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| _matej | TNXXXXXXXX!!! | 12:02 |
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| _matej | :) | 12:02 |
| _matej | wiiiiiiiiiii | 12:02 |
| _matej | it works ;) | 12:02 |
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| Anlar | yes, you retard managed to read some instructions after all. | 12:03 |
| KaiL | theD3viL: glxgears >1000fps? | 12:03 |
| KaiL | (you need to let it run for around 10sec) | 12:04 |
| theD3viL | 8223 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1644.600 FPS | 12:04 |
| theD3viL | =) | 12:04 |
| Anlar | fglxinfo or something alike should tell better if his 3d is proper | 12:04 |
| KaiL | ok. | 12:04 |
| theD3viL | :> | 12:04 |
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| gdh | 553 frames in 6.0 seconds = 92.167 FPS - *rawk* | 12:06 |
| whiskers | i am afraid that ubuntu is going to have to release a new version with better libraries say within 6 months | 12:06 |
| gdh | feel my Matrox mystique power... | 12:06 |
| Anlar | whiskers: the libraries are just fine. :) | 12:08 |
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| whiskers | Anlar, well the debian sid libraries are way ahead of ubuntu | 12:13 |
| Anlar | so? | 12:13 |
| whiskers | Anlar, and many important applications like kexi and krita will make use of the latest libraries | 12:13 |
| Anlar | yes. but the libraries are not needed yet since kexi and krita have not been packaged for ubuntu. | 12:13 |
| Anlar | so the point of whining is moot. | 12:14 |
| whiskers | Anlar, no...they are not needed yet because the work is not ready for prime time | 12:14 |
| whiskers | Anlar, but it will be. | 12:14 |
| Anlar | no one forces you to use (k)ubuntu. | 12:14 |
| gdh | the joy of choice and open source. you want bleeding edge? take your crying to gentoo | 12:14 |
| Anlar | I've been using unstable gentoo for the last year. | 12:15 |
| whiskers | gdh, i don't have a large enough hard disk for gentoo | 12:15 |
| gdh | whiskers: I don't have enough free time for gentoo :) | 12:15 |
| Anlar | ~20 gigs do fine with gentoo. | 12:15 |
| gdh | oddly enough I use my computer to do work, not compile software. | 12:15 |
| whiskers | gdh, well that is ashame...how are you ever going to compare a gcc4 compilation performance with a gcc3.3. performance | 12:16 |
| Anlar | hey, the kdelibs / kdelibs-data issue was fixed in the sources too | 12:17 |
| gdh | whiskers: True, many a sleepless night I've spent mulling that very dilemma :) | 12:18 |
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| Si | Hi all. I have a quick question about konqueror in Kubuntu, if you don't mind :) I'd like to set konqueror up so that it automatically updates its directory listing (I use it as a file manager only) whenever a file in that directory changes. | 12:24 |
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| Si | Ordinarily I'd use fam, but it is not installed and attempting to install it threatens to remove the whole of KDE! Can anyone help me with this? | 12:25 |
| whiskers | Si, well you have to go over to kde.org and let them consider your ideas | 12:26 |
| whiskers | Si, then they will decide if your ideas are worth implementing | 12:26 |
| KK|Grass | time to eat :D | 12:26 |
| gdh | (usually after 3 or 4 months) | 12:27 |
| Si | whiskers:I don't really think this is a KDE problem. In other distros, it works fine with fam - it's just that in Kubuntu, fam is not installed. | 12:27 |
| whiskers | Si, oh ...well in that case maybe it is just some configuration parameter already designed by KDE | 12:27 |
| Si | Ok. Has noone else here tried to get this up and running? It's a pain having to manually press refresh all the time ;) | 12:28 |
| whiskers | Si, well we are too busy trying to keep up with all the stuff on slashdot | 12:28 |
| Si | Heh - I see :) | 12:29 |
| whiskers | Si, sometimes there are many slashdotters interested in saying something about an issue...that it takes the whole day just to read them all | 12:29 |
| Si | Ok, I'll hack on it later and see if I can get it working with gamin. Just out of interest, am I the only one who actually finds this feature desirable? | 12:30 |
| whiskers | Si, uh...i would think it would be nice to have a refreshed view....i get the same type of problem in nautilus on gnome when i change CDs | 12:31 |
| whiskers | Si, it tries to list the files of the old CD | 12:32 |
| Si | Oh, and here's a little perl script I wrote to make reading slashdot a little more bearable: http://tastethegoonage.com/slashdotgrab.html | 12:32 |
| Si | I think it's all up to date. | 12:32 |
| whiskers | Si, hey that is nice work...you mean you don't have to keep clicking on the subcomments | 12:33 |
| whiskers | Si, you get to see them all on one page | 12:33 |
| Si | Whiskers:That's right, and when you reload, all the comments that were loaded last time are greyed out, so you don't have to load them again. | 12:34 |
| whiskers | Si, wow...that is brilliant work. | 12:34 |
| whiskers | Si, i bet a lot of people will like that | 12:34 |
| Si | Whiskers:There's quite a few flaws, though - for one, it doesn't actually log in, so it doesn't use any of your preferences (e.g. threshold, etc). | 12:35 |
| Si | Whiskers:Thanks :) | 12:35 |
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| randabis | hmm this is weird | 01:11 |
| gahan | sudo is weird | 01:12 |
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| randabis | sudo rocks | 01:16 |
| randabis | anyway, I'm getting an apt-get error with kdelibs-data | 01:17 |
| KaiL | dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb | 01:17 |
| KaiL | known Bug :) | 01:17 |
| KaiL | not shure, if the bug is in the Package or in dpkg, because this is very strange | 01:18 |
| gahan | what package contains kcontrolcenter? | 01:20 |
| KaiL | kcontrol | 01:20 |
| KaiL | (which is also the name of the binary :) | 01:21 |
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| gahan | if i want my windowskey to run kde menu..? | 01:27 |
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| randabis | hmm amarok won't start :/ | 01:36 |
| smouche | randabis, might you have other sound apps running? | 01:40 |
| smouche | gahan, I don't think there's any way to get the windows key to work on its own -- best you can do is in combination with other keys | 01:41 |
| smouche | I use the windows key for all sorts of stuff like that, very convenient, avoids keybinding conflicts | 01:41 |
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| kakalto | I'll be bacxk | 02:13 |
| Soyburg | I am trying to make a kmenu entry for firestarter and have tried 'sudo firstarter', which didn't work. What command should I use instead if I want to be prompted for the password? | 02:15 |
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| gbhat | anyone having problems due to KDE update from Kubuntu yesterday? | 02:17 |
| theD3viL | hm | 02:18 |
| theD3viL | what update? :P | 02:18 |
| Soyburg | i upgraded today and have none so far. May I ask if your problems occured after a reboot and what kind of problems they are? | 02:18 |
| Soyburg | at the bottom of my question is of course, whether I should shut down my box tonight .) | 02:19 |
| gbhat | kde-libs update | 02:19 |
| gbhat | my bad kdelibs-data | 02:20 |
| gbhat | Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ... | 02:20 |
| gbhat | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--unpack): | 02:20 |
| gbhat | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf | 02:20 |
| gbhat | Errors were encountered while processing: | 02:20 |
| gbhat | /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb | 02:20 |
| gbhat | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 02:20 |
| gbhat | that is the error I get on running apt-get upgrade | 02:21 |
| Soyburg | I did it with kynaptic and had no errors. | 02:21 |
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| gbhat | well I am running Ubuntu | 02:21 |
| gbhat | have installed KDE on it using apt-get so I reckon it is recognised as kubuntu | 02:21 |
| Soyburg | wait just a second, i recall seeing a thread in the mailing list archive | 02:22 |
| gbhat | Hoary btw | 02:22 |
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| gbhat | Soyburg, got a link? | 02:22 |
| leafw | any powerpc user with problems using wireless LANs with encryption? | 02:22 |
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| Soyburg | http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2005-April/000540.html | 02:23 |
| Soyburg | no idea if that helps, I didn't read it. | 02:23 |
| gbhat | that command no worky | 02:26 |
| gbhat | some wrong option set for dpkg | 02:26 |
| gbhat | Soyburg, alright that worked. TY | 02:28 |
| Soyburg | you are welcome | 02:29 |
| gbhat | now to see if KDE works | 02:29 |
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| mikerobi | just installed kubuntu, but my old kde settings are being ignored, what do I need to do? | 02:33 |
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| AceMan | gbhat: have you tried removing knetworkconf first, then installing kdelibs-data, and finally reinstalling knetwork conf? this worked for me. | 03:08 |
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| KaiL | [GStreamer Error] ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program | 03:12 |
| KaiL | uhm? wtf? | 03:12 |
| KaiL | (error in amarok) | 03:12 |
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| Blissex | KaiL: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#sharing | 03:16 |
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| KaiL | lol, only gstreamer thinks, this is a problem | 03:16 |
| KaiL | tvtime works, artsd works | 03:17 |
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| KaiL | ...and the other two amarok engines too... bad for gstreamer *dpkg -P* | 03:26 |
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| smouche | speaking of Amarok, in "Configure Amarok" under the engine tab, I have no sound system listed -- anyone know why? | 03:35 |
| smouche | also, is there anyway to turn off the eye candy in that thing? | 03:35 |
| mfilizzi | smouche: do you have the amarok-arts package (or any of the other ones) installed? | 03:36 |
| smouche | let me check mfilizzi | 03:36 |
| smouche | yeah, amarok-arts | 03:37 |
| smouche | I see I think -- I had assumed I was using xine, but that's not installed for Amarok... | 03:38 |
| mfilizzi | hmm, odd, that is the one that provides the arts engine for the sound system. | 03:38 |
| mfilizzi | you can install the xine engine if you would like to use it (apt-get install amarok-xine) | 03:39 |
| smouche | well, mfilizzi, it's playing fine -- I was just wondering why nothing was listed | 03:39 |
| smouche | and I'm surprised that Amarok needs a seperate package for xine -- I have totem-xine installed; other apps seem to use it | 03:39 |
| smouche | thanks for the lead, mfilizzi | 03:40 |
| mfilizzi | I believe the debian package has them all bundled together, but in ubuntu they broke it up | 03:40 |
| bubi | does anyone knows how can i install newest version of kvirc 3.2 the one provided with kubuntu is outdated and it seems i cant get it thru apt | 03:40 |
| smouche | very strange, but I'm getting a much wider stereo image with amarok than I did with other players... | 03:41 |
| smouche | maybe I'm imagining it! | 03:41 |
| smouche | ugh -- I wish I had left well enough alone | 03:44 |
| smouche | E: kdelibs4: subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt) | 03:44 |
| smouche | E: amarok-gstreamer: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured | 03:44 |
| smouche | E: amarok-xine: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured | 03:44 |
| bubi | heh looks like noone uses kvirc here | 03:45 |
| smouche | etc (sorry to flood) | 03:45 |
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| brazmetal | hey people... I think I have some modules I don't need.. How can I disable then in Kubuntu ? | 05:35 |
| Riddell | brazmetal: what do you mean by module? | 05:40 |
| brazmetal | Riddell, I don't know very well... I think the ones that appear when i run lsmod (It lists the modules running, right?) | 05:42 |
| Riddell | brazmetal: they won't do any harm | 05:43 |
| Riddell | you can try sudo rmmod foo | 05:43 |
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| brazmetal | Riddell, how they don't do any harm? Don't they make the system heavy ? | 05:54 |
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| Riddell | brazmetal: they are unlikely to add any weight to your computer | 06:31 |
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| stranger | if i want to take a database server out of automatic startup at boot...how is the best way to do that...just take the file out of init.d | 06:43 |
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| jiger | hello everyone. doesn't kubuntu/ubuntu come with C/C++ installed? | 08:45 |
| jiger | damn nobody has any idea??!?!! | 08:47 |
| torpid | is there any fast convenient way to just download every file in an http directory? | 08:55 |
| shogouki | wget -R ? | 09:05 |
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| shogouki | wget -r | 09:06 |
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| torpid | actually i need something different | 09:24 |
| torpid | i need to download every file directly linked to by links in a page. | 09:25 |
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| shogouki | torpid: wget -r -l 1 url doesnt work ? | 09:37 |
| torpid | i'll try | 09:37 |
| torpid | no, it just gets the index.html, which is the only file in this directory | 09:38 |
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| shogouki | can you paste the url ? | 09:38 |
| whiskey_1 | has anybody successfully compiled rekall to see what shape it is in | 09:39 |
| whiskey_1 | i am having the toughest time to set it up....it can't find the qt3 libs | 09:39 |
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| whiskey_1 | i thought it may help until kexi is ready | 09:40 |
| whiskey_1 | has anybody tried to compile rekall at all | 09:40 |
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| Choubaka | right... | 09:57 |
| ztonzy | heh | 09:58 |
| ztonzy | nice | 09:58 |
| edulix | hi ! | 10:00 |
| edulix | I want to control fans and such things via i8k kernel module | 10:00 |
| edulix | wich graphical program do you recommend ? | 10:00 |
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| edulix | I'm looking one for kde | 10:01 |
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| bubi | hello | 10:03 |
| bubi | did anyone tried to install Kvirc 3.2 on kubuntu | 10:04 |
| bubi | i cant | 10:04 |
| bubi | actually i dont know how to install Qt | 10:04 |
| bubi | :( | 10:04 |
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| Choubaka | bubi: just install kvirc using synaptic or similar | 10:08 |
| Riddell | bubi: sudo apt-get install kvirc | 10:10 |
| bubi | that gives me only an old kvirc 2.1 | 10:12 |
| Choubaka | aha | 10:16 |
| shogouki | bubi: apt-get install konversation ? ;) | 10:16 |
| gahan | how do i get my windows key to open kde menu? | 10:16 |
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| bubi | shogouki: ur funny im using konversation right now :P | 10:17 |
