sudo dpkg -r --purge samba, then sudo apt-get install samba10:00
hypnoto get back to the default config10:00
Upayavirawildfire6: sorry, for swap the type should be "swap" :-)10:00
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ciber_flodine sudo gdmsetup10:00
thenukeflodine: you should find that from the menus too10:00
ciber_yep10:00
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seekeryou have to edit the fstab file. it's just a text file. don't change any lines just add another one10:00
ciber_flodline system > administration10:01
seekeruse "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"10:01
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dockanei "apt-got" thunderbird: how do get german language support for it ?10:01
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seekeryou need to use sudo10:01
AndyRlo all10:01
ricardo_thx10:01
Upayaviradockane: apt-get install thunderbird-i18n-de or some such?10:01
rototomdockane, apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de10:02
wildfire6thanks all !10:02
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rototomdockane, you know, there is also a channel #ubuntu-de ?10:02
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Aboodseeker, i know dude, but when i add line its gives me erorr "unmask=000"10:02
UpayaviraI previously booted the hoary preview CD. It detected my ipw2200 wireless adapter on dell notebook, and connected to my network. Then I installed the Hoary release CD, it detected the ipw2200 adapter, but failed to connect to the network. Any ideas what has changed between versions? What might make this work?10:02
seekeryou need umask=000010:03
seeker4 zeros10:03
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seekerjust a sec let me check if im right10:03
seekeryep, 410:03
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Super_Cat_Froghi - does anybody know where my girlfriends tweezers are?10:03
dockanerototom, hm that would be too easy. have to force me to use my english, even if its only chatting ;)10:03
Super_Cat_Frogalso, is anybody else having problems with hotplug?10:03
Super_Cat_Frogwhen i boot it stops at  Starting Hotplug Subsystem10:03
hypnoUpayavira does the network interface show up in the network settings administration dialog?10:04
Aboodseeker, its working on 000 i did it :)10:04
seekercool :)10:04
b0olcan someone send me a correct sources.list file? i destroyed mine :x10:04
b0olplsplspls :x10:04
Upayavirahypno: Yes. But I put in my WEP key, just like I did under preview live CD, and it fails to find the network.10:04
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hypnoah, don't know about that10:05
dockanerototom, "locale" sure ? : Konnte Paket mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de nicht finden10:05
b0olPLEASE :x10:05
hypnob0ol theyre in a very easy format..: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted [universe]  [multiverse] 10:06
Super_Cat_Frogmy puters broked!10:07
hypnooh noes10:07
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hypnoyes i know ;)10:08
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hypnoi should change that to gb in my file, really10:08
ompaulhypno, or ie10:08
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hypnoie ?10:09
ompaulIreland10:09
hypnooh yeah10:09
djonesHas anyone had any success getting the passwords to work in a classic UNIX style?10:09
hypnothey don't have the internet in ireland anyways ..10:09
AndyRdo they have electric yet? :)10:10
ompaulhypno, you may think that, but there is a server here that well does more than kernel dot org every day :-)10:10
Super_Cat_Frogompaul - heanet?10:10
ompaulSuper_Cat_Frog, yes10:10
heftigrat_n e 1 know how to get rid of wine err:  "wine: cannot find 'regedit'" ?10:11
nakataireland's internet is far more advanced than north americas10:11
ompaulSuper_Cat_Frog, that is a single box - 12G ram10:11
nakatalook at heanet10:11
nakatait's godly.10:11
nakatamost of north america is still stuck on ipv410:11
hypnoompaul based on our experiences of trying to get dsl in galway a year ago, you understand..10:11
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nubbebugmenot ruls10:11
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Nermalyay.. on breezy now :D10:12
ciber_hehe10:12
ciber_it's cool10:12
ompaulhypno, I think of shrule and sending Damn Small Linux there so that they have at least one dsl10:12
ciber_I liked the pdf preview hack10:12
ciber_;)10:12
jhaigAnyone using an IPod with Ubuntu?10:13
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hypnoerk, it's Nermal - hi10:13
Nermalbah10:14
Jeezisok, newb question10:14
jhaigI'm just testing one.  When I plugged it in I was able to browse it and I have unmounted it, but the display still says do not disconnect.  Anyone know how to disconnect it?10:14
b0olwhich number has ext3 filesystem in cfdisk?10:14
Jeezishow do i get a *.bin to run10:14
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deltalimaJeezis: ./filename10:14
Jeezisevery time i try to run it it just opens up in kate10:14
Jeezisah10:14
jhaigJeezis: You may need to make it executable10:14
ompaulinet addr:192.168.1.2  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::202:b3ff:fecd:be2e/6410:15
deltalimaJeezis: "chmod a+x filename" if that doesn't work10:15
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Super_Cat_Froganybody else having problems booting past hotplug? i might have upgraded to breezys version, i cant remember10:15
j^3_works for me10:15
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foolipHi. I have a computer set up to be a masquerading router. I want it to serve DNS to the computers on the local network since the external dns servers are assigned by DHCP and may be changing. What (caching,recursive?) DNS server could I use?10:16
foolipPreferably one that just looks at my resolv.conf and asks those nameservers10:17
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b0olwhich number has ext3 filesystem in cfdisk?10:17
jhaigfoolip: I think named is the usual10:17
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foolipjhaig, that package isn't available to me. Is it called "named"?10:18
jhaigI'm not sure.  The daemon that is run is called named.  Possibly the package is called something else.10:19
Rickdangerousbind?10:19
jhaigIt may be part of bind10:19
Rickdangerouspackages.ubuntu.org10:20
foolipyeah, seems bind is named10:20
j^3_bind910:20
Rickdangerousubuntulinux*10:20
Jeezisok, how do you copy a directory in terminal?10:20
Jeezisand then paste10:21
jhaigJeezis: cp -a dirname new_dirname10:21
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Rickdangerousok that uri doesn't work10:21
