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kakaltowho was I just talking to?12:00
Elsidoxsynd, i could go find it12:00
melodietidalwav1: wh12:00
melodiewhat dual-boot pb ?12:00
XplOzIOn2is normal to not see a mplayer controler? i mean when i double click a video it opens mplayer and plays it, but i want it on full screen but i aint able to see options12:01
bpucciohas anyone here heard of GreenZap before? (http://greenzap.com/)12:01
syndElsidox: i cant find it..12:01
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Elsidoxsynd, i told youd id look for it lol12:02
Elsidoxsynd, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=sound+alsa12:02
mattgirvHey I have a Parallel Zip Drive, what would it be.. it isn't /dev/sda? :(12:02
kakaltowhoever I was talking to about the gtk-qt thing, could ya query me again?12:03
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syndElsidox: thanks!12:04
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Elsidoxsynd, np12:04
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slappy16its quiet12:05
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XTCboarderhi!12:06
nickrudhp printers suck12:06
slappy16all printers suck12:06
nickrudor at least the psc's12:06
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slappy16i hate printers12:06
syndepsons are great12:07
XTCboarderi luv'em12:07
melodielol12:07
mattgirvplease helppp :(12:07
mattgirvHey I have a Parallel Zip Drive, what would it be.. it isn't /dev/sda? :(12:07
nickrudhi, slappy1612:07
slappy16i havent owned a printer in i dont know how many years now..but lets just say my last one was a dotmatrix12:07
BazziI hate printers aswell.12:07
slappy16hi nickrud!12:07
BazziI'd like to throw all of um out of the window!12:07
nickrudI do like my brother hl5140, though12:07
nickrudhpoj sucks12:07
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slappy16i print to file12:07
nickrudhplip sucks12:07
slappy16cups or lpr?12:07
nickrudcups, I've always used it, it works, but I want :631!12:08
slappy16thank bog stern has archives on newsgroups12:08
slappy16631 isnt up?12:08
hybridany updates on when breezy will be ready?12:08
kakaltois there anything wrong with cups?12:08
FlyingSquirrel32Any idea how to send an Alt+Ctrl+Del in Term. Serv. Client?12:08
nickrudubuntu modified the source, locked it out (whatever the smiley is for intense anger)12:09
kakaltohybrid, for release? October for testing? now12:09
foolipFleebailey33, won't "sudo restart" do?12:09
hybridkakalto: so i can finally change me sources.list?12:09
hybridwo0t wo0t12:09
slappy16w00t!12:09
kakaltohybrid, sure12:09
syndbah that12:09
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melodiehttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters12:10
melodie HP12:11
melodie12:11
melodiePSC 11xx and 12xx series12:11
melodie12:11
melodiehpijs12:11
melodie12:11
slappy16so in sources you guys cant say unstable?12:11
melodieYes12:11
melodie12:11
melodieYes12:11
melodie12:11
melodieNo special installation required12:11
slappy16err12:11
melodieand it does not work  :s12:11
slappy16flood12:11
djm62:)12:11
melodie;)12:11
mellomy Epson Stylus Color 777 worked great when i told hoary i had one12:11
nickrudmelodie, I just spent the last 2 hours getting 'my' 1210 working12:11
XTCboarderxD12:11
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djm62where the wiki and a real computer conflict....must be a computer problem ;)12:12
XTCboarderi have a bjc1000 not connected :p12:12
hybriddo i apt-get dist-upgrade or apt-get update first12:12
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melodienickrud: did you succeed ?12:12
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nickrudanyone wanna donate a good color laser to a reputable non-profit :)12:12
nickrudmelodie, yea, finally12:12
melodiehow did you do that ?12:13
melodieI've got the same12:13
kakaltois it possible to edit the ubuntu wiki?12:13
kakaltoto add something?12:13
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hybridyes12:13
djm62kakalto: you need to join up12:13
hybridkakalto: isnt that the idea of a wiki?12:13
djm62kakalto: for free, and with no evil12:13
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nickrudI reinstalled hpijs, foomatic-db-hpijs, foomatic-filters, cups, and something else that escapes me at the moment12:14
melodienickrud: I've got this error:12:14
melodie Missing asterisk in column 1 at 1:'/usr/share/ppd/HP/HP-PSC_1210-hpijs.ppd.gz'12:14
swbhello all12:14
melodiewhat's about ?12:14
hybridhi12:14
nickrudlol12:14
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melodiehello swb12:14
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kakaltodjm62, ah sign-up12:14
kakaltothat's a better idea than wikipedia's anyone edirt12:14
kakalto*edit12:14
swbanyone else had any problems getting hardware acceleration going for ATI Radeon 9250s or similar?12:15
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djm62kakalto: ah, yeah...damn wossname...aphasia ;)12:15
nickrudmelodie, sorry, not laughing at you, but the situation :)12:15
kakalto:D12:15
melodieI know I think12:15
swbaimaz, :P12:15
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kakaltois kde's menu in an xml file?12:16
melodiejust I'm helping for a documentation and I'd like to find out for the message error12:16
nickrudtry sudo apt-get install --reinstall cupsys hpijs foomatic-db-hpijs12:16
swbcan anyone help getting an ATI Radeon working with hardware acceleration12:16
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nickrudfoomatic-filters12:16
melodienickrud: ok I'll try that :)12:16
melodieand see anyhow in bug reports site12:17
nickrudfoomatic-db foomatic-db-engine12:17
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nickrudand cross your fingers12:17
melodielol!12:17
spo0nmancafuego, im using it on my laptop right now...12:17
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XplOzIonproblem!.. mplayer wont play in fullscreen12:18
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nickrudkakalto, did you ever get your oggs to mp3s12:18
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kakaltonickrud, nope12:18
kakaltoI got over it12:18
t3rrorcan anyone suggest a decent linux solution to be a backup server for windows machines?12:19
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nickrud:)12:19
XplOzIonmplayer doesnt strech movie screen size to full screen, it fill that space with "black"12:19
kakaltobut... windows has a program that does it, linux I couldn't get it working :(12:19
spo0nmanXplOzIon, -fs -zoom12:19
kakalto!12:19
kakaltoIdea12:19
spo0nmanXplOzIon, want to do a  -framedrop too maybe...12:19
kakaltoI could try to wine teh win program for converting ogg 2 mp312:19
EvilSporkManspo0nman: you're kidding! I thought that was because of nondebian packages!12:19
nickrudwine is evil :)12:19
EvilSporkMankakalto: or you could just pipe the output of oggdec into lame12:20
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spo0nmanEvilSporkMan, what are you talking about?12:20
EvilSporkManspo0nman: mplayer fullscreen12:20
clainthi. how can i find out which package a program/file belongs to?12:20
smorecoding mp3 to ogg is a bad idea.  Going from one lossy format to another lossy format just looses more fidelity.  Either re-encode from the original source, or stick with what you've got12:20
kakaltoEvilSporkMan, I tried lots of things to do with oggdec and lame, and they didn't seem to work12:20
XplOzIonspo0nman, where i do add that?12:20
smoclaint: dpkg -S /path/to/file12:20
EvilSporkMankakalto: man oggdec, man lame is all i have to say12:20
fooliptranscoding is bad, mkay12:20
spo0nmanEvilSporkMan, i never used any kind of debian/nondebian/marlyn non marlyn packages i compile my own.12:21
t3rrorno takers on a backup solution?12:21
EvilSporkManand yes, transcoding is bad12:21
kakaltosmo, no.12:21
spo0nmanEvilSporkMan, and -fs -zoom works for me12:21
mishofQ: what app can i use to make an audio cd into mp3s?12:21
kakaltosmo, I can't stick with what I have12:21
claintthanks smo12:21
kakaltosmo, my mp3 player doesn't support ogg12:21
EvilSporkManspo0nman: yeah, i didn't realize mplayer had that option12:21
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foolipmishof, grip is nice12:21
EvilSporkMankakalto: should've got an OGG player =P perhaps a nice GP32?12:21
nickrudXplOzIon, I needed to modify ./etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf for vo=xv12:21
kakaltoEvilSporkMan, true :P12:21
EvilSporkManhow's ubuntu-amd64?12:21
foolipkakalto, have you gotten oggdec to output some niceness?12:22
mishoffoolip, thanks ill try it12:22
XplOzIonnickrud, that way it plays in full screen?12:22
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spo0nmanEvilSporkMan, best part is I associate media files as gmplayer -fs -zoom  in natulius and my girlfriend can play all the movies she likes....12:22
kakaltofoolip, nope, and I can't really be bothered messing with it right now12:22
nickrudyou can even risize the window with the mouse12:22
foolipkakalto, you *did* want to transcode vorbis to mp3, right?12:22
nickrudwhen you hit full screen, it'll zoom12:23
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kakaltofoolip, yup12:23
spo0nmanXplOzIon, when you are running mplayer pass it as command line option ... also do a man mplayer12:23
XplOzIonnickrud, thats the problem it doesnt zoom the video12:23
kakaltofoolip, I might mess with it later. Or possibly just brew up an anti-mp3 argument in my head...12:24
spo0nmanis gaim-vv in the universe?12:24
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spo0nmanzilch12:24
kakaltoperhaps I'll complain to the makers of my mp3 player12:24
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EvilSporkMankakalto: ogg needs more computing power than MP312:24
kakaltocomplain they support mp3 & wma not ogg12:24
kakaltoah12:25
kakaltothat makes teh sense12:25
nickrudthe xv option does for me12:25
SeamusLPspo0nman:  Congratulations! come on down, come on down.  You're the lucky person who gets to make a package for the greater good of all!12:25
spo0nmanSeamusLP, :)12:26
spo0nmanSeamusLP, i have never read the debian package maintainer's guide12:26
djm62what is a good ogg player?12:26
EvilSporkManSeamusLP spo0nman : here's your package: ./configure --prefix=/usr && make && sudo make install12:26
djm624G plus12:26
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resiakdjm62: ogg123, cplay, mpd, rhythmbox, xmms, noatun, juk12:27
SeamusLPEvlSporkMan:  That's not quite for the greater good of all, now is it?12:27
nickrudhe could always do a checkinstall, and submit that :)12:27
djm62resiak: not that side...no dearth of them: hard disk protable12:27
EvilSporkManSeamusLP: sure it is - it saves all of us the headache of making a package12:27
mcquillgCan someone recommend a decent editor that will connect via ssh/sftp to edit files in Universe?12:27
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nickrudmcquillg, emacs, vim, nano12:27
SeamusLPEvilSporkMan:  Well I say you're killing two birds with one stone by encouraging him to make a package himself ;)12:27
spo0nmanSeamusLP, ok honestly tell me how much time will it take? and is there a simple deb that i can untar change and retar to make a package?12:27
EvilSporkManSeamusLP: though honestly...i'll package it for amd64 right after spo0nman comes up with i386 =P12:27
resiakdjm62: Either the iRiver ones, or the Rio Karma.12:28
resiakdjm62: Those are the only ones.12:28
EvilSporkManspo0nman: the problem is that you get to maintain the package as new versions of gaim-vv come out12:28
mcquillgYay Karma.12:28
djm62damn...are iRiver nice?12:28
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SDrhm12:28
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SeamusLPspo0nman:  I've made a simple pkg from source before.  Nothing too complicated.  There are guides out there, though.12:29
resiakdjm62: I want an iRiver, since they just use usb-storage to transfer stuff. Rio Karma uses a Java applet :|12:29
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djm62mcquillg: I just opened a remote sftp file in gedit...if you have the server in "Places" it's a double click12:29
SDrI don't have any cd drives, nor any floppy drives; is there a way to install ubuntu w/out emulating another pc?12:29
pixil9SDr: Install it with knoppix live cd.12:29
SeamusLPspo0nman:  I have yet to come across something that needs packaging that isn't maintained by someone else, though.12:30
pixil9sorry i didn't read12:30
SeamusLPspo0nman:  That I need I mean ;)12:30
SDrpixil9, as I pointed out, I don't have any cdroms.12:30
djm62resiak: I'm not ideological about it, but all my CDs are ripped to ogg...almost as bad as AAC :-/12:30
pixil9SDr: You can do a net install of debian-sarge.. upgrade to sid then upgrade to hoary12:30
spo0nmanSeamusLP, show me a guide. or some link on ubuntu-devel12:30
pixil9though it worked for some ppl.. failed for me12:30
EvilSporkMandjm62: what's wrong with OGG? I rip in all OGG because it's not patented12:30
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djm62EvilSporkMan: nothing's wrong with it, but try getting the consumer portables :(12:31
SeamusLPspo0nman:  Do a wiki search.  http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org  I'm sure I saw one there12:31
EvilSporkMandjm62: i have a GP3212:31
pixil9SDr: Does it have a nic?12:31
EvilSporkMandjm62: i suppose you could get 32 memory cards...12:31
SDrpixil9, nope.12:31
pixil9lol.12:31
SeamusLPdmj62:  I rip in nothing but ogg.  If I wanted to I could get a portable ogg player as well.  That's good enough for me.12:31
mishofQ: the xorg configuration file that is used is located at /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? (i know its there, but wanna know if thats the one used by ubuntu ..)12:31
resiakdjm62: I'll probably be getting an iRiver soon.12:31
pixil9Are you going to handtype ubuntu onto it?12:31
mjrmishof, in Hoary, yes12:32
djm62I meant...if I wanted to play iTunes files, I'd need an iPod, if I want to play ogg, perversely, I don't have much more choice12:32
mishofaight thanks :)12:32
pixil9Would anyone be able to tell me why a script i put in /etc/init.d with +x won't run on bootup?12:32
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pixil9I can run it fine manually12:32
mjrpixil9, it's not supposed to12:33
smopixil9: You've linked it to the appropriate /etc/rc?.d  ?12:33
nickrud-awaypixil9, man update-rc.d12:33
pixil9oh I didn't know I had to do that12:33
mjrpixil9, the links in rc?.d control what's actually run and when12:33
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mishofWhere can i find information about xorg.conf that hoari uses ? im afraid the guide im reading might use some xorg.conf syntax that is outdated ..12:34
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mishofnvm12:35
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nickrudmishof, you could try http://x.org :)12:36
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pixil9Which runlevel would I want to add it to.. it just runs ln -s /dev/radio0 /dev/radio12:39
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pixil9i did update-rc.d radio defaults and it added it to all of the sections12:39
nickrudpixil9, that's exactly how it's supposed to do it :)12:40
mishofCan someone guide me (or link me to a guide) on howto patch the kernel (hoary, 2.6.10) with a diff file ? its REALLY important to me ...12:40
pixil9o.12:40
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FlyingSquirrel32How do I search recursivly for a file12:40
resiakFlyingSquirrel32: man find12:40
pixil9I don't get it. Do you know any docs that explain why that is?12:40
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resiakmishof: What you want to patch in?12:41
minkis there a file(shellscript) that is executed on startup?12:41
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nickrud2,3,4,5 are all identical.  I once, as a lark, set up my runlevels so that 2 was my desktop12:41
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mishofresiak, support for my tablet driver (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/septieme/acecad/kernel.html)12:42
nickrud3 was a server http/ntp/apache sever, and 4 an mldonkey server12:42
resiakmishof: *shrug* tldp might help12:42
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nickrudtalking about this is kinda frowned about in ubuntu, tho :)12:42
SeamusLPAmaranth:  I think that bittorrent 4.0 doesn't allow more than 3 simultaneous connections.  Perhaps this should be changed?12:43
mishofresiak, tldp ??12:43
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FlyingSquirrel32resiak: I've been fighting with that for a while.12:43
AmaranthSeamusLP: It doesn't?12:43
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FrederickHi folks can anyone help me to set a safe fstab config?12:43
AmaranthI could have sworn I had all 5 or so episodes of the scene downloading at once.12:43
FlyingSquirrel32resiak: like this $find -depth 5 path filename12:43
resiakmishof: tldp.org12:43
SeamusLPAmaranth:  Not connections, torrents I meant12:43
SeamusLPAmaranth:  Check the FAQ out12:43
pixil9SeamusLP, maybe you should get rid of the piece of shit and install Azureus.12:43
resiakFlyingSquirrel32: That's not how you use it. man find .12:43
resiakFlyingSquirrel32: Look at the -name option12:43
resiakFlyingSquirrel32: find path -depth 5 -name filename12:44
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SeamusLPpixil9:  Azureus is a bloated java program, and it looks like shit.12:44
FrederickHi folks can anyone help me to set a safe fstab config? I have it here http://rafb.net/paste/results/1XqIVP64.html12:44
FlyingSquirrel32resiak: Oh, I wasn't sure where to put the option, thanks.12:44
FrederickI want my user to listen mp3 from the fat12:44
mishofresiak, but im looking for something specific to ubuntu ... otherwise it might differ ..12:44
AmaranthSeamusLP: "For this reason, BitTorrent allows up to three simulataneous torrents, however, running BitTorrent this way all the time is not recommended and will likely hurt BitTorrent's overall performance."12:45
AmaranthSeamusLP: I'll look into it.12:45
resiakmishof: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html # I assume that Ubuntu use kernel-package12:45
a_peckhow do I change my preferred media player to totem? mplayer is bugging with divx encoding12:45
Amaranthresiak: You can use it, yes.12:45
SeamusLPAmaranth:  I may go digging through the code in a sec.  It may just be implemented as a constant.12:45
djm62Frederick: should be vfat12:45
pixil9LOL12:45
pixil9Azureus is the best torrent client out there.12:45
Frederickdjm62, thx12:45
AmaranthSeamusLP: I'll do it when I change the resize stuff.12:46
pixil9Have fun using the one window one downloading at 10 kB/s12:46
mishofresiak, looks good, ill try it12:46
pixil9hahahaha.12:46
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djm62Frederick: also, in the options column you'll want user,rw12:47
SeamusLPpixil9:  Flame flame flame, whatever.12:47
Frederickdjm62, added12:47
flameshi12:47
djm62Frederick: or possibly ro (but it's handy to be able to transfer files occasionally)12:47
FlyingSquirrel32resiak: This still isn't working :/        find /home/user/.wine -depth 5 -name winecfg  --> find: paths must precede expression12:47
Frederickdjm62, do you know a good doc about it? I know my cdrom line e also wrong12:48
sebesthello anyone sync his phone with evolution?12:48
AmaranthSeamusLP: In the config set advanced to true.12:48
pr3vi0uz how do u install  a deb file?12:48
AmaranthSeamusLP: That'll make it resizeable at least.12:48
sebesti'd like to buy a phone well support under linux, any advice?12:48
] BreliC[pr3vi0uz, dpkg -i filename.deb12:48
resiakFlyingSquirrel32: Then I'm baffled -- find still scares me:)12:48
djm62Frederick: why did you change the cdrom line?12:48
Frederickdjm62, I havent changed yet12:49
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FlyingSquirrel32Anyone understand "Find" here?12:49
nickrudlol12:49
] BreliC[resiak, don't feel bad... find scares me too.  i've switched to locate12:49
Frederickdjm62, but that was somethinh like iso-xyz,noauto,user and a bunch of more stuff to make it safe12:49
SeamusLPAmaranth:  What config?12:49
nickrudfind is <hard>12:49
] BreliC[problem is that running the updatedb each night while using the machine as a pvr seems to make it run like molasses12:49
djm62Frederick: under standard ubuntu install, CDs are mounted on insertion (ooh er missus)12:50
FlyingSquirrel32nickrud: I love the GUI search of ubuntu, but no recursiveness12:50
AmaranthSeamusLP: ~/.bittorrent/data/ui_config set advanced to 112:50
Frederickbrb12:50
AmaranthSeamusLP: Looks like you can set min/max port in there too.12:50
nickrudFlyingSquirrel32, that's what I use, or else updatedb and locate with some greps12:50
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nickrudI can get my mind around that :)12:51
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: what are you looking for?12:51
AmaranthSeamusLP: That'll give you lots of shiny info about the running torrents too, kinda cool.12:51
flameswhat is the progressbar under the nicklist in in x-chat?12:51
flames-in12:52
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Bazzilag bar12:52
AmaranthSeamusLP: I'll probably make the resize stuff a seperate option though.12:52
flamesthx12:52
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: A file named winecfg thats supposed to be in my wine installation.12:52
SeamusLPAmaranth:  Nice man.  Do all package maintainers put that much care into their packages?12:52
AmaranthSeamusLP: Yeah, probably.12:53
AmaranthSeamusLP: I'm not a good packager though, I don't have a diff.gz of my changes. :)12:53
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: from your home directory: find ./ -name winecfg12:54
SeamusLPAmaranth:  In the config it seems to say that max_files_open is set to 50...12:54
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djm62(rusty, so just tested that here)12:55
AmaranthSeamusLP: That's probably files, not torrents.12:55
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AmaranthSeamusLP: For multi-file torrents.12:55
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SeamusLPAmaranth:  Right12:56
AmaranthSeamusLP: I'll dig into it when I redo this to be a good package.12:56
djm62(find is baroque)12:56
djm62did we get a url for packaging?12:56
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SeamusLPAmaranth:  Alright man, cool12:56
SQL_Samwhat is an .xpi file do?12:56
djm62SQL_Sam: installing mozilla add-ons12:57
djm62SQL_Sam: or firefox ones12:57
SQL_Samk - good i got one now how do i use it?12:57
djm62SQL_Sam: cross-platform installer12:57
djm62SQL_Sam: open the directory in firefox, and click on the file12:57
SQL_Samwhat is that?12:57
SQL_Samohh12:57
djm62SQL_Sam: the idea is you do it straight from the web, rather than downloading them12:58
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djm62Anyone suggest some funky and clean backgrounds?12:59
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axhello, i have a couple questions, the FAQ tells me how to edit the gnome menu nothing it says to do works12:59
axalso i cannot get xterm to change font size (using -fs 20 or whatever)01:00
axany ideas?01:00
djm62ax: are you using xterm or gnome-terminal?01:00
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: I need to use -depth but can't get it to work.01:01
minkis there a file(shellscript) that is executed on startup?01:01
axright now i'm using gnome-terminal but i'd like to use xterm, but i cannot get the font size to increase01:01
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: I think depth is used to limit rather than extend the search01:01
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djm62FlyingSquirrel32: at least, find ./ java-archive.* searched recursively to depth 2 here01:02
limerhow do I check to see if java jre is installed on my machine?01:02
Bazzilimer run java --version01:03
SeamusLPdjm62:  You mean like a color scheme or a background image? I just use a gradiant that fades left to right from black to that reddish-brown that's included in the default ubuntu theme01:03
limerBazzi: thx, will do01:03
Bazziif theres no such command it aint installed01:03
limeryes, I see01:03
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: let me try a test.01:03
limerI don't see it in synaptic01:03
flameswhere can i find a good samba config howto to make a network between winxp and ubuntu? i want save my files from xp to ubuntu01:04
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djm62SeamusLP: I'm kind of after unobtrusive tiling...but really something a bit different, Propaganda was good for a while01:04
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limerBazzi: does it have an entry in synaptic?  I used the word "java" -- maybe it goes by something else01:04
Bazzilimer no, it does not.01:04
Bazziyou have to install it manually.01:04
Bazzibut ubuntuguide.org should have a tutorial for that01:04
pixil9limer: I know how01:05
SysFailanybody have a problem updating the kde libs???01:05
limerths01:05
limer*thx01:05
pixil9limer: Go download the 1.4.2 jre from java.sun.com01:05
pixil9http://java.sun.com01:05
pixil9get java-package01:05
limerI'm looking at java.sun.com as we speak :P01:05
djm62I thought there might be some discerning aesthetes here ;)01:06
limerwhy 1.4.2?  I was going to do J2SE 5.0 Update 201:06
limerif poss01:06
pixil9limer: Well get 5.0 then doesn't matter01:06
pixil9limer: then run make-jpkg jreblahblah5.0.bin01:06
pixil9then dpkg -i java.deb01:06
limerty pixil901:07
pixil9np.. someone told me about it the other day01:07
pixil9works good01:07
limerI hope so as I use quite a few java apps in windows -- preparing for linux as main os ;)01:07
Bazzihehe01:08
djm62limer: what ones?01:08
limerpauker01:08
BazziI'll be preparing my migration as well.01:08
limermedia library01:08
limerboth great apps01:08
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djm62limewire?01:08
limerjbidwatcher01:08
marskaHello.. How do I enable Universal repositories?01:08
limerbelieve it or not, no limewire for me01:08
Bazziazureus *cough*01:09
limertorrent and dc++ are enough for me ;)01:09
SeamusLPAmaranth:  advanced = 1 is doing some whacked out shit.  Wouldn't recommend it, ever.01:09
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limerand I agree with Bazzi - Azureus kicks arse01:09
djm62BT doesn't work for me...damn NAT01:09
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Bazzidjm62 setup the ports correctly ;)01:10
krusbjorng'night01:10
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djm62Bazzi: not my nat :(01:10
pixil9limer: azureus is amazing.01:10
tcwdhmm... for some reason, gimp isn't working01:10
tcwdthe executable file has a lock on it01:10
marskaHello.. How do I enable Universal repositories?01:10
Bazzidjm62 ohnoes :(01:10
pixil9marska: http://www.ubuntuguide.org01:10
FlyingSquirrel32marska: check out ubuntuguide.org has lots of good info01:10
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djm62I could just set it up, but it would be rude and technically unnecessary01:11
SeamusLPAmaranth:  Also it deleted the advanced=1 line after I restarted the app.01:11
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: have you configured wine already?01:11
] BreliC[pixil9, it is nice, but java makes it slow01:11
limerpixil9: couldn't agree more -- I used the default win32 bt client and hated it.  love sf.net so I took a look and have never had the desire to find another bt client01:11
pixil9It's not slow01:11
pixil9wtf01:11
pixil9do you run a p1 233?01:11
FlyingSquirrel32I think so. :)01:11
] BreliC[nope01:12
axso any idea why the stuff in the faq that says to right click on the menu in order to add stuff to it doesn't work? and the nautalis applications:/// thing doesn't work eiterh01:12
limerit eats a bit more memory, that's true -- but I will trade it for it's greatness any day :D01:12
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: The fake windows seems to be all set up if that's what you mean.01:12
FlyingSquirrel32djm62 : never found my file.01:12
] BreliC[for downloading large files and many of them, i'll always pick command line over gui because it's nice and quick01:12
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: I think it doesn't exist01:13
pixil9You think that command line is going to speed up your downloads?01:13
pixil9lol.01:13
djm62] BreliC[: I don't think that it's cpu/memory limited01:13
nickrudax, they cut menu edit out just before release, because it wasn't quite good enough, and01:13
] BreliC[pixil9, no, it's not the downloads that are slow, the program01:13
nickruddidn't have time to update the docs :)01:13
pixil9azureus is slow?01:13
limeram I not able to ./ if permissions are 644?01:13
axahh, so is there a way to edit the menu?01:13
Ironfrostax: it doesn't work, but there is a third party program that does so01:13
pixil9I hit 600+ kB/s regularly using azureus01:13
] BreliC[yes, slower to respond to things after a while of running because of java01:13
nickrudmenu editing is in the wiki, I think01:13
limerdoesn't seem to matter on the deb packages I have in that folder01:13
] BreliC[makes the machine crawl01:13
chazwurth] BreliC[: And why touch a mouse when you don't need to? :)01:14
djm62limer: +x premissions are special on directories01:14
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axIronfrost: what is it?01:14
] BreliC[chazwurth, exactly!01:14
Ironfrosthttp://myosc.org/ubuntuguide/menueditor_0.4.3ubuntu1_all.deb01:14
limerdjm62: I don't follow, it's a file01:14
Ironfrosthttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor01:14
FlyingSquirrel32I'm trying to follow directions from frankscorner.org/index.php?p=wtlib2003 I did it once before.01:14
Ironfrostthere's a thread on the forums that probably has a more recent version, but that seems to work for now01:14
djm62"am I not able to ./ if p..." ?01:14
] BreliC[pixil9, again, i'm not talking the *speed* of downloads.. that's fine.. just that java programs in general are slower that's all01:14
limerdjm62: to "run" a file at cli, it's ./ correct?  maybe I'm just dead wrong here :D01:15
djm62limer: ./ is "this directory" (the directory you're in)01:15
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limerright, I understand b/c of the "dot".  where .. would be "parent of"01:16
djm62limer: if you want to run a file in your current directory, you use that01:16
limerdjm62: use the "dot"?01:16
djm62limer: otherwise your shell searches along a series of standard locations for executables01:16
pixil9I've never noticed azureus run slow01:17
pixil9running*01:17
djm62limer: yeah, tha dott :-/01:17
pixil9it runs fine01:17
SysFaili can sit and watch azureus consume ram01:17
pixil9and uses like 2% of my memory and 3% of my cpu01:17
limerdjm62: that's weird, I can't autocomplete with tab01:17
djm62limer: to see where your shell searches otherwise, type "echo $PATH" literally01:17
FlyingSquirrel32when my pc boots, it tries to sync the time with ntp.ubuntulinux.org. how do I stop it from happening?01:17
SysFaillonger it runs the more the system crawls01:17
WhiteRabbitSysFail, what is your java version01:17
djm62limer: also the first stage to find out why tab-completion isn't working01:18
Mipfihow can i install new themes and icons in xfce that i have downloadet ?01:18
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djm62limer: damn...I forgot your original query... odd numbers are executable, evens aren't01:19
SysFailjava version "1.5.0_02"01:19
axow can i use a different window manager? like openbox01:19
flameshas gnome a filemanager like kde krusader?01:19
limer/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games01:19
djm62so 644 isn't...you want 74401:19
djm62and it won't tab-complete if it isn't executable01:19
limerinteresting01:19
djm62to change the permissions "chmod +x filename"01:19
] BreliC[SysFail, yeah, it's crazy how the computer becomes slow after overnight downloading with Azureus...01:20
limer744 still requires "sudo" correct?01:20
] BreliC[really annoys me01:20
b2sdjm62: you rarely ever want 744.  probaly you mean either 700 or 75501:20
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limersince only root would have x01:20
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chazwurthax: apt-get install openbox, or use synaptic to do it01:20
axi have installed it01:20
smoucheare there no channel ops available for #kubuntu?  lately it's just homophobic tirades and rants about politicians in there.01:21
mkdehi there, does anyone know anything about video player plugins for firefox? I've installed mozilla-mplayer, but its not working great: I can't control the video at all (i.e. restart, pause etc) and its generally rubbish. Can anyone help me?01:21
djm62limer: chmod +x will make it executable to everyone, and you will still need sudo (and think about where the file came from_01:21
chazwurthax: I have to run for 15 min. or so, if you still need help when I get back, feel free to grab me01:21
limerdjm62: but to execute it would simply be "dot"filename ?01:21
djm62limer: yes :)01:22
limernotice "." didn't show in echo $PATH01:22
mkde./01:22
djm62limer: that's why you have to type it01:22
b2ssmouche: that sucks.  are there channels like ubuntu-ot or ubuntu-chat or kubuntu-discussion or anything like that?01:22
limerI was reading in "running linux" that dot should be in path01:22
limerI see01:22
mkdeb2s, smouche there is an #ubuntu-offtopic chan, but of course you can create more01:22
smoucheb2s -- don't know, there should be.  I could argue with the guy, but it would just encourage him.01:23
limerinteresting.  so windows essentially tells it to run any executable in it's own dir01:23
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mkdeanyone on my plugin question??01:23
djm62limer: you wouldn't want to accidentally download a file which would have the same name as a common command and do something quite different... . in $PATH is a matter of taste, though01:23
b2ssmouche: maybe you can convince him/them to go to that other channel01:23
mkdesmouche, yeah normally asking someone to go to #ubuntu-offtopic politely will work01:23
smouchethanks, mkde.  Next time I'm in there I'll put #ubuntu-offtopic up -- and probably join it myself!01:23
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limer:P01:24
limerdjm62: so you know, I could ./ after sudo but not "."01:24
limer./ worked01:24
limerI think I must have misunderstood you earlier01:25
djm62limer: yeah...I seem to have verbally whipped myself :-/01:25
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] BreliC[OFF-TOPIC for one sec ;)  Does anyone know how to grab a list of all channels (in IRC) but specify a search string?  I'm using xChat01:25
mkdeyes01:26
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mkde] BreliC[, /cs list *example*01:26
] BreliC[mkde, ahh, thanks01:26
qwehow would I config the firewall to allow connections on port X?01:26
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tomukashi, is there something like an .aspx-plugin for rythmbox?01:27
djm62qwe: I believe the ports are open, but with no services running, by default01:27
limerdjm62: hmmm.  I guess it would be dot and then slash to represent a directory01:27
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limeris that a fair analogy?01:27
djm62limer: the slash is to separate the "." directory name from the filename in that directory01:27
jubeiDo I have to run anything after I have modified /boot/grub/menu.lst ?01:27
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limerI see01:28
mkdejubei, update-grub, if you've maintained the debian style configuration format in there01:28
djm62limer: filenames which start with a dot are allowed, and are traditionally hidden01:29
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limerdjm62: right, unless you -a with ls01:29
djm62limer: yeah...not actually hidden, just kept from annoying you01:29
qwedjm62: really? well, I apt-get'd ircd-hybrid but my other boxen can't connect to it01:29
limerhmmm.  so to exec a hidden file >> ./.filename ?01:29
sick-headacheanyone here thats good with xhtml and css?01:29
djm62qwe: is it running and configured?01:30
qweit's running with the default config01:30
limerdjm62: or must it be "unhidden" first?01:30
djm62sick-headache: I've done a fair bit, if it's not too horrible01:30
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djm62limer: no, you were quite right ./.file01:30
sick-headachedju62 no it fairly easy01:30
sick-headachei pm you01:30
jubeimkde: but how does update-grub know not to "generate the menu.lst"?01:30
limerdjm62: thx bro, good to know01:31
mkdejubei, i don't know much about it, but it does the biz.01:31
djm62anytime01:31
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jubeimkde: cause the manual says first time you run it i generates the list01:31
djm62;)01:31
axok, so that is better :) (using open box now) but xterm still won't use anthing other than the default font size01:31
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jubeimkde: then "The user must set the two options update-grub uses. Then re-run the update-grub script to update the menu.lst file using the default's that have been set"01:32
djm62band practise night...consumption has been quite adequate01:32
limerhahaha01:32
jubeimkde: So I wanna know its not gonna generate the list. I want it just to update with my additions.01:32
mkdejubei, you can trust the manual more than me01:33
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limerwoot!  I just thought that I can always lynx file.html if I lose X windows01:33
jubei=)01:33
limerslackware taught me some lessons too :D01:33
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: How can I apend a letter to the names of all of the files in a dir?01:33
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: you want the "rename" command or a very small shell script01:33
mkdejubei, try without doing it, see if your changes have been applied01:33
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djm62FlyingSquirrel32: "mv" definitely _isn't_ what you wat01:34
nickrudlol01:34
jubeimkde, well I havnt run it once yet. Surly you have to run it at least once. I did with lilo01:34
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mkdejubei, give it a try :) grub works differently to lilo01:35
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: looks like I also need to learn perl.01:35
pretender84will resizing a reiserfs partition through partition magic damage the linux installation contained on it at all?01:35
cens0redhey I just installed firestarter, and went through wizard process. Is that all I need to do with it? Is there no further set up needed?01:35
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: "rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' *"  will do what I need.01:36
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djm62FlyingSquirrel32: 0-001:36
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: I have no idea what you need...01:36
helloyois there a fix to hal?01:37
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: didn't work. How do I append a letter to all of the names?01:38
mkdehelloyo, what's wrong with it?01:38
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FlyingSquirrel32djm62: I've got two big folders of pics (from my vacation :) ) and I want to put them in the same folder. but must have diff. names.01:39
limerpretender84: I've known older versions of PQMagic to screw things up01:39
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limereven with standard NTFS or FAT3201:39
qwedoes ubuntu come with sshd preconfigured?01:39
bpuccioqwe: no01:40
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qwebpuccio: no wonder01:40
qwewhat's the package name?01:40
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mkdeopenssh-server qwe01:41
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] BreliC[FlyingSquirrel32, what about using 'basename'?01:41
qwethanks mkde01:41
bpuccioqwe: brian@alpha:~ $ apt-cache search sshd01:41
bpuccioopenssh-server - Secure shell server, an rshd replacement01:41
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j-meI've just upgraded from warty to hoary, and I'm having troubles with playing oggs/mp3 from my gnump3d server (works fine on a debian Sarge desktop I have)01:42
] BreliC[as in 'for i in *.jpg; do rename `basename $i`$i + 'a'; done01:43
limerhmmm.  I installed java and can't use it at the cli01:43
] BreliC[or something similar01:43
] BreliC[syntax is wrong i'm sure01:43
j-merhythmbox seems retarded, and xmms and beep just freeze01:43
j-meany ideas?01:43
mkdej-me, can you play local mp3s ok?01:44
tomukasand is one of them able to play aspx?01:44
FlyingSquirrel32j-me: whats wrong with RB01:44
j-meI don't have any.01:44
j-meI use my home server wherever I go..01:44
limerahh01:44
j-meRB bails saying...01:44
mkdej-me, transfer one and test? it would be good to rule out that option01:44
helloyomkde, sorry, i always get a hal error, and my desktop doesn't load properly, i removed it (along with gnome-volume manager), which stopped the problem, but with a loss of functionability01:44
j-meThere is no element present to handle the stream's mime type application/x-id301:44
tomukasokidoki01:45
chazwurthlimer: Not in your path?01:45
FlyingSquirrel32j-me: what are you playing?01:45
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mkdehelloyo, have you tried with a fresh user? If your system is upgraded properly and you get the bug with a fresh user, then file a bug01:45
mkdeFlyingSquirrel32, ^^01:45
j-meFlyingSquirrel32: what in terms of music?01:46
limerchazwurth: yeah, I had to ./01:46
mkdej-me, transfer one and test? it would be good to rule out that option01:46
limeronly one problem, I don't want it installed there01:46
j-mesure. will do01:46
FlyingSquirrel32j-me: what type of file, mp3's?01:46
limerI wasn't thinking.  /bin/java would make more sense01:46
mkdeFlyingSquirrel32, mp3 and ogg01:46
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mrproperI haven't seen an update in Ubuntu Horay since it went stable.  Is this right?01:47
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mkdemrproper, nor me01:47
k4rlin http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/04/11/ubuntu section starting and stopping, point 21, anyone know how to fix that?01:47
chazwurthlimer: Mine's in /usr/java/; that's where Sun's installer put it.01:47
nickrudyou guys don't run kde then :)01:47
k4rlmy eth0 interface is only extremely rarely connected,01:47
limerchazwurth: do you know how I can safely kill it so I can reinstall?01:47
j-memp3 for the particular one I mentioned. I'll try ogg01:47
mrpropermkde, Oh okay, cool.01:47
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chazwurthlimer: What installation method did you use? Most likely you can just remove the directory.01:48
cens0redHey I installed firestarter, and now it won't let me connect to my psybnc. Where can I set the rules to make it allow it?01:48
limerself installing binary01:48
mkdek4rl, not that I know of01:48
k4rlwell that sucks.01:48
chazwurthlimer: Yeah, just remove the directory it created for itself.01:48
mkdek4rl, yes i agree with you/him. You can remove the service of course01:48
k4rlthanks, I guess :)01:48
limerI'm not sure why sun would want /usr/java01:48
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: what are your filenames?01:49
limerI was thinking /bin/java01:49
FlyingSquirrel32j-me: I'm a noob too, but do you need to install codecs? I don't think so but perhaps.01:49
limerbut what do I know01:49
k4rlI guess removing the service is probably best, I don't want to just outright disable eth0,01:49
mkdek4rl, maybe check bugzilla just in case they don't know about it01:49
j-meogg works01:49
k4rlthough I'd really like it to be a bit smarter if the interface doens't have link.01:49
mkdej-me, ok then i guess you don't have mp3 support01:49
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: dscn0050.jpg is an example01:49
j-me? what ? isn't that a redhatism?01:50
nickrudcens0red, there's a couple of tabs or something on the gui. you can open or close ports or hosts there01:50
mkdej-me, are you talking to me?01:50
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j-memkde : yes - sorry01:50
mkdej-me, cool thanks, just that the channel moves fast01:51
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: and you have identically-named files in different directories?01:51
chazwurthlimer: You might make links at, for example, /bin/java or /usr/bin/java; but it would be silly to put all of the installed files in those places.01:51
cens0rednickrud can't find a tab that enables me to do that.01:51
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FlyingSquirrel32djm62: some yes01:51
mkdej-me, you won't have mp3 support by default. check out http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats for information on what you don't have that you might want01:51
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nickrudbeen a while, I guess I might as well start a firewall :)01:51
j-memkde: ahh - ta. will do01:51
limerwish me luck, first time rm -rf ;)01:51
mainercensored,read the docs,  www.fs-security.com   ,when in doubt,google01:51
mkdej-me, quick fix for RB is to install gstreamer0.8-mad01:52
j-memkde: cool01:52
FlyingSquirrel32j-me: perhaps you could install the codecs from ubuntuguide.org? Just a weak sugg. can't hurt.01:52
mkdeewwww01:52
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hybridok i edited my sources.list then sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade but when i restart it says 5.04 Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog01:52
limerthank god for absolute paths ;)01:52
mkdej-me, that page I posted is more reliable than ubuntuguide.org at the moment01:52
chazwurthHeh01:52
FlyingSquirrel32cool, I was right !01:53
j-memkde: incidentally, with oggs, RB reaches the end of the track and then complains Unexpected end of stream!01:53
mkdebizarre01:53
mkdej-me, maybe that is a bug with streaming media01:53
nickrudcens0red, the tab is policy01:53
FlyingSquirrel32j-me: It works nice once you got the right codecs installed01:53
j-meOK, I'll try and report back01:54
jubeiOk I compiled the new kernel and set it up in grub, but when I try to boot it i get "kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown - block (0,0)" what can I do?01:54
cens0rednickrud well I've "allowed" incoming connections from my psybnc's host. Still can't connect to while the firewall is on though.01:54
mkdejubei, do you have an initrd?01:55
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: rename 's/\.jpg/X\.jpg/' *.jpg01:55
jubeii'm following a guide that says dont use it01:55
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mkdejubei, is the guide an ubuntu guide?01:55
jubeihttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelByHandHowto01:55
jubeiyep01:55
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: in the appropriate directory will change dfsc3497.jpg to dfsc3497X.jpg01:55
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: perfect.01:56
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FlyingSquirrel32djm62: Is it too complicated to explain?01:56
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nickrudcens0red, then the firestarter site sounds like a good place to start :)01:56
mkdejubei, sure you got all the config right?01:56
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: then mv ./appropriatedirectory/* ./targetdirectory/01:56
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: yeah I got the rest.01:56
limerhmmm.  I had to sudo to mkdir in /bin01:57
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: sort of...it's a regular expression and books /have/ been written on them01:57
limernow java doesn't want to install01:57
cens0rednickrud even better idea - read an iptables tutorial and configure a firewall myself.01:57
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FlyingSquirrel32djm62: its not a perl expression?01:57
jubeimkde: I have no idea. I dont know what "Unless you include the right kernel drivers into a boot image with initrd, then be sure to compile directly into the kernel (statically, not modules) the drivers for:" means01:57
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jubeimkde: the howto kinda doesnt elaborate on that01:58
mkdejubei, compiling statically means that you need to press "y" instead of "m"01:58
nickruddeeper than I want to go; I'm going to be using shorewall now that I've started.01:58
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chazwurthlimer: 1) Don't install it in /bin and 2) If you're trying to install it as your user, you'll have to sudo to install it as well01:58
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: but "s" means switch/swap the first bit is the "search" expression (the . needs a \ before it because dots have another meaning in regexps)01:58
limerchazwurth: uggh, now you tell me :P01:58
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: and the second bit is the "replace" expression (again with the backslash)01:58
jubeimkde: after make oldconfig?01:59
limerI installed to /bin/java01:59
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: perl uses regexps, but they are much older than perl01:59
mkdejubei, hang on let me look at the guide01:59
nickrudthe config that comes with the docs should still set up a firewall with all establish outgoing accepted, and ident pings.01:59
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: and they've lasted this long because they are effective ;)01:59
nickrudor inbound on established outgoing )01:59
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chazwurthlimer: Eh, I'd suggest installing it where it wants to go, but it won't destroy anything02:00
mkdejubei, make oldconfig will just give you the same configuration as the ubuntu kernel. You need to run "make menuconfig" to specify your own configuration02:00
limerit doesn't suggest man, that's just it02:00
limerchazwurth: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/install-linux.html02:00
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: I see the idea. I'll read on the train home. Thanks for everything. I'll be leaving now.02:00
limerthis is what I thought it might do and ended up with the binaries in the depths of my home folder02:00
mkdej-me, i hope you get it working because you have done me a nice favour, showing me the existence of gnump3d02:01
chazwurthlimer: When you run the installer, it doesn't have a default location?02:01
djm62FlyingSquirrel32: http://sitescooper.org/tao_regexps.html (wget it ;))02:01
limerno -- this version installs to the cd02:01
jubeimkde, I used make oldconfig then make xconfig to update my processor but thats about it. In make xconfig do I adjust the link mode?02:01
chazwurthlimer: That's because you didn't install it as root02:01
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j-memkde:  gnump3d rocks02:01
chazwurthOh02:01
limereven as root, it doesn't ask -- sorry, doing "sudo"02:01
chazwurthHmm02:01
j-memkde: written by steve kemp - so you know it's good02:01
j-mesecurity wise02:02
chazwurthWell, so it goes02:02
mkdej-me, who is he?02:02
mkdejubei, what is gods name are you doing compiling the kernel then?02:02
limerwhat version of java did you have installed chazwurth ?02:02
j-medebian security audit team lead02:02
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: cool, just learned another thing. Thanks.02:02
mkdejubei, there is absolutely no point recompiling a kernel just to change the processor02:02
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limerI think things have changed in 5.0 a bit.  for ex djm62 said I could use "--version" which is now slightly different (-version)02:03
chazwurthlimer: 1.5.0_02; it's possible the installer did the same for me and I just put it where I did out of habit.02:03
j-memkde: thanks now listening to Becks new album :-)02:03
mkdej-me, ok so it is safe too then02:03
jubeimkde I added a patch for 500hz mouse polling02:03
djm62I i'nt say nutt'n02:03
mkdejubei, ok that's more like it ;)02:03
chazwurthEh, --version still doesn't work for me :)02:03
limeroh well, if I have to kill it later it's self-contained right :P02:03
mkdejubei, right yes make xconfig is the same as make menuconfig more or less02:03
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jubeimkde, How do I set it to statically link?02:03
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mkdejubei, do you mean compile drivers statically?02:04
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jubeimkde, yeah if thats how I get rid of the kernel panic I mentioned earlier02:04
serverno you need to fix grub/lilo02:05
jubeiHEH02:05
serverif im replying to the right message i saw earlier02:05
servervfs error on boot, right?02:05
djm62jubei: I suspect you've lost an initrd somewhere02:05
mkdejubei, i can't tell you for sure how to get rid of that, but if you are not using an initrd it may be that you need to build at least the filesystem drivers into the kernel, using YES rather tan MODULE02:05
serveryou dont even need initrd02:05
mkdedjm62, he has intentionally omitted initrd02:05
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djm620_002:06
jubeibut the guide says dont use an initrd02:06
danwolfI am having a hal problem, when I login to gnome, I get a "Failed to initialize HAL" erro, then I have to kill dbus-daemon-1 to get gnome to fully come up. Then I have about 20 20-hal.hotplug running and about the same 10-hal.dev02:06
danwolfsomeone please help02:06
serverdanwolf... uname -a02:06
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serverwhich kernel are you using?02:06
mkdesounds like 1102:06
jubeimkde, i'm never prompted it that respect =)02:06
pakkiriwhich is faster ? X.org or Xfree8602:06
pakkiriwhich uses more memory?02:06
danwolfserver: Linux foshizzle 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux02:06
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serverhrm..02:07
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djm62pakkiri: I think it depends more on other factors02:07
jubeiim using linux-source-2.6.1002:07
TrickyphillipsHello #Ubuntu. :)02:07
pakkiriI have 256MB RAM02:07
mkdejubei, i've never used make xconfig, but there will be a way to select and deselect drivers02:07
jubeiI followed this guide http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelByHandHowto02:07
pakkiriI switched to hoary a few days back02:07
danwolfwhen I try killing a bunch of the hotplugs, I get a kill process in zombie status02:08
pakkiriIt's been very slow02:08
mkdedanwolf, have you tried with a fresh user?02:08
danwolffresh user02:08
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pakkiriis Enlightenment faster than Gnome?02:08
danwolfI tried reinstalling ubuntu alltogether last night02:08
pakkiriI have a P-III 85002:08
djm62pakkiri: sluggish, or pathologically slow?02:08
mkdepakkiri, yes but not as feature rich02:08
pakkiridjm62: pathetically slow when I use Eclipse02:09
pakkirislow otherwise02:09
jubeimkde, its pretty much laid out the same as menuconfig02:09
danwolfmkde: tried reinstalling ubuntu alltogether last night02:09
pakkirimkde: feature rich as in what?02:09
mkdedanwolf, definitely file a bug, even if you can fix it02:09
danwolfI have02:09
danwolfwant the link?02:09
djm62eclipse didn't slow down your system before?02:09
mkdedanwolf, i won't be able to fix it, but better people will :)02:09
mkdepakkiri, gnome manages lots of desktop configuration for you, whereas enlightenment is much more streamlined02:10
mkdepakkiri, try both and see what you prefer02:10
mkdejubei, right, and how do you select and deselect drives?02:10
pakkirimkde: I don't have much space on my disk to try both02:10
mkdejubei, *drivers02:10
limerwhere is the PATH file located?02:10
mkdepakkiri, how much have you got?02:10
djm62can anyone else confirm that http://dean.edwards.name/IE7 *CRASHES* firefox?02:11
djm62(on your own head be it)02:11
mkdeyes02:11
mkdeconfirmed02:11
mkdeinteresting02:11
k4rlboom!02:11
limerdjm62: confirmed02:11
k4rlhalf renders, then byebye02:11
k4rlalso, why isn't firefox in a new process :(02:12
k4rlthat took down all my windows :(02:12
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djm62limer: it's not a file, it's a variable...it gets set from .bashrc or .profile and is then stored in memory02:12
jubeimkde, Device Drivers...Block devices...02:12
limerI need to edit it after a botched added path02:12
limerthx02:12
nickrudephiphany crashed too02:12
djm62limer: "env" command shows all other environmental variables02:12
danwolfserver: any ideas, please?02:12
mkdejubei, but what do you actually PRESS in order to change the configuration02:12
danwolfmkde: ca you try?02:12
djm62I apologise everyone :( I did put big letters02:13
mkdedanwolf, literally don't have a clue, how long has the bug been filed?02:13
jubeimkde, dunno. I'm quite happy to run menuconfig =)02:13
danwolfweek and a half or so02:13
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danwolfmkde: week and a half or so02:13
danwolflemm look02:13
k4rldo you know if there is a way to make firefox use a new process?02:13
servernope, sorry02:13
serveri was lookin for the obvious02:14
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danwolfmkde: I will paste you the bug link02:14
mkdejubei, ok when you run menuconfig, when you want to compile a driver statically, you press "y", A * (star) sign appears next to it. When you want to compile it as a module, you press "M".02:14
mkdedanwolf, can't hurt02:14
nickrudbut it restarted all the windows :)02:14
danwolfmkde: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986402:14
jubeimkde ok02:14
dg23i came here lookinf for help, i couldn't figure out how to change the color depth from 24 bit to 32 bit02:15
dg23in gnome 2.1002:15
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danwolfmkde: I found something somewhere that said that I could put a line in my grub kernel params to fix it02:15
djm62wow.../etc/bash_completion is a minor OS on its own02:15
danwolfmkde: but when I do that I get an error on start up about failed to find ide-mod module02:15
slappy17whats the line?02:16
danwolfmkde: so I don't think that that is even working02:16
mkdej-me, ah this is so good... i don't need a samba server now02:16
XTCboarderanybody know how to condig php on apache2? my scripts wont work....02:16
mkdedanwolf, :/02:16
danwolfmkde: any idea about that module?02:16
jubeimkde, I wouldnt minde making an initrd if that is a better way to go either. What is and initrd?02:16
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mkdedanwolf, none sorry02:17
limerdjm62: can't find it in ~/.bashrc02:17
slappy17jubei: whats going on?02:17
slappy17you cant boot, rightA?02:18
djm62limer: I just pasted you mine (hope you don't mind)02:18
k4rlwhat is the advantage in making an initrd image anyway?02:18
slappy17if you want to load modules before the machine boots02:18
mkdejubei, i'll pass you over to slappy17 if you don't mind, i need to sleep now02:18
limerthat's cool02:18
slappy17rgr02:18
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slappy17can you fill me in?  i missed the original question02:19
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mkdeslappy17, he has followed the guide on http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelByHandHowto but hasn't compiled anything into the kernel02:19
mkdeslappy17, and he hasn't got an initrd02:19
slappy17ahh..so he has no networking?02:19
mkdeslappy17, kernel panic on boot02:19
j-memkde: incidentally, still getting the end of stream error in RB02:19
slappy17lilo or grub02:20
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mkdegrub02:20
slappy17and where is he?02:20
j-mebut xmms works fine once I changed to esounds02:20
slappy17go sleep, man02:20
jubeiHEH02:20
mkdej-me, yes that is a hoary bug02:20
slappy17does he have his menu.1st around or grub.config?02:20
jubeiok thanks for your help mkde02:20
j-meahh, ok cool. I prefer xmms anyway.02:20
slappy17jubei...show me what you did for you new kernel in grub02:20
mkdej-me, i mean the esound one. RB might be an upstream bug maybe?02:20
slappy17tell me what steps you took real quick02:20
jubeislappy17, I followed this http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelByHandHowto02:21
slappy17ya, but what did you do02:21
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j-memkde: ah ok. well I might look into it a little further then02:21
jubeibut I didnt know what "Unless you include the right kernel drivers into a boot image with initrd, then be sure to compile directly into the kernel (statically, not modules) the drivers for:" meant02:21
mkdeok good luck jubei02:21
mkdenight02:21
slappy17dl kernel(which) make menuconfig, make modules ; make modules_install cp bzimage..edit grub.conf02:21
slappy17ok, heres the rule of thumb...you only need to build in stuff that is absolutly required for booting..ie, ide, cpu, scsi, etc.02:22
transgressokay... my dvd's are still a little jerky... is there any tweaking i can do to speed them up?  and would the nvidia xorg driver work better than the nv xorg driver for dvd's?02:22
slappy17modules for your devices, cdrom, network card,02:22
slappy17lsmod and lspci are your friends to determine what you need02:23
slappy17use that and go through /usr/src/linux/.config to see whats 'm' and 'y'02:23
slappy17so..given all of that..where are you?02:23
jubeiwell02:23
transgressdoes ubuntu do updates to generic kernels?02:24
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nickrudtransgress, big time02:24
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slappy17ah..im looking at that link you sent me02:24
transgresslike that will update to my computer automatically?  or after my install do i need to do my own kernels?02:24
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nickrudslappy, you do know your kernels :)02:24
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slappy17too many times...too much02:25
slappy17;)02:25
nickrudI quit :)02:25
slappy17lol02:25
slappy17goin to sleep?02:25
danwolfanyone else have any ideas for me?02:25
jubeii'm followinging this guide http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelByHandHowto and it doesnt say to do make modules02:25
danwolfI been trying for weeks02:26
slappy17make modules_install install02:26
jubeiyep02:26
nickrudnaw, still at my desk, looking at irc for a moment :)02:26
slappy17ohh..ya, you dont do that in 2.602:26
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transgressi'll probably do a custom when .12 comes out02:26
jubeiI think I either need to use an initrd or change some drivers to static02:26
slappy17it's out02:26
slappy17linux posted it up today02:27
slappy17linus02:27
slappy17w/ git..no more BitKeeper!! NOO!!02:27
slappy17http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=111404524303075&w=202:27
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jubeiSo now I just need to find out which ones to do static02:27
transgressit is?02:28
transgressi guess i'll have to get to that then02:28
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slappy17well..prepatch02:28
slappy172.6.11.7 is still stable02:28
transgressi find it annoying to do updates on kernels too often running 3 linux systems...02:29
transgressall 3 different chipsets02:29
transgressand hardware02:29
slappy17bah....ya, no kidding02:29
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jubeislappy17, how can i determine what drivers to make built-in?02:30
beggarI made this question here but I hadnt found a solution...so...i want to run a script (that initializes my internet connection) in the boot...and as ubuntu don't have rc.local, how can  i do this?02:30
slappy17you build them in if you need it to boot your pc02:30
bpucciohas anyone had issues when connecting to more then 2 IRC servers with GAIM?  I seem to get kicked off one when signing on to a third02:30
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transgressis it possible to get really good dvd playback on linux?02:31
jubeislappy17, i'm gonna need more detail, eg do I need monitor dirvers? ext3 drivers? ntfs drivers?02:31
slappy17you dont need a monitor to boot, if you use ext3, then you need it to boot02:31
slappy17stuff like that02:32
slappy17network cards are not needed to boot unless you pxe...so module02:32
slappy17get it?02:32
jubeislappy17, so I should just check the stuff I think then compile and if it doesnt work try again =) ?02:32
limerguess you don't have to specify --jar with java anymore :D02:33
slappy17lather, rinse, repeat02:33
jubeiHEH02:33
nickrudlol02:33
slappy17you probably wont get it the first few tries, but you will02:33
slappy17make sure your new kernel is in the right spot and grub see's it02:33
slappy17i thought you were having a grub issue earlier02:34
djm62no mo bitkeeper :-/02:34
scorpixi got this error when i do apt-get upgrade in hoary:02:34
scorpixdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--unpack):02:34
transgressbleh and the sound is offstep02:34
scorpix trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf02:34
scorpixErrors were encountered while processing:02:34
jubeislappy17, ok more questions now. Have the patches allready been applied to the kernel I downloaded?02:34
scorpix /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb02:34
transgressis there a good dvd ripper for linux?02:34
slappy17wait...you're patching?02:34
slappy17ok..i didnt see that part02:34
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djm62transgress: drip will work...but it's not wonderful02:35
slappy17patch --dry-run02:35
jubeislappy17, I downloaded the source applied the 500hz mouse polling patch (the whole reasone I'm doing this) and I want to know how to get the -32 on the end of my kernel version now.02:36
Ironfrosttransgress: bleh and the sound is offstep  <--  I had that problem with Xine, but VLC worked fine02:36
djm62nightski urbi et orbi02:36
slappy17ahhhh...ok..when you patched it, was it suppose to be a new option in the menu?02:36
slappy17did you run the patch?02:37
slappy17how did they package it?02:37
jubeiI ran the patch02:37
jubeiit was just a .diff file02:37
slappy17no errors?  in the instructions, what did it tell you to do after the install02:37
slappy17ahh..ok...so.  it didnt say anything about enabling it in the menu, right?02:37
jubeithere was one rejected part of the patch but I fixed it.02:38
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jubeino, dont need to enable it in the menu02:38
slappy17ok..so as long as the readme didnt say anything else, then you should be good to run make on the kernel02:38
slappy17so is the 500hz polling make it more sensitive?02:38
jubeiwell02:39
slappy17can anyone use it?02:39
transgressi can't get any sound with blc02:39
transgressvlc02:39
jubeii'm a hardcore quakeworlder =)02:39
transgressbut the video playback is a lot better02:39
jubeiyeah sure slappy02:39
transgressany tips?02:39
slappy17ahh02:39
jubeidifference between 125hz and 500hz means each frame it takes 6-7 samples instead of 1-202:39
jubeiso if you move the mouse fast its still accurate02:40
slappy17ohhh...nice02:40
slappy17do you have a link?02:40
jubeiyep...02:40
jubeiftp://gibbage.mine.nu/tools/500hz%20USB%20Mouse%20Patches/02:40
jpwhat?02:40
slappy17ty!02:40
jpresolution with 500 hz?02:40
jpwtf02:40
jubeislappy you can go up to 1000hz if your mobo/mouse supports it02:41
jpoh02:41
jpmouse 02:41
slappy17whoa..do you edit the diff?02:41
jubeii have mx300 which goes up to 1000hz but my mobo only does 500hz02:41
jubeiyou dont need to edit the diff but...02:41
jubeiwith the source i d/l usb_deregister(&hid_driver); and hiddev_exit(); are one each others lines =)02:42
jubeiso patch winges02:42
jubeioh02:42
jubeiif you want 1000hz you just edit the diff, yeah02:42
jubeior the source02:42
jubeichange static unsigned hid_mouse_poll_interval to 1 for 1000hz02:43
slappy17ahh...ok, im goin through it02:43
slappy17oh, thanks!02:43
jubeialso02:43
jubeigo here for info http://gibbage.mine.nu/forum/02:43
jubeiDo you play any games slappy?02:44
slappy17uhh..not as much lately, but i like bf 194202:44
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slappy17i dont game on linux though...02:44
robertjok, general linux question, I moved a disk from one computer to another and yaboot loaded but couldn't find the partition02:44
slappy17looks like you code, though02:44
slappy17so whats up w/ the kernel now?  are you going to try it?02:44
jubeiI still have questions =)02:45
slappy17okay, shoot02:45
