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hervenow I forwarded all my dpatches to debian12:02
crimsundia uploaded. I'm getting a strange checksum mismatch for ttf-larabie, so I'm redownloading the tar.gz12:05
hervehrm12:06
herveha yes12:06
herveit's a native package12:06
herve*fear*12:07
herveI'll probably have to upload the whole set12:07
herveI just added the source.changes when you asked12:07
crimsunok, make sure the md5sum for the tar.gz matches what's listed for it in the .dsc12:08
hervesame sha112:08
crimsunc7f8189344a46d5c510112bba5eaacc105a8199c  ttf-larabie_20011216-3ubuntu1.tar.gz  <-- ?12:10
crimsunfor certain the md5sums didn't match12:10
herveI get another value :-)12:11
crimsunwelp, that would explain that12:11
crimsunI'm using wget12:11
hervedia rejected12:11
crimsunwhat was the reason?12:11
herve"pload is signed by 0x1FE80436CA130121E49B77DB7BD1B015C88ABDA3 but is not in the Maintainer keyring."12:12
crimsunwhat the12:12
crimsunI just uploaded to universe a couple days ago12:14
herveI reuploaded the whole ttf-larabie12:17
hervebut I guess it's not really important now :-()12:17
crimsunand I did upload to the correct site (not Debian!)12:17
herveI guess we need elmo's help12:21
crimsunyep, or perhaps another MOTU with privs can try.12:23
crimsunsorry, need to run. Will check back later.12:24
hervenp, thank you again12:24
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hervenight all12:50
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tsengso who is running essid UBUNTU02:38
tsengi cant dhcp it02:38
tsengor better yet, who wants to come to room 205 and give me a cable02:38
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tsengogra: !!!02:41
ogratseng, ....02:43
ogratseng, alrady here ?02:43
tsengyep02:44
tsengcome on up!02:44
ograyay... we are packing our bags in the hostel and wait for a taxi to pick us up02:44
tsengsweet02:44
tsengso you will be here soon02:44
tsengsomeone else is here already02:44
tsengi heard someone pass my room talkinga bout canonical one02:44
tsengand we have an UBUNTU essid02:45
ogradholbach is already walking to the hotel, he might be there soon02:45
tsengawesome02:45
tsenghow far are you?02:45
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tsengi could go down to meet him02:46
ogratseng, a bit tired, (dholbach tends to stand up at 6 so we were waking up very early the week)02:47
tsengyes02:47
ograbut else i'm fine...have some blisters on my feet from discovering sydney *g*02:47
tsenggood :P02:47
tsengi met some locals in the park next door02:47
tsenga little drunk, they gave me m&ms and we had a good time02:47
ograheh02:48
mjrI was wondering is there possibly going to be an amd64 mono for hoary, or will it have to wait?02:48
ogramjr, it will be in breezy02:49
mjrrighto02:49
ogratseng, ok, heading over to you now....02:49
tsengok02:50
ograciao02:50
koketseng: you around?02:55
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tsenghi07:41
dholbachhey!07:41
dholbachtseng: how are you... nice to see you... finally07:41
tsengyep07:41
tsenglets talk on irc when we are 2 feet away07:41
tsenggeek sex07:42
dholbachtseng: i had geek sex for one week now07:42
dholbachwith !6! guys around me07:42
dholbachkoke: sleeping already?07:42
kokedholbach: maybe :)07:43
dholbach:-)07:48
tsenghar07:49
kokehey guys, I need caffeine quickly... do you know where I can get some free drinks?? :D07:54
dholbachhrm... free drinks07:56
dholbachdunno07:56
kokehey, at the singapore airport there was "free ...." in all places07:58
tsenglike hookers free07:58
tsengdholbach: :'08:12
tseng:'(08:12
dholbachtseng: oh, so you're really soooo sorry?08:13
dholbachtseng: my cracktop needs HUGE amounts of power :-/08:13
tsengthats because its so damn big08:13
tsengyou have a 30" screen08:14
dholbachhahahaha :-)08:15
dholbachtseng: still listening to country music?08:15
tsenger08:16
dholbachthat's what i heard :-)08:16
tsengyou heard wrong08:17