rototom"thomas@thomas:~$ apt-cache search thunderbird german10:21
rototommozilla-thunderbird-locale-de - Mozilla Thunderbird German Language/Region Package"10:21
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jhaigJeezis: The -a makes sure it is copied exactly, so everything inside is copied too10:22
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GammaRayJeezis: I've never seen that before but it sounds interesting.10:23
rototomdockane, i have debian sid sources integrated, perhaps thats why I get it?10:23
azadhi.. i'm trying to use qtparted and erase swapspace (on knoppix) but it gives out an error10:23
GammaRayJeezis: you do mean actually copy the files right?10:23
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TFPhi10:23
GammaRaynot just the listing10:23
ari_somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam10:23
dockanerototom, i am on the source.list by ubuntuguide.org -> extra repository10:23
TFPdoes anyone know where i get the program "convert"?10:23
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GammaRayTFP: it's part of imagemagick10:24
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ari_somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam10:24
jhaigI have configured automount instead of using /etc/fstab for the floppy disk.  Is it possible to add a link for the floppy drive to the window I get from Places->Computer (in the Gnome main menu)?10:24
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dbrouwerhi all, is it not possible to edit mp3-id tags from within rhythmbox?10:25
TFPso when i install imagemagick i will have the program automatically?10:25
eloghow do i get rid of the dogshit brown splash screens?10:25
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MacIverelog: tape, lots of it10:25
GammaRayTFP: yep10:25
TFPk thx10:25
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eloglooks like shit10:25
GammaRayelog: could you try not to be so insulting when asking?10:25
Super_Cat_Frogis anybody else running hotplug and udev for breezy badger yet?10:26
jhaigelog: System->Administration->Login Screen Setup10:26
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GammaRayI happen to really like the brown theme10:26
elogat least knoppix didn't make my laptop look like somone had smeared feces all over it10:26
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ari_ somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam10:26
MacIverelog: depends on what you eat10:26
mainerwww.ubuntuguide.org10:26
elogturduntu10:27
Super_Cat_Froghmm - ive just found i dont have a /etc/udev/udev.conf - could somebody tell me how to get the default udev config files back?10:27
Markriandbrouwer, nope10:27
ari_ somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam10:27
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ari_ somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam10:27
ari_ somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam10:27
dbrouwertoo bad] 10:27
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dbrouwerthanks Markrian10:27
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j^3_elog: gdm or the desktop or both?10:27
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Markrianari_, don't repeat yourself, anyone who can help will answer you10:27
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GammaRayj^3_: don't answer the fool10:28
JaGWiRE``hey10:28
JaGWiRE``i'm about to burn my ubuntu cd, will this give me an option to install over my suse installation?10:28
MarkrianSuper_Cat_Frog, reinstall udev perhaps10:28
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MarkrianBut I don't see why you wouldn't have udev.conf...10:28
Super_Cat_Frogmarkrian - ive tried that10:28
djonesI forget who had the hotplug question, but I stumbled on this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root10:28
elogj^3: gdm, apparently10:28
annaHey, I just read about the HP contract and Ubuntu10:29
hypnoJaGWiRE`` yes, if you mean delete it completely and install over it10:29
ompaulJaGWiRE``, if it is the install software most certainly10:29
MarkrianSuper_Cat_Frog, oh right, you're using breezy, no wonder10:29
elogi was able to wipe the shit color off the desktop10:29
JaGWiRE``yeah10:29
GammaRayJaGWiRE``: you can do whatever you want at the manual partitioning screen10:29
JaGWiRE``gamam10:29
annaDoes anyone have greater details in an URL than Heise.de has?10:29
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JaGWiRE``will it try to replace over previous by default?10:29
JaGWiRE``i suck at partitions10:29
JaGWiRE``always FUCK it all up LOL10:29
eloglinux sux as a desktop anyhow, i should quit being like cheap trailer trash and buy a mac10:29
ari_Markian: sorry, i didnt wanted to bother you10:29
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JaGWiRE``elog... wtf?10:29
hypnoJaGWiRE`` take a note of what is installed where before you reboot10:29
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JaGWiRE``linu has the best wm's ever10:29
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eloggnome is junk10:30
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elogkde is slightly better10:30
Nermaltroll! :D10:30
MacIverelog: you're not even a funny troll10:30
MacIverc'mon10:30
Nermal*feed feed*10:30
hypnoaye try harder10:30
eloghave you ever used OS X?10:30
GammaRayNermal: no shit10:30
MacIverget some better material10:30
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Nermalelog: yah :)10:30
eloghonestly, it makes everything else look horrid10:30
NermalI like to right click :)10:30
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enploin which file should I add system-wide bash exports? I want to add a directory to the path, and tried adding an appropriate export line to /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile, but it didn't work. actually it only worked for interactive shells10:30
elogyou can right click in os x10:30
GammaRayJaGWiRE``: I think there is an.. "overwrite all" option10:30
Nermalsure sure10:30
Markrianelog, do you have a Mac?10:31
elogmy wife has a couple10:31
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azadhi.. i'm trying to erase my swapspace using qtparted, but i get an error..10:31
GammaRayJaGWiRE``: but alleast since you don't care about you suse install you can get lots of practice (-;10:31
elogi'm stuck with cheap x86 junk10:31
Markrianelog, please use them instead of inflicting linux on yourself10:31
annaAnybody can point me to details about the HP contract for Ubuntu?10:31
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occyThey need to fix ubuntulinux.com   The top left logo needs to be a link back to /10:32
