=== _matej [~matej@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:02] <_matej> TNXXXXXXXX!!! [12:02] <_matej> :) [12:02] <_matej> wiiiiiiiiiii [12:02] <_matej> it works ;) === _matej is now known as theD3viL [12:03] yes, you retard managed to read some instructions after all. [12:03] theD3viL: glxgears >1000fps? [12:04] (you need to let it run for around 10sec) [12:04] 8223 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1644.600 FPS [12:04] =) [12:04] fglxinfo or something alike should tell better if his 3d is proper [12:04] ok. [12:04] :> === seabass [~seabass@ppp-69-218-208-24.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:06] 553 frames in 6.0 seconds = 92.167 FPS - *rawk* [12:06] i am afraid that ubuntu is going to have to release a new version with better libraries say within 6 months [12:06] feel my Matrox mystique power... [12:08] whiskers: the libraries are just fine. :) === darkaudi1 [~bpack@pool-151-205-45-125.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.220] has joined #kubuntu === _phunky [~phunky@user-94-208-151-83.e7even.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:13] Anlar, well the debian sid libraries are way ahead of ubuntu [12:13] so? [12:13] Anlar, and many important applications like kexi and krita will make use of the latest libraries [12:13] yes. but the libraries are not needed yet since kexi and krita have not been packaged for ubuntu. [12:14] so the point of whining is moot. [12:14] Anlar, no...they are not needed yet because the work is not ready for prime time [12:14] Anlar, but it will be. [12:14] no one forces you to use (k)ubuntu. [12:14] the joy of choice and open source. you want bleeding edge? take your crying to gentoo [12:15] I've been using unstable gentoo for the last year. [12:15] gdh, i don't have a large enough hard disk for gentoo [12:15] whiskers: I don't have enough free time for gentoo :) [12:15] ~20 gigs do fine with gentoo. [12:15] oddly enough I use my computer to do work, not compile software. [12:16] gdh, well that is ashame...how are you ever going to compare a gcc4 compilation performance with a gcc3.3. performance [12:17] hey, the kdelibs / kdelibs-data issue was fixed in the sources too [12:18] whiskers: True, many a sleepless night I've spent mulling that very dilemma :) === Si [~simon@host81-154-197-67.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] Hi all. I have a quick question about konqueror in Kubuntu, if you don't mind :) I'd like to set konqueror up so that it automatically updates its directory listing (I use it as a file manager only) whenever a file in that directory changes. === kakalto is now known as KK|Grass [12:25] Ordinarily I'd use fam, but it is not installed and attempting to install it threatens to remove the whole of KDE! Can anyone help me with this? [12:26] Si, well you have to go over to kde.org and let them consider your ideas [12:26] Si, then they will decide if your ideas are worth implementing [12:26] time to eat :D [12:27] (usually after 3 or 4 months) [12:27] whiskers:I don't really think this is a KDE problem. In other distros, it works fine with fam - it's just that in Kubuntu, fam is not installed. [12:27] Si, oh ...well in that case maybe it is just some configuration parameter already designed by KDE [12:28] Ok. Has noone else here tried to get this up and running? It's a pain having to manually press refresh all the time ;) [12:28] Si, well we are too busy trying to keep up with all the stuff on slashdot [12:29] Heh - I see :) [12:29] Si, sometimes there are many slashdotters interested in saying something about an issue...that it takes the whole day just to read them all [12:30] Ok, I'll hack on it later and see if I can get it working with gamin. Just out of interest, am I the only one who actually finds this feature desirable? [12:31] Si, uh...i would think it would be nice to have a refreshed view....i get the same type of problem in nautilus on gnome when i change CDs [12:32] Si, it tries to list the files of the old CD [12:32] Oh, and here's a little perl script I wrote to make reading slashdot a little more bearable: http://tastethegoonage.com/slashdotgrab.html [12:32] I think it's all up to date. [12:33] Si, hey that is nice work...you mean you don't have to keep clicking on the subcomments [12:33] Si, you get to see them all on one page [12:34] Whiskers:That's right, and when you reload, all the comments that were loaded last time are greyed out, so you don't have to load them again. [12:34] Si, wow...that is brilliant work. [12:34] Si, i bet a lot of people will like that [12:35] Whiskers:There's quite a few flaws, though - for one, it doesn't actually log in, so it doesn't use any of your preferences (e.g. threshold, etc). [12:35] Whiskers:Thanks :) === edulix [~edulix@80.103.115.117] has joined #kubuntu === blackmore [~jipe@caladan.mine.nu] has joined #kubuntu === randabis [~randabis@cpe-67-10-186-21.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === Blissex [~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu === blackmore [~jipe@caladan.mine.nu] has joined #kubuntu === mick8187 [~mick8187@adsl-35-138-50.dab.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has left #kubuntu ["Lmnar"] [01:11] hmm this is weird [01:12] sudo is weird === mainer [~mainer3@bb-205-209-66-153.gwi.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:16] sudo rocks [01:17] anyway, I'm getting an apt-get error with kdelibs-data [01:17] dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb [01:17] known Bug :) [01:18] not shure, if the bug is in the Package or in dpkg, because this is very strange [01:20] what package contains kcontrolcenter? [01:20] kcontrol [01:21] (which is also the name of the binary :) === blackmore [~jipe@caladan.mine.nu] has joined #kubuntu [01:27] if i want my windowskey to run kde menu..? === spreda [~bill@203-87-74-79.dial-lns1.nsw.chariot.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === elis [~elis@81-178-254-118.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:36] hmm amarok won't start :/ [01:40] randabis, might you have other sound apps running? [01:41] gahan, I don't think there's any way to get the windows key to work on its own -- best you can do is in combination with other keys [01:41] I use the windows key for all sorts of stuff like that, very convenient, avoids keybinding conflicts === Soyburg [~joe@p54B16DDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === AceMan [~me@81-178-254-118.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu === torpid [~pral@5e4f043e86741551.node.tor] has joined #KUBUNTU === KK|Grass is now known as kakalto === Zugot [~bryan@pcp0010860530pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] I'll be bacxk [02:15] I am trying to make a kmenu entry for firestarter and have tried 'sudo firstarter', which didn't work. What command should I use instead if I want to be prompted for the password? === gbhat [~gbhat@adsl-68-93-90-168.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] anyone having problems due to KDE update from Kubuntu yesterday? [02:18] hm [02:18] what update? :P [02:18] i upgraded today and have none so far. May I ask if your problems occured after a reboot and what kind of problems they are? [02:19] at the bottom of my question is of course, whether I should shut down my box tonight .) [02:19] kde-libs update [02:20] my bad kdelibs-data [02:20] Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ... [02:20] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--unpack): [02:20] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf [02:20] Errors were encountered while processing: [02:20] /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb [02:20] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [02:21] that is the error I get on running apt-get upgrade [02:21] I did it with kynaptic and had no errors. === mick8187 [~mick8187@adsl-35-138-50.dab.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:21] well I am running Ubuntu [02:21] have installed KDE on it using apt-get so I reckon it is recognised as kubuntu [02:22] wait just a second, i recall seeing a thread in the mailing list archive [02:22] Hoary btw === leafw [~LeafWind@FW-171-241.go.retevision.es] has joined #kubuntu [02:22] Soyburg, got a link? [02:22] any powerpc user with problems using wireless LANs with encryption? === richard [~richard@ip68-97-40-29.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:23] http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2005-April/000540.html [02:23] no idea if that helps, I didn't read it. [02:26] that command no worky [02:26] some wrong option set for dpkg [02:28] Soyburg, alright that worked. TY [02:29] you are welcome [02:29] now to see if KDE works === andrew__ [~andrew@110.7.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === mikerobi [~mike@pcp09228793pcs.sanarb01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === mfilizzi [~mfilizzi@pcp05017262pcs.blumtn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:33] just installed kubuntu, but my old kde settings are being ignored, what do I need to do? === mikerobi [~mike@pcp09228793pcs.sanarb01.mi.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu [] === MattFilizzi [~mfilizzi@pcp05017262pcs.blumtn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === MattFilizzi [~mfilizzi@pcp05017262pcs.blumtn01.pa.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === amu_ [~amu@CPE-60-225-18-37.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === mfilizzi [~mfilizzi@pcp05017262pcs.blumtn01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === randabis [~randabis@cpe-67-10-186-21.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === pk [~pk@modemcable221.10-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu === fractaglfx [~mikerobi@69.241.235.20] has joined #kubuntu === fractaglfx [~mikerobi@69.241.235.20] has left #kubuntu [] [03:08] gbhat: have you tried removing knetworkconf first, then installing kdelibs-data, and finally reinstalling knetwork conf? this worked for me. === KaiL [KaiL@pD9E331C2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:12] [GStreamer Error] ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program [03:12] uhm? wtf? [03:12] (error in amarok) === Soyburg [~joe@p54B16DDA.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Bye"] [03:16] KaiL: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#sharing === Blissex [~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #KUbuntu ["Konversation] [03:16] lol, only gstreamer thinks, this is a problem [03:17] tvtime works, artsd works === billytwowilly [~chris@S01060040f4acc23c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:26] ...and the other two amarok engines too... bad for gstreamer *dpkg -P* === bubi [~bubi@BSN-77-231-196.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu === wirwzd [~wirwzd@c-24-218-115-209.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:35] speaking of Amarok, in "Configure Amarok" under the engine tab, I have no sound system listed -- anyone know why? [03:35] also, is there anyway to turn off the eye candy in that thing? [03:36] smouche: do you have the amarok-arts package (or any of the other ones) installed? [03:36] let me check mfilizzi [03:37] yeah, amarok-arts [03:38] I see I think -- I had assumed I was using xine, but that's not installed for Amarok... [03:38] hmm, odd, that is the one that provides the arts engine for the sound system. [03:39] you can install the xine engine if you would like to use it (apt-get install amarok-xine) [03:39] well, mfilizzi, it's playing fine -- I was just wondering why nothing was listed [03:39] and I'm surprised that Amarok needs a seperate package for xine -- I have totem-xine installed; other apps seem to use it [03:40] thanks for the lead, mfilizzi [03:40] I believe the debian package has them all bundled together, but in ubuntu they broke it up [03:40] does anyone knows how can i install newest version of kvirc 3.2 the one provided with kubuntu is outdated and it seems i cant get it thru apt [03:41] very strange, but I'm getting a much wider stereo image with amarok than I did with other players... [03:41] maybe I'm imagining it! 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I think I have some modules I don't need.. How can I disable then in Kubuntu ? [05:40] brazmetal: what do you mean by module? [05:42] Riddell, I don't know very well... I think the ones that appear when i run lsmod (It lists the modules running, right?) [05:43] brazmetal: they won't do any harm [05:43] you can try sudo rmmod foo === NinerFan [~NinerFan@cip-75-154.bbs.surfcity.net] has joined #kubuntu === dhanish [~dhanish@d141-103-13.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:54] Riddell, how they don't do any harm? Don't they make the system heavy ? === spreda [user3@203-87-74-188.dial-lns1.nsw.chariot.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === NinerFan [~NinerFan@cip-75-154.bbs.surfcity.net] has left #kubuntu ["Is] === smouche [~bc@cpe-24-90-94-112.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === AceMan [~me@81-178-254-118.dsl.pipex.com] has left #kubuntu [] === eggy [~eggy@eggy.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu === pimaniac [~pimaniac@208-25-56-205.stk.inreach.net] has joined #kubuntu === glass-eye shakes his fist at kdelibs-data === pimaniac [~pimaniac@208-25-56-205.stk.inreach.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Trickyphillips [~Trickyphi@adsl-68-124-57-143.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:31] brazmetal: they are unlikely to add any weight to your computer === stranger [~banjo@adsl-68-90-247-129.