| bubi | but kvirc is more likeable to me | 10:17 |
| bubi | Choubaka: i tied to install deb package but it gives me errors | 10:18 |
| bubi | tried* | 10:18 |
| Choubaka | where did you get that deb? | 10:19 |
| bubi | on kvirc page | 10:19 |
| Choubaka | hmm... | 10:19 |
| bubi | official release | 10:19 |
| buz | you could try building it yourself | 10:19 |
| bubi | i tried but wants Qt and i dont know how ti install Qt | 10:20 |
| Choubaka | bubi: hmm | 10:20 |
| buz | try apt-get build-dep kvirc | 10:20 |
| buz | maybe it has the same deps as kvirc 2.1 | 10:20 |
| Choubaka | build a debian package. | 10:20 |
| Choubaka | wait | 10:20 |
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| Choubaka | Hmm. | 10:24 |
| buz | the debs are compiled against qt 3.3.4 | 10:24 |
| Choubaka | I wonder from what sources they compiled the debs | 10:24 |
| Choubaka | the default source tarball isn't debianised. | 10:24 |
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| bubi | as i understood the tarball is os independent | 10:26 |
| Choubaka | Well, it could still be debianised. :) | 10:27 |
| Choubaka | mplayer's tarball is debianised, for example. | 10:27 |
| Choubaka | all you need is a properly set up debian/ dir | 10:27 |
| bubi | i am new to debian in general, i used to have FC3 before | 10:27 |
| Choubaka | bubi: where does it fail? | 10:27 |
| bubi | QT | 10:28 |
| Choubaka | in ./configure? | 10:28 |
| bubi | yes | 10:28 |
| buz | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kvirc: | 10:28 |
| buz | kvirc depends on kvirc-data (>= 2:3.0.0); however: | 10:28 |
| buz | Version of kvirc-data on system is 2:2.1.3.1-2. | 10:28 |
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| buz | kvirc depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4); however: | 10:28 |
| buz | Version of libqt3c102-mt on system is 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3. | 10:28 |
| buz | dpkg: error processing kvirc (--install): | 10:28 |
| buz | dependency problems - leaving unconfigured | 10:28 |
| buz | Errors were encountered while processing: | 10:28 |
| buz | the first one we could probably fix with another deb | 10:28 |
| Choubaka | alright... | 10:29 |
| bubi | thats deb package | 10:29 |
| buz | the second one is probably not even true | 10:29 |
| buz | can we somehow hack the deb to depend on 3.3.3? | 10:29 |
| buz | i doubt it won't work with 3.3.3 | 10:29 |
| guran | Hi, anybody here know howto solve pb's when upgrading 'kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb'? | 10:29 |
| Choubaka | They're compiled for sarge. | 10:29 |
| buz | yeah | 10:29 |
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| buz | but qt 3.3.3 would probably be compatible with 3.3.4 | 10:29 |
| Choubaka | know what? | 10:30 |
| Choubaka | I found the sources for the debs | 10:30 |
| Choubaka | so I can compile one for Hoary. :) | 10:30 |
| buz | mhh it got monster dependencies to build from source it seems | 10:30 |
| bubi | Choubaka: does that mean i can hope for :) | 10:31 |
| buz | while were at it | 10:31 |
| buz | when do we get kaffeine ubuntu3 in hoary??? | 10:31 |
| bubi | brb | 10:32 |
| Choubaka | buz: you probably won't. | 10:32 |
| Choubaka | ubuntu doesn't get that many new packages. | 10:32 |
| Choubaka | only security updates. | 10:32 |
| buz | you know the current version is totally broken do you? | 10:32 |
| Choubaka | no I didn't | 10:32 |
| Choubaka | Then they probably will fix it :) | 10:32 |
| buz | they did | 10:32 |
| buz | only didnt put it to the mirrors :-( | 10:32 |
| buz | now if someone would fix udev on breezy.... | 10:33 |
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| buz | but that doesn't bother me today | 10:34 |
| buz | i got exam results and i'm happy ;-) | 10:34 |
| malte | \o/ | 10:34 |
| Choubaka | bubi: I'm compiling a nice Hoary package now. | 10:38 |
| Choubaka | just wait. :) | 10:38 |
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| bubi | and waiting :P | 10:42 |
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| bubi | buz u got results today ?? | 10:44 |
| buz | yeah | 10:44 |
| bubi | its saturday here | 10:44 |
| buz | so it is here | 10:45 |
| bubi | no school | 10:45 |
| buz | mail still gets delivered ;-) | 10:45 |
| bubi | hehe true | 10:45 |
| shogouki | a modern school | 10:45 |
| bubi | what are u studying | 10:45 |
| buz | economics | 10:45 |
| bubi | nice | 10:45 |
| === bubi is old | ||
| bubi | long sice school days :) | 10:46 |
| bubi | since* | 10:46 |
| buz | well i'd rather be 5 years older so i coul dhave surfed the dot com wave | 10:46 |
| bubi | :) | 10:47 |
| buz | chances are i wouldnt have to work these days ;) | 10:47 |
| shogouki | and go in space and found a cool debian based distro ? :) | 10:47 |
| buz | something like that yeah | 10:47 |
| buz | only i'd probably have based it around BSD ;) | 10:47 |
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| Almindor | is there a way to turn on antialiasing for GTK apps? | 10:56 |
| Almindor | (of fonts) | 10:56 |
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| Choubaka | Damn, the compilation takes time :< | 11:12 |
| bubi | what comp u have | 11:13 |
| bubi | brb need reboot | 11:14 |
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| spiral | hi | 11:19 |
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| bubi | uhm how can i kill a kdetv | 11:23 |
| bubi | it does not want to end | 11:23 |
| bubi | bash: kill: kdetv: arguments must be process or job IDs | 11:25 |
| bubi | how can i get that id | 11:25 |
| Choubaka | pidof kdetv | 11:25 |
| Choubaka | or just kill `pidof kdetv` <- note they're backticks | 11:26 |
| bubi | hmm pidof kdetv freezes console :( | 11:26 |
| Choubaka | I have a 1.2GHz Duron processor and 512 MB of RAM. | 11:26 |
| Choubaka | bubi: ? :| | 11:27 |
| Choubaka | hmm | 11:27 |
| Choubaka | ps -A|grep kdetv | 11:27 |
| Choubaka | does it show <defunct>? | 11:28 |
| bubi | when i enter the command : kill `pidof kdetv` cursor jumps into next line and thats it | 11:28 |
| bubi | nothing | 11:28 |
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| bubi | blank line | 11:28 |
| Choubaka | try ctrl-C to break the process :P | 11:28 |
| Choubaka | bubi: then kdetv isn | 11:28 |
| Choubaka | isn't running it seems | 11:29 |
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| bubi | kdetv: Unexpected argument 'isn'. | 11:29 |
| bubi | kdetv: Use --help to get a list of available command line options. | 11:29 |
| Choubaka | :D | 11:29 |
| Choubaka | I didn't mean you to run that. | 11:29 |
| bubi | ahh lol | 11:29 |
| bubi | im a newbie | 11:30 |
| bubi | sorry | 11:30 |
| Choubaka | No need to apologise | 11:30 |
| Choubaka | You'll get the hang of things eventually. | 11:30 |
| bubi | hehe i hope | 11:30 |
| bubi | so what is this "isn" mean | 11:30 |
| Choubaka | I just pressed enter by accident. | 11:31 |
| Choubaka | :P | 11:31 |
| bubi | ahh | 11:31 |
| bubi | and i was so eager to run it in console :P | 11:31 |
| Choubaka | When asking for help on IRC, you get to use the console a lot | 11:32 |
| Choubaka | it's not because Linux distros are difficult and there's no GUI for the tasks. | 11:32 |
| bubi | so any other way to get rid of this kdetv, i tried to reboot but it starts automatically | 11:33 |
| Choubaka | It's because the command line is several times faster and more powerful than most GUI apps :P | 11:33 |
| bubi | yeah i know that :P | 11:33 |
| bubi | learned in the old DOS days | 11:34 |
| Choubaka | the dos command line is nothing compared to modern shells though | 11:34 |
| Choubaka | :) | 11:34 |
| bubi | well u have to have in mind that i started to use Linux just a few months ago | 11:34 |
| Choubaka | Yeah, sure. | 11:35 |
| bubi | i made a permanent decision to never again install win on my comp | 11:35 |
| Choubaka | Cool. | 11:35 |
| Choubaka | Let's hope you can stay that wayl | 11:36 |
| Choubaka | s/l/./ | 11:36 |
| Choubaka | I don't have windows on aby of my computers either. | 11:37 |
| Choubaka | any* | 11:37 |
| Choubaka | damn I'm typoing again | 11:37 |
| Choubaka | ohh. | 11:37 |
| Choubaka | :( | 11:37 |
| Choubaka | Just after I managed to get those kvirc packages compiled, too. :P | 11:38 |
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| Choubaka | welcome back :P | 11:40 |
| bubi | heh my comp just rebooted it self :( | 11:40 |
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| Choubaka | ?( | 11:40 |
| shogouki | maybe a new feature of workrave ? :) | 11:41 |
| bubi | while i was typing a message here | 11:41 |
| Choubaka | It shouldn't do such things. | 11:41 |
| Choubaka | that's too windowsy :( | 11:41 |
| bubi | i guess it has something to do with this annoying kdetv | 11:41 |
| bubi | i cant get rid of it :( | 11:41 |
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| bubi | anyways hows compiling goes :) | 11:42 |
| Choubaka | done :) | 11:42 |
| bubi | \o/ | 11:42 |
| Choubaka | just after you got connection reset :P | 11:43 |
| bubi | Choubaka: where are u from | 11:43 |
| Choubaka | Finland | 11:43 |
| bubi | uhh cold | 11:43 |
| Choubaka | nah | 11:43 |
| bubi | im from slovenia | 11:43 |
| Choubaka | :) | 11:43 |
| Choubaka | now wait a moment, I'll put the packages online | 11:44 |
| bubi | kk | 11:44 |
| shogouki | so cold that only hobbies are to create kernels | 11:44 |
| bubi | lol | 11:44 |
| bubi | not true they have some of the best bands | 11:45 |
| bubi | specially in metal area :P | 11:45 |
| bubi | like Nightwish and likes | 11:45 |
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| bubi | Choubaka: i have to go to store to do some shopping ill be back in an hour | 11:49 |
| Choubaka | hmm | 11:50 |
| Choubaka | wait | 11:50 |
| Choubaka | deb http://choubaka.no-ip.com/~jarkko/ ./ <- I created an apt repo. | 11:51 |
| Choubaka | you can of course just download the packages from that url directly. :p | 11:51 |
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| jnoon | how can i get a volume control on my panel? the arts control applet says "arts control cannot be loaded. please check your installation" | 11:56 |
| jnoon | sound works... | 11:57 |
| jnoon | just no nice volume control :/ | 11:57 |
| shogouki | kmix ? | 11:58 |
| bubi | Choubaka: what command do i have to issue for thaT | 11:59 |
| Choubaka | bubi: add the repo to your sources.list | 11:59 |
| bubi | with deb infront ? | 11:59 |
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| Choubaka | yeah | 12:00 |
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| Choubaka | deb http://choubaka.no-ip.com/~jarkko/ ./ | 12:00 |
| Choubaka | note that I only have 50kB/s upstream :P | 12:01 |
| bubi | ./ at the end ? | 12:01 |
| Choubaka | yeah | 12:01 |
| Choubaka | that entire line | 12:02 |
| Choubaka | nothing else | 12:02 |
| Choubaka | there's also a source repo :) | 12:02 |
| Choubaka | (to comply with the GPL :P) | 12:02 |
| jnoon | shogouki, thanks kmix works good... | 12:02 |
| bubi | hehe | 12:02 |
| bubi | apt or dpkg ? | 12:03 |
| Choubaka | you can apt-get install kvirc now | 12:03 |
| bubi | cool | 12:03 |
| Choubaka | and it should get the newer version | 12:03 |
| buz | lets see if its any good | 12:03 |
| Choubaka | is it downloading the newer version? | 12:05 |
| bubi | yeh | 12:05 |
| bubi | :) | 12:05 |
| buz | yeah | 12:05 |
| buz | Setting up kvirc (2.1.3.1-2) ... | 12:06 |
| buz | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://choubaka.no-ip.com ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/choubaka.no-ip.com_%7ejarkko_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 12:06 |
| buz | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://choubaka.no-ip.com ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/choubaka.no-ip.com_%7ejarkko_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) | 12:06 |
| buz | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems | 12:06 |
| Choubaka | oh, it installed the old version :( | 12:06 |
| Choubaka | weird | 12:06 |
| bubi | \\\\\O////// | 12:06 |
| bubi | yeah | 12:06 |
| buz | stupid me | 12:06 |
| buz | i forgot apt-ge tupdat | 12:07 |
| bubi | Choubaka: u are a god :P | 12:07 |
| bubi | it works | 12:07 |
| Choubaka | bubi: :D | 12:07 |
| bubi | i always knew u finnish ppl are the best | 12:07 |
| bubi | judging by the music | 12:07 |
| bubi | ofc | 12:08 |
| buz | true | 12:08 |
| buz | land of nightwish, after all | 12:08 |
| bubi | yeah | 12:08 |
| Choubaka | :P | 12:08 |
| bubi | my kind of stuff | 12:08 |
| buz | tho nightwish used to be better before they got famous | 12:08 |
| bubi | well i like them even now :P | 12:09 |
| buz | yeah sure | 12:09 |
| buz | but their older albums are better imho | 12:09 |
| bubi | now i really have to run | 12:09 |
| Choubaka | So, hmm. | 12:09 |
| bubi | bbl | 12:09 |
| buz | oceanborn has a safe place in my top albums of all time list | 12:09 |
| Choubaka | I only really ran two commands to build those packages ;P | 12:10 |
| buz | and used some time | 12:10 |
| buz | nice | 12:10 |
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| |buz| | lets see | 12:11 |
| Choubaka | 13:11 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from |buz|: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' - 2005.02.26 - build Sat Apr 23 08:38:52 UTC 2005 :) | 12:12 |
| |buz| | mhh kinda overloaded this thing | 12:14 |
| |buz| | not sure if i don't prefer konversation | 12:14 |
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| Choubaka | you kde people have a huge selection of IRC clients. :P | 12:18 |
| Choubaka | I only know one decent GTK2 client. | 12:18 |
| buz | most gnome apps suck anyway | 12:18 |
| Choubaka | I disagree :P | 12:18 |
| shogouki | we only need gimp (and maybe firefox) | 12:18 |
| buz | possible exception synaptic | 12:19 |
| buz | ok firefox | 12:19 |
| buz | but thats no real gnome app | 12:19 |
| buz | thunderbird, too | 12:19 |
| Choubaka | besides, KDE lacks proper input method support.. | 12:19 |
| buz | and gimp probably got the worst gui ever | 12:19 |
| buz | krita already beats it senseless | 12:19 |
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| buz | btw where did those krita debs live again | 12:20 |
| buz | i accidentally removed krita | 12:20 |
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| buz | ah no | 12:20 |
| buz | still here | 12:20 |
| buz | weird | 12:20 |
| Choubaka | but saying "most gnome apps suck" is not wise. :P | 12:20 |
| buz | as if nautilus or evolution was any good | 12:21 |
| Choubaka | I don't use either. | 12:21 |
| Choubaka | oh, well, "gnome" apps may suck | 12:21 |
| Choubaka | but "most" GTK2 apps don't | 12:22 |
| Choubaka | I don't use Gnome anyway :) | 12:22 |
| shogouki | ubuntu% apt-cache search krita | wc -l | 12:24 |
| shogouki | 0 | 12:24 |
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| shogouki | :/ | 12:25 |
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| gahan | my kdm doesnt display user list as it did before... why? | 12:55 |
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| jnoon | any ksokoban pros? :) | 01:24 |
| shogouki | jnoon: blocked ? | 01:26 |
