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jcolewhat do i add to sources.list to get tomcat12:16
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Diablo-D3hrm12:34
Diablo-D3hey guys12:34
Diablo-D3stupid question12:35
Diablo-D3does ubuntu-desktop include any method of automount by default?12:35
|QuaD-Diablo-D3: #ubuntu12:35
=== Diablo-D3 is asking from a developers standpoint.
tortoiseDiablo-D3: using project utopia12:37
calclibpam-mount seems to be the way for network fs12:37
=== calc is going to be using that at work
Diablo-D3I'm thinking along the lines of usb mass storage automounting btw12:37
Diablo-D3I've been talking to random users, and it doesnt seem that ubuntu has anything like this at all12:38
Diablo-D3atleast, not by default12:38
mdz-sydonly since about August of last year12:39
mdz-sydi.e., before the first release12:39
calcDiablo-D3: it usually works automatically12:39
calcit does seem to have some buginess about whether it pops up the nautilus window though12:40
Diablo-D3so, with a freshly installed and upgraded ubuntu desktop, I should be able to plug in a usb mass storage device and it should be automatically mounted /w sync, and a gnome file manager window should pop up?12:40
calcDiablo-D3: yes, barring the bugs i've seen12:40
Diablo-D3w00t.12:40
calci haven't fresh installed my box in about 4mo so it may have some upgrade related issues12:41
Diablo-D3another stupid question...12:42
Diablo-D3is matthew thomas's recent blog entry being taken seriously?12:42
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calccool i didn't know you could do a -bb+b type line12:46
danielsyou can put any mode changes together12:48
danielsi could've done -o as well12:48
calcah12:50
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dholbachhey01:15
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jammcq_ozmdz-syd: hey, you awake ?01:16
jammcq_ozogra: are you here?  whiprish and I are going for breakfast, if anyone wants to come01:18
jammcq_ozok, see ya'll later01:19
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travail101let me ask again... it's been a few hours....01:38
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travail101is linux-wlan-ng on the latest LiveCD? did it get done in time? or was it left out...? am I going to have to wait another 6 months to see it on there?01:39
dholbac1re01:39
travail101re?01:45
dholbac1travail101: flew out some minutes before01:47
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jbaileyYou talkin' to me? =)02:59
ograhi jbailey, nice ip :)02:59
tfheenjbailey: moo!02:59
jbaileyNow that I'm standing on the bottom of the world, do I have to worry about the blood rushing to my head?02:59
jbaileyHeya Tollef!03:00
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danielsjbailey: yo03:00
jbaileyMr. Daniel!03:00
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thomjbailey: good morning sir03:00
dholbachhey jbailey 03:01
jbaileySo far on this trip I've discovered that the Honalulu airport is really boring, and that oranges are really expensive in Sydney.03:01
jbaileyHeya Thom, Mr. Holbach.03:01
Evasohi guys also hoary is affected by this bugs: http://bugs.debian.org/305846 ?03:01
Evasoanybody is in gnome team?03:04
jbaileyEvaso: We're running a different version of Gnome than Debian is, so there's no way of even guessing whether the same bugs will occur.03:05
Evasojbailey: i tink that this affect also 2.1003:06
jbaileyIf you are able to reproduce the problem, your best bet is to check in bugzilla, and if you don't find it then file the bug.03:07
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Evasojbailey: thanks but i want only to try to backport a solution if it was solved in ubuntu without to find my way and rebuild the whell03:08
jbaileyOoo!!  The Sipsons.03:11
ograyeah03:12
EvasoOk i duplicate the bug, one for Debian and one for Ubuntu fork also if the problem is the same03:13
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zulhey03:21
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ograhey mdz-syd 03:26
ogra:)03:26
mdz-sydogra: hello03:27
ogramdz-syd, already in the hotel ? or are you guys crowding jdubs home ?03:28
ograoh, btw, how do i get a priority assigned to my BO ?03:28
ograF03:28
