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martijnhello everyone01:25
martijnsomeone listening?01:26
KaiLmaybe :)01:26
martijnis this the place to tell about kubuntu bugs?01:27
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closureooooooooooook01:29
closurei apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday01:29
closurenow KDE is royally screwed with no K menu and gave me like 5 errors when it loaded01:30
closureany ideas?01:30
KaiLclosure: sudo "dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb"01:30
KaiL:))01:30
closurethank you01:30
closurei was wondering about that01:30
KaiLmaybe sudo "apt-get -f install" after that01:31
Cowlikeclosure: i fixed that by rm'ing ~/.kde dir and restarting my X session01:31
closuresudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb01:32
closuredpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--install):01:32
closure cannot access archive: No such file or directory01:32
closureErrors were encountered while processing:01:32
closure /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb01:32
closurethat's what i got when i did that kail01:32
KaiLhmm01:32
Cowlikeclosure, you just updated kde 3.3 to 3.4?01:32
KaiLtry apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade again...01:33
closureapparently01:33
closurecowlike01:33
KaiLit should get fresh kdelibs (if you don't already had this update..)01:33
closurealso01:33
closuremy Konsole01:33
KaiLuhm, there was never any kde3.3 in kubuntu!?01:33
closurenow has a white background as opposed to the black w/ white text01:33
martijnHey KaiL, you seem to be the one that knows01:33
martijnI just had problem in getting in administration mode from kconsole01:34
KaiLmartijn: sudo su01:34
Cowlikeif you can't get anything else to work, closure, just remove the .kde dir in your home dir and restart your X session. you're having the same conflict in kde config files that I experienced01:34
martijni finally had todo sudo from konsole01:34
martijnbut the button inside kconsole seems broken01:34
closureCowlike, how exactly do i restart my xsession?01:35
closurejust logout01:35
KaiLmartijn: you mean kcontrol?01:35
Cowlikeyes, logout01:35
martijnyes01:35
KaiLthe controlcenter....01:35
KaiLah01:35
KaiLand sudo works?01:35
martijnyes01:35
KaiLhmm01:35
martijnhmm ...01:35
KaiLthat's strange01:35
KaiLyou are the second reporting this today..........01:36
martijnit first seems to logging in01:36
KaiLRiddell: ping?01:36
closurePreconfiguring packages ...01:36
closure(Reading database ... 83355 files and directories currently installed.)01:36
closurePreparing to replace kdelibs-data 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (using .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb) ...01:36
closureUnpacking replacement kdelibs-data ...01:36
closuredpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--unpack):01:36
martijnand then it just doesnt01:36
closure trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf01:36
closureErrors were encountered while processing:01:36
closure /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb01:36
closureE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:36
closurethat's what i got when i apt-get dist-upgrade01:36
closurei got the same error yesterday01:36
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closurei shutdown last night and booted today and it's screwed01:36
KaiLnow the dpkg -i --force-overwrite.. should help01:37
closureCowlike, will rm'ing .kde fix it?01:37
KaiLah, filename broken..01:37
KaiLclosure: sudo "dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_43a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb01:39
KaiLgrrr01:39
closureno such files01:39
closuredpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_43a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--install):01:39
closure cannot access archive: No such file or directory01:39
closureErrors were encountered while processing:01:39
closure /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_43a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb01:39
RiddellKaiL: yo01:39
KaiLsudo "dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb"01:39
KaiLRiddell: kcontrol + sudo doesn't like each other today?01:40
closurein quotations?01:40
KaiLnot required01:40
closurenice01:41
RiddellKaiL: Anlar kknown problem, and the biggest in kubuntu, actually I think it's from upstream01:41
Riddellreinstalling is the only way I've found01:41
closureseemed to work that time01:41
KaiLRiddell: and is there anything against the kdelibs problems?01:41
martijnOh KaiL: the same problem from accessing the services from konqueror01:41
martijn(though i guiess its the same problem..)01:41
Riddellclashing with knetworkconf?01:42
martijnyep01:42
KaiLfirst this overwrite, and then it seams to break kubuntu-default-settings01:42
KaiLyes01:42
Riddellwhat does it do with kubuntu-default-settings?01:43
Riddellthis internet access is terrible01:43
KaiLthe default settings are just ignored as it looks01:43
Riddelldo you have /etc/kderc01:44
KaiLinteresting...01:46
KaiLthat file isn't there here?!01:46
KaiLbut dpkg says it's in kubuntu-default-settings01:46
Riddellthat's another issue I have no clue about01:47
KaiLsame for you? ;)01:47
Riddellremove --purge kubuntu-default-settings  then install again01:47
KaiLhow to purge without killing kdm? ;))01:47
KaiL..which will kill X...01:48
KaiLextracted the file over mc, let's see, if that also solves the other one here...01:49
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KaiLhmm, k, that's fixed too...01:52
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KaiLRiddell: so no solution for the kcontrol+sudo?01:54
KaiLhmm, but why /etc/kderc runs away...01:56
RiddellI havn't properly investigated either I'm afraid01:58
Riddellyou can reinstall kcontrol and it might work01:58
KaiLmartijn: could you try?01:58
KaiLhere it works (also strange, why it doesn't break for everybody)01:58
martijni can try i guess01:58
KaiLapt-get install --reinstall kcontrol01:58
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closureok01:59
closurenew problem01:59
closurei can't get any KDE apps online now01:59
KaiLclosure: hmm...01:59
closurei'm in BitchX in a konsole window01:59
closurebut i can't get xchat online01:59
martijnit seems to be willinh my install cd!!01:59
closureaccording to KControl Center my network is cool01:59
KaiLwhat's that now?01:59
KaiLmartijn: yes02:00
closureand i can access my other box's files02:00
KaiLclosure: sudo "apt-get -f install"02:00
KaiL...if there's something not clean installed....02:00
martijnreinstalling02:01
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martijnreinstalling works!02:01
martijni mean02:01
closurethis is just getting mor interesting02:01
closuremartijn i'm aware reinstalling works02:02
martijnit does work after reinstalling02:02
KaiLmartijn: wonderful!02:02
closurei would like to fix it as opposed to reinstalling and getting all my damn apps again02:02
closurek02:02
closurelet me logout and try again02:02
KaiLRiddell: maybe something of the kdelibs has some very destructive postrm scripts?02:02
KaiLor prerm02:02
martijnbut the package does not seem online as i activated the other sources on source.list02:03
KaiLthe cdrom is on top of the file, so it get's used02:03
martijnok02:03
KaiLif you comment that out, it isn't used any more02:03
martijnok02:03
KaiL...should be done, if you install for other people and don't let the cdrom there02:04
martijnoh just another minor point02:04
martijni just installed firefox02:04
martijndefault website is in ubuntu-artwork02:04
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martijnwhich is not required for firefox installation02:04
closurewoo02:05
KaiLclosure: all working again?02:05
closurenow i just get to reconfigure KDE02:05
closureyep02:05
closurei reset my config files so i have to reconfig now02:05
KaiLI think, the half-installed kdelibs doesn't work02:05
closurewhat do you mean?02:05
closureit's running now02:05
KaiLyes02:06
closureor did that dpkg command reset it to the old one?02:06
KaiLyou said, yesterday you ignored the error02:06
closurewell yeah02:06
closuresomebody said it would be fixed in a couple days02:06
closureand nobody told me that dpkg command to fix it02:06
KaiLso the new kdelibs didn't get configured -> and didn't work02:07
KaiLI don't want to know, how "average users" will react on this02:07
closureahh ok02:07
KaiLI guess with removing kubuntu :(02:07
closurewell that's what i like about linux02:07
closurei'm still learning a lot02:07
closurebut you can fix shit in linux02:08
closureyou don't have to remove everything02:08
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KaiLyes, indeed02:08
closurethat alone is crunk ta deaf shawdy lo02:08
closurel02:08
closurebut i agree that does need to be fixed02:08
KaiLfor Windows problems even MS supports first recommends reinstall :)02:08
martijnok thanks and by folks!02:08
KaiLthis kdelibs update fixes 1 bug - and creats many, TO MANY new02:09
closureKaiL, lol i always loved it when i would call my box's manufacturer asking how to fix anything and they would say "have you tried reinstalling"02:09
KaiLhehe02:09
closureeven reinstalling in linux02:10
closureKDE is still seperate from console02:10
KaiLbtw. I didn't have anybody here, who had a "please reinstall" problem :)02:10
closureso you can maintain your files and such02:10
closurenow i wonder where baghira went02:10
KaiLnormally 1-line-fixes here02:10
closurei'm guessing that it went away when i deleted .kde huh?02:10
KaiLinstall kwin-baghira :)02:11
closurekwin-baghira?02:11
closurewhat's that?02:11
closureahh same thing i guess02:12
KaiLkwin theme "baghira" :)02:12
closureahh ok02:12
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closurei am reinstalling it according to synaptic it was still instaled02:13
closureerr installed02:13
kkathmangreetings all :)02:13
KaiLclosure: and not listed...?02:13
sdogiwatch this great animations and laugh at misfortune that falls on bill gates 02:13
sdogihttp://nurme.yi.org/~sdogi/Intro.avi.torrent02:13
smouchehey kkathman, how you been?02:14
kkathmansmouche:  Howdy!! How are you ??02:15
smouchepretty good.  get to sleep in a little tomorrow; that's cheered me up a lot!02:16
kkathmansmouche: thats a good thing!02:16
closureKaiL, it's listed02:17
KaiLok02:17
closurejust listed as installed02:17
closureoh you mean in kcontrol02:17
closureno it wasn't in there02:17
KaiLand now it is..?!?02:17
closurenot sure02:18
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closurelet me get there02:18
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closureyep02:19
closurenow it is02:19
KaiLok02:19
closurekinda weird02:19
closurelol02:19
KaiLclosure: I bet the kdelibs update deleted something here ;)02:19
