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| \sh | morgen ogra | 12:53 |
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| ogra | morning | 12:53 |
| === ogra yawns | ||
| === \sh too | ||
| \sh | time to go to bed | 12:53 |
| \sh | after a nice coding session between me and python/qt3 | 12:53 |
| \sh | and hacking python-apt_pkg | 12:54 |
| === \sh writes Pynapiqt | ||
| herve | hi ogra ! | 12:56 |
| ogra | hey herve | 12:59 |
| herve | how's Australia? | 12:59 |
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| whip|udu | hey ogra are you here? | 01:03 |
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| \sh | G'night all....have fun down under :) | 01:04 |
| ogra_ | herve, nice | 01:05 |
| herve | \sh, night! | 01:05 |
| ogra_ | herve, but crappy network :) | 01:05 |
| herve | I can see :-) | 01:06 |
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| dholbach | hey | 01:15 |
| herve | hi Daniel! | 01:15 |
| dholbach | hey herve | 01:16 |
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| dholbac1 | re | 01:39 |
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| herve | night all! | 02:25 |
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| === Amaranth curses repeatedly | ||
| Amaranth | no matter what i do, with more than one package, i never get a diff.gz | 02:51 |
| thom | Amaranth: you're just ending up with a tar.gz and a .dsc? | 02:54 |
| Amaranth | and a changes file | 02:55 |
| thom | yeah, you've not got an orig.tar.gz, so you're building native packages rather than upstream ones | 02:55 |
| crimsun | if you intentionally built it without an .orig.tar.gz in .., you'll create a debian-native package | 02:55 |
| Amaranth | I have an orig.tar.gz | 02:56 |
| Amaranth | dh_make made that | 02:56 |
| thom | and what version number are you using? | 02:57 |
| Amaranth | I run dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot from ~/bittorrent-4.0.1/ and end up with bittorrent_4.0.1.orig.tar.gz, bittorrent_4.0.1ubuntu1_all.deb, bittorrent_4.0.1ubuntu1.dsc, bittorrent_4.0.1ubuntu1_i386.changes, and bittorrent_4.0.1ubuntu1.tar.gz in ~ | 02:57 |
| thom | you've got a native version number | 02:58 |
| Amaranth | ? | 02:58 |
| thom | you need 4.0.1-1 | 02:58 |
| thom | in your debian/changelog | 02:58 |
| Amaranth | *groan* | 02:58 |
| thom | the -1 being the debian version | 02:58 |
| Amaranth | 4.0.1-1ubuntu1? | 02:59 |
| thom | yeah | 02:59 |
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| crimsun | except I don't think debian has v4, so you'd have to make it 4.0.1-0ubuntu1 | 03:00 |
| Amaranth | dpkg-source: unrepresentable changes to source | 03:02 |
| Amaranth | *headdesk* | 03:02 |
| Amaranth | yay, finally | 03:06 |
| Amaranth | now to watch lintian puke all over me | 03:07 |
| Amaranth | or not | 03:08 |
| fabbione | hey guys | 03:40 |
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| nmorse | aby members of the XFCE team in here? | 05:43 |
| nmorse | any* | 05:44 |
| nmorse | Nevermind, I see one now | 05:44 |
| nmorse | Crimsun, are there any more themes for XFCE available at all? | 05:45 |
| nmorse | The ones I used on Debian Unstable and on Gentoo just aren't there | 05:45 |
| crimsun | nmorse: which one(s)? | 05:46 |
| nmorse | Aguelemon, Agua, stuff like that | 05:46 |
| nmorse | It occurs to me now in a moment of clarity they may be GTK themes from another WM | 05:47 |
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| crimsun | hmm, afaik there're there | 05:48 |
| crimsun | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=xfwm4-themes&version=hoary&arch=all | 05:49 |
| crimsun | they're there, rather | 05:49 |
| nmorse | why don't they show up in the Settings > User Interface > Themes menu? | 05:50 |
| crimsun | they don't? | 05:51 |
| crimsun | I'm not in front of my Xfce install | 05:52 |
| nmorse | Just those preface by xfce- and those that came with GNOME | 05:52 |
| crimsun | file a bug in malone for it, the package is xfwm4-themes | 05:53 |
| crimsun | I'll look when I get home in a few hours | 05:53 |
| nmorse | the files are all listed in /usr/share/themes though | 05:53 |
| nmorse | I'll file the bug then | 05:53 |
| crimsun | is this on a fresh install of Hoary? | 05:54 |
| crimsun | or were you using os-works sources before? | 05:54 |
