[02:29] <zul> yay ttp://ehlo.org/~kay/gitweb.pl?project=linux-2.6&action=log&view_back=86400
[02:32] <kylem> this git stuff is so confusing.
[02:33] <zul> yeah it is..
[02:33] <kylem> 400 messages left to read in that maildir :\
[02:36] <zul> gah?
[02:37] <kylem> the git mailing list is pretty high traffic, heh, explains why linux-kernel is so quiet these days
[02:37] <zul> git changes?
[02:37] <kylem> no, the git devel list
[02:38] <zul> ah..
[05:19] <fabbione> morning
[12:22] <fabbione> 12rc3 is out :/
[02:08] <jbailey> fabbione: Do we keep broken builds on the buildds like Debian does sometimes?
[02:08] <jbailey> glibc on i386 failed with a whacked error message that I don't understand
[02:09] <fabbione> jbailey: yes.. we still need lamont for it
[02:09] <jbailey> Cool.  I won't try and reproduce it here, then.  All I need is the config.log from the build.  It's complaining that gcc-3.3 isn't happy.
[02:11] <fabbione> i am this -><- close to explode
[02:58] <zul> fabbione: how come?
[02:58] <fabbione> because rc3 compiles half and a half
[02:58] <fabbione> 23293728 things to do
[02:58] <fabbione> and 0 time left
[02:59] <zul> ah..
[02:59] <lamont> jbailey: purge=always
[03:00] <fabbione> ok.. now it builds everywhere
[03:01] <fabbione> lamont: 2.6.11.91 .. needs hppa love :)
[03:01] <lamont> .90 got uploaded?
[03:01] <fabbione> no
[03:01] <fabbione> 2.6.12rc3 is out
[03:01] <lamont> ah, .91 is rc3?
[03:01] <fabbione> i am updating the configs all over
[03:02] <fabbione> but if i got them right, they should be ok for hppa already
[03:02] <lamont> cool
[03:02] <lamont> however there's a fair chance that the diffs don't apply
[03:02] <fabbione> remember the usal trick of the diff.gz .dsc
[03:02] <fabbione> and then replace debian/ ;)
[03:02] <zul> orig can be gotten at the same place?
[03:02] <zul> hmmm....that directed at me? :)
[03:03] <fabbione> zul: usual place..
[03:03] <fabbione> people.u.c/~fabbione/
[03:03] <zul> getting them now
[03:04] <fabbione> ok i am off while the buildds will finish to munge the kernel
[03:04] <fabbione> cya later
[03:05] <fabbione> i386 configs are already updated btw
[03:07] <lamont> fabbione: hppa love may have to happen after I get off the plane - much of today will be spent getting everything together to fly, etc, etc.
[03:07] <lamont> plane leaves in about 9.5 hours
[03:07] <fabbione> lamont: i am not going to upload anyway
[03:08] <fabbione> i had some kind of bad feeling upgrading the kernel on a hoary box today
[03:08] <fabbione> so i want to restest everything.. that means after UDU
[03:08] <zul> gah?
[03:09] <fabbione> zul: it didn't complain about an old version of initrd.tools, when i explecitly declared a versioned depends
[03:09] <zul> ah ok
[03:09] <fabbione> that means leaving the system unbootable
[03:09] <zul> that isnt good at all :)
[03:09] <fabbione> right
[03:09] <fabbione> i am off for a while
[03:10] <fabbione> i might pass by later
[03:10] <lamont> fabbione: and besides, cvs.parisc-linux.org is down right now
[03:12] <jbailey> lamont: Ah well, thanks.
[03:13] <jbailey> Cool, got my travel insurrance.
[03:13] <jbailey> Now I need power adaptors, clean clothing, a sticker for mako, and mapple syrop for infinity.
[03:24] <zul> jbailey: just go to loblaws for mapple syrub :)
[03:24] <zul> damn dyslexia
[03:30] <zul> heh you said poke
[03:39] <jbailey> zul: Yup, and mec for the power adaptors.
[03:40] <jbailey> zul: I just reconfirmed my flights, meals, etc.
[04:04] <fabbione> amd64 configs updated
[05:06] <jbailey> Interesting, when I ran time on my test glibc build, the user time is greater than the real time. =)
[05:07] <fabbione> eeheh
[05:07] <jbailey> I'm guess it's not SMP friendly. =)
[05:10] <fabbione> http://www.plug-pray.org/
[05:10] <fabbione> ahahaha
[05:12] <fabbione> jbailey: what is a simple way to debug the libc6 resolver?
