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Marko01Hi guys sorry to bug. Kind of new and really don't want to use the Word Microsoft in this chat but here it goes. Is there a way to have Identities setup in Evolution much the same as Outlook Express, where email from two seperate accounts does not go in the same Inbox.12:00
Gugadcraven, then what after uninstalling nvidia-common-kernel?12:00
thr1cenad, nevermind, got her :)12:00
thr1cethese codecs should work in totem too right ?12:00
dcravenGuga, I'm sorry. I am unfamiliar with SIS chips... I wouldn't think the nvidia modules are in order though. I'd restart X after uninstalling them.12:00
nadthr1ce: theres an faq regarding adding gpg keys (why these problems?)12:00
ishkabobyeah looks like it12:00
ishkaboball of them say that it is used by 012:01
Gugaok, dcraven.  cross your digits12:01
whnpMarko01, you can either use filters ... or use vfolders12:01
thr1cenad, will totem recognize these codecs ?12:01
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dcravenGuga, good luck :)12:01
ompaulMarko01, you can write lots of rules to do stuff like that12:01
nadshould12:01
whnpeither way just set it to filter based on the recipient12:01
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Marko01Would I hav to do this via command line?12:01
dcravenbrb12:01
whnpMarko01,12:01
tcwdCan someone help me with making my sound work?  I'm a n00b to linux in general.12:02
Gugablender 3d still won't work, dcraven12:02
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tcwdThe driver is installed...12:02
tcwdand I checked the volume... its not muted...12:02
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tcwdwhat could the problem be?12:02
behishkabob: try doing modprobe -r sbp2 modprobe -r ohci1394 modprobe -r ieee139412:02
Shuflahello :D12:03
ishkabobk12:03
ishkabobone second12:03
behthen re starting them by doing modprobe sbp2 modprobe ohci1394 and modprobe ieee139412:03
whnpMarko01, , nope ... just go to tools -> filter editor inside evolution12:03
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krusbjorng'night12:04
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Shuflarotfl. i'm reading user friendly :D as tech-support worker and coder that comic-book is great :D12:05
Marko01Cool the thing is I have two emails I just want them both to have there own inboxes. I thank your for your time and effort.12:05
Aboodguys, iv got proplem with sound, when i try to open Totem on a move; it told me Error: Alsa Device "Default" is already in use by another program . ??? any idea ?!12:05
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ishkabobk12:07
ishkabobi did all those things12:07
whnpMarko01, if you sort the emails into their own "Inboxes" you can do this with a filter run when the mail comes in12:07
ishkabobi plugged in the ipod12:07
ishkabobnothin12:07
ishkaboboh wait12:07
Marko01Okay I already have an account setup for marko01 and mail is coming in from my provider.12:07
enplois there something like chkconfig in ubuntu?12:08
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nademplo: no, not yet12:08
Marko01Now I want to setup Evolution to pull mail down from the same provider using an account on the server called testm.12:08
ishkabobok yeah12:09
ishkabobnothing12:09
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nadishkabob: tail /var/log/messages12:09
enplonad: ok thanks12:09
ishkabobApr 20 17:10:35 localhost kernel: sbp2: $Rev: 1219 $ Ben Collins <bcollins@debia n.org>12:10
ishkabobApr 20 17:10:46 localhost kernel: ohci1394: $Rev: 1223 $ Ben Collins <bcollins@d ebian.org>12:10
ishkabobApr 20 17:10:46 localhost kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:08.0[A]  -> GSI 5 ( level, low) -> IRQ 512:10
ishkabobApr 20 17:10:46 localhost kernel: ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.1 (PCI): IRQ=[ 5]   MMIO=[ef001000-ef0017ff]   Max Packet=[2048] 12:10
ishkabobApr 20 17:10:48 localhost ieee1394.agent[9047] :      eth1394: blacklisted12:10
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transgressgrar... freaking nvidia driver won't work in 1280x80012:10
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nadishakabob: yea, i thought the 1394 module was blacklisted12:10
ishkabobwhat exactly am i looking for?12:10
ishkabobwhat does that mean?12:10
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RavI have a question regarding dependencies12:11
enploone more question. what kernel parameter should i use so that kernel messages are not printed during boot-up?12:11
RavOne of my programs called for libstdc++6 and it apparently exists for i386.. however the subinfo it getsis apparently (4.0-0pre6ubuntu7)12:12
nadenplo: install usplash for a boot screen splash image12:12
RavAm I looking at anew kernel here?12:12
transgressthe driver is set to `1280x800... but i have about 3 inches of blackness if i use the nvidia xorg.conf12:12
nadishkabob: i'm not familiar with ipods, check the forums12:12
enplonad: oh, i didn't know usplash was ready yet. thanks, i'll try it out12:13
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ishkabobok, does anyone else have any ideas about my blacklisted 1394 module?12:14
HrdwrBoBishkabob: looks like it's trying to load firewire ethernet?12:14
behishkabob: sometimes it just stays on the charging screen and doesnt go to the do not disconnect screen, i just modprobe -r those 3 modules then re modprobe them until it works. sometimes it takes more than one try12:14
HrdwrBoBstuff is weird12:14
nadenplo: it's not packaged yet, go to sourceforge. works fine i hear.12:14
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ishkabobk thanks for all your help12:16
transgressdo the marillat packages work with ubuntu?12:17
SeamusLPIndeed they do12:17
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nadtransgress: 1280x800? is this a widescreen lcd?12:18
transgressnad:  yeah it's a 15.4 lappy12:18
nadgood luck with the nVidia driver12:18
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transgressnad: heh well others have their's working... i just can't heh12:19
RavHmm still hoping is someone can answer my question regarding (4.0-0pre6ubuntu7)12:19
nadtransgress: the codecs are just libraries, put them in the right spot, voila12:20
transgressnad:  wouldn't be willing to tell me where to put them wouldya?12:20
transgresswanna be able to play some of my dvd's12:20
johan1hello everybody12:21
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nadtrangress: /usr/lib/your app/some place12:23
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suixhi12:25
suixI've problems on playing music with gstreamer12:26
nakatadon't we all...12:26
nakatathe gstringer plugin for amaroK seems to have a hard time crossfading12:27
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suixwell it plays music so fast12:27
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nadbye all. the kids wanna eat.12:29
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usualhi12:32
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j^3_hi usual12:32
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jcolehow do i make cp copy hidden files/dirs?12:32
behjcole are you talking about dirs that start with a dot12:33
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jcolebeh: ya, i want to include them in my cp -r12:35
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Juhazcp -r already copies hidden files12:41
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nekohayoois there a way to specify the locale to use for a specific user? (for example, have an user have every program in french, or spanish?)12:44
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kerframilnekohayoo: have you tried exporting LANG?12:45
eaonisn't that done on login through gdm?12:45
kerframilassuming that you're _not_ using gdm of course ;)12:45
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nekohayoono, I am.. I just didn't really think of this.. since I'm using fast switching applet12:45
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nekohayoobut it would be cool to have it.. .defaulted12:45
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kerframilnekohayoo: well, gdm let's you choose the language (on a per-user basis) and optionally set it as the default for that user, or just for the session12:46
kerframilwhat more could you want?12:46
transgresswould anyone know where the .deb package of libdvdcss2 from marillat installs to?  i'm trying to add the library to totem12:46
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speelHey hoary is complaining about the nvidia kernel module anything i can do?12:47
nekohayookerframil, if I choose that language to be default, on the gdm login (on TTY8, since it's fast user switched..), will it be on a per-user basis?12:47
kerframilnekohayoo: yes, I believe so12:47
transgressah i found it12:48
nekohayookerframil, I'll give it a try, hold on :)12:48
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johan2I wan't to change the spelling suggestions from swedish to English?12:49
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johan2Im using Gaim12:49
johan2Can somebody help me?Are total newbe12:50
johan2:)12:50
stegoHi, does anyone know why the guide comments out Marillat's sources when installing mplayer and then uncomments them? Apt now tells me it's 'holding back' mplayer-386 every time I do an upgrade.12:50
nekohayookerframil, it works, it's so amazing! :) that's why I love linux. Thanks for the quick advice ^^ the gnome panel was not "translated" however, I believe this may be fixed by killing it?12:51
LinuxJonesjohan2, you want to change the default languge that Gnome uses ?12:52
kerframilnekohayoo: hmm, worth a shot: kill -HUP `pidof gnome-panel`12:52
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squinnoy. I hate it. My wireless adapter works with Warty, not so much Hoary.12:52
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stegokerframil, why not: killall gnome-panel12:53
johan2LinuxJones: oh I see, I have to change in gnome!!12:53
kerframilstego: if you want to be pedantic then why not: killall -HUP gnome-panel12:53
kerframil;)12:53
LinuxJonesjohan2, you jsut wnat to change to english in gaim... or every application (gnome) ??12:53
LinuxJonesjohan2, sorry do you want :(12:54
zoldarhas anybody got problems with gvim ?   when i change font, the screen doesn't refresh itself during scrolling, i have to do it by hand with ctrl+L... ??12:54
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johan2LinuxJones: Sorry no I don't want to change defult language only the spelling help.12:54
stegokerframil, or even: killall -s HUP gnome-panel.12:55
LinuxJonesjohan2, ahhh like myspell or something ?12:55
stegokerframil, *that's* pedantic12:55
kerframilstego: indeed12:55
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LinuxJonesjohan2, aspell should be installed by default you will probably want to goto console and type sudo apt-get install aspell-en12:56
nekohayookerframil, nope, didn't change anything.. I'll see on next reboot maybe12:56
nekohayoothanks again12:56
kerframilnekohayoo: hmm, ok12:56
Owl^ubuntu rox!12:57
Owl^umm... sorry. :D12:57
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Owl^felt like saying it... because it's true.12:57
johan2LinuxJones: okej will try!12:57
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tweekmanworld01:03
pr3vi0uz sup poeple01:03
tweeklol01:03
tweekmanaworld*01:03
pr3vi0uzwow?01:03
tweekworst typo :\01:03
pr3vi0uz hehe01:03
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pr3vi0uz isnt kubuntu the same distro as ubuntu? cause a couple of programs wouldn't run  in gnome but on this kde everything  works ?01:05
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limeris there a burning program that installs by default with ubuntu?01:06
transgressis it 1280x960 that has the proper ratio?01:06
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|QuaD-limer: cdrecord01:06
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limercli?01:06
transgressbrb01:07
|QuaD-uhuh01:07
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limer|QuaD-: I will have to learn more cli burning apps :P  in the meantime, is there a good frontend?01:08
|QuaD-limer: i am sure there is01:08
Nermalnautilus, k3b, gnomebaker, xcdroast ?01:08
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limerI didn't realize nautilus could be used as a frontend Nermal, thx :D01:08
Nermalif you insert a blank cd / dvd nautilus will open at burn:/// for you01:08
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les_i have 3 linux systems on a network, 1 fc2, 1fc3 and ubuntu 5.04.  I have a usb printer conntected thru a usb print server.  I can print for both fc boxes but cannot print from ubuntu, although i can configure using ipp. any suggestions?01:10
CB201hey guys...what logfile is best for use with root-tail?01:10
LinuxJoneslimer, I like graveman and gnomebaker01:10
Nermal /var/log/messages?01:10
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limerthx LinuxJones01:10
squinnweird semi-on-topic question01:11
squinnbest windows cd burner01:11
Nermalnero ?01:11
squinni've got to burn warty again, that's why01:11
pr3vi0uzlol01:11
Quest-Masterack01:11
Quest-MasterI hate Nero :(01:11
tweek:\01:11
justinfknoppix live cd - it has k3b on it01:11
slappy17ive been usin nero, lately01:11
Quest-MasterIt fails EVERY SINGLE TIME it tries to burn something01:11
tweeknero isnt that bad01:11
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squinnWell, here's what happened to me.01:12
slappy17alcohol?01:12
Quest-MasterAnd my CD Burners on Linux have NEVER failed01:12
pr3vi0uz so does Kubuntu01:12
slappy17ya xcdroast is nice01:12
squinnI've just burnt my Hoary CD from Gentoo which is obsolete.01:12
slappy17ahh..gentoo..01:12
slappy17emerge gentoo01:12
squinnAnd I now realize Hoary's kernel is non-compatible with my wireless adapter.01:12
slappy17can i apt-get install gentoo?01:12
squinnyep,01:12
justinfgentoo - wait 3 days for kde to compile... serious wastage of electricity...01:12
slappy17nice01:12
slappy17use the -p01:13
squinnit will install a window manager01:13
slappy17they have portage and source01:13
transgressjustinf: took me about 6 hours to compile01:13
slappy17in fact, their dvd has most of the portages on it01:13
transgressjustinf: and just because you don't use it, doesn't mean you have to try to make it seem superior.01:13
justinftransgress -> i did use it...01:13
chavojustinf, takes less than a day to build entire KDE.01:13
slappy17fight! fight!01:13
transgressdid being the keyuword justinf01:13
chavoI do it and I'm running kubuntu.01:14
transgressjustinf: it's kind of like ex girlfriends... you say a lot more shxt when you aren't with them anymore01:14
tweek"fight! fight!"01:14
justinftransgress -> but i thought my cpu had better things to be doing than emerge -compile...01:14
pr3vi0uz im just wondering if kubuntu is the sister of ubuntu how come no one talks  in that channel lol01:14
slappy17lol tweek01:14
slappy17lets egg them on01:14
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tweekyea01:14
slappy17HEY! HE CALLED YOU A JERK!01:14
slappy17you gunna take that?01:14
tweek!01:14
tweekseriously?!01:14
slappy17i love religion01:14
slappy17hell ya, hee did!01:14
transgressjustinf: i'm sure you do some seriously hardcore worthwhile things that emerge just got in the way of01:15
slappy17ya!01:15
tweekoneone!01:15
justinftransgress -> not really. i dont get the ex girlfriend thing. i just think that gentoo is an utter waste of time.01:15
slappy17emerge -k...good stuff01:15
slappy17well, you dont like source, but it has portages01:15
slappy17you dont have to compile everything01:15
justinftransgress -> do a google for "gentoo is rice".. says it all01:16
tweeksource is fun! :}01:16
slappy17and! its python..YAY!01:16
slappy17you racists01:16
tweekrice isnt racist01:16
tweekricers01:16
transgressjustinf: i've seen it... but perhaps you should realize the fact that linux was built around custom compiling.01:16
slappy17what!? it sisnt01:16
slappy17heh01:16
justinfnah - thats just the website.not me.01:16
johan2LinuxJones: aspell-en was already installed. In openoffice I am abel to shift between SWE and EN (the F7 key or in the menu)01:16
slappy17HAHAHAHAHA!!!!01:17
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slappy17GENTOO IS FOR RICERS!?!?! LOL01:17
tweekrapeh4x01:17
slappy17dood.01:17
slappy17thats lame01:17
johan2Gaim don't give me what option?:(01:17
justinftransgress -> i know. compiled my first kernel in 1998. couldnt be arsed now -i just want to get on with stuff and do some work for my clients.01:18
tweekNiN-closer01:18
tweek:}01:18
transgressi am by no means advocating gentoo over other distro's... however, there is no point in arguing over distros and putting one below another.01:18
slappy17--usepkg (-k)01:18
slappy17    Tells emerge to use binary packages (from $PKGDIR) if they are available, thus possibly avoiding some time-consuming compiles.01:19
transgressi use gentoo, ubuntu, slackware, and freebsd...01:19
slappy17man emerge01:19
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transgressslappy17: that's true... there are packagecd's...01:19
slappy17ya, we're trolls...meanwhile this channel is app support01:19
justinftransgress - i know - i'm a jaded warrior from the red hat versus debian days during the dotcom boom... and lets not mention the gnome versus kde verus fluxbox versus icewm flamewars!01:19
slappy17nothing troll'ish there01:19
tweekhehehe@trools01:20
tweektroll01:20
slappy17dood..its all icewm01:20
slappy17no windowmaker?01:20
slappy17an vi01:20
HrdwrBoBtransgress: there's a lot of point, one needs a way to discern what to install01:20
tweekbabies?!!01:20
slappy17so why are you guys forking w/ ubuntu?01:20
transgressHrdwrBoB: huh?01:20
tweekubuntu is great i use it in both my machines01:21
HrdwrBoByou need to rate distros (at least personally) for your purpose in order to decide what you want to run01:21
tweek(but not hoary) ;)01:21
justinfyou gotta try enlightenment - first tried it back in 99 and i still cant figure it out... serious hackerish window manager though.01:21
transgressand let's keep in mind... things may take up cpu on gentoo, but things take up a lot more ram on ... iuno... distro's based around the modularized kernel concept...01:21
HrdwrBoBtransgress: do you know what you're talking about?01:21
HrdwrBoBwhat on earth do you mean01:21
transgressdistro's are made different to fit different needs... that doesn't make one better or worse01:21
HrdwrBoBif it's modularised01:21
slappy17ya it does01:21
HrdwrBoBit means the modules aren't used, they aren't loaded01:21
justinftransgress - if my cpu is being used up , i just drop back to icewm/flux etc.. its no big deal.01:22
b2stransgress: lol, its not THAT much more ram.  barely any at all01:22
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slappy17redhat sucks entierly01:22
slappy17what good is redhat?01:22
tweeknone?01:22
slappy17right!01:22
slappy17and they make me use fedora at work...-=sigh=-01:22
Edganslappy17: Red Hat as a company, RHEL, Fedora, or all of the above?01:22
transgresshow is it i get more shit for advocating no distro over another than those who are whoring for a single distro01:22
b2sslappy17: redhat is perfectly fine.  maybe it just isn't ideal for your particular situation.01:22
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slappy17all of the above01:22
justinfredhat are totally off my radar screen...01:22
transgressima go back to freebsd now... catch you guys later01:23
slappy17dood...it hasnt been ideal in 4+ years, b2s01:23
tweek9.2 blew01:23
slappy17and yum w/ fedora.. and apt!? what a JOKE!01:23
justinffreebsd - cool... like their ethos and stuff.. good luck with it!01:23
tweeki used it for a while01:23
Edganslappy17: I have liked Fedora, but they are beginning to do more things that annoy me. I am looking at moving to Ubuntu.01:23
slappy17its all still broken01:23
b2sheh, tweek you didn't like redhat 9.2?  me either ;)01:23
slappy17yep!  i cant yum upgrade without dependency issues01:23
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tweek:|01:23
tweekwhuteva01:24
slappy17the best release of redhat was 7.1 where up2date had a mem leak..that was my favorite01:24
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b2sslappy17: I've never had any dependancy issues with yum/up2date under rhel01:24
slappy17what!?01:24
Edganslappy17: you might try smart, it is kind of like a hybrid between apt and yum, and can supposedly resolve dependecies across conflicting repos01:24
slappy17you're joking01:24
slappy17Edgan: thanks for the tip..ill try01:24
Edganslappy17: My favorite was rh8 with the rpm hang issue01:24
justinfup2date - *shiver* - dont remind me.... pure hell...01:24
slappy17ahh...good one01:24
slappy17and everything under 7....when wuftp was default installed! AWESOME!01:25
slappy17because you all know how secure wuftp is01:25
slappy17ya, redhat is great01:25
Edganslappy17: Others used wuftpd at the time. vsftpd which Red Hat uses now was written in house, I think.01:25
justinfstill - thats not as bad as linspire "everything runs as root"01:25
slappy17well..linux distros stuck w/ wu...01:26
slappy17did slackware?01:26
MacIver-rw-r--r--  1 root root   4522 2005-03-23 19:53 proftpd-1.2.10-i486-201:26
EdganI used Slackware before Red Hat. The lack of good package management is why I moved away from Slackware.01:26
b2sslappy17: people still use slackware?01:26
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Edganb2s: hehe, yeah01:27
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HrdwrBoBb2s: masochists mainly01:27
slappy17ya..they do01:27
b2sI used that back in '96...01:27
MacIverdropline ;-)01:27
slappy17dood!! People who think Gentoo rules because they can't use RPM properly01:27
HrdwrBoBb2s: same01:27
slappy17bah01:27
slappy17that website is full of lies01:27
justinfbtw, installed warty on an old iMac over the weekend... bit slow - but it worked..01:27
tweeklater :}01:27
MacIverslappy17: eh?01:27
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zoldarcan anybody recommend some 2-pane style graphical file manager ? something like midnight commander but in x ...?01:27
slappy17konq01:27
slappy17heh01:27
justinfzoldar - konqie01:28
Edgandoes dpkg have something that is equivlent to rpm -V or rpm -Va?01:28
MacIver<slappy17> that website is full of lies <--what website?01:28
zoldari has 2-pane layout ?01:28
zoldarit01:28
slappy17gentoo is rice01:28
zoldarok thanks01:28
Edgangentoo is fine as long as you are willing to wait for the compiling to finish01:29
eaonslappy17: it's a /joke/01:29
slappy17edgan...dood..-k01:29
b2sEdgan: the problem I have with gentoo isn't the compile times (well, the main problem) its that things break during upgrades01:29
Edganslappy17: dpkg -k packagename?01:29
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slappy17emerge -k package01:30
MacIver"I essentially started using Gentoo because my ....ing KDE clock would never show the right time in Red Hat."01:30
Edganb2s: Isn't that true with upgrades of anything other than maybe debian stable?01:30
justinfedgan - i installed gentoo (full source compile) on a 400 mhz desktop over 3 days - and i swear to god, Ubuntu, or rather Kubuntu ran faster... now, if i was a kernel hacker , i could have made Gentoo run faster, but i'm not. it's all a bit of hype in my view.01:30
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r4nd0m1di0tworking out of the box is uncommon 4 gentoo01:30
Edganjustinf: hehe01:30
b2sEdgan: no.  the majority of my systems use rhel, and they don't break at all during upgrades.  of course, most of the packages are custom, but thankfully rpms are trivial to patch and rebuild01:31
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b2shopefully ubuntu will be as good about upgrades and rhel, and I'll switch to that.01:31
r4nd0m1di0tyeah u have to use the right flags01:31
Edganb2s: yeah, I looked into ubuntu as a server. It seems to have as many packages in main as rhel.01:32
b2ser "as rhel, and I'll switch to this"01:32
justinfthis might seem like  a weird question, but in the real world ,are you people noticing more and more folks using Linux? I'm certainly noticing it.. and i dont think its being picked up in those "surveys" of usage that we see all the time...01:32
b2sEdgan: I don't think it has as many packages as main... rhel is like 4 CDs, not 1.01:32
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Edganb2s: main isn't everything on the cd01:33
Edganb2s: just the default install01:33
b2sEdgan: ah, how big is main then?01:33
Edganb2s: like 1300 packages01:33
Edganb2s: where as rhel is like 1400-150001:33
b2shmm.  I kept finding myself having to add universe for lots of packages... though this happens to be on my desktop.  I don't know how it will be on servers.01:34
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johan2LinuxJones: It is not only me how have this problem:( http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7891.html01:34
Edganb2s: yeah, but I found myself adding lots of packages from repos under redhat01:34
Edganb2s: ubuntu has postfix, apache2, php, dovecot, cyrus-imapd, etc in main01:34
Edganb2s: packages.ubuntu.com01:35
r4nd0m1di0tred hat ... dunno why, but it makes me think of a rubber01:35
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b2sEdgan: the only packages I added under rhel were courier-mta and pure-ftpd, both of which are in universe on ubuntu01:35
LinuxJonesjohan2, that sucks I am sure it will be fixed asap :)01:36
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Edganb2s: what other services do you use in redhat? That you would want in ubuntu main?01:36
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verden01Hi01:36
b2sEdgan: I just installed my laptop with ubuntu about 3 days ago, so I haven't had much time to really plan out that sort of thing.01:37
Edganb2s: I installed it in my laptop the other day. It is nice. It didn't go so well on a junk desktop I tried it on.01:38
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johan2LinuxJones: Yes it is importent for me to have.  I can't spell so good in English:(01:40
johan2LinuxJones: Thank you anyway.. I will ask everybody hera ones:-P01:40
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dtshow can i install esddsp?01:42
nickruddts it's in esound-clients01:43
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nickrudor somthing like that :)01:43
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transgressanyone use checkinstall with ubuntu?01:43
cnez0redarg! Why do I get all these system freezes? It never used to happen with mandrake.01:43
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SQL_Samdoes mozilla come with flash player installed?01:44
TuxicitySQL_Sam, follow instructions on ubuntuguide.org01:45
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mjrSQL_Sam, no, due to restrictions placed by macromedia; see above01:45
SQL_Samsweet!01:45
SQL_SamI did install it then!01:45
SQL_Samyipee i did something right!!!01:45
SQL_Sami was trying to install if for konqueror though....01:46
CB201'lo01:46
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johan2Everybody!!  I have a problem and  the same problem are in the forum not solved. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7891.html01:46
transgressanyone know of another program that would work like checkinstall?01:47
dtsnickrud, ok let me try that01:47
dtsyep works01:47
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CB201I get the following error when I try to run a program: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: no such file or directory01:47
johan2Some heroes in here?:'(01:47
SQL_Samdoes konqueror have a flash player?01:47
nickrudSQL_Sam, you can try the flashplayer-mozilla in multiverse01:47
slappy17im a hero01:48
nickrudIt's always worked for me, but I have heard of people it doesn't work for01:48
johan2slappy17: sounds good:)01:48
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transgressherm i may put x86 on this box instead of amd64... missing so many packages bleh01:50
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dtsdennis@dennis01:~/python/test$ esddsp -m skype01:51
dts/dev/dsp-1: No such file or directory01:51
dts/dev/dsp-1: Connection refused01:51
djm62autochthon!01:51
dts?01:51
CB201I get the following error when I try to run a program: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: no such file or directory01:51
CB201can anyone help?01:51
CB201I don't know where I can instlal that lib file from01:52
Pluktrying to install maya?01:52
CB201me? no...01:52
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dtsCB201, can you run synaptic?01:52
CB201dts, yes...it's not there01:52
dtssynaptic?01:52
slappy17johan2: sorry, i dont know about that aspell-no01:52
SQL_Sami cant seem to connect to irc.mozilla.org? anyone else have problems?01:52
slappy17its not in any gaim doc?01:52
mjrCB201, I once ran into that, and did a really ugly thing that worked for me but that you really shouldn't do01:52
CB201dts, at least, it's not in synaptic under that name01:53
mjrnamely, created the following symlink in /usr/lib:01:53
mjrlibstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 -> libstdc++.so.601:53
dtsCB201, did you try installing the libs with aptget01:53
dtsapt-get01:53
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Plukmaybe symlink libstdc++-lib6.2.2.so.3 to libstdc++6.so.x in /usr/lib01:53
Plukdoh too late01:53
CB201dts, yes...that file is definitely not in any repositories. see for yourself.01:54
cnez0redhey gl graphics keep screwing up my system. Anyone else have that problem?01:54
CB201mjr, that sounds a bit dangerous01:54
TuxicityCB201, did you compile this prog yourself?01:54
mjrCB201, good ;)01:54
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LinuxJonesjohan2, Good Luck :)01:55
slappy17does it invoke aspell directly?01:55
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slappy17can you just symlink aspell to aspell-no?01:55
CB201Tuxicity, all I did was untar it01:55
slappy17that sounds really lame typing it out01:55
nickrudheh01:55
TuxicityCB201, which prog is it?01:56
XandriXhi slappy1701:56
johan2slappy17:It's ok checking in the gaim doc now:-/01:56
nickrudjohan2, maybe the gaim site has a work around01:56
ShadowRagedoes warty have any known issues with a dell optiplex GX1?01:56
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CB201Tuxicity...it's a game called N01:57
CB201http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/n.html01:57
ShadowRagedoes warty have any known issues with a dell optiplex GX1?01:57
transgressis there an ubuntu package for ndiswrapper?01:57
slappy17hi Xandri01:57
ShadowRageit cant detect a cdrom on bootup01:57
ShadowRageEVEN THOUGH that's the medium it's using01:58
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ShadowRagedell optiplex GX1 with 96 mb of ram01:59
johan2 slappy17: Im a linux newbe. What is symlink aspell to aspell-no?01:59
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Juhaztransgress, ndiswrapper-utils, the kernel module is in the base ubuntu kernel01:59
ShadowRageanyone know?01:59
slappy17ah, its basicly a "symbolic/soft" link that points to another file01:59
slappy17its a file that points to another file01:59
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slappy17through the file system01:59
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slappy17there are also hard links that point to the file but in a different manner, you could say that it is even the same file with a different name02:00
johan2nickrud: Im cheking now..02:00
slappy17hardlinks are restricted to filesystems but symlinks dont care..02:00
nickrudjohan2, see if they have any kind of bugzilla or other buglist02:01
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slappy17well, how does gaim invoke aspell02:01
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ShadowRagedell optiplex GX1 with 96 mb of ram02:02
ShadowRagedoes warty have any known issues with a dell optiplex GX1?02:02
nickrudI'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure it's separate from gnome's, or at least was02:02
slappy17strace ?02:02
slappy17ldd gaim?02:02
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johan2slappy17:sorry I can't follow you02:02
nickrudnot that interested :)02:02
slappy17lol02:03
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slappy17        libaspell.so.15 => /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15 (0x04931000)02:03
slappy17ldd from gaim02:03
Rimaif your running kernel 2.6.x and need to compile a module for 2.4.18 - is it possible to do this without having a running kernel of 2.4.18?02:03
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transgressokay how do i use that ndiswrapper-utils... i can't find that in a search with synaptic... don't have a program for it...02:03
nickrudbesides, I stopped programming before I knew anything  of unix execpt that the phone lines ran on it02:04
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nickruddon't think that way :)02:04
slappy17im a crappy hero02:04
slappy17;)02:04
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transgresscould it be i don't have ndiswrapper because i'm on amd64 ubuntu?02:05
TuxicityRima, I suppose you'd need the the 2.4 kernel headers though (just a guess)02:05
b2stransgress: I'm on amd64 using ndiswrapper...02:05
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b2stransgress: I didn't use the packages from apt-get though, because they didn't work for me.02:05
kakaltohow can I convert ogg to mp3?02:05
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b2stransgress: I downloaded the tar.gz from the main webpage, and compiled it myself (make deb)02:06
RimaTuxicity, hmm I have done it before just can't remember how I did it - and opting for the quickest way possible lol02:06
kakaltoanyone?02:06
transgressb2s:  thanks for the tip02:06
transgressb2s:  what card are you using  by chance02:06
a2t3kakalto: convert to wav and next convert to ogg, stupid method ;)02:06
kakaltono02:06
kakaltoogg ----> mp302:06
nickrudkakalto, yeah, I've seen a package for it somewhere02:06
kakaltoor ogg -----> wma, if that's easier02:06
Tuxicitykakalto, for your portable player, right?02:07
kakaltoyup02:07
nickrudwas thinking about going mp3 --> ogg02:07
kakaltoya02:07
a2t3kakalto: convert to wav, next to mp302:07
mjtwhatever ---> whatever -- it's always whatever --> wav --> whatever02:07
b2stransgress: I'm using a broadcom wifi-g adapter02:07
kakaltoah02:07
transgressb2s:  you wouldn't have a 64bit driver i could gank from you would you?02:08
mjtjust don't forget that converting one lossy format to another means the quality is lost more and more on each conversion02:08
kakaltoso, how do I convert ogg to wav?02:08
mjtoggdec02:08
b2stransgress: its available for download somewhere on the web... let me go look02:08
johan2slappy17: thank you for the time anyway. You couldn't solve the problem or?02:08
CB201ls -l libstdc02:08
Tuxicitykakalto, probably Audacity can do such convertions02:09
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transgresshehe some guy is on the help channel for work and asking us why he can't access our site... he seems to have gotten his IP blacklisted for something02:09
dtshas anyone gotten esddsp towork?02:09
a2t3kakalto: use sox02:09
johan2slappy17: I could not follow you are totaly new to linux02:09
kakaltoa2t3, whenever I try sox, it goes to a prompt02:10
kakaltoand I don't know what to do02:10
hypnokakalto or ogg123 file.ogg | lame - file.mp302:10
a2t3kakalto: rtfm ;)02:10
johan2johan2: must go and drink a coffe:-P02:10
kakaltoa2t3, the man is always too hard to understand02:10
kakaltohypno, thanks02:10
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kakaltoit never works!02:11
b2stransgress:  http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/drivers.php02:11
MasterChief_113um hi02:11
kakaltoit always just goes to a new line with ">"02:11
hypnokakalto that's not quite right02:11
kakaltois there just a GUI app for encoding/decoding?02:12
kakaltoaudacity?02:12
kakaltodoes that work?02:12
Tuxicitykakalto, Audacity is an audio editor. It should do that and more I guess02:12
Hueydoes anyone know why debian and ubuntu use inetd over xinetd?02:12
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Hueywhat advantages does it have?02:12
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kakaltoTuxicity, thanks02:12
Hueyor is there some long mailing list i should be reading through?02:12
lukewarmHuey, it's easier to spell02:13
b2stransgress: also, when you get the ndiswrapper tarball, you'll need to edit the control files in the debian directory to change the arch from i386 to amd6402:13
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hypnokakalto this works: ogg123 file.ogg -d au -f - | lame - file.mp302:13
nickrudhuey, try the debian bug list for inetd, you'll probably find a long thread, anyway02:14
GammaRayhypno: that's pretty lame :-P02:14
hypnoi get it02:15
hypno;p02:15
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martinHave unusual problem02:16
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MasterChief_113i just downloaded the debian linux cd 1 at my college to day and extracted the files with an iso program then painstakingly transfered all the files to my apple laptop, then to my home pc... then i burned all the files to a new cd-wr, i put it in an older computer, and type e:\install\boot.bat but it says Syantax error, then it goes thru all the kernals, and says bad direcrtory or file blah blah blah... any idea sorry for ho02:16
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HrdwrBoBMasterChief_113: troll02:17
transgressumm umm umm umm... does ubuntu not install gcc?02:17
MasterChief_113huh/02:17
hypnotransgress install build-essential02:17
MasterChief_113?*02:17
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TuxicityMasterChief_113, perhaps #debian would be more appropriate?02:18
kakaltohypno, that command doesn't work02:18
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MasterChief_113u mean the version?02:18
kakaltohypno, you know why02:18
kakalto?02:18
Tuxicitytransgress, sudo apt-get install build-essential02:18
kakaltoI don't have lame installed02:18
transgressubuntu freaks me out heh02:18
transgresslinux w/o gcc..02:19
zhukov_hello02:19
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zhukov_can anyone please explain me why i get permission denied whe i run this:02:19
zhukov_sudo splash -s -f /etc/bootsplash/themes/current/config/bootsplash-1024x768.cfg >> initrd.img-2.x.x02:19
resiaktransgress: In other words, like just about every Debian-derived distro?02:19
martin----------Is there anyone that has ati mobility 9600 that has it working under ubuntu??02:19
MasterChief_113hmmm02:20
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transgressresiak: this is the only debian derived distro i've used... used debian for a while, but got tired of slow updates...02:20
a2t3martin: DRI do not work with this card, check ATI drivers02:20
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transgresshey b2s: did you have to do anything special to install ndiswrapper from source on 64bit?02:20
zhukov_anyone...02:21
a2t3martin: if you want 3D support, 2D should work02:21
nickrudMasterChief_113, if what you said is true, you are total screwed, I think. It's so outrageous, it sounds unbelievable02:21
ShadowRagehow do I redo the ubuntu setup?02:21
MasterChief_113lol02:21
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Juhazzhukov_, because sudo only runs "splash"02:21
ShadowRagewhat command was it?02:21
Juhazzhukov_, redirection is done with user permissions02:21
martina2t3: DRI? I have installed latest ATI 8.12.10 drivers, get 2D and 3D, but 3D is "laggy"02:21
kakaltowhat's the command to convert wav to mp3?02:21
kakaltowav2mp3 <file> <file> ?02:22
hypnolame file.wav file.mp302:22
zhukov_so how can i solve it?02:22
a2t3martin: dri.sf.net  but it works only with old ati cards02:22
resiaktransgress: Debian itself is exactly the same wrt build-essential02:22
kakaltohypno, thanks02:22
Juhaztry sudo sh -c "splash -s -f /etc/bootsplash/themes/current/config/bootsplash-1024x768.cfg >> initrd.img-2.x.x"02:22
transgressbleh... ndiswrapper is giving me all kinds of hell02:23
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Juhazwindows driver special hell, now available for linux users!02:23
a2t3;)02:24
transgressheh i haven't gotten to the driver part of it yet02:24
transgressi'm growing increasingly tempted to just install 32bit ubuntu on to here02:24
nickrudkakalto, there's a script on http://home.wanadoo.nl/cchq/conmen/conmen.html . Maybe you could take a look at that for some ideas02:25
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b2stransgress: heh. not for me. I got amd64 working, and I'm keeping it that way02:26
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transgressb2s: what did you do to get ndiswrapper to compile?  it tells me that amd64 is not a build option02:27
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b2stransgress: that's that last bit I said...02:28
b2stransgress: also, when you get the ndiswrapper tarball, you'll need to edit the control files in the debian directory to change the arch from i386 to amd6402:28
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b2sthey are control, control.modules, control.source, control.utils02:29
zhukov_thats it, ive enough of bootsplash!Theres no way i can get this working in ubuntu02:30
zhukov_thanks Juhaz02:30
transgressb2s:  awesome.  thanks.02:30
b2stransgress: let me know if you have any problems, since I'm going to be repeating this a few more times for some friends who have similar hardware02:31
Tuxicityb2s, that would be a good thing to add to the wiki, no?02:31
transgresswhat do i apt-get for my kernel headers?  apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ?02:31
b2sTuxicity: maybe.  I don't know anything about the wiki :)02:32
transgressheh well once i get this done i'll write one up for wiki then02:32
b2sactually, I wonder why ndiswrapper-1.1 isn't available standard.  aside from having to compile it and adjust the arch, it seemed to work quite easily.02:32
b2stransgress: if you don't have kernel headers, you might need to get those too02:33
OddChildi am about to finish my 4 day download to get off XP on to linux... be glad when it is running02:33
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Tuxicitytransgress, good attitude :)02:33
transgressb2s: heh that's what i was asking... what's the command to get those... like apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ?02:33
b2stransgress: looks plausible02:34
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gpledwhat is a good command line mp3 player, that i can apt-get?02:35
Juhazmpg32102:36
scottanyone else have problems with links in evolution not opening in firefox? I click the links and right click open in browser and they don't open02:36
b2sspeaking of kernel headers, does anyone know why package linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-k8 provides version "2.6.10-34" (instead of -5)02:36
gpledetz: Package mpg321 has no installation candidate :(02:37
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transgressscott: change the default browser in the gnome controls?02:38
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Tuxicityscott, maybe you need an ijnstance of Firefox already running, justa guess02:38
Juhazdoh, looks like it's in universe02:38
transgressscott: if so did you put firefox %s? or just firefox02:38
nickrudsystem->preferences->preferred applications02:38
gpledJuhaz: how do i set universe?02:38
gpled:)02:38
DoppelGangerscott: you call tht a problem02:39
DoppelGangergo back to windows02:39
transgresswow i got ndiswrapper built... thanks b2s... i'll write that wiki and give you loads of credit02:39
transgresshey b2s... do i only do make deb?  or make deb install or what?02:39
gpledi have sound, but xmms cant see it :(02:40
Juhazgpled, add it from synaptic->settings->repositories or modify sources.list by hand02:40
transgressah i got it02:40
Juhazgpled, and you might want to read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats for rest of things that are left out from base repositories because of legal reasons02:41
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XTCzup people.... :)02:41
gpledJuhaz: thanks for the tips02:42
transgressokay driver installed... now to see if it works02:43
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XTCboarderdude.... where did the startterscript go?02:44
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XTCboarderanybody know?, it's a 404 from the ubuntuforums' site.....02:45
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transgressokay i can't modprobe ndiswrapper now that i have it installed02:45
transgressb2s:  did you have any problems with it after you got it installed?  i installed it, chose the .inf, and tried to modprobe... did i forget something?02:46
DoppelGangerah dependency02:46
transgressah i found out why02:46
transgressit says i have an invalid driver02:46
DoppelGangeranother sign of being unable to fuckinggoogleit.com02:46
transgressgrr... it's not a .inf... it's the .sys... should that matter?02:47
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XTCboarderdoes anybody have the starter script for hoary 5.04? the one that a guy posted at ubuntuforums?02:48
goldfishnope02:49
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transgressdoes anyone know how i could pull the freaking files from the hp .exe?  w/o wine...02:49
XTCboarder:(02:49
b2stransgress: you need both I think...02:49
GammaRaystarter script?02:49
GammaRaytransgress: tru unzip02:49
GammaRaytransgress: try unzip02:49
b2swhat driver are you using?  not broadcom wifi-g?02:49
goldfishXTCboarder: he has a link to it on that post02:49
XTCboarderGammaRay,  a script that installs useful stuff02:50
XTCboardergoldfish, the link is broken now :(02:50
slappy17unzip works on exe?02:50
goldfishah right02:50
b2sslappy17: if the exe is a zip self extractor02:50
goldfishyou could install them yourself :)02:50
XTCboarder20:45:18 ERROR 404: Not Found << :(02:50
transgressb2s:  i have an hp that has an integrated broadcom...02:50
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slappy17ahh02:50
TuxicityXTCboarder, is that the same as MrBass.org Quick Install Script?02:50
b2stransgress: the generic broadcom didn't work for you?02:50
GammaRayslappy17: depends.. a lot of exes are really self extracting zips02:50
XTCboarderlet's see.....02:50
transgressokay so these two differently named drivers go together?02:51
transgressmaybe that was my prob02:51
XTCboarderit's not :(02:52
transgressb2s:  ah nice now it has driver present and hardware present on ndiswrapper -l02:52
transgressand modprobe worked02:52
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transgresswoohoo02:52
b2stransgress: cool02:52
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transgresswhat's a good aptable prog to see if i can look for networks with it?02:53
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XTCboarderTuxicity, have you tried that script?02:53
TuxicityXTCboarder, sorry no, I did all manually02:53
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XTCboarder'k.....02:54
transgressguess i'll go with kismet02:54
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transgressah nice as far as i can tell it is working02:55
transgressbut i live in the boonies where there are no wifi connections... and i don't use wireless02:55
transgressso i guess i'll find out later02:55
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comfreyanyone know the best card to work with kismet?02:56
b2stransgress: if you can see it under System -> Admin -> Networking, then it is perfect02:57
comfreyi would prefer something with g support02:57
comfreybut i suppose i could just go with a prism2 or so...02:57
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xfSxhey guys, just noticed that samba file sharing doesn't seem to work.. if i /etc/init.d/samba restart i get a restart [fail] , i've looked at smb.conf.. how come the default doesn't work?02:57
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transgressb2s:  i see it02:58
SeamusLPxfSx:  Have you tried /etc/init.d/samba start ?02:59
monkey89what's the proper way to add birthdays and anniversaries to evolution?02:59
xfSx[fail] s02:59
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|QuaD-anyone here use jabber?03:00
transgress|QuaD-: i do03:00
SeamusLPxfSx:  I don't know what's going on.  I'm running hoary and the default samba is fine.03:00
|QuaD-transgress: do you know a lot about the different gtk clients?03:00
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transgress|QuaD-: that i don't really like them... best one i've found is probably psi... but gaim is okay if you don't want to use encryption, and gabber was probably my favorite after psi03:01
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transgress|QuaD-: but gabber hasn't been updated in ages03:01
|QuaD-transgress: everyone talks about psi, i hate qt though03:01
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xfSxwell i can browse and read off the network, but my share's aren't showing up.. i've reinstalled samba through synaptic and still nothing.. some of the forums talk about smbpasswd to get it working.. i'm bamboozled03:01
abarbacciaim missing a codec to playback AVI files-  anybody know the package name?03:01
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transgress|QuaD-: well umm... get over it?03:02
|QuaD-transgress: you try gossip or gush?03:02
xfSxabarbaccia, tried vlc?03:02
b2s|QuaD-: I just use gaim to connect to jabber03:02
transgress|QuaD-: nope... after going through and finally landing on psi i have stuck with it03:02
transgressi like to be able to use encryption with jabber outside of gaim encryption03:02
SeamusLPabarbaccia:  I'd use vlc or totem-xine for that.  totem-gstreamer probably won't cut it.03:02
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transgressb2s: can i have your jabberID?03:02
|QuaD-transgress: hmmmm03:02
|QuaD-transgress: you don't want my jabber id???? how rude!03:03
|QuaD-:)03:03
b2sheh03:03
abarbacciathanks all - i appreciate it - vlc did the trick!03:03
SeamusLPxfSx:  I wish I could help, don't really know much about samba though03:03
|QuaD-do you knoww of any with gui frontend and cli frontend?03:03
transgress|QuaD-: are you on jabber just yet?03:03
SirFunkblah, i can't wait for mono/beagle on amd64!03:04
nekohayoum, anyone having problems with dead keys in openoffice2?03:04
|QuaD-transgress: not really :)03:04
|QuaD-transgress: i was kidding03:04
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nekohayoit just started recently without apparent reason03:04
xfSxok that's cool i know the answer's out there in the forums somewhere ;003:04
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spiderwormhow would i tell synaptic to ignore broken packages for now?03:04
transgress|QuaD-: i have foresight hehe... but you can have mine... it's transgress@jabber.unoc.net03:04
XandriXjdub is not there isint he03:04
XTCboarderhow do i restart network interfaces?03:04
|QuaD-transgress: i don't have jabber yet, when i do, you will be my first jabber friend03:04
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|QuaD-transgress: do you use the aim transport?03:05
sladenXTCboarder: sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth003:05
XandriXXTCboarder, ifconfig interfacename stop ifconfig interfacename start03:05
xfSxdoes anyone know where i can get those cool widgets that show you disk / mem / cpu / net usage on your desktop?03:05
transgress|QuaD-: nope... i have aim running on my other box that i let people leave me messages on and i check every 5 or 6 days03:05
|QuaD-transgress: lol03:05
nekohayoxfSx, gkrellm or gdesklets03:05
|QuaD-i want to know if they support file transfer03:05
nekohayoor superkarama for kde03:05
xfSxnekohayo, thanks03:05
transgressi hate aim03:05
nekohayono one having dead dead keys?03:06
transgressi do use the msn transport though because my sister uses msn03:06
nekohayo:P03:06
SeamusLPXTCboarder:  /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart  just to be different ;)03:06
XTCboarderthx03:06
|QuaD-transgress: does it support file transfer?03:06
transgress|QuaD-: the msn transport does support send files most of the time03:06
transgressit's quarky but it usually works03:06
|QuaD-transgress: what bout recieve?03:06
transgressyeah03:07
nekohayogaim improved a lot lately03:07
|QuaD-transgress: and it supports things like buddyicons, etc?03:07
nekohayoyes03:07
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transgressyeah gaim has direct connect, but it's bugged if you are behind a router03:07
transgress|QuaD-: psi and gabber don't... gaim does03:08
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|QuaD-transgress: ok03:08
transgresspeople... are... retarded...03:08
transgressi ask this guy for his domains so i can update his dns on our webservers at work... all he says is "sure" and doesn't give me his domains03:09
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|QuaD-transgress: lol03:09
xfSxwhat's the easiest way to automatically dial in my speedtouch usb modem on boot (need to call it from an rc after hotplug?)03:10
Edgansquirrelmail should be in main :\03:10
xfSxthank you pleesh03:11
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XTCboarderwhat's the name of this app used to test opengl suport?03:15
XTCboarderglx....?03:15
jpguys I think libgnome-cil is broken 'cause I can't install it. I have main and universe, before ?ve installed it, now I can't ... any ideas?03:15
xfSxgears03:15
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XTCboarderthx03:15
xfSxnp03:16
EdganxfSx: glxinfo is also useful03:16
xfSxi get 800003:16
xfSxhehe03:16
XTCboarder!!03:16
XTCboarderi got 130 :(03:16
XandriXnight all03:16
XTCboardernite03:17
jp libgnome-cil: depends of: libgda2-1 (>= 1.1.99) but it's not installable03:17
jp:(03:17
xfSxinstalled nvidia driver (if u got 1)03:17
xfSxnn03:17
jpthat package is broken :/03:17
XTCboarderi'm onto that right now....03:17
XTCboarderi just installed this box from scratch03:17
xfSxcoll synaptic's the trick03:17
XTCboarderi'm configuring03:17
XTCboarderyeah03:17
xfSx;)03:17
xfSxdo u know what's the easiest way to automatically dial in my speedtouch usb modem on boot (need to call it from an rc after hotplug?)03:17
XTCboarderbut i wanna have all the packages and all configs set before reboot03:17
nekohayodead keys with openoffice2, anyone ^^?03:18
cnez0redHey I just installed fluxbox and fluxconf using apt-get. If I press ctrl+alt+backspace, will the login screen now have the option to use fluxbox?03:18
nakataisn't that already on the forums?03:18
nakata(speedtouch usb on-boot)03:18
nekohayocnez0red, why don't you give it a try?03:18
XTCboarderi dunno03:18
xfSxnakata, lemme check03:18
nakataouais: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2601703:19
cnez0rednekohayo because it means losing my my current desktop session - unnecessarily if that's the case.03:19
nekohayoit's THAT important? XD03:19
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nekohayosorry I don't know03:20
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nekohayoit did for XFCE though03:20
holycowgood captive ntfs information --> http://blog.badri.us/badriram/archive/2005/01/05/155.aspx03:20
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cnez0redshould brb03:21
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transgressinstall build-essentials would include a c++ compiler as well right?03:28
ShadowRagehow do I redo the ubuntu setup?03:28
transgresswell i do have it installed... but psi is being dumb and can't find it03:28
transgressShadowRage: with the install cd?03:29
ShadowRageno03:29
ShadowRagethe program on disk03:29
mjc_anyone have any luck with mythtv on amd64? client segfaults for me03:29
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ShadowRagealso, why is ubuntu having issues detecting the cdrom on that comp?03:29
housetiertransgress whats the error message from psi?03:30
GammaRayShadowRage: you can reconfigure packages w/ dpkg-reconfigure <package>03:30
ShadowRageit's an optiplex GX1 with an i440 chipset03:30
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ShadowRageGammaRay: like.. when you first run ubuntu after installing from CD, that thing.03:30
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transgresshousetier: i found it... it needed qt-mt-dev or whatever instead of qt-dev03:31
GammaRayShadowRage: hoary?03:32
transgresshousetier: wouldn't know where to get QCA 1.0 would you?03:32
ShadowRageGammaRay: warty03:32
ShadowRage*is waiting for hoary from the shipit thing*03:33
XTCboarderwhat's the diference between haory and warty?03:33
SeamusLPShadowRage:  Why not grab a hoary torrent?03:33
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ShadowRage56k.03:34
rempresentanyone want to help a brother install his ati card?03:34
GammaRayXTCboarder: updated packages like gnome 2.10. a gui for security updates03:34
XTCboarder;D03:34
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housetiertransgress libqca1 - Qt Cryptographic Architecture - shared library03:35
CitizenKanedoes anyone know how to execute a .run file?03:35
housetiertransgress also "apt-cache search qca" will show some other results that might be of interest as well03:35
ewhittenCitizenKane: well you... um nevermind. :)03:35
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GammaRayXTCboarder: I doubt that's all :-P03:35
rempresentno one?03:35
rempresentanyone know about ati cards?03:35
ewhittenCitzenKane: first make sure it's executable (chmod +x filename)03:36
XTCboarder:p03:36
ewhittenrempresent:  I have a x800 pro installed.  what's up?03:36
CitizenKaneewhitten, ok03:36
rempresentewhitten:  i have the same one, a radeon 9800pro03:36
XTCboarderem.. what's "webmedia" for?03:36
ewhittenCitizenKane:  from the directory the .run file is in, try doing:  sh ./filename03:36
transgresshousetier: i get nothing with those searches03:36
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ewhittenrempresent:  so you need help getting it setup?03:37
rempresentewhitten:  i was just wondering what you did... i haven't updated ubuntu, i am still on the basic hoary installation... so i am ready to go with the installation03:37
xfSxxtc, what fps you getting now?03:37
rempresentewhitten:  yeah, i would like some help, i want to get cedega running and WoW later on tonight03:37
housetiertransgress maybe you need to erm... "activate" more repositories, universe or so03:38
ewhittenrempresent:  I made sure I installed the linux-restricted-modules package for my kernel version, then grabbed the fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx file03:38
ewhittenrempresent:  cool, I was doing the same thing on my laptop before I canceled WoW :)03:38
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rempresentewhitten:  slow down...03:38
rempresentewhitten:  what should i go do first, and then i will go do that... do i need to enable universal repostitories03:38
rempresent?03:38
XTCboarderxfSx i haven't rebooted03:38
XTCboarderi'm installing stuff....03:38
rempresentewhitten:  is cedega good, worth the coin?03:39
XTCboarderi haven't even setup the video card on xorg.conf03:39
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bretzelQ: Why running kde session, the fonts are all bigger than all others window managers ?03:39
mjc_rempresent, if you have a video card that doesn't suck, yes.03:39
transgressokay i uncomment the universe line and it tells me it can't load that repo because it doesn't exist03:39
ewhittenrempresent:  I'm not sure what repository the fglrx packages are in... I have universe/multiverse both enabled03:39
mjc_rempresent, ati's linux drivers perform miserably03:39
ewhittenrempresent:  ymmv with ati.03:40
transgressi get pretty much the same thing for any repo i ad03:40
CitizenKaneewhitten, it appears to be working thanks03:40
ewhittenmjc_:  exactly.03:40
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ewhittenCitizenKane: glad to hear it.03:40
rempresentyeah, i got a 9800pro w/ 256mb of memory on the card... so i think that i will be fine03:40
rempresentymmv?03:40
ewhittenmjc_:  I wish I had an nvidia again.. switched to x800pro for hl2 in windows03:40
mjc_rempresent, mine doesn't work very well03:40
ewhittenyour mileage may vary03:40
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rempresentalright, i will ject...03:40
mjc_rempresent, same card, most modern games are completely unplayable. blame ati03:41
rempresentreally03:41
ewhittenyeah, their driver support is terrible.03:41
rempresentmjc_:  that sucks...03:41
mjc_yes03:41
rempresentbut, can i get it to work at least, and play the games...?03:41
Shado1ya ati needs to fix that03:41
nomasteryodaati SUCKs03:41
nomasteryodaimho03:41
ewhittenWoW may be doable... it's not too intense03:41
Shado1BAH ATI OWNEZ03:42
rempresentif not, i don't want to, but i can go pay for a windows installation and do that later...03:42
ewhittenchildren!03:42
rempresentyeah, i didn't think so03:42
nomasteryodaShado1, er, right03:42
rempresentanyway, is there like a guide that you followed or whatever...03:42
Shado1:)03:42
Shado1i got most all my games to work in linux03:42
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GammaRaylike what?03:42
ewhittenrempresent:  www.transgaming.org forums... there's a forum just for WoW there03:42
bretzel(sorry for insiting: ) Q: Why running kde session, the fonts are all bigger than all others window managers ?03:42
rempresentnah nah nah, i mean for the installation of the ati card in ubuntu03:43
ewhittenbretzel:  you might want to try one of the kubuntu channels listed in the topic.03:43
transgressokay i added universe and multiverse... but still i get nothing when searching qca03:43
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GammaRayShado1: "yea.. ati ownz *you*"03:43
ewhittenbretzel: I'm guessing most people here are probably gnome users03:43
Shado1i got WoW and BF, and Rupublic Commando, and ya some other random games, DK2, and others03:43
Shado1GammaRay: lol03:44
ewhittenif only Worms 3D worked.  *sniff*03:44
mjc_WoW ran fine w/ my GeForce4 Ti 4600, doesn't run at all on my 9800 Pro under linux03:44
mjc_too slow03:44
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mjc_dual opteron 242, 2GB RAM03:44
rempresentshoot03:44
bretzelewhitten: oops -- yes -- I suck! Actually I am running gnome but sometimes I need to go KDE... okay, see you @kubuntu then... sorry03:44
mjc_stupid fricking card03:44
rempresentwell, i would like to give it a go...03:44
ewhittenno harm in trying.03:44
rempresenti do have a geforce 4 440 mx...03:44
rempresentsomething like that...03:44
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mjc_your 9800Pro's performance would be approximately equivalent to that GF4MX03:45
dromedaryhow do i get my nikon D70 to show up as a USB mass storage device?03:45
rempresentso then i shouldn't do anything.03:45
dromedarycan i get it to work?03:45
hypnoewhitten i think the scorched3d game is pretty similar to 3d worms03:45
mjc_try it and see if you can live with it03:45
rempresentanyway, about installing the ati card... anyone have a guide03:45
rempresent?03:45
Shado1hey, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, Toshiba Satilite A-10,  and the internet dosnt work, if i do ifconfig all i get is lo, my eth0 isnt there, if i do: ifconfig eth0 up , then it iwll be on the list but still no net03:46
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frank_I had no idea the driver support from ATI for linux was horrible. Good thing I bought Nvidia!03:46
dromedaryare there any guides or documentation dealing with digital camera support03:46
mjc_frank_, for amd64 for the longest time it was simply nonexistant03:46
rempresentyeah, you are a lucky one03:46
mjc_dromedary, try linux-usb.org03:47
mjc_sometimes they have links03:47
frank_I installed linux recently so I didn't miss it03:47
rempresentewhitten:  where is a guide, or do you want to walk me through it?03:47
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transgressit seems i'm still finding non-existant stuff for amd64... such as qca03:47
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ewhittenrempresent:  I haven't seen a guide, but you might want to scroll up to the instructions I gave you above03:48
rempresentgot it03:48
ewhittenrempresent:  also change the Driver "ati" line to Driver "fglrx" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:48
ewhittenrempresent:  sorry for being short, half dead with the flu. :)03:48
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GammaRayso if ubuntu means humanity.. what does kubuntu mean?03:49
dromedaryhow do i switch to PTP mode? It says that's what i need to do with kernels 2.4 and later.03:49
rempresentalright03:49
rempresentthanks!03:49
XTCboarderkhumanity ;D03:49
ewhittenhumanity to lizards?03:49
GammaRaykrappy humanity?03:49
XTCboarderi think it's ubuntu with kde03:49
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ewhitten;)03:50
GammaRaywell I saw a lizard doing pushups. so there.03:50
ewhittenwell, I saw one doing pushups too.  with no hands.03:51
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dromedaryhow does one switch to PTP mode?03:51
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bob2for your camera?03:52
bob2why?03:52
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shad0w1eis there any way to roll back to hoary after upgrading to breezy?03:53
lsuactiafnerchecking for glib-config... /usr/bin/glib-config03:54
lsuactiafnerchecking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.2... no03:54
lsuactiafnerglib is installed..03:54
bob2shad0w1e: no03:54
bretzelshad0w1e: breezy ?? There is already another next release working ?03:54
bob2no, it's not03:54
shad0w1eits beta03:54
bob2lsuactiafner: libglib1.2-dev03:54
shad0w1eoh ok ill just delete the partition and reinstall. I anyways just installed it and for a joke updated it to breezy03:55
GammaRayewhitten: http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc99/2_27_99/bob2ref.htm03:55
lsuactiafnerthanks03:55
shad0w1eI totally tried killing my linux yesterday and couldnt03:55
bob2lsuactiafner: also, install build-essential03:55
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GammaRayewhitten: http://galliform.bhs.mq.edu.au/lizard2/Behaviour/comm_pu.html03:55
shad0w1eok thanks guys , peace03:56
bob2shad0w1e: note that breezy is undergoing large changes at the moment, and isn't ready for general users yet03:56
bretzelindeed - but where can I get infos about the features: working in progress and planned features in breezy ?03:56
bretzelhey bob2 :-)03:56
ewhittenGammaRay:   fine fine, you win :)03:56
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lsuactiafnerbob2 : one thing ubuntu needs is development tools installed by default03:57
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HrdwrBoBlsuactiafner: because apt-get install build-essential is too hard?03:57
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bretzelHrdwrBoB: :-)03:57
bob2lsuactiafner: corporates don't like it, it wastse space for normal desktop users, and instal;ling them by default still won't let you compile things03:58
bob2since just about any useful program will need a slew of other -dev packages, too03:58
lsuactiafnerno HrdwrBoB : becuase apt-get install build-essential doesnt install everything someone needs to compile software himself.03:58
frank_lsuactiafner, Ubuntu is a user desktop primarily03:58
bob2lsuactiafner: you can't install " everything someone needs to compile software himself."03:58
bob2that's not possible03:58
bob2various -dev packages Conflict03:58
pixil9lol ubuntu as a colocated server03:58
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lsuactiafnerstill, i feel i'm going nuts trying to get things to compile rather than using packages..03:59
bob2I have ubuntu on my mail and web werver03:59
bob2it works wonderfully03:59
bob2lsuactiafner: why are yo ucompiling to begin with?03:59
bretzelbob2: I agree because there are LOTS of pkgs to install for developping, thus if I know how to code basicly, I know and don't mind to download and install those pkgs ...03:59
pixil9Just use packages?03:59
pixil9wtf03:59
lsuactiafnerbob2 : slackware has a loads of development tools, libraries and headers installed by default, sure if ubuntu is a desktop distrobution dont install by default.. but give ppl the option04:00