jubeiubuntu has patches on the kernel02:45
jubeieg02:45
transgressis there a way to make VLC use esd?02:45
transgressor what do i need to stop to get VLC sound to work...02:45
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jubeii'm running 2.6.10-5-686 and I want to know how to get the -5 on the end of my kernel when I compile it.02:46
slappy17honestly, i always download my kernel from www.kernel.org and start from scratch02:46
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slappy17ohh....i just saw this02:46
jubeidoes the -5 mean patches have been applyied to the kernel?02:46
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smojubei: I believe it indicates that it's the fifth build that ubuntu have packaged02:47
slappy17ya..02:47
jubeiok02:47
slappy17its nothing but for them02:47
slappy17you can change it in def config02:47
slappy17defconfig02:47
jubeiso what can I do with /usr/src/linux-patches/i386/2.6.10/ ?02:48
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jubeiI tried running /usr/src/linux-patches/i386/2.6.10/debian/patch-2.6.10-34 on the source I d/l but it seemed they had allready been applied, would this be the case?02:49
crimsunjubei: yes, it (/they for broken-out) has been applied already to linux-source-2.6.1002:50
crimsunjubei: the -5- is an epoch signifying an ABI bump02:50
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jubeialso, I selected pentium 4 in make xconfig does this mean I made a 686 kernel because it doesnt say that in the name, it just says "vmlinuz-2.6.10" ?02:53
crimsunyes.02:53
crimsunthe filename vmlinuz is a generic one02:53
jubeicool, thanks02:54
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Quest-MasterAny Urdu or Hindi speaking Ubuntu users here?02:54
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jphi guys, i'm compiling something and I got that: /usr/share/aclocal/pkg.m4:5: warning: underquoted definition of PKG_CHECK_MODULES //  run info '(automake)Extending aclocal'02:56
jpwhat this can be? thanks :/02:56
fsapohi there fellows :) somebody could help me with some dependencies stuff?02:56
fsapoi m trying to install some packages but it goes to some "unstallable" dapendecies02:56
fsapois there a way to force it?02:57
crimsunjp: it's a warning and doesn't affect anything. It means that the macro needs to be enclosed with brackets [] .02:57
fsapolike02:57
fsapoDepends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed02:57
fsapothis is stressing me :(02:57
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jpcrimsun mm my problem is configure was stopped by that... :/02:57
crimsunfsapo: why do you have sid lines on your hoary system?02:57
transgressbleh so vlc plays the dvd really well, but i can't get sound for anything02:58
crimsunjp: no, either something below or above it02:58
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mrhodeshey guys, i just messed up trying to update my 386 kernel to 686 and deleted the 386 modules.. now 686 kernel hasn't been lilo'd properly, and i can't get back into gnome as my 386 modules are gone.. what's the package called?02:58
fsapocrimsun, sid lines?02:58
transgressis there a dvd player that will use esd?02:58
transgressand work well02:58
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crimsunfsapo: -21 is only in sid.02:58
mrhodeslinux-image-386-02:58
phillipchey how can I run the synaptic GUI from the CLI? it needs root privelidges but doesn't ask me for a pw02:58
fsapocrimsun, i dont really know.. but how should i solve it?02:59
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fsapocrimsun, i m trying to install trasncode02:59
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crimsuntransgress: install vlc-esd02:59
fsapocrimsun, but some stupid dependencies isnt working at all =/02:59
mrhodesplease someone help me reinstall the 386 kernel modules02:59
crimsunfsapo: are you following a guide or a howto or something?02:59
mrhodesspecifically nvidia drivers02:59
transgresscrimsun: thanks a lot03:00
fsapocrimsun, no.. i m installing by myself03:00
crimsunphillipc: use aptitude instead or apt-get or dselect03:00
fsapocrimsun, i want to ruin the dvd::rip03:00
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fsapocrimsun, but it depends on trasncode.. that dependes on some "unstallable" stuff03:00
crimsunmrhodes: linux-image-2.6.10-5-38603:00
amonkeyis there a real encoder that i can get from synaptic? and if not, any other place?03:00
phillipccrimsun: I just want to execute the gui from a shortcut or the CLI03:01
hypnomrhodes apt-cache search 386 modules03:01
crimsunamonkey: www.real.com or www.helixcommunity.org03:01
mrhodeshypno thanks03:01
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transgresshey crimsun is there something i need to edit to get this vlc-esd to work or is it automagic?03:01
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crimsuntransgress: you may have to configure vlc to use esd, if so, it'll be in the preferences03:01
fsapocrimsun, i just bought a dvd recorder and i dont want to install windows just to backup some movies :(03:01
transgressk03:02
pixil9you mean pirate movies03:02
pixil9:P03:02
fsapopixil9, if you think that way :)03:02
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fsapopixil9, i just want to rent and backup it up for watching later hehe ;)03:03
pixil9i got about 200 burned dvds now03:03
crimsunfsapo: dvd+rw-tools03:03
pixil9and 100 svcds03:03
Patrick`I have a fresh install of Hoary here, and when I log in via ssh or the console, my .bashrc and/or .bash_profile aren't processed03:03
pixil9I figure it's only 6 grand of stolen stuff03:03
Patrick`they are if I then call "bash" again03:03
fsapopixil9, i have a colletion of xvid stuff and dont really like vcd :P03:04
fsapopixil9, mainly animes :)03:04
SQL_Samdoes ubuntu come with acrobat reader?03:04
pixil9i like svcds cuz they play on my dvd player03:04
pixil9but ihad to pick 1 out of like 30 at visions.. only one that played them03:04
crimsunSQL_Sam: no. Use debian-marillat for that, or use xpdf03:05
fsapopixil9, hehe i dont have a dvd player.. i just use the pc instead ;)03:05
pixil9haha03:05
Ironfrostpixl9 - in China, pretty much any DVD player you buy these days will also play MP4 / DivX03:05
pixil9hope u got a big monitor03:05
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IronfrostUSA is so far behind03:05
socommHow to install gcc-4.0?03:06
pixil9USA is a shithole03:06
StrogMy year old DVD plays them fine03:06
fsapocrimsun, dvd+rw-tools is installed here... btw how do i use it to backup dvds?03:06
crimsunfsapo: I've not used it; I don't have dvd hardware. Read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/dvd+rw-tools/03:07
transgressgrar cannot find any way to tell vlc to use esd03:07
Patrick`k3b!03:07
fsapocrimsun, thanx03:07
Patrick`now with funny sound effects03:07
socommfsapo: You mean rip DVD?03:07
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pixil9is it just me.. or are gaim sounds just _disgusting_03:08
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fsaposocomm, yes03:08
fsaposocomm, :)03:08
socommfsapo: You can try mplayer and mencoder.03:08
calimHello guys, hey could someone tell me how to get fglrx running?03:08
judax#kubuntu channel is messed up tonight03:08
calimlike enabling direct rendering..03:08
crimsuncalim: wiki/BinaryDriverHowto03:08
Strogsocomm: hey socomm03:08
socommStrog: Hello.03:08
calimcrimsun: where is it?03:08
SQL_Samnext dumb question can ubuntu use rpm packages?03:08
crimsuncalim: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:09
socommSQL_Sam: Yes.03:09
calimthx03:09
crimsunSQL_Sam: alien03:09
fsaposocomm, i ve tried to install mplayer here... but it depends on those stupid "unstallable" stuff =/03:09
socommSQL_Sam: `man alien'03:09
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pixil9apt-get install mplayer-custom03:09
torpidhow can i make alsamixer's settings stay the same for the user level?03:09
torpidor can i only do it at the system level with alsactl?03:10
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crimsuntorpid: system-level. See /var/lib/alsa/asound.state.03:10
phillipchow can I run the synaptic GUI from the CLI, or from a shortcut? it needs root privelidges but doesn't ask me for a pw03:10
lsuactiafnertorpid : alsactl store03:10
judaxfsapo: go to ubuntuguide.org it will tell you how to install mplayer03:10
lacycan't amarok play live stream from shoutcast?03:10
fsaposocomm, what about kino? it installed here withou problems03:10
crimsunphillipc: use aptitude.03:10
phillipccrimsun: I just want to execute the gui from a shortcut or the CLI03:10
crimsunphillipc: gksudo synaptic03:11
socommfsapo: I've never used kino, but I know mplayer supports stream dumping.03:11
phillipccrimsun: thanks03:11
lsuactiafnersocomm : mencoder dvd://1 -o Output.avi -oac mp3lame -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:mbd=103:11
socommfsapo: What lsuactiafner  said.03:12
lsuactiafnermencoder is installed with mplayer03:12
socommlsuactiafner: Yes, thanks for the pointer by t he way.03:12
torpidlsuactiafner how does that help at the user level?03:12
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lsuactiafnernp03:12
torpidlsuactiafner asound.state dosen't have write permisisons except for root.03:12
fsapolsuactiafner, ok.. but i m having some problems installing it.. i m gonna try making what says in the guide03:12
torpidi want every user to be able to save its own settings separately.03:13
lsuactiafnertorpid : not all users are idiots, if you make an OS idiots can use only idiots will use it.. so the person has to su ect.. no big deal03:13
lsuactiafneroh user as in user... sorry03:13
lsuactiafnerin a crappy moood03:13
lsuactiafnerno idea...03:13
SQL_Samlol - how do i get out of a man page?03:14
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torpidlsuactiafner ??03:14
crimsuntorpid: like I said, you can't yet.03:14
lsuactiafnerpress q03:14
pixil9torpid: I'm an idiot because I use ubuntu??03:14
torpidahh03:14
SQL_Samthanks03:14
torpidhuh?  i never said anything about that.  you mean lsuactiafner ?03:14
socommcrimsun: Can't the GNOME mixer handle this?03:14
lsuactiafnerrofl03:14
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fsapolsuactiafner, is there some grafical interface for mplayer to rip dvds?03:14
torpidcrimsun i can live with that.  but i could swear a saved it before and it came back.03:14
crimsunsocomm: gstreamer's? It's still system-wide, even the software volume control.03:15
jodahey - quick question. when I pres alt+f2, I get a "run application" dialog box. I would like to add a directory to the path that is used in this dialog box. were do I do this?03:15
lsuactiafnerfsapo : look on freshmeat.net for gui stuff03:15
socommHmmm, all right.03:15
torpidI don't know why you'd ever have alsamixer's volume less than 100%03:15
SQL_Samtalking movie players what does linux have?03:15
lsuactiafnerbut the command line is easy..03:15
torpidor change the eq for that matter.  that should all be handled by your receiver.03:15
lsuactiafnertrust me.. a gui is for when you have broken fingers..03:15
crimsuntorpid: some ac97s are very poor and distort at levels > 77%03:15
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fsapolsuactiafner, ok thanx.. now the mplayer is installing03:15
socommSQL_Sam: MPlayer, gstreamer, xine, RealPlayer.03:15
lsuactiafnerfsapo : man mencoder or man mplayer to see more shit...03:16
fsapolsuactiafner, but is mplayer going to allow to copy a full dvd?03:16
lsuactiafnerfsapo : apt-get install lame03:16
jodaSQL_sam: and vlc03:16
fsapolsuactiafner, lame is already installed03:16
socommOh yes, forgot VLC.03:16
SQL_Samwhat plays wmv files?03:16
fsapolsuactiafner, i ve installed kino.. do you know it? it seens to have some cool stuff03:16
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lsuactiafnershit i totally fscked my pc up.. opengl is gone poof...03:17
socommSQL_Sam: None, out of the box, you'll need to install the win32 codecs.03:17
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lsuactiafnermplayer is voted best media player for linux so i havent bothered with anything else03:17
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socommMPlayer is by far my favourite media player, since it will allow you to play back anything just about anywhere.03:18
torpidin the book 1984, did Obrien really ever intend to rebel against the party, or was it all entrapment?03:18
jodanoone has any advice on my question?03:18
socommtorpid: He just wanted some ass.03:18
SQL_Samcool i'll look it up -03:18
IronfrostO'Brian was the Inner Party guy that recruited them?03:19
adextais KDE very well supported by the ubuntu project?03:19
IronfrostI thought he was just a setup by the Party03:19
pixil9kubuntu.03:19
Ironfrostadexta - yes, but not officially03:19
socommadexta: /join #kubuntu03:19
SQL_Sami just saw 1984 like a week ago03:19
adextatorpid: i think he had a genuine hatred for the system03:19
jubeiI'm using kubuntu, its great03:19
judaxnot tonight03:19
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SQL_Samhe wanted ass.....03:19
Ironfrostthere's a project called Kubuntu that will convert your Ubuntu to KDE03:19
transgress still cannot get sound on vlc03:19
transgressgrar03:19
Ironfrostjust use Aptitude to install the package kubuntu-desktop03:20
crimsunjoda: usually you wouldn't need to. You can choose a file to pass to it, and you can select the full path using ctrl+l03:20
transgressis artsd like esd except by kde?03:20
adextaIronfrost: is it *well* supported?03:20
transgressadexta: yes it is _well_ supported03:20
IronfrostI've not used it myself, but I haven't heard any complaints03:20
socommadexta: kubuntu is not an official project it's a community project.03:20
Ironfrostand a fair few people seem to be using it03:20
adextaif it's a mediocre implementation, i am just going to stick with debian03:20
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SQL_Sami have a question about KDE - i just did the change to kubuntu but i still get the gnome foot print in the top left corner - why?03:21
socommSQL_Sam: Are you using KDE?03:21
SQL_Samyep03:21
socommSQL_Sam: Sounds like you're using GNOME or at least the gnome-panel.03:21
SQL_Samhow do i check what i'm using?03:22
transgressdoes kubuntu have the ubuntu desktop packages?03:22
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jodacrimsum: I don't think I understand your answer: I've unpacked the eclipse sdk in my home dir, and it runs fine after I added the dir to the path in my .bashrc. just not in the "run application" window03:22
crimsuntransgress: it certainly has access to ubuntu-desktop03:22
SQL_Samwell i got a bunch of things starting with k now in my drop downs03:22
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crimsunjoda: have you logged out and back in?03:23
jodayep03:23
judaxSQL_Sam: there is a good post in the Kubuntu web forums that explains how to fix the menus03:23
socommjoda: Try adding it to your ~/.profile03:23
jodacrimum: I've also tried adding it to the path in my /etc/profile03:23
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transgresswhat's a good cd burner program for gnome?03:24
judaxSQL_Sam: I would link it, but cant right now03:24
lsuactiafnerok anyone else finding it impossible to get nvidia-glx with apt-get?03:24
adextalsuactiafner: i'll try it03:25
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pixil9lsuactiafner, whats the problem03:25
lsuactiafnermy glx is gone to a bad place where broken software goes..03:25
pixil9I have it installed now03:25
lsuactiafnerwell i screwed about an broke X and glx03:25
lsuactiafnerand now i think i need to reinstall nvidia-glx but apt-get doesnt think it exists03:25
pixil9Though ubuntu lost my java package i gotta figure that out03:25
lsuactiafnerlol03:26
lsuactiafner(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load GLX03:27
pixil9I thought you just have to load glx in X03:27
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danwolfHEY Everyone I fixed my HAL problem03:28
danwolfbut... I still have a problem with gnome occasionally locking up on me03:28
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danwolfeverything locks, I have to ssh in and restart gdm to get back in03:29
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flameshi, i have a notebook and fn+f9, fn+f10 (brightness control) don't work, how can i decrease the lcd brightness under ubuntu?03:29
danwolfanyone had that kind of problem?03:29
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adextadanwolf: i've had it before03:30
jodacrimsum - I found a workaround - thanks for your help, though :)03:30
adextaof course, i run a pentium II 400 MHz03:30
adextaand it would only happen when i really overloaded the cpu03:30
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flamesi think ubuntu rocks, but i going to blind :-(03:32
danwolfadexta: what did you do?03:32
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danwolfadexta: thats not my problem for sure03:32
danwolfheh03:32
adextadanwolf: i became more patient03:33
adextadanwolf: perhaps you could try changing your keyboard?03:33
adextainstead of the default, see what you have03:33
fsapoanyone here uses k3b to rip dvds?03:33
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adextaif it registes your keyboard as a different type, not all the keys will work03:33
Dull404Hey all,03:34
adextaas in, "duh".03:34
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Dull404How can I change the gdm screen resolution? (to be same as in gnome)03:34
danwolfadexta: keyboard?03:34
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danwolfadexta: how would that fix it?03:34
crimsunDull404: change the xorg conffile03:35
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Sinistradso, following the steps in the SetupNdiswrapperHowto, I was able to successfully compile and load the ndiswrapper module (kernel release 2.6.10-5-386) ... but the wlan0 interface still doesn't show up with "iwconfig" ... (card is broadcom BCM4306 chipset -- ndiswrapper -m shows the driver/hardware present).  Any suggestions?03:35
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Dull404crimsun, ok its in there :)03:36
delltonyhi, gotta question. Hear lately i have noticed my system seems to be laggin. as in programs take their sweet time to load sometimes. before things use to popup rather fast. is there anything i should check or a command i could issue. if i understand correctly there is no need to defrag a linux partiton so i'm lookin for ideas03:36
crimsunDull404: then restart gdm03:36
delltonySinistrad, did you modprobe ndiswrapper?03:37
Dull404crimsun, yup thanks03:37
evilmegamanhello, can anyone help me with a cedega problem? The game I installed can't find the cd when it's in the cd rom drive so any help is appreciated03:37
Sinistraddelltony, of course.  loaded successfully according to both lsmod, /var/log/messages03:37
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delltonywhat does ifconfig say?03:38
Dull404This is also strange... its impossible to change the settings for "file-roller" i want it to open .rar files (rar is installed) ...03:38
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Sinistradifconfig lists eth0 and lo as interfaces.  iwconfig lists lo, eth0, sit0 with no wireless extensions03:38
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delltonysee what sudo iwlist scan will produce for you just curious if it detects anythign is all03:40
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Sinistradlists those three interfaces, lo, eth0, sit0, with a note by each saying "interface doesn't support scanning"03:41
delltonyok03:41
delltonyopen up sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces03:41
delltonydo you have a listing in there for wlan0?03:41
Sinistradno03:41
delltonyadd it03:41
cherylhi03:42
delltonyapend to the bottom of hte list03:42
cherylI've installed Hoary 5.04 but need to print to windows printer03:42
Sinistrad"iface wlan0 inet dhcp" ?03:42
delltonyyep03:42
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cherylPrinter driver is installed and says printer is ready03:42
delltonythen auto wlan003:42
Dull404crimsun, do you have an idea on this? to get rar working with fileroller03:42
cherylbut when I print nothing happens . doc just sits in queue03:43
Sinistrad"ifup wlan0" reports SIOCSIFADDR: No such device03:43
delltonyhmm i wonder03:43
delltonycause i seen this before03:43
jodaanother quick question: where is the linux kernel source code located on ubuntu?03:43
delltonyon my dell there is a function f2 key to turn on the radio transmitter03:44
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delltonynot sure abut your laptop or whatever but look and see if the physical switch is on for the wireless03:44
abarbacciaSinistrad - is your device detected and installed?03:44
Sinistraddelltony, there's no function of that sort on this particular laptop.03:45
cherylhelp03:45
delltonyok just eliminating the posibilities03:45
delltonytry this03:45
delltonygo back to  your /etc/network/interfaces03:45
abarbacciaSinistrad, i think your answer is lying in the fact that your card probably isn't detected03:45
Sinistradabarbaccia, the driver is loaded and the driver utility (ndiswrapper) reports the hardware as present....if that's what you mean.  Are you referring to some more specific clue than that?03:45
abarbacciawell, yes03:45
abarbacciajust because the hardware is present doesn't mean the driver is loading correctly03:46
delltonywell since abarbaccia  is gonna help ill set back03:46
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abarbacciaanswer this for me, you have ndiswrapper pointing to a sys file, do you have the rest of the driver files in the same directory?03:46
jodaplease, can anyone help me with my question?03:47
mob_hi all, has anyone make to work the "Add shader folder" in hoary?03:47
SinistradI don't know if I can answer that ... I'll make sure I give you correct information -- give me a minute or two and I'll get back to you.03:48
abarbacciawell, do this03:48
mob_shared*, my mistake ;)03:48
Dull404Anyone know how to add .rar support to fileroller ?03:48
abarbacciadownload the driver from the manufactures website and extract the whole thing to a folder called like win_wlan03:48
Sinistradabarbaccia, sure :)03:48
jodadull404: I saw something about installing rar on ubuntuguide.org - haven't tried it myself, though03:48
Dull404joda, apt-get install rar, that i have done... but not working03:49
cherylthank you so much for your help03:49
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jodaDull404: I'm sorry, then I don't know anything that can help you03:49
Dull404joda, command line works, but i prefer using fileroller... its just more convenient ;)03:51
jodadull404: that is true :)03:51
Dull404joda, the strange is, that with my last distro i just installed rar, and it worked :/03:51
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transgressdamn it... vlc will not recognize vlc-esd...03:52
transgressit's like i didn't even install it03:53
stazichhey guys03:54
transgressand vlc seems to be the only thing that plays dvd's worth a damn03:54
xfSxhey i somehow deleted the system tray panel (where music player tray icon goes etc.), wondering how to get it back?03:54
stazichi am currently using warty, how can i add hoary repositories to my synaptic?03:54
Ironfrostmaybe run vlc with sudo to let it recognise a new piece?03:54
Dull404transgress, why not mplayer ?03:54
transgressDull404: it locks up whenever i try to play a dvd with it03:54
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Dull404transgress, change some settings then, as mplayer "is" the player ;)03:55
transgresswhat video codec family should mplayer be on to play dvd's?03:56
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Dull404transgress, how do you mean?03:58
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transgresswell there is a section in gmplayer's prefs that say "video codec" or something and has a bunch of choices...03:59
abarbacciaSinistrad, the most common problem with ndiswrapper is that people dont extract the whole driver - hope it works out because i gotta run03:59
stazichi am having a difficulty finding libdbh1.0-dev package in Synaptic... do you think i might have to somehow update it for it to find it? i need this file to install xfce...04:00
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Dull404transgress, i use X1104:00
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fsapoanyone knows how to make the subtitles bigger in totem? the subtitles are in the bottom of the screen and very very small :(04:00
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knucksi cnat eject my cd04:01
knucksHELP04:01
Dull404knucks,  unmount04:02
fsapoknucks, umount /cdrom04:02
knucksi did..04:02
stazichi am having a difficulty finding libdbh1.0-dev package in Synaptic... do you think i might have to somehow update it for it to find it? i need this file to install xfce...04:02
mindmedicfsapo, do you have seperate subtitle files?04:02
Dull404knucks eject04:02
fsapomindmedic, yes i do04:02
transgressDull404: my bad wrong section... it's under Codecs and demuxer... Video codec family:04:02
fsapomindmedic, the subtitles are ok, but the size is so fuking small =[04:02
transgresswhat do you use there?04:02
odysseystazich, do you have the universe enabled?04:02
knucksknucks@linux:~$ eject cdrom104:02
knuckseject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument04:02
transgressand how do i add the ndiswrapper module to load at boot?04:03
scorpixknucks: try sudo eject04:03
Dull404transgress, the default... let me put in a dvd to see if it works04:03
stazichi believe so04:03
transgressDull404: what is the default?04:03
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odysseystazich, i dont think you do04:03
stazichthey are marked grey- both deb and source04:03
knucksahh that did it04:03
knucksthanks04:03
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cpresshey all04:04
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Dull404transgress, is on "None"04:04
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transgressDull404: that's what i was thinking...04:04
transgressshit still locks up04:04
mindmedicsry, can't help you with totem... in mplayer there is an option for that... i'm sure theres one for xine too...04:04
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stazichok, i think i just didnt press "reload" known pakages04:05
stazichdoing it now04:05
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cpressHow do I update the Ubuntu to the newest packages?04:05
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bob2you don't, generally04:06
cpress?..04:06
bob2since the point of stable releases is to not use the latest crack04:06
bob2if you insist, try breezy04:06
mindmediccpress, if updates are available you will see an icon in your system tray...04:06
bob2but be aware that it might be broken04:06
cpressoh ok04:06
fsaponobody knows how to change the subtitles size in totem???04:06
cpressI am just installing now.04:06
Dull404transgress, oops, it crashed... i just installed ubuntu yesterday so havent tried this version of mplayer + dvd yet...04:06
transgressheh04:06
transgressk04:06
transgressso it's not just me04:07
Dull404transgress, i mean ubuntu+mplayer ....04:07
xfSxstazz, i find it in my synaptic04:07
xfSxhmm04:07
xfSxhey i somehow deleted the system tray panel (where music player tray icon goes etc.), wondering how to get it back?04:07
cpressDoes it cost anyhting to get 10 CDs shiped to my house?04:08
XTCboarderubuntu cd's?04:08
hypnoxfSx add 'notification area' to the panel04:08
cpressyes04:08
XTCboarderi think not04:08
bob2cpress: no04:08
housetierthey are free04:08
cpresssweet04:08
housetierlike totally04:08
XTCboarderi asked for 10 for pc 2 for 64 and 2 for ppc04:08
cpressI hope this is easy to use.. I have a couple of frineds that wanna learn linux.04:08
cpressI put them on slackware, lol, not easy.04:09
hypnolol04:09
stazichthey shipped me 10 altogether fine... it was warty a month ago04:09
xfSxthanks hypno04:09
cpressIs this pretty easey?04:09
cpresseasy*04:10
XTCboarderdamn... ifucked my mysql database.... i ran a script that put a pass on the admin and then my machine freezed so i didn't have time to write the thing... :(04:10
XTCboarderhow can i clean that up? (i had no data in the db so i can make it just blank again.... the thing is i don't know how)04:10
nomasteryodacpress: it is04:10
housetiercpress I recommend reading about installation procedure beforehand, then it WILL be easy to install04:10
nomasteryodayes04:10
XTCboarderubuntu is the easiest linux i've seen04:11
xfSxhow dangerous is it downloading non authenticated package updates?04:11
XTCboarderlinux for your average grandma04:11
XTCboarderxD04:11
cpressswwweeeeeeeeeeet04:11
nomasteryodaXTCboarder: Ubuntu is pretty darned easy thats for sure04:11
neighborleeis there a current gnome bug that stops newly installed synaptic apps from showing their icon in the menu ?04:11
axgnome is a bitch though04:11
xfSxxtc, what fps you gettin on your glxgears now?04:11
nomasteryodaneighborlee: you need the menu update script04:12
XTCboarderhmmm04:12
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XTCboarderlemme see04:12
cpressCan I install Fluxbox on this beast?04:12
nomasteryodafound also on apt04:12
nomasteryodacpress: yes04:12
karljpanyone know of any reason I'd need i2c for anything other than video capture cards?04:12
cpressKiller!!!04:12
cpressI love fluxbox!04:12
XTCboarder170 xD04:12
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XTCboarderbut i can see the mac screensaver smooooothly04:12
xfSxhehe nice 104:12
hypnokarljp hardware sensors04:13
XTCboarderi bought the video card cause of that and cause it would free 32 mb on RAM04:13
Dull404transgress,  do you have libdvdcss?04:13
nomasteryodaXTCboarder: is that the cool solar winds screensaver you mean?04:13
transgressis there a way to make it so clicking on the laptop touchpad won't be like left clicking04:13
XTCboarderhow can I clean up my mess? :(04:13
transgressDull404: god yes04:13
xfSxhow dangerous is it downloading non authenticated package updates?04:13
karljphypno, like mobo temp stuff?04:13
XTCboarderthe "flux" screensaver04:13
Dull404transgress, ok04:13
transgressDull404: i can get vlc playing dvd's... but i can't get it to use esd so i get no sound04:13
hypnokarljp yep04:13
yoinkcan anyone give me pointers on how to rip dvd's in ubuntu?04:14
nomasteryodatransgress: you need the gsynaptics pkg04:14
nomasteryodaor ksynaptics04:14
nomasteryodafor touchpads04:14
fsapoyoink, i m looking for the same thing =/04:14
hypnoxfSx depends on how much you trust who you're getting the packages from04:14
karljpso I'd need the hardware bus support section modules for my mobo, and also the hardware sensors part, but that's it right?04:14
nomasteryodahypno, true04:14
yoinkive heard transcode, mencoder and dvddecryptor + wine04:15
XTCboarderanybody how can i clean my mysqltables?04:15
XTCboarderall of the mysql database.. cause i f*****d root's pass04:15
hypnokarljp yeah more or less.. but if you're compiling the kernel expect some fiddling04:15
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XTCboarderam i gonna have to just reinstall?04:15
fsapoyoink, just found a program called acidrip .. i m giving it a try04:15
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karljphypno: any good way of detecting my motherboard chipset?04:16
hypnoXTCboarder reinstall mysql-server, maybe04:16
transgressnomasteryoda: thanks04:16
hypnokarljp install the lm-sensors package then run sensors-detect04:16
hypnooh04:16
hypnochipset i dunno04:16
karljpthat's ok.04:16
karljpI might just leave all the i2c in then.04:16
yoinkk, i think ive used that before...dont remember the outcome...04:17
yoinkwhat is underneath that?04:17
transgressnomasteryoda: i don't see a gsynaptics... just ksynaptics for kde04:17
XTCboarderdamn.....04:18
XTCboarder:(04:18
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anon12ubuntu killed my hd04:19
odysseytransgress, how bout qsynaptics it uses qt libraries04:19
anon12had to reinstall my windows04:19
b2sbah04:20
b2sscrew getting gsynaptic04:20
b2sall you need to do is edit xorg.conf04:20
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transgressb2s: woohoo heh04:20
stazichi am making the necessary upgrades as recommended by synaptic right now... guess what, instead of dloading one upgrade for the Linux-image-powerpc, it downloads three higher versions than mine... why not just dload the later one?? are they different?04:20
transgressokay what do i need to put?04:20
cpressis this suppose to take a while?\04:20
transgressor i could use syndaemon it seems04:20
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b2sin the synaptec touchpad section, just add this line (or replace it if it exists)04:21
b2s        Option          "MaxTapTime"            "0"04:21
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yoinkfsapo, let me know if you can preview in acidrip...i can't04:21
yoinkcan anyone tell me why my mplayer might freeze everytime i use it?04:22
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cpressbecause mplayer has a big in it..04:22
XTCboarderdid you know that if you have linux on hda1 windows will kill it if you install windows? (XP)04:22
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XTCboarderit did to me04:23
cpressthat kinda sucks..04:23
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XTCboarderand it will trick you on doing that04:23
yoinka big?04:23
transgresshey b2s: what is the horizscrolldelta option in the same section?04:23
cpressbug*04:23
cpressI don't know.. lol04:23
jubei1024So I compiled and booted my new kernel nicely this time, but x wont start "failed to load the nvidia kernel module" do I have to re-install some packages?04:23
transgressjubei1024: the nvidia kernel module04:24
yoinkany workaround cpress?04:24
amonkeyhow do i make a link from /dev/lcd to my serial port?04:24
b2stransgress: I have it at 0, but whatever works for you.04:24
cpresslol04:24
amonkeyto rather04:24
cpressi was just messing with you, sorry04:24
transgressb2s: i was just wondering if you knew what it did04:24
b2stransgress: you probably also want         Option          "SHMConfig"             "on"04:24
transgresssame section?04:24
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jubei1024transgress, ok cool, and what packages do i need for that? I tried removing and installing nvidia-glx again but that didnt help.04:25
b2stransgress: I think that scroll thing adjusts where the scroll bar/04:25
transgresswhere the scroll bar?04:26
transgressjubei1024: let me take a look04:26
b2stransgress: your touchpad doesn't have a scroll bar on the right side?04:27
transgressyeah it does... i was just kinda confused by the sentence... i thought that might be what you meant04:27
transgressb2s: so if i enable that i can use it?04:27
b2seh... mine already works, and is set for 0.  that is just the left-right offset of where it starts04:28
transgressjubei1024: apt-get install nvidia-glx and then run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable and probably need nvidia-kernel-common if it doesn't do that already04:28
cpressWhat is the root passwd?04:28
bluefoxicy<FixedFlareon> I think it averages about 30 seconds to take a 10 second data point with a 5 second settling time.  I'm told once upon a time, you told the equipment to move and then started transfering your data and by the time you were finished you could start measuring again04:28
bluefoxicy<Icy> <GeekSquad> It's probably spyware, and there's probably a lot.  We recommend reinstalling Windows because there's too much spyware to remove.04:28
b2stransgress: anyway, once you've set that shm thing to on, you can use "synclient -l" to adjust settings on the fly and see what helps04:29
tritiumjubei1024, you'll have to build your own nvidia module now, since you're not able to use the one in linux-resricted-modules04:29
tritium(since you built your own kernel)04:29
transgressb2s: cool thanks04:29
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yoinkwhat mplayer command do i do to start a dvd?04:29
yoinki tried mplayer dvd://04:29
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hyphenatedyoink: dvd://104:30
hyphenatedor some other title number04:30
jubei1024tritium: with mandrake I just d/l the drivers from nvidia.com and the installer built a module automatically. Can I do that in ubunut?04:30
tritiumjubei1024, that's not the best approach, no04:30
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b2stransgress: actually, looking at synclient, I see there is a setting for disabling the scroll.  it is "UpDownScrolling".  but may as well restart with SHMConfig on first.04:30
hyphenatedyoink: or use gmplayer or xine04:30
yoinkk, xine works fine, but not mplayer04:31
jubei1024tritium, ok so are there any guides then? Or can you help? =)04:31
transgressk04:31
yoinkunfortunately, acidrip uses mplayer for preview04:31
yoinkanyone know a ripping prog that uses xine?04:31
tritiumjubei1024, there are guides, but they're for the general case (most users don't need custom kernels)04:31
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jubei1024tritium, ok, what are the downfalls of using the nvidia installer?04:32
tritiumjubei1024, this is the main guide: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto04:32
tritiumjubei1024, it won't be a .deb package, and hence not under package management04:32
transgressadding SHMConfig to my xorg.conf should look like this right:  Option "SHMConfig" "on" ?04:32
jubei1024tritium, not a huge prob then is it?04:33
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tritiumjubei1024, well, if you run into trouble with it, it'll be unsupported, since it's not in ubuntu main or restricted04:33
b2stransgress: yes, that's right. it goes in the same inputdevice section as maxtaptime and horizscrolldelta04:33
jubei1024tritium, that guide doesnt say anything about compiling the modules yourself does it?04:33
tritiumjubei1024, precisely, because few people need to04:34
cpresscan someone msg me the default root passwd?04:34
jubei1024ok thanks tritium04:34
tritiumjubei1024, not even many ubuntu developers have the need to compile their own kernel.  Why did you need to?04:34
odysseycpress, there is not root account04:34
cpress?04:35
cpressnvm I think i got it..04:35
tritiumcpress, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:35
transgressb2s:  it's telling me it's still off04:35
odysseycpress, did you read what the installer said?04:35
b2stransgress: you restarted X?04:35
transgressyes04:35
robert82ais there any utillity that lets me see all the wireless networks my wireless card can connect to, and I mean a real one, not one designed for packet sniffing?04:35
jubei1024tritium, i want to use this 500hz usb polling patch04:35
robert82aby packet sniffing i mean war driving or whatever else its called04:36
Dull404transgress, did you get mplayer to work?04:36
tritiumjubei1024, you're best off installing nvidia-kernel-source, and reading the documentation that comes with it to build a module for your custom kernel04:36
transgressDull404: no04:36
Dull404transgress, me neither :/ not yet....04:37
jubei1024tritium, I just used the nvidia installer =) seems ok04:37
karljpwhat about the binary installer?04:37
karljpit works pretty good for most people :)04:37
tritiumkarljp, it's not an ubuntu package, and thus not the preferred option04:38
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karljpwell, the preferred option would be for nvidia to be helpful04:38
karljpbut I'll take ease of use and actual functionality anyday04:39
karljpdoing some things the "proper" way is a waste of time and energy04:39
tritiumkarljp, the ubuntu packages are extremely easy to use04:39
karljpjubeil: did you manage to get an ubuntu package to work?04:39
tritiumjubei1024, used the nvidia installer because he built a custom kernel04:39
tritiumso that's a side case04:40
karljpoh, so because he has some need for a custom kernel, he now also has to use the hard way to get an nvidia driver?04:40
tritiumkarljp, it's as easy as 2 steps to use the ubuntu packages: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto04:40
jubei1024./run_NVIDA_installer is hard?04:41
tritiumjubei1024, don't put words in my mouth04:41
GoneBoBjubei1024: no04:41
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karljptritium: didn't you say that because he was on acustom kernel he couldn't use those packages?04:41
odysseyhey look a hedgehog04:42
transgressDull404: apt-get install totem-xine and use totem to play dvd's04:42
jubei1024thanks for your help tritium, I appreciate it.04:42
transgressit's working great04:42
tritiumkarljp, yes, I told him he could have used nvidia-kernel-source instead04:42
tritiumjubei1024, no problem :)04:42
axass: nambla ain't shit, the taliban are the shit04:42
axoops04:42
axthat was a joke and ment to go somewhere else04:42
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odysseyax is a terrorist04:42
yoinkanyone know a ripping prog that uses xine?04:42
yoinkfor preview04:43
Amaranthripping what?04:43
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axha04:43
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jodahey - can someone tell me how I find out if the vpn kernel module is loaded_04:44
joda?04:44
djone|awaynorth american man boy love ass.?04:44
karljplsmod | grep vpn?04:44
djone|awayjoda, lsmod04:44
jodathanks :)04:44
yoinkAmaranth, ripping DVD's04:45
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axyoink: you could use dvdrip, just tell it to use xine i figure04:46
xfSxmy ubuntu file assocations are messed up, when i try to pick a new app (vlc for movies) it says can't add application to database04:46
Amaranthdjone|away: wtf was that?04:46
LevanderHas anybody else noticed reduced memory consumption after upgrading to Hoary from Warty?04:46
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yoinkax, ok thanks ill give it a shot04:46
AmaranthLevander: Most people say it's the other way around.04:46
AmaranthLevander: I didn't really notice a difference because I used apps that mangle the heap.04:47
Amaranths/used/use/04:47
stazichhey04:47
Levandernot for me, it's wierd, i've never even see the cached memory get up to my physical limit of 51204:47
yoinkax, dvdrip cant be installed w/ synaptic bc transcode isnt available...i forgot this was a problem04:47
Levanderguess I'm just lucky04:48
stazichis Forcing to use ALSA driver for XFCE mixer in the XFCE installation a good idea if i use an iMac which better supports oss?04:48
axyoink: ahh, yeah, i'm not using ubuntu, i'm just on this channel cux i installed it for my girlfriend04:48
Levanderthe new system fonts in hoary rock, look much clearer04:48
Amaranth"If the heap is UUxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxU (Used, x=free), then all that x=free space is at best swapped out (very bad); when the far right Used space is freed, the thing will finally shrink the heap and return it to the system. I've seen this cause Nautilus to use 300M of memory (RSS) after it had to delete 6000 files; good news being it won't allocate any MORE memory until it's used the empty area. This is likely also why Firefox eats about 40M at sta04:48
Amaranthrt-up and 100M later, then stops growing but won't shrink either."04:48
Amaranthwow, that was too long04:48
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axyoink: you can always compile it from source :)04:49
nnonixd04:49
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gbhathi ppl04:49
karljplevander: do you know how to just grow them a bit?04:49
delltonyi'm not sure how to ask this so ill do my best you now how you have modules that autorun on bootup i know there was a directory somwhere on the system that had numbers like 050 or whatever. and that was the slot in which the module ran. any one have any idea of this. Cause i remember moving like ndiswrapper to a higher lower number and such.04:49
gbhatlatest kde updates broken?04:49
yoinkyeah, actually its harder than it looks04:49
Levanderkarljp: grow what?04:49
karljpthe system fonts04:50
yoinkive had trouble getting "libz" which it asks for04:50
Amaranthyoink: I'll get you a finx.04:50
karljpmy xterm default font is pretty, but a bit small04:50
axfinx?04:50
AmaranthOh, no I won't04:50
gbhatare the latest kde updates broken?04:50
karljpand the medium/large fonts are just ugly04:50
Amaranthfix04:50
Levanderkarljp: in hoary, System -> Fonts04:50
gbhat"trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf" is the error I get when I install the latest KDE updates04:50
axahh.. isn't there a transcode deb?04:51
Levanderkarljp: actually, System -> Preferences -> Font04:51
Levanderkarljp: looks like you can not only resize them, but change them in there04:51
yoinknot in my synaptic, which has all the universe and multiverse repos04:51
gbhatanyone in here using kubuntu?04:52
Amaranthyoink: You need the marillat repository.04:52
thegreedyturtledelltony /etc/X11/Xsession.d04:52
gbhatAmaranth, nice work on the gnome menu editor04:52
Levandergbhat: you know there's a kubuntu channel04:52
Amaranthgbhat: I try. :)04:52
delltonyok thanks04:52
cens0redI've got a partition on another drive that is designated as Linux swap space. How do I mount it?04:52
gbhatAmaranth, still no way to edit what synaptic put in there eh?04:52
Levandercens0red: you don't04:52
cens0redLevander I don't?04:53
Amaranthgbhat: You mean the Debian menu?04:53
cens0reddon't I need swap space?04:53
delltonyyep thats it thegreedyturtle thanks04:53
thegreedyturtledeltony: you can do system -> preferences -> session tab startup04:53
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Levandercens0red: i believe you just tell fdisk to use it as swap04:53
gbhatAmaranth, yeah.  gobbledegook in bnoth GNOME and KDE04:53
Levandercens0red: let me check something04:53
gbhatsome KDE entries in gnome and all gnome entires in KDE04:53
delltonyif i was running gnome i sure could ;)04:53
delltonybut i'm not running gnome :D04:53
karljphmm, xterm doesn't behave as well as gnome-terminal for fonts04:53
Amaranthgbhat: Out of my hands. The library I use to get info about the menus doesn't support it so I can't.04:53
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xfSxmy ubuntu file assocations are messed up, when i try to pick a new app (vlc for movies) it says can't add application to database04:53
gbhatshadows and translucency works great in KDE3.4 but Gnome is real finicky04:54
cens0redsamlowry_ ha. I know that reference.04:54
samlowry_thanks04:54
gbhatbrb04:54
karljpaka, at all.04:54
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karljpalso, stupid stupid layout bugs04:54
Amaranthgbhat: In breezy (with GNOME 2.12) I should be able to use the same library the actual menu uses so that should help.04:54
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Levandercens0red: you don't mount it with the normal mount command, I assume if you run a "sudo /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/hd?", the partition's type is already 82?04:54
karljpthat font prefs panel is busted if you make the font too big04:54
karljpgahh, who do you report UI bugs to?04:55
Levandercens0red: then I believe you just have to have a /etc/fstab entry like: /dev/hda6       none            swap    sw              0       004:55
yoinkAmaranth, i can figure out how to get that from the ubuntu pages, right?04:55
cens0redLevander I just did a $fdisk -l. And yes, there is an 82 in the listing.04:55
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Amaranthyoink: Probably from the ubuntu guide even.04:56
hypnokarljp: probably someone's bugzilla04:56
karljpprobably :)04:56
Levandercens0red: do you have a /etc/fstab entry for the swap partition?04:56
karljpthis is my problem with linux, on windows, if I had a bug, I just put up with it, but now I spend all this time filing and narrowing down bugs and reporting them.04:56
cens0redLevander no I don't.04:57
Levandercens0red: like in my next comment after the fdisk one04:57
karljpI'm not sure what's a better use of my time.04:57
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cens0redLevander should I do $sudo nano /etc/fstab and paste that stuff in?04:57
Levandercens0red: I think that's all you need, then try a "sudo mount /dev/hda6", and see if it works without rebooting.  If doesn't work, gotta reboot04:57
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bur[n] eranyone know how to set the horizontal and vertical spacing for desktop icons??04:58
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Levandercens0red: You have to change /dev/hda6 to whatever device your swap partition is.04:58
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xfSxno one know how to fix file associations for mpgs?04:58
gbhatwell #kubuntu  has gone to sleep04:58
Amaranthgbhat: In breezy (with GNOME 2.12) I should be able to use the same library the actual menu uses so that should help.04:58
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Levandercens0red: And, I'd type it in by hand and not copy and paste.  Line up tabs and spaces with the other entries in /etc/fstab04:58
bur[n] erxfSx: right click it, properties, open with04:58
adextawhat's the equivalent of artsplay in gnome?04:59
transgressis there a gnome program for viewing wireless networks?04:59
bur[n] eradexta: esd04:59
gbhatbut I thought 2.12 would have its own menu editor04:59
transgressala kwifimanager but for gnome04:59
cens0redLevander it is /dev/hd604:59
Amaranthadexta: What is artsplay?04:59
transgressor even something like ksimet04:59
transgresskismet04:59
bur[n] ertransgress: wifi radar04:59
Levandercens0red: it can't be /dev/hd604:59
Amaranthgbhat: Manny is working on it, it might not make it.04:59
xfSxdoesn't work burner, it tells me can't add application to database when i try and add vlc for mpg04:59
Levandercens0red: gotta be something like /dev/hda604:59
transgressaptable bur[n] er ?04:59
Amaranthgbhat: Besides, maybe mine will be better. :)04:59
cens0redLevander sorry /dev/hda604:59
gbhatAmaranth, hope so :)04:59
bur[n] ertransgress: unfortunately, no04:59
transgressbleh04:59
bur[n] erthe gnome-network applet can do wireless stuff04:59
cens0redLevander errr ... I mean /dev/hdb6 sorry04:59
tritiumadexta, it would be esdplay in esound-clients05:00
gbhatany news on a decent CD burner app for Gnome? I use gnomebaker now05:00
bur[n] erbut it doesn't show you signal strength or nearby networks05:00
adextatritium: thanks.05:00
bur[n] ergbhat: gnomebaker & graveman05:00
tritiumgbhat, gnomebaker and graveman05:00
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gbhatthanks guys but what are the plans for 2.12? gnome needs a k3b type app for itself by default05:00
Levandercens0red: so yeah, make a backup of /etc/fstab to something like /etc/fstab.dist, then edit the file, then try the mount command, then if it doesn't work try rebooting05:00
gbhatI use gnomebaker now05:00
bur[n] erback to gnome 2.12 and the menu... will there be right click properties to adjust .desktop files?05:01
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Levandercens0red: if then rebooting doesn't work, try using the grub menu to boot into the "safe" version of your kernel05:01
Levandercens0red: and restore your back up'd /etc/fstab, then reboot again05:01
bur[n] ergbhat: gnomebaker is as good as it gets... it's relatively new... what's wrong with it?05:01
gbhatthe only thing that drags me back to Ubuntu from MDK, solaris10,BeOS installed on this system is shadows and translucency05:01
cens0redLegendre I just did what u proscribe, and did a $sudo mount -a . No errors. Does that mean my swap space is now mounted?05:01
cens0redLevander  I just did what u proscribe, and did a $sudo mount -a . No errors. Does that mean my swap space is now mounted?05:01
gbhatbur[n] er, it is a separate install?05:01
gbhatbur[n] er, I wanted to know id gnome2.12 would have a default cd burner app05:02
bur[n] eru don't have it?05:02
bur[n] ernautilus cd burner?05:02
bur[n] erjust apt-get gnomebaker :)05:02
gbhatyeah yeah I did05:02
bur[n] erwho cares if it's "default"05:02
bur[n] erit works05:02
AmaranthCoaster is going to be the "default" eventually05:02
zulcens0red: to turn on swap do the following sudo swapon -a05:02
gbhattakes away slightly from the completeness05:02
gbhatlol@coaster05:03
AmaranthIf it makes it in time for even 2.14 I'd be surprised.05:03
gbhatnice name05:03
Levandercens0red: open system monitor, go to the resources tab, look at how much swap it says you have05:03
gbhatI aint dissing mind you05:03
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cens0redLevander used 4.5MB of 6.8 GB05:04
Levandercens0red: is 6.8 GB more than you had before?05:04
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cens0redLevander to be honest, I don't know heh.05:05
bur[n] er6.8 GIGS of swap?!?05:05
bur[n] erlol05:05
cens0redbur[n] er is that extravigant?05:05
amonkeyhow do i free up /dev/ttys0 so that pilot-xfer (out of the repos) can bind to it?05:05
bur[n] eryes05:05
Levandercens0red: bur[n] er is right, you don't need nearly that much05:05
bur[n] ergeneral rule... double your ram05:05
Levandercens0red: 512MB of swap should be way more than enough05:05
bur[n] er512 ram == 1024 swap05:05
bur[n] eror yeah05:05
bur[n] erthat works too05:05
karljpdouble your ram is excessive these days isn't it?05:05
cens0redLevander oh well I've got it now.05:05
xfSxbur[n] er when i do try and add vlc for mpg it fails with error unable to add application to database05:05
bur[n] erkarljp: probably05:05
bur[n] erxfSx: let me test with vlc05:06
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mginounote, too much swap can be a problem (really)05:06
Levandercens0red: would be easy to delete that partition, and make it into on small one, ~512MB, and one big one, that would have like 6.3 GB on it, more than enough to install an entire other operating system05:06
bur[n] erxfSx: works for me05:06
bur[n] eru sure vlc is installed correctly?05:06
bur[n] erright click open with... then pick vlc?05:06
bur[n] er/usr/bin/vlc05:07
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Levandercens0red: unmount it before you delete it05:07
yoinkAmaranth, im having trouble with the public key...dont get it05:07
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Amaranthyoink: I don't use the marillat repository, so I dunno. Is it an error or a warning?05:07
gbhatdarn! sound no worky in Hoary again05:07
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gbhatbrb05:08
xfSx'vlc for gnome ' wxvlc05:08
Levandercens0red: and note that the geek way to check if swap has been recognized is that there's probably a file in /proc that lists information saying how much swap you have.  The System Monitor way I'm sure is fine though, just recommended it because I already had System Monitor open on my desktop, and could tell you easily05:08
cens0redLevander I probably should heh. So what should I do with a 6.3GB partition?05:08
xfSxhmm shame05:08
bur[n] erxfSx: "gvlc" too05:08
yoinkwell, yeah, it needs a public key05:08
Amaranthyoink: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories05:08
yoinkwhen i follow the directions to doing that i get another error05:08
LevanderI swear hoary is using less memory on my machine, I have never seen firefox use less than 115 MB of RAM on my machine.  Right now it's using 92.7 MB of RAM.  I may not even have to buy more memory now....05:09
bur[n] eryoink: disregard key errors05:09
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bur[n] erLevander: get opera :)05:09
Levandercens0red: you could be lazy and do it later, but for me, there always comes a time down the road when I want the space05:09
yoinkbut it doesnt load the repository then05:09
AmaranthLevander: You just got lucky.05:09
bur[n] ercens0red: you could always use gparted to change the sizes05:09
cens0redbur[n] er gparted? Ok.05:10
Levandercens0red: since your just using it for swap, would be easy to "resize" later, you don't have the normal concerns about making partitions to small or to big since it's just swap05:10
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AmaranthLevander: It's a mangled heap issue. If you have UUxxxxxxxxxxxxU where U is used and x is free on the heap that whole section will be assigned to the app. This is why firefox and nautilus eat RAM.05:10
AmaranthLevander: If that last U get freed somehow it'll shrink the UU.05:10
yoinkbur[n] er, nevermind, i think you're right05:10
cens0redLevander so I can resize it without having to worry about re formatting?05:10
bur[n] eryoink: i know ;)05:10
gbhatwhat is the latest on gdesklets on Hoary?05:11
bur[n] ercens0red: correct... especially with gparted05:11
Levandercens0red: no, you'll have to reformat05:11
gbhatthey dont seem to be working correctly05:11
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bur[n] erLevander: not true... use gparted05:11
Levandercens0red: and it's not really a "resize" like you would do with parted.  It's more a delete one partition and create two new ones for you05:11
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crimsunDull404: have you used unrar?05:11
WildTangentdoes anyone here have experience using Wine? i cant seem to get programs listed on their gold list to work05:12
yoinkbur[n] er, since your so smart, i got another question05:12
Levanderbur[n] er: I'd recommend him not use parted because he doesn't really need it, it's more complicated and not as safe05:12
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gbhatWildTangent, whatcha want to use?05:12
bur[n] erparted is safe05:12
bur[n] eri use it regularly05:12
WildTangentPaint Shop Pro for now05:12
bur[n] erand it's a gui05:12
yoinkbur[n] er, transcode:05:12
yoink Depends: libavcodeccvs but it is not going to be installed05:12
tritiumWildTangent, have you tried using both winetools and wine from winehq.com? (wine in universe is not compatible with winetools from winehq.com)05:12
gbhatWildTangent, using latest wine?05:12
yoinkthats my error du jour05:12
LevanderAmaranth: you gotta link about what your talking about with the memory, I'm just elated how much less memory I'm using, and want to hear about what's going on for everybody else.  Is possible I can even figure out why I'm lucky05:12
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bur[n] eryoink: whatcha trying to install?05:13
cens0redLevander and bur[n] er hey I was getting sytem bottlenecks before. Desktop kept seizing up. Thought it might be because I had no swap space enabled. Good assumption?05:13
WildTangentim not sure, i got it with APT05:13
yoinktranscode05:13
bur[n] ercens0red: could be, if you have low ram05:13
AmaranthLevander: heap == memory :)05:13
tritiumWildTangent, you'd know if you setup apt to see the winehq repositories05:13
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gbhatWildTangent, you got it installed already?05:13
bur[n] eryoink: i have no idea what transcode is ;)05:13
WildTangentyes05:13
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cens0redbur[n] er 256meg05:13
AmaranthWildTangent: Why do games created with you suck? :)05:13
bur[n] eryoink: maybe a broken package05:14
WildTangent?05:14
gbhatwhat error do you get WildTangent ?05:14
bur[n] ercens0red: prolly a safe assumption05:14
Levandercens0red: is very possible, but any more than 512 MB of swap isn't going to help.  If you're swapping 512 MB of RAM, you're system is going to be slow as shit.  I max mine out at 100 MB, figuring if I swap more than that, I'm hosed anyway.05:14
thundrcleezeAmaranth, probably because WildTangent sucks and is full of adware.05:14
WildTangentAmaranth, elaborate...05:14
gbhatI always set my swap to 512MB05:14
yoinkax, any ideas on this error?05:14
yoinktranscode:05:14
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LevanderAmaranth: I understood what you said, just would like to read more.05:14
yoink Depends: libavcodeccvs but it is not going to be installed05:14
WildTangenti dont seem to get any errors05:14
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bur[n] eryoink: apt-get install libavcodeccvs05:14
Amaranthyoink: sudo apt-get install libavcodeccvs so we can use the error it's getting05:14
gbhatso what is the problem WildTangent ?05:14
WildTangentthe programs just dont show up in Wines "windows" folder05:14
AmaranthLevander: I don't know what else to way...05:14
cens0redLevander so excessive swap space is bad! bad! BAD!! ?05:15
stazichwhat shell command would i use for LS to show file sizes in a directory?05:15
gbhatWildTangent, does it run fine from the command prompt?05:15
bur[n] erstazich: ls -l05:15
] BreliC[Do I only need nfs-common to set up nfs?05:15
WildTangentyes05:15
Amaranthstazich: du05:15
bur[n] erstazich: ls -lh05:15
WildTangentit begins installing, then i close the window, but theres nothing in the windows folder and program files05:15
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gbhatWildTangent, why not let it complete? DId you run wineboot afterwards?05:16
Levandercens0red: no, it's not bad, it's just that you won't ever need that much swap.  After you run out of physical ram, your OS starts using your hard disk as RAM.  It starts "swapping" memory out to disk.  The hard disk being mechanical is a *lot* slower than your electronic RAM.  If you're swapping out gigs of RAM, you system has something really wrong05:16
WildTangentmaybe my memory has gaps, i tried this first late at night05:16
WildTangentwineboot?05:16
gbhatWildTangent, wineboot simulates a windows reboot05:16
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WildTangentah...05:16
gbhatit is necessary to complete some program installations on wine05:16
Levandercens0red: It's just that it's a waste of disk space is all.  But, if you don't need it for now, go ahead and be lazy, unless your just curious about getting it done better, etc.05:16
WildTangenthold on...05:16
yoinkAmaranth, output in #flood05:16
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WildTangentwould physically rebooting the system accomplish the same thing?05:17
gbhatWildTangent, no :D05:17
gbhatthat is the beauty of wine05:17
Levander] BreliC[: when you install nfs via apt-get, it will tell you and install itself nfs-common if you need it05:17
cens0redLevander well I have stuff to do. But I expect I will get around to it. I haven't got infinite disk space either.05:17
gbhatWildTangent, run wineboot from a console and see what happens05:17
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Levandercens0red: yeah, know what you mean05:17
] BreliC[Levander, ahh, thanks.. so just apt-get nfs ?05:18
yoinkAmaranth, its like a never ending chasing after the wind, eh?05:18
Levander] BreliC[: sudo apt-get install nfs05:18
helloyois anyone here handy with openoffice graphs?05:18
cens0redLevander and bur[n] er thanks.05:18
] BreliC[Levander, hehe, yeah, that's what i meant.. just tired ;)05:18
gbhatanyone use Kino?05:18
Dull404crimsun, yeah i figured it out. i forgot "rar" is split into rar and unrar ;)05:18
Amaranthyoink: It's just because these apps weren't meant for Ubuntu and now sid has moved past hoary.05:18
Amaranthyoink: I think, anyway.05:18
gbhatI get a segfault when closing the kino program as regular user but not as sudo05:18
AmaranthDull404: Actually, no.05:18
WildTangentcommand not found05:19
Levandercens0red: bur[n] er was right though in telling you you don't need that much, you should probably know that it is excessive even if it's not important to fix it.  If you didn't know, all your geek friends would laugh at you when you saw that.05:19
gbhatWildTangent, whereis wine05:19
yoinkAmaranth, recommendations?05:19
bur[n] eranyone know where to get java deb packages for use with azureus?05:19
WildTangentusr/libs i believe05:19
AmaranthDull404: iirc rar is the non-free version that works with all files (rar -x file.rar) and unrar is the Free version that doesn't work with newer files05:19
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gbhatWildTangent, do a whereis wine05:19
Amaranthyoink: Not a one, sorry.05:19
LevanderAmaranth: did I miss a link about that memory issue, have been doing a couple of other things...05:19
GoneBoBLevander: it's not that simple05:19
tritiumbur[n] er, Method 2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java05:19
bur[n] erand rar non-free doesn't work with file-roller05:19
bur[n] er:\05:19
AmaranthLevander: Nope, because I don't understand what you want.05:19
bur[n] erthough it's fixed in cvs05:19
cens0redLevander I see what you mean. I should keep this embarrassing little gaff a secret then.05:19
GoneBoBit doesn't use it after it runs out05:19
Dull404Amaranth, i know but for use with fileroller, i had to install unrar :(05:19
WildTangenthttp://www.bolterandchainsword.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=72119&st=75&p=829478&#entry82947805:20
WildTangentoops05:20
WildTangentlol05:20
Amaranthbur[n] er: Really? It appears to work for me...05:20
GoneBoBLevander: when memory is unused after a certain time05:20
LevanderAmaranth: you're talking about some memory bug present in hoary, wanted to read more about it05:20
GoneBoBit will swap to desk05:20
GoneBoBdisk05:20
WildTangentusr/bin/wine05:20
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bur[n] erAmaranth: hoary? or breezy?05:20
AmaranthLevander: It's not a bug, it's the way malloc() works.05:20
gbhatWildTangent, /usr/bin/wineboot on my box05:20
GoneBoBto allow that memory to be used as cache/buffers05:20
LevanderGoneBoB: he just asked if he needed nfs-common, apt-get will tell him05:20
thundrcleezeI have it but I don't use it, gbhat05:20
Amaranthbur[n] er: breezy but nothing GNOME related has new versions05:20
gbhatthundrcleeze, run it as user and letme know if it segfaults just by opening and closing it05:20
LevanderGoneBoB: yeah, I know, but didn't want to explain all the details, go for it if you want to05:20
Dull404Amaranth, nope rar non-free doesnt work with file-roller05:20
AmaranthDull404: Got a bug number?05:21
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gbhatWildTangent, then run it as /usr/bin/wineboot05:21
Dull404Amaranth, nope05:21
thundrcleezeshould I open a file when it's open, gbhat?05:21
gbhatnope thundrcleeze just open and close05:21
LevanderAmaranth: so even warty was like that?  I thought you were trying to explain why most people have higher memory use in Hoary than Warty?05:21
Levander(except for me)05:21
AmaranthLevander: warty was the same, yes.05:21
gbhatLevander, how much RAM you got?05:22
AmaranthLevander: So was foo distro from 1992.05:22
thundrcleezethen no problems for me, gbhat05:22
WildTangentits not there05:22
Levandergbhat: 512 MB RAM05:22
gbhattis slow even with 512MB RAM?05:22
LevanderAmaranth: okay, thanks05:22
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gbhatahh thundrcleeze thanks. some problem on my end. You got firewire on your PC thundrcleeze ?05:22
thundrcleezeYes I do.05:22
pakkiriwarty was faster05:22
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gbhatonboard firewire?05:22
pakkiriwith hoary my system is very slow05:22
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thundrcleezegbhat, with the audigy card.05:23
bur[n] erthanks tritium05:23
WildTangentjust ran /usr/bin/wine and got this05:23
gbhatI got composite enabled and even shadows and transparency. KDE3.4 flies05:23
gbhatWildTangent, not wine05:23
WildTangentshit, wont copy.05:23
skel_homeok, after reading through the faq and doing the usualy with ssh X11 forwarding, I still can't get it to work.. am I missing something specific to ubuntu?05:23
gbhatwineboot05:23
WildTangentwineboot isnt there05:23
gbhatWildTangent, then try installing wineutils05:23
WildTangenthow?05:23
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gbhatsudo apt-get install  wineutils05:24
skel_homeI've enabled X11 forwarding in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and made sure my .Xauthority file is good, there's nothing in /etc/hosts.deny or /etc/hosts.allow05:24
gbhatsudo apt-get install  wine-utils05:24
tritiumwinetools are a lot easier to use...05:24
gbhatnot wineutils05:24
skel_homeand I've tried ssh -X & ssh -Y host05:24
WildTangentcouldnt find ut05:24
WildTangent*it05:24
WildTangentit must be something else05:25
skel_homebut any X based app I execute cannot connect to the server05:25
skel_homeany ideas?05:25
gbhatWildTangent, wine-utils05:25
gbhatnot wineutils my bad05:25
WildTangenthuzzah05:25
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gbhatWildTangent, now try running wineboot05:26
Dull404skel_home, sshd: ALL , in hosts.allow ?05:26
WildTangentshibby05:26
LevanderDid anybody else lose the icons for the trash and the "show desktop" panel applets?05:27