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] if i want to take a database server out of automatic startup at boot...how is the best way to do that...just take the file out of init.d === mikb [~mikb@c211-30-253-227.belrs1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === smouche [~bc@cpe-24-90-94-112.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === phxguy [~phxguy@ip24-251-194-72.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === smouche [~bc@cpe-24-90-94-112.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === brenton [~brenton@ip68-110-139-182.nc.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-28-83.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === PSIplus [~psiplus@85-124-21-102.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #Kubuntu === chavo [~chavo@28.sub-70-212-7.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [~shuerlima@212-41-117-22.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu === martinjh99 [~martin@pc-62-30-33-77-pr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === jiger [~jiger@202.159.249.85] has joined #kubuntu [08:45] hello everyone. doesn't kubuntu/ubuntu come with C/C++ installed? [08:47] damn nobody has any idea??!?!! [08:55] is there any fast convenient way to just download every file in an http directory? [09:05] wget -R ? === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [09:06] wget -r === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === buz [~buz@217-162-134-188.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [09:24] actually i need something different [09:25] i need to download every file directly linked to by links in a page. === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] === halo023 [~halo@219.95.15.73] has joined #kubuntu === wolwerin [~halo@219.95.15.73] has joined #kubuntu [09:37] torpid: wget -r -l 1 url doesnt work ? [09:37] i'll try [09:38] no, it just gets the index.html, which is the only file in this directory === whiskey_1 [~whiskers@ppp-68-89-184-102.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:38] can you paste the url ? [09:39] has anybody successfully compiled rekall to see what shape it is in [09:39] i am having the toughest time to set it up....it can't find the qt3 libs === wolwerin [~halo@219.95.15.73] has joined #kubuntu [09:40] i thought it may help until kexi is ready [09:40] has anybody tried to compile rekall at all === edulix [~edulix@80.103.115.117] has joined #kubuntu === _pimaniac [~pimaniac@208-25-53-208.stk.inreach.net] has joined #kubuntu === _pimaniac [~pimaniac@208-25-53-208.stk.inreach.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === guran [~guran@one08.rsn.bth.se] has joined #kubuntu === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout === wolwerin slaps halo023 around a bit with a large trout [09:57] right... [09:58] heh [09:58] nice [10:00] hi ! [10:00] I want to control fans and such things via i8k kernel module [10:00] wich graphical program do you recommend ? === Almindor [~ales@chello082119101212.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [10:01] I'm looking one for kde === bubi [~bubi@BSN-77-231-196.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:03] hello [10:04] did anyone tried to install Kvirc 3.2 on kubuntu [10:04] i cant [10:04] actually i dont know how to install Qt [10:04] :( === Almindor [~ales@chello082119101212.chello.sk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [10:08] bubi: just install kvirc using synaptic or similar [10:10] bubi: sudo apt-get install kvirc [10:12] that gives me only an old kvirc 2.1 [10:16] aha [10:16] bubi: apt-get install konversation ? ;) [10:16] how do i get my windows key to open kde menu? === _phunky is now known as phunky [10:17] shogouki: ur funny im using konversation right now :P [10:17] but kvirc is more likeable to me [10:18] Choubaka: i tied to install deb package but it gives me errors [10:18] tried* [10:19] where did you get that deb? [10:19] on kvirc page [10:19] hmm... [10:19] official release [10:19] you could try building it yourself [10:20] i tried but wants Qt and i dont know how ti install Qt [10:20] bubi: hmm [10:20] try apt-get build-dep kvirc [10:20] maybe it has the same deps as kvirc 2.1 [10:20] build a debian package. [10:20] wait === bubi waiting :) [10:24] Hmm. [10:24] the debs are compiled against qt 3.3.4 [10:24] I wonder from what sources they compiled the debs [10:24] the default source tarball isn't debianised. === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [10:26] as i understood the tarball is os independent [10:27] Well, it could still be debianised. :) [10:27] mplayer's tarball is debianised, for example. [10:27] all you need is a properly set up debian/ dir [10:27] i am new to debian in general, i used to have FC3 before [10:27] bubi: where does it fail? [10:28] QT [10:28] in ./configure? [10:28] yes [10:28] dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kvirc: [10:28] kvirc depends on kvirc-data (>= 2:3.0.0); however: [10:28] Version of kvirc-data on system is 2:2.1.3.1-2. === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [10:28] kvirc depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.4); however: [10:28] Version of libqt3c102-mt on system is 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3. [10:28] dpkg: error processing kvirc (--install): [10:28] dependency problems - leaving unconfigured [10:28] Errors were encountered while processing: [10:28] the first one we could probably fix with another deb [10:29] alright... [10:29] thats deb package [10:29] the second one is probably not even true [10:29] can we somehow hack the deb to depend on 3.3.3? [10:29] i doubt it won't work with 3.3.3 [10:29] Hi, anybody here know howto solve pb's when upgrading 'kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb'? [10:29] They're compiled for sarge. [10:29] yeah === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] [10:29] but qt 3.3.3 would probably be compatible with 3.3.4 [10:30] know what? [10:30] I found the sources for the debs [10:30] so I can compile one for Hoary. :) [10:30] mhh it got monster dependencies to build from source it seems [10:31] Choubaka: does that mean i can hope for :) [10:31] while were at it [10:31] when do we get kaffeine ubuntu3 in hoary??? [10:32] brb [10:32] buz: you probably won't. [10:32] ubuntu doesn't get that many new packages. [10:32] only security updates. [10:32] you know the current version is totally broken do you? [10:32] no I didn't [10:32] Then they probably will fix it :) [10:32] they did [10:32] only didnt put it to the mirrors :-( [10:33] now if someone would fix udev on breezy.... === malte [~fom@81-224-200-44-no45.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:34] but that doesn't bother me today [10:34] i got exam results and i'm happy ;-) [10:34] \o/ [10:38] bubi: I'm compiling a nice Hoary package now. [10:38] just wait. :) === bubi gives Choubaka a cup of nice hot coffe [10:42] and waiting :P === guran [~guran@one08.rsn.bth.se] has joined #kubuntu [10:44] buz u got results today ?? [10:44] yeah [10:44] its saturday here [10:45] so it is here [10:45] no school [10:45] mail still gets delivered ;-) [10:45] hehe true [10:45] a modern school [10:45] what are u studying [10:45] economics [10:45] nice === bubi is old [10:46] long sice school days :) [10:46] since* [10:46] well i'd rather be 5 years older so i coul dhave surfed the dot com wave [10:47] :) [10:47] chances are i wouldnt have to work these days ;) [10:47] and go in space and found a cool debian based distro ? :) [10:47] something like that yeah [10:47] only i'd probably have based it around BSD ;) === skaman [~skaman@host198-6.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === _P_ [~princoscr@host-84-220-135-150.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === Almindor [~ales@chello082119101212.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [10:56] is there a way to turn on antialiasing for GTK apps? [10:56] (of fonts) === skaman [~skaman@host198-6.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === spreda_ [user3@203-87-79-218.dial-lns2.nsw.chariot.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [11:12] Damn, the compilation takes time :< [11:13] what comp u have [11:14] brb need reboot === spiral [~spiral@84.5.160.83] has joined #kubuntu [11:19] hi === bubi [~bubi@BSN-77-231-196.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:23] uhm how can i kill a kdetv [11:23] it does not want to end [11:25] bash: kill: kdetv: arguments must be process or job IDs [11:25] how can i get that id [11:25] pidof kdetv [11:26] or just kill `pidof kdetv` <- note they're backticks [11:26] hmm pidof kdetv freezes console :( [11:26] I have a 1.2GHz Duron processor and 512 MB of RAM. [11:27] bubi: ? :| [11:27] hmm [11:27] ps -A|grep kdetv [11:28] does it show ? [11:28] when i enter the command : kill `pidof kdetv` cursor jumps into next line and thats it [11:28] nothing === spiral_ [~spiral@84.5.148.100] has joined #kubuntu [11:28] blank line [11:28] try ctrl-C to break the process :P [11:28] bubi: then kdetv isn [11:29] isn't running it seems === spiral_ is now known as spiral [11:29] kdetv: Unexpected argument 'isn'. [11:29] kdetv: Use --help to get a list of available command line options. [11:29] :D [11:29] I didn't mean you to run that. [11:29] ahh lol [11:30] im a newbie [11:30] sorry [11:30] No need to apologise [11:30] You'll get the hang of things eventually. [11:30] hehe i hope [11:30] so what is this "isn" mean [11:31] I just pressed enter by accident. [11:31] :P [11:31] ahh [11:31] and i was so eager to run it in console :P [11:32] When asking for help on IRC, you get to use the console a lot [11:32] it's not because Linux distros are difficult and there's no GUI for the tasks. [11:33] so any other way to get rid of this kdetv, i tried to reboot but it starts automatically [11:33] It's because the command line is several times faster and more powerful than most GUI apps :P [11:33] yeah i know that :P [11:34] learned in the old DOS days [11:34] the dos command line is nothing compared to modern shells though [11:34] :) [11:34] well u have to have in mind that i started to use Linux just a few months ago [11:35] Yeah, sure. [11:35] i made a permanent decision to never again install win on my comp [11:35] Cool. [11:36] Let's hope you can stay that wayl [11:36] s/l/./ [11:37] I don't have windows on aby of my computers either. [11:37] any* [11:37] damn I'm typoing again [11:37] ohh. [11:37] :( [11:38] Just after I managed to get those kvirc packages compiled, too. :P === spiral [~spiral@84.4.196.4] has joined #kubuntu === bubi [~bubi@BSN-77-231-196.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:40] welcome back :P [11:40] heh my comp just rebooted it self :( === spiral [~spiral@84.4.196.4] has joined #kubuntu [11:40] ?( [11:41] maybe a new feature of workrave ? :) [11:41] while i was typing a message here [11:41] It shouldn't do such things. [11:41] that's too windowsy :( [11:41] i guess it has something to do with this annoying kdetv [11:41] i cant get rid of it :( === spreda [user3@203-87-79-218.dial-lns2.nsw.chariot.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [11:42] anyways hows compiling goes :) [11:42] done :) [11:42] \o/ [11:43] just after you got connection reset :P [11:43] Choubaka: where are u from [11:43] Finland [11:43] uhh cold [11:43] nah [11:43] im from slovenia [11:43] :) [11:44] now wait a moment, I'll put the packages online [11:44] kk [11:44] so cold that only hobbies are to create kernels [11:44] lol [11:45] not true they have some of the best bands [11:45] specially in metal area :P [11:45] like Nightwish and likes === MindZEye [~mindzeye@seanparsons.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu === spiral_ [~spiral@84.5.161.217] has joined #kubuntu === spiral_ is now known as spiral [11:49] Choubaka: i have to go to store to do some shopping ill be back in an hour [11:50] hmm [11:50] wait [11:51] deb http://choubaka.no-ip.com/~jarkko/ ./ <- I created an apt repo. [11:51] you can of course just download the packages from that url directly. :p === jnoon [~jnoon@RHB-48-115.sonoma.edu] has joined #kubuntu [11:56] how can i get a volume control on my panel? the arts control applet says "arts control cannot be loaded. please check your installation" [11:57] sound works... [11:57] just no nice volume control :/ [11:58] kmix ? [11:59] Choubaka: what command do i have to issue for thaT [11:59] bubi: add the repo to your sources.list [11:59] with deb infront ? === F_for_Fragging [~sander@a82-92-1-250.