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bob2lsuactiafner: sure, you do have the option to run synaptic post-install04:00
bob2you didn't see how much effort they put into cutting the number of install questions down04:01
pixil9I'd look at gentoo or FreeBSD if you want to use ports to compile your own packages04:01
frank_lsuactiafner, people can install whatever they want. build-essentials takes care of most things you need04:01
bob2they are *really* not going to add a "do you want five million dev packages installed?" question :)04:01
transgresswoohoo got psi installed finally04:01
lsuactiafnerit only takes care of the programming languages, not the headers and libraries04:02
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transgresssomething i had run had my sources.list open and i couldn't get the other sources added04:02
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geargolemwould it make sense to change xserver to xfree86 for my chipset?04:02
lsuactiafnerits more difficult to compile on ubuntu than it is on redhat.04:02
frank_lsuactiafner, then install everything under the sun. everything I needed was available04:02
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bretzelSince December 2004, I think I've installed-reinstalled  and played and scrapped at least 10 times my ubuntu installations, thus I am a bit used to go synaptic for grabbing all dev tools I need and tell that it is lots of pkgs, but works very well and that is ok for me04:02
lsuactiafnerok i cant find libglib1.2-dev anywhere?04:02
frank_its there04:03
bob2libglib1.2-dev - Development files for GLib library04:04
bob2perhaps you didn't enable univer04:04
frank_lsuactiafner, so a name search in synaptic04:04
bob2wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto04:04
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geargolemWhat would happen if I changed my kernel from xserver to xfree8604:05
geargolem?04:05
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bob2what do you mean?04:06
frank_geargolem, I don't understand your question.04:06
pixil9lol04:06
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pixil9you mean change from xorg to xfree86?04:06
pixil9which has nothing to do with your kernel04:06
TestDummyFinally, I got it to install :D . Works pretty nice.04:07
ice_1963ok04:07
geargolemfrank_ xfree86 supports the SIS driver, xserver does not04:07
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TestDummyEr, but I'm forgetting. How do I mount an ntfs drive as read-only?04:08
bob2you're confused04:08
pixil9wtf is xserver?04:08
pixil9xorg you mean?04:08
frank_geargolem, you mean xorg does not?04:08
rempresentewhitten:  alright, i just got done doing all that installing and i changed the line in my .conf file.. am i ready to do04:08
bob2xfree86 *is* an xserver04:08
rempresentanyone?04:08
hexmodehello?04:08
pixil9TestDummy, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdx /ntfs04:08
pixil9x being the partition #04:08
TestDummyEr, I mean04:08
hexmodecan anybody recommend a good 802.11g pci card?04:08
rempresentcan anyone help me with dual monitors?04:08
TestDummyOkay, I know it's hda1.04:08
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pixil9well mkdir /ntfs or something04:08
pixil9and mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /ntfs04:09
geargolemno.  it uses nvidia instead frank_04:09
TestDummyAnd I remember when I tried out Kubuntu, I added a line to /etc/fstab (Or whatever its called) using nano.04:09
pixil9or just put it in /etc/fstab04:09
TestDummyWhat's the line?04:09
pixil9ya.04:09
lsuactiafnerthanks found libglib now..04:09
lsuactiafnerhope the compile works out now04:09
rempresentalright, i am just going to give it a go04:09
rempresenteh?04:09
pixil9/dev/hda1 /ntfs umask=0222,ro 0 004:09
hexmodeerm.... no recs.04:09
pixil9then mount -a04:09
pixil9oops04:10
lsuactiafnerstill same error04:10
frank_geargolem, SIS integrated graphics you mean? Youre sure xorg doesnt support it?04:10
TestDummyEr..04:10
pixil9/dev/hda1 /ntfs ntfs umask=0222,ro 0 004:10
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bob2lsuactiafner: remove config.cache04:10
pixil9/dev/hda1       /winxp          ntfs    umask=0222,rw 0 004:10
pixil9that's mine04:10
ShadowRagehow do I mount the cdrom in shell mode on the install cd?04:10
pixil9mount /cdrom04:10
TestDummyEr... /winxp ??04:11
ShadowRagepixil9: some reason, ubuntu isnt detecting the cdrom04:11
TestDummyI remember it being something else04:11
ShadowRageno one will answer why either04:11
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pixil9TestDummy, Put it wherever the fuck u want04:11
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TestDummyOh04:11
lsuactiafnerused clean source and did ldconfig, not working04:11
bob2ShadowRage: yes, it's a conspiracy04:11
mebaran151acidrip of dvdrip04:11
frank_geargolem, I just found that xorg supports sis so there is a way04:11
pixil9ShadowRage: it's not in dmesg?04:11
mebaran151which is better04:11
FR500hello04:11
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bob2ShadowRage: or maybe you found a bug.  are you using hoary?04:11
mebaran151mencoder or transcoder04:11
FR500anyone uses cacti here?04:11
mebaran151and04:11
rempresentalright, now can i check my graphics driver... with the gears thing04:11
rempresent?04:11
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mebaran151how do output from evolution my addressbook04:12
mebaran151I need to do a reinstall04:12
geargolemfrank_  how?  I'ved tried everything04:12
ShadowRagebob2: warty04:12
mebaran151because stuff got borked04:12
ShadowRagepixil9: hrmm04:12
ShadowRageforgot dmesg04:12
TestDummyEr... rw? I think read-only should work.04:12
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transgresswow dvd's don't play too well04:12
transgressthat sucks04:12
XTCboarder!!04:12
XTCboarder:(04:12
mebaran151anyway04:12
XTCboarderXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:12
XTCboarder:(:(04:12
bob2ShadowRage: then get a hoary cd04:12
mebaran151anyone know how to make evolution output my addressbook04:12
mebaran151to like a 5 kb vcard file04:12
rempresentis this good: 1130 frames in 5.0 seconds = 226.000 FPS04:12
mebaran151like Knotacts does04:12
bob2XTCboarder: try to put a complete sentence on each line04:12
rempresentin glxgears04:13
ShadowRageeasier said than done04:13
bob2XTCboarder: you have an nvidia or ati card?04:13
XTCboardersorry04:13
frank_geargolem, I don't know exactly how but what does not work now? video acceleration? or nothing works at all?04:13
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XTCboardernvidia04:13
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bob2XTCboarder: did you follow the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?04:13
pixil9ShadowRage, no go?04:13
lsuactiafnerrempresent : try 6000 frames+-04:13
pixil9How can I submit a howto?04:13
mebaran151so anyone help me04:14
XTCboardernope...04:14
mebaran151how do I export my addressbook from evolution04:14
XTCboarderlet's read04:14
bob2pixil9: put it on the wiki04:14
bob2XTCboarder: try that04:14
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ShadowRagepixil9: I'll look via dmesg04:14
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pixil9o.04:14
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rempresentisuactiafner: shoot...04:14
mebaran151Evolution doesnt give me good instructions04:14
mebaran151unless it will allow me to make an LDAP dataabase04:14
mebaran151which I dont know how to do04:14
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transgressdo you mount dvd's to play them or do you play them like audio cd's?04:15
pixil9I wanna put a unreal tournament 1 FAQ up for people who don't have CD204:15
rempresentisuactiafner: did i install it correctly... i followed this guys instructions, installed like 3 packages, and now i am stuck with crappy framerates04:15
pixil9like me04:15
bob2transgress: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, either way04:15
XTCboarder!!04:15
geargolemfrank_  glxgears does not, blender...04:15
rempresentisuactiafner:  so... are you willing to help tweak this b-word04:15
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XTCboarderbob2 .. cat: /proc/pci: No such file or directory04:15
bob2XTCboarder: use lspci instead04:16
braz2kuk12anyone any news on usplash04:16
bob2no04:16
frank_glxgears doesn't work at all? or just works slowly?04:16
XTCboarderit doesn't work04:16
rempresentworks slowly04:16
rempresentfor me04:16
rempresentit is a bword04:16
bob2XTCboarder: "doesn't work" is not something anyone can help with04:16
transgressherm...  alrighty... well it just seems that it locks mplayer up...04:16
transgresstrying to play a dvd04:16
rempresent1695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 339.000 FPS04:17
geargolemnot at all, frank_04:17
transgresskaffeine will do it w/ no sound...04:17
transgressand laggy04:17
menghi, i am having issues building my kernel modules for the ati drivers04:17
XTCboarderi mean, it won't turn on the opengl thingie04:17
HrdwrBoBmeng: it's packaged04:17
braz2kuk12regarding slow play iwth mplayer and xine, i removed the gstreamer dvd plaugin using synpatic and that fixed it :)04:17
bob2meng: you don't need to build them04:17
HrdwrBoBther's no need to build them04:17
lsuactiafnerright now i'm trying to figure out why its damn near impossible to compile 30% of the source out there without sacrificing 7 ants and 3 cats.04:17
bob2meng: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:17
mengtried that04:17
bob2god I wish people would read the faq04:17
bob2lsuactiafner: can you be more vague?04:17
mengmy fglrxinfo still shows mesa as my open gl driver04:18
rempresenti don't know where one is...04:18
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meng bob2: my fglrxinfo still shows mesa as my open gl driver04:19
bretzelhum ... I am trying to install ( compiling snapshot of ) E17 and the "evas " pkg compiles with errors: un defined symbols at link time: ...../libevas.so: undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'04:19
frank_geargolem, never mind you probably have it already04:19
lsuactiafnerbob2 : xmms-1.2.1004:20
bob2lsuactiafner: or show us the error04:20
rempresentcan you still swap an ati card, with an nvidia, then it will recognize it on reboot?04:20
lsuactiafnerchecking for glib-config... /usr/bin/glib-config04:20
lsuactiafnerchecking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.2... no04:20
mengmy stupidity got me my radeon 960004:20
bob2lsuactiafner: dude04:20
bob2lsuactiafner: 1.2.10 is IN ubuntu already04:20
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lsuactiafneryeh but some archane place it seems04:21
bob2what does that mean?04:21
braz2kuk12codename next release of ubuntu??04:21
frank_geargolem, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf   to check if xorg is using the sis driver04:21
lsuactiafnerfirefox 1.0.3 installer also spits out errors04:21
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geargolemit is04:21
geargolemit is, frank_04:21
bob2lsuactiafner: did you paste those errors to #flood?04:21
bob2lsuactiafner: why are you trying to compile xmms?04:21
EpicenterI installed apache2 and then removed it and now want to install php4. But, it keeps trying to install it to the dirs for apache 2. How do I convince it I only have Apache *1*?04:21
lsuactiafnerit means xmms is looking everywhere for glib and cant find it since glib is somewhere it shouldnt be04:21
bob2lsuactiafner: also, apt-cache showsrc xmms04:21
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bob2lsuactiafner: no, it's not04:22
mengbob2: i tried following the wiki for the ati drivers04:22
bob2meng: cool04:22
lsuactiafnerbob2 : i prefer to compile my own software04:22
pixil9Epicenter: is apache2 completely removed?04:22
bob2lsuactiafner: why?04:22
bob2lsuactiafner: also, 12:21:56           bob2 | lsuactiafner: also, apt-cache showsrc xmms04:22
Epicenterpixil9: I apt-get --purge remove'ed it04:22
raydogghow can i burn my data encrypted to a dvd in the same fashion as i setup a block device encrytped with AES or such04:22
pixil9Epicenter, o04:22
frank_geargolem, what error message do you get while running glxgears?04:22
lsuactiafnerbob2 : -O304:22
bob2lsuactiafner: haha04:22
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bob2lsuactiafner: xmms is a significant cpu hog on your machine?04:23
lsuactiafnerPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:23
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pixil9Epicenter, libapache-mod-php4 ?04:23
bob2lsuactiafner: again, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto04:23
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pixil9Epicenter, don't use libapache2-mod-php404:23
Epicentertrying that now04:23
bob2lsuactiafner: it's pretty rich to complain stuff doesn't work when you ignore the help people give you04:23
lsuactiafnerbob2 : my loads dont often go below 100%04:23
jordan_i havent had any apt-get upgrades in a week or two, is that normal?04:23
lsuactiafner 04:23:44 up  3:12, 14 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.09, 1.0704:24
bob2lsuactiafner: and xmmsis a significant portion of that?04:24
geargolemfrank_  I get xlib:  "GLX" missing on display : 0  004:24
kanuhaquestion, has anyone setup crossover office succsessfully?04:24
pixil9geargolem, Load glx in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:24
braz2kuk12yeh i use crossover office fine on hoary04:24
mengwine-config-sidenet04:24
Epicenterpixil9: when I browse to a .php file on the server it still tries to ask me to download it :P04:24
EpicenterI guess it didn't fully take04:24
pixil9Epicenter: did you use apache-mod-php?04:25
frank_geargolem, Section "Module"  is Load"glx" there?04:25
bob2lsuactiafner: did you know that -O3 often makes code slower?04:25
hypnojordan_ ubuntu only releases security patches and major bugfixes between releases04:25
Epicenterapache-mod-php404:25
bob2by increasing cache misses etc?04:25
geargolemfrank_ yes it is04:25
lsuactiafnerbob2 : what help? i did run apt-get install xmms, i did use synaptic.04:25
mengis firefox 1.0.3 out for debian or ubuntu yet?04:25
pixil9Epicenter: did you check the apache conf to see if it added php extensions?04:25
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Epicenterpxiil9: -mod doesn't seem to exist.04:25
pixil9libapache-mod-php04:25
pixil9is what you want.04:25
Epicenterit doesn't exist04:25
bob2lsuactiafner: 12:23:29           bob2 | lsuactiafner: again, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto04:25
pixil9yes it does04:25
jordan_hypno, Ohhhh okay, so the only way to get updates is breezy or backports?04:25
bob2lsuactiafner: you haven't read that page04:25
pixil9you need to update your sources04:26
jordan_i understand...04:26
frank_geargolem, I really don't know much about this. I don't know what to do04:26
hypnojordan_ that's right04:26
bob2lsuactiafner: if you had, you'd have enabled universe, then xmms would be available04:26
Epicenterdo I need universe?04:26
lsuactiafnerbob2 : in my opinion it makes it faster04:26
Epicenteror multiverse or what?04:26
lsuactiafneri do unroll loops also04:26
bob2lsuactiafner: haha04:26
mjc_anyone else running myth on ubuntu amd64? having problems w/ mythfrontend segfaulting04:26
kanuhabraz2kuk12, the install goes well, but when I try to configure the screen goes blank and my monitor goes to sleep. Did you do anything special to install beyond sh and the file name?04:26
HrdwrBoBlsuactiafner: your opinion worth slightly less than nothing04:26
lsuactiafnerbob2 : wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto doesnt open in lynx...04:26
bob2lsuactiafner: well, that's a shame04:26
jordan_hypno, how long does it take for the next release to become stable enough for an idiot to use?04:26
pixil9Epicenter, sec04:26
bob2lsuactiafner: try it in links or w3m or something04:26
mjc_links > lynx04:26
bob2lsuactiafner: and don't just not read things04:26
bob2lsuactiafner: if you can't open it, TELL ME04:27
geargolemthanks anyway frank_04:27
pixil9Epicenter, it's in universe04:27
bob2it's damn annoying if you just ignore parts of our conversation04:27
lsuactiafnerok so how do i enable universe? as far as i know /etc/apt/sources?04:27
bob2yes04:27
bob2blah04:27
hypnojordan_ no idea..04:27
Epicenterpixil9: I added universe and did apt-get update, it still can't be found04:27
bob2lsuactiafner: it opens in lynx fine here.  try again.04:27
jordan_hypno, thanks anyway04:27
mengbob2: could just enable it in synaptic04:27
geargolemfrank_ how do you comment out something on xorg.config?04:27
jordan_geargolem, #04:27
frank_geargolem, with a #04:28
mengbob2: just check the disabled sources04:28
pixil9well wtf I can see it fine.. and it says it's universe lol04:28
pixil9deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted04:28
pixil9deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:28
pixil9unless its on one of those?04:28
bob2meng: oh, good point04:28
bob2gah04:28
bob2pixil9: please don't use backports04:28
frank_do they backport to amd64 also? I haven't seen anything there yet04:29
bob2oh man04:29
mengbackports is a good thing04:29
bob2no they're not04:29
bob2they're broken and badly designed04:29
mengubuntu's gaim is riddiculously old04:29
mengold times 10004:29
pixil9meng: use those sources I just pasted.04:29
bob21.1.4 is ridiculously old?04:29
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pixil9it'll update ya to 1.2.104:29
Edganmeng: hoary's is 1.1.4 and there is only 1.2.0 and 1.2.1 which are newer04:29
jordan_bob2, oops really? i only used like 4 of them so i guess im okay...04:29
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jordan_bob2, mainly wesnoth04:30
Edganpixil9: 1.2.1 is in breezy and backports04:30
geargolemjordan_  where does the # go?04:30
mengit's OSS software after all04:30
Epicenterpixil9: So what should I be using?04:30
pixil9As you'll notice I just pasted backports sources.04:30
pixil9lol04:30
jordan_geargolem, before the line04:30
bob2jordan_: they will make upgrading to the next version of ubuntu harder04:30
pixil9but thanks for the info04:30
frank_geargolem, before the line starts. Look at the top of the file04:30
jordan_geargolem, # what i want to comment04:30
bob2meng: sure, but they're still broken and badly designed04:30
pixil9Epicenter: put them both in.04:30
ogragah, did i read backports ?04:30
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bob2people can do whatever they want, but when it breaks, you keep both pieces04:30
jordan_bob2, yay!04:30
ograhey bob204:30
mengi had my gaim source compiled04:30
ograbob2, your country is great, i love it..04:31
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bob2aloha04:31
jordan_bob2, what country?04:31
bob2ogra: oh, you're in sydney already?04:31
bob2jordan_: australia.04:31
ograyeah04:31
Edganyeah, gaim is one of those things you really can't let get too outdated. IM providers are constantly breaking things04:31
ograbob2, since monday...04:31
jordan_bob2, i would love to visit australia one of these days04:31
mengagree about the IM thing04:31
pixil9My bro is leavin there for a year in like 4 days04:31
mengtoo bad MSN's PM is not suppoted04:32
ograjordan_, you really should, its absolutely worth it04:32
pixil9too bad webcams don't work :(04:32
mengso as winks and nudges04:32
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mengbut nudges are more of an annoyance04:32
Edganmeng: PM?04:32
Edganpixil9: there is work on gaim-vv04:33
menglike the currently playing track in WMP or iTunes04:33
geargolemthank you for your help04:33
mengor some other msg after ur screenname04:33
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pixil9Edgan: supports webcam?04:34
Edganpixil9: working on msn webcam support04:34
pixil9i can't wait04:34
pixil9then i can toss windows04:34
mengthe official MSN client does webcams04:34
kanuhabraz2kuk12, did you use su or sudo when you installed cross-over?04:34
mengi can't toss my win yet, got games to play04:34
EpicenterSTILL Can't find libapache-mod-php04:34
Edganpixil9: who are you constantly webcaming with?04:35
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pixil9Edgan: girlfriend04:35
mengah04:35
Edganpixil9: tried playing with gnomemeeting?04:35
pixil9Edgan, no.. what is it04:35
frank_geargolem, check this out: http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsisvga.shtml04:35
Edganpixil9: video conferencing software for linux04:35
mengis there a way to install the official MSN client in linux?04:35
pixil9ah.. will it connect to her msn?04:35
kanuhapixil9, what brand webcam do you have?04:36
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pixil9kanuha: intel04:36
kanuhaWhich model?04:36
A_Alamcan some please help me, where i can add my langauge to ubuntu5.x for booting in LiveCD?04:36
Edganpixil9: probably not, but it might work with some standard windows video conferencing.04:36
felipe__meng you can use amsn or gaim04:36
pittiA_Alam: what language do you need? We don't support it yet?04:36
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pixil9Edgan, hmm might check itout04:36
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pixil9kanuha, i have no idea lol04:36
pittiA_Alam: usually you can select your language at the very first installation question04:37
pixil9it has a lens shutter04:37
mengfelipe__: i realize that, but there are times i needed the real client04:37
pixil9and says intel04:37
raydogghow do i mount an iso image to look like a block device ?04:37
pixil9o04:37
pixil9CS43004:37
A_Alampitti, Punjabi (pa_IN), not yet added04:37
Edganraydogg: mount file.iso /mnt/iso -o loop04:37
kanuhapixil9, on the bottom it should have the model. Mine is the cs33004:37
mengthe lang pack is not too good04:37
lsuactiafnerpixil9 : if usb lsusb -v04:37
frank_Men, maybe wine / crossover supports it I dont know04:37
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raydoggthx Edgan04:37
pittiA_Alam: indeed, we don't support this yet04:37
mengonly my date and time changed04:37
kanuhapixil9, I have a cs330 and cannot get it to work04:38
TestDummyBlah, I think I did..04:38
A_Alami can know there is 6 Indian lanaguage for which can added to release04:38
pixil9kanuha: haha we're probably screwed04:38
pixil9though a webcam costs like $20 these days04:38
A_Alamfor Gnome as well kde04:38
mengjust when i thought BM is easy to translate04:38
TestDummyI add the line to /etc/fstab to mount ntfs, but on reboot it says something like "mount point /media/windows does not exist"04:38
Edganpixil9: hehe, you might get away with msn messenger in VMware if the camera is usb104:38
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pixil9TestDummy, mkdir /media/windows04:39
pittiA_Alam: if you start to translate it in Rosetta, then one of the next language pack updates will contain your translations04:39
DoppelGangerTestDummy: truly you have earned your name04:39
TestDummyI have =|04:39
dazedwhat to do what to do04:39
pixil9heh my computer blows i don't think i'll be installing vmware04:39
TestDummyThis isn't the only time I've been an idiot04:39
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menghow can i join Rosetta?04:39
mengi'll like to work on the BM packs during the holidays04:39
ogrameng launchpad.ubuntu.com04:39
frank_BM?04:40
TestDummypixil9: Is that it if the line is already in /etc/fstab?04:40
mengBahasa Melayu, the official language of Malaysia04:40
A_Alampitti, language pack for Punjabi is there, but not include in menu at boot time, i use Rosetta04:41
frank_oh. I learn something new everyday04:41
pixil9TestDummy, I don't see why not04:41
pixil9just make the damn directory and type mount -a04:41
TestDummyOh, mount -a..04:41
pittiA_Alam: ah, right. The language needs to be added to the installer, too04:41
pixil9don't reboot04:41
pittiA_Alam: that's a job for Kamion04:41
pixil9mount -a will mount all devices in /etc/fstab04:41
TestDummyAh.04:41
TestDummyDidn't know that04:41
mengis there a way to correctly install lang packs?04:41
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A_Alampitti, i want to update liveCD for Punjabi, where can i find list for Language for it, where in 4.10 release is /boot/grub/lang.lst04:42
ogrameng, synaptic ?04:42
mengdid that, but only my date and time changed04:43
pixil9lol punjabi?04:43
TestDummyAha, there it is04:43
TestDummyIt works :)04:43
meng*itching for meruku04:43
pittiA_Alam: this has got nothing to do with grub, that's a debian-installer issue04:43
Epicenterpixil9: It absolutely cannot find this package04:44
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EpicenterPixil9: packages.ubuntu.org says it's in universe. apt-cache search disagrees04:44
XTCboarder!! help, i got gnome resolution settings at 800x600 but my creen says it is at 1600x120004:45
XTCboarderanybody know somethign about this problem?04:45
pixil9Epicenter: search libapache in synaptic04:46
pixil9i dunno thats where i see it :P04:46
A_Alampitti, i have ubuntu 4.10, there is /boot/grub/lang.lst file is there04:46
EpicenterPixil9: There is -php404:46
Epicenterbut not -php04:46
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interalia_hi.  sorry if this is a faq.. does anyone know how I can disable ubuntu trying to suspend etc. when I shut my laptop lid?04:47
pixil9ya04:47
pixil9of course you want php4!04:47
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danthemancan anyone tell me why my printing might be fuzzy, and slightly misplaced on a page?04:48
maxsideburnhi all04:48
maxsideburnCan anyone tell me what the most graphically advanced WM is for X?04:48
xfSxhi, can anyone tell me why my pc just blew up?04:48
|QuaD-maxsideburn: graphically advanced? explain what you mean by graphically advanced04:49
xfSxmaxsideburn, i'm not sure xfce or gnome, i'm new to the game04:49
Epicenterpixil9: I installed it. But when I click a link on the sites hosted it just tries to download the file :P04:49
mengxfSx: neglect and the lack of TLC?04:49
cens0redxfSx al qaeda?04:49
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xfSxlol04:49
pixil9Epicenter, Open your httpd.conf or whichever it is04:50
raydoggEdgan, what filesystem type should I use to mount file.iso ?04:50
pixil9Epicenter, Look at which extensions it has might have to add just .php04:50
b2sraydogg: iso966004:50
xfSxi think cens0red is closer to the truth04:50
Edganraydogg: -t iso966004:50
Epicenterpixil9: what line is that?04:50
cens0redxfSx tell us about it. Was it spectacular?04:50
EpicenterI added index.php04:50
maxsideburni meant are there any cool experimental WMs for X?04:50
maxsideburnlike with really advanced graphics, or special effects, or something really different04:50
pixil9Epicenter: I don't know the mod should of added it near the bottom04:50
xfSxwell i put in an ubuntu cd, and as it booted gnome it just blew up04:50
|QuaD-maxsideburn: the WM doesn't really determine your graphics04:51
xfSxwith a bit of smoke04:51
|QuaD-your xserver does04:51
raydoggsays bad superblock on /dev/loop4, should i create the iso in any special way ?04:51
xfSxi think my xserver meltdowned04:51
Epicenterpixil9: it isn't04:51
Epicenterpixil9: I'd put in a LoadModule line but I don't know the path to the .so04:51
|QuaD-maxsideburn: each WM has its use04:51
behhow can i capture screen shots of mplayers video?04:51
cens0redxfSx hmmm. Sounds like its time had come.04:51
xfSxyeah icewm is always talking about how it was abused as a child04:52
mengwhat was the WM which looks like winxp?04:52
cens0redI've been discovering the limits of my cpu fan since I started using ubuntu.04:52
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pixil9Epicenter, sec installing apache04:52
xfSxmy pc makes a noise it never made in xp when it's running glxgears04:52
pixil9Epicenter, send me a php file04:52
frank_the gears need to be oiled04:53
Epicenterpixil9: 1 sec04:53
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behdoes anyone know of an easy way to get screencaps from a video in mplayer04:54
Epicenterpixil9: try this04:54
Epicenterhttp://65.86.188.150/epicenter/index.php04:55
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|QuaD-beh: if you ask a third time, maybe i will know the answer04:55
pixil9connection refused04:55
beh|QuaD-: maybe someone who knew the answer didnt see my message the first time04:55
|QuaD-beh: maybe, thats why i suggested a thirdtime04:56
beh|QuaD-: or maybe you were just being sarcastic04:56
|QuaD-beh: nope, i was using your logice04:56
Epicenterpixil9: Try now04:56
|QuaD-beh: you should keep sending that message04:56
beh|QuaD- oh ok04:56
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pixil9works?04:56
|QuaD-cuz its possible someone didn't see your msg04:56
Epicenterpixil9: it's up, yes04:57
pixil9so what's the problem04:57
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hypnobeh set the -vo to x1104:57
hypnothen you should be able to grab it with gimp or whatever04:57
nickrudwell, I finally got around to setting up my  the mozilla multimedia setup :)04:58
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raydoggok, so how do i mount file.iso as a writable file system ?04:58
raydogg(I got the mount with iso9660 to work )04:59
nickrudI can play most of the things on http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/menu.html with mplayer embedded,04:59
raydoggI want to write files to this block device04:59
geneo93nickrud:  back04:59
nickrudbut not everything.04:59
nickrudgeneo93, hi04:59
nickrudSome I would need crossover, but I wanted to compare notes a bit04:59
mengnickrud: how did you get ur mozilla plugins to work?04:59
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mengi have the vlc plugins installed, but nothing gets streamed and it fails miserably in atomfilms05:00
nickrudFollowed the instructions on the wiki, and installed mozilla-mplayer and mozplugger.05:01
pixil9Epicenter, I'm running apache w/ libapache-mod-php4 without a problem..05:01
nickrudIf anyone else could look at those, and especially the linspire ones05:02
mengi tried mozilla-mplayer and mozpluger, it wont work too05:02
Epicenterpixil9: I can't seem to. :P05:02
Epicenterpixil9: send me your httpd.conf please?05:02
mengmainly coz i am using an AMD athlon xp05:02
Epicenterpixil9: or a .tar.gz your whole /etc/apache/ dir05:02
nickrud:P05:02
nickrudgeneo93, did you get your sound back?05:02
Juhazraydogg, I don't think you can write to iso966005:03
geneo93all my sound works except for kde sounds05:03
pixil9lol i just removed it05:03
nickrudgeneo93, you mean gnome sounds?05:03
geneo93aand gnome sounds05:04
pixil9hold on05:04
pixil9Epicenter, Why don't you remove it all and make sure the /etc/apache dirs are gone05:04
pixil9reinstall05:04
nickrudgeneo93, kde and gnome use different sound systems. I don't know if you can make kde use esd.05:04
Epicenterpixil9: I did05:05
geneo93the only thing i have on now is tv card05:05
nickrudgeneo93, never used one :)05:05
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geneo93nickrud:  mine is old wintv card with fm05:06
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goldfishAnyone here use xterm ?05:06
rempresentalright... i am back.. i now own a nvida graphics card05:06
pixil9Epicenter, All i did was install apache 1 and libapache-mod-php405:06
pixil9restarted apache05:06
pixil9worked perfect.05:06
rempresenta geforce 4 mx44005:06
Epicenterpixil9: so did I :P05:07
rempresentnow how do i install this b-word05:07
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nickrudyou take the case apart05:07
nickrud:)05:07
rempresentyar05:07
pixil9Epicenter: Ok well what extension is the file you're loading05:07
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geneo93rempresent:  i have that card in this working nicely05:08
pixil9http://68.147.151.46/phpsysinfo05:08
pixil9that work?05:09
pixil9oops05:09
pixil9http://68.147.151.46:888/phpsysinfo05:09
Epicenteryes.05:09
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borgistaI have an issue with my wireless-net card. A D-Link. Anyone with some experience with said card?05:10
pixil9Well05:10
rempresentgeneo93:  do you play WoW on it05:10
geneo93no05:10
pixil9Epicenter, Ok what is the extension of the file?05:10
Edganborgista: model?05:10
Epicenterpixil9: .php05:11
borgistaDWL-G52005:11
Edganborgista: rev?05:11
pixil9AddType application/x-httpd-php .php05:11
pixil9uncomment that05:11
pixil9restart apache05:11
geneo93freecraft is the only game i ever play05:11
borgistathe issue is that it comes up in my Device Manager yet not under 'Networking'05:11
borgistarev?05:11
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pixil9i dunno what else to say05:11
pixil9heh05:11
rempresentdang05:11
Edganborgista: yes, it will say on the card. Different revisions can be different chipsets05:11
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Epicenterpixil9: no luck05:11
pixil9are you're running /etc/init.d/apache restart05:12
pixil9?05:12
Epicenterpixil9: I see no line to load php4 in here05:12
Epicenterpixil9: killall apache, apache05:12
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borgistaLet me check.05:12
Epicenterrestarting the real way didn't help either05:12
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pixil9Epicenter: You never found AddType application/x-httpd-php .php ?05:13
pixil9fuck i have no idea :(05:13
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pixil9apache2 musta borked somethin05:14
thechitowncubsHey05:14
thechitowncubsHow can I install mencoder?05:14
borgistaEdgan: on the ubuntu wiki it says the chipset is Athereos AR521205:14
Edganborgista: looks like in generally the G520 uses the madwifi driver, which is part of ubuntu, under restricted models05:14
borgistaSo all I need is the restricted modules then.05:15
Epicenterpixil9: I did, an I uncommentedit05:15
thechitowncubswhen i try sudo apt-get install mencoder05:15
Epicenterpixil9: But there is no loadmodule line for php405:15
Edganborgista: if you don't have them installed, yeah05:15
thechitowncubsNothing works05:15
borgistaBecause the Wiki holds that it works "out-of-the-box"05:15
occyAre there any good easy to use DVD tools for Linux yet?05:15
borgistaso that must be it.05:15
GammaRaythechitowncubs: that's not a very descriptive complaint05:15
borgistaThank you Edgan05:15
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pixil9Epicenter, shouldn't that me in /etc/apache/modules.conf ?05:15
pixil9be*05:15
Epicenterpixil9: now that I check, it is05:15
geneo93thechitowncubs:  apt-get update05:15
Edganborgista: I made sure to have my wireless card plugged in when I installed ubuntu so that it would detect the card and set it up. I have a G65005:15
borgistaWill return.05:15
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membreyaanyone here running an amd64 kernel?05:16
Edganmembreya: I am, though not under ubuntu, yet05:16
frank_occy what do you need?05:16
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frank_membreya, yeah05:16
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nickrudthechitowncubs, did you get mplayer yet05:16
membreyafrank_: I can't get amd64-agp to load05:16
pixil9hahaha i just freaked my mom out with etherwake05:17
occyfrank_: some nice GUI tool that let's me do Firewire -> video under Linux05:17
membreyawhat AGP driver are you using?05:17
occyfrank_: clicky clicky05:17
Edganpixil9: how05:17
pixil9Edgan: She was in her office and I turned her computer on05:17
occyI have a DVD burner... I'd like to get stuff off my camera and put onto a DVD under Linux05:17
frank_occy, don't know about firewire but check out  tovid  for the whole consersion and authoring05:17
Edganpixil9: haha05:17
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occyk05:17
nickrudor, a better question, do you have mallirat's repo in your sources.list :)05:18
Edganfrank_: you have any 32bit installed on your 64bit system?05:18
frank_membreya, is that a module?05:18
frank_Edgan, yeah05:18
membreyafrank_: it is in the k7 kernel...05:18
membreyado you know what AGP driver you're loading?05:18
membreyawhat does lsmod |grep agp show?05:18
Edganfrank_: how does the 32bit chroot work out for you? I am fond of multi-arch, but ubuntu doesn't have it yet05:18
Edganmembreya: in my case, none, since I am using the nvidia driver05:19
frank_membreya, That lsmod gives me nothing yet video acceleration definitly works fine05:19
pixil9Time to install Medal of Honor05:19
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frank_Edgan, 32bit chroot works fine but takes some time setting up05:19
Epicenterpixil9: giving up on me then? ;(05:20
membreyafrank_: video acceleration doesn't work on my PC..i get 400 fps on glxgears running an amd64 3200 (geforce 4000)05:20
rempresentalright, i am back with news from the graphics driver05:20
geneo93membreya:  thats sad05:20
pixil9Epicenter, Well what can I do lol05:20
frank_membreya, do you have nvidia-glx installed?05:20
Epicentermm.05:20
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Edganmembreya: I get 6500fps with my amd64 3500 and geforce fx 5900se05:20
rempresentthis is what my glxgears is running at with the nvidia driver... at least i think i have it installed...05:20
rempresent808 frames in 5.0 seconds = 161.600 FPS05:20
membreyageneo93: it makes me cry05:21
membreyafrank_: sure do05:21
pixil9Epicenter, Unless I can ssh in or something05:21
rempresenthow can i check it?05:21
membreyathough I just changed my kernel so it isn't loaded05:21
Epicenterpixil9: I think it just needs a reinstall, sorry to say05:21
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computerguy867how does one get amd64 packeges such as acrobat and flash05:21
frank_membreya, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?05:21
DR_K13hi room05:21
Edgancomputerguy867: there is no 64bit flash, yet05:21
membreyayet? :P well hopefully adobe bring it out :)05:21
Edgancomputerguy867: not 64bit acrobat either05:21
raydoggEdgan, how can I mount file.iso as a writable file system ?05:21
Edgancomputerguy867: not that you  can't run the 32bit versions05:22
Edganraydogg: don't think you can05:22
raydoggwhen i mounted it as ISO 9660 it was read only05:22
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computerguy867how can you05:22
Edgancomputerguy867: 32bit chroot05:22
computerguy867if i add the marillat repositories it doesnt work05:22
computerguy86732bit chroot?05:22
frank_raydogg, considering its for CDs, read only seems fine to me!05:22
membreyagoing to steal my ex's 4400 see if it works :D05:22
Edganyeah, a directory structure that everything 32bit goes into, including libraries, so that it doesn't conflict with the 64bit files05:23
raydoggfrank_, I hear ya, but what I want to do is create a virtual block device05:23
rempresentwhat can i do instead of glx gears to check my graphics card05:23
rempresenti am getting really really low fps.. and i don't know what to do?05:23
raydoggSo i want to be able to mount file.iso as a block device05:23
computerguy867sounds messy05:23
pixil9Epicenter, Your whole box? lol05:23
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frank_Remenic, if glxgears is not fast nothing else will be05:23
raydoggI want to use cryptsetup on this "virtual block device"05:24
Epicenterpixil9: it seems I've created quite a mess, yes.05:24
pixil9haha05:24
frank_Rempresent, if glxgears is not fast nothing else will be05:24
pixil9doesn't take that long anyway i guess05:24
Epicenterand that's all this machine does, run apache05:24
Edgancomputerguy867: yeah, it is, and will later be replaced with multi-arch, which puts stuff in parallel, but debian/ubuntu don't have it yet. Plus in some cases multi-arch has problems a chroot doesn't05:24
rempresentfrank_:  what can i do to check out what is wrong, or check my driver...05:24
pixil9haha i'm installing medal of honour through a samba share to a windows box that's mounting the bin & cues with daemon tools05:24
computerguy867when is this expected to get better?05:24
geneo93rempresent: mine is dual ps with 440mx and i get around 900 fps05:24
computerguy8676 months?05:25
rempresentfrank_:  i just installed the nvidia driver, or so i thought, and i don't know why there isn't an increase in performance.05:25
Edgancomputerguy867: at the rate they seem to be going, and that it depends on debian doing it first, who knows05:25
frank_rempresent, , sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?05:25
Epicenterpixil9: can you upload or send me your etc/apache/ dir?05:25
EpicenterThat may help05:25
computerguy867i see, well thanks for your help05:25
pixil9Epicenter, ok05:25
rempresentfrank_:  i did that, how do i restart x to check out the new performance05:25
pixil9Epicenter, So all i have is apache and libapache-mod-php405:25
Edgancomputerguy867: there are howtos of how to setup the chroot05:25
pixil9to let you know05:25
Epicenterpixil9: i know.05:25
computerguy867ok, ill check em out05:25
rempresentgeneo93:  i have the same card and i get like 200fps05:26
geneo93rempresent:  ctrl alt backspace05:26
frank_alt-ctrl-F1,  login,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:26
frank_rempresent, alt-ctrl-F1,  login,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:26
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Mestaphelesanybody noticed that ubuntuppc.webplazahosting.com is down?  Think this is permanent?05:27
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Edganmaybe it moved05:27
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thenewlaxyo05:28
MestaphelesI hope its somewhere, I there are people who wrote some good guides05:28
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frank_Edgan, did you try to use nvclock?05:28
Edganfrank_: no05:29
rempresenti got it to work, i saw the nvidia logo at boot05:29
rempresentthanks a ton guys, that just took like 4 hours of my life....05:29
XTCboarder:(05:29
rempresentit is worth it tooo see that freakin' logo05:29
geneo93hi a_blyss05:29
thenewlaxhow would i get Ubuntu to recognize another hard drive that is in my comp?05:29
Epicenterpixil9: uploading them?05:29
thenewlaxim kinda a noob..05:29
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XTCboardermy monitor is acting funny :(05:29
geneo93rempresent:  what frame rates you have now05:29
rempresentabout 2600 fps05:30
thenewlaxcan anyone help me out?05:30
rempresentthis is sweet... now for WoW05:30
Juhazthenewlax, define recognize, do you want to access the file systems on that other hard drive?05:30
rempresentthanks a ton frank and geneo05:30
rempresent!05:30
thenewlaxyea05:30
geneo93np05:30
XTCboarderi can't set correctly my screen resolution after I installed my screen05:30
thenewlaxlike so i can store stuff on there05:30
frank_Edgan, it's a tool to overclock a nvidia card but it only segfaults for me05:30
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rempresentwha wha wha... how do i go about overclocking the card frank05:31
rempresent?05:31
Edganfrank_: I don't have a need to overclock.05:31
Epicenterpixil9: thanks :)05:31
thenewlaxbut yea05:31
pixil9Epicenter, np05:31
pixil9Epicenter, mom was buggin me heh05:31
Juhazthenewlax, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:31
geneo93frank_:  got it to work in mandrake haven't tried in ubuntu yet05:31
frank_rempresent, good to see it works05:31
rempresentthanks a bunch05:31
rempresentno joke05:31
qmananyone using the 1.0.3 ipw2200 driver?05:32
thenewlaxill check it out05:32
IIIEARS"" - screen trouble what command edits screen settings?05:32
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pixil9Almost MoH time!!!05:33
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pixil9what other good games can i install on linux05:33
DanglyBitsis mozilla-firefox 1.0.3 available yet?  If not when?05:33
geneo93ablyss:  you having nick problems05:33
DarthFrogpixil9: Quake3 Doom305:33
DR_K13lol05:33
thenewlaxthats Juhaz05:33
pixil9DanglyBits, Is it absolutely necessary for you to have 1.0.3?05:33
thenewlaxthanks*05:33
frank_DanglyBits, it wont be available in Hoary05:33
pixil9Hmm Doom3 sounds fun.. will my 1ghz cpu do it?05:33
DanglyBitswhy?05:34
DanglyBitsfrank_:why?05:34
nickrudthechitowncubs, you still here?05:34
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frank_DanglyBits, beacause hoary will only get security updates from now on05:34
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DanglyBitsfrank_:where can i get it then?05:35
pixil9DarthFrog, What cpu do i need for doom3?05:35
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frank_DanglyBits, from breezy? I\m not sure...05:35
DanglyBitsfrank_: where do i get breezy?05:35
frank_pixil9, Video card is the big issue for any new game05:35
qmanI think the 2.6.10-5 headers are screwed05:35
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pixil9frank: i got a geforce 2 pro :P05:36
qmanwhy else would it report "SMP"?05:36
frank_DanglyBits, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=7005:36
frank_pixil9, my guess is that Doom3 will give 2 fps05:36
Juhazfrank_, firefox 1.0.3 is a security update05:37
chavomaybe a bit more than 2 fps, but it will be way slow.05:37
frank_Juhaz, yeah but I think the way it works is that they make a patch of the security update to firefox 1.0.205:38
pixil9frank_, lol.05:38
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pixil9Well ut1 runs fine05:38
pixil9and moh05:38
IIIEARSUnreal tournament/UT2k3/2k4 works fine works fine05:38
frank_bah I used to play duke3d at like 7fps !05:38
dazedwelll adios membreya05:38
dazedduke3d05:39
dazedi had every expansion pack and every book to duke3d05:39
dazedi still do05:39
IIIEARSthough it can be difficult to install if you are new to linux - i tried and gave up05:39
IIIEARSut2k4 includes an .sh install script with the DVD vers. - (CD vers. too?)05:40
frank_Nobody steals our chicks.... and lives!05:40
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darkauditIIIEARS: cd ver too...05:40
IIIEARSgreat! :)05:40
darkauditlooks very much like the loki installers I've seen for other games05:40
dazed"i came here to do 2 things...kick ass and chew bubble gum...looks like im all outta gum"05:41
frank_I'm gonna rip of your head and **** down your throat05:41
burneris duke3d out for linux?05:41
IIIEARSthere hasn't been anything like duke nukem for humor - lol05:42
geneo93dazed:  sounds like something my 12 yr old son would do05:42
burnerit's open source now right?  maybe it'll work with cedega?05:42
frank_Yeah its open source now05:42
darkauditthere was a project on icculus' page, but they look to be in a very bitter mood about it05:42
burneri bet it's worth it to try the dos version with linux05:42
frank_I haven't played it recently though05:42
burneror even just wine05:42
IIIEARSduke nukem is - duke nukem 2 3d is a ghostly apparition always just beyond the horizon. - lol05:43
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Juhazburner, http://icculus.org/duke3d/05:44
darkauditwhat's bigger vaporware... Duke Nukem Forever or that WinFS thingy... orig. announced circa 1990?05:44
pixil9wicked05:44
pixil9where can i download duke3d05:44
pixil9oh cvs05:44
pixil9fuck thats too much work05:45
bur[n] ercvs? u can get win32 binaries05:45
darkauditpixil9: and they don't want to hear from anyone about it05:45
pixil9ya i see now05:45
pixil9<-- too lazy05:45
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brazmetaldoes someone here streams audio on the net?05:46
brazmetaldoes someone here stream audio on the net?05:46
bur[n] ersure05:46
bur[n] ernot in linux05:46
darkauditbrazmetal: incoming or outgoing?05:46
bur[n] erbut i heard icecast works?  with a bmp plugin?05:46
bur[n] eror xmms plugin05:46
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beowuffWhat's a good normalizer pluggin for xmms?05:47
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brazmetaldarkaudit, outgoing... providing a radio05:47
brazmetalI use shoutcast05:47
darkauditnot I05:47
brazmetalAnd the "sc_trans" program05:47
geneo93beowuff:  xmms-normalize05:47
brazmetalbut I want a alternative to sc_trans, cause it's very limited05:48
discordanyone know how to get a prism card working in ubuntu?05:48
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IIIEARSHow do i install DeCSS.deb after loading it into fileroller?05:48
burnerbrazmetal, apt-get install xmms-volnorm05:48
frank_sudo dpkg -i DeCSS.deb05:48
discorddo I have to recompile my kernel to get my pcmcia card working?05:48
darkauditIIIEARS: first, you don't need file-roller... it's dpkg -i05:48
pixil9Has anyone here used zoph?05:48
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mengand people wonder why ubuntu isn't widely used.....05:49
IIIEARSfrank - aw frank thats too easy - lol - you might guess i am new to linux eh?05:49
FR500i have cacti on one pc for network monitoring, what do i need in each pc, snmp or snmpd?05:49
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burnerit might be nice to have an app to use to open .deb files with, but dpkg -i works05:49
=== darkaudit had to compile a new kernel to get nVidia drivers w/ Debian... not so w/ Ubuntu :)
frank_IIIEARS, everyone was a newbie once05:50
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burneropen .deb with "xterm -e "dpkg -i $1"" ??05:50
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burneri was thinking there's gotta be some easy scripting like way to do that05:50
IIIEARSsomething like this dpkg >> configure >> make >> make install - ?05:50
burner?05:51
frank_IIIEARS, ?05:51
FR500can anyone help me?05:51
darkauditnearly midnight... bedtime for bozo05:51
burnerFR500, no idea on snmp05:51
IIIEARSlol - it isn't easy being green - grin05:51
brazmetalburner, xmms-volnorm? what is it for? to normalize the volume of the songs? I don't need that..05:51
IIIEARSThank You :)05:51
burnerbrazmetal, what were you looking for then?05:52
frank_np05:52
burnerbrazmetal, apt-cache search xmms05:52
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FR500burner, thanks anyway05:52
Sim2hi05:52
Sim2can someone help me out with forwarding localhost:26 to smtp.gmail.com:465 with stunnel so I can get ssl wrappers?05:53
Sim2i want postfix'x smtp client to use stunnel when a mail is defined in the transport map to go outside the domain.05:53
discordI thought hoary had wireless covered05:53
discordguess not05:53
brazmetalburner, I was looking for a plugin to stream audio...05:53
bur[n] erhoary works with wireless... doesn't do wpa and it doesn't show you networks around you05:54
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bur[n] erbrazmetal: icecast.org05:54
lamontSim2: define a new transport that uses the pipe mailer to shove it down stunnel05:54
lamontand make that the default transport05:54
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bur[n] erxmms-liveice and icecast-server05:54
discorddoesnt work with the two cards I have05:54
dazeddiscord: it works with wireless and so does warty...you just have to install your own drivers with ndiswrapper if its not a linux chipset05:54
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discordlooks like ill have to05:54
discordrecompile my kernel05:55
discordi dont know anyone that05:55
Sim2lamont, what would it look like in inetd.conf as the forwarding rule?05:55
dazeddiscord: your blowing things outta porportion05:55
discorduses the ndiswrapper with prism2 cards05:55
dazedwhat kind of wifi cards do you have?05:55
discordprism2 cards are pretty standard05:55
discordsome of the first chipset05:55
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dazeddo u know the chipset they use?05:55
discordthey make 2 drivers for the prism2 chipset05:55
Sim2smtps stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/stunnel -v3 -rlocalhost:2505:56
discordhostap05:56
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discordand wlan-ng05:56
Sim2err something like that05:56
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dazedalright get them and ndiswrapper....05:56
discordneither of which are included with05:56
Sim2s/25/2605:56
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lamontSim2: /etc/postfix/master.cf, see master(5)05:56
bet0xhi all people05:56
bur[n] erdiscord: linux-wlan-ng05:56
discordbullshit05:56
discordsomeone05:56
bet0xHow i automount a partition05:56
lamontSim2: and pipe(8postfix)05:56
membreyainstalled a new module, how would I go about reinstalling the nvidia drivers?05:56
dazeddiscord: try typing things on 1 line makes things easier to read05:56
discordthey should be part of ubuntu05:56
membreyaerm, installed a new kernel even05:56
Sim2thanks, let me take a look05:57
dazeddiscord: thats like saying all distros should be created around ur hardware05:57
XplOzIonHello All05:57
transgressanyone know why i can get sound from everything except kaffeine... and kaffeine is the only thing that will play dvd's w/o freezing...05:57
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bur[n] erwell... wireless networking drivers is pretty important05:57
bur[n] eryou can't download other stuff without network05:57
discordno im just saying that ubuntu should support the prism2 chipset since it is one of the most widley available chipsets05:57
brazmetaldoes someone here stream via Icecast/shoutcast?05:58
dazedif you have a wireless network im sure theres a lan port relatively close that u can click into05:58
discordall they had to do was include some modules with the distro05:58
bur[n] ernot always... but yeah... prism2's are so prominent05:58
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dazedbroadcom is probably one of the broadest chipsets and its not included...its a easy task to ndiswrapper a drvier i dunno why its such a big deal to u05:58
smouchesoundcards, wireless and 3d seem to be the big three problems with hardware compatibility -- you either get lucky, or you have to get to work05:58
smoucheto get it all to work...05:58
bur[n] erdiscord: linux-wlan-ng was included here05:59
discord?05:59
bur[n] eri didn't apt-get it and i have it05:59
discordwhich modules do you have05:59
dazedtook me maybe 5 minutes to config my wireless card05:59
bur[n] erhrm05:59
bur[n] ernot sure05:59
amonkeywhat's the /dev/ address of my serial port?05:59
transgressbleh i still need to write to do billing but i would really rather write a wiki doc05:59
discordI found this module05:59
XplOzIonbrazmetal, i do stream from soutcast05:59
discord/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wlan-ng # lsp80211.ko05:59
XplOzIonshoutcast**05:59
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discordbut that doesnt seem to be the driver i dont know what it is06:00
brazmetalXplOzIon, and what's the program you use to encoder ?06:00
Sim2lamont, can i pm you for just a sec?06:00
brazmetalXplOzIon, sc_trans ?06:00
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burner/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/prism2/prism2_usb.ko06:00
burner/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/prism54/prism54.ko06:00
pixil9What's a good webmail setup?06:01
XplOzIonbrazmetal, dont know really, bmp just plays it06:01
Sim2i thought i had to just change the relay to localhost:<someport>06:01
Sim2then it would just be forwarded to someplace:46506:01
brazmetalXplOzIon,  bmp ?06:02
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XplOzIonbrazmetal, beep media player06:02
brazmetalXplOzIon, how do you "transport" the sound to the shoutcast?06:02
lamontSim2: sure06:02
burnerit's xmms based on gtk206:02
membreyaive done a sudo apt-get remove nvidia and nvidia-settings and reinstalled them whilst running the new kernel, yet sudo modprobe nvidia says it's not found06:03
membreya:|06:03
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brazmetalXplOzIon, but how? xmms just plays songs...06:03
burnerbrazmetal, use xmms-liveice and icecast-server06:03
discordunfortunatly those prism2 modules do not support the prism2 pcmcia cards06:03
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burnerprism2_pcmcia06:03
brazmetalburner, I'm using shoutcast... I can't put icecast working06:04
dazedhow do u change ur smb workgroup?06:04
XplOzIonbrazmetal, beep media player (bmp) its like xmms (and some may say way better) and it streams from shoutcast from default instalation06:04
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discordyeah i dont see a prism2_pcmcia module06:04
abinadidanybody running xlink kai ???? some help06:04
brazmetalXplOzIon, the package name iso bmp ?06:04
brazmetalXplOzIon, isn't it a plugin that Bmp uses?06:05
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transgressgrar at things that don't list their licenses where i can find them06:05
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membreyaare there restricted modules available for amdk8 2.6.11 ?06:05
XplOzIonbrazmetal, yeah, it installed from a script that its posted on www.ubuntuforums.org06:05
XplOzIonbrazmetal, none of the plugins in bmp says its for streaming =/06:06
XplOzIonbrazmetal, let me check for the url of it06:06
dazedhow do u change ur smb workgroup?06:06
pixil9dazed: I'd suggest installing swat and going from there.06:07
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pixil9dazed: basically install it with synaptic then goto http://localhost:90106:08
dazedpixil9: thanks...it was sooo much easier on warty06:08
pixil9ah i never used warty06:08
dazedahh ok06:08
pixil9i went slack freebsd debian ubuntu06:08
pixil9heh06:08
XplOzIonbrazmetal, here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646 you may find most of the usefull/best apps used06:08
XplOzIonbrazmetal, i hope that shoul help you06:08
dazedit was in net-admin on warty...they took it out in hoary06:08
Sim2sorry for the pm.. i thought "sure" meant something else06:08
transgressdoes kubuntu come with gnome and kde?06:09
membreyatransgress: kde only06:09
membreyahence the K06:09
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transgressmembreya: well it didn't quite make it clear on the site...06:10
transgressi should've gone with kubuntu heh... i do prefer kde somewhat... but oh well... do me good to go for a change06:10
TuxicityShould I mount my 2nd HDD in /mnt or in /media ?06:10
pixil9cool gnomebaker.. been looking for a damn cd burning program06:10
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pixil9Tuxicity, wherever the hell you want.. mine is /winxp06:10
TuxicityWhat's the difference between /mnt and /media?06:11
FR500is anyone using snmp on a linux machine?06:11
XplOzIonAnyone know how to install bmp-docklet-1.2 plugin?? i cant install it...06:11
pixil9Tuxicity, Nothing. They're called "directories"06:11
dazedTuxicity: they are just mounting directories...you cant mount anywhere not just those 2 places06:11
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HrdwrBoBmedia makes more sense06:11
membreyapixil9: k3b is so much better06:12
FR500XplOzIon, you need to apt-get the dependencies dpkg tells you to06:12
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dazedk3b owns06:12
dazedall06:12
scottanyone had problems installing gnome icon themes on hoary? I install them and they show up in the menu but when I select them they don't take effect06:12
pixil9membreya, for burning?06:13
scorpix_when i try to install mplayer i got this problem06:13
scorpix_mplayer-custom: Depends: libavcodec2 but it is not installable06:13
dazedscorpix_: try 'apt-get -f install' to install dependancy packages06:13
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scorpix_dazed: i got the same problem06:14
frank_is there another mplayer package (non custom)06:14
dazedscorpix_: try this for me 'sudo apt-get install libavcodec2'06:14
scorpix_yes06:14
pixil9membreya, Will it work with gnome?06:15
jayhelp: GNOME works like crap on my dual displays.... it's recognizing it as one BIG display. is there any workaround for this?06:15
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XplOzIonFR500, i actually havent do anything. I mean like what file i need to open? wich file tells me that i need the dependences?06:15
scorpix_The following packages have unmet dependencies:06:15
scorpix_  libavcodec2: Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed06:15
scorpix_               Depends: libvorbisenc2 (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed06:15
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membreyapixil9: yes it will06:16
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dazedwell you can download each individual package if -f install isnt working or you can do a dif. mplayer package06:16
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dazedscorpix_: if your using synaptic it should auto select dependencies06:16
chombeeI don't suppose anyone know how to make SoundJuicer rip faster? It's excruciatingly slow on every machine I've tried, both Warty and Hoary, and I've never found a solution06:17
pixil9membreya, ok thx06:17
chombeeI turned paranoia down to 0 and managed to get it up to 3.0x, but that's all06:17
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corvus_Hope this isn't a stupid question, but is there a gui utility to allow for the listing and stopping of running processess?06:18
kkathmangreetings all :)06:18
frank_streamtuner ROCKS!06:18
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scorpix_dazed: the same with synaptic06:18
scorpix_how can i play dvds without mplayer?06:18
Tuxicitycorvus_, System Monitor in Applicatioins --> System tools06:18
scorpix_i have xine installed and libdvdcss206:18
XplOzIonscorpix_, xine-ui - The xine video player, user interface for playing dvd's and such06:18
leek`_-can someone help me with what would seem to be a simple problem? - im trying to change my resolution but the highest option i have is 1024x76806:18
dazedscorpix_: odd must not have all your repos open then or something...and xine-ui plays dvds06:19
mengmess around with xorg.connf?06:19
leek`_-meng, yea i added the higher res' tot xorg.conf06:19
kkathmanleek`_: during the install, did you select the various resolutions you could use?06:19
leek`_-kkathman, during installation i wasnt asked, but i have added them to my xorg.conf06:20
kkathmanleek`_- I assume you tried right clicking the desktop, going to configure and choosing the display?06:20
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corvus_Tuxicity, you rule, thanks :)06:20
kkathmanleek`_- or used the system tools to change your resolution06:20
leek`_-yea from the system tools 1024x768 is the highest it goes06:21
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leek`_-rightclicking desktop doesnt give me any configuring options06:21
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chombeeleek - did you just upgrade to hoary?06:21
Tuxicitycorvus_, np:)06:21
frank_leek`_-, need to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:21
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kkathmanleek`_- sorry I was thinking KDE06:21
leek`_-chombee, i just did a fresh install of whatever the latest version is06:21
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leek`_-frank_, what else do i need to modify in xorg.conf ?06:21
=== XplOzIon Wants to install bmp-docklet but cant because its a linux no0b
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kkathmanleek`_- check with your monitor specs and be sure you have the appropriate match between resolutions and the sync frequencies too06:22
leek`_-kkathman, im not exactly sure what that means or how i could go about doing that06:22
leek`_-kkathman, i just know 1600x1200 works on windows and i want it on here06:23
frank_leek`_-, The resolutions and the display specs  HorixFreg, VertSync06:23
kkathmanleek`_- in your xorg.conf you have resolutions and you have horiz and vert frequencies...some resolutions require or allow certain frequencies while others do not...check the specs that came with your monitor/panel06:23
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chombeeAm I going crazy? Am I the only Ubuntu user who has noticed it takes an hour to rip a CD??06:24
leek`_-kkathman, my xorg.conf doesnt contain anything about horz or vert frequencies, should it?06:24
burnerchombee, turn off the error checking in grip06:24
kkathmanleek`_- it should I believe06:24
frank_leek`_-, In some section its there06:25
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leek`_-frank_, its actually not, 1 sec while i upload my xorg.conf06:25
frank_Generic Monitor or somethin06:25
CitizenKaneif anyone has installed the linux version of wolfenstein enemy territory you might be able to help me06:25
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kkathmanleek`_- try this maube this will help:  http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/xorg.conf.5.html06:26
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brazmetalXplOzIon, hey.. it's no working... I'm using bmp + shoutcast.... and there's no audio stream :(06:26
pixil9How can i find out which packages I don't need?06:26
frank_leek`_-, Section Monitor06:26
pixil9deborphan isn't doing shit06:26
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leek`_-frank_, http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=3799706:26
leek`_-kkathman, i will check it out06:26
leek`_-frank_, am i retarded?06:27
XplOzIonbrazmetal, hmmm its weird, when you click on the "link" it says that it will be opened by bmp by default?06:27
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chombeeburner - disable paranoia?06:27
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brazmetalXplOzIon, man, did you understand what I want to do? I want to stream audio, not to listen to stream...06:28
brazmetalXplOzIon, I want to provide a radio, not listening to...06:29
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XplOzIonbrazmetal, oh im sorry man! i miss understand you! =(06:29
brazmetaleheheheheh06:30
brazmetal:(06:30
brazmetalso again..06:30
XplOzIonbrazmetal, my bad man. But hey isnt there a linux version of the shoutcast-server ?06:30
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brazmetalXplOzIon, yes, I'm using it06:30
brazmetalXplOzIon, but we need the encoder...06:31
brazmetalA program "make" the stream.... shoutcast is just a server06:31
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discordyou fools dont know a damn thing about wireless06:33
pixil9That's because I live in northern russia and we just got got pentium 2s06:33
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pixil9no wireless for years :(06:33
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HillTopI just upgraded my Warty to Hoary and a lot of things don't really work. For starters, how do I play a music CD. I put it in and thought in Warty it launched xmms I think. Now nothing. Can't play a wav file on my music CD??06:35
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crimsunHillTop: it should start the gnome cd player06:35
TuxicityHillTop, use the CD player06:35
brazmetaldoes someone here stream audio via Icecast/shoutcast?06:35
bet0xhey how i see my all scsi stuff?06:36
bet0xhi crimsun 3733t helper06:36
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crimsunbrazmetal: I do06:36
crimsun'lo bet0x06:36
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bet0xlo?06:37
HillTopI hit the file browser and right click on a selection - play with xmms - can't read it.06:37
crimsunbet0x: [hel] lo06:37
brazmetalcrimsun, icecast ou shoutcast?06:37
CitizenKaneif anyone has installed the linux version of wolfenstein enemy territory i could use some help06:37
crimsunbrazmetal: ices2->icecast206:37
bet0xcrimsun, how i see my scsi stuff06:37
brazmetal:(06:37
crimsunbet0x: could you rephrase please?06:37
HillTopTuxicityCD player says drive error - but file viewer can see files there.06:37
dr_willisCitizenKane,  not lately. :P but whats the problem? cant connect to any servers due to version mismatch?06:37
brazmetalcrimsun, is ices2 the encoder?06:38
bet0xcrimsun, i have a hd scsi but i dont know the real driver information, such a name , vendor etc,06:38
CitizenKanedr_willis, no, I downloaded and then installed it, just giving me a blank screen instead of loading06:38
crimsunbrazmetal: yes06:38
dr_willisCitizenKane,  hmm ya downloaded it from the rtcw:ET home page? or where06:39
bet0xscsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.3606:39
bet0xdone06:39
HillTopAnd now with Hoary upgrade from Warty I can't view pdf files. :(06:39
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bet0xVendor: IBM       Model: DDRS-34560D       Rev: DC1B06:39
crimsunbet0x: but isn't that the make & model?06:39
bet0xyeP06:39
brazmetalcrimsun, can it be used with shoutcast?06:40
