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KingArthur10no, technically, ipw2100/220 does work out of the box.  just didn't with mine12:00
KingArthur10worked on the pre-release of Horay, then broke when I updated to the full release.  Don't know why.  tried reinstalling the full release, still broken12:00
KingArthur10using a PC-card wi-fi card currently.  works, just kinda annoying12:00
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topylihrm12:01
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senator32holycow, i installed linneighborhood and got the exact same error12:01
holycowwhats that again?12:01
senator32libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root.12:02
senator327930: Connection to SENATOR32 failed12:02
senator32SMB connection failed12:02
senator32thats when i attempted to mount12:02
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holycow*hmmm* weird, google that, i've never seen it before12:02
holycowsorry for the lame answer i wish i could be more specific12:03
senator32i tryed12:03
senator32i know12:03
holycownothing?12:03
senator32nope12:03
GoonieKingArthur10~ ipw2200 v. 0.19 is way borky... the new version works like a charm ppl tell me.. just don't know how to uninstall my current verion and compile the new one12:03
holycow*ummm* i'm at a loss, my appologies i would like to help12:03
senator32i have got the 1000,1000 error b4 which says that i need to be root, but not this time12:03
senator32no biggy12:03
KingArthur10I've got the ipw210012:04
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flipyhow can I make the windows partitions to show in Places (gnome)?12:05
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Cinegrrr... can't get .wmv files to play... which package do I need?12:05
Xappeflipy, mount them in /media and do a /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart12:05
flipyok i'll do it :D12:06
Juhazw32codecs12:06
Juhazwdecs12:06
Juhaz-wdecs12:06
Thorrn4topyli, thank you..that helped me out12:06
CineI looked for the w32codecs but its not in the package list12:06
topyliBTW, in the RootSudo wiki page, an important detail is left out. every cracker knows your box has an account named "root"12:06
CineI'll try wdecs12:06
Xappeoh, and you will need to do the dbus-1 restart after every reboot for them to show up correctly12:06
topylibut they don't know it has an account named "topyli"12:06
JuhazCine, heh, wdecs was a typo12:07
Cineoh12:07
Cinewell then I won't find that one either... :)12:07
hybridis azureus in universe12:07
hypnotopyli: so fix it, it's a wiki :)12:07
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topylii think i will :)12:07
Cinethe w32codecs came back as unavailable in apt get, and doesn't show up when I search for it in synaptic12:08
topyliif this makes sense12:08
mburnshypno: go look:)12:08
hypnoheh12:08
DarwinsBUlldogtoplyi, just like every goon knows windows has a user called administrator.12:08
smoucheheh heh, topyli, I've seen people joining irc channels with nicks like "Root_" !12:08
flipyXappe, it is mounted on /media and still the same12:08
topyliyes12:08
JuhazCine, looks like w32codecs is in marillat12:08
mburnsCine: go to www.ubuntuguide.org and read how to add new repositories to apt-get/synaptic12:08
Juhazhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:08
CineI have universe and multiverse added12:08
Xappeflipy, add the "user" option to the fstab line12:08
topylismouche: i've whois'd them and some of them _are_ root :(12:08
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DarwinsBUlldogAnd any good windows admin gets rid of administator and logs in under another name to get admin rights12:09
mburnsCine: go to www.ubuntuguide.org and read how to add new repositories to apt-get/synaptic :)12:09
flipyXappe, dev/hda5       /media/win_c          vfat    rw,user,auto,umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-1,utf8        0       012:09
DarwinsBUlldogCine, what arch are you using ?12:09
smoucheI know, it's people advertising, I just got a new linux install here, and it's so nice of 1) the distro to let me log in as root, and12:09
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smouche2) it's so nice of my irc client to advertise that fact for me by default12:09
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marzecgreetings12:10
Cineum... you mean Hoary?12:10
Xappeflipy, that should do it I think12:10
senator32holycow, i think i figured out my problem...not sure how to fix it though...i did this command "chmod +s `which smbmount` " this is wrong according to the google search i did. it needs to be "chmod +s `which smbmnt` " apparently it makes a big difference12:10
flipyXappe, that's what i've had always, and still not showing12:10
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holycowsenator32, thats basically what the error said too .. i've simply never seen that before :/12:10
DarwinsBUlldogCine, no, are you running the AMD64 version of ubuntu ?12:10
mburnsCine: AMD-64, i386 (amd/intel), PPC (mac)12:10
MrMinitHi guys, some problems here. I think I managed to delete xorg.conf when I tried to install NVidia-drivers. Can't start X now, only got 'no screens found' (or something) error.. hints?12:10
holycowyou haveto basically chmod the right files, which ones, beyond me12:11
marzecjust a small question, has anyone here ever succeded in installing a netgear wg111 wlan usb stick on the latest ubuntu (doh what a sentence:) )12:11
senator32i may uninstall samba and reinstal it12:11
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hamtaroristhi everyone12:11
DarwinsBUlldogcine, only if it is the AMD64 version I seem to recall that the windows codecs are not availible.12:11
ArthurYAY!  I got flash working with sounds!12:11
DarwinsBUlldogUnless you mess around with a 32bit chroot that is12:11
Arthur:-D12:11
Arthurthankee :-)12:11
Xappeflipy: well, my ext3 partitions show up just fine after I restart dbus12:11
Cinehow do I go about checking that Dawrin?12:11
holycowArthur, what was the fix again, you had to change a .mozilla setting right?12:12
flipyXappe, gonna check12:12
flipyXappe, anyway12:12
hamtaroristcan anyone tell me what the kernel version and how to look it up is of  Ubuntu 5.04 (the latest one)?12:12
Arthurhad to install flash-nonfree12:12
DarwinsBUlldogCine, in a terminal window type in uname -a and post what it says12:12
thechitowncubsuname -r12:12
thechitowncubsi think12:12
flipyanybody knows why in a vfat partition are keeping permissions from windows xp?12:12
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CineLinux Lukie 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux12:12
thechitowncubshamtarorist: uname -r12:12
hamtaroristthanks thechitowncubs12:12
thechitowncubsnp12:12
DarwinsBUlldogCine, ok, you are using an i386 version, so you should be able to install the windows codecs.12:13
flipyXappe, it worked... that means i'll have to restart dbus always?12:13
topylismouche: yeah, come on and get root if you can, i have linux, i'm uncrackable! what bullshit12:13
Xappeflipy, yes12:13
Xappeflipy, i've not come up with any other solution12:13
holycowman i love linux12:13
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DarwinsBUlldogCine, I suspect you have not got  apt looking in the right place.12:13
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hybridanyone have azureus running with ppc12:13
holycowi have yet to download and install a single goddamned driver12:13
flipyXappe, did u take a look at any conf file for dbus?12:13
holycoweverything just works12:13
CineI have universe and multiverse added... is there another?12:13
holycowhillarious12:13
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Xappeflipy: hopefully they'll fix it with the next versions of dbus/HAL12:13
DarwinsBUlldogCine, not sure.12:13
cuscoIm having some troubles with my ipod...12:14
cuscosuddenly it wont mount read-write anymore, only read-only. I had left the original HFS+ filesystem on it, and im learning that there is no fsck.hfsplus for Linux that would clear the INCONSISTENT-bit of my HFS+ filesystem.12:14
flipyXappe, maybe it's already fixed, but still not in repository12:14
topyliholycow: just the normal state of affairs. you've been to hell, now you're in the normal state12:14
smoucheCine, yes -- those repos are for unsupported, but not (as far as I know) proprietary files12:14
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Xappeflipy: no, i'm not that advanced, and I could not find anything useful on the forums :)12:14
Super_Cat_Froghi - im having problems with hotplug. once it gets to hotplug it just stops booting. im pretty sure it locks everything up (you cant press any keys and make them appear on the screen). any idea's anybody?12:14
smoucheCine, you need to check www.ubuntuguide for instructions; it's an excellent guide to this stuff12:14
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DarwinsBUlldogSmouche, thank you. I was about to point him there but forgot the url!12:15
topylii think it's down :(12:15
flipyif I mount a windows partition, it's keeping windows permissions, why this?12:15
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smouchenp, DarwinsBUlldog -- I think someone already die actually -- oops:  www.ubuntuguide.org12:15
Xappeflipy: how do you mean?12:16
smoucheI keep sending people to ".com" by mistake12:16
holycowflipy, thats how networking works12:16
topyliit's up! :)12:16
smouchejesus, my typing! "already somebody die actually"  hah hah -- "did"12:16
flipyholycow, it's not networking12:16
matt1987what is x1112:16
holycowflipy, the 'server' on which the share resides decides what the permissions are12:17
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topyliholycow: "partition"12:17
holycow'its how networking works'12:17
DarwinsBUlldogFlipy, is this accessing a fat partition via samba or mounting it directly ?12:17
smoucheflipy, wouldn't you be really pissed if it didn't keep those permissions??12:17
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smouchethat's what permissions are for...12:17
matt1987whats x1112:17
topyliheh12:17
flipyXappe, well, I've did what you told me (I was able to access the partitions the ohter way), and if I browse thru it I can see that in some directories I can't write12:17
topylimoi matti. X!! is the windowing system you're probably looking at12:17
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flipyi'm mounting it12:18
Super_Cat_Frogmatt1987 - the X server (currently Xorg, used to be XFree86)12:18
nickrudmatt1987, it's the software that drives your display. www.x.org for more info12:18
flipyand no, i don't want to keep permissions12:18
matt1987ok12:18
flipywhy the heck do i need windows permissions under linux?12:18
matt1987well i install loads of programs fome the synaptic thingy and i can see them in my menu help12:18
holycow*sigh*12:18
thr1cebecause you have windows partitions12:18
Xappeflipy: maybe you hould try umask=000 and chown the mountpoint to your user?12:18
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flipyXappe, i've did the chown12:18
transgressanyone know why my bootup would hang at COnfiguring network interfaces?  if i control-c it, everything works fine, but it's an annoyance to have to do that12:18
flipy(i'll check again)12:18
holycowflipy, your name is oddly appropriate in light of your questions12:19
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holycow:)12:19
flipyand i put a umask=0 (not 000)12:19
thr1ceadd umask=ooo to /etc/fstab12:19
thr1ce000 *12:19
flipyholycow, why?12:19
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zero[] can i get true transparancy in gnome 2.1?12:19
matt1987why wont none of the prgrams i have downloaded in synaptic pasckage thingy appear in my menu12:19
topylimatt1987: do you have a "debian" entry in the main menu?12:20
matt1987huh?12:20
Cineah HA!  found it... :)12:20
holycowflipy, when you finally *get* why we are right you will look back and laaaaauuuugggghhh12:20
holycow:)12:20
topylimatt1987: in the "applications" menu. is there a "debian" submenu?12:20
matt1987no12:20
matt1987howto?12:20
nickrudmatt, insttall menu  and menu-xdg, and there will be a new debian entry in your menus12:20
transgresshey does anyone have any suggestions about why my processor is clocking in at 797 mghz according to /proc/cpuinfo?  it's an amd64 3000+12:20
DarwinsBUlldogTransgress, is it looking for network resources that are not availible ?12:20
holycowas a side note, this is also humorous --> http://www.jellyslab.com/~bteo/hacker.htm12:21
topylimatt1987: install the "menu" package. then, open a terminal and do "sudo update-menus"12:21
flipyholycow, first, sorry for not being so smart, i'm not native english so weird gramatic errors/fun things are hard for me to catch12:21
holycowtransgress, severe underclocking?12:21
holycow-_-12:21
transgressDarwinsBUlldog: iuno... the default is eth0 which is available... now it could be looking for wifi too i guess12:21
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flipyholycow, and second, are you talking about flip thing?12:21
holycowflipy, please don't appologize, i'm just kidden12:21
transgressholycow: well it's a 1.8 ghz... i'm kind of just getting .8... so yeah sever underclocking12:21
flipyholycow, don't worry12:21
holycow:) k.12:22
RainFXtransgress: It's probably the AMD cool'n'quiet thingy...12:22
flipyXappe, btw, you were right, i didn't chown the directories12:22
holycowflipy, look, basically the server on which the file sits decides what permissions the files have right?12:22
holycowif your sitting at that machine and make all the files read only for everyone, than everyone will have read only right12:22
transgressRainFX: huh?12:22
Xappetranquillizers, holycow, tranquillizers...12:23
holycowwhether they are sitting on the network or at the machine12:23
flipyholycow, machine, it's my laptop12:23
flipysharing windows and linux12:23
flipyto keep school things working12:23
topyliholycow: this is not networking dude12:23
matt1987it didnt work12:23
matt1987dont worrie just appeared12:23
topylimatt1987: open a terminal, and do "sudo update-menus"12:23
Xappeholycow: he's dualbooting ;)12:23
holycowflipy, sure, then on your windows machine you need to set the appropriate permissions for the directories you want to share12:23
holycowtopyli, am i actually helping too much?12:24
holycow>_>12:24
topylimatt1987: congratulations, you have the messy debian menu there :)12:24
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flipyholycow, let's get this straight, I'm mounting the partitons, so I don't understand why linux is taking a look at windows permissions12:24
holycowXappe, hes using a network share to access the files on the same machine?12:24
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flipythat sounds odd for me12:24
holycowyou have got to be kidding me?12:24
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topyliholycow: you're off topic there. he's not networking, he's mounting partitions :)12:24
Cinerats... wmv still won't play12:25
holycowflipy, rofl, never mind Xappe is right i need more meds12:25
Xappeholycow: no? he's mounting a fat32 partition12:25
flipyxDDDD12:25
Ironfrostcine - did you install win32 codecs and VLC?12:25
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transgressis there a way to make my chip the right clock speed?12:25
holycowrofl topyli i though he was mounting network shares :)12:25
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holycowhaha sorry flipy !!!!!!12:25
Ironfrostalso, is there DRM on the file?12:25
topyliheh12:25
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Cineinstalled the codecs... not VLC12:25
flipyXappe, the thing is that two users are sharing the comp, so if I chown just to my user, would the other user be able to browse rwx there?12:25
topyliholycow: you need a beer or something =)12:25
holycowtopyli, totally :)12:26
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Cinewhats the name of the package?12:26
flipyholycow, bud?12:26
Xappeflipy: give permissions to both users12:26
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holycowlol12:26
flipyXappe, run twice chown?12:26
holycowflipy, so you cant seen certain windows directories after you mount your xp partition? odd12:26
flipyXappe, or chown user1,user2:user1,user2?12:26
holycowdo you any directories encrypted maybe?12:26
flipyholycow, i can see them, but i can't write to there12:26
daveIs there a way to browse for printers on the network to add a new network printer. I know I could when I was using Debian but Ubuntu seems just a little different12:26
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holycowflipy, thats correct12:26
ThomasWinwoodHey, hope you can help a Ubuntu newb. I'm trying to configure network support with my wireless card but am getting no DHCPOFFERs back.12:26
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holycowlinux doesn't have write support for ntfs12:27
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cikilinholycow:i mount an ide and after restart i have to mount again12:27
maddlerholycow... ?!12:27
holycowyou can only read ntfs partition ... it is ntfs correct?12:27
DarwinsBUlldogFlipy, if it is an NTFS partition you won't be able to write to it.12:27
senator32how do you "Please remove the setuid root bit from smbmount tool."12:27
flipyDarwinsBUlldog, FAT3212:27
maddlerholycow... 2.6 has rw support for ntfs12:27
maddlerafaik12:27
holycowflipy, weird :/12:27
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holycowmaddler, no it doesn't actually :/12:27
Cinecrap... a lot of VLC packages... which one do I need?12:27
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DarwinsBUlldogflipy, and you are sure you are mounting it read-write ?12:27
maddlermumble...12:27
trekemaddler:  be careful, last I checked there we serious limitations to the rw support12:27
flipyok12:27
nakataheh, 'need' + 'vlc' = false12:28
flipyhere's my fstab line12:28
DarwinsBUlldogflipy, what does you fstab entry say ?12:28
Cinelol12:28
senator32how do you "remove the setuid root bit from smbmount tool."12:28
holycowoh right fstab, right set permission, go dudes :)12:28
maddlertreke... never used it actually... but afaik rw support should be ok in latest kernel versions...12:28
Xappenow, this is entertainment ;)12:28
dell500what are backports repositories?12:28
Cinesuggestions then nakata?  I'm trying to get WMV files to play12:28
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DarwinsBUlldogmaddler, as I understand it writing to an NTFS partition in Linux can seriously screw the partition.12:29
senator32any ideas...12:29
RubinDarwinsBUlldog: iv gotten away with it12:29
transgressalso, does anyone know why my icons would be sort of scrambled on my toolbars after a reboot?12:29
transgressthey never did this when i had the toolbars stretched, but when i told them not to expand, rebooted, they were all fucked up12:29
maddlerDarwinsBUlldog... as I said I've never tried it myself... (happily I don't use any microcrap product)... lemme check something12:30
holycowXappe, if this is what you do for fun, you need help bro :)12:30
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DarwinsBUlldogRubin, I think it depends what you do. But when I was looking at doing it a few weeks ago I came across some horror stories.12:30
Xappeholycow: well, why are YOU sitting here?12:30
topylidell500: there are not many for hoary anyway. it's partly more recent than sid12:30
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flipyhere's the fstab line12:30
holycowXappe, i have a cat5 in my cell12:30
flipy/dev/hda5       /media/win_c          vfat    rw,user,auto,umask=000,iocharset=iso8859-1,utf8        0       012:30
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holycow>_>12:30
dell500ok, but what are they :)12:30
dell500like the def behind it12:31
topylidell500: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/12:31
Xappeholycow: ahah, that explains a lot12:31
holycow-_-12:31
dell500i'm gonna be making the jump from winblows to linux as we speak, i'm so excited, and esp with a new distro :)12:31
topylidell500: i don't recommend them. they make upgrading more difficult12:31
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CineWMV files still aren't playing... installed w32codecs, but still no go... any other suggestions?12:32
Rubindell500: souns like fun :)12:32
nickrudCine, what player?12:32
topylithose were the days12:32
Cinetotem seems to be the only one that doesn't just flat out crash12:32
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nickrudCine, and which totem, the gstreamer one or the xine one?12:32
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XappeCine: apt-get install totem-xine, then unpack the essential codecs from the mplayer site into your /home/user/.gnome2/totem-addons12:33
topyliCine: install totem-xine instead of totem12:33
maddlerDarwinsBUlldog... I remember I had an article about ntfs... but can't find it... so... you could actually be right... :)12:33
flipyDarwinsBUlldog,12:33
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Cinetopyli: gstreamer12:33
DarwinsBUlldogflipy, I can see nothing wrong with that fstab entry.12:33
flipyDarwinsBUlldog, /dev/hda5       /media/win_c          vfat    rw,user,auto,umask=000,iocharset=iso8859-1,utf8        0       012:33
topyliCine: gstreamer is cool, but totem-xine still works better in real life12:34
threadso my networking was fine earlier today... but all of a sudden, I can't get a dhcp ip from my wireless OR ethernet12:34
Cineok, I'll give that a shot12:34
threadanybody have any suggestions for me?12:34
flipyDarwinsBUlldog, Xappe : can i apply chown for two users?12:34
dell500just wondering, but is it possible for ubuntu to do 3daccel with ATI cards??12:34
dell500or is that still a long shot?12:34
Rubinthread: ifdown eth0;ifup eth012:34
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holycowdell500, yes12:35
thr1ceati cards work fine12:35
topylidell500: i have a radeon 9xxx on my work box, and it works12:35
Cinespeaking of crashing... I Have an mPlayer instance that crashed... how do I make the window go away?12:35
Xappeflipy: maybe you could try a chgrp to a group that conatins both users?12:35
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flipyXappe, i'll see12:35
nickrudCine, I use killall mplayer :)12:35
topyliworks :)12:35
threadRubin: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 .... ... a few times... then it tries a previously leased ip, pings gateway, fails. I'm totally stumped at this point.12:35
Cineokie12:35
Zugottopyli: which radeon 9xxx?   i sold my 9800xt cuz it just sucked too bad in linux12:35
HrdwrBoBtopyli: 9xxx covers about five (I think maybe more) ATI chipsets :)12:35
Rubinthread: is it plugged in? :)12:36
Zugot9000, 9200, 9500, 980012:36
Zugotoh and 970012:36
Cinehmm... no processes killed12:36
Cineand still can't play the damn WMV file... sheesh12:36
nickrudCine, then killall -9 mplayer12:36
topyliZugot: i think its a 9200. like i said, it's the work box so i don't worry too much about the 3d performance12:36
Zugotcine killall -9 mplayer12:36
threadRubin: Yes12:36
Zugot9200... that should work12:36
topyliit works12:36
HrdwrBoBeffectively if you want to play games in linux, you need an nvidia card12:36
threadRubin: it's definitely plugged in... I got the lights and everything12:37
Cineno proccesses killed...12:37
Rubinthread: your not using any kind of firewall are you? (playing with iptables or such?)12:37
threadRubin: nope12:37
Cineoh, 9200?12:37
topyliHrdwrBoB: for about 6 years, i've been buying only matrox cards. the work box was given to me so...12:37
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Cinehmm... still no workie12:38
nickrudCine, last gasp for me is closing the terminal I called it from12:38
Rubinthread: is your network card driver a module? you could try rmmoding it and modprobing it (remove/add)12:38
CineI did it thru the gui12:38
Cineguess I'll just have to restart12:38
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threadRubin: I've tried rebooting12:38
threadRubin: I'm about to try a live cd12:38
topyliCine: you'll have to reboot after installing the ati drivers12:38
Rubinthread: hmm. are you sure the dhcp server is working?12:38
Cineoh, ok12:38
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DarwinsBUlldogthread, sure it is not a problem with the dhcp server ?12:38
Cinewell away I go then12:38
topylithey do it the windows way :)12:39
Rubinthread: you might check the ethernet ports for bent pins12:39
threadyea, dhcp server definitely should be up & running... but that's why I'm going to try a boot cd12:39
ThomasWinwoodthread's problem sounds remarkably like mine. eth0 seems to be okay but DHCP fails to work. I'm not sure what to check.12:39
threadThomasWinwood: sucks, huh :/12:39
ThomasWinwoodYeah.12:39
Rubinsometimes you have to have an ISP assigned hostname for DHCP, or have the HWA registered with the server12:40
Rubindepends on your setup12:40
ThomasWinwood"No IPv6 routers present" crops up a lot.12:40
topylithread: ThomasWinwood do "lspci" and see what it says about the card12:40
Rubinis the DHCP server a router? or your ISP?12:40
ThomasWinwoodRouter.12:40
Rubinipv6?12:40
threadipv4.. it's my dorm network12:40
Rubinthread: wonder if you were disabled or something12:41
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topyliyeah, if the lines are open at all12:41
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threaddisabled?12:41
threadlike admins disabled me?12:41
topyliif the socket is not connected12:41
ThomasWinwoodtopyli: Ethernet controller appears at 0000:00:0b.0 - Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)12:41
thread... I would still get a dhcp ip, but would only be able to get to special MSU pages12:42
topyliThomasWinwood: that's pretty standard12:42
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topyliThomasWinwood: in fact, i have the same card :)12:42
ThomasWinwoodYay. Any clues for configuring my system?12:42
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flipyXappe, DarwinsBUlldog: still having the same issue... i've tryed to change the group but when i romount it, gets the root:root permissions12:43
ThomasWinwoodWindows basically did all this for me, so I'm slightly clueless.12:43
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Rubinthread: hmm. you could run tcpdump in another window to see what your sending/recieving12:43
topyliThomasWinwood: what does your /etc/network/interfaces say about eth0?12:43
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Januxhi, where do you see how much memory your system has in Ubuntu?12:44
ThomasWinwoodmap eth012:44
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ThomasWinwoodiface eth0 inet dhcp12:44
topylithat's all?12:44
topyliah12:44
ThomasWinwoodauto eth012:44
Cinewell this is a fun game... now they are supposedly encrypted and can't be opened... the WMV files that is12:44
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TetrisMastercan anyone tell me how to add my second HDD to the GNOME desktop like in KDE12:44
threadRubin: I tried ethereal earlier... saw a whole slew of arp queries and stuff that were coming from the network ... I know I'm connected12:44
topyliThomasWinwood: i don't know what "map eth0" means. otherwise it seems ok12:44
Rubinthread: do you see any dhcp replies when you ifup eth0?12:45
TetrisMasteri added my second HDD to the fstab but i have to go routing threw /mnt/ to get my files from it12:45
threadRubin: none. zero.12:45
ThomasWinwoodI notice when I do dhclient it DHCPDISCOVERs to 255.255.255.255.12:45
TetrisMasteri would like to be able to add the device as a file on the desktop12:45
topyliThomasWinwood: that's bad12:46
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Rubinthread: sure sounds like the dhcp server is not responding to you. maybe its out of leases12:46
Januxhi, anyone knows how to check how much physical memory you have in your system in Linux? like what command?12:46
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RubinJanux: free -m12:46
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threadRubin: dosen't make sense... if that was the case, it would only be temporary12:46
threadRubin: this hasn't been working for a few hrs now...12:46
nickrudTetrisMaster, open /mnt with nautilus, and middle button drag the folder you want to the desktop, and choose link12:46
Rubinthread: other people are working?12:46
topyliThomasWinwood: if you do "ifconfig", do you have an "inet address" for eth0 there?12:46
Rubinthread: run iptables -L12:46
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threadRubin: erm.. dont' know for sure12:46
Rubinmake sure everything is 'allow'12:46
mattgirvHey12:46
ThomasWinwoodI have an inet6 address.12:47
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JanuxRubin, thank you12:47
topyliThomasWinwood: no plain inet?12:47
ThomasWinwoodNo.12:47
topylithat's bad as well12:47
mattgirvI have a Sony Clie (PalmOS Device) and I cannot, for the life of me, get gnome-pilot to see it at all.12:47
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JanuxRubin, o...how do you know this? like did you search on Google? read books? or you go through your entire linux and try commands?12:48
topyliThomasWinwood: dhcp is not working, but you know that already. i think the problem is not in your box12:48
ThomasWinwoodtopyli: If we go to PM you can help me more easily there.12:48
sagarahi all, in cshell how do i add a value to my $PATH enviromental variable?12:48
RubinJanux: i prolly found it by someone talking about it on irc 6 years ago :)12:48
topyliThomasWinwood: not really, i'm out of ideas12:48
ThomasWinwoodAh.12:48
RubinJanux: but, ls /usr/bin and type "man xxx" on everything you see there12:48
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topyliThomasWinwood: all i could guess is your box is not the problem12:48
threadRubin: I'm in knoppix... I do pump, and I get eth0: transmit timed out, resetting. Operation failed.12:48
RubinJanux: and there are books12:48
threadRubin: iptables -L, all 3 chains are policy ACCEPT12:49
Rubinthread: wonder if a transmit pair in your ethernet cord got damaged12:49
Cinestuff like this makes me miss windows just a bit... :(  any other suggestions on the WMV file front?12:49
JanuxRubin, ic...o..what's the difference between /bin and /usr/bin ?12:49
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topyliThomasWinwood: do you have any live CD linuxes like knoppix there?12:49
ThomasWinwoodNot onhand.12:49
topyliwould be a good test12:49
RubinJanux: /bin is stuff the system needs to boot and mount drives.. /usr/bin is everything else12:49
BenoniThe 5.04 release notes mention installing from USB devices.  However, all the installers I see are CD-sized ".iso" images.  What am I missing?12:49
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ThomasWinwoodI remember there was a hassle to get DHCP working on Knoppix.12:50
holycowThomasWinwood, whats the issue again? your post is out of my buffer range12:50
CarlKBenoni - a CD sized thumb drive ;)12:50
holycowrofl, yet another scanner, plug it in and it works12:50
holycowkiller12:50
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ThomasWinwoodholycow: No DHCP.12:50
RubinJanux: some people put /usr/bin on another computer, or different hard drive, so they need 'the basics' to boot up and mount it12:50
BenoniCarlK: Ah.  Drat.12:50
CarlKBenoni - I don;t know really - don't mind me12:50
JanuxRubin, ic....sounds fun....12:50
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BenoniCarlK: Oh, in that case ... thppt!  :-P12:50
XappeCine, did you try my method? worked for me...12:51
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CarlKBenoni, yeah yeah... but I can tell you what worked for me..12:51
Cinewhat was that Xappe?12:51
RubinJanux: also see 'man -k keyword' tho its not very good12:51
CineI must have missed it12:51
CarlKBenoni - https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LocalNetInstall12:51
holycowThomasWinwood, where do you recieve your dhcp offer from? router?12:51
ThomasWinwoodYep.12:51
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ThomasWinwood192.168.1.112:51
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JanuxRubin, okay....I am checking out the Ubuntu web site now for setting up my windows shared printer.12:52
XappeCine: totem-xine and the essential codecs from the mplayer site unpacked in /home/user/.gnome2/totem-addons12:52
smoucheRubin, could one also use a usb stick instead of GRUB, for multiboots?12:52
BenoniThanks for the pointer, CarlK.  I hereby un-thppt you.  :-D12:52
RubinJanux: good luck with that. printers are not easy in linux yet :(12:52
holycowcan you manually set your ip to 192.168.1.2 and try pinging your router? or getting in to its web config?12:52
CarlKBenoni - na, i deserved it ;)12:52
Cineok, I'll give that a shot12:52
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ThomasWinwoodI doubt it.12:52
holycowsystem > admin > networking12:52
holycowtry it12:52
abstractismhey all12:52
mattgirvI have a Sony Clie (PalmOS Device) and I cannot, for the life of me, get gnome-pilot to see it at all.12:52
ThomasWinwoodAlready did. That dialog helps little.12:52
threadRubin: I searched 'DHCP' in the tcpdump when I did a pump, and all I see is lines with 'request' ...12:53
abstractismI got some dirt on my problem12:53
ThomasWinwoodIt's all function and no help.12:53
JanuxRubin, ya...thanks though12:53
holycowactually it helps a lot, eh no, wrong12:53
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abstractismwith hardware accelerated graphics12:53
dell500just wondering, but is it possible for ubuntu to do 3daccel with ATI cards??12:53
ThomasWinwoodWhat's a "location"?12:53
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topyliCine: you can apt-get the codecs in a nice package from the marillat repository12:53
abstractism(II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module Version Information: (II) fglrx(0):     Name: fglrx (II) fglrx(0):     Version: 8.8.25 (II) fglrx(0):     Date: Jan 14 2005 (II) fglrx(0):     Desc: ATI FireGL DRM kernel module (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver. (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work12:53
Rubinthread: so either the DHCP server is seeing your discover queries, and ignoring you, or its not seeing them at all12:53
holycowthe help is knowledge, one cannot proffer knowledge through popus and wizards despite ms's best efforts to the contrary :)12:53
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holycowThomasWinwood, what that means is your network card is hosed, get another one, or replace router12:53
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mvelasco2where can I get free nxserver from?12:54
holycowThomasWinwood, you wont  be able to tell otherwise which is bad, but one of them is12:54
threadRubin: hmm... well I guess I'll just cry about it then :/12:54
abstractismhow can I get the right version for my kernel?12:54
Rubinthread: give your knoppix a try, maybe call the net folks12:54
holycowabstractism, uname -a12:54
threadRubin: that was knoppix I was just on12:55
dell500abstractism: what vid card??12:55
Rubinhrm12:55
abstractism2.6.10-5-38612:55
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Rubintry another cable?12:55
Rubintry another network jack12:55
Rubinetc12:55
thechitowncubsHey everyone, for some reason... in the theme preferences, it doesn't show me a preview any more?12:55
abstractismand I have an ATI radeon 9800 Pro12:55
holycowactually that too, what rueben said12:55
threadRubin: weird part is the same thing happens with the wireless where it used to get an ip.12:55
dell500sweeet12:55
Cinetopyli, the w32codecs?  I did that already, no go...12:55
thechitowncubsIs there something that I need to rebuild, or something like that12:55
dell500you gettin close to figuring it out?? :)12:55
mole_quick question: how can I fix the bad signature problem with the update archives12:55
threadRubin: honestly, though, the wireless has been flakey.. sometimes getting an ip and sometimes failing to dhcp one up...12:55
mole_Can't find an answer on the FA12:56
CineThis file is encrypted and cannot be played back.    damnit, thats annoying...12:56
dell500i tried for almost 3 weeks to get 3d accel to work with my 9600xt12:56
Rubinthread: i wouldnt be surprised if your uni's dhcp server is down or something12:56
mole_FA = FAQ12:56
mole_or wiki12:56
Rubinthread: i have a lot of trouble with wireless as well12:56
threadRubin: any wireless tips? :)12:56
oscarhhi, anyone who can help me figure out what i have missed when adding my own keymap to x?12:56
closureabstractism, there's a bit of problems with the ATI cards12:56
oscarhxkb even12:56
travisnuxHi everyone12:56
travisnuxI'm french12:56
closuremy TV out doesn't work for crap12:56
dell500closure: like them sucking :)12:56
travisnuxI've just install ubuntu12:56
Rubinthread: write a letter to the manuf demanding they open the specs so people can write proper drivers12:56
travisnuxand i've a problem12:56
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travisnuxI don't know the root password12:57
dell500lol12:57
dell500that sucks travis12:57
Rubintransgress: sudo -s12:57
oscarhtravisnux, there is none12:57
Rubinthen type your USER password12:57
topyliCine: rhm12:57
oscarhor, there is...12:57
closuredell500, you seem to be quite angry were you touched by an ati card as a young boy?12:57
dell500lol12:57
oscarhtransgress, but you shouldn't use it12:57
oscarhsudo is the way12:57
travisnuxin the installation he hasn't asked to define a password12:57
Cinerhm?12:57
dell500no, i just didn't like trying to get 3d accel to work, it was the bain of my existence when i was working on fedora12:57
dell500it sucked12:57
Rubintransgress: ubuntu doesnt use root that way.12:58
topyliit used to be a topic here: no ati vs nvidia flames here12:58
thechitowncubsAny ideas?12:58
oscarhtravisnux, its some md5 hash now i believe12:58
closuredell500, i was abused by a CDR drive for years12:58
cuscohow is it that I change the local char encoding please?12:58
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dell500closure: oh, i hear ya, as was i.... as was i12:58
holycowclosure, rofl12:58
cuscothe default is utf-8 I would like to have iso8859-1512:58
oscarhtravisnux, if you really want to become root for a while sudo -s12:58
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closuredell500, not to mention 14.4k dial up i mean there is only so much a boy can go through before he just lashes out you know?12:59
travisnuxhe ask a password12:59
dell500nice chattin, i'll be up on ubuntu soon :)12:59
closuredell500, are you a developer for ubuntu? you mentioned working on fedora12:59
dell500closure, oh of course12:59
oscarhtravisnux, type your user passwerd12:59
GoonieFlash stopped working when I upgraded to Hoary.. anyone had this problem?12:59
dell500nope, just meddled with fedora a bit (2 that is)12:59
closuredell500, ahh12:59
holycowGoonie, appearently installing the non free version worked for one person12:59
dell500didn't really like it, not much support and the forum/community was very lacking in helping newbs, ubuntu seems more newbie friendly than most01:00
closuredell500, perhaps you can answer my question wtf is the latest gaim not in the ubuntu repositories and there is no deb pkg for it01:00
Goonieholycow~ thx.. gonna give that a try01:00
holycowGoonie, alternatively google that on the ubuntu website, there is another fix wher eyou haveto change a variable in a text file01:00
travisnuxyes it's good01:00
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dell500closure: that sounds like a google query :)01:00
travisnuxbut why we cann't log in root ?01:00
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Rubintravisnux: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:00
cuscosudo su01:00
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oscarhtravisnux, why would you want to?01:00
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dell500closure, i've yet to use ubuntu, i'm dling as we speak on my speedy cable line that i love oh so much :)01:00
closuredell500, that's what i'm liking about it this is my first desktop based linux box so i'm digging the support with ubuntu(though technically i run kubuntu)01:01
eb0xWhat can I use to play .RM files?01:01
Cinegrrr.... where is the "make it work just like windows button cuz I'm too dumb to get all this stuff working on my own"?01:01
eb0xI tried installing RealPlayer 3 times, but it didn't work01:01
dell500what's kubuntu??01:01
thechitowncubsKDE ubuntu01:01
mattgirvI have a Sony Clie (PalmOS Device) and I cannot, for the life of me, get gnome-pilot to see it at all.01:01
dell500oooo01:01
dell500neato01:01
oscarhRubin, how does you guys come up with those links that fast?01:01
Goonieholycow~ nope... that didn't work01:01
closuredell500, lucky you remember that cdr i mentioned? well the pos broke a while back and i had to wait about 2 months for the cds to get here01:01
thechitowncubsnot the best of kde distros (YET)01:01
travisnuxI want to know the root password01:01
oscarhRubin, huge clippboard?01:01
travisnuxlol01:01
dell500that sucks01:01
Rubinoscarh: i read it yesterday and remembered where it was01:01
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oscarhtravisnux, you have to set it if you really want to log in as root01:02
DarwinsBUlldogUbuntu is the first gnome distro that I have liked. I tried FC3 and hated gnome on that.01:02
dell500what comes with ubuntu?? like does it run gnome or can you switch to kde, or is that an addon ??01:02
abbot45Are they having issues with Icon Sets in Hoary?  None of them work.01:02
oscarhtravisnux, but you are supposed to use sudo01:02
abstractismok, trying something new01:02
abstractismbbiab01:02
thechitowncubsdell: you can easily switch by installing kubuntu-desktop01:02
oscarhtravisnux, read the articla Rubin posted a link to01:02
dell500neato!01:02
closuredell500, ubuntu comes with gnome. you can switch to kde if you like though01:02
thechitowncubsthat will install KDE (kubuntu) and gnome (ubuntu)01:02
DarwinsBUlldogdell, it intalls gnome but you can install kde afterwards01:02
dell500i can't wait to get my hands on this, i'm so excited01:02
thechitowncubsbut if you want to install seperate kde packages, you can do that also01:03
dell500sweet ass :)01:03
Rubinthey did a lot of work making gnome seamless and integrated01:03
eb0xWhat can I use to play .RM files?01:03
dell500k, well i got another 25 minutes left on the live cd01:03
Rubinim not sure the kde stuff is as finished yet01:03
dell500so i'll bbl01:03
thechitowncubseb0x: realplayer01:03
thechitowncubswww.ubuntuguide.org01:03
eb0xRealPlayer won't install01:03
topylieb0x: you can install realpleyre01:03
Super_Cat_Frogeb0x - mplayer01:03
Cinehmm... now I'm thinkin' these files are just corrupt...01:03
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topylieb0x: how are you trying?01:03
eb0xusing the bin file01:03
closuredell500, if you don't wish to have gnome anymore you can delete it by removing gnomelibs2.0 and it will destroy pretty much everything that is gnome oriented.01:03
eb0xAnd it seems to install fine01:03
abbot45eb0x: it should work.  real offers a linux version.01:03
eb0xBut it doesnt open01:04
Xappeno, goddamn, i'm tired. goodnight01:04
topylieb0x: where did you install it? it asks you01:04
closuredell500, though if you will more than likely reinstall that individual package as it's required for many apps01:04
Super_Cat_Frogeb0x - add universe to the repo's and apt-get install w32codecs01:04
eb0xtopyli: /home/eb0x01:04
eb0xAnd i went in there01:04
abbot45Are they having issues with Icon Sets in Hoary?01:04
eb0xand typed ./realplay01:04
eb0xAnd it doesnt do anything01:04
eb0xSuper_Cat_Frog: Ok01:04
dell500i like gnome, i just wanna see what KDE's new stuff is like :)01:05
closuredell500, also if you know you want KDE you can just get kubuntu from www.kubuntu.org01:05
topylieb0x: in that directory, is there in fact a file named realplay?01:05
topyliif you do ls01:05
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eb0xtopyli: Yes01:05
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closuredell500, to each their own gnome ran sluggish as balls to me and i find kde more customizeable(is that a word?)01:06
dell500is it easy to install KDE??01:06
dell500closure, ya, that's what i want :)01:06
eb0xSuper_Cat_Frog: How do I add universe?01:06
eb0xBesides through Synaptic01:06
topylido ls -l realplay01:06
closuredell500, yeah it's real easy to install01:06
topylieb0x: is it executable?01:06
dell500closure: kool, you gonna be around in a bit??01:06
eb0x-rwxr-xr-x  1 501 501 2481 2005-04-26 15:57 realplay01:06
closureyeah sure01:06
dell500closure: i'll bbl, gonna do some chemistry, then come up in a bit and burn the cds and install, hopefully all will go well01:07
closuredell500, shoot me a line when you get ubuntu up and i'll give you a hand getting KDE01:07
Cineok, what about an application for fixing corrupt video files?01:07
dell500sweet, thanks01:07
dell500i'll bbl01:07
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closuredell500, cool ttyl01:07
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threadRubin: should I be using whereami? waproamd? what's the best way to handle my networking in ubuntu? I got netapplet. that sort of works.01:08
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topylieb0x: now i know. it's esd. do "killall esd" and run it again01:08
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NTolerancehas anyone here tried to run the Sega Genesis emulator Gens in Ubunut?01:11
NToleranceUbuntu rather01:11
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dazzed_ /msg nickserv dazzed dbacks01:13
ThomasWinwoodGens worked under WINE when I tried it (when I had Linux working).01:13
Rubinuh-oh01:13
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thechitowncubsHey everyone, for some reason... in the theme preferences, it doesn't show me a preview any more?01:14
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thechitowncubsIs there something that I need to rebuild, or something like that01:14
samuelsup all01:14
darkauditwhat do I need to open .ace archives?01:14
threadRubin: dhcp decided it wanted to work just then01:15
ThomasWinwoodWinACE.01:15
samuelanyone here had some luck getting powernowd to work with intel?01:15
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CarlKsamuel - I hear it works as is, but many people don't understand what it should be doing01:15
CarlKer, maybe not should, but why it does what it does01:16
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PSUstoeklhey guys, I'm new to ubuntu or whatever...need to know what you think...01:17
PSUstoekl(how big is it, what can I use it for, etc.)01:17
thechitowncubsPSU: you can do everything you can in windows01:17
thechitowncubsits all free'01:17
thechitowncubsits all good01:17
thechitowncubstry it!01:17
CarlKit doesn't piss me off like windows does....01:17
PSUstoeklcan it run an irc client of some kind?01:17
spawnlol01:17
NToleranceI'm only getting about 27fps in Gens01:18
yfirPSUstoekl: it's like buying a car and finding out that the hood hasn't been welded shut01:18
samuelCarlK, well, it does work "as is" but it doesnt really throttle down anything much - it does every now and again, but ive tried changing the options but with no luck to reduce power usage01:18
NToleranceI get a full 60+ in ZSNES w/ hq4x enabled01:18
NToleranceso i dunno what the problem is01:18
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Rubinthread: it heard us plotting01:18
CarlKsamuel - i think it only kicks in when you are on battery, and then when CPU is below the threshold01:19
NTolerancemy powernowd works out of the box01:19
NTolerancethrottles realtime01:19
NTolerancemine works on AC power01:19
LevanderAnybody converted dovecot and postfix IMAP to use maildir instead of mbox?01:19
CarlKsamuel - but I didn't care much so I didn't get into it too much.  Other than the basic gripe was "I don't like what it does on my P4"01:19
samuelCarlK, what NTolerance said as far as i can tell01:19
Levanderjust wondering if I need to figure out how to configure only dovecot, or dovecot and postfix01:20
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samuelbut it throttles down to 50% for like 1% of the time, the rest its at 100% cpu freq01:20
Rubini have a dell insperon8200 and the gnome power mon thing says 75% always. i havnt had the time te figure out if its really at 75% or if powernowd is working etc01:20
trekeLevander: pretty simple do do, you need to set the delivery location for postfix01:20
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trekeLevander: otherwise it should just work01:20
Levandertreke: and do nothing with postfix?01:20
trekepostfix is what does the deliver01:21
trekedelivery01:21
Seqwere there any differences between the hoary rc installation cd and the release isntallation cd (other than maybe a few packages i can just upgrade with apt)?01:21
trekeso you have to tell it where to put things01:21
Seqor is it worth it to download the hoary cd for a fresh install01:21
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Levandertreke: so postfix just delivers to dovecot?  postfix doesn't have to know anything about mbox or maildir?01:21
trekepostfix doesnt deliver to dovecot01:21
trekeall dovecot does is hands out access to a maildir01:21
trekepostfix can either deliver to an mbox or maildir or hand off to something like procmail01:22
Levandertreke: so you do have to configure postfix to use maildir also?01:22
trekeI personally hand the mail off to procmail and tell it to put things in my maildir01:22
samuelhow about laptop-net vs laptop-netconf... they do the same thing afaik?01:22
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Levandertreke: why would you use postfix at all? why not just have postfix do it?01:22
trekeLevander: you can check the postfix faq for the syntax01:23
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trekeLevander: because all postfix knows how to do is put a message in a maildir, I want more intelligent filtering01:23
Levandertreke: just pulled up the postfix faq, thanks01:23
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trekesearch for maildir01:23
Levandertreke: like what kind of filtering? briefly, basically01:23
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trekeI filter mailing list messages into their own mailboxes. passing mail through a spam filter01:24
trekethat sort of thing01:24
yfirprocmail is pretty much a must-have01:24
Levandertreke: that does sound like a good idea, i have to put my filters on every mail client I use01:24
Levanderkind of sucks01:24
trekeyeah, I agree01:24
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XandriXmako, u there ???01:25
Levanderprocmail isn't configured by default in hoary is it? or do I have to configure procmail also?01:25
Levanderjust to get procmail used, not necessarily to do the filtering would I expect it to possibly be configured by default in hoary01:25
XandriXmako, are u there ???????01:26
phasegenI'm about to dump ubuntu.  They have to get some clear-defined easy support for us noobs.  If I don't have a place to start, how can I ever get good?  You can't hand me two rocks and a stick, and say build a skyscraper...01:26
trekehonestly I couldnt say. my postfic config is fairly customized01:26
Levanderwell, it's already installed on my system.01:27
Levanderthink I'm going to convert to maildir first01:27
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trekecheck /etc/postfix.conf01:27
Levanderthen maybe procmail after01:27
SeamusLPphasegen:  The wiki is infinitely useful.01:27
DarwinsBUlldogphasegen, I doubt you will find any other distro any easier to use.01:27
trekelook for the mailbox_command line01:27
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SeamusLPphasegen:  By your analogy I'd say they're practically giving you the skyscraper.01:27
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DarwinsBUlldogAll Linux distro's require you to RTFM. At least you get a M to RTF. Windows does not bother these days with stuff like documentation01:28
HrdwrBoBphasegen: what do you want to do?01:28
phasegenSeamusLP:  The wiki has nothing for why I can't access the net or configure a connection without enabling root, then it only works in root01:28
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Levandertreke: yeah, i looked, it's not set to anything, don't think I'm currenty running procmail01:29
SeamusLPphasegen:  Sudo :)01:29
trekeuncomment the line and mail would go to postfix01:29
phasegenIt's humiliating to have to go to my windows machine for help01:29
HrdwrBoBphasegen: can you clarify that exactly01:29
HrdwrBoBphasegen: that's not typical behaviour, btw01:29
phasegensudo won't work, for some reason it won't access my pcmcia card modem01:30
ThomasWinwoodI think phasegen is suffering from the OS equivalent of culture shock.01:30
fightingfortofuany one up for walking me through installing ati drivers and getting tv out to work or possibly point me to a guide with newbies in mind?01:30
Levanderhey, how did this file /etc/readahead show up on my system in the last day or so?01:30
HrdwrBoBphasegen: sudo is not hardware dependant01:30
HrdwrBoBeg: try and run sudo ls01:30
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ThomasWinwoodAnd remember why it's a wiki - YOU TOO can add to it!01:30
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Epixhi. my ubuntu froze! it wont ssh or respond to ping!01:31
Epixrebot?01:31
DarwinsBUlldogI cannot see why something would work with root enabled but not when you sudo01:31
DelphEpix: unless you can get control of it somehow, then it's probably not worth prodding.01:31
gijoshHey.  For the past day or so, Ubuntu has been freezing up on me quite a bit.  The file manager won't start, firefox freeks out when I try to dl something, the image viewing programs won't start, etc.01:31
EpixDelph: its the second time its happened in 48 hrs01:32
g14gijosh: You use the nvidia video card?01:32
ThomasWinwoodP.S. Can anyone help with iwconfig returning "operation not supported" when I input the WEP key?01:32
gijoshg14: yup.01:32
DelphEpix: time to start digging in the logs and find out what's going on, then.01:32
phasegenAll I know is it won't recognize the card modem without enabling the root account and logging in to it.  Sudo won't  work.  And you're not supposed to access the net as root, right?01:32
EpixDelph: ok, can youwalk me through this? reboot first?01:32
g14gijosh: Thats a known issue. If you want to be crazy and update to breezy, I think it will fix some things01:32
gijoshbreezy?01:32
DelphEpix: nope. Not cos i'm being evil, just because I'm going now.01:32
fightingfortofu:(01:32
gijoshg14:  And realy hasn't been buggy for the past couple days.  And I've been using Ubuntu for about a month in a half now01:33
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HrdwrBoBfightingfortofu: BinaryDriverHowTo on the wiki01:33
EpixDelph: wait one sec01:33
DelphEpix: reboot, then have a look at the contents of your log files... see if there's anything there which is sounding like a complaint.01:33
SeamusLPgijosh:  Bad ram could be an explanation.01:33
EpixDelph: whats the log name?01:33
DelphEpix: there's lots of them: have a look at anything in /var/log/01:33
gijoshseamusLP:  Hrm, I hope not.  My computers getting old, that could be it.01:33
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EpixDelph: bye, tnks01:33
gijoshSeamusLP:  Any good programs to test it?01:33
fightingfortofuhrdrbob, thanks!01:33
g14gijosh: Alot of people with nvidia cards noticed stability problems with ubuntu. I read somewhere about this being fixed in breezy01:34
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gobeavsany cluster users here? Is openmosix good, or I have heard about OSCAR....?01:34
SeamusLPgijosh:  Search for memtest86.  You'll have to put it on a floppy or burn it to a CD, then boot into it.01:34
gijoshSeamusLP:  Thanks, man.01:35
Rubini have nvidia, it crashed in x after 30 seconds with the 2.6.11 kern. .10 works ok but there are some video artifacts01:35
trekeor if you're running ubuntu, it should already be in your grub config :p01:35
PHPWannabeSeamusLP: memtest86 is a boot option by default for Hoary01:35
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dazzedgijosh: theres a memtest86 in ur grub u dont need to download it01:35
SeamusLPPHPWannabe:  forgot about that.01:36
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gijoshdazzed:  COolness.  I'l reboot into it01:36
fightingfortofuhrdrbob, what is the binarydriverhowto under on the wiki page?01:36
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HrdwrBoBfightingfortofu: hangon01:37
ThomasWinwoodP.S. Can anyone help with iwconfig returning "operation not supported" when I input the WEP key?01:37
ThomasWinwoodThe same occurs for the ESSID.01:38
g14ThomasWinwood: are you using sudo iwconfig?01:38
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kakaltodoes anyone have any ideas why my sound might not work now, even though it used to?01:38
kakaltothe only thing I remember changing, was installing america's army01:39
kakaltobut sound worked for that01:39
kakaltonot any more01:39
EpixDelph: you still around?01:39
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darko__i just did chown kris <--which is me * -R from / because i haven't used my user account since i started with linux 2 months ago, do you think it will go alright?01:39
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Epixok, i think my computer locks up on cron.daily01:40
Epixafter that it says local exit on status 1501:40
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g14darko: You did chown kris * -R / ?01:41
g14darko: Thats going to mess up ALOT of things01:41
trekehehe that's not a good thing :p01:41
dell500what's the version of ubuntu out??01:41
dell5005.4....01:41
bet0xhi all01:41
bet0xhow i see where is my cdrom01:41
bet0xi lost my cdrom01:41
bet0x:s01:41
lsnetany hints on getting evolution to work on hoary amd64? mine says starting but then disappears01:41
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DarwinsBUlldog5.04, not 5.401:42
Epixanyone???01:42
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Epixsomeone please help me :(?01:43
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darko__g14: well can't i just undo it with chown root * -R?01:44
ThomasWinwoodCan anyone help with iwconfig returning "operation not supported" when I input the WEP key?01:44
darko__or someway else..01:44
spawnhttp://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,120520,00.asp01:45
g14darko: No that will mess up alot of things that should never be owned by root01:45
Januxhi, I have a shared windows printer, I made it to work but then when I print something from OOo, the margins are very weird, I have changed paper to US Letter but that doesn't help, any clue?01:45
g14rpm has an option to restore permissions. Does anyone know if dpkg has a similar option?01:45
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^thehatsrule^remove01:46
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nickrudapt-get install --reinstall01:46
nickrudg14 ^^01:46
g14nickrud: You mean that deb doesn't store file permissions so he has to reinstall everything?01:47
nickrudg14, there may be a way with dpkg, but this works for me :)01:47
g14nickrud: It's pretty easy to fix that with an rpm based distro01:47
g14nickrud: That is way overkill01:47
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transgressanyone have problems getting the following to emerge:01:47
trekethe other problem with chown root -R / is that chown drops the suid flags on things that need to be suid01:47
transgress[ebuild     U ]  dev-libs/cdk-4.9.11.20031210-r1 [4.9.10.20020809] 01:48
transgress[ebuild     U ]  media-libs/libsdl-1.2.8-r1 [1.2.7-r3] 01:48
transgress[ebuild     U ]  sys-apps/kbd-1.12-r4 [1.12-r3] 01:48
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nickrudg14, it retains my config files, so I'm happy01:48
mikecoum01:48
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g14transgress: Maybe you should try #gentoo ?01:48
IronfrostI downloaded a package that's a source tar.gz01:48
mikecohaha01:48
Ironfrostwhat do I do with it?01:48
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nullaresnatalol01:48
mikecowith a tar.gz or gentoo?01:48
closurei have a question if i were to get apps from the breezy repos but not upgrade my base would there be a conflict?01:49
Ironfrostwith a tar.gz01:49
g14Ironfrost: tar -zxvf whateverfilename.tar.gz01:49
IronfrostI'm supposed to compile the thing, but no idea how01:49
darko__Ironfrost: you compile the contents01:49
g14Ironfrost: Then you cd to the directory it makes01:49
darko__read the README and INSTALL01:49
fightingfortofuhrdwrbob, ?01:49
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g14Ironfrost: then do ./configure && make && make install01:49
darko__but it's probably just ./cnofigure01:49
darko__./configure01:49
darko__make01:49
darko__make install01:49
raydoggI have this new motherboard, with the onboard nic enabled, ubuntu doesn't boot up, so i disable it, but how do i get it to work if i can't enable it ???01:50
spawnwhy are the Ubuntu CDs free?01:50
Zindarspawn: why not? are you complaining?01:50
raydoggspawn, donations?01:50
spawnis it because of the gazillionair Mark Shuttleworth?01:50
g14darko: placing && after the commands like I did will do one after the other only if the previous command completed sucessfully01:50
spawnno, lol01:50
spawnjust wondering01:50
Zindarspawm: most likely has something to do with it :)01:50
darko__haha01:50
spawnlol, thought so01:50
darko__not01:50
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raydogghe might be collecting names and and addresses, and then selling them :-)01:51
raydoggj/k01:51
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spawnlol01:51
ZindarI doubt that.. meet him yesterday.. seams like a nice guy :)01:51
raydoggin person ? Was there a convention?01:51
thechitowncubsIn the gimp,i accidently detached the tool options, how can i attach it to the main window again?01:51
spawnhe sounds kick ass01:51
Zindaryeah.. Ubuntu down under01:51
raydoggin au?01:51
spawnhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth01:51
Zindaryes01:51
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IronfrostOK, I need OpenGL - does Ubuntu come with that?01:51
raydoggJust a little out of my way :-)01:51
IronfrostI can't find it on Synaptic01:52
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JanuxIronfrost, get Mesa3D01:52
fightingfortofuwhats the command again to get the kernal version01:53
raydoggi've got the driver for this network card, do I need to patch the ubuntu kernel ?01:53
CarlKuname -a01:53
fightingfortofucarlk, thanks!01:54
CarlKno prob01:54
ThomasWinwoodHow do I set a WEP key? iwconfig says "invalid argument".01:54
g14ThomasWinwood: Well what are you typing?01:55
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ThomasWinwoodiwconfig eth0 key <key>01:55
ThomasWinwoodWith sudo.01:55
fightingfortofuis anyone aware of a better method of getting ati drivers working other than http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22496&page=2&pp=1001:56
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E4Joshhey I have a few questions about ubuntu. Like does it support dvds natively or will i have to search for libdvdcss and does it support printer memory card ports cause I have an HP photosmart 766001:56
raydoggWhy would the kernel panic if i have the onboard nic enabled ?01:56
raydoggDo i have to patch it?01:56
ThomasWinwoodE4Josh: Certainly it mounts DVDs natively. Playing them is another matter.01:57
E4Joshsorry i mean playing them01:57
ThomasWinwood...mounting a DVD sounds vaguely kinky.01:57
E4Joshlol01:57
transgressThomasWinwood: don't... it hurts01:57
g14ThomasWinwood: the key should be 10 digits all numbers01:58
g14The reason I NEVER use WEP: http://whoppix.h07.org/Whoppix-wireless.html01:58
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ThomasWinwoodThanks for the warning. And gl4 - most of it is nonprinting and is 26 bytes long.01:58
holycowcan anyone explain to me how to get the encrypted /home dir like in osx on linux? what applications are involved in setting that up?  is it at the filesystem level?01:58
g14ThomasWinwood: Watch the video in that link I gave you.01:59
] BreliC[has anyone ever gotten this message: "Registry is not present or it is corrupted. Please update it by running gst-register" ?  I get this when running the CD Player, plus my volume no longer exists (can't set it)?01:59
ThomasWinwoodI barely have enough memory in this dinosaur to run IE let alone a movie.01:59
g14ThomasWinwood: It is flash02:00
] BreliC[thing is, there is no gst-register, nor is it in the repositores02:00
ThomasWinwoodExactly.02:00
g14ThomasWinwood: You really should watch it02:00
] BreliC[uh, repositories even02:00
Epixahh!02:00
Epixmy computer keeps freezing!02:00
Epixfuck02:00
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Epixits on downloads02:00
Epixit just stops02:00
Epixno SSH, no ping, NOTHING02:00
holycowE4Josh, ubuntu like debian do not ship proprietary codecs or illegal software, so yes you will haveto find the right repo and download libdvdcss and other things as needed, like win32codecs for sound02:00
Epixdamn!02:00
Epixhelp!02:00
g14] BreliC[: Try gst-register-0.802:00
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kakaltodoes anyone have any ideas why my sound might not work now, even though it used to?02:01
kakaltothe only thing I remember changing, was installing america's army02:01
kakaltobut sound worked for that02:01
kakaltonot any more02:01
davixhow do i share a directory on my ubuntu to linux?02:01
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davixto windows, sorry02:01
] BreliC[g14, in the repositories?02:01
Epix????????02:01
stevenjI want to install bluefish-Hoary shows blushfish 1.0+CVS...........  what does the CVS mean?02:01
g14] BreliC[ type which  gst-register-0.802:01
transgressokay just watched that video... i wanna know why they used eth0 for the name of their wireless card02:01
nickrud] BreliC[, it's in libgstreamer0.8-002:01
kakaltodavix, have you been to www.ubuntuguide.org ?02:01
jfarrellhey all I just finished installing Ubuntu, looks really nice.  Downloaded some source code for an application that i want to compile.  Did my 'su' as I normally do typed in my password and .... was denied02:02
davixyeah, havent look for the answer there tough, tnx.02:02
g14stevenj: cvs is the most bleeding edge from the cvs repository02:02
jfarrelltried ita gain, and was denied02:02
] BreliC[ahh, thanks g14 , nickrud .  i'll try it now02:02
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kakaltocould anyone help?02:02
stevenjg14, thanks02:02
