[04:55] <jsgotangco> what the i got invited to test out MS Server 2003 R2
[04:55] <jsgotangco> haha
[06:36] <jsgotangco> abelli, hi
[08:30] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia, hi
[08:34] <Burgundavia> salut
[08:59] <jsgotangco> thats great my phone crashed
[08:59] <Burgundavia> crappy
[08:59] <jsgotangco> you want to know what it runs
[09:01] <jsgotangco> MS Smartphone :( yes i am shamed
[09:25] <Burgundavia> hmm, ms smartphone
[09:28] <jsgotangco> hey! it was a gift from my wife
[09:45] <Burgundavia> yes, non-techys frequently buy odd gifts like that
[09:45] <Burgundavia> they don't really know the difference
[09:48] <jsgotangco> this phone isnt to smart at all
[09:48] <Burgundavia> it is MS, what do you expect?
[09:49] <jsgotangco> well i used to have a Zaurus and it was crappy so i replaced it with a Pocket PC
[09:51] <Burgundavia> unfortunately, I bought a palm
[09:51] <Burgundavia> so their is no linux for it
[09:51] <jsgotangco> at least they sync nicely
[09:51] <jsgotangco> unlikethe Zaurus where it cant even sync to  linux
[09:52] <jsgotangco> it took a while for KitchenSync to do that
[10:30] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia, bye bye i may not be online at all tommorow to prepare stuff
[10:47] <Kinnison> Morning all
[10:54] <Burgundavia> salut
[10:58] <Kinnison> ca va?
[11:08] <Burgundavia> it vas
[11:08] <Burgundavia> yesterday I wanted to kill something. Feeling better today
[11:11] <Kinnison> ca marche alors
[11:25] <abelli> jeffsch: =
[11:25] <abelli> jeffsch: sorry .
[11:25] <abelli> Kinnison: ?
[11:28] <Kinnison> abelli: ?
[11:32] <abelli> Kinnison: what language is that :)?
[11:37] <Kinnison> abelli: unaccented french
[11:46] <abelli> Kinnison: huh right :)
[11:50] <Burgundavia> ugh, feeling stupid
[11:50] <Burgundavia> cannot figure out how to add .desktop files
[11:50] <Burgundavia> there is some step I am missing, but I cannot find it
[03:47] <mkde> where is froud these days?
[03:56] <Burgundavia> around
[03:56] <Burgundavia> did you get a response for the ubuntuguide.org guy?
[04:01] <mkde> no
[04:02] <mkde> apparently he posts on the forum occasionally
[04:03] <Burgundavia> ugh
[04:03] <Burgundavia> he is being most non-responsive
[04:03] <Burgundavia> I have seen posts to the forums though
[04:04] <mkde> its a real shame we can't pool resources
[04:05] <Burgundavia> indeed
[04:06] <Burgundavia> as the current guide I wouldn't recommend to anyone
[04:06] <mkde> i wish he would specify which repository is needed for which application, rather than telling all users to add all repositories
[04:07] <Burgundavia> the marilliat one is annoying
[04:07] <Burgundavia> as stable and testing don't have am64
[04:08] <Burgundavia> mkde, the word "mains" common in the UK
[04:08] <mkde> ?
[04:08] <Burgundavia> for power
[04:08] <mkde> yes
[04:08] <Burgundavia> Ie, you computer is on the mains
[04:08] <mkde> yes
[04:08] <mkde> if you are asking me ;)
[04:08] <Burgundavia> what about AC power
[04:08] <Burgundavia> what about plugged in?
[04:08] <Burgundavia> is that common?
[04:08] <mkde> both are ok
[04:08] <mkde> yeah
[04:09] <Burgundavia> mains in almost unknown here
[04:09] <Burgundavia> I am working on an interface
[04:09] <mkde> oh right
[04:09] <mkde> just write it in en_CA and get it translated into en_GB and en_US
[04:09] <mkde> ;p
[04:10] <Burgundavia> right
[04:10] <Burgundavia> we need something working now
[04:11] <Burgundavia> and then we can worry about that
[04:11] <Burgundavia> is for the gnome-power project
[04:11] <mkde> right
[04:11] <mkde> i was just joking about the en variants, I think they are a waste of time
[04:11] <Burgundavia> hmm, debatable
[04:11] <Burgundavia> but yes, generally, they are weasel ways out
[04:11] <Burgundavia> you can look for common words
[04:12] <Burgundavia> do you have glade installed?
