[12:02] <herve> now I forwarded all my dpatches to debian
[12:05] <crimsun> dia uploaded. I'm getting a strange checksum mismatch for ttf-larabie, so I'm redownloading the tar.gz
[12:06] <herve> hrm
[12:06] <herve> ha yes
[12:06] <herve> it's a native package
[12:07] <herve> *fear*
[12:07] <herve> I'll probably have to upload the whole set
[12:07] <herve> I just added the source.changes when you asked
[12:08] <crimsun> ok, make sure the md5sum for the tar.gz matches what's listed for it in the .dsc
[12:08] <herve> same sha1
[12:10] <crimsun> c7f8189344a46d5c510112bba5eaacc105a8199c  ttf-larabie_20011216-3ubuntu1.tar.gz  <-- ?
[12:10] <crimsun> for certain the md5sums didn't match
[12:11] <herve> I get another value :-)
[12:11] <crimsun> welp, that would explain that
[12:11] <crimsun> I'm using wget
[12:11] <herve> dia rejected
[12:11] <crimsun> what was the reason?
[12:12] <herve> "pload is signed by 0x1FE80436CA130121E49B77DB7BD1B015C88ABDA3 but is not in the Maintainer keyring."
[12:12] <crimsun> what the
[12:14] <crimsun> I just uploaded to universe a couple days ago
[12:17] <herve> I reuploaded the whole ttf-larabie
[12:17] <herve> but I guess it's not really important now :-()
[12:17] <crimsun> and I did upload to the correct site (not Debian!)
[12:21] <herve> I guess we need elmo's help
[12:23] <crimsun> yep, or perhaps another MOTU with privs can try.
[12:24] <crimsun> sorry, need to run. Will check back later.
[12:24] <herve> np, thank you again
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[12:50] <herve> night all
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[02:38] <tseng> so who is running essid UBUNTU
[02:38] <tseng> i cant dhcp it
[02:38] <tseng> or better yet, who wants to come to room 205 and give me a cable
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[02:41] <tseng> ogra: !!!
[02:43] <ogra> tseng, ....
[02:43] <ogra> tseng, alrady here ?
[02:44] <tseng> yep
[02:44] <tseng> come on up!
[02:44] <ogra> yay... we are packing our bags in the hostel and wait for a taxi to pick us up
[02:44] <tseng> sweet
[02:44] <tseng> so you will be here soon
[02:44] <tseng> someone else is here already
[02:44] <tseng> i heard someone pass my room talkinga bout canonical one
[02:45] <tseng> and we have an UBUNTU essid
[02:45] <ogra> dholbach is already walking to the hotel, he might be there soon
[02:45] <tseng> awesome
[02:45] <tseng> how far are you?
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[02:46] <tseng> i could go down to meet him
[02:47] <ogra> tseng, a bit tired, (dholbach tends to stand up at 6 so we were waking up very early the week)
[02:47] <tseng> yes
[02:47] <ogra> but else i'm fine...have some blisters on my feet from discovering sydney *g*
[02:47] <tseng> good :P
[02:47] <tseng> i met some locals in the park next door
[02:47] <tseng> a little drunk, they gave me m&ms and we had a good time
[02:48] <ogra> heh
[02:48] <mjr> I was wondering is there possibly going to be an amd64 mono for hoary, or will it have to wait?
[02:49] <ogra> mjr, it will be in breezy
[02:49] <mjr> righto
[02:49] <ogra> tseng, ok, heading over to you now....
[02:50] <tseng> ok
[02:50] <ogra> ciao
[02:55] <koke> tseng: you around?
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[07:41] <tseng> hi
[07:41] <dholbach> hey!
[07:41] <dholbach> tseng: how are you... nice to see you... finally
[07:41] <tseng> yep
[07:41] <tseng> lets talk on irc when we are 2 feet away
[07:42] <tseng> geek sex
[07:42] <dholbach> tseng: i had geek sex for one week now
[07:42] <dholbach> with !6! guys around me
[07:42] <dholbach> koke: sleeping already?
[07:43] <koke> dholbach: maybe :)
[07:48] <dholbach> :-)
[07:49] <tseng> har
[07:54] <koke> hey guys, I need caffeine quickly... do you know where I can get some free drinks?? :D
[07:56] <dholbach> hrm... free drinks
[07:56] <dholbach> dunno
[07:58] <koke> hey, at the singapore airport there was "free ...." in all places
[07:58] <tseng> like hookers free
[08:12] <tseng> dholbach: :'
[08:12] <tseng> :'(
[08:13] <dholbach> tseng: oh, so you're really soooo sorry?
[08:13] <dholbach> tseng: my cracktop needs HUGE amounts of power :-/
[08:13] <tseng> thats because its so damn big
[08:14] <tseng> you have a 30" screen
[08:15] <dholbach> hahahaha :-)
[08:15] <dholbach> tseng: still listening to country music?