closurewhat does that update fix anyways?02:19
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KaiLa security hole02:19
closurei'll bet i never even encountered the damn thing02:19
closurewell that's certainly no fun02:20
KaiLcan you use sudo in kcontrol?02:20
closurei wonder how many people hacked my planet02:20
closureIN kcontrol?02:20
closurewhat do you mean02:20
KaiLmaybe to set network devices...02:20
KaiLthe "admin mode"02:20
closurelet me see02:21
smoucheKaiL -- the admin mode were giving me problems, so I had to "sudo kcontrol" to start it, and that worked better02:21
KaiLsmouche: apt-get install --reinstall kcontrol02:21
smoucheKaiL -- why, is there some bug fix I don't know about?02:22
closurehrm02:22
closureno02:22
closurethis is not cool02:22
KaiLclosure: as I said...:)02:22
closurek02:22
KaiLsmouche: you installed the kdelibs update? :)02:22
smoucheyes02:22
closurereinstall kcontrol?02:22
KaiLthat seams to be "a bit" broken02:22
KaiLclosure:  apt-get install --reinstall kcontrol02:22
closurecool02:22
KaiLoh, and you both miss /etc/kderc, I guess - there it is: http://moba.linuxfaqs.de/kderc02:24
closure?02:25
KaiLthat's the kubuntu-look&feel in KDE02:25
smouchecool, KaiL - thanks.02:26
sdogiand then you can watch trailer about deadly penguin02:26
sdogihttp://nurme.yi.org/~sdogi/Intro.avi.torrent02:26
sdogiok enough02:27
sdogigoodnight02:27
closureok now to figure out how i did those panels again lol02:27
closurecrap02:29
closurei deleted my taskbar how do i get it back02:29
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KaiLok, enough: http://moba.linuxfaqs.de/kdelibs-debug.sh02:32
KaiLa script, which should repair all the damage02:32
KaiLif somebody has something more, tell me.02:33
closureshould i run that KaiL ?02:33
closureor am i cool?02:33
KaiLnot required02:33
closurek02:33
closurecan you tell me how to get my taskbar back?02:34
KaiLthat script does all that, you just did02:34
KaiLthe panel is there?02:34
closurei deleted it02:34
closurei clicked "remove taskbar"02:34
closurei was trying to seperate it and put it on the bottom02:34
KaiLbut the panel itself is still there?02:35
KaiLso rightclick on it...02:35
closureyeah02:35
closurejust not the taskbar02:35
closureahhh sweet!02:35
closurethanks man02:35
KaiL;)02:36
closuredamn this is annoying02:36
closureit's like initial set up02:36
closureonly all over again02:36
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smouchelol, I've been through that about 8 times with kubuntu, closure!02:50
smouche(mainly back in unstable hoary days though)02:50
closurethis is the first time02:52
closurei've been running it for i'd say 2 months maybe 302:52
closurehopefuly it will be the last02:52
closurei'm saving my config after i set this shit up though02:52
closurethat's for sure02:52
smouchegood plan.  I never do that.  need to start.02:53
closureprobleem is right now02:53
closurei can't remember all the stuff i had set lol02:53
closureor how i had it set02:53
closurei'm trying colors right now02:53
closurei can't figure out which one i liked02:54
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incubiiwhos good with fluxbox03:06
closurenot i03:06
closure>8-)03:06
incubiihmm i know how to configure windows to maximize 24px from the bottom in BBlean for windows but it doesnt work for fluxbox03:08
incubiiits annoying03:08
closureyep i have no idea what you are talking about >8-)03:08
incubiithats alright i talk to myself anyway03:09
closuregooood goood03:13
spredakonq and t'bird won't go on internet via server, but ping works and other box is on internet via server. gateway is in /etc/network/interfaces. clues, anyone?03:16
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closurehrm03:21
closureanybody know how to make my icons 3D?03:21
closureor could someone tell me how i'm sure someone knows how03:22
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:closure] : http://www.kubuntu.de/party/ http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | Feedback please: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuHoaryReleaseComments | rumours are, error messages can help debugging :) | http://moba.linuxfaqs.de/kdelibs-debug.sh script will fix kdelibs bug
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bzbbI have a broken kdelins-data03:44
bzbbkdelibs03:44
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alyksI'm trying to use apt-get to install ogle, but it doesn't seem to work03:45
alyksI type this:03:45
Riddellbzbb: you can be the first to try the script in the /topic 03:45
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alyksapt-get source ogle03:45
alyksbut it only says it can't find the source package03:45
Riddellalyks: sudo apt-get install ogle03:45
Riddellsource will download the source into the current directory03:46
bzbbooh, thanks03:46
alyksI did do the sudo03:46
alyksand if I do apt-get install ogle it says it can't find the package also03:46
tjsgday, I just apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop on my hoary installation, and there are a few issues. stuff like kmail and korganiser have totally empty configure dialog windows for instance03:47
tjsand my menus seem to have no kde apps in them at all03:48
Riddellalyks: it's in universe03:49
tjsanyone else seen this sort of thing?03:49
alyks?03:49
tjskopete also seems to have no functional configure dialog, but konversation does03:50
tjswhat could I be missing?03:50
alykswhat do you mean "universe"?03:51
bzbbthe script worked03:52
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flameshi, how can i make a screenshot from my screen in kde? like printscreen under windows03:54
alyksgo into the menu03:55
alyksunder the graphics one03:55
alyksand click on ksnapshot03:55
flamesthx!!03:55
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alyksI can't get ogle to install with apt-get04:03
Riddelloh, he's gone04:04
RiddellI can't find the universe wiki page04:04
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closurebzbb look at the topic04:13
closureget that script04:13
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kkathmanevening again, all :)04:13
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closureevening04:23
bzbbclosure, I did and it worked04:26
closurecoolio04:26
closurethank KaiL i think he wrote it04:26
Riddellhttps://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUKDE  everyone sign up!04:31
kkathmanHas anyone installed wine, and been able to get the Microsoft Installer to work...I have a couple of CD's that require the Microsoft Installer to install their product.04:33
jsubl2Riddell: what is it04:33
jsubl2Riddell: nm.. site finally came up that explains it04:35
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jsubl2the wiki is a little slow04:39
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moistdamm I've lost all sound agian 04:41
Riddelljsubl2: try accessing it form australia :(04:42
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jsubl2ok.  Riddell so, you need to be a developer to be on a motu team04:43
Riddelljsubl2: you need to make packages, then you become MOTU when you are wise04:44
Riddellit's pretty easy to become a MOTU04:44
Riddelldo sign yourself up if you want to help04:44
jsubl2Riddell: ok.. i see04:44
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andrewskidoes anyone here use kaudiocreator?05:17
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spredakonq and t'bird won't go on internet via server, but ping works and this box is on via server. gateway is in /etc/network/interfaces. old lappy will work on samw cat.5 cable, so its' in the box somewhere! clues, anyone? please?05:35
spredasamw/same^05:37
infornographyI am having trouble doing an 'apt-get upgrade,' the package 'kdelibs-data' returns an error. Anybody else had this problem and know how to get it to work?05:37
infornographyThe error says something about 'trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf'05:38
spredasee last part of topic, inforngraphy05:40
infornographyRight, I'm an idiot. Sorry about that05:40
infornographyAnd thanks05:41
spredanp05:41
andrewskidoes anyone else think filelight rocks?05:42
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closureandrewski, what's Filelight?05:48
spredacd /05:48
andrewskiclosure: check it out in apt; it shows your file sizes in a pie chart.05:48
closurehrm05:48
andrewskiclosure: particularly useful for me in my rather large music collection.05:48
closuremight help if i had my collection on this box05:49
closurethis is just my little toy laptop i keep in my den for television computing05:49
closurereally movies and such05:49
closurecause i'm that addicted05:49
closurelol05:49
closuregotta have my net man! can't live without it!05:50
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closureoooooooooooook06:13
closuredoes anyone have problems with KDE just completely shutting down and then the xserver restarts?06:14
closurejust at random?06:14
Riddellclosure: not heard of any such thing06:14
closurewell06:14
closurei can't figure it out06:14
closureno idea what i do when it occurs06:14
andrewskiclosure: did you look at X's log?06:14
closurenope06:15
closuredidn't know they existed lol06:15
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andrewskiclosure: might be helpful. :P06:15
closurewhere do i  find uch a thing?06:15
andrewskiclosure: and do you use compositing?06:15
closuresuch a thing06:15
closurecomposting?06:15
closurewhat's that?06:15
andrewskiclosure: /var/log/X/ or something like that.06:15
andrewskiclosure: kwin's transparency/shadows and the like.06:15
andrewskiclosure: if you don't know, you probably don't. :P06:15
andrewskibut i'm off to bed....06:17
closuresome shit has shadows and stuff but i don't think so06:17
closurei was trying to find where to turn off all that fancy shit earlier06:17
closurei don't like fading menus and scrolling and all that non sense06:18
closuredamni06:20
closuret06:20
closurei hate it when that happens06:20
closureRiddell, do you know which one of these logs would be the one to look at?06:20
closurexorg or xfree?06:20
Riddellclosure: xorg if you're using hoary06:25
closuresealab is retiring!?!?06:27
closurethat's a kubuntu question btw06:27
Riddellwho?  what?06:29
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jagohello, does anyone  know where to find what pakages are avalable for apt-get06:38
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closurejago synaptic shows you a list06:45
closureit's the easiest way06:45
jagothank you06:46
Riddelljago: kynaptic06:49
jagocan i add the testing libraries on debian to my soucr list or will it corupt my system?06:50
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closurehrm06:55
closurejago i wouldn't add the debian repositories06:55