[04:12] <mkde> i'm on windows 2000
[04:12] <mkde> and a pretty unstable one at that
[04:12] <Burgundavia> ahhh
[04:13] <Burgundavia> I just assume that someone is one Ubuntu
[04:13] <Burgundavia> do you have access to an ubuntu system?
[04:13] <mkde> not right now
[04:13] <mkde> i'm at school atm
[04:13] <Burgundavia> ah
[04:14] <Burgundavia> I seee
[04:14] <Burgundavia> you are at work
[04:14] <Burgundavia> what are you taking?
[04:14] <mkde> its called the Bar Vocational Course
[04:14] <mkde> one year course you have to take in order to be a lawyer
[04:14] <mkde> over here
[04:15] <Burgundavia> ah
[04:15] <Burgundavia> glade2 has no undo
[04:16] <Burgundavia> very frustrating
[04:18] <mkde> i wonder why he chooses to use the command line instead of using gnome-system-tools on some occasions
[04:21] <froud> African Greetings
[04:21] <mkde> hi froud
[04:21] <froud> hi
[04:22] <froud> been a bit busy so have not been tuned. what's happening
[04:22] <mkde> froud, you just replied to my mail, 8 minutes before I sent it
[04:22] <mkde> that is seriously fast
[04:22] <froud> which mail was that
[04:22] <mkde> Re: poxml 
[04:23] <froud> Oh yes
[04:23] <froud> so what is new, who is doing what
[04:23] <froud> Burgundavia: did you get my message about the installation guide?
[04:23] <froud> what do you think you want to integrate it
[04:25] <Burgundavia> hadn't got to reading that yet
[04:25] <Burgundavia> will do so now and respond to you
[04:26] <mkde> froud, how come we use QT poxml scripts rather than python ones? is one better than the other?
[04:26] <froud> Ok, if you want just go ahead with the installation guide
[04:26] <froud> we found problems with the gnome stuff
[04:27] <froud> we got kde stuff working first
[04:27] <mkde> oh right
[04:27] <mkde> fair enough
[04:27] <froud> the end result is the same so no big issue
[04:27] <mkde> true
[04:28] <mkde> although if both work, it would seem logical to use the one with least dependencies. But if one is easier than the other, then fair enough
[04:28] <froud> wel we did not get the gnome ones to work
[04:28] <mkde> yeah
[04:28] <mkde> ok
[04:29] <froud> jeffsch: nice one on the style guide dude
[04:29] <Burgundavia> froud, looks good
[04:30] <froud> yeah, think you can do it
[04:30] <Burgundavia> probably
[04:30] <froud> I think it should be a new chapter at the end
[04:30] <Burgundavia> ok
[04:30] <froud> I made the first installation chapter the basic
[04:31] <mkde> froud, oh i wanted to ask you: would you check http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocteamStepByStepl18n to make sure I haven't got anything wrong
[04:31] <froud> stuff like IP config and partions I also placed in their own chanters
[04:31] <froud> sure
[04:31] <mkde> thx
[04:37] <mkde> i'm off now
[04:37] <mkde> back on this evening
[04:38] <mkde> bye all have fun
[04:38] <froud> ok the doc looks good
[04:38] <froud> just made a small change
[04:38] <mkde> froud, thanks
[04:38] <froud> there will be no branch of hoary
[04:38] <froud> of a release only a tag
[04:38] <mkde> right, yeah just put that in as a parenthesis cos enrico seemed keen
[04:38] <mkde> feel free to correct/expand on anything
[04:38] <froud> it's compound enouh
[04:39] <froud> sure
[04:39] <froud> thanks
[04:39] <froud> c ya later
[04:39] <mkde> bye
[04:42] <Burgundavia> froud, how do I do a if else
[04:42] <Burgundavia> ie if you run 98
[04:42] <Burgundavia> vs if you run NT
[04:43] <froud> Makes sense, perhaps a chapter with sect1 on each and intro para to cover the in then. Can also do this at the top of the doc
[04:43] <froud> remember to consider both gnome and kde here
[04:44] <froud> although install is mostly about GNU/Linux
[04:44] <Burgundavia> the netinstall doc is only how to boot the installer, so the rest holds
[04:45] <froud> yes, so perhaps just if then at the begin of the doc 
[04:45] <froud> what do you think
[04:46] <froud> please remember to ass yourself as an author and the author of the document
[04:46] <froud> add
[04:46] <froud> :-)
[04:46] <Burgundavia> yorp
[04:46] <froud> sorry
[05:31] <froud> going to lectures
[05:31] <froud> c ya later