Unfrgivenis it a good idea to apt-get dist-upgrade from debian/sid to ubuntu? is it even possible?06:40
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bet0xcrimsun, how i auto-mount a drive on gnome?06:40
XplOzIonHow do i extrac a file compresed in multiples RAR files? For example a movie in movie.rar, movie.r01 and so??06:40
CitizenKanedr_willis, downloaded it from http://www.mrbass.org/enemyterritory/06:40
crimsunbrazmetal: I use ices2 with icecast206:40
leek`_-frank_, thanks... it worked :D06:40
crimsunbrazmetal: I don't have any experience feeding ices2 into shoutcast06:40
crimsunbet0x: plug it in06:40
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bet0xits pluged06:41
bet0xmy new scsi06:41
bet0x:d06:41
TuxicityXplOzIon, use "unrar" on the .rar file06:41
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crimsunbet0x: did you create a new partition table and create a filesystem on it?06:41
Unfrgivennm i found out...06:41
XplOzIonTuxicity, do i need rar archiver?06:42
pixil9unrar always fucks up for me.. use rar x <file>06:42
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bet0xno06:42
dr_willisCitizenKane,  downloading it now.. lets see.. - you do hacve 3d working in other tames?06:42
bet0xcrimsun, where i create that?06:42
pixil9just apt-get install rar06:42
pixil9rar x <file>06:42
crimsunbet0x: using cfdisk and the mkfs.* tools06:42
frank_leek[sleep] , Great06:42
crimsunbet0x: please refer to the wiki06:42
TuxicityXplOzIon, you need to apt-get install unrar06:42
CitizenKanedr_willis, in windows at least, haven't tried on linux yet06:43
bet0xcrimsun, on the /etc/fstab06:43
bet0x:D06:43
TuxicityXplOzIon, or what pixil9 said...06:43
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HillTopOh this is just great! I play a music CD with Totem movie player. Oh yea, I remember someone complaining about that. Grief.06:43
TuxicityIs it a good idea to use prelinking in Ubuntu (Gnome)?06:43
XplOzIonTuxicity, sudo apt-get install rar aint working says: sudo: must be setuid root06:43
HillTopAlso I had installed acrobat and now it is nowhere to be found.06:43
dr_willisCitizenKane,  lol. :P you cant get the game working in windows?06:44
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_phate_is the a ubuntu package for 7zip?06:44
TuxicityHillTop, I think you can use the PostScript Viewer to view .pdf, not sure06:44
CitizenKanedr_willis, no, in windows a couple have worked just fine06:44
kkathmanHillTop you might try  "whereis" on the package...chances are its in /usr/bin06:45
dr_willisCitizenKane,  just a couple?06:45
Jeezishow do i check my uptime?06:45
CitizenKanedr_willis, let me put it this way, every one that I have used has worked06:46
b2sXplOzIon: is your sudo file not setuid root?06:46
b2sJeezis: go to a terminal and time "uptime"06:46
kkathmanJeezis you could try gkrellm as a monitor and uptime keeper06:46
b2ser "type"06:46
Jeezisok, thanks guys :)06:46
XplOzIonb2s, i dont know. first time i see that06:46
Juhazhmm06:46
Juhazis anyone using non-utf8 locale?06:47
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HillTopWith Hoary upgrade from Warty -- my install of NVU servived.. :)06:47
b2sXplOzIon: that looks like a bad message.  ls -l /usr/bin/sudo06:47
XplOzIonb2s, whats the default chmod for /usr/ ??06:47
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b2sXplOzIon: my /usr/ is 755, why?06:48
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XplOzIonb2s, someone did "sudo chmod -R 777 /usr/"06:49
geppyIs Beagle going to make it into Breezy?06:49
XplOzIonb2s, how do i change it back?06:49
crimsunmore than likely, geppy.06:49
geppycrimsun: Are the mono issues getting worked out?06:49
pixil9Fucking samba.06:49
brazmetaldoes someone here stream audio via shoutcast?06:49
b2sXplOzIon: eek! why?06:49
crimsungeppy: yep06:49
kkathmanpixil9 whats wrong w/samba?06:49
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XplOzIonb2s, stopid friend thinks its a linux wiseass =(06:50
geppycrimsun: Do you know if Beagle is currently packaged for Breezy?  That'd be reason enough to go back to unstable... =)06:50
CitizenKanedr_willis, glxgears worked, but i don't think that's the best indicator :P06:50
kkathmanhowdy there _chavo :)06:50
XplOzIonb2s, i did "chmod -R 755 /usr/"06:50
pixil9kkathman, Well I should be bitching at ubuntu for improperly setting shit up.. I goto System, Administration, Shared Folders.. add a share06:50
XplOzIonb2s, that will change it back to its default?06:50
crimsungeppy: don't believe so; check on p.u.c06:50
pixil9and check read-only.. yet it demands a user/pass from my winbox06:50
geppycrimsun: Alright; thanks! =)06:50
_chavohello kkathman.06:50
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b2sXplOzIon: no it won't.06:50
XplOzIonb2s, what will?... grrrr damn the friends! heh06:51
kkathmanpixil9 Yep thats true, you have to set up a few things first...but its easy...go to the old warty userguide and follow the samba instructions...works like a champ06:51
b2syou need to do chmod 4755 on /usr/bin/sudo (and possibly others) but I don't think you can unless you are root06:51
HillTopkkathmanacruread is in /usr/bin - now how do I get it working again?  Open with functions seem broken. Example, a .txt file right click to open with gedit fails. .pdf open with anything - the default app fails.06:51
pixil9kkathman, I'll fix it with swat ;/06:51
pixil9haha found a bug too06:52
pixil9add a share in there with a $ sign to hide it06:52
pixil9it fucks up and lists it like 20 times06:52
XTCboarderwhat's the name of the typical macosx screensaver under ubuntu?06:52
kkathmanpixil9 typically the standard install doesnt do everything06:52
kkathmanpixil9 Try looking at this:  http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#installsamba06:52
XplOzIonb2s, so what shoul i do then?06:52
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kkathmanpixil9 I have 3 linux and 3 windows boxes on my network and everyone sees everyone just fine and I can move everything around06:53
pixil9kkathman, thx06:53
kkathmanpixil9 no prob, glad to help :)06:53
b2sXplOzIon: well, I don't think you can get to root now under ubuntu.  you can probably reboot to single user mode.  or you could boot from cd06:54
CitizenKanedr_willis, no ideas?06:54
_phate_what do I need to apt-get for SDL?06:54
Tuxicity_phate_, must be libsdl?06:55
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pixil9kkathman, good guide06:55
XplOzIonb2s, thanks, ill see what i can do fix this06:55
kkathmanpixil9 Yep it absolutely works without a hitch06:56
transgresshey does ubuntu update generic kernels ala fedora?  i'm just curious06:56
b2sXplOzIon: your permissions are probably all messed up. but the one that is hurting you the most is the permissions on sudo.06:56
kkathmanthe peril of not having a REAL root Im afraid06:57
XplOzIonheh true06:57
HillTopIn hoary I click on a .sxc file to launch OOo and get an error but if I open OOo first I can open the file. :(06:57
geneo93kkathman:  you can do sudo passwd root and have one06:57
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kkathmangeneo93 yep06:58
geneo93hey i have no trouble using it06:58
dr_willisCitizenKane,  getting a black screen on RTCW: under linux, and glxgears works eh?06:59
incsup channel06:59
hobocophello dr_willis is the man to talk to06:59
hobocophe answers all the questions06:59
CitizenKanedr_willis, that's correct, glxgears works fine, RTCW gets a blank screen06:59
hobocopoh right link me kane06:59
hobocopI need to download that07:00
hobocop:)07:00
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dr_willisyou running et from a shell? seeing any error mssages at all?07:00
inci must say hoary has been pretty freaking awsome07:00
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Dreamer3_ok, is there some option in evolutoin to turn off evolution-alarm-daemon that likes to stick around and hog up memory?07:00
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CitizenKanedr_willis, just ran it using a gnome link, didn't see any error messages07:01
dr_willistry it from a shell. and theres dozens of shell options to test. it may even make a lot file.07:01
dr_willisthe thing is still installing for me - lol07:01
pixil9ooo I should download wolfenstein07:02
transgressokay now to write out a wiki doc07:02
pixil9do you still need a cdkey to play online?07:02
hobocopnope07:02
CitizenKanedr_wills, i will give it a try07:02
hobocopnot RTCWET07:02
pixil9what is that07:02
hobocopit is a online version only07:02
hobocophttp://www.mrbass.org/enemyterritory/07:02
pixil9Can I download it?07:02
hobocopyes07:02
hobocopit is free07:02
pixil9cool.07:03
dr_willisRTCW:ET is a free multiplayer only variation of RTCW :P its Great07:03
pixil9downloading now07:03
pixil9but i only have a 1 ghz processor07:03
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hobocopyes it is quite good for a linux game07:03
pixil9so i guess i should stop07:03
dr_willishmm its not in any of the  sources eh.. cant just apt-get it. :(07:03
hobocopno you can lower the details07:03
hobocopya I wish dr07:03
hobocopthat would be p.i.m.p07:03
dr_willisits based on the quake3 engine - so its not super machine needed. :P07:03
incapt-get into it07:04
hobocop:)07:04
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pixil9So i want the 260mb Linux Full Game 2.60?07:04
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yoinkexcuse me, can anyone tell me why when i write to my usbdrive it doesnt show up when i plug it back in later?07:04
yoinki dont get errors, the changes just dont stay07:04
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inchmm..i just pluged my ipod shuffle and hoary likes it... haven't tried writing to it yet07:05
kkathmanyoink what do you mean "when I write to my usb drive"  are we talking a plug in?07:05
dr_willisstupid insteller was hung.. :P07:05
incyoink, i'll see if i have similar issue07:05
dr_willispixil9,  yea.07:05
yoinkyeah, usbkey07:05
TrickyphillipsI'm able to write to my Maxtor 80GB external fine.07:05
TrickyphillipsAre you sure the drive is OK?07:05
yoinksorry, i was unclear07:05
yoinkyeah, its always worked fine in windows...07:06
kkathmanyoink so, you wrote a file to that drive and its not there later?07:06
pixil9is tribes 2 any good?07:06
yoinkright...after i unplug and plug it back in07:06
dr_willispixil9,  its a neat game.. for an older game..07:06
yoinkits empty again07:06
incok unmounting it07:06
dr_willispixil9,  a lot different then many other first person shooters07:06
pixil9ah07:06
pixil9I'm still in love with UT107:06
pixil9play it everyday07:06
yoinkyeah, i unmount it, then unplug07:06
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bet0xcrimsun, i have formated my /dev/sda1 i want to add this partition to my system07:06
bet0xhow i do it?07:07
kkathmanyoink  ok, so you mount it...write...then unmount, pull it out, then try to read it somewhere else or on that same machine?07:07
hobocopdo they have a linux version of UT:GOTY?07:07
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pixil9hobocop: ya07:07
yoinki tried to read it on the same machine07:07
hobocop:):)::):):):)07:07
hobocopwhere07:07
pixil9hobocop: pain in the ass through if you only have cd1.07:07
hobocopI have cd:007:08
pixil9both cds?07:08
hobocopno 0 cds07:08
kkathmanyoink  you mounted again, and theres nothing there07:08
incyoink, i was any to write to mine07:08
bet0xany know how i add a new partition on boot ?07:08
pixil9o07:08
melloHey guys, I need some quick advice. When I get to the GRUB Booter, it says I have two different versions of Ubuntu running, and I think it's just based off of the kernels. Is it okay if I delete the lines with the old kernel in them? I just want to make it a little nicer looking.07:08
pixil9Well can u get the cds?07:08
bet0xi have a new disk and i want to mount after init my machine07:08
hobocopI can get the one cd07:08
hobocopI didnt know there was 207:08
pixil9http://download.beyondunreal.com/fileworks.php/official/ut/ut-install-436-goty.run07:08
pixil9well if you have one cd07:08
pixil9you might wanna speak to me about getting it to run.07:09
kkathmanyoink check your USB device to be sure its not in "write protect" mode  I know that sounds rudimentary, but its happened to me :)07:09
pixil9fuckers made me spend like 15 hours figuring it out07:09
yoinkyou mean on the actual thing?  it doesnt have that option i dont think07:09
hobocoptalking --->07:09
incsome usb drives have a write protect switch07:10
dr_williswell its wrorking for me  :P07:10
dr_willisETCW:ET is such a fun game and the price is so right.07:10
incusually u'd get an error writing to it07:10
corvus_mello, if it's like fedora's grub then you just have two editions of the kernal, one new and one you have upgraded...wait till you check everyting out and make sure your comfortable with the new one before deleting the old..07:10
yoinkyeah, no errors, thats whats frusterating07:10
kkathmanyoink well mine does so ok... Im stumped...cuz if the device was unwriteable you should get a msg back07:10
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pixil9I'm 63% doen ETCW07:11
djonesmello, I'd keep the old kernel. You never know.07:11
pixil9or whatever07:11
mellocorvus_: I've been using the new one for weeks now, and it runs great with Hoary.07:11
yoinkhmm...it automounts when that window comes up, right?07:11
incyou add file via command line yoink?07:11
corvus_then delete the line if the only concern is looks...07:11
Cranewhat is etcw07:11
Crane??07:11
mellodjones: right.. dang. oh well. you've got a good point, but i just hate it all cluttered and junk07:11
kkathmanyoink  how did you write to it. Is it possible that you wrote out using sudo or something and trying to do an ls -l  and its not showing the file?07:11
yoinkyeah...just vi'd one there07:11
incor from gui?07:11
dr_willisrtcw:et  :P07:12
yoinkpossibly...07:12
yoinkhold on, ill check07:12
incwhere does it mount the device?07:12
Cranelol oh my bad, fun game!!07:12
corvus_but just by deleting the line you don't nessecarily have to delte the actual kernel07:12
yoinkusbdisk07:12
incso /media/usbdisk07:13
yoinkyeah, oops07:13
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kkathmanyoink maybe you could do a sudo ls -al /usbdisk07:13
kkathmanor whatever your mount point is07:13
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incyoink, oops? lol not good07:13
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CitizenKanedr_willis, tried running it from the shell, just had a black screen with a cursor on it07:14
incalso if you cat /etc/mtab it should come up there07:14
yoinkk, hold on, im trying just transferring using the file browser07:14
dr_willisCitizenKane,  odd...07:14
dr_willisCitizenKane,  what video card ya got?07:14
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hobocophe is gone07:14
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inci'd just touch a test file07:14
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hobocopIoh he is back07:14
hobocop520007:14
kkathmaninc yep07:14
hobocopan nvidia 5200 dr07:15
CitizenKanedr_willis, intel 915GM07:15
kkathmantouch /media/usbdisk/foo.tst07:15
hobocopvideo card07:15
yoinkvice?07:15
yoinkCrane lol oh my bad, fun game!!07:15
yoinkcorvus_ but just by deleting the line you don't nessecarily have to delte the actual kernel07:15
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dazedmy usbdisks dont get recognized when i plug em in07:15
HillTopSo in Hoary how do we view pdf?  The pdf viewer is missing from the menu after I upgraded from Warty! :(07:15
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dr_willisCitizenKane,  so it installed right.. you run it from shell with..   './et' - Hmm..   try the excape an ~ key - see if that gets ya to a menu.07:16
kkathmandazed cuz linux isnt exactly plug and play07:16
yoinkyeah nothing going with the ls -al07:16
kkathmandazed did you create a mount point?07:16
CitizenKanedr_willis, ok, i'll be back in a bit07:16
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dazedkkathman: but they do on my laptop and they did on warty07:16
incwhat comes up when u cat /etc/mtab07:16
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pixil9I'd suggest running all games as root07:16
kkathmanyoink try doing   touch /media/usbdisk/foo.tst   then looking for it07:17
pixil9UT won't run as a user.07:17
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dr_willismy usb thumb drives and hard drives are seen.07:17
dr_willispixil9,  it SHOULD be able to run as a user.07:17
shad0w1eanyoine here know how to install GOTY unreal tournament?07:17
dazedkkathman: how do i create a mount point for usb disks07:17
incpaste in #flood yoink07:17
pixil9o well07:17
yoinkumm, i cant paste it can i?07:17
pixil9i'll run it as root07:17
hobocopcan I log in as root at the login screen :)07:17
pixil9i'm installing it now07:17
incin #flood07:17
yoinkusbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 007:17
hobocoproot/rootpassword doesnt work :)07:17
incnot here07:17
yoinkis that important?07:18
bob2hobocop: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo07:18
kkathmandazed  just create a dir probably under /media07:18
dazedkkathman: 'usbdisk' directory? then what?07:18
kkathmandazed then associate that device in your fstab07:18
incjust trying to see what ur sys is calling it07:18
shad0w1eanyone know how to get GNOME working right on dual displays (two monitors) ?07:18
yoinkk, done07:19
stuNNedshad0w1e: have tried with projector07:19
shad0w1estuNNed: what?07:19
kkathmandazed:  try looking at this:   http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#listusbdevices07:19
dazedhmm07:19
stuNNedshad0w1e: nothing.07:19
dazedkkathman: i think hoary has better usb support then having to do that...07:19
dazedcuz it worked automatically on warty07:19
yoinkkkathman, the files always show until i unplug and replug07:19
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pixil9nice!!! it's working perfect07:20
pixil9thanks for the info on etcw :)07:20
CitizenKanedr_willis, tried to escape it and it didn't work07:20
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kkathmanyoink thats kinda odd.07:20
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dr_willisCitizenKane,  well wheni run it./ it does print out a lot of messages to the shell - no errors no nothint eh?07:20
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incyoink, looks ok07:21
CitizenKanedr_willis, ya, it prints out loading messages07:21
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incyou tested this usbdrive in another system?07:21
dazedkkathman: lsusb picks up all my usb ports...with the correct media in each07:21
yoinkyeah, i dunno...maybe ill test it on a friends windows comp...maybe its broken or something07:21
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yoinki have before, but not REALLY lately07:21
CitizenKanedr_willis, i have no idea what the problem might be07:21
incnot a microsoft usbdrive is it? lol07:22
pixil9How do i join a team?07:22
pixil9I was just spectating07:22
dr_willispixil9,  in rtce: ?07:22
pixil9btw it was perfectly smooth 1024x768 with 1066MHz & geforce 2 pro07:22
dr_willispixil9,  in rtcw?07:22
kkathmanyoink when you take the thumbdrive out, can you do an ls -al on /media/usbdrive ?07:22
pixil9ya07:22
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pixil9the shit i just downloaded07:23
yoinkill check07:23
dr_willisnormally ya go to a  limbo menu and click the side/class you want to play - then theres a spawn delay07:23
yoinkkkathman, nope!07:23
pixil9what is the limbo menu?07:23
dr_willis(L) for limbo I think.07:23
yoinkso thats good i guess...07:23
pixil9o07:23
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pixil9ok thx07:23
pixil9lemme try07:23
CitizenKanepixil9, press L and you can choose class and team07:23
incyoink you have more than one usb port?/07:23
yoinkat least i have the mount point right07:23
yoinkuh...yeah, like 4...2 in front07:23
pixil9nice07:24
kkathmanyoink  ah ok....yes  I thought for some reason the file was going to a physical directory...that result means that you DID associate the drive to the mountpoint I suppose07:24
pixil9k brb07:24
yoinkgtg, thanks for the help so far guys...im sure ill be back07:24
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yoinkyou guys are very helpful though07:24
inctry switching ports07:24
kkathmanyoink  have you done a dmesg  to make sure the USB is ok?07:24
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yoinkill do it later i guess...gotta get some late night mcD's07:25
kkathmanhehe... kewl yoink :)07:25
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inchehe07:25
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danko123456McD's07:26
danko123456:)07:26
geneo93mcd's sucks07:26
inci can feel my blood vessels harden07:26
AtholasIs there a branch in Ubuntu that is always the development branch like sid in Debian?07:26
dotnickhas anyone here run gentoo for a while and then switched to ubuntu?07:26
hobocoppixil I require your assitence07:26
inceww gentoo07:26
hobocopbecause I am having a raging boner that I can run UT natively07:26
dotnickinc: that's all i've run for the past 3 years...07:27
danko123456geneo93: Im gonna go catch me some late night SuperSize Me!07:27
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incdotnick, ubuntu is the most user friend version of linux i've tried heh07:28
dotnicki'm a little curious about how fast new packages make into the repositories....07:28
seekerJeezis, are you therer?07:28
danko123456a couple of days07:28
transgresshttps://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowtoUseNdiswrapperOnAmd64Ubuntu <-- not completely lazy07:28
danko123456:)07:28
incdotnick, pretty fast07:28
pixil9DAMN THX SO MUCH. I LOVE WOLF :p07:28
dr_willispixil9,  lol. :P07:28
dotnickinc: how many versions have you tried? ... because if its only one.. its not saying much :-p07:28
transgressb2s: you still around?07:28
pixil9god now i won't get a job for another week07:29
dr_willispixil9,  shame..  :P07:29
pixil9hahaha07:29
danko123456heh07:29
Atholasinc: not firefox 1.0.3 though.07:29
dr_willispixil9,  repeate after me "Would you like to biggy size that Glutton meal sir?"07:29
incflavors of linux? i've tried debian-sarge, gentoo, redhat-fedora, slackware, damn small linux, freebsd07:30
danko123456I like chocolate and vanilla most07:30
kkathmanlol07:30
incthose too lol07:30
danko123456I always come to this channel and spam it with stpid jokes.07:30
Atholasinc: are the packages in fedora really as up-to-date as they claim? I am wanting to try it, but am too comfortable with Ubuntu to swap :)07:31
incno one like strawberry07:31
pixil9fuck fedora07:31
danko123456its ok, too.07:31
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danko123456yeah, why do that?07:31
kkathmanfedora is bloated07:31
danko123456Ubuntu is theway to go.07:31
pixil9ubuntu rox07:31
danko123456Agreed.07:31
dazedubu is for winners07:31
inci need to fix fedora at wok all the time.. you can get apt-get for fedora and fuck up-to-date07:32
inclol07:32
Atholaslol07:32
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danko123456lets see how my installation of Mplayer goes.07:32
AtholasThen I won't even bother with Fedora..07:32
thegreedyturtlemy favorite is apple07:32
incapple?? wtf07:32
danko123456Apple what?07:32
thegreedyturtleflavor07:32
danko123456Yeah, its ok..07:32
danko123456Sour, or sweet?07:32
incwashington?07:32
incgranny smith?07:33
inclol07:33
danko123456The big apple?07:33
thegreedyturtlei like my apples like i like my women - sour and puckered.07:33
incNEW YORK NEW YORK!!!!07:33
danko123456INC!!!07:33
danko123456Tha INC:)07:33
danko123456wow07:33
inchaha07:33
danko123456whats that animal?07:33
danko123456C:)07:34
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danko123456awesome.07:34
hobocopI like my apples like I like my women07:34
danko123456noone has any problems?07:34
hobocopwith big breasts07:34
danko123456hahahaha07:34
danko123456lol07:34
thegreedyturtleheheh07:34
thegreedyturtlegenetically modifed?07:34
danko123456thats just funny.07:34
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danko123456I would go for that.07:34
incAtholas, i've used fedora on my little test lappy here and this new version of ubuntu works with all my hardware right out the box07:34
hobocopall natural boi07:34
transgressokay now to see how long the battery last on ubuntu07:34
hobocopcmon07:34
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transgresshad it go for about 4 hours on windows07:34
danko123456Do you have Bluetooth in the laptop?07:35
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thegreedyturtlehttp://www6.tomshardware.com/mobile/20050418/index.html07:35
incnah07:35
thegreedyturtleget a 'battery life activator!' today!07:35
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danko123456hehe07:36
incwe got spammer in here now?07:36
thegreedyturtlehaha07:36
danko123456a spammer, or just spammer?07:36
danko123456THat guy spammer, right.07:36
thegreedyturtle=P07:36
thegreedyturtleim hurt07:36
danko123456Or is spammer something else?07:36
danko123456I hate when someone says I produced spam...07:36
danko123456Its like, youre leaking spam, dude...07:37
mfinchI have a hotswap HDD USB caddy that I use to copy files to my server.  I use this to backup "crashed" Windows machines.  Are their any utilites that can browse/mount HDD partition in Linux?  I do that by hand generally... just curious.07:37
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inca sleezy salesman of wares lol07:37
seekercheck this out - http://dev.gentoo.org/~lewk/img/vim.gif  it had me ROFLing!07:37
thegreedyturtle"we're sorry, you've been blacklisted. Feel free to pound your head against the wall"07:37
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thegreedyturtleHAHAHAHA07:37
incpound sand??? how dare you07:37
inclol07:37
danko123456mfinch: like what a GUI tool?07:38
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incdanko123456, don't like fried spam?07:38
danko123456I like how installing MPlayer takes so long to install.07:39
mfinchdankol: yes.  Most tools are for disk management and not mounting.  qparted for example.07:39
danko123456Yeah, I heard they eat spam.07:39
thegreedyturtletry doing it with yum...07:39
oohlalahow do I change my username on my system ?07:39
danko123456oohlala: like what, change it to a different one, and stay the same person?07:39
oohlalayes07:39
danko123456Just change the username?07:39
incyum.. then evil fedora tool07:39
transgressyum would take almost as long as emerge... except not custom compiled heh07:39
thegreedyturtletastes like burning07:39
seekerhow can I send a messege to someone so that he sees it in a new window?07:40
danko123456Well, create a username, and join it to all groups your current one is a member of.07:40
elcuhello, any way to set the cd read speed?  when i'm using sound juicer to rip tracks, the transfer rate is really slow, and it tells me that it will take up to half and hour.07:40
danko123456seeker: here in IRC?07:40
seekeryes07:40
transgresspoor yum... forever associated with fedora when it started out for another distro07:40
danko123456mfinch: no, I have not heard of one..07:40
thegreedyturtlewhat distro is that?07:40
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danko123456mfinch: I didnt hear of much though..07:40
oohlalanot create a new one....just change the handle I go by right now...to a new one07:40
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oohlalafor login purposes07:40
danko123456mfinch: tried sf.net????07:41
incthat's cause apt is king and distorts all time and space07:41
mfinchdank: thanks.  Thought I would ask.  Didn't know of Ubuntu had a couple of tricks or not.07:41
transgressthegreedyturtle: ever looked at the original page for yum?07:41
mfinchdrank: what is sf.net?07:41
seekerdanko123456,  yes here in irc.07:41
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thegreedyturtletransgress: no07:41
danko123456mfinch: maybe does, I am not really the person to ask.07:41
transgresswell do you wonder what yum stands for by chance?07:41
thegreedyturtletransgress: the man page?07:41
danko123456mfinch: sourceforge.net07:41
inctransgress, let me guess slackware or something07:42
transgressit's yellow dog updated modified07:42
thegreedyturtleah07:42
transgress*updater07:42
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danko123456seeker: double click their nick on the right side...07:42
thegreedyturtlewoof07:42
danko123456does that work?07:42
incyou dog you07:42
seekerdanko123456, it didn't do anything...07:42
danko123456It should, you using Gaim?07:42
mfinchDank: Sorry pulling up sf now.  I think it would be nice if Ubuntu kept the "text configurations" used in install on your Linux box.  I think their disk tools would work well enough for what I want.07:42
seekernorris, x-chat07:43
incyes you did seeker07:43
seekerno x-chat07:43
incit's all your fault :(07:43
housetieris it possible to install ubuntu from within a running linux system? my laptop's floppy and cdrom are broken, so I was wondering if I could start the installer by hand07:43
seekerI did waht inc?07:43
bob2housetier: no07:43
bob2housetier: you can run debootstrap, tho07:43
incseeker,  i dunno07:43
TheMuso.clear07:44
incbut it's your fault somehow07:44
inclol07:44
thegreedyturtleoohlala: did you get help yet?07:44
seekertest07:44
danko123456I guess that didnt work07:45
danko123456lol07:45
seekernop didn't work. so it's not double clicking the name...07:45
danko123456get Gaim for that reason07:45
housetierso I could abuse debootstrap to create a base system of sorts... that might be enough, I dont really want to repartition07:45
seekeranyone know how to do it in x-chat?07:45
brazmetalDoes someone here stream audio via shoutcast?07:45
thegreedyturtleright click the blue name then select Direct client to client offer chat?07:46
LeeColletonping tells me that a link is down, but mii-tool sez: 'eth2: 10 Mbit, half duplex, link ok'07:46
LeeColletonwhat gives?07:46
transgressokay what might cause this... whenever i tri to play anything from a dvd... light music i have on a data dvd... it stops spinning and locks up07:46
danko123456seeker: ask the question again, they did not see it likely.07:46
transgressthe program07:46
seekerhow can I join here through gaim?07:47
thegreedyturtleseeker:right click the blue name then select Direct client to client offer chat?07:47
danko123456go tools, accounts, add an account for irc.freenode.net07:47
danko123456then file, join chat.07:47
danko123456#ubuntu07:47
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seekerwhen I try that, he needs to accept, when danko123456 pm me I didn't need to accept07:48
transgressi wonder if my extended warranty covers linux being installed or if i have problems ima have to put windows back on this box07:48
danko123456wow the computer was just rude to me07:48
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danko123456I tried running xchat as root.07:48
danko123456And he said it was stupid07:48
chazwurthtransgress: Who's the hardware vendor?07:48
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seekerI thought of an answer to something that Jeezis asked me, I want to leave him the anser (he is not answring now)07:48
geneo93danko123456:  running anything as root is stupid07:49
transgressfor the lappy or the dvd?07:49
transgressrom07:49
chazwurthtransgress: For the laptop07:49
dbernar1got it?07:49
dbernar1now youre rude too, eh?07:49
dbernar1lol07:49
chazwurthtransgress: And is it an at-home service warranty?07:49
b2sseeker: so msg him07:49
transgresswell it's an hp, but i got it from compusa07:49
thegreedyturtledoes irc.freenode.net have way of registering a nick?07:49
transgressand it's the hp protection plan07:49
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seekerwhat is the command? "./msg" ?07:50
b2syeah. /msg username the text message to send07:50
danko123456oh, he kleft07:50
elmayaa msg07:50
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seeker./ msg danko123456 test07:51
transgresserr it's the compusa protection plan not hp07:51
seekerdanko123456, did you get my msg?07:51
danko123456I guess that didnt work...07:51
danko123456./msg seeker daba kaj ima?07:51
mebaran151my xpdf segfaults on AMD6407:51
mebaran151what should I do07:51
chazwurthtransgress: I assume that means you take it to compusa and they fix it there?07:51
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danko123456Yeah, leave out the .07:51
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transgresschazwurth: unless i really wanna send it in07:52
seekerok thanks!07:52
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Smevenis breezy pretty unstable?07:52
danko123456not that I did anything.07:52
chazwurthtransgress: I'm guessing that they'll want to verify for themselves that it's broken. They can't (won't) do that with Linux installed. You'll probably have to put Windows on it. I'm not certain, but I think it's likely.07:52
danko123456WEll, its pretty Breezy, if you get what I mean...07:53
Smevenij07:53
Smevenok07:53
danko123456Heh, no I was jj.07:53
Smevenideal for gnome developers i would assume07:53
danko123456I dont know...07:53
danko123456I use the stable.07:53
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chazwurthtransgress: If you had an at-home service warranty, you'd probably be able to bully them to send you the part, or haggle with the serviceman if that failed.07:53
danko123456my Mplayer dont work:(07:53
danko123456Ill try rebooting...brb07:54
danko123456what sucks about linux, is that rebooting dont usually help.07:54
seekerok. sent him the msg. thanks guys. now I can go :)07:55
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pixil9hahaha07:55
pixil9no rebooting doesn't usually do shit07:56
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jinx``hi07:56
pixil9hi07:56
transgresswell i know it's not broken because it worked with windows07:56
transgressbut i don't want that07:56
jinx``gooood morning everybody :>07:56
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transgressi actually only bought the extended warranty because it covers accidental damage including screen07:56
transgressso if i get angry and punch it... that's covered07:56
danko123456You guys like the little music at the beginning of Ubuntu07:56
thegreedyturtledon't worry danko, that's a feature, not a bug :)07:56
thegreedyturtlerestarting x11 usually does something tho07:56
danko123456?07:56
danko123456I know, Im jj.07:57
thegreedyturtlei like the drumbeats07:57
danko123456transgress: dont punch the baby...07:57
mebaran151I dont like them07:57
pixil9danko123456, yes.07:57
elmayawhy use mplayer when vlc is better?07:57
danko123456d0ont kick the baby either.07:57
thegreedyturtlei usually turn off the stupid clicky stuff but the drums is nice07:57
pixil9I think vlc is a piece of shit.07:57
mebaran151my xpdf segfaults on AMD64.  how should I solve this07:57
mebaran151I tried a sorc compile07:57
danko123456Its pretty col the music.07:57
mebaran151got a sizeof error07:57
danko123456really, vlc is better?07:58
danko123456I didnt hear that one yet...07:58
thegreedyturtlehey, has anyone dealt with xen much?07:58
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danko123456no, not much...in fact, not at all...07:58
pixil9danko123456, vlc sucks ass.07:58
nomasteryodawell guys, the issue I have had with Ubuntu is getting mp3 playing to work.. period... It should be simple and built right in07:58
transgressgrar... fucking thing locks up everytime i try to play music from a dvd07:58
danko123456I have it in windows...its fine..07:58
thegreedyturtlemp3 is proprietary... sorry mate07:58
pixil9nomasteryoda, xmms doesn't work?07:59
danko123456DVDs are for music...07:59
thegreedyturtlebuilding it in would require liscensing07:59
nomasteryodapixil9: not on mine...07:59
danko123456ah...movies rather.07:59
Choubakanomasteryoda: it's possible.07:59
danko123456sorry:(07:59
nomasteryodai had to go thru some girations to make it work07:59
nomasteryodafrom the wiki07:59
pixil9nomasteryoda, Well you probably have a ghetto dell or HP or something.. with a shit soundcard that isn't supported07:59
danko123456nomasteryoda: blocks up?07:59
nomasteryodait works, but it should be plugin, then work07:59
ChoubakaDon't blame ubuntu for it.07:59
nomasteryodalol07:59
nomasteryodaghetto dell07:59
Choubakamp3 is proprietary.07:59
thegreedyturtlehave you looked at http://ubuntuguide.org/07:59
danko123456nomasteryoda: when you try to play music, it blocks up?07:59
Choubakait can't be included in main07:59
pixil9I hate all dell hp compaq e-machine08:00
pixil9anything like that08:00
nomasteryodadanko123456: typo08:00
danko123456?08:00
pixil9those are all of the computers i fix on a weekly basis08:00
danko123456does it not work?08:00
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pixil9It's great that dell has the best support.. except they have 100x the problems08:00
danko123456Mine blocked up like that, and I fixed it with help from someone here.08:00
nomasteryodapixil9: i hate dell too, but it will not play them on my amd generic box either08:00
pixil9so no shit they need good support08:00
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nomasteryodaagain, have to patch08:00
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thegreedyturtlemy favorite is the emachine's obscenely overpriced replacement parts08:00
danko123456nomasteryoda: is your xmms working?08:00
Choubakapatch?!08:00
Choubakawtf08:01
nomasteryodanow it is08:01
danko123456ok.08:01
danko123456cook08:01
ChoubakaI just installed one lib.08:01
nomasteryodapatch, on wiki08:01
Choubakausing apt08:01
thegreedyturtle100 bucks for a crappy power supply, they could at least have a good one08:01
danko123456cool, thats good.08:01
nomasteryodalet me get link08:01
pixil9It's like.. how about we just make a good product from the start and we don't need a 10,000 person support department08:01
pixil9we need 100008:01
pixil9fucking dell.08:01
pixil9lol08:01
danko123456dude, tech support is there for a good reason.08:01
pixil9100 bux for a no name PSU08:01
danko123456I, in fact, work tech support for Comcast.08:01
pixil9ya.. cuz their computer suck so fucking bad.. they need a crazy support program08:02
nomasteryodahttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:02
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danko123456And, let me remind you...there is ppl that dont know how to use the address bar...08:02
danko123456the to: field in emails, and such...08:02
nomasteryodayea, i know... restricted, but mp3? it is as common as sliced bread08:02
pixil9All I'm saying is if they'd just get a custom built machine08:02
thegreedyturtleand then danko has to go home and does tech suppourt for Ubuntu to wash the taste out of his mouth08:02
danko123456its not just the hardware needs to be good.08:02
pixil9they'd have 100x less problems then their dell08:02
Choubakanomasteryoda: doesn't matter.08:02
Choubakait's patented08:02
danko123456thegreedyturtle: ?08:02
nomasteryodaso anyway, aside from that issue, Kudos on making IPOD show up correctly08:02
danko123456Wash the taste?08:02
thegreedyturtlejust kiddin' around08:02
danko123456Im fine...08:02
nomasteryodaChoubaka: ik08:02
ChoubakaYeah.08:03
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ChoubakaSo no you know why it can't be included.08:03
ChoubakaIt's not legal in USA08:03
chazwurthpixil9: Unfortunately there isn't much in the way of well-built reasonably-priced hardware for home consumers. And you don't 'get' a custom-built machine. You build a custom-built machine. People don't know how and don't have time for the hassle.08:03
Choubakanot completely at lest.08:03
Choubakaleast*08:03
nomasteryodaChoubaka: so why cant we make a deb package to add support08:03
nomasteryodaput it on restricted?08:03
thegreedyturtleit's on mallirat08:03
Choubakanomasteryoda: there is a deb?08:03
nomasteryodakinda like the Redhat did / does08:03
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Choubakawtf.08:03
pixil9chazwurth, I have about 3 places within 15 minutes that build machines for you. so yes you do "get" them.08:03
pixil9i build mine.08:03
Reblended< I just did lspci to get my video card BusID... how do I convert 1e (hex) to decimal?08:04
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mebaran151my xmms is not working08:04
FlopSter|CTOk..here's the deal..im not a bot im a guy joining channels and letting yall know about a service that pays you to do like google/msn searches...ya can also get tons of people signed up benieth you to make referral money as well...thats what im doing...since im poor and trying to find a way to make some money to support my family while im going back to college...so if you would plz click and help me out: http://tinyurl.com/chdf7 Thankya ahead of time!08:04
transgresswhat do i need to get for xmms so it can play mp3s?08:04
mebaran151it just mysteriously doesnt start08:04
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pixil9chazwurth, So i dunno wtf you're smoking.08:04
transgressit seems it's locking because of lack of codecs not because of the dvd08:04
danko123456pixil9: the ppl dont know how  to send an email!08:04
mebaran151no error msg on the cli08:04
inccan anyone recommend a gui ftp client?08:04
mebaran151it just doesnt load the gui08:04
thegreedyturtlenomasteryoda: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs08:04
pixil9but me.. i smoke weed08:04
danko123456not their sound card isnt working, they dont know how to turn the knob..08:04
Reblendedconvert 1e hex to decimal08:04
pixil9and it's doobie time08:04
pixil9later08:04
thegreedyturtlebe sure to read the How to add extra repositories08:04
chazwurthpixil9: I build mine as well. But the average consumer doesn't know what parts are what. And trusting a mom-and-pop shop to choose for them is at least as risky as trusting Dell.08:04
danko123456inc: gftp.08:04
nomasteryodathegreedyturtle: thanks08:04
mebaran151both xpdf and xmms do not work08:04
pixil9fuck no it's not.08:04
danko123456Its included in Hoaryl08:04
pixil9www.memoryexpress.net is in calgary where I live08:05
pixil9they build sweet machines for retards.08:05
pixil9they do millions a month in business08:05
Reblendedoh It's 30 =] 08:05
geneo93transgress:  try installing gstreamer0.8-mad08:05
Choubakathat's all you need. :|08:05
Choubakayou don't even need marillat or anything08:05
danko123456pixil9: Im in winnipeg08:05
incdanko123456, thought it was a seperate download08:05
pixil9danko123456, right on :P08:05
danko123456may be...08:06
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danko123456inc: may be...08:06
inci've used it before but seeing if there was anything else08:06
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danko123456Try applications>internet.08:06
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danko123456there are others surely":)08:06
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danko123456awesome, sorry08:07
danko123456Hey, I tagged a fence near work today08:07
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jinx``Reblended08:07
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jinx``14*1 + 1*1608:08
jinx``:D08:08
pablo928transgress-check out www.ubuntuguide,org for all the info you need for mp3.08:08
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jinx``so 30 is a nice start for your hexadecimal skills :D08:08
danko123456nomasteryoda: does that page show for .avi support?08:08
Reblendedjinx``, ty!  I had to cheat: http://www.statman.info/conversions/hexadecimal.html08:08
pablo928inc-I've had good luck with gftp08:09
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ChoubakaxIt sucks not to be able to use mp3 out-of-the-box though. :/08:09
danko123456its a good program, works08:09
jinx``you can cheat, but never show it to keep your wisdom :D08:09
danko123456yeah, hmmm...something's wrong with that wisdom...08:09
danko123456but, I know what you mean.08:09
thegreedyturtle.avi gets added with w32codecs i think08:09
Reblendedjinx``, I've run the xwindows reconfigure I can't tell how many times... gdm restart fail08:09
Choubakathegreedyturtle: .avi is not a codec08:10
Reblendedmy sony lcd is junk! (please work)08:10
transgressheh i can't use w32codecs08:10
transgresshave they ripped the w64codecs yet?08:10
thegreedyturtlelol08:10
jinx``is wisdom the wrong word here? :>08:10
thegreedyturtlew32 might work anyway...08:10
danko123456the wisdom is out there.08:11
danko123456:)08:11
Choubakatransgress: you may want to try vlc in the meantime08:11
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pablo928inc-nvu and mozilla composer also have integrated ftp clients08:11
jinx``when i want to compile something, is it always ppossible to use ./configure && make && make installl ?08:11
transgressstill adding in the codecs... i can't play freaking mp3's... blargh... just locks up.08:11
danko123456it works in Xine.08:11
yoinkhey guys its me again...guess it broke or something, the usbdisk doesnt work on another computer either08:12
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thegreedyturtlejinx: depends on what you are installing08:12
Choubakajinx``: no.08:12
danko123456brb08:12
jinx``ok08:12
Reblendedanyone here use the intel 82815 graphics chip?08:12
Choubakamost programs use make though08:12
danko123456yoink: yeah, that happens.08:12
danko123456like with my printer.08:12
jinx``is there a guide anywhere?08:12
Reblendedsomeone?08:12
yoinki think i messed it up trying to get damn small linux on it08:12
Choubakajinx``: what do you want to compile? :p08:12
membreyajinx``: nano README or nano INSTALL08:13
danko123456jinx``: usually it does work with those three though.08:13
Reblendedtransgress, just batch convert your mp3's to ogg ;-)08:13
danko123456I have a cool email on that topic.08:13
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ChoubakaReblended: Can that be done without loss of quality? /:08:13
transgressReblended: and lose more quality?08:13
thegreedyturtlethe real question is if you are talking about wisdom or intelligence: wisdom is the ability to make finer and finer distinctions (education) and intelligence is the ability to interpret ambiguity08:13
Reblendedtransgress, have you tried getting the lame decoder and using audacity?08:13
jinx``at the moment i don't want to compile something special08:13
Reblendedohhh.. I thought I read somewhere it could be done! Choubaka , transgress08:14
jinx``just a general question08:14
jinx``:D08:14
thegreedyturtle(that's a bit late response...)08:14
transgressthere is something wrong when mplayer won't even play mp3's08:14
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Reblendedtransgress, try vlc08:14
chazwurthSomeone here the other day was saying it could be done as well. mp3 ---> some lossless codec ---> ogg08:14
Choubakatransgress: You just don't have a decoder :/08:14
jinx``thx thegreedyturtle08:14
jinx``:>08:14
transgressReblended: just installed vlc08:14
transgressnothing08:14
thegreedyturtleys?08:14
Reblendedaw08:14
Choubakachazwurth: doesn't work.08:14
TetanusWhere is xorg.conf in ubuntu 5.04 please08:14
thegreedyturtley' welcome08:14
jinx``/etc/X1108:15
ChoubakaTetanus: /etc/X11/08:15
TetanusNo etc x1108:15
TetanusX1108:15
chazwurthChoubaka: I didn't look into it; even if it did, converting that much music would be a major pain in the ass :P08:15
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TetanusI dont have that directorz08:15
Choubakahm08:15
jinx``you should :D08:15
thegreedyturtletoo bad there isn't a 'LIVE GODDAMNIT /etc/X11' command08:15
Reblendedjust dont use a 8th inch patch cable from your headphone back into your mic input... don't say I didn't warn you08:15
thegreedyturtlehahah08:15
Tetanuspraksa1:/etc# cd X1108:16
Tetanus-bash: cd: X11: No such file or directory08:16
Reblendedfeedback loop! =] 08:16
thegreedyturtleever see the etherkiller?08:16
ChoubakaTetanus: eek08:16
Choubaka:D08:16
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, I don't have any ether08:16
jinx``locate -u08:16
Choubakahave you got x.org installed?08:16
TetanusWhat Choubaka08:16
jinx``locate xorg.conf08:16
thegreedyturtleetherkiller: http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/08:16
ReblendedI've found xorg.conf but when I copy it to my thumbdrive and open it on my xp machine... it's not there!08:17
hobocopI cant click anything on my desktop lmao08:17
Tetanuslocate -u08:17
Tetanuslocate: invalid option -- u08:17
Tetanusslocate dont work either08:17
danko123456goof night!!08:17
danko123456funk.08:17
danko123456Good Night.08:18
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Reblendedthegreedyturtle, cisco loves you08:18
nomasteryodaReblended: lol08:18
transgresswhat's the command to make sshd keys?08:18
thegreedyturtlewooooo!08:18
nomasteryodaReblended: did you umount the thumbdrive?08:18
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Reblendedyah! it worked for two other files, nomasteryoda08:18
nomasteryodak08:19
Reblendedthen I mounted the 3rd time and the file cp'ed ok... I thought08:19
nomasteryodaReblended: copy file to your desktop, then try dropping it into the thumb08:19
nomasteryodajust a though08:19
Reblendednomasteryoda, crimsun helped me with the thumbdrive mounting... someone else was helping me with troubleshooting my xserver woes08:19
nomasteryodaReblended: hoary?08:20
Reblendednomasteryoda, (no gdm)08:20
Reblendedyes08:20
nomasteryodaah08:20
nomasteryodaok08:20
Reblendedtoo white?08:20
thegreedyturtlequestion, is your thumb drive in vfat?08:20
nomasteryodawell, just thought i'd throw in some suggestions... got to sleep08:20
nomasteryodanite08:20
Reblendedty nomasteryoda g/night08:20
thegreedyturtlen/t08:20
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, I've gotta go look that up to answer that08:21
Reblendedno08:21
thegreedyturtleaahh08:21
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, it worked tho fine08:21
Reblendedwith xp... for two other files08:21
thegreedyturtleok well that's a bust then08:21
thegreedyturtlecan you see the file on the drive?08:21
Reblendedunder linux08:21
Reblendednot xp08:21
Reblendedahh08:21
thegreedyturtle?08:22
Dreamer3_what's the quickest way (console) to find out how much memory (the varios types) a program is using?08:22
Reblendedweir08:22
Reblendedd08:22
thegreedyturtlefree08:22
geneo93Dreamer3_:  top08:22
Reblendedjust type that in?08:22
Dreamer3_geneo93: i have too much stuff running :)08:22
transgressi really really don't want to put windows back on this box, but i really really need my stuff to work08:22
ReblendedI could do without mp308:22
ReblendedI would just like my gdm to start!08:23
transgresswell i can't get mp3 or dvd to play08:23
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transgresswell i can get dvd's to play with no sound in kaffeine...08:23
transgressbut i do have sound note ye08:23
thegreedyturtleReblended: did you ever get your file to appear?08:23
Reblendedahh, cuz it uses mp3 for dvd sound, eh08:23
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, not in xp08:23
thegreedyturtleReblended: why are you using xp again?08:23
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, xorg.conf shows up when I ls... but not in xp08:23
jinx``Dreamer3_ but top will do it for you :D08:24
thegreedyturtleyou have two computers or a dual boot?08:24
chazwurthtransgress: I assume you tried gstreamer08-mad?08:24
Choubakatransgress: you need gstreamer0.8-mad and libdvdcss208:24
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, the xp machine is the only other machine that I can get to paste my log files to the net... the other computer is the one I'm working on08:24
thegreedyturtleok08:24
Reblendedi wish it were08:24
thegreedyturtlecan you use login at a console?08:25
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, remember, I can't start gdm.. I'm at the prompt08:25
Reblendedxwindows won't start08:25
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ReblendedI'm not sure what driver will work...08:25
thegreedyturtlebut you are at a promt right?08:25
Reblendedyes08:25
thegreedyturtlepress ctl alt F108:25
glamdring'lo kids08:25
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transgressChoubaka: i have both of those08:25
thegreedyturtleand login as your username and password08:25
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, this is live hoary08:26
glamdringooh live hoary is out!08:26
glamdringnice08:26
thegreedyturtleshould work anyway? maybe? i have no idea actually =P08:26
glamdringhoary has been released then?08:26
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Reblendedyes it is nice, on an hp 2.3 p4ht, not on my sony vaio pIII08:26
shinuhey!08:26
glamdringlol08:26
glamdringwell you must want useless things liek gnome :)08:27
shinuis there an equivalent of yum(fedora) in ubuntu?08:27
Choubakayes.08:27
thegreedyturtleapt08:27
glamdringshinu... ubuntu uses debian tools08:27
Reblendedit is schweet, hoary live... widescreen etc08:27
glamdringso apt is standard08:27
thegreedyturtleand it's not equivalent no, it's much better08:27
shinualright08:27
glamdringand in the gui you use synaptic08:27
Choubakashinu: apt actually existed before yum :)08:27
shinugonna read the manpage :D08:27
Reblendedanyone here run ubuntu on a sony vaio with an intel gfx card?08:27
glamdringapt is the only package management tool I'll ever use again08:27
shinuok thanks everyone :)08:28
thegreedyturtleshinu: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html08:28
transgressokay i have sound, but when i go to gstreamer-properties and try to do the test... they fail to construct a pipeline to the tests08:28
Choubakaglamdring: apt is the onlt package management tool I've ever used :D08:28
transgresscould it be something to do with trying to do with the audio that is locking it up?08:28
shinuthanks thegreedyturtle08:28
glamdringyou're not missing ANYTHING Choubaka08:28
ChoubakaI know.08:28
glamdringI've used all the rpm flavors08:28
thegreedyturtleshinu is welcome08:28
glamdringand while some are nice08:28
transgressoh shit08:28
transgressi restarted esd and it worked...08:28
thegreedyturtleglamdring: what do you think of autopackage?08:29
glamdringapt is teh own08:29
transgressummm08:29
Reblendedhow many years of reading do I have to do to just get ubuntu to work on my Vaio?08:29
chazwurthglamdring: I'll second that thought :)08:29
transgresscool?08:29
Choubakatransgress: :D08:29
glamdringhaven't used autopackage08:29
Choubakaautopackage sounds like a cool concept.08:29
Choubakait'll be good for commercial applications,08:29
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transgresswhat's the battery life like on a pentium m?08:29
Choubakaand non-free apps.08:29
Reblendedisn't there a generic driver xorg? I just want to get into xwindows... FAIL gdm08:29
ChoubakaReblended: vesa08:30
Reblendedthx Choubaka08:30
thegreedyturtleim trying to boot live cd right now08:30
chazwurthtransgress: With power management working, I'm getting 3.5 -4 hours with a 1.6 GHz and a 15 inch widescreen display08:30
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chazwurthtransgress: to make it up to 4 hours I have to turn the display down some08:30
Reblendednow I need to know what my BusID is... Choubaka   the hex was 1e which is 30 in decimal... sounds ok?08:30
revelaterare there any diablo 2 like games for linux?08:30
transgresschazwurth: nice... i think i got nearly 3 on mine08:31
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transgressbut it's an amd6408:31
Choubakahmm.08:31
chazwurthtransgress: and this is assuming I'm not making very heavy use of the processor. I mean, I'm using the machine, but nothing too processor-intensive.08:31
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ReblendedChoubaka, it didn't say it was not allowed... so?08:31
revelaterare there any diablo 2 like games for linux?08:31
revelater??08:31
jinx``diablo208:31
jinx``with wine :D08:31
Reblendedrevelater, happypenguin08:31
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Reblendedthe manuals, are they available on the live cd as well?08:32
thegreedyturtlei think that the real hitter for commercial applications is going to be standardizing with http://elektra.sourceforge.net/08:32
chazwurthtransgress: What I'd really like to do is get a second battery for the modular bay. I almost never use the cd drive, and with over 6 hours battery life, I'd almost never have to worry about it.08:32
jubeiHello. I want to recompile my kernel with a 500hz mouse polling patch. Is this the howto I should be following http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelByHandHowto ?08:32
revelaterReblended, i have been looking, and short of downloading every single rpg i haven't found one08:32
shinugtg08:32
shinubai08:32
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thegreedyturtlejubei: yes08:33
Reblendedrevelater, I need them as I am not going to be online for most of the summer08:33
Reblendedwget all debian manuals08:33
thegreedyturtlejubei: scratch that, I reccommend http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelBuildpackageHowto08:33
revelaterReblended, ? what do you mean?08:33
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thegreedyturtlejubei: it will actually build you a .deb that you can proced to uninstall if desired08:34
glamdringsry was afk for a minute08:34
Reblendedrevelater, http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/manuals/  all of these08:34
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glamdringactually brb08:34
revelaterReblended ...08:34
revelaterReblended, is this some other conversation or what?08:35
jubeithegreedyturtle: ah ok, and using that process I can still apply my own changes to hid-core.c08:35
revelaterok who suggested i run diablo from wine?08:35
Reblendedrevelater, oh... sry I'm too tired08:35
revelaterReblended, np, i figured as much08:35
Reblendedthere's another program, revelater08:35
thegreedyturtlejubei: should be able to, i've only used it to apply patches to the kernel, if that's what you are doing08:36
revelaterReblended, like wine?08:36
revelaterReblended, is it free?08:36
Reblendedbut only for gaming, yes, revelater08:36
thegreedyturtleisn't there a way to compile it from the CVS tree?08:36
revelaterReblended, tell me this secret of yours...08:36
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ReblendedI'm looking it up... hang on08:37
revelaterk08:37
thegreedyturtlewine is GPL, so they have to release the source - they sell the packages, but anyone can go in and recompile it (i think)08:37
ReblendedI don't game, that's why I don't remember right off08:37
thegreedyturtleditto08:37
thegreedyturtlebut i have been wanting to play HL2...08:37
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, what's the gaming "emulator" for linux to play win games?08:37
thegreedyturtlecedga?08:37
thegreedyturtlewas wine, then wineX, now i think it's cedga08:38
Reblendedya08:38
jubeithegreedyturtle: So I just apply the patches b4 i run dpkg-buildpackage -B -uc -us -rfakeroot ?08:38
revelatercedega isn't free though08:38
Reblendedso hard to remember that08:38
Reblendedrevelater, not?08:38
revelaterand what about intalling08:38
thegreedyturtlei sec, im researching08:39
Reblendedhttp://www.mininova.org/tor/19408:39
johnnybe1akhey guys i'm trying to use ispell with the french dictionary, but for some reason it's not showing up the foreign characters, anyone got any ideas?08:39
transgresscedega is plenty free if you know where to look08:39
Reblended^08:39
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johnnybe1akcedega is like 5 bucks anyway so who cares08:39
Reblendednothing should be for sale when it comes to linux08:39
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revelaterk, so how do i intall it though (diablo2 that is)08:40
chazwurthReblended: The people who write the software you use have to eat too, you know.08:40
Reblendedchazwurth, it's against the gpl license, I was told?08:40
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johnnybe1akReblended: haha nope08:40
Nomikosupgraded to hoary on PPC, does anyone know if it has a suspend/sleep mode yet?08:41
chazwurthReblended: Hardly. Take a look at the FSF site and the license itself.08:41
Reblendedit's hard enough for me to pronounce SuSE, how in the world do I do Cedega?08:41
johnnybe1akReblended: think of SuSE pre-novell, YAST was what they charged for because it was proprietary08:41
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johnnybe1akReblended: you can get it off cvs for free if i remember correctly08:41
Reblendedlegally, johnnybe1ak ?08:42
transgresssee day gah08:42
revelaterhow do i install diablo2? does cedega do it for me or what?08:42
ChoubakaCedega isn't GPL08:42
Choubakait doesn't contain any GPL code.08:42
chazwurthI was about to ask that. I thought Cedega was proprietary.08:42
Reblendedjohnnybe1ak, oh you don't mean the retailer store cvs?08:42
ChoubakaAnd you _can_ sell GPL'd software.08:42
thegreedyturtleCedega can be compiled from the CVS for free08:42
ReblendedChoubaka, but you have to provide the source if it is GPL?08:42
thegreedyturtlehttp://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4508:42
chazwurthIn any case, it certainly isn't a problem to sell GPL software. What do you think Red Hat and Novell do when they charge for their distributions?08:43
ChoubakaReblended: yes08:43
thegreedyturtleprobably out of date08:43
ChoubakaI could sell you a burned ubuntu disk for $100, if you wanted to buy it.08:43
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ReblendedChoubaka, so why buy it if I can compile it?08:43
thegreedyturtleReblended: i just loaded that live cd (finally =P it really took that long)08:43
chazwurthReblended: To feed the developers?08:43
thegreedyturtlebecause it's a pain in the ars if you aren't l33708:43
Choubakathegreedyturtle: the public CVS cedega lacks many features compared to the binary cedega.08:43
thegreedyturtleaaaah08:43
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, sure is08:43
ReblendedChoubaka, so, they're not releasing the final source?08:44
chazwurthReblended: Why do people who know how to do things themselves pay for Linux distributions or donate money to developers? To support the community.08:44
revelaterman, i cannot connect to any BT trackers today...08:44
ChoubakaReblended: no08:44
ChoubakaThey don't have to.08:44
thegreedyturtleReblended, you should be able to press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a command line right?08:44
johnnybe1akChoubaka: i thought that just the DirectX stuff was prop. the other stuff is just vanilla wine no?08:44
Choubakano.08:44
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, the only thing I get is a command line08:44
thegreedyturtleReblended, that's fine08:44
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, xwindows won't load... fail gdm08:45
ChoubakaThey have forex. copy protection support, installshield support, and a lot of other stuff08:45
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thegreedyturtletype cd /etc/X11 (the capitalization is important)08:45
thegreedyturtlethen type ls08:45
chazwurthChoubaka: Do they not have some code in common with wine though? I was under the impression they did.08:45
Choubakachazwurth: yes they do08:45
space_odditygood morning!08:45
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, done08:45
Choubakabut only back when wine wasn't lgpl08:45
chazwurthChoubaka: Aah. Suddenly everything makes sense :)08:46
Choubakahttp://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Subscribing_vs_Building_from_CVS08:46
space_odditywine...08:46
Reblendedtoo many *.conf files thegreedyturtle08:46
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space_oddityI just found a site that hane winex-cedega already compiled!08:46
thegreedyturtlequick vi tutorial: when you get in, you are in 'search' mode, which lets you move around and do editing functions. so you use the arrows to move around to where you want and press the 'i' key to go into "insert" mode. do your typing and then press ESC to return to 'search mode08:46
space_oddityanione interested?08:46
revelatersure08:47
thegreedyturtleok type 'cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup08:47
thegreedyturtlewow08:47
thegreedyturtlenevermind08:47
thegreedyturtlei have no idea how to do this on a live cd...08:47
Choubakaspace_oddity: nah.08:47
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Reblendedthegreedyturtle, a lil different?08:47
ChoubakaYou'd probably be better of with vanilla wine and the experimental DX9 support patches. :D08:48
thegreedyturtlethere's nothing to write to !08:48
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Reblendedthegreedyturtle, I have a thumb drive... I can do that08:48
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Reblended=D08:48
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thegreedyturtleso you have your thumb drive mounted?08:48
thegreedyturtlewhat's it's mount point?08:48
Reblendedonly takes a sec...08:48
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space_oddityit is not a pirate version... people on this site download the source code and then compile it... so it's 100% legal08:49
Reblendedmount point? you mean /media/somethumb ?08:49
thegreedyturtleyup08:49
Olsenhow can i get the x11-xv libs for mplayer?08:49
thegreedyturtlehey, what command did you use to mount it, im going to mount mine so i can goof w' it08:49
Reblendedhow do I cp from somewhere when I am at the destination?08:49
johnnybe1akcp path/to/file/to/be/copied path/to/desination08:50
thegreedyturtlewhen you use cp blah/blah blah/whatever it uses your working directory (the directory you are in08:50
revelaterGAME CALL who plays what??08:50
thegreedyturtleif you use cp /whatever/whatever /whatever it starts from /08:50
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Reblendedk08:51
Reblendedwhat should I cp?08:51
thegreedyturtlehow did you mount your drive?08:51
Reblendedjust the xorg?08:51
thegreedyturtlei want to do it too08:51
space_odditygood night! I'll go back to sleep now :-)08:51
Reblendedpmount /dev/sda/1 something08:51
revelaternight08:51
Reblendedsry08:51
Reblendedpmount /dev/sda1  something08:51
revelaterwho play what game in linux, whats your fav game???08:51
Reblendedsomething = name whatever08:52
Reblendedrevelater, no gravity08:52
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Reblendedlooks cool revelater08:52
revelaterReblended, i can't get it to work08:52
Reblendedhttp://happypenguin.org/ revelater08:52
thegreedyturtlecan't get it to mount08:52
revelaterReblended, i have it but it gives me errors when trying to run08:52
thegreedyturtlegot a / must not appear in label name08:52
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, I had typed it wrong...  it's pmount /dev/sda1 something08:53
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Reblendedthegreedyturtle,  then type ls /media/08:53
revelaterReblended, something about missing tp.netlib modules08:53
Reblendedrevelater, it said it was a little difficult to make08:53
revelaterReblended, know how to fix it?08:53
Reblended< never played it08:53
thegreedyturtlehey that's kinda cool reblende3d08:54
Reblended=D08:54
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, give thanks to crimsun08:54
ReblendedTY crimsun !08:54
revelaterReblended, !!!! i thought you played it?!?!?!08:54
ReblendedI just said it looks cool08:54
Reblendedha!08:54
ReblendedI'm not a gamer, revelater08:54
thegreedyturtleReblended, 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /media/usbdisk/xorg.conf08:54
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thegreedyturtleyou already did that though didn' ya08:55
ReblendedI prefer to waste my time getting ubuntu to work on a sony vaio laptop08:55
Reblendednot yet, thegreedyturtle gonna now08:55
Reblendedahh08:56
ReblendedI hadn't named the file I was copying lol08:56
thegreedyturtlew00t!08:56
Reblendedwait a sec!08:56
Reblendedit's not showing up in xp08:56
Reblendedugg08:56
thegreedyturtlebut what are you tryin to do anyway?08:56
thegreedyturtlethats ok08:56
Reblendedjust copy that conf file08:56
Reblendedit shows up in linux... not in xp08:56
thegreedyturtleso you can... what?08:56
Reblendedits ok?08:56
Reblendedso I can show the guy who was gonna troubleshoot my xserver settings08:57
thegreedyturtlewhat are you trying to do with the xorg.conf file again?08:57
Reblendedsomeone wanted it08:57
thegreedyturtleaaah08:57
Reblendedto help me08:57
revelatercome on people, does anyone here play games??08:57
Reblendedsry.. I'm new08:57
=== Reblended revelater thought Reblended was playing games...
