=== lamont grumbles at fabbione for not closing bugs when he uploads === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === chuck_ [~chuck@198.62.158.205] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [02:29] yay ttp://ehlo.org/~kay/gitweb.pl?project=linux-2.6&action=log&view_back=86400 === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:zul] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ stable: kernel-debian--pre35--2.6.10 playground: kernel-debian--pre1--2.6.11.90 | There are no kernel bugs.. only broken hardware | http://ehlo.org/~kay/gitweb.pl?project=linux-2.6&action=log&view_back=86400 | http://pbx.mine.nu/artwork/036-lolwhat-linux-sarojin.gif [02:32] this git stuff is so confusing. [02:33] yeah it is.. [02:33] 400 messages left to read in that maildir :\ [02:36] gah? [02:37] the git mailing list is pretty high traffic, heh, explains why linux-kernel is so quiet these days [02:37] git changes? [02:37] no, the git devel list [02:38] ah.. === cc [~cc@byte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cc [~cc@byte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cc [~cc@byte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:19] morning === cc [~cc@freedesktop.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === byteee [~cc@freedesktop.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [12:22] 12rc3 is out :/ === osmandemirhan [~osman@fwgate.sabanciuniv.edu] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:fabbione] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ stable: kernel-debian--pre35--2.6.10 playground: kernel-debian--pre1--2.6.11.91 | There are no kernel bugs.. only broken hardware === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:fabbione] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeam | http://people.u.c/~lamont/Archives/kernel-team@ubuntu.com--2005/ stable: kernel-debian--pre35--2.6.10 playground: kernel-debian--pre1--2.6.11.91 | There are no kernel bugs.. only broken hardware | orig/diff/dsc at the usual place [02:08] fabbione: Do we keep broken builds on the buildds like Debian does sometimes? [02:08] glibc on i386 failed with a whacked error message that I don't understand [02:09] jbailey: yes.. we still need lamont for it [02:09] Cool. I won't try and reproduce it here, then. All I need is the config.log from the build. It's complaining that gcc-3.3 isn't happy. [02:11] i am this -><- close to explode [02:58] fabbione: how come? [02:58] because rc3 compiles half and a half [02:58] 23293728 things to do [02:58] and 0 time left [02:59] ah.. [02:59] jbailey: purge=always [03:00] ok.. now it builds everywhere [03:01] lamont: 2.6.11.91 .. needs hppa love :) [03:01] .90 got uploaded? [03:01] no [03:01] 2.6.12rc3 is out [03:01] ah, .91 is rc3? [03:01] i am updating the configs all over [03:02] but if i got them right, they should be ok for hppa already [03:02] cool [03:02] however there's a fair chance that the diffs don't apply [03:02] remember the usal trick of the diff.gz .dsc [03:02] and then replace debian/ ;) [03:02] orig can be gotten at the same place? [03:02] hmmm....that directed at me? :) [03:03] zul: usual place.. [03:03] people.u.c/~fabbione/ [03:03] getting them now [03:04] ok i am off while the buildds will finish to munge the kernel [03:04] cya later [03:05] i386 configs are already updated btw [03:07] fabbione: hppa love may have to happen after I get off the plane - much of today will be spent getting everything together to fly, etc, etc. [03:07] plane leaves in about 9.5 hours [03:07] lamont: i am not going to upload anyway [03:08] i had some kind of bad feeling upgrading the kernel on a hoary box today [03:08] so i want to restest everything.. that means after UDU [03:08] gah? [03:09] zul: it didn't complain about an old version of initrd.tools, when i explecitly declared a versioned depends [03:09] ah ok [03:09] that means leaving the system unbootable [03:09] that isnt good at all :) [03:09] right [03:09] i am off for a while [03:10] i might pass by later [03:10] fabbione: and besides, cvs.parisc-linux.org is down right now [03:12] lamont: Ah well, thanks. [03:13] Cool, got my travel insurrance. [03:13] Now I need power adaptors, clean clothing, a sticker for mako, and mapple syrop for infinity. [03:24] jbailey: just go to loblaws for mapple syrub :) [03:24] damn dyslexia === lamont pokes jbailey, points at /msg [03:30] heh you said poke [03:39] zul: Yup, and mec for the power adaptors. [03:40] zul: I just reconfirmed my flights, meals, etc. [04:04] amd64 configs updated === cc [~cc@freedesktop.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:06] Interesting, when I ran time on my test glibc build, the user time is greater than the real time. =) [05:07] eeheh [05:07] I'm guess it's not SMP friendly. =) [05:10] http://www.plug-pray.org/ [05:10] ahahaha [05:12] jbailey: what is a simple way to debug the libc6 resolver? [05:12] gcc-3.3 [!ia64 !powerpc !amd64] | gcc-3.4 [!ia64] , gcc-3.4 (>= 3.4.3-6ubuntu1) [ia64] , [05:13] i was trying to spot the ipv6 problem [05:13] but the changes are way more complicated than expected [05:13] fabbione: Honestly, printf. [05:13] hmmm [05:13] not even that RESDEBUG ? [05:13] Because you can't build glibc without optimisation, it's usually less grief to do incremental compiles than walk it though gdb. [05:14] Is that build-dep line enough to make sure that amd64 has gcc-3.4 on the system? [05:14] jbailey: hmmmmm [05:14] fabbione: It depends if RESDEBUG is actually granular enough for you. I don't think it gives you line numbers and such. [05:15] gcc-3.3 [i386, sparc,hppa] , gcc-3.4 [amd64] , gcc-3.4 (>= 3.4.3-6ubuntu1) [ia64] , [05:15] 'kay, better to make it clear I guess. [05:15] i hate triple negations :) [05:20] No commas between the arch's it looks like. [05:23] Well, off she goes. [05:25] jbailey: how hard can it be to get a crosscompiler to build sparc on amd64? [05:25] only to build the kernel [05:25] so something extremely monolitich and static [05:28] later... [05:28] i forgot i need to go shopping [05:35] fabbione: Cross compilers are usually pretty easy now. There's several scripts out there that all you need to do is put a few pieces in the right palce and hit 'go' [05:35] I think the package you want is called 'toolcahin-source' [05:43] toolchain-source rarely works. :\ [05:44] i've tried several times to build x86->{hppa,mips} compilers with it, and failed, recently === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:27] I HATE PPC [06:27] where is the ppc porter? [06:27] T-Bone?? [06:27] T-None: weren't you supposed to do ppc work? === T-None is now known as T-Bone [06:44] fabbione: i beg your pardon? [06:45] you said you wanted to hack around on ppc... [06:45] right? [06:45] since i hate ppc.. from deep inside myself... [06:45] i said i could [06:45] isn't the right time to start? [06:45] why? [06:46] because it's the only troublemaker arch with FTBFS one on top of eachoterh [06:46] eachoterh? [06:47] fabbione: i *thought* that ppc was *officialy* supported? [06:47] eachother [06:47] fabbione: which means people are *paid* to get it to work. Am I wrong? [06:48] T-Bone: so? it still needs love.. it's not like the kernel builds automatically because the arch is *supported* [06:48] yes you are wrong :) [06:48] it still a community kernel === T-Bone is having hard time matching "support" and "noone paid for it" :P [06:49] fabbione: you're good at reading webpage, right? [06:49] fabbione: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeamTasks [06:50] (which isn't up to date since i've droped ia64, but that's another story) [06:51] that's probably because you are french as svenl [06:51] and i thought you were both 2 patriots [06:51] fabbione: i'm quite certain that if you take it on that tone, i'll show you my biggest finger... [06:52] ahhah [06:52] that' [06:52] that'd be cool :) [06:52] you finger perv :P [06:54] anywayz, i might give it a shot, but probably not before this week end. I've got a couple of urgent things to deal with before [06:54] brain cancer? [06:54] hm, there's 2.6.12rc3 [06:54] are you losing your penis? [06:54] no. I don't have a brain [06:54] dilinger: yeah.. 2.6.11.91.. see /T [06:54] :) [06:54] and i'm hung like a horse, no problem that side either [06:55] T-Bone: a minature horse? [06:55] dilinger: that's why i am pissed.. each release PPC is a FTBFSorama [06:55] zul: even a miniature one would do. If you've never seen a horse's prick, you should take a look. It usually sizes in meters [06:55] :P [06:56] T-Bone: there is a horsefly as well ;) [06:56] lol [06:56] you idiot ;) [06:57] which makes you very very very small..:) [06:57] besides its not the size its the girth [06:58] zul: when you've got both, you're the ladies' king. So far, I'm not very worried about that topic. Besides, I tend to think that it's usually those who talk about it who have a problem with it, neh, fabbione ? :) [06:58] BWAHAHAHA [06:59] ouch...burn.. [06:59] i didn't talk about the size of your penis :) [07:00] lol [07:00] that's the worse excuse I've ever heard ;) [07:00] as you can re-read above... i have been pretty silent [07:00] you nonetheless started it [07:01] Freud would consider that as a *big clue* [07:01] ;) [07:01] (but he was German. That doesn't help ;) === T-Bone ducks! [07:02] uh...he was austrian [07:02] true. I might americanize myself, thinking it's the same ;o) === T-Bone ducks even quicker [07:03] no.. i didn't start the topic of size [07:03] READ AGAIN [07:03] you started the dick-topic [07:03] only that you were losing it, together with your brain cancer... [07:03] you said i was losing something dear to me, i replied telling that given how it's hung, there was no risk that i might loose it, and then zul hopped on the size topic [07:04] so as you can see [07:04] that was your first mistake: i can't have a brain cancer: i don't have a fuckin brain :) [07:04] i didn't start the size topic [07:05] you initiated the whole topic, as usual when the discussion goes between the legs. Might be your Italian big-mouth blood waking up ;) [07:05] T-Bone: be careful.. the day that your penis will fall down (due to its huge size) might jump back straight in your butt === T-Bone is now known as T-Freud [07:06] hmm, I see another fabbione-sex-fantasy emerging [07:07] this guy is really wicked. He needs a cure ;) [07:07] that happens when you spend too much time with french guys around [07:07] compulsory xenophobia [07:07] severe case [07:09] Nurse, please strap him carefully, we're taking him to the nearest psychiatric hospital. It's an emergency :P [07:11] wont someone please think of the chidren === T-Freud is now known as T-Bone [07:11] zul: you mean *his*? Damn. If he multiplies, Earth is in danger ;o) [07:12] i got involved now im uninvolving myself :) [07:12] lol [07:13] you've got a paper asshole (newly learnt swear, thx jbailey ;) [07:13] mmm....girl guide cookies [07:32] goodie.. [07:32] we have debs for 2.6.12rc3 [07:33] on all arches except hppa [07:33] lol [07:33] with unionfs for ppc? [07:33] cya lamont-away [07:34] zul: that's a gcc problem [07:34] ah [07:35] jbailey: did you upload a new version libc6 already??? === fabbione stops the current build [07:44] fabbione: ubuntu3 is there === lamont-away really gets out the door to run errands [07:48] fabbione: Yeah sorry. Had to fix amd64 and i386 build fuckage. [07:51] lamont-away: cya at UDU :) [07:51] jbailey: ENOPROBLEM :) [07:51] jbailey: everything that was builded up till now is ccached [07:51] no big loss [07:51] i added an nfs ccache