Burgundaviathat was an interesting slip03:32
fabbionehey guys03:40
zulhey fabbione how is it going?03:41
jbaileyFabio!03:41
fabbionei just woke up.. gotta leave for the airport pretty soon03:41
zulheh have a fun flight03:42
zuldont go psycho03:43
ografabbione, have a nice smoke in singapore ;)03:43
tfheenfabbione: have a nice trip03:43
ografabbione, the smoking place is very nice03:43
fabbioneehhe ok :)03:45
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jbaileyDoes anyone else smell burning toast?03:48
zuluh..not really03:49
fabbionecya sunday evening03:50
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ografabbione, looking forward to it :)03:50
ogradont fall off the sky03:50
ograjbailey, yup03:50
jbaileyogra: Oh good.03:50
jbaileyogra: It's the second time today I've smelled it, the first was in the airport, turned out to be a deli.03:51
jbaileyBut I'd be sad if I had a stroke. =)03:51
ograi guess its really coming out o the kitchen....03:51
jbaileyThere's a kitchen here?03:51
jbaileyCool.03:52
ograyeah, on the way to the sunny courtyard03:52
jbaileySounds like I should explore more.03:52
jbaileyMaybe after the Simpsons are done. =)03:52
ogralooks like they will run all day on this station03:53
jbaileyIs that so wrong?03:54
ograno, but it will take its time until they're done :)03:55
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tfheenblogs are fun ; I've gotten two responses to my e-d-s crack already04:56
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jbaileyHeya Scott.04:57
Keybukheyhey04:59
Keybukoh dear, I appear to have agreed to do a lightning talk05:00
jbaileyWhere do you see that?05:01
tfheenKeybuk: on what?05:02
Keybuks3kr1t05:03
zulhey Keybuk 05:11
travail101anyone in here that knows about what's on the LiveCD?05:25
travail101like for instance...05:26
travail101did the Linux-wlan-ng driver make it on the latest?05:26
travail101or will I need to wait till then next release to see them?05:26
travail101or... is there just a site you can poinnt me t with a list of all packages on the 5.04 Hoary LiveCD05:27
travail101?05:27
zulif you do dpkg -l on a terminal in the live cd it should give you a pretty good list of whats installed05:29
zulnight05:32
travail101but.,..05:40
travail101I want to know before I download the LiveCD05:40
travail101as if it doesn't have it05:40
travail101I don't need it05:40
travail101and I definitely don't want to waste a CD even if I do download it, just to find out it doesn't have it05:40
jbaileyUse a rewritable. =)05:41
Lathiatboot it in qemu :)05:42
=== Amaranth wonders if you could mount the ISO and chroot into it
travail101ok... I need it because My HD crashed05:44
travail101I have no other linux machine handy05:44
travail101and I'm on a laptop in Spain05:44
travail101limited options05:44
travail101but i finally found out in #ubuntu that it didn't make it in the final05:45
travail101I know oneof the guys in here a while back was workin on it, but...05:45
travail101I guess it wasn't ready in time05:45
travail101thanx for the thoughts anyway though05:45
travail101I'll use the Gentoo RR4 LiveCD instead... maybe the next Ubuntu will have it :-D05:46
Lathiatpff, just get better hardware05:47
travail101Money is something a lot of linux users don't have readily available05:48
travail101and I really didn't have anybody telling me "hey don't get that crappy Hitachi Deathstar-travel, it's gonna get bad sectors and eat away at the drive till it dies in just 9 months from purchasing it"05:49
travail101being in a foreign counrty doesn't help with rectifying the problem either05:49
travail101anyway05:49
travail101the Prism2 wireless chipset is good hardware on the other hand05:49
travail101and fully supported under linux (for what I use it for anyway)05:50
Lathiattravail101: i was mostly joking :)05:50
travail101I know...05:50
travail101but i thought i would clarify05:50
Lathiat:)05:50
travail101anyway, I'm going to reboot into this RR4 livecd and ditch Knoppix with it's non-firefoxness and general outdatedness05:51
travail101bbl, if nothing goes wrong05:51
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Lathiattseng: ping06:18
whip|udumdz: are you here in sydney?06:35
jdubhey whip|udu 06:37
whip|uduhey jdub!06:39
=== tfheen got a nice and crackful idea.
