[12:00] <Marko01> Hi guys sorry to bug. Kind of new and really don't want to use the Word Microsoft in this chat but here it goes. Is there a way to have Identities setup in Evolution much the same as Outlook Express, where email from two seperate accounts does not go in the same Inbox.
[12:00] <Guga> dcraven, then what after uninstalling nvidia-common-kernel?
[12:00] <thr1ce> nad, nevermind, got her :)
[12:00] <thr1ce> these codecs should work in totem too right ?
[12:00] <dcraven> Guga, I'm sorry. I am unfamiliar with SIS chips... I wouldn't think the nvidia modules are in order though. I'd restart X after uninstalling them.
[12:00] <nad> thr1ce: theres an faq regarding adding gpg keys (why these problems?)
[12:00] <ishkabob> yeah looks like it
[12:01] <ishkabob> all of them say that it is used by 0
[12:01] <Guga> ok, dcraven.  cross your digits
[12:01] <whnp> Marko01, you can either use filters ... or use vfolders
[12:01] <thr1ce> nad, will totem recognize these codecs ?
[12:01] <dcraven> Guga, good luck :)
[12:01] <ompaul> Marko01, you can write lots of rules to do stuff like that
[12:01] <nad> should
[12:01] <whnp> either way just set it to filter based on the recipient
[12:01] <Marko01> Would I hav to do this via command line?
[12:01] <dcraven> brb
[12:01] <whnp> Marko01,
[12:02] <tcwd> Can someone help me with making my sound work?  I'm a n00b to linux in general.
[12:02] <Guga> blender 3d still won't work, dcraven
[12:02] <tcwd> The driver is installed...
[12:02] <tcwd> and I checked the volume... its not muted...
[12:02] <tcwd> what could the problem be?
[12:02] <beh> ishkabob: try doing modprobe -r sbp2 modprobe -r ohci1394 modprobe -r ieee1394
[12:03] <Shufla> hello :D
[12:03] <ishkabob> k
[12:03] <ishkabob> one second
[12:03] <beh> then re starting them by doing modprobe sbp2 modprobe ohci1394 and modprobe ieee1394
[12:03] <whnp> Marko01, , nope ... just go to tools -> filter editor inside evolution
[12:04] <krusbjorn> g'night
[12:05] <Shufla> rotfl. i'm reading user friendly :D as tech-support worker and coder that comic-book is great :D
[12:05] <Marko01> Cool the thing is I have two emails I just want them both to have there own inboxes. I thank your for your time and effort.
[12:05] <Abood> guys, iv got proplem with sound, when i try to open Totem on a move; it told me Error: Alsa Device "Default" is already in use by another program . ??? any idea ?!
[12:07] <ishkabob> k
[12:07] <ishkabob> i did all those things
[12:07] <whnp> Marko01, if you sort the emails into their own "Inboxes" you can do this with a filter run when the mail comes in
[12:07] <ishkabob> i plugged in the ipod
[12:07] <ishkabob> nothin
[12:07] <ishkabob> oh wait
[12:07] <Marko01> Okay I already have an account setup for marko01 and mail is coming in from my provider.
[12:08] <enplo> is there something like chkconfig in ubuntu?
[12:08] <nad> emplo: no, not yet
[12:08] <Marko01> Now I want to setup Evolution to pull mail down from the same provider using an account on the server called testm.
[12:09] <ishkabob> ok yeah
[12:09] <ishkabob> nothing
[12:09] <nad> ishkabob: tail /var/log/messages
[12:09] <enplo> nad: ok thanks
[12:10] <ishkabob> Apr 20 17:10:35 localhost kernel: sbp2: $Rev: 1219 $ Ben Collins <bcollins@debia n.org>
[12:10] <ishkabob> Apr 20 17:10:46 localhost kernel: ohci1394: $Rev: 1223 $ Ben Collins <bcollins@d ebian.org>
[12:10] <ishkabob> Apr 20 17:10:46 localhost kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:08.0[A]  -> GSI 5 ( level, low) -> IRQ 5
[12:10] <ishkabob> Apr 20 17:10:46 localhost kernel: ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.1 (PCI): IRQ=[ 5]   MMIO=[ef001000-ef0017ff]   Max Packet=[2048] 
[12:10] <ishkabob> Apr 20 17:10:48 localhost ieee1394.agent[9047] :      eth1394: blacklisted
[12:10] <transgress> grar... freaking nvidia driver won't work in 1280x800
[12:10] <nad> ishakabob: yea, i thought the 1394 module was blacklisted
[12:10] <ishkabob> what exactly am i looking for?
[12:10] <ishkabob> what does that mean?
[12:11] <Rav> I have a question regarding dependencies
[12:11] <enplo> one more question. what kernel parameter should i use so that kernel messages are not printed during boot-up?
[12:12] <Rav> One of my programs called for libstdc++6 and it apparently exists for i386.. however the subinfo it getsis apparently (4.0-0pre6ubuntu7)
[12:12] <nad> enplo: install usplash for a boot screen splash image
[12:12] <Rav> Am I looking at anew kernel here?
[12:12] <transgress> the driver is set to `1280x800... but i have about 3 inches of blackness if i use the nvidia xorg.conf
[12:12] <nad> ishkabob: i'm not familiar with ipods, check the forums
[12:13] <enplo> nad: oh, i didn't know usplash was ready yet. thanks, i'll try it out
[12:14] <ishkabob> ok, does anyone else have any ideas about my blacklisted 1394 module?
[12:14] <HrdwrBoB> ishkabob: looks like it's trying to load firewire ethernet?
[12:14] <beh> ishkabob: sometimes it just stays on the charging screen and doesnt go to the do not disconnect screen, i just modprobe -r those 3 modules then re modprobe them until it works. sometimes it takes more than one try
[12:14] <HrdwrBoB> stuff is weird
[12:14] <nad> enplo: it's not packaged yet, go to sourceforge. works fine i hear.
[12:16] <ishkabob> k thanks for all your help
[12:17] <transgress> do the marillat packages work with ubuntu?
[12:17] <SeamusLP> Indeed they do
[12:18] <nad> transgress: 1280x800? is this a widescreen lcd?
[12:18] <transgress> nad:  yeah it's a 15.4 lappy
[12:18] <nad> good luck with the nVidia driver
[12:19] <transgress> nad: heh well others have their's working... i just can't heh
[12:19] <Rav> Hmm still hoping is someone can answer my question regarding (4.0-0pre6ubuntu7)
[12:20] <nad> transgress: the codecs are just libraries, put them in the right spot, voila
[12:20] <transgress> nad:  wouldn't be willing to tell me where to put them wouldya?
[12:20] <transgress> wanna be able to play some of my dvd's
[12:21] <johan1> hello everybody
[12:23] <nad> trangress: /usr/lib/your app/some place
[12:25] <suix> hi
[12:26] <suix> I've problems on playing music with gstreamer
[12:26] <nakata> don't we all...
[12:27] <nakata> the gstringer plugin for amaroK seems to have a hard time crossfading
[12:27] <suix> well it plays music so fast
[12:29] <nad> bye all. the kids wanna eat.
[12:32] <usual> hi
[12:32] <j^3_> hi usual
[12:32] <jcole> how do i make cp copy hidden files/dirs?
[12:33] <beh> jcole are you talking about dirs that start with a dot
[12:35] <jcole> beh: ya, i want to include them in my cp -r
[12:41] <Juhaz> cp -r already copies hidden files
[12:44] <nekohayoo> is there a way to specify the locale to use for a specific user? (for example, have an user have every program in french, or spanish?)
[12:45] <kerframil> nekohayoo: have you tried exporting LANG?
[12:45] <eaon> isn't that done on login through gdm?
[12:45] <kerframil> assuming that you're _not_ using gdm of course ;)
[12:45] <nekohayoo> no, I am.. I just didn't really think of this.. since I'm using fast switching applet
[12:45] <nekohayoo> but it would be cool to have it.. .defaulted
[12:46] <kerframil> nekohayoo: well, gdm let's you choose the language (on a per-user basis) and optionally set it as the default for that user, or just for the session
[12:46] <kerframil> what more could you want?
[12:46] <transgress> would anyone know where the .deb package of libdvdcss2 from marillat installs to?  i'm trying to add the library to totem
[12:47] <speel> Hey hoary is complaining about the nvidia kernel module anything i can do?
[12:47] <nekohayoo> kerframil, if I choose that language to be default, on the gdm login (on TTY8, since it's fast user switched..), will it be on a per-user basis?
[12:47] <kerframil> nekohayoo: yes, I believe so
[12:48] <transgress> ah i found it
[12:48] <nekohayoo> kerframil, I'll give it a try, hold on :)
[12:49] <johan2> I wan't to change the spelling suggestions from swedish to English?
[12:49] <johan2> Im using Gaim
[12:50] <johan2> Can somebody help me?Are total newbe
[12:50] <johan2> :)
[12:50] <stego> Hi, does anyone know why the guide comments out Marillat's sources when installing mplayer and then uncomments them? Apt now tells me it's 'holding back' mplayer-386 every time I do an upgrade.
[12:51] <nekohayoo> kerframil, it works, it's so amazing! :) that's why I love linux. Thanks for the quick advice ^^ the gnome panel was not "translated" however, I believe this may be fixed by killing it?
[12:52] <LinuxJones> johan2, you want to change the default languge that Gnome uses ?
[12:52] <kerframil> nekohayoo: hmm, worth a shot: kill -HUP `pidof gnome-panel`
[12:52] <squinn> oy. I hate it. My wireless adapter works with Warty, not so much Hoary.
[12:53] <stego> kerframil, why not: killall gnome-panel
[12:53] <johan2> LinuxJones: oh I see, I have to change in gnome!!
[12:53] <kerframil> stego: if you want to be pedantic then why not: killall -HUP gnome-panel
[12:53] <kerframil> ;)
[12:53] <LinuxJones> johan2, you jsut wnat to change to english in gaim... or every application (gnome) ??
[12:54] <LinuxJones> johan2, sorry do you want :(
[12:54] <zoldar> has anybody got problems with gvim ?   when i change font, the screen doesn't refresh itself during scrolling, i have to do it by hand with ctrl+L... ??
[12:54] <johan2> LinuxJones: Sorry no I don't want to change defult language only the spelling help.
[12:55] <stego> kerframil, or even: killall -s HUP gnome-panel.
[12:55] <LinuxJones> johan2, ahhh like myspell or something ?
[12:55] <stego> kerframil, *that's* pedantic
[12:55] <kerframil> stego: indeed
[12:56] <LinuxJones> johan2, aspell should be installed by default you will probably want to goto console and type sudo apt-get install aspell-en
[12:56] <nekohayoo> kerframil, nope, didn't change anything.. I'll see on next reboot maybe
[12:56] <nekohayoo> thanks again
[12:56] <kerframil> nekohayoo: hmm, ok
[12:57] <Owl^> ubuntu rox!
[12:57] <Owl^> umm... sorry. :D
[12:57] <Owl^> felt like saying it... because it's true.
[12:57] <johan2> LinuxJones: okej will try!
[01:03] <tweek> manworld
[01:03] <pr3vi0uz>  sup poeple
[01:03] <tweek> lol
[01:03] <tweek> manaworld*
[01:03] <pr3vi0uz> wow?
[01:03] <tweek> worst typo :\
[01:03] <pr3vi0uz>  hehe
[01:05] <pr3vi0uz>  isnt kubuntu the same distro as ubuntu? cause a couple of programs wouldn't run  in gnome but on this kde everything  works ?
[01:06] <limer> is there a burning program that installs by default with ubuntu?
[01:06] <transgress> is it 1280x960 that has the proper ratio?
[01:06] <|QuaD-> limer: cdrecord
[01:06] <limer> cli?
[01:07] <transgress> brb
[01:07] <|QuaD-> uhuh
[01:08] <limer> |QuaD-: I will have to learn more cli burning apps :P  in the meantime, is there a good frontend?
[01:08] <|QuaD-> limer: i am sure there is
[01:08] <Nermal> nautilus, k3b, gnomebaker, xcdroast ?
[01:08] <limer> I didn't realize nautilus could be used as a frontend Nermal, thx :D
[01:08] <Nermal> if you insert a blank cd / dvd nautilus will open at burn:/// for you
[01:10] <les_> i have 3 linux systems on a network, 1 fc2, 1fc3 and ubuntu 5.04.  I have a usb printer conntected thru a usb print server.  I can print for both fc boxes but cannot print from ubuntu, although i can configure using ipp. any suggestions?
[01:10] <CB201> hey guys...what logfile is best for use with root-tail?
[01:10] <LinuxJones> limer, I like graveman and gnomebaker
[01:10] <Nermal>  /var/log/messages?
[01:10] <limer> thx LinuxJones
[01:11] <squinn> weird semi-on-topic question
[01:11] <squinn> best windows cd burner
[01:11] <Nermal> nero ?
[01:11] <squinn> i've got to burn warty again, that's why
[01:11] <pr3vi0uz> lol
[01:11] <Quest-Master> ack
[01:11] <Quest-Master> I hate Nero :(
[01:11] <tweek> :\
[01:11] <justinf> knoppix live cd - it has k3b on it
[01:11] <slappy17> ive been usin nero, lately
[01:11] <Quest-Master> It fails EVERY SINGLE TIME it tries to burn something
[01:11] <tweek> nero isnt that bad
[01:12] <squinn> Well, here's what happened to me.
[01:12] <slappy17> alcohol?
[01:12] <Quest-Master> And my CD Burners on Linux have NEVER failed
[01:12] <pr3vi0uz>  so does Kubuntu
[01:12] <slappy17> ya xcdroast is nice
[01:12] <squinn> I've just burnt my Hoary CD from Gentoo which is obsolete.
[01:12] <slappy17> ahh..gentoo..
[01:12] <slappy17> emerge gentoo
[01:12] <squinn> And I now realize Hoary's kernel is non-compatible with my wireless adapter.
[01:12] <slappy17> can i apt-get install gentoo?
[01:12] <squinn> yep,
[01:12] <justinf> gentoo - wait 3 days for kde to compile... serious wastage of electricity...
[01:12] <slappy17> nice
[01:13] <slappy17> use the -p
[01:13] <squinn> it will install a window manager
[01:13] <slappy17> they have portage and source
[01:13] <transgress> justinf: took me about 6 hours to compile
[01:13] <slappy17> in fact, their dvd has most of the portages on it
[01:13] <transgress> justinf: and just because you don't use it, doesn't mean you have to try to make it seem superior.
[01:13] <justinf> transgress -> i did use it...
[01:13] <chavo> justinf, takes less than a day to build entire KDE.
[01:13] <slappy17> fight! fight!
[01:13] <transgress> did being the keyuword justinf
[01:14] <chavo> I do it and I'm running kubuntu.
[01:14] <transgress> justinf: it's kind of like ex girlfriends... you say a lot more shxt when you aren't with them anymore
[01:14] <tweek> "fight! fight!"
[01:14] <justinf> transgress -> but i thought my cpu had better things to be doing than emerge -compile...
[01:14] <pr3vi0uz>  im just wondering if kubuntu is the sister of ubuntu how come no one talks  in that channel lol
[01:14] <slappy17> lol tweek
[01:14] <slappy17> lets egg them on
[01:14] <tweek> yea
[01:14] <slappy17> HEY! HE CALLED YOU A JERK!
[01:14] <slappy17> you gunna take that?
[01:14] <tweek> !
[01:14] <tweek> seriously?!
[01:14] <slappy17> i love religion
[01:14] <slappy17> hell ya, hee did!
[01:15] <transgress> justinf: i'm sure you do some seriously hardcore worthwhile things that emerge just got in the way of
[01:15] <slappy17> ya!
[01:15] <tweek> oneone!
[01:15] <justinf> transgress -> not really. i dont get the ex girlfriend thing. i just think that gentoo is an utter waste of time.
[01:15] <slappy17> emerge -k...good stuff
[01:15] <slappy17> well, you dont like source, but it has portages
[01:15] <slappy17> you dont have to compile everything
[01:16] <justinf> transgress -> do a google for "gentoo is rice".. says it all
[01:16] <tweek> source is fun! :}
[01:16] <slappy17> and! its python..YAY!
[01:16] <slappy17> you racists
[01:16] <tweek> rice isnt racist
[01:16] <tweek> ricers
[01:16] <transgress> justinf: i've seen it... but perhaps you should realize the fact that linux was built around custom compiling.
[01:16] <slappy17> what!? it sisnt
[01:16] <slappy17> heh
[01:16] <justinf> nah - thats just the website.not me.
[01:16] <johan2> LinuxJones: aspell-en was already installed. In openoffice I am abel to shift between SWE and EN (the F7 key or in the menu)
[01:17] <slappy17> HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
[01:17] <slappy17> GENTOO IS FOR RICERS!?!?! LOL
[01:17] <tweek> rapeh4x
[01:17] <slappy17> dood.
[01:17] <slappy17> thats lame
[01:17] <johan2> Gaim don't give me what option?:(
[01:18] <justinf> transgress -> i know. compiled my first kernel in 1998. couldnt be arsed now -i just want to get on with stuff and do some work for my clients.
[01:18] <tweek> NiN-closer
[01:18] <tweek> :}
[01:18] <transgress> i am by no means advocating gentoo over other distro's... however, there is no point in arguing over distros and putting one below another.
[01:18] <slappy17> --usepkg (-k)
[01:19] <slappy17>     Tells emerge to use binary packages (from $PKGDIR) if they are available, thus possibly avoiding some time-consuming compiles.
[01:19] <transgress> i use gentoo, ubuntu, slackware, and freebsd...
[01:19] <slappy17> man emerge
[01:19] <transgress> slappy17: that's true... there are packagecd's...
[01:19] <slappy17> ya, we're trolls...meanwhile this channel is app support
[01:19] <justinf> transgress - i know - i'm a jaded warrior from the red hat versus debian days during the dotcom boom... and lets not mention the gnome versus kde verus fluxbox versus icewm flamewars!
[01:19] <slappy17> nothing troll'ish there
[01:20] <tweek> hehehe@trools
[01:20] <tweek> troll
[01:20] <slappy17> dood..its all icewm
[01:20] <slappy17> no windowmaker?
[01:20] <slappy17> an vi
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> transgress: there's a lot of point, one needs a way to discern what to install
[01:20] <tweek> babies?!!
[01:20] <slappy17> so why are you guys forking w/ ubuntu?
[01:20] <transgress> HrdwrBoB: huh?
[01:21] <tweek> ubuntu is great i use it in both my machines
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> you need to rate distros (at least personally) for your purpose in order to decide what you want to run
[01:21] <tweek> (but not hoary) ;)
[01:21] <justinf> you gotta try enlightenment - first tried it back in 99 and i still cant figure it out... serious hackerish window manager though.
[01:21] <transgress> and let's keep in mind... things may take up cpu on gentoo, but things take up a lot more ram on ... iuno... distro's based around the modularized kernel concept...
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> transgress: do you know what you're talking about?
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> what on earth do you mean
[01:21] <transgress> distro's are made different to fit different needs... that doesn't make one better or worse
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> if it's modularised
[01:21] <slappy17> ya it does
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> it means the modules aren't used, they aren't loaded
[01:22] <justinf> transgress - if my cpu is being used up , i just drop back to icewm/flux etc.. its no big deal.
[01:22] <b2s> transgress: lol, its not THAT much more ram.  barely any at all
[01:22] <slappy17> redhat sucks entierly
[01:22] <slappy17> what good is redhat?
[01:22] <tweek> none?
[01:22] <slappy17> right!
[01:22] <slappy17> and they make me use fedora at work...-=sigh=-
[01:22] <Edgan> slappy17: Red Hat as a company, RHEL, Fedora, or all of the above?
[01:22] <transgress> how is it i get more shit for advocating no distro over another than those who are whoring for a single distro
[01:22] <b2s> slappy17: redhat is perfectly fine.  maybe it just isn't ideal for your particular situation.
[01:22] <slappy17> all of the above
[01:22] <justinf> redhat are totally off my radar screen...
[01:23] <transgress> ima go back to freebsd now... catch you guys later
[01:23] <slappy17> dood...it hasnt been ideal in 4+ years, b2s
[01:23] <tweek> 9.2 blew
[01:23] <slappy17> and yum w/ fedora.. and apt!? what a JOKE!
[01:23] <justinf> freebsd - cool... like their ethos and stuff.. good luck with it!
[01:23] <tweek> i used it for a while
[01:23] <Edgan> slappy17: I have liked Fedora, but they are beginning to do more things that annoy me. I am looking at moving to Ubuntu.
[01:23] <slappy17> its all still broken
[01:23] <b2s> heh, tweek you didn't like redhat 9.2?  me either ;)
[01:23] <slappy17> yep!  i cant yum upgrade without dependency issues
[01:23] <tweek> :|
[01:24] <tweek> whuteva
[01:24] <slappy17> the best release of redhat was 7.1 where up2date had a mem leak..that was my favorite
[01:24] <b2s> slappy17: I've never had any dependancy issues with yum/up2date under rhel
[01:24] <slappy17> what!?
[01:24] <Edgan> slappy17: you might try smart, it is kind of like a hybrid between apt and yum, and can supposedly resolve dependecies across conflicting repos
[01:24] <slappy17> you're joking
[01:24] <slappy17> Edgan: thanks for the tip..ill try
[01:24] <Edgan> slappy17: My favorite was rh8 with the rpm hang issue
[01:24] <justinf> up2date - *shiver* - dont remind me.... pure hell...
[01:24] <slappy17> ahh...good one
[01:25] <slappy17> and everything under 7....when wuftp was default installed! AWESOME!
[01:25] <slappy17> because you all know how secure wuftp is
[01:25] <slappy17> ya, redhat is great
[01:25] <Edgan> slappy17: Others used wuftpd at the time. vsftpd which Red Hat uses now was written in house, I think.
[01:25] <justinf> still - thats not as bad as linspire "everything runs as root"
[01:26] <slappy17> well..linux distros stuck w/ wu...
[01:26] <slappy17> did slackware?
[01:26] <MacIver> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   4522 2005-03-23 19:53 proftpd-1.2.10-i486-2
[01:26] <Edgan> I used Slackware before Red Hat. The lack of good package management is why I moved away from Slackware.
[01:26] <b2s> slappy17: people still use slackware?
[01:27] <Edgan> b2s: hehe, yeah
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> b2s: masochists mainly
[01:27] <slappy17> ya..they do
[01:27] <b2s> I used that back in '96...
[01:27] <MacIver> dropline ;-)
[01:27] <slappy17> dood!! People who think Gentoo rules because they can't use RPM properly
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> b2s: same
[01:27] <slappy17> bah
[01:27] <slappy17> that website is full of lies
[01:27] <justinf> btw, installed warty on an old iMac over the weekend... bit slow - but it worked..
[01:27] <tweek> later :}
[01:27] <MacIver> slappy17: eh?
[01:27] <zoldar> can anybody recommend some 2-pane style graphical file manager ? something like midnight commander but in x ...?
[01:27] <slappy17> konq
[01:27] <slappy17> heh
[01:28] <justinf> zoldar - konqie
[01:28] <Edgan> does dpkg have something that is equivlent to rpm -V or rpm -Va?
 that website is full of lies <--what website?
[01:28] <zoldar> i has 2-pane layout ?
[01:28] <zoldar> it
[01:28] <slappy17> gentoo is rice
[01:28] <zoldar> ok thanks
[01:29] <Edgan> gentoo is fine as long as you are willing to wait for the compiling to finish
[01:29] <eaon> slappy17: it's a /joke/
[01:29] <slappy17> edgan...dood..-k
[01:29] <b2s> Edgan: the problem I have with gentoo isn't the compile times (well, the main problem) its that things break during upgrades
[01:29] <Edgan> slappy17: dpkg -k packagename?
[01:30] <slappy17> emerge -k package
[01:30] <MacIver> "I essentially started using Gentoo because my ....ing KDE clock would never show the right time in Red Hat."
[01:30] <Edgan> b2s: Isn't that true with upgrades of anything other than maybe debian stable?
[01:30] <justinf> edgan - i installed gentoo (full source compile) on a 400 mhz desktop over 3 days - and i swear to god, Ubuntu, or rather Kubuntu ran faster... now, if i was a kernel hacker , i could have made Gentoo run faster, but i'm not. it's all a bit of hype in my view.
[01:30] <r4nd0m1di0t> working out of the box is uncommon 4 gentoo
[01:30] <Edgan> justinf: hehe
[01:31] <b2s> Edgan: no.  the majority of my systems use rhel, and they don't break at all during upgrades.  of course, most of the packages are custom, but thankfully rpms are trivial to patch and rebuild
[01:31] <b2s> hopefully ubuntu will be as good about upgrades and rhel, and I'll switch to that.
[01:31] <r4nd0m1di0t> yeah u have to use the right flags
[01:32] <Edgan> b2s: yeah, I looked into ubuntu as a server. It seems to have as many packages in main as rhel.
[01:32] <b2s> er "as rhel, and I'll switch to this"
[01:32] <justinf> this might seem like  a weird question, but in the real world ,are you people noticing more and more folks using Linux? I'm certainly noticing it.. and i dont think its being picked up in those "surveys" of usage that we see all the time...
[01:32] <b2s> Edgan: I don't think it has as many packages as main... rhel is like 4 CDs, not 1.
[01:33] <Edgan> b2s: main isn't everything on the cd
[01:33] <Edgan> b2s: just the default install
[01:33] <b2s> Edgan: ah, how big is main then?
[01:33] <Edgan> b2s: like 1300 packages
[01:33] <Edgan> b2s: where as rhel is like 1400-1500
[01:34] <b2s> hmm.  I kept finding myself having to add universe for lots of packages... though this happens to be on my desktop.  I don't know how it will be on servers.
[01:34] <johan2> LinuxJones: It is not only me how have this problem:( http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7891.html
[01:34] <Edgan> b2s: yeah, but I found myself adding lots of packages from repos under redhat
[01:34] <Edgan> b2s: ubuntu has postfix, apache2, php, dovecot, cyrus-imapd, etc in main
[01:35] <Edgan> b2s: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <r4nd0m1di0t> red hat ... dunno why, but it makes me think of a rubber
[01:35] <b2s> Edgan: the only packages I added under rhel were courier-mta and pure-ftpd, both of which are in universe on ubuntu
[01:36] <LinuxJones> johan2, that sucks I am sure it will be fixed asap :)
[01:36] <Edgan> b2s: what other services do you use in redhat? That you would want in ubuntu main?
[01:36] <verden01> Hi
[01:37] <b2s> Edgan: I just installed my laptop with ubuntu about 3 days ago, so I haven't had much time to really plan out that sort of thing.
[01:38] <Edgan> b2s: I installed it in my laptop the other day. It is nice. It didn't go so well on a junk desktop I tried it on.
[01:40] <johan2> LinuxJones: Yes it is importent for me to have.  I can't spell so good in English:(
[01:40] <johan2> LinuxJones: Thank you anyway.. I will ask everybody hera ones:-P
[01:42] <dts> how can i install esddsp?
[01:43] <nickrud> dts it's in esound-clients
[01:43] <nickrud> or somthing like that :)
[01:43] <transgress> anyone use checkinstall with ubuntu?
[01:43] <cnez0red> arg! Why do I get all these system freezes? It never used to happen with mandrake.
[01:44] <SQL_Sam> does mozilla come with flash player installed?
[01:45] <Tuxicity> SQL_Sam, follow instructions on ubuntuguide.org
[01:45] <mjr> SQL_Sam, no, due to restrictions placed by macromedia; see above
[01:45] <SQL_Sam> sweet!
[01:45] <SQL_Sam> I did install it then!
[01:45] <SQL_Sam> yipee i did something right!!!
[01:46] <SQL_Sam> i was trying to install if for konqueror though....
[01:46] <CB201> 'lo
[01:46] <johan2> Everybody!!  I have a problem and  the same problem are in the forum not solved. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7891.html
[01:47] <transgress> anyone know of another program that would work like checkinstall?
[01:47] <dts> nickrud, ok let me try that
[01:47] <dts> yep works
[01:47] <CB201> I get the following error when I try to run a program: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: no such file or directory
[01:47] <johan2> Some heroes in here?:'(
[01:47] <SQL_Sam> does konqueror have a flash player?
[01:47] <nickrud> SQL_Sam, you can try the flashplayer-mozilla in multiverse
[01:48] <slappy17> im a hero
[01:48] <nickrud> It's always worked for me, but I have heard of people it doesn't work for
[01:48] <johan2> slappy17: sounds good:)
[01:50] <transgress> herm i may put x86 on this box instead of amd64... missing so many packages bleh
[01:51] <dts> dennis@dennis01:~/python/test$ esddsp -m skype
[01:51] <dts> /dev/dsp-1: No such file or directory
[01:51] <dts> /dev/dsp-1: Connection refused
[01:51] <djm62> autochthon!
[01:51] <dts> ?
[01:51] <CB201> I get the following error when I try to run a program: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: no such file or directory
[01:51] <CB201> can anyone help?
[01:52] <CB201> I don't know where I can instlal that lib file from
[01:52] <Pluk> trying to install maya?
[01:52] <CB201> me? no...
[01:52] <dts> CB201, can you run synaptic?
[01:52] <CB201> dts, yes...it's not there
[01:52] <dts> synaptic?
[01:52] <slappy17> johan2: sorry, i dont know about that aspell-no
[01:52] <SQL_Sam> i cant seem to connect to irc.mozilla.org? anyone else have problems?
[01:52] <slappy17> its not in any gaim doc?
[01:52] <mjr> CB201, I once ran into that, and did a really ugly thing that worked for me but that you really shouldn't do
[01:53] <CB201> dts, at least, it's not in synaptic under that name
[01:53] <mjr> namely, created the following symlink in /usr/lib:
[01:53] <mjr> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 -> libstdc++.so.6
[01:53] <dts> CB201, did you try installing the libs with aptget
[01:53] <dts> apt-get
[01:53] <Pluk> maybe symlink libstdc++-lib6.2.2.so.3 to libstdc++6.so.x in /usr/lib
[01:53] <Pluk> doh too late
[01:54] <CB201> dts, yes...that file is definitely not in any repositories. see for yourself.
[01:54] <cnez0red> hey gl graphics keep screwing up my system. Anyone else have that problem?
[01:54] <CB201> mjr, that sounds a bit dangerous
[01:54] <Tuxicity> CB201, did you compile this prog yourself?
[01:54] <mjr> CB201, good ;)
[01:55] <LinuxJones> johan2, Good Luck :)
[01:55] <slappy17> does it invoke aspell directly?
[01:55] <slappy17> can you just symlink aspell to aspell-no?
[01:55] <CB201> Tuxicity, all I did was untar it
[01:55] <slappy17> that sounds really lame typing it out
[01:55] <nickrud> heh
[01:56] <Tuxicity> CB201, which prog is it?
[01:56] <XandriX> hi slappy17
[01:56] <johan2> slappy17:It's ok checking in the gaim doc now:-/
[01:56] <nickrud> johan2, maybe the gaim site has a work around
[01:56] <ShadowRage> does warty have any known issues with a dell optiplex GX1?
[01:57] <CB201> Tuxicity...it's a game called N
[01:57] <CB201> http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/n.html
[01:57] <ShadowRage> does warty have any known issues with a dell optiplex GX1?
[01:57] <transgress> is there an ubuntu package for ndiswrapper?
[01:57] <slappy17> hi Xandri
[01:57] <ShadowRage> it cant detect a cdrom on bootup
[01:58] <ShadowRage> EVEN THOUGH that's the medium it's using
[01:59] <ShadowRage> dell optiplex GX1 with 96 mb of ram
[01:59] <johan2>  slappy17: Im a linux newbe. What is symlink aspell to aspell-no?
[01:59] <Juhaz> transgress, ndiswrapper-utils, the kernel module is in the base ubuntu kernel
[01:59] <ShadowRage> anyone know?
[01:59] <slappy17> ah, its basicly a "symbolic/soft" link that points to another file
[01:59] <slappy17> its a file that points to another file
[01:59] <slappy17> through the file system
[02:00] <slappy17> there are also hard links that point to the file but in a different manner, you could say that it is even the same file with a different name
[02:00] <johan2> nickrud: Im cheking now..
[02:00] <slappy17> hardlinks are restricted to filesystems but symlinks dont care..
[02:01] <nickrud> johan2, see if they have any kind of bugzilla or other buglist
[02:01] <slappy17> well, how does gaim invoke aspell
[02:02] <ShadowRage> dell optiplex GX1 with 96 mb of ram
[02:02] <ShadowRage> does warty have any known issues with a dell optiplex GX1?
[02:02] <nickrud> I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure it's separate from gnome's, or at least was
[02:02] <slappy17> strace ?
[02:02] <slappy17> ldd gaim?
[02:02] <johan2> slappy17:sorry I can't follow you
[02:02] <nickrud> not that interested :)
[02:03] <slappy17> lol
[02:03] <slappy17>         libaspell.so.15 => /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15 (0x04931000)
[02:03] <slappy17> ldd from gaim
[02:03] <Rima> if your running kernel 2.6.x and need to compile a module for 2.4.18 - is it possible to do this without having a running kernel of 2.4.18?
[02:03] <transgress> okay how do i use that ndiswrapper-utils... i can't find that in a search with synaptic... don't have a program for it...
[02:04] <nickrud> besides, I stopped programming before I knew anything  of unix execpt that the phone lines ran on it
[02:04] <nickrud> don't think that way :)
[02:04] <slappy17> im a crappy hero
[02:04] <slappy17> ;)
[02:05] <transgress> could it be i don't have ndiswrapper because i'm on amd64 ubuntu?
[02:05] <Tuxicity> Rima, I suppose you'd need the the 2.4 kernel headers though (just a guess)
[02:05] <b2s> transgress: I'm on amd64 using ndiswrapper...
[02:05] <b2s> transgress: I didn't use the packages from apt-get though, because they didn't work for me.
[02:05] <kakalto> how can I convert ogg to mp3?
[02:06] <b2s> transgress: I downloaded the tar.gz from the main webpage, and compiled it myself (make deb)
[02:06] <Rima> Tuxicity, hmm I have done it before just can't remember how I did it - and opting for the quickest way possible lol
[02:06] <kakalto> anyone?
[02:06] <transgress> b2s:  thanks for the tip
[02:06] <transgress> b2s:  what card are you using  by chance
[02:06] <a2t3> kakalto: convert to wav and next convert to ogg, stupid method ;)
[02:06] <kakalto> no
[02:06] <kakalto> ogg ----> mp3
[02:06] <nickrud> kakalto, yeah, I've seen a package for it somewhere
[02:06] <kakalto> or ogg -----> wma, if that's easier
[02:07] <Tuxicity> kakalto, for your portable player, right?
[02:07] <kakalto> yup
[02:07] <nickrud> was thinking about going mp3 --> ogg
[02:07] <kakalto> ya
[02:07] <a2t3> kakalto: convert to wav, next to mp3
[02:07] <mjt> whatever ---> whatever -- it's always whatever --> wav --> whatever
[02:07] <b2s> transgress: I'm using a broadcom wifi-g adapter
[02:07] <kakalto> ah
[02:08] <transgress> b2s:  you wouldn't have a 64bit driver i could gank from you would you?
[02:08] <mjt> just don't forget that converting one lossy format to another means the quality is lost more and more on each conversion
[02:08] <kakalto> so, how do I convert ogg to wav?
[02:08] <mjt> oggdec
[02:08] <b2s> transgress: its available for download somewhere on the web... let me go look
[02:08] <johan2> slappy17: thank you for the time anyway. You couldn't solve the problem or?
[02:08] <CB201> ls -l libstdc
[02:09] <Tuxicity> kakalto, probably Audacity can do such convertions
[02:09] <transgress> hehe some guy is on the help channel for work and asking us why he can't access our site... he seems to have gotten his IP blacklisted for something
[02:09] <dts> has anyone gotten esddsp towork?
[02:09] <a2t3> kakalto: use sox
[02:09] <johan2> slappy17: I could not follow you are totaly new to linux
[02:10] <kakalto> a2t3, whenever I try sox, it goes to a prompt
[02:10] <kakalto> and I don't know what to do
[02:10] <hypno> kakalto or ogg123 file.ogg | lame - file.mp3
[02:10] <a2t3> kakalto: rtfm ;)
[02:10] <johan2> johan2: must go and drink a coffe:-P
[02:10] <kakalto> a2t3, the man is always too hard to understand
[02:10] <kakalto> hypno, thanks
[02:11] <kakalto> it never works!
[02:11] <b2s> transgress:  http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/drivers.php
[02:11] <MasterChief_113> um hi
[02:11] <kakalto> it always just goes to a new line with ">"
[02:11] <hypno> kakalto that's not quite right
[02:12] <kakalto> is there just a GUI app for encoding/decoding?
[02:12] <kakalto> audacity?
[02:12] <kakalto> does that work?
[02:12] <Tuxicity> kakalto, Audacity is an audio editor. It should do that and more I guess
[02:12] <Huey> does anyone know why debian and ubuntu use inetd over xinetd?
[02:12] <Huey> what advantages does it have?
[02:12] <kakalto> Tuxicity, thanks
[02:12] <Huey> or is there some long mailing list i should be reading through?
[02:13] <lukewarm> Huey, it's easier to spell
[02:13] <b2s> transgress: also, when you get the ndiswrapper tarball, you'll need to edit the control files in the debian directory to change the arch from i386 to amd64
[02:13] <hypno> kakalto this works: ogg123 file.ogg -d au -f - | lame - file.mp3
[02:14] <nickrud> huey, try the debian bug list for inetd, you'll probably find a long thread, anyway
[02:14] <GammaRay> hypno: that's pretty lame :-P
[02:15] <hypno> i get it
[02:15] <hypno> ;p
[02:16] <martin> I need help with ATI drivers
[02:16] <martin> Have unusual problem
[02:16] <MasterChief_113> i just downloaded the debian linux cd 1 at my college to day and extracted the files with an iso program then painstakingly transfered all the files to my apple laptop, then to my home pc... then i burned all the files to a new cd-wr, i put it in an older computer, and type e:\install\boot.bat but it says Syantax error, then it goes thru all the kernals, and says bad direcrtory or file blah blah blah... any idea sorry for ho
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> MasterChief_113: troll
[02:17] <transgress> umm umm umm umm... does ubuntu not install gcc?
[02:17] <MasterChief_113> huh/
[02:17] <hypno> transgress install build-essential
[02:17] <MasterChief_113> ?*
[02:18] <Tuxicity> MasterChief_113, perhaps #debian would be more appropriate?
[02:18] <kakalto> hypno, that command doesn't work
[02:18] <MasterChief_113> u mean the version?
[02:18] <kakalto> hypno, you know why
[02:18] <kakalto> ?
[02:18] <Tuxicity> transgress, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:18] <kakalto> I don't have lame installed
[02:18] <transgress> ubuntu freaks me out heh
[02:19] <transgress> linux w/o gcc..
[02:19] <zhukov_> hello
[02:19] <zhukov_> can anyone please explain me why i get permission denied whe i run this:
[02:19] <zhukov_> sudo splash -s -f /etc/bootsplash/themes/current/config/bootsplash-1024x768.cfg >> initrd.img-2.x.x
[02:19] <resiak> transgress: In other words, like just about every Debian-derived distro?
[02:19] <martin> ----------Is there anyone that has ati mobility 9600 that has it working under ubuntu??
[02:20] <MasterChief_113> hmmm
[02:20] <transgress> resiak: this is the only debian derived distro i've used... used debian for a while, but got tired of slow updates...
[02:20] <a2t3> martin: DRI do not work with this card, check ATI drivers
[02:20] <transgress> hey b2s: did you have to do anything special to install ndiswrapper from source on 64bit?
[02:21] <zhukov_> anyone...
[02:21] <a2t3> martin: if you want 3D support, 2D should work
[02:21] <nickrud> MasterChief_113, if what you said is true, you are total screwed, I think. It's so outrageous, it sounds unbelievable
[02:21] <ShadowRage> how do I redo the ubuntu setup?
[02:21] <MasterChief_113> lol
[02:21] <Juhaz> zhukov_, because sudo only runs "splash"
[02:21] <ShadowRage> what command was it?
[02:21] <Juhaz> zhukov_, redirection is done with user permissions
[02:21] <martin> a2t3: DRI? I have installed latest ATI 8.12.10 drivers, get 2D and 3D, but 3D is "laggy"
[02:21] <kakalto> what's the command to convert wav to mp3?
[02:22] <kakalto> wav2mp3 <file> <file> ?
[02:22] <hypno> lame file.wav file.mp3
[02:22] <zhukov_> so how can i solve it?
[02:22] <a2t3> martin: dri.sf.net  but it works only with old ati cards
[02:22] <resiak> transgress: Debian itself is exactly the same wrt build-essential
[02:22] <kakalto> hypno, thanks
[02:22] <Juhaz> try sudo sh -c "splash -s -f /etc/bootsplash/themes/current/config/bootsplash-1024x768.cfg >> initrd.img-2.x.x"
[02:23] <transgress> bleh... ndiswrapper is giving me all kinds of hell
[02:23] <Juhaz> windows driver special hell, now available for linux users!
[02:24] <a2t3> ;)
[02:24] <transgress> heh i haven't gotten to the driver part of it yet
[02:24] <transgress> i'm growing increasingly tempted to just install 32bit ubuntu on to here
[02:25] <nickrud> kakalto, there's a script on http://home.wanadoo.nl/cchq/conmen/conmen.html . Maybe you could take a look at that for some ideas
[02:26] <b2s> transgress: heh. not for me. I got amd64 working, and I'm keeping it that way
[02:27] <transgress> b2s: what did you do to get ndiswrapper to compile?  it tells me that amd64 is not a build option
[02:28] <b2s> transgress: that's that last bit I said...
[02:28] <b2s> transgress: also, when you get the ndiswrapper tarball, you'll need to edit the control files in the debian directory to change the arch from i386 to amd64
[02:29] <b2s> they are control, control.modules, control.source, control.utils
[02:30] <zhukov_> thats it, ive enough of bootsplash!Theres no way i can get this working in ubuntu
[02:30] <zhukov_> thanks Juhaz
[02:30] <transgress> b2s:  awesome.  thanks.
[02:31] <b2s> transgress: let me know if you have any problems, since I'm going to be repeating this a few more times for some friends who have similar hardware
[02:31] <Tuxicity> b2s, that would be a good thing to add to the wiki, no?
[02:31] <transgress> what do i apt-get for my kernel headers?  apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[02:32] <b2s> Tuxicity: maybe.  I don't know anything about the wiki :)
[02:32] <transgress> heh well once i get this done i'll write one up for wiki then
[02:32] <b2s> actually, I wonder why ndiswrapper-1.1 isn't available standard.  aside from having to compile it and adjust the arch, it seemed to work quite easily.
[02:33] <b2s> transgress: if you don't have kernel headers, you might need to get those too
[02:33] <OddChild> i am about to finish my 4 day download to get off XP on to linux... be glad when it is running
[02:33] <Tuxicity> transgress, good attitude :)
[02:33] <transgress> b2s: heh that's what i was asking... what's the command to get those... like apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[02:34] <b2s> transgress: looks plausible
[02:35] <gpled> what is a good command line mp3 player, that i can apt-get?
[02:36] <Juhaz> mpg321
[02:36] <scott> anyone else have problems with links in evolution not opening in firefox? I click the links and right click open in browser and they don't open
[02:36] <b2s> speaking of kernel headers, does anyone know why package linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-k8 provides version "2.6.10-34" (instead of -5)
[02:37] <gpled> etz: Package mpg321 has no installation candidate :(
[02:38] <transgress> scott: change the default browser in the gnome controls?
[02:38] <Tuxicity> scott, maybe you need an ijnstance of Firefox already running, justa guess
[02:38] <Juhaz> doh, looks like it's in universe
[02:38] <transgress> scott: if so did you put firefox %s? or just firefox
[02:38] <nickrud> system->preferences->preferred applications
[02:38] <gpled> Juhaz: how do i set universe?
[02:38] <gpled> :)
[02:39] <DoppelGanger> scott: you call tht a problem
[02:39] <DoppelGanger> go back to windows
[02:39] <transgress> wow i got ndiswrapper built... thanks b2s... i'll write that wiki and give you loads of credit
[02:39] <transgress> hey b2s... do i only do make deb?  or make deb install or what?
[02:40] <gpled> i have sound, but xmms cant see it :(
[02:40] <Juhaz> gpled, add it from synaptic->settings->repositories or modify sources.list by hand
[02:40] <transgress> ah i got it
[02:41] <Juhaz> gpled, and you might want to read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats for rest of things that are left out from base repositories because of legal reasons
[02:41] <XTC> zup people.... :)
[02:42] <gpled> Juhaz: thanks for the tips
[02:43] <transgress> okay driver installed... now to see if it works
[02:44] <XTCboarder> dude.... where did the startterscript go?
[02:45] <XTCboarder> anybody know?, it's a 404 from the ubuntuforums' site.....
[02:45] <transgress> okay i can't modprobe ndiswrapper now that i have it installed
[02:46] <transgress> b2s:  did you have any problems with it after you got it installed?  i installed it, chose the .inf, and tried to modprobe... did i forget something?
[02:46] <DoppelGanger> ah dependency
[02:46] <transgress> ah i found out why
[02:46] <transgress> it says i have an invalid driver
[02:46] <DoppelGanger> another sign of being unable to fuckinggoogleit.com
[02:47] <transgress> grr... it's not a .inf... it's the .sys... should that matter?
[02:48] <XTCboarder> does anybody have the starter script for hoary 5.04? the one that a guy posted at ubuntuforums?
[02:49] <goldfish> nope
[02:49] <transgress> does anyone know how i could pull the freaking files from the hp .exe?  w/o wine...
[02:49] <XTCboarder> :(
[02:49] <b2s> transgress: you need both I think...
[02:49] <GammaRay> starter script?
[02:49] <GammaRay> transgress: tru unzip
[02:49] <GammaRay> transgress: try unzip
[02:49] <b2s> what driver are you using?  not broadcom wifi-g?
[02:49] <goldfish> XTCboarder: he has a link to it on that post
[02:50] <XTCboarder> GammaRay,  a script that installs useful stuff
[02:50] <XTCboarder> goldfish, the link is broken now :(
[02:50] <slappy17> unzip works on exe?
[02:50] <goldfish> ah right
[02:50] <b2s> slappy17: if the exe is a zip self extractor
[02:50] <goldfish> you could install them yourself :)
[02:50] <XTCboarder> 20:45:18 ERROR 404: Not Found << :(
[02:50] <transgress> b2s:  i have an hp that has an integrated broadcom...
[02:50] <slappy17> ahh
[02:50] <Tuxicity> XTCboarder, is that the same as MrBass.org Quick Install Script?
[02:50] <b2s> transgress: the generic broadcom didn't work for you?
[02:50] <GammaRay> slappy17: depends.. a lot of exes are really self extracting zips
[02:50] <XTCboarder> let's see.....
[02:51] <transgress> okay so these two differently named drivers go together?
[02:51] <transgress> maybe that was my prob
[02:52] <XTCboarder> it's not :(
[02:52] <transgress> b2s:  ah nice now it has driver present and hardware present on ndiswrapper -l
[02:52] <transgress> and modprobe worked
[02:52] <transgress> woohoo
[02:52] <b2s> transgress: cool
[02:53] <transgress> what's a good aptable prog to see if i can look for networks with it?
[02:53] <XTCboarder> Tuxicity, have you tried that script?
[02:53] <Tuxicity> XTCboarder, sorry no, I did all manually
[02:54] <XTCboarder> 'k.....
[02:54] <transgress> guess i'll go with kismet
[02:55] <transgress> ah nice as far as i can tell it is working
[02:55] <transgress> but i live in the boonies where there are no wifi connections... and i don't use wireless
[02:55] <transgress> so i guess i'll find out later
[02:56] <comfrey> anyone know the best card to work with kismet?
[02:57] <b2s> transgress: if you can see it under System -> Admin -> Networking, then it is perfect
[02:57] <comfrey> i would prefer something with g support
[02:57] <comfrey> but i suppose i could just go with a prism2 or so...
[02:57] <xfSx> hey guys, just noticed that samba file sharing doesn't seem to work.. if i /etc/init.d/samba restart i get a restart [fail] , i've looked at smb.conf.. how come the default doesn't work?
[02:58] <transgress> b2s:  i see it
[02:59] <SeamusLP> xfSx:  Have you tried /etc/init.d/samba start ?
[02:59] <monkey89> what's the proper way to add birthdays and anniversaries to evolution?
[02:59] <xfSx> [fail] s
[03:00] <|QuaD-> anyone here use jabber?
[03:00] <transgress> |QuaD-: i do
[03:00] <SeamusLP> xfSx:  I don't know what's going on.  I'm running hoary and the default samba is fine.
[03:00] <|QuaD-> transgress: do you know a lot about the different gtk clients?
[03:01] <transgress> |QuaD-: that i don't really like them... best one i've found is probably psi... but gaim is okay if you don't want to use encryption, and gabber was probably my favorite after psi
[03:01] <transgress> |QuaD-: but gabber hasn't been updated in ages
[03:01] <|QuaD-> transgress: everyone talks about psi, i hate qt though
[03:01] <xfSx> well i can browse and read off the network, but my share's aren't showing up.. i've reinstalled samba through synaptic and still nothing.. some of the forums talk about smbpasswd to get it working.. i'm bamboozled
[03:01] <abarbaccia> im missing a codec to playback AVI files-  anybody know the package name?
[03:02] <transgress> |QuaD-: well umm... get over it?
[03:02] <|QuaD-> transgress: you try gossip or gush?
[03:02] <xfSx> abarbaccia, tried vlc?
[03:02] <b2s> |QuaD-: I just use gaim to connect to jabber
[03:02] <transgress> |QuaD-: nope... after going through and finally landing on psi i have stuck with it
[03:02] <transgress> i like to be able to use encryption with jabber outside of gaim encryption
[03:02] <SeamusLP> abarbaccia:  I'd use vlc or totem-xine for that.  totem-gstreamer probably won't cut it.
[03:02] <transgress> b2s: can i have your jabberID?
[03:02] <|QuaD-> transgress: hmmmm
[03:03] <|QuaD-> transgress: you don't want my jabber id???? how rude!
[03:03] <|QuaD-> :)
[03:03] <b2s> heh
[03:03] <abarbaccia> thanks all - i appreciate it - vlc did the trick!
[03:03] <SeamusLP> xfSx:  I wish I could help, don't really know much about samba though
[03:03] <|QuaD-> do you knoww of any with gui frontend and cli frontend?
[03:03] <transgress> |QuaD-: are you on jabber just yet?
[03:04] <SirFunk> blah, i can't wait for mono/beagle on amd64!
[03:04] <nekohayo> um, anyone having problems with dead keys in openoffice2?
[03:04] <|QuaD-> transgress: not really :)
[03:04] <|QuaD-> transgress: i was kidding
[03:04] <nekohayo> it just started recently without apparent reason
[03:04] <xfSx> ok that's cool i know the answer's out there in the forums somewhere ;0
[03:04] <spiderworm> how would i tell synaptic to ignore broken packages for now?
[03:04] <transgress> |QuaD-: i have foresight hehe... but you can have mine... it's transgress@jabber.unoc.net
[03:04] <XandriX> jdub is not there isint he
[03:04] <XTCboarder> how do i restart network interfaces?
[03:04] <|QuaD-> transgress: i don't have jabber yet, when i do, you will be my first jabber friend
[03:05] <|QuaD-> transgress: do you use the aim transport?
[03:05] <sladen> XTCboarder: sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0
[03:05] <XandriX> XTCboarder, ifconfig interfacename stop ifconfig interfacename start
[03:05] <xfSx> does anyone know where i can get those cool widgets that show you disk / mem / cpu / net usage on your desktop?
[03:05] <transgress> |QuaD-: nope... i have aim running on my other box that i let people leave me messages on and i check every 5 or 6 days
[03:05] <|QuaD-> transgress: lol
[03:05] <nekohayo> xfSx, gkrellm or gdesklets
[03:05] <|QuaD-> i want to know if they support file transfer
[03:05] <nekohayo> or superkarama for kde
[03:05] <xfSx> nekohayo, thanks
[03:05] <transgress> i hate aim
[03:06] <nekohayo> no one having dead dead keys?
[03:06] <transgress> i do use the msn transport though because my sister uses msn
[03:06] <nekohayo> :P
[03:06] <SeamusLP> XTCboarder:  /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart  just to be different ;)
[03:06] <XTCboarder> thx
[03:06] <|QuaD-> transgress: does it support file transfer?
[03:06] <transgress> |QuaD-: the msn transport does support send files most of the time
[03:06] <transgress> it's quarky but it usually works
[03:06] <|QuaD-> transgress: what bout recieve?
[03:07] <transgress> yeah
[03:07] <nekohayo> gaim improved a lot lately
[03:07] <|QuaD-> transgress: and it supports things like buddyicons, etc?
[03:07] <nekohayo> yes
[03:07] <transgress> yeah gaim has direct connect, but it's bugged if you are behind a router
[03:08] <transgress> |QuaD-: psi and gabber don't... gaim does
[03:08] <|QuaD-> transgress: ok
[03:08] <transgress> people... are... retarded...
[03:09] <transgress> i ask this guy for his domains so i can update his dns on our webservers at work... all he says is "sure" and doesn't give me his domains
[03:09] <|QuaD-> transgress: lol
[03:10] <xfSx> what's the easiest way to automatically dial in my speedtouch usb modem on boot (need to call it from an rc after hotplug?)
[03:10] <Edgan> squirrelmail should be in main :\
[03:11] <xfSx> thank you pleesh
[03:15] <XTCboarder> what's the name of this app used to test opengl suport?
[03:15] <XTCboarder> glx....?
[03:15] <jp> guys I think libgnome-cil is broken 'cause I can't install it. I have main and universe, before ?ve installed it, now I can't ... any ideas?
[03:15] <xfSx> gears
[03:15] <XTCboarder> thx
[03:16] <xfSx> np
[03:16] <Edgan> xfSx: glxinfo is also useful
[03:16] <xfSx> i get 8000
[03:16] <xfSx> hehe
[03:16] <XTCboarder> !!
[03:16] <XTCboarder> i got 130 :(
[03:16] <XandriX> night all
[03:17] <XTCboarder> nite
[03:17] <jp>  libgnome-cil: depends of: libgda2-1 (>= 1.1.99) but it's not installable
[03:17] <jp> :(
[03:17] <xfSx> installed nvidia driver (if u got 1)
[03:17] <xfSx> nn
[03:17] <jp> that package is broken :/
[03:17] <XTCboarder> i'm onto that right now....
[03:17] <XTCboarder> i just installed this box from scratch
[03:17] <xfSx> coll synaptic's the trick
[03:17] <XTCboarder> i'm configuring
[03:17] <XTCboarder> yeah
[03:17] <xfSx> ;)
[03:17] <xfSx> do u know what's the easiest way to automatically dial in my speedtouch usb modem on boot (need to call it from an rc after hotplug?)
[03:17] <XTCboarder> but i wanna have all the packages and all configs set before reboot
[03:18] <nekohayo> dead keys with openoffice2, anyone ^^?
[03:18] <cnez0red> Hey I just installed fluxbox and fluxconf using apt-get. If I press ctrl+alt+backspace, will the login screen now have the option to use fluxbox?
[03:18] <nakata> isn't that already on the forums?
[03:18] <nakata> (speedtouch usb on-boot)
[03:18] <nekohayo> cnez0red, why don't you give it a try?
[03:18] <XTCboarder> i dunno
[03:18] <xfSx> nakata, lemme check
[03:19] <nakata> ouais: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26017
[03:19] <cnez0red> nekohayo because it means losing my my current desktop session - unnecessarily if that's the case.
[03:19] <nekohayo> it's THAT important? XD
[03:20] <nekohayo> sorry I don't know
[03:20] <nekohayo> it did for XFCE though
[03:20] <holycow> good captive ntfs information --> http://blog.badri.us/badriram/archive/2005/01/05/155.aspx
[03:21] <cnez0red> should brb
[03:28] <transgress> install build-essentials would include a c++ compiler as well right?
[03:28] <ShadowRage> how do I redo the ubuntu setup?
[03:28] <transgress> well i do have it installed... but psi is being dumb and can't find it
[03:29] <transgress> ShadowRage: with the install cd?
[03:29] <ShadowRage> no
[03:29] <ShadowRage> the program on disk
[03:29] <mjc_> anyone have any luck with mythtv on amd64? client segfaults for me
[03:29] <ShadowRage> also, why is ubuntu having issues detecting the cdrom on that comp?
[03:30] <housetier> transgress whats the error message from psi?
[03:30] <GammaRay> ShadowRage: you can reconfigure packages w/ dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[03:30] <ShadowRage> it's an optiplex GX1 with an i440 chipset
[03:30] <ShadowRage> GammaRay: like.. when you first run ubuntu after installing from CD, that thing.
[03:31] <transgress> housetier: i found it... it needed qt-mt-dev or whatever instead of qt-dev
[03:32] <GammaRay> ShadowRage: hoary?
[03:32] <transgress> housetier: wouldn't know where to get QCA 1.0 would you?
[03:32] <ShadowRage> GammaRay: warty
[03:33] <ShadowRage> *is waiting for hoary from the shipit thing*
[03:33] <XTCboarder> what's the diference between haory and warty?
[03:33] <SeamusLP> ShadowRage:  Why not grab a hoary torrent?
[03:34] <ShadowRage> 56k.
[03:34] <rempresent> anyone want to help a brother install his ati card?
[03:34] <GammaRay> XTCboarder: updated packages like gnome 2.10. a gui for security updates
[03:34] <XTCboarder> ;D
[03:35] <housetier> transgress libqca1 - Qt Cryptographic Architecture - shared library
[03:35] <CitizenKane> does anyone know how to execute a .run file?
[03:35] <housetier> transgress also "apt-cache search qca" will show some other results that might be of interest as well
[03:35] <ewhitten> CitizenKane: well you... um nevermind. :)
[03:35] <GammaRay> XTCboarder: I doubt that's all :-P
[03:35] <rempresent> no one?
[03:35] <rempresent> anyone know about ati cards?
[03:36] <ewhitten> CitzenKane: first make sure it's executable (chmod +x filename)
[03:36] <XTCboarder> :p
[03:36] <ewhitten> rempresent:  I have a x800 pro installed.  what's up?
[03:36] <CitizenKane> ewhitten, ok
[03:36] <rempresent> ewhitten:  i have the same one, a radeon 9800pro
[03:36] <XTCboarder> em.. what's "webmedia" for?
[03:36] <ewhitten> CitizenKane:  from the directory the .run file is in, try doing:  sh ./filename
[03:36] <transgress> housetier: i get nothing with those searches
[03:37] <ewhitten> rempresent:  so you need help getting it setup?
[03:37] <rempresent> ewhitten:  i was just wondering what you did... i haven't updated ubuntu, i am still on the basic hoary installation... so i am ready to go with the installation
[03:37] <xfSx> xtc, what fps you getting now?
[03:37] <rempresent> ewhitten:  yeah, i would like some help, i want to get cedega running and WoW later on tonight
[03:38] <housetier> transgress maybe you need to erm... "activate" more repositories, universe or so
[03:38] <ewhitten> rempresent:  I made sure I installed the linux-restricted-modules package for my kernel version, then grabbed the fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx file
[03:38] <ewhitten> rempresent:  cool, I was doing the same thing on my laptop before I canceled WoW :)
[03:38] <rempresent> ewhitten:  slow down...
[03:38] <rempresent> ewhitten:  what should i go do first, and then i will go do that... do i need to enable universal repostitories
[03:38] <rempresent> ?
[03:38] <XTCboarder> xfSx i haven't rebooted
[03:38] <XTCboarder> i'm installing stuff....
[03:39] <rempresent> ewhitten:  is cedega good, worth the coin?
[03:39] <XTCboarder> i haven't even setup the video card on xorg.conf
[03:39] <bretzel> Q: Why running kde session, the fonts are all bigger than all others window managers ?
[03:39] <mjc_> rempresent, if you have a video card that doesn't suck, yes.
[03:39] <transgress> okay i uncomment the universe line and it tells me it can't load that repo because it doesn't exist
[03:39] <ewhitten> rempresent:  I'm not sure what repository the fglrx packages are in... I have universe/multiverse both enabled
[03:39] <mjc_> rempresent, ati's linux drivers perform miserably
[03:40] <ewhitten> rempresent:  ymmv with ati.
[03:40] <transgress> i get pretty much the same thing for any repo i ad
[03:40] <CitizenKane> ewhitten, it appears to be working thanks
[03:40] <ewhitten> mjc_:  exactly.
[03:40] <ewhitten> CitizenKane: glad to hear it.
[03:40] <rempresent> yeah, i got a 9800pro w/ 256mb of memory on the card... so i think that i will be fine
[03:40] <rempresent> ymmv?
[03:40] <ewhitten> mjc_:  I wish I had an nvidia again.. switched to x800pro for hl2 in windows
[03:40] <mjc_> rempresent, mine doesn't work very well
[03:40] <ewhitten> your mileage may vary
[03:40] <rempresent> alright, i will ject...
[03:41] <mjc_> rempresent, same card, most modern games are completely unplayable. blame ati
[03:41] <rempresent> really
[03:41] <ewhitten> yeah, their driver support is terrible.
[03:41] <rempresent> mjc_:  that sucks...
[03:41] <mjc_> yes
[03:41] <rempresent> but, can i get it to work at least, and play the games...?
[03:41] <Shado1> ya ati needs to fix that
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> ati SUCKs
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> imho
[03:41] <ewhitten> WoW may be doable... it's not too intense
[03:42] <Shado1> BAH ATI OWNEZ
[03:42] <rempresent> if not, i don't want to, but i can go pay for a windows installation and do that later...
[03:42] <ewhitten> children!
[03:42] <rempresent> yeah, i didn't think so
[03:42] <nomasteryoda> Shado1, er, right
[03:42] <rempresent> anyway, is there like a guide that you followed or whatever...
[03:42] <Shado1> :)
[03:42] <Shado1> i got most all my games to work in linux
[03:42] <GammaRay> like what?
[03:42] <ewhitten> rempresent:  www.transgaming.org forums... there's a forum just for WoW there
[03:42] <bretzel> (sorry for insiting: ) Q: Why running kde session, the fonts are all bigger than all others window managers ?
[03:43] <rempresent> nah nah nah, i mean for the installation of the ati card in ubuntu
[03:43] <ewhitten> bretzel:  you might want to try one of the kubuntu channels listed in the topic.
[03:43] <transgress> okay i added universe and multiverse... but still i get nothing when searching qca
[03:43] <GammaRay> Shado1: "yea.. ati ownz *you*"
[03:43] <ewhitten> bretzel: I'm guessing most people here are probably gnome users
[03:43] <Shado1> i got WoW and BF, and Rupublic Commando, and ya some other random games, DK2, and others
[03:44] <Shado1> GammaRay: lol
[03:44] <ewhitten> if only Worms 3D worked.  *sniff*
[03:44] <mjc_> WoW ran fine w/ my GeForce4 Ti 4600, doesn't run at all on my 9800 Pro under linux
[03:44] <mjc_> too slow
[03:44] <mjc_> dual opteron 242, 2GB RAM
[03:44] <rempresent> shoot
[03:44] <bretzel> ewhitten: oops -- yes -- I suck! Actually I am running gnome but sometimes I need to go KDE... okay, see you @kubuntu then... sorry
[03:44] <mjc_> stupid fricking card
[03:44] <rempresent> well, i would like to give it a go...
[03:44] <ewhitten> no harm in trying.
[03:44] <rempresent> i do have a geforce 4 440 mx...
[03:44] <rempresent> something like that...
[03:45] <mjc_> your 9800Pro's performance would be approximately equivalent to that GF4MX
[03:45] <dromedary> how do i get my nikon D70 to show up as a USB mass storage device?
[03:45] <rempresent> so then i shouldn't do anything.
[03:45] <dromedary> can i get it to work?
[03:45] <hypno> ewhitten i think the scorched3d game is pretty similar to 3d worms
[03:45] <mjc_> try it and see if you can live with it
[03:45] <rempresent> anyway, about installing the ati card... anyone have a guide
[03:45] <rempresent> ?
[03:46] <Shado1> hey, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, Toshiba Satilite A-10,  and the internet dosnt work, if i do ifconfig all i get is lo, my eth0 isnt there, if i do: ifconfig eth0 up , then it iwll be on the list but still no net
[03:46] <frank_> I had no idea the driver support from ATI for linux was horrible. Good thing I bought Nvidia!
[03:46] <dromedary> are there any guides or documentation dealing with digital camera support
[03:46] <mjc_> frank_, for amd64 for the longest time it was simply nonexistant
[03:46] <rempresent> yeah, you are a lucky one
[03:47] <mjc_> dromedary, try linux-usb.org
[03:47] <mjc_> sometimes they have links
[03:47] <frank_> I installed linux recently so I didn't miss it
[03:47] <rempresent> ewhitten:  where is a guide, or do you want to walk me through it?
[03:47] <transgress> it seems i'm still finding non-existant stuff for amd64... such as qca
[03:48] <ewhitten> rempresent:  I haven't seen a guide, but you might want to scroll up to the instructions I gave you above
[03:48] <rempresent> got it
[03:48] <ewhitten> rempresent:  also change the Driver "ati" line to Driver "fglrx" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:48] <ewhitten> rempresent:  sorry for being short, half dead with the flu. :)
[03:49] <GammaRay> so if ubuntu means humanity.. what does kubuntu mean?
[03:49] <dromedary> how do i switch to PTP mode? It says that's what i need to do with kernels 2.4 and later.
[03:49] <rempresent> alright
[03:49] <rempresent> thanks!
[03:49] <XTCboarder> khumanity ;D
[03:49] <ewhitten> humanity to lizards?
[03:49] <GammaRay> krappy humanity?
[03:49] <XTCboarder> i think it's ubuntu with kde
[03:50] <ewhitten> ;)
[03:50] <GammaRay> well I saw a lizard doing pushups. so there.
[03:51] <ewhitten> well, I saw one doing pushups too.  with no hands.
[03:51] <dromedary> how does one switch to PTP mode?
[03:52] <bob2> for your camera?
[03:52] <bob2> why?
[03:53] <shad0w1e> is there any way to roll back to hoary after upgrading to breezy?
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> checking for glib-config... /usr/bin/glib-config
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.2... no
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> glib is installed..
[03:54] <bob2> shad0w1e: no
[03:54] <bretzel> shad0w1e: breezy ?? There is already another next release working ?
