=== bradb|out [~bradb@MTL-ppp-144647.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #launchpad === JanC [~JanC@dD5770455.access.telenet.be] has joined #launchpad === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #launchpad === meng [~meng@219.95.187.192] has joined #launchpad [04:45] helo? [04:46] is there a way to correctly install lang packs in ubuntu? === SteveA [~steve@61.95.31.117] has joined #launchpad [04:56] is there a Manglish or Singlish team there? [05:29] meng : language packs should install correctly with apt-get of synaptic ? [05:29] not in my case [05:29] just my time and dates changed [05:30] no translations ? [05:30] did you look if there are translations available with synaptic? [05:30] just check rosetta's stats for MS_MY and u'll see what i mean [05:31] it's there, but me thinks it's imcomplete [05:31] there are no translations for your language ? [05:31] seen most work on rhytmbox, but not for gnome itself [05:31] MS is maleysian ? [05:32] Malaysian, correction [05:32] English isn't my mother tongue, so sorry for the errror :) [05:33] what's your's then? [05:33] In Dutch it's " Maleisi " :) [05:33] ah [05:33] you can help translating on Rosetta if you wish [05:33] supposedly my actual mother tounge is mandrin [05:33] one of the chinese languages [05:34] but being malaysian made Malay an important one here [05:34] plus, i didn't learn mandrin at all, a banana so to speak [05:35] i managed to do some for update manager though [05:36] but the complexity of the language to IT is a bother [05:36] mostly it turns out funny or just plain gibberish [05:36] yeah, translations aren't easy [05:36] not easy to do good [05:36] like Windows XP starter edition [05:37] I have no XP :) [05:37] i still have it and i tried the BM pack before [05:37] BM ? [05:37] made my close female friend run away in fear [05:38] Bahasa Melayu [05:38] another language or just the local way to name the language ? [05:39] Tetap aturcara and lalai under add remove programs is not understandable by even locals [05:39] BM is the local way of naming the language [05:40] used to be Bahasa Malaysia during the early years of the combintaion of sarawak and sabah [05:41] but eventually the governement reverted back to the original term [05:41] in English it should be called Malay [05:42] but i feel bad coz the government dept only helped microsoft, not the OSS community too [05:43] damm the DBP [05:44] here in Belgium it's a bit mixed, some help OSS, others help MS & the like [05:44] JanC: the OSS culture is not even really started === bradb|out [~bradb@MTL-ppp-144647.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #launchpad [05:44] why bother using linux when WinXP sells for only USD1.25 a pop [05:45] I guess that's not legal copies ? :-) [05:45] yup [05:46] availible at the night markets, shops and even peddlers [05:46] I mean, almost 50% of the people in Belgium have broadband internet I think, so WinXP is in practice free here... :-( [05:47] well, the price of a CD-R [05:48] here's it's easier to buy one in the shop than downloading it [05:48] most are still stuck with modems [05:49] the 56K variety [05:50] my parents still have a modem, I always get very nervous from waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, ... :) [05:50] when you're used to broadband the difference is huge [05:50] i know how it feels like [05:51] using NS3 on Win95 [05:51] if you want I still have a copy of NS 0.94beta or something like that :) [05:51] with the few thousands using Telekom Malaysia's modem connection [05:52] even dillo is better than that [05:53] or links :-) [05:53] but the absoulte monopoly of the telco system here is really bad [05:53] it can take a year to approve a DSL connection [05:54] and too add iam studying at a uni owned by this telco [05:55] here in belgium they ended the national telco monopoly, but they are still very powerful [05:56] but I have cable internet myself [05:56] i can't even cable even if i wanted to [05:56] there's no cable infrastructure here [05:57] the "cable" TV here is some censored satelitte dish piece of crap [05:57] well, in Belgium something like 97% of all households have cable [05:58] porno 24/7 ah? [05:58] no [05:58] some channels at night [05:58] here's it's censored, so no playboy tv here [05:59] for porno 24/7 you need a satellite dish [05:59] not like i watch those [05:59] or now my cable ISP has movies for download ;) [05:59] here's it's an offense to install other kinds of dishes accept for the legal astro ones [06:00] a jailable ofense [06:00] aw, bad :-( [06:00] so the astro dish is the only cable here [06:00] which goes riot in the rain [06:01] I guess a real cable isn't possible in a large country like malaysia anyway ? [06:01] too much cost to setup [06:02] easier to lauch Measat than to lay cable [06:02] especially in sabah and sarawak [06:02] *launch [06:02] Belgium has 338 inhabitants / km [06:03] the denser places here is in the main cities [06:03] esp the capital city [06:03] they could have cable in the cities then [06:04] it's already troublesome to drive around with the amount of roadworks around [06:04] but they would need the dishes for other places anyway [06:04] and cable laying would made it worse [06:05] since the phone cables have is everywhere, so just use it [06:06] it's the only uncensored way to get any info or smut [06:07] not like i watch smut to start with [06:07] we didn't think that ;-) [06:08] http://regnyouth.blogspot.com/ [06:11] even Eminem sold here is heavily censored [06:12] * you, you * ** [06:12] something like that [06:13] lol [06:13] they did that in the US too when I was in NYC 10-15 years ago [06:14] even talking about malay special rights can get me into hot soup [06:15] i prefer the openess of most western nations [06:16] I can imagine that [06:17] are you a male? [06:17] yes [06:17] why ? :-) [06:17] imagine a world where alomost all the girls