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu [12:00] yeah === gahan [gahan@coyote.fsh.hu] has left #kubuntu [] [12:00] deb http://choubaka.no-ip.com/~jarkko/ ./ [12:01] note that I only have 50kB/s upstream :P [12:01] ./ at the end ? [12:01] yeah [12:02] that entire line [12:02] nothing else [12:02] there's also a source repo :) [12:02] (to comply with the GPL :P) [12:02] shogouki, thanks kmix works good... [12:02] hehe [12:03] apt or dpkg ? [12:03] you can apt-get install kvirc now [12:03] cool [12:03] and it should get the newer version [12:03] lets see if its any good [12:05] is it downloading the newer version? [12:05] yeh [12:05] :) [12:05] yeah [12:06] Setting up kvirc (2.1.3.1-2) ... [12:06] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://choubaka.no-ip.com ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/choubaka.no-ip.com_%7ejarkko_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [12:06] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://choubaka.no-ip.com ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/choubaka.no-ip.com_%7ejarkko_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [12:06] W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems [12:06] oh, it installed the old version :( [12:06] weird [12:06] \\\\\O////// [12:06] yeah [12:06] stupid me [12:07] i forgot apt-ge tupdat [12:07] Choubaka: u are a god :P [12:07] it works [12:07] bubi: :D [12:07] i always knew u finnish ppl are the best [12:07] judging by the music [12:08] ofc [12:08] true [12:08] land of nightwish, after all [12:08] yeah [12:08] :P [12:08] my kind of stuff [12:08] tho nightwish used to be better before they got famous [12:09] well i like them even now :P [12:09] yeah sure [12:09] but their older albums are better imho [12:09] now i really have to run [12:09] So, hmm. [12:09] bbl [12:09] oceanborn has a safe place in my top albums of all time list [12:10] I only really ran two commands to build those packages ;P [12:10] and used some time [12:10] nice === |buz| [~kvirc@217-162-134-188.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [12:11] <|buz|> lets see [12:12] 13:11 [freenode] CTCP VERSION reply from |buz|: KVIrc 3.2.0 'Realia' - 2005.02.26 - build Sat Apr 23 08:38:52 UTC 2005 :) [12:14] <|buz|> mhh kinda overloaded this thing [12:14] <|buz|> not sure if i don't prefer konversation === guran [~guran@one08.rsn.bth.se] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:18] you kde people have a huge selection of IRC clients. :P [12:18] I only know one decent GTK2 client. [12:18] most gnome apps suck anyway [12:18] I disagree :P [12:18] we only need gimp (and maybe firefox) [12:19] possible exception synaptic [12:19] ok firefox [12:19] but thats no real gnome app [12:19] thunderbird, too [12:19] besides, KDE lacks proper input method support.. [12:19] and gimp probably got the worst gui ever [12:19] krita already beats it senseless === Livingstone [~victor@80.103.131.183] has joined #kubuntu [12:20] btw where did those krita debs live again [12:20] i accidentally removed krita === Livingstone [~victor@80.103.131.183] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:20] ah no [12:20] still here [12:20] weird [12:20] but saying "most gnome apps suck" is not wise. :P [12:21] as if nautilus or evolution was any good [12:21] I don't use either. [12:21] oh, well, "gnome" apps may suck [12:22] but "most" GTK2 apps don't [12:22] I don't use Gnome anyway :) [12:24] ubuntu% apt-cache search krita | wc -l [12:24] 0 === klaas [~klaas@d54C3DE59.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu [12:25] :/ === spiral [~spiral@84.5.161.217] has joined #kubuntu === dvoid [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu === golanx [~golan@81-174-12-108.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.220] has joined #kubuntu === IlMonaco [~spike@host228-37.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu === IlMonaco [~spike@host228-37.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === gahan [gahan@coyote.fsh.hu] has joined #kubuntu [12:55] my kdm doesnt display user list as it did before... why? === _raf [~raf@98.0.223.82.arsystel.com] has joined #kubuntu === smouche [~bc@cpe-24-90-94-112.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === _matej [~matej@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu === _matej is now known as theD3viL === uniq_ [~frode@infobeam.intrahouse.no1.asap-asp.net] has joined #kubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp129-171.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === cristian [~cristian@84-122-235-0.onocable.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:24] any ksokoban pros? :) [01:26] jnoon: blocked ? [01:28] lol.. sasquatch level 2... thats a bad sign i guess [01:33] jnoon: move all blocks on the right [01:33] push the right most block to top [01:34] then all others on left [01:34] then on bottom [01:34] push the block on the bottom to right [01:34] er left [01:35] ok so ive got 2 filled and 2 in the open [01:35] the push the block on your top right to bottom [01:36] its ok ? [01:36] think so [01:37] damn i'll play ksokoban for the rest of the day :/ [01:37] lol [01:37] i get stuck with 3 filled and 1 in a spot where i cant move it or else it will be unmovable === spass [~spass@p54A08913.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [01:39] lets be more scientific, the (0,0) point is the piece of wall at bottom left [01:40] k [01:41] (1,2) (3,3) (4,4) (6,7) [01:41] have you gems at these places ? [01:42] ksokoban needs a movement im/export function :/ [01:42] no.. let me coordinate [01:43] if 0,0 is the first playable game area square... i have 1,2 2,3 3,4 and 4,5 [01:44] for me (0,0) s a wall :) [01:44] with landing spots in 0,1 1,1 and 5,5 5,6 [01:45] does your actually show the coords.. ie 0,0 or are you just figuring them? mine doesnt have coords [01:46] ksokoban 0.4.2 sasquatch level 00002 [01:46] http://n.mo.free.fr/temp/soko.png [01:47] ok thats the one [01:47] have you this ? [01:48] yep [01:48] i number gems from left to right [01:48] 2 on bottom, 3 on top [01:48] 3 right, top right [01:49] 2 top, left, bottom [01:51] ok i get the numbering.. but does top bottom right left mean push it that way or be on that side? [01:51] can someone tell where are my desktop icons hidden [01:51] push [01:52] wow that made it so easy [01:52] i couldnt get them seperated for my life.. thanks! [01:52] i musta spent an hour before this lol [01:52] gahan /home/yourusername/Desktop? [01:53] thrid level is more complicate, i dont get it [01:53] no worries === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp129-171.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:56] damn i had passed so many sokoban levels before, but it was in my exams revisions, i was more motivated :) === AceMan [~me@81-178-254-118.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:59] where can i find all runing pids in kubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp129-171.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:01] ps waux [02:01] or top [02:01] ?? === AMIGrAve [~amigrave@247.125-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] hi all === candyban [~candyban@dD5773D30.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu [02:05] Hi guys [02:06] Is it possible to make konsole translucent? [02:06] (not the "transparant" copy part of the background image and paste it in the konsole back) === pbtraveller [~tobias@pD95EA19B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === edulix [~edulix@136.Red-80-59-147.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] shogouki, finished level 3... a bit tedious but more obvious at least to me... but then again i was just learning the game on level 2 === candyban [~candyban@dD5773D30.access.telenet.be] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === randabis [~randabis@cpe-67-10-186-21.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === randabis [~randabis@cpe-67-10-186-21.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === [square] [~chatzilla@d81-211-252-108.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu === [square] [~chatzilla@d81-211-252-108.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu === biquillo [~biquillo@155.Red-83-34-25.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === biquillo [~biquillo@155.Red-83-34-25.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === _tortoise [~tortoise@81-86-196-118.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:46] is there something in kde that can quickly make an html photo album ? === ubuntu [~ubuntu@130.Red-81-44-1.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:53] list === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu [] === membreya [~membreya@c211-28-78-53.sunsh3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === SpookyET [~not4_u@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #Kubuntu [03:10] Hi. [03:12] I had to reinstall xp, and grub was overwritten. I'm wondering how to make the XP boot loader to boot kubuntu. I've looked at some articles, but they all have NTBoot -> Grub -> Linux. There is no Grub anymore. Can it be made to NTBoot -> Linux? === ebirn [~ebirn@83-65-124-150.dynamic.adsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [03:16] spooky: you hve to you the grub. install it on the partition, not on the mbr [03:17] spooky: on your /boot partition that is [03:17] or at least it is more handy and working that way. [03:19] it's been overwritten [03:19] how can i recover it [03:19] you can mount/chroot into your linux and reinstall it from there [03:20] i can't boot into linux === kernelpanik [~kernelpan@adsl-197-215.37-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu === kernelpanik [~kernelpan@adsl-197-215.37-151.net24.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:21] if you don't have any livecds around, you deserve it [03:23] i got slax === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-13-219.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === kernelpanik [~kernelpan@adsl-197-215.37-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu [03:34] chi parla italiano? === kernelpanik [~kernelpan@adsl-197-215.37-151.net24.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === TechLord_Work [~TechLord-@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] anyone here === Kyaneos [~kyaneos@80-29-43-56.adsl.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:44] to do what techlord? === kernelpanik [~kernelpan@adsl-197-215.37-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu === kernelpanik [~kernelpan@adsl-197-215.37-151.net24.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:45] kaffeine won't play dvd's it just crashes [03:45] it also crashes when i try to change xine engine prarmeters === theD3viL [~matej@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:47] i also can't find a xine executable on my system [03:47] hello [03:47] can you find xine with whereis? === Kyaneos [~kyaneos@80-29-43-56.adsl.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:48] hello [03:48] hi [03:48] i have a problem [03:48] ok.... [03:48] i have installed a server-expert kubuntu [03:48] if finds 2 dir one is /usr/lib/xine the other in /usr/share/xine [03:48] and now i have installed kde [03:48] . [03:49] but i have problems with su/sudo [03:49] the usr/share/xine would be the app [03:49] what problems, not there? failing? whats up kyaneos === IronRoses [~IronRoses@81-86-150-70.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:50] hello [03:50] hi [03:50] I just tryed to update kubuntu and theres a broken package..lol [03:50] i wish it was but it's a folder that has libxine1/fonts in it [03:50] ok. so you dont have the app [03:50] Kamping_Kaiser: if i try, in kcontrol, change to administrator mode, it prompts me and when i write the root password, it says: Conversation with su failed [03:51] :| wtf techlord_work? === bad_mongo [~Jon@80.203.127.110] has joined #kubuntu [03:51] kyaneos, open konsole, and type su or sudo in there, see what happens [03:51] i installed tuxracer and supertux but they arent in menus ... wtf? games aint in menus... how can i enable it ? [03:51] well, i set a root password up, and now kubuntu thinks i have 2 root passwords and keeps changing back to username pass then back to the root pass i set [03:52] it's pretty shit [03:52] Kamping_Kaiser: if i type su it requests me a password === edulix [~edulix@136.Red-80-59-147.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:52] thed3vil, its not a standard package. === alex_kubuntu [~alex@81.56.181.124] has joined #kubuntu [03:52] you need debian menu or similar [03:52] hi everyone ! [03:52] how can i get it? [03:52] hey [03:52] Kamping_Kaiser: i type the root password and it prompts me to # [03:53] apt [03:53] does anyone know what is the package name for a KDE color selector in kubuntu ? [03:53] apt-get install debian menu or something? :S [03:53] it's apt-get install menu [03:53] kyaneos, can you past it to the screen (minus the password) [03:53] tnx === da_bon_bon [~rohandhru@203.212.221.132] has joined #kubuntu [03:53] ;) [03:53] kyaneos@nabucodonosor:~$ sudo kuser [03:53] kyaneos is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [03:53] kyaneos@nabucodonosor:~$ [03:53] wait i will try [03:53] i think its menu thed3vil [03:53] not debian menu [03:54] kamping_kaiser i don't appear to the the xine executable on my system. what package would i want to install to get that [03:54] Kamping_Kaiser: k, i will try now [03:54] try xine [03:54] Kamping_Kaiser: installing.. [03:54] Kamping_Kaiser: must i restart X ? [03:54] dont think so, but you might have to [03:54] Kamping_Kaiser: any idea?? [03:54] this kubuntu is awfull, you try ti update and it complains about broken packages, you set a root password up andthen it reverts back to user pass then back to the set root password you just made.....This is bollocks.. [03:55] Kamping_Kaiser: nothing happens just install it... i will try restart X .. brb [03:55] kyaneos, so you have any other user acounts installed? [03:55] yes [03:55] Kamping_Kaiser xine command not found [03:55] kyaneos user is added to the system [03:56] it is different that in ubuntu [03:56] kyaneos, whatever user you added first, use that for sudo, [03:56] in ubuntu root password is the same tha user password [03:56] try su yourusername [03:56] no, in ubuntu there IS NO ROOT [03:56] techlord [03:56] Kamping_Kaiser: and what password i type?? [03:56] try apt-cache search xine === pv [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has