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Jeezisircbot_: inprocomm mini-pci, its built in to my laptop12:00
djm62icebalm: your instructions are taken, and thoroughly disregarded12:00
ircbot_fejaor: bad idea to install one version of firefox over another12:00
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djm62icebalm: my money goes where I want12:00
ircbot_fejaor: apt-get remove firefox12:00
Anlarfejaor: bug fixes are being backported, don't look at the version numbers.12:00
ircbot_fejaor: apt-get remove mozilla-firefox (maybe?)12:00
djm62icebalm: and I certainly wouldn't tell you how to spend yours12:00
FlyingSquirrel32Does anyone know of a good Open Source alternative for Mind Mapper?12:00
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icebalmdjm62: I'm not telling you what to do, if you don't want to spend the extra $10 to buy a real soundcard and waste your time with software kludges that's up to you12:01
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ircbot_Jeezis: you check the forums?  i've heard of that problem before but i don't recall the fix12:01
fejaorI can't remove it cause I don't have "enough privileges" (only user!!!)12:01
Marble2put sudo before the command12:01
Jeezisircbot_: i've searched ubuntu.com12:01
Marble2you need root access to do that12:01
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ircbot_icebalm: what about those of us who can't quite figure out to install said sound card in a freaking lappy?  that's when the "software kludges" look pretty damn good12:02
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FlyingSquirrel32I'm trying to get a local Realator to try linux, but uses Mind mapper heavily12:02
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Marble2fejaor: I compiled 1.0.3 from source and copied it over the 1.0.2 install from the ubuntu repositories, and my stuff is working fine12:02
crimsunwliu: sec12:02
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djm62FlyingSquirrel32: freemind.sf.net if you don't mind java12:02
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icebalmircbot_: many laptops have sound chipsets which support multiple streams, if yours dont then by all means, waste your time12:03
FlyingSquirrel32thanks, I'll check it out.12:03
xorgI'm having trouble getting my new xorg.conf read after reboot?12:03
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ircbot_icebalm: waste my time?  you have a mighty big opinion there12:03
icebalmircbot_: I however would posit that it wouldn't (shouldn't?) be a big deal on a laptop12:03
AmplificatorWhere is the settings for "Keyboard Shortcuts" saved? I can't disable the keysa!12:03
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fejaorhow did you do that Marble2??12:04
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icebalmircbot_: yes, I do. Basically it goes like this: 1. buy proper computer and spend extra $10 or 2. waste time that's worth way more than $10 to get the same result12:04
ircbot_i like having multiple sounds on my lappy... and i've found it to be a fix...12:04
gordonjcpevening all12:04
ircbot_icebalm: took me all of 20 minutes to set up esd12:04
ircbot_icebalm: and i got a lappy that has great pretty much everything except a decent sound card.  so you can take your opinion and find a place to put it.12:05
icebalmircbot_: 20 minutes I never had to waste12:05
fejaorI've downloaded the version 1.0.3 but can't installed correctly12:05
Marble2compiled it in a seperate directory, then copied it over to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox12:05
ircbot_anyways... i'm out.12:05
djm6220 minutes of my time is worth <$512:06
fejaorI can't download win32 codecs....cant find it on synaptic....help!!12:06
icebalmdjm62: no comment12:07
Marble2fejaor: PM me12:07
djm62fejaor: did you go through the RestrictedFormats section of the wiki?12:07
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crimsunwliu: you have multiple sound cards?12:08
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wliucrimsun: no, just the one built into the motherboard12:09
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xorghello folks; I've just installed, I'm stuck with screen resolution  640x480, I've tried using the GUI for changing it but I am only given the choice of 640x480? I've tried editing my xorg.conf with a text editor, my changes don't take affect after reboot?12:09
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crimsunwhy are you using hw:1,0 in your dmixer definition, then?12:09
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CrazyNormanI'm running Hoary with a GeForce FX 5700LE 256mb with the binary drivers installed.  I enabled composite rendering using a tutorial in the forums.  Things feel somewhat slow, and random parts of the screen get corrupted.  Any idea what could be wrong, because other people had tried it and said it worked.12:10
Anlarxorg: you need to add the modelines in your xorg.conf to the Monitor section.12:10
pharaonic_anubisIs there a way to make chown apply the new ownership to the directory and all of its subdirectories?12:10
Edganfejaor: your display working the way you want now?12:10
xorgAnlar: I dont understand could you please explain more?12:10
crimsunwliu: cat /proc/asound/cards   -> #flood12:11
p2oghow can I change settings so that when I bring a window close to another they "snap" together12:11
Edganfejaor: as for win32 codecs, they are in hoary-extras, an unoffical ubuntu repo12:11
GammaRayxorg: an easier way is to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:12
EdganGammaRay: What exactly does that do?12:13
nickrudpharaonic_anubis, -R12:13
Anlargammaray: the autoprobe doesn't unfortunately seem to work for all the monitors..12:13
nickrudpharaonic_anubis, man chown12:13
Anlargammaray: suggests for instance to me to use 10 000 Hz refresh rate12:14
nickrudman pages are good if all you need is a command switch :)12:14
FlyingSquirrel32having trouble installing java. Is there a repository you recommend?12:14
GammaRayAnlar: it allows you to manually select resolutions and virt refresh etc also12:14
tbirdFlyingSquirrel32, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23592.html12:14
pharaonic_anubisnickrud, yah I manned it... didn't see the -R though. Accept my apologies for my utter ignorance.12:14
Anlargammaray: nice to know.12:15
karljphttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java1512:15
hans_is there a driver for an ati 9700 on ubuntu?12:15
karljpthe bottom section (ignore the top half)12:15
GammaRayEdgan: it basically leads you through editing xorg.conf but w/ a curses wizard12:15
EdganGammaRay: ah12:15
GammaRayand defaults12:15
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GammaRayit has defaults (-;12:15
nickrudpharaonic_anubis, I'm not about to estimate how many times that's happened to me :/12:16
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nickrudFlyingSquirrel32, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java  I like method three.12:18
^vir^hi12:18
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karljpmethod 3 is very similar to the java1.5 wiki page12:19
^vir^i've just installed enlightenment & am wondering how i would change my box to use enlightenment instead12:19
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nickrudi'ts nice because you can easily remove it if you want12:19
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zero[] anybody here get Warcraft III working with Wine?12:19
GammaRayyou know the top of xorg.conf tells you to type man /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:19
GammaRaythat's nuts12:19
zero[] i get it to start, but can't select a campaign12:20
karljpwhat's nuts about it?12:20
djm62^vir^: set the session to enlightenment, and I think it defaults to "previous session" or gives you the option to12:20
karljplots of files can be manned12:20
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zero[] and i also have cedega, but can't get it to start with cedega at all12:20
GammaRaykarljp: try it12:20
karljpwhoah12:20
karljpok :)12:20
karljpyou win12:20
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geargolemhow to remove locked files?12:20
karljpman xorg.conf works though12:20
GammaRayI'm sure that's what they mean12:20
nickrudkarljp, then man your driver12:21
^vir^djm62,  when i did a restart it didn't give me that option like it would do if i had kde installed12:21
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karljpdexconf quirkiness12:21
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geargolemlocked file in hoary... how do I remove it?12:22
Amplificator12:22
nickrudgeargolem, rm <locked-file>12:22
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geargolemthank you nickrud12:22
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djm62^vir^: when you log in, you can choose session?12:23
geargolemhow about a directory, nickrud?12:23
^vir^yeah but enlightenment wasn't listed12:23
nickrudgeargolem, if it's empty, rmdir12:23
geargolemthank you12:23
nickrudnp12:23
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^vir^default, gnome, failsafe & last session i believe djm6212:24
djm62^vir^: oh...you do have it installed, but it's not listed?  :-/12:24
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^vir^i used synaptic to get the packages djm62 so should be installed12:25
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tbird^vir^ is it enlightenment0.17.0_pre10 ?12:26
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n3hello12:26
tbirdi tried to install that but the howto i found well the links were all wrong so i fixed them then the packages either was not there of were broken12:27
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tbirdhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2021612:27
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^vir^i think its e16 i tried but enlightenment looks good12:28
djm62^vir^: that's strange...I'm not sure what's wrong there12:28
tbirdanyone got e17 working through synaptic12:28
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nickrudlol12:28
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nickrudI do this for stress relief :)12:29
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djm62yeah...168 hours a week, if everyone sticks in a couple, free support can work well12:29
geargolemBagisas/Blender heads?  Need to install12:29
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nickrudI'm kinda overboard right now, but I've got some parties to make up for.12:30
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hyapadidoes anyone know how to run a command during boot ( everytime )?12:31
n3anyone want to watch a documentary on rock music?12:31
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nickrudhyapadi, use /etc/init.d/skeleton as a template, and man update-rc.d12:32
Burgundavian3, kind of offtopic for here12:32
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^vir^tbird,  seen this? http://soulmachine.net/debian/unstable-20050215/12:32
n3ok12:32
n3nevermind12:32
n3PS: has anyone seen the documentary THE CODE?>12:32
tbirdyeah ^vir^ thats basically what i went by12:32
n3about linux?12:32
tbirdwell they are mentioned in the link i just put up12:32
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tbirdi shanged it to point to that12:33
mjrn3, I have12:33
tbirdbut did not work12:33
djm62geargolem: what's the structure of these heads?12:33
tbird^vir^ did you just dl the files from there and install them ?12:34
geargolemdjm62, trying to install bagisas(gui)  for yafray/blender12:34
mjrn3, there were some weird style choices, but I suppose it conveys the gist of it adequately12:34
djm62geargolem: ah :)12:34
devscottanyone have any experience with prolog12:34
djm62I have blender installed, so that's in universe or multiverse12:34
^vir^i haven't yet tried tbird i will in a sec i think12:34
mjrdjm62, universe12:35
mjrdjm62, hint: apt-cache policy package tells where it's at12:35
tbird^vir^ did not work for me at all hope you have better luck12:35
cens0redhey does ubuntu auto-upgrade? Like, if you begin with 5.04 and and you're constantly downloading updates ... will you eventually end up with a 5.05?12:35
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n3Cool12:36
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n3u seen it12:36
mjrcens0red, there won't be a 5.05, and there are no autoupgrades, but you can do it easily enough12:36
n3do you know where to buy the DVD?12:36
_foxinesshi12:36
mjrn3, sorry, no12:36
^vir^cens0red, the release builds go by dates12:36
n3ok12:36
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n3did you ftp it too?12:36
djm62bagisas...looks like it isn't in there12:36
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mjrn3, watched it on T, plus my SO got a DVD for free from organizing a conference here12:37
Burgundaviacens0red, there is no 5.05. The next version is 5.1012:37
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cens0red^vir^ aah. 5.05 = April 2005?12:37
mjron TV, that is12:37
cens0rederr May 2005?12:37
yonerUbuntu is fantastic! I just booted the live x86 and am now running the PPC. Does anyone know whether sleep works on PowerBook systems?12:37
n3HEY!12:37
Burgundaviacens0red, and they are working on tool to allow it easily for 5.1012:37
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Burgundaviacens0red, current stable is 5.0412:37
n3you have the DVD of the CODE - LINUX?12:37
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Burgundaviacens0red, but otherwise you are right12:37
djm62yoner: not all...give it a try12:37
^vir^next release is in oct i think12:37
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mjrn3, yep12:38
n3COOL12:38
n3i wish12:38
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n3i could get the stuff12:38
djm62n3: let the caps relax, man12:38
n3but dont even have a credit card or know where to start12:38
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n3so downloaded it from ftp12:38
anacan anyone help me, ive installed firestarter to share my connection but the host doesnt connect, what is the gateway that i should put in the host12:38
yonerThanks. This is by far the best live CD I have seen.12:38
_foxinessafter i installed ubuntu i can not than access my fedora "am try to change (hd0,n) and try grub-install" any point here !12:38
n3I got UBUNTU CDs LIVE and Full Install for free from the science center here12:39
geargolemdjm62 have to build from source.  bagisas= gui for yafray12:39
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kkamranihey eveyrone, i'm trying to get samba to share some of the folders on my ubuntu computer with my windows machines however after following the instructions on the wiki.ubuntulinux.org page i'm still at a loss. i've even reset my SMBpasswd... but no dice. anyone have any pointers?12:39
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vessuvius81kkamranai- www.samba.org12:40
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vessuvius81Has anyone here ever used Gentoo?12:41
guardian653sure have12:41
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kkamranivessuvius81, been there -- i got everything setup and configured /etc/samba/smb.conf12:41
vessuvius81Any incites about advantages/disadvantages over Ubuntu?12:41
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_foxinessif i select auto then will ubuntu installer will over write /boot partition for fc3 on the same hd ?12:41
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vessuvius81kkamrani, can you ping the server from your client?12:41
occyhmmm12:41
Burgundaviavessuvius81, different target audience12:41
kkamraniyes i can, vessuvius8112:42
djm62geargolem: do you know the dependencies?12:42
geargolemyes, have them12:42
occyUbuntu's Firefox doesn't have the developer stuff in it.12:42
vessuvius81how are you trying to map the share?12:42
xor1hello Anlar that advice work like a charm thank you12:42
Anlar:)12:42
yonerDoes anyone have experience with sleeping a PowerBook system from the live Ubuntu CD? I may well be clueless, but I don't see any options in the Gnome GUI12:42
xor1thanks mate12:42
kkamranibut the shares dont show up under the windows network, and when i try to load up \\ubuntu (the name of my ubuntu machine) windows says the host was not found12:42
geargolemdjm62, PIL, PyXML, Python(2.4)12:43
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vessuvius81kkamrani, dns not working?12:43
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occyanyone here know how I can get the web developer extention working with Ubuntu?12:43
guardian653vessuvius81, compile time can be an issue, but you can do almost anything you want for packages12:43
kkamranivessuvius81, ahhh maybe, how can i tell if it is working12:43
djm62geargolem: so, you're ok with the installation? (best to install to /usr/local)12:43
_foxinessdid u c my text plz12:43
vessuvius81nslookup ubuntu12:43
kkamraniokay12:43
geargolemdjm62, no.  having no luck whatsoever12:43
djm62geargolem: what's up?12:44
kkamranikkamrani@ubuntu:~$ nslookup ubuntu12:44
kkamraniServer:         192.168.0.112:44
kkamraniAddress:        192.168.0.1#5312:44
kkamrani** server can't find ubuntu: NXDOMAIN12:44
kkamranikkamrani@ubuntu:~$12:44
occy The 'View Style Information' feature requires a DOM  Inspector enabled build.12:44
kkamrani192.168.0.1 is my router/dhcp server12:44
occyhttp://chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/documentation/faq/12:44
geargolemdjm62  getting half-done installation directions.  not sure what needs to be done12:44
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Kartagistry ubuntu.com or ubuntulinux.org12:44
_foxinessif i select auto then will ubuntu installer will over write /boot partition for fc3 on the same hd ?12:45
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vessuvius81ok, well I don't want to go completely though setting up bind... so... does your samba machine have a static ip?12:45
occyanyone know how I can get the DOM Inspector stuff into Ubuntu's Firefox?12:45
vessuvius81or a dynamic one?12:45
_foxinesshi all12:45
Kartagiskkamrani: try ubuntu.com or ubuntulinux.org12:45
kkamraniahh i knew i have to setup BIND12:45
anadoes anyone know how to share connection with firestarter12:45
kkamraniit has a static ip, vessuvius8112:45
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vessuvius81well then you should be able to reach it with its ip address instead of the name12:46
djm62geargolem: what exactly are you doing, and what exactly is the error?12:46
occynm12:46
occymozilla-firefox-dom-inspector12:46
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occyheh12:46
_foxinessafter i installed ubuntu i can not than access my fedora "am try to change (hd0,n) and try grub-install" any point here !12:46
geargolemdjm62  must set paths...   what paths?  to where?  why?12:47
vessuvius81kkamrani, first setup a completely open shared directory... readable, browseable, writeable, the whole works12:47
occysweet, I love it when I answer my own question.12:47
anapleeeaassseee...12:47
anasomebody help me shatre my connection12:47
kkamranii can VNC and SSH/Telnet into it using the static IP but not the hostname...12:47
karljpanyone know someting that's as easy to use as the alarm clock and countdown timer on my mobile phone?12:47
kkamraniokay, vessuvius81 i'll do that12:47
vessuvius81also, make sure in your smb.conf, the WORKGROUP is set to the same workgroup or domain that your windows machine has set12:48
_foxinessana, there are wizerd come with it12:48
vessuvius81that would be the first thing to check12:48
karljpI want to do something fairly obnoxious, and I don't really care what it is, very very easily, at a certain time, or in a certain time.12:48
kkamranivessuvius81, it's the exact same workgroup - MSHome12:48
_foxinessdid u c my text plz12:48
vessuvius81ok12:48
kkamranivessuvius81, i created a completely open share12:48
ana_foxiness,  i know, the problem is i dont know the gateway i should put in on the other pc12:48
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anaits connected through a crossover cable12:49
vessuvius81ok, so see if you can map it12:49
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vessuvius81using the IP12:49
djm62geargolem: does the program run for you?12:49
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_foxinessana is it dhcp12:49
geargolemno, djm62,  unsure of how to set up12:49
vessuvius81net use X: //192.168.0.2/sharename12:49
vessuvius81or however12:49
kkamranicant find 192.168.0.212:49
kkamrani192.168.0.2 is the static ip for my ubuntu box12:50
vessuvius81is that your samba server's address?12:50
vessuvius81ok12:50
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vessuvius81and you can ping it?12:50
kkamraniyes12:50
djm62geargolem: if you've tar -xzvf'ed it , cd to the new directory and try typing ./Bagisas.py12:50
vessuvius81make sure you have samba running then12:50
kkamranii'm vnc'd into it12:50
geargolemok djm6212:50
kkamraniokay lemme do a ps -A to see if Samba is running12:50
yonerFYI, for anyone running an olde G3 Pismo. It looks like sleep is not supported, as there's no "suspend" option active on the battery panel12:50
ana_foxiness, the pc that is connected to the internet has 2 netcards eth0 that is the adsl pppoe modem and eth1 which is the lan12:51
vessuvius81somewhere in sbin I think is samba... do a samba restart12:51
EddieXAnyone who is using sdl here(programming)?12:51
djm62yoner: that may be different between the liveCD and installed distro12:51
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anaeth1 is hooked to a pentium which i set up as ip 192.168.0.312:51
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anasubmask255.255.255.012:51
geargolem  File "./Bagisas.py", line 31, in ?12:51
geargolem    import profile12:51
geargolem  djm6212:51
anabut i dont know the gateway12:51
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vessuvius81probably 192.168.0.112:52
kkamranihrmm when i did a ps -A samba was not running that could be it12:52
marskaHello.. I was wondering if anyone knew if Mozilla has a TEXT ONLY MODE wherein all pictures and graphics are disabled?12:52
dr_willisthat would be my guess also vessuvius8112:52
yonerThanks djm62. It's not my machine, so I dare not install it. The user would go mad ;-)12:52
djm62geargolem: cool...I'm getting that problem too12:52
kkamranii'll feeel really dumb if that's the case!12:52
vessuvius81happens to us all :)12:52
geargolemhow is that cool, djm62?  :P12:53
kkamranihow do you start samba, vessuvius81?12:53
vessuvius81hmmm12:53
vessuvius81search for samba12:53
vessuvius81might be in usr/bin12:53
_foxinessana, u can change it from auto to static one than give it a no. u want12:53
djm62geargolem: because I'm searching for the solution12:53
yonerIs anyone else seeing time display issues with the menubar clock on the live CD? I've seen this on both PPC and x8612:54
geargolemok, djm62.  where did you tar bagisas?12:54
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ringmauerhow to open a program thats not in the applications list?12:54
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RuKKringmauer, applications>run application>app name>enter12:55
RuKK:)12:55
qkslvrwolf_you gotta search for it and then run the executable from console12:55
djm62geargolem: Desktop, where it was downloaded.  I'd probably end up putting it in $HOME and adding that directory to the end of my $PATH12:55
nydusti have mysql installed but mambo install cant ind it12:55
nydustind=find12:55
vessuvius81kk, also do testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf12:55
vessuvius81makes sure that works12:55
ringmauerRukk, ive installed libpoker 3d in synaptic ,in which folder is in installed then?12:56
emokidi just now got banned from #debian just because i said that ubuntu is greater than debian!!!12:56
kkamranikkamrani@ubuntu:/usr/bin$ smbstatus12:56
kkamranisessionid.tdb not initialised12:56
kkamrani/var/run/samba/connections.tdb not initialised12:56
kkamraniThis is normal if an SMB client has never connected to your server.12:56
kkamrani/var/run/samba/locking.tdb not initialised12:56
kkamraniThis is normal if an SMB client has never connected to your server.12:56
kkamranikkamrani@ubuntu:/usr/bin$12:56
RuKKringmauer, search for libpoker12:56
RuKKor just try running libpoker12:57
djm62emokid: that sort of thing isn't recommended in the most liberal forums, let alone #debian12:57
kkamranikkamrani@ubuntu:/usr/bin$ testparm12:57
kkamraniLoad smb config files from /etc/samba/smb.conf12:57
kkamraniProcessing section "[homes] "12:57
kkamraniProcessing section "[printers] "12:57
kkamraniProcessing section "[print$] "12:57
kkamraniProcessing section "[WWW] "12:57
kkamraniProcessing section "[Home] "12:57
kkamraniLoaded services file OK.12:57
kkamraniServer role: ROLE_STANDALONE12:57
kkamraniPress enter to see a dump of your service definitions12:57
kkamranieverythign sems to work12:57
Amaranthah!!12:57
vessuvius81ok, so your smb.conf is right12:57
AmaranthPlease don't do that again.12:57
RuKKemokid, emo sucks so bad.. even pop is better.12:57
vessuvius81yeah, pvt me if you want to show taht stuff, kk12:57
emokidcan some1 help me out with my nat confing12:58
kkamranii dont see anything in /usr/bin that would restart smb12:58
RuKK;)12:58
cens0redso does ubuntu aim at being the "windows killer"? Or just a bloody good desktop linux?12:58
emokidive opened natd.conf how co i close ports12:58
kkamranisorry, i didnt know it would piss some people off... my bad12:58
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vessuvius81kk, sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart12:58
djm62cens0red: what would it mean to be the "windows killer"?12:58
Marble2Is there a good standalone application that can mass edit id3 tags (getting album info from freedb would be a plus too...)12:58
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kkamraniokay did the samba restart12:58
djm62cens0red: I think it just aims to be what it is well12:59
kkamranilet's see if it works!12:59
Simianwhere can i find the .vimrc file12:59
yonerThanks to all in this group. Going back to the x86 box before the Mac user freaks!12:59
vessuvius81smbclient -L12:59
djm62:)12:59
emokidive opened natd.conf how co i close ports12:59
nickrudcens0red, I don't care where they think they're going, it WORKS FOR ME :)12:59
kkamraniwell    well wellm12:59
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kkamranivessuvius81, you are my hero12:59
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kkamranithanks so much!12:59
djm62lot of PPC users about these days12:59
kkamraniit works!12:59
geargolemdjm62 alternative would be to get yafray gui for win and wine it.12:59
vessuvius81good :)12:59
vessuvius81everytime you change smb.conf, be sure to restart01:00
kkamranii guess samba needed a restart after i configed it01:00
vessuvius81ya01:00
kkamranihaha alright01:00
kkamranithanks again01:00
karljpI certainly hope it's not meant to be a windows killer01:00
vessuvius81no prob01:00
kkamranimuch appreciate you help01:00
karljpwindows killer would look and feel like windows, but be free.01:00
dr_williswhy have somthing as pathic as windows. :P01:00
nickrudkde (cough, cough)01:00
djm62geargolem: sub-optimal...you could try on the foryms of the bagisas site and ask if anyone's using on ubuntu01:00
geargolemhave, djm62.  no luck01:00
karljpnick: so kubuntut might, but ubuntu isn't :)01:01
vessuvius81I just switched to linux about a month ago... still have to use windows for some tasks, but I now absolutely hate the windows interface01:01
emokidive opened natd.conf how co i close ports01:01
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nickrudyou know, I hope that old saw about say it, it happens, is false01:01
Simianwhere can i find the .vimrc file01:01
XTCboarderblah01:01
djm62d'oh01:01
vessuvius81Simiana..01:02
vessuvius81sudo updatedb01:02
vessuvius81locate .vimrc01:02
_foxinesscan any one tell me how can i fix broken boot "other linux os with ubuntu" can not boot after install ubuntu01:02
emokidcan i use blackbox with ubuntu? how do install it?01:02
Simianthanks but i tried that and it returned nothing01:02
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Simiandoes that mean that i don't have one01:02
karljpman vim; /vimrc01:02
karljpso try /usr/share/vim/vimrc for the default01:02
Simianthanks :)01:03
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emokidi keep on forgetting how to make an user01:03
emokidadduser?01:03
vessuvius81so back to gentoo... advantages, disadvantages?01:03
Resonantemokid, exactly!01:03
emokidthanks01:03
Resonantif you want to know the other required options, type man adduser01:04
ResonantSome are very useful.01:04
emokidwhats man01:04
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vessuvius81manual01:04
vessuvius81like.. help01:04
emokidoh01:04
ResonantMan shows manual pages for various commands01:04
emokidyea01:04
vessuvius81it helps a lot01:04
vessuvius81sometimes :)01:04
Resonante.g., man bash01:04
nickrudemokid, you should use Systemj->Admin->Users & Groups01:04
emokidis there some step by step guide for ubuntu?01:04
Resonantor man apt-get01:04
emokidlike basic commands01:04
djm62gentoo takes more time, but seems to have a certain, specific breed of very satisfied users01:04
dr_willisubuntuguide.org is handy.01:04
ResonantListen to nickrud, emokid01:04
vessuvius81emokid, ubuntuguide.org01:04
emokidi see01:04
_foxinessall my doc and setting on old "distro" is on /root now am on /home/userxxx what i should not to cp from old one to this new one ?01:04
vessuvius81also, you can always just google ubuntu and your problem01:05
vessuvius81and it will generally come up01:05
nickrudluuv google01:05
nickrudon a fast net connection, anyway01:05
emokidi see01:05
vessuvius81except sometime the answers you get won't work ;-)01:05
nickrudlol01:05
vessuvius81has anyone successfully gotten juicer to rip to mp3?01:06
emokidim not very advanced in linux01:06
emokidso i assume i wont have much troubles since i cant really break it so hard01:06
nickrudemokid, that's ok, that's where we all started :)01:06
vessuvius81you can definitely break it :)01:06
nickrudbut it's only software, so, hey.01:06
emokidi ordered 250 ubuntu cds so i could spread them to my friends01:06
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emokidhave u done it 2?01:06
vessuvius81I ordered 501:07
nickrudI got 10, left nine at the library, all gone in 2 hours01:07
mjr250? You have a lot of friends...01:07
chx_Welcome. When I try to install ftp-ssl, it wants to remove ubuntu-base ... what the HECK?01:07
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emokidill give them to friends, leave some at libraries and stuff01:07
emokidill make sure ubuntu will spread in lithuania!01:07
dazedlol01:07
Marble2when will hoary cd's be out?01:08
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Marble2i ordered 10 more x86 cds01:08
nickrudMarble2, give them 45 days01:08
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Marble2okay, that's not so bad01:08
vessuvius81anyone on mp3's in sound juicer? I get "Reason: Could not create GStreamer encover ((null))01:09
vessuvius81installed lame and liblame01:09
vessuvius81and did the registering01:09
djm62vessuvius81: gstreamer0.8-lame ?01:09
vessuvius81ya01:09
yonerAnyone know how Ubuntu can afford to ship free CDs? Have they been overwhelmed with requests?01:09
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karljpshipping free cds is probably as cheap or cheaper than bandwidth charges :)01:10
karljpmailing a cd doesn't cost much :)01:10
Bazziyoner I think one of the richest men on the world is behind canonical01:10
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vessuvius81gstreamer0.8-lame_0.8.2-2_i386.deb01:10
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Bazzi"rumors say..."01:10
yonerkarljp, you've got a point there...01:10
nickrudkarljp, they'll ship you 250 free if you ask :)01:10
yonerbazzi, maybe it's Bill!01:11
nickrudthat can't be that cheap, even from switzerland01:11
emokidi havent got those cds yet01:11
emokidi ordered them about month ago01:11
emokidand still nothing01:11
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emokidbut i still hope01:11
benplautare linux based PDAs worth it?01:11
Anlarno.01:11
AnlarPalms are.01:11
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djm62benplaut: you mean zaurus or handhelds.org?01:12
nickrudI'll be honest, I forgot I'd ordered them, and when they arrived, couldn't figure out who'd be shipping from swiss land ;)01:12
GammaRaypdas in general are doubtful01:12
emokidhow much did you order nickrud01:12
AnlarI just had Tungsten T3. very polished, great applications, extremely user friendly and very useful. my memory.01:12
dockaneis there any way to speed up the boot time of ubuntu on scsi systems ? i experience much longer boot time because of a delay after "starting ubuntu...." then on ide systems01:12
nickrudjust 1001:12
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dockane*than01:12
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Anlardockane: build your own kernel. most likely it does lots of extra probing?01:12
emokidhow can i give user root privilegies01:13
benplautdjm62: i dunno... i am thinking of getting a PDA and came across some of them. Looking in the ~$300 range01:13
nickrudtook about 1 to 2 months, I can't be sure exactly01:13
emokidin console01:13
emokidmake root user?01:13
nickrudemokid, you don't need a root user.01:13
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emokidee01:13
ircbot_ah good ol' starbucks wireless01:13
emokidbut how can i give other users root01:13
emokidso they could install soft i need01:14
Earthenhow do i make a file executable??01:14
ircbot_supposed to be meeting my ex girlfriend here... she so wants me back now that i have a good job01:14
emokidEarthen, rename it01:14
dockaneAnlar, any recommandations for manuals, tutorials etc ?01:14
Earthenisn't there a command i have to use01:14
Anlardockane: err.. the kernel ships with very extensive documentation actually.01:14
dr_willischmod +x whateverfile01:14
GammaRayircbot_: say you are now homeless and the bag lady won't let go of you01:14
ircbot_haha01:15
ircbot_i'm homeless with a lappy01:15
benplauthmm, thinking torwards a Tungsten C01:15
Earthenthanks01:15
GammaRayicebalm: it's been done01:15
dockaneAnlar, i wonder that that these delay does not exist for ide systems where i installed ubuntu. maybe its just a small switch i have to use01:15
yoneranyone else out there try the live CD on a PPC Mac? It worked great on an old G3 PowerBook (and on this lame PII)01:15
AnlarC is nice as well but imho it's not as ergonomic01:15
vessuvius81I got it to work... I had a wrong character in my config :-/01:15
Anlardockane: as the adapter has been found it most likely probes all the mtus or something like that..01:16
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GammaRayAnlar: now let me quote you out of context in ##c01:16
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dr_willis:)01:17
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Anlarquoting is always fun. remember though that I own perhaps the copyright for what I have said if it is something original in the context and showing me in bad light with it is illegal. but I like the money.01:18
benplautAnlar: I'll keep that in mind... i think i want a keyboard, so it's between that and... (dunno)01:18
Jimmothybash: import: command not found01:18
GammaRaynickrud: don't be lazy like *some* *people*... use a dictionary (-;01:18
benplauti think one Clie has a keyboard01:18
Jimmothyhow do i take a screenshot from terminal without import?01:18
ircbot_why without import?01:18
nickruddict awe, see debian :)01:18
Anlarbenplaut: I learnt the screen typing really fast. it's quite handy actually. and T3/5's on-screen-keyboard is quite big actually too if you enable it.01:18
emokidi doubt if u can do that01:18
nickrudGammaRay, sorry, bad joke, let me off this time :)01:19
Marble2Is there a good standalone application that can mass edit id3 tags (getting album info from freedb would be a plus too...)?01:20
busfahrerHoly cow... is there any drawback to the free CD shipping?01:20
nickrudMarble2, I use easytag01:20
GammaRayMarble2: easytag01:20
Marble2I'm trying easytag right now and I don't like it very well01:20
djm62busfahrer: none whatsoever01:20
ircbot_they seemed to not allow ssh connections from here... punks01:21
busfahrerdjm62: Are they crazy? :-D01:21
nickrudMarble2, the interface kinda sucks, but it does it all01:21
ircbot_hmmm wonder about vnc01:21
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djm62busfahrer: everyone that looks around at the world, then decides to make things /better/ is crazy01:21
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busfahrerdjm62: Since when do they offer this?01:21
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djm62busfahrer: don't know...as long as I've been aware of ubuntu01:22
andrewskicrimsun: mind pasting the list of packages i'd need to downgrade again?  my kernel version was downgraded, but i couldn't start X because the X module was still 7174.01:22
nickrudbusfahrer, since before I knew how to spell it :)01:22
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GammaRaynow where is the pda that is thumb operated and has speech recognition..01:23
nickrudaround the corner?01:23
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djm62GammaRay: ipaq running linux01:24
ircbot_default port for vnc is 5900 right?01:24
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nickruddjm62, really?01:25
djm62nickrud: have one myself...including X01:25
jacobnixsomeone knows how to set external projector to ubuntu PPC01:25
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jacobnixGammaRay: Blind Guardian!!!!!01:26
GammaRayjacobnix: meh01:26
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GammaRaydjm62: so you could navigate to the address book using one thumb and distate the contents of an entry?01:27
GammaRays/distate/dictate/01:27
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jacobnixGammaRay:Shadow Gallery, Ayreon, Dream Theater, Queensryche, Timmo Tolki, Avantasia, Trasatlantic,01:28
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gordonjcpcan anyone tell me how to burn an ISO to CD in Ubuntu?01:28
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GammaRaycan't stand Dream Theater.. Like Queensryche and Avantasia though01:28
gordonjcpI keep getting the following error:01:29
gordonjcpError trying to open /dev/hda exclusively (Device or resource busy)... retrying in 1 second.01:29
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GammaRayindifferent to Trasatlantic and Timmo Tolki01:29
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martinJUST A LITTLE POLL: Do you use Ubuntu or Kubuntu?01:29
ellsis anyone having any issues connecting to LimeWire01:29
GammaRaynever heard or just don't remember the rest (not a good sigh)01:29
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jaco^martin ubuntu of course01:30
dr_willismartin,  i install ubuntu, then intalled the kubuntu packages.01:30
nickrudI must be old, I only recognized Queensryche, and can't name a song :)01:30
jacobnixGammray:uhmmmm :-),01:30
ircbot_woohoo got my vnc working01:30
ellsis anyone having any issues connecting to LimeWire01:30
Anlarells: ask the fbi01:30
ellsAnlar: the fbi?01:31
andrewskihas anyone else successfully downgraded to nvidia 6111?01:31
dr_willis'to limewire' - well isent limewire a gnutella client?01:31
GammaRaynickrud: I'd have to look to name a song myself01:31
dcravenUbuntu here.01:31
jacobnixGammaray: Deicide, Dimmu Borgir, The Gathering, Tiamat, Unleashed, Morgoth, Impaled Nazarene,01:31
nickrudgimme indigo girls01:31
GammaRaywoah.. not a one rings a bell there01:32
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dcravendr_willis, it's a Gnutella client? I didn't know that.01:32
jacobnixGammray: Pink Floyd or Syd Barret01:32
nickrudmartin, ubuntu01:32
dr_willisdcraven,  Im pretty sure it is - its not useing its own special network01:32
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gordonjcphas anyone ever successfully got help from #ubuntu?01:32
dcravendr_willis, yeah you may be right.01:32
GammaRayjacobnix: always kinda liked pink floyd after the nutty guy left :-P01:32
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dcravengordonjcp, not like that they haven't.01:33
GammaRaynickrud: tears for fears here as long as were are cutting against the grain01:33
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dr_willisdcraven,  http://www.gnutelliums.com/01:33
jacobnixGammaray: http://jacob.blogsome.com01:33
nickrudGammaRay, I can live with that, and how about psychedelic furs?01:33
GammaRaynickrud: great band01:34
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nickrudand, my old standby when I'm feeling down, London Calling01:34
optikalI just installed 'linux-image-686-smp' package for my Dual P3/600 box.. is it accurate that if I cat /proc/cpuinfo it only says '1' under Processors?01:34
jacobnixGammray: which band?01:34
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SeeleyUSMCDoes anyone know a way to run Windows programs in Ubuntu?  I want to be able to use Dreamweaver, Flash and Fireworks MX01:34
gordonjcpwell, I can't get this working, and I can't get any sense from the channel01:34
dcravendr_willis, right you are! And that site made a popup in Firefox.. That's discouraging.01:34
gordonjcpSeeleyUSMC: wine01:34
ircbot_SeeleyUSMC: you can use wine01:34
optikalSeeleyUSMC: http://www.winehq.com01:34
dr_willisSeeleyUSMC,  'cedega' 'wine' or similer.01:35
mjrSeeleyUSMC, you may be able to get some working with wine01:35
GammaRayjacobnix: the psychedelic firs01:35
ircbot_cedega costs money though01:35
djm62damn hippies01:35
dr_willisdcraven,  Hmm -  i dident get any popup in my firefox. :P01:35
ircbot_hey don't you make fun of hippies dr_willis01:35
dr_willisdcraven,  I do have adblock extension installed.01:35
ircbot_err djm6201:35
optikalanyone have the clue on my dual proc question?01:35
dcravendr_willis, lucky me. So do I.01:35
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UnLoOpYhttp://redhat.on.nimp.org/undocdflaws01:35
djm62UnLoOpY: don't care...stop spamming01:36
dr_willisUnLoOpY,  but are they not - NOW documented?01:36
dr_willis:P01:36
UnLoOpYNEW! Undocumented RedHat Security Flaws!  INTERNET EXCLUSIVE01:36
UnLoOpYhttp://redhat.on.nimp.org/undocdflaws01:36
dcravendr_willis, I got the "Firefox just blocked a popup..." bar in the browser, but the popup still popped up.. hehe01:36
jacobnixGammray:where are you from?01:36
UnLoOpYNO THEY WERE NEV4R DOCUMENTED BEFORE01:36
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GammaRayjacobnix: the dark side of the moon01:36
UnLoOpYTHE JEWS DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT THEM01:36
UnLoOpYTHE JEWS DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT THEM01:36
UnLoOpYTHE JEWS DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT THEM01:36
UnLoOpYTHE JEWS DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT THEM01:36
UnLoOpYNEW! Undocumented RedHat Security Flaws!  INTERNET EXCLUSIVE01:36
UnLoOpYhttp://redhat.on.nimp.org/undocdflaws01:36
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djm62UnLoOpY: find out what room this is...01:36
optikaloh lord. grow up01:36
GammaRayI always liked the jews01:36
GammaRay:-P01:37
optikalI just installed 'linux-image-686-smp' package for my Dual P3/600 box.. is it accurate that if I cat /proc/cpuinfo it only says '1' under Processors?01:37
djm62somebody get an op...he's either a bot or extremely stupid human01:37
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qkslvrwolf_i'd say bot01:37
qkslvrwolf_if I had to guess01:37
decafoptikal: after reboot, no01:37
djm62qkslvrwolf_: I can no longer tell...humans are getting dumber and bots are getting smarter01:38
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optikaldecaf: yeah, i did reboot.  if i display what kernel im running under, should it be appended by smp, like the package name?01:38
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decafoptikal: it should be01:38
UnLoOpYhttp://redhat.on.nimp.org/undocdflaws01:38
UnLoOpYNEW! Undocumented RedHat Security Flaws!  INTERNET EXCLUSIVE01:38
UnLoOpYhttp://redhat.on.nimp.org/undocdflaws01:38
optikaldecaf: okay, how can i display what kernel im running under? =)01:39
decaf2.6.11-1-k701:39
sebixHi, is there a way to prevent rythmbox from discovering the title/artists from the directories I want to import in my library ? Because the one he doesn't find out, he puts them into an "unknown artists" directory...01:39
BigRobWhat happen to ndiswrapper I swear it use to be in the apt-get now it gone but the module is installed which is wierd01:39
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decafoptikal: that is mine. try uname -a01:39
jacobnixGammray: London?01:39
GammaRayjacobnix: nah.. try again :-D01:39
BigRobsebix, rythmbox goes by the MP3 tag01:39
optikal2.6.10-5-686-smp..01:40
optikalAnd it does detect both processors in bios and upon post.01:40
GammaRayBigRob: would be nice if it had an option to follow a file format01:40
jacobnixGammaray: AbbeRoad Studios?01:40
BigRobalso does anyone know where I can get a deb package of of Netapplet aka Network Manger (redhats name)01:40
SQL_Samhow do you use apt-get chache?01:40
optikaldecaf: any idea what i can check from here? or maybe a document to read up on this?01:40
ircbot_you'd think stressing to someone to not be late... they wouldn't be late01:41
ircbot_she's really lucky i paid for 2 hours of internet01:41
sebixBigRob, rythmbox also fails on .ogg subdirs...01:41
GammaRaysebix: the way I cope is to fill in the id3 tags w/ easytag.. it can create them based on a file name format01:41
GammaRayjacobnix: way off01:41
^vir^tbird, use this mirror for e1701:41
decafoptikal: you should see two same stanzas in /proc/cpuinfo now01:41
^vir^deb http://luddite.atticauthor.info/debian/ unstable/01:41
sebixGammaRay, oh, I need to look at easytag, then01:41
BigRobsebix, to my knowledge rythmbox does not go based on directoris oggs have file tags also01:41
nickrudBigRob, it's called netapplet in ubuntu also01:42
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^vir^brb01:42
decafoptikal: one for "processor 0" and one for "processor 1"01:42
BigRobnickrud i did not see it in synaptic01:42
ircbot_okay in /proc/cpuinfo should it have the speed of my cpu on the cpu mhz line?01:42
nickrudBigRob, it's in the universe repository. Have you done01:43
optikaldecaf: wow.. i feel like a idiot now.. its actually displaying both procs, first proc is Processor: 0, but when it display it, my window is sized perfectly so that i cannot even see 1 line from the first processors info output.01:43
jacobnixGammaRay: doy you now where pink floyd makes tour?01:43
optikaldecaf: thanks for the help tho. =)01:43
nickrudhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:44
GammaRayjacobnix: I think they play the wax museum01:44
decafoptikal: yw. many things start from 0 at unix and C01:44
BigRobnicrud i enabled universe repository01:44
jacobnixGammaray: when?01:44
jacobnixgammray: im from mexico?01:44
optikaldecaf: If you dont mind, one more real fast question.. whats the best cpu load monitoring tool for dual proc? is gdesklets suitable?01:44
optikaldecaf: yeah, thats why i feel like an idiot as well.. i should have realized that fact.01:45
BigRobnicrud I am not using the 5.0 release I am using warty or what ever they are calling it as Debian right now is having issues with my laptop01:45
nickrudBigRob, ;( it's in hoary01:45
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^vir^got e17 to work01:45
^vir^:D01:45
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nickrud^vir^, I looked at that link earlier it does work?01:46
GammaRayjacobnix: don't mean to get your hopes up but.. I was making light of the fact that they are all old timers now01:46
^vir^yeah it does01:46
nickrudis the package gpg signed by someone?01:46
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decafoptikal: :)). I personally dont trust eye candy apps. therefore I dont recommend gdesklets for monitoring. but you should try.01:46
GammaRayjacobnix: http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/reflections/images/ref0028s.jpg01:47
jacobnixgammaray: whattttt?01:47
^vir^nah it ain't nickrud01:47
^vir^not that i know of01:47
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BigRobwhat I cant figure out is what ubuntu is working and Sarge is not01:47
ircbot_shit GammaRay that's creepy01:47
dockanei would like to run bashmark, a small benchmark. there is an ebuild for gentoo and the sources. how do i compile them ? (.cpp and .hpp files)01:48
ircbot_really creepy01:48
optikaldecaf: i just like a visual based graphs of current and previous loads.. and it provides that, so.. i dont know of a better one.  what cpu load monitor do you recommend?01:48
jacobnixgamma: whats mean?01:48
jacobnixgammaray: the pics in tose url01:49
ndlong1hallo, can some one give idea on how ubuntu is better than debian ? i wanna try ubuntu !01:49
qkslvrwolf_you could tyr the live cd ndlong01:49
dr_willisndlong1,  it has cooler people in the #ubuntu channel.01:49
ircbot_ndlong1: updated packages01:49
GammaRayjacobnix: wax heads I assume from a wax museum01:50
nickrudndlong1, ubuntu is not better, ju^W see dr_willis01:50
ircbot_GammaRay: creepy heads from a creepy museum01:50
GammaRayjacobnix: http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/w/w0063500.html01:50
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^vir^nickrud, thats the link i found a e17 deb resp on01:51
ndlong1do we have more stable packages and easy to update than in Debian ?01:51
nickrud^vir^, yeah, but I don't know who the guy is, and I need to know :)01:51
SeeleyUSMCSo if I use Wine, I can run programs I have installed on my Windows partitions?01:52
GammaRaydepends on the app01:52
^vir^nickrud, ask in #e for some deb sources i'm sure they will help01:52
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nickrud^vir^, not a bad suggestion, asking if they know the guy.01:53
GammaRayand if you run ntfs, running apps located on the windows fs is not likely to work01:53
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GammaRaybut it's been a long time since I last used wine...01:53
optikalGammaRay: moreso if the application needs to use the windows registry, or write to the ntfs partition01:54
dr_willisyou normally want to use wine and 'reinstll' all the applcations to your linux system and just transfer the data to/from some windows/fat32 partition.01:54
GammaRaywindows apps usually need to write to their installed dirs and ntfs is ro01:54
optikalhehe01:54
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nickrudthe only win app that ever mattered to me wouldn't work in wine or qemu01:54
optikalnickrud: whats that01:54
dr_willissol.exe01:54
dr_willis:P01:54
GammaRayoptikal: well 2 is better than 101:54
nickrudThomas Guide to California01:54
nickrudoptikal, ^^01:55
^vir^GammaRay, ntfs is ro if you use the kernel driver for ntfs partions01:55
optikalwhich mostly everyone does01:55
optikalbut good point01:55
GammaRayyea.. ironically you can use wine to write to ntfs01:56
timellohey all! which package need I to install to heard a music only passing the mouse on the icon?01:56
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^vir^you can make ntfs read & write using paragon ntfs & i forgot the other way01:56
decafbut we have some better solutions, 'captive' is one of them01:56
timelloto listen I mean01:56
dr_willisare the alternative ways like 'captive' really safe however?01:56
frank__GammaRay, really wo write on ntfs? I'm not so sure, never heard of that01:56
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^vir^captive isn't as good as paragon ntfs01:57
SeeleyUSMCI have windows on a FAT so I can write to it01:57
GammaRaydr_willis: captive that dr_willis mentioned uses wine01:57
GammaRayerr oops01:57
frank__dr_willis, apparently captive works but not with a x86_64 kernel01:57
nickrudoptikal, it installs fine to qemu, but fails on the cd, both direct and as a loop device01:57
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dockanewhich packet contains g++ ?01:57
optikalnickrud: refresh me, whats sol.exe?01:57
dr_willisits still safest - to reinstall the apps with wine. and transfer data. :O it'd would really SUCK if wine some how trashed your windows drive.01:58
dr_willissol.exe = the windows solitare game.01:58
decafdr_willis: works for me, but I don't have any important data on ntfs partition.so dont care01:58
optikalooh.. hehe jes.. thats right.01:58
nickrudwrong guy, that was dr_willis for sol.exe, I want the Thomas Guide01:58
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dr_willis:)01:58
optikal=P01:58
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timelloDr_Acemaster, which package need I to install to listen music only passing the mouse on the icon (Gnome)? Do you know?01:59
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tsume_gnaa == stupid people :)02:02
emokidyes!! are they flooding you too!?02:02
emokidthey keep on hitting #gentoo02:02
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emokidmass inviting and private flooding02:02
GammaRayyou know pablo picasso was never called an asshole02:02
tsume_emokid: nah, I'm just know they are kids at the age of 7 years old02:02
nickrudGammaRay, he did have girlfriends :)02:03
tsume_emokid: basic loosers who are poor02:03
Anlargammaray: perhaps he WAS02:03
TwiggyMonet was02:03
tsume_emokid: they don't bother me, they are just wasting thier own time ;)02:03
emokidyea!!02:03
GammaRayAnlar: not in new york02:03
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redlynhi02:05
nickrud^vir^, could you give me that link again? Want to ask in #e02:05
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^vir^sure02:06
nickrudthk02:06
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^vir^nickrud, http://shadoi.soulmachine.net/02:08
nickrudthanks ^vir^02:09
^vir^no prob02:09
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nickrud^vir^, this wasn't the link I remember, this one I think I can trust :)02:12
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^vir^the link i first showed was off of that page which i found using google :)02:15
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revelaterhey, for some reason synaptic isn't letting me change the repositorys02:18
revelateranyone know why?02:19
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revelater???02:19
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revelater????????????02:20
GatsuBhello02:20
revelaterhi02:20
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GatsuBcan i ask a question?02:20
revelaterwe seem to be the only people alive here... i will help if i can02:21
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nickrudanytime, we just don't promise to have the answers :)02:21
GatsuBi have mounted a fat32 fs with this line in fstab: /dev/hda5/mnt/caskavfat    rw,umask=0   0       002:21
fejaorI have problems trying to install the plug in from HOWTO: Embed PDFs with Evince in Mozilla/Firefox02:21
rodrigo_-_22hi. i need to do a full backup of my home directory on a remote server, but i don't have enough space left on my hd to create a tar file and then upload it to the remote server. is there any tool i can use to make the remote backup without creating a huge file on my computer?02:21
fejaorI have this message02:21
fejaorfejaor@fejaor:/etc$ sudo gedit /etc/mozpluggerrc02:22
fejaorsudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 044002:22
fejaoranyone?02:22
mainerrodrigo: use rsync or ftp02:22
optikalfejaor: man chmod02:22
GatsuBthe partition is not writeable02:23
GatsuBonly read02:23
fejaorneed the exact command02:23
revelaterfejaor: just: sudo chmod 0440 /directory/to/file02:24
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optikalfejaor: it'll do you better to read up.. dont be scared to learn what your doing02:24
nickrudfejaor, one more total freebie: chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers02:24
nickrudand I hope no one needs to correct me :)02:25
revelaternickrud: any reason why synaptic wouldn't feel like recording a change of repositories?02:25
nickrudthat's a wierd one02:25
nickrudhow about starting with an ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list02:25
revelaternickrud: your telling me... is tehre a max number of repos?02:25
nickrudrevelater, no, no limits02:25
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fejaorIt didn't allowed me to do that change...02:26
revelater-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1089 2005-04-23 17:18 /etc/apt/sources.list02:26
optikalfejaor: try sudo or su.02:26
optikalfejaor: you need to run it as root02:26
nickrudfejaor, anything that is done outside of /home/<your user name> must be preceeded by sudo02:27
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brundleFlyhowdy02:27
fejaorsudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 044002:27
fejaorYou have new mail in /var/mail/fejaor02:27
fejaorthat's what I goy02:27
fejaorgot02:27
optikalfejaor: do you know how to su or sudo?02:27
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nickrudrevelater, do you mind private chat so we don't get in these other guys way?02:27
fejaorthat's after sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers02:27
revelaternickrud, hmm, ok but how?02:28
revelaternickrud: i am new to this command line chat thing...02:28
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fejaoryes and I did it....02:28
nickrudrevelater, I don't have a clue about command line chat, I use xchat :)02:29
optikalfejaor: paste from your first error to your current prompt at a PASTE BIN site only, not in channel02:29
revelaternickrud.... k so should we make our own chatroom or what?02:29
fejaorwebsite?02:29
nickrudyeah, and would some kind soul take pity on us and tell us the command?02:29
optikalrevelater: what client?02:30
optikalfejaor: http://paste.anitox.org02:30
revelaterirssi02:30
optikali believe its alt+1 alt+2 alt+302:30
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optikalor /window 1, /window 2 /window 302:30
revelateroptikal, for private chatting?02:30
limeranyone have a suggestion for good variant of mame for ubuntu?02:31
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thegreedyturtlelimer: what are you using it for?02:31
limersfa302:31
optikalrevelater: to switch between your status screen (1) your first channel joined (2) and so forth.  for example, if you joined 1 channel and had 1 pm convo, and you joined the channel before the pm convo started, 1 would be status 2 would be channel and 3 would be pm convo for that specific nick02:31
thegreedyturtleexpand plz02:31
limerstreet fighter alpha 302:32
fejaordone optikal02:32
optikalgive me the link of it now02:32
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limerI know of xmame, just didn't know if ppl thought gmame or whatever may be better02:32
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thegreedyturtleheh, well in a twist of irony, you've got ubuntu, which stands for 'humanity to others' and you are trying to merge it succesfully with 'street fighter'02:33
thegreedyturtleit can be done, but you'll need some ingenuity!02:33
limeryes, true.  my fist will unify with their face.  I don't see the problem02:33
Jimmothyanyone know how to take a screenshot with the terminal in ubuntu? import doesn't work02:33
thegreedyturtlehahah02:33
limer:P02:33
thegreedyturtlei wonder if there's a word for 'humanity for some, asswhoop for others'02:34
limeranother oxymoron might be "Ubuntu kicks ass!"02:34
thegreedyturtleor maybe 'inhumanity for all'02:34
limerwhich it most certainly does02:34
optikalfejaor: okay, you have to login with su to chmod sudoers from 777 to 44002:34
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thegreedyturtlethe easy choice would be 'street fighter ubuntu 3'02:35
fejaorfrom the root terminal?02:35
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LevanderWhen I'm at the grub menu during boot, how do I get to the grub prompt?02:35
optikalfejaor: have you setup a password yet for root?02:35
limerIf Ken and Ryu used linux (which I think we all know they do) . . . it would be ubuntu02:35
limermaybe M. Bison would be the odd Windoze world domination guy02:35
optikalThats got to be the gayest thing i've ever heard.02:35
gfxstylerLevander: escape?02:36
fejaorwhat do you mean?02:36
Levandergfxstyler: okay, I'm about to try it!02:36
Levandergotta reboot from the live cd...02:36
thegreedyturtleGuile would use Fedora, Ken and Ryu would use Debian, and Chun-Li would use Ubuntu02:36
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thegreedyturtlelesse, Suse is european so...02:36
limerso long as she does a spread for a wall, I'd be happy02:37
thegreedyturtleXD02:37
gfxstylerLevander: i dont know if livecd has a grub menu, but with hd install there is a "press ESC for blablabla"02:37
thegreedyturtleone of those downward 'holding hands in a circle' shots02:37
thegreedyturtleyou know, someone could make some hilarious fan art with that theme02:37
limersure, she should join with Cammy or maybe the DOA girls02:37
fejaorhow can I do that change from 777 to 440??02:37
optikalfejaor: type 'sudo passwd root' and then if sudo asks for your password, enters yours.. then when asked for another password (and verifiy) type in a different, preferably a different password than your user account (security purposes).  once you so that, type su, then enter the password you created in the previous step.  then type your chmod command as you have stated in the pastebin.02:38
yoneris anyone here using Ubuntu for server applications (e.g. web, file, database)?02:38
thegreedyturtledoes anyone know if there's a graphical clipboard tool for gnome-clipboard-daemon (similar to Klipper?)02:38
gfxstylerfejaor: open a terminal and type sudo chmod 440 where you want it02:38
Levandergfxstyler: i was booted in the live cd, had to reboot back into my regular system.  But, yeah, apparently the menu tells you to hit 'c' to get to a prompt02:39
fejaoroptikal.....I typed sudo passwd root and the same message appeared02:39
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optikaler yeah.02:40
optikaltype su<enter>02:40
gfxstylerfejaor: i guess u dont need to give su a passwd, why not use sudo?02:40
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limerxclipboard?02:41
optikalgfxstyler: he cannot use sudo because sudoers is 777, and if its 777 no one can sudo02:41
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fejaorfejaor@fejaor:~$ sudo chmod 440 /etc/sudoers02:41
fejaorsudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 044002:41
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optikaltype su<enter>02:41
gfxstyleroptikal: didnt know what he wants to to with chmod02:41
limerthegreedyturtle: apropos clip    = xclipboard02:41
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optikalfejaor: what does 'su' return? a password prompt or ?02:42
thegreedyturtlelimer: what is apropos?02:42
nickrudrevelater, did you flood that private chat :)02:42
limersearches the first line of man pages for whatever your search string is02:42
limerman apropos02:42
fejaorpassword prompt02:42
nickrudfirst time I've been kicked02:42
jubeiHello. Does anyone here know anything about evdev mouse input?02:43
optikalfejaor: enter your root password02:43
gfxstyleranyone knows how long the hoary cds will take to get shipped to me? i ordered them a few weeks ago .. too bad02:43
fejaorsu: Authentication failure02:43
fejaorYou have new mail in /var/mail/fejaor02:43
fejaorafter entering the password02:43
optikalfejaor: fejaor wrong password.  try the other one or type it correctly02:43
optikal-*fejahor02:43
fejaori tried the only pass I have02:44
fejaor:S02:44
optikalwhos the system administrator of this box?02:44
fejaorI am02:45
jggfxstyler: bittorrent is your friend...02:45
revelaterknickrud, no i posted in #flood02:45
lunitikfejaor: where and how did you get the prompt?02:45
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revelaternickrun...02:45
revelaternickrud02:45
revelaterfingers will not work today02:45
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nickrudrevelater, ok, I got disconnected for some reason, but I'm baaack02:45
fejaor-*lunitik: trying to type su02:45
gfxstylerjg: no thats not the point, i want a nice cd :) i already loaded it via net02:45
lunitikfejaor: type 'sudo'02:45
fejaorfejaor@fejaor:~$ sudo02:46
fejaorsudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 044002:46
fejaorYou have new mail in /var/mail/fejaor02:46
lunitikfejaor: 'sudo -i' is the same as 'su -'02:46
fejaorfejaor@fejaor:~$ sudo -i02:46
fejaorsudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 044002:46
revelaternickrud, well, problem not solved, but i got a workaround that should do the same thing, i just manually added the line i needed02:46
lunitikfejaor: yeah... thats bad02:46
optikalhehe yah02:46
lunitikfejaor: although there is no reason it would have those perms02:46
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nickrudwhat works, works.02:47
lunitiknickrud: but its not working...02:47
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fejaor:S02:47
nickrudlunitik, yes it is, it's just too dark.02:47
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XTCboarderhas anybody tried F4L?02:47
lunitiknickrud: wtf are you talking about?02:48
nickrudlunitik, sorry, I think we're talking about different things02:48
fejaorany solution??02:48
nickrudfejaor, have you edited /etc/sudoers?02:49
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fejaoryes02:50
nickrudthat's a no no, unless you use visudoers02:50
fejaorto install firestarter02:51
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Marble2crap. I just removed the trash Icon from the bottom right of my desktop. How do I get it back02:52
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Marble2anyone?02:54
atoolright click on menubar02:54
atoolchoose add to panel02:54
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atoolthen scroll down to the trash applet02:55
Marble2that only works for the one at the to02:55
Marble2*top02:55
Marble2I mean bottom right corner.02:55
atool?02:55
Marble2nvm, that worked02:56
Marble2thanks02:56
atoolyou can't move it to the bottom?02:56
Marble2yea, I moved it02:56
atool:)02:56
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Marble2okay, now why did 2 little drive icons just show up on my desktop?02:56
atooldunno02:57
fevelcan someone help me to share files02:57
bigmatthas anybody gotten cvscedega to work properly?02:57
nickrudA question: if sudo chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers comes back with sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440 and there is no root account, is a recovery possilbe?02:57
feveli pinged my connection and its fine02:57
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SeeleyUSMCDoes anyone know where the doc_root is defaultly for apache web server in ubuntu?02:58
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atooldoes "locate html | grep apache" give you any ideas?02:59
abiertoshello02:59
abiertosmy name is Ernesto02:59
abiertosI have a problem02:59
abiertosI lost my root password03:00
abiertosand Im not in a sudoers group03:00
lunitikabiertos: restart, boot into 'rescue mode' and add yourself03:00
Marble2 I have 2 icons on my desktop that point to drive's that I have mounted, they just randomly showed up, how do I remove them? In the right click menu, move to trash is whited out03:00
abiertosI need to now how I can to recovery my root password without install again03:00
strugglerHi, I'm using the default kernel 2.6.10.5 on Hoary. Would someone please tell me how to turn on NLS?03:00
lunitikMarble2: eject the media03:01
lunitikMarble2: or take away that function from g-v-m03:01
Marble2g-v-m ?03:01
abiertosI don't need to be a root?03:01
lunitikgnome-volume-manager03:01
Marble2well it's always been mounted before without the icons showing up03:01
lunitikabiertos: to do that, no03:01
abiertosok03:01
lunitikabiertos: rescue mode is single user03:01
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abiertosI need the ubuntu cd03:02
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lunitikMarble2: in gnome 2.10?03:02
abiertosfor to do that?03:02
lunitikabiertos: just do what I told you03:02
Marble2mm03:02
Marble2greg@Greg:~ $ /usr/bin/gdm --version03:02
Marble2GDM 2.6.0.703:02
stuNNedis there a way to have gnome on f7 and kde on f8?03:02
stuNNedw/out gdm?03:02
stuNNedor kdm for that matter?03:02
atoolabiertos, i think it's one of the grub boot options03:02
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abiertosI just restart in rescue mode and nothing more03:03
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dr_willisyou can start several X sessions if you want and make them run eithe rone..03:03
abiertosok03:03
lunitikatool: it is03:03
abiertosIm gonna do that now03:03
abiertosbye03:03
strugglerAnyone know how to turn on NLS in Hoary?03:03
dr_willisor you could use vnc and have  a desktop in a 'window' or use the xnest for similer feature03:03
Marble2anyone?03:03
strugglerAnyone who would be willing to share.03:04
qkslvrwolf_just out of curiousity...what is nls?03:05
qkslvrwolf_and how do I change my bleeding color in xchat?03:05
strugglerInternationalization support03:05
qkslvrwolf_ahh, ok03:05
qkslvrwolf_thanks.  sorry I can't help03:05
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strugglerthanks anyway03:05
lunitikstruggler: what language do you need?03:05
strugglerI have the default locales.03:06
lunitikstruggler: thats not what I asked03:06
Agrajagqkslvrwolf_: setting>preferences>colors03:06
strugglerI disabled it originally03:06
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strugglerand now need to turn it back on03:06
lunitikstruggler: cool... answer my question03:06
strugglerto do some testing03:06
strugglerGerman03:06
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lunitikstruggler: apt-get install language-support-de lang-pack-de03:07
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strugglerthank you03:07
lunitikstruggler: apt-get install language-support-de language-pack-de03:08
qkslvrwolf_test03:08
qkslvrwolf_hrm03:08
strugglerlunitik: thank you very much03:08
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qkslvrwolf_test03:08
karljphow come debian apt-repos have subversion 1.1.4 and ubuntu hoary main only has 1.1.1?03:08
abiertoshello it's me again03:09
abiertosLunitik03:09
nickrudkarljp, cuz ubuntu is frozen :)03:09
abiertosI done like you told me03:09
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karljpfrozen two weeks ago though03:09
karljpok, I guess svn could have made three releases this month :)03:09
abiertosthe system beg me the root password03:10
abiertosfor maintenance03:10
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lunitikabiertos: followed correct format? 'abiertos ALL [ALL] '?03:10
abiertos?03:10
qkslvrwolf_check03:10
nickrudkarljp, probably not, more likely  ubuntu just fell behind :)03:10
lunitikabiertos: then you didn't do what I told you...03:10
abiertoswhat the hell is that03:10
lunitikit doesn't prompt for a password in rescue mode03:10
abiertoswhere I have to put that?03:11
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lunitikabiertos: how did you do what I told you ... and not know how 5 mins later?03:11
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abiertosremember that I don't have permission for that file03:11
lunitikabiertos: in single user... you are root... so you have perms03:12
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abiertosI have to edit the kernel image before the grub loads03:12
abiertos?03:12
DnatasI just inserted my ps2 mouse and for whatever reason X can't find it this is going from having a usb mouse to using a ps2 one..03:12
Dnatasdo I need a module installed?03:12
Dnataseven after a reboot it isn't working although it works in windows..03:12
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abiertosand where is written 'ro quiet single'03:13
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abiertosput abiertos ALL [ALL] 03:13
nickrudDnatas, your xorg.conf needs to be redone.03:13
abiertosand lunitik?03:13
lunitikabiertos: ffs... when it says 'press ESC when prompted' do it... select rescue mode ... and hit enter... then vi /etc/sudoers ... add 'abiertos ALL [ALL] ' to that file... save via :wq! ,,, reboot03:13
abiertosok03:14
abiertosI know that03:14
abiertosI have other question03:14
SeeleyUSMCAre there any good PHP IDE's out there?03:14
abiertos?03:14
atoolecplise probably has some php plugins03:15
abiertoshow you know that the user abiertos is the default system user of my system?03:15
nickrudwhen you get to the login screen, hit ctl alt F1, login, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, hit ctl alt f7, and try again03:15
lunitikabiertos: /whois abiertos   :/03:15
abiertosok03:16
abiertoscan you hack me and change my root password?03:16
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abiertosfor me03:16
abiertos?03:16
Agrajagahahahahhaha03:16
lunitikactually, I was just guessing though... doesn't matter what the user is... put the right user03:16
atoolhehe03:16
abiertosok03:16
nickrudif I knew what I was doing ...03:16
lunitikabiertos: if I could... I would have... less frustrating03:16
abiertosif it fails I'll be back03:17
resiakI have a buggered-up file on my XFS / partition. Any operation upon the file (including stat) gives the useful error "Unknown error 990". Sadly, this file is part of pppeoconf, which has a new version happily wanting to replace said file, but dpkg fails since it can't touch this file. touch /forcefsck is useless, since fsck.xfs simply returns true. I need to run xfs_repair on the filesystem, but cannot since the filesystem must03:17
abiertosbye, again03:17
Zugotanyone here using lvm?03:17
lunitikmorons should be shot on sight03:17
nickrudresiak, breezy?03:17
LinuxJoneslunitik, what does that mean ?03:18
lunitikLinuxJones: exactly what I said03:18
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LinuxJoneslunitik, dude maybe he hasn't been using Linux for very long03:18
resiaknickrud: It's not a package error, it's because I had some really bad ram. All kinds of stuff got screwed...03:18
lunitikLinuxJones: no excuse for simply not comprehending03:19
atoolbesides you're the one that told him to use vi and not visudo03:19
nickrudhardware failure = reinstall, almost always, unless you're a guru03:19
atool:)03:19