export of 20GB [07:52] if it gets full.. we will enlarge it :) [07:55] 20G 2.9G 16G 16% /opt/sparcbuildd/chroots/jb-breezy/home/sparcbuildd/.ccache [07:55] we already have 3GB of cache.. all good.. all good :) [07:56] Ooo, I wonder if stuff from jb-breezy shouldn't be cached... [07:56] I was hoping between gcc-3.3 and 3.4... [07:56] why not? [07:56] jbailey: ccache is very clever [07:56] don't worry.. [07:56] Is it? a'ight. [07:56] it recognizes a lot of things [07:57] to be sure that the cache is valid or not [07:59] Must call cab in 10 minutes to get to airport. Need anything before I go? =) [07:59] ill be sure not to call customs on you :) [08:01] jbailey: have fun.. cya in Sydney [08:01] bastards! :) [08:01] see you, jeff === svenl_ [~luther@AStrasbourg-251-1-61-142.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === T-Bone gets to answer Mithrandir ;) === T-Bone runs some errands, hopes lamont-away will hop by before leaving for UDU [08:28] T-Bone: doubt... he is already on the way there [08:28] ah [08:29] shite [08:29] i guess it will be just be me, kyle, and shit for brains holding down the fort while everyone is on the airplane ;) [08:30] and dilinger :) [08:30] who's shit? 8) [08:30] hehe...i think you just answered you own qestion [08:30] :) === T-Bone is now known as T-Shit [08:30] like that? :) [08:31] zul: i think if you look to your left, you might see my finger through the window 8) [08:31] well if i look to the left all i see is walls [08:32] try the other left ;) [08:32] still a wall :) [08:32] you're living in a bunker or what? ;) [08:32] no...its an office [08:33] zul: heh, i'll be on an airplane too [08:33] you are going to udu as well? [08:33] yep [08:33] bastard [08:34] must be nice to jetset around the world. [08:34] kylem: not for 22 hours of flight in a raw [08:34] fabbione, meh. i'm still jealous. [08:35] il go to the next one [08:35] kylem: i am so NOT looking forward to travel 22 hours (pure flight time) [08:35] same here [08:35] fabbione, take a sleeping pill, heh. [08:35] simply because if i can't get an emergency exit seat, i am doomed [08:35] same here [08:35] nah.. i can sleep like a baby [08:36] that's not the issue [08:36] fabbione: i can't believe we share so many common points ;) [08:36] it's my size the problem [08:36] oh? [08:36] T-Shit: i am still better than you.. don't try an escalation [08:36] yea, i have no problems sleeping on a plane.. just bugs the fuck out of my ears if i sleep through the descent [08:36] vertical or horizontal? [08:36] fabbione: lol [08:36] or drink alot of alcohol [08:36] last time i was in the US [08:36] kylem: perimetric ;) [08:36] i managed to fall asleep before take off === T-Shit ducks [08:37] heh. [08:37] and they had to wake me up at the arrival [08:37] whatever. [08:37] i have a tendency to puke on flight stewardess when i fly [08:37] fabbione: lucky bee. A plane is probably the only place i can't sleep [08:37] fabbione: heh, that's handy [08:37] dilinger: oh yeah [08:37] zul: does that help dating them? ;) [08:37] T-Shit: i can sleep everywhere :) 4 years of AirForce did help :) [08:37] zul: haha, how many times have you done that? [08:38] under the desk.. on an office chair [08:38] T-Shit: not really no [08:38] between 2 chairs [08:38] fabbione: lol. I can sleep everwhere *except* in planes (really) [08:38] dilinger: once when i was a kid [08:38] oh, ok [08:38] fabbione: i can even sleep eyes open ;) [08:38] there... [08:38] ppc is updated.. what is missing now... [08:38] dilinger: airitalia flying from nariobi to rome i had a bit of a flu [08:38] ah [08:38] hppa! [08:38] :P [08:38] so it's not like you get on the plane, hand the stewardess a smock, and tell her to wear it until you get off the flight :) === T-Shit cheated teachers that way. They thought I was following the lesson, while i was having a nice