jfarrellthen it dawned on me, I was never asked for a root password during the install02:02
E4Joshok thanks i know i casn find those. however has anyone known if memory card slots on printers work or not in linux?02:02
transgressalso, does anyone know what the music playing was in that02:02
dell500now it is time for the switch-a-roo!!!!02:02
dell500w00t02:02
dell500bbl02:02
g14jfarrel: the root accound in ubuntu is disabled for security reasons02:02
jzavaluse the command sudo02:02
jfarrellg14, any way to enable it02:02
jzavaland enter your user password02:02
g14jfarrel: You can use sudo to do anything if you are the admin user02:03
jfarrelljzaval, for what I have to do, that is not practical02:03
g14jfarrell: sudo passwd02:03
jzavalwhat are you doing?02:03
g14jfarrell: set a root password and then login as root like normal02:03
g14jfarrell: but using sudo is better, you should try it02:03
jfarrellg14, good idea02:03
holycowE4Josh, you mean like on those retardo hp photocrap printers?02:03
Epixahh, nobody can help!02:03
XandriXdamnit02:03
E4Joshunfortuantly yes i mean those02:04
E4Joshlol02:04
travisnuxHow to put what is to the right ?? http://hungsquirrel.org/images/ubuntu.png02:04
holycowE4Josh, probably not, no manufacturer goes out of their way to write software for linux beyond say providing barely specs for their hardware02:04
holycowi've never heard of one of those working ever02:04
jfarrelli use sudo on occassion for quick things, but I am not sure how i feel about using it for all of my admin tasks02:04
g14travisnux: That is gdesklets on the right side. Try googling for gdesklets02:05
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jfarrellor when I feel like being on a power trip :-D02:05
knucksirc://irc.orbitalgrooves.com02:05
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g14jfarrell: You can do like I do with sudo...02:05
dazzedim bored02:05
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stevenjtravisnux, what theme is that02:05
nickrudjfarrell, sudo -i|-s gets you a shell if you really want one02:05
] BreliC[g14, well, it worked in restoring the audio capabilities, but now i can no longer add the volume icon to the taskbar..02:05
jfarrelli got root access its fine02:05
g14jfarrell: ok cool02:05
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Levandertreke: I've got some problems converting my existing mail to dovecot.  Does your ~/Maildir have to have special permissions so that the dovecot daemon can access them?02:06
LevanderAnybody?02:06
LevanderI've converted my inbox, but no other folders successfully02:06
travisnuxstevenj I don't know ! I find it's fun02:06
travisnuxbut i'm noob02:06
stevenjspeaking of volume control (Panel) I noticed in the preferences I have OSS and Sound Blaster Audigy...both controled the sound..but which is right one to use?02:07
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ThomasWinwoodOkay.02:07
ThomasWinwoodNow.02:07
kakaltocould anyone help, please?02:08
davixkakalto, it shows how to share, but not how to remotely access the share.02:08
nickrudLevander, my Maildir is read only by me, have you subscribed to the other folders?02:08
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occyheh02:08
ThomasWinwoodI have a WEP key which is 96 bytes in length and is in hex. How do I feed this to iwconfig so it will eat it?02:08
ThomasWinwoodbits*02:08
ThomasWinwood13 bytes.02:09
g14ThomasWinwood: convert it to decimal02:09
stevenjhas anyone of you ever had a crazy ex GF that called 100x with 10 differnent calling card numbers?02:09
Ironfroststevenj: I've got to say, no02:09
g14stevenj: like... your mom?02:09
Ironfrostfor which I am eternally greatful02:09
SeamusLPstevenj:  She's psycho, change your number.02:09
E4Josha note i seemed to have found something that my help some memory card slots on some printers work. though im not sure it will work on my printer :/02:09
E4Joshhttp://hpoj.sourceforge.net/02:09
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Yonohey, someone please help me02:10
YonoI just installed ubuntu02:10
stevenjyeah its getting crazy...don't understand it....02:10
Yonoand it didn't create my user02:10
nickrudE4Josh, that's been replaced by hplip, I think it's in universe02:10
Yonohow do I add one with no user to log on as?02:10
] BreliC[anyone?  know how to restore volume control from the panel on gnome?  I ran gst-register to repair the corrupted audio apparently, and now i can no longer add volume control to the panel02:10
stevenj] BreliC[, I had that problem once in Fedora core 3...had to finally reinstall :(02:11
transgressanyone know some good light trance techno?  such as the one in the following video http://whoppix.h07.org/Whoppix-wireless.html02:11
stevenj ] BreliC[, though I am sure that is a better solution02:11
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] BreliC[stevenj, sheesh, i hope so!02:12
Yonoanyone?02:12
] BreliC[all i did was install gstreamer-lame, jack, cwcdr... think that's it02:12
] BreliC[oh, and grip02:12
tbirdYono, man useradd02:13
Yonofrom where?02:13
YonoI'm stuck on the logon screen02:13
stevenj] BreliC[, I might be wrong...but I remember reading on ubuntu forums about turning something off / or on in the terminal app you can run02:13
tbirdfrom a terminal02:13
tbirdoh02:13
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senator32hey i have a stupid question02:13
] BreliC[stevenj, hmm, thanks.  i'll do a search02:13
senator32how do you insatll debian packages02:13
Yonoyeah, that makes it a little harder02:13
tbirdlol02:14
senator32i downloaded 3 files that are not in the package manager02:14
blueyedsenator32, dpkg -i package.deb02:14
senator32thank02:14
senator32s02:14
stevenj] BreliC[, alsamixer -- run that from terminal and look for analog/digital output jack and make sure its not turned off.02:14
stevenj] BreliC[, If you cant run alsamixer then I think your outta luck :(02:16
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korhey02:17
mrtacheonHi, I'm trying to get Ubuntu 5.04 to authenticate to my windows 2000 mixed mode active directory02:17
mrtacheonI followed the instructions here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=540902:17
mrtacheonand now when I try to login as a domain user i get the message "The system administrator has disabled access to the system temporarly."02:18
mrtacheonand I can't login as local users now02:18
] BreliC[stevenj, it's a laptop.  the issue you mention is one i had previously with suse on my desktop with audigy external02:18
] BreliC[in any case, the issue is not that I can't get sound, it's that i can no longer control it from gnome.. .i.e. in the CD Player app, i can control the volume, but my Gnome key bindings no longer work, and I can no longer add the volume applet to the panel. when i try to, it just doesn't appear02:18
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kakaltomrtacheon, is this a windows issue or ubuntu issue? are you in the right place?02:18
jfarrellwhat version of glib and pkg-config are packaged with the latest version of ubuntu02:18
nickrudYono, you need to run init=/bin/sh while starting grub02:18
threadjfarrell: !! no shit02:19
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GustavoSeDo you want to help someone? Know how, and know the story an http://helpmeplease.cjb.net02:19
jfarrellthread, LOL02:19
jfarrellsmall world02:19
threadHeh02:19
ThomasWinwoodkay. I converted the WEP key to decimal (laptop BSODed when I loaded the calculator).02:19
jfarrelli thought you were with Gentoo02:19
Yononickrud: ok, thanks02:19
mrtacheonwell, since i can't even log on to ubuntu anymore i'd say at least that part is an ubuntu issue02:19
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ThomasWinwoodIt's 24 digits long and iwconfig still doesn't like it.02:19
gratuitanyone else using 64 bit hoary finding it to be a bit unstable?02:19
nickrudYono, I can't tell you how to do that from grub, i know lilo :)02:19
threadjfarrell: I'm still a gentoo person on 2 of my 3 machines.. but ubuntu is awesome on this new laptop... and I recommend it to others now02:19
Yonohaha02:19
gratuitand by a bit I mean very02:19
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jfarrellthread, ahh I am going through the pains of install XSP and Mono02:20
threadjfarrell: ah.. haven't tried that on ubuntu02:20
mrtacheoni'm trying to convert people in my business to linux, but slowly, so i'd like to find a distro that easily authenticates to a windows 2000 mixed mode active directory02:20
jfarrellhehe, i would wager most in here havent :)02:20
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fightingfortofuhow do i edit my xorg conf if gnome is running?02:21
goldfishopen it up in an editor02:21
^thehatsrule^sudo vi blah?02:21
transgressfightingfortofu: you vegan?02:21
t3rrorcan anyone tell me why my synaptic manager would have disappeared after i upgraded from warty to hoary?02:21
fightingfortofuyeah i did, text editor, its read only02:21
fightingfortofutransgress, yes02:21
transgressfightingfortofu: use sudo02:21
transgressfightingfortofu: rock on!02:22
korhey02:22
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nickrudfightingfortofu, x only reads that at startup, edit to your hearts' content :)02:22
t3rrorit disappeared from the menu at least02:22
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^thehatsrule^fightingfortofu, use sudo....02:22
jfarrellthread, glib should come with GIMP correct02:22
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transgressfightingfortofu: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:22
kordoes anyone know how to change the alsa card ID?02:22
Epixhow do i restart X?02:22
t3rroris there a command line run for synaptic?02:22
fightingfortofuok.02:22
t3rrori know apt-get02:22
transgresst3rror: apt-get02:22
threadjfarrell: uh... I think it would be a dependency yea02:22
t3rrori wanted something graphical02:22
danthemanEpix: control-alt-backspace02:22
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fightingfortofuthanks!02:22
Epixt3rror: dpkg?02:22
goldfishEpix: ctrl + alt  backspace02:22
transgresst3rror: synaptic?02:22
t3rrorsynaptic02:22
stevenjDoes anyone use subpixil smoothing on their LCD monitor?02:22
Epixgoldfish: that takes it down, what about up?02:22
t3rrori don't think it works02:22
jfarrellahh nevermind, its not glib, its pkg-config not being able to find glib that is causing problems02:22
Epixt3rror: or aptitude02:23
transgresst3rror: are you wanting like an ncurses apt-get?02:23
goldfishstartx02:23
goldfish?02:23
Epixgoldfish: k02:23
transgresswhat is aptitude?  i keep hearing about it, but haven't used it02:23
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ThomasWinwoodHow do I get iwconfig to play ball with my WEP key?02:23
fightingfortofusudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesnt let me edit either02:23
t3rrori installed warty02:23
nickrudaptitude is superior software, frontend for apt02:23
t3rroraptitude is better?02:24
ThomasWinwoodCurrently it's 13 bytes hexadecimal.02:24
t3rrorsynaptic worked well for me02:24
transgressfightingfortofu: what's it say?02:24
raydoggwhere does ubuntu keep the linux headers?02:24
Zindaraptitude sucks :)02:24
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benz2400101011101101000011000010111010000100000011101000110100001100101001000000110011001110101011000110110101100100000011010010111001100100000011101010111000000101100001000000110110101111001001000000110111001101001011001110110011101100001011100110011111102:24
slappy15wtf02:24
transgressbenz240: ima rape you02:24
Zindartomas: write it in /etc/network/interfaces02:24
nickrudaptitude is good, synaptic is good (thought I'd never say that)02:24
Epixgoldfish: wtf? it just sent my monitor into the 'blinking power light' state02:24
stuff2021queston: I installed ubuntu. it rebooted and I get a GRUB error 17 on boot. anyone familiar with this?02:24
ThomasWinwoodZindar: Care to expand on that?02:25
fightingfortofunothing that i was aware i was just able to scroll around with a black cursor box if i hit any keys the pc speaker would beep02:25
goldfishctrl + alt + backspace restarts x for me ..02:25
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gratuitThomasWinwood: iwconfig <device> key <key> doesn't work?02:25
nickrudEpix, you use gnome?02:25
benz24001001100010011110100110002:25
ThomasWinwoodNope.02:25
ThomasWinwoodInvalid argument.02:25
transgresswoohoo got rid of kde 3.4 that i spent hours compiling02:25
Epixnickrud: yes02:25
stuff2021gentoo is a waste of time02:25
stevenjmaybe it got an aptitude02:25
kakaltodoes anyone have any ideas what might have screwed up my sound?02:25
closuretransgress, traitor!02:25
nickrudEpix, echo "gnome-session" > .xsession, then startx02:25
closuretransgress, why did you compile it why not just use the pkg?02:26
transgressclosure: i use gentoo, slack (that will soon be debian), and ubuntu... traitor my ass.02:26
stuff2021so anyone know what a GRUB error 17 would be ?02:26
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closuretransgress, oh this was on another box02:26
transgressclosure: because i must admit seeing gnome and kde boot in like 2 seconds is fun.02:26
closurehrm02:26
closuremust be nice02:26
phenotypedood, put it on a raid 002:26
closure-closure- VERSION xchat 2.4.1 Linux 2.6.10-5-386 [i686/448.30MHz] 02:26
phenotypethen have some fun02:26
closurenever gonna happen on this laptop02:26
closurelol02:26
phenotypeha02:26
Epixnickrud: same thing02:27
stuff2021my linux won't boot. GRUB error 17.... anyone?02:27
transgressalthough ubuntu is killer fast for binaries... debian does something that neither slack packs or rpm's pull off at all.  which is why if i break this gentoo install, ubuntu will be on it in no time.02:27
Epixthe last line that i see from startx is could not init font path element ....02:27
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transgressclosure: i feel your pain... worked an awful job for a couple months to get this computer.02:27
jfarrellalright I give up, where should I point PKG_CONFIG_PATH to so that is sees glib02:27
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closuretransgress, i've got a desktop that's like 2.4ghz this is just my toy02:28
Jerubhi, the new kernel, 2.6.8.1-5 gets 4 lines into the boot sequence and dies on me.02:28
closuremy tv computer as i like to call it02:28
Jerubit reboots.02:28
transgresshehe all my boxes are my toys... this is a gaming machine turned linux box... has a radeon 9800 that doesn't even get used02:28
jfarrellJerub, how ya doing02:28
closureso i can rot twice as many brain cells at once02:28
Jerub2.6.8.1-3 doesn't. any ideas what could cause this?02:28
t3rrorit was telling me that libapt6 was a required dependency for synaptic02:28
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phenotypeanyone know where to get some good looking themes for gnome02:28
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phenotypebesides deviantart.com02:29
transgressi want to find some decent trance techno... but have no clue what kind of stuff that crap is called... it's not as simple as metal02:29
stevenjgnome look02:29
phenotypewhere at steve02:29
abbot45phenotype: did you check gnome-look.org02:29
transgressi do not like deviantart... so ... freaking... slow.02:29
phenotypenope02:29
phenotypethanks02:29
Januxhi, there is no JDK available in synaptics?02:29
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phenotypedeviantart has real good stuff though, even though thier servers are allmost allways overwhelmed02:30
Jerubwhy do I get the feeling no one wants to talk about catastrphic failure caused by kernel upgrades...02:30
nickrudJanux, it's totally unfree, so no.02:30
occy is there a way to change the names of things you have on your desktop... regarding items created via: Places > Connect to server...02:30
stevenjthink I find with gnome themes---is most of them dont freaking work right02:30
stevenjand neither do the icons sets02:30
stevenjsomething is always broken02:31
abbot45ive never found themes that didnt work.  i am having problems with icons since i switched to hoary though.02:31
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Januxnickrud, o...ic....thanks...02:31
ThomasWinwoodDamn, I need this WEP key to work to connect to the Web and do a package upgrade. :(02:31
phenotypeim just looking to mod the menu themes02:31
stevenjI mean they work---but not right02:31
kakaltowhat is the sound card usually called, /dev/?02:31
phenotypei dont care about pointers and crap02:31
tritiumJerub, I haven't heard of that happening to anyone/02:32
abbot45pointers are seperate.  a bit harder to change as well.  but the defaults for ubuntu are pretty cool if you ask me.02:32
fightingfortofuok so if sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesnt let me edit what else can i try>02:32
fightingfortofu?02:32
phenotypeits too big for me02:33
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stevenjmilk 2.1 and gnome-apple would the best theme/icon combo I have seen (IMO) and yet.....little things like icons not working...pixmaps too big not named right....I find it impossible to change the damn the volume.png on the gnome panel...so I just use clearlooks02:33
phenotypemy toolbar for windows is tiny02:33
kakaltoanyone?02:33
phenotypei want the same02:33
ThomasWinwoodGoddamn, how difficult is it to make iwconfig use a WEP key?02:33
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tritiumThomasWinwood, easy.  Did you read the iwconfig man page?02:34
ThomasWinwood...I hate me.02:34
kakaltodoes anyone know what the /dev/sound_device is called?02:34
ThomasWinwoodI forgot that.02:34
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nickrudkakalto, /dev/dsp sometimes :)02:35
kakaltonickrud, I'll see02:35
kakaltothanks02:35
stevenjphenotype, I would never admit to a tiny toolbar02:36
transgressis it bad when you're sitting in your house... and you smell gasoline?02:36
phenotypedont smoke02:36
kakaltonickrud, my problem is that I'm not sure if the software is actually sending a sound signal or not02:36
kakaltothere's no signal on that device02:36
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fightingfortofutrangress, why am i unable to edit xorg.conf!02:37
phenotypedid it used to work?02:37
kakaltoI'm playing some music, but nothing's coming out02:37
phenotypedid it used to work02:37
nickrudkakalto, cat some.wav > /dev/dsp will make noise if your sound subsystem is working02:37
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tritiumfightingfortofu, make sure you're running Hoary (Warty didn't use Xorg).02:37
fightingfortofutritium, i am, 50402:37
phenotypewas it running ok when you initially installed linux, and now its broken, or did it not configure when you installed linux02:37
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phenotypeperhaps because mandrake is a 900 GB install02:38
nickrudkakalto, gnome-alsamixer, and see if everything is on02:38
ThomasWinwoodThe manpage for iwconfig says to just type it in as hex digits as XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX.02:38
geneo93mandrake 10.2 is equal02:38
tritiumfightingfortofu, did you change the file's permissions?  (you're using sudo to edit, right?)02:38
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ThomasWinwoodProblem is mine is longer than that.02:38
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Januxcens0red, I just know that Ubuntu is amazing that it works on my Duron 600 with 256MB, GF2 MX400 32MB02:38
kakaltonickrud, I don't use gnome, it crashes on my system... I installed ubuntu, installed kde, then xfce, and I now use xfce02:38
nickrudalsamixer then02:39
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fightingfortofutritium, not that am i aware of, and i was told to use sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf and alls i could do was scroll around with a black cursor box02:39
tritiumkakalto, /proc/asound has lots of good sound information beneath it02:39
cens0redJanux 32mb? That's impressive! No intermitten screen lockups or anything?02:39
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goldfishfightingfortofu: try using nano instead of vi02:39
kakaltotritium, is that a sound configuration file?02:39
goldfishfightingfortofu: it's alot easier :)02:39
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tritiumkakalto, no, just info02:39
threadmy qt app I'm trying to build isn't seeing my /usr/include/qt3/qglobal.h02:39
stevenjcens0red, one I noticed comparing FC3 and Ubuntu (Hoary) is that hoary does run a bunch crap services by default02:39
kakaltoahk02:39
kakaltothanks02:39
threadwhere do I add that dir so it gets found?02:39
stevenjDOes not02:40
fightingfortofugoldfish, use the same command just sub vi with nano?02:40
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Januxcens0red, as I remember, it should be 32MB, how do I check it out?02:40
goldfishfightingfortofu: yep, nano is a simple editor02:40
cens0redstevenj hoary does? or fc3 does?02:40
goldfishfightingfortofu: when ur finished, ctrl + x, y, enter. To save and exit.02:40
stevenjcens0red, sorry I does not02:40
fightingfortofugoldfish, thanks!02:40
goldfishnp02:40
stevenjcens0red, meant...damn I am tired02:40
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goldfishfightingfortofu: if you want to learn vi/vim, try running vimtutor :)02:41
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fightingfortofugoldfish, it works!02:41
fightingfortofuyay02:41
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ThomasWinwoodSo what do I do when the WEP key is longer than the manpage says it should be?02:41
stevenjcens0red, what I'm trying is that ubuntu (I think) seems fasters or is faster for this reason02:41
cens0redJanux not sure. There's probably an easy way to tell how much ram you have from the command line. Dunno what it is though.02:41
Januxcens0red, hmm..let me see..02:42
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ThomasWinwoodSo what do I do when the WEP key is longer than the manpage says it should be?02:42
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cens0redJanux $cat /proc/meminfo |less02:43
goldfishfightingfortofu: cool02:43
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ThomasWinwoodSo what do I do when the WEP key is longer than the manpage says it should be?02:44
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Januxcens0red, that's only system memory, isn't it?  anyway, I found, it's not 32MB, hahahah..it's 128MB....but let me make sure by going to find the box...did I buy that much? then it doesn't make sense to have this kind of graphics..:P02:44
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XandriXjdub, are u there ???02:45
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Januxcens0red, it's very weird, it shows that I have prefetchable of 128MB, and it's a GF2 MX400 but I found the box, it is actually a GF2MX200 32MB02:46
cens0redJanux well /proc/meminfo says "MemTotal". It tells me "256808 kB", which is correct in my case ... having 2x128meg SDRAM sticks on the mboard.02:46
Januxcens0red, that makes more sense02:46
Thorrn4I have a problem..I have no sound, but earlier it was there; is there a way to get it back?02:46
Januxcens0red, no I was talking about the video card memory, not system memory.  my system has 256MB and video card memory has 32MB02:46
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cens0redJanux well that's not really astounding that ubuntu runs smoothly on your system. Still, pretty good.02:47
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Thorrn4can someone help me with my sound issue?02:49
cens0redanyone checked out http://damnsmalllinux.org/ ? It's pretty cute. I've tried running it on bochs.02:49
Januxcens0red, true...wanna install it on my P233 later...but I guess I will run this Duron 600 as server and make that P233 as thin client.02:49
ElsidoxThorrn4, whats not working?02:49
Thorrn4the sound Elsidox02:49
ElsidoxThorrn4, this might be of some help http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=linux+sound02:49
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davixkakalto, are you here?02:51
kakaltodavix, yeah02:51
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^vir^hi02:52
^vir^has anyone tried out expocity yet?02:53
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jzavalhey, has anyone run into serious X problems with the 7174 nvidia drivers? like an actual-black screen at startup?02:53
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jasperlootYou know the default gnome desktop settings, how there is a panel on the top and bottom?02:54
muwuHi. help me get java plugin working in firefox.. been trying for hours..02:54
jasperlootone says applications and places...etc?02:54
muwuThe method in gnome doesn't work.02:54
cens0redjzaval yeah heaps of people according to ubuntuforums.org. The standard advice there is use the apt-get nvidia drivers.02:54
jasperlootthe other one shows the applications running and minimized browsers?02:55
jzavali get the same thing whether i apt-get the package or i get the NVIDIA drivers02:55
jasperlootwhat is that one called and how do I get it back to my desktop>02:55
jzavalor when i try downgrading02:55
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Thorrn4Elsidox, I HAVE SOUND THANK YOU02:57
ElsidoxThorrn4, no problem =)02:58
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ElsidoxThorrn4, if you need anything eles just ask02:59
jasperloothow do I get metacity back to my desktop?02:59
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LevanderHey, forget the key sequence to switch from X-Windows back to a regular terminal.  It was like Ctrl-Alt-F1 or something.02:59
nickrudEpix, you may want to get the non-free nvidia drivers now, to get away from nv03:00
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muwuhow come java is not working in firefox?03:00
g14Levander: that is correct, and will switch to virtual terminal 103:00
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transgresshaha some guy is giving the workers tips on making the irc server work better03:00
nickrudmuwu, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java method three works for me03:00
transgressi'm sitting there like "why the fuck are you telling me this... we host you."03:00
Thorrn4Elsidox, I got 1 more thing, Kaffeine plays when I close the program (CD music) but the system try is not visual03:01
Thorrn4where did it go, I dont know; it use to be there03:01
Levanderg14: ha! you've got to use Ctrl and Alt on the left side of the keyboard for some reason.  I was using Ctrl and Alt on the right side.  Go figure.03:01
ElsidoxThorrn4, are you running kde?03:01
Thorrn4GNOME03:01
g14Levander: Yeah I guess that would do it03:01
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muwunickrud, will check out now03:01
EricNeonhello all~03:02
jzavalhi03:02
ElsidoxThorrn4, why use kaffeine when totem works great? =)03:02
Januxdoes /var store all log files only? can I delete them as they grow that my filesystem is almost running out?03:02
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Jerubhi03:02
Jerubinstalling a new kernel flat out breaks my system03:02
Levanderg14: well, no, don't know what I was doing wrong, try same thing I tried before, worked this time03:02
jzavaljerub how are you installing the kernel03:02
g14Levander: Weird03:03
jzavalapt-get?03:03
Jerubjzaval: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.8-686803:03
Thorrn4I like Kaffeine...but the point is...that the Elsidox there is no system tray03:03
ElsidoxThorrn4, ohhh there no  system tray at all?03:03
jzavalJerub: you're sure you have a 686 processor?03:03
Thorrn4none Elsidox03:03
Thorrn4there is none at all03:04
ElsidoxThorrn4, right click the panel and add notification area03:04
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Thorrn4there is non Elsidox03:05
Thorrn4none*03:05
jzavalJerub: i recommend using synaptic and doing a search for all things with "686" in them and install all applicable kernel packages...headers, etc03:05
jzaval686 in the title only..03:06
ElsidoxThorrn4, right click on the planel> go to add> scroll down to "notification area"> highlight it and click add. If you dont see "notification area" at all tell me.03:06
dell500w00t03:06
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Thorrn4WWWOOOHHHOOO Elsidox03:07
dell500so how do i switch to KDE now?? :)03:07
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AvvYKDE is evil03:07
dazzedAvvY: sooo right03:07
AvvYlol03:07
dell500why?03:08
dell500gnome is slow03:08
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dazzedits not bad03:08
dazzedget more ram :)03:08
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AvvYi never noticed any problems03:08
icebalmslow on a 48603:08
AvvY486...HAHA03:08
nickruddell500, you go to #kubuntu :)03:08
icebalmI have an athlon xp 2500+, gnome isn't slow03:08
nakatakde is the bomb.03:09
dell500i've got a 2800, it's slow03:09
nakatai'm especially loving 3.403:09
Thorrn4I like xfce03:09
dazzedi have a duron 750mhz and gnome is fine03:09
dell500but that's just me03:09
icebalmdell500: then you have hardware problems03:09
closuredell500, gnome?03:09
dell500yup03:09
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closuredell500, i told you it's sluggish to me03:09
Thorrn4bye all03:10
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dell500seem to be lagging a bit03:10
closuredell500, go KDE come to the darkside >8-)03:10
dell500lol03:10
closuredell500, or "step into the blue"03:10
closuredell500, that's a bit more fitting as K's logo is blue03:10
Jerubjzaval: oh, thanks.03:10
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Jerubjzaval: turns out it was a VIA chip that isn't 68603:10
closuredell500, try it out if you don't like it it's easy to remove03:10
Jerubjzaval: mini-itx board, I assumed intel chip03:10
fightingfortofuok so i messed up my xorg.conf and now x doesnt work but i have the original saved as xorg.conf-old, how do i revert back to the old one?03:10
closuredell500, do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:11
closuredell500, once it's in logout and there will be an option for it under "session"03:11
nakatano more smelly feet on your desktop03:11
nakatahehe03:11
ElsidoxThorrn4, so that helped?03:11
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dell500how do you get to use root in terminal again?? suser?03:12
jzavalsudo03:12
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closuresudo03:12
Elsidoxdell500, or sudo su03:12
jedediahsudo <command name --parameters>03:12
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muwuah java is cracking me up...03:12
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muwuthus far, I've tried make-javapkg (or something like that), manual installation accordign to the "unofficial guide"03:13
dell500what does the live disc have on it?03:13
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decafmunki: make-jpkg worked for me03:13
dell500cause i need to insert the Release disc, not sure if that's the install or live03:13
ewqaerhow do you load an exe. file?03:14
muwudecaf, well, it used to work before.. now, it doesn't (after complete reinstallation)03:14
jzavalewqaer03:14
jzavalget wine03:14
closuredell500? is your ubuntu box online?03:14
dell500yup03:14
ewqaerwine?03:14
dell500i'm on it03:14
closureoh03:14
dell500wine = Windows emulator for exe files and such03:14
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closurewhy is it not getting the kubuntu from the repositories i wonder03:14
muwuman, linux =\= "just works"03:15
jedediahAnyone ever try to run ubuntu on a compaq/hp laptop with an ATI video card?03:15
closureor are you installing something else?03:15
closuremuwu, haha that's the truth03:15
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ppeace everyone! how is everyone tonight (u don't really have to answer [^_~] ... does anyone know where I can learn to ask Konsole to run a command or install something.. like the ATI Drivers.. I don't need the quick answer, I just wonder where to read on it.. (TIA)03:15
dell500closure, did sudo su, password inserted, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:15
jzavalewqaer: type "sudo apt-get install wine" into your console03:15
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arkainiumwine is not an emulator... lol03:15
jzavalhaha03:15
p(is there a Kubuntu channel, anyone know?)03:16
muwuclosure, seriously, everytime I have to get the same functionality of Windows XP, I have to spend at least a few hours reading Man pages, HOWTO's, and editing bunch of stuff...03:16
dell500says to insert the  'Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)'03:16
nickrudmuwu, what kind of errors are you getting while using make-jpkg?03:16
closure*shrugs* put your install disk in03:16
closuremaybe it's on there03:16
jedediahDell500: did you add the online repositories and delete your CD (binary) repos.?03:16
muwuRant/Troll continued: seriously, linux might be free, but it takes a lot of time.. (well not in the sort of cleaning out malwares, but just setting it up_03:16
cens0redp /list #kubuntu03:16
closuremuwu, it's a piece dude that's for sure03:16
dell500jedediah, not yet03:16
dell500should i do that before?03:16
muwunickrud, it works now.. I had to delete and re do ln -s to the plug in03:16
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jedediahdell500: It worked for me03:17
p---(closure) thanky!03:17
closurep?03:17
dell500it's working, it just needed the cd in *shrug*03:17
closure#kubuntu03:17
jedediahthat works too03:17
muwuWell, now only if I can get my USB flash memory hot plug working... it works for the couple of times then it craps on me.. unless I restart.03:17
nickrudmuwu, strange, it put in the link in mozilla/firefox for me, but whatever works03:17
nakatadell500: didn't it just say that?03:17
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dell500k, well it's updating, i'll bb in a bit03:17
dell500nakata, ya03:17
muwuNow, I can finally finish that student loan consolidation application.. (sigh sigh).03:17
dell500but i think if i updated the repos it wouldn't of asked03:17
closurep, #kubuntu not sure if you saw that03:17
nakataright => on.03:17
nickrudmuwu, it's a hack, but sometimes i do /etc/init.d/hotplug restart03:18
syn1how do i set my cdrw drive to DMA on03:18
syn1?03:18
pI saw it  Closure.. thanks a mill (logging on as we speak/txt)03:18
fightingfortofuim horrible at trying to get the ati drivers working.03:18
goldfishsyn1: hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc03:18
muwunickrud, I never realized why hotplut didn't work under KdE but works (kinda) under GNOME, it turns out.. ubuntu hotplug depends on gnome-volume-manager...03:18
nickrudsyn1, hdparm -d1 /dev/<whereeveryourcdromis>03:18
closurejedediah, does the install cd not automaticly add the online repo's?03:19
syn1nickrud: wheres the cd rom at by default03:19
p>> peace everyone! ya'll have a beautiful night and keep supporting ubuntu!03:19
jzavaljedediah, no it doesn;t03:19
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nickrudsyn1, depends on where you've got it plugged into in your machine03:20
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dell500xchat is the shizzle, can connect to more than one server at a time in one window, w00t03:20
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muwuseriously, they better fix hotplugging.. i mean in Windows, you plug in something, and it just shows up..without a failure.. no need to do "mout xxx" and then "umount" everytime..03:21
dell500having cable is awesome, it's gonna suck when i go away for school though, no fast internet :(03:21
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nickrudsyn1, try ls -l /dev/cdrom03:21
muwudell500, your grade won't suffer.. don't get fast internet..03:21
muwuin fact, don't bring your computer to school..03:22
jzavalhaha03:22
jzavalthats good advice right there03:22
syn1nickrud: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-04-26 15:47 /dev/cdrom -> hdc03:22
muwuit's so true.. my grades in college went down ever since getting a PC...03:22
dell500well i'm going to be an incoming transfer student at soph level (i've been bouncing around schools and stuff) so when i wanna use the internet, it's gonna suck cause we might have to do dialup03:22
nickrudsyn1, hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc03:22
jzavali failed two classes in a semester because of counter-strike03:22
muwuright now, in grad school, I might get all C's..because of computers03:22
muwu'03:22
dell500but it all depends on money i guess03:22
davixhow do I change an SMB's share encoding or charset?03:22
dell500muwu, so true, so true03:22
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muwuseriously, just get a TV, and a dvd player... that's enough foryour entertainment.. if you need to write a paper, go to computer lab.03:23
nickrudsyn1, then man hdparm, and edit /etc/hdparm.conf so it happens every time you boot03:23
syn1nickrud: thanks man03:24
joe|codeBuh Bye KDE03:24
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muwudamn you loanconslidation.ed.gov, their java script doesn't work in firefox...03:24
geneo93nickrud:  will that work on scsi cdr03:24
icebalmwrite them a nasty email03:25
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Vision-KornI have a wg511 on my dell insprion 1100 and i cant get it to work on the internet03:25
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Vision-KornI have a wg511 on my dell insprion 1100 and i cant get it to work on the internet ----- can someone help03:25
nickrudgeneo93, haven't a clue :)03:25
thechitowncubswhats the problem with it?03:26
geneo93my scsi cdr is sr003:26
dell500back a r00ni03:26
nickrudgeneo93, and how are ya03:26
Vision-Kornthe card lights up and it says 100% signal but still no internet03:26
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thechitowncubsVision-Korn: did you install the prism54 firmware?03:27
Vision-Kornyes03:27
usualI have an issue with the desktop in hoary, when I download things in firefox, the show up on the desktop, but they are a little off the screen ...too far to the left03:27
geneo93oh fine i think but both dvdr and cdr cant be used03:27
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Hatesbabyblue2thechitowncubs 24-13-196-7203:28
nickrudgeneo93, i've never used scuzzy stuff, so i'd be talking out of an orifice not used in polite company03:28
nickrudgeneo93, you mean you simply cant' read from them?03:29
geneo93i think this thing is confused about what to use03:29
geneo93mandrake is the same way03:29
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nickrudusual, welcome to the club :)03:30
usualnickrud, known issue then?03:30
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devnul1hey03:30
nickrudusual, it's been that way since I started using 2.003:30
dazzedwhats the prob usual ?03:30
usualdazzed, I have an issue with the desktop in hoary, when I download things in firefox, the show up on the desktop, but they are a little off the screen ...too far to the left03:31
dazzedoh yeah thats been around for some time now03:31
muwuah, I am done with loan consolidatin..03:31
dazzedmuwu: no03:31
jedediahHas anyone experienced getting thrown back to the console? Every once in a while (and completely randomly), my X session is lost and I see the console. However, ps -auwx shows that everything is still running.03:31
muwuFor those with huge student loans, do your consolidation to luck in your student interest rate before they raise in July 1...03:31
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jzavaljedediah, are you pressing ctrl-alt-backspace, by chance?03:32
nickruddazzed, you run in circles above me :)03:32
muwunickrud, dazzed, good for you..03:33
dleHi.  What's the command that makes a new font in ~/.fonts/ available?03:33
dell500i'll bbl, don't feel too good03:33
muwu"are you pressing ctrl-alt-backspace, by chance?" :D03:33
dell500peace03:33
dazzedjedediah: are u happening ot be pressing ctrl + alt + f* by any chance03:33
devnul1a common typo :) hit a bunch of keys at the same time03:33
nickrudmuwu, we know just how lucky we were ....03:33
jzavalwell, it sounds like it...03:33
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transgressokay the smell of gasoline in my house is really starting to freak me out03:33
jzavalhaha03:33
devnul1nice you guys all have different colloured nicks!03:33
dazzedim getting this kubuntu-desktop crap to see what the fuss is about03:33
devnul1:P03:34
geneo93nickrud:  what the name for device manager03:34
jedediahNope, not even touching the keyboard, just randomly03:34
dazzedmy flux still owns gnome and kde by far03:34
jzavalheating oil or gasoline?03:34
muwuThings to do when I have more time: 1. fix hotplug 2. enable NAT or whatever to share internet using my wireless card03:34
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fightingfortofuim struggling trying to figure out how to get ati drivers and video out working :(03:34
jzavaljedediah: what happens when you restart x03:34
devnul1if you have a static IP, I suggest SNAT :)03:34
jedediahIf I re-run gdm, I can log in again, but I can't find a way to reconnect my display03:34
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muwufightingfortofu, good luck.. ATI drivers suck under Linux...03:34
nickrudgeneo93, if I understand you, system-> admin->device manager03:34
jedediahkill HUP X sends me back to the logon03:34
dazzedfightingfortofu: did u download the ati glk03:34
devnul1kunbuntu?03:34
dazzedglx*03:34
geneo93nickrud:  ok thanks03:35
muwufightingfortofu, just get a well supported low end NVIDIA card and save your time and hair (from falling out due to frustration/anger/disappointment)03:35
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^vir^kubuntu is ubuntu loaded with kde03:35
fightingfortofudazzed, no, ive been following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 and being so new its hard to understand what exactly im should be doing03:35
redemption'Ello all03:35
^vir^hi03:35
nickrudmuwu, is there a decent pci nvidia card (for my ancient machine)03:36
jzavalbesides, gnome has a cooler logo. and a cooler name :-D03:36
devnul1oohhhh, I tried that but KDE doesnt like the gome directory being CIFS or SMB :(03:36
dazzedfightingfortofu: let me look at the ubuntu forums and see what ur going through03:36
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devnul1gome = home03:36
devnul1typo03:36
muwuit tooke me four hours to get ATI opengl hardware accelaration going... it worked good enough in the end.. only to realize that my mplayer -vo xv got broken in the process.03:36
fightingfortofumuwu, that sounds boring. i have a perfectly good card i should be able to figure out to get ir workign03:36
devnul1BBL03:36
fightingfortofudazzed, thanks!03:36
nickrudGNU Object Modelled Environment = cool?03:36
muwunickrud, any nvidia over GEforce 200 would be good enough..unless you are going to play games.. seriously ATI sucks in linux03:36
^vir^muwu, whats a good gfxs card under linux?03:37
nickrudmuwu, not really games, just luminocity :)03:37
^vir^ahh nvidia...03:37
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muwuwell, I no longer own any nvidia, but based on my past experience (1.5 year ago), nvidia driver installation is a breeze, and performance is pretty good.03:37
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muwunickrud, even onboard nforce 2 card would run luminosity smoothly... not ATI.03:38
redemptionfrom what I understad nvidia performance is much better under linux then ATI due to state of the drivers.03:38
nickrudmuwu, thanks, I think I can waste that kind of money :)03:38
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jzavalthe 7174 drivers are buggy as hell with some geforce2's03:38
nickrudjzaval = party pooper :)03:39
jzavalyea...03:39
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brentoni'm experiencing some strange behavior with php and mysql... i can get phpmyadmin working... but wordpress swears i don't have mysql03:39
jzavali've only been trying to get them to work for 3 weeks03:39
cyberdyneHY FAGS! I BRING TO YOU THE GLORY OF THE GNAA!03:39
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nickrudI just would like to keep this thing running for a few more years, it's my baby.03:40
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cyberdyne*GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *GNAA* *G03:40
nopeaanybody install VLC on Unbutu?03:40
jzaval[eyeroll] 03:40
^thehatsrule^wtf.03:40
Jeruba 203:40
redemptionwow, how annoying.03:40
nickruddoes that kind of thing happen often?03:40
Boohbahthis channel really needs some ops03:40
hypnonopea: yeah, its in apt03:40
Delphlol03:41
brentoni'm experiencing some strange behavior with php and mysql... i can get phpmyadmin working... but wordpress swears i don't have mysql03:41
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DelphGNAA hits #ubuntu =:)03:41
bpuccioa quick google for GNAA brings up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Nigger_Association_of_America03:41
dazzedfightingfortofu: you see everything in the textboxes with $ before it...thats what your supposed to be entering into your term03:41
jzavalyea, its from slashdot03:41
fightingfortofudazzed, yeah i figured that out03:41
dazzedfightingfortofu: and just follow the instructions u should be good03:41
bpucciowow, had no idea that people had so much free time to disrupt others03:41
nopeaevertime I try to install I get dependcies errors03:41
hypnobpuccio: aye they're a known troll group03:41
brentoni've been googling this for a while, and it seems other people with ubuntu have had similar problems03:41
^vir^cyberdyne is a bloody immature pick :(03:41
Delphat least it's not doing #debian at the same time.03:41
fightingfortofudazzed, i keep messing up my xorg.conf :/03:41
dazzedfightingfortofu: you know what ur doing wrong?03:42
fightingfortofudazzed, i think.03:42
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jzavalfightingfortofu, run sudo dpgk-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:42
hypnonopea: are you on hoary? and what are the dependency errors?03:42
fightingfortofujzaval, why what will that do?03:42
jzavalit rebuilds the xorg file03:43
bpucciotroll groups?  wow, never heard of such...  boggles my mind, anyhow, I'm off to do school work, night all03:43
dazzedfightingfortofu: just look for every instance in that example file for you that says ATI or glx for drivers or devices and add them or replace those lines in ur xorg.conf03:43
nopeahypno: Yes Horay - I will get the the erros03:43
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jzavalin a more user friendly way, fightingfortofu03:43
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fightingfortofudazzed, i think im messing up on step 3 where it says to copy relevant sections to your xorg.conf03:43
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fightingfortofujzaval, i already messed up one and reverted back to the defualt one that i save with sudo cp03:44
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jzavaloh you already saved it.03:44
redemptionanyone know how to copy a working install on one harddrive to another harddrive so that you can remove the first hard drive? i.e. copy everything over then install grub on the other harddrive?\03:44
fightingfortofujzaval, yes the howto said to!03:45
nopeahypno: is it in Ubuntu's source list?03:45
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jzavalfightingfortofu, some people think themselves above such petty measures...no offense meant :-D03:45
hypnonopea: if you mean package database, yeah, it installed fine for me from apt03:45
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phasegenFor those in here earlier when I was crying like a three year old... I'm Sorry.  My noob butt just needed to google the wiki to find what I needed.03:46
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nopeahypno03:46
p(redemption) .. if you find out, post it somehow, as I'd love to move to a bigger HD without having to go through all of this again...03:46
joseAwayany known issues with g3 ibooks and the ppc livecd I should know about?03:46
nopeahyno: whats is the package name?03:46
phasegenI feel so dumb about that...03:46
fightingfortofujzvaval, this is my second day with linux03:46
p(phasegen).. happens to all of us.. I keep my RTFM as my  badge near my computer so no one has to tell me off (lol)03:47
jzavalrofl03:47
hypnoredemption: if you have a livecd you should be able to set your new hard drive as the root when you boot the kernel. You should then run grub normally - someone who knows grub better might know a better way.03:47
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hypnonopea: 'vlc'03:48
muwup, BUT why do we need freaking manuals/HOWTO's to do simple things?03:48
nickrudp, redemption  take a look at http://www.linuxdig.com/howto/ldp/Hard-Disk-Upgrade.php03:48
phasegenI'll be okay in a couple of days, after I get my head out and clean it up a bit...03:48
phasegenthank you all very much.03:48
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fightingfortofui think one of my problems is that i dont really know how to read the conf03:48
nickrudphasegen, we all have bad days ...03:48
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hypnomuwu: because it's not easy enough yet03:49
muwuphasegen, do some yoga/meditation/praying/fasting/sex/smokingpot03:49
nopeahypno: OK dont see it in synaptic - The VLC site has a link to put in my source list but that one doenst work03:49
redemptionnickrud: Thank your!03:49
nickrudmuwu, because no one is paid to make it easy, basically.03:49
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muwuyes, because most people who use linux are bunch of geeks.. i mean hard-core geeks who hate GUI/KISS philosophy'03:50
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p(muwu) word.. lol.. so I should find one that states: RTFHT (lololol)03:51
RRubinnah. making guis and simplifying complex stuff take huge ammounts of time03:51
muwuUbuntu is a lot easier than previous distro's, but it's still far away..03:51
] BreliC[nopea, do you have the multiverse and universe sources enabled?03:51
CarlKKiss rocks03:51
hypnomuwu: maybe but that's changing03:51
RRubinthere is something to be said for learning a complex tool03:51
jzavalthinkgeek wisdom: chicks dig unix.03:51
nickrudmuwu, I agree totally, but to get something for free, I expect to work for it :)03:52
RRubinyou wouldnt walk into a woodshop and expect to be able to make a nice end table without years of exp03:52
Naliothnopea, just jumped in, but do you have your sources.list fully stocked?03:52
jzavalyou mean no one else uses *nix to pick up women?03:52
jzaval:-D03:52
nopeaBreliC:yes universe is commented out03:52
] BreliC[today's society looks for instant gratification... they don't expect to have to work for anything and want to be instantly rewarded03:52
muwuthings I had to do to get some functionality out of Unbuntu Hoary: 1. set up java (3 hours) 2. set up bluetooth (1 hour) 3. set up printer (1 hour) 4. setup Palm syncro (1 hour)03:52
nickrudjzaval, you geek king03:52
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jzavalmuwu, java took 3 hours?03:52
Naliothnopea, you need universe and multiverse UNcommented out03:53
RRubinmuwu: write up the steps, for the next guy03:53
hypnomuwu: what sources are listed under the hoary entry in synaptic's repository dialog? There should be "Officially maintained" and maybe others03:53
muwujzaval, java was the hardest03:53
nopeaNalioth, what would be the def. of full stocked :)03:53
jzavalwhat the hell went wrong muwu?03:53
Naliothnopea, you need all of em, plus maybe marrilat03:53
muwuRrubin, I should...03:53
hypnonot muwu , nopea03:53
RRubinmuwu: or better, make script .deb's for those packages that automates it..03:53
] BreliC[nopea, yes, make sure they are not commented (no # in front of them) and you need to refresh your sources (sudo apt-get update)03:53
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muwujzaval, first, I didn't now how to setup paths for java... so I had to read up on that, still I am confused..03:53
geneo93nickrud:  what the story with dvdrip03:53
hypnomuwu: theres a nice three-step guide to installing java on the ubuntuguide site03:54
] BreliC[nopea, you dn't need marillat for VLC if that's what you're looking for03:54
redemptionnickrud: the problem with that howto is it is limited to lilo. nothing on grub.  Thanks for sharing though!03:54
nickrudgeneo93, no dvd in this machine :)03:54
Naliothnopea, the http://www.ubuntuforums.org have answers and addresses for all these nice repositorys03:54
nickrudredemption, just move your grub config, and update-grub, i would think03:54
nopeaok all open - lets see...03:54
muwugeneo93, settup dvdrip would be a challenge.. you have to reinstall mplayer (recompile with lame support, and mencoder), then you have to install bunch of libraries, but one of the packages is broken, so basically, you can't.03:54
] BreliC[incidentally, is there a way to make my CD rip at a faster speed than 2.5x on average?? Sheesh, it's a 40x spin, 8x burner (i know, slow by today's standards).. but seriously03:55
muwugeneo93, I recommend acidrip, which actually works.. but you have to recompile mplayer03:55
hypnomuwu: not true, i'm ripping a dvd with mencoder right now03:55
redemptionnickrud: Unfortunately my old harddrive is ide and my new one is SATA. hda1 versus sda103:55
fightingfortofuat http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html#install under 5. configure x, where section module is do i just want those three to load only or do i want the other things in my conf that are already there to load as well as the three?03:55
muwuhypno, i prefer GUI/frontend... :)03:55
geneo93hmm i like mplayer the way it is03:55
nickrudredemption, yeah, that thing is from 2000, but, a moment03:55
hypnoyeah but when there's no choice.. A choice is best, though.03:55
muwualso, tried to gkismet working, but alas, I am missing some libraries and don't know how to get them.03:55
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jzavalwhen people ask me why i use linux, i open firestarter and show them the network scans, irc scans, and sasser attacks that happen less than every five seconds03:56
nickrudgroup, doesn't cp -ar get an accurate partition copy to a new partition?03:56
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nopeaNalioth,03:56
muwugeo93, but don't you need to enable lame support to get mp3 encoding working? unless you prefer ogg03:56
nopeaNalioth, ok that did it03:56
hypnomuwu: the art of figuring out which package contains the library that a compile script is complaining about is a black one, indeed.03:56
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geneo93well i just wanted to rip a dvd today before i had to take it back03:57
RRubinis there a packages.debian.org equiv for ubuntu?03:57
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] BreliC[anyone?  what speeds are you getting when you rip a CD?03:58
muwui guess I kinda wished I had the option of downloading a program that is already statistically linked... I mean if apt-get doesn't fully resolve dependencies...then instead of spending hours reading man's and editing config's.. I would rather download prelinked versions..03:58
jzavalrrubin, just enable all the repositories in synaptic, making sure to check multiverse and universe03:58
hypnogeneo93: packages.ubuntu.com03:58
hypnoRRubin even03:58
redemptionnickrud: I've been using cp -aRx `dir name in root directory' 'new place'03:58
Naliothnopea, with all the aforementioned repositories, you have access to lots more stuff, read the ubuntuforums.org guides03:59
RRubinjzaval: you can search that for 'all packages that contain files like ___' ?03:59
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nickrudredemption, sata stuff sucks now, i hear, but since i don't have one ....03:59
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jzavalyea, rrubin03:59
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nopeaI noticed in the synaptic manager that I have the i386 kernel installed... I am on a P4 3ghz should I be using the 686?03:59
FeJaOrdoes anybody know if there is any project on release Ubuntu 5.10??03:59
tritiumnopea, you could, yes03:59
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nopeatritium, should i remove the 386 kernel?04:00
jzavalnopea, you could, but many packages, including the nvidia, are more buggy on 68604:00
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jzavalthe optimization is not that much with the 686 kernel, nopea04:00
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tritiumnopea, I would first install the -686 kernel, and then only remove the 386 kernel after everything is verified to work correctly04:00
nopeaI am using the Nvidia package so maybe I wont04:00
muwujzaval, how about for Athlon XP?04:00
snarfis there a list of supported hardware for ubuntu? i am not sure if my wireless card will work04:01
RRubinjzaval: is it the cpu opts that make nvidia more unstable?04:01
FeJaOrdoes anybody know if there is any project on release Ubuntu 5.10??04:01
geneo93jzaval:  i have nvidia on 686smp and it works just fine04:01
tritiumnopea, there are no problems with nvidia on 68604:01
redemptionnickrud: as much as sata stuff sucks, it's still better then my current ide hd. faster thoroughput with no dma on then my ide with dma on.04:01
redemptiont:-P04:01
p let's talk dual head..04:01
phehehe04:01
jzavaldunno, just i had nvidia issues with 68604:01
Zindarfejaor: what do you mean?04:01
ptrying so hard for 2 days now to get it working =(04:01
Zindarfejaor: sure.. 5.10 will be released04:01
RRubinjzaval: custom compiled?04:01
pbut will keep at it! (I am in love with linux!)04:01
FeJaOrZindar, when is that going to happen?04:01
nickrudredemption, I don't doubt it, my system is so slow i'm not telling04:01
phenotype_ok, laugh as you wish, im a complete noob04:02
woolsherpahatOne of my users wrecked there gnome configs, if you try to log in you get gnome-panel already started error04:02
tritiumnopea, just install linux-686, and it'll grab linux-image- and linux-restricted-modules, and you'll be set04:02
Zindarfejaor: 5.10 = 2005-1004:02
phenotype_i need help installing a program, compiling it from source04:02
] BreliC[anyone here using the 64 bit version on an AMD64?04:02
woolsherpahatI can't seem to get any debugging information or kill gnome-panel from a terminal04:02
geneo93FeJaOr: october04:02
phenotype_can anyone help04:03
] BreliC[phenotype_, what's the problem?04:03
pbtw: there is someone on the KDE channell who messed up their KDE..04:03
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woolsherpahatDoes gnome keep logs anywhere?04:03
phenotype_dont know how to install a program04:03
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FeJaOrMy mozilla firefox just crashed and I forced it to quit but now I cannot open it cause everytime I tried to open it the starting part shows up but then it quits.....anyone??04:03
] BreliC[phenotype_, ok, what are you trying to install?04:03
hypnophenotype_: did you read the INSTALL file?04:03
RRubinphenotype_: look for a readme04:03
phenotype_its kai04:03
FeJaOrZindar, so basically it's like upgrades they released every month or what??04:03
phenotype_www.teamxlink.co.uk04:03
phenotype_from there04:04
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] BreliC[phenotype_, what type of file was it, a .tar.gz?  a .deb?04:04
phenotype_i have the .tar.gz04:04
Zindarfejaor: kind of... see it as "new releases" rather than "upgrades"... but you can upgrade to it04:04
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goldfishtar -xvzf blah.tar.gz04:04
FeJaOrZindar, ok...just wondering that04:05
FeJaOrMy mozilla firefox just crashed and I forced it to quit but now I cannot open it cause everytime I tried to open it the starting part shows up but then it quits.....anyone??04:05
phenotype_you have to compile it, as i see, but i dont know where the command line is04:05
nopeatritium, is there advantges of the 686 kernal? I thought it would be on by default as most computers are 686 now days04:05
jzavalphenotype_ , make sure theres not already a package on apt04:05
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Zindarpheno: try to find a package instead.... compiling from source should only be done by developers04:06
] BreliC[phenotype_, when you went to download it, did you notice that there is a link to a Debian-specific site?  Xebian... http://www.xbox-linux.org/Xebian04:06
phenotype_no04:06
DelphZindar: ooooooh, not sure about that one.04:06
hypnoFeJaOr: tried logging out of gnome?04:06
phenotype_is that on the team xlink site?04:06
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jzaval686 kernel is optimized for 686 processors, nopea, it uses your processor more effeciently04:06
jzavalim not much of a hardware guy04:07
] BreliC[phenotype_, the link was, yes.. actually, my mistake, it's a full linux distro based on Debian based for Xbox04:07
phenotype_] Brelic[ is that on the team xlink site?04:07
Levanderjzaval: that's basically right about the 686 kernel04:07
hybridhello04:07
geneo93Zindar:  he could use checkinstall04:07
hybridi am having serious problems04:07
Levanderuses optimization features introduced in that kernel, also available on subsequent x86 processors04:07
jzavalwhats up, hybrid?04:07
venkmanin oracle, is there a way to return a cursor to a temporary table, such that the information in the temporary table only lasts as long as there's records in the cursor/04:08
Levanderphenotype_: I've had to compile software a couple of times when I didn't find packages for it...04:08
hybridi am on breezy and restarted and when i did all i got was cli! roght down to the login.04:08
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stevenjQuestion to any networking experts---I have firestarter running (auto) and ICMP blocked--shields up finds everything is complete stealth mode---yet I am constantly blocking gnutella connections---I dont have any peer to peer crap installed...any suggestions04:08
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hybridjzaval: i typed X at the command line and i got some graphicks like it was starting up but would never load up04:09
hybrid...04:09
redemptionnickrud: FYI @ newegg.com 80 gig WD SATA HD for 64 bucks. (that's with shipping and 7.250 tax)04:09
jzavalbreezy is less than a month into a 6 month development04:09
Levanderredemption: what's the rpm on that drive?04:09
dcravenheh04:09
nopeaok back to my VLC topic... I got it running and playing a VCD but there is no sound... same with an audio CD - anybody else have this?  CD Player is working04:09
hypnostevenj: go round to those gnutella users houses' and ask them to stop?04:09
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redemption7200 rpm with 8 MB cache.04:09
hybridjzaval: i know04:09
redemptionnickrud: 7200 rpm with 8 MB cache.04:09
hybrid:D04:09
Levanderredemption: don't they have 10,000 rpm drives out now?04:10
nickrudredemption, this motherboard doesn't accept more than 256M04:10
hypnonopea: install vlc-esd04:10
jzavalyou can't expect breezy to work at this stage, hybrid, the people currently using breezy are the ones who can figure these things out and then fix them and then report them04:10
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jzavalhaha04:10
Levanderand really, the ppl using breezy are the ones developing it04:10
redemptionnickrud:... ouch. You have my sympathy my friend.04:10
stevenjhypno, but how does anyone even see me....maybe it was when I tested peer to peer blocking using shields up?04:10
hybridjzaval: yea but i was hoping it was already fixed :P04:10
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jzavalhoary for now, hybrid04:10
jzaval:-D04:10
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redemptionlevander: they do, but I was trying to upgrade my system with an emphasis on quietness.04:11
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Levanderredemption: i see04:11
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hybridwell ty04:11
nopeahypno, what is that? shouldnt it already be there? (sorry I am full of silly questions my 4 year old boy is an influance ;))04:11
hypnostevenj: doubt it, perhaps just trying random ip's in a range. wouldn't worry about it to be honest, it's harmless.04:11
Levanderredemption: where'd you see that the 7200 rpm drives are quieter?04:11
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hypnonopea: ubuntu uses the esd sound subsystem by default. vlc-esd is the plugin for vlc to talk to esd04:11
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stevenjhypno, I know...but you would think people had better things do04:12
nopeahyno, cheers!04:12
hypnostevenj: doubt they are even aware of it04:12
stevenjhypno, hmm04:12
redemption...I don't know.  I think I read it like a year or two ago.  Or I may have made it up completely thinking I remembered it.  One other thing about 7200 vs. 10000 is 7200 is cheaper generally.04:12
jzavalyou would think people have better things to do than spam gnaa stuff in here too,04:12
stevenjjzaval, who is spamming04:13
Levanderredemption: well, it does make sense, but sometimes new technology is better in more ways than one. Is possible that it's faster and quieter.04:13
jbAUanyone have any experience with meta/virtual packages?  I want to create some04:13
jzavalthere was someone who flooded a few minutes ago04:13
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stevenjO04:13
nopeahypno, that did it :)04:13
fightingfortofuyay! OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9600 XT Generic04:13
hypnonopea: great :)04:14
redemptionlevander: True, but it's always been my experience that faster moving parts = more noise.04:14
jzavalie Formular 1 racer versus electric wheelchair.04:14
Levanderwow, has anybody seen how they've redesigned amazon product pages?04:14
Levanderthat's first redesign I've seen on amazon since I can remember.04:15
nopeasomebody should try doing an ASIO subsystem for Linux! that would ne cool04:15
jzavalpsh-aw. amazon is soo 199904:15
pgood nigt ppz!04:15
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fightingfortofuand tv out works!04:16
Levanderlol @ jzaval for insisting on being trendy!04:16
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jzavalyou bet your sweet tosh </flamboyant>04:16
jzaval*toosh04:17
Levanderyou have a pink cell phone also?04:17
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jzavalalright, goodnight guys...04:17
epodWhy is it that no games I install or plugins work with my sound, but I have system sounds and xmms if set to esd has sound?  What kind of distro ships with broken sound?04:17
jzavalyes, levander, studded with rhinestones04:17
jzaval:-D04:17
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=== darkaudit has found that my Audigy card justWorks, compared to struggling with onboard sound...