joined #kubuntu [03:56] see what that produces [03:56] the pass you made when you set you user account up in the install === theD3viL [~matej@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:57] yes. thats the sudo password. your not actualy using the root acount. [03:57] any hint for my problem ? [03:57] Kamping_Kaiser: TNX, its working... but now is smailiar fonts, its great... tnx 100000x [03:57] i am looking for the package name for kde color selector... [03:57] Kamping_Kaiser: i did it [03:58] sory no alex_kubuntu [03:58] alex_kubuntu: kcoloredit / kcolorchooser [03:58] cool hte devil [03:58] :D [03:58] has anyone tryed updating kubuntu yet? [03:58] great kyaneous. whats with it? [03:58] Kamping_Kaiser: what i do now?? [03:58] hmmmmmmmmmm......... [03:58] thanks you ! [03:58] kyaneos [03:58] so you got into your other acount? [03:59] NOW try sudo [03:59] i got in the same acount [03:59] Kamping_Kaiser: 1 more problem..... in login screen i have 1280x1024 and i wanna have 1024x786.. what to do? :S [03:59] sudo what? [03:59] thed3vil try pressing ctr+alt+"-" [03:59] sudo anything [03:59] theD3vil, i have it on that resolution now, and when i try to put it on so,mthing lower, my screen goes out of sync [04:00] stuff this, I'm going back to debian [04:00] : [04:00] kamping_kaiser that generates a long list of installed modules that reference xine. i do see libxine1 which states Xine/ Video/media playerlibrary, binary files === beezly [~andy@2001:618:400:1ad7:20c:6eff:fee1:a9da] has joined #kubuntu === beezly [~andy@2001:618:400:1ad7:20c:6eff:fee1:a9da] has left #kubuntu ["I] [04:00] but i have 60hz only if i have 1280x1024 [04:00] this is complete and utter shit, bugs and mis prints every where, plusbroken packages [04:00] have fun guys [04:00] Kamping_Kaiser: i will try... [04:00] cool [04:00] bye === whiteknight [~james@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [04:01] brb .. i must go playing tuxracer a bit :D [04:01] :) [04:01] have funn [04:01] tnx ;) [04:01] brb === oDysseas [~tsonta@thes530-a104.otenet.gr] has joined #kubuntu [04:01] techlord_work. yes it does [04:01] Kamping_Kaiser: [04:01] juts a tic techlord [04:01] ok [04:01] hi all, I know I should rtfm but I'm in a hurry so could someone please tell me how to install k3b with dvd support? [04:02] Kamping_Kaiser: i can not sudo [04:02] what are you after agian techlord... i forgot :| *embarased* to many questions [04:02] kyaneos. is this a custom install? [04:02] type [04:02] su root [04:03] not SUDO just "su" without the "do" [04:03] Kamping_Kaiser: custom?? [04:03] Kamping_Kaiser: server-expert [04:03] so not a standard install in other words? [04:03] i can do su root [04:03] ok [04:04] and i am root [04:04] Kamping_Kaiser: yes [04:04] your root? [04:04] i am kyaneos, normal user [04:04] oDysseas: sudo apt-get install k3b growisofs dvd+rw-tools [04:04] when i do su root and type de pass i am root [04:04] ok uniq_ thx [04:05] ok. get into root [04:05] back ........ :) [04:05] then type [04:05] visudo [04:05] Kamping_Kaiser: i got [04:05] uniq_, says can't find k3b package =/ [04:05] hey is it normal that /proc/cpufreq tells me that maximun cpu freq is 70% ? [04:05] Kamping_Kaiser: ok [04:05] and add the line [04:05] Kyaneos ALL=(ALL) ALL [04:05] at the bototm [04:06] it does so when I unpplug the power wire of my laptop, and keeps saying so when plug it [04:06] oDysseas: add more repositories; http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories [04:06] ok uniq_ thx again === kernelpanik [~kernelpan@adsl-197-215.37-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu [04:06] Kamping_Kaiser: i did it yet === kernelpanik [~kernelpan@adsl-197-215.37-151.net24.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:06] lol @ kernelpanik [04:06] you added yourself kyaneos? [04:07] i wrote it [04:07] edulix you don't have cpu throttling turned on in klaptop do you [04:07] and now?? [04:07] exit root [04:07] and type sudo bash [04:07] ok [04:08] enter your password, and you should be in a root environment [04:08] i have not enter my pass [04:08] TechLord_Work: yes, it's set to 00% [04:08] it prompt directly [04:09] kyaneos, go back into root (su root) [04:09] ok [04:09] then type "tail /etc/sudoers.list" === billytwowilly [~chris@S01060040f4acc23c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] root@nabucodonosor:/home/kyaneos # tail /etc/sudoers.list [04:09] tail: cannot open `/etc/sudoers.list' for reading: No such file or directory [04:09] root@nabucodonosor:/home/kyaneos # [04:09] no .list [04:09] edulix what is your preformance profile set 2 === Quinn_Storm [~quinn@67.21.72.234] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] i just checked sorry [04:09] no === [square] [~chatzilla@d81-211-252-108.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu [04:10] root@rommel:~ # tail /etc/sudoers [04:10] like that [04:10] root ALL=(ALL) ALL [04:10] kyaneos ALL=(ALL) ALL [04:10] good. [04:10] at the bottom of the file [04:10] thats what it should say [04:10] TechLord_Work: peromance is set to "performance" [04:11] TechLord_Work: I mean, policy is set to "performance" [04:11] hey, does anyone know if there is a patch in the works for / a way to fix the fact that in the themed KDM, the menu-buttons pop up menus on the wrong Xinerama screen? (my setup has screen 0 on the right and screen 1 on the left, clicking on buttons on screen 0 causes menus on screen 1) [04:11] Kamping_Kaiser: and now?? [04:11] now when it says [04:11] kyaneos@nabucodonosor:/home/kyaneos you can just put in [04:11] sudo bash [04:11] and enter YOUR password, and you are in the root acount [04:12] ok [04:12] or you can type [04:12] su root [04:12] and the ROOT password, to use the root acount athat way [04:12] when sudo requests me a password, i type my user password?? [04:12] ah [04:12] ok [04:12] ok [04:13] techlord_work. you ok? [04:13] i seem to have forgoten you [04:13] i think i have reinstall libxine1 [04:13] thank you very very very very much Kamping_Kaiser [04:13] ok. [04:13] thank you very very very very much Kamping_Kaiser [04:14] searched the whole system and no xine executable found [04:14] no worries mate ;) have fun [04:14] Kamping_Kaiser: and sorry for my english === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC07E8.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [04:14] Kamping_Kaiser: thx [04:14] thats ok kyaneos [04:14] i could understand you :) [04:14] only can't install it right now laptop has no internet i'm at work so only my desktop has internet access === _oliver [~oliver@dsl-213-023-044-073.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:15] im using ubuntu breezy, so things will be slightly different, but if you install somthing like xine-ui that should pull in xine as a dependancy. [04:15] possibly even from the cd [04:16] i'll try the cd i have that available [04:16] brb [04:16] k === candyban [~candyban@dD5773D30.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu [04:16] Hi guys [04:16] hi [04:16] Is KDE compiled with gcc 4? [04:16] no [04:16] afaik [04:16] kde4 has been out for < 3 days [04:16] as I seemed to have read that gcc 4 would speed up kde ... [04:16] *gcc4 === kernelpanik [~kernelpan@adsl-197-215.37-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu [04:17] yeah kde4 isn't out yet, it is waiting on qt4 === kernelpanik [~kernelpan@adsl-197-215.37-151.net24.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:17] Kamping_Kaiser: which fonts are u using in FF ? :) [04:17] not sure :) [04:17] look ? ;) [04:17] just a tic ;) [04:18] am? [04:18] serif, sans-serif monospace [04:19] k tnx =) [04:19] :) [04:19] how can I install Kipi plugins ? I've got libkipi0 but got no plugins in the gwenview settings [04:19] no worries === confrey [~dario@adsl-45-116.38-151.net24.it] has joined #kubuntu === candyban will wait for good things to happen :) [04:19] AMIGrAve: what is that btw, sounds like something I might want to look at...(and thus be able to help you with) [04:19] hy everybody [04:19] hey [04:20] I have installed kubuntu, and i have ugraded kdelibs-data; now I haven't the auto mount of removable devices, like was in gnome; how can I have it? [04:21] confrey. did you upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu, or use kubuntu installer? [04:22] I have installed it from ubuntu cd; then I uncommented some lines in sources.list, and the made dist-upgrade [04:22] what's kubuntu installer? [04:23] Kamping_Kaiser: are u playing games... on linux ? ;) [04:23] ah. things have been know to break doing an update from ubuntu [04:23] thed3vil. not yet, but hope to some time :) i have started playing with wine [04:23] wine... can u ?? [04:23] ;) [04:23] cedega is batter isnt it? [04:24] but... its not free i think :S [04:24] I got a few games working perfectly with Wine.. [04:24] cedega is a directX emulator, so needed for things like HL2 [04:24] aha [04:24] quake3 for example is fine under wine [04:24] what about steam .. can u play in linux? [04:24] doom 3 is also WITH A LOT OF PAIN :) [04:24] :DDDDd [04:24] steam :O a man after my own heart. need cedega [04:24] Kamping_Kaiser: do you have auto mount of cd and usb pen in kubuntu? [04:24] wine has no emulating parts whatsoever. it provides that apis natively. [04:24] i dont have it [04:25] confrey. i use ubuntu [04:25] Kamping_Kaiser: please look pvt ;) [04:26] I have seen kde 3.4, and I prefer it insetad gnome; do you think is better to install ubuntu and then to add kde envirinment? [04:27] no, go direct to kubuntu. [04:27] the upgrade fucks things up [04:28] is it ok to install kde programs after installing kubuntu? [04:28] yes [04:28] should be [04:29] thx, i thought as much but what do i know :) [04:29] I think the panels of gnome are better ... It's quite easy to add stuff to it (at least it feels more intuitive than kde) ... [04:29] agreed. kubuntu's great but uubuntu's just more 'polished' i think [04:29] candyban: the only thing I like better about gnome's panel is that you can move / access applet menus without the little "handles" [04:30] aceman. thats because lots of the gnome devs are ubuntu devs :)\ [04:30] gnome doesn't have "lots of devs". [04:31] ? [04:31] there's surprisingly little amount of devs. that's why they can't keep up the pace anymore. [04:31] ?? [04:31] ok. fair enough [04:31] Anlar: How many kde developers are there ? And how many gnome developers? [04:32] candyban: it at least so since they haven't invented anything exactly new in the last couple years.. no idea about the actual numbers. [04:32] Anlar: I thought the reason why gnome "can't keep up the pace" is that a lot of big companies want the ABI to be stable as they have increasingly higher interests in gnome [04:33] why would anyone be really interested in gnome? beats me. [04:33] ... [04:33] well [04:33] GTK2 is LGPL [04:33] once kde hits 4.0 I think its going to blow gnome away...it already has far tighter self-integration/coherence than gnome and is only going to get better [04:33] whereas QT is GPL [04:34] so commercial/non-free apps can't be made with QT === abelli [~john@stoneddaemon.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:34] ciao a autti [04:34] Choubaka: they can but you have to buy Qt under the other license from trolltech [04:34] is there any known problem with kubuntu and automounting? [04:34] amu: ciao :) [04:34] Quinn_Storm: yeah. [04:34] But why would they do that when there's GTK2? [04:34] Quinn_Storm: What's so revolutionary about QT4 ? [04:35] candyban: Cairo [04:35] QT4 will finally have input modules \\o// [04:35] choubaka: the commercial version (which you would use anyways in commercial products) is not such. [04:35] Quinn_Storm: I though Cairo was also to be integrated in gtk? [04:35] Choubaka: yeah, and there's also the standard "but gtk2 is C, qt requires C++" [04:35] Which means I will be able to seriously consider usink KDE :p [04:35] candyban: yeah, just you asked what was revolutionary :-P [04:35] Quinn_Storm: I was under the impression C++ is getting popular. === whiteknight [~james@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [04:36] usink? [04:36] Choubaka: it is, but some business types are dinosaur-ish [04:36] wtf am I, russian [04:36] using* :) [04:36] Quinn_Storm: What's the timeline for QT4 ? (and kde 4) [04:36] Anyway, GTK and QT are both good. [04:36] candyban: I'm not the person to ask, unfortunately //-.-\\ [04:37] Choubaka: yeah, though don't even try using GTK1.x (yuck), but I have done some GTK2 dev, and it was smooth [04:37] Quinn_Storm: Yeah -_- [04:37] Choubaka: I built a "dock" app for the xfce panel (was using it when I had a box w/ 32MB ram) [04:37] GTK1.2 doesn't even support UTF-8 :| [04:37] Choubaka: and by "dock" I don't mean "ugly eye-candy" but "functional taskbar/app-launcher" [04:37] Yeah. :P [04:38] I'm still using XFCE4 [04:38] qt4 will be released this summer. [04:38] I like xfce4 well enough...oh, I also built a sound-event-thing, but I think the source to both is lost to history [04:38] Which desktop manager uses most resources? KDE (3.4) or Gnome (2.10)? [04:38] candyban: that is a tough question...in my experience it was gnome but I think that depends on situation [04:39] That probably depends a lot on your configuration :P [04:39] a full blown kde takes ~15M [04:39] Anlar: ok, wtf? [04:39] candyban: gtk certainly uses less resources by itself than qt but gnome is...bloaty [04:39] nah.. kde itself is pretty light and especially the qt4 will cut it even more down.. and Arthur will definitely rock. [04:39] Anlar: no way it consumes only that much. [04:40] what's an Arthur? (I've missed something) [04:40] add the applications.. of course I am not counting them since you could run whatever taking several gigabytes.. but the barebone desktop+kicker isn't a big one [04:40] well, duh. :p [04:41] please, is there anyproblem with cd automatic mounting with kubuntu? [04:41] Anyways, XFCE4 beats both of them! [04:42] abelli. your the second person tonight to ask, but i didnt know of one [04:42] Choubaka: xfce is quite nice but it doesn't have the tight integration that kde has (or the dcop & kio subsystems that allow for it) === whiteknight [~james@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [04:42] Choubaka: wmi.modprobe.de :) [04:42] Kamping_Kaiser: tonite ? where are you? :) [04:42] australia. its 12 minutes past midnight here [04:42] in central australia [04:43] Kamping_Kaiser: ou la la .. are you going to ubuntu down under? [04:43] quite a few people are, but not more then other places afaik === whiteknight [~james@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [~shuerlima@212-41-117-22.