skel_homeDull404: does it need to be? I've never had to do that before.. I'll give it a shot though05:27
gbhatshibby =  good or bad?05:27
LevanderWhen they upgraded to hoary05:27
WildTangentits doing something, thats encouraging :)05:27
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gbhatlol05:27
thundrcleezeDoes anyone else have a problem with rhythmbox where you select an online stream and it "buffers" endlessly?05:27
WildTangenthmm, seems to have stopped...05:27
WildTangent:(05:27
skel_homeDull404: still nothing =/05:27
gbhatWildTangent,  let it do its thing05:28
gbhatthundrcleeze, always does it the first time05:28
] BreliC[Levander, apt-get install nfs gives me an error.. Couldn't find package.  I have multiverse and universe enabled05:28
WildTangentits not doing anything, just stopped dead05:28
gbhatWildTangent, no error nothing?05:28
WildTangentnope05:28
Dull404skel_home, hm.. im not that familiar with sshd, but does it need a data port to be opened in the firewall? an extra05:28
thundrcleezegbhat, what do you mean?  It doesn't do that for you?05:28
kamikaziwell i'm thinkin' to switch to ubuntu from gentoo cause i really got tuff from compilation each package i want to install, is ubuntu based on debian so that i can use apt-get as in debian ??05:29
gbhatthundrcleeze, it always does it for me the first time I try to run an audio stream05:29
WildTangentstarting doing stuff in the terminal, and it stopped, i can enter any commands right now05:29
Dull404kamikazi, yes it is05:29
thundrcleezegbhat, then you click stop and try it again and it works?05:29
gbhatWildTangent, then it is done :)05:29
skel_homeDull404: not with -X / -Y , no05:29
gbhatthundrcleeze, have to close it and start it again05:29
skel_homeDull404: it's supposed to forward the X protocol through the existing connection05:30
WildTangenttheres a few error 193s05:30
Levander] BreliC[: well then the package is probably not called nfs.  "apt-cache search nfs" to find relevant packages05:30
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gbhat193s?05:30
gbhatWildTangent, if you dont mind, uninstall and reinstall Photoshop05:31
Dull404skel_home, ok, i dont know then.... I would skip X ;)05:31
gbhatuninstaller should bring up the Add/Remove Programs for wine05:31
WildTangentstill nothing in program files :(05:31
WildTangentand how do i uninstall if its not there?05:31
skel_homeDull404: heh =P05:31
yoinkspeaking of rhythmbox, can anyone get it to play .m4a files?05:31
gbhatWildTangent, from a command prompt type uninstaller05:31
thundrcleezegbhat, this is the third time I've done that, and it's still buffering endlessly.  Are there any other shoutcast-compatable players for x besides xmms and rhythmbox?05:32
gbhatthundrcleeze, hmm what about muine?05:32
Dull404skel_home, "unsafe" ..well kind of ;)05:32
WildTangentwhat the flip is that? and where do i get it05:32
gbhatWildTangent, it is a part of wine05:32
WildTangenti still havent figured out how to uninstall anything on linux05:32
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gbhatthundrcleeze, whatcha dont like about xmms?05:32
WildTangenti need to get rid of XMMS too05:33
WildTangentit doesnt work05:33
gbhatWildTangent, if you are on Ubuntu apt-get remove <programname>05:33
LevanderWildTangent: "sudo apt-get remove <package>" the --purge option also remove the configuration files for the package05:33
skel_homeDull404: tunneled through an encrypted channel? I'd hardly call that unsafe ;P05:33
kamikaziok one more question, where can i get the ubuntu source CD ??05:33
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skel_homeDull404: on my local network might I add =P05:33
Dull404skel_home, arite then =P05:33
gbhatWildTangent, first things first, type the command 'uninstaller' in the command prompt and tell me what happens05:33
Levanderkamikazi: they'll mail you one or you can download it from ubuntulinux.org05:33
thundrcleezeSometimes it crashes, and other times it doesn't let me add an address.  When I click play after I "add" the address, it gives me the open file dialog.05:33
Levanderthe mailing is free05:33
WildTangenthold on, nuking XMMS05:33
gbhatthundrcleeze, sure the url is ip all the time/05:34
gbhatup?05:34
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Dull404Levander, dont forget deborphan and debfoster........05:34
WildTangenthuzzah....05:34
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stazichdoes anyone know how to install MS-ASF plugin for frefox to stream video?05:34
WildTangentonly winamp is listed05:34
gbhatstazich, mplayerplugin wont work?05:34
WildTangentit half worked05:34
Dull404Levander, apt-get cant remove everything05:34
thundrcleezegbhat, it's not, but I know when it is.05:34
gbhatWildTangent, first things first, type the command 'uninstaller' in the command prompt and tell me what happens05:35
WildTangentthe program ran, but it couldnt play anything05:35
WildTangenti did05:35
WildTangentand i just uninstalled winamp05:35
gbhatdid it show Photoshop in there?05:35
stazichi dont have it05:35
gbhatstazich, sudo apt-get install mplayerplugin05:35
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WildTangentit only listed winamp05:35
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stazichi cannot play video in frefox... i do not have mplayer or mplayer plugin as well i suppose.. how do i install you know?05:35
gbhatWildTangent, try installing Photoshop again05:35
stazichok, il try05:35
frankwhat's the difference between mplayerplugin and mozplugger?05:35
Dull404WildTangent, apt-get remove, cant remove everything...05:35
gbhatfrank, mplayerplugin is only for video05:36
gbhatit is a plugin for mplayer05:36
WildTangentill have to try later, gots to pretend like im sleeping, damn rents...05:36
stazichgbhat, E: Couldn't find package mplayerplugin05:36
frankgbhat, mplayerplugin plays audio too I'm pretty sure05:36
Dull404stazich, its in multiverse05:36
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gbhatstazich, sudo apt-get install mplayerplug-in probably?05:37
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stazichmultiverse? u mean like universe in Syn Apt manager? how to activate it?05:37
gbhatwhy doesnt Ubuntu have all reps enabled?05:37
stazichstill cant find... even with -05:37
Dull404stazich, add multiverse after universe05:37
SQL_Samhey what exactly is smbfs used for - is it seeing windows shared folders through linux?05:37
stazichhow?05:37
franksudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer05:37
stazichin Synaptic?05:37
Levandergbhat: because universe and multiverse aren't supported05:38
stazichmy apt get cannot find anything05:38
stazich. :(05:38
Dull404stazich, edit /etc/apt/sources.list05:38
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gbhatLevander, ahh!!05:38
gbhatstazich,  http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories05:39
stazichedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:39
stazichWarning: unknown mime-type for "/etc/apt/sources.list" -- using "application/*"05:39
stazichError: no write permission for file "/etc/apt/sources.list"05:39
Dull404stazich, you have to sudo05:39
gbhatstazich,  http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories05:39
stazichyeah05:39
stazichdidnt work with sudo neither05:40
stazichok05:40
frankstazich, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:40
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stazichok, it brought it up with gedit... what do i change there?05:40
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gbhatstazich,  http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories05:40
stazichk05:40
Dull404spo0nman, whats so special with that?05:41
frankWhere should bug reports go for universe packages?05:41
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spo0nmanDull404, how would you know? just look at your handle05:42
kamikaziis there a cluster ubuntu livecd, or should i make it by my self ?? :S05:43
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spo0nmankamikazi, please go ahead....05:43
kamikazispo0nman, oky next week, cause i have exams in this week :( "promise"05:44
Dull404spo0nman, eh?05:44
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SQL_Samwhat do i need to look at when trying to restart samba and I get a failure on starting samba daemons?05:46
gbhat?05:46
thundrcleezegbhat, installed muine but how do I add the link?05:46
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amonkeyexit05:48
spo0nmanDull404, :)05:48
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gbhatthundrcleeze, I just found out that muine wont play urls :|05:48
thundrcleeze:(05:49
gbhatthundrcleeze, lemme try mplayer05:49
gbhatthundrcleeze, what url?05:49
Dull404spo0nman, you were happy over apt, or that you were installing openoff ?05:50
geneo93geez that would have been my first pick05:50
desplesdai've just followed the apache2 setup guide from ubuntuguide, installed php4 and php4-mysql, but whenever I try to view any of my .php files it ends up not being processed but offered as a download05:50
desplesdacan anyone help?05:50
stazichif the package in apt-get for mplayer i386 is mplayer-386, what would it be for ppc/??05:50
frankstazich, you have ppc?05:51
stazichyeah05:51
stazichimac05:51
frankstazich, just get mplayer05:51
stazichhmm05:51
gbhatthundrcleeze, you use kde?05:51
stazichis there such?05:51
frankstazich, it will be the one for ppc05:51
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thundrcleezenorris, gbhat.05:51
thundrcleezeer... no, gbhat05:51
gbhatthundrcleeze, try amarok05:51
flodinedoes anyone know of a repository i can use for fluxbox?05:51
crimsunstazich: mplayer-powerpc, mplayer-g4, ...05:52
gbhatit is a little buggy but in kde I use it for playing my shoutcast playlist05:52
crimsunflodine: a repository? it's in universe.05:52
crimsunflodine: or did you mean themes?05:52
frankcrimsun: where do I submit a bug report for a universe package? (streamtuner)05:52
flodinewell that flux dont give you all the files05:52
flodinei tryed05:52
crimsunfrank: launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone05:52
crimsunflodine: "all the files"?05:53
flodinedude i load it with repos but there are no ini files or menu files05:53
flodinein flux05:54
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flodinewhats wrong05:54
swazodoes anyone here have doom 3 working05:54
crimsunflodine: um, the standard Debian menu works on my fluxbox installation from Hoary/universe...05:54
hksdudoes anybody know that if firefox 1.0.3 firefox for Ubuntu out yet?05:54
crimsunflodine: I have menu and menu-xdg installed05:54
crimsunhksdu: being worked on05:54
hksducrimsun: thanks05:54
flodineyou let the repository do it right05:54
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revelateranyone here use gnucash?05:55
swazoanyone?05:55
crimsunflodine: make sure you have menu and menu-xdg installed05:55
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revelateranyone here use gnucash?05:55
hksduHi, I saw someone is using the weather broadcast and system resource info panels on their Ubuntu desktop, what programs are they?05:55
revelater!!!!05:55
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flodinewhere can i find that crimsun05:56
thundrcleezegbhat, mplayer isn't compiled right for me, it's compiled without gui support.05:56
revelater?!?!?!05:56
danthemanhksdu: that's probably gdesklets05:56
thundrcleezerevelater, be patient.05:56
flodineok i found the there installed05:56
danthemanjust search for it in synaptic05:56
hksdudantheman: thanks...and I can install through synaptic?05:56
crimsunflodine: menu is in universe; menu-xdg is in main05:56
hksdudantheman: oops...hehe..thanks05:56
revelaterthundercleeze: i want to get this finixhed befoer i eat dinner, so i am not impatient, i am merly short on time05:56
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LevanderI'm reading a thread on ubuntuforums that says when people are using nautilus in hoary, and double clicking on a folder, it opens a new window for a folder.  But, it doesn't do that on my machine.  Anybody else's machine doing the same thing?05:57
flodineyeah its installed05:57
danthemanno problem05:57
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intradeanyone home how do you enable the dialup modem to setup in comand line on ubuntu?05:57
jubei1024How do I kill X in kubuntu?05:57
intradeopen konsole05:57
flodinecrimson dont understand why it wont load flux comletely05:57
intradetipe xkill05:58
nomasteryodajubei1024: ctrl+alt+bkspace05:58
intrademakes a deadly mouse cursor05:58
jubei1024noma: will that kill it or just restart it?05:58
nomasteryodalol05:58
revelaterjubeil024: or just command + alt +delete05:58
nomasteryodajubei1024: it will restart05:58
intradeto restart desctop type kicker05:58
hksdudantheman: I don't find it....05:58
intradewell on kanotix it works05:59
jubei1024I want to kill x. I typed sudo xkill in a virtual terminal and it didnt work05:59
danthemanhksdu: let me take a look in synaptic to make sure05:59
revelaterjubeil024: if you want to go to command line then just command alt F105:59
intradeanyone know does wvdialconf create work on ubuntu?05:59
revelaterjubeil024: to go back to x then type command alt F205:59
revelaternot typ, hit the keys06:00
danthemani did a search for gdesklets and it popped up right away06:00
intradeas there is no ppp tool06:00
geneo93intrade:  use pppconf06:00
danthemanhkdsu: it might be in the universe repository06:00
intradeok06:00
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jubei1024I need to shutdown x to execute another command, it wont run if x is running06:00
danthemanhkdsu: i think you can check on www.ubuntuguide.org for how to enable the universe repositories06:00
flodinecrimsun is that all you loaded to get flux up and running06:00
revelaterjubeil024: what i said eralyer will kill x: command + alt + F106:01
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jubei1024what is command?06:01
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revelaterjubeil024: to start again: command + alt + F206:01
jubei1024I dont have a command key06:01
revelaterjubeil024: sorry, used to using a mac, ctrl06:02
dhonnctrl? maybe06:02
jubei1024=)06:02
revelaterjubeil024: :P06:02
jubei1024ctrl + alt + f2 just takes me to a virtual terminal06:02
cens0redOff-topic, but lmao! http://mypage.iu.edu/~edicus/compare.jpg06:02
jubei1024it does not kill x06:02
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nomasteryodajubei1024: then you can kill x06:02
revelaterjubeil024: F1 first, F2 starts x06:02
jubei1024ok...06:02
dhonnwhat about ctrl+alt+backspace?06:03
danthemanhas anyone tried gcc 4.0 with hoary?06:03
jubei1024HEHE06:03
nomasteryodadhonn: jubei1024 is trying to kill it...06:03
mainerjubeil: ctrl+alt+backspace=kill x06:03
revelaterctrl+alt+backspace restarts x06:03
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dhonnnot on my system06:03
jubei1024HEH06:03
crimsunflodine: for me, yep06:03
jubei1024anyone?06:03
jubei1024I used to use telinit 306:03
revelaterHEH?06:04
jubei1024but that doesn twork anymore06:04
nomasteryodajubei1024: just do this... sudo ps ax | grep X...06:04
nomasteryodathen06:04
dhonngo to terminal try killall X06:04
nomasteryodakill the process06:04
nomasteryodadhonn, yea06:04
revelatergot to terminal and do: sudo init 106:04
flodinecrimsun how can i make sure i have the right  repository06:04
dhonnor Xorg06:04
mainerkill killall --help06:04
dhonnkillall Xorg then killall gdm06:05
mainerkillall --help for syntax,options,parameters06:05
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crimsunflodine: you should have main, restricted, and universe repos enabled (at least)06:05
revelaterjust ctrl+alt+F106:05
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revelaterjubeil024: ctrl+alt+F106:06
flodinecrimsun is there a new command to generate menu in flux06:06
revelaterjubeil024: just do it06:06
jubei1024HEH, ctrl+alt+f1 does NOT kill X06:06
jubei1024i have done it06:06
smoIsn't "/etc/init.d/gdm stop"  so much saner?06:06
jubei1024cause I am in v-terminal06:06
revelaterjubeil024: it shoule, x can't run i in single user mode06:07
revelater*should06:07
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nomasteryodarevelater: true06:07
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nomasteryodasudo init 1 will kill it06:07
nomasteryodaright?06:07
revelaterit should06:07
nomasteryodak06:07
revelateryes06:07
crimsunflodine: to generate? There's update-menus if you have the menu package installed06:08
revelaterif it doesn't re install your system, cause something aint right06:08
jubei1024if i use ctrl+alt+f1 i get a v-terminal, if I then press ctrl+alt+f7 i'm back in X, It never goes down06:08
intradeyup06:08
jubei1024if i use sudo init 1 can I still use my v-terminals?06:09
smojubei1024: X keeps respawning because gdm is designed to do so.  "/etc/init.d/gdm stop" as root (or via sudo) will stop that.06:09
intradei use sux06:09
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jubei1024you're saying ctrl+alt+f1 is supposed to shutdown X? I have never seen that in any distro06:09
revelaterjubeil024: it will just give you a regular terminal, i don't you may still be able to run a v terminal06:10
smono, ctrl+alt+f1 sends you to vt1.  X is still running on vt706:10
intradeit switches in text mode06:10
geneo93jubei1024:  cntl alt backspace06:10
jubei1024=)06:10
revelaterjubeil024: it SHOULD bring you into single user mode and kill x06:10
intradei hardly use that only to get nvidia driver going06:10
intradef106:11
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revelaterjubeil024: anyone want to do that and then type ps -A?06:11
geneo93telinit 306:11
intradeanyway seyyas i dont run ubuntu06:11
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jubei1024ps -A |grep X06:12
jubei1024= Xorg06:12
revelaterjubeil024: and you are int init 1?06:12
revelater*in06:12
jubei1024nope06:12
revelaterjubeil024: go to init 106:13
jubei1024I dont want to drop to that level yet06:13
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jubei1024what will init 3 do?06:13
revelaterjubeil024: type sudo init 106:13
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revelaterjubeil024: nothing06:13
revelaterjubeil024: unless you have more than 3 users06:13
revelaterjubei1024: its a 1 not an l :P06:14
geneo93init 3 will give u networking06:14
revelaterdoes anyone here use gnu cash?06:15
thundrcleezenot I, revelater06:15
jubei1024yeah now my installer is winging that i'm at runlevel 1 =)06:15
smodebian & ubuntu don't use runlevels like redhat et al.  0 is shutdown, 1 is single-user, 2 is normal, 6 is shutdown.  the rest aren't used06:15
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revelaterjubei1024: by winging you mean working?06:17
jubei1024Nope06:17
flodinecrimsun im in flux now why cant i generate the menu?06:18
jubei1024It says if I run the installer at runlevel 1 there will be problems06:18
geneo93yup for sure06:18
crimsunflodine: secondary-click?06:19
revelaterok, ctrl alt backspace, when you get into gdm again, select safe mode or terminal to log into, thenk killall x and killallgdm if neccessary06:19
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dougskif you'd like to replicate other distros' methods you'll need to edit inittab to default to 5 and inside rc3.d you'll mv S13gdm to K13gdm06:20
revelaterhey anyone know how to burn iso's in linux?06:20
flodinecrimsun im in flux now i have 3 things in my menu how do i generate the menu06:21
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smorevelater: If you're in gnome, right-click in nautilus should include a menu item for it.  if not, man cdrecord06:21
jubei1024i'm running kubuntu06:21
revelaterflodine: go to #fluxbox, but i may be able to answer your question, first are you using hoary?06:21
smojubei1024: then "/etc/init.d/kdm stop" instead of gdm stop :)06:22
elcurevelater: ubuntuguide.org06:22
flodineyes06:22
revelaterflodine: then i bleieve you just need to type in a term fluxbox-generate_menu06:22
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flodinerevelater i tryed that it says command not found06:23
flodinethis is crazy06:23
revelaterflodine: build it yourself then06:23
XTCboarderanybody been able to run flashmx2004 in wine?06:23
revelaterflodine: type in command line: emacs ~/.fluxbox/menu06:24
benplautXTCboarder: as far as i know, nobody has ever done it successfully (and documented it online)06:25
flodinerevelater this what im telling you ubuntu install half of flux06:25
flodinewow gnomes is calling06:25
smoXTCboarder: http://frankscorner.org/?p=flashmx   It doesn't mention 2004, but it looks like a sane start06:25
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revelaterflodine: yes, it doesn't install everything, i know, i was in your same psoition not 5 days ago06:26
jubei1024yah /etc/init.d/kdm stop is what I was looking for06:26
jubei1024Thanks guys06:26
revelaterflodine: here is what you do: type in the beggining of the file [begin]  (Fluxbox)06:27
revelaterflodine: go to a new line and everything you type should begin with something in []  which is a command06:28
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revelaterflodine: then after that you give the item a name such as (fluxbox) titles the menu fluxbox06:28
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revelaterflodine: go to a new line and everything you type should begin with something in []  which is a command06:29
revelaterflodine: how much did you get before yout client quit?06:29
revelaterlove to help more but i have to go06:31
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yoinkguys, how do i get past synaptic when i've installed something from source but it doesnt know that?06:32
flodineis there a window manager that works out there for ubuntu i dont have to build06:32
crimsunflodine: don't care for the ones you've tried?06:33
yoinki installed mplayer from source, now i cant get the acidrip package bc of false dependency problemds06:33
flodineman why give me flux half as.....s06:33
flodinethat dont make sense06:33
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nomasteryodaflodine: i agree on that06:33
samlowryhey is that the jubei that was doing the kernel recompile?06:33
flodinefedora looking real good06:34
nomasteryodacan't be that much to compiling it though06:34
nomasteryodaflodine: no06:34
nomasteryodalet me look too06:34
flodinewhy give me flux partial06:34
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crimsunflux works fine on my livecd even06:34
flodinewho was drinking that day06:34
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XTCboarderdamn.... :(06:35
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amylynnwhohello06:35
nomasteryodaflodine: do you just see fluxbox and fluxconf?06:35
flodinei install flux no init file or meu files someone was drunk06:35
nomasteryodahey amylynnwho06:35
flodinenope06:35
nomasteryodaer, you need another repo added06:35
flodineyes06:36
amylynnwhoI'm new to linux and ubuntu...and IRC...what's this room about06:36
nomasteryodauniverse06:36
nomasteryodaubuntu06:36
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flodinedoes anyone got a new repost to add for flux06:36
nomasteryoda=)06:36
nomasteryodaflodine, i'm adding it right   now... i'll let you know how it goes06:36
flodineok06:37
nomasteryodai did it on another system... worked on it06:37
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geneo93fluxbox and fluxconf are needed06:38
nomasteryodaflodine: it's installed06:38
nomasteryodajust min06:38
crimsuntrust me, fluxbox is fine06:39
geneo93FluxConf is a simple GTK 2.0 application allowing fast and easy configuration06:39
geneo93of the Fluxbox window manager and its keyboard shortcuts.  This package also06:39
geneo93includes the fluxkeys, fluxmenu and fluxbare utilities.06:39
nomasteryodacrimsun: i know06:39
flodinei did both06:39
crimsunI've verified with both the ubuntu and kubuntu livecds06:39
flodinestill dint work06:39
crimsunflodine: what precisely doesn't work?06:39
flodinetheres no fluxmenu06:39
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flodineno fluxinit06:40
crimsunerr...06:40
crimsunhow did you install fluxbox?06:40
flodineapt06:40
flodineand then repos06:40
flodineboth didnt work06:40
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flodinewhen i sign in to flux it looks like it has no video06:41
flodinewhy06:41
samchianyone know the problem with ubuntu and mounting to loop? even with modprobe loop it still is unable to mount an image file.06:42
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crimsunsamchi: an "image file"?06:42
crimsunflodine: try apt-get --reinstall install fluxbox06:42
samchiyes as in disk image06:42
Enkiduwhat is the difference from regular, universe, and multiverse?06:42
crimsunEnkidu: please see the wiki :)06:42
crimsunsamchi: as an .iso or...?06:43
geneo93crimsun:  dont forget fluxconf06:43
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flodineman dude ive tried 100 times with flux06:43
samchiwell not an iso, but same concept06:43
crimsunsamchi: but the format _is_ important.06:43
samchiwell I know the format, that's besides the point it wouldn't matter what type of image I try to load even when I know they filesystem inside the loop filesystem is not working06:44
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flodinecan i get the repository site for flux06:44
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smosamchi: expand upon "not working" ? what errors does it throw?06:44
SQL_Samhow do you stop a ping?06:45
thegreedyturtlectrl c06:45
crimsunsamchi: so loop.ko is loaded, but mount -o loop ... doesn't work?06:45
SQL_Samthanks06:45
crimsunflodine: it's in your /etc/apt/sources.list06:45
SQL_Samiim trying to use swat - how do i figure out what my localhost is?06:46
samchibad option, bad superblock, on /dev/loop0,  and dmsg says06:46
flodinewell its not a good one06:46
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flodinecause you dont have no problems06:46
flodinewhy do i06:46
samchican't find filesystem on loop006:46
crimsunflodine: did you try --reinstall?06:46
flodineyes sir06:47
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Tecky-How do I install Gentoo ?06:47
crimsunflodine: describe precisely how you're invoking it?06:47
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samchino here's the funny thing, the same image is able to be mounted under osx and does have a correct filesystem being fat.06:47
dcravenTecky-, hehe06:47
crimsunTecky-: apt-get moo06:47
samchiAnother thing is that the filesystem is accessible under bochs or qemu06:47
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samchiwhen they are running...06:48
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crimsunsamchi: so you've passed mount -t vfat?  (not that it would make much sense, since iso9660 is the default...)06:48
Tecky-I want to use Gentoo.. and the folks in #gentoo sent me here ... said you guys would be able to help me install gentoo06:48
crimsunTecky-: apt-get moo06:48
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Tecky-apt-get moo ?06:49
SQL_Samiim trying to use swat - how do i figure out what my localhost is?06:49
samchiIt doesn't matter what I pass as -t!06:49
dcravenTecky-, I think they played you. Ubuntu is a different distro.06:49
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samchiit does the same thing!06:49
BigrobTecky-,  do you have super cow powers06:49
samchiI've tried different images all known to work outside of ubuntu hoary.06:49
Tecky-ubuntu is a different distro ? .... whats a distro ?06:49
nickrudapt-get moo :)06:49
Tecky-I was told to come on IRC (i'm new) and get a copy of Gentoo06:49
nickrudhow old is iti anyway06:49
thundrcleezeno nick, apt-get install moo06:50
samchiIs there another way to mount a imagefile without having to use loop?06:50
dcravenTecky-, follow the documentation on the Gentoo website. It's very well written.06:50
nickrudpicky, picky06:50
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cyphasehas anyone setup mod_python for apache?06:50
crimsunsamchi: not if you're using mount06:50
samchiwhat else could I use?06:50
Tecky-dcraven: but they told me to come in here for support ... why wont you guys support helping me install Gentoo06:50
dcravenTecky-, and just so you know, this is not the place to come for Gentoo support. They mislead you.06:50
crimsunsamchi: have you tried manually specifying a different loop device?06:50
Tecky-all I want is for someone to help me install gentoo06:50
cartel_ok anyone know a regex for the line AFTER the line containing your query06:50
samchiyes, on my /dev I see all the way up to loop606:51
Tecky-dcraven: why would they do that ... I thought linux was full of people helping other newbies06:51
samchiyes, on my /dev I see all the way up to loop706:51
dcravenTecky-, I give.06:51
samchiall the same06:51
Tecky-you give ?06:51
BigrobTecky-,  unbuntu is only for unbuntu if you want gentoo go to gentoo06:51
Tecky-give what ?06:51
nickrud:)06:51
dcravenup06:51
crimsundcraven: yep, don't feed.06:51
Bigrobbut you might want to try ubuntu06:51
Tecky-big: no they sent me here06:51
crimsun:)06:51
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yoinkguys, how do i get past synaptic when i've installed something from source but it doesnt know that?06:51
Bigrobit is pretty good and pretty easy to install06:51
dcravencrimsun, took me a minute, but I caught on ;P06:52
crimsunwonder if he's trolling in ##slackware and #suse, too :p06:52
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yoinkis there a force option of some kind?06:52
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Tecky-whats trolling ?06:52
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samchiI'm out of Ideas, anyone have some?06:52
geneo93Tecky-:  goto mandriva06:52
Tecky-geneo93: why should i go there ?06:52
BigrobTecky-, go to #debian if you want to learn about trolling06:53
crimsunsamchi: it's not encrypted, is it?06:53
samchino06:53
dcravenTecky-, type "/q" to get Gentoo.06:53
smoyoink: not easily.  you can dpkg -i --force-depends filename.deb .. but it'll keep getting messier06:53
Tecky-no i've done that before06:53
Tecky-it formats my hard drive06:53
nickrud:)06:53
pixil9Tecky-, You makin fun of ubuntu?06:53
crimsunsamchi: can you verify with a {k}ubuntu livecd?06:53
GigglesworthThey don't troll on #debian, they bite your head off.06:54
samchiI will try to verify tonight sometime with warty, to see if the problem is on hoary or the kernel...06:54
nickrudvirtually :)06:54
geneo93Tecky-:  try azaureus also06:54
Tecky-azaureus ?06:55
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yoinksmo, what would you recommend then? if i install anything from source it ruins package management?06:55
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nickrudTecky-, assuming you're serious, /join #gentu /leave(?) #ubuntu06:55
nickrud /join #gentoo06:55
Tecky-no one is in #gentu06:56
dr_willislol06:56
dr_willis#gentooo06:56
nickrudtry another network, please06:56
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SQL_Samthat is funny....06:56
smoyoink: that apt is only clever because it's in control.  About the best long-term fix is to learn to create packages (it's not as difficult as it sounds for most things)06:56
nickrudmoi ?06:56
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sihenhello all06:56
cyphasehas anyone here set up mod_python for apache? i've tried playing with the config files, but it's not processing the code. it just sends me the plain python code as a download06:56
yoinksmo, oh, and how can i get the deb name from apt?06:56
sihencould someone possible help me out, i get a W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: Unknown error executing gpgv when doing a apt-get update06:57
yoinksmo, my real problem is the mplayer package doesnt work, so i had to install it myself06:57
geneo93Tecky-:  if you cant install it on your own you cnat install apps either so just use ubuntu06:57
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pixil9what's the best tvtuner proggie?06:58
sihenanyone that could possible help me with that q?06:59
geneo93pixil9:  i use tvtime06:59
pixil9Ok.. it just uses /dev/video006:59
pixil9or whatever?06:59
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XizDaqrianSup all?07:00
XizDaqrianQuiet in here...07:00
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pixil9COol it works.07:00
skreetAnyone use Xgl on ubuntu yet?07:00
pixil9cept my cable is fucked and its fuzzy :(07:01
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spermis anyone alive the knogelable07:01
spermwith ubuntu?07:01
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pixil9how do i change channels lol07:02
spermokie07:02
geneo93uparrows07:02
spermtotem is now load wvm fikles07:02
geneo93down arrows07:02
spermthe codecs are not installing right07:02
pixil9thx07:02
spermanyone have an idea?07:02
geneo93f fullscreen07:03
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nickrudsperm, you using totem-gstreamer?07:03
spermi just removed it07:03
spermi am going to start all over.07:03
spermwhat should i install first.07:03
spermthe codecs?07:03
cyphasehas anyone here set up mod_python for apache? i've tried playing with the config files, but it's not processing the code. it just sends me the plain python code as a download07:03
cartel_yoink: apt-cache show07:03
spermor dose it not really matter.07:03
spermapt-get install w32codecs.07:03
spermthen apt-get install totom*07:04
spermthen i go and try to view a *.wmv file07:04
spermit dosent find the codecs07:04
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nickrudsperm, there's a wiki that will help with that, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:06
SQL_Samcrap - how do i get out of vi?07:06
nickrud:q07:06
spermyeah tried that07:06
spermsomething isnot right07:06
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spermi need to manully install them07:06
nickrudWorked for Me07:06
spermor something07:06
SQL_Samthanks07:06
spermdpkg -i *.deb07:06
spermcorrext?07:06
spermthat is that one?07:06
geneo93no just read the wiki07:07
nickrudwhat deb, and where did you get it? Is it signed?07:07
spermyeah it is sign'd07:07
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sihencould someone possible help me out, i get a W: GPG error: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release: Unknown error executing gpgv when doing a apt-get update07:08
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nickrudI wish07:09
nickrudgpg, almost as much voodoo as cups07:09
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GigglesworthI love it. I'm running an Ubuntu LiveCD within VMWare on WinXP. Ubuntu started up fine, connects to the network fine, plays sounds, etc. The only Linux distro so far to work this well out of the box.07:10
thundrcleezeoh great, synaptic hung.07:10
dazed Gigglesworth: thats whats strived for :)07:12
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geneo93sudo kill synaptic07:12
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spermyo man07:12
spermsame shit07:12
spermno decoers were found07:12
GigglesworthIn fact, it works so well that ...07:12
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thundrcleezeI know how to get rid of it, it's just not good.07:13
nickrudsperm, I looked again, and it's not the wiki you need, sorry :)07:13
nickrudso do this:07:14
nickrudcd ~/.gnome2/totem-plugins07:14
nickrudand, assuming you have the w32codes installed correctly07:14
spermyeah07:14
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nickrudln -s /usr/lib/win32/* .07:15
nickrudand try gstreamer-totem again07:15
dazedthats u log in and out of irc out of joy?07:15
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spermln: `./wmadmod.dll': File exists07:15
spermln: `./wmsdmod.dll': File exists07:15
spermln: `./wmspdmod.dll': File exists07:15
spermln: `./wmv8ds32.ax': File exists07:15
spermln: `./wmv9dmod.dll': File exists07:15
spermln: `./wmvadvd.dll': File exists07:15
spermln: `./wmvdmod.dll': File exists07:15
spermln: `./wmvds32.ax': File exists07:15
spermln: `./wnvplay1.dll': File exists07:15
spermln: `./wnvwinx.dll': File exists07:15
dazedsperm: use #flood or something like that to paste things over 4 lines07:15
geargolemHi, trying to fdisk my /dev/hdb107:16
nickrudso, you found the right wiki07:16
geneo93sperm:  maybe you should try vlc07:16
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spermvlc?07:16
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dazedlol07:16
dazedall those nick changes to go back to the original07:16
geneo93yes07:16
geneo93sperm:  i prefer mplayer myself07:17
spermThere were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///tmp/movie", you might need to install the corresponding plugins07:17
geargolemhow can I reformat my 2nd hd and what can I use it for?07:17
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spermthis is bullshit07:18
sperm!07:18
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Remenicsperm: what's the format?07:18
dazedsso install corresponding plugins?07:18
spermwmv07:18
cyphasehas anyone gotten mod_python to work with apache?07:19
Remenicsperm: what player are you using?07:19
ruggywhy is ubuntu so popular right now?07:19
Remenicsperm: xine & mplayer should handle them fine, if you install w32codecs (it's in apt-get)07:19
geneo93ruggy:  because its good07:19
Remenicruggy: beats me ;)07:19
Remenicyeah, they say it's good07:19
spermokie07:19
Remenicnot sure what it's good at though07:20
spermapt-get install w32codeces07:20
thundrcleezeI restarted synaptic, but now it doesn't let me apply anything, how do I get what it was applying back?07:20
spermapt-get install w32codecs07:20
spermi have done that.07:20
Remenicsperm: ok :)07:20
spermstill not working07:20
spermwhy is that?07:20
Remenicsperm: with mplayer?07:20
spermand idea's07:20
dazedsperm you get them from mallirat?07:20
geargolemHoary on hda1, Warty on hdb1.  How do I erase Warty/07:20
gigglesworthRuggy: ubuntu looks nice, it's pretty powerful, works well, and is very loyal to the original goals of free software.07:20
orospakr__when authenticating a user for login with PAM via some external auth server, how should I take care of ensuring the user is in all the appropriate groups for removable disk access, etc.?07:20
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guruffgeargolem; format? you can create filesystem on the disk and then mount it; formating disks is win32 crap07:20
mjchmm, how do I downgrade from breezy to hoary? heh07:20
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mjcapt source trick didn't help much I need more than that apparently07:21
dazedgigglesworth: very much so!07:21
geargolemguruff, how do I erase warty on the 2nd hd?07:21
ruggygigglesworth, sounds good i might try it someday07:21
dazedgeargolem: format?07:21
spermThere were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:////home/sperm/Desktop/tailer.wmv", you might need to install the corresponding plugins07:21
pixil9geargolem, mke2fs on /dev/hdb1.07:21
gigglesworthRuggy: people used to think this way about Debian, but Debian is getting behind the times in terms of a Desktop OS.07:21
pixil9As long as the partitions on the drive are setup07:22
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geargolemdid that, pixil9, but it still shows warty on my /etc/fstab07:22
pixil9you might wanna run a partition manager and erase the swap and shit07:22
pixil9then remove it07:22
pixil9pretty easy to use pico07:22
ruggygigglesworth, how new user friendly is it?07:22
guruffrm -rf /media/WHERE_WARTY_IS_MOUNTED; be warn though rm -rf is refursive force remove, will go down the tree deleting everyting without asking07:22
nickrudmjc, try doing it with aptitude. Lots of hand work getting the dependencies right, but doable :)07:22
geneo93sperm:  try totem-gstreamer07:22
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nickrudfaster to reinstall, though07:22
pixil9Why would you manually remove every file when you can create a new filesystem with mke2fs lol.07:22
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spermplayer plays it07:23
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goosperm: seen the egg lately? :)07:23
geargolemI did that pixil907:23
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thundrcleezeI restarted synaptic, but now it doesn't let me apply anything, how do I get what it was applying back?07:23
geargolemit still shows Warty on startup on my 2nd hd pixil907:24
gigglesworthWell, I've heard it much more user friendly. I just started using it myself, but the Gnome interface is familiar & nice & clean. There aren't too many apps, which is nice.07:24
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pixil9geargolem, /boot/grub/menu.lst07:24
geneo93thundrcleeze:  try sudo apt-get -f install07:24
palitronecesito ayuda07:25
gigglesworthAnd it's the same as Debian on the back end, which means it has many of the same powerful tools.07:25
thundrcleezethanks, geneo93, will do.07:25
guruffgeargolem; what loader do you have grub? probably grub; edit /boot/grub/menu.lst07:25
spermmplayer works07:25
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spermill brb.07:25
nickrudgeneo93, you been studying :)07:25
markAnyone have hanging on booting with enterprising volume management system07:25
palitroquiero instalar php4, pero la lista de paquetes muestra php4-cgi y php4-dev, cual debo instalar?07:25
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geargolemok, guruff.  I'm editing it now07:25
geneo93nickrud:  no i know more than most07:25
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nickrudyou've been running ubuntu for a while then07:26
geneo93nickrud:  also used apt in mandrake07:26
gigglesworthAnd also, you can ask questions in the #ubuntu channel without getting yelled at.07:26
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nickrudah, does it work the same?  (uprmi or whatever it was is the last mandrake thingy I used)07:27
nickrudurpmi :)07:27
ruggygigglesworth, i likely freindly channels07:27
ruggyhuh?07:27
gigglesworthMe too. I ditched IRC years ago because of some snotheads, but I'm starting to use it agian.07:27
geneo93nickrud:  well apt seems to bloat disk space wether you clean or not07:27
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geneo93nickrud:  in mandrake that is07:28
pixil9Should my tvtuner and tvtime be using 80% cpu while i watch tv?07:28
nickrudgeneo93, apt-get install debfoster. It kills the bloat that ails ye07:28
pixil9that's a little crazy.07:28
geneo93ahh dont work for mandrake07:28
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gigglesworthAnyone here try Ubuntu on Xbox?07:29
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markubuntu on xbox?07:29
nickrudI'm probably going back to aptitude. I like synaptic, but aptitude gives me automatic package removal.07:29
marki can see that as possible07:29
markbut gnome is kinda big for it07:29
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LordMortiscan anyone here give me a brief review of how the ubuntu sound system works? (i.e. does it use OSS, ALSA-OSS, ALSA, and/or which sound daemon does it use)07:30
GigglesworthLike the xbox-linux project... there's a Debian side project, a Fedora side project.07:30
markremember only 64 megs of ram07:30
geneo93nickrud:  i like to keep things here for i'm on dun07:30
MyNameIsChrisHello everyone, how does Warty like kernels built from unpatched/standard kernel sources?07:30
markgentoox is the way to go07:30
nickrudbeen there :)07:30
GigglesworthIt's a $100 computer. Running Linux on Xbox is so obscene it's cool.07:30
markor that debian one, but I havent tried that one07:30
Gigglesworth64 megs of Ram... might be good enough for a little webserver or a Samba server.07:30
markYeah, 100$, build USB adaptors, and a vga adaptor for a monitor07:31
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markwould make a alright PC07:31
geneo93Gigglesworth:  i would think dsl would be better for xbox07:31
markthere is dsl for xbox07:31
markxdsl07:31
GigglesworthDSL? Like my internet connection here?07:32
markit's pretty new, I think its the fastest one out07:32
geneo93well then thats what i would use07:32
markdamn small linux07:32
GigglesworthCool, thanks for hte hint.07:32
markhe np07:32
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markhave you tried gentoox or xdsl, Gigglesworth?07:33
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GigglesworthDSL For Xbox is at http://www.xbins.org/nfo.php?file=xboxnfo1210.nfo if anyone cares.07:33
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GigglesworthNo, I haven't tried them yet. Still don't have an xbox... still got a couple other projects lined up.07:33
marki heard it could run win98 at an alright speed07:33
Smevenwhat is a good setiathome gui?07:33
YuffsterHey, is there anyone who knows lots about Dells and Ubuntu and wireless out there? >_>;07:33
GigglesworthBut I'm looking for a cheap webserver for my personal stuf.f07:33
markwebserver works great07:34
markon xboc07:34
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markxbox*07:34
marki would suggest gentoox pro07:34
gooI guess my xbox will keep it's original OS, I actually use it to play games on (and music and movies with xbmc)07:34
markthen emerge what you want07:34
Yuffster:\07:34
GigglesworthBah, games? Music? You scoundrel :)07:35
markxbmc is great...07:35
Gigglesworthbut you can get a second one and have  a cheap webserver!07:35
markbest xbox project IMO07:35
GigglesworthCool, I'll check it out.07:35
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markthe idea of watching downloaded anime on a tv without having to burn dvds is great07:35
thundrcleeze_Is this bad?-- Setting up ksplash (3.4.0-0ubuntu18) ...07:35
thundrcleeze_** (process:13998): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed07:35
markmodding is easy07:35
marktakes me 5 min to softmod07:36
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GigglesworthYeah, and that's another project down the line. A cheap media box. I guess you can use a Svidio-to-usb connector to grab broadcasts off of the air.07:36
nickrudthundrcleeze, that's nothing critcal, just an error while trying to set up menus07:36
gooGigglesworth: hey, I have a cheap webserver! My father gave me an AMD Athlon 2700+ boxen with some RAM and disk as a gift since I helped him so much with his Debian Sid box! :)07:37
thundrcleeze_Okay, thanks, nickrud07:37
Jeezisis 73 degrees c too hot for a laptop to be running at?07:37
GigglesworthWell, that's better then a 733Mhz/74Mb server!07:37
nickrudseen it a lot :)07:37
transgressno07:37
markhaha07:37
markno 64 megs07:37
markceleron07:38
MyNameIsChrisJeezis, Can you even put it on your lap. WIthout ironing your pants?07:38
goono wonder it's so cheap.07:38
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markI don't think xbox2 is going to be great...07:39
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GigglesworthI bet they specifically added some anti-modding technolgoy in xbox207:39
srshi, the ncurses applications are not being rendered correctly in Hoary installed on an i58607:39
srsany solutions for that/07:40
geargolemcould I get a private chat with someone that can help me with some questions07:40
markthat, and there is going to be differnent versions and possible no harddrive07:40
dr_willisGigglesworth,  like covering the whole motherboard with epoxy :P07:40
srsgeargolem: go ahead ask your questions here itself07:40
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markwhich means I would have to blow more cash on memory cards07:40
dr_willisxbox is the one game system i Dont have...07:40
dr_willisjust havent seen many games for it  i really want.07:41
geargolemI just mke2fs on my 2nd hd.  I would like to use the 2nd hd for storage for Hoary on my 1st hd07:41
markwell, the only use, if not for live, is nothing07:41
markexcept modding07:41
geneo93xbox was good but games suck07:41
markthen it has more features07:41
GigglesworthIs kubuntu exactly the same as Ubuntu, except it has KDE instead of Gnome? Any other major differences?07:41
dr_willisim not about to pay MS to play online games. :P07:41
markit still has some good games07:42
dr_willisGigglesworth,  about the same.07:42
marki'm playing Jade Empire atm07:42
dr_willisGigglesworth,  if you want both. install the latest ubuntu, and you can apt-get the kubuntu stuff.07:42
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GigglesworthGeargolem: I think you just mgith need to do 'mkdir /mnt/secondharddrive', and then 'mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/secondharddrive'07:42
Gigglesworthreplace 'secondharddrive' with a name that makes sense to you.07:43
dr_willis /stuff :P07:43
mark Geargolem: then once that works, add a fstab entry07:43
dr_willis /porn :P07:43
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markGeargolem: then it will mount on boot07:43
GigglesworthAnd it may not be /dev/hdb1 , which is the first partition (1) on the second hard drive (b)07:43
srsgeargolem: why not partition the 2nd hard disk as /something and keep07:43
geargolemI have Hoary on first, what could I put on 2nd?07:44
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thundrcleeze_hoary storage? :)07:44
cyphasegeargolem: hoary07:44
cyphaselol07:44
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srscyphase: don't kid07:44
markHey, I have a question involving 2 dvd drives. If I have one drive on the master ide cable , and another on the slave ide cable, can I read both at the same time?07:45
goo..it's more understandable for wacky programmers lke me07:45
geneo93geargolem:  /home07:45
GigglesworthAny thing that considers '0' as 'the first thing' drives me crazy.07:45
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cyphaselol, my mistake. i thought he meant other computer07:45
pixil9geargolem: why are you dcc chatting me07:45
GigglesworthMark: You can, but it will be slower.07:45
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geargolemok geneo93.  mount /dev/hdb1 /home?07:45
GigglesworthAll operations will operate at the slower speed of the two drives.07:45
goomark: yes. You can read them both at the same time (experienced time) )no matter what cable you connect them to07:45
geargolempixil9 had some questions07:45
markSlower, I each drive has it's own ide cable to motherboard?07:46
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pixil9o07:46
pixil9what's the problem07:46
geneo93yes07:46
GigglesworthOh, I misread your question.07:46
geargolemthnx07:46
thundrcleeze_geargolem, you could put the beta version of breezy when it comes out on it, if you're looking for an os.07:46
marksorry, I can never get what im tring to say...07:47
cyphasehas anyone here set up mod_python for apache? i've tried playing with the config files, but it's not processing the code. it just sends me the plain python code as a download07:47
GigglesworthIf you have two drives on a single IDE channel, both devices operate at the speed of the slower device.07:47
pixil9cyphase: did you install a libapache-mod?07:47
cyphasepixil9: yes, and the server signature confrims it07:47
GigglesworthBut it sounds like you have two IDE cables, two devices, and each device is plugged into a different channel.07:47
cyphaseconfirm*07:47
markThat's what I currently have set up...07:47
goocyphase: nope. Just pyapache. But it should say something about AddType in the documentation or the INSTALL file I guess07:47
cyphaseyea, im about to try that now07:48
cyphaselemme see..07:48
GigglesworthYou can read and write to both devices at the same time. I don't think the whole 'master/slave' thing applies only when you have two devices per channel.07:48
Gigglesworthcorrection, 'I *do* think'07:48
kakaltowhere are OOo's icons stored?07:49
markGigglesworth: So, do you think I would be able to burn say a dvd in one drive and read the other if they have seperate cables... and as /dev/hda and /dev/hdc07:49
pixil9pyapache?07:49
SQL_Samis swat installed on ubuntu?07:49
pixil9SQL_Sam, no. apt-get install swatr07:49
pixil9SQL_Sam, no. apt-get install swat07:49
gookakalto: dpkg -L openoffice.org | grep icons07:49
SQL_Samthanks07:50
geneo93Gigglesworth:  when you have 2 devices on same channel it reduces speed by half07:50
srswhat is swat?07:50
GigglesworthIf they are on different IDE channels, yes. You can do it when they are on the same channel, it's just slower.07:50
pixil9samba web config on port 90107:50
markbut on seperate channels, is there any speed lost?07:50
kakaltogoo, thanks :D07:50
SQL_Samcouldnt find package swat?07:50
goonp :)07:50
markalright, thank you...07:50
srsX.org is faster! :>07:50
dazed_SQL_Sam: its there i got it today07:51
pixil9cyphase: so you installed libapache-mod-python libapache-modpython2.3 & 2.407:51
pixil9?\07:51
markI should try it out then07:51
geneo93mark if you dont have any other devices on them like cdrom or dvd07:51
SQL_Sammatt@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install swat07:51
SQL_SamReading package lists... Done07:51
SQL_SamBuilding dependency tree... Done07:51
SQL_SamE: Couldn't find package swat07:51
SQL_Sam??07:51
cyphasepixil9: yes07:51
cyphasepixil9: 2.407:51
pixil9Did u restart apache lol07:51
srsSQL_Sam: did you add any mirror to sources.list?07:51
markgeneo93: I only have two dvd drives...07:51
dazed_SQL_Sam: 'apt-cache search swat07:51
cyphasepixil9: yea07:51
pixil9SQL_Sam, ya you need another source07:51
dazed_'07:51
cyphasepixil9: after evert change07:51
cyphasepixil9: every*07:52
srsSQL_Sam: are you trying soon after a fresh installation07:52
srs?07:52
gooOne thing I miss in Debian-based distros is the ability to see wich repo a package will be installed from07:52
gooOr is that possible in some way?07:52
srsgoo: what do you mean by repo?07:52
nickrudgoo, apt-cache show will have the repository07:52
SQL_Sami've installed samba07:52
srsgoo: oh! repository07:52
SQL_Samtried a restart and get a failure07:53
goosrs: yeah :)07:53
pixil9I'm showin it in universe07:53
goonickrud: ah... goodie! Thanks :)07:53
srsgoo: apt-cache show package_name07:53
cyphasepixil9: i've also added the directives at http://www.modpython.org/live/current/doc-html/inst-testing.html07:53
SQL_Samthen i did testparm07:53
SQL_Samgot the following...07:53
SQL_Sammatt@ubuntu:~$ sudo testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf07:53
SQL_SamLoad smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf07:53
SQL_SamProcessing section "[homes] "07:53
SQL_SamProcessing section "[printers] "07:53
SQL_SamProcessing section "[print$] "07:53
SQL_Samparams.c:Section() - Empty section name in configuration file.07:53
SQL_Samparams.c:pm_process() - Failed.  Error returned from params.c:parse().07:53
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nickrudgoo, there's also dpkg-gctrl, if you're adventurous (I'm not :)07:54
srsSQL_Sam: `what does apt-cache show swat' say?07:54
kkathmanhowdy all :)07:54
SQL_Samsamba - a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix07:54
pixil9Maybe sway is in backports07:54
pixil9swat*07:54
pixil9deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted07:55
pixil9deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted07:55
SQL_Sammatt@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache show swat07:55
SQL_SamW: Unable to locate package swat07:55
SQL_SamE: No packages found07:55
goonickrud: well, it shows the section and the filename.. what if two repo(sitorie)s has the same package? How do i know wich one is used?07:55
pixil9try those.07:55
dazed_pixil9: nope07:55
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dazed_i dont use backports07:55
dazed_and i got it07:55
pixil9Well synaptic shows it in universe07:55
pixil9so i dunno07:55
JaGWiRE``mm07:55
srsgoo: the latest release of the two will be installed07:55
kkathmantypically a package wont  be in two repos07:55
srsgoo: the latest release of the two will be installed07:56
dazed_SQL_Sam: u sure ur repos are enbaled?07:56
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SQL_Samnot sure07:56
kkathmanunless you are using non-ubuntu repos07:56
JaGWiRE``is there anyway to make ubuntu or any linux distro let me make functions for 2 extra buttons on my notebook (Named p1 and p2), in windows they can change the amount of sound and video brightness.07:56
nickrudapt-cache policy (and it shows the repositories better :)07:56
JaGWiRE``Anything like that in nix?07:56
srsbye all07:56
dazed_SQL_Sam: goto synaptic and check your repos07:56
geargolemi did $sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /home then edited /etc/fstab to /dev/hdb1/homeext3defaults0007:56
nickrudapt-cache policy mplayer07:57
geargolemis that correct?07:57
SQL_Samk07:57
nickrudhey this isn't my terminal :_07:57
pixil9geargolem, looks good to me.. you can always unmount it and type mount -a07:57
pixil9geargolem, see if it works.07:57
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srsbtw... if your ncurses display has conked up... possible solution may be got through by changing the locale to en_US07:57
pixil9geargolem, -a reloads /etc/fstab without rebooting.07:57
goonickrud: ahhhh... brilliant! Thanks a lot for saving me the trouble of reading those tiresome man pages ;-D07:57
GigglesworthHrm... Georgolem, is there already a /home directory?07:58
nickrudI've been playing with apt-cache for a long time, and thanks for tickling that memory cell :)07:58
GigglesworthIf you mount a new directory /home on top of an existing direcotry /home , the originial directory will disappear (but it's still there)07:58
goo:)07:58
geargolemit seems to work, pixil907:59
JaGWiRE``is there anyway to make ubuntu or any linux distro let me make functions for 2 extra buttons on my notebook (Named p1 and p2), in windows they can change the amount of sound and video brightness. I am curious if is possible to assign these 2 extra buttons features. Also, is there anyway to easily adjust laptop screen lcd brightness and sound level in ubuntu?07:59
dazed_find it SQL_Sam07:59
dazed_?07:59
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kkathmanwe heard you the first time JaGWiRE``  you might try later with someone else that might know07:59
geargolemhow do I change grub that my 2nd hd is mounted on /home of 1st and not warty?07:59
JaGWiRE``No, I just wanted to add some info.08:00
dazed_JaGWiRE``: goto ur control center and enter into your key binder08:00
JaGWiRE``Didn't mean to repeat pruposely.08:00
JaGWiRE``:)08:00
JaGWiRE``K dazed, i'll look aorund later when I get done with installing ubuntu.08:00
JaGWiRE``Ubuntu = full support for 2100 out of the box, right?08:00
SQL_Samno08:00
dazed_oh ok08:00
dazed_well its definately possible08:00
dazed_every button can be made to do something08:00
SQL_Samdid a search and found nothing for swat08:00
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dazed_did u check ur repos08:00
dazed_make sure they are all enabled08:00
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JaGWiRE``repos?08:00
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SQL_Samrepository08:01
dazednot you JaGWiRE``08:01
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gooI wish the Zend people would make .debs (and other formats) from Zend studio instead of that java installer-thingy..08:02
dazeddid u check SQL_Sam cuz swat is DEFINATELY in univers08:02
dazede08:02
kkathmangoo  I had no problem installing on my system08:02
SQL_Sami dont know if i'm looking in the right place08:02
kkathmangoo but I agree with you...would be much better :)08:02
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gookkathman: neither had I, but I also still believes in Santa Claus at the age of 30 ;)08:02
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dazedSQL_Sam: you in synaptic?08:03
kkathmangoo thats ok...I do too :)08:03
kkathmangoo and im significantly past 3008:03
dazedSQL_Sam: once in synaptic goto 'Settings' tab click 'Repositories' and check the boxes on all the un checked boxes08:03
gooNext time I see them I have to nag about it, last time I just nagged for emacs keybinding support and something as good as ediff-mode :)08:03
SQL_Samyes08:04
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dazedSQL_Sam: they all checked (double check Universe repo)08:04
menghi08:04
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dazedthen click reload on synaptic08:04
gookkathman: ah, I was being a bit ashamed for beliving in Santa, but now I'll go on beliving till the day I die, thanks to your support :)08:05
dazedthen search for swat08:05
dazedand see if it comes up08:05
menghow to enable the fglrx opengl drivers08:05
kkathmangoo  please do...makes things much brighter in your life :)08:05
mengand i have seen the wiki08:05
nickrudI'll go along with that, as long as he doesn't look like tim allen.08:05
pixil9ya santa is real08:06
GigglesworthGoo: Santa is alive and well. He's the spirit of christmas :)08:06
pixil9at the shopping mall.08:06
goonickrud: or Billie-bob thornton (or what's his name)08:06
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nickrudgimmie timmmmy!!!08:06
GigglesworthBut beware the Easter Buggy08:06
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dazedwhich it SHOULD with 3 other name related packages none of which u need08:07
gooGigglesworth: there ya go! Some 8 months till Zend studio comes in Pretty Packaging then.08:07
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GigglesworthWell, it's winter in the sourthern hemisphere, so maybe it's Christmas too!08:07
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mengi need help for my opengl renderer08:08
mengit still says MESA, though i installed the fglrx drivers already08:08
GigglesworthOk: Quick, Dumb irc question. How to I supress all these 'joe has joined #ubuntu', 'jane has left #ubuntu' messages. Is it a client-specific option?08:08
GigglesworthI can't find the option... (using x-chat)08:09
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pixil9pretty much everything comes in raw irc mode then the client decodes what it wants.08:10
tvelocity[away] Gigglesworth, right click on the #ubuntu tab -> # ubuntu -> show join/part messages08:10
pixil9such as typing /quote PRIVMSG #ubuntu :hi you suck08:10
pixil9would be raw08:10
allorderhi08:10
GigglesworthThank you! Gettin' tired of the extra stuff.08:11
nickrudpixil9, (being an irc newbie too) what would that look like on my client?08:11
pixil9huh08:11
SQL_Samis there suppossed to be a package called universe?08:11
nickrudok, I'll go read.08:11
pixil9Does deborphan work properly with ubuntu?08:11
allorderis it normal that apt-get didnt find anything to upgrade since a week ?08:11
pixil9nickrud: what do u mean08:11
crimsunpixil9: yes, it does.08:12
pixil9nickrud: i was just saying all irc shit is sent in raw.. and your client decodes it.. like mirc or xchat08:12
pixil9or epic08:12
pixil9etc08:12
crimsunallorder: for Hoary, yes. Hoary's frozen and will receive only security updates.08:12
nickrudpixil9, I don't know enough about irc to really know what I mean :)08:12
pixil9crimsun: k.08:12
allordercrimsun: ok, thx08:12
nickrudbut what would happen If I sent that exact string?08:12
Gigglesworthok, so it is all client-side options.08:12
pixil9deborphan | xargs apt-get -y remove --purge <<-- best command08:12
nickrudbut I can also go read :)08:12
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pixil9nickrud: it'd send a msg to the channel08:13
Tomcat_pixil9: That only removes the orphaned libs though. :)08:13
Gigglesworthnickrud: Basically, all the messages & crap are sent to your client. It's up to your client to give you options to remove the extra crud.08:13
SQL_Sami see no package named swat08:13
nickrudah, so when I hit enter, that's what sent?08:13
pixil9Tomcat_, ya.. the rest you gotta do manually right?08:13
GigglesworthI couldn't find the option to remove the crud in Chatzilla...08:13
nickrudclient formats, & it appears as a regular line08:14
nickrudI'll go read08:14
Tomcat_pixil9: Well the same line with deborphan -a would be kinda "interesting" :D08:14
tvelocity[away] Gigglesworth, chatzilla is a _very_ basic client08:14
pixil9Tomcat_, I think i'll stay with the manual removal :P08:15
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pixil9what the hell do i need python for anyway08:15
GigglesworthYeah... it's good enough for my purposes mostly. Except I can't turn off the join/leave messages08:15
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ivoksola08:16
GigglesworthYeah Pixil, you can do it all with PERL!08:16
pixil9al lots of stuff08:16
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ivoksehlo ubuntu08:16
pixil9i didn't know gnome used to much shit08:16
pixil9I'm a freebsd server freak w/ windows xp.. so a full debian + ubuntu freak .. x is new to me :P08:16
pixil9to a*08:16
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ivoksi heard god's name: debian08:17
GigglesworthDebian? That's not god, it's Devilian!08:18
nickrudno, he's now known as Overfiend :)08:18
ivoksit's a God, with capital G08:18
ivoksthere wouldn't be ubuntu if there wasn't debian08:19
ivoksso.. that makes Debian... what? A God :)08:19
ivoksor, better... The God08:19
ivoks:)08:19
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GigglesworthAdam to eve.08:20
\shivoks: godfather08:20
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\shand ubuntu is godson08:20
mengmore like debian's chil08:20
ivoksnope... God08:20
mengchild08:20
ivoksGod creates life08:20
ivoks:)08:20
mengor according to darwin, evolution08:21
GigglesworthDebian is like the old, conservative father who's done it all, and just wants a nice stable environment. Ubuntu is the young punk kid who wants to try new things.08:21
tgaubuntu is based on darwin?08:21
\shwhat? darwin is responsible for this gnome mail client ,-)08:21
ivoksLOL08:21
ivokstga no... ubuntu is based on Debian Linux08:21
tgaI thought Darwin was an OS X thing08:22
Agrajaguh, Charles Darwin was practically the father of evolutionary theory08:22
ivokstga no, Darwin is OS08:22
GigglesworthThe last time I seriously looked at Debian was 6 years ago. They were saying the same things, but all the nice friendly programs didn't really exist yet (Gnome 0.99!). it's nice to see Ubuntu picking up the spirit.08:22
Agrajagwhat do they teach you kids these days08:23
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ivokswich Apple used for his MacOSX08:23
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mengbut in the end alot of the other OSes are unix based08:23
karljpdo I have to use initrd if I want to make my own kernel?08:23
mengexcept for MS windows08:23
GigglesworthWell, DOS was inspired by Unix, and DOS begat Windows.08:23
Smevenkarljp: only to load modules on boot08:24
Agrajaghaha no it wasn't08:24
GigglesworthSure it was! :)08:24
Agrajagit was based on CP/M08:24
ivoksGigglesworth ? :)08:24
karljpso as long as I change the CONFIG_IDE stuff to y instead of m, from the default config that comes with the stock hoary 2.6.10 kernel08:24
GigglesworthOk... but some of the commands are/were the same!08:24
karljpI should be fine to make my kernel with make-kpkg and no --initrd flag?08:24
ivoksjesus...08:25
Smevenyou called my name? ;)08:25
ivoksand how would u "recommand" move command?08:25
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dhonnyou can use initrd with mkinitrd08:26
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revelateranyone know of a good distro for a 25khz 4mb ram computer08:26
GigglesworthWell, I don't know about 'move', but dos has 'dir |more'. Which probably stems from CP/M.08:26
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GigglesworthMy knowledge of OS's fails before 1990...08:26
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GigglesworthRevelater: Check out Minix (seriously)08:26
dhonni learned computers on a windows3.1 desktopmanager on top of dos 6.208:27
GigglesworthCheck out this thread from my usergroup: http://www.weak.org/pipermail/buug/2005-April/002712.html ... someone asked a similar question just last week.08:27
pixil9i started with dos in 88 or 89 with an XT turbo boost from 2MHz to 4MHz08:27
Gigglesworthbah! I had Windows 3.0! Beat that!08:27
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dhonncant dude08:27
pixil9my best friend had a dual floppy machine.. no hd haha08:28
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GigglesworthOh right, I had an Apple IIe when I was a kid. I remember playing some pacman ripoff over and over again.08:28
dhonni have a dual cd machine for a live cd and an mp3 cd08:28
dhonnno hd08:28
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crimsunI'm running off a livecd atm, too08:29