dholbachjust kidding08:17
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dholbachhey tritium08:18
tritiumhey dholbach :)08:18
tritiumWhat's up?08:18
dholbachfinally arrived in the conference room, now tseng is going to take a picture of me or somethign08:19
dholbachhow are you?08:19
tritiumCool.  I hope you're having fun!08:19
tsengno such thing08:19
tsengyou imagined it08:19
dholbachtritium: thank you... how are you?08:19
tritiumI'm getting a bit stressed, but managing, thanks.  How are you?08:20
dholbachtritium: have blisters, but i'm fine, thanks :-)08:20
tritiumblisters?  what have you been up to?08:20
tsengtoo much dildo08:21
tseng(thats a common theme here)08:21
dholbachtritium: walking from one beach to the other barefoot :-)08:22
dholbachand walking in general08:22
tsengdoes anyone know how to check out from svn on alioth08:22
tritiumI see...08:22
tsengnm08:23
tsenghere comes the crack08:24
tsengoh08:24
tsengi shoudlnt do that here08:24
tsengsigh08:24
tritiumWell, I just stopped in to say "hi".  You guys take care, and have fun.08:25
tsengthanks08:25
tritiumSee you later!08:26
tsengcya.08:26
tritiumbye tseng, dholbach08:26
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tsengwhere is ajmitch08:30
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tsengin the eye08:31
schweebyou went to UdU?  thought you weren't goin?08:31
tsengim here, bish08:32
schweebyou suck, bish08:32
tsengok08:32
tsengwhiprush was here08:32
schweebI just got back from penguicon, UdU would have been much teh better08:32
schweebyes, that's how I knew you were there08:32
tsenghe is spying for you?08:32
schweebof course08:32
schweebhe's my bish08:32
tsengwhat did he say about me?08:33
schweebsomething about your mother08:33
tsengjeez08:33
schweeband how you look all of 14 :p08:33
tseng15, thanks08:33
Treenaksa true Gentoo geek :P08:34
Treenaks*whistle*08:34
schweebthat's nothing to be proud of08:34
schweebher08:34
schweebbah, s/her//08:34
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tsengdidnt you see the pic mike made08:34
schweebwhich one? supertseng?08:35
tsengyes08:35
schweebyea08:35
schweeblol08:35
tseng!1408:35
Treenaksurl?08:35
dholbachtseng: his flight seems to have get delayed or somethign08:35
tsengthegrebs.com/~michael/orion/super.tseng.png08:36
tsengis me as a cartoon08:36
Treenaksthere's no "S" on your chest08:36
dholbachtseng: nice08:36
schweebhow are the boomerangs and kangaroos, guys?08:37
tsengthey are suprisingly lax on the crack smoking here08:37
tsengit doesnt really feel like being in another country that much08:37
tsengand holy crap IE7 will have working png08:38
Treenakstseng: WTF?08:40
TreenaksIt's adapting!08:40
tsengyeah08:41
tsengwelcome to 200108:41
Treenaksnow we know Microsoft really ARE the borg.. they adapt..08:41
tsengi need a nap08:42
tsengyeah.. ill be down for dinner08:44
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ajmitch_evening11:09
ograyay, ajmitch_11:10
dholbachhey ajmitch_11:11
ajmitch_it finally works..11:11
tsengdholbach: i have my own kids table11:23
dholbachtseng: oh... you're back11:26
dholbachtseng: still tired?11:26
tsengdholbach: yes11:26
dholbachi can imagine11:26
dholbachbut food will make it better11:26
dholbachtseng: hungry?11:33
tsengdholbach: meh11:33
dholbachhrm11:34
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\shmorning *yawn*11:39
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LISPhello; this is the xfce channel isn't it?12:08
\shno12:10
LISPfound out..unfortunately12:11
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\shhoi dholbach01:38
dholbachhey \sh01:38
\shhow is it down under?01:41
dholbachatm a bit hectic... planning the BOFs and everything01:42
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\shdholbach: how long is the meeting? 1 week?01:47
dholbach\sh: yes01:51
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hspranghi!01:56