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu [04:44] Quinn_Storm: Heh. [04:44] most ppl im in contact with are using debian of some description [04:44] abelli: cool. [04:44] abelli. where are you? === _tortoise [~tortoise@81-86-196-118.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:44] I wish my computer wasn't such a piece of crap [04:44] Choubaka: welcome to the club :) [04:44] Choubaka: how crappy is it? [04:44] Kamping_Kaiser: Italia === _tortoise [~tortoise@81-86-196-118.dsl.pipex.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:45] :) === whiteknight [~james@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [04:45] Quinn_Storm: crashes often [04:45] dying hardware... [04:45] its 4:47 here ... [04:45] 4 pm .. obviously [04:45] heh. yeh. [04:45] funny [04:45] I'd toy with renderaccel, composite and cairo otherwise. === Quinn_Storm has a 1.2ghz athlon (pre-"+" numbering system), 512MB ram, matrox g450...and a server box thats a p166/32mb ram (gonna try to upgrade that, anyone got a source for cheap 72-pin 2k-refresh simms?) [04:45] sure its not 4 45? [04:45] no [04:46] but enabling those will kill my comp. [04:46] abelli: sounds like you need to use an ntp server :-P [04:46] everythings relative even time .. maybe there's some time-hole between you and me. [04:46] porqua? [04:46] Quinn_Storm: why? [04:46] ntp. keeps your clock on time [04:46] abelli: just being silly b/c you were two minutes off from those of us who use ntp [04:46] yours is wrong ;) [04:46] Quinn_Storm: I hace 1.2 Duron, 512MB ram, and nvidia gf 4 mx [04:46] Quinn_Storm: ntpdate is always wrong .. [04:47] Choubaka: that's not too bad [04:47] abelli. depends which servers your with [04:47] Quinn_Storm: please http://www.marzocca.net/linux/ubm.html and deactive that service :) [04:47] candyban: well, no [04:47] but it's utter crap [04:47] and it's dying [04:47] Choubaka: at least your graphics card is better than mine...with those specs you shouldn't be crashy...get the nvidia modules and stuff, make sure you have latest nvidia drivers [04:47] unreliable, noisy and ... [04:47] Choubaka: Using P4 2.4 / 512 MB /GF 4200 here [04:48] Quinn_Storm: I have the latest drivers. [04:48] Choubaka: I have it for 1.5 years now [04:48] Choubaka: the binary drivers? [04:48] huh .. i need a little help, could you please list all the audio servers you know? === huerlisi [~shuerlima@212-41-117-22.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu === AMIGrAve [~amigrave@247.125-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:48] yeah [04:48] lol. im in candybans leage [04:48] and for server, a 500MHz P3 with 128MB ram and some S3 graphix [04:48] :D [04:48] Choubaka: strange, b/c that box should be plenty stable...are you sure its cooled well enough? (set up lm-sensors & check) [04:48] Choubaka: P2 400 (firewall) [04:48] That comp is _way_ more reliable than this one [04:49] Correction ... I have mine 2.5 years now [04:49] ok i'm at a total loss i removed xine , rebooted and reinstalled xine still not found === whiteknight [~james@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [04:49] Quinn_Storm: But it ain't [04:49] I think some part of the hardware is borken. === sorin [~sorin@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:50] Choubaka: hw .. yummie .. what's your problem? [04:50] Choubaka: well, check cooling...do a memtest86...any idea -what- causes the crashes? (disk i/o, graphics stuff, etc.?) [04:51] Quinn_Storm: graphics === _P_ [~princoscr@host-84-220-129-165.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu [04:52] imagemagick programs often segfault :) [04:52] but no others. [04:52] gimp too [04:52] Choubaka: well then it could be buggy drivers or perhaps an insufficiently cooled nforce...though I'd guess drivers...try swapping vid-cards to see if it crashes w/ a different video board (like the one out of your server) [04:52] Choubaka: err, nvidia not nforce -.- [04:53] choubaka put a pedestal fan pointing at the card, if it stops crashing its heat [04:53] Quinn_Storm: I don't have another video card ;P [04:53] Choubaka: well then...I guess you're out of luck...you can't swap the server card in? (or is that on-board?) [04:54] on-board [04:54] Choubaka: that sucks [04:54] so, hmm [04:54] how do I use these sensors? [04:54] how do i tell grub to load the menu instead of the command line? [04:54] Choubaka: well, what you need to do is swap the card if you can get ahold of one to see if it really is the video card, or something more bizarre [04:54] Choubaka: oh, unfortunately there probably isn't a temp sensor on your video card...but look around for an lm-sensors howto [04:55] Choubaka: the lm-sensors modules are built-in to the 2.6 series kernels so you shouldn't have any trouble setting them up [04:55] sorin? pardon? [04:55] I set them up already. === _buz [~buz@217-162-134-214.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [04:55] what program do I run to see temps? :p [04:55] Kamping_Kaiser: ? [04:56] Choubaka: ksensors [04:56] sorin. i dont understand your problem [04:56] Choubaka: or just sensors form a console [04:56] oh. :/ [04:56] they're not showing temps :< [04:56] grub displays the grub prompt instead of the menu [04:56] Choubaka: yeah you didn't get them all set up yet [04:56] xine binaries are not being installed anyone ever see that before? [04:57] Choubaka: it took me a little work on my via KT7A-Raid board [04:57] I did modprobe all what sensors-detect told me [04:57] Choubaka: there's a bug w/ my board about the order / which modules you have to install...what's your board? [04:57] techlord_work. not on my ubuntu [04:57] it has a VIA KT133 chipset afaik [04:57] Choubaka: yep same chipset, hang on while I fetch my info [04:57] sorin, do you have a /boot/grub/menu.lst file? [04:58] yes. i can load it with the configfile command [04:58] Choubaka: rmmod all that stuff / reboot & then just modprobe i2c-isa and via686a (but not the via pci thingy) [04:58] how do i make it load it by default [04:59] is there a xine-lib package for ubuntu kubuntu === incubii [~incubii@cor9-ppp2379.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [04:59] not sure sorin sory [05:00] TechLord_Work: yeah, just not sure where it comes from, check in universe/multiverse [05:00] sweet im installing windows 2000 server sp4 on a qemu virtual machine running on PPC arch [05:00] :D [05:00] incubii: yeah and you'll be done sometime tomorrow :-P [05:00] lol [05:00] cool [05:00] ok [05:00] techlord. i have it, just not sure about where it either [05:00] :P [05:00] whether i am or not its still cool [05:01] Choubaka: if it still doesn't work, google around for via and lm-sensors...I forget where I found the info...and you may need reboots, not sure, I set it up a while ago and did a "set it and forget it" [05:01] it worked. [05:01] Choubaka: cool [05:01] I wonder if it's properly calibrated though [05:01] SYS Temp: +47.2C [05:01] CPU Temp: +36.6C [05:02] Choubaka: it got the sys & cpu backwards it looks like [05:02] but there's this weirdness: [05:02] SBr Temp: +25.2C (high = -0C, hyst = -55C) ALARM [05:02] techlord_work. do you have extened sources, or just teh cd? [05:02] Choubaka: that's the southbridge temp [05:02] thanks i'll have to work on this later then [05:02] Choubaka: I -think- [05:02] just the cd [05:02] yeah [05:02] :( not a lot then [05:02] Choubaka: mine has the same 3 sensors but didn't get cpu/sys backwards [05:02] also +2.5V: +0.24 V (min = +2.36 V, max = +2.61 V) ALARM [05:02] Choubaka: that's a mistake in the config, mine's like that too [05:03] Choubaka: the via686a is apparently a goofy chip === izut [~izut@201.11.239.75] has joined #kubuntu [05:03] so doesn't look like it's overheating. [05:03] the cpu at leasy. [05:04] Choubaka: yeah, at least the system isn't, the video might be, but I doubt it, its probably bad drivers / slightly incompatible / something like that...like I said, try swapping video boards, or perhaps going to nvidia's website & getting drivers from there instead of the ones w/ your distro [05:04] Quinn_Storm: they're the same drivers. [05:04] Choubaka: same version? are you certain? [05:04] yes [05:04] I'm using the open source nv drivers now though [05:04] they're more stable [05:04] Choubaka: ok, well stick with those for now then, maybe nv will get it fixed [05:05] but no 3d :( [05:05] yeah [05:05] Choubaka: but it sounds like its not your hardware at fault [05:06] hmm [05:06] hopefully [05:06] Choubaka: yeah, at the worst its the graphics card [05:06] I can probably get another for ~20 euros :D [05:07] :( [05:07] Choubaka: yeah, once I get some cash I think I'll pick up an nvidia card for this box (I want my renderaccel / etc. damnit!) but I need it to be a dualhead one, I've gotten quite used to that with my matrox card...and of course I need that ram for that server [05:08] all new ati and nvidia cards are dual head [05:08] Don't get ATI for a linux box though [05:08] Kamping_Kaiser: ok, is the nvidia dual-head well supported? (with like merged-fb style support so I can have dri on both heads)? [05:08] Choubaka: yeah I already know that from reading a bit about it [05:09] <_buz> how about the ati chipsets? [05:09] quinn_storm sorry dont know [05:09] dont use it [05:09] <_buz> i mean with nvidia vga cards === mmuzzy [~mmuzzy@ip24-250-44-152.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:09] <_buz> stupid nforce4 all got fans on the northbrige [05:09] <_buz> i don't buy such crap [05:10] I don't know about ati chipsets [05:10] I guess they're fine. === _buz is on the quest for a SILENT box [05:10] <_buz> preferably with one fan. or even fanless [05:10] mmm. [05:10] _buz: even my ancient via kt133 chipset KT7A-Raid has a fan on the northbridge...or is that the southbridge?...ah whatever, it has a tiny fan...silly old chipset [05:10] there is one. its about 800AUS$ [05:11] north bridge [05:12] <_buz> well theres a gigabyte one [05:12] <_buz> but the nforce gets so hot you cant touch it [05:12] <_buz> and tehre's that freaking zalman case [05:12] <_buz> no i want to do it with "affordable" components ;) [05:12] yeh. i think thats the one [05:12] <_buz> not a challenge otherwise [05:12] lol [05:13] <_buz> http://www.scythe.co.jp/en/cooler/ncu2005.htm [05:14] <_buz> agreed, not entirely standard [05:14] <_buz> but it works === spiral [~spiral@84.5.161.217] has joined #kubuntu [05:16] hmm still waiting for drivers.cab to copy [05:16] :)) [05:16] heh [05:17] I would never want to use a board that needed such a heatsink! ouch! [05:18] is that for the processor at least? if thats for the northbridge I'm staying far far away from that chipset [05:18] ok, ok, nevermind, I read further [05:18] now its just a silly cpu accessory [05:18] if I wanted fanless cooling for my cpu I'd go w/ water-cooling === TechLord_Work [~TechLord-@rchp4.rochester.ibm.com] has left #kubuntu [] [05:21] there's nothing wrong with fans. just don't buy crappy noisy ones. [05:21] global fop win 38! [05:21] no there was a noise maker you could be proud of === [square] [~chatzilla@d81-211-252-108.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu [05:22] now kids this is the way to go http://www.skenegroup.net/fi/artikkelit/thermalright_xp120.3 :) [05:22] it's Silent. [05:24] that thermaltake god dissed in a review i saw [05:25] it was bs. [05:25] *got [05:25] it got about 2/10 [05:25] or similar [05:26] there's nothing to diss about it. it's very efficient, extremely silent, reliable and easy to attach/detach. [05:26] *shrug* thats what i saw. [05:27] its also ginormous [05:27] perhaps the reviewer was just a retard. [05:27] it's not heavy actually btw. it's very light. === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC1EBA.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [05:28] Anlar: I would imagine that, heavy would be bad b/c it would be extra metal the heat would have to propagate through, numerous light thin vanes make a better radiator than a few thick ones [05:28] that's what the heat pipes are for. [05:29] Anlar: yeah, the heat pipes act like an enclosed 'water'-cooling system that then is radiated by those enormous vanes [05:29] they are 'pumped' by the heat itself [05:31] 2.8G P4 with 100% usage for hours and that heatsink feels unpleasantly cold when you touch it, even close to the cpu. it doesn't even get warm. === Quinn_Storm is now known as Quinn_Away [05:31] 0_o not bad [05:31] cpu heat sensor shows things like 35C :) [05:32] and it might be quite near to the reality too.. [05:32] :) nice [05:32] Anlar: so the cooler is very loud? [05:32] extremely silent. you can't hear it at all practically. [05:32] <20dB [05:32] hmm [05:33] very very big heatsink? [05:33] kail: look at the link, http://www.skenegroup.net/fi/artikkelit/thermalright_xp120.3 [05:34] uhm, ok === seraph1 [~ecrespo@201.243.248.163] has joined #kubuntu [05:35] even as THAT one on a Athlon 64 3000+ would even passive let the CPU <30 === pjw [~pjw@c43-154.icpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === seraph1 [~ecrespo@201.243.248.163] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:38] night all === Kamping_Kaiser [~kaiser@ppp129-171.