jagowhat a bout univers and multiverse06:55
closureit might work but k/ubuntu is just built off debian i'm not sure how close they are related06:55
closuresomeone mentioned "breezy" being the dev repository for k/ubuntu06:56
jagowhere is it06:56
jagowhat is it06:56
closureyou change where it says "hoary" to "breezy"06:56
jagooh thanks, sorry i am new to this....06:57
closureno biggie i'm learning as well06:58
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jagodoes any one know how to enable multiverse and universe in apt?07:10
closurejago07:11
closurei *THINK* if you do it in synaptic it will be the same in apt07:11
jagohoe do i do it in synaptic07:12
jagosorry how not hoe07:12
closurelet me see07:12
closure?07:12
closureoh07:12
closurei thought you were calling me a hoe i was like "wtf? i'm helping you out biatch!"07:13
closurelol07:13
jagosorry  lol07:13
closureok07:13
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closuregoto settings -> repositories07:14
closureit's in there somewhere07:14
closurethere's different ones on mine07:14
closurei believe you check them to enable them07:15
jagoi don't see a settings07:15
closureare you using Synaptic or Kynaptic?07:15
jagoi see filters07:15
jagoknaptik sorry i don't have synaptic07:15
closureoh07:16
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closurei don't like kynaptic it has no features07:16
jagoshuold i get synaptic07:16
closuredo apt-get install synaptic07:16
closurei like it better personaly07:16
jagook07:16
jagothanks07:16
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closureit might require libgnome or whatever07:18
closurebut that's a useful package to have07:18
jagothank you07:19
jagothaks again for all the help but i need to get up and go to work in like 3 hours so i will see ya.07:19
jagobye07:19
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zabuarg firefox keeps crashing on kubuntu08:11
zabueven after I wiped it completely + all bookmarks or any trace of it08:11
Kamping_Kaiser:|08:11
closurezabu, what's it doing?08:11
Kamping_Kaiserthats a problem08:11
zabujust goes 'blip' and disappears08:11
closureyeah i think that's some kind of memory saver08:11
closurecause it rapes my ram08:12
closureand i think when it gets low it closes the last app open08:12
closurei've had the whole of KDE crash as well08:12
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infornographyWhat is the command to run the script to fix the kdelibs bug?08:16
Kamping_Kaiser./08:17
Kamping_Kaiser./kdelibs-debug.sh08:17
Kamping_Kaisermake it executable first08:17
infornographyOh, I forgot to make it executable08:18
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ArdieMhi all09:11
ArdieMive got a problem and need help09:11
ArdieMi want to download kubuntu install cd for amd6409:11
ArdieMbut my is browser always crashing when i try to open the mirror site...09:12
ArdieMcould someone gimme a fast downloadlink for "kubuntu install cd amd64" please ?09:12
Kamping_Kaiserwhat browser09:12
Kamping_Kaisersure i can, ill just get it09:12
ArdieMevry browser ^^firefox konqueror ...09:13
Kamping_Kaiserwtf09:13
Kamping_Kaiserwhat are you running?09:13
ArdieMmepis09:13
Kamping_Kaiseri hate that ;)09:13
Kamping_Kaiserwhere are you? ie what country should i get a mirror for?09:14
ArdieMmom ill give youn link09:14
ArdieMhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/ <-- now my browser is crshing when i try to click on "amd64 @ install cd"09:14
Kamping_Kaiserhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5.04-install-amd64.iso09:15
Kamping_Kaiseryou might need to try wget.09:15
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ArdieMthank you very very very MUCH09:16
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Kamping_Kaiser:)09:16
Kamping_Kaiserany time09:16
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ArdieMlol kget is crashing... funkin mepis ... well then i have to boot windows ... thanks anyway bye..!!09:17
Kamping_Kaiserardeim09:17
ArdieMyes ?09:17
Kamping_Kaiserin a konsole try running wget http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hoary/kubuntu-5.04-install-amd64.iso09:18
Kamping_Kaiserjust to try and keep you in linux ;)09:18
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ArdieMlol kget started working...09:20
ArdieM^^ im scared of my os Oo09:20
Kamping_Kaiser:) wget is the backend09:20
Kamping_Kaiserits great09:20
Kamping_Kaiserlol @ scareness09:21
Kamping_Kaiserphear it. it uses KDE ;)09:21
ArdieMhehe do you use kubuntu ?09:21
Kamping_Kaiserno ;)09:21
Kamping_Kaiserbut i do lots of helping here09:21
ArdieMthats nice09:21
ArdieMi tried ti install gentoo but then i realized that its much work... and im to lazy for things like gentoo ^^09:22
Kamping_Kaiser:) theres enough ppl helping in #ubuntu, htey dont need help there. but this channels full of squatters who never talk... when im here anyway09:22
ArdieMhahaha09:23
Kamping_Kaiser:) i havent tried gentoo. burned the cds but never got roud to install09:23
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trans_errntpdate won't sync with any ntp servers "no server suitable for synchronization found"09:43
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amichaianyone know why printer is only printing the colors but not black in kde, new black ink10:48
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spiralhi10:57
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spredahow do I make eth1 activate on bootup?10:59
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verden01Hi11:05
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jnoonanyone seen this error? /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4-0x1.6a7820000005ap-1363.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf11:09
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Kamping_Kaiserjnoon, last bit of channel topic ;)11:11
Kamping_Kaiseriirc11:11
jnoonlol thanks11:12
jnoonwhats iirc mean? always see it never know11:12
Kamping_KaiserIf I Remember Correctly :)11:12
jnooncool11:13
Kamping_Kaiserbtw. hi spiral and verden01 :)11:13
spiralKamping_Kaiser: hi11:13
Kamping_Kaiserspreda iirc in the controll pannel11:14
jnoonalways wondered this... say you are running a program that and while its running.. you apt-get something which ends up upgrading the program you are currently running... ive never seen an error, but does it stop anything from happening that is supposed to since its currently running?11:16
Kamping_Kaiserit happens when you restart the app11:16
jnooninteresting how it doesnt break anything11:17
jnooni guess i still have a windows mindset on a few things11:17
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Kamping_Kaisersame. but its dissapearing ;)11:18
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spredahow do I get eth1 to activate on startup?11:24
Kamping_Kaisertry looking in the controll pannel. but nfi here11:26
spredathanks anyway.11:28
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Kamping_Kaiser:| and nested x isnt working, so i cant look for you11:29
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verden01Hi11:31
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Kamping_Kaiserhi11:33
verden01hey11:36
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verden01hey Kamping_Kaiser how good is ADSL2?11:37
Kamping_Kaiserlol. looks good. havent used it ;)11:37
verden01oh i thought you was using it with internode11:38
Kamping_Kaisernot yet ;) wish i was11:39
Kamping_Kaiserexchange isnt enabled, and i dont have controll of the phone line11:39
verden01k :-)11:39
Riddellspreda: network configuration in kcontrol should be able to do it11:40
yannuxy'as pas une commande qui permet de connaitre l'encodage d'un fichier ?11:45
Kamping_Kaiserhm.?11:45
Kamping_Kaiserenglish here11:46
yannuxis there a command to know file encoding ?11:46
yannuxutf8 iso....11:46
Kamping_Kaiseri dont know it, but i think there is one11:47
yannuxoki :)11:47
Kamping_Kaiser:) sorry11:47
yannuxthanks :)11:48
Kamping_Kaiser:)11:49
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GameCatmorning all11:50
Kamping_Kaiserhi mate11:51
incubiihowdy11:51
incubiidont think im gonna get my pc back for a long time, just bought my GF roller coaster tycoon 2 triple pack11:51
Kamping_KaiserLOL. 11:51
Kamping_Kaisernever see you again11:51
incubiinah im on the mac11:52
incubiibut i do all my work on the pc11:52
incubiiguess ill have to adapt to PPC better11:52
incubiilol11:52
Kamping_Kaiser:) theres a use for your win2k install11:52
incubiiwell thats the thing11:53
incubiiafter the install it worked11:53
incubiibut afffter reboot it stopped working11:53
incubii:D11:53
Kamping_Kaiser:O after how many hours install11:53
Kamping_Kaiser?11:53
GameCatcan anyone help me with a qt error while trying to compile kde apps?11:53
incubii3 hours11:53
incubiii hope they build KQEMU for ppc11:54
incubiiit really needs it11:54
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GameCatokay, a different question: can anyone successfully compile kde apps on kubuntu? :)11:55
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incubiiill let you know after 2 weeks of downloadin dev sources11:56
GameCathehe11:56
GameCatI'll wait patiently :)11:57
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incubii:P11:58
Kamping_Kaiser:D11:58
GameCatI keep getting an qt not found error, even though I have all the req libs etc installed - can't compile a thing :(11:59
Kamping_Kaiserwhats the qt error?11:59
incubiiQT ERROR: Not Windows12:00
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Kamping_KaiserLOL12:00
GameCatchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!12:00
GameCatconfigure barfs with that12:00
incubiianyone know if Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind runs under wine ?12:00
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Kamping_Kaisergamecat. your qt is out of date?12:02
spredaRiddell, yes, but sudo won't work on it. it takes the pword,draws a red box, then tells me again that it needs admin priv, or just greys out again.   grrrrr12:02
GameCat$ dpkg -l|grep qt12:03
GameCatii  dbus-qt-1      0.23.4-0ubuntu simple interprocess messaging system (Qt-bas12:03
GameCatii  libqt3-headers 3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt3 header files12:03
GameCatii  libqt3-mt-dev  3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt development files (Threaded)12:03
GameCatii  libqt3c102     3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt GUI Library, Version 312:03
GameCatii  libqt3c102-mt  3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), V12:03
GameCatii  pinentry-qt    0.7.1-5        Qt-based PIN or pass-phrase entry dialog for12:03
GameCatii  qt3-designer   3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt3 Designer12:03