Gigglesworthand loading the good animated menu system onto all of my floppy disks. It had text at the bottom which scrolled all the commands like [D] ir, [L] oad, [R] un.08:29
geneo93crimsun:  is the mandriva move08:29
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SkifHas anybody gotten mythtv running on ubuntu?08:30
GigglesworthThis liveCD is pretty good. I'm running it off of vmware. It's plenty fast... (actually it's an .iso running on a CDDrive emulator).08:30
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geneo93s/the/that08:30
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crimsungeneo93: no, at work I use the ubuntu 5.04 livecd; here at home I use the kubuntu 5.04 livecd08:31
geneo93oh crimsun you like kde i take it08:31
karljpwhat's the motivation for running a livecd as your normal way of operation?08:32
ivoksnone08:32
crimsungeneo93: well I'm fairly pragmatic08:32
crimsungeneo93: don't necessarily like one more than another08:32
geneo93crimsun:  but kde works better for me08:33
ReleaseXwhen i do an apt-get update i get a lot of failed to fetch ... 500 internal server error, some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead08:33
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crimsungeneo93: :)08:33
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geneo91sorry got disconnected08:34
geargolemsuccessfully mounted 2 HD at /mnt/hd2  :P08:34
GigglesworthGeargolem: Is that what you wanted?08:35
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geargolemit will work.  but my grub still says warty on boot08:35
neighborleeanyone else getting public key errors with marilatt ?08:35
ivoksimport keys08:35
neighborleeW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90708:35
geneo91geargolem:  uname -a08:36
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revelaterhow do i record iso's to a cd?08:36
ivoksneighborlee ubuntuguide.org08:36
crimsunrevelater: try k3b or graveman08:36
ivoksgnomerecord08:36
ivoksgnomeburner08:36
ivoksfuck08:36
ivoksgnomebaker :)08:36
neighborlee^08:36
geargolemuname -a ....what?08:36
neighborleegives version of current running kernel08:37
ivoksneighborlee gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B90708:37
geargolemuname -a /dev/hdb1?08:37
geneo91that will give you release date08:37
ivoksneighborlee gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -08:37
ivoksneighborlee sudo apt-get update08:37
geneo91Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-686-smp #1 SMP Tue Apr 5 12:41:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux08:37
neighborlee k thx08:37
geargolemwhat do I need that for?08:38
ReleaseXwhen i do an apt-get update i get a lot of failed to fetch ... 500 internal server error, some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead08:38
geneo91you say grub still says warty maybe your running warty08:38
ivoksu have errors in /etc/apt/sources.list08:38
bignose-orkkarljp: one I can think of: your workstation is whatever computer you find yourself at08:39
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Tomcat_ReleaseX: Do you use the Ubuntuforums Repo?08:39
geargolemhoary on hd1         warty on hd2   at grub08:39
bignose-orkeep.08:39
ivoksgeneo91 wouldn't it be easier to just shange that line in /boot/grub/menu.lst?08:39
geneo91yup08:39
ivokss/shange/change08:39
ivoksat least, he will be quiet :)08:39
geargolemchange the line in /boot/grub/menu.lst?08:40
ReleaseXtomcat_: ye08:40
ReleaseXtomcat_: yes08:40
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ivoksgeargolem yes08:40
carloshello08:40
ivoksgrub isn't AI, he just tells u what u told him before08:40
Tomcat_ReleaseX: I think they have a problem with their server... I got that too today. Didn't change my sources.list though.08:40
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carlosi am having a little bit of an issue with my keyboard under linux08:41
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ReleaseXtomcat_: alright, thanks08:41
ivokscarlos all croats do too :)08:41
carlosokay08:41
ivokswhat's urs?08:41
geargolemivoks, bear with me.   edit hd2 titles?  to what?08:41
Tomcat_ReleaseX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28532&highlight=500+internal+server+error08:41
ivoksgeargolem open /boot/grub/menu.lst08:42
carloswell my issue has something to do with the keyboard buffer perhaps even the touchpaad driver08:42
geargolemok, did ivoks08:42
ivokssearch for Warthy and change it to CptCook08:42
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geargolemCptCook?  what the hell is that?08:42
stevenjcan someone tell me how to change the gnome icons in the panel tray (i.e., volume icon)  - thanks08:42
ivoksok, u can place PeterPan08:42
carlosbassically a key will get stuck for no good reason at random intervals and it's also a key at random08:43
carlosby a key i mean any key08:43
ivokscarlos USB keyboard?08:43
geargolemthis?08:43
geargolemtitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-68608:43
geargolemroot(hd0,0)08:43
geargolemkernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-686 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash08:43
geargoleminitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-68608:43
geargolemsavedefault08:43
geargolemboot08:43
carlosno ivoks its the keyboard that comes with my laptop08:44
geargolemmeant this;08:44
geargolem# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for an existing08:44
geargolem# linux installation on /dev/hdb1.08:44
geargolemtitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.8.1-5-386 (on /dev/hdb1)08:44
geargolemroot(hd1,0)08:44
geargolemkernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1-5-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash08:44
geargoleminitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.8.1-5-38608:44
geargolemsavedefault08:44
ivokscarlos which lap?08:44
geargolemboot08:44
geneo91nite all08:44
ivoksgeargolem how many discs u have?08:44
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geargolem2 ivoks08:44
ivoksand u have two instalations of ubuntu08:44
carlosivoks it's a toshiba satellite m35 s32008:45
ReleaseXtomcat_: that's the one, thanks for the hint08:45
Gigglesworthnite geoeo08:45
geargolemivoks, installed hoary over winme, had warty on 2nd08:45
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ivoksgeargolem and what's ur problem then?08:46
ivokscarlos hm... have no clue... is that happening in X or in console?08:46
geargolemi did mke3fs on 2nd hd, but grub still says warty on 2nd hd on boot08:46
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ivoksgeargolem just erase in that menu.lst second part08:46
DaemonDazzgeargolem: grub doesn't look at the disks at boot time08:46
geargolemerase all warty stuff08:47
ivoksgeargolem that with hd(1,0)08:47
carlosthivoks this error happens in X only08:47
carlosand it occurs randomly08:47
geargolemhdb1 ivoks08:47
carlosi had a similar problem in windows08:47
ivokscarlos then it's obvius a hardware error08:47
carlosind i solved it by installing a different version of the synaptics  ouchpad driver08:48
ivokscarlos ah... synaptic touchpad?!08:48
stevenjor does anyone know how to hide to icons in the gnome panel -- like the ugly gdesklets icon?08:48
carlosyes ivoks08:48
mebaran151what is the new development branch08:48
ivokscarlos there is synaptic driver too for linux08:48
ivokscarlos do u use it?08:48
carlosi have the synaptcs driver that came with the hoary cd ivoks08:49
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carlosi am not sure that i am using it though08:49
ivokscarlos lsmod08:50
ivoksand see if there is synaptic anyehere08:50
ivokswhere08:50
geargolemhdb1 is mke3fs, then mounted on /mnt/2hd  but still shows warty on grub on boot08:50
ivokscarlos u should change ur xorg.conf too08:51
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ivoksgeargolem jesus... send me ur menu.lst over dcc08:51
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mebaran151what is the new development branch08:52
mebaran151all my software is broken at the freeze08:52
mebaran151xpdf and xmms08:52
mebaran151both segfault08:52
mebaran151and neither have successful source compiles08:52
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carlosyes ivoks i can confirm you that the driver is installed08:52
ivoks2jesus man...08:52
carlosbut08:52
ivoks2dcc, not chat08:52
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crimsunmebaran151: Breezy is the development branch08:52
ivokscarlos ok, that's ok... check out ur xorg.conf08:53
crimsunmebaran151: I can't really do much for xmms (since it's in main), but you could try beep-media-player08:53
carlosokay, let me fire up a gedit with that08:53
crimsunI uploaded a new snapshot two days ago08:53
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ivoksgeargolem ?08:54
ivoksjesus...08:54
ivokshe pastes me whole menu.lst to private08:54
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ivokswith comments08:54
ivoks:)08:54
ivoksomg08:54
carlosokay ivoks i have my xorg.conf up08:54
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ircbot_anyone use jabber?08:55
ivokswait a minute untill geargolem cools08:55
azurothsure08:55
geargolemyes?08:55
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geargolemno, geargolem08:55
ircbot_it seems my jabber connection is acting goofy and i'm trying to figure out why08:55
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ivoksgeargolem u know what DCC is?08:56
azurothmaybe you can't figure out why because your inferior non-human brain. hah!08:56
carlosokay ivoks i do havvvvvvvvvvve <---(see what i mean?) the synaptics driver installed08:56
geargolemno08:56
ivokscarlos sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-synaptics08:56
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carlosokay08:56
ivoksand tpconfig08:57
carlosivoks the driver is already in place in my system08:58
IIIEarsHello! - My screen and net configurations can be backed up?08:58
crimsunIIIEars: yes. Back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/network/interfaces08:58
IIIEarsWhat files are saved how do i do that?08:58
ivokscarlos in ur xorg.conf08:58
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IIIEarsGreat! - THank You08:58
mebaran151do we have a new development branch yet08:59
ivokscarlos u have section Module08:59
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crimsunmebaran151: see above.08:59
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mebaran151sorry crimsun08:59
mebaran151been gone08:59
ivokscarlos did u find?08:59
carlosyes ivoks i do have a section Module08:59
karljpcan anyone help me set up gnome volumen manager to work with my flash card reader?08:59
mebaran151crimsun, beep media player works08:59
mebaran151that is what I have been using08:59
karljpif I mount it manually to /media/cf08:59
crimsunmebaran151: good.08:59
ivokscarlos add there Load "synaptics"08:59
karljpit pops up nicely on my desktop, and I can right click to unmount it.08:59
pixil9karljp: have you tried mounting /dev/sda109:00
karljpbut I can't work out how automatically mount it when I stick it in.09:00
pixil9i dunno my camera is on sda109:00
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carlosokay ivoks i have written that on the conf file09:00
ivokscarlos maybe better... read /usr/share/doc/xorg-driver-synaptics/README.Debian09:00
karljpyeah, I can manually mount it.09:00
karljpI just want it to get mounted when I insert it.09:00
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ivokscarlos everything u need is there so i don't have to paste it...09:00
carloswill certainly do ivoks09:00
pixil9ah i dunno09:01
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carlosdriver-synaptics/README.debian09:01
pixil9what if the card is in then you connect the usb09:01
IIIEarsautomatic mounting of stuf is in init.rd? (yes - lol - i am new.)09:01
dazedim bored fa sho09:02
pixil9IIIEars, no.09:02
crimsunIIIEars: handled by hotplug, which is a userspace util that pulls information from sysfs09:02
karljppixil: it's actually a kind of notnormal cardreader, so basically, if /dev/hde1 exists, then the card is in,09:02
IIIEarsah. - okay - where is it?09:02
karljpif it doesn'te exist, it's not.09:02
crimsunIIIEars: where is what? :)09:02
pixil9I was just thinking if ya had the card in.. then plugged in the usb it would automount it09:02
crimsunIIIEars: /sbin/hotplug uses scripts and configuration files in /etc/hotplug/09:03
ivokshotplug rocks, and dbus-1 too09:04
carlosty ivoks, i have a lot of info to digest here09:05
carlosprolly this will be helpful09:05
IIIEarssysfs is in which directory?09:05
IIIEars(lol - being new means ya are never too embarrased to ask the obvious question)09:05
IIIEarsgoggle is my friend - grin09:05
IIIEarsHi crimsun09:05
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crimsunIIIEars: /sys/ :)09:05
mebaran151anyone segfaulting xpdf09:05
mebaran151that annoys me09:06
kakaltowhere are the games icons stored for gnome?09:06
karljpI've got my fstab setup so that mount /media/cf correctly mounts my flash card, and puts a "1gig removable media" icon on my desktop to access it by09:06
kakaltonot /usr/share/icons09:06
IIIEarsThanks - 'prolly not the last obvious question. (sheepish grin)09:06
kakaltosomewhere else?09:06
karljpbut I'm not sure how to make that work automatically, justl ike the way cds work09:06
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crimsunkakalto: /usr/share/pixmaps for the applications, /usr/share/... otherwise09:06
kakaltothanks09:06
ivokswell, of i go...09:07
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nived[1]  21:22 nived on #ubuntu (+cnt) * type /help for help/quit09:08
ivoks?09:08
ivoksbye folks09:08
pixil9kakalto: http://gallery.gfxed.com for good png icons to put in /usr/share/pixmaps09:09
ircbot_anyone use transset?09:10
munkiircbot_ , a bit .09:10
ircbot_any good?09:10
munkinah, don't wanna use apps like that :)09:11
ircbot_?09:12
munkii like my windows when they are not transparent09:12
ircbot_oh well i like transparency09:12
munkibut yes, it works .09:12
munkican't you get it working ?09:13
ircbot_haven't installed it09:13
ircbot_was wondering if it was any good before i did09:13
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munkiyeah , :) it makes windows look transparent09:13
tgait eats up cpu cycles for nothing09:15
ircbot_that's what i was wondering09:15
tgabest thing ever when you've got no direct rendering09:15
ircbot_how heavy on the cpu it was09:15
tgaimho you don't wanna really use it09:15
tgait's only good for eye candy when talking to a Mac guy09:15
Jen20heres a silly q. how do you connect to the net? firefox doesnt launch a dialler, and there doesnt seem to be modem dialers in the internet folder or anything in the network-connect to servers09:15
ircbot_haha09:16
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ircbot_Jen20: what kind of modem is it?09:16
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Jen20ircbot_, inside the computer, connected to a phoneline09:16
tgaJen20: if it's a win modem you're SOL09:16
ircbot_Jen20: that doesn't help for shit09:16
ircbot_Jen20: lspci09:17
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tgaircbot_: at least you know it's not a cable modem :)09:17
ircbot_look for the modem09:17
ircbot_tga:  i saw an internal cable modem a couple of times09:17
dazedwhats the command to edit xorg?09:17
munkiJen20 , is it a dial-up thing ?09:17
tgaircbot_: eek :\09:17
ircbot_dazed vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:17
Jen20munki, yeah09:17
munkidazen , nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:18
tgadazed: nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:18
dazedthanks09:18
tgabad ircbot_, telling noobs to vi09:18
ircbot_haha09:18
ircbot_vi rocks09:18
ircbot_except on slackware... it acts all kinds of fucked up on slack09:18
tgayou also mispelled emacs09:18
munkiJen20 , okay. then use ppp .09:18
tgaI remember there was a dialer in gnome09:19
munkiJen20 , pppoeconf i think09:19
tgawvdial or something09:19
tgamunki: buzz, no pppoe on dialup09:19
ircbot_pppoe is for ppp over ethernet09:19
ircbot_that's not what she wants09:19
tgaediting ppp scripts is fugly too09:19
ircbot_wvdial is grand however09:19
tgaJen20: try using wvdial09:19
Jen20munki, tga, do i get to those from "run"?09:19
ircbot_oh dear09:20
tgaJen20: yeah, try launching wvdial from the "run" thing09:20
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tgaJen20: if it's not installed use synaptic to get it09:20
ircbot_there is a thingy in linux called "CLI" ... you will need to look into that09:20
tgaE: Couldn't find package cli09:20
ircbot_tga: goofy ass09:21
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munkiI've used ppp over dial-up09:21
Jen20thanks munki, tga, and cheekybot09:21
munkiand ubuntu got a pppconf .09:21
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tgamunki: ppp yes, but not pppoe09:21
munkitga , yak yak . sorry ;)09:21
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ircbot_pppoe stands for ppp over ethernet... if there is no ethernet you are not using pppoe09:21
munkiircbot_ , yak yak :) sorry to you too ;)09:22
tgapppoe is for dsl stuff09:22
ircbot_yay!09:22
ircbot_i miss my dsl09:22
tgaand for crappy tunnels :)09:22
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ircbot_my cable company pisses me off... plus if i could get rid of my cable internet i could get rid of the cable tv and that would cut out some of my larger bills09:22
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munki*rr*09:23
tgacable works fine for me, slightly better than dsl09:23
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ircbot_well i had better service with dsl, and it's the same speed here09:24
munki:) I don't got cable tv , so -why get cable internet ?09:24
ircbot_i wish i didn't have cable internet09:25
munkiI use sattelite on my television .09:25
tgaI don't do cable phone, so -why get phone internet09:25
ircbot_they don't technically offer naked cable here... like you can ask for it, but they charge you $10 extra a month on internet09:25
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ircbot_i don't watch tv09:25
munkiircbot_ oh okay.. I live in Denmark , so ..09:25
ircbot_i live in alabama, so...09:26
ircbot_anyways... going to make sandwiches09:26
munkiI am watching Disney Channel all the time ^^09:26
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ircbot_brb09:27
dazedhow come my usb disks mount read only?09:27
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stazichhey guys, does anyone know why i might have a problem using SU sometimes?? ity does not authenticate me sometimes09:27
munkidazed , what fs ?09:27
dazedwell my linux is on ext209:28
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dazedbut i dunno what the flash disk is on09:28
munkidazed , your ext2 mounts read-only ?09:28
dazedyeah09:28
dazed...09:28
munkidazed , have you tried looking in you fstab ?09:28
tgaflash disk should be vfat09:29
dazedi cant erase files off my flash disk due to my read only...(im talking about my USB thumb drive)09:29
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munkior are you mounting it manually ?09:29
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dazedno09:29
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dazedread only disk09:29
dazedit says09:29
dazedbut i dont want to mount it read only09:29
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dazedi want to erase09:29
munkiokay , then look what fstab is set to .09:30
karljpmount -t vfat /dev/yourcfcardhere /somewhere09:30
karljp_should_ come up as rw09:30
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karljp(put a sudo in front of mount)09:30
ReleaseXg'night all09:30
karljpis that not working for you?09:30
dazedkarljp: illegal option -t09:31
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tgadazed: no need to use -t, let it autodetect the fs09:32
dazedmount: /media/usbdisk is not a block device09:32
munkidazed , mount /dev/something09:32
tgadazed: the first path is to the device09:32
karljpumm, are you trying to do mount -t vfat /media/usbdisk?09:32
munki /media/usbdisk is just a point to09:33
dazedwell which one would it be in def i have hd a-d and 1, 2 and 509:33
dazeddev*09:33
karljpyeah, mount -t vfat /dev/something /media/usbdisk09:33
tgadazed: dmesg09:33
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tgadazed: look for the last part about the usb disk if you just inserted it09:33
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dazedsda09:33
dazedthat sounds right09:33
munkimount /dev/sda /somedir09:34
dazedmount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt busy09:35
dazedmount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is mounted on /media/usbdisk09:35
munkidazed , umount /media/usbdisk09:35
munkiand then09:35
munkimount /dev/sda /media/usbdisk09:35
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munkiand then.. wohooo your disk is in /media/usbdisk in rw-mode !09:36
dazedstill read only09:36
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aimazdazed, is there a switch on the device to make it read only?09:36
dazednot on this one ...thats why im confused09:36
karljphmm,09:36
detIs GCC 4.0 in ubuntu dependant upon debian sid?09:37
karljpyou could try -o rw09:37
karljpto try and force it, but I'm not confident it would  change anything I'm afraid09:37
dazedits cool ill boot my lap into windows in a minute and erase it09:37
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detI think the AMD64 architecture would benefiet a lot over gcc 3.3.5 currently being used09:37
resiak08:37 <dpkg> To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id".09:38
munkidazed , yuk !09:38
dazednow its telling me i have no permission to write09:39
dazedf'd up09:39
munkioh..09:39
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munkitried to erase it, with root user ?09:39
dazedi JUST JUST JUST wrote to it09:39
dazednow its saying i have no permission to write to it09:39
TrickyphillipsCan anyone give me the name of software that will allow me to stream audio over the internet, and to other computers on my network?09:40
karljpyou know, it seems I have that problem too.09:40
karljpbut it's never botherd me09:40
karljpI always just stick the card back in the camera and reformat there.09:40
karljpso I've never noticed.09:40
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dazedyeah09:40
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dazedwell im just trying to transfer files between to nix comps even NFS is givin me problems09:41
dazedso im all out of solutions09:41
karljpftp?09:41
dazedif i could remember my server pw...09:41
karljpwebfsd09:41
dazed?09:41
resiakdazed: See what I said.09:41
karljpwebfsd -p someport -d here09:41
karljpthen on the other machine, http://machine:someport09:41
karljpvery quick and dirty09:42
karljppretty damn handy09:42
dazedresiak: im not trying to mount with fstab..its a thumb drive its stuck in and out many time09:42
dazeds09:42
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resiakdazed: Sure, so just apply that information to your mount invocation.09:42
karljpbasically gives you apache's +indexes09:42
karljpwithout any of the apache config.09:42
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revelateris there a live cd for macs?09:43
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ircbot_revelater: i believe so let me check09:43
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revelater8 second lag!!!09:44
ircbot_http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-live-powerpc.iso09:44
ircbot_revelater: ^09:44
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PrestonUS Bank sucks and rips off their customers: moderngeek.com/usbank09:45
revelatercool thanks09:45
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ircbot_nice to know Preston09:45
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karljpthey're a bank dude.09:45
karljpmost of them do.09:45
dazedf it!09:46
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jetblack101when i drag a window in fvwm it centers over the mouse first.. does anyone know how i can set it so that it just drags w/o centering09:46
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MartinMMguten morgen09:53
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MartinMMich habe eine (vermutlich) alte kiste als frage, die aber berlebenswichtig fr mich ist09:54
kakaltowhere is audacity's icon stored?09:54
MartinMMund alle versuche, ber google fndig zu werden, landeten im aus09:54
kakaltoI tried dpkg -L audacity | grep icons but it came up with nothing09:54
kakaltoMartinMM, #ubuntu-de09:54
MartinMMoh, sorry09:55
kakalto:)09:55
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kakaltohey Kamping_Kaiser09:55
MartinMMsee ya09:55
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Kamping_Kaiserhi kakalto. hows it?09:55
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kakaltoyeh, alright09:56
orospakr__how can one get Ubuntu to authenticate against an SMB server?09:57
kakaltoI re-installed xfce, and am currently in the process of making a decent xfcemenu for it09:57
Kamping_Kaisercool09:57
orospakr__libpam-smb seems to be missing.09:57
karljpwhy doesn't sudo work well with redirection?09:57
kakaltoorospakr__, have you tried www.ubuntuguide.org ?09:57
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karljpsudo something > somewhere/that/only/root/can/writeto doesn't work09:57
kakaltoKamping_Kaiser, since I have gnome, kde & xfce installed, the xfce menu was VERY cluttered09:58
kakaltoso I'm spending a few hours to create a new one :)09:58
Kamping_Kaiser:) i havent been bothered to change mine09:58
kakaltowant a copy of mine when I'm finished? :P09:58
Kamping_Kaiser;) no, i need to learn eventualy09:59
kakaltosince it's all in one file, it's actually editable09:59
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kakaltoKamping_Kaiser, it's very easy. type "xfce4-menueditor" in a terminal09:59
Kamping_Kaisernice. i havnt even looked.09:59
kakaltothen edit away09:59
Kamping_Kaiseroh. nice09:59
Kamping_Kaiser:) thankis09:59
kakaltoit's not very good, though09:59
Kamping_Kaiser*thanks09:59
kakaltoit crashes about every hour09:59
Kamping_Kaiserer...09:59
kakaltoso save frequently :)09:59
kakaltoI'm taking the time to locate icons for all my stuff, you see10:00
Kamping_Kaiserright... :)10:00
Kamping_Kaiseryehp10:00
orospakr__kakalto, doesn't seem to be there.10:00
Kamping_Kaiserkarljp. sorry10:00
Kamping_Kaiserstill asking?10:00
kakaltoorospakr__, there's a section about SMBFS there, isn't ther?10:00
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orospakr__kakalto, yes.10:00
Kamping_Kaisertry "sudo bash" then in that type your redirection10:00
kakaltoor doesn't it cover what you want10:00
orospakr__that is not what I asked, though...10:01
orospakr__sadly not. :(10:01
kakaltooh, woops10:01
kakaltosorry, wrong person :)10:01
orospakr__PAM. :)10:01
karljpkamping, ok,10:01
karljpoh, you just mean like sudo -s10:01
karljpyeah,10:01
karljpI know tha tworks10:01
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kakaltoKamping_Kaiser, I don't suppose you'd know where audacity's icon would be stored on my system?10:02
Kamping_Kaiserer. no, fraid not10:02
kakaltoor where on the net I could find audacity's icon?10:02
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Kamping_Kaiserhavent looked10:02
karljplocate audacity?10:02
liablekakalto: most are in /usr/share/pixmaps10:02
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Kamping_Kaiserill have a look on my system.10:02
shad0w1eis the k7 kernel any better than the 386 one?10:02
Kamping_Kaiserif you have a k710:02
shad0w1ei have an athlonxp10:03
jubeido I have to install any special packages to get evdev mouse input working in games like quake?10:03
_martini can't get Wine to work properly on ubuntu10:03
_martinneed help10:03
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karljpheh, define "work properly"10:03
shad0w1eworked great by me10:03
shad0w1eit opens up mirc by me10:03
Kamping_Kaiserlol10:03
shad0w1eand winzip10:03
Kamping_Kaiserer...?10:03
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pepsihah, why would you want to use mirc or winzip in linux?10:03
_martinwhat packages do i need?10:03
shad0w1ego to wine's site10:04
karljpwhat's wrong with mirc on linux10:04
pepsii dunno10:04
karljpnot everyone likes xchat,10:04
shad0w1eand add the soures into synaptic10:04
shad0w1ehit update10:04
pepsiyeah but thats silly10:04
shad0w1ethen search and download wine10:04
shad0w1eand execute it as10:04
shad0w1ewine whatever.exe10:04
djpdoes anybody know how you go about listening to embedded .sid music with firefox? i am using ubuntu hoary. i have installed the gstreamer-sid plugin and am using mozplugger with firefox. libsidplay1-c102 is also installed. .sid files play locally, however playback of embedded .sid files does not work.10:04
_martinok is that better than the version that comes with ubuntu10:04
shad0w1eso anyway, is the k7 kernel any better for me? im running an athlonXP10:05
_martin?10:05
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Kamping_Kaisershad0w1e. yes10:05
shad0w1eKamping_Kaiser: in what way?10:05
Kamping_Kaiserits optomised for the architecture10:06
_martindoes wine work with games???10:06
shad0w1esounds good10:06
shad0w1e_martin: no. use cedega10:06
Kamping_Kaiser_martin sometimes10:06
Kamping_Kaisernot directx10:06
shad0w1ealthough i dont know how the hell to get that working..10:06
_martinok10:06
_martinis cedega free?10:06
Kamping_Kaiserno10:06
shad0w1ei foind it on google for free10:06
shad0w1eit was an rpm file10:07
_martindoes it work good?10:07
bob2that's nice, but off-topic10:07
shad0w1ei couldnt figure it out, but i didnt try it10:07
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shad0w1ei didnt try too hard*10:07
shad0w1eanyway I got the rpm, converted it to a .deb using alien, and installed it10:07
_martin_martin: saff10:07
_martinhow to whisper?10:07
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Kamping_Kaisercedega used to be called winex and was free, but now you need to pay subscription afaik10:08
_martinok work good?10:08
shad0w1ei totally found it for free and it wasnt on a crack site either10:09
shad0w1ethey said something about them being able to offer it for free, because i dont know why10:09
karljpyou are samrt10:09
Kamping_Kaisernever used cedega myself, but i have seen ppl playing counterstrike:source online10:09
karljpgood f0r j0010:09
_martinis it worth the money?10:09
_martinis it much custumization?10:09
Kamping_Kaiser_martin not if you can warez it ;) but yes10:09
jubeiis evdev input enabled by default in ubuntu?10:09
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shad0w1e!msg _martin want it?10:10
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spotterdoes anyone know what "PCI: Unable to handle 64-bit address for device 0000:02:01.0" means?10:11
spottergetting that and10:11
resiak_martin: Get cvscedega -- free and legal.10:11
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spotter"PCI: Failed to allocate mem resources #2:c021000@0 for 0000:02:01.0"10:12
djpdoes anybody know how you go about listening to embedded .sid music with firefox? i am using ubuntu hoary. i have installed the gstreamer-sid plugin and am using mozplugger with firefox. libsidplay1-c102 is also installed. .sid files play locally, however playback of embedded .sid files does not work.10:12
spotterand then the e1000 module cant load as complains of resources conflict10:12
spotterbut it works fine in xp10:12
spottervery annoying as was working fine until now. :(10:12
Kamping_Kaiserwhat sound driver should i use for wine?10:13
tgadjp: try mplayerplug-in maybe?10:13
shad0w1eis there any way to get linux to pick up on my dual display, instead of just stretching everythig and making dialog boxes split between the two screens?10:13
resiakYes.10:14
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djptga: i have checked my mozpluggerrc file and it appears to use the sidplay program to playback .sid files. maybe, i need to install that in order to get embedded .sid files to play...10:14
shad0w1eresiak: how?10:15
resiakshad0w1e: I have no idea, but I know it can be done :)10:15
shad0w1ewell thanks10:15
shad0w1ei figured so10:15
resiakshad0w1e: Sorry.10:15
Kamping_Kaiserusing X10:15
Kamping_Kaiserbut i dont know how ;)10:15
tgadjp: very likely10:16
smoI'm not sure how much xinerama differs from nvidia's twinview, but it always "just worked" here.  (for most apps.  gtk1 apps don't seem to notice)10:16
djptga: it works! :)10:16
shad0w1ebaasically, my dual display is working but when I maximize a window, it mazimizes it to stretch onto both screens. Windows on the other hand just maximzes it onto the one screen its currently on -- which is what i want10:17
shad0w1ealso my dialog boxes come up in the middle, half on each screen10:17
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smousing gnome?  I know metacity works for me, and blackbox doesn't (in that respect)10:17
kakaltowhere is kaffeine's icon stored? I looked in /usr/share/pixmaps and /usr/share/icons/default.kde/ but I can't find it10:17
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ircbot_welcome to ubuntu how can we help you10:17
shad0w1elook in /usr/share/icons10:18
kakaltoI did, but I can't see it anywhere there10:18
shad0w1e/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/kaffeine.png10:18
shad0w1e/usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/kaffeine.png10:18
shad0w1e/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kaffeine-play.png10:18
shad0w1e/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kaffeine-record.png10:18
shad0w1e/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kaffeine-pause.png10:18
shad0w1e/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/kaffeine.png10:18
shad0w1e/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/kaffeine.png10:18
shad0w1e/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/kaffeine.png10:18
shad0w1e/usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/kaffeine.png10:18
Kamping_Kaiserflood10:19
kakaltohrm10:19
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ircbot_flood much"?10:19
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shad0w1ekakalto: better?10:19
kakaltoI thought it would be in either crystalsvg or default.kde, but you seem to be right :)10:19
Kamping_Kaiserircbot_ flood lots10:19
shad0w1efind /usr/share/icons -name kaf*10:19
kakaltoshad0w1e, point taken.10:19
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=== ircbot_ ls -R / > file copy paste flood
shad0w1eare people pissed that I pasted all that in?10:20
shad0w1ehave I erupted anger in the bots?10:20
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Kamping_Kaiserits cool abou tthe flood ;)10:21
Kamping_Kaiserbut whos bot is it? never seen it before10:21
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shad0w1e>>>>> GREETINGS EARTHLING10:21
ircbot_i'm not a fucking bot10:21
FUZiON2hello10:21
shad0w1edamn, a bot with an attitude10:21
shad0w1ethat is so totally cool10:22
shad0w1ei once saw this bot called biatch10:22
shad0w1eshe was really cool10:22
bassMonkey=)10:22
FUZiON2Hoary + Apache2 + WebGUI 6.5.6 Problems10:22
FUZiON2If anyone else is using this CMS configuration, let me know how to fix this:10:22
FUZiON2From /var/log/apache2/error.log10:22
FUZiON2[Fri Apr 22 02:54:37 2005]  [error]  Can't locate ModPerl/Registry.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /var/www/WebGUI/lib /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl . /etc/apache2/ /etc/apache2/lib/perl) at /var/www/WebGUI/sbin/preload.perl line 19.\nBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /var/www/WebGUI/sbin/preload.perl line 19.\nCompil10:22
FUZiON2ation failed in require at (eval 2) line 1.\n10:22
smoucheit's 4:21 in the morning here, and personally I don't mind being flooded with kaffeine.  My system needs the jumpstart...10:22
FUZiON2[Fri Apr 22 02:54:37 2005]  [error]  Can't load Perl file: /var/www/WebGUI/sbin/preload.perl for server localhost.localdomain:0, exiting...10:22
ircbot_i'm a bot that likes 2pac10:22
FUZiON2I used the Pkg manager to dl mod-perl but i don't know what to edit to fix this or where to find the modperl/registry.pm file10:22
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FUZiON2Thanks in advance for your help guys!10:22
ircbot_FUZiON2: flood much?10:22
shad0w1eflood is the name of a "They Might Be Giants" album10:22
FUZiON2that didnt qualify as a flood10:22
ircbot_FUZiON2: do you think we read anything after 40 lines of shit?10:23
Kamping_Kaiserlol10:23
Kamping_Kaiserwtf?10:23
shad0w1ehmm10:23
shad0w1ewhy dont I ls my root dir and paste it in the chat as well10:23
ircbot_FUZiON2: did you add modperl to the apache modules file?10:23
karljpI suggest that this is not a #ubuntu problem,10:23
jubeiDoes anyone know anything about evdev?10:23
shad0w1e(recursive, of course)10:23
FUZiON2lemme check10:23
karljpit looks like a #perl problem10:24
karljpcpan install ModPerl::Registry10:24
ircbot_perl gives me a headache10:24
ircbot_well really regex's give me a headache10:24
ircbot_but perl is pretty much built on them10:24
karljpperl is a looooottttt more than regexp10:24
ircbot_it's more10:25
ircbot_but the are big part of it10:25
karljpand it's really just that you don't like the regexps that people often use and show you.10:25
ircbot_and they hurt my head10:25
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karljphehe, it's probably more that for problems that are solved with regexps, perl is a good choice10:25
karljpso you tend to see perl for thigns that are regexp oriented,10:25
ircbot_i'm sure one of these days i'll learn perl... just not today10:25
karljpbut there are also perl apps that don't even use regexps10:25
ircbot_anyway, back to my C book10:25
weazlecool10:25
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FreezerXWhere can I change the systems default character set from utf8 to iso8859-1?10:26
karljpyou don't want to,10:26
karljpso we're not telling you10:26
ircbot_karljp: yeah i like those alright... they are kind of like a weird C10:26
karljpc without malloc and free10:26
karljpget rid of all that pain10:26
shad0w1eanyone here know how to get my windows to stop showing up halfway between my dual display?10:26
ircbot_FreezerX: in cli wave wand | magic10:26
ircbot_shad0w1e: gnome?10:27
shad0w1eeither10:27
FreezerXok10:27
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FUZiON2cpan returned Warning: Cannot install ModPerl::Registry, don't know what it is.10:27
ircbot_shad0w1e: well i do believe you can tell gnome to remember window locations... but i wouldn't swear to it10:27
shad0w1eI have gnome and kde installed.10:27
shad0w1eforget remembering. the login window cannot be moved and its half on each screen10:28
shad0w1eas for the shutdown scren10:28
ircbot_ummm.... screwed?10:28
ircbot_just turn kdm or gdm off and use startx heh10:28
shad0w1ets not just that] 10:28
shad0w1ewhen I maximize10:28
shad0w1ethe window stretches to both screens10:28
shad0w1e -- not what I want10:28
ircbot_yeah10:28
ircbot_ummm10:29
shad0w1eI figured maybe kde had something to just let it know youre using two displays10:29
ircbot_heh i think things might be easier if you run two X servers and connect each display to one...10:29
shad0w1ethen i cant drag one window to the other screen10:29
ircbot_and use like synergy to connect the mouse and keyboard10:29
Kamping_Kaiserthat would be ugly10:29
shad0w1eplus each one has their own bar on bottom10:30
FUZiON2chown -R /* stfu10:30
shad0w1eown menu10:30
shad0w1eown clock10:30
shad0w1ei figured kde is smart and can figure all this out but i guess im wrong10:30
ircbot_eh i dunno then10:30
ircbot_don't run dualies10:30
shad0w1ebut i LIKE it!10:30
ircbot_http://irclikelife.com/sweetass.jpg10:30
ircbot_i meant i don't10:31
smoshad0w1e: does xdpyinfo | XINERAMA return anything?  if so .. metacity should just figure it out (and has done for atleast 2 years)10:31
ircbot_i'm not telling you not to10:31
smoI'd presume kwin would do the same, but it's a bit large to go installing just to see10:31
shad0w1esmo: XINERAMA: command  not found10:31
smooops .. grep XINERAMA, sorry10:31
shad0w1ethouight so10:32
shad0w1enothing10:32
shad0w1eno return10:32
ircbot_maybe i'll set up dualies instead of having two monitors next to each other on different boxes10:32
smo4.30am .. I'm a bit slow on the ball here10:32
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smoI've only setup dual-head with nvidia's extentions, so unless you're running nvidia .. I'm not much help.  but xinerama's the google-fodder you need10:32
karljpwhat's the gui cd/dvd burning app of choice?10:33
shad0w1ek3b10:33
ircbot_it take 2 video cards to run dualies?  never looked into it at all10:33
shad0w1eno10:33
ircbot_gnomebaker10:33
shad0w1eim using a 9800 pro10:33
karljpircbot: depends on your vid cards10:33
shad0w1eit has two heads on it10:33
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ircbot_9600 Pro10:33
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shad0w1esmo: so even though I have my dual display working (I can drag something from the left screen to the right) that does NOT mean that XINERAMA is working?10:34
ircbot_eh i'll have to look into that shit... might be spiffy enough to do10:34
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smoIt'd appear so.  else xdpyinfo would show the extention as loaded10:34
shad0w1eircbot_: and deviantart has dual display wallpapers that stretch across both screens10:34
ircbot_shad0w1e: heh nice10:34
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A-starHi everyone10:35
ircbot_hello welcome to ubuntu how may we help you10:35
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ircbot_hello welcome to ubuntu how may we help you10:35
Choubaka:|10:36
A-starI see the backports server still has problems10:36
cthulfuegoircbot_: My laundty needs folding10:36
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stazichhey10:36
stazichi am having problems with su10:36
ircbot_cthulfuego: i can take care of that for you.  dog urine will make sure they don't need to be folded10:36
stazichdoes anyone know why i cannot authenticate?>10:36
stazichthis is what it tells me:10:36
stazichstasvassiliev@hotmail.com10:36
ircbot_stazich: that's because root is locked by default10:37
A-starwhat exactly is the problem10:37
stazichstazich@Pisdiec:~ $ su10:37
stazichPassword:10:37
stazichsu: Authentication failure10:37
stazichSorry.10:37
stazichstazich@Pisdiec:~ $ su synaptic10:37
stazichUnknown id: synaptic10:37
stazichstazich@Pisdiec:~ $10:37
ircbot_stazich: take a tip... google ubuntu root and read carefully before enabling root10:37
ircbot_stazich: don't flood10:37
A-startry "sudo synaptic"10:37
ircbot_stazich: i'm telling you what you want to know if you'd read10:37
A-starand give your normal user password10:37
shad0w1eircbot_: http://clubcorruption.net/dual.jpg -- I just took this shot. perhaps itll convince you10:38
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ircbot_shad0w1e: but i have to undo my CLI only box heh10:38
ircbot_but i probably will check into it10:39
ircbot_if for nothing else to say that i did10:39
smoif it's cli only, it won't mind being ssh-only :)10:39
A-starcan anyne confirm that the bbackports server is down?10:39
shad0w1ewhats cli?10:39
ircbot_smo: that's what it was until a few days ago when i moved my other monitor in here10:39
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ircbot_CLI is console10:39
shad0w1eoh10:39
shad0w1ewhy not just get a kvm?10:39
ircbot_shad0w1e: ctrl+alt+f110:39
shad0w1eyes i know10:40
shad0w1etelnet10:40
shad0w1essh10:40
shad0w1eetc10:40
shad0w1ebasically, f** around with your xorg.conf file, you you will sure see the console. Am I right, ircbot_ ?10:40
ircbot_heh something like that... but i run cli on that box all the time because i have no use for X on a webserver with low ram10:41
shad0w1eof course10:41
ircbot_plus it looks neat... http://irclikelife.com/sweetass.jpg10:41
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ircbot_need to update my kernels to .12 heh10:42
shad0w1eI'm running a P2 266, 192 RAM with hoary on it, and X, and it hosts Unreal Tournament games, and shares my internet connection10:42
IIIEarsare there any good floppy based webservers out there - i was looking at miniapche - alas still too large - (lol)10:42
ircbot_well that's plenty fast enough except for ram... it's only 32 megs10:42
tgashad0w1e: that's so tiny10:42
shad0w1eits my server. why do I need better?10:42
tgashad0w1e: http://www.sgnx.net/~tga/ss/xfce_wide_1.jpg10:42
ircbot_IIIEars: damn small?10:42
shad0w1edamn small is great10:42
IIIEarsshad0wie - really? - that box is a wonder. grin10:43
shad0w1efor my p133 with 16mb ram laptop10:43
shad0w1eheheh10:43
tgashad0w1e: erm.. I mean the dual thing, not the server10:43
ircbot_what resolution is that tga?10:43
tgaircbot_: 1600x1200*410:43
IIIEarssounds like something i would love to try10:43
shad0w1ewow10:43
ircbot_4?10:43
shad0w1emy two screens are 15" trinitrons btw10:43
smoouch.  And I was enjoying 1280x1024x210:44
IIIEars"Damn Small Linux"?10:44
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MyNameIsChrisircbot_, Heh, you just had to pose your elite mouse in that picture. Eh?10:44
tgabig PITA to get the cursor from one end to the other :)10:44
shad0w1edamn small linux is a great distro10:44
BRiLoj0z10:44
IIIEarsokay - i'll give it a shot10:45
BRiLoalguien que hable espaol?10:45
ircbot_MyNameIsChris: actually that was the initial charge heh... couldn't move the fucker10:45
BRiLoQuien habla espaol??10:45
shad0w1eI installed linux on the box and my mom didnt even notice10:45
ircbot_anyone use jabber?10:45
tgaBRiLo: #ubuntu-es10:45
BRiLotnks :D10:45
shad0w1eshe just started fumbling around with the icons as she would with windows10:45
shad0w1esame greek to her, hehe10:45
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IIIEarsBRillo - check out "Translator" same developer as "Stream Tuner" - nice app auto matically translates IRC10:46
tgaI had my mom use linux for a couple of years, didn't get any complaints10:46
tgaIIIEars: that must be funny as hell10:46
ircbot_my mom understands nothing about computers10:46
shad0w1emy mom didnt even realize it WAS linux until I said something and she was like "yeah, I think the icons were in a little different places"10:46
ircbot_she thought that because i installed linux i couldn't do a lot of things... like go to websites10:47
IIIEarslol - now that i think about it you are probably right10:47
ircbot_granted i'm on irc a lot more than sites anymore10:47
tgabecause I installed linux I can't do things like video conferencing10:47
ircbot_gnomemeeting10:47
tgalucky thing the guys at skype released a decent linux client10:47
ircbot_gnomemeeting?10:48
shad0w1ebtw my unreal tournament works like crap with my fglrx driver. I cant adjust brightness. anyone run into this problem? it works great on my other mahcine using 3dfx10:48
tgaI guess, it won't work through NAT though10:48
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ircbot_shad0w1e: i've never been able to get my fglrx to work10:48
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ircbot_ever10:48
shad0w1eircbot_10:48
shad0w1eI can help you10:48
ircbot_about 15 tries10:48
shad0w1ei FINALLY DID IT LAST NIGHT10:48
ircbot_shad0w1e: i've had so much help10:48
shad0w1edo you have a SiS chipset?10:49
IIIEarsUT and nvidia? ?10:49
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ircbot_i used fedora that can set it up magically... and works for everyone... but not me10:49
ircbot_shad0w1e: nforce10:49
ircbot_i have nvidia on my lappy though10:49
IIIEarsdid it work okay?10:49
ircbot_but i can't get 1280x800 resolution out of the nvidia driver so i only use that xorg.conf when i want to use gl10:49
paulfoxmorning all.10:50
shad0w1eircbot_: follow these: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=105898#post10589810:50
ircbot_morning?10:50
ircbot_shad0w1e: it's a gentoo box10:50
shad0w1edoesnt matter10:50
paulfoxcan anyone tell me their story on how easy/difficult it is to get an ipod shuffle to work with linux?10:50
shad0w1eeasy10:50
tgameh, I gotta write a small ACPI script or something.. I ran outta battery earlier without even knowing it10:50
shad0w1euse amarok10:50
paulfoxshad0w1e, if i'm a gnomer?10:51
shad0w1ewait..10:51
paulfoxircbot_, uk time10:51
shad0w1eshuffle...10:51
shad0w1edoes shuffle work on itunes?10:51
ircbot_wtf my mouse doesn't work in vnc anymore10:51
paulfoxdamn, got a meeting brb10:51
shad0w1eyou can run amarok in gnome10:51
shad0w1eprob.10:51
karljpif my wine config says to use an actual windows partition10:51
karljpcan I put native dlls someone in the linux partition for it to get to?10:51
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IIIEars"" - Where do you drop the windows dll's for Wine10:52
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ircbot_ummm wtf... why did my mouse stop working in vnc... can't quite use vnc w/o it10:53
shad0w1eanyone know how to configure xinerama for ati ?10:54
ircbot_not i10:54
ircbot_and i'm laying down with my book10:54
ircbot_catch you all tomorrow10:54
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ircbot_by transgress10:54
ircbot_s/by/bye10:54
drummer87hi, can someone help me hook up a server? i have just set up a secondary box with apache, ftpd, etc.. and want to connect NIC to NIC with my box. do i use a crossover or straight cable?10:54
shad0w1eircbot_ try out that link10:55
ircbot_which link?10:55
shad0w1ehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=105898#post10589810:55
drummer87(clarkconnect on the server by the way, hoary on my box)10:55
A-starcrossover cable10:55
shad0w1eOption "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"10:55
shad0w1ereallly did it for me10:55
ircbot_i'll hit it up tomorrow10:56
ircbot_and that option didn't work for me... tried it10:56
shad0w1eoh10:56
shad0w1ewell I can give you a hint maybe in the right direction10:57
shad0w1eits got to do with your chipst10:57
shad0w1eor AGP slot type10:57
shad0w1elikely10:57
tgadrummer87: what are you trying to do?10:57
ircbot_haha really?  yeah i've pretty decided on that10:57
ircbot_but i don't play games anymore so it's all good10:57
shad0w1ei see.10:57
ircbot_although there are new drivers out so eh gentoo ever adds those to the repos i'll try those out10:57
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shad0w1etakes about 45 mins to compile10:58
shad0w1ehehe10:58
ircbot_how do you compile binary drivers?10:58
drummer87tga: have a testing area while i do a school software project in PHP and MySQL10:58
shad0w1eyou dont10:58
shad0w1ethey are compiled10:58
kakaltoyou guys know that icon with the i in a circle, infront of a chip?10:58
kakaltois there an icon of just the i in a circle?10:58
ircbot_no?10:58
tgadrummer87: more to the point, what are you trying to connect to what?10:59
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kakalto>_>10:59
ircbot_i gotta go... book heh10:59
kakalto<_<10:59
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drummer87tga: connect my box to the server box so i can upload to that while i develop my project..11:00
shad0w1etake care guys11:00
tgadrummer87: if you only want to connect two machines together you need a crossover cable11:00
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tgadrummer87: or you could get a hub or switch and two normal network cables11:00
RatDudehi is there anyway of installing the ubuntu live cd?11:01
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tgaRatDude: why would you want to do that?11:01
RatDudecos i dont have the install disc11:01
RatDudeand im on 56k11:01
tgaRatDude: nasty11:01
drummer87tga: i have a crossover but it's not connecting at the moment.. i prolly haven't set up the ips right11:01
tgadrummer87: well set'em right then11:02
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TuxicityRatDude, get it from a friend or shipit.ubuntu.com?11:03
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TuxicityRaskall, though shipit may take longer than 54k, lol11:04
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Tuxicity56k*11:04
Kaiser_awayit will take longer, but its packed ;)11:04
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kakaltoI finished my xfce menu :D11:06
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Tuxicitykakalto, is XFce menu editing easier than in Gnome?11:08
kakaltoheck no11:09
kakaltothe main problem is icons11:09
kakaltoyou have to specify the exact path of each and every icon11:09
kakaltoeg. /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-terminal.xpm11:10
kakaltoyou can't just click to add icon, and it's already @ pixmaps dir.11:10
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kakaltootherwise, it's alright11:11
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kakaltothe kde menu editor is definately better11:11
tom_neomhhh i hate it ;-)11:12
notoshello, Can any one orient me in where to get info for ... Joining An Avi Video and a STR subtitle?11:13
xelpudjust curious, does anyone know why ubuntu installs grub in a normal install, but uses lilo for server installs? I didn't see an option to select grub instead of lilo11:13
notos*srt11:13
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kakaltonotos, look on google about vlc, I think it does it11:16
TuxicityQT is GPL'ed, so how come and what for is there a commercial license?11:16
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tom_neoi'm not shure qt is gpl'ed11:17
tom_neoqt is free for non commercials11:17
tom_neofor commercials it's not cheap11:17
Tuxicityif you make a commercial program that links to QT, you have to pay?11:17
notoskakalto im using vcl (its cool :P) but can i save the a avi file whit no srt files (like the srt files are inside of the avi) ?11:17
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tom_neowhat i tried to say ;P11:17
notos*vlc11:17
karljpyeah, so qt is not as free as thigns like wx,11:17
Tuxicitytom_neo, QT is dual-licensed. you choose between commercial or GPL11:18
karljpwhere you can actualyl build commercial, closed source apps, without paying for a license.11:18
kakaltonotos, I don't think so, I'm pretty sure vlc only plays, not editing aswell11:18
kakaltoTuxicity, then why use commercial at all?11:18
kakaltobecause you can't really sell gpl?11:18
karljpbecause some people like to?11:18
tom_neoTuxicity: but if it was real gpl so how can you tell smb having a company he has to use the commercial version?11:18
Tuxicitykakalto, exactly. why?11:20
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Tuxicityi supose some 3rd parties want support from Trolltech?11:21
kakaltoperhaps11:22
kakaltoit sounds strange to me11:22
Ironfrostno, they just want out of the GPL's restrictions11:22
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Ironfrostif you use the GPL version, if you modify the code you have to release it11:23
TuxicityIronfrost, but if they dont modify or distribute QT themselves?11:23
Juhazand depending on who you ask, your own program as well11:23
Ironfrostsome companies want to use it in their products without having to opensource the whole thing11:23
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kakaltoIronfrost, that's what I thought.. but what does cedega/Transgaming tech. do?11:23
xelpudwhy can't I install admin/ext2resize (hoary) ?, apt says it doesn't exist but it's referred to by another package, yet packages.ubuntu.com says it exists and is in hoary11:23
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Tuxicityxelpud, maybe it's in a repo you dont have in your sources.list?11:24
kakaltoxelpud, it's here for me11:24
kakaltoremember to search for ext2resize, not admin/ext2resize11:25
kakaltobut it's here for me11:25
Juhazit's in universe11:25
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xelpudoh wait. sorry. i'm blind11:25
Tuxicityxelpud, it's in universe repo11:25
kakaltoxelpud, :)11:25
TuxicityJuhaz, oops11:25
xelpudI have universe commented in my sources.list .. and I even cat'd it a minute ago before asking, totally ignored the commented stuff heh11:25
kakaltoxelpud, don't worry, I suffer from teh same thing :)11:25
xelpudthanks11:25
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variancehi all, is there a tool to see what is the up/down speed on the current established tcp connections ?11:26
kakaltoI couldn't see this one package, no matter what I did, then someone pointed it out to me :P11:26
kakaltovariance, yup, I have it on my xfce bar11:26
kakaltobut that's not under gnome..11:26
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variancekakalto: not the whole occupied bandwidth but the single connection what up/down speed has..11:27
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Tuxicityvariance, i think the Firestarter firewall does(for eth0)?11:28
IronfrostIs there a quick way to change the owner of a large group of files from root to my normal user?11:28
varianceTuxicity: i'll see11:28
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kakaltowhat's the device?11:28
TuxicityIronfrost, sudo chown -R you:you /path/to11:29
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TuxicityIronfrost, is that it?11:29
JefisHow is called kernel?11:29
Jefisand how to get kernel source?11:29
Jefis:)11:29
kakaltolike /dev/whatisit11:29
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kakaltogrr11:30
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IronfrostTuxcity - I was wanting to do a big group of files at once; is that possible?11:30
TuxicityIronfrost, ya "/path/to/folderContainingFiles"11:31
Ironfrostthanks a lot!11:31
TuxicityIronfrost, the "-R" option is for recursive11:31
MyNameIsChrisJefis, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.8.1 for example. Could you please remover anything ambiguous from your statements.11:31
TuxicityIronfrost, np11:31
kakaltovariance, any luck?11:31
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MyNameIsChrisThat always happens11:31
kakaltovariance, 'cause you might be able to just "sudo cat /dev/whatever"11:31
kakaltooh, nm11:32
hobHi. Having problems with Hoary on a Dell flatscreen. xorg.conf seems legit, but gnome defaults to 640x480 and the resolution switcher doesn't offer any other options...What do I do?11:32
kakaltothat's not quite right11:32
varianceTuxicity: i've seen a bunch of firestarter screenshots but no one with the speeds11:32
MyNameIsChrishob, Onboard Intel Video Chip?11:32
variancekakalto: ? what do u mean ?11:32
hobMyNameIsChris - yup11:32
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kakaltovariance, don't worry11:32
kakaltovariance, I'm just trying to be smart, and failing miserably :P11:33
variancekakalto: np11:33
MyNameIsChrishob, I had that problem with the Live CD at my school. Try a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (or whatever it is in Hoary).11:33
Tuxicityvariance, Im no network expert. but firestarter gives me the KB/s activity of my eth0 internet connection11:33
hobMyNameIsChris - nice one, I'll try that. Thanks11:34
MyNameIsChrishob, Good luck, mine was with a Warty Live CD though11:34
varianceTuxicity: ok, i was looking for the single connection speed11:35
kakaltovariance, firestarter might have options for closing all connections except that, and then you could monitor it?11:35
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variancefound! iptraf11:37
IIIEarsTHANK YOU MyNameIsChris - "" The same problem.11:37
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Tuxicityvariance, we tried :)11:38
MyNameIsChrisIIIEars, Was it fixable?11:38
IIIEarswhat is the -exect- syntax of that command MyNameIsChris?11:38
MyNameIsChrisIIIEars, Couldn't tell you in Hoary11:38
IIIEarslol - (nap time?)11:39
MyNameIsChrisIIIEars, Someone here would know.11:39
IIIEars<< Using FreesBIE right now (good but it isn't Ubuntu)11:40
varianceTuxicity: thanks anyway :)11:41
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MyNameIsChrisIIIEars, So is the problem in Ubuntu?11:41
IIIEarsI think so, tho i have had the same xorg problem with knoppix also.11:42
Tuxicityvariance, your welcome:)11:42
MyNameIsChrisIIIEars, Well, on an XF86 system. It is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. I guess you could just find the package for xorg in Synaptic and dpkg-reconfigure it11:43
IIIEarsSuse - has no trouble - But then the printer and 'net connections are broken. gotta get a linux knowledge "toe hold" ya know?11:43
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cyklushello11:44
IIIEarsWindows is just not an option anymore - install connect to the 'net get virus/spyware trouble, install, repeat. - Doh!11:45
FreezerXYou dont get any virus if you activate its firewall!11:46
IIIEarsheh - it isn't the open net connection i have sygate it also monitors dlls with md5 checksuming it is the browser.11:47
MyNameIsChrisFreezerX, Ofcourse you do. Alot of exploits enter on allowed ports. Worstened by the fact not a single user does day-to-day tasks not as an Admin11:47
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IIIEarsWhat windows need is active monitoring of changed files.11:48
karljpis there anything like netstumbler/apradar packaged in .debs?11:48
karljp(not kismet)11:48
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IIIEarskarl -"Ksniff"?11:49
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IIIEarsgive me a sec.11:49
tm|werkdoes the linux-source pkg come with the normal set of ubuntu patches applied already?11:49
IIIEarsAh i got it "dsniff"11:50
karljpdsniff is not really the same as netstumbler.11:51
karljpVarious tools to sniff network traffic for cleartext insecurities11:51
karljpaccording to apt-cache show11:51
IIIEarsah - okay hadn't tried it.11:51
Tuxicityhere comes morning... another night w/o sleep :-/11:51
IIIEarssleep is for people without a 'net connection - grin11:52
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peanutHello. A quick quiz! sendmail is to postfix what bind is to ?11:53
Tuxicitydns?11:53
Tuxicity:X11:53
ptlotinydns11:53
peanutno!11:53
peanutptlo, is tinydns gpled?11:53
martinI got a problem..... installed a game demo, and it installed itself in a folder on the desktop11:53
martinsudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd11:53
martinsudo hdparm -k1 /dev/dvd11:53
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martinI got a problem..... installed a game demo, and it installed itself in a folder on the desktop. The problem is that the demo changed the rights for the Desktop folder.. how do i change it back?11:54
ptlopeanut: yup. it's djb's software (the same philosophy as qmail)11:54
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peanutptlo, is it in ubuntu?11:54
ptlodunno...check the repositories11:55
tm|werkpeanut: maradns?11:55
Pomhi everibody11:55
ptloimho it's actually harder to set up and configure than bind, so, i wouldn't switch from bind to it without a very strong reason11:55
tm|werkcan anyone tell me what the linux-patch-ubuntu stuff does?11:55
Tuxicitymartin, "sudo chmod 755 /home/desktop/folder" ??11:55
martinthanx tuxicity i'll try that11:56
Fackamatoanyone got lirc working in ubuntu?11:56
Tuxicitymartin, just a guess11:56
peanutok thanks for your help11:56
Tuxicitymartin, the syntax might be a little different11:56
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martinsudo chmod 755 /home/martin/Desktop11:57
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balorI know this question has been repetedly asked, but I've just hit the problem.  Where's the answer to intel i810 audio brokenness in Hoary?11:59
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Juhazit's broken? how?12:00
balorJuhaz: The alsa and oss mixers show up, esd runs but there's no sound.  /dev/dsp exists but prgrams complain that it dosn't12:01
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Fackamatoare the correct modules loaded?12:01
balorAll the modules are loaded12:02
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balorShould I be using polypaudio?12:02
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Juhazintel8x0 drivers (nforce2) and sound work fine here12:03
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StarSys Hey! I just downloaded/installed ubuntulinux ... when i am finished with the first installation-> rebooting-> booting up.. but when it switches from textmode to graphic mode, the cursor stops blinking and my pc hangs :) got any ideas?12:03
delireStarSys did the live CD work?12:04
Tuxicitydelire, dont think he has the liveCD12:05
delirebalor: try turning off esd and see if that allows you to write (play audio) to the sound card.12:05
delireTuxicity: ok..12:05
StarSyshehe, i haven't tried that yet.. but i have no problems with the other distros, except debian and ubuntu ...12:06
delireStarSys: ok, login using the console. if you can't see it then <CTRL>-<ALT>-<BACKSPACE> and do so.12:06
balordelire: I just (re) installed polypaudio and GnomeMeeting works...I'm sure if I reboot everything will (re) work12:07
delireStarSys: then 'cat /var/log/xorg.0.log | grep EE'12:07
delirebalor: polypaudio is way better..12:07
StarSyshmm... the keyboard is locked... i can reboot in recoverymode...?12:07
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delireStarSys: try <CTRL>-<ALT>-<F2>12:08
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delireStarSys: what graphic card are you using?12:08
StarSysdoesn't work.... tried all the terminals, but nothing.... also tried putty from a windows computer, but can't connect12:08
StarSysCreative Riva TNT :) [old computer] 12:09
delireStarSys: jesus, perhaps the kernel has hung.12:09
delireStarSys: that said sshd may not be running..12:09
StarSysmaybe, try to download nvidia drivers and kernel 2.6.11.7  and then compile the kernel?12:11
paulfoxsorry i had to go before, i've lost any answers on the ipod shuffle question. do they work with linux?12:11
StarSysi downloaded the new kernel in mandrake 10.1, and the system is stable, but slow.. :)12:12
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snipphi12:13
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Tuxicitysnipp, good gmt-5 morning :)12:15
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Prof_Frinkit's still morning in plain ol' GMT too12:16
snippevening here12:16
Prof_Frink*smack head*12:16
Prof_Frinkmight not be12:16
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tombshi ppl12:16
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delireStarSys: i'd download the nvidia drivers, kernel-headers and source and then compile against your existing kernel12:17
delireStarSys: do all that in recovery mode..12:18
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StarSysok... i'll try that... thanks:)12:18
StarSys"i'll be back..." :)12:18
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jimi7J #UBUNTU-IT12:20
jimiJ #UBUNTU-IT12:20
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Bazzidammit, ubuntu locked my partition12:20
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karljpis there any applet/panel thing that can handle connecting to a newly available wlan?12:25
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Nermalkarljp, netapplet ?12:30
karljpwhich one is that and how do I get into it?12:30
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Nermalkarljp, its a novell thingy12:30
Nermalgoogle for it for ubuntu I guess12:31
Nermaloooh12:31
Nermalits in apt12:31
Nermalapt-get install netapplet12:31
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gahananyone already did debian sid->hoary with apt?12:32
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Nermalgahan, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/upgrade-sarge/talkback/110076291212:33
karljpok, it's installed, now how do I get into it?12:33
Nermalgahan, second post12:33
Nermalkarljp, right clock on panel and do add12:33
gahanthx12:33
kakaltowow12:33
Nermalkarljp, you want the network selection and monitoring applet12:33
kakaltoI just found out that my name has a relation to dbz :(12:34
Nermaldbz ?12:34
Tuxicitykakaroto12:34
Tuxicity:D12:34
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Tuxicitythat's Goku :)12:35
iGamaback12:35
kakaltoI feel ashamed now12:35
kakaltoI must never mention it again'12:36
mjr:)12:36
Tuxicitykakalto, why ashamed?12:36
kakaltodbz is teh n00bness12:36
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Tuxicityhey12:37
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kakaltolol12:38
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=== goo loves that tsocks is a part of Ubuntu.