[05:12] <jbailey> gcc-3.3 [!ia64 !powerpc !amd64]  | gcc-3.4 [!ia64] , gcc-3.4 (>= 3.4.3-6ubuntu1) [ia64] ,
[05:13] <fabbione> i was trying to spot the ipv6 problem
[05:13] <fabbione> but the changes are way more complicated than expected
[05:13] <jbailey> fabbione: Honestly, printf.
[05:13] <fabbione> hmmm
[05:13] <fabbione> not even that RESDEBUG ?
[05:13] <jbailey> Because you can't build glibc without optimisation, it's usually less grief to do incremental compiles than walk it though gdb.
[05:14] <jbailey> Is that build-dep line enough to make sure that amd64 has gcc-3.4 on the system?
[05:14] <fabbione> jbailey: hmmmmm
[05:14] <jbailey> fabbione: It depends if RESDEBUG is actually granular enough for you.  I don't think it gives you line numbers and such.
[05:15] <fabbione> gcc-3.3 [i386, sparc,hppa] , gcc-3.4 [amd64] , gcc-3.4 (>= 3.4.3-6ubuntu1) [ia64] ,
[05:15] <jbailey> 'kay, better to make it clear I guess.
[05:15] <fabbione> i hate triple negations :)
[05:20] <jbailey> No commas between the arch's it looks like.
[05:23] <jbailey> Well, off she goes.
[05:25] <fabbione> jbailey: how hard can it be to get a crosscompiler to build sparc on amd64?
[05:25] <fabbione> only to build the kernel
[05:25] <fabbione> so something extremely monolitich and static
[05:28] <fabbione> later...
[05:28] <fabbione> i forgot i need to go shopping
[05:35] <jbailey> fabbione: Cross compilers are usually pretty easy now.  There's several scripts out there that all you need to do is put a few pieces in the right palce and hit 'go'
[05:35] <jbailey> I think the package you want is called 'toolcahin-source'
[05:43] <kylem> toolchain-source rarely works. :\
[05:44] <kylem> i've tried several times to build x86->{hppa,mips} compilers with it, and failed, recently
[06:27] <fabbione> I HATE PPC
[06:27] <fabbione> where is the ppc porter?
[06:27] <fabbione> T-Bone??
[06:27] <fabbione> T-None: weren't you supposed to do ppc work?
[06:44] <T-Bone> fabbione: i beg your pardon?
[06:45] <fabbione> you said you wanted to hack around on ppc...
[06:45] <fabbione> right?
[06:45] <fabbione> since i hate ppc.. from deep inside myself...
[06:45] <T-Bone> i said i could
[06:45] <fabbione> isn't the right time to start?
[06:45] <T-Bone> why?
[06:46] <fabbione> because it's the only troublemaker arch with FTBFS one on top of eachoterh
[06:46] <T-Bone> eachoterh?
[06:47] <T-Bone> fabbione: i *thought* that ppc was *officialy* supported?
[06:47] <fabbione> eachother
[06:47] <T-Bone> fabbione: which means people are *paid* to get it to work. Am I wrong?
[06:48] <fabbione> T-Bone: so? it still needs love.. it's not like the kernel builds automatically because the arch is *supported*
[06:48] <fabbione> yes you are wrong :)
[06:48] <fabbione> it still a community kernel
[06:49] <T-Bone> fabbione: you're good at reading webpage, right?
[06:49] <T-Bone> fabbione: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelTeamTasks
[06:50] <T-Bone> (which isn't up to date since i've droped ia64, but that's another story)
[06:51] <fabbione> that's probably because you are french as svenl 
[06:51] <fabbione> and i thought you were both 2 patriots
[06:51] <T-Bone> fabbione: i'm quite certain that if you take it on that tone, i'll show you my biggest finger...
[06:52] <fabbione> ahhah
[06:52] <fabbione> that'
[06:52] <fabbione> that'd be cool :)
[06:52] <T-Bone> you finger perv :P
[06:54] <T-Bone> anywayz, i might give it a shot, but probably not before this week end. I've got a couple of urgent things to deal with before
[06:54] <fabbione> brain cancer?
[06:54] <dilinger> hm, there's 2.6.12rc3
[06:54] <fabbione> are you losing your penis?
[06:54] <T-Bone> no. I don't have a brain
[06:54] <fabbione> dilinger: yeah.. 2.6.11.91.. see /T
[06:54] <fabbione> :)
[06:54] <T-Bone> and i'm hung like a horse, no problem that side either
[06:55] <zul> T-Bone: a minature horse?