lunitikatool: visudo = vi /etc/sudoers  :/03:19
LinuxJoneslunitik, well maybe his English is not very good or he's like 11 years old :D03:19
atool"visudo edits the sudoers file in a safe fashion,"03:19
paulproteuslunitik: Not true.  visudo does syntax checks.03:19
nickrudvisudo saved my ass more than once03:20
lunitikpaulproteus: I gave him correct syntax... imma do a happy dance if he manages to fuck that up03:20
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nickrudlunitik, how old do you think he was?03:20
resiaknickrud: In this context, I am sufficiently guruish. I fixed /var/lib/dpkg/available by hand, among other things.03:20
nickrudresiak, more guru than I :)03:21
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nickrudI will have good thoughts for you03:21
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flex_does ubuntu have a font installer?03:22
lunitikflex_: throw them in /usr/share/fonts ... or fonts://03:22
GammaRayput them in ~/.fonts03:22
GoneBoBfonts://03:23
nickrudflex_, just drop the ttf in ~/.icons, that's your installer03:23
GammaRay.icons?03:23
resiaknickrud: My current schemes involve resizing my /boot to make space for a very small partition into which I can chroot and debootstrap just enough to have an sshd and the xfs tools, whereupon I set grub to boot that next, reboot, cross fingers, be happy.03:23
nickrudGammaRay, I'm a dufe often :)03:23
nickrudresiak, I understood enough of that to just scare myself.03:24
GoneBoBnickrud: even if you can fix it, often a reinstall is faster/easier03:24
GammaRayfonts:// is nice. it has previews AFAIK03:24
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abiertoslunitik03:24
GammaRaybut so does any ttf AFAIK03:24
abiertosI told ya, I told ya and I told ya03:24
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nickrudGammaRay, just the Aa, which sucks03:24
GammaRayGammaRay: shutup!03:24
abiertosit doesnt work03:25
resiakGoneBoB: You meant to aim that at me. No, it's not faster in this case.03:25
lunitikabiertos: you told me what? I have done that like 3 times so far with Ubuntu... don't tell me I'm wrong because you're incompetent03:25
GammaRaynickrud: there is a font viewer that shows more03:25
abiertosthe system is telling me this:03:25
GoneBoBresiak: not overly, it was just a general statement03:25
abiertos"Give a root password for maintenance"03:25
abiertosI told ya03:26
resiakGoneBoB: Fair enough.03:26
abiertoswhat can I do now03:26
GammaRayand yes I did just tell myself to shut it03:26
abiertosIm lost03:26
GammaRayi'm nuts03:26
LinuxJonesabiertos, what are you trying to do ?03:26
abiertosI will have to install again03:26
abiertoshack my own root03:27
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abiertospassword03:27
resiakabiertos: init=/bin/sh03:27
theBishopis anyone running the mac version of Ubuntu?03:27
LinuxJonesabiertos, leave the root account disabled and use sudo03:27
GammaRayor single user mode03:27
abiertosI put disable sudo03:27
abiertosthis is the proble03:27
abiertosproblem03:27
resiakabiertos: To expand on that, append init=/bin/sh to your boot line, boot up, mount your root fs rw, visudo, reboot.03:27
nickrudabiertos, listen to resiak03:27
abiertosother people use my computer03:27
abiertosI forgot my root password03:28
strugglertheBishop: yes03:28
LinuxJonesabiertos, re-install takes 25 minutes, don't forget your password :D03:28
resiakabiertos: Then append init=/bin/sh to your boot line, boot up, mount your root fs, run passwd, reboot03:28
theBishopstruggler: i'm gonna be running it on a 500Mhz G3 iMac03:28
theBishopis the performance bad?03:28
abiertoslunitik tolds me something about restart the computer and use the single user mode but doesn't work03:28
resiakWill people please stop advocating reinstalls when fixing the problem is trivial?03:28
resiakabiertos: I just told you how to get around that.03:28
strugglerlots faster than OS X or OS 9, it is reasonable on a G3/30003:29
Zugotwhere is lvm in hoary?03:29
theBishopthe main reason i'm installing it is because OSX is a bit sluggish03:29
theBishopi wonder if i should use a KDE distro instead03:29
abiertosI had never see it that line in the kernel image03:29
LinuxJonesresiak, who knows what he has done to his system ?03:29
theBishopi love Ubuntu on my PC, but Gnome tends to be slower for me03:29
abiertoswhere is that?03:29
GammaRaytheBishop: try kubuntu03:29
resiakLinuxJones: He's forgotten his root password.03:29
resiakLinuxJones: This is the canonical way to fix that.03:30
strugglertheBishop gui stuff is a little sluggish, but better than OS X, and it doesn't need as much memory03:30
abiertosI had restarted my system three times03:30
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resiakabiertos: At the Grub menu, hit the key to edit the boot commands. Go to the kernel line, and append init=/bin/sh to that line03:30
LinuxJonesresiak, whatever :)03:30
GammaRayhowever.. gtk is certainly quicker on old computers than qt imho03:30
lunitikresiak: no... what I told him is the 'canonical way' ... but apparently he can't figure out what I said... rescue mode is what he wants... it doesn't prompt for a password in hoary... this I know for a fact...03:30
abiertosI have to add that line03:30
abiertosto the kernel image03:31
GammaRayand I do mean gtk203:31
theBishopgamma: you think so?03:31
resiaklunitik: He's _enabled_root_.03:31
abiertos?03:31
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lunitikresiak: then it is certainly not the canonical way.... but uhh... since when did you need a password for single user?03:31
resiaklunitik: Since he gave root a password.03:31
GammaRaytheBishop: It not by much but try running opera (plain QT) and compare it to gtk2 apps on a k6 266.03:32
resiaklunitik: That's what happens all the time on Debian -- I presume that on Ubuntu once you give root a password the same applies. I've never done it myself. Anyway, init=/bin/sh is the canonical way to evade a forgotten root password, which is the situation here.03:32
lunitikresiak: single user on a Debian system doesn't need a root password  :/03:32
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resiaklunitik: You're 100% wrong.03:32
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wjesusaxlguys help me with this little matter03:32
lunitikresiak: ok... my bad... I only ran Debian for 4 years... what do I know  :/03:33
wjesusaxlroot@wjesusaxllap:/home/wjesusaxl # mount compu:/mnt/win2003 /mnt/disk103:33
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wjesusaxlmount: RPC: Program not registered03:33
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wjesusaxlount: RPC: Program not registered03:33
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resiaklunitik: *shrug* All I know is that single _definitely_ requires the root password on Debian.03:33
abiertosif you don't know I understand I finding my Ubuntu install CD03:33
wjesusaxlmount: RPC: Program not registered03:33
resiakabiertos: I didn't see you address me. Please prefix what you say to me with my name so I can see it.03:34
wjesusaxlany help with this : mount: RPC: Program not registered03:34
abiertosyou want my ip03:34
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resiakabiertos: Of course not.03:34
abiertosand what you want?03:34
resiakabiertos: You have to reboot, then press the appropriate key to edit the boot commands (it says at the bottom of the screen). Then add init=/bin/sh to the kernel line, then press b to boot. You can then mount your root fs read-write, and use passwd to change your password.03:35
abiertosmy email?03:35
resiakabiertos: Try reading what I tell you.03:35
karljphe wants you to say resiak: stuff03:35
karljpnot just stuff03:35
abiertosok03:35
Kamping_Kaiserhow can i tell whats using my net conection?03:35
abiertosI got it03:35
karljpabie: I take it you don't use english as a first language?03:35
LinuxJonesKamping_Kaiser, you mean what services your running ?03:35
abiertosI just to add that to the kernel image and I have no to erase nothing03:36
abiertos?03:36
Kamping_Kaiserwhat services etc are using my internet connection. its just been used a lot, and i dont know wtf was using it03:36
LinuxJonesKamping_Kaiser, there are a few things you can use netstat or lsof -i will show you what services are listning on your system03:37
wjesusaxlmount: RPC: Program not registered03:37
Kamping_Kaisercool. thanks03:37
wjesusaxlDoes anybody know how to solve this problem? mount: RPC: Program not registered03:37
bob2wjesusaxl: you don't need to keep asking03:38
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bob2wjesusaxl: once is plenty03:38
abiertosbye03:38
resiakabiertos: I really can't make it any more straightforward, I'm afraid. You press the appropriate key to edit the boot commands. You then use the up-down arrows to move to the line starting with the word "kernel", and press e. Then add a space and "init=/bin/sh" (without quotes) to that line, and press esc. Then press b to boot the system. Now you get a root shell. Remount your / partition read-write (mount -o remount,rw /) and 03:38
nickrudluck abiertos03:38
abiertosok03:38
abiertosthanks03:38
bob2wjesusaxl: did you install portmap? search the ubuntu website? etc.03:39
resiak*sigh* I hope he gets that.03:39
nickrudgood instructions, I'll remembe them :)03:39
resiaknickrud: *shrug* It's not that hard. The critical thing is remembering that you can use /bin/sh as init :)03:40
nickrudyeah, I actually knew that once, but damned if I'd remember when it counts.03:40
resiaknickrud: And _this_ is why you should set a grub password. Of course, you can just boot a livecd to evade grub, so you need a bios password too. But then you can just open the case and reset the bios password, so you need to weld your case shut :)03:40
nickrudlnx-bbc, my savior :)03:40
wjesusaxlI did it already03:41
wjesusaxlbob2: I did it already03:41
resiakWhat's the deal with people here not doing the whole nick: prefix thing? It's really annoying!03:41
bob2wjesusaxl: you read the documentation on ubuntu.com?03:41
wjesusaxlyah I did03:41
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wjesusaxlwhen I restart nfs-kernel03:41
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nickrudresiak, yeah, it's more conversational here, I think. You're not the first to mention it03:42
wjesusaxlit recognizes the folder which the server is exporting03:42
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Kamping_Kaiserhas anyone else had the problem of sata harddrives not mounting on boot up?03:42
wjesusaxlbob2: I got some problem with the permissions03:42
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bob2wjesusaxl: but you're not going to tell us what that problem is?03:43
bob2Kamping_Kaiser: do you have them in /etc/fstab?03:43
Kamping_Kaiseryes03:43
Kamping_Kaiseri can mount them with "mount -a"03:43
Kamping_Kaiserbut they dont happen at boot03:43
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wjesusaxlwhat do you mean? I followed what the instruction said step by step03:44
eos|Amok2where can i find a partition manager?03:44
hypnoeos|Amok2: cfdisk is one03:44
resiaknickrud: It's annoying, since I was trying really hard to help out abiertos, but it was difficult when he wasn't addressing me. And I'm not watching the channel constantly (I've got my own problems to fix) so I didn't see any of his follow-up questions.03:45
eos|Amok2i need a partition manager to resize a partition but for Windows03:45
eos|Amok2if anyone knows03:45
Marble2partition magic03:46
resiakeos|Amok2: Partition Magic. Go buy. :)03:46
Marble2it's not freeware, but it's about your only choice03:46
nickrudresiak, I'm new to irc, not new to debian, though, as a user. A lot of people who come here for questions don't know >anything<03:46
eos|Amok2aww03:46
eos|Amok2i need one for free03:46
bob2sorry, you'll have to pay03:46
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wjesusaxlbob2: hey.. there might be someone who had the same problem once and got a tip.. so why don't you just stop writing and let someone else help me out03:46
bob2sucks to be on a proprietary platform ;)03:46
resiaknickrud: Sure. I picked it up after like 2 minutes on IRC, though.03:47
bob2wjesusaxl: why don't you tell us the actual problem03:47
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wjesusaxlmount: RPC: Program not registered03:47
bob2wjesusaxl: instead of alluding to a "permission problem"03:47
wjesusaxlthat's what I got03:47
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wjesusaxlthat's the error message that shows up03:47
super_dude2help when i goto acsses my computer (ubuntu) the windows asks for a pass which i dont know and havent set myself03:47
wjesusaxlI don't know if it's a general problem...03:47
nickrudso did I, but I bet the guy was young, and doesn't have a lot of experience to compare against.03:47
wjesusaxlbut I did install the portmap...03:48
nickrudresiak, ^^ :)03:48
wjesusaxlI did read what the instructions said..03:48
resiaknickrud: How old are you?03:48
nickrud49 two days ago03:48
resiaknickrud: Whee, I'm under half your age :P03:48
karljplots of people are.03:49
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nickrudkarljp, resiak more than half the people in the world are younger than I (and someday you'll get to say the same :)03:49
Kamping_Kaiserlol03:49
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resiaknickrud: I'm not saying that in a bad way, don't get me wrong. At this point I do the "joy of IRC, uniting people regardless of age" dance.03:50
super_dude2when i use my netowork to acsses my computer running ubuntu from my windows it asks for a pass what is it i have tried all of mine03:50
nickrudresiak, I concur.03:50
hypnosuper_dude2: have you tried entering a blank password?03:50
nickrudFirst Irc was 1 week ago, today03:50
super_dude2yes03:50
karljpirc is l33t03:51
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hypnois this with samba?03:51
super_dude2yes03:51
wjesusaxlany clue with this error message? ount: RPC: Program not registered03:51
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nickrudIf it matters, first debian install was may 19, 2001 :)03:51
oolonhowdy just trying out kubuntu03:52
Kamping_Kaiserthats before woody was released03:52
super_dude2if i do properties on the network folder thing it says that owner is root and its set so i cant use the folder from my own computer03:52
nickrudKamping_Kaiser, yes, but I never ran woody. woody boot floppies straight to unstable. I'm a self-flagellator03:53
qkslvrwolfwhats up oolon03:54
qkslvrwolfenjoying your kubuntu?03:54
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oolonit's nice so far i gotta try it with my ati card though03:55
resiakIf anyone can think of a more elegant/sane way to run xfs_repair on my root partition over ssh than by debootstrapping just enough of Debian to have sshd and xfs_repair onto a spare partition then booting from that one, speak up now. :)03:55
oolonlooks like they have a river for it03:55
nickrudoolon, have you looked at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ? Good place to start03:55
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nickrudresiak, yeah, have the remote sysadmin do it :)03:56
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Levande1Does anybody dare to run apt-get upgrade from cron?03:56
nickrudLevande1, no.03:56
resiaknickrud: I am the remote sysadmin -- I'm at uni, it's at home! :(03:57
Kamping_Kaiser:(03:57
nickrudLevande1, never install updates you don't supervise03:57
Levande1Everybody does it under Windows with Window Update03:57
Kamping_Kaisermore shame to them03:57
nickrudLevande1, ever, nuff said03:57
Kamping_Kaiserbut i know what you mean03:57
Chipzznickrud: that is /your/ point of view03:58
bob2Levande1: people on windows have lower standards for stability03:58
nickrudChipzz, true03:58
bob2Levande1: I'd strongly recommend not doing it from cron03:58
tsume_Levande1: always manual updates ;)03:58
ChipzzI might do it, but I run apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade -y each evening myself03:58
super_dude2when i use my netowork to acsses my computer running ubuntu from my windows it asks for a pass what is it i have tried all of mine?03:58
oolonnickrud, thanks for the link03:58
Levande1I fought running Windows Update for a long time, till I realized I never do it manually.  After I did it automatically, was like "wow, this is nice, one less thing in my head".03:58
bob2Levande1: running 'apt-get -d dist-upgrade' from cron can be useful03:58
tsume_Levande1: linux isn't windows03:58
bob2Levande1: so when you run 'apt-get dist-upgrade', nothing needs to download03:58
bob2super_dude2: did you tell wwindows to use the correct username?03:59
nickrudChipzz, so you supervise the install then? gotcha03:59
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tsume_Levande1: updates are not just security based, they are feature and software based03:59
dan2whats kubuntu?03:59
Chipzznickrud: I would strongly suggest not to run apt-get dist-upgrade -y from cron03:59
Levande1yeah, I think i'll hold off on doing it in cron for now03:59
Chipzznickrud: no, do NOT got me03:59
Levande1thanks guys!03:59
Chipzznickrud: apt-get install apt-listchanges03:59
bob2dan2: kde + ubuntu03:59
Chipzzand set it to mail changes to a specific account03:59
super_dude2bob2 it dosnt let me chose03:59
bob2tsume_: well, in the development version03:59
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nickrudChipzz, did the --download-only from chron for a year over dialup03:59
bob2tsume_: in stable releases, they're only for security fixes and serious serious bugs04:00
flaihi, i'm with a problem since i've installed the 2.6.11 kernel through synaptic that i can't configure my graphics card properly cause theres no cards listed on the xorgcfg utility, even editing the xorg.conf file manualy and puting there 1280x1024 it changes the file back to 1600x1200, anyone knows anything bout this ??!?!04:00
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bob2flai: go back to 2.6.1004:00
Chipzznickrud: and I don't see how supervising the upgrade will help you, apart from debconf questions...04:00
bob2flai: 2.6.11 is not supported04:00
Levande1dan2: it's ubuntu with the default desktop being kde, instead of gnome like normal ubuntu04:00
nickrudChipzz, I'll stick with the consensus04:01
flaibob2, yes i'm in 2.6.10 now but its giving me the same error04:01
Chipzznickrud: and debconf can be set to use the text front-end, and you can have it accept defaults04:01
Levande1is 2.6.11 in the repositories?  or did he just download that himself?04:01
nickrudChipzz, and also, apt-get install list-bugs04:01
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Chipzznickrud: also, apt-get upgrade, contrary to apt-get dist-upgrade does NOT remove any packages04:02
JNukehello, I'm having a small issue, wondering if you could help04:02
Chipzzso it would seem I'm the one who got you, not the other way around04:02
Levande1ah, debconf questions, i think that pretty much means you can't apt-get upgrade from cron04:02
Chipzz:P04:02
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ChipzzLevande1: you can04:02
Levande1Chipzz: what if the defaults don't work for you?04:02
Chipzzyou just have to dig a bit04:02
bob2Levande1: there are unsupported 2.6.11 packages in ubuntu04:03
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ChipzzLevande1: the default are chosen in such a way that they will work in most cases for you04:03
Levande1bob2: but they won't install on their own in my hoary install?04:03
Levande1Chipzz: yeah, but fuck you if you're one of those cases.04:03
Chipzznevertheless, you will have to output of the whole apt-get run mailed to you04:03
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bob2Levande1: correct04:03
Chipzzif teh defaults do not fit you, you can always use dpkg-reconfigure04:03
JNukeI'm using the instructions from http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto, and I've gotten to the part where I have to enter "modprobe ndiswrapper". I try it, but it gives me an "operation not permited" error.04:03
Levande1okay, i gotta go, see you guys later, food might be burning.04:04
DanglyBitstrying to install new theme from gnome-look.org..I have downloaded a tar.gz file...How do i open it?04:04
bob2JNuke: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper04:04
karljpjnuke: read the very bottom comment :)04:04
karljpsudo before most stuff04:04
Chipzznot knowing about dpkg-reconfigure sounds to me like being uninformed :P04:04
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super_dude2 when i use my netowork to acsses my computer running ubuntu from my windows it asks for a pass what is it i have tried all of mine04:05
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etzerdhello all04:05
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etzerdHello all ubuntu people04:06
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etzerd?04:06
super_dude2hi04:06
Kamping_Kaiserhi04:06
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JNukebob2: That gives me the same error. su modprobe ndiswrapper gives me a "Unknown ID: Modprobe" message04:06
nickrudoolon, sorry for late, but you're welcome :)04:06
etzerdcan anyone tell me how can I install Windows Media Player in Ubuntu?04:07
Kamping_Kaiserbleh04:07
nickrudIs crossover still in business?04:07
Delphnickrud: it's a possibility04:07
jfk303Hi, who's in the UK?04:07
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super_dude2 when i use my netowork to acsses my computer running ubuntu from my windows it asks for a pass what is it i have tried all of mine04:08
Delphjfk303: would you prefer the list ordered alphabetically, or by national insurance number?04:08
nickruddjm62, I thought you were in scotland :)04:08
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djm62still part of the union ;) just.04:08
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nickrudgot your own parliment, what's keeping you?04:08
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nickrudDelph, Ok, I bite. What are we diagramming?04:09
djm62nickrud: tax-raising powers04:09
nickrudah, money speaks :)04:10
Delphnickrud: well, the UK and scotland, for one.04:10
djm62we also have our own legal system...but no tax-raising powers04:10
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super_dude2!!!104:10
oolonanyone have a mplayer plugin?04:11
SQL_Samfor mozilla?04:11
oolonyes04:11
nickrudUnited Kingdom, Wales, England, Scotland, Northern Ireland, a few islands off the coast of France. How's my geog?04:11
JNukewhat else could I do to make 'modprobe ndiswrapper' work?04:11
SQL_Samnope - mine is vlm04:11
jfk303Cornwall04:11
SQL_Sambut there is one for it04:11
jfk303another country btw04:11
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ooloni just want flash and such to work04:12
flex_can gnomebaker burn audio cds?04:12
karljpsudo not su jnuke04:12
SQL_Samflash is different04:12
djm62dodgy...04:12
SQL_Samgo to macromedia for that - i got that for flash04:12
nickrudoolon, did you do the page I gave you?04:12
ooloni tried the plugin it installed but didn't work04:12
karljpwith apt-get, when I first install, I see a list of recommended packages,04:12
djm62how long since cornwall was an official country, language or not04:12
karljphow can I show tha tlist again?04:12
oolonthis is a test box nickrud  my card is in another one :(04:13
SQL_Samare there any good spyware or virus stoppers for linux? I need some04:13
Chipzzkarljp: if you use the -u option when doing apt-get upgrade, apt will be more verbose04:13
djm62SQL_Sam: to stop what?04:13
nickrudah, well, I get flash by doing that page and apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree04:13
jfk303djm62, by who's laws, the English?04:13
JNukekarljp: gives me the operation not permited error04:13
Kamping_Kaisersql_sam. what sort of AVs?04:13
SQL_Samviruses and spyware04:13
SQL_Sami dont have anything04:14
karljpupgrade tries to update everything though, I don't want to install anything new04:14
SQL_Sambut figure i need somthing04:14
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LinuxJonesSQL_Sam, those aren't really needed for Linux04:14
karljpI just want to see what packages something I've already installed recommended04:14
ChipzzSQL_Sam: why do you think you need virus stoppers?04:14
djm62jfk303: I'm not dissing it, but it's kind of like "war of the roses" stuff (at least to me)04:14
bob2JNuke: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper04:14
Chipzzkarljp: hmmm04:14
bob2try to stay on-topic, guys04:14
SQL_Samthere are no viruses for linux?04:14
SQL_Samthat is cool if it is true04:14
bob2SQL_Sam: there's about 3, none of which will hit sensible people04:14
SQL_Samwhat about spyware?04:15
LinuxJonesSQL_Sam, just a few and if you stick to the Ubuntu repositories you don't have to worry about it04:15
bob2oolon: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:15
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bob2SQL_Sam: how could there be spyware?04:15
LinuxJonesSQL_Sam, same :)04:15
oolonthanks bob204:15
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SQL_Samgotta love linux ;)04:15
karljpjones: that's bold, they hacked debian remember04:15
Chipzzkarljp: apt-get install grep-dctrl ; grep-status "" -s Suggests -s Recommends04:15
jfk303djm62, I'm only joking- far too tired04:15
djm62SQL_Sam: if it becomes a problem, it will be all over the blogs in seconds04:15
JNukebob2: operation not permited04:15
Chipzzyou may want to do something like 'grep-status "" -s Suggests -s Recommends | sort -u' though04:16
bob2JNuke: show me your prompt, what you typed, and what error you got04:16
SQL_Sami was worried about trojans from the web - but i guess they are all for windows huh?04:16
djm62jfk303: I support independence for yorkshire too ;)04:16
bob2that will be 2 lines of text04:16
aimazI have changed my processor and motherboard to amd64 since I installed ubuntu, how do I change my system to use amd64 instead of i386 packages?04:16
bob2SQL_Sam: how could they work on linux?  no browser on linux is going to randomly run crap from websites04:16
bob2aimaz: you have to reinstall04:16
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abbot45you guys probably hear this all the time, but i just installed and i cant get my resolution above 640x480.04:16
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Chipzzkarljp: though the output of that may be a little more than you bargained for ;P04:17
bugz_anybody here have a Windows 2000 Pro CD?04:17
SQL_Samand you wonder why people use windows at all.....  :-)04:17
aimazbob2, I can't just hack it in somehow? :(04:17
nickrudabbot45, yeah we do, and probably can help :)04:17
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bob2abbot45: please ask on the user list04:17
jfk303djm62, :) I'm still laughing, I can hardly type04:17
bob2aimaz: no04:17
bob2bugz_: that doesn't seem very on-topic04:17
Linforcerwhat's up with that backports thing?04:17
djm62SQL_Sam: almost everything aims at hitting windows, there are few vulnerabilities for linux (this will probably stay the same), few bits of malware target them (this will probably change), and patches are available quickly (probably stay the same)04:17
JNukebob2: root@Liaden:/usr/src # sudo modprobe ndiswrapper04:17
JNukeFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted04:17
LinforcerIt' s down or something?04:17
bob2Linforcer: don't use them04:17
Linforceroh04:17
bob2JNuke: lord04:17
Linforceryeah04:17
bob2JNuke: why are you root?04:17
Linforcerwhere will I get my java04:17
Linforcer:p04:17
bob2Linforcer: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:18
bob2I'd strongly recommend staying away from the backports repositories04:18
Linforcerbeen there, I should install the warty one?04:18
karljpchipzz: excellent, that seems like I can beat it into shape04:18
dazedLinforcer: www.ubuntuguide.org has a nice howto on java04:18
flex_JNuke: does it still work?04:18
Linforcerwell, I dont have a choice anymore04:18
SQL_Samit's funny how come you never hear this debate in slashdot when people are ranting about windows04:18
JNukeflex_: does what still work?04:18
LinforcerI get 500 internal server errors so.. :p04:19
flex_JNuke: ndiswrapper04:19
Linforcerand dazed ubuntuguide TELLS me to use backports04:19
Linforcerunlike some days ago04:19
Linforcernow I want to do it like I did some days ago04:19
bob2Linforcer: ignore that bit of the ubuntu guide04:19
bob2it's silly04:19
JNukeflex, it's what I'm trying04:19
bob2JNuke: please login as a normal user and try again04:19
Linforcerthen what?04:19
Jeezisi'm trying to set up my mini-pci wireless card04:20
Linforcernjust what the other thing said04:20
Jeezisthis is the readout when i do 'iwconfig'04:20
Linforceradding warty java and warty universe?04:20
Linforceroh well04:20
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JNukebob2, I'm logged in as a normal user04:20
Jeeziswlan0     IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:"Jeezis"04:20
Jeezis          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:09:5B:97:B9:4004:20
Jeezis          Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Tx-Power:-2147483648 dBm04:20
Jeezis          RTS thr:2347 B   Fragment thr:2346 B04:20
Jeezis          Power Management:off04:20
Jeezis          Link Quality:100/100  Signal level:-27 dBm  Noise level:-256 dBm04:20
Jeezis          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:004:20
Jeezis          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:004:20
bob2JNuke: why does it say "root" then?04:20
bob2Jeezis: please paste stuf in #flood, not here04:20
Jeezis?04:21
Jeezisi'm just trying to get help04:21
bob2yes, I know04:21
bob2if you have to paste stuff for people to see, do it in #flood, not here04:21
Jeezisbob2: ok04:21
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bob2JNuke: login as a normal user and try again04:22
JNukehow about this then? johnny@Liaden:~$ modprobe ndiswrapper04:22
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bob2again, no04:22
bob2sudo modprobe ndiswrapper04:22
djm62JNuke: the idea is to use sudo04:22
bob2I'm pretty sure the howto says that04:23
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ShadowRageare there any ppp dialers for ubuntu?04:23
flex_is there media you can add to apt-get?04:23
LinforcerSo erm, shouyld I remove the warty java and warty universe sources after java is installed or should they not cause a problem?04:23
bob2ShadowRage: yes, use pppconfig to set it up, and pon and poff to turn it on and off04:23
black_NightmareI know this is a long shot but any of you know any mini-pci card site that also has realtek rj45 and adaptec U160 cards? [NOT pci] 04:23
ShadowRagebob2: any graphical dialers?04:23
JNukebob2, it gives me the same error.04:23
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djm62ShadowRage: System->Administration->Networking provides the gnome interface04:23
bob2ShadowRage: probably, but I dunno04:23
bob2JNuke: show me04:23
black_NightmareI knew I actually saw one several months ago..I'm keep wishing I had bookmarked it -- I've been like at google for over half hour to no lead at all04:23
black_Nightmare:|04:23
ShadowRageI can live with doing that, but I'd prefer something I can remember to turn off04:24
JNukejohnny@Liaden:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper04:24
JNukeFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted04:24
bob2JNuke: what does 'whoami' print out?04:24
JNukeit prints 'johnny'04:24
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bob2JNuke: what does 'uname -a' print out?04:25
ShadowRagebob2: gppp still part of gnome 2?04:25
bob2I don't know04:25
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JNukeLinux Liaden 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux04:26
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black_Nightmarehm guess not04:27
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Jeezishmm, kwifimanager is running, and iwconfig detects my wireless card04:28
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^vir^back04:29
rymanhi guys whats the command to delete dir ?04:29
rymandeldir ?04:29
bob2JNuke: nothing in the user list archives?04:29
^vir^rox-filer looks nice04:29
bob2ryman: rmdir blah04:29
Jeezisbut when i try to change something using iwconfig it say SET failed on device wlan0 ; no such device04:29
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rymanbob2|  thanks04:29
LevanderAnybody use a cvs or svn repository to version their administrative configuration changes?04:29
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bob2Levander: neither are really usable, since they don't store permissions or ownership04:30
bob2cfengine2 is probably more like what you want04:30
Levanderah, cool04:30
JNukebob2: which would be where? I've been in linux for a grand total of 2 hours...04:30
bob2JNuke: http://lists.ubuntu.com/04:30
Levanderbut wouldn't the user's umask be good enough to set the permissions when you've taken something out of the versioning repository?04:30
rymanhow do I unmount somehting ?04:31
bob2Levander: no04:31
Levanderjust would rather use one versioning control system for everything, rather than a specific one for sysadmin tasks.04:31
rymansudo unmnt ?04:31
bob2ryman: umount04:31
rymanbob2|  thanks04:31
Levanderbob2: okay, i'm gonna go read about cfengine204:31
lifelessbob2: hey04:32
JNukebob2, dont see anything...04:32
lifelessbob2: you in syd ?04:32
Levanderhey, what's this about webmin being installed on my system?  Is it easy to pull up webmin on my machine in a browser?  What would be the URL?04:32
bob2lifeless: on my way soon04:33
djm62Levander: have you installed webmin?04:33
Levanderdjm62: no, but it says "starting webmin" when I boot my system04:33
djm62Levander: the default port is 10000, so http://localhost:1000004:33
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Levanderdjm62: is it run from under apache, or is it it's own server?04:34
bob2lifeless: kinda dreading a week of sleep deprivation + sickness04:34
djm62I'm not sure04:34
djm62bob2: hardware support has improved since the 90s!04:34
lifelessbob2: much better scheduled that last time04:34
Levanderwell, it's there, but i'm on my other machine now, and it's saying "access denied".  have to figure out how to open up that access i guess04:34
Levanderaccess denied to my ip*04:35
ShadowRagebob2: what are the ubuntu repositories again?04:35
LevanderShadowRage: it's where all the ubuntu packages are stored04:35
bob2lifeless: 9am starts Conflict with getting better, tho ;)04:35
bob2lifeless: hopefully the schedule ends early each night04:35
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ShadowRageLevander: I mean.. what is the url to them04:35
bob2ShadowRage: how do you mean?04:35
ryman/dev/hda5       /home/ryman/Movies  vfat    umask=000       0       004:35
ryman/dev/hdb       /home/ryman/Storage  vfat    umask=000       004:35
lifeless2015 is the end of the last session daily04:35
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ResonantAnyone know of a good router-based distrobution, one that comes with everything I need?04:36
rymanI can't see any files in the second partition04:36
LevanderShadowRage: you are trying to set up your sources.list?04:36
ResonantBesides of Ubuntu of course ;-)04:36
rymanwhat did I do wrong ?04:36
djm62Resonant: one comes in linksys routers :-/04:36
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bob2lifeless: haha, a mere 11 hours a day04:36
ShadowRageLevander: gonna grab a package I'll need to get online later04:36
ResonantBah. I dont want to buy a commercial router04:36
ResonantI have a spare old computer04:36
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Levanderhttp://archive.ubuntu.com - but not positive that's what you're looking for04:37
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ShadowRageLevander: that would be it04:37
djm62nights04:37
jubeiHello. X wont start "(EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device    No core pointer"04:37
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saik0greets04:38
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saik0Is there a file somewhere where I can look at and edit the printers that were auto detected?04:38
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ShadowRageLevander: can you do me a favor, see if gnome dialer is in ubuntu universe or multiverse04:39
IIIEars_ 11anything04:39
SQL_Samhow do you make vlc the default media player?04:39
limer:X vlc04:39
jubeithis happens when I add the line Option      "Protocol" "evdev" to my xorg.conf. Why wont X start?04:39
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Linforcerso this gnome menu-editor in the  guide just edits the applications menu. anyone know of a tool to edit places or system menus?04:40
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=== ShadowRage is glad he puts most of his data on separate partitions
ShadowRagemakes it easier when it comes to backing up data04:40
ShadowRageor upgrading stuff04:40
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ShadowRagewas waiting for a good dist :O04:41
ShadowRageI need warty04:41
ShadowRageer04:41
ShadowRagehoary04:41
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nickrudLinforcer, you can add places from inside the file selector dialog, I don't know of anywhere else04:41
karljpanyone know how to make nano not my default editor?04:41
jubeiIf I wanted to post the above question on ubuntu boards would it be a hardware or application question?04:42
Linforcernickrud oh yeah, thats true thanks04:42
karljpset | grep -i edit and env | grep -i edit don't show it up,04:42
Kamping_Kaiserkarljp its in path04:42
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Kamping_Kaiseri think04:42
nickrudkarljp, either EDITOR in ./etc/profile, or sudo update-alternatives --config editor04:42
rymanhow do I change the skin for xmms ?04:42
karljpnickrud: but shouldn't stuff in /etc/profile go into my own env vars?04:42
ShadowRagebob2: is chestnut dialer in ubuntu's package tree?04:43
karljpI mean, I should have an EDITOR in my set and env output right?04:43
nickrudkarljp, it's not?04:43
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karljpnick: nope04:43
karljpand it's not in /etc/profile either04:44
nickrudkarljp, well, I'm the only one on my machine & I do the --config editor thing04:44
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Linforceroh, man... I can' t believe GnomeBaker or the CD/DVD creator can' t create and burn an image because the files in it have umlauts and stuff04:44
Linforcerthst is so lame04:44
Linforcerow well04:44
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flex_can gnomebaker burn audio cds from mp304:46
bob2ShadowRage: I haven't heard of that before04:46
bob2Linforcer: file a bug04:46
Linforcerbob2 will do04:46
limeryou know, Miller High Life really isn't bad once you're drunk enough to not taste it04:46
ShadowRagebob2: http://chestnut-dialer.sourceforge.net/gtk2-screenshots.html04:47
Linforcerbob2 searched for bugs, bug already filed04:47
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ircbot_is there an apt for flash?04:51
LinforcerO.o04:51
bob2ircbot_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats04:51
bob2(please read the FAQ)04:51
ircbot_...04:51
LinforcerYou need a bot for that kind of thing04:52
Linforcerwhere you can be all like "!info [userrname]  [topic] "04:52
bob2so people can ignore the bot like they do the faq, and the howto and the list archive and the website?04:52
holycowbob2, hehe :)04:52
Linforcerit' ll pm them04:52
bob2that's obnoxious04:52
Linforcerworked for me when I first wanted to install debian04:52
nickrudkarljp, sorry I disappeared or seemed to give a short answer, I was working with someone on another channel04:53
LinforcerI came in there, asked something04:53
nickrudkarljp, did you get your editor set right?04:53
Linforcerthey did some command, nifty pm explaining step by step what to do04:53
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Linforcerit wasn' t obnoxious and I didn' t ignore irt04:53
karljpnick, yeah that worked, seems ubuntu doesn't use the EDITOR var,04:53
Linforcerit*04:53
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karljpt uses sensible-editor04:54
KarlosIIis it just me or has there not been any updates for hoary recently?04:54
bob2KarlosII: it's released04:54
bob2KarlosII: this is what happens04:54
bob2KarlosII: the only updates in future will be fore serious bugs or security problems04:54
LinforcerBy the way, if it says multiverse is "non-free" does that mean non-free or simply non-GPL?04:54
bob2non-free04:55
nickrudkarljp, yes it does. or it's supposed to.04:55
bob2as in it's not freely distributable04:55
Linforceralright04:55
bob2but you can probably at least use it04:55
karljpwell, EDITOR overrides04:55
KarlosIIah I see04:55
karljpbut it falls back to sensible-editor04:55
Linforcerso there are non-GPL free sources in universe?04:55
KarlosIINow I understand04:55
nickrudkarljp, I would hope so :)04:55
karljpnick :)04:55
bob2Linforcer: there's non-GPL Free stuff in main04:55
karljpjust not what I was used to.04:55
Linforcerbob2 I see. I had no idea.04:56
bob2Linforcer: GPL software is a subset of Free Software04:56
bob2X isn't GPL, for instance04:56
bob2er, X.org and XFree8604:56
LinforcerxD really? I'm so ignorant04:56
saik0so where does gnome keep it's autodectected printer settings04:56
karljpdamn hippies04:56
Linforcerthey have their own license?04:56
karljpTHE GPL IS NOT THE BE ALL AND END ALL OF FREE SOFTWARE04:56
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Linforcerkarijp I know04:56
nickrudkarljp, sorry, jumped out, yeah sensible-editor is a script in /usr/bin, it's easy to read04:56
bob2Linforcer: they use the MIT/X11 license, which is very similar to the BSD license04:57
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Linforcerbob2: oh right, that no advertisements clause it has04:57
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BrettMeisterHi, folks!04:57
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LinforcerBecause the new BSD license is GPL compatible04:57
Kamping_Kaiserhi04:57
shawnhhi04:57
bob2Linforcer: right, mit/x11 and 3-clause bsd don't have the advertising clause04:57
shawnhwhat is new folks04:57
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[Outlaw] I just tried Ubuntu on my Powerbook... very impressed on the whole04:58
[Outlaw] Shame WPA support is hopeless04:58
BrettMeisterI just used synaptics to download and install K3b.  It shows as installed in synaptics; but, I'm not finding it on my applications lists.  Ideas?04:58
bob2[Outlaw] : that depends on your chipset, aiui04:58
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Dr_WillisBrettMeister,  run it from the shell 'k3b' is the command04:58
LinforcerMan... I swear. Ubuntu is teh second best distrobution if you don't mind waiting loooong, and the best if you do.04:59
[Outlaw] bob2: It's a Netgear WG511. It's all detected, but setting up WPA authentication is horrible... there is no reason I should have to hack around in various .conf files to get it to work04:59
BrettMeisterDr_Willis, Thanks!  So that's the only way for me to run it?04:59
Kamping_Kaiserbrettmeister. install the "menu" package, it will be in the new menu04:59
Dr_Williswaiting long? waiting for what?04:59
[Outlaw] Maybe I'll try it again in a few months when WPA is as supported as WEP04:59
Dr_WillisBrettMeister,  make an icon for it. :P04:59
LinforcerDr_Willis I would consider Gentoo ebtter if it werent for how long it takes to install04:59
BrettMeisterKamping_Kaiser, Make that install through synaptics?05:00
Dr_WillisLinforcer,  ive used gentoo.. in many ways i consider ubuntu better.05:00
Kamping_Kaiseryes05:00
LinforcerDR_willis name ' em05:00
Kamping_Kaiseror apt05:00
Linforcer(plese)05:00
Linforcerplease*05:00
bob2[Outlaw] : sure, and I want a pony05:00
bob2[Outlaw] : you can send patches, you kno w;)05:00
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BrettMeisterThanks, everyone.05:00
Linforcer(what is WITH my typing today?)05:00
Dr_WillisDepends on  your needs.. Some people want a more tough out system for how gnome works with the tools.. others want a more "standard to the gnome you get from the source way" -05:01
Dr_Willisi can use ubuntu and it basiciallty fits my needs out of the box. with very little twiddling.05:01
andrekanyone know of a scp client with gui?05:01
bob2andrek: nautilus can do sftp05:01
andrekhow?05:01
[Outlaw] Well, Redhat's network manager looks very promising05:01
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LinforcerDr_willis yeah, but the Gentoo tree has so much more than Ubuntu's05:01
bob2andrek: open the url sftp://user@host/home/user/05:02
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Dr_WillisLinforcer,  more that i dont need. :P05:02
saik0I sit in the switched from gentoo camp as well05:02
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AmaranthLinforcer: gentoo also appearently breaks gstreamer :)05:02
LinforcerDr_willis anyway, heck I'm not using Gentoo and /using/ Ubuntu for a reason :P05:02
Dr_Willisgentoo often breaks things.. but they do tend to get fixed the next day. :P05:02
Linforcerhaha05:03
Linforcerlittle GNOMEs come do it at night05:03
AmaranthLinforcer: If you're a gentoo user and could explain this to me I'd be greatful, I get users asking for help with this05:03
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LinforcerAmaranth I' m not I just hear and see a lot from a Gentoo user friend05:03
AmaranthIt doesn't create gstreamer's gconf entries in /system/gstreamer/0.8/default05:03
Amaranthoh05:03
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dazedi need something to do ! lol05:05
LinforcerAnyway, anyone who' s new to Linux I would tell to use Ubuntu anyway. It's the first distro that made me toss out ol windows and say bye to dualbooting05:06
ShadowRagebob2: does ubuntu have gqradio?05:06
bob2ShadowRage: don't think so05:07
bob2you can find that out from the ubuntu website, tho05:07
ShadowRagewho do I go to to get packages added to ubuntu?05:08
ShadowRagegqradio = the sex05:08
Linforcerhm, what does this -t hoary argument for apt-get do? exclude any sources that have hoary in it?05:08
ShadowRageif you have a radio tuner like I do :X05:08
bob2Linforcer: no, read the manpage05:08
bob2Linforcer: it tells apt to try to get the version from hoary05:08
Linforcerobob2 was just thinking that05:08
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=== darkaudit gets XM radio online... streams via mplayer-plugin :)
BrettMeisterNewbie working on tweaks here.  The easy menu way of looking at screen resolution settings won't let me make changes.  Ideas on how?05:08
Linforcerbob2 was just thinking that to both sentences05:08
Linforcertyped the question before thinking :(05:09
Linforcernasty habit05:09
BrettMeister...from the screen menu.05:09
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Linforcer>.>05:10
Linforcerlosslessness galore ey05:10
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ShadowRageargh05:10
ShadowRagewhat the fuck?05:10
ShadowRagethey have gqmpeg gqcam05:10
ShadowRagebut no gqradio05:10
ShadowRagewtf05:10
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darkauditShadowRage: you have universe & multiverse enabled in your sources.list?05:10
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ShadowRageonly universe05:11
saik0so does anybody know this mysterious conf file where the gnome print manager keeps it's autodetected printers?05:11
bob2I doubt it stores it in a config file05:11
saik0bob2, say it is'nt so05:12
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DanglyBitstrying to install new theme from gnome-look.org..I have downloaded a tar.gz file...How do i open it?05:12
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ShadowRagedarkaudit: it's in none of the repositories05:12
ShadowRagehrmm05:12
^thehatsrule^hey guys... is there a cli command to see your computer specs?05:12
bob2no05:13
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flex_ DanglyBits: tar zxvf filename05:13
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andrekscp program with gui?05:13
darkauditShadowRage: I'm googling it now... usually it'd be listed on the Ubuntu site... but not this time05:13
ShadowRagedarkaudit: http://gqmpeg.sourceforge.net/radio.html05:13
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flex_yay ive got ubuntu iso05:14
DanglyBitsflex_: thanks05:14
bob2andrek: use nautilus as I told you before05:14
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andrekcan't get it working05:14
bob2then explain what's wrong05:14
bob2instead of going off on another tangent05:14
darkauditShadowRage: doesn't help me... local radio here sucks... switched to XM :)05:15
andrekwell, i type the adress and login05:15
andrekbut nothing happens05:15
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bob2no window pops up at all?05:15
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ShadowRagedarkaudit: of course I could always compile a source package ;D05:16
rymanhi guys , how do I change xmms skin ?05:16
ShadowRagewhatever, I gotta go05:16
ShadowRageprolly transfer parts and stuff to another computer tomorrow, back up everything to free partitions and install ubuntu.05:16
ShadowRagelater.05:16
Kamping_Kaiserbye05:17
saik0darkaudit, the radio still sucks, eh?05:17
andrekbob2, no05:17
andrekbut anyways05:17
andrekgFTP does it for me05:17
bob2ryman: right click on the body05:18
mainerandrek: try putty05:18
andrekputty for linux?05:18
maineryes05:18
mainerthey have a linux version05:19
darkauditsaik0: I listen to local radio for Steelers, Pirates, & WVU... that's about it...05:19
hypnojebus, can you get any easier than `ssh username@hostname`05:19
geneo93bob2:  why doesn't ubuntu have gnomeradio05:19
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saik0darkaudit, I listen to NPR on occasion. I'm not sure if that falls into 'local' radio05:20
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smoucheI can't get mplayer to play stuff off the npr site; mplayer sucks in general.05:21
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SQL_Samwhat is the npr site?05:22
smoucheNational Public Radio05:22
darkaudithmm... Ubuntu's mlnet from the mldonkey package gets banned all over the place... compile a new mlnet and bans lifted... didn't change any of the config files05:23
smouchein the US, a network for public radio.05:23
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SQL_Samim from AZ - lol but i thought it was something else05:23
kakakekehi!!!!!!!!!05:23
kakakekei am french05:23
SQL_Samhola!05:24
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rymanbob2|  where do I put the skin that I downloaded ?05:24
LinforcerIs that your best quality?05:24
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rymanor how do I load it ?05:24
LinforcerSince you're advertising it so loudly05:24
smouchewell, I listen to French radio too -- at least I don't need mplayer for Radio France!05:24
kakakekeyes05:24
LinforcerxD05:24
kakakekeit's good05:24
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LinforcerHey! I'm not far from france :P05:25
] BreliC[SQL_Sam, hehe, hola is not french ;)05:25
LinforcerWell, I wouldn' t say I' m close either.05:25
ruukiaI need help... my computer hangs (ie blank screen) when I try to restart ... this prob wasn't there before and I dunno why its there now ... I compared my old xorg.conf with new one and nothing has changed .. someone plz help!05:25
darkauditsmouche: your mplayer off the ubuntu repo, or did you roll your own?05:25
smoucherepo, darkaudit.05:25
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saik0] BreliC[, I'm sure he meant ohayo05:25
smouchewhich one exactly, at this point, I don't know!05:25
kakakekeand05:26
kakakekewhy speak french here05:26
smoucheor aloha.05:26
smouchepourquoi pas?05:26
] BreliC[heh, or even Guten Abend05:26
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darkauditsmouche: I've gotten better results by rolling my own .deb... the devels recommend it, and include instructions in the source05:26
Linforcerparce que c' est pas gentil pour les gens qui ne comprens pas (pardon my french OMGPUN)05:27
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bob2geneo93: because no one packaged it yet.  do you want to?05:27
smouchedarkaudit -- thanks, I'll try05:27
bob2ryman: ~/.xmms/Skins/05:27
bob2ryman: but I'm pretty sure xmms has some documentation05:27
bob2this is an english channel, folks05:27
darkauditsmouche: http://www.princessleia.com/MPlayer.html05:28
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geneo93bob2 ubuntu has to new of libs for the one i have05:28
kakakeke_why speak french here05:28
kakakeke_??05:28
darkauditget the packes the page suggests... not all those switches to compile will work05:28
dazed_why not kakakeke_05:28
bob2smouche: mplayer is already in Ubuntu05:28
bob2dazed_: this is an english channel.  try #ubuntu-fr.05:29
kakakeke_yes05:29
kakakeke_ok05:29
kakakeke_thank you05:29
smoucheyes, bob2.  You missed darkaudit's point, I think.05:29
dazed_damn well pee on u then05:29
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DanglyBitshow do i install new themes for ubuntu?05:29
bob2smouche: his point is invalid05:29
bob2there's no point to recompiling it05:29
rymanbob2|  thanks05:29
dazed_i just figured it was a general ubu channel i dont care if anyone speaks french05:29
darkauditbob2: they're generic... the mplayer developers suggest that one compile their own for best results05:29
kakakeke_ok05:30
bob2the mplayer developers are...interesting05:30
kakakeke_the channel#unbuntu-fr05:30
kakakeke_is ok05:30
kakakeke_thank you05:30
rymanI have question about the windows. How do I make it like when I go into a new folder. it opens about windows instead of the _self window05:30
kcbnacGrrr.  I followed the instructions at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto for instructions on howto install 3D drivers (in this case the binary only ones) for my ATI Radeon 9600XT...it broke X :-(05:30
smouchebob2 -- what's up your but -- driving off the foreigners (one line in French and he's persona non grata -- that's a phrase used in english,btw--05:30
bob2smouche: huh?05:30
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bob2I'm not driving anyone off05:30
smoucheand you're arguing with friendly advise about an alternative to repos mplayer?05:30
bob2I'm pointing people at places that will better be able to help them05:30
saik0DanglyBits, metacity themes? icon themes? GTK2 themes?05:31
bob2I'm pointing out that you're going to extra hassle for no reason05:31
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bob2you're obviously free to do whatever you want05:31
kcbnacI reselected the ATI rather than the fglrx for video, rerunning the config on X.05:31
darkauditbob2: and the mplayer I compiled supported more of my hardware's capabilities than the ubuntu-packaged one meant for my processor...05:31
bob2darkaudit: e.g.?05:31
bob2oh, blah, do whatever you want05:32
smouchebob2 -- I work with people with varying English language skills every day, its my profession -- you may be helping them more by encouraging them to stick around05:32
AmaranthIf he says something about SSE or MMX I think I might puke. ;)05:32
kcbnacBut I want (okay need) 3D support under Ubuntu.  Anybody know howto install it?  the wiki instructions didn't do it.05:32
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smouchethey may be able to cope in an English language channel better than you realize05:32
DanglyBitssaik): i guess they must be gtk themes..the ones found under Systems>Preferences>Theme05:32
DanglyBitssaik0: i guess they must be gtk themes..the ones found under Systems>Preferences>Theme05:32
bob2smouche: if they're actually speaking frenchin here, than I'd hazard they'd be happier in a french-speaking channel05:32
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darkauditAmaranth: well, they weren't on in the k7 package... :)05:32
Amaranthdarkaudit: Have you ever seen Gentoo? :)05:33
kcbnacI want to play UT2004, not just listen to the music :-/05:33
SQL_Samis there a short cut key to switch between desktops?05:33
smouchebob2 -- "speaking french" here was one line, I believe.  You could ignore it.  it disrupted nothing.05:33
bob2ok!05:33
darkauditAmaranth: seen it... almost installed it...05:33
bob2I'm totally wrong.05:33
bob2SQL_Sam: you can set one in the keybindings preference window05:33
saik0DanglyBits, gnome-look.org is a good place to start. unpack it it ~/.themes/05:34
LinuxJonesSQL_Sam, ctrl+alt+arrow keys05:34
SQL_Samcool05:34
Amaranthsaik0: You don't even have to unpack it.05:34
DanglyBitssaik0: what file am i looking to install once i unpack the theme?05:34
SQL_Samnot working...05:34
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Amaranthsaik0: The Theme window has an "Install Theme" button that you point at the .tar.gz file and it installs it for you.05:35
Q_Continuumany help installing ATI 3D drivers?  binary or free?05:36
Dr_Willishmm they were rather easy to install. I followed tht binary driver guide.05:36
Dr_Willisbut that was a few weeks ago.05:36
saik0Amaranth, nifty. I was under the impression that doing that just unpacked it05:36
Q_ContinuumI followed it and upon reboot got the message that X crashed.05:37
Dr_Willisdid you edit your X config?05:37
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Dr_Willisdid you backup your WORKING X config. :P is a better question.05:37
Q_ContinuumI reran the setup yeah05:37
Dr_Willisreran the setup? i just edited the config file.05:37
smouchebob2, since evidently I'm supposed to infer there's nothing wrong with mplayer in the repos, is it a firefox issue that's making it flaky?05:37
Q_ContinuumI reran it afterwords and just used ATI to get back to my desktop.05:37
Dr_Willischanged 1 line i recall05:37
Q_Continuumdamn.05:37
Q_Continuumcan ya take a look at the page and tell me what you did?  I haven't done anything in the notes.05:38
Q_Continuumhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto05:38
Q_ContinuumFor Hoary05:38
Dr_WillisI added the sources.. installed the things.. edited the x.org and changed the ati to 'flgrx' i think.05:38
Q_Continuumhrm.05:39
Dr_Willistook me all of.. say 20 sec. :P05:39
Dr_Willisi was amazed05:39
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Q_Continuumwell I just did it again (manual this time)05:40
Dr_Willisthat site is rather.. concise. :P and to the point on what to do lol. :P05:40
Q_ContinuumSo time to restart X.05:40
Q_Continuumerrr load the module.05:40
Q_Continuumshould I have to restart or restart X, after loading the module and editing my X config?05:41
Q_Continuum(installed module in previous boot)05:41
geneo93yes05:41
Q_Continuummmmkay05:41
Q_Continuumback soon.05:41
Dr_Williswhen you first install the moduiles it needs a reboot i think i read.05:41
Q_ContinuumI did that on a previous boot.05:41
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Dr_Willisthen edit the configs and do an "alt-ctrl-backspace" to kill off X05:41
geneo93to late05:42
Dr_Willisthen dance a jig. :P05:42
Dr_Willisand run around the block naked.05:42
lcWhat is a good mp3 decoder?05:42
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nickrudlc, mpg123, mpg321 both work05:43
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nickrudunless I misunderstood the question :)05:43
Q_ContinuumHow can I tell if it's the one thats loaded now?  restarted X.05:44
] BreliC[what is it again to redirect messages to null in bash?  2>/dev/null ?05:44
geneo93Q_Continuum:  run glxgears05:44
Q_Continuumworks.05:45
Q_Continuumyaaay.05:46
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nickrudgee, seems quiet. does everybody's everthings work :)05:47
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geneo93nickrud:  no working on gnomeradio05:48
Kamping_Kaiserno, just no one can get online ;)05:48
nickrudgeneo93, that's hardware, not sofware, and you know my line :)05:48
nickrudgood to see you though05:48
geneo93nickrud:  the hardware part is fine the software part is borked05:49
geneo93just cnat seem to get it to compile05:49
nickrudcompile?05:50
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geneo93well yes its not in ubuntu05:50
nickrudwhat's the first error you get (I'm feeling frisky, I'll take a chance :)05:51
SQL_Samwhere do you set a video player as the default?05:51
geneo93No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found05:51
Chipzz*sigh*05:52
geneo93i have 2.0-105:52
Chipzzis there any way to get your mousecursor back in X after a fullscreen app crashes?05:52
nickruddo you have the -dev installed?05:53
geneo93hmm i believe so leme check05:53
Chipzzthis is really getting on my nerves having to kill X each time that app crashes05:53
Q_Continuumnow THAT is weird...05:53
LinuxJonesChipzz, what app is that ?05:54
Q_ContinuumI go into my home folder...where there is a .UT2004 folder...I click on it and it disappears...05:54
ChipzzLinuxJones: in this case, mupen64, but other apps that run full screen and change the cursor will do that too05:54
Q_Continuumhas a red X in the upper right corner05:54
Q_Continuumand a lock in the bottom right.05:54
ChipzzLinuxJones: SDL apps causing at the wrong moment for instance05:54
Chipzzs/causing/crashing/05:54
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Chipzzentrance (enlightenments dm)05:55
geneo93nickrud:  nope05:55
ChipzzI can set it to the right resolution, but my mouse-cursor will just be invisible05:55
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nickrudgeneo93, try libgnomeui-dev05:56
Q_Continuumany help here?  folder that disappears when I click on it in file manager, has a red X in upper right corner, lock in bottom right...need to delete...but can't, it "doesn't exist"05:56
LinuxJonesChipzz, wish I could help :(  night all05:56
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flex_whats the default root password when you install ubuntu05:58
Chipzzflex_: there is none05:58
Q_Continuumyaaaay Quake III starts!05:58
optikalflex_: you have to specify a password to use it05:58
flex_i do a su and enter nothing for password and it doesnt work05:58
Q_Continuumnow to fix UT2004....05:58
lcHow do I kill an app05:58
lcxmms isnt responding05:58
Chipzzuse sudo su - followed by passwd to set one05:58
Kamping_Kaiser!! nice job q_continuum05:58
optikalflex_: try 'sudo passwd root'05:58
Q_Continuumnow I'm hitting the problem I mentioned above, with the folder that disappears.05:59
geneo93felx use your user passwd05:59
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optikalhuh?05:59
Q_Continuumneed to delete the folder (technically the files inside it)05:59
Q_Continuumfolder that disappears when I click on it in file manager, has a red X in upper right corner, lock in bottom right...need to delete...but can't, it "doesn't exist"05:59
nickrudgeneo93, did that help? and are you sure about the version of libgnomeui you gave me.05:59
flex_it asks for a password06:00
flex_the install never let you put one in06:00
Chipzzflex_: which is your own password06:00
flex_i have an account flex with a password and that password doesnt work for root06:00
Chipzzflex_: the password of the *user* that is06:00
nickrudQ_Continuum, go to the same directory in a folder, and do ls -l, if the file says it's owned by root, the file manager can't delete it06:00
flex_blank doesnt work either06:00
nickrudQ_Continuum, using a terminal :)06:00
Chipzzflex_: type 'sudo su -'06:00
Q_Continuumof course.06:01
Q_Continuumdoesn't see it.06:01
geneo93nickrud:  its going to be awhile i'm on dun06:01
nickrudgeneo93, ok06:01
Chipzzflex_: it will ask you for a password *which is YOUR OWN password*06:01
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Chipzzsubsequently, do passwd root06:01
flex_thanks06:01
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flex_thats weird06:01
Q_Continuumwhat's the remove directory command? lol06:01
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sgoodwinhello06:01
Q_Continuum(found the directory...had capitalization errors)06:01
Q_Continuumnm06:01
sgoodwin I just installed ubuntu, I've been using gentoo06:02
dsas********06:02
Chipzzflex_: no it isn't, not if you know what sudo is06:02
dsaswhoops06:02
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Chipzz;)06:02
nickrudgeneo93, by the way thats known as dsn06:02
Chipzzflex_: the whole purpose of sudo is being able to do stuff without knowing the root password06:02
NigelSQ_Continuum: rm -rf <dir>06:03
Q_Continuumthanks nigels, been ages since I've worked on a linux boxen. lol.06:03
NigelS:)06:03
Q_ContinuumyAYYYYYY it starts06:03
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bluefoxicy http://usrbac.sourceforge.net/misc/ss_ubuntu_lone-ice.png  My theme of choice today :)06:03
Q_ContinuumI think...06:03
flex_is there a progam to configure x with ubuntu?06:03
lcHow do you kill an application thats locked up in X?06:03
optikalflex_: What is it your wanting to do?06:04
flex_change refresh rate06:04
bluefoxicyThe values for background are HUE=200 SAT=45 BRIGHT=45, colorify first and then adjust bright/contrast06:04
nickrudlc, if alt ctl F! works, you can login and kill it from there06:04
nickrudif nowhere else06:04
geneo93nickrud:  i've never had anything but dialup ever06:04
bluefoxicyvery lonely blue-grey ubuntu sparkle06:04
nickrudgeneo93, its called D********* slow network06:04
nickrud:)06:04
ubuntuhow do i list hidden windows shares in nautilus? i.e. c$, d$, etc.06:05
Q_ContinuumYES!06:05
lcalt-ctrl-f doesnt do anything06:05
geneo93its even slower here06:05
Q_ContinuumIT WORKS!06:05
optikalflex_: check /etc/X11/XF86Config-406:05
optikalunder [Monitor] 06:05
nickrudI lived at the bottom of a 3k pipe for a year I know what you mean06:05
NigelSlc: if you press the close button for the app (this is in gnome) gnome will notice the app won't close and offer to kill it.  Alternatively you can load the system monitor and kill the process from there or from the command line type kill -9 <pid> or pkill -9 process name or killall -9 process name (not to be used on a bsd system) :)06:05
flex_theres nothing like drakX but for ubuntu?06:05
optikalIts just as easy to change in the config file, really.06:05
optikalI dont worry about using programs to do something that I can do faster than it can06:06
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Q_ContinuumDanka everyone that helped.  (UT2k4 needed the default incorrect config files blown away, hence the rm -rf)06:06
dcravenflex_: this site has info on adding refresh rates --> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:06
lostonehow do i list hidden windows shares in nautilus? i.e. c$, d$, etc.06:07
geneo93nickrud:  its going to take over an hour06:07
nickrudgeneo93, I do understand :)06:07
NigelSlc: when he said use ctrl-alt-f! the ! was in place of one char, e.g. the Function keys.  those shortcuts take you to virtual terminals. If X freezes completely you can always do that to be able to kill the offending processes.06:07
sgoodwinare any of you running nvidia with render accel working well?06:08
dcravenlostone: does CTRL-H work?06:08
AnubisFailed to fetch http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  500 Internal Server Error06:08
nickrudMay not be here, but, if it works ....06:08
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lostonedcraven: nup :(06:08
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geneo93nickrud:  can dpkg install that after i compile it06:10
nickrudgeneo93, no.06:10
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nickrudask people who compile a lot about checkinstall, it's probabley what you want06:10
geneo93or can i make a deb and sebd it to repsoitory06:10
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bob2you can06:11
geneo93send06:11
bob2but that's a fair bit of work06:11
geneo93never realy used dpkg before so i dont know much just used rpm06:12
nickrudbob2, checkinstall would work for most local installs, right?06:14
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geneo93well alien can create a deb from rpm06:14
GammaRaynickrud: yes06:15
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geneo93maybe i could do that06:15
nickrudGammaRay, thanks, used it once or twice and it *worked for meI06:15
GammaRaycheckinstall will create a deb and install it06:15
bob2nickrud: well, I'd just install to /usr/local instead, but yeah06:15
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bob2well, I'd probably package it instead, but meh06:15
Q_Continuumanyone here work with cedega at all?06:16
geneo93from tar.gz or compiled source06:16
nickrudsum of us are skilled :)06:16
geneo93i'm not here anyway06:16
Q_Continuumtrying to do my first install of a windows app (World of Warcraft) under cedega.06:17
nickrudI'm tired of dealing with unmanaged files on my system, I try to avoid it.06:17
sgoodwinQ_Continuum, I used cedega and WoW nicely with gentoo06:17
sgoodwinain't tried it with cedega but I'd imagine it works well06:17
geneo93Q_Continuum:  try freecraft06:17
Q_Continuumhow does one install it?  (I see by their site that it's supported)06:17
jubeiDoes ubuntu support evdev input for the mouse?06:17
Q_Continuumfreecraft?  isn't that for the old ones...like War II etc?06:17
NigelSQ_Continuum: cedega ./setup.exe or so :)06:17
Q_Continuummmmkay thanks06:17
sgoodwinQ_Continuum, put in cd 1, type cedega /media/cdrecorder/Installer.exe or w/e06:18
sgoodwinworld of warcraft = mmorpg, not strategy like wII and such06:18
Q_Continuumdamn.  cdega not found.06:18
Q_Continuumfsck.06:18
Q_Continuumhrm...where'd that end up...06:18
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NigelSif you installed it, it will be in your path06:19
NigelSso..check your typing :)06:19
Q_Continuumlol06:19
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xelpudare there any known problems with dhcp3-server (hoary) and it's dynamic dns support?06:21
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SQL_Samhas anyone ever heard of cinelerra?06:22
geneo93SQL_Sam:  i have06:22
SQL_Samhave you tried it?06:22
geneo93yes06:22
SQL_Samlooking for a movie editro06:22
bob2xelpud: if there was, they would be in the bts06:22
SQL_Sameditor06:23
SQL_Samanygood?06:23
geneo93yes06:23
SQL_Samhave you tried it in ubuntu?06:23
geneo93no06:23
SQL_Samdamn06:24
geneo93still working on things i use more oftain06:24
geneo93offten06:24
SQL_Sami want to try it.....06:24
SQL_Sami got the rpm06:24
geneo93well give it a try06:24
dazedSQL_Sam: then try it06:24
dazedit cant hur06:24
dazedtt06:24
SQL_Samhow do i install an rpm?06:24
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nickrudgeneo93, often? :)06:24
Q_ContinuumOkay...this is an irritating thing...browsing the filesystem...I want a back button or something...06:25
geneo93SQL_Sam:  it has loads of depends06:25
dazedSQL_Sam: get alien and type 'alien -i ****.rpm'06:25
geneo93nickrud:  i know06:25
SQL_Samk - got alien06:25
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sgoodwinwhat's ubuntu's default installer method, .debs?06:25
wbeck85aye06:25
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mburnsof course06:25
dazedits a debian package based system sgoodwin06:25
SQL_Samif this thing messes up how do i delete it?06:25
mburnsreinstall ubuntu06:26
mburns:)06:26
SQL_Samdont say that....06:26
Q_Continuumahhhhh06:26
Q_Continuumcvscedega lol06:26
Q_Continuum*slaps himself*06:26
wbeck85can anyone point me to a thorough howto for compiling? the configure, make, make install stuff?06:26
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NigelSwbeck85: sounds like you already know all you need to know :)06:27
saik0wbeck85, the tarball should have some Readme and INSTALL files that do that06:27
dazedwbeck85: thats basically it06:27
dazed./configure && make && sudo make install and ur done06:28
dazedlol06:28
nickrudwbeck85, the hard part is figuring out what fails :)06:28
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=== nickrud kisses debian
NigelSwbeck85: I'd not stick the commands together like that, not least of all because one step will usually fail the first few times :)06:28
dazedcompiling a program is actually very easy06:28
wbeck85the problem is that Audacity isnt working right, it can't find my sound or something(plus it looks doggone ugly in the package from the repos), so i wanted to try compiling it from source06:29
jubeiDoes ubuntu support evdev input for the mouse? Is this a stupid question or does everyone just have no idea?06:29
dazedyou got a compiler06:29
dazedg++ or something06:29
sgoodwinso if I have this .deb here, what do I need to do to install it?06:30
nickrudjubei, I do see evdev loaded as a module, so I would think so06:30
jubei=)06:30
NigelSsgoodwin: dpkg -i ./<file>06:30
wbeck85but that required compiling wxGTK from source cuz i apparently need it compiled without gtk2. But i dididnt reealize that until after compiling makeinstalling, but now i wanna remove it, and start afresh, and i remeber something about some clean command or flag?06:30
NigelSsgoodwin: well, sudo dpkg06:30
jubeinickrud: I cant get it to work can you help me?06:30
jubeinickrud: I had it working in mandrake 10.006:31
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nickrudjubei, I'm not even sure what it is, just where to look for it :)06:31
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NigelSwbeck85: most will have a make uninstall option if you did a make install, I'd recommend not make installing until you're sure a program works, e.g. just compile it, with make, and then run it locally with ./ on the bin06:31
jubeiWell I have posted details here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2934106:31
NigelSwbeck85: make clean simply "cleans" the dir of compiled binaries and leftovers from the compilation process, ready for a clean recompile06:32
jubeistartX gives me the error (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device06:32
Q_Continuumokay, how do I get a actually useable file browser?  I hate this how I can't get back "up" a directory - I want some buttons, or my browse capability.06:32
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karljpQ: let us know when you find one, I'd like one too.06:33
nickrudjubei, lol, I help people with rez probs and maybe getting the right driver, thats it :)06:33
Q_Continuumhow about howto default to the "browse" that I can get when I right-click on say, a CDROM or something.06:33
Q_ContinuumI can right-click and go "Browse folder" I want THAT as my default.06:34
jubeiOkay thanks nick. I've been working on this prob for couple of days now. No one can help me =)06:34
nickrudjubei, don't forget to update the thread if you find the fix.06:34