cnez0redgood moaning10:32
ari_ somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam10:32
GammaRayelog: yea.. perhaps you can corridinate your skirts w/ the purdy colors10:32
occyerrr10:32
occy s/com/org/10:32
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MarkrianOh wait, I'm getting a thought - you're drunk, elog, alone, and your wife has left you because you're a raging alcoholic. Naturally she took her Macs with her.10:32
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Super_Cat_Frogargh! CDE is evil!10:32
JaGWiRE``gammaray10:32
NermalMarkrian: hey! I'm on my 4th day without beer :)10:32
JaGWiRE``i have all my data on my D:\ windows partition10:33
elogc'mon, you know that brown stuff looks like crap10:33
JaGWiRE``so i don't wanna fuck ANYTHING up.. i'll bacvkup incase anyway10:33
Super_Cat_Frogmy eyes! my eyes! that awful purple install of solaris10:33
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mikecoslowlaris10:33
GammaRayJaGWiRE``: unplug it? (-;10:33
Nermalelog: you're looking in your toilet, not at your monitor, get it right :)10:33
JaGWiRE``it's a notebook10:33
JaGWiRE``lol10:33
ompaulmikeco, no no no no no - so lart us10:33
Kartagishey10:33
KartagisI need some help10:34
GammaRayJaGWiRE``: seperate hdd? I know on my old ibm you can easily unplug hdds10:34
JaGWiRE``hm10:34
GammaRayold ibm thinkpad that is10:34
JaGWiRE``it's a sony.. i'm not even sure how to open it10:34
JaGWiRE``hehe10:34
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KartagisI want to play mp3 on rhythmbox, it says I don't have necessary plugins, while apt-get says I do10:35
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elogis there some kind of half-assed graphical tool to monkey around in gdm.conf?10:35
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mikecouh, gstreamer mad plugin10:35
MacIverelog: gvim?10:35
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mikecojust used sed10:35
GammaRaygvim? lol10:35
mikecouse10:35
Kartagislet me see that10:35
makyo2anyone here using mozplugger?10:35
azadhi.. i'm trying to erase my swapspace using qtparted, but i get an error.. partition is still bound in or something.. any ideas?10:35
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GammaRaymikeco: well I suppose the answer fits the asker10:36
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elogi was hoping for something point-n-clicky so i could choose from a little color picker10:36
mikecohm/10:36
b0olhow to mount an ext3 hdd?10:36
hypnoazad you probably want to de-activate your swap with swapoff /dev/whatever10:36
b0ol/dev/hda3            1306        9733    67697910   83  Linux10:36
b0ol how to mount this?10:36
Nermalmount /dev/hda3 /mountpoint ?10:36
mikecomount /dev/hda3 /mnt/something10:36
Markrianelog, System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup10:36
azadthanks :)10:36
Kartagismikeco: libmad0 <--- this one?10:36
nubbeb0ol, ubuntuguide.org10:37
Super_Cat_Frogelog - gdmconfig or something like that10:37
GammaRaythere is also gtk config tool for gdm... I'm not telling elog what it is until he apologizes10:37
mikecoKartagis, is that part of gstreamer?10:37
b0oli have to set filesystem :/10:37
makyo2I have a problem with mozplugger and totem-xine... when I revisit a web page with embedded media the media won't play... I have to flush the cache in firefox... anyone knwos why?10:37
b0olbut -t ext3 doesn't work :/10:37
j^3_elog: look under system -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup10:37
Nermalhow do I breath/ dress myself ?10:37
elogAH-HA! YOU'RE DUMBING DOWN LINUX WITH THIS LOGIN CREEN SETUP APP!10:37
j^3_elog: no more potty talk, k? :)10:37
MarkrianKartagis, you want gstreamer0.8-mad10:37
mikecogstreamer0.8-mad10:37
elogbusted!10:37
Nermalelog: yes mac os X boy.. dumbed down BSD indeed :P10:37
MacIverNermal: you don't10:37
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MarkrianShouldn't you be at an AA meeting right now elog?10:38
mikecohmm, must get margaritas10:38
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GammaRayJaGWiRE``: well my suggestion would be to stop living on the edge and make a backup.10:39
KartagisE: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad10:39
b0olroot@sitzfurz:~# mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /media/windows/g10:39
b0olmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,10:39
b0ol       missing codepage or other error10:39
b0ol       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try10:39
b0ol       dmesg | tail  or so10:39
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decafKartagis: add universe and multiverse repos10:40
bur[n] eranyone know if there's a way to effectively use nautilus to right-click on an image file and "set as wallpaper" ??10:40
Nermalb0ol: it formatted ?10:40
b0olerm...10:40
b0oldamn10:40
b0olno :)10:40
b0olhow to do?10:40
MarkrianKartagis, then you don't have the right repositories enabled10:40
Nermalmkfs.ext310:40
MarkrianKartagis, you want to enable the universe repositry10:40
JaGWiRE``gamma10:40
JaGWiRE``i always backup10:40
b0olNermal10:40
JaGWiRE``uncles boring external hd now thoguh10:40
JaGWiRE``:P10:40
b0olis reiser fs better than ext3?10:40
Nermaluh oh..10:41
SQL_Samcan anyone guide me setting up samba? - I did the apt-get samba and it installed but I am confused now what to do?10:41
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Nermalerm.. faster but explodes more spectacularly is the short answer10:41
Nermalbut no doubt a flamewar will kick off about this10:41
b0olmkay10:41
pixil9SQL_Sam: Search for SWAT and install it. http://localhost:90110:41
Nermalreiser is better for lots of small files, ext3 is very stable10:41
b0oli'll try ext310:41
bur[n] erSQL_Sam: what do you want to do...s hare a folder?  right click a folder, and "share folder"10:41
SQL_Samthanks10:41
Kartagisdeb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe <--- like this?10:41
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bur[n] eru don't even need swat10:41
makyo2anyone knows if the backports server is down?10:42
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pixil9Well it's great that it creates shares10:42
pixil9except you can't access them10:42
pixil9so yes you're gonna want swat10:42
SQL_Samyes want to make this a windows sever for windows files10:42
MarkrianSQL_Sam, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba10:42
hypnoSQL_Sam administration->shared folers is a nice graphical admin tool10:42
MarkrianKartagis, yes10:42
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sobersabreyelp crashes!10:43
sobersabrewhat can be the problem ?10:43