[06:55] <fabbione> dilinger: that's why i am pissed.. each release PPC is a FTBFSorama
[06:55] <T-Bone> zul: even a miniature one would do. If you've never seen a horse's prick, you should take a look. It usually sizes in meters
[06:55] <T-Bone> :P
[06:56] <zul> T-Bone: there is a horsefly as well ;)
[06:56] <T-Bone> lol
[06:56] <T-Bone> you idiot ;)
[06:57] <zul> which makes you very very very small..:)
[06:57] <zul> besides its not the size its the girth
[06:58] <T-Bone> zul: when you've got both, you're the ladies' king. So far, I'm not very worried about that topic. Besides, I tend to think that it's usually those who talk about it who have a problem with it, neh, fabbione ? :)
[06:58] <T-Bone> BWAHAHAHA
[06:59] <zul> ouch...burn..
[06:59] <fabbione> i didn't talk about the size of your penis :)
[07:00] <T-Bone> lol
[07:00] <T-Bone> that's the worse excuse I've ever heard ;)
[07:00] <fabbione> as you can re-read above... i have been pretty silent
[07:00] <T-Bone> you nonetheless started it
[07:01] <T-Bone> Freud would consider that as a *big clue*
[07:01] <T-Bone> ;)
[07:01] <T-Bone> (but he was German. That doesn't help ;)
[07:02] <zul> uh...he was austrian
[07:02] <T-Bone> true. I might americanize myself, thinking it's the same ;o)
[07:03] <fabbione> no.. i didn't start the topic of size
[07:03] <fabbione> READ AGAIN
[07:03] <T-Bone> you started the dick-topic
[07:03] <fabbione> only that you were losing it, together with your brain cancer...
[07:03] <T-Bone> you said i was losing something dear to me, i replied telling that given how it's hung, there was no risk that i might loose it, and then zul hopped on the size topic
[07:04] <fabbione> so as you can see
[07:04] <T-Bone> that was your first mistake: i can't have a brain cancer: i don't have a fuckin brain :)
[07:04] <fabbione> i didn't start the size topic
[07:05] <T-Bone> you initiated the whole topic, as usual when the discussion goes between the legs. Might be your Italian big-mouth blood waking up ;)
[07:05] <fabbione> T-Bone: be careful.. the day that your penis will fall down (due to its huge size) might jump back straight in your butt
[07:06] <T-Freud> hmm, I see another fabbione-sex-fantasy emerging
[07:07] <T-Freud> this guy is really wicked. He needs a cure ;)
[07:07] <fabbione> that happens when you spend too much time with french guys around
[07:07] <T-Freud> compulsory xenophobia
[07:07] <T-Freud> severe case
[07:09] <T-Freud> Nurse, please strap him carefully, we're taking him to the nearest psychiatric hospital. It's an emergency :P
[07:11] <zul> wont someone please think of the chidren
[07:11] <T-Bone> zul: you mean *his*? Damn. If he multiplies, Earth is in danger ;o)
[07:12] <zul> i got involved now im uninvolving myself :)
[07:12] <T-Bone> lol
[07:13] <T-Bone> you've got a paper asshole (newly learnt swear, thx jbailey ;)
[07:13] <zul> mmm....girl guide cookies
[07:32] <fabbione> goodie..
[07:32] <fabbione> we have debs for 2.6.12rc3
[07:33] <fabbione> on all arches except hppa
[07:33] <T-Bone> lol
[07:33] <zul> with unionfs for ppc?
[07:33] <fabbione> cya lamont-away 
[07:34] <fabbione> zul: that's a gcc problem
[07:34] <zul> ah
[07:35] <fabbione> jbailey: did you upload a new version libc6 already???
[07:44] <lamont-away> fabbione: ubuntu3 is there
[07:48] <jbailey> fabbione: Yeah sorry.  Had to fix amd64 and i386 build fuckage.
[07:51] <fabbione> lamont-away: cya at UDU :)
[07:51] <fabbione> jbailey: ENOPROBLEM :)
[07:51] <fabbione> jbailey: everything that was builded up till now is ccached
[07:51] <fabbione> no big loss
[07:51] <fabbione> i added an nfs ccache export of 20GB
[07:52] <fabbione> if it gets full.. we will enlarge it :)
[07:55] <fabbione>                        20G  2.9G   16G  16% /opt/sparcbuildd/chroots/jb-breezy/home/sparcbuildd/.ccache
[07:55] <fabbione> we already have 3GB of cache.. all good.. all good :)
[07:56] <jbailey> Ooo, I wonder if stuff from jb-breezy shouldn't be cached... 
[07:56] <jbailey> I was hoping between gcc-3.3 and 3.4...
[07:56] <fabbione> why not?