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:39] hmm, the tested CPU isn't a WInchester === IronRoses [~IronRoses@81-86-150-70.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:39] back again [05:40] it's all working fine now, reinstalledm just did base install and then install kde, it downloaded the updated packages then instaled fine [05:40] Iv'ew had noproblems yet === incubii [~incubii@cor9-ppp2379.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === abelli [~john@972a49f70f22e72e.node.tor] has joined #kubuntu === gahan [gahan@coyote.fsh.hu] has left #kubuntu [] === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-23-82.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === Kyaneos [~kyaneos@80-29-41-214.adsl.nuria.telefonica-data.net] has joined #kubuntu === gdh [~gdh@80-192-144-33.cable.ubr06.wi.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === affronter [~ms@host81-158-29-240.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === skaman [~skaman@host198-6.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === buz_ [~buz@217-162-134-214.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu [06:05] how can i start kde without restoring previous session === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-8-80.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === sikor_sxe [mkulke@dsl-084-056-136-019.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:12] is there a firefox 1.0.3 ubuntu package yet? or do miss a repository? [06:13] there isnt [06:13] not yet :( [06:14] :O === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu [06:14] sikor_sxe, most (all?) security relevant fixes are in ubuntu's 1.02 firefox. heard that from the devels. [06:15] no [06:15] the most evil one (executing files) is there [06:15] in 1.0.2-0ubuntu5? [06:15] i did a test [06:16] http://www.mikx.de/firelinking/ [06:18] yes, works :( [06:21] hmm, debian has1.0.3 for i386 and ppc [06:21] hmm, is there no debian/amd64? [06:21] there is [06:21] but generally it lags behind [06:22] yeah [06:22] that does everything on debian [06:22] installing the debian one, right now === gahan [gahan@coyote.fsh.hu] has joined #kubuntu [06:23] http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/mozilla-firefox [06:23] why can't i bind windowskey alone to show up kmenu? [06:23] it has ia64 [06:23] every bidn needs at least 2 buttons, why? [06:23] s/bidn/bind/ [06:26] hello -- off topic, but could anyone recommend a good non-wysiwyg word-processor (not text editor) I could run in konsole, or a terminal session? [06:26] TeX ? :) [06:27] gdh -- I was afraid you'd say that -- ;-) [06:27] damn, the debian firefox packages won't work :/ [06:27] smouche: It's a healthy fear to have =) [06:27] guess I should learn TeX -- but it's overkill for me - I don't need a whole desktop publishing thing, just somethng [06:28] very basic, but with some formatting capacity [06:28] I'll keep googling, thanks! [06:28] From the reports from friends I hear about it, TeX can be as light or as heavy as you want.. [06:28] just has anunfortunate learning curve at the start [06:28] lol [06:29] that was gonna be my next comment, gdh [06:29] I'm glad I have no need to prepare documents :) [06:29] 'stuff.txt' is the extent I need. [06:29] basically, I'd like something that is to basic word processing what, say elinks is to web browsing === AceMan [~me@81-178-254-118.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [06:32] run wordperfect for DOS? :) [06:32] gdh -- that would work -- I may even have some old floppies around for that... exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for [06:33] hah cool :) [06:33] hmmm, good lead, thanks! === xavier_ [~xavier@lns-vlq-45-tou-82-252-168-248.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:33] lo all === mikl [~mikkel@82.192.168.151] has joined #kubuntu [06:45] hello vietnam [06:49] fa [06:49] sorry [06:51] so? [06:51] er, me? [06:51] doh! [06:56] is there something like prime95 or cpuburn for linux? [06:58] buz_, yes, cpuburn [06:58] i must be blind [06:58] I think it's in ubuntu (at least it's in debian) [06:58] ahh i mistyped the name [07:00] and now i need something to get the temps in my machine? [07:02] it depends [07:02] try acpi [07:02] modprobe thermal [07:02] or you'll have to use lm_sensors [07:03] but it'll need to compile modules and other funny stuff :p === licio [~licio@BHE048181.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === _marco [~marco@host226-185.pool8532.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [07:04] buz_, is it a laptop or a desktop ? === _marco [~marco@host226-185.pool8532.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === brenton [~brenton@ip68-110-139-182.nc.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === licio [~licio@licio.user] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === markc [~markc@220.245.107.188] has joined #kubuntu [07:07] shuttle xpc -> desktop [07:07] lapdance, please [07:07] err you said laptop, not lapdance.. nevermind [07:07] i'll try ksensors [07:09] buz_, you'll need lm_sensors for it, but I don't know if ubuntu ships it compiled [07:09] ask synaptic :p [07:09] it does [07:09] its in the reps [07:10] good === eggy [~eggy@eggy.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu === motaboy [~motaboy@host175-3.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === dvoid_ [~dvoid@c-215fe155.2010-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [07:16] yeah it works [07:17] i had to run sensors-detect and load a few modules (didnt want to reboot) but now it works [07:17] niiice === bubi [~bubi@BSN-77-231-196.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:18] Choubaka: i need u :P [07:19] ok? [07:19] hi [07:19] u still have online that repo [07:19] ? [07:19] Yes. [07:19] ive had to reinstall [07:19] so i need link again :) [07:21] oh [07:21] deb http://choubaka.no-ip.com/~jarkko/ ./ [07:21] cool thanks [07:22] i couldnt get rid of that kdetv [07:22] no matter what i did it started with next session again [07:22] so finally i reinstalled :( === pointwood [~pointwood@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu [07:34] <_P_> hi all [07:34] <_P_> some had some problem with a asus q-fan system of a barebone and ubuntu kubuntu? [07:34] <_P_> *someone === Bubi [~Bubi@BSN-77-231-196.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:37] what Kind of Problems? [07:38] normally q-fan is OS independant.. === _affronter [~ms@host81-158-29-240.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:38] <_P_> kail yes [07:38] <_P_> but with debian it works [07:38] <_P_> with kubuntu not :( [07:38] what means "doesn't work"? [07:38] did you check your cpu load? [07:39] <_P_> the terminator stay quite loud for 15 minutes [07:39] <_P_> and after start to the max speed for 10 minutes [07:39] <_P_> yes buz [07:39] hmm [07:39] <_P_> q-fan normally change [07:39] http://www.sasserlone.de/222-musikkuenstler-der-extraklasse.html [07:39] very impressive [07:39] <_P_> speed every minute === JaZy84 [~cgjazinsk@cpe-70-117-198-26.rgv.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:40] install lm-sensors and the run 'sensors-detect' to configure the hardware sensors [07:40] then we can see, if the temperatures stay to high... [07:40] can someone help me with an apt-get upgrade problem [07:40] i'm getting this error [07:40] Preparing to replace kdelibs-data 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (using .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb) ... [07:40] Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ... [07:40] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--unpack): [07:40] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf [07:40] Errors were encountered while processing: [07:40] /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb [07:40] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [07:41] dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb [07:41] ...known bug ;) [07:41] awesome [07:41] thanks === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-16-253.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [07:42] something I don't really understand, as the names file is a folder, which normally gets silently overwritten === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu [07:42] odd [07:43] kde runs vnc slower then compared to gnome is there a reason for that? [07:43] not really [07:43] hrm. [07:44] maybe because of the system how vnc compresses the data - kde has more refreshes [07:44] i'd use nomachine.com stuff over vnc anyday [07:44] ah. nice. [07:44] muuuuuch faster [07:44] nomachine.com [07:44] and theres gpl implementation now [07:44] i'll check that out. [07:44] free? [07:44] theirs is commercial [07:44] but knoppix guis have a gpl edition of it [07:44] somewhere [07:44] so there ought to be debs somewhere [07:46] nice thanks Bubi [07:46] buz_ [07:47] what === [square] [~chatzilla@d81-211-252-108.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu [07:50] thanks.. === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu [07:53] does kynaptic use the same repos as apt-get ??? === AceMan [~me@81-178-254-118.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu === AceMan [~me@81-178-254-118.dsl.pipex.com] has left #kubuntu [] [07:54] Bubi: yes === AceMan [~me@81-178-254-118.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:54] from same file ?? [07:54] kynaptic is just a frontend for apt [07:54] ahh cool [07:54] tnx === ztonzy [~ztonzy@ztonzy.artist.blender] has joined #kubuntu === Vorik [~Vorik@apeldoorn.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu === Blissex [~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu [08:03] ++ all === xavier_ [~xavier@lns-vlq-45-tou-82-252-168-248.adsl.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === chavo [~chavo@28.sub-70-212-7.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:09] how can i change default font size in firefox now is 9 pixels and its to small === _affronter [~ms@host81-158-29-240.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:09] i cant find it in prefferences === bofh_ [~bofh@fwwfi.wforce.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [08:12] edit _> prefserences [08:12] general -> "fonts & colors" [08:12] :) [08:13] KaiL: it doesnt work [08:13] it's the font for the display [08:13] or do you mean the GUI-fontsize? [08:14] yeh [08:14] for that I recommend to install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt [08:15] then you have an entry ""GTK styles and fonts" in the KDE Controlcenter [08:16] ...from there you can set your gtk apps to look as the kde ones :) [08:16] ahh ok [08:20] KaiL: is that one single package ?? [08:20] yes [08:20] i cant find it in kynaptic [08:21] lots of GTK-engines [08:21] and Qt3 [08:21] but not that one u said [08:21] so you don't have "universe" enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list [08:21] ahh === Bubi goes to uncomment [08:24] hmm still not there [08:25] shows me only 2 packages new [08:26] apt-get update... [08:26] i did it in kynaptic [08:27] should i do it in console [08:27] duno, or look again into sources.list, if you missed something ;) === cdickman [~cdickman@pD95095FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:29] ehh stupid me [08:30] i uncommented only security [08:33] :) === PenguinBoy [~thepengui@24.159.145.55] has joined #kubuntu [08:35] hey guys === affronter_ [~ms@host81-158-29-240.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu [08:36] ah, cool - sudo works now on my updated debian ;) [08:36] great! [08:36] is there a problem with sudo in kubuntu? [08:36] nop [08:36] well yes [08:36] it's being used [08:37] I've updated my system from debian to kubuntu [08:37] I have Ubuntu on my desktop and am getting ready to install kubuntu on my laptop [08:37] sudo didn't just work, now it does ;) [08:37] thats weird [08:37] why [08:38] mhh i thought it was deeply igrained in kubuntu's ways of doing things [08:38] the last difference is, that hotplug and acpid are more silent (and faster) on kubuntu than here [08:38] first thing i did was activating the root account ;) [08:38] yesterday installed kubutu two times - two times acpi S3 works [08:39] only here it doesn't :( [08:39] bad luck or something different between debian and ubuntu in that way? [08:40] mhh i found i couldn't downgrade from breezy to hoary either [08:40] maybe fresh installs are easier, after all [08:40] well, you can downgrade in some very very complicate way ;) [08:41] but you don't want to do that - and why? anything broken in breezy, i didn't find? [08:41] is there known problems about getting wireless to wotk in Kubuntu? [08:41] aye, mad sed/awk magic to dpkg -l ... download all older packages, then dpkg --force-all -i wit xargs :) [08:41] gdh: nop [08:41] apt-get install package/hoary is enough [08:42] Really? interesting. :) [08:42] only a "bit" difficult to find out, which ones got updated [08:42] I think I just like brute force methods [08:42] that's the way I used to hunt out all sarge here [08:43] PenguinBoy: a rather old ndiswrapper, if you mean that :) [08:43] too old for my Linksys card [08:44] I have an IBM Thinkpad R40....with a wireless.... [08:44] I have not had success with Linux and wireless in the past [08:45] wireless support is usuall terribly clumsy for dists to support due to firmware issues :( [08:46] do you think I would stand a better chance with Ubuntu or Kubuntu recognizing and workign with my wireless????? [08:46] If one works, so will the other [08:46] great [08:47] Kubuntu *IS* Ubuntu, just with KDE packages on the install CD instead of GNOME ones. [08:47] thnaks === Markrian [~Markrian@82-68-11-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [08:47] If you want to send me your notebook I can get it working for you :) [08:47] lol [08:47] lol [08:47] lol [08:48] ;) [08:48] okay I am rebooting to begin the install [08:49] Cool - you can ignore the question about the giant lemur if you get asked. [08:49] lol [08:49] i like the Kubuntu logo === _affronter [~ms@host81-158-29-240.