[03:54] <bob2> no, it's not
[03:54] <shad0w1e> its beta
[03:54] <bob2> lsuactiafner: libglib1.2-dev
[03:55] <shad0w1e> oh ok ill just delete the partition and reinstall. I anyways just installed it and for a joke updated it to breezy
[03:55] <GammaRay> ewhitten: http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc99/2_27_99/bob2ref.htm
[03:55] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[03:55] <shad0w1e> I totally tried killing my linux yesterday and couldnt
[03:55] <bob2> lsuactiafner: also, install build-essential
[03:55] <GammaRay> ewhitten: http://galliform.bhs.mq.edu.au/lizard2/Behaviour/comm_pu.html
[03:56] <shad0w1e> ok thanks guys , peace
[03:56] <bob2> shad0w1e: note that breezy is undergoing large changes at the moment, and isn't ready for general users yet
[03:56] <bretzel> indeed - but where can I get infos about the features: working in progress and planned features in breezy ?
[03:56] <bretzel> hey bob2 :-)
[03:56] <ewhitten> GammaRay:   fine fine, you win :)
[03:57] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : one thing ubuntu needs is development tools installed by default
[03:57] <HrdwrBoB> lsuactiafner: because apt-get install build-essential is too hard?
[03:57] <bretzel> HrdwrBoB: :-)
[03:58] <bob2> lsuactiafner: corporates don't like it, it wastse space for normal desktop users, and instal;ling them by default still won't let you compile things
[03:58] <bob2> since just about any useful program will need a slew of other -dev packages, too
[03:58] <lsuactiafner> no HrdwrBoB : becuase apt-get install build-essential doesnt install everything someone needs to compile software himself.
[03:58] <frank_> lsuactiafner, Ubuntu is a user desktop primarily
[03:58] <bob2> lsuactiafner: you can't install " everything someone needs to compile software himself."
[03:58] <bob2> that's not possible
[03:58] <bob2> various -dev packages Conflict
[03:58] <pixil9> lol ubuntu as a colocated server
[03:59] <lsuactiafner> still, i feel i'm going nuts trying to get things to compile rather than using packages..
[03:59] <bob2> I have ubuntu on my mail and web werver
[03:59] <bob2> it works wonderfully
[03:59] <bob2> lsuactiafner: why are yo ucompiling to begin with?
[03:59] <bretzel> bob2: I agree because there are LOTS of pkgs to install for developping, thus if I know how to code basicly, I know and don't mind to download and install those pkgs ...
[03:59] <pixil9> Just use packages?
[03:59] <pixil9> wtf
[04:00] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : slackware has a loads of development tools, libraries and headers installed by default, sure if ubuntu is a desktop distrobution dont install by default.. but give ppl the option
[04:00] <bob2> lsuactiafner: sure, you do have the option to run synaptic post-install
[04:01] <bob2> you didn't see how much effort they put into cutting the number of install questions down
[04:01] <pixil9> I'd look at gentoo or FreeBSD if you want to use ports to compile your own packages
[04:01] <frank_> lsuactiafner, people can install whatever they want. build-essentials takes care of most things you need
[04:01] <bob2> they are *really* not going to add a "do you want five million dev packages installed?" question :)
[04:01] <transgress> woohoo got psi installed finally
[04:02] <lsuactiafner> it only takes care of the programming languages, not the headers and libraries
[04:02] <transgress> something i had run had my sources.list open and i couldn't get the other sources added
[04:02] <geargolem> would it make sense to change xserver to xfree86 for my chipset?
[04:02] <lsuactiafner> its more difficult to compile on ubuntu than it is on redhat.
[04:02] <frank_> lsuactiafner, then install everything under the sun. everything I needed was available
[04:02] <bretzel> Since December 2004, I think I've installed-reinstalled  and played and scrapped at least 10 times my ubuntu installations, thus I am a bit used to go synaptic for grabbing all dev tools I need and tell that it is lots of pkgs, but works very well and that is ok for me
[04:02] <lsuactiafner> ok i cant find libglib1.2-dev anywhere?
[04:03] <frank_> its there
[04:04] <bob2> libglib1.2-dev - Development files for GLib library
[04:04] <bob2> perhaps you didn't enable univer
[04:04] <frank_> lsuactiafner, so a name search in synaptic
[04:04] <bob2> wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:05] <geargolem> What would happen if I changed my kernel from xserver to xfree86
[04:05] <geargolem> ?
[04:06] <bob2> what do you mean?
[04:06] <frank_> geargolem, I don't understand your question.
[04:06] <pixil9> lol
[04:06] <pixil9> you mean change from xorg to xfree86?
[04:06] <pixil9> which has nothing to do with your kernel
[04:07] <TestDummy> Finally, I got it to install :D . Works pretty nice.
[04:07] <ice_1963> ok
[04:07] <geargolem> frank_ xfree86 supports the SIS driver, xserver does not
[04:08] <TestDummy> Er, but I'm forgetting. How do I mount an ntfs drive as read-only?
[04:08] <bob2> you're confused
[04:08] <pixil9> wtf is xserver?
[04:08] <pixil9> xorg you mean?
[04:08] <frank_> geargolem, you mean xorg does not?
[04:08] <rempresent> ewhitten:  alright, i just got done doing all that installing and i changed the line in my .conf file.. am i ready to do
[04:08] <bob2> xfree86 *is* an xserver
[04:08] <rempresent> anyone?
[04:08] <hexmode> hello?
[04:08] <pixil9> TestDummy, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdx /ntfs
[04:08] <pixil9> x being the partition #
[04:08] <TestDummy> Er, I mean
[04:08] <hexmode> can anybody recommend a good 802.11g pci card?
[04:08] <rempresent> can anyone help me with dual monitors?
[04:08] <TestDummy> Okay, I know it's hda1.
[04:08] <pixil9> well mkdir /ntfs or something
[04:09] <pixil9> and mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /ntfs
[04:09] <geargolem> no.  it uses nvidia instead frank_
[04:09] <TestDummy> And I remember when I tried out Kubuntu, I added a line to /etc/fstab (Or whatever its called) using nano.
[04:09] <pixil9> or just put it in /etc/fstab
[04:09] <TestDummy> What's the line?
[04:09] <pixil9> ya.
[04:09] <lsuactiafner> thanks found libglib now..
[04:09] <lsuactiafner> hope the compile works out now
[04:09] <rempresent> alright, i am just going to give it a go
[04:09] <rempresent> eh?
[04:09] <pixil9> /dev/hda1 /ntfs umask=0222,ro 0 0
[04:09] <hexmode> erm.... no recs.
[04:09] <pixil9> then mount -a
[04:10] <pixil9> oops
[04:10] <lsuactiafner> still same error
[04:10] <frank_> geargolem, SIS integrated graphics you mean? Youre sure xorg doesnt support it?
[04:10] <TestDummy> Er..
[04:10] <pixil9> /dev/hda1 /ntfs ntfs umask=0222,ro 0 0
[04:10] <bob2> lsuactiafner: remove config.cache
[04:10] <pixil9> /dev/hda1       /winxp          ntfs    umask=0222,rw 0 0
[04:10] <pixil9> that's mine
[04:10] <ShadowRage> how do I mount the cdrom in shell mode on the install cd?
[04:10] <pixil9> mount /cdrom
[04:11] <TestDummy> Er... /winxp ??
[04:11] <ShadowRage> pixil9: some reason, ubuntu isnt detecting the cdrom
[04:11] <TestDummy> I remember it being something else
[04:11] <ShadowRage> no one will answer why either
[04:11] <pixil9> TestDummy, Put it wherever the fuck u want
[04:11] <TestDummy> Oh
[04:11] <lsuactiafner> used clean source and did ldconfig, not working
[04:11] <bob2> ShadowRage: yes, it's a conspiracy
[04:11] <mebaran151> acidrip of dvdrip
[04:11] <frank_> geargolem, I just found that xorg supports sis so there is a way
[04:11] <pixil9> ShadowRage: it's not in dmesg?
[04:11] <mebaran151> which is better
[04:11] <FR500> hello
[04:11] <bob2> ShadowRage: or maybe you found a bug.  are you using hoary?
[04:11] <mebaran151> mencoder or transcoder
[04:11] <FR500> anyone uses cacti here?
[04:11] <mebaran151> and
[04:11] <rempresent> alright, now can i check my graphics driver... with the gears thing
[04:11] <rempresent> ?
[04:12] <mebaran151> how do output from evolution my addressbook
[04:12] <mebaran151> I need to do a reinstall
[04:12] <geargolem> frank_  how?  I'ved tried everything
[04:12] <ShadowRage> bob2: warty
[04:12] <mebaran151> because stuff got borked
[04:12] <ShadowRage> pixil9: hrmm
[04:12] <ShadowRage> forgot dmesg
[04:12] <TestDummy> Er... rw? I think read-only should work.
[04:12] <transgress> wow dvd's don't play too well
[04:12] <transgress> that sucks
[04:12] <XTCboarder> !!
[04:12] <XTCboarder> :(
[04:12] <mebaran151> anyway
[04:12] <XTCboarder> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:12] <XTCboarder> :(:(
[04:12] <bob2> ShadowRage: then get a hoary cd
[04:12] <mebaran151> anyone know how to make evolution output my addressbook
[04:12] <mebaran151> to like a 5 kb vcard file
[04:12] <rempresent> is this good: 1130 frames in 5.0 seconds = 226.000 FPS
[04:12] <mebaran151> like Knotacts does
[04:12] <bob2> XTCboarder: try to put a complete sentence on each line
[04:13] <rempresent> in glxgears
[04:13] <ShadowRage> easier said than done
[04:13] <bob2> XTCboarder: you have an nvidia or ati card?
[04:13] <XTCboarder> sorry
[04:13] <frank_> geargolem, I don't know exactly how but what does not work now? video acceleration? or nothing works at all?
[04:13] <XTCboarder> nvidia
[04:13] <bob2> XTCboarder: did you follow the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?
[04:13] <pixil9> ShadowRage, no go?
[04:13] <lsuactiafner> rempresent : try 6000 frames+-
[04:13] <pixil9> How can I submit a howto?
[04:14] <mebaran151> so anyone help me
[04:14] <XTCboarder> nope...
[04:14] <mebaran151> how do I export my addressbook from evolution
[04:14] <XTCboarder> let's read
[04:14] <bob2> pixil9: put it on the wiki
[04:14] <bob2> XTCboarder: try that
[04:14] <ShadowRage> pixil9: I'll look via dmesg
[04:14] <pixil9> o.
[04:14] <rempresent> isuactiafner: shoot...
[04:14] <mebaran151> Evolution doesnt give me good instructions
[04:14] <mebaran151> unless it will allow me to make an LDAP dataabase
[04:14] <mebaran151> which I dont know how to do
[04:15] <transgress> do you mount dvd's to play them or do you play them like audio cd's?
[04:15] <pixil9> I wanna put a unreal tournament 1 FAQ up for people who don't have CD2
[04:15] <rempresent> isuactiafner: did i install it correctly... i followed this guys instructions, installed like 3 packages, and now i am stuck with crappy framerates
[04:15] <pixil9> like me
[04:15] <bob2> transgress: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, either way
[04:15] <XTCboarder> !!
[04:15] <geargolem> frank_  glxgears does not, blender...
[04:15] <rempresent> isuactiafner:  so... are you willing to help tweak this b-word
[04:15] <XTCboarder> bob2 .. cat: /proc/pci: No such file or directory
[04:16] <bob2> XTCboarder: use lspci instead
[04:16] <braz2kuk12> anyone any news on usplash
[04:16] <bob2> no
[04:16] <frank_> glxgears doesn't work at all? or just works slowly?
[04:16] <XTCboarder> it doesn't work
[04:16] <rempresent> works slowly
[04:16] <rempresent> for me
[04:16] <rempresent> it is a bword
[04:16] <bob2> XTCboarder: "doesn't work" is not something anyone can help with
[04:16] <transgress> herm...  alrighty... well it just seems that it locks mplayer up...
[04:16] <transgress> trying to play a dvd
[04:17] <rempresent> 1695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 339.000 FPS
[04:17] <geargolem> not at all, frank_
[04:17] <transgress> kaffeine will do it w/ no sound...
[04:17] <transgress> and laggy
[04:17] <meng> hi, i am having issues building my kernel modules for the ati drivers
[04:17] <XTCboarder> i mean, it won't turn on the opengl thingie
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> meng: it's packaged
[04:17] <braz2kuk12> regarding slow play iwth mplayer and xine, i removed the gstreamer dvd plaugin using synpatic and that fixed it :)
[04:17] <bob2> meng: you don't need to build them
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> ther's no need to build them
[04:17] <lsuactiafner> right now i'm trying to figure out why its damn near impossible to compile 30% of the source out there without sacrificing 7 ants and 3 cats.
[04:17] <bob2> meng: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:17] <meng> tried that
[04:17] <bob2> god I wish people would read the faq
[04:17] <bob2> lsuactiafner: can you be more vague?
[04:18] <meng> my fglrxinfo still shows mesa as my open gl driver
[04:18] <rempresent> i don't know where one is...
[04:18] <frank_> geargolem, install xbase-clients package
[04:19] <meng>  bob2: my fglrxinfo still shows mesa as my open gl driver
[04:19] <bretzel> hum ... I am trying to install ( compiling snapshot of ) E17 and the "evas " pkg compiles with errors: un defined symbols at link time: ...../libevas.so: undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'
[04:19] <frank_> geargolem, never mind you probably have it already
[04:20] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : xmms-1.2.10
[04:20] <bob2> lsuactiafner: or show us the error
[04:20] <rempresent> can you still swap an ati card, with an nvidia, then it will recognize it on reboot?
[04:20] <lsuactiafner> checking for glib-config... /usr/bin/glib-config
[04:20] <lsuactiafner> checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.2... no
[04:20] <meng> my stupidity got me my radeon 9600
[04:20] <bob2> lsuactiafner: dude
[04:20] <bob2> lsuactiafner: 1.2.10 is IN ubuntu already
[04:21] <lsuactiafner> yeh but some archane place it seems
[04:21] <bob2> what does that mean?
[04:21] <braz2kuk12> codename next release of ubuntu??
[04:21] <frank_> geargolem, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf   to check if xorg is using the sis driver
[04:21] <lsuactiafner> firefox 1.0.3 installer also spits out errors
[04:21] <geargolem> it is
[04:21] <geargolem> it is, frank_
[04:21] <bob2> lsuactiafner: did you paste those errors to #flood?
[04:21] <bob2> lsuactiafner: why are you trying to compile xmms?
[04:21] <Epicenter> I installed apache2 and then removed it and now want to install php4. But, it keeps trying to install it to the dirs for apache 2. How do I convince it I only have Apache *1*?
[04:21] <lsuactiafner> it means xmms is looking everywhere for glib and cant find it since glib is somewhere it shouldnt be
[04:21] <bob2> lsuactiafner: also, apt-cache showsrc xmms
[04:22] <bob2> lsuactiafner: no, it's not
[04:22] <meng> bob2: i tried following the wiki for the ati drivers
[04:22] <bob2> meng: cool
[04:22] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : i prefer to compile my own software
[04:22] <pixil9> Epicenter: is apache2 completely removed?
[04:22] <bob2> lsuactiafner: why?
[04:22] <bob2> lsuactiafner: also, 12:21:56           bob2 | lsuactiafner: also, apt-cache showsrc xmms
[04:22] <Epicenter> pixil9: I apt-get --purge remove'ed it
[04:22] <raydogg> how can i burn my data encrypted to a dvd in the same fashion as i setup a block device encrytped with AES or such
[04:22] <pixil9> Epicenter, o
[04:22] <frank_> geargolem, what error message do you get while running glxgears?
[04:22] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : -O3
[04:22] <bob2> lsuactiafner: haha
[04:23] <bob2> lsuactiafner: xmms is a significant cpu hog on your machine?
[04:23] <lsuactiafner> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:23] <pixil9> Epicenter, libapache-mod-php4 ?
[04:23] <bob2> lsuactiafner: again, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:23] <pixil9> Epicenter, don't use libapache2-mod-php4
[04:23] <Epicenter> trying that now
[04:23] <bob2> lsuactiafner: it's pretty rich to complain stuff doesn't work when you ignore the help people give you
[04:23] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : my loads dont often go below 100%
[04:23] <jordan_> i havent had any apt-get upgrades in a week or two, is that normal?
[04:24] <lsuactiafner>  04:23:44 up  3:12, 14 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.09, 1.07
[04:24] <bob2> lsuactiafner: and xmmsis a significant portion of that?
[04:24] <geargolem> frank_  I get xlib:  "GLX" missing on display : 0  0
[04:24] <kanuha> question, has anyone setup crossover office succsessfully?
[04:24] <pixil9> geargolem, Load glx in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:24] <braz2kuk12> yeh i use crossover office fine on hoary
[04:24] <meng> wine-config-sidenet
[04:24] <Epicenter> pixil9: when I browse to a .php file on the server it still tries to ask me to download it :P
[04:24] <Epicenter> I guess it didn't fully take
[04:25] <pixil9> Epicenter: did you use apache-mod-php?
[04:25] <frank_> geargolem, Section "Module"  is Load	"glx" there?
[04:25] <bob2> lsuactiafner: did you know that -O3 often makes code slower?
[04:25] <hypno> jordan_ ubuntu only releases security patches and major bugfixes between releases
[04:25] <Epicenter> apache-mod-php4
[04:25] <bob2> by increasing cache misses etc?
[04:25] <geargolem> frank_ yes it is
[04:25] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : what help? i did run apt-get install xmms, i did use synaptic.
[04:25] <meng> is firefox 1.0.3 out for debian or ubuntu yet?
[04:25] <pixil9> Epicenter: did you check the apache conf to see if it added php extensions?
[04:25] <Epicenter> pxiil9: -mod doesn't seem to exist.
[04:25] <pixil9> libapache-mod-php
[04:25] <pixil9> is what you want.
[04:25] <Epicenter> it doesn't exist
[04:25] <bob2> lsuactiafner: 12:23:29           bob2 | lsuactiafner: again, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:25] <pixil9> yes it does
[04:25] <jordan_> hypno, Ohhhh okay, so the only way to get updates is breezy or backports?
[04:25] <bob2> lsuactiafner: you haven't read that page
[04:26] <pixil9> you need to update your sources
[04:26] <jordan_> i understand...
[04:26] <frank_> geargolem, I really don't know much about this. I don't know what to do
[04:26] <hypno> jordan_ that's right
[04:26] <bob2> lsuactiafner: if you had, you'd have enabled universe, then xmms would be available
[04:26] <Epicenter> do I need universe?
[04:26] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : in my opinion it makes it faster
[04:26] <Epicenter> or multiverse or what?
[04:26] <lsuactiafner> i do unroll loops also
[04:26] <bob2> lsuactiafner: haha
[04:26] <mjc_> anyone else running myth on ubuntu amd64? having problems w/ mythfrontend segfaulting
[04:26] <kanuha> braz2kuk12, the install goes well, but when I try to configure the screen goes blank and my monitor goes to sleep. Did you do anything special to install beyond sh and the file name?
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> lsuactiafner: your opinion worth slightly less than nothing
[04:26] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto doesnt open in lynx...
[04:26] <bob2> lsuactiafner: well, that's a shame
[04:26] <jordan_> hypno, how long does it take for the next release to become stable enough for an idiot to use?
[04:26] <pixil9> Epicenter, sec
[04:26] <bob2> lsuactiafner: try it in links or w3m or something
[04:26] <mjc_> links > lynx
[04:26] <bob2> lsuactiafner: and don't just not read things
[04:27] <bob2> lsuactiafner: if you can't open it, TELL ME
[04:27] <geargolem> thanks anyway frank_
[04:27] <pixil9> Epicenter, it's in universe
[04:27] <bob2> it's damn annoying if you just ignore parts of our conversation
[04:27] <lsuactiafner> ok so how do i enable universe? as far as i know /etc/apt/sources?
[04:27] <bob2> yes
[04:27] <bob2> blah
[04:27] <hypno> jordan_ no idea..
[04:27] <Epicenter> pixil9: I added universe and did apt-get update, it still can't be found
[04:27] <bob2> lsuactiafner: it opens in lynx fine here.  try again.
[04:27] <jordan_> hypno, thanks anyway
[04:27] <meng> bob2: could just enable it in synaptic
[04:27] <geargolem> frank_ how do you comment out something on xorg.config?
[04:27] <jordan_> geargolem, #
[04:28] <frank_> geargolem, with a #
[04:28] <meng> bob2: just check the disabled sources
[04:28] <pixil9> well wtf I can see it fine.. and it says it's universe lol
[04:28] <pixil9> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:28] <pixil9> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:28] <pixil9> unless its on one of those?
[04:28] <bob2> meng: oh, good point
[04:28] <bob2> gah
[04:28] <bob2> pixil9: please don't use backports
[04:29] <frank_> do they backport to amd64 also? I haven't seen anything there yet
[04:29] <bob2> oh man
[04:29] <meng> backports is a good thing
[04:29] <bob2> no they're not
[04:29] <bob2> they're broken and badly designed
[04:29] <meng> ubuntu's gaim is riddiculously old
[04:29] <meng> old times 100
[04:29] <pixil9> meng: use those sources I just pasted.
[04:29] <bob2> 1.1.4 is ridiculously old?
[04:29] <pixil9> it'll update ya to 1.2.1
[04:29] <Edgan> meng: hoary's is 1.1.4 and there is only 1.2.0 and 1.2.1 which are newer
[04:29] <jordan_> bob2, oops really? i only used like 4 of them so i guess im okay...
[04:30] <jordan_> bob2, mainly wesnoth
[04:30] <Edgan> pixil9: 1.2.1 is in breezy and backports
[04:30] <geargolem> jordan_  where does the # go?
[04:30] <meng> it's OSS software after all
[04:30] <Epicenter> pixil9: So what should I be using?
[04:30] <pixil9> As you'll notice I just pasted backports sources.
[04:30] <pixil9> lol
[04:30] <jordan_> geargolem, before the line
[04:30] <bob2> jordan_: they will make upgrading to the next version of ubuntu harder
[04:30] <pixil9> but thanks for the info
[04:30] <frank_> geargolem, before the line starts. Look at the top of the file
[04:30] <jordan_> geargolem, # what i want to comment
[04:30] <bob2> meng: sure, but they're still broken and badly designed
[04:30] <pixil9> Epicenter: put them both in.
[04:30] <ogra> gah, did i read backports ?
[04:30] <bob2> people can do whatever they want, but when it breaks, you keep both pieces
[04:30] <jordan_> bob2, yay!
[04:30] <ogra> hey bob2
[04:30] <meng> i had my gaim source compiled
[04:31] <ogra> bob2, your country is great, i love it..
[04:31] <bob2> aloha
[04:31] <jordan_> bob2, what country?
[04:31] <bob2> ogra: oh, you're in sydney already?
[04:31] <bob2> jordan_: australia.
[04:31] <ogra> yeah
[04:31] <Edgan> yeah, gaim is one of those things you really can't let get too outdated. IM providers are constantly breaking things
[04:31] <ogra> bob2, since monday...
[04:31] <jordan_> bob2, i would love to visit australia one of these days
[04:31] <meng> agree about the IM thing
[04:31] <pixil9> My bro is leavin there for a year in like 4 days
[04:32] <meng> too bad MSN's PM is not suppoted
[04:32] <ogra> jordan_, you really should, its absolutely worth it
[04:32] <pixil9> too bad webcams don't work :(
[04:32] <meng> so as winks and nudges
[04:32] <meng> but nudges are more of an annoyance
[04:32] <Edgan> meng: PM?
[04:33] <Edgan> pixil9: there is work on gaim-vv
[04:33] <meng> like the currently playing track in WMP or iTunes
[04:33] <geargolem> thank you for your help
[04:33] <meng> or some other msg after ur screenname
[04:34] <pixil9> Edgan: supports webcam?
[04:34] <Edgan> pixil9: working on msn webcam support
[04:34] <pixil9> i can't wait
[04:34] <pixil9> then i can toss windows
[04:34] <meng> the official MSN client does webcams
[04:34] <kanuha> braz2kuk12, did you use su or sudo when you installed cross-over?
[04:34] <meng> i can't toss my win yet, got games to play
[04:34] <Epicenter> STILL Can't find libapache-mod-php
[04:35] <Edgan> pixil9: who are you constantly webcaming with?
[04:35] <pixil9> Edgan: girlfriend
[04:35] <meng> ah
[04:35] <Edgan> pixil9: tried playing with gnomemeeting?
[04:35] <pixil9> Edgan, no.. what is it
[04:35] <frank_> geargolem, check this out: http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsisvga.shtml
[04:35] <Edgan> pixil9: video conferencing software for linux
[04:35] <meng> is there a way to install the official MSN client in linux?
[04:35] <pixil9> ah.. will it connect to her msn?
[04:36] <kanuha> pixil9, what brand webcam do you have?
[04:36] <pixil9> kanuha: intel
[04:36] <kanuha> Which model?
[04:36] <A_Alam> can some please help me, where i can add my langauge to ubuntu5.x for booting in LiveCD?
[04:36] <Edgan> pixil9: probably not, but it might work with some standard windows video conferencing.
[04:36] <felipe__> meng you can use amsn or gaim
[04:36] <pitti> A_Alam: what language do you need? We don't support it yet?
[04:36] <pixil9> Edgan, hmm might check itout
[04:36] <pixil9> kanuha, i have no idea lol
[04:37] <pitti> A_Alam: usually you can select your language at the very first installation question
[04:37] <pixil9> it has a lens shutter
[04:37] <meng> felipe__: i realize that, but there are times i needed the real client
[04:37] <pixil9> and says intel
[04:37] <raydogg> how do i mount an iso image to look like a block device ?
[04:37] <pixil9> o
[04:37] <pixil9> CS430
[04:37] <A_Alam> pitti, Punjabi (pa_IN), not yet added
[04:37] <Edgan> raydogg: mount file.iso /mnt/iso -o loop
[04:37] <kanuha> pixil9, on the bottom it should have the model. Mine is the cs330
[04:37] <meng> the lang pack is not too good
[04:37] <lsuactiafner> pixil9 : if usb lsusb -v
[04:37] <frank_> Men, maybe wine / crossover supports it I dont know
[04:37] <raydogg> thx Edgan
[04:37] <pitti> A_Alam: indeed, we don't support this yet
[04:37] <meng> only my date and time changed
[04:38] <kanuha> pixil9, I have a cs330 and cannot get it to work
[04:38] <TestDummy> Blah, I think I did..
[04:38] <A_Alam> i can know there is 6 Indian lanaguage for which can added to release
[04:38] <pixil9> kanuha: haha we're probably screwed
[04:38] <pixil9> though a webcam costs like $20 these days
[04:38] <A_Alam> for Gnome as well kde
[04:38] <meng> just when i thought BM is easy to translate
[04:38] <TestDummy> I add the line to /etc/fstab to mount ntfs, but on reboot it says something like "mount point /media/windows does not exist"
[04:38] <Edgan> pixil9: hehe, you might get away with msn messenger in VMware if the camera is usb1
[04:39] <pixil9> TestDummy, mkdir /media/windows
[04:39] <pitti> A_Alam: if you start to translate it in Rosetta, then one of the next language pack updates will contain your translations
[04:39] <DoppelGanger> TestDummy: truly you have earned your name
[04:39] <TestDummy> I have =|
[04:39] <dazed> what to do what to do
[04:39] <pixil9> heh my computer blows i don't think i'll be installing vmware
[04:39] <TestDummy> This isn't the only time I've been an idiot
[04:39] <meng> how can i join Rosetta?
[04:39] <meng> i'll like to work on the BM packs during the holidays
[04:39] <ogra> meng launchpad.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <frank_> BM?
[04:40] <TestDummy> pixil9: Is that it if the line is already in /etc/fstab?
[04:40] <meng> Bahasa Melayu, the official language of Malaysia
[04:41] <A_Alam> pitti, language pack for Punjabi is there, but not include in menu at boot time, i use Rosetta
[04:41] <frank_> oh. I learn something new everyday
[04:41] <pixil9> TestDummy, I don't see why not
[04:41] <pixil9> just make the damn directory and type mount -a
[04:41] <TestDummy> Oh, mount -a..
[04:41] <pitti> A_Alam: ah, right. The language needs to be added to the installer, too
[04:41] <pixil9> don't reboot
[04:41] <pitti> A_Alam: that's a job for Kamion
[04:41] <pixil9> mount -a will mount all devices in /etc/fstab
[04:41] <TestDummy> Ah.
[04:41] <TestDummy> Didn't know that
[04:41] <meng> is there a way to correctly install lang packs?
[04:42] <A_Alam> pitti, i want to update liveCD for Punjabi, where can i find list for Language for it, where in 4.10 release is /boot/grub/lang.lst
[04:42] <ogra> meng, synaptic ?
[04:43] <meng> did that, but only my date and time changed
[04:43] <pixil9> lol punjabi?
[04:43] <TestDummy> Aha, there it is
[04:43] <TestDummy> It works :)
[04:43] <meng> *itching for meruku
[04:43] <pitti> A_Alam: this has got nothing to do with grub, that's a debian-installer issue
[04:44] <Epicenter> pixil9: It absolutely cannot find this package
[04:44] <Epicenter> Pixil9: packages.ubuntu.org says it's in universe. apt-cache search disagrees
[04:45] <XTCboarder> !! help, i got gnome resolution settings at 800x600 but my creen says it is at 1600x1200
[04:45] <XTCboarder> anybody know somethign about this problem?
[04:46] <pixil9> Epicenter: search libapache in synaptic
[04:46] <pixil9> i dunno thats where i see it :P
[04:46] <A_Alam> pitti, i have ubuntu 4.10, there is /boot/grub/lang.lst file is there
[04:46] <Epicenter> Pixil9: There is -php4
[04:46] <Epicenter> but not -php
[04:47] <interalia_> hi.  sorry if this is a faq.. does anyone know how I can disable ubuntu trying to suspend etc. when I shut my laptop lid?
[04:47] <pixil9> ya
[04:47] <pixil9> of course you want php4!
[04:48] <dantheman> can anyone tell me why my printing might be fuzzy, and slightly misplaced on a page?
[04:48] <maxsideburn> hi all
[04:48] <maxsideburn> Can anyone tell me what the most graphically advanced WM is for X?
[04:48] <xfSx> hi, can anyone tell me why my pc just blew up?
[04:49] <|QuaD-> maxsideburn: graphically advanced? explain what you mean by graphically advanced
[04:49] <xfSx> maxsideburn, i'm not sure xfce or gnome, i'm new to the game
[04:49] <Epicenter> pixil9: I installed it. But when I click a link on the sites hosted it just tries to download the file :P
[04:49] <meng> xfSx: neglect and the lack of TLC?
[04:49] <cens0red> xfSx al qaeda?
[04:49] <xfSx> lol
[04:50] <pixil9> Epicenter, Open your httpd.conf or whichever it is
[04:50] <raydogg> Edgan, what filesystem type should I use to mount file.iso ?
[04:50] <pixil9> Epicenter, Look at which extensions it has might have to add just .php
[04:50] <b2s> raydogg: iso9660
[04:50] <xfSx> i think cens0red is closer to the truth
[04:50] <Edgan> raydogg: -t iso9660
[04:50] <Epicenter> pixil9: what line is that?
[04:50] <cens0red> xfSx tell us about it. Was it spectacular?
[04:50] <Epicenter> I added index.php
[04:50] <maxsideburn> i meant are there any cool experimental WMs for X?
[04:50] <maxsideburn> like with really advanced graphics, or special effects, or something really different
[04:50] <pixil9> Epicenter: I don't know the mod should of added it near the bottom
[04:50] <xfSx> well i put in an ubuntu cd, and as it booted gnome it just blew up
[04:51] <|QuaD-> maxsideburn: the WM doesn't really determine your graphics
[04:51] <xfSx> with a bit of smoke
[04:51] <|QuaD-> your xserver does
[04:51] <raydogg> says bad superblock on /dev/loop4, should i create the iso in any special way ?
[04:51] <xfSx> i think my xserver meltdowned
[04:51] <Epicenter> pixil9: it isn't
[04:51] <Epicenter> pixil9: I'd put in a LoadModule line but I don't know the path to the .so
[04:51] <|QuaD-> maxsideburn: each WM has its use
[04:51] <beh> how can i capture screen shots of mplayers video?
[04:51] <cens0red> xfSx hmmm. Sounds like its time had come.
[04:52] <xfSx> yeah icewm is always talking about how it was abused as a child
[04:52] <meng> what was the WM which looks like winxp?
[04:52] <cens0red> I've been discovering the limits of my cpu fan since I started using ubuntu.
[04:52] <pixil9> Epicenter, sec installing apache
[04:52] <xfSx> my pc makes a noise it never made in xp when it's running glxgears
[04:52] <pixil9> Epicenter, send me a php file
[04:53] <frank_> the gears need to be oiled
[04:53] <Epicenter> pixil9: 1 sec
[04:54] <beh> does anyone know of an easy way to get screencaps from a video in mplayer
[04:54] <Epicenter> pixil9: try this
[04:55] <Epicenter> http://65.86.188.150/epicenter/index.php
[04:55] <|QuaD-> beh: if you ask a third time, maybe i will know the answer
[04:55] <pixil9> connection refused
[04:55] <beh> |QuaD-: maybe someone who knew the answer didnt see my message the first time
[04:56] <|QuaD-> beh: maybe, thats why i suggested a thirdtime
[04:56] <beh> |QuaD-: or maybe you were just being sarcastic
[04:56] <|QuaD-> beh: nope, i was using your logice
[04:56] <Epicenter> pixil9: Try now
[04:56] <|QuaD-> beh: you should keep sending that message
[04:56] <beh> |QuaD- oh ok
[04:56] <pixil9> works?
[04:56] <|QuaD-> cuz its possible someone didn't see your msg
[04:57] <Epicenter> pixil9: it's up, yes
[04:57] <pixil9> so what's the problem
[04:57] <hypno> beh set the -vo to x11
[04:57] <hypno> then you should be able to grab it with gimp or whatever
[04:58] <nickrud> well, I finally got around to setting up my  the mozilla multimedia setup :)
[04:58] <raydogg> ok, so how do i mount file.iso as a writable file system ?
[04:59] <raydogg> (I got the mount with iso9660 to work )
[04:59] <nickrud> I can play most of the things on http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/menu.html with mplayer embedded,
[04:59] <raydogg> I want to write files to this block device
[04:59] <geneo93> nickrud:  back
[04:59] <nickrud> but not everything.
[04:59] <nickrud> geneo93, hi
[04:59] <nickrud> Some I would need crossover, but I wanted to compare notes a bit
[04:59] <meng> nickrud: how did you get ur mozilla plugins to work?
[05:00] <meng> i have the vlc plugins installed, but nothing gets streamed and it fails miserably in atomfilms
[05:01] <nickrud> Followed the instructions on the wiki, and installed mozilla-mplayer and mozplugger.
[05:01] <pixil9> Epicenter, I'm running apache w/ libapache-mod-php4 without a problem..
[05:02] <nickrud> If anyone else could look at those, and especially the linspire ones
[05:02] <meng> i tried mozilla-mplayer and mozpluger, it wont work too
[05:02] <Epicenter> pixil9: I can't seem to. :P
[05:02] <Epicenter> pixil9: send me your httpd.conf please?
[05:02] <meng> mainly coz i am using an AMD athlon xp
[05:02] <Epicenter> pixil9: or a .tar.gz your whole /etc/apache/ dir
[05:02] <nickrud> :P
[05:02] <nickrud> geneo93, did you get your sound back?
[05:03] <Juhaz> raydogg, I don't think you can write to iso9660
[05:03] <geneo93> all my sound works except for kde sounds
[05:03] <pixil9> lol i just removed it
[05:03] <nickrud> geneo93, you mean gnome sounds?
[05:04] <geneo93> aand gnome sounds
[05:04] <pixil9> hold on
[05:04] <pixil9> Epicenter, Why don't you remove it all and make sure the /etc/apache dirs are gone
[05:04] <pixil9> reinstall
[05:04] <nickrud> geneo93, kde and gnome use different sound systems. I don't know if you can make kde use esd.
[05:05] <Epicenter> pixil9: I did
[05:05] <geneo93> the only thing i have on now is tv card
[05:05] <nickrud> geneo93, never used one :)
[05:06] <geneo93> nickrud:  mine is old wintv card with fm
[05:06] <goldfish> Anyone here use xterm ?
[05:06] <rempresent> alright... i am back.. i now own a nvida graphics card
[05:06] <pixil9> Epicenter, All i did was install apache 1 and libapache-mod-php4
[05:06] <pixil9> restarted apache
[05:06] <pixil9> worked perfect.
[05:06] <rempresent> a geforce 4 mx440
[05:07] <Epicenter> pixil9: so did I :P
[05:07] <rempresent> now how do i install this b-word
[05:07] <nickrud> you take the case apart
[05:07] <nickrud> :)
[05:07] <rempresent> yar
[05:07] <pixil9> Epicenter: Ok well what extension is the file you're loading
[05:08] <geneo93> rempresent:  i have that card in this working nicely
[05:08] <pixil9> http://68.147.151.46/phpsysinfo
[05:09] <pixil9> that work?
[05:09] <pixil9> oops
[05:09] <pixil9> http://68.147.151.46:888/phpsysinfo
[05:09] <Epicenter> yes.
[05:10] <borgista> I have an issue with my wireless-net card. A D-Link. Anyone with some experience with said card?
[05:10] <pixil9> Well
[05:10] <rempresent> geneo93:  do you play WoW on it
[05:10] <geneo93> no
[05:10] <pixil9> Epicenter, Ok what is the extension of the file?
[05:10] <Edgan> borgista: model?
[05:11] <Epicenter> pixil9: .php
[05:11] <borgista> DWL-G520
[05:11] <Edgan> borgista: rev?
[05:11] <pixil9> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[05:11] <pixil9> uncomment that
[05:11] <pixil9> restart apache
[05:11] <geneo93> freecraft is the only game i ever play
[05:11] <borgista> the issue is that it comes up in my Device Manager yet not under 'Networking'
[05:11] <borgista> rev?
[05:11] <pixil9> i dunno what else to say
[05:11] <pixil9> heh
[05:11] <rempresent> dang
[05:11] <Edgan> borgista: yes, it will say on the card. Different revisions can be different chipsets
[05:11] <Epicenter> pixil9: no luck
[05:12] <pixil9> are you're running /etc/init.d/apache restart
[05:12] <pixil9> ?
[05:12] <Epicenter> pixil9: I see no line to load php4 in here
[05:12] <Epicenter> pixil9: killall apache, apache
[05:12] <borgista> Let me check.
[05:12] <Epicenter> restarting the real way didn't help either
[05:13] <pixil9> Epicenter: You never found AddType application/x-httpd-php .php ?
[05:13] <pixil9> fuck i have no idea :(
[05:14] <pixil9> apache2 musta borked somethin
[05:14] <thechitowncubs> Hey
[05:14] <thechitowncubs> How can I install mencoder?
[05:14] <borgista> Edgan: on the ubuntu wiki it says the chipset is Athereos AR5212
[05:14] <Edgan> borgista: looks like in generally the G520 uses the madwifi driver, which is part of ubuntu, under restricted models
[05:15] <borgista> So all I need is the restricted modules then.
[05:15] <Epicenter> pixil9: I did, an I uncommentedit
[05:15] <thechitowncubs> when i try sudo apt-get install mencoder
[05:15] <Epicenter> pixil9: But there is no loadmodule line for php4
[05:15] <Edgan> borgista: if you don't have them installed, yeah
[05:15] <thechitowncubs> Nothing works
[05:15] <borgista> Because the Wiki holds that it works "out-of-the-box"
[05:15] <occy> Are there any good easy to use DVD tools for Linux yet?
[05:15] <borgista> so that must be it.
[05:15] <GammaRay> thechitowncubs: that's not a very descriptive complaint
[05:15] <borgista> Thank you Edgan
[05:15] <pixil9> Epicenter, shouldn't that me in /etc/apache/modules.conf ?
[05:15] <pixil9> be*
[05:15] <Epicenter> pixil9: now that I check, it is
[05:15] <geneo93> thechitowncubs:  apt-get update
[05:15] <Edgan> borgista: I made sure to have my wireless card plugged in when I installed ubuntu so that it would detect the card and set it up. I have a G650
[05:15] <borgista> Will return.
[05:16] <membreya> anyone here running an amd64 kernel?
[05:16] <Edgan> membreya: I am, though not under ubuntu, yet
[05:16] <frank_> occy what do you need?
[05:16] <frank_> membreya, yeah
[05:16] <nickrud> thechitowncubs, did you get mplayer yet
[05:16] <membreya> frank_: I can't get amd64-agp to load
[05:17] <pixil9> hahaha i just freaked my mom out with etherwake
[05:17] <occy> frank_: some nice GUI tool that let's me do Firewire -> video under Linux
[05:17] <membreya> what AGP driver are you using?
[05:17] <occy> frank_: clicky clicky
[05:17] <Edgan> pixil9: how
[05:17] <pixil9> Edgan: She was in her office and I turned her computer on
[05:17] <occy> I have a DVD burner... I'd like to get stuff off my camera and put onto a DVD under Linux
[05:17] <frank_> occy, don't know about firewire but check out  tovid  for the whole consersion and authoring
[05:17] <Edgan> pixil9: haha
[05:17] <occy> k
[05:18] <nickrud> or, a better question, do you have mallirat's repo in your sources.list :)
[05:18] <Edgan> frank_: you have any 32bit installed on your 64bit system?
[05:18] <frank_> membreya, is that a module?
[05:18] <frank_> Edgan, yeah
[05:18] <membreya> frank_: it is in the k7 kernel...
[05:18] <membreya> do you know what AGP driver you're loading?
[05:18] <membreya> what does lsmod |grep agp show?
[05:18] <Edgan> frank_: how does the 32bit chroot work out for you? I am fond of multi-arch, but ubuntu doesn't have it yet
[05:19] <Edgan> membreya: in my case, none, since I am using the nvidia driver
[05:19] <frank_> membreya, That lsmod gives me nothing yet video acceleration definitly works fine
[05:19] <pixil9> Time to install Medal of Honor
[05:19] <frank_> Edgan, 32bit chroot works fine but takes some time setting up
[05:20] <Epicenter> pixil9: giving up on me then? ;(
[05:20] <membreya> frank_: video acceleration doesn't work on my PC..i get 400 fps on glxgears running an amd64 3200 (geforce 4000)
[05:20] <rempresent> alright, i am back with news from the graphics driver
[05:20] <geneo93> membreya:  thats sad
[05:20] <pixil9> Epicenter, Well what can I do lol
[05:20] <frank_> membreya, do you have nvidia-glx installed?
[05:20] <Epicenter> mm.
[05:20] <Edgan> membreya: I get 6500fps with my amd64 3500 and geforce fx 5900se
[05:20] <rempresent> this is what my glxgears is running at with the nvidia driver... at least i think i have it installed...
[05:20] <rempresent> 808 frames in 5.0 seconds = 161.600 FPS
[05:21] <membreya> geneo93: it makes me cry
[05:21] <membreya> frank_: sure do
[05:21] <pixil9> Epicenter, Unless I can ssh in or something
[05:21] <rempresent> how can i check it?
[05:21] <membreya> though I just changed my kernel so it isn't loaded
[05:21] <Epicenter> pixil9: I think it just needs a reinstall, sorry to say
[05:21] <computerguy867> how does one get amd64 packeges such as acrobat and flash
[05:21] <frank_> membreya, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[05:21] <DR_K13> hi room
[05:21] <Edgan> computerguy867: there is no 64bit flash, yet
[05:21] <membreya> yet? :P well hopefully adobe bring it out :)
[05:21] <Edgan> computerguy867: not 64bit acrobat either
[05:21] <raydogg> Edgan, how can I mount file.iso as a writable file system ?
[05:22] <Edgan> computerguy867: not that you  can't run the 32bit versions
[05:22] <Edgan> raydogg: don't think you can
[05:22] <raydogg> when i mounted it as ISO 9660 it was read only
[05:22] <computerguy867> how can you
[05:22] <Edgan> computerguy867: 32bit chroot
[05:22] <computerguy867> if i add the marillat repositories it doesnt work
[05:22] <computerguy867> 32bit chroot?
[05:22] <frank_> raydogg, considering its for CDs, read only seems fine to me!
[05:22] <membreya> going to steal my ex's 4400 see if it works :D
[05:23] <Edgan> yeah, a directory structure that everything 32bit goes into, including libraries, so that it doesn't conflict with the 64bit files
[05:23] <raydogg> frank_, I hear ya, but what I want to do is create a virtual block device
[05:23] <rempresent> what can i do instead of glx gears to check my graphics card
[05:23] <rempresent> i am getting really really low fps.. and i don't know what to do?
[05:23] <raydogg> So i want to be able to mount file.iso as a block device
[05:23] <computerguy867> sounds messy
[05:23] <pixil9> Epicenter, Your whole box? lol
[05:23] <frank_> Remenic, if glxgears is not fast nothing else will be
[05:24] <raydogg> I want to use cryptsetup on this "virtual block device"
[05:24] <Epicenter> pixil9: it seems I've created quite a mess, yes.
[05:24] <pixil9> haha
[05:24] <frank_> Rempresent, if glxgears is not fast nothing else will be
[05:24] <pixil9> doesn't take that long anyway i guess
[05:24] <Epicenter> and that's all this machine does, run apache
[05:24] <Edgan> computerguy867: yeah, it is, and will later be replaced with multi-arch, which puts stuff in parallel, but debian/ubuntu don't have it yet. Plus in some cases multi-arch has problems a chroot doesn't
[05:24] <rempresent> frank_:  what can i do to check out what is wrong, or check my driver...
[05:24] <pixil9> haha i'm installing medal of honour through a samba share to a windows box that's mounting the bin & cues with daemon tools
[05:24] <computerguy867> when is this expected to get better?
[05:24] <geneo93> rempresent: mine is dual ps with 440mx and i get around 900 fps
[05:25] <computerguy867> 6 months?
[05:25] <rempresent> frank_:  i just installed the nvidia driver, or so i thought, and i don't know why there isn't an increase in performance.
[05:25] <Edgan> computerguy867: at the rate they seem to be going, and that it depends on debian doing it first, who knows
[05:25] <frank_> rempresent, , sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[05:25] <Epicenter> pixil9: can you upload or send me your etc/apache/ dir?
[05:25] <Epicenter> That may help
[05:25] <computerguy867> i see, well thanks for your help
[05:25] <pixil9> Epicenter, ok
[05:25] <rempresent> frank_:  i did that, how do i restart x to check out the new performance
[05:25] <pixil9> Epicenter, So all i have is apache and libapache-mod-php4
[05:25] <Edgan> computerguy867: there are howtos of how to setup the chroot
[05:25] <pixil9> to let you know
[05:25] <Epicenter> pixil9: i know.
[05:25] <computerguy867> ok, ill check em out
[05:26] <rempresent> geneo93:  i have the same card and i get like 200fps
[05:26] <geneo93> rempresent:  ctrl alt backspace
[05:26] <frank_> alt-ctrl-F1,  login,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:26] <frank_> rempresent, alt-ctrl-F1,  login,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:27] <Mestapheles> anybody noticed that ubuntuppc.webplazahosting.com is down?  Think this is permanent?
[05:27] <Edgan> maybe it moved
[05:28] <thenewlax> yo
[05:28] <Mestapheles> I hope its somewhere, I there are people who wrote some good guides
[05:28] <frank_> Edgan, did you try to use nvclock?
[05:29] <Edgan> frank_: no
[05:29] <rempresent> i got it to work, i saw the nvidia logo at boot
[05:29] <rempresent> thanks a ton guys, that just took like 4 hours of my life....
[05:29] <XTCboarder> :(
[05:29] <rempresent> it is worth it tooo see that freakin' logo
[05:29] <geneo93> hi a_blyss
[05:29] <thenewlax> how would i get Ubuntu to recognize another hard drive that is in my comp?
[05:29] <Epicenter> pixil9: uploading them?
[05:29] <thenewlax> im kinda a noob..
[05:29] <XTCboarder> my monitor is acting funny :(
[05:29] <geneo93> rempresent:  what frame rates you have now
[05:30] <rempresent> about 2600 fps
[05:30] <thenewlax> can anyone help me out?
[05:30] <rempresent> this is sweet... now for WoW
[05:30] <Juhaz> thenewlax, define recognize, do you want to access the file systems on that other hard drive?
[05:30] <rempresent> thanks a ton frank and geneo
[05:30] <rempresent> !
[05:30] <thenewlax> yea
[05:30] <geneo93> np
[05:30] <XTCboarder> i can't set correctly my screen resolution after I installed my screen
[05:30] <thenewlax> like so i can store stuff on there
[05:30] <frank_> Edgan, it's a tool to overclock a nvidia card but it only segfaults for me
[05:31] <rempresent> wha wha wha... how do i go about overclocking the card frank
[05:31] <rempresent> ?
[05:31] <Edgan> frank_: I don't have a need to overclock.
[05:31] <Epicenter> pixil9: thanks :)
[05:31] <thenewlax> but yea
[05:31] <pixil9> Epicenter, np
[05:31] <pixil9> Epicenter, mom was buggin me heh
[05:31] <Juhaz> thenewlax, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:31] <geneo93> frank_:  got it to work in mandrake haven't tried in ubuntu yet
[05:31] <frank_> rempresent, good to see it works
[05:31] <rempresent> thanks a bunch
[05:31] <rempresent> no joke
[05:32] <qman> anyone using the 1.0.3 ipw2200 driver?
[05:32] <thenewlax> ill check it out
[05:32] <IIIEARS> "" - screen trouble what command edits screen settings?
[05:33] <pixil9> Almost MoH time!!!
[05:33] <pixil9> what other good games can i install on linux
[05:33] <DanglyBits> is mozilla-firefox 1.0.3 available yet?  If not when?
[05:33] <geneo93> ablyss:  you having nick problems
[05:33] <DarthFrog> pixil9: Quake3 Doom3
[05:33] <DR_K13> lol
[05:33] <thenewlax> thats Juhaz
[05:33] <pixil9> DanglyBits, Is it absolutely necessary for you to have 1.0.3?
[05:33] <thenewlax> thanks*
[05:33] <frank_> DanglyBits, it wont be available in Hoary
[05:33] <pixil9> Hmm Doom3 sounds fun.. will my 1ghz cpu do it?
[05:34] <DanglyBits> why?
[05:34] <DanglyBits> frank_:why?
[05:34] <nickrud> thechitowncubs, you still here?
[05:34] <frank_> DanglyBits, beacause hoary will only get security updates from now on
[05:35] <DanglyBits> frank_:where can i get it then?
[05:35] <pixil9> DarthFrog, What cpu do i need for doom3?
[05:35] <frank_> DanglyBits, from breezy? I\m not sure...
[05:35] <DanglyBits> frank_: where do i get breezy?
[05:35] <frank_> pixil9, Video card is the big issue for any new game
[05:35] <qman> I think the 2.6.10-5 headers are screwed
[05:36] <pixil9> frank: i got a geforce 2 pro :P
[05:36] <qman> why else would it report "SMP"?
[05:36] <frank_> DanglyBits, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=70
[05:36] <frank_> pixil9, my guess is that Doom3 will give 2 fps
[05:37] <Juhaz> frank_, firefox 1.0.3 is a security update
[05:37] <chavo> maybe a bit more than 2 fps, but it will be way slow.
[05:38] <frank_> Juhaz, yeah but I think the way it works is that they make a patch of the security update to firefox 1.0.2
[05:38] <pixil9> frank_, lol.
[05:38] <pixil9> Well ut1 runs fine
[05:38] <pixil9> and moh
[05:38] <IIIEARS> Unreal tournament/UT2k3/2k4 works fine works fine
[05:38] <frank_> bah I used to play duke3d at like 7fps !
[05:38] <dazed> welll adios membreya
[05:39] <dazed> duke3d
[05:39] <dazed> i had every expansion pack and every book to duke3d
[05:39] <dazed> i still do
[05:39] <IIIEARS> though it can be difficult to install if you are new to linux - i tried and gave up
[05:40] <IIIEARS> ut2k4 includes an .sh install script with the DVD vers. - (CD vers. too?)
[05:40] <frank_> Nobody steals our chicks.... and lives!
[05:40] <darkaudit> IIIEARS: cd ver too...
[05:40] <IIIEARS> great! :)
[05:40] <darkaudit> looks very much like the loki installers I've seen for other games
[05:41] <dazed> "i came here to do 2 things...kick ass and chew bubble gum...looks like im all outta gum"
[05:41] <frank_> I'm gonna rip of your head and **** down your throat
[05:41] <burner> is duke3d out for linux?
[05:42] <IIIEARS> there hasn't been anything like duke nukem for humor - lol
[05:42] <geneo93> dazed:  sounds like something my 12 yr old son would do
[05:42] <burner> it's open source now right?  maybe it'll work with cedega?
[05:42] <frank_> Yeah its open source now
[05:42] <darkaudit> there was a project on icculus' page, but they look to be in a very bitter mood about it
[05:42] <burner> i bet it's worth it to try the dos version with linux
[05:42] <frank_> I haven't played it recently though
[05:42] <burner> or even just wine
[05:43] <IIIEARS> duke nukem is - duke nukem 2 3d is a ghostly apparition always just beyond the horizon. - lol
[05:44] <Juhaz> burner, http://icculus.org/duke3d/
[05:44] <darkaudit> what's bigger vaporware... Duke Nukem Forever or that WinFS thingy... orig. announced circa 1990?
[05:44] <pixil9> wicked
[05:44] <pixil9> where can i download duke3d
[05:44] <pixil9> oh cvs
[05:45] <pixil9> fuck thats too much work
[05:45] <bur[n] er> cvs? u can get win32 binaries
[05:45] <darkaudit> pixil9: and they don't want to hear from anyone about it
[05:45] <pixil9> ya i see now
[05:45] <pixil9> <-- too lazy
[05:46] <brazmetal> does someone here streams audio on the net?
[05:46] <brazmetal> does someone here stream audio on the net?
[05:46] <bur[n] er> sure
[05:46] <bur[n] er> not in linux
[05:46] <darkaudit> brazmetal: incoming or outgoing?
[05:46] <bur[n] er> but i heard icecast works?  with a bmp plugin?
[05:46] <bur[n] er> or xmms plugin
[05:47] <beowuff> What's a good normalizer pluggin for xmms?
[05:47] <brazmetal> darkaudit, outgoing... providing a radio
[05:47] <brazmetal> I use shoutcast
[05:47] <darkaudit> not I
[05:47] <brazmetal> And the "sc_trans" program
[05:47] <geneo93> beowuff:  xmms-normalize
[05:48] <brazmetal> but I want a alternative to sc_trans, cause it's very limited
[05:48] <discord> anyone know how to get a prism card working in ubuntu?
[05:48] <IIIEARS> How do i install DeCSS.deb after loading it into fileroller?
[05:48] <burner> brazmetal, apt-get install xmms-volnorm
[05:48] <frank_> sudo dpkg -i DeCSS.deb
[05:48] <discord> do I have to recompile my kernel to get my pcmcia card working?
[05:48] <darkaudit> IIIEARS: first, you don't need file-roller... it's dpkg -i
[05:48] <pixil9> Has anyone here used zoph?
[05:49] <meng> and people wonder why ubuntu isn't widely used.....
[05:49] <IIIEARS> frank - aw frank thats too easy - lol - you might guess i am new to linux eh?
[05:49] <FR500> i have cacti on one pc for network monitoring, what do i need in each pc, snmp or snmpd?
[05:49] <burner> it might be nice to have an app to use to open .deb files with, but dpkg -i works
[05:50] <frank_> IIIEARS, everyone was a newbie once
[05:50] <burner> open .deb with "xterm -e "dpkg -i $1"" ??
[05:50] <burner> i was thinking there's gotta be some easy scripting like way to do that
[05:50] <IIIEARS> something like this dpkg >> configure >> make >> make install - ?
[05:51] <burner> ?
[05:51] <frank_> IIIEARS, ?
[05:51] <FR500> can anyone help me?
[05:51] <darkaudit> nearly midnight... bedtime for bozo
[05:51] <burner> FR500, no idea on snmp
[05:51] <IIIEARS> lol - it isn't easy being green - grin
[05:51] <brazmetal> burner, xmms-volnorm? what is it for? to normalize the volume of the songs? I don't need that..
[05:51] <IIIEARS> Thank You :)
[05:52] <burner> brazmetal, what were you looking for then?
[05:52] <frank_> np
[05:52] <burner> brazmetal, apt-cache search xmms
[05:52] <FR500> burner, thanks anyway
[05:52] <Sim2> hi
[05:53] <Sim2> can someone help me out with forwarding localhost:26 to smtp.gmail.com:465 with stunnel so I can get ssl wrappers?
[05:53] <Sim2> i want postfix'x smtp client to use stunnel when a mail is defined in the transport map to go outside the domain.
[05:53] <discord> I thought hoary had wireless covered
[05:53] <discord> guess not
[05:53] <brazmetal> burner, I was looking for a plugin to stream audio...
[05:54] <bur[n] er> hoary works with wireless... doesn't do wpa and it doesn't show you networks around you
[05:54] <bur[n] er> brazmetal: icecast.org
[05:54] <lamont> Sim2: define a new transport that uses the pipe mailer to shove it down stunnel
[05:54] <lamont> and make that the default transport
[05:54] <bur[n] er> xmms-liveice and icecast-server
[05:54] <discord> doesnt work with the two cards I have
[05:54] <dazed> discord: it works with wireless and so does warty...you just have to install your own drivers with ndiswrapper if its not a linux chipset
[05:54] <discord> looks like ill have to
[05:55] <discord> recompile my kernel
[05:55] <discord> i dont know anyone that
[05:55] <Sim2> lamont, what would it look like in inetd.conf as the forwarding rule?
[05:55] <dazed> discord: your blowing things outta porportion
[05:55] <discord> uses the ndiswrapper with prism2 cards
[05:55] <dazed> what kind of wifi cards do you have?
[05:55] <discord> prism2 cards are pretty standard
[05:55] <discord> some of the first chipset
[05:55] <dazed> do u know the chipset they use?
[05:55] <discord> they make 2 drivers for the prism2 chipset
[05:56] <Sim2> smtps stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/stunnel -v3 -rlocalhost:25
[05:56] <discord> hostap
[05:56] <discord> and wlan-ng
[05:56] <Sim2> err something like that
[05:56] <dazed> alright get them and ndiswrapper....
[05:56] <discord> neither of which are included with
[05:56] <Sim2> s/25/26
[05:56] <lamont> Sim2: /etc/postfix/master.cf, see master(5)
[05:56] <bet0x> hi all people
[05:56] <bur[n] er> discord: linux-wlan-ng
[05:56] <discord> bullshit
[05:56] <discord> someone
[05:56] <bet0x> How i automount a partition
[05:56] <lamont> Sim2: and pipe(8postfix)
[05:56] <membreya> installed a new module, how would I go about reinstalling the nvidia drivers?
[05:56] <dazed> discord: try typing things on 1 line makes things easier to read
[05:56] <discord> they should be part of ubuntu
[05:56] <membreya> erm, installed a new kernel even
[05:57] <Sim2> thanks, let me take a look
[05:57] <dazed> discord: thats like saying all distros should be created around ur hardware
[05:57] <XplOzIon> Hello All
[05:57] <transgress> anyone know why i can get sound from everything except kaffeine... and kaffeine is the only thing that will play dvd's w/o freezing...
[05:57] <bur[n] er> well... wireless networking drivers is pretty important
[05:57] <bur[n] er> you can't download other stuff without network
[05:57] <discord> no im just saying that ubuntu should support the prism2 chipset since it is one of the most widley available chipsets
[05:58] <brazmetal> does someone here stream via Icecast/shoutcast?
[05:58] <dazed> if you have a wireless network im sure theres a lan port relatively close that u can click into
[05:58] <discord> all they had to do was include some modules with the distro
[05:58] <bur[n] er> not always... but yeah... prism2's are so prominent
[05:58] <dazed> broadcom is probably one of the broadest chipsets and its not included...its a easy task to ndiswrapper a drvier i dunno why its such a big deal to u
[05:58] <smouche> soundcards, wireless and 3d seem to be the big three problems with hardware compatibility -- you either get lucky, or you have to get to work
[05:58] <smouche> to get it all to work...
[05:59] <bur[n] er> discord: linux-wlan-ng was included here
[05:59] <discord> ?
[05:59] <bur[n] er> i didn't apt-get it and i have it
[05:59] <discord> which modules do you have
[05:59] <dazed> took me maybe 5 minutes to config my wireless card
[05:59] <bur[n] er> hrm
[05:59] <bur[n] er> not sure
[05:59] <amonkey> what's the /dev/ address of my serial port?
[05:59] <transgress> bleh i still need to write to do billing but i would really rather write a wiki doc
[05:59] <discord> I found this module
[05:59] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, i do stream from soutcast
[05:59] <discord> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wlan-ng # lsp80211.ko
[05:59] <XplOzIon> shoutcast**
[06:00] <discord> but that doesnt seem to be the driver i dont know what it is
[06:00] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, and what's the program you use to encoder ?
[06:00] <Sim2> lamont, can i pm you for just a sec?
[06:00] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, sc_trans ?
[06:00] <burner> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/prism2/prism2_usb.ko
[06:00] <burner> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/prism54/prism54.ko
[06:01] <pixil9> What's a good webmail setup?
[06:01] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, dont know really, bmp just plays it
[06:01] <Sim2> i thought i had to just change the relay to localhost:<someport>
[06:01] <Sim2> then it would just be forwarded to someplace:465
[06:02] <brazmetal> XplOzIon,  bmp ?
[06:02] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, beep media player
[06:02] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, how do you "transport" the sound to the shoutcast?
[06:02] <lamont> Sim2: sure
[06:02] <burner> it's xmms based on gtk2
[06:03] <membreya> ive done a sudo apt-get remove nvidia and nvidia-settings and reinstalled them whilst running the new kernel, yet sudo modprobe nvidia says it's not found
[06:03] <membreya> :|
[06:03] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, but how? xmms just plays songs...
[06:03] <burner> brazmetal, use xmms-liveice and icecast-server
[06:03] <discord> unfortunatly those prism2 modules do not support the prism2 pcmcia cards
[06:03] <burner> prism2_pcmcia
[06:04] <brazmetal> burner, I'm using shoutcast... I can't put icecast working
[06:04] <dazed> how do u change ur smb workgroup?
[06:04] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, beep media player (bmp) its like xmms (and some may say way better) and it streams from shoutcast from default instalation
[06:04] <discord> yeah i dont see a prism2_pcmcia module
[06:04] <abinadid> anybody running xlink kai ???? some help
[06:04] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, the package name iso bmp ?
[06:05] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, isn't it a plugin that Bmp uses?
[06:05] <transgress> grar at things that don't list their licenses where i can find them
[06:05] <membreya> are there restricted modules available for amdk8 2.6.11 ?
[06:05] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, yeah, it installed from a script that its posted on www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:06] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, none of the plugins in bmp says its for streaming =/
[06:06] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, let me check for the url of it
[06:06] <dazed> how do u change ur smb workgroup?
[06:07] <pixil9> dazed: I'd suggest installing swat and going from there.
[06:08] <pixil9> dazed: basically install it with synaptic then goto http://localhost:901
[06:08] <dazed> pixil9: thanks...it was sooo much easier on warty
[06:08] <pixil9> ah i never used warty
[06:08] <dazed> ahh ok
[06:08] <pixil9> i went slack freebsd debian ubuntu
[06:08] <pixil9> heh
[06:08] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646 you may find most of the usefull/best apps used
[06:08] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, i hope that shoul help you
[06:08] <dazed> it was in net-admin on warty...they took it out in hoary
[06:08] <Sim2> sorry for the pm.. i thought "sure" meant something else
[06:09] <transgress> does kubuntu come with gnome and kde?
[06:09] <membreya> transgress: kde only
[06:09] <membreya> hence the K
[06:10] <transgress> membreya: well it didn't quite make it clear on the site...
[06:10] <transgress> i should've gone with kubuntu heh... i do prefer kde somewhat... but oh well... do me good to go for a change
[06:10] <Tuxicity> Should I mount my 2nd HDD in /mnt or in /media ?
[06:10] <pixil9> cool gnomebaker.. been looking for a damn cd burning program
[06:10] <pixil9> Tuxicity, wherever the hell you want.. mine is /winxp
[06:11] <Tuxicity> What's the difference between /mnt and /media?
[06:11] <FR500> is anyone using snmp on a linux machine?
[06:11] <XplOzIon> Anyone know how to install bmp-docklet-1.2 plugin?? i cant install it...
[06:11] <pixil9> Tuxicity, Nothing. They're called "directories"
[06:11] <dazed> Tuxicity: they are just mounting directories...you cant mount anywhere not just those 2 places
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> media makes more sense
[06:12] <membreya> pixil9: k3b is so much better
[06:12] <FR500> XplOzIon, you need to apt-get the dependencies dpkg tells you to
[06:12] <dazed> k3b owns
[06:12] <dazed> all
[06:12] <scott> anyone had problems installing gnome icon themes on hoary? I install them and they show up in the menu but when I select them they don't take effect
[06:13] <pixil9> membreya, for burning?
[06:13] <scorpix_> when i try to install mplayer i got this problem
[06:13] <scorpix_> mplayer-custom: Depends: libavcodec2 but it is not installable
[06:13] <dazed> scorpix_: try 'apt-get -f install' to install dependancy packages
[06:14] <scorpix_> dazed: i got the same problem
[06:14] <frank_> is there another mplayer package (non custom)
[06:14] <dazed> scorpix_: try this for me 'sudo apt-get install libavcodec2'
[06:14] <scorpix_> yes
[06:15] <pixil9> membreya, Will it work with gnome?
[06:15] <jay> help: GNOME works like crap on my dual displays.... it's recognizing it as one BIG display. is there any workaround for this?
[06:15] <XplOzIon> FR500, i actually havent do anything. I mean like what file i need to open? wich file tells me that i need the dependences?
[06:15] <scorpix_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:15] <scorpix_>   libavcodec2: Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed
[06:15] <scorpix_>                Depends: libvorbisenc2 (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed
[06:16] <membreya> pixil9: yes it will
[06:16] <dazed> well you can download each individual package if -f install isnt working or you can do a dif. mplayer package
[06:16] <dazed> scorpix_: if your using synaptic it should auto select dependencies
[06:17] <chombee> I don't suppose anyone know how to make SoundJuicer rip faster? It's excruciatingly slow on every machine I've tried, both Warty and Hoary, and I've never found a solution
[06:17] <pixil9> membreya, ok thx
[06:17] <chombee> I turned paranoia down to 0 and managed to get it up to 3.0x, but that's all
[06:18] <corvus_> Hope this isn't a stupid question, but is there a gui utility to allow for the listing and stopping of running processess?
[06:18] <kkathman> greetings all :)
[06:18] <frank_> streamtuner ROCKS!
[06:18] <scorpix_> dazed: the same with synaptic
[06:18] <scorpix_> how can i play dvds without mplayer?
[06:18] <Tuxicity> corvus_, System Monitor in Applicatioins --> System tools
[06:18] <scorpix_> i have xine installed and libdvdcss2
[06:18] <XplOzIon> scorpix_, xine-ui - The xine video player, user interface for playing dvd's and such
[06:18] <leek`_-> can someone help me with what would seem to be a simple problem? - im trying to change my resolution but the highest option i have is 1024x768
[06:19] <dazed> scorpix_: odd must not have all your repos open then or something...and xine-ui plays dvds
[06:19] <meng> mess around with xorg.connf?