jubeirjr06:35
dcravenQ_Continuum: gconf-editor --> /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser... Google is fun.06:35
SQL_Samhow do i know when alien finishes? will i get my command $back?06:35
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gbhatanyone using gnomebaker?06:35
SQL_Samnever mind06:35
NigelSQ_Continuum: what is annoying you the most? is it the way the window closes and it opens another one? You can certainly always browse, but shuttleworths decision to make it always close the last dir up annoys me, I changed it in the end06:35
geneo93SQL_Sam:  if you didn't flag it it will install it06:36
Q_Continuumgconf-editor...?06:36
Q_Continuumfound it.06:36
GammaRayQ_Continuum: nautilus prefs?06:36
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gbhatHow do I create a video DVD using gnomebaker?just drag and drop audio_ts and video_ts?06:36
nickrudThat close window behind as I drill down, leave last folder open when I open a doc, it actually matches the way I work.06:36
SQL_Sami did sudo alien -i cinelerra-1.2.2-1.i386.rpm06:36
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SQL_Samit finished06:37
nickrudno more remembering to middle click :)06:37
geneo93SQL_Sam:  then its installed06:37
dcravennickrud: I'm not a fan either.06:37
TechLordis there any solution to the transcode problem06:37
SQL_Samnow i got to figure out how to start it06:37
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nickruddcraven, you misread me. I like ti.06:38
geneo93sql just type it in terminal06:38
ubuntuonce i've installed the linux-patch-ubuntu package, how do i patch the kernel sources with it? I don't want to build/install the kernel. just patch06:38
nickruds/ti/it06:38
dcravennickrud: I know you did, but the other guy didn't ;P06:38
NigelSjubei: I don't recognise that protocol, is your mouse a bit unusual? also, does that path exist? e.g. /dev/input/mice also those are strange options to have i'd have thought, I don't need to specify the other options06:38
SQL_Samwholy cow!06:38
SQL_Samit worked!!06:38
nickrudok, I'm in my usual state: confused06:38
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dcravennickrud: nevermind :)06:39
SQL_Samthis thing is cool06:39
nickrudok, and thanks :)06:39
jubeiOption      "Protocol" "evdev" I have used that b4 in mandrake 10.0. I have a logitech mx300. I want to use evdev in quake 1 for ultra smooth input. /dev/input/mice exists.06:39
jubeiapparently "Dev Name" and "Dev Phys" are unneccesary. taking them out doesnt help though06:40
NigelSthey aren't needed nope.06:40
jubeido you know what the protocol auto-dev will do? Someone in #kde suggested that06:41
jubei?06:41
dazedSQL_Sam: shocked that something worked on linux??? thats unusual06:41
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SQL_Samno that i didnt have to mess with it first06:41
NigelSjubei: have you tried different protocols yet? e.g. ImPS/206:41
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jubeiIt works fine if I remove protocol06:42
jubeiand the default one was fine to06:42
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NigelSright, so the problem is specfically with evdev06:42
jubeii think default was ImPS/206:42
jubeiIt would seem so06:42
] BreliC[SQL_Sam, how is it?  The computer requirements seem quite high!06:43
] BreliC[4gb ram?06:43
] BreliC[sheesh06:43
SQL_Samcrap it crashes.....06:43
nickrudjubei, I remember something from yesterday about increasing mouse resolution06:43
jubeiyep06:43
jubeidid that06:43
jubeiworking nicely =)06:43
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nickrudthe source patch?06:43
jubeiYeah. 500hz06:43
SQL_Samwhen i try to load a file it crashes06:44
jubeigot 800dpi enabled to06:44
nickrudok06:44
SQL_Samokay - how do i remove it now?06:44
jubeiYou play games nick?06:44
artI am really new to Linux, i need plugins to play my music help06:44
nickrudno, It was perversely interesting :)06:44
geneo93SQL_Sam:  maybe you need codecs06:44
arti do but can't figure out how to get them06:44
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SQL_Sami have a feeling that it is my low quality system06:45
artdoes any one know where to get the codecs?06:45
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SQL_Samto remove it using alien do i just:  alien -r XXX.rpm?06:46
arti have totem06:46
Juhazart, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:46
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randabishello fellas06:47
nickrudthat'll hook you up06:47
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nickrudhuh, paste failed :)06:47
crimsunSQL_Sam: no, alien creates a deb. You'd use dpkg to remove it.06:48
capiI'm fairly new to linux, I know the basics, but I'd like to learn more about the system. Anyone with a little more experience think of a fun project i could do that would help me learn the system a little better?06:48
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liable_capi: install debian :)06:48
randabiscapi: a gentoo installation or a linux from scratch installation06:48
crimsuncapi: break something.06:48
geneo93hi crimsun06:48
nickrudcapi, looking thru /etc/init.d helped me a lot06:48
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crimsunhi geneo9306:48
cens0redcrimsun lol06:49
sgoodwinwhat do I do to set a folder, and everything in it so that anyone can see into it06:49
sgoodwinset permissions I mean06:49
geneo93crimsun:  trying to get gnomeradio working06:49
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randabissgoodwin: man chmod06:49
SQL_Samcrap how do i get out of a man page!06:49
dcravenq06:49
randabisSQL_Sam: press Q06:49
geneo93esc06:50
SQL_Samwhwe06:50
SQL_Samwhre06:50
SQL_Samwhew06:50
SQL_Samlol06:50
SQL_Samgotta stop drinking and typing06:50
randabisheh06:50
nickrudSQL_Sam, I thought you were underage :)06:50
sgoodwinalso, what needs to be installed in order for things like rhythmbox to be able to play mp3's?06:50
geneo93nickrud:  he's just sniffing caps06:51
SQL_Samdude im 3606:51
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nickrudtwice06:51
randabissgoodwin: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:51
geneo93man your older than dirt06:52
SQL_Samlol06:52
NigelSjubei: change your device to /dev/input/event206:52
SQL_Sami feel like it some times with you young whipper snappers06:52
nickrudhe's still a kid :P06:52
liable_SQL_Sam: irc is much more interesting when drunk06:52
randabisheh I'm 21 myself06:52
geneo93yup06:52
geneo9357 here06:52
randabisI just got my texas class A commercial drivers license on thursday :)06:52
SQL_Samright on06:52
] BreliC[q?  and here all these years i've been using Shift+ZZ to get out of man pages06:52
SQL_SamI thought I would be the oldest one....06:53
nickrud49, and humbled06:53
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crimsun] BreliC[: either will work, since pager keys are used06:53
liable_] BreliC[: you edit them?06:53
crimsungeneo93: sorry, don't use it06:53
randabisI got a job with werner enterprises. I start orientation next sunday :)06:53
jubeiNigelS /dev/input/event2 doesnt exist =(06:53
geneo93crimsun:  you dont use much then06:54
SQL_Samhey what is better to use when using dpkg deinstall or purge?06:54
NigelSjubei: module evdev is loaded?06:54
] BreliC[liable_, nope, the first person who showed me how to exit taught me that way, so i just figured...heh06:54
liable_] BreliC[: heh06:54
jubeiNigelS: lsmod reports it.06:54
jubeievdev                   9856  006:55
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NigelSjubei: hmm, ok, have you tried /dev/input/mouse0 and also what is in /dev/input ?06:55
fejaorhow can I change the monitor configuration in order to change the reolution to something else besides 640x480?? That's the only option it appears on the Screen resolution menu06:56
Q_Continuumdamn Cedega takes awhile to compile. lol.  8+ minutes.06:56
crimsungeneo93: yeah, limited ram, a slow pc, and a dead HD will do that to you.06:56
capiis init.d a folder or a file, I'm sort of confused. it looks like a folder, but I've seen it refered to like it's a file.06:56
SQL_Samwhat i find funny is when Britanny spears or whoever the new young group that comes out with a new song and I hear my kids going ga ga over it - i got to remind them that it is a remake 99.99% of the time06:56
jubeiNigelS: ls /dev/input/ event0  event1  mice06:56
NigelSjubei: try event106:56
IIIEARS1capi - are you still there?06:56
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capiyep Still here.06:57
geneo93crimsun:  maybe you need to goto india to get a job06:57
fejaorhow can I change the monitor configuration in order to change the reolution to something else besides 640x480?? That's the only option it appears on the Screen resolution menu06:57
nickrudgeneo93, crimsun is not someone to insult.06:57
jubeiNigelS: but cat /proc/bus/input/devices reveals H: Handlers=mouse0 event2 ts006:57
geneo93nickrud:  its just a joke06:57
capifejoar there is a nice tutorial on ubuntulinux. i can't help you unless you want to chege the CLI res.06:57
jubeiNigelS: worth trying event1?06:58
crimsungeneo93: I've considered it, actually :)06:58
geneo93the us exports all the good jobs06:58
NigelSjubei: maybe it counts up differently :), does event1 work? assuming 2-->1 and 1-->006:58
wbeck85why on earth can i not compile audacity?06:58
IIIEARS1i am very new to linux (72 hours -heh) i had fun with a sytem monitor called "torsmo" it is a transparent desktop overlay that can b cnfigured using scripting to display just about anything.06:58
rymanare there any linux books for newbie that you guys recommend ? or any ebook or site ?06:58
fejaoranyone__06:58
SQL_Samme too - that's where all the jobs are goin06:58
fejaor??06:58
crimsunwbeck85: apt-get build-dep audacity06:58
crimsunwbeck85: then compile it06:58
capiryman check out linux cookbook.06:58
Kamping_Kaiserfejaor... what we were doing is the only way06:58
wbeck85ok06:58
GammaRayfejaor: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:58
wbeck85ill try that, thanks06:58
capiThere is a free version of the first edition online06:58
jubeiNigelS: cat /proc/bus/input/devices says event1 is "PC Speaker"06:59
jubei=)06:59
crimsunwbeck85: keep in mind that 1.2.3 is available in universe06:59
rymancapi|  thanks06:59
IIIEARS1Great! nice tip.06:59
dcravenfejaor: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:59
capihehe you found the post :)07:00
geneo93hey guys i'm retired so i dont work07:00
IIIEARS1Hmm - is my computer on i haven't rebooted in 3 days. - is that normal? - lol07:00
nickrud57 and retired? what's wrong with you?07:00
jubeiNigelS: you have read the details of my problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2934107:00
crimsun57 and retired? that'd be the life! ;)07:00
geneo93not money hungry or greedy07:01
dcravenIIIEARS1: pretty normal I suppose.07:01
flex_how do i find out how many kb is 128mb07:01
dcravenflex_: google07:01
wbeck85crimson, yeah, but it doesnt seem to be working for me. First the sound doesnt work(trying to use alsa with the asound.conf fix in the howto section of ubuntuforums.org) and second, it is ugly :)07:01
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flex_with calculator somehow07:01
IIIEARS1not for the redmond OS - wide grin07:01
geneo93flex_:  multiply by 102407:02
randabisI wish wpa supplicant wasn't insanely difficult to setup07:02
LevanderHey bob2, you told me earlier about cfengine2, is there any difference between cfengine and cfengine2?  It would just help with my searches.07:02
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crimsunwbeck85: you should kill any sound daemons and just use alsa's oss emulation directly with audacity07:02
capiOut of curiousity what editor do most people here use? I grew fond of vi and have only attempted to try emacs. Seems powerful, but I'm still undecided07:02
dcravencapi: Vim07:02
crimsuncapi: use whatever makes you more productive07:03
SQL_Samwell removed cinelerra07:03
wbeck85after doing apt-get build-dev audacity, i am still getting the error "MeterToolBar.cpp:104: error: variable `wxPaintDC dc' has initializer but07:03
wbeck85   incomplete type"07:03
geneo93kedit07:03
Xenguycapi: vi is oldschool; use vim instead -- much better07:03
bob2Levander: I think it's just a newer version07:03
IIIEARS1<< - lol is afraid of VI - where are the fancy buttons? - lol07:03
sgoodwinare there any 3rd party repos to add to my list?07:03
XenguyIIIEARS1: oh the home row :-)07:03
Xenguys/oh/on/07:03
SQL_Sami hear you vi scares me too07:04
dcravengvim has buttons.07:04
crimsunsgoodwin: yes, lots. Please don't add them - or if you choose to, be aware that you may be smacking yourself in the forehead with a sledgehammer.07:04
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geneo93u could use pico or joe07:04
Xenguydcraven: true - I like gvim a lot actually07:04
nickrudbeen using vim for 4 years, still can't yank, but it does the job :)07:04
capiI do use vim, just thought I'd say vi since thats the root of vim and all the other branches07:04
sgoodwincrimsun, kk07:04
thenukenano is nice07:04
IIIEARS1nah - i'll just have to learn it - sounds like it is well worth the effort.07:04
thenukepico seems to be an alias for nano07:05
dcravenI'm outtie.07:05
capibye dcraven07:05
pestilenceis there a good program to manage mp3's, something that will help me rotate the songs that are on my portable mp3 player from the songs that are on my hard drive?07:05
Levanderbob2: you know, I'm looking at this cfengine stuff, but I don't have a whole network of machines to configure.  I just want to remember why the hell I made a change, and which change I made to which file.  I'm thinking I might use svn or cvs, and just never do a "check out", just "check ins".  That way, cvs would never mess up my permissions, and I have a log (the versioning repository) of the changes I had made.07:05
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pestilencei'm looking at rhythmbox, but it doesn't seem to have the capability to actually *move* mp3's07:05
XenguyLevander: RCS is good for simple tracking of config files (for example)07:06
pestilenceperhaps i'm wrong, in which case, somebody please correct me.07:06
nickrudpestilence, rhythmbox is a *player*, nt a mangar07:06
nickrud*manager07:06
rymanare there any site about linux for newbie ?07:06
pestilencenickrud: you should tell that to whoever put "management" in the about screen ;)07:06
IIIEARS1linuxquestions.org - ?07:06
capitons of them, ubuntuforums.org is a great one for ubuntu.07:07
LevanderXenguy: that's why I was wondering if I should use svn or cvs (hadn't thought of rcs).  I know svn is the latest and greatest, but not sure why I would need all those features.  Or, really if the features would do any harm.07:07
nickrudpestilence, the about box was written by "management"07:07
LevanderXenguy: why is rcs better for simple repositories like what I'm thinking of?07:07
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pestilencenickrud: nice.07:07
pestilenceany suggestions on music *management* software, then07:07
nickrudeasytag does a lot of nice things with music files07:08
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IIIEARS1any good programs for synthesizing computer sounds and converting them to *.wav files?07:09
geneo93what sounds07:09
pestilencei'm looking for something that will help me rotate the songs on my mp3 player, as it only holds 512 megs, but my mp3 collection is larger than that.  it doesn't look like easytag is quite the thing07:09
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bob2Levander: sure07:09
bob2Levander: rcs is good for that, too, since it's easier to add files07:09
Levanderbob2: sure what?07:09
IIIEARS1i would love to add some computer tones to buttons on a webpage07:09
Levanderbob2: okay, i'll look into that, *easier to add files* thanks07:10
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nickrudpestilence, no, that's not what you mean :)07:10
Levanderi really need to find an article on the web comparing them07:10
ryman~/.gnome07:10
Levanderbob2: but I'm still going to have the issue where the repository doesn't preserve file permissions?07:10
rymanwhere do I go to get to there ~/.gnome  ?07:10
rymanmy computer ?07:10
bob2Levander: yes07:10
IIIEARS1been playing with NVU for page design - very nive program.07:11
nickrudryman, your home folder07:11
Levanderokay, at least I know what to search on now.07:11
bob2Levander: but /etc is small enough that I bet just tar'ing the whole thing every day or week or whatever won't be an issue07:11
LevanderThanks bob2, and Xenguy too07:11
rymannickrud|  then I make gnome folder ?07:11
IIIEARS1and it has spell check - grin07:11
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bob2my /etc is like 13MB07:11
Levanderbob2: why do that? to preserve the permissions?07:11
bob2Levander: yeah07:11
bob2hm, mine's 51MB now07:11
bob2I bet it's gconf damage07:12
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nickrudryman, no, menu bar at top, Places->Home Folder07:12
rymannickrud|  yeah I'm there but there is no Gnome folder07:12
nickrudto see the hiddent files (the ones that start with a dot) right click, show hidden files07:12
rymannickrud|  thanks07:12
Levanderokay, am kinda new to backup strategies, would you just have one tarball backup of /etc, or would you have rotating backups - like a set of five where each gets overwritten once a week?  or, is that to obsessive?07:12
wbeck85well, i feel like a dope07:13
Q_ContinuumLevander if you have the space you can never be too "obsessive" (imo)07:13
Q_Continuumthen again, I don't do any backups yet - still getting my system fully working. heh.07:13
XenguyLevander: there's a lot of backup strategies; some are simple, and some are more complex07:13
Levanderyeah, guess just worried about creating work for myself07:13
nickrudQ_Continuum, :)07:13
wbeck85after staring at my error messages for like 10 minutes, i noticed a little "permission denied" comment07:13
dazzeddoes openoffice come with an html editor...or are there other good oens to use?07:13
LevanderXenguy: so in the scenario bob2 recommends, tarring /etc ever so often, which would you recommend?07:14
sgoodwindazzed, bluefish07:14
nickruddazzed, bluefish07:14
wbeck85i tried sudo make and poof07:14
dazzedthanks07:14
wbeck85it worked07:14
wbeck85no, wait, it didnt07:14
wbeck85crap07:14
Q_Continuumdazzed I'd check out NVU.  ww.nvu.com (based on the Mozilla Composer)07:14
XenguyLevander: well I do a complete backup every night07:14
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crimsunwbeck85: please try the audacity package from universe after killing esd/artsd07:14
LevanderXenguy: and for how long do you save a backup? or do you overwrite the backup every night?07:14
dazzedQ_Continuum: sounds good i will...even on windows i had abou 3 html editors id use in conjuction cuz they each offered their own strong points07:15
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IIIEARS1dazzed - "NVU" is good07:15
XenguyLevander: but a 'real' backup system would do something like a weekly complete backup, with daily 'incremental' backups, for example07:15
LevanderXenguy: you know, to do bobs idea, I'm kind of thinking I would only need to do a backup every time I install a new package.07:15
XenguyLevander: I basically have 2 nights worth - not the best strategy, but I have something :-)07:15
LevanderXenguy: yeah, I see what you're saying07:16
dazzedgood good07:16
LevanderXenguy: I'm about to start doing back-ups myself and am trying to get a "feel"07:16
Levanderthanks Xenguy07:16
XenguyLevander: your data is likely to change all the time (email, bookmarks, etc.)07:16
XenguyLevander: yw07:16
LevanderXenguy: yeah, but for now, I'm just backing up my system configuration files07:16
LevanderXenguy: later I'll start backing everything up.07:17
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wbeck85ohmy07:17
wbeck85oh my oh my07:17
XenguyLevander: I'm trying to remember the backup utility one guy in our LUG was recommending07:17
Sphearionwell I have done it and Im likeing it, I have switched from fedora to ubuntu..... and needless to say, its nice07:17
wbeck85crimsun: thank you. I just wasted over an hr of my life07:17
wbeck85killall esd worked like a charm07:17
wbeck85thankyou07:17
wbeck85esd07:18
LevanderXenguy: was it backuppc?07:18
nickrudLevander, there's there's things in /var you should backup also, starting with /var/lib/dpkg07:18
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transgressso happy that my wireless works well07:18
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sgoodwintransgress, on laptop or pc?07:19
Levandernickrud: I'm just worried about getting a "log" of the changes I've made to configuration files.  bob2 pointed out that versioning control system don't preserve file permisssions. So I'm only talking about backing up files that I would modify07:19
Levanderso that I would know what their permissions were07:19
transgresssgoodwin: lappy07:19
XenguyLevander: found it - rsnapshot07:19
dazzedYES! i got my server back!!!07:19
sgoodwintransgress, which chipset?07:19
transgresssgoodwin: i was popping in and out of here all night..07:19
Levandercool, i'm gonna google it now07:19
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transgressbroadcom something something07:19
sgoodwinon which lappy?07:20
dazzedohhh im so happy!07:20
IIIEARS1listening intently to back up strategies - it won't be long before i "munge" something - heh07:20
transgresshp pavilion zv5410us07:20
nickrudLevander, ok, I missed that part :)07:20
g14Xenguy: Take a look at this: http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/07:20
sgoodwintransgress, fun fun07:20
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transgressit is07:20
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g14Xenguy: That will save you some time if you do a full backup everynight07:21
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Xenguyg14: tx07:21
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Levanderg14: that tool does look interesting.07:21
xMaximexhow do i get rid of esd and use ALSA?07:21
SphearionI have 2 sata harddrives in my computer 1x 250gig (the main that ubuntu is installed on) and a 2nd 160gig that nothing is on, how would I go about formatting the second drive and using it as "a place to store stuff for ALL users"07:21
Levandernickrud: you're not using rcs to track sysadmin changes are you?? that's what I'm thinking about doing07:22
pestilencexMaximex: look under "system" "preferences" "sound"07:22
g14Xenguy: np, it works pretty well for me and was suggested by some guys at my LUG07:22
IIIEARS1rdiff (drools) looks good07:22
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nickrudLevander, been doing it for a while, but since I've never had to restore a system .....07:22
pestilencexMaximex: and "system" "preferences" "Multimedia systems selector"07:22
IIIEARS1lol - "i need more power!"07:22
pestilencexMaximex: turn off "start server automaticall"07:22
Levandernickrud: you got an article or link or something that talks about that?07:22
pestilencexMaximex: and change default system to alsa07:22
Levanderthat's what I'm trying to figure out07:23
Natejust out of curiosity, have any of you had problems installing ubuntu on a system with one or more other installations of linux?07:23
NigelSjubei: could you post the content of lsmod and also what happens in syslog when you plug the mouse in on that post? It might make it easier to see what's happened07:23
Levandernickrud: why use rcs instead of cvs?07:23
Levanderand instead of svn?07:23
nickrudLevander, all I ever needed was ci -i and co -o, since I don't code and don't share07:23
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nickrud*co -i07:23
Levanderand how big a deal is it for you that rcs doesn't preserve file permissions?07:23
geneo93nate i have 3 other distros here07:23
capion the same note as Sphearion I have two computers on the same network. Is there any way I could config my Linux to look on another computers file system for it's files, and what type of slowdown would be expected.07:24
flex_im having problems doing this xorg.conf myself, is there anything that will autodetect my monitor and set it up?07:24
nickrudnever caught that part, that's why I'm reevalutating :)07:24
Levandernickrud: that was bob2's issue with the system, file permissions07:24
Nategeneo: do all of them still boot after you've installed ubuntu?07:24
Levanderlol!07:24
Levanderthat's funny!07:24
geneo93yes07:24
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geneo93nate i used lilo07:24
Nateah07:24
Levandernickrud: bob2's recommendation was cfengine2, but one blurb I read about it was "yeah, it takes a while to set up and is difficult, but once you get it setup, you'll wonder how you ever lived without it"07:25
Natefor some reason, I can use ubuntu, but RH9 and FC3 give me read-only error messages07:25
Levandernickrud: it's really for when you have a network of machines you want to configure the same way07:25
IIIEARS1flex_ - yep i had the same trouble - had to use a pencil to copy the settings from windows - ugh, there must be a better way...07:25
Levandernickrud: don't think I need to do all that work07:25
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fejaorhow can i upgrade from firefox 1.0.2 to firefox 1.0.3__07:25
fejaor??07:25
geneo93Nate:  i also have 2 versions of beos07:25
bob2fejaor: just wait07:25
nickrudLevander, I used rcs so I could roll back changes that didn't work07:26
Natehm.07:26
nickrudbackup is differnet07:26
Levandernickrud: cvs and svn can't do the same thing?07:26
fejaorjajaja07:26
Nateaight, thanks07:26
fejaorthe new version is already on07:26
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Levanderfejaor: no easy way yet, unless you want to download directly from mozilla.org07:26
Tuxicityhi. Does anyone else get "internal server error" when doing "apt-get update"?07:26
nickrudbackup is to alternate media, I backup all of /etc/ (including the rcs) so I don't think it's a problem in my case07:26
bob2Tuxicity: don't use backports07:26
LevanderTuxicity: not unless there system is broken07:26
Sphearionanyone? any ideas on how to format another harddrive and make it readwrite to ALL users?07:27
fejaorthat's what i wanna do but how??07:27
bob2Sphearion: you need to be way more specific07:27
Sphearionbob I already was specific once and noone answered me07:27
Levandernickrud: so you're just saying that in your backup, you have all the file permissions?07:27
flex_whats the command to configure xorg.conf and autodetect monitor07:27
Levandernickrud: because you backed up all of /etc07:27
nickrudyeah, because rcs is not my backup, just my version control07:27
bob2Sphearion: not really07:28
Sphearionbob2, I have 2 serial ata drives, I want one to be "storage" for ALL users, as well as shared on my lan, but I need to fdisk and format it probably im guessing cfdisk then mke2fs07:28
bob2Sphearion: do you care if windows can use it or not?07:28
Sphearionbob2, i don't have windows :)07:28
Tuxicitybob2, hehe, how'd you know I use backports? ;)07:28
bob2Tuxicity: because in addition to the packages being broken, their webserver is too07:28
Sphearionwindows is for sissies :)07:28
Levandernickrud: i see, how often do you backup?  just after you install a new package?  and how many backups do you keep?  or, do you just overwrite it every night?07:28
bob2Sphearion: then just format it as whatever filesystem you like (I'd go with ext3), then mount it somewhere07:28
Sphearionbob2, so mke2fs -j07:29
nickrudLevander, when I think of it, I have a script I run overnight to backup to CD07:29
nickrud*when I think of it*07:29
Sphearionhow do I find out what /dev/ entry it is07:29
Levanderbob2: that jdong guy said something about ubuntu doing something like backports themselves.  You hear anything like that?07:29
bob2Sphearion: or mkfs -t ext3 or whatever07:29
bob2Levander: no way07:29
bob2Sphearion: 'dmesg | grep ^sd'07:29
Levandernickrud: and every night the backup just overwrites itself?07:29
nickrudLevander, for my purposes, it's sufficient07:30
Sphearionbob2,  nothing returned07:30
Levanderbob2: yeah, is to bad, would be really nice to have something like backports that kept us in the latest version of firefox and openoffice07:30
Sphearionfound it sdb07:30
nickrudLevander, I've always wanted to say, YMMV07:30
bob2Levander: dude, it's only six months07:30
bob2Levander: and for the last 3 months or so, it's usually fine to use the development version of ubuntu07:30
xMaximexit is possible to get more than one apps to use OSS sound ?07:31
bob2xMaximex: not easily07:31
bob2xMaximex: ie they have to all use esd07:31
dazzednow i cant get into my server for some reason07:31
jubeiNigelS: what is syslog?07:31
Levandernickrud: oh yeah, for home use, you probably don't even have to backup at all.  I'm about to do same thing and just wanted to get "feel".07:31
Levandernickrud: thanks for letting me know what you're doing07:31
xMaximexbob2, the problem is that  Teamspeak can't use esd :(07:31
XenguyLevander: you know, if you have enough disk space, it is easy to simply copy previous backup files for as many days as you want (i.e. not efficient, but would work just fine is you are not short of disk space)07:31
nickrudLevander, np, It was good to think about it again.07:31
bob2xMaximex: you'd need to talk to the teamspeak people about that07:31
bob2xMaximex: or use esdsp07:32
randabismeh I'd just download the latest firefox from mozilla.org anyway. The ubuntu debs absolutely blow07:32
bob2er, esddsp07:32
Sphearionok bob2  to allow all users to read / write to that mount point what do I chown / chmod it?07:32
bob2randabis: in what way?07:32
Levanderbob2: yeah, but like right now, openoffice has finally release version 2, with lots of improvements over version 1, and ubuntu's still on OOo 1.1.07:32
LevanderAnd probably will be for another six months.07:32
bob2Sphearion: give it the same permissions as /tmp07:32
bob2Levander: dude, oo2 is in hoary07:32
Kamping_Kaisermy god. i just realised i have had ubuntu installed for almost 3 months. i used to be reinstalling Windows ever month or so07:32
randabisbob2 lack of the real firefox icon, not as stable for me, and definitely slower than the mozilla.org one for me07:32
Levanderbob2: what's package name?07:32
bob2randabis: dude, blame the firefox people for the icon thing07:32
bob2randabis: if less stable or slower, please file a bug so it can be fixed07:33
bob2Levander: openoffice.org207:33
Spheariondone :) thanks bob207:33
Sphearionchmod 177707:33
Tuxicitybob2, ok then, backports sounded too much like backdoors anyways ;-)07:33
IIIEARS1Kamping - "" - "Windows" = Install, Connect, Reinstall.07:33
randabisbob2: that was just a sidenote. My main concern has been stability and speed. Ubuntu's firefox has always had those problems and I don't understand why07:33
bob2Sphearion: now anyone can create stuff there, but random other people can't delete it on them07:33
bob2randabis: have you filed a bug?07:34
Sphearionnice nice07:34
randabisbob2 yes, some time ago07:34
Levanderdpkg -l openoffice.org-debian-files on my hoary system says version 1.1.3-3+107:34
Tuxicityyou guys type at *lightning* speed!07:34
Sphearionhow would I make it so the users could create and delete what they made? or can they already make/delete what they made?07:34
bob2Levander: yes, that's not the package07:34
bob2Sphearion: users can do whatever they want to their own files07:34
Sphearionnice nice07:34
Sphearionthanks bob207:34
bob2you're welcome07:34
bob2randabis: which one, out of interest?07:35
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Levanderbob2: okay, sorry, didn't see what you wrote after, checking openoffice2 out now, did find it in apt repositories07:35
Sphearionnow time to share that drive on the network07:35
mjchmm for some reason gnome is hanging on login after a fresh install07:35
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randabisbob2: as I said, it's been some time ago so I can't recall atm07:35
bob2mjc: for all users or just one?07:35
bob2randabis: ok07:35
mjcbob2: repeatedly hanging on reinstall, lemme try making another user07:35
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LevanderWell, I be damned, they did get OOo2 in hoary.07:36
randabisbob2: firefox 1.0.3 is worth the download anyway imho07:36
bob2Levander: it wasn't stable enough to be the default, but it's there07:36
mjcbob2: yes, all users07:36
nickrudLevander, it's buggy :)07:36
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mjcmade a user named test, same deal07:36
Levanderah, yeah, well the OOo2 release was pushed up pretty close to the hoary release07:37
jubeihow do I check the "syslog"?07:38
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cykluswhat is a good editor/ide for programming php?07:38
nickrudLevander, hoary is far behind, I use oo for production use, don't use oo207:38
bob2cyklus: emacs!07:38
Levandercyklus: bluefish is what lots like, i just use emacs07:38
Levanderbluefish is easier to learn07:38
mjccyklus: vim, bluefish, kdevelop07:38
jubeikdevelop looks good07:39
Levandernickrud: yeah, luckily I don't need OOo for much right now anyway07:39
nickrudLevander, I use it a lot, daily, and oo2 is not ready for prime time :)07:39
mjcbob2: it appears to be a dbus, keyring, or session manager issue07:40
Levandernickrud: oh, okay, I didn't understand, I htough you just meant hoary's version, didn't know you meant just OOo2 in general07:40
holycowoo2 sue is looking damned fine tho  you gotta admin07:40
mjchmm I can't ping localhost07:40
holycowit already starts up damn fast, and opens up huge ms native docs without any problem07:40
nickrudLevander, everything I say is in the context of debian/ubuntu, it's all I use07:40
nickrudI depend on those 900+ good guys07:41
mjcbob2: found it, was because I didn't let it bring up lo07:41
holycownickrud, we use oo for production too, we have two pilot projects07:41
holycowwill be switching to oo2 when its released for sure07:41
nickrudholycow, so how's the later versions of oo2?07:41
Levanderit is a  disadvantage for ubuntu though that you gotta wait six months for the new stuff.  On Windows, any time anything new comes out, you just go to their web site and click "install".07:41
holycownickrud, awesome is the only way to describe it07:42
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roshanwhat is the name of the default ubuntu mouse theme?07:42
nickrudholycow, I07:42
nickrud've tried some of the builds that have shown up, and I like, but... Well, 1.999.whatever is not 2.0 :)07:43
holycowif you mean how is oo2 in terms of stability, well its beta, if you mean how it is feature wise, i think you and i agree :)07:44
Levanderholycow: how much progress have they made on OOo Base?  That app looked funny to me when I played with it a month or two ago.07:44
nickrudholycow, concur :)07:44
capicyklus: matters on if you have money to spend or not.07:44
IIIEarswill qtparted format a USB drive on Ubuntu?07:44
holycowLevander, not much change will happend with base from here on it, it is what it is07:44
holycowand its mostly a start, i personally find it easy to use07:44
Sphearionwhat is the default user/pass of a samba share. if I access it from windows xp it asks for a user/pass?07:45
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pestilencenickrud: it depends on how many 9's there are.07:45
Levanderholycow: have you played with it? didn't you htink it was funny to?  it was awhile ago when I played with it, maybe six to eight weeks ago07:45
fejaorhow does the sources.list file should look like in order to receive all the upgrades correctly__07:45
holycowi'm glad they arent copying access, i think oo way is better07:45
fejaor??07:45
pestilencenickrud: if there are enough nines, it is actually 2.07:45
holycowLevander, i probably thought it was different, maybe i'm misinterpreting what you mean by funny :)07:45
nickrudpestilence, and you can never step into the same river :)07:45
fejaorhow can I download and installa w32codecs__07:46
fejaor??07:46
holycowLevander, i haven't used it enough to have any real opinion on it tho07:46
holycowfejaor, read ubuntu website, info is on there07:46
goldfishfejaor: www.ubuntuguide.org07:46
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nickrudpestilence, I wasn't being flippant, it's an old greek philosophy joke07:46
Levanderholycow: it was like some of the UI controls in a window couldn't be resized, so the text in a list box would be cut off, so you couldn't read all the text because you couldn't make the list box bigger, stuff like that07:46
IIIEarshm - rdiff is nice! :)07:46
fejaorthat-s what I read but I ran the upgrade or tried to download something and marked me a lot of errors on the sites07:47
pestilencenickrud: oh, i don't get it.  in any case, i was being a math nerd for a second.07:47
fejaorand Im trying to install the w32codecs exactly how www.ubuntuguide.org tells but is not working....errors07:47
holycowLevander, *hmmm* not sure if that has been fixed  yet, anywhoo just wait, its not scheduled for release until late summer anyway :)07:47
nickrudpestilence, then you know that you can always halve the distance, and never reach the destination :)07:47
pestilencenickrud: sure07:47
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nickrudsame joke07:48
pestilencenickrud: ok07:48
pestilence:)07:48
fejaoras well as error in the libdvdcss207:48
flex_hrm, i guess theres no flash player for amd6407:48
flex_and I cant install cedega .deb file07:48
aimazanyone know how to get firefox to load a webpage in clipboard when you middle click on firefox, it used to to it when I used debian07:48
transgressflex_: yeah i can't get it either07:48
Levanderyeah, well I'm looking forward to OOo2, lots of hopes for OOo Base.  It will rock to have a cross platform cross database SQL client, that's free!07:48
nickrudthank god for leibnitz07:48
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flex_32bit apps wont run with amd64?07:48
transgressno07:48
flex_i thought there were libraries07:49
aimazflex_, they should07:49
holycowLevander, absolutely07:49
pestilenceindeed.07:49
Kamping_Kaiseri thought you cant mix 32 and 64, so if its a 64 system, you need 64 debs07:49
flex_dpkg: error processing cedega_4.3-1_i386.deb (--install):07:49
flex_ package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)07:49
dazzedgrrr07:49
dazzedi cant login to my server07:49
dazzedstupid gftp07:50
Levandersomething still gets to me when I can use an app no matter what platform I'm on and have it act the same way.  Don't have to re-orient myself or anything.07:50
LevanderIt's like Microsoft doesn't even matter!07:50
aimazflex_, you have to fiddle a bit more, I seem to remember seeing a guide on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/07:50
flex_so I might be able to get my programs to work?07:51
holycowLevander, ahhh... so you have finally ascended to the next level07:51
aimazflex_, yes07:51
holycowwelcome :)07:51
Sphearionhow do I restart samba without restarting the computer?07:51
aimazflex_, i think it's something to do with chroot07:51
holycowyes, microsoft is irrelevant, they are already dead just don't know it yet07:51
aimazso it's probablt not pretty07:51
crimsunSphearion: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart07:51
Sphearionthanks crimsun07:51
crimsunnp07:51
Sphearioncrimsun, happen to know why I cannot login to my samba shares from an XP machine?07:52
Kamping_Kaiserxp is a bitch07:52
nickrudLevander, ms hasn't mattered to me for years, I still run win98 only for one app, since no one can tell me how to run the Thomas Guide under wind or qemu HInt, Hint07:52
crimsunSphearion: probably a username-permissions issue(s)07:52
Sphearioneven if Im using my own username/pass07:53
Raskallagh.. this is OT, but I have downloaded a couple of lost episodes from donkey and cant use them. they have "repack" in the filename. anyone knows what to do with the file?07:53
Kamping_KaiserMS broke the samba standard again with XP, so support is crap07:53
Sphearionxp decides to change the username (in the box anyway) computername/username07:53
pestilencenickrud: what's so special about thomas guide that makes it difficult to use under qemu?07:53
crimsunSphearion: what do {auth,daemon}.log tell you?07:53
Kamping_Kaiseras they did with 2K07:53
aimazflex_, this might be of use http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457507:53
capiwhat is samba?07:53
nickrudIt can't access the cd, either as a loopback or directly thu /dev/cdrom07:53
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Tuxicityit would be better to make a Free NFS client for Windows07:54
pestilencenickrud: huh?  can't you set the command line paramter telling it to map /dev/cdrom to the d: drive?07:54
flex_thx07:54
transgresswhat would you want to set your 64 bit install to 32 bit programs for?07:54
nickrudbeen there, done that, works for anything I install under qemu except thomas guide07:54
pestilencenickrud: i don't have much experience with qemu, but i successfully installed windows 2k off a cd.07:54
Sphearionnothing, thats what those logs tell me07:55
pestilencenickrud: strange.07:55
aimaztransgress, in order to run packages not made for amd64 that are in i38607:55
Kamping_Kaisercapi smb is the file sharing system used by windows samba is the OSS implementation07:55
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Levanderwhat's the "thomas guide"? I'm googling it now and am coming up with books.07:55
pestilencenickrud: how about copying an installation over the network into qemu?07:55
dr_willisIts a guide to the TOm & Jerry cartoons! :P07:55
nickrudI've installed win95, win98, win2k, all of them cannot access that cd.07:55
Sphearioneven the /var/log/samba logs don't tell me anything07:56
nickrudI'm not about to spend vmware money to run something I need maybe 3 times a year :)07:56
crimsunSphearion: not even samba starting up?07:57
Levandernickrud: I still do do multimedia under windows, that's mostly what I use it for, haven't bothered to figure out rythmbox and all that other stuff...07:57
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Sphearioncrimsun, yes it shows that, but nothing else, and its not erroring07:57
pestilenceLevander: that's interesting, because mplayer plays many more formats than windows media player ;)07:57
nickrudLevander, just point rhythmbox at your root music directory, it'll do the rest.07:57
TuxicityLevander, i dont use rythmbox either. but XMMS doesnt need no learning:)07:58
Levandernickrud: yeah, maybe I should, just haven't even set up my sound card under ubuntu07:58
nickrudLevander, Thomas Guide is a map program, covers all of california.07:58
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Tuxicitynickrud, probably Google Maps is even better now!07:59
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nickrudTuxicity, not for a particular need I have, but I do use google maps a lot07:59
Levanderhey, is there any good app that will let me hit apache to play music through the sound card on the machine apache is set up on?  E.g., not streaming music the reverse.  I've been thinking about doing something for my home entertainment setup.08:00
crimsunLevander: yes, there's an xmms plugin for that08:00
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RaskallLevander: glirnath does a great job. glirnath.sourceforge.net08:00
Levandercrimsun: remember the name?08:01
dazzedanyone use gftp?08:01
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Levanderokay, google glirnath08:01
crimsunLevander: mod_xmms or something08:01
Levanderdazzed: it was buggy as hell in warty, i just use nautilus for gui ftp08:01
crimsunSphearion: logs don't even show your user authenticating?08:01
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dazzedlevander...ill give that a try08:01
Sphearioncrimsun, no08:01
crimsunSphearion: try searching the wiki and forums. I'm not a samba guru, sorry.08:02
nickruddazzed, occasionally08:02
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nickruddazzed, nevermind, Levander's answer is nice :)08:03
TwEeTHello08:03
dazzedlol08:03
Kamping_Kaiserperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:08:03
Kamping_Kaiser        LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en_GB:en_US:en",08:03
Kamping_Kaiser        LC_ALL = (unset),08:03
Kamping_Kaiser        LANG = "en_AU"08:03
dazzedim havin many o problems trying to get in my damn server08:03
Kamping_Kaiserwhats that unset thing?08:03
TwEeTDoes ubuntu come with support for prism54?08:03
LevanderRaskall: there are themes for glirnath? really not crazy about the default "look"08:03
Sphearioncrimsun, thanks anyway08:03
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goldfishhi guys i was just reading forums about i386 and i686, this is the output of 'uname -a' Linux nanafunk 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux08:03
goldfishdoes this mean i shud install the i686 kernel?08:03
RaskallLevander: I haven't found any. I am happy with the default tho'08:03
Levandergoldfish: it'd probably be a little faster, but not much08:04
goldfishkk08:04
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TwEeTDoes anyone have a Netgear WG511 network card?08:04
dr_willisKamping_Kaiser,  i think it means its Not set.08:04
elcugoldfish: what is your processor?08:04
LevanderRaskall: I wonder if it's done with good XHTML and CSS, then I could make my own theme08:04
flex_i think going back to i386 is good for now, i need to play my games08:04
cyphasehi all08:04
goldfishelcu: Intel Pentium M 1.7Ghz.08:04
LevanderRaskall: I've been teaching myself CSS and have gotten okay with it.08:04
cyphaseHello World08:04
yfirgoldfish: go for i68608:04
cyphase;)08:04
goldfishcool08:04
goldfishThanks.08:04
Levandergoldfish, you know to install the kernel meta-package? Called linux-image-686 or something like that?08:05
Tuxicitycyphase, hi :)08:05
RaskallLevander: hang on. I'll check08:05
fejaorhow can you update the kernel??08:05
Levanderalso, how much room you have left on your boot partition?08:05
goldfishLevander: How do I check? :)08:05
Tuxicitycyphase, return "hi";08:05
RaskallLevander: we have glirnath running all the time with mplayer as the player for all sound files.08:05
Levanderfejaor: from the questions you've been asking, I wouldn't try it if I were you, but "sudo apt-get linux-image-686" - if that's the right package name08:06
dazzedLevander, nickrud: i get an error when trying to go in through nautilus "cannot show folder contents"08:06
dazzedi can login fine on my windows comp08:06
dazzedthrough ie08:06
dazzedbut i want to do it on linux08:06
Levandergoldfish: "df -h" will list free space on all partitions08:06
RaskallLevander: yes. it's using css and php.. seems very simple and easy to mod.08:06
LevanderRaskall: oh cool, so mplayer can be the front end?  What protocol does glirnath use with mplayer?  Do other clients talk that protocol?08:07
goldfishFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on08:07
goldfish/dev/hda2              19G  8.8G  9.1G  49% /08:07
goldfishLevander: ^^08:07
goldfishthat what u mean?08:07
nickruddazzed, do want to share your password :P08:07
nickruddazzed, can't help otherwise, so be wise08:07
dazzedpm08:08
Levandergoldfish: it doesn't look like you have a separate boot partition goldfish, it'll probably be fine to install it08:08
dazzednickrud pm me08:08
goldfishLevander: Ah right, thanks.08:08
Levandergoldfish: if you had other partitions, besides just '/', there would be other lines of output from that command for the other partitions.08:08
fejaorhow can I know what's my actual kernel and how can I know if it is worth to upgrade it??08:08
RaskallLevander: mplayer can be the backend, yes. :) glirnath simply calls mplayer from the shell with the filename from the web-ui as an argument.08:09
goldfishwell there are a few more lines of output from that command Levander08:09
goldfishtmpfs                 253M     0  253M   0% /dev/shm08:09
goldfish/dev/hda1              37G   23G   14G  64% /media/windows08:09
goldfishnone                  5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  56% /dev08:09
Levanderfejaor: uname -a lists your kernel version, like goldfish showed us above08:09
goldfishthat's the remainder.08:09
Levandergoldfish: yeah, you don't have a separate boot partition08:09
goldfishrighteo08:09
fejaorsorry...i did't follow goldfish08:09
goldfishLevander: So I shud be fine to apt-get the i686 ?08:10
fejaorLinux fejaor 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux08:10
Levanderfejor, just type "uname -a" and look at the results08:10
bob2fejaor: don't bother changing it08:10
fejaorthat's my output....is it worth to upgrade the kernel??08:10
fejaorok08:10
fejaorthanks08:10
fejaorone other thing08:10
Levanderfejaor: I think bob2 is right08:10
fejaorhow do you do to refer to a person in here so the message changes to "person: ...." ??08:11
geneo93Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-686-smp #1 SMP Tue Apr 5 12:41:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux  hehe08:11
bob2fejaor: you type their nickname08:11
rymanare there any free linux guide on the web ?08:11
fejaorbob2 like that_08:11
fejaor?08:11
goldfishDoes xchat support tab completion?08:11
bob2jubei: yes08:12
bob2goldfish: yes08:12
elcugoldfish: for nicknames, yes.08:12
bob2fejaor: yes08:12
bob2fejaor: many irc clients do tab completion of nicks08:12
goldfishfejaor: type f, then press tab.08:12
goldfishsee what happens08:12
fejaorbob2 did that came up to you in red?08:12
fejaorbob2, ok08:12
goldfishlol08:12
fejaorthink I got it08:13
fejaorjejeje08:13
geneo93u can use smp kernel as well with single processor08:13
geneo93but i do have a dually08:14
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fejaordoes anybody know how to upgrade Gaim internet messenger to the newest version??08:15
elcuryman: http://www.linuxlinks.com/Beginners/ among others.  google.08:15
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fejaorhow can I change the permission in order to write to /usr/local ??08:15
pestilencefejaor: try using sudo08:15
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X`_hi there08:16
fejaoris not allowing me to write in the folder....08:16
geneo93where08:17
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X`_I would like to ask anyone if Ubuntu can run on Pentium 2 300 MHz 128 MB08:17
pestilencefejaor: using sudo?08:17
X`_please PM me if anyone here can help me08:17
fejaornoup08:17
Kamping_KaiserX_ yes it can run08:17
geneo93X yes08:17
holycowyes it can08:17
pestilenceX`_: that may be cutting it a little close, if you want gnome08:17
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elcufejaor: what are you trying to do?08:17
dr_willisX`_,  yes it can.. i have it running on a Pent 1 - 100.08:17
dr_willisSLOWLY. :P08:17
Kamping_Kaiserwe use it on P200MHz with 96MB of ram08:18
pestilenceX`_: but if you can use something like fluxbox, then certainly08:18
Kamping_Kaiserwith gnome08:18
X`_ok thanx form the info08:18
fejaortrying to install adobe in /usr/local08:18
X`_coz I want to try Ubuntu08:18
X`_;)08:18
pestilenceKamping_Kaiser: and it runs *well*?08:18
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elcuadobe reader?08:18
Kamping_Kaiserdefine well.08:18
fejaoryes08:18
pestilenceKamping_Kaiser: haha08:18
elcuhow are you installing it?08:18
Kamping_Kaiser:)08:18
elcui.e. did you download it?08:18
geneo93Kamping_Kaiser:  hole in ground08:18
aimazI used ubuntu on celeron 900 with 128mb of ram, it was quite slow, but usable, but then I am used to a machine with 1Gb of memory and faster processor08:18
fejaorI downloaded from a website and running it from a terminal08:18
elcufejaor: just use apt-get or synaptic08:19
elcuyou're doing it the hard way.08:19
holycowi've found that the the most important thing for gnome to feel responsive is #1 have a video card with accelerated drivers .. that more than anything can make a machine scream, even a p20008:19
fejaorI tried to use apt-get but didn't work08:19
elcufejaor: how so?08:19
holycowsecondly, gobs of ram helps, but gnome is very miserly with ram, it can stuff it self in 48 megs i've found but you won't be opening many apps without swapping in that08:19
fejaorsudo apt-get install adobe08:19
holycowthere is no adobe you twit08:20
holycow:)08:20
fejaorand synaptic doesn't have it08:20
holycowjesus :)08:20
holycowof course not, what kinda retard are  yoU?08:20
elcufejaor: acroread08:20
holycowseriously08:20
pestilencefejaor: just run the install program with sudo08:20
holycowlol08:20
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holycowfejaor, please learn a few apt commands first08:20
holycowthe most usefull one you will find is apt-cache search word08:21
holycowthat will give you a list of possibilities08:21
holycowthen you sudo apt-get install when you find what you are looking for08:21
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goldfishor maybe #ubuntu-es :)08:21
breezy-awayhiya, i'm looking for a java plugin for mozilla08:21
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breezy-awayanybody wanna point me to the rihgt direction please?08:21
pestilencebreezy-away: http://java.sun.com08:21
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breezy-awayargh08:21
goldfishbreezy-away: www.ubuntuguide.org will point you.08:21
breezy-awaygoldfish, it didn't08:22
goldfishhuh08:22
breezy-awaygoldfish, i can't get that package installed08:22
elcubreezy-away: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre08:22
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goldfishhmmm...08:22
goldfishhow come?08:22
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pestilenceyea, i don't think those instructions are valid anymore08:22
tritiumbreezy-away, Method 2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java08:22
goldfishah right08:22
elcupestilence: really?08:22
breezy-awaygoldfish, couldn't find it08:22
pestilenceelcu: i tried it yesterday, and it didn't work08:22
fejaorstill can't get it from synaptic or sudo08:22
breezy-awaygoldfish, checked me sources.list too08:22
infieblurgh. Ubuntu vomited on my matrox g45008:23
breezy-awaygoldfish, as long as its not in that backports feed, then its not in the others08:23
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infiewhats the program in ubuntu (from console) to configure X?08:23
Tuxicityis Gtk under GPL or LGPL?08:23
tritiumbreezy-away, then use the URL I gave you08:23
elcufejaor: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories08:23
pestilenceelcu: actually, i think the problem i had was the backports repositories no longer worked08:23
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fejaorelcu, i did that but had a lot of errors when I included the last 3 lines08:23
breezy-awaytritium, yes i am, its great08:23
breezy-awaythanks all08:23
pestilenceelcu: i assume that's where the java package is located, it didn't seem to be at marillat08:23
Tuxicityinfie, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:24
elcupestilence: i wouldn't know.08:24
fejaorelcu, and couldn't download acroread, flash application, w32codecs, etc08:24
Tuxicityfejaor, dont include the Backports lines08:24
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fejaorTuxicity, which ones are those_08:25
fejaor?08:25
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elcufejaor: the ones that have "backports" in the link.08:26
fejaorI mean, i copied and paste the sample file that is in there but have a lot of errors from the links08:26
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Tuxicityfejaor, maybe around lines 32 and 3308:27
Tuxicityfejaor, just put a # in front of each of these 2 lines08:27
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breezy-awayfunny08:28
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mihalyanyone here can help me get my USB mouse to work in ubuntu "live" - please?08:28
fejaorTuxicity, I'll let you know exactly what the errors are08:29
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Tuxicityfejaor, no!08:29
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Tuxicityfejaor, dont paste long lines in the channel please08:30
breezy-awayah08:30
breezy-awayanybody know where to get amd64 java packages?08:30
mihalyoops sorry,08:30
mihalyhit the ping buttn...sorry08:30
geneo93nickrud:  ok it compiled finally08:30
elcumihaly: how have you plugged it in?08:31
nickrudgeneo93, does it work? that is the question :)08:31
mihalyI'm trying to get USB mouse support with Ubuntu. Can I do it after boot up?08:31
mihalyerr, hmmm. It was plugged in. checking ...08:31
geneo93nickrud:  didn'y install it yet looking at other options now08:31
nickrudtease08:31
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mihalyyeah it's plugged into the USB port08:31
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Wilf3ok big noob question now :D08:32
mihalyIm using the LIVE CD08:32
mihalysorry/08:32
mihalyshould have mentioned/.08:32
nickrudgeneo93, what parameters did you give to config08:32
Wilf3i just installed amsn, what do i do so that i can just type "amsn" into terminal to run it?08:32
geneo93nickrud:  none08:32
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elcumihaly: it should be detected automatically.08:33
nickrudthen ask here about checkinstall, it will make a deb that, if it doesn't work, you can remove safely :)\08:33
infiehmm, anyone had any success with matrox cards on ubuntu08:33
mihalysuppose - for the sake of argument - that I have booted the LIVE CD right now, but it has no mouse support (USB) because I hadnt chosen it at startup - could I configure it without rebooting?08:33
dr_willisWilf3,  try typeing that and see if it works? :P would of been faster. Lol.08:33
mihalyIm using the older 4.10 version.08:33
geneo93nickrud:  alien will also with -d08:33
Wilf3dr_willis, ?08:34
mihalyit said something about detecting it and running hotplug, but the mouse' red light is OFF!08:34
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infieubuntu wants a module mga_hal08:34
dr_willisWilf3,  the shell./terminal is an intergeral part of Linux. you can easially run stuff from the shell.. in some cases its better to run things from the shell. (for trouble shooting/debuging)08:34
mihalyits a logtech wheelmouse if thats of any relevance08:34
Wilf3yuh i can do that08:35
nickrudah, well, you're more up on this than I am these days :)08:35
Wilf3but i am making a menu item08:35
Wilf3and in the "command" bit08:35
Wilf3i dunno what to put :P08:35
Sphearionmihaly, make sure its plugged in, I have a much newer logitech (mx1000) and it works just fine :)08:35
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mihalyyes, I already checked. Its plugged in.08:35
mihalywhen it boots, the light flashes at startup, but then stays off.08:36
elcuWilf3: typoe "which asmn"08:36
dr_willisWilf3,  same command as you typed in the shell that ran the program. it may want/need the 'full path' to the command.08:36
mihalyperhaps a BIOS setting is wrong?08:36
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elcuWilf3: or rather, type "which amsn"08:36
dr_willisWilf3,  which you can get with the commane elcu  mentioned.08:36
elcumihaly: do you have any other OSes installed?08:37
Wilf3but08:37
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Wilf3i have to go to the directory08:37
Wilf3then type ./amsn08:37
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elcuWilf3: yes, if you want to run it from terminal.08:37
Wilf3how do i put that in "command" ? :\08:37
SphearionI HIGHLY recommend this mouse to everyone :) http://reviews.designtechnica.com/review1820.html08:37
infiehrm, still a bit of cruft08:37
Wilf3i don't want to run it rom terminal :(08:37
Wilf3i want to have a button for it :(08:37
mihalyyes, it has windows98. I was going to install the ubuntu CD, but I have partitioning issues. Suffice to say I want to try running the ubuntu 4.10 LIVE CD. OK?08:38
capiquestion: with vsftpd is there a way to create virtual ftp-only users?08:38
infiedpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg talks about /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 still08:38
elcuWilf3: type in the command i told you, that will give you the full path which you then enter into the command box08:38
Wilf3ah ok08:38
mihalyI think you might want "whereis" not which?08:39
Wilf3that cdommand did nothing :\08:39
mihalyto save confusion between a script and a command (executable)08:39
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MaxeyPadi'm trying to install the w32codecs08:39
MaxeyPadbut the w32codec package is unavailable through apt08:39
elcumihaly: i'm not sure, sorry.08:39
capianyone know how?08:40
breezy-awayis there some sort of printer manager package?08:40
breezy-awayso i can add printers and shit?08:40
Wilf3foomatics08:40
Wilf3?08:40
Myrttibreezy-away: cups08:40
elcuWilf3: then it's not installed08:40
mihalyWilf3 do you mean "whereis"? try "locate" perhaps. but pipe it through "more" incase you get tonnes of output.08:40
breezy-awayMyrtti, rihgt thanks08:40
Wilf3/usr/share/sgml/entities/sgml-iso-entities-9573-13.1991/ISOamsn.ent08:40
Wilf3/usr/share/sgml/entities/sgml-iso-entities-8879.1986/ISOamsn.ent08:40
Wilf3/usr/share/xml/entities/xml-iso-entities-8879.1986/ISOamsn.ent08:40
Myrttibreezy-away: you prolly have it installed already08:41
mihalyright Im going to reboot from the live CD. someone want to go through this with me?08:41
Myrttibreezy-away: System - Preferences - Printing08:41
breezy-awayMyrtti, hat's a good gui then?08:41
breezy-awayoh!08:41
breezy-awaydoh08:41
breezy-awaymissed that menu08:41
Sphearionsystem - administration - printing.. ohh golly. my printer is already there :)08:41
breezy-awaythanks08:41
Myrttibreezy-away: prolly the most important menu, that is :->08:41
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infiebleh.08:42
mihalyright - do I use "expert" menu?08:42
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sgoodwinhow can I set esd to unbind the sound device after a certain amount of time?08:42
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mihalyanyone?08:42
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geneo93ok anyone want to help build package with checkinstall08:43
Myrttimihaly: what?08:43
MaxeyPadis the w32codecs package broken08:43
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MyrttiMaxeyPad: prolly not, why are you asking08:43
mihalyIm booting from the LIVE CD to get my USB logitech wheel mouse to work. But am having "difficulties" - so which mode do I select at startup: expert? or submenu -more boot options?08:44
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Myrttioh08:44
elcumihaly: try flashing your bios: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26374&highlight=usb+mouse08:44
Myrttioh08:45
Myrttibut be careful08:45
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dr_willisHmm a Logitech use mouse should work fine.08:45
mihalywhy flash the BIOS?08:45
mihalyit's just not being initialised on startup. So I get a useless GUI.08:46
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YoBoYhi08:47
YoBoYi'm discovering linux and ubuntu, and i'm trying to install a release with a software RAID0 (no multi-boot) but after my first install the system boot and reboot and reboot ... someone can help me?08:47
mihalyhmmm - elcu - it looks like it's not a simple problem?08:47
Tuxicitymihaly, make sure your BIOS is set to "Enable USB Keyboard Support"08:47
mihalybut I don't have a USB keyboard?! Only a USB mouse!!08:48
MaxeyPadthey are no longer available in apt08:48
elcumihaly: i'm just googling for you, really.  another option: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22068&highlight=usb+mouse08:48
mihalyoh - well, I could have done that. I'm here because it seems to be a UBUNTU problem. am I mistaken?08:49
mihalyalso note Im using a desktop machine, NOT a laptop.08:50
infievery odd. g400 not being autodetected08:50
infierather, is being detected as a Savage08:50
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Tuxicitymihaly, oops sory, my bad08:51
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infie:(08:52
Wilf3i know there's a file08:52
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mihalyrighto, I have started the expert mode,08:52
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Wilf3that i put in the route to the amsn file and the command, so that in terminal i only have to type "amsn" to run it08:52
infie"MGA: Failed to load module "vga_hal" (module does not exist, 0)08:52
infieer, mga_hal08:52
infienot vga_hal08:52
mihalyand it reports to have detected the mouse at /dev/input/mice/08:52
lmap31416hi there.  I am a newbie to ubuntu so please forgive me if the questions are too stupid ;-)  I am trying to install it on a notebook running on a Pentium M.  (1) Is this processor supported by the kernel 686 packages?  If it is not, after building the kernel with all I need, (2) how can I apply the linux-restricted-modules-686 to it (I need the madwifi driver)?08:53
Tuxicitymihaly, FYI my USB mouse (logitech mx500) works fine in Ubuntu 5.4 (HD install, didnt test liveCD)08:53
mihalydo I want to reconfigure my keyboard?08:53
mihaly(if I say n to these questions - I have tried once) I get NO MOUSE!08:53
mihalyalso note that although it claims to have found the mouse, and hotplug apparantly is working, there are no flashing blinking lights on the mouse!08:54
mihalywait a sec. there are ?!!08:54
mihalyyes it's lit up.08:54
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dr_willis:)08:55
dr_willisIts alive!08:55
Tuxicitymihaly, magic :)08:55
IIIEarshow would i open a windows share if the group is "Workgroup"   And the machine is called "BckUp" With a "Shared Docs" folder  with "All Users" permission?08:55
de_DustyCitiHi there. Could someone tell me where I can get mplayer's source pkgs? And, what's the mplayer-custome package for?08:55
mihalythis is always the way. Something doesnt work a hundred times, then when you want to show someone else that it doesnt work, it bloddy well does. Argggh!08:55
dr_willisIIIEars,  i just use the samba share browser tools of gnome or kde. :P and go there.08:55
IIIEarsit didn't show up. - doh!08:56
mihalyI don't like magic, unless I can see the trick. Whats happened here?08:56
elcuYou're not alone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10504&highlight=african+magic08:56
mihalyok, let me get to the gui....08:56
elcuSeems like logitech mice need to be exorcised.08:56
mihalysay "n" to "reconfigure keyboard (y/n)" . ok.08:57
dr_willisIIIEars,  useing kde right now. so i cant tell ya how/wht ya do in gnome.. but i thnk it was in the top menus. there was some network share/entry.08:57
IIIEarslol - logi - Texorcism"? - lol08:57
mihalyhow do you backspace at these questions? Im getting y^H^H08:57
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dr_willistry the delete key08:57
mihalyworse -> [[3~^[[3~^08:58
Kamping_Kaiser:) im back08:58
dr_willislol - dont make mistakes then.08:58
mihalywill it freak out if I just continue anyway?08:58
dr_willisone way to find out.08:59
mihalyvery funny - but Im honestly not in a humorous mood right now. troubleshooting tends tomake me rather irritable.08:59
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infieme too mihaly...08:59
dr_willissounds like for some reason your usb controller chipset isent getting set up. or somthing is confiuseing it.09:00
elcumihaly: is this your first distro?09:00
mihalyso I hope you'll understand if I start shouting obscenities.. :)09:00
mihalyno. Ive been using linux since 199909:00
elcuyou'd be used to frustration then ;)09:00
mihalyred hat, Turbolinux, debian knoppix, and now morphix. Oh yeah and Suse for a little while.09:01
IIIEarshm - speeding up Firefox by using the toggle  "about:config" in url window then search  "network.http.pipelining =false" to true - works nicely.09:01
nickrudI still party like it's 199909:01
infieI've never had trouble with ubuntu on nvidia or ati, but Matrox simply refuses to work09:01
mihalyyes, but it doesnt mean I deal with it any better now than back then. Im just more aware of it. :)09:01
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Kamping_Kaiserwhere do you set your NTP servers? i have forgotten09:02
elcuIIIEars: does that work for mozilla as well?09:02
mihalyapparantly it wants me to select a keyboard ... OK.09:02
IIIEarsi haven't tried it with mozilla09:02
herrie-aabelcu, i'm sorry but i can't install .. please can you help me:(?09:02
mihalynow it says that my mouse was autodetected, do I want to re-configure? Im saying no.09:03
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mihalyreconfigure X11 (No)...09:03
elcuherrie-aab: what is the error?09:03
geneo91ok gnomeradio is built as deb09:03
herrie-aabelcu, in synaptic you meen?09:04
mihalyright and now it goes on to start the desktop. it takes about three minutes before I even get a desktop.... so hang on.09:04
elcuherrie-aab: yes, you were installing acroread right?09:04
mihalyBRB09:04
capivsftpd FTP-only users installing, anyone?09:04
herrie-aabelcu,acroread???09:04
elcuherrie-aab: whoops, someone else, sorry.  what were you trying to install again?09:05
geneo91gee it needs sox09:05
herrie-aabelcu, amsn do you know? i wanna install that.09:05
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elcuherrie-aab: so what went wrong?09:06
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herrie-aabelcu, i can't see that file in synaptic. can i load that file?09:06
elcugeneo91: any particular reason why we need updates? :)09:06
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geneo91for09:07
elcuherrie-aab: if you've followed the steps to update your repository list:09:07
elcu(1) click search09:07
mihalyawwww - no mouse action. it's light is out.09:07
elcu(2) type in amsn09:07
elcu(3) right click on it when found09:07
elcu(4) mark for installation09:07
elcu(5) apply09:07
infiehrm.09:08
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herrie-aabelcu, but where i can update the list?09:08
elcugeneo91: your install process.09:08
infieApparently the version of x.org in Hoary doesn't like Matrox cards...09:08
infieor I should say, matrox cards don't like it09:08
wjesusaxlmount: RPC: Program not registered09:08
elcuherrie-aab: using that link i gave you: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories (assuming you're using hoary)09:08
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wjesusaxlhas anybody seen this problem before?09:09
wjesusaxlmount: RPC: Program not registered09:09
elcuwjesusaxl: http://www.google.com/search?q=mount%3A+RPC%3A+Program+not+registered&sourceid=mozilla&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-809:09
geneo91ok need hardware man now09:10
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Raskallis there a way to sync contents from a nfs-mount to a local directory? I would like to keep all my data on my server, but also have it available on my laptop when offline.09:10
wjesusaxlelcu: Het I did it before...09:10
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KarlosIIis there a problem with backports?09:10
wjesusaxlany of those solutions helped me09:10
KarlosIIdeb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted09:10
KarlosIIdeb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted09:10
elcuKarlosII: apparently.09:11
wjesusaxlelcu: any of those solutions helped me09:11
KarlosIIk just checking, thought it might be something on my end for a sec09:11
elcuwjesusaxl: all 54,000 of them?09:11
mihalywhat do I need to doin the terminal to check the mouse09:11
delroneanyone have experience stripping ubuntu of gnome and running only xfce?09:11
wjesusaxlelcu: the first three pages..09:11
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mihalywhat is the module called? hotplug?09:12
dazzedanyone know the package to get the dependancies for building fluxbox09:12
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wjesusaxlelcu: if you don't know what the problem could be at... 'd be ok09:12
elcuwjesusaxl: no, i have no idea.09:12
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delroneKarlosII: hehe09:13
wjesusaxlelcu: thanks anyway09:13
elcusorry09:13
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elcudelrone: do you have limited HDD space?09:13
KarlosIIah then I'm sympathetic09:13
elcuah09:13
delroneelcu: yup. would love to start at a base, base level and just grab the minimum packages to run xfce, firefox, tbird, etc09:14
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elcudelrone: that makes sense then.  i would've told you to just set the default session to xfce09:14
mihalywhat do I type to "modinfo" to get my USB mouse to wake up?!!!09:14
elcuand leave gnome09:14
delronei pondered if doing the server install out of the gate would give me a smaller install size, and let me add things on from there out09:15
mihalyi have a root shell ATM09:15
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g14elcu: I customized a fedora install using xfce for my family09:15
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mihalyit cant find modules usb or hotplug?09:15
g14elcu: using nautilus to manage the desktop and gnome-volume-manager to manage hotplug events09:15
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delronewould it be possible to do a server install, and add things on from there?09:16
elcug14: i noticed when i started nautilus in xfce, strange things would happen09:16
geneo91delrone:  what is your goal09:17
mihalyok, never mind. I'll work it out.09:17
mihalybye09:17
g14elcu: make a folder named ~/Desktop/Autostart09:17
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elcubye good luck09:17
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delronegeneo91: a web'ish box with xfce, firefox, tbird, rox maybe for file management... machine has limited resources09:17
delronegeneo91: the baseline ubuntu install is a bit heavy09:17
g14elcu: in that folder make a script that starts nautilus --n09:17
geneo91delrone:  sure that would work09:18
g14elcu: nautilus -n starts nautilus to just manage the desktop without starting a filebrowser window09:18
g14elcu: then the script calls magicdev which starts gnome-volume-manager09:18
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elcug14: man page says --n sets nautilus to not manage the desktop09:19
geneo91if you install fluxbox make sure you get fluxcinf09:19
delronegeneo91: i'm guessing it's straight apt-get after a server install, no synaptic interface, right?09:19
geneo91yes09:19
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delronedoes the server install give you control over what packages get installed outside of base?09:19
geneo91but you would have to add universe repository09:19
delroneeasy enough09:20