GameCatii  qt3-dev-tools  3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt3 development tools12:03
Kamping_Kaiserits qt ;) dont use kde12:03
GameCatnot the most helpful advice I've had so far :)12:04
Kamping_Kaiser:) sorry12:04
Kamping_Kaiserits all i can offer12:04
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incubiii have to use fluxbox when playin DVDs or KDE goes mental12:04
GameCatKamping_Kaiser: 'sokay, I was just jesting - I'm getting a bit frustrated by this problem - I want to move permanently from fedora to kubuntu, but if I can't compile on it, the deal is off :(12:06
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Kamping_Kaiser:(12:06
Kamping_Kaiserbugger12:06
Kamping_Kaiserand you must have qt?12:07
verden01anyone installed vmware on kubuntu?12:07
GameCatwell yeah, it's the kde gui library :)12:07
GameCatverden01: not me, sorry12:07
verden01k12:07
Kamping_Kaiserverden01 no, iirc it was a rpm, and at the time i didnt know about alien12:08
incubiii use qemu12:08
incubiisince im on kubuntu ppc12:08
verden01alien   is that a rpm tp deb program?12:08
verden01to12:08
Kamping_Kaiseryes12:09
GameCatyeah12:09
verden01cool i'll try it12:09
Kamping_Kaiseror you can install it 12:09
verden01well i'm looking at synaptic now12:09
Kamping_Kaiseralien is installed by default12:10
verden01:-) i just found that out12:10
Kamping_Kaiser:)12:11
verden01so do i open the rpm with alien?12:11
Kamping_Kaiseriirc. alien -i vmware.rpm12:11
verden01thanx12:11
incubiibuh why do people get offended when you tell them you cant help them because you are too busy with your own stuff :|12:17
=== incubii stabs stuff
Kamping_Kaiser:s12:17
incubiiwhere am i going to find time to help co-code a game if i dont even have the time to code my own12:18
incubii:|12:18
GameCatco-code? what is this game?12:19
Kamping_Kaiserlol12:19
incubiico-develop ?12:20
incubiiassist in the process of coding?12:20
incubii:P12:20
Kamping_Kaiser:)12:20
incubiihe said it was called "hackers and crackers"12:20
incubiididnt sound too fun12:20
GameCatah right12:20
GameCatuplink ripoff maybe12:20
Kamping_Kaiseror a lifegeek rip12:21
incubiiboo12:23
incubiiim after coding my own top down stargate or avp clone12:24
incubiithough i doubt ill ever get more then the stub code going12:24
incubii:D12:24
GameCatif you build it they will come12:24
incubiiyeah i took a weird way at coding my engine12:26
incubiineed to start from scratch12:26
GameCatI can't code at all - I just want to be able to compile daamt :)12:26
GameCater dammit :)12:26
GameCatI want to be able to type too :)12:27
incubiilol12:27
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_martijncan someone help me?12:32
GameCatwhat with?12:32
_martijngot a problem using network setting in the kcontrole center12:33
GameCatah yeah, try sudo kcontrol in a shell...12:33
_martijnno thats ok12:33
_martijnthat we solved yesterday12:33
GameCathehe12:33
GameCatokay...12:33
_martijnwhen i configure my card12:33
incubiinever had a problem with kcontrol12:33
_martijnit seems to work12:34
_martijnbut when i stard the device12:34
_martijnit says ok and then it fails12:34
_martijnseem config using ifconfig works perfectlly12:34
_martijnsame config i mean12:34
GameCatwhat is the failure message?12:35
_martijnno failure message12:35
_martijnit just disables the device again12:35
GameCatah right12:35
GameCatand you don't want this device to be started at bot?12:35
GameCatboot, sorry12:35
_martijnyes i do12:35
_martijnyou think it will work when rebooting?12:36
spredaso do i12:36
GameCattried editing /etc/networking/interfaces by hand?12:36
_martijnnope...12:36
_martijncan have a look12:36
spredayep12:36
_martijnit did configure /etc/networking/interfaces12:37
GameCatsee what it says for that interface, make sure there is a "auto eth0" line for the device12:37
GameCator eth-whatever, obviously12:37
_martijnits there12:37
_martijnso i suspect nothing important then12:37
GameCatwhat else is there for the card?12:37
spredaGameCat, the Q is how to make it start on reboot?12:38
_martijniface eth0 inet static12:38
_martijnaddress 192.168.0.112:38
_martijnnetmask 255.255.255.012:38
GameCatyeah, and you can conterol that through that file12:38
_martijnok12:38
GameCatno gateway specified - what kind of network is it?12:38
_martijnlocal12:39
_martijni'm the server 12:39
GameCatokay, does it have to connect out to the net?12:39
_martijni got an other device for that12:39
GameCatokay12:39
_martijnadsl on my eth112:39
_martijnok12:40
_martijni suspect nothing very imortant then12:40
GameCatno12:40
_martijnthanks a lot12:41
_martijnoh maybe a last small question12:41
GameCatiface eth0 inet static12:41
GameCataddress 192.168.0.312:41
GameCatnetmask 255.255.255.012:41
GameCatgateway 192.168.0.112:41
GameCatauto eth012:41
_martijnhow to enable dhcp at boot time12:41
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_martijndhcpd i mean12:41
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GameCatthat is all that is in my interfaces file and that card starts at boot12:41
_martijni mean how u start the dhcp server a boot12:42
spredaGameCat, does the auto ethx make the card start at boot?12:43
GameCathttp://ubuntuguide.org/#installdhcpserver12:43
GameCatspreda: yes12:43
_martijnok thanks ;-)12:43
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GameCatmake sure you don't point dhcpd at your adsl :)12:44
spredamartijn, you have defined your ips, why dhcp?12:44
GameCathe wants to hand them out, not get one12:46
GameCat_martijn: how many hosts on the lan?12:46
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_martijnsorry was away12:49
_martijnonly one 12:49
_martijnvery small one12:49
_martijnby the way12:49
_martijnisthe an issue with xmms12:49
_martijndrag-n-drop with konqueror-xmms seems broken12:50
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_martijnnetwork up and running perfectly12:57
spreda_martijn, welldone! now, will it restart if you reboot?01:01
_martijni guess so01:03
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_martijni'll try a little later: now time for samba and freenx ;-)01:03
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_martijnnobody has had problems with xmms?01:11
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GameCatsorry - busy and passing by - glad to hear the net works - I don't use xmms so I'm no help with that :/01:24
dvoiddom dom dom01:24
dvoid_martijn,  whats your xmms problem01:24
spredaGameCat, you still there?01:25
membreyaincubii: are you there mate?01:25
_martijnno drag-n-drop with konqueror01:25
GameCatspreda: yeah, on and off - gotr other stuff to do too :)01:26
membreyasomeone wanna test my FTP? I'm not sure if I've established PASV correctly and need an external person to test it01:27
spredaGameCat, np. do you have a box with more than 1 nic? 01:27
spredarunning hoary?01:28
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wfxhi ;-)01:30
GameCatspreda: this one :)01:30
GameCatmembreya: gimme an address and I'll try it for you01:31
membreyaGameCat: ....it's cool, got someone to test it :)01:31
GameCatk01:32
wfxi use german as default lang but not all app use it (konversation is still in english)01:32
spredain /etc /network/interfaces, is there a map ethx for each card?01:32
GameCatno01:32
GameCatjust eth001:32
GameCatbut only one interface on here is used regular, the other one is just for the pda01:33
spredaotherwise both stanza's are the same?01:34
GameCatyup01:34
GameCatwell, apart from the fact that the 2nd iface has different IPs :)01:35
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spredaI don't know what's going on then. the second nic is the active one, but it won't restart after reboot01:36
GameCattried adding a map eth1 line to the hotplug section? my eth1 is deliberately not started at boot...01:36
spredaafter the eth0 line?01:37
GameCatyeah01:37
GameCatmapping hotplug01:38
GameCatscript grep01:38
GameCatmap eth001:38
GameCatmap eth101:38
GameCatlike that01:38
spredatrying01:38
GameCatmake sure you have auto eth1 in there too :)01:38
spredayep01:39
spredagoing down01:40
GameCatokay...01:41
membreyaGameCat: did you want to try my FTP server please?01:42
GameCatsure - let me know where - use /msg if it ain't public01:43
membreyait's fine, I don't care if people logon, there's nothing there...01:43
membreyabut firstly..you know what PASV mode is in an FTP client? :P01:43
GameCatnot the worlds most useful ftp yet then :)01:43
GameCatI do01:43
membreyaIP: 211.28.78.53 port: 2001 username: anonymous (make SURE you type this) password: anything@anything (needs to include @)01:44
GameCatI'm in01:47
membreyacan you ls?01:47
GameCatyup, and cd - just looking for something to GET :)01:47
membreyalol there's only one file and it's a test, technically I have 42gb of music vids :P01:48
GameCatncftp / > ls01:48
GameCatbin/       dev/       incoming/  lib/       lib64/     .notar     pub/01:48
GameCatncftp / > cd incoming01:48
GameCatncftp /incoming > ls01:48
GameCat.notar01:48
GameCatncftp /incoming > cd ../pub01:48
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GameCatncftp /pub > ls01:48
GameCatarcticodyssey.jpg         .notar01:48
GameCatncftp /pub > get arcticodyssey.jpg01:48
GameCatarcticodyssey.jpg:                                      58.97 kB   13.22 kB/s01:48
GameCatncftp /pub >               01:48
GameCatworks fine01:48
membreyathankyou so much GameCat :)01:48
GameCat(I used "ncftp -P 2001 -u anonymous -P gamecat@kubuntu 211.28.78.53" in case that helps)01:48
membreyaI'm just so damned happy I got it all running :)01:48
GameCatglad to help m801:48
membreyawondering if I can symlink to the other directories :|01:49
membreyaand if I DO symlink how it gets back to /01:49
membreyaI suppose I could symlink it back01:49
GameCatdepends on the server - look at the man page - some have switches to allow following links outside the ftp root, some don't01:49
GameCatwhich daemon is it?01:50
membreyawu-ftpd01:50
GameCatdon't know that one, sorry - I always used pureftpd01:50
GameCatbut that was a while ago too :)01:50
membreyahang on, I will give you a big'ish file to grab if you like01:51
GameCatI logged out, but i can log back in if you want to try it01:51
membreyaGameCat: quick question, what type of music do you like?01:51
GameCatjazz mostly01:51
membreya:|01:52
GameCatbut I don't use mp3s01:52
membreyaother than jazz?01:52
membreyamusic videos, I hate mp3s01:52
membreyaI just want to test your speed01:52
GameCatdon't worry - I'll download whatever is there if you just want to test01:52
spredaGameCat, that didn't restart01:52
GameCatspreda: bummer01:52
GameCatany messages or clues?01:53
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spredajust wasn't there when it came back up01:54
membreyaGameCat: ok, log back in :)01:55