kakaltotsocks?12:39
kakaltowhat's that?12:39
Tuxicitybbs12:39
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gookakalto: tsocks intercepts network calls and send them through an socks4 or 5 proxy. Ideal for blowing holes in firewalls or play VPN.12:40
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gookakalto: http://kose.no/howto/ssh_magic_howto12:40
goo(256k upstream... slow)12:40
kakalto"blowing holes in firewalls" ?12:40
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gookakalto: if for instance you are on a network where the firewall blocks the irc port, and your irc client doesn't support socks4/5 then you may use tsocks to go through a SOCKS4/5 proxy anyway, hence "blowing a hole" in the firewall.12:42
gooAnd that SOCKS4 proxy is very often a ssh -D <port>  host  - just read the howto i posted :)12:43
kakaltogoo, sounds good for my local school and torrent :)12:43
gookakalto: yes, for instance - but remeber, you don't get more speed than the smallest speed of the site you are bouncing via (pardon my bad english, I'm norwegian :)12:44
kakaltook12:44
TuxicityO_O12:45
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kakaltoTuxicity, ?12:46
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wannabeanyone no how to instal the live cd12:46
Tuxicitykakalto, goo is too 1337 for me :)12:46
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gooTuxicity: lol :)12:47
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kakaltoTuxicity, you n00b :P12:47
Tuxicitywannabe, normally you dont install to HD with the LiveCD. Use the Install CD for that12:47
kakaltowannabe, you can't install the livecd12:47
kakaltothe livecd is live. only. no install12:48
JefisI have mobile cx65, and is it possible to exchange data between mobile and my ubuntu?????????12:48
kakaltoyou have to get the install cd to install12:48
wannabeoh ok damn12:48
gooTuxicity: it's nothing 1337 about it, It's just very practical to get the access one needs to do the Job. I started using tsocks so that I could edit Zope sites via Zope's ftp interface with emacs.  Normally that port is firewalled out, but not the ssh port :)12:48
wannabehow loing does the shipit place take to get the cds to u?12:48
kakaltowannabe, between a week and a few weeks, if I recall correctly12:49
kakaltoI don't think they've shipped yet though12:49
wannabeime having truble getting the dhcp to talk if i use static ip it works fine and i can c the network without a static and i have a ip?12:50
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wannabeand a dns12:50
JefisI have mobile cx65, and is it possible to exchange data between mobile and my ubuntu?????????12:51
kakaltoJefis, have you searched on google?12:51
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kakaltoIs ubuntu seriously headed for non-compatability w/ debian packages? is this deliberate? or are they trying to fix it? I hope so12:51
IIIEarsnah - take a peek at "Linspire" :/12:52
Jefisnop, haven't :)12:52
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kakaltoJefis, good luck :)12:52
Tuxicitygoo, well from my point of view it's pretty 1337 ;)12:52
super_dude2how do u setup a computer for windows networking --warty12:53
Jefiskakalto, it should possible to mount12:53
Jefisfile system of mobile is fat12:53
Jefisbut which device12:53
Tuxicitysuper_dude2, www.ubuntuguide.org12:54
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Tuxicitysuper_dude2, section Warty12:54
super_dude2i cant tick the box to enable windows networking12:54
mishofCan someone help me out ? i need to edit /etc/modprobe.conf but it doesnt exist :(12:54
super_dude2it says install SMB ---wtf i cant find it12:55
kakaltoJefis, there should be something somewhere on the 'net that tells you what device it should be12:55
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dbrouwerhi all12:55
dbrouwerhow can i clear the library in Rhythmbox?12:55
kakaltoJefis, it took me a while to find out where my device was for my mp3 player12:55
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mishofyou guys? where is modprobe.conf ?12:55
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Tuxicitysuper_dude2, did you "add extra repos"12:56
retro_hi, i searched the net for a howto for setting up my wlan card.. it is supported out of the box, but i decided to use eth0 as primary device. now I need to reload the wlan0 module but I am missing a tool like "modconf" under debian12:56
super_dude2hoe?12:56
super_dude2how?12:56
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retro_hm ?12:57
Tuxicitysuper_dude2, it's explained on ubuntuguide.org12:57
super_dude2yea im there havent seen anything yet12:57
Tuxicitysuper_dude2, there is an entire section for Samba12:57
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super_dude2ok ty12:58
locomortohttp://ubuntuguide.org/#installsamba12:58
locomortooh he left12:58
Tuxicitytoo late :D12:58
kakaltothat happens to me often12:59
kakaltoperhaps I'm too helpful :(12:59
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Tuxicityretro_, you mean "modprobe"?01:00
retro_no01:01
retro_modconf01:01
retro_to reload modules which you didnt load right into the kernel when installing01:01
kakaltomodconf...01:01
kakaltoI've heard of that01:01
kakaltobut loading modules is modprobe01:02
retro_i don't know how to setup wlan0 device with ubuntu, since i'm missing this tool01:02
kakaltoyeah01:02
retro_its the acx chipset driver01:02
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kakaltogive me a moment or two01:02
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Tuxicityretro_, maybe insmod??01:03
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kakaltoTuxicity, no, he means modconf01:03
kakaltoTuxicity, google for it01:03
kakaltoit exists01:03
kakaltoit's a debian tool for modules & stuff01:03
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retro_exactly01:03
Tuxicitywell it's not in universe..01:03
foxwhitei need some help i have a hard drive in ntfs and i can't see it01:04
kakaltoretro_, although others would say not to mix debian packages with ubuntu, you can download modconf.deb from http://packages.debian.org/01:04
kakaltowatch dependancies though01:04
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retro_ok i'll try that01:04
retro_thanks01:04
kakaltoTuxicity, nah01:05
kakaltoTuxicity, it's not available in ubuntu repos, as far as I can tell01:05
kakaltobut the dependancies are01:05
Tuxicitytoo bad01:06
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kakaltoretro_, if you're fine with compiling, you might want to go get the source, but otherwise go with the deb01:06
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retro_yeah i should modify my sources.list to add debian-repos01:07
kakaltoKamping_Kaiser, hey :)01:07
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guupstaallo01:07
kakaltoretro_, no, you shouldn't01:07
kakaltoretro_, don't add debian repos01:07
kakaltoadding debian repos to ubuntu is a bad idea01:07
retro_why ?01:08
retro_ubuntu is based upon debian isnt it ?01:08
kakaltoit screws everything up01:08
kakaltoyeah, but debian has newer packages01:08
guupstaanyone have that out of sync monitor problem with radeon9700pro when rebooting or shutting down01:08
guupstaand perhaps a solution to that01:08
locomortokakalto, not really01:08
locomortoand if you want upto date packages01:08
locomortoupgrade to breezy01:08
kakaltoyeah, but apparently if you get just 1 program, you'll need to update all the libraries to the ones available in deb repos01:09
kakaltostuff like that01:09
mjrretro_, the versions are out of sync, you'll probably get a mix'n'match distro with nobody to guarantee compatibility and quality01:09
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kakaltobecause ubuntu isn't up to date01:09
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kakaltolocomorto, see what mjr said?01:09
retro_mjr, ok thats right01:09
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locomortoim talking about woody, not sarge01:10
locomortosarge is testing01:10
guupstais agp8x enabled by default on fglrx01:10
kakaltowoody is probably older than ubuntu, isn't it?01:10
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JefisDamm help me with connecting mobile phone to pc01:10
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Jefiskdeinfocenter shows that i can device is connected01:10
kakaltoJefis, no luck?01:10
NermalJefis, useless quesion01:10
Jefis:)01:11
JefisNermal, why?01:11
Jefisthat is imposible?01:11
Nermalphone make model, method of connection, what you've tried, any relevent errors, where you've looked01:11
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Jefisi just need to mount some device(probably usb whick is connect) and that's all01:11
kakaltoNermal, you sound proffessional :)01:11
Jefissiemens cx6501:11
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Jefis"Manufacturer: Siemens AG \n Serial #: 353541005610874"01:12
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Nermal"I'm trying to connect this model phone via this connetion method, but I'm getting this error. I've googled for this error but this article says to do this.  This is where I'm at now."01:12
Nermalkakalto, comes from trying to prise information out of people to help them for years01:12
TuxicityNermal, that's very vague, LOL01:12
NermalTuxicity, it's an example01:12
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TuxicityNermal, j/k :D01:13
kakaltoNermal, I wish we were all like you :P01:13
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kakaltoElvis has left the building!01:14
Nermal"I'm trying to connect a siemens cx65 to my ubuntu warty box, via bluetooth.  I've followed the howtos on installing the bluez bluetooth stack and have a working hci0 device and can ping the phone using l2ping.  I would like to get my sms messages off the phone via this connection method, but searching for applications that support this operation over bluetooth yeilds nothing.  Does anyone have any suggestions?"01:14
Nermalthere.. I've asked the question for you... now all we need is someone to answer it01:14
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gooMaybe gnome-phone manager works with that siemens? Worked with Ericsson T68i01:16
kakaltoNermal, he left01:16
guupstaanswer is always nice01:16
kakaltoNermal, where I said "Elvis has left the building"01:16
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guupstano matter of the nature01:17
Nermalkakalto, nm, that can stand as an example of a good question to 509 other people01:17
kakaltolol01:17
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chimaerahi.01:21
chimaeraisn't there a source package for linux-wlan-ng modules available in ubuntu?01:22
Retro_apt-get source linux-wlan-ng ?01:22
kakaltoRetro_, possibly01:22
kakaltogive it a go :D01:22
chimaeraerr, well.01:22
Retro_;)01:23
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TFPhi01:23
TFPi'm searching for a rss fedd reader, should handle atom feeds. any recommendations?01:23
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chimaeraakregator01:24
dockaneit looks like i need to buy a usb 2.0 adapter, maybe a firewire 800, too. before i buy one, which ressources do i have to check to buy a "linux-compatible" one01:24
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Retro_ok there are dep-probs with modconf01:28
Retro_is there no other way to load modules to the kernel ?01:28
Retro_the problem is i don't know the exact module-name01:28
Retro_think its acx_pci01:29
Retro_since lsmod lists it01:29
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Saint33Hi folks...01:35
Saint33Could someone please help me with an Ndiswrapper install problem ??01:36
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snowblinkin hoary, what is the recommended CPU throttling app?01:38
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dbrouwernautilus crashes when on network sometimes (it does not open folders anymore) how do i manually restart nautilus, whithout having to log out and back in?01:39
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Tuxicitydbrouwer, maybe kill it??01:39
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TuxicityHow to setup Firestarter to allow Ubuntu update? FTP outbound?01:41
locomortohmm?01:41
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locomortounless you bocked it it should work01:42
locomortotuxicity, check your inbound rules01:42
Tuxicitylocomorto, my outbound is restrictive01:42
locomortoit does not block ubuntu-update by default01:42
locomortoits not outbound01:42
locomortoat least i dont think01:43
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locomortohave you tried disabling firefstarter to make sure its that?01:43
Tuxicitylocomorto, I got an outbound event on port 21 from me to shando.nerim.net (dest)01:43
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Tuxicitylocomorto, nerim.net is in my repos I think...01:44
Tuxicitylocomorto, and Im not using FTP otherwise...01:44
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locomortounblock port 21 outbound?01:44
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locomortoyou dont really need to block outbound in linux atm01:44
Tuxicitylocomorto, well im a bit overprotective I guess :)01:45
Tuxicitylocomorto, but still, you said ubuntu-update does NOT need outbound??01:45
locomortowell, it shouldn't need any special ports01:46
locomortodoes apt-get work?01:46
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Tuxicitylocomorto, no actuall apt-get update gives many errors/failures01:49
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Tuxicitylocomorto, but it seems to be "insternal server errors"...01:50
hussamanybody here using firefox? I can't seem to be able to install extensions on firefox. I get a file:///usr/lib/firefox/components/nsExtensionManager.js error01:50
Tuxicityhussam, I do. and I have 1 or 2 extensions (firefox 1.0.2ubuntu)01:51
locomortohussam: it works fine for me01:51
locomortowhat ports do you have unblocked?01:52
hussamcould it be because I'm using the firefox1.0.3 installer from mozilla.org?01:52
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locomortooutbound and inbound01:52
Tuxicityhussam, absolutly01:52
Mrs_Tbirdwhat is morning to all01:52
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Tuxicityhussam, I heard some extensions have not yet been updated for 1.0.301:52
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hussamthat's probably it. not a big problem. firefox is great without extensions anyway. :)01:53
locomorto<SlayR> i just bought MS Office 2000 for only $20!!!01:53
locomorto<Knghtbrd> you got ripped off  ;>01:53
locomorto<SlayR> i know ;)01:53
locomortolol01:53
kakaltolol01:54
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Tuxicitylocomorto, inbound --> nothing01:54
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Tuxicitylocomorto, which should I unblock?01:56
Fackamatoanyone got lirc working in ubuntu?01:56
locomortowhats in the outbound section?01:56
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Tuxicitylocomorto, http https irc01:57
Tuxicitylocomorto, 80 443 666701:57
locomortoit would be my reccomendation to not have anything in there, as i really dont see the point, but you could try adding 21 and 2001:57
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locomortoas in01:58
locomortoit not being restrictive01:58
Tuxicitylocomorto, huh, but then I could not access anything?01:58
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locomortoread the next two lines ;)01:58
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Saint33What is the easiers way to share your internet connection in Ubuntu ???01:59
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locomortoafter the origianl message i wrote01:59
locomortoa router01:59
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locomortoBradley's Bromide:01:59
locomortoIf computers get too powerful, we can organize01:59
locomortothem into a committee -- that will do them in.01:59
locomortolol01:59
locomortosounds like debain01:59
Fackamatois it possible to install ubuntu fmor the livecd?01:59
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locomortoits better to do it from a install CD02:00
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Fackamatoyeah, but is it possible02:01
TuxicityFackamato, it's not designed for that02:01
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Fackamatoyeah I know, but is it possible02:01
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audreyslt02:02
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Tuxicitylocomorto, sry but Im confused =-O02:03
AmaranthFackamato: No, it isn't possible.02:03
AmaranthFackamato: Well, you might be able to copy all the files to your HD and install grub but it wouldn't be pretty.02:04
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AmaranthThe Live CD works differently02:04
lazarus_kubuntu, how to find mc (Midnight Commander)?02:05
Amaranthlazarus_: Search for it in synaptic02:05
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AmaranthTuxicity: It's a PPC ASM call, iirc. :)02:06
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AmaranthDoubt he meant that.02:06
lazarus_Amaranth, Ok I will look after sympatic first, tank.02:06
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locomortoTuxicity, what i mean is be permissive by default to outbound traffic02:07
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locomortoand have no rules for it02:07
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Tuxicitylocomorto, but all those ports left open for nothing..?02:08
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Tuxicitylocomorto, isnt that risky?02:09
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miklhow do you create the passwordless admin-thingie that cron requires for mysql?02:10
locomortotheir outbound02:11
locomortoso unless you dont trust your own machine...02:11
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raetselafternoon all02:12
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raetselanyone know why my newly installed ubuntu hoary doesn't seem to want to use esc-esc for filename completion in bash?02:12
Tuxicitylocomorto, so there needs to be a trojan on my box, that IS possible, though unlikely o_O02:12
raetselI have to use esc-\ now instead02:13
locomortoyes02:13
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raetselany bash gurus about? :o)02:14
Tuxicityraetsel, esc-esc works for me?02:15
raetselyeah and it used to work for me on warty and when I upgraded from warty to hoary02:16
raetselbut not on my fresh install of hoary02:16
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Tuxicityraetsel, Im no bash guru02:16
raetselstill in trying to fix that I have found out how to make bash work with vi style command listing02:17
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raetselthat's what all the real bash gurus say tuxicity ;o)02:17
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Amaranthraetsel: Use tab?02:20
locomortonah02:20
locomortoi had to go to the toilet02:20
Tuxicity:)02:20
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raetselthx amaranth,I  can use esc-\ ok but I really would prefer esc-esc to work as that is what I use all day at work on hp-ux02:21
Amaranth*shudder*02:22
raetselgonna get confusing switching between the two02:22
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raetsellol - u not a fan of hp-ux then, amaranth?02:22
Saint33What is the easiers way to share your internet connection in Ubuntu ???02:23
AmaranthI'm not a fan of any system I don't have the source for. :)02:23
TuxicitySaint33, if you dont have a hardware router, use Firestarter02:23
Saint33I've installed Firestarter and it's not working... says it cant find lan0 even tho it's there02:23
raetselfair point, Amaranth fairpoint02:23
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TuxicityAmaranth, well said, me too02:23
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AmaranthSaint33: sudo apt-get install ipmasq02:24
Saint33Amaranth, is it easy to configure ?02:24
raetseltry telling my employers that. :o) Even whenthey do get linux they pay for the redhat enterprise version02:24
AmaranthIt's automatically setup with sane defaults.02:24
AmaranthBy default, this package configures the system as a basic forwarding firewall, with IP spoofing and stuffed routing protection. The firewall will allow hosts behind the firewall to get to the Internet, but not allow connections from the Internet to reach the hosts behind the firewall.02:25
Saint33oh, so am I able to share the internet connection I have on lan0 through wlan0 (wireless) to my xp laptop ???02:26
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AmaranthTIAS02:26
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danthemanhas anyone tried compiling and using gcc 4.0 on ubuntu02:26
dantheman?02:26
Burgundaviadantheman, breezy uses 4.002:27
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danthemanwell, i mean on hoary02:27
draskohi all. What is initrd in /boot/grub/menu.lst stands for and how to edit this to boot other distro I have installed, which only has a vmlinuz file in it's /boot directory, and not initrd?02:27
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Tuxicitydantheman, what's the point? you'd have to recompile everything, no?02:28
Amaranthdantheman: It'll Break Things(tm)02:28
danthemanoh....darn02:28
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raetselhey just using the tab key does file completion in bash as well02:29
AmaranthUnless you recompile every C++ library and application that's on your system with 4.0 and hope none of them have compile errors due to gcc4 being more strict02:29
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icebalmdrasko: you dont set initrd if you dont have one02:29
dutchmorning02:29
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agenteohow do you add new fonts in ubuntu? Copying them in the fontconfig directories?02:30
raetselhi dutch02:30
Amaranthraetsel: That's what I said...02:30
dutch:) raetsel02:30
raetseloh sorry Amaranth I thought you meant esc-tab02:30
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Amaranthheh, the esc does nothing02:30
raetselI still want esc-esc to work though :o(02:30
LarreHi, i did a dist-upgrade yesterday and one package is broken. Kdelibs. How is it supposed to be fixed when i cant do an upgrade when i got a broken package? How is the Ubuntu team fixing that.02:31
Saint33Amaranth: do you use ipmasq ?02:31
agenteoanyone knows?02:31
AmaranthSaint33: Nope.02:31
Amaranthagenteo: No clue.02:31
Saint33Amaranth: but it's the best way to enable insternet sharing, yeh ?02:31
Tuxicityagenteo, i guess, try02:32
draskoicebalm, but booting stops and says it can not find initrd, although i commented that line in menu.lst02:32
AmaranthSaint33: It's the simplest.02:32
agenteoi've tried but I don't see the now fonts like in warty02:33
icebalmdrasko: was it a kernel you built yourself?02:33
draskoicebalm, no, it is PHLAK distro02:33
Saint33Amaranth: thx, will try to set it up with my wireless card02:33
icebalmdrasko: I don't know anything about that distro, maybe it expects to find one02:34
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draskoicebalm, I dont think so... Does ro quiet splash options have to do something with it? Should I delete them? What about savedefault in the next line - what is it for?02:35
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Albackerguys, i did apt-get install acroread some days ago, and I got 30% of the package [i use dial up]  i did apt get the next day and got another 10%, today, i did apt-get install acroread and I had to do apt-get update before, and after updating, the download started from 0% :S02:39
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suiblagha02:41
TuxicityAlbacker, I would like to say I understand your pain... but I have cable :-P02:41
AlbackerTuxicity, ok02:42
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TuxicityAlbacker, hey, use xpdf02:43
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AlbackerTuxicity, i have gpdf, already but acroread is better !02:43
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TuxicityAlbacker, oooooo, mister prefers closed-source, eh? shame on you! lol02:44
UpayaviraI've got xine playing sound from a DVD, but get a blue screen. I've got libdvdcss2 installed. (totem just crashes, mplayer doesn't show anything.). Any ideas?02:45
davegahanwhat could be the problem of skype needing a lot of time to transfer text messages ?02:45
RemenicI'm sure mister Albacker would still prefer acroread if it were opensource ;)02:45
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AlbackerRemenic, well the problem isnt in the open or closed source. the problem in this case stands in "which is the best software" and ... mister isnt the right word for a 15 year old boy.02:47
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nanomadok people, i have a problem with Hoary...02:47
nanomadif I logout, i cant login anymore...02:47
nanomadany ideas?02:47
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TuxicityRemenic, LFS!02:47
RemenicAlbacker: I'm sorry little boy02:48
RemenicTuxicity: what's up with LFS?02:48
nanomadafter logout, all I have is a black screen. I cant do anything. I can only reboot02:48
AlbackerRemenic, no problem.02:48
Albackernanomad02:48
nanomadnot with ctrl-alt-del but a hard-reboot02:49
nanomadyes?02:49
Albackercan you do, startx02:49
Albackerin that screen ?02:49
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nanomadcant fall-back to console02:49
TuxicityRemenic, I wish I could build my linux from scratch this weekend...02:49
raetselwell nanomad you can probably try ctrl-alt-f1 to get you a terminal login?02:49
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nanomadno02:49
RemenicTuxicity: heh, I don't ;)02:49
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TuxicityRemenic, but im just dreaming...02:49
nanomadraetsel, i can only reboot. the monitor is black,02:50
RemenicTuxicity: sounds more like a nightmare ;)02:50
TuxicityRemenic, why is your address linuxfromscratch.org?02:50
Remenicbecause I still have a nice shell account there :P02:50
raetselnaomad, you've tried ctrl-alt-f1 yeah? and nothing appears?02:50
nanomadyes02:50
nanomadpc is blocked02:50
raetselbummer02:50
TuxicityRemenic, so your a convert from LFS to Ubuntu?02:50
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nanomadraetsel, what?02:51
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raetselI meant "bad luck, that sounds rough" :o)02:51
nanomadoh02:51
RemenicTuxicity: from LFS (3 yrs) to Gentoo (3yrs) to Archlinux (2 months) to Ubuntu (~3 weeks and counting)02:51
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raetselsounds like some sort of X windows display problem.......02:51
nanomadraetsel, ive read that it could be caused by composite02:51
TuxicityRemenic, me been on Gentoo ~6 months, then Ubuntu ~6 months02:52
nanomadinfact ive installed it. now it removed, but, maybe, there are same dipendacies still on the pc02:52
raetselcomposite? nanomad?02:52
trentbuckHi.  Does Ubuntu release netinst- or bbc-size install images?02:52
nanomadComposite extensions of Xorg02:52
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RemenicTuxicity: I have a little 'problem' with ubuntu... there are never any updates available :/  I don't get it, even archlinux had updates daily02:53
raetseloh right, sorry nanomad I know very little about Xorg02:53
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nanomadah02:53
nanomadnp02:53
scizzoRemenic: using hoary?02:53
raetselwhat graphics card do you have?02:53
Remenicscizzo: yes02:53
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TuxicityRemenic, well there is only security updates to the stable02:53
scizzoRemenic: then it is nothing wrong...02:53
nanomadAti radeon 955002:53
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scizzoRemenic: only security updates are done in hoary...just like Tuxicity tells you02:54
Remenici have hoary, heary-secutiry and heary-updates listed, but still I haven't seen any updates for 2 weeks02:54
occyhmmm02:54
Remeniccould my mirror be shitty?02:55
scizzoRemenic: read what I said before02:55
trentbuckSo hoary = stable, breezy = testing?02:55
scizzotrentbuck: yes02:55
menghow to fetch breezy?02:55
trentbuckscizzo: is there a sid?02:55
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scizzotrentbuck: thats for debian02:55
trentbuckheh.02:55
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grumpysmurfsid is the debian successor to sarge02:56
tidalwav1Hi, all, who knows how to get ALSA working :p02:56
raetselnonmad, some info here about editing xorg.conf for radeon... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24557.html02:56
trentbuckgrumpysmurf: no, sid is permanently "unstable".02:56
grumpysmurfoh?02:56
scizzookay...the fact is...if you use hoary you "should" be able to get everything working and have it stable...using the development stuff will surely break something in time...02:56
grumpysmurfdifferent than i last heard, but then, i haven't touched debian in at least two years.02:56
Choubakaetch will be the next testing.02:56
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scizzoor something simular02:56
Choubakaor something02:56
trentbuckgrumpysmurf: ICBW.02:57
tidalwav1anyone with ALSA experience? :(02:57
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trentbucktidalwav1: What's the trouble?02:57
scizzoif people are interested in development and other things with ubuntu I suggest to put some time on the wiki to find answers02:57
tidalwav1trent: just installed Hoary on a new(er) computer than I had been using it on previosuly. ESD works, but ALSA is dead...I can't select it in multimedia systems selector, I have no sound in frozen-bubble, etc, but I have the regular GNOME sounds.02:58
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Choubakawell, duh02:58
Choubakaesd is hogging alsa. :)02:58
tidalwav1how do I make them play nice? :P02:58
grumpysmurfask nicely?02:58
trentbucktidalwav1: what sound card is it?  Use lspci.02:58
tidalwav1uhhhmmm02:58
ChoubakaShort answer: You can't. :P02:58
trentbucktidalwav1: nm, Choubaka's answer is better.02:59
Choubakamake frozen bubble use esd instead.02:59
grumpysmurfi wish i had sound card/driver issues... then i could help people having trouble :/02:59
tidalwav1Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97]  (rev 09)02:59
tidalwav1:p02:59
tidalwav1Informative?02:59
scizzotidalwav1: I would suggest to turn off the sound server02:59
ubuntoidWhat is the usual Gnome CD burning software?02:59
tidalwav1scizzo: killall esd?02:59
tidalwav1ubuntoid: apt-get install gnomebaker :)03:00
scizzotidalwav1: turn of ESD and skip the sounds that GNOME uses and try to use ALSA instead...03:00
grumpysmurftrouble with an ES1371??03:00
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grumpysmurfi was using that chipset on linux five years ago ><03:00
ubuntoidtidalwav1:  danke03:00
tidalwav1grumpy: GAH!03:00
trentbuckYou can only have ONE program using each sound card at any one time.  In your case, that program is ESD.  Other programs then connect to ESD, which multiplexes the sources.  Some programs don't know about ESD and try to talk to the sound card directly, hence they don't play sound (because ESD is already using the sound card).03:00
grumpysmurftidalwav1 gah indeed.  i blame ALSA and ESD.  i believe i was using OSS back then.03:00
tidalwav1:p03:00
tidalwav1k, I typed killall esd...should I try selecting ALSA in the MMSS?03:01
trentbuckI want to get a just-enough-to-install ISO image, then get other packages via my apt-proxy.  What's the best way to go about that?  Does jigdo work with Ubuntu?03:01
Amaranthtrentbuck: Not true, newer sound cards can do the mixing themselves and ALSA has dmix for those that can't.03:01
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tidalwav1oooh it works now :p03:01
trentbuckAmaranth: I stand corrected.  My $18 cards dont :-)03:01
grumpysmurfthe wonderful thing about standards is there's so many to choose from.  in this discussion, the sound standards.03:01
chestyI have an SB Audigy, it's detected fine, lots of snd modules loaded including snd_emu10k1 (although nothing in dmesg about it). every channel is unmuted, yet I can't get any sound out of it03:01
tidalwav1lezsee if FB has sound :p03:01
grumpysmurftrentbuck my $18 sound card does :D03:01
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grumpysmurfchaintec a710, envy24 chipset ;)03:02
tidalwav1IT'S ALLIIVEEE apparently all it needed was killall esd :p03:02
AmaranthAppearently my integrated VIA sound thingie (dunno what to call it, it isn't a card) can do it.03:02
trentbuckAU$18, about four years ago ;-)03:02
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tidalwav1but now that ALSA is selected, will it always be used by defult?03:02
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tidalwav1or will I have to do this every time I turn on the compy03:02
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AmaranthWell, applications using ALSA are a bit unstable sometimes because ALSA is relatively new.03:03
scizzotidalwav1: turn off the sound server in: system -> administration -> sound03:03
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scizzoAmaranth: is it?03:03
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scizzoAmaranth: ALSA from what I know has been around for a while03:03
grumpysmurfuh03:03
tidalwav1scizzo: it isn' there03:03
grumpysmurfalsa has been around for a few years.03:03
Amaranthscizzo: It's only been in the kernel since 2.603:03
tidalwav1there's no 'sound'03:03
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tidalwav1oh, it's in prefs :;03:03
scizzotidalwav1: look in the rest of the menu03:03
tidalwav1scizzo: yep, got it03:04
scizzoAmaranth: the kernel yes...but ALSA itself has been around for quite a few years now03:04
tidalwav1but if I turn off the server, will I still have sound? :03:04
JeffWlHi all, Hoary unable to power off computer after shutdown?03:04
grumpysmurfif your programs are alsa aware, you should, tidalwav103:04
Amaranthscizzo: Sure, but most apps didn't use it because it wasn't standard.03:04
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scizzoAmaranth: the thing is that 2.6 is using ALSA as standard...there was support for it before03:05
iscandarhi03:05
scizzoAmaranth: ummm.not really03:05
tidalwav1grumpy: k, thanks, I'll reboot to see if everything worked :)03:05
grumpysmurfJeffWl thats an option for acpi / apm in the kernel..03:05
scizzoAmaranth: most applications for example the applications coded against GNOME is using ESD because GNOME is using ESD sound server03:05
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Amaranthscizzo: That's my point.03:05
JeffWlgrumpysmurf, what should i change to enable power off?03:05
scizzoAmaranth: and KDE is using another sort of soundserver03:05
Amaranthscizzo: ESD supported alsa but the apps themselves didn't have to03:06
iscandarneed an help configuring a belkin wireless card on last ubuntu.... tried to follow howto, but doesn't really seem to work....03:06
grumpysmurfer, kde used to use alsa.  did they switch to something else?03:06
grumpysmurfmy desktop linux history is pretty foggy from 2000-200403:06
OcidJeffWl: this worked for me http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#acpipoweroff03:06
Amaranthscizzo: The ones that use ALSA now use relatively new code for it so it can be buggy.03:06
Amaranthgrumpysmurf: KDE uses aRtsd03:06
grumpysmurfJeffWl yeah try Ocid's link.. unfortunately i have only ever enabled that option while recompiling a kernel..03:07
grumpysmurfAmaranth oh damn thats right.03:07
grumpysmurfwasn't artsd based on alsa though? :D03:07
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Amaranthgrumpysmurf: It can use ALSA, yes.03:07
scizzogrumpysmurf: would be easier to tell it to use ALSA instead of coding something that would overwrite ALSA stuff03:08
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JeffWlOcid, grumpysmurf , i will try that now03:08
grumpysmurfall i know is that since about 1999, sound on linux has "just worked" for me.03:08
JeffWlthanks03:08
scizzopeople using none duplex soundcards has troubles using ESD and ALSA at the same time for example...03:08
Amaranthgrumpysmurf: You're lucky, it's only "just worked" for me since 2004.03:08
grumpysmurfbut i only use known supported-by-linux chipsets.03:08
grumpysmurfAmaranth ><03:08
grumpysmurfand i haven't used a creative card since the sblive 5.1 was new. ;)03:09
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grumpysmurfie, preOddity03:09
Amaranthheh, until this computer I always used a sb live! 5.103:09
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Amaranthwell, since they had 5.103:10
grumpysmurfsblive 5.1 worked great for me.03:10
Amaranthused a regular sb live! before that03:10
grumpysmurfyup03:10
grumpysmurfwhich also worked fine.03:10
Albackerbye all !03:10
AmaranthYeah, with alsa03:10
Kyaneoshi03:10
grumpysmurfmost of the trouble i see people having with sound is either on-board chips, or audigy flavours.03:10
AmaranthMost onboard chips are VIA and linux has better support than windows does for those.03:11
scizzogrumpysmurf: because the cards most of the time does not support duplex...03:11
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AmaranthWhen I had WinXP on this machine I had to use the CD that came with the mobo to get my sound and network working. With Ubuntu I just popped in the CD and it worked. :)03:11
Tuxicitywoohoo! just checked, I have full-duplex sound card :)03:11
grumpysmurfTuxicity congratulations ? :)03:12
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grumpysmurfscizzo meh.03:12
scizzogrumpysmurf: so if the system is using ESD and ALSA then ESD will override the sound and use it...all the other thingys will not work ecxept if they are using ESD as the way to send sound03:12
muepdoes ubuntu recognize ISA-bus network cards automatically?03:12
grumpysmurfmuep it should.03:12
Tuxicitygrumpysmurf, and I dont even know what it means! eeeha!03:12
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grumpysmurfTuxicity it means that your sound card is magical.03:12
grumpysmurfmuep though i haven't actually seen an ISA sound card in about 7 years.03:13
darkauditany word on the gtk fix for Hoary?03:13
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Amaranthscizzo: ESD and aRtsd aren't even needed anymore and that isn't always true.03:13
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tidalwav1k, now it's the opposite: I have sound in frozen-bubble, but no GNOME sounds.03:13
trentbuckdarkaudit: what was wrong with GTK in Hoary?03:14
scizzoAmaranth: hehe....well some of us like the small mini sounds that comes when GAIM or something is sending a msg or something...hehe03:14
scizzoAmaranth: :D03:14
Amaranthscizzo: dmix03:14
tidalwav1anyone know why?03:14
darkaudittrentbuck: the file-roller directory bug... was actually in gtk... it's listed as pending upload in bugzilla03:14
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scizzotidalwav1: easy...you turned it off03:15
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tidalwav1scizzo: but...gah?03:15
scizzotidalwav1: ESD is being used by GNOME...03:15
tidalwav1lol03:15
Mykq3hello any freeciv players here??03:15
tidalwav1can't I make GNOME use ALSA, too?03:15
Amaranthtidalwav1: Yeah, you can.03:15
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scizzotidalwav1: killall esd killed the soundserver03:15
tidalwav1yes I know03:15
tidalwav1Amaranth: how?03:15
Amaranthtidalwav1: System->Preferences->Multimedia Systems Selector03:15
darkaudithttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=661503:15
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tidalwav1Amaranth: I have both ALSAs selected03:16
IIIEarsCan i disguise the OS given to IRC or while i am browsing? (Old Windows paranoia? - lol)03:16
AmaranthIIIEars: You can block all CTCPs.03:16
tidalwav1when the sound server is running, there are no sounds in frozen-bubble but there are in GNOME, and when the opposite is true when it's not running.03:16
IIIEarsHow do i do that?03:16
AmaranthIIIEars: /umode +C03:16
AmaranthIIIEars: That's only for this network.03:17
IIIEarsAh, - Terriffic. - Thank You.03:17
grumpysmurftidalwav1 i wish i were at home, i could check my ubuntu.. i have sound in frozen bubble and in gnome03:17
tidalwav1:P03:17
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grumpysmurf=\03:17
Amaranthtidalwav1: Set gstreamer to use OSS03:17
Amaranthtidalwav1: In that multimedia preference panel03:17
Amaranththe audio output03:17
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tidalwav1amaranth: uhh....03:18
Amaranthtidalwav1: ALSA has an OSS interface03:18
tidalwav1sink or source?03:18
Amaranthsink03:18
john__What is the command to set a password?03:18
drummer87what version of PHP is in the repositories? 4 or 5?03:18
Amaranthjohn_: passwd03:18
Amaranthdrummer87: 403:18
john__thanks!03:18
tidalwav1nah, now GNOME sound is back and FB is dead again :p03:18
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tidalwav1I give up. :p03:20
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chenizhi, ubuntu stops and waits, doing nothing for like 1 minute at start up, after it says "Starting Ubuntu..."03:20
chenizdoes anyone else have the same problem?03:21
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occyhow do I run memtest86 ?03:21
occywhich memtest doesn't produce anything03:21
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IIIEarsmemtest is included as a tool on the "Live CD" or in "Rescue Mode" - no?03:22
occyIt says it's installed if I try and apt-get install it03:22
occyheh03:22
occywhew, these xchat colors are gonna have to go.03:22
scizzooccy: most of the time you use memtest from boot03:23
IIIEarsfrom root how do i find an installed program without opening every folder to look for it?03:23
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occyscizzo, oh... it's not an acutal application?03:23
scizzoIIIEars: dpkg -l | grep applicationname03:23
trentbuckIIIEars: dlocate "bin/binaryname"03:23
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scizzooccy: its a test program...you have nothing else but that running on the computer so it can test everything03:24
IIIEarscoo-ol - you don't know how much that little command means to me. - lol03:24
Saint33Could someone plz help me with Firestarter setup and config...03:24
occyscizzo, ahh okies, thanks.03:24
IIIEarsscizzo - dpkg-reconconfigure works too doesn't it? - lol03:25
scizzooccy: before the system is actually booted you should get a question about looking at the boot menu..and in there memtest should be located03:25
scizzoIIIEars: ummm..that reconfigures a package03:26
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scizzoIIIEars: it doesn't list the actual packages03:27
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XandriXjdub, u there ?03:27
Saint33Is anyone here using Firestarter as their firewall / internet sharing program03:27
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scizzoIIIEars: dpkg -l lists the packages...using | grep application will give you the result of what application you are looking for: dpkg -l | grep gnome should you give you a package list of all the packages installed that has something to do with gnome03:28
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IIIEarslol - just read about how to change a forgotten root password at boot time - press e to edit grub and add "1" (single user mode)type type passwd - wish i had known - roflmao03:28
TuxicitySaint33, as Firewall, yes03:28
Saint33Tuxicity: did it install ok....??? it's telling me eth0 is not ready and I dont know how...03:28
Amaranthinteresting, esd doesn't even exist on my system anymore...03:28
occyjdub, you awake?03:29
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TuxicitySaint33, it's fine. I followes ubuntuguide.org instructions03:29
XandriXoccy i dont think he is03:29
occyjdub, You working on indubstrial still? (not that it seems like it needs work or anything)03:29
occyXandriX, ahhh okies, thanks03:29
XandriXnp03:29
SabatorDoes anyone in here use Cedega?03:29
XandriXme03:29
SabatorHow do you get Steam games to work?03:30
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XandriXeh03:30
Sabatorgames like Cs and TFC never connect to servers03:30
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XandriXu need cedega 4.2 for steam03:30
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Sabator4.203:30
Sabatorokay03:30
SabatorI have 4.303:30
SabatorI'll get 4.2 as well, thanks03:30
XandriXit will work03:30
occyXandriX, awake, or working on indubstrial?03:30
occy:)03:30
JeffWlOcid, Hi, thanks, the acpi=off apm=off thingy worked.03:30
OcidJeffWl: great ;)03:31
XandriXdid u adjust all ur network settings in network and do u have only cedega and or point2play alsol03:31
occyOcid, heh, they get our nicks confused a lot. :)03:31
Ocidsure ;)03:31
Saint33Tuxicity: any ideas why it's giving me the "eth0 not active" error ???03:31
JeffWl;)03:31
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ericfTwo questions: 1). can anyone tell me if gnome-search-tool only uses locate to find stuff? 2) How can I exclude directories to be searched? I saw I can edit /etc/updatedb.conf and use the -e parameter for updatedb in /etc/cron.daily/slocate, but isn't there a user-configurable file?03:32
XandriXi think hes sleeping occy03:32
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TuxicitySaint33, well oviously your network is working if youre here03:32
ericfwith 2) i mean *certain* (sub)directories03:32
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Saint33Tuxicity: yeah, but I cant seem to get this working...and cant find help online03:32
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Fackamatohttp://www.tehjunkyard.net/pics/fackamato/im00145603:34
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pseudoAnyone know of a workaround to get evolution running again on breezy?03:35
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mishofI asked this already and got an answer, but forgot what it was: what program can i use to make an audio cd into mp3s ?03:36
pseudomishof:  sound juicer03:37
Mr_They does anyone know how to automatically make links on the desktop to mounted folders?03:37
mishofpseudo, thx03:37
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pseudoMr_T: what do you mean automatically?03:37
BurgundaviaMr_T, it should just do it03:37
Mr_Tyeah, it worked the first time but not since03:37
syntaxismishof: "apt-cache search ripper" will show you more possibilities... take your pick03:37
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Montaghit did it for me the other nite03:37
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Mr_Tpseudo, as in, makes a link on the desktop when I mount03:38
pseudoMr_T: Say, like a cd rom?03:38
pseudoIt shold already do it03:38
Mr_Tcd seems to work, but not when I mount one of my other partitions03:39
pseudobut it will only do it iirc if you do it using gnome, and not via command line03:39
pseudoMr_T: oh03:39
pseudowhen you mount the partition, it will become part of the file system03:39
pseudoor should anyway.03:39
mishofAnother question: I've build my kernel, and at the end it says: GRUB is installed. To automatically switch to new kernels, point your03:39
mishofdefault entry in menu.lst to /boot/arch/i386/boot/bzImage-2.6.1003:39
mishof - thing is, that file doesnt exist. where can i find it?03:39
pseudoif I'm understanding you correctly03:40
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mishof(/boot/arch/i386/boot/bzImage-2.6.10 doesnt exist)03:40
EddieXMr_T, I have same problem, i have added my partitions to fstab and i dont get any nice icons on my desktop either03:40
TuxicityMr_T, it doesnt put partitons on desktop, just removable drives, no?03:40
pseudoMr_T: You can always browse to places >> computer >> share03:40
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Mr_TEddieX, exactly, it worked the first time, also put shortcuts in "computer"03:41
AmaranthEddieX: Places->Computer, drag the icon out to the desktop03:41
Mr_TTuxicity, yeah, just removeables03:41
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birkettHi. I have just tried booting off the install CD, but it hangs when it loads the ide driver. Can anyone help me?03:41
EddieXAmaranth, Im fine without them :) Thanks anyway.03:42
pseudoAnyone know anything about the breezy/evolution issue?03:42
Mr_TAmaranth, only cd/filesystem show up in "computer"03:43
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IIIEarsbirkett - are you sure your drive is functional?03:44
AmaranthMr_T: Things you add to your fstab should be cd/filesystems03:44
IIIEarside drivers are fairly generic.03:44
AmaranthMr_T: Removable drives get handled by the project utopia stack03:44
birkettYes, it works on my existing install of debian.03:44
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birkettIIIEears: I think it is related to some debian specific kernel patch, I have had similar problems with official debian kernels03:45
IIIEarsMy drive dies a few weeks ago - got the same message.03:46
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Tuxicitymishof, i think bzImage is in /usr/src/linux/arch/386....03:48
raetselbye all03:48
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Tuxicitymishof, and you need to copy it (bzImage) to /boot03:50
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Kamping_Kaiserkk|sleep. i was out of the house :(03:51
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mdkeis gftp compiled without ssl support? if so, is there any way to get it in?03:56
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larsrohdinyo! Im trying to emulate some games in wine, but it complains about my screen resolution all the time... what can i do?03:59
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grumpysmurfmdke: i see HTTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in. Aborting connection. from strings on the gftp binary03:59
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mdkegrumpysmurf, i am looking for ftp ssl support04:00
gratuitlarsrohdin: have you tried transgaming's version?04:00
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larsrohdingratuit, no that costs money..04:00
grumpysmurfmdke there's a line for FTPS saying the same thing04:00
grumpysmurfuse sftp :)04:00
mdkegrumpysmurf, so its not compiled in?04:00
grumpysmurfstrings /usr/bin/gftp-gtk | grep FTPS yields FTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in.04:01
larsrohdinbut how can i change my screen resolution? before i could use xrandr, but it doesn't work anymore...04:01
grumpysmurfso it would appear that SSL support is not compiled into gftp.04:01
Andreahi I have a problem with ACPI configuration on mi Lap. I have an Acer Aspire 1694 (Centrino pentium M 760 2.0GHz). The result is that I have non CPU and battery optimization and mi Lap produce heat, much more heat than in Windows. Someone can help me?04:01
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, edit xorg.conf?04:02
grumpysmurfAndrea as i recall, Linux acpi doesn't quite support cpu throttling like windows so your CPU runs at full speed all the time, so it is of course hotter.04:02
larsrohdinTuxicity, maybe you could help me do that...?04:03
AndreaWhen I had to install Ubuntu I had to use on boot > linux ACPI=off04:03
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, yes type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"04:03
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XandriX...04:03
irbdavidhow do i kill the x server in ubuntu?04:03
mdkeirbdavid, logout, press ctrl alt backspace04:03
irbdavidwant to install Nvidia drivers04:03
larsrohdinTuxicity, check04:04
irbdavidthat restarts it as well though04:04
mdkeirbdavid, if you want to stop it permanently, logout, press ctrl alt F104:04
grumpysmurfirbdavid /etc/init.d/gdm stop from a command prompt.04:04
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mdkeirbdavid, then login and do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop04:04
irbdavidcool, thanks04:04
EddieXgdm stop does not work for me in Hoary04:04
grumpysmurfrather, with the sudo of course.04:04
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, find the section called "Screen"04:04
EkaitzaHello everybody04:04
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XandriX*lpt104:04
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TuxicityEkaitza, hi04:05
Fab_im in e17 at the moment04:05
Fab_:):)04:05
Andreahi I have a problem with ACPI configuration on mi Lap. I have an Acer Aspire 1694 (Centrino pentium M 760 2.0GHz). The result is that I have non CPU and battery optimization and mi Lap produce heat, much more heat than in Windows. Someone can help me?04:05
larsrohdinTuxicity, check04:06
Ekaitzadoes anybody know if it is any possibility to save the configuration in a live Unbutu cd???04:06
irbdavidno gcc installed by default?04:06
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frank__irbdavid, no04:07
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, find SubSection "Display" with Depth 2404:07
larsrohdinTuxicity, check04:07
irbdavidis it on the disk?  i cant connect to net with ubuntu - modem doesnt work04:07
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, you see Modes?04:08
larsrohdinyeha04:08
larsrohdinyeah=)04:08
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frank__irbdavid, I don't knof its on the disc. My guess is it's not04:08
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colderhi there, I would like to add a fat32 harddrive used under windows04:09
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, replace with what you want, maybe "1024x768 800x600 640x480"04:09
irbdavidlooks like it is04:09
larsrohdin?04:09
frank__colder, check the forums /wiki04:09
larsrohdinit looks like this... Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400"04:09
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Tuxicitylarsrohdin, yes i mean like that04:10
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frank__larsrohdin, do you have the right monitor settings? Horz and Vert04:10
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, the 1st resolution to the left is the first one it tries. if it fails, it will try the 2nd04:10
larsrohdinbut it is already like that...04:10
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, which resolution you want604:10
larsrohdinok... so i should edit to for example "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" if i want 1024?04:11
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Tuxicitylarsrohdin, yes04:11
larsrohdinok!04:11
Andreairbdavid, put installation cd in your drive then Sistem>administration>Ubuntu Update Manager then find>gcc install04:11
grumpysmurfcolder specifically, search for 'fat32' on ubuntuforums.org or ubuntulinux.org04:11
colderkay thanks04:11
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larsrohdinTuxicity, and then restart x...04:12
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, save and exit. restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace04:12
larsrohdinthanks alot, ill be back if it doesn't work=)04:12
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, sure04:12
Andreahi I have a problem with ACPI configuration on mi Lap. I have an Acer Aspire 1694 (Centrino pentium M 760 2.0GHz). The result is that I have non CPU and battery optimization and mi Lap produce heat, much more heat than in Windows. Someone can help me? When I installed Linux at the beginning in the boot I had to type linux ACPI=OFF04:13
grumpysmurfAndrea as i recall, Linux acpi doesn't quite support cpu throttling like windows so your CPU runs at full speed all the time, so it is of course hotter.04:13
Ekaitzadoes anybody know if it is any possibility to save the configuration in a live Unbutu cd???04:13
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Andreagrumpysmurf, is it a problem....it can be damaged?04:13
frank__grumpysmurf, some cpu throttling exists. I dont nkow the details04:13
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darkauditfrank__: what about powernowd and the cpufreq modules?04:14
TuxicityEkaitza, probably by saving youer /home folder?04:14
TuxicityEkaitza, but then you would need to restore it some way..04:14
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TuxicityEkaitza, i dont really know04:15
darkaudithad to search a bit, but now my CPU varies from 1.6GHz to 2.2GHz...04:15
EkaitzaI looks quite difficult04:15
Ekaitzathere must be an easy way04:15
Ekaitzabut thanks anyway ;)04:15
TuxicityEkaitza, there probably is, but I dont use the liveCD04:15
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TuxicityEkaitza, ther may some asnwer on ubuntuforums.org04:17
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frank__darkaudit, How did you do it? is it a athlon64?04:17
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Andreadarkaudit, does it work also for mi centrino?04:18
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darkauditfrank__: it's an Athlon XP 2500+ (overclocked to a 3200+)04:19
frank__darkaudit, How do you control the frequency?04:20
larsrohdinTuxicity, it worked, but it didn't take care of my problem as i had hoped... I'm trying to play some games on Wine but all games give the error message, "couldn't find a suitable display mode"....04:20
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darkauditAndrea: not sure about Intel CPU's... I added cpufreq-userspace and cpufreq-nforce2 to /etc/modules... You'll need the correct module for your chipset04:21
AmaranthSeamusLP: PING?04:21
darkauditfrank__: once the modules are loaded, powernowd does the rest... it's loaded by default, but the modules aren't installed by default04:22
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coldera fstab -l state that my disk use the system "SFS" what's the correspondant system I've to use on the fstab file ?04:22
coldererm a fdisk04:22
frank__darkaudit, I see.. where are the modules?04:23
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Tuxicitylarsrohdin, hmm well most games should run under 1024x768 24bits, i have no idea04:23
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, what kind of games?04:23
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frank__darkaudit, I have cpufreq_userspace , _ondemand, _powersave, but no chipset specific one04:24
larsrohdinive tried all my games...04:24
SeamusLPAmaranth:  PONG04:24
jojo123hi all04:24
AmaranthSeamusLP: Kick goldfish for me, he broke something before he went to bed.04:24
larsrohdinfrom sim city 2000 to splinter cell... splinter cell almost worked...=)04:24
darkauditlemme look... almost dumb luck that I found the right one... :)04:25
SeamusLPAmaranth:  You want me to try and wake him up? crap.04:25
jojo123I'm having gdm issues with OpenBox. Anyone running a setup like that?04:25
AmaranthSeamusLP: hehe, please?04:25
dataw0lf|wgood morning people.04:25
larsrohdinTuxicity, some games show this... "Please use the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_CONFIG\Software\Fonts\LogPixels04:25
larsrohdinto set the screen resolution and remove the "Resolution" entry in the config file04:25
larsrohdin"04:25
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SeamusLPAmaranth:  Granted he has a test in an hour and he he's been asleep for like two04:25
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Amaranthoh, i can wait then04:26
darkauditfrank__: they're somewhere in /lib/modules... still looking04:26
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, im clueless. maybe you should search Google for "wine + someGame" for specific issues04:27
jojo123Right now i am running xdm because it does what .xsession tells it to. GDM seems to ignore my .xsession totally. Anyone knows how I can make gdm execute my ~.xsession?04:27
hksduanyone know what program will show the system resource information and the weather broadcast on ubuntu desktop, I saw it on an article?04:27
darkaudit/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq04:28
darkauditfrank__: that's where mine is...04:28
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larsrohdinTuxicity, ok thanks anyway...is there a list of which games that work?04:28
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Tuxicitylarsrohdin, >google<04:29
larsrohdin=) ok, thanks again dude!04:29
frank__darkaudit: I think I found mine powernow-k8. how do I load it?  add to /etc/modules ?04:29
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, but im afraid few games can work full speed on Wine...04:29
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jojo123anyone's got any experience with gdm and ~.xsession file?04:30
_nemohi all04:30
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jojo123ni _nemo04:30
jojo123ni=hi04:30
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SeamusLPAmaranth:  I'll make sure he doesn't go to sleep after the test, heh.04:30
guupsta:)04:30
darkauditfrank__: powernowd should already be running, you need the cpufreq modules...04:30
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AmaranthSeamusLP: Just wake him up a little early for the test so he gets on IRC. :)04:30
_nemoi have a problem with the repository ftp.nerim.net04:31
occyroot@captain:~ # apt-get install beep-media-player04:31
occyReading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done  E: Couldn't find package beep-media-player04:31
occywow04:31
occyhmm04:31
jojo123_nemo: authentication errors?04:31
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_nemoyes04:31
_nemois it normal?04:31
jojo123_nemo: me to.04:31
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frank__darkaudit, I have this /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-k8/kernel/arch/x86_64/kernel/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko04:32
jojo123_nemo: it started a month ago or so. don't know what is causing it04:32
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_nemoah, ok, thanks04:32
Casshi all, any reason why i dont see my current partition setup during a ubuntu 5.04 install, like http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=10 all i get is a whole disk04:32
jojo123_nemo: but all apps from nerim works04:32
lizdeikawhats the normal temperature for hdd ?04:32
dazedCass is it windows partition04:32
_nemoyes, i see04:32
_nemobut is it secure to use it??04:33
Cassdezed i have 1 windows and a linux ext 3 one04:33
jojo123_nemo: i have no idea. i need it anyway :-)04:33
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dazedCass: one sec let me look at ur shot04:33
occyahh there it is. :)04:33
_nemosynaptic claim that is unsecure04:33
Cassdazed, its what id expect to see, but all i get is whole disk04:33
_nemoyes, i also need it04:34
dazedoh ok04:34
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jojo123_nemo: ...because it can not authenticate it. I have used that ftp server before and never had any problems with it. not even now. I would say it is safe. My personal oppinion that is.04:34
dazedCass: the only explination i can come up with is that the ubu partitioner is pretty bad (as well as most other distro's partitioners) it DOES not pick up Windows partitions but it should pick up the ext204:34
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Tuxicitylizdeika, didnt know you could measure that, but system temp. should be around 40 Celsius04:35
housetieris there a rhythmbox-like (mp3,ogg,library/browser thing) media player without dependencies on gnome or (my)sql?04:35
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dazedif you want to partition a 3rd partition unallocated it should pick up that and then just auto partition the unallocated and thats the way to go04:35
dazedCass: ^04:35
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larsrohdinTuxicity, yeah i know about that, but i can't pay for the transgaming-solution...04:35
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lizdeikaTuxicity: i gor 45 C for HDD04:35
lizdeika*got04:35
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Casshey nice one dazed, so i blow my current linux setup away and install ubuntu, hope this works :-)04:36
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Cassthx04:36
dazedCass: dont blow ur current04:36
dazedjust add a 3rd unallocated04:36
Cassno space04:36
dazedehh04:36
dazedi see04:36
Casshappy enough to rid of mandrake04:36
dazedwell its worth it for ubu its great :)04:37
Tuxicitylizdeika, all i know is a CPU is around 40 C04:37
Cassgoing to install it to the latest version anyway,thought id try ubuntu first as im getting a bit annoyed with mdk recently04:37
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darkauditTuxicity: I only upped my fsb from 166MHz to 200MHz... high temp has been 40C04:37
Cassthx dazed, see ya !04:38
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FlyingSquirrel32My firms switching to a document management sys. called Interwoven iManage, I'd like to open docs from my system too. Any ideas?04:38
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occyhow do I get rid of these XChat colors and go back to default XChat colors under Hoary?04:41
occythey are quite hard to see.04:41
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cartmanhow do I re-set keymap to load at bootime ( boottime.kmap.gz ) ?04:48
SeamusLPAmaranth:  Hurry he's partially awake, he wants to know what he broke?04:48
Amaranthtell him to get on IRC :)04:48
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Amaranthhe forgot to chmod some files daeken needs, or something04:49
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SeamusLPhe mumbled something and rolled over04:49
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Amaranthd'oh04:50
AmaranthSeamusLP: he needs to chmod napster.tar.gz so the webserver can access it.04:50
XappeMaikeru: the guy with a nic problem, right?04:50
AmaranthSeamusLP: when he wakes up again :)04:50
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SeamusLPYou need to access it on the webserver?04:50
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frank__how do I load the powernow-k8 module?04:51
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john__Hello! How do I install a graphics card driver?04:51
ZenHey all. I need to know if ubuntu supports the wintv promio tv card?04:51
Zen*primio04:52
cartmanfrank__: modprobe powernow-k8 m04:52
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SeamusLPAmaranth: If I knew the root password I'd help you out.  But Alex isn't being very responsive.  So maybe you'll see him again in about 6 hours or so.04:52
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cartman2nd try : how do I re-set keymap to load at bootime ( boottime.kmap.gz ) ?04:52
ZenHey all....again. I need to know if ubuntu supports the wintv promio tv card?04:53
Zen*primio04:53
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Zenheh04:54
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frank__cartman, can you make sense of this? FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)   dmesg has nothing04:54
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cartmanfrank__: do dmesg and paste *last* line04:54
] BreliC[Zen, did you try googling it?  I type in "linux wintv primio tv card" in google and a crapload of links came up04:54
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frank__cartman: youre right it IS relevant - something about acpi04:55
frank__cartman, ACPI: FADT (v001 AMIINT VIA_K8   0x00000011 MSFT 0x00000097) @ 0x000000003fff003004:55
grumpysmurfwow 909 packages installed on my ubuntuuu04:55
john__Hello??04:55
cartmanfrank__: well thats not an error04:56
] BreliC[how popular do you guys want linux/Ubuntu to become?04:56
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cartmanfrank__: lsmod|grep powernow_k804:56
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john__I asked a question!04:56
FlyingSquirrel32] BreliC[: What kind of question is that?? / Why do you ask?04:56
frank__cartman: nothing04:57
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john__I asked about how to install a graphic card driver.04:57
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john__In ubuntu.04:57
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frank__john_, what kind of card?04:57
hussamanybody knows if there will be 3rd party debs for OpenOffice.org 2.0?04:57
cartmanfrank__: humpf try insmod /path/to/module04:58
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john__Radeon Sapphire 256MB04:58
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john__Atlantis04:59
] BreliC[FlyingSquirrel32, it's just that once commercial interests really get involved, they usually find a few ways to muck it up and ruin it for everyone04:59
frank__cartman: insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-k8/kernel/arch/x86_64/kernel/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko': -1 No such device04:59
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] BreliC[it's a catch-22 really04:59
FlyingSquirrel32] BreliC[: Well, comercial isn't what is pushing linux04:59
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cartmanfrank__: hum looks like you don't have a k8 cpu? :)05:00
] BreliC[FlyingSquirrel32, no, but it's not inconceivable that it will be05:00
FlyingSquirrel32] BreliC[: windows is trash 'cause they are more intrested in marketing05:00
ren0When I apt-get upgrade I am getting the following error Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:00
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kefforen0, root?05:00
ren0sudo05:00
keffotry root05:00
frank__cartman, I have a k8 cpu!05:01
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cartmanfrank__: no idea :/05:01
FlyingSquirrel32] BreliC[: You'll notice that although linux is growing, it's not taking the world by storm.05:01
] BreliC[FlyingSquirrel32, right.  but the same *could* happen to linux one day if it were to become the de facto #2 or #1 OS05:01