sobersabrei am on hoary10:43
KartagisMarkrian: do I have to do anything else after adding the right lines?10:43
sobersabrestraced it10:43
horCan somebody tell me in which package the program 'aclocal' is?10:43
SQL_Sami've looked at the ubuntu help for samba but i'm not showing what it has there....10:43
sobersabreit dies after it tries to open:10:44
horor how I can find out, which package provides a specific executable10:44
GammaRayhor: apt-file10:44
sobersabre/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp"10:44
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b0olgreat10:44
MarkrianKartagis, update the package listings, so either reload using synaptic, or do sudo apt-get update10:44
b0olthnx Nermal10:44
b0ol:)10:44
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ari_somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam10:44
ZotnixI was wondering.. say I have a seperate disk (like 6 gigs really)... if I put my swap on there would that improve performance? (since it would write to the other disk that doesn't get used as much)10:44
horGammaRay: Thank you! :)10:44
Levande1Is there a dpkg command line option to verify the files that were installed by a package?10:44
makyo2so, anyone here using mozplugger?10:44
Levande1dpkg or some other similar command10:45
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b0olgn8 folks10:45
ari_somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam10:45
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Kartagisokay, I did apt-get update10:45
Levande1Zotnix: a little it would improve, could also put the other hard disk on a different IDE ribbon, make even a little faster10:46
horGammaRay: But i thought of a program that can search for files that aren't installed on my system. I am searching for the package i need to have aclocal10:46
Kartagisari_: load the necessary module?10:46
Levande1Zotnix: you realize you don't need 6 gigs of swap though right?10:46
Zotnixoh I know.10:46
MarkrianLevande1, why do you want to do that?10:46
ZotnixBut I'm not using.10:46
ZotnixErm, I'm not using it.10:46
Levande1Markrian: do what?10:46
ZotnixSo I figured I could put my 500 megs or so of swap on i.10:46
Zotnixt10:46
MarkrianLevande1, check files installed from a package10:46
Levande1verify the installation of a package?10:46
Kartagis6 gigs of swap?10:46
Kartagisog10:46
SQL_Sami could not connect to local host?10:47
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MarkrianSQL_Sam, read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba10:47
Levande1Levande1: because I ran out of room on my boot partition during the hoary upgrade, even though the kernel boots fine, i'd like to make sure that the kernel package installed okay10:47
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ZotnixMy reasoning is that when it writes to swap it writes to the disk that my data is on and using... so it slows everything down.10:47
Levande1SQL_Sam: how were you trying to connect to localhost?10:48
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MarkrianLevande1, dpkg would have bombed out if it didn't work10:48
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MarkrianLevande1, so it's almost definitely fine10:48
ZotnixIf I use /dev/hda for my swap (part of it, at least) it won't be writing to the disk I'm using (alleviating some slowdown)10:48
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Levande1Zotnix: yes, is old trick to put user data on one disk, application runtime stuff on another, was done a lot with SCSI disk setups.  Similar would work for swap.  But do not expect it to be twice as fast.10:48
Levande1Markrian: yeah, well, I'd like to make sure...10:49
ZotnixLevande1: Heh, I wouldn't ;)10:49
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Levande1Zotnix: that trick was called scattering and splattering, forget why, would have to google...10:49
ZotnixI can google.10:50
Levande1nobody knows a dpkg command line option to verify the installation of a package?10:50
MarkrianLevande1, dpkg-query -s <package>10:50
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MarkrianLevande1, or rather dpkg-query -s <package> | grep Status10:50
ZotnixI have only two disks. Right now /dev/hdb has /home, /, and swap on it. I want to move swap to /dev/hda2 or something10:50
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KartagisMarkrian: how do I solve the "not installable" problem?10:50
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transgresshey i'm trying to install my wireless, but i can't find the driver... the hp site has it but it's an a self extracting zip10:51
MarkrianKartagis, that depends - what are you trying to install and what's the exact error?10:51
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Markriantransgress, presumably you're going to use ndiswrapper?10:52
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SQL_SamI'm using KDE right now for samba do i need to install smbfs?10:52
KartagisMarkrian: http://www.pastebin.com/27383410:52
MarkrianSQL_Sam, no10:52
transgressMarkrian: yes10:52
dockanehow do you write nowhere ? (like in the middle of nowhere)10:52
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phxguyanyone know how-to make ubuntu auto detect the filesystem10:52
decafphxguy: which filesystem?10:53
MacIverexport NOAUTODETECT=off10:53
phxguyiso9660 or cramfs10:53
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dcravendockane, /dev/null :)10:53
Levande1Markrian: yeah, that command you gave me says it installed okay.  It is wierd though seeing "df" report zero bytes free on the partition that a kernel was installed onto while you weren't even in front of the computer10:53
Levande1thanks for your help10:53
Markriantransgress, so you wanna know how to get at what's inside the self-extracting zip?10:53
MarkrianKartagis, something's VERY wrong - have you added any weird repositories?10:53
bur[n] eranyone use evolution with exchange?  I have a question about offline calendaring10:54
Levande1sucks, because I'm gonna have to jump through hoops to get a bigger kernel partition, i was lucky this time there was enough room, would be surprised next time10:54
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transgressMarkrian: that would work10:54
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MarkrianLevande1, zero bytes free? That DOES sound suspicious :p10:54
dcravenLevande1, maybe you can just symlink a kernel from another disk.10:54
phxguyie added this to my fstab but ubuntu cant determine the filesystem /mnt/app/4/image /mnt/app/4 auto user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 010:54
danthemanif i'm printing on normal 8.5 x 11 paper, do i want letter size paper or A4 in my printer settings?10:54