nap ;) [08:39] hehe...maybe :) [08:39] fabbione, what needs to be done? [08:39] the best thing is to tell them that you are scared of flying [08:40] tell them you need a baby si(s)t(t)er ;) [08:40] kylem: for .11.91 aka 12rc3, i still need to reenable the qla2xxx stuff and a bunch of other drivers... [08:40] fabbione, i mean for hppa :) [08:40] and allign the udebs [08:40] kylem: config updates [08:40] ah. [08:40] kylem: and see if the patches we have for hppa are ok [08:41] kylem: hppa builds fine. fabbione is just trying to make a fuss out of nothing ;) [08:41] since yesterday they have been updated on top of 12rc2 [08:41] T-Shit: wanna bet that it won't build if you don't update the config? [08:41] fabbione: of course. But nothing is broken [08:41] i have never said it was [08:42] read above you little tiny piece of cow-choaked meat [08:42] fabbione: you're so full of me ;) === kylem should leave packaging stuff to someone else, he just doesn't care anymore.... too much fun hacking drivers. [08:42] BWAHAHAHA!! [08:42] T-Shit: that's just mean you are shit... [08:42] kylem: hehehe, you stepped into the Dark Side, Welcome, young padawan ;)) [08:42] this is why debian needs to be closer to ubuntu, so i can just steal your hppa work and upload it. [08:42] kylem: yeah.. i have started my way trough real kernel hacking [08:42] fabbione: and that just means you ack what you are ;o)) [08:43] no.. i ack what you are.. even if inside me [08:43] lol [08:43] filthy lies. Face the truth [08:44] makes me think, I *need* to book planes for OLS [08:45] i guess i'll come for the OLS week only, heh [08:45] suck...i wont be going to ols but ill be in the city [08:45] heehee, i got one of the random kernel summit invites. (with only one entry in maintainers... :) [08:45] who...we can have a party at my house [08:45] thank you LASI Harmony... [08:46] kylem: lol. I guess that's why I should claim I'm maintaining some of the shit i wrote ;) [08:46] bbl...need to make a house call [08:47] T-Shit, any idea when you're going to fly in/out? i asked ajh, but there's no plans for camping yet. [08:47] kylem: i need to check with grant for the administrativia, but my bet is that if there's no camp plans, i'll stick to Grant's feet [08:48] T-Shit, k. just let me know when to bring the liquor. ;-) [08:48] (and where:) [08:48] seems pretty poorly organized from HP-side, this year [08:48] hehe ;) [08:48] T-Shit, taggart's not going, is he? [08:48] dunno. Seems not, else we would have a much better setup already [08:48] i wonder if bdale is? [08:48] i think so [08:48] need to ask him [08:49] but iirc last time we talked he told me he would [08:49] well i am off.... [08:49] cool [08:50] weekend starts early this week [08:50] kylem: do you know how long ggg will be off? [08:50] T-Shit, he only said "a couple days" [08:50] fabbione: you little bastard [08:50] ok [08:50] fabbione, take care [08:50] T-Shit, i'm sure he will log on from wireless somehow as usual :) [08:50] i might pass by tomorrow [08:50] kylem: most likely ;) [08:51] fabbione: don't bother. Really ;) === Mithrandir found http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/sigmil/talks/OpenVPN/ the other day. [08:51] that's kinda coo [08:51] +l [08:51] Mithrandir: somebody was packaging it afaik [08:51] Mithrandir: woohoo, indeed! :) === T-Shit bookmarks [08:52] fabbione: just openvpn ? It's already packaged. The rest of it is more of a receipe. [08:52] ah ok [08:53] this is basically "how to abuse somebody else's wlan connection without bothering them or you too much" === T-Shit wanders off for a while, bbl [08:53] ahah === T-Shit is now known as T-Gone === lamont-away finishes packing, heads for the airport. === guioum [~guioum@dsl-207-112-56-187.tor.primus.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:52] later.. === T-Gone is now known as T-None