[08:16] <tseng> er
[08:16] <dholbach> that's what i heard :-)
[08:17] <tseng> you heard wrong
[08:17] <dholbach> just kidding
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[08:18] <dholbach> hey tritium
[08:18] <tritium> hey dholbach :)
[08:18] <tritium> What's up?
[08:19] <dholbach> finally arrived in the conference room, now tseng is going to take a picture of me or somethign
[08:19] <dholbach> how are you?
[08:19] <tritium> Cool.  I hope you're having fun!
[08:19] <tseng> no such thing
[08:19] <tseng> you imagined it
[08:19] <dholbach> tritium: thank you... how are you?
[08:20] <tritium> I'm getting a bit stressed, but managing, thanks.  How are you?
[08:20] <dholbach> tritium: have blisters, but i'm fine, thanks :-)
[08:20] <tritium> blisters?  what have you been up to?
[08:21] <tseng> too much dildo
[08:21] <tseng> (thats a common theme here)
[08:22] <dholbach> tritium: walking from one beach to the other barefoot :-)
[08:22] <dholbach> and walking in general
[08:22] <tseng> does anyone know how to check out from svn on alioth
[08:22] <tritium> I see...
[08:23] <tseng> nm
[08:24] <tseng> here comes the crack
[08:24] <tseng> oh
[08:24] <tseng> i shoudlnt do that here
[08:24] <tseng> sigh
[08:25] <tritium> Well, I just stopped in to say "hi".  You guys take care, and have fun.
[08:25] <tseng> thanks
[08:26] <tritium> See you later!
[08:26] <tseng> cya.
[08:26] <tritium> bye tseng, dholbach
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[08:30] <tseng> where is ajmitch
=== schweeb pokes tseng 
=== tseng pokes back
[08:31] <tseng> in the eye
[08:31] <schweeb> you went to UdU?  thought you weren't goin?
[08:32] <tseng> im here, bish
[08:32] <schweeb> you suck, bish
[08:32] <tseng> ok
[08:32] <tseng> whiprush was here
[08:32] <schweeb> I just got back from penguicon, UdU would have been much teh better
[08:32] <schweeb> yes, that's how I knew you were there
[08:32] <tseng> he is spying for you?
[08:32] <schweeb> of course
[08:32] <schweeb> he's my bish
[08:33] <tseng> what did he say about me?
[08:33] <schweeb> something about your mother
[08:33] <tseng> jeez
[08:33] <schweeb> and how you look all of 14 :p
[08:33] <tseng> 15, thanks
[08:34] <Treenaks> a true Gentoo geek :P
[08:34] <Treenaks> *whistle*
[08:34] <schweeb> that's nothing to be proud of
[08:34] <schweeb> her
[08:34] <schweeb> bah, s/her//
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[08:34] <tseng> didnt you see the pic mike made
[08:35] <schweeb> which one? supertseng?
[08:35] <tseng> yes
[08:35] <schweeb> yea
[08:35] <schweeb> lol
[08:35] <tseng> !14
[08:35] <Treenaks> url?
[08:35] <dholbach> tseng: his flight seems to have get delayed or somethign
[08:36] <tseng> thegrebs.com/~michael/orion/super.tseng.png
[08:36] <tseng> is me as a cartoon
[08:36] <Treenaks> there's no "S" on your chest
[08:36] <dholbach> tseng: nice
[08:37] <schweeb> how are the boomerangs and kangaroos, guys?
[08:37] <tseng> they are suprisingly lax on the crack smoking here
[08:37] <tseng> it doesnt really feel like being in another country that much
[08:38] <tseng> and holy crap IE7 will have working png
[08:40] <Treenaks> tseng: WTF?
[08:40] <Treenaks> It's adapting!
[08:41] <tseng> yeah
[08:41] <tseng> welcome to 2001
[08:41] <Treenaks> now we know Microsoft really ARE the borg.. they adapt..
[08:42] <tseng> i need a nap
[08:44] <tseng> yeah.. ill be down for dinner
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[10:56] <GheRivero> res
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[11:09] <ajmitch_> evening
[11:10] <ogra> yay, ajmitch_
[11:11] <dholbach> hey ajmitch_
[11:11] <ajmitch_> it finally works..
[11:23] <tseng> dholbach: i have my own kids table
[11:26] <dholbach> tseng: oh... you're back
[11:26] <dholbach> tseng: still tired?
[11:26] <tseng> dholbach: yes
[11:26] <dholbach> i can imagine
[11:26] <dholbach> but food will make it better
[11:33] <dholbach> tseng: hungry?