dcravenLevande1, for the time being anyways...10:54
phxguydantheman: letter10:55
Levande1Markrian: yeah, that's what I was saying, that's why I wanted to verify installation10:55
Markriantransgress, just "unzip driver.exe"10:55
transgressMarkrian: i tried that... doesn't work10:55
Levande1dcraven: it's working as is, I'm worried about future upgrades though.  I can remove one usused kernel this time, but next time, if the next kernel is 1K bigger, I assume it won't install10:55
MarkrianLevande1, I didn't realise... I'm not convinced now :p10:55
ari_Kartagis:what do you mean with module10:55
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dockanedcraven, that would be the posix describtion ? but need it seriosly ;)10:55
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Kartagisari_: you need a module for webcam10:56
Levande1Markrian: well, I'm using the system with that kernel boot now, just fine10:56
SQL_Samdumb question here - Firefox has been timing out left and right (cant even get to google).  I'm using konqueror now and it seems to be rockin - any ideas why?10:56
Levande1talk about cosmic coinicidences10:56
dcravendockane, I don't think there is anything wrong about "nowhere".10:56
MarkrianSQL_Sam, proxy settings correct?10:57
Levande1SQL_Sam: try a ping next time, network could have been flaky, might just be working better now...10:57
SQL_Samauto detect10:57
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SQL_Samit's been a few days10:57
azadwhen i try to resize hda4 i get an error "ntfs_mount failed: Input-/Output error"10:57
SQL_Samconstantly giving me problems10:57
dcravenKartagis, you have the merrillat repository in your sources.list? I'd comment it out and install the gstreamer plugin in Hoary.10:57
ari_<Kartagis>:but i dont know what is a module, could you explain me10:57
Levande1azad: what utility you using to resize, i'll probably have to do the same thing soon10:57
Levande1?10:57
azadqtparted10:57
Levande1your partition utility has a qt GUI front-end?10:58
danthemandoes anyone know how i would fix problems where my printing is a bit fuzzier, and the text is larger than it should be?10:58
SQL_Sami'm wondering if there is something in firefox I can adjust10:58
azadi have a graphical surface if you mean that10:58
ari_Kartagis:????10:58
phxguydecaf: any ideas on this?10:58
Kartagisdcraven: deb http://tr.adeb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted10:59
Kartagisdeb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted rchive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe10:59
Kartagisdeb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe are what I have10:59
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Kartagisari_: there's a webcam-HOWTO on www.tldp.org10:59
dcravenLevande1, there is a gparted too with a gtk frontend to parted.10:59
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Kartagisgo read that10:59
Levande1SQL_Sam: you know there's a heavilty traffic firefox channel on the mozilla irc server, they prolly help you more10:59
ari_<Kartagis: ok11:00
pixil9SQL_Sam, you remove and reinstall it?11:00
SQL_Samis it on this freenode?11:00
SQL_Samhavent tried remove and reisntall yet11:00
Levande1SQL_Sam: there is a #firefox on freenode, but it's always dead, gimme a sec to get you the mozilla irc server11:00
SQL_Samthanks!11:00
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raposahi.11:01
Levande1SQL_Sam: it's on irc.mozilla.org11:01
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dcravenKartagis, is looks like those repos may be out of sync because the required dependancies are in ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu repos.11:01
SQL_Samthank you11:01
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raposaI am have a system with a corrupted raid, and have booted it up with the ubuntu linux live CD.11:01
raposaHow can I view the harddrives?11:02
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raposals -l /dev/hd* reveals nothing11:02
blue_eclipseit's a scsi raid?11:02
raposanope11:02
Kartagisdcraven: so I change tr to ca?11:02
dcravenraposa, you'll need to mount them.11:02
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Kartagisdcraven: or just add it?11:03
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dcravenKartagis, you searched for the libmad0 package and the correct version is unavailable on the repos you use?11:03
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raposamount them just as I would a cdrom drive.11:03
raposadcraven, I give it a go.11:03
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raposajust thought I'd see them in /dev11:03
dcravenraposa, does fdisk see them?11:04
Kartagisroot@kunduz:~ # apt-cache search libmad011:04
Kartagisroot@kunduz:~ #11:04
Kartagis <--- nothing on this11:04
SQL_Samsorry to be such a newbie - I'm using xchat - tried adding irc.mozilla.org but doesnt find it - am i doing the connection right?11:04
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jhaigSometimes when I log in there seems to be an auto-repeat on the keyboard (ie, if I type 'a' I get 'aaaaaaaaa').  The only way I can find to stop this is rebooting - logging out and back in doesn't seem to work.  Anyone any idea why this might be?11:05
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raposadcraven, hmm.  dfisk -l /dev/hdc gives me, "no valid partition table."  nice.11:05
dockanedcraven, thnx11:05
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dcravenraposa, isn't hdc typically a CDROM?11:06
dockaneraposa, have not followed your conversation. gpart may recover lost partition tables11:06
dcravenjhaig, there are settings for this in System->Preferenced->Keyboard, but it sounds like it may be a problem elsewhere. Worth a look though.11:07
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transgressi love vnc11:07
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transgressbut i still gotta get my freaking wireless setup11:07
jhaigdcraven: It is not all the time, but often enough to be very annoying.  I suspect it is not a Gnome problem but something to do with Xorg.11:07
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GugaXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:08
Gugaglxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.11:08
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dcravenSQL_Sam, I'd say you are not adding the connection right as I just did it with success.11:08
j^3_jhaig: no sticky keys, right?11:08
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nickrudjhaig, the only time I had problems like that I had to get a new keyboard11:09
