=== motaboy [~motaboy@host199-36.pool80182.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === darwinist_ [~darwinist@vpn-144-15.vpn.uva.nl] has joined #kubuntu === SpookyET [~not4_u@24-196-233-44.cpe.ga.charter.com] has left #kubuntu [] === spiral [~spiral@lafilaire-4-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Bye] === darwinist__ [~darwinist@82-168-225-198-bbxl.xdsl.tiscali.nl] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.96] has joined #kubuntu === martijn [~martijn@50.170.62.62.internet9t.9massy1-1-ro-bas-2.9tel.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:25] hello everyone [01:26] someone listening? [01:26] maybe :) [01:27] is this the place to tell about kubuntu bugs? === bluetang [~bluetang@pool-71-113-3-105.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === closure [~ubel@adsl-065-013-010-009.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] ooooooooooook [01:29] i apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday [01:30] now KDE is royally screwed with no K menu and gave me like 5 errors when it loaded [01:30] any ideas? [01:30] closure: sudo "dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb" [01:30] :)) [01:30] thank you [01:30] i was wondering about that [01:31] maybe sudo "apt-get -f install" after that [01:31] closure: i fixed that by rm'ing ~/.kde dir and restarting my X session [01:32] sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb [01:32] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--install): [01:32] cannot access archive: No such file or directory [01:32] Errors were encountered while processing: [01:32] /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb [01:32] that's what i got when i did that kail [01:32] hmm [01:32] closure, you just updated kde 3.3 to 3.4? [01:33] try apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade again... [01:33] apparently [01:33] cowlike [01:33] it should get fresh kdelibs (if you don't already had this update..) [01:33] also [01:33] my Konsole [01:33] uhm, there was never any kde3.3 in kubuntu!? [01:33] now has a white background as opposed to the black w/ white text [01:33] Hey KaiL, you seem to be the one that knows [01:34] I just had problem in getting in administration mode from kconsole [01:34] martijn: sudo su [01:34] if you can't get anything else to work, closure, just remove the .kde dir in your home dir and restart your X session. you're having the same conflict in kde config files that I experienced [01:34] i finally had todo sudo from konsole [01:34] but the button inside kconsole seems broken [01:35] Cowlike, how exactly do i restart my xsession? [01:35] just logout [01:35] martijn: you mean kcontrol? [01:35] yes, logout [01:35] yes [01:35] the controlcenter.... [01:35] ah [01:35] and sudo works? [01:35] yes [01:35] hmm [01:35] hmm ... [01:35] that's strange [01:36] you are the second reporting this today.......... [01:36] it first seems to logging in [01:36] Riddell: ping? [01:36] Preconfiguring packages ... [01:36] (Reading database ... 83355 files and directories currently installed.) [01:36] Preparing to replace kdelibs-data 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (using .../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb) ... [01:36] Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ... [01:36] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--unpack): [01:36] and then it just doesnt [01:36] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf [01:36] Errors were encountered while processing: [01:36] /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb [01:36] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [01:36] that's what i got when i apt-get dist-upgrade [01:36] i got the same error yesterday === chavo [~chavo@37.sub-166-153-50.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:36] i shutdown last night and booted today and it's screwed [01:37] now the dpkg -i --force-overwrite.. should help [01:37] Cowlike, will rm'ing .kde fix it? [01:37] ah, filename broken.. [01:39] closure: sudo "dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_43a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb [01:39] grrr [01:39] no such files [01:39] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_43a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb (--install): [01:39] cannot access archive: No such file or directory [01:39] Errors were encountered while processing: [01:39] /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_43a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb [01:39] KaiL: yo [01:39] sudo "dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.0-0ubuntu3.1_all.deb" [01:40] Riddell: kcontrol + sudo doesn't like each other today? [01:40] in quotations? [01:40] not required [01:41] nice [01:41] KaiL: Anlar kknown problem, and the biggest in kubuntu, actually I think it's from upstream [01:41] reinstalling is the only way I've found [01:41] seemed to work that time [01:41] Riddell: and is there anything against the kdelibs problems? [01:41] Oh KaiL: the same problem from accessing the services from konqueror [01:41] (though i guiess its the same problem..) [01:42] clashing with knetworkconf? [01:42] yep [01:42] first this overwrite, and then it seams to break kubuntu-default-settings [01:42] yes [01:43] what does it do with kubuntu-default-settings? [01:43] this internet access is terrible [01:43] the default settings are just ignored as it looks [01:44] do you have /etc/kderc [01:46] interesting... [01:46] that file isn't there here?! [01:46] but dpkg says it's in kubuntu-default-settings [01:47] that's another issue I have no clue about [01:47] same for you? ;) [01:47] remove --purge kubuntu-default-settings then install again [01:47] how to purge without killing kdm? ;)) [01:48] ..which will kill X... [01:49] extracted the file over mc, let's see, if that also solves the other one here... === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.96] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.96] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] hmm, k, that's fixed too... === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.96] has joined #kubuntu [01:54] Riddell: so no solution for the kcontrol+sudo? [01:56] hmm, but why /etc/kderc runs away... [01:58] I havn't properly investigated either I'm afraid [01:58] you can reinstall kcontrol and it might work [01:58] martijn: could you try? [01:58] here it works (also strange, why it doesn't break for everybody) [01:58] i can try i guess [01:58] apt-get install --reinstall kcontrol === closure [~ubel@adsl-065-013-010-009.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:59] ok [01:59] new problem [01:59] i can't get any KDE apps online now [01:59] closure: hmm... [01:59] i'm in BitchX in a konsole window [01:59] but i can't get xchat online [01:59] it seems to be willinh my install cd!! [01:59] according to KControl Center my network is cool [01:59] what's that now? [02:00] martijn: yes [02:00] and i can access my other box's files [02:00] closure: sudo "apt-get -f install" [02:00] ...if there's something not clean installed.... [02:01] reinstalling === CellarDoor [~CellarDoo@d211-31-240-222.dsl.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:01] reinstalling works! [02:01] i mean [02:01] this is just getting mor interesting [02:02] martijn i'm aware reinstalling works [02:02] it does work after reinstalling [02:02] martijn: wonderful! [02:02] i would like to fix it as opposed to reinstalling and getting all my damn apps again [02:02] k [02:02] let me logout and try again [02:02] Riddell: maybe something of the kdelibs has some very destructive postrm scripts? [02:02] or prerm [02:03] but the package does not seem online as i activated the other sources on source.list [02:03] the cdrom is on top of the file, so it get's used [02:03] ok [02:03] if you comment that out, it isn't used any more [02:03] ok [02:04] ...should be done, if you install for other people and don't let the cdrom there [02:04] oh just another minor point [02:04] i just installed firefox [02:04] default website is in ubuntu-artwork === closure [~ubel@adsl-065-013-010-009.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:04] which is not required for firefox installation [02:05] woo [02:05] closure: all working again? [02:05] now i just get to reconfigure KDE [02:05] yep [02:05] i reset my config files so i have to reconfig now [02:05] I think, the half-installed kdelibs doesn't work [02:05] what do you mean? [02:05] it's running now [02:06] yes [02:06] or did that dpkg command reset it to the old one? [02:06] you said, yesterday you ignored the error [02:06] well yeah [02:06] somebody said it would be fixed in a couple days [02:06] and nobody told me that dpkg command to fix it [02:07] so the new kdelibs didn't get configured -> and didn't work [02:07] I don't want to know, how "average users" will react on this [02:07] ahh ok [02:07] I guess with removing kubuntu :( [02:07] well that's what i like about linux [02:07] i'm still learning a lot [02:08] but you can fix shit in linux [02:08] you