spiderwormhey all how do i watch a DVD in Ubuntu?09:20
elcug14: i'd like to use nautilus as my file manager in xfce, but the desktop seems to "switch" a xfce/gnome hybrid.09:20
g14elcu: You are incorrect, the man page says -n is the same as --no-default-window which means it ONLY manages the desktop09:20
geneo91just use apt-get09:20
elcug14: you're right.09:20
g14elcu: Nautilus is a much better desktop manager than xfce09:20
delronegeneo91: alright. my only worry about controlling the extra packages (if they _do_ get installed) is that the machine has limited HD space. don't need apache and sendmail for a web box :)09:21
g14elcu: I am using this as we speak :) hopefully I am right09:21
elcug14: think i'll stick to gnome. :)09:21
geneo91crimsun:  you still about09:21
geneo91delrone:  i dont think it will install it09:22
elcuspiderworm: http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback09:22
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g14elcu: it's really not that hard to do09:22
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delronespiderworm: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#dvdplayback09:22
elcug14: why isn't that process in the documentation?09:22
g14elcu: and it's basicly gnome without gnome-panel09:22
delronegeneo91: gotcha. guess i'll find out :)09:22
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capianyone know what a PAM db is?09:23
geneo91delrone:  what kinda box you talking about09:23
g14elcu: because it's a hack. Create a script in ~/Desktop/Autostart that starts nautilus -n and magicdev to manage the desktop. Then create a ~/Desktop/.hidden file to keep the Autostart folder off of the desktop09:23
elcug14: and that will fix the problem i described (i assume you know what i meant)09:24
dazzedg14: what are u talking about?09:24
elcudazzed: scroll up09:25
g14elcu: I didn't read your problem09:25
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spiderwormthank you, but libdvdcss2 doesnt seem to be found in the official or the universe repositories09:25
elcu<elcu> g14: i'd like to use nautilus as my file manager in xfce, but the desktop seems to "switch" a xfce/gnome hybrid.09:25
g14elcu: ok describe hybrid09:25
dazzedelcu:  theres an easy way09:25
qkslvrwolfyeah, spider, I've noticed that09:26
qkslvrwolfI had to search the internet to get it09:26
dazzedi use fluxbox and it happens all the time09:26
g14You should be able to disable xfce from managing the desktop through xfce-settings-show09:26
g14I think thats the right command09:26
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dazzedwhen u launch nautilus (whatever u use to launch it) use this command nautilus --no-desktop09:26
elcug14: the desktop background would switch to the one i had in gnome and the window switcher changed to gnome's one.09:26
dazzedg1409:26
dazzedno09:26
elcudazzed: thanks.  i'll look into that.09:27
dazzedelcu: just run nautilus with 'nautilus --no-desktop' and itll be fine i run fluxbox and that happens to me too09:27
capianyone know what PAM is?09:27
qkslvrwolfsome kind of security thing isn' tit?09:27
qkslvrwolfPAM, I mean?09:27
elcudazzed: cool, someone who knows what i was talking about. :)09:28
elcuta09:28
capidon't know. I'm asumming some sort of db... not usre though, can't find it in apt anywhere09:28
elcuspiderworm: have you updated your repository list?09:28
dazzedlol no prob...just wasnt paying attention lol09:28
g14elcu: window swither?09:28
GeneralCodyqkslvrwolf, it is an authentication framework09:28
g14elcu: the panel? with the menus and everything09:28
elcug14: when you have multiple applications, instead of doing an alt-tab, you can click on the windows09:29
elcuin the panel09:29
nickrudcapi, look at /etc/pam.conf and /etc/pam.d09:29
GeneralCodyqkslvrwolf, PluggableAuthenticationFramework. If u come from slackware, that is not included.09:29
g14elcu: You didn't start it right09:29
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nickrudbeyond that, I have no answers :)09:29
g14Make a ~/Desktop/Autostart folder09:29
GeneralCodyqkslvrwolf, PluggableAuthenticationModules. If u come from slackware, that is not included.09:29
elcug14: yes, you've described the process.09:29
elcu:)09:29
qkslvrwolffair enough09:29
g14elcu: ok good, it should work09:30
herrie-aabwhat is the command to install when the file is AMSN ??????:S09:30
dazzedg14: u 2 are talking about 2 complete different things09:30
geneo91nickrud:  i have the latest version of gnomeradio installed now it cant find the hardware09:30
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aleksihey i just installed linux and i dunt know how to install firefox from archive09:30
g14elcu: there is a way to keep xfce from managing the desktop09:30
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nickrudgeneo91, ok, I'll bite :)09:30
aleksii never used linux before09:30
nickrudagain :)09:30
g14dazzed: no I dont think so09:30
GeneralCodyaleksi, are we talking ubuntu here?09:30
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aleksiyes09:31
Tuxicityaleksi, isnt Firefox already installed by default?09:31
nickrudwhat kind of radio card do you have?09:31
elcug14: why wouldn't you want it to?  IMO, the nautilus thing was the only problem i had with xfce.09:31
geneo91doesn't even give any errors09:31
aleksiyes but i need to uprade09:31
GeneralCodyaldug, it is there, if not, apt-get install mozilla-firefox09:31
Myrttito 1.0.3?09:31
aleksiyes09:31
dazzedg14: i solved his problem by launching 'nautilus --no-desktop' your tlaking about turning off things that are loaded onto the nautilus desktop09:31
GeneralCodyaleksi,09:31
Myrttino need09:31
aleksiwhy dont need?09:31
Myrttithe version you're having has the .3 fixes in it already09:31
g14dazzed: He said he wants to have nautilus manage the desktop09:31
Myrttiif you have .209:32
geneo91nickrud:  its an old wintv card hauppauge with fm09:32
elcug14: no i didn't. :)09:32
dazzedg14: see thats where u were misunderstood...he doesnt wnat it to09:32
g14elcu: ok well then I apologize09:32
elcuwhat's the difference anyway?09:32
elcub/n xfce and nautilus managing it?09:32
aleksihave i install some virus protection i traded windows to linux09:32
nickrudgeneo91, what does sudo lspic tell you about the card09:32
dazzedg14: i was reading what u guys were both talking about and i was like how are these 2 connected heheh09:32
g14elcu: but xfce doesn't have anything like gnome-volume-manager. So when you plug in a removable device, there will be an icon on the desktop09:33
nickrudgeneo91, lspci :)09:33
g14dazzed: I am very inebriated and tired. I misunderstood the situation09:33
elcuso basically nautilus has better features.09:33
g14elcu: yes09:33
elcuok.09:33
dazzedg14: i figured as much :) just trying to get things straight09:33
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g14elcu: nautilus for the desktop and gnome-volume-manager for hotplug is a winning combination09:34
g14elcu: gnome is slow and very kludgy someitmes so xfce is better for speed09:34
elcugoodo09:34
infieIs there a way to search for which package I might install to get the mga_hal module?09:34
Tuxicityaleksi, not really, but it depends on your level of paranoia09:34
nickrudgnome, the desktop for the rest of us09:34
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geneo910000:00:0e.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02)09:34
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elcug14: what are your system specs?09:35
nickrudgeneo91, ok, wait one, while i google, you should do the same09:35
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g14Althon 2400 1 gb of ram 120gb 7200RPM hd09:35
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elcug14: how would gnome be slow on that beast? :)09:36
g14elcu: I use this system to test what I am going to do for my parnets computer09:36
elcubesides starup09:36
elcu*startup09:36
g14elcu: gnome is fast on this computer09:36
GeneralCodyaleksi, did u mean install from a downloaded .deb package?09:36
dazzedgnome is fast on plenty of computers09:36
g14elcu: my parents have a very slow computer and I use this to test my setup that I have working for them09:36
elcug14: ah, googo09:36
elcu*goodo09:36
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elcu:)09:36
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geneo91g14:  btw kde is somewhat faster09:37
elcugeneo91: really?  i've found kde apps run crap09:37
dazzedpoo on kde!!09:37
GNAMi'm mad or ubuntu is a little slow about security updates?09:37
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GeneralCodyaleksi, if so dpkg -i <packagename>09:37
geneo91elcu:  its very fast on my p3 800's09:38
MyrttiGeneralCody: enemy territory from tar.gz09:38
elcualeksi: you should always try to use apt-get or synaptic.  dpkg won't take care of dependencies.09:38
GeneralCodyMyrtti, come again?09:38
dazzedgeneo91: im not doubting its fast but do u really like it?09:38
Myrttihe want's to install enemy territory from tar.gz09:38
geneo91yes i've used nothing but kde for 6 years09:39
Myrttiwanted09:39
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MyrttiI HATE it when they do that09:39
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g14geneo91: your missing out, gnome is much better since they switched to metacity09:39
elcudo what?09:39
TuxicityMyrtti, when they... quit Lol09:39
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MyrttiTuxicity: when the quit before getting help09:39
GeneralCodyMyrtti, well, that is a .run shell script, so untar it: tar zxvf et-...tgz and sh et-....run09:39
ivoksg14 that happend years ago...09:40
geneo91g14 no i'm not i have gnome on all my linux installations09:40
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Myrttipatience is a nonexistant virtue in modern youth09:40
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MyrttiGeneralCody: nevermind, he left already09:40
elcuMyrtti: heh.  i also hate when they ask how to do something and you've already told them twice.09:40
geneo91gnome just dont meet my needs as well as kde09:40
Myrttielcu: true09:41
dazzedlol09:41
dazzedhow true how true09:41
TuxicityIf you install an app you compiled, does it mess up APT? especially if an older version of same package is installed through APT?09:41
nickrudgeneo91, this is the best link I've found http://www.wh-hms.uni-ulm.de/~mfcn/gnomeradio/09:41
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dazzedi should probably goto sleep sometime soon09:42
elcuTuxicity: apparently, it appends it.09:42
aleksiI am idiot lol09:42
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nickruddazzed, depends on your timezone :)09:42
g14ivoks: yes I realize this, I've used gnome since redhat 509:42
geneo91damn theres a deb already made09:43
Myrttialeksi: [10:39]  < GeneralCody> Myrtti, well, that is a .run shell script, so untar it:09:43
Myrtti                       tar zxvf et-...tgz and sh et-....run09:43
dazzed245am ...its a 1970's re run of snl on tv...nothing else on...wish adultswim wasnt playing anime tonight09:43
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Tuxicityelcu, appends it??? how?09:44
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ivoksg14 with enlightenment? :)09:44
geneo91nickrud:  my deb is a lot bigger than theres like 100kb bigger09:44
MyrttiI wish they'd make linux ports to Sims or Civilization 309:44
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dazzedlol Myrtti09:44
nickrudthe deb you made?09:45
elcuTuxicity: no idea, i didn't ask further. :)09:45
Myrttithough I'm not complaining09:45
geneo91yup09:45
aleksii think that linux is too complitated to me09:45
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Myrtticurrently I'm playing more that I ever did with windows09:45
Myrttisame gnome is addicting09:45
Myrttiand gweled09:45
ivoksaleksi wich distro? ubuntu?09:45
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elcuit's 2005!09:45
nickrudthat's not necessarily a problem compiing here and there is always different :)09:45
ivoksaleksi if ubuntu is to complicated, then... I don't know, how about buying typewriter? :)09:46
Myrttioh, and frozen bubble <309:46
Tuxicityaleksi, just because you took the hard way09:46
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nickrudas I've always said, compiling is voodoo, always consult a guru09:46
elcu:)09:46
ivoksaleksi if ubuntu is to complicated, then... I don't know, how about buying typewriter? :)09:46
aleksi_what happen all programs shutdown09:46
elcuivoks: lol09:46
Myrttielcu: what can I say, I'm an oldfashioned girl09:46
geneo91nickrud:  mine has support for 10 langauges09:46
ivokscouse i find ubuntu much easier to use than windows09:47
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nickrudgeneo91, that will add a lot :)09:47
ivokson ubuntu everything worked after install, which is almost non-interactive09:47
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ivokson windows, nothing worked after install09:47
elcuivoks: i can't agree with you there.09:47
smouchenot having a freaking registry simplifies things enormously, even for computer illiterates like me..09:47
aleksi_i have some computer expirent but linux is too complitated for me lol09:48
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Myrttiit's the windows way of thinking that makes it hard09:48
ivokselcu with what?09:48
smouche'course that gconfig thing was annoying enough, so I'm happier with kde than gnome.09:48
elcuMyrtti: you don't need to think with windows09:48
elcuwizards galore09:48
Myrttielcu: my point exactly09:48
ivoksah... windows generations09:48
elcuivoks: linux being easier09:48
ivokselcu ubuntu as a distro is much easier than windows09:49
ivokselcu come on... let's go through couple examples09:49
aleksi_windows is lot easier than linux09:49
whiteknightits getting to the point where you don't need to think with ubuntu09:49
whiteknight:)09:49
ivokselcu how do u install apps on windows? download, run install, choose dir, click next, i agree etc..09:49
ivokselcu how do u install it on ubuntu? synaptic, choose app, apply09:49
Myrttiivoks: one word: synaptic09:49
ivokscan it be easier?09:50
elcuivoks: i'll stop you there09:50
elcuivoks: what happens if there's no deb package?09:50
elcuelcu: install from source09:50
elcuright?09:50
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ivoksah...09:50
Myrttielcu: download a .rpm and alien -i package.rpm09:50
Kamping_Kaiserelcu. if theres no EXE file?09:50
geneo91ok nickrud it says could not open device /dev/radio when i open it as root09:51
ivoksu don't understand desktop user thinkging09:51
elcuMyrtti: what if they don't supply an rpm09:51
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elcui've found this case many times09:51
ivoksif something isn't listed, it doesn't egzist09:51
Kamping_Kaiserelcu make install09:51
Kamping_Kaiserif you dont want to learn, get off linux09:51
ivokseven compile is easier than install09:51
elcuMyrtti: you have to use dpkg to install it.  which doesn't count for dependencies09:51
elcusee what i'm saying?09:51
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elcuivoks: until you get errors09:52
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ivokselcu apt-file?09:52
gerbhallo09:52
gerbik ben hier ook09:52
Myrttielcu: in most cases I've found what I was searching for in either ubuntu repos or in debian repos09:52
elcuKamping_Kaiser: i agree09:52
MyrttiI've had to only once use the alien -i thing with .rpms09:52
cyphaseWe all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds.09:52
elcuMyrtti: but that is not always the case.09:52
ivokselcu and what if u can't find app for windows?09:53
elcuwith windows, there's only one way to install stuff09:53
ivokselcu what if some app costs xxxxxx$?09:53
aleksi_i hate windows because it unstable09:53
elcuivoks: then it truly doesn't exist09:53
ivokselcu not true09:53
elcuivoks: we're talking about eas of use, not cost09:53
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drcodedeHi all09:54
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cyphasehey09:54
Gooniecan anyone help me with a problem I'm having?09:54
ivokselcu well... "desktop use" doesn't know what compile is09:54
smoucheelcu, "only one way to install stuff" ?  what kind of windows are you using?09:54
ivokselcu tell me, what desktop app did u compile?09:54
wartyhelp09:54
elcusmouche: heh, xp09:54
beowu1fany south africans lurkin in this channel?09:54
elcuivoks: applications for school.09:54
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ivokselcu what apps?09:55
wartycan not mount devices!!!!!!!!09:55
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smoucheyou can install many many open source apps in winxp , without changing the registry, or build from source, all that09:55
Kamping_Kaiserrealy?09:55
smoucheif you want09:55
dailehey warty, what's up?09:55
Kamping_Kaiserwarty wats up?09:55
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elcu:)09:55
geneo91nickrud:  it works09:55
Kamping_Kaiser:)_09:55
ivoks:)09:55
wartyi am talking now from live cd09:55
ivokselcu we don't question that09:55
ivoks:)09:55
Kamping_Kaiserlol09:55
geneo91cool09:55
Goonieafter I upgraded from warty to hoary the system seems to be using ipw2200 instead of ndiswrapper and it's not working well... How do I completely uninstall ipw2200 ?09:55
MrMiaowanyone within throwing distance of ajmitch?09:55
elcuivoks: another thing:  linux assumes you have an internet connection09:55
ivoksGoonie ipw2200 is great!09:56
elcuto install stuff09:56
ivokselcu that's right09:56
ivoksand windows don't?09:56
wartywhen i am starting it said trhat can not mount devices09:56
Kamping_Kaiseror lots of cds09:56
elcuwindows doesn't09:56
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ivokslol09:56
ivoksthen, how would u download apps?09:56
IIIEarsaleksi - Welcome!09:56
Agrajagelcu: "linux" assumes no such thing09:56
elcuAgrajag: yes it does.09:56
IIIEarslol - oops09:56
dailewarty, frankly I don't live Ubuntu LiveCD that much09:56
Kamping_Kaiserno it doesnt09:56
ivokselcu linux, it self, doesn't09:56
daile:)09:56
aleksi_ty09:56
Goonieivoks~ well I get errors on boot and the connection dies after a while... and I can't get it up again without rebooting09:56
Agrajagelcu: I believe you mean "ubuntu"09:56
wartywhy?09:56
Agrajaglinux is just a kernel, it doesn't assume a thing09:57
daileit's not as good as some other LiveCD09:57
nickrudgeneo91, I take alllllll the credit :)09:57
elcuAgrajag: OK then.  forgive me09:57
ivoksAgrajag it does09:57
Kamping_Kaiserwarty. are you having problems mounting from an installed system, or onto the live cd?09:57
wartyso what can i do09:57
warty?09:57
dailebut once installed, Ubuntu works like a charm09:57
ivoksAgrajag it assums that /etc/inittab will be there :)09:57
geneo91sure nickrud thats fine09:57
Agrajagall of these distros can be considered to be completely different OSes that happen to share a kernel09:57
wartyan installed system:hoary09:57
dailetry other liveCD more mature like Knoppix09:57
smouchecomparing linux to windows, head to head, like this is pointless, imho.  Windows is just windows09:57
Agrajagand some bits of userland09:57
smouchebut with linux09:57
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ivoksGoonie well... what errors?09:58
smoucheyour experience of it depends a lot on distro and flavor09:58
nickrudgeneo91, I'm too old to anything else but flippant09:58
bleezywwow that was werd09:58
daileI always use Knoppix for rescue purpose, because it has better hardware detection09:58
ivoksi know that every windows OS crashes when i try to work on it09:58
Goonieivoks~ I get these errors:09:58
Goonieipw2200: Fatal error09:58
Goonieipw2200: Start IPW Error Log Dump:09:58
Goonieipw2200: Status: 0x00000100, Config: 0000014209:58
Goonieipw2200: Start IPW Event Log Dump:09:58
ivoksi opet too many apps and everything becomes blue09:58
dailewarty, just install hoary09:58
daileit's perfectly good09:59
geneo91nickrud:  the secrete was changing permissions and and adding a 0 to /dev/radio = /dev/radio009:59
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dailewarty, but why do you want to use hoary LiveCD, do you want to test something ?09:59
smoucheWindowsXp boots faster -- of course it -- has -- to, since it needs so much rebooting!09:59
IIIEarsif you are new a nice first addition is "Firestarter" firewall - i believe it is in synaptic - (A blackhole for bad packets - evil grin)09:59
ivoksGoonie is ur wifi swith turned on?09:59
ivoksGoonie what lap is that?09:59
elcui didn't have a net connection a while ago.  i had to manually download deb files from my windows partition and install applications using dpkg.  dependency errors kept cropping up, so i had to download package after package. (on a dialup modem mind you, switching back and forth)09:59
nickrudok, no credit :)09:59
bleezyhello09:59
Kamping_Kaiserdaile warty is using live because he cant boot his install09:59
Kamping_Kaiserhis / her10:00
ivokselcu apt-get --print-uris?10:00
Goonieivoks~ yes the switch is on and its an Acer Travelmate 800210:00
bleezyhow do i configure my graphics ???10:00
bleezykeeps failing10:00
elcuivoks: E: Command line option --print-uri is not understood10:00
Kamping_Kaiserwhat fails bleezy10:00
bleezyand tells me that i cant su10:00
ivokselcu uris10:00
bleezygraphics10:00
bleezytrying to load gui10:00
Agrajagyou don't use su in ubuntu, you use sudo10:00
Kamping_Kaiserwhats teh error?10:01
ivoksGoonie this ipw2200 are from source or restricted modules?10:01
bleezyAHHHH10:01
geneo91bleezy:  do a sudo passwd root10:01
IIIEarssmouche - you might be right if you didn't need so many other monitoring apps spybot for the registry, stinger for the browser and an anti virus - this system idled at 7% - 15% cpu usage - lol10:01
ivokselcu apt-get --print-uris install kde10:01
bleezykoo10:01
bleezy1 down10:01
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elcuivoks: now you tell me!!!!!!!!!10:01
ivoks:)10:01
Kamping_Kaiserlol @ bleezy10:01
bleezynow do i run gdm >10:01
Kamping_Kaiseryes10:02
Kamping_Kaiserrestart10:02
Goonieivoks~ I don't know... I just upgraded from warty to hoary and there it was... I was using ndiswrapper in warty and the upgrade seems to have uninstalled ndiswrapper10:02
bleezylol peice of cake compared to gentoo10:02
ivoksGoonie what kernel?10:02
aleksi_arrg10:02
IIIEarshow does Ubuntu compare to Suse 9.2?10:02
Goonieivoks~ 2.6.10-5-38610:02
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bleezynow i cant sudo10:03
ivoksGoonie do u have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386?10:04
ivoksGoonie and why don't u install -686? i guess u aren't running on 386 or 586 proc? :)10:04
bleezysays i have to be root to run gdm10:04
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ivoksGoonie s/586/486/10:04
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bleezylol now says already runni10:05
bleezyn10:05
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bleezyno graphics = popoooo10:05
daile IIIEars, I don't have so good experience with Suse 9.2. Ubuntu always seems to be better10:05
smoucheIIIEars , you're right -- whenever I want to complain about the learning curve in linux, I think of all the time spent just keeping XP reasonably clean10:05
Kamping_Kaiseryou do have to be root to run  gdm bleezy10:05
ivoksIIIEars i hate suse10:05
bleezyok10:06
bleezywell says im runnin it already10:06
fjorkIt is not documented anywhere, but people trying to get Ubuntu going on Matrox Millenium cards need to download a driver from matrox10:06
bleezyhow i run xconfig10:06
Kamping_Kaisertype this bleezy10:06
ivoksbleezy ctrl alt f710:06
bleezyfor somehting10:06
fjorkFor x.org10:06
Kamping_Kaisersudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart10:06
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fjorkand the documentation seems to indicate that this driver is not required for non-Parhelia-based cards10:06
Tuxicityfjork, it is on the wiki, no?10:06
Goonieivoks~ I'm a newbie at this so I don't know if I'm running linux-restricted-modules and I didn't choose 386... I just installed warty from an install cd and upgraded to hoary... now this is the system I got10:07
fjorkno10:07
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ivoksGoonie do this in terminal:10:07
fjork"Install the Matrox driver if any of these are true:"10:07
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ivoksGoonie sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-686 linux-image-68610:07
bleezyKamping_Kaiser: no workie10:08
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ivoksGoonie this combination works great with my intel wirelesspro10:08
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Kamping_Kaiserbleezy. any error in particular? or just not working?10:08
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bleezycant see the error10:08
bleezybox is blank10:08
Kamping_Kaiserok10:08
bleezybut says config gdm and restart10:08
ivoksbleezy sudo vim /varlo/gXorg.0.log10:08
ivoksfuck...10:08
ivoksbleezy sudo vim /varlog/Xorg.0.log10:09
TuxicityIs irssi installed by default in Hoary?10:09
ivoksgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr10:09
ivoksbleezy sudo vim /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:09
Goonieivoks~ it's running... no let's hope the connection doesn't die before the dl finishes hehe10:09
Kamping_Kaiserhave you gone10:09
Kamping_Kaisersudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8610:09
bleezynow what 1  >>>10:09
ivoksGoonie what proc is in that lap?10:09
Tuxicitynvm10:09
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ivoksbleezy look for errors10:09
Kamping_Kaiserbleezy do10:09
Kamping_Kaisertail /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:09
bleezyk10:09
ivokslogs are wanderfull thing10:09
ivoksthey say everything10:10
Goonieivoks~ 1.5 Intel Pentium M (banias)10:10
ivoksbleezy go to the end of file (shift g)10:10
ivoksbleezy and take a look...10:10
ivoksGoonie nice... mine is 1.410:10
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bleezywell i cant find a xorg.log anywharee10:11
ivoksbleezy sure u can10:11
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ivoksbleezy cd /var/log/10:12
ivoksbleezy cat Xorg.0.log10:12
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Kamping_Kaiserneeds a capital X breezy10:12
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fejaordoes anybody know how to erase an icon from the Applications-->internet option??10:12
Goonieivoks~ yup I'm happy with my Acer laps... got a 64 bit AMD 3000XP one as well but I don't really like the noise it produces... but the power is immense for a laptop10:12
bleezy0files10:12
ivoksGoonie does the sleep mode works on ur lap?10:12
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bleezynegative :(10:13
ivoksbleezy ?10:13
ivoksbleezy there has to be10:13
ivoksbleezy sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg10:13
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fejaordoes anybody know how to erase an icon from the Applications-->internet option...I got a duplicated icon and want it to erase one of them...10:13
Kamping_Kaiserbleezy are you running hoary or warty?10:13
ivoksfejaor /usr/share/applications10:14
Goonieivoks~ haven't checked actually..10:14
ivoksfejaor all the programs in menu are in that dir10:14
bleezycant find package10:14
bleezyivoks:10:14
ivoksbleezy ?10:14
bleezyKamping_Kaiser:  i dunno10:14
fejaorthanks10:14
bleezyivoks: cant find packages10:15
Kamping_Kaiserbleezy type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:15
Kamping_Kaiserdoes it work or not?10:15
ivoksbleezy cat /etc/apt/sources.list10:15
bleezyk hold on10:15
ivoksKamping_Kaiser well, it won't couse he didn't install it10:15
IamJacksUsername5.04, Firefox 1.02: alert, connection has terminated unexpectedly dialog box won't close when clicking on OK, or on the close window "x", or on the left menu "Close", or Alt F4, or right clicking on the "minimized window" on the open applications panel then Close. Is there a way to force close apps? Also Xine doesn't want to close.10:15
ivoksIamJacksUsername sure there is; kill10:16
Kamping_Kaiseror ctrl+alt+esc10:16
smoucheIamJacksUsername, from a terminal, just type killall nameofapp10:16
bleezyKamping_Kaiser:10:16
xelpudxkill would work10:16
bleezydidnt find anything10:16
fejaorivoks, i can erase any cause it said i dont have permissions10:16
ivoksIamJacksUsername as u can see, there are many ways :)10:16
Kamping_Kaiserok. then looking for  xorg isnt going to help imho10:16
ivoksfejaor sudo rm10:16
bleezyyes agreed10:17
Goonieivoks~ should I reboot now to check if I get the errors on boot?10:17
ivoksbleezy and u don't know what distro u instalated?10:17
ivoks:) omg, how can we help u then?10:17
bleezycd did it all10:17
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bleezyguess it a live cd10:17
ivoksGoonie u should first run lilo10:17
bleezydunno10:17
ivoksGoonie and then reboot and start -686 kernel10:17
IamJacksUsernamectrl+al+escape doesn't seem to do anything. How do I find the name for the app to do a killall in the console?10:17
Q_Continuum_anyone here use cedega?10:18
ivoksIamJacksUsername ps ax10:18
Goonieivoks~ lilo?10:18
transgressanyone feel like suggesting a good cheap dvd burner to me?  i'm looking at a samsung on newegg10:18
ivoksGoonie or grub10:18
Goonieivoks~ ahh10:18
Q_Continuum_Cedega locked up on me, starting World of Warcraft (after patch) and I can't get out...mouse is locked.10:18
ivoksGoonie what u use? lilo or grub?10:18
bleezycan i d/l something to hep10:18
bleezythelp10:18
ivoksbleezy brain10:18
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Goonieivoks~ grub10:18
bleezyahhh10:18
ivoksbleezy what distro did u download?10:18
bleezydick10:18
bleezyubuntu10:18
ivoksGoonie then go to /boot/grub/menu.lst10:18
bleezyduh10:18
ivoksbleezy which version?10:19
bleezynewest10:19
ivoksthen it has to be xserver-orc10:19
ivoksthen it has to be xserver-org10:19
bleezyk10:19
ivoksGoonie and check out what is default?10:19
Goonieivoks~ default = 010:20
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ivoksGoonie ?10:20
ivoksGoonie ok, never mind..10:20
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ivoksGoonie restart and on the boot scree choose the kernel with 686 in it's name10:20
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fejaorivoks, I only see one on the terminal but when I open the location from computer, it appears 2 of them :S10:21
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IamJacksUsernamethanks for the "ps ax" ivoks. I killed the Firefox with kill <pid>, but xine doesn't want to die like that.10:22
ivoksfejaor which app is twice?10:22
Goonieivoks~ thx.. brb to let u know if this made a difference10:22
fejaorgaim10:22
ivoksIamJacksUsername from that term run xkill10:22
ivoksIamJacksUsername and click on xine10:22
IamJacksUsernameAh...10:22
ivoksfejaor run in /usr/share/applications this:10:22
ivoksfejaor  grep -sr Exec=gaim *10:23
Q_Continuum_Help! My box is locked into Cedega!  I can't kill it!  help me figure out how to kill the process (can't use the mouse)10:23
ivoksctrl+alt+backspace10:23
Kamping_Kaiserouch10:23
Q_Continuum_grrr.10:23
ivoks:)10:23
fejaorivoks, gaim.desktop:Exec=gaim10:23
Kamping_Kaiser:( bugger eh10:23
ivoksu see... it works10:23
devazion_Q_Continuum, ctrl + alt + f1 and login, then killall -9 whine10:23
Q_Continuum_there went everything. lol.10:23
ivokswell, it isn't locked anymore :)10:24
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ivoksfejaor only one?10:24
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ivoksfejaor hm... then go to /usr/share/applnk10:24
ivoksfejaor and grep -sr gaim *10:24
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fejaorivoks, nothing happened10:25
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fejaorivoks, Cannot move "/usr/share/app.../gaim.desktop"10:25
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ivoksfejaor ok... and?10:26
Q_Continuum*sigh*10:26
ivoksdon't move that10:26
ivoksthat's an OK file10:26
fejaorivoks, to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.10:26
Goonieivoks~ still get those errors on boot10:26
ivoksGoonie what uname -a says?10:26
ivokssorry10:27
ivoks-r10:27
ivoksuname -r10:27
freewoodyHi all10:27
Goonieivoks~ Linux goonielap 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:27:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux10:27
freewoodyHow do I set my gateway using ifconfig10:27
ivoksGoonie wohoh!! u have -686 now :) ok... lsmod? does it says ipw2200 enywhere?10:27
freewoodyHow do I define my IP, NetMask, gateway using ifconfig10:27
fejaorivoks, so what's next with my issue?10:28
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ivoksfejaor how that icon get there?10:28
fejaorivoks, I installed the most recent gaim version from the website10:28
geneo91freewoody:  ifconf -h10:28
Goonieivoks~ yes lsmod lists ipw2200 and says it's being used by 010:28
ivoksfejaor how?10:28
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ivoksGoonie sudo rmmode ipw220010:29
Tuxicityivoks, autopackage10:29
fejaorivoks, downloaded the file and run it in a terminal ./10:29
ivokswtf?10:29
freewoodyifconfig 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 should do it10:29
Tuxicityivoks, autopackage he used10:29
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ivoksok10:29
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ivoksso fejaor which gaim u would like to use now? that from the distro or that u downloaded?10:30
Bleezyivoks no bueno10:30
ivoks?10:30
Bleezydidnt work10:30
Goonieivoks~ did you mean rmmod ipw2200 ? rmmode is not a command10:30
fejaorthe one I downloaded10:30
ivokstoo much shouting ivoks on this channel :)10:30
freewoodyHelp somebody I need to bring up the interface for my NIC Cards10:30
Bleezylol pimp10:30
ivoksGoonie yeah, sorry, typo10:30
fejaorivoks, the one I downloaded10:31
ivoksfejaor then it's simple10:31
freewoodyHow do I assing IP 192.168.1.10 , Netmask 255.255.255.0, Gateway 192.168.1.110:31
geneo91freewoody:  network-admin10:31
ivoksfejaor sudo aptitude purge gaim10:31
ivoksfreewoody IP u can with ifconfig10:31
freewoodythere is no X for the server10:32
ivoksfreewoody for gw use route10:32
freewoodythanks10:32
freewoodyI have 4 NIC Cards10:32
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ivoksthen ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.10 up10:32
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fejaorivoks, it removed ubuntu-desktop and gaim ubuntu-desktop10:32
ivoksroute add 192.168.1.1 eth110:32
ivoksfejaor great10:32
ivoksfejaor do u have two icons now?10:33
fejaorivoks, yes10:33
freewoodyivoks, what about the Netmask ?10:33
Sphearion ok besides the ubuntu forums where else can I find good customization tips and tricks (i already did all the ones I liked on the forums)10:33
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fejaorivoks, but neither of them are working now10:33
ivoksfejaor log out and log in back10:33
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ivoksfreewoody nm is 255.255.255.0 by default10:33
ulissehi channel10:33
Kamping_Kaiserhi10:33
ivoksfreewoody sorry, typo10:34
ulisseI've been forced to change my mobo, with LAN on it, and now I'm unable to connect anymore10:34
freewoodyWhat if I want to put 255.255.255.248 in the Netmask10:34
ivoksfreewoody route add 192.168.1.1 eth010:34
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ulisseis it possible to reconfigure all network interfaces?10:34
freewoodyI don't understand typ010:34
ivoksfreewoody ifconfig --help10:34
fejaorivoks, still 2 icons no access10:35
fejaor:S10:35
ivokswell, sorry, u fucked up something10:35
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ivoksand i don't have time to investigate that10:35
ivoks+ u know shit about linux10:36
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ivoks:)10:36
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ulissefreewoody, netmask is a value similar to 1/0 where 255 is 1 and 0 is 0, so 255.255.255.248 makes no sense10:36
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Goonieivoks~ well... that of course ended my connection, what should I have done after rmmod ipw2200?10:37
ivoksGoonie then ur wireless works :)10:37
ulissefreewoody, the 0 represents the values in IP that can be changed on a network10:37
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FourFingeredFredhey10:38
ulissefreewoody, i.e. if you have less than 255 computers on a network, you can use the IP range from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.25510:38
tremor_ulisse: actually, 255.255.255.248 can be a netmask10:38
ulissetremor_, really?10:38
ivoksulisse yeah... that's an ok netmask10:38
Goonieivoks~ well you see the wireless works but not for long periods of time... It breaks the connection after a random amount of time.. that's why I was thinking about going back to ndiswrapper10:39
ivoksif u want to split one network10:39
ulisseand what does it means?10:39
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ivoksGoonie ? never happend to me...10:39
tremor_ulisse: it means you have 3 bits available for the host part, while all the others are network bits10:39
ivoksu can have two networks on one switch but one not aware of the other10:39
ulissetremor_, so I didnt't understand anything about networking... :-((10:40
Goonieivoks~ no but you probably don't get those errors on boot either.10:40
ivoksGoonie paste them one more time10:40
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XplOzIonhi10:41
FourFingeredFredI installed Ubuntu, and I'm trying to set up ndiswrapper, but when i do make install i got an error that the kernel sources cannot be found, where do i get them?10:41
Goonieipw2200: Fatal error10:41
Goonieipw2200: Start IPW Error Log Dump:10:41
Goonieipw2200: Status: 0x00000100, Config: 0000014210:41
Goonieipw2200: Start IPW Event Log Dump:10:41
tremor_NNNNNNNN NNNNNNNN NNNNNNNN NNNNN HHH, meaning you have a lot of networks with very few PC's10:41
ivoksGoonie http://bughost.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=293&action=view like this?10:42
tremor_but beside that, using a subnet mask like that on a home network is really overkill10:42
XplOzIonhow do i fix brokes packages??10:42
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geneo91apt-get -f install10:43
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ulissetremor_, I have a network related problem too10:43
tremor_ulisse: shoot :-)10:43
Goonieivoks~ no just those 4 lines... then everything starts normal... wireless works and everything looks sweet... until the wireless connection dies10:43
freewoodyI have been given a job to setup a RAS Server which has 4 NIC cards10:43
ulissetremor_, I changed my LAN chip, hoary recognized it but I am unable to connect to my router anymore10:44
freewoodyI really am lost at the moment for the given job10:44
ulissetremor_, when I set the use of DHCP to get the IP, Hoary says that he can't start the interface10:44
freewoodyI am just given a list of IP Addresses and Netmaks and the default gateway10:44
tremor_ulisse: is your gateway properly configured ?10:44
freewoodyBy the way, my gateway is a router10:45
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freewoodyIs there any way to access that router10:45
ulissetremor_, with the old config the GW was retrieved automatically from the router10:45
ivoksGoonie nothing after log dump:? hm...10:45
XplOzIongeneo91, thanks10:45
geneo91np10:46
tremor_ulisse: try using command line commands, like:10:46
Goonieivoks~ no nothing.. everything seems to be working just fine for a while10:46
ivoksGoonie try to modprobe module with:10:46
ivoksGoonie modprobe ipw2200 debug=0x10ff10:46
freewoodyWhat is the best way to configure a Firewall for my Server running on Warty10:46
XplOzIonone of my hdds just died ='( sniff sniff10:47
tremor_ulisse: something like --> ifconfig ethX down && ifconfig ethX 192.168.0.X netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 && route add -net default gw 192.168.0.1 netmask 0.0.0.0 metric 1 ethX10:47
ivoksGoonie sorry10:47
tremor_&& ifconfig ethX up10:47
ivoksGoonie not that10:47
ivoksGoonie acctually, that's ok :)10:47
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IIIEarsXPlozion - if it is western digital or seagate there are some good tools on the manufacturers site that might revive it.10:48
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ulissetremor_, but in that way I use a fixed IP, not DHCP10:48
freewoodyHow do I configure IP Tables in Ubuntu ?10:48
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ivoksGoonie then rmmod it, and modprobe it normally again10:48
tremor_yes, i know, but just check if it works10:48
freewoodyHow can I change the default /home to /usr/home ?10:48
ivoksfreewoody ?10:49
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htaccesshi trying to get mp3 playback working in xmms as per: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats plays oggs not mp3, doesnt say i need to install a codec package, is this true how do i get it working?10:49
ulissetremor_, ok, I have to disconnect from here, to check. Back soon...10:49
ivoksfreewoody u meen when crating user?10:49
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ivoksfreewoody /etc/adduser.conf10:49
freewoodyI want to have the home directories /home shifted to /usr/home10:49
XplOzIonIIIEars, its a WD, and i do have a CD that fixs hdds, but i think that its demo softwares10:49
IIIEars"" - your question htaccess10:49
kellemellehallo10:49
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tremor_freewoody: it is a command line parameter for usermod and useradd10:49
kellemellekan iemand nl10:49
freewoodyWell I want the users to have the home directories in /usr/home10:49
htaccessIIIEars, hu?10:50
ivoksfreewoody that u specify when crating user10:50
XplOzIonIIIEars, the real pain is that it was my downloads hdd ='(10:50
wdhdoes anyone have any clue why 'nicotine' is not able to connect to its server after X has crashed?? it used to work fine.. and i _can_ ping it10:50
freewoodyI just want to /usr/home10:50
IIIEarsI haven't configured mp3's :/10:50
ivoksfreewoody or u can make it default behavior in /etc/adduser.conf10:50
wdhkellemelle, /join #ubuntu-nl10:50
ivoksfreewoody but, u'll have a lot problems with that...10:50
freewoodyIf a user types /home , it should automatically go to /usr/home10:50
ivoksfreewoody are u blind?10:51
kellemelleok10:51
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freewoodyWhy ?10:51
XplOzIonIIIEars, what tool can i use? where to get em?10:51
ivoksfreewoody we told u how10:51
freewoodyOK I get it10:51
freewoodyWhat will be the dangers of doing that ?10:51
IIIEarslol - i feel your pain lost 120gigs on an attempt at installing Suse - (do you hae any aspirin? i am fresh out.)10:51
kellemellehello10:52
IIIEarsit is on there support page - just a sec i'll find the link10:52
freewoodyivoks, how do I configure IP Tables or a easy firewall for my Server ?10:52
ivoksfreewoody a lot of apps look at /home/$username10:52
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Goonieivoks~ ok... I did what u said10:52
ivoksfreewoody reading manual and HOWTOs10:52
freewoodyOK, I got it10:52
XplOzIonIIIEars, damn just lost 80Gigs, 120gigs sata hdd coming this week =)10:52
kellemellehello10:52
XplOzIonhi10:53
Kamping_Kaiserkellemelle. are you in the right channel?10:53
wdhkellemelle, typ /join #ubuntu-nl, daar praten de mensen nederlands :)10:53
freewoodyIs there any firewall softwares that I can install using: apt-get  ?10:53
ivoksGoonie now take a look at /var/log/syslog10:53
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ivoksfreewoody yeah, iptables10:53
tremor_ivoks: that would be crappy apps then, they should all look for the HOME var, or use a decent method to get the home dir10:53
ivokstremor_ I agree10:53
IIIEarsouch i don't have the link. (sheepish grin)10:53
XplOzIonIIIEars, so what can i use to repair the hdd?10:53
ivokstremor_ but, they all don't10:53
freewoodyHow easy will IP Tables be to configure ?10:53
htaccessanyone got xmms playing mp3s?10:53
ivoksfreewoody never worked before? :)10:53
ivoksfreewoody very hard, then :)10:54
tremor_ivoks: could be, never tried creating a home dir outside /home10:54
Kamping_Kaiseryes htaccess. right now10:54
ivokshtaccess sure10:54
dailehtaccess, you should read the Ubuntu Starter Guide10:54
kellemellehallo10:55
IIIEarsi tried dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 limited success - the WD tools fixed the virtual partition trouble and set the rught dimensions.10:55
tremor_htaccess: install xmms+mpg123 or  xmms-mad+libmad10:55
wdhkellemelle, look in your private messages..10:55
IIIEarslinux hasn't done a thing for my spelling - lol10:55
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kellemellejoin #ubuntu10:55
MrMiaow"Hoary Hedgehog"? Ok I have to ask.. where did that come from? :)10:55
geneo91htaccess:  i do10:55
XplOzIonIIIEars, i see10:56
wdhkellemelle, je moet het volgende typen: /join #ubuntu-nl10:56
ivokstremor_ i never tried too on Debian or Ubuntu10:56
wdhin #ubuntu zit je al10:56
ivokstremor_ tried years ago with RedHat10:56
ivokstremor_ i guess that is fixed now..10:56
htaccessand did you need to do anything bweyond apt-get install xmms?10:56
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IIIEarsfreewoody - do you need to configure IP Tables or would a gui (Firestarter) be a bad idea?10:57
kellemelleheb ik gedaan10:57
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ivokshtaccess sudo apt-get install xmms.*  :))10:57
geneo91IIIEars:  no gui10:57
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htaccessdaile, i am following the docs word for word, they make no mention of xmms+mpg123 or  xmms-mad+libmad which i am going to install now10:57
daileoh, right10:57
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tremor_htaccess: you need to install a plugin for mp3 support (mpg123) and don't forget to use the esd output plugin in xmms, otherwise you won't have any sound10:58
ivokswell... i use rythmbox10:58
ivoks:)10:58
dailehtaccess, the old guide does. Sorry. I didn't know what I did, but it just works!10:58
dailehehe10:58
ivoksrhythmbox10:58
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HiddenWolfI need to install winxp, that'll overwrite my grub, how do I re-install grub then?10:58
htaccessincidentally xmms lists mpeg 1/2/3/ player plugin as enabled10:58
ircbot_lappy in the bed oh yeah10:58
ivoksdaile u need mpg123 plugin for xmms10:58
ircbot_htaccess: use a livecd10:58
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daileivoks, yeah, right!10:59
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ivokslol10:59
IIIEarstremor - Thanks10:59
ivokssorry, that was for htaccess :)10:59
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dailehehe10:59
ubuntu_fani'm looking for some mplayer help.... I installed mplayer-586, mplayer-fonts, mplayer-doc, & mencoder-586.  But whenever I try to play an mpeg, it crashes10:59
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Jimmothytry installing ffmpeg?11:00
ivoksubuntu_fan mplayer -vo x11 you.mpeg11:00
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mike_douglasI'm trying to get skippy-xd working, but am running into some errors11:00
nicedreamshow do I get ubuntu to download xmame .95 ?11:01
ivokshttp://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/11:01
ivoksdoesn't look good :(11:01
mipfinicedreams: wget httpurl11:01
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HiddenWolfI need to install winxp, that'll overwrite my grub, how do I re-install grub then?11:01
nicedreamsso the repositories don't have it eh?11:01
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dailehtaccess, usually when I need something involving xmms, I use synaptic and then search for xmms using both name and description. And then see which package I need. By that way, I install pretty much everything I need including something I never heard before!11:02
mike_douglashttp://c-monkey.net/problem.txt <- the errors11:02
ivoksHiddenWolf update-grub11:02
Jimmothynicedreams: install it from source?11:02
nicedreamsk11:02
mipfinicedreams: apt-get install xmame-x11:02
nicedreamsit's v.83 though11:02
mipfinicedreams: sudo apt-get install xmame-x11:02
nicedreamsin repositories from what I find11:02
HiddenWolfivoks, how do I get there, when winxp overwrites my option to boot to ubuntu? :)11:02
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nicedreamserr  .8611:03
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freewoodyHow do I change the Broadcast range for my NIC cards ?11:03
nicedreamsi guess it's mame.net for me11:03
MrMiaowHiddenWolf: boot from CD, mount linux partition11:03
geneo91nite all11:03
ivoksHiddenWolf place the ubuntu cd and type expert root=/dev/whatever my root is11:03
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ivoksHiddenWolf or... don't install xp :)11:03
HiddenWolfivoks, have to, sorry. :)11:04
ivoksi really miss that rescue image from woody11:04
XplOzIonmooo. Have you moooed today? lmao11:04
freewoodyCan I compile the 2.6.11 kernel the normal way in Ubuntu ?11:05
ivoksfreewoody well... the normal way?11:05
ivokssure u can compile it11:05
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freewoodyWell make mrproper, followed by make xconfig11:05
freewoodymake bzimage11:05
ivoksxconfig? and u don't have X?11:06
nicedreamsfreewoody: shouldn't he do it the debian way?11:06
freewoodyWhat debian way ?11:06
ivoksfreewoody make bzImage? come on... this is 2.611:06
ivoksfreewoody make menuconfig ; make ; make modules_install11:06
nicedreamsto compile the kernel11:06
nicedreamsfrom source11:06
kellemellehallo mensen11:07
nicedreamslook up in google "comiple kernel debian"11:07
XplOzIonhow can i set those tools on my desktop? whats the app to put them? like this pic http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/files/1/9/scr3_original.jpg11:07
freewoodymake mrproper, make menuconfig, make; make modules_install11:07
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ivoksfreewoody that's 2.4 way11:07
freewoodywhat about make bzImage11:07
MyNameIsChrismake_kpkg is better11:07
MyNameIsChris_ = -11:08
ivoksfreewoody make bzImage is 2.4 way11:08
revelateri have a slight problem with programs recognizing my cd drives...11:08
ivoksu don't need that anymore11:08
nicedreamsold school11:08
nicedreams2.4 way11:08
freewoodyWhat is the Debian way for installing and compling a 2.6.11 kernel ?11:08
ivoksMyNameIsChris make-kpg, not _ :)11:08
nicedreamsi have to find it again.  i don't remember off top my head11:08
ivoksoh.. u corrected, sorry :)11:08
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revelaterfor some reason when i try to install a program it cannot read the fact that the cd is in the drive11:09
nicedreamshttp://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/index.php11:09
MyNameIsChrisivoks, I corrected myself11:09
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Goonieivoks~ sorry was away for a bit.. what should I be looking at in /var/log/syslog?11:09
ivoksMyNameIsChris <ivoks> oh.. u corrected, sorry :)11:09
ivoksGoonie errors :)11:09
revelateranyone help?11:09
MyNameIsChrisivoks, You're forgiven11:09
revelater????11:10
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MyNameIsChrisrevelater, Is it mounted?11:10
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revelaterno i am somehow running a program from a n unmounted disk... :(11:11
revelatersorry for the sarcasm11:11
Jimmothycan someone help me unzip a file from the commandline? i need to untar it to /usr/share/gtetrinet/themes11:11
revelaterno offense11:11
MyNameIsChrisrevelater, Sorry for trying to help11:11
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ivoksjesus...11:11
ivokstoo much noobs :)11:12
freewoodySo how do I install a new Kernel the Ubuntu way ?11:12
Goonieivoks~ dunno if you would call these errors?11:12
GoonieApr 24 08:50:20 localhost dhclient: sit0: unknown hardware address type 77611:12
GoonieApr 24 08:50:20 localhost dhclient: sit0: unknown hardware address type 77611:12
GoonieApr 24 08:50:20 localhost dhclient: Bind socket to interface: No such device11:12
ivoksfreewoody there isn't ubuntu way :)11:12
ivoksGoonie errors related to ipw220011:12
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MyNameIsChrisfreewoody, man make-kpkg11:12
ivokspeople, i have to eat...11:13
ivoksbye :)11:13
dailebye11:13
revelaterMyNameIsChris: seriously though, i am not a COMPLETE noob, it is simply an odd question to ask11:13
freewoodyAll is commands is driving me mad11:14
b0ol_where to get a wma /  wmv codec?11:14
ircbot_b0ol_: win32codecs11:14
fejaoranyone who know about this error when starting ubuntu?? "pnp: PnPACPI:METHOD_NAME_ _CRS failure for PNP0C01" and the same again but at the end with PNP0C0211:15
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ircbot_from multiverse11:15
MyNameIsChrisrevelater, Could you explain your problem further, all I gathered was it couldn't read that there was a cd in the drive11:15
b0ol_hm... lets see11:15
b0ol_but thnx anyway :)11:15
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b0ol_ircbot_11:16
b0ol_how to add multiverse?11:16
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LISPhello11:16
daileB0ol_, if it doesn't work let me know, I can help you11:16
LISPdoes anyone use ubu with xfce?11:16
revelaterMyNameIsChris: close as i can come, any game that i install, that needs the install cd, cannot find it11:16
ircbot_go into synaptic, go to repo's, go to add, choose multiverse and universe11:16
revelaterMyNameIsChris: repeatedly asks me to put it in11:16
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daile b0ol_: you can modify the source.list or using Synaptic11:16
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revelaterMyNameIsChris: as if it was looking in the wrong place11:17
b0ol_repo's?11:17
daile b0ol_: have you read the Ubuntu starter guide11:17
LISPi want to enable transparency in xfce, and it sais somethinf about xserver6.811:17
LISPwhich xserver does ubu use?11:17
b0ol_yes i did11:17
daileb0ol_: here it is http://ubuntuguide.org/#repositories11:17
Kamping_Kaiserlisp which versiuon?11:17
revelaterx.org11:17
b0ol_ah got it11:17
b0ol_thnx11:17
b0ol_cya11:17
daileno problem11:17
Kamping_Kaiserhoary x.org, warty xfree8611:17
XplOzIonam i able to usesuperkaramba in gnome??11:18
ulisse_tremor_, I'm back! Now it works!11:18
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ircbot_everytime i modify the source.list it tells me it can't find the repo... even when i just uncommented multiverse and universe11:18
LISPi upgraded hoary to warty, but when i removed xfreeserver the x system didn't start :(11:18
ircbot_but if i use synaptic to do it... works the same11:18
LISPalthouh u had xorg installed11:18
ircbot_i still don't understand that11:19
LISPalthouh i had xorg installed11:19
daileXplOzIon: I dont know if you can, but you can use gDesklets, which is quite the same to superkaramba11:19
tremor_ulisse_: great11:19
Kamping_Kaiserlisp, did you upgrade from warty to hoary, or downgrade hoary to warty?11:19
LISPwarty to hoary11:20
LISPnot distro upgrade, but group select in synaptic11:20
Kamping_Kaiserso do you have a gui?11:20
ulisse_tremor_, it seems to be due to the router, that probably stores the mac address of the lan interface. I flushed the router's eeprom and now it works.11:20
LISPi have a gui11:20
freewoodyHow do I assign 2 different IPs for a single NIC Card using the interface eth0 ?11:20
LISPbut i think i'm still runnint xfree11:20
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LISPi mean i have xserver4.3 or something - 16 megs11:20
ulisse_tremor_, now I only have to put back on the other LAN card to connect my other PC11:20
LISPand xorg6.8 156 megs11:21
LISPwhich is operational?11:21
LISP:|11:21
XplOzIondaile, oh ok but with gdesklets where can i get the tool bar like superkaramba?11:21
ulisse_tremor_, thanks again, see you.11:21
freewoodyHow do I assign 2 different IPs for a single NIC Card using the interface eth0 ?11:21
Kamping_Kaiser6.8 i expect, as its the bigger one11:21
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LISPthat's good, as it means i can use transparencies11:22
Kamping_Kaiseryou could do a dist upgrade11:22
Kamping_Kaiserbbs11:22
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htaccessfreewoody, setup eth0:0 in /etc/network/interfaces11:22
LISPnow i have to find out if xfce has transps enabled11:22
htaccessthen ifup eth0:011:22
daileXplOzIon: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/11:22
htaccessmake eth0:0 like eth0 except the gateway11:22
XplOzIondaile, thanks!11:23
daileno problem11:23
ubuntu_fanstill having mplayer problems.  Here's some of the output.... Opening video decoder: [mpegpes]  MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough11:24
ubuntu_fanVDec: vo config request - 304 x 208 (preferred csp: Mpeg PES)11:24
ubuntu_fanCould not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...11:24
ubuntu_fanOpening video filter: [scale] 11:24
ubuntu_fanThe selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.11:24
ubuntu_fanVDecoder init failed :(11:24
ubuntu_fanOpening video decoder: [libmpeg2]  MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b11:24
ubuntu_fanSelected video codec: [mpeg12]  vfm:libmpeg2 (MPEG 1 or 2 (libmpeg2))11:24
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daileubuntu_fan:  did you install it using apt-get. If it doesn't work well, then you should compile it from source11:25
daileubuntu_fan: http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt11:25
Q_ContinuumModem gurus, identify yourselves!11:27
Q_Continuumlol11:27
Q_ContinuumI've got a USR 5610B...system sees it, but won't use it.11:28
barneyDoes anyone know if it's possible to get an intel 536EP based modem working on Ubuntu?11:28
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barneyIntel provides a driver as a kernal module in a tarball, but it doesn't seem to work here.11:28
Q_Continuumhas worked in previous iterations of Linux (mandrake, red hat, fedora..)11:28
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Q_Continuumwith no work, but ubuntu just doesn't want to autodetect it, or dial.11:29
VixusHey, I've got a digital camera USB'd up to my box, how do I dump pics off it? (Windows treated it like a removable USB stick).11:29
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VixusHow do I detect the camera 'disk'?11:30
TuxicityVixus, i dont own a camera, but i think DigiKam or something is the app for the job11:30
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ircbot_Vixus: apt-get install digikam11:30
Vixusthanks11:31
LISPhow could i find compile-time flags?11:31
Q_Continuumwhere is there a list of all these useful little programs...?11:31
ircbot_digikam is the shixz0r!#@!$ OMGWTFBBQ11:31
ircbot_i'm slap happy... sorry11:31
LISPi wanna know if xfce has transparencies enabled11:31
wdhVixus, you could probably just try to mount /dev/sda or /dev/sdaX11:31
ircbot_LISP: huh?  what do you mean?11:31
MyNameIsChrispkg-config --cflags xfce (Maybe)11:31
ircbot_LISP: np i see11:31
Vixusircbot_: Digikam good or bad? XD11:31
LISPi know xfce supports transps11:32
ircbot_Vixus: digikam rocks... i love it11:32
LISPbut i don't think it's enabled :(11:32
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ircbot_yeah i do not like that sometimes... can't you get the source packages and compile a deb from those?11:32
ircbot_i've never done that... anyone got some tips?11:32
LISPi think i will..not nice :|11:33
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LISPgentoo is looking more and more appealing11:33
ircbot_because i want to recompile gossip... the binary has like no preferences and it should11:33
ircbot_LISP: ever installed it?11:33
LISPas mplayer doesn't have gui enabled11:33
LISPand so on11:33
ircbot_LISP: yes it does11:33
LISPircbot: no, but i will11:33
ircbot_it just pulls gmplayer11:33
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locomortosort of11:33
locomortoLISP: sort of*11:33
ircbot_LISP: ha ... it's a hell of an install11:33
locomortodownload it and see for yourself11:33
LISPircbot: gmplayer isn't there11:33
locomortoits apt-get(able)11:34
ircbot_LISP: it's the only time i've ever had to read the handbook for an install in years11:34
VixusGod, I should be revising for my exams... >_<11:34
LISPircbot: amybe different repository?11:34
Vixusonlyl 3 weeks left11:34
ircbot_umm... i used multiverse11:34
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LISPircbot: and you mean you have gmplayer? not likely11:34
ircbot_LISP: it's fucking there you ass.  i don't like being called a liar btw11:35
ircbot_especially when i'm tired and grumpy11:35
LISPi've had this discussion before on the same forum11:35
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LISPunless it's a new package11:35
=== MyNameIsChris hands ircbot_ his juice
LISPmplayer doesn't have ---enable-gui11:36
LISPmplayer doesn't have --enable-gui11:36
LISPi can bet on it11:36
ircbot_LISP: it's fucking there... i have no special repos... do you want a god damn screen shot?11:36
LISPyes :D11:36
ircbot_give me just a second you asshat11:36
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Q_Continuumgrrrrr.  *kicks his modem* WORK stupid thing WORRRRRRKKKKK11:37
dazzedlol11:37
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trustHi!11:37
dazzedi want a screen shot11:37
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ircbot_give me a second i'm getting my repo's list up and shit too11:37
Q_Continuumso take one.11:37
dazzedtheres like 6 million mplayers to download11:38
b0ol_ircbot_ its calledw32codecs11:38
Q_Continuumthe system sees my modem.  but won't use it if it's life depended on it.11:38
nostromo^im trying to use hoary live to change my /dev/sda partition table (resizing the extended to the end of the disk), and it keeps telling me the partition is "busy" and i should umount it..11:38
dazzedoh well yeah u need those11:38
dazzedw32codecs from mallirat11:38
ircbot_b0ol_: you can get it from multiverse under the same name i do believe11:38
Q_Continuumanybody here know much about modems?11:38
dazzednostromo^: sda is like usb disks and such11:38
trustAny idea if there's some sort of guied tool around for multimonitor config?11:38
nicedreamsanyone have a deb package for xmame .95 ?11:39
b0ol_i didnt find win32 but w3211:39
Q_ContinuumIT'S NOT A WINMODEM! (so we don't have to deal with that crap)11:39
dazzednostromo^: if ur trying to do hard drive it should be like hda11:39
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LISPircbot: do you have mplayer 586?11:39
nostromo^dazzed, and also SATA disks, and SCSI disks, and pretty much a lot of other stuff. so what?11:39
dazzedLISP: get the w32codecs from mallirat11:39
MyNameIsChrisdazzed, sczi or serial hdd11:39
MyNameIsChrisDamn11:39
dazzednostromo^: ok i was just checking to see if thats what ur trying to partition11:39
ircbot_LISP: http://irclikelife.com/pics/ass.png11:39
dazzednostromo^: are u using sda in any form...running anything from it?11:40
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Seveasgoooooooooooooooooooooooooodmoooooooooooooooooooorning #ubuntu11:41
Seveas:)11:41
nostromo^dazzed, nope.11:41
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Kamping_Kaiserhi seveas11:41
LISPircbot: i saw the picture, now i'm changing mplayer to 58611:41
dazzedircbot_: my desktop owns yours11:41
dazzedlol11:41
LISPircbot: if it works i apologize11:41
dazzedhmm11:41
LISPircbot: but mplayer custom doesn't have gui trust me11:41
Seveasircbot_, you need mplayer-custom iirc11:41
ircbot_dazzed: heh that wasn't the point11:41
ircbot_Seveas: why do i need mplayer custom?11:42
Seveasircbot_, because that one is made for ubuntu11:42
LISPircbot: although they have a package that says nogui, too11:42
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ircbot_Seveas: umm huh?11:42
Seveasand also: you should take it from the ubuntu repos, not marillat11:42
ircbot_Seveas: i use ubuntu?11:42
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dazzedircbot_: www.trip-p.com/images/desktops/flux-blue-night.jpg11:42
ircbot_it's not from marillat11:42
ircbot_wtf11:42
Q_ContinuumGRRRRRR...damn you debian based OSes!11:42
ircbot_i didn't ask for anything Seveas11:43
LISPircbot: debian is great11:43
Q_Continuumdebian and ubuntu are the only linux OSes that refuse to work with my modem.11:43
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ircbot_wtf11:43
LISPq-continuum: debian is great11:43
ircbot_i'm all kinds of confused11:43
Q_ContinuumMandrake, Red Hat and Fedora all detect it (like debian/ubuntu does) but THEY LET ME USE IT11:43
dazzedlol11:43
wdhQ_Continuum, i assume you forget about the rest of the debian-based distro's :)11:43
dazzeddebian is great11:43
LISPWAHOOOOO11:43
Q_ContinuumI can see it but I can't do crap with it.11:43
LISPMPLAYER 586 HAS GUI :d11:43
ircbot_dazzed: you should see my desktop11:43
Q_Continuum>.<11:43
ircbot_and no i'm not getting up to take a screenshot11:43
dazzedircbot_: i feel ur struggle11:44
wdhQ_Continuum, file a bug-report then11:44
Q_Continuummmmkay11:44
Q_ContinuumI pushed my hardware report to them just now pointing out that my modem doesn't work. lol.11:44
dazzedircbot_: heh...i live for customization of my computer11:44
Q_Continuumit sees it under device manager correctly, but under Device and Capabilities, I have "unknown"11:44
ircbot_i do a lot more customizing on my desktop11:44
dazzedim on my lappy in bed too ircbot_ :)11:45
ircbot_haha oh yeah11:45
dazzedif thats where u are11:45
dazzedlol yeah i run gnome from lappy11:45
LISPthat fluxbox thingie :p is it really worth it?11:45
ircbot_i didn't find a good enough reason to not run gnome on this box11:45
dazzedheh i got a special spot for my lap right on my nightstand11:45
ircbot_i use blackbox on my desktop though11:45
dazzed:)11:46
ircbot_i pack mine back in it's bag because i have animals that'll fuck it up11:46
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ircbot_i just realized i'm supposed to drive my mom somewhere at 5am11:46
Q_Continuumlol11:47
ircbot_it's 4:47am11:47
ircbot_looks like i won't be sleeping yet11:47
Q_Continuum*curses even more at his modem*11:47
whiteknightQ_Continuum, what is your modem11:47
whiteknight?11:47
Q_ContinuumUSR 5610b...lemme get the non technical name11:47
dazzedlol understandable...i used blackbox for windows for like 3 years before i got onto actual linux...i like flux better only cuz of the tabbed windows...also where are the deps for mplayer...what repo?11:47
Q_ContinuumUS Robotics Performance Pro11:48
dazzed447 for me too ircbot_11:48
ircbot_tabbed windows?11:48
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ircbot_dazzed: multiverse11:48
dazzedu can put like 12 windows into 111:48
ircbot_ah that's interesting11:48
dazzedit says that it cant find certain deps11:48
dazzedbut my multiverse is fine11:48
LISPvery nice, but when do you ever have so many on, except terms?11:48
ircbot_i don't think would like different stuff in one tab11:48
LISPgaim has tabs, so does mozilla11:49
ircbot_i like tabbing my consoles, chats, webpages11:49
ircbot_but not together11:49
dazzedwell i combine my xchat and gnome term and synaptic (if i use all 3)11:49
LISPand how long did it take you to customize?11:49
ircbot_i wouldn't even tab my messages if i could make psi use esd11:49
ircbot_but i can't heh11:49
Kamping_Kaiseri have lots of tabs for chats, but all my consoles are independant11:49
dazzedbut i use irssi and aterm s11:49
dazzedso noo need to combine11:50
Q_ContinuumUbuntu identifies the modem correctly as a "56K FaxModem Model 5610" but refuses to dial or autodetect it under network config, so it has not /dev/whatever >.<11:50
ircbot_i've used aterm for so very long, but started using gnome-terminal after i put ubuntu on this box11:50
whiteknightQ_Continuum, when you do dmesg does it appear anywhere?11:50
LISPq_cont: nice...11:50
LISPq_cont: debian did the same with my sound card11:50
whiteknightQ_Continuum, also is there a driver loaded? check lsmod11:50
LISPircbot: kosole was nice too11:51
ircbot_LISP it is, but i don't have kde11:51
LISPircbot: me neither :D11:51
Q_Continuumlooking through dmesg, will look through lsmod...11:51
ircbot_i do on my other box... but i'm not putting it on this one11:51
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ircbot_if i started over i might put kubuntu on here instead of ubuntu, but for some reason i chose the gnome version when i'm normally a kde person when forced to choose11:52
whiteknightQ_Continuum, this might help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17669311:52
ircbot_but gnome hasn't made me regret it really11:52
dazzedlol it says it has deps on packages i already have....11:52
dazzedinsane11:52
LISPircbot: how long did it take you to arrange black/flux/whatever?11:52
ircbot_eh 10 minutes11:52
dazzedif u want the basics takes as long as it takes to compile the source11:53
LISP10 mins? with themes and so? if i remember well those wm use text config11:53
dazzedbut if you want your OWN flux or blackbox is never done configgin11:53
LISPi just tried it11:53
ircbot_LISP yep but i'm used to it11:53
LISPi'm not scared to tinker, i like it11:53
ircbot_besides i do believe there is a package for flux that will set up a menu for you11:53
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dazzedthere is a flux package but dont use it11:54
xukunwhat is the problem with apt-get update, I,m geting a lot of failed errors11:54
dazzedcuz then u cant have menu pics11:54
dazzedu have to compile with imlib211:54
phuckdapoorgood morrow11:54
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Q_Continuumnothing in either of those.11:54
ircbot_eh i don't need menu pics, but i didn't use it either... especially since i'm on blackbox11:54
ircbot_i emerge -C 'd fluxbox11:55
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LISPhave you tried xfce?11:55
Q_Continuumlspci finds something though on the modem.11:55
whiteknightQ_Continuum, i'm really sorry but i've got to go, but perhaps this might help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/27911:55
whiteknightQ_Continuum, though it isn't directly for ubunut, it might give some pointers11:55
LISPit's cool...and you can make it even cooler :p11:55
dazzedemerge?? u on gentoo?11:55
ircbot_my desktop is11:55
dazzedoh ok11:55
whiteknightQ_Continuum, oh and yeah lspci will, cause it looks directly at the pci ports11:56
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dazzedgentoo seems to be most flux users preference11:56
whiteknightQ_Continuum, good luck11:56
ircbot_anything happens ... such as i completely fuxor the desktop and have to reinstall... ima go to kubuntu on it11:56
phuckdapoorJesus christ no11:56
phuckdapoorno fuxor11:56
dazzedahhh11:56
phuckdapoorno roxour11:56
ircbot_because i don't care to remove gentoo when it runs great, but i don't care to install it again either11:56
dazzedu killed me irc11:56
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phuckdapoorno hardcore11:56
AvvYwhat terminal command do i use to extract a .tar.bz2 file?11:56
Q_Continuumthat second link might help whitenight...11:56
dazzedhow could u go kde11:56
LISPtar -jxf11:56
dazzedtisk tisk11:57
AvvYthanx!11:57
shinuhey!11:57
Q_Continuumit's the right model so I hope...11:57
LISPavvy: welcome11:57
AvvYLISP: thank you :) - i just started using ubuntu yesterday - thus, started using linux yesterday11:57
Q_Continuumshould I just use alien to install the rpm?11:57
shinucould anyone remind me the command to switch off gdm at each startup?11:57
shinuand other programs as well11:57
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LISPq_cont: guess so11:57
LISPq_cont: don't use rpm, that's for sure11:58
dazzedLISP: you know if u hit tab when typing someones name it types the whole name11:58
LISPdazzed: >:P11:58
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dazzedheh...looked like u needed to be informed11:59
LISPdazzed: no problem11:59
ircbot_can you auto update a generic kernel with ubuntu?11:59
LISPdazzed: just lazy, today11:59
Hmmmmguys my gnome taskbar had crashed and i added a normal bar there. now the apps dont appear on the taskbar. what do i do?11:59
dazzedircbot_: im not sure about AUTO updating but i know u can update11:59
ircbot_because i will give fedora that... that was pretty spiffy to implement auto kernel updating.11:59
LISPircbot: autoupdate? as in apt-get kernel or what?11:59
ilucivhi ya does anyone know if I can use nvtv with a ti 4200 nvidia card and ubuntu??12:00
ircbot_pretty much12:00
ircbot_from the confused questions i'll take that as a no12:00
LISPircbot: you could write a script :p12:00
ircbot_i don't intend on using such a feature... i love custom compiling, but if i were working on a few hundred servers i could see a serious advantage of fedora12:00
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LISPircbot: why fedora? does it do it automatically? perhaps sec updates..12:01
ircbot_being able to say "yum update" or whatever and having a new patched kernel auto added was cool... but it didn't cut it for the desktop12:01
dazzedircbot_: well ubuntu has some work before it should be used for servers12:01
nicedreamsircbot_: you can do that in ubuntu12:01
ircbot_dazzed: eh if debian can be used with servers...12:01
LISPircbot: you can do it, because debian can12:01
LISPircbot: and if debian isn't better than fedora...12:02
nicedreamscan't you just    apt-get install linux-686    or whatever your processor is and it will update the kernel in an upgrade for you and add it to grub12:02
dazzedircbot_: and i told u that u can apt-get a kernel...but u cant AUTO update everytime one is released12:02
ircbot_nicedreams: really?  that's just neat... like i said... won't use it, but it's handy to be able to do12:02
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ircbot_dazzed: well it wasn't everytime one was released on fedora, but whenever they packaged one up12:02
shinuanyone can help me to switch off gdm for good?12:02
dazzedgotcha12:03
nicedreamsi have a few kernels in my grub conf from doing that12:03
dazzedi was under the impression you wanted it done for you a certain time once a month or something12:03
LISPnicedreams: use apt-get remove...12:03
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nicedreamslisp, ?12:03
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ircbot_what's the best way to add a module to load at startup?12:04
LISPnicedreams: remove those unwanted entries12:04
nicedreamsoh12:04
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nicedreamslol.... i should.  I just forget once i'm booted up12:04
LISPnicedreams: you don't need 10 kernel backups or so12:04