Olsenwhat is the difference between debian/ubuntu?08:58
Reblendeddifferent games08:58
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Reblendedubuntu is based on debian, right?08:58
thegreedyturtlelemmi go to an xp box, 1 sec08:58
Olseni believe so08:58
Reblendedredhat is based on rpm08:58
Reblendedok the08:58
Reblendedthegreedyturtle,08:58
ReblendedOlsen, u use linux now?08:58
Reblendedwhere is the hoary torrent?08:59
Reblendedfor live cd08:59
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LM`hi, just wanted to let you know about a brilliant warez community. It has been stopped but it reopened and looking for great users. http://www.projectws.org. Please visit. It has no spam what so ever.09:00
LM`hi, just wanted to let you know about a brilliant warez community. It has been stopped but it reopened and looking for great users. http://www.projectws.org. Please visit. It has no spam what so ever.09:00
LM`hi, just wanted to let you know about a brilliant warez community. It has been stopped but it reopened and looking for great users. http://www.projectws.org. Please visit. It has no spam what so ever.09:00
Reblendedstop flooding LM`09:00
Reblendedyou're a great example of no spam09:00
LM`sorry'09:00
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topylirevelater: i play old-school space shooters like galaga :)09:00
thegreedyturtlewell, i have bad news, i came back from my brother's xp box and it found xorg.conf without a problem09:00
Reblendedyow! thegreedyturtle09:00
ReblendedI don't know09:01
thegreedyturtletry this maybe09:01
OlsenReblended, i always used linux09:01
Reblendedcan I email from the prompt?09:01
NomikosReblended: releases at http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/09:01
Reblendeddanke, Nomikos09:01
thegreedyturtleyeah- if you have sendmail set up with mutt and all kinds of obnoxious configurations09:01
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topyliReblended: sure. there's the good old 'mail' command09:01
Reblendedwhat's elektra supposed to be?09:02
revelatertopyli:... k... have you tried mealstrom?09:02
thegreedyturtleit's like a registry for linux,09:02
Reblendedtopyli, ? I'm not able to run xwindows...09:02
Reblendedok.09:02
topylirevelater: yes, and i like it09:02
thegreedyturtletry saving it this way09:02
ReblendedI'm on the live cd and I'm wondering if I can just email from the prompt09:02
revelateryah its fun09:02
Reblendedok? thegreedyturtle09:02
aragorn2909join #kubuntu09:02
thegreedyturtletype 'vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:02
thegreedyturtlethen once that opens type09:02
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thegreedyturtle':w /media/usbdrive/xorg.conf09:03
Reblendedwith the ': ?09:03
topyliReblended: ah, i thought you really ment the command line. you can use real console mailers like mutt too09:03
Reblendedok09:03
thegreedyturtleyeah09:03
jubeithegreedyturtle: So I just apply the patches b4 i run dpkg-buildpackage -B -uc -us -rfakeroot ?09:03
Nomikosanyone know the status of sleep mode under Hoary on PPC ?09:03
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Nomikos(on Desktop, that is)09:03
thegreedyturtlethen type ;q to quit09:03
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thegreedyturtleand see if your xp box can find it09:03
topylirevelater: clanbomber is also one of the biggies. the bomberman clone09:04
thegreedyturtlethat's the only thing that i did differently than you, maybe saving it with vi does something :P09:04
Olsenwhat package should i install to get libxv?09:04
revelaterhehe, bomber man09:04
revelatergood stuff09:04
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revelaterbut i am looking for a good stratagy or rpg09:04
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jubeiOkay, thanks for your help anyway thegreedyturtle09:05
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, WARNING, output is not to the terminal09:05
topylirevelater: but the best ones seem to be a bit retro. modern games come late for linux09:05
revelaterreal time mind you, not turn based09:05
Nomikosrevelater: try freeciv ?09:05
Reblendedhmm? thegreedyturtle09:05
thegreedyturtleoops i missed that jubei09:05
jubei=)09:05
Nomikosrevelater: not sure, but it should work09:05
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revelaterNomikos, i haven't tried it, is it good?09:05
thegreedyturtleReblended, try :w! /media/usbdrive/xorg.conf09:05
thegreedyturtleyou don't have anything important on the drive right?09:06
thegreedyturtleheheh09:06
Nomikosrevelater: it's like Civilization II, from Sid Meijer09:06
Nomikos(or however you spell that)09:06
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thegreedyturtlejubei: where are you again?09:06
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, I think it's stuck09:06
revelaterNomikos, never played civ 209:06
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Reblendedthegreedyturtle, just a flashing cursor... nothing else on that line09:06
thegreedyturtleaw bum09:06
Nomikosrevelater: played simcity?09:06
Reblendedwhat's the break command  like ctrl c09:07
thegreedyturtleyeah09:07
jubeithegreedyturtle: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelBuildpackageHowto09:07
revelaterNomikos, yes, and i have lincity09:07
revelaterNomikos, just doenloaded it a little while ago09:07
topylirevelater: freeciv is very nice and mature. for a simulation (transport tycoon type) try simutrans09:07
Nomikosrevelater: or hmm.. not too similar actually.. you settle a world in the Civs, moving around with settlers and founding cities, building armies and improvements, inventing techs..09:07
jinx``i've done a "df -h" and it says: 7.8G used. But when i add the different values "du --max-depth=1" gives me, a lot more than 7.8G seem to be installed09:08
Nomikosrevelater: until you contact other players, then you can trade or make war, or ally etc..it's pretty extensive09:08
revelaterfreeciv?09:08
topyliyes! yes!09:08
Nomikoshttp://www.freeciv.org/09:09
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revelateralright... i will download it...09:09
revelaterNomikos, btw, you ever try wesnoth?09:09
topylirevelater: you can apt-get it09:09
Nomikosrevelater: wesnoth, no?09:09
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rj__man was it a bad idea to upgrade to breezy, lol.09:10
topylirevelater: linux myth number 1: "no games"09:10
thegreedyturtlejubei: sounds right to me, i didn't do it that way, but it looks right,   QUICK TIP!!  Make SURE that you have your filesystem and the keyboard added to the kernel!!09:10
revelaterNomikos, battle for wesnoth i think it is09:10
Nomikosrevelater: genre?09:10
thegreedyturtlebecause kernel compiles take a bloody long time and it really sucks when it can't mount / cuz it can't recognize ext309:10
revelaterstrategy09:11
thegreedyturtleReblended: i'm at a wall09:11
rj__http://flashchat.net/~rj/Screenshot.png09:11
revelaterNomikos, search under highest rated09:11
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, np... it's my 100th wall09:11
rj__^ what happend in breezy tonight09:11
Nomikosrevelater: looking at the site now09:11
thegreedyturtleReblended, it sounds like it's having problems writing to your usb drive for some reason09:11
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, I just gotta get a slik computer like my sis has09:11
revelaterNomikos, if using happypenguin09:11
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, what's vi?09:11
topylirevelater: apt line for always latest wesnoth packages: deb http://debian.wesnoth.org/sid/ ./09:12
rj__my entire desktop is wacked out, theres lines all over the place etc. weird screen corruption happens when i move applications around etc.09:12
thegreedyturtleReblended, maybe, if you are still set on working with it use a small partition?09:12
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thegreedyturtleReblended, vi is a command line text editing program09:12
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, hmm... I should just burn another live cd...09:12
rj__and to think, all i seen was python updates in breezy earlier09:12
Reblended`vi starts it up? thegreedyturtle09:12
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thegreedyturtlevi /path/to/file09:12
thegreedyturtlecourse, you can't save it on the live cd!09:13
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jinx``i've done a "df -h" and it says: 7.8G used. But when i do "du --max-depth=1 -hc"  a lot more than 7.8G seems to be installed (8.7G)09:13
revelatertopyli: ./ under dist?09:13
topyliReblended: just remember, using vi is not a sin. it's a penance :)09:13
topylirevelater: yes09:13
thegreedyturtlevi is not penance :(09:13
crimsunsure it is. vim is salvation.09:13
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topylithegreedyturtle: that's just what RMS says :)09:13
jubeithegreedyturtle: ext3 ntfs and us keyboard arnt allready in there?09:14
thegreedyturtle:P i see where you are going now09:14
topylihehe09:14
thegreedyturtlejubei: no, and i learned that the hard way09:14
topylian editor war a day :)09:14
thegreedyturtlei've never used vi09:14
Reblended5.04?09:14
thegreedyturtlejust vim09:14
revelatertopyli: my biggest problem with wesnoth, is that i can never win, not in the time amounted09:15
thegreedyturtleReblended: maybe even try the warty warthog09:15
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Reblendedcould be09:15
topylirevelater: well, i have that same problem with many games :)09:15
thegreedyturtlei just couldn't put the time into westnoth09:15
jubeithegreedyturtle: after I install my kernal package will I be able to boot my OLD kernel?09:15
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daileof course you can, as long as you keep the GRUB entry for it09:16
topylithegreedyturtle: true, they take time. i don't have it so i end up playing xgalaga :)09:16
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Reblendedboy I love torrents... 180k/s on 37 seeds... this on wifiG!09:16
Reblended5.04 live09:17
jinx``no one likes to answer my question?09:17
jinx``:>09:17
revelatertopyli: http://debian.wesnoth.org/sid/ you sure tahts correct?09:17
topylirevelater: yes. and ./09:17
thegreedyturtlejubei: if the package name is exactly the same as your current kernel, it might overwrite it, it shouldn't do it without asking you though - i haven't dealt with that, but kpkg usually gives it an odd name anyway, so it should be a nonissue09:17
revelatertopyli: its not getting it...09:18
transgressokay running x and different programs fairly constantly w/o hibernating or anything it seems i'll get about 2 hours on my lappy09:18
thegreedyturtlejube: so to answer your question, yes you can09:18
jubeiok sweet09:18
revelatertopyli: is it bin or source?09:18
thegreedyturtlejubei: just be sure when you edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst not to delete the ubuntu stuff already in there09:18
topylirevelater: it's the binary09:18
revelatertopyli: not getting it...09:18
topylirevelater: you sure you apt-get updated?09:18
Reblendedok... < too tired to work on lcd problem...09:18
revelatertopyli: using synaptic09:19
topyliwell, refresh then09:19
jubeithegreedyturtle: so how do I add support for ext3 ntfs and a us keyboard? Does it mention that in the howto http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelBuildpackageHowto ?09:19
revelatertopyli: it couldn't connect...09:19
Reblendedsynaptic... nice gui09:19
topylirevelater: hrm. let me see if it works here09:19
dailejube: hehe that was for you " of course you can, as long as you keep the GRUB entry for it"09:19
Reblendedwhy so many spammers now? advertising sites, etc?09:19
ReblendedGrub is only for partitioning? yes? daile ?09:20
EvilIdlerReblended: Because the world is turning stupid09:20
ReblendedEvilIdler, I guess09:20
thegreedyturtlejubei: when you run xconfig, you have to turn on (not module) the selection under filesystems(ithink) ext3(or whatever you used, ext3 is default)09:20
dailejubei: oh no, it's used to boot different versions of your kernels too09:20
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topylirevelater: my apt finds the wesnoth source...09:20
transgressi wonder how much more battery i'd get if i didn't use gnome and used something lighter09:20
thegreedyturtlegrub stands for Grand Unified Boot Loader09:20
jubeidaile: I didnt ask you that =)09:21
thegreedyturtleit's what sits on your master boot record and tells your box where and how to boot09:21
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dailehehe09:21
jubeiHEH09:21
revelatertopyli: re post what you have then09:21
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revelatertopyli: just to be sure09:21
dailejubei: This is the first time I use this chanel, so I just want to test it!09:21
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, thx,, I remember it does that... never did it09:21
daile:)09:21
jubeiHEH09:21
Reblendedthey won't let me talk in ##linux09:21
topylirevelater: the whole line in quotes: "deb http://debian.wesnoth.org/sid/ ./"09:21
jinx`` i've done a "df -h" and it says: 7.8G used. But when i do "du --max-depth=1 -hc"  a lot more than 7.8G seems to be installed (8.7G)! why? :D09:22
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thegreedyturtlecan't say i know anything 'bout df09:22
odysseydf?09:22
Dreamer3jubei: difference in counting09:22
revelatertopyli: maybe the ./ if for sections?09:22
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Dreamer3jinx``: df is correct09:22
topylirevelater: check your sources.list file directly. we never know what synaptic does :)09:22
jubeiHmmm, why is everyone talking to me =)09:22
ReblendedMorning all09:23
thegreedyturtlejubei: it's gotta be the shoes09:23
jinx``why?09:23
jubeikekek09:23
Reblendedred ruby09:23
Dreamer3jinx``: *shrugs*09:23
jinx``:(09:23
Dreamer3jinx``: why worry?09:23
dailemaybe, because jubei is a very easy and short name, it's easier to write your name!09:23
jinx``that's almost 1 gig09:23
odysseyjubei, what shoes are you wearing?09:23
Reblendedreb < only three letters to type with left hand09:23
revelatertopyli: i thikn it worked, whats your most current version?09:24
Dreamer3jinx``: ok? and?09:24
Dreamer3jinx``: the space used it used, regardless of how it's repored09:24
Dreamer3jinx``: you can't "have it back"09:24
jinx``i don't like it when my diskspace disappears09:24
topylirevelater: 0.8.11-109:24
Dreamer3jinx``: *laughs*09:24
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jinx``:>09:24
Dreamer3jinx``: it's a counting thing09:24
Reblendedjinx``, xp does that too.. but it's for prefetch and hiberfiles etc09:24
jubeiWill I have to reconfigure my nvida drivers after I boot the new kernel? Will X even start?09:24
revelateryah, it works now, thanks...09:24
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revelaternow to try out freeciv...09:25
Reblendedstop pounding your harddrive, jinx`` =p09:25
revelatercya all!09:25
topylirevelater: ok. now we won't see you for days :)09:25
Dreamer3revelater: i need to get that again :)09:25
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Reblendedlol topyli09:25
thegreedyturtlea palm leaf09:26
thegreedyturtleoops09:26
thegreedyturtlemistype09:26
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Reblendedis there a way in Azureus to see a map of the file and what parts are completed?09:27
elcuanyone feel like recommending any of the games in the repo?  (too much choice!)09:28
thegreedyturtlejubei: i have no freakin clue =P09:28
Reblendedif I stop a torrent... do I have to start over?09:28
topylielcu: everyone has prefernences. i play clanbomber most of the time09:28
thegreedyturtlejube: as far as will X even start, you won't know if linux will even start until you actually try out that new kernel! but you can fallback and try again09:29
NomikosReblended: no, torrents can pick up where they left of09:29
jrfnop, you dont have to start over09:29
elcutopyli: i've tried it.  not to my liking :)09:29
ReblendedNomikos, thx! cool, jrf thanks. aww09:29
Nomikoshmm.. must come back here sometime, bedtime for now :-)09:30
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Reblendedk09:30
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elcutopyli: i prefer my snes bomberman roms09:30
Reblendedso can't resume torrents09:30
Tirn1hi09:30
Reblendedhi09:30
Tirn1I recently installed ubuntu on a laptop09:30
Tirn1I'm having trouble with the touchpad09:31
topylielcu: it's true though. there are so many games in the debian repositories, you should have years of free time before you find out what you like09:31
Tirn1it worked out of the box09:31
ReblendedDoes BitTorrent support resuming?09:31
ReblendedYes, just save your download to the same location as the existing partial download. BitTorrent will resume where it left off after checking the partial download.09:31
Reblendedplug in a usb mouse, Tirn1 , I hate anything less. =] 09:31
Tirn1but the border acceleration is too fast. This is a pain with drag and drop and scrolling09:31
Tirn1I actually really like my touchpad09:31
Tirn1strange as it may seem09:31
Reblendedheh better than those eraser thingies09:32
Tirn1yah09:32
jubeiYou can resum torrents09:32
jubeithose statements are true09:32
Reblendedgreat jubei !09:32
Tirn1The mouse-dialog doesn't seem to have the advanced settings09:32
jrfyes, you only have to download the same file and it will check what yoy have downloaded09:32
ReblendedI wonder if azureus would support it09:32
Reblendedic09:32
jubeiat least you can with azureues. my fave bittorrent client09:32
Tirn1and google doesn't seem to be much help09:32
jubeiyes it does =)09:32
Reblendedwoo09:32
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jubeieven if you move files from one pc 2 another09:33
Tirn1so basically, where do I find the mouse driver configurations?09:33
Reblendedthat's what's missing! advanced settings! I only get wep for wireless encryption, not wpa...09:33
Tirn1wpa is there09:33
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ReblendedooH?09:33
Tirn1but disactivated, no?09:33
Tirn1it sez at boot time09:33
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Reblendedthegreedyturtle aww, I miss him09:33
Reblendedic09:33
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Tirn1wpa_supplicant disactivated09:33
testim still here09:33
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ReblendedTirn1, yes... I remember now.. there is a wiki for that09:34
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, wb thegreedyturtle09:34
Reblendedooh I love torrents...09:34
Reblendedzoom past the slower downloaders and help too09:34
thegreedyturtlei loved Azureus, but i just couldn't take it's bloat09:35
Reblendedonly like 5 megs?09:36
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thegreedyturtlei remember it slowing my machine down a lot more than ABC09:36
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kakaltois there a guide to joypad support under ubuntu?09:37
babylonmsg nickserv set hide email on09:37
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Reblendedis there a way I can get an adaptor to use my old joysticks with usb?09:38
thegreedyturtleprobably not09:38
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Reblended$$09:38
kakaltoanyone?09:38
thegreedyturtlebut you *could* go out and buy an old sound card with game port for a dollar fiddy09:39
kakaltohehe09:39
kakaltomy ol' comp has one o' those09:39
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, ooh! come on over and install it in my laptop. please?09:39
Reblended=p09:39
babylon /msg nickserv link babylon 562883009:39
thegreedyturtleReblended, sure, let me get my sodering iron09:39
Jim7J1AJHReblended:  Yes, they exist.  Belkin (among others) sells them.09:39
Reblendedrofl thegreedyturtle09:39
Reblendedty Jim7J1AJH !  woot.. now I can use my MIDI cable09:39
jinx``with du -x it works09:40
Reblendedoooh, cheap too, TY again Jim7J1AJH09:40
jinx``now my question, why?09:40
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Reblendedjust kidding09:41
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revelaterhey, i installed freeciv, but how do i run it?09:42
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revelater?09:42
Reblendedls -a ?09:42
revelatercan't find it anywhere09:42
topylirevelater: it's a server-client program. you need to run the server first in an xterm, then the client09:42
Reblendedlocate freecif09:42
Reblendedfreeciv09:42
revelaterok, where do i run the server09:43
kakaltooh09:43
revelater?09:43
kakaltoI didn't realise09:43
Reblendedfunny? topyli I didn't have to do that in xp09:43
kakaltothere's no need for a joypad howto09:43
xmmshi, can anybody tell me the difference among "hoary", "kunbuntu" , "warty" and 5.0.4 ?09:43
topylirevelater: like 'civserver' and 'civclient-gtk'09:43
Upayaviraxmms: hoary = 5.0.409:44
Upayaviraxmms: warty = previous release before hoary09:44
xmmsUpayavira, any how about the others . ?09:44
Upayaviraxmms: kubuntu = ubuntu hoary - gnome + kde09:44
balorxmms: kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE rather than GNOME09:44
xmmsUpayavira, many thx.09:45
xmms;)09:45
revelatertopyli: i cann't start, aren't enough players?!?!09:45
thegreedyturtleis there a live kubuntu?09:45
xmmsUpayavira, is hoary marked stable ?09:45
Upayavirayes as of a week or so.09:45
thegreedyturtleoooo09:45
xmmsgreate. I will try it on my T42 laptop.09:46
revelatertopyli: i thinki am getting it now09:46
topylirevelater: in the server, do something like 'set aifill 5' so when you connect, it will add 4 AI players09:46
Upayavirathegreedyturtle: yes was to hoary being live, not to live kubuntu. Don't know that.09:46
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topylirevelater: then do 'start' in the server and the game will begin09:46
Reblendedthegreedyturtle,   =D09:47
Reblendedthegreedyturtle,  gonna get this next  http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent09:47
thegreedyturtleUpayavira, i just found it, google kubuntu live09:47
thegreedyturtleerr what he said09:47
Reblendedlol09:47
thegreedyturtle;)09:47
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xmmsReblended, is there somepackage optimized for i686 ?09:48
=== Reblended I love it when people mistake me for a guru =]
Reblendedsry xmms09:48
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geargolemhelp09:49
thegreedyturtlei686?09:49
Reblendedme09:49
xmmsReblended, someday it will have I think09:49
geargolemmount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist09:49
Reblended=] 09:49
topylixmms: there's a 686 kernel, but everything else is compiled for 38609:49
thegreedyturtleis 686 64 bit?09:50
topylithegreedyturtle: no, it's pentium 3 and 4 IIRC09:50
xmmstopyli, something should changed. I think09:50
thegreedyturtlek09:50
geargolemunable to mount volume09:51
Reblendedoh cool.... an airstick?09:51
geargolemon cdrom09:51
Reblendedmount? ride em cowboy!09:51
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revelatertopyli, is there a remte server i can connect to?09:52
topylixmms: it's hard to compile a different distro for every machine. then we'd need an athlon build as well, and whatnot09:52
topylirevelater: i guess people have them. never tried myself09:53
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geargolemcdrom volume will not mount :(09:53
elcuhello, is there any way to upgrade specific packages?  i'm stll running warty and only want to upgrade xchat, but it doesn't signal that it is upgradeable in synaptic.09:54
geargolemelcu enable universe in synaptic 'preferences'09:54
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elcugeargolem: there's isn't anything in the preferences dialog to enable universe.09:56
elcugeargolem: besides, i have already enabled universe09:56
geargolemsudo apt-get install xchat work?09:57
elcu"xchat is already the newest version."09:57
revelatertopyli, hey... how do iplay?09:58
elcubut it's not: 2.0.809:58
revelatertopyli, how do ibuild a city,a nd how do i move players09:58
geargolemdownload it from the website and ./configure elcu09:58
revelater?09:58
geargolemthen $make    then $make install09:58
sageekI'm using beep media player with the es driver, so mp3 will work, anyhow mplayer won't run since he uses oss, [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy09:58
sageekalsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default09:58
sageek, any clue how i can fix it?09:58
elcuthe source?09:59
geargolemelcu, yes09:59
Reblendedthegreedyturtle, later man!09:59
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ReblendedReM sleep  RexM?09:59
thegreedyturtlelater10:00
RexM|Asleep?10:00
thegreedyturtleim off too10:00
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geargolemneed help with cdrom volume not mounting10:00
thegreedyturtlei responded a little late ;P10:00
Xeon3DI can't burn any DVD's with speeds > 1x. It seems UltraDMA is disabled. I saw somewhere that there was a wiki about this...10:00
elcugeargolem: should i uninstall this old xchat first?10:00
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geargolemelcu , no the install should append it10:01
elcurighto.  thanks.10:01
geargolem:P10:01
topylirevelater: well, you need to study a bit, there's a help menu :)10:02
geargolemogra, cdrom volume will not mount10:02
ogrageargolem, ??10:02
geargolemwhen accessing cdrom, i get mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist10:03
sageekcan i make mplayer use esound?10:03
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Juhazmplayer -ao esd10:04
elcugeargolem: i assume that process will work for other programs?10:04
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Xeon3Dhow can I set DMA on on every drive? and how can I improve IDE performance?10:05
geargolemelcu, yes.  but apt-get install when you can for sanity's sake :P10:05
topylisageek: yes. i don't know the command line option but there's an option in the gui preferences at least10:05
topyliah. Juhaz knows10:05
geargolemor sudo apt-get install if you aren't root10:05
sageekIt's mplayer -ao esd10:06
elcugeargolem: yep, :) i'm not that much of a noob.10:06
sageektho i don't have esd support on mplayer10:06
sageekjust noticed.10:06
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geargolem:P10:06
liableXeon3D: hdparm, be carefull with it but10:06
sageekI can't use anything but eSound on beep media player, if i try to use alsa it like stuck the whole sys10:07
St0n3-C0lHey guys...There some prob with mplayer10:07
St0n3-C0lwhen I watch movie in full screen10:07
St0n3-C0lit goes in Full screen mode but show the movie in normal size10:08
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liableSt0n3-C0l: change video drivers in mplayer10:08
pokute-vo xv10:08
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St0n3-C0laham10:09
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pokuteSt0n3-C0l, look in settings, you can select the video driver10:14
pokuteselect xv, and test :)10:14
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St0n3-C0lpokute and liable thanks i'll try ;)10:16
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BolgaHi all !10:20
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MyNameIsChrisBolga, Howdy10:20
BolgaWhat would be for you the simplier and more professional (but nice) cell phone message recorder ?10:20
ChoubakaHm.10:20
ChoubakaHow can I prevent ubuntu from loading pcspkr module in boot?10:21
ChoubakaI think it's being loaded by hotplug :/10:21
ChoubakaI _hate_ the pc speaker.10:21
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Olsendisconnect that on your motherboard10:22
liableChoubaka: blacklist it in hotplug and discover, or you could just turn the volume down10:22
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dellahi10:22
dellaanyone has successfully used webdav under nautilus?10:22
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spo0nman[offtopic]  does anyone has a recomendation for a sub $200 digicam?10:24
Choubakaliable: hmm10:25
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Olsenwhat is a good cd/dvd burner program?10:30
Olseni know cdrecord, but i mean a GUI tool10:30
Olsens/cdrecord/cdrtools10:31
MyNameIsChrisOlsen, cdrecord owns but K3B?10:31
St0n3-C0lcdrecord command-line is good ;)10:31
St0n3-C0land K3B too10:31
St0n3-C0lGnomebaker too.10:31
Olsenyeah i like cdrecord, i was just asking :)10:31
St0n3-C0lgnomebaker uses cdrecord10:31
Olseni know k3b is good, but i'm with gnome, and i don't wanna install qt/kdelibs10:32
Olsenok10:32
Rimawhy is it that ubuntu out of the box, looks so much more finished that kubuntu - the default font / size is horrid10:32
lizdeikaubuntu is older10:32
lizdeikasecond release10:32
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OlsenRima, you mean the default font on kubuntu?10:33
nixboxhi all10:33
nixboxbob2, hi10:33
RimaOlsen, yeah just comparing out of the box.. ubuntu is way more pleasent to look at10:33
Olseni agree10:33
eaonmuch more finished than or that kubuntu?10:33
lizdeikaat least for me warty wasnt too good too10:33
Olsendoes gnome 2.10 comes with this font by default?10:34
RimaIm running kubuntu now, have to admit I am very close to re-installing ubuntu10:34
eaonis it bitstream vera?10:34
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St0n3-C0lI agree, GNOME 2.10 rocks but Kubuntu comes with menueditor :P10:34
eaonthe ubuntu default theme i mean10:35
St0n3-C0lThankgod I haven't removed my GNOME 2.10 yet10:35
eaonif that uses bitstream10:35
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Olseni used kde before but i love gnome 2.10 now and i tryed kde 3.4 but i prefer gnome 2.1010:35
Olseni like others DE's WM's too... one of my favorite is enlightenment 0.17 ;)10:36
St0n3-C0lOlsen: I used KDE 5-6months before and after that GNOME but using KDE again atm10:36
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Olsenok :)10:36
Xeon3Dtrue.. and ubuntu has a LOT less bugs than kubuntu (i've tried them both)10:36
Olseni feel that kde is more customizable... but i like the usability of gnome10:37
Xeon3Din kubuntu my <  key wont work10:37
Xeon3Dno matter what I do.10:37
Rimaok guys you've convinced me... ubuntu it is - off to reinstall10:37
Rima:)10:37
St0n3-C0lOlsen: Goal...:P10:37
Xeon3Dany other key works. :P even accented ltt?s10:37
Xeon3D:P10:37
OlsenSt0n3-C0l, ? :)10:37
St0n3-C0lyou spoke the truth :>10:37
Xeon3Danyways .. I'm off to bed (9.30 AM here)10:37
Xeon3Dc ya guys10:38
OlsenSt0n3-C0l, i'm glad :)10:38
eaonOlsen: right - kde is heading towards customisability ("we don't design - we let our users do it") wheras gnome is trying to keep everything usable10:38
St0n3-C0lRima: LOL10:38
St0n3-C0lRima: why not apt-get ?10:38
St0n3-C0lXeon3D: LOL10:38
St0n3-C0lOlsen ;)10:38
Olsen:)10:38
Juhazeaon, yes, it's bitstream vera sans10:38
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eaonaye10:39
ircbot_is there a shortcut to go between desktops in gnome?10:39
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Juhazctrl+alt+arrowkeys10:39
St0n3-C0lircbot_: Click on Desktop and then ALT+TAB10:40
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St0n3-C0lnot on Linux10:40
eaoni know this is a strange thing to ask, but does anyone here have an ie that he could "borrow" me? i have done a best-practice implementation of the www.ubuntu.com skin for plone and i need to test it a bit10:40
Olsendamn... i'm losing hair :((10:40
St0n3-C0lOlsen: Stop masterbating :P] 10:41
OlsenLOL :P10:41
Olsenhaha10:42
St0n3-C0lkidding eh10:42
ircbot_oh wow using gnome-terminal kinda kills fast switching on irssi10:42
St0n3-C0lbut really...it'll ruin our life10:42
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Morriguhi10:42
Olsenhm... what is the root password on ubuntu?10:42
ircbot_Olsen: there isn't one10:43
St0n3-C0lOlsen: sudo :P10:43
MorriguIs there a way to prevent Places from showing all my mounts ?10:43
St0n3-C0lput the ur username pass10:43
Olsenthere isn't root?10:43
ircbot_Olsen: sudo is used for everything but if you are like me and really want a root password do sudo passwd root10:43
Olseni never used sudo, what is it?10:43
St0n3-C0lOlsen: there is but disabled, to enable it sudo passwd root10:43
MorriguSuper User DO10:43
ircbot_Olsen: google root ubuntu10:43
Olsenok10:43
ircbot_Olsen: you'll need to read that10:44
snowblinkOlsen, sudo <superusercommand>10:44
St0n3-C0lhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root10:44
St0n3-C0llol10:44
St0n3-C0lthe link is in the topic10:44
St0n3-C0lhaha10:44
Olsenthx everyone ;)10:44
St0n3-C0lhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo10:44
ircbot_np10:44
ircbot_the whole no root thing confused me10:44
ircbot_ but eh i don't really use su even though i set up the password10:44
Morriguhow do i configure the places panel ?10:45
St0n3-C0llol10:45
ircbot_Olsen: you can also sudo -s to get into an su equiv10:45
St0n3-C0lbut ircbot10:45
ircbot_but what?10:45
St0n3-C0ldo u feel that after su enabled...sudo requires password more frequently ?10:45
ircbot_St0n3-C0l: yes10:45
Olsenso the user account that i created has administrative rights using 'sudo' right?10:45
snowblinkSt0n3-C0l, you can set the timeout10:45
ircbot_St0n3-C0l: i kind of like that10:45
St0n3-C0lme too :P10:45
St0n3-C0lOlsen: Yes :P10:46
snowblinkOlsen, first account, yes10:46
St0n3-C0lyou're learning quickly ;)10:46
Olsencool :))10:46
ircbot_how do you set the timeout for sudo?10:46
Olsenheh10:46
OlsenSt0n3-C0l, i used linux before :P10:46
St0n3-C0lsame question was in my mind ircbot_ :P10:46
Olsenbut never ubuntu10:46
St0n3-C0lcopy cat hah10:46
St0n3-C0leh..10:47
snowblinkircbot_, man sudoers10:47
St0n3-C0lI am in debian-based distros from 3-4 months10:47
St0n3-C0lsnowblink thanks :P10:47
ircbot_snowblink: thanks... and also is there a way to disable su after you enable it?10:47
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Moe|Joe|chello people10:47
nixboxi am having problems upgrading from warty to hoary, i had changed my sources.list to point to hoary repositories, then i did sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but it didnt upgrade rather it says that there 22 packages that have not been upgraded along with 0 newly installed and 0 removed, what could be the problem and how can i resolve it?10:47
Olseni used slackware and lfs a lot...10:47
St0n3-C0ldo anybody uses gdesklets here ?10:47
snowblinkircbot_, yes - you just lock the root account10:47
Olseni tryed ubuntu because everyone was doing it :)10:48
St0n3-C0lircbot_: sudo passwd -1 root10:48
St0n3-C0lor sudo passwd -l root10:48
Moe|Joe|ci jus installed hoary on my laptop and wen i goto log into ubuntu..nothing happens...10:48
St0n3-C0lits sudo passwd -l root10:48
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OlsenSt0n3-C0l, where are you from?10:48
snowblinkOlsen, If you've done LFS, then Ubuntu should be a breeze10:48
Olsensnowblink, it is :)10:49
Olseni did a lot10:49
St0n3-C0lPakistan10:49
Olsenand i'm planing to do it again10:49
Olseni'm from paraguay :)10:49
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ircbot_nice10:49
Olseni'm probably the only one from my country on this network :P10:49
St0n3-C0lnixbox: Hey ;)10:49
snowblinkOlsen, no creo.10:49
nixboxSt0n3-C0l, which city?10:50
St0n3-C0lnixbox: Khi ?10:50
St0n3-C0lOlsen: eh :P10:50
nixboxSt0n3-C0l, I am from Islamabad10:50
ircbot_herm need to find a way to quick switch in irssi in gnome-terminal...10:50
Olsenand no one probably knows what ubuntu is on my country :P10:50
St0n3-C0lkhi10:50
nixboxok10:50
SionideOlsen - in that case, it's YOUR job to spread the word.10:51
snowblinkOlsen, stick around. I've seen lots of people from SAmerica10:51
Moe|Joe|ccan anyone help me?10:51
nixboxhey snowblink10:51
St0n3-C0lhow to get ident@registerednick.user10:51
St0n3-C0lnixbox: ahan10:51
snowblinknixbox, hallo10:51
Olsensnowblink, really?10:51
Moe|Joe|ci jus installed hoary on my laptop and wen i goto log into ubuntu..gnome doesnt load up or nething10:51
nixboxsnowblink, i am still stuck in upgrading warty to hoary10:51
snowblinkOlsen, si. :)10:52
ircbot_there we go10:52
OlsenSionide, i'm doing that :) i already distributed some cds with hoary to my friends10:52
Sionidegood stuff, well done10:52
snowblinknixbox, did you install any packages yourself (dpkg -i)?10:52
St0n3-C0lnibox: try to use Synaptic ?10:52
nixboxsnowblink, no because, i want to upgrade to hoary first10:52
Olsenand i got a job in a little enterprise here, i need to do migration from windows -> linux and i picked ubuntu for that10:52
snowblinknixbox, I meant under warty10:53
nixboxsnowblink, dpkg would only install a single package10:53
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Olsenubuntu for the desktop10:53
nixboxsnowblink, no I didn't try10:53
snowblinknixbox, I know10:53
snowblinknixbox, I am wondering if in your entire warty experience if you ever installed a package not from the standard repositories10:53
Olsenhow can root exist on my system and be desactivated?10:54
nixboxsnowblink, when my sources.list were pointing to warty repositories, I had done sudo apt-get update, and then i changed the repositories to that of hoary, again did an apt-get update followed by dist-upgrade, but only ended up with 22 packages that have not been upgraded, lots of packages have unmet dependencies10:54
Olsenhow you desactivate an account?10:54
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St0n3-C0lOlsen: root account ?10:55
nixboxsnowblink, entire is too big a world for my 3rd day using warty :P10:55
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nixboxs/world/word10:55
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OlsenSt0n3-C0l, yes... root exist on ubuntu right? i understand is desactivated...10:56
ircbot_okay i finally got my music to play10:56
ircbot_but now all my other sounds are fucked10:56
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St0n3-C0lOlsen: yeah it is10:56
OlsenSt0n3-C0l, but how can be desactivated? and you how desactivate an account?10:56
snowblinknixbox, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23624&page=1&pp=1010:56
Morriguplease someone tell me how to prevent Places-menu from showing all my mounted porn-shares :P10:56
snowblinkOlsen, it's locked10:57
Olsenok10:57
St0n3-C0lOlsen: sudo passwd root10:57
snowblinkOlsen, sudo passwd -l root (as St0n3-C0l pointed out earlier)10:57
Olsenah ok :)10:58
snowblinkOlsen, that locks the account10:58
Olsenthx10:58
_Pomhi10:58
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snowblinkMorrigu, don't mount them. ;)10:58
St0n3-C0lohh10:59
St0n3-C0lhe wanted to Deactivate :P10:59
snowblinkMorrigu, it is possible I think if you dive into regedit10:59
Olsenwhy ubuntu was started?10:59
_Pomnew versioon of SPLASHY.... youhouuuu11:00
snowblinkOlsen, Debian with latest goodies11:00
Morrigusnowblink : well not mounting pr0n is not an option! ;D11:00
Olsenok11:00
St0n3-C0lwhy or when ?11:00
Olsenit has the same philosophy?11:00
St0n3-C0lohh :P11:00
Morrigusnowblink : I was able to prevent mounts from showing on my desktop by editing "registry" (configuration editor?), but haven't found anything related to Places-menu11:00
OlsenSt0n3-C0l, why and when :P11:00
snowblinkOlsen, WRT what packages? Yes.11:00
ircbot_okay so does the nvidia nforce3 audio support just suck?  or is there something badly configured or what?11:01
Olsenlatest goodies? do you mean that ubuntu is always using the latest software?11:01
snowblinkMorrigu, Hmmm. Not sure then.11:01
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snowblinkOlsen, certainly more recent than Deadian stable11:01
Olsenok11:02
St0n3-C0lWhen I use firefox and tries to browse any site...after sometime firefox starts sucking 100% resources of ur CPU....anybody else having this prob ?11:02
snowblinkSt0n3-C0l, flash?11:02
St0n3-C0lsnowblink: got the flash plugin but non-flash sites11:03
ircbot_must make sound work!11:04
St0n3-C0lmozilla-browser...and galeon both doesnot behave like this11:04
Olsendamn no xv driver on mplayer...11:04
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_Pomfor firefox... dissable the ipv6 support11:04
ircbot_okay i had sound working on everything but music11:05
ircbot_got music working and now no sound11:05
_Pomtyping about:config in the adress bar11:05
ircbot_is there a process i possibly killed that i might be needing for sound again?11:05
St0n3-C0lu killed the process of Olsen :P11:05
St0n3-C0lhaha11:06
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St0n3-C0lircbot_: haha stop killing processes :P11:06
ircbot_St0n3-C0l: well i was goofing around and got my music to work11:06
ircbot_now i can't make anything else work11:06
St0n3-C0lreboot ?11:06
ircbot_on linux?11:06
St0n3-C0lcheck volume level11:06
ircbot_you're a freak11:06
ircbot_volume is up11:07
St0n3-C0land see if anything is muted11:07
St0n3-C0lPCM ?11:07
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St0n3-C0lthe same thing happened with me 1week before11:07
ircbot_no nothing is muted11:07
ircbot_i can have sound11:08
ircbot_like say i play music11:08
ircbot_or run esd11:08
St0n3-C0lI don't understand why Ubuntu is not allowing users to install any other version of kernel rather than their own kernel 2.6.8-511:08
St0n3-C0l2.6.10-511:08
pixil9Why can't you?11:08
Dull404Does enabling "hoary-security universe" mean use security updates for packages that I have installed from "universe" or for "all packages on my computer" ??11:08
St0n3-C0lhmm11:08
liableircbot_: stop whatever is using the sound card and try the new process then11:08
Phreakazoidthere seems to be a 2.6.11 kernel in my apt repositories11:09
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ircbot_liable: i did stop using it11:09
ircbot_it was xmms11:09
Phreakazoidbut no corresponding other kernel packages at all11:09
pixil9good cards.11:09
Phreakazoidso its of absolutely no use11:09
Phreakazoidhm11:09
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pixil9Compile it from ftp.kernel.org11:09
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BurgundaviaDull404, hoary security-universe is for universe security updates. Don't expect any, would be what I would say11:10
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Olsengnome, metacity, etc already make use of the composite extension for eye candy?11:10
Burgundaviapixil9, I would not recommend running a stock kernel11:10
St0n3-C0lpixil9: I installed from ubuntu's repos...kernel 2.6.10-5-68611:10
Phreakazoidnowait11:10
Phreakazoidits fixed now11:10
Phreakazoidyay!11:10
St0n3-C0lwhen I booted..Kernel panic11:10
St0n3-C0llol11:10
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pixil9Burgundavia, why11:10
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ircbot_i wish i could put an sb live in this box11:10
ircbot_it's what i use on my desktop11:10
ircbot_but this is a lappy11:10
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Burgundaviapixil9, Vendor kernels are far more stable11:10
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pixil9being an ubuntu kernel?11:11
Burgundaviayep11:11
Burgundaviathe kernel you get from apt-get source kernelnumber11:11
pixil9they're the same kernels are they not? lol11:11
Dull404Burgundavia, ok good. I was afraid enabling hoary security-universe would be able to update stuff from main/restricted11:11
Burgundaviapixil9, no, very different11:11
pixil9o11:11
pixil9how?11:11
Burgundaviathere are no 2 kernels in the world that look the same11:11
Burgundaviadifferent patches11:12
Burgundaviadifferent modules11:12
Olsenwoww... my mother asked me if i can teach her to use linux... LOL ='D...11:12
pixil9Well ya you could compile a kernel with the right support and I think it'd be fine.11:12
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BurgundaviaI still would compile a kernel from my vendor11:12
Burgundaviaas it is designed to work with the rest of my system11:12
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ircbot_they don't make pcmcia sound cards by chance do they?11:13
St0n3-C0lOlsen: Sure...Teaching someone is the best profession in the world11:13
pixil9i think so11:13
ircbot_i can still open and play xmms immediately11:14
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ircbot_but no normal everyday ubuntu sounds11:14
St0n3-C0lBurgundavia: But why kernel panic ??11:14
OlsenSt0n3-C0l, indeed :))11:14
pixil9http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/22/review_creative_audigy_2_zs/11:14
pixil9thats pcmcia heh11:14
liableircbot_: are you just stopping play on xmms or killing it?11:14
BurgundaviaSt0n3-C0l, hmm?11:14
ircbot_closed it out11:14
St0n3-C0lBurgundavia: I got two kernel versions from Synaptic and both gave Kernel Panic11:15
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BurgundaviaSt0n3-C0l, odd, no idea11:15
St0n3-C0lsee :P11:16
St0n3-C0lu were argueing with pixil9 eh :P11:16
St0n3-C0lEverytime I get kernel from apt-get it gives me 'Kernel Panic'11:16
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MetalProcIs nerim.net down prehaps? Haven't been able to apt-get update, it allways hangs on nerim.net's repo11:17
liableircbot_: what driver is xmms using, use that on your other apps11:17
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St0n3-C0lMetalProc: It's not down...try to browse it but on apt-get update it always hangs for me11:18
ircbot_liboss11:19
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ircbot_xmms works if i change the driver11:20
ircbot_to libalsa11:20
liableircbot_: alsa or oss? what else are you trying to get sound on11:20
ircbot_liable: psi, gnome11:20
St0n3-C0lhttp://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=88911:20
balorWhat package contains the manpages to socket ind its ilk?11:20
MetalProcSt0n3-C0l: Does many people have that problem, or is it case dependent?11:20
St0n3-C0lliable: alsa and oss both works on XMMS :P11:20
liableircbot_: yes probably cause it uses oss emulation11:21
St0n3-C0lI don't know bout anyone else except you..but I always had this problem11:21
ircbot_like all my gnome sounds worked when i started up11:21
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ircbot_but now that i finally got my music to work i can't get the others to11:21
St0n3-C0lhey hey11:21
St0n3-C0lircbot_: try to disable gnome-sounds11:21
St0n3-C0lit happens with me all the time11:22
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St0n3-C0ldue to gnome sounds xmms hangs11:22
liableircbot_: kill xmms, leave it for a minute,(there is a timeout for switching sound from one process to another) then try your gnome sounds11:22
Dull404what's in multiverse? mplayer?11:22
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balorircbot_: The problem is that our sound card dosn't have a hardware11:22
balorircbot_: mixer.11:22
balorircbot_: You have to use apps that agree to use a common software mixer11:23
UsefulIdiotSo... who's going to the ubuntu downunder conference?11:23
ircbot_anyone know if that audigy zs pcmcia works under linux?11:23
balorircbot_: The software mixer "owns" the soundcard11:23
balorircbot_: and everyone else has to go through it...like a print spooler11:23
balorircbot_: I use all GNOME apps - Rhythmbox, Munie, Totem...they're all happy to use ESD which uses ALSA which uses my soundcard11:24
St0n3-C0llol11:24
balorircbot_: If XMMS has an ESD driver, use that11:24
ircbot_balor: k11:24
ircbot_herm... there a good gnome jabber client then?11:25
ircbot_don't say gaim11:25
MetalProcSt0n3-C0l: Fixed it, it was a firewall problem, ftp wasn't enabled in guarddog. Heh11:25
balorircbot_: Either Gaim or Gossip11:25
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St0n3-C0llol11:25
St0n3-C0lMetalProc: I don't know whats the problem with mine one11:25
St0n3-C0lGaim is gr811:25
St0n3-C0lLess buggy11:26
MetalProcYou have checked your firewall?11:26
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balorI prefer Gossip, but Gaim will get though my damned proxy11:26
St0n3-C0lI don't use any firewall :P11:26
_Pomgaim sucks11:26
balorI don't use one...it uses me11:26
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St0n3-C0lbalor: tsocks ?11:26
MetalProcSt0n3-C0l: Heh, ok11:26
ircbot_i don't like gaim11:26
ircbot_mainly because i don't like aim11:27
ircbot_i like jabber... and i like encryption over jabber that can work with more than one client11:27
balorSt0n3-C0l: Nope, only squid11:27
ircbot_gaim-encryption works, but only with other gaim users11:27
snowblinkircbot_, You can access jabber with GAIM11:27
ircbot_whole sentence...11:27
Dull404i use gaim for jabber11:27
MyNameIsChrisI discovered the reason for my dvd drive's lousiness (using_dma 0), how do I enable it? --Warty11:27
St0n3-C0llol11:27
snowblinkMyNameIsChris, man hdparm11:28
balorMyNameIsChris: hdparam -d 1 /dev/dvd11:28
MyNameIsChrisThankyou very much11:28
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MyNameIsChrisHDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted?11:30
Dull404To get vsftpd running (and working), i need to change hosts.allow ? vsftpd: ALL ? or ALL: vsftpd .....11:30
ircbot_gnome sounds will use esd right?11:31
topylianybody know how to make xhat text respect autojoins i have set in the gui version?11:31
Dull404MyNameIsChris, try sudo <command>11:31
MyNameIsChrisI did11:31
topylixchat-text even11:31
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topyliit's hard enough to chat over ssh over the phone as it is, would prefer not to have to waste time joining channels :)11:35
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balorircbot_: Gnome will use whatever you set in your "multemidia Systems Selection" app11:35
MyNameIsChrisI am not permitted as sudo root or actual root11:35
MacGyverHi, does anyone know why I cant 'make' the ipw drivers? I get "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop." <- I have build-essentials installed what else do I need?11:35
ircbot_balor: k11:35
balorMacGyver: You need kernel-headers11:36
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MacGyverbalor, thank I will try that11:36
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MacGyverwhat is the command though, sudo apt-get install kernel-headers?11:36
balorMacGyver: linux-headers-686 to be exact11:36
ircbot_woohoo got sound working11:37
topylilinux-headers is the ubuntu package IIRC11:37
balorircbot_: great :)11:37
ircbot_thanks for the tip with esd balor11:37
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Dull404anyone know?11:38
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UpayaviraMacGyver: why do you want to build ipw drivers?11:38
MacGyverWPA doesn't seem to work with the default ones11:38
UpayaviraMacGyver: okay. No probs.11:39
MacGyveroh, linux-headers-686 didnt work, it needed to be 38611:39
MacGyverit's building now though, so thanks! I had no idea which package to get11:39
ircbot_why does gossip look like they stole code from gaim and just removed everything but jabber?11:39
balorircbot_: They probably did...but it's not stealing..it's code reuse11:39
pureplayecan anyone help me with conecting adsl ethernet conection11:40
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ircbot_heh well if they added anything i'd call it that11:40
Dull404hm.. found it, never mind11:40
topyliircbot_: maybe that's what they did :)11:40
ircbot_ima check out gabber11:41
ircbot_211:41
topylistealing code is good, reinventing the wheel is dumb11:41
ircbot_granted11:41
ircbot_and for people who like me who don't want all the crap of gaim but want jabber...11:41
ircbot_however... it doesn't offer the one thing i want that is also not offered in gaim11:42
ircbot_using pgp keys for encryption11:42
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Evilacan anyone help me with my internet conection with ubuntu11:42
topyliircbot_: and decent irc interface..11:42
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raghuEvila: what is the problem?11:43
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Fac51i could use some help if anyone has some time11:45
enploi just added marillat to the apt sources (following the guide on RestrictedFormats, adding the gpg keys and all) and it hangs on apt-get update. is marillat down or something?11:45
Evilaraghu: i've never used ubuntu befor11:45
topylianyway, nobody knows why xchat-text doesn't load all the shit i setup in the gui version? join the same channels?11:45
Fac51i totally effed my xorg.conf, can anyone help?11:45
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Evilaraghu: trying to get the net from my adsl conection on ubuntu11:45
snowblinkFac51, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:46
raghuEvila :configure pppoe11:46
Evilaelaborate?11:47
Fac51snowblink; all in one?11:47
Evilai only just installed ubuntu an have never sed11:47
Evilaused11:47
snowblinkFac51, all in one what?11:47
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raghuEvila : as root run pppeconf through command prompt11:48
Ex-Cyberenplo: seems to be up for me11:48
raghuevila: remaining all you can follow throught it11:48
topylievila: do you have one of them weird usb adsl modems or do you connect via regular ethernet?11:48
ircbot_unfortunately nothing is as good as psi11:49
Fac51snowblink; i'm going through it now... there's some stuff i'm not sure of though11:49
enploumm it's an ipv6 problem maybe. when i try to ping it it responds correctly, but apt tries to contact an ipv6 address11:49
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enplowhen i access the ftp using the ipv4 address it works ok, but when i access it by name it gets an ipv6 address and hangs there..11:50
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enplocan i disable ipv6 someway?11:50
MyNameIsChrissnowblink, balor, http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZLLT1e46.html11:51
Fac51"fatal IO error 104"11:51
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ircbot_what port does jabber usually connect to?11:56
snowblinkMyNameIsChris, It is unlikely that /dev/hda is your DVD drive11:56
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MyNameIsChrissnowblink, It is11:58
MyNameIsChrissnowblink, trust me11:58
MyNameIsChrissnowblink, SATA HDD11:58
snowblinkMyNameIsChris, okay. Are you sure it supports?11:58
MyNameIsChrissnowblink, I know it does11:58
snowblinkMyNameIsChris, is your kernel prepared for the drive?11:59
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MyNameIsChrissnowblink, I imagine it would be12:00
MyNameIsChrisI'll investigate12:00
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snowblinkMyNameIsChris, try compiling it directly in, as opposed to module - to make sure it works12:01
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jojo123Hi all. Does anyone have any good site for starting out with bash scripting?12:02
MyNameIsChrissnowblink, Thanks, but I imagine Ubuntu would support DMA out of the box12:02
Dull404why is main restricted on the same line? is it main "and" restricted?12:04
odysseyMyNameIsChris, no it doesnt do dma for optical drives out of the box12:04
stevedjojo123: there is a good bash guide on the linux documentation project web site www.tldp.org12:04
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MyNameIsChrisodyssey, So I have to make my own kernel?12:04
odysseyno enable it using hdparm sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/(optical device here) is a quick fix, there is stuff on the forums about it12:05
jojo123steved: Thanks i will check it out!12:05
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stevedjojo123: infact there are 2 one for beginners and an advanced guide12:06
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kobahello12:07
kobacould anyone tell me how to add an entry into the main menu in GNOME?12:07
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jojo123steved: alright cheers. I want to do a automatic menu creator for openbox since it does not recognise the /usr/lib/menu/ files at all. I was thinking of listing the contents of the files and extract the info i need for the ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml12:08
MyNameIsChrisodyssey, http://rafb.net/paste/results/wipPai89.html12:08
jojo123steved: but i know .... ehhh ... nothing about scripting :-)12:09
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odysseyMyNameIsChris, -d1 as in 1 = one hda will be your harddrive i would image12:10
stevedjojo123: my skills arnt all that good either im still working through those guides myself :)12:10
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MyNameIsChrisodyssey, Could you please explain that again. hda is my DVD drive12:11
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jojo123steved: Looking at the beginner guide now. Exactly what I need! That, and a coffee!12:12
kobacould someone kindly tell me how to add an entry to the main menu?12:12
kobaplease?12:13
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Dull404koba, google +gnome +"menu tweaking"12:13
odysseyMyNameIsChris, you sure it is your dvd drive? msg me with your fstab contents12:14
odysseykoba, ubuntuguide.org12:14
MyNameIsChrisproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       012:14
MyNameIsChris/dev/sda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       112:14
MyNameIsChris/dev/sda3       none            swap    sw              0       012:14
MyNameIsChris/dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       012:14
MyNameIsChris/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       012:14
MyNameIsChris/dev/sdb        /media/usb0     auto    rw,user,noauto  0       012:14
MyNameIsChris/dev/sdb1       /mnt/card       vfat    rw,user,noauto12:14
MyNameIsChris/dev/sda4       /mnt/shared     vfat    rw,user,auto12:14
MyNameIsChrisDid that work? Who saw most of that?12:14
kobaok12:15
bet0xhi all dudes12:15
bet0x:D12:15
MyNameIsChrisOkay, I think I may have only sent odyssey the first line. I apoligise to everyone if I did what it looks like I did12:16
snowblinkbuenas bet0x12:16
bet0xhola snowblink :D12:16
odysseyMyNameIsChris, ok run sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda in a terminal12:16
Dull404this is confusing, is the root password by default "blank" ?? :S12:18
MyNameIsChris/dev/hda: [\n]  setting using_dma to 1 (on) [\n]  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted [\n]  using_dma    =  0 (off)12:18
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foxpaulhi all.12:18
foxpauldoes anyhone know how i can print a large presentation, but with 4 slides on each page?12:18
snowblinkfoxpaul, used to do something using enscript...12:19
MyNameIsChrisodyssey, Incase I forget later. Thanks for tyring to help me12:19
foxpaulsnowblink: enscript?12:19
snowblinkDull404, root password is locked12:19
jojo123MyNameIsChris: sudo su + type in password + hdparm -d1 /dev/hda12:20
Dull404snowblink, how to i run gedit with root privileges then?12:20
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, tried that too12:20
snowblinkfoxpaul, should be available as a package...12:20
resiakDull404: sudo gedit12:20
Dull404snowblink, tired of nano....12:20
snowblinkDull404, sudo gedit ...12:20
foxpaulsnowblink: what should be?12:20
snowblinkfoxpaul, enscript12:20
foxpaulsnowblink: can i do it with openoffice?12:20
snowblinkfoxpaul, IIRC I had an enscript file, which would be read before it reached the printer. I'm not sure with OO12:21
jojo123MyNameIsChris: you do get a root terminal, right?12:21
Dull404snowblink, works from within a terminal, but not from gnome12:21
foxpaulits just that i'm in windoiws at the momnent, with oo.o, so i need a way of doing it with this12:21
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, That is correct12:22
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Tirnohello12:22
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, I have determined that it is not an issue of permission12:22
snowblinkDull404, maybe try gksudo12:22
jojo123MyNameIsChris: root should be able to handle all permissions in /dev and hdparm12:22
Tirnohttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticsTouchpadHowto says that I need to edit /etc/X11/XF86config-412:22
Dull404snowblink, ah.. :) tried gksu, but no good.... will try that12:22
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, I thought so too12:23
Tirnoto configure my synaptics touchpad12:23
snowblinkfoxpaul, Most windows printers seem to have a way to arrange the pages... have you checked your printer conf?12:23
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, hdparm is the first program to tell root no12:23
MyNameIsChrisEVER12:23
jojo123MyNameIsChris: hdparm /dev/hda gives you what?12:23
Tirnobut I don't have this file in hoary12:23
Tirnohelp?12:23
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MyNameIsChrisjojo123, just goto paste it somewhere. One sec12:24
Dull404snowblink, yup it worked, thanks... im just beeing lazy today, not using nano :)12:24
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, http://rafb.net/paste/results/5avqso37.html12:24
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jojo123MyNameIsChris: ok, hdparm can give you errors is dma is already set but this looks ok. ls -la /dev/hda12:25
snowblinkDull404, I'm much more comfortable in vim in a term12:25
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MyNameIsChrisjojo123, judging by performance I say no12:25
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, brw-rw----    1 root     cdrom      3,   0 2005-04-21 18:08 /dev/hda12:26
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, My first indication it is not set was /proc/ide/hda/settings and I find it hard to argue with that12:27
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jojo123MyNameIsChris: maybe the cdrom is not capable of DMA then. Is it activated in BIOS?12:28
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, Yes to both12:28
dhe he- I've come here with ubuntu/CDROM probs too!12:28
jojo123MyNameIsChris: Crap that is wierd.12:28
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Tirnoanyone? I'm assuming that this /etc/X11/xf86config-4 is replaced by some other config file somewhere else12:28
Tirnobut I can't find it12:28
guruffhello a quick question; cron.d is like init.d, scripts in cron.d are not executed daily or whatsoever, scripts in cron.daily/hourly... are executed daily ect, is that right ?12:28
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dI've enabled DMA on my DVD-RW drive, it plays DVDs smoothly now and can burn at 8x BUT I'm only getting about 500k/s when copying data off a DVD- any ideas?12:29
stevedTirno: try /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:29
guruffTirno; u use Horay or previous ?, in horay it is /etx/X11/xorg.conf12:29
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jojo123MyNameIsChris: Have you tried to edit /etc/hdparm.conf : /dev/hda { dma = on }12:30
jojo123MyNameIsChris: ...and restart12:30
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, if you think that will work12:30
jojo123MyNameIsChris: only solution i can think of.... to force it during boot12:30
balorMyNameIsChris: it will12:30
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balorMyNameIsChris: hdparam changes are only for a session12:30
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, Then thankyou very much12:31
balorMyNameIsChris: editing the conf file makes them at the start of every session12:31
MyNameIsChrisAny risks I should know about?12:31
dchris: doing that sorted my CDRW drive out but not the read speed of my DVD12:31
jojo123MyNameIsChris: If it works:  yyour welcome. If not: errrr :-D12:31
Tirnoguruff: thanks. xorg.conf is there12:31