geneo93help getting system sounds on kde anyone11:09
GugaCan someone help me get glxgears running again?11:09
Kartagisdcraven: it says a bug report should be filed11:09
dcravengeneo93, you may have luck here with that, but you may have even better luck in #kubuntu.11:09
jhaigJ^3 I haven't set up any sticky keys.  It is not just the keyboard.  When I try to get the menu I have to keep the mouse button pressed or the menu disappears immediately.11:09
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SQL_Samweird... k trying again11:10
geneo93well even gnome sounds dont work11:10
SQL_Samsays unknown hosts may have mispelled it?11:10
j^3_jhaig: I've had that happen when a book or something was sitting on my keyboard and I didn't notice11:10
geneo93but i dont use gnome atm11:10
j^3_jhaig: sounds a lot like hardware to me11:10
dcravenSQL_Sam, irc.mozilla.org/6667 is what worked for me.11:11
nickrudgeneo93, have you made sure you have no sound servers running and11:11
SQL_Samk11:11
nickrudcat some.wav > /dev/dsp11:11
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transgresshey is there a way to download the kernel sources for ubuntu?  i'm trying to install the nvidia driver11:12
geneo93nickrud:  from boot it shouldn't have and when i use exrernal player it works fine11:12
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nickrudgeneo93, what external player11:12
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geneo93well xmms is the only one i have tried11:13
nickrudgeneo93, in xmms, what sound output option did you select?11:13
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dcravenSQL_Sam, menu bar --> X-Chat | New | Server Tab, then in that new tab, type "/server irc.mozilla.org". You wil then be connected to both freenode and mozilla.11:13
jhaigWell, although I said it didn't happen all the time I have just booted up a third time and it is the same.  This is making the machine completely unusable.  :-(11:14
geneo93that works fine but it only does it once till you close xmms11:14
nickrudgeneo93 ?11:14
raposa\quit11:14
nadcan anyone offer assistance with the multiseat package?11:14
Gugaglxgears isn't working, someone please help11:14
geneo93so i set it back to default11:14
conorany1 think they could help me install vmware? i'm using Hoary Hedgehog kernel: 2.6.10-5-38611:14
j^3_jhaig: always the same key(s)?11:15
conorplease?11:15
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geneo93nickrud:  someone said permissions for default player was turned off11:15
nickrudgeneo93, if we're going to be able to help you, you have to answer the questions we ask :)11:16
jhaigJ^3_: All keys and the mouse are all playing up11:16
dcravenconcept10, does this help? --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/VMware11:16
jhaig... but only after logging in.  I have not changed any of the Gnome settings, though.11:16
j^3_wierd11:16
conormm nope, i have version 511:17
dcravenGuga, is glx loaded in your xorg.conf?11:17
AndyR7.00 fps here on glxgears :(11:17
Gugayes, dcraven11:17
dcravenAndyR, nice :)11:17
dcravenGuga, which video chipset?11:17
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AndyRdcraven, old laptop11:17
geneo93oss nickrud it was set by default11:17
nickrudgood11:17
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conori get this error when trying to configure vmware: make: *** [vmmon.ko]  Error 211:18
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j^3_jhaig: you could try cleaning out your gnome settings, I suppose11:18
conorunable to build vmware module11:18
nickruddo   ps -ax | grep esd11:18
Guganvidia dcraven11:18
j^3_jhaig: is it still messed up if you drop to a console?11:18
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dcravenconor, you followd the directions on that wiki page?11:19
geneo93Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html11:19
geneo93  nickrud11:19
nickrudgeneo93, new to the command line?11:19
conori'll try it, it says VWMARE 5 should work fine tho, and i have it11:19
conorill het back to u on that1...11:19
dcravengeneo93, ps aux  | grep esd11:19
geneo93nickrud:  no11:19
conorget*11:19
Gugadcraven, do you want the xorg.conf on a private chat?11:19
jhaigNo, the console is OK.  And starting xinit from a console is also OK (doesn't start Gnome) so I think something in Gnome must have got changed.11:19
dcravenGuga, no. pastebin.com.11:20
jhaigIf I move .gnome2 to hold.gnome2 will .gnome2 be created new?11:20
nickrudok, what I'm doing is checking to see if gnome's sound deamon (enlightened sound deamon) is running, and if it is, how.11:20
geneo93oot     10758  0.0  0.1   2948   580 pts/1    S+   17:18   0:00 grep esd11:20
j^3_I'd try backing up the .gnome* dirs and blowing them away (without gnome running at the time)11:20
Gugadone, dcraven11:20
nickrudok, now, are you running gnome, or another window manager11:21
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j^3_Let gnome recreate them and see if there is any difference 1) in what gets created, 2) behavior11:21
transgressanyone know a repo that i can use for getting mplayer and blackbox?11:21
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dcravenconor, oh.. You may need to install the linux-headers package for your running kernel so that VMWare can compile against them. The package will be called type "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" in a terminal.11:21
geneo93nic` i have gnome and kde both but kde atm11:21
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nickrudthen let me see ps -ax | grep arts11:22
dockaneBanned Temporary K-line 1440 min. - Blacklisted Proxy found. <- do i have to take this seriously ?11:22
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Upayavirahypno: best way to fix wireless: reboot! It is working fine now, and I'm now chatting from within my Ubuntu install.11:22
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hypnoUpayavira super :)11:22
mikecois jackit worth using?11:23
EdganIs there no VMware package for Ubuntu? Or package to create a package like java-package?11:23
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nickrudarts: don't know what it stands for, but it's the kde sound deamon11:23
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geneo93 S      0:04 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f11:23
geneo9310771 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep arts11:23
geneo93  nickrud11:23
GugaI did, dcraven  under my name11:23
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UpayaviraEdgan: VMWare is a commercial package. So no, to my knowledge there isn't a package for it.11:23
EdganUpayavira: lame11:23