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frank__cartman, ok well thanks anyway! ;-)05:01
SeamusLP] Brelic[:  Ubuntu will always be free, presumably.  Don't see how commercial interests are involved at all here.05:01
] BreliC[FlyingSquirrel32, of course not, MS is making sure of that.  But like all empires, all companies eventually make mistakes and become overstretched and die or fizzle out05:01
FlyingSquirrel32] BreliC[: since the code is open, it is easier for people to make better versions05:01
cartmanwhat was the command to make dpkg-reconfigure asks you *all* questions again?05:02
ciocanelhow can I change the download port for gnome-bt?05:02
SeamusLP] Brelic[:  And you're using Linux rather broadly here.  Are you saying that commercial interests are going to muck up the linux kernel or one or two linux distributions?05:02
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SabatorOK guys, quick question. Can XMMS use Winamp plugins?05:02
FlyingSquirrel32microsoft can only control $$. Linux is not being held back by m$, It's just not getting a quick acceptance from people.05:02
frank__john_, I don;t know how to install the driver for an ATI card. driver support in linux for ATI is way behind nvidia05:03
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djm62Sabator: skins, but not plugins05:03
] BreliC[SeamusLP, well, both.  In the case of ditros, it's more tangible to see Suse cozying up with Novell.. but the Kernel, they won't be purists forever05:03
Sabatoris there anything for Linux that can handle winamp plugins?05:03
SeamusLPSabator:  There are some great xmms plugins too.  Check them out.05:03
FlyingSquirrel32] BreliC[: as linux continually improves and m$ gradually gets worse, the tables will slowly turn.05:03
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SabatorI'm looking for a .psf player for XMMS05:03
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Sabatorand a .flac plugin05:03
SeamusLP] BreliC[:  People take the kernel and modify it to their own needs.  It's not going to change the core development.05:04
ren0keffo ubuntu doesn't use root per se. It uses sudo instead. Anyway apt-get functions. It just won't upgrade  kdelibs-data05:04
] BreliC[SeamusLP, the whole fight about not including the Logitech Quickcam drivers into the kernel because they are binary is indicative of what they can continue to face05:04
frank__ren0, I had the same problem05:04
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ren0frank__, did you solve it?05:04
djm62] BreliC[: not really...it's a case of "where is the IP stored?"05:04
hksduHi, does anyone know that what program will show the system resource info on an applet or something like that on ubuntu desktop, like gkellm or something like that?05:05
] BreliC[djm62, what do you mean?05:05
] BreliC[ahh, never mind, got it05:05
frank__ren0, uninstall knetworkconf   or whatever the package with the conflict is, install kdelibs-data, install knetworkconf again05:05
djm62embedded computing power will make it much easier to have smart devices, and dumb, open-sourceable drivers05:05
] BreliC[IP = intellectual property?05:05
SeamusLP] BreliC[:  Doesn't matter.  If a distro wants it, they'll include it via a kernel patch05:05
FlyingSquirrel32] BreliC[: check out this article: http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2001041200620OPBZCY05:05
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FlyingSquirrel32] BreliC[: It will help give you a better idea of the economic motivations for linux05:06
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grumpysmurfwow..05:07
grumpysmurf2001 was 4 years ago.05:07
sighow does ubuntu run on mac hardware?05:07
SeamusLPgrumpysmurf:  Makes you ponder your mortality, doesn't it?05:07
Zenhey all... i need to use the bttv drivers for my tv card but i have now idea where to start.05:07
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djm62I'm sorry, I can't believe that, Dave05:07
jnkHi. Is it possible to download the whole ubuntu archive (with universe and multiverse) ?  (like debian and the dvd images through jigdo)05:07
MaikeruHello everybody... I was wondering if anybody could give me some tip about how to get my PCMCIA network card workign in Ubuntu?05:07
grumpysmurfSeamusLP no it makes me realize i've been using linux for 10 years now.05:07
Zenany help is loved05:07
frank__grumpysmurf, we're in the middle of the decade and still don't have a name for it like the 90s, 80s...05:08
jnksig, just tested the live cd on a friend's ibook. Worked great, except for the wifi05:08
sigjnk: the built in wifi?05:08
jnkyeah05:08
grumpysmurfairport?05:08
SeamusLPgrumpysmurf:  Man, that's like ever since gcc 205:08
sigI thought that was fully supported05:08
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FlyingSquirrel32djm62: are you there?05:09
djm62metaphorically speaking05:09
Zeni need to use the bttv drivers for my tv card but i have now idea where to start.05:09
ZenPlease helpy?05:09
grumpysmurfSeamusLP Slackware 2, i believe, is what i started using.05:09
jnksig, well I think only ethernet was working but he was a bit anxious for his computer so I only tested for 2 minutes or so...05:09
jnkZen, ok05:09
jnkZen,  do "lsmod | grep bttv"  do you see something ?05:10
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SeamusLPgrumpysmurf:  I've only been using linux on the desktop for a year now.  Before that I've had a unix shell account for some time.05:10
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djm62SeamusLP: whereabouts?05:10
phxguyAny  suggestions on what to use to rip cds for  mp305:11
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jnkyeaaah05:11
SeamusLPdjm62:  same here ;)05:11
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djm62my $HOME from $HOME05:11
jnkphxguy, sound-juicer is sweeet05:11
SeamusLPdjm62:  Had it for like 5 years05:11
grumpysmurfphxguy long ago, i liked 'grip'05:11
grumpysmurfbut i haven't ripped cds on linux in like 5+ years05:11
blue_dolphinokay im trying to install the drive for my ati tv wonder ve card in doing so im trying to compile a driver and am getting this error: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.  In the interest of doing things the ubuntu way what package do I need to install or is there any?05:11
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MaikeruMy ubuntu system doesn't autodetect  my PCMCIA "corega EtherII PCC-TD" networkcard... on the producers homepage the say that something like "it does work with linux, but... and then the mention pcnet_cs"... it's all written in japanese, so I don't really understand the instructions... does anybode know what they might be talking about05:11
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jiyuu0is backports down?05:12
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phxguyjnk: for soome reason soundjuicer wont give me the option of mp305:12
wasabi__I'm looking for an application that shows network usage.05:12
blue_dolphinin the end all i want is mythtv to work with the ati tv wonder card05:12
wasabi__in k/sec or something05:12
jnkphxguy, yeah you must add it yourself (non-free format...)05:12
djm62SeamusLP: you're the same vintage as me then05:12
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: when I boot up, my system synchs the time with ntp.ubuntulinux.org I want to turn that of05:12
sigFlyingSquirrel32: one sec, let me get you the link05:13
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djm62FlyingSquirrel32: remove the symlink to ntpdate from /etc/rc2.d05:13
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: I can't find it in my inittab or sysinit05:13
jnkphxguy, I can give you the instructions in some minutes if you want05:13
phxguyjnk: how do you add it yourself05:13
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jnkphxguy, (busy right now)05:13
FlyingSquirrel32djm62: k thanks05:13
grumpysmurfi see /etc/rcS.d/S51ntpdate05:13
grumpysmurfFlyingSquirrel3205:13
SeamusLPdjm62:  http://djm62.freeshell.org/ ?05:13
sighttp://ubuntuguide.org/#synchronizingclocktooslow05:13
djm62d'oh!05:14
djm62caught05:14
FlyingSquirrel32grumpysmurf: yeah?05:14
djm62the site's just for me to practice web stuff05:14
grumpysmurfbut thats single user mode.05:14
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grumpysmurfthat doesn't mean that ubuntu doesn't start scripts in each runlevel as it gets to initdefault05:14
sigFlyingSquirrel32: don't do what djm62 said05:14
SeamusLPdjm62:  That's what I use mine for.  I made a php version of pokey the penguin.05:14
SeamusLPdjm62: http://seams.freeshell.org/pokey05:14
sigfollow this link for the correct way:  http://ubuntuguide.org/#synchronizingclocktooslow05:14
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SeamusLPdjm62: http://seamus.freeshell.org/pokey I mean05:15
mishofIn GRUB: how can i specify the system.map file ? (in lilo its map=/boot/System.map)05:15
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jnkmishof, what's the system.map file ?05:16
SeamusLPdjm62:  Just for a comparison the original is here, http://www.yellow5.com/pokey05:16
grumpysmurfit automagically uses System.map-`uname -r` apparently...05:16
grumpysmurfi don't have a specific entry for System.map in my /boot/grub/menu.lst05:16
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mishofjnk, its System.map-2.6.10-special05:16
jnkmishof, I mean, what's its purpose (just curious)05:17
djm62SeamusLP: I take it it's seamus.f.o ?05:17
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mishofjnk, ah i dont know :| im following a tutorial that teaches compiling a new kernel :\05:17
SeamusLPdjm62:  yeah05:17
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jnkmishof, maybe it's not relevant in grub? (just a lilo specific?)05:18
mishofgrumpysmurf, ok thanks05:18
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grumpysmurfmishof specifically, i have never had to configure 'System.map' in a grub configuration05:18
djm62SeamusLP: smart...php is something for me to add05:19
grumpysmurfphp is good for you.05:19
mishofgrumpysmurf, so i just need it to match the name of the kernel ? ok05:19
mishofwhatsup with this pokey ? hes funneh 8-)05:20
FlyingSquirrel32sig: Awsome thanks.05:20
djm62weird cartoon...like uk children's TV that's been bought from the Finns05:20
hksduhi, what's the shortcut key for switching workspace in ubuntu?05:20
jnkmishof, you just need correct "kernel" and "initrd" lines05:20
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jnk(and root of course)05:20
SeamusLPdjm62:  You got that right.  There are exactly two php pages on that pokey mirror, the rest is approximately 3000 images05:20
hksduis it CTRL + Fx?05:21
blue_dolphinany idea on how to get rid of this error make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.05:21
jnkhksdu, Ctrl+Alt+ Left or Right arrow (that's what I use)05:21
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hksduic...thanks.05:21
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hksduo....do you know what program that I can show my system resource on desktop?05:22
jnkhksdu, gdekslets05:22
jnkgdesklets05:22
hksdujnk: but I can't find it in synaptic...05:22
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hksdujnk: what category is that? cuz when I search it results nothing05:23
SeamusLPdjm62:  Yeah, the comic has been around since 1996.  It's obvious that it wasn't written by a child, just a really insane adult.05:23
jnkhksdu, you must enable universe05:23
aldugwhat are the alternatives to dselect in ubunutu?05:23
jnksynaptic05:23
SeamusLPdjm62:  The guys last name is Havelka or something.  Is that Finnish?05:23
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jnkaldug, and gnome-apt05:23
hksduic05:23
aldugjnk: which one is better?05:23
djm62could be...northern europe is kind of blurred to me05:23
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hksduic...let me try05:24
Valentin-hey, how do I uninstall packages?05:24
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a2t3SeamusLP: czech IMHO05:24
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jnkhksdu, you go to Settings, then Repositories. Do you see an option for universe or something?05:24
darkauditgdesklets is great... gdesklets-data is badly obsolete... :(05:24
jnkValentin-, use synaptic :)05:24
Valentin-jnk, okay05:25
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jnkaldug, gnome-apt is simpler IIRC, synaptic is default so probably more supported05:25
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mdkestill on the question of ftp and ssl, does anyone know what the best solution is? install ftp-ssl and bite the bullet on removing ubuntu-base?05:25
Valentin-jnk, is there away to this via terminal?05:26
jnkValentin-, or if you lilke command-line: sudo aptitude remove name_of_the_program05:26
stantonnoob here. trying to install mplayer via synaptic but getting backports not available message. are the servers down?05:26
jnkyou can also do a purge instead of remove to get rid of the config files05:26
hksdujnk: you mean add?05:26
jnkstanton, do you have merillat's repositories ?05:26
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stantonjnk: yes05:27
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jnkhksdu, about ?05:27
jnkthe repositories?05:27
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hksdujnk: o....do I enable the multiUniverse also?05:27
jnkif you want.. I think it only makes sense if you enable non-free too (not sure)05:28
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stantonjnk: seems there are dependencies for mplayer only available in backports, unless I am mistaken.05:28
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hksdujnk: after I mark for installation, how do I install?05:29
frank__hksdu, apply05:29
hksdufrank__, thx05:30
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Valentin-jnk, is it possible to remove complete categories like games for example?05:30
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jnkstanton, I think you can install mplayer (for example mplayer-586) using only universe/multiverse (maybe non-free). You need non-hoary packages for windows codecs and such only05:31
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stantonjnk: thank you05:31
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jnkValentin-, I don't know any option for that. But if there's none you can certainly make a simple script to do it...05:32
hendershothas anyone built all the libs for e17 succesfully? I stop at engrave the last one with an error05:33
hendershotthe #E channel thinks it is a bison error05:33
hendershotand I cannot figure it? i thought i would ask someone here?05:33
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] BreliC[FlyingSquirrel32, interesting article.  All points I agree with... I was just playing devil's advocate earlier.  It has happened time and time again that something I thought was almost perfect became too popular for its own good and was diluted to the lowest common denominator... it's just not soemthing i would wish upon linux05:35
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jnkhksdu, actually it seems there's no nonfree in hoary :)05:36
djm62] BreliC[: it's a matter of choice...there'll always be a lowest common denominator, but hopefully you'll never have to use it05:36
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] BreliC[djm62, i hope you're right.05:36
sigtry #bison05:37
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djm62] BreliC[: I kind of see "linux world domination" as making sure nobody /has/ to pay for software, rather than the elimination of corporate computing...to that extent it's pretty much succeeded05:38
] BreliC[djm62, as a marxist, i just feel the world has to change too much before most people can make sense out of it, removed from both the alienated form and the truth in alienated form05:38
Valentin-does the server version of the ubuntu install have any desktop system installed?05:38
SeamusLP] BreliC[:  Linux is already being diluted in such a manner.  Ever heard of Lindows/Linspire?05:38
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SeamusLPIt doesn't make linux any less valid because there are choices05:39
] BreliC[djm62, yes, that is a valiant effort and a worthy one, but what about software patents?  commercial interests are simply using legal tools to crush others05:39
hksdujnk: hehehe...hey, how to run the desklet thing? I run, it shows me a list but how do I add one of them to desktop?05:39
Choubaka"nobody has to pay for software" wtf?05:39
djm62] BreliC[: is that not more nihilist than marxist...as an ex-marxist I think we need to drop ideology and focus on what works...political engineering rather than political philosophy05:39
Choubakaof course you'll have to pay for software.05:39
dataw0lf|whksdu: gdesklets?05:39
Choubakaall software can't be free.05:39
] BreliC[SeamusLP, yup.  How can you charge for C'n'R when it's using apt-get to get free software from repositories?05:39
djm62Choubaka: yeah, but not everyone has to use paid-for software05:39
dataw0lf|whksdu: start up gdesklets, and then run the specific gdesklet you want with 'gdesklet <whatever>'05:40
Choubakayeah, sure.05:40
SeamusLP] BreliC[:  Precisely.  I mean Michael Robertson is a nice guy, but he's running a business...05:40
jnkhksdu, sorry I don't remember... look in /usr/share/doc/gdesklets for documentation (README.Debian for example) and http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/05:40
hksdujnk: thx05:40
SeamusLP] Brelic[:  Also linspire laptops / desktops are being sold at wal-mart05:40
hksdudataw0lf, do I need to run in console?05:40
] BreliC[djm62, hmm, no, it is not nihilist.  it's absolutely marxist.  and marx would not be fond of political engineering.. though I understand what you're saying05:41
dataw0lf|whksdu: not necessarily, you can click on it and select 'run with' or something.05:41
dataw0lf|wI don't really ever use a gui, so I don't know exactly what it's called.05:41
hksdudataw0lf, thank you...let me try05:41
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jnkhksdu, but I think you have a menu item for starting gdesklets05:41
jnklook for it...05:41
djm62] BreliC[: there's a difference which is rarely drawn in politics between what one tries to do and how one tries to do it....the socialists are hopeless on the second, but the solution is not to elect a better proletariat ;)05:42
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darkaudithksdu: you have a little jigsaw icon in the taskbar?05:42
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hksduya, I highlighted one of them and when it runs, it gives me an icon to drag and drop on the desktop, but after I place it, it doesn't show me anything though05:42
] BreliC[djm62, heh, exactly, which just amounts to the truth in alienated form... no different from alienated form, except it is rule of the proletariat instead of the bourgeoisie05:43
gaioanyone use ssl and gFTP ?05:43
] BreliC[djm62, so as an ex-marxist, where have you drifted?05:43
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] BreliC[sorry, last off topic question05:43
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darkaudithksdu: you need to right click on the desklet to configure it... also open the shell with 'Manage desklets', then go to the gdesklets home page... get some SideCandy desklets... you can drag-n-drop the tar.gz file right into the gdesklets shell05:44
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fsapomorning :)05:45
gaionone :(05:45
hksduic05:45
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viryhi i'm currently trying to install from a .install script by using sudo & i keep on getting command not found05:45
djm62] BreliC[: not really a #ubuntu thread05:46
fsapoi m witha cdrom stuck in the drive.. nothing is using it but it still says "device is busy" anybody knows how can i take it out? or how can i find out wth is using it? thanx05:46
darkaudithksdu: the psi desklets in gdesklets-data looked nice... when they worked... the latest ver of gdesklets proper obsoleted them :(05:46
darkauditfsapo: sudo eject05:46
bassMonkeyviry: you need to put a ./ infront...05:46
hksdudarkaudit, what's psi?05:46
viryi am bassMonkey  this is the command i'm using sudo ./install.sh05:47
darkaudithksdu: there were a bunch of desklets written by a guy known as psi... he hasn't been heard from in a while...05:47
hksdudarkaudit, ic05:47
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FlyingSquirrel32] BreliC[: Just saw your response. Amen to all you said.05:48
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blue_dolphinviry: sudo sh ./install.sh05:48
karljphow come after I apt-get install acroread, I can't run acroread.05:48
karljpit says, /usr/bin/acroread: line 12: /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread: No such file or directory05:48
virythanks blue_dolphin i'll give it a try05:48
TalonAMi have a large problem .. i can get ubuntu to run on the box i'm settting up but i can't get the serial mouse to move05:48
TalonAMi'm new to ubuntu and linux in general, anyone have any ideas on what to look for ?05:49
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mishofI've compiled a new kernel, but once i try loading it up i get kernel panic, after it says /lib/modules/2.6.10/modules.dep doesnt exist (it does!) what can  i do?05:50
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hksdudarkaudit, wow...it works!!!!  thank you very much!!!05:51
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darkaudithksdu: yw :)05:51
SWAT_hih all05:51
SWAT_I'm thinking about using Ubuntu64. Since I'm a student (mplayer/mp3/OoO) and a gamer (cedega) I'm wondering if this is a smart choice...05:53
grumpysmurfSWAT_ do you need flash?05:53
SWAT_yes05:53
SWAT_in FF05:53
gaioanyone use ssl and gFTP ?05:53
grumpysmurfdo you need a 64 bit web browser?05:53
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SWAT_grumpysmurf, not if a 32bit would wokr05:54
grumpysmurfSWAT thats what i hear.05:54
grumpysmurfthere's a doc on the ubuntu site that tells how to install 32 bit firefox and flash.05:54
SWAT_nice05:54
SWAT_but how about other progs?05:55
grumpysmurfthere's no flash for 64 bit linux yet.. and since its a library that firefox uses, it has to be 32 bit, etc.05:55
SWAT_I read something about a 32bit chroot (for running 32 on 64bit)05:55
grumpysmurfSWAT_ i haven't had any issues with anything else.  though i haven't tried cedega/wine, or anything much really yet.05:55
karljpanyone know how to get acroread to work?05:55
karljpor something else I should use instead?05:55
grumpysmurfxpdf works for me.05:55
dataw0lf|wxpdf05:55
grumpysmurfmainly because i hate acroread.05:56
dataw0lf|wand it hates you.05:56
grumpysmurf:)05:56
dataw0lf|w;)05:56
grumpysmurf7 is faster on windows at least.05:56
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SWAT_grumpysmurf, what progs do you use? (OoO, FTP, mail (Thunderbird?), newsserver) And do you use the chroot? (and how well does it work?)05:57
dataw0lf|wI wouldn't know.  The only time I ever use a Windows machine at all is at work, and I barely use the KVM switch to go to my work windows box unless I need to test an app or something.05:57
karljpok, anyone know why javax.sound.sampled.LineUnavailableException: Audio Device Unavailable05:58
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karljp happens?05:58
RodeoBlorkhello05:58
karljpmy java apps can't play sound05:58
grumpysmurflets see... I use  Firefox, Thunderbird, Totem, Rhythmbox so far.05:58
RodeoBlorkcrimsun: hello05:58
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grumpysmurfkarljp probably because the java isn't using the ESD sound daemon.05:58
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lambichi, I'm planning on installing ubuntu on an un-connected pc at the weekend, how much does the installation process rely on the internet?05:59
karljpany ideas on how to change that?05:59
grumpysmurfdesktop and/or kernel people need to sort out all this alsa, esd, oss sound business if they think Linux is going to be ready for the generic desktop user.05:59
karljpthey do indeed :)05:59
karljpbut at least I cna play music out of the box05:59
karljpthat never used to work.05:59
grumpysmurflambic the installation tries to update via apt after the system boots the first time05:59
dr_willisseems like alsa is slowly winning that contest05:59
grumpysmurfkarljp thats a good thing.05:59
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grumpysmurfdr_willis if they make it consistent and it works, then that'd be a good start.06:00
dr_willisive had little problems with sound at all in the last 2+ years.06:00
blueyedlambic, it will work (I had to run pppoeconf manually after the install to get connected)06:00
karljpit's soooo much further along than it was,06:00
dr_willisI do tend to buy actual creative cards however.06:00
RodeoBlorkcrimsun: I read a post in which someone mentions you for having solved his headset issue06:00
grumpysmurfkarljp i don't know much about java, so i don't know how to tell it to use ESD.06:00
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lambicgreat, thanks06:00
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dr_willisactually dosent 'esd'  use alsa?06:00
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SWAT_grumpysmurf, from a scale of 1 to 10. * How satisfied are you with your Ubuntu64? ** How much of you is power user? ;-)06:01
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RodeoBlorkdr_willis: how do I run Skype directly with ALSA or OSS emulation ?06:02
RodeoBlorkdr_willis: and not with artsd06:02
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dr_willisRodeoBlork,  intereesting question. no clue however. I cant recall ever running skype.06:03
grumpysmurfSWAT_ i don't know if i'm a power user... i support linux professionally and have used it in my spare time for 10 years... ;) I'm quite pleased with Ubuntu64, minus the flash inconvenience.06:03
RodeoBlorkDoes anyone know how to set an audio usb headset in linux ?06:03
RodeoBlorkdr_willis: arf06:03
dr_willisRodeoBlork,  usb headset - would be an interesting thing also. :P ive had minimal luck with them under Windows even.06:03
dr_willisthey work good on my PS2 however.06:04
RodeoBlorkdr_willis: lol06:04
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Valentin-hey, is it possible to install just a base system of ubuntu without any addins06:04
dr_willisI rember years ago when 'usb speakers' were to be the next big thing... it never happened.06:04
RodeoBlorkdr_willis: under windows, it comes packaged with a driver yet06:04
Valentin-just the desktop system06:05
dr_willisRodeoBlork,  i was useing the one from SOCOM  -  i cant rember how i got it working under windows.06:05
dr_willisValentin-,  install the 'server' option - then install just what you want I guess.06:05
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dr_willisRodeoBlork,  hmmm - doing some quick googling --> http://kennethhunt.com/archives/001195.html06:07
karljpis java1.5 much faster than 1.4?06:07
karljprunning this .jar file is a pig on ubuntu, but works quite acceptably fast on windows06:07
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holycowkarljp, that has been what i read yes06:07
dr_willisRodeoBlork,  not much said at the site however. :P06:07
SQL_Samhey all, i dont think i have swat available can someone help?  I went into synaptic and couldnt find any package named swat06:08
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holycowthey did some kind of audit for 1.5 and found that each even spawned hundreds of micro events06:08
holycowso the net result is that java isn't slow, it was their virtual machine implementation being buggy06:08
dr_willisSQL_Sam,  you dont have all the repositiories added I think. I see it with 'apt-cache search'06:08
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dr_willisSQL_Sam,  i am useing the etc/apt/sources.list  from 'ubuntuguide.org06:09
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dr_willisswat - Samba Web Administration Tool06:09
dr_willisyou could also use 'webmin' to admin your samba shares . its nicer in some ways then swat06:09
grumpysmurfi admin my samba server with ssh and vi.06:10
grumpysmurf:D06:10
SQL_Sami get the following...06:10
SQL_Sammatt@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache show swat06:10
SQL_SamW: Unable to locate package swat06:10
SQL_SamE: No packages found06:10
SQL_Sammatt@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache search swat06:10
SQL_SamPassword:06:10
SQL_Samsamba - a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix06:10
SQL_Sammatt@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-cache show swat06:10
SQL_SamW: Unable to locate package swat06:10
SQL_SamE: No packages found06:10
karljpholycow, so I'm being a bit dense today, but do you m ean 1.5 is meant to be much faster than 1.4?06:10
karljpor that 1.5 is still slow?06:10
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AirWaysAmmmm... when I am installing Ubuntu, it says something as: "No network found" or something like that... But there is Network card in my computer, and it is connected to ADSL router... whats wrong?06:10
dr_willisSQL_Sam,  i am useing the etc/apt/sources.list  from 'ubuntuguide.org     --   what sources list are you uyseing.06:10
SQL_Samthe reason i wanted swat is that i was having trouble getting it started06:10
AirWaysThat works that network card06:10
holycow1.5 is fast, 1.4 slow, at least thats what i've read06:10
dr_willistrouble getting samba started?06:11
karljpcool06:11
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karljpI'll have to fiddle with getting 1.5 installed06:11
karljpseems to be a bit of a fiddle on hoary, so I may just put it off for a week or two and let someone else work out packages for me while I wait06:11
karljpdon't suppose you know how to tell java what sound device to use?06:11
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MachineScrewhow long has any one waited for the Ubuntu cd to come06:12
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SQL_Samwaiting over a week06:12
RodeoBlorkdr_willis: sounds interesting as it reviews the same model i got06:12
holycowMachineScrew, about 10 minutes to download via torrent06:12
holycow>_>06:12
SQL_Sami ended up downloading if off the web06:13
ctquclwho want to learning chinese?welcome to #ubuntu-zh06:13
SQL_Samafter 10 times it finally worked06:13
djm6210 years...is that pre-1.0?06:13
karljp10 minutes from torrent?06:13
RodeoBlorkcrimsun: are you online ?06:13
karljpjesus, what's your downstream?06:13
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dr_willisRodeoBlork,  yea. I need a new headset for work. I like the Noise Cancleation featuress of my old ones. :P (not usb however)06:13
MachineScrewOk i am stuck with a CD burrner that can't write to any media rated higher than 16x and for some reson CD-RWs don't work06:13
holycowctqucl, don't you mean #ubuntu-ch?06:13
djm62does he?06:14
ctquclzh06:14
holycowweird06:14
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MachineScrewso how long shiping has any one had to wait06:14
ctquclubuntu-zh   zhong guo06:14
RodeoBlorkdr_willis: hum. I believe the model I bought features it06:14
djm62latin transliteration of chinese for china06:14
holycowah! ;) maybe i need to learn chinese :)06:14
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ctquclif you want06:14
dr_willisRodeoBlork,  or course I just use mine to listen to the dvd player at work.06:14
RodeoBlorkdr_willis: i never tried a headset before06:14
RodeoBlorkdr_willis: its usefull in winter :-)06:15
IIIEarsHow do i install DeCSS2?06:15
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RodeoBlorkdr_willis: i imagine06:15
ctquclbye06:16
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MachineScrewso has any one had to wait06:17
MachineScrewfor the cds to be shiped06:17
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SQL_Samokay who can help mewith my samba stuff....  i get the following error when running testparm and i figure i just need to update my smb.conf file......06:17
SQL_Sammatt@ubuntu:~$ sudo testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf06:17
SQL_SamLoad smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf06:17
SQL_SamProcessing section "[homes] "06:17
SQL_SamProcessing section "[printers] "06:17
SQL_SamProcessing section "[print$] "06:17
SQL_Samparams.c:Section() - Empty section name in configuration file.06:18
SQL_Samparams.c:pm_process() - Failed.  Error returned from params.c:parse().06:18
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karljpdarkaudit: dvd quality06:19
karljpthere really is a difference between the 50 for $1 on a spindle and some of the branded ones.06:20
simrachello all, does somebody use Gnotify?06:20
SQL_Samwhat does everyone think of not having a root account?06:20
dr_williscomment out/edit/delete that emtoy section I am guessing.06:20
dr_willisthere is a root account. :P06:20
dr_willisits just sort-of-locked-down a little.06:20
dataw0lf|wSQL_Sam: post your smb.conf in pastebin or something.06:20
SQL_Samyah i see what your saying, but I think it's easier06:20
dataw0lf|w(or priv it to me)06:20
SQL_Samto mess with isnt it06:21
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dr_willisi dont find it any easier :P more secure yes.. but then again - i disable that 'feature' anyway. so it works the same as all the other distros i am used to06:21
SQL_Sambut any user can just use there password to get su rights - right?06:22
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grumpysmurfcorrect.06:22
hksduhi, I have a 4 button mouse, how do I configure my thumb button for firefox to "go back"?06:23
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grumpysmurfhksdu there's a howto for that on ubuntuforums.org06:23
grumpysmurfhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2837406:23
SQL_Samim in vi with my smb.conf file how do i cut and paste - lol yes i'm a noob06:24
hksdugrumpysmurf, thanks06:24
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karljp(you don't need to install imwheel)06:26
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thorNIs there any reason why a LiveCD would ask for a username/password?06:26
xerxes1358Hello06:26
thorNMy friend's Hoary LiveCD (downloaded today) is apparently acting strange06:26
karljp(just the ->explorerPS2, zaxismapping, and xmodmap all work.06:26
xerxes1358Does ubuntu uses debian's real apt repositery or only the apt technology ? (e.g. apt4rpm)06:27
flodineanyone know how to unlock k3b for burning06:27
dr_willisfloater,  k3b is just a front end to the console based burning tools I beluve06:27
mainerthorN:yes,don't woryy,its normal06:27
jnkyeah06:27
dr_willisoops flodine06:27
dr_willis:P06:27
flodinewhat do i do06:27
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admxSo far so good.... Really starting to like Ubuntu better then Suse & Fedora06:28
grumpysmurfxerxes1358 you can use debian repositories06:28
dr_willisflodine,  not idea. :P not sure what you are doing.06:28
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dr_willisadmx,  i likeit better then those also.06:28
flodineit wont let me burn06:28
k-otikdoes anybody know how to change the default directory in vsftp?06:28
flodinesays cd locked06:28
jnkxerxes1358, ubuntu uses a modified version of debian repositories06:28
xerxes1358grumpysmurf, I can or does ubuntu use that by default06:28
dr_willisflodine,  it may be saying the cd drive is mounted/locked.06:28
grumpysmurfxerxes1358 "You can"06:28
xerxes1358jnk, how large and up to date is this repositery ?06:28
xerxes1358grumpysmurf, is this hard ? why ubuntu uses its own repositery if I may ask06:29
jnkxerxes1358, the stable ubuntu release (every six months) takes debian unstable (sid), plus some other repositories (such as Marillat). So it's both up to date and very huge06:29
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xerxes1358forgive my ignorance I am new to ubuntu (gentoo user)06:29
jnkxerxes1358, (that is, if you enable the "universe" repository)06:29
admxStill having a little trouble with Airsnort06:29
grumpysmurfwow... i've noticed a number of gentoo users switching to Ubuntu, or at least becoming interestd in it... why is that?06:30
jnkxerxes1358, (something like 10'000+ packages)06:30
k-otikdoes anyone here use vsftpd?06:30
dr_willisgrumpysmurf,  they just like to change disrtos a lot? :P06:30
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xerxes1358jnk that sounds really good06:31
jnkit is06:31
xerxes1358jnk too good to be true maybe ? lol06:31
SeamusLPxerxes1358:  Ubuntu has three repositories, main restricted universe and mltiverse.  Add all of those to your sources.list or in synaptic if you want a large collection of packages.06:31
jnkxerxes1358, lol06:31
SeamusLPgrumpysmurf:  I was a gentoo user06:31
sadhi all, how to change my screen resolution in ubuntu?06:31
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jnkgnome-display-properties (accessible trhough menus)06:31
dr_willisubuntuguide.org - has details on adding repositiories.. and MUCH more.. its a site well worth reading/bookmarking.06:31
xerxes1358I love gentoo. Except the compile times drive me nuts06:32
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dr_willisxerxes1358,  thats what a bank of machines running distcc is good for. :P06:32
sobersabrehi guys. if anybody wonders what was wrong with my evolution ( not seeing messages ).06:32
xerxes1358SeamusLP, will they work seamlessly together though ?06:32
SeamusLPgrumpysmurf:  Gentoo is nice, but there are very few binary packages.06:32
sobersabrethe prob was with mutt. i also used mutt on that imap server, and it wiped all messages from my mailbox in /var/mail06:33
Valentin-dr_willis how is the package called for the base system?06:33
sobersabreso each time i opened mutt, evolution stopped showing the messages.06:33
xerxes1358how does ubuntu's rc work ? is it like gentoo's maybe ? (since gentoo's was inspired by Debian and FreeBSD)06:33
Amaranthrc?06:33
sobersabreValentin-, ubuntu-base06:33
sobersabre?06:33
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sobersabrexerxes1358, all infra-structure of ubuntu is Debian06:33
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SeamusLPxerxes1358:  Yeah.  In your repositories under synaptic just add universe and multiverse after main restricted06:34
SQL_Sami've used hat hat (was 4 years ago) i really like ubuntu so far as i'm a noob - seems pretty sweet06:34
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sobersabreSQL_Sam, 4 years and you're still newbie  ?06:34
SQL_Samlol - i mean 'used it 4 years ago'06:35
karljpjust because you use something a long time ago doesn't mean yo've used it in between :)06:35
SQL_Samfor a few months06:35
grumpysmurfsobersabre i've been using linux for 10 years and i'm still a newbie.06:35
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karljpyeah, what grumpy said06:35
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dataw0lf|wI've been using Linux for 7 years and I'm not a newbie06:35
grumpysmurfthough most of my linux use over the last 6 years has been on servers, not desktops, so my newbieness is in desktop use.06:35
SQL_Samthink i was version 6 or something in red hat06:35
dataw0lf|whave you changed that directive I told you to, SQL_Sam?06:36
SQL_Samtried installing fedora 3 core06:36
sobersabregrumpysmurf, i don't consider myself a newbie... though i do have sometimes lazy questions. i'm on linux since 98... how much is this... 7 years ?06:36
Prof_FrinkI've been using Linux for about 4 days. I _really_ am a newbie06:36
grumpysmurfsobersabre roughly06:36
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grumpysmurfProf_Frink :D06:36
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Valentin-sobersabre: and ubuntu-desktop is bundle with openoffice and things like that?06:36
dataw0lf|wI've been using Linux as my primary desktop since 98.06:36
dr_willisit pays to read and read and read. :P06:36
dataw0lf|wServer stuff on and off (love hate relationship between Unix and Linux) since 97.06:36
grumpysmurfwindows is still my primary desktop.  i don't have time to make it play games. ><06:37
dataw0lf|weh, I don't play games.06:37
xerxes1358are there also pictures of Kubuntu ?06:37
admxI have been using Linux for about 7 years also dataw0lf, watch it keep getting better and better.06:37
Prof_FrinkActually, that's not true, I had played with Knoppix a bit before that06:37
dr_willisxerxes1358,  its kde. :P so look at kde.org06:37
grumpysmurfdataw0lf|w i hate solaris :)06:37
dataw0lf|wI hate Tru64.06:37
dataw0lf|wSolaris is a walk on the beach comparatively.06:37
sobersabreValentin-, ubuntu-desktop is everything ubuntu guys thought of should be in the desktop. it is gnome-based, oo/oo2 + some utils.06:37
grumpysmurflol true06:37
Fackamatosomething wrong with the repositories servers?06:37
Fackamatomy update stops06:37
Fackamato http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages [490kB] 06:37
Fackamato7% [5 Packages 1156/490kB 0%] 06:38
dataw0lf|wI like BSD for home server stuff, or Debian.06:38
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dataw0lf|wand here at work I have a couple Debian servers, and a couple RH servers.06:38
sobersabredataw0lf, Tru64 is hp's unix ?06:38
dataw0lf|wbut mostly Unix.06:38
xerxes1358dr_willis, I mean ubuntu has very good itegration with gnome like you see on this website: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=99 Does Kubuntu has that too ?06:38
dataw0lf|wsobersabre: HP/Compaq06:38
dr_willisFackamato,  they are working for me.06:38
admxDoes anyone know when OOo 2.0 will be released06:38
sobersabredataw0lf, is it POSIX compliant ?06:38
dr_willisxerxes1358,  its very well done also. :P useing it now.06:38
dataw0lf|wsobersabre: Indeed.06:38
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holycowadmx, june/july at last estimate, they don't have enough people working on it06:38
dataw0lf|wsobersabre: It's mainly used for enterprise storage, AdvFS == great for that.06:39
admxthanks06:39
grumpysmurfhttp://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=306&slide=29&title=kubuntu+5.04+final+screenshots ?06:39
sobersabredataw0lf, isn't emc^2 good enough ?06:39
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dataw0lf|wheh.06:39
grumpysmurfxerxes1358 see the link i pasted for some kubuntuuuuu ;)06:40
Fackamatodr_willis: allright, my ISP then06:40
sobersabredataw0lf, i also don't understand... why would i invest money in os for storage, when i have a storage without giving a f*** about which os it runs ?06:40
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xerxes1358http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=306&slide=306:40
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xerxes1358grumpysmurf, ah yes thanks :)06:40
sobersabregood morning, RexM06:40
grumpysmurf:)06:41
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RexMgood morning :)06:41
RexMit's only 11:45 AM :)06:41
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sobersabreadmx, why won't you check on openoffice.org...06:41
xerxes1358grumpysmurf, nice icons in kde :)06:41
RexMi made it up before the great PM switch06:41
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sobersabregrumpysmurf, how do you prepare screenshot of debinst ?06:43
admxJust was reading about it in Linux Format Mag, Looked at the beta.06:43
sobersabrewith LCD + digital camera ?06:43
karljpor a crt and actual camera skills :)06:44
karljpyou know how sudo asks for a password, then if you do something again in that shelll, it doesn;t, does this have a timeout?06:44
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xerxes1358grumpysmurf, I dont see the update manager like in Ubuntu. Is there in KDE too ?06:45
sobersabrekarljp, imho it is tunable.anyway: look in pam.d + man sudoers06:45
bad_mongoahh.. kubuntu doesn't reach ubuntu to their knees..06:46
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karljpI don't really care, I'm single user, I was just curious06:46
XplOzIonhi all06:46
ampersandhi06:46
XplOzIoni still cant extrack my rar files =(06:47
IIIEarstimeout = 15mins - ubuntu wiki06:47
bad_mongoXplOzIon, have you installed unrar?06:47
SQL_Samomg i hate vi....06:47
fsapohi all.. is there a way to know wich process is acessing the cdrom drive? i have a cd stuck and it cant umount... i ve already closed the X and nothing changes...06:47
karljpyou know, wikis' are great, but finding stuff in them can suck so hard06:47
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XplOzIonbad_mongo, i have rar installed via apt-get install rar06:47
karljpand the ubuntu wiki is a particularly bad example unfortunately06:48
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karljpwhoah, java1.5 is much faster than 1.406:48
XplOzIonbad_mongo, sudo rar -e filename.rar shoul work to extrack right?06:48
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xerxes1358karljp, yeah it is . You didnt know ? :)06:49
karljpwell, holycow told me06:49
karljpbut I wasn't sure just how much better it would be.06:49
j^3Can anyone point me to instructions on adding things to the menu in Ubuntu?06:49
bad_mongoXplOzIon, what happens if you double klick on the file?06:49
SeamusLPkarljp:  Got any benchmarks?06:49
xerxes1358karljp, yeah. I use it for all the apps I develop06:49
karljpbenchmarks? god know, just anecdotally, I have a single java app that I use.06:49
motoboij^3, ubuntuguide.org06:50
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karljpand I just dpkg -P'd 1.4 anyway06:50
xerxes1358SeamusLP, try Eclipse in 1.4.2 and 1.5 You will notice :)06:50
j^3motoboi: thanks, I'll check it06:50
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danthemani was using eclipse in java 1.4.2 until a couple weeks ago...i switched to 1.5, and it feels like it flies now06:51
SeamusLPHey guys, in related news, gcc 4.0 is out and it's supposed to give C++ a 40% performance boost.  Good for you kde users I suppose ;)06:51
SeamusLPAlso there are some optimizations that are supposed to speed up C as well -- so you may even notice a difference in gnome.06:51
XplOzIonbad_mongo, just installed unrar and double click works now :)06:52
sobersabreSeamusLP, this 40% sounds ... too much.06:52
xerxes1358SeamusLP, why you so mean to us KDE users lol06:52
fsapoplease.. is there a way to know wich process is acessing the cdrom drive? i have a cd stuck and it cant umount... i ve already closed the X and nothing changes...06:52
xerxes1358SeamusLP, you will only notice real difference when you build GCC4 with GCC4 !06:53
SeamusLPErr, sorry, the filesize will be 40% smaller06:53
SeamusLPthat should translate into a fairly decent performance increase06:53
SeamusLPAnd since kde is written in C++...06:53
xerxes1358so you build the GCC with 3.x then when you have GCC4 you rebuild GCC4 and then rock on06:53
SQL_Samin  vi how do i save and quit!!06:54
sobersabreSeamusLP, wtf are you talking about...  sorry for roughness.06:54
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bad_mongoXplOzIon, that's good ;)06:54
sobersabreSeamusLP, what is the connection between file size and the performance ?06:54
SeamusLPsobersabre:  GCC 4.0 is out.  It has great optimizations for C++.  This translates into a faster KDE.06:54
xerxes1358SQL_Sam, press escape then press :  then press q! enter06:54
xerxes1358SQL_Sam, read a vi short guide.06:55
SeamusLPsobersabre:  Boot times?  KDE does take a little while to boot.06:55
sobersabreSeamusLP, it is fine.. just don't through such excessive numbers06:55
SQL_Sami'm trying06:55
SeamusLPsobersabre:  I said 40% smaller libraries :P that's not a made-up number06:55
xerxes1358mostly a bit larger compilations have a bit faster result06:55
sobersabreSeamusLP Hey guys, in related news, gcc 4.0 is out and it's supposed to give C++ a 40% performance boost.  Good for you kde users I suppose ;)06:56
SeamusLPsobersabre:  Did I not correct myself?06:56
sobersabreSeamusLP Err, sorry, the filesize will be 40% smaller06:56
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sobersabremy filesize ? lib filesize ? installer's file size ? gcc's filesize ?06:56
sobersabrei am pest. i know06:57
SeamusLPsobersabre:  lib filesize.06:57
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SeamusLPsobersabre:  This should improve startup times :P06:57
sobersabreSeamusLP, if all the system is built upon this gcc. can it link with older libs ?06:58
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sobersabreabout that i will ask the dox, i guess.06:58
SeamusLPsobersabre:  Supposedly.  I compiled a few programs with GCC4 and had no problems with the old libraries.  But by no means did I test this extensively.06:58
mjrin related news, is the c++ abi compatible with 3.x?06:59
EssobiUmm. is apt-get install libncurses5-dev broken for anyone else?06:59
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mjrSeamusLP, C++ programs, spesifically?06:59
RodeoBlorkcrimsun: are you back ?06:59
SeamusLPmjr:  The programs I compiled were in C06:59
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xerxes1358btw how is the firewall setup in ubuntu ? does ubuntu come with pre configured firewall like FC and SUSE for example ?06:59
EssobiE: Package libncurses5-dev has no installation candidate06:59
sobersabreSeamusLP, you know what major ver. number change in gcc means to the system ?06:59
mjrSeamusLP, righto, well, the C ABI is a lot more stable than the C++ one has been06:59
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EssobiI'm wondering if my apt-get cache isn't pissed up..07:00
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mishofI've installed a new kernel (2.6.10) but when it comes up X wont start because it seems the kernel doesnt have Nvidia support. what can i do?07:00
Fackamatoxerxes1358: no, because there is absolutely no need for one. there are no server installed on a default ubuntu installation.07:00
SeamusLPsobersabre, mjr:  You guys should check out #ubuntu-motu, those guys in there have more experience compiling with GCC4.  They've been doing it for about a month now.07:00
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sobersabrethanks, SeamusLP07:00
xerxes1358Fackamato, I will run sshd for sure07:01
xerxes1358Oh well guess I will have to use firestarter then07:01
SeamusLPsobersabre:  It's a requirement, you know, since breezy will be 100% gcc4 from what I've heard ;)07:01
mishofhmmm you guys ?07:02
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ringmauerwhat shall I write in shell insted of space?07:02
ringmauerinstead i mean07:02
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ringmauerplease someone?07:03
danthemanringmauer: what are you trying to do in the shell?07:03
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mishofI've installed a new kernel (2.6.10) but when it comes up X wont start because it seems the kernel doesnt have Nvidia support. what can i do?07:06
ringmauerim trying to open  $ nano /home/ringmauer/my docs/phonelist.txt07:06
ringmauerwhat should i write instead of space?07:06
mishofringmauer, instead of " " use "\ "07:06
Ocidmishof: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto07:06
grumpysmurfmishof you'll need the nvidia binary driver07:06
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ringmauerso i can write $ nano /home/ringmauer/my/docs/phonelist.txt?07:06
karljpor use tab completion and it will work for you07:06
danthemanwhat i would do is $ cd /home/ringmauer07:07
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dantheman$ cd "my docs"07:07
karljpno, /home/ringmauer/my\ docs/phonelist07:07
danthemanand that'll get you there07:07
ringmauerdantheman: thats smart07:07
Olsenmiscz_, use the 'nv' driver and then install the 'nvidia' driver again?07:07
i3dmasteranyone knows how to configure the mozilla/firefox UI font?07:07
mishofringmauer, /home/rungmaur/my\ docs/....07:07
ringmauerokay07:07
karljpor just nano ~/my[tab] 07:07
ringmauermany answers, thank you sooo much07:07
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mishofyup .. tab is always fun07:07
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karljpor nano "~/my docs/phonelist.txt"07:07
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ringmauerit doesnt work07:09
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ringmauerinstead of " " what should i write?07:09
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ringmauer"\ " doesnt work07:09
SQL_Samim trying to copy my smb.config file so if i screw it up it will have the original - i get the following....07:09
SQL_Sammatt@ubuntu:/etc/samba$ cp smb.conf smb.config-copy07:09
SQL_Samcp: cannot create regular file `smb.config-copy': Permission denied07:09
grumpysmurfSQL_Sam use sudo07:10
OcidSQL_Sam: sudo cp smb.conf smb.config-copy07:10
SQL_Sammatt@ubuntu:/etc/samba$ sudo cp smb.config smb.config-copy07:10
SQL_SamPassword:07:10
SQL_Samcp: cannot stat `smb.config': No such file or directory07:10
grumpysmurfsmb.conf ?07:10
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SQL_Sammy samba config file07:12
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jintxoSQL_Sam, what I think he meant is that the file is smb.conf, not smb.config :-)07:13
SabatorI require assistance07:13
grumpysmurfyeah07:13
SabatorI was trying to install a .flac plugin to xmms07:13
SQL_Samsorry your are correct07:13
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grumpysmurfsorry i'm being terse.07:13
Sabatorand I think I failed07:13
crimsunSabator: apt-get install xmms-flac07:13
Sabatorand now whenever Ubuntu makes a sound it sounds really shitty and fuzzy07:13
Sabatorlike the gaim sounds etc07:14
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grumpysmurfgood luck SQL_Sam i gotta run07:14
SQL_Samthanks07:14
SabatorEverything sounds crappy, really07:15
Sabatoris there a way to reinstall sound drivers?07:15
crimsunSabator: try rebooting07:15
SabatorI just did07:15
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SQL_Sam-rw-r--r--  1 root root 7830 2005-04-21 21:42 smb.conf07:15
crimsunSabator: what have you changed from the default install?07:16
Sabatorfar too much :)07:16
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crimsunwhat, sound-related, have you changed?07:16
Sabatorbut nothing to do with sound except this plugin07:16
crimsunthe xmms plugin? what did you install and to where?07:16
SabatorI also just ran a test, it seems when I'm playing a video and it's fine07:16
SQL_Samwhy would it give me an error?07:17
SabatorI got the xmms plugin off Synaptic earlier, but xmms still refused to play the files07:17
crimsunSQL_Sam: what are you trying to do?07:17
SQL_Samnever mind07:18
SQL_Samgot it07:18
SQL_Sam-duh07:18
AkaiAmeHi, question: i have a  networking class, we are supposed to set up a server with dhcp and dns functionality... teacher says we are supposed to install windows server but that takes so long when we just want to test something, so i was wondering if there is any live distro that i can use.. i mean i know knoppix has dhcp server but is there something that has apache and dns, and snmp (query) functionality too? maybe a packet sniffer too.. and all07:18
AkaiAmewith a nice gui for non cli people?07:18
Sabatorxmms sounds like shit now when I'm playing mp3s07:18
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crimsunSabator: ok, I don't think we're asking the same things.07:19
flodinea guys i tryed burning with k3b as root but still says cdrom locked07:19
flodinewhats the problem here07:19
holycowas much as i love gstreamer, totem gstreamer is very laggy07:19
crimsunSabator: can you play mp3s?07:19
Sabatoryes07:19
crimsunSabator: and how do they sound?07:19
Sabatornot .flacs for some reason07:19
Sabatormp3s sound shitty07:19
Sabatorlike, fuzzy and staticy07:19
AkaiAmeor can someone point me to an irc room for such stupid noob question?07:19
Sabatorso does Ubuntu itself, as in gaim and the beep things07:20
crimsunSabator: what are your mixer volumes set at?07:20
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bluefoxicyis there a way to configure wireless interfaces in Ubuntu, like in Windows-- point and click a task tray icon?07:20
crimsunAkaiAme: e-smith?07:20
ivoksevery day i like ubuntu even more and more :)07:20
ringmauerhow do i do if i want to watch divX in ubuntu?07:20
crimsunit might have a new name07:20
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ivoksringmauer get xine07:20
crimsunringmauer: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:20
mishofomggg i cant believe i managed to compile my kernel! now my tablet works at last- thanks for help ! :)07:21
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ringmauershould i write in shell or in the browser?07:21
Prof_Frinkor vlc. vlc plays everything07:21
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ivokscrimsun are u part of ubuntu team?07:21
crimsunringmauer: web browser07:21
crimsunivoks: I'm a universe maintainer07:21
ivoksis anyone here part of ubuntu team or project?07:21
ringmaueri never installed anything in ubuntu before so im coming back for more help later07:21
ivokscrimsun nice07:21
ivokscrimsun i have one question regaring CUPS07:22
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ivokscrimsun if u would like to listen :)07:22
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crimsunivoks: sure I'll listen, but I'm not knowledgable w/ CUPS07:22
ivokscrimsun ok... well...07:22
ivokscrimsun everyting works fine, but if u plug in USB printer when cups is allready started it wouldn't detect it07:23
ivokscrimsun when i restart cups, everyting works...07:23
ivokscrimsun well, that's it :) i know u can't do anything about it, but it's a nice info07:23
crimsunivoks: if you're positive that's a bug, then please check bugzilla and report it :)07:23
ivoksi'm not positive it's a bug :)07:24
ivoksi'll have to investigatge that07:24
ivoksone g too much :)07:24
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ivokstoday i managed to get my suspend to ram work... wiki.ubuntu.com is great place07:24
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goldfishAmaranth: Why do you keep asking ppl to kick me?07:25
Amaranthgoldfish: ?07:25
AkaiAmeok thanks i'll check it out07:25
Amaranthgoldfish: It's the best way to wake people up.07:25
goldfishhmm...07:25
goldfish15:25 <Amaranth> SeamusLP: Kick goldfish for me, he broke something before he07:25
goldfish          went to bed.07:25
supposDoes anyone know if ubuntu can support SpeedTouch 330 Adsl modem? Plz, desperately need help!07:25
goldfishFor example.07:25
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Seveassuppos is that an ethernet or usb modem?07:26
supposusb07:26
Seveasthen i don't know07:26
Seveascheck the forum :)07:26
hksduhi, my totern doesn't play mpeg with sound, it plays the movie but it has no sound :(07:27
supposok.. tnx07:27
SeamusLPgoldfish, amaranth:  Wrong go1dfish guys ;)07:27
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karljpI get ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-00:1023 when I plug in a firewire harddrive, (in my syslog) anyone know wht would be causing that?07:27
AkaiAmecrimsun: what is the link for e-smith, http://www.e-smith.org/ sends me to Mitel OnLine.. is that right?07:28
goldfishhrmm...07:28
karljpand I don't get any /dev/hd* or /dev/sd* devices turning up either, so it's not working anyway07:28
goldfishAh right sorry :)07:28
ringmauerI cant understand how to install the DivX player? can anyone guide me?07:28
SeamusLPgoldfish:  go1dfish is my roommate with odd sleeping habits...07:28
goldfishlol07:28
goldfishSorry, just comes up highlighted on my screen as he spelt it goldfish.07:29
goldfishMy mistake :)07:29
ringmauerplease?07:29
goldfishemmm07:29
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SeamusLPringmauer:  Totem-xine will handle DivX quite well07:29
goldfishringmauer: IS it in the repos?07:29
goldfishVlc is quite good.07:29
hksduanyone?07:30
ringmauerbut how do i install totem-whine? i have never installed anything before (feeling soo noob) so i would really appreciate some help07:30
Chacalhi all07:30
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goldfishringmauer: www.ubuntuguide.org07:30
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flodinea guys i tryed burning with k3b as root but still says cdrom locked07:30
SeamusLPringmauer:  Is so simple!07:30
goldfishringmauer: you will need to add extra repositories i expect ringmauer.07:30
goldfishringmauer: That site is a good plpace to start.07:31
ringmaueryes thats the prob i think goldfish07:31
ringmauerbut www.ubuntuguide.org does it tells me everything i need to know?07:31
goldfishyep07:31
goldfishwell, it shows you how to add the repositories07:31
irbdavidhiya, i installed the win32 codecs package, but totem only seems to play the audio part of a file, and has a swirly sorta screensaver thing in the window07:31
Prof_Frinkthen just search in synaptic07:31
goldfishyep07:31
SeamusLPringmauer:  In linux you install things through apt-get or synaptic package manager under system -> administration07:31
Chacalwhere do I have to put the win32 codecs in order to use them with totem?07:32
SeamusLPringmauer:  Debian-based linux that is07:32
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MarkrianChacal, ~/.gnome2/totem-addons07:32
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Saint33Hi folks...07:32
goldfishhi07:32
Chacalgreat!! thanks a lot!!07:32
irbdavidany one got suggestions?07:32
goldfishirbdavid: did you put them in ~/.gnome2/totem-addons ?07:33
goldfish:)07:33
SeamusLPirbdavid:  Sounds like you're trying to load an audio file07:33
goldfishhmm07:33
holycowChacal, you don't, you just apt-get install w32codecs... they are installed for you07:33
goldfishignore me.07:33
crimsunAkaiAme: I believe it has a new name07:33
irbdavidnope, they're mpegs07:33
irbdavidgoldfish, yep07:33
SQL_Samhey got a question - in trying to edit my smb.conf file says i dont have access rights - what do i need to do?07:33
Saint33Is anyone here using a wireless setup and it's working ???07:33
holycowSQL_Sam, sudo gedit, smb.conf07:34
SeamusLPirbdavid:  What are you using to play them?  totem-xine?07:34
Chacalsudo vi smb.conf07:34
AkaiAmecrimsum: just noticed, is it: SME Server V5? ist it still free to download/07:34
OcidSaint33: sure07:34
crimsunAkaiAme: no idea, I just remember it being mentioned some years ago07:34
Saint33Ocid: how did u go about setting it up... thru Terminal or Network prefs ???07:34
irbdavidtotem07:34
sobersabreSaint33, r u still with non working wireless ? :-(07:34
b0olhm.. how to open a taskmanager like programm?07:34
OcidSaint33: network prefs07:34
sobersabreb0ol, what is taskmanager ?07:34
Saint33Ocid: I had a WinXP wireless setup, but when I get this to connect it stalls ubuntu and I need to reboot ... dunno why07:35
SeamusLPirbdavid:  Yes, but click on help -> about and tell me if you're using totem-xine or totem-gstreamer07:35
SQL_Sami use a comma?07:35
b0ol:> (i used windows before :> so im used to say taskmanager)07:35
SQL_Samcommand not found?07:35
sobersabreSaint33, which chipset is your card ?07:35
irbdavidtotem gstreamer07:35
b0oli dont know the name of the programm in linux07:35
ringmauergetting problems07:35
ringmauerringmauer@ubuntu:~$ gpg --keyserver wwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B90707:35
ringmauergpg: error creating keyring `/home/ringmauer/.gnupg/secring.gpg': Permission denied07:35
ringmauergpg: keyblock resource `/home/ringmauer/.gnupg/secring.gpg': file open error07:35
ringmauergpg: error creating keyring `/home/ringmauer/.gnupg/pubring.gpg': Permission denied07:35
ringmauergpg: keyblock resource `/home/ringmauer/.gnupg/pubring.gpg': file open error07:35
ringmauergpg: can't get key from keyserver: Permission denied07:35
irbdavidv0.8.907:35
ringmauergpg: Total number processed: 007:35
holycowbool easy, apps / system / system monitor07:35
b0ola programm where i can see all  apps and where i can kill all apps foricbly07:35
b0olforcibly07:35
] BreliC[SQL_Sam, no, don't use a comma07:35
b0olthnx07:35
AkaiAmecrimsum: thanks i found it: http://contribs.org/07:35
b0olwhats the shell command for that?07:35
] BreliC[SQL_Sam, 'sudo gedit smb.conf'07:36
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danthemanringmauer: try using sudo07:36
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SQL_Sammatt@ubuntu:/etc/samba$ sudu gedit smb.conf07:36
SQL_Sambash: sudu: command not found07:36
SeamusLPirbdavid:  If you want to play it in totem, you need to get the xine backend.  The package name is totem-xine.07:36
] BreliC[b0ol, 'ps -A'07:36
Ocidb0ol: ps -A07:36
b0olthnxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx07:36
irbdavidthanks SeamusLP07:36
] BreliC[b0ol, then 'kill <number>'07:36
b0olkk07:36
ringmauerit worked, thanks07:36
danthemanno problem07:37
Saint33I have the network prefs all setup for the ssid and wep password, but it wont work07:37
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Chacal"SUDO"!!07:37
Saint33when I sort that our using the terminal, it seems to work but stall my system07:37
Chacalsudo gedit smb.conf07:37
IIIEarskI am new so correct me - killall -9 "appname" or "PID#"07:37
] BreliC[SQL_Sam, it's sudo, not sudu ;)07:37
SQL_Samlol07:37
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IIIEarsthx B0ol07:37
OcidSaint33: what chipset?07:37
Beunohey, I just installed ubuntu hoary "server" version, and I cant connect to it from any PC on the lan07:37
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Beunowhat do I need to configure?07:37
b0ol?07:37
b0olwhat IIIEars ?07:37
] BreliC[Bueno, does it have sshd installed?07:38
ringmauernow ive added the repositores, what shall i do now+07:38
ringmauer?07:38
Saint33Ocid: Marvell w830007:38
Saint33it's an Asus WL-138g card07:38
BeunoBrelic: excelent question, looking....07:38
SQL_Sami was into my star trek daze i guess was thinkin of Sulu.....07:38
ChacalBeuno: ssh-server07:38
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IIIEarsJust getting around linux is hard - I have to learn everything again (windows handicapped)07:38
] BreliC[Bueno, it doesn't install it by default on the regular version, so i'm not sure about server, though you would think it would07:38
OcidSaint33: i think that somebody else was also fighting with that card with no success07:39
danthemanwhat does "Hibernate the computer" do?07:39
Beunoooooh07:39
ringmauerdantheman: repositores added, and now?07:39
Beunoyeah, I thought it did07:39
Beunoinstalling07:39
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danthemanringmauer: what are you trying to do?07:39
Beunodoes it come with all the ports and permissions open by default?07:39
Saint33Ocid:what card are you using ??07:39
Ocidringmauer: if in synaptic click reload07:39
OcidSaint33: 3com officeconnect07:39
Beunothere ya go07:39
Beuno: )07:39
BeunoIm in07:39
] BreliC[Bueno, then you'll have to add locations in /etc/exports to export07:39
] BreliC[ahh, good07:40
ringmauerinstall xine07:40
] BreliC[;)07:40
BeunoI dont understand why they left sshd out!07:40
ringmauerdantheman: install xine07:40
goldfishSo there is a server version of hoary?07:40
danthemansearch for gxine07:40
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] BreliC[Bueno, sorry, was thinking nfs.. nevermind my comment07:40
danthemanand mark it for installation, and hit apply07:40
Beunoyeah, goldfish, when installing, type: server07:40
Saint33Ocid: the ndiswrapper website says the card will work tho when setup... and so far it's setup and detected as a device... just cant get the bugger to connect07:40
SeamusLPIIIEars:  You'll pull through I'm sure.  Ubuntu has a great community and a load of howto guides on all types of subjects.07:40
Beunonp!07:40
Beunothanks07:40
sobersabrewhat do u guys mean "ubuntu server version" ?07:40
Beunooh07:40
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goldfishso it's still the saem iso?07:40
ringmauerdantheman: where should i search?07:40
goldfishyou just type in server?07:40
danthemandoes anyone have experience using a linksys wusb54g in ubuntu?07:40
Beunoand btw, while Im here, I using ubuntu here on my laptop, and it doesnt seem to configure my wireless and modem by default07:41
danthemanin synaptic07:41
Sionideit's when people use ubuntu as a server, rather than a desktop pc07:41
IIIEarsUbuntu is GREAT! :)   - the documentation is very good.07:41
Beunoany ideas where I can dig?07:41
ringmauerdantheman: im getting some errors when istalling updates,             Failed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  500 Internal Server Error07:41
ringmauerFailed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  500 Internal Server Error07:41
ringmauerE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:41
ringmauerE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:41
ringmauer07:41
sobersabreBeuno, what's "ububntu server"07:41
sobersabre ?07:41
Chacalyou need root privilegies to issue apt-get update07:41
fb2Hi guys, I have a question (having already googled with no results). I am trying out the livecd, and trying to mount my ntfs partition.  I can mount it successfully (running mount with sudo) but the normal user does not have access to the mounted device, I can only access it with sudo07:41
sobersabreringmauer, you run 2 instances of dpkg.07:41
Chacaltry: sudo apt-get update07:41
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goldfishBeuno: try searching ubuntuforums.org for the models maybe.....07:41
siganyone know why they took gmail-notify out of the repos?07:41
sigthat was a sweet program07:42
ringmauersobersabre: ok, and what should i do to stop one?07:42
OcidSaint33: i have never messed with ndiswraper, sry07:42
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Chacalfb2: you need to mount with -o mask=77707:42
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Saint33Ocid: np... this is a hard one to sort out...07:42
fb2thanks07:42
Beunosober: when installing hoary, you can choose to install the server version instead. I comes with all the gfx stripped out, around 300mb install07:42
sobersabrefb2, u need to change umask option to ... say to 007:42
Tuxicitysig, isnt there a Firefox Extension for gmail?07:42