[07:56] <fabbione> jbailey: ccache is very clever
[07:56] <fabbione> don't worry..
[07:56] <jbailey> Is it?  a'ight.
[07:56] <fabbione> it recognizes a lot of things
[07:57] <fabbione> to be sure that the cache is valid or not
[07:59] <jbailey> Must call cab in 10 minutes to get to airport.  Need anything before I go? =)
[07:59] <zul> ill be sure not to call customs on you :)
[08:01] <fabbione> jbailey: have fun.. cya in Sydney
[08:01] <zul> bastards! :)
[08:01] <Mithrandir> see you, jeff
[08:28] <fabbione> T-Bone: doubt... he is already on the way there
[08:28] <T-Bone> ah
[08:29] <T-Bone> shite
[08:29] <zul> i guess it will be just be me, kyle, and shit for brains holding down the fort while everyone is on the airplane ;)
[08:30] <zul> and dilinger :)
[08:30] <T-Bone> who's shit? 8)
[08:30] <zul> hehe...i think you just answered you own qestion
[08:30] <kylem> :)
[08:30] <T-Shit> like that? :)
[08:31] <T-Shit> zul: i think if you look to your left, you might see my finger through the window 8)
[08:31] <zul> well if i look to the left all i see is walls 
[08:32] <T-Shit> try the other left ;)
[08:32] <zul> still a wall :)
[08:32] <T-Shit> you're living in a bunker or what? ;)
[08:32] <zul> no...its an office
[08:33] <dilinger> zul: heh, i'll be on an airplane too
[08:33] <zul> you are going to udu as well?
[08:33] <dilinger> yep
[08:33] <zul> bastard
[08:34] <kylem> must be nice to jetset around the world.
[08:34] <fabbione> kylem: not for 22 hours of flight in a raw
[08:34] <kylem> fabbione, meh. i'm still jealous.
[08:35] <zul> il go to the next one
[08:35] <fabbione> kylem: i am so NOT looking forward to travel 22 hours (pure flight time)
[08:35] <T-Shit> same here
[08:35] <kylem> fabbione, take a sleeping pill, heh.
[08:35] <fabbione> simply because if i can't get an emergency exit seat, i am doomed
[08:35] <T-Shit> same here
[08:35] <fabbione> nah.. i can sleep like a baby
[08:36] <fabbione> that's not the issue
[08:36] <T-Shit> fabbione: i can't believe we share so many common points ;)
[08:36] <fabbione> it's my size the problem
[08:36] <kylem> oh?
[08:36] <fabbione> T-Shit: i am still better than you.. don't try an escalation
[08:36] <dilinger> yea, i have no problems sleeping on a plane.. just bugs the fuck out of my ears if i sleep through the descent
[08:36] <kylem> vertical or horizontal?
[08:36] <T-Shit> fabbione: lol
[08:36] <zul> or drink alot of alcohol
[08:36] <fabbione> last time i was in the US
[08:36] <T-Shit> kylem: perimetric ;)
[08:36] <fabbione> i managed to fall asleep before take off
[08:37] <kylem> heh.
[08:37] <fabbione> and they had to wake me up at the arrival
[08:37] <kylem> whatever.
[08:37] <zul> i have a tendency to puke on flight stewardess when i fly
[08:37] <T-Shit> fabbione: lucky bee. A plane is probably the only place i can't sleep
[08:37] <dilinger> fabbione: heh, that's handy
[08:37] <fabbione> dilinger: oh yeah
[08:37] <T-Shit> zul: does that help dating them? ;)
[08:37] <fabbione> T-Shit: i can sleep everywhere :) 4 years of AirForce did help :)
[08:37] <dilinger> zul: haha, how many times have you done that?
[08:38] <fabbione> under the desk.. on an office chair
[08:38] <zul> T-Shit: not really no
[08:38] <fabbione> between 2 chairs
[08:38] <T-Shit> fabbione: lol. I can sleep everwhere *except* in planes (really)
[08:38] <zul> dilinger: once when i was a kid
[08:38] <dilinger> oh, ok
[08:38] <T-Shit> fabbione: i can even sleep eyes open ;)
[08:38] <fabbione> there...
[08:38] <fabbione> ppc is updated.. what is missing now...
[08:38] <zul> dilinger: airitalia flying from nariobi to rome i had a bit of a flu
[08:38] <fabbione> ah
[08:38] <fabbione> hppa!
[08:38] <fabbione> :P
[08:38] <dilinger> so it's not like you get on the plane, hand the stewardess a smock, and tell her to wear it until you get off the flight :)
[08:39] <zul> hehe...maybe :)
[08:39] <kylem> fabbione, what needs to be done?