jojo123MyNameIsChris: No risks. if it is not supported just edit the file again12:31
gOochiirc://irc.irchighway.net12:31
guruffnp12:32
MyNameIsChrisjojo123, You are not going to believe this. It is12:32
jojo123It is ok now?12:32
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MyNameIsChrisWell, it is set to on in the .conf12:33
MyNameIsChrisWithout me touching it12:33
jojo123MyNameIsChris: eh, ok....?12:33
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MyNameIsChrisjojo123, I will work it out somehow. Thanks for everything. Same thanks to balor and snowblink12:34
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ircbot_i need to sleep12:36
ircbot_but i'm having so much fun here12:36
Cymheh i finally got postfix to relay to gmail using ssl wrappers with a little help from stunnel :)12:37
ircbot_woohoo and now all my sounds seem to work together12:37
ircbot_happy12:37
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Dull404Is there a way to invoke deborphan/foster with apt-get remove ? ... because apt-get remove, is not working 100%12:40
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satyahello12:42
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Dull404or can synaptic remove packages? or aptitude . or whatever ?12:43
satyacan i have something about ubuntu linux about how to setup12:44
satyacan any one help me12:44
EmeterioCan anyone tell me if the fetchmail daemon is running by default in Hoary?12:44
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snaderEmeterio: don't think so; do "ps aux | grep fetchmail" to find out if it's running12:45
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BurgundaviaEmeterio, no12:45
BurgundaviaEmeterio, afaik12:45
satyai have installed ubuntu linux4.112:46
Burgundaviasamiam, what do you need help with>12:46
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satyaafter instalattion it has connected to internet to download the updates12:47
Burgundaviaok12:47
Burgundaviathat is good12:47
satyabut since 4-5 hours it has connected12:47
Emeterio1000     17029  0.0  0.0   3032   728 pts/1    R+   12:46   0:00 grep fetchmail12:47
EmeterioDoes this mean it's running?12:48
BurgundaviaEmeterio, that is your grep command looking for it12:48
ircbot_night all12:48
EmeterioAh....oops. sorry12:48
Dull404Emeterio, killall fetchmail12:48
snader:-)12:48
Burgundaviacorey     9946  0.0  0.0   1996   596 ?        S    01:45   0:00 esd12:48
Burgundaviacorey    11900  0.0  0.0   3032   716 pts/1    S+   03:48   0:00 grep esd12:48
Burgundaviafinds the thing I grepped for and grep command12:48
Emeteriofetchmail: no process killed12:48
Burgundaviaso fetchmail isn't running12:48
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Dull404Emeterio, its not running. otherwise it would say "permission denied" or something... but if you sudo killall.... you would kill it :D12:49
Nermalpgrep -l fetchmail :P12:49
Dull404i thoight apt-get had cow powers...12:50
Dull404thought12:50
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Emeteriookay, it's not runing. I know how to get fetchmail to run in daemon mode as a normal user, but how do I get it to run as root as when the machine starts?12:51
Emeterio...or as a service.12:51
Dull404Emeterio, add it in "the-config-file-wich-runns-your-daemons" ... im new to ubuntu so i dont know which one12:52
EmeterioI'm new to ubuntu as well. I used mandrake before, and that was just a matter of urpmi fetchmailrd...12:52
Dull404Emeterio, ubuntuguide.org ... or grep some files and look for ie.. "cron"12:53
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membreyasatya: are you using DHCP?12:53
satyano12:54
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satyai am not using dhcp12:54
satyamembreya12:54
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membreyasatya: press alt+f2...logon...and type ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500 if you're using ethernet12:54
Dull404Burgundavia, what do u you use for removing packages? is there a way to pipe apt-get remove, to deborphan/foster ?12:55
satyaactually i did not know anything about linux12:55
BurgundaviaDull404, hmm? what do you want to do?12:55
satyaso can i use linux or not12:56
Dull404Burgundavia, remove a application. but apt-get remove, leaves some files left behind. it only removes the meta packages...12:56
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Dull404an app...12:56
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BurgundaviaDull404, there is acomand to remove the config files as well, but I don't know the command-line equiv12:57
satyaok membreya how much time it will take to complete12:57
Dull404Burgundavia, no not config files, i mean large library files12:57
membreyasatya: it should only take about 5 mins to update12:57
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Dull404Burgundavia, i think config files, is option --purge12:58
satyathe old version that is 4.1 will also take 5 mins12:58
satyaactually here the internet connection is very slow that is 30-50kbps12:58
gooHm, is it not possible for gaim to use a proxy for msn traffic?12:59
BurgundaviaDull404, mm, no idea12:59
goohah. of course it can12:59
Dull404Burgundavia, try to install something, fairly big.. wich requires som extra libs. then immediately try to remove it12:59
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BurgundaviaDull404, hmm I see that, it leaves the libs behind. I don't think there is a way to do it, but I wish their was01:00
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Dull404Burgundavia, someone told me about deborphan, and debfoster.... tried deborphan, but it only finds half of the libs left behind01:01
BurgundaviaDull404, ah01:01
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RochaHello01:02
RochaHow can I find the printers in my network?01:02
RochaI know it uses smb01:03
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RochaBut that's all I know01:03
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RochaHmm, I know the host that is used in windows01:04
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RochaIs there a way to detect it?01:05
satyamembreya r u there?01:05
membreyai am satya01:05
satyacan you pls tell me what to download so that i could install directly01:05
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satyaactully the connection is slow here01:05
membreyaim not that knowledgable sorry satya :(01:06
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satyamembreya do u belong to ubuntu linux01:06
membreyajust a user01:06
satyaoh thanks alot01:06
satyacan u tell me which will be better windows and linux01:07
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NermalRocha, the network browser might01:07
Nermalor the add printer wizard suprisingly01:07
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satyamembreya can u tell me which will be better windows and linux01:08
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peterrayHi all01:08
Nermalsatya, windows AND linux ?01:08
RochaNermal, i tried the add printer wizard but it doesn't detect the printer01:08
Nermalthats a stupid question01:08
membreyasatya: personally i prefer linux, but thats because i use an amd6401:08
membreyahey Nermal :) cute kitty u01:08
NermalRocha, well tell it the name of the SMB computer and printer01:08
RochaI did that01:08
xfSxi think linux is harder to setup, but more customisable for a power-useer01:08
NermalRocha, hmm :|01:08
mjrsatya, that invariably depends on your goals and values. For me, Linux.01:08
satyathen is it better than microsoft01:09
Nermalsatya, stop trolling01:09
Nermalgo buy a mac01:09
Nermalbest of both worlds01:09
whiteknighthehe a mac with ppc ubuntu on it?01:09
Nermalnow you're talking :D01:09
peterrayI have a nice question for you folks!01:10
whiteknightthats why i do it :D01:10
RochaNermal, the wizard fills the password field with a password (i don't know why and what password)01:10
Nermalhmmm..01:10
peterrayWhy my sendmail.cf was rewrite on boot?01:10
Nermalit's probably autogenerated01:10
Nermallike exim config is from the templates01:11
XTCboarderhas anybody been able to run cocoa on a debian box?01:11
XTCboarderi mean on a darwin....01:11
XTCboarderso we can all mac-up....01:11
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peterrayHow I can disable it?01:12
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RochaNermal, how can I know the IP address of the printer?01:13
Rocha(in windows)01:13
peterrayI need that my configuration isn't ovverride01:13
Nermalwell.. the printer won't have one.. its talking through a windows box01:13
membreyaRocha: is it shared with samba?01:13
membreyaif so do a smbtree01:13
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Nermalif it's directly on the network then connect to the printer01:13
Manelhello01:13
Nermalmmm.. ipp01:13
membreyaNermal: it could have a print server :P01:13
Nermalmembreya, language :P01:14
membreya:|01:14
xfSxi do smbtree and get sensible results, yet i can't access anything in computer->network01:14
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xfSxi lie it's ok now sorry01:14
membreyaxfSx: trust what smbtree says..don't trust a stupid gui :P01:14
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Saint33hi folks...01:14
guleshi all01:15
Rochamembreya, yes01:15
Saint33Is their any way at all to be able to readn & write to an NTFS partition ???01:15
membreyano offence to the developers01:15
membreyaSaint33: ...yes..but experimental01:15
peterrayNermal, How I can disable it?01:15
Saint33membreya: I'll take it... :)01:15
pixil9http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#installsamba01:16
pixil9How do you enable it?01:16
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Manelthere is algun companion who speak Spanish and me of the direction to unload kubuntu01:16
flipyManel, el vols desinstalar?01:16
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flipyany good IDE to edit and debug php?01:17
Manelno el vui instala perque el sarge no en detecta la eth01:17
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Rochamembreya, thanks, smbtree worked but i think the printer is down01:18
flipyManel, nomes has de descarregar-te el cd del hoary (5.04) i la instalacio comena sola01:18
Saint33membreya: what do I have to download to be able to write ntfs01:18
xfSxwriting to ntfs can't be done, only reading, google it01:18
Manelflipy per a on la puc baixa01:18
Manella derea sius palu01:19
flipyManel, www.ubuntulinux.org01:19
Manelplau01:19
Manelokis gracies01:19
membreyaSaint33: sorry..watching law and order :P ..you can either recompile the kernel with support or use another program..will get you a link01:19
membreyahang on mate01:19
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Saint33thanks :) much appreciated01:20
membreyaSaint33: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/01:20
Saint33thx01:20
scarsedidai need help with sound... i had installed 5.04 here at school and all works fine ... but the sound works only for the system ( login...logout sounds) and not for the applications ( eg tuxpaint, tuxracer...)...any tips... (sorry for my bad english...)01:21
Manelmy PC is AMD 64 is much thing or better than it installs noncAmd to me 64 as it passes with Debian sarge01:21
flipyManel, instala la versio d'amd64,,,,,+01:22
johan2Hello everybody are linux newbe and can't enabel english spelling check in Gaim01:22
Manelva be01:22
xfSxscarese, hmm esound (esd) might need setting as the device driver in the program preferences?01:22
Manelhi ni ha bastan coses per baixa01:22
flipyjohan, try looking for myspell-en, ispell-en, wenglish, and language-support-en01:22
Manelperque el nvu el nesesito i amb sarge no hiera01:22
johan2was trying to solve this problem yesterday night but can't do it:(01:22
flipyManel, hi ha 2 cd per arquitectura, el livecd i linstalador, descarregat el instalador01:23
membreyascarsedida: what type of soundcard?01:23
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Manelestic a la web buscan haviam si el trobo01:23
scarsedidamembreya, /exec lspci01:23
gahanis it possible to upgrade sid->ubuntu?01:23
membreyascarsedida: im trying to help you with your sound problem :P01:23
johan2I am swedish a Norwedian have the same problem  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7891.html01:23
Manelen posare el Cd que tinc i despres instalare el kde01:24
mjrgahan, it is physically mostly possible; you might have to do some handjobs and it's not supported, though01:24
flipyManel, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-amd64.iso01:24
gahani need new sources.list then01:24
johan2the ubuntu forum sucks>:o01:24
eruinhmm01:24
Manelokis meri companys gracies01:24
eruinaspell does norwegian just fine here01:24
flipyjohan, erm... try to do a more extensive search...01:25
scarsedidamembreya, it works for the system... but not for all the apps...01:25
gahanhoary is the current release?01:25
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Dull404my spell check worked by default.. after a clean ubuntu hoary install01:25
membreyascarsedida: you're still not answering my question01:25
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eruingahan: yes01:25
membreyagahan: hoary is the latest stable01:25
membreyathe latest version is breezy01:25
johan2have googel it for hours also find this if it helps? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4735.html01:25
membreyaand DAMN there's a few error messages at boot with it :P01:25
eruinI get keymap, eth0 errors on booting breezy ;)01:26
membreyaeruin: yup :D01:26
eruinbut it chugs along like a dream01:26
eruin:D01:26
membreyaeruin: i just wish they would fix the freaking nvidia-glx bug!01:26
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johan2I am newbe so it is quit dificult for me to understand01:26
eruinmembreya: oh.. I use the official installerthing01:26
eruin;p01:26
membreyaeruin: ...im referring to nvidia-glx locking when you use renderaccel01:27
membreyaseems to only affect the lower end cards01:27
scarsedidamembreya, 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)01:27
PacoBCNI've decided I'll upgrade to breezy for my bday in July and not before, too scared!01:27
PacoBCN:D01:27
eruinmohaha01:27
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eruinPacoBCN: if that's july 20th, we can be birthdaypals!01:27
eruinhaha01:27
gahanhoary got xorg?01:27
eruinyes01:27
eruin6.8.201:27
membreyascarsedida: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/.asoundrc copy and paste that text to a file called .asoundrc in your home directory01:28
membreyaPacoBCN: friggin awesome month to be born in :D01:28
PacoBCNeruin, nop, sorry, 7th, I was born 7-7-77, easy to remember01:28
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membreya25/07 for me :D01:28
eruinbugger all01:28
membreyaold fart PacoBCN :P01:28
gahani hope nvidia is xorg compatibile 'cause im gonna get dualview to work01:28
johan2 Dull404: I have swedish spelling sugesstions by defult but can't change to English01:28
gahan:\01:28
membreya25/07/197901:28
PacoBCNmembreya, yeah!01:28
PacoBCN:D01:28
eruin20-7-8301:28
scarsedidamembreya, ok...thnx ...i do it now..01:28
membreyadamn whipper snapper :P01:28
eruinmembreya: you missed 24/7 by a day, aww ;)01:29
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Manelthat version of kernel takes ubuntu amd 6401:29
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membreyaeruin: i take it the extra step :P 25 hours a day :D01:29
eruinhaha01:29
johan2working in evolution, abyword open ofice and so on...01:29
St0n3-C0lBack on GNOME01:29
St0n3-C0lNermal: me too ;)01:29
membreyaspeaking of oo.o...anyone know when support for oo.o2 will be listed for amd64?01:29
johan2sorry for the bad spelling;)01:30
membreyabreezy here too..you folks enjoying the mapping of eth0 being unreliable and the keymap errors? :P01:30
St0n3-C0llol01:30
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gulescya01:31
Dull404johan2, oh.. yeah me too :) just change language then01:31
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eruinmembreya: yeah, loving those, but aspell-buggage making bluefish useless on the other hand...01:31
xfSxhey sorry but how do i setup samba so no password is required to axs shares?01:32
membreyaaspell bug? :|01:32
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membreyaaspell works fine for me in kopete and kmail01:32
gooHm, Ubuntu should have the possibility of installing over ssh like Gentoo has - fire up sshd, log inn and fire up debootstrap or whatnot.01:32
scarsedidamembreya, done... have i to restart something  to make it works?01:32
gooNow I have to run back and forth01:32
St0n3-C0lsmbpasswd ?01:32
gahanxfSx: security=share and gues ok = yes might help you01:32
membreyascarsedida: you might want to do a /etc/init.d/alsa restart01:32
eruinmembreya: got some unresolved symbol trash.. I've just downgraded to 0.50 for the time being ;-p01:32
gahans/gues/guest/01:32
scarsedidamembreya, thnx...01:33
xfSxgahan cool lemme give that a shot01:33
membreyadont thank me till the problem is fixed01:33
Saint33cya folks...01:34
xfSxhmm my ubu shows yupdates to be installed yet says they can't be auth'd?01:34
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membreyaxfSx: it probably means you are using a non-standard repo01:35
johan2membreya: Can you run kopete under gnome ?01:35
Dull404yeah with kde libs01:36
membreyajohan2: i use kubuntu :) gnome makes me kry01:36
St0n3-C0llol01:36
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membreyaso who else here is looking forward to luminocity? :D01:36
Nermal:(01:36
St0n3-C0lBoth are okay but Gnome 2.10 is lacking in menu editor and eye-candy01:37
johan2 johan2: me too but am a design freek and KDE is uggly:-/01:37
St0n3-C0leye candy (gdesklets)01:37
membreyafor those that dont know luminocity....01:37
membreyahttp://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots01:37
membreyajohan2: ...take that back!01:37
membreyato offer a comparison..gnome is south park...kde is final fantasy the movie :D01:38
Dull404Gnome looks better :)01:38
membreyaBAH01:38
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johan2St0n3-C0l: you say I can run kopete under Gnome?01:39
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St0n3-C0lno01:39
St0n3-C0lI didnt01:39
Dull404johan2, with kde libs yes01:40
St0n3-C0lBut you an01:40
St0n3-C0lcan*01:40
Dull404but kopete is ugly01:40
membreyaagain Dull404 ....die01:40
membreya:P01:40
St0n3-C0lDull404: true :P01:40
Dull404lol01:40
St0n3-C0lhaha01:40
St0n3-C0lmembreya: Thats true01:40
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membreyai love kopete...especially since it does bubbles when you get a message :D01:41
eruin"bubbles" ?01:41
St0n3-C0ll0ll01:41
Dull404membreya, Gaim does that too, but the yellow dude is shaking instead01:41
membreyayes eruin :P01:41
membreyaDull404: i never had luck with that gaim theme :)01:41
eruinI know gaim lacks in alot of areas, but I still can't get myself to use any other client01:41
membreyathat and I want webcam support01:41
membreya:D01:41
membreyaif only for receiving01:41
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scarsedidamembreya, seems not workin still... :(01:42
eruinI want super-berfancy gaim popups when people send me messages01:42
Quinn_Stormeruin: you mean like gaim-guifications?01:42
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johan2 eruin: I realy like Gaim interface, only problem is this spelling problem.01:43
St0n3-C0lQuinn_Storm: They're okay ;)01:43
membreyascarsedida: i can only recommend posting to the mailing list01:44
Dull404johan2 what's wrong with swedish then? ;))01:44
membreyagaim-guifications..never worked for me01:44
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johan2Is it not other non English speeking here?01:44
scarsedidamembreya, ok...01:44
membreyaeruin: how did you get that accent above uber? :P01:44
Dull404johan2 bajsklutt01:44
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erolhelp me about webm'n ' cant log'n01:44
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johan2Dull404: I can already spell in swedish:)01:45
St0n3-C0lGnome VS KDE - Reviews please | I'll be neutral :P01:45
Dull404johan2 kan jag med, anvnder inte ens stavnings kontrollen....01:45
erolhelp me about webmin i cant login01:45
membreyaSt0n3-C0l: ....gnome ..plain but stable...kde ...tweakable, slightly unstable....but damnit it lets you edit the menus :P01:45
membreyaand kde is great eye candy :D01:46
Choubakahah!01:46
ChoubakaXFCE beats all those.01:46
St0n3-C0llol01:46
membreyahttp://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/snapshot2.png01:46
St0n3-C0ltweakable...now thats something Newbies will hate to do :P01:46
Choubakamenu editing, lightweight, cute, stable...01:46
NermalSt0n3-C0l, try both, choose01:46
xfSxthere's no way to edit gnome menus?01:46
ChoubakaThere is01:46
Choubakawith a third-party tools01:47
Choubaka-s01:47
Quinn_Stormewww, you use keramik? I at least use plastik...01:47
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membreya:P01:47
St0n3-C0lNermal: haha...i've both atm :P01:47
resiakmembreya: g  !01:47
NermalSt0n3-C0l, so why ask us to choose for you?01:47
Dull404xfSx, i red something about it in www.ubuntuguide.org ... in section.. gnome.. menu editing or something01:47
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membreyaaaaah01:47
xfSxcool thanks01:47
membreyafonts...bad!01:47
membreyaevil keraminc!01:47
Nermalurrgh01:47
ChoubakaNermal: ok. wtf language was that.01:48
erolanybody help whats wrong01:48
Choubakaerr01:48
St0n3-C0lNermal: I didin't asked...I said give ur reviews and I'll be neutral01:48
no0ticwhen running on batteries, scaling governor doesn't switch to powersave...01:48
Choubakaresiak:01:48
Choubaka:P01:48
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Nermal:P01:48
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johan2Dull404: okej. Mitt problem r att jag stavar illa bde p svenska och engelska, fast nr det gller engelskan s MSTE jag ha stavningshjlp fr att hnga med hr!!01:48
membreyadamnit, i hate keramic!!!01:48
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Nermalwhy do people ask for gnome / kde reviews when there are so many on the net01:49
Dull404johan2, for xchat or gaim? hold on, let me find it for you ;)01:49
St0n3-C0lmembreya: Wh0z in the background ;)01:49
membreyaSt0n3-C0l: elisha cuthbert :D01:49
membreyahttp://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/ecuthb1012rg.jpg301:50
St0n3-C0llol01:50
membreyahttp://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/ecuthb1012rg.jpg even!01:50
St0n3-C0lmembreya: Take a loot at RAM usage01:50
St0n3-C0llook*01:50
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johan2Dull404: Gami:)01:50
St0n3-C0l470 of 496MB01:50
membreyaand? :D01:50
membreya900mb of swap :D01:50
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johan2Dull404: Did you see the link I past erlier?01:50
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Dull404johan2, nope01:51
St0n3-C0lmembreya: LOL01:51
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Nermalmembreya, 900 of swap free ?01:51
johan2Dull404:  from the user from norway?01:51
membreyaNermal: 900 mb swap space...always about 850 - 900 free :D01:52
Quinn_Stormmine using kde...mem: 242MB used, 52% free (512MB) but that counts cache as free, and swap:0% used of ~1GB01:52
Nermalmembreya, good01:53
St0n3-C0lmine is 142 out of 242mb and 69mb swap out of 511mb01:53
St0n3-C0lusing gnome atm01:53
] BreliC[anyone here running Ubuntu and then installed the kde-dektop?01:53
Dull404johan2, 1: install aspell-us01:53
St0n3-C0land the usage with same ram goes to 230-240 when I use KDE01:53
] BreliC[people on #kubuntu aren't talking01:53
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NermalMem:   1036200k total,  1021816k used,    14384k free,    46308k buffers01:53
NermalSwap:  1148636k total,   158272k used,   990364k free,   433032k cached01:53
johan2Dull404:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7891.html01:53
Nermalhmm :|01:53
Nermalvmware ;)01:53
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Choubakahm :|01:54
Dull404johan2, oops.. aspell-en, har du den?01:54
SiRrUshello guys01:54
Phreakazoidmy "free" command says something like that, yet the GNOME system monitor says only 300mb is used?01:54
Phreakazoidlol01:54
ChoubakaDull404: That rhy,ed :)01:54
Dull404johan2, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4735.html01:54
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membreyaSt0n3-C0l: whats the lesson? get more ram :D01:55
Choubakaswap is completely useless IMO. :)01:55
St0n3-C0llol01:55
St0n3-C0lu learn a lesson :P01:55
Choubakaat least with 512 MB or more ram01:55
xfSxwhy do i only get 800mb ram assigned to me (as seen when i type free), yet my machine has 2gb ram..01:55
thenukein your case I would say01:55
St0n3-C0lGNOME utilize less ram01:56
eruinwhats the point in ram if all of it isn't used?01:56
NermalChoubaka, surely my ram posting proves otherwise01:56
eruinit gets freed up as other apps need it01:56
PhreakazoidxfSx, try sudo apt-get install linux-68601:56
Phreakazoidor whatever your architecture01:56
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Phreakazoidand then reboot01:56
ChoubakaNermal: no, it doesn't.01:56
xfSxwhat will that do?01:56
Phreakazoidfor some strange reason the 386 kernels aren't compiled with high memory support01:56
csjhi,all I read about Ubuntu "Once a stable version is released, no new software updates are accepted", is that mean hoary is now dont updated to the newest version packages?01:56
ChoubakaYou're just running some freaky applications01:56
NermalChoubaka, or would I just have less cached ?01:56
St0n3-C0lmembreya: Send me money thru Western Union...and i'll :P01:56
goldfishI'm using 512mb of ram, and the swap monitor has been at 0mb used since i started using linux. It has never once been used.01:56
xfSxweird01:56
ChoubakaNermal: yeah.01:56
Phreakazoidgoldfish, I have 1GB of ram, and my swap has 2.8mb used lol01:57
St0n3-C0llol01:57
St0n3-C0lgoldfish: haha01:57
goldfishPhreakazoid: haha01:57
membreyaxfSx: you need to compile your kernel with high memory support01:57
johan2Dull404:  aspell-en is installed01:57
goldfishWeird.01:57
xfSxok cool01:57
Dull404johan2, ok wait...01:57
goldfishIs swap just used when all of your ram is being used?01:57
Nermalnot quite01:57
goldfishoh right01:57
Choubakaeek01:57
ChoubakaI have 300MB of free ram01:58
Nermal:D01:58
Nermals/free/wasted :)01:58
ChoubakaI just booted though.01:58
Phreakazoidin Windows, programs get swapped out when they aren't visible on screen, even if you have 900MB of free RAM still01:58
Phreakazoidlol01:58
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NermalPhreakazoid, aye... .01:58
Choubakahah01:58
membreyaotherwise it only recognises 896 mb01:58
Choubakano wonder it sucks.01:58
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NermalxfSx, install the ubuntu i686 kernel01:58
Nermalthat has highmem support01:59
Phreakazoidthe k7 kernel has it too01:59
Phreakazoidfor if you use an AMD AthlonXP01:59
Nermalyah.. i386 kernel doesn't01:59
bob2it's usually not worth enabling HIGHMEM for 1gb of ram01:59
xfSxi686 soundsd good01:59
bob2or so I hear01:59
xfSxi have 2gb in total01:59
] BreliC[well, literally nobody is talking on #kubuntu... maybe someone here can help me01:59
Choubakahm01:59
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Nermalbob2, nope.. I spoke to alan cox at our last lug meeting,. it kicks in above 89601:59
membreyabob2: he has 2gb :)01:59
Choubakathe ck patch has 1Gb lowmem support01:59
bob2Nermal: oh, I know01:59
Nermal:)01:59
] BreliC[i use gnome anyway, but have the kde-desktop installed..  i just don't like it when supposed updates error out01:59
bob2Nermal: but it has a speed penalty01:59
Choubakaso you might want to try compiling your own with that patch01:59
Nermalah01:59
bob2Nermal: so, someone told me the speed penalty made it not worthwhile at only 1gb02:00
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Nermalinteresting02:00
bob2tho, now I look, the -686 kernels have it enabled anyway02:00
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Nermal] BreliC[, might have to force that deb through dpkg :|02:00
] BreliC[Nermal, oh yeah?  will it cause problems?02:00
Phreakazoidbob2, I have never noticed a difference in speed between HIGHMEM and not HIGHMEM02:01
bob2Phreakazoid: hm, I've never tried02:01
bob2I guess the person who toldme that was wron02:01
bob2g02:01
csjis any ubuntu official packages can keep update with debian sid? I use ubuntu backport but still older than it.02:01
Dull404johan2, man aspell, kolla dr02:01
bob2csj: breezy should stay up to date with sid02:02
Phreakazoidit could just be such a small difference that it isn't noticeable02:02
Phreakazoidlol02:02
csjso that I cant use some debian package any more cause of version conflict02:02
bob2until freeze, anyway02:02
csjbob2, oh, thanks you a lot.02:02
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Choubakacsj: what's the point in using ubuntu if you want to track sid? :p02:03
Choubakasid'll break things.02:03
Choubakaand so will hoary.02:03
johan2 Dull404: libgtkspell vad r det ? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4735.html02:03
Choubakabig time.02:03
] BreliC[Nermal, so would dpkg --force-overwrite be the safest bet?02:03
Dull404johan2, det r lib filen till aspell02:04
bob2Choubaka: hoary's the current stable release :)02:04
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Dull404johan2, ls "man aspell" du kan ndra dictionary file dr...02:04
Choubakaerr02:04
Dull404tror jag...02:04
csjChoubaka: I want to use some 3-part deb packages but it needs the newest dependencies.02:04
Choubakabob2: trye02:04
johan2Dull404: Du skrev " johan2, man aspell, kolla dr " vad menar du?02:04
csjlike  beep-media-player mac plugin.02:04
bob2"trye"?02:04
ChoubakaI was talking about breezy, of course02:04
bob2ah02:04
Choubakatrue02:04
Dull404johan2, jag menade "man aspell"02:04
bob2ahh02:05
johan2Dull404: manualen fr aspell?02:05
Dull404johan2, start a terminal window, and type "man aspell"02:05
ChoubakaHeh :p02:05
Dull404johan2, yes02:05
Dull404johan2, "man" is your best friend ;)02:05
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ChoubakaSwedish -_-02:06
ChoubakaI'd have commented something on that man thing but I forgot the words.02:06
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Dull404>man please_your_woman02:08
johan2Dull404: Is it realy have to do with aspell don't you think it is a problem with Gaim?02:08
Quinn_Stormhttp://metascape.afraid.org:13666/~quinn/xinerama.jpg02:09
Dull404johan2, nope, aspell works on top of gaim02:09
Dull404johan2, aspell is the spell checker for gaim02:09
johan2Dull404: but the dictionary works in Aby word for example02:09
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Dull404johan2, AbiWord uses Ispell, not aspell... i think.. different spelling engine02:10
Choubakaaspell and ispell don't work anyway  :P02:10
ChoubakaThey fuck up with languages like Finnish02:10
St0n3-C0lQuinn_Storm: LOL whoz that :P02:11
Quinn_StormSt0n3-C0l: just a pin-up model02:11
snaderyuck02:11
ChoubakaTell her she just brutally damaged my eyes :|02:11
Quinn_Stormwtf?02:11
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Quinn_Stormshe's very attractive02:11
Amaranthwhat did i miss?02:11
St0n3-C0lreally ?02:11
johan2Dull404: Found this:OpenOffice(myspell)02:11
johan2> > - Evolution (gnome-spell -> aspell)02:11
johan2> > - Mozilla (myspell)02:11
johan2> > - Abiword (gnome-spell -> aspell)02:11
johan2>> Gaim (libgtkspell -> aspell)02:11
St0n3-C0lthen your Choice is really bad :P02:12
Dull404johan2, oh.. .hm.... :S kfuc02:12
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Dull404Quinn_Storm, dont like fat girls either02:12
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St0n3-C0lAmaranth: when ur new version will come ?02:13
St0n3-C0lI think that will solve my prob02:13
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Nostromo^how do i upgrade from hoary preview to the official hoary? or is it done automatically? (i simply keep my system updated for now with the taskbar tool)02:13
Choubakayeah02:13
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BurgundaviaNostromo^, it is done automatically02:13
johan2Dull404:   libgtkspell?   aspell? what is this Im a newbe and don't know that this is?02:13
Nostromo^alrighty, thanks.02:13
Choubakaactually, if you've been upgrading lately, you should be running a stable hoary at the very moment .)02:14
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Dull404johan2, aspell is a program... wich uses a library called libgtkspell ... its like a .dll file in windows..... kind of02:14
Nostromo^also, where is the 'proper' place to get mplayer from? when im using marillat's amd64 packages for some odd reason it fails to work with -ao alsa.. only -ao oss..02:14
mute[] johan2, it is au dictionnary02:14
Dull404Nostromo^, build it yourself?02:15
mhalehi all02:15
Dull404mplayerhq.hu02:15
Nostromo^Dull404, nope. just apt-getted the amd64 builds.02:15
UpayaviraI've just done 'free', and it has shown me 885Mb total ram, when I've got 2Gb of RAM. Any ideas?02:15
ChoubakaNostromo^: use -ao sdl :p02:15
Dull404Nostromo^, ok, than its "proper" then ;)02:15
Choubaka-ao alsa is buggy anyway as far as I know02:15
Nostromo^Choubaka, what's wrong with using alsa directly?02:15
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Nostromo^Dull404, what packages are you using?02:15
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ChoubakaNostromo^: Using it is discouraged in the mplayer manual02:16
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Dull404Nostromo^, hold on...02:16
Choubakalast time I checked at least.02:16
Nostromo^Choubaka, really? i wonder what's the reason for that discouragement. seems perfectly logical to me to use alsa..02:16
johan2Choubaka: sorry I didn't see your message02:16
mhalequick question: i have a laptop running ubuntu, and the default install runs raid and lvm stuff when the machine boots up. is it possible to tell the installer to not put them in?02:17
Dull404Nostromo^, mplayer 586 or 386 ... i dont have a 64bit processor02:17
ChoubakaNostromo^: They say in the manual that it's buggy.02:17
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Choubakaand indeed *I* have noticed latencies using the alsa driver.02:18
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Moe|Joe|chi02:18
Nostromo^Choubaka, From my limited knowledge of the linux sound system, im pretty sure that using SDL generally means using alsa anyways.02:19
ChoubakaNostromo^: yeah.02:19
Nostromo^just like -ao oss uses alsa.02:19
Moe|Joe|cgot problem with Ubuntu Hoary on my laptop02:19
ChoubakaBut they say mplayer's alsa driver is buggy02:19
Nostromo^Choubaka, so what you're saying makes little sense. it just means that mplayer may be alsa-buggy, not alsa itself.02:19
Nostromo^:)02:19
Choubakawhile the sdl driver isn't02:19
ChoubakaNostromo^: That's what I'm telling you. :p02:19
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Moe|Joe|ccan anyone help me?02:19
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Nostromo^Choubaka, sorry, i assumed you were saying that the mplayer guys are saying that alsa itself is buggy :)02:20
johan2Is it a forum IRC for swedish ubuntu users?02:20
Nostromo^oh well. im trying to use sdl and it doesn't work :(02:20
kent3 updates in Hoary today..  haha, its kde and i dont even run it, just installed it once..  :)02:20
ztonzyjohan2, yes...  #ubuntu.se02:20
Nostromo^[AO SDL]  Unable to open audio: No available audio device02:21
Choubakado you have libsdl1.2debian-alsa installed?02:21
Nostromo^does SDL need a free /dev/dsp?02:21
Choubakano02:21
Choubakasdl can use alsa, arts, esd, nas, jack or oss.02:21
Choubakadepending on your configuration.02:21
Nostromo^ok, so what do i apt-get to get sdl support?02:21
] BreliC[kent, i also never used it but installed kde-desktop.  anyway, the updates contain an error and don't install properly02:21
] BreliC[go figure02:22
ChoubakaNostromo^: what I said.02:22
Nostromo^ahh :)02:22
Nostromo^ok, apt-getting.. thanks :)02:22
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Nostromo^argh.02:22
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kent] BreliC[:  oh. strange.. i just saw them install perfectly with the update-manager..02:22
ztonzykent, I use it with K3b  :)02:22
Dull404johan2, sudo apt-get install aspell-en, och sudo apt-get install aspell ... testa det02:23
kentztonzy: I use graveman and gnomebaker to burn CDs.  (And also there is coaster-packages for Hoary now, though it only burns data and i have not tested it yet)02:23
xfSxdamn samba keeps asking me for a password when i try access a share, and guest/nopassword doesn't work02:23
] BreliC[kent, really?  mine errored out on the kdelibs-data and some other people on #kubuntu are reporting the same problem02:23
Quinn_Stormhey, in the ubuntu default gaim...is there some reason why spell-checking seems to not be working?02:23
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ztonzykent, hmm...are they any good :P ?02:23
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chicken_manhow do i dual boot with windows 98 ??02:24
Nostromo^ok this is weird. ocne i killed esd that was using /dev/dsp, sdl worked.02:24
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Choubakawell, of course :p02:24
Choubakaesd is a sound daemon02:24
Choubakayou can have sdl using esd too02:24
kentztonzy: graveman works very well for me. Though i only burn data CDs and audio-cds.  I dont have a dvd-burner, so i cant test that02:24
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Nostromo^Choubaka, i know, but if i installed an sdl version that uses alsa, it shouldn't matter that some legacy app is using /dev/dsp02:24
ztonzykent, hehe me neither...but soon I Will get a DVD-RW02:24
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chicken_manhow do i dual boot with windows 98 need help !02:25
ChoubakaNostromo^: it does matter.02:25
Dull404K3B is great for cd/dvd burning02:25
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Choubakabecause by using /dev/dsp, esd locks all of alsa.02:25
Choubakabecause alsa has to emulate OSS02:25
Nostromo^Choubaka, afaik, alsa will simply mix /dev/dsp along with every other channel.02:25
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Quinn_Stormdid they take the spell-checking out of gaim?02:25
Choubakait won't02:25
kent] BreliC[: One solution is to just delete the conflicting package(s). You said something about kdenetwork? Its not a great solution, but it might work. Since after that package is gone, apt will try to install the new one.. and then you should have no conflict.. i think02:25
chicken_manhow do i dual boot ubuntu and windows 98 please help02:25
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Choubakaesd is a sound daemon.02:26
Choubakathat is02:26
Dull404Quinn_Storm, nope mine is working... we are trying to change language02:26
Choubakabubblegum to make you able to play sound in multiple applications at the same time02:26
chicken_manhelp please!02:26
Quinn_StormDull404: ok, which version? hoary or breezy?02:26
lenovochicken_man:let me try.02:26
Dull404Quinn_Storm, hoary02:26
Nostromo^Choubaka, i know what is it, i just assumed that a process using /dev/dsp doesn't mean that you can't use alsa directly at the same time.02:26
Quinn_StormDull404: ok, I'm on breezy02:26
Quinn_StormDull404: if it comes to it I can just recompile gaim myself02:26
chicken_man:\02:26
MarkrianNostromo^, you can make esd use ALSA02:27
ztonzykent, installed graveman...no where in menus...hmm ?02:27
johan2 ztonzy: I didn't belive so thanks will try the chanel02:27
Choubakabest not use esd at all02:27
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kentztonzy: tillbehr02:27
lenovohave you installed ubuntu?02:27
ztonzyjohan2, :)02:27
Choubakait causes latencies.02:27
ztonzykent, will check02:27
Choubakaand is prone to causing instability.02:27
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chicken_manim using ubuntu02:27
Nostromo^well i don't need esd anyways.02:27
ztonzykent, ah..no icon02:27
] BreliC[kent, hmm, could work.  i guess i'll just wait and hopefully it will be fixed because others are reporting the same problem02:27
Nostromo^don't care about gnome sounds.02:27
xfSxyesh esd does cause delays when changing volume and so on02:28
kentztonzy: if you dont mind using non-free applications you can also download nero for linux from bittorrents etc.. but i see no point in doing that since graveman etc works well.02:28
kentztonzy: strange, I have an icon for it.. :)02:28
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lenovochicken_man:you mean you want to install win98 now?02:28
ztonzykent, I have heard of nero yes...will not..thanks anyway02:28
kentztonzy: perhaps I downloaded it from gravemans own homepage.. dont remember :)02:28
ztonzykent, seems it will be updated when until log in entry next time02:28
Nostromo^so wait everyone.. i was mistaken here? open()ing /dev/dsp by some legacy process renders alsa unaccessible for alsa processes?02:28
chicken_manlenovo, i will reformat disk and reinstall windows 98 and ubuntu but i want the to dual boot02:28
ChoubakaNostromo^: yes.02:28
ztonzykent, looks fit gnome gui a excellent...looks simple still easy02:29
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Choubakabecause alsa has to emulate /dev/dsp02:29
Nostromo^Choubaka, weeird. ok. thanks for the correction.02:29
Nostromo^Choubaka, we've been through that, i know :) i just assumed it emulated it and simply treated it as just one sound channel it needs to mix with the rest.02:29
Choubakaif course, with a proper sound card it'll work02:29
Nostromo^eh?02:29
lenovochicken_man:ok, I have done it.02:29
ChoubakaNostromo^: a proper sound card will do hardware mixing02:30
kentthe other application "gnomebaker" have an interface that looks a lot like nero if you like that sort of interface better. I prefer gnomebaker since that was the program I started using, so I have had no reason to try gnomebaker that much..02:30
Nostromo^Choubaka, yes i know that, but that's driver-level. alsa can do software mixing as well.02:30
Choubakayeah02:30
Choubakabut it doesn't by default02:30
Nostromo^the question of hardware/software shouldn't matter to the simple question: can you open /dev/dsp and play other alsa sounds along with it or not.02:30
chicken_manlenovo, how do i do it ?02:30
Choubakaand the oss emulation doesn't work with the dmix plugin02:30
Nostromo^ahhhh02:31
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Nostromo^NOW i gotchya :)02:31
lenovochicken_man:first, you need del you all partition if possible, then part a partition given 98 , leave enough space give ubuntu.02:31
Nostromo^btw are there nforce4 drivers for alsa already?02:31
chicken_manlenovo, yes i know that02:31
lenovochicken_man: do you have the install cd?02:31
Nostromo^hmm wait, nvidia has nforce4 drivers in their site anyways. i'll just use that.02:31
chicken_manlenovo, windows 98 and ubuntu "warty"02:32
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Nostromo^so Choubaka, how do i see which mixer plugin is currently in use, and how do i change it to my hardware one?02:32
lenovochicken_man:It is not problem, but I use hoary. when install grub, it can auto scan the disk, and auto add the 98 boot to the menu.lst.02:33
chicken_manlenovo, so a make a partition for windows with what mount point ? and a partition for ubuntu at what mount point ?02:34
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lenovochicken_man: you mean in ubuntu mount the windows partition? or see ubuntu partition in windows?02:36
lenovochicken_man:mine is  windows in /dev/hda1, then ubuntu in /dev/hda2 / , /dev/hda5 swap.02:37
chicken_manlenovo, what ehhh tell me how to do it step by step or ill get lost lol02:37
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Quinn_Stormyeah it looks like the breezy version of gaim 1.2.1 was built with gtkspell disabled02:37
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lenovochicken_man: where do you want to start?02:38
chicken_manlenovo, first diskformat and remove all partitions from there02:38
seeker_I need help getting my webcam to work. as far as I know there is no driver for linux (at least not an official one from the manufacturer). and when I run gnomeeting the webcam isn't recognized.02:39
seeker_I have a genius VideoCam web02:39
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petemcseeker_: you need to know the chipset it uses, look ay /proc/bus/usb/devices02:39
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Chameleon22what package do i need to get all the extra keys working on logitech multimedia keyboard  (elite model)02:40
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chicken_man?02:40
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=== veli_ maillerimi okuyabilceim bi programa ihtiyacm var, ubuntu kullanyorum nasl ykleyebilirim
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seeker_petemc: what am I looking for there?02:41
preglowis it possible to run breezy yet?02:41
BurgundaviaChameleon22, you can map them with the admin-->prefs->keyboard shortcuts02:41
Burgundaviapreglow, yes, but not recommended02:41
Dull404preglow, what's wrong with hoary?02:41
Chameleon22Burgundavia: will try thanks02:42
Quinn_Stormpreglow: yeah but with a few glitches..you'll need to pin your evolution files to the hoary versions and if you use kde, you'll have to pin vim to its hoary version02:42
preglowi want a newer gcc02:42
Burgundaviapreglow, wait until mid may02:42
preglowbut that's probably not in yet anyway02:42
Chameleon22Burgundavia: admin? there is no admin menu02:42
BurgundaviaChameleon22, sorry system-->prefs02:42
Burgundaviapreglow, I think they are already building with 4.002:42
Dull404preglow, build it yourself then...02:42
Quinn_Stormah, I found out why gaim isn't compiled with spellchecking turned on...libaspell hasn't caught up with the new gcc yet02:43
Quinn_Stormand yeah a newer gcc is in, 4.002:43
Quinn_Stormgcc version 4.0.0 20050413 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0-0pre11)02:43
preglowgcc4 final is due any moment02:43
preglowbut yeah, i'll wait a bit anyway02:43
Quinn_StormI'm running breezy (obviously)02:43
Chameleon22Burgundavia: there is no preferences under system lol02:43
preglowbesides, feels strange not having fifty new upgrades every day ;)02:43
BurgundaviaChameleon22, ah, you are running hoary?02:44
Chameleon22Burgundavia: correct02:44
petemcseeker_: the chipset of your camera, which will allow to to determine what v4l driver you need02:44
BurgundaviaChameleon22, left most menu should be system with submenu of preferences02:45
Chameleon22Burgundavia: did i mention i use KUbuntu02:45
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BurgundaviaChameleon22, oh, try #kubuntu02:46
BurgundaviaChameleon22, we use gnome around here02:46
Chameleon22Burgundavia: i have those guys are morons....02:46
seeker_petemc: I don't see anything like that. can you explain what I'm looking for please?02:46
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BurgisDaCrunkMasChameleon22, please don't say that, and they are your best help02:46
petemcseeker_: read a v4l linux how to, or check the wiki to see if anyones posted any guides on webcams02:46
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Chameleon22Burgundavia: well that channel handballs everyone into here02:47
BurgundaviaChameleon22, they shouldn't if you say you are using Kubuntu02:47
Chameleon22Burgundavia: well, there you go02:48
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judehi02:50
judecan anyone help me with a problem compiling qt apps?02:51
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ShachafI'm having problems setting up PHPWiki. My PHPWiki (called "hintiki") keeps linkg to http://localhosthintiki/hintiki?pagename=xyzzy instead of http://localhost/hintiki?pagename=xyzyy. Has anyone else had a similiar problem, and if so, how did they solve it?02:53
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Quinn_Stormahh, I figured it out...libaspell doesn't link against libstdc++ but it should...b/c its a c++ library...I think I can force gaim to compile/link if I use g++ instead of gcc for the step where it links libaspell02:58
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Amaranthi don't even want to check it...02:59
gomezHi to everyone02:59
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gomezI got a problem02:59
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seeker_when trying to run xawtv I get the device doesn't exit error. the site says "The device doesn't exist.  Means there is no driver module for the hardware loaded yet.  Fix your hardware setup." how am I supposed to fix my hardware setup?03:00
gomezAre there any boot/install floppies available for Hoary?03:00
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Nermalseeker_, make sure the driver is loaded and xawtv is looking at the right device I guess03:00
gomezI have a Dell Workstation with no CD boot option and need to install Hoary on it to keep my wife quiet:)03:01
seeker_I don't have a driver.03:01
petemcyou read the v4l stuff pretty quickly03:01
judegomez: all you need is a generic boot disc to transfer control to the CD, not ubuntu-specific - try googling03:01
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seeker_there wan't much to read. (at least I din't find a lot to read)03:02
gomezjude: Thanks03:03
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bourrinhi03:03
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seeker_petemc: can you give me a link to something a bit more useful? what I found was just one page on linuxquestion.org03:03
guruffcould anyone help me please; xterm crashes with error: xterm: Could not exec c: No such a file or Directory;03:04
seeker_(some other stuff as well but less usefull)03:04
Dull404wich version of Mplayer is the most stable? mplayer-386 or -586 ?03:04
petemcseeker_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras/view?searchterm=webcam03:04
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bourrinsomeone could help me please ? it's about aMule03:05
petemcseeker_: i dont know what you were looking at before, but googling for "v4l" yields many results03:05
seeker_petemc: that page is no good. my model isn't there03:05
petemcseeker_: model, or chipset?03:05
seeker_most of the links are useless (no substantial data in them)03:05
seeker_genius videocam web03:05
petemcseeker_: and the chip inside that is...?03:06
seeker_ uses the ZC0301 chip03:06
seeker_is that what you mean?03:06
petemci guess, ive never heard of that03:06
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petemcseeker_: you got that info from /proc/bus/usb/devices03:07
petemc?03:07
seeker_no, from http://genius-europe.com/service/faq/tuxcam.htm03:08
seeker_whats a cvs?03:09
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dockanehow do i shutdown the xserver ?03:11
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PacoBCNdockane, ctl+alt+backspace03:11
dockanePacoBCN, no thats a restart. i think i would like to change te runlevel03:12
dockanenvidia installe wants me to end the xserver for installation03:12
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PacoBCNyes, if you don't want to have x running at all03:12
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PacoBCNoh, I see, for compiling it against the kernel03:12
Quinn_Stormdockane: /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then make sure X is shut down03:12
judecan anyone help me with a problem compiling qt apps?03:13
dockaneQuinn_Storm, thnx03:13
dockaneQuinn_Storm, returns : "gdm is already running. abortion.03:14
seeker_can some explain what a cvs access is?03:14
Quinn_Stormdockane: you typed it wrong.  "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" is what you have to run03:14
] BreliC[dockane, 'init 3'03:14
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dockaneQuinn_Storm, why does that make a difference ?03:15
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Quinn_Stormdockane: yes it makes -all- the difference wether you put "stop" after it or not03:15
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stazzaarr. how can one adjust vim's auto-indent-depht?03:16
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petemcseeker_: looking that page, theres a chance your camera isnt supported03:16
dockaneQuinn_Storm, i changed to /etc/int.d/ and entered "sudo gdm stop".03:17
Quinn_Stormdockane: that won't work03:17
Quinn_Stormdockane: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop03:17
flyingsquirrel54where can I find directions to setup evolution groupware to work with my ms exchange server (which is not running mapi or pop3)03:17
seeker_petemc: why not? it's starred03:17
bassMonkeyHow could I make xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" run at gnome startup?03:17
Quinn_Stormdockane: you have to put the whole path03:17
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petemcseeker_: you sure you have v2 then?03:17
usynicQuinn_Storm: do I know you?03:17
usynicQuinn_Storm: from jabber?03:17
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MrNonchalantcan anyone tell me how to set up Evolution to access the mail in /var/mail?03:18
seeker_pretty sure.03:18
Quinn_Stormusynic: are you the jbother synic?03:18
petemcseeker_: how?03:18
usynicQuinn_Storm: I am.03:18
dockaneQuinn_Storm, looks like i terribly misunderstood something in the topic file hirarchy *?*03:18
Quinn_Stormusynic: then you know me03:18
usynicQuinn_Storm: ok :)03:18
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seeker_the instruction booklet says V2, but then again, it might just be out of date. how can I be sure?03:18
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Quinn_Stormdockane: you are trying to run a program in /etc/init.d/ and . is not in $PATH and when a shell executes something it looks in $PATH, starting with the first entry, so it finds /usr/bin/gdm instead of /etc/init.d/gdm03:19
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usynicQuinn_Storm: nice to see you're a ubuntu user too :)03:19
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: yeh, one sec.03:19
Quinn_Stormusynic: yeah, technically kubuntu, heh03:19
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dockaneQuinn_Storm, ah perfect awnser. thanks for the explanation03:20
petemcseeker_: tough one, they both have same ids03:20
Quinn_Stormdockane: sure03:20
seeker_petemc: the installation cd says v4. damm, how can I tell which is which?03:20
usynicQuinn_Storm: ah, not a gnome fan then?  We probably had this conversation already.03:20
harsha_k03:20
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Quinn_Stormusynic: probably, and yeah not a big gnome fan...gaim is my only gtk/gnomish app03:20
flyingsquirrel54go to tools>settings and click add03:20
Quinn_Stormusynic: well that and gnome-mud03:20
MrNonchalantflyingsquirrel54: k03:21
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: click foward and put in your address then foward again03:21
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harsha_HHHHHHH03:21
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flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: for server type pick Standard Unix mbox spool or directory03:22
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dockaneshould i backup any config files or something else for desaster recovery before i start the nvidia installer ?03:22
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: then it asks you for the directory and the rest should be obvious03:22
MrNonchalantflyingsquirrel54: path? /var/mail or /var/mail/user?03:22
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harsha_i am new to kubuntu03:23
harsha_i am new to IRC too03:23
harsha_this is my first login03:23
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flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: To be honest I've never done it, I just happened to be working on setting up my own account, I would try the default and if it doesnt work use just /var/mail03:24
MrNonchalantflyingsquirrel54: k03:24
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: besides, If you have received mail just figure out where it is03:24
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: let me know if it works03:24
stazzAnyone know how to adjust vim's indent depth?03:25
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GNAMGCC 4.0.0 OUT!03:25
GNAMftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/releases/gcc-4.0.0/gcc-4.0.0.tar.bz203:25
seeker_petemc: how do I install the driver? I always used synaptic, never installed anything manually...03:25
petemcseeker_: synaptic installs packages, you need to add kernel modules, they arent the same03:26
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seeker_ok. so how do I do that?03:26
petemcseeker_: that page that mentions your camera has documentation, you need to read it, twice03:26
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PacoBCNhey, guys anyone here is a Direct COnnect user?03:27
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MrNonchalantflyingsquirrel54: it worked. I tried /var/mail and /var/mail/user, one of the two must of worked because I received the mail03:28
MrNonchalantflyingsquirrel54: not sure which, because I was expecting it to be in the same inbox as the other accounts03:29
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IceEyzanyone knows how to get rid of default emblems, like the yellow arrows on icons that are symbolic links or mounted devices?03:29
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adamhphp4 doesn't seem to be compiled with the "zip" extension on ubuntu. Is there any way to get it (without recompiling)?03:30
Quinn_Stormadamh: I don't think so unfortunately03:30
adamhIt's not just me, right? I'm not crazy?03:30
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: If you go back to tools settings, you can change the account names, then you will be able to see more clearly which has the mail03:30
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MrNonchalantflyingsquirrel54: I'm not sure I understand you. My pop mailboxes are in one section, maildir in another each with their own set of folders. I wasn't expecting that, so I missed which worked /var/mail or /var/mail/user.03:33
ringmauerhi, do any of you guys know what i should write in shell to delete a folder?03:33
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adamhringmauer: rm -rf [folder] 03:33
Marko01 rm -rf03:34
zax123Hi guys.  I just installed PHP4/Apache2 on an Ubuntu system for the first time.  I'm moving from Debian.  I noticed that PHP4 on Ubuntu doesn't have zip support compiled in.  Any reason for this?  Anyway to get it back without compiling PHP from source?03:34
ringmauertnx adamh03:34
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: I just tried it. here's how it works (its pretty smart; this is all new to me too.)03:34
adamhringmauer: Don't type the wrong folder name, and don't put spaces, or you'll break things badly :)03:34
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant:the one where we used /var/mail shows subfolders for each user on the system whereas the one where we put /var/mail/user only has that users mail03:34
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: Of course you're probably the only user on the machine03:35
ringmauer:-D.. no problem, the folder is already gone :-D03:35
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flyingsquirrel54notice that for each account you added, another bold line appears with its own junk and trash folders03:36
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flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: understand what I'm saying?03:36
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: looks like /var/mail/user is the more correct way of doing it, although both work03:37
nydustwhat is the commando for consol based synaptic?03:37
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Ocidnydust: apt-get03:38
Ocidor aptitude03:38
MrNonchalantflyingsquirrel54: I gotcha.03:38
nydustOcid, thanks03:38
bad_mongohow do I mount my iPod in ubuntu?03:38
MrNonchalantflyingsquirrel54: Neat.03:38
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: i think so too :-)03:39
ringmauerdoes anybody know a good msn messenger prog for ubuntu?03:39
flyingsquirrel54MrNonchalant: we both learned this time03:39
bad_mongoringmauer: gaim!03:39
gooringmauer: gaim is good, i suppose. That's what I use for MSN anyways03:39
ringmauerokej, is it hard to install?03:39
ringmauerim a beginner on linux with just 2 days experience03:40
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Ocidsudo apt-get install gaim03:40
gooringmauer: no, just search for it in the synaptic package anager03:40
gooringmauer: System->Administration03:40
ringmauerwhere do i find synaptic pm?03:40
ringmaueryou were faster03:40
ringmauertnx03:40
goonp03:40
flyingsquirrel54ringmauer it should already be installed Applications >Internet>Gaim Internet messenger03:41
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judecan anyone help me with a problem compiling qt apps?03:41
ringmauerit was allready installed, can it be easier, I JUST LOVE LINUX03:42
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MrNonchalantdon't we all03:42
BazziI don't03:43
flyingsquirrel54ringmauer I JUST LOVE UBUNTU !;-)     Ubuntu is the one that installed it by default03:43
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MrNonchalantBazzi: spoil sport03:43
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flyingsquirrel54I still need help Connecting evolution to a m$ exchange server:'-(03:44
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Ocidflyingsquirrel54: do you have access to exchange web client?03:45
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Ocidflyingsquirrel54: owa that is03:45
ringmauerwhen im trying to mess someone in my buddy list gaim says Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred:03:45
flyingsquirrel54yeah, I think so, I'd have to get the details, but yes I'm pretty sure, just never use it03:46
IceEyzanyone knows how to lose the annoying default emblems on symlinks and mounted devices?03:46
Myrttiwould anyone have some insight on how to make sodipodi output stuff as pdf?03:46
Ocidflyingsquirrel54: you need to fill in the owa addy in evolution03:46
jubeihow do i apply kernel patches, i'm in /usr/src/linux-patches/i386/2.6.10 and I see apply  debian  unpatch03:46
jubei?03:46
flyingsquirrel54Ocid: ??? owa addy  what??03:47
Ocidflyingsquirrel54: heh03:47
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Ocidflyingsquirrel54: the address of the outlook web access http://mail.something.tld03:47
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flyingsquirrel54what sort of server do I choose in the drop-down box?03:48
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Ocidexchange03:48
john___Hello03:49
upsIceEyz, tried right clicking on the file and checking Properties?03:49
flyingsquirrel54Ocid: then I put the owa in the server field?03:49
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Ocidflyingsquirrel54: yep03:50
flyingsquirrel54Thanks I'll try that03:50
ringmaueris there any .wma plugin for rythmbox?03:52
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ringmauer is there any .wma plugin for rythmbox?03:54