Tuxicityircbot_, /etc/modules ?12:04
herrie-aabhello do somebody know something about nicotine filesharing??12:04
nicedreamswhy hasen't encrypted file sharing caught on?12:04
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ircbot_Tuxicity: thanks12:05
herrie-aabnicedreams, what do you meen?12:05
Tuxicityircbot_, np12:05
VixusHey, can I use the s-video out port on my nVidia card with linux?12:05
ircbot_nicedreams: it doesn't work really... not on p2p12:05
supertedcan't I use the warty intall or livecd to install grub?12:05
dazzedVixus: sure12:05
nicedreamslike the IRAA can see what your doing and get you for downloading the wrong stuff, but they can't with encrypted file sharing like the nulsoft waste program that AOL got mad about12:05
ircbot_nicedreams: because it might hide the transfer from say... the ISPs, but if you are trying to hide from say the RIAA ... well they are actually getting on the networks to download from you and make records of it12:06
dazzedsuperted: u can use a live cd to install grub12:06
nicedreamsbut it's illegal for someone to decrypt information without permission12:06
herrie-aabdo you need some serverlist for nicotine???12:06
mipfiVixus: sudo apt get install nvtv12:06
ircbot_nicedreams: they get you not by watching your files you are transfering, but instead by having someone actually download from you12:06
nicedreamsso the iraa would be breaking the law12:06
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ircbot_nicedreams: but if you want to use a p2p network you'll have to agree to let people decrypt it... or they'd get shut down for breaking the law12:07
herrie-aabcan somebody help me with filesharing????12:07
Vixusmipfi: Wow, there's a program for EVERYTHING. Ubuntu is magic!12:07
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superteddazzed: how? the warty one didin't seem to have a "rescue" option12:07
Vixusmipfi: How do I use it?12:07
ircbot_lol12:07
ircbot_lmao12:07
ircbot_that was nice vixus12:07
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Vixusircbot_: hmm?12:07
mipfiVixus: i have never testet the tv out from my geforce but when there is a tool i think it works :)12:08
ircbot_you were just like "There is a program for everything!" then "how do i use it?"12:08
herrie-aabdazzed, can you help me with file sharing with nicotine 1.0.8rc1???????????????????????????????????????12:08
dazzedsuperted: im not quite sure on how ud go about installing it from live cd seeing is how i have never done it but i dont think its in the 'rescue' feature this isnt M$ lol :)12:08
Vixusmipfi: I have a geforce4 MX 440, so... I'll tell you how it goes.12:08
ircbot_apt-get install it vixus and then man it12:08
dazzedherrie-aab: im not to sure i could12:08
Vixusircbot_: k,12:08
herrie-aabdazzed,do you know something about it??:S:S12:09
superteddazzed: instructions from ubuntuguide on how you'd do it with hoary livecd says that there is a 'rescue' boot option :)12:09
mipfiVixus: install nvtv and start it :)12:09
dazzedVixus: apt-get install nvidia-glx && apt-get install nvidia-settings12:09
dazzedsuperted: oh thats just booting into console12:09
dazzedtheres nothing rescue about it lol12:09
ircbot_i still can't get the nvidia drivers to go widescreen12:09
ircbot_tried every fix i've found12:10
iluciverh HELP how do I revert back to my backup xorg.conf file now that I've screw the one I was using from command line :(12:10
nicedreamsircbot_: download the official nvidia drivers and use those12:10
dazzedsuperted: and that would be kinda hard considering you have to boot that from grub or command line12:10
nicedreamsi find them to work better for me in ubuntu12:10
nicedreamsjust sh the file you download12:10
nicedreamsand make sure you have the kernel headers or the kernel source12:10
ircbot_superted: actually i think you can list the kernels and one is like rescue at boot12:10
supertedircbot_: with the warty livecd?12:10
ircbot_but yeah it's just booting to console12:11
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ircbot_and you can go in and try to fix whatever you broke12:11
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Raskallahh.. synctree was just what I needed for synchronizing home-directories between laptops and server. But to automate it I need to run a command when logging out of gnome. is there a .logout or similar functionality in linux/gnome/ubuntu?12:11
ircbot_superted: never used warty12:11
ircbot_i'm a new convert12:11
nicedreamslol....i always use test versions of distros also12:11
ilucivpls12:12
Tuxicityiluciv, mv /backup/file /real/file12:12
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Tuxicityiluciv, is that it?12:12
ircbot_one of these days i'll have enough computers to put all the distro's on that i can handle heh12:12
Tuxicityiluciv, mv -i /backup/file /real/file12:12
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Tuxicityiluciv, second one is better12:12
ircbot_what's the -i option do for mv?12:12
Tuxicityiluciv, replace with appropriate paths12:13
ilucivTuxicity: thanks btw do you know if I can use nvtv with a ti 420012:13
dazzedircbot_: i got a buddy (a fellow fluxor) i think he has run every distro known to linux12:13
Tuxicityircbot_, i is for interactive (overwrite prompt)12:13
Valentin-is it possible that evolution doesn't support ports like 8181 in the OWA url?12:13
Tuxicityiluciv, never heard of nvtv12:13
locomortoValentin: check your firewall settings12:14
ircbot_dazzed: i've run a lot... but mostly just the popular ones12:14
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ilucivTuxicity: thanks heaps anyways12:14
ircbot_dazzed: you should see my ISO cd collection12:14
Tuxicityiluciv, np12:14
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dazzedircbot_: lol :) i can only imagine12:14
Valentin-locomorto, checking which settings?12:14
locomortofirewall12:15
locomortoyou know, blocked incoming 8181?12:15
ircbot_why are the LINKSYS WRT54GX Wireless Routers so freaking expensive compared to their others?  they offer the same thing... does it go out like a mile?12:15
locomortolike it is by default i believe?12:15
dazzedi really need to put some work into the webpage12:15
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ircbot_dazzed: i've got about a dozen distro's if you count bsd's as distros heh12:15
ircbot_plus livecds12:15
Tomcat_ircbot_: Isn't that the one that runs Linux?12:15
dazzedircbot_: i think that is there wireless g ap12:15
Valentin-locomorto, but 8181 is would be outgoing not incoming12:16
shinucan anyone tell me how to switch off gdm for good?12:16
ircbot_g ap?12:16
Tuxicityiluciv, after thought, it appears nvtv should work with about any nvidia card (with tv ot)12:16
LISPgdm for goom?12:16
dazzedwireless g accespoint...12:16
locomortodoes not matter12:16
dazzedthe new band of wireless frequencies12:16
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ircbot_okay12:16
LISPshinu:  and replce it with?12:16
locomortoit still needs to be ublocked12:16
Tomcat_"new" :)12:16
ircbot_but they have others that offer wireless g12:16
locomortoits the way TCP works12:16
shinuLISP: no replacing :D i want text login12:16
ircbot_that are like $4012:16
dazzedi got linksys wireless g network card...but it gest no wireless g use without a g accesspoint12:17
locomortoad-hoc?12:17
LISPshinu: uninstall gdm, and don't startx12:17
dazzedi think the ones that offer wireless g are ones that are "compatible" with wireless g which is just a marketing gimmic cuz wireless g is compatible with all wireless bands12:17
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LISPone sec, till i remember the init file12:17
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shinuLISP: wasnt there a command for that?12:18
shinuLISP: i think last time someone gave me the command that show also other daemons and runlevels12:18
dazzedlooks like im not oging to sleep today12:18
dazzedi should roll up a joint and play some supertux12:18
Tuxicitydazzed, that new WiMax thing, will it replace 802.11g or is it different?12:18
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dazzedTuxicity: im confused...u talking about the drivers...never heard of WiMax12:19
dazzedohhh ok12:19
Tuxicitydazzed, noped, but u looked like u knew a lot 'bout wireless...12:19
dazzedi gotcha now12:19
dazzedi have heard of that12:20
LISPshinu: i remember, but i have to look it up, it's been a while since i used text login12:20
ircbot_WiMax seems interesting12:20
Tuxicitydazzed, talking about WiMax and 802.11i etc.12:20
ircbot_but i haven't read much on it12:20
dazzedi misread ur question12:20
dazzedbut i think they are completely seperate12:20
Valentin-locomorto, disabled the firewall no changes12:20
dazzedlike ircbot_ i havent read anything on the wimax12:20
Tuxicitydazzed, my question was vague12:20
LISPshinu: edit inittab12:20
ilucivTuxicity: thanks12:20
locomortodunno then sorry :(. try the forums12:20
ircbot_i know they used it on some train system not long ago12:20
ircbot_that was impressive12:20
dazzedlol im dislexic to a point...i mix up words and put em in different places12:21
Tuxicityiluciv, was nothing (really..)12:21
LISPshinu: /etc/inittab, change the runlevel to..12:21
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Valentin-how do I search for packages via apt-get?12:21
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dazzedValentin-: apt-cache search <package?12:22
ircbot_dazzed: me to... runs in my family... but you get used to it eh?12:22
locomortoapt-cache search12:22
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dazzedircbot_: yeah it seems to only happen when reading computer lines12:22
locomortoVAlentin: as above12:22
dazzednot so much in books12:22
xukuncan somebody paste a good sources.list file for me? I think mine no good any more12:22
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ircbot_dazzed: ah well it happens to me on everything.  i screw up all kinds of stuff, but i read a lot so it has weened off a lot12:23
dazzedi really need to just spark a joint and finish up superutx12:23
ircbot_since my younger days12:23
Valentin-dazzed, I thought so too, but I get E: invalid operation search, to I have to configure my apt-get list?12:23
dazzedValentin-: only if ur sources arent enabled which it seems like12:23
dazzedit doesnt*12:23
dazzedinvalid operation search hmmm12:23
dazzedu sure u spelled it right?12:24
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dazzed'apt-cache search package12:24
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barneyI'm tryint to set up a 536EP modem, following instructions at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IntelFiveThreeSixEPModemHowto, but when I try to patch the source, I get the error ' patch: **** strip count l is not a number'. Any ideas?12:24
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Tuxicityxukun, ya check www.pastebin.com12:24
locomortoValentin- btw, you use this format: someaddress.com:8181 right?12:24
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Valentin-locomorto, yes12:25
Tuxicityxukun, under Tuxicity12:25
LISPi'm totally lost..how can i have two xservers installed?12:26
n3el o12:26
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xukunTuxicity, thanks a lot12:26
Tuxicityxukun, emm and remove that "<PHP" part... ok?12:26
LISPi have both xfree and xorg12:26
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Tuxicityxukun, my pleasure12:26
LISPsith configs and stuff12:27
ircbot_LISP: why do you have them both?12:27
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LISPircbot_: because i did a sort of distro upgrade12:27
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LISPircbot_: when i tried to uninstall xfree gdm would'n fire up12:28
Tuxicityxukun, BTW that's for Hoary!12:28
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shinuLISP: should i maybe ask on #debian? might they know?12:28
ircbot_LISP: i see...12:28
ircbot_LISP: so you did what?  like changed the repo's and did an update and upgrade?12:28
LISPshinu: maybe, it's not ubu/debian specific, i just can't remember the no-X runlevel12:29
LISPircbot_: no, same repo& stuff, just selected in synaptic groups of apps, alphabetically ordered, to upgrade12:29
TuxicityLISP, that would be rc3 i believe12:29
LISPircbot_: during 2 days12:29
dazzedwhen did kdelibs get an upgrade12:30
ircbot_i see12:30
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ircbot_well i gotta run12:30
LISPshinu: edit /etc/inittat adn change default runlevel to 312:30
TuxicityLISP, wow wait, im not sure12:30
LISPshinu: you're better of reading the manual..i'm too tired for this :P12:31
xukunTuxicity, even with that soureces list I get failed errors with apt-get update12:32
mike_douglaswatching the new Family Guy (it leaked to bt). There back :'( (tears of joy)12:32
shinuLISP: i meant the command to switch off gdm at runlevel 2(<=if i remember well)12:33
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T6re hi12:33
LISPme go to bed...anyway why switch off? better not start it at all..12:34
Tuxicityxukun, just updated, no errors12:35
Tuxicityxukun, you are running Hoary?12:35
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xukunTuxicity, yes12:35
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VixusHmm, digikam won't detect my camera... Ubuntu won't detect my camera...12:35
Vixusonly Windows detects my camera >:|12:35
AbeXhello12:36
AbeX;] 12:36
dazzedis anyone good with italian12:36
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dazzedwho wants to translate a wiki?12:36
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Tuxicitydazzed, ask on #ubuntu-it12:36
VixusCrappy windows, gotta go back to it always.12:36
VixusCause ubuntu won't do the magic! :D12:36
dazzedTuxicity: good idea12:36
pmjdebruijnis it possible / wise to use debian kernel to update ubuntu12:36
pmjdebruijni want to run 2.6.11 (without compiling, it's a slow machine)12:37
Tuxicityxukun, what's an error like?12:37
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Tuxicityxukun, which repo fails?12:37
xukunTuxicity, http://www.pastebin.com/27521512:37
Vixuswell, see ya.12:37
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AbeXcan you help me? :) i want to install ubuntu on the computer, where now windows is installed, can i do it and use after installation both operation systems ?12:37
locomortopmjdebruijn if you want 2.6.11 go to breezy12:38
CshellI am trying to boot with ubuntu from cd....it starts and i type live or just hit enter and it goes through the boot process then goes back to the same screen any ideas12:38
VixusAbeX: Yes, like I have to.12:38
pmjdebruijnlocomorto: you mean a full update, entirely to breezy, or just the kernel?12:38
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VixusAbeX: Resize the windows partition, create a new empty parition, install ubuntu on that partition BE CAREFUL!!12:38
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p88hi does bash_completion need to be executable?12:39
locomortofull update12:39
locomortoyou ight want to wait a while untill its not SO crazy12:39
dailep88: I think so, must be executable12:39
dailep88: for command completion12:40
daile:)12:40
p88ok12:40
xukunTuxicity, did you got that/12:40
pmjdebruijnlocomorto: right... hmmmm :(12:40
Cshellcan anyone help me with booting ubuntu from cd?12:40
locomortoyes12:40
Tuxicityxukun, yep. make sure your firewall isnt blocking it?12:41
locomortohave you changed the bios Cshell?12:41
locomortowait i saw the message above12:41
AbeXVixus i already have second partition, but it is not empty (there is my video collection), can i install ubuntu here and save my data ? :)12:41
locomortois this the live CD or install CD?12:41
pmjdebruijnCshell: with some BIOSses, you can press ESC to get a 'boot from' list....12:41
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xukunTuxicity, I dont have one12:42
Cshelllive cd....i get the ubuntu startup screen...but when i hit enter...it uncompresses then goes back to same scree12:42
TuxicityAbeX, well you need an empty partition12:42
xukunthis is most strange12:42
xukunrrrrrrr12:42
AbeXempty? ok, thanks12:43
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dazzedhey...whats eating gilbert grape?12:43
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XplOzIonok QUestion: I just formated an hdd (used gparter) and mounted it. but the hdd seems to be blocked or somerhing and i canot create folder or copy on it. why is that?12:44
dazzedXplOzIon: did u make format it into ext2 or 3?12:45
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dazzedXplOzIon: or did u just format it...cuz if u did that its unallocated space...u need to format it into something like ext2or3 which is linux filesystem12:45
XplOzIonext312:45
dazzedXplOzIon: well i use 2 so try 2 lol :/ dunno whatelse to say12:46
XplOzIonlol ok12:46
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XplOzIonlet me try12:46
TuxicityXplOzIon, mounted as read-only??12:46
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XplOzIonhmm well i used sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/data12:47
XplOzIonchmod -R 777 /mnt/data/12:47
Choubaka-_-12:48
Choubakanever chmod -R 777 anything12:48
XplOzIonno? why?12:48
Choubakait'll make everyone able to rm -rf your data.12:48
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TuxicityChoubaka, tell him how to access it 1st12:49
Choubakaanyone with access to your computer that is12:49
XplOzIonnoone uses this pc but me12:49
ChoubakaIt's still a bit stupid. But never mind12:49
Choubakatell -o umask=022 to mount12:50
Choubakathat should work.12:50
XplOzIonok12:50
HiddenWolfCan someone tell me how I can force the order in which my sound devices are loaded?12:50
XplOzIonso if not -R 777 what then?12:50
TuxicityXplOzIon, 75512:50
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Choubakaor 75012:50
dazzeddont 77712:50
dazzeddo like 75012:51
XplOzIonthat way azureus will be able to make folders?12:51
TuxicityXplOzIon, 755 = others can read, not modify12:51
ChoubakaXplOzIon: hmm.12:51
Choubakawhat filesystem is it?12:51
XplOzIonext312:51
dazzedext312:52
Choubakayou could do umask=002 too12:52
Choubakaoh, hmm12:52
Valentin-why is it not possible for me to edit my sources.list?12:52
Choubakathen you don't even need umask.12:52
Choubaka:P12:52
XplOzIon=/12:52
XplOzIonyou confusing me :P12:52
Choubakajust mount it as normal and give it permissions with chmod12:52
Choubaka:P12:52
TuxicityValentin-, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:52
shinuso can anyone help me switch off gdm at startup? :D12:53
XplOzIonwhat kind of? 755? 750?12:53
ChoubakaXplOzIon: who owns the /mnt/data dir?12:53
dazzedshinu: ...why?12:53
XplOzIonshinu, need to set autolog user12:53
XplOzIonme12:53
Choubakayour user?12:53
XplOzIonhmm i think12:53
XplOzIonhow can i check that?12:53
Choubakacheck with ls -ld /dir/name12:53
shinudazzed: cause i want text login? :)12:54
XplOzIonok12:54
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dazzedshinu: good reason lol ... i did it once on accident i couldnt tell you how to do it12:54
AvvY|brbhow do i find a list of all the partitions on my hdd's in ubuntu?12:54
shinuXplOzIon: do you know a command that allows you to manage services that start at different runlevels?12:54
shinudazzed: :)12:54
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dazzedshinu: but u know it does the X-login12:54
dazzednot just text console style12:54
shinudazzed: someone told me yesterday how to do it but i forgot -.-12:54
Choubakashinu: update-rc.d12:54
Choubaka:p12:54
shinuxD12:55
TuxicityAvvY, df12:55
AvvYTuxicity: na, i need to see ones which arent mounted, such as my ntfs partitions and such.12:56
ChoubakaXplOzIon: so?12:56
XplOzIonroot owns it drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2005-04-24 06:37 /mnt/data/12:57
Choubakaok, so it's owned by root, not you.12:57
barneyAvvy: try sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda12:57
barneysudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb if youv'e got another one.12:58
ChoubakaXplOzIon: are there any files in the data dir?12:58
XplOzIonChoubaka, tips on where shoul i mount hdd just for downloads?.. no its empty12:58
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Choubakaok12:58
AvvYbarney: excellent! thanx12:59
ChoubakaXplOzIon: so sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /mnt/data12:59
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Choubakathen the dir will be yours!12:59
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Choubakaalso, you might want to add it in fstab.12:59
AvvYwhat should be the full fstab line for the swap mount point?01:00
XplOzIonChoubaka, yeah i was reading the man, i need to add it01:00
XplOzIonso when i boot its already mounted right?01:00
Choubakayeah01:00
ChoubakaAvvY: /dev/hdXn none swap sw 0 001:01
XplOzIonwhats the fstab file to edit?01:01
HiddenWolfHow do I see the order in which my sound cards load?01:01
ChoubakaXplOzIon: /etc/fstab :)01:01
barney/etc/fstab01:01
XplOzIondamn im such a noob01:02
XplOzIonasking stupid things01:02
topylihrm. dictd startup script is b0rken somehow01:02
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AvvYchoubaka: would this work: /dev/sda6swapnonesw     0    001:02
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barneyi'ts only stupid once you know it. All system-wide config files are normally in /etc/.01:03
black_Nightmareany of you know about laptop video?01:03
AvvY<mount point> = swap? yeah?01:03
XplOzIonbarney, ok thanks01:03
TuxicityAvvY, no Type01:03
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TuxicityAvvY, Mount Point = none01:04
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black_Nightmareor maybe I guess not :p01:04
AvvYthen how will it know it is the swap partition?01:04
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TuxicityAvvY, Type = swap01:05
Turtlewinda dumb question about USB disks:01:05
Tuxicityblack_Nightmare, it sounds like an interesting video :O01:05
TurtlewindI have a USB drive that Linux doesn't detect, although Windows 2k/XP and MacOSX find it automatically01:05
barneyXplOzIon: if you didn't know that, you could type 'locate fstab' to find it.01:05
XplOzIonwhat goes on option dump and pass? in the fstab config?01:05
black_Nightmaretux...well the question is...01:05
AvvYoh ok. and options =sw? what does sw do?01:05
TurtlewindI've been told that I can mount it manually01:05
XplOzIonbarney, thanks i do know about locate :)01:05
Turtlewindbut the MAN files for the mount command are pretty arcane01:05
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black_Nightmarethink a laptop wouldn't mind if a mini-pci graphic card was installed? (if its on whitelist that is)01:05
black_Nightmareseem like a weird question I know but then still...01:06
TuxicityAvvY, no idea. it's like that ;)01:06
Turtlewindso can someone give me a simple summary of how to mount a USB drive that Ubuntu doesn't find on its own?01:06
AvvYTuxicity: lol, not a problem :)01:06
ChoubakaAvvY: no, mountpoint is none01:08
TuxicityTurtlewind, not sure at all, but i'll try...01:08
AvvYChoubaka: yeah, i got it sorted. thanx :)01:08
Turtlewind(to make matters more complicated, I'm at work at the moment and so don't have my PC in front of me, but I can mail the logs of this to myself)01:08
TuxicityTurtlewind, goto System --> System --> Device Manager01:08
TuxicityTurtlewind, find your HDD in the list of devices on the left01:09
TuxicityTurtlewind, click on it01:09
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TuxicityTurtlewind, in the right pane, select the Advanced tab01:09
Turtlewindyep, I'm following you so far01:09
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TuxicityTurtlewind, check what block device it is e.g. /dev/hda01:10
TuxicityTurtlewind, BTW I am not familiar with USB drives, so im just guessing... but it might work01:10
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AvvYwhat terminal command do i need to edit GRUB?01:10
TuxicityTurtlewind, ok now you know it's called /dev/hda or something01:11
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TuxicityTurtlewind, open the terminal (console) and type this...01:11
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kellemelle#ubuntu-nl01:12
kakakeke_salu01:12
kakakeke_tt le01:12
TuxicityTurtlewind, sudo mkdir /media/my_usb_drive01:12
kakakeke_monde01:12
Tuxicitykakakeke_, salut01:13
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kakakeke_bien ou koi ??01:13
kellemelle#ubuntu-nl01:13
onnoHello, I got a small problem... Apache always asks after phtml... What should I change to the apache conf to accept Php01:13
Turtlewindtuxicity: yep, I'm still following you01:13
TuxicityTurtlewind, sudo mount -t usbfs /dev/hda /media/my_usb_drive01:14
kakakeke_do you speak french01:14
XplOzIonwhats gkrell for?01:15
kakakeke_anno01:15
kakakeke_??01:15
Tuxicitykakakeke_, I do01:15
kakakeke_yes01:15
TuxicityXplOzIon, giving system stats like temperature, etc01:15
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XplOzIonTuxicity, is it on the repos?01:15
Tuxicitykakakeke_, bonjour :)01:15
xorgI'm trying to play streaming audio using mplayer I get error message ":[AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"  what can I do to solve it?01:15
TuxicityXplOzIon, ya i think01:15
kakakeke_bonjour01:15
kakakeke_;-)01:15
TurtlewindTuxicity - thanks a lot!01:16
TuxicityTurtlewind, as ive said, never tested myself,01:16
kakakeke_il  parti01:16
kakakeke_anno01:16
kakakeke_c dommage01:16
Tuxicitykakakeke_, hein qui?01:16
TuxicityTurtlewind, so 1)find out how the device is called01:17
TuxicityTurtlewind, and 2) mount it - the type is usbfs01:17
TuxicityTurtlewind, and you're welcome, friend :)01:17
xorgI'm trying to play streaming audio using mplayer I get error message ":[AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"  what can I do to solve it?01:17
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Plexyshi, does anyone know a program that allows file access to my ubuntu system through a browser?01:18
kakakeke_plexys fo parler francais01:19
xorgPlexys: nautilus?01:19
kakakeke_sinon on compren rien01:19
locomortoPlexys: Look a FreeNX i think01:19
Plexyssorry, i meant remote access heh01:19
locomortoor SSH01:19
Tuxicitykakakeke_, en fait ce canal est anglais01:19
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kakakeke_a oui*01:19
kakakeke_je me sui tromp01:20
kakakeke_c vrai01:20
Tuxicitykakakeke_, voir #ubuntu-fr01:20
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kakakeke_wai01:20
kakakeke_jy sui01:20
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infieAnyone know how to set up a dual-head thingummy with the two screens distinct virtual screens01:20
freskoi've got a problem01:20
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infierather than one big wide screen?01:20
freskoi need to know how to boot a windowsxp partition in grub01:21
Jimmothywhat's the name of a ubuntu cd burning program that's installed straight off?01:21
Tuxicityinfie, ATI / nvidia?01:21
infiein this case matrox01:21
freskobecause i introduce it in menu.lst01:21
Tuxicityinfie, :X01:21
infiebut I would have though the card wouldn't have mattered01:21
freskobut i can boot it up01:21
infie:X?01:21
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freskobut i can't boot it up01:22
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XplOzIoni cant find out how to set a sound theme :(01:22
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Tuxicityinfie, dont know nothing about matrox, sry01:22
topyliJimmothy: the one embedded in nautilus01:23
Tuxicityinfie, xinerama, i think01:23
infieto set up as one wide virtual screen, I fiddled with xorg.conf rather than with drivers01:23
infieI'm using xinerama01:23
infieand it works fine01:23
infiejust trying to have a screen bound to a virtual desktop01:23
infierather than both bound to one wide virtual desktop01:23
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shinuA01:24
shinuwhat program lets me manage my services at startup?01:24
topylishinu: update-rc.d01:24
shinutopyli: any other one? :D01:24
topylishinu: or sysv-rc-conf for a more interactive approach01:25
kellemelle#ubuntu-de01:25
xorgshinu: rcconf01:25
shinutopyli: i dont have that command. did i have to apt-get something?01:26
shinuxorg: i dont have that either :(01:26
Jimmothytopyli: how?01:26
Tuxicityinfie, you could use "xorgconfig" to help you, but backup your xorg.conf before01:26
topylishinu: yes. sysv-rc-conf :)01:26
xorgsudo apt-get install rcconf01:27
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shinuYES!01:27
topyliJimmothy: open file manager, choose cd-creator from the Places menu. drag your files there and burn away01:27
shinutopyli: thanks a lot! thats the one ive been looking for! youre a god!!! :D01:27
shinuxorg: thanks :) ill check rcconf as well01:28
topyliJimmothy: that's data only01:28
Plexysanyone have experience with installing webmin?01:28
Jimmothyhow about audio?01:28
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topylishinu: no problem. deity status seems to come easy these days :)01:28
TuxicityJimmothy, install GnomeBaker01:29
topyliJimmothy: then you need a more capable burner. gnometoaster or graveman perhaps01:29
shinutopyli: :)01:29
topyliJimmothy: gnomebaker like Tuxicity says01:29
Jimmothyi installed gnomabaker and it hangs on start up01:29
TuxicityJimmothy, see installation instuctions on ubuntuguide.org01:30
Jimmothyok01:30
xorghello I've been trying to play an mp3 file using mplayer I get this error: "[AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" no audio output? what should I do?01:30
ilucivwhat resolution settings are good for average tv??01:30
shinuthanks again for the help, bye :D01:32
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ilucivI've got display working (ontv but its huge and black and white01:32
Jimmothyeverytime i try open gnomebaker i get "application has quit unexpectedly"01:33
Turtlewindiluciv - black and white could be because you have it set to NTSC when you have a PAL TV (or vice versa)01:33
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HiddenWolfIs there someone here who knows a lot about thunderbird?01:34
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topyliJimmothy: i've had that too in the past but works on this box. no idea what fails, it only affects a selected elite group of people :)01:34
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Jimmothyodd01:35
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xorgIs Ubuntu known for sound card problems I keep getting this playing audio:  [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp01:35
topyliJimmothy: graveman might work better for you. the gnomebaker problem is old and AFAIK unsolved01:35
Jimmothyinstalled graveman, and seems to be working ok so far01:35
Jimmothygah, i get an error as i click write01:37
markumanare there any other Font packages besides the larabie fonts ???01:37
Jimmothysomething involving null01:37
topylixorg: sounds more like a busy device01:37
xorgyes possibly01:37
topyliJimmothy: hrm.01:37
GoonieCan ubuntu update drivers automatically?01:37
Kamping_Kaisergoonie. linux doesnt have drivers as such01:38
Kamping_Kaiserit has kernel modules01:38
xorgI've tried disabling alsa daemon01:38
topyliKamping_Kaiser: sure it does. some modules are drivers, some are not01:38
topylixorg: try killing esd first if it's running01:39
xorgok01:39
xorgjust top -> kill pid?01:39
topyliyes, or killall esd01:39
GoonieKamping_Kaiser~ yes well.. you know what I mean.. the ipw2200 "driver" that got installed by default in hoary is 0.19 and it's known to be bugged... I don't know how to completely uninstall it and compile the 1.03 version01:39
xorgthanks01:39
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topyliJimmothy: next candidate is the distinguished xcdroast. never fails if your system can burn cds at all01:41
xorgtopyli: that worked brilliant01:42
topylixorg: do you want to use esd?01:42
xorghow do I stop esd starting in the first place01:42
topylixorg: system -> preferences -> sound. untick the daemon thingy01:43
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Gooniecan anyone tell me how to uninstall ipw2200 completely?01:43
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xorgi'll try that01:43
topylixorg: then go to "multimedia systems selector" and change the gnome apps to use alsa instead of esd01:44
barneyAny ideas why an internal Intel536EP modem is not responding, after bulding & installing the driver?01:44
xorggreat thanks topyli01:44
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Tuxicitybarney, random ideas: conflicting drivers; module not loaded in proper order; out of ideas sry :>01:45
topylixorg: but now you don't hear system sounds while listening to something else01:46
topylilike mail or chat notifications01:46
Tuxicitytopyli, if he is not using ESD, is he using ALSA then? or OSS?01:46
xorgyes01:47
barneyTuxicity: Do you think it could confilct with the nvidia driver? Should I move the intel lien up in modules.conf?01:47
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larsrohdinhi, im having troubles watching fullscreen in ogle...does someone know anything about that?01:47
topyliTuxicity: it's a choice to make. i'd go for alsa, it's the 21th century :)01:47
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xorgI think alsa & esd where started by default01:47
ilucivTurtlewind: I seem to have iut set to the right setting in xorg.conf "PAL-B" any other ideas and why is the picture so dam mlarge01:47
black_Nightmareany of you know if its possible to manually set the mobile cpu speed in a P3/700?01:47
topyliTuxicity: ubuntu uses oss through an alsa layer anyway01:47
black_Nightmareits for an ibm T20 laptop01:48
Tuxicitytopyli, oh it was a question, not a comment. can ALSA do audio mixing(i think it is the right term)?01:48
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topyliTuxicity: dunno, it's being worked on but don't know the status01:48
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xorgthanks chaps you guys rock & Ubuntu is brilliant01:49
topyliTuxicity: would be nice, we could get rid of daemons01:49
Tuxicitytopyli, well, i mean playing more than 1 sound at once?01:49
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topyliexactly01:49
Tuxicitytopyli, oh got it now01:50
topylii think it still relies on harware these days, ie my sb128 won't do that01:50
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topyliTuxicity: so we have these darn daemons, each worse than the other01:51
mishofQ: how am i supposed to open a chm file ? :O01:51
Tuxicitytopyli, my card has full-duplex...01:51
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topyliTuxicity: then you might get lucky01:52
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Turtlewindiluciv - Google tells me that the PAL resolution is 720 x 486. Perhaps you need to change your desktop resolution to match that?01:53
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Turtlewind(that's just a guess; I've never connected a linux box to a TV before)01:53
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xiaogilhotplug doesn't work at the boot, it stops the boot process, i have to type Ctrl+C to keep on booting, and then the internet doesn't work, what should i do to solve this problem ?01:53
Turtlewindoh, except with Geexbox, but that's already set up for it01:53
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Tuxicitymishof, xchm01:54
topylimishof: nobody knows what sort of file that is. filenames don't necessarily tell much on linux01:55
Tuxicitymishof, though it sounds like a Micro$oft Compiled Help file01:55
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mishofon google it says compiled html01:56
Tuxicitymishof, which you can view with xchm01:56
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mishofyeah i try it right now01:56
poningruwhat is the bonobo-activation-server?01:56
rejserAnyone that can do some kernel install support (not custom kernel, just apt-get install)01:56
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mishofTuxicity, thanks it works :-)01:57
Tuxicitymishof, thank the author of xchm ;)01:57
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drcodedhi all01:58
drcodedI need some littel help with shorewall01:59
Tuxicitydrcoded, hey01:59
drcodedI have setup iu01:59
drcodediy01:59
drcodedit , and read theree manual01:59
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drcodedI can ping from computer B into linux computer A01:59
drcodedand I also did the NAT option in shorewall.conf01:59
drcodedbut still I cant get into the internet from computer B02:00
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infielanyone know how to switch between displays on a dual head setup?02:02
infielnon-ximerama02:02
XplOzIoncan someone help me installing an bmp plugin called docklet?02:03
XplOzIondamn mp3 sounds soooooo much better in linux!02:03
infielsound is sound xpl0zIon02:03
infielsounds the same wherever02:03
XplOzIonnaw02:04
AvvYmp3 is shite, u should use ogg vorbis02:04
Tuxicityinfiel, no no nooo!02:04
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XplOzIon:P02:04
XplOzIonhe know im right02:04
hungerIs there something like debian/sid in ubuntu? How can I switch to that?02:04
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mjrinfiel, umm, even with non-xinerama dual head X setups you should be able to just move the cursor from a screen to another02:04
mjrhunger, it's currently breezy; in the usual way02:05
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XplOzIonso can anyone help me to install that plugin?02:05
topyliinfiel: everything feels better in linux, be it sound or whatever :)02:05
Turtlewindmp3 is shite, u should use ogg vorbis  <-- when my MP3 player starts being able to play Ogg, I will start ripping my CDs in that format02:05
Turtlewindbefore that, it's MP3 all the way02:05
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hungermjr: Ah! That was dead the last time I tried. Thanks!02:05
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AvvYTurtlewind: thats why u dont buy a iPod, and u go for an iriver player which can play ogg vorbis ;)02:05
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TuxicityXplOzIon, check BMP website for installing plugins02:06
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infielI don't want a iPod for the reason that I keep my music collection in ogg format02:06
ulisseI'm here again, I have a problem installing a second LAN card on my PC02:06
infielthe backups of my music cds02:06
XplOzIonTuxicity, i am.. but im kinda confused02:06
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ulissewhen I put in the card, I am unable to connect neither to the router nor to the LAN02:07
hungerYahoo! gcc 4 in breezy:-)02:07
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ulissewith ifup --verbose eth0 I get something like: "pump -i eth0" and then "failed"02:08
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ulisseeth0 is connected to the router with DHCP, eth1 to the lan wint a fixed IP02:09
XplOzIonstupid german!.. gotta call my dad to translate lol!02:09
infielhunger: its all about tcc :)02:09
Kamping_Kaiserer?02:09
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hungerinfiel: tcc?02:10
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St0n3-C0lhm...02:12
St0n3-C0lwho prefers Slackware over Archlinux ;)02:12
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topylislackers do02:13
AvvYlol02:14
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St0n3-C0lArchlinux system is like debian02:14
St0n3-C0leh02:14
topyliexactly, and not much like slack :)02:14
larsrohdinwhat is the best program for playing dvd:s? both discs and .iso files...02:14
St0n3-C0lslack is stable ;)02:15
St0n3-C0leh02:15
St0n3-C0l:>02:15
St0n3-C0lSlackware beats archlinux here ?02:16
tck_yeah but wheres the 64bit support02:16
St0n3-C0lask Patrick02:16
St0n3-C0l:P02:16
larsrohdinwhat is the best program for playing dvd:s? both discs and .iso files... anyone?02:16
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St0n3-C0li don't have dvd-rom02:16
St0n3-C0l;p02:16
larsrohdinaawww02:17
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Tuxicitylarsrohdin, maybe xine?02:17
St0n3-C0lgetting angry for ?02:17
larsrohdinTuxicity, it didnt have support for dvd-iso it said... ive tried totem-xine and it worked but it was laggy02:18
XplOzIondamn plugin and my noobish skill! cant install it (talking about docklet plugin for bmp)02:18
gdshi everybody02:18
XplOzIonhi02:19
TuxicityXplOzIon, cant you just put it in some /plugin folder?02:19
larsrohdinTuxicity, the best ive used was Ogle, but for some reason it wont show fullscreen anymore... do you know anything about that?02:19
St0n3-C0ltopyli: I wanna install slackware and archlinux..confused :p02:19
XplOzIonTuxicity, im on it02:19
XplOzIonTuxicity, if i do tar -xxxx filename.tar /folder/folder it will extrack files to that folder??02:20
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TuxicityXplOzIon, tar -xvvzf02:22
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TuxicityXplOzIon, if it's tar.gz02:22
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JefisHow to transfer files via ssh ?02:22
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, edit usr/share/ogle/oglerc02:23
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, edit /usr/share/ogle/oglerc02:23
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larsrohdinTuxicity, ok ill try...02:23
XplOzIonTuxicity, its a tar.bz202:23
RiddellJefis: sco myfile myuser@mybox.example:02:23
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Jefisthis for uploading/downloading?02:24
Jefis:)02:24
larsrohdinTuxicity, edit how? what line?=)02:24
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, find <fullscreen>no</fullscreen>02:24
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, change to yes02:24
larsrohdinyeah, but thats the same as pressing "F"... the window gets big but the movie is still small...02:24
nydustis there any alternatives to adobe illustrator?02:25
topyliSt0n3-C0l: one system is quite enough. you don't gain much by supporting two systems, just extra work02:26
XplOzIonlarsrohdin, heh i got same problem as you using mplayer. i coulndt fix it02:26
larsrohdinTuxicity, i had the same problem in mplayer but then i added zoom_yes to the config file...02:27
larsrohdinXplOzIon, =) try that02:27
TuxicityXplOzIon, tar -xvvjf02:27
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topyliJefis: scp is the command actuallly, not sco. it works both ways02:27
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St0n3-C0ltopyli: I know...but I'm confused in Archlinux's package management system and Slackware's stability02:27
St0n3-C0li've used Slackware before...02:28
St0n3-C0l9.1 and 10.002:28
topyliSt0n3-C0l: install debian or ubuntu if you want apt02:28
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St0n3-C0llol02:28
St0n3-C0lhaha02:28
St0n3-C0lhahaha02:28
Jefiscan somebody help me, with connecting mobile to my box (siemens cx65 via USB data cable)02:28
St0n3-C0ltopyli: I use ubuntu :P02:28
St0n3-C0lmy dear...thats why I'm here02:29
St0n3-C0lhaha02:29
topyliisn't arch a downgrade then?02:29
XplOzIonTuxicity, can you tell me the cmd to change the owner of a user again please? im writing everything from now on :P02:29
St0n3-C0ltopyli: really ??02:30
gdsHow can I find a channel where they speak in english?02:30
topylion irc? theres no such channel02:30
larsrohdingds, we speak english...02:30
gdstopyli, yes, I want to learn english02:31
Jimmothyhaha02:31
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TuxicityXplOzIon, sudo chown -R username:username /dir/file02:31
HiddenWolfIs there a support channel for thunderbird somewhere?02:31
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gdsJimmothy, ahahah02:31
XplOzIonTuxicity, thank you!02:31
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gdslarsrohdin, you always speak about linux here02:32
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Jefiscan somebody help me, with connecting mobile to my box (siemens cx65 via USB data cable)02:33
topyligds: here you'll learn a non-language that resembles english sometimes, and the rest is unix system calls :)02:33
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gdstopyli, you're right :-) Can you suggest me some channel?02:34
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nydusthow can i open psd files in linux?02:35
topyliSt0n3-C0l: hey, apparently arch is not a debian thingy after all02:35
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scizzonydust: isn't that photoshop format?02:36
larsrohdingds, yeah, its a ubuntu-channel...02:36
scizzonydust: in that case GIMP has support to open them02:36
nydustscizzo, not my gimp02:36
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gdslarsrohdin, off course... :-)02:36
DelphHiddenWolf: check the mozilla site, they probably have an ircd somewhere.02:37
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scizzonydust: you need to get the non-free one02:37
scizzonydust: because it is a format that is not open source an stuff like that02:37
nydustscizzo, non free gimp?02:37
scizzoyes02:37
scizzonydust: or the lib for it02:38
admxreally02:38
topyligds: i don't know. i'm only on tech channels really. some general discussion channels may mind their language more. but on irc, the official language is bad english really02:38
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scizzonydust: did you compile GIMP?02:38
smouchealso known as "bad English".02:38
nydustscizzo, no use that one that came with ubuntu02:38
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scizzonydust: then look for the one in universe02:39
scizzonydust: or multiverse02:39
gdsok topyli , thank you02:40
nydustscizzo, WHERE???02:40
scizzonydust: in synaptic02:41
nydustaha02:41
admxI'm using Gnome's  netapplet to monitor wireless networks. Does anyone use a better app to do this? Tried but failed to get NetworkMonitor to work with Ubuntu 5.0402:41
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scizzonydust: remember that PSD is hard to support02:42
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scizzonydust: CMYK stuff might not work and so on02:43
markumanwhere are the packages whitch i installed with syaptic?02:43
markuman/usr/share/...???02:43
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scizzonydust: and if you really want to edit PSD files it is hard depending on how it is build up02:43
scizzonydust: and also remember that PS != GIMP02:43
nydustscizzo, oki, i just need to open a file, and look at it.. Its strane cause a opensource project has the install manual on a psd file02:43
scizzonydust: look for a library that is called libpsd or something then02:44
nydustthanks02:44
Harpihi everybody...i have a small matter... when i boot my computer it at a step over 2/3 times... i have written the steps which are "-Cleaning up ifupdown -calculating module dependencies -loading modules" and then it is freezed, i can't do anything just reboot ... do u have any idea ?02:44
scizzoif you want gif support in GIMP as a good example then I think you need non-free of GIMP02:45
admxDoes anyone know if there are any good books dealing with Ubuntu?02:45
Jefiscan somebody help me, with connecting mobile to my box (siemens cx65 via USB data cable)02:45
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LinuxJonesadmx, a recent Debian book should be ok for most stuff02:46
LinuxJonesadmx, I don't know of any Ubuntu books atm02:46
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DXTadmx: ever tried man-pages? :-)02:47
Harpinobody has already seen my prob02:47
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, hey02:47
topyliadmx install the debian documentation packages with synaptic. debian-reference and apt-howto at least02:48
admxLinuxJones do you know any good titles. Yes I use Man pages02:48
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KinseiI just accidentally killed grub and man it's a pain to put back (I gave up)02:48
scizzoadmx: I think you can follow a lot of the Debian books to handle ubuntu02:48
admxthanks topyli I will give them a look02:48
nydustOne more problem, I have installed mysql-client and mysql-server with apache2 modules ect.. But my mamboserver install says that i dosent have mysql support.. What can the problem bee?02:48
nydustbe02:48
LinuxJonesadmx, I think there is a new Debian Bible but I'm not sure how old it is02:48
admxcool02:48
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scizzonydust: sounds like a missing lib you need....I don't think the headers are comming with those packages...02:49
admxI'll also head to the book store to look for it02:49
topylii think it deals with upgrading potato to woody with the new "apt" system :)02:49
Harpiwell...02:50
LinuxJonesadmx, Debian Bible is excellent I had a very old copy a few years back :)02:50
scizzonydust: the headers are often placed in the libprogram-dev packages02:50
larsrohdinTuxicity, hey?02:50
nydustscizzo, thanks02:50
scizzonydust: it could also be the mysql-common package02:51
admxI'll check Boarders and B&N02:51
nydustscizzo, common package is installed, so i will try to install the dev package02:51
alexhi all02:51
LinuxJonesadmx, it should be easy to buy online as well02:51
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admxtrue02:51
LinuxJonesalex, hiya02:52
Harpinobody have any idea...??02:52
rejseranyone that have an idea why I can't apt-get install linux-k7 (it ends with error, and if I reboot I get Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0),  mkinitrd can't make initrd.img02:52
scizzonydust: it sounds like a missing package anyway...02:52
alexhi LinuxHones02:52
alexhi LinuxJones02:53
LinuxJones:)02:53
larsrohdinTuxicity, hey what?02:53
Kinseiif I install a new kernel, will it also put itself in the grub menu?02:54
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ilucivis nvtv a module???02:55
nydustI want too thank you all... UBUNTU community rocks. And i have gone from windows to ubuntu and has been using it for 4 weeks now, and i will not look back.02:55
theD3viLi installed kernel-image and headers, now what ?02:55
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St0n3-C0lnydust: Thankyou :>02:56
alexwow, nydust, i did move 3 weeks ago, it's cool, isn't it?02:57
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rejserKinsei: if everything goes alright it will02:57
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jazzkais it possible to use a gdesklet to see if a gmail acount has new mail?02:57
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Kinseirejser: I had to uninstall grub and install lilo to get my machine to boot, but now I'd like to fix it properly back to how it was.02:58
St0n3-C0lit is02:58
St0n3-C0l:P02:58
St0n3-C0lget gdesklets-data02:58
St0n3-C0lor http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org02:58
jazzkaSt0n3-C0l, ok, but which gdesklet?02:58
rejserKinsei: install grub aagain?02:59
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nydustalex, yeah... I use this lap top. As an office computer at my office, so i will soon switch all the computers to ubuntu. Thats 25 clients, then we are windows free.02:59
KinseiI can install it, and run update-grub and grub-install02:59
nydustand we will save alot of money..02:59
larsrohdinnydust, Nice;)02:59
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Tuxicitylarsrohdin, hey please type "xvinfo | grep adaptors" in terminal02:59
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Kinseiwhen I boot I just get an error about the kernel file being not found03:00
Kinseililo however works03:00
nydustI was so tierd of virus, and i use tre - four ahou03:00
larsrohdinTuxicity, no adaptors present03:00
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Tuxicitylarsrohdin, OH OH03:00
nydustahours every week on removing virus on the clients03:00
larsrohdinTuxicity, sounds bad=)03:00
rejserKinsei: how do /boot/grub/menu.lst look?03:00
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, that's why Ogle does not fullscreen03:00
nydustjust that are 450$ saved per week ;)03:01
larsrohdinok... so what do i do...03:01
Kinseirejser: it's never changed since I installed03:01
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Tuxicitylarsrohdin, video card? nvidia or ati?03:01
larsrohdinati03:01
alexnydust, i own 2 computers, i only changed my laptop to ubuntu03:01
nydustthats alot of beer03:01
nydustnice03:01
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Tuxicitylarsrohdin, did you install the binary driver (fglrx) ?03:01
larsrohdinyes03:01
rejserKinsei: have you looked if it seems alright?03:01
engieHi. I've installed gnome-phone-manager. What pin do I enter on my phone when I connect to it with my PC?03:01
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, hmm 3d accel works?03:02
larsrohdinTuxicity, how do i know that?03:02
Kinseiit looks fine to me, but it's a fairly confusing file03:02
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nydustscizzo, i use mysql 4.1 do you thing i shuld try 4.0?03:02
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, type in terminal "glxinfo | grep direct"03:03
larsrohdindirect rendering: Yes03:03
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Tuxicitylarsrohdin, that's fine03:03
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nydustnydust = new idiot on norwegian ;)03:04
nydustups wrong channel03:04
nydust;)03:04
Kamping_Kaiser;)03:04
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nydustIts just one thing i really miss on linux. And its a CRM program..03:05
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St0n3-C0lCRM ?03:05
nydustwww.superoffice.com03:05
larsrohdinTuxicity, so... whats next?03:05
nydustSt0n3-C0l, look at thet link03:06
membreyawith the man-db in cron.daily, do I need to worry about dangling symlink messages?03:06
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nydustSt0n3-C0l, Customor releasionship manager03:06
nydustSt0n3-C0l, its a neat software to keep track on you costumers...03:07
St0n3-C0lhm..03:07
St0n3-C0lwhat type of relationship :P03:07
nydustSt0n3-C0l, pure biz ;)03:08
nydustSt0n3-C0l, you can use it too keep trach on your dates too03:08
nydust;)03:08
St0n3-C0llol03:08
membreyamy GOD that's poor english nydust03:09
nydustbut i think the good old blackbook do the jobb03:09
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, confusion, lol03:09
larsrohdinlol... yeah i usually cause that...03:09
nydustmembreya, sorry03:09
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, im searching for the solution...03:09
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nydustSt0n3-C0l, you can use it to keep track on your date's to03:10
nydustmembreya, betther?03:11
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cuscohi03:11
bet0xHello all :d03:11
cuscois there any wma to ogg/mp3/wav converter?03:11
bet0xwaza dudesssssss03:11
cuscoplease03:11
membreyabet0x: ...any relation to botox?03:11
cuscohi bet0x03:11
bet0xno03:11
bet0xIm "AlberT" or "Alberto"03:12
cuscoAlberto is a common name here in Portugal03:12
bet0xim from Argentina03:12
bet0x:)03:12
Tuxicitycusco, transcode03:13
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Tuxicitycusco, it's mostly for video, maybe it does wma...?03:13
bet0xmy name its a "Real name"03:15
bet0xim noble03:15
bet0x:p03:15
Tuxicitycusco, my mistake, transcode is for audio and video03:15
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membreyacusco: http://www.linux.com/howtos/MP3-CD-Burning/audio.shtml03:16
gurufflool; can anyone help me with setting up services that are startet at boot ?03:17
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ilucivmembreya: know much about nvtv??03:17
membreyanone03:17
membreyai dont use it03:17
ilucivdamm03:17
Airohmm, is there a ppc specific ubuntu channel?03:17
membreyai just use twinview03:17
membreyalike a real man03:17
smouchecuzco -- here's a "free GPL'd" program that claims ability to reencode mp3/ogg/wma to mp3/ogg:03:17
smouchehttp://www.mbox.wz.cz/03:18
ilucivmeh03:18
smoucheI haven't tried it though03:18
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ilucivI got it working sorta just black and white display that to big for the tv03:19
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membreyaunflex then little man :P03:19
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smoucheoops sorry cusco, I mispelled your nick -- look at this page:  http://www.mbox.wz.cz/03:20
Tuxicitycusco, sudo apt-get install gtranscode03:20
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membreyawhy not just use the link I provided, it lets you do it all from the command line03:21
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Bhodi'afternoon03:22
Tuxicitymembreya, transcode is command-line, gtranscode graphical03:22
smouchewow, membreya, didn't know mplayer could do conversion... cool03:23
membreyanow I just have to install it to test it :P03:23
ilucivLOL03:23
Bhodidoes anyone have tips on getting sound to work with a soundblaster live card?03:24
ilucivsorry was away03:24
mjrBhodi, should work out of the box03:24
mjrBhodi, if you have an onboard sound in addition, it might be used by default03:24
Bhodimjr: I thought so to but it doesn't :(03:24
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Bhodimjr: i do have onboard sound but i can't find a place to select the one i want03:25
membreyajust did the test, it converts perfectly :)03:25
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guruffanyone has an idea about what services are critically needed for ubuntu; like if i have a low profile machine do i need lvm or evms <- and what are those ?03:26
Kinseilvm is logical volume manager and I'm fairly sure you don't need it03:27
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membreyaBhodi: you need to disable the onboard sound in your BIOS03:27
guruffKinsei; what about evms ?03:27
Kinseino idea03:27
Bhodimembreya: can give that a try, thnx03:27
john__What does it mean: /dev/hdb1 has been mounted 30 times without being checked.03:28
membreyajohn_: it means that you've rebooted 30 times03:28
smouchemembreya, which does, the  command line or gtranscode?03:28
membreyaand it needs to fsck it03:28
membreyasmouche: the command line03:28
membreyawith mplayer03:28
membreyait creates a file called audiodump.wav03:28
smouchegood.  nice to put mplayer to good use, thanks03:28
john__okay. How can I check it?03:28
membreyabear in mind, you can't convert a file that has spaces :P03:28
membreyajohn_: what do you mean how can you check? your system tells you :P03:29
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john__It doesen't matter. It checks it by itself anyway.03:29
davixif i manually installed a program, how can i make a link for it in the gdm <applications -> other> menu?03:29
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Bhodimembreya: disabling onboard in bios did the trick, thnx!03:33
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membreyaBhodi: np..it's a known problem with SB and onboard :)03:35
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larsrohdinTuxicity, found anything yet?03:38
stephen_HI. I'm running hoary on a nforce2 based athlon system with a geforce 6600 gt board. Every so often (couple of hours or so I guess) X completely locks up03:38
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stephen_I can SSH in and I see that the xorg log sais AUDIT: Sun Apr 24 14:11:28 2005: 6254 X: client 38 rejected from local host. What could cause this?03:39
stephen_My puter is unusable, I have to hit the power button to shut it down. CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE doesn't work.03:39
membreyastephen_: can you still move the mouse?03:39
stephen_membreya: Yes03:40
stephen_Everything redraws underneath it fine03:40
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membreyastephen_: disabled renderaccel in your xorg.conf03:40
membreyahttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=718303:40
stephen_Is it better to run the nvidia drivers?03:40
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, somehow related to fglrx, xv... vague, i know03:40
larsrohdinhmmm...03:41
Kinseithat also happens to me; it's extremely infuriating03:41
Kinseibut it seems to have stopped now that I added a certain line to xorg.conf03:41
membreyastephen_: doesn't make a different really03:41
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Kinsei        Option          "NvAgp" "1"03:41
Kinseiin the Device section03:41
Kinseifyi disabling renderaccel didn't solve it for me03:42
membreyaKinsei: that just tells xorg to use nvagp03:42
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Toinouhey salut :)03:42
membreyarenderaccel fixed it for me03:42
stephen_will try renderaccel03:42
stephen_Thanks03:42
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, i am installing fglrx on my box right now. i'll be back in a few moments03:42
ToinouPetite question : J'ai XP sur mon PC et je voudrais avoir un linux dans les heures qui viennent, quelles tapes de dois suivre ?03:42
stephen_(Am running standard ubuntu drivers btw)03:42
larsrohdinok, thanks for taking time...03:42
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Kinseistephen_: check dmesg for a line about nvagp when the problem happens03:42
TuxicityToinou, #ubuntu-fr03:43
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trygvebwHi, which package is dh_make in?03:43
geewzheya, can anyone help this NooB with gpg key stuff/03:43
geewz?03:43
membreyastephen_: are you running nvidia or nv03:43
stephen_membreya: nv03:43
Toinoutks Tuxicity03:43
membreyahmmmmm v.odd03:43
TuxicityToinou, de rien03:43
stephen_membreya: Does nv do accelerated rendering?03:44
membreyanot well.03:44
stephen_I'll try the nvidia drivers03:44
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patochyah03:45
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patochdo u speack english or french ?03:46
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larsrohdin english here03:46
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patochoki thanks03:46
b0olhey03:46
niklsI had problem to start ubuntu today due to "hotplug subsystem" load, I think, do someone also had this problem?03:46
patochwhere is the chan to french ?03:46
patochdon't exist03:47
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patochexcuz me for my english03:47
b0oldamn03:47
b0oli cant install mplayer :/03:47
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maltehi, i'm running ubuntu as a server and apache 2 on it. it seems to get restarted every once in a while, why might that be?03:47
b0oli always get errormsgs03:47
b0ol:/03:47
malteapache gets restarted, not ubuntu :)03:47
b0olmplayer-386:03:48
b0ol Hngt ab: libavcodeccvs aber es wird nicht installiert03:48
b0ol  Hngt ab: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) aber 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 wird installiert03:48
b0ol  Hngt ab: libfontconfig1 (>=2.3.0) aber 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 wird installiert03:48
b0ol Hngt ab: libpostproc0 aber es wird nicht installiert03:48
b0ol  Hngt ab: libvorbis0a (>=1.1.0) aber 1.0.1-1 wird installiert03:48
b0ol  Hngt ab: xmms (>=1.2.10+cvs2003:48
niklsbOol: I also got this error03:48
maltethe thing is it's quite annoying, because i need to manually enter a password for ssl every time apache restarts03:48
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larsrohdinpatoch, no problem... most persons in here understand bad english too=) I'm not english either...03:48
niklscancel nerim from source.lst then it will work03:48
niklsyou can put it back after if you want03:49
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b0olnerim?03:49
b0olcomplete name03:49
b0ol?03:49
niklsin /etc/apt/sources.list03:51
niklsdid you found it?03:52
topylib0ol:03:52
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topyligrep nerim.net /etc/apt/sources.list03:52
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topylishould be commented03:53
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topyli# deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main03:53
b0olgot it already :)03:53
b0olthn03:53
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niklsdo someone had problem on boot with "hotplug subsystem"?03:53
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Kamping_Kaisernikls some ppl have03:53
geewztopyli, what's wrong with Marillat??03:53
niklsKamping_Kaiser: how did you fixed it?03:54
toffyhow do I mount a nfts with  char?03:54
topyligeewz: nothing. probably his unstable is out of sync with hoary, there are dependency problems03:54
Kamping_Kaisernikls dont know sorry, just remember someone else having the probloem03:55
topylisome packages will work, others won't03:55
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niklsKamping_Kaiser: no need to apologyze03:55
Kamping_Kaiser:/ i should remember03:55
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bet0xErr http://backports.ubuntuforums.org hoary-backports/main Packages03:56
bet0x  500 Internal Server Error03:56
geewztopyli, I'm not happy that Marillat is mentioned in Ubuntu guide ... and backport's is still not working for me ...03:56
bet0xits down backports?03:56
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geewzbetox beat me to it!03:56
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niklsi tryied "/etc/ini.d/hotplug start" but with the same result03:56
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topyligeewz: his packages are good, but they shouldn't be advertised for ubuntu03:57
bet0xgeewz, ?03:57
bet0xgeewz, what u say?03:57
ermotoffy, danish?03:57
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toffyermo, yes or norwegian03:57
toffy:)03:57
ermotoffy, hrrm, I meant 'do you speak danish'?03:58
toffyermo, I mount my windows ntfs but i cant find files with  in it03:58
toffyermo, ja03:58
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ermotoffy, I'll /query you03:58
geewzbet0x, you mentioned the backports problem before me03:59
Kamping_Kaisertoffy, whats the line you mounted with say?03:59
bet0xgeewz, :D03:59
bet0xgeewz, down aparently03:59
larsrohdintoffy, hey then we're practically neighbors! im swedish=)03:59
toffyKamping_Kaiser, ehh what do you meen?03:59
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bet0xWe are in the process of moving to a FreeBSD server. There may be a temporary outage.04:00
bet0xGetting 403 Forbidden Errors? You must be using the old ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net repository. Please update with http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports04:00
toffylarsrohdin, hi then04:00
Kamping_Kaisertoffy, did you mount from the command line or from fstab?04:00
geewzbet0x, down for a few days, not quite satisfactory ...04:00
toffyKamping_Kaiser, I have tryed both04:00
larsrohdintoffy, hi04:00
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Kamping_Kaiserwhats the line in your fstab say? can you put it here?04:00
toffyKamping_Kaiser, but I cant find files that have  in it04:00
Kamping_Kaiseryes, so what does your fstab say? its probably what you have there04:01
toffyKamping_Kaiser, its the line from ubuntugudes04:01
Xappetoffy add a nls=utf8 to the mount options04:01
TechLord_WorkKamping_kaiser i switched from kubuntu to ubuntu last night and could not be happier04:01
Kamping_Kaiser:) cool. going ok?04:02
Xappehmm, or should it be iocharset?04:02
toffyXappe, ok soo /dev/hda1 /media/win ntfs umask=0222 nls=utf8 0 ?04:02
ermoXappe, man 8 mount says nls04:02
TechLord_Workyep have xine my cd rom mount automagically and so do my usb hdd and04:02
TechLord_Workonly problem is i cant get my builtin card reader to work04:02
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Xappeermo: as thought then04:03
Kamping_Kaiser:( sounding better though04:03
TechLord_Workyep lots the card reader seems to be a problem across the bord with ever distribution i've read about04:03
Xappetoffy: umask=0222,nls=utf804:03
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ermoXappe, do you know whether the options 'utf8,nls=utf8' are redundant or just complimentary?04:05
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Xappeermo: I have no idea04:05
Spirit7609hi guys! just installed.. looks nice but - Ubuntu didn't ask me for a root passwd.. strange. is there a default?04:05
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TechLord_Workthere is no root password by default it uses sudo04:06
ermotoffy, anyway, load the nfs_utf8 module with 'sudo /sbin/modprobe nls_utf8' before you try asking mount to use utf8 mappings04:06
toffyXappe, tnz no I find my files04:06
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Spirit7609but sudo also asks for the passwd04:06
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TechLord_Workyour user password04:06
larsrohdinTuxicity, I have to go now, but ill be back later or some other day...04:06
toffyermo, ok but it works now then04:06
Spirit7609oh nice04:06
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Spirit7609thanks :-)04:06
TechLord_Workby default the first user you created at startup time is in the suoders list04:06
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ermotoffy, oh goody!04:07
Spirit7609ok, when you're used to other distros, this is kind of strange.. but I'll get it. thanks again04:07
TechLord_Worknp04:07
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chaseis there some thing special i have to do to get my PCMCIA card reognised? Ive got pcmcia pcmcia_core yenta_socket and ndiswrapper loaded in the kernel and /etc/init.d/pcmcia is running but when i plug the card in i dont see any out put in /var/log/messages? is there somethign im missing04:08
TechLord_Workwhat type of card is it?04:09
elshadiiI have reciently aquired a router and am trying to learn samba do you guys know a good tutorial for newbies?04:09
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chaseTechLord_Work, Linksys wireless card04:10
Thorrn4hello!!! Im very new to Linux; I was wondering are there any benefits of Using ubuntu of kubuntu?04:10
trygvebwIf you like GNOME better than KDE, use Ubuntu. If it's the other way around, use Kubuntu.04:10
TechLord_Worki personally find ubuntu more stable04:11
Thorrn4more stable?04:11
LinuxJonesThorrn4, it depends on if you like using Gnome or KDE. Other than that they have the same core components04:11
WillCookeelshadii, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba04:11
elshadiithanks WillCooke04:11
WillCookeelshadii, Google is your friend!04:11
chasei installed ubuntu then just removed the gnome apps and installed kde stuff and stability seems fine04:11
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Insomhi all04:12
Kamping_Kaiserhi04:12
elcuThorrn4: less crashes04:12
Thorrn4so, ubuntu would be a beginner's linux, easy 2 use and install?04:12
trygvebwYep.04:12
membreyaaside from cpu family 15, model 12 (as appears in /proc/cpuinfo), is there any way to tell the family NAME of the CPU you're running?04:12
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Insomany of u guys run ubuntu on hp pavilion?04:12
trygvebwUbuntu is designed to be easy to use.04:12
Kartagiswhy does apt-get have to remove libqt3-dev when getting KDE?04:12
AiYorihi all04:12
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ivo_hello every one04:13
Insomhi04:13
LinuxJonesThorrn4, I would run the LiveCD for a few days to get the feel of Linux, before attempting an install04:13
AiYorii don't undersand why i don't arrive to read mp3 files it say that i vnt got the plugin04:13
ivo_who wants to help me with a question I have???04:13
trygvebwYeah, try a LiveCD. :)04:13
Insomi have a question about my s3 savage video card on my hp laptop04:13
Insompitaj stari04:13
elcuAiYori: ubuntuguide.org04:13
membreyaAiYori: mp3 codecs dont ship by default04:14
Thorrn4LinuxJones, should I only test the live cd and installed from the INSTALL CD or install from the live cd?04:14
ivo_i want to install java_sdk, but in wich directory must the selfextracting package must be extracted??04:14
TechLord_Workchase what do you see if you do a lspci04:14
trygvebwThorrn4: You try the LiveCD, and install from the Install CD :)04:14
LinuxJonesThorrn4, you can't do an install from the LiveCD as of yet. :(04:14
Thorrn4oh, ok04:14
Thorrn4oh....04:14
Thorrn4aight then thanx!!04:14
elcuThorrn4: not from an ubuntu live cd04:14
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Thorrn4I'll start to d/l them now04:15
ivo_i want to install java_sdk, but in wich directory must the selfextracting package must be extracted??04:15
Thorrn4Im been convinced!!!04:15
Insomivo_: http://ubuntuguide.org/04:15
Thorrn4s/Im/I've04:15
trygvebwThorrn4: :)04:15
LinuxJonesheh04:15
P2OGcheck this google map for the heck of it, Triagle with Circles inside it out in the middle of nowhere nevada04:15
P2OGhttp://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.627187,-116.847925&spn=0.024161,0.031672&t=k&hl=en04:15
trygvebwP2OG, scarry XD04:15
chaseTechLord_Work, im not seeing a change when having the card in out out04:15
Thorrn4In advance, how can I uninstall the GNOME and install KDE?04:16
ivo_doesn't any one know that in here?04:16
mipfiknow anyone a way how to start ET with ESD ?04:16
LinuxJonesThorrn4, it's easy04:16
trygvebwThorrn4: Remove gnomelibs with Synaptic, and install the kde package :)04:16
AiYorithx elcu, membreya04:16
elcuThorrn4: you can have both of them.04:16
Insomivo: just check out this link http://ubuntuguide.org/ there is a howto in installing java on ubuntu04:16
barto-kunP2OG: go down a bit, and there's a gun sight04:17
Insomin = on04:17
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TechLord_Workchase i don't think that the system is seeing the card.  what do you get if you try and iwconfig04:17
Insomdoes anyone know where to get s3 savage drivers for ubuntu?04:17
elcuwhy don't they include the ubuntuguide link in the #ubuntu topic? :)04:17
Thorrn4elcu, I try GNOME out then......I hate GNOME 1.4 in Solaris 9!!!! IT CRASHED ON ME SOOOO MUCH....I have nightmares04:17
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trygvebwThorrn4: GNOME 1.4 is TOTALLY different from GNOME 2.10 :)04:18
LinuxJonesThorrn4, Gnome 2.10 is much better :)04:18
mwh_hello, im trying to compile beagle-0.0.9 but I get stuck with the following error msg during configure:04:18
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elcuheh, what trygvebw said.04:18
mwh_configure: error: Unable to find scrnsaver.h.  You probably need to install XFree86 development packages04:18
mwh_I use hoary04:18
chaselo        no wireless extensions. / eth0      no wireless extensions. / sit0      no wireless extensions.04:18