| jnoon | lol.. sasquatch level 2... thats a bad sign i guess | 01:28 |
| shogouki | jnoon: move all blocks on the right | 01:33 |
| shogouki | push the right most block to top | 01:33 |
| shogouki | then all others on left | 01:34 |
| shogouki | then on bottom | 01:34 |
| shogouki | push the block on the bottom to right | 01:34 |
| shogouki | er left | 01:34 |
| jnoon | ok so ive got 2 filled and 2 in the open | 01:35 |
| shogouki | the push the block on your top right to bottom | 01:35 |
| shogouki | its ok ? | 01:36 |
| jnoon | think so | 01:36 |
| shogouki | damn i'll play ksokoban for the rest of the day :/ | 01:37 |
| jnoon | lol | 01:37 |
| jnoon | i get stuck with 3 filled and 1 in a spot where i cant move it or else it will be unmovable | 01:37 |
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| shogouki | lets be more scientific, the (0,0) point is the piece of wall at bottom left | 01:39 |
| jnoon | k | 01:40 |
| shogouki | (1,2) (3,3) (4,4) (6,7) | 01:41 |
| shogouki | have you gems at these places ? | 01:41 |
| shogouki | ksokoban needs a movement im/export function :/ | 01:42 |
| jnoon | no.. let me coordinate | 01:42 |
| jnoon | if 0,0 is the first playable game area square... i have 1,2 2,3 3,4 and 4,5 | 01:43 |
| shogouki | for me (0,0) s a wall :) | 01:44 |
| jnoon | with landing spots in 0,1 1,1 and 5,5 5,6 | 01:44 |
| jnoon | does your actually show the coords.. ie 0,0 or are you just figuring them? mine doesnt have coords | 01:45 |
| jnoon | ksokoban 0.4.2 sasquatch level 00002 | 01:46 |
| shogouki | http://n.mo.free.fr/temp/soko.png | 01:46 |
| jnoon | ok thats the one | 01:47 |
| shogouki | have you this ? | 01:47 |
| jnoon | yep | 01:48 |
| shogouki | i number gems from left to right | 01:48 |
| shogouki | 2 on bottom, 3 on top | 01:48 |
| shogouki | 3 right, top right | 01:48 |
| shogouki | 2 top, left, bottom | 01:49 |
| jnoon | ok i get the numbering.. but does top bottom right left mean push it that way or be on that side? | 01:51 |
| gahan | can someone tell where are my desktop icons hidden | 01:51 |
| shogouki | push | 01:51 |
| jnoon | wow that made it so easy | 01:52 |
| jnoon | i couldnt get them seperated for my life.. thanks! | 01:52 |
| jnoon | i musta spent an hour before this lol | 01:52 |
| jnoon | gahan /home/yourusername/Desktop? | 01:52 |
| shogouki | thrid level is more complicate, i dont get it | 01:53 |
| jnoon | no worries | 01:53 |
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| shogouki | damn i had passed so many sokoban levels before, but it was in my exams revisions, i was more motivated :) | 01:56 |
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| bubi | where can i find all runing pids in kubuntu | 01:59 |
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| buz | ps waux | 02:01 |
| buz | or top | 02:01 |
| bubi | ?? | 02:01 |
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| AMIGrAve | hi all | 02:04 |
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| candyban | Hi guys | 02:05 |
| candyban | Is it possible to make konsole translucent? | 02:06 |
| candyban | (not the "transparant" copy part of the background image and paste it in the konsole back) | 02:06 |
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| jnoon | shogouki, finished level 3... a bit tedious but more obvious at least to me... but then again i was just learning the game on level 2 | 02:13 |
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| AMIGrAve | is there something in kde that can quickly make an html photo album ? | 02:46 |
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| ubuntu | list | 02:53 |
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| SpookyET | Hi. | 03:10 |
| SpookyET | I had to reinstall xp, and grub was overwritten. I'm wondering how to make the XP boot loader to boot kubuntu. I've looked at some articles, but they all have NTBoot -> Grub -> Linux. There is no Grub anymore. Can it be made to NTBoot -> Linux? | 03:12 |
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| Anlar | spooky: you hve to you the grub. install it on the partition, not on the mbr | 03:16 |
| Anlar | spooky: on your /boot partition that is | 03:17 |
| Anlar | or at least it is more handy and working that way. | 03:17 |
| SpookyET | it's been overwritten | 03:19 |
| SpookyET | how can i recover it | 03:19 |
| Anlar | you can mount/chroot into your linux and reinstall it from there | 03:19 |
| SpookyET | i can't boot into linux | 03:20 |
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| Anlar | if you don't have any livecds around, you deserve it | 03:21 |
| SpookyET | i got slax | 03:23 |
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| kernelpanik | chi parla italiano? | 03:34 |
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| TechLord_Work | anyone here | 03:43 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | to do what techlord? | 03:44 |
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| TechLord_Work | kaffeine won't play dvd's it just crashes | 03:45 |
| TechLord_Work | it also crashes when i try to change xine engine prarmeters | 03:45 |
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| TechLord_Work | i also can't find a xine executable on my system | 03:47 |
| Kyaneos | hello | 03:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | can you find xine with whereis? | 03:47 |
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| Kyaneos | hello | 03:48 |
| theD3viL | hi | 03:48 |
| Kyaneos | i have a problem | 03:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok.... | 03:48 |
| Kyaneos | i have installed a server-expert kubuntu | 03:48 |
| TechLord_Work | if finds 2 dir one is /usr/lib/xine the other in /usr/share/xine | 03:48 |
| Kyaneos | and now i have installed kde | 03:48 |
| theD3viL | . | 03:48 |
| Kyaneos | but i have problems with su/sudo | 03:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the usr/share/xine would be the app | 03:49 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | what problems, not there? failing? whats up kyaneos | 03:49 |
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| IronRoses | hello | 03:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi | 03:50 |
| IronRoses | I just tryed to update kubuntu and theres a broken package..lol | 03:50 |
| TechLord_Work | i wish it was but it's a folder that has libxine1/fonts in it | 03:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. so you dont have the app | 03:50 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: if i try, in kcontrol, change to administrator mode, it prompts me and when i write the root password, it says: Conversation with su failed | 03:50 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :| wtf techlord_work? | 03:51 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | kyaneos, open konsole, and type su or sudo in there, see what happens | 03:51 |
| theD3viL | i installed tuxracer and supertux but they arent in menus ... wtf? games aint in menus... how can i enable it ? | 03:51 |
| IronRoses | well, i set a root password up, and now kubuntu thinks i have 2 root passwords and keeps changing back to username pass then back to the root pass i set | 03:51 |
| IronRoses | it's pretty shit | 03:52 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: if i type su it requests me a password | 03:52 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | thed3vil, its not a standard package. | 03:52 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | you need debian menu or similar | 03:52 |
| alex_kubuntu | hi everyone ! | 03:52 |
| theD3viL | how can i get it? | 03:52 |
| IronRoses | hey | 03:52 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: i type the root password and it prompts me to # | 03:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | apt | 03:53 |
| alex_kubuntu | does anyone know what is the package name for a KDE color selector in kubuntu ? | 03:53 |
| theD3viL | apt-get install debian menu or something? :S | 03:53 |
| IronRoses | it's apt-get install menu | 03:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kyaneos, can you past it to the screen (minus the password) | 03:53 |
| theD3viL | tnx | 03:53 |
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| theD3viL | ;) | 03:53 |
| Kyaneos | kyaneos@nabucodonosor:~$ sudo kuser | 03:53 |
| Kyaneos | kyaneos is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. | 03:53 |
| Kyaneos | kyaneos@nabucodonosor:~$ | 03:53 |
| theD3viL | wait i will try | 03:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i think its menu thed3vil | 03:53 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not debian menu | 03:53 |
| TechLord_Work | kamping_kaiser i don't appear to the the xine executable on my system. what package would i want to install to get that | 03:54 |
| theD3viL | Kamping_Kaiser: k, i will try now | 03:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | try xine | 03:54 |
| theD3viL | Kamping_Kaiser: installing.. | 03:54 |
| theD3viL | Kamping_Kaiser: must i restart X ? | 03:54 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dont think so, but you might have to | 03:54 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: any idea?? | 03:54 |
| IronRoses | this kubuntu is awfull, you try ti update and it complains about broken packages, you set a root password up andthen it reverts back to user pass then back to the set root password you just made.....This is bollocks.. | 03:54 |
| theD3viL | Kamping_Kaiser: nothing happens just install it... i will try restart X .. brb | 03:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kyaneos, so you have any other user acounts installed? | 03:55 |
| Kyaneos | yes | 03:55 |
| TechLord_Work | Kamping_Kaiser xine command not found | 03:55 |
| Kyaneos | kyaneos user is added to the system | 03:55 |
| Kyaneos | it is different that in ubuntu | 03:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kyaneos, whatever user you added first, use that for sudo, | 03:56 |
| Kyaneos | in ubuntu root password is the same tha user password | 03:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | try su yourusername | 03:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no, in ubuntu there IS NO ROOT | 03:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | techlord | 03:56 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: and what password i type?? | 03:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | try apt-cache search xine | 03:56 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | see what that produces | 03:56 |
| IronRoses | the pass you made when you set you user account up in the install | 03:56 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | yes. thats the sudo password. your not actualy using the root acount. | 03:57 |
| alex_kubuntu | any hint for my problem ? | 03:57 |
| theD3viL | Kamping_Kaiser: TNX, its working... but now is smailiar fonts, its great... tnx 100000x | 03:57 |
| alex_kubuntu | i am looking for the package name for kde color selector... | 03:57 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: i did it | 03:57 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sory no alex_kubuntu | 03:58 |
| shogouki | alex_kubuntu: kcoloredit / kcolorchooser | 03:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cool hte devil | 03:58 |
| theD3viL | :D | 03:58 |
| IronRoses | has anyone tryed updating kubuntu yet? | 03:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | great kyaneous. whats with it? | 03:58 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: what i do now?? | 03:58 |
| theD3viL | hmmmmmmmmmm......... | 03:58 |
| alex_kubuntu | thanks you ! | 03:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kyaneos | 03:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | so you got into your other acount? | 03:58 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | NOW try sudo | 03:59 |
| Kyaneos | i got in the same acount | 03:59 |
| theD3viL | Kamping_Kaiser: 1 more problem..... in login screen i have 1280x1024 and i wanna have 1024x786.. what to do? :S | 03:59 |
| Kyaneos | sudo what? | 03:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thed3vil try pressing ctr+alt+"-" | 03:59 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sudo anything | 03:59 |
| IronRoses | theD3vil, i have it on that resolution now, and when i try to put it on so,mthing lower, my screen goes out of sync | 03:59 |
| IronRoses | stuff this, I'm going back to debian | 04:00 |
| theD3viL | : | 04:00 |
| TechLord_Work | kamping_kaiser that generates a long list of installed modules that reference xine. i do see libxine1 which states Xine/ Video/media playerlibrary, binary files | 04:00 |
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| theD3viL | but i have 60hz only if i have 1280x1024 | 04:00 |
| IronRoses | this is complete and utter shit, bugs and mis prints every where, plusbroken packages | 04:00 |
| IronRoses | have fun guys | 04:00 |
| theD3viL | Kamping_Kaiser: i will try... | 04:00 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cool | 04:00 |
| IronRoses | bye | 04:00 |
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| theD3viL | brb .. i must go playing tuxracer a bit :D | 04:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 04:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | have funn | 04:01 |
| theD3viL | tnx ;) | 04:01 |
| theD3viL | brb | 04:01 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | techlord_work. yes it does | 04:01 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: | 04:01 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | juts a tic techlord | 04:01 |
| TechLord_Work | ok | 04:01 |
| oDysseas | hi all, I know I should rtfm but I'm in a hurry so could someone please tell me how to install k3b with dvd support? | 04:01 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: i can not sudo | 04:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | what are you after agian techlord... i forgot :| *embarased* to many questions | 04:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kyaneos. is this a custom install? | 04:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | type | 04:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | su root | 04:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not SUDO just "su" without the "do" | 04:03 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: custom?? | 04:03 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: server-expert | 04:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | so not a standard install in other words? | 04:03 |
| Kyaneos | i can do su root | 04:03 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok | 04:03 |
| Kyaneos | and i am root | 04:04 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: yes | 04:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | your root? | 04:04 |
| Kyaneos | i am kyaneos, normal user | 04:04 |
| uniq_ | oDysseas: sudo apt-get install k3b growisofs dvd+rw-tools | 04:04 |
| Kyaneos | when i do su root and type de pass i am root | 04:04 |
| oDysseas | ok uniq_ thx | 04:04 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. get into root | 04:05 |