[06:19] <leek`_-> meng, yea i added the higher res' tot xorg.conf
[06:19] <kkathman> leek`_: during the install, did you select the various resolutions you could use?
[06:20] <leek`_-> kkathman, during installation i wasnt asked, but i have added them to my xorg.conf
[06:20] <kkathman> leek`_- I assume you tried right clicking the desktop, going to configure and choosing the display?
[06:20] <corvus_> Tuxicity, you rule, thanks :)
[06:20] <kkathman> leek`_- or used the system tools to change your resolution
[06:21] <leek`_-> yea from the system tools 1024x768 is the highest it goes
[06:21] <leek`_-> rightclicking desktop doesnt give me any configuring options
[06:21] <chombee> leek - did you just upgrade to hoary?
[06:21] <Tuxicity> corvus_, np:)
[06:21] <frank_> leek`_-, need to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:21] <kkathman> leek`_- sorry I was thinking KDE
[06:21] <leek`_-> chombee, i just did a fresh install of whatever the latest version is
[06:21] <leek`_-> frank_, what else do i need to modify in xorg.conf ?
[06:22] <kkathman> leek`_- check with your monitor specs and be sure you have the appropriate match between resolutions and the sync frequencies too
[06:22] <leek`_-> kkathman, im not exactly sure what that means or how i could go about doing that
[06:23] <leek`_-> kkathman, i just know 1600x1200 works on windows and i want it on here
[06:23] <frank_> leek`_-, The resolutions and the display specs  HorixFreg, VertSync
[06:23] <kkathman> leek`_- in your xorg.conf you have resolutions and you have horiz and vert frequencies...some resolutions require or allow certain frequencies while others do not...check the specs that came with your monitor/panel
[06:24] <chombee> Am I going crazy? Am I the only Ubuntu user who has noticed it takes an hour to rip a CD??
[06:24] <leek`_-> kkathman, my xorg.conf doesnt contain anything about horz or vert frequencies, should it?
[06:24] <burner> chombee, turn off the error checking in grip
[06:24] <kkathman> leek`_- it should I believe
[06:25] <frank_> leek`_-, In some section its there
[06:25] <leek`_-> frank_, its actually not, 1 sec while i upload my xorg.conf
[06:25] <frank_> Generic Monitor or somethin
[06:25] <CitizenKane> if anyone has installed the linux version of wolfenstein enemy territory you might be able to help me
[06:26] <kkathman> leek`_- try this maube this will help:  http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/xorg.conf.5.html
[06:26] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, hey.. it's no working... I'm using bmp + shoutcast.... and there's no audio stream :(
[06:26] <pixil9> How can i find out which packages I don't need?
[06:26] <frank_> leek`_-, Section Monitor
[06:26] <pixil9> deborphan isn't doing shit
[06:26] <leek`_-> frank_, http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=37997
[06:26] <leek`_-> kkathman, i will check it out
[06:27] <leek`_-> frank_, am i retarded?
[06:27] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, hmmm its weird, when you click on the "link" it says that it will be opened by bmp by default?
[06:27] <chombee> burner - disable paranoia?
[06:28] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, man, did you understand what I want to do? I want to stream audio, not to listen to stream...
[06:29] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, I want to provide a radio, not listening to...
[06:29] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, oh im sorry man! i miss understand you! =(
[06:30] <brazmetal> eheheheheh
[06:30] <brazmetal> :(
[06:30] <brazmetal> so again..
[06:30] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, my bad man. But hey isnt there a linux version of the shoutcast-server ?
[06:30] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, yes, I'm using it
[06:31] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, but we need the encoder...
[06:31] <brazmetal> A program "make" the stream.... shoutcast is just a server
[06:33] <discord> you fools dont know a damn thing about wireless
[06:33] <pixil9> That's because I live in northern russia and we just got got pentium 2s
[06:33] <pixil9> no wireless for years :(
[06:35] <HillTop> I just upgraded my Warty to Hoary and a lot of things don't really work. For starters, how do I play a music CD. I put it in and thought in Warty it launched xmms I think. Now nothing. Can't play a wav file on my music CD??
[06:35] <crimsun> HillTop: it should start the gnome cd player
[06:35] <Tuxicity> HillTop, use the CD player
[06:35] <brazmetal> does someone here stream audio via Icecast/shoutcast?
[06:36] <bet0x> hey how i see my all scsi stuff?
[06:36] <bet0x> hi crimsun 3733t helper
[06:36] <crimsun> brazmetal: I do
[06:36] <crimsun> 'lo bet0x
[06:37] <bet0x> lo?
[06:37] <HillTop> I hit the file browser and right click on a selection - play with xmms - can't read it.
[06:37] <crimsun> bet0x: [hel] lo
[06:37] <brazmetal> crimsun, icecast ou shoutcast?
[06:37] <CitizenKane> if anyone has installed the linux version of wolfenstein enemy territory i could use some help
[06:37] <crimsun> brazmetal: ices2->icecast2
[06:37] <bet0x> crimsun, how i see my scsi stuff
[06:37] <brazmetal> :(
[06:37] <crimsun> bet0x: could you rephrase please?
[06:37] <HillTop> Tuxicity	CD player says drive error - but file viewer can see files there.
[06:37] <dr_willis> CitizenKane,  not lately. :P but whats the problem? cant connect to any servers due to version mismatch?
[06:38] <brazmetal> crimsun, is ices2 the encoder?
[06:38] <bet0x> crimsun, i have a hd scsi but i dont know the real driver information, such a name , vendor etc,
[06:38] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, no, I downloaded and then installed it, just giving me a blank screen instead of loading
[06:38] <crimsun> brazmetal: yes
[06:39] <dr_willis> CitizenKane,  hmm ya downloaded it from the rtcw:ET home page? or where
[06:39] <bet0x> scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.36
[06:39] <bet0x> done
[06:39] <HillTop> And now with Hoary upgrade from Warty I can't view pdf files. :(
[06:39] <bet0x> Vendor: IBM       Model: DDRS-34560D       Rev: DC1B
[06:39] <crimsun> bet0x: but isn't that the make & model?
[06:39] <bet0x> yeP
[06:40] <brazmetal> crimsun, can it be used with shoutcast?
[06:40] <Unfrgiven> is it a good idea to apt-get dist-upgrade from debian/sid to ubuntu? is it even possible?
[06:40] <bet0x> crimsun, how i auto-mount a drive on gnome?
[06:40] <XplOzIon> How do i extrac a file compresed in multiples RAR files? For example a movie in movie.rar, movie.r01 and so??
[06:40] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, downloaded it from http://www.mrbass.org/enemyterritory/
[06:40] <crimsun> brazmetal: I use ices2 with icecast2
[06:40] <leek`_-> frank_, thanks... it worked :D
[06:40] <crimsun> brazmetal: I don't have any experience feeding ices2 into shoutcast
[06:40] <crimsun> bet0x: plug it in
[06:41] <bet0x> its pluged
[06:41] <bet0x> my new scsi
[06:41] <bet0x> :d
[06:41] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, use "unrar" on the .rar file
[06:41] <crimsun> bet0x: did you create a new partition table and create a filesystem on it?
[06:41] <Unfrgiven> nm i found out...
[06:42] <XplOzIon> Tuxicity, do i need rar archiver?
[06:42] <pixil9> unrar always fucks up for me.. use rar x <file>
[06:42] <bet0x> no
[06:42] <dr_willis> CitizenKane,  downloading it now.. lets see.. - you do hacve 3d working in other tames?
[06:42] <bet0x> crimsun, where i create that?
[06:42] <pixil9> just apt-get install rar
[06:42] <pixil9> rar x <file>
[06:42] <crimsun> bet0x: using cfdisk and the mkfs.* tools
[06:42] <frank_> leek[sleep] , Great
[06:42] <crimsun> bet0x: please refer to the wiki
[06:42] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, you need to apt-get install unrar
[06:43] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, in windows at least, haven't tried on linux yet
[06:43] <bet0x> crimsun, on the /etc/fstab
[06:43] <bet0x> :D
[06:43] <Tuxicity> XplOzIon, or what pixil9 said...
[06:43] <HillTop> Oh this is just great! I play a music CD with Totem movie player. Oh yea, I remember someone complaining about that. Grief.
[06:43] <Tuxicity> Is it a good idea to use prelinking in Ubuntu (Gnome)?
[06:43] <XplOzIon> Tuxicity, sudo apt-get install rar aint working says: sudo: must be setuid root
[06:43] <HillTop> Also I had installed acrobat and now it is nowhere to be found.
[06:44] <dr_willis> CitizenKane,  lol. :P you cant get the game working in windows?
[06:44] <_phate_> is the a ubuntu package for 7zip?
[06:44] <Tuxicity> HillTop, I think you can use the PostScript Viewer to view .pdf, not sure
[06:44] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, no, in windows a couple have worked just fine
[06:45] <kkathman> HillTop you might try  "whereis" on the package...chances are its in /usr/bin
[06:45] <dr_willis> CitizenKane,  just a couple?
[06:45] <Jeezis> how do i check my uptime?
[06:46] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, let me put it this way, every one that I have used has worked
[06:46] <b2s> XplOzIon: is your sudo file not setuid root?
[06:46] <b2s> Jeezis: go to a terminal and time "uptime"
[06:46] <kkathman> Jeezis you could try gkrellm as a monitor and uptime keeper
[06:46] <b2s> er "type"
[06:46] <Jeezis> ok, thanks guys :)
[06:46] <XplOzIon> b2s, i dont know. first time i see that
[06:46] <Juhaz> hmm
[06:47] <Juhaz> is anyone using non-utf8 locale?
[06:47] <HillTop> With Hoary upgrade from Warty -- my install of NVU servived.. :)
[06:47] <b2s> XplOzIon: that looks like a bad message.  ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[06:47] <XplOzIon> b2s, whats the default chmod for /usr/ ??
[06:48] <b2s> XplOzIon: my /usr/ is 755, why?
[06:49] <XplOzIon> b2s, someone did "sudo chmod -R 777 /usr/"
[06:49] <geppy> Is Beagle going to make it into Breezy?
[06:49] <XplOzIon> b2s, how do i change it back?
[06:49] <crimsun> more than likely, geppy.
[06:49] <geppy> crimsun: Are the mono issues getting worked out?
[06:49] <pixil9> Fucking samba.
[06:49] <brazmetal> does someone here stream audio via shoutcast?
[06:49] <b2s> XplOzIon: eek! why?
[06:49] <crimsun> geppy: yep
[06:49] <kkathman> pixil9 whats wrong w/samba?
[06:50] <XplOzIon> b2s, stopid friend thinks its a linux wiseass =(
[06:50] <geppy> crimsun: Do you know if Beagle is currently packaged for Breezy?  That'd be reason enough to go back to unstable... =)
[06:50] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, glxgears worked, but i don't think that's the best indicator :P
[06:50] <kkathman> howdy there _chavo :)
[06:50] <XplOzIon> b2s, i did "chmod -R 755 /usr/"
[06:50] <pixil9> kkathman, Well I should be bitching at ubuntu for improperly setting shit up.. I goto System, Administration, Shared Folders.. add a share
[06:50] <XplOzIon> b2s, that will change it back to its default?
[06:50] <crimsun> geppy: don't believe so; check on p.u.c
[06:50] <pixil9> and check read-only.. yet it demands a user/pass from my winbox
[06:50] <geppy> crimsun: Alright; thanks! =)
[06:50] <_chavo> hello kkathman.
[06:50] <b2s> XplOzIon: no it won't.
[06:51] <XplOzIon> b2s, what will?... grrrr damn the friends! heh
[06:51] <kkathman> pixil9 Yep thats true, you have to set up a few things first...but its easy...go to the old warty userguide and follow the samba instructions...works like a champ
[06:51] <b2s> you need to do chmod 4755 on /usr/bin/sudo (and possibly others) but I don't think you can unless you are root
[06:51] <HillTop> kkathman	acruread is in /usr/bin - now how do I get it working again?  Open with functions seem broken. Example, a .txt file right click to open with gedit fails. .pdf open with anything - the default app fails.
[06:51] <pixil9> kkathman, I'll fix it with swat ;/
[06:52] <pixil9> haha found a bug too
[06:52] <pixil9> add a share in there with a $ sign to hide it
[06:52] <pixil9> it fucks up and lists it like 20 times
[06:52] <XTCboarder> what's the name of the typical macosx screensaver under ubuntu?
[06:52] <kkathman> pixil9 typically the standard install doesnt do everything
[06:52] <kkathman> pixil9 Try looking at this:  http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#installsamba
[06:52] <XplOzIon> b2s, so what shoul i do then?
[06:53] <kkathman> pixil9 I have 3 linux and 3 windows boxes on my network and everyone sees everyone just fine and I can move everything around
[06:53] <pixil9> kkathman, thx
[06:53] <kkathman> pixil9 no prob, glad to help :)
[06:54] <b2s> XplOzIon: well, I don't think you can get to root now under ubuntu.  you can probably reboot to single user mode.  or you could boot from cd
[06:54] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, no ideas?
[06:54] <_phate_> what do I need to apt-get for SDL?
[06:55] <Tuxicity> _phate_, must be libsdl?
[06:55] <pixil9> kkathman, good guide
[06:55] <XplOzIon> b2s, thanks, ill see what i can do fix this
[06:56] <kkathman> pixil9 Yep it absolutely works without a hitch
[06:56] <transgress> hey does ubuntu update generic kernels ala fedora?  i'm just curious
[06:56] <b2s> XplOzIon: your permissions are probably all messed up. but the one that is hurting you the most is the permissions on sudo.
[06:57] <kkathman> the peril of not having a REAL root Im afraid
[06:57] <XplOzIon> heh true
[06:57] <HillTop> In hoary I click on a .sxc file to launch OOo and get an error but if I open OOo first I can open the file. :(
[06:57] <geneo93> kkathman:  you can do sudo passwd root and have one
[06:58] <kkathman> geneo93 yep
[06:58] <geneo93> hey i have no trouble using it
[06:59] <dr_willis> CitizenKane,  getting a black screen on RTCW: under linux, and glxgears works eh?
[06:59] <inc> sup channel
[06:59] <hobocop> hello dr_willis is the man to talk to
[06:59] <hobocop> he answers all the questions
[06:59] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, that's correct, glxgears works fine, RTCW gets a blank screen
[06:59] <hobocop> oh right link me kane
[07:00] <hobocop> I need to download that
[07:00] <hobocop> :)
[07:00] <dr_willis> you running et from a shell? seeing any error mssages at all?
[07:00] <inc> i must say hoary has been pretty freaking awsome
[07:00] <Dreamer3_> ok, is there some option in evolutoin to turn off evolution-alarm-daemon that likes to stick around and hog up memory?
[07:01] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, just ran it using a gnome link, didn't see any error messages
[07:01] <dr_willis> try it from a shell. and theres dozens of shell options to test. it may even make a lot file.
[07:01] <dr_willis> the thing is still installing for me - lol
[07:02] <pixil9> ooo I should download wolfenstein
[07:02] <transgress> okay now to write out a wiki doc
[07:02] <pixil9> do you still need a cdkey to play online?
[07:02] <hobocop> nope
[07:02] <CitizenKane> dr_wills, i will give it a try
[07:02] <hobocop> not RTCWET
[07:02] <pixil9> what is that
[07:02] <hobocop> it is a online version only
[07:02] <hobocop> http://www.mrbass.org/enemyterritory/
[07:02] <pixil9> Can I download it?
[07:02] <hobocop> yes
[07:02] <hobocop> it is free
[07:03] <pixil9> cool.
[07:03] <dr_willis> RTCW:ET is a free multiplayer only variation of RTCW :P its Great
[07:03] <pixil9> downloading now
[07:03] <pixil9> but i only have a 1 ghz processor
[07:03] <hobocop> yes it is quite good for a linux game
[07:03] <pixil9> so i guess i should stop
[07:03] <dr_willis> hmm its not in any of the  sources eh.. cant just apt-get it. :(
[07:03] <hobocop> no you can lower the details
[07:03] <hobocop> ya I wish dr
[07:03] <hobocop> that would be p.i.m.p
[07:03] <dr_willis> its based on the quake3 engine - so its not super machine needed. :P
[07:04] <inc> apt-get into it
[07:04] <hobocop> :)
[07:04] <pixil9> So i want the 260mb Linux Full Game 2.60?
[07:04] <yoink> excuse me, can anyone tell me why when i write to my usbdrive it doesnt show up when i plug it back in later?
[07:04] <yoink> i dont get errors, the changes just dont stay
[07:05] <inc> hmm..i just pluged my ipod shuffle and hoary likes it... haven't tried writing to it yet
[07:05] <kkathman> yoink what do you mean "when I write to my usb drive"  are we talking a plug in?
[07:05] <dr_willis> stupid insteller was hung.. :P
[07:05] <inc> yoink, i'll see if i have similar issue
[07:05] <dr_willis> pixil9,  yea.
[07:05] <yoink> yeah, usbkey
[07:05] <Trickyphillips> I'm able to write to my Maxtor 80GB external fine.
[07:05] <Trickyphillips> Are you sure the drive is OK?
[07:05] <yoink> sorry, i was unclear
[07:06] <yoink> yeah, its always worked fine in windows...
[07:06] <kkathman> yoink so, you wrote a file to that drive and its not there later?
[07:06] <pixil9> is tribes 2 any good?
[07:06] <yoink> right...after i unplug and plug it back in
[07:06] <dr_willis> pixil9,  its a neat game.. for an older game..
[07:06] <yoink> its empty again
[07:06] <inc> ok unmounting it
[07:06] <dr_willis> pixil9,  a lot different then many other first person shooters
[07:06] <pixil9> ah
[07:06] <pixil9> I'm still in love with UT1
[07:06] <pixil9> play it everyday
[07:06] <yoink> yeah, i unmount it, then unplug
[07:06] <bet0x> crimsun, i have formated my /dev/sda1 i want to add this partition to my system
[07:07] <bet0x> how i do it?
[07:07] <kkathman> yoink  ok, so you mount it...write...then unmount, pull it out, then try to read it somewhere else or on that same machine?
[07:07] <hobocop> do they have a linux version of UT:GOTY?
[07:07] <pixil9> hobocop: ya
[07:07] <yoink> i tried to read it on the same machine
[07:07] <hobocop> :):)::):):):)
[07:07] <hobocop> where
[07:07] <pixil9> hobocop: pain in the ass through if you only have cd1.
[07:08] <hobocop> I have cd:0
[07:08] <pixil9> both cds?
[07:08] <hobocop> no 0 cds
[07:08] <kkathman> yoink  you mounted again, and theres nothing there
[07:08] <inc> yoink, i was any to write to mine
[07:08] <bet0x> any know how i add a new partition on boot ?
[07:08] <pixil9> o
[07:08] <mello> Hey guys, I need some quick advice. When I get to the GRUB Booter, it says I have two different versions of Ubuntu running, and I think it's just based off of the kernels. Is it okay if I delete the lines with the old kernel in them? I just want to make it a little nicer looking.
[07:08] <pixil9> Well can u get the cds?
[07:08] <bet0x> i have a new disk and i want to mount after init my machine
[07:08] <hobocop> I can get the one cd
[07:08] <hobocop> I didnt know there was 2
[07:08] <pixil9> http://download.beyondunreal.com/fileworks.php/official/ut/ut-install-436-goty.run
[07:08] <pixil9> well if you have one cd
[07:09] <pixil9> you might wanna speak to me about getting it to run.
[07:09] <kkathman> yoink check your USB device to be sure its not in "write protect" mode  I know that sounds rudimentary, but its happened to me :)
[07:09] <pixil9> fuckers made me spend like 15 hours figuring it out
[07:09] <yoink> you mean on the actual thing?  it doesnt have that option i dont think
[07:09] <hobocop> talking --->
[07:10] <inc> some usb drives have a write protect switch
[07:10] <dr_willis> well its wrorking for me  :P
[07:10] <dr_willis> ETCW:ET is such a fun game and the price is so right.
[07:10] <inc> usually u'd get an error writing to it
[07:10] <corvus_> mello, if it's like fedora's grub then you just have two editions of the kernal, one new and one you have upgraded...wait till you check everyting out and make sure your comfortable with the new one before deleting the old..
[07:10] <yoink> yeah, no errors, thats whats frusterating
[07:10] <kkathman> yoink well mine does so ok... Im stumped...cuz if the device was unwriteable you should get a msg back
[07:11] <pixil9> I'm 63% doen ETCW
[07:11] <djones> mello, I'd keep the old kernel. You never know.
[07:11] <pixil9> or whatever
[07:11] <mello> corvus_: I've been using the new one for weeks now, and it runs great with Hoary.
[07:11] <yoink> hmm...it automounts when that window comes up, right?
[07:11] <inc> you add file via command line yoink?
[07:11] <corvus_> then delete the line if the only concern is looks...
[07:11] <Crane> what is etcw
[07:11] <Crane> ??
[07:11] <mello> djones: right.. dang. oh well. you've got a good point, but i just hate it all cluttered and junk
[07:11] <kkathman> yoink  how did you write to it. Is it possible that you wrote out using sudo or something and trying to do an ls -l  and its not showing the file?
[07:11] <yoink> yeah...just vi'd one there
[07:11] <inc> or from gui?
[07:12] <dr_willis> rtcw:et  :P
[07:12] <yoink> possibly...
[07:12] <yoink> hold on, ill check
[07:12] <inc> where does it mount the device?
[07:12] <Crane> lol oh my bad, fun game!!
[07:12] <corvus_> but just by deleting the line you don't nessecarily have to delte the actual kernel
[07:12] <yoink> usbdisk
[07:13] <inc> so /media/usbdisk
[07:13] <yoink> yeah, oops
[07:13] <kkathman> yoink maybe you could do a sudo ls -al /usbdisk
[07:13] <kkathman> or whatever your mount point is
[07:13] <inc> yoink, oops? lol not good
[07:14] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, tried running it from the shell, just had a black screen with a cursor on it
[07:14] <inc> also if you cat /etc/mtab it should come up there
[07:14] <yoink> k, hold on, im trying just transferring using the file browser
[07:14] <dr_willis> CitizenKane,  odd...
[07:14] <dr_willis> CitizenKane,  what video card ya got?
[07:14] <hobocop> he is gone
[07:14] <inc> i'd just touch a test file
[07:14] <hobocop> Ioh he is back
[07:14] <hobocop> 5200
[07:14] <kkathman> inc yep
[07:15] <hobocop> an nvidia 5200 dr
[07:15] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, intel 915GM
[07:15] <kkathman> touch /media/usbdisk/foo.tst
[07:15] <hobocop> video card
[07:15] <yoink> vice?
[07:15] <yoink> Crane lol oh my bad, fun game!!
[07:15] <yoink> corvus_ but just by deleting the line you don't nessecarily have to delte the actual kernel
[07:15] <yoink> * seb128 has quit ("Leaving")
[07:15] <dazed> my usbdisks dont get recognized when i plug em in
[07:15] <HillTop> So in Hoary how do we view pdf?  The pdf viewer is missing from the menu after I upgraded from Warty! :(
[07:16] <dr_willis> CitizenKane,  so it installed right.. you run it from shell with..   './et' - Hmm..   try the excape an ~ key - see if that gets ya to a menu.
[07:16] <kkathman> dazed cuz linux isnt exactly plug and play
[07:16] <yoink> yeah nothing going with the ls -al
[07:16] <kkathman> dazed did you create a mount point?
[07:16] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, ok, i'll be back in a bit
[07:16] <dazed> kkathman: but they do on my laptop and they did on warty
[07:16] <inc> what comes up when u cat /etc/mtab
[07:16] <pixil9> I'd suggest running all games as root
[07:17] <kkathman> yoink try doing   touch /media/usbdisk/foo.tst   then looking for it
[07:17] <pixil9> UT won't run as a user.
[07:17] <dr_willis> my usb thumb drives and hard drives are seen.
[07:17] <dr_willis> pixil9,  it SHOULD be able to run as a user.
[07:17] <shad0w1e> anyoine here know how to install GOTY unreal tournament?
[07:17] <dazed> kkathman: how do i create a mount point for usb disks
[07:17] <inc> paste in #flood yoink
[07:17] <pixil9> o well
[07:17] <yoink> umm, i cant paste it can i?
[07:17] <pixil9> i'll run it as root
[07:17] <hobocop> can I log in as root at the login screen :)
[07:17] <pixil9> i'm installing it now
[07:17] <inc> in #flood
[07:17] <yoink> usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
[07:17] <hobocop> root/rootpassword doesnt work :)
[07:17] <inc> not here
[07:18] <yoink> is that important?
[07:18] <bob2> hobocop: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:18] <kkathman> dazed  just create a dir probably under /media
[07:18] <dazed> kkathman: 'usbdisk' directory? then what?
[07:18] <kkathman> dazed then associate that device in your fstab
[07:18] <inc> just trying to see what ur sys is calling it
[07:18] <shad0w1e> anyone know how to get GNOME working right on dual displays (two monitors) ?
[07:19] <yoink> k, done
[07:19] <stuNNed> shad0w1e: have tried with projector
[07:19] <shad0w1e> stuNNed: what?
[07:19] <kkathman> dazed:  try looking at this:   http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#listusbdevices
[07:19] <dazed> hmm
[07:19] <stuNNed> shad0w1e: nothing.
[07:19] <dazed> kkathman: i think hoary has better usb support then having to do that...
[07:19] <dazed> cuz it worked automatically on warty
[07:19] <yoink> kkathman, the files always show until i unplug and replug
[07:20] <pixil9> nice!!! it's working perfect
[07:20] <pixil9> thanks for the info on etcw :)
[07:20] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, tried to escape it and it didn't work
[07:20] <kkathman> yoink thats kinda odd.
[07:20] <dr_willis> CitizenKane,  well wheni run it./ it does print out a lot of messages to the shell - no errors no nothint eh?
[07:21] <inc> yoink, looks ok
[07:21] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, ya, it prints out loading messages
[07:21] <inc> you tested this usbdrive in another system?
[07:21] <dazed> kkathman: lsusb picks up all my usb ports...with the correct media in each
[07:21] <yoink> yeah, i dunno...maybe ill test it on a friends windows comp...maybe its broken or something
[07:21] <yoink> i have before, but not REALLY lately
[07:21] <CitizenKane> dr_willis, i have no idea what the problem might be
[07:22] <inc> not a microsoft usbdrive is it? lol
[07:22] <pixil9> How do i join a team?
[07:22] <pixil9> I was just spectating
[07:22] <dr_willis> pixil9,  in rtce: ?
[07:22] <pixil9> btw it was perfectly smooth 1024x768 with 1066MHz & geforce 2 pro
[07:22] <dr_willis> pixil9,  in rtcw?
[07:22] <kkathman> yoink when you take the thumbdrive out, can you do an ls -al on /media/usbdrive ?
[07:22] <pixil9> ya
[07:23] <pixil9> the shit i just downloaded
[07:23] <yoink> ill check
[07:23] <dr_willis> normally ya go to a  limbo menu and click the side/class you want to play - then theres a spawn delay
[07:23] <yoink> kkathman, nope!
[07:23] <pixil9> what is the limbo menu?
[07:23] <dr_willis> (L) for limbo I think.
[07:23] <yoink> so thats good i guess...
[07:23] <pixil9> o
[07:23] <pixil9> ok thx
[07:23] <pixil9> lemme try
[07:23] <CitizenKane> pixil9, press L and you can choose class and team
[07:23] <inc> yoink you have more than one usb port?/
[07:23] <yoink> at least i have the mount point right
[07:23] <yoink> uh...yeah, like 4...2 in front
[07:24] <pixil9> nice
[07:24] <kkathman> yoink  ah ok....yes  I thought for some reason the file was going to a physical directory...that result means that you DID associate the drive to the mountpoint I suppose
[07:24] <pixil9> k brb
[07:24] <yoink> gtg, thanks for the help so far guys...im sure ill be back
[07:24] <yoink> you guys are very helpful though
[07:24] <inc> try switching ports
[07:24] <kkathman> yoink  have you done a dmesg  to make sure the USB is ok?
[07:25] <yoink> ill do it later i guess...gotta get some late night mcD's
[07:25] <kkathman> hehe... kewl yoink :)
[07:25] <inc> hehe
[07:26] <danko123456> McD's
[07:26] <danko123456> :)
[07:26] <geneo93> mcd's sucks
[07:26] <inc> i can feel my blood vessels harden
[07:26] <Atholas> Is there a branch in Ubuntu that is always the development branch like sid in Debian?
[07:26] <dotnick> has anyone here run gentoo for a while and then switched to ubuntu?
[07:26] <hobocop> pixil I require your assitence
[07:26] <inc> eww gentoo
[07:26] <hobocop> because I am having a raging boner that I can run UT natively
[07:27] <dotnick> inc: that's all i've run for the past 3 years...
[07:27] <danko123456> geneo93: Im gonna go catch me some late night SuperSize Me!
[07:28] <inc> dotnick, ubuntu is the most user friend version of linux i've tried heh
[07:28] <dotnick> i'm a little curious about how fast new packages make into the repositories....
[07:28] <seeker> Jeezis, are you therer?
[07:28] <danko123456> a couple of days
[07:28] <transgress> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowtoUseNdiswrapperOnAmd64Ubuntu <-- not completely lazy
[07:28] <danko123456> :)
[07:28] <inc> dotnick, pretty fast
[07:28] <pixil9> DAMN THX SO MUCH. I LOVE WOLF :p
[07:28] <dr_willis> pixil9,  lol. :P
[07:28] <dotnick> inc: how many versions have you tried? ... because if its only one.. its not saying much :-p
[07:28] <transgress> b2s: you still around?
[07:29] <pixil9> god now i won't get a job for another week
[07:29] <dr_willis> pixil9,  shame..  :P
[07:29] <pixil9> hahaha
[07:29] <danko123456> heh
[07:29] <Atholas> inc: not firefox 1.0.3 though.
[07:29] <dr_willis> pixil9,  repeate after me "Would you like to biggy size that Glutton meal sir?"
[07:30] <inc> flavors of linux? i've tried debian-sarge, gentoo, redhat-fedora, slackware, damn small linux, freebsd
[07:30] <danko123456> I like chocolate and vanilla most
[07:30] <kkathman> lol
[07:30] <inc> those too lol
[07:30] <danko123456> I always come to this channel and spam it with stpid jokes.
[07:31] <Atholas> inc: are the packages in fedora really as up-to-date as they claim? I am wanting to try it, but am too comfortable with Ubuntu to swap :)
[07:31] <inc> no one like strawberry
[07:31] <pixil9> fuck fedora
[07:31] <danko123456> its ok, too.
[07:31] <danko123456> yeah, why do that?
[07:31] <kkathman> fedora is bloated
[07:31] <danko123456> Ubuntu is theway to go.
[07:31] <pixil9> ubuntu rox
[07:31] <danko123456> Agreed.
[07:31] <dazed> ubu is for winners
[07:32] <inc> i need to fix fedora at wok all the time.. you can get apt-get for fedora and fuck up-to-date
[07:32] <inc> lol
[07:32] <Atholas> lol
[07:32] <danko123456> lets see how my installation of Mplayer goes.
[07:32] <Atholas> Then I won't even bother with Fedora..
[07:32] <thegreedyturtle> my favorite is apple
[07:32] <inc> apple?? wtf
[07:32] <danko123456> Apple what?
[07:32] <thegreedyturtle> flavor
[07:32] <danko123456> Yeah, its ok..
[07:32] <danko123456> Sour, or sweet?
[07:32] <inc> washington?
[07:33] <inc> granny smith?
[07:33] <inc> lol
[07:33] <danko123456> The big apple?
[07:33] <thegreedyturtle> i like my apples like i like my women - sour and puckered.
[07:33] <inc> NEW YORK NEW YORK!!!!
[07:33] <danko123456> INC!!!
[07:33] <danko123456> Tha INC:)
[07:33] <danko123456> wow
[07:33] <inc> haha
[07:33] <danko123456> whats that animal?
[07:34] <danko123456> C:)
[07:34] <danko123456> awesome.
[07:34] <hobocop> I like my apples like I like my women
[07:34] <danko123456> noone has any problems?
[07:34] <hobocop> with big breasts
[07:34] <danko123456> hahahaha
[07:34] <danko123456> lol
[07:34] <thegreedyturtle> heheh
[07:34] <thegreedyturtle> genetically modifed?
[07:34] <danko123456> thats just funny.
[07:34] <danko123456> I would go for that.
[07:34] <inc> Atholas, i've used fedora on my little test lappy here and this new version of ubuntu works with all my hardware right out the box
[07:34] <hobocop> all natural boi
[07:34] <transgress> okay now to see how long the battery last on ubuntu
[07:34] <hobocop> cmon
[07:34] <transgress> had it go for about 4 hours on windows
[07:35] <danko123456> Do you have Bluetooth in the laptop?
[07:35] <thegreedyturtle> http://www6.tomshardware.com/mobile/20050418/index.html
[07:35] <inc> nah
[07:35] <thegreedyturtle> get a 'battery life activator!' today!
[07:36] <danko123456> hehe
[07:36] <inc> we got spammer in here now?
[07:36] <thegreedyturtle> haha
[07:36] <danko123456> a spammer, or just spammer?
[07:36] <danko123456> THat guy spammer, right.
[07:36] <thegreedyturtle> =P
[07:36] <thegreedyturtle> im hurt
[07:36] <danko123456> Or is spammer something else?
[07:36] <danko123456> I hate when someone says I produced spam...
[07:37] <danko123456> Its like, youre leaking spam, dude...
[07:37] <mfinch> I have a hotswap HDD USB caddy that I use to copy files to my server.  I use this to backup "crashed" Windows machines.  Are their any utilites that can browse/mount HDD partition in Linux?  I do that by hand generally... just curious.
[07:37] <inc> a sleezy salesman of wares lol
[07:37] <seeker> check this out - http://dev.gentoo.org/~lewk/img/vim.gif  it had me ROFLing!
[07:37] <thegreedyturtle> "we're sorry, you've been blacklisted. Feel free to pound your head against the wall"
[07:37] <thegreedyturtle> HAHAHAHA
[07:37] <inc> pound sand??? how dare you
[07:37] <inc> lol
[07:38] <danko123456> mfinch: like what a GUI tool?
[07:38] <inc> danko123456, don't like fried spam?
[07:39] <danko123456> I like how installing MPlayer takes so long to install.
[07:39] <mfinch> dankol: yes.  Most tools are for disk management and not mounting.  qparted for example.
[07:39] <danko123456> Yeah, I heard they eat spam.
[07:39] <thegreedyturtle> try doing it with yum...
[07:39] <oohlala> how do I change my username on my system ?
[07:39] <danko123456> oohlala: like what, change it to a different one, and stay the same person?
[07:39] <oohlala> yes
[07:39] <danko123456> Just change the username?
[07:39] <inc> yum.. then evil fedora tool
[07:39] <transgress> yum would take almost as long as emerge... except not custom compiled heh
[07:39] <thegreedyturtle> tastes like burning
[07:40] <seeker> how can I send a messege to someone so that he sees it in a new window?
[07:40] <danko123456> Well, create a username, and join it to all groups your current one is a member of.
[07:40] <elcu> hello, any way to set the cd read speed?  when i'm using sound juicer to rip tracks, the transfer rate is really slow, and it tells me that it will take up to half and hour.
[07:40] <danko123456> seeker: here in IRC?
[07:40] <seeker> yes
[07:40] <transgress> poor yum... forever associated with fedora when it started out for another distro
[07:40] <danko123456> mfinch: no, I have not heard of one..
[07:40] <thegreedyturtle> what distro is that?
[07:40] <danko123456> mfinch: I didnt hear of much though..
[07:40] <oohlala> not create a new one....just change the handle I go by right now...to a new one
[07:40] <oohlala> for login purposes
[07:41] <danko123456> mfinch: tried sf.net????
[07:41] <inc> that's cause apt is king and distorts all time and space
[07:41] <mfinch> dank: thanks.  Thought I would ask.  Didn't know of Ubuntu had a couple of tricks or not.
[07:41] <transgress> thegreedyturtle: ever looked at the original page for yum?
[07:41] <mfinch> drank: what is sf.net?
[07:41] <seeker> danko123456,  yes here in irc.
[07:41] <thegreedyturtle> transgress: no
[07:41] <danko123456> mfinch: maybe does, I am not really the person to ask.
[07:41] <transgress> well do you wonder what yum stands for by chance?
[07:41] <thegreedyturtle> transgress: the man page?
[07:41] <danko123456> mfinch: sourceforge.net
[07:42] <inc> transgress, let me guess slackware or something
[07:42] <transgress> it's yellow dog updated modified
[07:42] <thegreedyturtle> ah
[07:42] <transgress> *updater
[07:42] <danko123456> seeker: double click their nick on the right side...
[07:42] <thegreedyturtle> woof
[07:42] <danko123456> does that work?
[07:42] <inc> you dog you
[07:42] <seeker> danko123456, it didn't do anything...
[07:42] <danko123456> It should, you using Gaim?
[07:42] <mfinch> Dank: Sorry pulling up sf now.  I think it would be nice if Ubuntu kept the "text configurations" used in install on your Linux box.  I think their disk tools would work well enough for what I want.
[07:43] <seeker> norris, x-chat
[07:43] <inc> yes you did seeker
[07:43] <seeker> no x-chat
[07:43] <inc> it's all your fault :(
[07:43] <housetier> is it possible to install ubuntu from within a running linux system? my laptop's floppy and cdrom are broken, so I was wondering if I could start the installer by hand
[07:43] <seeker> I did waht inc?
[07:43] <bob2> housetier: no
[07:43] <bob2> housetier: you can run debootstrap, tho
[07:43] <inc> seeker,  i dunno
[07:44] <TheMuso> .clear
[07:44] <inc> but it's your fault somehow
[07:44] <inc> lol
[07:44] <thegreedyturtle> oohlala: did you get help yet?
[07:44] <seeker> test
[07:45] <danko123456> I guess that didnt work
[07:45] <danko123456> lol
[07:45] <seeker> nop didn't work. so it's not double clicking the name...
[07:45] <danko123456> get Gaim for that reason
[07:45] <housetier> so I could abuse debootstrap to create a base system of sorts... that might be enough, I dont really want to repartition
[07:45] <seeker> anyone know how to do it in x-chat?
[07:45] <brazmetal> Does someone here stream audio via shoutcast?
[07:46] <thegreedyturtle> right click the blue name then select Direct client to client offer chat?
[07:46] <LeeColleton> ping tells me that a link is down, but mii-tool sez: 'eth2: 10 Mbit, half duplex, link ok'
[07:46] <LeeColleton> what gives?
[07:46] <transgress> okay what might cause this... whenever i tri to play anything from a dvd... light music i have on a data dvd... it stops spinning and locks up
[07:46] <danko123456> seeker: ask the question again, they did not see it likely.
[07:46] <transgress> the program
[07:47] <seeker> how can I join here through gaim?
[07:47] <thegreedyturtle> seeker:right click the blue name then select Direct client to client offer chat?
[07:47] <danko123456> go tools, accounts, add an account for irc.freenode.net
[07:47] <danko123456> then file, join chat.
[07:47] <danko123456> #ubuntu
[07:48] <seeker> when I try that, he needs to accept, when danko123456 pm me I didn't need to accept
[07:48] <transgress> i wonder if my extended warranty covers linux being installed or if i have problems ima have to put windows back on this box
[07:48] <danko123456> wow the computer was just rude to me
[07:48] <danko123456> I tried running xchat as root.
[07:48] <danko123456> And he said it was stupid
[07:48] <chazwurth> transgress: Who's the hardware vendor?
[07:48] <seeker> I thought of an answer to something that Jeezis asked me, I want to leave him the anser (he is not answring now)
[07:49] <geneo93> danko123456:  running anything as root is stupid
[07:49] <transgress> for the lappy or the dvd?
[07:49] <transgress> rom
[07:49] <chazwurth> transgress: For the laptop
[07:49] <dbernar1> got it?
[07:49] <dbernar1> now youre rude too, eh?
[07:49] <dbernar1> lol
[07:49] <chazwurth> transgress: And is it an at-home service warranty?
[07:49] <b2s> seeker: so msg him
[07:49] <transgress> well it's an hp, but i got it from compusa
[07:49] <thegreedyturtle> does irc.freenode.net have way of registering a nick?
[07:49] <transgress> and it's the hp protection plan
[07:50] <seeker> what is the command? "./msg" ?
[07:50] <b2s> yeah. /msg username the text message to send
[07:50] <danko123456> oh, he kleft
[07:50] <elmaya> a msg
[07:51] <seeker> ./ msg danko123456 test
[07:51] <transgress> err it's the compusa protection plan not hp
[07:51] <seeker> danko123456, did you get my msg?
[07:51] <danko123456> I guess that didnt work...
[07:51] <danko123456> ./msg seeker daba kaj ima?
[07:51] <mebaran151> my xpdf segfaults on AMD64
[07:51] <mebaran151> what should I do
[07:51] <chazwurth> transgress: I assume that means you take it to compusa and they fix it there?
[07:51] <danko123456> Yeah, leave out the .
[07:52] <transgress> chazwurth: unless i really wanna send it in
[07:52] <seeker> ok thanks!
[07:52] <Smeven> is breezy pretty unstable?
[07:52] <danko123456> not that I did anything.
[07:52] <chazwurth> transgress: I'm guessing that they'll want to verify for themselves that it's broken. They can't (won't) do that with Linux installed. You'll probably have to put Windows on it. I'm not certain, but I think it's likely.
[07:53] <danko123456> WEll, its pretty Breezy, if you get what I mean...
[07:53] <Smeven> ij
[07:53] <Smeven> ok
[07:53] <danko123456> Heh, no I was jj.
[07:53] <Smeven> ideal for gnome developers i would assume
[07:53] <danko123456> I dont know...
[07:53] <danko123456> I use the stable.
[07:53] <chazwurth> transgress: If you had an at-home service warranty, you'd probably be able to bully them to send you the part, or haggle with the serviceman if that failed.
[07:53] <danko123456> my Mplayer dont work:(
[07:54] <danko123456> Ill try rebooting...brb
[07:54] <danko123456> what sucks about linux, is that rebooting dont usually help.
[07:55] <seeker> ok. sent him the msg. thanks guys. now I can go :)
[07:55] <pixil9> hahaha
[07:56] <pixil9> no rebooting doesn't usually do shit
[07:56] <jinx``> hi
[07:56] <pixil9> hi
[07:56] <transgress> well i know it's not broken because it worked with windows
[07:56] <transgress> but i don't want that
[07:56] <jinx``> gooood morning everybody :>
[07:56] <transgress> i actually only bought the extended warranty because it covers accidental damage including screen
[07:56] <transgress> so if i get angry and punch it... that's covered
[07:56] <danko123456> You guys like the little music at the beginning of Ubuntu
[07:56] <thegreedyturtle> don't worry danko, that's a feature, not a bug :)
[07:56] <thegreedyturtle> restarting x11 usually does something tho
[07:56] <danko123456> ?
[07:57] <danko123456> I know, Im jj.
[07:57] <thegreedyturtle> i like the drumbeats
[07:57] <danko123456> transgress: dont punch the baby...
[07:57] <mebaran151> I dont like them
[07:57] <pixil9> danko123456, yes.
[07:57] <elmaya> why use mplayer when vlc is better?
[07:57] <danko123456> d0ont kick the baby either.
[07:57] <thegreedyturtle> i usually turn off the stupid clicky stuff but the drums is nice
[07:57] <pixil9> I think vlc is a piece of shit.
[07:57] <mebaran151> my xpdf segfaults on AMD64.  how should I solve this
[07:57] <mebaran151> I tried a sorc compile
[07:57] <danko123456> Its pretty col the music.
[07:57] <mebaran151> got a sizeof error
[07:58] <danko123456> really, vlc is better?
[07:58] <danko123456> I didnt hear that one yet...
[07:58] <thegreedyturtle> hey, has anyone dealt with xen much?
[07:58] <danko123456> no, not much...in fact, not at all...
[07:58] <pixil9> danko123456, vlc sucks ass.
[07:58] <nomasteryoda> well guys, the issue I have had with Ubuntu is getting mp3 playing to work.. period... It should be simple and built right in
[07:58] <transgress> grar... fucking thing locks up everytime i try to play music from a dvd
[07:58] <danko123456> I have it in windows...its fine..
[07:58] <thegreedyturtle> mp3 is proprietary... sorry mate
[07:59] <pixil9> nomasteryoda, xmms doesn't work?
[07:59] <danko123456> DVDs are for music...
[07:59] <thegreedyturtle> building it in would require liscensing
[07:59] <nomasteryoda> pixil9: not on mine...
[07:59] <danko123456> ah...movies rather.
[07:59] <Choubaka> nomasteryoda: it's possible.
[07:59] <danko123456> sorry:(
[07:59] <nomasteryoda> i had to go thru some girations to make it work
[07:59] <nomasteryoda> from the wiki
[07:59] <pixil9> nomasteryoda, Well you probably have a ghetto dell or HP or something.. with a shit soundcard that isn't supported
[07:59] <danko123456> nomasteryoda: blocks up?
[07:59] <nomasteryoda> it works, but it should be plugin, then work
[07:59] <Choubaka> Don't blame ubuntu for it.
[07:59] <nomasteryoda> lol
[07:59] <nomasteryoda> ghetto dell
[07:59] <Choubaka> mp3 is proprietary.
[07:59] <thegreedyturtle> have you looked at http://ubuntuguide.org/
[07:59] <danko123456> nomasteryoda: when you try to play music, it blocks up?
[07:59] <Choubaka> it can't be included in main
[08:00] <pixil9> I hate all dell hp compaq e-machine
[08:00] <pixil9> anything like that
[08:00] <nomasteryoda> danko123456: typo
[08:00] <danko123456> ?
[08:00] <pixil9> those are all of the computers i fix on a weekly basis
[08:00] <danko123456> does it not work?
[08:00] <pixil9> It's great that dell has the best support.. except they have 100x the problems
[08:00] <danko123456> Mine blocked up like that, and I fixed it with help from someone here.
[08:00] <nomasteryoda> pixil9: i hate dell too, but it will not play them on my amd generic box either
[08:00] <pixil9> so no shit they need good support
[08:00] <nomasteryoda> again, have to patch
[08:00] <thegreedyturtle> my favorite is the emachine's obscenely overpriced replacement parts
[08:00] <danko123456> nomasteryoda: is your xmms working?
[08:00] <Choubaka> patch?!
[08:01] <Choubaka> wtf
[08:01] <nomasteryoda> now it is
[08:01] <danko123456> ok.
[08:01] <danko123456> cook
[08:01] <Choubaka> I just installed one lib.
[08:01] <nomasteryoda> patch, on wiki
[08:01] <Choubaka> using apt
[08:01] <thegreedyturtle> 100 bucks for a crappy power supply, they could at least have a good one
[08:01] <danko123456> cool, thats good.
[08:01] <nomasteryoda> let me get link
[08:01] <pixil9> It's like.. how about we just make a good product from the start and we don't need a 10,000 person support department
[08:01] <pixil9> we need 1000
[08:01] <pixil9> fucking dell.
[08:01] <pixil9> lol
[08:01] <danko123456> dude, tech support is there for a good reason.
[08:01] <pixil9> 100 bux for a no name PSU
[08:01] <danko123456> I, in fact, work tech support for Comcast.
[08:02] <pixil9> ya.. cuz their computer suck so fucking bad.. they need a crazy support program
[08:02] <nomasteryoda> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:02] <danko123456> And, let me remind you...there is ppl that dont know how to use the address bar...
[08:02] <danko123456> the to: field in emails, and such...
[08:02] <nomasteryoda> yea, i know... restricted, but mp3? it is as common as sliced bread
[08:02] <pixil9> All I'm saying is if they'd just get a custom built machine
[08:02] <thegreedyturtle> and then danko has to go home and does tech suppourt for Ubuntu to wash the taste out of his mouth
[08:02] <danko123456> its not just the hardware needs to be good.
[08:02] <pixil9> they'd have 100x less problems then their dell
[08:02] <Choubaka> nomasteryoda: doesn't matter.
[08:02] <Choubaka> it's patented
[08:02] <danko123456> thegreedyturtle: ?
[08:02] <nomasteryoda> so anyway, aside from that issue, Kudos on making IPOD show up correctly
[08:02] <danko123456> Wash the taste?
[08:02] <thegreedyturtle> just kiddin' around
[08:02] <danko123456> Im fine...
[08:02] <nomasteryoda> Choubaka: ik
[08:03] <Choubaka> Yeah.
[08:03] <Choubaka> So no you know why it can't be included.
[08:03] <Choubaka> It's not legal in USA
[08:03] <chazwurth> pixil9: Unfortunately there isn't much in the way of well-built reasonably-priced hardware for home consumers. And you don't 'get' a custom-built machine. You build a custom-built machine. People don't know how and don't have time for the hassle.
[08:03] <Choubaka> not completely at lest.
[08:03] <Choubaka> least*
[08:03] <nomasteryoda> Choubaka: so why cant we make a deb package to add support
[08:03] <nomasteryoda> put it on restricted?
[08:03] <thegreedyturtle> it's on mallirat
[08:03] <Choubaka> nomasteryoda: there is a deb?
[08:03] <nomasteryoda> kinda like the Redhat did / does
[08:03] <Choubaka> wtf.
[08:03] <pixil9> chazwurth, I have about 3 places within 15 minutes that build machines for you. so yes you do "get" them.
[08:03] <pixil9> i build mine.
[08:04] <Reblended> < I just did lspci to get my video card BusID... how do I convert 1e (hex) to decimal?
[08:04] <mebaran151> my xmms is not working
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[08:04] <transgress> what do i need to get for xmms so it can play mp3s?
[08:04] <mebaran151> it just mysteriously doesnt start
[08:04] <pixil9> chazwurth, So i dunno wtf you're smoking.
[08:04] <transgress> it seems it's locking because of lack of codecs not because of the dvd
[08:04] <danko123456> pixil9: the ppl dont know how  to send an email!
[08:04] <mebaran151> no error msg on the cli
[08:04] <inc> can anyone recommend a gui ftp client?
[08:04] <mebaran151> it just doesnt load the gui
[08:04] <thegreedyturtle> nomasteryoda: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:04] <pixil9> but me.. i smoke weed
[08:04] <danko123456> not their sound card isnt working, they dont know how to turn the knob..
[08:04] <Reblended> convert 1e hex to decimal
[08:04] <pixil9> and it's doobie time
[08:04] <pixil9> later
[08:04] <thegreedyturtle> be sure to read the How to add extra repositories
[08:04] <chazwurth> pixil9: I build mine as well. But the average consumer doesn't know what parts are what. And trusting a mom-and-pop shop to choose for them is at least as risky as trusting Dell.
[08:04] <danko123456> inc: gftp.
[08:04] <nomasteryoda> thegreedyturtle: thanks
[08:04] <mebaran151> both xpdf and xmms do not work
[08:04] <pixil9> fuck no it's not.
[08:04] <danko123456> Its included in Hoaryl
[08:05] <pixil9> www.memoryexpress.net is in calgary where I live
[08:05] <pixil9> they build sweet machines for retards.
[08:05] <pixil9> they do millions a month in business
[08:05] <Reblended> oh It's 30 =] 
[08:05] <geneo93> transgress:  try installing gstreamer0.8-mad
[08:05] <Choubaka> that's all you need. :|
[08:05] <Choubaka> you don't even need marillat or anything
[08:05] <danko123456> pixil9: Im in winnipeg
[08:05] <inc> danko123456, thought it was a seperate download
[08:05] <pixil9> danko123456, right on :P
[08:06] <danko123456> may be...
[08:06] <danko123456> inc: may be...
[08:06] <inc> i've used it before but seeing if there was anything else
[08:06] <danko123456> Try applications>internet.
[08:06] <danko123456> there are others surely":)
[08:07] <danko123456> awesome, sorry
[08:07] <danko123456> Hey, I tagged a fence near work today
[08:07] <jinx``> Reblended
[08:08] <jinx``> 14*1 + 1*16
[08:08] <jinx``> :D
[08:08] <pablo928> transgress-check out www.ubuntuguide,org for all the info you need for mp3.
[08:08] <jinx``> so 30 is a nice start for your hexadecimal skills :D
[08:08] <danko123456> nomasteryoda: does that page show for .avi support?
[08:08] <Reblended> jinx``, ty!  I had to cheat: http://www.statman.info/conversions/hexadecimal.html
[08:09] <pablo928> inc-I've had good luck with gftp
[08:09] <Choubaka> xIt sucks not to be able to use mp3 out-of-the-box though. :/
[08:09] <danko123456> its a good program, works
[08:09] <jinx``> you can cheat, but never show it to keep your wisdom :D
[08:09] <danko123456> yeah, hmmm...something's wrong with that wisdom...
[08:09] <danko123456> but, I know what you mean.
[08:09] <thegreedyturtle> .avi gets added with w32codecs i think
[08:09] <Reblended> jinx``, I've run the xwindows reconfigure I can't tell how many times... gdm restart fail
[08:10] <Choubaka> thegreedyturtle: .avi is not a codec
[08:10] <Reblended> my sony lcd is junk! (please work)
[08:10] <transgress> heh i can't use w32codecs
[08:10] <transgress> have they ripped the w64codecs yet?
[08:10] <thegreedyturtle> lol
[08:10] <jinx``> is wisdom the wrong word here? :>
[08:10] <thegreedyturtle> w32 might work anyway...
[08:11] <danko123456> the wisdom is out there.
[08:11] <danko123456> :)
[08:11] <Choubaka> transgress: you may want to try vlc in the meantime
[08:11] <pablo928> inc-nvu and mozilla composer also have integrated ftp clients
[08:11] <jinx``> when i want to compile something, is it always ppossible to use ./configure && make && make installl ?
[08:11] <transgress> still adding in the codecs... i can't play freaking mp3's... blargh... just locks up.
[08:11] <danko123456> it works in Xine.
[08:12] <yoink> hey guys its me again...guess it broke or something, the usbdisk doesnt work on another computer either
[08:12] <thegreedyturtle> jinx: depends on what you are installing
[08:12] <Choubaka> jinx``: no.
[08:12] <danko123456> brb
[08:12] <jinx``> ok
[08:12] <Reblended> anyone here use the intel 82815 graphics chip?
[08:12] <Choubaka> most programs use make though
[08:12] <danko123456> yoink: yeah, that happens.
[08:12] <danko123456> like with my printer.
[08:12] <jinx``> is there a guide anywhere?
[08:12] <Reblended> someone?
[08:12] <yoink> i think i messed it up trying to get damn small linux on it
[08:12] <Choubaka> jinx``: what do you want to compile? :p
[08:13] <membreya> jinx``: nano README or nano INSTALL
[08:13] <danko123456> jinx``: usually it does work with those three though.
[08:13] <Reblended> transgress, just batch convert your mp3's to ogg ;-)
[08:13] <danko123456> I have a cool email on that topic.
[08:13] <Choubaka> Reblended: Can that be done without loss of quality? /:
[08:13] <transgress> Reblended: and lose more quality?
[08:13] <thegreedyturtle> the real question is if you are talking about wisdom or intelligence: wisdom is the ability to make finer and finer distinctions (education) and intelligence is the ability to interpret ambiguity
[08:13] <Reblended> transgress, have you tried getting the lame decoder and using audacity?
[08:13] <jinx``> at the moment i don't want to compile something special
[08:14] <Reblended> ohhh.. I thought I read somewhere it could be done! Choubaka , transgress
[08:14] <jinx``> just a general question
[08:14] <jinx``> :D
[08:14] <thegreedyturtle> (that's a bit late response...)
[08:14] <transgress> there is something wrong when mplayer won't even play mp3's
[08:14] <Reblended> transgress, try vlc
[08:14] <chazwurth> Someone here the other day was saying it could be done as well. mp3 ---> some lossless codec ---> ogg
[08:14] <Choubaka> transgress: You just don't have a decoder :/
[08:14] <jinx``> thx thegreedyturtle
[08:14] <jinx``> :>
[08:14] <transgress> Reblended: just installed vlc
[08:14] <transgress> nothing
[08:14] <thegreedyturtle> ys?
[08:14] <Reblended> aw
[08:14] <Choubaka> chazwurth: doesn't work.
[08:14] <Tetanus> Where is xorg.conf in ubuntu 5.04 please
[08:14] <thegreedyturtle> y' welcome
[08:15] <jinx``> /etc/X11
[08:15] <Choubaka> Tetanus: /etc/X11/
[08:15] <Tetanus> No etc x11
[08:15] <Tetanus> X11
[08:15] <chazwurth> Choubaka: I didn't look into it; even if it did, converting that much music would be a major pain in the ass :P
[08:15] <Tetanus> I dont have that directorz
[08:15] <Choubaka> hm
[08:15] <jinx``> you should :D
[08:15] <thegreedyturtle> too bad there isn't a 'LIVE GODDAMNIT /etc/X11' command
[08:15] <Reblended> just dont use a 8th inch patch cable from your headphone back into your mic input... don't say I didn't warn you
[08:15] <thegreedyturtle> hahah
[08:16] <Tetanus> praksa1:/etc# cd X11
[08:16] <Tetanus> -bash: cd: X11: No such file or directory
[08:16] <Reblended> feedback loop! =] 
[08:16] <thegreedyturtle> ever see the etherkiller?
[08:16] <Choubaka> Tetanus: eek
[08:16] <Choubaka> :D
[08:16] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, I don't have any ether
[08:16] <jinx``> locate -u
[08:16] <Choubaka> have you got x.org installed?
[08:16] <Tetanus> What Choubaka
[08:16] <jinx``> locate xorg.conf
[08:16] <thegreedyturtle> etherkiller: http://www.fiftythree.org/etherkiller/
[08:17] <Reblended> I've found xorg.conf but when I copy it to my thumbdrive and open it on my xp machine... it's not there!
[08:17] <hobocop> I cant click anything on my desktop lmao
[08:17] <Tetanus> locate -u
[08:17] <Tetanus> locate: invalid option -- u
[08:17] <Tetanus> slocate dont work either
[08:17] <danko123456> goof night!!
[08:17] <danko123456> funk.
[08:18] <danko123456> Good Night.
[08:18] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, cisco loves you
[08:18] <nomasteryoda> Reblended: lol
[08:18] <transgress> what's the command to make sshd keys?
[08:18] <thegreedyturtle> wooooo!
[08:18] <nomasteryoda> Reblended: did you umount the thumbdrive?
[08:18] <Reblended> yah! it worked for two other files, nomasteryoda
[08:19] <nomasteryoda> k
[08:19] <Reblended> then I mounted the 3rd time and the file cp'ed ok... I thought
[08:19] <nomasteryoda> Reblended: copy file to your desktop, then try dropping it into the thumb
[08:19] <nomasteryoda> just a though
[08:19] <Reblended> nomasteryoda, crimsun helped me with the thumbdrive mounting... someone else was helping me with troubleshooting my xserver woes
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> Reblended: hoary?
[08:20] <Reblended> nomasteryoda, (no gdm)
[08:20] <Reblended> yes
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> ah
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> ok
[08:20] <Reblended> too white?
[08:20] <thegreedyturtle> question, is your thumb drive in vfat?
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> well, just thought i'd throw in some suggestions... got to sleep
[08:20] <nomasteryoda> nite
[08:20] <Reblended> ty nomasteryoda g/night
[08:20] <thegreedyturtle> n/t
[08:21] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, I've gotta go look that up to answer that
[08:21] <Reblended> no
[08:21] <thegreedyturtle> aahh
[08:21] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, it worked tho fine
[08:21] <Reblended> with xp... for two other files
[08:21] <thegreedyturtle> ok well that's a bust then
[08:21] <thegreedyturtle> can you see the file on the drive?
[08:21] <Reblended> under linux
[08:21] <Reblended> not xp
[08:21] <Reblended> ahh
[08:22] <thegreedyturtle> ?
[08:22] <Dreamer3_> what's the quickest way (console) to find out how much memory (the varios types) a program is using?
[08:22] <Reblended> weir
[08:22] <Reblended> d
[08:22] <thegreedyturtle> free
[08:22] <geneo93> Dreamer3_:  top
[08:22] <Reblended> just type that in?
[08:22] <Dreamer3_> geneo93: i have too much stuff running :)
[08:22] <transgress> i really really don't want to put windows back on this box, but i really really need my stuff to work
[08:22] <Reblended> I could do without mp3
[08:23] <Reblended> I would just like my gdm to start!
[08:23] <transgress> well i can't get mp3 or dvd to play
[08:23] <transgress> well i can get dvd's to play with no sound in kaffeine...
[08:23] <transgress> but i do have sound note ye
[08:23] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended: did you ever get your file to appear?
[08:23] <Reblended> ahh, cuz it uses mp3 for dvd sound, eh
[08:23] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, not in xp
[08:23] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended: why are you using xp again?
[08:23] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, xorg.conf shows up when I ls... but not in xp
[08:24] <jinx``> Dreamer3_ but top will do it for you :D
[08:24] <thegreedyturtle> you have two computers or a dual boot?
[08:24] <chazwurth> transgress: I assume you tried gstreamer08-mad?
[08:24] <Choubaka> transgress: you need gstreamer0.8-mad and libdvdcss2
[08:24] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, the xp machine is the only other machine that I can get to paste my log files to the net... the other computer is the one I'm working on
[08:24] <thegreedyturtle> ok
[08:24] <Reblended> i wish it were
[08:25] <thegreedyturtle> can you use login at a console?
[08:25] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, remember, I can't start gdm.. I'm at the prompt
[08:25] <Reblended> xwindows won't start
[08:25] <Reblended> I'm not sure what driver will work...
[08:25] <thegreedyturtle> but you are at a promt right?
[08:25] <Reblended> yes
[08:25] <thegreedyturtle> press ctl alt F1
[08:25] <glamdring> 'lo kids
[08:25] <transgress> Choubaka: i have both of those
[08:25] <thegreedyturtle> and login as your username and password
[08:26] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, this is live hoary
[08:26] <glamdring> ooh live hoary is out!
[08:26] <glamdring> nice
[08:26] <thegreedyturtle> should work anyway? maybe? i have no idea actually =P
[08:26] <glamdring> hoary has been released then?
[08:26] <Reblended> yes it is nice, on an hp 2.3 p4ht, not on my sony vaio pIII
[08:26] <shinu> hey!
[08:26] <glamdring> lol
[08:27] <glamdring> well you must want useless things liek gnome :)
[08:27] <shinu> is there an equivalent of yum(fedora) in ubuntu?
[08:27] <Choubaka> yes.
[08:27] <thegreedyturtle> apt
[08:27] <glamdring> shinu... ubuntu uses debian tools
[08:27] <Reblended> it is schweet, hoary live... widescreen etc
[08:27] <glamdring> so apt is standard
[08:27] <thegreedyturtle> and it's not equivalent no, it's much better
[08:27] <shinu> alright
[08:27] <glamdring> and in the gui you use synaptic
[08:27] <Choubaka> shinu: apt actually existed before yum :)
[08:27] <shinu> gonna read the manpage :D
[08:27] <Reblended> anyone here run ubuntu on a sony vaio with an intel gfx card?
[08:27] <glamdring> apt is the only package management tool I'll ever use again
[08:28] <shinu> ok thanks everyone :)
[08:28] <thegreedyturtle> shinu: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[08:28] <transgress> okay i have sound, but when i go to gstreamer-properties and try to do the test... they fail to construct a pipeline to the tests
[08:28] <Choubaka> glamdring: apt is the onlt package management tool I've ever used :D
[08:28] <transgress> could it be something to do with trying to do with the audio that is locking it up?
[08:28] <shinu> thanks thegreedyturtle
[08:28] <glamdring> you're not missing ANYTHING Choubaka
[08:28] <Choubaka> I know.
[08:28] <glamdring> I've used all the rpm flavors
[08:28] <thegreedyturtle> shinu is welcome
[08:28] <glamdring> and while some are nice
[08:28] <transgress> oh shit
[08:28] <transgress> i restarted esd and it worked...
[08:29] <thegreedyturtle> glamdring: what do you think of autopackage?
[08:29] <glamdring> apt is teh own
[08:29] <transgress> ummm
[08:29] <Reblended> how many years of reading do I have to do to just get ubuntu to work on my Vaio?
[08:29] <chazwurth> glamdring: I'll second that thought :)
[08:29] <transgress> cool?
[08:29] <Choubaka> transgress: :D
[08:29] <glamdring> haven't used autopackage
[08:29] <Choubaka> autopackage sounds like a cool concept.
[08:29] <Choubaka> it'll be good for commercial applications,
[08:29] <transgress> what's the battery life like on a pentium m?
[08:29] <Choubaka> and non-free apps.
[08:29] <Reblended> isn't there a generic driver xorg? I just want to get into xwindows... FAIL gdm
[08:30] <Choubaka> Reblended: vesa
[08:30] <Reblended> thx Choubaka
[08:30] <thegreedyturtle> im trying to boot live cd right now
[08:30] <chazwurth> transgress: With power management working, I'm getting 3.5 -4 hours with a 1.6 GHz and a 15 inch widescreen display
[08:30] <chazwurth> transgress: to make it up to 4 hours I have to turn the display down some
[08:30] <Reblended> now I need to know what my BusID is... Choubaka   the hex was 1e which is 30 in decimal... sounds ok?
[08:30] <revelater> are there any diablo 2 like games for linux?
[08:31] <transgress> chazwurth: nice... i think i got nearly 3 on mine
[08:31] <transgress> but it's an amd64
[08:31] <Choubaka> hmm.
[08:31] <chazwurth> transgress: and this is assuming I'm not making very heavy use of the processor. I mean, I'm using the machine, but nothing too processor-intensive.
[08:31] <Reblended> Choubaka, it didn't say it was not allowed... so?
[08:31] <revelater> are there any diablo 2 like games for linux?
[08:31] <revelater> ??
[08:31] <jinx``> diablo2
[08:31] <jinx``> with wine :D
[08:31] <Reblended> revelater, happypenguin
[08:32] <Reblended> the manuals, are they available on the live cd as well?
[08:32] <thegreedyturtle> i think that the real hitter for commercial applications is going to be standardizing with http://elektra.sourceforge.net/
[08:32] <chazwurth> transgress: What I'd really like to do is get a second battery for the modular bay. I almost never use the cd drive, and with over 6 hours battery life, I'd almost never have to worry about it.
[08:32] <jubei> Hello. I want to recompile my kernel with a 500hz mouse polling patch. Is this the howto I should be following http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelByHandHowto ?
[08:32] <revelater> Reblended, i have been looking, and short of downloading every single rpg i haven't found one
[08:32] <shinu> gtg
[08:32] <shinu> bai
[08:33] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: yes
[08:33] <Reblended> revelater, I need them as I am not going to be online for most of the summer
[08:33] <Reblended> wget all debian manuals
[08:33] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: scratch that, I reccommend http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelBuildpackageHowto
[08:33] <revelater> Reblended, ? what do you mean?