Thorrn4ok, I started downloading it04:18
mwh_and I cant seem to find the package which contains that header04:18
trygvebwmwh_, Beagle 0.0.9 won't install on Hoary, sorry :)04:18
kanuhamipfi, did you try this "echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss" ?04:19
trygvebwThorrn4, good luck :)04:19
chaseTechLord_Work, i dont know what the sit0 can from thought?04:19
mwh_trygvebw: why?04:19
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TsuroerusuYo Guys! Except for the "official ubuntu" kernel I have a full Ubuntu system running on my Xbox04:19
trygvebwmwh_, It requires a newer Mono version :)04:19
trygvebwTsuroerusu, congrats :)04:19
Kamping_Kaisercool. lol04:19
elcuThorrn4: for the future, read ubuntuguide.org and visit the ubuntu forums first.  it will save us from having to tell you so.04:19
mwh_trygvebw: I have a newer version of Mono04:19
P2OGHere's another good strange design GOOGLE MAPS -> http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.401087,-116.865864&spn=0.008165,0.010450&t=k&hl=en04:19
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trygvebwmwh_: Which one?04:19
mwh_trygvebw: 1.1.604:19
TechLord_Workthe system does not see and/or recognize the card04:19
trygvebwok :)04:19
Tsuroerusu1.404:20
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eskaypeyhey ubuntu is a bit slow on boot up??04:20
mwh_trygvebw: the problem I have is the thing I mentioned before04:20
mwh_trygvebw: configure: error: Unable to find scrnsaver.h.  You probably need to install XFree86 development packages04:20
trygvebwmwh_: You need the xscreensaver libs and dev files04:20
Tuxicityeskaypey, Warty?04:20
trygvebwHowait.04:20
chaseTechLord_Work, if its not seeing the card am i missing somethign in linux then? something not loaded in the kerenel or somthing?04:20
eskaypeyyeah04:20
mwh_okay how to get them? .. what are they named04:20
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Thorrn4elcu, I just had a few questions, that could quickly be answered; I didnt want to bother anyone, but everyone seemed contant on helping me04:21
trygvebwlibxss-dev04:21
trygvebwmwh_: libxss-dev04:21
mwh_ahh04:21
mwh_thanks04:21
trygvebwnp :)04:21
Tuxicityeskaypey, Warty was a bit slow as I recall. Hoary is faster04:21
mwh_why the heck is it named like that .. grr :)04:21
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trygvebw:)04:21
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TechLord_Workchase which version of the card do you have04:22
elcuThorrn4: yeah, its ok.  i was just saying it for later, when you wonder why you can't play dvds or mp3s.04:22
melodiehello all04:22
Thorrn4does Ubuntu use apt-get? because that is what Im kinda use 204:22
Thorrn4Kaffeine plays that stuff04:22
Kamping_Kaiseryes04:22
Kamping_Kaiserit does use apt04:22
trygvebwThorrn4, yes04:22
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Thorrn4elcu, kaffeine, the front for xine, can play DVDs and MP3s; its nice04:22
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chaseTechLord_Work, Ver 1.2 its WPC54G04:24
Thorrn4thanks for all your help guys....I'll be back if I cannot install Ubuntu or get it 2 work, lol :D04:24
trygvebwThorrn4, good luck :)04:24
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Thorrn4one last thing! does Ubuntu wipe the hd to install itself? for do I have 2 use another program 2 do that?04:27
ivo_what do I use for compiling *.java in ubuntu??04:27
Kamping_Kaiserthorrn4 if youwant it to wipe the hdd it will04:28
Thorrn4ok Kamping_Kaiser thanx04:28
Thorrn4bye again!!!04:28
barto-kunThorrn4: it gives you the option to erase the drive, but there's a manual disk setup wizard if you don't want it to04:28
Kamping_Kaiser:)04:28
TechLord_Workchase do you know what the chipset is in that card04:28
Thorrn420 more minutes until it is d/l04:28
Thorrn4I'll check back in later04:28
Thorrn4lol04:29
ivo_what do I use for compiling *.java in ubuntu??04:29
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Kamping_Kaiserffs, what you using for adsl? 1mb? thorrn4?04:29
chaseTechLord_Work, no give me a sec04:29
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XplOzIonanyone know how to fix amsn crash?04:30
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dcravenivo_: javac04:30
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ivo_yes i know04:31
timmowIve been having memory issues and i just found my swap was not working.  I had to do mkswap /dev/hda4 and then swapon /dev/hda404:31
ivo_but i installed sdk, but I don't have javac!!!04:31
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markdragoIs there a package I can pull in that will get most everything I need to do gnome development on ubuntu?04:31
timmowAnyone know why, or how I can check it is set up properly?04:31
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ivo_do i have to install something else, or make a "ln -s"???04:31
dcravenivo_: check for it in /usr/bin04:31
chaseTechLord_Work, no i cant find it, i just probablly be looking in the wrong place04:32
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Insomhow do i refresh repositories04:32
dcravenivo_: locate javac04:32
ivo_i only have java!!04:33
markdragoOr is there a package that will pull in all of the autotools stuff?04:33
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olorinInsom: sudo apt-get update04:33
dcravenivo_: maybe you only installed the JRE? Not the SDK?04:33
ivo_mm04:33
Insomtnx olorin04:33
ivo_let's check04:33
serfurjis there a default root password?  i didn't have the chance to set it during the default server install mode04:33
ivo_is this the same package??? (.bin)04:33
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olorinserfurj: no04:34
ivo_./java_sdk/j2sdk1.4.2_08/bin/javac04:34
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olorinserfurj: there is no root passwd04:34
dcravenivo_: if you have "java" in your path, but not javac, there is an excellent chance you have the JRE.04:34
LinuxJonesmarkdrago, sudo apt-get update && apt-get install build-essential will get the basics like gcc, make etc...04:34
ivo_this was found by  the searcher: ./java_sdk/j2sdk1.4.2_08/bin/javac04:34
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dcravenivo_: there it is!04:34
dcravenivo_: use that to compile.04:34
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serfurjolorin: i tried entering no password as root, didn't work04:34
ivo_but first I have to make a link??04:34
ivo_ln -s???04:34
olorinserfurj: use sudo04:35
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BlackLabelis there such thing as a .om domain?04:35
dcravenivo_: either make a symlink as you suggest, or use the absolute path to javac in your compile command.04:35
serfurjolorin: thanks04:35
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ivo_okay many thanks :D04:36
dcravenivo_: np04:36
timmowis it possible for swap to get corrupted?04:36
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timmowand is it bad to share swap between distros?04:36
njs12345timmow: I don't believe so04:37
njs12345timmow: definitely not04:37
markdragoLinuxJones, thanks.04:37
dcraventimmow: I suppose so... But rebooting would fix it for certain.04:37
LinuxJonesmarkdrago, np04:37
njs12345timmow: swap is swap, no matter what distro you're using ;)04:37
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njs12345it could be corrupted if your disk drive was corrupt04:37
timmowright thats what i thought thanks04:37
markdragoI'm kind of tooling through synaptic now just grabbing all kinds of extras.04:37
markumanfucking flash don't work in firefox and mozilla. but in command line swfplayer works04:37
ompaultimmow (A) it is always possible, but but not likely (B) no problem using the same swap for many distros (as long as they are not running at the same time Xen / UML) :-)04:37
timmowswapon failed with invalid options, after i ran mkswap, i typed the exact same thing and it worked04:38
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Q_ContinuumLinux pwns Windows.04:38
Q_ContinuumI have proof.04:38
ompaulpwns?04:38
dcravenoh boy04:38
Q_Continuumnot only that, but proof that Linux pwns Windows at windows-games.04:38
njs12345ompaul: you've obviously never played Counter-Strike :P04:39
Kamping_Kaiserlol04:39
Q_ContinuumWorld of Warcraft loads faster under linux than windows. lol.04:39
ivo_yes, i have got it04:39
ompaulnjs12345, would that be a windows game?04:39
TuxicityQ_Continuum, emulated?04:39
njs12345ompaul: yes, it was04:39
Q_Continuumcedega, yes.04:39
ivo_who knows a good java editor with live time improvement?? for ubuntu???04:39
BlackLabelhi ompaul04:39
ivo_who knows a good java editor with live time improvement?? for ubuntu???04:39
ompaulnjs12345, that would explain that then :-)04:39
timmowAlso is it normal for xorg to use a lot of memory? It is using 101mb04:39
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dcravenivo_: settle down.04:39
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holycowQ_Continuum, hehe04:40
njs12345timmow: a lot of pixmaps and stuff are stored in X, I thinkl04:40
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BlackLabelompaul i will msg u04:40
ompaulBlackLabel, k04:40
Q_ContinuumOh noes!  Not a project plan!04:40
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ivo_??04:40
ivo_what is it dcraven??04:40
dcravenivo_: you don't have to repeat yourself in 5 seconds.04:40
ompaulQ_Continuum, and for you the gant chart of new ....04:40
ivo_ow now, that was my fault04:40
njs12345I was thinking of buying WoW, but it'd just fuel my addiction to online games and make me do even less homework04:40
Q_ContinuumAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH04:41
ivo_made a mistake, sorry04:41
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dcravenivo_: what is live time improvement?04:41
njs12345and plus, subscription fees! :(04:41
Ironfrostis there a way to uninstall a program I installed from a .deb file?04:41
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trygvebwdpkg -r program04:41
Q_ContinuumWoW = freaking addicting.04:41
trygvebwsudo dpkg -r program04:41
DalkusHow can I stop X running?04:41
Dalkus(temporarily)04:41
trygvebwIronfrost ^04:41
trygvebwDalkus: telinit 304:41
njs12345Dalkus: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop04:41
trygvebwDalkus: or "killall gdm"04:41
ivo_i mean, when you type, and you make a mistake the program make the code underlined so you know that something is not good.04:41
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Dalkustelinit 3 did nothing04:41
Dalkusthanks04:41
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njs12345ivo_: try Netbeans or Eclipse04:41
Ironfrostthanks a lot04:42
ivo_okay thanks04:42
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mustafahi i am getting xkb error when i configure my keyboard layout04:43
mustafai try to set it turkish q04:43
mustafabut it does not work properly04:43
mustafaayone help04:43
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dcravenmustafa: you are setting the XkbLayout in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?04:45
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melodieI'm loooking for the ntfsresize tool supposed to be inclueded with partman in the Hoary installer04:46
melodiesomeone knows about it please ?04:46
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melodieI'm installing on a laptop just now04:46
jojomillan_hi all. where could i post my xorg.log so yuo guys could have a quick look? can't get nvidia drivers working...04:47
mustafano04:47
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dcravenmustafa: what is the value of XkbLayout in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? I believe you want it to be "tr".04:48
dcravenjojomillan_: pastebin.com04:48
jojomillan_cheers04:48
jojomillan_anyone care to have a look? http://pastebin.com/27526604:49
Tuxicitymelodie, ntfsprogs04:49
raphaHi all!04:49
dcravenjojomillan_: I assume you did this --> http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html#installnvidiadriver04:49
Kamping_Kaiserhi04:49
jojomillan_yes04:49
Kamping_Kaiseri didnt use that method04:50
melodieTuxicity: more detail plse ?04:50
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raphaI need some help with mysql. I just moved /var/lib/mysql to ~/.mysql  and symlinked it (~is back-upped), but now mysql doesn't see its databases anymore. Can this be made to work?04:50
jojomillan_dcraven: i would install the drivers by hand, but i can't. the installer can't find the headers/source - although they are installed04:50
mustafalook i am newbie now tell me how or where can i read the value04:50
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melodieI'm trying to find out if the resize can be done during the install :)04:51
njs12345mustafa: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | gre XkbLayout04:51
njs12345oops04:51
njs12345mustafa: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep XkbLayout04:51
Tuxicitymelodie, did you hear it could be done? I didnt think so, but maybe you're right?04:51
stuNNedrapha: it's probably not as simple as a symlink, check #mysql04:51
melodieTuxicity: I read that ntfsresize is now part of Partman in the installer04:52
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melodieand I've got a win in this old laptop I bought yesterday so I try to find out before formatting all04:53
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timmowmelodie: I used knoppix and qtparted to sort all the partitions out before i installed ubuntu.  Might be an easier method.04:54
melodieotherwise I didn't find any howto for that :)04:54
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melodietimeow: I look not for easy known method, but for easy unknown method :))04:54
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mustafaok f'nally04:55
jojomillan_dcraven: any ideas?04:55
raphastuNNed: Okay, thx04:55
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Tuxicitymelodie, indeed you're right04:55
melodieI can try only once, because after I can't reinstall a win in order to try04:55
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mustafawhat w'll i do next04:56
melodieI try to search further on the web incase...04:56
Tuxicitymelodie, well did you try booting the installer?04:56
dcravenjojomillan_: I'm not familiar with that error. It looks like it chokes on GLX?04:57
flamesi want reach my xp share in ubuntu with smbmount, command: sudo smbmount //192.168.0.2/share-a /share/a04:57
flamesit's work fine yesterday, but today i get this: 9869: protocol negotiation failed, what is this?04:57
melodieTuxicity: I'm on the partitionment phase on the laptop04:57
Kamping_Kaiserflames itll be windows04:57
jojomillan_dcraven: i have considered that. not quite how nvidia drivers should behave, though!04:57
melodieand started to explore the options04:57
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bet0xhttp://www.dancepic.addr.com/Fun.htm <- very nice04:57
flameswhat is the solution?04:57
dcravenmustafa: did you find out the value of XkbLayout in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?04:58
Thorrn4I have another question: what are "Warty Warthog" and "HOARY HEDGEHOG"?04:58
Tuxicitymelodie, from Bugzilla "ntfstools-udeb added to Hoary, and I've confirmed that the Ubuntu installer can resize NTFS filesystems now."04:58
melodie:)04:58
jojomillan_Thorrn4: the names of the different releases04:58
Thorrn4butm what are they for?04:59
melodieTuxicity: all the pb is to find what is the right option04:59
jojomillan_Thorrn4: to sound good i reckon!04:59
melodiedo you have the link to give ?04:59
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Tuxicitymelodie, I wonder if you must be in "expert mode install"?05:00
IronfrostThorrn4: what are ME and XP? Same thing.05:00
Thorrn4what do they do?05:00
dcravenjojomillan_: did you edit your xorg.conf at all?05:00
melodieTuxicity: I'm on manual partitionning mode05:00
jojomillan_dcraven: not manually. only swapped nv for nvidia05:00
IronfrostWarty is the previous release; Hoary is the current one05:00
Thorrn4current what?!05:00
melodiewhich is probably the expert equivalent05:00
timmowmelodie: i read a review that said the partitioner was confusing http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/04/19/200205&from=rss05:01
timmowmelodie: says it warns you that it will format partition, but actually just resizes it05:01
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melodietimmow: ok I read that :)05:02
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Tuxicitymelodie, tu parles franais aussi?05:03
melodieTuxicity: yes sir05:03
dcravenjojomillan_: can you put your xorg.conf in pastebin too?05:03
melodie:)05:03
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jojomillan_dcraven: sure05:03
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melodieTuxicity: do you want to talk apart in french ?05:04
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dcravenI wondered how long it would take before someone put the moves on melodie :)05:04
GNAMTuxicity #ubuntu-fr05:04
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jojomillan_dcraven: it appears a bit bloated to me       http://pastebin.com/27527505:04
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niklswhen opening gnome, it stops on openin "metacity" process, then don't complete openin gnome process. I reinstalled metacity and nautilus with no result, what can i do now?05:05
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dcravenjojomillan_: it looks like the switch from "nv" to "nvidia" didn't take. It is still nv.05:06
olorinnikls: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure metacity'05:06
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jojomillan_dcraven: yes, because that's what i'm running now. it crashes when i change to nvidia05:07
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dcravenjojomillan_: ahh.05:07
niklsolorin: ok, i'll try then i'll tell you what happens05:07
WildWiresHi05:07
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olorinWildWires: hi ;)05:08
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dcravenjojomillan_: I kinda doubt this is the problem, but maybe you should double-check your refreshrates.. They look a tad low in there.05:08
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darkauditarggh... I opened a port with firestarter, but it insists on blocking it anyway... even after clicking on  'allow service for everyone'05:09
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sigwhere does ubuntu put the codecs if I did apt-get install codecs?05:10
WildWiresCan someone help me get a SoundBlaster Audigy 2 to work with Ubuntu.. btw.. I am new to chatting and not too savvy with protocals05:10
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niklsolorin: when trying "dpkg-reconfigure metacity", i have that answer:enable to initialyze interface Gnome05:10
jojomillan_dcraven: can a programm test that for me?05:11
dcravenjojomillan_: why is "Load "dri"" commented out? (line 041 at http://pastebin.com/275275)05:11
olorinnikls: warty hoary ? upgrade ?05:11
sigw32codecs05:11
niklsolorin: hoary05:11
jojomillan_dcraven: because the readme on nvidia.com told me so!05:12
dcravenjojomillan_: the install is supposed to auto-detect that stuff, but sometimes fails in which case it uses low (safe) defaults. You can typically find the refresh rates for your monitor online or in your manual.05:12
olorintry reinstall ubuntu-desktop05:12
dcravenjojomillan_: Okay, I've never used that readme. I'm just looking at the xorg.conf on my desktop which also has an nvidia. I don't have that commented out.05:13
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jojomillan_dcraven: okay. worth a try i guess05:13
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niklsolorin: It's also written " (DISPLAY problem?) "  and " use interface Dialog instead"05:13
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MaxeyPadfor some reason the w32codecs package is gone05:14
olorinok05:14
olorinnikls: wait a minute05:14
niklsolorin:05:14
niklsok05:14
olorinnikls: sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf05:14
olorinand choose dialog05:14
niklsolorin: ok05:14
dcravenjojomillan_: let me know how it goes.. I'm curious.05:15
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MaxeyPadfor whatever reason the w32codecs package is not available via apt anymore.  I was running warty and I was able to get it.  now i'm running hoary and the package appears to have disappeared.  when I run apt there are references to the package, but the actual package is unavailable05:15
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jojomillan_dcraven: okay, just looking up the refresh rates05:15
dcravenjojomillan_: cool.05:16
niklsolorin: done, what's next, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure metacity'?05:16
ManLordI just installed the w32codecs packages05:16
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olorinnikls: yes retry05:16
niklsolorin: ok05:17
dcravenMaxeyPad: maybe they are in the marillat repository?05:17
niklsolorin: I have the same error message05:17
olorinnikls: with the ' use dialog instead ' ?05:17
jojomillan_dcraven: here goes nothing :-)05:18
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niklsolorin: debconf: Utilisation de l'interface Dialog  la place05:18
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niklsolorin: it's french05:18
olorinnikls: yes like me :d05:19
niklsolorin: otu es franais?05:19
olorinnikls: Belge05:19
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niklsolorin: parfait05:19
olorinnikls: lol05:19
dcravenJe ne parle pas Francais.05:19
dcravenIs that right?05:19
dcravenClose?05:20
niklsright05:20
dcraven:)05:20
MaxeyPadyes they were in the marillat repository.  i had it disabled because it was down for a little while05:20
niklsnobody's perfect :)05:20
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dcravenMaxeyPad: so you found them again? I suggest commenting that repository once you have what you need from it.05:21
cuscothanks Tuxicity and smouche05:21
Tuxicitycusco, np05:21
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dcravenI wish I was bilingual.05:21
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jojomillan_dcraven: same issue i'm afraid05:21
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dcravenjojomillan_: crud.05:22
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jojomillan_dcraven: looks better on a higher refresh rate mind you!05:22
melodiedcraven: you can learn05:22
dcravenjojomillan_: I bet it does.. hehe05:22
jeroen_hello05:22
dcravenmelodie: true05:22
cuscoTuxicity: sory, there is no such package gtranscode... from any special repository?05:22
andrewskican anyone access www.ubuntuguide.org?  it's not connecting for me....05:22
melodie:)05:22
dcravenandrewski: lose the www part.05:22
andrewskidcraven: i'm just connecting from the forums; it added the www.05:23
Ironfrostdcraven: http://ubuntuguide.org isn't working for me05:23
jojomillan_dcraven: i noticed that the server can't load a symbol called libdri.a05:23
St0n3-C0ldoesn't matter dcraven05:23
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dcravenSt0n3-C0l: ahh.05:23
dcravenIt just died. I was there a minute ago.05:24
serfurjis there a way to get a description summary of a package with apt-get or related tools?05:24
Tuxicitycusco, from the multiverse repo05:24
trygvebwserfurj: sudo apt-cache show package05:24
dcravenjojomillan_: I suppose that is why they tell you to comment that out eh? hehe05:24
LinuxJonesserfurj, apt-cache show packagename05:24
dcravenjojomillan_: I'll check my logs just out of curiousity.05:24
jojomillan_dcraven: all of a sudden, it makes sense !!05:24
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Ironfrostserfurj - Synaptic gives you a description, and that links into the same thing as apt-get05:24
serfurjtrygvebw: LinuxJones: thanks05:24
nullsetHi all05:25
andrewskiIronfrost: not working for you either?05:25
jiyuu0i hope i din burst ubuntuguide.org bandwidth quota05:25
Ironfrostandrewski: nope05:25
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LinuxJonesjiyuu0, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-faqguide to download it to your computer05:25
nullsetubuntu-faqguide??05:26
Ironfrosthttp://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:oCNVrC8mgQ8J:ubuntuguide.org/+ubuntuguide&hl=en is the google cache if you need anything from it05:26
dcravenjojomillan_: hmmm.. Mine loaded that module from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdir.a05:26
LinuxJonesnullset, it's the ubuntuguide.org site that's been packaged05:26
smoucheit's not loading for me either.05:26
dcravenjojomillan_: Keep in mind that I used a different install method. I got the installer from nvidia.05:26
jiyuu0LinuxJones, is it the sam everseion05:26
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jojomillan_dcraven: great, now i', really confused05:26
jojomillan_dcraven: the installer doesn't work for me. i've tried05:27
whiteknightjojomillan_, are you installing the nvidia driver?05:27
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jiyuu0i'll check with the hosting company later... c y it's down05:27
LinuxJonesjiyuu0, it's Version: 0.2-105:27
jojomillan_dcraven: i took the one from the ubuntu repos05:27
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ironwolfanyone using gtkpod? if so, how do I tell it to only update certain playlists?05:28
ironwolfby update, I mean transfer to the ipod.05:28
zxchow do I change the gdm login screen I got these instructions (1. Computer -> System Configuration -> Login Screen Setup) but I can't find "Computer"05:28
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LinuxJoneszxc, sudo gdm-setup05:28
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webtoezxc: you need to go to system -> administration -> login screen05:29
webtoesystem is at the top of the screen05:29
zxcthanks webtoe05:29
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nullsetI can listen a music in my computer,however I can't listen sound on flash movie in mozilla-web broswer.05:30
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nullsetDo you know why it it?05:30
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nullsetI think I had better compile new kernel.....05:31
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signullset: did you get the plugin from ubuntuguide.org ?05:31
nullsetno05:32
nullsetwhat is the plugin?05:32
sigthats probably your problem05:32
siglet me get you the link05:32
nullsetreally?05:32
sigit works flawlessly on my comp05:32
nullsetflashmovie??05:32
sigapt-get install flashplayer-mozilla05:32
dcravenjojomillan_: have you run "nvidia-glx-config enable"? I don't remember doing that.. But again, different install method.05:33
nullsetthx05:33
nullsetI will try.05:33
sigonce it is installed open a new browser and let me know if it works05:33
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Jmax1632does ubuntu come with X11?05:34
bpuccionullset: for what it's worth, I'm having the same problem on my girlfriend's computer, she doesn't get sound in firefox-flash, but I do, neither one of us have it installed the ubuntu way, rather, we just used firefox's built in plugin installer, however, I'm going to try the ubuntu way on hers tonight to see if it works05:34
St0n3-C0lsig: u said did you get the plugin from ubuntuguide.org05:34
St0n3-C0llol05:34
St0n3-C0lsig: they're not providing plugins...just guiding u05:34
sigSt0n3-C0l: I meant the readme05:34
jojomillan_dcraven: no, all that script does is change nv to nvidia i think. i used to have the official nvidia drivers working. till i updated to hoary. now the installer can't find the right kernel source, although it is there.05:34
dcravenJmax1632: yes05:34
sigthanks but I need no guidance from you05:34
Jmax1632dcraven: thanks05:34
St0n3-C0llol05:34
nullsetIt doesn't sound...-0-05:35
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sigis your volume turned up?05:35
nullsetyeah...05:35
sigdid you open a new browser?05:35
St0n3-C0lsometimes...flash movies hangs when their sound is enabled :P05:35
dcravenjojomillan_: hmmm... You have a kernel-source-2.6.10-5-386/ in your /usr/src directory?05:35
sigalso did you remove the old flash plugin that you installed ?05:35
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jojomillan_dcraven: linux-source-2.6.10 is the name of the folder05:36
nullsetI should do the kernel compile... ^^05:36
serfurjwhy does "apt-get install emacs21-nox" say there are no candidates, when there should be?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/editors/emacs21-nox05:36
dcravenjojomillan_: something tells me I had to rename the linux-source dir to kernel-source to make the installer happy. I also created a /usr/src/linux symlink to the kernel source dir just for fun.05:36
nullsetI think it is better...05:36
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jojomillan_dcraven, yeah i've got the symlink too05:37
sigI think not nullset but go ahead05:37
signullset: you didn't remove the old plugin before you installed the new one correct?05:37
Hoxzerhow do I change resolution? :/05:37
jojomillan_i'm running the 2.6.10-5-k7 kernel though... shouldnt matter i think05:37
nullsetok I remeber...05:37
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nullsetIt was very interesting to compile kernel...05:38
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nullsetthx all ^^05:38
nullsetexit05:38
dcravenjojomillan_: try making a symlink to that dir called kernel-source-2.6.10-5-k7 that points to the dir. It probably does matter because the installer might look at 'uname -r' for your running kernel.05:38
Jmax1632does ubuntu use grub, or lilo?05:38
Myrttigrub05:38
Jmax1632ok05:39
Jmax1632how do you change TTY resolution?05:39
jiyuu0ubuntuguide.org is up05:39
Kartagiswhy does apt-get have to remove libqt3-dev when getting KDE?05:39
serfurjah ha, needed to enable universe repository05:39
Jmax1632jiyuu0: sorry, i'm actually trying to help out a linux n00b.05:39
dcravenKartagis: is it replacing it with the multithreaded version?05:39
jojomillan_dcraven: http://pastebin.com/27528405:40
bpucciojiyuu0: is mirroring needed for the guide?05:40
Kartagisdunno05:40
jiyuu0bpuccio, maybe not for now...05:40
bpucciojiyuu0: ok05:40
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jiyuu0i'm thinkin to change to a diff hosting server05:41
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jojomillan_dcraven: would downloading the source from kernel.org be any help, do you think?05:41
Jmax1632mmm\05:42
dcravenjojomillan_: not likely.05:42
Jmax1632sorry, Hoxzer , i have other things to do05:42
whiteknightjojomillan_, could i help?05:42
Hoxzerumm...05:42
bpucciojiyuu0: ok, I have plenty of bandwidth, I have a server and host a few sites for people, it's sort of a webhost co-op, so let me know if you need anything05:42
SirFunkhey, what software do you guys use to rip CD's?05:42
dcravenjojomillan_: did you point it towards /usr/src/linux yourself or did it assume the sources were there?05:43
bpuccioSirFunk: I use gnomebaker (in universe I think)05:43
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SirFunkhmm.. i'm using grip.. but it's SLOW05:43
SirFunkmy cd drive is idk like 52x and grip is going at like 2x05:43
dcravenjojomillan_: ahh.. It says not specified.05:43
larsrohdinTuxicity, you here?05:44
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Tuxicitylarsrohdin, ya, kind of busy, still struggling with video and all...05:44
bpuccioSirFunk: ah, I thought you meant rip to an ISO, sorry for the mixup.... have you enabled DMA?05:44
Raskallhow do I check the version of a kernel module?05:44
SirFunkbpuccio: oh, heh, i think, let me check05:44
larsrohdinTuxicity, ok... im no good at this IRC-business, how can i send a private message to you?05:44
Hoxzerso how can I change resolution in ubuntu couse that don't cover even the whole screen05:45
Hoxzerit looks realy annoying05:45
dcravenlarsrohdin: /msg whoever05:45
larsrohdindcraven, ok thx05:45
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cuscoTuxicity: sory I wasn't here... look to istall gtranscode I need transcode...05:45
cuscoTuxicity: E: Package transcode has no installation candidate05:45
bpuccioHoxzer: system -> prefs -> screen resolution05:46
jazzkawhen I compile some programs, I get this: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH05:46
IronfrostHoxzer - System  >Preferences > Screen Resolution05:46
Ironfrostbah05:46
Tuxicitycusco, in multiverse repo05:46
Ironfrostwhat bpuccio said05:46
jazzkawhich line may I edit?05:46
cuscoTuxicity: I just added the multiverse05:46
cuscoTuxicity: gtranscode is available but transcode istn't05:46
kanuhasimple question, I hope. How do I make the Kmenu transparent? I made the taskbar transparent, but don't see an option to make the menu transparent. I thought I had done this before.05:46
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SirFunkbpuccio: it was off, but now it's on and it's going almost as slow05:47
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HoxzerIron: I tryed that I can change it bigger :/05:47
Hoxzerwhen the win98 was installed it was 1024*76805:47
jojomillan_dcraven: i pointed it myself05:47
Tuxicitycusco, transcode seems to be in main repos...05:47
jojomillan_dcraven: i just don't get it05:47
bpuccioSirFunk: I'm sorry, I can't help any more, that's all I know of to speed up optical drives, sorry :(05:47
cuscoTuxicity: The following packages have unmet dependencies:05:47
cusco  gtranscode: Depends: transcode but it is not installable05:47
IronfrostHoxzer - why, what are the available options now?05:47
SirFunknuts05:48
SirFunkthanks though05:48
whiteknightjojomillan_, sorry can you explain your problem again, cause i might be able to help05:48
jojomillan_whiteknight: any help is apreciated!05:48
Tuxicitycusco, hmm05:48
dcravenjojomillan_: rename the linux-source-whatever to kernel-source-whatever... Then don't specify a source location when you try the installer.05:48
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HoxzerIron: dunno why, but avaible options are 640x480 and 800x60005:48
Hoxzer:/05:48
jojomillan_whiteknight: problem is, after ages of trying i can't get any form of nvidia drivers working05:48
cuscowhats wrong?05:49
dcravenjojomillan_: but first, see if whiteknight has any ideas :)05:49
eskaypeyhey how do you stop loading x on boot up05:49
jojomillan_dcraven: absolutely05:49
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whiteknightjojomillan_, are you using the nvidia installer?05:49
dcravenwhiteknight: this is his log --> http://pastebin.com/27526605:49
jojomillan_whiteknight: i've tried05:49
dcravenwhiteknight: he has used the debs from the Ubuntu repo I think.05:49
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whiteknightjojomillan_, i recommend concentrating on the nvidia installer05:50
cuscoTuxicity: it is on marilatt... im installing it from there...05:50
dcravenwhiteknight: I don't see the obvious issue in that log.05:50
jojomillan_whitenight: me neither05:50
IronfrostHoxzer - if you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:50
Ironfrostyou can add to the list of available screen resolutions05:50
dcravenwhiteknight: that was the direction we were headed now :)05:50
jojomillan_dcraven: still got the link to my xorg. output?05:50
webtoeeskaypey: you need to change the run level. usually changed in /etc/inittab05:50
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dcravenjojomillan_: this? --> http://pastebin.com/27527505:50
dracMy friend is having troubles disabling framebuffering from kernel. I told him to add video=vesafb:off to # kopt in menu.lst, but it still fscking loads! I'd like to know how exactly you disable it from Ubuntu, is there some special way to do it?05:51
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IronfrostHoxzer - go to SubSection "Display" in your xorg.conf05:51
Tuxicitycusco, cool05:51
jojomillan_dcraven: yes05:51
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topyliwebtoe: that's not the debian way. debian always boots to init 205:51
whiteknightjojomillan_, is the nvidia kernel module loaded?05:51
IronfrostHoxzer - and add the resolution you want after 'modes' (there is a list)05:51
jojomillan_whiteknight: yes05:51
whiteknightjojomillan_, lsmod|grep nvidia05:51
dracOr is people using ubuntu kernels, forced to vesafb?!05:52
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dcravenIronfrost: there is a wiki page that has what you are talking about too I think --> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:52
whiteknightjojomillan_, so, from the error log GLX is causing X to fail to start, what happens if you comment out GLX05:52
jojomillan_whiteknight: the module is from the repos - not the installer05:52
topylieskaypey: you need to get rid of the gdm symlink in /etc/rc2.d05:52
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topylieskaypey: use update-rc.d05:52
larsrohdinTuxicity, i had Tabs=hidden =)05:52
jojomillan_whiteknight: i'll try. give me two mins05:52
cuscoTuxicity: thanks05:53
Tuxicitylarsrohdin, oh i knew something was wrong lol05:53
dracD'oh, i'll take silency as yes.05:53
drac:/05:53
Tuxicitycusco, np05:53
larsrohdinTuxicity, but how do i get a new tab like you just did?05:53
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bet0xhow i can search for a String on a file and replace them05:53
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webtoeuse sed05:53
dcravenbet0x: sed05:54
eskaypeywhat gdm symlink looks like?05:54
topylidrac: personally, i had to enable the framebuffer separately. ubuntu doesn't use it by default05:54
bet0xbi want to change "Code version 2.1.2" to "Code version 2.1.7-a"05:54
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jojomillan_whiteknight == personal hero. the drivers are actually running05:55
dractopyli: Apparently 2.6.10-5-686-smp uses ..05:55
dracHe never loaded it, and now it's fucking his X.05:55
topylivga=normal should do it05:55
dracHmm.05:55
whiteknightjojomillan_, no worries, though one question, is this your xorg config? http://pastebin.com/27527505:55
bet0xany have a example05:55
bet0x?05:55
jojomillan_whiteknight: yes it was. changed a bit now05:56
topylieskaypey: you don't care, because you should leave it to update-rc.d05:56
whiteknightjojomillan_, do you mind posting up your new config, there are a few tweaks probably necessary :)05:56
topylieskaypey: i forget the command, look it up in the update-rc.d man page05:56
jojomillan_whiteknight: with pleasure05:57
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jojomillan_whiteknight: http://pastebin.com/27529005:57
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dracjojomillan_: I'm not sure what are you talking about, but remove following modules from xorg.conf to get better performancy with your nvidia card: bitmap, GLcore, ddc, vbe, int10, record. They are slowing the drivers down. Also, change ImPS/2 to ExplorerPS/2 and your mouse moves lot smoother.05:58
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dcravenbet0x: sed -e "s/searchword/replaceword/" filename >> filename.temp05:58
dracjojomillan_: Changing those, will increase your FPS.05:58
bet0xok05:58
whiteknightjojomillan_, firstly you want to comment out dri, both in the Module section and the DRI section at the end05:58
whiteknightjojomillan_, nvidia drivers don't (i seem to remember) use dri05:59
dcravenbet0x: that will create a new file called filename.temp with the changes you want... Check it first, and backup your original in case something goes wrong.05:59
dracjojomillan_: Indeed, get rid of dri too.05:59
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jojomillan_okay....06:00
dractopyli: Anyway, thanks for the tip, i'll tell him to try it.06:00
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bet0xdcraven, and how i do with dirs and subdirs06:01
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jojomillan_drac: i doubt i have 3d-acceleration, as i commented glx out. what can i do about that?06:01
ManLordhow to start Kate as root? i try sudo kate but it doesn't launch.. and i cant even launch it later06:01
topylieskaypey: basename is gdm in this case06:01
eskaypeyupdate-rc.d --force <basename> remove what is the basename?06:01
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topyliwhy force?06:02
eskaypeyor not really?06:02
eskaypeyor nothing?06:02
cuscoThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:02
cusco  libavcodeccvs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed06:02
cusco                 Depends: libpostproc0 (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but it is not going to be installed06:02
cuscoE: Broken packages06:02
jojomillan_whiteknight: glxgears doesn't work now of course. but i'm still a lot happier than earlier on!06:02
whiteknightjojomillan_, try and uncomment glx, and see what happens...06:02
cuscowhat do I do?06:02
topylieskaypey: i'd say update-rc.d remove gdm i guess06:03
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eskaypeyk i'll try that06:03
topyliyou read the man page, i didn't :)06:03
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maylari gotta say ubuntu was the only distro to get my nic working before a full install. (useing an older Dell D233ST lappy) just have one problem if anyone thinks they can help06:04
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jojomillan_whiteknight: uncommenting glx does the following: http://pastebin.com/27529206:05
niklsolorin; did not work06:05
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whiteknightjojomillan_, what debs did you install?06:06
olorinnikls: ahhh :(06:06
kanuhaManLord, I just use kedit06:06
kanuhaI had the same prpblem06:07
jojomillan_whiteknight: nvidia-glx; nvidia-kernel-common; nvidia-settings06:07
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kanuhasimple question, I hope. How do I make the Kmenu transparent? I made the taskbar transparent, but don't see an option to make the menu transparent. I thought I had done this before.06:08
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iSteveGreetings ... I've been told that during installation, Ubuntu checks out for installed systems and prepares proper menu for grub ... I wonder, how? How does it check what is there? Where can I find sources for this rather remarkable feature?06:09
dcravenbet0x: something like this might work --> "for i in `find ./mydir -type f`; do sed -e "s/searchword/replaceword/" $i >> ${i}.temp; done"06:09
dcravenbet0x: I'd test it first, and there are probably other ways.06:09
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vince_can anyone give me a hand?  i'm trying to compile something on ubuntu, and it keeps erroring out at the same place though i'm not sure what i'm missing06:10
whiteknightjojomillan_, is your card pci or agp?06:10
vince_checking for MD5 in -lcrypto... no06:10
vince_configure: error: libCrypto is required by tmsnc06:10
jojomillan_whiteknight: agp. geforce fx06:11
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webtoevince_: have you got libcrpto installed?06:11
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vince_i have both the libcrypto++ and openssl libraries installed (which has libcrypto)06:11
whiteknightjojomillan_, is agp module loaded?06:11
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jojomillan_whiteknight: nvidia_agp and agpgart are loaded, yes06:11
vince_webtoe, in /usr/lib, i have libcrypto.so.0.9.706:12
webtoeyou need to install the libcrypto-dev pacakage as well06:12
abiertoshello it's me again06:12
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whiteknightjojomillan_, then i'm not sure why glx isn't working06:12
abiertosLunitik help me!06:12
webtoevince_, then it will work06:12
jojomillan_whiteknight: me neither :-)06:12
abiertosLinux Jones06:12
webtoevince_, sorry libcrypto++-dev06:12
vince_webtoe, but it doesn't for some strange reason06:12
vince_yup, have the dev installed too06:12
abiertosI tried to recovery my root password06:13
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abiertosbut I failed06:13
webtoevince_: well the only thing i can suggest then if you're sure its installed is to try and specify to the configure script of the program your compiling where the library is06:13
Hoxzerhow can I lock In as a root in gnome?06:13
abiertosI need help06:13
resiakHoxzer: Don't.06:14
webtoevince_: you could try running /sbin/ldconfig but i assume the package installation would run that06:14
whiteknightjojomillan_, i have a strange idea, try default depth as 16 with glx uncommented06:14
HoxzerI need to be able to edit that conf file06:14
resiakHoxzer: So run your text editor with sudo06:14
grawNeed help: windows ntfs partition can only be accessed via shell but not from the graphical interface06:14
vince_webtoe, yeah, i ran the ldconfig too thinking it might be the problem.. i just created a symbolic link from libcrypto.so.0.9.7 to libcrypto.so to see if that will work, hang on06:14
jojomillan_whiteknight: not a bad idea. brb06:15
resiakHoxzer: Don't /msg me06:15
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abiertosI need help, I want to recovery my root password06:15
resiakHoxzer: IIRC, you can right-click a file in Nautilus and say "edit as root". I may be wrong, though. Alternatively, Alt-F2, sudo gedit06:15
resiakabiertos: Remember me?06:15
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abiertosyes06:15
resiakabiertos: What went wrong?06:15
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abiertosI did that you told me06:16
abiertosbut there's a problem06:16
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vince_webtoe, well, that worked, but now it's stopping at openssl, which I do have installed.. dammit :(06:16
abiertosI logged like a root06:16
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jojomillanwhiteknight: no good :-(06:17
abiertosbut I can to change the root password06:17
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dwsnewbie question: i just did a default install of hoary hedgehog. was is supposed to give me the option of changing the root password? or is that something that i only get by installed a server?06:17
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grawNeed help: windows ntfs partition can only be accessed via shell but not from the graphical interface06:17
whiteknightjojomillan, then sorry, the only option is to install the driver via the nvidia installer06:17
abiertosthere are modules that no load when you use init=/bin/sh06:17
Raskallhmm.. are there any know problems with nfs over wlan? When I copy files over nfs the machine hangs a lot of processes, but over samba it works just fine.06:17
jojomillanwhiteknight: no matter. you were a great help-. thanks06:17
whiteknightjojomillan, i don't personally have a nvidia, i run ubuntu on an ibook with a ati card ::)06:17
jago25_98Guys I hope you can help me because I can't use anything other than xchat. All my partitions on my IDE drive are listed as 0 bytes left by df and yet the space used is smaller than the overall space! fsck -pa didn't help!06:17
resiakabiertos: What went wrong?06:17
abiertosyou can login like a root with that way06:18
jojomillanwhiteknight: i'm not a fan of ati myself. and i can't afford an ibook!06:18
grawdws: you can by doing:     sudo passwd root      than entering your own password06:18
resiakabiertos: What's so hard about prefixing what you say with my name? I'll be less likely to wander off without helping you if you do.06:18
whiteknightjojomillan, yeah but there aren't any good drivers for ati cards on ppc06:18
abiertosbut all files just have read permission06:18
dwsgraw: thanks06:18
whiteknightjojomillan, good luck though06:18
abiertosI can't do nothing06:18
jojomillanwhiteknight: cheers06:19
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resiakabiertos: So you do what I said and remount your root filesystem read-write. mount -o remount,rw /06:19
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hans_i have gaim instant messenger started with msn protocol but i cant receive live webcam from my buddies. isnt that supported in ubuntu?06:19
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FR500hello06:19
resiakhans_: The short answer is "no".06:19
FR500is it complicated to make the console look like the one in gentoo livecd? with the nifty background and everything06:19
abiertosok06:19
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resiakabiertos: Please, _please_, start things you say to me with "resiak: ".06:20
dwsgraw: except that passwd wants the current root passwd, which install didn't give me06:20
hans_is there another program to receive live webcam from buddies06:20
resiakhans_: gaim-vv, but it doesn't work yet.06:20
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abiertoswhat?06:20
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grawdws: No it asks you for your OWN password.06:20
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XplOzIonhow can i remove the orphan packages?06:21
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dwsgraw: d'oh. thanks again.06:21
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grawgraw: type " sudo passwd root" Then it asks  for your OWN password06:22
grawdws: type " sudo passwd root" Then it asks  for your OWN password06:22
resiakabiertos: Please don't /msg me. Talk to me in here.06:23
abiertosok06:23
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jojomillanwhiteknight: does an xdpyinfo show any sign of GLX on your box?06:23
abiertostell me what can I do06:23
grawNEED HELP: windows ntfs partition can only be accessed via shell but not from the graphical interface06:23
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malte`how do i start esd on xfce's startup?06:23
abiertosthat way just let you manage the files in  read only mode06:24
whiteknightjojomillan, yup, why06:24
whiteknight?06:24
HoxzerResiak?06:24
resiakabiertos: Firstly, prefix what you say to me on IRC with "resiak: " like I prefix talking to you with "abiertos: ". Secondly, read what I tell you.06:24
resiakHoxzer: Yes?06:24
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abiertosok06:24
Hoxzerso how do I open that Nautilus?06:24
resiakabiertos: Once you have used init=/bin/sh and you get a root shell, things are read-only. So you run mount -o remount,rw / to remount your root partition read-write. Then you can use passwd to change the password.06:24
jojomillanwhiteknight: i have NV-GLX which isn't enough according to nvidia. my guess is, that a symlink or file is missing on my machine06:25
abiertosif my root partition is hda1 I have to put06:25
jojomillanwhiteknight: probably libglx.so06:25
resiakabiertos: You put _exactly_ what I just said.06:26
abiertosresiak: mount -o remount,rw /dev/hda1?06:26
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resiakabiertos: You could, or you can write mount -o remount,rw /06:26
whiteknightjojomillan, yes, you will have a different version perhaps, nvidia stick their own in the doc file for some reason06:26
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whiteknightjojomillan, something like, /usr/doc/nvidia-glx06:26
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Hoxzersoo.... hoow?06:27
abiertosok06:27
whiteknightjojomillan, this is all from memory when i use to use the driver over a year ago but apart from that i can't remember06:27
resiakabiertos: Oh, and thanks for the prefix :)06:27
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dockaneis there a good printing dialogue i can install for x?  i don't like no one of the offered: gimp, xpdf, OOo. all are different but nothing does it job as i expect06:27
abiertosresiak: please forgive me! :P06:27
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resiakabiertos: S'cool.06:28
abiertosresiak: bye06:28
jojomillanwhiteknight: looks like i'm missing a file. no solution found though  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7906.html06:28
abiertosresiak:I'll try the new tech06:28
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BurgerMannlo :)06:29
whiteknightjojomillan, use the nvidia installer06:29
hans_bye @ all06:29
whiteknightjojomillan, i think it'll solve a lot of problems06:29
IIIEarsHello! - Help! my root partition is shown mounted as an ordinary disk on the desktop after installing samba - how do i fix this?06:29
BurgerMannhow do I browse a network computer :?06:29
olorinnikls: so ?06:29
Kartagishow can I skip already installed packages with apt-get?06:29
bet0xhow i can play quicktime trailers on mozilla?06:29
IIIEarsBurgermon - on a local windows network?06:30
BurgerMannlol06:30
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BurgerMannlots of Qs06:30
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XplOzIonhow can i remove the orphan packages?06:30
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BurgerMannIIIEars,  nah two linux machines, both with kde desktop environment06:30
ManLordPROBLEM: can't get translucency to work | Can anyone help? | Please?06:31
kingsleyWhere's a version of fdisk that will put a Windows 98 compatible partition a 165GB hard drive?06:31
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sigXplOzIon: next time you remove a package and want orphan packages that are depended by that certain package do: apt-get remove --purge packagename06:31
IIIEarsnorris_, just swap and root - i am a bit worried.06:31
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bad_mongoHow do I make other machines see this ubuntu machine, using samba?06:31
XplOzIonsig, is ther a way to remove all of em at once?06:31
sigXplOzIon: with that command06:32
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sigXplOzIon: what are you trying to remove?06:32
Delphsig: ooh, purge does orphan packages as well? I thought it just did config files.06:32
djm62bad_mongo: System->Administration->Shared Folders06:32
sigDelph: you may be right, I'm looking at man apt now06:32
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membreyawhat's the command to create a system user? such as FTP ?06:33
djm62aptitude manages orphans better, IIRC06:33
sighttp://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html  3.3 Removing pakcages06:33
bad_mongodjm62, I have added some folder there, but others can't see them06:33
XplOzIonsig, thanks06:33
djm62bad_mongo: are you using the same "workgroup name"?06:33
IIIEarsbad_mongo - there is a decent explanation in the ubuntu forums - tho - you might end up where i am now your root parttion is shown mounted on the desk - I am guessing that this _ISN'T- supposed to happen - loll06:34
djm62bad_mongo: typically MSHOME06:34
Delphsig: not very helpful, is it?06:34
Delph--purge -- instead of removing, packages are purged.... BUT WHAT IS PURGING???!!11111oneoneone06:34
resiakDelph: Hi.06:34
Delphah, but dpkg has it.06:34
Delphresiak: hihi =:006:34
sigDelph: it is06:35
bad_mongodjm62, I use mshome.. but should I use WINS server?06:35
sig3.6 Removing unused package files: apt-get clean and autoclean06:35
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IIIEarspurgeing is what you do after a "binge" of package installations? - grin06:35
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sigIIIEars: hah06:36
djm62bad_mongo: unsure...06:36
dockaneis there any recommandation for a good printing/preview dialogue ? i am looking for somehting like the acrobat reader for window$ offers where i can add an option like " do not touch the page format" for printing pdfs06:36
sigdockane: acroread-plugin06:36
sighttp://ubuntuguide.org/#acroread06:36
sigworks well for me06:36
sigsudo apt-get install acroread06:36
sigsudo apt-get install mozilla-acroread06:37
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dockanesig, does not bring this option for printing like the win version06:37
BurgerMannharley luja06:37
grawNeed help: windows ntfs partition can only be accessed via shell but not from the graphical interface06:37
sigdockane: print preview?06:37
SeeleyUSMCAnyone here use wine to work with programs installed on their windows partitions?06:37
IIIEarsah well - having my root partition shown as mounted on the desk makes me nervous. (my poor windows machines are nearly defenseless and anemic)06:37
sigSeeleyUSMC: what unit are you with?06:37
SeeleyUSMCsig: 3/706:38
dockanesig, yes with "don't touch the page format" (<- poor translation from german)06:38
sigI was 1/506:38
sig033106:38
SeeleyUSMCsig: me too :)06:38
SeeleyUSMCOorah machineguns06:38
] BreliC[ahh, finally got tmsnc compiled and working06:38
signice06:38
IIIEarsAnother HUGE "THANK YOU" to the Ubuntu for their wonderful work! :)06:39
SeeleyUSMCsig: Ever been to leatherneck.com ?06:39
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sigSeeleyUSMC: yes06:39
FR500is it complicated to make the console look like the one in gentoo livecd? with the nifty background and everything06:39
IIIEarsSeeleyUSMC - I gave it a try - It always corrupted my display settings.06:40
IIIEarsgentoo ugh! (pops two aspirin)06:41
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sigFR500: linux is linux.... if gentoo can do it, it can be done in any other linux distro06:42
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drcodedHi all06:42
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topyliFR500: dunno, but many livecds have nice consoles06:43
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IIIEars(rexamines the possibility of being a Ubuntu zealot..) - lol06:43
drcodedany one can help me with shorewall?06:43
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drcodedI dont know why I can't go to internet06:43
doogieshi all06:43
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drcodedI did policy,zones.interfaces06:43
drcodedbut still computer B can't get into the internet06:43
IIIEarsdrcoded, - what are you seeing?06:43
wbeck81you appear to be able to connect to irc06:44
drcodedI can ping to 10.0.100.5  but not outside06:44
drcodedfor some how it dosnt forware the packges into internet06:44
IIIEarsdrcoded, - did you enable DNS for network sharing? - (dumb question i know you almost certainly have.)06:45
jhaigI'm having a problem with my keyboard and mouse in Gnome in 5.04.  I asked here a couple of days ago but got no answer, so I'm trying again.  Often (but not always) when I log into Gnome there appears to be a very fast auto-repeat on the keyboard and mouse.  When clicking on the menus I have to keep the button pressed or the menu disappears immediately and typing is impossible as several characters appear for each keypress.06:45
drcodedI have DHCP for internet06:45
drcodedDNS for network share06:45
drcodedI use the DNS of my ISP in computer B06:45
FR500drcoded, i don't know about shorewall, but firestarter is way to go06:45
jhaigThis only happens with Gnome - I can log in with the failsafe terminal OK.  Any ideas?06:45
FR500drcoded, it's very easy06:46
topylidrcoded: i messed with shorewall for a wile back in the day. ended up configuring iptables with firestarter. took 2 minutes06:46
djm62jhaig: have you tried System->Preferences->Keyboard/Mouse ?06:46
holycowjhaig, have you tried a diferent kb maybe?06:46
drcodedfirestater is easy then shoerwall?06:46
FR500drcoded, easier than windows ICS06:46
IIIEarsdrcoded, - the interface asks if you want to enable your machine as a gateway on the second interface and then you plug in  the other computers to the back of it.06:46
FR500drcoded, easier than zonealarm06:47
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jhaigdjm62: I've tried keyboard settings, but anyway it is a problem from a clean install and new user, so I doubt it is a settings problem.06:47
topylidrcoded: it's a wizard that asks you if you want to open something, if you want nat, if you want dhcp and that's it06:47
jhaigholycow: I haven't tried that, but I will do.06:47
drcodedI dont have gui  , console only06:47
topyliah06:47
djm62jhaig: have you googled your keyboard in case it's a common problem?06:47
holycowjhaig, i know it's dumb, just hoping maybe that you didn't overlook in frustration, i know how it is06:47
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holycowjhaig, i haven't seen this issue ever, and chances are no one else has either here since you didn't get an answer06:48
IIIEars<< Firestarter for debian - shorewall is for resource stingy servers06:48
serfurjwhat does the "+" mean in ndiswrapper-source 0.12+1.0rc2-1?06:48
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djm62O E M ubuntu06:49
topyliIIIEars: well, stingy servers are often debian :)06:50
holycowdjm62, why, thats not a bad idea indeedy :)06:50
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holycowhaha06:50
grawcan someone help me?06:50
holycowya when hell freezes over06:50
olorinjhaig: did ou try to change your keyboard ?06:50
iStevelol06:50
iStevedells with preinstalled ubuntu or debian06:51
LinuxJonesgraw, what's wrong ?06:51
iSteveyea sure, and satan will be skating to work06:51
holycowiSteve, hehe, skating, thats a good one :)06:51
iSteveunfortunately not mine06:51
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Plexysis there a GUI to manage running services on your system?06:52
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LinuxJonesPlexys, not at present06:53
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Plexysok thanks, linuxjones06:53
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holycowPlexys, mostly because a: its trivial to do via command line06:53
holycowand b: you wouldn't gain anything from a gui06:53
flodineare backports need guys06:53
LinuxJonesPlexys, you could probably install something like webmin to help out with basic stuff though I suspect06:54
Plexysokay, then how do i see all running services?06:54
holycowPlexys, sudo /etc/init.d/service start/stop/restart is easy enough06:54
Plexysi have that installed06:54
Tuxicityfloater, no dont put the backports is your repos06:54
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LinuxJonesPlexys, ps -aux06:54
flodinedo i need backport in my repository06:54
flodinethxs06:54
LinuxJonesPlexys, you can use lsof -i or netstat to see network services running06:54
Tuxicityflodine, np06:54
jhaigNew keyboard and still the same problem.06:54
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resiakholycow: Is gnome-system-tools in Ubuntu?06:55
holycowresiak, yep06:56
resiakholycow: So there's your gui right there.06:56
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resiakholycow: Oh, wait, it doesn't have a runlevel bit. Sorry :)06:56
holycowfor services?06:56
LinuxJonesresiak, it's not complete06:56
membreyawho here has successfully establish anon FTP with wu-ftpd?06:56
holycow:)06:56
abiertosresiak: thanks a lot for help me06:56
holycowLinuxJones, thats an interesting point, gst would be the right place for it *hmmm*06:56
resiakabiertos: Did you win?06:56
grawLinuxJones : windows ntfs partition can only be accessed via shell but not from the graphical interface06:56
abiertosresiak:finally I can enjoy the pleasure to be run06:57
resiakabiertos: \o/06:57
LinuxJonesgraw, have you checked out www.ubuntuguide.org ?06:57
abiertosresiak:to be root06:57
abiertosresiak: I'm not won06:57
abiertosresiak: you won, thanks a lot06:58
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resiakabiertos: Hey, whatever. I learnt how to do that on IRC too :-)06:58
LinuxJonesholycow, they are going to write a Graphical Services manager for the Breezy release06:58
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abiertosresiak: ok06:58
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holycowLinuxJones, no shit?06:58
holycowha! cool06:59
membreyawith Wu-FTPD, my anon user can login ok, but can't see any of the directories....06:59
abiertosresiak: can I download /etc/sudoers file from apt-get06:59
abiertosresiak:?06:59
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resiakabiertos: Did you remove it?06:59
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thechitowncubsIs there an audio player that automatically checks for new music in my folder? Or a playlist generator? Something of that nature06:59
resiakabiertos: I'll have to leave it up to the rest of the channel to help you with that, I'm afraid.07:00
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LinuxJonesholycow, I would like to get it started but there are alot of underlying issues that I don't fully understand with regards to debian's packaging system.07:00
grawLinuxJones : I mounted thge partition and added the hda1 (ntfs) line to fstab07:00
jhaigAnyway, if it were a keyboard problem then it wouldn't just affect Gnome, would it?07:00
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ShaneAuhey07:00
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seth_slackwarehey07:00
LinuxJonesgraw, I don't have any windows boxes so I can't really help dude sorry :(07:00
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holycowLinuxJones, like what? deb is simple from what i can tell07:01
ShaneAuWhy does everything seem slughish and slow (gui)07:01
abiertosresiak:ok07:01
resiakabiertos: All the best.07:01
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holycowLinuxJones, the hard part to me seems more the 'paperwork' in the process rather than the actual packaging?07:01
ShaneAuLike refersh rate really low, you move a window across the screen and yuo see a trail for a while07:01
ShaneAuIt's horrible07:01
abiertosresiak:I restored it now07:01
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LinuxJonesholycow, it's got to do with how dpkg updates the system when it installs the service.07:01
thechitowncubsrhythm box is really buggy07:02
holycowLinuxJones, speaking of guis, thats one thing i wouldn't mind having a gui for :)07:02
babylonhow can i force to close the frozen applications07:02
LinuxJonesholycow, yeah it's something that most other distros have :)07:02
thechitowncubswow, its really buggy07:03
ShaneAuAnyone?07:03
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ShaneAuIt's the main thing that annoys me about Linux :p07:03
ShaneAuSo maybe I can fix it?07:04
thechitowncubsShaneAu: specs07:04
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ShaneAuP4 1.7 GHz, 512 MB ram, NVIDIA TNT2 graphics card07:05
thechitowncubshow much memory in the gfx card?07:05
ShaneAu64 MB07:05
thechitowncubsk07:05
thechitowncubsAre you using Gnome?07:05
ShaneAuI used it with Windows for many years, lol07:05
ShaneAuyep07:06
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SeeleyUSMCgrr...dreamweaver mx doesn't seem to like wine07:07
ShaneAuDragging windows shows it the most07:07
thechitowncubsOk... try using the simple theme07:07
ShaneAuSeeing the trail of the window07:07
SeeleyUSMCand thats the only program I'd really like to use from windows...that and Quicken07:07
thegreedyturtleShaneAu - do you have your video card drivers installed?07:07
thechitowncubssystem>prefrences>theme07:08
ShaneAuSimple theme seems better, still kinda slugish07:08
ShaneAuno, I havn't07:08
ShaneAuBut I'm downloading them now07:08
thegreedyturtlethat's why ;)07:08
holycowSeeleyUSMC, check into crossover office07:08
thechitowncubsya... nvidia drivers improve it A LOT07:08
ShaneAuOh ok07:08
ShaneAuI'll give it a go07:08
SeeleyUSMCholycow: but that costs $... :(07:08
thechitowncubssame w/ windows07:08
ShaneAuthey are done downloading07:08
thechitowncubsmy windows sucked without the drivers07:08
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holycowSeeleyUSMC, yep, so does dreamweaver and quicken07:09
thegreedyturtleVESA drivers blow (the default drivers)07:09
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ShaneAuAhr ok :)07:09
thechitowncubsQuicken needs a linux version... and I wish apple would make Itunes compatible with linux (would it be hard to port since mac os x runs off unix)07:10
thechitowncubs?07:10
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holycowthechitowncubs, no, but bot apple and quicken are notoriously stingy in the cross platform dev stuff07:11
dennis_server rinet.msk.wenet.ru07:11
ShaneAuok I gotta exit X first07:11
dennis_\server rinet.msk.wenet.ru07:11
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thegreedyturtlei know there's some itunes stuff for linux07:11
ShaneAuThis is like my main time using Linux at home, so yeah... kinda embarrising, but how do I exit X ? :p07:11
holycowqucken infact stopped making their business version because they werent making enough sales, so linux version i'm certain isnot on their radar07:11
ShaneAuJust shutdown/.07:11
ShaneAu?>07:11
thegreedyturtleshutdown -r 007:11
ShaneAu:)07:11
ShaneAuThanks07:11
thegreedyturtleshutdown -r(estart) 0(seconds)07:11
holycowexit x? you mean to command line?07:11
thegreedyturtleuse -h for halt07:11
dennis_shutdown -r now07:11
ShaneAuyes07:12
plexxusHey! Its my first time with linux and ubuntu... is there a driver for nvidia graficcards available?07:12
thegreedyturtleyus07:12
ShaneAuWow07:12
holycowsudo /etc/init.d/gdm quit07:12
ShaneAuplexxus,07:12
ShaneAuAre you seriouse?07:12
thegreedyturtlehuh?07:12
ShaneAuSounds like me07:12
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holycowplexxus, its on the ubuntu website07:12
holycowplexxus, i mean the info for installing it07:12
plexxusoh.. :)07:12
ShaneAuI JUST downloaded http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7174.html07:12
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ShaneAuBut that's for TNT207:13
thegreedyturtlehttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/Official_nVidia07:13
ShaneAuanyways07:13
ShaneAuI'll be back07:13
plexxusive got a nvidia gforce 4 ti 460007:13
holycowShaneAu, just read the ubuntu website07:13
holycowthe install instructions are there07:13
plexxusdo i have to install special?07:13
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ShaneAuWow, so they are.. :)07:13
holycowdon't use the nvidia installer crap, it will install stuff everywhere and bypass dpkg07:13
ShaneAugood stuff07:14
thegreedyturtlehttp://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver07:14
thegreedyturtleit's easiest to use apt to get nvidia-glx07:14
thegreedyturtleyou should definitely get nvidia-settings too07:14
ShaneAuok too many options now07:15
plexxusthanx all07:15
ShaneAu:s07:15
plexxusive installed some nvidia stuff with the paket manager in gnome07:15
plexxusglx and settigs.. yes07:15
plexxusbut i cant change the resolution07:15
thegreedyturtleapt is the command line version of Synaptic Package Manager07:15
ShaneAuholycow, you say don't use the nvidia installer, but the ubuntu site says to07:15
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ShaneAunow07:16
holycowplexxus, the second part of config is giving x the correct horizontal and vertical refresh rates, those determine resolution possibilities for your monitor07:16
thegreedyturtleplexxus: you have to make sure that the resolutions in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf are there07:16
thegreedyturtleplexxus: be sure and back up that xorg.conf first, i made that mistake recently...07:16
holycowplexxus, google your monitor for refresh rates and put them in the file thegreedyturtle pointed to07:16
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plexxusi know the refresh rates ...07:17
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plexxusthere is no tool available for edit conf files..07:17
plexxusopenoffice maybe?07:17
holycowlots of tools07:18
ManLordgedit kate kedit07:18
holycowopen up a shell from apps/syttems/terminal07:18
holycowtype sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:18
stevenjcan someone tell me why no Gnome Icon theme will replace the freak'n volume in the gnome panel?07:18
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plexxus(sry for this question.. but iam new to linux and ubuntu).. a friendy gave me a cd where he puts the newest ubuntu on it..07:18
holycowstevenj, what do you mean exactly?07:19
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holycowplexxus, thats okay we're happy to answer provided your happy to do the work07:19
thegreedyturtleplexxus: you don't have to apologize! are you talking about the live cd?07:19
plexxusno.. no live cd..07:19
thegreedyturtleok07:19
plexxusive installed ubuntu on my harddisc07:19
plexxushe gave me the installation cd..07:19
plexxusinstallation was easy..07:19
thegreedyturtlejust checking ;) cuz it's hard to actually save your xorg to a cd!07:20
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stevenjholycow, I am using milk 2.1 and gnome-apple icons...for some reason the icon for the volume (right beside the time-upper right corner) will not change...I have tried many icon themes that I know is suppose to change it07:20
plexxusbut.. now i do not know how to get a grafics driver installed07:20
ivo_hello guys07:20
plexxushey ivo07:20
ivo_how do you put ubuntu in standby (to ram)??07:20
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burnerplexxus, what kinda card?07:20
ivo_i only see the hibernating option!!07:20
ShaneAuhumm07:20
ShaneAuerrors about cc07:20
ShaneAugcc07:20
thegreedyturtlehere, do it this way, you won't need to deal with that download you got from nvidia: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver07:20
FR500hmmmm doing the framebuffer console was real easy07:21
thegreedyturtleyou'll just use apt to download it07:21
FR500there are debs for it :P07:21
plexxusburner, g4 ti 460007:21
holycowstevenj, thats because the theme doesn't have icons for that widget set ... i think?07:21
ivo_how do you put ubuntu in standby (to ram)??07:21
ivo_how do you put ubuntu in standby (to ram)??07:21
plexxusburner, im completely new to linux..07:21
serverivo..thats annoying07:21
ivo_ow sorry, double post07:21
FR500ivo_, locate standby.sh07:21
FR500and run it07:21
ivo_okay07:21
holycowstevenj, don't forget milk was developed on older versions of gnome, hoary uses 2.10, maybe the theme needs some adjusting for it?07:21
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burnerplexxus, see what thegreedyturtle posted about ubuntuguide07:22
thegreedyturtleplexxus: go System -> Synaptic Package Manager, then run a search for nVidia, and marke for install nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings07:22
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plexxusplexxus, yeah.. i am reading now07:22
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thegreedyturtlehokay nm then :)07:22
holycowplexxus, well welcome to linux then, some things are harde, a lot of other things are easier, hopefully  you have  fun :)07:22
plexxusburner, i am reading now :D07:22
burnerheh07:22
ShaneAuI'm doing it with apt-get now :)07:22
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burnergood luck plexxus07:22
ShaneAuSo far it's looking good07:22