| theD3viL | back ........ :) | 04:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | then type | 04:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | visudo | 04:05 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: i got | 04:05 |
| oDysseas | uniq_, says can't find k3b package =/ | 04:05 |
| edulix | hey is it normal that /proc/cpufreq tells me that maximun cpu freq is 70% ? | 04:05 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: ok | 04:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and add the line | 04:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | Kyaneos ALL=(ALL) ALL | 04:05 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | at the bototm | 04:05 |
| edulix | it does so when I unpplug the power wire of my laptop, and keeps saying so when plug it | 04:06 |
| uniq_ | oDysseas: add more repositories; http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories | 04:06 |
| oDysseas | ok uniq_ thx again | 04:06 |
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| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: i did it yet | 04:06 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | lol @ kernelpanik | 04:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | you added yourself kyaneos? | 04:06 |
| Kyaneos | i wrote it | 04:07 |
| TechLord_Work | edulix you don't have cpu throttling turned on in klaptop do you | 04:07 |
| Kyaneos | and now?? | 04:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | exit root | 04:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and type sudo bash | 04:07 |
| Kyaneos | ok | 04:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | enter your password, and you should be in a root environment | 04:08 |
| Kyaneos | i have not enter my pass | 04:08 |
| edulix | TechLord_Work: yes, it's set to 00% | 04:08 |
| Kyaneos | it prompt directly | 04:08 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kyaneos, go back into root (su root) | 04:09 |
| Kyaneos | ok | 04:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | then type "tail /etc/sudoers.list" | 04:09 |
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| Kyaneos | root@nabucodonosor:/home/kyaneos # tail /etc/sudoers.list | 04:09 |
| Kyaneos | tail: cannot open `/etc/sudoers.list' for reading: No such file or directory | 04:09 |
| Kyaneos | root@nabucodonosor:/home/kyaneos # | 04:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no .list | 04:09 |
| TechLord_Work | edulix what is your preformance profile set 2 | 04:09 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | i just checked sorry | 04:09 |
| Kyaneos | no | 04:09 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | root@rommel:~ # tail /etc/sudoers | 04:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | like that | 04:10 |
| Kyaneos | root ALL=(ALL) ALL | 04:10 |
| Kyaneos | kyaneos ALL=(ALL) ALL | 04:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | good. | 04:10 |
| Kyaneos | at the bottom of the file | 04:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thats what it should say | 04:10 |
| edulix | TechLord_Work: peromance is set to "performance" | 04:10 |
| edulix | TechLord_Work: I mean, policy is set to "performance" | 04:11 |
| Quinn_Storm | hey, does anyone know if there is a patch in the works for / a way to fix the fact that in the themed KDM, the menu-buttons pop up menus on the wrong Xinerama screen? (my setup has screen 0 on the right and screen 1 on the left, clicking on buttons on screen 0 causes menus on screen 1) | 04:11 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: and now?? | 04:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | now when it says | 04:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kyaneos@nabucodonosor:/home/kyaneos you can just put in | 04:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sudo bash | 04:11 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and enter YOUR password, and you are in the root acount | 04:11 |
| Kyaneos | ok | 04:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | or you can type | 04:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | su root | 04:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | and the ROOT password, to use the root acount athat way | 04:12 |
| Kyaneos | when sudo requests me a password, i type my user password?? | 04:12 |
| Kyaneos | ah | 04:12 |
| Kyaneos | ok | 04:12 |
| Kyaneos | ok | 04:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | techlord_work. you ok? | 04:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i seem to have forgoten you | 04:13 |
| TechLord_Work | i think i have reinstall libxine1 | 04:13 |
| Kyaneos | thank you very very very very much Kamping_Kaiser | 04:13 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. | 04:13 |
| Kyaneos | thank you very very very very much Kamping_Kaiser | 04:13 |
| TechLord_Work | searched the whole system and no xine executable found | 04:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no worries mate ;) have fun | 04:14 |
| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: and sorry for my english | 04:14 |
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| Kyaneos | Kamping_Kaiser: thx | 04:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thats ok kyaneos | 04:14 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i could understand you :) | 04:14 |
| TechLord_Work | only can't install it right now laptop has no internet i'm at work so only my desktop has internet access | 04:14 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | im using ubuntu breezy, so things will be slightly different, but if you install somthing like xine-ui that should pull in xine as a dependancy. | 04:15 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | possibly even from the cd | 04:15 |
| TechLord_Work | i'll try the cd i have that available | 04:16 |
| TechLord_Work | brb | 04:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | k | 04:16 |
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| candyban | Hi guys | 04:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hi | 04:16 |
| candyban | Is KDE compiled with gcc 4? | 04:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no | 04:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | afaik | 04:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | kde4 has been out for < 3 days | 04:16 |
| candyban | as I seemed to have read that gcc 4 would speed up kde ... | 04:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *gcc4 | 04:16 |
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| Quinn_Storm | yeah kde4 isn't out yet, it is waiting on qt4 | 04:17 |
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| theD3viL | Kamping_Kaiser: which fonts are u using in FF ? :) | 04:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure :) | 04:17 |
| theD3viL | look ? ;) | 04:17 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | just a tic ;) | 04:17 |
| theD3viL | am? | 04:18 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | serif, sans-serif monospace | 04:18 |
| theD3viL | k tnx =) | 04:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 04:19 |
| AMIGrAve | how can I install Kipi plugins ? I've got libkipi0 but got no plugins in the gwenview settings | 04:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no worries | 04:19 |
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| Quinn_Storm | AMIGrAve: what is that btw, sounds like something I might want to look at...(and thus be able to help you with) | 04:19 |
| confrey | hy everybody | 04:19 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | hey | 04:19 |
| confrey | I have installed kubuntu, and i have ugraded kdelibs-data; now I haven't the auto mount of removable devices, like was in gnome; how can I have it? | 04:20 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | confrey. did you upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu, or use kubuntu installer? | 04:21 |
| confrey | I have installed it from ubuntu cd; then I uncommented some lines in sources.list, and the made dist-upgrade | 04:22 |
| confrey | what's kubuntu installer? | 04:22 |
| theD3viL | Kamping_Kaiser: are u playing games... on linux ? ;) | 04:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ah. things have been know to break doing an update from ubuntu | 04:23 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | thed3vil. not yet, but hope to some time :) i have started playing with wine | 04:23 |
| theD3viL | wine... can u ?? | 04:23 |
| theD3viL | ;) | 04:23 |
| theD3viL | cedega is batter isnt it? | 04:23 |
| theD3viL | but... its not free i think :S | 04:24 |
| Anlar | I got a few games working perfectly with Wine.. | 04:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cedega is a directX emulator, so needed for things like HL2 | 04:24 |
| theD3viL | aha | 04:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | quake3 for example is fine under wine | 04:24 |
| theD3viL | what about steam .. can u play in linux? | 04:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | doom 3 is also WITH A LOT OF PAIN :) | 04:24 |
| theD3viL | :DDDDd | 04:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | steam :O a man after my own heart. need cedega | 04:24 |
| confrey | Kamping_Kaiser: do you have auto mount of cd and usb pen in kubuntu? | 04:24 |
| Anlar | wine has no emulating parts whatsoever. it provides that apis natively. | 04:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | i dont have it | 04:24 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | confrey. i use ubuntu | 04:25 |
| theD3viL | Kamping_Kaiser: please look pvt ;) | 04:25 |
| confrey | I have seen kde 3.4, and I prefer it insetad gnome; do you think is better to install ubuntu and then to add kde envirinment? | 04:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | no, go direct to kubuntu. | 04:27 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | the upgrade fucks things up | 04:27 |
| AceMan | is it ok to install kde programs after installing kubuntu? | 04:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yes | 04:28 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | should be | 04:28 |
| AceMan | thx, i thought as much but what do i know :) | 04:29 |
| candyban | I think the panels of gnome are better ... It's quite easy to add stuff to it (at least it feels more intuitive than kde) ... | 04:29 |
| AceMan | agreed. kubuntu's great but uubuntu's just more 'polished' i think | 04:29 |
| Quinn_Storm | candyban: the only thing I like better about gnome's panel is that you can move / access applet menus without the little "handles" | 04:29 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | aceman. thats because lots of the gnome devs are ubuntu devs :)\ | 04:30 |
| Anlar | gnome doesn't have "lots of devs". | 04:30 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ? | 04:31 |
| Anlar | there's surprisingly little amount of devs. that's why they can't keep up the pace anymore. | 04:31 |
| AceMan | ?? | 04:31 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ok. fair enough | 04:31 |
| candyban | Anlar: How many kde developers are there ? And how many gnome developers? | 04:31 |
| Anlar | candyban: it at least so since they haven't invented anything exactly new in the last couple years.. no idea about the actual numbers. | 04:32 |
| candyban | Anlar: I thought the reason why gnome "can't keep up the pace" is that a lot of big companies want the ABI to be stable as they have increasingly higher interests in gnome | 04:32 |
| Anlar | why would anyone be really interested in gnome? beats me. | 04:33 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ... | 04:33 |
| Choubaka | well | 04:33 |
| Choubaka | GTK2 is LGPL | 04:33 |
| Quinn_Storm | once kde hits 4.0 I think its going to blow gnome away...it already has far tighter self-integration/coherence than gnome and is only going to get better | 04:33 |
| Choubaka | whereas QT is GPL | 04:33 |
| Choubaka | so commercial/non-free apps can't be made with QT | 04:34 |
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| abelli | ciao a autti | 04:34 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: they can but you have to buy Qt under the other license from trolltech | 04:34 |
| abelli | is there any known problem with kubuntu and automounting? | 04:34 |
| abelli | amu: ciao :) | 04:34 |
| Choubaka | Quinn_Storm: yeah. | 04:34 |
| Choubaka | But why would they do that when there's GTK2? | 04:34 |
| candyban | Quinn_Storm: What's so revolutionary about QT4 ? | 04:34 |
| Quinn_Storm | candyban: Cairo | 04:35 |
| Choubaka | QT4 will finally have input modules \\o// | 04:35 |
| Anlar | choubaka: the commercial version (which you would use anyways in commercial products) is not such. | 04:35 |
| candyban | Quinn_Storm: I though Cairo was also to be integrated in gtk? | 04:35 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: yeah, and there's also the standard "but gtk2 is C, qt requires C++" | 04:35 |
| Choubaka | Which means I will be able to seriously consider usink KDE :p | 04:35 |
| Quinn_Storm | candyban: yeah, just you asked what was revolutionary :-P | 04:35 |
| Choubaka | Quinn_Storm: I was under the impression C++ is getting popular. | 04:35 |
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| Choubaka | usink? | 04:36 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: it is, but some business types are dinosaur-ish | 04:36 |
| Choubaka | wtf am I, russian | 04:36 |
| Choubaka | using* :) | 04:36 |
| candyban | Quinn_Storm: What's the timeline for QT4 ? (and kde 4) | 04:36 |
| Choubaka | Anyway, GTK and QT are both good. | 04:36 |
| Quinn_Storm | candyban: I'm not the person to ask, unfortunately //-.-\\ | 04:36 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: yeah, though don't even try using GTK1.x (yuck), but I have done some GTK2 dev, and it was smooth | 04:37 |
| Choubaka | Quinn_Storm: Yeah -_- | 04:37 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: I built a "dock" app for the xfce panel (was using it when I had a box w/ 32MB ram) | 04:37 |
| Choubaka | GTK1.2 doesn't even support UTF-8 :| | 04:37 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: and by "dock" I don't mean "ugly eye-candy" but "functional taskbar/app-launcher" | 04:37 |
| Choubaka | Yeah. :P | 04:37 |
| Choubaka | I'm still using XFCE4 | 04:38 |
| Anlar | qt4 will be released this summer. | 04:38 |
| Quinn_Storm | I like xfce4 well enough...oh, I also built a sound-event-thing, but I think the source to both is lost to history | 04:38 |
| candyban | Which desktop manager uses most resources? KDE (3.4) or Gnome (2.10)? | 04:38 |
| Quinn_Storm | candyban: that is a tough question...in my experience it was gnome but I think that depends on situation | 04:38 |
| Choubaka | That probably depends a lot on your configuration :P | 04:39 |
| Anlar | a full blown kde takes ~15M | 04:39 |
| Choubaka | Anlar: ok, wtf? | 04:39 |
| Quinn_Storm | candyban: gtk certainly uses less resources by itself than qt but gnome is...bloaty | 04:39 |
| Anlar | nah.. kde itself is pretty light and especially the qt4 will cut it even more down.. and Arthur will definitely rock. | 04:39 |
| Choubaka | Anlar: no way it consumes only that much. | 04:39 |
| Quinn_Storm | what's an Arthur? (I've missed something) | 04:40 |