nickrudno sound daemon at all, eh?11:24
UpayaviraEdgan: Why?11:24
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EdganUpayavira: Everything should have a package. Package management is good.11:24
NjalWhat help can someone give me about rolling me own kernel?11:24
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UpayaviraEdgan: Well, yes, but unless VMWare themselves produce one, it is unlikely.11:24
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geneo93kane      9424  0.0  1.4  21924  7720 ?        S    10:40   0:04 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f11:24
geneo93kane     10775  0.0  0.1   2952   588 pts/1    S+   17:22   0:00 grep arts11:24
nickrudgeneo93, I gotta step out right now, but if you want to stick with kde, #kubuntu will help better, but if you want to run gnome I'll be on later this evening.11:25
EdganUpayavira: There is java-package for java. It isn't like it isn't doable.11:25
exarkunUpayavira: nothing prevents anyone else from creating a vmware package11:25
nickrudgeneo93,11:25
exarkunUpayavira: the only thing you have to buy from them is a key11:25
exarkuneverything else is freely downloadable11:25
dockanegeneo93, whats that ?11:25
Kartagishoakaln / bye11:25
geneo93that was second try11:26
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nadEdgan: have you tried the QEMU package?11:26
UpayaviraEdgan: you could always try: http://www.fbriere.net/debian/vmware/11:26
exarkunhas anyone here done a dist upgrade from an existing debian install?  what were the results?11:26
j^3_I did11:26
j^3_mixed results11:26
UpayaviraWhat is the recommended way to play movie dvds on Ubuntu?11:26
jhaigOK, I created a completely new home directory with no files in it at all and I still have the same problem.11:26
EdganUpayavira: I recommend totem-xine. It does a good job for me.11:27
UpayaviraEdgan: thanks11:27
nickrudgeneo93, one last thing: do cat /usr/share/sounds/login.wav   Do you hear it?11:27
j^3_jhaig: true for all user accounts?11:27
jhaigThere is only one user account11:27
j^3_so make another one and check11:28
dcravenGuga, I'm unfamiliar with this video chipset, but do you have the sis module loaded into the kernel?11:28
j^3_you should be able to test with root11:28
geneo93nickrud:  just a mangled mess11:28
Gugadcraven, how would I determine that?11:28
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dcravenGuga, lsmod | grep sis11:28
nadexarkun: me also. also mixed results11:28
nickrudgeneo93, cat /usr/share/sounds/login.wav > /dev/dsp11:28
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EdganUpayavira: I found someone with a Debian repo with VMware. I can probably take his source package and adapt it.11:29
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exarkunnad, j^3_: usable?  fixable?  more trouble than just doing a clean install?11:29
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geneo93nickrud:  same thing11:29
LeeColletonI'm totally baffled by this.  I have two interfaces on my server, eth1 and eth2.  mii-tool says there is a good link on eth2 but I can't ping from 10.0.2.1 to 10.0.2.2 on it.  Any suggestions?11:29
Gugadcraven   sis900                 20100  011:29
Gugai2c_sis630              7436  011:29
Gugai2c_core               22320  1 i2c_sis63011:29
Gugasis_agp                 8036  111:29
Gugaagpgart                33608  1 sis_agp11:29
Gugasis5513                16328  111:29
Gugaide_core              129356  4 ide_cd,ide_generic,sis5513,ide_disk11:29
SavvyPlayerIs it possible to configure apt-get to prefer packages from one distro?11:29
dcravenGuga, don't paste like that in here please.11:29
Gugasorry, dcraven11:30
j^3_exarkun: it was useable and fixable, but it was a *lot* of work to get the packages right11:30
nadexarkun: yes but easier to install fresh11:30
amonkeysavvyplayer: synaptic can do that, dunno about apt-get11:30
dcravenGuga, I'm looking here --> http://www.winischhofer.net/sisdri.shtml11:30
geneo93nickrud:  this time it wont stop11:30
nickrudI really gotta go, but what I'd do reboot, and see if I hear the login, and if not,11:31
jhaigNew account, still same problem.11:31
geneo93k11:31
nickrudstopped at just the point I got your line,11:31
geneo93 l8r then11:31
j^3_SavvyPlayer: look at the apt faq for "pinning"11:31
dcravenGuga, try "modprobe sis".11:31
Gugathere, dcraven11:31
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nickrudbye11:31
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transgressif i'm trying to install the nvidia drivers for ubuntu i can just grab the linux-headers to satisfy it right?11:32
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Gugaerror inserting drm, sis    dcraven11:32
SavvyPlayerthanks!11:32
ZotnixLevande1: Thanks. Successfully moved my swap to /dev/hda111:32
holycowtransgress, just follow the instructions on the ubuntu site for nvidia drivers11:32
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dockaneapt getting currently only returns file or dir not found. mmhh11:32
holycowtransgress, apt-get two times and restart x an dyour done11:32
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nadtransgress: just install the ubuntu package11:32
holycowsame for ati drivers11:32
XandriXjdub isint there isint he ........11:33
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nadhow do i get my open directories in own windows back?11:35
transgressdoes installing the nvidia glx drivers add to my x config properly and whatnot?11:36
transgressi couldn't find the instructions on the ubuntu site via google11:36
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jhaigJ^3_: I tried with a new account and got the same problem.11:36
spiderwormhey all how do I get the shutdown, hibernate options in KDE on hoary 5.0411:36
nadtransgress: there is an instruction in the package description11:37
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SavvyPlayertransgress:11:38
SavvyPlayeryes... follow the debian instructions for building and you'll be fine11:38
nadtransgress: the install is okay but I find driver conflicts occasionally11:38
transgressnad: thanks11:38
transgressSavvyPlayer: you too11:38
mainerspiderworm: right-click on desktop,configure desktop11:39
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j^3_jhaig: do you have any other windows managers installed right now? xfce maybe?  does the problem happen there too?11:40
Guganeed help with glxgears/nvidia driver11:40
j^3_jhaig: any errors in the log files?11:41
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spiderwormmainer: ok11:42
spiderwormmainer: then what?11:42
duddieIs there a deb package for wxWidget dev tools? (lib, headers..)11:43