| nmorse | Fresh install of Hoary | 05:54 |
| nmorse | so file the bug in the Ubuntu Universe section? | 05:55 |
| crimsun | yep | 05:55 |
| crimsun | when I need more info (I will), I'll simply reply with the request | 05:55 |
| crimsun | gotta get back to work now | 05:55 |
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| nmorse | crimsun, I think I figured out the problem | 06:17 |
| nmorse | The menu only shows themes in the gtk-2.0 style with gtkrc files | 06:18 |
| nmorse | the ones done with xfwm4 directories and themerc files don't show up | 06:18 |
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| colombus | bonjour | 09:05 |
| colombus | hello world | 09:06 |
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| dholbach | hey | 11:12 |
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| siretart | hi folks | 11:30 |
| \sh | moins dholbach | 11:36 |
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| ajmitch_ | evening all | 12:23 |
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| \sh | hey ajmitch, now at udu? :) | 01:15 |
| ajmitch_ | in sydney | 01:17 |
| ajmitch_ | at a friend's place | 01:17 |
| ajmitch_ | will turn up at the hotel tomorrow :) | 01:18 |
| \sh | :) | 01:35 |
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| herve | hi! | 03:48 |
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| \sh | http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/11-Pynaptiq-A-Kynaptic-Replacement.html | 04:05 |
| \sh | played a bit more with pyqt and python-apt | 04:06 |
| ogra | \sh, wow, show that to riddell next wwek | 04:07 |
| herve | hey ogra! | 04:07 |
| ogra | hey herve... | 04:07 |
| \sh | ogra: :) it's far from complete :) only an hour of work..there is no documentation for python-apt so i had to hack it | 04:10 |
| ogra | \sh, which version did you use ? | 04:10 |
| \sh | ogra: the versions on hoary :) | 04:11 |
| \sh | but i used a different eric3 version ;) | 04:11 |
| \sh | the one in hoary doesn't work | 04:11 |
| ogra | \sh, you cant install anything with this version | 04:11 |
| ogra | \sh, the whole commit/update interface is still missing....says mvo | 04:11 |
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| \sh | ogra: what about 0.6.x? | 04:13 |
| ogra | \sh, look at update managers source | 04:13 |
| ogra | \sh, there is a unstable tree (arch) with the start of commit/update/progress interface | 04:14 |
| \sh | well... | 04:14 |
| \sh | this is chaos | 04:14 |
| \sh | http://packages.debian.org/experimental/python/python-apt | 04:14 |
| \sh | this is on experimental | 04:14 |
| \sh | unstable is 0.5.4.x | 04:14 |
| ogra | \sh, totally outdated.... mvo will give me the arch url next week, i'll post it to you then... | 04:15 |
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| \sh | txh | 04:16 |
| \sh | thx | 04:16 |
| ogra | \sh, or mail michael.vogt@ubuntu.com | 04:16 |
| ogra | :) | 04:16 |
| \sh | but i don#t think that those functions are outdated in the next version which I used right now ;) | 04:16 |
| ogra | \sh, he likes the idea of someone working on it | 04:16 |
| \sh | ogra: he is standing next to you? ;) | 04:16 |
| ogra | \sh, lets do that lkater, its terrible late here and i only have some minutes left to talk to susus.... | 04:17 |
| \sh | sure :) have fun and a good night...have to go and wash my clothes in troisdorf | 04:17 |
| susus | talk to me please ... | 04:17 |
| susus | ;o)) | 04:17 |
| \sh | ;) | 04:27 |
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| \sh | hmm | 07:43 |
| \sh | the universe packages, do they have all in the Section: universe/<group>? | 07:43 |
| herve | this is overridden in the pool | 07:47 |
| \sh | but from control file view, it should have it | 07:48 |
| herve | I never heard about it | 07:49 |
| \sh | well all universe packages have Section: universe/<package group> in the control | 07:51 |
| \sh | anyway.. | 07:51 |
| herve | this is the effect of the override, isn't it? | 07:51 |
| \sh | no | 07:52 |
| \sh | oh yes | 07:52 |
| \sh | sorry | 07:52 |
| herve | :-) | 07:52 |
| \sh | and how can I determin a "meta package" | 07:53 |
| herve | there is an official list in debian | 07:54 |
| \sh | so there's no flag or something | 07:55 |
| herve | what do you want to do? | 07:56 |
| \sh | I'm playing with python-apt ;) | 07:56 |