GameCatanything in /var/log/messages?01:55
GameCatmembreya: already did :)01:55
membreyago to pub and get the video01:56
membreya:)01:56
GameCatgetting about 13k/sec here01:57
GameCatand thats you not me - this is on a 3Mbit link01:57
membreyanot that great :(01:57
membreyaoh well01:57
GameCatis that on a dsl?01:57
membreyasame GameCat, but I'm in Aus :)01:57
membreyainternational link tends to suck a$$01:58
GameCatyour upstream is almost certainly hobbled - mine is 3Mb down 256k up and thats common :(01:58
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membreyamax I get when downloading is about 800kB/s01:58
membreyayou can stop now GameCat :P02:00
GameCatthats high for a 3Mb link - mine tops out at a steady 380k/sec ish02:00
GameCatokayu :)02:00
membreyadid you want cedega or p2play GameCat ? as a thankyou :)02:01
membreyanot sure how well they work02:01
membreyajust downloaded them02:01
GameCatno thanks, I'm just happy to help - I don't do warez :)02:02
membreyaevaluation purposes only :)02:02
GameCatyeah, but i don't play games on here either :)02:03
GameCati have a ps2 for that02:03
GameCatmembreya: http://www.wu-ftpd.org/wu-ftpd-faq.html#QA7602:03
GameCatlooks like symlinks are out02:03
membreyadang :(02:04
spredaGameCat, can i make it reread and reset the nic? the only one in the box is eth1 atm02:05
GameCatsudo ifdown eth102:06
GameCatsudo ifup eth102:06
GameCatthat'll do it02:06
GameCatif it's going to work anyway :)02:06
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membreyaGameCat: you might be right, looks like upstream is capped...person on the same cable network oly gets 25kB/s02:08
GameCatmembreya: I'd bet i am ):02:08
membreya:P02:08
GameCatoops - upside down smily for aussies :)02:08
membreyalol!!!02:08
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SlackShrikehi02:09
GameCat(I'm in the UK, so you are upside down from here)02:09
GameCathi SlackShrike 02:09
membreyawonder if you multithread it ..ie multiple caps of 25kB/s, i doubt it though02:09
SlackShrikeGameCat: Help me please 02:09
membreyadamn limeys GameCat :P02:09
GameCatmembreya: nope, the cap is at the isp end - no way round it02:09
GameCatSlackShrike: what with?02:09
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SlackShrikeGameCat: as it is that it creates ubuntu from scratch ?02:10
GameCatSlackShrike: I'm not sure i understand02:10
membreyaGameCat: you didn't bite on my limeys comment :P02:11
SlackShrikeHow to create a Kubuntu cd install ?02:11
GameCatSlackShrike: have you downloaded the iso image?02:11
GameCatmembreya: old news m8 :)02:11
membreyaGameCat: I'm 25, all I know is old news :P02:12
GameCatmembreya: and I'm 40 soon... :P02:12
spredaGameCat, that got a response. "/etc/network/interfaces:29: option with empty value"02:12
SlackShrikeGameCat : No, I am like create a kubuntu.iso in my house !02:13
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GameCatSlackShrike: ah, thats way beyond what i know how to do, sorry02:13
segfault2khi02:13
GameCatspreda: is the eth0 stuff commented out?02:13
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GameCathehe02:14
SlackShrikethanks02:14
spredanot yet02:14
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GameCatspiral: comment out the stuff for the nic thats not there...02:14
spredak02:14
membreyaRemember to let her into your heart, Then you can start to make it betterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr02:14
spiralGameCat: ?02:14
GameCatnot spiral - damned autocomplete02:14
GameCatsorry m802:14
spiralGameCat: all right :-)02:14
GameCatwas aiming for spreda 02:14
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membreyabored of singing now :)02:15
membreyaback to watching Oz :)02:15
Cowlikeis anyone else having a problem running screensavers?02:16
membreyaCowlike: as in they don't kick in ?02:16
Cowlikeyes02:16
segfault2kmembreya: wazap :P02:16
GameCatCowlike: not here02:16
membreyaCowlike: you need to start the screensaver daemon02:16
membreyaheya segfault2k :)02:17
membreyathat 2k better not mean you're in windows02:17
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spredaGameCat, going down again02:19
GameCatspreda: have fun02:19
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spredaGameCat, no restart02:24
GameCatspreda: can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file?02:28
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spredaGameCat, it's on other box. 02:29
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GameCatany joy?02:37
spredaGameCat, no but im on box in Q02:37
GameCatah right02:37
GameCatcan you paste the file for me now?02:38
spredayep is that a pm?02:38
GameCatjust use /msg gamecat <file contents> to save pasting it all in the channel02:39
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Chameleon22hi all02:48
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Chameleon22how can i reset my keybord shortcuts so windows get switched on Alt+Tab , not Ctrl+Tab. Currently Alt+Tab switches desktop but i want it to switch windows02:52
GameCatthats odd, it's the other way here02:53
Chameleon22ye i know, i did something i think, probably set to mac style during desktop setup wizard 02:53
GameCatthe only way i know of to swap them is with xmodmap02:53
Chameleon22which reminds me how do i run desktop setup wizard again ?02:53
dvoidChameleon22,  shuld be settings for that i kde control center02:54
Chameleon22dvoid: i looked there a number of times02:55
dvoidim looking at it right now ;)02:55
dvoidaccessibility02:55
dvoidkeyboard shortcuts02:55
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dvoidnot using kubuntu thou02:55
Chameleon22dvoid: ye found it :)02:56
Chameleon22thanks02:56
dvoidbut shuld be the same02:56
dvoidnp02:56
GameCatwhat are you using then?02:56
dvoidusing fedora02:56
Chameleon22woo done :)02:56
Chameleon22am happy now 02:56
GameCatgood stufrf02:56
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spredaGameCat, that still didn't start on boot03:18
GameCatdamn03:20
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GameCatI'm busy for a mo...03:21
spredanp03:21
membreyaspreda: what's not starting at boot?03:22
spredaeth103:22
membreyago auto on ?03:22
membreyaerm got even03:22
spredayep03:23
membreyadoes dmesg say anything about eth103:23
spredajust looking03:23
spredaI can see where i started it03:24
membreyaand once you boot, if you do an ifconfig -a?03:27
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spredamembreya, localhost kernel: apm: overridden by ACPI.03:27
spredaApr 25 23:05:48 localhost hal.hotplug[3768] : timout(10000 ms) waiting for /bus/pci/slots 03:27
spredaApr 25 23:05:48 localhost pci.agent[5836] : Bad PCI agent invocation03:27
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membreyayou mentioned before that you can ifdown and then ifup it? does that bring it online?03:28
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spredaII've been bringing it up by activating it in network settings after booting03:30
spredaif it was my box it wouldn't be a prob03:31
membreyaeth0 and eth1 are both PCI cards?03:32
spredabut it's my daughters first linux, and she's an hour away03:32
spredaeth0 was a pci card, now removed, eth1 is inbuilt03:33
membreyayou have only one ethernet card in there now ?03:33
membreyathen eth1 is null and void03:33
membreya:|03:33
spredayes03:33
membreyaif eth1 is null and void you should be commenting it out of your interfaces03:34
spredaeth0 is commented out. it doesn't seem to want to drop it though03:34
membreyaspreda: what does dmesg |grep eth0 say?03:35
membreyaspreda...anytime you're ready03:45
membreyacos I'm going to sleep soon03:45
spreda_love to. how can I run that?03:47
membreyadmesg |grep eth003:47
spreda_what in?03:47
membreyaterminal :)03:47
spreda$ dmesg |grep eth003:48
spredaeth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xe000, 00:0f:ea:af:90:7e, IRQ 1703:48
spredaeth0:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8101'03:48
membreyais that the PCI or the onboard?03:49
spreda_onboard, i think] 03:50
membreyaok then, so you need to stop worrying about getting eth1 running, because you've taken the PCI card out and now use the onboard, which is henceforth referred to as eth103:50
membreyaeth0 even03:50
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GameCatsorry spreda - i didn't realise you'd tugged the other card so my advice was probably crap :/03:52
membreyaso every reference you have in your interfaces file, change the eth1 to eth0 :)03:52
membreyaGameCat: ..you're funny :P03:52
membreyawoooooo ..let's hope Adam fixes a problem for once03:52
rejzerIs there a way to change default installed kernel from the installer?03:52
GameCatfunny? as in peculiar? :)03:52
membreyaGameCat: funny as in .... ..hmmm lol :P03:53
GameCatdamn, I always wanted to be peculiar03:53
membreyalike telling someone how to fix their car engine...without checking if they have an engine first :P03:53
GameCatmembreya: when we started trying to get this going he had 2 nics in there...03:53
membreyaahuh :)03:53
membreyaspreda_: fixed it yet.03:54
membreyaor the OTHER option, is to go to /etc/ and edit your iftab file, change the eth0 to eth1 :P03:55
membreyabut I recommend the way I said firstly.03:55
membreyadamn non-communicative types03:55
GameCathehe - isn't editing iftab dodgy?03:55
membreyashhhh03:56
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membreyait just assigns the eth0, eth1 etc to the mac address recorded on the system03:56
GameCatnoted, ta03:56
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GameCatdebian is a lot different to the redhat/fedora stuff I'm used to03:57
membreyaGameCat: go look at the file :)03:57
GameCatI did :)03:57
Chameleon22can anyone suggest to me a very simple wiki i could use to make notes/document development process of an arbitarry project?03:57
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membreyaGameCat: you can also use ifrename03:58
membreyaspreda_: !!!!!!!!!!!!!03:58
spreda_i'm here03:58
membreyafixed it ?03:58
spreda_it's going down03:59
spreda_find out when it comes up again03:59
membreyaother option spreda_ was to do a sudo ifrename -i eth0 -n eth103:59
GameCatChameleon22: http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl I have used that, it's a doddle03:59
membreyaspreda_: so did you change all the comments in your interface file from eth1 to eth0?04:00
Chameleon22GameCat: thanks, will check it out04:00
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spreda_yep removed all eth1,even04:00
eckharthi04:02
membreyabrb04:02
eckharthow can i activate 3d support in kubuntu?04:02
eckhart(ati 9200 se)04:02
membreyaeckhart: www.ubuntuguide.org04:03
eckhartmembreya: sure?04:05
eckharti can find information for nvidia, but not for ati04:05
