[04:52] <markc> is anyone alive and could help me with some debian-installer advice ?
[05:08] <uniq> markc: what is the problem? (not that i'm a d-i guru.. but you never know)
[05:08] <markc> uniq> is pressed/file=/cdrom/pressed meant to be a file ?
[05:09] <markc> preseed
[05:09] <uniq> sorry, I don't know.
[05:09] <markc> the example I've seen mentions /cdrom/preseed but there is a /preseed folder on the liveCD
[05:11] <markc> np, I've got a reasonable remaster worked out but I'm held up with a few d-i issues
[05:12] <markc> I can't get qemu or uml to work so I'm stuck burning coasters = boring :)
[05:14] <markc> would you happen to have any idea how I could completely get rid of sudo ?
[05:15] <uniq> 2sec. mom on the phone.
[05:17] <uniq> there..
[05:17] <markc> heh, some things _are_ important :)
[05:18] <uniq> get rid of.. I don't know if thats such a good idea.. to remove.. anyway.. atleast check that the applications you install don't require it.
[05:19] <uniq> but wouldn't 'apt-get --purge remove sudo' remove it? 
[05:19] <markc> not sure how to check that... short of doing it and blow another cd and see what happens... done... I'll know in half an hour I guess... and I'll try a different preseed target and see if that works
[05:20] <markc> uniq> oh yeah, that will remove it but I'm not sure how much of the liveCD user install depends on it
[05:20] <uniq> ahh.. i don't know either.. 
[05:21] <markc> I've thrown a bunch of custom settings into /etc/skel, and that mostly works okay
[05:21] <markc> .kde settings that is
[05:22] <markc> there were a couple of hoary-seccurity kde-* packages just come thru so another coaster is worth seeing if they work okay anyway
[05:29] <dato> http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2005/04/msg00205.html
[05:33] <markc> dpkg --force-overwrite is a workaround but I guess whoever makes the package should fix it
[05:39] <uniq> riddell:do you have edit access on kubuntu.org ? - would be great if you added a link to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27944 under where to get help.
[06:19] <markc> so, removing sudo was maybe not such a good idea :) ... but at least the preseed/file worked and I have a static route, and no questions during bootup, one step forward, one step back
[06:20] <uniq> heh.. greeat :)
[06:20] <uniq> everything but sudo.. anyway :)
[06:21] <markc> oops, wrong keyboard... indeed, it sucks
[06:21] <uniq> i'm trying to get used to sudo now.. 
[06:22] <uniq> it's hard.
[06:23] <markc> I find it hard to say anything good  about the sudo strategy... but that's partly why I am doing a remastered livecd, to get rid of it
[06:24] <uniq> heh.. what is wrong with it? 
[06:26] <markc> mostly I am not used to it but it also stuffs up the setting up of custom user settings... but that may be because I have never used sudo so I just don't know how to workaround it... just easier if it wasn't being used
[06:27] <markc> as it is now, removing sudo seems o have prevented any kicker applets (start menu) from starting, but all else seems okay
[06:29] <markc> cd /etc/init.d
[06:29] <markc> oops  again :)
[06:32] <uniq> sudo isn't that bad actually.
[06:36] <ubuntu> hello markc, fancy meeting you here
[06:37] <markc> ah, it's my other self on the liveCD talking to me... at least konversation works :)
[06:39] <ubuntu> and via a preseeded auto install on a fixed IP no less!
[06:39] <markc> heh, I've never done that before :)
[06:40] <uniq> heh.. preseed is the default settings or something? 
[06:41] <markc> yeah, for the d-i tuff, at least you can create a file and put some settings in it... any debconf settings, and the installer will jump over some questions with the defaults you've setup in the preseed file
[06:48] <ubuntu> hehe, now I've dialed in via a modem... so kppp is working okay too
[06:50] <markc> aside from no kicker applets, everything seems to be working... and this is quite a heavily modified liveCD... lots of a/v stuff added
[06:51] <ubuntu> asidewell mr markc, nice seeing you again... bye
[07:06] <markc> wow, I'm streaming an mp3 to kaffeine.. sound works!
[07:07] <markc> uniq> do you happen to have skype... and bored by any chance ? :)
[07:14] <uniq> no, sorry.. haven't signed up there yet.. 
[07:14] <uniq> does skype for linux support artsd by any chance? 
[07:14] <uniq> .. on amd64.. heh.. 
[07:23] <markc> uniq> yes, I think so... I'm using it on amd64 and it's working okay via alsa and a sblive card... when I get arts to work, that is
[07:25] <markc> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
[07:27] <markc> damn, if I had 4 ears I could sign up for another account and talk to myself I guess :)
[07:27] <uniq> oh.. I don't have a microphone either :/
[07:28] <markc> woops, heh
[07:41] <markc> heh, skype on this livecd is working
[07:51] <uniq> :)
[07:59] <markc> yeah well I can only talk to myself for so long... pretty cool as it's on cheap hardware with only 256mb of ram, and the video card is taking 32mb... and the vesa fram buffer is currently doing 1280x1024... on a 15" monitor!