don't have to remove everything === whiteknight [~james@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu [02:08] yes, indeed [02:08] that alone is crunk ta deaf shawdy lo [02:08] l [02:08] but i agree that does need to be fixed [02:08] for Windows problems even MS supports first recommends reinstall :) [02:08] ok thanks and by folks! [02:09] this kdelibs update fixes 1 bug - and creats many, TO MANY new [02:09] KaiL, lol i always loved it when i would call my box's manufacturer asking how to fix anything and they would say "have you tried reinstalling" [02:09] hehe [02:10] even reinstalling in linux [02:10] KDE is still seperate from console [02:10] btw. I didn't have anybody here, who had a "please reinstall" problem :) [02:10] so you can maintain your files and such [02:10] now i wonder where baghira went [02:10] normally 1-line-fixes here [02:10] i'm guessing that it went away when i deleted .kde huh? [02:11] install kwin-baghira :) [02:11] kwin-baghira? [02:11] what's that? [02:12] ahh same thing i guess [02:12] kwin theme "baghira" :) [02:12] ahh ok === kkathman [~kkathman@h-66-167-142-40.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] i am reinstalling it according to synaptic it was still instaled [02:13] err installed [02:13] greetings all :) [02:13] closure: and not listed...? [02:13] watch this great animations and laugh at misfortune that falls on bill gates [02:13] http://nurme.yi.org/~sdogi/Intro.avi.torrent [02:14] hey kkathman, how you been? [02:15] smouche: Howdy!! How are you ?? [02:16] pretty good. get to sleep in a little tomorrow; that's cheered me up a lot! [02:16] smouche: thats a good thing! [02:17] KaiL, it's listed [02:17] ok [02:17] just listed as installed [02:17] oh you mean in kcontrol [02:17] no it wasn't in there [02:17] and now it is..?!? [02:18] not sure === KaiL starts to dislike this update more and more..... [02:18] let me get there === darkaudi1 [~bpack@pool-151-205-45-125.clrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:19] yep [02:19] now it is [02:19] ok [02:19] kinda weird [02:19] lol [02:19] closure: I bet the kdelibs update deleted something here ;) [02:19] what does that update fix anyways? === __Ace__ [~love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu [02:19] a security hole [02:19] i'll bet i never even encountered the damn thing [02:20] well that's certainly no fun [02:20] can you use sudo in kcontrol? [02:20] i wonder how many people hacked my planet [02:20] IN kcontrol? [02:20] what do you mean [02:20] maybe to set network devices... [02:20] the "admin mode" [02:21] let me see [02:21] KaiL -- the admin mode were giving me problems, so I had to "sudo kcontrol" to start it, and that worked better [02:21] smouche: apt-get install --reinstall kcontrol [02:22] KaiL -- why, is there some bug fix I don't know about? [02:22] hrm [02:22] no [02:22] this is not cool [02:22] closure: as I said...:) [02:22] k [02:22] smouche: you installed the kdelibs update? :) [02:22] yes [02:22] reinstall kcontrol? [02:22] that seams to be "a bit" broken [02:22] closure: apt-get install --reinstall kcontrol [02:22] cool [02:24] oh, and you both miss /etc/kderc, I guess - there it is: http://moba.linuxfaqs.de/kderc [02:25] ? [02:25] that's the kubuntu-look&feel in KDE [02:26] cool, KaiL - thanks. [02:26] and then you can watch trailer about deadly penguin [02:26] http://nurme.yi.org/~sdogi/Intro.avi.torrent [02:27] ok enough [02:27] goodnight [02:27] ok now to figure out how i did those panels again lol [02:29] crap [02:29] i deleted my taskbar how do i get it back === spreda [user3@203-87-75-120.dial-lns2.nsw.chariot.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [02:32] ok, enough: http://moba.linuxfaqs.de/kdelibs-debug.sh [02:32] a script, which should repair all the damage [02:33] if somebody has something more, tell me. [02:33] should i run that KaiL ? [02:33] or am i cool? [02:33] not required [02:33] k [02:34] can you tell me how to get my taskbar back? [02:34] that script does all that, you just did [02:34] the panel is there? [02:34] i deleted it [02:34] i clicked "remove taskbar" [02:34] i was trying to seperate it and put it on the bottom [02:35] but the panel itself is still there? [02:35] so rightclick on it... [02:35] yeah [02:35] just not the taskbar [02:35] ahhh sweet! [02:35] thanks man [02:36] ;) [02:36] damn this is annoying [02:36] it's like initial set up [02:36] only all over again === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.96] has joined #kubuntu === _eXhumed [~papercut@208.53.170.44] has joined #kubuntu === _eXhumed is now known as eXhumed [02:50] lol, I've been through that about 8 times with kubuntu, closure! [02:50] (mainly back in unstable hoary days though) [02:52] this is the first time [02:52] i've been running it for i'd say 2 months maybe 3 [02:52] hopefuly it will be the last [02:52] i'm saving my config after i set this shit up though [02:52] that's for sure [02:53] good plan. I never do that. need to start. [02:53] probleem is right now [02:53] i can't remember all the stuff i had set lol [02:53] or how i had it set [02:53] i'm trying colors right now [02:54] i can't figure out which one i liked === incubii [~incubii@cor9-ppp902.