[08:34] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: it will actually build you a .deb that you can proced to uninstall if desired
[08:34] <glamdring> sry was afk for a minute
[08:34] <Reblended> revelater, http://www.nl.debian.org/doc/manuals/  all of these
[08:34] <glamdring> actually brb
[08:34] <revelater> Reblended ...
[08:35] <revelater> Reblended, is this some other conversation or what?
[08:35] <jubei> thegreedyturtle: ah ok, and using that process I can still apply my own changes to hid-core.c
[08:35] <revelater> ok who suggested i run diablo from wine?
[08:35] <Reblended> revelater, oh... sry I'm too tired
[08:35] <revelater> Reblended, np, i figured as much
[08:35] <Reblended> there's another program, revelater
[08:36] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: should be able to, i've only used it to apply patches to the kernel, if that's what you are doing
[08:36] <revelater> Reblended, like wine?
[08:36] <revelater> Reblended, is it free?
[08:36] <Reblended> but only for gaming, yes, revelater
[08:36] <thegreedyturtle> isn't there a way to compile it from the CVS tree?
[08:36] <revelater> Reblended, tell me this secret of yours...
[08:37] <Reblended> I'm looking it up... hang on
[08:37] <revelater> k
[08:37] <thegreedyturtle> wine is GPL, so they have to release the source - they sell the packages, but anyone can go in and recompile it (i think)
[08:37] <Reblended> I don't game, that's why I don't remember right off
[08:37] <thegreedyturtle> ditto
[08:37] <thegreedyturtle> but i have been wanting to play HL2...
[08:37] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, what's the gaming "emulator" for linux to play win games?
[08:37] <thegreedyturtle> cedga?
[08:38] <thegreedyturtle> was wine, then wineX, now i think it's cedga
[08:38] <Reblended> ya
[08:38] <jubei> thegreedyturtle: So I just apply the patches b4 i run dpkg-buildpackage -B -uc -us -rfakeroot ?
[08:38] <revelater> cedega isn't free though
[08:38] <Reblended> so hard to remember that
[08:38] <Reblended> revelater, not?
[08:38] <revelater> and what about intalling
[08:39] <thegreedyturtle> i sec, im researching
[08:39] <Reblended> http://www.mininova.org/tor/194
[08:39] <johnnybe1ak> hey guys i'm trying to use ispell with the french dictionary, but for some reason it's not showing up the foreign characters, anyone got any ideas?
[08:39] <transgress> cedega is plenty free if you know where to look
[08:39] <Reblended> ^
[08:39] <johnnybe1ak> cedega is like 5 bucks anyway so who cares
[08:39] <Reblended> nothing should be for sale when it comes to linux
[08:40] <revelater> k, so how do i intall it though (diablo2 that is)
[08:40] <chazwurth> Reblended: The people who write the software you use have to eat too, you know.
[08:40] <Reblended> chazwurth, it's against the gpl license, I was told?
[08:40] <johnnybe1ak> Reblended: haha nope
[08:41] <Nomikos> upgraded to hoary on PPC, does anyone know if it has a suspend/sleep mode yet?
[08:41] <chazwurth> Reblended: Hardly. Take a look at the FSF site and the license itself.
[08:41] <Reblended> it's hard enough for me to pronounce SuSE, how in the world do I do Cedega?
[08:41] <johnnybe1ak> Reblended: think of SuSE pre-novell, YAST was what they charged for because it was proprietary
[08:41] <johnnybe1ak> Reblended: you can get it off cvs for free if i remember correctly
[08:42] <Reblended> legally, johnnybe1ak ?
[08:42] <transgress> see day gah
[08:42] <revelater> how do i install diablo2? does cedega do it for me or what?
[08:42] <Choubaka> Cedega isn't GPL
[08:42] <Choubaka> it doesn't contain any GPL code.
[08:42] <chazwurth> I was about to ask that. I thought Cedega was proprietary.
[08:42] <Reblended> johnnybe1ak, oh you don't mean the retailer store cvs?
[08:42] <Choubaka> And you _can_ sell GPL'd software.
[08:42] <thegreedyturtle> Cedega can be compiled from the CVS for free
[08:42] <Reblended> Choubaka, but you have to provide the source if it is GPL?
[08:42] <thegreedyturtle> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[08:43] <chazwurth> In any case, it certainly isn't a problem to sell GPL software. What do you think Red Hat and Novell do when they charge for their distributions?
[08:43] <Choubaka> Reblended: yes
[08:43] <thegreedyturtle> probably out of date
[08:43] <Choubaka> I could sell you a burned ubuntu disk for $100, if you wanted to buy it.
[08:43] <Reblended> Choubaka, so why buy it if I can compile it?
[08:43] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended: i just loaded that live cd (finally =P it really took that long)
[08:43] <chazwurth> Reblended: To feed the developers?
[08:43] <thegreedyturtle> because it's a pain in the ars if you aren't l337
[08:43] <Choubaka> thegreedyturtle: the public CVS cedega lacks many features compared to the binary cedega.
[08:43] <thegreedyturtle> aaaah
[08:43] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, sure is
[08:44] <Reblended> Choubaka, so, they're not releasing the final source?
[08:44] <chazwurth> Reblended: Why do people who know how to do things themselves pay for Linux distributions or donate money to developers? To support the community.
[08:44] <revelater> man, i cannot connect to any BT trackers today...
[08:44] <Choubaka> Reblended: no
[08:44] <Choubaka> They don't have to.
[08:44] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended, you should be able to press ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a command line right?
[08:44] <johnnybe1ak> Choubaka: i thought that just the DirectX stuff was prop. the other stuff is just vanilla wine no?
[08:44] <Choubaka> no.
[08:44] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, the only thing I get is a command line
[08:44] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended, that's fine
[08:45] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, xwindows won't load... fail gdm
[08:45] <Choubaka> They have forex. copy protection support, installshield support, and a lot of other stuff
[08:45] <thegreedyturtle> type cd /etc/X11 (the capitalization is important)
[08:45] <thegreedyturtle> then type ls
[08:45] <chazwurth> Choubaka: Do they not have some code in common with wine though? I was under the impression they did.
[08:45] <Choubaka> chazwurth: yes they do
[08:45] <space_oddity> good morning!
[08:45] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, done
[08:45] <Choubaka> but only back when wine wasn't lgpl
[08:46] <chazwurth> Choubaka: Aah. Suddenly everything makes sense :)
[08:46] <Choubaka> http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Subscribing_vs_Building_from_CVS
[08:46] <space_oddity> wine...
[08:46] <Reblended> too many *.conf files thegreedyturtle
[08:46] <space_oddity> I just found a site that hane winex-cedega already compiled!
[08:46] <thegreedyturtle> quick vi tutorial: when you get in, you are in 'search' mode, which lets you move around and do editing functions. so you use the arrows to move around to where you want and press the 'i' key to go into "insert" mode. do your typing and then press ESC to return to 'search mode
[08:46] <space_oddity> anione interested?
[08:47] <revelater> sure
[08:47] <thegreedyturtle> ok type 'cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.backup
[08:47] <thegreedyturtle> wow
[08:47] <thegreedyturtle> nevermind
[08:47] <thegreedyturtle> i have no idea how to do this on a live cd...
[08:47] <Choubaka> space_oddity: nah.
[08:47] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, a lil different?
[08:48] <Choubaka> You'd probably be better of with vanilla wine and the experimental DX9 support patches. :D
[08:48] <thegreedyturtle> there's nothing to write to !
[08:48] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, I have a thumb drive... I can do that
[08:48] <Reblended> =D
[08:48] <thegreedyturtle> so you have your thumb drive mounted?
[08:48] <thegreedyturtle> what's it's mount point?
[08:48] <Reblended> only takes a sec...
[08:49] <space_oddity> it is not a pirate version... people on this site download the source code and then compile it... so it's 100% legal
[08:49] <Reblended> mount point? you mean /media/somethumb ?
[08:49] <thegreedyturtle> yup
[08:49] <Olsen> how can i get the x11-xv libs for mplayer?
[08:49] <thegreedyturtle> hey, what command did you use to mount it, im going to mount mine so i can goof w' it
[08:49] <Reblended> how do I cp from somewhere when I am at the destination?
[08:50] <johnnybe1ak> cp path/to/file/to/be/copied path/to/desination
[08:50] <thegreedyturtle> when you use cp blah/blah blah/whatever it uses your working directory (the directory you are in
[08:50] <revelater> GAME CALL who plays what??
[08:50] <thegreedyturtle> if you use cp /whatever/whatever /whatever it starts from /
[08:51] <Reblended> k
[08:51] <Reblended> what should I cp?
[08:51] <thegreedyturtle> how did you mount your drive?
[08:51] <Reblended> just the xorg?
[08:51] <thegreedyturtle> i want to do it too
[08:51] <space_oddity> good night! I'll go back to sleep now :-)
[08:51] <Reblended> pmount /dev/sda/1 something
[08:51] <revelater> night
[08:51] <Reblended> sry
[08:51] <Reblended> pmount /dev/sda1  something
[08:51] <revelater> who play what game in linux, whats your fav game???
[08:52] <Reblended> something = name whatever
[08:52] <Reblended> revelater, no gravity
[08:52] <Reblended> looks cool revelater
[08:52] <revelater> Reblended, i can't get it to work
[08:52] <Reblended> http://happypenguin.org/ revelater
[08:52] <thegreedyturtle> can't get it to mount
[08:52] <revelater> Reblended, i have it but it gives me errors when trying to run
[08:52] <thegreedyturtle> got a / must not appear in label name
[08:53] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, I had typed it wrong...  it's pmount /dev/sda1 something
[08:53] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle,  then type ls /media/
[08:53] <revelater> Reblended, something about missing tp.netlib modules
[08:53] <Reblended> revelater, it said it was a little difficult to make
[08:53] <revelater> Reblended, know how to fix it?
[08:53] <Reblended> < never played it
[08:54] <thegreedyturtle> hey that's kinda cool reblende3d
[08:54] <Reblended> =D
[08:54] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, give thanks to crimsun
[08:54] <Reblended> TY crimsun !
[08:54] <revelater> Reblended, !!!! i thought you played it?!?!?!
[08:54] <Reblended> I just said it looks cool
[08:54] <Reblended> ha!
[08:54] <Reblended> I'm not a gamer, revelater
[08:54] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended, 'cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /media/usbdisk/xorg.conf
[08:55] <thegreedyturtle> you already did that though didn' ya
[08:55] <Reblended> I prefer to waste my time getting ubuntu to work on a sony vaio laptop
[08:55] <Reblended> not yet, thegreedyturtle gonna now
[08:56] <Reblended> ahh
[08:56] <Reblended> I hadn't named the file I was copying lol
[08:56] <thegreedyturtle> w00t!
[08:56] <Reblended> wait a sec!
[08:56] <Reblended> it's not showing up in xp
[08:56] <Reblended> ugg
[08:56] <thegreedyturtle> but what are you tryin to do anyway?
[08:56] <thegreedyturtle> thats ok
[08:56] <Reblended> just copy that conf file
[08:56] <Reblended> it shows up in linux... not in xp
[08:56] <thegreedyturtle> so you can... what?
[08:56] <Reblended> its ok?
[08:57] <Reblended> so I can show the guy who was gonna troubleshoot my xserver settings
[08:57] <thegreedyturtle> what are you trying to do with the xorg.conf file again?
[08:57] <Reblended> someone wanted it
[08:57] <thegreedyturtle> aaah
[08:57] <Reblended> to help me
[08:57] <revelater> come on people, does anyone here play games??
[08:57] <Reblended> sry.. I'm new
[08:58] <Olsen> what is the difference between debian/ubuntu?
[08:58] <Reblended> different games
[08:58] <Reblended> ubuntu is based on debian, right?
[08:58] <thegreedyturtle> lemmi go to an xp box, 1 sec
[08:58] <Olsen> i believe so
[08:58] <Reblended> redhat is based on rpm
[08:58] <Reblended> ok the
[08:58] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle,
[08:58] <Reblended> Olsen, u use linux now?
[08:59] <Reblended> where is the hoary torrent?
[08:59] <Reblended> for live cd
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[09:00] <topyli> revelater: i play old-school space shooters like galaga :)
[09:00] <thegreedyturtle> well, i have bad news, i came back from my brother's xp box and it found xorg.conf without a problem
[09:00] <Reblended> yow! thegreedyturtle
[09:01] <Reblended> I don't know
[09:01] <thegreedyturtle> try this maybe
[09:01] <Olsen> Reblended, i always used linux
[09:01] <Reblended> can I email from the prompt?
[09:01] <Nomikos> Reblended: releases at http://releases.ubuntu.com/hoary/
[09:01] <Reblended> danke, Nomikos
[09:01] <thegreedyturtle> yeah- if you have sendmail set up with mutt and all kinds of obnoxious configurations
[09:01] <topyli> Reblended: sure. there's the good old 'mail' command
[09:02] <Reblended> what's elektra supposed to be?
[09:02] <revelater> topyli:... k... have you tried mealstrom?
[09:02] <thegreedyturtle> it's like a registry for linux,
[09:02] <Reblended> topyli, ? I'm not able to run xwindows...
[09:02] <Reblended> ok.
[09:02] <topyli> revelater: yes, and i like it
[09:02] <thegreedyturtle> try saving it this way
[09:02] <Reblended> I'm on the live cd and I'm wondering if I can just email from the prompt
[09:02] <revelater> yah its fun
[09:02] <Reblended> ok? thegreedyturtle
[09:02] <aragorn2909> join #kubuntu
[09:02] <thegreedyturtle> type 'vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:02] <thegreedyturtle> then once that opens type
[09:03] <thegreedyturtle> ':w /media/usbdrive/xorg.conf
[09:03] <Reblended> with the ': ?
[09:03] <topyli> Reblended: ah, i thought you really ment the command line. you can use real console mailers like mutt too
[09:03] <Reblended> ok
[09:03] <thegreedyturtle> yeah
[09:03] <jubei> thegreedyturtle: So I just apply the patches b4 i run dpkg-buildpackage -B -uc -us -rfakeroot ?
[09:03] <Nomikos> anyone know the status of sleep mode under Hoary on PPC ?
[09:03] <Nomikos> (on Desktop, that is)
[09:03] <thegreedyturtle> then type ;q to quit
[09:03] <thegreedyturtle> and see if your xp box can find it
[09:04] <topyli> revelater: clanbomber is also one of the biggies. the bomberman clone
[09:04] <thegreedyturtle> that's the only thing that i did differently than you, maybe saving it with vi does something :P
[09:04] <Olsen> what package should i install to get libxv?
[09:04] <revelater> hehe, bomber man
[09:04] <revelater> good stuff
[09:04] <revelater> but i am looking for a good stratagy or rpg
[09:05] <jubei> Okay, thanks for your help anyway thegreedyturtle
[09:05] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, WARNING, output is not to the terminal
[09:05] <topyli> revelater: but the best ones seem to be a bit retro. modern games come late for linux
[09:05] <revelater> real time mind you, not turn based
[09:05] <Nomikos> revelater: try freeciv ?
[09:05] <Reblended> hmm? thegreedyturtle
[09:05] <thegreedyturtle> oops i missed that jubei
[09:05] <jubei> =)
[09:05] <Nomikos> revelater: not sure, but it should work
[09:05] <revelater> Nomikos, i haven't tried it, is it good?
[09:05] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended, try :w! /media/usbdrive/xorg.conf
[09:06] <thegreedyturtle> you don't have anything important on the drive right?
[09:06] <thegreedyturtle> heheh
[09:06] <Nomikos> revelater: it's like Civilization II, from Sid Meijer
[09:06] <Nomikos> (or however you spell that)
[09:06] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: where are you again?
[09:06] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, I think it's stuck
[09:06] <revelater> Nomikos, never played civ 2
[09:06] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, just a flashing cursor... nothing else on that line
[09:06] <thegreedyturtle> aw bum
[09:06] <Nomikos> revelater: played simcity?
[09:07] <Reblended> what's the break command  like ctrl c
[09:07] <thegreedyturtle> yeah
[09:07] <jubei> thegreedyturtle: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelBuildpackageHowto
[09:07] <revelater> Nomikos, yes, and i have lincity
[09:07] <revelater> Nomikos, just doenloaded it a little while ago
[09:07] <topyli> revelater: freeciv is very nice and mature. for a simulation (transport tycoon type) try simutrans
[09:07] <Nomikos> revelater: or hmm.. not too similar actually.. you settle a world in the Civs, moving around with settlers and founding cities, building armies and improvements, inventing techs..
[09:08] <jinx``> i've done a "df -h" and it says: 7.8G used. But when i add the different values "du --max-depth=1" gives me, a lot more than 7.8G seem to be installed
[09:08] <Nomikos> revelater: until you contact other players, then you can trade or make war, or ally etc..it's pretty extensive
[09:08] <revelater> freeciv?
[09:08] <topyli> yes! yes!
[09:09] <Nomikos> http://www.freeciv.org/
[09:09] <revelater> alright... i will download it...
[09:09] <revelater> Nomikos, btw, you ever try wesnoth?
[09:09] <topyli> revelater: you can apt-get it
[09:09] <Nomikos> revelater: wesnoth, no?
[09:10] <rj__> man was it a bad idea to upgrade to breezy, lol.
[09:10] <topyli> revelater: linux myth number 1: "no games"
[09:10] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: sounds right to me, i didn't do it that way, but it looks right,   QUICK TIP!!  Make SURE that you have your filesystem and the keyboard added to the kernel!!
[09:10] <revelater> Nomikos, battle for wesnoth i think it is
[09:10] <Nomikos> revelater: genre?
[09:10] <thegreedyturtle> because kernel compiles take a bloody long time and it really sucks when it can't mount / cuz it can't recognize ext3
[09:11] <revelater> strategy
[09:11] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended: i'm at a wall
[09:11] <rj__> http://flashchat.net/~rj/Screenshot.png
[09:11] <revelater> Nomikos, search under highest rated
[09:11] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, np... it's my 100th wall
[09:11] <rj__> ^ what happend in breezy tonight
[09:11] <Nomikos> revelater: looking at the site now
[09:11] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended, it sounds like it's having problems writing to your usb drive for some reason
[09:11] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, I just gotta get a slik computer like my sis has
[09:11] <revelater> Nomikos, if using happypenguin
[09:11] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, what's vi?
[09:12] <topyli> revelater: apt line for always latest wesnoth packages: deb http://debian.wesnoth.org/sid/ ./
[09:12] <rj__> my entire desktop is wacked out, theres lines all over the place etc. weird screen corruption happens when i move applications around etc.
[09:12] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended, maybe, if you are still set on working with it use a small partition?
[09:12] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended, vi is a command line text editing program
[09:12] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, hmm... I should just burn another live cd...
[09:12] <rj__> and to think, all i seen was python updates in breezy earlier
[09:12] <Reblended> `vi starts it up? thegreedyturtle
[09:12] <thegreedyturtle> vi /path/to/file
[09:13] <thegreedyturtle> course, you can't save it on the live cd!
[09:13] <jinx``> i've done a "df -h" and it says: 7.8G used. But when i do "du --max-depth=1 -hc"  a lot more than 7.8G seems to be installed (8.7G)
[09:13] <revelater> topyli: ./ under dist?
[09:13] <topyli> Reblended: just remember, using vi is not a sin. it's a penance :)
[09:13] <topyli> revelater: yes
[09:13] <thegreedyturtle> vi is not penance :(
[09:13] <crimsun> sure it is. vim is salvation.
[09:13] <topyli> thegreedyturtle: that's just what RMS says :)
[09:14] <jubei> thegreedyturtle: ext3 ntfs and us keyboard arnt allready in there?
[09:14] <thegreedyturtle> :P i see where you are going now
[09:14] <topyli> hehe
[09:14] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: no, and i learned that the hard way
[09:14] <topyli> an editor war a day :)
[09:14] <thegreedyturtle> i've never used vi
[09:14] <Reblended> 5.04?
[09:14] <thegreedyturtle> just vim
[09:15] <revelater> topyli: my biggest problem with wesnoth, is that i can never win, not in the time amounted
[09:15] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended: maybe even try the warty warthog
[09:15] <Reblended> could be
[09:15] <topyli> revelater: well, i have that same problem with many games :)
[09:15] <thegreedyturtle> i just couldn't put the time into westnoth
[09:15] <jubei> thegreedyturtle: after I install my kernal package will I be able to boot my OLD kernel?
[09:16] <daile> of course you can, as long as you keep the GRUB entry for it
[09:16] <topyli> thegreedyturtle: true, they take time. i don't have it so i end up playing xgalaga :)
[09:16] <Reblended> boy I love torrents... 180k/s on 37 seeds... this on wifiG!
[09:17] <Reblended> 5.04 live
[09:17] <jinx``> no one likes to answer my question?
[09:17] <jinx``> :>
[09:17] <revelater> topyli: http://debian.wesnoth.org/sid/ you sure tahts correct?
[09:17] <topyli> revelater: yes. and ./
[09:17] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: if the package name is exactly the same as your current kernel, it might overwrite it, it shouldn't do it without asking you though - i haven't dealt with that, but kpkg usually gives it an odd name anyway, so it should be a nonissue
[09:18] <revelater> topyli: its not getting it...
[09:18] <transgress> okay running x and different programs fairly constantly w/o hibernating or anything it seems i'll get about 2 hours on my lappy
[09:18] <thegreedyturtle> jube: so to answer your question, yes you can
[09:18] <jubei> ok sweet
[09:18] <revelater> topyli: is it bin or source?
[09:18] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: just be sure when you edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst not to delete the ubuntu stuff already in there
[09:18] <topyli> revelater: it's the binary
[09:18] <revelater> topyli: not getting it...
[09:18] <topyli> revelater: you sure you apt-get updated?
[09:18] <Reblended> ok... < too tired to work on lcd problem...
[09:19] <revelater> topyli: using synaptic
[09:19] <topyli> well, refresh then
[09:19] <jubei> thegreedyturtle: so how do I add support for ext3 ntfs and a us keyboard? Does it mention that in the howto http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelBuildpackageHowto ?
[09:19] <revelater> topyli: it couldn't connect...
[09:19] <Reblended> synaptic... nice gui
[09:19] <topyli> revelater: hrm. let me see if it works here
[09:19] <daile> jube: hehe that was for you " of course you can, as long as you keep the GRUB entry for it"
[09:19] <Reblended> why so many spammers now? advertising sites, etc?
[09:20] <Reblended> Grub is only for partitioning? yes? daile ?
[09:20] <EvilIdler> Reblended: Because the world is turning stupid
[09:20] <Reblended> EvilIdler, I guess
[09:20] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: when you run xconfig, you have to turn on (not module) the selection under filesystems(ithink) ext3(or whatever you used, ext3 is default)
[09:20] <daile> jubei: oh no, it's used to boot different versions of your kernels too
[09:20] <topyli> revelater: my apt finds the wesnoth source...
[09:20] <transgress> i wonder how much more battery i'd get if i didn't use gnome and used something lighter
[09:20] <thegreedyturtle> grub stands for Grand Unified Boot Loader
[09:21] <jubei> daile: I didnt ask you that =)
[09:21] <thegreedyturtle> it's what sits on your master boot record and tells your box where and how to boot
[09:21] <daile> hehe
[09:21] <jubei> HEH
[09:21] <revelater> topyli: re post what you have then
[09:21] <revelater> topyli: just to be sure
[09:21] <daile> jubei: This is the first time I use this chanel, so I just want to test it!
[09:21] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, thx,, I remember it does that... never did it
[09:21] <daile> :)
[09:21] <jubei> HEH
[09:21] <Reblended> they won't let me talk in ##linux
[09:21] <topyli> revelater: the whole line in quotes: "deb http://debian.wesnoth.org/sid/ ./"
[09:22] <jinx``>  i've done a "df -h" and it says: 7.8G used. But when i do "du --max-depth=1 -hc"  a lot more than 7.8G seems to be installed (8.7G)! why? :D
[09:22] <thegreedyturtle> can't say i know anything 'bout df
[09:22] <odyssey> df?
[09:22] <Dreamer3> jubei: difference in counting
[09:22] <revelater> topyli: maybe the ./ if for sections?
[09:22] <Dreamer3> jinx``: df is correct
[09:22] <topyli> revelater: check your sources.list file directly. we never know what synaptic does :)
[09:22] <jubei> Hmmm, why is everyone talking to me =)
[09:23] <Reblended> Morning all
[09:23] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: it's gotta be the shoes
[09:23] <jinx``> why?
[09:23] <jubei> kekek
[09:23] <Reblended> red ruby
[09:23] <Dreamer3> jinx``: *shrugs*
[09:23] <jinx``> :(
[09:23] <Dreamer3> jinx``: why worry?
[09:23] <daile> maybe, because jubei is a very easy and short name, it's easier to write your name!
[09:23] <jinx``> that's almost 1 gig
[09:23] <odyssey> jubei, what shoes are you wearing?
[09:23] <Reblended> reb < only three letters to type with left hand
[09:24] <revelater> topyli: i thikn it worked, whats your most current version?
[09:24] <Dreamer3> jinx``: ok? and?
[09:24] <Dreamer3> jinx``: the space used it used, regardless of how it's repored
[09:24] <Dreamer3> jinx``: you can't "have it back"
[09:24] <jinx``> i don't like it when my diskspace disappears
[09:24] <topyli> revelater: 0.8.11-1
[09:24] <Dreamer3> jinx``: *laughs*
[09:24] <jinx``> :>
[09:24] <Dreamer3> jinx``: it's a counting thing
[09:24] <Reblended> jinx``, xp does that too.. but it's for prefetch and hiberfiles etc
[09:24] <jubei> Will I have to reconfigure my nvida drivers after I boot the new kernel? Will X even start?
[09:24] <revelater> yah, it works now, thanks...
[09:25] <revelater> now to try out freeciv...
[09:25] <Reblended> stop pounding your harddrive, jinx`` =p
[09:25] <revelater> cya all!
[09:25] <topyli> revelater: ok. now we won't see you for days :)
[09:25] <Dreamer3> revelater: i need to get that again :)
[09:25] <Reblended> lol topyli
[09:26] <thegreedyturtle> a palm leaf
[09:26] <thegreedyturtle> oops
[09:26] <thegreedyturtle> mistype
[09:27] <Reblended> is there a way in Azureus to see a map of the file and what parts are completed?
[09:28] <elcu> anyone feel like recommending any of the games in the repo?  (too much choice!)
[09:28] <thegreedyturtle> jubei: i have no freakin clue =P
[09:28] <Reblended> if I stop a torrent... do I have to start over?
[09:28] <topyli> elcu: everyone has prefernences. i play clanbomber most of the time
[09:29] <thegreedyturtle> jube: as far as will X even start, you won't know if linux will even start until you actually try out that new kernel! but you can fallback and try again
[09:29] <Nomikos> Reblended: no, torrents can pick up where they left of
[09:29] <jrf> nop, you dont have to start over
[09:29] <elcu> topyli: i've tried it.  not to my liking :)
[09:29] <Reblended> Nomikos, thx! cool, jrf thanks. aww
[09:30] <Nomikos> hmm.. must come back here sometime, bedtime for now :-)
[09:30] <Reblended> k
[09:30] <elcu> topyli: i prefer my snes bomberman roms
[09:30] <Reblended> so can't resume torrents
[09:30] <Tirn1> hi
[09:30] <Reblended> hi
[09:30] <Tirn1> I recently installed ubuntu on a laptop
[09:31] <Tirn1> I'm having trouble with the touchpad
[09:31] <topyli> elcu: it's true though. there are so many games in the debian repositories, you should have years of free time before you find out what you like
[09:31] <Tirn1> it worked out of the box
[09:31] <Reblended> Does BitTorrent support resuming?
[09:31] <Reblended> Yes, just save your download to the same location as the existing partial download. BitTorrent will resume where it left off after checking the partial download.
[09:31] <Reblended> plug in a usb mouse, Tirn1 , I hate anything less. =] 
[09:31] <Tirn1> but the border acceleration is too fast. This is a pain with drag and drop and scrolling
[09:31] <Tirn1> I actually really like my touchpad
[09:31] <Tirn1> strange as it may seem
[09:32] <Reblended> heh better than those eraser thingies
[09:32] <Tirn1> yah
[09:32] <jubei> You can resum torrents
[09:32] <jubei> those statements are true
[09:32] <Reblended> great jubei !
[09:32] <Tirn1> The mouse-dialog doesn't seem to have the advanced settings
[09:32] <jrf> yes, you only have to download the same file and it will check what yoy have downloaded
[09:32] <Reblended> I wonder if azureus would support it
[09:32] <Reblended> ic
[09:32] <jubei> at least you can with azureues. my fave bittorrent client
[09:32] <Tirn1> and google doesn't seem to be much help
[09:32] <jubei> yes it does =)
[09:32] <Reblended> woo
[09:33] <jubei> even if you move files from one pc 2 another
[09:33] <Tirn1> so basically, where do I find the mouse driver configurations?
[09:33] <Reblended> that's what's missing! advanced settings! I only get wep for wireless encryption, not wpa...
[09:33] <Tirn1> wpa is there
[09:33] <Reblended> ooH?
[09:33] <Tirn1> but disactivated, no?
[09:33] <Tirn1> it sez at boot time
[09:33] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle aww, I miss him
[09:33] <Reblended> ic
[09:33] <Tirn1> wpa_supplicant disactivated
[09:33] <test> im still here
[09:34] <Reblended> Tirn1, yes... I remember now.. there is a wiki for that
[09:34] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, wb thegreedyturtle
[09:34] <Reblended> ooh I love torrents...
[09:34] <Reblended> zoom past the slower downloaders and help too
[09:35] <thegreedyturtle> i loved Azureus, but i just couldn't take it's bloat
[09:36] <Reblended> only like 5 megs?
[09:36] <thegreedyturtle> i remember it slowing my machine down a lot more than ABC
[09:37] <kakalto> is there a guide to joypad support under ubuntu?
[09:37] <babylon> msg nickserv set hide email on
[09:38] <Reblended> is there a way I can get an adaptor to use my old joysticks with usb?
[09:38] <thegreedyturtle> probably not
[09:38] <Reblended> $$
[09:38] <kakalto> anyone?
[09:39] <thegreedyturtle> but you *could* go out and buy an old sound card with game port for a dollar fiddy
[09:39] <kakalto> hehe
[09:39] <kakalto> my ol' comp has one o' those
[09:39] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, ooh! come on over and install it in my laptop. please?
[09:39] <Reblended> =p
[09:39] <babylon>  /msg nickserv link babylon 5628830
[09:39] <thegreedyturtle> Reblended, sure, let me get my sodering iron
[09:39] <Jim7J1AJH> Reblended:  Yes, they exist.  Belkin (among others) sells them.
[09:39] <Reblended> rofl thegreedyturtle
[09:39] <Reblended> ty Jim7J1AJH !  woot.. now I can use my MIDI cable
[09:40] <jinx``> with du -x it works
[09:40] <Reblended> oooh, cheap too, TY again Jim7J1AJH
[09:40] <jinx``> now my question, why?
[09:41] <Reblended> just kidding
[09:42] <revelater> hey, i installed freeciv, but how do i run it?
[09:42] <revelater> ?
[09:42] <Reblended> ls -a ?
[09:42] <revelater> can't find it anywhere
[09:42] <topyli> revelater: it's a server-client program. you need to run the server first in an xterm, then the client
[09:42] <Reblended> locate freecif
[09:42] <Reblended> freeciv
[09:43] <revelater> ok, where do i run the server
[09:43] <kakalto> oh
[09:43] <revelater> ?
[09:43] <kakalto> I didn't realise
[09:43] <Reblended> funny? topyli I didn't have to do that in xp
[09:43] <kakalto> there's no need for a joypad howto
[09:43] <xmms> hi, can anybody tell me the difference among "hoary", "kunbuntu" , "warty" and 5.0.4 ?
[09:43] <topyli> revelater: like 'civserver' and 'civclient-gtk'
[09:44] <Upayavira> xmms: hoary = 5.0.4
[09:44] <Upayavira> xmms: warty = previous release before hoary
[09:44] <xmms> Upayavira, any how about the others . ?
[09:44] <Upayavira> xmms: kubuntu = ubuntu hoary - gnome + kde
[09:44] <balor> xmms: kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE rather than GNOME
[09:45] <xmms> Upayavira, many thx.
[09:45] <xmms> ;)
[09:45] <revelater> topyli: i cann't start, aren't enough players?!?!
[09:45] <thegreedyturtle> is there a live kubuntu?
[09:45] <xmms> Upayavira, is hoary marked stable ?
[09:45] <Upayavira> yes as of a week or so.
[09:45] <thegreedyturtle> oooo
[09:46] <xmms> greate. I will try it on my T42 laptop.
[09:46] <revelater> topyli: i thinki am getting it now
[09:46] <topyli> revelater: in the server, do something like 'set aifill 5' so when you connect, it will add 4 AI players
[09:46] <Upayavira> thegreedyturtle: yes was to hoary being live, not to live kubuntu. Don't know that.
[09:46] <topyli> revelater: then do 'start' in the server and the game will begin
[09:47] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle,   =D
[09:47] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle,  gonna get this next  http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5.04-live-i386.iso.torrent
[09:47] <thegreedyturtle> Upayavira, i just found it, google kubuntu live
[09:47] <thegreedyturtle> err what he said
[09:47] <Reblended> lol
[09:47] <thegreedyturtle> ;)
[09:48] <xmms> Reblended, is there somepackage optimized for i686 ?
[09:48] <Reblended> sry xmms
[09:49] <geargolem> help
[09:49] <thegreedyturtle> i686?
[09:49] <Reblended> me
[09:49] <xmms> Reblended, someday it will have I think
[09:49] <geargolem> mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[09:49] <Reblended> =] 
[09:49] <topyli> xmms: there's a 686 kernel, but everything else is compiled for 386
[09:50] <thegreedyturtle> is 686 64 bit?
[09:50] <topyli> thegreedyturtle: no, it's pentium 3 and 4 IIRC
[09:50] <xmms> topyli, something should changed. I think
[09:50] <thegreedyturtle> k
[09:51] <geargolem> unable to mount volume
[09:51] <Reblended> oh cool.... an airstick?
[09:51] <geargolem> on cdrom
[09:51] <Reblended> mount? ride em cowboy!
[09:52] <revelater> topyli, is there a remte server i can connect to?
[09:52] <topyli> xmms: it's hard to compile a different distro for every machine. then we'd need an athlon build as well, and whatnot
[09:53] <topyli> revelater: i guess people have them. never tried myself
[09:53] <geargolem> cdrom volume will not mount :(
[09:54] <elcu> hello, is there any way to upgrade specific packages?  i'm stll running warty and only want to upgrade xchat, but it doesn't signal that it is upgradeable in synaptic.
[09:54] <geargolem> elcu enable universe in synaptic 'preferences'
[09:56] <elcu> geargolem: there's isn't anything in the preferences dialog to enable universe.
[09:56] <elcu> geargolem: besides, i have already enabled universe
[09:57] <geargolem> sudo apt-get install xchat work?
[09:57] <elcu> "xchat is already the newest version."
[09:58] <revelater> topyli, hey... how do iplay?
[09:58] <elcu> but it's not: 2.0.8
[09:58] <revelater> topyli, how do ibuild a city,a nd how do i move players
[09:58] <geargolem> download it from the website and ./configure elcu
[09:58] <revelater> ?
[09:58] <geargolem> then $make    then $make install
[09:58] <sageek> I'm using beep media player with the es driver, so mp3 will work, anyhow mplayer won't run since he uses oss, [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[09:58] <sageek> alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default
[09:58] <sageek> , any clue how i can fix it?
[09:59] <elcu> the source?
[09:59] <geargolem> elcu, yes
[09:59] <Reblended> thegreedyturtle, later man!
[09:59] <Reblended> ReM sleep  RexM?
[10:00] <thegreedyturtle> later
[10:00] <RexM|Asleep> ?
[10:00] <thegreedyturtle> im off too
[10:00] <geargolem> need help with cdrom volume not mounting
[10:00] <thegreedyturtle> i responded a little late ;P
[10:00] <Xeon3D> I can't burn any DVD's with speeds > 1x. It seems UltraDMA is disabled. I saw somewhere that there was a wiki about this...
[10:00] <elcu> geargolem: should i uninstall this old xchat first?
[10:01] <geargolem> elcu , no the install should append it
[10:01] <elcu> righto.  thanks.
[10:01] <geargolem> :P
[10:02] <topyli> revelater: well, you need to study a bit, there's a help menu :)
[10:02] <geargolem> ogra, cdrom volume will not mount
[10:02] <ogra> geargolem, ??
[10:03] <geargolem> when accessing cdrom, i get mount: special device /dev/hdc does not exist
[10:03] <sageek> can i make mplayer use esound?
[10:04] <Juhaz> mplayer -ao esd
[10:04] <elcu> geargolem: i assume that process will work for other programs?
[10:05] <Xeon3D> how can I set DMA on on every drive? and how can I improve IDE performance?
[10:05] <geargolem> elcu, yes.  but apt-get install when you can for sanity's sake :P
[10:05] <topyli> sageek: yes. i don't know the command line option but there's an option in the gui preferences at least
[10:05] <topyli> ah. Juhaz knows
[10:05] <geargolem> or sudo apt-get install if you aren't root
[10:06] <sageek> It's mplayer -ao esd
[10:06] <elcu> geargolem: yep, :) i'm not that much of a noob.
[10:06] <sageek> tho i don't have esd support on mplayer
[10:06] <sageek> just noticed.
[10:06] <geargolem> :P
[10:06] <liable> Xeon3D: hdparm, be carefull with it but
[10:07] <sageek> I can't use anything but eSound on beep media player, if i try to use alsa it like stuck the whole sys
[10:07] <St0n3-C0l> Hey guys...There some prob with mplayer
[10:07] <St0n3-C0l> when I watch movie in full screen
[10:08] <St0n3-C0l> it goes in Full screen mode but show the movie in normal size
[10:08] <liable> St0n3-C0l: change video drivers in mplayer
[10:08] <pokute> -vo xv
[10:09] <St0n3-C0l> aham
[10:14] <pokute> St0n3-C0l, look in settings, you can select the video driver
[10:14] <pokute> select xv, and test :)
[10:16] <St0n3-C0l> pokute and liable thanks i'll try ;)
[10:20] <Bolga> Hi all !
[10:20] <MyNameIsChris> Bolga, Howdy
[10:20] <Bolga> What would be for you the simplier and more professional (but nice) cell phone message recorder ?
[10:20] <Choubaka> Hm.
[10:21] <Choubaka> How can I prevent ubuntu from loading pcspkr module in boot?
[10:21] <Choubaka> I think it's being loaded by hotplug :/
[10:21] <Choubaka> I _hate_ the pc speaker.
[10:22] <Olsen> disconnect that on your motherboard
[10:22] <liable> Choubaka: blacklist it in hotplug and discover, or you could just turn the volume down
[10:22] <della> hi
[10:22] <della> anyone has successfully used webdav under nautilus?
[10:24] <spo0nman> [offtopic]  does anyone has a recomendation for a sub $200 digicam?
[10:25] <Choubaka> liable: hmm
[10:30] <Olsen> what is a good cd/dvd burner program?
[10:30] <Olsen> i know cdrecord, but i mean a GUI tool
[10:31] <Olsen> s/cdrecord/cdrtools
[10:31] <MyNameIsChris> Olsen, cdrecord owns but K3B?
[10:31] <St0n3-C0l> cdrecord command-line is good ;)
[10:31] <St0n3-C0l> and K3B too
[10:31] <St0n3-C0l> Gnomebaker too.
[10:31] <Olsen> yeah i like cdrecord, i was just asking :)
[10:31] <St0n3-C0l> gnomebaker uses cdrecord
[10:32] <Olsen> i know k3b is good, but i'm with gnome, and i don't wanna install qt/kdelibs
[10:32] <Olsen> ok
[10:32] <Rima> why is it that ubuntu out of the box, looks so much more finished that kubuntu - the default font / size is horrid
[10:32] <lizdeika> ubuntu is older
[10:32] <lizdeika> second release
[10:33] <Olsen> Rima, you mean the default font on kubuntu?
[10:33] <nixbox> hi all
[10:33] <nixbox> bob2, hi
[10:33] <Rima> Olsen, yeah just comparing out of the box.. ubuntu is way more pleasent to look at
[10:33] <Olsen> i agree
[10:33] <eaon> much more finished than or that kubuntu?
[10:33] <lizdeika> at least for me warty wasnt too good too
[10:34] <Olsen> does gnome 2.10 comes with this font by default?
[10:34] <Rima> Im running kubuntu now, have to admit I am very close to re-installing ubuntu
[10:34] <eaon> is it bitstream vera?
[10:34] <St0n3-C0l> I agree, GNOME 2.10 rocks but Kubuntu comes with menueditor :P
[10:35] <eaon> the ubuntu default theme i mean
[10:35] <St0n3-C0l> Thankgod I haven't removed my GNOME 2.10 yet
[10:35] <eaon> if that uses bitstream
[10:35] <Olsen> i used kde before but i love gnome 2.10 now and i tryed kde 3.4 but i prefer gnome 2.10
[10:36] <Olsen> i like others DE's WM's too... one of my favorite is enlightenment 0.17 ;)
[10:36] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen: I used KDE 5-6months before and after that GNOME but using KDE again atm
[10:36] <Olsen> ok :)
[10:36] <Xeon3D> true.. and ubuntu has a LOT less bugs than kubuntu (i've tried them both)
[10:37] <Olsen> i feel that kde is more customizable... but i like the usability of gnome
[10:37] <Xeon3D> in kubuntu my <  key wont work
[10:37] <Xeon3D> no matter what I do.
[10:37] <Rima> ok guys you've convinced me... ubuntu it is - off to reinstall
[10:37] <Rima> :)
[10:37] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen: Goal...:P
[10:37] <Xeon3D> any other key works. :P even accented ltt?s
[10:37] <Xeon3D> :P
[10:37] <Olsen> St0n3-C0l, ? :)
[10:37] <St0n3-C0l> you spoke the truth :>
[10:37] <Xeon3D> anyways .. I'm off to bed (9.30 AM here)
[10:38] <Xeon3D> c ya guys
[10:38] <Olsen> St0n3-C0l, i'm glad :)
[10:38] <eaon> Olsen: right - kde is heading towards customisability ("we don't design - we let our users do it") wheras gnome is trying to keep everything usable
[10:38] <St0n3-C0l> Rima: LOL
[10:38] <St0n3-C0l> Rima: why not apt-get ?
[10:38] <St0n3-C0l> Xeon3D: LOL
[10:38] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen ;)
[10:38] <Olsen> :)
[10:38] <Juhaz> eaon, yes, it's bitstream vera sans
[10:39] <eaon> aye
[10:39] <ircbot_> is there a shortcut to go between desktops in gnome?
[10:39] <Juhaz> ctrl+alt+arrowkeys
[10:40] <St0n3-C0l> ircbot_: Click on Desktop and then ALT+TAB
[10:40] <St0n3-C0l> not on Linux
[10:40] <eaon> i know this is a strange thing to ask, but does anyone here have an ie that he could "borrow" me? i have done a best-practice implementation of the www.ubuntu.com skin for plone and i need to test it a bit
[10:40] <Olsen> damn... i'm losing hair :((
[10:41] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen: Stop masterbating :P] 
[10:41] <Olsen> LOL :P
[10:42] <Olsen> haha
[10:42] <St0n3-C0l> kidding eh
[10:42] <ircbot_> oh wow using gnome-terminal kinda kills fast switching on irssi
[10:42] <St0n3-C0l> but really...it'll ruin our life
[10:42] <Morrigu> hi
[10:42] <Olsen> hm... what is the root password on ubuntu?
[10:43] <ircbot_> Olsen: there isn't one
[10:43] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen: sudo :P
[10:43] <Morrigu> Is there a way to prevent Places from showing all my mounts ?
[10:43] <St0n3-C0l> put the ur username pass
[10:43] <Olsen> there isn't root?
[10:43] <ircbot_> Olsen: sudo is used for everything but if you are like me and really want a root password do sudo passwd root
[10:43] <Olsen> i never used sudo, what is it?
[10:43] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen: there is but disabled, to enable it sudo passwd root
[10:43] <Morrigu> Super User DO
[10:43] <ircbot_> Olsen: google root ubuntu
[10:43] <Olsen> ok
[10:44] <ircbot_> Olsen: you'll need to read that
[10:44] <snowblink> Olsen, sudo <superusercommand>
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> the link is in the topic
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> haha
[10:44] <Olsen> thx everyone ;)
[10:44] <St0n3-C0l> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:44] <ircbot_> np
[10:44] <ircbot_> the whole no root thing confused me
[10:44] <ircbot_>  but eh i don't really use su even though i set up the password
[10:45] <Morrigu> how do i configure the places panel ?
[10:45] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[10:45] <ircbot_> Olsen: you can also sudo -s to get into an su equiv
[10:45] <St0n3-C0l> but ircbot
[10:45] <ircbot_> but what?
[10:45] <St0n3-C0l> do u feel that after su enabled...sudo requires password more frequently ?
[10:45] <ircbot_> St0n3-C0l: yes
[10:45] <Olsen> so the user account that i created has administrative rights using 'sudo' right?
[10:45] <snowblink> St0n3-C0l, you can set the timeout
[10:45] <ircbot_> St0n3-C0l: i kind of like that
[10:45] <St0n3-C0l> me too :P
[10:46] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen: Yes :P
[10:46] <snowblink> Olsen, first account, yes
[10:46] <St0n3-C0l> you're learning quickly ;)
[10:46] <Olsen> cool :))
[10:46] <ircbot_> how do you set the timeout for sudo?
[10:46] <Olsen> heh
[10:46] <Olsen> St0n3-C0l, i used linux before :P
[10:46] <St0n3-C0l> same question was in my mind ircbot_ :P
[10:46] <Olsen> but never ubuntu
[10:46] <St0n3-C0l> copy cat hah
[10:47] <St0n3-C0l> eh..
[10:47] <snowblink> ircbot_, man sudoers
[10:47] <St0n3-C0l> I am in debian-based distros from 3-4 months
[10:47] <St0n3-C0l> snowblink thanks :P
[10:47] <ircbot_> snowblink: thanks... and also is there a way to disable su after you enable it?
[10:47] <Moe|Joe|c> hello people
[10:47] <nixbox> i am having problems upgrading from warty to hoary, i had changed my sources.list to point to hoary repositories, then i did sudo apt-get update followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, but it didnt upgrade rather it says that there 22 packages that have not been upgraded along with 0 newly installed and 0 removed, what could be the problem and how can i resolve it?
[10:47] <Olsen> i used slackware and lfs a lot...
[10:47] <St0n3-C0l> do anybody uses gdesklets here ?
[10:47] <snowblink> ircbot_, yes - you just lock the root account
[10:48] <Olsen> i tryed ubuntu because everyone was doing it :)
[10:48] <St0n3-C0l> ircbot_: sudo passwd -1 root
[10:48] <St0n3-C0l> or sudo passwd -l root
[10:48] <Moe|Joe|c> i jus installed hoary on my laptop and wen i goto log into ubuntu..nothing happens...
[10:48] <St0n3-C0l> its sudo passwd -l root
[10:48] <Olsen> St0n3-C0l, where are you from?
[10:48] <snowblink> Olsen, If you've done LFS, then Ubuntu should be a breeze
[10:49] <Olsen> snowblink, it is :)
[10:49] <Olsen> i did a lot
[10:49] <St0n3-C0l> Pakistan
[10:49] <Olsen> and i'm planing to do it again
[10:49] <Olsen> i'm from paraguay :)
[10:49] <ircbot_> nice
[10:49] <Olsen> i'm probably the only one from my country on this network :P
[10:49] <St0n3-C0l> nixbox: Hey ;)
[10:49] <snowblink> Olsen, no creo.
[10:50] <nixbox> St0n3-C0l, which city?
[10:50] <St0n3-C0l> nixbox: Khi ?
[10:50] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen: eh :P
[10:50] <nixbox> St0n3-C0l, I am from Islamabad
[10:50] <ircbot_> herm need to find a way to quick switch in irssi in gnome-terminal...
[10:50] <Olsen> and no one probably knows what ubuntu is on my country :P
[10:50] <St0n3-C0l> khi
[10:50] <nixbox> ok
[10:51] <Sionide> Olsen - in that case, it's YOUR job to spread the word.
[10:51] <snowblink> Olsen, stick around. I've seen lots of people from SAmerica
[10:51] <Moe|Joe|c> can anyone help me?
[10:51] <nixbox> hey snowblink
[10:51] <St0n3-C0l> how to get ident@registerednick.user
[10:51] <St0n3-C0l> nixbox: ahan
[10:51] <snowblink> nixbox, hallo
[10:51] <Olsen> snowblink, really?
[10:51] <Moe|Joe|c> i jus installed hoary on my laptop and wen i goto log into ubuntu..gnome doesnt load up or nething
[10:51] <nixbox> snowblink, i am still stuck in upgrading warty to hoary
[10:52] <snowblink> Olsen, si. :)
[10:52] <ircbot_> there we go
[10:52] <Olsen> Sionide, i'm doing that :) i already distributed some cds with hoary to my friends
[10:52] <Sionide> good stuff, well done
[10:52] <snowblink> nixbox, did you install any packages yourself (dpkg -i)?
[10:52] <St0n3-C0l> nibox: try to use Synaptic ?
[10:52] <nixbox> snowblink, no because, i want to upgrade to hoary first
[10:52] <Olsen> and i got a job in a little enterprise here, i need to do migration from windows -> linux and i picked ubuntu for that
[10:53] <snowblink> nixbox, I meant under warty
[10:53] <nixbox> snowblink, dpkg would only install a single package
[10:53] <Olsen> ubuntu for the desktop
[10:53] <nixbox> snowblink, no I didn't try
[10:53] <snowblink> nixbox, I know
[10:53] <snowblink> nixbox, I am wondering if in your entire warty experience if you ever installed a package not from the standard repositories
[10:54] <Olsen> how can root exist on my system and be desactivated?
[10:54] <nixbox> snowblink, when my sources.list were pointing to warty repositories, I had done sudo apt-get update, and then i changed the repositories to that of hoary, again did an apt-get update followed by dist-upgrade, but only ended up with 22 packages that have not been upgraded, lots of packages have unmet dependencies
[10:54] <Olsen> how you desactivate an account?
[10:55] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen: root account ?
[10:55] <nixbox> snowblink, entire is too big a world for my 3rd day using warty :P
[10:55] <nixbox> s/world/word
[10:56] <Olsen> St0n3-C0l, yes... root exist on ubuntu right? i understand is desactivated...
[10:56] <ircbot_> okay i finally got my music to play
[10:56] <ircbot_> but now all my other sounds are fucked
[10:56] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen: yeah it is
[10:56] <Olsen> St0n3-C0l, but how can be desactivated? and you how desactivate an account?
[10:56] <snowblink> nixbox, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23624&page=1&pp=10
[10:56] <Morrigu> please someone tell me how to prevent Places-menu from showing all my mounted porn-shares :P
[10:57] <snowblink> Olsen, it's locked
[10:57] <Olsen> ok
[10:57] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen: sudo passwd root
[10:57] <snowblink> Olsen, sudo passwd -l root (as St0n3-C0l pointed out earlier)
[10:58] <Olsen> ah ok :)
[10:58] <snowblink> Olsen, that locks the account
[10:58] <Olsen> thx
[10:58] <_Pom> hi
[10:58] <snowblink> Morrigu, don't mount them. ;)
[10:59] <St0n3-C0l> ohh
[10:59] <St0n3-C0l> he wanted to Deactivate :P
[10:59] <snowblink> Morrigu, it is possible I think if you dive into regedit
[10:59] <Olsen> why ubuntu was started?
[11:00] <_Pom> new versioon of SPLASHY.... youhouuuu
[11:00] <snowblink> Olsen, Debian with latest goodies
[11:00] <Morrigu> snowblink : well not mounting pr0n is not an option! ;D
[11:00] <Olsen> ok
[11:00] <St0n3-C0l> why or when ?
[11:00] <Olsen> it has the same philosophy?
[11:00] <St0n3-C0l> ohh :P
[11:00] <Morrigu> snowblink : I was able to prevent mounts from showing on my desktop by editing "registry" (configuration editor?), but haven't found anything related to Places-menu
[11:00] <Olsen> St0n3-C0l, why and when :P
[11:00] <snowblink> Olsen, WRT what packages? Yes.
[11:01] <ircbot_> okay so does the nvidia nforce3 audio support just suck?  or is there something badly configured or what?
[11:01] <Olsen> latest goodies? do you mean that ubuntu is always using the latest software?
[11:01] <snowblink> Morrigu, Hmmm. Not sure then.
[11:01] <snowblink> Olsen, certainly more recent than Deadian stable
[11:02] <Olsen> ok
[11:02] <St0n3-C0l> When I use firefox and tries to browse any site...after sometime firefox starts sucking 100% resources of ur CPU....anybody else having this prob ?
[11:02] <snowblink> St0n3-C0l, flash?
[11:03] <St0n3-C0l> snowblink: got the flash plugin but non-flash sites
[11:04] <ircbot_> must make sound work!
[11:04] <St0n3-C0l> mozilla-browser...and galeon both doesnot behave like this
[11:04] <Olsen> damn no xv driver on mplayer...
[11:04] <_Pom> for firefox... dissable the ipv6 support
[11:05] <ircbot_> okay i had sound working on everything but music
[11:05] <ircbot_> got music working and now no sound
[11:05] <_Pom> typing about:config in the adress bar
[11:05] <ircbot_> is there a process i possibly killed that i might be needing for sound again?
[11:05] <St0n3-C0l> u killed the process of Olsen :P
[11:06] <St0n3-C0l> haha
[11:06] <St0n3-C0l> ircbot_: haha stop killing processes :P
[11:06] <ircbot_> St0n3-C0l: well i was goofing around and got my music to work
[11:06] <ircbot_> now i can't make anything else work
[11:06] <St0n3-C0l> reboot ?
[11:06] <ircbot_> on linux?
[11:06] <St0n3-C0l> check volume level
[11:06] <ircbot_> you're a freak
[11:07] <ircbot_> volume is up
[11:07] <St0n3-C0l> and see if anything is muted
[11:07] <St0n3-C0l> PCM ?
[11:07] <St0n3-C0l> the same thing happened with me 1week before
[11:07] <ircbot_> no nothing is muted
[11:08] <ircbot_> i can have sound
[11:08] <ircbot_> like say i play music
[11:08] <ircbot_> or run esd
[11:08] <St0n3-C0l> I don't understand why Ubuntu is not allowing users to install any other version of kernel rather than their own kernel 2.6.8-5
[11:08] <St0n3-C0l> 2.6.10-5
[11:08] <pixil9> Why can't you?
[11:08] <Dull404> Does enabling "hoary-security universe" mean use security updates for packages that I have installed from "universe" or for "all packages on my computer" ??
[11:08] <St0n3-C0l> hmm
[11:08] <liable> ircbot_: stop whatever is using the sound card and try the new process then
[11:09] <Phreakazoid> there seems to be a 2.6.11 kernel in my apt repositories
[11:09] <ircbot_> liable: i did stop using it
[11:09] <ircbot_> it was xmms
[11:09] <Phreakazoid> but no corresponding other kernel packages at all
[11:09] <pixil9> good cards.
[11:09] <Phreakazoid> so its of absolutely no use
[11:09] <Phreakazoid> hm
[11:09] <pixil9> Compile it from ftp.kernel.org
[11:10] <Burgundavia> Dull404, hoary security-universe is for universe security updates. Don't expect any, would be what I would say
[11:10] <Olsen> gnome, metacity, etc already make use of the composite extension for eye candy?
[11:10] <Burgundavia> pixil9, I would not recommend running a stock kernel
[11:10] <St0n3-C0l> pixil9: I installed from ubuntu's repos...kernel 2.6.10-5-686
[11:10] <Phreakazoid> nowait
[11:10] <Phreakazoid> its fixed now
[11:10] <Phreakazoid> yay!
[11:10] <St0n3-C0l> when I booted..Kernel panic
[11:10] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[11:10] <pixil9> Burgundavia, why
[11:10] <ircbot_> i wish i could put an sb live in this box
[11:10] <ircbot_> it's what i use on my desktop
[11:10] <ircbot_> but this is a lappy
[11:10] <Burgundavia> pixil9, Vendor kernels are far more stable
[11:11] <pixil9> being an ubuntu kernel?
[11:11] <Burgundavia> yep
[11:11] <Burgundavia> the kernel you get from apt-get source kernelnumber
[11:11] <pixil9> they're the same kernels are they not? lol
[11:11] <Dull404> Burgundavia, ok good. I was afraid enabling hoary security-universe would be able to update stuff from main/restricted
[11:11] <Burgundavia> pixil9, no, very different
[11:11] <pixil9> o
[11:11] <pixil9> how?
[11:11] <Burgundavia> there are no 2 kernels in the world that look the same
[11:12] <Burgundavia> different patches
[11:12] <Burgundavia> different modules
[11:12] <Olsen> woww... my mother asked me if i can teach her to use linux... LOL ='D...
[11:12] <pixil9> Well ya you could compile a kernel with the right support and I think it'd be fine.
[11:12] <Burgundavia> I still would compile a kernel from my vendor
[11:12] <Burgundavia> as it is designed to work with the rest of my system
[11:13] <ircbot_> they don't make pcmcia sound cards by chance do they?
[11:13] <St0n3-C0l> Olsen: Sure...Teaching someone is the best profession in the world
[11:13] <pixil9> i think so
[11:14] <ircbot_> i can still open and play xmms immediately
[11:14] <ircbot_> but no normal everyday ubuntu sounds
[11:14] <St0n3-C0l> Burgundavia: But why kernel panic ??
[11:14] <Olsen> St0n3-C0l, indeed :))
[11:14] <pixil9> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/22/review_creative_audigy_2_zs/
[11:14] <pixil9> thats pcmcia heh
[11:14] <liable> ircbot_: are you just stopping play on xmms or killing it?
[11:14] <Burgundavia> St0n3-C0l, hmm?
[11:14] <ircbot_> closed it out
[11:15] <St0n3-C0l> Burgundavia: I got two kernel versions from Synaptic and both gave Kernel Panic
[11:15] <Burgundavia> St0n3-C0l, odd, no idea
[11:16] <St0n3-C0l> see :P
[11:16] <St0n3-C0l> u were argueing with pixil9 eh :P
[11:16] <St0n3-C0l> Everytime I get kernel from apt-get it gives me 'Kernel Panic'
[11:17] <MetalProc> Is nerim.net down prehaps? Haven't been able to apt-get update, it allways hangs on nerim.net's repo
[11:17] <liable> ircbot_: what driver is xmms using, use that on your other apps
[11:18] <St0n3-C0l> MetalProc: It's not down...try to browse it but on apt-get update it always hangs for me
[11:19] <ircbot_> liboss
[11:20] <ircbot_> xmms works if i change the driver
[11:20] <ircbot_> to libalsa
[11:20] <liable> ircbot_: alsa or oss? what else are you trying to get sound on
[11:20] <ircbot_> liable: psi, gnome
[11:20] <St0n3-C0l> http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=889
[11:20] <balor> What package contains the manpages to socket ind its ilk?
[11:20] <MetalProc> St0n3-C0l: Does many people have that problem, or is it case dependent?
[11:20] <St0n3-C0l> liable: alsa and oss both works on XMMS :P
[11:21] <liable> ircbot_: yes probably cause it uses oss emulation
[11:21] <St0n3-C0l> I don't know bout anyone else except you..but I always had this problem
[11:21] <ircbot_> like all my gnome sounds worked when i started up
[11:21] <ircbot_> but now that i finally got my music to work i can't get the others to
[11:21] <St0n3-C0l> hey hey
[11:21] <St0n3-C0l> ircbot_: try to disable gnome-sounds
[11:22] <St0n3-C0l> it happens with me all the time
[11:22] <St0n3-C0l> due to gnome sounds xmms hangs
[11:22] <liable> ircbot_: kill xmms, leave it for a minute,(there is a timeout for switching sound from one process to another) then try your gnome sounds
[11:22] <Dull404> what's in multiverse? mplayer?
[11:22] <balor> ircbot_: The problem is that our sound card dosn't have a hardware
[11:22] <balor> ircbot_: mixer.
[11:23] <balor> ircbot_: You have to use apps that agree to use a common software mixer
[11:23] <UsefulIdiot> So... who's going to the ubuntu downunder conference?
[11:23] <ircbot_> anyone know if that audigy zs pcmcia works under linux?
[11:23] <balor> ircbot_: The software mixer "owns" the soundcard
[11:23] <balor> ircbot_: and everyone else has to go through it...like a print spooler
[11:24] <balor> ircbot_: I use all GNOME apps - Rhythmbox, Munie, Totem...they're all happy to use ESD which uses ALSA which uses my soundcard
[11:24] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[11:24] <balor> ircbot_: If XMMS has an ESD driver, use that
[11:24] <ircbot_> balor: k
[11:25] <ircbot_> herm... there a good gnome jabber client then?
[11:25] <ircbot_> don't say gaim
[11:25] <MetalProc> St0n3-C0l: Fixed it, it was a firewall problem, ftp wasn't enabled in guarddog. Heh
[11:25] <balor> ircbot_: Either Gaim or Gossip
[11:25] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[11:25] <St0n3-C0l> MetalProc: I don't know whats the problem with mine one
[11:25] <St0n3-C0l> Gaim is gr8
[11:26] <St0n3-C0l> Less buggy
[11:26] <MetalProc> You have checked your firewall?
[11:26] <balor> I prefer Gossip, but Gaim will get though my damned proxy
[11:26] <St0n3-C0l> I don't use any firewall :P
[11:26] <_Pom> gaim sucks
[11:26] <balor> I don't use one...it uses me
[11:26] <St0n3-C0l> balor: tsocks ?
[11:26] <MetalProc> St0n3-C0l: Heh, ok
[11:26] <ircbot_> i don't like gaim
[11:27] <ircbot_> mainly because i don't like aim
[11:27] <ircbot_> i like jabber... and i like encryption over jabber that can work with more than one client
[11:27] <balor> St0n3-C0l: Nope, only squid
[11:27] <ircbot_> gaim-encryption works, but only with other gaim users
[11:27] <snowblink> ircbot_, You can access jabber with GAIM
[11:27] <ircbot_> whole sentence...
[11:27] <Dull404> i use gaim for jabber
[11:27] <MyNameIsChris> I discovered the reason for my dvd drive's lousiness (using_dma 0), how do I enable it? --Warty
[11:27] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[11:28] <snowblink> MyNameIsChris, man hdparm
[11:28] <balor> MyNameIsChris: hdparam -d 1 /dev/dvd
[11:28] <MyNameIsChris> Thankyou very much
[11:30] <MyNameIsChris> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted?
[11:30] <Dull404> To get vsftpd running (and working), i need to change hosts.allow ? vsftpd: ALL ? or ALL: vsftpd .....
[11:31] <ircbot_> gnome sounds will use esd right?
[11:31] <topyli> anybody know how to make xhat text respect autojoins i have set in the gui version?
[11:31] <Dull404> MyNameIsChris, try sudo <command>
[11:31] <MyNameIsChris> I did
[11:31] <topyli> xchat-text even
[11:35] <topyli> it's hard enough to chat over ssh over the phone as it is, would prefer not to have to waste time joining channels :)
[11:35] <balor> ircbot_: Gnome will use whatever you set in your "multemidia Systems Selection" app
[11:35] <MyNameIsChris> I am not permitted as sudo root or actual root
[11:35] <MacGyver> Hi, does anyone know why I cant 'make' the ipw drivers? I get "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop." <- I have build-essentials installed what else do I need?
[11:35] <ircbot_> balor: k
[11:36] <balor> MacGyver: You need kernel-headers
[11:36] <MacGyver> balor, thank I will try that
[11:36] <MacGyver> what is the command though, sudo apt-get install kernel-headers?
[11:36] <balor> MacGyver: linux-headers-686 to be exact
[11:37] <ircbot_> woohoo got sound working
[11:37] <topyli> linux-headers is the ubuntu package IIRC
[11:37] <balor> ircbot_: great :)
[11:37] <ircbot_> thanks for the tip with esd balor
[11:38] <Dull404> anyone know?
[11:38] <Upayavira> MacGyver: why do you want to build ipw drivers?
[11:38] <MacGyver> WPA doesn't seem to work with the default ones
[11:39] <Upayavira> MacGyver: okay. No probs.
[11:39] <MacGyver> oh, linux-headers-686 didnt work, it needed to be 386
[11:39] <MacGyver> it's building now though, so thanks! I had no idea which package to get
[11:39] <ircbot_> why does gossip look like they stole code from gaim and just removed everything but jabber?
[11:39] <balor> ircbot_: They probably did...but it's not stealing..it's code reuse
[11:40] <pureplaye> can anyone help me with conecting adsl ethernet conection
[11:40] <ircbot_> heh well if they added anything i'd call it that
[11:40] <Dull404> hm.. found it, never mind
[11:40] <topyli> ircbot_: maybe that's what they did :)
[11:41] <ircbot_> ima check out gabber
[11:41] <ircbot_> 2
[11:41] <topyli> stealing code is good, reinventing the wheel is dumb
[11:41] <ircbot_> granted
[11:41] <ircbot_> and for people who like me who don't want all the crap of gaim but want jabber...
[11:42] <ircbot_> however... it doesn't offer the one thing i want that is also not offered in gaim
[11:42] <ircbot_> using pgp keys for encryption
[11:42] <Evila> can anyone help me with my internet conection with ubuntu
[11:42] <topyli> ircbot_: and decent irc interface..
[11:43] <raghu> Evila: what is the problem?
[11:45] <Fac51> i could use some help if anyone has some time
[11:45] <enplo> i just added marillat to the apt sources (following the guide on RestrictedFormats, adding the gpg keys and all) and it hangs on apt-get update. is marillat down or something?
[11:45] <Evila> raghu: i've never used ubuntu befor
[11:45] <topyli> anyway, nobody knows why xchat-text doesn't load all the shit i setup in the gui version? join the same channels?
[11:45] <Fac51> i totally effed my xorg.conf, can anyone help?
[11:45] <Evila> raghu: trying to get the net from my adsl conection on ubuntu
[11:46] <snowblink> Fac51, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:46] <raghu> Evila :configure pppoe
[11:47] <Evila> elaborate?
[11:47] <Fac51> snowblink; all in one?
[11:47] <Evila> i only just installed ubuntu an have never sed
[11:47] <Evila> used
[11:47] <snowblink> Fac51, all in one what?
[11:48] <raghu> Evila : as root run pppeconf through command prompt
[11:48] <Ex-Cyber> enplo: seems to be up for me
[11:48] <raghu> evila: remaining all you can follow throught it
[11:48] <topyli> evila: do you have one of them weird usb adsl modems or do you connect via regular ethernet?