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === _affronter_ [~ms@host81-158-29-240.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === _affronter_ is now known as affronter === affronter [~ms@host81-158-29-240.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === fejaor [~fejaor@65-125-117-244.dia.cust.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu === Li-Venom [~nexu@212.129.242.123] has left #kubuntu [] === chavo [~chavo@28.sub-70-212-7.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:01] I can't adjust the resolution of my screen....kubuntu is not allowing me to do so, and the only option I have is 640x480 and is kind of annoying that the windows are so big [09:02] anyone who can help me with this? [09:02] and i have another problem with my LS120 floppy drive [09:03] it sems i cant get to work [09:03] fejaor: most likely your monitor-section at your xorg.conf needs the modelines [09:03] how do I do that? === spektr [~spektr@M917P004.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu [09:04] Trouble on install......just installed from CD and is rebooting.....got this message.....GRUB Loading stage 1.5......GRUB loading, please wait.....Error 18 [09:05] help please [09:05] cause everytime I tried to open a window is just to big and can't see or reach the Accept, Cancel buttons [09:06] PenguinBoy: did you try to install on a partition more than 8GB from the start of the hard disk? === _jorge [~jorge@201.249.54.190] has joined #kubuntu [09:07] I have a 235 GB HDD.....Windows XP in 25 GB and an emplty 10 GB for Linux [09:07] 35 [09:08] hmm.. http://www.mepis.org/node/3257 === toffy [~bjorn@80.203.83.189] has joined #kubuntu [09:08] Anlar?? [09:09] I can't adjust the resolution of my screen....kubuntu is not allowing me to do so, and the only option I have is 640x480 and is kind of annoying that the windows are so big [09:09] PenguinBoy: in fact just google for 'grub error 18' [09:09] anyone who can help me with this? [09:09] I can't adjust the resolution of my screen....kubuntu is not allowing me to do so, and the only option I have is 640x480 and is kind of annoying that the windows are so big [09:10] you were already told how to fix it so stop repeating yourself. [09:12] fejaor: try just putting the resolution you want into the relevant part of /etc/X11/xorg.conf [09:12] kubuntu won' listen to me when I say I don't want a warning every time I send data unencrypted [09:12] well konqueror [09:12] in the 'Screen" Section in the 'Depth 24' Display subsection [09:15] gdh: unfortunately his resolution is just fine. he just spammed me with his whole xorg.conf [09:15] he is missing the vertrefresh/scan settings from monitor subsection === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [09:16] Anlar: Must be a really shitty old monitor for DDC probe to have failed :) [09:17] gdh: it fails for many really High end new ones as well. [09:17] Where can I find a kubuntu starter guide?? [09:17] Heh, I generally use 'average' hardware so have never noticed a problem :) === sproingie [~chuck@64-121-15-14.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:17] you've just been lucky. [09:17] fejaor: What type of graphics card do you have? === regeya [~shane@dialup-4.159.107.183.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:18] I also gave him couple quite generic readings so if he can't get it working, ... pfft [09:18] I have a GLAD845 Intel motherboard [09:18] I know there are problems with the 'savage' driver and DDC [09:18] fejaor, www.ubuntuguide.org [09:18] but yeh sounds like getting messy with modelines as you originalyl suggested :) [09:19] can anyone help me with my LS-120 drive === regeya weighs in on converting his wife over to xp, ubuntu, kubuntu, or something else [09:20] bubi: I think there is a howto somewhere. === redduck666 [~warty@213.143.87.135] has joined #kubuntu [09:20] well it worked fine under FC3 [09:20] I think she'd get along just fine with kubuntu, but I'm feeling a bit apprehensive about that...hm. [09:20] converting someone _to_ xp? whats she using, win95? [09:20] but that's ubunt and I have tried that guide in kubuntu but is not working [09:21] 98SE [09:21] sproingie, it's not the newest pc [09:21] here in kubuntu ls-120 isnt recognised [09:21] i guess xp could sort of be called an improvement [09:21] may as well make the jump tho [09:21] neither of us use latest-greatest...she's a music teacher, I work at a newspaper, you can probably imagine the economic realities of this marriage [09:21] bubi: it's an ordinary floppy drive to the kernel. so just insert the kernel module and it is at /dev/fd0 [09:22] Anlar: to u is as simple as that :) [09:22] to me its another story [09:22] regeya: i can imagine. well, if its for web and email, anything with ff will do nicely [09:23] er firefox that is. should learn to not abbrev. :) [09:23] true [09:23] bubi: well, [09:24] she's a firefox user now; shouldn't be a big leap [09:24] yah. tho ff is mighty pokey on older machines running linux === KaiL [KaiL@pD95D5908.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:24] bubi: put into your /etc/fstab the following line: /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat defaults,user 0 0 [09:24] bubi: and mkdir /mnt/floppy ,naturally. [09:24] ok [09:25] bubi: then your konqueror -> Go -> Storage media should have the drive. perhaps. [09:25] I don't know for sure, haven't had a floppy drive for the last 6 years. [09:29] heh Anlar; I finally talked people out of using floppy disks for important data at the office. I show no sympathy when someone takes a photo, slaps it on a floppy disk, sticks it on their car dash or something, then panic because the disk is corrupt [09:29] though they want to sell banner ads now and send reps out with proofs on floppy; lame === regeya goes to make a sammich === pv [~pv@jt11-57-1.tky.hut.fi] has left #kubuntu [] [09:30] go hand out usb thumb drives [09:30] 'course that'd involve the office paying for 'em [09:33] Anlar: thanks that worked === alioio [aliumalik@ar10371.pc.nus.edu.sg] has joined #kubuntu [09:36] bubu: lol [09:37] :D now i have fully workable Kubuntu [09:38] it took me 3 days and 5 or 6 reinstalls but its ok now === Bubi is happy kubuntu user >>>>>>>>>> go tel the world :D [09:40] now you know exactly how the install works? ;) [09:40] hehe [09:40] well i knewed before from other distros [09:40] only gentoo i didnt managed to install [09:40] somehow it didnt recognised my SATA disks [09:40] "only" 2 successfull + 3 with broken IDE (so fail very early) yesterday.... [09:41] (on 2 PCs that is) [09:41] bubi: most likely it did but you didn't just know what to do. [09:41] hehe it hung up at boot after compile [09:42] so i tried two more times [09:42] yes, you failed. [09:42] i know [09:42] i just didnt know where [09:42] then i installed FC3 === hal9k1x [~hal9k1x@Dc6bf.d.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:43] Fc3 is actually a quite good one. Shame that it uses gnome [09:43] yeh [09:43] that is the reason i went on kubuntu now [09:44] but after 6 months im still beginner at linux [09:44] hi === sorin [~sorin@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:45] Anlar .. but fedora works slowly than kubuntu ;) [09:46] on my box shure..... ;)=) [09:46] and apt rox ;) === pbtraveller [~tobias@p50813D78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === _guMuTpoB [~lz1gjd@node-51-225.jambolnet.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:53] I wanna add some debian repositories? are those it ? [09:53] deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free [09:53] deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free [09:54] .. on your own head be it... [09:54] <_guMuTpoB> i know my issue thats not have much to do with kubuntu itself, but after I installed it, i have no options to boot into my other OS , how can I add it ? === abinadid [~abinadid@conr-adsl-209-169-96-208.consolidated.net] has joined #kubuntu === abinadid [~abinadid@conr-adsl-209-169-96-208.consolidated.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === licio [~licio@BHE048181.res-com.wayinternet.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === theD3viL- [~geek@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu === licio [~licio@licio.user] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === theD3viL [~geek@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu === theD3viL [~geek@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:03] what is your other os and on what hard disk it is? (/dev/hd* or something) === John_M [~johnm@cpe-24-167-93-101.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === _jeff [~jeff@adsl-155-19-228.tys.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:08] <_jeff> L [10:08] <_jeff> Help [10:08] :) [10:08] <_jeff> Newbie on the floor [10:09] <_jeff> Just install Kubuntu and can't get out ot 640X480 mode :( [10:10] jeff: ok, I can walk you through with private messages. [10:14] hello, any ideas to get more than 60Hz on my moni? [10:14] i don't know where to configure it [10:14] 2. what ist the name for the menu-config-program? [10:15] i cannot find it in the menu? [10:15] right click and edit the menu? [10:15] Aaarglglgl! :-)) [10:16] My first time with kde-3.4.0 === shogouki [~nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-50-135.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === whiskers [~nobody@ppp-68-89-184-102.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:25] well this kubuntu seems quite nice....kvirc shows 2591 channels on just this server [10:25] hal9k1x, is it cool, ha? ;) [10:26] i did not even have to change gdm to kdm...the gdm gave a kde option once i got the kde stuff installed [10:27] so now i can log into a gnome session or a kde session [10:28] but the kde menus are still overwhelming and need some type of single column scroll feature [10:30] from where do you get the wmvdmod.dll [10:30] windows media codecs for kaffeine [10:31] sorin: read the wiki about restricted file formats for instructions === pbtraveller [~tobias@pD95EAE20.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:31] sorin, apt-get install w32codecs [10:32] the package does not exist [10:32] apt-cache search divx [10:33] do you have extra repozitez? === _ecrespo [~ecrespo@201.243.248.163] has joined #kubuntu [10:34] as I said, read the wiki. [10:34] ok..it looks like the sample invoice template is printing with kspread [10:34] yes it printed very nice [10:35] lets see how well the browser prints === chavo [~chavo@28.sub-70-212-7.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:39] yes ok...konq...printed ubuntulinux.org in perfect color...very nice [10:39] well if the preview is OK, the rest is down to cups, etc. :) [10:39] the only problem is kexi is still crashing...and rekall will not compile due to where ubuntu chose to place qt3 [10:39] qt3-mt [10:40] so...without kexi,rekall on kde and without glom on gnome.....the database stuff is still lacking [10:42] you just don't know how to. [10:42] Anlar: well it beats the hell out of me...but none of that stuff seems to work at all === [square] [~chatzilla@d81-211-252-108.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu [10:43] Anlar: maybe later it will [10:43] yes, after you have learnt more skills === _jeff [~jeff@adsl-155-19-228.tys.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:44] whiskers: you might also try konversation, or if you like a gaim-ish interface, kontact === ecrespo_ [~ecrespo@201.243.248.163] has joined #kubuntu === sproingie wishes they would kut out that naming skeme tho [10:45] sKype is there as well :) [10:46] really wish i hadn't cheaped out with the ATI card [10:46] i thought linux 3d support might be just "not as good". never thought it'd be nonexistent [10:46] what card? === andrewski [~andrewski@pool-70-110-173-246.