| Anlar | add the applications.. of course I am not counting them since you could run whatever taking several gigabytes.. but the barebone desktop+kicker isn't a big one | 04:40 |
| Choubaka | well, duh. :p | 04:40 |
| abelli | please, is there anyproblem with cd automatic mounting with kubuntu? | 04:41 |
| Choubaka | Anyways, XFCE4 beats both of them! | 04:41 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | abelli. your the second person tonight to ask, but i didnt know of one | 04:42 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: xfce is quite nice but it doesn't have the tight integration that kde has (or the dcop & kio subsystems that allow for it) | 04:42 |
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| abelli | Choubaka: wmi.modprobe.de :) | 04:42 |
| abelli | Kamping_Kaiser: tonite ? where are you? :) | 04:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | australia. its 12 minutes past midnight here | 04:42 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | in central australia | 04:42 |
| abelli | Kamping_Kaiser: ou la la .. are you going to ubuntu down under? | 04:43 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | quite a few people are, but not more then other places afaik | 04:43 |
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| Choubaka | Quinn_Storm: Heh. | 04:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | most ppl im in contact with are using debian of some description | 04:44 |
| Choubaka | abelli: cool. | 04:44 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | abelli. where are you? | 04:44 |
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| Choubaka | I wish my computer wasn't such a piece of crap | 04:44 |
| abelli | Choubaka: welcome to the club :) | 04:44 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: how crappy is it? | 04:44 |
| abelli | Kamping_Kaiser: Italia | 04:44 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | :) | 04:45 |
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| Choubaka | Quinn_Storm: crashes often | 04:45 |
| Choubaka | dying hardware... | 04:45 |
| abelli | its 4:47 here ... | 04:45 |
| abelli | 4 pm .. obviously | 04:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | heh. yeh. | 04:45 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | funny | 04:45 |
| Choubaka | I'd toy with renderaccel, composite and cairo otherwise. | 04:45 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | sure its not 4 45? | 04:45 |
| abelli | no | 04:45 |
| Choubaka | but enabling those will kill my comp. | 04:46 |
| Quinn_Storm | abelli: sounds like you need to use an ntp server :-P | 04:46 |
| abelli | everythings relative even time .. maybe there's some time-hole between you and me. | 04:46 |
| abelli | porqua? | 04:46 |
| abelli | Quinn_Storm: why? | 04:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | ntp. keeps your clock on time | 04:46 |
| Quinn_Storm | abelli: just being silly b/c you were two minutes off from those of us who use ntp | 04:46 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yours is wrong ;) | 04:46 |
| Choubaka | Quinn_Storm: I hace 1.2 Duron, 512MB ram, and nvidia gf 4 mx | 04:46 |
| abelli | Quinn_Storm: ntpdate is always wrong .. | 04:46 |
| candyban | Choubaka: that's not too bad | 04:47 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | abelli. depends which servers your with | 04:47 |
| abelli | Quinn_Storm: please http://www.marzocca.net/linux/ubm.html and deactive that service :) | 04:47 |
| Choubaka | candyban: well, no | 04:47 |
| Choubaka | but it's utter crap | 04:47 |
| Choubaka | and it's dying | 04:47 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: at least your graphics card is better than mine...with those specs you shouldn't be crashy...get the nvidia modules and stuff, make sure you have latest nvidia drivers | 04:47 |
| Choubaka | unreliable, noisy and ... | 04:47 |
| candyban | Choubaka: Using P4 2.4 / 512 MB /GF 4200 here | 04:47 |
| Choubaka | Quinn_Storm: I have the latest drivers. | 04:48 |
| candyban | Choubaka: I have it for 1.5 years now | 04:48 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: the binary drivers? | 04:48 |
| abelli | huh .. i need a little help, could you please list all the audio servers you know? | 04:48 |
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| Choubaka | yeah | 04:48 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol. im in candybans leage | 04:48 |
| Choubaka | and for server, a 500MHz P3 with 128MB ram and some S3 graphix | 04:48 |
| Choubaka | :D | 04:48 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: strange, b/c that box should be plenty stable...are you sure its cooled well enough? (set up lm-sensors & check) | 04:48 |
| candyban | Choubaka: P2 400 (firewall) | 04:48 |
| Choubaka | That comp is _way_ more reliable than this one | 04:48 |
| candyban | Correction ... I have mine 2.5 years now | 04:49 |
| TechLord_Work | ok i'm at a total loss i removed xine , rebooted and reinstalled xine still not found | 04:49 |
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| Choubaka | Quinn_Storm: But it ain't | 04:49 |
| Choubaka | I think some part of the hardware is borken. | 04:49 |
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| abelli | Choubaka: hw .. yummie .. what's your problem? | 04:50 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: well, check cooling...do a memtest86...any idea -what- causes the crashes? (disk i/o, graphics stuff, etc.?) | 04:50 |
| Choubaka | Quinn_Storm: graphics | 04:51 |
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| Choubaka | imagemagick programs often segfault :) | 04:52 |
| Choubaka | but no others. | 04:52 |
| Choubaka | gimp too | 04:52 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: well then it could be buggy drivers or perhaps an insufficiently cooled nforce...though I'd guess drivers...try swapping vid-cards to see if it crashes w/ a different video board (like the one out of your server) | 04:52 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: err, nvidia not nforce -.- | 04:52 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | choubaka put a pedestal fan pointing at the card, if it stops crashing its heat | 04:53 |
| Choubaka | Quinn_Storm: I don't have another video card ;P | 04:53 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: well then...I guess you're out of luck...you can't swap the server card in? (or is that on-board?) | 04:53 |
| Choubaka | on-board | 04:54 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: that sucks | 04:54 |
| Choubaka | so, hmm | 04:54 |
| Choubaka | how do I use these sensors? | 04:54 |
| sorin | how do i tell grub to load the menu instead of the command line? | 04:54 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: well, what you need to do is swap the card if you can get ahold of one to see if it really is the video card, or something more bizarre | 04:54 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: oh, unfortunately there probably isn't a temp sensor on your video card...but look around for an lm-sensors howto | 04:54 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: the lm-sensors modules are built-in to the 2.6 series kernels so you shouldn't have any trouble setting them up | 04:55 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sorin? pardon? | 04:55 |
| Choubaka | I set them up already. | 04:55 |
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| Choubaka | what program do I run to see temps? :p | 04:55 |
| sorin | Kamping_Kaiser: ? | 04:55 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: ksensors | 04:56 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sorin. i dont understand your problem | 04:56 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: or just sensors form a console | 04:56 |
| Choubaka | oh. :/ | 04:56 |
| Choubaka | they're not showing temps :< | 04:56 |
| sorin | grub displays the grub prompt instead of the menu | 04:56 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: yeah you didn't get them all set up yet | 04:56 |
| TechLord_Work | xine binaries are not being installed anyone ever see that before? | 04:56 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: it took me a little work on my via KT7A-Raid board | 04:57 |
| Choubaka | I did modprobe all what sensors-detect told me | 04:57 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: there's a bug w/ my board about the order / which modules you have to install...what's your board? | 04:57 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | techlord_work. not on my ubuntu | 04:57 |
| Choubaka | it has a VIA KT133 chipset afaik | 04:57 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: yep same chipset, hang on while I fetch my info | 04:57 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | sorin, do you have a /boot/grub/menu.lst file? | 04:57 |
| sorin | yes. i can load it with the configfile command | 04:58 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: rmmod all that stuff / reboot & then just modprobe i2c-isa and via686a (but not the via pci thingy) | 04:58 |
| sorin | how do i make it load it by default | 04:58 |
| TechLord_Work | is there a xine-lib package for ubuntu kubuntu | 04:59 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | not sure sorin sory | 04:59 |
| Quinn_Storm | TechLord_Work: yeah, just not sure where it comes from, check in universe/multiverse | 05:00 |
| incubii | sweet im installing windows 2000 server sp4 on a qemu virtual machine running on PPC arch | 05:00 |
| incubii | :D | 05:00 |
| Quinn_Storm | incubii: yeah and you'll be done sometime tomorrow :-P | 05:00 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 05:00 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | cool | 05:00 |
| Choubaka | ok | 05:00 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | techlord. i have it, just not sure about where it either | 05:00 |
| incubii | :P | 05:00 |
| incubii | whether i am or not its still cool | 05:00 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: if it still doesn't work, google around for via and lm-sensors...I forget where I found the info...and you may need reboots, not sure, I set it up a while ago and did a "set it and forget it" | 05:01 |
| Choubaka | it worked. | 05:01 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: cool | 05:01 |
| Choubaka | I wonder if it's properly calibrated though | 05:01 |
| Choubaka | SYS Temp: +47.2C | 05:01 |
| Choubaka | CPU Temp: +36.6C | 05:01 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: it got the sys & cpu backwards it looks like | 05:02 |
| Choubaka | but there's this weirdness: | 05:02 |
| Choubaka | SBr Temp: +25.2C (high = -0C, hyst = -55C) ALARM | 05:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | techlord_work. do you have extened sources, or just teh cd? | 05:02 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: that's the southbridge temp | 05:02 |
| TechLord_Work | thanks i'll have to work on this later then | 05:02 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: I -think- | 05:02 |
| TechLord_Work | just the cd | 05:02 |
| Choubaka | yeah | 05:02 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :( not a lot then | 05:02 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: mine has the same 3 sensors but didn't get cpu/sys backwards | 05:02 |
| Choubaka | also +2.5V: +0.24 V (min = +2.36 V, max = +2.61 V) ALARM | 05:02 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: that's a mistake in the config, mine's like that too | 05:02 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: the via686a is apparently a goofy chip | 05:03 |
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| Choubaka | so doesn't look like it's overheating. | 05:03 |
| Choubaka | the cpu at leasy. | 05:03 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: yeah, at least the system isn't, the video might be, but I doubt it, its probably bad drivers / slightly incompatible / something like that...like I said, try swapping video boards, or perhaps going to nvidia's website & getting drivers from there instead of the ones w/ your distro | 05:04 |
| Choubaka | Quinn_Storm: they're the same drivers. | 05:04 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: same version? are you certain? | 05:04 |
| Choubaka | yes | 05:04 |
| Choubaka | I'm using the open source nv drivers now though | 05:04 |
| Choubaka | they're more stable | 05:04 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: ok, well stick with those for now then, maybe nv will get it fixed | 05:04 |
| Choubaka | but no 3d :( | 05:05 |
| Choubaka | yeah | 05:05 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: but it sounds like its not your hardware at fault | 05:05 |
| Choubaka | hmm | 05:06 |
| Choubaka | hopefully | 05:06 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: yeah, at the worst its the graphics card | 05:06 |
| Choubaka | I can probably get another for ~20 euros :D | 05:06 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :( | 05:07 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: yeah, once I get some cash I think I'll pick up an nvidia card for this box (I want my renderaccel / etc. damnit!) but I need it to be a dualhead one, I've gotten quite used to that with my matrox card...and of course I need that ram for that server | 05:07 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | all new ati and nvidia cards are dual head | 05:08 |
| Choubaka | Don't get ATI for a linux box though | 05:08 |
| Quinn_Storm | Kamping_Kaiser: ok, is the nvidia dual-head well supported? (with like merged-fb style support so I can have dri on both heads)? | 05:08 |
| Quinn_Storm | Choubaka: yeah I already know that from reading a bit about it | 05:08 |
| _buz | how about the ati chipsets? | 05:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | quinn_storm sorry dont know | 05:09 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | dont use it | 05:09 |
| _buz | i mean with nvidia vga cards | 05:09 |
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| _buz | stupid nforce4 all got fans on the northbrige | 05:09 |
| _buz | i don't buy such crap | 05:09 |
| Choubaka | I don't know about ati chipsets | 05:10 |
| Choubaka | I guess they're fine. | 05:10 |
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| _buz | preferably with one fan. or even fanless | 05:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | mmm. | 05:10 |
| Quinn_Storm | _buz: even my ancient via kt133 chipset KT7A-Raid has a fan on the northbridge...or is that the southbridge?...ah whatever, it has a tiny fan...silly old chipset | 05:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | there is one. its about 800AUS$ | 05:10 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | north bridge | 05:11 |
| _buz | well theres a gigabyte one | 05:12 |
| _buz | but the nforce gets so hot you cant touch it | 05:12 |
| _buz | and tehre's that freaking zalman case | 05:12 |
| _buz | no i want to do it with "affordable" components ;) | 05:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | yeh. i think thats the one | 05:12 |
| _buz | not a challenge otherwise | 05:12 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | lol | 05:12 |
| _buz | http://www.scythe.co.jp/en/cooler/ncu2005.htm | 05:13 |