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[Johnny] grub will not install on my pc plz is there something to change to lilo?03:55
syndhow do i mount a nikon camera?03:55
synddigital camera*03:55
synd?03:55
gooringmauer: use mplayer for wma's  Make sure to install the package w32codes  first03:56
syndanyone?03:56
gooringmauer: Take a look in the wiki for how to get w32codecs03:56
ringmauerbut i have mp3 and wma mixed, do you know any mp3 player that supports both and can handle a 6000 song playlist03:56
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Shuflahello03:57
gooringmauer: nope. I have made sure to NOT encode any music into wma. I am not sure wether or not mplayer plays wma's with DRM either.03:57
goosynd: what model Nikon camera?03:58
syndgoo: 320003:58
syndgoo: i also have a sandisk multiformat card reader that i could use also..03:58
[Johnny] Plz help how can I use lilo instead of Grub, because grub isn t able to install on my machine03:59
goosynd: the card reader would be a very sure bet, it should pop up an icon on your desktop where you may access your photos03:59
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syndgoo: ok, ill try that out04:00
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goosynd: the Nikon 3200 is supported by gphoto2 in PTP mode, so it should probably show up on the desktop as an icon as well(but I am not sure :)04:00
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syndgoo: well.. i just hooked up the card reader and it lit up.. but im not seeing anything on the desktop04:01
syndgoo: same with the 320004:01
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syndgoo: im running hoary04:02
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goosynd: yeah, me too. I just plugged in my ixus, and i had to use gtkam to access it04:03
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makkiahello04:03
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makkiawhere i find a repository for linphone 1.0 ?04:04
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makkiain hoary is 0.1204:04
syndgoo: should i try gtkam? and how do i do that..04:04
goosynd: have you been to System->Preferences->Removable Drives And Media->Multimedia ?04:04
syndgoo: trying that04:04
goosynd: if gtkam is installed just type gtkcam in a terminal window04:04
googtcam in terminal, sorry04:05
gooarr! gtkam. gah.04:05
goomy bad.04:05
syndhaha.04:05
syndgoo: i went into System->Preferences->Removable Drives And Media->Multimedia04:05
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goosynd: it says something about automagically running import of images there04:06
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goosynd: and I guess you didn't have the program gnome-volume-manager running in your gnome-session before you opened the Removable Drives And Media dialogue. Try replugging stuff now04:07
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syndgoo: well it was all enabled04:07
syndgoo: when i went in there04:08
FadeI'm trying to boot a powerbook using the hoary ppc iso, but the image doesn't seem bootable. Is it a known problem?04:08
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syndFade: check the md5 ?04:08
goosynd: did anything happen when replugging the camera or the sandisk reader?04:09
FadeYeah, it's good.04:09
FadeI've downloaded it twice just to be sure.04:09
syndgoo: nothing happened with either04:09
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Fadeon a related but interesting note, I moved the machine from debian/sid to ubuntu/hoary inline by doing a dist-upgrade, and apart from having to manually force a couple of things, it went well.04:10
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goosynd: just to be really sure: run this command in console:   ps aux | grep gnome-volume-manager  | grep -v grep04:11
dockanei would like to install the adequate driver for my video card (nVidia Corporation NV10GL [Quadro] ). is http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver my howto ?04:11
Fadeps aux | grep [g] noe-volume-manager04:11
Fadewill exclude grep from the output. ;)04:11
goldfishhehe04:12
gooFade: you clever man ;)04:12
gooFade: but grep -v grep is way moore confusing :)04:12
Fadeit's a nice trick for when your pipeline is already too bloody long. ;)04:12
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Fadeso, anybody else experiencing bootage issues /w ubuntu/ppc?04:13
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Ociddockane: yeah that howto should cover Quadro also04:14
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jubeiHow do I apply the Debian kernel patches?04:14
Burgundaviadockane, better to use www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo04:14
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dockaneOcid, Burgundavia thnx04:16
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Moe|Joe|chi04:17
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Moe|Joe|cive got the same problem as this post on the forum...04:18
Moe|Joe|chttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2772404:18
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flyingsquirrel54Ocid: You still there? this isn't working...04:19
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FadeMoe|Joe|c: try switching to a virtual console and logging in?04:19
Moe|Joe|chmm04:19
Moe|Joe|cthen activate gnome?04:20
bretzelXF86VidModeQueryVersion among others routines: missing in x-dev pkgs!!!! cannot link and can't find any refs in X11 related header files!. ....04:20
Fadethen you can look at the ~moe/.xsession-errors file04:20
Ocidflyingsquirrel54: can you athenticate with the owa?04:20
Ocidauthenticate*04:21
flyingsquirrel54Ocid: the address to owa is http://dgexchange03/exchange/jmartin. do I put all of this in the server field?04:21
Ocidnope04:21
Ocidjust  http://dgexchange0304:21
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flyingsquirrel54Ocid: Says could not connect to server http: Could not resolve hostname04:22
Ocidcan you get to that address with browser?04:23
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] BreliC[man, i can't get over how slllllllllooooooooowwwwwwwwwww my SuSE desktop box is w/KDE04:23
] BreliC[Ubuntu and Gnome is soooooooo much quicker04:23
] BreliC[KDE is just getting bloated04:24
UbuntuGetgood words ] BreliC[ :)04:25
] BreliC[UbuntuGet, hehe, thanks04:25
FoodcomanKDE 3.4 was snappy on Ubunutu compared with Mandrake!04:25
wezzerKDE is bloat04:25
flyingsquirrel54Ocid: it works fine from mozilla04:25
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Ocidflyingsquirrel54: try the FQDN name in evolution04:26
Ocidand the username should be like DOMAIN\jmartin04:27
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syndohh04:28
syndhmm04:28
syndgoo: you still here?04:28
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flyingsquirrel54Ocid: Error while Scanning folders in "Exchange server dgexchange03.dglaw.com".  Could not connect to Evolution Exchange backend process: No such file or directory04:29
computerguy867does anyone know how to get midi playback working so the use of solfege and rosegarden is possible?04:29
Ocidflyingsquirrel54: wow, that's out of my expertize, have no idea what that means04:30
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Ocidflyingsquirrel54: might be that evolution only works with exchange 200304:30
flyingsquirrel54Anyone know of a good OS program to create ISO's from CD's that will work on Win?04:31
syndok.. how do i mount a nikon coolpix 3200?04:31
flyingsquirrel54Ocid: it is 200304:31
computerguy867all i read on the ubuntu forums are posts of failure when it comes to midi04:31
dockaneflyingsquirrel54, ircc k3b is nice bruning program04:31
comforteagleDoes anyone running Ubuntu on an iBook find the resolution or size of windows a bit too large?04:31
syndcomforteagle: what model iBook?04:32
dockanecomforteagle, which resolution do you use ?04:32
comforteaglesynd, g404:32
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syndcomforteagle: well i know hardware-wise the max resolution is 1024x76804:32
Ocidflyingsquirrel54: hmz, cannot check now, don't have any exchange servers here at home04:32
comforteagledockane, synd at 1024,76804:32
syndcomforteagle: i have an iBook G4 myself, but i dont run ubuntu on it04:32
comforteaglehmm04:33
comforteagleIs there another way to shrink the size of everything a bit?04:33
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dockanecomforteagle, don't know if your modell capable of a higher resolution.04:33
Ocidflyingsquirrel54: http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/connector/2004-September/000395.html04:34
comforteagledockane, its at the max res.04:34
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syndcomforteagle: i have it running at 1024x768 on this laptop im on now and it doesnt really seem too bad.. but it is a lot different than my desktop that i have running at 1600x120004:34
syndcomforteagle: are you in gnome?04:34
comforteaglesynd, yes04:34
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SomebodyHello, I can't seem to be able to play .mid. With what can I play .mid files with?04:34
icebalmhmm, is breezy open yet04:35
mjrSomebody, timidity04:35
syndcomforteagle: have you tried using xfce or fluxbox? those seem a bit smaller than gnome04:35
dockanecomforteagle, then i cant help you sorry. had a problem on my thinkpad with the 640 resolution which wouldnt change to higher resolutions untill i changed the  display frequency in some xserver conf file04:35
comforteaglesynd, no on ubuntu.04:35
comforteagleis xfce installed by default?  I didn't notice.04:36
goldfishcomforteagle: nope04:36
goldfishget it though :)04:36
syndcomforteagle: no, apt-get it04:36
goldfishxfce4 is sweet.04:36
syndcomforteagle: i actually like it a lot better than gnome.. plus its a bit faster than gnome imho04:36
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comforteaglesynd, I do too... I run it on my tower.04:37
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syndcomforteagle: i see04:38
SignutsHey guys, what's the differences with gentoo vs ubuntu, i'm really sick of jump through emerge hoops.04:38
Fadeubuntu is based on debian, and distributes binary packages as the main package format.04:38
icebalmSignuts: please don't start distro wars, try them out yourself, see what the differences are04:38
jordanauSignuts, well i have been running ubuntu succesfully for 2 moths now and have never even heard of an emerge hoop if that helps04:39
Fadeie. you don't have to compile anything04:39
Fadeymmv04:39
Signutsi'm not sorry for asking04:39
jordanauicebalm, what???04:39
dockanedoes anybody know a benchmark to compare results with other systems ?04:39
jordanauSignuts, that was a normal question04:39
syndugh id really like to know how to get this nikon camera mounted04:39
syndanyone help?04:39
jordanaudoes gfoto support it?04:40
dockanesynd, nope sorry. never tried to mount my nikonf f3 hp ;)04:40
flyingsquirrel54Ocid: No such file or dir04:40
jordanauSignuts, you are saying you want to switch to ubuntu from gentoo?04:41
Signutsjordanau, not yet, questioning it.04:41
samiamdoes anyone have an idea what the name of the graphical package manager is that has been displayed in the screenshots for hoary and is supposed to be synaptic04:41
jordanauSignuts, thats what i thought, you were in no way starting a war04:41
samiameither I have the wrong version of its a different program04:41
syndgoo: you here?04:41
Ocidflyingsquirrel54: where, on my link? just google for that error04:41
Fadesignuts -- my amd64 box is a gentoo machine, because when I bought it, that was the best option.04:41
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icebalmjordanau: asking differences between two distribs is a good way to start a war04:42
FadeI still prefer the debian way of package management.04:42
flyingsquirrel54Ocid:  no sorry, on that page it says to run a command in the terminal.04:42
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flyingsquirrel54Ocid:  the try this...04:43
nad#04:43
nad    /msg nickserv set email admin@kanerealty.com04:43
Signutswell luckily i have a spare box to try this out. Thanks guys04:43
flyingsquirrel54I'll have to look around some more. at least I can view the emails via web, I had forgotten about that possibility04:44
Fadetake it easy04:44
jordanauSignuts, you will find the installation very easy04:44
goldfishsamiam: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2609204:44
jordanauSignuts, glad to help04:44
goldfishsamiam: might be it, ImageMagick04:45
bretzelQ: what is the puropse of having two separeted pkgs for X11 development: x-dev and xlibs-dev ???04:45
jordanauicebalm, i guess i am just still new to the linux thing04:45
Burgundaviabretzel, one is developmetn and the other is the stable release04:45
Burgundaviah04:45
BurgundaviaI can read today, really04:45
syndanyone have a clue how i can get this Nikon Coolpix 3200 mounted?04:46
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Burgundaviasynd, does dmesg see it?04:46
bretzelSo x-dev is development ? or xlibs is ? because one missing pkg was giving me brain-suck trying to compile E1704:46
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syndBurgundavia: i have no idea. dmesg in terminal?04:46
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Burgundaviasynd, run dmesg, plug it in, and then run dmesg again, and look at what is different04:47
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varlahi there anybody can tell me why I keep making these symbolic link into my dev directory and they have disappeared when I reboot04:47
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Burgundaviathe last few lines will tell you whether or not it has been detected04:47
syndBurgundavia: yeah, it sees it04:47
Burgundaviavarla, /dev is built dynamically at everyboot, taht may be it04:47
Burgundaviasynd, ok, does gthumb see the camera?04:47
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syndBurgundavia: gthumb in term?04:48
varlaBurgundivia,i used to be on warty and they always stayed there, now with hoary they dissapear and I have problems with my cd playre04:49
Fadevarla -- define symlinks you want to be persistent in /dev in the config file /etc/devfs/symlinks04:49
Burgundaviasynd, apps->graphics-->gThumb04:49
Fade(he says hoping ubuntu is the same as debian in that respect)04:49
syndBurgundavia: ah.. i dont think it sees it04:49
syndBurgundavia: ive never used gthumb before04:49
varlaok I will try that thanks04:49
Faden'p04:50
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syndBurgundavia: ?04:51
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cspnicohi04:51
varlaFade, there is no symlinks file there. Should I create one?04:52
Burgundaviasynd, yess04:52
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syndBurgundavia: how exactly do i check if gThumb can see my camera?04:52
cspnicoi search to have the name if a log which could give information from my computer thaks to a website04:52
syndnever used it04:52
Burgundaviasynd, file-->import photos04:53
Fadevarla: 'sec04:53
icebalmFade: ubuntu doesn't use devfs, it uses udev04:53
dcravencspnico, what kind of information?04:53
Burgundaviacspnico, you might have better luck at #ubuntu-fr04:54
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cspnicoyes i could drive log from another computer04:54
devazionicebalm, no? it use devfs until breezy right? :|04:54
icebalmdevazion: nope, udev04:54
Fadevarla: if ubuntu uses udev, my advice is bad.04:54
varlaFade: ok how will I know which it uses04:55
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syndBurgundavia: its not detecting the camera04:55
Fadeicbalm says it uses udev04:55
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Burgundaviasynd, hmm, it should04:55
icebalmvarla: ps aux | grep udevd04:55
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Fadein /etc/udev there will/should be a similar config for symlinks.04:56
Fadebut as I don't yet have a ubuntu system to test on, I can't say for sure.04:56
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icebalmyou can change udev.rules04:56
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syndBurgundavia: any idea how?04:56
icebalmthe format of the file is not intuitive however04:56
varlaI just look there and there is one file symlinks.conf04:57
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syndBurgundavia: i also have a sandisk multiformat card reader that i could use but im not sure how to mount that either.04:57
Fadethat'd be the one.04:57
rizlahi flks04:57
Burgundaviasynd, it should automount04:57
varlaok thanks I will look into this04:57
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syndBurgundavia: it doesnt automount04:58
syndBurgundavia: and i have it enabled in removeable drives and media prefs04:58
Burgundaviasynd, then I would say something is borked on your machine04:58
syndugh04:58
Burgundaviaare you running warty?04:59
syndno, hoary final04:59
Burgundaviainstall of hoary final?04:59
syndyea04:59
syndclean install04:59
Burgundaviahmm04:59
Burgundaviathen report the bug04:59
balorsynd: I've seen this before04:59
Tirnohi. I'm having trouble with wireless on my laptop (hoary). There is a physical button to switch the centrino wireless-card on and off. 1)After login, computer freezes if card is on. 2) often, I lose the network and cannot associate with an accesspoint in spite of sudo iwlist scan yielding results04:59
Tirnoany ideas?04:59
balorsynd: It happened after I plugged in a dodgy USB webcam04:59
sp3ttThe ubuntu live cd can find my disks, but the installer can't. Why?05:00
Nermalnote the word "dodgy"05:00
Nermalsp3tt, different kernel ?05:00
syndwell its recognizing the camera.. but i just cant get the pictures off of it.05:00
balorsynd: ah05:00
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balorsynd: what kind of webcam05:00
sp3ttNermal, do they use different kernels?05:00
syndit also notes the size card i have in the camera as well05:00
cspnicoi couldnt control my pc from a website?05:00
syndbalor: nikon coolpix 320005:01
sp3ttAnd is there a parameter to make fdisk show unpartitioned space?05:01
balorsynd: When you plug it in does a /dev/sda device get created?05:01
syndbalor: how do i check05:01
balorsynd: ls /dev | grep sda05:02
queuetueHi - I have an ubuntu server ("A") with a printer attached.  A second machine ("B") would like to use that printer.  Can anyone explain the process of making this work?05:02
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balorsynd: do this when the camera is unplugged and then plugged05:02
balorqueuetue: you'll be using CUPS then if both machines are *NIX05:02
comforteagleI just finished intalling xfce4 via apt-get.  How do I switch to it?05:02
syndcomforteagle: reboot05:03
petemcwtf05:03
syndcomforteagle: then click session on the login screen05:03
comforteaglei really have to reboot?05:03
queuetuebalor, Yes, I *KNOW* I'll be using cuos. :)  I'm asking for an explanation of how to use cups to accomplish this.05:03
syndcomforteagle: and xfce should be there05:03
petemccomforteagle: no05:03
syndcomforteagle: im not sure05:03
syndcomforteagle: i meant like restart X05:03
petemccomforteagle: try logging out, look at the sessions menu05:03
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comforteaglepetemc, ok...05:03
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syndpetemc: that didnt work when i installed xfce05:04
balorqueuetue: One machine becomes a CUPS server, the other uses the printer as shared out by that machine.05:04
syndpetemc: iono?05:04
icebalmqueuetue: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions most notably: "How can I share my printer on my LAN?"05:04
TirnoMy problem is solved by rebooting. But that's kinda silly.... I know that there are few problems under linux that can be solved with a reboot that can be solved more elegantly05:04
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petemcsynd: it should. I dont know what "iono" means05:04
Super_Cat_Froghi - im still having problems with my my udev. yesterday my udev.conf disapeared (i must have unwittingly updated it) - it wouldn't boot past "Starting Hotplug SubSystem". i got the udev.conf from the 0.50 udev, and now that wont add the /dev/hd* device nodes, so none of my filesystems will mount05:04
Super_Cat_Frogany help with that would be, er, groovy05:04
syndsynd: iono = i dont know05:04
syndpetemc: *05:04
petemcvery cryptic05:05
syndsay iono out loud05:05
syndhaha05:05
rizladoes somebody use avidemux?05:05
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icebalmSuper_Cat_Frog: reinstall the udev package?05:06
Super_Cat_Frogicebalm - tried05:06
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Tirnowhat's the etiquette here when a question doesn't get answered. Most chans I'm on, there is little traffic, so no answer means noone knows/wants to answer. Should I repeat my question or wait an hour and ask then?05:07
icebalmSuper_Cat_Frog: did you try with --force-confnew ?05:07
Super_Cat_Frogtirno, in irc, i usually wait about 15 mins, then try again05:07
Super_Cat_Frogicebalm - no, i'l try that now, ta05:07
Tirnok, thanks05:07
queuetueicebalm, Ok, that FAQ entry describes a part of the process, but hw do I actually share the printer?05:08
icebalmqueuetue: no, that FAQ entry describes the whole process05:09
sp3ttIs there a way to show unpartitioned space?05:09
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cspnicoI cannot control my pc from a website?05:09
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queuetueicebalm, I'm somehow missing the "now do this to add the printer to the remote computer" part...05:09
cspnicoi fordot thez name of the log who do that05:09
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comforteaglexfce on ubuntu on my ibook is sweeeeeet05:09
icebalmqueuetue: you add it like a networked printer05:09
queuetueicebalm, Ok.  How do "add it like a networked printer"?05:10
icebalmqueuetue: the same way you add any other printer!05:10
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Super_Cat_Frogicebalm - im gonna try rebooting now, thanks05:11
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queuetueicebalm, specifically, how do I add it?  I need to type in a URI, and Nothing I can find tells me what it is...05:11
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icebalmqueuetue: ipp://hostnameofcomputerhere/nameofprinter05:13
upshow does someone see a windows partition from a live cd?05:13
IRCMarkhi, I have a problem with phpmyadmin05:14
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MithsirHi! Is anyone running openoffice on hoary?05:14
MithsirHi! Is anyone running openoffice on hoary amd64?05:14
sp3ttups: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=022205:15
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upssp3tt, /mnt/windows has to be created?05:15
sp3ttYes,05:15
balorIs there a version of Quake2 in Universe?05:15
sp3ttsudo mkdir /mnt/windows05:16
upssp3tt, well, the system has only windows on it, and it's a live cd05:16
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upsi know how to do that on a regular system ;)05:16
sp3ttups: I am running live cd too!05:16
sp3ttAnd I have mounted my windows partition without trouble,05:16
sp3ttWeird how the live cd can find and mount them... But not the installer,05:17
upssp3tt, u mean the partitions are automounted?05:17
sp3ttNo.05:18
Tirnohi. I'm having trouble with wireless on my laptop (hoary). There is a physical button to switch the centrino wireless-card on and off. 1)After login, computer freezes if card is on. 2) often, I lose the network and cannot associate with an accesspoint in spite of sudo iwlist scan yielding results05:18
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Tirnowebsites suggest that ndiswrapper might help05:18
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upssp3tt, then what is the default mount point? (i'm helping a friend with this, dont have the live cd myself)05:18
Tirnobut after boot and pressing the button, the wireless usually works fine for a bit05:19
sp3ttI think it is /mnt/hda105:19
Tirno"a bit" being anything from 10 minutes to 7 hours05:19
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upssp3tt, so basically after the live cd has booted, what to do?05:19
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sp3ttsudo mkdir /mnt/windows05:20
sp3ttsudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=022205:20
queuetueicebalm, I get "Network host "foo" is busy: will rety in 30 seconds" iow, the standard cups "one of 30,000 possible things is wrong - please guess what it is" message...05:20
upssp3tt, err... if none of the partitions aren't mounted then where can i create that directory?05:20
upssp3tt, or am i missing something?05:21
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sp3ttcd /mnt05:21
sp3ttsudo mkdir windows05:21
upshmm05:21
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pbtravellerHi hab Probleme mit dhcpd No subnet declaration for start (0.0.0.0)05:22
gustav_balor: sort of, you'll still need the game CD to get the data-files05:22
pbtravellerjemand ne idee?05:22
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housetierpbtraveller #ubuntu-de wird eher ne Idee haben :)05:23
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pbtravellerdanke bin neu auf ubuntu/ linux werde mal schauen05:25
pbtravellerdanke05:25
Super_Cat_Frogicebalm - i did dpkg -i --force-conf (or something like that) on udev, and on a different version, but neither worked - its now just freezing at Starting Hotplug Subsystem - any ideas?05:25
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Sionidewhere do you install xmms themes?05:25
oLo, does anyone know if it's possible to edit the right click menu on the desktop?05:25
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icebalmSuper_Cat_Frog: it sounds like you will have to purge the package and reinstall it, dpkg -P05:26
housetierpbtraveller /join #ubuntu-de und dort fragen :)05:26
Super_Cat_Frogicebalm - could it be hotplug (or something else) causing this problem??05:26
queuetueDoes anyone know how to set up a network-shared printer between two ubuntu machines?05:27
no0ticdoes switch "location" in net preferences work?05:28
icebalmSuper_Cat_Frog: doubtful05:28
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icebalmSuper_Cat_Frog: but anything is possible05:29
djpdoe anybody know the best way to listen to .sid files under ubuntu hoary?05:29
djpdoes anybody even!05:29
Nermalwhat does file say about them ?05:29
djpNermal: sorry?05:30
Super_Cat_Frogis breezy being built against gcc 3.4 or gcc 4? that could be causing my udev problems (if im using the breezy version, it wont run on a system built with gcc 3.3.5)05:30
no0ticit seems to be broken..05:30
mjrdjp, dunno about the best, but at least sidplay is in universe05:30
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ChoubakaSuper_Cat_Frog: 4.0 afaik05:31
Super_Cat_Frogahh05:31
djpmjr: sure, have seen that.. what is the difference between sidplay and sidplay-base?05:31
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mjr*shrug*05:31
Super_Cat_Frogis it possible then to get apt-get to install every apps latest version (including downgrading), after removing breezy from my sources.list?05:31
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djpmjr: thanks anyway05:31
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queuetueIs there maybe some other printing system that actually works, besides cups?05:37
queuetueHeck, there are like 4 different sound alternatives that hardly work, there must be more than oe broken printing system. :)05:38
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waveok whats with this badger thing? breezy badger? bsd badger? Where the heck did a badger come from?05:39
uggwarqueuetue: you can share the printer over samba05:39
queuetueuggwar, It05:39
uggwarqueuetue: sorry?05:39
Tirnowave: itsa badger badger badger badger05:39
queuetue's a little embarassing that that's probabl how I have to do it...05:39
uggwarqueuetue: hehe05:40
queuetueuggwar, Sorry, stray return.:)05:40
wave???05:40
uggwarqueuetue: I was a bit too fast there :)05:40
Tirno(mushroom mushroom)05:41
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queuetuelasagna05:41
Tirnosurely you've seen the irritating flash movie?05:41
queuetueTirno, Oh, you were actually making a point? :)05:41
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Iron_Monkeyany one good with Kubuntu ?05:42
waveirritating flash movie?05:43
Choubakalooping one05:43
Choubakaloops are annoying05:43
Choubakabecause they're addictive :|05:43
wavewhat do I need to google? or does anyone have a link?05:43
bretzelRunning E17 -- How to add E17 se3ssion in gdm ?? searched in all places but no clue05:43
Nermalwave, no idea.. ask jdub05:44
bretzelI mean, add E17 in choices in gdm05:44
Nermalthey seem to have an animal as the second word and an uber dodgy word as the first05:44
Nermalthere is a ubuntu list announcement as to why he chose "breezy" and I guess badger as its an animal starting in "b"05:44
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cspnicohow use terminal with webmin?05:45
NermalI see oreilly books on "hoary hedgehog" having a hedgehog splaying its legs with skimpy underwear on the front cover :|05:45
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flodinecan muine get album covers for you?05:46
Arniaflodine: Yep... from Amazon05:46
ArniaDoes it automatically05:46
flodinehow  do i do that05:46
syntaxisNermal: breezy isn't that dodgy a word... it's fairly often used to mean "fresh", "animated", "energetic"05:47
waveI found it.05:47
] BreliC[syntaxis, also means nonchalant, as in attitude05:47
waveand all I have to say is ...............05:47
Nermalsyntaxis, I was referring to hoary05:48
] BreliC[wave, how difficult was it to install E17 on Hoary?05:48
flodineArnia how do i get it to auto get album cover?05:48
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bretzel] BreliC[: I am actually rinning E17, just finished compiling it ...05:48
syntaxisNermal: ah, ok... I read "they seem to have an animal as the second word and an uber dodgy word as the first" as being a more general statement05:49
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wavesorry never messed with E17 on ubuntu. only gentoo and it was only elogin and such never got the windows manager.05:49
Fab_hi05:49
bretzel] BreliC[: But I have to stop xwindow and then write ~/.xinitrc file to run it ... I am asking for how-to add E17 as choice in gdm or other05:49
] BreliC[bretzel, sorry, i meant to ask you... how is it?  any problems compiling it?05:49
waveHas anyone seen bannana phone?05:50
bretzel] BreliC[: no unresolveable probs: need : x-dev, xlibs-dev, ltdl3-dev pkgs05:50
Fab_quick question: where is the arror icon located, the one that closes/opens panels / drawers05:50
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Fab_arrow*05:50
bretzel] BreliC[: and of course E17 sources... get the sources and follow guide from "http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org05:51
bretzel] BreliC[: And how is it: --- WOW! but no such tools because it is still in early dev stages... but usable and very eye-candy! :-)05:51
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GibbyHi guys. I have a problem. I was trying the AMD64 live 5.04, trying to recover some data on old disks. The disks are using ReiserFS. I can mount them fine, but when I try deleting a directory, the Kernel panics: "not syncing: Aiee! killing interupt handler."05:52
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GibbyAny idea what's going on?05:52
GibbyI've tried this twice, and the same results each time.05:53
] BreliC[bretzel, nice!  I've been looking at it for a while, just never got around to actually compiling it.  I think i'll give it a shot.05:53
keffohm, odd question.. you know between the scenes in moviemaking.. you use a little black 'n white stuff you "klicking" with05:53
keffowhat is that called+05:53
bretzel] BreliC[: and actually cannot find its famous file-manager that I see often in E17 screenshots...05:53
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bretzel] BreliC[: not that long to compile btw, ( I am using P4 @2.4 ghz and took only few minutes to compile all the stuff05:55
dj28does anybody here know how i can isntall msttcorefonts on ubuntu? it's in debian but seems to be missing from ubuntu05:55
queuetueI have a pair of ubuntu servers - ("A") with a printer named "foo" attached, and a second machine ("B") that would like to use that printer.  I have changed Location "/" to allow 192.168.1.*, changed Listen 127.0.0.1:631 to "port 631" on "A" and on "B", have added a printer that points to "ipp://A/foo".  instead of printing, I get  the standard cups error "A is busy. trying again in 30 seconds" (or something very similar to that.)05:56
queuetueCan anyone explain how to fix this?05:56
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Super_Cat_Frogicebalm - i tried that, still doesn't work05:57
e-ogmaHow does Ubuntu work with ADSL modems? fine? I could use a D-link or a Quick Connect modem, which one would be best?05:57
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howyJust installed Ubuntu 5.04 as a server05:57
howyFound some bugs, also some suggestions05:58
GibbyHi guys. I have a problem. I was trying the AMD64 live 5.04, trying to recover some data on old disks. The disks are using ReiserFS. I can mount them fine, but when I try deleting a directory, the Kernel panics: "not syncing: Aiee! killing interupt handler."05:58
howybiggest problem area was sendmail - realize that is not a supported package - should I still report them?  If so - where?05:59
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icebalmSuper_Cat_Frog: that sucks05:59
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TTilusqueuetue: just a guess..  try ipp://A:631/foo05:59
SabatorCan someone help me? I have a recurring problem with the GRUB failing to boot my windows partition correctly. I fixed it before but I forgot how.06:00
Super_Cat_Frogicebalm - it does, yes06:00
tritiumdj28, msttcorefonts is in multiverse06:00
Fab_bretzel: do i need to compile all the packages on that site in the order mentioned there, or just the enlightenment one06:01
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tritiumSabator, you may need to enable LBA in your bios06:01
Super_Cat_Frogsabator - at the risk of sounding like a stuck record of windows jokes - thats a feature06:01
TTilusqueuetue: another guess would be http://A:631/printers/foo06:01
SabatorI remember I had to go into the GRUB menu file and the arguement "unhide" was very important, but there was another part to it. I got the answer from this channel last time06:02
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dj28tritium, weird, i didn't see it06:02
tritiumdj28, but you found it now?06:02
dj28tritium, but it worked out fine. they seemed to install automatically when i installed cabextract06:02
cspnicoi can use irc with webmin?06:02
TTilusqueuetue: I have a server running cups and client has DeviceURI http://tavi:631/printers/hp in /etc/cups/printers.conf06:02
TTilustavi is the server and printer is called hp06:03
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queuetueTTilus, ok, thanks for that (trying now.)06:03
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Super_Cat_Frogicebalm - is there anything i can do short of reinstalling?06:04
SabatorWell if nobody knows for sure, let's try an alternate solution. A lot of you must idle this channel a lot, right? if people could search their logs for my name, and let me know what the solution was, that would be a great help. I've only been in this channel once before.06:04
icebalmSuper_Cat_Frog: maybe, I'm not sure what it might be06:05
Super_Cat_Frogdoes anybody else have any idea what could cause ubuntu to stop booting at "Starting Hotplug Subsystem"?06:05
comfreySuper_Cat_Frog: it is looking for stuff06:06
comfreySuper_Cat_Frog: it stops all tgether?06:06
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Super_Cat_Frogcomfrey - it just stops altogether (left it for ages but it didn't do anything)06:06
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agenteodo you know the way to avoid the opening of two nautilus windows when you double click on a not mounted device icon from GNOME?06:07
XplOzIonHi all06:07
comfreySuper_Cat_Frog: hmm... well ... i would start by blacklisting certain modules...06:07
Super_Cat_Frogcomfrey - it was working yesterday morning, but i had breezy in my sources.list so i might have upgraded it unwittingly. ive tried removing breezy from my sources.list, purging udev and hotplug and installing the latest version in hoary but that didn't help06:07
Super_Cat_Frogcomfrey - ah, i didn't think of that06:07
XplOzIonagenteo: Yeah, go to System Tool -> Configuration Editor06:08
comfreyor... turn off hotplug and see what mods it needs or so06:08
Fab_bretzel: why has thou forsaken me??06:08
XplOzIonSelect Apps -> nautilus06:08
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agenteoXplOzIon: ok06:09
XplOzIonagenteo: Preferences and check always_use:browser06:09
comfreySuper_Cat_Frog: check out the  hotplug config and you can tell it to look for certain things06:09
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comfreypair down what it is looking for in single usermode,06:09
XplOzIonagenteo: that way you will use it like u wanted06:09
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comfreyand perhaps see if there is a verbose option06:09
Super_Cat_Frogcomfrey - any particular file, my blacklist seems to be as it was06:09
agenteoXplOzIon: it was already checked06:09
tritiumSabator, you can't hit a key (Esc, for example) at boot time and get to the menu?  You can always comment out "hiddenmenu" in your /boot/grub/menu.lst and then run "sudo update-grub"06:09
comfreyum... hnag on, i can check06:09
agenteoXplOzIon: I'm already using it in browser way06:10
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Sabatortritium, I can get to the menu fine06:10
XplOzIonagenteo: oh, hmm06:10
Sabatorbut I can't remember the exact command06:11
Sabatorfor booting Windows06:11
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XplOzIonbrb06:11
Sabatorbecause I moved the partition06:11
tritiumSabator, it's not a menu item?06:11
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agenteoXplOzIon: by the way I've noticed the difference :) looks like when it's not in browser the double window is not opened06:11
agenteoat least fot the floppy06:11
Sabatorwell I actually edited menu.lst before tritium06:11
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tritiumSabator, you'll have to edit it to reflect the new partition info, and run "sudo update-grub"06:12
comfreySuper_Cat_Frog: so... i was thinking of diiscover... i m not so sure off the top of my head how to restrict hotplug...06:12
Fab_checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp06:12
Fab_configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check06:12
Fab_See `config.log' for more details.06:12
Fab_any suggestions?06:12
Sabatoredit it how, tritium?06:12
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tritiumSabator, your editor of choice.  e.g., "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"06:13
Sabatoryeah, but what do I edit?06:13
eruinnano -w06:13
queuetueTTilus, Apparently the "secret" was top restart cups an 8th time - the 7th must not have been enough to truip the "voodoo bit".06:13
Fab_queutue: lol06:14
Fab_my printer works now, btw06:14
Fab_over smb06:14
SabatorI really wish I could remember how I fixed the problem last time06:14
Sabatorit's doing my head in06:14
Sionidepico is easy06:14
SabatorI spoke to all my mates and tried to get logs off them06:14
Sionidei much prefer pico to vi06:15
Super_Cat_Frogfab_ - apt-get install build-essential06:15
SabatorI use gedit all the time06:15
Super_Cat_Frog(iirc)06:15
Sionideor gedit, yeah06:15
bretzelFab_ bretzel: why has thou forsaken me?? uh ???06:15
flyingsquirrel54 anyone know of a irc about wine?06:16
Fab_super_cat_frog: argh, yes, thank you06:16
Fab_bretzel: lol, i asked you a question, but you didnt answer ;)06:16
Fab_bretzel: do i need to compile all the packages on that site in the order mentioned there, or just the enlightenment one <- that one06:16
nickrudcomfrey, you're trying to blacklist some modules?06:16
bretzelFab_: Sorry I was AFK or asking in #e channel for stuff06:16
Fab_no prob :P06:16
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bretzelTake only tose with higher 00x version ones06:16
Fab_yep06:17
Super_Cat_Frognickrud - me, my hotplug is crapping out on boot06:17
Fab_figured that already06:17
Fab_wish me luck ;)06:17
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nickrudSuper_Cat_Frog, create a file in /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d, and put the modules there, one per line06:17
bretzelyou will need to tar xvfz all the archives and enter in each dirs and configure( --prefix=/usr  : I did it that way )  && sudo make install in each dirs06:18
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Fab_bretzel: yep06:18
Fab_im configuring already ;)06:18
nickrudthere's also a $VERBOSE line in /etc/init.d/hotplug where you can get verbose messages to messages.log06:18
pontHey06:18
Super_Cat_Frognickrud - ive alreadgot a blacklist file (its calle /etc/hotplug/blacklist, blacklist.d is a directory) im just not sure what to put in my blacklist to stop it breaking (it worked fine yesterday morning)06:19
pontMultiTrack recorder :P what kinda stuff can I install06:19
SabatorI think the problem I'm having is that when i installed Hoary I shoved the Windows partiton out of the way to make room for the linux one, insteadof putting the Linux partition behind the Windows one, so when Windows is trying to boot it can't find it's own files. I could use a partitioning program to move Windows back to it's normal position, but then Ubuntu wouldn't boot, and I know there's a simpler solution.06:19
Super_Cat_Frognickrud - just realised you said create a file *in* blacklist.d06:19
ScislaCnot exactly an Ubuntu Q, but it's the OS I'm running into the prob on... I setup pureftpd and used pureadmin to add users... when I try to login it says user authentication failed... anyone have any clues?06:19
bretzel:-) and enjoy: After that run enlightenment and fire up your browser to: http://evidence.sourceforge.net/ get the files link, grab eveidence----*---.deb file! yes there is one :-)06:19
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Super_Cat_Frogscislac - i have no idea about your problem, but the only ftp server i got running and working in short order on gentoo was vsftpd - very easy to setup06:20
bretzelFab_: and then I am actually searching for "examine", the tool for the evidence's prefs editor06:20
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Fab_bretzel: lol06:20
Fab_one thing at a time ;)06:20
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Super_Cat_Frogsabator - isn't there a boot.ini file or something like that in windows, that tells itself where it is06:21
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GoonieCan anyone point me to a good tool to modify keyboard layouts?06:22
Super_Cat_Frogalso, i dont think ubuntu would be bothered by being moved, just give grub the right info06:22
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Sabatorhow would I make sure GRUB has that info?06:22
StrissHey there...I'm running Hoary, I was wondering how I find out what Video Driver I'm currently using?06:22
SabatorI can't really get into ubuntu to update it automaticallu06:23
ryanblacklook in xorg.conf...?06:23
Sabatorstriss, run glxgears06:23
pontHas anyone read the review of ubuntu in linux journal ?06:23
Sabatorif you get a shit framerate06:23
ryanblackah that would be easier..06:23
ryanblackah06:23
Sabatorthen you need better drivers06:23
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GoonieHow do I map the windows key to something else?06:23
gypsymaurohello06:23
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gypsymaurosomeone running ubuntu can query me the content of /etc/udev/rules.d/z_hal-plugdev.rules06:24
gypsymauro?06:24
Strissglxgears gets me 96FPS...but when I try to run any gl apps, they are insanely slow...i have an onboard intel video chipset, should GL work with that?06:24
moquistgypsymauro: I don't have that file.06:25
gA96FPS is a bit poo06:25
mjrStriss, depends, really, but for you it probably doesn't. See glxinfo though, the line about Direct rendering06:25
Strissk06:25
mjrat least some intels should work with DRI, some might not be out of the box (I'm not too familiar with intels myself, sadly)06:25
StrissDirect Rendering is not enabled06:26
mjryep06:26
mjrthe X log file will probably say why06:26
dockaneis there a program to read out information of ram modules ?06:26
Strissalrighty, checking now06:26
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mjrbut I gotta go now, hungry06:26
Striss(**) I810(0): Direct rendering disabled06:27
Strissthats all i can find in the log about it06:27
gypsymauromoquist: tanx06:27
mjrStriss, before I go, dri.sourceforge.net might be a place to look for info06:27
Strissalrighty, thanks mjr06:27
mjrStriss, is there something related immediately above that text?06:27
Strissnope, just says DPMS enabled06:28
mjrhmh06:28
mjrah well06:28
dr_willisi was thinking for the intel 810 - theres a kernel module you need to enable  befor X loads.06:28
Strisshmm, (II) LoadModule: "dri"06:28
Striss(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a06:28
nickrudStriss, how much memory do you have allocated to the 810?06:28
Strissno idea, its shared memory so i dunno much about it06:28
gustav_Goonie: use the System->Settings->Keybordshortcuts tool (I'm not sure it is exactly as that, mine is in Swedish)06:29
mjrah yes, if you have too little allocated it probably affects 3d capabilities badly06:29
nickrudIf you don't give it enough, it won't do threeD06:29
Strissoh wait, i found the problem in the log06:29
Strissi'm using 24bit depth06:29
mjron my old laptop (radeon 7500 with 16 megs) I could only have 3d when running at 800x600, which sucked06:29
Striss(**) I810(0): DRI is disabled because it runs only at 16-bit depth.06:30
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Strisshow do I go about switching to 16bit from 24?06:30
ivokshi folks06:30
mjrStriss, well, there you have it then. A bit of a shame, but at least it's fixable by giving up something...06:30
ryanblackforgive the ignorance but was is DRI for....06:30
ryanblack;-)06:30
ivoksi'm a new ubuntu user :)06:30
mjrStriss, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change DefaultDepth06:30
SabatorGO YOU06:30
Strissthankya06:30
Strissdo I need to shut down X first?06:30
ivoksnope, but u need to restart it (ctrl alt backspace)06:31
mjrno, but you'll need to restart after06:31
ryanblackI think you can change it and then save.... ---^06:31
mjrecho06:31
ryanblackwhat he said..06:31
Strissk thanks a lot guys, you're all great help06:31
Strissubuntu rocks as well hehe06:31
xfSxi've got problems making a public smb share, publicly broweseable and readable by anyone (like in xp), i've messed around with smb.conf but can't seem to get it workin06:31
nickrudStriss, and make sure you have a VideoRam line in the driver section, 32768 will set aside 32M06:31
ivoksyeah, ubuntu is really nice desktop distro06:31
ivoksi agree06:31
xfSxtry out some of the themes fron art.gnome.org with it, sweeet06:31
ivoksxfSx that's pice of cake06:31
mjrok, _now_ to eat ;)06:32
ryanblackhmmp I like kde better...06:32
xfSxivoks, cool, how? i tried the shared folders app but..06:32
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xfSxyou run kubuntu?06:32
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ringmauerhow to watch divx in ubuntu?06:32
ryanblackand then added kde06:32
xfSxringmauer, apt-get install vlc06:33
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ivoksxfSx /q xfSx06:33
flodinecan someone help me get muine to get album covers auto06:33
ringmauerokej i see06:33
xfSxivoks?06:33
flodinedont see where you do that06:33
ringmauerxfSx never installed something in linux before, but do i need a lot of packages or just one+06:33
ringmauer?06:33
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ryanblackI am having an issue with getting opengl to work now that I installed Kde and took off gnome...06:33
ivoksryanblack nope...06:34
ryanblackI suppose I could just reinstall with the kubuntu cd and reinstall the drivers etc..06:34
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ryanblackI don't have anything setup since I just installed *ubuntu to begin with06:34
ringmauerWhat version of Vlc should i have to make it work with ubuntu?06:34
ryanblackwhen I log into kde I cannot use opengl06:34
ryanblackbut when if I used gnome it was fine06:34
Sabatorringmauer get the latest one06:35
ringmauerbut for what os06:35
ryanblacksomething about not using the right screen06:35
Sabatorwhat OS?06:35
ringmaueryes vlc for ubunto doesnt exist06:35
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Sabatorapt-get install vlc06:35
Sabatorit doesn't work?06:35
Mestaphelesxwvlc06:35
karljpapt-get install kernel-source-2.6.11; untar, copy /boot/oldconfig into source, make oldconfig, make-kpkg should make a prefectly functional kernel right?06:35
ringmaueril try again06:35
ivokspeople with Alps touchpad really hate 2.6.11+ kernels06:35
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Sionidethe worst thing about my ubuntu install is it's on my laptop, which runs at 1024x768 which i'm not used to because my desktop monitor runs at 1280x1024 :(06:36
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Mestaphelesrather wxvlc exists on ubuntu06:36
ringmauerno it doesnt work06:36
ringmauerbut doesnt i have to download some files before installing+06:36
moquistohboy.  what hoops do I need to jump through to get OOo2 working?  it complains about Java and dies ATM.  should I go with Sun, Blackdown...something else?06:37
Dephtringmauer, you need to add the universe repository06:37
ringmauerand where can i add that?06:37
flodineis there a muine room06:37
Dephtringmauer, the repositories dialog from synaptic is an easy way; it's in the settings menu06:37
ryanblackso... what good fps' can I get for *nix06:37
ryanblack;-)06:38
Dephtq3?06:38
Sionideq3 = quake 306:38
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ryanblackfree?06:38
Dephtyes, just couldn't be bothered with that many letters06:38
dr_willisRTCW:ET = free06:38
ivokswhy doesn't ubuntu listen to what I say in sudoers?!06:38
ringmauerDepht: I cant find it can u tell me more specific where i fint the repsoitores dialo06:38
ringmauerg06:39
ryanblackenemy territory!!06:39
ivoks%admin  ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/fetchnews, /usr/bin/pon, /usr/bin/poff, /usr/bin/network-admin06:39
ryanblackwoohoo06:39
Dephtringmauer, in synaptic, the settings menu06:39
ivoksand no... he asks pass every time.. i hate that06:39
ryanblackI need to google for that...06:39
ryanblackbut first I need to get opengl in kde working06:39
GoonieI need help with my laptop keyboard layout plz06:39
ryanblackkubuntu = dead room06:39
ryanblack;-)06:39
Choubakaivoks: did you edit it with visudo?06:40
nickrudtoo busy with the eye candy06:40
Choubakaare you sure the syntax is correct?06:40
dr_willisit has nothing to do with kde ryanblack  - its an X configuration issue.06:40
ivoksChoubaka of course :)06:40
queuetueWhat is kubuntu, aside from ubuntu with apt-get install kde?06:40
Amaranthryanblack: #ubuntu = uses GNOME and can't help :)06:40
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ryanblackI know..06:40
Amaranthqueuetue: It's Ubuntu with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:40
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ivoksChoubaka well, man sudoers says it is... and my experience says it is06:40
ryanblackqueuetue I cannot tell06:40
ryanblackI installed ubuntu..06:41
AmaranthChoubaka: XFCE?06:41
ryanblackand took a kubunu cd06:41
Choubakayes.06:41
ryanblackand added kde06:41
ryanblacksince I like kde and know my way around from forever ago when I used linux06:41
dr_willisryanblack,  there was no need to do that either. You could of 'apt-get install kubuntu'   (or similer)'06:41
ryanblackubuntu kbuntu are new to me I have been away from the scene forever..06:41
ChoubakaI should design an xfce-desktop package.06:41
ryanblackdr_willis: I know I don't have net at home on that box06:41
ryanblack:-\06:42
ryanblackI can't apt-get anything06:42
ivoks?06:42
Choubakasure you can06:42
Choubakafrom the CD :p06:42
ryanblackwell from what he meant06:42
nickrudryanblack, apt-zip is the tool for you06:42
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ryanblackcould I use that to install on my pb os x and grab stuff and then move via usb stick to ubuntu06:43
ryanblack?06:43
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ryanblackthere is an apt-zip port to os x somewhere right?06:43
nickrudthat's the purpose :)06:43
GoonieI need help with my laptop keyboard layout plz06:43
ryanblackGoonie: what's wrong..?06:43
queuetueGoonie, "q" is next to "w" .. :)06:44
ryanblacknickrud: how would I grab stuff via apt-zip on a pb and take that .deb or whatever output and move to the ubuntu box?06:45
Choubakaqueuetue: not in dvorak :p06:45
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Dephtno one knows where 1 is on dvorak, other than "somewhere in a corner"...06:45
queuetueChoubaka, yeah, I was worried someone would bring that up. :)06:45
Depht* q06:45
nickrudIt's been a while, but you apt-zip on ubuntu, it creates a script you run on the xp box, which downloads the needed debs.06:45
Goonieryanblack~ nothing is wrong I guess but the Icelandic layout has a key next to z that has the "more than" and "less than" char.... my laptop doesn't have that key so I wanted to change my windows key to do that function06:45
nickrudtake 'em back to ubuntu, and install.06:46
ryanblackI am on a powerbook..06:46
ryanblack..? will this work on os x....06:46
ryanblacklike it'll make me a shell script that'll run in tcsh?06:46
ryanblackhaha06:46
nickrudprobably, and also a .bat06:46
karljp ert fr sland!06:46
Choubakathe <> key is keycode 9406:46
ryanblackGoonie: ah I understand...06:47
karljpchoubaka, that's a bold assumption06:47
ryanblacknickrud:  Ah I'll have to tinker with that...06:47
ryanblackbut I'd rather have net :-(06:47
Dave2|LaptopHey. I'm having trouble getting evolution installed on Breezy; it complains that libcamel1.2-3 isn't going to be installed (I've already installed it), and that e-d-s won't be installed (it also complains about libcamel1.2-3). Is this a known problem, or just me?06:47
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Danimallhi, everyone!06:47
Choubakawell, in my layout it is :D06:47
nickrudryanblack, no tinkering needed, it's a solid, tested package06:47
seeker_when I run sound recorder and try to record it doesn't grab audio from the mic, even though in the mixer I enabled the mic. how can I get it to grab audio from the mic?06:47
ivoksand open log.smbd06:47
queuetueDave2|Laptop, hoary is only a few days old!  Why are you runnng breezy already? ;)06:47
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Dave2|Laptopqueuetue, stable sucks! :P06:48
Choubaka:P06:48
ChoubakaHoary != debian stale06:48
DephtDave2|Laptop, I get that too, downgraded a few packages again06:48
queuetueHeh.06:48
Danimallanyone has experience with mmc/sd card readers?06:48
Amaranthqueuetue: masochism06:48
Choubakaooops :DDDD06:48
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ChoubakaI did _not_ inted to type stale06:48
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Dave2|LaptopDepht, I guess I ought to just wait a bit and use thunderbird or something in the mean time06:48
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ChoubakaI in fact typed stable06:48
nickrudanyone here read the new dpl's recent interviews?06:48
Choubakaonly I pressed ctrl-b by accident06:49
queuetueChoubaka, the "b" is next to the "n".06:49
queuetueChoubaka, unless you use dvorak.06:49
ivokspeople, u do so much noise :)06:49
Dave2|LaptopChoubaka, I'm well aware06:49
ivoksi can't see what man is writing to me :)06:49
Dave2|LaptopBut it's Ubuntu stable :P06:49
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dequackerHi.06:50
queuetueWell, I feel put in my place.06:50
dequackerCan someone please help me?06:50
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Dephtdequacker, what with?06:50
dequackerI have a problem installing DVD::Rip (and the forums haven't been able to help me) :(06:50
queuetuedequacker, Don't ask to ask, just ask.06:50
guruffhi; i have question about gnome menu; i have an 'directory' in gnome menu called Debian; tried to got rig of it rm -rf /var/lib/gnome/Debian and rm /usr/share/desktop-directories/Debian.directory... but it's still there; any idea how to got rid of it ?06:50
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Dephtdequacker, from marillat's place?06:50
dequackerDepht, yes.06:51
dequackerWhat're my options?06:51
nickrudguruff, purge the package menus and menu-xdg06:51
nickrudguruff, purge the packages menu and menu-xdg :)06:51
Dephtdequacker, does it not just work?06:51
dequackerDepht, exactly.06:51
dequackerIt can't install using apt-get, and I can't apt-get transcode either.06:51
moritz_is there any channel en espaol? o ???06:52
dequackermoritz, para que buscas ese canal?06:52
dequackerno hablas ingles?06:52
eruiny tu mama tambien06:52
nickrudmoritz_, I think it's called #ubuntu-es06:52
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Dephtdequacker, when does it go wrong? it selects all the packages for me, but I don't fancy installing them all right now...06:52
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moritz_habalo ingles y aleman pero estudio espaol ;)06:52
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moritz_nickrud, that seemed quite correct :) - thanks.06:53
DanimallI need help with a built-in mmc/sd card reader!!!06:53
nickrudI just did an irc search on #ubuntu, it's still in short term memory :)06:53
dequackerdepht I have this same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1775806:53
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dequackermoritz ist deutscht? oy vey. Der Untergang ist gut.06:54
Amaranthdequacker: English please.06:54
Burgundaviadequacker, try #ubuntu-de06:55
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dequackerThanks, but I was just replying something to moritz. I speak fluent English. No need to recommend me to go here and there. :)06:55
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moritz_dequacker, lol ...06:56
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ivokscan u dcc smb.conf to me and i will look it here?06:56
ivoksfuck06:56
moritz_dequacker, my mom's tounge is german... secound language is english. Third started was latin. Fourth started(2 weeks) french, and than some chinese. Now I'm trying to pick up spanish...06:57
dequackerHmm.06:57
dequackerLOL. I don't think they'll like it if you try them out in here, moritz.06:57
guruffnickrud; purge menu and menu-xdg :) thx, helped06:57
ivoksi speek croatian. only croatian.06:57
queuetueOfftoic, but ... I'd love to learn french - does anyone have a suggested method? (American, english-only speaker)06:57
karljpmove to france06:58
Jimbobqueuetue: Move somewhere where they speak french?06:58
dequackerwtf. Now everyone is interested in learning foreign languages.06:58
moritz_well I think quebeck is closer :)06:58
karljpthey don't speak french there :)06:58
moritz_Well that's even written wrong.06:58
karljpthey speak quebecistani06:58
bretzelYes Quebec is06:58
dequackerDepht, any insight on what the problem with DVD::Rip might be?06:58
moritz_karljp, well they speek something that is close to what the frogs speak....06:58
queuetueJimbob, That;s actually the reasoin for learning - to ease a move. :)06:58
nydustwhere do i see what port mysql are running on?06:58
karljpcloser than english I guess :)06:58
moritz_Perdono! - french speak.06:58
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Dephtdequacker, not really, I don't get any dependency messages at all06:59
queuetueMontral, in fact. :)06:59
moritz_karljp, nah. If you don't speak french up there. They'll kill you right away.06:59
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karljpcanadians dont' kill people06:59
karljpthey just say bad things.06:59
dequackerDepht, I do. I don't know what the problem is. I tried the solution one of these guys gave in the forum and it didn't help me.06:59
karljponly americans kill people for not speaking their language06:59
cobbdo any free programs exist that generate UML diagrams from java code?06:59
dequackerI tried this "What you can do, is download libvorbis0_1.0rc3-1_i386.deb from rpmseek.com then enter the following to force the installation of libvorbis0 over libvorbis0a."06:59
moritz_cobb, I'd look around the eclipse stuff.06:59
dequackerBut I've no idea how to make it work.07:00
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cobbmoritz_: oops, sorry. Wrong channel but thank you!07:00
moritz_cobb, no es nada!07:00
Jimbobkarljp: Naw, there are plenty of countries that kill people for not speaking the language -- you just need to be drunk and beligerant around cops when you are "not speaking the language"07:00
karljpshoot first, ask questions later.07:00
moritz_crap-- I'm still missing the leading upside down questionmark.07:00
karljpthe motto of all good police forces07:00
dequackerThis is the package that has the dependency problem, and causes transcode not to install. This code will install the package regardless of the dependency issues. So just go into synaptic, or apt-get transcode and dvdrip.07:00
dequackerCouldn't make the above work.07:00
lunitikkarljp: can't ask questions if they kill you first  :/07:01
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moritz_karljp, the only rule I follow is: if you shoot someone, make sure he's dead. It's easier for you in court than.07:01
karljp"I only wanted a coke!"07:01
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lunitikmoritz_: ha07:01
karljpmoritz: that's a useful one :)07:01
moritz_karljp, it's called pop!07:01
ryanblacksoda...07:01
karljpsoft drink07:01
Jimbob(Or soda in some areas)07:01
ryanblackgotta love that brand name association..07:01
ryanblackI live in the southern us.. all soda is coke..07:01
moritz_yea. But that stuck.07:02
karljpwell, I did want a coke, not some generic softdrink07:02
ryanblackI hate when people call it that..07:02
cobbI've updated to freezy and I've found a bug I think. Are there any channels I can report this in (I'm to lazy to use any bugzilla-like interfaces)?07:02
ryanblacksam's choice baby07:02
ryanblack!07:02
seeker_I can hear my voice through the speakers, but sound recorder woun't record my voice (and other people can't hear me on skype even though I can hear them and myself through the speaker)07:02
moritz_In germany if you order a coke they'll look queer at you. And beg your pardon...07:02
lunitikcobb: what is the bug?07:02
seeker_anyone know how I can fix that?07:02
Choubakahttp://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/04/11/ubuntu <- This is a good read.07:02
karljpin california, my accent made them look at me funny when I asked for a coke too, and I speak english nativly!07:03