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epodall I am doing is installing say, tuxracer or supertux via synaptic.  Nothing weird.  It's something you'd expect to work04:18
redemptionepod, it may be that you have a soundcard that doesn't do hardware mixing.04:19
epodredemption, that would be what esd is for, wouldn't it?04:19
redemptionepod: thus ESD will be taking up the one channel your soundcard has.04:19
thechitowncubswhere is the text file with all the network setup info?04:19
epodbesides, supertux telling me /dev/sequencer doesn't exist seems to be a bit more than a sound channel issue04:19
Levanderthechitowncubs: there are a few of them04:19
thechitowncubsLevander: which one is the most common04:19
Levanderthechitowncubs: which specific entry?04:20
redemptionepod: yeah, but not everything uses ESD. Most games for example.04:20
thechitowncubsstatic ips, essid names...04:20
hypnoepod: that means you dont have midi support04:20
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epodredemption, well, I mean, I hate to say it, but windows manages to pla multichannel sound.  Does Linux not have some facility to support it?04:20
epodhypno, ah.04:20
Delphepod: yes; but your packages aren't compiled to use it.04:20
Levanderthechitowncubs: /etc/resolv.conf has where to find the name servers...04:20
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epodDelph, I'm just using the ones from the ubuntu repositories.04:20
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Levanderthechitowncubs: what are you trying to do?04:21
Delphepod: just the ones from the core repositories?04:21
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hypnoepod: go ask the hardware manufacturers :)04:21
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epodso is there a solution to this, asides from re-compliing all my packages?04:21
Linforcerhey, so I have these volume up and down buttons shortcuts mapped to keys on my keyboad, and I press them and I see some volume gauge go up and down, but it has no effect on the actual voulme >.> anyone have a clue why?04:21
thechitowncubsI'm trying to change my static IP04:21
epodhypno, that's not a solution to my issue and you know it :)04:21
nopeawhile I am here... anybody have an Epson Inkjet printer working?04:21
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thechitowncubsbut i think i messed up one of the files04:21
epodDelph, well, whichever repository supertux and tuxracer are in04:21
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redemptionEpod: by doing software mixing.  Alsa is working on this and has partially succeeded, but it's still in  the stage where it is hard to configure.  your best bet would be to purchase like a 20 buck SB live card.04:21
Levanderthechitowncubs: hold on04:21
Delphepod: that's what I'm asking you.04:21
fightingfortofugetting the ati drivers and tv out working was actually very easy, i was just messing up with the formot of xorg.conf04:21
thechitowncubsnvm04:21
thechitowncubsi found it04:21
thechitowncubs/etc/network/interfaces04:22
epodredemption, unfortunately, I'm on a notebook.04:22
Delphepod: if you're pulling stuff in from universe then you can hardly complain.04:22
epodDelph, hang on let me check.04:22
fightingfortofuhow do i change the tvs resolution?04:22
hypnoepod: you don't recompile packages. Just remove esd and make sure you only play one thing at once. That's the only option unless your card has hardware multichannel support, really.04:22
Levanderthechitowncubs: okay, good04:22
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epodDelph, sure I can complain, it's yet another obstacle to 'Linux on the desktop' lol.  I mean., MS Windows can multichannel on my card, so there is no *technical* reason Linux can't.04:22
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nopeaCoreAudio can do it too :)04:23
Delphepod: it *can*04:23
nopeaWith Direct Monitoring to boot04:23
Delphyou just don't have it capable of doing so by use of the magic wand.04:23
dell500closure, you still around?04:23
epodWell then, where is a howto?04:23
Delphwhich is what you get with half-rate hardware.04:23
nickrudepod, here you go: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin04:23
Deterministok , synaptic shows i have mysql installed , or at least i hope i got it right. how can i make sure it is so?04:23
Delphepod: *hands epod a C programming manual*04:23
epodFind me a notebook with a multichannel soundblaster, Delph.04:24
epodheh04:24
xiphoi just installed vsftpd, where is the folder located to put files in?04:24
epodnickrud, k04:24
redemption*laughs* Delph, you going to say RTFM next? :-P04:24
nickrudepod, I've never used this, just repeating others04:24
hypnoDeterminist: if it says so then it is :)04:24
closuredell500, yeah man04:24
xiphoheh, woops, sorry, i forgot about rtfm04:24
hypnoDeterminist: you can see the files installed by it and go check manually if you feel like it04:25
Levanderhow is it that "nano" is the default editor on these command line programs under hoary?  like less and svn?  How do I change that?  My EDITOR variable isn't currently set.04:25
Deterministerm , alright , thanks04:25
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Deterministwhich mysql , or simply mysql did nothing04:25
Deterministi'll need the server and client , any good idea of what packages i need to have installed?04:26
hypnoLegendre: see /etc/alternatives/editor - it's a symlink04:26
hypnoLevander: even04:26
hypnobloody new xchat tab completion04:26
AzMoo[w] Hi guys. Is it possible to run windows programs that are already installed with wine, or do you need to install them under wine for registry keys and such?04:26
dell500what's the link to the unofficial ubuntu guide?04:27
Delphredemption: well, you're going to have to update things to use ALSA, if i remember right about Dmix04:27
dcravenLevander: update-alternatives --config editor04:27
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Januxhi, what's the command for showing the current CPU usage on each processor?04:27
Levanderhypno: /etc/alternatives/vi is linked to /usr/bin/vim04:27
hypnoDeterminist: mysql-server and mysql-client04:27
DeterministAzMoo[w] , possible to run once installed04:27
DeterministAzMoo[w] , you need not reinstall them under wine04:27
Delphit is scary alsa plugin, isn't it?04:27
AzMoo[w] Determinist, excellent, thanks :)04:27
Deterministhypno, thank you sir04:27
nopeagotta jet ppl.. cheers!04:27
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DeterministAzMoo[w] , welcome , time i find a way to help you back :)04:28
redemptiondelph: yeah, dmix sucks configuring.  Though I think you meant to be talking to epod.04:28
nickrudthis third person shit sucks04:28
AzMoo[w] Determinist, I thought I recognized your name ;)04:28
DeterministAzMoo[w] , php ;)04:28
Delphredemption: was replying to your TFM comment, in reply to my C code comment =:P04:28
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Levanderhypno: I ran that command you said.  Apparently the alternatives "editor" setting is stored somewhere else than in the link /etc/alternatives/vi.  Cause, it was set on nano.  I changed it to vi.  But, would like to know where that's set.04:28
Levanderhypno: nevermind, it's set in /etc/alternatives/editor04:29
Levanderhypno: thanks for you help getting that changed, was *major* annoyance for me that would come up occasionally.04:29
hypnoLevander: that's what i said :/04:29
dell500is raid already supported in ubuntu ?04:29
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redemptionDelph: gotcha.   alsa can really be a bitch to set up, even with hardware mixing.04:30
LevanderIn ~/.bashrc there's a PS1 setting that lets you set your prompt to a color.  I want to change the color, anybody know how?04:32
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nickrudLevander, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/04:33
Levanderhypno: sorry, must not have read so good04:33
Levandernickrud: checking out now, thanks04:33
epodnickrud, awesome, it's working.04:33
nickrudepod, thanks, know I know I can give out that link more often :)04:34
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xiphoi checked the man pages and the conf file and i still can't find where the directory for vsftp is, could someone help?04:34
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hypnoxipho: surely you specify the folder in the config file04:35
xiphohypno: in /etc/vsftpd.conf right?04:36
stevenjHas anyone had any success in transfering a file using Gaim (yahoo protocol)? I shows the transfer but never the other person if they want to receive it04:37
hypnoxipho: i don't know, i've never used it, but i'd assume so04:37
xiphohypno: thanks, the man page was kinda sparse04:38
doe34244help gettting NVIDIA drivers working!?  I get the message Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:38
bob2doe34244: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:38
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doe34244Ive installed the nvidia drivers via synaptic04:38
bob2did you do that yet?04:38
] BreliC[how do i force kill an process that just won't die?? kill pid just won't work04:38
doe34244kill -9 pid04:39
bob2that may or may not work04:39
bob2some processess are unkillable04:39
] BreliC[really?  an undead process??04:39
doe34244what if you strangle it to death?04:39
] BreliC[:)04:39
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hypnoyou need the exorcise command for that04:39
bob2it's a zombie04:39
guruffhello my ubuntu is damn slow; text scrollin yields 100% cpu; and everything related with text scroling showith text is sloow - would anyone be able to help me with that; what to change; what to do ?04:39
] BreliC[doe34244, thanks, the -9 did it..04:39
snw1972I had a system working with warty; in particular networking was working.  Now that I have upgraded to hoary it doesn't seem to work anymore.  i can ping the local interface but not anything else on the network.  Any ideas for what to try?04:40
doe34244so anybody know how to get my nvidia drivers working? I installed the package. now I get this when running glxinfo: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".04:40
bob2doe34244: dude04:40
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bob2doe34244: did you read that page or not?04:40
xiphohypno: thank you for your help, it's working now04:40
doe34244bob2: no04:40
hypnosnw1972: other than checking that the network settings are right? :)04:40
bob2doe34244: then go read it04:40
bob2doe34244: it explains everything you need to do04:40
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doe34244bob2: thanks04:41
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doe34244will do04:41
FeJaOrdoes anybody know what's the newest driver for an HP PSC 1210??04:41
g14FeJaOr: I'd be willing to bet your buddy google would04:41
snw1972hypno: I am pretty sure the network settings are right... but I have made dumb mistakes before.04:41
FeJaOrg14, there's 2 of them and don't know exactly which one is the "best"04:42
Deterministi think ubuntu 5.04 has to be the best OS for my laptop , this is not the case however for my P4 test server , gonna stay with Fedora on that , better administration abilities and less defaults.04:42
] BreliC[g14, lol04:43
snw1972hypno: I have it set up with static IP, 192.168.1.3/24.  Other machines at  192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 can ping each other, but not this box.04:43
JerubDeterminist: you would use fedora for a server?04:43
snw1972hypno: During install it claimed it couldn't find a DHCP server, but there is one of those as well.04:43
g14FeJaOr: ok thats better, send me the link to both and I will try to help you04:43
Jerub(someone would use ubuntu for a server?)04:43
DeterministJerub, a testing server , yes , it is far more friendly on the administrative side04:43
g14If you don't mind rpms, try CentOS 4 for a server04:43
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JerubDeterminist: any testing server should be 100% the same as the production server...04:44
brian_I uncommented the lines in sources.list to allow access to 'universe' in apt.  when I run apt-get update I get a GPG error : unkown error executing gpgv04:44
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g14A production server should undergo much more security testing and hardening04:44
Januxhi, does anyone know the command for showing the current processes with CPU usage like the one that you can see in M$ windows?04:44
bob2Janux: top04:45
Januxbob2, thanks a lot04:45
brian_Janux, or install gtop04:45
DeterministJerub, well , it is for personal use with php/mysql/apache , no critical data would be stored on it , at least for now04:45
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thechitowncubsHey04:45
hypnosnw1972: assuming your physical connection is ok and the driver for your card loaded ok you can set the dhcp etc options in the System menu ->Adminstration->Networking applet04:45
JerubDeterminist: but how can you test when you have different hardware and software?04:46
snw1972Hypno: I did a server install, I don't have any of the graphical stuff.04:46
hypnosnw1972: then edit /etc/network/interfaces04:46
DeterministJerub, well , i need to test the functionality of the code i write , not the platform. good code == portable code.04:47
Januxbob2, what program will run python at the background all the time in Ubuntu? it eats up 30% of my CPU usage all the time, is it X-Chat?04:47
snw1972Hypno: Ayup, that's what I have been doing.  As far as physical connections go, I at least see the lights blink on the hub.04:47
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bob2Janux: doubt it04:48
StryfeHello everyone.04:48
bob2Janux: find the pid in top, then use 'ps auxf' to see the tree of processes, so you can see who the parent is.04:48
Januxbob2, ic...thanks, let me try04:49
thundrcleezehi Stryfe04:49
Epix-lol. the sucidal persons first program: echo "goodbye world";04:49
TechLordwhat are some good games for linux04:49
Epix-TechLord, I like banner04:49
thundrcleezedepends on what you want, TechLord04:49
hypnosnw1972: that could be any traffic, though. sudo mii-tool will show the physical connection status04:49
Epix-TechLord, you have no clue how fun it is to put a laptop on its side and then banner fuck u and scrolll it04:49
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Cowlikequake 3 arena  :)  (not free, of course)04:49
thundrcleezefrozen bubble is addictive.04:50
dcravenenemy-territory is fun, although non-free again.04:50
xonI have a text file, whats the easiest way for me to find out how many times a specific word occurs in it?04:50
dcravenno-cost, but non-free.04:50
Januxbob2, how do you see that? it's pretty confusing04:50
Epix-Cowlike, how do you run q3 on linux?04:50
Epix-Cowlike, and.. where can i get it?04:50
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dcravenEpix-: id04:50
DelphEpix-: by using the native linux port... see id's site if it's not in a repository somewhere.04:51
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snw1972hypno: The network doesn't have a lot of traffic so it's reasonably reasonable to correlate.  I did the mii-tool thing, it says eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok.  That sounds like a good thing...04:51
dcravenEpix-: you can use your windows data files04:51
Epix-dcraven, coolio04:51
Januxbob2, omg...found it...the gdesklets is eating up my resources...04:51
Cowlikethere is a linux client but you need the files from windows04:51
Januxbob2, thank you so much04:51
thundrcleezeCowlike, can't you use files from the demo?  Or is that another game?04:51
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Cowlikejust search for "linux q3 arena" and you'll find the linux binaries04:51
Cowlikehmmm... the demo probably works too but you won't have many maps :)04:52
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dcravenenemy-territory is fun as hell.04:52
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hypnosnw1972: try ip route list to check that traffic for 192.168.1.0/24 is going through the right inteface04:52
snw1972hypno:04:53
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hypnosnw1972: or replace 'static' with 'dhcp' in the interfaces config file to try dhcp04:53
Cowlikeisn't there a linux version of America's Army too?04:54
thundrcleezeWhat is the way to change the default browser?04:54
thundrcleezeYes, Cowlike04:54
snw1972hypno: ip route list says: 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.304:54
snw1972default via 192.168.1.1 dev eth004:54
HrdwrBoBCowlike: yes04:54
joltcolaI'm creating a live cd of  ubuntu-5.04-live-amd64.iso  I just finished downloaded. And I've got a cd burning question, could someone help with that?04:54
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fightingfortofuwhy does firefox seem sluggish compared to when i used it in windows?04:55
hypnosnw1972: sounds alright, if 1.1 is your router. can you ping out to the internet from the server?04:55
Deterministwhat i wanna know is if the drivers for linux for the ati/nvidia fps busters are actually taking advantage of what the hardware has to offer?04:56
snw1972hypno: If I ping 192.168.1.1 I get "From 192.168.1.3 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable"04:56
snw1972hypno: I seem to get that if I try to ping anything else besides 192.168.1.3.04:57
Deterministsnw1972, no route , make sure you have a default gateway set up and if the nic is functional04:57
snw1972hypno: Yes, 1.1 is my router04:57
snw1972determinist: in my interfaces file I have gateway 192.168.1.1, shouldn't that set up my default gateway?04:58
LevanderOkay, thanks nickrud, I got the color of my bash prompt changed.04:58
LevanderNow, where is the LS_COLORS variable set in hoary.  Don't see it in ~/.bashrc or /etc/bash.bashrc04:58
Levander?04:58
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Deterministsnw1972, is your nic static IP or DHCP?04:58
flodinecan someone tell me why the soulmachine site not working04:58
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snw1972Determinist: static.04:58
joltcolacowlike: Are you trying to chat?04:59
Deterministsnw1972, any reason why you shouldnt use the router's dhcp?04:59
Mace68has anybody experienced terribly slow LAN trsnfer speeds in hoary?04:59
nickrudLevander, man dircolors04:59
Deterministsnw1972, that *should* give you the proper settings and set up a proper routing table04:59
flodineanyone using soulmachine in repsitory04:59
snw1972determinist: I tend to make my servers use static addresses.04:59
Levandernickrud: thanks again!04:59
flodinehello buntu folks05:00
Deterministsnw1972, hmm , so you're basically not capable of accessing ... what?05:00
nickrudLevander, I followed this path a while ago, it's a fun one :)05:00
flodinecan someone tell me why the soulmachine site not working05:00
snw1972determinist: I can't seem to access the network at all.  During install it said it couldn't find a DHCP server, although there should be one available.  It's like my packets are being eaten, except I see blinkenlights.05:01
Naliothflodine, what is soulmachine?05:01
Levandernickrud: i'm beginning to understand your taunt...05:01
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nickrudLevander, which one, I'm a known taunter :)05:01
Deterministsnw1972, does this happen with other machines on your network , or just this one?05:01
hypnosnw1972: hmm. Try and rule out any odd physical connection problems. Try mii-diag, ethtool, other cables.. strange things happen sometimes.05:02
Levanderabout dircolors being a "fun" path05:02
snw1972determininst: Things had worked with warty, when I upgraded to hoary it started doing this, so then I did a full install of hoary and it is still doing this.05:02
snw1972determinist: Yeah, all my other machines seem happy.05:02
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snw1972mii-diag reported things were ok.05:02
Deterministsnw1972, paste the contents of what route says in terminal05:03
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snw1972determinist: I should be so lucky as to be able to paste them, all would be well.  :)05:03
snw1972Determinist:05:03
Deterministsnw1972, that means what? cant you open a terminal , punch in the word route , press enter and do a copy paste? lol05:04
hypnoDeterminist: copy paste to what? the box can't get online05:04
Deterministohh , ohh05:04
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geneo93duh05:05
Deterministohh hush , it's 6 am , been up since 5 am yesterday :P05:05
Seqwell wireless in windows sucks. the card keeps resetting itself every three minutes or so05:05
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Deterministsnw1972, what's the contents of route ... without copy-pasting ...05:05
snw1972determinist:05:05
snw1972route -n05:05
snw1972Destination Gateway     Genmask Flags Metric Ref use Ifac05:05
snw1972192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0     255.255.255.0 U  0 0 0 eth005:05
snw19720.0.0.0     192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0       UG 0 0 0 eth005:05
Deterministseems to be right05:06
Deterministit's not a routing issue05:06
sonohey friends... does anyone knows how to trim a PS file with useless blank space around the content?  maybe a psutils thing or such05:07
snw1972Determinist: Well, y'all have to take my word on the addresses and stuff, but yeah the routing table seemed right to me as well.  I'm still hoping it's something stupid where I've transposed an IP address or something.05:07
Deterministi hope so lol05:08
Deterministotherwise you're dealing with fucked up wires , like hypno suggested05:08
nickrudthis is kinda off topic, but any observations why all the more recent softwart that's interesting (muine & beagle off the top of my head) is c#?05:08
hypnobecause its easier to write, i guess05:08
kg6gfqanyone know where to find the source (tgz format) for the amd64 ubuntu kernel?05:09
bob2kg6gfq: in the kernel-source package05:09
nickrudhypno, I stopped coding a long time ago, is it really easier?05:09
bob2sono: pscrop? gimp?05:09
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Marble2how can I setup mplayer to use the xine engine for sound output05:09
andrewskiMarble2: use xine-ui?05:09
bob2kg6gfq: but why?05:09
bob2Marble2: why do you want that?05:10
hypnonickrud: i havent used it, but its on a par with python afaik, which i do use. And yes, it's easier and faster (i felt)05:10
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andrewskihow can i tell samba to start on boot?05:10
bob2andrewski: it does already05:10
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sonothx bob2... I ll google for pscrop Thx so much05:10
snw1972determinist: I just replaced cable, same thing.  It would be a big coincidence if it was that, just last night I did the apt-get upgrade-dist, things were working ok then.05:10
hypnoMarble2: i dont think you can do that05:10
Marble2bob2: Well I wasn't getting sound in amarok or mplayer, but I configured amarok to use xine as the output, and it works now. So I want to get sound working in mplayer by doing the same05:10
andrewskibob2: hmm, not sure about that.  i just started it manually.  how can i check?05:10
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nickrudhypno, huh. miquel does something else right, I guess :)05:11
Marble2is xine-ui totem-xine?05:11
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bob2Marble2: you probably just want mplayer to use esd for output05:11
nickrudmiquel*05:11
bob2andrewski: by default it starts on boot05:11
andrewskiMarble2: totem is a frontend for xine.05:11
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Marble2esd as output gives no sound05:11
bob2andrewski: if you didn't change it, it will be05:11
Marble2well totem has sound05:11
Deterministsnw1972, would try removing the NIC and reinstalling it ... perhaps it's a driver issue of some sort05:11
hypnoMarble2: mplayer has excellent sound support of its own, but if you are using a package version it depends on how it was compiled05:11
Marble2but I just thought it'd be nice to have mplayer sound working05:11
bob2"xine output" doesn't mean anything in particular05:11
andrewskibob2: yes, but perhaps i did?  how do i check whether or not it's configured to?05:11
bob2you need to find out what xine is doing05:11
bob2andrewski: ls /etc/rc.2/S*samba05:11
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snw1972determinist: You suggested ethtool; how do I use that?05:12
andrewskibob2: yeah, it's not there.05:12
bob2andrewski: you can use update-rc.d to restore it05:12
bob2or just ln05:12
Deterministsnw1972, actually , hypno did , i've never used ethtools , but supposedly they should diagnose ethernet problems05:12
hypnosudo ethtool eth0 will give you some info05:13
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fightingfortofuim trying to install ut2k4 and the install has a prompt for the second cd but im unable to eject media, device is busy05:13
breadhi05:13
Dethreadfightingfortofu, unmount it first05:13
breadhey05:13
fightingfortofudethread, how do you unmount? i am rigth clicking the cd on the desktop and selecting eject05:14
breaddo u wanna chat05:14
Dethreadfightingfortofu, in a terminal, type "sudo umount /dev/cdrom"05:14
hypnofightingfortofu: lsof /dev/cdrom to find out what is using it. If a program has a mounted file open, you can't unmount it.05:14
Mace68anybody know why my samba transfer speeds are slow as mud? I've getting files from 2 different machines via samba and it's the same on both... slow.05:15
bob2bread: this isn't a general chat channel05:15
] BreliC[fightingfortofu, hmm... i had the same problem with UT2004 and there's a website somewhere describing the right way to install it (at least the pain-free way)05:15
fightingfortofu] BreliC[, remember the url by chance?05:15
andrewskibob2: "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/rc2.d/K09samba is not a link to ../init.d/samba"05:15
andrewskibob2: am i doing it wrong?05:16
fightingfortofualso, thanks everyone!05:16
snw1972hypno: I did the sudo ethtool eth0; down at the bottom it implies it thinks the link is ok.05:16
bob2andrewski: erm05:16
bob2andrewski: what is it a link to then?05:16
] BreliC[fightingfortofu, no, that was last year05:16
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andrewskibob2: i don't know; i was just doing 'update-rc.d samba defaults'05:17
stuNNedbob2: you down under at teh fest?05:17
snw1972hypno, determinist: I think I'm going to have to sleep on this one and come back tomorrow.  Thanks for the help from both of you!05:17
hypnosnw1972: no problem05:18
Deterministsnw1972, most welcome mate , sorry it didnt work out tho :)05:18
bob2andrewski: 'ls -l /etc/rc2.d/K09samba' prints what?05:18
bob2stuNNed: yes05:18
bob2where fest = work05:18
andrewskibob2: /etc/rc2.d/K09samba -> /samba05:19
bob2blah05:19
snw1972Maybe I'll go back to warty and see if the network comes back.  If it does seem to be tied to the OS version; what would I do next?05:19
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bob2you've been cracked for very sloppy05:19
hypnosnw1972: do you know what driver your net card uses?05:19
stuNNedbob2: awesome, wish i was there05:20
snw1972hypno: I have no idea.  How would I find out?05:20
bob2andrewski: delete that link05:20
hypnosnw1972: dmesg | grep eth0 might show it05:20
kg6gfq_srry, didn't see if there was an answer to my question about where to find tgz's for the ubuntu amd64 kernel05:21
andrewskibob2: ah, ok.  now it worked.05:21
bob2kg6gfq_: ...05:21
bob2kg6gfq_: in the kernel-source package05:21
bob2kg6gfq_: but why?05:21
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kg6gfq_need them to compile wifi drivers05:21
andrewskibob2: and i could replace samba with any service i wanted to add to boot?05:21
bob2kg6gfq_: no, you don't.  what driver are you trying to compile?05:22
bob2andrewski: well, yes, except that anything you install will be setup to start on boot automatically05:22
kg6gfq_rt250005:22
andrewskibob2: well, i had edited one to be a different service and couldn't figure out how to switch to that one.  but i got it now, thanks. :)05:22
thundrcleezeHow do I change the default web browser?  Konqueror shows up, and I want it to be firefox when I click a link.05:23
bob2kg6gfq_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo05:23
hypnothundrcleeze: kde apps will default to konqueror. You can probably use kcontrol to change it05:24
kg6gfq_thanks05:24
thundrcleezeXchat isn't a kde app, is it?05:24
andrewskithundrcleeze: no, konversation is.05:24
dell500iv'e got a raid array, but i'm not sure how to mount it05:24
snw1972hypno: Wow that has a lot of things go by.  lots of things like e100: eth0: transmit timed out05:25
thundrcleezeyes, but I'm not running kde right now, I'm running gnome.05:25
hypnosnw1972: sounds cable like to me05:25
snw1972hypno: Both cables?05:25
andrewskithundrcleeze: preferred applications in the gnome control center?05:25
hypnoboth?05:25
snw1972hypno: Awhile back I switched cables.05:26
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thundrcleezeandrewski, it's set to firefox.05:26
guruffquestion about hotplug daemon: it starts in rcS and then is killed? or is running somewhere in the background all the time ?05:26
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andrewskithundrcleeze: which app are you running that starts konq?05:26
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bob2guruff: the kernel calls it when things happen05:27
bob2guruff: don't mess with it, basically05:27
thundrcleezeandrewski: right now?  Xchat.05:27
andrewskithundrcleeze: xchat has its own configuration for web browser launching.05:27
hypnosnw1972: only thing i've seen to cause that is a low level hardware problem of some sort. Unlikely to be a config or driver issue.05:27
andrewskithundrcleeze: any others?05:27
guruffbob2; when what happens? every n seconds to check if there is no device connected; or when external int is rised?05:27
snw1972hypno: I'll try warty tomorrow and see what happens. Thanks again!05:28
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bob2guruff: when the kernel decides something has been hotpluged. I guess the usb controller raises an interupt, or the pcihp controller, or whatever05:28
RRubinhrm is there a trick to getting flash sounds to work?05:28
thundrcleezeandrewski: Yes, I've found it in settings -> advanced.05:28
nickrudthundrcleeze, andrewski the way to control what browser is loaded is to update-alternatives --config x-www-browser05:28
guruffhmmm... ok05:28
guruffbob2; thx05:28
andrewskinickrud: yes, but when is that actually used?05:29
nickrudwhen someting calls debian-sensible-browser05:29
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andrewskinickrud: yes, but what does? :P05:29
dell500does anyone here know how to mount an exisiting raid0 array into ubuntu??05:29
thundrcleezeandrewski, xchat does05:29
andrewskithundrcleeze: hmm.05:30
bob2dell500: you need to give way more details05:30
nickrudandrewski, /etc/alternatives is a means for controlling what the default program for various functions05:30
bob2dell500: do you mean "Does anyone know how to mount an existing linux software raid-0 array?"?05:30
thundrcleezeandrewski, it supports most browsers, but the default "Open in web browser" calls that.05:30
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andrewskinickrud: user-specific or system-wide?05:30
nickrudsystem-wide05:31
andrewskinickrud: yeah, that's not so good....05:31
thechitowncubsare there any decent games that can be played over LAN05:31
thechitowncubsnone that are too intensive though05:31
nickrudandrewski, that can be true if more than one use the system05:32
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dell500bob2, yessum :)05:32
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dell500i need to find what dev it's on and then i think i can modify /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf05:32
nomasteryodabob2, et al UBUNTU ROCKS suse's socks off05:32
thechitowncubslol05:32
nickrudif only one uses the system, it gives you a means of controlling what is run, wherever you are05:32
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sagarais there someone who knows a lot about using matching patterns with grep here?05:32
nomasteryodai thought the new suse 9.3 was going to be slick... well it sx05:32
thechitowncubsAny games good over LAN?05:32
nomasteryodabzflag05:33
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nomasteryodaEnemy Territory05:33
nomasteryodafree*05:33
thechitowncubsi don't think my sister's comp can handle that05:33
nickrudandrewski, and it's nearly always the reason the program you expect to run is not run.05:33
thechitowncubsspecs are only 500mhz05:33
nomasteryodalol05:33
thechitowncubs=(05:33
nomasteryodakbattleship05:33
nomasteryodait is low end network game05:34
nomasteryodakinda fun too05:34
nomasteryodawith sounds on both ends05:34
WWsagara: That depends on what you mean by "a lot".  Ask your question and you'll find out :)05:34
thechitowncubssweet05:34
thechitowncubsthanks05:34
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aldugoccy: I had to compile it, I couldn't find a package anywhere05:34
thechitowncubsah crap, kde05:34
sagarawell here is my issue05:35
sagarai have a line that looks like this05:35
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sagara06:59:41.953943 blah blah blah05:35
tjshow do you do a for loop in a deb rules file?05:36
sagarathe time (06:59:41) changes in every file i work with... what i want to do is basically string tokenize that guy and extrat the time (in that case it would be 06:59:41)05:36
tjsits run with make I believe05:36
sagaraall of this in Cshell05:36
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thechitowncubsKDE needs to cut down on all the bloat05:37
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hypnosagara: grep is better at getting whole lines. For your job i'd use cut05:38
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tjsthechitowncubs: have you written a linux desktop? or even a WM? people who say stuff like that rarely have contributed anything themselves05:38
chavothechitowncubs, haven't used KDE in a while, have you?05:38
hypnosagara: something like cut -d "." -f 105:38
thechitowncubstjs: actually i made linux =P05:38
sagaralet me look into that command05:39
tjshahaha05:39
RRubinthechitowncubs: there are millions of minimalistic wms. try googleing for ios05:39
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tjsion3 is a good minimalistic 'wm'05:39
chillywillyhey people anyone ever get this with marillat's mplayer: mplayer: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.0: undefined symbol: NeAACDecOpen ?05:39
RRubinion, thats what i ment05:39
thechitowncubsRRubin: I like Gnome05:40
thechitowncubsclean and efficient05:40
dell500so does anyone know how to mount an already existing linux raid array??05:40
thechitowncubsit could be a tad faster though05:40
Fanglezanyone in Oz order ubuntu cd's know how long they take to get here?05:40
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RRubinthechitowncubs: ubuntu gnome is ok.05:40
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thechitowncubsRRubin: I love gnome and ubuntu05:41
tjsFanglez: I ordered some warty ones back when they first came out. they took about 3 weeks to arrive, i ordered some hoary ones about a week ago and they have not arrived yet. Im in hobart05:41
sagarahypno: ^_^ awesome!!! thanks a lot hypno, you just saved me a lot of work trying to get grep to work05:41
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hypnosagara: no prob05:41
FanglezI'm in Melbourne and drooling. The latest live image worked so well I want to badger others into it05:41
sagarahypno can i pm you?05:42
hypnosure05:42
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RRubinthechitowncubs: on other distros, kde's value is that 'everything just works', without ubuntu gnome can suck05:48
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cens0redaside from openoffice-writer, and kword, there's another quite good OS word processor. What's its name again?05:54
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jsubl2abiword05:54
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incsup channel05:54
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cens0redjsubl2 thanx that's the one!05:54
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incanyone have prob with apps crashing in hoary?05:55
FeJaOrcan anybody help me on uninstall a 3rd party program??05:56
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FeJaOrI got problems installing a software for my PSC 1210 and now I have bunch of errors and stuff05:56
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incFeJaOr, how you install it?05:56
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FeJaOrinc, I was following the instructions but something went wrong that didn't let me to finish the installation05:57
FeJaOrinc, and now I don't have the software properly installed and a bunch of errors05:57
incFeJaOr, kinda low on the details05:58
incyou use deb or compile?05:58
incwhat kind of software05:58
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hornblowerhey all05:58
FeJaOrinc, compile....a software for my printer (HP PSC 1210)05:59
dell500does anyone know how to mount an already existing linux raid array??05:59
inccan't recompile?06:00
hornbloweri'm getting error 21 on boot with grub, and lilo won't install at all... i've read up and found that this is because of cmos settings in bios, but I thought maybe someone here might know if it could be caused by something else before I start altering bios settings?06:00
hornblowerI got no floppies, or i'd just make a boot disk and forget the loader alltogether...06:00
FeJaOrinc, I downloaded the latest driver and software from the webpage but got errors when compiling it and now Im on the middle of the installation and can't go any further and can't go back either06:00
FeJaOrinc, and now I can't delete either the program or the folder with all the installation files06:02
FeJaOrHELPPPP06:04
|QuaD-FeJaOr: HELPPP06:04
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closurei have a question06:05
Jerubhow do I get ubuntu to run a command after login?06:05
dell500raid? anyone!? does anyone know??!06:05
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FeJaOr|QuaD-, I have this problem06:06
FeJaOr|QuaD-, I got problems installing a software for my PSC 1210 and now I have bunch of errors and stuff06:06
FeJaOr|QuaD-, I downloaded the latest driver and software from the webpage but got errors when compiling it and now Im on the middle of the installation and can't go any further and can't go back either06:06
FeJaOr|QuaD-, and now I can't delete either the program or the folder with all the installation files06:06
|QuaD-FeJaOr: oh. interesting06:07
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juezhi06:07
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juezanyone there?06:07
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juez???06:08
|QuaD-i am06:08
nickrudjuez, yeah, just sleepy ;)06:08
juezi need help getting a linksys WUSBG54 running06:08
juezi installed ndiswrapper06:08
FeJaOr|QuaD-, can you help me out with this problem??06:09
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juezbut i cant make ndiswrapper to get the drivers :S06:09
|QuaD-FeJaOr: no06:09
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NaliothFeJaOr, are you familiar with linux?06:09
juezjuez@Oscar:~$ sudo  ndiswrapper -i /home/juez/desktop/wusb54g.cat06:09
juezInstalling wusb54g.cat06:09
juezcp: no se puede efectuar `stat' sobre /home/juez/desktop/wusb54g.cat: No existe el fichero o el directorio06:09
FeJaOrNalioth, so so06:09
FeJaOrNalioth, why??06:10
juezanyone can help me?06:10
hypnojuez: try Desktop ..?06:10
dell500does anyone know how to mount an already existing linux raid array??06:11
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HrdwrBoBdell500: the same way you mounted it before06:12
nickrudhypno, juez and here i thought the language would be a problem, & it's the captialization :)06:12
HrdwrBoBwith mdadm06:12
juezi tried with Desktop06:12
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juezbut still the same problem :S06:13
moonikerdoes anyone know a good tutorial for seting up network interfaces? i'm a relative newbie and the man pages are too complicated for me.06:13
juezjuez@Oscar:~$ sudo  ndiswrapper -l06:13
juezInstalled ndis drivers:06:13
juezwusb54g invalid driver!06:13
pimaniacndiswrapper should be run on an .inf file06:13
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juezyes06:14
juezlook06:14
pimaniacmooniker:  if it works when you plug into a mac or windows box, type "sudo dhclient"06:14
juezjuez@Oscar:~$ sudo  ndiswrapper -i /home/juez/Desktop/wusb54g.inf06:14
juezInstalling wusb54g06:14
juezcp: no se puede efectuar `stat' sobre /home/juez/Desktop/wusb54g.inf: No existe el fichero o el directorio06:14
juezjuez@Oscar:~$ sudo  ndiswrapper -l06:14
juezInstalled ndis drivers:06:14
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juezwusb54g invalid driver!06:14
RRubinjuez: is the driver from the ndiswrapper 'known working list' ?06:14
drcodedd2Hi all06:14
drcodedd2how I can put script to run after ubuntu boot?06:14
moonikerdhclient...06:14
juezyes it is in the working list06:14
RRubinjuez: and you got it from where it says?06:15
AMDi've got a question, i'm a n00b and am trying to get totem movie player to run, but everytime i try to start it, and error message comes up06:15
juezndiswrapper or the driver?06:15
RRubinjuez: the driver06:15
juezform the lynksis page, from the link that appears on the list of supported cards by ndiswrapper06:15
nickrudAMD, and the error is .....06:15
RRubinjuez: hrm. maybe you should try version 1.106:16
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AMDResource busy or unavailable06:16
RRubinjuez: i had to compile it when ubuntu's version didnt work for me06:16
juezof ndiswrapper? i got it from: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper -utils06:16
juezthat downloaded the latest version, no?06:16
nickrudAMD, what does lsof | grep /dev/dsp say?06:17
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AMDnickrud: type that in terminal?06:17
nickrudAMD, yes06:17
RRubinjuez: no. i found some debian from source instructions on their site that worked for me to get 1.106:17
mierdaalguien habla espaol ?06:17
juezthen how i do that?06:17
juezyo :D06:17
mierda:D06:18
mierdame puede ayudar ?06:18
pimaniacenough to be offended by the nick :-p06:18
juezjajjajajaja06:18
RRubinjuez: get ndiswrapper-source_1.1-1_i386.deb06:18
juezde q? yo no c mucho06:18
NaliothFeJaOr, what problems are u experienceing?06:18
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juezwith apt?06:18
AMDnickrud: esd       6737    buulian    5w      CHR       14,3               6640 /dev/dsp06:18
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dell500HrdwrBoB, well the last time i did it, i edited the mdraid file, but that's not there anymore06:18
RRubinjuez: no, i forget but i think i d/l'd it from someones site06:19
HrdwrBoBtry /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf iirc06:19
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dell500HrdwrBoB, if i edit that, and then mount the /dev/md0, would that work??06:19
juezok i got that file06:19
jueznow what should i do?06:19
HrdwrBoBif you edit that06:19
HrdwrBoBand then run the correct mdadm command06:20
HrdwrBoBit should work06:20
HrdwrBoBlook up some documentation on google06:20
juezRRubin: ?06:20
RRubinjuez: install it, it should show up in /usr/src06:20
juez:s how do i install it? :(06:20
mierdaalguien que hable espaol me ayude ?06:20
dell500HrdwrBoB, i found a REALLY difficult way to do it with the kernal pkg, but it has to be supported already06:20
RRubinjuez: look for the step by step on there wiki06:20
pimaniacmierda: si.  un poco06:20
nickrudAMD, I hate to do this, but ... it's late here, and i have to bail. I was hoping it was a quick fix, and i'm sorry.06:20
juez:S it has 2 tar.gz06:20
AMDno worries06:21
juezand a debian bynari06:21
RRubinjuez: you untar it and go into the dir and run like, debian/rules modules06:21
RRubinsomethin like that06:21
mierdapimaniac  lo que pasa es quecambie la pantalla de inicio del ununtu y no me cargo entonces no me carga el escritorio :S06:21
nickrudAMD, I'll be around again tomorrow, if i can help with anything, just ask, and i'll try06:21
AMDok06:21
RRubinit unpacks in /usr/src/modules/ndiswrapper/06:21
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juezi dont understand nothing :D:D:D:D06:21
AMDi'm just having nothing but troubles with linux programs06:21
juezanything06:21
RRubinjuez: your gonna have to find the directions on the site. i did it 2 weeks ago06:22
juezon what site?06:22
RRubinndiswrappers site. use google man.06:22
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RRubinjuez: if you just want it to work and dont care how, you can have my binary .debs tho it would be silly of you to trust them06:23
pimaniacmierda: hay un error?06:23
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mierdapimaniac  seee06:23
mierdaesto me sale06:23
AMDwhy can't i run .bin files06:24
AMDthey just won't run06:24
juezi know ;)06:24
RRubinamd: chmod u+x file.bin ?06:24
AMDoh06:24
AMDand then what?06:24
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RRubinamd: ./file.bin06:24
pimaniacmierda.  lo ciento.  mi espanol es muy malo.  que?06:24
AMDok06:24
NaliothAMD execute them06:24
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mierdapimaniac /usr/share/gdm/themes/bluecurve/rh_logo_header.png es te fichero o directorio no esxiste06:25
pimaniacah06:25
pimaniacok06:25
mierdacomo lo puedo cambiar de alguna forma ?06:25
NaliothAMD you can write a text file, and with chmod turn it into an executable (cant be done on windoze)06:25
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juezubuntu doesnt let me modify the apt sources list06:26
EnterDhttp://nutsack.com/06:26
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juezhow do i change it?06:26
Naliothjuez sure it does06:26
RRubinjuez: you can change it from06:26
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pimaniacmierda: puede tecleo derecho en el escritorio?06:26
phenotype_anyone know of problems with laptop batteries06:26
juezit opnes it like a read only file06:26
RRubinsynaptic06:26
RRubinare you using sudo?06:26
Naliothjuez you have to sudo your text editor06:26
pimaniacphenotype:  it cant detect my charge in gnome, just kde :)06:26
mierdapimaniac  esque estoy en consola06:26
juez??'06:26
phenotype_kde detects it?06:27
juezhow?06:27
phenotype_im using gnome06:27
AMDthank you so much rrubin06:27
RRubinamd: no prob06:27
hypnomierda: puedes cambiar el theme de la pantalla de inicio en /etc/gdm/gdm.conf Busca a "GraphicalTheme"06:27
juezhow do i sudo the text editor?06:27
phenotype_pimaniac, gnome problems with battery?06:27
mierdaokis06:27
pimaniachypno: gracias.  no lo se.06:27
mierdagracias06:27
mierdathanks06:28
pimaniacphenotype: not serious, just not able to see charge06:28
juez??? :(06:28
phenotype_yea06:28
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pimaniacjuez:  sudo nano06:28
phenotype_but kde detects it ok?06:28
pimaniacjuez: will open nano with root priveleges06:28
pimaniacphenotype:  yep yep.  not ubuntu specific, just gnome-battery doesnt like me06:29
juezhmmm ok...06:29
phenotype_interesting06:29
phenotype_thx06:29
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FeJaOrcan anybody help me on uninstalling the software program I downloaded and tried to install from the HP website??06:30
LevanderWhat's the easy way to get gnome to remember the size that I like my gnome-terminals to open up as?  Is the best bet still .Xresources?06:30
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juezhow do i save changes?06:31
NaliothFeJaOr, what exactly happened?06:31
pimaniacjuez: Ctrl X will exit, it will ask to save changes06:31
juezk06:31
FeJaOrNalioth, I downloaded the most recent driver/software for my HP PSC 1210 from the website06:31
Naliothjuez, nano is self-explanatory  the litte "^" at the bottom stands for the <ctrl> key06:32
NaliothFeJaOr, what did it do to make you come here?06:32
FeJaOrNalioth, I followed the instructions on how to install the software and now im up to the point I have the "software installed" but can't oppened cause it marks an error and I can't delete the folder with the original installation file either06:32
NaliothFeJaOr, how have you tried to del?06:33
FeJaOrNalioth, and I don't want to reinstall ubuntu just because of that06:33
AMDrrubin: i've installed the program, however the permission to read is not available06:33
juezok06:33
juezfuck06:33
juezim tired06:34
juezi just wont get the wireless card run :S06:34
juezbye and thx for ur help :)06:34
Naliothjuez linux is rewarding, if you give it a little patience06:34
FeJaOrNalioth, I have the folder in the desktop and move it to the trash ..... when I tried to empty the trash, bunch of errors come up06:34
juezits impossible to get my usb card to work :S06:35
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NaliothFeJaOr, i take it u want to del the folder? if so, move it back onto the desktop...06:35
FeJaOrjuez, don't worry....I haven't got my fax modem work yet06:35
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juezhahahahah ok ;) but u got internet :S06:35
FeJaOrNalioth, done06:35
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FeJaOrthat's right :)06:35
juezi dont want to throw cables, i want wireless06:35
AMDRRubin: how do you change the permissions if you aren't the owner?06:35
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juezbye06:36
gp_aaron|win2kdoes this distro use default debian repos?06:37
Jerubgp_aaron|win2k: no06:37
gp_aaron|win2kcan it use them?06:37
|QuaD-gp_aaron|win2k: why would you want to06:37
Amaranthgp_aaron|win2k: I wouldn't.06:38
sandyeggoboyhi there everyone ...06:38
Amaranthgp_aaron|win2k: What do you need from Debian that Ubuntu doesn't have?06:38
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gp_aaron|win2kcan you use synaptic with the ubuntu repos?06:38
sandyeggoboyI am having a problem with my dell 1501FP LCD monitor not going past 800x600 resolution .. i need it to go to 1024x768. I have tried to "dpkg-reconfiguire xserver-xorg" but then it says it cannot display this screen size. What else can i try?06:39
AmaranthYeah, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager06:39
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gp_aaron|win2knice06:39
dell500yes!!!06:39
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gp_aaron|win2khow are the repos?06:40
gp_aaron|win2kreliable?06:40
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bob2for main, of course06:40
bob2for universe, it depends06:40
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gp_aaron|win2kwhat are those?06:40
AMDcan anyone direct me in how to change file permissions? I am not the owner though06:40
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bob2AMD: is it your machine?06:41
bob2gp_aaron|win2k: main is the supported part of ubuntu, universe is the unsupported part that's mostly identical to stuff in debian06:41
AMDbob2: as far as performance, or the name?06:41
AMDbob2: sorry n00b06:41
bob2AMD: ?06:41
gp_aaron|win2kbob2, oh thanks06:41
bob2AMD: Do you own the computer you're trying to change the permissions on?06:41
AMDyes, just not the file06:42
gp_aaron|win2kdoes it have alot of the choices in the repos?06:42
RRubinamd: use sudo06:42
AMDit is set to where the permissions are all messed up, by the owner, no one can read it06:42
gp_aaron|win2khow does it compare to standard debian repos?06:42
dell500after doing assembling a raid array (mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sda /dev/sdb) what's next?06:42
RRubingp_aaron|win2k: most of deb stuff is available06:43
bob2AMD: sudo chown a+r /filename06:43
bob2gp_aaron|win2k: universe has basically everything from debian06:43
gp_aaron|win2koh06:43
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gp_aaron|win2kdoes apache come default?06:43
bob2of course not06:43
phenotype_anyone know where i can get bin of kde06:44
bob2nothing listens on external ports by default06:44
AmaranthNo open ports on the default install.06:44
AMDbob2: chown: 'a+r': invalid user06:44
revelateri need help getting through a windows password screen without any additional software06:44
bob2but apache2 is supported06:44
bob2AMD: er, chmod, not chown, sorry06:44
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dell500YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:44
bob2phenotype_: #kubuntu06:44
AMDno worries06:44
Amaranthrevelater: windows password screen?06:44
phenotype_thx06:44
bob2revelater: this is not a cracking channel, sorry06:44
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AmaranthOh, get through it.06:44
revelatercould yuo *cough* point the way *cough*06:44
bob2revelater: no06:45
AmaranthActually, that isn't even possible unless you can boot from CD or floppy.06:45
bob2revelater: do not ask again06:45
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AmaranthIf you can, go find it yourself.06:45
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cens0redanyone know where evolution stores its attachments? I've just received three emails with like 7 attachments each ... I don't want to go through the process of selecting "Save As" for each one.06:45
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Naliothrevelator why do you want into windoze?06:45
Naliothrevelater, let the SOB stay locked06:46
AMDbob2: it still wont let me execute it, none of the little boxes are high lighted06:46
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revelaterSOB?06:46
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AMDthe permission says 777 but none of the permission boxes are filled06:47
Naliothwindoze IMO SUCKS!06:47
RRubinamd: boxes?06:47
Naliothrevelater, let it stay locked, ther's nothing good inside06:47
revelateri see, well its for a friend, his parents locked him out of his computer06:47
AMDthe option thing under the preferences06:47
Naliothrevelater, nothing but horror06:47
bob2AMD: what sort of file is it?06:47
revelaterand there is internet access06:47
AMD.bin06:47
revelaterwhats life without pron?06:47
AMDit won't allow execution06:47
bob2AMD: er06:48
Naliothso use a knoppix or ubnuntu live cd06:48
bob2AMD: what is the file, really?06:48
revelater(a whole lot better no doubt)06:48
Nalioththe parents will never know (s)he was surfing pR0n06:48
dell500how do i diagnose sound problems??06:48
AMDrealplayer.bin06:48
dell500is there an app??06:48
AMDit's Real Player 1006:48
RRubinAMD: its in your home dir?06:48
revelaterNalioth: problem is he needs it now, and has no way of getting extra software06:48
AMDyeah06:48
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RRubinAMD: ls -l realplayer.bin06:49
netfighterHello people06:49
AMDthe main thing is that I'm not the "owner" of the file06:49
RRubinamd: paste the results06:49
AMDi'll try06:49
Naliothrevelater, he's screwed. take him to your house06:49
breadhey06:49
revelaterNalioth: lol06:49
gp_aaron|win2krevelater, sam file hacking06:49
netfighterIf I add the unofficial repositories (such as Marillat & Universe), I can break my Ubuntu distro, right?06:49
gp_aaron|win2kbut I'm not gona tell you how to do that06:49
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breaddo what06:49
revelatergp_aaron|win2k: can you tell me where i need to go to learn how to do that???06:50
bob2netfighter: yes06:50
AMDbob2: -rwxrwxrwx  1 501 501 570312 2005-04-01 16:52 realplay.bin06:50
bob2netfighter: well, universe is unlikely to06:50
gp_aaron|win2kgoogle06:50
bob2AMD: blah06:50
Naliothrevelater, he just told you all you need to know06:50
AMDyeah?06:50
bob2AMD: you need to find out what the file actually is and what you're supposed to do with it06:50
AMDit is the program itself06:50
bob2it really came with NO instructions at all?06:50
bob2AMD: what does 'file realplay.bin' say?06:50
netfighterbob2 so how can I add just a specific pkg from those repos without updating everything? Like, is there a way to do it from the Cmd line?06:51
RRubinAMD: how'd you get it?06:51
RRubinit seems to be owned by someone who doesnt exist06:51
bob2netfighter: just put them in your sources.list, install whatever, then remove it06:51
AMDi installed it, from another .bin and everything went fine untill i tried to run it06:51
bob214:50:57           bob2 | AMD: what does 'file realplay.bin' say?06:51
netfighterbob2,  thanks06:51
RRubinAMD: man chown06:52
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AMDbob2: realplay.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped06:52
bob2lord06:52
bob2AMD: what filesystem have you put it on?06:52
bob2it seems broken06:52
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RRubinAMD: you need to (using sudo) change the owner and group to yourself06:53
abbot45is PAN the best newsreader for linux?06:53
Naliothrevelator, this will teach you to never leave the house w/o a knoppix disk06:53
bob2abbot45: "best" is subjective06:53
Naliothabbot45 are there other newsreaders for linux?06:53
bob2abbot45: it is pretty popular, tho06:53
abbot45haha.  i guess.06:53
breadcan anybody tell me how to update gaim?06:53
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AMDbob2: ok, how do you change the owner and group to myself using sudo?06:53
bob2Nalioth: slrn06:54
abbot45ive been using it for a bit.  but can you use it to post binaries???06:54
gp_aaron|win2kbread, apt-get update06:54
RRubinamd: man chown06:54
abbot45or do you need something else for that?06:54
bob2AMD: sudo chown you:you filename06:54
bob2abbot45: what sort of binaries do you want to post?06:54
Naliothbob2 is that easy to read?06:55
bob2Nalioth: do you use mutt?06:55
Naliothbob2 does it d/l mutlipart pR0n, er, helpful binaries?06:55
bob2lord06:55
Naliothbob2 the only mutt in my life, is sitting at my feet right now06:55
breadgp_aaron, having a little trouble06:55
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breadi ran that command from terminal and i got unable to lock06:56
abbot45bob2: a dj mix of mine.  id like to cut it up into rars first though, and all that.06:56
bob2ignore that06:56
bob2abbot45: oh man06:56
bob2abbot45: please don't use rar06:56
bob2there's enough pointless rar's in the world already06:56
AMDok, i did that and and it doesn't work06:56
abbot45everyone on usenet does everything in rar.06:57
bob2that's stupid06:57
bob2AMD: "doesn't work" in what sense06:57
AMDi'm still not the owner06:57
bob2AMD: you didn't answer my question before06:57
bob2AMD: what filesystem is this on?06:57
Tomcat_rar is better than zip though... if you leave Free Software thoughts aside. :o06:57
breadcan somebody tell me how to update gaim?06:57
bob2it seems rather screwed up06:57
AMDit does06:57
bob2bread: why and to what version?06:58
AMDi'll try something else06:58
abbot45what else can you use to cut a large media file into smaller pieces for transfer, then put back together on the other end?06:58
bread1.2.106:58
breadmore features06:58
bob2abbot45: split06:58
bob2bread: e.g.?06:58
AMDbut when you said "you:you" do you mean my user name?06:58
Naliothbob2 when you get a free minute, i'd like to know more about your experience with slrn06:58
zenroxabbot45,  zip06:58
smoucheis that rar utility package mentioned in ubuntuguide.org -- um, how shall i put it, legal?06:58
breadbob2, i am not familiar with that06:58
zerokarmaleftabbot45, jigdo06:59
breadi have ubuntu 5.0406:59
bob2AMD: yes...06:59
smoucheor is it a unsanctioned clone or something?06:59
bob2AMD: again, what file system is it on?06:59
breadbob2, r u there?06:59
AMDext306:59
bob2bread: Why do you want 1.2?06:59
breadit's the new version06:59
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abbot45zerokarmaleft: what is jigdo?07:00
breadi have 1.1.407:00
qqnluaqhi all...07:00
breadfor bob07:00
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bob2smouche: there are two versions.  one, a completely Free one that works with older rar formats.  then there's unrar-nonfree which is nonfree but supports modern formats better.07:00
bob2bread: yes, but *why*?  you want it just because it's new?07:00
AMDbob2: oh wait, i don't have permissions for the folder! maybe that's why it wont work07:00
breadmost of all07:00
Naliothbob2 don't forget that 7zip handles rars nowadays and is completely free07:00
bob2AMD: dude, if someone asks you to run a command, you need to tell us if it gives you an error07:00
AMDsorry, i'm a newbie07:01
AMDto linux07:01
zerokarmaleftabbot45, jigsaw download: http://atterer.net/jigdo/07:01
transgresswow you'd think people would deem certain things important... like billing receipts...07:01
bob2Nalioth: didn't know that07:01
breadbob2, i also need to get familiar with installing programs07:01
AMDand i'm not getting errors07:01
transgressbut nope07:01
bob2Nalioth: if you don't know what mutt is, slrn isn't something you're going to like07:01
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breadbob2, i am a ubuntu novice07:01
bob2AMD: just copy the file to a different permission07:01
smouchethanks for the info bob207:01
bob2bread: I can see that :)07:01
AMDi'm going to07:01
Naliothbob2 i like my command line, but not too much for irc, email, etc07:01
bob2AMD: er, partition07:01
zerokarmaleftabbot45, primarily for distributing CD/DVD images, but can be used for any file format...especially large files such as uncompressed audio07:01
breadbob2, ur great07:02
qqnluaqcan anyone help me with an install problem?07:02
abbot45ah07:02
Naliothbob2 havent gotten too cozy with learning new keystrokes07:02
phenotype_anyone know if i can simply rotate a firefox image (being used as desktop image)  or should i edit it with an image editor07:02
breadqqnluaq, shoot07:02
WammyHow is the support for Linksys wireless cards?07:02
bob2bread: if you don't have a huge reason to get it, I'd just use the version of gaim in hoary07:02
qqnluaqi cant get ubuntu or kubuntu to install.. the prev version installed fine..07:02
bob2bread: getting a newer one requires going to breezy, which is a bad idea07:02
bob2Wammy: depends on the chipset07:02
breadi want to have the popup option like msn07:02
Wammybob2: how do i find it?07:02
qqnluaqboth of the latest installers crap out, complaining they cant find a volume07:03
zerokarmaleftabbot45, http://atterer.net/jigdo/07:03
zerokarmaleftabbot45, oops already gave you that link07:03
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breadthen, how could i install mplayer?07:03
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bob2bread: have you installed the gaim-guifications package?07:03
abbot45haha.  yeah.07:03
breadnope07:03
bob2bread: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:03
stevenjdoes anyone here use hoary backports?07:03
smouchebread, in #ubuntu this evening, a couple of people compiled the new version of gaim for themselves...07:03
bob2please don't use the backports07:03
breadinstalling thins are very difficult when you leave windows07:03
bob2they're broken and terrible07:03
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abbot45bread: that restrictedformats guide is great07:04
smoucheI can post the log of that chat if you want07:04
stevenjI have'nt yet07:04
bob2bread: no, it's very easy...you select what you want from synaptic, and click "install"07:04
smouchein another channel of course07:04
stevenjjust reading about then07:04
stazichhey anyone knows how to toggle between channels in BitchX?07:04
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breadbob2, ur the best so far07:05
stevenjonly reason I mentioned backports is that firefox has secuirty fixes and gaim is suppose to fix file transfer (somewhat)07:05
bob2stevenj: the security issues will be fixed in the version of firefox in hoary07:06
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stazichls07:06
shad0w1ehow do i add a new user from the console???07:06
stevenjbob2, ok...I do without updated gaim..I am more concerned with FF really...thanks07:06
transgressadduser07:07
bob2stevenj: with the 'adduser' command07:07
Mace68anybody know why my samba file transfer speeds are slow as mud? I've getting files from 2 different machines via samba and it's the same on both. I'm running on a 100baseT network.07:07
breadbob2: where's synaptic07:07
shad0w1eum thanks07:07
abbot45ive got a problem with my icons.  i put the sets in ~/.icons like they are suppost to be, and they show up in my theme manager list that i can choose from, but when i choose them nothing changes.  any ideas what could be wrong?07:07
transgresssudo adduser07:07
Mace68FTP seems ok07:07
bob2bread: system -> administration menu07:07
drcodedd2I have 2 qustions07:07
shad0w1ethanks guys, worked great07:07
stevenjbob2, when official hoary updates FF- is it best to uninstall first or install over the existing FF07:07
transgresswb abbot4507:07
abbot45yo07:08
drcodedd21. Where I can put my Dynamic DNS script so after I boot ubuntu it will update my dynamic dns?07:08
bob2stevenj: you just let apt or synaptic upgrade it as usual07:08
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drcodedd22. I have new hdb that I put / how can I format it into ext307:08
bob2drcodedd2: 1) install ddclient and configure it07:08
zerokarmaleftdrcodedd2, bootmisc.sh?07:08
stevenjbob2, ok...because I used the (Linux) firefox "bug" form fix :) just wondering if that will screw it up07:08
Seveasdrcodedd2, 1) add the command to execute it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh07:08
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Seveas2) man mkfs07:08
abbot45damn.  im gonna have to ask on a forum probably.07:08
drcodedd2thanx07:09
drcodedd2thanx alot07:09
drcodedd2I will check it07:09
bob2drcodedd2: use 'mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb', but be very very careful07:09
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drcodedd2work like a charm07:09
Mace68is there a place in samba that limits the network transfer speed?07:10
bob2no07:10
Mace68what else could cause such slow transfers just under samba, FTP seems to be ok07:11
breadbob2: gaim isn't on that menu07:12
bob2bread: you already have gaim installed07:12
breadbob2: neither is mplayer07:12
breadyah07:12
bob2so what are you asking?07:12
breadwhat's breezy?07:12
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breadu said don't use it for some reason07:13
abbot45i think im gonna do away with windows on my notebook again and try to get ndiswrapper to work.  3rd times a charm.07:13
lamont_rbread: breezy is broken07:13
Mace68I've tried transfers via samba from both windows and linux boxes to my laptop with the same result.07:13
venkmanyo momma breezy07:13
abbot45haha07:13
lamont_rit currently has new versions of lots of stuff, and old versions of lots of other stuff (that need to be merged)...07:13
lamont_rbreezy is 5.1007:13
bob2bread: breezy is the development release of ubuntu that's very unstable at the moment07:13
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lamont_ror will be07:13
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Naliothbreezy users are likened to white lab rats at this time.....beyond the bleeding edge07:13
breadk07:13
transgressheh07:14
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breadbob2: there's several packages, but can't seem to find mplayer07:14
breaddo I need to go and dl the package?07:14
lamont_rbread: add multiverse to your sources.list07:14
bob2bread: you need to read the page I told you about07:14
stevenjI know this is going to sound stupid--in Xchat there is little bar on bottom right corner...actually two bar....the top one changes sometimes---what is it?07:14
lamont_rbob2: ah, even better07:15
bob2transgress: no, it's more hardcore than that07:15
transgressbob2: really?  interesting.07:15
breadlamont: wheres that located07:15
transgressbob2: gcc 4.0 in it?07:15
breadbob2: getting right on it07:15
bob2transgress: yes07:15
venkmanbob2: I want to be HARDCORE!07:15
transgressbob2: that is pretty fucking hardcore07:15
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lamont_rbread: on the page bob2 pointed you at07:15
transgressvenkman: you want a broken machine07:16
breadlamont: ur kind of clever as well, how long have you been using linux07:16
Naliothstevenj,  thats your lag meter07:16
venkmantransgress: i want an ubuntu package that just does... rm -rf /07:16
breadlamont: clever @ linux at least07:16
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lamont_rtransgress: it's like this... if the package was changed wrt debian in hoary,then there's a very good chance it hasn't been uploaded yet (merge required).  If it wasn't changed, then the new version is there...07:16
lamont_r==> broken07:16
transgressvenkman: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda bs=1mb is better venkman07:17
transgressno one run that07:17
transgressplease07:17
transgressi don't need someone pissed at me because they are dumb07:17
lamont_rbread: been using unix for a great number of years, linux for about 8.07:17
venkmantransgress :)07:17
breadr u like an older guy07:17
stevenjNalioth, usually I can hardly see...it spiked one time...so thanks...I was just wondering07:17
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lamont_rgot bored with writing I/O drivers for kernels back in 1990 or so....07:17
breadi wasn't born long before 199007:18
venkmanwow07:18
venkmani feel old07:18
syn1how do i set my cdrom to set DMA on upon boot?07:18
stevenjI grad HS in 9107:18
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lamont_rvenkman: that happens around here... :-(07:18
syndhow do i set my cdrom to set DMA on upon boot?07:19
venkmansyn, make sure you have a good hdparm script?07:19
syndvenkman: how so?07:19
breadstevenJ: you graduated a long time ago07:19
stevenjit seems so07:19
venkmanuh07:19
breadyep07:19
venkmanvi /etc/hdparm.conf07:19
venkmani graduated hs in 2k.07:20
breadis Butchman a good name?07:20
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venkmanhaha07:20
syndi grad in 2k407:20
breadbread crook graduated in 9807:21
venkmanbread that sounds like.... bitch and butch.07:21
breadhmmm07:21
breadnot following u07:21
breadon that07:21
venkmanthink lesbians07:21
breadlol, great07:21
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breadbutches are sick07:22
breadbut who cares about that07:22
lamont_ris off topic here07:22
closuredoes anyone know how to execute bitchx-gtk07:22
breadnope07:22
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mcrawforyo07:23
breadlamont_r: glad that you came back07:23
mcrawforanyone here use a transmeta processor?07:23
venkmanthere's a gtked version of bitchx?07:23
Kangahi all07:23
closurevenkman07:23
closurelook in your pkgs07:23
closurebitchx-gtk07:23
mcrawforunder warty, my processor scaled with powernowd, but it won't under hoary07:23
Mace68could someone be so kind as to at least point me in the right direction? I'm stumped, my XP installation crashed today so I installed Ubuntu. I really don't want to go back to XP but I need fast lan transfer speeds.07:23
Kangaanyone know where i can d/l instructions for partitioning a drive with ubunu?07:23
Kangai installed ubuntu but it used up the whole drive for the insatallation'07:24
NaliothKanga, in a terminal type "man cfdisk"07:25
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Kanganalioth:is that under accesories?07:25
Kangavery new to ubuntu!07:25
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NaliothKanga i guess, i have mine on my upper taskbar and my kubuntu taskbar, too (when i'm in that)07:26
Naliothok time for bed07:27
Kanganalioth yeah07:27
Naliothy'all be good07:27
Kangaiv just got up07:27
Nalioth(or look sweet and innocent)07:27
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Kangac u07:27
raydogghow do i make an onboard sound device use the alsa drivers ?07:27
Kangaanyone know where i can d/l instructions for partitioning a drive with ubunu?07:27
raydoggkanga, use cfdisk07:27
Mace68Is my irc client broke? Can anyone see my messages?07:28
bob2no, it's not broken07:28
Kangain a terminal07:28
Kanga?07:28
raydoggkanga, yes07:28
bob2Mace68: ask in a more approriate place, like #samba07:28
Kanga?07:28
raydogghow do i make an onboard sound device use the alsa drivers ?07:28
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Kangaraydogg: where can i get a online manual for ubuntu] 07:29
bob2raydogg: you don't need to keep repeating07:29
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raydoggSorry bob07:29
Kangahi chris07:30
Mace68bob2: thanks, i'll try that. Sorry to have pestered you all, I'm fairly new to linux07:30
bob2Mace68: no problem07:31
Kangame too07:31
LevanderKanga: try ubuntuguide.org07:31
Kangaty levandaer07:31
Kangabbl07:31
breadbob2: should I add universe as well as multiverse07:32
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bob2bread: depends what you want to do...might as well07:32
breadk07:32
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arkainiumhow can I change the default sound card in a system with multiple sound cards?07:33
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breadbob2: it says can't load all repositories07:33
Levanderbread: how many repositories you got in there?07:34
breadtwo07:34
breaduni and multi07:34
thechitowncubsWhat is everyones favorite application for *nix?07:34
Levanderwhat says it can't load all repositories?  which command?07:34
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dwsnewbie question: for a fresh hoary install, how do i get an sshd? (and where should i have looked first for an answer?)07:34