tfheenwe store environment variables in gconf and preload something to load them from there.06:41
tfheenso you can have per-process, per-session, per-user and per-system settings.06:41
tfheentotally crack, but it should work.06:41
tfheenjdub: moo?06:41
jncstore anything else in gconf and i will let loose a herd of rabid monkeys on your measuring equipment06:46
jncthis includes all forms of rulers be they metric or imperical units06:46
tfheenuhm, why?06:46
jncexceptions will NOT be made for anything covered in butter substitutes.06:47
jncwhy?06:47
jncwhy you ask06:47
jncbecause i can. that is why06:47
jncit should work, after all.   06:47
tfheenyes, and gconf works fairly well06:47
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=== tfheen builds his tdb e-d-s addressbook backend
jdubtfheen: tdb or ldb?07:51
tfheentdb07:56
tfheenldb is the ldap thing07:56
tfheentdb is the backend which ldb usually uses.07:56
tfheenand ldb isn't packaged, it seems07:57
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ningohttp://members.home.nl/saen/Special/zoeken.html08:01
Treenaks*mutes sound*08:02
Burgundavianingo, that is not on topic here, please go away08:02
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ningoBurgundavia, actually Xchat /amsg is network spanning08:03
Burgundavianingo, lovely, that is still spam08:03
ningoindeed08:04
jdubtfheen: yeah, ldb might be a better choice08:04
ningoso be warnend, when i try to sell you laptops :p08:04
jdubtfheen: bug jon oxer about packaging for it :)08:04
tfheenjdub: I guess so, yeah.08:05
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tfheenjdub: even tdb will be a lot more comfortable than db, though08:09
jdubyeah ;)08:12
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lamont_rhello jdub08:47
lamont_rback in a few08:48
infinitylamont_r : Can you respin builds of imagemagick now that libtiffxx0 is in main?08:56
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cartmananyone knows whats up with squid on breezy?09:00
cartmandist-upgrade tries to remove it09:00
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colombushello09:48
colombusressource busy or not avaible for totem?09:50
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colombushello09:52
colombusressource busy or not avaible for totem?09:52
colombusressource busy or not avaible for totem what does it mean?09:53
colombuswhat woul it be?09:55
colombuswhat is this problem?09:55
colombusdo someone read me?09:56
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orangehawhi, i managed to install dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.12-1-686-smp_2.6.11.90-1_i386.deb along with initrd-tools_0.1.78ubuntu1_all and when rebooting everything is fine. Only thing is that i can't get nvidia driver working. I have the linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.11.90.orig.tar.gz and unpacked it. Then: /sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7167-pkg1.run --kernel-source-path=/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12-2.6.11.90/10:01
colombushi10:02
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jbailey_Hey - this channel really does seem to play nothing but Simpsons. =)10:16
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tfheenhi jeff10:16
jbaileyHeya Tollef.10:16
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dholbachhey11:12
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abellitrulux: ding11:22
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zygahello12:03
sladenhi zyga 12:05
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tfheenhi ogra03:59
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ograhey tollef04:00
ograalready in te hotel ?04:00
tfheenno, still in Canberra04:00
tfheencoming to Sydney tomorrow afternoon04:00
ograah, ok...04:01
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cartmanhmm I missed jbailey04:08
ogracartman, he just fell asleep04:10
cartmanogra: you are in in .au too for UDU?04:10
cartmanbtw whoever supposed to make gcc-4.0 transtion should read lkml . there is some miscomplation report for kernel04:11
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ogracartman, the kernel wont be compiled with 4.004:12
cartmanah how come gcc points to gcc-4.0 here04:13
cartmanthats breezy04:13
cartmanhmm I should go back to gcc-3.4 for that too maybe it will fix my MCE problems04:14
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ogracartman, everything except the kernel will be 4.0 in breezy04:14
cartmanyep thats _cool_ 04:14
cartmanwould be cooler if gcc didn't miscompile rather important things04:15
cartmankernel,khtml,etc04:15
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tfheenscary shit.04:36
tfheenmy tdb backend seems to work04:37
Robot101\o/04:37
tfheenthis means we can have an e-d-s backend that DOESN'T SUCK!04:37