cobblunitik: xmms-flac makes xmms go: "*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xb6e1d932 ***" and then die.07:03
moritz_karljp, I learned schools english. It got ruined completely in Wisconsin...07:03
ryanblackkarljp: where from?07:03
karljp.au07:03
lunitikcobb: XMMS is not supported... no real point filing a bug on it  :/07:03
ryanblackah07:03
moritz_aussie!07:03
karljp.is now.07:03
ryanblackBirmingham - al - usa here...07:03
nickrudseeker, you can try alsamixer and see if some obscure thing is muted07:03
moritz_.is?07:03
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karljpup here in the north07:04
cobblunitik: no, but when breezy goes stable shouldn't xmms work with xmms-flac?07:04
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karljpabout as far from .au as you can get :)07:04
lunitikcobb: its not supported... so it certainly wouldn't be a priority... now if Rhythmbox didn't work with FLAC...07:04
moritz_I wanted to visit .au all my life long...07:04
karljpyou should, it's great07:05
moritz_gotta get somewhere down south...07:05
karljpryan, I think I drove across al without stopping.07:05
ryanblackI don't doubt you...07:05
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ryanblackI wouldn't stop either....07:05
ryanblackha07:05
moritz_I've been to HongKong already... Beautiful... But I'm never going to go on a trip like that withough a girl again...07:05
seeker_nickrud: i unmuted everything and tried. still no record07:05
karljpactually, no I stopped for lunch in mobile.07:05
karljpDidn't stop in mississipi07:05
lunitikcobb: ps, you have libflac7 installed right?07:06
ryanblackno, really al is not that bad... just poor infrastructure.... and a few lame people..07:06
ryanblackbeautiful settings though..07:06
karljpnot enough rock for me :)07:06
nickrudseeker_, my mike is dead so I haven't tried recording under ubuntu, sorry I don't have any better suggestions :)07:06
ryanblackyou clime/boulder?07:06
ryanblack*climb..07:06
karljpyeah07:06
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ryanblackcool07:06
karljpwest is best baby!07:06
ryanblackhorse pens 40....07:06
ryanblacknorth of birmingham - awesome rocks07:06
cobblunitik: yes, libflac7 is installed07:07
karljpyeah, I've heard about it07:07
seeker_thing is , I can hear myself through the speakers, but the volum monitor dosn't show anything07:07
moritz_I just need water and snow...07:07
karljpall the guys camped at the red were talking about it07:07
moritz_boarding is something I'd die for...07:07
karljpI need snow in the winter, but not where I live.07:07
ryanblackI used to live closer to it in a small town called ashville07:07
karljpnorthern california was good for that, nice and warm, snow a short drive away for boarding, and lots and lots of rock to climb on.07:07
moritz_dinner time...07:07
ryanblackI want to move north to be in a higher tech area...07:07
karljppity it was in america07:07
ryanblackI am tired of slow expensive "broadband" here..07:08
ryanblackheh07:08
karljplovely country though07:08
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ryanblackso you would prefer to live elsewhere..?07:08
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karljpI do live elsewhere :)07:08
ryanblackwhat about taxes etc07:08
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karljpwhat about taxes?07:08
ryanblackwhere are you again?07:08
karljpI don't think taxes are really something that makes a great deal of difference at the end of the day.07:08
lunitikryanblack: why the quotes? broadband is a type of signal... has nothing to do with the speed... its broadband even if you are only getting like 4kb/s out of it  :/07:09
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mikeco they do when you pay 32%07:09
ryanblackwell if you are in a country where they tax the hell out of you...07:09
karljpif you stop thinking of it as money that is being taken form you, and just as money that you never have07:09
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karljpit's take home pay, and purchasing power that matter07:09
karljpIf I live somewhere with 80% tax, and my take home is more, I don't care what the tax rate is.07:09
mikecoless tax means more take home pay, and purchasing power.07:09
AmaranthI was told I'd get moderator access to my sub-forum on the forums and after two weeks I still don't have it.07:09
ryanblacklunitik: in the sense I meant I think it made sense ;-)07:09
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karljpno, taxes and wages are independent07:09
Amaranthlunitik: EEEK! CLOWN!07:10
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karljpif wages are fixed, then lower taxes mean more take home sure.07:10
ryanblackanything besides ppp dialup = broadband here..07:10
mikecoexcept that they're not07:10
JimbobThere is #politics, guys :-)07:10
lunitikAmaranth: Clowns are scary... but they apparently cheer some people up  :o07:10
karljpthey're not fixed either though mikeco07:10
lunitikAmaranth: I think I've seen Killer Klowns too many times or something  :P07:10
Amaranthlunitik: Until they pull out a knife and stab you.07:10
mikecolook, i don't care the reason, or the country, it's not right for me to pay 32% of my income to tax.07:10
Amaranthbtw, I have a co-developer for the menu editor now07:11
ryanblackhahah07:11
Amaranthso maybe it'll get released :)07:11
karljphow much should you pay?07:11
karljp0?07:11
mikecoespecially when it's spent on lying politicians07:11
ryanblackmikeco:  agreed07:11
ryanblackI am 15% bracket...07:11
ryanblackbut I am poor ass hahahha07:11
karljpand then just have use charges for everything?07:11
mikeco10% across the board.07:11
mikecoit works.07:11
ryanblackgotta love having 2 dependants...07:11
ryanblackI think a flat tax rate is fair...07:11
ryanblackbut it would mean the poor had to pay more07:11
mikecoit works fiscally07:11
lunitikmikeco: things related to politics in any way should not be discussed in public07:11
karljpyes they should07:12
ryanblackbecause 10% across the board wouldn't be enough money07:12
karljpyou can't pretend it doesn't exist lunitik07:12
mikecoryan.07:12
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ryanblackyes?07:12
mikeco10% of a large number is a large number.07:12
karljpryan: depends what services you think govt should provide :)07:12
ryanblackI understand07:12
karljpit might be enough, it might not be :)07:12
lunitikkarljp: no... because everyone involved sees it their way... no one will agree... and it usually ends up bad07:12
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mikecoyou wouldn't pay tax unless you made enough07:12
lunitikSimular to religion07:12
ryanblackbut they're (the middleclass and rich) are currently taxed much more07:12
karljpwhether it ends up bad depends on the people involved07:12
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ryanblackthey'd love flat 10%07:12
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karljpI don't think we've got anywhere bad here yet :)07:13
ryanblackah07:13
ryanblackwell it's sort of like that now07:13
mikecoand if the top 20% wage earners paid 10%, that would be more than enough\07:13
karljpand just because it "could" end up bad doens't mean you should never ever talk about it.07:13
ryanblackI don't make near enough as I "should" by govt standards07:13
mikecobeing that only the top 5% pay the most now, in the states07:13
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mikecoryan, in that case, you most likely wouldn't pay tax07:13
ryanblackI love EIC hahahaha07:13
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karljpmike: if you could actually make everyone actually pay their tax, it would probably work :)07:13
flyingsquirrel54ringmauer: you still there?07:13
lunitikkarljp: sure it does... there is no point discussing someone when there is no chance of a result coming from the discussion...07:13
ryanblackI got all my fed and 80% state back plus a, man I love democrats, credit07:14
karljpthere is a chance.07:14
mikecothe numbers figure out to be wage earners making 105,760. and change a year07:14
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karljpif there's no chance, why not just have dictators,07:14
ryanblacklunitik:  to hear others opinions and for intellectual stimulation07:14
karljpcos it doesn't matter,07:14
mikecoryanblack, dems didn't do that for ya07:14
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ryanblackmikeco: how so.. the party seems tied to all the social service stuff etc..?07:15
mikecoseems. you said it not me07:15
sic|workmorning, has anyone gotten internet explorer to run in wine on ubuntu?  I know I know IE sucks...but I have to have it for work for our timesheet software07:15
ryanblacksic|work: hahaa IE on *nix haahaha07:15
lunitikkarljp: *shrug* we basically are a dictatorship in the US... nothing really is decided in public, all in the House, or directly by the president  :/07:15
ryanblackah geeze...07:15
mikecohowever, they block most changes to the irs tax laws that would benefit you.07:15
nickrudmikeco, earned income credit started under carter in the 70's07:15
mikecoin the 15% tax bracket07:15
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sic|workryanblack...hehehe I know...stinks07:15
a_peckhow come evolution doesn't let me import csv contact files? and that gmail won't let me export contacts! they're mine!07:15
ryanblacksic|work: I am truly and deeply sorry...07:16
a_peckdo you know I could convert a cvs file to vcard format?07:16
lunitiksic|work: www.codeweavers.com07:16
mikecoryanblack, i don't think you should be paying tax.07:16
ryanblackI spend a lot of time putting firefox on xp boxes that I run across after people buy a mac from me..07:16
karljpsic: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=ie607:16
ryanblackmikeco: I'll write you in for pres07:16
ryanblack:-D07:16
mikecohaha07:16
mikecoseriously.07:16
ryanblack"mikeco" and an ip addy for pres07:17
ryanblackhahahah07:17
sic|workkarljp, thanks but frankscorner procedure wont' work in ubuntu for some odd reason07:17
mikecothe tax you pay, and anyone else not paying over 27% doesn't affect the economy on a grand scale07:17
karljpahh, sorry, not tried it myself ;)07:17
mikecoas i stated , 10% of a lot is a lot. 10% of a little is a litte07:17
mikecolittle, sorry07:17
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ryanblacktrue07:17
karljpmike: so what you really need is the rich people to actually pay their taxes, instead of using a portion of their money to "protect" it07:18
ryanblackbut then what is the incentive to earn more and better yourself when it is so sweet to be poorass07:18
ryanblacklike me07:18
ryanblack:-D07:18
mikecokarljp, they do pay it. and pay plenty07:18
karljpso what's the problem?07:18
mikecokarljp, you're not listening. i'm saying the majority need not pay tax07:18
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karljpok.07:19
mikecoit's the minority and top wage earners that do07:19
mikecoand they make more than enough, and could pay only 10% and it works fiscally07:19
karljpso imagine your take home pay was identical07:19
mikecocompletely, with no deficit07:19
karljponly you were being taxed 10%, instead of 30%07:19
karljpyou'd be happier?07:19
mikecotake home would not be static.07:19
mikecowho the hell said that07:19
lunitikmikeco: that could never work... and it is hardly fair... just because they do well in life, they get raped for it?07:19
ryanblackI would tell my boss to pay me $1 below the cutoff07:19
ryanblackand take the rest of compensation as benefits like insurance etc..07:20
ryanblackhahaha07:20
nickrudmikeco, you hit the nail on the head, taxes are too hard on the wage earners, and too easy on the interest earners07:20
mikecolunitik, uh, 10% is far less than 32%07:20
karljpall I'm saying is that the actual number of the tax isn't as relevant, you just need to stop thinking of gross pay as your money :)07:20
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lunitikmikeco: with only the top money earners paying that? they wouldn't have the money to pay cops and politicians etc  :/07:20
Nomikosrecommended channels for questions about shell?07:20
mikecolunitik, i'd rather be raped at 10% than 3207:20
mikecolunitik, do you understand what a top wage earner is07:21
karljpin theory here :)07:21
mikecothat goes all the way up to the billions07:21
karljpif you're talking in this channel,07:21
nickrudNomikos, everyone's bored here, ask way :)07:21
karljp99% sure, it's not you07:21
Nomikoshaving issues with backspace/delete working differently in bash and nano..07:21
spo0nmanhmm, i have this in .ssh/config LocalForward 8090 cvs.server.address:22 .... i make the connection to the server ... now how do i do a cvs co?07:21
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karljpspeaking of actual problems,07:22
karljphas anyone built a clean 2.6.11 kernel?07:22
mikecoerm, bbiab, changing kernel07:22
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nickrudNomikos, mine work the same07:22
lunitikmikeco: still hardly enough... to pay for schools, road repairs, taxes go to a lot of things... it is high for a reason07:22
karljpthe linux-source-2.6.11 package from ubuntu doens't build out of the box07:22
karljpdvb error.07:22
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AmaranthIt shouldn't be used, either.07:22
Nomikosboth backspace and delete work ok in nano directly, but when I ssh in from another box and work in nano, only delete works, and backspace forward-deletes as well07:22
ryanblackMOOAHAHAHA tiger just came in WOOOOHOOO07:23
AmaranthIt isn't 2.6.11, it's a snapshot of the kernel BK tree just before the 2.6.11 release.07:23
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karljpahh.07:23
karljpthat might explain my problems with it.07:23
karljpit just looks like 2.6.11 then?07:23
karljpthat suckz0rs07:23
sandyeggoboyneed webcam installation help07:24
Amaranth2.6.11 wasn't ready when hoary froze07:24
Nomikosdid that make sense? :)07:24
karljpso that's 2.6.10 in hoary, that's fine.07:24
AmaranthThis is why the "2.6.11" kernel is in universe. :)07:24
karljpbut is the apt-get package for 2.6.11 safe to use?07:24
sandyeggoboyIts a little red rimmed thing that has "BTC" printed on it07:25
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AmaranthDo _NOT_ use the 2.6.11 in universe unless it has some driver you desperately need that wasn't in 2.6.10.07:25
karljpgood to know.07:25
karljpcos it doesn't work :)07:25
nickrudNomikos, yeah, It's a configuration difference on the machine you're ssh'ing in from, compare the07:25
karljpI actually need a driver in the -ac patch,07:25
Levande1Is there no way to configure my ubuntuforums account to send me an email every time somebody has posted on a thread I've posted on?07:25
karljpbut I'll try porting it to 2.6.10 instead of 2.6.11 then07:25
AmaranthAnd if you do use it, you need to boot with noinotify otherwise it'll freeze completely when GNOME starts.07:26
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karljpthat's what it did :)07:26
nickrudprofile & bashrc 's, you'll find something about swapping backspace and delete07:26
Amaranthkarljp: You're a good candidate for using it then.07:26
karljpI am?07:26
karljpI don't want to be.07:26
AmaranthJust edit grub's conf file so it boots with noinotify.07:26
nickrudIt's been a while since I looked at it, so I don't remember exactly07:26
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nickrudtry googling swap backspace delete07:27
AmaranthHehe, you need a driver from 2.6.11 that wasn't in 2.6.10.07:27
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Nomikosnickrud: I'll look at those; in the ssh shell they both work fine though, only when i start nano it fails07:27
Tomcat_Ubuntu's xscreensaver *sometimes* doesn't ask for a password when resuming from suspend-to-disk/RAM. Any ideas? I have checked the ACPI scripts, but I can't detect the error...07:27
karljpno, it's not in 2.6.11 either yet :)07:27
AmaranthAh.07:27
karljpit's only in the 2.6.11-ac07:27
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karljpand I was trying to port it into my personal 2.6.1107:27
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karljpwhat does inotify do?07:27
Nomikosnickrud: but I'll look into those files first, thanks :-)07:27
Seveasit b0rks your system karljp ;)07:27
Amaranthkarljp: http://www.edoceo.com/creo/inotify/07:27
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Amaranthkarljp: Actually, http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml/inotify/README is a better read.07:28
ifrHI, all, trying to find a way to restart the net interfaces ; when I switch wifi nets eth0 can't seem to cope and I'd like to unload and restart all the drivers. I tried /etc/init.d/networking restart (noluck) and ifdown eth0 no luck any others?07:28
ifrSorry, ubuntu 5.0407:28
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Amaranthifr: http://people.ubuntu.com/~thom/network-manager/07:29
Levande1Is there no way to set up my ubuntuforums account to send me an email every time somebody posts on a thread I've participated in?07:30
ifrThanks amaranth07:30
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karljpso I just add noinotify to the end of this line...07:30
karljpkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11delkin root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash07:30
AmaranthLevande1: Subscribe to that thread. You can change your settings to auto-subscribe to ones you've posted in.07:30
pontanyone had any experiance with IP version 607:30
Amaranthkarljp: yeah07:30
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pontI wish to use ping6 to ping myself but i can't seem to figure out how to pass it the IP07:31
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pontIfconfig outputs the following  inet6 addr: fe80::20a:95ff:feac:1778/64 Scope:Link07:31
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Amaranthpont: Your local IPv6 address is ::1. This is like IPv4's 127.0.0.107:31
Amaranthpont: That's ::1 without a period. :)07:32
pontAmaranth, Yea, but i wanna figure out how to ping like eth007:32
karljpamaranth: excellent, time to reboot again and see if that atually works,  then I can try and debug my driver patch hackery07:32
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Levande1Amaranth: don't see any settings in my ubuntuforums User CP to auto-subscribe to threads I've participated in.07:32
Amaranthpont: No clue.07:33
pontAmaranth, hmm07:33
pontAmaranth, O well07:33
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Levande1Amaranth: I would think it would be under "Edit Options", but don't see anything there.07:33
ponttricky07:33
AmaranthLevande1: I have no idea where I turned that feature on at.07:34
pontAmaranth,  got it working :)07:34
klaymwww.savetoby.com <- please help save toby :/07:34
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Levande1Amaranth: okay, thanks for your help, finally found it, it was under "Edit Options"07:34
pont ping6 -I eth0 fe80::20a:95ff:feac:1778 (didn't like the fact i didn't specify the interface07:35
nickrudpont, try googling ip6 ping howto07:35
AmaranthLevande1: It was?07:35
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pontnickrud, got it working :007:35
pont:)07:35
Levande1In the 2nd box, 2nd option07:35
Amaranthah07:36
Amaranthkinda doesn't explain what it is07:36
nickrud:)07:36
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Nomikosnickrud: found it, thanks for the hint :)07:36
Levande1Amaranth: 2nd box, 2nd option under "Edit Options" in left side navigation bar07:36
nickrudNomikos, what was it?07:36
AmaranthLevande1: I found that, I was commenting on the title of that option.07:36
bur[n] ercan anyone recommend a good apache access.log report generator?07:37
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Nomikosnickrud: running OS X terminal, there's a windows settings prefs box, checked "Delete key sends backspace"07:37
pontetherreal isn't picking up my ping tho07:37
Nomikosnickrud: appearantly that means "backspace sends backspace" in my case :-)07:37
nickrudosx, no wonder :)07:38
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Nomikoshey, nothing wrong with osx :D07:38
Levande1Amaranth: yeah, the description is to long, everybody scans the web, doesn't stop to read long blurb like that about a configuration setting, I think should be shorter.07:38
mattgirvHmm, I have installed drivers following the guide for hoary (from the forums) but it is still Mesa accelerated :(07:38
nickrudwell, if someone gave me a powerbook, I'd probably dual boot it ;)07:39
AmaranthLevande1: I'll sick mpt on it. ;)07:39
Nomikosmakes sense07:39
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nickrudactually, I'm thinking about the hp nx6110, hp says they're going to make ubuntu work out of the box with all the hardware07:40
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Ateneahi07:40
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Manelhola07:40
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Manelalguno me puede ayudar en la instalacion de ubunto07:41
nickrudManel, espana -> #ubuntu-es07:41
Manelokis07:41
Manelgracias07:42
nickrudde nada07:42
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necrojazHi everyone.07:42
necrojazAnyone here use rdesktop w/ their ubuntu?07:42
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mattgirvhmm07:43
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necrojazI've used it on other distro's before, I'm having this real weird problem where L's are being displayed backwards heh.  The display of eveyrthing else is fine though... weird.  couldnt find anything on google and am wondering if its a common problem.07:44
darksatanicnecrojaz: I've seen that on other systems.07:44
darksatanicIt happens on Windows, too.07:44
necrojazdarksatanic: any clue what causes it?07:45
darksatanicBug in the protocol maybe?07:45
darksatanicNo idea.07:45
darksatanicI just live with it. It's not fatal.07:45
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necrojazmaybe itll be fixed in the next release07:46
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mattgirvCan anyone help me with getting my ATI acceleration working?07:48
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Burgundaviamattgirv, have you read through www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo07:48
mattgirvyes07:49
Burgundaviawhere are you stuck?>07:49
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mattgirvwell i have done all the things i should, but it is still Mesa07:49
Levande1Anybody have an opinion on the best dyndns client available in hoary?07:49
Burgundaviamattgirv, do you have an nforce2 boar?07:49
mattgirvyes,07:49
mattgirvbut this hasnt been a problem before, (the card isnt onboard either)07:50
Burgundaviamattgirv, did you see the thing about those boards?07:50
mattgirvno?07:50
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FlyingSquirrel32I know ubuntu is great for desktop and especially laptop, but how does it fare as a server?07:50
Burgundaviamattgirv, add Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" to your device section07:50
Burgundaviashould work07:50
BurgundaviaFlyingSquirrel32, it is debian at the core07:50
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mattgirvits already there and set as no07:51
Burgundaviamattgirv, reboot07:51
mattgirvcompletely?07:51
Burgundaviayes07:51
paulfoxhi all. does anyone know how to set up a wireless ad-hoc network? I've added wlan0 on my networked laptop, but the windows xp laptop can't see it07:51
mattgirvok brb07:51
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mattgirvThanks Burgundavia :)07:54
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paulfoxis it possible to connect two laptops via their wireless cards? i dont see how i can set up ubuntu to let my windows laptop use it to connect to the internet07:54
Burgundaviamattgirv, did that get it?07:54
mattgirvbtw does anyone here have the ubuntusetup.sh script?07:54
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mattgirvBurgundavia, yup :)07:54
Burgundaviamattgirv, I wouldn't use it07:54
mattgirvwhy?07:54
mattgirvit has lots of good feedback07:54
Burgundavianever ever trust a script someone else has written07:54
Burgundaviaand one size doesn't fit all07:55
mattgirvhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264607:55
BurgundaviaI have seen it07:55
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Burgundaviamattgirv, do you need all of those things?07:55
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mattgirvpretty much yeah07:55
mattgirvi thought it would save 5 or 10 minutes :p07:55
Burgundaviabuild-essential?07:55
mattgirvyup defo07:55
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Burgundaviaok07:56
BurgundaviaI prefer to do things by hand07:56
Burgundaviathen I know what is happening07:56
mattgirvi dont see why build-essential isnt installed as default anyway07:56
Burgundaviamattgirv, becuase most people don't use it07:56
mattgirv:O07:56
paulfoxso it's not possible then?07:56
AmaranthHaving gcc on a system is a security issue.07:56
Burgundaviaindeed07:56
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Burgundaviaa fairly large one07:56
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AmaranthAnd it's not possible to fit all that stuff on the install CD.07:56
mattgirvhmm07:57
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Burgundaviaubuntu is not aimed at us anyway07:57
mattgirvin that case, so is having synaptic a security risk07:57
Burgundaviait is aimed at mom and dad07:57
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Burgundaviafor the default install07:57
nubbeif u need gcc, i guess u can install it, right???07:57
Burgundaviabecause, if you need to compile something, you can get it07:57
fsapohi there.. anyone here could help me with some dvd stuff? i just bought a dvd burner and i m a little lost07:57
Dave2|LaptopI'm not quite sure how having gcc is a security issue07:57
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Vorikhi!07:58
Burgundaviafsapo, should just burn ala a cd burner07:58
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mattgirvyeah well only if you didnt know how permissions worked maybe it would be07:58
Amaranthmattgirv: If you have gcc installed and someone get's access to a non-previleged user account they can compile and run a privilege escalation program.07:58
Burgundaviafsapo, for playback read www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:58
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fsapoBurgundavia, no.. playback is fine07:58
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fsapoBurgundavia, i want to make some "backups" :)07:58
Dave2|LaptopAmaranth, or they can compile it elsewhere, and copy it on manually?07:59
fsapoBurgundavia, and if possible convert some xvid and divx movies to dvd07:59
Dave2|LaptopOr they can get GCC binaries?07:59
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AmaranthDave2|Laptop: No guarantee it'll run.07:59
Burgundaviafsapo, there are ways, I don't know how mature07:59
k4rlanyone know why ndiswrapper would fail when I move from 2.6.10 to 2.6.11?07:59
fsapoBurgundavia, i m trying to install some dvd tools but it says "depends on transconder"07:59
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AmaranthDave2|Laptop: You might have a different version of a library that they used.07:59
P2OGdvd::rip08:00
P2OG?08:00
nubbeI want mirc, buuhuhuuhhhh08:00
Burgundaviafsapo, have you enabled multi/universe?08:00
nubbeseriously08:00
k4rlamaranth: noinotify was definitely the key, but ndiswrapper complains about version problems...08:00
Dave2|LaptopIn which case you can check versions and make your build env the same08:00
k4rlndiswrapper: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module08:00
fsapoBurgundavia, i think so.. let me see08:00
Amaranthnubbe: Why do you want that piece of crap? :)08:00
Dave2|LaptopIf someone's going to be using exploit code, having gcc installed isn't really too much of an enabler08:00
Amaranthk4rl: Never used it.08:00
k4rlfair enough08:00
k4rlanyone else know what you need to do when you change kernels?08:00
BurgundaviaDave2|Laptop, security is holistic. Every step you can take to mitigate the danger is going to help08:01
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k4rldo I need to rebuild ndiswrapper itself or something?08:01
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AmaranthDave2|Laptop: It's an enabler though. That'd be like saying there is no point in locking your door because someone can get it through the window.08:01
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Burgundaviak4rl, , nope, should work08:01
nubbebecause it's got prefs that u can get to, and no fucked up windows popping up left and rigt ( like file receive list)08:01
Dave2|LaptopBurgundavia, I just can't see the existance of GCC having much impact08:01
sono_P2OG, have you checked the "transcoder" options?08:01
fsapoBurgundavia, yes its enabled but it cant find the transcoder dependencies08:01
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muntzOi lads.08:01
BurgundaviaDave2|Laptop, because every program is a security risk, and gcc is fairly big one and is not neccessary for most deskop installs08:01
fsapoBurgundavia, transcode*08:01
Amaranthfsapo: There is a libvorbis version conflict that causes transcoder to be uninstallable.08:01
k4rlburgundavia: doh!08:01
Amarantherr, transcode08:01
k4rlguess it's something with 2.6.11 being quirky for ubuntu then.08:02
sono_I am just compiling transcoder fsapo08:02
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k4rlor perhaps that it expected inotify, whicih has been turned off!08:02
Burgundaviafsapo, might only be in marilliat08:02
muntzMplayer said, "Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts."08:02
nubbeAmaranth, u have to grab the mouse and click because they got no assigned keys to accept, for example08:02
sono_I am solvint the dependency problem this way fsapo:08:02
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muntzWhat script would be best?08:02
Amaranthnubbe: To accept what?08:02
muntzmake an rc.local ?08:02
Amaranthnubbe: Who has no assigned keys?08:02
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nubbeAmaranth, just an example, dcc08:03
sono_Its not the best way, but I hope it works: right now, I am compiling Mplayer; it will create the missing .so's08:03
Amaranthnubbe: Ah, I don't use dcc.08:03
Amaranthnubbe: DCC is worthless most of the time unless you're doing illegal things.08:03
fsaposono_, how?08:03
Amaranthfsapo: That's a bad way, let me find the fix.08:03
muntzThe whole "lack of working movie player" is what I'd call a show stopper.08:04
nubbeAmaranth, no place like irc to get musicvids, and that may be illageal but I don't feel too guilty08:04
sono_as I said, fsapo, I am right now, compiling mplayer08:04
muntzWhy the great faith in totem, I wonder.08:04
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sono_that will end up with the missing .so's fsapo08:04
nickrudmuntz, if you want to add an rc.local, use the /etc/init.d/skeleton as a template, and use update-rc.d to create links08:05
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sono_after that, I am planning to compile transcoder, with the correspondent dependencies08:05
fsaposono_, its requiring some packages to install but i cant find it in the repositories =/08:05
Amaranthfsapo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129617&postcount=508:05
nubbeAmaranth, that wasn't the point tho, the prefs in x-chat is so barebones it's almost useless, i don't doubt u can change it exactly like u want it, but I can't08:05
k4rland the source says yes! ndiswrapper uses inotify, so no ndiswrapper on 2.6.11 from ubuntu08:05
mattgirvWhat was that rewrite of the X-Chat frontend08:05
mattgirvwhich was GTK2 based.08:06
fsapoAmaranth, let me see...08:06
sono_I have tried like 4 different reps fsapo, without finding a neat deb package for Hoary, with those  dependencies08:06
Amaranthbrb08:06
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fsaposono_, =[08:06
ponthey is there anyway i can make it so synaptic dosn't ask for the cd's08:06
JoKeR``Hi08:06
sono_so no I quit the binary's search, and ended up compiling it from scrach fsapo08:06
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mattgirvpont: remove the repository that says Ubuntu Hoary 5.04 CD08:06
fsaposono_, i just want some tools to copy dvds and convert xvid to dvd08:06
SeamusLPpont:  Remove those sources from your repositories08:06
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mattgirvor something like that08:07
nickrudpont, comment out the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list08:07
sono_fsapo: im not pretty sure my method will work now though...08:07
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drcodedd2hi all08:07
pontok08:07
drcodedd2whats iup08:07
drcodedd2u08:07
drcodedd2Any one u08:07
drcodedd2p08:07
drcodedd2up08:07
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drcodedd2I need some help with ubnto08:07
sono_fsapo: you are at the right path friend... transcoder's or mencoder's solutions are the best for that08:07
SeamusLPpont:  The easiest way to do this is probably in synaptic, just remove the cdrom repository under settings -> repositories08:07
drcodedd21. can I install only console mode without gnome?08:07
sono_fsapo: the problem is that Hoary has never had any kind of installable package for those08:07
Amaranthsorry, was testing something08:07
thenukedrcodedd2: sure.08:08
Jurkumattgirv: maybe http://xchat-gnome.navi.cx ?08:08
nickrud1. server mode install08:08
sono_I always compile mplayer/mencoder since Warty08:08
Amaranthdrcodedd2: At the install prompt where you normally just hit enter type in "server" and hit enter.08:08
drcodedd2I can chose server mode install08:08
drcodedd2k08:08
fsapoAmaranth, thanx for that link.. i ll try doing it08:08
pontSeamusLP, Sounds user frendly08:08
moritz_where are the amd64 ubuntu sources?08:08
fsaposono_, thanx.. i ll try installing some stuff i dont want to install windows here just to burn dvds.. windows sux08:08
Amaranthmoritz_: apt-get source <package>08:08
SeamusLPAmaranth:  go1dfish has a test in 30 minutes, he hasn't been to class since the last test, he hasn't studied, and he's currently asleep.  I blame you guys :P08:08
moritz_Amaranth, nah - the packages for amd64?08:09
AmaranthSeamusLP: lmao08:09
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Amaranthmoritz_: source for amd64 packages is the same as source for x86 and ppc packages.08:09
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wildfire6Am using Hoary on a Mac PowerBook. After install all is working fine but it is not finding the wireless LAN connection to the net, whereas on the previous OS release it did so automatically. What must I do?08:10
AmaranthSeamusLP: I'll ban him from #pymusique if he fails. :D08:10
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WeirdAlGuys! Anyone know about support for a ... er... "Hauppauge WinTV Primio FM"?08:10
WeirdAlIt's not mine so I'm all wtf here.08:10
AmaranthWeirdAl: Never heard of it.08:10
moritz_Amaranth, I ment the sources.list...08:10
WeirdAlo08:10
pontanything I need to configure to start ssh ?08:10
SeamusLPAmaranth:  Heh he won't, it's just a trivial 100 level astronomy class.08:10
Amaranthmoritz_: Same thing.08:10
moritz_k08:10
WeirdAlI've discovered that WinTV doesn't work and WinTV Express does with tweaking.08:10
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pontroot@cafebabe:/home/pont/NPS Assignment # /etc/init.d/ssh start08:11
pont * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 08:11
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Zenhey everyone?08:12
WeirdAlIT's his. Tell him!08:12
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pontso should sshd just work when i install it ?08:13
Zenyes08:13
WeirdAlZen I've had one "Never heard of it" and no one else knows...08:13
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WeirdAlI think you should not buy obscure hardware ever again.08:13
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Insomhi all08:13
Zendamn it08:13
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Zentis a shame08:13
Amaranthpont: Check /var/log/messages and /var/log/sshd (if it exists, probably won't)08:13
Insomcan anyone recomend me some kind of file manager similar to gentoo but easier to use?08:13
muntzgentoo is a file manager?08:14
PacoBCNInsome, sure you checked the browser mode of Nautilus?08:14
Insomisn't it?08:14
Insomnautilus sucks08:14
nubbeHow do I turn off quit/join msges in x-chat?08:14
PacoBCNInsom, sorry?08:14
muntzGentoo is a Linux.08:14
icebalmInsom: nautilus does not suck08:14
drcodedd2after I install wine and install ms software, It seems that wine dosnt make shourtcut in GNOME , any idea why?08:14
Insomim looking for something total commander kind of thing08:14
AmaranthGentoo is a filemanager too08:14
chazwurthmuntz: There's also a file manager named Gentoo.08:14
chazwurthmuntz: Unrelated as far as I know.08:14
icebalmmuntz: gentoo is a linux distribution08:14
PacoBCNInsom, first, Gentoo is a Distribution, second Nautilus doesn't suck08:14
maximausInsom: I LOVE emelfm--it's a commander type thing.08:15
muntzThat's just wrong. Morally.08:15
WeirdAlZen, mio suggesto thato youo (sorry) ask again later on in case other people turn up who know08:15
maximausapt-gettable and pretty small08:15
Insomtnx max08:15
wildfire6Am using Hoary on a Mac PowerBook. After install all is working fine but it is not finding the wireless LAN connection to the net, whereas on the previous OS release it did so automatically. What must I do?08:15
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nickrudInsom, have you ever looked at midnight commander? (mc)08:16
Insomi have08:16
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maximausPacoBCN, Gentoo is a file manager as well: http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/08:16
Insomnick, just got some trouble trying to get it up and running08:17
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cao30i keep getting a gnome-panel crash everytime I launch the "run application" dialog, any help?08:17
nickrudInsom, I kinda came late into this, get what up and running?08:17
Insommidnight commander08:17
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nickrudoh :)08:17
k-dogCan ubuntu sources be referenced as ftp:// ?08:17
WeirdAlyes08:18
k-dogWeirdAl: Thanks.08:18
WeirdAl:-)08:18
maximausInsom, why not just try something similar, like gnome-commander, emelfm, gentoo, et. all...08:18
Insomemelfm looks interesting08:18
cyphasecao30: don't launch the "run application" dialog08:18
cyphasecao30: ;)08:18
Insomgentoo is to complicated for me to work with... all those buttons... bah08:18
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Insomi just downloaded emelfm and it looks promissing08:19
cao30cyphase: sure, i just installed mini-commander ;-)08:19
ZenOne last check.. Nobody know if WinTV Primio Fm works on linux?08:19
maximausInsom, honestly the thing that sold me on emelfm are the buttons in the middle--dumb maybe, but makes it easier for me, a total screw-up. LoL08:19
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wildfire6In Gnome what section deals with the internet connectivity? I am unable to make a connection to my broadband LAN from Ubuntu. thx08:19
chazwurthZen: I've never even heard of it, sorry :) Does google yield anything?08:19
cao30system->administration->networking08:19
Insommaximus.. it looks easy to use08:19
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k4rlwhat's the easiest way of confirming tha tI don't have an ISA bus?08:20
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oscarhevening!08:20
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muntztotem is an absolute disaster08:20
Amaranthwildfire6: System->Administration->Networking08:20
oscarhgood even :)08:20
k4rlI've got a laptop, andit's modern, is it safe to assume that it simply doesn't have an isa bus, not even some secret internal one?08:20
Amarantherr, someone beat me to it08:20
ztonzyoscarh, hey...there's a swedish channel too :)08:20
Amaranththe join flood confused me08:20
Insomon win i use just total commander and nothing else.. so i deperatly need something simmilar on my ubuntu08:20
ztonzyoscarh, #ubuntu.se08:20
tup34help me08:20
cao30Insom: isn't "Midnight Commander" enough?08:20
mikecok4rl, it probably has one, put there by mi608:20
oscarhztonzy, u dont like me here? :P08:20
Insomcao.. not realz08:21
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Insomz = y08:21
cao30Insom: try "Krusader", if you're running a KDEified ubuntu08:21
ztonzyoscarh, of course...just a tip :) would use some more users in there ;)08:21
oscarhso u r there :)08:21
ztonzywe could*08:21
oscarhi see08:21
maximauscao30, I was just about to mention that too, used to love it when I used KDE08:21
WeirdAlZen, I think you should go for a long Google wossname and if you still can't find anything it's a fair bet it doesn't.08:21
Insomcao.. im runnin gnome08:21
Amaranthmuntz: What's wrong with totem?08:21
maximauskrusader is a good ftp client too.08:21
Manelbye08:21
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wildfire6Amaranth: So I would add access to my wireless LAN there or is there a way it can auto-find it? I'm confused because with the previous release of Ubuntu it automatically found my connection.08:22
tup34cant logon to cups, any ideas08:22
Insommax, is it?08:22
cao30Insom: mmmm... if you don't mind getting the whole KDE shebang, you can run  'krusader' on top  of gnome too08:22
Insomi need something like that!08:22
WeirdAlI think I might email Hauppauge and ask them what they're playing at with this silly idea of creating drivers for the most widespread and noob-friendly OS ever.08:22
oscarhztonzy "bookmarked"08:22
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ztonzyoscarh, ;)08:22
Amaranthwildfire6: No clue, I don't have a wireless network.08:22
oscarhthis place is getting crowded!08:22
Echylolel08:22
Insomi use to love that ftp managin option on total commander08:22
maximauscao30, you don't have to get all of KDE to install it. Around 30mb I think (wild guess)08:22
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Echylothey should make #ubuntu-noob & #ubuntu-advanced , I'll go to the noob channel :p08:23
maximausworth getting the libs anyway, and then you can use stuff like K3b. :)08:23
Insommax.. to much to download on dile up...08:23
maximausI'm on dail up too, just do big d/l's at night.08:23
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nickrudInsom, do you have access to a network that's fast (windows doesn't matter)08:23
_ningoyep08:23
_ningoi prefer mc though08:23
_ningoInsom, you tried lfm already?08:23
Insomnickurd... nope... :(08:24
Insomlfm?08:24
tup34root password does not work on kde or gnome admin gui's08:24
nickrudInsom, no friends, nobody :)08:24
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tup34any ideas08:24
tup34anyone08:24
k4rlhow can I work out exactly what sound card module I need?08:24
Amaranthtup34: There is no root, use your user password.08:24
Insomi could leach someones brad band, why?08:24
k4rlI've got sound working, and am building a new kernel, and I don't want to build modules for every card under the sun08:24
nickrudinstall apt-zip08:24
Insomnickrud, i could leach someones broad band, why?08:24
tup34ok will give it a go08:24
SabatorDoes anyone know where I can get a .deb of CVS Cedega?08:25
nickrudapt-zip will be your best friend :)08:25
dr_willisk40z,  find what card ya got. or what modules are loaded now when the thing is working. and/or check alsa's homepage08:25
Insomnickrud, apt-zip? what's it for?08:25
PacoBCNSabator, in amule you can even get the non free version08:25
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Insomkind of new in linux comunity08:25
Sabatoramule?08:25
Moe|Joehi people08:26
Sabatorexplain this amule08:26
Moe|Joeneed help with xchat08:26
nickrudselect files on ubuntu, get a script you can run on some elses machine to download the debs, and take them back to your machine.08:26
Moe|Joewont connect to any server..08:26
nickrudworks like a charm08:26
Sabatoryou're connected to this one aren't you Moe|Joe08:26
nickrudI lived on a 3k line for a year, I couldn't have run debian without it08:26
Moe|Joeyeh throu my windows comp08:26
Sabatorkthx08:27
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Sabatortry apt-get update08:27
mikecouh08:27
Sabatorare you on Warty?08:27
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Sabatoryou might need to update Xchat if you're on warty08:27
JoKeR``I forgot to make a swap partition during the install, can i make it after the installation ?08:27
Moe|Joeyeh im on warty08:27
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Moe|Joecoz i cant get hoary to install on my laptop08:27
dr_willisyou could alwyas try some other irc clients to get help here as you work on the xchat issue.08:28
Sabatormoe|joe08:28
Moe|Joeu got the apt-get command to update my xchat?08:28
Sabatorapt-get update08:28
Sabatorthat updates all packages08:28
SabatorI think08:28
Sabatorin the meantime, Moe|Joe08:29
Sabatorget on Warty, and do apt-get install bitchx08:29
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Moe|Joebitchx commandline?08:29
Amaranthno, not bitchx08:29
Amaranthirssi08:29
Sabatorbitchx is a good terminal based IRC client08:29
SabatorI love it08:29
duressirssi is a good console irc client08:29
Moe|Joei wud prefer a GUI if possible08:29
transgressirssi08:29
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transgressksirc08:29
Sabatorerm08:29
duressfor gui i find xchat to be nice08:29
SabatorGUI08:29
tup34nope, didnt work08:29
transgressi use ksirc for a gui08:29
Sabatorokay08:30
transgressand irssi for life08:30
tup34got child process terminated08:30
Sabatoris it apt-get install ksirc?08:30
transgressummm actually ksirc is probably part of the kde package08:30
transgressheh08:30
Sabatorgg wp08:30
transgressif you don't have it you are better off with xchat08:30
Sabatorhis xchat is busted08:30
transgressoh08:30
Moe|Joehmm08:30
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Sabatorjust go with bitchx08:30
Sabatorit will work08:30
transgressyou can try kvirc08:31
transgressa lot of people like it08:31
tup34also why do i have to go through gnome to logon to cups server08:31
transgressbut it feels like mirc to me and i loathe it08:31
maltjeI need some help with totemplayer08:31
SabatorUSE TOTEMPLAYER: DO NOT08:31
transgressmaltje: whatcha need?08:31
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SabatorTOTEMPLAYER IS BAD AND EVIL08:31
Moe|Joehang on08:31
maltjeIt won't play mp3's08:31
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BurgundaviaSabator, not it is not08:31
nickrudMoe|Joe, you could try removing .xchat and apt-get install --reinstall xchat08:31
transgressSabator: you done now?08:31
maltjei wrote a lot08:32
Sabatoron the 7th day, the lord said "apt-get install mplayer"08:32
Moe|Joetink my lan wen down...08:32
Moe|Joelemme jus reboot my laptop08:32
maltjeI had  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad libdvdcss w32codecs lame totem-xine xmms08:32
tup34why does my printer not work08:32
maltjethis won't work08:33
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maltjewhere do I find gstreamer????08:33
] BreliC[yeah, but the mplayer through apt-get is crap... doesn't install mencoder and configuring and compiling it yourself is better in this case08:33
tup34why cant i logon to cups?, its driving me up the wall08:33
maltjebut I'm a newbie08:33
maltjeI don't understand compiling yet08:33
nickrudtup34, they disabled it :)08:33
nickrudgotta use the gnome print setup, or find out how to enable :63108:34
tup34how do i reinstate it?08:34
tup34i need it08:34
nickrudhaven't got around to it yet08:34
plukkietup34, adduser cupsys shadow08:34
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] BreliC[maltje, is gstreamer not in your apt-get repos?08:35
plukkiewith sudo08:35
nickrudohhhh08:35
HablandocontigoI'm having a BIOS error in my dmesg "[drm:i810_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 1294 using kernel context 0" and I can't get direct rendering for that device. What can I do?08:35
maltje???08:35
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plukkiethat will allow cupsys to read the password file so it can authenticate08:35
maltjei have installed it08:35
icebalmHablandocontigo: get a real video card?08:35
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nickrudthanks08:35
maltjewith synaptic08:35
maltjebut not the 808:36
Hablandocontigoicebalm: yeah... haha; but this one has worked and worked fine before08:36
cyklusIs there any wireless card management package in Ubuntu? ...ie somehting that will auto detect your location and connect you without having to manually use iwlist and iwconfig?08:36
Hablandocontigoicebalm: 50+ fps on q3a08:36
transgressHablandocontigo: might try custom compiling a kernel, but that video card doesn't work real well in windows... much less linux with a third party driver.08:36
tup34cheers plukkie08:36
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icebalmHablandocontigo: ouch, that's slow :/08:37
] BreliC[maltje, did you enable multiverse and universe for repositories?08:37
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nickrudmaltje, you have totem-gstreamer installed?08:37
maltjey08:37
Remenicis there a wmv plugin for gstreamer yet?08:37
nickrudand stuff don't play?08:37
Hablandocontigotransgress: Well, I have had it work on another Linux system I mean. It might be the kernel then.08:37
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nickrudI mean, a lot of stuff?08:38
maltjei need codecs08:38
Remenicand install w32codecs too08:38
transgresswhy is the ubuntulinux.org security ticket or whatever not up to date?08:38
transgressthat bothers me08:38
WeirdAlIs there a way of getting Gnome to flash panel icon things when the window has activity?08:38
nickrudlink the codecs in /usr/lib/win32 into ~/.gnome2/totem-addons08:38
maltjewhere do i find totem-xine?08:39
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WeirdAle.g. when someone IMs you and you have three IMs open and you wanna know who it was08:39
FlyingSquirrel32maltje: check out ubuntuguide.org/#codecs08:39
HulaBeagleSebhey all08:39
HulaBeagleSebi've got a usb mounting problem on ubuntu hoary hedgehog08:39
HulaBeagleSebi put a memory stick it, it mounts and goes into computer://08:39
maltjei have a go,but a lot looks like chinees for me08:39
FlyingSquirrel32maltje: That's a great site for noobs.08:39
tup34still dont work08:39
HulaBeagleSebbut it won't dismount08:39
maltjek thnx08:39
nickrudstep, by step, works08:39
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HulaBeagleSebi get this rude error:08:40
HulaBeagleSebumount :/media/usbdisk: device is busy08:40
HulaBeagleSebumount :/media/usbdisk: device is busy08:40
FLeiXiuSWeirdAl: So windows like :-P..08:40
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HulaBeagleSebError: umount failed08:40
HulaBeagleSebany idea?08:40
WeirdAlBut so handy, FLeiXiuS08:40
RemenicHulaBeagleSeb: maybe the device is busy08:40
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HulaBeagleSebit ain't08:40
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nickrudHulaBeagleSeb, lsof | grep /media/usbdisk08:40
RemenicHulaBeagleSeb: did you access it with a shell?08:40
FLeiXiuSWeirdAl: Are you using gaim?08:40
WeirdAlYep08:41
HulaBeagleSebRemenic: no08:41
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HulaBeagleSebnickrud: gam_serve  7790     spayne   66r      DIR        8,1   22016         1 /media/usbdisk08:41
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Saint33hi folks...08:41
FLeiXiuSWeirdAl: http://guifications.sourceforge.net/ thats the closests your going to get08:41
nickrudah, the dreaded gam_server08:41
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Saint33can someone help me with an ndiswrapper problem plz ?08:41
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nickrudmy usual fix is killall nautilus, and then dismount :)08:41
FLeiXiuSWeirdAl: Or you could have it mark the window with something of your choice, liek perhaps an asterisk..08:41
HulaBeagleSebnickrud: can you expand?08:42
maltjethey always talking about gstreamer0.8 but i can't find it08:42
HulaBeagleSebnickrud: tried that, didn't work08:42
nickrudgam_server is a file change monitor used by nautilus. It's how nautilus can tell if a folder has changed, and update it08:42
wezzer-have you enabled universe ?08:42
wezzer-repository08:42
maltjetry later c u08:42
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HulaBeagleSebnickrud: what causes this problem?08:43
WeirdAlFLeiXiuS, how do I do that last one?08:43
nickrudimperfect programming :)08:43
WeirdAlThe asterisk thing.08:43
HulaBeagleSebnickrud: so what can i do then?08:43
FLeiXiuSWeirdAl: It's in the plguins menu for gaim.  GAIM Notifications I believe08:43
WeirdAloo08:43
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nickrudHulaBeagleSeb, first, make sure you have no nautilus folder open to the usb, that non of your terminals are open to08:44
HulaBeagleSebo08:44
HulaBeagleSebk08:44
nickrudthe usb, and if that doesn't work, killall nautils08:44
HulaBeagleSebi only have gamin open08:44
HulaBeagleSebsorry gaim open08:44
HulaBeagleSebthen what?08:44
WeirdAlThanks FLeiXiuS! :-)08:44
nickrudkillall nautilus :)08:45
HulaBeagleSeband then?08:45
nickrudI hit alt F2, and enter it there08:45
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HulaBeagleSebnickrud: enter what?08:45
nickrud'killall nautilus'08:46
] BreliC[WeirdAl, aMSN does just what you're talking about... will flash a taskbar item when you have a new message.. http://amsn.sf.net08:46
Insomhow do i add lounchers to the applications menu?08:46
nickrudyou can then do the unmount08:46
HulaBeagleSebthen try and dismount>08:46
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Insomhow do i add lounchers to the gnome applications menu ?08:46
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AmaranthInsom: You need to edit menu entries by hand or get a menu editor.08:47
HulaBeagleSebnickrud: same error08:47
Insomamaranth: how do i do it by hand?08:47
AmaranthInsom: The only editor I know of that's even usable on hoary is mine. :) Check out http://ubuntuguide.org08:47
nickrudmore drastic, killall gam_server.08:47
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tup34according to gnome the printer is printing, but it isnt08:47
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AmaranthInsom: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html <--read that and then you can create entries by hand :)08:48
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HulaBeagleSebnickrud: it worked after the killing gam_server08:48
HulaBeagleSebnickrud: is there a fix for this?08:48
wezzer-what is gam_server btw?08:48
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nickrudnot really, and actually gam_server is better than the file change monitor they used to use, fam.08:49
Insomim sure there is an easyer way08:49
HulaBeagleSebnickrud: any ideas on a  quicker way?08:49
Insomive done it before but forgot how to08:49
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Insomsorry hula08:49
slask3nHi =) How do I connect to a computer trough Remote Desktop across internet? i am trying to help a buddy, but i get connection refused while "vncviewer <his IP>"08:50
Insomi was talking to amaranth08:50
AmaranthInsom: There was an easier way in 2.8, not in 2.1008:50
Insomi am useing 2.808:50
nickrudHulaBeagleSeb, just killall gam_server from the get go.08:50
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Tomcat_slask3n: More of a VNC question than a Java question... you need to make sure he has the port opened on his firewall/NAT.08:50
nickrudthen killall nautilus, to restart the gam_server08:50
nickrudonly way I know08:51
transgresshehe ima call up the number they gave me for my computer protection plan and see if it is still covered with linux on the box08:51
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slask3nTomcat: Java question? Last I checked this was generally about Ubuntu, or am I wrong? but anyway, what port is it? it says port 0 in the description but that dont make any sense...08:52
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Insomamaranth: how was it done on 2.8?08:52
HulaBeagleSebgamin seems to cause loads of problems08:52
Tomcat_Argh goddamit :)08:52
AmaranthInsom: By pointing nautilus to applications:///08:53
danthemandoes anyone here use an hp printer?08:53
Tomcat_slask3n: I'm so sorry... I wasn't looking at the channel tabs and thought this was #java on QuakeNet...08:53
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Insomtnx08:53
Tomcat_slask3n: But the answer is still right. Did he open the port?08:53
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HulaBeagleSebdantheman: i have two08:53
Liamhi08:53
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danthemandid you have problems with it printing slightly larger than it should, a bit fuzzy, and a little bit too low on the page under ubuntu?08:54
slask3nTomcat_: hehe, thats OK :) but he is connected directly to internet, has a dedicated IP and has no firewall.. but i get "connection refused" while trying to connect.. :s08:54
LiamCan someone tell me how I can change the date format of the desktop clock?08:54
HulaBeagleSebdantheman: on my inkjet yes, laser no08:54
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FlyingSquirrel32I just downloaded a .deb from eMule, how do I install it?08:55
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Tomcat_slask3n: Did he enable the VNC for others than localhost and stuff?08:55
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danthemanHulaBeagleSeb: i have an inkjet....did you ever manage to fix it?08:55
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HulaBeagleSebdantheman: no08:55
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nickrudFlyingSquirrel32, dpkg -i .deb08:55
danthemancurses08:55
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sigwhy08:56
nickruddantheman, what printer & driver?08:56
Tomcat_slask3n: I just checked... he only needs to enable it and set it to "allow others to use it".08:56
HulaBeagleSeb1. inotify doesn't work properly08:56
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HulaBeagleSeb2. the hp printer bug mentioned above08:56
slask3nTomcat_: I dont know where to do that.. I was thinking something in that direction also.. but in the config-thing i cant find anything about that...08:56
HulaBeagleSeb3. the opneoffice.org2 is out of dat08:56
danthemannickrud: it's an hp photosmart 1115 and i'm using the hpijs driver08:56
sigcya08:56
\SjN\hey08:57
Tomcat_slask3n: The settings are in Systems => Prefs => Remote Desktop08:57
nickruddantheman, you might want to try the gimpprint drivers, they're supposed to be better for images08:57
\SjN\what's so special about ubuntu?08:57
HulaBeagleSebi dunno08:57
serverits like debian08:57
serverthats whats special08:57
serverand it has new wizbangs08:57
danthemanwell, it's printing text that's giving me trouble, but i'll try it08:57
Tomcat_HulaBeagleSeb: It's Debian, but it "just works".08:57
danthemanhow do i get the gimp drivers?08:57
serverWIZBANGS AND DOOHICKIES08:57
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Tomcat_WOW!08:57
FlyingSquirrel32nickrud: Thanks. Is is safe to install .debs on my ubuntu machine. I got cedega.08:57
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serveri can sell anything.08:57
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serverhey tomcat, you write webapps?08:57
] BreliC[HulaBeagleSeb, no distro is perfect.. you can always install the more recent OOo yourself...08:58
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nickruddantheman, cupsys-driver-gimpprint08:58
ArcI'm having two pretty major issues with Hoary: the zip disk and a 3c509 card not being detected (after i replaced an unsupported RTL8029 card with it)08:58
Tomcat_slappy18: Yeah. Not currently though.08:58
ReblendedIf my BusID for my vid card is wrong, could this be a main cause of the GDM failing to load?08:58
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slask3nTomcat_ : I only see "Allow others to view desktop", "Allow others to control desktop", "ask for confirmation" and "ask for password" in there, all are checked...08:58
nickrudFlyingSquirrel32, yes, if you trust the source of the deb.08:58
] BreliC[HulaBeagleSeb, though I do admit i hate printer problems!  I have one of those 'unsupported' printers that I have managed to make work quite well08:58
Arccan someone help me with these problems?08:58
rayofashhiyas08:58
dagshow do you play aac-streams? i have gstreamer0.8-faad, but all i get is could not determine type of stream08:58
danthemannickrud: synaptic didn't find anything called that08:58
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danthemanand i'ts not in the list of available drivers on the properties dialog for my printer08:59
nickruddantheman, I did a quick apt-cache search, just a mo08:59
rayofashI got the 640x480 problem fixed ^^08:59
Tomcat_slask3n: When these are correctly set and there's no firewall, it should generally work... no idea then. Maybe check syslog... :I08:59
slappy18Tomcat_: do you have any good links on where to start learning on how to write basic webapps, because the goal is to write something deployable sometime..08:59
slappy18my goal.08:59
FlyingSquirrel32hmm, should I trust .debs from eMule???! :)   Thanks08:59
slappy18nah08:59
rayofashNow I am having problems with MPlayer, as there is no debian release =/08:59
Archmm, can someone please help me with my two problems?08:59
Tomcat_slappy18: Not really, sorry. When I started I just took some webapps, looked through their sources, then applied that to my programs.08:59
slappy18ahh, tnx09:00
ArcI'm doing a bulk install on donated computers for low-income black teens and am currently stuck09:00
Reblendedlspci I think, says my busid is 0:1e:0 which is in decimal: 0:30:0 could this be wrong?09:00
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slask3nTomcat_ : He uses FC3 and I use Ubuntu, both have Gnome, should this affect it in any way?09:00
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ReblendedArc, no one will commit to a problem if you don't throw some symptoms out there. =] 09:01
seanlinushi fellas09:01
ArcReblended: ok then zip disk issue first09:01
Tomcat_slask3n: Maybe FC restricts the connections... no idea where to set that.09:01
Arcmany of these systems (donated from local university) have IDE zip drives, hdd09:01
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Arccfdisk shows that zip disks use the fourth partition, hdd409:01
Archowever /dev/hdd4 doesn't exist. only /dev/hdd exists09:01
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Arcso I can't mount them09:02
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HulaBeagleSebi'll try getting gamin from cvs me thinks09:02
Reblendedcrimsun, are you on? Arc has a mounting issue09:02
ArcI added an entry to /etc/fstab for /dev/hdd4 to /media/zip0 but I can't do anything without the proper device09:02
nickruddantheman, I've got it installed, and accessible from the print dialog for the photosmart P110009:03
nickruddon't have that printer, though09:03
Reblendedarc crimsun helped me with a thumbdrive mounting issue before.. looks like he is idle tho09:03
