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| meng | helo? | 04:45 |
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| meng | is there a way to correctly install lang packs in ubuntu? | 04:46 |
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| meng | is there a Manglish or Singlish team there? | 04:56 |
| JanC | meng : language packs should install correctly with apt-get of synaptic ? | 05:29 |
| meng | not in my case | 05:29 |
| meng | just my time and dates changed | 05:29 |
| JanC | no translations ? | 05:30 |
| JanC | did you look if there are translations available with synaptic? | 05:30 |
| meng | just check rosetta's stats for MS_MY and u'll see what i mean | 05:30 |
| meng | it's there, but me thinks it's imcomplete | 05:31 |
| JanC | there are no translations for your language ? | 05:31 |
| meng | seen most work on rhytmbox, but not for gnome itself | 05:31 |
| JanC | MS is maleysian ? | 05:31 |
| meng | Malaysian, correction | 05:32 |
| JanC | English isn't my mother tongue, so sorry for the errror :) | 05:32 |
| meng | what's your's then? | 05:33 |
| JanC | In Dutch it's " Maleisi " :) | 05:33 |
| meng | ah | 05:33 |
| JanC | you can help translating on Rosetta if you wish | 05:33 |
| meng | supposedly my actual mother tounge is mandrin | 05:33 |
| JanC | one of the chinese languages | 05:33 |
| meng | but being malaysian made Malay an important one here | 05:34 |
| meng | plus, i didn't learn mandrin at all, a banana so to speak | 05:34 |
| meng | i managed to do some for update manager though | 05:35 |
| meng | but the complexity of the language to IT is a bother | 05:36 |
| meng | mostly it turns out funny or just plain gibberish | 05:36 |
| JanC | yeah, translations aren't easy | 05:36 |
| JanC | not easy to do good | 05:36 |
| meng | like Windows XP starter edition | 05:36 |
| JanC | I have no XP :) | 05:37 |
| meng | i still have it and i tried the BM pack before | 05:37 |
| JanC | BM ? | 05:37 |
| meng | made my close female friend run away in fear | 05:37 |
| meng | Bahasa Melayu | 05:38 |
| JanC | another language or just the local way to name the language ? | 05:38 |
| meng | Tetap aturcara and lalai under add remove programs is not understandable by even locals | 05:39 |
| meng | BM is the local way of naming the language | 05:39 |
| meng | used to be Bahasa Malaysia during the early years of the combintaion of sarawak and sabah | 05:40 |
| meng | but eventually the governement reverted back to the original term | 05:41 |
| meng | in English it should be called Malay | 05:41 |
| meng | but i feel bad coz the government dept only helped microsoft, not the OSS community too | 05:42 |
| meng | damm the DBP | 05:43 |
| JanC | here in Belgium it's a bit mixed, some help OSS, others help MS & the like | 05:44 |
| meng | JanC: the OSS culture is not even really started | 05:44 |
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| meng | why bother using linux when WinXP sells for only USD1.25 a pop | 05:44 |
| JanC | I guess that's not legal copies ? :-) | 05:45 |
| meng | yup | 05:45 |
| meng | availible at the night markets, shops and even peddlers | 05:46 |
| JanC | I mean, almost 50% of the people in Belgium have broadband internet I think, so WinXP is in practice free here... :-( | 05:46 |
| JanC | well, the price of a CD-R | 05:47 |
| meng | here's it's easier to buy one in the shop than downloading it | 05:48 |
| meng | most are still stuck with modems | 05:48 |
| meng | the 56K variety | 05:49 |
| JanC | my parents still have a modem, I always get very nervous from waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, ... :) | 05:50 |
| JanC | when you're used to broadband the difference is huge | 05:50 |
| meng | i know how it feels like | 05:50 |
| meng | using NS3 on Win95 | 05:51 |
| JanC | if you want I still have a copy of NS 0.94beta or something like that :) | 05:51 |
| meng | with the few thousands using Telekom Malaysia's modem connection | 05:51 |
| meng | even dillo is better than that | 05:52 |
| JanC | or links :-) | 05:53 |
| meng | but the absoulte monopoly of the telco system here is really bad | 05:53 |
| meng | it can take a year to approve a DSL connection | 05:53 |
| meng | and too add iam studying at a uni owned by this telco | 05:54 |
| JanC | here in belgium they ended the national telco monopoly, but they are still very powerful | 05:55 |
| JanC | but I have cable internet myself | 05:56 |
| meng | i can't even cable even if i wanted to | 05:56 |