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thierry_hi, could you have a look at http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page02:22
thierry_this application looks great and the .deb is already done... would be great to have it on the universe02:22
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ograthierry_, please add it to the UniverseCandidates page in the ubuntu wiki02:28
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thierry_k02:30
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herve*yawn* hi!03:32
\shhey herve03:34
\shhehe...I wrote a torrent client with pyqt and python-bittorrent api in less then 10 hours ;)03:34
ogra\sh, you can do that faster ;)03:38
\shogra: hehe...without having an api documentation for bt-api?03:39
\shbut to half done apps in less then 48 hours is good03:39
\shi love python03:39
ograme too :)03:39
\shlet me do some clean up of the gui and I will show you the result03:40
herveeven the python-gnome api? :-)03:40
ograherve, yep, yust not the stuff they left out ;)03:40
\shherve: I'm the one who disliked the whole gtk stuff from the very first beginning03:41
herveI don't know about the api03:42
\shI wondered in the past and even today, how the guys from gimp can live with this nasty crap :(03:42
hervebut gtk looks much better than qt in a gui03:42
\shherve: for me it's important that you can use it03:42
\shand I don't like c++ style C code03:42
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motaboyHi all!03:52
hervehi03:53
ogranight all03:56
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trygvebwHi, in which package is dh_make?04:08
hervedh-make04:10
herve:-)04:10
trygvebwok :)04:11
trygvebwthanks :)04:11
zygaarr04:23
zygahello folks04:23
zygaI'm asking again about freeciv 2.004:23
zygaubuntu does sync with experimental or do I have to wait till freeciv goes to unstable/testing?04:24
hervefreeciv 2.0 is in unstable04:24
zygaherve: so now it's just a matter of auto-syncing with it?04:25
herveif the package compiles on ubuntu, yes04:25
zygaherve: is there any page with up-to-date generated stats that I could track?04:26
herveabout what?04:27
zygaherve: about wether it compiles or not04:27
hervehttp://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/04:27
zygahmm freeciv is nowhere on the list04:29
zygaisn't that list a little too short for universe?04:29
zyga(aren't you a little too short for a stormtrooper) ;-)04:30
hervesize doesn't matter :-)04:30
hervebut sure it seems freeciv never made it04:30
zygagecko guys would disagree ;] 04:30
zygaherve: never made it to transition or ... ?04:31
zyga(transition from debian)04:31
herveI can't even find any trace in hoart04:31
hervehoary04:31
zygait's in hoary allright04:31
zygabut it's outdated 1.4.x04:31
hervesure04:31
hervebut dated from the time warty "forked" from unstable I gues04:31
herves04:31
hervenever updated afterwards04:32
zygaherve: what can I do to help?04:32
zygashould I tell someone about that / file a bug report?04:32
zyga(or just compile from source and forget about package for a moment)04:32
herveif you compile can recompile the debian package for breeezy04:33
hervewe could sync it by hand04:33
zygaherve: I'm not a silled packager04:33
hervejust apt-get source freeciv04:33
herveapt-get build-dep freeciv04:34
hervecd freeciv-2.0.004:34
zygaherve: wont that fetch current 1.4.x version?04:34
hervedpkg-buildpackage -us -uc04:34
hervehu right04:34
herveget the one from debian by hand04:34
zygaright04:34
zygapackages.debian.org has older version... trying to find a better place04:35
hervehmmm04:36
herveha yes04:36
zygaok it's in experimental04:36
herveof course freeciv never synced then!04:36
zygadind't it move to unstable?04:36
herveseems not04:36
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zygaso I have three files .tar.gz .dsc and .diff.gz04:38
zygaI guess I should apply the diffs first04:39
zulzyga: dpkg-source -x *.dsc04:39
herveha yes, sorry04:39
zygazul: thanks! :)04:39
herveyou switched to the manual method :-)04:39