[08:39] <fabbione> the best thing is to tell them that you are scared of flying
[08:40] <T-Shit> tell them you need a baby si(s)t(t)er ;)
[08:40] <fabbione> kylem: for .11.91 aka 12rc3, i still need to reenable the qla2xxx stuff and a bunch of other drivers...
[08:40] <kylem> fabbione, i mean for hppa :)
[08:40] <fabbione> and allign the udebs
[08:40] <fabbione> kylem: config updates
[08:40] <kylem> ah.
[08:40] <fabbione> kylem: and see if the patches we have for hppa are ok
[08:41] <T-Shit> kylem: hppa builds fine. fabbione is just trying to make a fuss out of nothing ;)
[08:41] <fabbione> since yesterday they have been updated on top of 12rc2
[08:41] <fabbione> T-Shit: wanna bet that it won't build if you don't update the config?
[08:41] <T-Shit> fabbione: of course. But nothing is broken
[08:41] <fabbione> i have never said it was
[08:42] <fabbione> read above you little tiny piece of cow-choaked meat
[08:42] <T-Shit> fabbione: you're so full of me ;)
[08:42] <T-Shit> BWAHAHAHA!!
[08:42] <fabbione> T-Shit: that's just mean you are shit...
[08:42] <T-Shit> kylem: hehehe, you stepped into the Dark Side, Welcome, young padawan ;))
[08:42] <kylem> this is why debian needs to be closer to ubuntu, so i can just steal your hppa work and upload it.
[08:42] <fabbione> kylem: yeah.. i have started my way trough real kernel hacking
[08:42] <T-Shit> fabbione: and that just means you ack what you are ;o))
[08:43] <fabbione> no.. i ack what you are.. even if inside me
[08:43] <T-Shit> lol
[08:43] <T-Shit> filthy lies. Face the truth
[08:44] <T-Shit> makes me think, I *need* to book planes for OLS
[08:45] <T-Shit> i guess i'll come for the OLS week only, heh
[08:45] <zul> suck...i wont be going to ols but ill be in the city
[08:45] <kylem> heehee, i got one of the random kernel summit invites. (with only one entry in maintainers... :)
[08:45] <zul> who...we can have a party at my house
[08:45] <kylem> thank you LASI Harmony...
[08:46] <T-Shit> kylem: lol. I guess that's why I should claim I'm maintaining some of the shit i wrote ;)
[08:46] <zul> bbl...need to make a house call
[08:47] <kylem> T-Shit, any idea when you're going to fly in/out? i asked ajh, but there's no plans for camping yet.
[08:47] <T-Shit> kylem: i need to check with grant for the administrativia, but my bet is that if there's no camp plans, i'll stick to Grant's feet
[08:48] <kylem> T-Shit, k. just let me know when to bring the liquor. ;-)
[08:48] <kylem> (and where:)
[08:48] <T-Shit> seems pretty poorly organized from HP-side, this year
[08:48] <T-Shit> hehe ;)
[08:48] <kylem> T-Shit, taggart's not going, is he?
[08:48] <T-Shit> dunno. Seems not, else we would have a much better setup already
[08:48] <kylem> i wonder if bdale is?
[08:48] <T-Shit> i think so
[08:48] <T-Shit> need to ask him
[08:49] <T-Shit> but iirc last time we talked he told me he would
[08:49] <fabbione> well i am off....
[08:49] <kylem> cool
[08:50] <fabbione> weekend starts early this week
[08:50] <T-Shit> kylem: do you know how long ggg will be off?
[08:50] <kylem> T-Shit, he only said "a couple days"
[08:50] <T-Shit> fabbione: you little bastard
[08:50] <T-Shit> ok
[08:50] <kylem> fabbione, take care
[08:50] <kylem> T-Shit, i'm sure he will log on from wireless somehow as usual :)
[08:50] <fabbione> i might pass by tomorrow
[08:50] <T-Shit> kylem: most likely ;)
[08:51] <T-Shit> fabbione: don't bother. Really ;)
[08:51] <Mithrandir> that's kinda coo
[08:51] <Mithrandir> +l
[08:51] <fabbione> Mithrandir: somebody was packaging it afaik
[08:51] <T-Shit> Mithrandir: woohoo, indeed! :)
[08:52] <Mithrandir> fabbione: just openvpn ?  It's already packaged.  The rest of it is more of a receipe.
[08:52] <fabbione> ah ok
[08:53] <Mithrandir> this is basically "how to abuse somebody else's wlan connection without bothering them or you too much"
[08:53] <fabbione> ahah
[10:52] <zul> later..