| _buz | agreed, not entirely standard | 05:14 |
| _buz | but it works | 05:14 |
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| incubii | hmm still waiting for drivers.cab to copy | 05:16 |
| incubii | :)) | 05:16 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | heh | 05:16 |
| Quinn_Storm | I would never want to use a board that needed such a heatsink! ouch! | 05:17 |
| Quinn_Storm | is that for the processor at least? if thats for the northbridge I'm staying far far away from that chipset | 05:18 |
| Quinn_Storm | ok, ok, nevermind, I read further | 05:18 |
| Quinn_Storm | now its just a silly cpu accessory | 05:18 |
| Quinn_Storm | if I wanted fanless cooling for my cpu I'd go w/ water-cooling | 05:18 |
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| Anlar | there's nothing wrong with fans. just don't buy crappy noisy ones. | 05:21 |
| incubii | global fop win 38! | 05:21 |
| incubii | no there was a noise maker you could be proud of | 05:21 |
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| Anlar | now kids this is the way to go http://www.skenegroup.net/fi/artikkelit/thermalright_xp120.3 :) | 05:22 |
| Anlar | it's Silent. | 05:22 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | that thermaltake god dissed in a review i saw | 05:24 |
| Anlar | it was bs. | 05:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *got | 05:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | it got about 2/10 | 05:25 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | or similar | 05:25 |
| Anlar | there's nothing to diss about it. it's very efficient, extremely silent, reliable and easy to attach/detach. | 05:26 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | *shrug* thats what i saw. | 05:26 |
| Quinn_Storm | its also ginormous | 05:27 |
| Anlar | perhaps the reviewer was just a retard. | 05:27 |
| Anlar | it's not heavy actually btw. it's very light. | 05:27 |
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| Quinn_Storm | Anlar: I would imagine that, heavy would be bad b/c it would be extra metal the heat would have to propagate through, numerous light thin vanes make a better radiator than a few thick ones | 05:28 |
| Anlar | that's what the heat pipes are for. | 05:28 |
| Quinn_Storm | Anlar: yeah, the heat pipes act like an enclosed 'water'-cooling system that then is radiated by those enormous vanes | 05:29 |
| Quinn_Storm | they are 'pumped' by the heat itself | 05:29 |
| Anlar | 2.8G P4 with 100% usage for hours and that heatsink feels unpleasantly cold when you touch it, even close to the cpu. it doesn't even get warm. | 05:31 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | 0_o not bad | 05:31 |
| Anlar | cpu heat sensor shows things like 35C :) | 05:31 |
| Anlar | and it might be quite near to the reality too.. | 05:32 |
| Kamping_Kaiser | :) nice | 05:32 |
| KaiL | Anlar: so the cooler is very loud? | 05:32 |
| Anlar | extremely silent. you can't hear it at all practically. | 05:32 |
| Anlar | <20dB | 05:32 |
| KaiL | hmm | 05:32 |
| KaiL | very very big heatsink? | 05:33 |
| Anlar | kail: look at the link, http://www.skenegroup.net/fi/artikkelit/thermalright_xp120.3 | 05:33 |
| KaiL | uhm, ok | 05:34 |
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| KaiL | even as THAT one on a Athlon 64 3000+ would even passive let the CPU <30 | 05:35 |
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| Kamping_Kaiser | night all | 05:38 |
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| KaiL | hmm, the tested CPU isn't a WInchester | 05:39 |
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| IronRoses | back again | 05:39 |
| IronRoses | it's all working fine now, reinstalledm just did base install and then install kde, it downloaded the updated packages then instaled fine | 05:40 |
| IronRoses | Iv'ew had noproblems yet | 05:40 |
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| bubi | how can i start kde without restoring previous session | 06:05 |
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| sikor_sxe | is there a firefox 1.0.3 ubuntu package yet? or do miss a repository? | 06:12 |
| buz_ | there isnt | 06:13 |
| KaiL | not yet :( | 06:13 |
| sikor_sxe | :O | 06:14 |
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| blueyed | sikor_sxe, most (all?) security relevant fixes are in ubuntu's 1.02 firefox. heard that from the devels. | 06:14 |
| sikor_sxe | no | 06:15 |
| sikor_sxe | the most evil one (executing files) is there | 06:15 |
| KaiL | in 1.0.2-0ubuntu5? | 06:15 |
| sikor_sxe | i did a test | 06:15 |
| sikor_sxe | http://www.mikx.de/firelinking/ | 06:16 |
| KaiL | yes, works :( | 06:18 |
| KaiL | hmm, debian has1.0.3 for i386 and ppc | 06:21 |
| KaiL | hmm, is there no debian/amd64? | 06:21 |
| buz_ | there is | 06:21 |
| buz_ | but generally it lags behind | 06:21 |
| sikor_sxe | yeah | 06:22 |
| KaiL | that does everything on debian | 06:22 |
| sikor_sxe | installing the debian one, right now | 06:22 |
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| sikor_sxe | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/mozilla-firefox | 06:23 |
| gahan | why can't i bind windowskey alone to show up kmenu? | 06:23 |
| sikor_sxe | it has ia64 | 06:23 |
| gahan | every bidn needs at least 2 buttons, why? | 06:23 |
| gahan | s/bidn/bind/ | 06:23 |
| smouche | hello -- off topic, but could anyone recommend a good non-wysiwyg word-processor (not text editor) I could run in konsole, or a terminal session? | 06:26 |
| gdh | TeX ? :) | 06:26 |
| smouche | gdh -- I was afraid you'd say that -- ;-) | 06:27 |
| sikor_sxe | damn, the debian firefox packages won't work :/ | 06:27 |
| gdh | smouche: It's a healthy fear to have =) | 06:27 |
| smouche | guess I should learn TeX -- but it's overkill for me - I don't need a whole desktop publishing thing, just somethng | 06:27 |
| smouche | very basic, but with some formatting capacity | 06:28 |
| smouche | I'll keep googling, thanks! | 06:28 |
| gdh | From the reports from friends I hear about it, TeX can be as light or as heavy as you want.. | 06:28 |
| gdh | just has anunfortunate learning curve at the start | 06:28 |
| smouche | lol | 06:28 |
| smouche | that was gonna be my next comment, gdh | 06:29 |
| gdh | I'm glad I have no need to prepare documents :) | 06:29 |
| gdh | 'stuff.txt' is the extent I need. | 06:29 |
| smouche | basically, I'd like something that is to basic word processing what, say elinks is to web browsing | 06:29 |
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| gdh | run wordperfect for DOS? :) | 06:32 |
| smouche | gdh -- that would work -- I may even have some old floppies around for that... exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for | 06:32 |
| gdh | hah cool :) | 06:33 |
| smouche | hmmm, good lead, thanks! | 06:33 |
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| xavier_ | lo all | 06:33 |
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| mikl | hello vietnam | 06:45 |
| spiral | fa | 06:49 |
| spiral | sorry | 06:49 |
| smouche | so? | 06:51 |
| smouche | er, me? | 06:51 |
| smouche | doh! | 06:51 |
| buz_ | is there something like prime95 or cpuburn for linux? | 06:56 |
| xavier_ | buz_, yes, cpuburn | 06:58 |
| buz_ | i must be blind | 06:58 |
| xavier_ | I think it's in ubuntu (at least it's in debian) | 06:58 |
| buz_ | ahh i mistyped the name | 06:58 |
| buz_ | and now i need something to get the temps in my machine? | 07:00 |
| xavier_ | it depends | 07:02 |
| xavier_ | try acpi | 07:02 |
| xavier_ | modprobe thermal | 07:02 |
| xavier_ | or you'll have to use lm_sensors | 07:02 |
| xavier_ | but it'll need to compile modules and other funny stuff :p | 07:03 |
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| xavier_ | buz_, is it a laptop or a desktop ? | 07:04 |
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| buz_ | shuttle xpc -> desktop | 07:07 |
| Anlar | lapdance, please | 07:07 |
| Anlar | err you said laptop, not lapdance.. nevermind | 07:07 |
| buz_ | i'll try ksensors | 07:07 |
| xavier_ | buz_, you'll need lm_sensors for it, but I don't know if ubuntu ships it compiled | 07:09 |
| xavier_ | ask synaptic :p | 07:09 |
| buz_ | it does | 07:09 |
| buz_ | its in the reps | 07:09 |
| xavier_ | good | 07:10 |
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| buz_ | yeah it works | 07:16 |
| buz_ | i had to run sensors-detect and load a few modules (didnt want to reboot) but now it works | 07:17 |
| buz_ | niiice | 07:17 |
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| bubi | Choubaka: i need u :P | 07:18 |
| Choubaka | ok? | 07:19 |
| bubi | hi | 07:19 |
| bubi | u still have online that repo | 07:19 |
| bubi | ? | 07:19 |
| Choubaka | Yes. | 07:19 |
| bubi | ive had to reinstall | 07:19 |
| bubi | so i need link again :) | 07:19 |
| Choubaka | oh | 07:21 |
| Choubaka | deb http://choubaka.no-ip.com/~jarkko/ ./ | 07:21 |
| bubi | cool thanks | 07:21 |
| bubi | i couldnt get rid of that kdetv | 07:22 |
| bubi | no matter what i did it started with next session again | 07:22 |
| bubi | so finally i reinstalled :( | 07:22 |
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| _P_ | hi all | 07:34 |
| _P_ | some had some problem with a asus q-fan system of a barebone and ubuntu kubuntu? | 07:34 |
| _P_ | *someone | 07:34 |
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| KaiL | what Kind of Problems? | 07:37 |
| KaiL | normally q-fan is OS independant.. | 07:38 |
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| _P_ | kail yes | 07:38 |
| _P_ | but with debian it works | 07:38 |
| _P_ | with kubuntu not :( | 07:38 |
| KaiL | what means "doesn't work"? | 07:38 |
| buz_ | did you check your cpu load? | 07:38 |
| _P_ | the terminator stay quite loud for 15 minutes | 07:39 |
| _P_ | and after start to the max speed for 10 minutes | 07:39 |
| _P_ | yes buz | 07:39 |
| KaiL | hmm | 07:39 |
| _P_ | q-fan normally change | 07:39 |
| buz_ | http://www.sasserlone.de/222-musikkuenstler-der-extraklasse.html | 07:39 |
| buz_ | very impressive | 07:39 |
| _P_ | speed every minute | 07:39 |
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| KaiL | install lm-sensors and the run 'sensors-detect' to configure the hardware sensors | 07:40 |
| KaiL | then we can see, if the temperatures stay to high... | 07:40 |
| JaZy84 | can someone help me with an apt-get upgrade problem | 07:40 |
| JaZy84 | i'm getting this error | 07:40 |
| JaZy84 | Preparing to replace kdelibs-data 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (using .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb) ... | 07:40 |
| JaZy84 | Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ... | 07:40 |
| JaZy84 | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--unpack): | 07:40 |
| JaZy84 | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf | 07:40 |
| JaZy84 | Errors were encountered while processing: | 07:40 |
| JaZy84 | /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb | 07:40 |
| JaZy84 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 07:40 |
| KaiL | dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb | 07:41 |
| KaiL | ...known bug ;) | 07:41 |
| JaZy84 | awesome | 07:41 |
| JaZy84 | thanks | 07:41 |
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| KaiL | something I don't really understand, as the names file is a folder, which normally gets silently overwritten | 07:42 |
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| JaZy84 | odd | 07:42 |
| JaZy84 | kde runs vnc slower then compared to gnome is there a reason for that? | 07:43 |
| KaiL | not really | 07:43 |
| JaZy84 | hrm. | 07:43 |
| KaiL | maybe because of the system how vnc compresses the data - kde has more refreshes | 07:44 |
| buz_ | i'd use nomachine.com stuff over vnc anyday | 07:44 |
| JaZy84 | ah. nice. | 07:44 |
| buz_ | muuuuuch faster | 07:44 |
| JaZy84 | nomachine.com | 07:44 |
| buz_ | and theres gpl implementation now | 07:44 |
| JaZy84 | i'll check that out. | 07:44 |
| JaZy84 | free? | 07:44 |
| buz_ | theirs is commercial | 07:44 |
| buz_ | but knoppix guis have a gpl edition of it | 07:44 |
| buz_ | somewhere | 07:44 |
| buz_ | so there ought to be debs somewhere | 07:44 |
| JaZy84 | nice thanks Bubi | 07:46 |
| JaZy84 | buz_ | 07:46 |
| buz_ | what | 07:47 |
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| JaZy84 | thanks.. | 07:50 |
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| Bubi | does kynaptic use the same repos as apt-get ??? | 07:53 |
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| KaiL | Bubi: yes | 07:54 |
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| Bubi | from same file ?? | 07:54 |
| KaiL | kynaptic is just a frontend for apt | 07:54 |
| Bubi | ahh cool | 07:54 |
| Bubi | tnx | 07:54 |
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| xavier_ | ++ all | 08:03 |
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| Bubi | how can i change default font size in firefox now is 9 pixels and its to small | 08:09 |
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| Bubi | i cant find it in prefferences | 08:09 |
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| KaiL | edit _> prefserences | 08:12 |
| KaiL | general -> "fonts & colors" | 08:12 |
| KaiL | :) | 08:12 |
| Bubi | KaiL: it doesnt work | 08:13 |
| KaiL | it's the font for the display | 08:13 |
| KaiL | or do you mean the GUI-fontsize? | 08:13 |
| Bubi | yeh | 08:14 |
| KaiL | for that I recommend to install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt | 08:14 |
| KaiL | then you have an entry ""GTK styles and fonts" in the KDE Controlcenter | 08:15 |
| KaiL | ...from there you can set your gtk apps to look as the kde ones :) | 08:16 |
| Bubi | ahh ok | 08:16 |
| Bubi | KaiL: is that one single package ?? | 08:20 |
| KaiL | yes | 08:20 |
| Bubi | i cant find it in kynaptic | 08:20 |
| Bubi | lots of GTK-engines | 08:21 |
| Bubi | and Qt3 | 08:21 |
| Bubi | but not that one u said | 08:21 |
| KaiL | so you don't have "universe" enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:21 |
| Bubi | ahh | 08:21 |
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| Bubi | hmm still not there | 08:24 |
| Bubi | shows me only 2 packages new | 08:25 |
| KaiL | apt-get update... | 08:26 |
| Bubi | i did it in kynaptic | 08:26 |
| Bubi | should i do it in console | 08:27 |
| KaiL | duno, or look again into sources.list, if you missed something ;) | 08:27 |
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| Bubi | ehh stupid me | 08:29 |
| Bubi | i uncommented only security | 08:30 |
| gdh | :) | 08:33 |
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| PenguinBoy | hey guys | 08:35 |
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| KaiL | ah, cool - sudo works now on my updated debian ;) | 08:36 |
| PenguinBoy | great! | 08:36 |
| PenguinBoy | is there a problem with sudo in kubuntu? | 08:36 |
| KaiL | nop | 08:36 |
| buz_ | well yes | 08:36 |
| buz_ | it's being used | 08:36 |
| KaiL | I've updated my system from debian to kubuntu | 08:37 |
| PenguinBoy | I have Ubuntu on my desktop and am getting ready to install kubuntu on my laptop | 08:37 |
| KaiL | sudo didn't just work, now it does ;) | 08:37 |
| buz_ | thats weird | 08:37 |
| PenguinBoy | why | 08:37 |