zygaherve: I'm used to it ;-)04:40
zygagetting deps now04:42
zygawhat does fakeroot do BTW?04:44
zyga(building now)04:44
herveargh04:45
=== zyga thanks herve and zul for invaluable assistance :-)
herveyes you need fakeroot :S04:45
zygaI've already got it04:46
zygait seems to be a script of some kind ;] 04:46
zygadoes dpkg-buildpackage keep compilation log?04:48
stazzAre the packages in the main repository updated only when new version of ubuntu is released?04:48
herveI think no04:48
herveyou need another command in another package04:49
hervethat would do "fakeroot dpkg-buildpckage" in a row :-)04:49
hervestazz, which version of ubuntu?04:49
stazzherve: hoary04:49
hervestazz, hoary only receives security and grave fixes, now04:50
zygahmm lots of warrnings but nothing critical IMHO04:50
herveyou the answer to your question is yes :-)04:50
hervezyga, if you knew all warnings gcc 4.0 reveals... :-)04:50
stazzherve: oh, damn.. so I should really use breezy to live on the edge? :)04:51
zygaherve: nah pointer singn differs stuff that's in 3.4 AFAIR04:51
zulxrisk is fun04:51
hervestazz, warning, the edge is sharp!04:51
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zyga:>04:52
zygaso they build allright ;] 04:52
zygacool04:52
hervezyga, already built? wow :-)04:52
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zygainstalling now04:53
hervezyga, we have better tools if you build packages often04:53
stazzherve: what are the tools called?04:54
hervepacakge devscripts04:54
zygaherve: I build stuff alot but not packages, I need to learn packaging first04:54
stazzherve: where could one get them from?04:54
hervestazz, apt-get install devscripts :-)04:54
stazzheh.. ok04:55
zygahmm is there any way to cross compile stuff this way?04:58
zyga(by any I mean = easy, not any)04:58
zygaso that I could produce i386, amd64 and ppc packages from, say amd6404:58
herveI don't know about cross-compiling04:59
mjrI don't believe there's a prearranged easy way04:59
zygahmm menu entries were not updated ...05:00
zygaah05:00
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zygaworks fine :>05:01
zygathanks again05:01
zygaif anyone want's my .debs I can put them on a website for easy access05:01
zyga(if I knew how simple this was I would never have waited for universe to sync)05:02
zygafreeciv roxx :>05:03
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burnerso... i was going to post some stuff to the wiki about Azureus... but I'm curious if it's already in the plans to grab the latest .deb from debian unstable/sarge (they're the same version)07:27
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\shburner: azureus is not in the ubuntu repos07:51
\shburner: just because of java07:52
\shplease search for java and azureus on the wiki07:52
bur[n] er\sh: i already installed it via debian unstable08:02
bur[n] erbut...08:02
bur[n] ercouldn't at least azureus be in ubuntu without the java dependency?08:03
bur[n] erjust put it in as a broken package?08:03
bur[n] erso people could add their own source for java itself08:03
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\shbur[n] er: no...too much chaos then..lets wait for java packages08:10
\shbur[n] er: or use btdownloadcurses or my tool (qt-python app + bittorrent python api)08:10
bur[n] erbleh to other tools ;)08:13
bur[n] erjava is going to be included in multiverse/universe at some point right?  so azureus packages could be on the way after that?08:13
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\shbur[n] er: I think so08:16
bur[n] erthanks \sh08:30
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hervenight all!10:09
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GheRiverores10:46
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truluxheya fellows10:58
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tsengguten morgen trulux11:17
truluxhi tseng11:19
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