scott__hello07:34
Levanderdws "sudo apt-get install openssh-server", not sure of package name, "apt-cache search ssh" to find out.  Install the server, the client will come with it.07:35
Levanderthat was all I had to do to get it here07:35
breadlevander: cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] /dists/hoary/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs07:35
breadd07:35
dwsLevander: thanks07:35
Levanderdws: could have tried ubuntuguide.org for that one07:35
bob2arkainium: you can't, easily...the simplest is to blacklist everything but the one you want to be default07:35
bob2bread: tell it to not use the cd then07:36
breadhow so07:36
bob2no idea, I don't use synaptic07:36
breadbob2: what do you use?07:36
Levanderbread: put your sources.list on pastebin.com, i'll look at it, see if I can find something07:37
breadi'll try07:37
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Levanderit's not hard, just pull it up, is self explanatory07:37
Levanderpull up the URL**07:37
breadwhere's source list located?07:38
bob2bread: aptitude07:38
bob2Levander: that's not going to help07:39
breadaptitude?07:39
bob2Levander: we know what the problem is07:39
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Levanderokay, have at it bob207:39
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bob2the problem is that you don't have the cd in the drive07:39
breadk07:39
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raydogghow do i add the universe repository via command line ?07:40
bob2you edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually07:41
abarbaccianano /etc/apt/souces.list07:41
raydoggk07:41
raydoggthx07:41
abarbacciauncomment the lines of code07:41
abarbacciathen apt-get update07:41
breadbob2: i put the disk in and it does the same thing07:41
arkainiumbob2, i tried setting the aliases for snd-card-n, etc, but it does nothing.  how can I blacklist?07:41
bob2arkainium: /etc/hotplug/blacklist07:41
arkainiumbob2, thanks07:41
breadbob2: ur familiar with windows aren't cha07:42
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venkmani despise hotplug.07:43
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breadlevander: is there a way to install programs from GUI?07:44
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Levanderbread: i know synaptic does, but I use apt-get on the command-line07:45
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raydogghow can I search like synaptic does ?07:46
raydoggvia cmd line07:46
Levanderapt-cache search <search string>07:46
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breadlevander: what comes after apt-get?07:46
raydoggthx07:46
Airoman apt-get07:46
breadlevander: u also mean from terminal, right07:47
Levanderbread: there are lots of options after apt-get, have to read the man page07:47
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breadlemme see07:47
Levanderbread:yeah, inside terminal, from command line, same thing07:48
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vincentAnybody get captive working in Hoary?07:49
maewhats the new ubuntu way for dealing with java in hoary?07:49
jack|his there a torrent for the ubuntu 5.04 image?07:49
vincent(I actually dist-upgraded to Breezy, but I imagine so far it would work for both)07:49
breadlevander: i read the page07:49
breadlevander: i some what understand it07:49
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Levandermae: ubuntuguide.org says that kind of stuff07:50
Levanderbread: okay07:50
jack|hnevermind, found it07:50
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breadlevander: I have gtk+, so could you tell me how the command line would look if i were trying to install07:50
breador could it be done from gui07:50
vincentAnybody?  Captive-ntfs in hoary/breezy?  I get an error when I do sudo /usr/share/lufs/prepmod07:51
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breadlevander: r u there?07:52
venkmanshit i need some pepto07:52
venkmanthat's gonna kill my drugs.07:52
Levanderbread: gtk+ is a library07:52
breadyeah07:52
Levanderbread: don't install it directly07:52
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bob2bread: no, I haven't used windows in years07:53
breadokay07:53
bob2bread: why do you want to install gtk?07:53
Levanderbread: when you install an application that needs it, it'll be installed for you07:53
vincentNOBODY in here has captive-ntfs working with hoary/breezy?  I get an error with premod07:53
vincentprepmod07:53
breadi was trying to install mplayer07:53
bob2bread: (you already have it installed, btw)07:53
breadand it says i need it07:53
bob2bread: dude, just read the wiki page07:53
Levandervincent: no, sorry, never even heard of captive07:53
bob2vincent: try their user list or something, I guess07:53
bob2vincent: or the ubuntu user list07:53
breadi did07:53
Netsnipecould someone send me a screenshot of the ubuntu wireless configure tool?07:53
Levanderbread: ubuntuguide.org - make sure you read the one for hoary, version 5.0407:54
Levanderbread: it says how to install mplayer07:54
bob2bread: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:54
bob2bread: where on there does it tell you to care about gtk?07:54
Levanderbread: in the old version, warty, you used to have to install those libraries manually, not anymore07:54
vincentOkay then, thanks :)07:54
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vincentLevander: BTW, captive-ntfs is a module that allows Linux to write to NTFS partitions07:55
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Levandervincent: okay, thanks vincent07:55
bob2it's a module that lets linux load the Windows NT NTFS kernel module, more or less07:55
wbeck85but is ntfs writing in linux safe?07:55
kkamranihellow07:55
vincentLevander: I had it working on Fedora Core, but there's less support for it in Ubuntu/debian in general.  Apparently.07:55
thechitowncubsIs there any way to search in Beep-Media-Player07:56
bob2wbeck85: with captive-ntfs, you're more or less letting windows write to the disk, not linux07:56
bob2thechitowncubs: j?07:56
vincentwbeck85: Yeah, with captive NTFS it's fine07:56
wbeck85oh07:56
Levandervincent: yeah, I don't need it here, I use samba to talk between the systems over a LAN07:56
wbeck85interesting07:56
wbeck85cool07:56
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thechitowncubsj?07:56
Kangahi all seems a bit silly to put an ubuntu guide in a file format thats is not recognised by windows as people who need the guide will not be using ubuntu as their main o/s07:56
bob2thechitowncubs: the j key...07:56
vincentLevander:  The only reason I really want it is because Anarchy Online needs write access, so it doesn't work under Wine07:56
bob2Kanga: talk to whoever wrote it07:57
thechitowncubsoh wow07:57
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Kangata bob dont u agree07:57
Levandervincent: okay, cool07:57
vincentAnyway thanks all07:57
vincentadios07:57
bob2if IE really doesn't handle xhtml, then that is just funny07:57
maeLevander: thats the sloppy manual way, how is ubuntu managing java with apt? . warty had dummy packages . . .07:57
thechitowncubsbob2: wow, that really makes a difference!07:57
thechitowncubswow07:57
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Levandermae: ubuntuguide's the best advice for stuff like that I've found.  I'm installing java next week and I'll do it their way07:58
bob2thechitowncubs: hrm?07:58
thechitowncubshrm?07:58
thechitowncubsyou're losing me07:58
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Levandermae: I think there's some problem with the java licenses and debian licenses, so ubuntu doesn't want to put it in their repositories07:58
ReleaseXhello all07:59
maeLevander: heh.. this guide is pretty sloppy..07:59
Levanderunfortunately may have to go outside of apt-get for this one07:59
Levandermae: it's helped me a lot...07:59
maeLevander: That's good, but you can install java without having to leave it unmanaged.. there are dummy packages in warty.. one only need enable the warty repository and grab the dummy packages from it08:00
maethats what i did08:00
thechitowncubsbob2: what do you mean by hrm?08:00
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maebut.. i thought they would have some clean way to implement it without having to do "hackish" things like that :)08:00
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breadlevander: i marked it for installation, but got an error08:00
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TheKarkwow, i just set this up in gaim08:01
bodaciousbcan anyone help me get XMMS working on 5.04?08:01
thechitowncubsDoes anyone use amaroK in gnome?08:01
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Levandermae: i looked at the java stuff in hoary, you know it does look like they've got some stuff in there, but from what I vaguely remember, there are some free JVM's who's performance isn't up to snuff08:02
Levandermae: which java package did you have in warty?08:02
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Levanderbread: you marked what for installation?08:02
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breadall the stuff that was added after this:deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main08:03
Levanderbread: only install stuff as you need it.  Don't just install everything.08:04
breadi tried to install acid ripper and it wouldn't bulge08:04
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Levandermerillat isn't a ubuntu repository, it's for a similar distribution, but not ubuntu, their are going to be problems with it08:05
breadlevander: i still don't seem mplayer on the list that i installed08:05
Levanderbread: how old r u?08:06
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maeLevander: I have sun-j2sdk1.5 installed r1 .. Used the warty and another 3rd party repository08:07
bob2bread: don't add that line08:07
Levandermae: yeah, i try not to use 3rd party repositories08:07
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breadlevander: 2208:09
Levanderbread: okay, was just wondering08:09
maeLevander: well you can build your own .deb from the JAVA bin directly from suns site.. with the deb building tool.. but thats a pain :)08:09
bodaciousbHow do i find an "acceptable" C compiler that can be found in $PATH08:09
Levanderwhat r u using to try to install these?08:09
breadterminal08:09
Levanderbodaciousb: "which gcc" from command line08:09
bodaciousbthat didnt do anything, just made a new line08:10
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Levanderbodaciousb: there some package called "build-essentials" or something like that that has all the stuff that you need for a development environment or to build stuff08:10
tjsIm trying to figure out if there will be a package containing the fuse kernel module in ubuntu ?08:10
Levanderbodaciousb: "apt-cache search essential" to find it08:11
bodaciousbok08:11
tjsthere is fuse-source and fuse-utils, which both recomend fuse-module08:11
Levanderbodaciousb: "apt-cache show <package-name>" to make sure you found it.08:11
tjsbut fuse-module doesnt exist08:11
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Levanderbread: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer08:11
bodaciousbfound it08:12
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Levanderbodaciousb: what's the name?08:12
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bodaciousbbrb, sorry08:12
bodaciousbbuild-essential08:14
bodaciousbi had to get the phone, sorry =)08:14
bodaciousbpool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_10.1ubuntu1_i386.deb08:14
bodaciousbthats the long filename08:14
bezibaerchenmorning08:14
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yfirquick question about gdm: anyone know which file i edit to change the order of listed sessions gdm login screen? i can't seem to find it08:16
Levanderbodaciousb: yeah, that's it, if you install that, you get a full development environment08:16
cikilinhello08:16
bodaciousbhow do i install that?08:16
Levanderbodaciousb: "apt-cache show build-essential" to read the description08:17
bodaciousbok08:17
Levanderbodaciousb: uninstall what?08:17
bodaciousbi dont need to uninstall anything08:17
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Levanderbodaciousb: same way u install everything "sudo apt-get install <package-name>"08:17
breadlevander: it says unable to lock the adminstration directory08:17
Levanderbodaciousb: package-name is build-essential in this case08:17
bodaciousbok08:18
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Levanderbread: you have to sudo apt-get commands08:18
Levanderbread: so that you have "root" privileges08:18
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breadoh yeah08:18
Levanderbread: if you don't know what root is, you probably need to read a tutorial or two "Introduction to UNIX" or something like that08:18
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bodaciousbyay, progress on my instalation of xmms08:19
breadi know what root is08:19
breadsame as root terminal08:19
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Levanderbread: okay good08:19
breadlevander: it says another process is using what I am trying to use08:20
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Levanderbread: do you have synaptic open? if so, you gotta close that if you're gonna do command line08:20
jinxhi08:20
breadgood looking08:20
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Levanderbodaciousb: how are you trying to install xmms?  Are you not "sudo apt-get install xmms"?08:21
bodaciousbno, i downloaded it off of the xmms website08:21
bodaciousbwill that work?08:21
maewhat package contains the commandline tool "alsasink"?08:21
bodaciousbmuch easier hehe08:22
breadlevander: this was my last line-E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead08:22
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Levandermae: I don't think it's in the ubuntu repositories, "Search the contents of packages" section of packages.ubuntu.com08:22
bodaciousbit even makes the shortcut hehehe, thanks lev08:23
FeJaOrhow can I erase icons from the system, applications menu??08:23
Levanderbread: you've got invalid entries in /etc/apt/sources.list08:23
yaira little question: how can I download gcc using synaptic package manager? I mean what files from the list would be enough?08:23
maeok :)08:23
FeJaOrhow can I erase icons from the system, applications menu??08:23
pablo928can any one tell me what do i have to add to /etc/fstab so that i can write to /dev/hda1?                                    http://www.pastebin.com/27652308:23
Levanderbread: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories08:24
Levanderbodaciousb: if you would have "sudo apt-get install xmms", it'd already be done08:24
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breadk08:24
FeJaOranyones?08:24
bodaciousbYeah lev, i did it... that was cool =)08:25
Levanderyair: install the "build-essentials" package08:25
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jinxAmaranth: is there an new version of gnome-menu-editor?08:26
jinx:)08:26
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FeJaOranyones?08:27
FeJaOrhow can I erase icons from the system, applications menu??08:27
bodaciousbHow do i go about installing a .run file? americas army08:27
bob2yair: install build-essential08:27
Levanderbodaciousb: okay, sorry, i'm trying to play catch up in here08:27
bob2FeJaOr: you can't, easily08:27
bob2bodaciousb: it has no instructions?08:27
FeJaOrjust tell me the root08:27
bodaciousbits ok =)08:27
FeJaOrI can't remember what the root is08:27
jinx``bodaciousb: sh ruznfile.run08:27
breadlevander: this is kind of frustrating08:27
Levanderjinx: apt-get --simulate install gnome-menu-editor?08:27
bodaciousbok08:27
breadlevander: not too much, but it is08:27
LevanderFeJaOr: sorry, dunno08:28
breadlevander: windows is so much easier08:28
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FeJaOrbob2, just tell me what the root to the icons is cause I don't remember exactly the root08:28
GNAMaauauauau08:28
GNAMi've destroyed gnomebar on the bottom08:28
bob2FeJaOr: no idea, sorry08:28
GNAMi don't see panels of opened programs, and desktop08:28
jinx``Levander: i don't think it's in the repositorys yet08:28
SeamusLPFeja0r:  You can use menu-editor to modify the application's menu.08:28
LevanderFeJaOr: try this, in nautilus, in the location bar, "applications:///"08:28
bob2bread: what are you confused by?08:28
GNAMi only see trash icon08:28
GNAMi've no idea why08:28
GNAMho can i recover?08:29
Levanderbread: yeah, learning new things always frustrating08:29
GNAMhow08:29
Levanderbread: try learning one thing at a time08:29
Levanderbread: you have a purpose for using Linux?08:29
bodaciousbJinx``: what is Sh? its doing its thing now08:29
golii have ubuntu installed on an acer travelmate 2308NLCi ... the speaker icon is showing on the top panel...when i use hot keys to mute/increase/decrease sound the speaker icons responds appropriately...but i cannot hear anything...how do i test if my soundcard works08:29
breadyep08:29
breadi can do the same thing in windows, linux seems to have better security08:30
jinx``just "shell"08:30
FeJaOrLevander, didn't work08:30
bodaciousbim trying to get away from windows08:30
breadlevander: u know how to code i python?08:30
woodwizzleAre there any other linux browsers that use KHTML besides konqueror? preferably one in gtk?08:30
pablo928bob2, would you check http://www.pastebin.com/276523 and tell me what i need to modify to write to /dev/hda1?08:30
Levanderbread: yeah, i know python08:30
jinx``so it runs he .run file08:30
breadthat is what i mainly want to use linux for08:30
GNAMhelp me! I see only trash icon on gnome bottom panel08:30
jinx``with ist you can run .run and .sh files08:30
breadi know it can be used in windows, but I want to know linux as well as windows08:31
FeJaOrLevander, I just don't remeber what the path is in order to get to those files08:31
SeamusLPGNAM:  You accidentally delete stuff?08:31
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breadwouldn't think I was a network administrator, heh08:31
Levanderbread: i think learning linux and ubuntu is a good thing, especially if you like computers in general, but you can program in python on Windows08:31
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GNAMNo08:31
GNAMno, SeamusLP08:31
LevanderFeJaOr: in nautilus, try opening the location "applications:///"08:31
GNAMi'm sure08:32
FeJaOrLevander, that's what I did but didn't work08:32
breadwell, there's several things I want to use linux for: servers amongst other things08:32
SeamusLPGNAM:  Try this.  Load up a terminal, type in "killall gnome-panel"08:32
breadlevander: how old r u?08:32
Levanderbread: yeah, servers linux is great for, and they're all free08:32
Levander3108:32
SeamusLPGNAM:  It may just be acting up a little and need a restart.  You may also want to submit a bug report to gnome08:32
GNAMkillall gnome-panel08:32
coobrai like my new ubuntu :)08:32
GNAMpanel restart only with trash icon08:32
Levanderokay, i'm logging into my ubuntu box, i be back08:32
GNAMdoesn't work08:32
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breadu've been using linux/unix since the 80s huh08:33
GNAMbut i've no idea on what's happened :P08:33
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SeamusLPGNAM:  That's really weird...  Alright looks like you'll have to readd everything manually08:33
breadlevander: normally u have to download programs b4 u install08:33
GNAMausaua08:33
Sunnehcan anyone tell me why my mounted drive is not in my Places menu anymore since a reboot?08:34
breadi am just running these commands and not even sure if they're on my system yet08:34
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GNAMcan i try to Reinstall a gnome component?08:34
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bodaciousbanyone know where i can find the "applications" folder, that is my start menu button thingy08:34
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somnambulantdeadi am having a problem with something that should be incredibly easy08:34
SeamusLPSunneh:  I had that problem.  Try restarting dbus-1.  sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart08:34
SunnehSeamusLP - I did that last night and it worked. Do i have to keep doing that to get it to stick?08:35
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pablo928bodaciousb: top left gnome panel08:35
somnambulantdeadi can't get a windeco to install... meanwhile i can get mtaskbar and all other kinds of stuff installed fine08:35
SeamusLPSunneh:  It's an odd issue, not everyone has it.  I believe messing with the boot order will fix it.08:35
venkmanSunneh oops i did it again.08:35
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bodaciousbpablo928: how do i add shortcuts into it?08:36
bodaciousbpablo928: ahh nevermind i got it =)08:36
SeamusLPSunneh:  However I don't mind so much, I've been up since hoary was installed the day it came out ;)08:36
pablo928bodaciousb:what kind of shortcuts?08:36
Sunnehlol08:36
pablo928bodaciousb:08:37
bodaciousbpablo928: im going to add a shortcut to my music folder on my wifes windows machine08:37
SunnehSeamusLP: any idea on how/what to edit in the boot order?08:37
SeamusLPGNAM:  Just right click on the panel and add your workstation switcher.  Then add your window list.  Then add the show desktop button.  Then file a bug report with gnome ;)08:37
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yairthank you, bob2 and Levander, gcc seem to be working08:38
SeamusLPSunneh:  that's been something I've meant to look into in ubuntu.  Try looking up debian runlevel editing.08:38
GNAMauaua08:38
GNAMi've just made that08:38
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GNAMit works :P08:38
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SunnehSeamusLP: Thanks very much. :D08:38
somnambulantdeaddoes anyone have the .deb for crystal-0.9.2?08:38
SeamusLPSunneh:  If you manage to find a solution...  Let me know ;)08:39
thechitowncubshow long does it take to compile kdelibs?08:39
Sunnehlol Sure08:39
SunnehAnyway, thanks for you help once more.08:40
Sunnehttyl08:40
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dazzedwhats everyone up to on this fine evening08:40
thechitowncubsAnd, if i want to install kubuntu and ubuntu, how do i seperate my menus?08:41
thechitowncubsso all the kde crap doesn't flow into the gnome menues...08:41
SeamusLPsomnambulantdead:  If you can find an rpm you can convert it with alien -d08:42
breadlevander: where did you go?08:42
breadbob2: r u on?08:42
breaddazzed: r u a guru or a novice?08:42
SeamusLPthechitowncubs:  I like to use seperate user accounts08:42
dazzedbread: no guru but no novice either...i know my fair share08:43
jinx``dazzed? evening? it's 8:43am here08:43
jinx``:P08:43
dazzed243 here08:43
somnambulantdeadSeamusLP: the only thing i can manage to download is source which won't properly install08:43
coobrawhats the esyest way to add aterm ?08:43
thechitowncubsSeamusLP: hmm, ok08:43
SeamusLPsomnambulantdead:  Are there unresolved dependencies?08:43
breadneed help installing something08:43
dazzedi know enough to know that my nieghboors need to move their wireless hub closer to the window so i can gett a better conn08:43
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SeamusLPthechitowncubs:  This may seem like a bad solution...  However some symlinks and a couple chmods in the home directory will make it very, very seamless ;)08:43
bodaciousbi have the stupidest question you have ever been asked..... i just installed americas army, the file "Armyops" i belive is the executeable, it has an icon with a brown diamond and it says SH on it..... how do i run that file?08:44
thechitowncubsWhich is easier?08:44
bodaciousbjust run in terminal?08:44
dazzedbodaciousb: ./file08:44
somnambulantdeadi get weird errors... it enters the directory, decides there is nothing to do in there, and exits08:44
SeamusLPIs there a makefile in the directory?08:44
bodaciousbSweetness, it runs!... ok how do i make a shortcut to it for my applications bar08:45
thechitowncubsi created a new user, but how do i install kde under that user and not the one i am now?08:45
somnambulantdeadyeah08:45
dazzedi dont use gnome couldnt tell ya08:45
dazzedbread: did you have a problem?08:45
SeamusLPthechitowncubs:  Hmm you know now that I think about it that might not work... unless you can install kde to the new home directory08:46
somnambulantdeadconfigure works fine... finally got all the depends for that08:47
SeamusLPthechitowncubs:  Are you sure that installing kde will put all of the kde icons in your gnome menu?08:47
breaddazzed: yes08:47
dazzedthechitowncubs: you on ubu or kubuntu?08:47
thechitowncubsUbuntu08:47
dazzedbread: whats up?08:47
SeamusLPsomnambulantdead:  Could you pm me the exact error message when you try a make?08:47
dazzedthechitowncubs: so you installed kubuntu-desktop package?08:47
pablo928dazzed:could you check http://www.pastebin.com/276523 and tell me how i can write to /dev/hda1, please?08:47
breadtrying to intall a couple of programs08:47
thechitowncubsthats what im planning on doing08:47
thechitowncubsbut last time it crapped up all my gnome menus08:47
dazzedbread:  like?08:47
breadmplayer and gaim08:48
breadcdrecord also08:48
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breadi want to burn cds08:48
dazzedbread: ur ubuntu didnt come with gaim?08:48
dazzedbread: and get k3b (its the best)08:48
somnambulantdeadwell i get this08:48
somnambulantdeadmake[2] : Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.08:48
dazzedfor burning08:48
somnambulantdeadnot really an error08:48
breaddazzed: well, the newer version08:49
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dazzedpablo928: let me find the thing you have to add08:49
breaddazzed: i am not familiar with k3b08:49
somnambulantdeadmake[2] : Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'.08:49
thechitowncubsdazzed, any ideas of how to seperate the two menus?08:49
SeamusLPsomnambulantdead:  Hmmm, try sudo make install maybe?08:49
yfiranyone know which file to edit to change the order of sessions listed on the gdm login screen? i can't seem to find it anywhere08:49
dazzedpablo928: you have to chmod it to certain permissions08:49
somnambulantdeadthat is what i have done08:49
dazzedthechitowncubs: for gnome?08:49
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venkmanyfir you tried the manpage?08:49
dazzedbread: k3b is like nero more or less if your framilliar with nero...its universal cd burning software...(cant get better)08:49
thechitowncubsdazzed: i just want to make sure kde doesn't put its icons in my gnome menu08:50
yfirvenkman: yeah08:50
SeamusLPsomnambulantdead:  Have you compiled the program first?  it's ./configure, then make, then sudo make install08:50
breadwhere do i obtain it from?08:50
dazzedbread: since your trying to get newest version of gaim i take it your compiling08:50
venkmandoes gaim have an autopackage?08:50
pablo928dazzed dev/hda1 used to be ntfs, yesterday i reformatted to ext308:50
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somnambulantdeadyes08:50
somnambulantdeadi have08:50
dazzedthechitowncubs: well i dont use kde or gnome so i dont know specifics lol ...to my knowledge i dont think it will08:50
breadif i knew how08:50
thechitowncubsi tried it once, and it did08:51
dazzedpablo928: you still need to chmod permissions to write...08:51
somnambulantdeadmultiple times... the other steps run fine... just make install get all fuxored08:51
thechitowncubswhat are you using dazzed?08:51
bob2bread: look for k3b in synaptic08:51
XTCboarderthis ain't a linux question but if somebody knows i'll apreciate it... can you load ur iPod with other thing than the iTunes soft or it's clone for other plataforms? meaning can you just plug it as a hard drive and drag thing into it?08:51
dazzedpablo928: add this to your mount command '-o umask=002 0 008:51
SeamusLPsomnambulantdead:  Might be possible to go ahead and run the program...  If you do a make it may make a directory somewhere that you can go into and run some executable08:51
dazzed';08:51
bob2XTCboarder: no08:52
venkmani burn my CDs using paper matches and a magnifine glass.08:52
bob2XTCboarder: complain to apple08:52
bodaciousbAmerica's army runs beautifully on my machine woohoo, my first real Linux game08:52
somnambulantdeadnot a program... just a windeco08:52
breadbob2 okay08:52
SeamusLPsomnambulantdead:  That would at least be a temporary solution08:52
SeamusLPah I see08:52
somnambulantdeadwhich is why it is so confusing... because programs seem to compile fine08:52
pablo928dazzed, thanks i'll give it a try08:52
dazzedbread: so your "trying" to compile08:52
dazzedbread: first you need to apt-get build-essential;08:52
XTCboarderbob2 only using that shit?08:52
XTCboarderhaha good,08:53
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XTCboarderi'm making a school job08:53
breaddazzed: where do i get that08:53
breadbob2: it isn't there08:53
SeamusLPsomnambulantdead:  seems rather out of the ordinary.  Perhaps it's simply broken?08:53
yfiranother gdm question: how do i add a "failsafe" mode to a session in the gdm session choser?08:53
dazzedbread: goto your terminal and "sudo apt-get install build-essential"08:53
closurefirefox officialy sucks for ubuntu08:53
membreyacan someone help me with a question regarding the use of a digital camera and ubuntu ?08:53
bob2dazzed: dude08:53
somnambulantdeadwhat is wrong with FF?08:53
thechitowncubsbob2: you're smart =D, how can i seperate my kde application menu icons from my gnome menus08:53
venkmanclosure shit works for me08:53
dazzedbob2: ?08:53
SeamusLPFF works here08:53
bob2dazzed: please don't encourage him/her to do that unless you're going to be there to explain *everything*08:53
closureoh it works08:54
bob2thechitowncubs: no idea, I don't use menus08:54
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dazzedbob2: i was planning on it08:54
thechitowncubshehe08:54
thechitowncubsdamn08:54
closuretry getting it running real nice with video audio and schok08:54
closureit'll crash in no time08:54
closureshock08:54
membreyawhat's happening is when I plug in the cam, dmesg is picking it up ... and it's printing the message /dev/scsi/host4/bus0/target0/lun0 however /dev/scsi does not exist as a dir...it's apparently assigning it as /dev/sdc but again it's not08:54
dazzedbob2: and its not that hard to figure out...its something everyone needs to know...its not complicated considering its 3 commands08:54
membreyado I need to install and special packages?08:54
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remi_salut a tous08:54
venkmanclosure that's not firefox's fault or ubuntu's08:54
bob2dazzed: well, it's not something "everyone needs to know", everything anyone cares about should be packaged08:55
bob2membreya: are you using breezy?08:55
breaddazzed: i think we finally have something working08:55
membreyabob2: yes08:55
dazzedbob2: ...yeah make linux more like windows use..."everything you should ever need is in packages"08:55
breadbob2: k3b isn't there08:55
XTCboarderbob2 are you shure it's like that on the iPod's?08:55
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dazzednot everything everyone needs is in packages08:55
fitheachmorning all08:55
bob2membreya: then it's a known bug that you'll have to wait to have fixed08:55
bob2bread: yes it is08:55
dazzedand most of the debian packages are out dated08:55
SeamusLPthechitowncubs:  I think if you simply do not log on with kde with a particular user it will not create the files in your home directory that add the menu icons.  I'm not 100% on that.08:55
dazzed...08:55
bob2dazzed: everything should be in packages08:55
membreyabob2: aaaah crud08:56
bob2membreya: (everyone has been telling people not to use breezy)08:56
dazzedbob2: until the day that debian catches up and is able to update packages to follow along with dev updates...then packages are not the answer08:56
bob2XTCboarder: they do not use any standard protocol afaik08:56
membreyabob2: yeah but where's the fun..oh well I can always boot into a hoary livecd08:56
bob2dazzed: haha08:56
XTCboarderoh....08:56
bob2membreya: is there fun in a system that doesn't mount your camera?08:56
breadgoing to look again08:57
membreyabob2: a slight hinderance at best :)08:57
closurevenkman, well who's fault is it then?08:57
dazzedbob2: im a huge fan of the debian way (why i use it :) ) but you gotta understand most of the shit is very out of date ...considering linux is all about constant forward motion08:57
thechitowncubsseamus: that makes since08:57
bob2dazzed: linux isn't about that, but that's a side issue08:57
remi_nobody on the ubuntu french  xchat08:57
venkmanclosure yours, the people who made the plugin, or the people who wrote the decoder or whatever08:57
bob2dazzed: what for example isn't up to date?08:57
yfirdazzed: who told you linux is about 'constant forward motion'?08:57
SeamusLPthechitowncubs:  You can ensure that one user logs in as kde and the other logs in as gnome by your .xsession file in the home directory, I believe08:58
closurevenkman, lol i highly doubt it since many people are having issues with it08:58
bob2dazzed: and wouldn't it be better to get them updated so everyone can benefit from that work?08:58
breadbob2: i am looking under All section in the K section and I don' t C it08:58
remi_do you use gDesklets08:58
closuremplayer is pretty damn stable08:58
closureshock is stable08:58
pixil9i'm starting to like totem-xine08:58
venkmani use totem08:58
dazzedbob2, yfir: i misworderd its not "about" forward motion...but things are constantly updated almost DAILY08:58
closurefirefox should be stable08:58
bob2bread: ok, but it is there, assuming you enabled universe and multiverse08:58
bob2dazzed: sure, and wait until you see grumpy08:58
closurebut it's not in ubuntu for some reaosn08:58
bodaciousbWhat is a good mp3 player? Xmms isnt working at all08:58
closureerr reason08:58
breadbob2, i did enable those08:59
bob2dazzed: but what is "out of date" in ubuntu?08:59
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Adrosshow do i edit the gnome-places menu?08:59
yfirbodaciousb: before you change audio players, make sure that xmms is configured to use esd rather than alsa/oss08:59
dazzedbob2: if your so hung up on not rolling your own apps then you shouldnt be using linux .. i mean honestly "./configure && make && sudo make install" is just as easy as "sudo apt-get install"08:59
thechitowncubsSeamuslp: I don't have an .xsession file in my home dir08:59
breadbob2: yeah, it is under software sources08:59
bodaciousbyfir: ok08:59
SeamusLPthechitowncubs:  I think you have to make one ;)08:59
thechitowncubshehe09:00
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dazzedbob2: plenty of things...thats why new versions come out every six months to keep up with the change...theres been 2 releases of gaim since hoary came out a lone09:00
dazzedand its not just ubuntu09:00
thechitowncubsI wish I knew what to put in there09:00
dazzedits debian in general09:00
bob2dazzed: dude, I *maintain* packages09:00
breaddazzed: do you have the latest version of gaim?09:00
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breadinstalled09:00
dazzedthen why is fluxbox still on 9.11 when 9.13 is gettin ready to come out?09:00
dazzedbread: no i dont care enough to update :)09:01
bob2dazzed: I'm quite capable of compiling things, I just think that it's way better for me to put effort into that so it's trivial for other people to get software than it is for thousands of people to compile it09:01
SeamusLPthechitowncubs:  for gnome I think you just add gnome-session09:01
bob2dazzed: and both of those releases of gaim are in breezy, afaik09:01
bodaciousbyfir: where do i find that setting?09:01
Levanderlol @ dazzed telling bob how easy building packages is...09:01
breaddazzed: i did build essential and now how do I compile?09:01
SeamusLPthechitowncubs:  there may be guides... I'm not sure myself since I don't use the file...09:01
Adrossanyone, gnome places menu?09:01
DerNetteWurmhey guys, why does ubuntu still run x after "init 3" ?09:01
dazzedbob2: you have to understand im not complaining about the packages...blah blah...im jsut saying that people "should" know how to compile considering somethings cant be provided by packages...and its just good knowledge to know09:01
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dazzedbread: ok im going to explain to you so you know what your doing not just typing commands pm me09:02
bob2Adross: no need to repeat, and I'm pretty sure it's not modifiable09:02
bob2Adross: try asking on the user list09:02
Adrossuser...list?09:02
thechitowncubsthen kde-session ?09:02
bob2Adross: the mailing list09:02
thechitowncubsfor kde?09:02
SeamusLPAndross:  The places menu tends to edit itself based on mounted partitions, recent documents, and quick-folders.09:02
Adrossooh, ah well, thanks anyway09:02
Adrosscya09:02
bob2anyway, work time09:02
yfirbodaciousb: somewhere in options or preferences. i don't use xmms so i'm not exactly sure, but somewhere you'll find a box for 'output'. set it to esd or enlightened whatever09:02
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breaddazzed: listening09:02
dazzedbob2: btw thank you for maintaining packages...and i know you cant get em all...but people love fluxbox get that up to date fo ril09:03
SeamusLPthechitowncubs:  I really don't know.  Look it up.  Google for kde xsession :P09:03
dazzedbread: im going to pm you hold up09:03
yfirbodaciousb: it might be referred to as esound too, not sure09:03
bob2dazzed: I have no interest in fluxbox, tho09:03
bob2dazzed: but you do09:03
bob2dwhy don't you help get it updated? :)09:03
dazzedbob2: but A LOT OF PEOPLE DO09:03
Nico_1981Hello !  how to get rid of the tooltips that appear on the windows list ? I could not find this setting anywhere in the control center or configuration editor09:03
bodaciousbyfir: ok esound is in there09:03
bob2dazzed: I'm sure some people do09:03
dazzedbob2: cuz i dont "*maintain*" packages09:03
bob2dazzed: why not?09:03
dazzedno time09:03
dazzedi got school and stuff to attend09:04
bob2and I have a fulltime job09:04
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Levanderlol @ dont "*maintain*"09:04
bodaciousbyfir: it jsut doesnt play, it will load the file, just play does nothing at all, i did just install it though, ill try to restart, brb09:04
dazzedwell...im 19 years old and id rather go out get drunk smoke pot then maintain packages for ubuntu09:04
yfirbodaciousb: probably no need to restart your comp...09:04
bob2anyway, just a suggestion for how you can help if you care about fluxbox09:04
yfiroh well...09:04
remi_what is grumpy i m french09:04
Levanderdazzed: if you don't have time to maintain a package, how do you have time to keep up with all the latest updates?09:04
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yfirdazzed: then quit complaining about fluxbox not up-to-cutting-edge-date09:05
dazzedbob2: anyway im not trying to get on your case we are fighting the same cause...im just trying to state that there isnt a package for everything...09:05
bob2dudes, chill out09:05
dazzedyfir...shh09:05
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Levanderdazzed: but haning out complaining about packages takes priority over drinking and smoking apparently...09:06
bob2Levander: dude09:06
dazzedLevander: that has no relation09:06
natecullPrinting question:09:06
bob2come on09:06
natecullHow do I completely clear a job from the print queue?09:06
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dazzedLevander: im not complaining about packages09:06
dazzeddo you not listen09:06
kaesehummernothing takes priority over drinking and smoking!09:06
dazzed...09:06
Levanderall right, i'll stop - dazzed is a trol though... but i'll stop09:06
pixil9dazzed, agreed.09:06
natecullI am using the Gnome Print Manager to clear the queue, and it says it is doing it09:06
yfirdazzed: in anycase, what you are after (some repository that is totally up to date with every package in it) will never happen.09:06
SeamusLPbob2:  Cheers to the smoking man.09:06
dazzedrofl Levander ...09:06
natecullbut when I turn my printer back on, it starts printing the middle of a job09:06
dazzedyfir: thats what should happen...09:06
natecullis there another spool somewhere that CUPS is using that I need to clear?09:07
SeamusLPdazzed I meant, heh09:07
bob2yfir: yes, it will09:07
dazzedsome of you have a lot to learn09:07
bob2wait a couple of months09:07
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pixil9yfir: I'm in the CIA and my repositories are totally upto date daily09:07
Levanderdazzed: if you actually worked on it, and didn't just sit on the sidelines crying foul, you would see it's not gonna happen, it can't09:07
natecullRebooting my machine clears the queue. Presumably there's a way to *really* clear a queue that doesn't involve rebooting?09:07
bob2Levander: dude09:07
bob2drop it09:07
yfirdazzed: how? i can't think of a single system anywhere (linux or not) where the compiled binaries are exactly matched to developer's source09:07
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dazzedLevander: sit on the sidelines...09:07
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bob2you're not even listening to what dazzed is saying09:07
dazzedthats funny09:07
Levanderokay, bye guys, i gotta sleep..09:08
dazzedLevander: you have no idea what im talking about do you09:08
Levanderhave fun09:08
bodaciousbyfir:  i reset xmms still is not doing anything, what do you use?09:08
Levanderdazzed: no, i don't09:08
Levanderbut bye, gotta sleep...09:08
pixil9LISTEN ALL. YOU'RE ALL WRONG09:08
dazzedLevander: i dont think i complained about packages once...besides the statement that some packages are out of date...and you cant use .debs for everything...i dont really consider that complaining09:08
kaesehummerI'll type in all caps, because that makes me look smart09:08
yfirbodaciousb: beep media player, but it's essentially xmms, so it won't help to switch to it most likely09:08
natecullanybody have any suggestions?09:08
yfirbodaciousb: did you change the settings to esound?09:08
bodaciousbyfir:  i found the problem09:08
pixil9kaesehummer, YES I KNOW09:08
dazzedTO all you fuckers that think im a troll...if i didnt like packages why would i be on a debian based os...09:08
bob2dazzed: stop it09:09
dazzedfuckin morons09:09
bob2end of discussion, all of you09:09
bodaciousbyfir:  i was tyring to play from a windows shared drive, my wifes xomputer, if i copy the mp3 to mine it WILL play09:09
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yfirbodaciousb: haha09:09
bodaciousbyfir:  that sucks.... i have 1500 mp3's over there09:09
pablo928dazzed, tried to mount /etc/fstab "error on line #8"http://www.pastebin.com/276536 newest ?etc/fstab09:09
natecullI take it that's a no09:09
yfirbodaciousb: move them :)09:10
dazzedyfir: what are u talking about?09:10
yfirdazzed: huh?09:10
dazzedpablo928: hmmm...thats how i do it09:10
natecullsigh. Time to reboot then. Have a good life, all.09:10
bodaciousbis there a way to mount a network drive?09:10
yfirdazzed: it seemed you were upset that the ubuntu binary packages didn't match developer's source releases. I was just pointing out that it will never happen09:10
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dCYFahello all09:11
SeamusLPbodaciousbob:  Check out places, connec to server09:11
SeamusLPbodaciousbob:  Service type is going to be windows share ;)09:11
bob2yfir: please?09:11
dazzedbob2: and im sorry for getting upset...its just some people that i have seen maybe 2 times in this chat try to tell me im stupid gets on my nerves...and you understood me for the most part i wasnt trying to get upset we were just talking then some stupid asses had to jump in09:11
yfirbob2: ok. he asked what i was talking about though. subject dropped09:11
dazzedyfir: i realize that wont ever happen...its just what SHOULD happen to rule out compiling...09:11
saber_how can you enable php in apache2? i've already edited apache2.conf to have the AddType/DirectoryIndex directives09:12
pablo928dazzed. thanks for the help....i'll try again tomorrow09:12
bodaciousbSeamusLP: i need to mount the drive so xmms will think that the files on that server are local09:12
pixil9saber_, apt-get install libapache2-mod-php409:12
dCYFanice project you have here...09:12
dazzed pablo928 sorry man :(09:12
pixil9/etc/init.d/apache restart09:12
bob2saber_: do you have the libapache2-mod-php3 package installed?09:12
saber_ah. i do not have libapache2-mod-php09:13
saber_i thought all i needed was php09:13
dazzedbob2: who do i talk to about getting into maintaining packages?09:13
SeamusLPbodaciousb:  Good question, I know it's possible with NFS.09:13
pixil9the website?09:13
bodaciousbSeamusLP: whats nfs?09:14
pablo928dazzed, it will happen some time...just need to try some more. meanwhile i still have about 70GB on hdb to fill09:14
SeamusLPbodaciousb:  Well it won't help you out here because you need an NFS server09:14
bodaciousbSeamusLP: oh =)09:14
dazzedbodaciousb: nfs is a file transfer system for linux computers09:14
dazzedpablo928: hehe gl09:14
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SeamusLPbodaciousb:  xmms will not play them over a network?09:15
bodaciousbSeamusLP: not at all09:15
bodaciousbSeamusLP: i copy it to the desktop and off it goes...09:15
dazzedhas anyone else notices lockups caused by xmms?09:15
bodaciousbSeamusLP: its funny, it wont play the file, but it will load it... it will start scrolling the song name09:15
bodaciousbSeamusLP: the play button just doesnt do anything09:16
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SeamusLPbodaciousb:  hmm, is it possible with rhythmbox?09:17
bodaciousbSeamusLP: thats not installed09:17
SeamusLPbodaciousb:  I may have found something.  Check this link out http://rtfm.dyndns.info/tips/2000/04/30/26.shtml09:17
bob2dazzed: #ubuntu-motu09:17
bodaciousbwhats the command to search for packages on sudo? suck as rythembox and wine09:17
bob2bodaciousb: how do you mean? apt-cache search wine?09:18
saber_great. worked like a charm...09:18
topylisudo?09:18
dazzedbob2: thanks ... just anyone in there?09:18
bodaciousbSeamusLP: ill check that out09:18
bodaciousbbob2: exactly bob, thank you09:18
pixil9just use smbfs in your fstab09:18
bob2dazzed: yes.09:18
bob2bodaciousb: you mean "command line", not "sudo", btw09:18
bodaciousbbob2: i dont even know what sudo is.... all i know is i type that first09:19
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bodaciousband apperently wine is nowhere09:20
bob2bodaciousb: you don't need to use sudo with apt-cache09:20
SeamusLPbodaciousb: yeah and as pixil9 said, you should be able to add it to /etc/fstab09:20
dazzedbob2: thanks again...and sorry for gettin upset earlier...i just dont like gettin ganged up on...gettin called a trol by some newb09:20
bob2bodaciousb: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto explains how to enable universe09:20
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bodaciousbbob2: ok09:21
DerNetteWurmhmmm how do i turn x off?09:21
bodaciousbseamuslp: yeah im reading up on that right now09:21
pixil9DerNetteWurm, Remove gdm?09:21
venkmandazzed : goddamn newb ;)09:21
bob2DerNetteWurm: depends what you mean.  what are you trying todo?09:21
venkmanDerNetteWurm: /etc/init.d/xorg stop09:21
venkmanmaybe09:21
bob2no09:21
DerNetteWurmtrying to install nvidia drivers :)09:21
pixil9I guess update-rc.d -f xorg remove works09:22
bob2then you don't need to disable it09:22
bob2pixil9: no, that's also wrong09:22
bob2DerNetteWurm: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:22
pixil9why not?09:22
pixil9lol09:22
cens0redDerNetteWurm $gdm stop09:22
bob2no09:23
SeamusLPgood luck everyone... I'm off to bed.09:23
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DerNetteWurmare those drivers the same that are on the nvidia page?09:23
bob2please just use that guide09:24
venkmanyea09:24
bob2it's way easier for you and us09:24
venkmannvidia's are probably newer, but DOESNT mean better.09:24
bezibaerchenisnt mplayer in the repositories?09:24
bob2they are some release of drivers from nvidia09:24
bob2bezibaerchen: yes, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:24
pixil9The ubuntuguide is way better than that09:24
pixil9thats just not necessary09:24
DerNetteWurmhmmm k09:24
DerNetteWurmthx :)09:25
pixil9http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver09:25
pixil9look @ that DerNetteWurm09:25
bezibaerchenbob2: hmm, same with SuSE...09:25
bob2pixil9: then please fix the wiki09:25
bob2spreading documentation across the universe is not a good idea09:25
bodaciousbis makedir the command to make a directry?09:25
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bob2bodaciousb: mkdir09:25
bodaciousbbob2: thank you09:25
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venkmanahh09:26
venkmani think i convinced someone at work today to use ubuntu.09:27
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venkmangentoo--\09:27
ZerboxxHello09:27
jsgotangcothat's good man09:28
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ZerboxxAnyone able to help me with 2 (hopefully small) problems? 1 regarding sound control, the other regarding X-Chat09:29
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topyliopinion: should i add this to the RootSudo wiki entry? "Every cracker trying to brute-force their way into your box will know it has an account named "root" and will try that first. What they don't know is the usernames of your other users."09:31
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topylihrm. "are the usernames of..."09:31
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breadcrookr there any Gurus here?09:32
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DerNetteWurmyeah tuxracer works :)09:33
DerNetteWurmmy life is way better now09:33
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Donmust be few files missing warty live cd09:35
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Donno way can I get online with dialup09:36
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topyliok, changed the wiki. if i broke it, flame away :)09:38
cikilinwhat i need to listen am mp3 song just putting mouce over it?09:38
Codename_Vhey there.  just wondering, if I have an opteron does unbuntu handle multilib stuff ok?  meaning if I want to put some 64 bit and 32 bit apps togehter on the same system, does that work?09:38
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topyliZerboxx: you'll have to ask before we know if we can answer :)09:40
Zerboxxtopyli: I was just wanted to make sure I wasn't wasting my time :)09:41
cikilinwhat i need to listen am mp3 song just putting mouce over itwithaout click?09:41
topyliZerboxx: well, that's what you're doing right now ;)09:42
scizzocikilin: you need a player for it...and also the mad lib09:42
cikilink09:42
cikilini ahve a player09:42
cikilinxmms09:42
ZerboxxSo problem 1: I use a laptop, and have my stereo plugged into the headphone jack.  I also have a keyboard with volume control, but it dosn't control the headphone volume, is it possible to make it so it does?09:42
blueyedscizzo, he means "preview" on hover.09:42
upscikilin, install sox09:43
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blueyedZerboxx, does the kbd volume control works at all?09:43
topyliZerboxx: laptops are dogs. have you tried the "keyboard shortcuts" preferences in the "system" menu?09:43
Zerboxxkbd? I've gone into the volume control and I can control it from there, but not the keyboard09:43
scizzoblueyed: ooo...hmmm09:43
cikilinwhere can i get mad lib09:44
Zerboxxtopyli: yeah, when I use the volume controls the master volume changes/mutes, but that doesn't change the volume coming out of the headphone jack09:44
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topyliahh09:44
breadcrookne gurus?09:44
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davegahanI need help: while booting into ubuntu, and after giving my username and password my system crashes09:44
breadcrookdazzed: what happen?09:44
blueyedZerboxx, kbd=keyboard. I mean: get the keys recognized. But I remember having setup mine for volume up/down with gnome, too.09:44
dazzedbreadcrook: long story... got kicked09:45
blueyedZerboxx, so this is just an issue of master/channel volume.09:45
breadcrookby whom?09:45
davegahanit crashes so bad i have to pull out power and my battery to reboot09:45
dazzedbreadcrook: which file did you download from the gaim site?09:45
breadcrookbz209:45
breadcrookwanna pm09:45
dazzedtheres like 20 bz2's09:45
dazzedlol09:45
ZerboxxYeah, the keys are recognized (by keyboard controls, and not amaroK for some reason *shrugs*), but only control master09:45
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dazzeddid you download the source bz209:45
Zerboxxif possible, I'd like it to control headphones instead09:45
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blueyedZerboxx, no idea.. :(09:46
Mirvdavegahan: are you running i386, x86-64 or powerpc ubuntu?09:46
davegahani run a centrino notebook, kernel 386 and 686 give the same effect09:46
Zerboxxblueyed: Thanks for trying, hopefully I'll find something online, now for question 2 :)09:46
davegahani need to get into my system to retrieve my files09:47
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Mirvdavegahan: not that I had much idea, but one friend of mine has x86-64 installation and had a similar problem.. then again her pc was definitely problematic (windows crashed a lot of time) and is being repaired09:47
ZerboxxWhen I first attempted to get to here from the ubuntu website, I get a error messsage that states: "irc is not a registered protocol" how can I make it so it is, so it starts up X-Chat?09:47
Mirvdavegahan: to retrieve your files, you could try Ubuntu live cd09:47
davegahani running windows from the dual boot and have no problem09:48
Mirvok, then it's weird09:48
davegahanoh my god, this smells really bad09:48
davegahanit all started with totem freezing my whole system yesterday09:48
kadambiMy machine is running Hoary, iam trying totem movie player to play .DAT file, but i'm getting only audio no video . any way out ?09:49
lunitikkadambi: Codecs installed via w32codecs?09:50
kadambiI have no idea regrd w32codecs09:51
davegahananyone who knows how i can retrieve my files ? ubuntu crashes while booting gnome09:51
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blueyeddavegahan, have you tried another window manager? or plain console (tty1)?09:51
blueyedtry switching there with ctrl-alt-f1.. you can install then kde or xfce, if term is not enough.09:52
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lunitikkadambi: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:53
bezibaerchen http://fredsmith.us/mirror/funny/ft020726.gif09:53
lunitikkadambi: you have totem-xine installed correct?09:53
davegahanno i have not tried console09:53
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lunitikkadambi: those codecs don't work with totem-gstreamer...09:54
davegahani did boot up in text mode but my knowledge of console commands is limited09:54
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gurufflo09:54
lunitikkadambi: (just apt-get install totem-xine w32codecs when you activate the repo)09:54
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blueyedZerboxx, about url handlers with gnome, I'Ve found this: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=6836649&forum_id=619909:55
guruffis there any chance in future to have ubuntu optimized for specific processor; just like gentoo distros ? just wondering; anyhow what would be performance gain from having whole system compiled for: for example 686 not 386 ????????09:55
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Zerboxxblueyed Thanks again, I'll check it out09:55
cikilinups i installed sox but is not working09:56
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breadcrookwhat r u people doing?09:57
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venkmanguruff the results have been mixed. i would suggest just making sure you have the right kernel image installed.09:57
venkmanbreadcrook : i'm working on some pl/sql09:58
breadcrookreally09:58
venkmanyup09:58
breadcrookfor what?09:58
venkmandatabase designs.09:58
venkmana class.09:58
cikilinwhat i need to listen am mp3 song just putting mouce over it withaout click?09:58
breadcrookin access or oracle?09:58
Raquena good program for see video?09:58
venkmanoracle09:58
guruffvenkman; i have p3, and 686 kernel installed but still it is a bit slow09:58
breadcrookvenkman: do you have a movie database?09:58
venkmannah09:59
venkmani have tables for... students, tranasactions at a library and books09:59
upscikilin, do u have mpg321 installed?09:59
davegahanthere is a movie database called GCfilms09:59
breadcrookvenkman: i mean for a library of your own movies09:59
venkmanoh10:00
venkmanno10:00
venkmanbut i do own the ghostbusters!10:00
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venkmanand space balls :)10:00
gypsymaurohello10:00
cikilinwhere do i have to check?10:00
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venkmanyou?10:00
upscikilin, synaptic10:00
cikilink10:00
cikilinlet me see10:00
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Raquenups: a good program for see video?10:01
gypsymaurotrying to install ubuntu on a lan client, I can access to internet only thrugh proxy, but the installer never asks me to configure it so it freezes trying to test apt repository10:01
upsRaquen, totem, mplayer, vlc...10:01
syn-ackIt should ask for a proxy10:01
Raquentnx10:01
syn-ackthats one of the first things the installed does10:01
davegahanI like VLC a lot10:02
davegahanmuch better than Totem10:02
upsvlc is nice, but mplayer can pretty much play *any* video file :)10:02
bodaciousbhow do i delete a directry that isnt empty?10:02
cikilinups no10:02
upsyeah totem with gstreamer backend doesn't work well for me too10:03
cikilindo i intsall it?10:03
upscikilin, ofcourse :)10:03
syn-ackbodaciousb: man rm and man rmdir10:03
bodaciousbsyn-ack do you mean delete everything individually?10:03
syn-ackno10:03
gypsymaurosyn-ack: it doesn't.. :/10:03
syn-ackgypsymauro: which installer is this?10:04
syn-ackbodaciousb: I mean man the rm page and read it... it will tell you how to do it..10:04
cikilinups thanks10:04
cikilinworking10:04
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syn-ackbodaciousb: BE CARFULL with the command though10:04
upscikilin, np10:04
bodaciousbsyn-ack: ok, thank you10:04
blueyeddavegahan, you could just do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" which would install all KDE relevant packages, then from the login window (gdm) choose KDE and hope that it does not lockup.10:04
blueyedWhat about failsafe gnome (or sth similar)?10:05
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venkmanwow10:06
venkmanmy 30 line pl/sql function compiled.10:06
venkmanhah10:06
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Aircobrahi10:07
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gypsymaurosyn-ack: ubuntu 5.04 choosing italian10:07
davegahanOK I will try to do that blueyed10:08
davegahanhow can I get rid of KDE afterwards ?10:08
gypsymauroit installs the system then asks me if I want to download italian packages , I answer yes but then it checks apt repository without asking me proxy config10:08
gypsymauroand then doesn't goes in timeout..10:09
syn-ackgypsymauro: hrm.... the Hoary installer did it for me... I dont think the codepage would really matter in this situation...10:09
venkmandamn italians.10:10
gypsymaurolol10:10
gypsymaurovenkman: :P10:10
venkman:)10:10
syn-ackIm italian.. watch it. :p10:10
venkmanwhere's my lamborghini?10:10
gypsymaurohoary is the 5.04?10:10
bodaciousbsyn-ack: i read the manual and rmdir -d doesnt do anything, as well as rm -d -f doesnt do anything10:10
syn-ackgypsymauro: yes10:10
venkmani want an early 90s contach please.10:10
bodaciousbsyn-ack: i still cant delete that directry withought doing a 1 file at a time deal10:11
bob2bodaciousb: rm -r dirname10:11
venkmanoh10:11
venkmanand i want white10:11
venkmanwith white interior10:11
venkmanok10:11
venkmanthnx10:11
syn-ackbodaciousb: thats because you need to have the recursive flag like bob2 said10:11
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gypsymaurosyn-ack: but did u install the italian version?:)10:11
syn-ackgypsymauro: No. I live in the US... I dont know a lick of the language. :)10:11
bodaciousbsyn-ack: worked like a charm, thank you10:11
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venkmanhow much do lamborghinis cost in italy?10:13
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blueyeddavegahan: You'd have to remove all the packages again, that you do not want/need (quite a lot then actually). It would probably better to "sudo apt-get install xfce4" then. It gets also installed as an alternative desktop environment.10:15
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Zerboxxblueyed: I figured it out, not with that link you sent, but with a few others.  I had to make firefox recognize the irc protocol with 2 extra little lines10:18
blueyedZerboxx, where?10:19
Zerboxxblueyed Where are the lines?10:20
blueyedyes, where did you add those lines?10:21
davegahanactually i better make a backup of my files and reinstall ubuntu10:21
Zerboxxblueyed: with Firefox up, type "about:config" in the address bar10:21
blueyedok, Zerboxx. And than adding new network.protocol... line?10:23
Zerboxxblueyed right click and go to new --> boolean and put "network.protocol-handler.external.irc" then choose True10:23
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Zerboxxthen, you do the same but choose string, and put in "network.protocol-handler.app.irc" and then put in "xchat" (unless you use something else)10:23
ZerboxxI found the entry on one site, and the other on another, put'em together and tada10:24
blueyedfine :)10:24
blueyedThough the gnome-way would be global for all gnome apps.10:24
ZerboxxAnother question to test your expertise blueyed :)10:24
blueyedlike gnome-open would profit, too. - nada, just on Linux since Hoary.. :)10:25
ZerboxxI found the directions there confusing so I stuck with the firefox directions :)10:25
ZerboxxCan you make it (in gnome) so windows snap to edges?10:26
hans_im not hearing any sound when playing a game with wine10:26
blueyedZerboxx: when moving? to screen borders and other windows? I thought I had it there (using kde actually).10:26
Zerboxxblueyed: I know KDE has it (I was running MDK a few hours ago) but I haven't found a setting in gnome to do that10:27
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blueyedZerboxx, I would google. No other idea - though there might be something in the settings menu (windows), where also autofocus (xhover) is.10:30
Zerboxxblueyed, thanks again, you've been a great help10:30
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forsaker8k6'moring guys! :D10:31
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Zerboxxmorning?! yeah I guess so...Hi!10:31
hans_i have a problem with the sound in wine...can anybody help?10:32
forsaker8k6mmm.. yep :P10:32
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Zerboxx4am here so still dark :)10:33
spiralhi10:34
forsaker8k6here 10 am and the sun shines :P10:34
syn-ackZerboxx: where are you Nova Scota?10:34
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Zerboxxsyn-ack: Hamilton, Ontario10:34
syn-ackrather s/ //;10:34
syn-ackThats still the same timezone as central, no?10:35
Zerboxxumm no, I'm est10:35
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syn-ackah10:35
Zerboxxya, damn it's early, but I had to get ubuntu workin' nicely :D10:36
syn-ackIm running Breezy, so there is no "working Nicely." :)10:36
forsaker8k6asd10:36
ZerboxxBreezy?10:36
forsaker8k6unstable Ubuntu :P10:36
Zerboxxoooh fun10:37
forsaker8k6syn-ack: is it SO unstable?10:37
syn-ackIts not too bad, actually10:37
ZerboxxQuestion: Is there any way to have 2 programs which produce sound to do that at the same time?  I keep getting "whatever device is in use"10:37
syn-ackThere is *some* breakage which I still have to go thru, fix and submit bugreports10:37
Zerboxx...well 2 or more I guess10:37
syn-ackZerboxx: Use ALSA not, OSS10:38
forsaker8k6syn-ack: i've got to try some day or later...10:38
syn-ackChange the plugin its using to ALSA10:38
Zerboxxsyn-ack: I'm kinda new, so how do I go about doing that?10:38
syn-ackZerboxx: What program is this?10:38
Zerboxxsyn-ack: I have amaroK and I was just testing out...totem10:39
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syn-ackah... I dont use either... heh10:39
Zerboxxheh10:39
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forsaker8k6neither do I :D10:39
syn-ackiirc, they both have gstreamer support though10:39
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syn-ackWell, I *know* that totem does...10:40
hal0is this the help channel?10:40
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hal0cause i need a lil help :-D10:40
Zerboxxwhen I look at Volume Control I'm using Intel82801DB-1CH4 (ALSA Mixer), so I am using Alsa...right?10:40
syn-ackyes10:40
syn-ackZerboxx: The actual apps have to be using it too10:41
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syn-ackZerboxx: Take XMMS for example, out of the box, it uses OSS as the default output dev10:41
Zerboxxsyn-ack: When I choolse alsa in amaroK I get this error: [GStreamer Error]  Alsa device "default" does not exist......:/10:41
syn-ackhrmmm10:42
syn-acklet me install amarok10:42
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Zerboxxthanks a ton syn-ack10:42
hal0to launch java programs, ya gotta use the command line, right?  so how do you setup a command line shortcut to execute a terminal java command?10:43
syn-ackoh, wow10:43
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forsaker8k6hal0, you can write a little bash script :P10:44
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hal0yeah, cept i dont know the first thing about doing that :-x10:44
syn-ackHoly hell, I need to configure MySQL for this thing?10:44
hans_how do i see if my graphics device supports direct draw?10:44
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Zerboxxnono I just used there generic thing10:44
Zerboxx:D10:45
ZerboxxIs there a command to see all packages under a name with apt-get?10:45
forsaker8k6hal0, it's nothing so hard you have to create a brand new text file10:45
syn-ackZerboxx: apt-cache search10:45
forsaker8k6with nano or your preferred text editor10:45
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xoxoxohello. anybody pls tell me a tool in ubuntu that can remove CR/LF in text files? i want to convert Windows text file to linux.10:47
topylihal0: start the file with a line like " #!/bin/sh " and it's a script10:48
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Zerboxxsyn-ack I'm not sure what packages of alsa I have installed and which I need, that might be the problem...10:48
topylithen add the commands you want, each on its own line10:48
forsaker8k6:D10:49
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syn-ackZerboxx: You dont need anything ALSA its already installed.10:49
topylisave to your ~/bin and make executable. voila!10:49
shane__Hey, I have a problem with having two NIC's.10:49
syn-ackZerboxx: This is more of a grstreamer issue10:50
shane__it's really anoying, when I try to set one as the default it ignores me10:50
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shane__And then it uses the nic for my home network as the default, causing the internet to not work10:50
Zerboxxsyn-ack: Hmm, though gstreamer and oss work fine *grumble*10:50
shane__I keep choose, eh1 deault over and over again10:50
shane__totally ignores me10:50
shane__:p10:50
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forsaker8k6guys, i gotta go. See you!10:51
ice_1963by10:51
syn-ackZerboxx: Give a few, figuring out this thing10:52
Zerboxxsyn-ack sure thing10:52
ShaneAu:(10:52
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topyliShaneAu: not sure but try 'route add default eth1'10:54
topyliShaneAu: it will fix it or breake it completely :)10:55
ShaneAu:O lol10:55
ShaneAuIll search the ubuntu forums briefly first, then I'll try that10:55
ShaneAu(if I don't find anything)10:55
topyliShaneAu: or google, it's generic for all linuxen10:56
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syn-ackZerboxx: hrm... looking around in amaroK, i dont see anything... let me check some other things10:57
Zerboxxsyn-ack: Ok, thanks10:57
ShaneAuAt the moment I have eth1 disabled, otherwise it will default to it and then it attempts to use my homenetwork as the internet10:58
syn-ackZerboxx: um.... I dont know...10:58
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syn-acklet me open a console now and look into some ALSA settings10:58
Zerboxxsyn-ack hrmm ok, thanks10:59
topyliShaneAu: oh yeah, you'll have to use eth0 for the route command or whatever you want to be default10:59
ShaneAuyep10:59
syn-ackZerboxx: do you have /dev/pcm?10:59
Zerboxxsyn-ack: no11:00
topyliShaneAu: or just switch the network cables :)11:00
syn-ackZerboxx: heres a little test for that, and remember to turn your system down... cat /dev/urandom > /dev/mixer11:00
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syn-ackTo stop it, hit ^C11:01
Zerboxxcat: write error: Invalid argument11:01
ShaneAutopyli, I've tryed that, it adentually sets the default to my lan] 11:01
ShaneAu:S11:01
ShaneAuEventually*11:01
topylihrm11:01
syn-ackGah, I havent had to mess with ALSA in a while.. forgive me11:01
Zerboxxsyn-ack should I sudo the command?11:01
Zerboxxsyn-ack: that's alright :)11:01
syn-ackAHA11:03
Zerboxx!11:03
syn-ackZerboxx: ls /dev/snd/ and tell me if you see pcm...11:03
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Zerboxxsyn-ack: I see pcmC0D0c, pcmC0D0p, pcmC0D1c, pcm C0D2c, 3c and 4c11:04
syn-ackOk, you have it then11:04
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syn-ackand whats the error again?11:05
Zerboxxumm 1 second11:05
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Zerboxx[GStreamer Error]  ALSA device "deafult" does not exist11:05
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syn-ackoooooh11:06
syn-ackhrm11:06
Zerboxxhrm indeed11:06
KaiLZerboxx: croll-upgrade from sarge?11:07
KaiLcross..11:07
syn-acktry this... with sudo... dpkg -l | grep gstreamer0.8-alsa11:07
ZerboxxKaiL: Umm I did a fresh install..if that's what your asking me11:07
KaiLok11:07
KaiLI have the same fun here11:07
Zerboxxsyn-ack: now what?11:08
syn-ackwhat does it say?11:08
KaiLgstreamer-alsa cries about devices not being there, which are there11:08
Zerboxxsyn-ack nothing, back at prompt11:08
syn-ack;)11:08
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johpehi there, I've just used synaptic to install the swedish language packs, then I've run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" and selected the sv_SE.UTF-8 but when I log out and log in again through gdm selecting the newly installed swedish language ubuntu says: "Language sv_SE.UTF-8 does not exist, using System defaul" ... anyone got any suggestion to this problem!??11:08
syn-ackKaiL: lookie there, its not installed.11:08
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syn-ackactually, there was a typo.... dpkg -l | grep gstreamer11:09
syn-acktry that11:09
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Zerboxxahh11:10
johpeI've gotten swedish in Firefox but that's it nowhere else in the system...11:10
Zerboxxsyn-ack ok, got lots of stuff that time11:10
syn-ackShould be the first one, no?11:10
Zerboxxsyn-ack: the first one in that list is the ALSA plugin for GStreamer, yes11:11
syn-ackhrm. WTF then11:11
=== Zerboxx wants alsa
syn-ackits installed.11:12
syn-ackAll of it is.11:12
=== Zerboxx wants alsa to work
Zerboxx;)11:12
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syn-ackit does, like has been pointed out..11:12
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spiralwhy isn't gimp 2.2.6 in breezy ?11:13
syn-ackZerboxx: this is something to do with AmaroK, because it works FINE here....11:13
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spiraland gnat-gps2 ?11:13
syn-ackspiral: it hasent been included yet?11:13
Zerboxxsyn-ack Where else can I test out alsa, just to verify?11:13
spiraland firefox 1.0.3 ?11:13
syn-ackZerboxx: pop open xmms11:14
Zerboxxsyn-ack: I don't have it, should I download it?11:14
syn-ackuse Music Player then11:14
syn-ackaka Rythmbox11:15
Zerboxxand it uses alsa by default?11:15
syn-ackyes11:15
syn-ackit uses gstreamer.11:15
Zerboxx*sigh* stupid amaroK11:15
mjrI think it uses esd by default in ubuntu, at least, but you can tune that with gstreamer-properties if you need to11:16
mjr(tune and check)11:16
Amaranthmjr: Rhythmbox uses gstreamer. :)11:16
mjryes, and gstreamer uses esd11:16
mjr-> rhythmbox uses esd11:16
AmaranthNope.11:16
syn-acknot if the ALSA plugin is installed.11:16
AmaranthRhythmbox doesn't care where the sound goes or where it comes from.11:16
AmaranthIt uses gstreamer. :P11:17
mjr*sigh*11:17
AmaranthI know, you're trying to play word games.11:17
syn-ackesd is barely used in Gnome now.11:17
mjrAmaranth, well, play your little terminology games if you11:17
mjrmust11:17
AmaranthI'm an Apple fanboy, I can play with words all day. :D11:17
ZerboxxWhen I go to gstreamer-properties OSS was chosen, so I switched to ALSA, and tested and I get: "Failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA-Advance...'"11:17
AmaranthLike that 3Ghz in a year bit.11:17
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Zerboxxsame error with ESD if that matters11:18
AmaranthSame with OSS and arts?11:18
Zerboxxnot with OSS and I don't see arts11:19
syn-ackZerboxx: go to System => Prefs => Multimedia Systems Selector and see what that says...11:19
AmaranthI think it can use arts, anyway.11:19
AmaranthThat's where he is...11:19
Zerboxxyup, that's where I am11:19
Zerboxxout of ALSA, ESD and OSS, only oss works11:19
AmaranthOk, so gstreamer is totally fubar.11:19
AmaranthCan you see if xmms plays music?11:19
syn-ackno, ALSA is11:19
Zerboxxis it possible to unfubar it?11:20
syn-ackSeems that there is no ALSA driver... which isnt right.. what hardware are you running, Zerboxx?11:20
Amaranthsyn-ack: Possibly, since OSS is a wrapper around ALSA now and ESD uses OSS.11:20
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syn-ackAmaranth: right11:20
Zerboxxsyn-ack: I'm running a laptop so little hard to tell, I forget the name sigmetel or something...11:20
syn-ackThats an SB live then11:21
syn-ackI have the same card in my workstation11:21
Zerboxxsyn-ack: I can find out, but it'll take some digging (haven't found an easy way in ubuntu yet)11:21
syn-ackZerboxx: sudo lspci -vv11:21
AmaranthThat's the emuwhatever10k driver. :P11:21
AmaranthI haven't used a Live! in awhile.11:21
syn-ackAmaranth: I want to make sure...11:22
Zerboxxgeez, what is this syn-ack??11:22
syn-ackthat is the hardware you have in your box11:22
AmaranthYeah, lspci -vv is a little shocking.11:22
Amaranthlsusb -vv is worse :)11:22
ZerboxxI'm guessing this is it: Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4 -L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)11:22
syn-ackZerboxx: now do you see something along these lines? 0000:00:13.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)11:23
AmaranthOk, not a Live! card then.11:23
syn-ackgood good11:23
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syn-ackits ac97 and I forget that module..11:23
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AmaranthI think I have an ac97, hang on.11:23
MyNameIsChrisAny sound Gurus here?11:23
Zerboxxhehe this is completely over my head now :s11:23
syn-ackZerboxx: what does sudo lsmod say?11:24
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Amaranth0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)11:24
AmaranthI wonder if the driver is the same.11:24
Zerboxxsyn-ack lots of stuff, what in particular?11:24
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syn-ackZerboxx: do this... lsmod | grep snd11:24
AmaranthNope, my alsa modules are snd_via*11:24
AmaranthI mean, I have snd_ac97_codec but that's useless without the card specific driver.11:25
syn-ackright11:25
Zerboxxok I have 9 things now11:25
syn-ackZerboxx: pastbin.com it for me, please11:25
MyNameIsChrisSounds like I cam at the right time. Can anyone help me set up 5.1ch sound in Hoary on an Intel ICH5?11:26
Zerboxxsyn-ack pardon?11:26
AmaranthZerboxx: http://rafb.net/paste/11:26
syn-ackor that11:26
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syn-ackZerboxx: Copy and paste the output there11:26
Zerboxxwhat nickname do I put? desc? language?11:27
AmaranthWell, I know Evanescence is awesome but that's about it. :D11:27
AmaranthZerboxx: You just need to put in a nick.11:27
AmaranthDoesn't matter what it is, you'll be pasted a URL for us.11:27
Amaranths/pasted/pasting/11:27
Zerboxxok, done11:27
syn-ackwhats the url now?11:27
Zerboxxhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/SOQGYe37.html11:27
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syn-ackEverything looks right..11:28
Mace68has anyone tried nero linux?11:28
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Zerboxxis it possible that a config file is just looking for the wrong thing?11:29
syn-ackZerboxx: I think I would have to side with Amaranth on this one,, gstreamer is toast...11:29
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Zerboxxsyn-ack: anyway to bring it back to life? re-install maybe?11:30
syn-ackZerboxx: Hold that thought11:30
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Amaranthsudo apt-get install --reinstall libgstreamer-0.811:30
Amaranthtry that11:30
Amarantherr11:30
Amaranthsudo apt-get install --reinstall libgstreamer-0.8-011:30
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Zerboxxcouldn't find package11:31
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TFPhi11:33
ZerboxxIf need be, I could just reinstall ubuntu, and keep my /home drive the way it is (so I don't loose my songs), right?11:33
syn-ackDont reinstall.11:33
Zerboxx:) ok11:33
syn-ackIm checking bugzilla11:33
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closureZerboxx, what's wrong with your ubuntu?11:34
TFPi have a problem with the mplayer-mozilla-plugin, i installed it succesfully and it also starts, but when i want to watch a quicktime stream the video doesn't start, could someone help me?11:34
Zerboxxclosure: it apperas gstreamer isn't all that happy with me11:34
syn-ackZerboxx: heres the issue, I think.... https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=482111:34
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simba_salut a tous11:35
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simba_bonjour mon frere est pas la et je voudrais creer un utilisateur11:36
simba_vous pouvez m'aider11:36
syn-ack...11:36
qweqwwine is disgusting, unless it's from california11:36
simba_car il est fort en linux mais il est as la11:36
qweqwi know my french..11:37
syn-acksimba_: this is an English channel. Do you know english?11:37
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closureZerboxx, what is gstreamer11:37
qweqwjust kidding11:37
TFPsomeone please help me?11:37
qweqwi hardly know english half the time11:37
qweqwwith?11:37
TFPi have a problem with the mplayer-mozilla-plugin, i installed it succesfully and it also starts, but when i want to watch a quicktime stream the video doesn't start, could someone help me?11:37
qweqwyou need the quicktime codecs, i imagine11:38
qweqwdoes it play audio?11:38
TFPnop11:38
TFPi have the whole codec pack downloaded11:38
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qweqwhmm11:39
qweqware we talking an embedded video?11:39
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Zerboxxsyn-ack: It says it's resolved, but I don't really see a fix...11:40
TFPyes11:40
TFPits a quicktime trailer11:40
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qweqwdoesn't work for me either11:40
TFPhm, well back in the days on my old fedora it worked perfectly11:41
Slask3nIs it possible to munt a CD-image so ubuntu thinks it is a CD-ROM? Like Daemon Tools for Windows does..11:41
syn-ackZerboxx: I dont know, all I can say is submit a bug report.11:41
qweqwyes, sladen11:41
Zerboxxsyn-ack: What information should be included?11:42
qweqwi dunno, TFP . plugger has never worked for me11:42
TFPis there a way to configure the mplayer-plugin11:42
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syn-ackWhats going on, output of lspci -vv (all of it) and lsmod (all of it)11:42
qweqwdo they show up in about:plugins11:43
syn-ackZerboxx: in as much detail possible.11:43
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TFPyes11:44
TFPall of them11:44
TFPfor every movie format11:44
syn-ackWith that, Im going to bed11:44
qweqwoh?11:44
qweqwsame thing with me11:44
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Raqueni've a several problem11:45
TFPis there another way to play streaming movie within the browser?11:45
Raquentherar errors on the filesystem11:45
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Raquenhow to delete these?11:46
qweqwi don't think so, TFP11:46
spiralRaquen: fsck ?11:46
TFPF*CK11:46
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Raquensi11:46
Raquenyes11:46
qweqwlet me check freshmeat11:46
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hungerI have kubuntu/breezy installed and now want to add ubuntu-desktop. apt-get says that package has unmet dependencies. What can I do about this?11:48
Raquenspiral: yes, how to do?11:48
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ZerboxxOk 2 more quetstions, is there apt-get uninstall?, and if I did something like this: ln -s .... what did that do, and can I backtrack it?11:49
qweqwapt-get  --purge remove packagename11:50
spiralRaquen: fsck /dev/hda1 (if device is hda1)11:50
Raquensecure?11:50
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spiralRaquen: choose the good device, and be sure it's unmounted11:51
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qweqwnot a damn thing on freshmeat11:51
qweqwhttp://freshmeat.net/projects/dlembed/11:52
qweqwtry that one11:52
TFPk11:53
TFPi will11:53
TFPthx anyway11:53
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ZerboxxSo I'm back...and the sound problem has changed :(11:56
ZerboxxNow ESD works, and OSS doesn't11:56
Zerboxxalsa still isn't working11:56
closureZerboxx, do you not have any sound at all?11:56
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closureor just from gstreamer?11:57
Zerboxxclosure: I have sound, working with ESD, but I'l like ALSA11:57
closurestrange11:57
Zerboxxvery, I followed directions at ubuntuguide, and that made oss work, and nothing else, I undid those steps, and now esd works, and nothing else11:58
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drummer87hi, can someone help me? I need the font 'Helvetica' which is in OOo, to use on a winXP box in InDesign.. but where is the font file located in ubuntu?11:59
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jonohi all12:01
jonoanyone compiled the VMWare modules on Ubuntu?12:01
drummer87i found some fonts in /usr/share/fonts or something, but couldn't find any others... help, anyone?12:01
ubuaskhow can i see information about users and groups on a machine in console mode?12:03
ubuaskand also change a user from a group to another12:03
Tomcat_drummer87: There's a package for fonts, but I'm not sure you mean that.12:04
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Choubakajono: They compile just fine.12:04
stevedubuask: you want to see what groups are set on your machine or what groups your user is a member of ?12:04
jonoChoubaka, not on my stock hoary kernel here12:05
Choubakaas long as you have linux-headers-`uname -r` installed12:05
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ubuasksteved right !12:05
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drummer87Tomcat_: not quite i don't think.. the font is already there in OOo12:05
Tomcat_drummer87: So you're only trying to find the file to it?12:05
jonoChoubaka, still doesnt work12:05
drummer87yep12:06
stevedubuask: to see what groups are set up on the machine look in /etc/group that will list them12:06
Choubakathen weird.12:06
drummer87so that i can use it on my winXP box12:06
Tomcat_drummer87: Search for "font" in synaptic, then go through the installed packages and see what files they installed... maybe you can find your font this way.12:06
ChoubakaYou must provide more info.12:06
stevedubuask: if you want to see what groups your user belongs to type groups12:06
ubuasksteved thanks12:06
drummer87thanks, will try that12:06
ubuasksteved k12:06
ubuasksteved and to add a new group?12:07
stevedubuask: groupadd12:07
ubuasksteved kewl thanks12:07
stevedubuask: best to have a quick read through man group / man groups / man groupadd12:07
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karlanyone know how to install mplayer-586 on hoary as of today?12:12
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imPULSIVhello everybody here12:14
imPULSIVits me again12:14
imPULSIVthe problemchild from germany12:14
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karlthings like mplayer-586: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed12:15
mpqsomething's wrong with sound12:15
karlare happening to me when I try an install mplayer12:15
mpqwhen I open a flash file it doesn't play the sound12:15
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Choubakakarl: you're installing Debian (not Ubuntu) packages :|12:16
imPULSIVyesterday i had the idea of installing gimpshop wich stands for a mod of the gimp 2.24 with an interface looking like photoshop12:16
karlchoubaka, yeah, that's the marillat repos, I thought they were just meant to work?12:16
imPULSIVthe idea was fine i had but ...12:16
mpqI need help12:16
Choubakakarl: they're not entirely ubuntu compatible.12:16
karlmpq: just digging up the link I think you need.12:16
imPULSIVafter installing the software my whole system doesnt speak prppperly12:17
mpqwhat link?12:17
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mpqthere isn't always a problem12:17
karlhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=149222#post14922212:17
karlthat one :)12:17
imPULSIVmeaning12:17
karldamnit, that' snot it.12:17
imPULSIVthe language of choice for me as a german would be german but12:17
drummer87Tomcat_: thanks, i found it .. not quite what i expected (different file type), hope it'll work12:17
karlmpq: this one. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2450912:18
karldoing the ln worked great for me.12:18
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karlchoubaka: so any suggestions on how to install mplayer?12:18
imPULSIVthe thing is after reeboot the systemmessages such as startmenue and so on are in english where12:18
karlif it was just equal versions, but different names, I'd force it.12:19
imPULSIVprogramms such as mozilla still speak german12:19
mpqwill I have to do that every time I boot the computer?12:19
karlmpq: no. it's permanent12:19
imPULSIVhow may i fix that?12:19
Choubakakarl: use this source instead: deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted12:19
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Choubakaafaik it has ubuntu-ised mplayer packages.12:19
karlchoubaka: but it always wants higher versions of libfontconfig1 and libvorbis12:19
Choubakahm12:20
karlyech, I thought the backports stuff was virtually guaranteed to break things.12:20
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Choubakakarl: well, less than installing Debian Sarge/Sid packages from marillat :P12:20
mpqit didn't work12:20
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karlwell, sucks to be you then mpq :)12:20
ChoubakaGet the source and compile a deb yourself? :)12:20
karlyou were getting the pictures but no sound in flash right mpq?12:21
mpqyeah12:21
karlwell, it worked for me :)12:21
scizzoimPULSIV: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/HoaryLanguages12:21
Choubakajust make sure you have all possible -dev files mplayer requires/recommends so you'll get support for all the codecs :P12:21
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imPULSIVscizzo thx for the linkfeed12:22
Super_Cat_Froghi - is it possible to replace hotplug (at boot time) with coldplug and just use hotplug for actual hotplugging like in gentoo?12:23
mpqI'm going to try rebooting12:23
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imPULSIVim out12:26
imPULSIVthx for the help12:26
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karlchoubaka: any idea what package this would be?12:26
karlTo compile MPlayer with X11 support, you need to have the XFree86 development12:26
karl  packages installed.12:26
karlapt-cache search x dev is unhelpful12:26
Choubakaxlibs-dev12:27
snowblinkcan anyone recommend an IRC server for a LAN?12:27
Choubakaiirc12:27
Choubakasnowblink: ircd :D12:27
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snowblinkChoubaka, thanks12:27
Choubakasnowblink: learn to use apt-cache search. :)12:28
Chameleon22is there a KDE app to creates notes something like chm look ... , i know there is just dont remember the name12:28
snowblinkChoubaka, don't be patronizing. I asked for a recommendation12:28
RiddellChameleon22: knotes?12:28
Choubakasnowblink: :P12:28
Chameleon22knotes is like small stuff12:29
Chameleon22i need it to write specifications12:29
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=== keikoz bonjour tlm
ChoubakaChameleon22: hmm. Learn latex?12:30
Chameleon22ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH12:31
Chameleon22Choubaka: dont swear !12:31
Choubakano? :D12:31
p0mHaha. Learning latex.12:31
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Chameleon22no12:31
Choubakahey, latex is made for stuff like that.12:31
Chameleon22well if i had a little gui that was fast ....12:31
p0mSo was postscript.12:31
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Choubakanowadays people just word and crap like that when they should be using latex.12:32
Choubaka+use12:32
qweqwfuck..12:32
Chameleon22Choubaka: so type in latex mate12:32
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qweqwwhat are the differenes between the last development branch and the stable release of hoary hedgehog12:33
Choubakalatex is actually quite simple.12:33
qweqwi can't see to find  a changelog12:33
Choubakaqweqw: Hoary is stable :P12:33
Choubakawhereas breezy will break.12:33
Amaranths/will break/is broken/12:33
Choubakaok12:33
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AmaranthFor certain meanings of broke, anyway.12:34
karlyou could use lyx if you want a front end to latex12:34
slask3nWhy is my internet connection disappearing sometimes? When i surf around on internet my internetconnection suddenly wont connect to internet.. :s it just comes out of the blue without any signs or messages...12:34
Choubaka"will break worse than you can possibly imagine"12:34
slask3nis it a bug maybe?12:34
zenwheni installed breezy and came home last night to it stealing money out of my stash. its broke alright.12:34
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Choubakakarl: There's also a GTK app called Amyedit.12:34
zenwhen;_;12:34
hungerI have kubuntu/breezy installed and now want to add ubuntu-desktop. apt-get says that package has unmet dependencies. What can I do about this?12:34
ChoubakaI made debian packages for the earlier versions.12:34
karlor just do it in xml, and write your own xslt for whatever output you want12:34
karlxml the planet!12:34
ubuasksteved so i did a cat /etc/group and apart from my username and root there a a lot of users like xfs and rpc , what are these and why?12:35
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qweqwi'm talking about the very last development snapshot before hoary hedgehog12:35
p0mXslt and xsl-fo is cute.12:35
snowblinkqweqw, the RC?12:35
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hypnoChoubaka: feh, latex is 20 years old and designed with the limitations of past systems in mind. it's not inherently better12:35
qweqwyes12:35
breadcrookhypno: are you a guru?12:35
Choubakahypno: latex isn't meant to do the same as word.12:35
snowblinkqweqw, There were about 150-200MB of updates from the RC to stable12:35
Choubakaalso, word is not meant to do what latex does.12:35
Amaranthhunger: THis is why you don't use breezy. :)12:35
karlbut you can use each for the other12:36
karland there's a shit heap of overlap.12:36
Choubakabut nowadays Amyedit it's using autotools and crap like that and I don't know how to debianise :(12:36
Amaranthhunger: The only way to make ubuntu-desktop install in breezy is to disable universe and leave it disabled.12:36
hypnoChoubaka: what does latex do that a wordprocessor doesn't?12:36
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breadcrookdoes any body here where to get and how to install sound drivers12:36
stevedubuask: they are used by system software don't need to worry about them12:36
Choubakahypno: in latex, you just type the content.12:36
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hungerAmaranth: Yeah, I know:-) But there are so few packages comming into hoary nowadays:-)12:36
karl*cough*bullshit*cough*12:36
Choubakaand the compiler takes care of formatting.12:36
hypnoChoubaka: and a load of markup mixed in with your text12:37
Amaranthhunger: few == zero :)12:37
Amaranthkarl: What is bullshit?12:37
Choubakain word, you need to format things yourself.12:37
karlchoubaka :)12:37
breadcrookdoes anybody have a clue about sound drivers?12:37
hypnoChoubaka: overfull hbox!12:37
ubuasksteved so do you know a good howto about users , groups and stuff like that? you know , to understand things a little better12:37
qweqwyes, breadcrook12:37
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Choubakaand then the stuff may not be the same on another machine with the same version of word! .p12:37
breadcrookcan you helpme out12:37
hungerAmaranth: There is the occassional security fix:-)12:37
qweqwlinuxdoc.org12:37
qweqwi could try12:37
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breadcrookfor ubuntu of course12:38
qweqwyeah12:38
davixin the smb.conf, how do I make a share which the files charset/codepage will be cp1255? i've tried charset = cp1255, and codepage = cp1255, it dosent work, any ideas?12:38
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Choubakahypno: latex markup is simple.12:38
qweqwdid you check the volume, etc12:38
breadcrookis it packaged some where or do you know a command to run?12:38
breadcrookyah12:38
qweqwsetmixer is what i use12:38
breadcrookalrady checked volume12:38
qweqwon the software mixer12:38
qweqw?12:38
hypnoChoubaka: \begin{tabular}[t] {|c|l|c|}!12:39
stevedubuask: for system admin guides and howto's have a look at www.tldp.org12:39
breadcrookjust using what comes with ubuntu12:39
CarlKanyone have a VoIP app recomendation - like Skpe, but not skype12:39
qweqwyou got setmixer breadcrook12:39
breadcrookif i do I don' t know about it12:40
breadcrooki didn't install it12:40
p0mCarlK: As in a SIP server, or client?12:40
qweqwthen you most likely don't have it..12:40
qweqwok, well, what;s the name of your card12:40
breadcrooki have sound juicer12:40
CarlKp0m - client i think12:40
Choubakahypno: well, at least you can be sure the table doesn't fuck up when you open it in another program :P12:40
qweqwsound juicer?12:40
breadcrookcould you tell me where to get it from12:40
Choubakaunlike word.12:40
p0mCarlK: Well Asterisk is a server, I'll find a list for you.12:40
stevedubuask: The Linux System Administrators' Guide would be a good place to start12:40
CarlKp0m - something that can make cheap land line calls12:40
breadcrookit is in Ubuntu already12:40
CarlKa list would be great12:41
p0mAhh.12:41
p0mI'm not sure about the land line calls, but I know of a couple of Voip clients.12:41
qweqwi wouldn't even know where to start12:41
p0mYou'd have to sign up for a provider for the land line calls.12:41
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mjrCarlK, gnomemeeting is nicely available in Ubuntu, but doesn't support SIP yet, only H32312:41
breadcrookreally12:41
CarlKhttp://sipphone.com/minutes/12:41
p0mCarlK: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Linux12:41
CarlKlooks like for $10 I can get a wad of minuts12:41
p0mLinphone works well. I've played around with it on my Ipaq 3970, and they're not very powerful :)12:42
qweqwi'll search for asound juicer12:42
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ubuasksteved thanks12:43
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qweqwi don't see anything like that, breadcrook12:43
TFPwhich ftp server should i install?12:43
qweqwdoes your computer have a brand name?12:43
qweqwmodel number?12:44
qweqwopenssh's ftp12:44
qweqwis good and easy12:44
qweqwopenbsd, that is12:44
p0mHeh.12:44
CarlKp0m - thanks - this site is what I was looking for12:44
TFPopenssh has an ftp server?12:44
p0mOpenbsd's ssh server is slow compared to the ones I've used in the past :)12:44
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qweqwopenbsd writes a server12:44
p0mCarlK: No problems.12:44
qweqwdid you run it on openbsd?12:44
p0mqweqw: No, on my Ubuntu box.12:45
p0mI suppose that's the problem with using the OpenBSD one on Ubuntu, not as fast as it is on OpenBSD.12:45
qweqwopenbsd is in general slower than most other open-source projects,12:45
qweqwthere's a lot of security built into their applications12:46
p0mEh, I'm just spoilt by daemons that respond almost immediately.12:46
p0mI'm used to the OpenSSH server.12:46
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qweqwyeah, i use it every day12:46
TFPso which one do you recommend now?12:46
qweqwopenbsd's ftpd12:47
qweqwmodified generic ftpd12:47
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p0mTFP: Go with the OpenBSD one, I'm not sure how well my other choice runs with ubuntu.12:47
TFPhow is it called?12:47
p0mqweqw: You wouldn't happen to know of a vnc server that actually reads a "vncrc" style file from ~/.vnc instead of /etc/X11/Xsession would you?12:48
p0mI'm trying to run a lighter gui over VNC than my gnome desktop.12:48
p0mTFP: Just look under synaptic for "FTP"12:48
p0mThere should be one where hte description mentions that it is the OpenBSD one.12:49
qweqwnot that i know of12:49
p0mDarn.12:49
p0mThe tightvnc rpm I used on FC3 did that, however none of the VNC debs support it.12:49
p0mI'll try to figure it out anyhow.12:50
qweqwon mine, i just make that file in /etc/X11 include one in my home directory.12:50
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p0mMaybe write a howto.12:50
qweqwit's very simple..12:50
p0mI normally run openbox + chameleon + perlpanel. Makes for a lighter display over VNC.12:50
qweqwi took too much X last night, so i'm really really slow12:51
TFPi can't find it12:51
qweqwoftpd12:51
qweqw?12:51
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qweqwalright then12:52
karlhmm ok, so I've built my own mplayer, but I don't get any sound12:52
qweqwok..12:53
qweqwp0m, all you have to do is make sure the file in your home directory is executable12:53
qweqwif not, chmod +x file12:54
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p0mHmm.12:54
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qweqwput exec /path/to/file in Xsession12:54
qweqwnear where it initializes variables12:54
p0mSo I just copy the /etc/X11/Xsession file to home, modify it to run the other programs?12:55
qweqwyeah12:55
qweqwyou can delete the contents of X11, but leave a backup12:55
p0mWould be nice if /etx/X11/Xsession actually contained some exec listings :)12:55
karlwhat did I misconfigure for mplayer to have disabled the alsa and esd output audio drivers?12:55
p0mBut I'll figure it out.12:55
qweqwer.. Xsession12:55
karlit only included oss, and I think that's why I don't have any sound.12:56
HrdwrBoBkarl: mplayer -ao esd12:56
HrdwrBoBkarl: mplayer -ao alsa12:56
Laubzegahi. where should I get mplayer for ubuntu?12:56
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HrdwrBoBthose will give you the other outputs12:56
qweqwit might.. VNC is kind of hard to get working on linux12:56
HrdwrBoBthere is also a default set in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf12:56
HrdwrBoBqweqw: you mean apt-get install vlc doesn't work? :)12:56
karlwell, this was a tthe configure stage, it didn't include them.12:56
qweqwit works12:56
p0mVNC works fine now, it's just a matter of tweaking what runs for me.12:56
qweqwwell, by following my advice you would get nothing..12:57
karlso no, -ao esd or alsa don't give me any sound :)12:57
qweqwwhat does it matter if it's in /etc/X11 or not?12:57
qweqwjust curious12:57
CarlKwhy vnc and not X over ssh?12:57
p0mI don't think so.12:57
karlvnc is a lot more portable12:57
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karlyou don't need to have an x server locally12:58
qweqwyes you do12:58
CarlKlol12:58
p0mvnc.conf seems to support changing the particular file to read for exec.12:58
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CarlKthat makes some sense12:58
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karlI mean locally, where you're trying to get to the session from.12:58
p0mI'll tinker with that and let you know what I get.12:58
CarlKthat = karl's comments12:58
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karlof course you need an xserver at one point.12:58
qweqwgood luck..12:58
karlbut with x over ssh, yo uneed x at both ends.12:58
karlwith vnc you can have whatever you like at each end.12:59
CarlKyou don't need X for win side ;)12:59
Ed_Geinurgent help needed12:59
p0mkarl: And if the other machine is using windows, you'll need an ssh client and an X server.12:59
p0mAnd X servers are few and far between for Windows :)12:59
karlp0m: I know, that's why I was saying vnc is more portable :)12:59
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karlyou may have meant for that to be aimed at someone else :)12:59
p0mI'm just supporting your argument :)12:59
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qweqwi couldn't find a single decent Xfree86 implementation for windows12:59
CarlKI got x.org on cygwin working, but I was more thingking for Linux on both sides01:00
nopealooking for some advice on a good PHP editor - any suggestions?01:00
karlcarlk: x over ssh is a lot more secure,01:00
karlbut I'd still go for vnc anyday.01:00
HrdwrBoBvnc is portable01:00
HrdwrBoBbut slow01:00
p0mqweqw: WinAXE is allright. It's free, but you can only do 30 minute long sessions before you have to restart the x server.01:00
HrdwrBoBincredibly so01:00
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karlI see too many people asking "how do I do this again? -L blah:port -X -g hatehatehhate!"01:00
Ed_GeinI just woke up to and there are 2 widgets open(?) I says couldn't grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session. The 2nd is changing user enter your password to run /usr/binfirestarter. Any help?01:01
karlvnc doesn't have to be slow.01:01
qweqwi might check that out..01:01
karlI used to use a vnc session as my primary work environement every day at work.01:01
karlplenty fast enough.01:01
karlfvwm2, and the machine was only a building or two away01:01
CarlKassuming Linux on both sides, 500k (dsl, slow cable) connection - how is the performace of vnc compare to X over ssh?01:01
qweqwthere's is a barely noticeable lag on my VNC01:01
qweqwtightvnc.01:01
qweqwthe original vnc is slow as hell01:01
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Ed_GeinI just woke up to and there are 2 widgets open(?) the first says couldn't grab your mouse. A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session. The 2nd is changing user enter your password to run /usr/bin/firestarter. Any help?01:03
qweqwuhh..01:03
p0mEd_Gein: The second one sounds like you've tried to run Firestarter, which is a front end for your firewall (iptables)01:03
karlso anyone know how to tell mplayer to enable esd/alsa at the ./configure stage?01:03
qweqwwhat are you using, Ed_Gein ?01:03
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Ed_Geinubuntu firestarter was running when I went to slpeep01:04
CarlKkarl - you aren't karl D in FL, are you?01:04
karlno, karlp in .is01:04
karlsif you'd live in fl01:05
topylikarl: try ./configure --help01:05
CarlKsif?01:05
p0mCarlK: sif = "As If"01:05
CarlKfl is a nice place to visit, but too hot, stcky and bugs01:05
CarlKlol01:06
CarlKexacty01:06
p0mI prefer AU over fl.01:06
karltopyli: there's only --disable-alsa and --disable-esd.01:06
TFPhow do i get webmin to work? i get an error "Error - Access denied for 192.168.0.130"01:06
karlfla wasn't even a nice place to visit in my opinion.01:06
TFPi just installed it01:06
karl.au is great too.01:06
CarlKI 'think' if there is --disable-X, there will be --enable-X01:06
p0m.au is horrible in the summer. And it is horrible here right now, lots of rain and storms.01:07
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CarlKp0m - at least the world dosn't laugh at you ;)01:07
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maltjewhere are the channels?01:07
p0mActually, they do, but eh.01:08
karlpom: where in .au are you?01:08
karlno rain at all in qld.01:08
CarlKkarl - #mplayer is a good place01:08
maltjehow can I chance?01:08
p0mkarl: You're kidding me, right? North brisbane's been getting blasted with rain today.01:08
Ed_Geinany help?01:08
topylikarl: so, the defaults should be to enable them. i take it they aren't enabled though?01:08
nopeais there an SSH client in Ubuntu?01:09
karltoday maybe,01:09
CarlKkarl - to see what you got: mplayer -ao help01:09
karlbut not all of summer01:09
CarlKnopea - ssh01:09
p0mEd_Gein: From what I can tell, there shouldn't be anything to worry about. The second one sounds familiar, and the first error sounds like your keyboard/mouse popped out.01:09
karltopyli: no, --enable-alsa/esd has now enabled esd, and I'm rebuilding, but it says no alsa.01:09
maltjeanyone uses bittornado?01:09
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maltjeI installed it using synaptic,but I can't find it01:10
p0mmaltje: Try "Run Command" and then typing it in there.01:11
Ed_Geinp0m: even with the changing user thing? There's only one user account on this system.01:11
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p0mEd_Gein: Firestarter usually has to be run as Root, to be able to interface with iptables, so I'm guessing it was sudo'ing to root.01:11
Ed_Geinwhy would it restart on its own?01:12
maltjewon't work01:12
p0mEd_Gein: Just to be sure, check your users config, to see if there are any other users.01:12
maltjehave to tell that I'm a newbie01:12
p0mEd_Gein: Not sure, there are sometimes random errors that occur.01:12
p0mAnyhow, I've got to head off now.01:12
maltjewhen I do "where is" bittornado I only get the word "bittornado" back01:12
p0mGood luck Ed_Gein01:13
topylikarl: hm. perhaps if you use esd it will use alsa for mplayer too? i don't know01:13
p0mmaltje: Try find / -name bittorn*01:13
p0mIt should list everywhere it finds a match.01:13
Ed_GeinP0m /etc/where do I find users01:13
karltopyli: I'll let you know when it finishes building again :)01:13
p0mEd_Gein: /etc/passwd01:14
maltjebittorent does not exist01:14
karlhmm, I think I must have been missing alsadev and esddev01:14
maltjestarnge01:14
karlesd.h not found.01:14
maltjestrange01:14
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p0mEd_Gein: Either that, or the built in user config tools work fine.01:14
p0mAnyhow, zzzzz.01:14
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Ed_Geinnot sure what I should be looking for in here01:15
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karlyep, libasound2-dev and libesd0-dev and now it detects alsa and esd01:16
slask3nWhat can it be that makes my internetocnnection unavailable.. it just wont connect suddenly, but the network and everything looks fine... i can be surfing and suddenly it cant "talk" with the internet.. :s I have lost the connection 4 times today already, 3 times the last 2 hours... :s01:17
liablemaltje: try 'dpkg -L bittornado'01:17
topylikarl: happy mplaying :)01:19
karlhow can I find out the complete name of a package>01:20
karldpkg -l shows the truncated name01:20
karland I cant' work out what the full name is to remove it with01:20
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liablekarl: dpkg -l columns=200 or some such01:20
slask3nPlease answer! Its urgent i dont know when i loose connection again...   What can it be that makes my internetocnnection unavailable.. it just wont connect suddenly, but the network and everything looks fine... i can be surfing and suddenly it cant "talk" with the internet.. :s I have lost the connection 4 times today already, 3 times the last 2 hours... :s01:20
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mpqI did that thing that's supposed to fix the sound in flash01:21
maltjethat gives a lot of things on the screen01:21
mpqit sort of worked but now the sound lags01:21
mpqit plays after it's supposed to01:21
maltje/usr/......01:21
nopeaok somebody has got to know a good PHP editor :)01:22
Ed_Geinin etc/passwd I have the following entry is this normal? 'nobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/nonexistent:/bin/bash"01:22
liablemaltje: normally /usr/sbin or /usr/bin01:22
maltje/usr/bin/btcompletedir.bittornado01:23
maltje/usr/bin/btcopyannounce01:23
maltje/usr/bin/btdownloadcurses.bittornado01:23
maltje/usr/bin/btdownloadheadless.bittornado01:23
maltje/usr/bin/btlaunchmany.bittornado01:23
maltje/usr/bin/btlaunchmanycurses.bittornado01:23
maltje/usr/bin/btmakemetafile.bittornado01:23
maltje/usr/bin/btreannounce.bittornado01:23
maltje/usr/bin/btrename.bittornado01:23
maltje/usr/bin/btsethttpseeds01:23
maltje/usr/bin/btshowmetainfo.bittornado01:23
maltje/usr/bin/bttrack.bittornado01:23
karlliable: you have to actually resize your term, or export the columns I think, there's no option to pass in :)01:23
maltjethats some lines01:23
topyliaargh! stop it01:23
topyliEd_Gein: yes01:24
karlahh, sound01:24
karlno of course, I wish I hadn't built alsa as well.01:24
karlbecause it's defaulting to alsa, which doesn't work :)01:24
karlbut -ao esd does.01:25
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mpqwhat is esd?01:25
qweqwsound daemon01:25
mjrit's a sound daemon that serves the low-level sound device to multiple clients01:25
mjroptionally over the network01:25
qweqwit does that, yeah01:26
mpqflash still isn't working right01:26
topylimpq: the question is: WHY is esd :)01:26
mpqthere's sound now but it's late01:26
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karlwell, all that to watch what turns out to be a fairly boring .wmv01:27
qweqwahh..01:27
topyliheh01:27
qweqwi get it now.01:27
qweqwthe xchat colors are horrible01:28
mpqI like xchat colors01:28
liablemaltje: have you installed bitornado-gui01:28
keikozqweqw that's sure01:28
keikozmaybee some themes on the net01:29
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qweqwyeah..01:30
qweqwmight go back to irssi01:30
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davegahanI crashed while booting into GNOME, my whole system froze, could only enter GNOME after choosing "fail-safe" from the session manager01:31
davegahanwhat do I do now01:31
goldfishirssi !01:31
maltjeno ,only tornado01:31
davegahanfail-safe disables all startup scripts01:31
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davegahananyone that can advise ?01:32
maltjebbittornado-gui wasn't in synaptic01:32
liablemaltje: should be01:32
maltjeyes indeed01:32
maltjemy mistake01:33
maltjeit is also installed01:33
karlis there a mplayer firefox plugin?01:33
karlso I can watch wmv on pages, instead of having to download htem to watch them?01:33
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liablemaltje: you dont have a menu tab for it? what are you trying to do anyway?01:33
maltjestrange,everything else works fine01:34
mpqflash is still screwed up01:34
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maltjewhen I go into the "startmenu" i go to "internet"01:34
qweqwadobe better come out with a 64 bit version of flash01:34
maltjeevery program like limewire and azureus are there01:35
maltjebut NO bittornado01:35
liablemaltje: try updating your menu01:35
maltjeHave I got to start ubuntu again?01:35
mjrhmm, now that flash has switched owners, might be a time to plug freeing the flash viewer to the new owner01:35
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maltjekillall gname.....?????01:36
maltjeI did that01:36
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maltjegnome....01:36
qweqwmaltje, you should never have to restart it unless you are making changes to the kernel..01:36
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karl(or the kernel goes boom! like mine)01:36
slask3nPlease answer! Its urgent i dont know when i loose connection again...   What can it be that makes my internetocnnection unavailable.. it just wont connect suddenly, but the network and everything looks fine... i can be surfing and suddenly it cant "talk" with the internet.. :s I have lost the connection 4 times today already, 3 times the last 2 hours... :s01:36
qweqwor in the event of a kernel panic01:36
liablemaltje: isnt there a menu updating thing in gnome?01:36
qweqw;001:36
karlauto text sucks slask01:36
karland it's probably not a linux problem01:37
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qweqwmaltje,01:37
maltjedon't know01:37
qweqwer..01:37
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slask3nkarl, auto text?01:37
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maltjeyes qweqw01:37
davegahananyone here with a good knowledge of GNOME - my system crashes while botting into GNOME01:37
qweqwi had a solution for you01:38
qweqwbut then i forgot it01:38
maltjeoeps01:38
karlthat was the exact same message you posted 15 minutes ago01:38
qweqwoh yeah01:38
qweqwopen a terminal window01:38
davegahanfailsafe session gets me into GNOME, where do i find the startup scripts ?01:38
maltjey01:38
slask3nkarl, and yes it is! my other computer works fine, but this ones disconnects... :s i need to reboot and then its working fine again...01:38
qweqwtype at the prompt: whereis bttornada01:38
qweqwo01:38
qweqwat the end, instead of a01:38
maltjedone that01:38
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qweqwoh yeah?01:38
qweqwbefore just now?01:39
maltjeit gives01:39
maltjebittornado:01:39
scizzodavegahan: look for errors in .xsession-errors or something01:39
maltjethats all01:39
qweqwtype in bttornado instead01:39
maltjebtornado:01:40
topylidavegahan: you could creating another user and see if gnome works for it. if so, then it's your settings that's to blame01:40
qweqwtwo ts01:40
qweqwbttornado01:40
maltjebttornado:01:40
maltjesorry01:40
qweqwsudo updatedb01:40
maltjeyes01:40
qweqwyou done that yet?01:40
slask3nkarl, do you know what it can be, or are you just complaining becouse people use the channel for what its made for?01:40
maltjeyep01:40
qweqwdamn.01:40
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liablemaltje: 'ls /usr/bin | grep bit*'01:40
maltjenot the update01:40
maltjei try it01:40
maltjeone moment01:40
qweqwok01:40
karli don't know what your problem is, it's unlikely that anyone else will from the information you've given, and I also object to you using the exact same text again.01:41
goldfishhi guys, any time i try to run cd player, and rhythmbox is asks me to run gst-register, and when i run that i get command not found :/01:41
maltjehes updating now01:41
qweqwit might take awhile if you've got a lot of files01:41
maltjetakes a time01:41
qweqwi'm about to go get some pepsi01:41
topylinaah, it's ok to repeat a question once in a while to see if experts have gathered around. but of course the question must be sane01:41
qweqwlocate bt, locate bitt, locate tornado01:42
qweqwtry those to start out with01:42
maltjeok its done01:42
topylilike, has anybody gotten p3nfs to work properly? i've been asking that for months :)01:42
karlbut are you going to ask again in 15minutes?01:42
davegahantopyli, where do I find my startup scripts - settings ?01:43
maltjehe found a lot of bittornado files01:43
maltje@liable just type that in the console???01:43
liablemaltje:yes01:43
qweqwwhat are the paths01:44
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yfirkarl, chill out01:44
maltjebtcompletedir.bittornado01:44
maltjebtcompletedir.bittorrent01:44
maltjebtcompletedirgui.bittornado01:44
maltjebtdownloadcurses.bittornado01:44
maltjebtdownloadcurses.bittorrent01:44
maltjebtdownloadgui.bittornado01:44
maltjebtdownloadheadless.bittornado01:44
maltjebtdownloadheadless.bittorrent01:44
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maltjebtlaunchmany.bittornado01:44
qweqwthere it is01:45
maltjebtlaunchmany.bittorrent01:45
maltjebtlaunchmanycurses.bittornado01:45
maltjebtlaunchmanycurses.bittorrent01:45
maltjebtmakemetafile.bittornado01:45
maltjebtmakemetafile.bittorrent01:45
maltjebtreannounce.bittornado01:45
maltjebtreannounce.bittorrent01:45
maltjebtrename.bittornado01:45
maltjebtrename.bittorrent01:45
maltjebtshowmetainfo.bittornado01:45
Burgundaviamaltje, ahh, please don't flood01:45
maltjebtshowmetainfo.bittorrent01:45
maltjebttrack.bittornado01:45
maltjebttrack.bittorrent01:45
topylidavegahan: what's failing is probably gnome-session. i'm not sure where its settings live. does gnome work for a virgin user?01:45
slask3nkarl, i need answer, so i probably will ask again.. the fact that i use the same text 2 times i undestand, but i dont wanted to write it all again.. but i do rewrite it, and i dont use any autotext either...01:45
maltjefribidi01:45
goldfishoh my god.01:45
maltjegnome-accessibility-keyboard-properties01:45
maltjegnome-keybinding-properties01:45
maltjexpdf.bin01:45
topylimaltje: please01:45
maltjethat's what I get01:45
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maltje/usr/share and /usr/bin01:45
maltjesorry topyli01:45
topylikarl: i'll ask next week or so :)01:45
davegahanGNOME works fail-safe, thats without any startup script running01:45
maltjewon't happen again01:45
qweqwwhereis btdownloadcurses.bittornado01:45
yfirmaltje: can you do that in #flood next time01:45
karlbtdownloadgui.bittornado try that one01:45
qweqwyou've got them installed, at least01:46
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qweqwwhereis btdownload.bittornado01:46
maltjeyfir that I do not understand01:46
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topylimaltje: just a hint: use #flood. it's made for flooding :)01:46
qweqwwhereis btdownloadgui.bittornado01:46
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bezibaerchenhow do i change default encoding from utf-8 to iso-8859-15?01:46
amichaican someone tell me if kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde or if its a total different setup, because it seems to work differently than ubuntu01:46
karlbezi: you don't want to! make your friends use utf8 as well!01:46
qweqwtype that, maltje.. remember the path, in case you want to put a launcher on your desktop01:46
yfirmaltje: it's a channel for making posts like yours01:47
bezibaerchenkarl: i WANT to ;-)01:47
snaderbezibaerchen: dpkg-reconfigure locales01:47
bezibaerchensnader: thx01:47
karlwell, I'm not helping then :) (and I don't really know how to)01:47
topylikarl: utf-8 will save the children of the world, but for now much of the internet still don't use it01:47
maltje/usr/bin/.....01:47
maltjethere are the files01:47
maltjeshit I have to go to work in 5 min.01:48
karltopyli: yes yes I know, but if we all say, not now, it will never happen01:48
qweqwbtdownloadgui.bittornado01:48
qweqwis the file you want01:48
topylikarl: exactly01:48
qweqwwork!01:48
qweqwwork sucks01:48
maltjeI know01:48
qweqwi have go in an hour01:48
maltjebut I need the money01:48
topylikarl: it's a big problem on finnish channels and elsewhere where people actually use non-ascii characters01:48
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maltjewhat have I got to do with the file??01:48
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qweqwi suppose you could create a launcher somewhere on your desktop01:49
karltopyli: I use non english characters every day, I'm aware of this :)01:49
qweqwfor easy clicking01:49
qweqwthen01:49
bezibaercheni prefer utf8, but the majority doesnt use it, and i dont like boxes instead of german "Umlauten"01:49
karlit's a problem in irc, and things that don't have encoding support,01:49
bezibaerchen;-)01:49
topylikarl: oh yeah, i should pay attention to your nick :)01:49
karlI have xchat set to use latin1 where I need it.01:49
liablemaltje: just type 'usr/bin/btdownloadgui.bittornado'    what happens01:49
karlbut use utf8 for things by default01:49
qweqwtry to download a .torrent file from your web-browser.. associate btdownloadgui.bittornado with files that end in torrent01:49
topylikarl: same here01:49
karlso far chat has been the only place I need it.01:49
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slask3nkarl: do you know what information i need to specify then? i was running GAIM, and Firefox with 3 tabs.. and was surfing around when the computer couldnt connect to the server... i just get timeout on everything i do.. it comes right out of the blue...just like somebodsy disconnected the cable but the cable isnt touched... and ubuntu seems to be the exactly same as before, the network connections are working and all, it just cant "talk" w01:50
slask3nith the internet... any ideas?01:50
qweqwother than that, maltje .. nothing more to say01:50
maltjeOKIDOKI I think its working01:50
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maltjeI got something on my screen now01:50
topylikarl: even on irc, i actually need latin1 only on ircnet, where most of the finnish channels are01:50
qweqwjust remember the path to the bittorent gui..01:50
maltjethis evening I gonna test it01:50
qweqw /usr/bin , in this case01:51
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Diablo-D3hey guys01:51
maltjebut it looks like azureus is it the same??01:51
karlyeah, freenode is all happy and utf isn't it?01:51
fragspazwhere can i get some apt-get repositories01:51
liablemaltje: ok, follow qweqw advice and associate .torrents with that in your browser01:51
karlor at least osme channels are.01:51
fragspazfor enlightenment?01:51
topylii guess01:51
Diablo-D3does ubuntu use grub by default?01:51
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yfirmaltje: you don't need to run a gui for bittornado. just click on a .torrent in your browser and btdownload should take over01:51
maltjebut I also got azureus01:51
fragspazwhere can i get some apt-get repositories for enlightenment?01:51
maltjeso the 2 progs are gonna open not??01:52
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fragspazany one know?01:52
qweqwthey aren't in universe?01:52
karlthey are for me.01:53
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yfirfragspaz: enable universe/multiverse01:53
maltjethnx for everything01:53
maltjegottogo01:53
qweqwsee ya01:54
maltjeuntil this evening01:54
bezibaerchenhmm01:54
bezibaerchenstill got utf-8 as default in my terminal :-/01:54
bezibaerchenany hints?01:54
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com64hi01:55
fragspazyfir: what doe that mean?01:55
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goldfishAnyone here ever use workbone?01:55
com64could anyone help me on some matter at ubuntu ?01:55
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looksaushi all, I have a problem with OOo on an up-to-date hoary system01:55
DanglyBitsi have an extra computer that i want to use as development only...how do i upgrade to breezy badger from Hoary?01:55
looksauseverywhare I type, no problem entering the "" character, except from OpenOffice.org01:56
Diablo-D3change your sources.list01:56
goldfishcom64: ask away im sure someone can help01:56
pointwoodwhat is the best CD ripper program=01:56
pointwood* ?01:56
Diablo-D3DanglyBits: change your sources.list01:56
Diablo-D3DanglyBits: from hoary to breezy01:56
DanglyBitschange source.list to what?01:56
looksausI can paste an "" into openoffice though01:56
DanglyBitsjust use the words breezy everwhere hoary is?01:57
Diablo-D3yup01:57
looksausDanglyBits, change the references to hoary into breezy, yes01:57
fragspazwhere is 'universe/multiverse''01:57
karlhmm, I type  my special chars into oowriter the same way I type them into terminals or anywhere else.01:57
com64have adsl modem connecting internet with ethernet card davicom 9102/a but its not working with dhclient not getting modem page from browser :(01:57
Diablo-D3DanglyBits: and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade01:57
karlsorry looksaus :(01:57
syn-ackAre you sure you want to go to Breezy?01:57
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Diablo-D3DanglyBits: btw, breezy is known to be unstable atm01:57
Diablo-D3DanglyBits: more than it should be, I mean01:57
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syn-ackI wouldnt suggest it unless you know what you're doing01:57
looksausDanglyBits, it's still a little rough around the edges, yes01:57
megamindwhat is alternate command for ipconfig in ubuntoo ?01:57
Diablo-D3megamind: what is ubuntoo?01:58
yfirfragspaz: please read this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto01:58
syn-ackifconfig01:58
megamindlinux01:58
looksausif you don't know how to update the sources list, this will probably do more bad than good01:58
Diablo-D3megamind: linux is just a kernel.01:58
megamindthanks01:58
com64tryed all thing but not getting ip adress of modem01:58
fragspazthanks yfir01:58
com64thats why cant configure my username and etc. from modem page01:58
goldfishPlease link /dev/cdrom to your CDROM device before running workbone.01:58
goldfishhow would i do that?01:58
Diablo-D3goldfish: its probably already done for you01:59
goldfishoh right01:59
goldfishthanks01:59
DanglyBitsshould i just add all of the breezy lines lin osurce.list or convert the hoary ones there to breezy?01:59
yfirfragspaz: after you've done that and enabled the universe and multiverse repositories, update your package lists with synaptic or apt, and you'll be able to find the enlightenment packages01:59
Diablo-D3goldfish: ls -al /dev/cdrom should point at your first cdrom drive01:59
yfir*apt-get, sorry01:59
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DanglyBitsshould i just add all of the breezy lines in source.list or convert the hoary ones there to breezy?01:59
goldfishNo such file or directory.01:59
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looksausso, anyone about my problem with "" in OOo? or a pointer to where I should start looking?02:00
fragspazyfir, thanks02:00
syn-ackDanglyBits: DONT DO IT UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING!02:00
syn-ack</rant>02:00
Diablo-D3yeah, listen to syn-ack02:00
syn-ackDanglyBits: Im still tracking bugs in Breezy down02:00
CarlKDanglyBits, no.02:00
slask3nkarl: not for nagging, but can you please help me? or any ideas of what can do this?02:01
karlumm, no?02:01
Diablo-D3syn-ack: heh, I'm still trying to figure out how to file bugs for universe packages02:01
yfirDanglyBits: unless you are a tester, wait a few months. but if you want to test breezy and don't mind a possibly unstable system, knock yourself out02:01
karlI don't know, and there's 502 other peopl here02:01
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Diablo-D3507 other people, karl02:02
karlI was showing 505 total at the time :)02:02
goldfishDiablo-D3: ls: /dev/cdrom: No such file or directory02:02
goldfishany ideas? :/02:02
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yfirgoldfish: try hdc02:02
syn-ackDiablo-D3: Heh, Ive going some things here like libaspell that Im tracking... broke a few things like Pan and Bluefish so far02:02
Diablo-D3goldfish: what device is your cdrom? /dev/hdc?02:03
goldfishbrw-rw----  1 root cdrom 22, 0 2005-04-27 02:59 /dev/hdc02:03
goldfishYEP02:03
goldfishwoops.02:03
goldfishAye, hdc.02:03
Diablo-D3sudo ln -s /dev/hdc/ /dev/cdrom/02:03
Diablo-D3err02:03
Diablo-D3sudo ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom02:03
goldfishcool, thanks02:03
com64have davicom ethnernet card connecting internet through adsl modem pikatel quarlet ... but when i try dhclient eth0 it should get the modem configure page ip adresses at least... but its not working thats why not getting the modem configure page and not getting any ip adresses ... i tryed to give it manually with ifconfig ... but its does not worked also ... could some one tell me what i should  to do on that matter02:04
syn-ackAlso, I wish the upstream devs would fix the sk98lin module already02:04
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syndhow do i set ndiswrapper to load upon boot?02:05
Quazionwhats the multiseat during install of ubuntu ? i just got a multiseat error02:05
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megamindwhere can i find wvdial.conf02:05
megamindcan some one plz guide me that where can i find wvdial.conf02:06
MwnciI have just swapped from debian to ubuntu but during setup it never requested a root password. it did ask for a normal user. is there a default password for root I have to change or have I missed the screen?02:06
BurgundaviaMwnci, Ubuntu uses sudo by default for everthing02:07
Diablo-D3syn-ack: so, how the hell do I file bugs for universe packages?02:07
syn-ackMwnci: Thats because Ubuntu doesnt use root by defualt02:07
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BurgundaviaMwnci, see www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo02:07
Diablo-D3ubuntu doesnt even have root by default, does it/02:07
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BurgundaviaDiablo-D3, you need malone --> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/+bugs02:07
syn-ackDiablo-D3: it does... automagically scrambled02:08
yfirmegamind: probably /etc/wvdial.conf unless it hasn't been created yet02:08
qweqwsudo bash02:08
Burgundaviathere is no root password, which makes it off02:08
qweqwfor a root shell02:08
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yfirsudo -s02:08
com64any1 here is experienced adsl modems on ubuntu ever ?02:08
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lauei have cpu frequency scaling running on an athlon k7, but now i want to change the governor automatically at boot02:08
laueanyone know how?02:08
qweqwthe governor?02:09
laueqweqw: yes, the governor: ondemand, performance, powersave or userspace02:09
syn-ackWow, I didnt even know about lauchpad.02:09
Diablo-D3syn-ack: ooh02:09
Diablo-D3yes, wtf is launchpad02:09
Diablo-D3bugzilla apparently points there now02:09
Mwncithanks  ill use sudo then :)02:09
megamindnops can not find wvmdial.conf in /etc/ ! ?02:09
jsgotangcoDiablo-D3, launchpad is the future man02:09
Diablo-D3btw, for the record, my machine is a debian machine upgraded to ubuntu02:10
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bezibaerchenasking again: anyone any ideas regarding my locale-problem?02:10
yfirbezibaerchen: what is your locale problem?02:10
bezibaerchenyfir: did a dpkg-reconfigure locale-gen and deselected any utf-8 stuff. but if i open a console, default is still utf-8 and i need to switch to iso manually02:11
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syndhow do i set ndiswrapper to load upon boot?02:12
Diablo-D3bezibaerchen: you should always be using utf8 anyhow02:12
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bezibaerchenDiablo-D3: no flaming now, i want iso ;-)02:12
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Diablo-D3unicode is the future!02:12
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bezibaerchenfuture perhaps, but not presence, and thats the problem02:13
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Diablo-D3I dunno, I've been doing the unicode dance for years now02:13
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bezibaerchenyfir: ideas?02:14
Diablo-D3and it doesnt seem to have borken anything yet02:14
yfirbezibaerchen: not sure. you could try the package 'localconf'02:14
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bezibaerchenDiablo-D3: i am chatting via screen and irssi on a remote host. if i use utf-8, german umlauts etc are recked. so i NEED iso02:14
yfirbezibaerchen: but if dpkg-recongifure locales doesn't work, i'm not certain localconf would either. worth a try perhaps02:14
maswanDiablo-D3: Yes, but you are not likely to depend on interacting in a language requiring iso.02:14
Diablo-D3maswan: nope ;)02:14
qweqwwtf, i've never heard of any computer device that is called a governor02:15
Diablo-D3anyhow, how the hell do I use launchpad?02:15
mjrbezibaerchen, screen can convert a single window's charset02:15
com64could not get help but thank ... good luck all02:15
mjr^A:utf8 off turns utf-8 off for a window02:15
bezibaerchenmjr: the problem is the console, not screen ;-)02:15
syn-ackDiablo-D3: just check it out.. its like anyother bugzilla02:15
mjrbezibaerchen, nah, you're just solving the problem from the wrong place :02:15
yfirso, how does one configure gtk themes without gnome?02:16
Diablo-D3well, mainly, how do I file a bug on a package that doesnt exist yet?02:16
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Diablo-D3yfir: install just gnome-control-center02:16
yfirDiablo-D3: ok... was trying to avoid that, but if it's the only way...02:16
bezibaerchenyfir: unknown command utf-802:16
bezibaerchenmjr: i mean ;-)02:16
Diablo-D3yfir: well, theres other methods, but due to braindamage in both gtk and gnome, it doesnt work well02:16
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Diablo-D3for the record, I hate gnome.02:17
yfirDiablo-D3: thanks. i guess all i needed to know was whether there is another (simple) way besides gnome-control-center.02:17
yfirI'm trying to remove all the gnomes...02:17
Diablo-D3I actually wish kcontrol had a gtk/gnome theme setting app02:17
mjrbezibaerchen, without the dash02:17
Diablo-D3it'd solve so many problems02:18
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glassorhey guys, iv'e got sound in general, but  when try to play an mp3 with xmms/bmp the player freezes... any idea whats wrong ?02:18
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XandriXmako, u there ???02:18
syndglassor: set the I/O prefs02:18
yfirglassor: make sure that xmms is configured to use esd rather than alsa/oss02:19
pointwoodanyone knows if it is possible to get Grib to add meta tags to FLAC encoded files?02:19
syndglassor: use eSound output in the I/O prefs02:19
bezibaerchenmjr: no changes02:19
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yfirglassor: i think xmms prefs refer to it as esound, but if not then esd02:20
syn-ackWTF are you people saying to use OSS? xmms has the direct ALSA plugin02:20
syndi said to use esound02:20
syn-ackesd is evil02:20
yfirsyn-ack: but if glassor's system uses esd (like default ubuntu does) then xmms won't work with alsa02:20
Diablo-D3esd _is_ evil02:20
syndtrue02:20
karlmaybe it is, but that's how ubuntu is set up by default02:20
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syn-ackyfir: Mine does.02:20
mjrbezibaerchen, well, it might be that your screen is not in a unicode mode to start with (-U does the trick, as does the right locale)02:20
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Diablo-D3I'd like to mention that... well... everything sucks02:20
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pointwoodnm02:21
Diablo-D3gnome sucks for being dependant on esd02:21
yfirsyn-ack: you've disabled esd probably (?)02:21
mjrbezibaerchen, but as a quick fix you can do :utf8 off on (the latter on is for the session)02:21
Diablo-D3kde sucks for being dependant on esound02:21
syn-ackubuntu uses gstreamer by default.02:21
syndhow do i have DMA set to ON for my cdrw drive upon boot02:21
Diablo-D3err02:21
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Diablo-D3I mean02:21
syn-ackKDE uses aRts02:21
Diablo-D3artsd02:21
yfirsyn-ack: gstreamer is not equivalent to esd02:21
icebalmDiablo-D3: urmom sucks for being dependant on crack02:21
qweqwthe only way to install ubuntu is "server"02:21
bezibaerchenmjr: also tried that, but it doesnt help02:21
qweqwthen work your way from there02:21
Diablo-D3and alsa sucks for not having any multiplexer built in by default02:22
qweqwall those unnecessary packages are.. unnecessary02:22
Diablo-D3and linux 2.6 sucks for still having oss in the kernel source and allowing people to compile it and use it02:22
syndhow do i have DMA set to ON for my cdrw drive upon boot02:22
syn-ackyfir: Yeah, its only the overlaying API that hooks into alsa02:22
qweqwit's deprecated, Diablo-D302:22
Diablo-D3qweqw: yes, Linus keeps saying that02:22
Diablo-D3yet people keep using it02:22
syn-ackDiablo-D3: No it doesnt... OSS is only emulated in 2.602:23
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Diablo-D3syn-ack: look again, you can build oss drivers in 2.6.02:23
icebalmsyn-ack: no, it's available02:23
yfirsyn-ack: esd is an audio server02:23
qweqwOSS will be taken out when all other programs have been updated, presumably02:23
syn-acktrue...02:23
Diablo-D3there are no oss programs left, qweqw02:23
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syn-ackDiablo-D3: xmms. :)02:23
Diablo-D3xmms can use alsa02:24
qweqwthere are02:24
Diablo-D3qweqw: nothing that doesnt work with alsa' oss emu02:24
syn-ackhell its still built on GTk 1.202:24
Diablo-D3see, I dont mind oss emu02:24
dcravensynd: in /etc/hdparm.conf, make a section like this: /dev/hdc { dma = on }02:24
qweqwyeah, but you are the one complaining ;)02:24
Diablo-D3its just actually having oss in the kernel02:24
Diablo-D3which is evil02:24
Diablo-D3and wrong02:24
synddcraven: thanks02:24
qweqwwhy?02:24
dcravensynd: assuming the drive you want to adjust is hdc.02:24
synddcraven: that it is02:25
syn-ackDiablo-D3: My mac wont work without OSS02:25
dcravensynd: there are plenty of examples in that file.02:25
Diablo-D3sucks to be your mac.02:25
qweqweverything doesn't have to be 100% free, according to our ideals02:25
syn-ackWell, it might now... Havent upgraded the kernel in a while02:25
Diablo-D3no, but everything should be 100% unsuck02:25
yfiri beginning to get the impression that few here know what they are talking about...02:26
qweqwlol02:27
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qweqwi'm a little confused as well02:27
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hans_is there a chance that ubuntu can read compressed ntfs partitions02:27
jsgotangcoyfir, why is that you're free to correct them anyway02:27
qweqwwhere did all these lusers come from?02:27
yfirjsgotangco: yes, i'm also free to fuck off02:27
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syn-ackDiablo-D3: Then you can call ATI and tell them to open the spec so that we can have a non suck driver for my video card.02:28
Diablo-D3syn-ack: heh, dri is working on r300/400 drivers02:28
dcraveneasy now boys02:28
Diablo-D3syn-ack: quake3 already... somewhat works on them02:28
syn-ackthat will do HW acceratoion02:28
syn-ackacelleration, that is02:28
syn-ackbah.02:29
paknaaldI have a problem. I just installed ubuntu, but the resolution is wrong so my screens stay blank. I then switched to a text-interface (ctrl alt f1), but then how do i edit the resolution Ubuntu starts in?02:29
synddcraven: do you know what all i should have enabled in hdparm for my cdrw drive to work normally?02:29
megamindhow do i configure dialup on ubuntoo ?02:30
syndmegamind: System -> Admin -> Networking02:30
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karyoi02:30
karyoi02:31
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karyoi02:33
megamindsynd: system - > admin -> network ???? i didnt got ya is this the folder sequence ?02:33
karyhi02:33
syndmegamind: yes02:33
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syndmegamind: menu sequence rather02:34
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megamindi can see sys folder on root only which do not cotain admin !02:36
megamind! i m realy confused about dialer in linux adn can not find solution02:36
megamindplz guide me02:36
dcravensynd: No I don't unfortunatley, but I must say the question is a little vague.02:36
Chameleon22trying to compile tuxcards and getting this error: src/gui/cactusbar/cactus.h:27: error: forward declaration of `class Cactus', any ideas how to solve it?02:36
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dcravenmegamind: in the GNOME menus. System-->Admin-->Networking02:37
syndbrb02:37
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megamindi m using ubuntoo and i m also in gnome mode i can see applicationa dn computer menus only :(02:38
dcravenChameleon22: sounds like a code error.. Is that a new release?02:39
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Chameleon22dcraven: no02:39
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dcravenChameleon22: I'd try to install the deb that is available on thier website. Did you try that?02:40
thundrcleezehow do I mount my second hard drive?  the steps on ubuntuguide work for the first one, but not the second.02:40
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megamindis their a visual utiltiy for dialer configurations ??? plzzz02:42
thundrcleezeAnyone?  O02:42
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Blue-Omegai'm not able to mount lg GCE-8525B drive during installtion of Ubuntu 4.1002:42
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thundrcleezeI'm trying to be patient, but I'm kind of in a hurry.02:43
DelgulCan I install a 64 bit amd kernel on a 32 bit ubuntu install and stay out of trouble? I have a amd 64 of course. Will it actually improve the kernel performance?02:43
Cowlikefirst hard drive partitiion has 'a', second one is 'b' and so on02:43
Cowlikesorry... mean 1, 2, 302:44
Cowlikehda1, first partition, first disk      hdb1 first on second disk02:44
qweqwi wouldn't do that, Delgul02:44
dcravenmegamind: are you running Warty by chance?02:44
qweqwubuntu doesn't like you fucking with it's kernel.02:44
hans_is there a chance that ubuntu can read compressed ntfs partitions02:44
qweqwyou'd probably get away with it, becase amd emulates 32 bits nicely02:45
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petemchans_: what did you use to compress them?02:45
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thundrcleezeI've tried replacing hda1 with hdb1 but it says there's no such command.02:46
Blue-Omegaanybody?02:46
hans_petemc: windows ntfs partition compressed02:46
Delgulqweqw: Hmm... so if I want to run a 64 bit kernel on my 64 bit processor, this is only useful/safe if I also use 64 bit libs and apps? Just the kernel is not possible?02:46
Cowlikeare you modifying your fstab to add the new disk?02:46
NicPheman my dvd drive is fucked under linux02:46
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Cowlikeyou need a directory existing as the mount point02:46
qweqwnot exactly, Delgul02:47
NicPhow the hell did that he get there02:47
dcravenwhat's with the expletives this morning?02:47
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qweqwyou COULD concievably do that, but it would take a whole lot of searching for the answer02:47
TirnoHi, this has little to do with ubuntu.... I seem to be having trouble connecting to certain websites. How should I go about finding the culprit?=02:47
qweqwsolution02:47
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qweqwanyway, the only benefit of having a 64 bit system is that they can sometimes be faster. oh, and more ram.. so much that you'll never need it unless you want to store all your files in ram02:48
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Delgulqweqw: Too bad I cant use my hw fully, I tried the amd64 hoary, but it was a bit shaky... Well I just will have to wait until Ubuntu amd64 has matured a little I guess02:49
qweqwthe benefit of a 32 bit system is: more programs available, smaller size of binaries(faster loading), better gaming performance02:49
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Cainhi02:49
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qweqwDelgul, they do a pretty good job on the amd6402:50
syndwhen i try to burn an audio CD in GnomeBaker.. it takes a long time for it to "convert mp3 to CD audio" is there any way to speed this up?02:50
Caini like to run unbuntu on a old laptop (celeron 466, 64 RAM) is it possible?02:50
qweqwsure, Cain02:50
qweqwinstall it as a server, though02:50
syndCain: yes02:50
ChoubakaBut don't run Gnome.02:51
Cain-.-02:51
qweqwgnome desktop will be horrible on that02:51
Caini need colour things :D02:51
ChoubakaSo will KDE02:51
qweqwstart out with bare bones, apt-get the packages you want02:51
Cainand pictures02:51
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qweqwyep, get fluxbox or ion3 instead02:51
ChoubakaCain: you might try XFCE4 then.02:51
syndxfce02:51
syndor fluxbox02:51
syndCain02:51
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smouchexfce would run on that?  good deal02:51
Delgulqweqw: I am not complaining. I solved a lot of the problems by using a 32 bit chroot. But especially the alsa sound problems were bad. But then again, I had a problem with dpkg crashing during the first time install, so it might be that my base system was not fully working....02:52
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qweqwxfce4 is a log bigger than fluxbox02:52
syndwhen i try to burn an audio CD in GnomeBaker.. it takes a long time for it to "convert mp3 to CD audio" is there any way to speed this up?02:52
dcravenxfce might be a touch heavy for a 486.02:52
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alexyey02:52
smouchewhat about IceWm?02:52
Choubakadcraven: it's not a 486 :p02:52
dcravenhahaha.. I misread.02:52
Cainbtw its a sony pcg-f40002:53
Choubakathe RAM is the limiting factor.02:53
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syndCain: you ought to boost the ram to at least 12802:53
Cainperhaps i will get another ram stick02:53
syndi have GNOME running great on a P3 600Mhz w/ 128MB02:53
Cainp3 != Celeron02:54
dcravenxfce would be fine on that machine, especially with a little more ram.02:54
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dcravenCelerons are crap. That's what I have and its performance is terrible.02:54
megamindplease suggest me how do i configure dial up in ubuntu... either visual utility or weblink to study02:54
dcravenComplete garbage. Waste of money.02:54
Cain-.- i cannot choose02:55
syn-ackAthlons are the only way to go. :)02:55
dcravenCain: Me either ;)02:55
syndi have a celeron 1.7Ghz02:55
syndit gets the job done, esp with 512MB ram02:55
Cainbut how to install xfce? i gues it issn't on the cd02:55
syn-ackRatherm AMD in general02:55
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dcravensynd: this is a 2.8GHz and my Athlon 1GHz runs circles around it.02:55
syn-ackthat a Tbird 1000?02:56
Cainand i don't have an netzwork port02:56
dcravensyn-ack: yeah02:56
syndwell, there are other factors other than just MHz speed02:56
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dcravensynd: I know.. This machine has more RAM too.02:56
syn-ackdcraven: I had a Tbird 900 and I loved it. This is an XP 2000+ here02:56
dcravenNever again.02:57
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drcodedhi all02:57
syndmy G4 1Ghz iBook runs circles around my 1.8Ghz P402:57
drcodedI seccessfly install new ubuntu workstation02:57
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syn-ackdcraven: How much RAM you have in that beast?02:57
drcodedNow I plan to use somthing lite then gnome02:57
dcravenI notice it while (obviously) doing CPU intensive tasks like compiling.. It's a discrace.02:57
drcodedany recommand?02:57
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dcravensyn-ack: 512 in the T-bird.02:58
syn-acknice... had 384 in mine.02:58
drcodedany one can recommand me some lite then gnome02:58
drcodedI have p300 only02:58
synddrcoded: xfce402:58
drcodedthanx02:58
syn-ackFluxbox02:58
synddrcoded: fluxbox02:58
drcodedIt will load automticly02:58
drcodedafter I will install it?02:58
drcodedor I can replace the gnome boot with xfce?02:59
syn-ackYou can configure it to do so, yes02:59
syndyou select it in Sessions from your login screen02:59
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syndthen you make it Default02:59
drcodedk02:59
drcodedthanx02:59
SlackShrikei have a computer with a DVD+RW , CD-RW/DVD and 2 HD in RAID0 and the ubuntu-live don't boot. What i do ? Thanks!02:59
dcravendrcoded: if you use gdm to login (default), you can choose it from the Sessions button near where you type your login name.02:59
drcodedso in my login screen I can change to load xfce?02:59
Delgulqweqw: So what do I use best for my amd64 processor? A K7 kernel?02:59
dcravendrcoded: yeah03:00
drcodedthanx03:00
drcodedi WILL check it out03:00
drcodedthanx03:00
syn-ackDelgul: K803:00
dcravendrcoded: have fun03:00
drcodedmy 3 giga disk have on;y 1.5 giga left03:00
drcodedthanx03:00
Delgulsyn-ack: Heh I dont want the 64 bit thingy with my 32 bit install. I was told that this will not work (or be problematic)03:01
syndhah.03:01
syn-ackah, then go with the k7 kernel03:01
Delgulthx03:01
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occyhmm03:01
occyanyone here using UG sources.list ?03:01
syndare there better cd burning progs other than gnomebaker?03:01
occyW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90703:01
syn-ackk3b03:01
occygetting that.03:01
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linuxboysyn-ack: is k3b in main ?03:02
Delguloccy03:02
SlackShrikei have a computer with a DVD+RW , CD-RW/DVD and 2 HD in RAID0 and the ubuntu-live don't boot. What i do ? Thanks!03:02
occyDelgul:03:02
Delguloccy: That is ok03:02
syn-acklinuxboy: yes03:02
occy:D03:02
occyDelgul: how can I get rid of the error msgs?03:02
dcravenmegamind: did this help you with the dialup? --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DialupModemHowto03:02
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why-oh-whyWhat's the best way to iron trousers?03:02
Delgulcheck http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ for that03:02
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why-oh-whyTELL ME!03:03
CowlikeI prefer to iron trousers with my 3GHZ pentium laptop03:03
DelgulI just give them to my mom :-)03:03
why-oh-whycome on!!  i need tips!03:03
Xappewhy-oh-why: dpkg-reconfigure -iron trousers03:03
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syndare there better cd burning progs other than gnomebaker?03:04
why-oh-whynero03:04
Cowlikek3b is a very nice program, sync03:05
dcravensynd: graveman maybe? I dunno.03:05
syndCowlike: k3b in apt-get?03:05
syndwhy-oh-why: nero? eh?03:05
syn-acksynd: YES03:05
syn-ackI said that already.03:05
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syndsyn-ack: musta missed that03:06
SlackShrikei have a computer with a DVD+RW , CD-RW/DVD and 2 HD in RAID0 and the ubuntu-live don't boot. What i do ? Thanks!03:06
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dcravenk3b is pretty heavy in the dependancy department, but if you don't mind that.03:06
dcravenUnless you use KDE stuff already I mean.03:06
syn-ackSlackShrike: Wow, that helps alot.03:07
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syndsee i dont use kde at all..03:07
dcravenBut who the heck does that?03:07
syndi no like kde03:07
AircobraSlackShrike check in bios if it boots from either CD device at first priority03:07
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syn-ackSlackShrike: I have a 68 chevy. I put oil in it, but it still wont start.03:07
SlackShrikeAircobra: Yes03:07
SlackShrikeAircobra: only the ubuntu not boot in this PC03:07
dcravensyn-ack: now now.03:07
Aircobrahmm03:08
Aircobradoes that live cd boot on other machines ?03:08
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drcodehi all03:09
syndgrr i tried burning with GnomeBaker and it only burned 5 songs of 1303:09
drcodewhats up03:09
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drcodeI Am now in xfce03:09
drcodenice03:09
AgentMHas anybody an idea why there aren't the device icons of mounted partitions on my desktop (only in Hoary)03:09
dcravendrcode: cool.03:09
synddrcode: its nice.03:09
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AircobraSlackshire does that live cd boot on other machines ?03:09
phenhello ppl!03:10
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SlackShrikeYes03:10
AgentMI have only the icons for removable devices as cdrom or usb-disc03:10
SlackShrikeAircobra: Yes03:10
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nopeagot a question for some Linux heads ;) How can one transfer files to a remote server using the root account of the remote server?03:10
mjrscp/sftp03:11
dcravennopea: scp I guess.03:11
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AircobraSlackShrike does it skips ubuntu and boots other system or just freezes? what are the symptoms?03:11
phendoes anyone of you has got information about that special HP-Notebook-Ubuntu?03:11
jonoanyone know of any sites that give statistic info on how IT salaries have changed over the years?03:11
JurgeniAgentM: I think that is how it should be by default03:11
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nopeamjr, dcraven, cheers03:11
drcodeyes03:12
drcodecoosl03:12
drcodecool03:12
drcodewinetools come with wine install??03:12
dcravendrcode: check it's dependancies.03:12
AgentMJurgeni Really? That's a pity, because in Warty there were some icons for mounted partitions03:12
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Ravanyone have any experience on configuring Logitech mice in 5.04?03:13
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occyman03:14
occythe stuff on ubuntuguide for DVD is horked03:14
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dcravendrcode: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/otherosfs/wine03:14
JurgeniAgentM: really... I don't remember ever having other icons on desktop for mounted stuff but CDs, USB-sticks and so on03:14
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AgentMJurgeni I am sure, that I had icons for my mounted partitions under Warty, really.03:15
Jurgeniok03:15
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SlackShrikeAircobra: In process of boot have this problem: "No common CD-ROM drive was detected."03:16
fragspazhey, after i install enlightenment, how do i change shells?03:16
fragspazi want to changefrom gnome to E03:17
dcravenAgentM: you could always drag them to the Desktop from Nautilus if you wish.03:17
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SiRrUshello03:17
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occyRead error from: Error reading NAV packet.03:17
fragspazsirrus, hey, how do i use switch winmngrs/shells03:17
dcravenfragspaz: you can choose it from the Sessions button in the GDM login screen.03:17
fragspazoh yeah03:18
fragspaztahnks dcraven03:18
fragspazwhats the command though03:18
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fragspazjust for future reference03:18
dcravenfragspaz: command?03:18
Andrilhello all03:18
fragspaznvm03:18
AndrilI need help finding themes (Icons.GTK & Metacity) please03:18
dcravenAndril: gnome-look.org has some I think.03:19
AgentMacraven But that's not exactly what I want. When there are no disc-icons on my desktop, I cannot access the mounted partitions directly over gnome (open file menu etc.), only over /media/parition03:19
qweqwwell, what's the error?03:19
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qweqwdoes it crash.. does it freeze.. does it do nothing..03:20
AircobraSlackShrike no idea man, did you try googling on this prhase ?03:20
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Andrildcraven: cool03:21
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Andrilis Hoary using the Industrial theme as a default?03:22
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fragspazhey03:23
fragspazEnlightenment isnt in my login thing03:23
dcravenAndril: Clearlooks Human I think.03:23
fragspazsessions menu03:23
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fragspazisnt there a cmd to run that switches it for you?03:24
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SlackShrikeAircobra : i am searching on google03:24
fragspaz?03:24
fragspazhow do i switch from gnome to enlightenment?03:25
Ironfrostwhat's a good audio editing tool for linux?03:25
Ironfrost(one that can handle MP3s)03:25
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elcuIronfrost: audacity?03:27
fragspazthats on linux?03:27
fragspazif audacity is linux compatible get it03:27
elcufragspaz: it's recommended in the ubuntuguide.  it's in the repos03:28
fragspazi record my work on it03:28
SlackShrikeAircobra: the install-cd no boot too !03:28
b0oldoes somebody know the address of the linuxforen.de irc-server?03:28
Andrildcraven: do you know where I can find the Industrial Icon theme? not @ gnome-look03:28
Diablo-D3audacity afaik is only for linux03:28
fragspazelcu, i have intalled it already03:28
elcufragspaz: how did you install enlightenment?03:28
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elcufragspaz: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6417.html03:29
Ironfrostelcu - OK, thanks a lot03:29
fragspazelcu thx, i used the repos03:29
fragspazsynaptic03:29
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b0olhow to get the border between nick and chat back in xhat?03:30
b0olxchat03:30
elcufragspaz: yeah, you have to edit /usr/share/xsessions.  see the link03:30
fragspazthx03:30
fragspazb0ol, i have no idea03:30
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fragspazdouble click?03:30
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b0oldamn :/03:31
elcub0ol: screenshot?03:31
elcuimageshack03:31
b0olah03:31
b0olno i got it alreaddy :)03:32
b0ol:/03:32
elcuwhat was it?03:32
joe|codeI set up my printer with the printer tools in Gnome but when I go to print a page from the web it comes up with the printer being listed as post-script.03:33
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occy:(03:33
JDigitalHow do I install Valknut?03:33
occysuck suck03:33
occyCan't seem to get DVD to play under Ubuntu Hoary03:34
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qm8008135http://pastebin.com/276638 how do I modify button/lid case so that I can have different routine for lid close and open event??03:34
AircobraSlackShrike thats really funny. out of ideas...03:34
elcuoccy: ubuntuguide.org03:34
occyI've apt-get installed: mplayer-386 mplayer-fonts mozilla-mplayer w32codecs gstreamer0.8-plugins libdvdcss2 xine-ui03:34
dcravenAndril: maybe it's at art.gnome.org03:34
occynone of them work.03:34
occyelcu: duh03:34
occyheh03:35
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ickis ubuntu LSB 2 ?03:35
occyxine doesn't work, gxine doesn't work, totem doesn't work.03:35
intilignatcan the LiveCD be used to install Ubuntu?03:35
elcuoccy: ogle, vlc, kaffeine03:35
occygives something about can't read device03:35
fragspazhow do chmod a file03:35
fragspazto be readable to a norm lvl user03:36
syndugh does anyone know how to get files off of a palm zire 71?03:36
occyI would imagine ubuntuguide would tell you you need to change perms on a device or something.03:36
fragspazwritable03:36
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JDigitalsynd: It's a bitch, but it's possible03:36
occyFATAL[ogle_mpeg_ps] : dvdreadblocks failed03:37
occyelcu: see above.03:37
dockanei would like to download a rpm package but clicking on the link opens the real media player. help please03:37
syndJDigital: i cant figure it out03:37
elcuoccy: sure it's not your drive?03:37
mjrdockane, shift-click or right-click/save as03:37
syndJDigital: like i have pictures on it and i wanna load them on my comp03:37
elcudockane: right-click, save link as...03:37
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JDigitalsynd: Have you installed pilot-link or such?03:38
dockaneelcu, mjr its a jave something03:38
joe|codeDoes anyone use Firestarter? If so, does it block your local printer by default?03:38
IronfrostAudacity is looking for a file called libmp3lame.so03:38
dockane*java03:38
JDigitalor jpilot03:38
IronfrostI have Lame installed, so where would I find that file?03:38
JDigitalYou probably want to try jpilot03:38
fragspazironfrost03:38
fragspazread the readme03:38
Andrildcraven: not there either - thanks anyways03:38
SlackShrikeAircobra: The motherboard is 915P/G Combo A7058IMS03:38
vivlachagahoary is the stable version toay? what is the "testing" release?03:38
elcudockane: mjr?03:38
SiRrUsbreezy03:38
JDigitaljpilot gets stuff off a palm, although I couldn't get it to work myself03:38
fragspazironfrost: thats for exporting mp3's, read the readme i think the side is lamelib.sf.net or sumin03:38
syndJDigital: jpilot in aptget?03:38
vivlachagabreezy? SiRrUs ?03:39
JDigitalyeah03:39
dockaneelcu, the adress behind the link is : javascript:Dl_File('S000000055','SD00000004');03:39
JDigitalI ended up using pilot-link which is command-line and fugly03:39
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SiRrUsvivlachaga yep its the testing version03:39
vivlachagathanks03:39
Ironfrostfragspaz - thanks03:39
dockaneelcu, mjr gave me the same awnser like you03:39
SiRrUsyw03:39
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hussamI already set a root password. Still when a user opens synaptic, it asks for his password and the root's. How can I set it to ask root password instead?03:39
occyelcu: I get:  Totem could not play 'dvd://',  Could not open resource for writing.03:40
occyshould I have to chmod it 666 or something?03:40
elcudockane: check edit -> preferences -> dosnloads -> file types03:40
elcu*downloads03:40
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Burgundaviahussam, you need to edit the synaptic.desktop file in /usr/share/applications to say gksu synaptic not gksudo synaptic03:40
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elcuoccy: you shouldn't have to.03:41
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occyelcu: :/03:41
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dockaneelcu, already did it. rpm is not linked to any plugin but it alway opens up real media mozilla plugin03:41
elcuoccy: sorry, i'm not sure, it might be the drive itself.  you could try and convert the DVD to a format that you can read of the HDD03:42
fragspazhow do i use chmod?03:42
ikaromojn03:42
fragspazchmod ???03:42
intilignatcan the LiveCD be used to install Ubuntu?03:42
occyelcu: how could I do that?03:42
elcufragspaz: man chmod.  or google for chmod tutorials03:42
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elcuintilignat: no03:42
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occyelcu: convert the DVD to a format... to read from the hard drive?03:42
JDigitalUse mplayer instead of Totem.03:42
elcuoccy: convert it to divx or some such.  haven't done it myself.03:42
SiRrUsfragspaz http://catcode.com/teachmod/03:43
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ickhow do i make ubuntu bullet proof ?03:43
icki mean secure has hell03:43
GarySavedHey!  I found something you will be interested in ...03:43
JDigitalmplayer dvd://103:43
occyThe following packages have unmet dependencies:03:43
occy  libavcodeccvs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed03:43
occymplayer isn't installing03:44
JDigitalI hate those umet dependencies03:44
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JDigital:(03:44
JDigitalmplayer is awesome03:44
GarySavedThe NSA is releasing  patches to help make Linux more secure!03:44
occyJDigital: heh, how do you fix em'?03:44
mattyThis is sweet03:44
JDigitalI haven't worked out how to fix them yet03:44
occyjoy03:44
mattyI think I can honestly say this is the first distro I've actually enjoyed installing03:44
mattyAppart from taking 3 or 4 hours to tweak the fonts03:44
GarySavedIt gives me a warm fuzzy to know our gov. has our better interests at heart!03:45
occyWarty seemed much better at playing DVD's03:45
SlackShrikeAircobra: The slackware boot too03:45
SlackShrikeAircobra: Only the ubuntu03:45
tritiumGarySaved, apt-cache search selinux03:45
occyelcu: With Warty, I just folled ubuntu guide and DVD was working.03:45
occyelcu: Hoary is the suck for DVD03:45
occyheh03:45
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JDigitalhow do I use valknut03:46
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elcuoccy: still using warty myself.03:46
occyGOT IT WORKING!03:46
occyhah03:46
occyunder ogle03:46
occyit just started freakin' working03:46
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occyhow freaky03:46
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occymust have been the 66603:46
elcuJDigital: you mean install?03:46
occy:/03:46
occyit's jumpy as heck03:47
JDigitalI mean how do I get it03:47
JDigitalthe download site doesn't have "ubuntu" listed03:47
GarySavedWow!  I did not know that was there.  I just found their web site.  (I was being sarcastic)03:47
occyheh03:47
occytotem still won't play it.03:47
poningrutotem teh suck03:48
elcucompile from the source03:48
poningruI had a question03:48
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poningruwhy isnt ogles gui installed with it?03:48
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poningruI mean if you are installing ogle by default why not install the gui as well?03:48
tritiumponingru, I don't know what ogle is, but some people (myself included) don't use synaptic, and instead use aptitude or apt-get, so not everyone wants a gui03:49
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ChipzzI don't know ogle either, but for example mldonkey03:50
elcutritium: i agree.  (aside: ogle is a dvd player)03:50
sadneophitecan anyone tell me where my apache server is looking for it's index.html03:50
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Chipzzsometimes it makes sense to run the gui elsewheer03:50
tritiumelcu, ah, thanks03:50
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felipe_how can i setup lame to encode 192kbps ?03:51
poningrutritium: ogle is a dvd player03:51
IronfrostOK.. I've read through the documentation, and it all seems pretty adamant that if I have Lame I should have this libmp3lame.so file03:51
poningruit comes preinstalled in ubuntu03:51
Ironfrostbut I don't03:51
felipe_i'm using kaudiocreator03:51
poningrubut not its gui03:51
occygxine will play it.03:51
occyheh03:51
tritiumponingru, yeah, I apt-cache searched it ;)03:51
Ironfrostis there anywhere it can be downloaded from03:51
occytotem suxx0rs03:51
occyheh03:51
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icki just got banned from debian03:52
ickwhat morons03:52
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GarySavedSo what all would that access-control add.  I always thought Linux was secure from the box.03:52
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ickcant ask simple question03:52
sadneophiteapache2 is running on my computer but I can't seem to find where the server root is, can anyone tell me where the root is?03:52
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poningruthats the thing why is totem the default player for everything03:52
poningruI mean comeone03:52
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Taliesin`(sadneophite): genreally /var/www/html/ is the default root :)03:53
elcuIronfrost: what package are you trying to install?03:53
Ironfrostelcu - I installed audacity and am trying to save a file as an MP303:54
ickhow do i make ubuntu secure ?03:54
Ironfrostit wants me to find libmp3lame.so, which should come with Lame03:54
elcuick: ubuntuguide.org03:54
ickit seems ubuntu dont have firewall03:54
Ironfrostbut I can't find the thing in /usr/lib03:54
sadneophitetaliesin  thanks I was looking at /srv/www/htdocs or something03:54
icklook to me like ubuntu is good hacking material03:54
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elcuIronfrost: which lame packages do you have installed?03:55
sadneophiteick ubuntu is debian... debian was always good to modify03:55
ick#debian folks dont seem to think ubuntu is debian03:55
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Ironfrostjust 'Lame' - there is a 'lame-extras' that I find through synaptic, but that talks about streaming servers and whatnot03:56
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sadneophiteick, what they mean is that debian isn't ubuntu03:56
Ironfrostso it probably not relevant03:56
sadneophiteick it is like that square and rectangle thing03:56
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sadneophiteubuntu is debian but debian isn't ubuntu...03:56
GarySavedHas anyone actually installed that selinux patch?03:57
ickso debian is biger that ubuntu is it ?03:57
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QuazionI have an iMac running hoarty now, but the screen is not centered ok. Any hints on how to move it a bit more to the left ?03:58
JDigitalUbuntu is based on Debian.03:58
sadneophitebasically all ubuntu packages are either debian or modified from debian... it is a debian subset03:58
^vir^debian users hate ubuntu users its a shame that debian fans are elitists :(03:58
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JDigitalQuazion: Futz with the graphics drivers03:58
luboshiqick, if you are programmer think of it as ubuntu is a subclass of debian03:58
Taliesin`hah03:58
Taliesin`not true03:58
Taliesin`I use both Debian and Ubuntu03:58
JDigitalubuntu implies debian03:58
Taliesin`Debian for my Server systems03:58
sadneophiteOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH03:58
QuazionJDigital, where ? :)03:58
Taliesin`Ubuntu for my Network Laptop :D03:58
ickso what the point of ubuntu ?03:58
JDigitalquazion: no clue03:58
^vir^Taliesin`, its true mate ask in debian03:58
ickwhy not cooperate with debian ?03:59
JDigitalthat xfreeconfig dealy maybe03:59
paulproteu1^vir^: Don't be so extremist.  I use both Debian and Ubuntu.03:59
ickinstead of forking ?03:59
sadneophiteI use debian DVDs for a coaster...03:59
QuazionJDigital, i used to use some x tool for that in the past...03:59
Taliesin`(^vir^): what im saying is not all Debian users are like that ;)03:59
JDigitaldebian is good for servers, Ubuntu is good as a desktop OS03:59
dcravenick: there is much cooperation.03:59
Taliesin`correct03:59
Taliesin`those 'extremists' are comapring apples to bannana's03:59
dcravenick: don't beleive everything you hear.03:59
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icki dont but it gets confused03:59
Taliesin`Debian, personally is a good Server OS03:59
Quazionfound it again, its xvidtune :)03:59
sadneophitedebian is good if you want to usew old programs and ubuntu is good if you don't like using backports03:59
elcuIronfrost: i think you need liblame03:59
Taliesin`Ubuntu, Is a fracking great Desktop OS04:00
JDigitalright04:00
dcravenick: any changes made in Ubuntu are sent upstream to Debian.04:00
^vir^ick ubuntu uses debian packages just like how suse use redhat its basicaly what it comes down to04:00
sadneophiteTaliesin I HATE DEBIAN BACKPORTS they are like ober unreliable04:00
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ickso the packages arent really ubuntus ?04:00
luboshiqick, I like ubuntu more because it is more about desktop than debian04:00
Taliesin`(sadneophite): lmao, i run on the testing systems04:00
sadneophiteick some of them are04:00
Taliesin`their are updates everyday :D04:01
sadneophiteTaliesin lmao04:01
^vir^some are some aren't ick its a mixture of the two really04:01
sadneophite?04:01
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Taliesin`same are pure debian, alot have been customised for ubuntu04:01
Taliesin`you will notice sometimes as packages coem down04:01
Taliesin`they have .orig. in them04:01
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^vir^debian is crap for updates unlike ubuntu04:01
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sadneophiteit is like c++ is c but c isn't c++04:01
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Taliesin`without an ubuntu tag, they are pure debian pakcages AFAIK, the ones marked like hell with ubuntu in most of the packages are the ubuntu customised ones :)04:02
luboshiqsadneophite, i like your point of view04:02
luboshiq:-)04:02
^vir^ubuntu try to use the latest & greatest on the market while providing the end user with a distro suitable for desktop usage04:02
Taliesin`same04:02
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Taliesin`(^vir^): hm?04:02
[4-tea-2] hi folks, i'd like to try ubuntu... before i dive into it: can i run parted from the install cd?04:02
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Taliesin`no, Debian is the last stable build of Debian, bad for a Desktop OS04:03
Taliesin`err04:03
Taliesin`bad = built04:03
sadneophite^vir^ no I think that is suse under the new novell developement...when you are speaking from 'market'04:03
poningruhow do you write to the hardisk using the live cd?04:03
Taliesin`and first Debian = Ubuntu :P04:03
fragspazchmod g+rwe && u+rwe && o+re /usr/share/xsessions04:03
fragspazis that OK?04:03
elcu[4-tea-2] : don't think so.04:03
dcraven[4-tea-2] : if you are wondering if there is a partitioning tool during install, then the answer is yes. I don't know what the tool actually is though :)04:03
fragspaztis easy though04:04
fragspazinstall is no problem04:04
[4-tea-2] i have to resize an existing (boot) partition. so i guess i'll have to find a small parted image first04:04
sadneophitetaliesin thanks again04:04
elcudcraven: there is?  not for resizing (ala disdkrake in mandrake) though?04:05
elcuwhich is what he wants04:05
sadneophiteelcu fdisk04:05
fragspazchmod g+rwe && u+rwe && o+re /usr/share/xsessions     <<< is this good or not?04:05
fragspazi get errors04:05
luboshiqi must say i'm impressed how well ubuntu runs on mac04:05
^vir^sadneophite, suse is rpm based i'm on about debian based the two are completey different for other distro does what ubuntu does really you think how many do you find with gnome 2.10 as standard04:05
occyelcu: hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd04:05
luboshiqmuch better than yellow dog 404:05
occyelcu: that seems to have fixed the speed issue of the DVD04:06
occyit's playing perfectly now.04:06
occyheh04:06
elcuoccy: nice one.04:06
occyfound that on the ubuntuforums04:06
fragspazchmod g+rwe && u+rwe && o+re /usr/share/xsessions     <<< is this good or not?, i get errors. what is wrong with it?04:06
dcravenelcu: I don't think you can resize, no.04:06
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JDigitalHurr. Installing valknut is a rigmarole04:06
occymy question is.... is that permanent?  Or do I have to do something to make that work at boot time?04:06
occyThe hdparm command04:07
[4-tea-2] sweet - SuSE has a 182kb parted image. exactly what i need to install ubuntu after resizing. :)04:07
[4-tea-2] (no, i am NOT using SuSE, i just googled for "parted iso")04:07
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slask3nDoes anyone know what can make my computer unable to "talk" to the internet? I was running GAIM and Firefox with 3 tabs last it happened... Suddenly just like that i get timeouts and have no connection, even though it shows all as normal, including the network connections...04:08
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^vir^[4-tea-2] , nothing wrong with suse yast is great :)04:08
fragspazchmod g+rwe && u+rwe && o+re /usr/share/xsessions     <<< is this good or not?, i get errors. what is wrong with it?04:08
Ocidoccy: modify your /etc/hdparm.conf04:08
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slask3nfragspaz: one thing is that executive-parameter is x, and not e...04:09
fragspazoh04:09
megamindplz guide me for the dialup access in ubuntu04:09
fragspazok04:09
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fragspazthx04:09
[4-tea-2] ^vir^: yast is sick. ymmv. :)04:09
ickis opera 8 in ubuntu ?04:09
slask3nnp04:09
dcraven[4-tea-2] : this might be useful --> http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/04:09
fragspazslask3n: still 'too few arguments'04:10
icki mean the freeware version04:10
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dcravenick: packages.ubuntu.com04:10
ickopera 8 is fast04:10
slask3nfragspazick: no, i cant find it at least...04:11
ickfaster then firefox i think04:11
tritiumick, apt-cache search <search term> when you want to look for a possible package in ubuntu04:11
dcravenick: yes it is.04:11
slask3nfragspaz: i dont know really, try look at the man pages "man chmod"04:11
icki used oprea back in the days it was the only tabed browser04:11
[4-tea-2] dcraven: that looks nice, thanks, but i think i'm set04:11
dcraven[4-tea-2] : okay04:12
[4-tea-2] (i actually want to minimize the amount of stuff i have to download, so i can get rolling soon)04:12
fragspazcan anyone here tell me whats wong with my chmod command??04:12
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astro76fragspaz: use && to separate complete commands, not options04:13
elcumegamind: what's your problem?04:13
elcuelcu: got mine working using wvdial04:13
elcuheh. whoops04:13
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TooSadi am sorry, my amule is an enourm window whith enourms font04:14
dcravenfragspaz: what are you trying to do? rwxrwxr-x? That's "chmod 775 filename" I think.04:14
TooSadi have disinstalled it and installed04:14
TooSadbut nothing04:14
fragspazoh thx astro and dcraven04:14
astro76fragspaz: of course the whole thing would simplify as chmod a+rwx /usr/share/xsessions && o-w /usr/share/xsessions04:15
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astro76fragspaz: and note it's x not e04:15
fragspazthx04:15
KleenerBubhi04:15
fragspazwhts a o and w?04:15
megamindhow can i configure the dialup .. plz dome one respond me04:15
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astro76fragspaz: missed a part: chmod a+rwx /usr/share/xsessions && chmod o-w /usr/share/xsessions04:16
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gypsymaurohello04:16
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elcumegamind: wvdial04:16
gypsymauroany hint on how configure a wireless card on a notebook?04:16
astro76fragspaz: o=other, w=write04:16
fragspazthanks astro04:16
KleenerBubhow do i share folders on my ubuntu with an win2000-pc?04:17
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fragspazsamba?04:17
dcravenfragspaz: http://catcode.com/teachmod/04:17
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fragspazthanks04:17
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KleenerBubok and how. i've installed samba with apt-get install samba04:17
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dockanedoes somebody inhere runnung iscan ?04:17
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AgentMI have a problem with qt-apps, under my Ubuntu they are looking pretty bad, almost unusable. Can I install some themes for qt or something like that? Important is, that I don't want to install kde!04:19
slask3nDoes anyone know what can make my computer unable to "talk" to the internet? I was running GAIM and Firefox with 3 tabs last it happened... Suddenly just like that i get timeouts and have no connection, even though it shows all as normal, including the network connections...04:20
poningrufirewall?04:20
stevedslask3n: what kind of connection you using ?04:20
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samehhi who is there04:21
slask3nsteved: ADSL, directly to internet...04:21
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KleenerBubnow how can i configure samba?04:21
stevedslask3n: usb modem or ethernet ?04:21
slask3nsteved: ethernet...04:22
kkathmanslask3n: have you tried connecting to the net with another system yet?04:22
davegahananyone who knows how to steer around a GRUB loadng error 17 ?04:22
davegahanbig panick here04:22
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slask3nyes, i have another computer, 2 actually and they both connects...04:22
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kkathmanslask3n: ok just wondered if maybe the connection went down... Did you reboot the Linux system and retry?04:23
slask3nsteved, kkathman: i have to reboot to get this computer online again :s04:23
Taliesin`have u tried sudo ifconfig eth0 down; ifconfig eth0 up04:23
Taliesin`?04:23
kkathmanslask3n: but when you reboot, it comes back on line?04:23
Taliesin`sorry04:23
Taliesin`have u tried sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo ifconfig eth0 up04:23
Taliesin`and see if you can go back to browsing?04:24
slask3nTaliesin, kkathman: yes and yes04:24
ThomasWinwoodHello. I'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my setup and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?04:24
GarySavedSlackShrike, What firewall are you using?04:24
dcravenKleenerBub: this might be useful --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba04:24
davegahanplease... help04:24
H0lyD4wgwhy do Gtk+ apps use different fonts when i'm not using Gnome?04:24
elcudavegahan: make sure your HDD is not set to "Auto", use "LBA" instead.04:24
elcudavegahan: in BIOS04:25
stevedslask3n: might be worth setting up some pings and see what happens04:25
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stevedslasks3: ping your default gateway ie your modem and then ping an address on the internet see what happens when the connection drops04:25
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GarySavedWhen ubuntu starts up, it sets to do a lease renewal in 9 hours.  THe only way I can stay connected indefinately is by installing FireStarter.  It handles restarting the connection when the lease renews.04:26
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davegahanchecked my bos04:26
davegahanBIOS04:26
kkathmanslask3n: Its not really like linux to just drop a device point blank...unless you were doing something odd, or tripped over a cable, this sounds like a hardware prob..might you have another ethernet card available?04:26
davegahanthere is no such option04:26
SlackShrikeSlackShrike: I am don't use firewall04:26
UnreA|Luild-essential: Depends: g++ (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed04:27
UnreA|L  gftp: Depends: gftp-text (= 2.0.18-1) but it is not installable04:27
UnreA|LE: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).04:27
UnreA|Lhow install this ?04:27
elcudavegahan: it should be where the HDD area is.04:27
davegahansweating here04:27
GarySavedSlackShrike, Then you should try FireStarter, and see if that is it.04:27
elcudavegahan: just chek every dialog04:27
slask3nsteved, kkathman: everything looks perfectly fine in ifconfig, networking, etc... but i get timeout when trying to visit a webpag etc... ive tried unplugging, and plug in the networkcable, and renewing the IP, etc. but i need to reboot for makng it work...04:27
davegahanits an acer laptop doesnt show such option in bios04:27
megamindwvdial requires confiugration of wvdial.conf and i can  not find that file :(04:28
GarySavedThere is a default firewall that does not handle DHCP lease renewals for adsl.04:28
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elcumegamind: follow the instructions in the readme04:28
davegahantrying rescue root=/dev/...04:28
slask3nkkathman: i have another harddisk with windoZe on, and have no problems there, i got the problems after reinstalling ubuntu a week ago..04:28
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stevedslask3n: i assume the timeout happens on multiple web sites?04:28
megamindwhich readme fiel :(04:28
slask3nall, i cant even visit google.com04:29
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elcumegamind: in here: /usr/share/doc/wvdial/README.gz04:29
megamindthanks let me take a look at that ...04:29
stevedslask3n: might be a dns problem ?04:29
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tritiummegamind, all package store their doc directory under /usr/share/doc, so it's always a good idea to look there04:29
ravehello04:29
gwildorhi04:30
davegahannothing like that in my bios04:30
ThomasWinwoodHello. I'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my setup and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?04:30
raveevery body happy ?04:30
slask3nsteved: the other computers can connect :s04:30
elcudavegahan: i had the same problem, and i fixed it that way.  it's a popular error.  tried googling?04:30
davegahanI fear a disaster, if only  can get linux or windows running04:30
stevedslask3n: have a look in /etc/resolv.conf check your name servers are in there04:30
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megamindthanks i got the idea about the readme now ...04:31
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slask3nsteved: i dont have any name servers...04:31
davegahanyeah04:31
kjcoleHi.  I've just installed Ubuntu Hoary with the default partitioning, and wanted to know where I can learn more about the /dev mounted on /.dev.04:32
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elcumegamind: happy surfing. and pass the message on.  wvdial is an excellent, easy way of getting dialup modems up and running (unless you have a winmodem AFAIK)04:32
Blue-Omegai'm not able to mount lg GCE-8525B drive during installtion of Ubuntu 4.10 anybody can help me?04:32
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stevedslask3n: what are they other boxes that are working linux as well ?04:32
davegahanfound the bios thing, but cant find the setting in mine04:32
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kjcole(I hadn't seen .dev before.  If I partition by hand, does that still automatically get set up?)04:32
davegahanthere must be another way....04:33
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dcravendavegahan: it's been reported that people who get that error in grub have no issues with lilo.. Not a great solution, but a possibility if all else fails.04:33
slask3nsteced: yes, one is running Ubuntu as well and the other mandrake... but this computer has no problems in windoze and never had any probs in ubuntu either before i reinstalled ubuntu last week.04:33
slask3nsteved*04:33
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ThomasWinwoodI'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my Ubuntu system and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?04:34
davegahanphew04:34
elcudavegahan: update your bios.04:34
davegahanoh yeah04:35
Blue-Omegaanyone?04:35
stevedslask3n: can you get to google.com at the moment via a web page?  If not try pinging 216.239.37.99 that is the ip address for google.com04:35
davegahangoogling now for ubuntu rescue installation04:35
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stevedslask3n: if the ping works but the web page doesnt looks like a dns problem to me04:36
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d0nhi04:36
slask3ni can get into google now, cause i have rebooted the computer... but between 11.30 and 14.00 today i had to reboot 3 times..04:36
UnreA|LE: Unmet dependencies. Try apt-get -f install with no packages (or specify a solution).04:37
UnreA|L  gftp: Depends: gftp-text (= 2.0.18-1) but it is not installable04:37
UnreA|Luild-essential: Depends: g++ (>= 3:3.3) but it is not going to be installed04:37
UnreA|Lhow install this ?04:37
stevedslask3n: what does resolv.conf look like now ?04:37
slask3nsteved: i have no connection to internet whatsoever! i cant ping google, i cant chat on gai/xchat or anything.. 2 sec ill check resolve.conf04:37
H0lyD4wgGtk+ apps use different fonts depending on whether or not i'm using Gnome. How do i set the fonts, theme, etc. without using gnome?04:38
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ThomasWinwoodI'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my Ubuntu system and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?04:38
dcravenH0lyD4wg: is gnome-settings-daemon running?04:38
slask3nSteved: search adsl.tele2.no || nameserver 193.216.1.13 || nameserver 193.216.69.1304:39
nydustwhats the best html editor like golive?04:39
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stevedslask3n: have a look at netstat -rn there should be a line starting with 0.0.0.0 the next address is your default gateway try pinging that04:40
nydustslask3n, norwegian?04:40
kjcoleCan anyone point me towards documentation regarding "/dev on /.dev type unknown (rw,bind)"04:40
H0lyD4wgdcraven, wow, thanks.04:40
slask3nnydust: ja :P04:40
dcravenH0lyD4wg: you can probably still use gnome-font-properties and gnome-theme-manager even though you aren't using GNOME.. Assuming that GNOME is installed but you just arent' using it.04:40
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nydustslask3n, same here04:41
fateisajesterdoes anybody here play pool on pogo.com?04:41
dcravenH0lyD4wg: I'll assume that worked, glad to help.04:41
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fateisajester i ask because i have a pretty fast computer and a decent video card... its a javabased game which runs perfectly on windows but is really choppy on linux04:41
kjcoleDoes the /.dev mount point and the mounting of /dev just "happen" as part of the standard install, regardless of partitioning before installing?04:41
slask3nsteved: destination 193.217.114.1 and gateway 0.0.0.0 ?04:42
mjrfateisajester, don't play, dunno, but it sounds like they might use threads in some manner that relies upon Windows' scheduling, which would be bad practice. Or it's something else.04:42
slask3nsteved: or destination 0.0.0.0 and gateway 193.217.114.0 ?04:42
stevedslask3n: the 193 address will be your gateway try ping 193.217.114.004:43
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slask3nsteved: but i have connection now.. its just sometimes.. right out of the blue...04:44
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slask3nsteved: i got answer from the gateway now... time=0.036 ms04:45
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stevedslask3n: that kind of fault is a really hard one work out :( anything common you are doing on the comp when it happens or just surfing ?04:45
svalhell guys, could you remember me what's the command to have a listing of all the files in a directory WITH the absolute PATH ?04:45
dcravensval: find?04:45
stevedslask3n: you should get a constant reply from the gateway if its dropping packets then you have a problem04:46
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ThomasWinwoodI'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my Ubuntu system and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?04:46
slask3nsteved: the apps that always have been running when it happens is Firefox, gaim and sometimes Synaptic.. i have a constant reply from the gateway04:46
svaldcraven: good idea :) i was searchong a flag for ls but don't find it04:46
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stevedslask3n: if its working ok now might be worht leaving that ping running then set up a ping to google.com and then let them run and see what happens when you loose connection04:47
steveds;ask3n: then you will know whether its the link between you and the modem or the modem and your isp04:47
dcravensval: I actually remember searching the ls man page for the same non-existant flag.04:48
dcravensval: once04:48
slask3nsteved: ill try that :) but wont google.com react on that? the gateway is my ISP's server, not the modem...04:48
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Ironfrosthi - repeating a question I asked an hour or so ago:04:49
stevedslask3n: dont think so pinging it now myself04:49
IronfrostAudacity won't save as MP3 because it wants me to find the file libmp3lame.so04:49
Ironfrostapparently it should be part of Lame, and should be in /usr/lib04:49
Ironfrostbut I have Lame installed (and working perfectly) and it's not there04:49
Ironfrostcan some other Ubuntu users have a look in there and see if they have that file?04:50
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slask3nsteved: couldnt that look like an attack? :P hehe if i ping it a couple hours i mean.. :P i dont want to get in any troubles. :p04:50
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jsubl2how do i change the gnome startup splash screen.04:50
sigpcslask3n: you should read about "ping"04:50
stevedslask3n: no not really if they didn't want to be pinged they could block them its not illegal to ping someone :)04:51
sigpcit isn't really legal to ping someone without permission for 2 hours04:51
sigpcheh04:51
sigpcjsubl2: on http://art.gnome.org there is a good FAQ on all gnome stuff.04:51
jsubl2thanks sigpc04:51
stevedsigpc: is that true ? didn't know that04:51
sigpcsteved: yeah04:51
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sigpcbecause a ping -f on a someone with 56k wouldn't be nice04:52
slask3nhehe, thats what i thought to.. people used to ping people until they lost their connection before, but its a bit hard now with broadband.. :p04:52
sigpcespecially if you had a fast connection04:52
stevedsigpc: is there anywhere you can ping then as someway of testing ? that dont mind ?04:52
dcravenIronfrost: try "sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so"04:52
picolehi,all04:52
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stevedsigpc: i can understand that but one ping packet a second wont do them any harm :)04:52
sigpcsteved: yeah04:52
sigpcjust a simple ping to see if you connection works isn't bad04:53
dcravenIronfrost: that'll make a symlink with the filename you are expecting. This assumes that the file libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 exists on your machine.04:53
sigpcbut if you let it go for 2 hours would be04:53
sigpc:)04:53
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ThomasWinwoodI'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my Ubuntu system and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?04:53
picolei am some problem with my totem,i can't play the avi files with subtitle loading?any advice?04:54
Chameleon22under ubuntu whats the path for X includes?04:54
stevedslask3n: I assume you have checked all your physical connections as well ie the ethernet cables are clipped in fully on both ends04:54
slask3nsteved: if you have 56k modem it would be a big deal, but google wouldnt notice anythiong with their lines, you wouldnt either...04:54
Ironfrostdcraven - /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0.0.0 does not exist either04:54
Ironfrostthere is nothing in that folder with libmp3lame in the title04:55
dcravenIronfrost: is there a /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0? Or some variation? ehe04:55
Ironfrost*filename, whatever04:55
dcravenIronfrost: oh my.04:55
Ironfrostno, there is no such thing04:55
dcravenIronfrost: I wonder where I got mine.. hmmm04:55
Ironfrostbut Lame works fine (I've actually been saving as wav instead and using lame to convert it)04:55
slask3nsteved: everything is as its always, both physicly and software-related... and a reboot is the only thing that helps.. its like the computer dont know anything has happended, just blocks internet withoput knowing it...04:55
Ironfrostis it possible to send me the file? or does Linux not work like that?04:55
dcravenIronfrost: mine came with the liblame0 package.04:55
IronfrostOK, I'll have a look for that04:56
dcravenIronfrost: do you have liblame0 isntalled?04:56
dcravenIronfrost: okay04:56
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ThomasWinwoodI'm attempting to set up WiFi access on my Ubuntu system and am having trouble because the network requires a WEP key which no facilities seem to support (it's thirteen bytes hex). Could anyone suggest anything short of deliberately removing WEP from the network?04:56
ivokshi04:56
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IronfrostOK, that explains it, I don't have that04:56
Ironfrostinstalling it now04:56
dcravenIronfrost: I think it's in multiverse.04:56
stevedslask3n: and you have no firewall running ?04:57
Ironfrostyep, got it04:57
dcravenIronfrost: you *may* still need the symlink.. Depends on how picky Audacity is.04:57
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dcravenIronfrost: it'll work though.04:57
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ivoksThomasWinwood network-admin04:57
Ironfrostthanks a lot!04:57
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ivoksman... i had car accident today :(04:57
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ThomasWinwoodivoks: Eh?04:57
dcravenIronfrost: Don't thank me until it actually does work :)04:57
dcravenivoks: Oh oh.04:57
slask3nsteved: no, not other than ip tables thats built into linux.. or if bastille installs an firewall i have...04:58
ivoksThomasWinwood network-admin supports WEP.. acctually iwconfig supports WEP04:58
ivoksdcraven yeah... guy kicked my car from behind04:58
picolei have a problem with my totem,i can't play the avi files with subtitle loading?can somebody tell me?many thanks04:58
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net_benjohello....I would like to install UBUNTU on a DUAL PROCESSOR pentium 3 Xeon system....does Ubuntu support this?04:58
Ironfrostyup, it's working04:58
Ironfrostthanks!04:58
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ivoksdcraven i runned out the road and smashed in a parked car04:58
Delgulcan someone help me getting my nforce4 sound to work with alsa (and/or esd)?04:59
stevedslask3n: try sudo iptables --list see if there are loads of rules in there04:59
dcravenIronfrost: cool. You're welcom.04:59
d0nany1 have a sec fi help a ubuntu noob??? sound doesnt work04:59
dcravenI can't spell.04:59
stevednet_benjo: yes it does just need to install the smp kernel04:59
dcravenivoks: Oops!04:59
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net_benjosteved:  smp kernel..i can do apt-get install  to get it??05:00
DelgulI have OSS sound emulation working, but cant use alsa directly (or esd for that matter)05:00
ivoksdcraven well, shit happens05:00
Chameleon22under ubuntu whats the path for X includes?05:00
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slask3nsteved: can i msg you in priv? i dont feel like flooding the chanel, even thoug its 6 lines...05:01
ThomasWinwoodivoks: network-admin doesn't offer any options at all for wireless, and iwconfig gives me "Operation not supported" when eth0 is up and "Invalid argument" when down.05:01
ivoksdcraven i got shantz's nech fixer... fuck...05:01
dcravenivoks: Yes I suppose it does :)05:01
stevednet_benjo: yes05:01
ivoksThomasWinwood it does05:01
net_benjosteved:  THANK YOU...05:01
d0nso no1 wants to help me with my sound problems05:01
d0n=)05:01
ivoksThomasWinwood run iwconfig05:01
stevedslask3n: if its only 6 lines then thats finr you dont have any rules set :)05:01
Delguld0n: well i have problems too, but they may be different... Try me perhaps I know.05:01
ivoksThomasWinwood i run wifi with WEP on ubuntu linux and i used netwrok-admin to set up network05:02
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slask3nits just writtn ACCEPT on all the 3 points...05:02
ThomasWinwoodivoks: I already tried iwconfig a dozen times or more. "Operation not supported" when up, "Invalid argument" when down.05:02
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ivoksThomasWinwood sudo iwconfig05:02
ThomasWinwoodSame.05:02
ivoksThomasWinwood what card is that?05:02
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ThomasWinwoodRealtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ rev 1005:03
ivoksthat's wifi?! :)05:03
d0nDelguk05:03
ivoksrtl8139 isn't wifi card05:03
d0nDelgul05:03
d0nno matter y it doenst work05:03
ThomasWinwoodThen why is it the only listed option besides the WinModem which I've never used?05:03
d0nit sees my soundcard but anyway nothin cumin out of the boxes05:03
ThomasWinwoodAnd USB devices work fine - it found my headphones.05:04
ivoksThomasWinwood rtl8139 is ethernet card, not wireless05:04
ubuntuuserI requested a mailing of 4.05 when it was announced05:04
Delgulcan you run amixer?05:04
Delguld)n?05:04
Delguld0n?05:04
d0namixer05:04
ubuntuuserI have heard nothing about the mailing05:04
Delgulor even better alsamixer05:04
ivoksThomasWinwood what do u get when u run:05:04
d0nalsa and oss does not work05:04
slask3nsteved: maybe i should just reinstall ubuntu again..? i have been thinking of it, but i decided to ask here first, maybe someone knew whats going on, or could benefit from my problems...05:04
ubuntuuserwhat should i do?05:05
ivoksThomasWinwood lspci | grep Network05:05
Delguld0n: what does 'lsmod | grep snd' say?05:05
d0ndunno05:05
dcravenubuntuuser: I think they are still in shipping. Mine haven't come yet either.05:05
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Delguld0n try it :-)05:05
d0n |05:05
stevedslask3n: its up to you might end up with the same fault :) its a hard one to work out as it doesnt happen all the time05:05
d0nhow to make  |05:05
ThomasWinwoodivoks: Nothing.05:06
stevedslask3n: if you have the time try it again05:06
Delgulit's a pipe...next to return i guess!05:06
ivoksThomasWinwood then u don't have wifi card05:06
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ThomasWinwoodExcept I do. It's plugged into the front of the box.05:06
ivoksThomasWinwood USB wifi?05:06
ThomasWinwoodYes.05:06
ivoksomg :)05:06
dcravenThomasWinwood: What does "lspci | grep Ethernet" say?05:07
ivoksThomasWinwood lsusb05:07
dcravenThomasWinwood: oh.. nevermind.05:07
ivoksdcraven it's USB WIFI card :))05:07
dcravenivoks: I see that now :)05:07
slask3nsteved: i cant reproduce it, so i guess i just wait until it happens again, and the ill reinstall ubntu... but thanks a lot for the help :)05:07
Delgulanyone with a GA-k8N mobo and working alsa?05:07
ivoksi once tried USB wifi card, but gived up :)05:07
dcravenivoks: bah.. No need for specifics eh?05:07
ivoksthat's shit, like USB modem05:07
ThomasWinwoodIt sees the card.05:07
ivoksThomasWinwood now, what card is it?05:08
ubuntuuserdcraven: thx I will wait05:08
ThomasWinwoodActiontec Electronics.05:08
ThomasWinwoodThat's all.05:08
ivoksman, my head hurts...05:08
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stevedslask3n: no problems good way of learning linux trying to figure out other peoples problems :)05:08
terjeis there a document that explains how to save profile information from the liveCD?05:08
kjcoleDoes the /.dev mount point and the mounting of /dev just "happen" as part of the standard install, regardless of partitioning before installing?05:09
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dcravenThomasWinwood: It appears that ndiswrapper might like that chipset, assuming the 802UI3 model.05:09
Naliothhowdy05:09
ThomasWinwoodndiswrapper being?05:10
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ivokswrapper around drivers for windows05:10
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karlcan I set an apt-source for just a single instance?  I want to get grass6 from debian, instead of grass5 from ubuntu05:11
ivoksfirst time i see name of that company05:12
slask3nsteved: maybe you can help me with another prob then? :p how can i make /dev/sda5 mount to "Comptuer" as a HDD? and how to make it mount automaticly every time i boot up?05:12
dcravenThomasWinwood: do you have the Windows drivers handy for that card? The .inf and the .sys files in particular.05:12
ivoksthat must some crapy card :)05:12
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SQL_Samare there any good html editors? like dreamweaver for linux that are open source?05:12
stevedslask3n: you need to edit /etc/fstab05:12
ThomasWinwooddcraven: not onhand, searching google.05:12
dcravenivoks: same here, but it is in the ndiswrapper.sf.net wiki as working.. That model mentioned above anyways.05:12
OcidSQL_Sam: try nvu05:12
stevedslask3n: man fstab for a bit more info05:12
Naliothkarl, yes you can05:12
dcravenThomasWinwood: http://www.actiontecsupport.com/files/Prism80211b2KXPDrivers.exe05:12
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ivoksSQL_Sam screen, bluefish05:13
ivoksSQL_Sam but this editors asumes u know what HTML is05:13
stevedslask3n: for example i have a fat partition on /dev/sda5 i dont mount it at boot and the line is fstab looks like this:05:13
OcidSQL_Sam: http://ubuntuguide.org/#nvu05:13
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ivoksSQL_Sam i hate frontpage, dreamwaver etc... they crate 5x bigger pages then they should be05:13
stevedslask3n: /dev/sda5       /mnt/music      vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       005:14
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Naliothkarl, doing so might break your system, but life is a gamble for what we want05:14
ivoksSQL_Sam u could try with quanta too05:14
ThomasWinwoodActiontec USB 802.11b WLAN Adapter-Am <-- that driver is for this?05:14
karlnalioth: is it using apt-preferences?05:14
karlthere's nothing particualrly system dependent.05:14
ivoksomg... i bet that doesn't even work on Windows :)(05:14
rotundohello, as of today I seem to be having some mime problems with Hoary, it no longer recognizes PDFs, and when I go to Places->Computer it lists the drives with a desktop icon, and won't open any of them, any ideas ?05:14
karlI've already compared the debian requirements,05:14
ThomasWinwoodivoks: Works on WIndows seamlessly.05:14
dcravenThomasWinwood: I'm getting this info from here --> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/List05:15
slask3nsteved: its reiserfs05:15
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ivoksThomasWinwood hehe yeah... 2m from AP :)05:15
Naliothkarl, i always use my command line for working with my files05:15
dcravenThomasWinwood: I don't actually know anything about the hardware.05:15
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ThomasWinwoodThat's for a PCMCIA card.05:15
supertedhow do i get rid of the ubuntu spatial mode?05:15
dcravenivoks: some of us get stuck with the hardware that comes in the box.05:15
stevedslask3n: just replace vfat with reiserfs05:15
Naliothkarl you can find out how at www.tldp.org05:15
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slask3nsteved: ok :) thanks again! :)05:16
dcravenThomasWinwood: look at the website I just gave you.. First card under "A".05:16
Naliothkarl just change it so u get your stuff, update get stuff, and change back and update again05:16
ivoksdcraven i know, i usually change it :)05:16
stevedslask3n: if you want it to mount at boot time then take out the noauto05:16
Fackamatoyou fire your musket but I'll run you through05:16
ivoksdcraven i choosed my laptop so everything would work on linux and it does05:16
dcravenivoks: Laptops can be a pain to swap hardware in.05:16
stevedslask3n: and make sure that you use mkdir to create a mount point for the filesystem05:16
dcravenivoks: same here.05:16
dcravenivoks: well, with crutches like ndiswrapper.05:16
ivoksdcraven what do u need ndis from?05:17
ivoksdcraven s/from/for/05:17
slask3nsteved: i have made a dir so i use to mount it in. as its now i mount it manually every time i reboot...05:17
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dcravenivoks: My laptop has a Broadcom wifi chip.05:17
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karlor just download the .deb from debian myself, and install it with dpkg05:17
ivoksoh05:17
ThomasWinwooddcraven: which of these files do I need?05:17
dcravenivoks: works well with the wrapper though.05:17
ivoksi have intel prowireless ipw2200 does the trick :)05:18
dcravenThomasWinwood: Of what set?05:18
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ivoksdcraven strange... bc wifi isn't supported under linux, but all their eth cards are05:18
ThomasWinwoodOf the Actiontec drivers you linked me to.05:18
slask3nsteved: shall i remove the "noauto" if i want it to mount automaticly every time i reboot?05:18
herrie-aabhello everybody i need some help with kpackage....  who can help me??05:18
stevedslask3n: yep05:18
slask3nsteved: :)05:19
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herrie-aabhow can i install some rpm??05:19
ivoksdcraven which broadcom?05:19
Bazziherrie-aab use alien05:19
herrie-aabthnx05:19
Naliothherrie-aab, visit Area 51 for an alien05:20
djonesherrie-aab: your probably better of compiling from sources05:20
dcravenThomasWinwood: First I want you to know that I have no idea what model your chipset is, so this may not even work. I also want you to know that attempting it will do no harm, and can be undone. Lastly, as the ndiswrapper.sf.net link I pasted here says, the file is http://www.actiontecsupport.com/files/Prism80211b2KXPDrivers.exe05:20
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dcravenThomasWinwood: Keep it in the channel.05:20
dcravenThomasWinwood: please.05:20
dcravenivoks: BCM430605:20
ThomasWinwoodI don't myself see why, since all it does is hinder communication by running fifty different conversations alongside each other. Which files do I need?05:21
davegahanAnyone with some GRUB knowledge here please ?05:21
dcravenThomasWinwood: Did you download the file I just gave you the link to?05:21
ThomasWinwoodYes. It's an archive. Which files do I need?05:22
dcravenThomasWinwood: Okay, just unzip it for a moment. You will eventually need the .inf and the .sys files.05:22
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ThomasWinwoodRight.05:22
dcravenThomasWinwood: are you in Ubuntu right now?05:22
karlfuck it, it's easier to build from source than to to use debs from somewhere else.05:22
ThomasWinwoodIf I were I wouldn't need help getting the network up, would I? I'm on my father's Windows install.05:23
karldcraven: was I trying to help yo uwith a bcm4306 a few days ago?05:23
karlI take it's still not working for you :)05:23
aehoHas anybody here tested http://icculus.org/duke3d/ , or can someone tell what dir does "Linux system" mean?05:23
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ThomasWinwooddcraven: give me the commands to put in and I'll write them down and carry them and the files across.05:23
kaoDhello05:24
dcravenkarl: no, it wasn't me.05:24
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Naliothkarl, you are now entering a more calm way of life05:24
Naliothkarl, i suggest "checkinsall" in this way you have debs for your system for later05:25
Naliothwoops i hate yptos...that would be "checkinstall"05:25
ThomasWinwoodI say I'll carry them across, but I don't have any free floppies.05:25
ivoksoh... bye guys...05:26
ivokshead hurts...05:26
dcravenThomasWinwood: Install ndiswrapper-utils (probably on the install CD if not already installed), then follow the directions here, starting from the "Installing the Windows Drivers" section. --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto05:26
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dcravenThomasWinwood: and try to curb the attitude, we are all volunteers here.05:27
dcravenbrb05:27
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Linforcerhey does anyone know of a picture library program for gnome?05:27
ncpafter i have installede nvidia drivers, an updatede kernel-headers every thing i apt-get (etc. xmms ) just return "Segmentation fault" howcome ?05:27
Linforcercan't seem to find one05:27
SQL_Samwhen using chown (like the following) sudo chown -R root:root /opt.....   is :root supposed to be my root password?05:27
sigLinforcer: gThumb05:27
Linforcersig thanks05:27
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OcidSQL_Sam: nope, it's group root05:28
sigI just made a fast index.html with it here:  >>> http://harrisplace.net/pictures/ducks/05:28
LinforcerDidnt know I could build a library int hat05:28
holycowsig, you made that with gthumb?05:28
holycow*blink* :)05:28
sigyes05:28
sig3 clicks05:28
sig:)05:28
holycowman you learn something new every day05:28
holycowha!05:29
davegahansomeone that can help me with a grub error problem - I need to boot my machine05:29
LinforcerNot as good as Picasa2 :( but well... one must make some sacrafices switching to Linux05:29
Linforcersacrifices*05:29
gwildorLinforcer, I also know that photshop hase a galelry generating function.....maybe GIMP does too?05:29
Chameleon22has anyone here managed to install KNowit, is so... i really need help :(05:29
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NaliothLinforcer, sacrifices?05:29
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gwildors/ galelry/gallery05:30
LinforcerNalioth yes, such as that there is no driver for my webcam05:30
spiralhmmm, is anyone here working on updating ooo2 testing release in breezy or do I still have to use alien ?05:30
NaliothLinforcer, really? one would think that there would be something out there05:30
LinforcerNalioth and Nalioth, well the fact is, it's a digital camera which can also be used as a webcam05:30
NaliothLinforcer, ah05:31
LinforcerNalioth so noone bothered to make more than just the "get pics from it" kinda thing05:31
LinforcerIt works in that aspect05:31
NaliothLinforcer, and the linux webcam stuff don't work either, eh?05:31
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dcravensig: tell me those ducks are sleeping.05:31
elektrolyyttiwhere can i change gnome-phone-manager connection password?05:31
LinforcerI don't know, where would i find generic webca, drivers?05:31
sigdcraven: sure05:31
sigpeacfully05:32
sighah05:32
dcravensig: Cool :)05:32
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dcravensig: they look a little heavy.05:32
sigbig ducks05:32
elektrolyyttimy phone asks pswd when my pc connects to it with gnome-phone-manager but i never set one :S05:32
dcravenhaha05:32
marioany have problems with nvidia drivers? (xorg freezing)05:32
donblashey all, is there a gui search for apt-get?05:32
NaliothLinforcer, did you search sourceforge?05:33
dcravendonblas: synaptic05:33
cyhhello i have a question about firewalls, i would like to make a rule that was like that denies all connections from a particular port unless they come from a given ip. how do i do that?05:33
sigdonblas: synaptec05:33
LinforcerNalioth: yeah, but that was months ago05:33
donblasdcraven: thanks05:33
LinforcerNalioth: and I wasnt sure what to look for... I guess Im still not05:33
sigsystem > administration > synaptic package manager05:33
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Linforcercurses, now where did that cam go05:34
NaliothLinforcer, "webcam" would be my first shot05:34
kart_donblas: Computer--> system Config -->Synaptic05:34
Linforcerhaha yeah05:34
Linforceryou wanna know how many results you'd get?05:34
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karlnalioth: you'd think, except that installing gdal-dev seems to want gnome-bin, as part of unixodbc.05:35
karlwhy on earth gnome-bin would be needed is beyond me.05:35
NaliothLinforcer, can't you do advanced search "linux only"05:35
Naliothkarl arent you on ubuntu? i would think gnome-bin would be here05:36
ncpi have just updatede kernel-headers an installede nvidia drivers for my gfx. but now, when i apt-get etc. xmms an execute in terminal i just get "segmentation fault" i have triede with other apps to, but same error... do anybody know about this error?05:36
LinforcerYeah, I guess. I'll check it out after I had brea.... wtf 5 PM...well... definitly time for "breakfast" (I work nightshifts :P)05:36
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DelgulHmm... Can I tweak esd somewhere? It is not playing nice with totem/goom. Goom is really not smooth...05:37
karlnalioth: I'm on ubuntu yes.05:37
DelgulWhen I run it with oss it is smooth tho05:37
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ThomasWinwoodaaaaargh05:37
ThomasWinwoodCan't mount the floppy/05:37
ThomasWinwood.*05:37
karlnalioth: it is now anyway, gdal-dev wanted all this cruft05:38
karl  gnome-bin gnome-libs-data gtkodbcconfig0 libart2 libgdal1-dev libgnome3205:38
karl  libgnomesupport0 libgnomeui32 libgnorba27 libgnorbagtk0 libltdl3-dev05:38
karl  libodbcinstq1 liborbit0 unixodbc-dev05:38
karlthe best bit is I don't even know if grass is goign to do what I want :)05:39
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ThomasWinwooddcraven, help please.05:39
dcravenThomasWinwood: What's the problem?05:39
sandyeggoboyhello, i need some help with a new install05:39
sandyeggoboyi cant get my monitor to see 1024x768, stays at 800x60005:40
svalThomasWinwood: mount /dev/fd0 /media/somedirectory05:40
Naliothkarl, can't help u with the cruft05:40
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ThomasWinwoodsval: It says something about not finding a filesystem.05:40
davegahanhow can I retrieve files from my linux partition when my MBR is corrupted - I have a GRUB error ?05:41
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sandyeggoboymy monitor is a Dell 1501FP LCD monitor, and my video card is embeded05:41
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svalThomasWinwood: mount -vfat /dev/fd0 /media/somedirectory ?05:41
karlnalioth: it's ok, it's just hard drive space.05:41
dcravenThomasWinwood: try "mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/somedirectory"05:41
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rootanyone see this?05:42
Naliothkarl that is true, cruft on linux is more efficient than m$ cruft, heh heh05:42
dcravenroot: see what?05:42
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svalroot: yes ... but don't chat on irc with your root account05:42
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rootdcraven: that. me typing. ok. i just tried debian, i'm coming back to ubuntu this is a mess.05:43
svalroot: it's just a advise05:43
cyhso does anyone have recomendations for a firewall?05:43
rootsval: thats all i have now man, thanx :)05:43
dcravenroot: I'd heed sval's advice.05:43
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dcravenheh05:43
svalroot: debian a mess ?05:43
Naliothcyh why do you need a firewall?05:43
rootyeah...well let them hack in, i'm removing this.05:43
cyhnalioth - i wan't to restrict connectoins to certian ports from certian ip address05:44
rootsval: yes my x server wont start, nothing. they kept ignoring me on #debian so i thought no one could see me typing either05:44
Naliothcyh ah ubuntu doesnt listen to nonactive ports by default05:44
karlnalioth: I'm not actually convinced that's the case, it may do less damage perhaps,05:44
rootsval: most of the packages screwed up anyway.05:44
svalroot: the default config on debian for xserver is a common proble05:44
karlbut it's a lot harder to get rid of cruft, and to prevent cruft.05:44
ThomasWinwood#debian has a reputation of being a$$holes.05:45
karlyou just have to accept it.05:45
svalroot: just change the vsync and hsync in /etc/X11/XF86Config-405:45
karlthat's because AJ didn't win :(05:45
dcravensval: Debian still uses xfree no?05:45
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cyhnalioth - yes i noticed this ( i just installed ubuntu 1h ago and everything is ready except i need firewall) but i have ssh and ftp running05:45
svaldcraven: yes05:45
dcravensval: okay.. apparently.05:45
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Naliothcyh is the machine only for your use?05:45
rootsval: yeah i'll try, but i think i'll switch back to ubuntu. any reason why reiserfs would be a problem?05:46
svalroot, no reiserfs is a very good filesystem05:46
sandyeggoboythanks sval .. will try that now05:46
cyhnalioth - the machien is going to be used like this, me and my roomate are going to ssh to it and use it to download stuff with bittorrent then upload the stuff to our computers when they are done05:46
gwildorcyh. really isnt a reason for a firewall in ubuntu......kinda overkill05:46
Naliothcyh, turn off the ftp server05:47
rootsval: my hsync and vsyn is perfect. i dint even put it in, and it exactly by the manual.05:47
elcuThe *REAL* debian channel (apparently): irc.openprojects.org #debian05:47
Naliothcyh use sftp05:47
cyhnalioth i am using vsftpd now05:47
Naliothcyh no longer need a firewall05:47
elcuI've read it's more friendly than freenodes.05:47
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dcravenWe're all buttheads on freenode :)05:48
cyhthis is my first time really using linux, i am more familure with unix and ipfw05:48
svalroot: so, look at /var/log/XFree86.0.log it will help you05:48
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elcudcraven: sometimes.  u have to admit that #ubuntu is quite good though. :)05:48
dcravenelcu: I think so too.05:48
rootsval: what is the mouse mount point?05:48
sandyeggoboyhmm.. i am using xorg05:49
gwildorsval, (i cant remember the command or I would tell him myself), have him do dpkg-reconfigure (or whatever it is suppsoed to be)05:49
Naliothcyh, ubuntu is listen-only by default05:49
fateisajesteri have a weird prob.... for some reason the ati drivers for my radeon 7000 dont work, so i have to use generic radeon drivers...ok... but what is weird is in gnome i have a higher fps than in kde.. anyone know why?05:49
Naliothcvh if you are only running sshd you should be good to go05:49
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cyhnalioth - see that but i wan't to restict the ips that can connect to ssh and ftp05:49
rootgwildor: u mean the command. format, go to www.ubuntulinux.com and dowload ubuntu?05:49
elcufateisajester: how much higher?05:49
sandyeggoboy/var/log/XFree86.0.log: No such file or directory05:49
fateisajester100-15005:50
cyhwell can one "get" like with ssh as they can with ftp ?05:50
svalroot: /dev/input/mice05:50
svalProtocol IMPS205:50
karlno, but they can with sftp and scp which run over ssh05:50
karlso yes.05:50
Naliothcyh are your pwds not good enough? sorry i know nothing of iptables or whatever05:50
svalroot: for an usb mouse05:50
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fateisajesterweird,right05:50
rootsval: so its not that. i dont have a usb mouse05:50
Naliothcyh what karl said05:51
gwildorroot, not what I meant at all05:51
svalroot: /dev/psuax05:51
karlif they have a good ftp client it will already do sftp anyway05:51
dcravensval: /dev/psaux then I think.05:51
svalroot: /dev/psaux05:51
cyhmy ftp server is set up as anon at this time and i would rather use ip address as verification rather then passwed05:51
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dcravenerr.. root I meant.05:51
gwildorroot, I was asking him to tell you the command to just reconfigure your Xserver, instead of manually editing files05:51
Choubakaroot: are you ircing as root? why? :|05:51
karlif you are concerend about security, turn off the anon ftp.05:51
sandyeggoboyi tried to do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but then it says it can not deiplay that setting05:51
svalgwildor: root try dpkg-reconfigure common-xserver05:52
elcufateisajester: yeah :) dunno.  maybe kde uses more resources?05:52
cyhkarl but if i can block all but the two ip address that are going to use it then there is no security issue05:52
karlftp is outdated, screw it, it's a pain to get through nat, just use http if you want anon file downloads05:52
sandyeggoboycommon-xserver?05:52
fateisajestermaybe.... do you know anyone who has had success with ati drivers for this card05:52
Naliothcyh, sorry you are asking things i know not05:52
cyhapache is big commpared to vsftpd05:52
rootsval: /me ircing as root, because me in terminal with only root05:53
Choubakakarl: what's painful in a simple port forward?05:53
karlwebfsd05:53
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karlchoubaka: you help him then :)05:53
Naliothcyh, i'd just use ONLY ssh for all uses05:53
cyhthats ok nalioth i don't know either05:53
karlI'm trying to tell himi to do it a different way :)05:53
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Choubakaroot: ?|05:53
cyhif i could "get" with ssh this would be perfect05:53
Choubakaroot: start a terminal as a normal user.05:53
karlyou can, aren't you paying attention?05:53
karlit's called sftp, it runs over ssh05:53
rootsval: whats the command again missed it05:54
karlyou can also use scp with *, though some implementations consider that unsafe.05:54
svalsandyeggoboy: xserver-common & xserver-xorg05:54
rootChoubaka: i dont care to get hacked right now :)05:54
Naliothcyh to "get" with ssh use sftp or scp like karl said05:54
Choubakaroot: hoh :P05:54
elcufateisajester: i personally just followed the binary howto (on a 9600pro).  i haven't benchmarked gnome vs kde though.05:54
Naliothcyh gftp uses "sftp" and "scp"05:54
cyhi will look into sftp adn scp after i check out the firewall options further05:54
svalroot: dpkf-reconfigure xserver-xfree or xserver-common05:54
cyhi apperciate your help05:55
dcravenI'm outta here.. Off to school. Cheers!05:55
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svalroot: root dpkg*05:55
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WhiteRabbitroot, your gonna love this05:56
rootsval: should any user be able to use it?05:56
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rootWhiteRabbit: u gonna kill me?05:56
sandyeggoboyi set mine for console ony05:56
rootWhiteRabbit: one way of getting me back to ubuntu faster05:56
rootsval: only konsole users should be allowed to use xfree?05:57
svalroot: no05:57
svalroot: just root05:57
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svalroot: use xfree ? you just want to configure it05:58
rootsval: ok05:58
gwildorsval, ty05:58
ThomasWinwoodOkay, I got ndiswrapper working and have used the driver.05:59
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NeoCicakhelo... is it just me, that for the last 2 weeks, there has been no update for ubuntu (nothing appears when i execute apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade)06:00
NaliothNeoCicak, are you using hoary?06:00
holycowheh06:00
NeoCicakNalioth: yes06:00
holycowwhen you mount a floppy, linux actually 'caches' the entire contents of the floppy06:00
NaliothNeoCicak, you are using a "finalized" distro06:01
zerokarmaleftNeoCicak, that's because hoary is stable now06:01
holycowyou can pull the floppy out, as long as its mounted, you can open the docs ... at least i can this one06:01
holycowstrange06:01
NeoCicakoh ok...06:01
NeoCicakso no update is available?06:01
NaliothNeoCicak, the only thing comin now is security updates06:01
NaliothNeoCicak, hopefully we won't see any06:01
NeoCicaknalioth... where can i get that from?06:01
joshua__um hello. im having a problem with my computer being stuck in 640x480 and i can seem to change it. i tried running xorgconfig but it went screwy after that so i just deleted it is there any automatic xsetup that can fix my problem. I seem to remember slackware had something called xorgsetup06:01
joshua__can't*06:01
NaliothNeoCicak, they add them to their end when needed06:02
elcuholycow: weird == cool06:02
NeoCicakic.. thx06:02
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elcujoshua__: have you set your monitor refresh rates in xorg.conf?06:03
spiralI can't install ubuntu-desktop under breezy...06:03
holycowelcu, indeedy06:03
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spiralubuntu-desktop: Depends: contact-lookup-applet but it is not going to be installed06:04
spiral                  Depends: evolution but it is not going to be installed06:04
spiral                  Depends: evolution-exchange but it is not going to be installed06:04
spiral                  Depends: gnomemeeting but it is not going to be installed06:04
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spiral                  Depends: nautilus-sendto but it is not going to be installed06:04
spiralis it normal ? what should I do ?06:04
Naliothspiral, you are a white lab rat06:04
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cyhok one more question how do i see how much traffic is happening over my ethernet card?06:04
Naliothspiral, breezy is way beyond "unstable"06:04
NeoCicakspiral: have u tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?06:04
NeoCicakis breezy the next coming ubuntu ?06:04
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spiralNeoCicak: yes, but in unstable position for now06:05
NaliothNeoCicak, yes06:05
joshua__elcu no i havent i know them i don't know how and where in xorg to add them06:05
NaliothNeoCicak, if you use it, you should change your title to "test subject"06:05
NeoCicakah ok....06:05
spiralNalioth: I know, but I thought that it should at least allow me to install ubuntu-desktop06:05
elcujoshua__: join #flood and i'll post my section06:06
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Naliothspiral, i don't think breezy is gonna be anywhere near useable on a day-to-day basis for a while06:06
ThomasWinwoodHmm. Okay. I've configured ndiswrapper and the driver seems to be present and correct, shows up in ndiswrapper -l.06:06
spiralNalioth: I've been using hoary in test since december... and I didn't have too much problems06:06
ThomasWinwoodWhat do I do now? The wireless card does not show up in System > Admin > Networking.06:06
Naliothspiral, breezy is just now getting started...try back in 2 months (like you did with hoary)06:07
holycowhey guys, if i connected to a server, and the link appears on my desktop, then if i want to search a file on that mounted link ... where in the file search dialog can i find the mounted server connection?06:07
spiralNalioth: all right... I'll wait a little06:07
holycowit appears on the desktop but when you browse to destkop of course you cannot see themount point06:08
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jonoI have plugged in my iRiver and it appears to only come up read-only - it used to work, can anyone suggest why it is readonly now?06:09
Naliothjono <grumble> unsafe interaction with windoze puters? </grumble>06:09
jonoNalioth, huh?06:10
Naliothjono sorry was a joke06:10
ThomasWinwoodWhat do I do now I've configured the driver for my wireless card in ndiswrapper? The wireless card does not show up in System > Admin > Networking.06:10
jonono probs :)06:10
Seveasholycow, how did you connect?06:11
Naliothjono IMO windoze screws things up as a matter of fact06:11
jonoit should work on here, I have no idea why it doesnt06:11
holycowSeveas, yep, works great infact06:11
ThomasWinwoodWhat do I do now I've configured the driver for my wireless card in ndiswrapper? The wireless card does not show up in System > Admin > Networking.06:12
SeveasSeveas, i asked HOW, like what kind of server is it?06:12
Seveasnarf06:12
Seveasi meant holycow06:12
holycowi think what i'm noticing here is that the 'places in the panel' & 'places in nautilus' & 'places in file selector dialog' are not synched and they should be06:12
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holycowSeveas, rofl06:12
holycowwindows share, network, via places > connect to server06:13
Dmosthi every one06:13
Seveasah ok :)06:13
Dmostalguien habla castellano06:13
Linforcernot me06:14
marioDmost, join to #ubuntu-es06:14
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NeoCicakdoes anyone know .CHM file reader for ubuntu?06:14
zerokarmaleftxchm06:14
NaliothNeoCicak, kchm?06:14
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ThomasWinwoodWhat do I do now I've configured the driver for my wireless card in ndiswrapper? The wireless card does not show up in System > Admin > Networking.06:15
NeoCicakchm06:15
NeoCicakthe windows help file06:15
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NeoCicakoh06:15
NeoCicakis that the program name?06:15
zerokarmaleftNeoCicak, xCHM06:15
NeoCicakkchm?06:15
Mace68hi everyone06:15
Seveasholycow, i'm puzzled too, i just tried to do the same and it shows up in the nautilus tree but not when i browse "~/Desktop" in Nautilus06:15
mariognochm.sourceforge.net/06:15
NeoCicakthx a lot!06:15
NaliothDmost, hablamos espanol en el #ubuntu-es06:15
marioCHM viewer for GNOME06:15
Seveasit's a gnome-vfs thing06:16
NaliothNeoCicak, yes both are chm proggys06:16
Seveasso it's not actually mounted06:16
NeoCicakk... thx a lot!06:16
holycowSeveas, exactly, those three 'places' are not synched.... its some perverse reasoning behind why stuff is there ... i think this needs to be notified to the gnome people06:16
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holycowbasically 'places' should access all vfs stuff at all times as mounted06:16
Seveasholycow, not really06:17
ThomasWinwoodWhat do I do now I've configured the driver for my wireless card in ndiswrapper? The wireless card does not show up in System > Admin > Networking.06:17
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Seveasmounting is a different concept06:17
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Seveasmounting is integrating it in the filesystem06:17
Seveasgnome-vfs does not do that06:17
Mace68any idea why my cd burning progs can't access my external usb cd/rw drive unless I chmod 777?06:17
Seveasso this is by design :)06:17
holycowgnom-vfs does the translation?06:17
SeveasMace68, you might not be in the correct group (but i don't know that for sure)06:17
Seveasholycow, yes06:18
holycowwell whatever actually handles the 'links' between various file systems, it should all be in places06:18
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Seveasif you browse the link, it says 'smb:///something'06:18
Seveasand not '/somewhere/in/filesystem06:18
Seveas'06:18
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holycowright, but regardles where it is in vfs space, if its accessible, all apps should have access to it as per file permissions via a single dialog imho ... ?06:19
Dmosttengo una pregunta para los que hablan espaol06:19
Mace68Seveas: I checked that and I am in the same group as the drive is06:19
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holycowSeveas, not arguing with you btw :) just saying06:19
marioDmost, no estas jodiendo? ya te dijimos que en #ubuntu-es puedes consultar en tu idioma!06:19
Seveasholycow, i agree on that :)06:19
tredic' qualche italiano che mi pu aiutare06:19
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tredio qualcuno che scrive in italiano06:20
Linforcer>.>06:21
ThomasWinwoodWhat do I do now I've configured the driver for my wireless card in ndiswrapper? The wireless card does not show up in System > Admin > Networking.06:22
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holycowbah i hate windows06:22
holycowevery goddamned app now has its own update manager06:22
Linforcerholycow don'y we all?06:22
holycowand of course the acrobat7 updater is stuck06:22
Linforcerof course06:22
holycowmofo piece of crap, i don't understand who thinks this shit is enterprise ready06:22
LinforcerAcrobat?06:23
holycowthe whole windows side of things06:23
holycowits all crap06:23
Roger_Martinsubuntu is 100% free ?06:23
holycowRoger_Martins, yes06:23
LinforcerRoger_Martins: 100%06:23
_linux_newbThomasWinwood, modprobe ndiswrapper06:23
Roger_Martinsthanks06:23
LinforcerYou could buy tech support for it06:23
Linforcerthat would cost monah06:23
holycowwhich is actually a good thing, i like buying support06:24
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Linforcerbut the community offers free support , which unless you're in a hurry and/.or running a company06:24
Linforceris all you need06:24
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ThomasWinwood_linux_newb: no discernable effect.06:24
stantonwhat is the preferred method to disable ipv6 in ubuntu?06:24
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_linux_newbwell the driver should be loaded now06:25
ThomasWinwoodSo what now?06:26
graabeinhi! im gonna dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now...06:26
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_linux_newbtry iwconfig see what shows06:26
graabeinwhat driver do i choose? nv or nvidia? i want the ubuntu-default, not nvidia binary06:26
holycowThomasWinwood, if you get silence when yo modprobe it means it installde the driver correctly without error06:26
_linux_newbgraabein, nv06:26
graabeinthanks06:26
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holycowin unix if things work you get no message, you only get 'discernable effects' when things go wrong06:27
SQL_Samis there any open source fax type software?06:27
ThomasWinwoodNo wireless connections showing in iwconfig.06:27
holycowyour next step is to configure an ip address for your eth card and bring it up06:27
amichaican someone tell me if kubuntu is the same as ubuntu just with kde instead of gnome or is there a structure difference?06:27
ThomasWinwoodRight.06:27
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Naliothamichai, same thing, differnt gui06:27
amichaiNalioth: it acts very differently06:27
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_linux_newbThomasWinwood, does iwconfig list wlan0 or something similar06:28
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Naliothamichai, i think kde and gnome do act differently06:28
amichaiNalioth: like in cedega it wont auto mount the cds, but in ubuntu it does06:28
karlstanton, did you get an answer on turning off ipv6?06:28
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graabein_linux_newb, i have nvidia geforce 6600 gt - do i disable "dri"?06:28
karlI'm looking for an answer too :)06:28
stantonkarl: no06:28
amichaiNalioth: so u saying it at the desktop level?06:28
Naliothamichai, cedega is a program, ubuntu is an operating system06:28
_linux_newbgraabein, with nv i believe you can leave it06:28
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graabeinokay, ill try that06:28
syndok i have a printer connected to my Apple Airport Express Base Station and it prints wirelessly from my Macs. is there any way to get it to print wirelessly from ubuntu?06:28
ringmaueri have problems with my repositories, anywone who can help?06:29
amichaiNalioth: also when i installed ubuntu and then did apt-get kubuntu-desktop kde worked much better than just off the kubuntu cd06:29
amichaiNalioth: i know the difference thank u :)06:29
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ringmauerplease06:29
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trediqualche italiano on line?06:30
syndok i have a printer connected to my Apple Airport Express Base Station and it prints wirelessly from my Macs. is there any way to get it to print wirelessly from ubuntu?06:30
amichaiNalioth: just hard to believe that the gui is the only difference. it acts like a different distro06:30
ThomasWinwood_linux_newb: no wlan0.06:30
rymanringmauer | http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories06:30
syndamichai: check out xfce4 or fluxbox06:30
Naliothamichai,  i find that kubuntu is a bit snappier then the gnome on my iBook06:30
_linux_newbwhat does it show?06:30
_linux_newbeth1?06:30
ThomasWinwoodeth0 sit0 and lo.06:30
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_linux_newbwell, none of those are wireless06:30
Naliothamichai, it's kind of weird, as you say, what with the same engine underneath it all06:30
amichaiNalioth: dont get me wrong, i like kubuntu, just seems different at a deeper level than desktop06:30
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amichaisynd: i tried xfce like it lots.06:31
ringmauerryman, yes, but can you send me a copy of your repostitories list, because all my ubuntu orig repositories is wrong, my misstake :-/06:31
amichaisynd: never tried fluxbox06:31
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syndfluxbox is quite minimalist06:31
syndand runs quite well on older machines06:31
Naliothamichai, i'm just a poor ol' self-taught user (who can't do nothin on his PPC/linux)06:31
amichaiNalioth: thats what i mean. its the same engine?06:31
amichaiNalioth: me too06:32
DaBladehello06:32
syndNalioth: did you get rid of OSX?06:32
DaBladeI have a strange apt-get problem06:32
rymanringmauer | whats your email ?06:32
DaBladecan someone help me?06:32
ringmauerryman, karlsson.victor@gmail.com06:32
ringmauerthanks a lot06:32
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amichaiDaBlade: just ask, and who wants/can help will06:32
Abesorry guys, noob here- Which type of OS is compatible with the widest variety of hardware? I have a wireless networking card that has some pretty crappy drivers.06:32
Naliothsynd, no i dual boot but rarely use the OSX06:33
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karlwindows06:33
syndAbe: Ubuntu does just fine06:33
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busfahrerAbe: Windows06:33
Abeit should work with my card?06:33
rymanringmauer | np, done06:33
Naliothamichai, same guts underneath, i guess KDE is better engineered or something06:33
DaBladewell whenever I run apt-get update, I get this at the end:06:33
DaBladeGet:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Sources [231kB] 06:33
Abei have windows06:33
syndAbe: ever use linux?06:33
DaBlade99% [4 Sources gzip 0] 06:33
DaBladegzip: stdin: not in gzip format06:33
amichaikarl:how can u possibly recommened windows to anyone? i feel bad when i charge customers for fixing it06:33
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DaBladeErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Sources06:33
DaBlade  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)06:33
karleasy, it works.06:33
DaBladeFetched 4B in 14s (0B/s)06:33
DaBladeFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)06:33
DaBladeReading package lists... Done06:33
DaBladeE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.06:33
DaBladeroot@LinuxP2P:/home/dablade #06:33
Abelol- i tried dynebolic recently and hated it06:33
karlyou've got to look at what people actually want to do with their computers.06:34
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DaBladesi cab someone help me fix this?06:34
syndNalioth: i tried putting Ubuntu on my iBook G4 but the installer went super weird on me06:34
DaBlade*so can06:34
eliAnybody: after upgrading to 5.04, do I change all sources to this version?06:34
ringmauerryman, tnx alot06:34
amichaikarl: u need to write a howto, cos i never found one amongst my customers that worked. then again it depends on deffinition.06:34
syndNalioth: the screen got divided by 4 horizontally and only the left 1/3 of the image was showing06:34
SQL_Samis there any open source fax type software?06:34
Mace68Is there any way to stop nautilus from taking over a blank cd when I insert it?06:34
Fackamatoof course there is06:34
FackamatoSQL_Sam: google06:34
karlperhaps for your customers windows wasn't what they needed06:34
BurgundaviaSQL_Sam, look at gfax06:35
Abeyou guys have been a great help. Thanks!06:35
Abe:-)06:35
syndAbe: no prob06:35
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BurgundaviaMace68, simple close the window06:35
BurgundaviaMace68, you can burn it normally06:35
syndugh anyone help me with my printer thing?06:35
syndi have a printer connected to my Apple Airport Express Base Station and it prints wirelessly from my Macs. is there any way to get it to print wirelessly from ubuntu?06:35
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abarbacciahey guys, anybody get adobe reader working with ubuntu?06:36
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karlhow backward compabible is libc6 2.3.4 with 2.3.2?  (ie breezy with hoary)06:36
rymanabarbaccia | yes06:36
amichaikarl: ok i get u. The point is though that people who want windows are people who generally think that unless u pay for an OS then its crap. Also they hate change, and being different, so they want what everyone else has. Or its just kids who only care about the games. Then again u can sum it up in three words "lazy,lazy,lazy"06:36
Mace68Burgundavia: What about the "Blank CD-RW Disc" icon that's on the desktop? Does that mean it's somehow mounted?06:36
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tecedGuess we have too many questions here, but all I want to know is how can I get Real Player 10 installed on ubuntu 5.04?!06:36
DaBladeCan someone please help me?06:37
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phenotype_real player sucks06:37
amichaiteced: www.ubuntuguide.com06:37
eliAnybody: after upgrading to 5.04, do I change all sources to this version?06:37
tecedBut the BBC uses Real Player so I have no option...06:37
karlamichai: I can't help with  your users perspectives, but for a lot of people, windows is the answer.06:37
amichaior is it .org ?06:37
amichaiwww.ubuntuguide.org06:37
karlfor a lot people using windows though, it's not what they should be using06:37
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phenotype_bbc uses a good version of real player actually06:37
DaBladeAnyone? please06:37
phenotype_no junk to it06:37
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karleli: yes.06:38
phenotype_hold on a sec teced, let me see if i can find something06:38
tecedYes, it does but I'm having to boot up Windows just so I can receive BBC video news!!06:38
decafDaBlade: I haven't see your question06:38
amichaikarl: man all i get from people is "why is this so slow? why do i have porn on my comp? why is that naked icon on my desktop? i dont look at that stuff! whay are my documents missing, why do i get a pop every day saying "ur f$%$"06:39
DaBladelook up ^06:39
DaBladeteced: Install Xine, Xine-ui and xine-w3206:39
karlteced: you couldn't get realplayer 10 from the restrictd formats wiki?06:39
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syndamichai: i hear that06:39
DaBladethat should make you capable of playing windoze media, realmedia and quicktime06:39
teced??? newbee - restricted formats wikki??!!06:39
syndamichai: i have completely done away with windows06:39
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amichaikarl: the only time i saw windows working, was if it was on a closed network with no internet access06:40
phenotype_you need to get the realplayer codecs, and you can play real on anything06:40
karlhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:40
phenotype_im trying to find them06:40
tecedWell I want to get rid of windows but his is about the only thing left...06:40
karldo it anyway you want.06:40
karlamichai: I used windows pretty much day in day out, and my problems came from the lack of a proper shell.06:40
amichaisynd: me too. i used to have both, but it somehow ended up affecting my linux, it was weird.06:40
karlbut user education sucks06:40
syndamichai: wow, thats weird06:41
BurgundaviaMace68, no06:41
syndamichai: windows is so stupid06:41
BurgundaviaMace68, well, it is mounted, but nautilus will not touch it unless you say so06:41
syndamichai: i admit im gonna try out longhorn when it comes around in a few years06:41
tecedI've learned more in the 30 seconds here than hours searching the web.06:41
Naliothsynd, we apple hardware users are at the end of the line when it comes to dev work06:41
decafwhich app. can download except mplayer? I hate that unstable crap06:41
amichaikarl: ok point taken. if people knew how to use windows it wouldnt be such a security risk, still risky but not as risky, but people who use windows, are of the lazy generation who want everything at no effort.06:41
BurgundaviaMace68, ie, you can burn with gravemen/coaster etc. to your hearts content and nothing is going to happen06:41
tecedTHNAKS Guys and Galls!!!06:41
syndNalioth: thats true06:41
tecedThanks...!06:41
DaBladedecaf did you find it?06:41
decaf*can download streams06:42
rymanwhats so special about Longhorn ? why are ppl waiting for it ?06:42
karlamichai: if all those people start using linux, the same thing's going to happen :)06:42
Naliothsynd, and that is funny, cuz apple hardware is known stuff (no bllions of combinations like on windoze)06:42
decafDaBlade: you look up and see when I joined .06:42
syndkarl: i dont think so06:42
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DaBladeoops... lol06:42
phenotype_who was looking for real player?06:42
tecedI've found the wikki and will work from that point on.06:42
amichaikarl: not true. that is a mistake many make. "viruses are not common on linux because not many people use linux" the same as for bugs06:42
DaBlade[18:33]  <DaBlade> well whenever I run apt-get update, I get this at the end:06:42
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karlI'd love to tell you more, but it's time for me to make a bus trip06:42
DaBlade[18:33]  <DaBlade> Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Sources [231kB] 06:42
karl*waves*06:42
DaBlade[18:33]  <DaBlade> 99% [4 Sources gzip 0] 06:43
abarbacciaryman how did you go about getting adobe to work?06:43
phenotype_not sure if this will work, but its worth a try http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm06:43
DaBlade[18:33]  <DaBlade> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format06:43
DaBlade[18:33]  <DaBlade> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Sources06:43
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syndblade06:43
DaBlade[18:33]  <DaBlade>  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)06:43
Ironfrostamichai - if you're claiming that Linux doesn't have many bugs, you're crazy06:43
abarbacciaryman, i'm assuming in hoary?06:43
syndDaBlade: chill06:43
DaBlade[18:33]  <DaBlade> Fetched 4B in 14s (0B/s)06:43
DaBlade[18:33]  <DaBlade> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/source/Sources.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)06:43
DaBlade[18:33]  <DaBlade> Reading package lists... Done06:43
DaBlade[18:33]  <DaBlade> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.06:43
DaBlade[18:33]  <DaBlade> root@LinuxP2P:/home/dablade #06:43
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amichaikarl: its total bs! the way windows is made, its like being constantly logged in as root, its a disaster, a self inflicted one by microsoft06:43
rymanabarbaccia | did you try the www.ubuntuguide.org ?06:43
tecedBy the way, I've tried several distros and Ubuntu has been the only one that seems "grown up", stable and able to read my LaCie external drive with no fuss.06:43
DaBladeumm..lol I'm not angry or anything synd06:43
decafDaBlade: don't paste hear, use channel #flood06:43
Ironfrostor at least, if you're claiming linux distros don't have many bugs06:43
holycowkarl, apache controls 70% of the internet webservers, most vlunerabilities out there are for iis06:43
syndDaBlade: dont flood06:43
DaBladeok sorry06:43
IronfrostI'm running into them far more often than on Windows06:43
amichaiIronfrost: no i'm not. software bugs is something else. I'm talking about spyware and adware06:43
rymanabarbaccia | http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#acroread06:43
Ironfrostah, that sort of bug06:44
Ironfrostmy apologies06:44
holycowpercentage use case is not a good way to think about viruses and such06:44
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phenotype_who was looking for real player 1006:44
tecedME!!!06:44
rymanteced06:44
Ironfrostpersonally I think the problem isn't quantity of users, it's how skilled they are06:44
Burgundaviaryman, abarbaccia I would use evince It is free and non contaminated with spyware, which adobe is06:44
amichaiIronfrost: the one that cause that little girl to end up on www.grannys.com instead of on www.foxkids.com06:44
phenotype_try this06:44
phenotype_http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm06:44
Ironfrostmost Linux users would never get spyware or viruses, even on Windows06:44
phenotype_might work, maybe not06:44
phenotype_use the codecs06:44
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syndIronfrost: thats true as well06:45
holycowIronfrost, the interaction between users and computers is complex06:45
Naliothteced you might also look at the helix project, i think06:45
tecedThanks phenotype...06:45
phenotype_yep06:45
rymanhi Burgundavia06:45
amichaiIronfrost: the only way i didnt get them on windows is by having so many apps that, in the end my pc is just a spyware defense system06:45
syndIronfrost: i have converted many many people to Firefox on windows and have gotten them to use SpybotSnD on a regular basis06:45
tecedHelix won't play RealPlayer format...06:45
holycowIronfrost, there is a lot to be said for your point, but as well for having a 'secure by default' platform as well ... at least by design anyway06:45
Burgundaviaryman, salut06:45
amichaisynd: dont forget the firewall06:46
phenotype_you can use any medial player, if you have the proper codecs installed06:46
syndamichai: of course : p06:46
Ironfrostsynd, amichai - I guess that's a good point06:46
Ironfrostgood windows practice mostly consists of "don't use microsoft programs"06:46
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synddoes ubuntu have a built in firewall?06:46
amichaiIronfrost: lol06:46
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amichaiIronfrost: man ur talking to someone who refused to leave windows, until my wife said, get linux, windows is making me miserable06:46
tecedOne of the reasons I shifted to linux was the amount of time I spent ensuring that the thing was secure. In the end I must have been using a third of the processor just defending the machine from spyware and viruses. A complete waste of time and money.06:47
holycowIronfrost, as funny as that is, it also happens to be true06:47
holycowamichai, your wife said that?06:47
Ironfrostheh, I'm in the opposite situation06:47
amichaiIronfrost: i saw linux as primitive06:47
amichaiholycow: yes06:47
syndteced: exactly06:47
holycowdon't be spreading that around in geek channels06:47
holycow:)06:47
IronfrostI shifted to Linux, and my girlfriend is trying to get me to convert back06:47
amichaiholycow: lol06:47
DaBladeignore her :P06:47
Ironfrostbecause there's no MSN client with webcam support06:47
syndtime for a new girlfriend06:47
holycowIronfrost, lol, why?06:47
amichaiIronfrost: what is she missing?06:47
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decafDaBlade: #'s are ok06:47
holycowhaha06:47
AstralJavasynd: Good one. :)06:48
DaBladeironfrost not quite06:48
amichaiIronfrost: yeah that sucks06:48
DaBladelook at this06:48
DaBladegaim-vv.sf.net06:48
mjrIronfrost, tell her to use gnomemeeting :06:48
Naliothsynd ubuntu is listen-only by default06:48
DaBladeit's Gaim with video/audio support06:48
Ironfrostthere's GNUmeeting or whatever, but that doesn't talk to MSN06:48
syndNalioth: i see06:48
amichaiIronfrost: but there is a new gaim, dont know much about it, should work06:48
tecedI do a lot of presentations and I've shifted to linux on my mobile with no problems (but only using ubuntu as the other distros couldn't handle hibernation)06:48
Ironfrostdablade - I'll check that out06:48
rymanI'm dual booting XP and ubuntu and Ubuntu lag06:48
mjrIronfrost, well, it does talk to MS Netmeeting06:48
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DaBladeI think they've temporarily disabled msn support because of some bug06:48
Naliothsynd, there is a firewall, but if nobody knows your there, whats the point?06:48
DaBladebut I'm not sure, as I haven't checked out the site in ages, nor do I use it06:48
decafgaim's jabber support is also buggy06:49
amichaiteced: so ubuntu is succesful in hibernation?06:49
graabeinanyone care to help me with nvidia drivers...06:49
DaBladedecaf thanks06:49
decafyw06:49
tecedYes, ubunut hibernates06:49
syndNalioth: ah i see.. thats cool. i didnt know that.06:49
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holycowpersonally, i refuse to chat with anyone on msn06:49
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DaBladegraabein what's the problem?06:49
amichairyman: thats the issue i had06:49
holycowif you have a hotmail account, your a retard, plain and simple06:49
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syndGaim is the way to go.06:49
amichairyman: i had xp and ubuntu, then the internet on ubuntu sucked06:49
graabeinDaBlade, x wont start06:49
holycowmy blacklist is quite extensive :)06:49
holycowhehe06:49
syndanything MSN is junko06:49
DaBladeoh06:49
amichairyman: i dont get it to this day06:49
DaBladehave you edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf properly?06:49
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phenotype_.net (aka) give us you're identity06:50
JaGWiRE```i liked kopete / gaim if I remember.06:50
graabeinDaBlade, I reinstalled nvidia-glx and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:50
JaGWiRE```FOr irc, x-chat or irssiii?06:50
amichairyman: so i removed all and installed ubuntu and it was all good, never gone back since06:50
DaBladeno lol06:50
graabeinDaBlade, and i ran nvidia-glx-config enable06:50
Naliothmy ubuntu doesnt hibernate for sh*t (i'm on a iBook)06:50
rymanamichai | sometime Ubuntu froze06:50
DaBladedo it the right way06:50
tecedWell I'm off now - really glad I came across this chat room.06:50
amichairyman: right06:50
tanekehm, sorry, but how do i start win4lin? :D06:50
rymanamichai | I need to keep XP for my sis , she can't use Ubuntu06:50
DaBladedownload nVIDIA's .run file, install it, and manually edit xorg.conf06:50
amichairyman: its weird but winxp seems to be affecting ubuntu06:50
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DaBladethat's the only way to properly install it06:50
phenotype_amachi - its a conspiracy06:50
amichairyman: why not? teach her06:51
graabeinDaBlade, but i've tried that and i didnt get opengl to work06:51
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holycowDaBlade, ehe, i disagree but i can't argue with peoples choices06:51
graabeinDaBlade, some other guys i've talked with said ubuntu's nvidia drivers were okay06:51
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rymanamichai | she uses MSN and the webcam on MSN06:51
synddoes Ubuntu have any sort of Apple Rendezvous support?06:51
rymanGAIM doesn't have that06:51
amichairyman: get kde and make it look like windows, or even get the XPDE desktop she wont know the difference....maybe.06:51
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amichairyman: ok someone give him the link for the new gaim with webcam support06:52
holycowgraabein, they work perfect, i've yet to have an issue06:52
amichaiwho had it?06:52
holycowgraabein, i even have some dual headds running06:52
gwildorwww.google.com has it06:52
rymanamichai | webcam support for MSN ?06:52
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obyhy06:52
graabeinholycow, well i cant get it to work... had to put back nv in xorg.conf06:52
obyhy06:52
obyi am paolo from italy06:52
gwildorhi06:52
amichairyman: gaim, u know gaim? it works with msn. the new one has webcam support.06:52
holycowgraabein, ubuntus nvidia drivers are simply nvidias binary drivers, packaged with dpkg, so it doesn't bypass the packaging system, you gain nothing by using the .run from nvidia technically06:52
obyi take the distro06:53
holycowgraabein, what issue are you running into?06:53
rymanamichai | I didnt' know that06:53
amichaigwildor: :)06:53
ThomasWinwoodOkay. I got the Actiontec drivers working under ndiswrapper, but I'm getting no wireless connections showing up. What have I forgotten.06:53
obyi take the distro for powerpc06:53
Ironfrostryman: the link is http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/06:53
rymanamichai : if it works , I'm going to dump XP06:53
obyi take the distro for powerpc06:53
graabeinholycow, well, x wont start. ive copied xorg.0.var (or something)06:53
DaBladegraabein I've had many bad experiences with using packages (as in rpms/debs) when it comes to nVIDIA drivers06:53
Ironfrostbut the only webcam support is for Yahoo, and it's receive-only06:53
amichairyman: http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/06:53
DaBladesorry, ironfrost... lol06:53
holycowwhat do you mean wont start? what error message do you have in your /var/log/xorg file?06:53
gwildorthere it is :)06:53
DaBladeyou can get her to use Yahoo then :P06:54
amichaiIronfrost: yeah its still kind of primitive.06:54
holycowgraabein, it will tell you there what the problem is06:54
graabeinholycow, lots... i dont know... ill post it on pastebin.com?06:54
Ironfrosthaving said that, though, they say that they will add MSN support when another project releases libraries, and that project has at least something out06:54
amichaiIronfrost: but switching back to windows for that?06:54
holycowsure06:54
obyi take the distro for powerpc but on g3 don't boot why ?06:54
Ironfrostamichai - there was something else as well, but that was just as minor06:54
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Ironfrosta Windows liveCD would be pretty useful about now06:54
amichaiIronfrost: what else? secret?06:54
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Ironfrostamichai - I can't remember06:55
gwildoroby, did you hold "c" (i think that's it)06:55
Ironfrostsomething nonsense06:55
graabeinhttp://pastebin.com/27674006:55
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amichaiIronfrost: as long as they add a few bugs and viruses to add the real feel06:55
gwildorIronfrost, my thoughts exactly06:55
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mrk182ciao qualcuno  italiano???06:56
holycowtry #ubuntu-it06:56
amichaiIronfrost: make her an app ;)06:56
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amichaiIronfrost: that would be a nice geeky b-day present06:57
IronfrostI have enough trouble installing other people's apps06:57
IronfrostI locked myself out of my main user account yesterday by installing an mp3 player06:58
amichaiIronfrost:  i dont get why linux is primitive when it comes to webcams06:58
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amichaiIronfrost: lol06:58
amichaiIronfrost: how?06:59
Ironfrostas far as I know, I don't think there is any standard interface for webcams like there is for most other hardware06:59
Ironfrostso they all use the vendor's own one06:59
Ironfrostand are all different06:59
amichaiIronfrost: yeah but ud think developers would be working hard at it, since its so popular06:59
Ironfrostamichai - I installed amaroK, and it had to drag in half of KDE06:59
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amichaiIronfrost: whoa, thats weird07:00
Ironfrostwhich somehow changed the permissions on a critical file in /home07:00
graabeinholycow, did you find anything?07:00
Ironfrost.ICEauthority, that's the one07:00
amichaiIronfrost: how does that make sense?07:00
IronfrostI have absolutely no idea07:01
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mikerobisynaptic is telling me that ubuntu-desktop depends on python2.4-pgsql: go figure07:01
Ironfrostbut I asked on here and someone told me that the solution would be to change the permissions on that file07:01
Ironfrostand I did, and it worked07:01
amichaiIronfrost: is it just me or is amarok a cpu eater?07:01
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holycowgraabein, did you post a link to your pastebin dealy?07:01
graabeinhttp://pastebin.com/27674007:02
holycowi'm not about to search all of pastebing for it07:02
holycow:)07:02
mikerobihow do I remove a package without removing dependant packages?07:02
IronfrostI don't know; the thing still wouldn't work even after I fixed the account, so I removed it07:02
amichaiIronfrost: thats weird07:02
Ironfrostvery07:02
KaiLmikerobi: you don't want to do that :)07:02
amichaii find with kde things crash07:02
amichaididnt get that in gnome as much07:02
mikerobiKaiL: so your telling my that ubuntu-desktop really does depend on python postgresql drivers07:03
KaiL"ubuntu-desktop" is only a metapackage07:03
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KaiLif that depends on something, you don't want to have installed, remove it too07:03
holycowgraabein, are you sure thats all you have in your xorg log file?07:03
holycowit looks like there should be a lot more07:04
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holycowespecially a crash error message07:04
holycowat the end07:04
mikerobiKaiL: so removing ubuntu-desktop won't affect anything else?07:04
KaiLexactly07:04
mikerobiahh07:04
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graabeinholycow, i rebooted and x didnt start. i waited for a long time and switched console and copied the file07:04
mikerobiKaiL: so metapackages are only used for installation?07:05
Ironfrostmikerobi - it doesn't actually do anything, it's just a big list of dependencies07:05
linuxbcnholas07:05
KaiLmikerobi: yes07:05
graabeinhola07:05
holycowKaiL, you can also do apt-get -s remove package name07:05
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rymanamichai | gaim-vv doesn't support MSN07:05
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linuxbcnestoy enloceciendo con el modem en Ubuntu..07:05
holycowthat will 'simulate' what is removed so you can see which packages are affected before proceeding07:05
linuxbcnsi creo distintas ubuicaciones NO me mantiene los datos07:05
holycowgraabein, oh07:05
holycowgraabein, do ou have the console available to you now?07:06
linuxbcny al reiniciar/encender me marca la conexion antes de las X!!07:06
amichairyman: yeah not yet. i can't deny that this isnt a problem in linux :(07:06
holycowgraabein, if so, do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart07:06
holycowtell me what happens07:06
Ironfrostlinuxbcn - go to #ubuntu-es07:06
ThomasWinwoodOkay. I got the Actiontec drivers working under ndiswrapper, but I'm getting no wireless connections showing up. What have I forgotten?07:06
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graabeinholycow, no, i switched back to nv in xorg.conf07:06
amichairyman: they're working on it though, maybe u can help?07:06
rymanamichai : haha I wish I can help07:06
amichairyman:u have motivation ;)07:06
tanekanyone familiar with win4lin?07:07
amichairyman: dont laugh man. u'll surprise urself with what ur capable of.07:07
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holycowgraabein, do alt/f1, go back to console, kill gdm with /etc/init.d/gdm stop, change nv back to nvidia, do startx, note error, change xorg back to nv and come back in here07:07
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c0ntrolwhat gcc comes with ubuntu 5.04 ?07:07
holycowthere has to be some type of error message at the end about crashing or some such ...07:07
holycowoh before you go ...07:08
holycowi need yo uto check one thing07:08
graabeinokay...07:08
c0ntrolanybody using ubuntu here?07:08
KaiLc0ntrol: lol07:08
Fackamatogcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8ubuntu2)07:08
c0ntrolthanks07:08
holycowoh wait the native xorg file does not contain any unnecessary modules .. no just try that and let me know what happens07:08
c0ntrol:)07:08
Fackamatonp07:09
rymanamichai: I would be surprise if I can help07:09
linuxbcnIronfrost, sorry07:09
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ThomasWinwoodOkay. I got the Actiontec drivers working under ndiswrapper, but I'm getting no wireless connections showing up. What have I forgotten?07:09
amichairyman: thats the attitude :)07:09
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graabeinholycow, thanks man... here goes...07:10
KaiLThomasWinwood: too much networks?07:10
rymanamichai : I have alot of thing to learn like first programming language07:10
Ironfrostlinuxbcn - sorry, I was probably a bit rude there07:10
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rymanand english07:10
amichairyman: so start.07:10
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amichairyman: whats ur native language?07:10
ThomasWinwoodKaiL: Care to explain further?07:10
trans_err mplayer: relocation error: /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.0: undefined symbol: NeAACDecOpen07:10
rymanamichai : vietnamese07:10
jon_exit07:10
trans_erranyone else getting that?07:10
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KaiLmaybe you need to set the essid manually07:10
amichairyman: so start translating apps into vietnamese07:11
rymanamichai: which one should I start on ? Python ?07:11
amichairyman: u want to learn python?07:11
amichairyman: so learn python.07:11
ThomasWinwoodKaiL: command to do that?07:11
ZerboxxI'm having a ALSA sound issue, anyone able to lend me a hand?07:11
rymanamichai : people recommended that07:11
Naliothl8r folks07:11
Keitoi have two HDDs, one sized 200GB and another one sized 160GB. i'm wondering how much space i should set up for the system root of those 160GB. would 10-20GB be alright, or is that too little?07:12
KaiLThomasWinwood: I guess, you did 'ifconfig wlan0 up"?07:12
ThomasWinwoodThere's no wlan0 to up.07:12
amichairyman: man, only if it motivates u. if u enjoy learning it, that doesn mean smiling like an idiot everytime u read about it, it means u get satisfaction when u apply it, then go for it.07:12
ThomasWinwoodThat's the problem.07:12
KaiLit is after that line ;)07:13
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ThomasWinwood"No such device".07:13
KaiLeh, the 'ndiswrapper' kernel module is loaded?07:13
ThomasWinwoodYep.07:13
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larsrohdini need help installing gaim-vv... i've done tar xzvpf gaim-vv-1.2.0.tar.gz and then cd gaim-vv-1.2.0, and then when i do make it says "no makefile found"... im a bit new to isntalling things from source...07:14
fraco#ubuntu-it07:14
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KaiLhmm07:14
fracociao ragazzi07:14
fracosono nuovo di ubuntu!07:14
larsrohdini did ./configure too...07:14
fracoe avrei bisogno di qualche dritta07:14
Keitolarsrohdin, did that output errors?07:15
larsrohdin./configure no... only make07:15
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Keitohmm07:15
Keitodid you apt-get the basic compilers?07:15
fracoe avrei bisogno di qualche dritta!!c' qualcuno che mi puo' aiutare?07:15
ThomasWinwoodfraco: /join #ubuntu-it07:16
fracothanks!07:16
ThomasWinwoodnp07:16
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Keitosooo... would anyone like to give me a hint about partition-sizes?07:17
ThomasWinwoodKaiL: Any idea?07:17
larsrohdinKeito, the what?07:17
graabeinholycow, skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o07:17
KaiLI'm just reading the install howto again ;)07:17
graabeinholycow, no symbols found07:17
ThomasWinwoodAh.07:17
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fitheachKeito, don't partition besides the actual requirement of a swap partition? :)07:17
holycowgraabein, what instructions did you follow to install the drivers?07:18
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holycowgraabein, just curious if you used the ones on the ubuntu website?07:18
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holycowgraabein, can you post the updated xorg log file to pastebin now?07:18
Keitofitheach: hmmmm... well, I thought I'd have the system on a separate partition in case of system hangup and the like07:18
graabeinholycow, just apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 nvidia-glx07:18
holycowoh thats not enough07:19
larsrohdinKeito, the basic compilers, whats the packages name?07:19
xenabuild-esentials07:19
fitheachKeito, okay. I see. I basically think, partitioning is evil cause I experienced it as a restriction all the time.07:19
graabeinholycow, then i booted and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and nvidia-glx-config enable07:19
holycowgraabein, go to the ubuntu website, search for isntalling binary drivers nvidia ...07:19
holycowuninstall your packages, then reinstall with their instructions07:19
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Keitofitheach: haha, i see. a friend told me that 40-50GB for the system root is a wiser solution07:19
ishusing apt, or synaptic can I see what source a package is coming from?07:19
graabeinholycow, hmmmm... i've already tried that and somehow opengl wouldnt work07:20
KaiLThomasWinwood: is the device listed in iwconfig?07:20
ThomasWinwoodNo.07:20
Keitoi'm not sure, because another friend said 10GB should do o.o07:20
graabeinholycow, and xmms just gives me segmentation fault07:20
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holycowgraabein, okay post yoru xorg file to pastebin, i want to see if there are any new error messages07:20
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fitheachKeito, sure it is an option.07:21
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graabeinholycow, http://pastebin.com/27675907:21
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Keitofitheach, guess i'll have to decide myself then.07:22
fitheachKeito, well...07:22
KaiLThomasWinwood: you have installed the .inf? (ndiswrapper -i <file>)?07:22
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graabeinholycow, hmmm, thats the one with nv, not nvidia07:22
ttroutdo you have to do anything special in ubuntu to get tftpd-hpa to work? I setup the file in /etc/default to be enabled, but it doesn't act right when I try starting the service07:23
ZerboxxI'm trying to follow instructions on getting ALSA to work with my sndcard, but I just got a "no acceptable C Compiler found" error, what should I do?07:23
graabeinholycow, didnt "Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o : No symbols found" tell you anything?07:23
holycow(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)07:23
holycowno07:23
fitheachKeito, basically there are the one partition guys like me. then we have the 100MB /boot and the rest on a parition guys. And then we have the people using seperate partitions for /usr, /home, /var, /boot, etc. pp. Partitioning is almost as much a holy grail then the emacs vs vi discussion. sorry, you have to decide on your own.07:23
holycowbut the above statement does07:23
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holycowgraabein, sec07:23
CruXubuntu is based on debian ?07:24
graabeinholycow, yes, but that's with nv, not ubuntu's nvidia...07:24
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graabeinCruX, yep07:24
gwildorcrux yes07:24
KaiLCred: yes07:24
KaiLeh, CruX07:24
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Zerboxxany help with configuring?07:24
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GarySavedI have two hard drives.  The first 60G drive is root.  The second has a 1G swap, then the rest for /home07:25
ttroutanyone able to help with tftpd-hpa? :)07:25
ThomasWinwoodKaiL: yes.07:25
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holycowgraabein, wow that is strange ... okay what happens when you try to startx or do /etc/init.d/gdm restart with 'nvidia' variable?  it just hangs? doesn't do anything?07:26
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graabeinholycow, it hangs and flimmers for a while...then i get a console with: i cannot start the x server. likely not set up correctly... and the mentioned: Skipping /usr/X11R6... thing07:27
KaiLThomasWinwood: what says ndiswrapper -l?07:28
ishWhere can I get a list of the hoary apt repositories (more or less a default sources.list file).07:29
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ZerboxxIt appears that ALSA 1.0.8 doesn't support my soundcard, is it possible to work around it?07:30
Burgundaviaish, you already have a default list on your machine07:30
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Burgundaviaish, the only thing you need to add is the nerim.net marilliat repo07:30
ishBurgundavia: say I fudged it up...07:30
KaiLdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe07:30
KaiLfull hoary :)07:30
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holycowgraabein, i'm running short on time and ideas right now .. i'm sorry07:31
ishand security? updates? etc..07:31
KaiLdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted universe07:32
KaiLdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-updates main restricted universe07:32
holycowgraabein, i don't get the sense that anything is particularly going wrong beyond a config/setup issue i just cant locate it right now07:32
holycowi'll try to help when i come back07:32
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ishI just want to copy in a default one..07:32
ishAnd what is the difference between security and updates.. COuldn't find that in the docs07:33
graabeinholycow, okay thanks... catch you some other time maybe!07:33
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Burgundaviaish, that is being hashed out right now07:38
buckinbuckI am having trouble getting the Exchange Connector in Evolution to work since the upgrade to hoary.  Can someone please tell me the correct format of the OWA Url field?07:38
ztonzyrepositres are slow ?07:39
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ThomasWinwoodKaiL: ndiswrapper -l says the driver is present.07:40
KaiLand the device?07:40
ThomasWinwoodEh?07:40
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KaiLnormally it should tell you also that the device is present there07:41
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ThomasWinwoodNope, just "driver present".07:42
KaiLis the wlan a pcmcia card?07:42
ThomasWinwoodNo.07:42
ThomasWinwoodUSB.07:42
KaiLtry reconnecting..07:42
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ThomasWinwoodUnplugged and reconnected...07:43
SidOuthi07:43
ThomasWinwoodNada.07:43
_linux_newbcheck dmesg for any output07:43
SidOutsomeone use ububtu on ppc?07:43
ThomasWinwooddmesg reports USB device connected.07:43
_linux_newbi have never used a usb wireless device07:44
_linux_newbhave you searched google for help?07:44
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ThomasWinwoodYes. Nothing too helpful.07:45
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_linux_newbhave you looked on linux compatable?07:45
ThomasWinwoodLink?07:45
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ThomasWinwoodThe ndiswrapper page says that it should work.07:46
_linux_newbhttp://www.linuxcompatible.org/07:46
_linux_newbhmm07:46
ThomasWinwoodLinux Compatible lists only an external modem by Actiontec.07:48
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Levander I've read about some Industrial-Charcoal theme that's supposed to be on art.gnome.org, but can't find it.  Anybody know where I can get it?07:49
randabischeck gnome-look.org07:49
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_linux_newbThomasWinwood, i wish i could be of more assistance, but i will keep and eye out07:49
ThomasWinwoodk07:50
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phenotype_anyone know where i can get an xmms installer07:50
tanekrpmseek.com07:50
Levanderrandabis: just did a search for "charcoal" on that site.  Nothing.07:50
randabisfwiw, the chipset name may be more useful than the brand name for wireless cards07:50
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k31thyo07:51
phenotype_tanek, that for me?07:51
randabisphenotype_: why not just use apt/synaptic?07:51
tanekyeah07:51
Justinphenotype_: wtf is an xmms installer?07:51
phenotype_thx07:51
ThomasWinwoodrandabis: It's a Prism one.07:51
tanekhow do i start win4lin? :$07:52
randabisThomasWinwood: the ubuntu wiki has some entries that may help07:52
ThomasWinwoodAs I say it's listed on ndiswrapper's page as working.07:52
phenotype_do you prefer a xmms package justin?07:52
randabisprism 2 chipsets have native linux support iirc07:52
ThomasWinwoodAll the wiki entries I've seen assume the wireless entry has just appeared automagically.07:53
k31thIs hoary stable and released ?07:53
randabisk31th: yes, and yes07:53
k31thnice07:54
k31ththanks07:54
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ChoubakaApt-get update gives me this: "W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4F368D5D" However, debian-keyring is installed, and I have apt-key add:ed debian-role-keys.gpg; Seems like the key I need isn't in there, and I don't know where else it could be. Suggestions?07:54
shad0w1edoes anyone here know if it is possible to "clean install" kde, while maintaining the rest of my linux configuration?07:54
Choubakashad0w1e: why do you wish that?07:54
kkathmanshad0w1e: yes, install hoary first, then apt-get kubuntu-desktop07:54
randabisheh07:55
k31thgonna build my sister a pc tonight, gonna put hoary on it...07:55
dazzed /quit07:55
tanekis there an unstable release going on? :D07:55
randabisis she comfortahle with linux k31th?07:55
randabistanek: not currently. There's testing (breezy) though07:56
shad0w1emy KDE is totally mashed. konqueror crashes like every two seconds07:56
k31thrandabis: she will be :)07:56
shad0w1eI "HAD" kubuntu-desktop07:56
shad0w1enow it turned into plain KDE07:56
k31thnot hard she needs a browser and amsn or gaim07:56
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shad0w1elike when I click the K button, on the side it says KDE 3.4 -- not kubuntu-desktop, even though kubuntu-desktop is installed07:56
shad0w1eso Id like to totally get rid of kde and all its personalisations if i could, then reinstall it. is that posible?07:57
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ThomasWinwoodI'm positive it's a setting in a file I've forgotten to add.07:57
obyciao07:57
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randabisshad0w1e: you'd need to locate all the kde packages, --purge remove them, and then reinstall them07:58
shad0w1eso is there any way to delete kde in such a way that all of its personalisations and settings and memory of it ever being there.... will be GONE?07:58
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HiddenWolfI've got ubuntu as my default OS on /dev/sda, and just hung in a hdd with winxp on /dev/hda, how do edit grub so I can boot to it?07:59
shad0w1erandabis: any easy way of doing that?07:59
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randabisshad0w1e: deborphan and/or debfoster could help07:59
_linux_newbHiddenWolf, what?07:59
Choubakarandabis: why should he reinstall them?08:00
shad0w1erandabis: thanks08:00
Choubakathe packages aren't broken.08:00
Choubaka:|08:00
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chimaerahi, i have problems some buttons and the scrollwheel of  my logitech bluetooth MX 900 working. i tried to edit xorg.conf accorfingly, but to no avail.08:00
ThomasWinwoodOkay, for shits and giggles I'm going to see if rebooting helps.08:00
randabisChoubaka: because that's what he said he wanted to do08:00
_linux_newbhello mainer08:00
davehelp!! I can't get my standalone network printer setup in ubuntu. What should I do?08:00
HiddenWolflinux_newb, I've just added a secondary disk, installed windows on it, and I'd like to know how to set up grub so it'll detect windows, and allow me to boot into it08:01
mainerhey,newb08:01
daveI can't seem to figure out what url is needed in the printer admin08:01
chimaeraHiddenWolf: man grub and man grub.conf, IIRC, there's an example.08:01
randabisHiddenWolf: ubuntuguide.org may be of some assistance08:02
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daveI'm entering the ip address of the printer as well as the queue name in the form of ipp://192.168.0.25/print. What am I doing wrong08:04
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da_didii have a short question: I just installed ubunto and i am used to use debian unstable :) Are there many/all packages diffrent from the normal debian paket servers?08:04
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takatojoder08:05
takatotampoco me funciona el doom308:05
takatovamos, no se ni coo tenia esperanzas de que me funcionase...08:05
k31thubuntu08:05
takatojoder, no me funciona nada de nada08:05
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takatovaya mierda08:05
HiddenWolfrandabis, I've added the example from the menu.lst to my list, but it won't boot into it. I was assuming that since /dev/sda is hd0,0, /dev/hda/ would be hd0.008:06
HiddenWolf1,0, sorruy08:06
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HiddenWolf-u08:06
buckinbuck I am having trouble getting the Exchange Connector in Evolution to work since the upgrade to hoary.  Can someone please tell me the correct format of the OWA Url field?  OWA works in my browser, and I can use IMAP, but I was using the connector prior to upgrade flawlessly.08:06
randabishda1 should = 0,008:07
randabishd0,008:07
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HiddenWolfrandabis, that's what the line that just booted me into ubuntu says too. :)08:07
HiddenWolftitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-k708:07
HiddenWolfroot(hd0,0)08:07
randabishmm08:07
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bluefoxicyhttp://live.gnome.org/MemoryReduction_2fJohnEduardoEmail  :)08:08
randabiswell the fact that you are using sata probably changes things08:08
randabisI haven't had a setup with both before so I'm not sure08:08
HiddenWolfI'll keep messing.08:08
HiddenWolfI'll try hd0,008:08
HiddenWolfthanks08:09
randabisdon't forget chainloader, savedefault, etc08:09
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Zym0tiChe people, is there somebody who can help me with tv-out?08:09
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WeirdAlHello!08:11
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Zym0tiCi can see my desktop on my tv, but when i play a dvd i only see a black box in totem, i know that in windows you have to change you're primaire device but can't get that fixed in ubuntu08:11
randabishi08:11
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randabisZym0tiC: do you have libdvdcss2?08:11
WeirdAlOK so I've installed php4 and php4-mysql and requisites but it's not recognising mysql_connect() and other functions. The obvious solution is that I need to restart the PHP server but I don't know how. So my question is how?08:12
WeirdAl:-)08:12
randabispossibly a script in /etc/init.d08:12
k31ththe question is always how..08:12
randabismaybe something like /etc/init.d/php restart08:12
WeirdAlquestion is usually why!08:12
Zym0tiCrandabis, jup i have installed that, i can see the movie on my monitor but not on my tv08:12
randabisah08:13
zxcwhy does firefox keep fuggin exiting for no reason >_<08:13
claintwas it "update-rc.d -f alsa remove" to remove alsa from init.d scripts?08:13
Seveaszxc, run it from a terminal and see what the error is08:13
zxcseveas, how do I do that?08:13
Zym0tiCin windows i have to switch my primaire device to tv, i have a ati 9200 se vga card08:13
Seveasclaint, yes, but it will be restored when alsa is upgraded08:13
randabiszxe type firefox in a terminal08:14
Seveaszxc, open a terminal and type in 'firefox' (without the '')08:14
randabismaybe mozills-firefox08:14
claintSeveas: hmm. ok.08:14
WeirdAlThere's nothing PHP-related in init.d08:14
WeirdAlThere's apache2 and mysql but no php08:14
Seveasthere shouldn't be08:14
Seveasphp is an apache module on ubuntu08:14
WeirdAlah08:14
Seveasno separate service (it cannot be that even)08:14
WeirdAlSo I restart apache08:14
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WeirdAlSuccess!08:15
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WeirdAlSeveas wins the internet.08:15
Seveaslol08:15
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Seveas:)08:15
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WeirdAl:-)08:15
Dmost_rglAralguien habla espaol08:16
SeveasDmost_rglAr, #ubuntu-es por favor08:16
Dmost_rglAralguien habla espaol08:16
takatoyo08:16
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WeirdAllow fat is a flavour?08:17
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zxcError in Firefox:08:17
phenotype_flavor08:17
zxcperminder@ubuntu:~$ firefox08:17
zxcLoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library /opt/realplayer/mozilla/nphelix.so [/opt/realplayer/mozilla/nphelix.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory] 08:17
zxcNP_Initialize08:17
zxcNew08:17
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zxcSetWindow08:17
zxcSegmentation fault08:17
Dmost_rglArtakato de donde sos?08:17
WeirdAlDmost_rglAr, va en #ubuntu-es por espanol.08:18
phenotype_zxc are you trying to run realplayer08:18
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Dmost_rglArok thanks08:18
Seveaszxc, so it's a realplayer issue08:18
kaoDzxc maybe reinstalling realplayer08:19
phenotype_do you have realplayer codecs installed?08:19
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kaoDdid you move the plugin to the firefox's plugins directory ?08:19
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kaoDit must stay at realplayer's dir08:19
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larsrohdinok, now i've installed gaim-vv... my first source installation, tell me im the best!... but a get the error "Missing protocol plugin" when i try to login, i know it has to do with msn but how do i get that plugin?08:21
Seveaslarsrohdin, did you ./configure it in?08:21
phenotype_you're the best08:21
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Seveasi believe you need to specify which protocols to compile when configuring08:21
larsrohdinSeveas, yeah08:21
Seveashmm, then i don't know, sorry :)08:21
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larsrohdini can't select my protocol, like in the old gaim...08:22
zxcSeveas, I don't think it's a realplayer issue, as that's when it first opens up and it's always been like that. I think it's the segmentation thing as firefox shows no error just closes by itself08:22
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zxcthe realplayer error is just on open08:22
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shad0w1eanyone experienced with setting up dual display? I have the dual display working, but when I maximize a window, it maximizes across both, --- not what I want08:22
Seveaszxc lol :)08:22
Seveasthat the pugin is missing causes the segfault i think08:22
zxcseveas, ah k, any ideas how I can install realplayer sucessfully x_x08:23
Seveaszxc, no idea at all, i don't use it (or have ever)08:23
zxcSeveas, damn BBC, why couldn't they use something better other then real >_<08:23
zxcI'll try and find how to reinstall08:23
Seveasgood luck!08:24
zxcI'll need it :P08:24
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TheAlchemistre08:25
Seveasmi fa sol la si08:25
TheAlchemistgh08:25
Seveasijklm08:25
TheAlchemistun musicista08:25
Seveasnot really :)08:25
TheAlchemistah, ok08:25
TheAlchemist:)08:26
SeveasI just like the sound of music :)08:26
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d0n_muDdaHhi08:26
Seveasguten tag08:26
TheAlchemistsee you08:26
TheAlchemist:*08:26
d0n_muDdaHyea deutsche08:26
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Seveasnah, man spricht englisch hier :)08:26
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d0n_muDdaHdamn :P08:26
d0n_muDdaHwho cares ;)08:26
Seveas:)08:26
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amichaianyone here switched to ubuntu from kubuntu?08:28
d0n_muDdaHkannst du mir sagen warum  "sudo apt-get install language-support-de" net funzt?08:29
marioInclude ubuntu any app to setup grub?08:29
Seveasmario, you can easily set it up with a simple editor08:29
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Seveasd0n_muDdaH, no idea08:29
Seveasmaybe if you say what the error is :)08:29
amichaid0n_muDdaH: sudo apt-cache search language-support08:30
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amichaiSeveas: eine buchstabbe kann flasch sein08:30
d0n_muDdaHthomas@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install language-support-de08:30
d0n_muDdaHPaketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig08:30
d0n_muDdaHAbhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig08:30
d0n_muDdaHPaket language-support-de ist nicht verfgbar, wird aber von einem anderen08:30
d0n_muDdaHPaket referenziert. Das kann heien, dass das Paket fehlt, dass es veraltet08:30
d0n_muDdaHist oder nur aus einer anderen Quelle verfgbar ist.08:30
d0n_muDdaHE: Paket language-support-de hat keinen Installationskandidaten08:30
Seveasamichai, i am not native german, sorry :)08:30
amichaiSeveas: sorry that was not for u08:30
amichaiSeveas: lol08:30
A-L-P-H-Aanyone in here fimiliar with setting up xmodmap?08:30
marioSeveas, yes, I know, but a end user an text editor can produce a shock! :>08:31
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Seveasd0n_muDdaH, are you on hoary?08:31
amichaid0n_muDdaH: has du die xtra repositaries?08:31
shad0w1eanyone know how to switch my default window manager to enlightenment?08:31
d0n_muDdaHwas fr dinger?08:31
Seveasamichai, nicht benotigt08:31
Seveasamicha, l-s-de ist in main08:31
randabisshad0w1e: you'd have to edit the preferences of your display manager08:32
amichaiSeveas: ok i'll leave it up to, i thought he was chatting german and no one was getting him08:32
d0n_muDdaHoh man08:32
shad0w1erandabis: how?08:32
shad0w1eI'm using KDM08:32
d0n_muDdaHsudo apt-cache search language-support <- macht er auch findet aber keine updates08:33
randabiskde control center I believe08:33
d0n_muDdaHverdammt08:33
Seveasd0n_muDdaH, try apt-get update08:33
d0n_muDdaHvergesst den letzten post thx08:33
amichaid0n_muDdaH: ubuntu ist nicht auf deutsch jetzt?08:33
d0n_muDdaHteilw.08:33
d0n_muDdaHfirefox zb nicht08:33
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randabishmm, maybe not08:33
d0n_muDdaHund andere kleinere sachen08:33
Seveasamichai, l-s-de isn;t needed for that08:33
amichaid0n_muDdaH: firefox musst du auf deutsch installieren08:34
Seveasindeed, for firefox it is08:34
amichaiSeveas: is he having a german issue or a firefox german issue?08:34
shad0w1eim in there... do you maybe remember anything more specific?08:34
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Seveasamichai, he wants to install language-support-de...08:34
Seveasd0n_muDdaH, have you tried apt-get update?08:35
amichaiSeveas: ah ok08:35
d0n_muDdaHjep08:35
travisnuxwhat is the comman to restart server-x ??08:35
d0n_muDdaHnottn updated08:35
travisnuxplease08:35
shad0w1etransinux: just press control+alt+<-08:35
dr_willistravisnux,  you mean 'startx' ?08:35
Seveastrans_err, ctrl-alt-backspace :)08:35
d0n_muDdaHseveas08:35
Seveastravisnux, i meant*08:35
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d0n_muDdaHcheck ma http://www.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/installation:sprache08:35
d0n_muDdaHso hab ich das versucht08:35
d0n_muDdaHaber der machz net08:35
d0n_muDdaHder spack08:36
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Seveasd0n_muDdaH, in a terminl type cat /etc/issue and paste the results here08:36
amichaican anyone tell me how they got limewire to work now without having to add the script that tells it where to find the java?08:37
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d0n_muDdaHhlst mich shco fr bld oder :D08:37
d0n_muDdaHthomas@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/issue08:37
d0n_muDdaHUbuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l08:37
d0n_muDdaHseitdem ich das ding hab nur probs08:37
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d0n_muDdaHNUR PROBS08:37
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zicobithello08:38
Seveasd0n_muDdaH, strange, works fine here08:38