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membreyafine fine..04:06
spreda_well, got rid of eth1 until I reconfigured the ethernet connection04:06
membreyasudo apt-get install fglrx04:06
membreyaspreda_: what do you mean04:06
spreda_it reidentified as eth104:07
membreyaspreda_: you're using gnome or kde?04:09
spreda_kde04:09
membreyahmmmmmmmm04:09
eckhartmembreya: i think you meant xorg-drivers-fglrx04:09
membreyadid it automatically activate eth0 at startup and allow connections?04:09
eckhartthe problem is how to configure it04:09
spreda_no04:10
membreyahmm04:10
spreda_you're in au?04:10
GameCateckhart: have a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:11
GameCateckhart: all the settings shoul;d be controllable in there04:11
eckhartGameCat: well, which settings do i have to set there?04:12
GameCateckhart: that will depend on what the ati drivers require, and i run nvidia...04:13
spreda_membreya, there is no reference to eth1 in interfaces at all04:13
eckharti found a wiki page which deals with that, trying04:14
GameCatk04:14
spreda_it must be somwhere else as well04:15
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GameCatmoff - see you all later04:41
alleemotaboy ping?04:43
motaboyallee: Hi04:44
alleeHi motaboy04:44
membreyadamnit motaboy ... the response is pong!04:44
motaboymembreya: I don't accept ICMP. :P04:44
membreyalol04:44
alleemotaboy: quick question for the kbt kitchensync stuff kde-3.4 is necessary for build-dep right?04:44
motaboyyes.04:45
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motaboyallee: you can take a look at my kdebluetooth packages04:45
alleeYeah,  I was searching the URL unsuccessfully :(  care to list it ;)04:46
motaboyallee: http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~motaboy/ubuntu/04:46
alleemotaboy: thx!!04:47
motaboyallee: I fixed a lot of thing in the konnector and I'll do a new package04:47
membreyaooo motaboy ..you're a dev?04:47
motaboyallee: just now I'm working on libqobex04:47
motaboyallee: I want to make some great changes to kdebluetooth :P04:47
alleemotaboy: havn't seen konnector cvs commits?04:48
motaboymembreya: A sort of :P04:48
motaboyallee: I commited a week ago I think.04:48
membreyadamn, was about to gripe about things that don't work :P04:48
motaboymembreya: on kdebluetooth ?04:48
membreyano :)04:48
membreyajust on kubuntu04:48
motaboymembreya: eheh04:48
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alleemotaboy: great things: post 1.0 release?04:49
motaboymembreya: don't worry. everything has bugs. just submit but reports. it's the right way to get them fixed04:49
motaboyallee: I think so.04:49
alleemotaboy: He,  maybe we should hint fred to do 1.0 ;)04:50
membreyameh, only thing that bothers me is once or twice a day kicker or konq crashes (browsing), kaffeine is a POS and I get an error when I log out ..but can't remember it since I don't reboot often :P04:50
motaboyallee: I want to put out all the obex things from kdebluetooth and make another package04:50
motaboyallee: so this stuffs will work with irda/bt/cable04:50
motaboyallee: and of course depend on kdebluetooth for bt stuffs04:51
alleemotaboy: great!   Any plans to merge debian/*  with freds cvs/debian?04:52
motaboyallee: I'd be happy to to that04:52
motaboyallee: but until debian doesn't have kde 3.4 I cannot do it04:52
motaboyallee: does debian has kde 3.4?04:52
alleemotaboy: 3.4 not officially.  But the devs have 3.4 ready 'before' kubuntu.   Kubuntu debs are based on them ;)04:53
alleemotaboy: AFAIK 3.4 will soon be uploaded to experimental04:54
alleemotaboy: OT:  my mobile contracts ends.  When you were me what BT handy would you try to get?04:55
motaboyP900/1000 ?04:55
motaboy:D04:55
alleemotaboy: I'm most important is addressbook exchange04:55
motaboyallee: mmm I don't know the status of the syncml konnector04:56
alleemotaboy: Why :D?  Aren't the available for 0/1 Euro + contract ;)04:56
motaboyallee: http://www.borowka.net/~maciek/ksyncml/04:56
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motaboyallee: in Italy not... :(04:57
alleeMunic is almost in Italy.  Maybe time to change to another italian region ;)04:58
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kkathmanAnyone have an idea what this problem is?  I got it when I updated today:  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4-0x1.6b7820000005ap-1363.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf05:11
KaiLsudo "dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb" 05:12
kkathmanthanks KaiL :)05:12
KaiLor with that filename there better..:)05:12
kkathmanKaiL: you mean the knetworkconf?05:13
kkathmanor the default.kde?05:13
KaiLthe kdelibs-data05:13
kkathmanahh ok05:13
kkathmanKaiL: so your original statement was ok then right?05:14
kkathmanthis was during an upgrade05:14
KaiLsudo "dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4-0x1.6b7820000005ap-1363.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb"05:15
KaiLfor you05:15
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kkathmanokies...thanks05:15
kkathmanahhhh there is an error in that package I think05:18
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KaiLI wonder, why you have this different filename05:19
kkathmanKaiL: I wonder how much that will mess things up, since I updated all the other items ?05:19
KaiLkkathman: in nothing05:20
KaiLthere a folder gets overwritten by "itself" :)05:20
kkathmanthere were like 10 updates, all installed ok except that one, and that statement failed05:21
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Super_Cat_Froghi - is anybody else having problems with vmware's performance?05:22
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Super_Cat_Frogvmware workstation is gobbling up about 50% cpu time on an athlon-xp 2500, and xine keeps skipping because of it (it didn't used to do this)05:23
Super_Cat_Frogall im doing in vmware is running windows xp (with all the nasty looking 'pretty' stuff turned off) and installing vb5 05:23
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MetalProcI have troubles updatins my kde-libs. Has anyone else had any problems with it?05:23
Super_Cat_Frogthe only explanation i can think of is vmware has become self-aware and decided vb5 is evil05:24
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marcushi folks05:24
marcusdoes anyone know how to regenerate the kde menu structure?05:24
Super_Cat_Frogmarcus - i had that problem05:25
Super_Cat_Frogi cant remember which worked, but one did:05:25
Super_Cat_Frogkbuildsycoca05:25
MetalProcI have tried apt-het clean and then doing apt-get update again, but it still has troubles processing kde-libs05:25
Super_Cat_Frogor rm -r ~/.kd* (will delete all your kde,kmail etc settings)05:25
MetalProcThis is what it says: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)05:25
Super_Cat_Frogmetalproc - are you using strange repo's?05:26
MetalProcSuper_Cat_Frog: Only those listed in wikis and such05:26
marcusSuper_Cat_Frog: nope... deleting whole .kde is not an option and I tried kbuildsycoca05:26
MetalProcSuper_Cat_Frog: I guess they are quite regular05:27
bzbbMetalProc, have you run the script in the topic?05:27
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stianhhey, anyone got a suggestion for an application to make vector graphics in (i.e. logo's)?05:27
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bzbbI had that problem, and the script fixed it right up05:27
marcusstianh: inkscape05:27
MetalProcbzbb: Oh, stupid me, didn't check out the topic :) I'll try it out.. Sorry everyone..05:28
sproingielovely.  debootstrap doesn't give me a working resolver05:28
sproingiemakes it pretty freggin hard to update the chroot05:28
sproingiefeh wrong chan05:30
Super_Cat_Frogcan anybody explain why my loadaverage average is about 3, yet my cpuusage is at abou 90% (90% is about right, xine is jumping)05:30
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marcuswell... I still don't have my menu back....05:46
MetalProcSeems to be working now05:47
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spiralhi06:07
spiralyippeee ! I'm under kubuntu again.. Goodbye SuSE :-)06:08
randabisyay06:08
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spiralit was hard... But I had it !! damned laptop :-p06:08
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Fhigohi .. anybody there who can tell me how to install flashplayer for konqueror?06:34
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_kkathmanFhigo have you installed it for anything else, like FireFox?06:35
Fhigono06:36
Fhigocause i havn't got installed no other browser06:36
_kkathmanok06:36
KaiLflashplugin-nonfree from multiverse.06:36
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_kkathmanwell first you need to install the player, probably the Netscape/Firefox one will be fine06:36
FhigoKaiL, ?where to get?06:37
KaiLfirst you go to /etc/apt/sources.list06:37
Fhigook06:37
_kkathmanThen, once you do that, go to Konqueror->Settings->Configure Konqueror , choose the plugins option on the left panel, then scan for where you installed it06:37
KaiLthere's a line with "universe" at the end. Put a multiverse behind.06:38
_kkathmanor you could simply go to the Macromedia site and not go through all that :)06:38
Fhigohe he 06:38
KaiLdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe multiverse06:38
KaiL...afterwards06:38
Fhigoyep KaiL 06:38
_kkathmanKaiL: look up :)06:38
KaiLif there's still a # at the beginning, remove that.06:38
Fhigook06:39
KaiL_kkathman: I try to do it the clean way, which also includes automatic updates06:39
Fhigoalso @ securty?06:39
Fhigosecurity06:39
_kkathmankinda around the elbow to get to the thumb tho :)06:39
_kkathmanhehe06:39
FhigoKaiL, ?06:39
KaiLFhigo: there will be no sec-updates for multiverse06:39
Fhigohmm06:39
Fhigoohh06:39
KaiLthey will just wait for fixed upstream versions06:40
KaiLflash is nonfree!06:40
Fhigoi just saw .. there's no multiverse06:40
Fhigoeb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe06:40
Fhigodeb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe06:40
Fhigojust these06:40
KaiLyes. put multiverse behind06:40
Fhigook06:40
Fhigodeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted06:41
Fhigodeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted06:41
Fhigodeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe06:41
Fhigodeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe06:41
Fhigorest is ok?06:41
KaiLyes06:41
Fhigonice :)06:41
KaiLnow save the file, close the editor06:41
Fhigofu** ..06:41
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Fhigoi'm no root06:41
FhigoOo06:41
KaiL...sudo ;)06:42
Fhigook yes06:42
KaiLor better "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" which is needed for a graphical editor06:42
Fhigohehe06:43