| meng | there's no cable infrastructure here | 05:56 |
| meng | the "cable" TV here is some censored satelitte dish piece of crap | 05:57 |
| JanC | well, in Belgium something like 97% of all households have cable | 05:57 |
| meng | porno 24/7 ah? | 05:58 |
| JanC | no | 05:58 |
| JanC | some channels at night | 05:58 |
| meng | here's it's censored, so no playboy tv here | 05:58 |
| JanC | for porno 24/7 you need a satellite dish | 05:59 |
| meng | not like i watch those | 05:59 |
| JanC | or now my cable ISP has movies for download ;) | 05:59 |
| meng | here's it's an offense to install other kinds of dishes accept for the legal astro ones | 05:59 |
| meng | a jailable ofense | 06:00 |
| JanC | aw, bad :-( | 06:00 |
| meng | so the astro dish is the only cable here | 06:00 |
| meng | which goes riot in the rain | 06:00 |
| JanC | I guess a real cable isn't possible in a large country like malaysia anyway ? | 06:01 |
| meng | too much cost to setup | 06:01 |
| meng | easier to lauch Measat than to lay cable | 06:02 |
| meng | especially in sabah and sarawak | 06:02 |
| meng | *launch | 06:02 |
| JanC | Belgium has 338 inhabitants / km | 06:02 |
| meng | the denser places here is in the main cities | 06:03 |
| meng | esp the capital city | 06:03 |
| JanC | they could have cable in the cities then | 06:03 |
| meng | it's already troublesome to drive around with the amount of roadworks around | 06:04 |
| JanC | but they would need the dishes for other places anyway | 06:04 |
| meng | and cable laying would made it worse | 06:04 |
| meng | since the phone cables have is everywhere, so just use it | 06:05 |
| meng | it's the only uncensored way to get any info or smut | 06:06 |
| meng | not like i watch smut to start with | 06:07 |
| JanC | we didn't think that ;-) | 06:07 |
| meng | http://regnyouth.blogspot.com/ | 06:08 |
| meng | even Eminem sold here is heavily censored | 06:11 |
| meng | * you, you * ** | 06:12 |
| meng | something like that | 06:12 |
| JanC | lol | 06:13 |
| JanC | they did that in the US too when I was in NYC 10-15 years ago | 06:13 |
| meng | even talking about malay special rights can get me into hot soup | 06:14 |
| meng | i prefer the openess of most western nations | 06:15 |
| JanC | I can imagine that | 06:16 |
| meng | are you a male? | 06:17 |
| JanC | yes | 06:17 |
| JanC | why ? :-) | 06:17 |
| meng | imagine a world where alomost all the girls look alike in headscarves | 06:17 |
| meng | or tudung as it's called here | 06:18 |
| meng | see my point? | 06:18 |
| JanC | well, I don't care what women & girls wear, but I guess not all of them wear those voluntary... | 06:19 |
| meng | thank goodness it non complusary item unlike Iran | 06:20 |
| JanC | headscarves are a hot topic in western europe... | 06:21 |
| meng | they start looking alike in those things | 06:21 |
| meng | i even called the wrong girl by mistake once | 06:22 |
| JanC | lol | 06:22 |
| JanC | but of course it's not really funny... | 06:22 |
| meng | but it's ironic when they start wearing thight jeans and figure hugging clothes with a hijab on | 06:23 |
| meng | defeats the idea in the first place | 06:23 |
| JanC | well, you can recognise them from other body parts then ;-) | 06:23 |
| meng | not in a loose baju kurung i can't | 06:24 |
| meng | even worse back in school | 06:24 |
| JanC | I mean with the tight jeans etc. | 06:24 |
| meng | then it's sexual harassment | 06:27 |
| meng | and gender profiling | 06:27 |
| JanC | oops 8-S | 06:28 |
| JanC | anyway... | 06:28 |
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| JanC | back :) | 06:34 |
| meng | just went to fetch lunch | 06:39 |
| meng | it's GMT+8 | 06:39 |
| JanC | no, It's GMT+2 :) | 06:40 |
| meng | that's belgium | 06:40 |
| JanC | well, normally we're GMT+1 | 06:40 |
| JanC | but now is 'daylight savings time' | 06:41 |
| JanC | and geographically, we should be in GMT | 06:41 |
| meng | well now it's Prophet's Muhammad's Birthday | 06:41 |
| meng | so it's a national holiday now | 06:41 |
| JanC | hope you get a free day then | 06:42 |
| meng | it is | 06:42 |
| meng | the large amount of races here = lots of holiday | 06:42 |
| meng | hari raya or eid, chinese new year, deepavali, christmas plus quite a number more | 06:43 |
| meng | more of it during nov and december | 06:44 |
| meng | don't really know about the amount of hols in belgium though | 06:46 |
| meng | is it alot? | 06:52 |
| JanC | there are 10 official national holidays | 06:54 |
| meng | just 10, wow | 06:54 |