[11:49] <ircbot_> unfortunately nothing is as good as psi
[11:49] <Fac51> snowblink; i'm going through it now... there's some stuff i'm not sure of though
[11:49] <enplo> umm it's an ipv6 problem maybe. when i try to ping it it responds correctly, but apt tries to contact an ipv6 address
[11:50] <enplo> when i access the ftp using the ipv4 address it works ok, but when i access it by name it gets an ipv6 address and hangs there..
[11:50] <enplo> can i disable ipv6 someway?
[11:51] <MyNameIsChris> snowblink, balor, http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZLLT1e46.html
[11:51] <Fac51> "fatal IO error 104"
[11:56] <ircbot_> what port does jabber usually connect to?
[11:56] <snowblink> MyNameIsChris, It is unlikely that /dev/hda is your DVD drive
[11:58] <MyNameIsChris> snowblink, It is
[11:58] <MyNameIsChris> snowblink, trust me
[11:58] <MyNameIsChris> snowblink, SATA HDD
[11:58] <snowblink> MyNameIsChris, okay. Are you sure it supports?
[11:58] <MyNameIsChris> snowblink, I know it does
[11:59] <snowblink> MyNameIsChris, is your kernel prepared for the drive?
[12:00] <MyNameIsChris> snowblink, I imagine it would be
[12:00] <MyNameIsChris> I'll investigate
[12:01] <snowblink> MyNameIsChris, try compiling it directly in, as opposed to module - to make sure it works
[12:02] <jojo123> Hi all. Does anyone have any good site for starting out with bash scripting?
[12:02] <MyNameIsChris> snowblink, Thanks, but I imagine Ubuntu would support DMA out of the box
[12:04] <Dull404> why is main restricted on the same line? is it main "and" restricted?
[12:04] <odyssey> MyNameIsChris, no it doesnt do dma for optical drives out of the box
[12:04] <steved> jojo123: there is a good bash guide on the linux documentation project web site www.tldp.org
[12:04] <MyNameIsChris> odyssey, So I have to make my own kernel?
[12:05] <odyssey> no enable it using hdparm sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/(optical device here) is a quick fix, there is stuff on the forums about it
[12:05] <jojo123> steved: Thanks i will check it out!
[12:06] <steved> jojo123: infact there are 2 one for beginners and an advanced guide
[12:07] <koba> hello
[12:07] <koba> could anyone tell me how to add an entry into the main menu in GNOME?
[12:08] <jojo123> steved: alright cheers. I want to do a automatic menu creator for openbox since it does not recognise the /usr/lib/menu/ files at all. I was thinking of listing the contents of the files and extract the info i need for the ~/.config/openbox/menu.xml
[12:08] <MyNameIsChris> odyssey, http://rafb.net/paste/results/wipPai89.html
[12:09] <jojo123> steved: but i know .... ehhh ... nothing about scripting :-)
[12:10] <odyssey> MyNameIsChris, -d1 as in 1 = one hda will be your harddrive i would image
[12:10] <steved> jojo123: my skills arnt all that good either im still working through those guides myself :)
[12:11] <MyNameIsChris> odyssey, Could you please explain that again. hda is my DVD drive
[12:12] <jojo123> steved: Looking at the beginner guide now. Exactly what I need! That, and a coffee!
[12:12] <koba> could someone kindly tell me how to add an entry to the main menu?
[12:13] <koba> please?
[12:13] <Dull404> koba, google +gnome +"menu tweaking"
[12:14] <odyssey> MyNameIsChris, you sure it is your dvd drive? msg me with your fstab contents
[12:14] <odyssey> koba, ubuntuguide.org
[12:14] <MyNameIsChris> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[12:14] <MyNameIsChris> /dev/sda2       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:14] <MyNameIsChris> /dev/sda3       none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:14] <MyNameIsChris> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       0
[12:14] <MyNameIsChris> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[12:14] <MyNameIsChris> /dev/sdb        /media/usb0     auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[12:14] <MyNameIsChris> /dev/sdb1       /mnt/card       vfat    rw,user,noauto
[12:14] <MyNameIsChris> /dev/sda4       /mnt/shared     vfat    rw,user,auto
[12:14] <MyNameIsChris> Did that work? Who saw most of that?
[12:15] <koba> ok
[12:15] <bet0x> hi all dudes
[12:15] <bet0x> :D
[12:16] <MyNameIsChris> Okay, I think I may have only sent odyssey the first line. I apoligise to everyone if I did what it looks like I did
[12:16] <snowblink> buenas bet0x
[12:16] <bet0x> hola snowblink :D
[12:16] <odyssey> MyNameIsChris, ok run sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hda in a terminal
[12:18] <Dull404> this is confusing, is the root password by default "blank" ?? :S
[12:18] <MyNameIsChris> /dev/hda: [\n]  setting using_dma to 1 (on) [\n]  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted [\n]  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[12:18] <foxpaul> hi all.
[12:18] <foxpaul> does anyhone know how i can print a large presentation, but with 4 slides on each page?
[12:19] <snowblink> foxpaul, used to do something using enscript...
[12:19] <MyNameIsChris> odyssey, Incase I forget later. Thanks for tyring to help me
[12:19] <foxpaul> snowblink: enscript?
[12:19] <snowblink> Dull404, root password is locked
[12:20] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: sudo su + type in password + hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[12:20] <Dull404> snowblink, how to i run gedit with root privileges then?
[12:20] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, tried that too
[12:20] <snowblink> foxpaul, should be available as a package...
[12:20] <resiak> Dull404: sudo gedit
[12:20] <Dull404> snowblink, tired of nano....
[12:20] <snowblink> Dull404, sudo gedit ...
[12:20] <foxpaul> snowblink: what should be?
[12:20] <snowblink> foxpaul, enscript
[12:20] <foxpaul> snowblink: can i do it with openoffice?
[12:21] <snowblink> foxpaul, IIRC I had an enscript file, which would be read before it reached the printer. I'm not sure with OO
[12:21] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: you do get a root terminal, right?
[12:21] <Dull404> snowblink, works from within a terminal, but not from gnome
[12:21] <foxpaul> its just that i'm in windoiws at the momnent, with oo.o, so i need a way of doing it with this
[12:22] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, That is correct
[12:22] <Tirno> hello
[12:22] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, I have determined that it is not an issue of permission
[12:22] <snowblink> Dull404, maybe try gksudo
[12:22] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: root should be able to handle all permissions in /dev and hdparm
[12:22] <Tirno> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticsTouchpadHowto says that I need to edit /etc/X11/XF86config-4
[12:22] <Dull404> snowblink, ah.. :) tried gksu, but no good.... will try that
[12:23] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, I thought so too
[12:23] <Tirno> to configure my synaptics touchpad
[12:23] <snowblink> foxpaul, Most windows printers seem to have a way to arrange the pages... have you checked your printer conf?
[12:23] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, hdparm is the first program to tell root no
[12:23] <MyNameIsChris> EVER
[12:23] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: hdparm /dev/hda gives you what?
[12:23] <Tirno> but I don't have this file in hoary
[12:23] <Tirno> help?
[12:24] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, just goto paste it somewhere. One sec
[12:24] <Dull404> snowblink, yup it worked, thanks... im just beeing lazy today, not using nano :)
[12:24] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, http://rafb.net/paste/results/5avqso37.html
[12:25] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: ok, hdparm can give you errors is dma is already set but this looks ok. ls -la /dev/hda
[12:25] <snowblink> Dull404, I'm much more comfortable in vim in a term
[12:25] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, judging by performance I say no
[12:26] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, brw-rw----    1 root     cdrom      3,   0 2005-04-21 18:08 /dev/hda
[12:27] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, My first indication it is not set was /proc/ide/hda/settings and I find it hard to argue with that
[12:28] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: maybe the cdrom is not capable of DMA then. Is it activated in BIOS?
[12:28] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, Yes to both
[12:28] <d> he he- I've come here with ubuntu/CDROM probs too!
[12:28] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: Crap that is wierd.
[12:28] <Tirno> anyone? I'm assuming that this /etc/X11/xf86config-4 is replaced by some other config file somewhere else
[12:28] <Tirno> but I can't find it
[12:28] <guruff> hello a quick question; cron.d is like init.d, scripts in cron.d are not executed daily or whatsoever, scripts in cron.daily/hourly... are executed daily ect, is that right ?
[12:29] <d> I've enabled DMA on my DVD-RW drive, it plays DVDs smoothly now and can burn at 8x BUT I'm only getting about 500k/s when copying data off a DVD- any ideas?
[12:29] <steved> Tirno: try /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:29] <guruff> Tirno; u use Horay or previous ?, in horay it is /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[12:30] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: Have you tried to edit /etc/hdparm.conf : /dev/hda { dma = on }
[12:30] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: ...and restart
[12:30] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, if you think that will work
[12:30] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: only solution i can think of.... to force it during boot
[12:30] <balor> MyNameIsChris: it will
[12:30] <balor> MyNameIsChris: hdparam changes are only for a session
[12:31] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, Then thankyou very much
[12:31] <balor> MyNameIsChris: editing the conf file makes them at the start of every session
[12:31] <MyNameIsChris> Any risks I should know about?
[12:31] <d> chris: doing that sorted my CDRW drive out but not the read speed of my DVD
[12:31] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: If it works:  yyour welcome. If not: errrr :-D
[12:31] <Tirno> guruff: thanks. xorg.conf is there
[12:31] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: No risks. if it is not supported just edit the file again
[12:31] <gOochi> irc://irc.irchighway.net
[12:32] <guruff> np
[12:32] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, You are not going to believe this. It is
[12:32] <jojo123> It is ok now?
[12:33] <MyNameIsChris> Well, it is set to on in the .conf
[12:33] <MyNameIsChris> Without me touching it
[12:33] <jojo123> MyNameIsChris: eh, ok....?
[12:34] <MyNameIsChris> jojo123, I will work it out somehow. Thanks for everything. Same thanks to balor and snowblink
[12:36] <ircbot_> i need to sleep
[12:36] <ircbot_> but i'm having so much fun here
[12:37] <Cym> heh i finally got postfix to relay to gmail using ssl wrappers with a little help from stunnel :)
[12:37] <ircbot_> woohoo and now all my sounds seem to work together
[12:37] <ircbot_> happy
[12:40] <Dull404> Is there a way to invoke deborphan/foster with apt-get remove ? ... because apt-get remove, is not working 100%
[12:42] <satya> hello
[12:43] <Dull404> or can synaptic remove packages? or aptitude . or whatever ?
[12:44] <satya> can i have something about ubuntu linux about how to setup
[12:44] <satya> can any one help me
[12:44] <Emeterio> Can anyone tell me if the fetchmail daemon is running by default in Hoary?
[12:45] <snader> Emeterio: don't think so; do "ps aux | grep fetchmail" to find out if it's running
[12:45] <Burgundavia> Emeterio, no
[12:45] <Burgundavia> Emeterio, afaik
[12:46] <satya> i have installed ubuntu linux4.1
[12:46] <Burgundavia> samiam, what do you need help with>
[12:47] <satya> after instalattion it has connected to internet to download the updates
[12:47] <Burgundavia> ok
[12:47] <Burgundavia> that is good
[12:47] <satya> but since 4-5 hours it has connected
[12:47] <Emeterio> 1000     17029  0.0  0.0   3032   728 pts/1    R+   12:46   0:00 grep fetchmail
[12:48] <Emeterio> Does this mean it's running?
[12:48] <Burgundavia> Emeterio, that is your grep command looking for it
[12:48] <ircbot_> night all
[12:48] <Emeterio> Ah....oops. sorry
[12:48] <Dull404> Emeterio, killall fetchmail
[12:48] <snader> :-)
[12:48] <Burgundavia> corey     9946  0.0  0.0   1996   596 ?        S    01:45   0:00 esd
[12:48] <Burgundavia> corey    11900  0.0  0.0   3032   716 pts/1    S+   03:48   0:00 grep esd
[12:48] <Burgundavia> finds the thing I grepped for and grep command
[12:48] <Emeterio> fetchmail: no process killed
[12:48] <Burgundavia> so fetchmail isn't running
[12:49] <Dull404> Emeterio, its not running. otherwise it would say "permission denied" or something... but if you sudo killall.... you would kill it :D
[12:49] <Nermal> pgrep -l fetchmail :P
[12:50] <Dull404> i thoight apt-get had cow powers...
[12:50] <Dull404> thought
[12:51] <Emeterio> okay, it's not runing. I know how to get fetchmail to run in daemon mode as a normal user, but how do I get it to run as root as when the machine starts?
[12:51] <Emeterio> ...or as a service.
[12:52] <Dull404> Emeterio, add it in "the-config-file-wich-runns-your-daemons" ... im new to ubuntu so i dont know which one
[12:52] <Emeterio> I'm new to ubuntu as well. I used mandrake before, and that was just a matter of urpmi fetchmailrd...
[12:53] <Dull404> Emeterio, ubuntuguide.org ... or grep some files and look for ie.. "cron"
[12:53] <membreya> satya: are you using DHCP?
[12:54] <satya> no
[12:54] <satya> i am not using dhcp
[12:54] <satya> membreya
[12:54] <membreya> satya: press alt+f2...logon...and type ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500 if you're using ethernet
[12:55] <Dull404> Burgundavia, what do u you use for removing packages? is there a way to pipe apt-get remove, to deborphan/foster ?
[12:55] <satya> actually i did not know anything about linux
[12:55] <Burgundavia> Dull404, hmm? what do you want to do?
[12:56] <satya> so can i use linux or not
[12:56] <Dull404> Burgundavia, remove a application. but apt-get remove, leaves some files left behind. it only removes the meta packages...
[12:56] <Dull404> an app...
[12:57] <Burgundavia> Dull404, there is acomand to remove the config files as well, but I don't know the command-line equiv
[12:57] <satya> ok membreya how much time it will take to complete
[12:57] <Dull404> Burgundavia, no not config files, i mean large library files
[12:57] <membreya> satya: it should only take about 5 mins to update
[12:58] <Dull404> Burgundavia, i think config files, is option --purge
[12:58] <satya> the old version that is 4.1 will also take 5 mins
[12:58] <satya> actually here the internet connection is very slow that is 30-50kbps
[12:59] <goo> Hm, is it not possible for gaim to use a proxy for msn traffic?
[12:59] <Burgundavia> Dull404, mm, no idea
[12:59] <goo> hah. of course it can
[12:59] <Dull404> Burgundavia, try to install something, fairly big.. wich requires som extra libs. then immediately try to remove it
[01:00] <Burgundavia> Dull404, hmm I see that, it leaves the libs behind. I don't think there is a way to do it, but I wish their was
[01:01] <Dull404> Burgundavia, someone told me about deborphan, and debfoster.... tried deborphan, but it only finds half of the libs left behind
[01:01] <Burgundavia> Dull404, ah
[01:02] <Rocha> Hello
[01:02] <Rocha> How can I find the printers in my network?
[01:03] <Rocha> I know it uses smb
[01:03] <Rocha> But that's all I know
[01:04] <Rocha> Hmm, I know the host that is used in windows
[01:05] <Rocha> Is there a way to detect it?
[01:05] <satya> membreya r u there?
[01:05] <membreya> i am satya
[01:05] <satya> can you pls tell me what to download so that i could install directly
[01:05] <satya> actully the connection is slow here
[01:06] <membreya> im not that knowledgable sorry satya :(
[01:06] <satya> membreya do u belong to ubuntu linux
[01:06] <membreya> just a user
[01:06] <satya> oh thanks alot
[01:07] <satya> can u tell me which will be better windows and linux
[01:07] <Nermal> Rocha, the network browser might
[01:07] <Nermal> or the add printer wizard suprisingly
[01:08] <satya> membreya can u tell me which will be better windows and linux
[01:08] <peterray> Hi all
[01:08] <Nermal> satya, windows AND linux ?
[01:08] <Rocha> Nermal, i tried the add printer wizard but it doesn't detect the printer
[01:08] <Nermal> thats a stupid question
[01:08] <membreya> satya: personally i prefer linux, but thats because i use an amd64
[01:08] <membreya> hey Nermal :) cute kitty u
[01:08] <Nermal> Rocha, well tell it the name of the SMB computer and printer
[01:08] <Rocha> I did that
[01:08] <xfSx> i think linux is harder to setup, but more customisable for a power-useer
[01:08] <Nermal> Rocha, hmm :|
[01:08] <mjr> satya, that invariably depends on your goals and values. For me, Linux.
[01:09] <satya> then is it better than microsoft
[01:09] <Nermal> satya, stop trolling
[01:09] <Nermal> go buy a mac
[01:09] <Nermal> best of both worlds
[01:09] <whiteknight> hehe a mac with ppc ubuntu on it?
[01:09] <Nermal> now you're talking :D
[01:10] <peterray> I have a nice question for you folks!
[01:10] <whiteknight> thats why i do it :D
[01:10] <Rocha> Nermal, the wizard fills the password field with a password (i don't know why and what password)
[01:10] <Nermal> hmmm..
[01:10] <peterray> Why my sendmail.cf was rewrite on boot?
[01:10] <Nermal> it's probably autogenerated
[01:11] <Nermal> like exim config is from the templates
[01:11] <XTCboarder> has anybody been able to run cocoa on a debian box?
[01:11] <XTCboarder> i mean on a darwin....
[01:11] <XTCboarder> so we can all mac-up....
[01:12] <peterray> How I can disable it?
[01:13] <Rocha> Nermal, how can I know the IP address of the printer?
[01:13] <Rocha> (in windows)
[01:13] <peterray> I need that my configuration isn't ovverride
[01:13] <Nermal> well.. the printer won't have one.. its talking through a windows box
[01:13] <membreya> Rocha: is it shared with samba?
[01:13] <membreya> if so do a smbtree
[01:13] <Nermal> if it's directly on the network then connect to the printer
[01:13] <Manel> hello
[01:13] <Nermal> mmm.. ipp
[01:13] <membreya> Nermal: it could have a print server :P
[01:14] <Nermal> membreya, language :P
[01:14] <membreya> :|
[01:14] <xfSx> i do smbtree and get sensible results, yet i can't access anything in computer->network
[01:14] <xfSx> i lie it's ok now sorry
[01:14] <membreya> xfSx: trust what smbtree says..don't trust a stupid gui :P
[01:14] <Saint33> hi folks...
[01:15] <gules> hi all
[01:15] <Rocha> membreya, yes
[01:15] <Saint33> Is their any way at all to be able to readn & write to an NTFS partition ???
[01:15] <membreya> no offence to the developers
[01:15] <membreya> Saint33: ...yes..but experimental
[01:15] <peterray> Nermal, How I can disable it?
[01:15] <Saint33> membreya: I'll take it... :)
[01:16] <pixil9> http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#installsamba
[01:16] <pixil9> How do you enable it?
[01:16] <Manel> there is algun companion who speak Spanish and me of the direction to unload kubuntu
[01:16] <flipy> Manel, el vols desinstalar?
[01:17] <flipy> any good IDE to edit and debug php?
[01:17] <Manel> no el vui instala perque el sarge no en detecta la eth
[01:18] <Rocha> membreya, thanks, smbtree worked but i think the printer is down
[01:18] <flipy> Manel, nomes has de descarregar-te el cd del hoary (5.04) i la instalacio comena sola
[01:18] <Saint33> membreya: what do I have to download to be able to write ntfs
[01:18] <xfSx> writing to ntfs can't be done, only reading, google it
[01:18] <Manel> flipy per a on la puc baixa
[01:19] <Manel> la derea sius palu
[01:19] <flipy> Manel, www.ubuntulinux.org
[01:19] <Manel> plau
[01:19] <Manel> okis gracies
[01:19] <membreya> Saint33: sorry..watching law and order :P ..you can either recompile the kernel with support or use another program..will get you a link
[01:19] <membreya> hang on mate
[01:20] <Saint33> thanks :) much appreciated
[01:20] <membreya> Saint33: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[01:20] <Saint33> thx
[01:21] <scarsedida> i need help with sound... i had installed 5.04 here at school and all works fine ... but the sound works only for the system ( login...logout sounds) and not for the applications ( eg tuxpaint, tuxracer...)...any tips... (sorry for my bad english...)
[01:21] <Manel> my PC is AMD 64 is much thing or better than it installs noncAmd to me 64 as it passes with Debian sarge
[01:22] <flipy> Manel, instala la versio d'amd64,,,,,+
[01:22] <johan2> Hello everybody are linux newbe and can't enabel english spelling check in Gaim
[01:22] <Manel> va be
[01:22] <xfSx> scarese, hmm esound (esd) might need setting as the device driver in the program preferences?
[01:22] <Manel> hi ni ha bastan coses per baixa
[01:22] <flipy> johan, try looking for myspell-en, ispell-en, wenglish, and language-support-en
[01:22] <Manel> perque el nvu el nesesito i amb sarge no hiera
[01:22] <johan2> was trying to solve this problem yesterday night but can't do it:(
[01:23] <flipy> Manel, hi ha 2 cd per arquitectura, el livecd i linstalador, descarregat el instalador
[01:23] <membreya> scarsedida: what type of soundcard?
[01:23] <Manel> estic a la web buscan haviam si el trobo
[01:23] <scarsedida> membreya, /exec lspci
[01:23] <gahan> is it possible to upgrade sid->ubuntu?
[01:23] <membreya> scarsedida: im trying to help you with your sound problem :P
[01:23] <johan2> I am swedish a Norwedian have the same problem  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7891.html
[01:24] <Manel> en posare el Cd que tinc i despres instalare el kde
[01:24] <mjr> gahan, it is physically mostly possible; you might have to do some handjobs and it's not supported, though
[01:24] <flipy> Manel, http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-amd64.iso
[01:24] <gahan> i need new sources.list then
[01:24] <johan2> the ubuntu forum sucks>:o
[01:24] <eruin> hmm
[01:24] <Manel> okis meri companys gracies
[01:24] <eruin> aspell does norwegian just fine here
[01:25] <flipy> johan, erm... try to do a more extensive search...
[01:25] <scarsedida> membreya, it works for the system... but not for all the apps...
[01:25] <gahan> hoary is the current release?
[01:25] <Dull404> my spell check worked by default.. after a clean ubuntu hoary install
[01:25] <membreya> scarsedida: you're still not answering my question
[01:25] <eruin> gahan: yes
[01:25] <membreya> gahan: hoary is the latest stable
[01:25] <membreya> the latest version is breezy
[01:25] <johan2> have googel it for hours also find this if it helps? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4735.html
[01:25] <membreya> and DAMN there's a few error messages at boot with it :P
[01:26] <eruin> I get keymap, eth0 errors on booting breezy ;)
[01:26] <membreya> eruin: yup :D
[01:26] <eruin> but it chugs along like a dream
[01:26] <eruin> :D
[01:26] <membreya> eruin: i just wish they would fix the freaking nvidia-glx bug!
[01:26] <johan2> I am newbe so it is quit dificult for me to understand
[01:26] <eruin> membreya: oh.. I use the official installerthing
[01:26] <eruin> ;p
[01:27] <membreya> eruin: ...im referring to nvidia-glx locking when you use renderaccel
[01:27] <membreya> seems to only affect the lower end cards
[01:27] <scarsedida> membreya, 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:27] <PacoBCN> I've decided I'll upgrade to breezy for my bday in July and not before, too scared!
[01:27] <PacoBCN> :D
[01:27] <eruin> mohaha
[01:27] <eruin> PacoBCN: if that's july 20th, we can be birthdaypals!
[01:27] <eruin> haha
[01:27] <gahan> hoary got xorg?
[01:27] <eruin> yes
[01:27] <eruin> 6.8.2
[01:28] <membreya> scarsedida: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/.asoundrc copy and paste that text to a file called .asoundrc in your home directory
[01:28] <membreya> PacoBCN: friggin awesome month to be born in :D
[01:28] <PacoBCN> eruin, nop, sorry, 7th, I was born 7-7-77, easy to remember
[01:28] <membreya> 25/07 for me :D
[01:28] <eruin> bugger all
[01:28] <membreya> old fart PacoBCN :P
[01:28] <gahan> i hope nvidia is xorg compatibile 'cause im gonna get dualview to work
[01:28] <johan2>  Dull404: I have swedish spelling sugesstions by defult but can't change to English
[01:28] <gahan> :\
[01:28] <membreya> 25/07/1979
[01:28] <PacoBCN> membreya, yeah!
[01:28] <PacoBCN> :D
[01:28] <eruin> 20-7-83
[01:28] <scarsedida> membreya, ok...thnx ...i do it now..
[01:28] <membreya> damn whipper snapper :P
[01:29] <eruin> membreya: you missed 24/7 by a day, aww ;)
[01:29] <Manel> that version of kernel takes ubuntu amd 64
[01:29] <membreya> eruin: i take it the extra step :P 25 hours a day :D
[01:29] <eruin> haha
[01:29] <johan2> working in evolution, abyword open ofice and so on...
[01:29] <St0n3-C0l> Back on GNOME
[01:29] <St0n3-C0l> Nermal: me too ;)
[01:29] <membreya> speaking of oo.o...anyone know when support for oo.o2 will be listed for amd64?
[01:30] <johan2> sorry for the bad spelling;)
[01:30] <membreya> breezy here too..you folks enjoying the mapping of eth0 being unreliable and the keymap errors? :P
[01:30] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[01:31] <gules> cya
[01:31] <Dull404> johan2, oh.. yeah me too :) just change language then
[01:31] <eruin> membreya: yeah, loving those, but aspell-buggage making bluefish useless on the other hand...
[01:32] <xfSx> hey sorry but how do i setup samba so no password is required to axs shares?
[01:32] <membreya> aspell bug? :|
[01:32] <membreya> aspell works fine for me in kopete and kmail
[01:32] <goo> Hm, Ubuntu should have the possibility of installing over ssh like Gentoo has - fire up sshd, log inn and fire up debootstrap or whatnot.
[01:32] <scarsedida> membreya, done... have i to restart something  to make it works?
[01:32] <goo> Now I have to run back and forth
[01:32] <St0n3-C0l> smbpasswd ?
[01:32] <gahan> xfSx: security=share and gues ok = yes might help you
[01:32] <membreya> scarsedida: you might want to do a /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[01:32] <eruin> membreya: got some unresolved symbol trash.. I've just downgraded to 0.50 for the time being ;-p
[01:32] <gahan> s/gues/guest/
[01:33] <scarsedida> membreya, thnx...
[01:33] <xfSx> gahan cool lemme give that a shot
[01:33] <membreya> dont thank me till the problem is fixed
[01:34] <Saint33> cya folks...
[01:34] <xfSx> hmm my ubu shows yupdates to be installed yet says they can't be auth'd?
[01:35] <membreya> xfSx: it probably means you are using a non-standard repo
[01:35] <johan2> membreya: Can you run kopete under gnome ?
[01:36] <Dull404> yeah with kde libs
[01:36] <membreya> johan2: i use kubuntu :) gnome makes me kry
[01:36] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[01:36] <membreya> so who else here is looking forward to luminocity? :D
[01:36] <Nermal> :(
[01:37] <St0n3-C0l> Both are okay but Gnome 2.10 is lacking in menu editor and eye-candy
[01:37] <johan2>  johan2: me too but am a design freek and KDE is uggly:-/
[01:37] <St0n3-C0l> eye candy (gdesklets)
[01:37] <membreya> for those that dont know luminocity....
[01:37] <membreya> http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots
[01:37] <membreya> johan2: ...take that back!
[01:38] <membreya> to offer a comparison..gnome is south park...kde is final fantasy the movie :D
[01:38] <Dull404> Gnome looks better :)
[01:38] <membreya> BAH
[01:39] <johan2> St0n3-C0l: you say I can run kopete under Gnome?
[01:39] <St0n3-C0l> no
[01:39] <St0n3-C0l> I didnt
[01:40] <Dull404> johan2, with kde libs yes
[01:40] <St0n3-C0l> But you an
[01:40] <St0n3-C0l> can*
[01:40] <Dull404> but kopete is ugly
[01:40] <membreya> again Dull404 ....die
[01:40] <membreya> :P
[01:40] <St0n3-C0l> Dull404: true :P
[01:40] <Dull404> lol
[01:40] <St0n3-C0l> haha
[01:40] <St0n3-C0l> membreya: Thats true
[01:41] <membreya> i love kopete...especially since it does bubbles when you get a message :D
[01:41] <eruin> "bubbles" ?
[01:41] <St0n3-C0l> l0ll
[01:41] <Dull404> membreya, Gaim does that too, but the yellow dude is shaking instead
[01:41] <membreya> yes eruin :P
[01:41] <membreya> Dull404: i never had luck with that gaim theme :)
[01:41] <eruin> I know gaim lacks in alot of areas, but I still can't get myself to use any other client
[01:41] <membreya> that and I want webcam support
[01:41] <membreya> :D
[01:41] <membreya> if only for receiving
[01:42] <scarsedida> membreya, seems not workin still... :(
[01:42] <eruin> I want super-berfancy gaim popups when people send me messages
[01:42] <Quinn_Storm> eruin: you mean like gaim-guifications?
[01:43] <johan2>  eruin: I realy like Gaim interface, only problem is this spelling problem.
[01:43] <St0n3-C0l> Quinn_Storm: They're okay ;)
[01:44] <membreya> scarsedida: i can only recommend posting to the mailing list
[01:44] <Dull404> johan2 what's wrong with swedish then? ;))
[01:44] <membreya> gaim-guifications..never worked for me
[01:44] <johan2> Is it not other non English speeking here?
[01:44] <scarsedida> membreya, ok...
[01:44] <membreya> eruin: how did you get that accent above uber? :P
[01:44] <Dull404> johan2 bajsklutt
[01:44] <erol> help me about webm'n ' cant log'n
[01:45] <johan2> Dull404: I can already spell in swedish:)
[01:45] <St0n3-C0l> Gnome VS KDE - Reviews please | I'll be neutral :P
[01:45] <Dull404> johan2 kan jag med, anvnder inte ens stavnings kontrollen....
[01:45] <erol> help me about webmin i cant login
[01:45] <membreya> St0n3-C0l: ....gnome ..plain but stable...kde ...tweakable, slightly unstable....but damnit it lets you edit the menus :P
[01:46] <membreya> and kde is great eye candy :D
[01:46] <Choubaka> hah!
[01:46] <Choubaka> XFCE beats all those.
[01:46] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[01:46] <membreya> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/snapshot2.png
[01:46] <St0n3-C0l> tweakable...now thats something Newbies will hate to do :P
[01:46] <Choubaka> menu editing, lightweight, cute, stable...
[01:46] <Nermal> St0n3-C0l, try both, choose
[01:46] <xfSx> there's no way to edit gnome menus?
[01:46] <Choubaka> There is
[01:47] <Choubaka> with a third-party tools
[01:47] <Choubaka> -s
[01:47] <Quinn_Storm> ewww, you use keramik? I at least use plastik...
[01:47] <membreya> :P
[01:47] <St0n3-C0l> Nermal: haha...i've both atm :P
[01:47] <resiak> membreya: g  !
[01:47] <Nermal> St0n3-C0l, so why ask us to choose for you?
[01:47] <Dull404> xfSx, i red something about it in www.ubuntuguide.org ... in section.. gnome.. menu editing or something
[01:47] <membreya> aaaah
[01:47] <xfSx> cool thanks
[01:47] <membreya> fonts...bad!
[01:47] <membreya> evil keraminc!
[01:47] <Nermal> urrgh
[01:48] <Choubaka> Nermal: ok. wtf language was that.
[01:48] <erol> anybody help whats wrong
[01:48] <Choubaka> err
[01:48] <St0n3-C0l> Nermal: I didin't asked...I said give ur reviews and I'll be neutral
[01:48] <no0tic> when running on batteries, scaling governor doesn't switch to powersave...
[01:48] <Choubaka> resiak:
[01:48] <Choubaka> :P
[01:48] <Nermal> :P
[01:48] <johan2> Dull404: okej. Mitt problem r att jag stavar illa bde p svenska och engelska, fast nr det gller engelskan s MSTE jag ha stavningshjlp fr att hnga med hr!!
[01:48] <membreya> damnit, i hate keramic!!!
[01:49] <Nermal> why do people ask for gnome / kde reviews when there are so many on the net
[01:49] <Dull404> johan2, for xchat or gaim? hold on, let me find it for you ;)
[01:49] <St0n3-C0l> membreya: Wh0z in the background ;)
[01:49] <membreya> St0n3-C0l: elisha cuthbert :D
[01:50] <membreya> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/ecuthb1012rg.jpg3
[01:50] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[01:50] <membreya> http://members.optusnet.com.au/~membreya/ecuthb1012rg.jpg even!
[01:50] <St0n3-C0l> membreya: Take a loot at RAM usage
[01:50] <St0n3-C0l> look*
[01:50] <johan2> Dull404: Gami:)
[01:50] <St0n3-C0l> 470 of 496MB
[01:50] <membreya> and? :D
[01:50] <membreya> 900mb of swap :D
[01:50] <johan2> Dull404: Did you see the link I past erlier?
[01:51] <Dull404> johan2, nope
[01:51] <St0n3-C0l> membreya: LOL
[01:51] <Nermal> membreya, 900 of swap free ?
[01:51] <johan2> Dull404:  from the user from norway?
[01:52] <membreya> Nermal: 900 mb swap space...always about 850 - 900 free :D
[01:52] <Quinn_Storm> mine using kde...mem: 242MB used, 52% free (512MB) but that counts cache as free, and swap:0% used of ~1GB
[01:53] <Nermal> membreya, good
[01:53] <St0n3-C0l> mine is 142 out of 242mb and 69mb swap out of 511mb
[01:53] <St0n3-C0l> using gnome atm
[01:53] <] BreliC[> anyone here running Ubuntu and then installed the kde-dektop?
[01:53] <Dull404> johan2, 1: install aspell-us
[01:53] <St0n3-C0l> and the usage with same ram goes to 230-240 when I use KDE
[01:53] <] BreliC[> people on #kubuntu aren't talking
[01:53] <Nermal> Mem:   1036200k total,  1021816k used,    14384k free,    46308k buffers
[01:53] <Nermal> Swap:  1148636k total,   158272k used,   990364k free,   433032k cached
[01:53] <johan2> Dull404:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7891.html
[01:53] <Nermal> hmm :|
[01:53] <Nermal> vmware ;)
[01:54] <Choubaka> hm :|
[01:54] <Dull404> johan2, oops.. aspell-en, har du den?
[01:54] <SiRrUs> hello guys
[01:54] <Phreakazoid> my "free" command says something like that, yet the GNOME system monitor says only 300mb is used?
[01:54] <Phreakazoid> lol
[01:54] <Choubaka> Dull404: That rhy,ed :)
[01:54] <Dull404> johan2, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4735.html
[01:55] <membreya> St0n3-C0l: whats the lesson? get more ram :D
[01:55] <Choubaka> swap is completely useless IMO. :)
[01:55] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[01:55] <St0n3-C0l> u learn a lesson :P
[01:55] <Choubaka> at least with 512 MB or more ram
[01:55] <xfSx> why do i only get 800mb ram assigned to me (as seen when i type free), yet my machine has 2gb ram..
[01:55] <thenuke> in your case I would say
[01:56] <St0n3-C0l> GNOME utilize less ram
[01:56] <eruin> whats the point in ram if all of it isn't used?
[01:56] <Nermal> Choubaka, surely my ram posting proves otherwise
[01:56] <eruin> it gets freed up as other apps need it
[01:56] <Phreakazoid> xfSx, try sudo apt-get install linux-686
[01:56] <Phreakazoid> or whatever your architecture
[01:56] <Phreakazoid> and then reboot
[01:56] <Choubaka> Nermal: no, it doesn't.
[01:56] <xfSx> what will that do?
[01:56] <Phreakazoid> for some strange reason the 386 kernels aren't compiled with high memory support
[01:56] <csj> hi,all I read about Ubuntu "Once a stable version is released, no new software updates are accepted", is that mean hoary is now dont updated to the newest version packages?
[01:56] <Choubaka> You're just running some freaky applications
[01:56] <Nermal> Choubaka, or would I just have less cached ?
[01:56] <St0n3-C0l> membreya: Send me money thru Western Union...and i'll :P
[01:56] <goldfish> I'm using 512mb of ram, and the swap monitor has been at 0mb used since i started using linux. It has never once been used.
[01:56] <xfSx> weird
[01:56] <Choubaka> Nermal: yeah.
[01:57] <Phreakazoid> goldfish, I have 1GB of ram, and my swap has 2.8mb used lol
[01:57] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[01:57] <St0n3-C0l> goldfish: haha
[01:57] <goldfish> Phreakazoid: haha
[01:57] <membreya> xfSx: you need to compile your kernel with high memory support
[01:57] <johan2> Dull404:  aspell-en is installed
[01:57] <goldfish> Weird.
[01:57] <xfSx> ok cool
[01:57] <Dull404> johan2, ok wait...
[01:57] <goldfish> Is swap just used when all of your ram is being used?
[01:57] <Nermal> not quite
[01:57] <goldfish> oh right
[01:57] <Choubaka> eek
[01:58] <Choubaka> I have 300MB of free ram
[01:58] <Nermal> :D
[01:58] <Nermal> s/free/wasted :)
[01:58] <Choubaka> I just booted though.
[01:58] <Phreakazoid> in Windows, programs get swapped out when they aren't visible on screen, even if you have 900MB of free RAM still
[01:58] <Phreakazoid> lol
[01:58] <Nermal> Phreakazoid, aye... .
[01:58] <Choubaka> hah
[01:58] <membreya> otherwise it only recognises 896 mb
[01:58] <Choubaka> no wonder it sucks.
[01:58] <Nermal> xfSx, install the ubuntu i686 kernel
[01:59] <Nermal> that has highmem support
[01:59] <Phreakazoid> the k7 kernel has it too
[01:59] <Phreakazoid> for if you use an AMD AthlonXP
[01:59] <Nermal> yah.. i386 kernel doesn't
[01:59] <bob2> it's usually not worth enabling HIGHMEM for 1gb of ram
[01:59] <xfSx> i686 soundsd good
[01:59] <bob2> or so I hear
[01:59] <xfSx> i have 2gb in total
[01:59] <] BreliC[> well, literally nobody is talking on #kubuntu... maybe someone here can help me
[01:59] <Choubaka> hm
[01:59] <Nermal> bob2, nope.. I spoke to alan cox at our last lug meeting,. it kicks in above 896
[01:59] <membreya> bob2: he has 2gb :)
[01:59] <Choubaka> the ck patch has 1Gb lowmem support
[01:59] <bob2> Nermal: oh, I know
[01:59] <Nermal> :)
[01:59] <] BreliC[> i use gnome anyway, but have the kde-desktop installed..  i just don't like it when supposed updates error out
[01:59] <bob2> Nermal: but it has a speed penalty
[01:59] <Choubaka> so you might want to try compiling your own with that patch
[01:59] <Nermal> ah
[02:00] <bob2> Nermal: so, someone told me the speed penalty made it not worthwhile at only 1gb
[02:00] <] BreliC[> here's the error when updating the kdelibs-data: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4-0x1.6a7820000005ap-1363.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf
[02:00] <Nermal> interesting
[02:00] <bob2> tho, now I look, the -686 kernels have it enabled anyway
[02:00] <Nermal> ] BreliC[, might have to force that deb through dpkg :|
[02:00] <] BreliC[> Nermal, oh yeah?  will it cause problems?
[02:01] <Phreakazoid> bob2, I have never noticed a difference in speed between HIGHMEM and not HIGHMEM
[02:01] <bob2> Phreakazoid: hm, I've never tried
[02:01] <bob2> I guess the person who toldme that was wron
[02:01] <bob2> g
[02:01] <csj> is any ubuntu official packages can keep update with debian sid? I use ubuntu backport but still older than it.
[02:01] <Dull404> johan2, man aspell, kolla dr
[02:02] <bob2> csj: breezy should stay up to date with sid
[02:02] <Phreakazoid> it could just be such a small difference that it isn't noticeable
[02:02] <Phreakazoid> lol
[02:02] <csj> so that I cant use some debian package any more cause of version conflict
[02:02] <bob2> until freeze, anyway
[02:02] <csj> bob2, oh, thanks you a lot.
[02:03] <Choubaka> csj: what's the point in using ubuntu if you want to track sid? :p
[02:03] <Choubaka> sid'll break things.
[02:03] <Choubaka> and so will hoary.
[02:03] <johan2>  Dull404: libgtkspell vad r det ? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4735.html
[02:03] <Choubaka> big time.
[02:03] <] BreliC[> Nermal, so would dpkg --force-overwrite be the safest bet?
[02:04] <Dull404> johan2, det r lib filen till aspell
[02:04] <bob2> Choubaka: hoary's the current stable release :)
[02:04] <Dull404> johan2, ls "man aspell" du kan ndra dictionary file dr...
[02:04] <Choubaka> err
[02:04] <Dull404> tror jag...
[02:04] <csj> Choubaka: I want to use some 3-part deb packages but it needs the newest dependencies.
[02:04] <Choubaka> bob2: trye
[02:04] <johan2> Dull404: Du skrev " johan2, man aspell, kolla dr " vad menar du?
[02:04] <csj> like  beep-media-player mac plugin.
[02:04] <bob2> "trye"?
[02:04] <Choubaka> I was talking about breezy, of course
[02:04] <bob2> ah
[02:04] <Choubaka> true
[02:04] <Dull404> johan2, jag menade "man aspell"
[02:05] <bob2> ahh
[02:05] <johan2> Dull404: manualen fr aspell?
[02:05] <Dull404> johan2, start a terminal window, and type "man aspell"
[02:05] <Choubaka> Heh :p
[02:05] <Dull404> johan2, yes
[02:05] <Dull404> johan2, "man" is your best friend ;)
[02:06] <Choubaka> Swedish -_-
[02:06] <Choubaka> I'd have commented something on that man thing but I forgot the words.
[02:08] <Dull404> >man please_your_woman
[02:08] <johan2> Dull404: Is it realy have to do with aspell don't you think it is a problem with Gaim?
[02:09] <Quinn_Storm> http://metascape.afraid.org:13666/~quinn/xinerama.jpg
[02:09] <Dull404> johan2, nope, aspell works on top of gaim
[02:09] <Dull404> johan2, aspell is the spell checker for gaim
[02:09] <johan2> Dull404: but the dictionary works in Aby word for example
[02:10] <Dull404> johan2, AbiWord uses Ispell, not aspell... i think.. different spelling engine
[02:10] <Choubaka> aspell and ispell don't work anyway  :P
[02:10] <Choubaka> They fuck up with languages like Finnish
[02:11] <St0n3-C0l> Quinn_Storm: LOL whoz that :P
[02:11] <Quinn_Storm> St0n3-C0l: just a pin-up model
[02:11] <snader> yuck
[02:11] <Choubaka> Tell her she just brutally damaged my eyes :|
[02:11] <Quinn_Storm> wtf?
[02:11] <Quinn_Storm> she's very attractive
[02:11] <Amaranth> what did i miss?
[02:11] <St0n3-C0l> really ?
[02:11] <johan2> Dull404: Found this:OpenOffice	(myspell)
[02:11] <johan2> > > - Evolution (gnome-spell -> aspell)
[02:11] <johan2> > > - Mozilla (myspell)
[02:11] <johan2> > > - Abiword (gnome-spell -> aspell)
[02:11] <johan2> >> Gaim (libgtkspell -> aspell)
[02:12] <St0n3-C0l> then your Choice is really bad :P
[02:12] <Dull404> johan2, oh.. .hm.... :S kfuc
[02:12] <Dull404> Quinn_Storm, dont like fat girls either
[02:13] <St0n3-C0l> Amaranth: when ur new version will come ?
[02:13] <St0n3-C0l> I think that will solve my prob
[02:13] <Nostromo^> how do i upgrade from hoary preview to the official hoary? or is it done automatically? (i simply keep my system updated for now with the taskbar tool)
[02:13] <Choubaka> yeah
[02:13] <Burgundavia> Nostromo^, it is done automatically
[02:13] <johan2> Dull404:   libgtkspell?   aspell? what is this Im a newbe and don't know that this is?
[02:13] <Nostromo^> alrighty, thanks.
[02:14] <Choubaka> actually, if you've been upgrading lately, you should be running a stable hoary at the very moment .)
[02:14] <Dull404> johan2, aspell is a program... wich uses a library called libgtkspell ... its like a .dll file in windows..... kind of
[02:14] <Nostromo^> also, where is the 'proper' place to get mplayer from? when im using marillat's amd64 packages for some odd reason it fails to work with -ao alsa.. only -ao oss..
[02:14] <mute[] > johan2, it is au dictionnary
[02:15] <Dull404> Nostromo^, build it yourself?
[02:15] <mhale> hi all
[02:15] <Dull404> mplayerhq.hu
[02:15] <Nostromo^> Dull404, nope. just apt-getted the amd64 builds.
[02:15] <Upayavira> I've just done 'free', and it has shown me 885Mb total ram, when I've got 2Gb of RAM. Any ideas?
[02:15] <Choubaka> Nostromo^: use -ao sdl :p
[02:15] <Dull404> Nostromo^, ok, than its "proper" then ;)
[02:15] <Choubaka> -ao alsa is buggy anyway as far as I know
[02:15] <Nostromo^> Choubaka, what's wrong with using alsa directly?
[02:15] <Nostromo^> Dull404, what packages are you using?
[02:16] <Choubaka> Nostromo^: Using it is discouraged in the mplayer manual
[02:16] <Dull404> Nostromo^, hold on...
[02:16] <Choubaka> last time I checked at least.
[02:16] <Nostromo^> Choubaka, really? i wonder what's the reason for that discouragement. seems perfectly logical to me to use alsa..
[02:16] <johan2> Choubaka: sorry I didn't see your message
[02:17] <mhale> quick question: i have a laptop running ubuntu, and the default install runs raid and lvm stuff when the machine boots up. is it possible to tell the installer to not put them in?
[02:17] <Dull404> Nostromo^, mplayer 586 or 386 ... i dont have a 64bit processor
[02:17] <Choubaka> Nostromo^: They say in the manual that it's buggy.
[02:18] <Choubaka> and indeed *I* have noticed latencies using the alsa driver.
[02:18] <Moe|Joe|c> hi
[02:19] <Nostromo^> Choubaka, From my limited knowledge of the linux sound system, im pretty sure that using SDL generally means using alsa anyways.
[02:19] <Choubaka> Nostromo^: yeah.
[02:19] <Nostromo^> just like -ao oss uses alsa.
[02:19] <Moe|Joe|c> got problem with Ubuntu Hoary on my laptop
[02:19] <Choubaka> But they say mplayer's alsa driver is buggy
[02:19] <Nostromo^> Choubaka, so what you're saying makes little sense. it just means that mplayer may be alsa-buggy, not alsa itself.
[02:19] <Nostromo^> :)
[02:19] <Choubaka> while the sdl driver isn't
[02:19] <Choubaka> Nostromo^: That's what I'm telling you. :p
[02:19] <Moe|Joe|c> can anyone help me?
[02:20] <Nostromo^> Choubaka, sorry, i assumed you were saying that the mplayer guys are saying that alsa itself is buggy :)
[02:20] <johan2> Is it a forum IRC for swedish ubuntu users?
[02:20] <Nostromo^> oh well. im trying to use sdl and it doesn't work :(
[02:20] <kent> 3 updates in Hoary today..  haha, its kde and i dont even run it, just installed it once..  :)
[02:20] <ztonzy> johan2, yes...  #ubuntu.se
[02:21] <Nostromo^> [AO SDL]  Unable to open audio: No available audio device
[02:21] <Choubaka> do you have libsdl1.2debian-alsa installed?
[02:21] <Nostromo^> does SDL need a free /dev/dsp?
[02:21] <Choubaka> no
[02:21] <Choubaka> sdl can use alsa, arts, esd, nas, jack or oss.
[02:21] <Choubaka> depending on your configuration.
[02:21] <Nostromo^> ok, so what do i apt-get to get sdl support?
[02:21] <] BreliC[> kent, i also never used it but installed kde-desktop.  anyway, the updates contain an error and don't install properly
[02:22] <] BreliC[> go figure
[02:22] <Choubaka> Nostromo^: what I said.
[02:22] <Nostromo^> ahh :)
[02:22] <Nostromo^> ok, apt-getting.. thanks :)
[02:22] <Nostromo^> argh.
[02:22] <kent> ] BreliC[:  oh. strange.. i just saw them install perfectly with the update-manager..
[02:22] <ztonzy> kent, I use it with K3b  :)
[02:23] <Dull404> johan2, sudo apt-get install aspell-en, och sudo apt-get install aspell ... testa det
[02:23] <kent> ztonzy: I use graveman and gnomebaker to burn CDs.  (And also there is coaster-packages for Hoary now, though it only burns data and i have not tested it yet)
[02:23] <xfSx> damn samba keeps asking me for a password when i try access a share, and guest/nopassword doesn't work
[02:23] <] BreliC[> kent, really?  mine errored out on the kdelibs-data and some other people on #kubuntu are reporting the same problem
[02:23] <Quinn_Storm> hey, in the ubuntu default gaim...is there some reason why spell-checking seems to not be working?
[02:23] <ztonzy> kent, hmm...are they any good :P ?
[02:24] <chicken_man> how do i dual boot with windows 98 ??
[02:24] <Nostromo^> ok this is weird. ocne i killed esd that was using /dev/dsp, sdl worked.
[02:24] <Choubaka> well, of course :p
[02:24] <Choubaka> esd is a sound daemon
[02:24] <Choubaka> you can have sdl using esd too
[02:24] <kent> ztonzy: graveman works very well for me. Though i only burn data CDs and audio-cds.  I dont have a dvd-burner, so i cant test that
[02:24] <Nostromo^> Choubaka, i know, but if i installed an sdl version that uses alsa, it shouldn't matter that some legacy app is using /dev/dsp
[02:24] <ztonzy> kent, hehe me neither...but soon I Will get a DVD-RW
[02:25] <chicken_man> how do i dual boot with windows 98 need help !
[02:25] <Choubaka> Nostromo^: it does matter.
[02:25] <Dull404> K3B is great for cd/dvd burning
[02:25] <Choubaka> because by using /dev/dsp, esd locks all of alsa.
[02:25] <Choubaka> because alsa has to emulate OSS
[02:25] <Nostromo^> Choubaka, afaik, alsa will simply mix /dev/dsp along with every other channel.
[02:25] <Quinn_Storm> did they take the spell-checking out of gaim?
[02:25] <Choubaka> it won't
[02:25] <kent> ] BreliC[: One solution is to just delete the conflicting package(s). You said something about kdenetwork? Its not a great solution, but it might work. Since after that package is gone, apt will try to install the new one.. and then you should have no conflict.. i think
[02:25] <chicken_man> how do i dual boot ubuntu and windows 98 please help
[02:26] <Choubaka> esd is a sound daemon.
[02:26] <Choubaka> that is
[02:26] <Dull404> Quinn_Storm, nope mine is working... we are trying to change language
[02:26] <Choubaka> bubblegum to make you able to play sound in multiple applications at the same time
[02:26] <chicken_man> help please!
[02:26] <Quinn_Storm> Dull404: ok, which version? hoary or breezy?
[02:26] <lenovo> chicken_man:let me try.
[02:26] <Dull404> Quinn_Storm, hoary
[02:26] <Nostromo^> Choubaka, i know what is it, i just assumed that a process using /dev/dsp doesn't mean that you can't use alsa directly at the same time.
[02:26] <Quinn_Storm> Dull404: ok, I'm on breezy
[02:26] <Quinn_Storm> Dull404: if it comes to it I can just recompile gaim myself
[02:26] <chicken_man> :\
[02:27] <Markrian> Nostromo^, you can make esd use ALSA
[02:27] <ztonzy> kent, installed graveman...no where in menus...hmm ?
[02:27] <johan2>  ztonzy: I didn't belive so thanks will try the chanel
[02:27] <Choubaka> best not use esd at all
[02:27] <kent> ztonzy: tillbehr
[02:27] <lenovo> have you installed ubuntu?
[02:27] <ztonzy> johan2, :)
[02:27] <Choubaka> it causes latencies.
[02:27] <ztonzy> kent, will check
[02:27] <Choubaka> and is prone to causing instability.
[02:27] <chicken_man> im using ubuntu
[02:27] <Nostromo^> well i don't need esd anyways.
[02:27] <ztonzy> kent, ah..no icon
[02:27] <] BreliC[> kent, hmm, could work.  i guess i'll just wait and hopefully it will be fixed because others are reporting the same problem
[02:27] <Nostromo^> don't care about gnome sounds.
[02:28] <xfSx> yesh esd does cause delays when changing volume and so on
[02:28] <kent> ztonzy: if you dont mind using non-free applications you can also download nero for linux from bittorrents etc.. but i see no point in doing that since graveman etc works well.
[02:28] <kent> ztonzy: strange, I have an icon for it.. :)
[02:28] <lenovo> chicken_man:you mean you want to install win98 now?
[02:28] <ztonzy> kent, I have heard of nero yes...will not..thanks anyway
[02:28] <kent> ztonzy: perhaps I downloaded it from gravemans own homepage.. dont remember :)
[02:28] <ztonzy> kent, seems it will be updated when until log in entry next time
[02:28] <Nostromo^> so wait everyone.. i was mistaken here? open()ing /dev/dsp by some legacy process renders alsa unaccessible for alsa processes?
[02:28] <chicken_man> lenovo, i will reformat disk and reinstall windows 98 and ubuntu but i want the to dual boot
[02:28] <Choubaka> Nostromo^: yes.
[02:29] <ztonzy> kent, looks fit gnome gui a excellent...looks simple still easy
[02:29] <Choubaka> because alsa has to emulate /dev/dsp
[02:29] <Nostromo^> Choubaka, weeird. ok. thanks for the correction.
[02:29] <Nostromo^> Choubaka, we've been through that, i know :) i just assumed it emulated it and simply treated it as just one sound channel it needs to mix with the rest.
[02:29] <Choubaka> if course, with a proper sound card it'll work
[02:29] <Nostromo^> eh?
[02:29] <lenovo> chicken_man:ok, I have done it.
[02:30] <Choubaka> Nostromo^: a proper sound card will do hardware mixing
[02:30] <kent> the other application "gnomebaker" have an interface that looks a lot like nero if you like that sort of interface better. I prefer gnomebaker since that was the program I started using, so I have had no reason to try gnomebaker that much..
[02:30] <Nostromo^> Choubaka, yes i know that, but that's driver-level. alsa can do software mixing as well.
[02:30] <Choubaka> yeah
[02:30] <Choubaka> but it doesn't by default
[02:30] <Nostromo^> the question of hardware/software shouldn't matter to the simple question: can you open /dev/dsp and play other alsa sounds along with it or not.
[02:30] <chicken_man> lenovo, how do i do it ?
[02:30] <Choubaka> and the oss emulation doesn't work with the dmix plugin
[02:31] <Nostromo^> ahhhh
[02:31] <Nostromo^> NOW i gotchya :)
[02:31] <lenovo> chicken_man:first, you need del you all partition if possible, then part a partition given 98 , leave enough space give ubuntu.
[02:31] <Nostromo^> btw are there nforce4 drivers for alsa already?
[02:31] <chicken_man> lenovo, yes i know that
[02:31] <lenovo> chicken_man: do you have the install cd?
[02:31] <Nostromo^> hmm wait, nvidia has nforce4 drivers in their site anyways. i'll just use that.
[02:32] <chicken_man> lenovo, windows 98 and ubuntu "warty"
[02:32] <Nostromo^> so Choubaka, how do i see which mixer plugin is currently in use, and how do i change it to my hardware one?
[02:33] <lenovo> chicken_man:It is not problem, but I use hoary. when install grub, it can auto scan the disk, and auto add the 98 boot to the menu.lst.
[02:34] <chicken_man> lenovo, so a make a partition for windows with what mount point ? and a partition for ubuntu at what mount point ?
[02:36] <lenovo> chicken_man: you mean in ubuntu mount the windows partition? or see ubuntu partition in windows?
[02:37] <lenovo> chicken_man:mine is  windows in /dev/hda1, then ubuntu in /dev/hda2 / , /dev/hda5 swap.
[02:37] <chicken_man> lenovo, what ehhh tell me how to do it step by step or ill get lost lol
[02:37] <Quinn_Storm> yeah it looks like the breezy version of gaim 1.2.1 was built with gtkspell disabled
[02:38] <lenovo> chicken_man: where do you want to start?
[02:38] <chicken_man> lenovo, first diskformat and remove all partitions from there
[02:39] <seeker_> I need help getting my webcam to work. as far as I know there is no driver for linux (at least not an official one from the manufacturer). and when I run gnomeeting the webcam isn't recognized.
[02:39] <seeker_> I have a genius VideoCam web
[02:39] <petemc> seeker_: you need to know the chipset it uses, look ay /proc/bus/usb/devices
[02:40] <Chameleon22> what package do i need to get all the extra keys working on logitech multimedia keyboard  (elite model)
[02:40] <chicken_man> ?
[02:41] <seeker_> petemc: what am I looking for there?
[02:41] <preglow> is it possible to run breezy yet?
[02:41] <Burgundavia> Chameleon22, you can map them with the admin-->prefs->keyboard shortcuts
[02:41] <Burgundavia> preglow, yes, but not recommended
[02:41] <Dull404> preglow, what's wrong with hoary?
[02:42] <Chameleon22> Burgundavia: will try thanks
[02:42] <Quinn_Storm> preglow: yeah but with a few glitches..you'll need to pin your evolution files to the hoary versions and if you use kde, you'll have to pin vim to its hoary version
[02:42] <preglow> i want a newer gcc
[02:42] <Burgundavia> preglow, wait until mid may
[02:42] <preglow> but that's probably not in yet anyway
[02:42] <Chameleon22> Burgundavia: admin? there is no admin menu
[02:42] <Burgundavia> Chameleon22, sorry system-->prefs
[02:42] <Burgundavia> preglow, I think they are already building with 4.0
[02:42] <Dull404> preglow, build it yourself then...
[02:43] <Quinn_Storm> ah, I found out why gaim isn't compiled with spellchecking turned on...libaspell hasn't caught up with the new gcc yet
[02:43] <Quinn_Storm> and yeah a newer gcc is in, 4.0
[02:43] <Quinn_Storm> gcc version 4.0.0 20050413 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0-0pre11)
[02:43] <preglow> gcc4 final is due any moment
[02:43] <preglow> but yeah, i'll wait a bit anyway
[02:43] <Quinn_Storm> I'm running breezy (obviously)
[02:43] <Chameleon22> Burgundavia: there is no preferences under system lol
[02:43] <preglow> besides, feels strange not having fifty new upgrades every day ;)
[02:44] <Burgundavia> Chameleon22, ah, you are running hoary?
[02:44] <Chameleon22> Burgundavia: correct
[02:44] <petemc> seeker_: the chipset of your camera, which will allow to to determine what v4l driver you need
[02:45] <Burgundavia> Chameleon22, left most menu should be system with submenu of preferences
[02:45] <Chameleon22> Burgundavia: did i mention i use KUbuntu
[02:46] <Burgundavia> Chameleon22, oh, try #kubuntu
[02:46] <Burgundavia> Chameleon22, we use gnome around here
[02:46] <Chameleon22> Burgundavia: i have those guys are morons....
[02:46] <seeker_> petemc: I don't see anything like that. can you explain what I'm looking for please?
[02:46] <BurgisDaCrunkMas> Chameleon22, please don't say that, and they are your best help
[02:46] <petemc> seeker_: read a v4l linux how to, or check the wiki to see if anyones posted any guides on webcams
[02:47] <Chameleon22> Burgundavia: well that channel handballs everyone into here
[02:47] <Burgundavia> Chameleon22, they shouldn't if you say you are using Kubuntu
[02:48] <Chameleon22> Burgundavia: well, there you go
[02:50] <jude> hi
[02:51] <jude> can anyone help me with a problem compiling qt apps?
[02:53] <Shachaf> I'm having problems setting up PHPWiki. My PHPWiki (called "hintiki") keeps linkg to http://localhosthintiki/hintiki?pagename=xyzzy instead of http://localhost/hintiki?pagename=xyzyy. Has anyone else had a similiar problem, and if so, how did they solve it?
[02:58] <Quinn_Storm> ahh, I figured it out...libaspell doesn't link against libstdc++ but it should...b/c its a c++ library...I think I can force gaim to compile/link if I use g++ instead of gcc for the step where it links libaspell
[02:59] <Amaranth> i don't even want to check it...
[02:59] <gomez> Hi to everyone
[02:59] <gomez> I got a problem
[03:00] <seeker_> when trying to run xawtv I get the device doesn't exit error. the site says "The device doesn't exist.  Means there is no driver module for the hardware loaded yet.  Fix your hardware setup." how am I supposed to fix my hardware setup?
[03:00] <gomez> Are there any boot/install floppies available for Hoary?
[03:00] <Nermal> seeker_, make sure the driver is loaded and xawtv is looking at the right device I guess
[03:01] <gomez> I have a Dell Workstation with no CD boot option and need to install Hoary on it to keep my wife quiet:)
[03:01] <seeker_> I don't have a driver.
[03:01] <petemc> you read the v4l stuff pretty quickly
[03:01] <jude> gomez: all you need is a generic boot disc to transfer control to the CD, not ubuntu-specific - try googling
[03:02] <seeker_> there wan't much to read. (at least I din't find a lot to read)
[03:03] <gomez> jude: Thanks
[03:03] <bourrin> hi
[03:03] <seeker_> petemc: can you give me a link to something a bit more useful? what I found was just one page on linuxquestion.org
[03:04] <guruff> could anyone help me please; xterm crashes with error: xterm: Could not exec c: No such a file or Directory;
[03:04] <seeker_> (some other stuff as well but less usefull)
[03:04] <Dull404> wich version of Mplayer is the most stable? mplayer-386 or -586 ?
[03:04] <petemc> seeker_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras/view?searchterm=webcam
[03:05] <bourrin> someone could help me please ? it's about aMule
[03:05] <petemc> seeker_: i dont know what you were looking at before, but googling for "v4l" yields many results
[03:05] <seeker_> petemc: that page is no good. my model isn't there
[03:05] <petemc> seeker_: model, or chipset?
[03:05] <seeker_> most of the links are useless (no substantial data in them)
[03:05] <seeker_> genius videocam web
[03:06] <petemc> seeker_: and the chip inside that is...?
[03:06] <seeker_>  uses the ZC0301 chip
[03:06] <seeker_> is that what you mean?
[03:06] <petemc> i guess, ive never heard of that
[03:07] <petemc> seeker_: you got that info from /proc/bus/usb/devices
[03:07] <petemc> ?
[03:08] <seeker_> no, from http://genius-europe.com/service/faq/tuxcam.htm
[03:09] <seeker_> whats a cvs?
[03:11] <dockane> how do i shutdown the xserver ?
[03:11] <PacoBCN> dockane, ctl+alt+backspace
[03:12] <dockane> PacoBCN, no thats a restart. i think i would like to change te runlevel
[03:12] <dockane> nvidia installe wants me to end the xserver for installation
[03:12] <PacoBCN> yes, if you don't want to have x running at all
[03:12] <PacoBCN> oh, I see, for compiling it against the kernel
[03:12] <Quinn_Storm> dockane: /etc/init.d/gdm stop and then make sure X is shut down
[03:13] <jude> can anyone help me with a problem compiling qt apps?
[03:13] <dockane> Quinn_Storm, thnx
[03:14] <dockane> Quinn_Storm, returns : "gdm is already running. abortion.
[03:14] <seeker_> can some explain what a cvs access is?
[03:14] <Quinn_Storm> dockane: you typed it wrong.  "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" is what you have to run
[03:14] <] BreliC[> dockane, 'init 3'
[03:15] <dockane> Quinn_Storm, why does that make a difference ?
[03:15] <Quinn_Storm> dockane: yes it makes -all- the difference wether you put "stop" after it or not
[03:16] <stazz> aarr. how can one adjust vim's auto-indent-depht?
[03:16] <petemc> seeker_: looking that page, theres a chance your camera isnt supported
[03:17] <dockane> Quinn_Storm, i changed to /etc/int.d/ and entered "sudo gdm stop".
[03:17] <Quinn_Storm> dockane: that won't work
[03:17] <Quinn_Storm> dockane: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:17] <flyingsquirrel54> where can I find directions to setup evolution groupware to work with my ms exchange server (which is not running mapi or pop3)
[03:17] <seeker_> petemc: why not? it's starred
[03:17] <bassMonkey> How could I make xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 6 7 4 5" run at gnome startup?
[03:17] <Quinn_Storm> dockane: you have to put the whole path
[03:17] <petemc> seeker_: you sure you have v2 then?
[03:17] <usynic> Quinn_Storm: do I know you?
[03:17] <usynic> Quinn_Storm: from jabber?
[03:18] <MrNonchalant> can anyone tell me how to set up Evolution to access the mail in /var/mail?
[03:18] <seeker_> pretty sure.
[03:18] <Quinn_Storm> usynic: are you the jbother synic?
[03:18] <petemc> seeker_: how?
[03:18] <usynic> Quinn_Storm: I am.
[03:18] <dockane> Quinn_Storm, looks like i terribly misunderstood something in the topic file hirarchy *?*
[03:18] <Quinn_Storm> usynic: then you know me
[03:18] <usynic> Quinn_Storm: ok :)
[03:18] <seeker_> the instruction booklet says V2, but then again, it might just be out of date. how can I be sure?
[03:19] <Quinn_Storm> dockane: you are trying to run a program in /etc/init.d/ and . is not in $PATH and when a shell executes something it looks in $PATH, starting with the first entry, so it finds /usr/bin/gdm instead of /etc/init.d/gdm
[03:19] <usynic> Quinn_Storm: nice to see you're a ubuntu user too :)
[03:19] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: yeh, one sec.
[03:19] <Quinn_Storm> usynic: yeah, technically kubuntu, heh
[03:20] <dockane> Quinn_Storm, ah perfect awnser. thanks for the explanation
[03:20] <petemc> seeker_: tough one, they both have same ids
[03:20] <Quinn_Storm> dockane: sure
[03:20] <seeker_> petemc: the installation cd says v4. damm, how can I tell which is which?
[03:20] <usynic> Quinn_Storm: ah, not a gnome fan then?  We probably had this conversation already.
[03:20] <harsha_> k
[03:20] <Quinn_Storm> usynic: probably, and yeah not a big gnome fan...gaim is my only gtk/gnomish app
[03:20] <flyingsquirrel54> go to tools>settings and click add
[03:20] <Quinn_Storm> usynic: well that and gnome-mud
[03:21] <MrNonchalant> flyingsquirrel54: k
[03:21] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: click foward and put in your address then foward again
[03:21] <harsha_> HHHHHHH
[03:22] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: for server type pick Standard Unix mbox spool or directory
[03:22] <dockane> should i backup any config files or something else for desaster recovery before i start the nvidia installer ?