Fhigono not required ;)06:43
Fhigosooo06:43
Fhigodone06:43
Fhigo:)06:43
FhigoKaiL, what means multiverse?06:43
KaiLdebian called that "nonfree"06:43
KaiLapps, which are not under a free licence06:44
Fhigoahh06:44
Fhigook06:44
Fhigolol06:44
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flameshello, where find i knewsticker run file? can i run it standalone, not on panel?07:03
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AkeruHi there, is anyone using scim to input japanese here ?07:06
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Akerustill no one with japanese input in KDE ?07:25
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Astinus_Huulloh, is it possible to change monitor type in kubuntu without editing xorg files in a texteditor? 07:26
KaiLnot yet afair07:27
KaiLthe autodetection doesn't work that good07:28
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Akerubut monitor type you mean the resolution ?07:34
KaiLthe hsync and vsync could be autodetected, but this doesn't work that good very often...07:35
Astinus_Akeru: yes07:35
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AkeruWell you can change it trough the KDE Control center, can't you ?07:36
KaiLonly reduce the resolution07:37
Akeruyou can also select the refresh rate07:38
KaiLsometimes :)07:38
Astinus_i figured it out :)07:38
Akeruhehe07:38
KaiLafair it's quite foot, if you have the monitor configured well07:39
KaiLquite good...07:39
Astinus_oh, does kubuntu have anything like knoppix detecting and mounting partitions automatically? 07:39
KaiLnot for internal Hard Disks07:39
KaiLbut something VERY good for external devices07:39
AkeruWell, that could be nice to have indeed07:40
KaiLyes07:40
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stianhHey people. when trying to run apt in any manor (apt-get, kynaptic and synaptic) I am told to run "dpkg --configure -a". When i do so I get an error on the package "contact-lookup-applet", with a message that should translate into "missing version". Any suggestions?07:41
KaiLstianh: could you give us the exact error? (copy&paste..)07:41
AkeruHmm, how could this be done (hdd partition detection)07:42
stianhstian@shuttlestar:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a07:42
stianhdpkg: tolkingsfeil, i fila /var/lib/dpkg/status nr linje 19552 pakken contact-lookup-applet:07:42
stianh mangler version07:42
stianhthere you are07:42
KaiLAkeru: the Problem are some raid controllers, which still show the partitions manually to the system...07:42
stianhbut it is in norwegian, so it won't helo you if you're not norwegian, or speak it :P07:43
Akerushow the partitions manually ?07:43
KaiLexport LANG=C07:43
KaiL...in that console :)07:43
Astinus_what was the first public ubuntu version? 07:43
Akeruwarty I think07:43
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stianhKaiL: was that for me?07:43
Astinus_Akeru: version number?07:43
Akerustianh: yup it was or you07:44
KaiLAkeru: if you have a raid1 over hda and hdb, accessing hda seperate would destroy the data....07:44
AkeruAstinus_: 4. something07:44
KaiLAstinus_: 4.10 (=October 2004)07:44
Astinus_oh okay.07:44
AkeruKaiL: d'oh, this should be handled by the controler07:44
KaiLAkeru: yes...07:44
KaiLand until this isn fixed, pmount ignores internal disks07:45
Fhigowhats the best browser?07:45
Fhigobetter which one :07:45
stianhKaiL: i did so, and I still get the same message, and I cannot do "sudo export LANG=C"07:45
Fhigo:)07:45
KaiLFhigo: konqueror, opera, mozilla...:)07:45
Fhigo;)07:45
FhigoTHE BEST ;)07:45
KaiLstianh: sudo "export LANG=C; dpkg --configure -a"07:46
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AkeruFhigo: depends on your taste ;)07:46
Fhigook ;)07:46
stianhKaiL: results as follows:07:46
stianhstian@shuttlestar:~$ sudo "export LANG=C; dpkg --configure -a"07:46
stianhsudo: export LANG=C; dpkg --configure -a: command not found07:46
KaiLhmm07:46
KaiLsudo su07:46
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Akeru(this is why I set up a root password btw)07:47
KaiLand then both seperate07:47
KaiLAkeru: sudo su gives you a rootshell :)07:47
stianhcool :)07:47
stianhbut still, the same message on dpkg --configure -a :/07:47
KaiLhuh?07:47
Akeruyup, but I somehow don't feel good having  a password of user used as the root password07:47
stianhdpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 19552 package `contact-lookup-applet':07:48
stianh missing version07:48
stianhKaiL: "dpkg --configure -a" still returns 07:48
stianhthe above07:48
Akerustianh: the command lang=c was just to set the error message in english07:48
stianhlol07:49
stianhI see that now :)07:49
KaiLhmm07:49
KaiL`/var/lib/dpkg/status' broken07:49
KaiLbad07:49
KaiLvery very bad07:49
stianhsorry, it actually worked the first time I did export LANG=C then :)07:49
stianhKaiL: oh? :(07:50
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stianhhow very very bad?07:50
KaiLwell, that's the list of installed packages...07:50
Akeruhow can I find the packages that contains a specified file ?07:51
stianh:O07:51
stianham I right in guessing that it cannot be rebuildt?07:51
KaiLmaybe we can fix that manually07:52
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KaiLcat /var/lib/dpkg/status | grep -A3 -B3 "contact-lookup-applet"07:53
KaiLcould you paste the 7 lines, this should give?07:53
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stianh Rasqal is designed for performance, flexibility and embedding (no07:54
stianh memory leaks) and to track ongoing RDF query language work.07:54
stianhPackage: contact-lookup-applet07:54
stianhStatus: purge ok installed07:54
stianhPriority: optional07:54
stianhSection: gnome07:54
Fhigooh yes i'm lovin it ... kubuntu07:54
Fhigo;)07:54
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stianhKaiL: there's an empty line in there, which would make it seven lines07:54
KaiLhmm07:55
KaiLVERY interesting...07:55
stianhhmm07:57
stianhok, I actually vim'ed that file and scrolled down to that package07:57
stianhthe listing for that package stops after five lines07:58
stianhArchitecture: i38607:58
KaiLah, yes...07:58
KaiLremove all that 5 lines :)07:58
KaiLthen save07:58
KaiLthis SHOULD work07:59
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stianhyeah I thought I'd do that07:59
stianhand it DOES work :D07:59
stianhthanks :)07:59
Akeruback08:00
KaiLgood08:00
KaiLmaybe you need an "apt-get -f install" now08:00
stianhwhat'll that do?08:01
KaiLstianh: which filesystem and what harddisk is used for /var/...?08:01
stianhext3, and it would be hda6 I think, or hda508:01
KaiLthat'll repair missing packages, if the dependencies are broken because this package is now listed as "was never installed"08:02
KaiLI mean, which hardware08:02
stianhI have no clue08:02
stianhit's a laptop08:02
KaiLif that's a older HD already making unnormal noice, you should think about replacing it ;)08:03
stianhhehe, no it's new. i should actually know what type it is, since I put it in there myself :) but I'm not having any trouble with it (it's about two months old)08:03
KaiLnow the question is, what went wrong here....08:05
Akeru(still no one with japanese input?)08:05
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stianhKaiL: what I should have done was see when the file was last edited, before I edited it, perhaps. and then check logs08:06
KaiLinstalled or uninstalled anything08:07
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KaiL_stupid 24h disconnect08:16
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stianhany suggestions for a good ftpclient for kde that works similar to gftp?08:36
KaiL_konqueror? *g*08:36
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stianhkonqueror is a horrible ftpklient08:36
stianhslow as a turtle08:36
Anlarfunny, I can get upto 1 kilobyte/s.. but perhaps it is slow..08:37
buzlynx is fast08:37
stianha whole KILO byte? :o08:37
buzsurfing with GSM?08:38
KaiL_maybe that's a fast connection in Finnland :)08:38
stianhhehe08:38
buzthem scandinavians generally got mighty fast pipes08:38
stianhi've got 1,6mbit08:39
buzat least one thing they get for their high taxes ;)08:39
stianhmostly the sweedes that's got the fastes pipes, up to 100mbit for no money at all08:39
buzi wouldnt call 60% taxes no money at all08:39
uniq_stianh: tried kbear? (ftp-client)08:39
stianhhere in norway we are blessed with moronic businesspeople08:39
stianhuniq_: no, I'll check it out, thanks :)08:39
KaiL_100mbit? grr08:40
buzin switzerland we at least have the cablecompany fighting with the telco at some times08:40
buzso now we get 2mbit for 50E08:40
buznot quite cheap but acceptable08:40
KaiL_here nothing above 3MBIt can be payed by "normal" people...08:40
stianhyeah, Bredbndsbolaget they're called. they were starting up here in norway as well, but were squeezed away08:40
buzisnt swedish broadband a governmental organization? or at least tax founded...08:41
stianhno08:41
stianhor at least I think not, but might be subsidised since the swedish has said that everyone should get broadband nomatter where they live08:42
buzi thought it was08:42
buzi don't think any sane company would provide 10mbit out in the woods08:42
stianhhehe, no, which is I why I suppose they are paid to set up the initial connection08:43
buzso essentially it IS tax funded08:44
stianhnot entirely08:44
buzlaying the pipe is the expensive part08:44
stianhsweden isn't all wasteland08:44
buzyeah sure08:44
buzbut its not like a private company could afford fibre to the home like in hongkong08:44
buzi sure wouldn't mind those pipes ;)08:46
stianh:)08:46
uniq_in norway the government pays for some of the infrastructure needed to provide connections to remote places.08:46
stianhthere is a private company here in town who deliver 100mbit to appartment buildings and similar08:47
uniq_i'd guess .se does the same.08:47
stianhmy sister is moving to one of those places soon, a week after she has moved in I'll have a server at her appartment :P08:47
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Akerustill no one using japanese input in KDE ?08:53
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KaiL_nobody with problems?09:15
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mrmanicmy install of kopete seems to have issues in hoary.09:25
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mrmanicI can't receive AIM messages09:25
mrmanicbut I can receive MSN messages09:25
mrmanicanybody else having these issues?09:25
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mrmanicapparently other people are having these issues09:38
mrmanicbut no apparent resolution09:38
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reagleBRKLNi seem to be missing my tools>validate09:46
reagleBRKLNin konq09:46