look alike in headscarves [06:18] or tudung as it's called here [06:18] see my point? [06:19] well, I don't care what women & girls wear, but I guess not all of them wear those voluntary... [06:20] thank goodness it non complusary item unlike Iran [06:21] headscarves are a hot topic in western europe... [06:21] they start looking alike in those things [06:22] i even called the wrong girl by mistake once [06:22] lol [06:22] but of course it's not really funny... [06:23] but it's ironic when they start wearing thight jeans and figure hugging clothes with a hijab on [06:23] defeats the idea in the first place [06:23] well, you can recognise them from other body parts then ;-) [06:24] not in a loose baju kurung i can't [06:24] even worse back in school [06:24] I mean with the tight jeans etc. [06:27] then it's sexual harassment [06:27] and gender profiling [06:28] oops 8-S [06:28] anyway... === JanC is going to reboot back to Ubuntu first now === JanC [~janc@JanC.member.lugwv] has joined #launchpad [06:34] back :) [06:39] just went to fetch lunch [06:39] it's GMT+8 [06:40] no, It's GMT+2 :) [06:40] that's belgium [06:40] well, normally we're GMT+1 [06:41] but now is 'daylight savings time' [06:41] and geographically, we should be in GMT [06:41] well now it's Prophet's Muhammad's Birthday [06:41] so it's a national holiday now [06:42] hope you get a free day then [06:42] it is [06:42] the large amount of races here = lots of holiday [06:43] hari raya or eid, chinese new year, deepavali, christmas plus quite a number more [06:44] more of it during nov and december [06:46] don't really know about the amount of hols in belgium though [06:52] is it alot? [06:54] there are 10 official national holidays [06:54] just 10, wow [06:56] here, even the sultans and the Yang Di Pertuan Agong b'day too are holidays [06:56] plus the city days ans things like that [06:56] those 10 are the days everybody gets a free day by law [06:57] remembered right after the 98' commonwealth games in KL, there's also a holiday too [06:57] everybody gets 20 more workdays paid to be taken freely... [06:57] 20 or more [06:57] and all that i mentions is by law [06:57] and there holidays you don't get free on [06:58] oh, and the Yang Di Pertuan Agong is the head of state [06:58] though all the political power is owned by the PM [06:59] since hari raya celebs last for a whole month, [06:59] yeah, we still have a king, political power is owned by the elected government :) [07:00] but we only have the durian to compare against belgian choclates [07:01] should ship one for you then [07:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian [07:03] i know what it is, thank you [07:03] durian condoms anyone? [07:04] ur terrified of it? [07:04] """A durian falling on a person's head can cause serious injuries or death""" [07:05] well, the thing is thorny and weighs about a kilo or 2 [07:05] and it only falls at night [07:05] which idiot walks in a durian plantation at night anyway [07:06] if you know you won't of course [07:07] have you even seen one, or even tried it? [07:07] never eaten it [07:07] it's enlightening === ddaa [~ddaa@150.203.247.9] has joined #launchpad [07:08] I think my sister & her friend ate them in India ? [07:09] it's only availble in malaysia, thailandand indonesia [07:09] *thailand [07:10] according to wikipedia they even grow them in australia :) [07:10] but it's probably not native there [07:10] not even native [07:10] won't be as good too [07:11] probably not [07:11] kinda funny as aussie customs forbid bringing durians into australia [07:11] imagine the smell of the incinerator.... [07:12] but the oddest serving is with watery rice [07:12] nasi durian in other speak [07:13] well, I'm going to sleep a bit now (7.13 am and didn't sleep yet) [07:13] but Hawaiian durian, oh please for the love of god [07:13] nights === JanC says bye to overyone :) === asgeirf [~asgeir@203-206-22-136.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad [10:47] Morning all === bradb|out [~bradb@MTL-ppp-144647.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #launchpad === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === mkde [~Matt_@mdke.user] has joined #launchpad [03:41] carlos, here? [03:41] yes [03:42] carlos, hiya. Did you see my couple of questions yesterday? [03:42] No, sorry, can you repeat them? [03:42] carlos, i can email them to you, that way you can deal with them when you are free [03:42] ok, thanks [03:43] thanks yourself :) === bradb|out [~bradb@MTL-ppp-144647.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #launchpad [04:17] carlos, thanks [04:19] np [04:24] carlos, what is the difference between those poxml methods? perhaps you can contribute to our methods to help us learn about l18n [04:24] are just different scripts [04:24] no advantages/disadvantages [04:24] ? [04:24] one depends on QT and the other one just on Python [04:25] hmmm [04:25] well, I cannot give you such information [04:25] yeah froud is quite kde friendly [04:25] as I don't know the details [04:25] ok [04:25] mkde: but adding a dependency on QT just to get .pot files... is ... [04:25] I suppose you understand my point... [04:25] yes [04:26] also as I understand it, ubuntu's general policy is python friendly [04:26] yes, but in this case, you should use the best tool that fits your needs [04:26] sure [04:27] I mean, I don't try you move to the python one. If the KDE one is better, is ok [04:27] but if both are good, I think you should choose the one with less dependencies [04:27] seems they had some problems getting the gnome one working [04:30] ok [04:38] catch ya later :) === bradb_ [~bradb@MTL-ppp-144647.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #launchpad === bradb_ [~bradb@MTL-ppp-144647.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #launchpad === moquist [~moquist@pool-64-223-182-188.man.east.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad