[12:04] <zul> how is sydney tseng?
[12:04] <tseng> good thanks
[12:04] <zul> has the bof started yet?
[12:05] <tseng> no
[12:05] <tseng> an hour
[12:05] <zul> ah
[01:31] <schweeb> howdy, dholbach
[01:31] <ajmitch_> morning
[01:39] <dholbach> hey schweeb, ajmitch_ :-)
[01:39] <schweeb> how's Australia
[01:40] <dholbach> schweeb: mark has his talk
[01:40] <dholbach> is having
[01:42] <schweeb> awesome
[01:42] <Burgundavia> what is the great sabdfl saying?
[02:07] <zul> *cough* flumotion *cough*
[02:10] <Burgundavia> is there a stream?
[02:11] <zul> nope
[07:01] <koke> ogra: dholbach where are you now?
[07:03] <ogra> koke, i'm in sublime1
[07:03] <ogra> (where we had the expanding-universe bof
[07:06] <Burgundavia> ogra, I did some more expansion of the gis page, looking for stuff that is already packaged
[07:07] <Burgundavia> is it still useful for me to continue doing that?
[07:08] <dholbach> koke: newsletter bof
[07:15] <tseng> dholbach: !
[07:15] <dholbach> tseng: whats up?
[07:15] <tseng> nm
[07:16] <tseng> what bof next?
[07:17] <tseng> toolchain or kernel
[07:20] <koke> maybe thinclients or toolchain for me
[07:22] <dholbach> where's toolchain?
[07:23] <ajmitch_> sublime 2
[07:26] <tseng> who has working usbmass
[07:36] <ogra> Burgundavia, wow, great :)
[07:36] <Burgundavia> ogra, I am about half done doing that opengis page, should I keep on working on it?
[07:39] <ogra> opengis ?
[07:39] <ogra> you mean the debian list ?
[07:40] <Burgundavia> the opengis.org page, that lists all the hundreds of programs
[07:40] <ogra> ah, the opensourcegis.org
[07:40] <Burgundavia> I have been checking those what they are and if they are packaged
[07:40] <ogra> if youre already half done, and like to go on, go on ;)
[07:40] <Burgundavia> ok
[07:41] <Burgundavia> I will only do it if it is useful for eventuallly getting them into ubuntu
[10:45] <\sh> morning
[10:49] <\sh> ok..now i'm working on https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/412
[10:50] <ajmitch_> hi \sh
[10:51] <\sh> morning ajmitch
[10:51] <\sh> well, the actual version of eric3 is running perfekt
[10:52] <\sh> but not this one in hoary
[10:52] <\sh> bti qsizepolicy looks like, it's a problem with python-qt
[10:52] <\sh> the segmentation fault a problem of eric
[12:36] <susus> ogra: ping
[02:18] <tseng> hi ogra
[02:18] <ogra> hey, still awake tseng  ?
[02:18] <tseng> yes and no
[02:18] <tseng> dinner here takes so long
[02:19] <Treenaks> tseng: I'm sure it's nothing compared to Spanish dinners ;)
[02:19] <tseng> i dont like the food here
[02:19] <tseng> the dinners anyway, its rather odd stuff
[02:20] <Treenaks> "odd stuff"?
[02:20] <tseng> yes
[02:20] <Treenaks> chunks of cow?
[02:20] <ajmitch_> bbl :)
[02:20] <tseng> oh and, there are 2 of each course on the menu
[02:20] <tseng> and you randomly get one
[02:20] <Treenaks> cool
[02:39] <tseng> whip|udu: ping?
[02:40] <whip|udu> hey
[02:41] <whip|udu> tseng: yeah?
[02:48] <tseng> whip|udu: tell schweed he is my bish
[02:48] <tseng> schweeb
[04:36] <\sh> re
[06:43] <trulux> what's the font used in the mono logo? :)
[06:50] <Burgundavia> #dashboard or #mono might give you a better answer
[06:59] <trulux> Burgundavia: I think it's the first off-topic question I make in this channel after a big couple of questions regarding Ubuntu development, just asking as here we have some Mono lovers
[06:59] <Burgundavia> hmm
[06:59] <Burgundavia> who did the mono logo?
[07:01] <trulux> Burgundavia: should I know it? :)
[07:19] <herve> hi
[07:20] <trulux> hey herve
[07:21] <trulux> herve: do you have some free time now?
[07:21] <herve> hardly
[07:21] <\sh> hey herve
[07:22] <\sh> herve: are u working on the python-sip qt3 and kde packages?
[07:22] <herve> not anymore
[07:23] <\sh> herve: shit..
[07:23] <herve> I tried my hands on them a few weeks ago now
[07:23] <\sh> we should provide actual versions and pykde is only in the snapshot release usable
[07:24] <herve> you mean there's an upstream not packaged in debian?
[07:24] <\sh> herve: I didn't check breezy right now, but I think they don't use pykde-snapshot from 20050316
[07:24] <\sh> cause the 3.11.x is broken
[07:24] <\sh> lemme check
[07:25] <herve> trulux, what was on your mind?
[07:25] <herve> \sh, the logic would drive to package stable versions, not snapshots :-)
[07:26] <herve> \sh, all 3.11.x or < 3.11.3 ?
[07:26] <\sh> herve: there is only one official 3.11.x == 3.11.3
[07:26] <trulux> herve: the final libssp packages
[07:27] <herve> trulux, I'm afraid it's a too big fish for my few skills
[07:29] <trulux> herve: I don't think so
[07:30] <trulux> in the other hand, I have partially finished the gcc-3.4-hardened package, just that I don't know how to make it "moving", at least virtually, /usr/bin/ld to the created tmp dir, it's throwing errors due to the obvious unexistence of the file within the package source tree
[07:30] <trulux> let's say, package build tree
[07:30] <herve> \sh, you refer to python-kde3 ?
[07:30] <herve> trulux, what would I have to do?
[07:32] <\sh> herve: jepp
[07:32] <\sh> hmm...qlist.h is not there anymore
[07:32] <\sh> in the sip file but it's included..removing it ;)
[07:32] <herve> \sh, I saw the latest changes we are missing wrt debian, and they seem quite interesting
[07:33] <trulux> herve: just test them and look at them so, you can have an idea before uploading them which is something we need to have done
[07:34] <\sh> well...finally I'm compiling by hand now :)
[07:34] <herve> trulux, I can't upload you know
[07:34] <herve> hi AstralJava
[07:34] <AstralJava> Hi herve!
[07:34] <AstralJava> ...and all. :)
[07:35] <\sh> and the unstable package of pykde is 3.11.3
[07:36] <herve> \sh, -4
[07:36] <herve> we have -1
[07:36] <\sh> herve: but ours is against python2.3 and not 2.4
[07:36] <\sh> but sip4-qt3 is against 2.4
[07:37] <herve> trulux, maybe in about two hours
[07:37] <herve> \sh, that's part of the mess I tried to solve
[07:38] <\sh> ok..lets wait for the sync of those packages
[07:38] <\sh> cause on breezy we're always with -1
[07:38] <herve> you know, you are one of the people who would make this sync
[07:38] <herve> I doubt it will be autosync
[07:39] <herve> because it was altered for ubuntu
[07:39] <\sh> herve: ok..i will deal with it later ;)
[07:39] <\sh> cause those packages are really messy
[07:39] <\sh> eric3 the same
[07:40] <herve> I tried eric3 a few days ago and it ran fine
[07:40] <\sh> updated version is running like a unicorn...smooth and nice with stars sprinkling
[07:40] <\sh> herve: but not with our versions of pyqt etc.
[07:41] <\sh> default is: issue with qsizepolicy (wich is a pyqt issue, and resolved in a new version)
[07:41] <\sh> and a segfault
[07:41] <\sh> and this is also know by upstream and fixed in actual release
[07:41] <\sh> what we were shipping is 2-3 minorversions old
[07:43] <\sh> thats the reason why, I would like to see a change of behaviour with bugfixes...