johns^Does anybody knows if warty is still being updated?07:42
sigTuxicity: heh screw that07:42
sobersabreChacal, isn't it negged mask ?07:42
ringmauersobersabre? how to stop one?07:42
Chacalfb2: or -o uid=user,gid=group07:42
] BreliC[johns^, should be for another 12 months07:42
danthemansig: what do you use for gmail checking if not the firefox extension?07:42
johns^hm07:42
Ocidfb2: try umask=02207:43
sobersabreringmauer, did u run apt-get/aptitude/update manager/synaptic ?07:43
sigdantheman: because I hardly use firefox for one07:43
johns^haven't seen updates in a while07:43
danthemansig: but do you have something that checks gmail without having to open up the browser and log in?07:43
sigdantheman: I used to use gmail-notify07:43
crimsunjohns^: warty and hoary are updated only for security.07:43
danthemanwell, so did i07:43
johns^ah.07:43
danthemanbut that's not for linux07:43
johns^that sucks07:43
Beunoyou need to change it to "breezy" if you want updates07:43
sigdantheman: yes it is07:43
danthemanoh...i'm thinking gnotifier07:44
danthemanfor windows07:44
ringmauerno07:44
ringmauersobersabre, no07:44
Ociddantheman: gmail notifier extension for firefox07:44
sighttp://gmail-notify.sourceforge.net/07:44
Saint33Ocid: are you just sharing files over your wireless connection or the internet too ?07:44
ringmauersobersabre, what should i do now?07:44
OcidSaint33: nope, just browsing the net with it07:44
Chacalnegged?07:45
scottanyone had problems with ubuntu stalling up on a laptop after disconnecting it from ext power? mine stalls up after somewhere around 5 minutes07:45
Saint33Ocid: r u using Firestarter as a firewall ?07:45
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OcidSaint33: nope, i have a separate box for fw07:45
MarkrianI thought the whole idea of Ubuntu's releases being frozen was blindingly clear07:45
ringmauersobersabre, what should i do+07:45
Saint33Ocid: oh... np, just wondering07:46
MarkrianI have no idea why everyone keeps asking "Where are the updates?"07:46
Chacalscott: nopes... but I guess it could be a problem with the power-addon package (sorry, don't remember the name)07:46
sobersabreringmauer: pgrep dpkg and stop being so dependent and demanding.. cool down, its only a computer07:46
holycowMarkrian, people are idiots07:46
holycow*shrug*07:46
sigMarkrian: they will still release updates07:46
sigfixes, security etc...07:46
Markriansig, I know ;o07:46
sig<Markrian> I have no idea why everyone keeps asking "Where are the updates?"07:47
sigpretty dumb07:47
sigthere will be updates07:47
Markriansig, I know.07:47
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holycowsig, don't be pedantic, your deliberately misinterpreting the statement07:47
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ringmauersobersabre, sorry  i just feel so disorientated07:47
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johns^sig: I'm runningen a debian box also wich gets a lot more updates07:47
sigholycow: not really07:47
holycowyes really07:47
signegative turbo07:47
johns^so I was wandering if I misconfigured something07:48
johns^damn, wondering07:48
] BreliC[johns^, probably different packages installed so some require updates, others not.. ?  just a guess07:48
ringmauersobersabre, okay  pgrep dpkg, done, and now?07:48
] BreliC[with suse i got way more updates on the desktop than the lappy because of that reason07:48
karljpok, so I've switched to the right firewire port, and my firewire drive still isn't appearing as /dev/sdX07:48
karljpanyone with any ideas?07:48
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drspinI SOLVED MY DMA TROUBLE07:49
jesperIs it possible to install Ubuntu, by downloading the iso to harddrive and start from floppy?07:49
drspinoops - sorry for yelling...07:49
johns^] BreliC[: maybe. the debian box also runs servers07:49
karljpI don't have "sd" under block devices in /proc/devices07:49
karljpis that going to be a problem?07:49
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Fackamatohoi07:51
Fackamatocould someone point me to a default sources.list07:51
OcidFackamato: www.ubuntuguide.org07:51
Fackamatodoh ;P07:51
karljpI've got an external haddrive with both usb and firewire, and the usb works, automounts, lovely,07:52
drspindmesg |grep --invert-match Inbound07:52
drspin^^^^^ == Filters out all of the "Inbound" traffic from firestarter ;)07:52
karljpbut the firewire just puts ieee1394: sbp2: Error logging into SBP-2 device - login failed07:53
karljpsbp2: probe of 0050770e00071002-0 failed with error -1607:53
karljp in my dmesg07:53
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kammehello, is it normal that totem won't play movies/mp3's unless I'm connected to the internet?07:53
holycowkamme, no07:53
kammeok, so the next question is, what to do about it?07:54
kammewhen I start it using a terminal, it tells me it needs a network connection07:54
holycowdepends... by default totem-gstreamer is installed and its flaky still unfortunatley07:54
danthemani think i can't install gmail-notifier because my version of python is too recent....will installing an older version break things?07:54
kammewell, I installed totem-gstreamer because of those issues07:55
kammeso I got totem-xine07:55
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irbdavidwhere can i manually download a totem-xine package?07:55
jkkawhat do you think of textmaker?07:55
kammeI uninstalled totem-gstreamer, that is07:55
Mr_Tirbdavid, apt-get install totem07:55
Mr_Toh, wait07:56
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kammeirbdavid, use apt-get.org to look for it, then just type the url in your browser and search the package07:56
Mr_TI like gxine07:56
irbdavidthanks kamme07:57
tritiumirbdavid, apt-cache search xine07:57
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kammeSo do I, but I can't find it anymore07:57
Juhazdantheman, you think. based on what? python generally doesn't change that fast, nothing should break between 2.3 and 2.407:57
tritiumirbdavid, it's in universe07:57
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EssobiSo umm.. I want to build a kernel.. but I don't have ncurses5-dev available in apt-get.. anyone have an idea why?07:58
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danthemanalready closed the X and nothing changes...07:58
danthemankarljp you know, wikis' are great, but finding stuff in them can suck so hard07:58
dantheman* hksdu (~Andy@CPE000625de9d0e-CM400007:58
irbdavidmanually, as in not via synaptic.  connection way too slow to update all the lists (if it's anything like urpmi)07:58
danthemanwhoa...that's not what i wanted to paste at all07:58
LeokeESR value07:58
danthemanjuhaz: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gmail-notify:07:58
dantheman gmail-notify depends on python (<< 2.4); however:07:58
dantheman  Version of python on system is 2.4.1-0ubuntu2.07:58
Essobidantheman That's what google site: is for.07:58
Mr_Tanyone played with ndiswrapper for setting up wifi?07:59
karljpdantheman: yes, that's what I said :)07:59
Leokeit stops there07:59
Leokethe instal07:59
danthemankarljp: that stuff was said earlier, and i accidentally pasted the wrong stuff07:59
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karljphehe :)07:59
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Markrianirbdavid, apt is nothing like urpmi.07:59
danthemanjuhaz: that's my output from doing sudo dpkg -i gmail-notify-1.5.deb07:59
MarkrianFor a start, it's GOOD ;)07:59
Juhazdantheman, I see, looks like bad packaging to me instead of a real dependency, but hmm.07:59
karljpso, anyone know how to mount firewire harddrives?07:59
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Juhazdantheman, python 2.3 should install just fine parallel to 2.408:00
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EssobiCan someone pastebin their /etc/apt/sources.list, please?08:00
danthemanwell, i might be able to try installing it a different way08:00
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drspinEssobi: #flood08:00
Mr_TEssobi, I can upload it somewhere if you like08:00
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IIIEars(Wide Grin) Evolution email ROCKS!08:01
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karljpwhat does evo mail offer above thunderbird?08:01
mjrIIIEars, nah, it just sucks less :)08:01
OcidEssobi: http://www.pastebin.com/27464708:01
cyphaselater everyone08:02
IIIEarshm - good question - I haven't tried Thunderbird.08:02
mjrwell, it is more home at gnome08:02
EssobiThanks ocid08:02
jamin-hello everybody, I just got xvncviewer from the package manager, now where can I find it? I cant see it under applications...08:02
mjrgpg out of the box (yes, I know enigmail)08:02
SQL_SamWOO HOO got my samba working!!08:02
tiriankarljp: I've used evolution and thunderbird and I found thunderbird to be more stable.08:02
karljpiiie: what were yo uusing before evo mail then?08:02
mjrbut I suppose tb is not bad either08:02
SQL_Samthanks all08:02
tritiumkarljp, access to exchange servers08:03
karljpI'm extremely happy with tb, was just wondering08:03
sobersabre guys... anybody speaks brazilian portuguese in here ?08:03
DJ_Mirageel porto :?08:03
SQL_Samque?08:03
IIIEarsIt's worht a try :)08:03
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karljpman, firewire is weird08:04
karljpstick int eh firewire cable, errors, unplug, stick in usb cable, mounts, unplug, stick in firewire cable=>now it turns up08:04
EssobiOcid What's that nerim server in your list?08:05
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tritiumEssobi, Marillat's repo08:05
EssobiWho's what what?08:06
Essobi:)08:06
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tritiumEssobi, see here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:07
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Leokeyellow08:07
LeokeESR value before enabling vector: 000000208:07
kammeah, another question, what happend to the applications:/// handler? I can't edit my menu anymore08:08
Leokehow can I instal uvunto08:08
Leokeubunto for the first time is al already get this error08:08
Leokecan somoene help08:08
sobersabreSQL_Sam, can u answer in a query... if you don't mind... ?08:09
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holycowit's recommended to remove totem-gstreamer and install totem-xine, and then go to ubuntuguide.org and add the correct repository for w32codecs and install those because totem-xine uses those08:09
holycowhowever08:09
Essobitritium Ahhh, nice.08:09
holycowbefore doing all of that, you may wish to try installing gstreamer plugins because totem-gstreamer doesn't use w32codecs, it uses gstreamer plugins ... maybe something in there will fix your issue08:10
tritiumEssobi, found the info on Marillat?  :)08:10
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Essobitritium Ayup.08:11
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njs12345hmm08:15
njs12345if I've accidentally deleted conf files how can I get apt/dpkg to reinstall them?08:15
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tritiumnjs12345, which files?08:16
njs12345tritium: phpmyadmin and mysql conf files08:16
tritiumyou can always reinstall with apt-get install --reinstall08:17
njs12345tritium: you'd have thought that08:17
njs12345but you can't08:17
tritiumyou can, it's an option08:17
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njs12345tritium: hmm08:18
njs12345tritium: it wasn't working earlier, but it does now ;)08:18
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tritiumnjs12345, good08:20
Adyethsanyone happen to know when the ubuntu cd's are going to ship?08:20
njs12345Adyeths: it said mid april08:20
tritiumthere's also dpkg-reconfigure <packagename> to reconfigure things08:20
njs12345tritium: yeah08:21
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oysteinhow do i completly remove apache2?08:22
goldfishapt-get remove apache2 ?08:22
tritiumadd --purge to the end of that08:22
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XTCboarderdudes....what's this gizmo that seems to be a clone of mac's dock?08:23
oysteingoldfish: it dosent remove all the config files08:23
XTCboarderoystein use synaptic08:23
XTCboarderit's easier08:23
njs12345oystein: that's what purge does08:24
oysteinXTCboarder: i dont have x08:24
XTCboarderoh08:24
oysteinits a server08:24
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jupiterstehello08:24
XTCboarderanybody know this gizmo?08:24
Primalxtc, i'd like to know too08:24
Primalsaw a pic of that two days ago08:25
bluefoxicyis there a way to configure wireless interfaces in Ubuntu, like in Windows-- point and click a task tray icon?08:25
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njs12345bluefoxicy: not currently08:25
jupitersteI've been running ubuntu for a week or two, i'm new to linux, and about 2 hours the whole system becomes slow, windows stop moving, the mouse won't click anything08:25
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bluefoxicynjan:  fuck.08:25
XTCboarderi'll keep searhing.... and let ya know08:25
jupitersteCtrl-Alt-Backspace doesn't seem to work08:25
tritiumbluefoxicy, you might take a look at netapplet08:26
njs12345bluefoxicy: try System->Administration->Networking though08:26
bluefoxicytritium:  that hting that flashes 2 monitors on gnome's panel?08:26
] BreliC[yeah, that seems to configure all network connections08:26
tritiumbluefoxicy, no08:26
JDigitalHello folks. I have Ubuntu, how do I share files on a Windows network, such that people on my Windows network can access some of my stuff?08:26
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njs12345JDigital: you could try this08:27
njs12345sudo apt-get install apache208:27
goldfishemmm08:27
bluefoxicynjs12345:  I can just use ifconfig but :/ It's hard to pitch Linux when it's like "you have to do some ass like go into Admin->stuff->system->networking click the interface add your IP and do stuff. . ." rather than "Click the Wireless Networks applet here and it'll list all your wireless cards and let you plug into any network they find"08:27
tritiumJDigital, with samba08:27
] BreliC[JDigital, through Samba08:27
njs12345yes, samba is one way08:27
JDigitalI'm trying Samba, but I can't seem to get it to work.08:27
tritiumbluefoxicy, install netapplet08:27
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njs12345but that involves setting things up08:27
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JDigitalI'm not putting up a webserver.08:27
njs12345oh08:27
bluefoxicytritium:  searching.08:27
njs12345well, samba then08:28
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|QuaD-JDigital: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver08:28
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JDigitalok, I'll try that08:29
] BreliC[bluefoxicy, i understand what you're saying.. but people have to stop being afraid of a command line because a lot of time, it's actually simpler and makes more sense than using a gui08:29
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njs12345] BreliC[: for nerds, yes.. but Joe is _never_ going to use a command line08:29
bluefoxicybrelic:  i'm thinking of people with more intelligence than a mac user but less than a typical linux user.08:29
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] BreliC[njs12345, heh, true, but if my wife can figure it out (who is not a computer nerd) than others can too08:30
] BreliC[it's just a matter of effort i guess08:30
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dr_williseffort and the ability to 'think' - lacking these days... thanks Bill G. :P08:30
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audisexcuse me, how can I change the hdd spindown time in ubuntu?08:30
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] BreliC[dr_willis, well said08:30
Primaljdigital, still around?08:30
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dr_willisHmm... Justgot the latest Opera.. its not seeing any of my printers... sould i just keep reinstalling it? (windows mentality) :P08:31
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tritiumaudis, look at the docs for hdparm08:31
bckhello guys, i really like ubuntu, but one thing i really don't understand is: where is "alsaconf"?08:31
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] BreliC[i'm almost ready to ditch the SuSE installation on the desktop.. i've switched to ubuntu on the laptop, but just making sure there are no hiccups08:31
hypnoaudis /etc/hdparm.conf08:31
Zenyo all.. i know this is a bit of a silly question but say i have a .tar.gz file and i want to install the contents.. how do i do it?08:31
JDigitalI'm still around.08:31
] BreliC[dr_willis, but firefox sees it?08:32
audisi have tried using hdparm, ill check the .conf file now, thanks08:32
JDigitalhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver tells me how to install samba and smbfs. That's all. :(08:32
Primaljdigital, if you are using xp home, you might not be able to get the two to play nice with each other08:32
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bckZen: unpack with tar xvfz filename.tar.gz and execute the install file08:32
] BreliC[Zen, first you neded to uncompress it... 'tar zxvf filename.tar.gz'08:32
Primali use xp home on the other computer and it just won't let me into ubuntu from windows08:32
tirianI tried the Ubuntu live cd last night and I was really impressed. Keep up the great work!08:32
dr_willis] BreliC[,  thers no 'seeing' to it - as far as i can tell.. :P firefox works fine..  as does all my other programs ;p Opera seems to be confused.08:32
Primalor the other way around08:32
JDigitalI'm using Win2K on my other computers08:33
JDigitalUbuntu on this one08:33
goldfishbck: It's in with the alsa-utils package afaik.08:33
bckIs the nonexistence of "alsaconf" a known issue?08:33
] BreliC[dr_willis, hmm, strange.08:33
Primalokay, then nevermind! :)08:33
tritiumbck, it's not included intentionally08:33
k-dogI just upgraded warty => hoary.  clamav / freshclam and some related packages were uninstalled.  They're out of Universe.  Several deps are unmet, eg:    clamav: Depends: libclamav1 (>= 0.83) but it is not installable08:33
k-dog...any suggestions on resolution?08:33
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dr_willis] BreliC[,  i told it to use the 'lpr' command - that added a 'custome' printer - to the list. but it dont work. lol08:34
tritiumgoldfish, no, it's not in alsa-utils08:34
goldfishoh right08:34
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bcktritium, and how can i switch from onboard sound device (which was the default when i installed ubuntu) to my pci card which is plugged? =)08:34
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JDigitalhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#sharefolderstheeasyway -- this page is no use either08:35
goldfishsojust i tried to install alsaconf, and it tried to install alsa-conf instead.08:35
goldfish*alsa-utils08:35
goldfishmeh, nm08:35
] BreliC[dr_willis, man, that bites... when you click on Print, there's just nothing in the list?08:35
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tritiumbck, no idea08:36
dr_willis] BreliC[,  there is now - that i added a custome printer to use the 'lpr' command. :P but dosent print... 'lpr foo.txt' from the command line does08:36
bckhmm there is only alsactl, which is useless for my issue (switch soundcard driver)08:37
dr_willis] BreliC[,  lets see.. what is the command for kde or gnome to print somthing..08:37
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tritiumbck, there is alsactl08:37
siglpr08:37
JDigitalWell, no wonder. The guide is for hoary, and I am using Warty.08:37
sigJDigital: for what?08:38
sigwhat guide?08:38
sigshould be the same more than likely08:38
JDigitalubuntuguide.org08:38
JDigitalin this case it's not the same08:38
sigwhat?08:38
dr_willis] BreliC[,  yea - i think its an opera issue/ they seem to be sending bad file names to the printing command. or somthing08:38
sigubuntuguide.org is Hoary08:38
sigthere is an older link for Warty on there too for the Warty guide08:39
bcktritium, yeah, but i read "man alsactl" and imho there's no way to change the driver itself, only accessing the advanced features of the already loaded driver08:39
tizenHow many of you guys are using breezy?08:39
JDigitalsig: yeah I found that08:39
cjdavisbck, I too am working on alsa questions - but i just got here - what is your issue?08:39
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hmmm22is it possible to make a remote install of Ubuntu-Linux.08:40
wasabi__It is possible to do anything with it.08:40
prometheIs anyone using TeX here?08:40
sobersabrehmmm22, bootp / pxe08:40
k-doghmmm22: /msg dpkg chroot install.08:40
cjdavisi am trying to get support together for the mutilple channels that my via-8237 supports08:40
sobersabrepromethe, #tex , #latex08:40
k-dogIs there a channel bot?08:40
dr_willisI used TeX years ago in college.08:40
bckcjdavis, i have installed 2 soundcard devices: Cmedia (onboard) emuk (pci) the pci-device is plugged, and i want to use that one. the problem is alsamixer shows that the driver for cmedia is loaded08:40
bckand i have no idea how to switch that driver08:41
hmmm22the problem is . i want to install Ubuntu on a computer without a screen.08:41
JDigitalWhat's the difference between home folder, group folder and public folder?08:41
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dr_willisbck,  may want to disable the sound card in the bios.08:41
bckand oh, i'm not able to disable it in the bios ;)08:41
JDigitalI never got what "group" was in terms of chmodding things08:41
k-doghmmm22: Park the drive in another system.  Install there.  Transfer the drive.08:41
tritiumpromethe, I use LaTeX all the time.08:41
dr_willispublic = a shared folder for all users. (perhaps accessable as a windows/samba share)08:41
wasabi__JDigital? security group.08:42
hmmm22i've got only my laptop08:42
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bckdr_willis, there's no possibility in my bios08:42
rrichiehi all08:42
cjdavisbck, hmm.. have you looked at /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/README.Debian.gz08:42
JDigitalWhat's security group?08:42
dr_willisbck,  you could just blacklist the modules that are getting loaded.08:42
holycowJDigital, first there is no group folder08:42
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wasabi__JDigital, a user is a memeber of one or more groups.08:42
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holycowJDigital, and where are you getting this public folder stuff from?08:42
bckcjdavis, not yet but thx for the hint08:42
wasabi__Security stuff.08:42
cjdavisbck, it looks like you want to set up an alias for snd-card-008:42
JDigitalhttp://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#sharegroupfolderreadsecurityuser08:42
rrichiehas anyone already installed oracle 9i? I have problems : in the installer, when i click on the next button nothing happens. Can anyone help me?08:43
goldfishhmmm, does anyone know if there will be an XFCE section added to the Ubuntu Gallery on the forums?08:43
JDigitalhttp://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#automountnetworkfolder08:43
redduck666what is the defaul root pasword in ubuntu live cd_08:43
JDigitaletc08:43
bckdr_willis, you mean in /etc/modules ?08:43
holycowJDigital, the home folder basically contains user folders so /home/user1 and /home/user2 ... etc08:43
tritiumredduck666, there isn't one08:43
tritiumhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:43
hksduhi, I am using Ubuntu 5.04 and I have Duron 600, 256MB, GF2 MX400 32MB.  It runs pretty slow for desktop windows moving, it generates all shadows...does anyone know if the default installation is using the NV driver from nVidia or the kernel one?08:43
bckcjdavis, how do you mean that? i just want to use my pci soundcard instead the onboard crap08:43
cjdavisbck, actually, they refer to an 'emu10k1' driver in a specific example on multiple cards in there08:44
redduck666tritium, su  + enter + enter sazs incorect login08:44
mvirkkilhksdu: The Free one. Not the proprietary from nvidia08:44
hksdumvirkkil, ic....08:44
holycowJDigital, on every linux system you have both users and groups, each user has their own home directory, and each user can belong to a group, so say you can belong to a group called accounting, and someone else can belong to a group called sales08:44
dr_willishksdu,  eliminating all the eye candy will help a lot also.08:44
bckcjdavis, ok i'll take a look at that doc08:44
JDigitalah, I see.08:44
tritiumredduck666, right, root account is disabled so you can use sudo08:44
holycowJDigital, folders are just that folders, groups are just that groups of users08:44
wasabi__"Just like Windows."08:44
hksdumvirkkil, one more question, I was playing a mpeg movie using totern xine, but it plays it without sound, any clue?08:44
cjdavisbck, i believe that the system is seeing the onboard sound before the pci card08:44
tritiumredduck666, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo08:44
cjdavisbck you want to force it to goto the emu device first08:45
hksdudr_willis, I can't because they are so sweet .... :)08:45
bckcjdavis, yeah exactly08:45
SQL_Samhey is mplayer already packaged in ubuntu or do i need to download it?08:45
redduck666tritium, thanks08:45
mvirkkilhksdu: Try killin polypaudio and make sure you've installed w32codecs from marillat.08:45
cjdavisbck, cool, then check out the first section of the file 'loading modules'08:45
holycowJDigital, and each folder is 'owned' by someone or a groups of someones ... your home directory is owned by you, but if you have a folder you want to share with the 'accounting group' you can chmod that folder to be owned by the group 'accounting' ... two different concepts taht work together to set permissions08:45
hksdumvirkkil, what's marillat? do I downlaod the w32codecs from synaptics also?08:46
JDigitalaha08:46
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bckcjdavis, ok, give me a few minutes i'll report to you :D08:46
mvirkkilhksdu: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:46
JDigitalSo when I say "chmod 777", one of those is me, one of those is my group... and the other would be "everyone else"?08:46
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mvirkkilJDigital: yes08:47
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holycowJDigital, sorry i should of written chown user:group08:47
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JDigitalI had thought it was that but I never gave it much though as to what 'group' means08:47
holycowchmod sets the write/execute priviledges on a file08:47
leek`_-can someone tell me why its impossible to find any divx support? ive done everything google has told me with no luck... am i just retarded?08:47
holycowso you can chowwn user: group on a file08:47
cjdavisbck, cool. another hint - use modprobe -r modulename to remove modules (when you need to reload them or different ones)08:47
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JDigitalleek: use mplayer :)08:47
holycowand then you can chmod 777 to give specific read/write privildges on the folder08:47
leek`_-JDigital, what would i search for on synaptic?08:48
JDigitalmplayer08:48
SQL_Samis mplayer packaged in ubuntu?08:48
JDigital:)08:48
leek`_-JDigital, don't say mplayer coz it doesnt work08:48
hksdumvirkkil, thx08:48
JDigitalIt ought to be, yes08:48
wasabi__SQL_Sam, maybe you should look.08:48
JDigitalI use mplayer all the time, it 's great08:48
JDigital<3 mplayer08:48
SQL_Samsynaptic?08:48
bckcjdavis, thx, how do i know the name of the module for example the cmedia soundcard?08:48
JDigitalmeanwhile Totem doesn't work for shit08:48
mvirkkilI prefer xine.08:48
Xeon3DHi, does anyone know if there is a transparent window selector applet for the gnome panel?08:48
holycowJDigital, to see what various numbers mean you can google, or right click on a folder, do properties, go to the permissions tab and check off things, you will see that each number corresponds to a specific set of read write execute permissions on a file/folder08:48
cjdavisAre there any ALSA wizards around here? I am trying to figure out how to use multiple channels on my sound card08:48
leek`_-JDigital, a search for "mplayer" yeilds me nothing :\08:48
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JDigitaloh.08:48
JDigitalHave you tried looking it up in the ubuntu wiki?08:49
JDigitalThere might be another repository you have to add08:49
SQL_Sami'll try that08:49
leek`_-JDigital, yep it says to install mplayer lol08:49
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leek`_-JDigital, which seems to be impossible ;\08:49
blackfeethi08:49
JDigitalThere might be another repository you have to add to be able to install mplayer from synaptic08:49
cjdavisbck, its probably a cmiXXX driver08:49
SQL_Samwell i was suppossed to have swat - and i dont have it.....08:49
holycowSQL_Sam, why not?08:49
blackfeeti've installed ubuntu on the fourth computer today, the first time i've troubles ..08:50
SQL_Samdont know - went into my repos and it's not there08:50
cjdavisbck, is the cmi sound working at the moment?08:50
holycowSQL_Sam, it is, make sure to enable universe08:50
mvirkkilblackfeet: What's the problem?08:50
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SQL_Samhow do i do that?08:50
bckcjdavis, i don't know its not plugged08:50
JDigitalI forget whether or not Warty came with Ubuntu for me or I had to install it, but if I did install it, I did so using Synaptic. It's possible that I had to add another repository to do that, since no doubt some of mplayer's video codecs are non-free08:50
holycowSQL_Sam, open up synaptic, go to repository section, uncomment according to instructions in that file08:50
SQL_Sami keep hearing universe / multiverse and have no idea what that is08:51
bckcjdavis, but i know from an older debian installation that the emuk chip actually works very fine08:51
holycowSQL_Sam, then update synaptic and search again08:51
cjdavisbck, run     lsmod | less    and look through there for snd-* modules that are loaded08:51
holycowSQL_Sam, just do what i told you08:51
JDigitalSQL_Sam: Consult the wiki08:51
] BreliC[VLC is quite nice actually08:51
blackfeet.. i installed all,  than i loged in and everything worked, then i loged out-startet the X-Server new (changed resolution), tried to log in and than nothing happens, brown screen with coursor but nothing more ;(08:51
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JDigitalthe wiki explained everything for me08:51
karlanyone used captive for ntfs write?08:51
karlhttp://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/08:51
pablo928leek`_try www.ubuntuguide.org #1608:51
JDigitalis captive that one that uses ntfs.sys or somesuch to write to ntfs?08:51
karlyeah08:51
JDigitalI've heard it said that it's good, and am considering trying it08:51
holycowkarl, i tried, the problem is that lufs is no longer maintained by anyone, and no longer compiles against current kernel08:51
SQL_Sami'll consult the wiki first....08:51
karlyeah, that's my doubts08:52
karlneither lufs nor captive are actually maintained08:52
karlwhicih is sort of ok, if it works,08:52
holycowkarl, therefore consider captive unusable currently unless someone eitehr patches lufs or you patch the kernel and recompile08:52
karlbut not reassuring for linux stuff08:52
holycowcaptive too? oh right08:52
holycow*nod*08:52
holycowkarl, well not true, it is very reassuring08:52
blackfeeti redid the resolution change and everyting i did, but it doesnt work, ... does anybody know something about my problem?08:52
karloh well.08:52
bckcjdavis, exactly lsmod that's the tool i've looked for =)08:52
karlwhat's reassuring?08:52
JDigitalAh, now here's a problem. Ubuntuguide.org tells me that to share a folder on my Windows network I must first chmod it to 777, but this folder I want to share is on my Windows drive, and I'm assuming that you can't chmod on a FAT32 partition.08:53
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holycowkarl, you've never had a company that you paid money to for software either discontinue software or tell you to f your self about the direction they are taking, have you?08:53
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] BreliC[if i want to have a module load at boot time, where do i put it??? Is it in the modules.conf?08:53
holycowkarl, at least we have the source and if you care, hire someone to maintain it just for you, if you don't distribute it, you don't haveto share the soruce08:53
karlwell yes, but I'm not sure what's reassuring about captive being closed.08:53
karls/closed/not maintained08:53
cjdavisbck good. you'll need modprobe and maybe lspci as well08:54
holycowkarl, you have the source, go forth and hire someone to fix it for you08:54
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karlit would much much much cheaper for me to buy a 120gig harddrive, and a second case,08:54
bckcjdavis, i now know the name (it's snd_cmipci) how can i disable it and load the emuk module?08:55
blackfeetnobody knows something about my troubles?08:55
karland do what I was planning on doing, and just dumping the ntfs drive to a fat32 drive and being done with it :)08:55
holycowkarl, lol or stop using windows altogether?08:55
karlI'm actually trying to find someone to borrow one off for a few hours here in iceland.08:55
holycow>_>08:55
dr_williskarl,  thats what i did with external usb drives.08:55
karlif I can get expertgps to work in wine, I might be able to,08:55
karlbut I'm still slowly migrating08:55
cjdavisbck, first modprobe -r snd_cmipci to remove old modules ( i think)08:55
goldfishblackfeet: you could try a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'08:56
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karlalso, fat for an external drive makes the most sense as it lets me take it to people's house, regardless of whether they have linux or windows08:56
holycowkarl, :) i kid, whatever works08:56
karlno, it's fine ;)08:56
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karlI know what you mean, and for some people it's probably worth while08:56
blackfeetgoldfish: xserver works fine, only gnome doesnt start up correctly08:57
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karlI'm actualyl surprised that someone hasn't taken it up actually.08:57
karls/actually//08:57
holycowkarl, i ran into the same problem, but i only need ntfs support for work related issues08:57
njs12345blackfeet: has it been working before?08:57
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blackfeetnjs12345: yes, i was able to log in once08:57
karlif I had more free hardrive space, I'd just shuffle, but I've got about 6 gig free, so that's just going to happen :)08:57
bckcjdavis, ok now i know: i just have to edit my /etc/modules and add an additional soundcard08:58
holycowit's cheaper for me to actually buy norton ghost but i find microsoft business practices so distastefull i will hire someone to create/maintain ntfs/lufs/imaging package for me08:58
njs12345blackfeet: did it break after an upgrade?08:58
cjdavisbck, i ithink you want a line in /etc/modprobe.d/sound    to be             alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k108:58
mvirkkilblackfeet: What does 'top' say?08:58
cjdavisbck right08:58
JDigitalI made the mistake of formatting my 120GB "all my anime and stuff goes on this" drive as NTFS because now linux can't delete old stuff from it08:58
blackfeetMyrtti: init is on top08:58
karlyeah, ntfs seemed like a great idea at the time :)08:58
cjdavisbck, wait.... maybe not quite the same...08:58
blackfeetnjs12345: no, i didnt upgrade08:58
njs12345blackfeet: if not, you might want to try this: rm -rf ~/.gnome2  ~/.gnome2_private ~/.gconf ~/.gconfd08:58
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njs12345you'll lose settings08:59
blackfeeti'll try08:59
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aehohello08:59
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goldfishhi aeho09:00
aehoI just installed ubuntu, I'm new to linux09:00
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goldfishcool09:00
djm62welcome09:01
blackfeetnjs12345: nice, it works! thanx a lot09:01
goldfishgood choice on disto btw :)09:01
goldfish*distro09:01
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Myrttiwhaaa?!09:01
bckcjdavis, maybe i should add this line: "options snd-cmipci index=-2" at the bottom of /etc/modrobe.d/alsa-base to prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 009:01
Myrttisomeone called me?09:01
hksdumvirkkil, it still doesn't have sound, :(09:02
njs12345blackfeet: np :) you'll lose stuff like desktop backgrounds and stuff, but that shouldn't really be a problem09:02
mvirkkilhksdu: Make sure you've installed mp3 support09:02
leek`_-pablo928, thanks for your help :D got it09:02
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ringmauerhow do i do if i want to run whine?09:03
hksdumvirkkil, do I need MARILLAT?09:03
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mvirkkilhksdu: Probably. You can get mp3 support from there09:03
cjdavisbck, maybe in /etc/modprobe.d/sound, put alias snd-card-0    snd-emu10k109:03
cjdavis    options snd-emu10k1 index=009:03
blackfeetnjs12345: i didn't do any settings and i know what it affects removing the . files in home, but i don't thougt that it would work in this case09:04
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geargolemhaving a hard time with my video driver09:04
holycowkarl yeah, ntfs seemed like a great idea at the time :)  <-- rofl, man isn't hindsight 20/20?  i feel the same way about the whole windows thing ... biiiiiig mistake.09:04
k-dogWhat's the trick for getting clamav installed under hoary?09:04
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pablo928 leekglad it works for you also09:04
HulaBeagleSebhey all09:05
HulaBeagleSebi'm loving ubuntu at the momemt09:05
k-doghksdu: In Soviet Russia, Marillat needs you.09:05
k-doghksdu: In Korea, only old people need Marillat.09:05
goldfishlol09:05
HulaBeagleSebi bought a dlink dwl-g122 54g usb stick and it works great with ndiswrapper and ubuntu09:05
bckcjdavis, are these file thought for executing after editing? :D09:05
HulaBeagleSebi had to compile ndiswrapper 1.1 by hand09:05
HulaBeagleSebbut it look no time09:05
JDigitalHow do I make a symlink09:05
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holycowk-dog, sudo apt-get install clamav?09:06
goldfishJDigital: ln -s09:06
k-dogJDigital: ln -s source target09:06
holycow>_>09:06
JDigitalthx09:06
hksduk-dog, what's that?09:06
k-dogholycow: Conflicts.09:06
holycowwith?09:06
karlhow long would it take to upload 120gig at 512kbps?09:06
roothi every one i have a problem with my cddrive because i can t see any file or anything when i put my cd on the drive09:06
k-dogholycow: Sec.09:06
ChoubakaAnd in Finland, no-one needs anything. Now go away, I have a hangover!09:06
Choubaka;)09:06
cjdavisbck, huh? say that again?09:06
b2sHulaBeagleSeb: I did that for my broadcom wireless-g also :)09:06
goldfishkarl: Years :)09:06
karlyeah09:06
karlI'm gett 699 hours with my calculator09:06
HulaBeagleSebb2s: i had a belkin broadcom card09:06
goldfishhehe09:06
EpicenterI set up a Ubuntu server and installed wu-ftpd on it, now when users log in they can upload files just fine, but when they try to delete them, they get a permission denied error. I checked and the files are owned by the user who uploaded them and their delete permission is not specifically revoked in the config file, only 'anonymous'' is . What would cause this?09:06
HulaBeagleSebb2s: the bios on my laptop is rubbish so the cardbus won't work on ANY linux09:07
geargolemNo SiS video driver support in Ubuntu09:07
HulaBeagleSebb2s: so i went to PC World and bought a D-Link stick for 3909:07
karlsomeone just offered to upload it off me, but I don't think that will work :)09:07
HulaBeagleSebsnap!09:07
b2sHulaBeagleSeb: I actually wonder why ndiswrapper-1.1 isn't in hoary.  it probably doesn't break anything09:07
bckcjdavis, what after editing the file /etc/modprobe.d/sound (which i had to create)?09:07
goldfishkarl: hah09:07
bckcjdavis, shall i execute the file?09:07
goldfishkarl: Why do you want to upload 120gb ?09:07
HulaBeagleSebb2s: it took me about 30 seconds to compile09:07
cjdavisbck nono09:07
karlI don't :)09:07
goldfishoh right09:07
goldfishlol09:07
k-doggoldfish: 124gb was all out of stock?09:07
cjdavisbck its used by modprobe when it runs09:08
karlI want to borrow a usb2/firewire harddrive with more than 120gig spare space on it.09:08
goldfishk-dog: ........09:08
b2sHulaBeagleSeb: it took me a couple hours to compile, but it was my first day of having installed ubuntu, and I've never run anything like debian before09:08
k-dogholycow: The following packages have unmet dependencies:09:08
k-dog  clamav: Depends: libclamav1 (>= 0.83) but it is not installable09:08
k-dog          Depends: libcurl3 (>= 7.12.3-1) which is a virtual package.09:08
k-dogholycow: ...and more similar.09:08
karljust for a couple of hours, but the only offer I've gotten so far is someone with the space who'll let me upload it to them, then download it after ntfs->fat3209:08
b2sHulaBeagleSeb: also I'm on amd64 so I had to edit the control files09:08
HulaBeagleSebb2s: role on x86 ;-)09:08
holycowk-dog, oh don't forget ubuntu is based on debian unstable ... thats typical of things in universe not being patched/supported09:08
k-dogholycow: universe and hoary appear to be out of sync09:08
cjdavisbck, man modprobe.conf09:08
k-dogholycow: Um. yeah.09:09
cjdavisbck man modprobe09:09
b2sHulaBeagleSeb: heh.  anyway, me and transgress did up a wiki page on it, so it will be a much shorter problem next time :)09:09
holycowk-dog, i highly recommend using a debian sarge install for anything requiring those packages ... your not trying to use it on the desktop are you?09:09
gaioanyone with ftp client and ssl ?09:09
karlb2s wiki for what?09:10
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karlclamav, or the wireless?09:10
srbakerwhat's the "n cups of Ubuntu" on the ubuntu forums?09:10
HulaBeagleSebb2s: the ndiswrapper one?09:10
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HulaBeagleSebsrbaker: how many posts you have made09:10
b2skarl: for amd64 ndiswrapper09:10
HulaBeagleSebsrbaker: more posts = more cups = more ubuntu09:10
k-dogholycow: It is a desktop.  clamav is mostly a district comfort (school) measure09:10
karlyeah, it's been fun.09:11
JDigitalThanks for help, guys :D09:11
bckcjdavis, hmm when i want to modprobe -r snd_cmipci it sais it's still in use09:11
srbakerahh, thanks09:11
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karlI can make ndiswrapper 1.1 and use it with my existing kernel09:11
karlbut I've not been able to make a new kernel with ndis1.109:11
karlnot enoguh patch kungfu09:11
geargolemWhy do I need nvidia-glx for a SiS video driver?09:11
Zenargh.. tvcard troubles.. anyone care to lend a hand?09:11
cjdavisbck, ah.. do a /etc/init.d/alsa force-unload09:11
holycowk-dog, are you sure you need clamav on an ubuntu desktop?  usually the proper place for clamav is on an smtp gateway that does antivirus and spam clipping for windows mail clients that recieve their mail from a separate pop/imap server?09:12
jupitersteIf a computer has one hard drive, why does it show as /dev/hda in hdparm -i, yet /dev/hda1 in the Gnome System Monitor?09:12
k-dogholycow: This is a logic-free zone.09:12
b2skarl: patch kungfu?  I hadn't realized it would be difficult to upgrade09:12
k-dogholycow: All computers need AV installed on them.09:12
k-dogholycow: Public school district09:12
Zenargh.. tvcard troubles.. anyone care to lend a hand? please =)09:12
karlb2s: the ubuntu linux packages only have ndiswrapper 1.02 support in the tree09:13
holycowk-dog, rofl, oh you have an admin that requires you to have av on it regardless of os? hahaha09:13
k-dogjupiterste: hda1 == partition.  hda == drive.09:13
karlI guess I just wasn't l33t enough to make it all work.09:13
k-dogholycow: It makes other problems go away for us.09:13
karlI used up all my patch kungfu getting a delkin cardbus cf adaptor to work.09:13
jupiterstethanks k dog09:13
k-dogjupiterste: NP09:13
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holycowk-dog, let me check09:14
b2skarl: yeah, ndiswrapper 0.12 didn't work for me at all.  but compiling the new version didn't require anything complicated.  are you sure you had the packages you needed (like linux-headers)?09:14
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Zenyo anyone here want to help?09:14
karlb2s: I could compile the new version09:14
karlthat was fine ;)09:14
karlthat's how I got it to work.09:14
k-dogholycow: Alernatively I could try messing with pinning here, but that's a tad messy09:14
b2sah09:14
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karlbut I needed a custom kernel for a different device09:14
aboodhi all :)09:14
bckcjdavis, yeah ok i could remove it, now i used: "modprobe emu10k1" and it worked09:14
karland Icouldn't get that kernel, and ndis1.1 at the same time09:14
bckcjdavis, bck@bck-linux:~$ lsmod | grep emu10k109:14
bckemu10k1                71940  009:14
bcksound                  74028  1 emu10k109:14
bckac97_codec             16780  1 emu10k109:14
bckemu10k1_gp              3840  009:14
bckgameport                4608  1 emu10k1_gp09:14
holycowk-dog, do you mind me asking, are you a student and how is it you are being allowed to even touch non ms stuff? :)09:14
bcksoundcore               9824  2 emu10k1,sound09:15
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b2skarl: the custom kernel was based on the ubuntu, or it was vanilla?09:15
bckcjdavis, you see the emu10k1 module is still not loaded, right?09:15
karlon ubuntu09:15
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k-dogholycow: I'm volunteering here.  There was an extant but nascent lab I'm helping set up, mixed distros.09:15
Zenanybody?09:15
Olseni'm trying to umount /dev/hdc1 from /mnt and says that is busy... how can i know what process is using /mnt or how can i force it?09:15
b2skarl: hmm, I can't see why that would have failed, but what do I know about ubuntu kernels? :)09:15
k-dogholycow: MDK, RH 9.0, SuSE 9.x, 2x Debian, 2x Ubuntu.09:15
holycowk-dog, no shit, cool! i'm firing up vmware to see if i get the same error09:15
cjdavisbck 1 sec09:16
k-dogOlsen: fuser -mv /dev/hdc109:16
k-dogholycow: Thanks.09:16
Olsenk-dog, thx09:16
aboodguys , New proplem :(, in my internet connection when i boot the pc and run my firefox maybe after 5 mins its get disconnected but the mirc is still connecting i dont know why and all the other stuff's stop ? any idea or help ?!09:16
karlb2s: me either!09:16
karlit was bad enough trying with the ubuntu 2.6.11 package :)09:16
karlit only works with inotify09:16
jupiterstek-dog: have you experienced any freeze up after a while of working in ubunt?  all of a sudden my whole system will slow to a crawl09:16
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karland guess what ndiswrapper needs?09:16
karlinotify!09:16
Zenlook.. i need help.. a simple yes ill help or no piss of l' do.09:17
karlsorry, with noinotify09:17
karlzen: tv?09:17
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Olsenk-dog, i got nothing as output09:17
gaioanyone with ftp client and ssl ?09:17
cjdavisbck, couple of things -- yes its loaded -- thats why its in the lsmod list, right? second, you want snd-emo10k1, NOT just emu10k109:17
k-dogjupiterste: Usually that's a swap issue.  iostat / vmstat may be useful here.09:17
cjdavisbck, must leave for 5, brb09:17
bckcjdavis, no problem09:17
k-dogjupiterste: How much memory, what are you running, do you have hdparm configured.09:17
b2sZen: probably have to be more specific about what the problem is09:18
cjdavisbck i'm back09:18
jupiterstek-dog: 512mb, IBM ThinkCenre A50 P4 2.8, i haven't touched hdparm, i'm kind of new to this09:18
mainerabood: re-sync your modem or re-initialize,irc needs leat amt. of bandwidth so will normally work,even if connection deteriorates,resatrt modem usually works,can depend on how firewalling is set-up.09:19
cjdavisbck you want to unload all those drivers you just loaded... they are for oss, not alsa09:19
geargolemNeed help.  No 3d on Hoary.   SiS driver- no support on Hoary09:19
cjdavisbck use modprobe -r emu10k109:19
bckcjdavis, oh :)09:19
k-dogjupiterste: As root:  'hdparm /dev/hda' shows settings.  'hdparm -tT /dev/hda' shows transfer rates.  Values of 10 MB/s => 80 MB/s+ for buffered *disk* (not cache) reads are good.09:19
cjdavisbck very very common mistake09:19
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cjdavisnot sure why they even have the oss modules in there09:20
k-dogjupiterste: using_dma should be on.09:20
bckcjdavis, ok i did that, do i have to load snd_emu10k109:20
holycowk-dog, weird, it installs with no problems here ... ?09:20
Markriangeargolem, can you elaborate? What SiS card do you have?09:21
cjdavisbck i think so - modprobe snd_emu10k109:21
k-dogholycow: My sources.list may be bogus.09:21
aboodmainer, i restarted the networking, and also wont work ?!09:21
k-dogholycow: /join #flood ?09:21
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holycowk-dog, i'm using the default ubuntu one .. nod ... joining09:21
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geargolem(SiS) 630 / 730 PCI /AGP VGA Display Adapter, Markrian09:21
SkyNethow do i chage the root pass?09:21
jupiterstek-dog: using_dma = 1 (on), and buffered disk read is 54.81 MB/s09:21
bckcjdavis, ok: bck@bck-linux:~$ lsmod | grep emu10k109:22
bcksnd_emu10k1            81668  009:22
bcki think the '0' is not good09:22
cjdavisbck nonono09:22
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Zenyo all... right i have a tv card problem. I can view analog tv fine but then when i put the areal into my freeview box and plug it into the card via the yellow white + red wires it doesnt seem to see it09:22
EpicenterI set up a Ubuntu server and installed wu-ftpd on it, now when users log in they can upload files just fine, but when they try to delete them, they get a permission denied error. I checked and the files are owned by the user who uploaded them and their delete permission is not specifically revoked in the config file, only 'anonymous'' is . What would cause this?09:23
Zenwhich is a pain in the ass09:23
cjdavisbck - run lsmod | less09:23
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Markriangeargolem, does that graphics card even do 3D at all? :p09:23
hansderlutscherd09:23
k-dogjupiterste: That's good values.09:23
cjdavisbck look at the header -- the number is the number of references to the module09:23
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geargolemMarkrian, it worked on WindowsME and when Hoary set it as an Nvidia Driver09:24
cjdavisbck it just means there aren't any programs accessing the driver yet09:24
SkyNethow do i chage the root pass? anyone?09:24
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mainersudo passwd09:25
cjdavisskynet sudo passwd09:25
Zenyo all again... right i have a tv card problem. I can view analog tv fine but then when i put the areal into my freeview box and plug it into the card via the yellow white + red wires it doesnt seem to see it.  can anyone here help me wih this?09:25
cjdavisright09:25
bckcjdavis, oh ok, i c, e.g. snd_rawmidi is used bi snd_emu10k1, but snd_emu10k1 is atm not used?09:25
Markriangeargolem.... what exactly is the problem? I don't understand then09:25
cjdavisbck exactly09:25
SkyNetthanks09:26
bckcjdavis, actually the sound should work?09:26
cjdavisbck run     aplay -l09:26
cjdavisbck should list outputs09:26
cjdavisbck     arecord -l    for inputs09:26
geargolemare you familiar with the program blender, Markrian?  it doesn't work.  I get the error 'Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"09:26
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hansderlutscherwhen i type sudo apt-get install ...  for the second time in a terminal, i have the following problem  "E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?09:26
hansderlutscher"  what does that mean?09:26
Markriangeargolem, sorry, I can't help you, I've gotta go. Ask people about Mesa, and DRI09:27
bckcjdavis, card 0: Live [Sound Blaster Live!] , device 0: emu10k1 [EMU10K1] 09:27
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Ironfrosthansderlutscher - do you have Synaptic open?09:27
bckcjdavis, card 0: Live [Sound Blaster Live!] , device 2: emu10k1 efx [EMU10K1 EFX] 09:27
jupiterstek-dog: ok maybe it's something weird that's just on this computer, cause I have an old celeron with 256mb ram, it acts as a ltsp server for 3 pcs, and that thing has never crashed like this new IBM does09:27
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bckcjdavis, i think that looks good09:28
hansderlutscheryes09:28
Ironfrostyou can't use Aptitude when Synaptic is running; close it then try again09:28
cjdavisbck great - you will need alsamixer to unmute outputs and volume levels, and a program to play something - aplay somewavfile.wav  or xmms, or...09:29
hansderlutscheri still have the problem09:29
bckcjdavis, YEAH after a "/etc/init.d/alsa restart the sound works very fine :D09:29
hansderlutschersynaptic closed09:30
bckcjdavis, THANK YOU very much, lifesaver, i cant live without sound ;)09:30
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cjdavisbck sweet :)09:30
cjdavisbck now the question is, does it have multiple output channels?09:30
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Ironfrostthat's as far as I know I'm afraid - maybe someone else will be able to help you09:31
HulaBeagleSebjust wondering09:31
HulaBeagleSebhow do i use the mount command to mount a partition read AND write09:31
hansderlutscherhowever thx09:31
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karlhula: you still having problems with that flash card?09:31
daniel_erasmohi !09:31
HulaBeagleSebe.g. mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/cf109:31
bckcjdavis, i think so: arecord and aplay shows a list of 32 subdevices..09:31
HulaBeagleSebkarl: nah, got it sorted09:31
shinuhow can i make the alt button work under irssi in ubuntu?09:31
karlso what's wrong now?09:31
hansderlutscherhow do i play real media files with vlc in ubuntu=09:32
daniel_erasmoI tried install the Ubuntu on my pc, but I received this message after first step of the installation: GRUB Hard Disk Error09:32
karlI thought your problem was you wanted rw for it and were't getting it?09:32
daniel_erasmoanybody knows this error ?09:32
HulaBeagleSebnope something else09:32
HulaBeagleSebhow can i mount it rw09:32
cjdavisbck yes, i think thats the hardware mixer - but how about device 0:, device 1:....09:32
mjrshinu, it should work straight up (well, those that are reserved for existing tabs don't go through)09:32
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cjdavisbck you are now at my point -- trying to play different stuff on the different devices....09:33
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b2sshinu: beats me, but I set my windows button to "meta" so I use meta-4 and such to switch tabs09:33
shinumjr: what keymap should i use? i had the uk english one by default09:33
Ironfrosthansderlutscher - maybe you could try using the command 'ps aux' to see if you have any other instances of apt-get that haven't closed properly?09:33
mjrshinu, well, I dunno. I have the finnish one09:33
bckcjdavis, oh, you have 2 soundcards too?09:33
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daniel_erasmoI tried install the Ubuntu on my pc, but I received this message after first step of the installation: GRUB Hard Disk Error09:33
shinumjr: oh right :D09:34
shinub2s: i would prefer the alt button. how did you do yours?09:34
mjrshinu, what terminal did you use?09:34
cjdavisbck, no just a card with 4/6 channel output09:34
shinumjr: xterm09:34
mjrshinu, ah. Well. Right.09:34
shinumjr: will it get fixed if i switch to xfce?09:34
mjryou probably need to set some x resources for that09:35
bckcjdavis, hmm i dont know what you mean, i'll send you the output of aplay -l by qry ok?09:35
Olsenif i remove esd all my programs that are compiled dinamically though esd will be removed too ? :S09:35
cjdavisok09:35
shinuugly...09:35
mjrshinu, xterm is xterm09:35
daniel_erasmosomebody can help me?09:35
mjrwhether under xfce or something else09:35
shinumjr: i used to have xterm under fedora and it worked well09:35
mjryes, it's configurable09:36
mjrjust arcane09:36
b2sshinu: mine is set in xorg (it was asked during the install)... but you can also set it from an x terminal with the command "setxkbmap -option -option altwin:meta_win" (just end after the first option to reset all options)09:36
Markriandaniel_erasmo, what was the exact error?09:36
EpicenterI set up a Ubuntu server and installed wu-ftpd on it, now when users log in they can upload files just fine, but when they try to delete them, they get a permission denied error. I checked and the files are owned by the user who uploaded them and their delete permission is not specifically revoked in the config file, only 'anonymous'' is . What would cause this?09:36
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daniel_erasmoMarkrian, after the first step of the installation09:37
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cjdavisbck, i mean multi channels like  - front l/r,  rear l/r09:37
shinub2s: what it did is just switched the function of the alt button to the windows button, but still didnt work to switch tabs in irssi09:38
Olsencan i remove esd without removing my existing programs that are compiled though it, like gnome...09:38
daniel_erasmowhen I was to initiate the machine09:38
k-dogholycow: Looks like I had a bad sources.list, thanks.09:38
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shinub2s: though my esc button is working as a meta button properly09:39
bckcjdavis, oh, do you know a way to test this? =)09:39
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b2sshinu: well, you can clear options with 'setxkbmap -option', but using meta_win did work for me (I'm currently in irssi)09:39
shinu:/09:40
cjdavisbck, thats where i am at09:40
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shinub2s: i did clear the options but it just returns to what it was before...09:40
bckcjdavis, ok09:40
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b2sshinu: :/ well, clearing the options would do that, but I don't know why turning on altwin:meta_win wouldn't work for you like it does for me09:41
cjdavisheres where i need help: does anybody know how to use the alsa config files in /usr/share/alsa/cards ???09:41
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HulaBeagleSebhey all09:42
shinub2s: all it did  is switched functions between the alt and the windows button09:42
HulaBeagleSebbtw, there was a long forums post about openoffice.org2 and ubuntu09:42
shinub2s: is it any different when im on laptop?09:42
HulaBeagleSebit gave a link to some unofficals deb for the latest version of oo2 beta09:42
HulaBeagleSebanyone know where it is?09:42
b2sshinu: its not supposed to. it should leave alt as alt, and set windows as meta09:42
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b2sshinu: I'm on a laptop.09:42
cjdavisbck, you probably want /usr/share/alsa/cards/EMU10K1.conf09:43
cjdavisbck this is what i'm trying to figure out - there must be a simple way to specify these conf files09:44
XTCboarderdoes somebody have engage running under gnome?09:44
XTCboarder(enlightement's engage)09:45
kakaltog'morning all09:45
kakaltoI gotta try out enlightenment soon09:45
k-dogkakalto: I'd suggest temporary exhaltation first.09:45
bckcjdavis, specify?09:45
hansderlutscherhow do i play real media files with vlc in ubuntu=09:45
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HulaBeagleSebhansdelutscher: get real media player for linux09:45
occyhow do I export a path:   export $PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/bin   doesn't seem to work.09:45
HulaBeagleSebhansderlutscher: www.ubuntuguide.org09:46
hansderlutscherthx09:46
kakaltok-dog, temporary exhaltation?09:46
HulaBeagleSebhansderlutscher: it tells you there how to install it09:46
cjdavisbck, these are alsa config files to specify the features of your specific audio card09:46
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b2sshinu: you could also try altwin:left_meta_win (which affects only one side of the keyboard)09:46
kakaltok-dog, I just work up, please say it simply, os I can understand09:46
k-dogkakalto: It's a substitute for true enlightenment.09:46
kakalto*so09:46
occyHulaBeagleSeb: ubuntuguide.org's sources.list are broken ATM.09:46
kakaltoahh09:46
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HulaBeagleSeboccy: i just remove the backports and it works fine09:46
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occyHulaBeagleSeb: hmmm, maybe the backports are were jre 1.5 is09:47
kakaltothanks, I needed that :)09:47
HulaBeagleSeboccy: it must be09:47
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HulaBeagleSeboccy: until now, it had to be installed by hand via sun09:47
occyHulaBeagleSeb: know how to export your path?09:47
Zugotoccy: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/jre1.5.0_02/bin09:47
shinub2s: i just did what you told me, pressing "windows"+"2" gives me 09:47
occyahh09:47
pablo928occy the link for RealPlayer download just worked for me.09:48
shinub2s: sorry i got disconnected :/09:48
SkyNetguys i get this error09:48
SkyNetMedia change: please insert the disc labeled09:48
SkyNet 'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)'09:48
SkyNetin the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter09:48
b2sshinu: wow, that's interesting09:48
SkyNetwhen installing sshd what is it any ideas?09:48
bckcjdavis, oh i c09:48
occyZugot: doh09:48
occyforgot my first $09:48
occy:)09:48
shinub2s: partly... but for me its rather... annyoing? xD09:48
occy*chuckle*09:48
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djpcan anyone tell me where in ubuntu you go to manage default file types?09:49
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aehowhat package I need to play mp3:s09:50
b2sshinu: hmm, well, the default is supposed to be altwin:meta_alt (where pressing alt results in both a meta and an alt)... that doesn't let me switch tabs in irssi though09:50
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EpicenterWhy would ProFTPD, PureFTPD or FTPD (anything but wu_ftpd) make all users unable to even TRY to log in? As it SHOULD prompt the client for a login it instead just times out. What the hell?09:50
lazarusHow to install sshd and start it?09:50
IronfrostSkyNet -I had the same problem (in my case there were corrupted files on the install disc) and got around it by commenting the CD out of the aptitude sources list09:50
occytx guys.... bbiab09:50
Ironfrostthere is probably a better solution, but that one definitely works09:50
gahanany apt guru here? i did sid->hoary today, and i'm sure some packages weren't refreshed, i wish my box to become 100% ubuntu.. but i dotn want to reinstall all pkgs, just those which werent refreshed with dist-upgrade09:50
shinub2s: oh... any way i could "fix" that?09:50
shinub2s: are you using an english keyboard mapping?09:51
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mjrb2s, shinu, the problem is most likely not in the keyboard mapping, but xterm settings, as I implied09:51
djpcan anyone tell me where in ubuntu you go to manage default file types?09:51
k-dogholycow: Thanks again.09:51
k-dogdjp: gconf / nautilus AFAIR.09:51
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shinumjr: and where can i change those option and how?09:52
mjr*shrug*, look for xterm xresources09:52
b2sshinu: I just switched to gb keymap, and altwin:meta_win still works for me09:52
karlkeyboards suck in linux09:52
karlinfinite control, with infintinte complexity09:52
karlwhy can't dead keys be smart?09:52
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karlthere's no 't so just print 't!09:53
shinukarl: another question arises xD what are the dead keys?09:53
mjrshinu, apparently this is in the irssi Startup HOWTO09:53
shinumjr: oh cool09:53
shinumjr: gonna have a look then09:53
kakaltoubuntu is so great - it runs everything of mine09:53
kakalto:)09:53
karldead keys are typing ' or " or ~ beofre a letter09:53
karlso you can make things like 09:53
shinuuh...09:54
lazarusHow to install sshd and start it in kubuntu? Any how-to?09:54
karlon windows, you type ' then a to make 09:54
djpk-dog: gconf, nautilus? sorry can you help me out with that? bit confused :oops:09:54
karland if you type ' then t, (like in can't)09:54
karlit just works as expected09:54
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karlon linux, with the us_intl (with deadkeys)09:54
karlpressing 't fails, as there's no accent modified t09:54
karlwhich is DUMB09:54
shinuah...09:55
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kakaltoyay09:55
kakaltoamerica's army is finished09:55
kakaltothank god for torrents09:56
GammaRayand thank god for america's army! hu-ra!09:57
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transgressi do not like that game09:58
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transgressespecially the "you gotta run the stupid training shit" before you can play09:58
EpicenterWhy would ProFTPD, PureFTPD or FTPD (anything but wu_ftpd) make all users unable to even TRY to log in? As it SHOULD prompt the client for a login it instead just times out. What the hell?09:58
hansderlutscheri just installed realplayer10, when opening there is an error message: cant start, file not found09:59
transgressEpicenter: is the service going?09:59
EpicenterAnd when I use WuFTPd, even though I'm told it's an enormous security risk and  I shouldn't, I'm miraculously able to log in but I can't DELETE anything despite that I set permissios to delete in the config file09:59
hansderlutscherneed help09:59
Epicentertransgress: yes09:59
GammaRaytransgress: you must understand.. you are a worthless maggot! they must inform you of this to make sure you take orrders in ROTC! hu-ra!09:59
Epicenterwell, I thought it was09:59
djpcan anyone tell me where in ubuntu you go to manage default file types? have looked in the gconf folder but am somewhat confused...09:59
EpicenterI tried vsftpd now, when I Enter vsftpd .. I get09:59
Epicenter500 OOPS oculd not bind to ipv4 socket09:59
Epicenterno other FTP daemons I am aware of are running10:00
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transgressEpicenter: that means an ftpd is already running10:00
Epicentertransgress: How would I Check which?10:00
transgressnetstat?10:00
EpicenterI removed all the others :P10:00
transgressremoving and stopping are two very different things10:00
GammaRaydjp: right click on a file -> properties10:00
EpicenterRemoving and rebooting should stop them permanently..10:00
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transgressyou reboot?10:01
transgressweird...10:01
shinumjr: is it normal that i dont have a .Xresources file?10:01
GammaRayyes10:01
kakaltowhat dev package includes the command "yacc"?10:01
EpicenterI did netstat -l and I see no FTP daemons listed.10:01
GammaRaykakalto: use apt-file10:01
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b2sshinu: I don't have one either :)  also, I opened up irssi in a standard terminal, and I can only switch windows using alt instead of meta! weird... clearly a terminal thing though10:01
transgressgod hates your ftp server?10:01
djpGammaRay: ahh, sure. my problem is actually that i want to edit the default file type that is used by firefox. i want to clear the list of apps that are used to open a file. any ideas?10:01
XandriXjdub, are u there ?10:02
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kakaltoGammaRay, "apt-file yacc" ?10:02
paulfoxhiya all.10:02
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paulfoxif i want to set a gamma level each time i log in, which .bash file do i put the command in?10:03
lunitikpaulfox: gamma would be an X setting, surely?10:03
mjrpaulfox, none; those aren't run with a graphical logi10:03
mjrn10:03
kakaltooh, nm10:03
kakaltoapt-file is teh package?10:03
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Zenargh.. i have tv card problems and im fed up of it. All i want is to be able to view the output from my freeview box but i just cant seem to do it. Can anyone remotely help?10:03
mjrshinu, usually you don't by default10:03
lunitikkakalto: apt-get install apt-file10:03
paulfoxright, so where's the right place?10:03
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GammaRaykakalto: sudo apt-file update; apt-file search yacc10:04
Zenany help is liked10:04
lunitikZen: you have tried tvtime?10:04
mjrpaulfox, well, you could create a runnable ~/.xsession script that first sets the gamma and then execs gnome-session10:04
paulfoxmjr, what if i use gdm to log in? how to i tell gdm to execute .xsession?10:05
lunitikZen: don't message me10:05
ivokspaulfox if u figure that out, tell me10:05
mjrpaulfox, but a nicer solution would probably be to tell gdm to do it from /etc/gdm/PreSession, for example10:05
hansderlutscheri have realmedi10 installed, how can i delete this program completely?10:05
GammaRaymjr: why not exec whatever you're gonna exec from gnome-session?10:05
shinumjr: so i just create one right?10:05
mjrpaulfox, actually, it does10:05
mjrGammaRay, hmm, good point ;)10:05
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XandriXanyone know if jdub is there10:06
Remenicwhahaha, well ubuntu, it's time to remove libjpeg! http://www.itworld.com/Man/2687/050422forgentms/10:06
mjrpaulfox, so yeah, add it to the gnome-session like gammaray said, from session preferences10:06
transgressjdub: you there?10:06
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travail101did linux-wlan-ng make into into the final Hoary LiveCD?10:06
mjrthough if you want it globally, do it in gdm10:06
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paulfoxwill do, cheers mjr, GammaRay10:06
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shinub2s: on gnome-terminal alt works fine as meta... meh... xD10:06
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transgressi don't think he's there10:06