[03:22] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: then it asks you for the directory and the rest should be obvious
[03:22] <MrNonchalant> flyingsquirrel54: path? /var/mail or /var/mail/user?
[03:23] <harsha_> i am new to kubuntu
[03:23] <harsha_> i am new to IRC too
[03:23] <harsha_> this is my first login
[03:24] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: To be honest I've never done it, I just happened to be working on setting up my own account, I would try the default and if it doesnt work use just /var/mail
[03:24] <MrNonchalant> flyingsquirrel54: k
[03:24] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: besides, If you have received mail just figure out where it is
[03:24] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: let me know if it works
[03:25] <stazz> Anyone know how to adjust vim's indent depth?
[03:25] <GNAM> GCC 4.0.0 OUT!
[03:25] <GNAM> ftp://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/releases/gcc-4.0.0/gcc-4.0.0.tar.bz2
[03:25] <seeker_> petemc: how do I install the driver? I always used synaptic, never installed anything manually...
[03:26] <petemc> seeker_: synaptic installs packages, you need to add kernel modules, they arent the same
[03:26] <seeker_> ok. so how do I do that?
[03:26] <petemc> seeker_: that page that mentions your camera has documentation, you need to read it, twice
[03:27] <PacoBCN> hey, guys anyone here is a Direct COnnect user?
[03:28] <MrNonchalant> flyingsquirrel54: it worked. I tried /var/mail and /var/mail/user, one of the two must of worked because I received the mail
[03:29] <MrNonchalant> flyingsquirrel54: not sure which, because I was expecting it to be in the same inbox as the other accounts
[03:29] <IceEyz> anyone knows how to get rid of default emblems, like the yellow arrows on icons that are symbolic links or mounted devices?
[03:30] <adamh> php4 doesn't seem to be compiled with the "zip" extension on ubuntu. Is there any way to get it (without recompiling)?
[03:30] <Quinn_Storm> adamh: I don't think so unfortunately
[03:30] <adamh> It's not just me, right? I'm not crazy?
[03:30] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: If you go back to tools settings, you can change the account names, then you will be able to see more clearly which has the mail
[03:33] <MrNonchalant> flyingsquirrel54: I'm not sure I understand you. My pop mailboxes are in one section, maildir in another each with their own set of folders. I wasn't expecting that, so I missed which worked /var/mail or /var/mail/user.
[03:33] <ringmauer> hi, do any of you guys know what i should write in shell to delete a folder?
[03:33] <adamh> ringmauer: rm -rf [folder] 
[03:34] <Marko01>  rm -rf
[03:34] <zax123> Hi guys.  I just installed PHP4/Apache2 on an Ubuntu system for the first time.  I'm moving from Debian.  I noticed that PHP4 on Ubuntu doesn't have zip support compiled in.  Any reason for this?  Anyway to get it back without compiling PHP from source?
[03:34] <ringmauer> tnx adamh
[03:34] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: I just tried it. here's how it works (its pretty smart; this is all new to me too.)
[03:34] <adamh> ringmauer: Don't type the wrong folder name, and don't put spaces, or you'll break things badly :)
[03:34] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant:the one where we used /var/mail shows subfolders for each user on the system whereas the one where we put /var/mail/user only has that users mail
[03:35] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: Of course you're probably the only user on the machine
[03:35] <ringmauer> :-D.. no problem, the folder is already gone :-D
[03:36] <flyingsquirrel54> notice that for each account you added, another bold line appears with its own junk and trash folders
[03:36] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: understand what I'm saying?
[03:37] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: looks like /var/mail/user is the more correct way of doing it, although both work
[03:37] <nydust> what is the commando for consol based synaptic?
[03:38] <Ocid> nydust: apt-get
[03:38] <Ocid> or aptitude
[03:38] <MrNonchalant> flyingsquirrel54: I gotcha.
[03:38] <nydust> Ocid, thanks
[03:38] <bad_mongo> how do I mount my iPod in ubuntu?
[03:38] <MrNonchalant> flyingsquirrel54: Neat.
[03:39] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: i think so too :-)
[03:39] <ringmauer> does anybody know a good msn messenger prog for ubuntu?
[03:39] <flyingsquirrel54> MrNonchalant: we both learned this time
[03:39] <bad_mongo> ringmauer: gaim!
[03:39] <goo> ringmauer: gaim is good, i suppose. That's what I use for MSN anyways
[03:39] <ringmauer> okej, is it hard to install?
[03:40] <ringmauer> im a beginner on linux with just 2 days experience
[03:40] <Ocid> sudo apt-get install gaim
[03:40] <goo> ringmauer: no, just search for it in the synaptic package anager
[03:40] <goo> ringmauer: System->Administration
[03:40] <ringmauer> where do i find synaptic pm?
[03:40] <ringmauer> you were faster
[03:40] <ringmauer> tnx
[03:40] <goo> np
[03:41] <flyingsquirrel54> ringmauer it should already be installed Applications >Internet>Gaim Internet messenger
[03:41] <jude> can anyone help me with a problem compiling qt apps?
[03:42] <ringmauer> it was allready installed, can it be easier, I JUST LOVE LINUX
[03:42] <MrNonchalant> don't we all
[03:43] <Bazzi> I don't
[03:43] <flyingsquirrel54> ringmauer I JUST LOVE UBUNTU !;-)     Ubuntu is the one that installed it by default
[03:43] <MrNonchalant> Bazzi: spoil sport
[03:44] <flyingsquirrel54> I still need help Connecting evolution to a m$ exchange server:'-(
[03:45] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: do you have access to exchange web client?
[03:45] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: owa that is
[03:45] <ringmauer> when im trying to mess someone in my buddy list gaim says Message could not be sent because an error with the switchboard occurred:
[03:46] <flyingsquirrel54> yeah, I think so, I'd have to get the details, but yes I'm pretty sure, just never use it
[03:46] <IceEyz> anyone knows how to lose the annoying default emblems on symlinks and mounted devices?
[03:46] <Myrtti> would anyone have some insight on how to make sodipodi output stuff as pdf?
[03:46] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: you need to fill in the owa addy in evolution
[03:46] <jubei> how do i apply kernel patches, i'm in /usr/src/linux-patches/i386/2.6.10 and I see apply  debian  unpatch
[03:46] <jubei> ?
[03:47] <flyingsquirrel54> Ocid: ??? owa addy  what??
[03:47] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: heh
[03:47] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: the address of the outlook web access http://mail.something.tld
[03:48] <flyingsquirrel54> what sort of server do I choose in the drop-down box?
[03:48] <Ocid> exchange
[03:49] <john___> Hello
[03:49] <ups> IceEyz, tried right clicking on the file and checking Properties?
[03:49] <flyingsquirrel54> Ocid: then I put the owa in the server field?
[03:50] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: yep
[03:50] <flyingsquirrel54> Thanks I'll try that
[03:52] <ringmauer> is there any .wma plugin for rythmbox?
[03:54] <ringmauer>  is there any .wma plugin for rythmbox?
[03:55] <[Johnny] > grub will not install on my pc plz is there something to change to lilo?
[03:55] <synd> how do i mount a nikon camera?
[03:55] <synd> digital camera*
[03:55] <synd> ?
[03:56] <goo> ringmauer: use mplayer for wma's  Make sure to install the package w32codes  first
[03:56] <synd> anyone?
[03:56] <goo> ringmauer: Take a look in the wiki for how to get w32codecs
[03:56] <ringmauer> but i have mp3 and wma mixed, do you know any mp3 player that supports both and can handle a 6000 song playlist
[03:57] <Shufla> hello
[03:57] <goo> ringmauer: nope. I have made sure to NOT encode any music into wma. I am not sure wether or not mplayer plays wma's with DRM either.
[03:58] <goo> synd: what model Nikon camera?
[03:58] <synd> goo: 3200
[03:58] <synd> goo: i also have a sandisk multiformat card reader that i could use also..
[03:59] <[Johnny] > Plz help how can I use lilo instead of Grub, because grub isn t able to install on my machine
[03:59] <goo> synd: the card reader would be a very sure bet, it should pop up an icon on your desktop where you may access your photos
[04:00] <synd> goo: ok, ill try that out
[04:00] <goo> synd: the Nikon 3200 is supported by gphoto2 in PTP mode, so it should probably show up on the desktop as an icon as well(but I am not sure :)
[04:01] <synd> goo: well.. i just hooked up the card reader and it lit up.. but im not seeing anything on the desktop
[04:01] <synd> goo: same with the 3200
[04:02] <synd> goo: im running hoary
[04:03] <goo> synd: yeah, me too. I just plugged in my ixus, and i had to use gtkam to access it
[04:03] <makkia> hello
[04:04] <makkia> where i find a repository for linphone 1.0 ?
[04:04] <makkia> in hoary is 0.12
[04:04] <synd> goo: should i try gtkam? and how do i do that..
[04:04] <goo> synd: have you been to System->Preferences->Removable Drives And Media->Multimedia ?
[04:04] <synd> goo: trying that
[04:04] <goo> synd: if gtkam is installed just type gtkcam in a terminal window
[04:05] <goo> gtcam in terminal, sorry
[04:05] <goo> arr! gtkam. gah.
[04:05] <goo> my bad.
[04:05] <synd> haha.
[04:05] <synd> goo: i went into System->Preferences->Removable Drives And Media->Multimedia
[04:06] <goo> synd: it says something about automagically running import of images there
[04:07] <goo> synd: and I guess you didn't have the program gnome-volume-manager running in your gnome-session before you opened the Removable Drives And Media dialogue. Try replugging stuff now
[04:07] <synd> goo: well it was all enabled
[04:08] <synd> goo: when i went in there
[04:08] <Fade> I'm trying to boot a powerbook using the hoary ppc iso, but the image doesn't seem bootable. Is it a known problem?
[04:08] <synd> Fade: check the md5 ?
[04:09] <goo> synd: did anything happen when replugging the camera or the sandisk reader?
[04:09] <Fade> Yeah, it's good.
[04:09] <Fade> I've downloaded it twice just to be sure.
[04:09] <synd> goo: nothing happened with either
[04:10] <Fade> on a related but interesting note, I moved the machine from debian/sid to ubuntu/hoary inline by doing a dist-upgrade, and apart from having to manually force a couple of things, it went well.
[04:11] <goo> synd: just to be really sure: run this command in console:   ps aux | grep gnome-volume-manager  | grep -v grep
[04:11] <dockane> i would like to install the adequate driver for my video card (nVidia Corporation NV10GL [Quadro] ). is http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver my howto ?
[04:11] <Fade> ps aux | grep [g] noe-volume-manager
[04:11] <Fade> will exclude grep from the output. ;)
[04:12] <goldfish> hehe
[04:12] <goo> Fade: you clever man ;)
[04:12] <goo> Fade: but grep -v grep is way moore confusing :)
[04:12] <Fade> it's a nice trick for when your pipeline is already too bloody long. ;)
[04:13] <Fade> so, anybody else experiencing bootage issues /w ubuntu/ppc?
[04:14] <Ocid> dockane: yeah that howto should cover Quadro also
[04:14] <jubei> How do I apply the Debian kernel patches?
[04:14] <Burgundavia> dockane, better to use www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo
[04:16] <dockane> Ocid, Burgundavia thnx
[04:17] <Moe|Joe|c> hi
[04:18] <Moe|Joe|c> ive got the same problem as this post on the forum...
[04:18] <Moe|Joe|c> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27724
[04:19] <flyingsquirrel54> Ocid: You still there? this isn't working...
[04:19] <Fade> Moe|Joe|c: try switching to a virtual console and logging in?
[04:19] <Moe|Joe|c> hmm
[04:20] <Moe|Joe|c> then activate gnome?
[04:20] <bretzel> XF86VidModeQueryVersion among others routines: missing in x-dev pkgs!!!! cannot link and can't find any refs in X11 related header files!. ....
[04:20] <Fade> then you can look at the ~moe/.xsession-errors file
[04:20] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: can you athenticate with the owa?
[04:21] <Ocid> authenticate*
[04:21] <flyingsquirrel54> Ocid: the address to owa is http://dgexchange03/exchange/jmartin. do I put all of this in the server field?
[04:21] <Ocid> nope
[04:21] <Ocid> just  http://dgexchange03
[04:22] <flyingsquirrel54> Ocid: Says could not connect to server http: Could not resolve hostname
[04:23] <Ocid> can you get to that address with browser?
[04:23] <] BreliC[> man, i can't get over how slllllllllooooooooowwwwwwwwwww my SuSE desktop box is w/KDE
[04:23] <] BreliC[> Ubuntu and Gnome is soooooooo much quicker
[04:24] <] BreliC[> KDE is just getting bloated
[04:25] <UbuntuGet> good words ] BreliC[ :)
[04:25] <] BreliC[> UbuntuGet, hehe, thanks
[04:25] <Foodcoman> KDE 3.4 was snappy on Ubunutu compared with Mandrake!
[04:25] <wezzer> KDE is bloat
[04:25] <flyingsquirrel54> Ocid: it works fine from mozilla
[04:26] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: try the FQDN name in evolution
[04:27] <Ocid> and the username should be like DOMAIN\jmartin
[04:28] <synd> ohh
[04:28] <synd> hmm
[04:28] <synd> goo: you still here?
[04:29] <flyingsquirrel54> Ocid: Error while Scanning folders in "Exchange server dgexchange03.dglaw.com".  Could not connect to Evolution Exchange backend process: No such file or directory
[04:29] <computerguy867> does anyone know how to get midi playback working so the use of solfege and rosegarden is possible?
[04:30] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: wow, that's out of my expertize, have no idea what that means
[04:30] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: might be that evolution only works with exchange 2003
[04:31] <flyingsquirrel54> Anyone know of a good OS program to create ISO's from CD's that will work on Win?
[04:31] <synd> ok.. how do i mount a nikon coolpix 3200?
[04:31] <flyingsquirrel54> Ocid: it is 2003
[04:31] <computerguy867> all i read on the ubuntu forums are posts of failure when it comes to midi
[04:31] <dockane> flyingsquirrel54, ircc k3b is nice bruning program
[04:31] <comforteagle> Does anyone running Ubuntu on an iBook find the resolution or size of windows a bit too large?
[04:32] <synd> comforteagle: what model iBook?
[04:32] <dockane> comforteagle, which resolution do you use ?
[04:32] <comforteagle> synd, g4
[04:32] <synd> comforteagle: well i know hardware-wise the max resolution is 1024x768
[04:32] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: hmz, cannot check now, don't have any exchange servers here at home
[04:32] <comforteagle> dockane, synd at 1024,768
[04:32] <synd> comforteagle: i have an iBook G4 myself, but i dont run ubuntu on it
[04:33] <comforteagle> hmm
[04:33] <comforteagle> Is there another way to shrink the size of everything a bit?
[04:33] <dockane> comforteagle, don't know if your modell capable of a higher resolution.
[04:34] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/connector/2004-September/000395.html
[04:34] <comforteagle> dockane, its at the max res.
[04:34] <synd> comforteagle: i have it running at 1024x768 on this laptop im on now and it doesnt really seem too bad.. but it is a lot different than my desktop that i have running at 1600x1200
[04:34] <synd> comforteagle: are you in gnome?
[04:34] <comforteagle> synd, yes
[04:34] <Somebody> Hello, I can't seem to be able to play .mid. With what can I play .mid files with?
[04:35] <icebalm> hmm, is breezy open yet
[04:35] <mjr> Somebody, timidity
[04:35] <synd> comforteagle: have you tried using xfce or fluxbox? those seem a bit smaller than gnome
[04:35] <dockane> comforteagle, then i cant help you sorry. had a problem on my thinkpad with the 640 resolution which wouldnt change to higher resolutions untill i changed the  display frequency in some xserver conf file
[04:35] <comforteagle> synd, no on ubuntu.
[04:36] <comforteagle> is xfce installed by default?  I didn't notice.
[04:36] <goldfish> comforteagle: nope
[04:36] <goldfish> get it though :)
[04:36] <synd> comforteagle: no, apt-get it
[04:36] <goldfish> xfce4 is sweet.
[04:36] <synd> comforteagle: i actually like it a lot better than gnome.. plus its a bit faster than gnome imho
[04:37] <comforteagle> synd, I do too... I run it on my tower.
[04:38] <synd> comforteagle: i see
[04:38] <Signuts> Hey guys, what's the differences with gentoo vs ubuntu, i'm really sick of jump through emerge hoops.
[04:38] <Fade> ubuntu is based on debian, and distributes binary packages as the main package format.
[04:38] <icebalm> Signuts: please don't start distro wars, try them out yourself, see what the differences are
[04:39] <jordanau> Signuts, well i have been running ubuntu succesfully for 2 moths now and have never even heard of an emerge hoop if that helps
[04:39] <Fade> ie. you don't have to compile anything
[04:39] <Fade> ymmv
[04:39] <Signuts> i'm not sorry for asking
[04:39] <jordanau> icebalm, what???
[04:39] <dockane> does anybody know a benchmark to compare results with other systems ?
[04:39] <jordanau> Signuts, that was a normal question
[04:39] <synd> ugh id really like to know how to get this nikon camera mounted
[04:39] <synd> anyone help?
[04:40] <jordanau> does gfoto support it?
[04:40] <dockane> synd, nope sorry. never tried to mount my nikonf f3 hp ;)
[04:40] <flyingsquirrel54> Ocid: No such file or dir
[04:41] <jordanau> Signuts, you are saying you want to switch to ubuntu from gentoo?
[04:41] <Signuts> jordanau, not yet, questioning it.
[04:41] <samiam> does anyone have an idea what the name of the graphical package manager is that has been displayed in the screenshots for hoary and is supposed to be synaptic
[04:41] <jordanau> Signuts, thats what i thought, you were in no way starting a war
[04:41] <samiam> either I have the wrong version of its a different program
[04:41] <synd> goo: you here?
[04:41] <Ocid> flyingsquirrel54: where, on my link? just google for that error
[04:41] <Fade> signuts -- my amd64 box is a gentoo machine, because when I bought it, that was the best option.
[04:42] <icebalm> jordanau: asking differences between two distribs is a good way to start a war
[04:42] <Fade> I still prefer the debian way of package management.
[04:42] <flyingsquirrel54> Ocid:  no sorry, on that page it says to run a command in the terminal.
[04:43] <flyingsquirrel54> Ocid:  the try this...
[04:43] <nad> #
[04:43] <nad>     /msg nickserv set email admin@kanerealty.com
[04:43] <Signuts> well luckily i have a spare box to try this out. Thanks guys
[04:44] <flyingsquirrel54> I'll have to look around some more. at least I can view the emails via web, I had forgotten about that possibility
[04:44] <Fade> take it easy
[04:44] <jordanau> Signuts, you will find the installation very easy
[04:44] <goldfish> samiam: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26092
[04:44] <jordanau> Signuts, glad to help
[04:45] <goldfish> samiam: might be it, ImageMagick
[04:45] <bretzel> Q: what is the puropse of having two separeted pkgs for X11 development: x-dev and xlibs-dev ???
[04:45] <jordanau> icebalm, i guess i am just still new to the linux thing
[04:45] <Burgundavia> bretzel, one is developmetn and the other is the stable release
[04:45] <Burgundavia> h
[04:45] <Burgundavia> I can read today, really
[04:46] <synd> anyone have a clue how i can get this Nikon Coolpix 3200 mounted?
[04:46] <Burgundavia> synd, does dmesg see it?
[04:46] <bretzel> So x-dev is development ? or xlibs is ? because one missing pkg was giving me brain-suck trying to compile E17
[04:46] <synd> Burgundavia: i have no idea. dmesg in terminal?
[04:47] <Burgundavia> synd, run dmesg, plug it in, and then run dmesg again, and look at what is different
[04:47] <varla> hi there anybody can tell me why I keep making these symbolic link into my dev directory and they have disappeared when I reboot
[04:47] <Burgundavia> the last few lines will tell you whether or not it has been detected
[04:47] <synd> Burgundavia: yeah, it sees it
[04:47] <Burgundavia> varla, /dev is built dynamically at everyboot, taht may be it
[04:47] <Burgundavia> synd, ok, does gthumb see the camera?
[04:48] <synd> Burgundavia: gthumb in term?
[04:49] <varla> Burgundivia,i used to be on warty and they always stayed there, now with hoary they dissapear and I have problems with my cd playre
[04:49] <Fade> varla -- define symlinks you want to be persistent in /dev in the config file /etc/devfs/symlinks
[04:49] <Burgundavia> synd, apps->graphics-->gThumb
[04:49] <Fade> (he says hoping ubuntu is the same as debian in that respect)
[04:49] <synd> Burgundavia: ah.. i dont think it sees it
[04:49] <synd> Burgundavia: ive never used gthumb before
[04:49] <varla> ok I will try that thanks
[04:50] <Fade> n'p
[04:51] <synd> Burgundavia: ?
[04:51] <cspnico> hi
[04:52] <varla> Fade, there is no symlinks file there. Should I create one?
[04:52] <Burgundavia> synd, yess
[04:52] <synd> Burgundavia: how exactly do i check if gThumb can see my camera?
[04:52] <cspnico> i search to have the name if a log which could give information from my computer thaks to a website
[04:52] <synd> never used it
[04:53] <Burgundavia> synd, file-->import photos
[04:53] <Fade> varla: 'sec
[04:53] <icebalm> Fade: ubuntu doesn't use devfs, it uses udev
[04:53] <dcraven> cspnico, what kind of information?
[04:54] <Burgundavia> cspnico, you might have better luck at #ubuntu-fr
[04:54] <cspnico> yes i could drive log from another computer
[04:54] <devazion> icebalm, no? it use devfs until breezy right? :|
[04:54] <icebalm> devazion: nope, udev
[04:54] <Fade> varla: if ubuntu uses udev, my advice is bad.
[04:55] <varla> Fade: ok how will I know which it uses
[04:55] <synd> Burgundavia: its not detecting the camera
[04:55] <Fade> icbalm says it uses udev
[04:55] <Burgundavia> synd, hmm, it should
[04:55] <icebalm> varla: ps aux | grep udevd
[04:56] <Fade> in /etc/udev there will/should be a similar config for symlinks.
[04:56] <Fade> but as I don't yet have a ubuntu system to test on, I can't say for sure.
[04:56] <icebalm> you can change udev.rules
[04:56] <synd> Burgundavia: any idea how?
[04:56] <icebalm> the format of the file is not intuitive however
[04:57] <varla> I just look there and there is one file symlinks.conf
[04:57] <synd> Burgundavia: i also have a sandisk multiformat card reader that i could use but im not sure how to mount that either.
[04:57] <Fade> that'd be the one.
[04:57] <rizla> hi flks
[04:57] <Burgundavia> synd, it should automount
[04:57] <varla> ok thanks I will look into this
[04:58] <synd> Burgundavia: it doesnt automount
[04:58] <synd> Burgundavia: and i have it enabled in removeable drives and media prefs
[04:58] <Burgundavia> synd, then I would say something is borked on your machine
[04:58] <synd> ugh
[04:59] <Burgundavia> are you running warty?
[04:59] <synd> no, hoary final
[04:59] <Burgundavia> install of hoary final?
[04:59] <synd> yea
[04:59] <synd> clean install
[04:59] <Burgundavia> hmm
[04:59] <Burgundavia> then report the bug
[04:59] <balor> synd: I've seen this before
[04:59] <Tirno> hi. I'm having trouble with wireless on my laptop (hoary). There is a physical button to switch the centrino wireless-card on and off. 1)After login, computer freezes if card is on. 2) often, I lose the network and cannot associate with an accesspoint in spite of sudo iwlist scan yielding results
[04:59] <Tirno> any ideas?
[04:59] <balor> synd: It happened after I plugged in a dodgy USB webcam
[05:00] <sp3tt> The ubuntu live cd can find my disks, but the installer can't. Why?
[05:00] <Nermal> note the word "dodgy"
[05:00] <Nermal> sp3tt, different kernel ?
[05:00] <synd> well its recognizing the camera.. but i just cant get the pictures off of it.
[05:00] <balor> synd: ah
[05:00] <balor> synd: what kind of webcam
[05:00] <sp3tt> Nermal, do they use different kernels?
[05:00] <synd> it also notes the size card i have in the camera as well
[05:00] <cspnico> i couldnt control my pc from a website?
[05:01] <synd> balor: nikon coolpix 3200
[05:01] <sp3tt> And is there a parameter to make fdisk show unpartitioned space?
[05:01] <balor> synd: When you plug it in does a /dev/sda device get created?
[05:01] <synd> balor: how do i check
[05:02] <balor> synd: ls /dev | grep sda
[05:02] <queuetue> Hi - I have an ubuntu server ("A") with a printer attached.  A second machine ("B") would like to use that printer.  Can anyone explain the process of making this work?
[05:02] <balor> synd: do this when the camera is unplugged and then plugged
[05:02] <balor> queuetue: you'll be using CUPS then if both machines are *NIX
[05:02] <comforteagle> I just finished intalling xfce4 via apt-get.  How do I switch to it?
[05:03] <synd> comforteagle: reboot
[05:03] <petemc> wtf
[05:03] <synd> comforteagle: then click session on the login screen
[05:03] <comforteagle> i really have to reboot?
[05:03] <queuetue> balor, Yes, I *KNOW* I'll be using cuos. :)  I'm asking for an explanation of how to use cups to accomplish this.
[05:03] <synd> comforteagle: and xfce should be there
[05:03] <petemc> comforteagle: no
[05:03] <synd> comforteagle: im not sure
[05:03] <synd> comforteagle: i meant like restart X
[05:03] <petemc> comforteagle: try logging out, look at the sessions menu
[05:03] <comforteagle> petemc, ok...
[05:04] <synd> petemc: that didnt work when i installed xfce
[05:04] <balor> queuetue: One machine becomes a CUPS server, the other uses the printer as shared out by that machine.
[05:04] <synd> petemc: iono?
[05:04] <icebalm> queuetue: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions most notably: "How can I share my printer on my LAN?"
[05:04] <Tirno> My problem is solved by rebooting. But that's kinda silly.... I know that there are few problems under linux that can be solved with a reboot that can be solved more elegantly
[05:04] <petemc> synd: it should. I dont know what "iono" means
[05:04] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - im still having problems with my my udev. yesterday my udev.conf disapeared (i must have unwittingly updated it) - it wouldn't boot past "Starting Hotplug SubSystem". i got the udev.conf from the 0.50 udev, and now that wont add the /dev/hd* device nodes, so none of my filesystems will mount
[05:04] <Super_Cat_Frog> any help with that would be, er, groovy
[05:04] <synd> synd: iono = i dont know
[05:04] <synd> petemc: *
[05:05] <petemc> very cryptic
[05:05] <synd> say iono out loud
[05:05] <synd> haha
[05:05] <rizla> does somebody use avidemux?
[05:06] <icebalm> Super_Cat_Frog: reinstall the udev package?
[05:06] <Super_Cat_Frog> icebalm - tried
[05:07] <Tirno> what's the etiquette here when a question doesn't get answered. Most chans I'm on, there is little traffic, so no answer means noone knows/wants to answer. Should I repeat my question or wait an hour and ask then?
[05:07] <icebalm> Super_Cat_Frog: did you try with --force-confnew ?
[05:07] <Super_Cat_Frog> tirno, in irc, i usually wait about 15 mins, then try again
[05:07] <Super_Cat_Frog> icebalm - no, i'l try that now, ta
[05:07] <Tirno> k, thanks
[05:08] <queuetue> icebalm, Ok, that FAQ entry describes a part of the process, but hw do I actually share the printer?
[05:09] <icebalm> queuetue: no, that FAQ entry describes the whole process
[05:09] <sp3tt> Is there a way to show unpartitioned space?
[05:09] <cspnico> I cannot control my pc from a website?
[05:09] <queuetue> icebalm, I'm somehow missing the "now do this to add the printer to the remote computer" part...
[05:09] <cspnico> i fordot thez name of the log who do that
[05:09] <comforteagle> xfce on ubuntu on my ibook is sweeeeeet
[05:09] <icebalm> queuetue: you add it like a networked printer
[05:10] <queuetue> icebalm, Ok.  How do "add it like a networked printer"?
[05:10] <icebalm> queuetue: the same way you add any other printer!
[05:11] <Super_Cat_Frog> icebalm - im gonna try rebooting now, thanks
[05:11] <queuetue> icebalm, specifically, how do I add it?  I need to type in a URI, and Nothing I can find tells me what it is...
[05:13] <icebalm> queuetue: ipp://hostnameofcomputerhere/nameofprinter
[05:13] <ups> how does someone see a windows partition from a live cd?
[05:14] <IRCMark> hi, I have a problem with phpmyadmin
[05:14] <Mithsir> Hi! Is anyone running openoffice on hoary?
[05:14] <Mithsir> Hi! Is anyone running openoffice on hoary amd64?
[05:15] <sp3tt> ups: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222
[05:15] <ups> sp3tt, /mnt/windows has to be created?
[05:15] <sp3tt> Yes,
[05:15] <balor> Is there a version of Quake2 in Universe?
[05:16] <sp3tt> sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[05:16] <ups> sp3tt, well, the system has only windows on it, and it's a live cd
[05:16] <ups> i know how to do that on a regular system ;)
[05:16] <sp3tt> ups: I am running live cd too!
[05:16] <sp3tt> And I have mounted my windows partition without trouble,
[05:17] <sp3tt> Weird how the live cd can find and mount them... But not the installer,
[05:17] <ups> sp3tt, u mean the partitions are automounted?
[05:18] <sp3tt> No.
[05:18] <Tirno> hi. I'm having trouble with wireless on my laptop (hoary). There is a physical button to switch the centrino wireless-card on and off. 1)After login, computer freezes if card is on. 2) often, I lose the network and cannot associate with an accesspoint in spite of sudo iwlist scan yielding results
[05:18] <Tirno> websites suggest that ndiswrapper might help
[05:18] <ups> sp3tt, then what is the default mount point? (i'm helping a friend with this, dont have the live cd myself)
[05:19] <Tirno> but after boot and pressing the button, the wireless usually works fine for a bit
[05:19] <sp3tt> I think it is /mnt/hda1
[05:19] <Tirno> "a bit" being anything from 10 minutes to 7 hours
[05:19] <ups> sp3tt, so basically after the live cd has booted, what to do?
[05:20] <sp3tt> sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[05:20] <sp3tt> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222
[05:20] <queuetue> icebalm, I get "Network host "foo" is busy: will rety in 30 seconds" iow, the standard cups "one of 30,000 possible things is wrong - please guess what it is" message...
[05:20] <ups> sp3tt, err... if none of the partitions aren't mounted then where can i create that directory?
[05:21] <ups> sp3tt, or am i missing something?
[05:21] <sp3tt> cd /mnt
[05:21] <sp3tt> sudo mkdir windows
[05:21] <ups> hmm
[05:22] <pbtraveller> Hi hab Probleme mit dhcpd No subnet declaration for start (0.0.0.0)
[05:22] <gustav_> balor: sort of, you'll still need the game CD to get the data-files
[05:22] <pbtraveller> jemand ne idee?
[05:23] <housetier> pbtraveller #ubuntu-de wird eher ne Idee haben :)
[05:25] <pbtraveller> danke bin neu auf ubuntu/ linux werde mal schauen
[05:25] <pbtraveller> danke
[05:25] <Super_Cat_Frog> icebalm - i did dpkg -i --force-conf (or something like that) on udev, and on a different version, but neither worked - its now just freezing at Starting Hotplug Subsystem - any ideas?
[05:25] <Sionide> where do you install xmms themes?
[05:25] <o> Lo, does anyone know if it's possible to edit the right click menu on the desktop?
[05:26] <icebalm> Super_Cat_Frog: it sounds like you will have to purge the package and reinstall it, dpkg -P
[05:26] <housetier> pbtraveller /join #ubuntu-de und dort fragen :)
[05:26] <Super_Cat_Frog> icebalm - could it be hotplug (or something else) causing this problem??
[05:27] <queuetue> Does anyone know how to set up a network-shared printer between two ubuntu machines?
[05:28] <no0tic> does switch "location" in net preferences work?
[05:28] <icebalm> Super_Cat_Frog: doubtful
[05:29] <icebalm> Super_Cat_Frog: but anything is possible
[05:29] <djp> doe anybody know the best way to listen to .sid files under ubuntu hoary?
[05:29] <djp> does anybody even!
[05:29] <Nermal> what does file say about them ?
[05:30] <djp> Nermal: sorry?
[05:30] <Super_Cat_Frog> is breezy being built against gcc 3.4 or gcc 4? that could be causing my udev problems (if im using the breezy version, it wont run on a system built with gcc 3.3.5)
[05:30] <no0tic> it seems to be broken..
[05:30] <mjr> djp, dunno about the best, but at least sidplay is in universe
[05:31] <Choubaka> Super_Cat_Frog: 4.0 afaik
[05:31] <Super_Cat_Frog> ahh
[05:31] <djp> mjr: sure, have seen that.. what is the difference between sidplay and sidplay-base?
[05:31] <mjr> *shrug*
[05:31] <Super_Cat_Frog> is it possible then to get apt-get to install every apps latest version (including downgrading), after removing breezy from my sources.list?
[05:31] <djp> mjr: thanks anyway
[05:37] <queuetue> Is there maybe some other printing system that actually works, besides cups?
[05:38] <queuetue> Heck, there are like 4 different sound alternatives that hardly work, there must be more than oe broken printing system. :)
[05:39] <wave> ok whats with this badger thing? breezy badger? bsd badger? Where the heck did a badger come from?
[05:39] <uggwar> queuetue: you can share the printer over samba
[05:39] <queuetue> uggwar, It
[05:39] <uggwar> queuetue: sorry?
[05:39] <Tirno> wave: itsa badger badger badger badger
[05:39] <queuetue> 's a little embarassing that that's probabl how I have to do it...
[05:40] <uggwar> queuetue: hehe
[05:40] <queuetue> uggwar, Sorry, stray return.:)
[05:40] <wave> ???
[05:40] <uggwar> queuetue: I was a bit too fast there :)
[05:41] <Tirno> (mushroom mushroom)
[05:41] <queuetue> lasagna
[05:41] <Tirno> surely you've seen the irritating flash movie?
[05:41] <queuetue> Tirno, Oh, you were actually making a point? :)
[05:42] <Iron_Monkey> any one good with Kubuntu ?
[05:43] <wave> irritating flash movie?
[05:43] <Choubaka> looping one
[05:43] <Choubaka> loops are annoying
[05:43] <Choubaka> because they're addictive :|
[05:43] <wave> what do I need to google? or does anyone have a link?
[05:43] <bretzel> Running E17 -- How to add E17 se3ssion in gdm ?? searched in all places but no clue
[05:44] <Nermal> wave, no idea.. ask jdub
[05:44] <bretzel> I mean, add E17 in choices in gdm
[05:44] <Nermal> they seem to have an animal as the second word and an uber dodgy word as the first
[05:44] <Nermal> there is a ubuntu list announcement as to why he chose "breezy" and I guess badger as its an animal starting in "b"
[05:45] <cspnico> how use terminal with webmin?
[05:45] <Nermal> I see oreilly books on "hoary hedgehog" having a hedgehog splaying its legs with skimpy underwear on the front cover :|
[05:46] <flodine> can muine get album covers for you?
[05:46] <Arnia> flodine: Yep... from Amazon
[05:46] <Arnia> Does it automatically
[05:46] <flodine> how  do i do that
[05:47] <syntaxis> Nermal: breezy isn't that dodgy a word... it's fairly often used to mean "fresh", "animated", "energetic"
[05:47] <wave> I found it.
[05:47] <] BreliC[> syntaxis, also means nonchalant, as in attitude
[05:47] <wave> and all I have to say is ...............
[05:48] <Nermal> syntaxis, I was referring to hoary
[05:48] <] BreliC[> wave, how difficult was it to install E17 on Hoary?
[05:48] <flodine> Arnia how do i get it to auto get album cover?
[05:48] <bretzel> ] BreliC[: I am actually rinning E17, just finished compiling it ...
[05:49] <syntaxis> Nermal: ah, ok... I read "they seem to have an animal as the second word and an uber dodgy word as the first" as being a more general statement
[05:49] <wave> sorry never messed with E17 on ubuntu. only gentoo and it was only elogin and such never got the windows manager.
[05:49] <Fab_> hi
[05:49] <bretzel> ] BreliC[: But I have to stop xwindow and then write ~/.xinitrc file to run it ... I am asking for how-to add E17 as choice in gdm or other
[05:49] <] BreliC[> bretzel, sorry, i meant to ask you... how is it?  any problems compiling it?
[05:50] <wave> Has anyone seen bannana phone?
[05:50] <bretzel> ] BreliC[: no unresolveable probs: need : x-dev, xlibs-dev, ltdl3-dev pkgs
[05:50] <Fab_> quick question: where is the arror icon located, the one that closes/opens panels / drawers
[05:50] <Fab_> arrow*
[05:51] <bretzel> ] BreliC[: and of course E17 sources... get the sources and follow guide from "http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org
[05:51] <bretzel> ] BreliC[: And how is it: --- WOW! but no such tools because it is still in early dev stages... but usable and very eye-candy! :-)
[05:52] <Gibby> Hi guys. I have a problem. I was trying the AMD64 live 5.04, trying to recover some data on old disks. The disks are using ReiserFS. I can mount them fine, but when I try deleting a directory, the Kernel panics: "not syncing: Aiee! killing interupt handler."
[05:52] <Gibby> Any idea what's going on?
[05:53] <Gibby> I've tried this twice, and the same results each time.
[05:53] <] BreliC[> bretzel, nice!  I've been looking at it for a while, just never got around to actually compiling it.  I think i'll give it a shot.
[05:53] <keffo> hm, odd question.. you know between the scenes in moviemaking.. you use a little black 'n white stuff you "klicking" with
[05:53] <keffo> what is that called+
[05:53] <bretzel> ] BreliC[: and actually cannot find its famous file-manager that I see often in E17 screenshots...
[05:55] <bretzel> ] BreliC[: not that long to compile btw, ( I am using P4 @2.4 ghz and took only few minutes to compile all the stuff
[05:55] <dj28> does anybody here know how i can isntall msttcorefonts on ubuntu? it's in debian but seems to be missing from ubuntu
[05:56] <queuetue> I have a pair of ubuntu servers - ("A") with a printer named "foo" attached, and a second machine ("B") that would like to use that printer.  I have changed Location "/" to allow 192.168.1.*, changed Listen 127.0.0.1:631 to "port 631" on "A" and on "B", have added a printer that points to "ipp://A/foo".  instead of printing, I get  the standard cups error "A is busy. trying again in 30 seconds" (or something very similar to that.)
[05:56] <queuetue> Can anyone explain how to fix this?
[05:57] <Super_Cat_Frog> icebalm - i tried that, still doesn't work
[05:57] <e-ogma> How does Ubuntu work with ADSL modems? fine? I could use a D-link or a Quick Connect modem, which one would be best?
[05:57] <howy> Just installed Ubuntu 5.04 as a server
[05:58] <howy> Found some bugs, also some suggestions
[05:58] <Gibby> Hi guys. I have a problem. I was trying the AMD64 live 5.04, trying to recover some data on old disks. The disks are using ReiserFS. I can mount them fine, but when I try deleting a directory, the Kernel panics: "not syncing: Aiee! killing interupt handler."
[05:59] <howy> biggest problem area was sendmail - realize that is not a supported package - should I still report them?  If so - where?
[05:59] <icebalm> Super_Cat_Frog: that sucks
[05:59] <TTilus> queuetue: just a guess..  try ipp://A:631/foo
[06:00] <Sabator> Can someone help me? I have a recurring problem with the GRUB failing to boot my windows partition correctly. I fixed it before but I forgot how.
[06:00] <Super_Cat_Frog> icebalm - it does, yes
[06:00] <tritium> dj28, msttcorefonts is in multiverse
[06:01] <Fab_> bretzel: do i need to compile all the packages on that site in the order mentioned there, or just the enlightenment one
[06:01] <tritium> Sabator, you may need to enable LBA in your bios
[06:01] <Super_Cat_Frog> sabator - at the risk of sounding like a stuck record of windows jokes - thats a feature
[06:01] <TTilus> queuetue: another guess would be http://A:631/printers/foo
[06:02] <Sabator> I remember I had to go into the GRUB menu file and the arguement "unhide" was very important, but there was another part to it. I got the answer from this channel last time
[06:02] <dj28> tritium, weird, i didn't see it
[06:02] <tritium> dj28, but you found it now?
[06:02] <dj28> tritium, but it worked out fine. they seemed to install automatically when i installed cabextract
[06:02] <cspnico> i can use irc with webmin?
[06:02] <TTilus> queuetue: I have a server running cups and client has DeviceURI http://tavi:631/printers/hp in /etc/cups/printers.conf
[06:03] <TTilus> tavi is the server and printer is called hp
[06:03] <queuetue> TTilus, ok, thanks for that (trying now.)
[06:04] <Super_Cat_Frog> icebalm - is there anything i can do short of reinstalling?
[06:04] <Sabator> Well if nobody knows for sure, let's try an alternate solution. A lot of you must idle this channel a lot, right? if people could search their logs for my name, and let me know what the solution was, that would be a great help. I've only been in this channel once before.
[06:05] <icebalm> Super_Cat_Frog: maybe, I'm not sure what it might be
[06:05] <Super_Cat_Frog> does anybody else have any idea what could cause ubuntu to stop booting at "Starting Hotplug Subsystem"?
[06:06] <comfrey> Super_Cat_Frog: it is looking for stuff
[06:06] <comfrey> Super_Cat_Frog: it stops all tgether?
[06:06] <Super_Cat_Frog> comfrey - it just stops altogether (left it for ages but it didn't do anything)
[06:07] <agenteo> do you know the way to avoid the opening of two nautilus windows when you double click on a not mounted device icon from GNOME?
[06:07] <XplOzIon> Hi all
[06:07] <comfrey> Super_Cat_Frog: hmm... well ... i would start by blacklisting certain modules...
[06:07] <Super_Cat_Frog> comfrey - it was working yesterday morning, but i had breezy in my sources.list so i might have upgraded it unwittingly. ive tried removing breezy from my sources.list, purging udev and hotplug and installing the latest version in hoary but that didn't help
[06:07] <Super_Cat_Frog> comfrey - ah, i didn't think of that
[06:08] <XplOzIon> agenteo: Yeah, go to System Tool -> Configuration Editor
[06:08] <comfrey> or... turn off hotplug and see what mods it needs or so
[06:08] <Fab_> bretzel: why has thou forsaken me??
[06:08] <XplOzIon> Select Apps -> nautilus
[06:09] <agenteo> XplOzIon: ok
[06:09] <XplOzIon> agenteo: Preferences and check always_use:browser
[06:09] <comfrey> Super_Cat_Frog: check out the  hotplug config and you can tell it to look for certain things
[06:09] <comfrey> pair down what it is looking for in single usermode,
[06:09] <XplOzIon> agenteo: that way you will use it like u wanted
[06:09] <comfrey> and perhaps see if there is a verbose option
[06:09] <Super_Cat_Frog> comfrey - any particular file, my blacklist seems to be as it was
[06:09] <agenteo> XplOzIon: it was already checked
[06:09] <tritium> Sabator, you can't hit a key (Esc, for example) at boot time and get to the menu?  You can always comment out "hiddenmenu" in your /boot/grub/menu.lst and then run "sudo update-grub"
[06:09] <comfrey> um... hnag on, i can check
[06:10] <agenteo> XplOzIon: I'm already using it in browser way
[06:10] <Sabator> tritium, I can get to the menu fine
[06:10] <XplOzIon> agenteo: oh, hmm
[06:11] <Sabator> but I can't remember the exact command
[06:11] <Sabator> for booting Windows
[06:11] <XplOzIon> brb
[06:11] <Sabator> because I moved the partition
[06:11] <tritium> Sabator, it's not a menu item?
[06:11] <agenteo> XplOzIon: by the way I've noticed the difference :) looks like when it's not in browser the double window is not opened
[06:11] <agenteo> at least fot the floppy
[06:11] <Sabator> well I actually edited menu.lst before tritium
[06:12] <tritium> Sabator, you'll have to edit it to reflect the new partition info, and run "sudo update-grub"
[06:12] <comfrey> Super_Cat_Frog: so... i was thinking of diiscover... i m not so sure off the top of my head how to restrict hotplug...
[06:12] <Fab_> checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[06:12] <Fab_> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[06:12] <Fab_> See `config.log' for more details.
[06:12] <Fab_> any suggestions?
[06:12] <Sabator> edit it how, tritium?
[06:13] <tritium> Sabator, your editor of choice.  e.g., "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[06:13] <Sabator> yeah, but what do I edit?
[06:13] <eruin> nano -w
[06:13] <queuetue> TTilus, Apparently the "secret" was top restart cups an 8th time - the 7th must not have been enough to truip the "voodoo bit".
[06:14] <Fab_> queutue: lol
[06:14] <Fab_> my printer works now, btw
[06:14] <Fab_> over smb
[06:14] <Sabator> I really wish I could remember how I fixed the problem last time
[06:14] <Sabator> it's doing my head in
[06:14] <Sionide> pico is easy
[06:14] <Sabator> I spoke to all my mates and tried to get logs off them
[06:15] <Sionide> i much prefer pico to vi
[06:15] <Super_Cat_Frog> fab_ - apt-get install build-essential
[06:15] <Sabator> I use gedit all the time
[06:15] <Super_Cat_Frog> (iirc)
[06:15] <Sionide> or gedit, yeah
[06:15] <bretzel> Fab_ bretzel: why has thou forsaken me?? uh ???
[06:16] <flyingsquirrel54>  anyone know of a irc about wine?
[06:16] <Fab_> super_cat_frog: argh, yes, thank you
[06:16] <Fab_> bretzel: lol, i asked you a question, but you didnt answer ;)
[06:16] <Fab_> bretzel: do i need to compile all the packages on that site in the order mentioned there, or just the enlightenment one <- that one
[06:16] <nickrud> comfrey, you're trying to blacklist some modules?
[06:16] <bretzel> Fab_: Sorry I was AFK or asking in #e channel for stuff
[06:16] <Fab_> no prob :P
[06:16] <bretzel> Take only tose with higher 00x version ones
[06:17] <Fab_> yep
[06:17] <Super_Cat_Frog> nickrud - me, my hotplug is crapping out on boot
[06:17] <Fab_> figured that already
[06:17] <Fab_> wish me luck ;)
[06:17] <nickrud> Super_Cat_Frog, create a file in /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d, and put the modules there, one per line
[06:18] <bretzel> you will need to tar xvfz all the archives and enter in each dirs and configure( --prefix=/usr  : I did it that way )  && sudo make install in each dirs
[06:18] <Fab_> bretzel: yep
[06:18] <Fab_> im configuring already ;)
[06:18] <nickrud> there's also a $VERBOSE line in /etc/init.d/hotplug where you can get verbose messages to messages.log
[06:18] <pont> Hey
[06:19] <Super_Cat_Frog> nickrud - ive alreadgot a blacklist file (its calle /etc/hotplug/blacklist, blacklist.d is a directory) im just not sure what to put in my blacklist to stop it breaking (it worked fine yesterday morning)
[06:19] <pont> MultiTrack recorder :P what kinda stuff can I install
[06:19] <Sabator> I think the problem I'm having is that when i installed Hoary I shoved the Windows partiton out of the way to make room for the linux one, insteadof putting the Linux partition behind the Windows one, so when Windows is trying to boot it can't find it's own files. I could use a partitioning program to move Windows back to it's normal position, but then Ubuntu wouldn't boot, and I know there's a simpler solution.
[06:19] <Super_Cat_Frog> nickrud - just realised you said create a file *in* blacklist.d
[06:19] <ScislaC> not exactly an Ubuntu Q, but it's the OS I'm running into the prob on... I setup pureftpd and used pureadmin to add users... when I try to login it says user authentication failed... anyone have any clues?
[06:19] <bretzel> :-) and enjoy: After that run enlightenment and fire up your browser to: http://evidence.sourceforge.net/ get the files link, grab eveidence----*---.deb file! yes there is one :-)
[06:20] <Super_Cat_Frog> scislac - i have no idea about your problem, but the only ftp server i got running and working in short order on gentoo was vsftpd - very easy to setup
[06:20] <bretzel> Fab_: and then I am actually searching for "examine", the tool for the evidence's prefs editor
[06:20] <Fab_> bretzel: lol
[06:20] <Fab_> one thing at a time ;)
[06:21] <Super_Cat_Frog> sabator - isn't there a boot.ini file or something like that in windows, that tells itself where it is
[06:22] <Goonie> Can anyone point me to a good tool to modify keyboard layouts?
[06:22] <Super_Cat_Frog> also, i dont think ubuntu would be bothered by being moved, just give grub the right info
[06:22] <Sabator> how would I make sure GRUB has that info?
[06:22] <Striss> Hey there...I'm running Hoary, I was wondering how I find out what Video Driver I'm currently using?
[06:23] <Sabator> I can't really get into ubuntu to update it automaticallu
[06:23] <ryanblack> look in xorg.conf...?
[06:23] <Sabator> striss, run glxgears
[06:23] <pont> Has anyone read the review of ubuntu in linux journal ?
[06:23] <Sabator> if you get a shit framerate
[06:23] <ryanblack> ah that would be easier..
[06:23] <ryanblack> ah
[06:23] <Sabator> then you need better drivers
[06:23] <Goonie> How do I map the windows key to something else?
[06:23] <gypsymauro> hello
[06:24] <gypsymauro> someone running ubuntu can query me the content of /etc/udev/rules.d/z_hal-plugdev.rules
[06:24] <gypsymauro> ?
[06:24] <Striss> glxgears gets me 96FPS...but when I try to run any gl apps, they are insanely slow...i have an onboard intel video chipset, should GL work with that?
[06:25] <moquist> gypsymauro: I don't have that file.
[06:25] <gA> 96FPS is a bit poo
[06:25] <mjr> Striss, depends, really, but for you it probably doesn't. See glxinfo though, the line about Direct rendering
[06:25] <Striss> k
[06:25] <mjr> at least some intels should work with DRI, some might not be out of the box (I'm not too familiar with intels myself, sadly)
[06:26] <Striss> Direct Rendering is not enabled
[06:26] <mjr> yep
[06:26] <mjr> the X log file will probably say why
[06:26] <dockane> is there a program to read out information of ram modules ?
[06:26] <Striss> alrighty, checking now
[06:26] <mjr> but I gotta go now, hungry
[06:27] <Striss> (**) I810(0): Direct rendering disabled
[06:27] <Striss> thats all i can find in the log about it
[06:27] <gypsymauro> moquist: tanx
[06:27] <mjr> Striss, before I go, dri.sourceforge.net might be a place to look for info
[06:27] <Striss> alrighty, thanks mjr
[06:27] <mjr> Striss, is there something related immediately above that text?
[06:28] <Striss> nope, just says DPMS enabled
[06:28] <mjr> hmh
[06:28] <mjr> ah well
[06:28] <dr_willis> i was thinking for the intel 810 - theres a kernel module you need to enable  befor X loads.
[06:28] <Striss> hmm, (II) LoadModule: "dri"
[06:28] <Striss> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a
[06:28] <nickrud> Striss, how much memory do you have allocated to the 810?
[06:28] <Striss> no idea, its shared memory so i dunno much about it
[06:29] <gustav_> Goonie: use the System->Settings->Keybordshortcuts tool (I'm not sure it is exactly as that, mine is in Swedish)
[06:29] <mjr> ah yes, if you have too little allocated it probably affects 3d capabilities badly
[06:29] <nickrud> If you don't give it enough, it won't do threeD
[06:29] <Striss> oh wait, i found the problem in the log
[06:29] <Striss> i'm using 24bit depth
[06:29] <mjr> on my old laptop (radeon 7500 with 16 megs) I could only have 3d when running at 800x600, which sucked
[06:30] <Striss> (**) I810(0): DRI is disabled because it runs only at 16-bit depth.
[06:30] <Striss> how do I go about switching to 16bit from 24?
[06:30] <ivoks> hi folks
[06:30] <mjr> Striss, well, there you have it then. A bit of a shame, but at least it's fixable by giving up something...
[06:30] <ryanblack> forgive the ignorance but was is DRI for....
[06:30] <ryanblack> ;-)
[06:30] <ivoks> i'm a new ubuntu user :)
[06:30] <mjr> Striss, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change DefaultDepth
[06:30] <Sabator> GO YOU
[06:30] <Striss> thankya
[06:30] <Striss> do I need to shut down X first?
[06:31] <ivoks> nope, but u need to restart it (ctrl alt backspace)
[06:31] <mjr> no, but you'll need to restart after
[06:31] <ryanblack> I think you can change it and then save.... ---^
[06:31] <mjr> echo
[06:31] <ryanblack> what he said..
[06:31] <Striss> k thanks a lot guys, you're all great help
[06:31] <Striss> ubuntu rocks as well hehe
[06:31] <xfSx> i've got problems making a public smb share, publicly broweseable and readable by anyone (like in xp), i've messed around with smb.conf but can't seem to get it workin
[06:31] <nickrud> Striss, and make sure you have a VideoRam line in the driver section, 32768 will set aside 32M
[06:31] <ivoks> yeah, ubuntu is really nice desktop distro
[06:31] <ivoks> i agree
[06:31] <xfSx> try out some of the themes fron art.gnome.org with it, sweeet
[06:31] <ivoks> xfSx that's pice of cake
[06:32] <mjr> ok, _now_ to eat ;)
[06:32] <ryanblack> hmmp I like kde better...
[06:32] <xfSx> ivoks, cool, how? i tried the shared folders app but..
[06:32] <xfSx> you run kubuntu?
[06:32] <ringmauer> how to watch divx in ubuntu?
[06:32] <ryanblack> and then added kde
[06:33] <xfSx> ringmauer, apt-get install vlc
[06:33] <ivoks> xfSx /q xfSx
[06:33] <flodine> can someone help me get muine to get album covers auto
[06:33] <ringmauer> okej i see
[06:33] <xfSx> ivoks?
[06:33] <flodine> dont see where you do that
[06:33] <ringmauer> xfSx never installed something in linux before, but do i need a lot of packages or just one+
[06:33] <ringmauer> ?
[06:33] <ryanblack> I am having an issue with getting opengl to work now that I installed Kde and took off gnome...
[06:34] <ivoks> ryanblack nope...
[06:34] <ryanblack> I suppose I could just reinstall with the kubuntu cd and reinstall the drivers etc..
[06:34] <ryanblack> I don't have anything setup since I just installed *ubuntu to begin with
[06:34] <ringmauer> What version of Vlc should i have to make it work with ubuntu?
[06:34] <ryanblack> when I log into kde I cannot use opengl
[06:34] <ryanblack> but when if I used gnome it was fine
[06:35] <Sabator> ringmauer get the latest one
[06:35] <ringmauer> but for what os
[06:35] <ryanblack> something about not using the right screen
[06:35] <Sabator> what OS?
[06:35] <ringmauer> yes vlc for ubunto doesnt exist
[06:35] <Sabator> apt-get install vlc
[06:35] <Sabator> it doesn't work?
[06:35] <Mestapheles> xwvlc
[06:35] <karljp> apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.11; untar, copy /boot/oldconfig into source, make oldconfig, make-kpkg should make a prefectly functional kernel right?
[06:35] <ringmauer> il try again
[06:35] <ivoks> people with Alps touchpad really hate 2.6.11+ kernels
[06:36] <Sionide> the worst thing about my ubuntu install is it's on my laptop, which runs at 1024x768 which i'm not used to because my desktop monitor runs at 1280x1024 :(
[06:36] <Mestapheles> rather wxvlc exists on ubuntu
[06:36] <ringmauer> no it doesnt work
[06:36] <ringmauer> but doesnt i have to download some files before installing+
[06:37] <moquist> ohboy.  what hoops do I need to jump through to get OOo2 working?  it complains about Java and dies ATM.  should I go with Sun, Blackdown...something else?
[06:37] <Depht> ringmauer, you need to add the universe repository
[06:37] <ringmauer> and where can i add that?
[06:37] <flodine> is there a muine room
[06:37] <Depht> ringmauer, the repositories dialog from synaptic is an easy way; it's in the settings menu
[06:37] <ryanblack> so... what good fps' can I get for *nix
[06:38] <ryanblack> ;-)
[06:38] <Depht> q3?
[06:38] <Sionide> q3 = quake 3
[06:38] <ryanblack> free?
[06:38] <Depht> yes, just couldn't be bothered with that many letters
[06:38] <dr_willis> RTCW:ET = free
[06:38] <ivoks> why doesn't ubuntu listen to what I say in sudoers?!
[06:38] <ringmauer> Depht: I cant find it can u tell me more specific where i fint the repsoitores dialo
[06:39] <ringmauer> g
[06:39] <ryanblack> enemy territory!!
[06:39] <ivoks> %admin  ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/fetchnews, /usr/bin/pon, /usr/bin/poff, /usr/bin/network-admin
[06:39] <ryanblack> woohoo
[06:39] <Depht> ringmauer, in synaptic, the settings menu
[06:39] <ivoks> and no... he asks pass every time.. i hate that
[06:39] <ryanblack> I need to google for that...
[06:39] <ryanblack> but first I need to get opengl in kde working
[06:39] <Goonie> I need help with my laptop keyboard layout plz
[06:39] <ryanblack> kubuntu = dead room
[06:39] <ryanblack> ;-)
[06:40] <Choubaka> ivoks: did you edit it with visudo?
[06:40] <nickrud> too busy with the eye candy
[06:40] <Choubaka> are you sure the syntax is correct?
[06:40] <dr_willis> it has nothing to do with kde ryanblack  - its an X configuration issue.
[06:40] <ivoks> Choubaka of course :)
[06:40] <queuetue> What is kubuntu, aside from ubuntu with apt-get install kde?
[06:40] <Amaranth> ryanblack: #ubuntu = uses GNOME and can't help :)
[06:40] <ryanblack> I know..
[06:40] <Amaranth> queuetue: It's Ubuntu with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:40] <ivoks> Choubaka well, man sudoers says it is... and my experience says it is
[06:40] <ryanblack> queuetue I cannot tell
[06:41] <ryanblack> I installed ubuntu..
[06:41] <Amaranth> Choubaka: XFCE?
[06:41] <ryanblack> and took a kubunu cd
[06:41] <Choubaka> yes.
[06:41] <ryanblack> and added kde
[06:41] <ryanblack> since I like kde and know my way around from forever ago when I used linux
[06:41] <dr_willis> ryanblack,  there was no need to do that either. You could of 'apt-get install kubuntu'   (or similer)'
[06:41] <ryanblack> ubuntu kbuntu are new to me I have been away from the scene forever..
[06:41] <Choubaka> I should design an xfce-desktop package.
[06:41] <ryanblack> dr_willis: I know I don't have net at home on that box
[06:42] <ryanblack> :-\
[06:42] <ryanblack> I can't apt-get anything
[06:42] <ivoks> ?
[06:42] <Choubaka> sure you can
[06:42] <Choubaka> from the CD :p
[06:42] <ryanblack> well from what he meant
[06:42] <nickrud> ryanblack, apt-zip is the tool for you
[06:43] <ryanblack> could I use that to install on my pb os x and grab stuff and then move via usb stick to ubuntu
[06:43] <ryanblack> ?
[06:43] <ryanblack> there is an apt-zip port to os x somewhere right?
[06:43] <nickrud> that's the purpose :)
[06:43] <Goonie> I need help with my laptop keyboard layout plz
[06:43] <ryanblack> Goonie: what's wrong..?
[06:44] <queuetue> Goonie, "q" is next to "w" .. :)
[06:45] <ryanblack> nickrud: how would I grab stuff via apt-zip on a pb and take that .deb or whatever output and move to the ubuntu box?
[06:45] <Choubaka> queuetue: not in dvorak :p
[06:45] <Depht> no one knows where 1 is on dvorak, other than "somewhere in a corner"...
[06:45] <queuetue> Choubaka, yeah, I was worried someone would bring that up. :)
[06:45] <Depht> * q
[06:45] <nickrud> It's been a while, but you apt-zip on ubuntu, it creates a script you run on the xp box, which downloads the needed debs.
[06:45] <Goonie> ryanblack~ nothing is wrong I guess but the Icelandic layout has a key next to z that has the "more than" and "less than" char.... my laptop doesn't have that key so I wanted to change my windows key to do that function
[06:46] <nickrud> take 'em back to ubuntu, and install.
[06:46] <ryanblack> I am on a powerbook..
[06:46] <ryanblack> ..? will this work on os x....
[06:46] <ryanblack> like it'll make me a shell script that'll run in tcsh?
[06:46] <ryanblack> haha
[06:46] <nickrud> probably, and also a .bat
[06:46] <karljp>  ert fr sland!
[06:46] <Choubaka> the <> key is keycode 94
[06:47] <ryanblack> Goonie: ah I understand...
[06:47] <karljp> choubaka, that's a bold assumption
[06:47] <ryanblack> nickrud:  Ah I'll have to tinker with that...
[06:47] <ryanblack> but I'd rather have net :-(
[06:47] <Dave2|Laptop> Hey. I'm having trouble getting evolution installed on Breezy; it complains that libcamel1.2-3 isn't going to be installed (I've already installed it), and that e-d-s won't be installed (it also complains about libcamel1.2-3). Is this a known problem, or just me?
[06:47] <Danimall> hi, everyone!
[06:47] <Choubaka> well, in my layout it is :D
[06:47] <nickrud> ryanblack, no tinkering needed, it's a solid, tested package
[06:47] <seeker_> when I run sound recorder and try to record it doesn't grab audio from the mic, even though in the mixer I enabled the mic. how can I get it to grab audio from the mic?
[06:47] <ivoks> and open log.smbd
[06:47] <queuetue> Dave2|Laptop, hoary is only a few days old!  Why are you runnng breezy already? ;)
[06:48] <Dave2|Laptop> queuetue, stable sucks! :P
[06:48] <Choubaka> :P
[06:48] <Choubaka> Hoary != debian stale
[06:48] <Depht> Dave2|Laptop, I get that too, downgraded a few packages again
[06:48] <queuetue> Heh.
[06:48] <Danimall> anyone has experience with mmc/sd card readers?
[06:48] <Amaranth> queuetue: masochism
[06:48] <Choubaka> ooops :DDDD
[06:48] <Choubaka> I did _not_ inted to type stale
[06:48] <Dave2|Laptop> Depht, I guess I ought to just wait a bit and use thunderbird or something in the mean time
[06:48] <Choubaka> I in fact typed stable
[06:48] <nickrud> anyone here read the new dpl's recent interviews?
[06:49] <Choubaka> only I pressed ctrl-b by accident
[06:49] <queuetue> Choubaka, the "b" is next to the "n".
[06:49] <queuetue> Choubaka, unless you use dvorak.
[06:49] <ivoks> people, u do so much noise :)
[06:49] <Dave2|Laptop> Choubaka, I'm well aware
[06:49] <ivoks> i can't see what man is writing to me :)
[06:49] <Dave2|Laptop> But it's Ubuntu stable :P
[06:50] <dequacker> Hi.
[06:50] <queuetue> Well, I feel put in my place.
[06:50] <dequacker> Can someone please help me?
[06:50] <Depht> dequacker, what with?
[06:50] <dequacker> I have a problem installing DVD::Rip (and the forums haven't been able to help me) :(
[06:50] <queuetue> dequacker, Don't ask to ask, just ask.
[06:50] <guruff> hi; i have question about gnome menu; i have an 'directory' in gnome menu called Debian; tried to got rig of it rm -rf /var/lib/gnome/Debian and rm /usr/share/desktop-directories/Debian.directory... but it's still there; any idea how to got rid of it ?
[06:50] <Depht> dequacker, from marillat's place?
[06:51] <dequacker> Depht, yes.
[06:51] <dequacker> What're my options?
[06:51] <nickrud> guruff, purge the package menus and menu-xdg
[06:51] <nickrud> guruff, purge the packages menu and menu-xdg :)
[06:51] <Depht> dequacker, does it not just work?
[06:51] <dequacker> Depht, exactly.
[06:51] <dequacker> It can't install using apt-get, and I can't apt-get transcode either.
[06:52] <moritz_> is there any channel en espaol? o ???
[06:52] <dequacker> moritz, para que buscas ese canal?
[06:52] <dequacker> no hablas ingles?
[06:52] <eruin> y tu mama tambien
[06:52] <nickrud> moritz_, I think it's called #ubuntu-es
[06:52] <Depht> dequacker, when does it go wrong? it selects all the packages for me, but I don't fancy installing them all right now...
[06:52] <moritz_> habalo ingles y aleman pero estudio espaol ;)
[06:53] <moritz_> nickrud, that seemed quite correct :) - thanks.
[06:53] <Danimall> I need help with a built-in mmc/sd card reader!!!
[06:53] <nickrud> I just did an irc search on #ubuntu, it's still in short term memory :)
[06:53] <dequacker> depht I have this same problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17758
[06:54] <dequacker> moritz ist deutscht? oy vey. Der Untergang ist gut.
[06:54] <Amaranth> dequacker: English please.
[06:55] <Burgundavia> dequacker, try #ubuntu-de
[06:55] <dequacker> Thanks, but I was just replying something to moritz. I speak fluent English. No need to recommend me to go here and there. :)
[06:56] <moritz_> dequacker, lol ...
[06:56] <ivoks> can u dcc smb.conf to me and i will look it here?
[06:56] <ivoks> fuck
[06:57] <moritz_> dequacker, my mom's tounge is german... secound language is english. Third started was latin. Fourth started(2 weeks) french, and than some chinese. Now I'm trying to pick up spanish...
[06:57] <dequacker> Hmm.
[06:57] <dequacker> LOL. I don't think they'll like it if you try them out in here, moritz.
[06:57] <guruff> nickrud; purge menu and menu-xdg :) thx, helped
[06:57] <ivoks> i speek croatian. only croatian.
[06:57] <queuetue> Offtoic, but ... I'd love to learn french - does anyone have a suggested method? (American, english-only speaker)
[06:58] <karljp> move to france
[06:58] <Jimbob> queuetue: Move somewhere where they speak french?
[06:58] <dequacker> wtf. Now everyone is interested in learning foreign languages.
[06:58] <moritz_> well I think quebeck is closer :)
[06:58] <karljp> they don't speak french there :)
[06:58] <moritz_> Well that's even written wrong.
[06:58] <karljp> they speak quebecistani
[06:58] <bretzel> Yes Quebec is
[06:58] <dequacker> Depht, any insight on what the problem with DVD::Rip might be?
[06:58] <moritz_> karljp, well they speek something that is close to what the frogs speak....
[06:58] <queuetue> Jimbob, That;s actually the reasoin for learning - to ease a move. :)
[06:58] <nydust> where do i see what port mysql are running on?
[06:58] <karljp> closer than english I guess :)
[06:58] <moritz_> Perdono! - french speak.
[06:59] <Depht> dequacker, not really, I don't get any dependency messages at all
[06:59] <queuetue> Montral, in fact. :)
[06:59] <moritz_> karljp, nah. If you don't speak french up there. They'll kill you right away.