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:06] whos good with fluxbox [03:06] not i [03:06] >8-) [03:08] hmm i know how to configure windows to maximize 24px from the bottom in BBlean for windows but it doesnt work for fluxbox [03:08] its annoying [03:08] yep i have no idea what you are talking about >8-) [03:09] thats alright i talk to myself anyway [03:13] gooood goood [03:16] konq and t'bird won't go on internet via server, but ping works and other box is on internet via server. gateway is in /etc/network/interfaces. clues, anyone? === orospakr [~orospakr@CPE0004762b7051-CM001225701f0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu === darkaudi1 is now known as darkaudit [03:21] hrm [03:21] anybody know how to make my icons 3D? [03:22] or could someone tell me how i'm sure someone knows how === ..[topic/#kubuntu:closure] : http://www.kubuntu.de/party/ http://www.kubuntu.org/hoary-release.php | Feedback please: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KubuntuHoaryReleaseComments | rumours are, error messages can help debugging :) | http://moba.linuxfaqs.de/kdelibs-debug.sh script will fix kdelibs bug === panickedthumb [~travis@68.118.21.165] has joined #kubuntu === philip [~philip@15-7.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === bzbb [~john@pc-68-118-189-186.will.ct.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:44] I have a broken kdelins-data [03:44] kdelibs === alyks [~alyks@66.109.159.132] has joined #kubuntu [03:45] I'm trying to use apt-get to install ogle, but it doesn't seem to work [03:45] I type this: [03:45] bzbb: you can be the first to try the script in the /topic === tjs [~tjs@deepde.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:45] apt-get source ogle [03:45] but it only says it can't find the source package [03:45] alyks: sudo apt-get install ogle [03:46] source will download the source into the current directory [03:46] ooh, thanks [03:46] I did do the sudo [03:46] and if I do apt-get install ogle it says it can't find the package also [03:47] gday, I just apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop on my hoary installation, and there are a few issues. stuff like kmail and korganiser have totally empty configure dialog windows for instance [03:48] and my menus seem to have no kde apps in them at all [03:49] alyks: it's in universe [03:49] anyone else seen this sort of thing? [03:49] ? [03:50] kopete also seems to have no functional configure dialog, but konversation does [03:50] what could I be missing? [03:51] what do you mean "universe"? [03:52] the script worked === flames [~flames@caracas-1218.adsl.interware.hu] has joined #kubuntu [03:54] hi, how can i make a screenshot from my screen in kde? like printscreen under windows [03:55] go into the menu [03:55] under the graphics one [03:55] and click on ksnapshot [03:55] thx!! === jsubl2 [~jsubl2@209.144.23.220] has joined #kubuntu === Quinn_Away [~quinn@67.21.72.234] has joined #kubuntu === Quinn_Away is now known as Quinn_Storm [04:03] I can't get ogle to install with apt-get [04:04] oh, he's gone [04:04] I can't find the universe wiki page === incubii [~incubii@cor9-ppp3025.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [04:13] bzbb look at the topic [04:13] get that script === kkathman [~kkathman@h-66-167-142-40.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:13] evening again, all :) === omni_lonnie [~lonnie@home.limbonia.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:23] evening [04:26] closure, I did and it worked [04:26] coolio [04:26] thank KaiL i think he wrote it [04:31] https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUKDE everyone sign up! [04:33] Has anyone installed wine, and been able to get the Microsoft Installer to work...I have a couple of CD's that require the Microsoft Installer to install their product. [04:33] Riddell: what is it [04:35] Riddell: nm.. site finally came up that explains it === billytwowilly is now known as bungsmachine === bungsmachine is now known as billytwowilly [04:39] the wiki is a little slow === moist [~moist@60-240-186-63.