kikovdcopserver: relocation error: /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol: _ZN8QGVector4readER11QDataStrea -> is this normal?09:46
reagleBRKLNmaybe i need kde-extras?09:47
reagleBRKLNno....09:47
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darkultimabonjour09:48
darkultimaeuh j'ai un problme avec le live cd de kubuntu :/09:48
reagleBRKLNdang it, where is it...?09:48
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darkultimaquelqu'un pour m'aider svp?09:49
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reagleBRKLNhuh, this says konq-plugins, and I have it installed: http://docs.kde.org/en/3.4/kdebase/konqueror/konq-plugin.html09:51
AndreHhas anyone tried using kdevelop and the qt-designer? I want to edit a cpp file in the qt-designer, but I get the following error: "there is no plugin for editing c++ code installed"09:51
AndreHbut kdevelop3-plugins is installed09:51
reagleBRKLNoops, i mean kdeaddons09:51
oshI'm looking for a guide on kubuntu and WEP. Whenever I turn it on the wireless card stops working. :-(09:52
reagleBRKLNah. it's configurable now in "configure extensions"09:53
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oshHmm, found the answer myself. It's here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25949.html09:55
oshIf anyone should run into the same problem.09:55
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KaiL_?10:14
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kkathmangreetings all :)10:15
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KaiL_fresh problems?10:15
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kkathmanhey there KaiL_ wassup :)10:17
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KaiL_very few hardware problems here...10:20
KaiL_except X config10:20
KaiL_really nobody with some unworking devices?10:20
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oshme...10:22
KaiL_tell us10:22
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oshright now I'm doing some crap with my wireless card. I'm close to getting it to work with wep... I think...10:23
oshthen on my other machine (amd64) I had issues with both sound and video and my gfx-card wasn't accelerated. but that was ubuntu, not kubuntu.10:24
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KaiL_if it's ubuntu 5.10, the problem is valid for kubuntu too10:26
KaiL_sound: onboard nforce4?10:26
oshKaiL_: No, actually a audigy2 so I really expected it to work. Someone said something about a mixer but I didn't investigate much. I just noted that it didn't work. 10:27
KaiL_that's strange, as I got an Audigy2 to work :)10:27
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oshAnd on my little lappy here it appears to be standard to crash out from the kde control center (admin mode) rather than a graceful exit. ;-)10:28
KaiL_start kmix and look, if there are totally silly values for master and pcm10:28
oshNow it appears as if the battery is running out on my laptop so I'v got to go. I'll come back tomorrow though.10:28
KaiL_grab a cable :)10:29
oshG'nite. Sorry for just bitching about things not working and then leaving but I've got to go. Later.10:29
KaiL_try tomorrow..10:29
oshI will.10:29
KaiL_somebody else? :)10:29
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alleeKaiL_: I have a cable.  thx ;)10:39
KaiL_anymody already tried a VIA K8T890 or nForce 4 Mainboard (means pci-express..)?10:40
KaiL_that was for osh 10:40
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essobi_Jeez, #ubuntu is a mad house.10:40
KaiL_why?10:41
kkathmanjust a lot of people in there asking questions10:41
essobi_Yea..10:42
KaiL_maybe I should try to help there a bit with the hardware issues?10:42
essobi_Man.. I can't figure out out for the life of my what I'm building wrong in my kernels. :|10:42
kkathmanhey KaiL_  I was going to check that script up there that will fix the kdelibs bug, but when I click it, the system comes back and wants to know what application to use to run it...what should I use?10:42
KaiL_essobi_: use the kernel images shipped with (k)ubuntu :)10:43
alleekkathman: shift click?10:43
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KaiL_kkathman: the script needs to be run as root - "sudo su kdelibs-debug.sh"10:43
essobi_KaiL_ I got a radeon X300 and the drivers with ubuntu are not the latest release10:45
KaiL_essobi_: then you only need to rebuild that module10:45
essobi_So to use it multi-head I need to build the newest ones, and that means building a kernel10:45
kkathmanKaiL_: I know, I'd love to save it, but it doesnt give me a chance...its just opening up this dialog that asks me to run an application :)  ARGG!10:45
KaiL_headers: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`10:45
essobi_I did that.10:46
essobi_it won't build with just those.10:46
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essobi_Kail Mmm. I'm going to go zap the DRM modules, and re-run depmod10:47
kkathmanok, then how do I just download that script?10:49
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essobi_KaiL_ Entering directory `/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686-smp/build'  make[1] : *** No rule to make target `modules'.  Stop.  Exits on an error 2.. :\10:50
KaiL_what on earth tries the ATI driver there..?!?10:50
essobi_MEhe10:52
essobi_the make.sh to build the modules..10:53
kkathmanaha...got it... had to just download it and run...do I need to now run that last update that didnt go?10:54
essobi_KaiL_ That actually works when I build the kernel by hand.. build exists and it proceeds..10:55
DaSkreechThe Live CD Doesn't mount drives?10:56
DaSkreechExcept Swap Drives?10:56
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DaSkreech*pokes*11:07
gdh<squeak!>11:08
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gdh:)11:09
DaSkreechSo is there any work being done to get the Live CD to automount existing drives?11:09
gdhno idea, but I think that's a bad idea for something that 'doesn't touch your disks at all'11:11
DaSkreechwell it half way does it11:12
DaSkreechWhen in media it has all the drives as /dev11:12
DaSkreechSeems a bit silly11:12
gdhhm that sounds a bit broken, yeh.. I'm no devel so have no idea =)11:12
DaSkreechOk11:12
DaSkreechI like the mindmap idea though11:13
NextorHello! I installed Kubuntu yesterday and I want to install kdevelop, and it is not in the repository. How can I install it?11:13
DaSkreechKubuntu (I suppose by extension of KDE3.4) is really polished though11:14
DaSkreechNextor: It isn't?11:14
DaSkreechNextor: Which repository are you using?11:14
Nextorummm DaSkreech wait...11:14
DaSkreech:-)11:14
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Nextormain restricted,  I suppose11:15
DaSkreechtry universe11:16
DaSkreechYou know what they say.. If its not in the universe....11:16
gdh... then it's probably non-free in multiverse, if you believe that exists =)11:17
NextorSomeone said to me that repository can harm my system when I do a dist-upgrade11:17
gdhNextor: if you're using an 'unstable' system (i.e. unreleased) then yes11:18
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NextorI use horay. I was using debian for three years But I started to use gentoo two years ago...11:19
Nextoris horay unstable or stable?11:19
gdhhoary is now stable - was released a few weeks ago11:19
gdhupgrades to hoary are only small bugfixes + security updates11:20
DaSkreechNextor: how long have you been using Kubuntu?11:20
Nextor:)11:20
Nextor2 days11:20
DaSkreechYou should be coool then11:21
essobi_Hmm11:21
Nextorthat is the problem... I know about sarge, sid and other debian repositories but notjhing about restricted, universe, multiverse....11:21
essobi_yeaaa.11:22
KaiL_restricted: nonfree drivers, which are still on the CD (ATI, Nvidia...)11:22
essobi_I like kubuntu/ubuntu and all, but man.. there's still a few things to work out.. I think I'll come back in a few months and revisit..11:22
KaiL_universe: free apps, which are not on the cd11:22
KaiL_multiverse: other nonfree stuff11:22
Nextorthen, can I uncomment the universe apt lines without problem in my upgrades?11:23
DaSkreechessobi_: What do you want fixed?11:23
Nextor:) Thanks, kdevelop is the universe!!!11:24
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essobi_DaSkreech I don't know.. I came from a debian background.. and something just seems foreign to me.. not sure what..11:25
DaSkreechhow long have you been playing with it?11:25
Nextoressobi_: I came from gentoo and I used debian years ago, and (k)ubuntu is different11:25
pv_It's pretty similar to debian unstable11:26
Nextortoo easy xD11:26
essobi_yea.. but thing work when I do an apt-get in debian unstable. ;)11:26
essobi_And this whole xorg switch over is wierd too11:26
Nextorxorg is better than xfree IMHO11:27
pv_I haven't seen any problems in Ubuntu with apt-get.11:28
DaSkreechessobi_: Well I suppose Debian is purer11:29
DaSkreechessobi_: What broke in apt-get for you?11:29
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GameCathi11:38
DaSkreechHI11:39
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GameCatanyone in who knows how to get qt to work for compiling apps?11:40
Nextorapt-get install libqt3-headers qt3-dev-tools libqt3-mt-dev11:40
NextorI think this is enough11:41
Nextorisn't it?11:41
GameCatnope11:41
GameCat$ dpkg -l|grep qt311:41
GameCatii  libqt3-headers 3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt3 header files11:41
GameCatii  libqt3-mt-dev  3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt development files (Threaded)11:41
GameCatii  libqt3c102     3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt GUI Library, Version 311:41
GameCatii  libqt3c102-mt  3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), V11:41
GameCatii  qt3-designer   3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt3 Designer11:41
GameCatii  qt3-dev-tools  3.3.3-7ubuntu3 Qt3 development tools11:41
GameCatalready have those11:41
DaSkreechWhat are you compiling?11:43
pv_They should be enough. If not, the problem may also be in the app's configure script.11:43
GameCatit's any kde apps I try to compile11:43
GameCatall fail with checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!11:43
GameCatcould it be something gcc is missing? what do I need on that side?11:46
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NextorI've installed qt designer and assistant and they don't appear in the menu, why?11:58
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_roothi11:58
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_matejhellow12:00
DaSkreechNextor: I Figure some stuff just won't turn up12:00
_matejcan anybody paste me his sources.list plssssssss _12:00
_matejcan anybody paste me his sources.list pls? (pvt)12:00
DaSkreech;-)12:01

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