| meng | here, even the sultans and the Yang Di Pertuan Agong b'day too are holidays | 06:56 |
| meng | plus the city days ans things like that | 06:56 |
| JanC | those 10 are the days everybody gets a free day by law | 06:56 |
| meng | remembered right after the 98' commonwealth games in KL, there's also a holiday too | 06:57 |
| JanC | everybody gets 20 more workdays paid to be taken freely... | 06:57 |
| JanC | 20 or more | 06:57 |
| meng | and all that i mentions is by law | 06:57 |
| JanC | and there holidays you don't get free on | 06:57 |
| meng | oh, and the Yang Di Pertuan Agong is the head of state | 06:58 |
| meng | though all the political power is owned by the PM | 06:58 |
| meng | since hari raya celebs last for a whole month, | 06:59 |
| JanC | yeah, we still have a king, political power is owned by the elected government :) | 06:59 |
| meng | but we only have the durian to compare against belgian choclates | 07:00 |
| meng | should ship one for you then | 07:01 |
| JanC | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian | 07:02 |
| meng | i know what it is, thank you | 07:03 |
| meng | durian condoms anyone? | 07:03 |
| meng | ur terrified of it? | 07:04 |
| JanC | """A durian falling on a person's head can cause serious injuries or death""" | 07:04 |
| meng | well, the thing is thorny and weighs about a kilo or 2 | 07:05 |
| meng | and it only falls at night | 07:05 |
| meng | which idiot walks in a durian plantation at night anyway | 07:05 |
| JanC | if you know you won't of course | 07:06 |
| meng | have you even seen one, or even tried it? | 07:07 |
| JanC | never eaten it | 07:07 |
| meng | it's enlightening | 07:07 |
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| JanC | I think my sister & her friend ate them in India ? | 07:08 |
| meng | it's only availble in malaysia, thailandand indonesia | 07:09 |
| meng | *thailand | 07:09 |
| JanC | according to wikipedia they even grow them in australia :) | 07:10 |
| JanC | but it's probably not native there | 07:10 |
| meng | not even native | 07:10 |
| meng | won't be as good too | 07:10 |
| JanC | probably not | 07:11 |
| meng | kinda funny as aussie customs forbid bringing durians into australia | 07:11 |
| meng | imagine the smell of the incinerator.... | 07:11 |
| meng | but the oddest serving is with watery rice | 07:12 |
| meng | nasi durian in other speak | 07:12 |
| JanC | well, I'm going to sleep a bit now (7.13 am and didn't sleep yet) | 07:13 |
| meng | but Hawaiian durian, oh please for the love of god | 07:13 |
| meng | nights | 07:13 |
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| Kinnison | Morning all | 10:47 |
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| mkde | carlos, here? | 03:41 |
| carlos | yes | 03:41 |
| mkde | carlos, hiya. Did you see my couple of questions yesterday? | 03:42 |
| carlos | No, sorry, can you repeat them? | 03:42 |
| mkde | carlos, i can email them to you, that way you can deal with them when you are free | 03:42 |
| carlos | ok, thanks | 03:42 |
| mkde | thanks yourself :) | 03:43 |
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| mkde | carlos, thanks | 04:17 |
| carlos | np | 04:19 |
| mkde | carlos, what is the difference between those poxml methods? perhaps you can contribute to our methods to help us learn about l18n | 04:24 |
| carlos | are just different scripts | 04:24 |
| mkde | no advantages/disadvantages | 04:24 |
| mkde | ? | 04:24 |
| carlos | one depends on QT and the other one just on Python | 04:24 |
| mkde | hmmm | 04:25 |
| carlos | well, I cannot give you such information | 04:25 |
| mkde | yeah froud is quite kde friendly | 04:25 |
| carlos | as I don't know the details | 04:25 |
| mkde | ok | 04:25 |
| carlos | mkde: but adding a dependency on QT just to get .pot files... is ... | 04:25 |
| carlos | I suppose you understand my point... | 04:25 |
| mkde | yes | 04:25 |
| mkde | also as I understand it, ubuntu's general policy is python friendly | 04:26 |
| carlos | yes, but in this case, you should use the best tool that fits your needs | 04:26 |
| mkde | sure | 04:26 |
| carlos | I mean, I don't try you move to the python one. If the KDE one is better, is ok | 04:27 |
| carlos | but if both are good, I think you should choose the one with less dependencies | 04:27 |
| mkde | seems they had some problems getting the gnome one working | 04:27 |
| carlos | ok | 04:30 |
| mkde | catch ya later :) | 04:38 |
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