| buz_ | mhh i thought it was deeply igrained in kubuntu's ways of doing things | 08:38 |
| KaiL | the last difference is, that hotplug and acpid are more silent (and faster) on kubuntu than here | 08:38 |
| buz_ | first thing i did was activating the root account ;) | 08:38 |
| KaiL | yesterday installed kubutu two times - two times acpi S3 works | 08:38 |
| KaiL | only here it doesn't :( | 08:39 |
| KaiL | bad luck or something different between debian and ubuntu in that way? | 08:39 |
| buz_ | mhh i found i couldn't downgrade from breezy to hoary either | 08:40 |
| buz_ | maybe fresh installs are easier, after all | 08:40 |
| KaiL | well, you can downgrade in some very very complicate way ;) | 08:40 |
| KaiL | but you don't want to do that - and why? anything broken in breezy, i didn't find? | 08:41 |
| PenguinBoy | is there known problems about getting wireless to wotk in Kubuntu? | 08:41 |
| gdh | aye, mad sed/awk magic to dpkg -l ... download all older packages, then dpkg --force-all -i wit xargs :) | 08:41 |
| KaiL | gdh: nop | 08:41 |
| KaiL | apt-get install package/hoary is enough | 08:41 |
| gdh | Really? interesting. :) | 08:42 |
| KaiL | only a "bit" difficult to find out, which ones got updated | 08:42 |
| gdh | I think I just like brute force methods | 08:42 |
| KaiL | that's the way I used to hunt out all sarge here | 08:42 |
| KaiL | PenguinBoy: a rather old ndiswrapper, if you mean that :) | 08:43 |
| KaiL | too old for my Linksys card | 08:43 |
| PenguinBoy | I have an IBM Thinkpad R40....with a wireless.... | 08:44 |
| PenguinBoy | I have not had success with Linux and wireless in the past | 08:44 |
| gdh | wireless support is usuall terribly clumsy for dists to support due to firmware issues :( | 08:45 |
| PenguinBoy | do you think I would stand a better chance with Ubuntu or Kubuntu recognizing and workign with my wireless????? | 08:46 |
| gdh | If one works, so will the other | 08:46 |
| PenguinBoy | great | 08:46 |
| gdh | Kubuntu *IS* Ubuntu, just with KDE packages on the install CD instead of GNOME ones. | 08:47 |
| PenguinBoy | thnaks | 08:47 |
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| gdh | If you want to send me your notebook I can get it working for you :) | 08:47 |
| PenguinBoy | lol | 08:47 |
| PenguinBoy | lol | 08:47 |
| PenguinBoy | lol | 08:47 |
| gdh | ;) | 08:48 |
| PenguinBoy | okay I am rebooting to begin the install | 08:48 |
| gdh | Cool - you can ignore the question about the giant lemur if you get asked. | 08:49 |
| PenguinBoy | lol | 08:49 |
| PenguinBoy | i like the Kubuntu logo | 08:49 |
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| fejaor | I can't adjust the resolution of my screen....kubuntu is not allowing me to do so, and the only option I have is 640x480 and is kind of annoying that the windows are so big | 09:01 |
| fejaor | anyone who can help me with this? | 09:02 |
| Bubi | and i have another problem with my LS120 floppy drive | 09:02 |
| Bubi | it sems i cant get to work | 09:03 |
| Anlar | fejaor: most likely your monitor-section at your xorg.conf needs the modelines | 09:03 |
| fejaor | how do I do that? | 09:03 |
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| PenguinBoy | Trouble on install......just installed from CD and is rebooting.....got this message.....GRUB Loading stage 1.5......GRUB loading, please wait.....Error 18 | 09:04 |
| PenguinBoy | help please | 09:05 |
| fejaor | cause everytime I tried to open a window is just to big and can't see or reach the Accept, Cancel buttons | 09:05 |
| gdh | PenguinBoy: did you try to install on a partition more than 8GB from the start of the hard disk? | 09:06 |
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| PenguinBoy | I have a 235 GB HDD.....Windows XP in 25 GB and an emplty 10 GB for Linux | 09:07 |
| PenguinBoy | 35 | 09:07 |
| gdh | hmm.. http://www.mepis.org/node/3257 | 09:08 |
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| fejaor | Anlar?? | 09:08 |
| fejaor | I can't adjust the resolution of my screen....kubuntu is not allowing me to do so, and the only option I have is 640x480 and is kind of annoying that the windows are so big | 09:09 |
| gdh | PenguinBoy: in fact just google for 'grub error 18' | 09:09 |
| fejaor | anyone who can help me with this? | 09:09 |
| fejaor | I can't adjust the resolution of my screen....kubuntu is not allowing me to do so, and the only option I have is 640x480 and is kind of annoying that the windows are so big | 09:09 |
| Anlar | you were already told how to fix it so stop repeating yourself. | 09:10 |
| gdh | fejaor: try just putting the resolution you want into the relevant part of /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 09:12 |
| zabu | kubuntu won' listen to me when I say I don't want a warning every time I send data unencrypted | 09:12 |
| zabu | well konqueror | 09:12 |
| gdh | in the 'Screen" Section in the 'Depth 24' Display subsection | 09:12 |
| Anlar | gdh: unfortunately his resolution is just fine. he just spammed me with his whole xorg.conf | 09:15 |
| Anlar | he is missing the vertrefresh/scan settings from monitor subsection | 09:15 |
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| gdh | Anlar: Must be a really shitty old monitor for DDC probe to have failed :) | 09:16 |
| Anlar | gdh: it fails for many really High end new ones as well. | 09:17 |
| fejaor | Where can I find a kubuntu starter guide?? | 09:17 |
| gdh | Heh, I generally use 'average' hardware so have never noticed a problem :) | 09:17 |
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| Anlar | you've just been lucky. | 09:17 |
| gdh | fejaor: What type of graphics card do you have? | 09:17 |
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| Anlar | I also gave him couple quite generic readings so if he can't get it working, ... pfft | 09:18 |
| fejaor | I have a GLAD845 Intel motherboard | 09:18 |
| gdh | I know there are problems with the 'savage' driver and DDC | 09:18 |
| blueyed | fejaor, www.ubuntuguide.org | 09:18 |
| gdh | but yeh sounds like getting messy with modelines as you originalyl suggested :) | 09:18 |
| Bubi | can anyone help me with my LS-120 drive | 09:19 |
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| Anlar | bubi: I think there is a howto somewhere. | 09:20 |
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| Bubi | well it worked fine under FC3 | 09:20 |
| regeya | I think she'd get along just fine with kubuntu, but I'm feeling a bit apprehensive about that...hm. | 09:20 |
| sproingie | converting someone _to_ xp? whats she using, win95? | 09:20 |
| fejaor | but that's ubunt and I have tried that guide in kubuntu but is not working | 09:20 |
| regeya | 98SE | 09:21 |
| regeya | sproingie, it's not the newest pc | 09:21 |
| Bubi | here in kubuntu ls-120 isnt recognised | 09:21 |
| sproingie | i guess xp could sort of be called an improvement | 09:21 |
| sproingie | may as well make the jump tho | 09:21 |
| regeya | neither of us use latest-greatest...she's a music teacher, I work at a newspaper, you can probably imagine the economic realities of this marriage | 09:21 |
| Anlar | bubi: it's an ordinary floppy drive to the kernel. so just insert the kernel module and it is at /dev/fd0 | 09:21 |
| Bubi | Anlar: to u is as simple as that :) | 09:22 |
| Bubi | to me its another story | 09:22 |
| sproingie | regeya: i can imagine. well, if its for web and email, anything with ff will do nicely | 09:22 |
| sproingie | er firefox that is. should learn to not abbrev. :) | 09:23 |
| regeya | true | 09:23 |
| Anlar | bubi: well, | 09:23 |
| regeya | she's a firefox user now; shouldn't be a big leap | 09:24 |
| sproingie | yah. tho ff is mighty pokey on older machines running linux | 09:24 |
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| Anlar | bubi: put into your /etc/fstab the following line: /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat defaults,user 0 0 | 09:24 |
| Anlar | bubi: and mkdir /mnt/floppy ,naturally. | 09:24 |
| Bubi | ok | 09:24 |
| Anlar | bubi: then your konqueror -> Go -> Storage media should have the drive. perhaps. | 09:25 |
| Anlar | I don't know for sure, haven't had a floppy drive for the last 6 years. | 09:25 |
| regeya | heh Anlar; I finally talked people out of using floppy disks for important data at the office. I show no sympathy when someone takes a photo, slaps it on a floppy disk, sticks it on their car dash or something, then panic because the disk is corrupt | 09:29 |
| regeya | though they want to sell banner ads now and send reps out with proofs on floppy; lame | 09:29 |
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| sproingie | go hand out usb thumb drives | 09:30 |
| sproingie | 'course that'd involve the office paying for 'em | 09:30 |
| Bubi | Anlar: thanks that worked | 09:33 |
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| Anlar | bubu: lol | 09:36 |
| Bubi | :D now i have fully workable Kubuntu | 09:37 |
| Bubi | it took me 3 days and 5 or 6 reinstalls but its ok now | 09:38 |
| === Bubi is happy kubuntu user >>>>>>>>>> go tel the world :D | ||
| KaiL | now you know exactly how the install works? ;) | 09:40 |
| Bubi | hehe | 09:40 |
| Bubi | well i knewed before from other distros | 09:40 |
| Bubi | only gentoo i didnt managed to install | 09:40 |
| Bubi | somehow it didnt recognised my SATA disks | 09:40 |
| KaiL | "only" 2 successfull + 3 with broken IDE (so fail very early) yesterday.... | 09:40 |
| KaiL | (on 2 PCs that is) | 09:41 |
| Anlar | bubi: most likely it did but you didn't just know what to do. | 09:41 |
| Bubi | hehe it hung up at boot after compile | 09:41 |
| Bubi | so i tried two more times | 09:42 |
| Anlar | yes, you failed. | 09:42 |
| Bubi | i know | 09:42 |
| Bubi | i just didnt know where | 09:42 |
| Bubi | then i installed FC3 | 09:42 |
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| Anlar | Fc3 is actually a quite good one. Shame that it uses gnome | 09:43 |
| Bubi | yeh | 09:43 |
| Bubi | that is the reason i went on kubuntu now | 09:43 |
| Bubi | but after 6 months im still beginner at linux | 09:44 |
| hal9k1x | hi | 09:44 |
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| theD3viL | Anlar .. but fedora works slowly than kubuntu ;) | 09:45 |
| theD3viL | on my box shure..... ;)=) | 09:46 |
| theD3viL | and apt rox ;) | 09:46 |
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| hussam | I wanna add some debian repositories? are those it ? | 09:53 |
| hussam | debhttp://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free | 09:53 |
| hussam | deb-srchttp://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free | 09:53 |
| gdh | .. on your own head be it... | 09:54 |
| _guMuTpoB | i know my issue thats not have much to do with kubuntu itself, but after I installed it, i have no options to boot into my other OS , how can I add it ? | 09:54 |
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| Anlar | what is your other os and on what hard disk it is? (/dev/hd* or something) | 10:03 |
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| _jeff | L | 10:08 |
| _jeff | Help | 10:08 |
| Anlar | :) | 10:08 |
| _jeff | Newbie on the floor | 10:08 |
| _jeff | Just install Kubuntu and can't get out ot 640X480 mode :( | 10:09 |
| Anlar | jeff: ok, I can walk you through with private messages. | 10:10 |
| hal9k1x | hello, any ideas to get more than 60Hz on my moni? | 10:14 |
| hal9k1x | i don't know where to configure it | 10:14 |
| hal9k1x | 2. what ist the name for the menu-config-program? | 10:14 |
| hal9k1x | i cannot find it in the menu? | 10:15 |
| Anlar | right click and edit the menu? | 10:15 |
| hal9k1x | Aaarglglgl! :-)) | 10:15 |
| hal9k1x | My first time with kde-3.4.0 | 10:16 |
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| whiskers | well this kubuntu seems quite nice....kvirc shows 2591 channels on just this server | 10:25 |
| theD3viL | hal9k1x, is it cool, ha? ;) | 10:25 |
| whiskers | i did not even have to change gdm to kdm...the gdm gave a kde option once i got the kde stuff installed | 10:26 |
| whiskers | so now i can log into a gnome session or a kde session | 10:27 |
| whiskers | but the kde menus are still overwhelming and need some type of single column scroll feature | 10:28 |
| sorin | from where do you get the wmvdmod.dll | 10:30 |
| sorin | windows media codecs for kaffeine | 10:30 |
| Anlar | sorin: read the wiki about restricted file formats for instructions | 10:31 |
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| theD3viL | sorin, apt-get install w32codecs | 10:31 |
| sorin | the package does not exist | 10:32 |
| theD3viL | apt-cache search divx | 10:32 |
| theD3viL | do you have extra repozitez? | 10:33 |
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| Anlar | as I said, read the wiki. | 10:34 |
| whiskers | ok..it looks like the sample invoice template is printing with kspread | 10:34 |
| whiskers | yes it printed very nice | 10:34 |
| whiskers | lets see how well the browser prints | 10:35 |
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| whiskers | yes ok...konq...printed ubuntulinux.org in perfect color...very nice | 10:39 |
| gdh | well if the preview is OK, the rest is down to cups, etc. :) | 10:39 |
| whiskers | the only problem is kexi is still crashing...and rekall will not compile due to where ubuntu chose to place qt3 | 10:39 |
| whiskers | qt3-mt | 10:39 |
| whiskers | so...without kexi,rekall on kde and without glom on gnome.....the database stuff is still lacking | 10:40 |
| Anlar | you just don't know how to. | 10:42 |
| whiskers | Anlar: well it beats the hell out of me...but none of that stuff seems to work at all | 10:42 |
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| whiskers | Anlar: maybe later it will | 10:43 |
| Anlar | yes, after you have learnt more skills | 10:43 |
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| sproingie | whiskers: you might also try konversation, or if you like a gaim-ish interface, kontact | 10:44 |
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| Anlar | sKype is there as well :) | 10:45 |
| sproingie | really wish i hadn't cheaped out with the ATI card | 10:46 |
| sproingie | i thought linux 3d support might be just "not as good". never thought it'd be nonexistent | 10:46 |
| Anlar | what card? | 10:46 |
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| whiskers | Anlar: well for one thing...that scons approach just can't find the qtlibs to compile....they seem to have been put in /usr/share/qt3/lib | 10:47 |
| sproingie | radeon 9800 pro ez. nice card on windows, only cost me $120 | 10:47 |
| whiskers | Anlar: but scons just can't find them | 10:47 |
| Anlar | whiskers: yes, tell then it to ./configure, dummy | 10:47 |
| whiskers | Anlar: so i have not been able to compile recall | 10:47 |
| Anlar | sproingie: that's a Sweet card with Linux as well, I have had that | 10:47 |
| sproingie | Anlar: no, it's a *crummy* card on Linux | 10:47 |
| whiskers | Anlar: you can't use ./configure becuase the cvs tree of rekall does not give out a Makfile | 10:47 |
| buz_ | sweet? ati linux drivers suck donkey ass | 10:47 |
| Anlar | whiskers: actually you can generate the makefile yourself. :) | 10:48 |