[06:59] <karljp> canadians dont' kill people
[06:59] <karljp> they just say bad things.
[06:59] <dequacker> Depht, I do. I don't know what the problem is. I tried the solution one of these guys gave in the forum and it didn't help me.
[06:59] <karljp> only americans kill people for not speaking their language
[06:59] <cobb> do any free programs exist that generate UML diagrams from java code?
[06:59] <dequacker> I tried this "What you can do, is download libvorbis0_1.0rc3-1_i386.deb from rpmseek.com then enter the following to force the installation of libvorbis0 over libvorbis0a."
[06:59] <moritz_> cobb, I'd look around the eclipse stuff.
[07:00] <dequacker> But I've no idea how to make it work.
[07:00] <cobb> moritz_: oops, sorry. Wrong channel but thank you!
[07:00] <moritz_> cobb, no es nada!
[07:00] <Jimbob> karljp: Naw, there are plenty of countries that kill people for not speaking the language -- you just need to be drunk and beligerant around cops when you are "not speaking the language"
[07:00] <karljp> shoot first, ask questions later.
[07:00] <moritz_> crap-- I'm still missing the leading upside down questionmark.
[07:00] <karljp> the motto of all good police forces
[07:00] <dequacker> This is the package that has the dependency problem, and causes transcode not to install. This code will install the package regardless of the dependency issues. So just go into synaptic, or apt-get transcode and dvdrip.
[07:00] <dequacker> Couldn't make the above work.
[07:01] <lunitik> karljp: can't ask questions if they kill you first  :/
[07:01] <moritz_> karljp, the only rule I follow is: if you shoot someone, make sure he's dead. It's easier for you in court than.
[07:01] <karljp> "I only wanted a coke!"
[07:01] <lunitik> moritz_: ha
[07:01] <karljp> moritz: that's a useful one :)
[07:01] <moritz_> karljp, it's called pop!
[07:01] <ryanblack> soda...
[07:01] <karljp> soft drink
[07:01] <Jimbob> (Or soda in some areas)
[07:01] <ryanblack> gotta love that brand name association..
[07:01] <ryanblack> I live in the southern us.. all soda is coke..
[07:02] <moritz_> yea. But that stuck.
[07:02] <karljp> well, I did want a coke, not some generic softdrink
[07:02] <ryanblack> I hate when people call it that..
[07:02] <cobb> I've updated to freezy and I've found a bug I think. Are there any channels I can report this in (I'm to lazy to use any bugzilla-like interfaces)?
[07:02] <ryanblack> sam's choice baby
[07:02] <ryanblack> !
[07:02] <seeker_> I can hear my voice through the speakers, but sound recorder woun't record my voice (and other people can't hear me on skype even though I can hear them and myself through the speaker)
[07:02] <moritz_> In germany if you order a coke they'll look queer at you. And beg your pardon...
[07:02] <lunitik> cobb: what is the bug?
[07:02] <seeker_> anyone know how I can fix that?
[07:02] <Choubaka> http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/04/11/ubuntu <- This is a good read.
[07:03] <karljp> in california, my accent made them look at me funny when I asked for a coke too, and I speak english nativly!
[07:03] <cobb> lunitik: xmms-flac makes xmms go: "*** glibc detected *** free(): invalid pointer: 0xb6e1d932 ***" and then die.
[07:03] <moritz_> karljp, I learned schools english. It got ruined completely in Wisconsin...
[07:03] <ryanblack> karljp: where from?
[07:03] <karljp> .au
[07:03] <lunitik> cobb: XMMS is not supported... no real point filing a bug on it  :/
[07:03] <ryanblack> ah
[07:03] <moritz_> aussie!
[07:03] <karljp> .is now.
[07:03] <ryanblack> Birmingham - al - usa here...
[07:03] <nickrud> seeker, you can try alsamixer and see if some obscure thing is muted
[07:03] <moritz_> .is?
[07:04] <karljp> up here in the north
[07:04] <cobb> lunitik: no, but when breezy goes stable shouldn't xmms work with xmms-flac?
[07:04] <karljp> about as far from .au as you can get :)
[07:04] <lunitik> cobb: its not supported... so it certainly wouldn't be a priority... now if Rhythmbox didn't work with FLAC...
[07:04] <moritz_> I wanted to visit .au all my life long...
[07:05] <karljp> you should, it's great
[07:05] <moritz_> gotta get somewhere down south...
[07:05] <karljp> ryan, I think I drove across al without stopping.
[07:05] <ryanblack> I don't doubt you...
[07:05] <ryanblack> I wouldn't stop either....
[07:05] <ryanblack> ha
[07:05] <moritz_> I've been to HongKong already... Beautiful... But I'm never going to go on a trip like that withough a girl again...
[07:05] <seeker_> nickrud: i unmuted everything and tried. still no record
[07:05] <karljp> actually, no I stopped for lunch in mobile.
[07:05] <karljp> Didn't stop in mississipi
[07:06] <lunitik> cobb: ps, you have libflac7 installed right?
[07:06] <ryanblack> no, really al is not that bad... just poor infrastructure.... and a few lame people..
[07:06] <ryanblack> beautiful settings though..
[07:06] <karljp> not enough rock for me :)
[07:06] <nickrud> seeker_, my mike is dead so I haven't tried recording under ubuntu, sorry I don't have any better suggestions :)
[07:06] <ryanblack> you clime/boulder?
[07:06] <ryanblack> *climb..
[07:06] <karljp> yeah
[07:06] <ryanblack> cool
[07:06] <karljp> west is best baby!
[07:06] <ryanblack> horse pens 40....
[07:06] <ryanblack> north of birmingham - awesome rocks
[07:07] <cobb> lunitik: yes, libflac7 is installed
[07:07] <karljp> yeah, I've heard about it
[07:07] <seeker_> thing is , I can hear myself through the speakers, but the volum monitor dosn't show anything
[07:07] <moritz_> I just need water and snow...
[07:07] <karljp> all the guys camped at the red were talking about it
[07:07] <moritz_> boarding is something I'd die for...
[07:07] <karljp> I need snow in the winter, but not where I live.
[07:07] <ryanblack> I used to live closer to it in a small town called ashville
[07:07] <karljp> northern california was good for that, nice and warm, snow a short drive away for boarding, and lots and lots of rock to climb on.
[07:07] <moritz_> dinner time...
[07:07] <ryanblack> I want to move north to be in a higher tech area...
[07:07] <karljp> pity it was in america
[07:08] <ryanblack> I am tired of slow expensive "broadband" here..
[07:08] <ryanblack> heh
[07:08] <karljp> lovely country though
[07:08] <ryanblack> so you would prefer to live elsewhere..?
[07:08] <karljp> I do live elsewhere :)
[07:08] <ryanblack> what about taxes etc
[07:08] <karljp> what about taxes?
[07:08] <ryanblack> where are you again?
[07:08] <karljp> I don't think taxes are really something that makes a great deal of difference at the end of the day.
[07:09] <lunitik> ryanblack: why the quotes? broadband is a type of signal... has nothing to do with the speed... its broadband even if you are only getting like 4kb/s out of it  :/
[07:09] <mikeco>  they do when you pay 32%
[07:09] <ryanblack> well if you are in a country where they tax the hell out of you...
[07:09] <karljp> if you stop thinking of it as money that is being taken form you, and just as money that you never have
[07:09] <karljp> it's take home pay, and purchasing power that matter
[07:09] <karljp> If I live somewhere with 80% tax, and my take home is more, I don't care what the tax rate is.
[07:09] <mikeco> less tax means more take home pay, and purchasing power.
[07:09] <Amaranth> I was told I'd get moderator access to my sub-forum on the forums and after two weeks I still don't have it.
[07:09] <ryanblack> lunitik: in the sense I meant I think it made sense ;-)
[07:09] <karljp> no, taxes and wages are independent
[07:10] <Amaranth> lunitik: EEEK! CLOWN!
[07:10] <karljp> if wages are fixed, then lower taxes mean more take home sure.
[07:10] <ryanblack> anything besides ppp dialup = broadband here..
[07:10] <mikeco> except that they're not
[07:10] <Jimbob> There is #politics, guys :-)
[07:10] <lunitik> Amaranth: Clowns are scary... but they apparently cheer some people up  :o
[07:10] <karljp> they're not fixed either though mikeco
[07:10] <lunitik> Amaranth: I think I've seen Killer Klowns too many times or something  :P
[07:10] <Amaranth> lunitik: Until they pull out a knife and stab you.
[07:10] <mikeco> look, i don't care the reason, or the country, it's not right for me to pay 32% of my income to tax.
[07:11] <Amaranth> btw, I have a co-developer for the menu editor now
[07:11] <ryanblack> hahah
[07:11] <Amaranth> so maybe it'll get released :)
[07:11] <karljp> how much should you pay?
[07:11] <karljp> 0?
[07:11] <mikeco> especially when it's spent on lying politicians
[07:11] <ryanblack> mikeco:  agreed
[07:11] <ryanblack> I am 15% bracket...
[07:11] <ryanblack> but I am poor ass hahahha
[07:11] <karljp> and then just have use charges for everything?
[07:11] <mikeco> 10% across the board.
[07:11] <mikeco> it works.
[07:11] <ryanblack> gotta love having 2 dependants...
[07:11] <ryanblack> I think a flat tax rate is fair...
[07:11] <ryanblack> but it would mean the poor had to pay more
[07:11] <mikeco> it works fiscally
[07:11] <lunitik> mikeco: things related to politics in any way should not be discussed in public
[07:12] <karljp> yes they should
[07:12] <ryanblack> because 10% across the board wouldn't be enough money
[07:12] <karljp> you can't pretend it doesn't exist lunitik
[07:12] <mikeco> ryan.
[07:12] <ryanblack> yes?
[07:12] <mikeco> 10% of a large number is a large number.
[07:12] <karljp> ryan: depends what services you think govt should provide :)
[07:12] <ryanblack> I understand
[07:12] <karljp> it might be enough, it might not be :)
[07:12] <lunitik> karljp: no... because everyone involved sees it their way... no one will agree... and it usually ends up bad
[07:12] <mikeco> you wouldn't pay tax unless you made enough
[07:12] <lunitik> Simular to religion
[07:12] <ryanblack> but they're (the middleclass and rich) are currently taxed much more
[07:12] <karljp> whether it ends up bad depends on the people involved
[07:12] <ryanblack> they'd love flat 10%
[07:13] <karljp> I don't think we've got anywhere bad here yet :)
[07:13] <ryanblack> ah
[07:13] <ryanblack> well it's sort of like that now
[07:13] <mikeco> and if the top 20% wage earners paid 10%, that would be more than enough\
[07:13] <karljp> and just because it "could" end up bad doens't mean you should never ever talk about it.
[07:13] <ryanblack> I don't make near enough as I "should" by govt standards
[07:13] <mikeco> being that only the top 5% pay the most now, in the states
[07:13] <mikeco> ryan, in that case, you most likely wouldn't pay tax
[07:13] <ryanblack> I love EIC hahahaha
[07:13] <karljp> mike: if you could actually make everyone actually pay their tax, it would probably work :)
[07:13] <flyingsquirrel54> ringmauer: you still there?
[07:13] <lunitik> karljp: sure it does... there is no point discussing someone when there is no chance of a result coming from the discussion...
[07:14] <ryanblack> I got all my fed and 80% state back plus a, man I love democrats, credit
[07:14] <karljp> there is a chance.
[07:14] <mikeco> the numbers figure out to be wage earners making 105,760. and change a year
[07:14] <karljp> if there's no chance, why not just have dictators,
[07:14] <ryanblack> lunitik:  to hear others opinions and for intellectual stimulation
[07:14] <karljp> cos it doesn't matter,
[07:14] <mikeco> ryanblack, dems didn't do that for ya
[07:15] <ryanblack> mikeco: how so.. the party seems tied to all the social service stuff etc..?
[07:15] <mikeco> seems. you said it not me
[07:15] <sic|work> morning, has anyone gotten internet explorer to run in wine on ubuntu?  I know I know IE sucks...but I have to have it for work for our timesheet software
[07:15] <ryanblack> sic|work: hahaa IE on *nix haahaha
[07:15] <lunitik> karljp: *shrug* we basically are a dictatorship in the US... nothing really is decided in public, all in the House, or directly by the president  :/
[07:15] <ryanblack> ah geeze...
[07:15] <mikeco> however, they block most changes to the irs tax laws that would benefit you.
[07:15] <nickrud> mikeco, earned income credit started under carter in the 70's
[07:15] <mikeco> in the 15% tax bracket
[07:15] <sic|work> ryanblack...hehehe I know...stinks
[07:15] <a_peck> how come evolution doesn't let me import csv contact files? and that gmail won't let me export contacts! they're mine!
[07:16] <ryanblack> sic|work: I am truly and deeply sorry...
[07:16] <a_peck> do you know I could convert a cvs file to vcard format?
[07:16] <lunitik> sic|work: www.codeweavers.com
[07:16] <mikeco> ryanblack, i don't think you should be paying tax.
[07:16] <ryanblack> I spend a lot of time putting firefox on xp boxes that I run across after people buy a mac from me..
[07:16] <karljp> sic: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=ie6
[07:16] <ryanblack> mikeco: I'll write you in for pres
[07:16] <ryanblack> :-D
[07:16] <mikeco> haha
[07:16] <mikeco> seriously.
[07:17] <ryanblack> "mikeco" and an ip addy for pres
[07:17] <ryanblack> hahahah
[07:17] <sic|work> karljp, thanks but frankscorner procedure wont' work in ubuntu for some odd reason
[07:17] <mikeco> the tax you pay, and anyone else not paying over 27% doesn't affect the economy on a grand scale
[07:17] <karljp> ahh, sorry, not tried it myself ;)
[07:17] <mikeco> as i stated , 10% of a lot is a lot. 10% of a little is a litte
[07:17] <mikeco> little, sorry
[07:17] <ryanblack> true
[07:18] <karljp> mike: so what you really need is the rich people to actually pay their taxes, instead of using a portion of their money to "protect" it
[07:18] <ryanblack> but then what is the incentive to earn more and better yourself when it is so sweet to be poorass
[07:18] <ryanblack> like me
[07:18] <ryanblack> :-D
[07:18] <mikeco> karljp, they do pay it. and pay plenty
[07:18] <karljp> so what's the problem?
[07:18] <mikeco> karljp, you're not listening. i'm saying the majority need not pay tax
[07:19] <karljp> ok.
[07:19] <mikeco> it's the minority and top wage earners that do
[07:19] <mikeco> and they make more than enough, and could pay only 10% and it works fiscally
[07:19] <karljp> so imagine your take home pay was identical
[07:19] <mikeco> completely, with no deficit
[07:19] <karljp> only you were being taxed 10%, instead of 30%
[07:19] <karljp> you'd be happier?
[07:19] <mikeco> take home would not be static.
[07:19] <mikeco> who the hell said that
[07:19] <lunitik> mikeco: that could never work... and it is hardly fair... just because they do well in life, they get raped for it?
[07:19] <ryanblack> I would tell my boss to pay me $1 below the cutoff
[07:20] <ryanblack> and take the rest of compensation as benefits like insurance etc..
[07:20] <ryanblack> hahaha
[07:20] <nickrud> mikeco, you hit the nail on the head, taxes are too hard on the wage earners, and too easy on the interest earners
[07:20] <mikeco> lunitik, uh, 10% is far less than 32%
[07:20] <karljp> all I'm saying is that the actual number of the tax isn't as relevant, you just need to stop thinking of gross pay as your money :)
[07:20] <lunitik> mikeco: with only the top money earners paying that? they wouldn't have the money to pay cops and politicians etc  :/
[07:20] <Nomikos> recommended channels for questions about shell?
[07:20] <mikeco> lunitik, i'd rather be raped at 10% than 32
[07:21] <mikeco> lunitik, do you understand what a top wage earner is
[07:21] <karljp> in theory here :)
[07:21] <mikeco> that goes all the way up to the billions
[07:21] <karljp> if you're talking in this channel,
[07:21] <nickrud> Nomikos, everyone's bored here, ask way :)
[07:21] <karljp> 99% sure, it's not you
[07:21] <Nomikos> having issues with backspace/delete working differently in bash and nano..
[07:21] <spo0nman> hmm, i have this in .ssh/config LocalForward 8090 cvs.server.address:22 .... i make the connection to the server ... now how do i do a cvs co?
[07:22] <karljp> speaking of actual problems,
[07:22] <karljp> has anyone built a clean 2.6.11 kernel?
[07:22] <mikeco> erm, bbiab, changing kernel
[07:22] <nickrud> Nomikos, mine work the same
[07:22] <lunitik> mikeco: still hardly enough... to pay for schools, road repairs, taxes go to a lot of things... it is high for a reason
[07:22] <karljp> the linux-source-2.6.11 package from ubuntu doens't build out of the box
[07:22] <karljp> dvb error.
[07:22] <Amaranth> It shouldn't be used, either.
[07:22] <Nomikos> both backspace and delete work ok in nano directly, but when I ssh in from another box and work in nano, only delete works, and backspace forward-deletes as well
[07:23] <ryanblack> MOOAHAHAHA tiger just came in WOOOOHOOO
[07:23] <Amaranth> It isn't 2.6.11, it's a snapshot of the kernel BK tree just before the 2.6.11 release.
[07:23] <karljp> ahh.
[07:23] <karljp> that might explain my problems with it.
[07:23] <karljp> it just looks like 2.6.11 then?
[07:23] <karljp> that suckz0rs
[07:24] <sandyeggoboy> need webcam installation help
[07:24] <Amaranth> 2.6.11 wasn't ready when hoary froze
[07:24] <Nomikos> did that make sense? :)
[07:24] <karljp> so that's 2.6.10 in hoary, that's fine.
[07:24] <Amaranth> This is why the "2.6.11" kernel is in universe. :)
[07:24] <karljp> but is the apt-get package for 2.6.11 safe to use?
[07:25] <sandyeggoboy> Its a little red rimmed thing that has "BTC" printed on it
[07:25] <Amaranth> Do _NOT_ use the 2.6.11 in universe unless it has some driver you desperately need that wasn't in 2.6.10.
[07:25] <karljp> good to know.
[07:25] <karljp> cos it doesn't work :)
[07:25] <nickrud> Nomikos, yeah, It's a configuration difference on the machine you're ssh'ing in from, compare the
[07:25] <karljp> I actually need a driver in the -ac patch,
[07:25] <Levande1> Is there no way to configure my ubuntuforums account to send me an email every time somebody has posted on a thread I've posted on?
[07:25] <karljp> but I'll try porting it to 2.6.10 instead of 2.6.11 then
[07:26] <Amaranth> And if you do use it, you need to boot with noinotify otherwise it'll freeze completely when GNOME starts.
[07:26] <karljp> that's what it did :)
[07:26] <nickrud> profile & bashrc 's, you'll find something about swapping backspace and delete
[07:26] <Amaranth> karljp: You're a good candidate for using it then.
[07:26] <karljp> I am?
[07:26] <karljp> I don't want to be.
[07:26] <Amaranth> Just edit grub's conf file so it boots with noinotify.
[07:26] <nickrud> It's been a while since I looked at it, so I don't remember exactly
[07:27] <nickrud> try googling swap backspace delete
[07:27] <Amaranth> Hehe, you need a driver from 2.6.11 that wasn't in 2.6.10.
[07:27] <Nomikos> nickrud: I'll look at those; in the ssh shell they both work fine though, only when i start nano it fails
[07:27] <Tomcat_> Ubuntu's xscreensaver *sometimes* doesn't ask for a password when resuming from suspend-to-disk/RAM. Any ideas? I have checked the ACPI scripts, but I can't detect the error...
[07:27] <karljp> no, it's not in 2.6.11 either yet :)
[07:27] <Amaranth> Ah.
[07:27] <karljp> it's only in the 2.6.11-ac
[07:27] <karljp> and I was trying to port it into my personal 2.6.11
[07:27] <karljp> what does inotify do?
[07:27] <Nomikos> nickrud: but I'll look into those files first, thanks :-)
[07:27] <Seveas> it b0rks your system karljp ;)
[07:27] <Amaranth> karljp: http://www.edoceo.com/creo/inotify/
[07:28] <Amaranth> karljp: Actually, http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml/inotify/README is a better read.
[07:28] <ifr> HI, all, trying to find a way to restart the net interfaces ; when I switch wifi nets eth0 can't seem to cope and I'd like to unload and restart all the drivers. I tried /etc/init.d/networking restart (noluck) and ifdown eth0 no luck any others?
[07:28] <ifr> Sorry, ubuntu 5.04
[07:29] <Amaranth> ifr: http://people.ubuntu.com/~thom/network-manager/
[07:30] <Levande1> Is there no way to set up my ubuntuforums account to send me an email every time somebody posts on a thread I've participated in?
[07:30] <ifr> Thanks amaranth
[07:30] <karljp> so I just add noinotify to the end of this line...
[07:30] <karljp> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11delkin root=/dev/hda3 ro quiet splash
[07:30] <Amaranth> Levande1: Subscribe to that thread. You can change your settings to auto-subscribe to ones you've posted in.
[07:30] <pont> anyone had any experiance with IP version 6
[07:30] <Amaranth> karljp: yeah
[07:31] <pont> I wish to use ping6 to ping myself but i can't seem to figure out how to pass it the IP
[07:31] <pont> Ifconfig outputs the following  inet6 addr: fe80::20a:95ff:feac:1778/64 Scope:Link
[07:31] <Amaranth> pont: Your local IPv6 address is ::1. This is like IPv4's 127.0.0.1
[07:32] <Amaranth> pont: That's ::1 without a period. :)
[07:32] <pont> Amaranth, Yea, but i wanna figure out how to ping like eth0
[07:32] <karljp> amaranth: excellent, time to reboot again and see if that atually works,  then I can try and debug my driver patch hackery
[07:32] <Levande1> Amaranth: don't see any settings in my ubuntuforums User CP to auto-subscribe to threads I've participated in.
[07:33] <Amaranth> pont: No clue.
[07:33] <pont> Amaranth, hmm
[07:33] <pont> Amaranth, O well
[07:33] <Levande1> Amaranth: I would think it would be under "Edit Options", but don't see anything there.
[07:33] <pont> tricky
[07:34] <Amaranth> Levande1: I have no idea where I turned that feature on at.
[07:34] <pont> Amaranth,  got it working :)
[07:34] <klaym> www.savetoby.com <- please help save toby :/
[07:34] <Levande1> Amaranth: okay, thanks for your help, finally found it, it was under "Edit Options"
[07:35] <pont>  ping6 -I eth0 fe80::20a:95ff:feac:1778 (didn't like the fact i didn't specify the interface
[07:35] <nickrud> pont, try googling ip6 ping howto
[07:35] <Amaranth> Levande1: It was?
[07:35] <pont> nickrud, got it working :0
[07:35] <pont> :)
[07:35] <Levande1> In the 2nd box, 2nd option
[07:36] <Amaranth> ah
[07:36] <Amaranth> kinda doesn't explain what it is
[07:36] <nickrud> :)
[07:36] <Nomikos> nickrud: found it, thanks for the hint :)
[07:36] <Levande1> Amaranth: 2nd box, 2nd option under "Edit Options" in left side navigation bar
[07:36] <nickrud> Nomikos, what was it?
[07:36] <Amaranth> Levande1: I found that, I was commenting on the title of that option.
[07:37] <bur[n] er> can anyone recommend a good apache access.log report generator?
[07:37] <Nomikos> nickrud: running OS X terminal, there's a windows settings prefs box, checked "Delete key sends backspace"
[07:37] <pont> etherreal isn't picking up my ping tho
[07:37] <Nomikos> nickrud: appearantly that means "backspace sends backspace" in my case :-)
[07:38] <nickrud> osx, no wonder :)
[07:38] <Nomikos> hey, nothing wrong with osx :D
[07:38] <Levande1> Amaranth: yeah, the description is to long, everybody scans the web, doesn't stop to read long blurb like that about a configuration setting, I think should be shorter.
[07:38] <mattgirv> Hmm, I have installed drivers following the guide for hoary (from the forums) but it is still Mesa accelerated :(
[07:39] <nickrud> well, if someone gave me a powerbook, I'd probably dual boot it ;)
[07:39] <Amaranth> Levande1: I'll sick mpt on it. ;)
[07:39] <Nomikos> makes sense
[07:40] <nickrud> actually, I'm thinking about the hp nx6110, hp says they're going to make ubuntu work out of the box with all the hardware
[07:40] <Atenea> hi
[07:40] <Manel> hola
[07:41] <Manel> alguno me puede ayudar en la instalacion de ubunto
[07:41] <nickrud> Manel, espana -> #ubuntu-es
[07:41] <Manel> okis
[07:42] <Manel> gracias
[07:42] <nickrud> de nada
[07:42] <necrojaz> Hi everyone.
[07:42] <necrojaz> Anyone here use rdesktop w/ their ubuntu?
[07:43] <mattgirv> hmm
[07:44] <necrojaz> I've used it on other distro's before, I'm having this real weird problem where L's are being displayed backwards heh.  The display of eveyrthing else is fine though... weird.  couldnt find anything on google and am wondering if its a common problem.
[07:44] <darksatanic> necrojaz: I've seen that on other systems.
[07:44] <darksatanic> It happens on Windows, too.
[07:45] <necrojaz> darksatanic: any clue what causes it?
[07:45] <darksatanic> Bug in the protocol maybe?
[07:45] <darksatanic> No idea.
[07:45] <darksatanic> I just live with it. It's not fatal.
[07:46] <necrojaz> maybe itll be fixed in the next release
[07:48] <mattgirv> Can anyone help me with getting my ATI acceleration working?
[07:48] <Burgundavia> mattgirv, have you read through www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriverHowTo
[07:49] <mattgirv> yes
[07:49] <Burgundavia> where are you stuck?>
[07:49] <mattgirv> well i have done all the things i should, but it is still Mesa
[07:49] <Levande1> Anybody have an opinion on the best dyndns client available in hoary?
[07:49] <Burgundavia> mattgirv, do you have an nforce2 boar?
[07:49] <mattgirv> yes,
[07:50] <mattgirv> but this hasnt been a problem before, (the card isnt onboard either)
[07:50] <Burgundavia> mattgirv, did you see the thing about those boards?
[07:50] <mattgirv> no?
[07:50] <FlyingSquirrel32> I know ubuntu is great for desktop and especially laptop, but how does it fare as a server?
[07:50] <Burgundavia> mattgirv, add Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" to your device section
[07:50] <Burgundavia> should work
[07:50] <Burgundavia> FlyingSquirrel32, it is debian at the core
[07:51] <mattgirv> its already there and set as no
[07:51] <Burgundavia> mattgirv, reboot
[07:51] <mattgirv> completely?
[07:51] <Burgundavia> yes
[07:51] <paulfox> hi all. does anyone know how to set up a wireless ad-hoc network? I've added wlan0 on my networked laptop, but the windows xp laptop can't see it
[07:51] <mattgirv> ok brb
[07:54] <mattgirv> Thanks Burgundavia :)
[07:54] <paulfox> is it possible to connect two laptops via their wireless cards? i dont see how i can set up ubuntu to let my windows laptop use it to connect to the internet
[07:54] <Burgundavia> mattgirv, did that get it?
[07:54] <mattgirv> btw does anyone here have the ubuntusetup.sh script?
[07:54] <mattgirv> Burgundavia, yup :)
[07:54] <Burgundavia> mattgirv, I wouldn't use it
[07:54] <mattgirv> why?
[07:54] <mattgirv> it has lots of good feedback
[07:54] <Burgundavia> never ever trust a script someone else has written
[07:55] <Burgundavia> and one size doesn't fit all
[07:55] <mattgirv> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646
[07:55] <Burgundavia> I have seen it
[07:55] <Burgundavia> mattgirv, do you need all of those things?
[07:55] <mattgirv> pretty much yeah
[07:55] <mattgirv> i thought it would save 5 or 10 minutes :p
[07:55] <Burgundavia> build-essential?
[07:55] <mattgirv> yup defo
[07:56] <Burgundavia> ok
[07:56] <Burgundavia> I prefer to do things by hand
[07:56] <Burgundavia> then I know what is happening
[07:56] <mattgirv> i dont see why build-essential isnt installed as default anyway
[07:56] <Burgundavia> mattgirv, becuase most people don't use it
[07:56] <mattgirv> :O
[07:56] <paulfox> so it's not possible then?
[07:56] <Amaranth> Having gcc on a system is a security issue.
[07:56] <Burgundavia> indeed
[07:56] <Burgundavia> a fairly large one
[07:56] <Amaranth> And it's not possible to fit all that stuff on the install CD.
[07:57] <mattgirv> hmm
[07:57] <Burgundavia> ubuntu is not aimed at us anyway
[07:57] <mattgirv> in that case, so is having synaptic a security risk
[07:57] <Burgundavia> it is aimed at mom and dad
[07:57] <Burgundavia> for the default install
[07:57] <nubbe> if u need gcc, i guess u can install it, right???
[07:57] <Burgundavia> because, if you need to compile something, you can get it
[07:57] <fsapo> hi there.. anyone here could help me with some dvd stuff? i just bought a dvd burner and i m a little lost
[07:57] <Dave2|Laptop> I'm not quite sure how having gcc is a security issue
[07:58] <Vorik> hi!
[07:58] <Burgundavia> fsapo, should just burn ala a cd burner
[07:58] <mattgirv> yeah well only if you didnt know how permissions worked maybe it would be
[07:58] <Amaranth> mattgirv: If you have gcc installed and someone get's access to a non-previleged user account they can compile and run a privilege escalation program.
[07:58] <Burgundavia> fsapo, for playback read www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:58] <fsapo> Burgundavia, no.. playback is fine
[07:58] <fsapo> Burgundavia, i want to make some "backups" :)
[07:59] <Dave2|Laptop> Amaranth, or they can compile it elsewhere, and copy it on manually?
[07:59] <fsapo> Burgundavia, and if possible convert some xvid and divx movies to dvd
[07:59] <Dave2|Laptop> Or they can get GCC binaries?
[07:59] <Amaranth> Dave2|Laptop: No guarantee it'll run.
[07:59] <Burgundavia> fsapo, there are ways, I don't know how mature
[07:59] <k4rl> anyone know why ndiswrapper would fail when I move from 2.6.10 to 2.6.11?
[07:59] <fsapo> Burgundavia, i m trying to install some dvd tools but it says "depends on transconder"
[07:59] <Amaranth> Dave2|Laptop: You might have a different version of a library that they used.
[08:00] <P2OG> dvd::rip
[08:00] <P2OG> ?
[08:00] <nubbe> I want mirc, buuhuhuuhhhh
[08:00] <Burgundavia> fsapo, have you enabled multi/universe?
[08:00] <nubbe> seriously
[08:00] <k4rl> amaranth: noinotify was definitely the key, but ndiswrapper complains about version problems...
[08:00] <Dave2|Laptop> In which case you can check versions and make your build env the same
[08:00] <k4rl> ndiswrapper: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module
[08:00] <fsapo> Burgundavia, i think so.. let me see
[08:00] <Amaranth> nubbe: Why do you want that piece of crap? :)
[08:00] <Dave2|Laptop> If someone's going to be using exploit code, having gcc installed isn't really too much of an enabler
[08:00] <Amaranth> k4rl: Never used it.
[08:00] <k4rl> fair enough
[08:00] <k4rl> anyone else know what you need to do when you change kernels?
[08:01] <Burgundavia> Dave2|Laptop, security is holistic. Every step you can take to mitigate the danger is going to help
[08:01] <k4rl> do I need to rebuild ndiswrapper itself or something?
[08:01] <Amaranth> Dave2|Laptop: It's an enabler though. That'd be like saying there is no point in locking your door because someone can get it through the window.
[08:01] <Burgundavia> k4rl, , nope, should work
[08:01] <nubbe> because it's got prefs that u can get to, and no fucked up windows popping up left and rigt ( like file receive list)
[08:01] <Dave2|Laptop> Burgundavia, I just can't see the existance of GCC having much impact
[08:01] <sono_> P2OG, have you checked the "transcoder" options?
[08:01] <fsapo> Burgundavia, yes its enabled but it cant find the transcoder dependencies
[08:01] <muntz> Oi lads.
[08:01] <Burgundavia> Dave2|Laptop, because every program is a security risk, and gcc is fairly big one and is not neccessary for most deskop installs
[08:01] <fsapo> Burgundavia, transcode*
[08:01] <Amaranth> fsapo: There is a libvorbis version conflict that causes transcoder to be uninstallable.
[08:01] <k4rl> burgundavia: doh!
[08:01] <Amaranth> err, transcode
[08:02] <k4rl> guess it's something with 2.6.11 being quirky for ubuntu then.
[08:02] <sono_> I am just compiling transcoder fsapo
[08:02] <k4rl> or perhaps that it expected inotify, whicih has been turned off!
[08:02] <Burgundavia> fsapo, might only be in marilliat
[08:02] <muntz> Mplayer said, "Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts."
[08:02] <nubbe> Amaranth, u have to grab the mouse and click because they got no assigned keys to accept, for example
[08:02] <sono_> I am solvint the dependency problem this way fsapo:
[08:02] <muntz> What script would be best?
[08:02] <Amaranth> nubbe: To accept what?
[08:02] <muntz> make an rc.local ?
[08:02] <Amaranth> nubbe: Who has no assigned keys?
[08:03] <nubbe> Amaranth, just an example, dcc
[08:03] <sono_> Its not the best way, but I hope it works: right now, I am compiling Mplayer; it will create the missing .so's
[08:03] <Amaranth> nubbe: Ah, I don't use dcc.
[08:03] <Amaranth> nubbe: DCC is worthless most of the time unless you're doing illegal things.
[08:03] <fsapo> sono_, how?
[08:03] <Amaranth> fsapo: That's a bad way, let me find the fix.
[08:04] <muntz> The whole "lack of working movie player" is what I'd call a show stopper.
[08:04] <nubbe> Amaranth, no place like irc to get musicvids, and that may be illageal but I don't feel too guilty
[08:04] <sono_> as I said, fsapo, I am right now, compiling mplayer
[08:04] <muntz> Why the great faith in totem, I wonder.
[08:04] <sono_> that will end up with the missing .so's fsapo
[08:05] <nickrud> muntz, if you want to add an rc.local, use the /etc/init.d/skeleton as a template, and use update-rc.d to create links
[08:05] <sono_> after that, I am planning to compile transcoder, with the correspondent dependencies
[08:05] <fsapo> sono_, its requiring some packages to install but i cant find it in the repositories =/
[08:05] <Amaranth> fsapo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=129617&postcount=5
[08:05] <nubbe> Amaranth, that wasn't the point tho, the prefs in x-chat is so barebones it's almost useless, i don't doubt u can change it exactly like u want it, but I can't
[08:05] <k4rl> and the source says yes! ndiswrapper uses inotify, so no ndiswrapper on 2.6.11 from ubuntu
[08:05] <mattgirv> What was that rewrite of the X-Chat frontend
[08:06] <mattgirv> which was GTK2 based.
[08:06] <fsapo> Amaranth, let me see...
[08:06] <sono_> I have tried like 4 different reps fsapo, without finding a neat deb package for Hoary, with those  dependencies
[08:06] <Amaranth> brb
[08:06] <fsapo> sono_, =[
[08:06] <pont> hey is there anyway i can make it so synaptic dosn't ask for the cd's
[08:06] <JoKeR``> Hi
[08:06] <sono_> so no I quit the binary's search, and ended up compiling it from scrach fsapo
[08:06] <mattgirv> pont: remove the repository that says Ubuntu Hoary 5.04 CD
[08:06] <fsapo> sono_, i just want some tools to copy dvds and convert xvid to dvd
[08:06] <SeamusLP> pont:  Remove those sources from your repositories
[08:07] <mattgirv> or something like that
[08:07] <nickrud> pont, comment out the cdrom line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:07] <sono_> fsapo: im not pretty sure my method will work now though...
[08:07] <drcodedd2> hi all
[08:07] <pont> ok
[08:07] <drcodedd2> whats iup
[08:07] <drcodedd2> u
[08:07] <drcodedd2> Any one u
[08:07] <drcodedd2> p
[08:07] <drcodedd2> up
[08:07] <drcodedd2> I need some help with ubnto
[08:07] <sono_> fsapo: you are at the right path friend... transcoder's or mencoder's solutions are the best for that
[08:07] <SeamusLP> pont:  The easiest way to do this is probably in synaptic, just remove the cdrom repository under settings -> repositories
[08:07] <drcodedd2> 1. can I install only console mode without gnome?
[08:07] <sono_> fsapo: the problem is that Hoary has never had any kind of installable package for those
[08:07] <Amaranth> sorry, was testing something
[08:08] <thenuke> drcodedd2: sure.
[08:08] <Jurku> mattgirv: maybe http://xchat-gnome.navi.cx ?
[08:08] <nickrud> 1. server mode install
[08:08] <sono_> I always compile mplayer/mencoder since Warty
[08:08] <Amaranth> drcodedd2: At the install prompt where you normally just hit enter type in "server" and hit enter.
[08:08] <drcodedd2> I can chose server mode install
[08:08] <drcodedd2> k
[08:08] <fsapo> Amaranth, thanx for that link.. i ll try doing it
[08:08] <pont> SeamusLP, Sounds user frendly
[08:08] <moritz_> where are the amd64 ubuntu sources?
[08:08] <fsapo> sono_, thanx.. i ll try installing some stuff i dont want to install windows here just to burn dvds.. windows sux
[08:08] <Amaranth> moritz_: apt-get source <package>
[08:08] <SeamusLP> Amaranth:  go1dfish has a test in 30 minutes, he hasn't been to class since the last test, he hasn't studied, and he's currently asleep.  I blame you guys :P
[08:09] <moritz_> Amaranth, nah - the packages for amd64?
[08:09] <Amaranth> SeamusLP: lmao
[08:09] <Amaranth> moritz_: source for amd64 packages is the same as source for x86 and ppc packages.
[08:10] <wildfire6> Am using Hoary on a Mac PowerBook. After install all is working fine but it is not finding the wireless LAN connection to the net, whereas on the previous OS release it did so automatically. What must I do?
[08:10] <Amaranth> SeamusLP: I'll ban him from #pymusique if he fails. :D
[08:10] <WeirdAl> Guys! Anyone know about support for a ... er... "Hauppauge WinTV Primio FM"?
[08:10] <WeirdAl> It's not mine so I'm all wtf here.
[08:10] <Amaranth> WeirdAl: Never heard of it.
[08:10] <moritz_> Amaranth, I ment the sources.list...
[08:10] <WeirdAl> o
[08:10] <pont> anything I need to configure to start ssh ?
[08:10] <SeamusLP> Amaranth:  Heh he won't, it's just a trivial 100 level astronomy class.
[08:10] <Amaranth> moritz_: Same thing.
[08:10] <moritz_> k
[08:10] <WeirdAl> I've discovered that WinTV doesn't work and WinTV Express does with tweaking.
[08:11] <pont> root@cafebabe:/home/pont/NPS Assignment # /etc/init.d/ssh start
[08:11] <pont>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[08:12] <Zen> hey everyone?
[08:12] <WeirdAl> IT's his. Tell him!
[08:13] <pont> so should sshd just work when i install it ?
[08:13] <Zen> yes
[08:13] <WeirdAl> Zen I've had one "Never heard of it" and no one else knows...
[08:13] <WeirdAl> I think you should not buy obscure hardware ever again.
[08:13] <Insom> hi all
[08:13] <Zen> damn it
[08:13] <Zen> tis a shame
[08:13] <Amaranth> pont: Check /var/log/messages and /var/log/sshd (if it exists, probably won't)
[08:13] <Insom> can anyone recomend me some kind of file manager similar to gentoo but easier to use?
[08:14] <muntz> gentoo is a file manager?
[08:14] <PacoBCN> Insome, sure you checked the browser mode of Nautilus?
[08:14] <Insom> isn't it?
[08:14] <Insom> nautilus sucks
[08:14] <nubbe> How do I turn off quit/join msges in x-chat?
[08:14] <PacoBCN> Insom, sorry?
[08:14] <muntz> Gentoo is a Linux.
[08:14] <icebalm> Insom: nautilus does not suck
[08:14] <drcodedd2> after I install wine and install ms software, It seems that wine dosnt make shourtcut in GNOME , any idea why?
[08:14] <Insom> im looking for something total commander kind of thing
[08:14] <Amaranth> Gentoo is a filemanager too
[08:14] <chazwurth> muntz: There's also a file manager named Gentoo.
[08:14] <chazwurth> muntz: Unrelated as far as I know.
[08:14] <icebalm> muntz: gentoo is a linux distribution
[08:14] <PacoBCN> Insom, first, Gentoo is a Distribution, second Nautilus doesn't suck
[08:15] <maximaus> Insom: I LOVE emelfm--it's a commander type thing.
[08:15] <muntz> That's just wrong. Morally.
[08:15] <WeirdAl> Zen, mio suggesto thato youo (sorry) ask again later on in case other people turn up who know
[08:15] <maximaus> apt-gettable and pretty small
[08:15] <Insom> tnx max
[08:15] <wildfire6> Am using Hoary on a Mac PowerBook. After install all is working fine but it is not finding the wireless LAN connection to the net, whereas on the previous OS release it did so automatically. What must I do?
[08:16] <nickrud> Insom, have you ever looked at midnight commander? (mc)
[08:16] <Insom> i have
[08:16] <maximaus> PacoBCN, Gentoo is a file manager as well: http://www.obsession.se/gentoo/
[08:17] <Insom> nick, just got some trouble trying to get it up and running
[08:17] <cao30> i keep getting a gnome-panel crash everytime I launch the "run application" dialog, any help?
[08:17] <nickrud> Insom, I kinda came late into this, get what up and running?
[08:17] <Insom> midnight commander
[08:17] <nickrud> oh :)
[08:17] <k-dog> Can ubuntu sources be referenced as ftp:// ?
[08:18] <WeirdAl> yes
[08:18] <k-dog> WeirdAl: Thanks.
[08:18] <WeirdAl> :-)
[08:18] <maximaus> Insom, why not just try something similar, like gnome-commander, emelfm, gentoo, et. all...
[08:18] <Insom> emelfm looks interesting
[08:18] <cyphase> cao30: don't launch the "run application" dialog
[08:18] <cyphase> cao30: ;)
[08:18] <Insom> gentoo is to complicated for me to work with... all those buttons... bah
[08:19] <Insom> i just downloaded emelfm and it looks promissing
[08:19] <cao30> cyphase: sure, i just installed mini-commander ;-)
[08:19] <Zen> One last check.. Nobody know if WinTV Primio Fm works on linux?
[08:19] <maximaus> Insom, honestly the thing that sold me on emelfm are the buttons in the middle--dumb maybe, but makes it easier for me, a total screw-up. LoL
[08:19] <wildfire6> In Gnome what section deals with the internet connectivity? I am unable to make a connection to my broadband LAN from Ubuntu. thx
[08:19] <chazwurth> Zen: I've never even heard of it, sorry :) Does google yield anything?
[08:19] <cao30> system->administration->networking
[08:19] <Insom> maximus.. it looks easy to use
[08:20] <k4rl> what's the easiest way of confirming tha tI don't have an ISA bus?
[08:20] <oscarh> evening!
[08:20] <muntz> totem is an absolute disaster
[08:20] <Amaranth> wildfire6: System->Administration->Networking
[08:20] <oscarh> good even :)
[08:20] <k4rl> I've got a laptop, andit's modern, is it safe to assume that it simply doesn't have an isa bus, not even some secret internal one?
[08:20] <Amaranth> err, someone beat me to it
[08:20] <ztonzy> oscarh, hey...there's a swedish channel too :)
[08:20] <Amaranth> the join flood confused me
[08:20] <Insom> on win i use just total commander and nothing else.. so i deperatly need something simmilar on my ubuntu
[08:20] <ztonzy> oscarh, #ubuntu.se
[08:20] <tup34> help me
[08:20] <cao30> Insom: isn't "Midnight Commander" enough?
[08:20] <mikeco> k4rl, it probably has one, put there by mi6
[08:20] <oscarh> ztonzy, u dont like me here? :P
[08:21] <Insom> cao.. not realz
[08:21] <Insom> z = y
[08:21] <cao30> Insom: try "Krusader", if you're running a KDEified ubuntu
[08:21] <ztonzy> oscarh, of course...just a tip :) would use some more users in there ;)
[08:21] <oscarh> so u r there :)
[08:21] <ztonzy> we could*
[08:21] <oscarh> i see
[08:21] <maximaus> cao30, I was just about to mention that too, used to love it when I used KDE
[08:21] <WeirdAl> Zen, I think you should go for a long Google wossname and if you still can't find anything it's a fair bet it doesn't.
[08:21] <Insom> cao.. im runnin gnome
[08:21] <Amaranth> muntz: What's wrong with totem?
[08:21] <maximaus> krusader is a good ftp client too.
[08:21] <Manel> bye
[08:22] <wildfire6> Amaranth: So I would add access to my wireless LAN there or is there a way it can auto-find it? I'm confused because with the previous release of Ubuntu it automatically found my connection.
[08:22] <tup34> cant logon to cups, any ideas
[08:22] <Insom> max, is it?
[08:22] <cao30> Insom: mmmm... if you don't mind getting the whole KDE shebang, you can run  'krusader' on top  of gnome too
[08:22] <Insom> i need something like that!
[08:22] <WeirdAl> I think I might email Hauppauge and ask them what they're playing at with this silly idea of creating drivers for the most widespread and noob-friendly OS ever.
[08:22] <oscarh> ztonzy "bookmarked"
[08:22] <ztonzy> oscarh, ;)
[08:22] <Amaranth> wildfire6: No clue, I don't have a wireless network.
[08:22] <oscarh> this place is getting crowded!
[08:22] <Echylo> lel
[08:22] <Insom> i use to love that ftp managin option on total commander
[08:22] <maximaus> cao30, you don't have to get all of KDE to install it. Around 30mb I think (wild guess)
[08:23] <Echylo> they should make #ubuntu-noob & #ubuntu-advanced , I'll go to the noob channel :p
[08:23] <maximaus> worth getting the libs anyway, and then you can use stuff like K3b. :)
[08:23] <Insom> max.. to much to download on dile up...
[08:23] <maximaus> I'm on dail up too, just do big d/l's at night.
[08:23] <nickrud> Insom, do you have access to a network that's fast (windows doesn't matter)
[08:23] <_ningo> yep
[08:23] <_ningo> i prefer mc though
[08:23] <_ningo> Insom, you tried lfm already?
[08:24] <Insom> nickurd... nope... :(
[08:24] <Insom> lfm?
[08:24] <tup34> root password does not work on kde or gnome admin gui's
[08:24] <nickrud> Insom, no friends, nobody :)
[08:24] <tup34> any ideas
[08:24] <tup34> anyone
[08:24] <k4rl> how can I work out exactly what sound card module I need?
[08:24] <Amaranth> tup34: There is no root, use your user password.
[08:24] <Insom> i could leach someones brad band, why?
[08:24] <k4rl> I've got sound working, and am building a new kernel, and I don't want to build modules for every card under the sun
[08:24] <nickrud> install apt-zip
[08:24] <Insom> nickrud, i could leach someones broad band, why?
[08:24] <tup34> ok will give it a go
[08:25] <Sabator> Does anyone know where I can get a .deb of CVS Cedega?
[08:25] <nickrud> apt-zip will be your best friend :)
[08:25] <dr_willis> k40z,  find what card ya got. or what modules are loaded now when the thing is working. and/or check alsa's homepage
[08:25] <Insom> nickrud, apt-zip? what's it for?
[08:25] <PacoBCN> Sabator, in amule you can even get the non free version
[08:25] <Insom> kind of new in linux comunity
[08:25] <Sabator> amule?
[08:26] <Moe|Joe> hi people
[08:26] <Sabator> explain this amule
[08:26] <Moe|Joe> need help with xchat
[08:26] <nickrud> select files on ubuntu, get a script you can run on some elses machine to download the debs, and take them back to your machine.
[08:26] <Moe|Joe> wont connect to any server..
[08:26] <nickrud> works like a charm
[08:26] <Sabator> you're connected to this one aren't you Moe|Joe
[08:26] <nickrud> I lived on a 3k line for a year, I couldn't have run debian without it
[08:26] <Moe|Joe> yeh throu my windows comp
[08:27] <Sabator> kthx
[08:27] <Sabator> try apt-get update
[08:27] <mikeco> uh
[08:27] <Sabator> are you on Warty?
[08:27] <Sabator> you might need to update Xchat if you're on warty
[08:27] <JoKeR``> I forgot to make a swap partition during the install, can i make it after the installation ?
[08:27] <Moe|Joe> yeh im on warty
[08:27] <Moe|Joe> coz i cant get hoary to install on my laptop
[08:28] <dr_willis> you could alwyas try some other irc clients to get help here as you work on the xchat issue.
[08:28] <Sabator> moe|joe
[08:28] <Moe|Joe> u got the apt-get command to update my xchat?
[08:28] <Sabator> apt-get update
[08:28] <Sabator> that updates all packages
[08:28] <Sabator> I think
[08:29] <Sabator> in the meantime, Moe|Joe
[08:29] <Sabator> get on Warty, and do apt-get install bitchx
[08:29] <Moe|Joe> bitchx commandline?
[08:29] <Amaranth> no, not bitchx
[08:29] <Amaranth> irssi
[08:29] <Sabator> bitchx is a good terminal based IRC client
[08:29] <Sabator> I love it
[08:29] <duress> irssi is a good console irc client
[08:29] <Moe|Joe> i wud prefer a GUI if possible
[08:29] <transgress> irssi
[08:29] <transgress> ksirc
[08:29] <Sabator> erm
[08:29] <duress> for gui i find xchat to be nice
[08:29] <Sabator> GUI
[08:29] <tup34> nope, didnt work
[08:29] <transgress> i use ksirc for a gui
[08:30] <Sabator> okay
[08:30] <transgress> and irssi for life
[08:30] <tup34> got child process terminated
[08:30] <Sabator> is it apt-get install ksirc?
[08:30] <transgress> ummm actually ksirc is probably part of the kde package
[08:30] <transgress> heh
[08:30] <Sabator> gg wp
[08:30] <transgress> if you don't have it you are better off with xchat
[08:30] <Sabator> his xchat is busted
[08:30] <transgress> oh
[08:30] <Moe|Joe> hmm
[08:30] <Sabator> just go with bitchx
[08:30] <Sabator> it will work
[08:31] <transgress> you can try kvirc
[08:31] <transgress> a lot of people like it
[08:31] <tup34> also why do i have to go through gnome to logon to cups server
[08:31] <transgress> but it feels like mirc to me and i loathe it
[08:31] <maltje> I need some help with totemplayer
[08:31] <Sabator> USE TOTEMPLAYER: DO NOT
[08:31] <transgress> maltje: whatcha need?
[08:31] <Sabator> TOTEMPLAYER IS BAD AND EVIL
[08:31] <Moe|Joe> hang on
[08:31] <maltje> It won't play mp3's
[08:31] <Burgundavia> Sabator, not it is not
[08:31] <nickrud> Moe|Joe, you could try removing .xchat and apt-get install --reinstall xchat
[08:31] <transgress> Sabator: you done now?
[08:32] <maltje> i wrote a lot
[08:32] <Sabator> on the 7th day, the lord said "apt-get install mplayer"
[08:32] <Moe|Joe> tink my lan wen down...
[08:32] <Moe|Joe> lemme jus reboot my laptop
[08:32] <maltje> I had  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad libdvdcss w32codecs lame totem-xine xmms
[08:32] <tup34> why does my printer not work
[08:33] <maltje> this won't work
[08:33] <maltje> where do I find gstreamer????
[08:33] <] BreliC[> yeah, but the mplayer through apt-get is crap... doesn't install mencoder and configuring and compiling it yourself is better in this case
[08:33] <tup34> why cant i logon to cups?, its driving me up the wall
[08:33] <maltje> but I'm a newbie
[08:33] <maltje> I don't understand compiling yet
[08:33] <nickrud> tup34, they disabled it :)
[08:34] <nickrud> gotta use the gnome print setup, or find out how to enable :631
[08:34] <tup34> how do i reinstate it?
[08:34] <tup34> i need it
[08:34] <nickrud> haven't got around to it yet
[08:34] <plukkie> tup34, adduser cupsys shadow
[08:35] <] BreliC[> maltje, is gstreamer not in your apt-get repos?
[08:35] <plukkie> with sudo
[08:35] <nickrud> ohhhh
[08:35] <Hablandocontigo> I'm having a BIOS error in my dmesg "[drm:i810_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 1294 using kernel context 0" and I can't get direct rendering for that device. What can I do?
[08:35] <maltje> ???
[08:35] <plukkie> that will allow cupsys to read the password file so it can authenticate
[08:35] <maltje> i have installed it
[08:35] <icebalm> Hablandocontigo: get a real video card?
[08:35] <nickrud> thanks
[08:35] <maltje> with synaptic
[08:36] <maltje> but not the 8
[08:36] <Hablandocontigo> icebalm: yeah... haha; but this one has worked and worked fine before
[08:36] <cyklus> Is there any wireless card management package in Ubuntu? ...ie somehting that will auto detect your location and connect you without having to manually use iwlist and iwconfig?
[08:36] <Hablandocontigo> icebalm: 50+ fps on q3a
[08:36] <transgress> Hablandocontigo: might try custom compiling a kernel, but that video card doesn't work real well in windows... much less linux with a third party driver.
[08:36] <tup34> cheers plukkie
[08:37] <icebalm> Hablandocontigo: ouch, that's slow :/
[08:37] <] BreliC[> maltje, did you enable multiverse and universe for repositories?
[08:37] <nickrud> maltje, you have totem-gstreamer installed?
[08:37] <maltje> y
[08:37] <Remenic> is there a wmv plugin for gstreamer yet?
[08:37] <nickrud> and stuff don't play?
[08:37] <Hablandocontigo> transgress: Well, I have had it work on another Linux system I mean. It might be the kernel then.
[08:38] <nickrud> I mean, a lot of stuff?
[08:38] <maltje> i need codecs
[08:38] <Remenic> and install w32codecs too
[08:38] <transgress> why is the ubuntulinux.org security ticket or whatever not up to date?
[08:38] <transgress> that bothers me
[08:38] <WeirdAl> Is there a way of getting Gnome to flash panel icon things when the window has activity?
[08:38] <nickrud> link the codecs in /usr/lib/win32 into ~/.gnome2/totem-addons
[08:39] <maltje> where do i find totem-xine?
[08:39] <WeirdAl> e.g. when someone IMs you and you have three IMs open and you wanna know who it was
[08:39] <FlyingSquirrel32> maltje: check out ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:39] <HulaBeagleSeb> hey all
[08:39] <HulaBeagleSeb> i've got a usb mounting problem on ubuntu hoary hedgehog
[08:39] <HulaBeagleSeb> i put a memory stick it, it mounts and goes into computer://
[08:39] <maltje> i have a go,but a lot looks like chinees for me
[08:39] <FlyingSquirrel32> maltje: That's a great site for noobs.
[08:39] <tup34> still dont work
[08:39] <HulaBeagleSeb> but it won't dismount
[08:39] <maltje> k thnx
[08:39] <nickrud> step, by step, works
[08:40] <HulaBeagleSeb> i get this rude error:
[08:40] <HulaBeagleSeb> umount :/media/usbdisk: device is busy
[08:40] <HulaBeagleSeb> umount :/media/usbdisk: device is busy
[08:40] <FLeiXiuS> WeirdAl: So windows like :-P..
[08:40] <HulaBeagleSeb> Error: umount failed
[08:40] <HulaBeagleSeb> any idea?
[08:40] <WeirdAl> But so handy, FLeiXiuS
[08:40] <Remenic> HulaBeagleSeb: maybe the device is busy
[08:40] <HulaBeagleSeb> it ain't
[08:40] <nickrud> HulaBeagleSeb, lsof | grep /media/usbdisk
[08:40] <Remenic> HulaBeagleSeb: did you access it with a shell?
[08:40] <FLeiXiuS> WeirdAl: Are you using gaim?
[08:41] <WeirdAl> Yep
[08:41] <HulaBeagleSeb> Remenic: no
[08:41] <HulaBeagleSeb> nickrud: gam_serve  7790     spayne   66r      DIR        8,1   22016         1 /media/usbdisk
[08:41] <Saint33> hi folks...
[08:41] <FLeiXiuS> WeirdAl: http://guifications.sourceforge.net/ thats the closests your going to get
[08:41] <nickrud> ah, the dreaded gam_server
[08:41] <Saint33> can someone help me with an ndiswrapper problem plz ?
[08:41] <nickrud> my usual fix is killall nautilus, and then dismount :)
[08:41] <FLeiXiuS> WeirdAl: Or you could have it mark the window with something of your choice, liek perhaps an asterisk..
[08:42] <HulaBeagleSeb> nickrud: can you expand?
[08:42] <maltje> they always talking about gstreamer0.8 but i can't find it
[08:42] <HulaBeagleSeb> nickrud: tried that, didn't work
[08:42] <nickrud> gam_server is a file change monitor used by nautilus. It's how nautilus can tell if a folder has changed, and update it
[08:42] <wezzer-> have you enabled universe ?
[08:42] <wezzer-> repository
[08:42] <maltje> try later c u
[08:43] <HulaBeagleSeb> nickrud: what causes this problem?
[08:43] <WeirdAl> FLeiXiuS, how do I do that last one?
[08:43] <nickrud> imperfect programming :)
[08:43] <WeirdAl> The asterisk thing.
[08:43] <HulaBeagleSeb> nickrud: so what can i do then?
[08:43] <FLeiXiuS> WeirdAl: It's in the plguins menu for gaim.  GAIM Notifications I believe
[08:43] <WeirdAl> oo
[08:44] <nickrud> HulaBeagleSeb, first, make sure you have no nautilus folder open to the usb, that non of your terminals are open to
[08:44] <HulaBeagleSeb> o
[08:44] <HulaBeagleSeb> k
[08:44] <nickrud> the usb, and if that doesn't work, killall nautils
[08:44] <HulaBeagleSeb> i only have gamin open
[08:44] <HulaBeagleSeb> sorry gaim open
[08:44] <HulaBeagleSeb> then what?
[08:44] <WeirdAl> Thanks FLeiXiuS! :-)
[08:45] <nickrud> killall nautilus :)
[08:45] <HulaBeagleSeb> and then?
[08:45] <nickrud> I hit alt F2, and enter it there
[08:45] <HulaBeagleSeb> nickrud: enter what?
[08:46] <nickrud> 'killall nautilus'
[08:46] <] BreliC[> WeirdAl, aMSN does just what you're talking about... will flash a taskbar item when you have a new message.. http://amsn.sf.net
[08:46] <Insom> how do i add lounchers to the applications menu?
[08:46] <nickrud> you can then do the unmount
[08:46] <HulaBeagleSeb> then try and dismount>
[08:46] <Insom> how do i add lounchers to the gnome applications menu ?
[08:47] <Amaranth> Insom: You need to edit menu entries by hand or get a menu editor.
[08:47] <HulaBeagleSeb> nickrud: same error
[08:47] <Insom> amaranth: how do i do it by hand?
[08:47] <Amaranth> Insom: The only editor I know of that's even usable on hoary is mine. :) Check out http://ubuntuguide.org
[08:47] <nickrud> more drastic, killall gam_server.
[08:47] <tup34> according to gnome the printer is printing, but it isnt
[08:48] <Amaranth> Insom: http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html <--read that and then you can create entries by hand :)
[08:48] <HulaBeagleSeb> nickrud: it worked after the killing gam_server
[08:48] <HulaBeagleSeb> nickrud: is there a fix for this?
[08:48] <wezzer-> what is gam_server btw?
[08:49] <nickrud> not really, and actually gam_server is better than the file change monitor they used to use, fam.
[08:49] <Insom> im sure there is an easyer way
[08:49] <HulaBeagleSeb> nickrud: any ideas on a  quicker way?
[08:49] <Insom> ive done it before but forgot how to
[08:49] <Insom> sorry hula
[08:50] <slask3n> Hi =) How do I connect to a computer trough Remote Desktop across internet? i am trying to help a buddy, but i get connection refused while "vncviewer <his IP>"
[08:50] <Insom> i was talking to amaranth
[08:50] <Amaranth> Insom: There was an easier way in 2.8, not in 2.10
[08:50] <Insom> i am useing 2.8
[08:50] <nickrud> HulaBeagleSeb, just killall gam_server from the get go.
[08:50] <Tomcat_> slask3n: More of a VNC question than a Java question... you need to make sure he has the port opened on his firewall/NAT.
[08:50] <nickrud> then killall nautilus, to restart the gam_server
[08:51] <nickrud> only way I know
[08:51] <transgress> hehe ima call up the number they gave me for my computer protection plan and see if it is still covered with linux on the box
[08:52] <slask3n> Tomcat: Java question? Last I checked this was generally about Ubuntu, or am I wrong? but anyway, what port is it? it says port 0 in the description but that dont make any sense...
[08:52] <Insom> amaranth: how was it done on 2.8?
[08:52] <HulaBeagleSeb> gamin seems to cause loads of problems
[08:52] <Tomcat_> Argh goddamit :)
[08:53] <Amaranth> Insom: By pointing nautilus to applications:///
[08:53] <dantheman> does anyone here use an hp printer?
[08:53] <Tomcat_> slask3n: I'm so sorry... I wasn't looking at the channel tabs and thought this was #java on QuakeNet...
[08:53] <Insom> tnx
[08:53] <Tomcat_> slask3n: But the answer is still right. Did he open the port?
[08:53] <HulaBeagleSeb> dantheman: i have two
[08:53] <Liam> hi
[08:54] <dantheman> did you have problems with it printing slightly larger than it should, a bit fuzzy, and a little bit too low on the page under ubuntu?
[08:54] <slask3n> Tomcat_: hehe, thats OK :) but he is connected directly to internet, has a dedicated IP and has no firewall.. but i get "connection refused" while trying to connect.. :s
[08:54] <Liam> Can someone tell me how I can change the date format of the desktop clock?
[08:54] <HulaBeagleSeb> dantheman: on my inkjet yes, laser no
[08:55] <FlyingSquirrel32> I just downloaded a .deb from eMule, how do I install it?
[08:55] <Tomcat_> slask3n: Did he enable the VNC for others than localhost and stuff?
[08:55] <dantheman> HulaBeagleSeb: i have an inkjet....did you ever manage to fix it?
[08:55] <HulaBeagleSeb> dantheman: no
[08:55] <nickrud> FlyingSquirrel32, dpkg -i .deb
[08:55] <dantheman> curses
[08:56] <sig> why
[08:56] <nickrud> dantheman, what printer & driver?
[08:56] <Tomcat_> slask3n: I just checked... he only needs to enable it and set it to "allow others to use it".
[08:56] <HulaBeagleSeb> 1. inotify doesn't work properly
[08:56] <HulaBeagleSeb> 2. the hp printer bug mentioned above
[08:56] <slask3n> Tomcat_: I dont know where to do that.. I was thinking something in that direction also.. but in the config-thing i cant find anything about that...
[08:56] <HulaBeagleSeb> 3. the opneoffice.org2 is out of dat
[08:56] <dantheman> nickrud: it's an hp photosmart 1115 and i'm using the hpijs driver
[08:56] <sig> cya
[08:57] <\SjN\> hey
[08:57] <Tomcat_> slask3n: The settings are in Systems => Prefs => Remote Desktop
[08:57] <nickrud> dantheman, you might want to try the gimpprint drivers, they're supposed to be better for images
[08:57] <\SjN\> what's so special about ubuntu?
[08:57] <HulaBeagleSeb> i dunno
[08:57] <server> its like debian
[08:57] <server> thats whats special
[08:57] <server> and it has new wizbangs
[08:57] <dantheman> well, it's printing text that's giving me trouble, but i'll try it
[08:57] <Tomcat_> HulaBeagleSeb: It's Debian, but it "just works".
[08:57] <dantheman> how do i get the gimp drivers?
[08:57] <server> WIZBANGS AND DOOHICKIES
[08:57] <Tomcat_> WOW!
[08:57] <FlyingSquirrel32> nickrud: Thanks. Is is safe to install .debs on my ubuntu machine. I got cedega.
[08:57] <server> i can sell anything.
[08:57] <server> hey tomcat, you write webapps?
[08:58] <] BreliC[> HulaBeagleSeb, no distro is perfect.. you can always install the more recent OOo yourself...
[08:58] <nickrud> dantheman, cupsys-driver-gimpprint
[08:58] <Arc> I'm having two pretty major issues with Hoary: the zip disk and a 3c509 card not being detected (after i replaced an unsupported RTL8029 card with it)
[08:58] <Tomcat_> slappy18: Yeah. Not currently though.
[08:58] <Reblended> If my BusID for my vid card is wrong, could this be a main cause of the GDM failing to load?
[08:58] <slask3n> Tomcat_ : I only see "Allow others to view desktop", "Allow others to control desktop", "ask for confirmation" and "ask for password" in there, all are checked...
[08:58] <nickrud> FlyingSquirrel32, yes, if you trust the source of the deb.
[08:58] <] BreliC[> HulaBeagleSeb, though I do admit i hate printer problems!  I have one of those 'unsupported' printers that I have managed to make work quite well
[08:58] <Arc> can someone help me with these problems?
[08:58] <rayofash> hiyas
[08:58] <dags> how do you play aac-streams? i have gstreamer0.8-faad, but all i get is could not determine type of stream
[08:58] <dantheman> nickrud: synaptic didn't find anything called that
[08:59] <dantheman> and i'ts not in the list of available drivers on the properties dialog for my printer
[08:59] <nickrud> dantheman, I did a quick apt-cache search, just a mo
[08:59] <rayofash> I got the 640x480 problem fixed ^^
[08:59] <Tomcat_> slask3n: When these are correctly set and there's no firewall, it should generally work... no idea then. Maybe check syslog... :I
[08:59] <slappy18> Tomcat_: do you have any good links on where to start learning on how to write basic webapps, because the goal is to write something deployable sometime..
[08:59] <slappy18> my goal.
[08:59] <FlyingSquirrel32> hmm, should I trust .debs from eMule???! :)   Thanks
[08:59] <slappy18> nah
[08:59] <rayofash> Now I am having problems with MPlayer, as there is no debian release =/
[08:59] <Arc> hmm, can someone please help me with my two problems?
[08:59] <Tomcat_> slappy18: Not really, sorry. When I started I just took some webapps, looked through their sources, then applied that to my programs.
[09:00] <slappy18> ahh, tnx
[09:00] <Arc> I'm doing a bulk install on donated computers for low-income black teens and am currently stuck
[09:00] <Reblended> lspci I think, says my busid is 0:1e:0 which is in decimal: 0:30:0 could this be wrong?
[09:00] <slask3n> Tomcat_ : He uses FC3 and I use Ubuntu, both have Gnome, should this affect it in any way?