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [04:41] damm I've lost all sound agian [04:42] jsubl2: try accessing it form australia :( === closure [~ubel@adsl-065-013-010-009.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:43] ok. Riddell so, you need to be a developer to be on a motu team [04:44] jsubl2: you need to make packages, then you become MOTU when you are wise [04:44] it's pretty easy to become a MOTU [04:44] do sign yourself up if you want to help [04:44] Riddell: ok.. i see === SilentKiller [~chatzilla@69-0-10-67.mrdnct.adsl.snet.net] has joined #kubuntu === eggy [~eggy@eggy.active.supporter.pdpc] has joined #kubuntu === moist [~moist@60-240-186-63.tpgi.com.au] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === esher [~esher@ns1.debianshells.de] has joined #kubuntu === Mestapheles [~Captain@d142-59-231-163.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === ttf_ [~tom@p83.129.16.215.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.96] has joined #kubuntu === panickedthumb [~travis@68.118.21.165] has joined #kubuntu === andrewski [~andrewski@pool-70-110-186-53.phil.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:17] does anyone here use kaudiocreator? === closure [~ubel@adsl-065-013-010-009.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [~claydoh@65.99.187.96] has joined #kubuntu === _luis [~luis@200.82.172.5] has joined #kubuntu === lmora [~luis@200.82.172.5] has joined #kubuntu === infornography [~none@211.27.204.151] has joined #kubuntu [05:35] konq and t'bird won't go on internet via server, but ping works and this box is on via server. gateway is in /etc/network/interfaces. old lappy will work on samw cat.5 cable, so its' in the box somewhere! clues, anyone? please? [05:37] samw/same^ [05:37] I am having trouble doing an 'apt-get upgrade,' the package 'kdelibs-data' returns an error. Anybody else had this problem and know how to get it to work? [05:38] The error says something about 'trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/default.kde', which is also in package knetworkconf' [05:40] see last part of topic, inforngraphy [05:40] Right, I'm an idiot. Sorry about that [05:41] And thanks [05:41] np [05:42] does anyone else think filelight rocks? === billytwowilly is now known as bung === bung is now known as billytwowilly [05:48] andrewski, what's Filelight? [05:48] cd / [05:48] closure: check it out in apt; it shows your file sizes in a pie chart. [05:48] hrm [05:48] closure: particularly useful for me in my rather large music collection. [05:49] might help if i had my collection on this box [05:49] this is just my little toy laptop i keep in my den for television computing [05:49] really movies and such [05:49] cause i'm that addicted [05:49] lol [05:50] gotta have my net man! can't live without it! === closure [~ubel@adsl-065-013-010-009.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:13] oooooooooooook [06:14] does anyone have problems with KDE just completely shutting down and then the xserver restarts? [06:14] just at random? [06:14] closure: not heard of any such thing [06:14] well [06:14] i can't figure it out [06:14] no idea what i do when it occurs [06:14] closure: did you look at X's log? [06:15] nope [06:15] didn't know they existed lol === infornography [~none@211.27.204.151] has left #kubuntu ["thanks"] [06:15] closure: might be helpful. :P [06:15] where do i find uch a thing? [06:15] closure: and do you use compositing? [06:15] such a thing [06:15] composting? [06:15] what's that? [06:15] closure: /var/log/X/ or something like that. [06:15] closure: kwin's transparency/shadows and the like. [06:15] closure: if you don't know, you probably don't. :P [06:17] but i'm off to bed.... [06:17] some shit has shadows and stuff but i don't think so [06:17] i was trying to find where to turn off all that fancy shit earlier [06:18] i don't like fading menus and scrolling and all that non sense [06:20] damni [06:20] t [06:20] i hate it when that happens [06:20] Riddell, do you know which one of these logs would be the one to look at? [06:20] xorg or xfree? [06:25] closure: xorg if you're using hoary [06:27] sealab is retiring!?!? [06:27] that's a kubuntu question btw [06:29] who? what? === jago [~jago@24.231.191.215.bay.mi.chartermi.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:38]