| \sh | and I have to determine what are "normal" packages and "meta" packages, which are providing only deps and nothing else | 07:56 |
| \sh | http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/11-Pynaptiq-A-Kynaptic-Replacement.html | 07:56 |
| herve | ha ok | 07:57 |
| herve | I don't know of a flag | 07:57 |
| herve | but such packages only have files in /usr/share/doc/<package> ? | 07:58 |
| herve | but quite hard to check on 10.000+ packages :-) | 07:58 |
| \sh | no | 07:59 |
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| zul | oi its quiet | 08:05 |
| herve | I may have found the cause of my locale issues with dia... | 08:16 |
| \sh | what was it? | 08:16 |
| herve | dia writing the PS file with some locale-aware printf function | 08:17 |
| \sh | uh | 08:18 |
| \sh | how can u get a workaround? | 08:20 |
| herve | one of the authors have commited his fixes | 08:21 |
| herve | I'm making dpatches of them | 08:21 |
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| \sh | good :) | 08:25 |
| herve | I'm also fixing endianess issues | 08:31 |
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| herve | \sh, ping | 08:42 |
| \sh | pong | 08:44 |
| herve | you already had to cope with gcc 4 build issues, as I remember? | 08:44 |
| \sh | a bit yes | 08:44 |
| herve | when the .c declares a static function but the .h don't say it's static | 08:45 |
| herve | how to know which one is right? | 08:46 |
| \sh | well...do what the .h says | 08:46 |
| herve | thanks | 08:46 |
| herve | that's what another patch for tla did too | 08:47 |
| herve | and the series of functions this one belongs too don't have any other "static" | 08:47 |
| \sh | well...I don't know if i'm correct, but .h is the declaration, and this must be true ;) | 08:47 |
| herve | my previous patch added it to the .h :-) | 08:47 |
| \sh | :) | 08:49 |
| \sh | hmm | 08:57 |
| \sh | herve: do u know something about qt? | 09:03 |
| herve | ask me about python but not qt :) | 09:05 |
| \sh | hehe | 09:06 |
| \sh | python+qt ;) | 09:06 |
| \sh | this is one of my question | 09:06 |
| \sh | or better python | 09:07 |
| \sh | i have one function.. | 09:07 |
| \sh | it returns a global object instance | 09:07 |
| \sh | now I have a subclass of this object, with a couple of more functions | 09:07 |
| \sh | how can I make a type casting? | 09:07 |
| \sh | lets say: QWidget to QBla | 09:08 |
| \sh | QBla(QWidget) is wrong ;) | 09:08 |
| herve | hmm... | 09:08 |
| herve | let me experiment something | 09:08 |
| herve | python 2.4? | 09:08 |
| \sh | yepp | 09:09 |
| herve | I guess you wouldn't know if it uses the new object model? | 09:09 |
| \sh | well u know: c++: (QBla *)QWidget instance | 09:09 |
| Amaranth | Why would you have to cast? | 09:09 |
| Amaranth | If it supports the same API you should be fine. | 09:10 |
| \sh | ok..QBla is a inherit QWidget, so it's compatible..but I have a function which is returning QWidget only but I need the adds of QBla | 09:10 |
| Amaranth | o_O | 09:10 |
| Amaranth | How did you get in that mess? :) | 09:10 |
| \sh | well..qt | 09:10 |
| Amaranth | Someone in #python-gilliam was asking a similar question for the DOM, no one had an answer. | 09:11 |
| \sh | QWidget *QTabWidget.currentPage() | 09:11 |
| \sh | returns a qwidget | 09:11 |
| herve | \sh, that syntax isn't pythonic :-) | 09:11 |
| \sh | herve: yeah, this is c++ ;) | 09:11 |
| \sh | but i'm playing with pyqt ;) | 09:11 |
| herve | I don't see a hack to do so | 09:14 |
| herve | unless inheriting from your factory in turn and override that code :-) | 09:15 |
| Amaranth | herve: Do you by any chance use twisted? :) | 09:16 |
| herve | Amaranth, not yet, but it's too promising to ignore | 09:16 |
| \sh | hmmm....another idea...let me try | 09:17 |
| Amaranth | Well, that factory subclassing bit will come in handy. :) | 09:17 |
| herve | I remember some <instance>.__of__(class) syntax | 09:18 |
| herve | but it's a zope hack I guess | 09:19 |
| Amaranth | I spent an hour last night trying various hacks to make this work | 09:20 |
| herve | another idea may be to write a wrapper instead of a subclass | 09:21 |
| herve | that wrapper picks a QWidget | 09:21 |
| herve | and provides extra methods computed by calling the QWidget instance | 09:21 |