[09:01] <Reblended> Arc, no one will commit to a problem if you don't throw some symptoms out there. =] 
[09:01] <seanlinus> hi fellas
[09:01] <Arc> Reblended: ok then zip disk issue first
[09:01] <Tomcat_> slask3n: Maybe FC restricts the connections... no idea where to set that.
[09:01] <Arc> many of these systems (donated from local university) have IDE zip drives, hdd
[09:01] <Arc> cfdisk shows that zip disks use the fourth partition, hdd4
[09:01] <Arc> however /dev/hdd4 doesn't exist. only /dev/hdd exists
[09:02] <Arc> so I can't mount them
[09:02] <HulaBeagleSeb> i'll try getting gamin from cvs me thinks
[09:02] <Reblended> crimsun, are you on? Arc has a mounting issue
[09:02] <Arc> I added an entry to /etc/fstab for /dev/hdd4 to /media/zip0 but I can't do anything without the proper device
[09:03] <nickrud> dantheman, I've got it installed, and accessible from the print dialog for the photosmart P1100
[09:03] <nickrud> don't have that printer, though
[09:03] <Reblended> arc crimsun helped me with a thumbdrive mounting issue before.. looks like he is idle tho
[09:03] <rayofash> How do I delete a folder? sudo shred doesnt work =/
[09:03] <Reblended> rayofash rd?
[09:04] <nickrud> rayofash, rmdir on an empty dir
[09:04] <Arc> but some of these ubuntu conventions/limitations are frustrating
[09:04] <HulaBeagleSeb> rayofash: rm -r /
[09:04] <seanlinus> i'm using 5.04 and i installed mysql - i'm able to login without password but i don't have the privilege
[09:04] <Reblended> rayofash, try rm
[09:04] <cyphase> question: i've installed mod_python, and the apache signature confirms it, but it's not processing it
[09:04] <cyphase> anyone know whats wrong?
[09:04] <nickrud> Arc, I agree, I'm slowly removing some of the restrictions myself
[09:04] <rayofash> Thanks that worked
[09:04] <seanlinus> any idea?
[09:04] <dantheman> nickrud: the one i have installed is foomatic-db-gimp-print
[09:04] <xfSx> anyone in here experienced valve steam games (counterstrike source) under ubu?
[09:04] <Reblended> great! ty HulaBeagleSeb
[09:05] <chx_> welcome. how can I force apt not to check a package dependency for ever? "bmp-wma: Depends: beep-media-player (>= 0.9.7+cvs20041121.12) but 0.9.7-1ubuntu1 is to be installed" -- bmp-wma and beep-media-player works as it should, apt is wrong in this case.
[09:05] <seanlinus> please help
[09:05] <seanlinus> i want to setup a db
[09:05] <nickrud> dantheman, try using foomatic-gui to install. no promises, though
[09:06] <seanlinus> anyone here have similar experienced?
[09:06] <Arc> what's really confusing is that KDE (kubuntu install) insists on putting an icon for the zip drives on the screen without a delete option and I can't figure out how it found /dev/hdd4 (which it somehow knows a zip drive is at)
[09:06] <dantheman> nickrud: terminal didn't recognize the command
[09:06] <nickrud> apt-get :)
[09:06] <Reblended> has anyone gotten any of the xorg drivers to work for an intel chipset? (specifically the 825 series)
[09:06] <dantheman> nickrud: ah, alright
[09:06] <seanlinus> how to have a privilege in mysql to create a db?
[09:07] <seanlinus> which user i need to use?
[09:07] <seanlinus> please
[09:07] <Arc> when kde tries to mount it (for media:/hdd4) it reports an error and closes quickly
[09:07] <WeirdAl> seanlinus, sudo mysql
[09:08] <Arc> Reblended: thanks for trying, but this is really an issue of asking for help
[09:08] <Reblended> arc =]  np
[09:08] <nickrud> seanlinus, try asking on #mysql for a pointer to beginning docs
[09:08] <seanlinus> access denied for sudo mysql
[09:08] <Arc> i can give as many details as I know but when someone pops on they'll just ask me for the details again
[09:08] <pr3vi0uz>  hello i have an question im trying to mount my hardrive when i type the command  in xterm  i get this error can't find /dev/hde1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:08] <Reblended> vesa or i8xx drivers both fail to work... restart > fail GDM
[09:08] <WeirdAl> :-) No, run it like that
[09:08] <seanlinus> how to do it nickrud?
[09:08] <WeirdAl> Instead of running mysql, run sudo mysql instead.
[09:08] <Reblended> even in 8bit ...
[09:08] <seanlinus> i did sudo mysql
[09:09] <nickrud> seanlinus, /join #mysql
[09:10] <slask3n> Tomcat_ : OK, thanks for the help :) Cant figure it out, cant ping him either :s but ill fix it another day while im visiting him...
[09:10] <rayofash> I cant figure out how to install MPlayer >.<, I am without a media player ;-;....
[09:10] <Reblended> even vlc? rayofash ?
[09:10] <rayofash> vlc?
[09:10] <Edgan> rayofash: add universe to your repo list, then install it
[09:10] <nickrud> pr3vi0uz, mount -t ext3 /dev/hde1 /path/to/mount
[09:10] <Reblended> vlc is Fine, rayofash
[09:11] <eaon> rayofash: www.videolan.org
[09:11] <WeirdAl> if you run "sudo mysql" from the terminal and put in your Linux user password you'll have admin access on mysql.
[09:11] <rayofash> Oh yes, VLC.
[09:11] <rayofash> I forgot about that one
[09:11] <rayofash> Thats the one I use for Windows
[09:11] <Reblended> =] 
[09:11] <rayofash> That one is good...
[09:11] <Reblended> I like the onscreen vol/etc
[09:13] <seanlinus> i tried WeirdAl and it's saying "str@Agila:~$ sudo mysql
[09:13] <seanlinus> ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)"
[09:14] <Arc> ok I think I fixed the zip disk issue on my own thanks to google but the network problem remains (3c509 card not being detected)
[09:14] <Arc> where is isapnptools
[09:14] <Reblended> google hugs
[09:14] <Arc> it's nowhere in the package system.  "isa" is simply not found.
[09:14] <Reblended> arc http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/ ?
[09:14] <Arc> Reblended: yes. where is that in the Ubuntu package system though?
[09:14] <WeirdAl> Oo
[09:15] <Arc> does Ubuntu simply not have support for ISA?!?
[09:15] <WeirdAl> Dunno then seanlinus, sorry
[09:15] <transgress> wow
[09:15] <transgress> i like this protection plan i bought on my lappy
[09:15] <rayofash> Reblended, I can download VLC, it says to do apt-get install gnome-vlc and all that, but it says the package isnt available.
[09:15] <FlyingSquirrel32> anyone use cedega here?
[09:15] <Reblended> why not just download and install manuall? =] 
[09:15] <buz> does anybody know how the support for ati radeon xpress boards is in ubuntu?
[09:15] <Reblended> later all!
[09:16] <transgress> they don't care if you put linux on the computer... they said at most... they would just put linux back on it if i needed a repair on some of the hardware
[09:16] <rayofash> Because they dont have one I can just download and install manually
[09:17] <HulaBeagleSeb> just wondering, does ubuntu do anything fedora core doesn't?
[09:17] <HulaBeagleSeb> or vice versa
[09:18] <rayofash> Yea, it actually runs.
[09:18] <Insom> tnx for all ure help guys.. c u nex time.. take care
[09:18] <HulaBeagleSeb> rayofash: seriously
[09:18] <buz> seriously
[09:18] <cyphase> question: i've installed mod_python, and the apache signature confirms it, but it's not processing it
[09:19] <buz> fedora would always break whenever i tried to update it
[09:19] <cyphase> anyone know whats wrong?
[09:19] <rayofash> Well I get sound in Ubuntu, I dont in Fedora Core
[09:19] <seanlinus> if i doing direct mysql in the terminal (not sudo mysql) it works!
[09:19] <seanlinus> but only it has not privilege even to create a database
[09:20] <seanlinus> any help please
[09:20] <HulaBeagleSeb> seanlinus: i do mysql -u root -p
[09:20] <HulaBeagleSeb> it works
[09:20] <HulaBeagleSeb> will privlidges
[09:21] <b0ol> what was the command to format a hdd?
[09:21] <seanlinus> Hula: str@Agila:~$ mysql -u root -p
[09:21] <seanlinus> Enter password:
[09:21] <seanlinus> ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[09:21] <seanlinus> str@Agila:~$
[09:22] <seanlinus> what went wrong with my installation?
[09:22] <seanlinus> i just installed it just now
[09:22] <b0ol> seanlinus
[09:22] <b0ol> try sudo -s
[09:22] <HulaBeagleSeb> have you set a mysql root password
[09:22] <HulaBeagleSeb> ?
[09:23] <Upayavira> b0ol: mkfs -t ext3 /dev/FOO
[09:23] <b0ol> ah sry
[09:23] <b0ol> read wrong :>
[09:23] <b0ol> thnx Upayavira
[09:23] <HulaBeagleSeb> seanlinus: ?
[09:23] <ifr> Amaranth - Installed network-manager gnome as you suggested. Can't get it to start and now the network is completely down on that box. How is it invoked?
[09:23] <Amaranth> ifr: No clue. :P
[09:23] <seanlinus> i didn't set the password yet
[09:23] <ifr> Ah. Thanks
[09:23] <Amaranth> ifr: That webpage had that info.
[09:23] <HulaBeagleSeb> thats why
[09:23] <HulaBeagleSeb> do it like this
[09:24] <ifr> Okay, I thought yuo had run it as well'...Better luck to me next time!
[09:24] <HulaBeagleSeb> mysqladmin -u root -p password yoursuperdupernewpassword
[09:24] <ifr> Thanks
[09:24] <HulaBeagleSeb> sorry
[09:24] <HulaBeagleSeb> IGNORE THAT seanlinus
[09:24] <HulaBeagleSeb> it should be
[09:24] <HulaBeagleSeb> mysqladmin -u root password yoursuperdupernewpassword
[09:24] <SeamusLP> Amaranth:  So far the only complaint about that bittorrent client is that it can't be resized.  Wouldn't it be fairly trivial to change this in pygtk?
[09:24] <flyingsquirrel54> FlyingSquirrel32: Testing...
[09:25] <ifr> Okay, can anyone help me restart my network daemons without restarting the bloody machine? /etc/init.d/networking restart does nothing, nor does ifdown
[09:25] <rayofash> try root
[09:25] <ifr> rayofash was that for IFR ?
[09:25] <Amaranth> SeamusLP: Yeah, I could make the starting size the minimum size.
[09:26] <rayofash> what?
[09:26] <FlyingSquirrel32> Anyone here use WTlib?
[09:27] <SeamusLP> Amaranth:  Cool.  I might have to learn python.  It appears to be rather simple and quick to boot.
[09:27] <transgress> wow... there isn't a single gtk client that offers all that psi does... that sucks.
[09:27] <seanlinus> okei, how to reset mysql root password?
[09:27] <seanlinus> is there any way?
[09:27] <seanlinus> if i reinstall mysql it will work?
[09:27] <HulaBeagleSeb> seanlinux: remove mysql and reinstall ;-)
[09:27] <HulaBeagleSeb> seanlinus: have you set the password?
[09:27] <seanlinus> how to do it Hula - sorry newbie here
[09:28] <seanlinus> i'm not so sure, to be honest
[09:28] <seanlinus> how to uninstall mysql
[09:28] <HulaBeagleSeb> seanlinus: did you try my instructions?
[09:28] <seanlinus> i did Hula
[09:29] <HulaBeagleSeb> did it work?
[09:29] <transgress> okay i've read the man page for sudoers but i still am having trouble figuring out exactly how to edit this file
[09:29] <seanlinus> nope
[09:29] <resiak> transgress: As root, run visudo. Edit to your heart's content. :wq. You're done.
[09:29] <transgress> does someone feel like helping me?  i'm trying to make it so i'm authenticated less, and now that i've read that i want insults on
[09:29] <transgress> resiak: i've gotten that far...
[09:30] <resiak> transgress: Define "authenticated less".
[09:30] <seanlinus> i'll be back... check some docs first
[09:30] <seanlinus> thanks folks
[09:30] <gds> hello people
[09:30] <transgress> where it asks me for my password less often when i sudo
[09:30] <Insom> im back sooner thany i expected
[09:30] <transgress> resiak: it seems to have increased when i enabled su... which i now disabled since i'm getting used to sudo
[09:31] <Insom> i have a problem playing divx
[09:31] <rayofash> Where can I get a C compiler?
[09:31] <transgress> Insom: you have divx4linux?
[09:31] <Insom> i have installed the plugins.. but.. my tothem just playes sound but no picture
[09:31] <Choubaka> rayofash: install gcc
[09:31] <Choubaka> or preferably, build-essential
[09:31] <Insom> transgress: not sure
[09:32] <resiak> transgress: *shrug*
[09:33] <rayofash> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[09:33] <rayofash> Whats that mean?
[09:34] <jboyens_> I'm having some weird DHCP problems with Ubuntu... DHCP works in Windows but not in Ubuntu. I don't ever receive a DHCPOFFER. Any ideas?
[09:35] <asmodi> nic problems
[09:35] <jboyens_> Tried 4 different NICS. Different brands too.
[09:35] <jboyens_> Tried different cables as well.
[09:36] <asmodi> Then I don't know
[09:37] <_-InMa-_> buenas noches, bona nit, good night
[09:37] <oris_wolfbane> mu usb mp3 player automounts, but ubunttu rekons it only has 102.ok of freespace
[09:37] <HulaBeagleSeb> suse 9.3 is looking swell!
[09:38] <bad_mongo> anyone know why I don't have sounds on DVDs?
[09:38] <resiak> bad_mongo: Been buying silent movies?
[09:39] <bur[n] er> bad_mongo: have sound elsewhere?
[09:39] <oris_wolfbane> does anyone knowwhy ubuntu rekons my mp3 palyer ony has 102.0kb of space
[09:40] <bad_mongo> jupp, all other sound work
[09:40] <bad_mongo> divx, mp3 and cd have sound
[09:40] <Insom> i have installed the plugins.. but.. my tothem just playes sound but no picture and i did install divx4linux
[09:41] <Insom> anyone?
[09:41] <] BreliC[> HulaBeagleSeb, i hope its gotten quicker.  it's getting ridiculous.  I started with 8.2, then used 9.0, 9.1, 9.2, and finally decided to ditch it for Ubuntu.  It's become quite bloated *and* they just keep crippling the multimedia more and more
[09:42] <HulaBeagleSeb> it says on reviews it has
[09:42] <] BreliC[> that's good... but too little too late for me.. i've given up
[09:43] <Burgundavia> 9.3 is the first distro to ship with Beagle
[09:43] <bad_mongo> suse's to big.. 5 cd's!
[09:43] <] BreliC[> yeah, and it's also shipping with a BETA version of what most people will use as their most important Word processing software
[09:43] <] BreliC[> very silly IMO
[09:43] <Burgundavia> so will FC4
[09:43] <Jefis> how to update all packagers from konsole?
[09:44] <Burgundavia> as OO2 will not ship until July
[09:45] <] BreliC[> so far in my experience, OOo2 beta looks nice, functions well, but isn't ready and has quite a few bugs... so i play around with it, but never rely on it for important stuff
[09:45] <bad_mongo> what other distros use apt-get? mandrake?
[09:45] <SeamusLP> What kinds of bugs did you encounter?
[09:45] <] BreliC[> bad_mongo, nope, but you can install it if you want to
[09:45] <SeamusLP> Any data-loss?
[09:45] <fgx> hi. will security team fix the bug of php discovered today?
[09:46] <rayofash> gawd, so many diffrent libraries and packages just for VLC >.<
[09:46] <] BreliC[> SeamusLP, yup, crashed on me about one out of 5 or 6 times I was using it (under KDE in SuSE 9,2)... and it won't save over the network for some reason
[09:46] <] BreliC[> doesn't handle the old 1.x file format well, sometimes crashing, sometimes exiting
[09:46] <ivoks> EHLO ubuntu@freenode.net
[09:46] <bad_mongo> ok..
[09:47] <ivoks> so... k3b or gnomebaker?
[09:47] <Jefis> k3b rulz
[09:47] <ivoks> which one u like more?
[09:47] <] BreliC[> bad_mongo, Debian, Xandros, Linspire.. and Ubuntu, among others
[09:47] <njan> 250-ubuntu.channel.freenode Hello ivoks [lns01-0087.dsl.iskon.hr] 
[09:47] <ivoks> njan ;)
[09:47] <SeamusLP> ] BreliC[:  Lame.  I'll have to wait awhile before I use it.
[09:47] <njan> 250-ASKQUESTION
[09:47] <bad_mongo> ] BreliC[, ok, thank you
[09:47] <njan> 250-FLAMEPEOPLE
[09:47] <njan> 250-LEAVE
[09:47] <ivoks> njan AUTH?
[09:47] <njan> :)
[09:48] <slappy18> njan: LOL
[09:48] <njan> 503 ASKQUESTION required before AUTH
[09:48] <ivoks> hehe
[09:48] <rrichie> i have a problem : When i try a command that must be run as root (ex. kuser or Administrator mode in kde control center), i type the good password but it says it is the wrong password? someone has an idea ?
[09:48] <slappy18> ehlo ubuntu.com
[09:48] <ivoks> 503 WRONG ANSWER
[09:48] <njan> 500 UNRECOGNISED COMMAND
[09:48] <slappy18> lol
[09:48] <ivoks> 666 MAYDAY MAYDAY
[09:48] <njan> 500 Too many unrecognised commands
[09:48] <] BreliC[> SeamusLP, np.. though that's only my experience ;)
[09:48] <ivoks> ah... dirty SMTP talk
[09:48] <njan> :-p
[09:49] <ivoks> what's up with ban?
[09:49] <njan> ivoks, it was a joke, I didn't actually ban you, it was a /me ;)
[09:49] <ivoks> ah well...
[09:49] <slappy18> ivoks talkin http and njan talkin smtp...good luck
[09:49] <SeamusLP> ] BreliC[:  I trust that you weren't using it while taking drugs or something.
[09:49] <slappy18> two foreigners
[09:49] <slappy18> have we been sysadmining too long?
[09:50] <slappy18> when you can distinguish proto-speak
[09:50] <] BreliC[> SeamusLP, hehe, nope.  may have had a slight wine buzz a few times though
[09:50] <ivoks> for 10 years now... ok, allmost :)
[09:50] <slappy18> lol
[09:50] <njan> slappy18, we started talking in it, what does that say about us? :p
[09:50] <SeamusLP> ] BreliC[:  Just as long as it wasn't LSD ;)
[09:50] <ivoks> hahahaha
[09:50] <slappy18> at least theres no klingon, yet
[09:50] <] BreliC[> ;)
[09:50] <ivoks> but hey!
[09:50] <njan> rrk'B Tal, slappy18 ?
[09:50] <ivoks> we can do SSL! :)
[09:50] <njan> ivoks, STARTTLS
[09:51] <ivoks> yeah! even better :)
[09:51] <njan> ivoks, $random_incomprehensible_data
[09:51] <folta> i have a fairly odd problem with wireless networking: it only successfully connects about 0.5% of the tries i make - even though i can 'see' the router with iwconfig. anyone know why it might be erratic?
[09:51] <ivoks> 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
[09:51] <ivoks> 250 8BITMIME
[09:51] <njan> bbias
[09:51] <ivoks> folta ?
[09:52] <folta> ivoks?
[09:52] <ivoks> more info, wich wireless etc..
[09:52] <ivoks> njan quit the chatter: ^]  :)
[09:52] <folta> ivoks - rt2500 chipset, amd-64 system, using native drivers compiled from source, the access point uses wep
[09:53] <folta> ivoks , also dhcp for configuration
[09:53] <ivoks> no expirience with that... only ipw2200
[09:54] <ivoks> folta so.. it connects to AP, but no data flow?
[09:54] <mikeco> ack totem is borked
[09:54] <folta> ivoks, it can see the AP, it doesn't get an address thru DHCP tho
[09:54] <nnonix> bleee
[09:54] <ivoks> folta is AP giving address or some other machine behind AP?
[09:55] <folta> ivoks, the AP is
[09:55] <transgress> so geek
[09:55] <ivoks> folta and AP works ok with other machines?
[09:56] <transgress> have this box, my desktop going with three irc chats... CLI going on my server with the monitor on the same desk, lappy in my lap.  using all of the above.
[09:56] <folta> ivoks, with all the windows machines and my handheld, yep
[09:56] <ivoks> folta ok
[09:56] <ivoks> folta set IP address manually
[09:56] <ivoks> folta get nmap and portscan whole subnet
[09:57] <ivoks> ivoks make that sweepping, not portscan
[09:57] <ivoks> wtf is wrong with me tonight? :)
[09:57] <ivoks> folta nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/24 for example
[09:57] <ivoks> folta it should display all machines...
[09:57] <folta> ivoks, i shall have a go...
[09:57] <ivoks> folta and.. one more thing...
[09:58] <ivoks> folta many laptops have switch for on or off for their wifi card
[09:58] <ivoks> folta ipw2200 driver works with that switch on keyboard
[09:58] <ivoks> but some don't!
[09:58] <ivoks> did u check that?
[09:58] <ivoks> there is some tool... rifswitch or something like that...
[09:59] <rayofash> hey
[09:59] <folta> ivoks, it
[09:59] <rayofash> im trying to install VLC
[09:59] <folta> 's a desktop actually
[09:59] <rayofash> and when i do a ./configure
[09:59] <rayofash> it says:
[10:00] <ivoks> folta ah, ok
[10:00] <ivoks> :)
[10:00] <Insom> can anyone tell me of any other divx players for ubuntu besides tothem and mplayer?
[10:00] <rayofash> configure: error: Missing header file ffmpeg/avcodec.h.
[10:00] <rayofash> I have downloaded and installed the ffmpeg library
[10:00] <rayofash> I think, I did a ./configure and sudo make install
[10:00] <folta> ivoks , can't get nmap without a network connection!
[10:00] <rayofash> I even moved the avcodec.h into the VLC configure folder.
[10:00] <ivoks> folta iwconfig says there is wifi?
[10:00] <rayofash> And it still gives me that
[10:00] <ivoks> folta which interface?
[10:01] <folta> ivoks, it's called ra0, and iwconfig shows a connection
[10:01] <ivoks> ok...
[10:01] <Insom> anyone?
[10:02] <ivoks> folta iwconfig ra0 192.168.0.123 up
[10:02] <ivoks> folta or whatever IP u have there...
[10:02] <ivoks> sorry
[10:02] <ivoks> ifconfig
[10:02] <ivoks> not iwconfig
[10:02] <krusbjorn> insom: you could try vlc
[10:03] <drspin> ugh irsii :/
[10:04] <ivoks> folta and then try with nmap
[10:04] <goldfish> irssi is great drspin :)
[10:05] <drspin> how can I eject a CD that has had read erros and buffer errors for the last half hour?
[10:05] <folta> ivoks, i don't have an IP
[10:05] <ivoks> folta find wifi-radar package and play with it...
[10:05] <ivoks> folta what do u mean u don't have IP? invent one
[10:06] <drspin> ???
[10:06] <ivoks> :)
[10:06] <bad_mongo> anyone tested xandros? does it hava gnome 2.10 and kde 3.4?
[10:06] <ivoks> choose one, try to choose one that is free
[10:07] <Valentin-> hey, how do I uninstall packages like the games in the fastest way?
[10:08] <drspin> here's a better question
[10:08] <Jefis> How to update all packages from console?
[10:08] <Choubaka> apt-get upgrade
[10:09] <drspin> using apt-get how can I reinstall the entire OS without formatting (i.e. reinstall all packages in ubuntu-base & ubuntu-desktop)
[10:09] <Choubaka> of course, you may want to perform an apt-get update first.
[10:09] <Choubaka> drspin: hmm :|
[10:09] <Choubaka> that may be tricky
[10:09] <Choubaka> why do you want to do it anyway?
[10:09] <nickrud-away> drspin, use aptitude
[10:09] <drspin> Choubaka: I've tried apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-base
[10:09] <drspin> but it doesn't work
[10:09] <Choubaka> yeah
[10:10] <drspin> nickrud-away: how would I do it in aptitude?
[10:10] <Choubaka> it only reinstalls the metapackage.
[10:10] <Choubaka> But answer me
[10:10] <nickrud-away> looking :)
[10:10] <drspin> Choubaka: correct
[10:10] <Choubaka> Why do you want this?
[10:10] <drspin> Choubaka: because I've had a rough time with DMA settings -- suffered some data corruption...
[10:10] <drspin> Choubaka: after a couple of hard-reboots
[10:10] <Choubaka> ouch :|
[10:10] <drspin> Choubaka: yes
[10:11] <drspin> nickrud-away: thanks
[10:12] <folta> ivoks, i can't install nmap without a working connection...
[10:12] <ivoks> lol
[10:12] <ivoks> true :)
[10:12] <nickrud-away> drspin, I don't have docs installed, and I don't remember the key command.
[10:12] <drspin> nickrud-away: booo ;) thanks for trying
[10:12] <nickrud-away> for rinstall. Find it, hightlight 'Installed Packages' line, and hit it.
[10:12] <ivoks> folta ifconfig ra0 dhcp up
[10:13] <nickrud-away> that will reinstall all installed packages
[10:13] <ivoks> folta sorry... like this:
[10:13] <ivoks> folta sudo dhclient ra0
[10:14] <folta> ivoks, ok
[10:15] <sick-headache> anyone here?
[10:15] <ivoks> nope
[10:15] <sick-headache> ok :)
[10:15] <dazed> does gaim have a website nayone?
[10:16] <sick-headache> i cant play dvds in linux, what prog do i need, or plugins
[10:16] <concept10> gaim.sourceforge.net i think
[10:16] <krusbjorn> dazed: google it?
[10:16] <dazed> lazy...just reading the man
[10:17] <folta> ivoks, it does dhcprequests and then  dhcpdisovers to 255.255.255.255, but with no response
[10:17] <drspin> dazed: #gaim
[10:17] <drspin> dazed: gaim.sourceforge.net
[10:17] <rayofash> Error: X11 support required for GUI compilation
[10:17] <rayofash> Whats that mean?
[10:17] <dazed> drspin: thanks
[10:17] <drspin> dazed: and for m$ #wingaim
[10:18] <Arc> can anyone help me configure hald?
[10:18] <dazed> drspin: ...negative on the last one lol
[10:18] <Arc> I need to make it not touch the zip drive, it's putting non-functional icons on my KDE desktop for the atapi zip drive
[10:18] <drspin> dazed: good deal ;)
[10:18] <ivoks> folta iwconfig says what? paste to me on private
[10:19] <drspin> so it seems that aptitude won't let me do it either...
[10:20] <Arc> can someone please help with this problem?
[10:20] <drspin> basically I just want to reinstall all the dependencies of package_x
[10:20] <drspin> anyone?
[10:20] <nahum> hello
[10:20] <nahum> someone could help me with my cam
[10:20] <nahum> ?
[10:20] <drspin> nahum: what software?
[10:20] <nahum> i don't really know
[10:20] <Arc> wow
[10:21] <drspin> nahum: what are you wanting to do?
[10:21] <nahum> i was trying to install the software
[10:21] <Arc> Ubuntu: the distro of all newbies
[10:21] <nahum> and i got thouseand of problems
[10:21] <Arc> those needing help helping eachother :-/
[10:21] <Arc> nahum: we all do. and there's been nobody really helping for at least the last hour
[10:21] <nahum> finally i recompiled the sources
[10:21] <mikeco> hm
[10:21] <nahum> and i could install
[10:21] <drspin> Arc: I don't know what your problem is...
[10:21] <nahum> the driver
[10:22] <nahum> when I type lsusb i get
[10:22] <drspin> nahum: you running ubuntu compiled from source?
[10:22] <nahum> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[10:22] <nahum> yes, with kernel 2.6.10
[10:22] <drspin> nahum: or just the driver?
[10:22] <drspin> ok lsusb
[10:22] <drspin> only paste the info about the CAM
[10:23] <kakalto> what's with potatoe?
[10:23] <kakalto> debian's potatoe?
[10:24] <drspin> how can I reinstall all dependencies of package_x using apt???
[10:24] <nahum> what info do you need to help me?
[10:24] <drspin> nahum: lsusb
[10:25] <nahum> what i pasted it's just what i get
[10:25] <drspin> nahum: just the one line?
[10:25] <nahum> nahum@mrvertigo:~ $ lsusb
[10:25] <nahum> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[10:25] <nahum> yes, just one line
[10:25] <drspin> nahum: $ sudo /etc/init.d/hotplug restart
[10:25] <drspin> nahum: then lsusb
[10:26] <kakalto> is there a guide to optimising ubuntu loadup time & speed?
[10:26] <Arc> kakalto: if you want to optimize anything, use Gentoo.
[10:26] <Arc> Ubuntu is easy to use but is far from optimized.
[10:26] <kakalto> I expected an answer like that
[10:26] <kjalil> drspin: how about reinstalling the package using 'apt-get --reinstall <package>'?
[10:26] <drspin> Arc: WTF man --
[10:26] <mikeco> haha
[10:27] <kakalto> thing is, Gentoo didn't have support for some of my hardware >.<
[10:27] <nahum> but
[10:27] <mikeco> just turning off hotplug speeds the load time up
[10:27] <drspin> kjalil: doesn't reinstall the depends -- just the package itself
[10:27] <nahum> ok
[10:27] <nahum> i try
[10:27] <mikeco> but.
[10:27] <kakalto> although that was version 2004.1
[10:27] <nahum> but although the driver is not installed
[10:27] <drspin> kakalto: gentoo has support for more hardware and sys configs than any other distro
[10:27] <mikeco> make sure all your drivers are loaded properly
[10:27] <nahum> shouldn't lsusb show the product id and vendor id?
[10:28] <kakalto> drspin, well, ubuntu supported my soundcard, where gentoo didn't
[10:28] <kakalto> drspin, I tried EVERYTHING to get it working
[10:28] <rayofash> I'm trying to compile MPlayer with GUI support and I am getting: Error: X11 support required for GUI compilation
[10:28] <mikeco> kakalto, or maybe the driver wasn't built
[10:28] <kakalto> none of the guides worked
[10:28] <drspin> kakalto: uh -- LOL what sound card?
[10:28] <kakalto> mikeco, I tried compiling my own
[10:28] <kjalil> drspin: how about doing a apt-get clean first before you try that?
[10:28] <kakalto> drspin, Onboard VIA 82XXXX
[10:29] <kakalto> what was it
[10:29] <mcrawfor> heya - sometime when I resume after suspend to memory, my screen doesn't come back on
[10:29] <Arc> drspin: hey, Gentoo has better support for Ubuntu too
[10:29] <mcrawfor> anyone have ubuntu-specific ideas on that?
[10:30] <mikeco> snd_via82xx
[10:30] <mikeco> from alsa works
[10:30] <chicken_man> eople :P
[10:30] <chicken_man> hey people *
[10:30] <^thehatsrule^> lol
[10:31] <drspin> kjalil: same behavior -- it seems that if theres an option to "build-dep" there should be an option to "reinstall-dep"
[10:31] <chicken_man> i got ubuntu running with windows now :)
[10:31] <kakalto> mikeco, maybe 2004.1 wasn't a good release
[10:32] <kjalil> drspin: have you tried 'purging' the package with 'apt-get --purge remove <package>' and then trying?
[10:32] <mikeco> heh, it's just building the proper alsa drivers
[10:32] <mikeco> on any linux
[10:32] <mikeco> distro that is
[10:32] <WebMaven> Hi folks, I haven't had any updates since Hoary was released. I reload, but get no new packages.
[10:32] <kjalil> drspin: i'm not sure if that removes dependencies or not. btw, why do you want to reinstall everything anyway?
[10:32] <drspin> kjalil: LOL -- once again just removes the metapackage, not the deps...
[10:33] <kjalil> drspin: perhaps it's time for dpkg and not apt
[10:33] <drspin> kjalil: bad hdparm incident --
[10:33] <kjalil> drspin: which package you trying to install?
[10:33] <jeavis> hello somebody know where I can download oreilly books
[10:34] <drspin> kjalil: and 3 or 4 hard reboots... got some corruption --
[10:34] <cyphase> jeavis: oreilly.com
[10:34] <cyphase> lol
[10:34] <drspin> kjalil: ubuntu-base && ubuntu-desktop... don't want to reformat again (just did yesterday)
[10:34] <kjalil> jeavis: you can pay for them and view them online with oreilly's safari
[10:34] <nxvl> hi
[10:34] <WebMaven> Does anyone have a clue why I have not had any new package updates for the past few weeks?
[10:34] <drspin> WebMaven: because Hoary is stable...
[10:34] <nxvl> i have just change my SO from debian to Ubuntu on mi Laptop
[10:34] <nxvl> and im loving it
[10:34] <jeavis> kjalil; I want to download free
[10:35] <cyphase> jeavis: http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/
[10:35] <nxvl> but i have a problem
[10:35] <syntaxis> drspin: if it's a metapackage, just list its dependencies and then do an "apt-get install --reinstall <foo>" on those
[10:35] <mikeco> would someone load http://community.webshots.com/user/jezzieta02 and then click one of the albums. tell me you experience load problems
[10:35] <nxvl> to put mi displey on and proyector or other Monitor
[10:35] <WebMaven> drspin, are you saying that there have been no updates at all in the past few weeks? Not for security or anything else?
[10:36] <mikeco> i just want to make sure it's not firefox
[10:37] <LinuxJones> Anybody comment on how Breezy is working ATM ?
[10:38] <drspin> syntaxis: every package in ubuntu-base && ubuntu-devel... that would take me a while
[10:38] <syntaxis> drspin: why? You can specify multiple packages at a time
[10:39] <kjalil> drspin: have you got the packages in /var/cache/apt/archives? maybe you could use 'dpkg -i *.deb' on them or something like that
[10:39] <kjalil> syntaxis: what is the command to look at a package's dependencies from the command-line
[10:39] <kjalil> ?
[10:40] <syntaxis> kjalil: "apt-cache showpkg <foo>" IIRC
[10:40] <sobersabre> guys. there's evolution 2.2.2 out. is there a way to have it on hoary ?
[10:40] <syntaxis> it's complicated a little by the fact that complex metapackages (e.g. KDE) tend to depend on other metapackages in turn, but...
[10:41] <guido_> kjalil, or rather apt-cache depends <foo>
[10:41] <kjalil> syntaxis, can you put all those brackets and parentheses in the command to apt-get?
[10:42] <guido_> kjalil, <foo> stands for packagename
[10:43] <kakalto> does anyone know what configuration files in my home directory that could make gnome crash on loadin ?
[10:43] <kjalil> guido: so apt-cache depends ubuntu-base | cut -c9-  should give you a list then?
[10:43] <syntaxis> kjalil: you could easily whip up a script to parse the output and pass it to "apt-cache showpkg" via xargs, but failing that, manually copying and pasting the dependencies isn't that hard
[10:43] <kjalil> i could put the output of that into a script and that should work
[10:44] <kakalto> anyone?
[10:44] <syntaxis> kjalil: yes, provided you filter out all but the contents of the "Dependencies:" part of the output and remove extraneous information such as the version number
[10:45] <kjalil> syntaxis, yes i think so too ;)
[10:45] <LinuxJones> kakalto, what kid of error comes up ?
[10:45] <drspin> syntaxis: multiple packaged to the tune of every package in ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop?? that would take forever (I don't have X running so I can't copy and past)
[10:45] <sobersabre> guys. i have upgraded to hoary from sarge. i have strange problem with yelp: it doesn't run.
[10:45] <kjalil> drspin: looks like that's how youll have to do it, use apt-cache depends ubuntu-base | grep -c9-
[10:46] <drspin> kjalil: I ran apt-get clean already :/
[10:46] <syntaxis> kjalil: you could also filter the output of "apt-cache depends <foo>" which might be cleaner
[10:46] <sobersabre> is there a way to _really_ make sure upgrade was run fine ?
[10:46] <drspin> kjalil: oooh lemme try that
[10:46] <kjalil> drspin: redirect that list into a file, edit the file with vim and remove any extraneous stuff
[10:46] <kakalto> LinuxJones, it doesn't display an error, it jast freezes
[10:46] <kjalil> drspin: put a apt-get install in front of the long list and you're done i guess
[10:46] <kakalto> LinuxJones, I think it's something to do with xfce
[10:47] <LinuxJones> kakalto, can you boot into gnome or kde ok ?
[10:47] <kakalto> kde, yes
[10:47] <kakalto> icewm, yes
[10:47] <kakalto> I reinstalled, so I don't actually have xfce installed at the moment, but somethings were left in my home partition
[10:47] <kakalto> but gnome doesn't work
[10:47] <LinuxJones> kakalto, jsut delete the .xfce directory then try to login again it should start you over from scratch
[10:47] <Johansson> hi
[10:48] <LinuxJones> kakalto, gnome doesn't work ?
[10:48] <kakalto> LinuxJones, I'm pretty sure there is no such directory
[10:48] <kakalto> LinuxJones, when it's loading, it freezes before loading anything, it just shows the splash screen
[10:48] <Johansson> i get this error when i try to send email with evolution: MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first.
[10:48] <FlyingSquirrel32> where can i get a good .deb for wine?
[10:48] <Johansson> either using gmail smtp or using sendmail, the samen error
[10:49] <steved> kakalto: i had a similar problem earlier truned out to be aproblem in my saved session file
[10:49] <syntaxis> FlyingSquirrel32: what's wrong with the one already provided?
[10:49] <kakalto> FlyingSquirrel32, either from apt-get, or www.winehq.org
[10:49] <LinuxJones> kakalto, the .xfce4 directory
[10:49] <FlyingSquirrel32> oooooold
[10:49] <kakalto> LinuxJones, I'll give it a go
[10:49] <kjalil> drspin: i've put up a file for you at: http://www.kerneljack.com/temp.txt
[10:49] <syntaxis> FlyingSquirrel32: but does it work?
[10:50] <LinuxJones> kakalto, or you can first try creating a new user and logging into xfce in that account
[10:50] <kjalil> drspin: if you're on hoary i suppose it should be the same list as you would get
[10:50] <FlyingSquirrel32> syntaxis: not with the software I really want.
[10:50] <kakalto> LinuxJones, xfce isn't installed at the moment
[10:50] <kakalto> and I tried making another user, but it screwed up I think
[10:51] <drspin> the human gdm theme... what package is that?
[10:52] <mikeco> you shouyld just pay for codeweavers wine
[10:52] <mikeco> should
[10:52] <mikeco> it was worth it
[10:52] <cens0red> good moaning.
[10:52] <kjalil> drspin: gdm-themes?
[10:52] <drspin> kjalil: LOL tried it ;)
[10:53] <kjalil> drspin: did you get the file?
[10:53] <LinuxJones> kakalto, it might be faster to jsut wipe everyting and do a re-install :D
[10:53] <kakalto> what's the command to start X with gnome
[10:53] <kakalto> LinuxJones, screw that, I'll just uninstall gnome :0
[10:53] <drspin> kjalil: ytes
[10:53] <drspin> kjalil: *yes
[10:53] <Nomikos> is there any text-to-speech software for ubuntu/debian?
[10:53] <tritium> #/join python
[10:54] <LinuxJones> kakalto, /etc/init.d/gdm restart .... then select gnome
[10:54] <steved> kakalto: is it gnome you are having problems whith ? if so try deleting the session files in ~/.gnome worked for me earlier when i had a similar problem
[10:54] <kakalto> thanks, steved
[10:54] <kakalto> I'll try
[10:54] <kakalto> LinuxJones, I don't use gdm :)
[10:54] <steved> kakalto sry .gnome2 is the directory
[10:54] <SQL_Sam> i cant seem to connect to irc.mozilla.org from xchat?  any advice?
[10:54] <FlyingSquirrel32> I'm using rythembox to play my mp3's, but I want to edit the metadata to organize them. Rythembox doesn't seem to let me do that. Any ideas?
[10:55] <kakalto> steved, that too :)
[10:55] <Johansson> FlyingSquirrel32, use easytag
[10:55] <drspin> FlyingSquirrel32: easytag
[10:55] <FlyingSquirrel32> thx
[10:55] <Johansson> anybody here uses evolution?
[10:56] <thegreedyturtle> yes
[10:56] <kakalto> I'll be back!
[10:56] <kaesehummer> Johansson, i do
[10:56] <drspin> LinuxJones: I did a hard reboot while copying a large file from the CD-ROM because It had been copying for over an hour and was still getting i/o errors (bad sectors)
[10:57] <drspin> LinuxJones: this caused LOTS AND LOTS of data corruption...
[10:57] <Johansson> and you can send email?
[10:57] <kaesehummer> yup
[10:57] <LinuxJones> drspin, argh
[10:57] <Johansson> with sendmail or smtp?
[10:57] <kaesehummer> smtp
[10:57] <Johansson> i get that -> MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first
[10:58] <Johansson> with sendmail, and gmail smtp
[10:58] <Johansson> any ideas?
[10:58] <kjalil> drspin: good luck, i gotta go ;-)
[10:58] <SQL_Sam> what other irc clients are available?
[10:58] <sobersabre> Johansson, i use evo.
[10:58] <mattgirv> Anyone here listen to TalkSPORT? (www.talksport.net)
[10:59] <sobersabre> what seems to be the problem ?
[10:59] <Nomikos> SQL_Sam: you can use chatzilla, from mozilla?
[10:59] <Johansson> i can't send email
[10:59] <Johansson> sobersabre, I get that error -> MAIL FROM command failed: Must issue a STARTTLS command first
[10:59] <Johansson> i've tried all different settings, there aren't many
[10:59] <SQL_Sam> never tried it - my mozilla firefox is laggy that is why i wanted to go on the irc.mozilla.org
[11:00] <SQL_Sam> xchat seems to never connect...
[11:00] <Nomikos> what are you using now?
[11:00] <SQL_Sam> xchat
[11:02] <Nomikos> hmm... check logs, all I can think of :/
[11:02] <sobersabre> Johansson, you need to setup account properly.
[11:02] <sobersabre> define sending mail to an SMTP with TLS enabled.
[11:02] <FlyingSquirrel32> Johansson: I just tried Easytag. Its nice but not quite as good as I'd like.
[11:03] <sobersabre> Johansson,
[11:03] <sobersabre> are you there ?
[11:03] <drspin> how can I reinstall GTK?
[11:03] <Johansson> yes
[11:03] <Johansson> can't find that option
[11:04] <sobersabre> Johansson, choose "server requires authentication"
[11:04] <Johansson> just "use secure conection"
[11:04] <FlyingSquirrel32> Johansson: Windows Media Player (I can't beleive I'm saying this) allowed me to search for all ot the files that had a certain artist and then change the name of the artist all at once
[11:04] <Johansson> yes, it's checked
[11:04] <drspin> FlyingSquirrel32: then make your own --
[11:05] <lunitik> drspin: apt-get install --reinstall libgtk2.0-0   ... but you prolly want dpkg-reconfigure libgtk2.0-0
[11:05] <sobersabre> Johansson, now there's option "use secure connection" choose whenever possible, and then "check what the server supports"
[11:05] <Johansson> sobersabre, already did that
[11:05] <drspin> lunitik: thanks!! any idea how to reinstall the dependencies of package_x?
[11:05] <FlyingSquirrel32> drspin: I was afraid you'd say that :)  I could in VB.net, but not in C yet.
[11:05] <Johansson> like i said, there aren't much options, and i've tried all of them
[11:05] <drspin> FlyingSquirrel32: try C++ you may pick it up pretty quick ;)
[11:06] <mikeco> perl
[11:06] <lunitik> drspin: ahh... nah...
[11:06] <mikeco> :D
[11:06] <FlyingSquirrel32> drspin: I wonder why rhytembox doesn't let you change that way... it's a shame.
[11:06] <FlyingSquirrel32> drspin:  I've got to learn C !!!!
[11:06] <drspin> FlyingSquirrel32: it will eventually ;)
[11:07] <drspin> FlyingSquirrel32: the next version I think...
[11:07] <fubar> Hi, can someone tell me if there's anything wrong with my /etc/network/interfaces? mapping ath0\nscript /usr/local/sbin/netparam.sh\nmap HOME ath0-home
[11:07] <FlyingSquirrel32> drspin: seriously??
[11:07] <fubar> '/usr/local/sbin/netparam.sh ath0' returns 'HOME'
[11:07] <drspin> FlyingSquirrel32: if I remember correctly
[11:07] <fubar> so I don't see why ath-home isn't being called
[11:07] <fubar> * ath0-home
[11:07] <sobersabre> Johansson, what is "server type" saying ?
[11:07] <FlyingSquirrel32> drspin: Excelent, I'll just have to wait.
[11:08] <FlyingSquirrel32> and study.
[11:08] <Johansson> SMTP
[11:08] <cion> how do I install XIne wav plugins?
[11:09] <re|run> I am having difficulty getting my wireless to work right. Everything seemed to be working fine for the first day I had ubuntu running but then yesterday it started dropping the connection and not picking it back up unless I rebooted. Today, it won't work even if I reboot. I have installed a cool little app called wicme to choose waps, but that didn't fix anything. The odd thing is that I can see the access points when I go to configure it, but
[11:09] <re|run> I can't connect. It's not a WEP issue b/c it does the same thing with open access points. can someone please give me a couple more ideas? I'm a bit of a newbie but I'm really loving ubuntu!!
[11:09] <Johansson> but i've tried with Sendmail (i think it will use postfix)
[11:09] <Johansson> same error :(
[11:09] <lunitik> cion: throw them in /usr/lib/win32
[11:10] <drspin> OMG -- I got an ext filesystem error and it remounted it in read-only now I can't use sudo which means I can't access root which means another hard reboot :'(
[11:10] <ringmauer> how do i see what kernel version i'm running?
[11:10] <cion> lunitik: what u mean throw them?
[11:10] <lunitik> ringmauer: uname -r
[11:10] <ringmauer> tnx
[11:10] <lunitik> cion: put them there
[11:10] <LinuxJones> Is anyone running Breezy ?
[11:11] <lunitik> cion: xine looks there for its codecs
[11:11] <lunitik> LinuxJones: yes
[11:11] <djones> re|run, My wifi works flawlessly. Perhaps it's a driver issue?
[11:11] <LinuxJones> lunitik, how's it working generally ?
[11:11] <re|run> drjones my wifi *worked* flawlessly.
[11:11] <LinuxJones> lunitik, ok ?
[11:11] <cion> lunitik:yeah but where do i get them?
[11:11] <Johansson> sobersabre, found it
[11:11] <lunitik> LinuxJones: afaict, fine
[11:11] <Johansson> it works
[11:11] <Johansson> it's kinda strange
[11:11] <sobersabre> Johansson, what was the prob ?
[11:11] <LinuxJones> lunitik, ok thanks I'm gonna upgrade
[11:11] <cion> lunitik: i m not talking bout codecs, but plugins
[11:11] <re|run> drjones: but it has gotten weird.
[11:12] <lunitik> cion: www.apt-get.org <-- search for w32codecs
[11:12] <Johansson> didn't work because in the receiving options
[11:12] <keffo> hm, again.. what was the wget command for getting everything in a dir?
[11:12] <Johansson> i set the options for another account
[11:12] <re|run> drjones: dunno --- maybe i should just reinstall everything?
[11:12] <re|run> kind of a pain
[11:12] <djones> re|run, did it get wierd when you installed that client software?
[11:12] <Johansson> an account tha doesn't have smtp, but has pop
[11:12] <lunitik> LinuxJones: have fun, and lock libcamel1.2-[0,3]  before upgrading anything
[11:12] <djones> very much a pain
[11:12] <re|run> no .... i was doing that to try to fix it.
[11:12] <sobersabre> what's the latest hoary firefox ?
[11:12] <cion> lunitik:thx ;9
[11:12] <lunitik> LinuxJones: Universe and Main are arguing and stuff... wants to remove evolution and friends
[11:13] <djones> re|run, I don't know if it would be helpful, but I use netapplet to manage my network switching.
[11:13] <Johansson> i've had to set a new account preference, only for sending
[11:13] <looksaus> sobersabre,
[11:13] <looksaus> dpkg -l mozilla-firefox
[11:13] <looksaus> Gewenst=(U)Onbekend/Installeren/Remove/Purge/Hold
[11:13] <looksaus> | Status=Niet/geInstalleerd/Config/Uitgepakt/(F)config-mislukt/Half-geinst
[11:13] <looksaus> |/ Fout?=(geen)/Hold/Reinst nodig/X=beide (Status,Fout: hoofdlett=ernstig)
[11:13] <looksaus> ||/ Naam           Versie         Omschrijving
[11:13] <looksaus> +++-[11:13] <bad_mongo> is there a good idea to install open office 2.0 beta via apt-get, or is it smart to wait for the final release?
[11:13] <looksaus> ii  mozilla-firefo 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
[11:13] <lunitik> bad_mongo: so far, its ok here
[11:13] <Johansson> it didn't work that way with another clients, like sylpheed
[11:13] <rolf_> does anyone here know how to get ventrilo working in wine (or cedega/crossover)?
[11:13] <LinuxJones> lunitik, I'm not worried about that :)
[11:13] <re|run> drjones i don't know that it's a switching issue. i wish i knew command line stuff for wifi-- maybe i could see what was actually happening.
[11:13] <Nomikos> anyone using recite ?
[11:14] <lunitik> looksaus: next time... just give up  'dpkg -l mozilla-firefox | grep ^ii'   flooding is annoying
[11:14] <re|run> It's viewing the WAPs, but it's not connecting.
[11:14] <re|run> and it's not a WEP issue to be certain
[11:14] <djones> re|run, iwconfig for getting the wifi going
[11:14] <djones> re|run, then dhclient
[11:14] <bad_mongo> lunitik, does it replace the existing OO, or will I have 1.1 too, after install?
[11:14] <djones> re|run, ifconfig is also helpful, as is iwscan
[11:14] <lunitik> bad_mongo: the latter
[11:15] <djones> re|run, you can man each of those for specifics
[11:15] <re|run> hmm....
[11:15] <re|run> uh
[11:15] <bad_mongo> lunitik, what do you mean?
[11:16] <lunitik> bad_mongo: both stay
[11:16] <bad_mongo> ok, thank you
[11:17] <Trickyphillips> :O!
[11:17] <Trickyphillips> Wow.
[11:17] <Trickyphillips> http://img109.echo.cx/img109/5302/screenshotsoftwareupdates2gr.png :)
[11:17] <Trickyphillips> When did this happen? 8-)
[11:18] <Johansson> another question, how can i add programs to the gnome menu?
[11:18] <Trickyphillips> Johan: Applications >> System >> Menu editor
[11:18] <Johansson> there some programs that don't get added to the menu
[11:18] <re|run> drjones: according to iwconfig it's working
[11:18] <re|run> but it says there's no bit rate
[11:18] <Nomikos> anyone know how I can fix this -> "waiting for /dev/dsp"
[11:18] <Johansson> um?
[11:19] <djones> re|run, ifconfig
[11:19] <Johansson> i don't have the menu editor
[11:19] <djones> re|run, do you have an IP?
[11:19] <Nomikos> writing to that should make noise, but it doesn't
[11:19] <kakalto> GNOME still doesn't work though
[11:19] <Trickyphillips> Ah.. Are you in Warty, Johansson?
[11:19] <Johansson> no
[11:19] <Johansson> hoary for amd64
[11:20] <Trickyphillips> Hmm. One second, then.
[11:20] <FlyingSquirrel32> one more ??  When my pc boots, it tries to synch the time with ntp.ubuntulinux.org how do I tell it not to?
[11:20] <Johansson> oh, wait
[11:20] <tidalwav1> hi, room
[11:20] <kakalto> guys, GNOME doesn't work, even after deleting the settings files for it
[11:20] <Trickyphillips> Johansson: Type nautilus applications:///Internet into the terminal.
[11:20] <tidalwav1> I'm (sigh) having trouble trying to config a dual-boot system using ntldr and bootpart
[11:20] <Gnome-lover> Hello
[11:20] <mello_> tidalwav1: have you tried the GRUB booter?
[11:21] <Gnome-lover> i have no sound with my ubuntu :(
[11:21] <Johansson> no, i don't have menu editor
[11:21] <tidalwav1> mello_: I don't want to install GRUB on the MBR of my primary windows HD.
[11:21] <tidalwav1> I have two HDs.
[11:21] <tidalwav1> Master: windows.
[11:21] <mello_> tidalwav1: the easiest way i know of that i've done is just using an old junker 10GB for hoary
[11:21] <mello_> ah
[11:21] <tidalwav1> slave: ubuntu.
[11:21] <mello_> ditto
[11:22] <tidalwav1> I'm trying to use NTLDR from my regular windows drive to boot Ubuntu externally.
[11:22] <tidalwav1> it almost works.
[11:22] <mello_> gotcha
[11:22] <bad_mongo> Johansson, you'll find it with apt-cache search
[11:22] <FlyingSquirrel32> how do I send an Alt-Ctl-Del to a VNC server via Terminal Server Client?
[11:22] <tidalwav1> when I choose ubuntu on the ntldr screen
[11:22] <mello_> i thought dual-booting meant you just wanted to pick witch one
[11:22] <tidalwav1> I can eventually get a grub menu
[11:22] <mello_> which*
[11:22] <tidalwav1> mello_: yes
[11:23] <tidalwav1> but it says filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 error 17: cannot mount selected partition
[11:23] <tidalwav1> when I try to boot ubuntu from the grub menu
[11:23] <bad_mongo> Johansson, apt-get install menueditor
[11:23] <tidalwav1> no idea, huh?
[11:24] <mello_> you have 2 harddrives?
[11:24] <Johansson> bad_mongo, i already searched it, apt can't find it
[11:24] <tidalwav1> mello_ yes
[11:24] <mello_> if so, just install hoary on the slave and it'll automatically install the grub booter itself
[11:24] <Johansson> i use universe and multiverse too
[11:25] <mello_> winXP works fine
[11:25] <tidalwav1> mello_ I did
[11:25] <mello_> and hoary doesn't work.. weird
[11:25] <tidalwav1> GRUB is installed on the MBR of the SLAVE
[11:25] <tidalwav1> not the master
[11:25] <bad_mongo> Johansson, sudo apt-cache search menueditor
[11:25] <bad_mongo> that works for me
[11:25] <mello_> tidalwav1: i have my harddrives on cable select if that makes any difference
[11:25] <thegreedyturtle> I've had problems with detecting a hard drive that wasn't my primary master before
[11:26] <Johansson> i'm already as root
[11:26] <Johansson> still can't find it
[11:26] <tidalwav1> what exactly IS cable select?
[11:26] <bad_mongo> weird..
[11:26] <tidalwav1> oh, and I tried changing access type for the slave drive to LBA and large in the bios settings but still nothing.
[11:26] <Johansson> maybe there aren't packages for amd64
[11:27] <dcaballero> i want install projector in my amd 64 wide screen
[11:27] <andrek> anyone here use ubuntu and msi bluetooth dongle?
[11:27] <mikeco> evil bluetooth
[11:27] <thegreedyturtle> tidalwav1: your ide cable has three plugs on it, one for the motherboard, and two for your drives. the one furthest away is the master, the one in the middle is the slave. when you have cableselect jumped, it sets master and slave automatically depending on which plug you used
[11:28] <chimaera> hi..
[11:28] <tidalwav1> well, it should be fine...I have it plugged into the middle and the jumpers are set as slave.
[11:28] <chimaera> is there a helper-app/skript to set up a wifi usb stick or do i have to do this manually?
[11:29] <tidalwav1> I could try cable select, but I don't think it will make a difference, the BIOS recognizes that HD as slave.
[11:30] <dcaballero> i think must install 2 driver 1 to widescrenn and 2 to projector
[11:31] <SQL_Sam> can you be logged into two servers at once on x-chat?
[11:31] <dcaballero> where i see drivers
[11:31] <TestDummy> SQL_Sam: I am right now :P
[11:31] <SQL_Sam> i cant seem to connect to anything but ubuntu?
[11:32] <TestDummy> Do X-Chat > New > Server Tab
[11:32] <drspin> I was able to get booted back into my system and most things seem to be normal --
[11:32] <mcquillg> How does one install something like ssh server _not_ from the CD? (I don't have my CD with me).
[11:32] <TestDummy> Then type in "/server (whatever)"
[11:32] <drspin> usb 1-1: hald timed out on ep0in ???
[11:32] <SQL_Sam> i've done that
[11:32] <TestDummy> And it doesn't work?
[11:33] <SQL_Sam> yah - it tries to connect and times out
[11:33] <rolf_> mcquillg: comment out the lines that contain "cdrom" in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:33] <TestDummy> Try another server perhaps?
[11:33] <mcquillg> rolf_, thanks.
[11:33] <djm62> mcquillg: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:33] <drspin> usbhid: probe of 1-1:1.0 failed with error -5
[11:33] <drspin> ???
[11:33] <drspin> Evaluate _OSC Set fails. Status = 0x0005
[11:33] <drspin> pciehp: add_host_bridge: status 5
[11:33] <drspin> pciehp: Fails to gain control of native hot-plug
[11:33] <TestDummy> SQL_Sam : Are you doing /server irc.(whatever.xxx) or the actual server?
[11:34] <SQL_Sam> i've tried /server irc.mozilla.org
[11:34] <SQL_Sam> trying /server dalnet now...
[11:34] <TestDummy> Ah... hmm..
[11:34] <mcquillg> hmm, port 25 is open by default on an Ubuntu install?
[11:35] <TestDummy> Hm, I connected just fine... wonder what's up with you..
[11:35] <tidalwav1> well, has anyone had experience with the program bootpart to make ntldr boot ubuntu?
[11:35] <LinuxJones> mcquillg, all ports are open by default :)
[11:35] <SQL_Sam> how do I check that - im noob
[11:35] <rerun> djones u there?
[11:35] <mcquillg> LinuxJones, right, but not all ports have services on them.
[11:36] <TestDummy> ?
[11:36] <LinuxJones> mcquillg, must be something out of universe installed
[11:36] <TestDummy> I don't have to but perhaps the port needs to be specified??
[11:36] <mcquillg> yeah, I'm curious, but I don't know the ubuntu setup well enough to figure out what's installed without using the synaptic packagemanager.
[11:37] <tbird> dpkg -l
[11:37] <SQL_Sam> i've tried /server irc.mozilla.org/6667 and still nothing
[11:37] <mcquillg> tbird, thanks.
[11:37] <dataw0lf|w> all ports are open.
[11:37] <LinuxJones> mcquillg, lsof -i will tell you all services running
[11:37] <tbird>  /server irc.mozilla.org 6667
[11:38] <dataw0lf|w> but all ips are denied (ala hosts.deny)
[11:38] <SQL_Sam> * Looking up irc.mozilla.org
[11:38] <SQL_Sam> * Connecting to irc.mozilla.org (1.0.0.0) port 6667...
[11:38] <SQL_Sam> * Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out
[11:38] <SQL_Sam>  Cycling to next server in irc.mozilla.org...
[11:38] <SQL_Sam> * Disconnected ().
[11:38] <SQL_Sam> * Looking up irc.mozilla.org
[11:38] <SQL_Sam> * Connecting to irc.mozilla.org (1.0.0.0) port 6667...
[11:38] <SQL_Sam> * Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out
[11:38] <LinuxJones> mcquillg, that require a network connection that is
[11:38] <SQL_Sam> that is what i'm getting
[11:38] <Ironfrost> hi - I'm trying to kill a program that is not responding
[11:38] <djm62> Ironfrost: kill -9 $PID
[11:38] <munki> 1.0.0.0 port 6667 even ?
[11:38] <Ironfrost> I try 'kill programname' but it tells me arguments must be process or job IDs
[11:38] <Ironfrost> what is $PID?
[11:38] <dataw0lf|w> pkill programname
[11:38] <Ironfrost> I type that as is?
[11:38] <djm62> Ironfrost: pkill programname
[11:39] <steve_> Ironfrost: if its in a window environment can use xkill
[11:39] <Ironfrost> OK
[11:39] <djm62> Ironfrost: no, sorry, that's shorthand
[11:39] <FlyingSquirrel32> what's a good prog to show a slideshow of pictures?
[11:39] <Ironfrost> the pkill worked, thanks a lot
[11:40] <Ironfrost> what is an example of something I should substitute for $PID if I need to use that?
[11:40] <SQL_Sam> what should i be looking at to get this thing working?
[11:40] <djm62> FlyingSquirrel32: gthumb has a slideshow mode
[11:40] <munki> Ironfrost : if you use "px aux" you can see what programs you are running and the pid #
[11:41] <Ironfrost> munki - thanks
[11:41] <djm62> Ironfrost: if you type 'ps aux' and find your process in the list, you can see the PID
[11:41] <TestDummy> SQL_Sam : Can you even ping them?
[11:41] <TestDummy> Er, I mean, do you get any results. Not with xchat I mean, just doing in terminal
[11:41] <SQL_Sam> i'll try that
[11:42] <munki> SQL_Sam : 1.0.0.0 is a very ... ehm.. weird ip
[11:42] <TestDummy> Try the actual IP?
[11:42] <FlyingSquirrel32> djm62 : that's perfect thanks
[11:42] <cens0red> hey is there an app for linux that'll play rmvb files?
[11:43] <b2s> heh, 1.0.0.0 is a bogon last time I checked.
[11:43] <djm62> FlyingSquirrel32: if you want to do a presentation, openoffice will do it, and there is a standalone app to play them
[11:43] <TestDummy> My other guess is you could try doing "/server 207.126.111.200" , which leads to mecha.mozilla.org, from what I got
[11:44] <SQL_Sam> yah it pings
[11:44] <TestDummy> What about the other thing?
[11:44] <SQL_Sam> i get 207.126.111.200
[11:44] <TestDummy> Well, try seeing if "/server 207.126.111.200" will connect you then
[11:44] <SQL_Sam> wholly crap
[11:44] <SQL_Sam> just worked
[11:44] <stazich> hey, has anyone noticed performance differences using the different themes provided by gnome in Warty?
[11:44] <TestDummy> Hmm
[11:45] <TestDummy> I've had this problem before
[11:45] <TestDummy> My DNS was bad... or something
[11:45] <TestDummy> Could only connect using exact IP's
[11:45] <drspin> stazich: the less pretty the theme... the faster things will render typically ;)
[11:45] <TestDummy> Not names.
[11:45] <TestDummy> Odd..
[11:45] <SQL_Sam> that sucks
[11:45] <TestDummy> Yeah, especially since I had to know the IP's to everyting I wanted to use.
[11:45] <slappy18> q/quit
[11:45] <SQL_Sam> were you able to figure out what the problem was?
[11:45] <TestDummy> And if I didn't, couldn't use it.
[11:45] <TestDummy> Nope, I had to wait until they resolved it
[11:45] <TestDummy> Er, yeah
[11:46] <TestDummy> My friend said it was a DNS problem.
[11:46] <drspin> stazich: if you're concerned about speed try using XFCE instead of GNOME
[11:46] <mello_> how do i save a text file with nano?
[11:46] <stazich> yeah
[11:47] <SQL_Sam> okay i got my dns up....
[11:47] <TestDummy> mello_ : I've found it easiest to hit Alt+M to turn on the mouse, click Exit and say Yes to the prompt..
[11:47] <SQL_Sam> i got 192.168.0.1 and 205.171.3.65
[11:47] <mello_> thanks =] 
[11:47] <JStrike> I see Mergeant isn't the repo's. (Or Glom for that matter), Can anybody recommend something similar
[11:47] <melodie> hello to all :)
[11:47] <melodie> I've got an error message when selecting a pilot for the printer
[11:48] <melodie> can someone help about it ?
[11:48] <SQL_Sam> i did some reading on this and dont think 192.168.0.1 does anything - my isp is the 205
[11:48] <melodie> Missing asterisk in column 1 at 1:'/usr/share/ppd/HP/HP-PSC_1210-hpijs.ppd.gz'
[11:48] <TestDummy> Uh..
[11:48] <SQL_Sam> hmmm....  should i be crazy and take it out?
[11:49] <TestDummy> Isn't that a loopback address?
[11:49] <JStrike> hrm...I see Mergeant used to be in there for previous releasesm but not for Breezy
[11:49] <SQL_Sam> lol - hell if I know I'm noob
[11:49] <SQL_Sam> hehe
[11:49] <melodie> someone knows where I can find useful info to browse for the printer ?
[11:49] <Ironfrost> I see Mergeant isn't the repo's. (Or Glom for that matter), Can anybody recommend something similar  <--  I see it on mine. Did you enable the extra repositories?
[11:50] <cens0red> what's helix-player like?
[11:50] <synd> hey guys, i cant hear any sound with Flash
[11:50] <melodie> under Hoary :)
[11:50] <synd> in mozilla
[11:50] <JStrike> Ironfrost : Yes, but I dont think it is in the breezy repo's yet
[11:50] <Ironfrost> melodie - system > administration > printing
[11:50] <melodie> yes
[11:50] <djm62> cens0red: it's gtk2, mostly open-source (NOT free) but it seems to be a bit "hinky" in hoary
[11:50] <Ironfrost> ah, OK, I'm just on hoary
[11:51] <JStrike> cens0red : Good. Totem is better
[11:51] <cens0red> djm62 vas does "hinky" mean?
[11:51] <djm62> cens0red: but it plugs into firefox ok :-/
[11:51] <melodie> then I selected the pilot then I got the message:
[11:51] <synd> anyone have any idea why flash has no sound in firefox?
[11:51] <cens0red> well if it's the same thing as totem, but totem does a better job ... I won't bother with it.
[11:51] <djm62> cens0red: it plays files ok, but seems a bit unresponsive/slow to update
[11:51] <melodie> Missing asterisk in column 1 at 1:'/usr/share/ppd/HP/HP-PSC_1210-hpijs.ppd.gz'
[11:52] <djm62> synd: esd is probably taking up the soundcard
[11:52] <synd> djm62: hm?
[11:52] <melodie> If no one knows I 'll go on the bug report :)
[11:53] <melodie> what esle ?
[11:53] <melodie> else
[11:53] <hybrid> hello ubuntite
[11:53] <hybrid> ^s
[11:55] <djm62> synd: pkill esd
[11:55] <djm62> then try
[11:55] <tidalwav1> I'll try again: anyone have experience with bootpart and ntldr?
[11:55] <djm62> none here
[11:55] <tidalwav1> I'm having dual-boot problems
[11:55] <synd> djm62: ok, i did pkill esd.. xmms stopped
[11:58] <Elsidox> is it just me or can everyone not see text in the flash player for firefox?
[11:58] <synd> Elsidox: well, i cant hear sound
[11:59] <Elsidox> synd, did you try switching your sound system to alsa?
[11:59] <synd> Elsidox: i havent..
[11:59] <Elsidox> synd, theres a guide that shows u how to on the forms
[11:59] <Elsidox> synd, if possible you should =)
[11:59] <synd> Elsidox: you dont have the URL do ya?
[12:00] <Elsidox> synd, u can hear multipule sounds at once 2 =)