thegreedyturtlemy apt has super COW powers...07:22
plexxusholycow, thanks! i know that some things are new to me...07:22
=== burner never had to deal with video drivers as ati is shit and has no linux drivers for a radeon 7000 ;)
stevenjholycow, I see...thanks..any idea where I can start poking around? :)07:23
plexxusholycow, one thing is.. a friend told me that i have do recompile my kernel with the nvidia drivers.. but i dont know how..07:23
burnerplexxus, nah... shouldn't have to recompile07:23
stevenjholycow, or do you know of an updated milk theme (besides clearlooks :) )07:23
holycowstevenj, best i can do for ya is google and emailing the theme author :) sorry07:23
stevenjholycow, thanks07:24
holycowplexxus, no, hehe07:24
burnerstevenj, gnome-look.org ?  search around07:24
holycowplexxus, you don't recompile kernels with debian/ubuntu07:24
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thegreedyturtlesure you do, but you shouldn't have to07:24
holycowyou can if you want but ... the point of using debian is that  you don't haveto, pretty well everything is builtin and modular07:24
thegreedyturtleand if you do have to, avoid it XD07:24
holycowthegreedyturtle, no you don't shutup, hes a newb07:24
holycow:)07:24
thegreedyturtlehahahaha07:24
thegreedyturtleyou still gotta compile openMoxix07:25
holycowplexxus, heres a neat experiment you can do:07:25
thegreedyturtleMosix*07:25
plexxusholycow, i dont know how to compile something in linux..07:25
holycowinstall ubuntu/debian on an hd, then plug into any desktop you like07:25
holycowit will work 9/1007:25
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thegreedyturtleplexxus: don't listen to me im being facesious07:25
holycowthe only thing you will have problems getting going is x server, but thats becaus x server is still 'catching' up to where it should be, it's development stalled for a long time07:25
plexxusholycow, ubuntu is still working.. and im in this chat with xchat...07:25
holycowplexxus, you don't haveto know, you can learn it's not too hard07:26
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plexxusholycow, but there is this resolution problem :D07:26
holycowplexxus, me too07:26
ShaneAuWow07:26
ShaneAunice07:26
ShaneAu:)07:26
ShaneAuI love it07:26
plexxusholycow, but i will do this :D07:26
ShaneAu:p07:26
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ShaneAuHad a big Nvidia logo on startx07:26
kingsleyIs it OK to make some new disk partitions with MS FDISK and others with cfdisk?07:26
thegreedyturtleyou got it then07:26
ShaneAuAnd now things are running excellent (graphics wise)07:26
ShaneAuThanks!07:26
holycowplexxus, well give it a try, some people like me ditched windows immediately, some go back and forth, some don't like it, whatever suits you07:26
drcodedtgz how I extract07:26
thegreedyturtleyou can turn of that obnoxious nVidia thing too if you want07:26
ivo_i can't locate standby.sh07:27
ShaneAulol, what was that site you last sent07:27
ivo_is this a script?07:27
ShaneAuSomeone sent an address07:27
drcodedI dont remmber07:27
drcodedtar -xzv or somthing07:27
thegreedyturtleubuntuguide.com?07:27
thegreedyturtleerr .org07:27
ShaneAuIt was for beginners or something with a anchor07:27
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ShaneAu#nvidia_guid or something as the anchor07:28
ivo_anyone?07:28
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thegreedyturtlesearch for nvidia on it07:28
thegreedyturtleit's the only mention of nvidia07:29
ShaneAunever mind found it, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver07:29
plexxusthx. guys.. i have to restart now!07:29
ivo_does anybody know about ubuntu standby??07:29
netmonkivo_, what do you need it for07:29
thegreedyturtlei definitely reccommend scouring that site for tricks and tips07:29
netmonkok07:29
thegreedyturtleprelink is awesome07:29
ivo_they sad earlier to look for standby.sh but i can't find it07:29
netmonkivo_, you need either hibernate.sh or suspend.sh07:30
thegreedyturtlewhat are you doing ivo?07:30
ivo_hibernate is to harddrive?07:30
burnerivo_, yes07:30
Rhymeswhere can i find a breezy status page? something like a changelog, release notes and so on07:30
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burnerRhymes, google for "ubuntu breezy" :P07:31
Rhymes;)07:31
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burnerin any event, there isn't much yet07:31
ShaneAuAnd to exit gnome is just Ctrl Alt backspace, why didn't anyone mention that?07:31
ivo_how to get out of standby, powerbutton?07:31
ShaneAuSeems to have worked07:31
burneran updated irssi (from cvs)  new gtk, some libs07:32
ShaneAu:p07:32
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burnerivo_, good question, when you find out, let me know ;)07:32
cuscohi07:32
St0n3-C0lI heard Breezy got their chaintool or toolchain broken07:32
thegreedyturtleShaneAu: ctrl alt backspace is a heavy handed way to exit gnome, it literally kills off the Xserver07:32
plexxusive got another problem.. i have 2 soundcards in my pc.. how can i change between the soundcards?07:32
cuscoIm having a problem installing transcode07:32
ivo_burner, why do you say that?07:32
thegreedyturtlehttps://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DeveloperResources maybe Rhymes?07:32
burnerplexxus, using gnome's mixer app?07:32
ShaneAuOh.07:33
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plexxuswhats the command for this mixer?07:33
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Amaranthplexxus: Right click on the volume icon.07:33
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Amaranthchoose Open Volume Control07:33
Hoxzer:D no!07:34
burneryeah, what Amaranth said07:34
Hoxzernow I totally messed up my display adapter :D07:34
burnerplexxus, then check the menu to change cards07:34
plexxusk.. thx.. but it doesnt work..07:35
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plexxusive got a cheap creative and an audigy 2 in my pc07:35
plexxusthe sound form the cheap creative was terrible.. and stucks..07:35
plexxusi hate it..07:35
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Owner__good tip - i was looking for an add in card07:36
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plexxusbut the option in the mixer where i can change doestn work.. the sound comes also through the cheap when i took the audigy207:36
Owner__did Ubuntu recognize both right away?07:36
bur[n] erivo_: in my system, teh file for suspending is "sleep.sh"07:36
plexxusyes..07:36
cuscodoes anyone has transcode in the main repo?07:36
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Owner__Heh- my windows box was hacked again on IRC - so what else is new - lol07:37
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flodinewhy do you need headers for the kernel07:38
Owner__formerly - "IIIEars" - whay should i be surprised.07:38
St0n3-C0llol07:38
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plexxusi think gnome is the sweetest desktop i ever see..07:39
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HoxzerIm havin realy bad problems now07:39
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Hoxzeris there anyway how I can return my .conf as it was?07:40
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holycowHoxzer, what did you do and the answer is only if you have a backup of the file07:41
plexxushow can i change the resolution..07:41
Hoxzer:D07:41
Hoxzerwonderful07:41
Hoxzerseems I have to reinstal everything07:41
holycowplexxus, system / preferences / resolution07:42
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plexxusthere are only this standart resolutions..07:42
holycowHoxzer, good way to learn to always backup files before mucking about07:42
plexxusmy screen supports 1600x120007:42
holycowplexxus, did you change the v and h frequencies in your xorg.conf?07:42
plexxusbut the highest i can chose is 1024 x 76807:42
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holycowand added 1600x1200 resolution to the section underneath the frequence section in xorg.conf?07:43
plexxusdo i have to put a "1600x1200" in front of the "1024x768" ?07:43
holycowy ep07:43
kiunhello07:44
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holycowplexxus, oh forgot one thing07:44
holycowyou need to restart x server after you change that config file07:44
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plexxusahh ok :D07:44
kiunI'm spanish, I need help07:44
holycowdo that by doing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ... that will log you out and you will loose this channel07:44
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plexxusthere is another way ive read... strg+alt+backsp ...07:45
holycowsure07:45
plexxusis that also a way?07:45
holycowyep07:45
plexxusoh.. k!07:45
plexxusthx!07:45
topylidon't know how completely that starts gdm though07:46
topylirestarts even07:46
holycowcompletely07:46
holycowit's daemon, there is no other way to restart it07:46
topylii mean ctrl-alt-backspace07:47
topyliit kills x of course, but may not rerun all the init scripts07:47
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plexxusif i did the false settings.. is there a way to get in graphic mode with standart config?07:47
holycowoh yeah stopping gdm service is the cleanest way07:47
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zxcFirefox keeps randomly exiting by itself :/...anyone know why or have I just done something about 5 times07:47
holycowplexxus, x wont start if the settings are bad and will fall back to command line07:47
plexxusoh.. i dont know what to to in command line mode..07:48
holycowzxc stop watching those "really friendly girl" sites :)07:48
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topylizxc: happens here too when browsing porn07:48
holycowplexxus, well, unless you have a backup config file :) take a change, what the heck07:48
topyliummm... make that "graphical sites with lots of links"07:48
zxcholycow and topyli, damn, gonna have to switch back to windoze!07:49
zxcseriously though I was just on deviantart :/07:49
topyliyeah, windows does have its uses :)07:49
holycowrofl07:49
zxcwhy does it do it on "friendly girl" sites?07:50
zxc:/07:50
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topylizxc: i don't know why. i don't think it's a gecko problem because epiphany doesn't do it. it seems to be just firefox07:50
holycowzxc i was kidden :) rofl07:50
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FR500help!!!!! had a power failure, now at boot it says EXT3-fs error loading journal, after that i get kernel panic07:50
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ivokshi07:51
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prototyphi07:51
topyliFR500: calm down, boot from something, run fsck07:51
zxcah not too bad, epiphany for girl sites it is ;P07:51
DelphFR500: grab a live CD, boot off it, fsck the hard drive, hope for the best =:)07:51
FR500Delph, oks07:51
FR500thx07:52
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prototypanyone know of some nice tricks to force installation of packages?07:52
FR500fsck~=scandisk?07:52
topylizxc: then you can even bookmark them and people won't see your bookmarks in firefox :)07:52
DelphFR500: aye07:52
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Delphbut lacks the property that it restarts every ten seconds.07:52
Jimmothyi have a problem07:52
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Jimmothyx.org will no longer start after i fiddled trying to sort my resolution07:53
Jimmothyi'm on irssi from the backup thing07:53
topyliFR500: yes, and "hope for the best" means "check moon phase and wave a dead chicken on the keyboard"07:53
flodinewhats the latest kernel out for ubuntu07:53
holycowJimmothy, are you plexus?07:53
Jimmothyno idea what that is07:53
FR500topyli, what?07:53
resiakflodine: Are you really serious about asking that here?!07:53
prototyptopyli: LOL07:53
holycowJimmothy, nm then07:53
resiakGAH!07:53
zxctopyli, rofl, that's what I used to do with firefox on windoze xD07:53
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topyliFR500: in other words, "pray" :)07:53
resiakI must stop mistaking #ubuntu for #debian.07:53
Jimmothyhow do i start x.org?07:53
topylihehe07:53
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resiakDelph: You threw me off by being in here...07:54
flodineyeah mine is 2.6.10.507:54
holycowJimmothy, ideally you want to have a backup of your xorg.conf file, and copy that back overtop, then try again07:54
flodineim not a punk07:54
Delphresiak: i'm just in here for the comedy value.07:54
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Jimmothyoh good idea, how do i do that? i know i have one, i rememeber making it07:54
resiakDelph: Erm...07:54
holycowcp xorg.conf.back xorg.conf07:55
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danthemandoes anyone here use mail-notification?07:55
Delphresiak: of the questions, not playing sillybuggers with the answers.07:55
holycowthe first name is what you named it, the last name is the target, make sure you have your paths right and then just do startx to test07:55
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resiakDelph: Heh.07:55
Jimmothyok, brb07:55
holycowremember, its going to copy OVER TOP of the old xorg.conf file07:55
prototypvery nice copy/pasting my errors now07:56
danthemani'm having some problems setting up mail-notification to work with gmail07:56
danthemanthe notifier doesn't show up at all07:56
danthemanand it won't let me configure it agian07:56
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danthemani sent myself a test message, but it didn't show up then, either07:56
Munnusen puutteessa ostin itselleni IDE64:n. =D07:56
Munnuoops.07:56
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topylidantheman: are you sure it's running?07:57
ShaneAuAm i able to upgrade my firefox to 1.0.3 with apt-get?07:57
danthemani went to the applications menu and clicked on it07:57
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danthemanit didn't give me any information about what it was doing, if it started or not07:58
Jimmothyok that didnt' work, i don't remember the paths07:58
holycowlol07:58
holycowwhere is your backup file?07:58
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danthemani'm reinstalling the package now07:58
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topyliMunnu: kaada itsellesi vaan :)07:58
Jimmothyi presume its in the same directory as xorg.conf07:58
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Hoxzereverything went so well until I edited .conf file :D07:58
prototyphow do I force a certain package to install? kdelibs-data keeps bugging me with some dependency problem07:58
Hoxzerno way :D07:59
prototypwhich I'm unable to fix07:59
holycowJimmothy, cd /etc/X1107:59
Hoxzernow I have to install everything again07:59
holycowonce you are in there you can just do cp old.file.backup xorg.conf07:59
Jimmothygah i need a second terminal while i'm stuck07:59
Jimmothyok, brb once more07:59
holycowJimmothy, ctrl/alt/f207:59
holycowdon't log out07:59
holycowjust do ctrl/alt/f2 and login there07:59
Jimmothydidn't do anything07:59
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topyliHoxzer: that's hard to believe. reinstall?08:00
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danthemanis there another program like mail-notification for checking a gmail account?08:00
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HoxzerTopyli: yep08:01
Hoxzerim not sure but do you know how do I edit that file?08:01
Nomikosif I want to mount folders on Ubuntu from MacOS X on another computer, what do i have to install?08:01
Hoxzerwhen I cant visit in gnome08:01
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zxcThe application "Epiphany" has decided to quit unexpectadly, noooo my pr0n! :P08:01
HcENomikos: They all can use Samba08:01
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NomikosHcE: so I install Samba on Ubuntu?08:01
HcENomikos: yes08:02
jrochi there... has anyone here (a) used the POPfile mail filtering package and (b) had any problems with it since upgrading to Hoary?08:02
HcENomikos: and the use smbmount08:02
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prototypHoxzer: have you installed mc yet?08:02
FR500topyli, Delph thanks a lot08:02
Hoxzerno08:02
FR500it worked08:02
prototyptry it08:02
georgeshi. is anyone using ayttm ?08:02
Nomikosand on OS X, do I just go to network and it'll find it?08:02
HoxzerI haven't installed like anything08:02
Hoxzeronly bittorrent client08:02
zxcgeorges, I've tried it :/08:02
prototypno X needed to edit files08:02
georgeszxc: not happy wit hit?08:02
NomikosHcE: thanks, I'll try it out08:02
Hoxzeryeah, I can be in the console08:02
Hoxzerbut not into Gnome08:03
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Jimmothyso i cp'd my backup to xorg.conf but startx gave me bash: command startx not found, or similar08:03
zxcgeorges, wouldn't connect to msn messenger for me :/08:03
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georgeszxc: connects fine here08:03
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holycowJimmothy, weird, is that an ubuntu box?08:03
georgeszxc: using ayttm coming with hoary08:03
Jimmothyyep, hoary, new install freshly messed up today08:03
holycowJimmothy, oh08:04
holycowyou need to do sudo startx08:04
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Jimmothyoh haha08:04
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holycow:)08:04
Jimmothyok, yet more brb08:04
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zxcgeorges, I got in using apt-get I think :/08:05
topyliFR500: good. ext3 is hard to break with a power failure :)08:05
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topyliwell, so is ext208:05
IIIEars<< Back08:05
BockBilboolas08:05
BockBilbohello08:05
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danthemanis there another program like mail-notification for checking a gmail account?08:05
nuriaolas08:05
FR500topyli, being ubuntu my only os now it was scary for once08:06
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zxcgeorges, I just got it to work a bit better but there was an "Unknown error 92" and Msn connection "reset"08:06
topyliFR500: sure. because for a minute you don't know how badly broken the filesystem is. it may be genuinely gone08:06
BockBilbouis una chica en ste canal :P | wow, a girl in this channel :p08:06
FR500yeah08:06
BockBilbo:P08:06
IIIEarslol - actually logged into IRC with the redmond OS and samba connecting running on my other machine - Doh! - what was i thinking? - ROFLMAO08:06
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BockBilbohey nuria08:07
georgesOnly think I know is that I use may email adress as user and then the passport password08:07
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Jimmothyok, i have working x :)08:07
holycow*highfive*08:07
georgeszxc:  Only thing I know is that I use may email adress as user and then the passport password08:07
IIIEarscongrats!08:07
Jimmothy*highfives*08:07
topyliJimmothy: you can run X programs now! :)08:07
holycowi wish plexxus had better luck, didn't come back which means he will reinstall from scratch because he doesn't have any cli experience08:08
Jimmothynext on my priorities is sorting my resolution08:08
nuriajoe nadie en espaol08:08
Jimmothyi love irssi :) and i haven't installed beep-media-player yet08:08
holycowJimmothy, make another backup of your xorg.conf file just in case :)08:08
neofeednuria, #ubuntu-es?08:08
holycowlol08:08
IIIEarsXORG hell - i don't envy you.08:08
topylinuria: /join #ubuntu-es08:08
nuriaasias08:09
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neofeedhmm 'lets have a party' - is that correctly spelled?08:09
topylino08:09
Jimmothyonly problem with 640x800 is its so small!08:09
zxcgeorges, I think I'll have to stick with gaim for the near future ;) as aMSN is a pile of shit as well08:09
AlfaWolphlet's08:09
sash_Ubuntu rulez08:09
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neofeedhmm thanks AlfaWolph ... my english sucks :(08:10
topylicapital L08:10
Jimmothythe google logo is currently the size of a cockroach08:10
topyliheh08:10
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holycowJimmothy, basically all you need to do is find the correct vertical and horizontal refresh rates for your monitor, and put them into your xorg.conf file08:10
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georgeszxc: anyway I want to use it as yahoo messenger... it works fine (did so for years) but the webcam does not work. Wecam did work fine with gentoo.08:10
neofeedtopyli, 'Let's have a party'?08:10
neofeed[confused] 08:10
topyliyeah08:10
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holycowJimmothy, also adding maximum resolution settings for your moni in the section below will help08:10
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topylineofeed: that's a good sentence to begin your english training too :)08:11
ruukiaI am getting this at startup ...error:missing command to run.. someone plz help !08:12
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topyliruukia: does it boot ok?08:12
^vir^how do i go about changing the login screen in ubuntu i want to change to entrance (e17)08:13
ruukiatopyli, ya .. acutlaly i had firestarter installed, then i uninstalled it with apt-get remove .. but now this happens :(08:13
neofeedtopyli, well I can speak quite well. But the writing is a real handycap... But I can't even write my mom's tounge...08:13
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holycow^vir^, not sure, if you have gdm installed thatas your login manager.  does e17 actually have its own login manager that you can use?08:14
neofeed^vir^, you'd have to substitute gdm with elogin08:14
topyliruukia: you have a firestarter init script hanging around, and it doesn't find firestarter which it wants to run08:14
neofeedholycow, It does08:14
holycowah there we go, okay08:14
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plexxusHey! thx all!! Grafix WoRx nice!!!!08:14
neofeedit's called entrance.08:14
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^vir^i know08:14
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prototypanyone in here into kubuntu?08:14
PenguinBoyAfternoon guys!08:15
PenguinBoycan I get some assistance with GRUB08:15
neofeed^vir^, so edit the x file...08:15
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zygahello08:15
^vir^thanks08:15
BockBilboprototyp, #kubuntu08:15
topyliruukia: try purging the firestarter package, or in synaptic, "remove with config"08:15
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plexxuswhats a good (or the best) available mp3 player for ubuntu.. and how can i access my ntfs partitions ?08:15
zygacan anyone reccomend win32 app that is compatible with gnomemeeting?08:15
ruukiatopyli, ok i'll try that thx08:15
prototypBockBilbo: duh... thanks :D08:15
plexxussorry.. mp3 player for gnome08:15
holycowplexxus, welcome back, did it work?08:15
zxcgeorges, does it have webcam support?!08:15
ruukiai also spent quite a bit of time removing crap scripts firestarter left on my system08:15
topyliruukia: look in /etc/init.d if there is a firestarter script08:15
^vir^plexxus, xmms, rythembox....08:16
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plexxusholycow, yeah.. after some xorg.conf editing retrys it worked :D08:16
neofeed^vir^, you coult try to get help in #e, or #edevelop08:16
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drcodehi all08:16
holycowplexxus, *high five* nice :)08:16
ruukiatopyli, ya I already took care of the one in init.d08:16
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drcodeany one config shorewall?08:16
plexxusrythmbox says that he dont know what mp3 is08:16
georgeszxc: yes, but it's not working in ubuntu08:16
ruukiabut it has another running somehwere and it's really annoying08:16
^vir^install the w32codecs then08:16
plexxusholycow, yeah.. ubuntu rox tha world :D08:16
holycowplexxus, ubuntu website has info on playing mp3's and stuff like that08:16
wezzer-sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad08:16
topyliruukia: it might not be firestarter though, but it's one of the initscripts08:16
georgeszxc: ayttm has yahoo webcam support and is usable in gentoo08:17
^vir^www.ubuntuguide.org i think it is plexxus08:17
plexxusokaayy :)08:17
^vir^tells you how to mount ntfs08:17
^vir^:)08:17
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holycowplexxus, just so that you are aware, ubuntu cannot give 'free' mp3 support with the distro, mp3 is a patented format, and the patent holders want all players to pay them a royalty in order to be able to play mp3's08:17
georgeszxc: but in ubuntu I can only view my own webcam,. Others can't view mine and I can't view other's webcams (shows blank window)08:17
holycowplexxus, so you haveto manually download support your self for that reason08:17
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plexxusholycow, oh..08:18
ruukiatopyli, is there a way I can narrow down the scripts there to my problem ?08:18
topyliplexxus: holycow: you can of course also tell apt to download the codecs for you :)08:18
zxcgeorges, that sucks, tell the dev team! :P08:19
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holycowplexxus, yeah you will quickly find out just how hosed most people are in the marketplace wihtout knowing it08:19
^vir^plexxus, the site i gave you will tell you how to add mp3 support08:19
holycowtopyli, well thats sorta why i'm mentioning the site :)08:19
georgeszxc: where? forums?08:19
^vir^& other formats08:19
topyliruukia: bootlog perhaps, or just try and see what's being run in the boot sequence when the error appears08:19
holycowplexxus, also, now that you have a working xorg.conf, plz make a backup just incase08:20
holycowhehe :)08:20
topylihey, spider-man 1 is on tv. might as well see it08:20
Jimmothytime to mess up once more08:20
plexxusholycow, yeah.. i did backuped it.. because my editings dind worked 3 times..08:20
plexxusgrml..08:20
Jimmothymost likely back in a bit08:20
plexxusand the console started..08:21
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ruukiaok08:21
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kanuhacan anyone tell me why my hard drive is working overtime right now08:22
Tuxicitykanuha, updatedb might be running?08:22
kanuhait's just working away and I am not doing anything08:22
kanuhaTuxicity: how long does it take?08:22
Tuxicitykanuha, use command "top" and check it's near top08:23
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georgesfor some silly reason ubuntu starts updatedb quite late (or eraly in morning) so when I get up it's still running (160GB of files)08:23
plexxusi do not find the paket who aktivates the mp3 compatibility in rythmbox.. but i am installing now xmms...08:23
chombeeif I install KUbuntu on an Ubuntu system, will it automatically give me the Gnome/KDE choice on login?08:23
lcizzlewhat can I use to burn a DVD besides Nero, it wont install on my system08:24
holycowlcizzle, stay away from that pos08:24
holycowinstall gnomebaker08:24
holycowor k3b if you are on kubuntu08:24
holycownero sucks08:24
^vir^plexxus, http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs08:25
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kanuhaTuxicity: the on eat the top is amarokapp08:25
georgesI installed k3b on gnome. well it dragged lots of kde libs with it but I still have a gnome system08:26
plexxusthx vir :D08:26
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^vir^np plexxus08:26
XTCboarderi use gnmoebaker08:26
lcizzlewhich package should I download of k3b for ubuntu?08:26
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CB_can anyone suggest a good N64 emulator?08:26
XTCboarderbut i can't write to my usb dvd drive08:26
lcizzlenm08:27
holycowlcizzle, :)08:27
holycowlcizzle, hey ...08:27
lcizzle?08:27
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holycowif you are on ubuntu, donwload gnomebaker08:27
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^vir^i hope they make a eubuntu in the future cos enlightenment is great08:27
holycowk3b is for kde, and it will download all kinds of shit08:27
holycowtry gnomebaker first08:27
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Tuxicitykanuha, ok but is updatedb among the 1st apps listed by top?08:28
kanuhaI quit out of amarokapp on the taskbar and it my hard drive settle down08:28
kanuhaTuxicity: no08:28
Tuxicitykanuha, what's amarokapp for?08:28
kanuhaTuxicity: don't even see it listed08:28
lcizzlesigh08:28
kanuhaTuxicity: mp3 player08:29
lcizzleeveryone only has i386 binaries08:29
plexxushow can i do skripts (like batch skripts in windows) bcause i want do mount my ntfs partitions automaticaly...08:29
XTCboarderasnybody had trouble burning dvd's on a usb drive with gnomebaker?08:29
ruukiaexit08:29
Tuxicitykanuha, maybe it was building a playlist from audio files on your HD??08:29
XTCboarderi neet herp08:29
kanuhaTuxicity: maybe it was doing some kind of scan for files, but I already told it where to look08:29
Tuxicityplexxus, bash scripts08:30
kanuhaTuxicity: i'll see if it happens again when I load it08:30
plexxustuxicity, are u soad fan? :D  bash scripts? i only want to have files where i click on.. and they execute a script..08:30
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Jimmothyall sorted :)08:30
Tuxicitykanuha, since it's a KDE app, maybe ask in #kubuntu?08:31
Jimmothycopied over my old irssi folder too, so i have everything back08:31
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kanuhaTuxicity: ok, thanks08:31
plexxustuxicity, like mountD.(idontknow) and there is a script in what does mount blablabla08:31
Jimmothyholycow: thank you for your help. very appreciated.08:31
holycowno probs08:32
BockBilboanyone can tell me how to visualize the memory used by a process in shell?08:32
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Tuxicityplexxus, do you really need a script for that? just edite fstab?08:32
plexxusfstab ?08:32
holycowhopefully we will eventually have this x stuff all guified, it's just that x development was stagnated for like more than 10 years08:32
plexxusim new to linux and ubuntu08:32
holycowxfree dev anyway08:32
BockBilboplexxus, /etc/fstab08:32
XTCboardersudo gedit /etc/fstab08:32
CB_can anyone suggest a good N64 emulator?08:32
plexxusand there i can put mount command?08:33
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BockBilboplexxus,08:33
BockBilbonope08:33
BockBilboread the fstab manual08:33
kanuhaman ubuntu is great, with irc, howto and the forums, anyone can use ubuntu08:33
BockBilbo"man fstab"08:33
XTCboarderplexxus08:33
Tuxicityplexxus, not exactly but it will mount your partitions automatically every boot08:33
XTCboarderthere you set the fs's the system will mount no boo08:33
XTCboardert08:33
plexxusoh.. thats nice.. i see :O08:33
holycowkanuha, :) yep, welcome08:34
plexxusoh.. another question.. where can i change the boot settings..08:34
BockBilboXTCboarder, do you know how to show the memory usd by a process in  shell?08:34
Moderhow can I mount a partition that is krypted with blowfish?08:34
Tuxicityplexxus, as in?08:34
Jimmothyyou know, in a way i enjoyed experiencing messing it all up for a moment, and that i handled it fairly well.08:34
Modercrypted, sorry :>08:34
plexxustuxicity, as in????08:35
Tuxicityplexxus, what boot settings?08:35
IIIEarsplexus - in /boot/grub no?08:35
plexxustuxicity, the settings where i can change the boot sequece08:35
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XTCboarderno dude08:35
XTCboarderi'm very n00b08:35
holycowJimmothy, yeah the one thing abotu all gui stuff, is the out of sight out of mind problem, everything is fine u ntil somethign goes wrong and then  you have no skills to fix it.  cli isn't so bad imho08:35
BockBilboohmm08:36
BockBilbook;) thanks08:36
XTCboarder;D08:36
Jimmothyi love working with the terminal08:36
IIIEars(sheepish grin) - okay - (new linux user 96 hours can you tell?)08:36
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XTCboarderdo you know how to setup up a udb dvdrw so it can burn dvd's?08:36
XTCboarder:(08:36
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Tuxicityplexxus, sory but can you be more specific, I havent had much sleep :)08:37
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plexxussorry that i so silly to linux..08:37
Tuxicityplexxus, no no08:37
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plexxusbut its so much different to windows08:37
danthemandoes gcc not come installed on ubuntu by default?08:37
plexxusi have do to all the config in files..08:38
plexxusis.. a little bit confusing..08:38
lcizzledantheman: no, doesnt seem like it08:38
XTCboarderdantheman no08:38
Tuxicitydantheman, sudo apt-get install build-essentials08:38
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bpucciodantheman: no, apt-get install build-essentials08:38
holycowplexxus, you want to change the boot sequence?08:38
holycowwow!08:38
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XTCboarderplexxus what is it you need?08:38
holycowplexxus, mind me asking why?08:38
xukunI realy cant explain why but I,m getting this error all the time if I try to update: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.151). - connect (111 Connection refused)08:39
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plexxustuxicity, i want to change the boot sequence,... ive got windows on my pc and ubuntu, and i want that windows is the first boot option..08:39
holycowthats a very advanced request inded :)08:39
danthemanTuxicity: apt-get couldn't find the build-essentials package08:39
drspinplexxus: Linux is not confusing -- It's very logical -- you're just suffering from M$-sucks syndrome08:39
XTCboarderahhh08:39
Tuxicityplexxus, oh, ok08:39
holycowplexxus, oh thats your grub menu ... its in /etc/grub/grub.conf08:39
xukunwhy refused?08:39
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holycowjust change the order in which the os' are listed08:39
dazzedplexxus: edit /etc/grug/grub.conf and change order08:39
plexxusdrspin, yes :D08:39
XTCboarderhow do i install liloin ubuntu?08:40
XTCboarderit seems grub doen's like my computer08:40
lcizzledantheman: build-essential08:40
plexxusthx dazzed08:40
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xukunany body08:40
IIIEarswhy lilo? lilo needs to be "activated after any editing is done to it.08:40
Tuxicitydantheman, sudo apt-get install build-essential    (no 's')08:41
JimmothyJimmothy's linux quick tip: If you're going to be installing and/or breaking things, be prepared; be armed with a good album, a DVD maybe, or a good 'ol PS2 game. You may need to pass the time. :)08:41
drspinplexxus: find a good tutorial about the linux file structure -- it'll make using linux generally easier and help you understand things like file permissions and why things can be "quirky" to a windows convert08:41
georgesgrub does not like my PC either. or rather it's the bios. some issue of bios not recognizing big harddisks. I have put grum on a floppy08:41
XTCboarderIIIEars, cause grub doen's like my machine08:42
XTCboarderi get mem errors with it08:42
plexxusdrspin, okay! :D08:42
XTCboarderand kernel won't decompress right so no boot is done after all08:42
xukunany bobdy?  there is nothing wrong with my sources.list file but I still get refused errors08:42
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drspinXTCboarder: have you ran a memtest?08:42
XTCboarderyeah08:42
plexxusdrspin, i ll to my best in linux, but is really different, but in some aspects better than windows :D08:42
drspinXTCboarder: any errors?08:42
XTCboarderit gives me 4 errors en 4 especific bytes08:42
georgesXTCboarder: does the ubuntu live CD boot? does the knoppix CD boot?08:43
holycowplexxus, don't give up... one of the side benefits of learnign linux is you actually learn what windows is doing behind the scenes08:43
XTCboarderi don't know i have none of them08:43
XTCboarderbut slack and freebsd and all of them wins0x boot08:43
IIIEarsXTC - if you get into trouble and need to erase the boot sector or the entire disk check out the "dd" command EXAMPLE - dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdiskname bs=512 will erase the your disk08:43
holycowplexxus, believe it or not, windows does a lot of similar things in similar ways, tho a lot is just completely stupid08:43
XTCboarderonly ubuntu's don't08:43
drspinXTCboarder: If you have two DIMM sockets try swapping them -- if you only have one I'd suggest replacing it08:43
georgesXTCboarder: download one. always very useful. I recommend knoppix08:43
plexxusholycow, yeah.. i read this sentece u wrote on a forum.. lol :D08:43
Tuxicityxukun, maybe realted to gpg?08:43
holycowplexxus, rofl, no shit :) haha, weird, yeah i did indeed :)08:43
XTCboarderdrspin, but how can it be that it is the only disk that dies08:44
holycowgood memory08:44
Tuxicityxukun, related*08:44
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XTCboarderi even have hiren's and it boots perfectly08:44
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SalsaDoomAnyone have an audigy2 and having problems with the volume seeming to be muted?08:44
XTCboarderplus, it boots sometimes08:44
XTCboarderand sometimes it doesn't08:44
XTCboarder:p08:44
nydustwhat is the name of the apache2 lib that gives me mysql support?08:44
XTCboarderit's very erratic and funky nehavior08:45
XTCboarderso i think maybe is the booter and the booter is grub08:45
XTCboarderplus i installed lilo one time and rebooted about 3 times08:45
XTCboarderand all times was ok08:45
IIIEarsXTC, sounds like it is08:45
XTCboarderbut i installed it when i was installing ubuntu08:46
Jimmothymaybe you're hdd iusn't in the best condition if it isn't loading all the time08:46
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XTCboarderJimmothy,08:46
holycowXTCboarder, you may want to check your hardware before swapping out for lilo08:46
xukunTuxicity, sec maybe you get a point there08:46
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XTCboarderit's got nothign to do with the hdd, i get the same error with cd's or hd's boot08:47
plexxussalsadoom, if u get it worked.. pls give me a message, my audigy2 is also silent :08:47
IIIEarsyes - but if you are like me it isn't the first linux install/distro i tried some notably FreeBSD create virtual partitiions sda and grub/ubuntu doesn't like them08:47
xukunTuxicity, I h ave done this: gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B90708:47
xukungpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -08:47
SalsaDoomplexxus: ah, so its not only me. Pretty wierd eh? Its pretty hard to mess up emu10k1 soundcards these days.08:47
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plexxussalsadoom, ive got two soundcards in my pc, one is a creative cheap thing.. i dont know the name.. and one is a audigy2 platinum...08:48
xukunTuxicity, but I dont see if things whent wrong08:48
plexxussalsadoom, the cheap one gives some crackling stucking sounds .. terrible... and the audigy2 is quiet..08:48
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IIIEarsXTC - if your disk is in trouble with flaky looking partition sizes or sda virtual partitions google the "dd" comand - it is a lifesaver08:48
cyberixThere is know way to open new wmv files?08:48
plexxussalsadoom, i hate life without music :)08:49
cyberixs/know/no/08:49
XTCboarderIIIEars, !! that was chinese for me08:49
SalsaDoomplexxus: I suspect esd might be the culprit. Gimme a sec08:49
XTCboarder:p08:49
SalsaDoomplexxus: lol, yeah. No music hardcore sucks.08:49
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XTCboardercan you type that on pvo08:49
IIIEarslol - i know me too until a week ago08:49
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ianrogersCould I fit Ubuntu on an old 1GB drive I have lying around?08:49
XTCboarderi mean private08:49
XTCboardercause i gotta go lunch now08:49
XTCboarderianrogers, yeah08:49
nydusti get some errors on apt-get with the sourcelist. where do i get a correct list of sorces?08:49
XTCboardertry not using gnome08:49
ianrogers:-\08:50
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serfurjubuntu's wiki is too hard to edit08:50
serfurji gave up08:50
SalsaDoomplexxus: nope. Its not esd ;(08:50
ianrogersI had a problem while running a LiveCD on my iBook08:51
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mindmedicdo i need to insert a module to use a serial mouse?08:51
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xukunTuxicity, what can I do about it if its related with gpg?08:51
IIIEarsianrogers - did you try the apm= switches on boot up?08:51
plexxussalsadoom, i do not know what alsa, esd and that other stuff is..08:51
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ianrogersNo, I didn't try that08:52
ianrogersIt just loads a small window with like 2 lines of HTML in it08:52
SalsaDoomI hate ALSA! Its garbage code.08:52
serfurjactually, it's not too hard, it's just too much trouble08:52
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serfurjwiki's should be a snap to edit08:52
Tuxicityplexxus, there audio systems of linux08:52
IIIEarsWow that is odd - read reviews of Ubuntu running pretty well on everything but a dual processor g508:53
SalsaDoomplexxus: OSS is the original sound drivers for linux. The OSS/Free stuff in the kernel is generally lacking features. The commerical OSS is the only good sound you get in linux really. ALSA is bloated, buggy, unstable, slow and bad sounding. Thus, its the new standard.08:53
mindmedicSalsaDoom, don't use it then :)08:53
ianrogersIt's a LiveCD I'm using08:53
plexxussalsadoom, and whats the best now?08:53
mindmedicSalsaDoom, or write a better implementation...08:54
SalsaDoomWell... it should be deleted from the kernel tree and never touched ever again for anyone. In My Humble Opinion. ;)08:54
SalsaDoommindframe: I'll get right on that.08:54
LinuxJonesSalsaDoom, Alsa works fine for me :D08:54
SalsaDoomplexxus: ALSA is still best if you don't want to use commerical OSS08:54
DelphSalsaDoom: buggy and unstable are it being new and untested. Slow: it's built to be much lower latency than OSS. Bad sounding is just a bad driver on your end.08:54
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resiakSalsaDoom: Do you have some kind of script which expands "imho"?08:55
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SalsaDoomDelph: Buggy and unstable are acceptable, since its new. Latency is probably better, but test this: Load ALSA drivers, Play a game, watch your FPS. Load an OSS driver, you'll get better fps.08:55
DelphI tend not to use it to play games... If I want to play a game, then i'll use something designed to play games.08:56
Tuxicityplexxus, the one that works for you, that's all ALSA or OSS or ESD...08:56
Delphfoorandom linux install is currently not set up for using games, due to a total lack of support from hardware and software manufacturers.08:56
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mindmedicDelph, theres a lot to play on linux08:57
Delphmindmedic: there's... tux racer... gnome stones... nethack =:)08:58
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PathfinderNewbie here, can anyone explain why I get the error message : Failed to save....invalid URI, in screem? Am using Hoary64 and would like to solve this problem08:58
Tuxicityxukun, I'm not familiar with gpg. you may ask a "gpg guru"08:58
ChoubakaDelph: "total lack of support" isn't correct :)08:58
SalsaDoomUT2004, Darwinia, Doom3... etc08:58
ChoubakaFreeciv!08:58
mindmedicquake series, doom3, enemy territory08:58
ChoubakaAlso, hmm, Frozen bubble.08:58
IIIEarsI agree with mindmedic unreal series games run well and UT2K4 even includes a linux installer.08:58
Delphso... a few games have a linux installer.08:59
nydustapt-get hangs, how do i kill it?08:59
DelphHow many hardware manufacturers have linux drivers that work nicely.08:59
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mindmediccommercial stuff: http://www.holarse.de/?content=/spiele/kommerzielle/08:59
dazzedhey guys i got a friend on ubu....its recognizing his eth0 but he cant ping google..any suggestions!?08:59
chavoI play Half Life 2, Jedi Knight, Splinter Cell all with cedega.08:59
dr_willisdazzed,  can he ping the ip? if so - then its a dns issue.08:59
Delphcedega doesn't count.09:00
dazzednope dr_willis09:00
dazzedhes on a connection that works for windows09:00
LinuxJonesdazzed, sudo network-admin and select dhcp09:00
AlfaWolphdazzed, make sure he's got on it09:00
dazzedLinuxJones: hes on dhcp09:00
ChoubakaDelph: Of course it does.09:00
mindmedicj0 cedega isn't really linux gaming09:00
Delphit's to *work around* commerical vendors without support for linux.09:00
AlfaWolphan ip that is09:00
AlfaWolphah09:00
Delphthis is what I mean by 'total lack of support'09:00
LinuxJonesdazzed, that"s a network problem with the dns servers09:00
chavoDelph, whatever.09:00
^vir^Delph,  ati have started to support linux09:00
xukunTuxicity, where can I find a "gpg guru" ;)09:00
^vir^nvidia do aswell09:01
Delph^vir^: oh, the random binary lump that you have to hope works?09:01
LinuxJonesdazzed, or is he behind a firewall or soething ?09:01
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Delphhardly 'support'09:01
LinuxJonessomething*09:01
dazzedyes09:01
chavoWhat kind of support do you need to play a game?09:01
chavoI got your back man.09:01
dazzedLinuxJones: yeah hes behind a firewall i think he forgot about that09:01
SalsaDoomVendetta Online is a space MMORPG that has linux support.. its pretty fun09:02
DelphDecent direct rendering to the graphics card would be a good start.09:02
holycowdazzed, rofl :)09:02
holycowAlfaWolph, nice catch09:02
LinuxJonesdazzed, it's probably setup to drop icmp packets09:02
chavoYou must have an ATI card.09:02
IIIEarsdazzed - i installed two firewalls on the first try at ubuntu (Ex-Windows user paranoia) - try a reinstall. ubuntu has solid networking support.09:02
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azadhi, how can i add myself to a user-group?09:02
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DelphA good gameplaying system is one which is small, tightly integrated, and designed to do that.09:02
xukunany gpg guru here?09:02
chavoIt doesn't say anything about Linux support on the box.09:02
Jimmothyhow would i load gnome terminal and irssi in one command?09:03
DelphLinux is decidedly a *general purpose* operating system. The exact opposite to what you want.09:03
holycowDelph, i agree, gaming should be done on consoles09:03
DelphMost things well, but nothing brilliantly.09:03
SalsaDoomwell, you guys can keep your consoles.09:03
chavoDelph, linux is whatever "I" want it to be.09:03
plexxusthx all... bye!!!09:03
SalsaDoomchavo: yeh!09:03
holycowlater plexxus09:03
IIIEarschavo - yeppers! (wide grin)09:03
Delphchavo: yes. it will do what you want to do. It's just not going to be *efficient* at doing that. Because it's general purpose and customizable.09:03
dazzedyeah hes working on it now well get some more info in a seconds09:03
chavoI don't own a TV, let alone a game console.09:03
TuxicityJimmothy, gnome-terminal; irssi09:04
^vir^linux would be be a better platform for gaming if linus included a  proper HAL but he doesn't want hardware companies to make buggy code09:04
Jimmothythanks09:04
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holycowSalsaDoom, hehe, yeah well from an engineering perspective a game developer shouldn't haveto worry about 3 different sound servers, and god knows what kind of hardware support.  one card, one api to the media subsystems, and go and create conent09:04
calamarihi09:04
chavoWell, I'm not exactly a "gamer". All of the games I like work perfectly for me.09:04
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holycowSalsaDoom, but sure, some nitwit will make it actually work on a general 'os' as was mentioned09:05
azadhow can i add myself to a user-group?09:05
SalsaDoomholycow: Rubbish. The API should cover the sound servers, hardware, interfaces ,etc09:05
thegreedyturtleI totally disagree with the statement that gaming should be done on consoles.09:05
chavoI was pleasantly surprised at how well Half Life 2 runs.09:05
pixil9anyone have some advice on how to stop puking.. I drank a lot last night lol09:05
Delphchavo: same here. They just happen to work *a lot better* on designed platforms.09:05
pixil9i've puked 4 times today09:05
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LinuxJonespixil9, a Whopper with Cheese combo @ BK09:06
Delphpixil9: advice #1. Stop asking people on IRC for medical advice =:)09:06
Xappepixil9: apt-get remove hangover09:06
holycowpixil9, rofl09:06
chavopixil9, eat a hamburger09:06
pixil9lol09:06
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^vir^Delph, what you forget is consoles are becoming pcs now so a proper console system doesn't exist09:06
holycowXappe, haha09:06
pixil9i just had cereal and it came right back up :909:06
thegreedyturtleBut you are right about how software devs shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get the hardware to work09:06
pixil9:(09:06
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calamariI was working in the Gimp, typing some text in an "A" box.. I think I pushed like Shift R or Shift T or a letter around there (maybe Alt, or Ctrl by accident?).  Anyhow.. whatever I pressed completely closed the application without a trace.  It didn't ask me to save or whether I wanted to close or anything.. just POOF! gone.  Please help me figure out how to disable this "feature"09:06
holycowapt-get install brain09:06
IIIEarsIf there is anyone new to linux like me and feels like a they want a feeling for the potential of linux try "torsmo" it is a system monitor that transparently overlays a corner of the desktop - it is tiny resource stingy and ifinitely configurable - it will report on anything you ask it too.09:06
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Delph^vir^: yes. But they run operating systems that are designed for gaming. They're not operating systems designed for extensible configurablilty.09:06
holycowcalamari, its not a feature, it just crashed09:06
dr_willisIIIEars,  will it tell me the winning ?lottery  #'s for next week?09:07
holycowcalamari, you just did something it didn't like, try again09:07
BlissexIIIEars: interesting pointer, Ill have look.09:07
dazzedIIIEars: thanks for that advertisement...but this is an ubuntu help chat...lets stick to that...plus gkrellm does the same thing...and its more graphical (although i use both)09:07
holycowcalamari, if you find the exact keystroke and sequence to recreate it, post a bug on the gimp website please09:07
calamariholycow: so it's gimp then?  badly programmed?09:07
IIIEarsyou can find it in synaptic a few minutes bending a script and you will will see why linux is so addictive09:07
thegreedyturtleBut you dont *need* an operating system designed for gaming.09:07
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flex_root@ubuntu:/home/flex # apt-get install dchroot debootstrap09:07
flex_Reading package lists... Done09:07
flex_Building dependency tree... Done09:07
flex_E: Couldn't find package dchroot09:07
Delphthegreedyturtle: but you agree that an OS designed for gaming will be a LOT better at it.09:08
flex_how do I get dchroot09:08
pixil9IIIEars, Thanks I've been trying to find this program for a long ass time.09:08
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^vir^Delph, the xbox was designed to take the place of a console & yet it performs poorly & gta san andrios on the ps2 is bad aswell09:08
IIIEarsdazzed - ya got me stuttering - lol09:08
abelliciao, does someone here know what burning app is going to be supported in ubuntu?09:08
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dazzedIIIEars: why does torsmo make linux so addictive...they have things like that for windows...and has nothing to do with the linux way of computers09:08
holycowcalamari, on the contrari, gimp is extraordinary and i've done commercial work in it.  there are bugs in all software, it's something you need to expect.  even pshop has bugs09:08
calamariholycow: thanks .. at least it wasn't something I pushed then :)09:08
calamariholycow: yeah.. usualyl when an app crashes (at least in Windows) I get some kind of dialog box or explanation09:08
Delph^vir^: uhh, yeah. But a bad example of an implementation is not sufficient to disprove a generalisation of an idea.09:09
TuxicityJimmothy, wait, I think i misunderstood your question09:09
madman_just a quicky, can a stock install of ubuntu access NTFS partitions?09:09
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IIIEarsfirst its free second you can change it to be want *you* want it to be. (wide grin)09:09
holycowcalamari, if you started gimp from command line, you would get an error message too.09:09
thegreedyturtleDelph: I agree that an OS designed for gaming will be better at it, but not a *lot* better. It's the hardware, man. Consider, the Xbox runs nothing but a stripped down version of Windows 2000. Why is it more powerful than a PS2? 'cuz MS threw a better processor and more ram into it!09:09
Delphwhat CPU does an xbox have? somewhere around a celery 700, yes?09:09
calamariholycow: hmm.. sounds like I need to write a wrapper program for cases like this, then :)09:10
Delphand incidentally, windows2000 is no better a model for a gaming OS than linux.09:10
^vir^yes madman_  but it won't be able to write to ntfs & you gotta tell it to mount the drive but yeah basicaly it does have out of the box support for ntfs09:10
holycowcalamari, lol perhaps :)09:10
JimmothyTuxicity: i'm considering adding gnome-terminal and irssi -! to start up, that's why i need them in one09:10
bsmith_has anybody experienced a long delay between invoking gkrellm and having the window appear?09:10
thegreedyturtleDunno, the real reason that it runs equiv to a computer is beacuse it's only got to run at 640 by 400 or whatever a TV is09:10
thegreedyturtleresolution*09:10
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madman_thanks ^vir^ appreciated :)09:11
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Xylene|Linuxanyone know how to remove something from the gnome applications menu?09:11
^vir^Delph, only consoles that are like consoles are the hand helds09:11
thegreedyturtleDelph:  I think we are going to start hitting a lot more games that run cross platform with the uptake of C# in gaming development.09:11
Xylene|Linuxi installed fvwm and some other wm's, but i think it was something with fvwm that somehow added this debian menu to the application menu in gnome and i have no idea how to get rid of it09:11
IIIEars^vir^ - you just saved me some money.09:11
^vir^madman_, see ubuntuguide.org so you know the mount command09:11
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thegreedyturtleDelph: But I don't know if C# is worth using for now, it's still got that overhead that game devs want to avoid.09:12
Delph^vir^: Linux, Win2k, etc... are based on multi-user, multi-app kernels, that do lots of memory protection etc... A good gaming system, well designed, would run entirely in ring0, forgetting about protected mode context switch overheads, and whole big heaps of other related junk.09:12
TuxicityJimmothy, ok but you want irssi to start inside the gnome-terminal, is that it?09:12
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holycowXylene|Linux, go to ubuntu website and find info on gnome menu editor, install it and thank Amaranth for that cool tool :)09:13
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drcodedd2Hi all09:13
drcodedd2I did it09:13
^vir^Delph, you just summed up a handheld basicaly09:13
JimmothyTuxicity: yeah09:13
drcodedd2I setup the shorewall09:13
Xylene|Linuxthanks holycow09:13
holycowdrcodedd2, not again? *sigh*09:13
drcodedd2it now work09:13
Delph^vir^: uhhm Yes.09:13
holycowdrcodedd2, j/k!!!09:13
DelphThey do what they do *very well*09:13
holycowXylene|Linux, no worries09:13
Amaranthholycow: bleh, i quit a game so i could see why someone said my name :P09:13
drcodedd2is there any backup software that is open sorce09:13
drcodedd2I can use as client server09:13
holycowAmaranth, rofl :)09:13
drcodedd2I mean to install it in linux as server and connect to it with client?09:13
^vir^Delph, lets face it the console market have tried stepping up to the pc market with things09:14
holycowdrcodedd2, yes, bacula seems pretty cool09:14
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holycowcheck out bacula.org, and the packages are all in repositories09:14
thegreedyturtleDelph: I think that this is something we'll disagree on, because you seem to want your game system to do games really really well. There's nothing wrong with that in and of itself, but I don't *want* my 200 dollar system do be so simple. I want email and DVDs and mp3s and it to whiten my teeth while I sleep, and our difference is I'm *willing* to give up preformance for that overhead.09:14
holycowthere is a windows client as well09:14
drcodedd2thanx09:14
drcodedd2I will check it09:14
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drcodedd2btw:If I want to format ext3 /dev/hdb09:15
Delphthegreedyturtle: so to return to the start of this argument.... linux is going to have a performance hit over consoles. =:)09:15
drcodedd2How can I do it?09:15
Xylene|Linuxholycow, i installed that program but it doesn't show the menu. would you like a screenshot of what it is on the menu?09:15
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thegreedyturtleDelph: I won't disagree with that!09:16
^vir^i do agree that Delph  is partly right a default linux\mac\win is bloated with unneeded rubbish09:16
flex_is there a way to add media to apt-get so I can get dchroot?09:16
kanuhacan anyone tell me if http://www.kde-look.org/ is up?09:16
holycowXylene|Linux, alt/f2, type in menu-editor09:16
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Delph^vir^: and it's going to be hard to add in a properly configurable, abstracted, fast, extensible way support for all these gaming-related objects without the support of the manufacturers themselves.09:17
holycowXylene|Linux, menu editor will show up in apps / system tools when you either restart gnome or restart gnome panel09:17
^vir^its up kanuha09:17
chavokanuha, works for me.09:17
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thegreedyturtlehow do i edit mime types again?09:17
kanuhaI get a could not be found error09:17
drcodedd2I dont see bacula windows client09:17
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^vir^Delph, as soon as linux becomes more of a desktop machine i'm sure companies will start supporting linux09:18
dazzed_how do u kill a ghost screen name09:18
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drcodedd2k09:18
drcodedd2found09:18
holycowbacula-client  <-- whats that?09:18
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LinuxJonesdrcodedd2, you can use fdisk /dev/hdb or you can install a graphical tool like gparted09:18
holycowdrcodedd2, enaable universed and sudo apt-get update09:18
Xylene|Linuxholycow, that didn't work. i am uploading a screenshot of the menu i am getting09:18
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drcodedd2thanx09:19
holycowXylene|Linux, what didn't work?09:19
drcodedd2fdisk will format it as ext309:19
holycowif you installed menu editor, then you can use it no?09:19
^vir^Delph, tried e17 yet?09:19
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LinuxJonesdrcodedd2, yeah if you tell it press l and it will list the available types I think it's #8309:19
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Xylene|Linuxholycow, when i run the menu editor it doesn't show the menu i am trying to get rid of,http://img200.echo.cx/img200/5301/debianmenu7fe.jpg09:21
Xylene|Linuxerr http://img200.echo.cx/img200/5301/debianmenu7fe.jpg so you can click it09:21
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holycowXylene|Linux, debian?09:21
Xylene|Linuxyeah09:21
holycowrofl09:22
Xylene|Linuxit wasn't there before09:22
nydustwhat packages do i need for to get mysql to work with apache2?09:22
LinuxJonesXylene|Linux, that's the old crappy/useless Debian Menu :D09:22
holycowokay well first your in the wrong channel,  but is that gnome2.10 or 2.8?09:22
Xylene|Linuxi installed fvwm and i believe that's when it started showing up09:22
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nydusti cant find any libapache2-mysql package in apt-cache search09:22
Xylene|Linuxwell i figured i could ask here, but ok, it's 2.1009:22
holycowsecond if it's 2.8 you can't get rid of it,  you can only empty the contents of the submenus09:22
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Xylene|Linuxit was right after i installed fvwm it started showing up09:23
holycowoh not sure then, theoretically its gone from 2.1009:23
XTCboardernydust search for mysql09:23
XTCboarderand view the list09:23
nydustXTCboarder, i have09:23
XTCboarder:/09:23
holycowXylene|Linux, try the #gnome-debian channel on irc.gnome.org and #debian here09:23
Delph^vir^: no; how many people support it =:)09:23
Xylene|Linuxbleh, i'd rather reinstall ubuntu all together than ask those pricks in #debian anything09:23
Xylene|Linuxthey're the biggest bunch of snobs on the planet09:23
nydustXTCboarder, but i dint find any packacges named apache and mysql09:23
LinuxJonesXylene|Linux, lol09:23
XTCboarderlibapache2-mod-auth-mysql09:23
holycowXylene|Linux, hehe :)09:24
FR500my desktop icons and wallpaper don't show after restarting xserver09:24
nydustXTCboarder, its installed09:24
Xylene|Linuxyou know it's true!09:24
FR500what can i do?09:24
holycowXylene|Linux, they only get a bad rep because of 2 or 3 idiots, too bad they don't ban for poor attitude09:24
XTCboarder!!09:24
LinuxJonesXylene|Linux, it's been 3 years since I left #Debian and I don't plan on ever going back09:24
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holycowthe rest are cool and very helpfull09:24
XTCboarderlibapache2-mod-php409:24
XTCboarderand mysql for php409:24
XTCboarderthat's the way09:24
Xylene|LinuxLinuxJones, heh, yeah, i used to use debian and go in there for help, i after a while i just said screw it and used gentoo, those people are much friendlier09:25
XTCboarderphp4-mysql09:25
XTCboarderthat's the one nydu09:25
XTCboarderst09:25
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^vir^well Delph i'm using it without any probs its nice when its finished i bet you any money most will convert over it looks like it could be as good as mac os if not better09:25
Xylene|Linuxis there like a big config file for the gnome menu?09:26
XTCboarderu alive?09:26
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Delph^vir^: I shall believe it when I see it =:)09:27
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darklingIs there a known problem with breezy acting as an NFS server?09:28
holycowdarkling, expect problems first because its unreleased ...09:28
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holycowdarkling, second you shouldn't be using ubuntu as any type of server, its based on debian unstable and thats just asking for trouble09:29
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darklingholycow: I am expecting problems. I just wanted to know if there was a well-known problem with it.09:29
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holycownever mind that ubuntu has a 'server' dealy at the beginning of the install09:29
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darklingIt's not a "production" server.09:29
holycowdarkling, nothing off the top of my head09:29
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darklingI'm just sharing filesystems round my home network.09:29
holycow*nod* just mentioning, in case of the noob factor09:29
holycow:)09:29
darklingHeh.09:30
xukunare there many peaple using breezy, and ist wise to upgrade now?09:30
holycowxukun, no and no09:30
darklingxukun: Probably not, and no. :)09:30
holycowin that order09:30
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dazzedxukun09:30
dazzedno09:30
dazzedlol09:30
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xukunpoint taken09:30
blackbird_hello, i have a simple question at least it looks simple, how can you connect to an external usb 2.0 drive?09:30
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blackbird_in device manager i can see the name of the drive but how to reach it?09:31
holycowblackbird_, plug it in09:31
dazzedblackbird_: plug it in?09:31
holycowit will appear as a link on your desktop09:31
blackbird_it doesn't do that09:31
dazzedblackbird goto /media09:31
holycowbad file system?09:31
dazzedsee if its there09:31
blackbird_it's ntfs09:31
dazzedull have to mount it09:32
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drcodedd2any one setup bckula?09:32
holycowlol i was about to ask, i had that once, i didn't have time to rectify it09:32
holycowdrcodedd2, not yet unfotunately09:32
blackbird_but how do you mount something? it's not in the /media09:33
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blackbird_sorry first time i try this ;)09:33
montsehi09:33
drcodedd2mount /dev/cdrom /any dir09:33
dazzedu see th dev in your /dev right blackbird?09:33
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montseem podeu dir en quin canal  estic09:34
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holycowmontse, what language is that? i don't recognize it09:34
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smoucheportuguese I think09:35
xeroxHi! I have a problem: trying to freezing (via the logout menu) a laptop didn't worked, it completely stopped and I forced a manual poweroff.  Then, hotplug doesn't work anymore!  If some file was corrupted.. is there a way to reinstall that subsystem?09:35
montseI speak catalan. I want to know in which place am I09:35
blackbird_i'm checking, if i can find an explorer lol09:35
dazzedblackbird_: first do this for me goto a term and type 'lsusb' and see if it picks it up09:35
wwalkerI installed ubuntu yesterday from ISO.  Today I ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to can any fixes.  It din't upgrade anything.  Are there really no updates at all for HH?09:35
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blackbird_he does find 2 things09:36
blackbird_1 my hard drive 2 my mouse09:36
xeroxWhat if I'll do "apt-get --purge remove hotplug" and "apt-get install hotplug", would I lose some important configuration? If so, how do I reconfigure it?09:36
dazzedblackbird_: to mount type this sudo mount /dev/*usb dev* /mnt -t ntfs -o umask=0222'09:36
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xukunI dont get update in days now09:36
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dazzedblackbird_: "mount /dev/*usb dev* /mnt -t ntfs -o umask=0222"09:36
SeeleyUSMCHow do you change the login screen's picture?09:37
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dazzedblackbird_: btw you know you cant write to ntfs from ext*09:37
holycowSeeleyUSMC, system / admin / login screen09:37
LinuxJonesxerox, no you should not have to configure anything but that might not be your problem. Have you searched the forums ?09:37
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xeroxLinuxJones, no :( But I think I can't go that way - here's what I get: "The following packages will be REMOVED: gnome-volume-manager hal hal-device-manager hotplug hwdb-client ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop udev"09:38
xeroxLinuxJones, would it be safe to try? :-\09:38
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SphearionSamba question :  http://www.pastebin.com/275430 - can someone tell me why the movies and television share will NOT let me access them?09:38
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LinuxJonesxerox, you can try it but I would remove ubuntu-desktop as well then re-install that and it should re-install all of the dependencies for you.09:39
blackbird_hm09:39
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blackbird_should it place an icon or something?09:39
dazzedSphearion: dont get me started on samba...it hates people09:39
dazzedno youll have to direct yourself to where u mounted it09:39
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xeroxLinuxJones, also, I get "hal       8475  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        Z    21:39   0:00 [40-hal-hotplug-]  <defunct>" in the process listings.. maybe that's the problem.09:40
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wwalkerI installed ubuntu yesterday from ISO.  Today I ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade to catch any fixes.  It didn't upgrade anything.  Are there really no updates at all for HH?09:40
kanuhahelp, I need help with a hard drive09:40
dazzedwwalker...have u setup ur sources list09:40
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LinuxJoneswwalker, there have been no updates for Hoary that I can remember sine it's release09:40
LinuxJonessince*09:40
blackbird_i have done something wrong i think ;)09:41
dazzedblackbird did you do it to /mnt?09:41
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dazzedjust goto nautilus and point it to /mnt09:41
dazzedand it should be there09:41
LinuxJonesxerox, that's not looking good :D09:41
Madeyeguys, I have weird issue, there is a site I can ping and traceroute, but I cant http it?09:41
FR500what pack in synaptic is the kernel source?09:41
blackbird_there's nothing in it09:41
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DelphMadeye: maybe it isn't running a http server...09:41
Xappenice, i got myself an ubuntu logo instead of the gnome foot next to the applications menu09:41
NaliothMadeye perhaps they are not running httpd?09:41
blackbird_i opened the terminal and typed that sentence09:41
blackbird_then checked /mnt09:41
dazzedblackbird_: goto a term and make sure u typed specifcally what i told you09:42
mcphailMadeye: you may have a nameserver problem09:42
blackbird_do i need to type the " aswell?09:42
IIIEarshow can i add an application to the menu09:42
Spheariondazzed, well if you know what the problem is, a bit of advice would be nice :)09:42
dazzedblackbird_: and after you hit enter did it give you an error or return u to another comman line09:42
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xeroxLinuxJones, what can I do?09:42
dazzedblackbird_: no "09:42
Delphmcphail: unlikely if it can resolve the site for ICMP lala.09:42
blackbird_gave me a bunch of text09:42
mcphailDelph: not at all. Same discussion the other day on ##linux09:42
Thorrn4hello FELLOW UBUNTU USERS!!!!!!!!! I have switched to Ubuntu (it is my 2nd Distro; Ive been using Linux for a Month now!!!)09:42
LinuxJonesxerox, your running Hoary right ?09:42
Madeyemcphail,  can you check this please http://www.easyhttp.com/jad/2005/04/error-haloscancom-and-me.html09:42
dazzedSphearion: one day i woke up and my samba wont even load past the Microsoft Windows Network icon...i gave up on it ... after months of it working fine and nothing changed09:43
blackbird_will typ it again09:43
Delphmcphail: what situation with nameservers would lead to ICMP messages getting through but not tcp ?09:43
xeroxLinuxJones, right09:43
Spheariondazzed, ahh I c09:43
TuxicityThorrn4, wooooohoooo :D09:43
dazzedblackbird_: sudo mount /dev/*usb dev* /mnt -t ntfs -o umask=022209:43
xeroxLinuxJones, /etc/init.d/hotplug restart -- and magically my usbdisk paritions were mounted, and opened in gnome09:43
Naliothyes, windoze has a way of changing its mind whenever the mood strikes it09:43
mcphailDelph: Some guy had 2 named nameservers. Only worked for http when they were in the correct order. Don't know why. He could ping etc.09:44
bsmith_can i configure ubuntu's login screen so that a user can choose a window manager to launch?09:44
wwalkerLinuxJones dazzed Thx.  I just figured I had soemthing broken.  I'm pointed at us.archive.ubuntu.com/hoary-updates.  I get the apt datbaase, just wan't anything to download09:44
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jazzkahi!09:44
dcravenIIIEars: there is a menu editor in the forums.09:44
XplOzIonHelp: problem with nautilus, when i close it it does open again09:44
Delphmcphail: any more details on how the nameservers were setup?09:44
jazzkawhich is your favourite font for gnome-terminal?09:44
LinuxJonesxerox, I don't know if it is worth trying but can you boot to another kernel just to make sure it's not some issue with that particular kernel + your hardware ?09:44
holycowdazzed, perhaps you guys upgraded xp to latest service pack or something? hehe :) i read somewhere xp changed something in samaba yet again09:44
kanuhahelp, I need help with a hard drive09:44
dcravenbsmith_: are they not all listed unders sessions in gdm?09:44
DelphMadeye: can you "telnet hostname.com 80" and type rubbish in and see if it throws back a response?09:45
dazzedholycow: im serious like i used it the NIGHT BEFORE went to sleep woke up and now its no go...and my NFS doesnt work either09:45
xeroxLinuxJones, sigh, it WAS working. Freezing & manual rebooting fscked it up.09:45
MadeyeDelph, wont respont to telnet I have tried it09:45
Tuxicitysee you all tomorow09:45
dazzedit just stalls when it tries to load workgroups09:45
dr_willisim useing XP and Service pack 2. haveing no hassles with samba. :P09:45
blackbird_doesn't work09:45
dcravenjazzka: I like Monospace 10.09:45
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skyriderI've created local Ubuntu repository but apt-get refuses to use it because it is not signed. :( How can I sign it, i.e. what tools should I use to create Release and its signed version?09:45
mcphailDelph: he had one pointing to his router (i.e. correct) and one pointing to an old ISP nameserver which couldn't be resolved via his current ISP. Only worked when he put the router address first.09:45
blackbird_i do notice when i plug the hd in and out there is a quickbutton "sda1" appearing but disappears again 2 seconds later09:46
bsmith_dcraven: hmm, i didn't see the option, but perhaps09:46
IIIEarsThank You dcreaven - (i apologize for not seeing your message sooner.)09:46
dr_willisi also tend to make linux users with the same username and password on the xp and linux box's and i also am sure to add a smbpasswd for the linux users.09:46
dcravenbsmith_: that is where it is typically.09:46
MadeyeDelph, telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out09:46
dazzedblackbird_: are u trying to mount /dev/sda109:46
dr_willishttp://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/  - a Must read book on samba09:46
bsmith_dcraven: if they weren't, where would i configure gdm to recognize them?09:46
dazzedis that what u typed?09:46
dcravenIIIEars: busy channel.09:46