dcravenGuga, nvidia? I thought it was an sis chip?11:43
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transgressgrar... installing the nvidia packages all kinds of screwed up my resolution11:43
Guganegative, dcraven.11:43
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dcravenGuga, can you paste the output of lspci into pastebin.com?11:44
Gugasure, dcraven.  one nanosecond11:44
dcravenGuga, according to your xorg.conf, it's an sis.11:44
jhaigJ^3_: I don't have any other WM or desktops installed and there are no errors I can find in any of the logs.11:44
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Gugaas you commanded, dcraven.11:45
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jhaigHow do I reconfigure Xorg?  I cannot find anything other than to set the screen resolution.11:45
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dcravenGuga, I'm not seeing any nvidia chipset in there... Only SIS. Can I ask why you think it is an nvidia chip?11:46
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Gugadcraven, it says so on the side of my comp :P11:47
Gugasis drivers to download, dcraven?11:47
dcraven0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31)11:47
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j^3_dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:47
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Gugahmmm.  dcraven, I think I've found the problem.11:47
dcravenGuga, your computer lies. Is this a new box? If so, I'd return it if you thought you were getting an nvidia.11:48
Gugano, donated, dcraven11:48
dcravenGuga, can't complain then I suppose eh? :)11:48
Guga:P dcraven11:48
dcravenGuga, well, just so you know, it's not an nvidia. That may be part of your problem ;P11:48
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Gugayes, I believe so.  dcraven.  what are my options?11:49
rj-I just added a new video card to my machine running hoary with x.org's server installed, I tried to do a dpkg --configure xserver-xorg but it says its already installed and configured11:49
j^3_dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:49
rj-ah. thanks.11:49
dcravenGuga, did you install the nvidia modules? If you did, then you might as well lose them.11:49
Gugaok, dcraven11:49
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andrilhello all11:50
dcravenGuga, is the nvidia module loaded in your kernel? "lsmod | grep nvidia" will tell you.11:51
dcravenhi andril11:51
dcravenbye andril11:51
j^3_jhaig: I'm stumped.  not finding anything similair via google either11:51
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ishkabobhey can anyone help with an ipod question?11:52
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jhaigJ^3_: Thanks for the help.  I think I'll give up for the night.  I just wanted to set up one more thing and then this happened - that was about an hour and a half ago.  :-(11:52
Gugajust nvidia kernel common, dcraven11:52
j^3_jhaig: sorry about that!11:53
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dcravenGuga, uninstall it if you haven't already. I'll assume the answer to my last question was "no". :)11:53
jhaigNot your problem.  Probably something up with the hardware.  I had just plugged in an IPod - I don't know if that is significant, but it shouldn't be.11:53
j^3_is the kb usb?11:54
Gugauninstalled, oh, wise dcraven.  :P11:54
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jhaigNo.11:54
j^3_don't think so then..11:54
nadGuga: no, that's part of the linux restricted kernel package11:54
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thr1cewhy can I not find win32 codecs ?11:54
Gugano nad?11:54
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ishkabobanyone get that last message?11:55
nadGuga: the nvidia kernel common package is a dummy11:55
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Gugayou're telling me, nad11:55
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marckann man hier einfach drauf los fragen ?11:55
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qpidthr1ce: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs11:56
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eaonmarc: #ubuntu-de11:56
\shmarc: in english please11:56
\shmarc: in german on #ubuntu-de11:56
nadthr1ce: see marillat11:56
ishkabobcan anyone help with an ipod question?11:56
thr1cemarillat ?11:56
behishkabob: maybe11:56
nadi'm looking it up11:56
thr1ceE: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate11:56
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nad# deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main11:57
ishkabobI think that this post is valid because I have been combing the internet for about a week now trying to figure out how to do this.11:57
ishkabobI have a 3rd Gen, firewire, 40gig Ipod, and Hoary.11:57
ishkabobOriginally when I installed Ubuntu, I could plug my iPod in, and Ubuntuwould automatically recognize it and mount it. I would then use thecommand "sudo eject /dev/sda2" to eject it. However, if I would ejectit, and then try and plug it back in, ubuntu would route it to/dev/sdb2. Now, when I plug the ipod in, nothing happens. It justcharges. This happened once before, and reinstalling the hal packagesseemed to fix the problem. I tried it again...no such luck11:57
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Gugaglxgears still doesn't work, nad11:58
dcravenGuga, now that the nvidia stuff is uninstalled, the first thing I'd do is try restarting X by logging out of GNOME and back in.11:58
marci have a problem with my sound card. i can hear some noise when ubuntu starts up, but realplayer hang up when i start it11:58
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transgresshey anyone know of a repo that i can use to get mplayer?11:58
Gugadcraven, ok.11:58
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transgressi'd much prefer it to compiling it manually11:58
nadthr1ce: add that to your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment it11:58
Gugadcraven, nad said I need it11:58
Aboodguys, iv got proplem with sound, when i try to open Totem on a move; it told me Error: Alsa Device "Default" is already in use by another program . ??? any idea ?!11:58
dcravenGuga, you need nvidia modules for an SIS chipset??11:58
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behishkabob: type lsmod and see if sbp2 ieee1394 and ohci1394 are running11:59
thr1cenad, ok; it'll work alright with breezy right?11:59
ishkabobk11:59
Gugaok, dcraven11:59
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thr1ceW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90711:59
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