[07:43] <herve> that's also what I expect from bugfixes ;-)
[07:43] <\sh> bugfix-packages after release would be nice for the user
[07:43] <herve> ok, see you later!
[07:44] <\sh> cu herve
[07:44] <AstralJava> See ya.
[08:00] <trulux> herve: ok, many thanks in advance
[08:58] <herve> houba !
[08:59] <herve> ok trulux
[08:59] <herve> I give you the next hour
[09:00] <herve> now I mean, for an hour
[09:00] <trulux> herve: oh, many thanks ;D
[09:02] <lsuactiafner> ok i run a native 64bit system, the current mplayer package for amd64 doesnt run the 32bit w32codecs to play wmv files, so i make a statically linked 32bit binary compiled for athlon-4 that will play the wmv files, called mplayer32
[09:02] <trulux> herve: I'm off for today
[09:02] <lsuactiafner> now i want to make a package for it, to basically cp mplayer32_binary /usr/local/bin
[09:03] <lsuactiafner> so the fakeroot and dbuild commands are basically useless for me.. since i had to crate a chroot with serveral compile flags ect to make the binary
[09:03] <trulux> herve: could you send your comments and whatever you think would be worthy to lorenzo@gnu.org?
[09:04] <lsuactiafner> but i'm new to this so not sure what to do from here?
[09:04] <herve> trulux, sure but about what? what to do!!
[09:05] <herve> lsuactiafner, not sure to understrand, you want to make a debian package from a set of files
[09:05] <herve> that's what we usually call a tarball :-)
[09:05] <lsuactiafner> well a debian package with only one file in it
[09:05] <lsuactiafner> that needs perform the command to the effect of cp mplayer32_binary /usr/local/bin
[09:06] <herve> do it by hand, that's the best solution
[09:06] <herve> especially because a debian package don't have to do anything in /usr/local
[09:07] <lsuactiafner> k will see if i can figure it out
[09:07] <lsuactiafner> tried earlier but looked like the syntax would give me problems
[09:07] <trulux> herve: test it, review the structure, check for anything to complain, do a upload or forward it to pitti or mdz or someone with time to upload
[09:07] <trulux> herve: that's it
[09:07] <trulux> now, see you
[09:08] <trulux> herve: many thanks in advance
[09:08] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[09:08] <trulux> herve: are you dcc capable?
[09:08] <herve> trulux, ha ok, will seek your archive in the wiki
[09:08] <trulux> herve: ok
[09:08] <herve> trulux, never tried from here
[09:09] <herve> lsuactiafner, cd / && tar zcf /tmp/mplayer-static.tgz usr/local/bin/mplayer_static
[09:09] <trulux> herve: common way: untar the archive, apply the debian diff and try to build, there's a very last error regarding the /usr/bin/ld to /usr/bin/ld.real movement I told you
[09:09] <herve> lsuactiafner, you're done :-)
[09:09] <trulux> herve: 'nite :)
[09:09] <trulux> 'nite all
[09:09] <herve> night!
[09:45] <lsuactiafner> herve : yeh am now after writing INFO ect files
[09:45] <lsuactiafner> will send in next 10 minutes
[09:47] <lsuactiafner> ok dcc this or can i upload to a local ftp server?
[09:47] <lsuactiafner> am on a 5k/s dailup so its better to use ftp servers rather than dcc
[09:50] <lsuactiafner> uploading..
[09:51] <lsuactiafner> siretart:  10:27    0.28/  3.42 MB    5.12 kB/s -
[09:52] <lsuactiafner> the server is like 1200m from here on a much faster link.. am stuck on a dailup
[09:53] <siretart> hi
[09:53] <siretart> lsuactiafner: huh?
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> umm
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> i made a package, need some developer to look @ it and adjust the package as need be
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> since i dont know how to make a decent workable package, only the binary
[09:58] <crimsun> please add your repo's url to the MOTUTodo
[09:58] <crimsun> and the appropriate NEW page if it's new
[09:59] <\sh> *grmpf*
[09:59] <\sh> herve: ping
[10:56] <herve> night all