[11:33] <tseng> dholbach: meh
[11:34] <dholbach> hrm
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[11:39] <\sh> morning *yawn*
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[12:08] <LISP> hello; this is the xfce channel isn't it?
[12:10] <\sh> no
[12:11] <LISP> found out..unfortunately
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[01:38] <\sh> hoi dholbach
[01:38] <dholbach> hey \sh
[01:41] <\sh> how is it down under?
[01:42] <dholbach> atm a bit hectic... planning the BOFs and everything
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[01:47] <\sh> dholbach: how long is the meeting? 1 week?
[01:51] <dholbach> \sh: yes
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[01:56] <hsprang> hi!
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[02:22] <thierry_> hi, could you have a look at http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[02:22] <thierry_> this application looks great and the .deb is already done... would be great to have it on the universe
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[02:28] <ogra> thierry_, please add it to the UniverseCandidates page in the ubuntu wiki
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[02:30] <thierry_> k
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[03:32] <herve> *yawn* hi!
[03:34] <\sh> hey herve
[03:34] <\sh> hehe...I wrote a torrent client with pyqt and python-bittorrent api in less then 10 hours ;)
[03:38] <ogra> \sh, you can do that faster ;)
[03:39] <\sh> ogra: hehe...without having an api documentation for bt-api?
[03:39] <\sh> but to half done apps in less then 48 hours is good
[03:39] <\sh> i love python
[03:39] <ogra> me too :)
[03:40] <\sh> let me do some clean up of the gui and I will show you the result
[03:40] <herve> even the python-gnome api? :-)
[03:40] <ogra> herve, yep, yust not the stuff they left out ;)
[03:41] <\sh> herve: I'm the one who disliked the whole gtk stuff from the very first beginning
[03:42] <herve> I don't know about the api
[03:42] <\sh> I wondered in the past and even today, how the guys from gimp can live with this nasty crap :(
[03:42] <herve> but gtk looks much better than qt in a gui
[03:42] <\sh> herve: for me it's important that you can use it
[03:42] <\sh> and I don't like c++ style C code
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[03:52] <motaboy> Hi all!
[03:53] <herve> hi
[03:56] <ogra> night all
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[04:08] <trygvebw> Hi, in which package is dh_make?
[04:10] <herve> dh-make
[04:10] <herve> :-)
[04:11] <trygvebw> ok :)
[04:11] <trygvebw> thanks :)
[04:23] <zyga> arr
[04:23] <zyga> hello folks
[04:23] <zyga> I'm asking again about freeciv 2.0
[04:24] <zyga> ubuntu does sync with experimental or do I have to wait till freeciv goes to unstable/testing?
[04:24] <herve> freeciv 2.0 is in unstable
[04:25] <zyga> herve: so now it's just a matter of auto-syncing with it?
[04:25] <herve> if the package compiles on ubuntu, yes
[04:26] <zyga> herve: is there any page with up-to-date generated stats that I could track?
[04:27] <herve> about what?
[04:27] <zyga> herve: about wether it compiles or not
[04:27] <herve> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/byDate/
[04:29] <zyga> hmm freeciv is nowhere on the list
[04:29] <zyga> isn't that list a little too short for universe?
[04:30] <zyga> (aren't you a little too short for a stormtrooper) ;-)
[04:30] <herve> size doesn't matter :-)
[04:30] <herve> but sure it seems freeciv never made it
[04:30] <zyga> gecko guys would disagree ;] 
[04:31] <zyga> herve: never made it to transition or ... ?
[04:31] <zyga> (transition from debian)
[04:31] <herve> I can't even find any trace in hoart
[04:31] <herve> hoary
[04:31] <zyga> it's in hoary allright
[04:31] <zyga> but it's outdated 1.4.x
[04:31] <herve> sure
[04:31] <herve> but dated from the time warty "forked" from unstable I gues
[04:31] <herve> s
[04:32] <herve> never updated afterwards
[04:32] <zyga> herve: what can I do to help?
[04:32] <zyga> should I tell someone about that / file a bug report?
[04:32] <zyga> (or just compile from source and forget about package for a moment)
[04:33] <herve> if you compile can recompile the debian package for breeezy
[04:33] <herve> we could sync it by hand
[04:33] <zyga> herve: I'm not a silled packager
[04:33] <herve> just apt-get source freeciv
[04:34] <herve> apt-get build-dep freeciv
[04:34] <herve> cd freeciv-2.0.0
[04:34] <zyga> herve: wont that fetch current 1.4.x version?
[04:34] <herve> dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc
[04:34] <herve> hu right
[04:34] <herve> get the one from debian by hand
[04:34] <zyga> right
[04:35] <zyga> packages.debian.org has older version... trying to find a better place
[04:36] <herve> hmmm
[04:36] <herve> ha yes
[04:36] <zyga> ok it's in experimental
[04:36] <herve> of course freeciv never synced then!