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:47] Anlar: well for one thing...that scons approach just can't find the qtlibs to compile....they seem to have been put in /usr/share/qt3/lib [10:47] radeon 9800 pro ez. nice card on windows, only cost me $120 [10:47] Anlar: but scons just can't find them [10:47] whiskers: yes, tell then it to ./configure, dummy [10:47] Anlar: so i have not been able to compile recall [10:47] sproingie: that's a Sweet card with Linux as well, I have had that [10:47] Anlar: no, it's a *crummy* card on Linux [10:47] Anlar: you can't use ./configure becuase the cvs tree of rekall does not give out a Makfile [10:47] sweet? ati linux drivers suck donkey ass [10:48] whiskers: actually you can generate the makefile yourself. :) [10:48] sproingie: I have had that 9800 Pro (atlantis) with Linux and DAMN it was faster than on Windows and really really sweet. [10:48] Anlar: there is basically no 3d support. at all. the gl drivers merely crash instantly [10:48] Anlar: ok...i would be interested in trying that...i tried..make -f Makefile.cvs qt3....but nothing happened [10:48] didn't for me :] [10:48] and still no composite support [10:48] my next card will be nvidia thats for sure [10:48] composite is still a gimmick at this stage [10:49] Anlar: and kexi did compile but crashes everywhere [10:49] its slow even if its well supported [10:49] Anlar: so i just don't see a database solution yet [10:49] composity is barely alpha stage stuff at this point, don't waste your time [10:49] i pretty much reboot to windows to use blender [10:49] whiskers: well, you just don't know your compiler tools.. :) [10:49] and forget about games === theD3viL [~geek@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:49] sproingie: I have used _a lot_ Blender on Linux and it has been just AWESOME [10:50] and yes, specifically with 9800 pro. :) [10:50] Anlar: it's quite awesome on windows too. especially with working hw-accellerated gl [10:50] and opengl did work awesome. [10:50] maybe it's a amd64 thing. maybe they don't test to see that they actually work [10:50] I played some games on Linux and they were really faster than on Windows.. the Windows games. :) [10:50] Anlar: well i tried putting in the latest m4, autoconf, automake, and running aclocal...but nothing helps with rekall...i just don't know how to create a Makefile...and they don't supply one [10:51] whiskers: :) [10:51] Anlar: what'd you have to do to make 3d work? [10:51] hell, even opengl screensavers manage to not just crash, they take X with it [10:52] I just used the installer with their instructions. The trick with opengl was to make the library point to a correct one. The installer isn't a good one with that. [10:53] Anlar witch games did you play ? === sproingie has UT2004, not sure if that has a linux ver or is it still at UT2003? [10:53] My favorite was Natural Selection, naturally. :) and I did lots of AAO. they were the most hardware intensive games I played. [10:54] hm [10:54] not sure i want to install all six cd's worth on the linux side too tho [10:54] i have UT .. but when i wanna install it it said to me an erorr ... "-lp" [10:56] Anlar: maybe if i could get the php module working with apace2...i might could try DBMaster [10:56] Anlar: but the php module is not working with apache2 on ubunut [10:56] lol [10:57] yes it is. [10:57] Anlar: on ubuntu [10:57] Anlar: no it is not [10:57] Anlar: unless there is a patch [10:57] yes it is. [10:57] Anlar: no it says in the logs there is some kind of permissions problem [10:57] nah. you just suck again. :) [10:57] Anlar: and i just can't figure that out for anything [10:58] what is the error you get? [10:58] Anlar: because it has the same permissions as the ssl module [10:58] Anlar: well in the phplog...it says ...well let me go read again [11:00] Anlar: now i can't get into /var/log/php4-apd and the hidden directory www-data [11:03] Anlar: konsole will not let me cd into that directory [11:03] good. you don't deserve it. so.. kexi would be a nice program eh? I will compile it now just for the fun. ;) === mindframe [mindframe@ip24-254-49-107.br.br.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:04] Anlar: yes kexi does compile but it crashes when you try to create a database on postgres just like glom [11:04] ooh, I will install postgres too. [11:04] let's see.. :) [11:04] Anlar: i don't know what the hell the problem is...that linux just has no database solution yet [11:04] no. the problem just is that you suck. [11:05] Anlar: well maybe so...but i try [11:06] let's see.. now umm the kexi. === hussam [~hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu [11:07] doesn't openoffice have an access-ish thing? [11:07] yes and it really rocks. [11:07] but I will install Kexi now :) [11:08] I know I can manually do export blahblah=/location/to/dir manually. How can I make this env variable systam wide avialable [11:08] Anlar: Perhaps you could do something useful like create a kexi package for Ubuntu instead of just inflating your ego in this channel? [11:09] I can create packages yes, adn will.. I am at this moment too tired to do quality packages though. Perhaps at the summer I will do many. === Soyburg [~Soyburg@p54B145BA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:09] Do a shit one and pretend you're Red Hat :) === markc2 [~markc@220.245.107.188] has joined #kubuntu [11:10] do one that deletes /usr and pretend you're Gentoo [11:11] I've been using gentoo for over a year and not packet ever was destructive on my system. and Iwas running ~ arch [11:11] Anlar: and on top of this...i can't even get the precompiled database stuff working on win98 either === pd_cerezilla [~pd_cerezi@pD9587558.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:12] Anlar: i tried the xiopen web server with the windows php module and DBMaster template....and postgresql for windows and that shit doesn't work either === pd_cerezilla [~pd_cerezi@pD9587558.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu [] [11:12] Anlar: i just don't know what the hell the problem is that there is no free database solution [11:13] whiskers: All the cool kids are too busy wasting time implementing useless shit like transparent window managers, 3D desktops and similar shit. [11:13] whiskers: there is. [11:14] Anlar: well rekall doesn't give out a Makefile...scons doesn't work worth a shit....php is broken on windows and linux for dbmaster....and kexi and glom won't create a new database on postgresql [11:15] Anlar: so you know...maybe later [11:15] whiskers: the fact that your system is broken and you are a skilless whining little shit doesn't mean that they do not exist. [11:15] :) === darkaudi1 [~bpack@pool-151-205-45-125.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:16] Anlar: Out of interest, what are you drinking tonight? [11:16] nothing. [11:16] Wow cool :) [11:16] I'm used to compiling kde manually from cvs and stuff.. I have compiled Kexi numerous times already, including the depedencies. While on Gentoo and I wanted the _really_ bleeding edge. there was no problems whatsoever around. [11:17] not ego boosting but (k)ubuntu is doing their best and no one really forces you to select it if you can't handle it. [11:17] True, a binary distro will always be a little behind. [11:17] esp. if that distro is now 'frozen' [11:18] especially one with ties to Debian that has made the last stable release at 2000 or 2001. [11:18] July 2002 :) [11:18] but yes, $longtime ago [11:18] Anlar: well whatever....i just tried to install the shit ubuntu made....so don't knock me about the system....i had nothing to do with it [11:18] it's that fresh? whoa! [11:18] Anlar: all i am telling you is that nothing works [11:19] whiskers: actually if you did add more repositories there would be ready binary packages for the software as well. [11:19] and they do work at least here. [11:19] Anlar: and neither does it work on windows [11:19] so they can't be globally broken and suck. [11:19] from that we can draw some conclusions.. [11:19] Anlar: well you draw what you want...but just try scons for yourself [11:21] actually I think I am going to install that Openoffice 2.0 beta. it has nice fiel format support and all the tools I need. Including the nice database application. better that than trying to compile Kexi. I am trying to compile Gentoo actually atm [11:22] it's fast to install from the rpms.. a few seconds at most. [11:26] Anlar: well i have to say that i did at least have php working on gentoo....and perhaps could have used DBMASTER.php [11:26] Anlar: but well i am trying to work with ubuntu [11:26] mmmm scons [11:26] and butter and tea :) [11:27] i wish more things used scons [11:27] i was amazed when i used it. same file, with like a couple lines having to do with compiler flags, compiled program and static and shared libs on linux and win32 [11:28] none of this godawful autotools and libtool nonsense [11:28] which dont even work on windows anyway === elric [~kavit@ppp114-10.static.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:29] oo 1.9.76 from debian is pretty buggy [11:29] the win version is much more stable [11:29] now if anyone got more current debs... [11:29] shout! [11:29] no wait that was even in universe i think [11:30] hi I have a USB network card with the atmel chipset that kubuntu didnt detect, can anyone please help me fix this? === Markrian [~Markrian@82-68-11-182.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:31] elric: wireless LAN or wired? [11:31] Anlar: now what i really cannot understand is that psql works on postgresql and pgadmin3 works...but glom and kexi just don't yet. [11:31] Anlar: and without php working on apache....we can't test DBMaster.php [11:31] gdh: wireless [11:31] Anlar: and without a makefile...we can't compile rekall [11:32] whiskers: you can't, that is. [11:32] i have used it with linux previously, SuSe picked it up after i downloaded the firmware from their packages, kubuntu doesnt seem to have it in the packages [11:32] elric: I probably have the same one. tried installing linux-restricted-modules package? [11:33] gdh apit-get install linux-restricted-modules package at the command line? [11:33] elric: append whatver arch you're using -686, -k7 etc. [11:34] so that it matches your running kernel (check with uname -r) [11:34] ok gdh thanks, i shall give it a whirl === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.186.181] has joined #kubuntu [11:37] ok another issue, how would I add a repository to apt-get? all it does now is check the repository from the CDROM === mindframe [mindframe@ip24-254-49-107.br.br.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:39] ok got it, i need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list [11:39] edit /etc/apt/sources.list [11:39] heh [11:39] but what repository do i put in there? [11:39] anyone knows where in xchat set up time... ? [11:39] anyone knows where in xchat set up time... ? becouse i dont have dispay it. === Blissex [~Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu [11:40] Uh it's there, you're not looking hard enough [11:40] 'timestamp logs' or similar [11:40] aha .. tnx [11:40] hm === theD3viL [~geek@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:41] i am impressed with kubuntu, very fast on this mediocre box. === Bubi [~Bubi@BSN-77-231-196.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:42] ok gdh, apt-get said i have the restricted modules installed already [11:42] I can't really understand how one distro can be'slow' and another 'fast' ... [11:43] elric: Ah well - was only a guess - I don't use the card on my Kubuntu machine :) [11:43] ah ok [11:44] but it is normal kubuntu need 480 RAM? [11:44] theD3viL: i am running it on 192 mb of ram [11:44] and its fine. [11:44] Anlar: and don't blame this shit on me...i did not have anything to do with it...this was ubuntus idea and they did the work [11:44] Anlar: but uh....i am just saying that the database stuff doesn't work yet [11:44] elric, i have 512 mb ram but it seems to need it all! [11:44] whiskers: they did the work on the core set. the rest was added as-is, for the adventorous users. you added those repositories. [11:45] theD3viL: Linux will use as much RAM as there is available for caching / disk buffers, etc. [11:45] gdh, what about swap? [11:46] there should be little swap in use if you have 512MB of RAM etc. [11:46] it of course depends on what apps you're running [11:46] 3mb swap is in use, but what swap is it? [11:47] that's normal, nothing to worry about [11:47] is swap some kind of ram? [11:47] it'll be stuff that isn't used very often, you can be sure of that :) [11:48] it is almost as fast as my FreeBSD installation with kde 3.4 but I think i will keep kubuntu going if I can get this wireless card working [11:48] gdh can u send me screenshot of your desktop to see how other people have desktop? [11:49] theD3viL: Uh? It's plain green with a Trash icon. not worth taking a snap of [11:49] =)) [11:49] superkaramba or stuff ? [11:49] I have no idea what that means. [11:50] wait i will send you snap of my desktop, you will se what superkaramba is. === hondje [~hondje@c-67-174-186-96.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:50] How long until that kdelibs thing is going stop borking apt? [11:51] gdh, recive the file.... [11:53] gosh, DCC. how quaint [11:53] haven't done this in years. [11:53] try again, I don't sit at the screen permanently === hondje [~hondje@c-67-174-186-96.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:55] how did you send file other ? [11:56] ah yes as I expected, utterly needless =) [11:56] ? [11:57] eye candy, fluff, nonsense, pointless :) [11:57] Do I /need/ to know what kernel version I'm using or how much RAM is in my own PC all the time? Of course not. [11:58] hm [11:58] what about... i dont know ... [11:59] :) [11:59] If I was a real minimalist I wouldn't be using KDE, but some stuff is just blatantly excessive. [11:59] hm, what about you? what programs do you runing now? [12:00] you said you have only trash on your desktop, why ? you must always go to start, programs, blablabla [12:00] :) [12:00] Anlar: now when i look at http://127.0.0.1...the apache web page comes up but the phpsystem test fails [12:01] that's nice. :)