LinuxJonesxerox, argh maybe something did get corrupted, try removing --purge hotplug and re-install again like you were going to try09:46
dcravenbsmith_: they are there.09:46
xeroxLinuxJones, I'll try without --purge the first time09:47
dazzedblackbird_: do this for me ...goto your removeable devices/storage option in ur menu...and untick and tick every box that has to do with mounting usb dev....and then unplug the usb dev and plug it back in09:47
LinuxJonesxerox, don't worry you won't mess it up09:47
IIIEars530 is very large - must be something to this "Ubuntu" - eh? 9wide grin)09:47
LinuxJonesxerox, by purging09:47
xeroxLinuxJones, even if "ubuntu-desktop" is listed in the package to be removed?09:48
xiaogilAbout preg_replace(), how to change my pattern '/abc/i' so that it's only replaced the first time it is found by my replacement string ?09:48
IIIEars<< just realized my keyboard prefers water over soda. - sticky keys09:48
xerox(With a *, tough)09:48
LinuxJonesxerox, yeah that's ok09:48
bsmith_dcraven: okay, thanks09:48
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Naliothxerox you can always replace whatever from command line09:49
LinuxJonesxerox, just install that (ubuntu-desktop) once you have removed hotplug and it will re-install everything for you09:49
DelphMadeye: even if you use the IP?09:49
IIIEarsbsmith has a nice IP address - impressed09:49
xeroxLinuxJones, I'm doing it09:49
dazzedblackbird_: u try that?09:49
Thorrn4I have a questions; I just newly installed Ubuntu on my system; is the account that I created the root account? because I opened the root terminal with my current password (I dont remember if the install process asked me 2 create a root account or a normal account)09:49
xeroxI'd better reboot now, thanks much, let's see what happens.09:49
LinuxJonesxerox, hopefully that will fix you up :)09:49
blackbird_doesn't work: i am in the /media map, when i unplug my usb and plug it back in a map appears with sda1 (with a small red cross in it) but it's gone again after a few seconds09:49
xeroxLinuxJones, I hope so, thanks anyway09:50
mcphailMadeye: what do you have in /etc/resolv.conf ?09:50
blackbird_i tried what you said doesn't work yet (trying with 2 different drives both ntfs)09:50
dazzedblackbird_: u tried what i said?09:50
NaliothThorn4, ubuntu uses "sudo" like OSX does for your power needs09:50
blackbird_yep09:50
MadeyeDelph, No, stuck at trying Trying 72.9.234.77...09:50
dazzedhmmm09:50
dazzedits gotta be somethign with the drive then if u cant manually mount it and gnome cant do it for u09:50
DelphMadeye: then you've probably got some crazy filtering in the middle.09:51
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MadeyeDelph, but I can ping and traceroute09:51
blackbird_well one drive is a maxtor one touch09:51
DelphMadeye: yes09:51
blackbird_i can see it named as one touch in device manager09:51
DelphICMP ping and traceroute are *not* the same packet as a TCP connection to port 80.09:51
DelphIt's possible to block one and not the other.09:51
SeeleyUSMCAnyone here have an XBOX and Close Combat: First to Fight?09:52
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Epixhello.09:52
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Delpheg your ISP might let you ping anything ,but not connect to that ISP over HTTP or something.09:52
MadeyeDelph, then How to check if is from my side/ my ISP side/ Haloscan itself?09:52
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Epixcan i change my WM in ubuntu? I want to use Flux.09:52
dcravenEpix: install it, then choose it from gdm.09:53
DelphMadeye: no idea09:53
Delphask your ISP ask haloscan itself.09:53
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Jet2k5dcraven, you around?09:53
orpWM?09:53
Delphthe packets are presumably just getting blackholed somewhere between here and there09:53
Epixdcraven: what gdm does ubuntu use?09:53
IIIEars"Window Manager"09:53
dcravenJet2k5: periodically.09:53
orpyes you can09:53
Jet2k5dcraven, awesome09:53
dcravenEpix: I think there is only on gdm, no?09:53
Jet2k5dcraven, I'm having some issues with the windows pluggins to play .wmv09:53
Jet2k5dcraven, I got totem-xine and w32codecs. and I can't seem to be able to play them09:54
Epixdcraven: i think theres a few09:54
orpEpix you can09:54
MadeyeDelph,  anyway thank you, I have sent email to my ISP and haloscan09:54
Thorrn4can someone help me answer my question?09:54
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xeroxNothing :-(09:54
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orpjust apt-get install fluxbox09:54
dcravenEpix: 2.6.0 is what I have here.09:54
Epixdcraven: ok09:54
blackbird_when i plug it in i get the sda1 map so he must find something09:55
blackbird_i suppose09:55
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IIIEarswhat is the "apt" command to refresh the database?09:55
blackbird_(the map is gone again after a few seconds so can't click it)09:55
LinuxJonesThorrn4, the root account is locked by default09:55
dcravenJet2k5: I don't do Windows crap so I'm not sure, sorry.09:55
orpapt-get update09:55
Epixwell, atm im used to Debian. i admin a small server running it. but i want to make my workstation linuxy.09:55
dcravenIIIEars: apt-get update?09:55
ryman_how do I empty trash ?09:55
IIIEarsAh - Thank You orp.09:55
xeroxLinuxJones, Sigh!09:55
LinuxJonesxerox, :(09:56
dcravenIIIEars: man apt-get09:56
Thorrn4oh, ok LinuxJones, thank you09:56
xerox10598 ?        Z      0:00 [40-hal-hotplug-]  <defunct>09:56
xerox10607 ?        Z      0:00 [40-hal-hotplug-]  <defunct>09:56
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IIIEars"" - dcraven. (linux user for 92 hours now - grin)09:56
LinuxJonesxerox, check the forums I am sure you not the only one with that problem09:56
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orpIIIEars mate nex time make apt-get09:57
Epixand, i have a HP printer connected to my copmputer by a lan. the computer plugs right into the lan. i needed to use the CD to intall it on my win box, but can i print from ubun09:57
blackbird_any more idea's dazzed? ;)09:57
orpand it gueave you options09:57
Thorrn4is there a built in firewall in Ubuntu that will load everytime the system loads?09:57
dcravenIIIEars: nice.09:57
IIIEars< have been online for about 7 hours today alone - linux is addictive09:57
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dazzedblackbird_: nope :(09:57
] BreliC[anyone know which setting i have to tweak in Apache so that the domain name appears instead of the IP?09:57
squareffis there any possibility to set xkb to generate two (or more) symbols by just one keystroke?09:57
] BreliC[in the URL bar i mean09:57
dcravenIIIEars: you should stick around and help some newbs ;P09:58
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LinuxJonesThorrn4, you can use iptables but there is a nice gui called firestarter that you should probably use09:58
orpand some one now how sniff a switch network?09:58
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blackbird_i do have a cdrom cdrom0 floppy and floppy0 (don't know if they are supposed to be twice in it)09:58
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geargolemenable dri in mesaglide/ hoary?09:58
maltecdrom and floppy are only symlinks09:58
IIIEarsdcraven - Will i ever have to reboot this computer? it's eerie it just goes and goes - Windows was -never- like this.09:58
malteblackbird_, ^--09:58
dazzeddo u only have 1 cdrom and floppy?09:58
dazzedoh well yeah theres supposed to be 209:59
dcravenIIIEars: only to boot into a new kernel.09:59
dazzed0 and no numbers is the same09:59
maltelrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    6 Mar 15 15:33 cdrom -> cdrom0/09:59
nufanWhat file controls the default file manager?09:59
Jet2k5dcraven, well it's not generally only windows I get the same thing with other formats like .avi09:59
IIIEarsamazing.09:59
blackbird_i don't have a floppy at all ;)09:59
blackbird_(it's a laptop)09:59
maltenufan, in gnome?09:59
nufanYes09:59
dazzedwell my floppy doesnt work or mount but it still picks it up09:59
nufanI want to change natilus to enlightenment09:59
maltenufan, there should be something like "preferred applications" somewhere in the config menu10:00
LinuxJonesThorrn4, there is a setup it will ask you questions when you first run Firestarter10:00
geargolemHow to enable dri on mesaglide/hoary?10:00
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nufanmalte: that has 'Web Browser', 'Mail Reader' and 'Terminal' is all10:00
blackbird_certain i'm doing something wrong, 2 different drives and one touch is a know external drive so i reckon it should work no?10:00
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KKXXhow to nokia 6100 and linux?10:01
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dazzedwell if ur doing what i told u both ways...then its nto you10:01
dazzedits the drive10:01
blackbird_i typed the exact sentence in my terminal and gave me a lot of text (no errors)10:02
kanuhahelp, I need help with a hard drive10:02
mcphailWhich is the best repository for XFCE? the one with hoary or the one from os-works.com?10:02
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geargolemenable DRI in hoary?10:02
Naliothit10:02
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Thorrn4LinuxJones, is iptables built into Ubuntu10:03
Xappehmm, where is bin2iso? i can't find it in the repos10:03
Nalioth's all greek to me, my ubuntu box is an Apple iBook10:03
dazzedblackbird_: what kinda text10:03
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dazzedit should just send u straight to a nother term lin10:03
dazzede10:03
maltenufan, oh, my bad. then i dunno10:03
NaliothXappe do you mean bchunk?10:03
NigelSThorrn4: naturally10:03
KKXXludzie kto z kraju hihhih10:04
XappeNalioth: i mean the too to convert cue/bin to iso10:04
LinuxJonesThorrn4, it in the kernel yeah but it uses the cli or write a script to tell it what to do10:04
Xappe*tool10:04
blackbird_"a device can be given by name, say /dev/hda1"10:04
blackbird_etc10:04
NaliothXappe i believe the app is called binchunker or binchunk or something like that10:04
Thorrn4I never knew that....I very new 2 Linux10:04
kanuhaIs this a correct command in fstab for a fat32 drive ?  /dev/hdd1       /spare          vfat    unmask=000      0       010:04
dazzedthat means your dev isnt even getting established10:04
LinuxJonesThorrn4, install Firestarter it's very easy to use10:04
blackbird_for many more details, say man 8 mount10:04
blackbird_that's the last sentencde10:04
blackbird_-d10:04
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dazzedblackbird_: did u do that 'lsusb' thing10:05
XappeNalioth: ah, ok. I thought it was bin2iso, thanks10:05
nufanAnyone know how to change the default window manager?10:05
blackbird_yep10:05
dazzedwhen they are plugged in10:05
LinuxJonesThorrn4, >> http://www.fs-security.com/10:05
dazzedwhats it return10:05
blackbird_Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0d49:7000 Maxtor10:05
Thorrn4what is the root password?10:05
dr_willisnufan,  you mean to cange it in gnome? or change the default to KDE or Fluxbox for the user to login to?10:05
dazzedhmmm10:05
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orpRFM10:05
dazzedi dunno what to tell u blackbird_ sorry10:05
nufanNatilus --> Enlightenment10:05
geargolemHow do enable sharks with frickin lasers on their heads in hoary?10:06
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NaliothXappe Thorrn4 the root pwd is your pwd10:06
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dr_willisnufan,  Hmm Natulus is a file manager.. and Enlightenment is a Windowmanager.. 2 different things.10:06
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dazzedgeargolem: /enable/sharks-with_lazers10:06
blackbird_i will continue searching then ;)10:06
Epixhmm... isnt there no root in Ubuntu10:06
NaliothThorrn4 the root pwd is your pwd10:06
nufanwillis: Sorry10:06
geargolemthanks dazzed10:06
flameshi, how can i mount a ext3 particion to /data writeable by all users? i try this (fstab): /dev/hda6 /data ext3 defaults 0 0 but i can't write as normal user10:06
blackbird_thanks10:06
geargolemdazzed, how about dri?10:07
Epixand can Ubuntu be multiuser?10:07
LinuxJonesThorrn4, you use sudo -s (enter your user password) to get to a root console10:07
dr_willisflames,  for an ext3 partion you need to chmod all the files and dirs i do beluve10:07
Thorrn4so in the terminal...Im already a root? or no?10:07
XappeNalioth: ehm?10:07
nufanI'm not exactly intelligent in these things :P10:07
dr_willisEpix,  yes. easially.10:07
LinuxJonesEpix, it is10:07
dcravennufan: If you want to change Metacity for Enlightenment, you should be able to pull it off with "killall metacity && enlightenment&"10:07
NaliothXappe try this here dmg2iso  http://vu1tur.eu.org/tools/10:07
dr_willisEpix,  just add more users. :P10:07
Epixok, but there is no root.. only sudo?10:07
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XappeNalioth: i'll try bchunk first10:07
NaliothXappe you are now better off for burning stuff10:07
dr_willisEpix,  ther is root. its just sort of locked down.10:07
dazzedflames_: sudo mount /dev/*dev* /mnt -o umask=022210:07
nufandc: Thanks, but how would I change it back to Metacity?10:07
LinuxJonesEpix, root is locked10:07
dcravennufan: then save your session when you logout, and it will become default.10:08
Epixdr_willis: how is it locked?10:08
noizhave the ubuntu 5.04 cds shipped yet, or when will they be shipped?10:08
Nalioththe dmg2iso is for idiot apple users who put their stuff out in "disk image" format instead of rar zip iso, etc10:08
dcravennufan: killall enlightenment && metacity&10:08
kanuhaflames, try /dev/hda6 /data ext3 unmask=000 0 010:08
nufanaaaah10:08
geargolemhi dcraven,  enable dri in hoary?10:08
nufanI'll try that10:08
flamesumask not work (only fat)10:08
dr_willisEpix,  you cant directly login to root. :P but thats easially changed.10:08
dcravengeargolem: huh?10:08
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mcphailnufan: I can help you change window manager (I think), but not file manager10:08
Epixdr_willis: can you sudo su?10:09
flamesdrwxrwxrwx    2 root root  4096 2005-04-24 20:08 data10:09
geargolemHow can I enable DRI in Hoary, dcraven?10:09
kentHas any one installed wordpress from ubuntu? I want to know what step is needed to make it fully work. Or more excactly, to make it use translations. I saved a .mo file in wp-includes/languages/  but I cant get it to use it :(10:09
stazichhey, is anyone using WindowMaker in ubuntu?10:09
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dcravengeargolem: It probably depends on your video hardware.10:09
dr_willisEpix,   yes.. or you could 'sudo passwd'  :P and set the password for root.10:09
Thorrn4what would I do? "apt-get install firestarter"?10:09
kanuhaflames: thanks you solved my problem10:09
flames?10:10
dcravenwife wants attention... biab10:10
Epixdr_willis: haha. so its designed with newbies in mind?10:10
LinuxJonesThorrn4, do you have the universe repository enabled ?10:10
kanuhaflames: I had unmask instead of umask10:10
nufandcraven: It came up with the box about editing start up files10:10
nufanI don't want to do that without knowing how to change it back10:10
mcphailnufan: you can change window managers in the configuration editor10:11
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noizhave the ubuntu 5.04 cds shipped yet, or when will they be shipped?10:11
blackbird_ok you can't play a dvd with a clean install of ubuntu? ;)10:11
nufanmcphail: Where is that?10:11
Thorrn4what is that LinuxJones?10:11
LinuxJonesblackbird_, www.ubuntuguide.org see restricted formats10:12
geargolemdcraven, SiS 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter10:12
Epixhow big is the Ubuntu community and how long has it been around?10:12
Naliothblackbird no dvd, mp3 or other 'closed' formats10:12
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LinuxJonesThorrn4, that is a repository with thousands of applications like Firestarter in it10:12
Epixand how do they afford to give out free CDs?10:12
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mcphailApplications -> System Tools -> Configuration editor -> desktop -> gnome -> apps -> window manager10:12
elmayathey are rich ppl10:12
LinuxJonesThorrn4, goto www.ubuntuguide.org it tells you how to add the repository10:12
dcravenEpix: Quite big, ~6 months, and the founding father is a gazillionaire.10:12
wdhdoes anyone know wether pci 3200 ddr ram fits in a motherboard which uses 2700 ddr ram by default?? is there any form of backwards compatibility there?10:13
LinuxJonesEpix, because Mark Shuttleworth is a millionair 500 times over :)10:13
LinuxJonesmillionaire*10:13
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thegreedyturtleThe CEO of canonical was the guy who payed x million dollars to go to space10:13
EpixLinuxJones: and what happens if he dont want to support the project anymore10:13
dcraven20 million.10:13
piloanybody an idea why my ubuntu freezes two of three boots with starting the hotplug-system? the pc is about six years old and has no strane hardware in it i think *g10:13
Xappeif you can afford space travel, you can afford shipping some cd:s10:13
nufanmcphail: thanks muchly10:13
nufanI'llt ry that10:13
thegreedyturtleThen the community suppourts it10:13
Epixok10:14
dcravenEpix: like most other distrobutions.10:14
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holycowEpix, i think they mostly do it for the third world countries ... internet connectivity is abysmal in africa for example, 56k is considered a luxure in lots of places and when available is very inconsistent.  cheaper to send cd than dl10:14
thegreedyturtleCanonical just gives ubuntu a kick in the pants for it's suppourt10:14
Epixso it does have a good community base10:14
thegreedyturtleCanonical doesn't actually own or maintain ubuntu10:14
blackbird_oki thanks10:14
thechitowncubsI have a problem on my Dell Inspiron 1100, the display only shows video in the center of the screen, but the reso. is set to 1024x768... I have read somewhere that I need to specify the monitor model but where can I do that?10:14
blackbird_need a reboot, brb10:14
holycowEpix, not only that, you can buy support from canonical i believe10:14
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dcravenEpix: check out how many people are in this channel alone.10:14
Thorrn4where can I find this "universe repository enabled"?10:15
Epixdcraven: noice10:15
thegreedyturtlethechitowncubs: in your xorg.conf file, be sure and research before you diddle with it, and back it up as well10:15
thechitowncubsisn't there some sort of xorg config gui?10:15
Epixdcraven: and will it run fastishly on a AMD athlon 1GhZ10:15
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dcravenEpix: not to mention the #kubuntu and multi-language channels... And people who don't do IRC.10:15
LinuxJonesEpix, he is in it for the long haul :)10:15
kanuhaThorn: this will answer almost all of your questions.  http://ubuntuguide.org/10:16
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dcravenEpix: I run it on that same setup. Runs faster on that than this 2.8GHz Celeron.10:16
thegreedyturtlethechitowncubs: there's some autoconfigurators out there, but they run from the command line with a terminal 'gui'10:16
thechitowncubsIf you have already upgraded to BIOS A29 (or newer), then you won't have any trouble Redhat 9's XFree86 hardware autodetection. Just remember to specify the monitor type when asked, or run redhat-config-xfree86 after installation has completed. The monitor is a "Dell 1024X notebook display" and you must specify it.10:16
kanuhaThorrn4: this will answer almost all of your questions.  http://ubuntuguide.org/10:16
preglowi'm trying to install breezy, and get an error with package base-files trying to overwrite /lib64, which is also in package lsb-core, any pointers on how to fix?10:16
thechitowncubsThats what I was reading10:16
mcphailAnyone using Xfce?10:16
Naliothpreglow are you jumpng the gun a wee little bit?10:16
Epixi hate windows... network connections are so wierd... I WANT TO GO ifconfig eth0 up/down10:16
preglowNalioth: i might10:16
Epix:P10:16
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FR500where is the kernel source installed?10:17
preglowbut i really want gcc4, damnit :P10:17
Naliothpreglow i havent even found the repository addy for breezy10:17
thechitowncubsthegreedyturtle: what do you think I should do?10:17
dcravenFR500: /usr/src10:17
Epixhow big is a standard ubun install10:17
preglowNalioth: it's the same as before, just s/hoary/breezy/10:17
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Naliothpreglow, ok10:18
dcravenEpix: you have more questions than the 5 year old next door.. haha10:18
kanuhaanyone known why I can't seem to get to www.kde-look.org/  when others say it is up?10:18
danthemanEpix: 1.8 gigs10:18
dcraven;)10:18
Thorrn4to download Firestarter, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/firestarter.html ....which file choice, do i choose?10:18
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Epixlol10:18
Naliothalthough i'm sure i'll break the pixels right off this ibook if i up to breezy.. .. ..10:18
dcravenEpix: why is the sky blue?10:18
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kanuhaanyone known why I can't seem to get to www.kde-look.org/  when others say it is up?10:19
thegreedyturtledcraven: because blue is the longest wavelength of visible light10:19
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LinuxJonesThorrn4, don't install from Debian repositories10:19
thegreedyturtledcraven: techically the sky is all colors, but they all mash together and get overlayed by the blue10:19
FR500dcraven, should there be a linux-2.6.10 dir there?10:20
dcraventhegreedyturtle: yeah yeah ;P.. In a channel of geeks I knew someone would actually answer, then we'd debate.. lol10:20
FR500there is not in mine}10:20
Epixdcraven: because of certain gasses in the stratosphere10:20
thegreedyturtleXD10:20
thechitowncubsAh, I found the soltution10:20
thechitowncubson the forums10:20
dcravenFR500: if you want the source, install the linux-source package from apt.10:20
thechitowncubsi love the ubuntu forums10:20
neofeedliroth, well... Okay so once you are here I hope you can figure out how to get the help of the community. I really need my sleep. Good night bud!10:20
FR500i did10:20
noizhave the ubuntu 5.04 cds shipped yet, or when will they be shipped?10:20
FR500dcraven, i did10:20
svyatogorhi people! a small and dumb question. i decided to try ubuntu, but without gnome bloat, so I installed piece by piece with openbox env. now the question - how do I get OpenOffice use those nice gtk2 widgets? (yes, openoffice.org-gtk-gnome is installed!)10:20
LinuxJonesThorrn4, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:20
EpixFR500: or, if you just want the kernel you can get the kernel-image package...10:21
dcravenFR500: then there is a source tarball there right? In /usr/src?10:21
dcravenFR500: the source is in that tarball.10:21
FR500dcraven, only rpm dir10:21
dcravenFR500: doh?10:21
FR500yes10:21
LinuxJonesThorrn4, when you get those changes made to the config file it's sudo apt-get update && apt-get install firestarter10:22
thegreedyturtlethechitowncubs: sorry it took so long to track this down, but after you backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file run the command dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:23
mcphailBlue sky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffuse_sky_radiation10:23
thegreedyturtlethechitowncubs: ah, i see you found it10:23
thechitowncubsya10:23
dcravenFR500: sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.1010:23
thechitowncubshttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22936&highlight=inspiron+110010:23
dcravenFR500: I'm sure that gets the source tarball... So I thought.10:24
thegreedyturtle:)10:24
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Thorrn4LinuxJones, in the Root Terminal?10:24
FR500dcraven, did exactly the same10:24
FR500now it's there, only appears as root10:25
FR500sorry about that10:25
LinuxJonesThorrn4, open a terminal and type that command in then enter your user password when prompted10:25
melodiedoes someone know in Hoary installer : ntfsresize v1.9.4 belongs to ntfstools or ntfstools-udeb package ?10:25
dcravenFR500: only appears as root? That's even weirder!10:25
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FR500as fakeroot10:25
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Thorrn4LinuxJones, "su: Authentication failure" I used the same password10:26
dcravenFR500: well that's interesting.10:26
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venkmanhow do i apply the linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.10 to my current linux-source-2.6.10 without using kpkg because i don't want to compile.10:26
FR500lol10:26
LinuxJonesmelodie, apt-cache search ntfsresize comes back with ntfsprogs10:26
LinuxJonesThorrn4, your in the account that you used to install Ubuntu ?10:26
dcravenDoesn't linux-source already include the patchset?10:27
LinuxJonesThorrn4, no it's sudo10:27
nydustwhy dont i see the icons on my desktop, i have enabled it in the configuration editor10:27
deconwhy is it that ubuntu is so crappy at updating its apps ?10:27
Thorrn4yea, LinuxJones the same account; the only account10:27
LinuxJonesdecon, because it's frozen as stable10:27
venkmandcraven does it?10:27
dcravennydust: by default, there are no icons there until you put them there.10:27
melodieLinuxJones: ntfsprogs is not in the list of packages in Bugzilla10:27
dcravenvenkman: I'm not sure, but I've always assumed so.10:27
nydustdcraven, i have alot of icons, it was there but not anymore10:27
melodieI write unknown and that's it  :)10:28
deconLinuxJones, that means :P?10:28
venkmandcraven: how about getting my current kernel config file?10:28
dcravennydust: try to kill nautilus so that it restarts.10:28
LinuxJonesdecon, there are only updates for security/serious issues with any software in the Stable version10:28
dcravenvenkman: I don't understand that question.10:28
venkmannm10:29
dcravenvenkman: your current config is in /boot10:29
venkman./boot/config-2.6.10-5-k710:29
melodieLinuxJones: yes it is! my mistake, and thanks10:29
LinuxJonesmelodie, :)10:29
dcravenvenkman: Okay. You found it.10:29
deconLinuxJones, Okay its becuz why dont I get the "new" firefox 1.0.3 :S? i think its pretty weird10:30
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nydustdcraven, strange it worked, but it doesent work even i i restart x10:30
nydustseems like it always hangs10:30
LinuxJonesdecon, let's hope they find a major bug in the version in Hoary so that it will be updated :)10:30
dcravennydust: it works if you type "killall nautilus"?10:31
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deconLinuxJones, sorry im pretty new to all this hehe :) please tell me more if you want of cuz ;)10:31
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Thorrn4can someone please just help me? I just want to know how to install Firestarter, "apt-get install" Firestarter does not work10:31
AiroHey, is wine supposed to be in the repo?10:31
AiroCan't find it10:32
LinuxJonesdecon, have you checked out www.ubuntuguide.org there is tons of great info for the new Ubuntu user10:32
FR500i was following an fbsplash howto and it says i need ncurses-devel, but that is not in any repositories10:32
FR500arghh this is getting to complicated10:32
LinuxJonesThorrn4, it's firestarter not Firestarter10:32
Vaniliahow i can open .bin file?10:32
mcphaildecon: it is easy to add firefox 1.0.3 - just not by apt-get10:32
deconLinuxJones, yes i have... and i've added all the mirrors or what you call it :) but i think WEIRD that it doesnt show firefox 1.0.3 or gaim 1.2.1 in APT :S10:33
LinuxJonesVanilia, if it's a program to install jsut cd to the directory and sh file.bin10:33
dcravenAiro: it's in universe.10:33
deconmcphail, inn0 :)10:33
Thorrn4root@dynamo:/home/roger # apt-get install firestarter10:33
Thorrn4Reading package lists... Done10:33
Thorrn4Building dependency tree... Done10:33
Thorrn4E: Couldn't find package firestarter10:33
Vaniliaok10:33
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Airodcraven, still can't see it tho10:33
AiroI have universe and multiverse too10:33
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thenukeThorrn4: apt-get install firestarter works10:34
LinuxJonesThorrn4, apt-get update10:34
Vaniliahow about .tbz?10:34
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AiroI'm on a mac tho10:34
thenukeThorrn4: atleast so says ubuntuguide.org10:34
dcravenAiro: did you apt-get update after you added the universe repo?10:34
thenukeThorrn4: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#firestarter10:34
Airodcraven, of course10:34
dcravenAiro: Oh.. Dunno if wine works on ppc.10:34
Thorrn4what is the http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ ?!10:34
Airohmpf..10:34
dcravenAiro: I gotta ask :)10:34
Airook :)10:34
svyatogorso, noone seems to know about openoffice + gtk2 issue?!10:34
Naliothwine does not work on ppc10:35
dcraventhank you Nalioth10:35
Airodamn that then :/10:35
AiroThat's what I needed the most10:35
Vaniliai don understand how i can install programs to linux:DDD allways "unknown file type or something"10:35
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thenukewhat would be some console-tool for managing firewall easily?10:35
Naliothairo, its Virtual PC or bochs<cringe>10:35
dcravenVanilia: use synaptic if possible.10:35
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AiroNalioth, :)10:35
Airorather not10:36
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gingermarkHey, still relatively new to Ubuntu & Linux in general, and a couple of programs that did work have now stopped, namely xmms and the frozen-bubble game (!) - tried reinstalling them but this hasn't helped. Anyone have any ideas what might be wrong?10:36
Vaniliasynaptic?10:36
AiroMaybe darwine will evolve ;)10:36
Airothenuke, vim10:36
Airo:)10:36
venkmanahh10:36
thenukeAiro: not an easy way10:36
dcravenVanilia: System-->Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager10:36
venkmanthe 2.6.10 sources ARE prepatched.10:36
venkmanrawr10:36
Thorrn4root@dynamo:/home/roger # sudo apt-get install firestarter10:36
Thorrn4Reading package lists... Done10:36
Thorrn4Building dependency tree... Done10:36
Thorrn4E: Couldn't find package firestarter10:36
Thorrn4it did not work10:36
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FR500is there an equivalent to menuconfig?10:36
thenukeThorrn4: you did not read that guide? did you?10:37
Naliothairo it sucks for me, i don't have any intel hardware, just ppc10:37
Naliothso lots of this good stuff won't work for me10:37
obsdKrautefirestarter is in universe I think10:37
dcravenThorrn4: it's in universe.10:37
AiroNalioth, neither do I10:37
thenukeThorrn4: follow every line in there.http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#firestarter10:37
obsdKrauteI have it installed10:37
dcravenvenkman: good to know... Thanks.10:37
Airowell, I've the server box but I'm gonna get rid of it10:37
dcravenFR500: equivalent?10:37
kanuhaanyone known why I can't seem to get to www.kde-look.org/  when others say it is up?10:37
thenukeThorrn4: start from point 2.  "how to add extra repositories"10:37
Thorrn4IM EXTREMELY NEW TO LINUX....no one is helping me; I cannot get what ANY one is saying10:37
AiroActually I would've needed wine to test AutoCAD on it10:38
dcravenFR500: menuconfig comes with the kernel.10:38
obsdKrauteis it installing cleanly?  It failed on my brother's iLamp10:38
Airobut.. uhmm.. darwine is one possibility on osx10:38
FR500dcraven, well something doesnt work10:38
obsdKrautebut works on my ibook and iMac DV10:38
AiroProlly won't work tho10:38
venkmandcraven: dont' cross the stream.s10:38
thenukeThorrn4: I am helping you, so dont say that no-one is.10:38
FR500dcraven, it says i need ncurses-devel to use it10:38
dcravenvenkman: huh?10:38
AiroobsdKraute, what working?10:38
thenukeThorrn4: I'm just asking you to read that guide, and do exactly as it tells you to do10:38
Naliothairo, what do you want to do?10:38
AiroNalioth, cad? :)10:38
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dcravenFR500: yes, menuconfig is a curses app.. Install ncurses-dev and it will work.10:39
kanuhaThorrn4: this site will help you out.  http://ubuntuguide.org/10:39
venkmandcraven: ghostbusters?10:39
AiroWell, I don't mean to do it. My cousin would10:39
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FR500dcraven, that is not available in my repositories by default10:39
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FR500well everything is screwed today, i give up10:39
obsdKrautefirestarter on my ibook and iMac DV works, but not on a iLamp10:39
Naliothairo, not sure if any cad progs exist for linux, tho i'm sure there are10:39
dcravenvenkman: I remember the reference, but not the relevence.. I'm a little dense :)10:39
AiroThey're considering a mac and I'm trying to find if it's possible to run autocad on it somehow10:39
Naliothboy am i confrused?10:39
AiroAnd it HAS to be autocad because her school uses it :/10:40
obsdKrautelast I checked anyway10:40
mcphailAiro: is qemu any use?10:40
thegreedyturtleThorrn4: I got something for you, if you're interested10:40
Naliothairo, cad on linux or OSX?10:40
dcravenFR500: no worries.. How about ncurses-bin?10:40
AiroNalioth, well vectorworks on osx.. but I guess it won't do10:40
FR500dcraven, it's installed10:40
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Airomcphail, kinda tricky10:40
obsdKrautegot to go10:40
dcravenFR500: or maybe libncurses5-dev10:40
FR500that did it10:41
dcravenFR500: I forget which one I had to install first now.. hehe10:41
venkmancoding with curses lib is the suck10:41
mcphailAiro: that's how i've found it too :)10:41
dcravenFR500: good.10:41
obsdKrautebefore I do though, where is the multimedia kernel?10:41
gingermarkAnyone have any ideas why progs might suddenly stop working? Synaptic hasn't suggested any dependency problems, and the programs used to work! Thanks :-)10:41
Airomcphail, yeah :)10:41
Naliothcheck qemu, but but i think y'all will be lacking the x86 for it10:41
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AiroWhy isn't there a ubuntu ppc specific channel btw?10:41
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eruinanyone know the default webmin username/password?10:41
dcravenFR500: My biggest issue with Ubuntu is that that stuff is not installed by default.. Not even gcc for cryin' out loud...10:41
obsdKrauteis anyone using the -mm kernel?10:42
Naliothairo, that is a good question10:42
dcravenFR500: you have installed "build-essential" right?10:42
AiroI joined #ubuntu-ppc and mean to stick there..10:42
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FR500dcraven, yes i do, now i have to find there initial ramdisk and framebuffer somewhere on those menus10:42
Vaniliahmm... i wanna install counter-strike dedicated server (dedicated.bin) so do i burn it to cd?10:42
AiroMaybe ppl will gather around :)10:42
stazichhey10:42
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dcravenFR500: enjoy :)10:42
obsdKrauteguess not10:43
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FR500dcraven, :|10:43
FR500hehe10:43
Epixwhats a good mp3/cd player taht i can apt-get?10:43
dcravenbrb10:43
Epixsomething winamp like... but without the win10:43
spiralEpix: xmms ?10:43
stazichdoes anyone know the configurations of a cdplayer in ubuntu warty on an iMac? thing is the cdplayer wont playback the sound.. i heard before it would be due to the fact that there is no wire connecting cd drive and soundcard..10:44
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Epixspiral: ok, ill checkit out10:44
dcravenEpix: beep-media-player smells of winamp a bit.10:44
spiraldcraven: xmms too, isn't it ?10:44
spiral(dunno... I don't use winamp :-p)10:44
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dcravenspiral: it's essentially xmms with gtk2.10:44
paulproteusstazich: What program are you using for playing?10:44
stazichxmms10:44
spiraldcraven: allright..10:45
paulproteusstazich: Two things I should say.10:45
stazich?10:45
eruinanyone here use webmin?10:45
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gingermarkSpeaking of xmms....10:45
paulproteusFirst of all, beep-media-player is a drop-in replacement for XMMS that is just plain better.10:45
gingermark....anyone have any ideas why it might just stop working?10:45
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paulproteusstazich: Secondly, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-21338.html10:46
paulproteusLook for the phrase "digital audio extraction".10:46
paulproteusYou want that on.10:46
Epixhow can i run gnome/KDE apps on Flux10:46
stazichwell i am trying to configure XMMs...10:46
Quest-MasterCan anyone tell me why I keep on getting this error when trying to install libmono-dev?10:46
Quest-MasterThe following packages have unmet dependencies:10:46
Quest-Master  libmono-dev: Depends: libmono0 (= 1.0.5-1) but 1.0.5-0-4.10ubp1 is to be installed10:46
paulproteusstazich: I know.  Please read the link I gave you on fedoraforum.10:46
stazichthx10:46
gunnyanyone running iTunes on Crossover Office?10:46
NaliothEpix, from command line?10:46
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farruinnepix, you mean fluxbox?10:48
Thorrn4where is the setting in firestarter that allows it to be started on startup?10:48
Epixfarruinn: yes10:49
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farruinnepix, I think if you install the menu package you'll get a debian menu in your fluxbox menu10:50
farruinnthorrn4 it should automatically10:50
Thorrn4oh...ok farruinn thank you10:50
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farruinnfirestarter just configures the linux kernel firewall10:50
zero[] what's the configurator tool for xorg.conf ?10:51
zero[] like for changing video drivers10:51
farruinnif all you need to do is change the video driver you can edit the file manually10:51
Thorrn4for Ubuntu, do I have to alter ALL repository files to install something?10:51
farruinnbut I would suggest running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'10:52
thenukeThorrn4: I guess you dont have reason not to add every extra repo10:52
Epixis it possable to install ubuntu without a network and then put in a wireless card leter10:52
Epixlater*10:52
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mcphailEpix: yes10:52
zero[] farruinn: that's it, thanks10:52
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zero[] on second thought i'll do it manually though10:52
Epixmcphail: and is there a network config script?10:52
hybridhello all10:52
zero[] for vesa drivers i change Driver under Device to "vesa" right?10:53
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farruinnzero[] , yeah, it's a pain to go through all the questions just for that, isn't it :)10:53
zero[] lol, yeah10:53
mcphailEpix: Not sure. i just add details to /etc/network/interfaces10:53
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venkmangreat... i compiled the module for the cisco vpn client against the current kernel headers for my kernel, and insmode reports: invalid module format.10:59
_dockane_is it "normal" that firefox config key "network.dns.ipv4OnlyDomains" is a string and set to ad.doubleclick ???10:59
Burgundavia_dockane_, yes11:00
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kanuhacan anyone explain why I can surf the web, but cannot get to kde-look.org. Other people say the site is up and they can get to it.11:00
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shinu_why cant i ls an ntfs directory?11:01
shinu_i meant a windows partition mounted in dir :D11:01
ellswhen getting a video card for dekstop what is the main thing I should be looking for, clock speed, memory, or memory bandwith11:01
paulproteusFor gaming, or what?11:01
Burgundaviashinu_, have you mounted it so you can read it as a normal user?11:01
paulproteusLet me rephrase: What do you plan to do with the video card?11:01
ellspaulproteus ,kind of mixture of all11:01
kanuhacan anyone explain why I can surf the web, but cannot get to kde-look.org. Other people say the site is up and they can get to it. I get an unknown host.11:01
shinu_Burgundavia: /dev/hda2       /mnt/2k         ntfs    rw,user,auto    0       011:02
ellspaultproteus. would like to make a media center of sorts11:02
_dockane_ells, passive cooling, excellent vga signal or dvi and enough memory to porvide the your favourite solution in truecolor and lets say min. 90 hz11:02
shinu_Burgundavia: is that right11:02
Cowlikekanuha: maybe your dns server is down and your seeing cached results for other pages?11:02
Burgundaviashinu_, ntfs should be mounted ro11:02
paulproteusells: Doesn't sound you'll be playing intensive 3D games.  _dockane_'s advice sounds fine.11:02
paulproteusI have to run, whoosh.11:02
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Cowlikecan you do something like 'ping www.yahoo.com'?11:02
ells_dockane: will a cheap video card with 256 mb ram, be able to show dvds on the tv11:03
chavokanuha, sounds like a dns issue, try http://80.190.240.90 that's kde-look.org's ip11:03
kanuhaCowlike, yes I can ping yahoo11:03
Naliothkanuha go to anonymizer.com and see if it can find it, if it can, something is wonky on your end11:03
Kingsqueakells sure11:03
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ells_dockane: will my resolution suffer11:03
ells_dockane: my tv is 32 inch11:04
Kingsqueakells I haven't messed with dvi to a TV from a vidcard, but normally vga to a TV is limited to 640x48011:04
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_dockane_dockane, 256 mb is overkill, i would suggest to buy a low end ati or nvidia. crt or lcd ?11:04
Kingsqueakunless you get a TV made as a 'monitor'11:04
kanuhachavo, I can get to it with the IP11:04
FR500has anyone installed fbsplash on ubuntu?11:04
_dockane_*ells11:04
Kingsqueakan All In Wonder would be better for something like MythTV or Freevo use anyway11:04
ellsKingsqueak: what  about using svideo11:05
Cowlike-kanuha: what do you see if you do 'nslookup kde-look.org'?11:05
kanuhadoes that mean the dns server is down?11:05
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ells_dockan_: yes11:05
Kingsqueakells I haven't tried it, but as was mentioned 256mb card is massive overkill for just displaying video like that11:05
ells_dockane_: yes11:05
_dockane_ells, crt _or lcd ?11:05
ellsKingsqueak: so my dvds using the computer this way will play well then11:05
Cowlikekanuha: if you can get to it by IP, that means your dns service is down or broken somehow11:05
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Kingsqueakells should, yeah11:06
ells_dockane_: to a tv11:06
Kingsqueakells how fast is the PC? how much RAM?11:06
ellsKingsqueak: sempron 2400, 51211:06
kanuhaCowlike, I put it in #flood11:06
gunnyanyone running iTunes on Crossover Office?11:06
Kingsqueakoh hell, no problem with that ells11:06
ellsKingsqueak: trying to make my pc into a media pc of sorts11:07
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_dockane_ells, haven't tried to provide a tv with my computer11:07
Kingsqueakells check out the MythTV and Freevo sites, one of them had a lot of card information for compat and those projects are all about being a media center11:07
tid-wavehello, is there an installation guide for ubuntu ?11:07
ellsKingsqueak: cool11:07
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Burgundaviatid-wave, there a preliminary one the docteam repos11:08
venkmanhmm11:08
gunnytid-wave: what kind of issue are you having?11:08
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hatanihi all, sorry for the stupid question, but why ubuntu become so famous so quickly?11:10
tid-wavegunny: i have no issues, i just recommended ubuntulinux to somebody and i wanted to know if there's an installation guide .. especially on the partitions and package selection11:10
Burgundaviahatani, good defaults11:10
ellsKingsqueak: I about to buy my card today. should I be more interested in clock speed, ram or memory bandwith11:10
scizzohatani: because of its development...11:10
Burgundaviatid-wave, there is no package selection (good defaults) and partitioning is something that a techy should do11:10
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Kingsqueakells  http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1   try there11:11
tid-waveBurgundavia: can it resize existing partitions ?11:11
gunnybest bet is to have a 2nd HD totally available to Ubuntu  IMHO11:11
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ellsKingsqueak: thanks11:11
Burgundaviatid-wave, not in the partitioner currently11:11
Epixwooty11:11
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Epixubuntu is dled, burninining!11:11
Burgundaviatid-wave, try something like knoppix for that11:11
tid-waveok11:12
gunnymepis can resize an NTFS partition11:12
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Kingsqueakells  http://freevo.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/doc/Hardware    similar from the freevo project11:13
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ellsKingsqueak: cool, thanks11:13
_dockane_i am trying to watch a real stream. i installed real player binary (as described on ubuntuguide.org). when i click on the streamlink ff asks me what to do: i point to realplay in /opt/RealPlayer but nothing happens. ps aux say real player is running with 3 different pids and system load is slightly increased. what goes wrong ?11:13
ellsKingsqueak: have you ever heard of the GeeXbox project11:13
mcphailAre the servers down? "Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.151). - connect (111 Connection refused)"11:13
Kingsqueaknope11:13
shinuBurgundavia: sorry i got disconnect ^^'11:14
shinuBurgundavia: did you get what i said?11:14
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Burgundaviashinu, ntfs must be mounted read only (ro)11:14
venkmanw00t11:14
venkmanmy vpn works11:14
Burgundaviashinu, unless you download some highly alpha crack11:14
shinuBurgundavia: uh... ok then11:14
shinuBurgundavia: better not :) thanks11:14
Raquenhow i can change the splash screen?11:16
gunnyRaquen, which one?11:16
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shinuBurgundavia: i still got this permission denied11:17
ellshas anyone heard of the GeeXbox project11:17
shinuBurgundavia: though i can list when im root11:17
Burgundaviashinu, you are missing a permission, but I at this moment am drawing a blank (don't have windows anymore)11:17
Raquenhttp://www.linuxeu.de/images/wallpaper/ubuntu/splash-screens/ubuntu-508x340.png11:17
Raquenthis.. for example11:17
Kingsqueakells they have a hardware guide right on the main site  http://www.geexbox.org/en/hard.html11:17
ellsKingsqueak: yeah, just trying to get your take on it11:18
shinuBurgundavia: hehe... i have windows just in case linux fails. or when i want to play some games :D11:18
Kingsqueakall I know is from friends, and of MythTV and Freevo, they seem to prefer MythTV overall11:19
gunnyRaquen, check directions here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11478.html11:19
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shinuBurgundavia: oh well... ill try to figure out by myself11:19
Raquentnx11:19
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hybriddoes anyone on powerpc have sound working in mplayer?11:20
gunnyanyone running iTunes on Crossover Office?11:20
KarlosIIyes11:20
Epixthis amazes me. its with debian but w/e... a P2 Celeron 450mhz running faster than a AMD athlon 1ghz11:20
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EpixP2 has debian11:20
Naliothhybrid, depends on the video codec for me11:21
Epix1ghz has windows XP home11:21
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hybridNalioth: does sound work on avi's for you?11:21
KingsqueakI have an XP home box here the wife and kid use, 2.4Ghz Intel in it, it's dog slow11:22
darknualadoes anybody know a good linux equivalent to dvdshrink?11:22
Epixok, so ubuntu is run by some rich guy but who develops it11:22
darknualaor dvd copy?11:22
Naliothhybrid try to configure it using the ESD instead of ALSA11:22
melodieEpix: all is in Google  ;)11:23
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SphearionEpix, you need to rent or buy the movie Revolution OS, should answer most if not all your questions about linux in general.11:23
hybridNalioth: ok11:23
Epixfuck. write error11:23
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SphearionEpix, appearently your question has angered the linux gnomes that live in all computers... lol11:24
KarlosIIlol11:24
Kingsqueakdarknuala http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/11:24
warmfreezewhats everyone favorite destro of linux?11:25
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dockanedoes anyone know how i get the sh** real player working ?11:25
Epixflamed11:25
Epixflamed is great11:25
Sphearionwarmfreeze, tossup. today - Ubuntu, yesteryear - redhat 9.0 , yesterday - fedora core 3, tomarrow - who knows!11:25
KarlosIIwarmfreeze, you come here an ask that?11:25
Epixbest distro exer11:25
warmfreezelol11:26
warmfreezeim bored11:26
hybriddockane: helix i belive runs real movies11:26
darknualai've got dvdrip but all i see that it does is make divx copy of a dvd, i want to copy a dvd to another dvd11:26
Spheariondockane, so does totem - xine with the mplayer codecs :)11:26
KarlosII:>11:26
randabiswhat's a destro?11:26
hybridlol11:26
randabisa distro rigged to be an explosive?11:26
Sphearioni concur randabis11:27
VjazIt's redhat.11:27
dazzeddistro-?11:27
hybridno a distro only for desktop11:27
Naliothrandabis a distro that destroys?11:27
Sphearionwould't that be a desKro11:27
hybridlastro is laptop distro11:27
dazzedlol11:27
Spheariontrashtro = redhat11:27
warmfreezewow11:27
dockaneSphearion, is mplayer to able to play the most videos. i really bite myself when is get in trouble with codec stuff and i don't have strong nervs regarding this topic11:27
randabiswell, ubuntu isn't a destro then...11:27
hybridoldtro = debian11:27
JDahlSphearion, redhat = retro11:28
thegreedyturtleubunto is a distro...11:28
warmfreezelol11:28
KarlosIIdockane, yes11:28
thegreedyturtledistro = distribution of GNU/linux11:28
Spheariondockane, if you install the mplayer codec pack called w32codec. totem-xine can play most all movies11:28
Epixhmm, how can i tell if a cd burnt well11:28
randabisubunto...distro for toes!11:28
hybriddockane: mplayer is awesome plays avi mpeg 1 3 4 ogg/v/t11:28
darkauditEpix: play it? ;)11:28
hybridand many more11:28
thegreedyturtleubuntu is a version of the Debian distro, so it's kind of a distro of a distro11:28
Epixdarkaudit: its a ubuntu cd11:28
randabistotem is just fine. :)11:29
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KarlosIIdebian is a flavour and ubuntu is a distro11:29
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Sphearionubuntu is the best working distro I have used to date. other then the old habit of using su - instead of sudo I love it. for now11:29
randabisHell, I still use totem over kaffeine in kde11:29
hybridthegreedyturtle: it is like those never ending puzzles11:29
hybridlol11:29
warmfreezeim on ubuntu now ...thinking of installing fedora tho ..but i dont know yet11:29
KarlosIIdebian is a flavour of linux11:29
Sphearionwarmfreeze, DON'T11:29
thegreedyturtleno, debian is a distro of linux, and linux is a flavor of unix11:29
dockaneSphearion, that sounds confusing : totem-xine plays .... woth mplayer code....... w32codec11:29
KarlosIIjust like gentoo is a flavour of linux11:29
IIIEarshybrid - Was mplayer difficult to install?11:29
hybridubuntu is like debian modded to be practical11:29
warmfreezewhy not ?11:29
JDahlKarlosII, linux is a kernel...11:29
warmfreezelol11:29
randabiswarmfreeze what could fedora possibly offer you that ubuntu doesn't?11:29
hybridIIIEars : it is easy to compile11:30
Spheariondockane, totem-xine plays those, and uses the codecs in the background all you need to remember is totem = movies!11:30
darkauditEpix: if the burn looks consistent, no blank spots or nasty looking patches, it's probably good...11:30
Epixcan someone tell me the size and/or the nuber of files on a burnt ubuntu CD11:30
thegreedyturtlelinux is a kernel, which is why it has to be released with a 'distribution' of handy tools11:30
KarlosIIflavour = a way handling packages11:30
thegreedyturtlesuch as gnome11:30
warmfreezemore desktop envoronments :-D11:30
Epixdarkaudit: ok, windows can access it but nero said the burn failed11:30
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Zugotuh... linux is not a flavor of unix11:30
darkauditI've had k3b call a burn 'successful' for DVDs, but they turn out looking like crap...11:30
IIIEarssphearon - Ubuntu is the best yet! - everything worked.11:30
Zugotlinux is unix like...  but not unix11:30
Sphearionwarmfreeze, being a user of fedora since FC1 B1 until yesterday, I can tell you right now that ubuntu is better. and more environements, hell go download the source for whatever WM you want and install it :)11:30
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thegreedyturtleGNU's NOT UNIX!11:31
hybridZugot: true Linux ~= unix11:31
darkauditEpix: best bet there is to burn at a slower speed and verify the burn after11:31
randabiswarmfreeze: ubuntu offers a lot of desktop environments11:31
hybridLinux = Unix - $11:31
warmfreezelol jeesh . i din mean to start a debate :-P11:31
hybridrandabis: did you see the talk of xubuntu11:31
thegreedyturtlethere really isn't a 'true' Unix left, i guess technically there is somewhere, but most are flavors of unix, such as solaris, HP-UX, AIX and others11:31
hybridsco11:32
thegreedyturtleand as for hybrid's comment, solaris is open source too :)11:32
warmfreezesolaris sucks ..11:32
darkaudithybrid: BLASPHEMY! :)11:32
thegreedyturtleyeah, sco has some rights to the original unix11:32
darknualaso can i use dvdrip to copy a dvd to a blank dvd?11:32
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randabishybrid: yes, and if someone wanted to take up the project, I would welcome it with open arms11:32
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hybriddarkaudit: amen viva la big blue11:32
thegreedyturtlebut that's a whole 'nother can of worms11:32
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xmuxhi11:32
Sphearionaccually linux is UNIX LIKE, and linux is based from unix and in the words of linux torvolds himself "I named it linux after linux and the x just had to be there because of unix, its a law or something" "I could not name it linus that would be to egotistical" - linux torvolds   - movie : revolution os11:32
xmuxAnybody know what is taking the Firefox update so long?11:32
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warmfreezeafter i installd solaris i wiped the drive in about 45 minutes11:32
NaliothIIIEars, i believe compiling is the only way to get the graphical frontend for mplayer (may be wrong)11:32
hybridranadabis: idk much of programming but i will gladly do what ever i can11:33
randabisKarlosII: amen; gentoo is a mess now...it used to be decent11:33
hybridi currently run xfce11:33
IIIEars<< Has d/led nearly everything from single floppy firewalls and rescue CDs to sun Enterprise - Ubuntu has been the easiest - It is just plain swe-et!11:33
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KarlosIIrandabis, heh11:33
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Kingsqueakdarknuala part of the problem is that a plain DVD is only 4.7G, gotta google it a bit.  Basically you use DVDrip to rip it, then remove the menus etc to make it fit on 4.7G11:33
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warmfreezeso how do i download a desktop environment and install it ?11:34
n3Does anyone have any advice on dualbooting UBUNTU with WINDOZE11:34
n3??11:34
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Sphearionn3 check www.ubuntuguide.com11:34
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randabiswarmfreeze: that lovely tool called synaptic11:34
LevanderAnybody using subversion?  No matter what I try, when I do a "svn import" I get the error message "Could not open the requested SVN filesystem".11:34
n3(yes i know it sounds a bit out of touch but you cant seem to run ADOBE premeire on LINUX decently_)11:34
KarlosIIrandabis, and Sphearion some doorknob wants to mmake gnome java11:34
warmfreezerandabis, ware do i find it?11:34
Sphearionsorry its www.ubuntuguide.org11:35
supertedLevander: this might not be the best or right place :)11:35
hybridxfce looks as if lol a hybrid of mac and windows when it comes to the pane11:35
IIIEarswhy dual boot windows a virus will snag windows and force a reinstall11:35
SphearionKarlosII, NOO11:35
KarlosIIfor 3.011:35
darknualai never got dvdshrink to work with wine, so is there a linux equivalent to dvdshrink?11:35
Sphearionnooo....11:35
KarlosIII just about blew up when I read that thread11:35
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randabiswarmfreeze: it's in the System menu I believe11:35
hybridIIIEars: did you see where that guy tested windows virri with wine?11:35
Levandersuperted: it's probably an install question, and the ubuntu package does a lot of the install for me, just don't know what I've got left to do11:35
IIIEarswarmfreeze for DVDs?11:35
Sphearionhybrid, got a link to that one?11:36
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darkauditdarknuala: did you make sure that the WINE config had it running as XP?11:36
randabisKarlosII: Yeah; I also heard something about a possible gnome fork11:36
warmfreezecrap . it is :P11:36
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KarlosIIrandabis, I'm completely against that fork11:36
warmfreezeim such a tard :P11:36
hybridSphearion: h/o11:36
IIIEars lol - a virtual computer is the only way to run windows connected to the 'net.11:36
darknualayeah i followed the guide in ubuntu forums exactly.  it chokes trying to find the drive.11:36
spo0nmanhas anyone used a canon powershot 300 with ubuntu?11:36
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thechitowncubsspo0n, all canons work nicely11:36
thegreedyturtleIIIEars: i can't find warmfreeze on google11:36
Spheariondarknuala, no joke right, unless you use kaspersky antivirus and firefox and use litexp to REMOVE IE11:37
Gabriel_LimaI'm from brazil11:37
randabisKarlosII: yeah, I don't see the need for it11:37
ellsdoes anyone know if LimeWire is shutdown11:37
xmuxNice slurs against windows, Ubuntu Linux has been vulnerable to a Firefox remote code execution bug with a public exploit for more than a week and nobody seems to care11:37
spo0nmanthegreedyturtle, what do i need to do to copy the jpg's?11:37
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thegreedyturtlehuh?11:37
hybridSphearion: http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222&from=rss11:37
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KarlosIIxmux, since when got proof?11:38
IIIEarsDVDshrink is a good ap shame there isn't a linux variant.11:38
Gabriel_Limaos brasileirosgostam bastante do ubuntu11:38
randabisI don't use ubuntu's firefox build. It's crap11:38
spo0nmanthegreedyturtle, i see no device when i connected it to the usb slot. no device in dmesg11:38
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randabisI use the official mozilla.org one11:38
mcphailme too11:38
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thegreedyturtlespo0nman: are you sure you were talking to me?11:38
xmuxI'm afraid of upgrading outside the package system11:38
Sphearionthanks hybrid11:38
KarlosIImost ppl don't though11:38
hybridIIIEars: wasnt there a 321 studios linux product?11:38
hybridb4 they got hit?11:38
xmuxKarlosII: Since one week ago11:39
mercI'm trying to set the root password here, sudo passwd root -- asks me for a password, any idea what i did?11:39
KarlosIIlink please as proof?11:39
spo0nmanthegreedyturtle, damn stupid xchat autocompletion11:39
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thegreedyturtlemerc: sudo uses your password11:39
xmuxhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2430611:39
xmux^^^ proof11:39
thegreedyturtlespo0nman: np11:39
mcphailxmux: your browser is your weakest point. I'd upgrade.11:39
mercthegreedyturtle: i've not set one yet11:39
spo0nmanthechitowncubs, :) what do i need to do to get pictures...11:39
farruinnmerc: you have to enter your password to use sudo, then you'll see "Enter UNIX password"11:39
ellsdoes anyone know if LimeWire is shutdown11:39
KarlosIIand has anyone told the ubuntu authors yet by filing a security bug?11:39
farruinnthat will be your root pass11:39
mercohhh11:39
mercfarruinn: lol, thanks11:39
mercnever used sudo before :X11:39
thegreedyturtlemerc: no, you use the password that is assigned to your own username11:39
hybridells: i dont think so11:40
thegreedyturtlemerc: you will always use your own password for sudo, not the root password11:40
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ellshybrid: can not connect to limewire11:40
xmuxmcphail: I'd like to upgrade but I can't because apparently it takes longer than a week to put firefox into a package that I can download11:40
mercthegreedyturtle: thanks :)11:40
thegreedyturtlenp11:40
wbeck85is there a way to adjust voltages for the processor? In windows I found a program called "CrystalCPUID" that allowed me to adjust the voltages for my athlon64 laptop, resulting in a much cooler and quieter machine11:40
randabiswhy do you even need to enable to root password? seems pointless to me11:40
hybridells: hmm have you tried diff ports11:40
ellshybrid: what ya mean11:41
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mcphailxmux: use the mozilla download. Don't use apt-get for firefox11:41
hybridrandabis: i agree b/c a root account doesnt need to be there no real reason11:41
farruinnmcphail: why do you suggest that?11:41
Sphearionvery nice hybrid11:41
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hybridells: you maybe blocking the port you are trying to connect through11:41
xmuxmcphail: Why would I want to run ubuntu if I can't use the package system?11:41
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randabisfarruinn: because ubuntu's firefox is crap unfortunately :/11:41
mcphailfarruinn: lots of security updates don't get into ubuntu quickly11:42
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hybrid_i like opera11:42
ellshybrid: not sure, but I do not have firestarter installed11:42
mcphailxmux: make an exception for you browser. Use apt for everything else11:42
xmuxuntil there is a bug in my IRC client, then what?11:42
xmuxmake another exception?11:42
randabisxmux: well, I see your point, but sometimes we must compromise interoperability for functionality11:42
djm62how long has OOo2 been in universe?11:42
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KarlosIIhuh11:43
mcphailxmux: you make your bed etc...11:43
KarlosIIOOo2?11:43
Zugotdjm62: a while now11:43
djm62openoffice.org 211:43
randabisopenoffice 211:43
thegreedyturtleit's in universe?11:43
thegreedyturtleooo11:43
hybrid8ells: well i believe all unix systems for linux to os x to hp ux have a firewall on by default11:43
KarlosIIOO 2 is not released is it?11:43
thegreedyturtlebeta release11:43
xmuxmcphail: I know, I've gone from a total ubuntu advocate and zealot to not recommending it overnight11:43
Zugotthere is a beta in there.   i use it11:43
Zugotsometimes11:43
hybrid8OOo is too big11:44
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hybrid8i like abiword11:44
djm62I was searching for some kind of quickstart applet, and noticed all the 2 packages11:44
Zugothow do you figure?  office is large too11:44
djm62abiword is damn nice11:44
ellshybrid8: it worked fine a week ago11:44
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hybrid8any other alternative word proccessors11:44
thegreedyturtleheh OO is actually version 1.9.7211:44
hybrid8ells: hmm11:44
thegreedyturtleoo2 that is11:44
hybrid8elss: have you upgraded since then11:44
ellshybrid8: it cant be me, really11:44
hybrid8**ells11:44
mcphailxmux: ubuntu is still more up to date than most other distros11:44
Sphearionthese poor people who have either 1) never ran linux before or 2) live in a suse world, have alot to complain about. my roomate (windows guy) is always giving me hell because I run linux (only linux always have always will) I remember redhat 3 man was that fun, had to get your hands dirty just to get the installer to run correctly, then came ubuntu and whilst I don't have to get my hands as dirty in console editing things as much, I h11:45
Sphearionave found it to be the best way to fix the things that I need to run and make things just the way I love them I give props to all you people who stay here and answer these rediculous questions that could be answered in 3 seconds with a google search or even reading the unofficial ubuntu guide. Good day to ya!11:45
ellshybrid8: yes11:45
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kkamranianyone know a gui way to setup BIND? or is anyone having problems with your ubuntu box's hostname showing up on a windows network with Samba properly configured?11:45
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BazziSphearion oh come on its not like linux is source of salvation11:45
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Naliothhear! hear! Sphearion11:45
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thegreedyturtleonce you get the hang of the terminal, assuming you have a decent WPM, it's usually faster for doing things11:45
djm62let's not even bloody argue...if it works, use it, if it don't, change11:46
hybrid8ells: that maybe your problem11:46
hybrid8something was edited11:46
SphearionBazzi, but it is, you see in linux if there is a problem you can fix it, I like that in windows if there is a problem you wait for a patch, that patch will make more problems its an endless cycle11:46
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ellshybrid8: what ya mean11:46
randabisif you really wanna still get your hands dirty on a daily basis, use something like BSD :p or hell, gentoo...it breaks itself afterall hehe11:46
hybrid8Sphearion: compile from source11:46
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BazziSphearion I'd be lucky if I could actually fix everything I want to11:46
randabisyeah I love my cli too :)11:46
SphearionBazzi,  stick around here. google everything, and spend time with it, in the end linux will return the favor :)11:47
djm62I'm happy to wait for patches, and gnome suits me fine...read the HIG, they're like a meta-manual11:47
hybrid8ells; there may have been say a bug that edited a file that messed up limewire11:47
BazziSphearion I have to use debian stable on a server, thats no joy, really :p11:47
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re|runI have setup ubuntu three times and all three times I have started out with my system running fine with wireles (centrino) --- and then after usiing it for about a day, I will boot up and all of a sudden, my system see acess points, but doesn't connect to them11:47
randabiscompiling from source isn't much of a chore...it's more of a time waster11:47
Sphearionhybrid8, considering I used to run gentoo before it went crappy. I can say that I do compile alot from source11:47
ellshybrid8: i thought so too,and reinstalled the updated limewire, same effect11:47
hybrid8Bazzi: learn to love the cli11:47
Bazzihybrid8 I want to to work ;)11:47
hybrid8ells: hmm well idk11:47
SphearionBazzi, I use fedora core 1 (cli install, no X) on my servers thats just a headache11:48
djm62I remember when stable was released...2.2 kernel, kennedy for president, the three-day week11:48
ellshybrid8: idk?11:48
hybrid8Sphearion: i wanna try gentoo for a server11:48
BazziI have to use cli anyway11:48
hybrid8i dont know11:48
Sphearionhybrid8, don't :)11:48
Bazzithats not the issue11:48
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Bazziits rather debians messed up package system11:48
randabishybrid8: that would be a HUGE MISTAKE11:48
hybrid8 why?11:48
randabisGENTOO is NOT for servers...only masochists use gentoo on a server11:48
hans_is ubuntu able to read ntfs hard disks?11:48
Epixhans_: yes11:49
randabishybrid8: it's too unstable for one thing11:49
re|runhans_: yes -- see the ubuntu guide11:49
hybrid8randabis: i thought gentoo was *flexable*11:49
Sphearionubuntu is the easiest linux distro I have used to date. I like it, have had little to no problems with it, been less than 2 days now, and so far so good. all customized the way I like it, even samba was easy to setup, wait I did smb.conf by hand from memory :)11:49
re|runhttp://ubuntuguide.org11:49
randabishybrid8: flexibility != stability11:49
djm62ubuntu should have HIG...11:49
Sphearionhybrid8, gentoo is NOT flexible, its compilable. you start today, and with a compile farm you will finish in about 12 hours :)11:50
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spo0nmanim trying to use a canon powershot 300 with ubuntu, but i dont get any devices ... any hints?11:50
hybrid8well what distro should i use on my server? slax? debian?11:50
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randabisgentoo is an addiction for ricers11:50
djm62spo0nman: google say anything?11:50
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djm62hybrid8: slax is a livecd...11:50
randabishybrid8: ubuntu :p11:50
darknualadebian is good for servers11:50
stazichhey11:50
hans_i plugged in another hard disk with win on it but it wasnt recognized automatically....any help?11:50
randabisubuntu is good for servers too :p11:50
Sphearionspo0nman, as much as I hate to say, some things can only be done with proprietary software, or lots of waiting. digital cameras (including alot of webcams) don't work real well with linux :(11:51
KingsqueakI just installed as 'server' worked great11:51
flex_i have the amd64 ubuntu and I cant run anything and i cant get the i386 iso right now11:51
stazichdoes anyone know a good console player which can playback both cd and mp3s? im having performance issues11:51
stazich;-)11:51
flex_hehe11:51
mcphailspo0nman: this udev thing looks quite tricky. Might be your problem.11:51
hybrid8randabis: really? it seems to desktop ordinated11:51
Sphearionmcphail, spo0nman yes, udev is NOT the best.......11:51
djm62Sphearion: not always true....a lot /are/ supported (though not usually webcams)11:51
spot_hi i have a proble of delay for internet request, the browsing speed is un normaly slow, is ther a vay to chech the network card modules any idea ???11:52
Spheariondjm62, I never said supported or not, I said they don't work so great with linux11:52
spo0nman mount -t usbdevfs none /proc/bus/usb11:52
spo0nmanmount: unknown filesystem type 'usbdevfs'11:52
spo0nmanwhats going on there?11:52
randabishybrid8: you can do custom installations. Ubuntu has all the same server tools that debian has throughout the repositories11:52
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Sphearionspo0nman, exactly what it says, it does NOT know what usbdevfs is11:52
djm62either things work or not11:52
Spheariontry mounting as vfat11:52
spo0nmanSphearion, why does it not knoe? im using stock kernel.11:52
Sphearionchances are its going to try and read the memory card. that memory card is most likely formated fat16 or fat32, usbdevfs is NOT a valid filesystem descriptor11:53
re|rundoes anyone know what it would mean that I can see open WAPs but cannot connect to them?11:53
Sphearionso change that usbdevfs to either fat or vfat11:53
mercre|run: could have MAC filtering on11:54
Sphearionand another thing why not just mount /proc/bus/usb /media/camera vfat (or fat)11:54
Sphearionwhy are you trying to mount it to nothing in /proc11:54
mishofAnyone here managed to install IE with wine ?11:54
Sphearionforgive me I hate devfs11:54
Sphearionmishof, why would you want to?11:55
smospo0nman: I have type 'usbfs' mounted at that location. might wanna try that11:55
randabisyeah devfs sucks11:55
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re|runmerc: I thought of that --- but it's my own APs that are doing it --- if I can connect to them in windows on the same system I should be able to get it in ubuntu -- besides, I had them in ubuntu yesterday11:55
spo0nmansmo, hmm11:55
Sphearionlemme see what my usbpendrive mounts as11:55
Jimmothydoes the ubuntu site accept user screenshots?11:55
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mishofSphearion, some sites only work on ie ( like the israel army site which i need to enter :| )11:55
Sphearionmishof, you might want to send them an email, and tell them to follow W3C standards :)11:56
mishofSphearion, im afraid many people did that already =p11:56
Naliothmishof your question baffles me11:56
smoSphearion: usbfs is another meta-fs, same idea as /proc & /sys.  it's not the filsystem on a usb block device.  I can't remember what it's useful for anymore tho11:57
mishofNalioth, ?11:57
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Naliothmishof, user a linux browser, change the "user-agent" to SAY it's IE and go on your merry way11:57
pablo928 mishof, why not install konqueror and have it identify as IE?11:57
pablo928Nalioth:can that be done with firefox?11:58
jabraanyone know if there is still support for sparcs in ubuntu11:58
Sphearionwhat is the best place to install crossover office? /usr/local/crossover?11:58
shinuis gaim 1.1.4-1ubuntu1 the last release available on apt-get?11:58
mishofpablo928, Nalioth: I'll try that, although i believe the problem is with stuff that only IE can handle (stuff it invented)11:58
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mcphailmishof: IE installs under Crossover Office if you really have to11:58
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jabraif so where I could find a iso11:58
Bazzihey dont make the statistics look pro-IE :P11:58
xonThere is a firefox plugin for user-agent switcher11:58
Naliothyes any browser can have its user-agent changed11:58
mishofpablo928, yes there is an extension to do that11:58
pablo928thanks i'll look for it11:59
xonhttp://chrispederick.com/work/firefox/useragentswitcher/11:59
mishofpablo928, i got a link sec :)11:59
mishofthere you go11:59
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owlmanattThe 'Add A Printer' thing isn't seeing my USB printer and putting it into the detected printers list. It's a USB printer, it's plugged into a USB port that I had my thumb drive in about fifteen seconds ago, and it's turned on...Why can't it be detected?12:00
shinuNalioth: i saw ie on mac and was supprised it installs by default :/12:00

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