| Amaranth | w00t, got it | 09:22 |
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| Amaranth | qwidgetinstance.__class__ = QBlah | 09:22 |
| Amaranth | As long as QBlah subclasses QWidget it should be fine | 09:23 |
| \sh | ahhh...let me try :) | 09:24 |
| herve | hu no :-) | 09:24 |
| herve | you need to patch __dict__ too | 09:25 |
| Amaranth | herve: That only works for old-style classes | 09:25 |
| herve | the name resolution is dynamic? | 09:25 |
| \sh | sip | 09:26 |
| \sh | but it's not working | 09:26 |
| herve | hey! | 09:26 |
| herve | Amaranth, it seems to work! | 09:26 |
| Amaranth | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ojy0Fv32.html | 09:26 |
| herve | works with it without inheriting from object | 09:27 |
| herve | s/it/or | 09:27 |
| === Amaranth is l33t python master ;) | ||
| herve | ;) | 09:28 |
| Amaranth | http://rafb.net/paste/results/9OAyi817.html <--works too | 09:31 |
| herve | now do the same with C++ code :-) | 09:32 |
| Amaranth | ha | 09:32 |
| Amaranth | This is why I don't do C or C++. :) | 09:33 |
| \sh | but i have this one: | 09:39 |
| \sh | class foo: and class bar(foo): | 09:39 |
| herve | it's ok | 09:40 |
| \sh | and a class third: def __init__(self,instanceOfFoo).. def returnInstanceFoo(): return instanceOfFoo | 09:40 |
| herve | that's the case I tested | 09:40 |
| herve | you're using the wrapper or the subclass model? | 09:41 |
| \sh | subclass | 09:41 |
| herve | hmm... | 09:42 |
| herve | Amaranth, | 09:42 |
| herve | you sure the resolution is still dynamic with byte-code? | 09:42 |
| Amaranth | ? | 09:42 |
| Amaranth | You mean it doesn't work in a pyc? | 09:43 |
| \sh | thats right | 09:43 |
| herve | I wonder | 09:43 |
| herve | haven't tested | 09:43 |
| \sh | hehe | 10:07 |
| \sh | i worked around | 10:07 |
| herve | me too | 10:11 |
| herve | I have all the patches to make dia exports independant of the locale | 10:12 |
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| \sh | nice... | 10:49 |
| \sh | working | 10:49 |
| herve | I am compiling dia to see if the patches are good :-) | 10:50 |
| herve | I saw lamont filed a bug in debian about dia not compiling with gcc 4.0 | 10:50 |
| herve | the DD replied "heh, gcc 4 isn't even in debian!" | 10:50 |
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| \sh | herve: u have a flashplayer? | 11:01 |
| herve | \sh, yes | 11:03 |
| \sh | herve...ok stay here don't run away | 11:04 |
| herve | :-) | 11:04 |
| \sh | ok..just finished ;) publishing | 11:06 |
| \sh | http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/12-More-from-Pynaptiq.html | 11:07 |
| herve | nice video :-) | 11:08 |
| \sh | yeah :) | 11:09 |
| \sh | vnc2swf:) | 11:09 |
| \sh | and I found another bug in the package...have to patch it, and rebuild it for breezy | 11:10 |
| herve | woohoo! dia now ROCKS! | 11:10 |
| \sh | well...we're working while the others shaking their balls ;) | 11:12 |
| herve | I guess we have no kind uploader here? | 11:34 |
| \sh | sureley not | 11:46 |
| \sh | hmmm | 11:46 |
| \sh | thinking about a qtbittorrent client ;) | 11:46 |
| ajmitch_ | morning all | 11:47 |
| crimsun | herve: sure, url? | 11:47 |
| crimsun | morning ajmitch_ | 11:47 |
| \sh | oh :) | 11:48 |
| \sh | a couple of packages have to be uploaded and/or reviewed ;) | 11:48 |
| herve | crimsun, http://deb.oursours.net/motu/pending | 11:50 |
| herve | morning ajmitch | 11:50 |
| crimsun | herve: k | 11:50 |
| herve | thanks in advance | 11:50 |
| crimsun | herve: (need source.changes, too) | 11:51 |
| crimsun | (unless you wanted me to pbuild them?) | 11:52 |
| herve | I'll upload them | 11:53 |
| crimsun | thanks | 11:53 |
| herve | you'll upload them straight, without review, | 11:53 |
| herve | ? | 11:53 |
| crimsun | I'll review them in a bit if you'd like review | 11:53 |
| crimsun | (I only saw a request for an uploader) | 11:53 |
| herve | I was used to it with dholbach :-) | 11:53 |
| herve | changes uploaded | 11:54 |
| crimsun | ah, I guess I'll have to pbuild regardless, because you uploaded i386.changes :) | 11:56 |
| herve | argh... | 11:56 |
| crimsun | unless you built using pdebuild, in which case the source.changes will be in ../ | 11:56 |
| herve | uploaded | 11:57 |
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