tfheen:)04:37
tfheenyay me, yay tdb04:37
Lathiattfheen: for what?04:38
tfheenfor evolution-data-server04:38
Lathiatoh04:38
Lathiatright04:38
Lathiatim doing an ldb backend to gconf04:38
Lathiat(which uses tdb)04:38
tfheenyay, cool.04:38
Lathiatand can also connect to a real ldap server then04:38
Lathiatso we kill 2 birds with one stone04:39
tfheenI know, I saw tridge demonstrate that yesterday04:39
Lathiatto quote a man 'ROCK ON!'04:39
tfheenare the devel libs for ldb packaged now?04:39
Lathiattfheen: you at burgmann?04:39
tfheenyeah04:39
tfheenyou too?04:39
Lathiattfheen: nope but i was talking with tridge about doing that today?04:39
Lathiattfheen: yeh im down at the bar04:39
Lathiattfheen: come say hI!04:39
tfheenwhere's the bar?04:39
tfheen:)04:39
Lathiatbottom floor04:39
Lathiatnear the vending machine out to the back04:39
tfheenoh, ok.04:39
tfheenI'll come down04:39
Lathiatcan hear the blues brothers on04:39
tfheenjust have to check where the heck my tdb database is saved. :P04:40
Lathiatsweet.04:40
Lathiathaha04:40
tfheenit's there, but I can't find the files. :)04:40
robertjhas there been any discussion on automounting ntfs drives as ro04:44
tfheenLathiat: I'm coming down now, I guess you'll see me, white shirt.04:46
Lathiatok04:47
tfheenLathiat: I have no idea what you look like, so. :)04:47
Lathiatim with a dell laptop04:47
Lathiatred shirt04:47
Lathiatand not the guy with the white shirt04:48
Lathiat:)04:48
tfheenoh, that many people down there?04:48
Lathiatjust me and cef04:48
tfheenok, cool04:48
Lathiatthe rest buggered off to bed or something04:49
Lathiatthere was like 8 of us and some random chicks at some point, theyve all gone now04:49
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Amaranth"Elmo on helium is one of the funniest things known to man."06:41
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\shhmmm..06:56
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stuNNedwhat is the default dhcp client in ubuntu?  dhcp3-client?08:53
cartmanstuNNed: yes08:53
stuNNedcartman: can you see this: http://uclinux.info/lance/ubuntu/bugs/dhcp-client_ubuntu ?09:05
stuNNedor do you get an 404 or something?09:06
cartmannope can see09:06
stuNNedok thanks09:06
stuNNedI can't cc: whoever I want at bugzilla?09:18
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Burgundaviawho do you want to cc?09:23
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stuNNedcasey@tulane.edu09:25
stuNNedis it possible?09:27
stuNNedBurgundavia: that is odd that i can't cc: the admin of the dhcp server at my uni i'm having problems with no?09:31
BurgundaviaI think you can only cc yourself for good reason09:32
stuNNedi thought cc was open, oh well, okay, so he'll have to create an account to comment right?09:32
Burgundaviayes09:33
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stuNNedok thanks09:33
tfheenLathiat: yay, I got it working.  You'll never guess what the problem was. :P09:33
stuNNedentered as #10090, thanks cartman and Burgundavia 09:34
stuNNedhmmm on my laptop i can select cd burn speed in nautilus but on desktop can't09:49
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nanophasehi10:28
nanophaseanyone here who works on the acpi-support package?10:42
Treenakswhat do you want to know about it10:43
nanophasefiled a bug today, and if that someone would need me to test, it's faster on irc. in addition I would have an idea as a notebook user.10:46
nanophasethings that are easier on irc..10:46
stuNNedcan you guys include galeon in main? 10:51
stuNNedseeing that is it very gnome-centric and a powerhouse of a browser imho10:53
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BurgundaviaI thought gnome is shipping epip by default now10:54
stuNNedyes but imho epip has way locked down preferences as dictated by what proper UI should be10:55
Burgundaviagaleon is already in universe, what advantage do you gain by having it in main?10:56
crimsunstuNNed: galeon was replaced by epiphany some time ago11:01
crimsund'oh, Burgundavia already said as much11:01
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stuNNedepip is too simple and the whole idea of extensions is just cr*p imho11:03
BurgundaviastuNNed, did you see my question?11:04
stuNNedBurgundavia: imho galeon should replace epip as gnome's default browser, the gain would be galeon would be default for users who want a gnome browser over something like epip11:05
Burgundaviaok, convince the gnome devs of that11:05
Burgundaviaubuntu is not the place for such a discussion11:05
Burgundaviathe browser is available, in universe11:06
stuNNedok thanks :)11:06
Burgundavianp11:06
stuNNedthanks for including it in universe all the same :)11:07
\shok..python is nice..pyqt is also nice...replacing knyaptic with pynaptiq ;)11:09
zygahello11:19
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