| Anlar | sproingie: I have had that 9800 Pro (atlantis) with Linux and DAMN it was faster than on Windows and really really sweet. | 10:48 |
| sproingie | Anlar: there is basically no 3d support. at all. the gl drivers merely crash instantly | 10:48 |
| whiskers | Anlar: ok...i would be interested in trying that...i tried..make -f Makefile.cvs qt3....but nothing happened | 10:48 |
| Anlar | didn't for me :] | 10:48 |
| buz_ | and still no composite support | 10:48 |
| buz_ | my next card will be nvidia thats for sure | 10:48 |
| sproingie | composite is still a gimmick at this stage | 10:48 |
| whiskers | Anlar: and kexi did compile but crashes everywhere | 10:49 |
| sproingie | its slow even if its well supported | 10:49 |
| whiskers | Anlar: so i just don't see a database solution yet | 10:49 |
| Anlar | composity is barely alpha stage stuff at this point, don't waste your time | 10:49 |
| sproingie | i pretty much reboot to windows to use blender | 10:49 |
| Anlar | whiskers: well, you just don't know your compiler tools.. :) | 10:49 |
| sproingie | and forget about games | 10:49 |
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| Anlar | sproingie: I have used _a lot_ Blender on Linux and it has been just AWESOME | 10:49 |
| Anlar | and yes, specifically with 9800 pro. :) | 10:50 |
| sproingie | Anlar: it's quite awesome on windows too. especially with working hw-accellerated gl | 10:50 |
| Anlar | and opengl did work awesome. | 10:50 |
| sproingie | maybe it's a amd64 thing. maybe they don't test to see that they actually work | 10:50 |
| Anlar | I played some games on Linux and they were really faster than on Windows.. the Windows games. :) | 10:50 |
| whiskers | Anlar: well i tried putting in the latest m4, autoconf, automake, and running aclocal...but nothing helps with rekall...i just don't know how to create a Makefile...and they don't supply one | 10:50 |
| Anlar | whiskers: :) | 10:51 |
| sproingie | Anlar: what'd you have to do to make 3d work? | 10:51 |
| sproingie | hell, even opengl screensavers manage to not just crash, they take X with it | 10:51 |
| Anlar | I just used the installer with their instructions. The trick with opengl was to make the library point to a correct one. The installer isn't a good one with that. | 10:52 |
| theD3viL | Anlar witch games did you play ? | 10:53 |
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| Anlar | My favorite was Natural Selection, naturally. :) and I did lots of AAO. they were the most hardware intensive games I played. | 10:53 |
| theD3viL | hm | 10:54 |
| sproingie | not sure i want to install all six cd's worth on the linux side too tho | 10:54 |
| theD3viL | i have UT .. but when i wanna install it it said to me an erorr ... "-lp" | 10:54 |
| whiskers | Anlar: maybe if i could get the php module working with apace2...i might could try DBMaster | 10:56 |
| whiskers | Anlar: but the php module is not working with apache2 on ubunut | 10:56 |
| Anlar | lol | 10:56 |
| Anlar | yes it is. | 10:57 |
| whiskers | Anlar: on ubuntu | 10:57 |
| whiskers | Anlar: no it is not | 10:57 |
| whiskers | Anlar: unless there is a patch | 10:57 |
| Anlar | yes it is. | 10:57 |
| whiskers | Anlar: no it says in the logs there is some kind of permissions problem | 10:57 |
| Anlar | nah. you just suck again. :) | 10:57 |
| whiskers | Anlar: and i just can't figure that out for anything | 10:57 |
| Anlar | what is the error you get? | 10:58 |
| whiskers | Anlar: because it has the same permissions as the ssl module | 10:58 |
| whiskers | Anlar: well in the phplog...it says ...well let me go read again | 10:58 |
| whiskers | Anlar: now i can't get into /var/log/php4-apd and the hidden directory www-data | 11:00 |
| whiskers | Anlar: konsole will not let me cd into that directory | 11:03 |
| Anlar | good. you don't deserve it. so.. kexi would be a nice program eh? I will compile it now just for the fun. ;) | 11:03 |
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| whiskers | Anlar: yes kexi does compile but it crashes when you try to create a database on postgres just like glom | 11:04 |
| Anlar | ooh, I will install postgres too. | 11:04 |
| Anlar | let's see.. :) | 11:04 |
| whiskers | Anlar: i don't know what the hell the problem is...that linux just has no database solution yet | 11:04 |
| Anlar | no. the problem just is that you suck. | 11:04 |
| whiskers | Anlar: well maybe so...but i try | 11:05 |
| Anlar | let's see.. now umm the kexi. | 11:06 |
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| sproingie | doesn't openoffice have an access-ish thing? | 11:07 |
| Anlar | yes and it really rocks. | 11:07 |
| Anlar | but I will install Kexi now :) | 11:07 |
| hussam | I know I can manually do export blahblah=/location/to/dir manually. How can I make this env variable systam wide avialable | 11:08 |
| gdh | Anlar: Perhaps you could do something useful like create a kexi package for Ubuntu instead of just inflating your ego in this channel? | 11:08 |
| Anlar | I can create packages yes, adn will.. I am at this moment too tired to do quality packages though. Perhaps at the summer I will do many. | 11:09 |
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| gdh | Do a shit one and pretend you're Red Hat :) | 11:09 |
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| sproingie | do one that deletes /usr and pretend you're Gentoo | 11:10 |
| Anlar | I've been using gentoo for over a year and not packet ever was destructive on my system. and Iwas running ~ arch | 11:11 |
| whiskers | Anlar: and on top of this...i can't even get the precompiled database stuff working on win98 either | 11:11 |
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| whiskers | Anlar: i tried the xiopen web server with the windows php module and DBMaster template....and postgresql for windows and that shit doesn't work either | 11:12 |
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| whiskers | Anlar: i just don't know what the hell the problem is that there is no free database solution | 11:12 |
| gdh | whiskers: All the cool kids are too busy wasting time implementing useless shit like transparent window managers, 3D desktops and similar shit. | 11:13 |
| Anlar | whiskers: there is. | 11:13 |
| whiskers | Anlar: well rekall doesn't give out a Makefile...scons doesn't work worth a shit....php is broken on windows and linux for dbmaster....and kexi and glom won't create a new database on postgresql | 11:14 |
| whiskers | Anlar: so you know...maybe later | 11:15 |
| Anlar | whiskers: the fact that your system is broken and you are a skilless whining little shit doesn't mean that they do not exist. | 11:15 |
| gdh | :) | 11:15 |
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| gdh | Anlar: Out of interest, what are you drinking tonight? | 11:16 |
| Anlar | nothing. | 11:16 |
| gdh | Wow cool :) | 11:16 |
| Anlar | I'm used to compiling kde manually from cvs and stuff.. I have compiled Kexi numerous times already, including the depedencies. While on Gentoo and I wanted the _really_ bleeding edge. there was no problems whatsoever around. | 11:16 |
| Anlar | not ego boosting but (k)ubuntu is doing their best and no one really forces you to select it if you can't handle it. | 11:17 |
| gdh | True, a binary distro will always be a little behind. | 11:17 |
| gdh | esp. if that distro is now 'frozen' | 11:17 |
| Anlar | especially one with ties to Debian that has made the last stable release at 2000 or 2001. | 11:18 |
| gdh | July 2002 :) | 11:18 |
| gdh | but yes, $longtime ago | 11:18 |
| whiskers | Anlar: well whatever....i just tried to install the shit ubuntu made....so don't knock me about the system....i had nothing to do with it | 11:18 |
| Anlar | it's that fresh? whoa! | 11:18 |
| whiskers | Anlar: all i am telling you is that nothing works | 11:18 |
| Anlar | whiskers: actually if you did add more repositories there would be ready binary packages for the software as well. | 11:19 |
| Anlar | and they do work at least here. | 11:19 |
| whiskers | Anlar: and neither does it work on windows | 11:19 |
| Anlar | so they can't be globally broken and suck. | 11:19 |
| Anlar | from that we can draw some conclusions.. | 11:19 |
| whiskers | Anlar: well you draw what you want...but just try scons for yourself | 11:19 |
| Anlar | actually I think I am going to install that Openoffice 2.0 beta. it has nice fiel format support and all the tools I need. Including the nice database application. better that than trying to compile Kexi. I am trying to compile Gentoo actually atm | 11:21 |
| Anlar | it's fast to install from the rpms.. a few seconds at most. | 11:22 |
| whiskers | Anlar: well i have to say that i did at least have php working on gentoo....and perhaps could have used DBMASTER.php | 11:26 |
| whiskers | Anlar: but well i am trying to work with ubuntu | 11:26 |
| sproingie | mmmm scons | 11:26 |
| gdh | and butter and tea :) | 11:26 |
| sproingie | i wish more things used scons | 11:27 |
| sproingie | i was amazed when i used it. same file, with like a couple lines having to do with compiler flags, compiled program and static and shared libs on linux and win32 | 11:27 |
| sproingie | none of this godawful autotools and libtool nonsense | 11:28 |
| sproingie | which dont even work on windows anyway | 11:28 |
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| buz_ | oo 1.9.76 from debian is pretty buggy | 11:29 |
| buz_ | the win version is much more stable | 11:29 |
| buz_ | now if anyone got more current debs... | 11:29 |
| buz_ | shout! | 11:29 |
| buz_ | no wait that was even in universe i think | 11:29 |
| elric | hi I have a USB network card with the atmel chipset that kubuntu didnt detect, can anyone please help me fix this? | 11:30 |
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| gdh | elric: wireless LAN or wired? | 11:31 |
| whiskers | Anlar: now what i really cannot understand is that psql works on postgresql and pgadmin3 works...but glom and kexi just don't yet. | 11:31 |
| whiskers | Anlar: and without php working on apache....we can't test DBMaster.php | 11:31 |
| elric | gdh: wireless | 11:31 |
| whiskers | Anlar: and without a makefile...we can't compile rekall | 11:31 |
| Anlar | whiskers: you can't, that is. | 11:32 |
| elric | i have used it with linux previously, SuSe picked it up after i downloaded the firmware from their packages, kubuntu doesnt seem to have it in the packages | 11:32 |
| gdh | elric: I probably have the same one. tried installing linux-restricted-modules package? | 11:32 |
| elric | gdh apit-get install linux-restricted-modules package at the command line? | 11:33 |
| gdh | elric: append whatver arch you're using -686, -k7 etc. | 11:33 |
| gdh | so that it matches your running kernel (check with uname -r) | 11:34 |
| elric | ok gdh thanks, i shall give it a whirl | 11:34 |
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| elric | ok another issue, how would I add a repository to apt-get? all it does now is check the repository from the CDROM | 11:37 |
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| elric | ok got it, i need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list | 11:39 |
| gdh | edit /etc/apt/sources.list | 11:39 |
| gdh | heh | 11:39 |
| elric | but what repository do i put in there? | 11:39 |
| theD3viL | anyone knows where in xchat set up time... ? | 11:39 |
| theD3viL | anyone knows where in xchat set up time... ? becouse i dont have dispay it. | 11:39 |
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| gdh | Uh it's there, you're not looking hard enough | 11:40 |
| gdh | 'timestamp logs' or similar | 11:40 |
| theD3viL | aha .. tnx | 11:40 |
| theD3viL | hm | 11:40 |
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| elric | i am impressed with kubuntu, very fast on this mediocre box. | 11:41 |
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| elric | ok gdh, apt-get said i have the restricted modules installed already | 11:42 |
| gdh | I can't really understand how one distro can be'slow' and another 'fast' ... | 11:42 |
| gdh | elric: Ah well - was only a guess - I don't use the card on my Kubuntu machine :) | 11:43 |
| elric | ah ok | 11:43 |
| theD3viL | but it is normal kubuntu need 480 RAM? | 11:44 |
| elric | theD3viL: i am running it on 192 mb of ram | 11:44 |
| elric | and its fine. | 11:44 |
| whiskers | Anlar: and don't blame this shit on me...i did not have anything to do with it...this was ubuntus idea and they did the work | 11:44 |
| whiskers | Anlar: but uh....i am just saying that the database stuff doesn't work yet | 11:44 |
| theD3viL | elric, i have 512 mb ram but it seems to need it all! | 11:44 |
| Anlar | whiskers: they did the work on the core set. the rest was added as-is, for the adventorous users. you added those repositories. | 11:44 |
| gdh | theD3viL: Linux will use as much RAM as there is available for caching / disk buffers, etc. | 11:45 |
| theD3viL | gdh, what about swap? | 11:45 |
| gdh | there should be little swap in use if you have 512MB of RAM etc. | 11:46 |
| gdh | it of course depends on what apps you're running | 11:46 |
| theD3viL | 3mb swap is in use, but what swap is it? | 11:46 |
| gdh | that's normal, nothing to worry about | 11:47 |
| theD3viL | is swap some kind of ram? | 11:47 |
| gdh | it'll be stuff that isn't used very often, you can be sure of that :) | 11:47 |
| elric | it is almost as fast as my FreeBSD installation with kde 3.4 but I think i will keep kubuntu going if I can get this wireless card working | 11:48 |
| theD3viL | gdh can u send me screenshot of your desktop to see how other people have desktop? | 11:48 |
| gdh | theD3viL: Uh? It's plain green with a Trash icon. not worth taking a snap of | 11:49 |
| theD3viL | =)) | 11:49 |
| theD3viL | superkaramba or stuff ? | 11:49 |
| gdh | I have no idea what that means. | 11:49 |
| theD3viL | wait i will send you snap of my desktop, you will se what superkaramba is. | 11:50 |
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| hondje | How long until that kdelibs thing is going stop borking apt? | 11:50 |
| theD3viL | gdh, recive the file.... | 11:51 |
| gdh | gosh, DCC. how quaint | 11:53 |
| gdh | haven't done this in years. | 11:53 |
| gdh | try again, I don't sit at the screen permanently | 11:53 |
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| theD3viL | how did you send file other ? | 11:55 |
| gdh | ah yes as I expected, utterly needless =) | 11:56 |
| theD3viL | ? | 11:56 |
| gdh | eye candy, fluff, nonsense, pointless :) | 11:57 |
| gdh | Do I /need/ to know what kernel version I'm using or how much RAM is in my own PC all the time? Of course not. | 11:57 |
| theD3viL | hm | 11:58 |
| theD3viL | what about... i dont know ... | 11:58 |
| gdh | :) | 11:59 |
| gdh | If I was a real minimalist I wouldn't be using KDE, but some stuff is just blatantly excessive. | 11:59 |
| theD3viL | hm, what about you? what programs do you runing now? | 11:59 |
| theD3viL | you said you have only trash on your desktop, why ? you must always go to start, programs, blablabla | 12:00 |
| theD3viL | :) | 12:00 |
| whiskers | Anlar: now when i look at http://127.0.0.1...the apache web page comes up but the phpsystem test fails | 12:00 |
| Anlar | that's nice. :) | 12:01 |
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