[04:36] <zyga> dind't it move to unstable?
[04:36] <herve> seems not
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[04:38] <zyga> so I have three files .tar.gz .dsc and .diff.gz
[04:39] <zyga> I guess I should apply the diffs first
[04:39] <zul> zyga: dpkg-source -x *.dsc
[04:39] <herve> ha yes, sorry
[04:39] <zyga> zul: thanks! :)
[04:39] <herve> you switched to the manual method :-)
[04:40] <zyga> herve: I'm used to it ;-)
[04:42] <zyga> getting deps now
[04:44] <zyga> what does fakeroot do BTW?
[04:44] <zyga> (building now)
[04:45] <herve> argh
=== zyga thanks herve and zul for invaluable assistance :-)
[04:45] <herve> yes you need fakeroot :S
[04:46] <zyga> I've already got it
[04:46] <zyga> it seems to be a script of some kind ;] 
[04:48] <zyga> does dpkg-buildpackage keep compilation log?
[04:48] <stazz> Are the packages in the main repository updated only when new version of ubuntu is released?
[04:48] <herve> I think no
[04:49] <herve> you need another command in another package
[04:49] <herve> that would do "fakeroot dpkg-buildpckage" in a row :-)
[04:49] <herve> stazz, which version of ubuntu?
[04:49] <stazz> herve: hoary
[04:50] <herve> stazz, hoary only receives security and grave fixes, now
[04:50] <zyga> hmm lots of warrnings but nothing critical IMHO
[04:50] <herve> you the answer to your question is yes :-)
[04:50] <herve> zyga, if you knew all warnings gcc 4.0 reveals... :-)
[04:51] <stazz> herve: oh, damn.. so I should really use breezy to live on the edge? :)
[04:51] <zyga> herve: nah pointer singn differs stuff that's in 3.4 AFAIR
[04:51] <zul> xrisk is fun
[04:51] <herve> stazz, warning, the edge is sharp!
=== zyga has freeciv_2.0.0-*.debs
[04:52] <zyga> :>
[04:52] <zyga> so they build allright ;] 
[04:52] <zyga> cool
[04:52] <herve> zyga, already built? wow :-)
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[04:53] <zyga> installing now
[04:53] <herve> zyga, we have better tools if you build packages often
[04:54] <stazz> herve: what are the tools called?
[04:54] <herve> pacakge devscripts
[04:54] <zyga> herve: I build stuff alot but not packages, I need to learn packaging first
[04:54] <stazz> herve: where could one get them from?
[04:54] <herve> stazz, apt-get install devscripts :-)
[04:55] <stazz> heh.. ok
[04:58] <zyga> hmm is there any way to cross compile stuff this way?
[04:58] <zyga> (by any I mean = easy, not any)
[04:58] <zyga> so that I could produce i386, amd64 and ppc packages from, say amd64
[04:59] <herve> I don't know about cross-compiling
[04:59] <mjr> I don't believe there's a prearranged easy way
[05:00] <zyga> hmm menu entries were not updated ...
[05:00] <zyga> ah
=== zyga is blind
[05:01] <zyga> works fine :>
[05:01] <zyga> thanks again
[05:01] <zyga> if anyone want's my .debs I can put them on a website for easy access
[05:02] <zyga> (if I knew how simple this was I would never have waited for universe to sync)
[05:03] <zyga> freeciv roxx :>
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[07:27] <burner> so... i was going to post some stuff to the wiki about Azureus... but I'm curious if it's already in the plans to grab the latest .deb from debian unstable/sarge (they're the same version)
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[07:51] <\sh> burner: azureus is not in the ubuntu repos
[07:52] <\sh> burner: just because of java
[07:52] <\sh> please search for java and azureus on the wiki
[08:02] <bur[n] er> \sh: i already installed it via debian unstable
[08:02] <bur[n] er> but...
[08:03] <bur[n] er> couldn't at least azureus be in ubuntu without the java dependency?
[08:03] <bur[n] er> just put it in as a broken package?
[08:03] <bur[n] er> so people could add their own source for java itself
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[08:10] <\sh> bur[n] er: no...too much chaos then..lets wait for java packages
[08:10] <\sh> bur[n] er: or use btdownloadcurses or my tool (qt-python app + bittorrent python api)
[08:13] <bur[n] er> bleh to other tools ;)
[08:13] <bur[n] er> java is going to be included in multiverse/universe at some point right?  so azureus packages could be on the way after that?
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[08:16] <\sh> bur[n] er: I think so
[08:30] <bur[n] er> thanks \sh
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[10:09] <herve> night all!
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[10:46] <GheRivero> res
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[10:58] <trulux> heya fellows
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[11:17] <tseng> guten morgen trulux
[11:19] <trulux> hi tseng
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