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rayofashHow do I delete a folder? sudo shred doesnt work =/09:03
Reblendedrayofash rd?09:03
nickrudrayofash, rmdir on an empty dir09:04
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Arcbut some of these ubuntu conventions/limitations are frustrating09:04
HulaBeagleSebrayofash: rm -r /09:04
seanlinusi'm using 5.04 and i installed mysql - i'm able to login without password but i don't have the privilege09:04
Reblendedrayofash, try rm09:04
cyphasequestion: i've installed mod_python, and the apache signature confirms it, but it's not processing it09:04
cyphaseanyone know whats wrong?09:04
nickrudArc, I agree, I'm slowly removing some of the restrictions myself09:04
rayofashThanks that worked09:04
seanlinusany idea?09:04
danthemannickrud: the one i have installed is foomatic-db-gimp-print09:04
xfSxanyone in here experienced valve steam games (counterstrike source) under ubu?09:04
Reblendedgreat! ty HulaBeagleSeb09:04
chx_welcome. how can I force apt not to check a package dependency for ever? "bmp-wma: Depends: beep-media-player (>= 0.9.7+cvs20041121.12) but 0.9.7-1ubuntu1 is to be installed" -- bmp-wma and beep-media-player works as it should, apt is wrong in this case.09:05
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seanlinusplease help09:05
seanlinusi want to setup a db09:05
nickruddantheman, try using foomatic-gui to install. no promises, though09:05
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seanlinusanyone here have similar experienced?09:06
Arcwhat's really confusing is that KDE (kubuntu install) insists on putting an icon for the zip drives on the screen without a delete option and I can't figure out how it found /dev/hdd4 (which it somehow knows a zip drive is at)09:06
danthemannickrud: terminal didn't recognize the command09:06
nickrudapt-get :)09:06
Reblendedhas anyone gotten any of the xorg drivers to work for an intel chipset? (specifically the 825 series)09:06
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danthemannickrud: ah, alright09:06
seanlinushow to have a privilege in mysql to create a db?09:06
seanlinuswhich user i need to use?09:07
seanlinusplease09:07
Arcwhen kde tries to mount it (for media:/hdd4) it reports an error and closes quickly09:07
WeirdAlseanlinus, sudo mysql09:07
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ArcReblended: thanks for trying, but this is really an issue of asking for help09:08
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Reblendedarc =]  np09:08
nickrudseanlinus, try asking on #mysql for a pointer to beginning docs09:08
seanlinusaccess denied for sudo mysql09:08
Arci can give as many details as I know but when someone pops on they'll just ask me for the details again09:08
pr3vi0uz hello i have an question im trying to mount my hardrive when i type the command  in xterm  i get this error can't find /dev/hde1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab09:08
Reblendedvesa or i8xx drivers both fail to work... restart > fail GDM09:08
WeirdAl:-) No, run it like that09:08
seanlinushow to do it nickrud?09:08
WeirdAlInstead of running mysql, run sudo mysql instead.09:08
Reblendedeven in 8bit ...09:08
seanlinusi did sudo mysql09:08
nickrudseanlinus, /join #mysql09:09
slask3nTomcat_ : OK, thanks for the help :) Cant figure it out, cant ping him either :s but ill fix it another day while im visiting him...09:10
rayofashI cant figure out how to install MPlayer >.<, I am without a media player ;-;....09:10
Reblendedeven vlc? rayofash ?09:10
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rayofashvlc?09:10
Edganrayofash: add universe to your repo list, then install it09:10
nickrudpr3vi0uz, mount -t ext3 /dev/hde1 /path/to/mount09:10
Reblendedvlc is Fine, rayofash09:10
eaonrayofash: www.videolan.org09:11
WeirdAlif you run "sudo mysql" from the terminal and put in your Linux user password you'll have admin access on mysql.09:11
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rayofashOh yes, VLC.09:11
rayofashI forgot about that one09:11
rayofashThats the one I use for Windows09:11
Reblended=] 09:11
rayofashThat one is good...09:11
ReblendedI like the onscreen vol/etc09:11
seanlinusi tried WeirdAl and it's saying "str@Agila:~$ sudo mysql09:13
seanlinusERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)"09:13
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Arcok I think I fixed the zip disk issue on my own thanks to google but the network problem remains (3c509 card not being detected)09:14
Arcwhere is isapnptools09:14
Reblendedgoogle hugs09:14
Arcit's nowhere in the package system.  "isa" is simply not found.09:14
Reblendedarc http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/ ?09:14
ArcReblended: yes. where is that in the Ubuntu package system though?09:14
WeirdAlOo09:14
Arcdoes Ubuntu simply not have support for ISA?!?09:15
WeirdAlDunno then seanlinus, sorry09:15
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transgresswow09:15
transgressi like this protection plan i bought on my lappy09:15
rayofashReblended, I can download VLC, it says to do apt-get install gnome-vlc and all that, but it says the package isnt available.09:15
FlyingSquirrel32anyone use cedega here?09:15
Reblendedwhy not just download and install manuall? =] 09:15
buzdoes anybody know how the support for ati radeon xpress boards is in ubuntu?09:15
Reblendedlater all!09:15
transgressthey don't care if you put linux on the computer... they said at most... they would just put linux back on it if i needed a repair on some of the hardware09:16
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rayofashBecause they dont have one I can just download and install manually09:16
HulaBeagleSebjust wondering, does ubuntu do anything fedora core doesn't?09:17
HulaBeagleSebor vice versa09:17
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rayofashYea, it actually runs.09:18
Insomtnx for all ure help guys.. c u nex time.. take care09:18
HulaBeagleSebrayofash: seriously09:18
buzseriously09:18
cyphasequestion: i've installed mod_python, and the apache signature confirms it, but it's not processing it09:18
buzfedora would always break whenever i tried to update it09:19
cyphaseanyone know whats wrong?09:19
rayofashWell I get sound in Ubuntu, I dont in Fedora Core09:19
seanlinusif i doing direct mysql in the terminal (not sudo mysql) it works!09:19
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seanlinusbut only it has not privilege even to create a database09:19
seanlinusany help please09:20
HulaBeagleSebseanlinus: i do mysql -u root -p09:20
HulaBeagleSebit works09:20
HulaBeagleSebwill privlidges09:20
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b0olwhat was the command to format a hdd?09:21
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seanlinusHula: str@Agila:~$ mysql -u root -p09:21
seanlinusEnter password:09:21
seanlinusERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)09:21
seanlinusstr@Agila:~$09:21
seanlinuswhat went wrong with my installation?09:22
seanlinusi just installed it just now09:22
b0olseanlinus09:22
b0oltry sudo -s09:22
HulaBeagleSebhave you set a mysql root password09:22
HulaBeagleSeb?09:22
Upayavirab0ol: mkfs -t ext3 /dev/FOO09:23
b0olah sry09:23
b0olread wrong :>09:23
b0olthnx Upayavira09:23
HulaBeagleSebseanlinus: ?09:23
ifrAmaranth - Installed network-manager gnome as you suggested. Can't get it to start and now the network is completely down on that box. How is it invoked?09:23
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Amaranthifr: No clue. :P09:23
seanlinusi didn't set the password yet09:23
ifrAh. Thanks09:23
Amaranthifr: That webpage had that info.09:23
HulaBeagleSebthats why09:23
HulaBeagleSebdo it like this09:23
ifrOkay, I thought yuo had run it as well'...Better luck to me next time!09:24
HulaBeagleSebmysqladmin -u root -p password yoursuperdupernewpassword09:24
ifrThanks09:24
HulaBeagleSebsorry09:24
HulaBeagleSebIGNORE THAT seanlinus09:24
HulaBeagleSebit should be09:24
HulaBeagleSebmysqladmin -u root password yoursuperdupernewpassword09:24
SeamusLPAmaranth:  So far the only complaint about that bittorrent client is that it can't be resized.  Wouldn't it be fairly trivial to change this in pygtk?09:24
flyingsquirrel54FlyingSquirrel32: Testing...09:24
ifrOkay, can anyone help me restart my network daemons without restarting the bloody machine? /etc/init.d/networking restart does nothing, nor does ifdown09:25
rayofashtry root09:25
ifrrayofash was that for IFR ?09:25
AmaranthSeamusLP: Yeah, I could make the starting size the minimum size.09:25
rayofashwhat?09:26
FlyingSquirrel32Anyone here use WTlib?09:26
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SeamusLPAmaranth:  Cool.  I might have to learn python.  It appears to be rather simple and quick to boot.09:27
transgresswow... there isn't a single gtk client that offers all that psi does... that sucks.09:27
seanlinusokei, how to reset mysql root password?09:27
seanlinusis there any way?09:27
seanlinusif i reinstall mysql it will work?09:27
HulaBeagleSebseanlinux: remove mysql and reinstall ;-)09:27
HulaBeagleSebseanlinus: have you set the password?09:27
seanlinushow to do it Hula - sorry newbie here09:27
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seanlinusi'm not so sure, to be honest09:28
seanlinushow to uninstall mysql09:28
HulaBeagleSebseanlinus: did you try my instructions?09:28
seanlinusi did Hula09:28
HulaBeagleSebdid it work?09:29
transgressokay i've read the man page for sudoers but i still am having trouble figuring out exactly how to edit this file09:29
seanlinusnope09:29
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resiaktransgress: As root, run visudo. Edit to your heart's content. :wq. You're done.09:29
transgressdoes someone feel like helping me?  i'm trying to make it so i'm authenticated less, and now that i've read that i want insults on09:29
transgressresiak: i've gotten that far...09:29
resiaktransgress: Define "authenticated less".09:30
seanlinusi'll be back... check some docs first09:30
seanlinusthanks folks09:30
gdshello people09:30
transgresswhere it asks me for my password less often when i sudo09:30
Insomim back sooner thany i expected09:30
transgressresiak: it seems to have increased when i enabled su... which i now disabled since i'm getting used to sudo09:30
Insomi have a problem playing divx09:31
rayofashWhere can I get a C compiler?09:31
transgressInsom: you have divx4linux?09:31
Insomi have installed the plugins.. but.. my tothem just playes sound but no picture09:31
Choubakarayofash: install gcc09:31
Choubakaor preferably, build-essential09:31
Insomtransgress: not sure09:31
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resiaktransgress: *shrug*09:32
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rayofashconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check09:33
rayofashWhats that mean?09:33
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jboyens_I'm having some weird DHCP problems with Ubuntu... DHCP works in Windows but not in Ubuntu. I don't ever receive a DHCPOFFER. Any ideas?09:34
asmodinic problems09:35
jboyens_Tried 4 different NICS. Different brands too.09:35
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jboyens_Tried different cables as well.09:35
asmodiThen I don't know09:36
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_-InMa-_buenas noches, bona nit, good night09:37
oris_wolfbanemu usb mp3 player automounts, but ubunttu rekons it only has 102.ok of freespace09:37
HulaBeagleSebsuse 9.3 is looking swell!09:37
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bad_mongoanyone know why I don't have sounds on DVDs?09:38
resiakbad_mongo: Been buying silent movies?09:38
bur[n] erbad_mongo: have sound elsewhere?09:39
oris_wolfbanedoes anyone knowwhy ubuntu rekons my mp3 palyer ony has 102.0kb of space09:39
bad_mongojupp, all other sound work09:40
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bad_mongodivx, mp3 and cd have sound09:40
Insomi have installed the plugins.. but.. my tothem just playes sound but no picture and i did install divx4linux09:40
Insomanyone?09:41
] BreliC[HulaBeagleSeb, i hope its gotten quicker.  it's getting ridiculous.  I started with 8.2, then used 9.0, 9.1, 9.2, and finally decided to ditch it for Ubuntu.  It's become quite bloated *and* they just keep crippling the multimedia more and more09:41
HulaBeagleSebit says on reviews it has09:42
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] BreliC[that's good... but too little too late for me.. i've given up09:42
Burgundavia9.3 is the first distro to ship with Beagle09:43
bad_mongosuse's to big.. 5 cd's!09:43
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] BreliC[yeah, and it's also shipping with a BETA version of what most people will use as their most important Word processing software09:43
] BreliC[very silly IMO09:43
Burgundaviaso will FC409:43
Jefishow to update all packagers from konsole?09:43
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Burgundaviaas OO2 will not ship until July09:44
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] BreliC[so far in my experience, OOo2 beta looks nice, functions well, but isn't ready and has quite a few bugs... so i play around with it, but never rely on it for important stuff09:45
bad_mongowhat other distros use apt-get? mandrake?09:45
SeamusLPWhat kinds of bugs did you encounter?09:45
] BreliC[bad_mongo, nope, but you can install it if you want to09:45
SeamusLPAny data-loss?09:45
fgxhi. will security team fix the bug of php discovered today?09:45
rayofashgawd, so many diffrent libraries and packages just for VLC >.<09:46
] BreliC[SeamusLP, yup, crashed on me about one out of 5 or 6 times I was using it (under KDE in SuSE 9,2)... and it won't save over the network for some reason09:46
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] BreliC[doesn't handle the old 1.x file format well, sometimes crashing, sometimes exiting09:46
ivoksEHLO ubuntu@freenode.net09:46
bad_mongook..09:46
ivoksso... k3b or gnomebaker?09:47
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Jefisk3b rulz09:47
ivokswhich one u like more?09:47
] BreliC[bad_mongo, Debian, Xandros, Linspire.. and Ubuntu, among others09:47
njan250-ubuntu.channel.freenode Hello ivoks [lns01-0087.dsl.iskon.hr] 09:47
ivoksnjan ;)09:47
SeamusLP] BreliC[:  Lame.  I'll have to wait awhile before I use it.09:47
njan250-ASKQUESTION09:47
bad_mongo] BreliC[, ok, thank you09:47
njan250-FLAMEPEOPLE09:47
njan250-LEAVE09:47
ivoksnjan AUTH?09:47
njan:)09:47
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slappy18njan: LOL09:48
njan503 ASKQUESTION required before AUTH09:48
ivokshehe09:48
rrichiei have a problem : When i try a command that must be run as root (ex. kuser or Administrator mode in kde control center), i type the good password but it says it is the wrong password? someone has an idea ?09:48
slappy18ehlo ubuntu.com09:48
ivoks503 WRONG ANSWER09:48
njan500 UNRECOGNISED COMMAND09:48
slappy18lol09:48
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ivoks666 MAYDAY MAYDAY09:48
njan500 Too many unrecognised commands09:48
] BreliC[SeamusLP, np.. though that's only my experience ;)09:48
ivoksah... dirty SMTP talk09:48
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njan:-p09:48
ivokswhat's up with ban?09:49
njanivoks, it was a joke, I didn't actually ban you, it was a /me ;)09:49
ivoksah well...09:49
slappy18ivoks talkin http and njan talkin smtp...good luck09:49
SeamusLP] BreliC[:  I trust that you weren't using it while taking drugs or something.09:49
slappy18two foreigners09:49
slappy18have we been sysadmining too long?09:49
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slappy18when you can distinguish proto-speak09:50
] BreliC[SeamusLP, hehe, nope.  may have had a slight wine buzz a few times though09:50
ivoksfor 10 years now... ok, allmost :)09:50
slappy18lol09:50
njanslappy18, we started talking in it, what does that say about us? :p09:50
SeamusLP] BreliC[:  Just as long as it wasn't LSD ;)09:50
ivokshahahaha09:50
slappy18at least theres no klingon, yet09:50
] BreliC[;)09:50
ivoksbut hey!09:50
njanrrk'B Tal, slappy18 ?09:50
ivokswe can do SSL! :)09:50
njanivoks, STARTTLS09:50
ivoksyeah! even better :)09:51
njanivoks, $random_incomprehensible_data09:51
foltai have a fairly odd problem with wireless networking: it only successfully connects about 0.5% of the tries i make - even though i can 'see' the router with iwconfig. anyone know why it might be erratic?09:51
ivoks250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN09:51
ivoks250 8BITMIME09:51
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njanbbias09:51
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ivoksfolta ?09:51
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foltaivoks?09:52
ivoksmore info, wich wireless etc..09:52
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ivoksnjan quit the chatter: ^]  :)09:52
foltaivoks - rt2500 chipset, amd-64 system, using native drivers compiled from source, the access point uses wep09:52
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foltaivoks , also dhcp for configuration09:53
ivoksno expirience with that... only ipw220009:53
ivoksfolta so.. it connects to AP, but no data flow?09:54
mikecoack totem is borked09:54
foltaivoks, it can see the AP, it doesn't get an address thru DHCP tho09:54
nnonixbleee09:54
ivoksfolta is AP giving address or some other machine behind AP?09:54
foltaivoks, the AP is09:55
transgressso geek09:55
ivoksfolta and AP works ok with other machines?09:55
transgresshave this box, my desktop going with three irc chats... CLI going on my server with the monitor on the same desk, lappy in my lap.  using all of the above.09:56
foltaivoks, with all the windows machines and my handheld, yep09:56
ivoksfolta ok09:56
ivoksfolta set IP address manually09:56
ivoksfolta get nmap and portscan whole subnet09:56
ivoksivoks make that sweepping, not portscan09:57
ivokswtf is wrong with me tonight? :)09:57
ivoksfolta nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24 for example09:57
ivoksfolta it should display all machines...09:57
foltaivoks, i shall have a go...09:57
ivoksfolta and.. one more thing...09:57
ivoksfolta many laptops have switch for on or off for their wifi card09:58
ivoksfolta ipw2200 driver works with that switch on keyboard09:58
ivoksbut some don't!09:58
ivoksdid u check that?09:58
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ivoksthere is some tool... rifswitch or something like that...09:58
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rayofashhey09:59
foltaivoks, it09:59
rayofashim trying to install VLC09:59
folta's a desktop actually09:59
rayofashand when i do a ./configure09:59
rayofashit says:09:59
ivoksfolta ah, ok10:00
ivoks:)10:00
Insomcan anyone tell me of any other divx players for ubuntu besides tothem and mplayer?10:00
rayofashconfigure: error: Missing header file ffmpeg/avcodec.h.10:00
rayofashI have downloaded and installed the ffmpeg library10:00
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rayofashI think, I did a ./configure and sudo make install10:00
foltaivoks , can't get nmap without a network connection!10:00
rayofashI even moved the avcodec.h into the VLC configure folder.10:00
ivoksfolta iwconfig says there is wifi?10:00
rayofashAnd it still gives me that10:00
ivoksfolta which interface?10:00
foltaivoks, it's called ra0, and iwconfig shows a connection10:01
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ivoksok...10:01
Insomanyone?10:01
ivoksfolta iwconfig ra0 192.168.0.123 up10:02
ivoksfolta or whatever IP u have there...10:02
ivokssorry10:02
ivoksifconfig10:02
ivoksnot iwconfig10:02
krusbjorninsom: you could try vlc10:02
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drspinugh irsii :/10:03
ivoksfolta and then try with nmap10:04
goldfishirssi is great drspin :)10:04
drspinhow can I eject a CD that has had read erros and buffer errors for the last half hour?10:05
foltaivoks, i don't have an IP10:05
ivoksfolta find wifi-radar package and play with it...10:05
ivoksfolta what do u mean u don't have IP? invent one10:05
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drspin???10:06
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ivoks:)10:06
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bad_mongoanyone tested xandros? does it hava gnome 2.10 and kde 3.4?10:06
ivokschoose one, try to choose one that is free10:06
Valentin-hey, how do I uninstall packages like the games in the fastest way?10:07
drspinhere's a better question10:08
JefisHow to update all packages from console?10:08
Choubakaapt-get upgrade10:08
drspinusing apt-get how can I reinstall the entire OS without formatting (i.e. reinstall all packages in ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop)10:09
Choubakaof course, you may want to perform an apt-get update first.10:09
Choubakadrspin: hmm :|10:09
Choubakathat may be tricky10:09
Choubakawhy do you want to do it anyway?10:09
nickrud-awaydrspin, use aptitude10:09
drspinChoubaka: I've tried apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-base10:09
drspinbut it doesn't work10:09
Choubakayeah10:09
drspinnickrud-away: how would I do it in aptitude?10:10
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Choubakait only reinstalls the metapackage.10:10
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ChoubakaBut answer me10:10
nickrud-awaylooking :)10:10
drspinChoubaka: correct10:10
ChoubakaWhy do you want this?10:10
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drspinChoubaka: because I've had a rough time with DMA settings -- suffered some data corruption...10:10
drspinChoubaka: after a couple of hard-reboots10:10
Choubakaouch :|10:10
drspinChoubaka: yes10:10
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drspinnickrud-away: thanks10:11
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foltaivoks, i can't install nmap without a working connection...10:12
ivokslol10:12
ivokstrue :)10:12
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nickrud-awaydrspin, I don't have docs installed, and I don't remember the key command.10:12
drspinnickrud-away: booo ;) thanks for trying10:12
nickrud-awayfor rinstall. Find it, hightlight 'Installed Packages' line, and hit it.10:12
ivoksfolta ifconfig ra0 dhcp up10:12
nickrud-awaythat will reinstall all installed packages10:13
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ivoksfolta sorry... like this:10:13
ivoksfolta sudo dhclient ra010:13
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foltaivoks, ok10:14
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sick-headacheanyone here?10:15
ivoksnope10:15
sick-headacheok :)10:15
dazeddoes gaim have a website nayone?10:15
sick-headachei cant play dvds in linux, what prog do i need, or plugins10:16
concept10gaim.sourceforge.net i think10:16
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krusbjorndazed: google it?10:16
dazedlazy...just reading the man10:16
foltaivoks, it does dhcprequests and then  dhcpdisovers to 255.255.255.255, but with no response10:17
drspindazed: #gaim10:17
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drspindazed: gaim.sourceforge.net10:17
rayofashError: X11 support required for GUI compilation10:17
rayofashWhats that mean?10:17
dazeddrspin: thanks10:17
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drspindazed: and for m$ #wingaim10:17
Arccan anyone help me configure hald?10:18
dazeddrspin: ...negative on the last one lol10:18
ArcI need to make it not touch the zip drive, it's putting non-functional icons on my KDE desktop for the atapi zip drive10:18
drspindazed: good deal ;)10:18
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ivoksfolta iwconfig says what? paste to me on private10:18
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drspinso it seems that aptitude won't let me do it either...10:19
Arccan someone please help with this problem?10:20
drspinbasically I just want to reinstall all the dependencies of package_x10:20
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drspinanyone?10:20
nahumhello10:20
nahumsomeone could help me with my cam10:20
nahum?10:20
drspinnahum: what software?10:20
nahumi don't really know10:20
Arcwow10:20
drspinnahum: what are you wanting to do?10:21
nahumi was trying to install the software10:21
ArcUbuntu: the distro of all newbies10:21
nahumand i got thouseand of problems10:21
Arcthose needing help helping eachother :-/10:21
Arcnahum: we all do. and there's been nobody really helping for at least the last hour10:21
nahumfinally i recompiled the sources10:21
mikecohm10:21
nahumand i could install10:21
drspinArc: I don't know what your problem is...10:21
nahumthe driver10:21
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nahumwhen I type lsusb i get10:22
drspinnahum: you running ubuntu compiled from source?10:22
nahumBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000010:22
nahumyes, with kernel 2.6.1010:22
drspinnahum: or just the driver?10:22
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drspinok lsusb10:22
drspinonly paste the info about the CAM10:22
kakaltowhat's with potatoe?10:23
kakaltodebian's potatoe?10:23
drspinhow can I reinstall all dependencies of package_x using apt???10:24
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nahumwhat info do you need to help me?10:24
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drspinnahum: lsusb10:24
nahumwhat i pasted it's just what i get10:25
drspinnahum: just the one line?10:25
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nahumnahum@mrvertigo:~ $ lsusb10:25
nahumBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000010:25
nahumyes, just one line10:25
drspinnahum: $ sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart10:25
drspinnahum: then lsusb10:25
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kakaltois there a guide to optimising ubuntu loadup time & speed?10:26
Arckakalto: if you want to optimize anything, use Gentoo.10:26
ArcUbuntu is easy to use but is far from optimized.10:26
kakaltoI expected an answer like that10:26
kjalildrspin: how about reinstalling the package using 'apt-get --reinstall <package>'?10:26
drspinArc: WTF man --10:26
mikecohaha10:26
kakaltothing is, Gentoo didn't have support for some of my hardware >.<10:27
nahumbut10:27
mikecojust turning off hotplug speeds the load time up10:27
drspinkjalil: doesn't reinstall the depends -- just the package itself10:27
nahumok10:27
nahumi try10:27
mikecobut.10:27
kakaltoalthough that was version 2004.110:27
nahumbut although the driver is not installed10:27
drspinkakalto: gentoo has support for more hardware and sys configs than any other distro10:27
mikecomake sure all your drivers are loaded properly10:27
nahumshouldn't lsusb show the product id and vendor id?10:27
kakaltodrspin, well, ubuntu supported my soundcard, where gentoo didn't10:28
kakaltodrspin, I tried EVERYTHING to get it working10:28
rayofashI'm trying to compile MPlayer with GUI support and I am getting: Error: X11 support required for GUI compilation10:28
mikecokakalto, or maybe the driver wasn't built10:28
kakaltonone of the guides worked10:28
drspinkakalto: uh -- LOL what sound card?10:28
kakaltomikeco, I tried compiling my own10:28
kjalildrspin: how about doing a apt-get clean first before you try that?10:28
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kakaltodrspin, Onboard VIA 82XXXX10:28
kakaltowhat was it10:29
mcrawforheya - sometime when I resume after suspend to memory, my screen doesn't come back on10:29
Arcdrspin: hey, Gentoo has better support for Ubuntu too10:29
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mcrawforanyone have ubuntu-specific ideas on that?10:29
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mikecosnd_via82xx10:30
mikecofrom alsa works10:30
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chicken_maneople :P10:30
chicken_manhey people *10:30
^thehatsrule^lol10:30
drspinkjalil: same behavior -- it seems that if theres an option to "build-dep" there should be an option to "reinstall-dep"10:31
chicken_mani got ubuntu running with windows now :)10:31
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kakaltomikeco, maybe 2004.1 wasn't a good release10:31
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kjalildrspin: have you tried 'purging' the package with 'apt-get --purge remove <package>' and then trying?10:32
mikecoheh, it's just building the proper alsa drivers10:32
mikecoon any linux10:32
mikecodistro that is10:32
WebMavenHi folks, I haven't had any updates since Hoary was released. I reload, but get no new packages.10:32
kjalildrspin: i'm not sure if that removes dependencies or not. btw, why do you want to reinstall everything anyway?10:32
drspinkjalil: LOL -- once again just removes the metapackage, not the deps...10:32
kjalildrspin: perhaps it's time for dpkg and not apt10:33
drspinkjalil: bad hdparm incident --10:33
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kjalildrspin: which package you trying to install?10:33
jeavishello somebody know where I can download oreilly books10:33
drspinkjalil: and 3 or 4 hard reboots... got some corruption --10:34
cyphasejeavis: oreilly.com10:34
cyphaselol10:34
drspinkjalil: ubuntu-base && ubuntu-desktop... don't want to reformat again (just did yesterday)10:34
kjaliljeavis: you can pay for them and view them online with oreilly's safari10:34
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nxvlhi10:34
WebMavenDoes anyone have a clue why I have not had any new package updates for the past few weeks?10:34
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drspinWebMaven: because Hoary is stable...10:34
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nxvli have just change my SO from debian to Ubuntu on mi Laptop10:34
nxvland im loving it10:34
jeaviskjalil; I want to download free10:34
cyphasejeavis: http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/10:35
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nxvlbut i have a problem10:35
syntaxisdrspin: if it's a metapackage, just list its dependencies and then do an "apt-get install --reinstall <foo>" on those10:35
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mikecowould someone load http://community.webshots.com/user/jezzieta02 and then click one of the albums. tell me you experience load problems10:35
nxvlto put mi displey on and proyector or other Monitor10:35
WebMavendrspin, are you saying that there have been no updates at all in the past few weeks? Not for security or anything else?10:35
mikecoi just want to make sure it's not firefox10:36
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LinuxJonesAnybody comment on how Breezy is working ATM ?10:37
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drspinsyntaxis: every package in ubuntu-base && ubuntu-devel... that would take me a while10:38
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syntaxisdrspin: why? You can specify multiple packages at a time10:38
kjalildrspin: have you got the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives? maybe you could use 'dpkg -i *.deb' on them or something like that10:39
kjalilsyntaxis: what is the command to look at a package's dependencies from the command-line10:39
kjalil?10:39
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syntaxiskjalil: "apt-cache showpkg <foo>" IIRC10:40
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sobersabreguys. there's evolution 2.2.2 out. is there a way to have it on hoary ?10:40
syntaxisit's complicated a little by the fact that complex metapackages (e.g. KDE) tend to depend on other metapackages in turn, but...10:40
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guido_kjalil, or rather apt-cache depends <foo>10:41
kjalilsyntaxis, can you put all those brackets and parentheses in the command to apt-get?10:41
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guido_kjalil, <foo> stands for packagename10:42
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kakaltodoes anyone know what configuration files in my home directory that could make gnome crash on loadin ?10:43
kjalilguido: so apt-cache depends ubuntu-base | cut -c9-  should give you a list then?10:43
syntaxiskjalil: you could easily whip up a script to parse the output and pass it to "apt-cache showpkg" via xargs, but failing that, manually copying and pasting the dependencies isn't that hard10:43
kjalili could put the output of that into a script and that should work10:43
kakaltoanyone?10:44
syntaxiskjalil: yes, provided you filter out all but the contents of the "Dependencies:" part of the output and remove extraneous information such as the version number10:44
kjalilsyntaxis, yes i think so too ;)10:45
LinuxJoneskakalto, what kid of error comes up ?10:45
drspinsyntaxis: multiple packaged to the tune of every package in ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop?? that would take forever (I don't have X running so I can't copy and past)10:45
sobersabreguys. i have upgraded to hoary from sarge. i have strange problem with yelp: it doesn't run.10:45
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kjalildrspin: looks like that's how youll have to do it, use apt-cache depends ubuntu-base | grep -c9-10:45
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drspinkjalil: I ran apt-get clean already :/10:46
syntaxiskjalil: you could also filter the output of "apt-cache depends <foo>" which might be cleaner10:46
sobersabreis there a way to _really_ make sure upgrade was run fine ?10:46
drspinkjalil: oooh lemme try that10:46
kjalildrspin: redirect that list into a file, edit the file with vim and remove any extraneous stuff10:46
kakaltoLinuxJones, it doesn't display an error, it jast freezes10:46
kjalildrspin: put a apt-get install in front of the long list and you're done i guess10:46
kakaltoLinuxJones, I think it's something to do with xfce10:46
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LinuxJoneskakalto, can you boot into gnome or kde ok ?10:47
kakaltokde, yes10:47
kakaltoicewm, yes10:47
kakaltoI reinstalled, so I don't actually have xfce installed at the moment, but somethings were left in my home partition10:47
kakaltobut gnome doesn't work10:47
LinuxJoneskakalto, jsut delete the .xfce directory then try to login again it should start you over from scratch10:47
Johanssonhi10:47
LinuxJoneskakalto, gnome doesn't work ?10:48
kakaltoLinuxJones, I'm pretty sure there is no such directory10:48
kakaltoLinuxJones, when it's loading, it freezes before loading anything, it just shows the splash screen10:48
Johanssoni get this error when i try to send email with evolution: MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first.10:48
FlyingSquirrel32where can i get a good .deb for wine?10:48
Johanssoneither using gmail smtp or using sendmail, the samen error10:48
stevedkakalto: i had a similar problem earlier truned out to be aproblem in my saved session file10:49
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syntaxisFlyingSquirrel32: what's wrong with the one already provided?10:49
kakaltoFlyingSquirrel32, either from apt-get, or www.winehq.org10:49
LinuxJoneskakalto, the .xfce4 directory10:49
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FlyingSquirrel32oooooold10:49
kakaltoLinuxJones, I'll give it a go10:49
kjalildrspin: i've put up a file for you at: http://www.kerneljack.com/temp.txt10:49
syntaxisFlyingSquirrel32: but does it work?10:49
LinuxJoneskakalto, or you can first try creating a new user and logging into xfce in that account10:50
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kjalildrspin: if you're on hoary i suppose it should be the same list as you would get10:50
FlyingSquirrel32syntaxis: not with the software I really want.10:50
kakaltoLinuxJones, xfce isn't installed at the moment10:50
kakaltoand I tried making another user, but it screwed up I think10:50
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drspinthe human gdm theme... what package is that?10:51
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mikecoyou shouyld just pay for codeweavers wine10:52
mikecoshould10:52
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mikecoit was worth it10:52
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cens0redgood moaning.10:52
kjalildrspin: gdm-themes?10:52
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drspinkjalil: LOL tried it ;)10:52
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kjalildrspin: did you get the file?10:53
LinuxJoneskakalto, it might be faster to jsut wipe everyting and do a re-install :D10:53
kakaltowhat's the command to start X with gnome10:53
kakaltoLinuxJones, screw that, I'll just uninstall gnome :010:53
drspinkjalil: ytes10:53
drspinkjalil: *yes10:53
Nomikosis there any text-to-speech software for ubuntu/debian?10:53
tritium#/join python10:53
LinuxJoneskakalto, /etc/init.d/gdm restart .... then select gnome10:54
stevedkakalto: is it gnome you are having problems whith ? if so try deleting the session files in ~/.gnome worked for me earlier when i had a similar problem10:54
kakaltothanks, steved10:54
kakaltoI'll try10:54
kakaltoLinuxJones, I don't use gdm :)10:54
stevedkakalto sry .gnome2 is the directory10:54
SQL_Sami cant seem to connect to irc.mozilla.org from xchat?  any advice?10:54
FlyingSquirrel32I'm using rythembox to play my mp3's, but I want to edit the metadata to organize them. Rythembox doesn't seem to let me do that. Any ideas?10:54
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kakaltosteved, that too :)10:55
JohanssonFlyingSquirrel32, use easytag10:55
drspinFlyingSquirrel32: easytag10:55
FlyingSquirrel32thx10:55
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Johanssonanybody here uses evolution?10:55
thegreedyturtleyes10:56
kakaltoI'll be back!10:56
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kaesehummerJohansson, i do10:56
drspinLinuxJones: I did a hard reboot while copying a large file from the CD-ROM because It had been copying for over an hour and was still getting i/o errors (bad sectors)10:56
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drspinLinuxJones: this caused LOTS AND LOTS of data corruption...10:57
Johanssonand you can send email?10:57
kaesehummeryup10:57
LinuxJonesdrspin, argh10:57
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Johanssonwith sendmail or smtp?10:57
kaesehummersmtp10:57
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Johanssoni get that -> MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first10:57
Johanssonwith sendmail, and gmail smtp10:58
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Johanssonany ideas?10:58
kjalildrspin: good luck, i gotta go ;-)10:58
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SQL_Samwhat other irc clients are available?10:58
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sobersabreJohansson, i use evo.10:58
mattgirvAnyone here listen to TalkSPORT? (www.talksport.net)10:58
sobersabrewhat seems to be the problem ?10:59
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NomikosSQL_Sam: you can use chatzilla, from mozilla?10:59
Johanssoni can't send email10:59
Johanssonsobersabre, I get that error -> MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first10:59
Johanssoni've tried all different settings, there aren't many10:59
SQL_Samnever tried it - my mozilla firefox is laggy that is why i wanted to go on the irc.mozilla.org10:59
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SQL_Samxchat seems to never connect...11:00
Nomikoswhat are you using now?11:00
SQL_Samxchat11:00
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Nomikoshmm... check logs, all I can think of :/11:02
sobersabreJohansson, you need to setup account properly.11:02
sobersabredefine sending mail to an SMTP with TLS enabled.11:02
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FlyingSquirrel32Johansson: I just tried Easytag. Its nice but not quite as good as I'd like.11:02
sobersabreJohansson,11:03
sobersabreare you there ?11:03
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drspinhow can I reinstall GTK?11:03
Johanssonyes11:03
Johanssoncan't find that option11:03
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sobersabreJohansson, choose "server requires authentication"11:04
Johanssonjust "use secure conection"11:04
FlyingSquirrel32Johansson: Windows Media Player (I can't beleive I'm saying this) allowed me to search for all ot the files that had a certain artist and then change the name of the artist all at once11:04
Johanssonyes, it's checked11:04
drspinFlyingSquirrel32: then make your own --11:04
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lunitikdrspin: apt-get install --reinstall libgtk2.0-0   ... but you prolly want dpkg-reconfigure libgtk2.0-011:05
sobersabreJohansson, now there's option "use secure connection" choose whenever possible, and then "check what the server supports"11:05
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Johanssonsobersabre, already did that11:05
drspinlunitik: thanks!! any idea how to reinstall the dependencies of package_x?11:05
FlyingSquirrel32drspin: I was afraid you'd say that :)  I could in VB.net, but not in C yet.11:05
Johanssonlike i said, there aren't much options, and i've tried all of them11:05
drspinFlyingSquirrel32: try C++ you may pick it up pretty quick ;)11:05
mikecoperl11:06
lunitikdrspin: ahh... nah...11:06
mikeco:D11:06
FlyingSquirrel32drspin: I wonder why rhytembox doesn't let you change that way... it's a shame.11:06
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FlyingSquirrel32drspin:  I've got to learn C !!!!11:06
drspinFlyingSquirrel32: it will eventually ;)11:06
drspinFlyingSquirrel32: the next version I think...11:07
fubarHi, can someone tell me if there's anything wrong with my /etc/network/interfaces? mapping ath0\nscript /usr/local/sbin/netparam.sh\nmap HOME ath0-home11:07
FlyingSquirrel32drspin: seriously??11:07
fubar'/usr/local/sbin/netparam.sh ath0' returns 'HOME'11:07
drspinFlyingSquirrel32: if I remember correctly11:07
fubarso I don't see why ath-home isn't being called11:07
fubar* ath0-home11:07
sobersabreJohansson, what is "server type" saying ?11:07
FlyingSquirrel32drspin: Excelent, I'll just have to wait.11:07
FlyingSquirrel32and study.11:08
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JohanssonSMTP11:08
cionhow do I install XIne wav plugins?11:08
re|runI am having difficulty getting my wireless to work right. Everything seemed to be working fine for the first day I had ubuntu running but then yesterday it started dropping the connection and not picking it back up unless I rebooted. Today, it won't work even if I reboot. I have installed a cool little app called wicme to choose waps, but that didn't fix anything. The odd thing is that I can see the access points when I go to configure it, but11:09
re|runI can't connect. It's not a WEP issue b/c it does the same thing with open access points. can someone please give me a couple more ideas? I'm a bit of a newbie but I'm really loving ubuntu!!11:09
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Johanssonbut i've tried with Sendmail (i think it will use postfix)11:09
Johanssonsame error :(11:09
lunitikcion: throw them in /usr/lib/win3211:09
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drspinOMG -- I got an ext filesystem error and it remounted it in read-only now I can't use sudo which means I can't access root which means another hard reboot :'(11:10
ringmauerhow do i see what kernel version i'm running?11:10
cionlunitik: what u mean throw them?11:10
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lunitikringmauer: uname -r11:10
ringmauertnx11:10
lunitikcion: put them there11:10
LinuxJonesIs anyone running Breezy ?11:10
lunitikcion: xine looks there for its codecs11:11
lunitikLinuxJones: yes11:11
djonesre|run, My wifi works flawlessly. Perhaps it's a driver issue?11:11
LinuxJoneslunitik, how's it working generally ?11:11
re|rundrjones my wifi *worked* flawlessly.11:11
LinuxJoneslunitik, ok ?11:11
cionlunitik:yeah but where do i get them?11:11
Johanssonsobersabre, found it11:11
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lunitikLinuxJones: afaict, fine11:11
Johanssonit works11:11
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Johanssonit's kinda strange11:11
sobersabreJohansson, what was the prob ?11:11
LinuxJoneslunitik, ok thanks I'm gonna upgrade11:11
cionlunitik: i m not talking bout codecs, but plugins11:11
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re|rundrjones: but it has gotten weird.11:11
lunitikcion: www.apt-get.org <-- search for w32codecs11:12
Johanssondidn't work because in the receiving options11:12
keffohm, again.. what was the wget command for getting everything in a dir?11:12
Johanssoni set the options for another account11:12
re|rundrjones: dunno --- maybe i should just reinstall everything?11:12
re|runkind of a pain11:12
djonesre|run, did it get wierd when you installed that client software?11:12
Johanssonan account tha doesn't have smtp, but has pop11:12
lunitikLinuxJones: have fun, and lock libcamel1.2-[0,3]  before upgrading anything11:12
djonesvery much a pain11:12
re|runno .... i was doing that to try to fix it.11:12
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sobersabrewhat's the latest hoary firefox ?11:12
cionlunitik:thx ;911:12
lunitikLinuxJones: Universe and Main are arguing and stuff... wants to remove evolution and friends11:12
djonesre|run, I don't know if it would be helpful, but I use netapplet to manage my network switching.11:13
Johanssoni've had to set a new account preference, only for sending11:13
looksaussobersabre,11:13
looksausdpkg -l mozilla-firefox11:13
looksausGewenst=(U)Onbekend/Installeren/Remove/Purge/Hold11:13
looksaus| Status=Niet/geInstalleerd/Config/Uitgepakt/(F)config-mislukt/Half-geinst11:13
looksaus|/ Fout?=(geen)/Hold/Reinst nodig/X=beide (Status,Fout: hoofdlett=ernstig)11:13
looksaus||/ Naam           Versie         Omschrijving11:13
looksaus+++-==============-==============-============================================11:13
bad_mongois there a good idea to install open office 2.0 beta via apt-get, or is it smart to wait for the final release?11:13
looksausii  mozilla-firefo 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla11:13
lunitikbad_mongo: so far, its ok here11:13
Johanssonit didn't work that way with another clients, like sylpheed11:13
rolf_does anyone here know how to get ventrilo working in wine (or cedega/crossover)?11:13
LinuxJoneslunitik, I'm not worried about that :)11:13
re|rundrjones i don't know that it's a switching issue. i wish i knew command line stuff for wifi-- maybe i could see what was actually happening.11:13
Nomikosanyone using recite ?11:13
lunitiklooksaus: next time... just give up  'dpkg -l mozilla-firefox | grep ^ii'   flooding is annoying11:14
re|runIt's viewing the WAPs, but it's not connecting.11:14
re|runand it's not a WEP issue to be certain11:14
djonesre|run, iwconfig for getting the wifi going11:14
djonesre|run, then dhclient11:14
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bad_mongolunitik, does it replace the existing OO, or will I have 1.1 too, after install?11:14
djonesre|run, ifconfig is also helpful, as is iwscan11:14
lunitikbad_mongo: the latter11:14
djonesre|run, you can man each of those for specifics11:15
re|runhmm....11:15
re|runuh11:15
bad_mongolunitik, what do you mean?11:15
lunitikbad_mongo: both stay11:16
bad_mongook, thank you11:16
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Trickyphillips:O!11:17
TrickyphillipsWow.11:17
Trickyphillipshttp://img109.echo.cx/img109/5302/screenshotsoftwareupdates2gr.png :)11:17
TrickyphillipsWhen did this happen? 8-)11:17
Johanssonanother question, how can i add programs to the gnome menu?11:18
TrickyphillipsJohan: Applications >> System >> Menu editor11:18
Johanssonthere some programs that don't get added to the menu11:18
re|rundrjones: according to iwconfig it's working11:18
re|runbut it says there's no bit rate11:18
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Nomikosanyone know how I can fix this -> "waiting for /dev/dsp"11:18
Johanssonum?11:18
djonesre|run, ifconfig11:19
Johanssoni don't have the menu editor11:19
djonesre|run, do you have an IP?11:19
Nomikoswriting to that should make noise, but it doesn't11:19
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kakaltoGNOME still doesn't work though11:19
TrickyphillipsAh.. Are you in Warty, Johansson?11:19
Johanssonno11:19
Johanssonhoary for amd6411:19
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TrickyphillipsHmm. One second, then.11:20
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FlyingSquirrel32one more ??  When my pc boots, it tries to synch the time with ntp.ubuntulinux.org how do I tell it not to?11:20
Johanssonoh, wait11:20
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tidalwav1hi, room11:20
kakaltoguys, GNOME doesn't work, even after deleting the settings files for it11:20
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TrickyphillipsJohansson: Type nautilus applications:///Internet into the terminal.11:20
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tidalwav1I'm (sigh) having trouble trying to config a dual-boot system using ntldr and bootpart11:20
Gnome-loverHello11:20
mello_tidalwav1: have you tried the GRUB booter?11:20
Gnome-loveri have no sound with my ubuntu :(11:21
Johanssonno, i don't have menu editor11:21
tidalwav1mello_: I don't want to install GRUB on the MBR of my primary windows HD.11:21
tidalwav1I have two HDs.11:21
tidalwav1Master: windows.11:21
mello_tidalwav1: the easiest way i know of that i've done is just using an old junker 10GB for hoary11:21
mello_ah11:21
tidalwav1slave: ubuntu.11:21
mello_ditto11:21
tidalwav1I'm trying to use NTLDR from my regular windows drive to boot Ubuntu externally.11:22
tidalwav1it almost works.11:22
mello_gotcha11:22
bad_mongoJohansson, you'll find it with apt-cache search11:22
FlyingSquirrel32how do I send an Alt-Ctl-Del to a VNC server via Terminal Server Client?11:22
tidalwav1when I choose ubuntu on the ntldr screen11:22
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mello_i thought dual-booting meant you just wanted to pick witch one11:22
tidalwav1I can eventually get a grub menu11:22
mello_which*11:22
tidalwav1mello_: yes11:22
tidalwav1but it says filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 error 17: cannot mount selected partition11:23
tidalwav1when I try to boot ubuntu from the grub menu11:23
bad_mongoJohansson, apt-get install menueditor11:23
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tidalwav1no idea, huh?11:23
mello_you have 2 harddrives?11:24
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Johanssonbad_mongo, i already searched it, apt can't find it11:24
tidalwav1mello_ yes11:24
mello_if so, just install hoary on the slave and it'll automatically install the grub booter itself11:24
Johanssoni use universe and multiverse too11:24
mello_winXP works fine11:25
tidalwav1mello_ I did11:25
mello_and hoary doesn't work.. weird11:25
tidalwav1GRUB is installed on the MBR of the SLAVE11:25
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tidalwav1not the master11:25
bad_mongoJohansson, sudo apt-cache search menueditor11:25
bad_mongothat works for me11:25
mello_tidalwav1: i have my harddrives on cable select if that makes any difference11:25
thegreedyturtleI've had problems with detecting a hard drive that wasn't my primary master before11:25
Johanssoni'm already as root11:26
Johanssonstill can't find it11:26
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tidalwav1what exactly IS cable select?11:26
bad_mongoweird..11:26
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tidalwav1oh, and I tried changing access type for the slave drive to LBA and large in the bios settings but still nothing.11:26
Johanssonmaybe there aren't packages for amd6411:26
dcaballeroi want install projector in my amd 64 wide screen11:27
andrekanyone here use ubuntu and msi bluetooth dongle?11:27
mikecoevil bluetooth11:27
thegreedyturtletidalwav1: your ide cable has three plugs on it, one for the motherboard, and two for your drives. the one furthest away is the master, the one in the middle is the slave. when you have cableselect jumped, it sets master and slave automatically depending on which plug you used11:27
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chimaerahi..11:28
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tidalwav1well, it should be fine...I have it plugged into the middle and the jumpers are set as slave.11:28
chimaerais there a helper-app/skript to set up a wifi usb stick or do i have to do this manually?11:28
tidalwav1I could try cable select, but I don't think it will make a difference, the BIOS recognizes that HD as slave.11:29
dcaballeroi think must install 2 driver 1 to widescrenn and 2 to projector11:30
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SQL_Samcan you be logged into two servers at once on x-chat?11:31
dcaballerowhere i see drivers11:31
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TestDummySQL_Sam: I am right now :P11:31
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SQL_Sami cant seem to connect to anything but ubuntu?11:31
TestDummyDo X-Chat > New > Server Tab11:32
drspinI was able to get booted back into my system and most things seem to be normal --11:32
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mcquillgHow does one install something like ssh server _not_ from the CD? (I don't have my CD with me).11:32
TestDummyThen type in "/server (whatever)"11:32
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drspinusb 1-1: hald timed out on ep0in ???11:32
SQL_Sami've done that11:32
TestDummyAnd it doesn't work?11:32
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SQL_Samyah - it tries to connect and times out11:33
rolf_mcquillg: comment out the lines that contain "cdrom" in /etc/apt/sources.list11:33
TestDummyTry another server perhaps?11:33
mcquillgrolf_, thanks.11:33
djm62mcquillg: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:33
drspinusbhid: probe of 1-1:1.0 failed with error -511:33
drspin???11:33
drspinEvaluate _OSC Set fails. Status = 0x000511:33
drspinpciehp: add_host_bridge: status 511:33
drspinpciehp: Fails to gain control of native hot-plug11:33
TestDummySQL_Sam : Are you doing /server irc.(whatever.xxx) or the actual server?11:33
SQL_Sami've tried /server irc.mozilla.org11:34
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SQL_Samtrying /server dalnet now...11:34
TestDummyAh... hmm..11:34
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mcquillghmm, port 25 is open by default on an Ubuntu install?11:34
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TestDummyHm, I connected just fine... wonder what's up with you..11:35
tidalwav1well, has anyone had experience with the program bootpart to make ntldr boot ubuntu?11:35
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LinuxJonesmcquillg, all ports are open by default :)11:35
SQL_Samhow do I check that - im noob11:35
rerundjones u there?11:35
mcquillgLinuxJones, right, but not all ports have services on them.11:35
TestDummy?11:36
LinuxJonesmcquillg, must be something out of universe installed11:36
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TestDummyI don't have to but perhaps the port needs to be specified??11:36
mcquillgyeah, I'm curious, but I don't know the ubuntu setup well enough to figure out what's installed without using the synaptic packagemanager.11:36
tbirddpkg -l11:37
SQL_Sami've tried /server irc.mozilla.org/6667 and still nothing11:37
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mcquillgtbird, thanks.11:37
dataw0lf|wall ports are open.11:37
LinuxJonesmcquillg, lsof -i will tell you all services running11:37
tbird /server irc.mozilla.org 666711:37
dataw0lf|wbut all ips are denied (ala hosts.deny)11:38
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SQL_Sam* Looking up irc.mozilla.org11:38
SQL_Sam* Connecting to irc.mozilla.org (1.0.0.0) port 6667...11:38
SQL_Sam* Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out11:38
SQL_Sam Cycling to next server in irc.mozilla.org...11:38
SQL_Sam* Disconnected ().11:38
SQL_Sam* Looking up irc.mozilla.org11:38
SQL_Sam* Connecting to irc.mozilla.org (1.0.0.0) port 6667...11:38
SQL_Sam* Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out11:38
LinuxJonesmcquillg, that require a network connection that is11:38
SQL_Samthat is what i'm getting11:38
Ironfrosthi - I'm trying to kill a program that is not responding11:38
djm62Ironfrost: kill -9 $PID11:38
munki1.0.0.0 port 6667 even ?11:38
IronfrostI try 'kill programname' but it tells me arguments must be process or job IDs11:38
Ironfrostwhat is $PID?11:38
dataw0lf|wpkill programname11:38
IronfrostI type that as is?11:38
djm62Ironfrost: pkill programname11:38
steve_Ironfrost: if its in a window environment can use xkill11:39
IronfrostOK11:39
djm62Ironfrost: no, sorry, that's shorthand11:39
FlyingSquirrel32what's a good prog to show a slideshow of pictures?11:39
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Ironfrostthe pkill worked, thanks a lot11:39
Ironfrostwhat is an example of something I should substitute for $PID if I need to use that?11:40
SQL_Samwhat should i be looking at to get this thing working?11:40
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: gthumb has a slideshow mode11:40
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munkiIronfrost : if you use "px aux" you can see what programs you are running and the pid #11:40
Ironfrostmunki - thanks11:41
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djm62Ironfrost: if you type 'ps aux' and find your process in the list, you can see the PID11:41
TestDummySQL_Sam : Can you even ping them?11:41
TestDummyEr, I mean, do you get any results. Not with xchat I mean, just doing in terminal11:41
SQL_Sami'll try that11:41
munkiSQL_Sam : 1.0.0.0 is a very ... ehm.. weird ip11:42
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TestDummyTry the actual IP?11:42
FlyingSquirrel32djm62 : that's perfect thanks11:42
cens0redhey is there an app for linux that'll play rmvb files?11:42
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b2sheh, 1.0.0.0 is a bogon last time I checked.11:43
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: if you want to do a presentation, openoffice will do it, and there is a standalone app to play them11:43
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TestDummyMy other guess is you could try doing "/server 207.126.111.200" , which leads to mecha.mozilla.org, from what I got11:43
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SQL_Samyah it pings11:44
TestDummyWhat about the other thing?11:44
SQL_Sami get 207.126.111.20011:44
TestDummyWell, try seeing if "/server 207.126.111.200" will connect you then11:44
SQL_Samwholly crap11:44
SQL_Samjust worked11:44
stazichhey, has anyone noticed performance differences using the different themes provided by gnome in Warty?11:44
TestDummyHmm11:44
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TestDummyI've had this problem before11:45
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TestDummyMy DNS was bad... or something11:45
TestDummyCould only connect using exact IP's11:45
drspinstazich: the less pretty the theme... the faster things will render typically ;)11:45
TestDummyNot names.11:45
TestDummyOdd..11:45
SQL_Samthat sucks11:45
TestDummyYeah, especially since I had to know the IP's to everyting I wanted to use.11:45
slappy18q/quit11:45
SQL_Samwere you able to figure out what the problem was?11:45
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TestDummyAnd if I didn't, couldn't use it.11:45
TestDummyNope, I had to wait until they resolved it11:45
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TestDummyEr, yeah11:45
TestDummyMy friend said it was a DNS problem.11:46
drspinstazich: if you're concerned about speed try using XFCE instead of GNOME11:46
mello_how do i save a text file with nano?11:46
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stazichyeah11:46
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SQL_Samokay i got my dns up....11:47
TestDummymello_ : I've found it easiest to hit Alt+M to turn on the mouse, click Exit and say Yes to the prompt..11:47
SQL_Sami got 192.168.0.1 and 205.171.3.6511:47
mello_thanks =] 11:47
JStrikeI see Mergeant isn't the repo's. (Or Glom for that matter), Can anybody recommend something similar11:47
melodiehello to all :)11:47
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melodieI've got an error message when selecting a pilot for the printer11:47
melodiecan someone help about it ?11:48
SQL_Sami did some reading on this and dont think 192.168.0.1 does anything - my isp is the 20511:48
melodieMissing asterisk in column 1 at 1:'/usr/share/ppd/HP/HP-PSC_1210-hpijs.ppd.gz'11:48
TestDummyUh..11:48
SQL_Samhmmm....  should i be crazy and take it out?11:48
TestDummyIsn't that a loopback address?11:49
JStrikehrm...I see Mergeant used to be in there for previous releasesm but not for Breezy11:49
SQL_Samlol - hell if I know I'm noob11:49
SQL_Samhehe11:49
melodiesomeone knows where I can find useful info to browse for the printer ?11:49
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IronfrostI see Mergeant isn't the repo's. (Or Glom for that matter), Can anybody recommend something similar  <--  I see it on mine. Did you enable the extra repositories?11:49
cens0redwhat's helix-player like?11:50
syndhey guys, i cant hear any sound with Flash11:50
melodieunder Hoary :)11:50
syndin mozilla11:50
JStrikeIronfrost : Yes, but I dont think it is in the breezy repo's yet11:50
Ironfrostmelodie - system > administration > printing11:50
melodieyes11:50
djm62cens0red: it's gtk2, mostly open-source (NOT free) but it seems to be a bit "hinky" in hoary11:50
Ironfrostah, OK, I'm just on hoary11:50
JStrikecens0red : Good. Totem is better11:51
cens0reddjm62 vas does "hinky" mean?11:51
djm62cens0red: but it plugs into firefox ok :-/11:51
melodiethen I selected the pilot then I got the message:11:51
syndanyone have any idea why flash has no sound in firefox?11:51
cens0redwell if it's the same thing as totem, but totem does a better job ... I won't bother with it.11:51
djm62cens0red: it plays files ok, but seems a bit unresponsive/slow to update11:51
melodieMissing asterisk in column 1 at 1:'/usr/share/ppd/HP/HP-PSC_1210-hpijs.ppd.gz'11:51
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djm62synd: esd is probably taking up the soundcard11:52
synddjm62: hm?11:52
melodieIf no one knows I 'll go on the bug report :)11:52
melodiewhat esle ?11:53
melodieelse11:53
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hybridhello ubuntite11:53
hybrid^s11:53
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djm62synd: pkill esd11:55
djm62then try11:55
tidalwav1I'll try again: anyone have experience with bootpart and ntldr?11:55
djm62none here11:55
tidalwav1I'm having dual-boot problems11:55
synddjm62: ok, i did pkill esd.. xmms stopped11:55
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Elsidoxis it just me or can everyone not see text in the flash player for firefox?11:58
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syndElsidox: well, i cant hear sound11:58
Elsidoxsynd, did you try switching your sound system to alsa?11:59
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syndElsidox: i havent..11:59
Elsidoxsynd, theres a guide that shows u how to on the forms11:59
Elsidoxsynd, if possible you should =)11:59
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syndElsidox: you dont have the URL do ya?11:59
Elsidoxsynd, u can hear multipule sounds at once 2 =)12:00

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