XandriXdang10:06
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Zenany help?10:06
XandriXive bin trying to talk to him fro 3 days now10:06
mjrpaulfox, /etc/gdm/Init/Default seems like a good place for something like that if you want it for the whole family10:07
hansderlutscheri have realmedi10 installed, how can i delete this program completely?10:07
lunitikhansderlutscher: you compiled it?10:07
kakaltothanks, GammaRay10:07
Zenok.. ill say again. argh.. i have tv card problems and im fed up of it. All i want is to be able to view the output from my freeview box but i just cant seem to do it. Can anyone remotely help?10:08
shinuhow can i change from graphical login to text login?10:08
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hansderlutscherno i downloaded it10:08
koalahot, but is it normal to be scanned on port 25 when I connect?10:08
koalahon here10:08
lunitikhansderlutscher: it was a .deb?10:08
XandriXwanna here a funny fact10:08
GarySavedI can not believe how much it bothers me to not have the Latest/Greatist version.  I will be glad when Breezy stableizes some.10:09
hansderlutscherlunitik: a .bin10:09
lunitikshinu: perminantly, you'd need to change it in sysv-rc-conf10:09
hansderlutscherrealplay-10.0.4.750-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin10:09
XandriXmy friend told me hey bro check it ubuntu just got out a new version hoary hedgehog and u her horny hedgehog lol10:09
shinulunitik: cool thanks10:09
ivoksGarySaved how can i use breezy? :)10:09
lunitikhansderlutscher: just remove the dir it threw things in...10:09
lunitikshinu: I usually use rcconf, but apparently that replaces it  :)10:10
lunitikivoks: if you don't know, you probably shouldn't be10:10
ivoks:)10:10
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ivoksdon't wory :)10:10
hansderlutscherlunitik: thats all and the shortcuts will dissapear too?10:10
GammaRaylunitik: did I somehow miss what you said to shinu?10:10
shinulunitik: and where is susv-rc-conf? ^^'10:10
GarySavedI switched to it, then went back to Hoary.10:10
lunitikhansderlutscher: .bin files generally don't throw things everywhere...10:10
dave_how do u get the sound to work for doom under linux, and how do u get quake 2 for linux to work 210:11
lunitikGammaRay: I told him to use sysv-rc-conf10:11
ivoksdave_ killall -9 esd10:11
ivokstry then10:11
ivoksi hate esd10:11
dave_whats esd?10:11
lunitikshinu: apt-get install sysv-rc-conf ... it is in universe10:11
dave_esound?10:11
transgressi love esd10:11
ivoksesd is ok for xmms, mplayer, xine, etc...10:12
lunitiktransgress: no one loves ESD... it is crap10:12
ivoksbut games don't do esd :)10:12
transgressit helps me a lot on getting multiple sounds on my lappy with onboard sound10:12
transgresswanna play games in linux?  get a non shitty sound card and you don't need esd10:12
dave_laptop gaming lol10:12
dave_travel gaming10:12
transgressyeah i don't game on my lappy so eh10:13
ivokslunitik breezy has gcc4.0 I see..10:13
lunitikivoks: uhh... yeah10:13
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Li-Venomis there a ubuntu specific method to auto probe for video card and get the missing xserver module ?10:13
ivoksok, i'm new in ubuntu...10:13
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ivoksis breezy like sarge or sid? :)10:13
transgresssid i'd imagine10:13
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ivoksfrom the development point of view10:13
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lunitikivoks: breezy is sid with a few packages from hoary still (ie xorg and gnome 2.1010:14
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lunitik)10:14
Seveasbreezy is, like warty and hoary, based on sid10:14
ivoksok10:14
bad_mongoanyone know how I install acroread, flash and java in kubuntu?10:14
hussamare there any debian ( not ubuntu.com ) apt repositories that I can add?10:14
ivoksso, there isn't much point in switch10:14
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Seveasbad_mongo, read the RestrictedFormats page on the wiki10:15
ivokshussam yeah, mplayer10:15
bad_mongoSeveas, thank's10:15
ivoksdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main10:15
dave_so with the quake2 package thats was listed in package manager, how do i get that working?10:15
transgresshussam: so far the only one's i've needed are multiverse and universe repos10:15
camcorderwhat's the equivalent of chkconfig in ubuntu? which is used for enabling or disabling services in runlevels?10:15
Seveasivoks, switch from what to what?10:15
pablo928bad_mongo:www.ubuntuguide.org will set you up10:15
ivoksSeveas hoary to breezy10:15
hussamivoks: ok thanks10:16
Seveasivoks, if you are not an experienced user, DON'T switch10:16
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Seveasbreezy will show lots of breakages the coming weeks10:16
|QuaD-out of curiosity, does muine work for anyone? i have had it for a few months now, and it has never worked10:16
SkyNetsudo passwd wont change the root password. any idea what can be wrong?10:16
danthemanhas anyone here installed gmail notifier?10:16
ivoksSeveas thanks for concerne, but i'm using debian for couple of years...10:16
ivoksSkyNet sudo passwd root10:16
SeveasSkyNet, sudo passwd root10:16
Seveasivoks, sid?10:16
transgressdun do it!10:16
ivoksSeveas from potato to sid10:17
dave_ive added the extra reps in the guide but now i get these error when runnign package manager: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:17
dave_W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:17
dave_W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:17
|QuaD-Seveas: why do you think ti will break in the next few weeks?10:17
dave_W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-backports_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:17
kakaltowoah10:17
ivoksMAN!10:17
transgressoh fuck10:17
dave_W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-extras_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:17
transgressi hate you10:17
dave_W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-extras_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:17
ivoksomg10:17
Seveasivoks, yeah, but ubuntu's developmens breaks harder10:17
dave_W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-extras_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:17
kakaltodave_, #flood !10:17
transgressand i'm going to eat your fucking children10:17
transgresskick this fucker!10:17
Seveasdave_, CUT IT OUT IDIOTQ10:17
dave_W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-extras/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_hoary-extras_restricted_binary-i386_Packages)10:17
Seveas!!10:17
dave_sorry10:17
ivoksSeveas nice to know that :)10:17
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dave_didnt knwo it was that big!10:17
Seveasivoks, it's for the better10:17
kakaltodave_, haven't you ever heard of a pastebin or #flood ?10:17
transgressi'm still gonna eat your children10:17
transgressdave_: anything over 4 lines is too big10:17
dave_a pastebin?10:18
ivoksSeveas well... time will tell10:18
Seveas|QuaD-, gcc4 for wxample10:18
Seveasthat'll break a lot, but they'll fix it as fast as possible10:18
|QuaD-because of the flooding, no one probably read my last question, does muine work for anyone10:18
transgressdave_: you need to read the rules on freenode.net10:18
|QuaD-Seveas: my gcc4 never broke10:18
camcorderhow can I put a service to start up in boot ?10:18
ivoksSeveas turn that "they" into "we"10:18
ivokscamcorder use ln :)10:18
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Seveas|QuaD-, gcc4 also introduces an abi change for C++10:18
|QuaD-ok10:19
Seveasmeans a recompilation for everything10:19
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rootcamcorder you need to go to settings10:19
Seveasand more things like that :)10:19
|QuaD-Seveas: right10:19
ivokscamcorder like ln -s /etc/init.d/my-nice-program /etc/rc2.d/S99program10:19
Seveas|QuaD-, there'll also be a kernel update shortly after UdU10:19
ivoksSeveas yeah, gcc4 is big step10:19
ivoksall distros will have problems10:19
Seveasindeed10:19
|QuaD-Seveas: right, lots being released after udu10:19
shinulunitik: for which runlevel should i disable gdm?10:19
ivoksSeveas kernel update?10:19
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Seveasivoks, yeah10:20
ivokswhat kernel update?10:20
lunitikshinu: Debian only uses runlevel 210:20
Seveas2.6.1110:20
ivoksthat's not big update10:20
ivoksonly thing that breaks is ALPS touchpad10:20
ivoksin 2.6.1110:20
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Seveasivoks, well, they're doing more than just the kernel update i believe10:20
ivoksthat they'll need to change/fix10:20
Seveashardware support review oslt10:20
mwyldeUbuntu won't let me set the resolution of my monitor higher than 1024x76810:21
ivokswell.. time to go to bed :)10:21
ivokslong day tomorrow10:21
ivoksbye all10:21
mwyldeDo I need to install new video card drivers?10:21
XTCboardercan anybody help me with iptables? i can't have access to my computer from internet (eth0) but i can from my home lan (eth1), and i have some iptables commands i copied from somewhere whicch let me share my inet connection... can anybody help me making avilable port 80 and some other?10:21
ivoksXTCboarder ADSL?10:21
XTCboarderi think10:21
XTCboarderso10:21
ivoksXTCboarder if yes, then it isn't eth0, but ppp010:21
XTCboarderah no10:22
ivoksbye10:22
XTCboarderit's eth010:22
donar73good evening to all!10:22
XTCboarderit uses a cable dsl10:22
ivoksXTCboarder ifconfig says only lo, eth0 and eth1?10:22
Seveasivoks, not neccessarily10:22
XTCboarderyeah, i have lo, eth0 and eth1 only10:22
ivoksSeveas i know, here are all pppoe10:22
XTCboardereth0 configures by dhcp10:22
ivoksso i tought...10:23
camcorderhmm well i installed ssh-server, and now i'm doing ssh start, but it just fails and no logs to nowhere10:23
SeveasI have adsl, but the modem I got does the adsl stuff, so I still have eth0 :)10:23
ivokswell... night! :)10:23
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concept10anyone here use gmail10:23
camcorderhmm seems like it fail coz it's already running :P10:23
ivoksSeveas modem is in routing mode10:23
ivoksthat sucks10:23
mwyldeyeah10:23
aehoCan someone tell me name of CD-ripper what can do mp3:s?10:23
Seveasconcept10, /me10:23
mwyldeconcept10: yeah10:23
Nekrataalji10:23
SkyNethmm whenever i want to sudo, it keeps asking me the old password, although supposedly i have change it with sudo passwd root10:23
Nekrataali have a question10:23
SkyNetany ideas?10:23
Seveasivoks, no, doesn't suck10:23
XTCboarderseveas but that's not a normal conecttion... that's for getting online more computers and modems act as a router10:23
concept10does gmail allow you to have different email addresses?10:23
ivoksSeveas yeah, it does :)10:23
ivoksbye :)10:23
ivoksEOD :)10:23
Nekrataalis there any way to limit the Disk space on the home folder for other users?10:23
XTCboarder:(10:23
thegreedyturtleyou need an invite concept10?10:24
XTCboarderanyway10:24
Seveasconcept10, yes10:24
concept10or should I send a invite to myself10:24
mjrSkyNet, sudo wants your user pass, you changed the root pass10:24
XTCboardercan somebody help me with iptableS?10:24
thegreedyturtleyou can invite yourself10:24
concept10thanks10:24
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thegreedyturtleaeho: CD-EX10:24
concept10I still have 50 invites10:24
transgressto gmail?10:24
Nekrataali mean, i have a sister, and shee has an acount, but she's getting my hard drive full of Her stupid ass music, so i want to limit the Hard disk space she can use, how can i do that in ubuntu?10:24
lunitikconcept10: everyone does... use 20... a few hours later, you get 50 more10:24
SeveasNekrataal, read up on disk quota10:25
transgressi have 100 heh because i made a second account10:25
transgressconcept10: gmailFS10:25
concept10heh, wide open10:25
XTCboarder:(10:25
concept10transgress: whats that?10:25
danthemandoes anyone know a good gmail notifier for the tray or desktop?10:25
thegreedyturtleevolution works with gmail10:25
transgressconcept10: you can mount gmail as a filesystem10:25
thegreedyturtledon't know how it does notifications10:25
Seveasdantheman, use a regular mail notifier10:26
thegreedyturtletrillian has some gmail plugins10:26
transgressthegreedyturtle: only if you turn on pop mail for gmail10:26
thegreedyturtleright10:26
danthemanseveas: such as?10:26
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concept10transgress: are u the same transgress from #fedora10:26
Seveasdantheman, there are gdesklets for it10:26
transgressyeah10:26
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transgressi was in there for my short bout with fedora10:26
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kakaltofedora comes with too much stuff, I say10:26
mwyldeUbuntu won't let me set the resolution of my monitor higher than 1024x76810:26
thegreedyturtlehow many official ubuntu rooms are there?10:26
mwyldeDoes anyone know what the problem might be?10:26
concept10transgress: ooohhhh, im telling the boys10:26
QMarioHow do I make Perl print out random numbers in a certain range?10:26
lunitikconcept10: #fedora folks have to identify... so it is always the same person if you saw the username there  ;)10:26
Seveasthegreedyturtle, a lot :)10:26
transgressi almost put fedora on my lappy (well did... but didn't even use it) and eventually decided to go with ubuntu10:27
transgressconcept10: tell them i said gentoo was better ;)10:27
lunitikQMario: #perl might be more useful10:27
kakaltomwylde, did you allow for higher resoulutions when you configured xorg during installation/configuration?10:27
concept10transgress: ;)10:27
QMariolunitik, I'm banned. :(10:27
transgresshaha now why is that?10:27
lunitikQMario: good job10:27
XTCboardermwylde try configuring your X11 setup10:27
QMarioAre you being sarcastic?10:27
concept10i still use fedora but I like ubuntu and the community10:28
transgressyes he was10:28
XTCboarder/etc/X11/xorg.config if u use xorg10:28
lunitikQMario: never, I don't even know the meaning of the word10:28
QMarioHe does it again..10:28
XTCboarderor x86 something.config id u use cfree8610:28
transgressi find ubuntu runs quite a bit faster than fedora does10:28
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thegreedyturtlehow do i get a list of official ubuntu chat rooms?10:29
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QMarioCan someone ask that question in the #perl channel?10:29
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concept10maybe, the only reason I havent installed ubuntu is because I like the fedora/rh tools10:29
transgressthegreedyturtle: /list10:29
QMarioThe question is:  How do I make Perl print out random numbers in a certain range?10:29
lunitikQMario: no... but you could try asking google?10:29
QMarioThank You.10:29
shinulunitik: for which runlevel should i disable gdm? 5?10:29
lunitikshinu: no... 210:29
shinuuh...10:29
shinudamn10:29
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Seveasthegreedyturtle, #ubuntu #uvuntu-devel #ubuntu-kernel #ubuntu-meeting #ubuntu-love #ubuntu-motu and a lot of #ubuntu-$LANGUAGE rooms10:29
shinuthanks lunitik10:29
lunitikshinu: by default, Ubuntu/Debian, only uses 210:30
thegreedyturtleSeveas: thanks much10:30
concept10transgress: do you miss anything about fedora?10:30
transgressconcept10: no10:30
shinulunitik: oh right... gotta relearn that bit :)10:30
concept10transgress: everything working for you10:30
transgressconcept10: it's good and all... i wouldn't mind it all if i were running a large network10:30
concept10?10:30
danthemancan someone tell me how to install something from a tar.gz file?10:30
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danthemanls10:30
transgressconcept10: but i like things like say... custom kernels10:30
Seveasdantheman, usually it is the configure, make, make install dace10:30
Seveaswhat are you trying to install?10:31
concept10transgress: custom kernels with ubuntu?10:31
transgressconcept10: yeah everything works great for me... i put gentoo on that box and ubuntu on my lappy, and slack on my server...10:31
mwyldeconcept10: I've recently install ubuntu (I'm dual booting with FC3) and I miss the developer tools that are part of the default installation of FC.10:31
transgressconcept10: yeah i'll be doing 2.6.12 on it soon10:31
kakaltoisn't it amazing how much we say to each other via text10:31
agenteoa friend of mine has a problem on its monitor resolution with the ubuntu live cd, he said it's a 15' do you think editing the XF86Config he can change the refresh or make the X server work?10:31
QMariodantheman, tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz10:31
Seveasmwylde, apt-get install build-essential10:31
thegreedyturtleconcept10: ubuntu requires a 2.6 kernel at least10:31
transgresskakalto: i'm on 4 channels on this server, 2 on another and 4 on another... heh i lost that feeling a while back10:31
concept10I was thinking 2.810:32
Jimmothydoes ubuntu come with irssi already installed? and if so, compiled with perl support?10:32
shinuthanks a lot for help, ill probably need some more later on :D10:32
shinugtg bye10:32
SeveasJimmothy, apt-get install irssi :)10:32
kashhi everybody i try since a really long time to install somes packages from debian but i don't howcan i do to install those packages (sorry icome from mandrake....) can spemone explain me how ?10:32
kakaltotransgress, mate, I'm on 8 on this server, 2 on another, it definately makes ya lose track ;)10:32
transgressJimmothy: i believe it does... but if it doesn't it's easy to get10:32
QMarioHow do I unban myself from a channel?10:32
Seveasirssi-text even...10:32
lunitikSeveas: irssi-text you mean... and it is installed in Ubuntu by default10:32
transgressirssi is only text Seveas10:32
SeveasQMario, you can't10:32
LapseWhen installing ubuntu, is there like a partition manager? Like in mandrake. Or do I have to set up some partition before I install ubuntu?10:32
kakaltotransgress, the problem is when you say the wrong thing in the wrong channel :(10:32
dcravenQMario, why are you /msging me?10:32
QMarioHow do I get back in then?10:32
Seveastransgress, i know, but the package is called irssi-text10:33
dcravenQMario, you can't.10:33
SeveasQMario, you can't10:33
transgressoh10:33
XTCboarderlapse, it has a partition manager10:33
lunitikSeveas: you don't10:33
Jimmothyi don't have a problem compiling it if i have to :)10:33
QMarioI need to ask you a question.10:33
kashnobody ?10:33
Seveaslunitik, what?10:33
LapseXTCboarder, great, thanks. :)10:33
transgresskakalto: like "take off your clothes you little slut" in ##slackware?10:33
XTCboardercan somebody help me with iptables?10:33
QMariodcraven, that last answer was for you.10:33
kakaltotransgress, yeah :)10:33
lunitikSeveas: irssi-text is installed by default via ubuntu-desktop10:33
dcravenQMario, ask the channel. That's what it's here for. Ask your Perl question in #perl.10:33
Seveaslunitik, ok :)10:33
kashwell10:33
kash..10:33
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QMarioDidn't I tell you that I was banned?10:34
BockBilbohey there10:34
SeveasQMario, there will be a reason for it10:34
transgresskakalto: what's really funny is one of the servers i'm on is for work... and one of the channels is public for support shit... and if i say the wrong thing in there i'm fucked.10:34
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SeveasQMario, you can find your answer via google too10:34
karlguess you're shit out of luck then mario10:34
dcravenQMario, well I can see why... Don't /msg people without asking.. It's impolite.10:34
kakaltotransgress, yah, not kewl :)10:34
karlbut yeah, you have a damn simple perl problem, work it out10:34
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QMarioSorry, dcraven.10:34
QMarioSo, I'm banned forever?10:34
lunitikQMario: depends how much you pissed them off10:34
karlprobably not forever, but probably for 24 hours or so10:35
dcravenQMario, live and learn. And no, the ban is more than likely not permanent.10:35
QMarioWell, it was worth it.10:35
Li-Venomis there a ubuntu specific method to auto probe for video card and get the missing xserver module ?10:35
kashhum10:35
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djonesQMario, what did you do?10:35
QMarioI did the right thing.10:35
kashjust need a little help10:35
transgressLi-Venom: huh?10:35
karlahh, the right thing10:35
QMarioI just stood up for Jesus and that was all.10:35
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cjdavisOMG10:35
QMarioIs there anything wrong about that?10:35
lunitikLi-Venom: you mean the correct driver?10:35
karlyes :)10:35
dcravenQMario, you probably did not do the right thing, hence the ban.10:36
transgressQMario: stand up for jesus in ##slackware...10:36
Li-Venomtransgress: i installed my ubuntu on other machine10:36
lunitikLi-Venom: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:36
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dcravenQMario, you got banned for the same reason before.. You would think you'd learn by now.10:36
QMarioIt was the right thing in God's eyes.10:36
visjesi'm about to compile the wacom driver and it says it can't find the xorg sdk.. mad searching through synaptic found nothing.. is it in a nonstandard place, or.. ?10:36
karlbut god doesn't run irc10:36
djonesQMario, ask god your perl question10:36
transgressQMario: and look how much god helped you out there10:36
QMariodcraven, it is the same ban.10:36
visjesi have installed the x-window-dev package or whatever that is10:36
dcravenQMario, I suggest you keep your evangalism to yourself.10:36
Seveaskash, do you have he .deb files of those packages?10:36
karlperhaps you were looking for irc.zealot.org/perl10:36
Jimmothykarl: yeah i do10:36
concept10djones: lol10:36
QMarioDon't use God's name invain, dcraven.10:37
karljim: heh10:37
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SeveasQMario, quit it10:37
kashyes10:37
QMarioSee that's what I told them and they got mad.10:37
karlgod loves me more than you mario10:37
visjesqmario your god doesn't exist, sorry10:37
cjdavisi see another ban comming..10:37
Nermalwhy do you need to stand up for Jesus? can't he fight his own battles?10:37
dcravendjones, hahah.. That was good.10:37
Nermallazy bastard10:37
kashit is plone10:37
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Nermalanyhoooo10:37
Nermal:)10:37
Nermalweekend :D10:37
Seveaskash, you can find plone in synaptic10:37
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karlmy god is better than your god!10:37
QMariovisjes, My God does exist.10:37
concept10QMario: All I could suggest you do is respect others by keeping the religion out of the chat room10:37
dcravenGuys, please don't feed him.10:37
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Nermalmy god is beer, and I'm stroking him right now10:37
visjeslol10:37
QMario[See this is what happened in #perl] 10:37
lunitikkarl: My god has a bigger penis, so there  8)10:38
Nermalso naaah10:38
transgressi so just bashed that whole stupid god thing10:38
Seveaskash, system -> administration -> synaptic package manager10:38
Nermaliddqd :P10:38
dcravenQMario, see a trend?10:38
kashyes i did install it via synaptic but i don't know how to make it run ...10:38
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transgressby bashed i mean bash.org10:38
Nermalkash: erm.. read a howto :|10:38
Seveaskash, ah ok10:38
karlmy god's big brother will beat up your god10:38
kashi m quiete a nwbee10:38
visjesokay, let me rephrase.. qmario. no one cares. this is not a channel for uppity religious idiots, this is for ubuntu linux talk10:38
Seveasindeed, read the manual :)10:38
kashdo u know ??10:38
QMarioI know, but it still is the right thing to do.10:38
anthonyhi, just installed Ubuntu for the first time - what;s the default root password?10:38
transgressi love bash.org10:38
visjesso if someone knows where the xorg sdk is located, please let me know :)10:38
Seveaskash, /usr/share/doc/plone or something...10:38
visjesthere is no right and wrong, lol.. only popular opinion.10:38
transgressQMario: says you... now shut the fuck up before you get banned in another channel.10:38
kashok im gone try10:38
Seveaskash, or plone.org (oslt)10:38
kashthanks10:38
dcravenQMario, not in this context it isn't.10:38
QMarioThere is a difference between the right thing to do and the smart thing to do.10:39
karlreading bash.org is for people with even less lives than the people whose quotes make up bash.org10:39
Jimmothytransgress: then you'll love qdb.us10:39
dcravenlol10:39
lunitikQMario: forcing your beliefs on others is the right thing to do? no... shutting up about your beliefs is the right thing to do10:39
transgressJimmothy: thank you... i needed more ways to avoid work10:39
QMarioI'm not forcing my belief.10:39
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karllunitik! yes god says that everyone who doesn't believe is evil!10:39
SeveasPeople, stop feeding the troll, this is not a religious channel, please avoid the noise (and sorry for the color)10:39
karltheymust be killed!10:39
QMarioI'm just telling you what God wants told.10:39
mwyldeanthony: there isn't one10:39
concept10apt-get install God10:39
dcravenQMario, please drop it. Be the bigger man.10:39
karldpkg -P god10:39
Jimmothytransgress: qdb is run by the original guy, not the thieving sod who wouldn't hand back bash.org10:39
transgressQMario: yes you are forcing your beliefs...10:39
lunitikQMario: to say "don't use gods name in vain" intends to make me believe there is a god...10:39
dataw0lf|walright guys, let's calm down.10:39
QMarioHow?10:39
transgressJimmothy: i see10:40
kakaltoQMario, it's probably better to just keep you mouth shut10:40
Seveastransgress, lunitik, please....10:40
lunitikQMario: if its not... then who is God?10:40
cjdavishey, on more interesting topics, does anybody know much about alsa?10:40
dataw0lf|wQmario: just drop it.10:40
kakaltoor in this case, not type10:40
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visjesoh there is a god.. it's you. debate over.. XORG SDK PLEASE :D10:40
djonesQMario, you might find it quicker to get kicked out if you pick on the Operator directly10:40
karlanyone here waiting on linux help?10:40
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visjesyes!10:40
transgresswell i'm leaving10:40
QMarioThere is though, but you have a choice to believe in what I'm saying.10:40
cjdavisI'm trying to figure out the various extra outputs -- front, back, etc10:40
transgressbbl10:40
kakaltoQMario, this isn't the channel for religious discussion10:40
karlxorg sdk?10:40
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visjesyeah10:40
NermalQMario: we choose not to10:40
Nermalso we go to hell10:40
student22hey... can someone help me sth with ubuntu pls? ..on private10:40
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visjestrying to compile the wacom driver10:40
Nermalno problem10:40
QMarioExactly.10:40
SeveasAGAIN! People, stop feeding the troll, this is not a religious channel, please avoid the noise (and sorry for the color)10:40
dataw0lf|w/join #religiousrightwingfanatics, QMario10:40
Nermalwhat's it to you if we go to hell ?10:40
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concept10He doesnt stop, he is quite argumentative10:41
QMarioYou don't know what you're saying, Nermal.10:41
Nermalnone of your goddam (pun intended) business :)10:41
Nermalheh10:41
da5id_hi @ll10:41
Nermalscary10:41
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NermalQMario: proof please :)10:41
dataw0lf|wNermal: do you happen to have an extra window ticket? I lost mine.10:41
Seveaspeople, let's go back to what this channel is for...10:41
QMarioI care more about your souls than about getting kicked out.10:41
Nermaldataw0lf: somewhere.. one sec10:41
SeveasUbuntu help10:41
dataw0lf|wkthnx10:41
carambolhi is  hoary-backports not funtioning?10:41
QMarioSo does God.10:41
kakaltoNermal, don't get him started10:41
Jimmothy/ignore *!*qmario*@*.swbell.net10:41
visjesit wants to find the xorg sdk to compile wacom_drv.o.. i can't figure which package holds it. i've installed x-window-system-dev and that didn't include it :-/ can't find anything in synaptic (i have all repositories enabled)10:41
NermalJimmothy: ah yes10:41
kakaltoJimmothy, good suggestion10:41
QMarioWhy is it when I mention God, everyone starts talking to me.10:42
Nermalheh10:42
kakaltobecause he's a hot topic10:42
Nermalgod is linus, surely10:42
visjeshey mario, if god exists let him take me now.. right now. PLEASE TAKE ME NOW SO I DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS NONSENSE.. see? nothing. life is prosaic. sorry. now, back to linux.10:42
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Jimmothycos you're an attention whore, and god doesn't like those10:42
QMarioWhenever I ask a normal question, everyone ignores me.10:42
concept10Our work on Ubuntu is driven by a philosophy on software freedom that we hope will spread and bring the benefits of software technology to all parts of the globe.10:42
NermalI'm ignoring you now10:42
QMarioYour testing God.10:42
SeveasQMario, that's because you seem to be an ignorant fool10:42
kakaltoQMario, mate, people are touchy about that subject10:42
deltalimamario: you should try saying "Jesus" if you really want some attention10:42
NermalI'm testing breezy at the moment10:42
QMarioWhy?10:42
kakaltoand this isn't the right channel10:42
visjeslol10:42
Nermalseems stable enough10:42
QMarioDoes God convict you?10:42
visjesokay everyone let's just ignore him.. forget this noise. this is ubuntu10:43
SeveasNermal, instability will come after UdU10:43
concept10OMG10:43
kakaltoQMario, PM10:43
Nermalas stable as a building with half a horse in it :)10:43
djonesWhere is the OP for this room?10:43
jaminQMario, I believe in God and you're pissing me off, too.  This isn't a religious discussion channel, and frankly you aren't even close to saving any souls here.  You're just angering people.10:43
lunitikSeveas: UdU?10:43
da5id_i use ubuntu 5.04 hoary and my problem is that gdm has a bigger virtual resolution (something like 1280 x 1024) than actual resolution (1152x864) so that I have to scroll to find some options. If I log on and gnome starts everything is fine at 1152x864. Any ideas?10:43
QMarioYou know he exists, but choose to reject him, why?10:43
Seveaslunitik, ubuntu down under10:43
lunitikjamin: ignore him... or /msg him10:43
NermalQMario: you mean she ?10:43
lunitikSeveas: ohh...  :)10:43
pablo928Nermal isn't that 1/2 building with whole horse in it?10:44
Nermalpablo928: ah.. now you're thinking :)10:44
QMarioYou guys are right that I can't force you to believe in God , and I'm sorry if I did.10:44
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NermalQMario: you didn't, you just pissed off a lot of people and filled my screen with crap :|10:44
=== student22 is new in Ubuntu... i just installed it, but i really dont know how to enable my ethernet card - and i tried everything....any suggestions what to do? ... i wanna be online:)
AmaranthWhoa, someone was debating religion?10:44
Nermalstudent22: tried using the net manager in gnome ?10:44
dataw0lf|wstudent22: what's your ifconfig look like.10:44
pablo928Nermal Breezy scares me...I'm just getting hoary to work the way I want it10:44
AmaranthYeah, that's a major no-no.10:45
student22no10:45
dataw0lf|wAmaranth: wasn't really a debate.10:45
Nermalpablo928: seems ok10:45
concept10nobodys saying that, QMario - you bring your conversation to the wrong forum10:45
student22i am really new at linux10:45
visjesdebate? lol10:45
Nermalas is gay rights it would seem10:45
Nermaljudging by slashdot10:45
visjeswhat ethernet card do you have student22 ?10:45
kakaltostudent22, welcome to the world of opportunity.10:45
student22nvidia10:45
lunitikAmaranth: debate depics a meaningful discussion... gives him too much credit  ;)10:45
AmaranthPlease don't discuss religion or politics here.10:45
visjesonboard?10:45
Nermalstudent22: gnome - > system -> networks10:45
student22yes10:45
bradhey everyone, i installed bittornado-gui with synaptic and i can't figure out how to run it10:45
pablo928Nermal I'll try breezy in about 5 months....maybe a little sooner10:45
SeveasSABDFL is our god ;)10:45
da5id_anybody here knows about GDM?10:45
karlI'll try breezy in siz, and no earlier :)10:46
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concept10brad: have you tried running from CLI10:46
student22what is gnomw? :)) ...i type that in terminal?10:46
visjesokay.. yeah i have that too.. it's probably working you just need to set up your network (see Nermal's msg). are you on a DHCP network, do you know, or do you have static ip info?10:46
deltalimada5id: what do you want to know?10:46
bradCLI?10:46
Nermalkakalto: maybe he needs restricted modules or something for the nforce chipset :|10:46
AmaranthEveryone can worship $DEITY. $DEITY may or may not be set.10:46
lunitikda5id_: ask your question...10:46
student22gnome10:46
visjeswhen you login you are using gnome :)10:46
SeveasAmaranth, nice one10:46
Nermalthough there is a reverse engineered driver for the nforce ethernet no ?10:46
visjesunless you're using kubuntu?10:46
deltalimaCLI = command line interface10:46
concept10brad: command line, terminal, shell10:46
Amaranth</geek joke>10:46
student22i have a dynamic10:46
visjeslol10:46
pixmangreetings10:46
student22network10:46
djonesAmaranth, lol10:47
lunitikdeltalima: or Common Language Interface  ;)10:47
student22behind a router10:47
bradconcept10: yeah, i tried a bit, i typed which bittornado-gui10:47
Nermalstudent22: go to system -> administration -> network10:47
Seveasmaybe that was why QMario needed random10:47
student22yes10:47
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bradconcept10: to find the path to run it10:47
deltalimalunitik: suspicious10:47
da5id_lunitik I cant get GDM to run at the same virtual resolution as physical resolution10:47
lunitikdeltalima: ?10:47
[Johnny] hi plz help. How can I change to install Lilo instead of Grub?10:47
bradconcept10: is that the right way to go about it?10:48
da5id_my GDM seems to has a virtual resolution > 1152x864, which is the physical resolution10:48
Nermal[Johnny] : why would you want to ?10:48
visjesthat's kind of strange, doesn't ubuntu default to dhcp setup tho?10:48
da5id_so it keeps scrolling10:48
lunitik[Johnny] : apt-get install lilo and run it?10:48
lunitik[Johnny] : why do you want to do that though?10:48
concept10brad: not sure, i dont use that app, did you try to run it in the terminal?10:48
[Johnny] It is during installation on a small server dual 150 pentium after installing grub it will not starting up10:48
bradconcept10: how would i run it?10:49
deltalimalunitik: I was being fascetious10:49
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lunitikbrad: what you are you trying to run?10:49
anthonyOK, if there is no root password by default, how can I set one?10:49
bradbittorando10:49
shinuhey! its me again xD10:49
bradconcept10: bittorando10:49
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shinuhow do i check whether a program is installed?10:50
Seveasanthony, why would you want one?10:50
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Seveasshinu, dpkg -l10:50
da5id_anthony sudo su; passwd should solve your problem10:50
concept10brad: i thought it was bittornado?10:50
travail101where can I find a list of all packages on the LiveCD?10:50
[Johnny] the same for all other distro debian also not possible to start up in mbr with grub10:50
shinuSeveas: thanks a lot10:50
lunitikbrad: umm... dpkg -L bittorando | grep bin10:50
lunitikbrad: run whatever that says10:50
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mwyldeanthony: sudo passwd root10:50
thegreedyturtleshinu: you can use synaptic package manager as well10:50
lunitikbrad: Ubuntu uses gnome-btdownload though...10:50
shinuis glib not installed by default in ubuntu?10:50
thegreedyturtleshinu: just search for it and your package will appear10:50
lunitikshinu: umm... yeah it is10:51
shinuroot@Discworld:~ # dpkg -l glib10:51
shinuNo packages found matching glib.10:51
bradyeah i got rid of the default BT client and installed bittorando10:51
XTCboarderis there a GUI for manipulating iptables?10:51
lunitikshinu: it is the only reason GNOME programming doesn't suck10:51
thegreedyturtleshinu: BUT, if you didn't install a .deb package or use apt/packagemanager it won't appear in the package database10:51
bradi mean bittornado10:51
SeveasXTCboarder, you can try firestarter10:51
shinuoh...10:51
shinuthegreedyturtle: thats a bad point ^^'10:51
lunitikshinu: dpkg -l libglib2.0-010:51
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student22i tried all... automatic dhcp, manual.... i dont know why it doesnt want to connect....but ping works10:52
thegreedyturtleshinu: don't know which point it is, but ok10:52
shinuthegreedyturtle: the last one :D10:52
thegreedyturtleshinu: i haven't really been watchin the conversation so...10:52
shinu:D10:52
thegreedyturtleshinu: ah the .deb point, yeah10:52
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shinuthegreedyturtle: yes ^^'10:52
student22do i have to set also dsn or what?10:52
travail101google and the ubuntu site have not been very helpful...10:52
travail101is there no published list of the packages on the liveCD?10:53
bradthis is what it said...10:53
bradwhorush@k7:/$ dpkg -L bittornado-gui | grep bin10:53
brad/usr/bin10:53
brad/usr/bin/btcompletedirgui.bittornado10:53
brad/usr/bin/btdownloadgui.bittornado10:53
brad/usr/bin/btmaketorrentgui10:53
bradwhen i ran that10:53
lunitikbrad: run the last one10:53
anthonythansk10:53
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bradok, thats a start, but i'm not trying to make a torrent, i'm trying to seed torrents10:54
bradi used azerus on windows, but i can't figure out how to install java so i'm trying something that doesnt need it10:55
aehohow I can kill program in linux10:55
aehoxmms crashed10:55
lunitikbrad: azerus runs on linux...10:55
Seveasbrad, installing java is very simple10:55
ompaulaeho, killall xmms10:55
bradlunitik: right i know, but i cant figure out how to get java running and azerus needs it10:55
lunitikbrad: try gnome-btdownload though... its installed by default10:55
deltalimaaeho: xkill10:55
t3rrorbrb10:55
aehokillall xmms worked fine10:56
bradlunitik, i dont think that program is very good for seeding10:56
lunitikbrad: define seeding...10:56
ompaul:-)10:56
deltalimaaeho: that would work too10:56
travail101yeah... xkill is nice10:56
bradseveas, how do i install java?10:56
bad_mongodoes it exist a linux program that removes flash and crap in other browsers than firefox?10:56
travail101or... the task manager10:56
bradthe documentation for java is very scary10:56
kakaltobad_mongo, flash isn't automatically there on firefox10:57
travail101mozilla proper :-P10:57
shinuwhats a apt-get for a c+ compiler?10:57
shinuc++ i meant10:57
bradseeding is sharing it so others can download from from me10:57
kakaltogcc++ ?10:57
Seveasshinu, install build-essential10:57
deltalimashinu: g++10:57
shinuSeveas: thanks10:57
kakaltothat's the one10:57
travail101other than Ff... as in... konqueror? Opera? Netscape/Mozilla Seamonkey?10:57
travail101is this the question?10:58
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SeamusLPbrad:  Isn't java in the nonfree repository?10:58
bad_mongokakalto, no, but if you have flash installed in firefox, you can filter out what you don't want, with the adblocker10:58
SeveasSeamusLP, no10:58
SeveasSeamusLP, java licence is too restrictive10:58
SeamusLPbrad:  Check out sun's website and see if you can get a deb.  I can't remember, but I think that's how I did it.10:59
bad_mongoI'd love to have an adblocker in Opera.. it's the only thing missing in the browser10:59
SeveasSeamusLP, impossible10:59
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Seveassun doesn't make debs10:59
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frank__brad, for java, check the ubuntuguide10:59
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Levande1Anybody can recommend an IRC client that runs on Linux, XP, and MacOS?  I've been using gaim, but it doesn't have a couple of features I want.11:00
SeamusLPSeveas:  It shows up as a package, so clearly I got it as a deb... from somewhere11:00
ompaulstudent22, this is open source - ask in the channel and then someone may be able to help - guessing what the problem is not really possible11:00
ChipparnI cant get my mic to work.. correction, its working and i can hear my self swearing in the speakers but i cant get it to work with skype and sound recorder.11:00
ChipparnIn the sound recorder i can only hear the klicksounds beeing recorded, really strange , and when i try to talk with my friends on skype they can hear the klicksounds. when i say klicksounds i mean the small blipp blopp sounds in ubuntu when opening aplications and stuff. Any ideas?11:00
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SeveasSeamusLP, nackports maybe11:00
Seveasbut that is illegal11:01
SeveasSeamusLP, and there are other ways for java packages to show up, I installed dumm packages using equivs11:01
ompaulLevande1, I think that x-chat does - you will need to look at it further11:01
frank__Seveas, for java, check http://ubuntuguide.org/11:01
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Seveasfrank__, i know more than enough about java......11:02
travail101bad_mongo: and what's missing in Firefox? :-P11:02
Seveasi wasn't asking :)11:02
SeamusLPSeveas:  aha, found an rpm on the official site. Must have used alien.11:02
student22ok my problem is, that i cant enable my ethernet card.... but would really appreciate if someone could help me in private pls11:02
Ironfrostbad_mongo: read up on filter.ini within Opera11:02
frank__Seveas, lol sorry for assuming you didn't!11:02
Ironfrostit does basically what AdBlock does for Firefox11:02
ompaulstudent22, you have tried the networking tool?11:02
LinuxJonesstudent22, do you know what type of card your using ?11:02
student22yes11:02
Ironfrostexcept that you have to add entries manually11:03
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student22manual and automatic dhcp11:03
travail101anf firefox does basically what Opera does for free ;-)11:03
Ironfrosthttp://www.schrode.net/opera/url_filtering/11:03
travail101and*11:03
djonesstudent22, dhclinet?11:03
student22yes11:03
student22i have router11:03
ompaulstudent22, what kind of card is it?11:03
student22nvidia onboar11:03
student22d11:03
travail101but seriously folks.... how is there not a list of packages on the LiveCD?11:03
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LinuxJonesstudent22, like an nforce or something ?11:04
travail101for11:04
travail101not on11:04
travail101for the livecd11:04
student22yes11:04
travail101oh11:04
travail101yea... on11:04
LinuxJonesstudent22, do you know which version it is ?11:04
Ironfrosttravail101 - Opera is better with tab handling, with mouse gestures, with its download manager, with easy menu customisation, and many other advantages11:04
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student22and there is a ping...but when i start mozzila, it doesnt work11:04
IronfrostI'm not sure whether it's $20 better than Firefox, but it's definitely a superior product11:04
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student22just a min11:04
travail101Ironfrost: right.... but Firefox needs support, or it won't get better...11:05
traderjbAfternoon, everyone, I was wondering if someone could help me out with something11:05
kingsleyHow does one temporarily disable an ext3 file system's journal?11:05
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CB201quick newbie question:11:05
Seveastraderjb, just ask :)11:05
Ironfrosttravail101 - the same can be said for Opera11:05
Amaranthkingsley: Why would you want to do that?11:05
CB201how do I list all currently running processes, even those running in the background?11:05
holycowlol i'm reading the slashdot article on the new ms mantra that they conveniently copped from apple "it just works" ...11:05
travail101Ironfrost: but that's a whole notha issue, do you know of a list of the packages available on the LiveCD?11:05
SeveasCB201, ps aux11:05
Seveasor ps f -e11:05
student22no i dont know11:05
djonesCB201, ps -A11:05
holycow... and i'm sitting here bored out of my mind on ubuntu because everything does 'just work'11:05
travail101Ironfrost: but Ff is FOSS, Opera is not...11:05
CB201thanks11:05
kingsleyAmaranth: repartitioning11:05
shinuis ncurses-devel also available on apt-get?11:06
Seveaslol holycow11:06
Seveasshinu, yes11:06
Amaranthkingsley: Why would you need to disable the journal to repartition?11:06
crimsunshinu: libncurses-dev11:06
shinuapt-get install ncurses-devel?11:06
SeamusLPholycow:  That's why I love ubuntu ;) they can have their proprietary OSes any day.11:06
traderjbThankyou.  Ok, here goes.  I just installed Ubuntu (I'm a Linux newbie) and needed to configure my network via a control panel. I keep getting a dialog box asking for a password.  Now if this is for some root thing, I was never asked this during installation.11:06
shinuoh...11:06
Amaranthkingsley: You need to not have the partition mounted.11:06
Seveasshinu, libncurses5-dev11:06
Amaranthtraderjb: Put in your password.11:06
shinucrimsun: Seveas 5 or not 5?11:06
traderjbI tried that but keep getting the reply that it isn't the right password.11:07
shinuoops...11:07
crimsunshinu: doesn't matter11:07
student22well...i have epox 8rda+ motherboard and onboard ethernet...if that helps11:07
shinualright11:07
shinucrimsun Seveas thanks :D11:07
Seveasdennis@mirage ~ $ apt-cache search curses | grep -- '-dev'11:07
Seveaslibncurses5-dev - Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses11:07
Chipparnanyone?11:07
gahanhow do i install java?11:07
holycowSeamusLP, ever since i discovered debian i've had the that exact boredom issue, i'm still thining after all these years that i haveto be either defragging, or scanning for viruses, or removing spyware11:07
holycowi'm telling you, linux is no fun11:07
gahanhow do i install java for konqeueror?11:07
Amaranthgahan: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats11:07
djonestraderjb, are you not using the user account you created during install?11:07
SeamusLPholycow:  What, you want to have spyware? ;)11:08
traderjbI think I am.11:08
gahanAmaranth: i got restriced in sources.list11:08
holycowSeamusLP, just sayin' :)11:08
gahanAmaranth: i wonder what package name..11:08
Amaranthgahan: That isn't it.11:08
Seveasgahan, none11:08
Seveasjava is a bit more difficult to install11:08
Amaranthgahan: It's illegal for ubuntu to package Java, you have to install it yourself.11:08
LinuxJonesstudent22, in a console type sudo lsmod | grep forcedeth11:08
traderjbIt asked me for a full name (example Bob Somebody) and a login name (example Bob).  When I login, I use Bob11:08
Seveasgahan, read the page Amaranth pointed you to11:08
gahanaha so just like in debian:)11:08
djonestraderjb, do this for me, type 'users' in the console11:08
student22what is that for?11:08
traderjbOk, be right back, need to reboot to Linux.11:09
SeamusLPholycow:  In windows you can't even get a weather applet without contracting spyware.  In gnome it's just a couple clicks away.11:09
traderjbI'm on XP right now11:09
LinuxJonesstudent22, it lists the loaded modules in the kernel and will output forcedeth if it is currently loaded11:09
djonestraderjb, It's hard to configure your nic for linux while running windows, isn't it? ;P11:09
LinuxJonesstudent22, forcedeth is the nforce2 ethernet driver (it has a scarry name :D)11:09
student22and after that it will simply work??11:09
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student22hehe11:10
student22scary yes11:10
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holycowLinuxJones, rofl11:10
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LinuxJonesstudent22, we are just trying to see if it's already loaded11:10
LinuxJonesholycow, :P11:10
student22well and what after that?11:10
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LinuxJonesstudent22, did that command output anything ?11:11
holycowi gotta see what the unichrome driver release by via results in, i wonder if we will get some native decent ogl performance on embedded graphics chips11:11
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student22sorry... in ubuntu i cant be on internet, hehe...if ethernet doesnt work:)11:11
Chipparnhmm.. not getting any help here.. and on the forums i meaby get a reply in a few days.. :( . anyone has any ideas on my microphone problem? i can hear the mic in the speakers but it records the ubuntu system sounds. really strange.11:11
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student22i am on win xp now11:11
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LinuxJonesstudent22, ok your dual booting ?11:11
xerxes1358omg11:12
student22yes11:12
xerxes1358ubuntu is so damn nice11:12
da5id_hi again, I found a not so good solution11:12
bckdoes anyone have cedega installed? cvs version or got the deb-file somewhere?11:12
xerxes1358everything just works out of box11:12
GammaRaya small thing I noticed that was really neat... I left the gedit print dialog open and added a new printer and it automatically popped up on the print dialog as quickly as the printers config window.11:12
xfSxhow to uninstall a deb package?11:13
holycowChipparn, system / preferences / multimedia  system selector ... try using a different default source server11:13
GammaRayapt-get remove11:13
da5id_I changed my /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default so that it sets the resolution to 1280x1024 with xrandr -s 311:13
LinuxJonesstudent22, write down that command and if it doesn't output anything. in console type sudp modprobe forcedeth (this will load the support for your ethernet card). Then do sudo network-admin and select your card and set it to dhcp.11:13
holycowGammaRay, really? i gotta try that11:13
thenukexfSx: apt-get --purge remove if you want to get rid of the configs and so on also11:13
danthemandoes anyone here use gtray?11:13
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thenukenormally you would want to do that --purge11:13
da5id_still this means I always change resolutions from GDM to Gnome11:13
holycowGammaRay, oh right, also, if you hit the plus icon, you can add printers from the dialog11:14
LinuxJonesstudent22, sorry type sudo modprobe forcedeth11:14
holycowgnome is awesome, i wish more apps used its dialogs natively11:14
da5id_anybody an idea why GDM keeps its virtual resolution? Or where it is set?11:14
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zero[] how can i make a keyboard shortcut for xKill?11:14
GammaRayholycow: yea.. I was trying several drivers w/ an hp jet direct. No direct driver for the oki 650 it was attached to.11:14
holycowzero[] , system / preferences / keyboard shortcuts11:15
zero[] ah, thanks11:15
SeamusLPxerxes1358:  But gentoo is .5% quicker in gnome! ;)11:15
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xerxes1358SeamusLP, yeah whatever11:15
xerxes1358lol11:15
xerxes1358:D11:15
xerxes1358SeamusLP, wow seriously dude this is so cool11:16
SeamusLPyeah man, coming from gentoo myself I thought ubuntu was the best damn thing in the world.11:16
xfSxubuntu is pimp.11:16
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zero[] hm, i don't see kill here and there doesn't seem to be a way to add11:17
xerxes1358It has the ease and usability of SUSE and the speed of Debian. This is reallty awsome11:17
GammaRayI like how gnome is adding features in a thoughtful way but I dislike how it takes so long. I guess my only recourse is to learn gtk...11:18
shinuthanks again :D11:18
holycowGammaRay, exactly11:18
holycowzero[] , *hmmm* you are correct, i don't know either11:18
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zero[] holycow: is xKill the best way to terminate non-responsive programs?11:18
SeamusLPGammaRay:  I hear pyGTK2 is really nice for application development.  Not as fast as C, of course.11:18
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holycowzero[] , killall programname works11:19
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GammaRaySeamusLP: well I already know C so the lang isn't really the blocking point11:19
holycowzero[] , however gnome kills unresponsive programs anyway ... ?11:19
holycowzero[] , or are you worried about hung processes when you kill an unresponsive app, say like when totem hangs on a dvd or something?11:19
zero[] holycow: the problem is if i start quake 3 arena while xmms is running, i just get a black screen and i can't do anything.. if i Alt+TAB then i can see the applications list but everything is just black, i had to ctrl+alt+backspace, so i thought if i had a shortcut for xKill would be better11:20
xerxes1358Are all the internals of ubuntu the same as Debian ?11:20
xerxes1358Can I buy a Debian based Linux book on filesystem, security and rc ?11:21
|QuaD-xerxes1358: interneals? i assume the answer is yes11:21
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holycowzero[] , i don't know, that is a good question11:21
LinuxJonesxerxes1358, yes you can11:22
Elephantmanhi11:22
LinuxJonesElephantman, hiya11:22
|QuaD-xerxes1358: ubuntu is based of debian, but there are modifications11:22
xerxes1358LinuxJones, let me ask it this way: in how much does ubuntu differ from debian ?11:22
Elephantmanhow can I swap VLC video player output to XSHM ?11:22
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|QuaD-xerxes1358: a lot and a little11:22
|QuaD-xerxes1358: other than the no root idea, its the same11:22
holycow|QuaD-, i've not thought the modifications are big at all11:22
holycowor rather, i HAVE thought ...11:23
|QuaD-holycow: some are some aren't11:23
xerxes1358guys 1 question: during install I didnt get the chance to set root password. Is this normal ?11:23
|QuaD-the no root modification is huge11:23
SeamusLPzero[] :  Seems like xmms is getting exclusive to your sound card and quake3 doesn't like it.11:23
xerxes1358what ?11:23
LinuxJonesxerxes1358, basically it's the same but Ubuntu has it's own release schedule and packages some apps or services with different default configurations11:23
|QuaD-xerxes1358: there is no root in ubuntu by default11:23
holycowxerxes1358, there is no root in ubuntu11:23
xerxes1358?11:23
xerxes1358what the hell ?11:23
xerxes1358but that is not good11:23
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holycowactually it's better11:24
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holycowyou use sudo for all admin rights which is safer11:24
holycowBUT11:24
SeamusLPxerxes1358:  Your user has sudo access to all programs11:24
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|QuaD-xerxes1358: there is root level things, just no root account11:24
|QuaD-though you can enable root11:24
xerxes1358oh11:24
xerxes1358ok11:24
holycowthe problem that you run into is that your USER PASS is your ROOT PASS ... WHICH IS VERY BAD11:24
zero[] SeamusLP: yeah, i was thinking of trying to load up quake3 using oss drivers, but more importantly wanted to figure out a shortcut to kill apps first11:24
xerxes1358yes yes As long as there is root level acces its ok11:24
bckwhat if someone knows your password, he has root access11:24
|QuaD-bck: no one should know your password11:24
holycowone suggestion has been to setup a super user named ADMIN that can do sudo, and all other users without sudo rights for for all but a few things11:24
bckyeah sure, but if!11:25
LinuxJonesxerxes1358, for instance Ubuntu doesn't allow any services (like postifx for example) to accept connections from the Internet by default11:25
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bckif you have 2 different users with 2 different password it's imho safer11:25
holycow|QuaD-, thats not a good suggestion tho ... most user passwords are WEAK, never mind that they should be strong11:25
SeamusLPzero[] :  KDE has one for sure I think11:25
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xerxes1358ok but how can I enable the root ?11:25
holycow|QuaD-, which is really the shortcomming of the current setup, the root password ends up being a WEAK user pass, no good, that needs to be fixed11:25
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shinuand me again...11:25
SeamusLPzero[] :  Like, by default...  Not sure how to do that in gnome11:26
zero[] SeamusLP: yeah, KDE is more customizable when it comes to these sort of things. but i still like gnome =)11:26
|QuaD-holycow: mine isnt weak, mine is like 12-15 chars, with upper and lower case, numbers, charachters, etc11:26
bckxerxes1358, sudo su11:26
Ironfrostwhat's a good CD/DVD writing tool? Is Gnomebaker the best, or is there something better?11:26
shinuwhy do i have a problem running network-admin?11:26
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holycow|QuaD-, you are not an average user, and ubuntu really makes it easy for an average user to use linux11:26
LinuxJonesxerxes1358, you should check out www.ubuntuguide.org it has lots of Ubuntu-related help for the basics.11:26
kyncanixerxes1358: sudo -s to get a root shel11:26
shinuwhen i run from the icon in gnome it says wrong password11:26
GammaRayIronfrost: tried graveman?11:26
LinuxJonesIronfrost, I like Graveman11:26
shinuwhen i run it from terminal it dumps an error11:26
|QuaD-holycow: well, then maybe suggest toubuntu dev's that they make some sort of password validator11:26
shinu(network-admin:26000): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:11:27
xerxes1358no I mean can say I want to enable the root account again?11:27
IronfrostGammaray, Linuxjones - thanks, I'll try that11:27
holycow|QuaD-, no i will never do that, i will suggest that they create an admin account with a strong password requirement, and user acounts with no password testing11:27
LinuxJonesshinu, sudo network-admin11:27
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LinuxJonesIronfrost, it's very good11:27
|QuaD-holycow: why?11:27
holycowand infact i have, i think i need to be more persuasive :)11:27
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holycow|QuaD-, because my suggestion makes more sense than the other suggestion that all users are root/admins ... this is linux not windows11:28
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|QuaD-holycow: everyone should have strong passwords11:28
TraderjbHello everyone.  Ok had to log off from a different computer, is this the same room I was in before?11:28
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holycow|QuaD-, i don't see that ever happening, even if people use phrases that are easy to remember11:28
TraderjbI was the poor dope who needed help on passwords and root stuff11:29
shinudamn... i know why it didnt work... i think i put the wrong password11:29
shinubrb11:29
TraderjbSome nice person told me to go and type "users" in a terminal11:29
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|QuaD-holycow: well, i don't see how you can say that people shouldn't have strong password11:29
|QuaD-s11:29
Nasdaq7the following story about microsoft's support of linux is quite interesting: i wonder what you guys think about it?11:29
Nasdaq7http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=112000027XIO11:29
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holycow|QuaD-, i didn't, i just don't see it ever happening realistically, people will always either have weak pass or no pass logins, its just the nature of the situation, giving joe six pack sudo to everything therefore is just bad :)11:30
TraderjbWell, if I am in a different room, maybe one of you good folk out there can help me out?11:30
Traderjb:)11:30
Saint33can someone plz help me with a CD/DVD Creator problem... it's really important...11:30
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travail101LiveCD package list... does it exist?11:31
|QuaD-holycow: well, i don't really care about how people create passwords, chances are anyone who needs the security has secure passwords, if not, they should learn more about using the technology they use and deserve to have their password cracked11:31
TraderjbI just got this Ubuntu linux11:31
EvilSporkManwhat pitfalls will i run into if i install ubuntu and then pretend it's debian without worrying too much about the documentation?11:31
Saint33When I try to burn my cd from the cd/dvd creator it fails saying "incorrectly encoded string"11:31
TraderjbAnd need to configure my networking for wifi.  It seems that I can do much, because I get a popup dialog box asking for my password11:32
Saint33any ideas how I can fix this... it's my only way to backup my files...11:32
TraderjbWell I give my user password, but it says it is incorrect11:32
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holycow|QuaD-, oh i agree, but the problem is not 'should' or 'could' the problem is the default 'assumption' ... joe six pack has sudo access to everything, thats just bad imho11:32
TraderjbWhen I installed Ubuntu, it never once asked me for a root password of any kind.11:32
sophie_msumuhello11:32
TraderjbPlease help11:32
sophie_msumucan someone please give some help on GDM11:32
Traderjb<:)11:32
RemenicTraderjb: that's right11:32
TraderjbRemenic, am I missing something here?11:33
RemenicTraderjb: try sudo instead of su :)11:33
|QuaD-holycow: chances are if joe six pack has sudo access to everything its a home computer and doesn't need to be uber secure11:33
TraderjbWell how do I use sudo on the pull down menu?11:33
sihenhello all11:34
Saint33When I try to burn my cd from the cd/dvd creator it fails saying "incorrectly encoded string"... how can I fix this...???11:34
holycow|QuaD-, really? i use it at work and it's also the 'default assumption' ... don't you think there needs to be a dialog about that decision?11:34
holycowduring install i mean11:34
RemenicTraderjb: pull down menu? what pull down menu?11:34
|QuaD-holycow: to be honest, its not something i think about11:34
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|QuaD-i think about my own security, and hope people know how to make passwords11:35
TraderjbWell, my desktop seems to be GNome, and it has this pull down menu with a submenu that says Administration.11:35
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holycow|QuaD-, obviously :)11:35
holycowlol11:35
|QuaD-the problem is most people transmit their passwords to nonsecure site's anyways11:35
sophie_msumucan someone please give some help on GDM ?11:35
RemenicTraderjb: if it prompts for a password, enter your own password11:35
|QuaD-soo the strength of passwords don't matter11:35
TraderjbThere it has neat things like Networking, Users and GRoups, Ubunntu Update maanger11:35
RemenicTraderjb: password of the user you're logged in as11:35
zero[] great, figured out how to make custom keyboard shortcuts, if anybody is interested in doing so11:36
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sihen_Hello all11:36
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TraderjbI tried that, Remenic, but I get another dialog box with a big red stop sign type thingy, and a message saying: Failed to run shares-admin: Child terminated with 1 status11:37
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TraderjbI don't think I'm registered as an admin or something11:38
djonesTraderjb, glad you made it back11:38
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sihenHello all could someone possible help me out?11:38
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TraderjbWhy thankyou djones!11:39
zero[] sihen: tell your problem and then maybe11:39
djonesTraderjb, to make your user an admin at the console, adduser <username> admin.11:39
sihenany idea where I can get a copy of the ubuntu source.list file for apt? I seem to have broken mine11:39
ubiSihen, What is your problem?11:39
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matt1987has anyone used citrix ica client on ubuntu yet11:39
zero[] sihen: i can show you a copy of mine if you want11:39
matt1987and can help me11:39
sihenzero[] , anyway u could send me a copy of it?11:40
zero[] sure11:40
zero[] 1 sec11:40
sihenta11:40
Traderjbdjones, just tried it, it says only root can add a user or group to a system11:40
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XandriXno window moving11:40
djonesTraderjb, oops! Um... sudo adduser Traderjb admin11:41
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TraderjbOh11:41
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Traderjbgimme a second11:41
djonesthen it will request a pass, use your pass, if it works, then you already are admin :)11:41
QMarioDo a lot of people in this room sleep?11:41
Remenicdunno11:41
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matt1987has anyone used citrix ica client on ubuntu yet11:42
QMarioDoes anyone here use GMail?11:42
Traderjbok, it says now that I am not on some list.  Man, this is just like real life, first I'm not part of the cool kids in school, now my computer thinks I'm not good enough!11:42
RemenicQMario: I do11:42
IronfrostQMario - yes11:42
djonesTraderjb, lol11:42
TraderjbIt is now saying that my name is not on some sudoers file.11:43
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TraderjbAnd that I'm being reported!11:43
djoneslol11:43
djonesdid you create a second user? you did didn't you.11:43
Traderjbno11:43
TraderjbIt never asked me11:43
QMarioIs sial.org down?11:43
TraderjbI did the default installation after I downloaded Ubuntu and burned it on a disc11:44
djonesTraderjb, by default there is no root acount and the user you create during the install is an admin.11:44
TraderjbSo why is my computer being a jerk to me?11:45
djonesTraderjb, this may seem over simplistic, but... is CAPS on?11:45
TraderjbLet me check11:45
Traderjbno11:45
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pablo928 Traderjb -was it on when u installed?11:46
matt1987has anyone used citrix ica client on ubuntu yet11:46
Traderjbnope11:46
TraderjbOtherwise, I could not log on as me11:46
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djonesTraderjb, ah, that is true. very weird stuff11:46
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QMarioIs sial.org down?11:48
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TraderjbI don't want to go back to windows.  Please folks, in the name of that is nice, sweet or cheesy, there's gotta be a way!11:48
kakaltoisn't it funny how there's "security problems" on google under konqueror, but if I identify as firefox, there's no error message11:48
QMarioThere is always a way, but maybe you can't see it yet.11:48
kakaltogmail, I mean11:48
djonesQMario, it's up11:48
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matt1987has anyone used citrix ica client on ubuntu yet11:48
QMarioWhen I try to go to the side, it says the operation has been timed out.11:48
QMarioIs it possible to be banned from the site too?11:49
djonesQMario, did you stick up for Jesus there?11:49
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matt1987anyone got the command to get limewire pro11:49
QMarioI kind of tried to talk to the people in #perl via sial.org.11:49
QMarioHeh11:50
tuxadmyou need to boot up linux with the init=/bin/bash option Traderjb11:50
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Traderjbok, how do I do that?11:50
elishi all. total linux newbie here. can anybody help me fix this error please. i just tried to do a apt-get dist-upgrade and got the following error(s).....11:50
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b0olhi11:51
matt1987is no one listening to me11:51
b0olgot a small problem11:51
tuxadmedit the /boot/grub/menu.lst11:51
elisPreparing to replace kdelibs-data 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (using .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb) ...11:51
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b0olgot a mp3 file and it says its 30 mins long although it has only about 5 mb!11:51
b0oli think i need another mp3 codec but which one?11:51
elisdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--unpack):11:51
b0oland how to get it?11:51
elistrying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf11:52
elisErrors were encountered while processing:11:52
elis /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb11:52
elisE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)11:52
matt1987elis: try using sudo befor u enter a command line11:52
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elismatt1987: sorry, yes i did do that11:52
matt1987ok11:52
QMariodjones, any suggestions?11:53
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QMarioWho is the operator of this room?11:53
djonesQMario, hit the refresh11:53
elisi tried logging into kubuntu/kde to try it but found that the panel applet is broken. i t was the same result as in gnome thugh anyway11:54
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QMario It's still not working.11:54
hybrid_hello all11:54
QMarioI may have been kicked out, again.......11:55
hybrid_does anyone have sound working on mplayer that is using ppc11:55
hybrid_**is on ppc11:56
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jcoleuh11:56
jcolewhat do i add to my sources.list to get tomcat?11:56
hybrid_tomcat?11:56
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jcoleapt-cache search --names-only tomcat gives nothing11:57
jcolehybrid_: ya, it's in debian11:57
holycowjcole, you enabled universe in sources.list?11:57
hybrid_jcole: o ok i thot it was a release :P11:58
b0olhelp :11:58
b0olpls11:58
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jcoleholycow: it's not there11:59
nickrudelis, you should file a bug, with a complete copy of the install run.11:59
matt1987hellp! some one please11:59
b0olwhere can i get another mp3 codec? i have trouble with some of my mp3s11:59
b0olor where can i get a wma plugin for xmms11:59
matt1987whats the difference between the dvd and cd iso versions11:59
b0ol?11:59
holycowjcole, oh your right, weird11:59
hybrid_does anyone have sound working on mplayer g4 on ppc11:59
nickrudonly one package is allowed to own a file, and two claim it on your system.12:00

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