zicobitanyone's can install swscanner in ubuntu?08:38
Seveasd0n_muDdaH, have you altered your sources.list?08:38
d0n_muDdaHaltered?08:38
Seveasedited08:38
Seveasadded universe or backports or something08:38
d0n_muDdaHnet das ich wsste08:38
Seveashmm08:39
d0n_muDdaHposte mal den beehl den du verwendest08:39
d0n_muDdaHhargenau08:39
d0n_muDdaH*befehl08:39
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Seveasapt-get update08:41
Seveassudo apt-get update08:41
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UnreA|LX... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins                                                                           tallation and add the correct paths!08:41
UnreA|LWhere is X path ?08:42
SeveasUnreA|L, you need some packages :)08:42
chillywillyyou need X -dev package08:42
Seveaswhat are you trying to install?08:42
UnreA|LKbear im trying install08:42
UnreA|L;)08:42
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UnreA|Lhow i can get X -dev package08:42
Seveasisn't it available as deb?08:42
Seveasxlibs-dev08:42
t3rroranyone here use tightVNC?08:43
Seveasand probably you need more devlibs :)08:43
UnreA|Lwith apt ?08:43
randabislol george bush is funny08:43
SeveasUnreA|L, yes08:43
randabisOMG USE HIGH EFFICIENCY LIGHT BULBZ LOLZ08:43
Seveassudo apt-get install xlibs-dev08:43
UnreA|Lapt-get instal ....08:43
thundrcleezefunny in a scary way?08:43
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UnreA|Li dont know who write ?08:43
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randabislolz use hybrid cars u save moneyz lol!!!11oneoneone08:44
UnreA|Lapt-get install X-dev08:44
UnreA|L?08:44
UnreA|L;/08:44
Seveassudo apt-get install xlibs-dev08:44
Seveasin a terminal :)08:44
randabishe's probably never even heard of propane powered engines08:44
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d0n_muDdaHseveas ich wil ja net updaten sondern das deutsche language support installen08:44
UnreA|Lthanks08:44
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Seveasd0n_muDdaH, apt-get update updated nur die listen von softwarepakete die du downloaden kannst08:45
dr_willisive seen propane and CNG powered engines. on tractors.08:45
thundrcleezeI'm all for alternative energy, as long as it's responsible - not the nucular power crap he's pushing now.08:45
Seveas(and sorry for my bad german)08:45
dr_willisheck i saw an old tractor powered by Paraffin. (candle wax)08:45
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BeanoHi08:46
UnreA|Lwhats best ftp client for ubuntu you use ?08:46
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SeveasUnreA|L, built in ftp support for nautilus or else gftp08:46
Seveasi like the former though :)08:46
dr_willis'mc' can do ftp also.08:47
BeanoI just use the command line :)08:47
UnreA|Lif i want to download mc with apt-get08:47
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Seveasnautiluscan also do ssh, webdav and smb08:47
Seveasmc is nice :)08:47
UnreA|Lwhat i must edit in source.list ?08:47
SeveasUnreA|L, nothing08:47
Beanoshould be in the basic repositories i think08:47
Beanoi dunno :)08:48
Seveasjust type "sudo apt-get install mc" in a terminal08:48
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UnreA|Li cant download mc with apt-get08:48
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SeveasUnreA|L, sorry, you need to have universe enabled08:48
UnreA|Lmc package cannot be found..08:48
Beanohas anyone here got streamtuner/stremripper installed on hoary08:48
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Linforcerhey how do is et which port the remote desktop uses?08:48
shad0w1ehi, does anyone here know how I would be able to switch my default window manager to enlightenment?08:48
SeveasUnreA|L, see the ubuntuguide.org on how to add repositories08:48
BeanoUnreA|L, enable your universe repositiory and try it08:48
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Beanoor osmething08:48
randabisI have Kstreamripper working08:48
SeveasLinforcer, windows remote desktop?08:48
Linforcer>.>08:48
Seveasthat's 338908:49
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UnreA|Lin source.list i must remove # symbol ? true ?08:49
Beanorandabis, basically ... i just apt-get'd streamtuner/ripper08:49
LinforcerSeveas, no, I in #ubuntu08:49
LinforcerSeveas so I mean the ubuntu one08:49
d0n_muDdaHSeveas ur german good, but i think that soenst help me in here, ill try my luck with another way :(08:49
BeanoUnreA|L, yeah that uncomments the line ... find the universe repository and take away the # from the two lines08:49
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Seveasd0n_muDdaH, i think your package lists aren't up to date08:49
Seveasso you cannot find it08:49
UnreA|LOkey ;)08:50
Seveasthat's why i suggest updating the lists08:50
Beano:-) im a bit of a linux noob ... but im learning anyway08:50
SeveasLinforcer, there are several ways to do that, what kind of remote desktop do you use?08:50
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LinforcerSeveas the one that I get to by default in > System > Preferences > remote desktop08:50
BeanoI looked on the ubuntu wiki about getting streamripper working ... but theres no entry for it in the applications once its installed08:50
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SeveasLinforcer, yes, and what do you connect to?08:51
Beanoso i cant edit the options08:51
LinforcerSeveas the one that comes with ubuntu by default08:51
SeveasLinforcer, the port depends on the server, clients use random ports :)08:51
LinforcerSeveas: Erm... I mean the server.08:51
LinforcerSeveas: I'm serving08:51
Seveasah ok that's vnc08:51
Seveasone sec08:51
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Beanorandabis: so do you have any idea how i can get streamripper/tuner working from the command line?08:53
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hefner_I just installed Ubuntu. The meta modifier key does not appear to work in xterm. How do I fix it?   :)08:54
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randabisBean typically it's just "streamripper http://url08:54
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nakataagreed08:54
randabisI'm sure there's a man page for it08:54
randabistry man streamripper08:54
UnreA|LWARNING: libjpeg not found. disable JPEG support.08:55
UnreA|Lchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!08:55
UnreA|LFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.08:55
thundrcleezeIs it possible to listen to a stream in terminal (in tty2 or something)?08:55
Beanorandabis, yeah but i need to set up where it rips to etc08:55
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drcodeHI all08:55
UnreA|Lhelp me ;)08:55
SeveasLinforcer, 590008:56
SeveasLinforcer, you can find out with netstat -l08:56
drcodeI Use xfcde and my resulstion change 640x480 why?08:56
LinforcerSeveas, it uses 5900 by default?08:56
Beanono - you just start a relay server using the terminal - and connect to it through winamp or whatever using the IP and port of the machine08:56
SeveasLinforcer, yes08:56
nakataeuh... is it sane to change a debian apt source line to a ubuntu repository, and do update/dist-upgrade08:56
LinforcerSeveas, and it like ftp uses 21, it cant be changed?08:56
SeveasLinforcer, and i don't know whether you can configure it at all08:56
nakataor will i munge my dependencies?08:56
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thundrcleezeBeano, was that response to me?08:56
Linforcermeh Seveas, I l ask my dad then08:56
tritiumUnreA|L, apt-cache search libjpeg, and look for the "-dev" package.  You'll need to install it.08:56
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nakataabec 308:57
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UnreA|Li -dev will install ;)08:57
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UnreA|Llibjpeg-progs - Programs for manipulating JPEG files08:57
UnreA|Llibjpeg62 - The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runtime library08:57
UnreA|Llibjpeg62-dev - Development files for the IJG JPEG library08:57
randabisthundrcleeze: I'm sure there's probably a command line app for listening to streams in a commandline. Probably something similar to mpg321...I'd check universe08:58
UnreA|Lhow i can download this libs ?08:58
ZerboxxIs anyone able to give me a hand with Grip & Lame?08:58
SeveasUnreA|L, with apt-get :)08:58
tritiumUnreA|L, sudo apt-get install libjpeg62-dev08:58
Beanoapt-get update?08:58
thundrcleezerandabis, don't know of anything offhand?08:58
Beanolol08:58
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Beanowhen you apt-get a package where exactly does it install it?08:59
randabisthundrcleeze: unfortunately no. I don't do much listening to internet streams anymore. I have a lot of music already08:59
SeveasBeano, in the place specified in the package08:59
randabisBeano: depends on the package08:59
thundrcleezerandabis, okay, thanks08:59
Beanothat makes sense :P i shall check08:59
randabisthe command for it will usually be in /usr/bin08:59
Seveasusually binaries in /usr/bin, linraries in /usr/lib and configuration in /etc08:59
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UnreA|LQt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!09:00
UnreA|LFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.09:00
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tritiumBeano, dpkg -L <packagename> shows you the file locations for the files in that package09:00
SeveasBeano, dpkg -l packagename will tell you exatly what it installed and where09:00
UnreA|Lsome liitle error ;/09:00
nakataUnfrgiven: #kubuntu09:00
ZerboxxI have installed grip and lame, but for some reason grip says the encoder executable is wrong09:00
nakataUnreA|L: *09:00
randabissome packages put stuff in /usr/local/bin or /usr/games or /usr/local/games though09:00
nakatasee topic there.09:00
tritiumSeveas, capital "L"09:00
randabisjust depends on the package09:00
drcodewhy I Cant get 640x480 in xfcde?09:00
drcodeit worked in the morning ?] 09:00
SeveasUnreA|L, sudo apt-get install libqt3-dev libqt3-headers09:00
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Seveastritium, yeah typo...09:01
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Beanoah i dunno :( it doesnt say in the package information09:01
Seveasrandabis, no, packages NEVER install in /usr/local09:01
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Seveasthat's why /usr/local is the place to install your own stuff :)09:01
Brooklyn_Hi09:01
Brooklyn_newbie question09:01
Beanomight just download a tar.gz of streamripper and install it09:02
Brooklyn_is it nesessary to compile every single program in ububtu like in gentoo09:02
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Beanoits probably gonna be easier if im honest09:02
SeveasBrooklyn_, fortunately not :)09:02
Brooklyn_I want to install maya09:02
SeveasBrooklyn_, you only have to compile stuff that isn't in the repositories (and there's a LOT in the repositories, so compiling won't be so usual)09:02
Brooklyn_after you alien the packages, what is the process and how long does it take09:02
Cinehas anybody else had trouble with the quicktime plugin' for mozilla?09:03
SeveasBroncho, dpkg -i filename.deb09:03
Nico_1981Has anyone successfully installed Sunbird on Hoary ? I get "./run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  9165 Segmentation fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"}"09:03
ZerboxxAnyone able to help with Grip and Lame?09:03
Seveastakes in the order of seconds to minutes, depending on the size of the package09:03
randabisSeveas: I may be mistaken, but I thought I had a package that did that before...I don't think it was ubuntu though09:03
Seveasrandabis, than it is broken09:03
randabisI agree09:03
Seveaspackages are not allowed to install in /usr/local09:03
Seveasso official ubuntu packages will not do that09:03
randabisYeah09:04
Seveasmaybe broken backport crap09:04
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randabisIt wasn't an official package...I know that much09:04
randabisI removed it after I saw where it was installing09:04
randabisI knew that packages aren't supposed to install there hehe09:05
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Brooklyn_I was going to nstall gentoo becuae I found thishttp://gentoo-portage.com/media-gfx/maya09:05
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Brooklyn_but then I found out I would still hav to compile it09:05
nakatahehe09:05
tarzeaucan ubuntu have software packaged for them that debian doesn't have?09:06
SeveasBrooklyn_, the alien'ed rpm of maya will work on Ubuntu09:06
Cineeventhough I've installed mozilla-plugin-vlc which according to the description will play MOV files... all I get when I go to the quicktime trailers page is a black box that says (no picture)09:06
Seveastarzeau, yes, and there are quite a few :)09:06
Cineany suggestions?09:06
tarzeauSeveas: are you a ubuntu developer?09:06
Seveastarzeau, no09:06
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SeveasCine, do you get sound?09:06
tarzeauSeveas: can anyone get software into ubuntu?09:07
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Cinenope09:07
randabisgentoo is for ricers anyway :p09:07
Cinedon't get anything09:07
Seveastarzeau, anyone can suggest packages to be added to the universe09:07
Brooklyn_Seveas: is there any particular reason why you would recommend ubuntu over straight debain09:07
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tarzeauSeveas: i don't want to suggest packages. i want to make them myself!09:07
SeveasCine, maybe you need to set the sound output device in some configuration09:07
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Cinealthough it doesn't say I need the plugin anymore..09:07
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tarzeauSeveas: don't invent questions, is mine not precisely formulated?09:07
randabistarzeau: go for it! making debs isn't that hard09:08
SeveasBrooklyn_, 6 month release cycle, 18 months security support, it Just Works, great community etc...09:08
tarzeaurandabis: yes ok i have one. and then?09:08
Cinewell the sound works fine on the rest of my system...09:08
randabistarzeau: you'd be better off talking to someone in #ubuntu-devel about getting it put into universe09:08
Seveastarzeau, not anyone can get software into the repositories, but you can suggest for software to be added09:08
Seveasbetter answer?09:08
tarzeauSeveas: yes thanks, i will try09:09
Seveasrandabis, no, that's for #ubuntu-motu09:09
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randabisSeveas: yeah, sorry09:09
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randabisI typed the wrong channel out :p09:09
Seveas:)09:09
Zerboxxhow do I go about something I got through apt-get?09:09
Brooklyn_uhg, i read so much of the gentoo handbook, now I got to start again ith ubuntus09:09
Zerboxx*removing something09:09
Brooklyn_I dont even know if they have one09:09
SeveasZerboxx, describe "go about'09:09
Seveasah ok :)09:09
Seveasapt-get remove packagename09:09
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Seveasand if you never want to see it again:09:10
Seveasapt-get remove --purge packagename09:10
randabisBrooklyn_: heh installing ubuntu is cakewalk compared to gentoo09:10
Zerboxxok thanks, this lame thing is bugging me, going to try to re-get it09:10
SeveasBrooklyn_, ubuntu is much easier to install09:10
ZerboxxSeveas: What do you mean never see it again?09:10
SeveasBrooklyn_, pop in the cd answer a few simple questions (name, login, password like ) and wait a little while09:11
randabisthe --purge option removes the configuration files associated with the package09:11
d0n_muDdaHSevas seems to be the importened man here :D09:11
Seveasand done :)09:11
shad0w1eanyone experienced with using xinerama? My dual display is set up but my windows maximize across both screens and my dialogs pop up halfway on each screen...09:11
SeveasZerboxx, apt-get remove will leave the configuration files on your system09:11
Brooklyn_oh, kindergaden stuff :)09:11
Seveasapt-get remove --purge will remove all configuration files too09:11
Beanook ... so ive just unzipped my streamripper tar.. using the old tar -zxvf ... how do i install it? </noob> :(09:11
SeveasBrooklyn_, yeah, suitable for real newbies :)09:11
randabisBeano: uh, why didn't you just use apt/synaptic?09:12
Brooklyn_so I dont have to decide between 3 packages like with gentoo09:12
SeveasBeano, read the file named INSTALL09:12
SeveasBrooklyn_, nope :)09:12
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shad0w1eSCREW gentoo09:12
randabisthere's a streamripper package in universe09:12
Seveasyou get a very decent default install09:12
Seveasincluding openoffice, firefox, evolution09:12
Beanorandabis, i tried that ... but it doesnt appear in the applications .. so i can configure it09:12
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Seveasand including security by default :)09:12
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SeveasBeano, not all applications (especially universe ones) will appear in the menu09:13
randabisBeano: installing it from source isn't going to make it appear in applications either09:13
Seveasindeed09:13
tommi^Hi. Bug 7158 is really a weird one. In short: numpad acts as a mouse. Before coming here, I created another account to my system to try out if the problem continues. I've also imported some files from my previous installation so I thought it could've interfed with the Gnome somehow. So, I login with freshly created account, set the same keyboard type and layout and try it out. Result: works fine. Now I go back to my first account and out of habit09:13
tommi^use numpad numbers. To my suprise, they work now. What is going on?09:13
Seveasthat for sure will not show up09:13
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Cineanyone got any other suggestions on the quicktime MOV front?09:13
randabisstreamripper is strictly a command-line application09:13
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thundrcleezeCan someone help me with a problem with x not starting?09:13
larsrohdinits not nessecery to have a anti-virus program on linux, is it?09:14
nakataTomcat_: that's 'mouse emulation'09:14
randabisthere is no true configuration for streamripper...You just enter options for it09:14
nakatatommi^: ^-*09:14
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Seveaslarsrohdin, not yet :)09:14
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larsrohdinSeveas, thats what i thought... not even if i use the internet alot and download alot? whatabout spyware?09:14
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tritiumthundrcleeze, what's happening?09:14
randabisBeano: if you want a graphical stream ripping utility, try Kstreamripper, a frontend to streamripper09:14
Seveaslarsrohdin, spyware is written for windows :)09:15
Seveasso non-effective on linux09:15
Seveasit won't even TRY to install09:15
randabislarsrohdin: there is little risk of spyware/malware/viruses in the linux world09:15
ZerboxxHow can I find where a package was installed to? (ie I want to know the full command for Lame rather than just "Lame")09:15
larsrohdinSeveas, ok09:15
tommi^nakata, yeah, sorry I didn't know the term. That's what it is but why? I didn't active it but when I do enable mouse keys, I get little bit different mouse movement. So it can't be the same thing.09:15
Jimmothycan someone tell me some fonts i can get with apt-get?09:15
SeveasZerboxx, dpkg -L packagename09:15
SeveasJimmothy, msttcorefonts from marillat09:16
randabisI'll be back09:16
tommi^nakata, well actually it might but I don't believe it is.09:16
[kabuto] how do I restart all wine process?09:16
Seveasjust search for fonts in synaptic / apt-cache for more :)09:16
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larsrohdinrandabis, ok thanks alot09:16
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|iggy|hi does anybody have an ati rage with 3d working under hoary ?09:16
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ellstritium: mike how was your trip09:16
mikerobihas anyone had troubles with mod_rewrite?09:16
Seveasmikerobi, lot's, but only due to my incompetence ;)09:17
tritiumells, Hey Steve - good to see you again.  I've been looking for you.  Haven't seen you in a while.  It was outstanding.  U2 rocked!09:17
thundrcleezetritium: The basic error is "No screens found", above that it says Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module is version 7.1.0, but this X module is version 1.0.7174.  Please be sure that your kernel module and all NVIDIA driver files have thes ame driver version.09:17
ellstritium: I am sure.09:17
ZerboxxSeveas: Thanks! I couldn't get grip to recognise lame for some reason, I pointed it to the full path instead of just "lame" and it works like a charm.  Thanks!!09:17
Seveasthundrcleeze, manually installed nvidia driver?09:17
mikerobiSeveas: did you ever sort it out?09:17
SeveasZerboxx, you're welcome :)09:17
Seveasmikerobi, sure :)09:17
Seveasby reading docs on apache.org09:17
larsrohdinhey, i have a old computer: 233mhz and 64 mb memory... i tried to install linux on it... Gentoo, slackware, ubuntu and fedora... none of them worked, there was alway some problems... but then i tried win xp, and it worked directly=)09:18
Seveasmikerobi, what09:18
Seveas...is the problem09:18
larsrohdinweird isn't it?09:18
thundrcleeze"(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initilze the NVIDIA kernel module!" Then there's an abort message and "(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usuable configuration."09:18
tritiumthundrcleeze, are you using nvidia driver from ubuntu, or downloaded off of nvidia web site?09:18
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Seveas /ignore larsrohdin09:18
Seveas;)09:18
larsrohdin=(09:18
thundrcleezetritium, I don't remember, I think I did it with the web site.09:18
CineI'm still having some trouble with my quicktime plugin if anyone has any suggestions09:18
larsrohdini'm bored=)09:19
Seveasthundrcleeze, then remove it :)09:19
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mikerobiSeveas:  anytime a url is rewritten ex: "http://localhost/zz/zdsasf" , i just get a page "You don't have permission to access /zz/zdsasf on this server.", I'm using the same rule from my fedora box09:19
larsrohdinok bye09:19
Seveasthundrcleeze, and apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`09:19
tritiumthundrcleeze, you need the nvidia kernel module provided by the linux-restricted-modules with the same version number as your kernel09:19
thundrcleezeIt was working previously after I upgraded to hoary.09:19
Seveasmikerobi, might simply be a permission error09:19
SeveasSeveas, all folders in the path to that file must be listable by the webserver (+x)09:20
Seveasand the file itself must be readable09:20
mikerobiSeveas: I understand that09:20
tritiumthundrcleeze, it's really preferrable to use the ubuntu packages09:20
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Seveasmikerobi, the apache error logs give more information about the exact error, check these09:21
drcodehi all09:21
drcodeany one know if securecleint work in linux ?09:21
tommi^nakata, what I'm wondering is how did the other user account effect on the system. Somehow it has have changed some global setting, variable or something. There must be a bug somewhere.09:21
blueyedAnyone here able to understand/debug a systrace for firefox per PM? It suddenly hangs about 30 seconds after startup with futex() calls.. I'm on amd64 breezy, and it just started (no updates today).09:21
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Seveasdrcode, secure client for what?09:21
thundrcleezeI just tried an updating apt, but it's giving me a bunch of resolving problems.09:21
drcodefor checkpoint09:21
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mikerobiSeveas: aparantly i dont have proxy enabled09:21
drcodeI Want to connect my work09:21
thundrcleezeso it looks like the network connection for the computer is down.09:22
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zxcis there any alternative to realplayer for playing bbc streams?09:23
Seveasblueyed, can you paste the strace on a pastebin (not guaranteed i can help)09:23
thundrcleezefortunately, realplayer in linux is much better than the bloated crap that it is in windows.09:23
AmaranthHey, RealPlayer 10 for Windows isn't bad.09:24
AmaranthI wish they wouldn't embed mshtml in it though.09:24
BazzirealPlayer for win isnt bad?09:24
Bazzispyware laden bollox crap09:24
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zxcnot if you download the bbc version bazzi :)09:25
thundrcleezeSeveas - Any way to do this without having a net connection, or to fix the drivers that are already in place?09:25
zxcI was asking as mine isn't working properly09:25
bodaciousbdoes anyone know where wine sets up its fake windows drive by default?09:25
AmaranthBazzi: 10 isn't.09:25
Seveasthundrcleeze, no idea, I use ati :)09:25
Bazzi10 is just as bad as the others, I want directshow =(09:25
mikerobibodaciousb:  .wine/somethign09:25
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bodaciousbmikerobi: ill do a search09:25
thundrcleezeAnyone use nvidia that can help me?09:26
AmaranthBazzi: Have you used 10 for Windows? Did you actually read what the installer said or did you just click next a bunch of times?09:26
mikerobibodaciousb: .wine in your home folder09:26
thundrcleezeand Seveas, poor you.09:26
Bazziuuuh cannot remember09:26
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bodaciousbmikerobi: ok09:26
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Seveasthundrcleeze, not really, it's the only bad thing about this laptop09:27
BazziAmaranth what did the installer say? :P09:27
Seveasthundrcleeze, and the laptop is really nice :)09:27
mikerobiSeveas: i'm trying to use rewrite to run another web server behind apache, the log says "client denied by server configuration: proxy:http://127.0.0.1:8081/"09:27
AmaranthBazzi: You uncheck some things and it doesn't install anything but RealPlayer.09:27
BazziAmaranth thats bad enough09:27
tritiumthundrcleeze, I can help once you switch to the ubuntu-provided nvidia module in l-r-m.09:27
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AmaranthBazzi: And 10 doesn't keep taking over your file associations or starting up with windows if you tell it not to.09:27
mikerobiSeveas: this worked out of the box in fedora09:28
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AmaranthBazzi: *shrug* I used Real Alternative anyway.09:28
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BazziAmaranth reala lt. destroys the other codecs for me.09:28
Bazzireal alt*09:28
Seveasmikerobi, sorry, i don't know anything about proxy-ing09:28
thundrcleezetritium, is there a way to find out which way I did it - web based or ubuntu?09:28
mikerobiSeveas: well thanks anyway09:29
bodaciousbyay im installing steam with linux09:29
tritiumthundrcleeze, what does "modinfo nvidia" tell you?09:29
tritiumdon't paste long output here, please09:29
thundrcleezetritium: lots, what do you need to know?09:30
blueyedSeveas, the strace is at file:///home/daniel/firefox.strace.txt.gz (170kB). futex(), where it hangs, starts at 21:17:02.09:30
tritiumthundrcleeze, also, do you have linux-restricted-modules installed that match your kernel version?09:30
Seveasbluefoxicy, yeah, that'll not work :)09:30
Seveasi cannot access your pc:)09:30
tritiumthundrcleeze, you can query me and paste the output if you like09:30
Seveasblueyed i mean09:30
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ThomasWinwoodCan anyone help me get my Actiontec USB wireless card working? I've installed the driver using ndiswrapper but the wireless connection is not showing in iwconfig. dmesg reports the USB device being detected.09:31
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bodaciousbdoes anyone know of a good guide to read for a total linux newbie.... like, i want to know where programs are usually installed to, and how the file structure is organized09:32
bodaciousbit seems like every folder has its onw usr and var folder09:32
Seveasbodaciousb, read the debian filesystem hierarchy standard for that09:33
bodaciousbdebain.com?09:33
Seveasyou can find it on debian.org/doc oslt09:33
bodaciousbok09:33
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Seveasbodaciousb, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/09:34
ThomasWinwoodI think I'm missing a setting somewhere which is why it's not working.09:34
bodaciousbok09:34
blueyedbodaciousb, "Aliens Bash Tutorial" at http://subsignal.org/doc/AliensBashTutorial.html !09:34
SeveasThomasWinwood, what does ndiswrapper -l say?09:34
bodaciousblotws of places to look =)09:34
ThomasWinwoodSeveas: "driver present".09:34
Seveasblueyed, that's not what he's looking for09:34
bluefoxicyI did what now?09:35
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SeveasThomasWinwood, not "hardware present"?09:35
ThomasWinwoodNope.09:35
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ThomasWinwoodBut dmesg reports seeing it when I unplug and reconnect.09:35
blueyedSeveas, bodaciousb: it's also about file structure and a guide to bash is good for a newbie IMHO.09:35
jupitersteIn Nautilus, is there an easy way to change permissions on a folder and it's contents? such as the OS X "Apply to enclosed items"09:36
Seveasmaybe you need to modprobe some usb network modules (sorr, my knowledge doesn't reach that far)09:36
bodaciousbblueeyed: yeah bash would be helpfull09:36
d0n_muDdaHno1 can tell mi to open sources.list out of the console09:36
amichaijupiterste, sudo nautilus09:36
Seveasblueyed, thanks09:36
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Seveasd0n_muDdaH, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list09:36
amichaijupiterste, then navigate to the folder, right click on it and choose ur options09:36
d0n_muDdaHthx09:36
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Cinegrr... anyone else have any problems with the quicktime plugin?09:37
Seveasjupiterste, i only know the console way: chmod -R09:37
jupitersteSeveas: so chmod -R will apply the permission enclosed items?09:37
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jupitersteall the folders and files below the in the directory09:37
CineI really wanna watch the new Serenity trailer... but my computer if foiling my plans...09:38
Seveasjupiterste, example: chmod -R a+r somefolder will make all folders and files under somefolder readable by anyone09:38
Seveas(including somefolder itself)09:38
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Seveasi think that that's what you are looking for :)09:38
jupitersteSeveas: cool, i'm new to this, do you know how i would change the folder's user, group and permissions with chmod?09:39
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jupiterstefrom what I can see, chmod changes the permissions but not users?09:39
chimaerajupiterste: chown09:39
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Seveasjupiterste, do you want to change the owner?09:39
BeanoInternet Died :(09:39
Seveasor just the owners permission?09:39
jupitersteSeveas: Both09:39
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Seveasjupiterste, i think the best move is to read the manpages for chmod and chown09:39
amichaiBeano, how?09:39
Seveasthey describe it in detail :)09:40
jupitersteSeveas: OK thanks, i didn't even know about chown :)09:40
blueyedSeveas, have you looked at the strace?09:40
Beanoso - whats the command to start ropping a stream with streamripper? :P09:40
Seveasblueyed, i can't09:40
Seveasit's on your pc09:40
Seveasand i cannot access that09:40
SeveasBeano, read the manpage for streamripper :)09:40
BeanoSeveas, there isnt one :P09:41
Seveasah :)09:41
Beanoman streamripper doesnt bring anything up09:41
ThomasWinwoodAny idea what I need to modprobe, Seveas?09:41
Beanoi guess ill just look on the wiki or something09:41
SeveasBeano, then browse through /usr/share/doc/streamripper :)09:41
d0n_muDdaHwiki very helpful09:41
SeveasThomasWinwood, no clue at all, never used USB wifi09:41
Beanothanks :)09:41
blueyedlol, Seveas, sorry: http://thequod.de/tmp/firefox.strace.txt.gz09:41
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CineI'm still having trouble with quicktime in firefox, if anyone has any suggestions...09:42
stantonWhat is the preferred method to disable ipv6 in Ubuntu?09:42
chimaeraTheMuso:09:42
chimaerasry.09:42
willCine: have u read the starter guide?09:43
Cineyup, I've installed all of that09:43
KaiLstanton: why disable it?09:43
Seveasblueyed, strace looks normal09:43
Seveascan you describe the error09:43
Beanohmm README.gz09:43
Cineall I get when I try to watch trailers off of quicktime is a black box with (no picture) inside09:43
Beanothat looks promising :P09:43
stantonKaiL: It slows down dns lookups thereby slowing down internet access in general.09:43
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Cinevery frustrating09:44
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blueyedSeveas, have you taken a look at 21:17:02 and the 30 seconds after that. It does not react then.. when I click into the address bar or search box.09:44
willCine: ahh yes, that is known to fix it, use something like mozplugger09:44
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ringmauerhowto extract *.rar files in ubuntu?09:45
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blueyedSeveas, once it's through that 30 seconds it works normally.09:45
t3rrorno one here using tightvnc?09:45
blueyedringmauer, apt-get install unrar09:45
chimaeraringmauer: install rar and rar x <file>09:45
Cinewill: I installed mozplugger... didn't make a difference09:45
guruffwhat does it mean: /lib/cpp fails sanity check ??????????09:45
ringmaueryes i have installed unrar but it still doesnt work09:45
blueyedringmauer, there's also unrar-nonfree.. just search for rar in Synaptic.09:45
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ringmauerringmauer@ubuntu:~$ unrar -x /home/ringmauer/Download/Elvis Presley - 50 Greatest Love Songs CD 1 of 2 (Full Album)(1).rar09:46
ringmauerbash: syntax error near unexpected token `('09:46
ringmauerringmauer@ubuntu:~$09:46
blueyed"unrar" does not like RAR 3.x format, ringmauer.09:46
whitewindowhi @all i have a problem with my dvb-T card i load the module with  modprobe saa713409:46
whitewindow and saa7130/34: v4l2 driver version 0.2.12 loaded09:46
chimaerai prefer rar for the other versions tend to have problems with rar archives created with current releases of rar..09:46
whitewindowin kernel log09:46
ringmauerblueyed, but-nonfree (doesnt that mean that it cost $$)09:46
willCine: you might need to configure it, with linux you cant just put it in and 'go' (unfortunatly)09:46
whitewindowbut how can i see my dvb card now ?09:46
blueyedringmauer, put the filename in double quotes, like unrar "filename with spaces"09:46
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Cineah, how do I go about configureing it then?09:46
t3rrori was hoping that someone was familiar enough with tightvnc to explain how i can remove the authorization process09:46
Beano.gz - gunzip?09:47
willCine: umm i will look that up09:47
whitewindowcan anyone help me please ?09:47
BeanoWhiteRabbit, what you need help with09:47
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Beanotoo many users :(09:47
whitewindowmhh09:47
Beanobrb09:47
ringmauerlike, $ unrar -x file:///home/ringmauer/Download/Gorillas%20-%20G%20SLIDE.rar file:///home/ringmauer/Download/Gorillas%20-%20G%20SLIDE.rar09:47
blueyedringmauer, don't know exactly about non-free status of unrar-nofree. Actually rar is Shareware.09:48
willCine:  sudo gedit /etc/mozpluggerrc09:48
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shalenickserv identify ltiasa109:49
ringmauerblueyed, do you know another program for unraring?09:49
itsmeeeis Laughing Out Loud09:49
Valentin-...09:49
Valentin-shale n109:49
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itsmeee^^09:49
shalehar har very funny09:49
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shale<-- look at the dumbass09:49
Valentin-shale don't forget your /09:49
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shalethanks09:49
TechLordcan you mount smb shares thru nautilus09:49
shale<BLUSH>09:49
Cineoh great...  a giant text file full of gibberish...09:49
Cine:)09:50
Cinelinux makes me feel dumb09:50
blueyedringmauer, Just the filename in double-quotes.. see my example below. As another one said, there's also "rar" (use it with -x). Search in Synaptic..09:50
guruffringmauer; you have problem with unrar ?09:50
Valentin-shale: not worth talking about :)09:50
ringmauerguruff, yes09:50
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yahalomwhat is the fglrx file to apt-get and is it the latest?09:50
black_Nightmareany of you know if multiply 604e's would be supported?09:50
guruffringmauer; had to unrar <- don't know what's that; try using rar -e filename; u can find rar in ubuntu rep09:50
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tritiumyahalom, apt-cache search fglrx to look for it09:51
willCine: read this: gedit /usr/share/doc/mozplugger/README.Debian09:51
ringmauerguruff. ok ill give it a try09:51
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black_Nightmareor no one have any idea?09:51
willCine: that might be your problem09:51
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mikerobiit seems the mozilla-thunderbird package uses a different profile directory than the official mozilla releases09:52
ringmauerguruff, rar cant handle rar 3.0 archives09:52
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Cineah, awesome...09:52
guruff????????????????/09:52
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willCine: tell me if it works09:52
Cineso whats the command to delete in the terminal?  sudo remove or something like that?09:53
bur[n] erguruff: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree (assuming you have universe/multiverse repos)09:53
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bur[n] erCine: rm09:53
Cineah09:53
Cinethanks09:53
blueyedCine, be careful.. :)09:53
willCine: hang on09:53
Cinelol... well I'm just wanting to delete this one file09:53
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Cineoh wait09:54
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Cineits in my home directory09:54
guruffbur[n] er;  i don't need unrar i have rar, that works; i was asking ringmauer if he has prob with unrar cos i know unrar sux09:54
guruffanyhow09:54
Cinedon't need root anyway09:54
Cinecan do it from the gui09:54
willCine: what is your user name?09:54
bur[n] eroh09:54
shaleanyone here use sphinx2 ?09:54
ulxhe thats funny..just connecting to answer a rar question09:54
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Cinelucas09:54
ulxhow can i integrate the rar package in archive manager??09:55
dataw0lf|wWow.09:55
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willokay, well do a search from Places -> Search for files.09:55
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dataw0lf|wLinux has really progressed on the end-user market when users don't know how to remove files09:55
ThomasWinwoodCan anyone help me get my Actiontec USB wireless card working? I've installed the driver using ndiswrapper but the wireless connection is not showing in iwconfig. dmesg reports the USB device being detected, and ndiswrapper reports "driver present".09:55
willCine: remeber to select your home dir09:55
Cineyeah, I found it... deleted it...09:55
Cineand still no worky...09:55
Cinesheesh...09:56
willCine: restart firefox09:56
qweqwall the linux channels are filled with clueless computer-illiterate numbskulls, these days09:56
Cineduh, did that... :)09:56
willqweqw: like me!09:56
qweqwpossibly09:56
CineI'm only Linux illiterate...09:56
shaleqweqw, its just that the computer world is so big, people can be experts in one area of it but dumb as shit in other areas.09:56
shalegive 'em a break :)09:56
willCine: im lost! ahhhhh09:56
Cinehehe09:57
Cinethanks for the help anyway will09:57
qweqwyou only need general knowledge09:57
willCine: post a message on www.ubuntuforums.org09:57
qweqwwhat happened to the days when RTFM was cried from the rooftops?09:58
yahalomwho was the guy with quicktime? where did u get the plugin?09:58
qweqwyou had to earn your way into linux el33tdom09:58
ThomasWinwoodCan anyone help me get my Actiontec USB wireless card working? I've installed the driver using ndiswrapper but the wireless connection is not showing in iwconfig. dmesg reports the USB device being detected, and ndiswrapper reports "driver present".09:58
bur[n] erpeople aren't assholes now?09:58
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willCine: also check for a firefox extension that launches external programs (cant remeber the name)09:58
qweqwthere's not enough of them, bur[n] er09:58
shaleyahalom: google ubuntu restricted formats09:58
bur[n] eroh yeah qweqw, well f you man! ;)09:59
yahalomshale, thanx09:59
] BreliC[RTFM qweqw09:59
yahalomanyone here got dansguardian working with ubuntu?09:59
shaleinstalling ubuntu and double-clicking yoru way through gnome is hardly linux l33td0m09:59
Cinethere is seperate extension for that?09:59
willRTFM is a good philosopy09:59
qweqwthat's the spirit.. but don't be so shy, fuck is not going to hurt anyone09:59
bur[n] erlol09:59
shalesex.... is..... violent09:59
qweqwonly to a virgin bunghole10:00
shaleew!10:00
] BreliC[i used to work in an apple environment only and they were pricks10:00
ThomasWinwoodCan anyone help me get my Actiontec USB wireless card working? I've installed the driver using ndiswrapper but the wireless connection is not showing in iwconfig. dmesg reports the USB device being detected, and ndiswrapper reports "driver present".10:00
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] BreliC[then i worked in a unix environment only and they were pricks10:00
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tostihello10:00
qweqwthat was kind of crude..10:00
bur[n] erThomasWinwood: we heard you the first time10:00
qweqwdamn, my manners10:00
bur[n] erif someone knows, they'll speak upo10:00
] BreliC[there are people who think they are above others everyone, even in windowsland10:00
CineRTFM, Read the Fucking Manual?10:01
ThomasWinwoodPeople don't read up to see what was said an hour ago.10:01
guruffi'm trying to compile gaim and got: lib/cpp fails sanity check - any idea what that means ?!?!?!?!10:01
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qweqwwhen linux becomes popular, all the true g33ks will switch to something more esoteric10:01
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bur[n] erThomasWinwood: people aren't gonna help people who just spam shit either ;)10:01
ThomasWinwoodAnd someone who joins after I say it will never know I said it.10:01
bur[n] erbsd!10:01
xtatomfg tru gee3sz uses bsd omgomg10:01
thundrcleezePerhaps not, ThomasWinwood, but that was 2 minutes ago, not an hour ago.10:02
] BreliC[qweqw, there will always be an underworld10:02
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ThomasWinwoodA lot can happen in two minutes.10:02
bur[n] eri don't think people will switch from linux... linux is free and open source, that's what attracts people... not the esotericness10:02
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qweqwi wonder how two open-source projects could compete at all10:02
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slappy15jello10:02
Choubakaqweqw: with a different set of features?10:03
qweqwnot much competition, considering they can take whatever code they want10:03
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tostihow to change font and keymap at startup for al text consoles?10:03
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slappy15xfontsel10:05
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yahalomhey anyone know if the 2.6.11 kernel is supported yet?10:06
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tostislappy15: i ment text consoles. tty1, tty2, etc. :)10:07
yahalomanybody?10:07
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ice_1963nop10:08
ice_1963=)10:08
shaleyahalom, i think if i did apt-get dist-upgrade and it upgraded then it would be10:08
shalebut my problem is i cut corners10:08
kikovanybody know the solution to the "Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o":  No symbols found10:08
kikovproblem?10:08
decafis this a problem?10:09
kikovdecaf: it prevents me starting Xorg...10:09
kikovit's a problem for me10:09
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CineSO CLOSE!!!  Now I just don't have any sound...10:09
decafkikov:  it seems you have another problem10:09
yahalomshale, not sure?10:10
shalewell like is said, if apt-get installs then i'd say its supported10:10
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yahalomshale, good point10:10
kikovdecaf: well.. that problem was sudden.. I was working with KDE and everything get out10:11
TechLordwhat's the eaisest way to mount smb shares thru nautilus10:11
Seveasnot mounting10:11
bur[n] eru can't10:11
Seveasbut browsing through smb://server/10:11
bur[n] erTechLord: u gotta do "mount -t smbfs blahblahblahblah"10:11
Seveasmounting can be done with smbmount, not with nautilus10:11
BeanoSeveas, so ... i read the readme .. and it tells me to type ./configure - which does nothing10:11
Seveasbur[n] er, don't do that, always use the smbmount wrapper10:11
Beanois there any specific place im suposed to type it10:12
bur[n] erSeveas: yeah?  that tells me to use mount -t smbfs10:12
bur[n] er:P10:12
SeveasBeano, in the toplevel sourcedit10:12
bur[n] erThis command is designed to be run from within /bin/mount by giving10:12
bur[n] erthe option '-t smbfs'. For example:10:12
bur[n] er  mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test10:12
Seveasbur[n] er, no smbmount calls mount10:12
BeanoSeveas, wheres that likely to be?10:12
yahalomanyone here using amd athlon XP10:12
yahalom?10:12
Seveasso if you call smbmount with no options you get the mount error10:12
ThomasWinwoodCan anyone help me get my Actiontec USB wireless card working? I've installed the driver using ndiswrapper but the wireless connection is not showing in iwconfig. dmesg reports the USB device being detected, and ndiswrapper reports "driver present".10:13
bur[n] ersay what you want Seveas, you're wrong ;)10:13
Seveasbur[n] er, not at all10:13
Seveasbur[n] er, read the manpage of smbmount please10:13
bur[n] ereh10:13
KaiLThomasWinwood: try to ask google for "USB WLAN debian" or "USB WLAN ubuntu"10:13
bur[n] erno thanks ;) mount -t smbfs works wonders10:13
SeveasBeano, the folder that contains the configure file :)10:13
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tostihelp me please... how to change (at startup) font and keymap on all tty's?10:14
Beanohmm i dunno where to look for that tbh :P10:14
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SeveasBeano, usually in the same folder as the INSTALL file10:14
shalehey i have a weird thing... a raid5 sata array doesn't mount on boot, altho its in /etc/fstab and after the machine is booted i can do mount -a and it mounts... any idea where i can look to fix that?10:14
schlurchzHi folks. Installing Hoary on a spare partition, the installer didn't detect my Debian system, so I choose not to install a bootloader. How should I configure lilo within Debian to boot into Ubuntu?10:14
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shalei didn't see anything in syslog but i'm not sure where ubuntu keeps the bootup logs.10:15
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spawnhttp://www.betanews.com/article/Bill_Proposes_Ending_Free_Weather_Data/111417837610:15
spawndoes this mean I won't be able to use Weather Report on GNOME anymore?10:15
Seveasshale, dmesg or /var/log/kern.log10:15
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schlurchzI've tried a basic setup and got a kernel panic (unable to mount root fs). Can this be udev-related?10:16
shaleSeveas, thanks thats what i needed10:16
tostican abyone help me please... how to change at startup font and keymap for all tty's?10:16
shaleso much of learning this is just knowing (and remembering) where everything is stored10:17
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Seveasshale, my guess: sata modules are loaded after mount -a is issued oslt10:17
schlurchzThe Debian system is Woody, BTW10:17
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mactinyhi everyone10:17
tommi^Hi. It would seem that the /home partition is created with a newer software that comes along with ubuntu. The bootup process stops and complains the version of e2fsck (and unsupported features). Everything thought works fine even if I just continue it with ctrl-d. Can this harm my filesystem and how do I fix / ignore the complaint?10:17
joe|codeHi mactiny10:17
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schlurchzAnything wrong with this from lilo.conf:10:18
schlurchzimage=/mnt/ubuntu/vmlinuz10:18
schlurchz    append="root=/dev/hda10"10:18
schlurchz    label=ubuntu10:18
schlurchz    root=/dev/hda1010:18
mactinywhat are the plans for the next version of ubuntu10:18
Fackamatoschlurchz: why do you have the append section10:18
HiddenWolfAnyone here a grub-expert?10:19
schlurchzobviously the "append" line was me trying to fix it :-)10:19
shalewhat do you spose this means: Apr 23 17:39:12 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended10:19
SeveasHiddenWolf, not expert, but i know a bit10:19
GnuKemistHiddenWolf not an expert by far but what seems to be the prob?10:19
Seveasmactiny, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/BreezyGoals10:20
schlurchzI guessed it could be /dev/hda10 not recognized by the 2.6 kernel using udev?10:20
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schlurchzI know nothing 'bout udev though10:20
HiddenWolfI've got a /dev/sda with linux on it, which from grubs menu.lst seems to be /dev/hd0 - Now I've added a windows disk, and it's /dev/hda, and I want to add an option to boot to windows10:20
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woodwizzleI tried to wget www.foo.com\*.jpg but wget doesn't accept wildcards. is there another way to achieve this?10:21
HiddenWolfI've tried running grub-install and update-grub, and adding it manually, but it won't boot.10:21
SeveasHiddenWolf, booting to windows is simple:10:21
Seveastitle Windows10:21
Seveasroot (hd0,0)10:21
Seveassavedefault10:21
Seveasmakeactive10:21
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Seveaschainloader +110:21
schlurchzBTW, shouldn't the installer detect an existing Linux installation?10:21
SeveasHiddenWolf, example: http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/2910:22
HiddenWolfSeveas, grub seems to see my /dev/sda as hd0,10:22
SeveasHiddenWolf, the try hd1,010:22
HiddenWolfSeveas, I get an unknown file type error10:23
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GnuKemistHiddenWolf Seveas the only thing I want to add is to make sure Windows is indeed in hd0,010:23
HiddenWolfmore confusingly, if I do grub-install --recheck /dev/sda, it lists the sda disk as hd1, and the hda as hd010:23
GnuKemistHiddenWolf you got a SCSI drive?10:24
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HiddenWolfone sata, one ide10:24
yahalomhey how do i create a new channel?10:24
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deejoe /join #newchannelname10:24
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Seveasyahalom, type /join #channelname10:24
HiddenWolfyahalom, /j <channel>10:24
yahalomand then10:24
yahalomhow do i register it?10:24
lucidblueis there a way I can install ubuntu off of the harddrive10:25
itsmeeechanserv10:25
lucidblue?10:25
Seveasyahalom, /msg chanserv help10:25
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yahalomthanx10:25
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itsmeeetype: /msg chanserv register channel password10:25
yahalomthanx10:25
ThomasWinwoodUgh. This is so annoying.10:25
SeveasHiddenWolf, have you tried poking around in the grub command line on boot10:26
shalei'm getting errors on an ext3 filesystem (sda1)...  fsck.ext3 sda110:26
shalee2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)10:26
shalefsck.ext3: No such file or directory while trying to open sda110:26
shaleThe superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext210:26
shalefilesystem.10:26
Seveasto find out what grub thinks10:26
shalewhat is that all about?10:26
ThomasWinwoodAll I'm being told is "use other hardware".10:26
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Andrilhello all10:26
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yahalomeveryone is allowed to start a channel right?10:26
Seveasyahalom, yes10:26
Andrilanyone able to install Beagle?10:26
joe|codedoes ubuntu come with an application for changing the grub splash image?10:26
Naliothyahalom, knock yourself out10:26
schlurchzNo lilo expert here? :-(10:26
ZerboxxHey, is there a way to stop CD's from playing when you insert them?10:26
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yahalomhow fun10:27
yahalomlol10:27
SeveasAndril, ubuntu packages for beagle will be available within a few weeks10:27
HiddenWolfSeveas, yes?10:27
Seveasplease be patient10:27
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GnuKemistThomasWinwood didn't get the beginning...  what are you trying to do?  Mount an USB device?10:27
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NaliothAndril, whats a beagle?10:27
AndrilSeaveas: you are awesome sir!10:27
SeveasGnuKemist, USB wifi10:27
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SeveasNalioth, it's an awesome search tool10:27
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Naliothah10:27
Cineanyone know why I wouldn't be getting sound with VLC when streaming quicktime?10:27
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lucidblueguyz, I need to know how to install this from the harddrive... any one know how or the link of how?10:28
GnuKemistSeveas ThomasWinwood do you have rights to /dev/nvram?10:28
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SeveasNalioth, http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/10:28
AndrilNalioth: check it out http://www.gnome.org/projects/beagle/#running10:28
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GnuKemistNalioth it is also a breed of dog... ;)10:28
ThomasWinwoodGnuKemist: Doesn't exist.10:28
GnuKemistThomasWinwood modprobe nvram10:29
Cineits weird... under Audio Track its set as disabled everytime it starts up... I check track 1 thinking that will fix it and its still silent...10:29
Cinevery strange10:29
lucidblueseveas, do you know how to install ubuntu off of the harddrive with disk?10:29
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ThomasWinwoodGnuKemist: And?10:29
CarlKwhat options do I need in fstab so my user account can write to a fat fs partition?10:29
GnuKemistlucidblueI remember reading you could install Debian this way using Knoppix...  Ubuntu should also work?10:30
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GnuKemistThomasWinwood check the permission again10:30
Andrilanyone have the Industrial icon theme?10:30
Naliothandril Seveas is beagle that diffecult to compile from source?10:30
yahalomhow do i apt-get install several apps at once?10:30
GnuKemistThomasWinwood if you see it, 1/2 of the battle is won10:30
BeanoSeveas, about fucking time :D thanks for all youe help :)10:30
AndrilNalioth, for me yes - I am looking foward to the package10:30
saber_yahalom, just likst them: apt-get install app1 app2 app310:30
shaleapt-get install app1 app2 app310:30
lucidbluegnukemist, i've never worked with debian, and I have no burnable cd's...10:30
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yahalomwith commas?10:31
ThomasWinwoodGnuKemist: Owned by root.10:31
yahalomor no need?10:31
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GnuKemistlucidblue ohh10:31
NaliothAndril, i usually compile my own stuff10:31
ThomasWinwoodBut I see it.10:31
GnuKemistThomasWinwood not sure if the best solution but I chmod 666 /dev/nvram...  it works for me10:31
ZerboxxHey, is there a way to stop CD's from playing when you insert them??10:31
lucidbluebrb10:31
ThomasWinwoodGnuKemist: And?10:32
AndrilNalioth, I am a new *nix user - so it'll take me a while10:32
Naliothandril Seveas after reading the install page, i think i'll wait also .. .. ..<lazy>10:32
GnuKemistThomasWinwood once again, not sure what you are trying to accomplish... but at least you have access to nvram now which I believe was part of the problem?10:32
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AndrilNalioth, yep it seems to a bit troublesome10:33
ThomasWinwoodThe problem was not seeing a wireless connection even when ndiswrapper loaded the driver.10:33
yahalomis it me or are ubuntu's servers slower now?10:33
Andrilany help on locating the Industrial Icon theme - anyone?10:33
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XandriXk10:34
redPandahi all10:34
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GnuKemistThomasWinwood I'm assuming you modprobed ndiswrapper and installed the appropriate drivers?10:34
AndrilredPanda, whasssup!10:34
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caldwellis there an apt package for UML?10:34
redPandaQuestion..10:34
GnuKemistcaldwell get Dia?10:35
caldwelldia?  wth is dia?10:35
HiddenWolfSeveas, just tried rebooting with both the hd0,0 options and the hd1,0 option. - hd0,0 gives me "unsupported bla" error, hd1,0 gives me "unknown filesystem type" error10:35
GnuKemistThomasWinwood what does iwconfig [wireless device]  give you?10:35
HiddenWolfseveas, hd0,0 is my /dev/sda, hd1,0 is my /dev/hda windows disk I want to boot into10:35
GnuKemistcaldwell UML app for Linux10:35
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caldwellGnuKemist: thanks10:36
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GnuKemistcaldwell np10:36
redPandaevery time I boot into Ubuntu I see warning:- VFS: can't find ext3 filesystem on hdb1.  Is this much of a problem?10:37
HiddenWolfredpanda, no harmless10:37
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caldwellGnuKemist: dia - a diagram drawing program10:38
GnuKemistcaldwell well, not a full blown Visio-like app  ;)10:38
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caldwellGnuKemist: I was referring to UML "User-Mode-Linux"10:38
caldwell*lol*10:38
GnuKemistcaldwell hehehe10:38
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ZerboxxAnyone know of a good audio tag editor?10:39
yahalomwhat do i type in to get the commands for chan op?10:39
NaliothZerboxx, EasyTag?10:39
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GnuKemistcaldwell doesn't Gnome come with one installed already in Ubuntu?10:39
yucekeasytag10:39
ZerboxxNalioth: I'll give it a look, thanks10:39
NaliothZerboxx, as easily as apt10:39
caldwellGnuKemist: what does user-mode-linux have to do with Gnome?10:39
guruffanyone know how to compile stuff ? i have just a Makefile.am Makefile.in couple of c files and header files ??? how to compile this thing ???10:39
Beanoanyone know how to stop streamripper ripping? :P10:39
ZerboxxNalioth: Done and done :D I love apt10:40
redPandathanks HiddenWolf.  Why does the warning appear?10:40
caldwellGnuKemist: google "user mode linux"10:40
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ucu30cpls help10:40
ucu30cDie folgenden Pakete haben nichterfllte Abhngigkeiten:10:40
ucu30c  xfce4-panel-dev: Hngt ab: libstartup-notification0-dev soll aber nicht installiert werden10:40
ucu30cE: Kaputte Pakete10:40
HiddenWolfredpanda, becaused your /dev/hdb isn't ext3, and it seemss to expect that10:40
HiddenWolfAny grub experts here?10:40
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GnuKemistcaldwell already did it before...  Gnome doesn't have anything to do with UML but I thought there was something installed by default with Ubuntu10:41
redPandaAfaik the filesystem is reiserfs.10:41
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Reececan sum1 help mer10:42
Reece*me10:42
GnuKemistucu30c try connecting to #ubuntu-de10:42
yahalomReece, what u need man?10:42
ucu30cGnuKemist, they cant solve it10:42
Reecedoes ubuntu work on low-spec machines?10:42
yahalomReece, how low?10:42
ucu30cGnuKemist, its about broken pkgs10:42
Reecewell10:43
Reece32mb ram10:43
GnuKemistucu30c but it seems to me you need someone who can speak German?10:43
Reece1.5 gig hard drive10:43
Reeceer...10:43
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Reecedunno about the processor10:43
Reeceits just an old laptop i had lying around10:43
ucu30cGnuKemist, not really i just want to install xfce4-panel-dev and i get that error message (in german ..)10:43
GnuKemistReece tried Damn Small Linux? =)10:43
joe|codeCan anyone tell me what repository has grubconf?10:44
Reecei see10:44
yahalomReece, damn small linux would work, but i think ubuntu would to, can anyone back me up on that?10:44
Reecewell10:44
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Reecei will try ubuntu10:44
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GnuKemistyahalom not sure what the system requirements are10:44
Reeceif it doesnt work10:44
AstralJavaReece: RAM is a bit low, dunno if it will install. HDD space is enough, and I've installed it into an old PII running at around 300MHz. What you need to do is choose 'expert' when it prompts for choices.10:44
GnuKemistyahalom but it MAY work...  very slugish though10:45
AstralJavaThen answer 'no' when it asks to download more programs from the internet.10:45
Reeceok10:45
yahalomGnuKemist, i saw them somwhere not sure where10:45
KaiL1,5GB HD?10:45
Reeceyes10:45
KaiLthat's quite low..10:45
GnuKemistyahalom lemme Google for it10:45
Reecei do know that10:45
Reecethats the whole point of not putting windows on there10:46
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TotallyUberah, ./configure says:  configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check how do i fix that10:46
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KaiLReece: I'd say every modern system needs more10:46
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aromanhello people...10:46
KaiLesp. more RAM and maybe more disk space10:46
aromanjust a quick question.10:46
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AstralJavaReece: Check this out: http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html10:47
aromanHow does Ubuntu handle mono packages? what versions are included, etc?10:47
yahalomReece, u need to use xfce i think10:47
GnuKemistaroman definitely not the latest ones10:47
TotallyUber?10:47
yahalomReece, gnome will be too heavy10:47
panjhy_hi10:47
yahalomReece, or fluxbox10:47
AstralJavaIf I recall correctly the base install only requires some 400MB of HDD space.10:47
GnuKemistReece DSL with Fluxbox would do the trick10:48
yahalomReece, or even IceWM but get xfce10:48
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aromanGnuKemist: hmm okay...10:48
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GnuKemistaroman I have it installed but it is version 1.0.x10:48
KaiLAstralJava: that page is (sorry) rubbish10:48
GnuKemistaroman did you have a specific question?10:48
tsumeshould state on the wiki to signup as a registered linux user ;)10:48
aromanGnuKemist: well I was wondering about mono 1.1.x series since they are recommended over the 1.0.x series10:49
tsumeI seen the counter 7 years ago, but never signed up :/10:49
HiddenWolfAnyone here proficient on the topic of grub?10:49
tsumeuntil today :)10:49
ThomasWinwoodGnuKemist: All relevant ndiswrapper drivers have been installed.10:49
tsumeHiddenWolf: grub likes messing up10:49
KaiLthey use another window manager instead of gnome to save some disk space and maybe RAM too, but install OOo...10:49
tsumeHiddenWolf: use lilo ;)10:49
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HiddenWolftsume, tell me about it10:49
aromanGnuKemist: I run Gentoo atm and I'm not sure if I should switch, considering I run a LOT of mono-related things and do a lot of mono development10:49
tsumelilo: can you boot my computer for me? :P10:49
GnuKemistaroman the "bleeding edge" version should be lots of fun to work but it hasn't been packaged AFAIK10:50
tsumearoman: you poor guy10:50
GnuKemistaroman I also run Gentoo on my AMD64 but don't have Mono since the current version doesn't have  the runtime10:50
aromantsume: and why is that may I ask?10:50
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GnuKemistThomasWinwood what about iwconfig [device] 10:51
tsumearoman: mono is not very stable yet10:51
kompulsivecan anyone help me with getting bootable CDs to finally bootup again after i've installed ubuntu onto a HD partition? it skips them and just loads ubuntu.10:51
aromantsume: are you sure? runs VERY stable here...10:51
ThomasWinwoodiwconfig shows three devices - lo, eth0 and sit0 (?!).10:51
tsumearoman: I'm sure.10:51
nakatakompulsive: in your computer BIOS set it to boot to CDROM first.10:51
GnuKemistkompulsive did you change your BIOS not to boot of the cd-rom?10:51
AstralJavaKaiL: Why so?10:51
tsumearoman: and novell stole away the mono for bsd :(10:51
KaiLrunning OOo with 32MiB RAM is totally hopeless10:51
aromantsume: okay... which version did you run last?10:51
Andrili keep having apps close by them self10:51
aroman0.8? :P10:52
tsumearoman: the current release, and it made a big fat segfault on me10:52
AstralJavaThat might be true. And as I recall, they do say on that page that you should have more than 32MB.10:52
aromantsume: really? did you compile yourself?10:52
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ZerboxxIs it possible to stop CD Player from autoplaying?10:52
GnuKemistThomasWinwood doesn't seem to be detecting your card... USB, isn't it?10:52
tsumearoman: yes, with gcc 3.410:52
AstralJavaBut I forget, it's been a while.10:52
redPandaDoes anybody know how to configur KDE so that it's dektop icons don't appear on my Gnome desktop?10:52
kompulsiveyes, my BIOS is set to boot from CD10:52
tsumearoman: I wasn't very happy10:52
KaiLAstralJava: even with 256MiB on a K6-2 it takes around 10min to start10:52
aromantsume: I'm running mono and all the mono-related things compilef from svn with gcc-3.4... rock solid :/10:52
aromancompiled*10:52
nakataredPanda: that's a Gnome issue10:53
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aromanlol10:53
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aromanwell then... I guess I must be going :P10:53
redPandais it a problem with Gnome?10:53
aromanI think I might switch to ubuntu... who knows.. maybe..10:53
GnuKemistaroman how about a HOWTO for us?  ;)10:53
tsumekmaynard: are you in TN?10:53
tsumearoman: its decent..10:53
aromanGnuKemist: well, if I get to switch to ubuntu.. sure :)10:53
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aromanwell my parents' computer runs hoary..10:53
GnuKemistaroman I have F-Spot and Blam installed in Ubuntu10:54
KaiLfor Linux the CPU doesn't matter that much (not to say doesn't matter at all)10:54
aromanbefore, it was running windows... and I got complaints all the time..10:54
aromanguess hoe many I get now :P10:54
aromanlike.. NONE10:54
aromanhehe10:54
GnuKemistaroman been there, done that10:54
aroman;)10:54
aromanwell10:54
KaiLbut the RAM ist VERY VERY important - so if you have <128MiB, forget Linux+X10:54
AstralJavaKaiL: Well, you start it once, and keep it up as long as the comp is on. Make coffee and take the dog out for a walk in the mean time. :)10:54
aromanperhaps in about 2 weeks when I finish my exams...10:54
GnuKemistaroman sounds good to me10:54
holycowdon't listen to what KaiL is telling you10:54
KaiLand forget every other moden multiuser OS (Win2k, XP) too10:54
aromanlater folks.. been nice talking to you and thanks for the info! ;)10:54
holycowthast complete crap10:54
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holycow128 megs is fine for most basic workloads10:55
kmaynardtsume: nope10:55
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holycowalso ignore his comment about other multiuser oses10:55
holycowall of those run fine on 128 as well10:55
KaiLholycow: and starts to swap at the second you open a xterm10:55
ZerboxxAny help with stopping CD Player's autoplay?10:55
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holycowinfact for windows it makes no difference how much or how little ram  you have because windows aggresively swaps REGARDLESS of how much ram you have10:56
holycowKaiL, so what, thats what a swap file if for10:56
kmaynarddoes smbmount exist in hoary?10:56
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KaiLholycow: swapping on a hd common for that time?10:56
holycowKaiL, i think you mean to say that ideally you would like to have more than 128, yes, but 128 is workable in a great majority of workloads10:56
nix000how does one install a minimal ubuntu for a server machine ?10:56
KaiLnot to mention you need every byte on the hd for other data..10:56
holycowKaiL, what about swap? windows swaps no matter what10:56
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holycoweven linux swaps when it has to10:57
holycowits a fact of life, swapping does not preclude a system not being adequately usefull10:57
thenukeKaiL: and I use linux with X on p133&64megs and it swaps about a few megs10:57
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thenukeKaiL: so if you dont know what you are talking about, you should not talk10:57
KaiLI know, that Windows swaps like hell10:57
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shalefilesystem.10:57
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KaiLthenuke: 1 week ago I've updated my system here - was a K6-2/500 with 256MiB RAM10:58
shaledoes anyone ever get a bad superblock error when running e2fsck on a ext3 partition?10:58
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KaiLthenuke: and I have tried often enough around 2000 to install Linux on Pentium 1 systems10:59
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randabisanyone know of a good hex editor?11:00
KaiLthe X server always eate to much RAM11:00
KaiLway to much...11:00
TotallyUberhow do i add to the menus in gnome? (like add a new catagory or launcher in the drawer)11:00
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holycowKaiL, shush11:00
holycow:)11:00
mrk182hello!!...help me for wireless card on ubuntu 5.04------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>11:01
TotallyUbermrk182, ok, what kind11:01
KaiLsomewhere here is a i486, 24MiB RAM - with XFree 3.3.6 and all totally lowend software - even that is close to be unusable11:01
KaiLProblem: if Linux starts to swap, it's getting VERY slow.11:02
qweqwno way that will run on 24mb of ram11:02
holycowKaiL, i don't disagree that more ram is better, all my 32 bit systems have max ram configs11:02
holycowhowever gnome and x will snuggly fit into 47 megs on boot11:02
holycowi can comfortably work in open office and firefox simultaneously on 128 megs ram11:03
holycow128 doesn't seem like a lot, but in actuality it is11:03
KaiLoh, your GNOME uses -3MB?11:03
TotallyUberis there an italian channel for ubuntu11:03
KaiLinteresting :)11:03
KaiLTotallyUber: #ubuntu-it11:03
holycowKaiL, no, you just haven't a clue about what your talking about11:03
kompulsiveis there anyone i can get help from about ubuntu bullying its way over any bootable CD i put into my drive?11:03
TotallyUberKaiL, thanks11:03
qweqwon an old machine like that, you should install tinyX or something similar11:04
KaiLholycow: oh, you want to explain, why here the system with a naked X-Server has 50MB used11:04
CarlKkompulsive - bios not booting from CD?11:04
holycowbecuse you have no idea what your doing?11:04
KaiL...and if you run KDE or xfce doesn't matter11:04
djonesqweqw, agreed, and a light weight window manager, ie not GNOME11:04
KaiLor better doesn't matter much11:05
HiddenWolfAnyone here proficient on the topic of grub?11:05
KaiL8MB difference11:05
qweqwdefinitely not GNOME11:05
qweqwman11:05
KaiLholycow: and now you want to explain, how to save many RAM..?11:05
holycowKaiL, just shutup, you clearly haven't ever done the test11:05
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holycowjust quit making stuff up and your golden11:06
qweqwit would be torture just launching a program from a menu11:06
KaiLholycow: now what?11:06
holycownow what what?11:06
holycowi've said my piece11:06
KaiLdo you want to troll or do you want to explain, how to save RAM?11:06
holycowit's important for noobs not to listen to you becaue you are giving them wrong information11:07
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KaiLI know what I have seen - and by god, I've worked with more than enough totally outdated computers...11:07
qweqwthe blind leading the blind..11:07
goldfishhey guys, are the nvidia drivers from apt-get, the latest nvidia drivers out?11:07
djoneskompulsive, ubuntu can't override a bootable CD if your BIOS is set to boot from CD first.  Ubuntu's bootloader lives on the HDD, and so the HDD would have to be read...11:07
holycowyou are free now to go on as much as you like about nonsense11:07
qweqwthe newest version is 7XXX11:07
KaiLgoldfish: yes11:07
goldfishthanks11:07
ThomasWinwoodAnyone able to help with this USB wifi card?11:08
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KaiLThomasWinwood: asked google?11:08
ThomasWinwoodNothing helpful.11:08
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tsumeheres a qhacky question, is there a runtime for C# applets in browser? ;)11:08
djonesKaiL, shut-up11:08
homerwoot i got my 446 ubuntu disks today11:08
homermy mom was angry :\11:08
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holycowtsume, thankfully no11:09
homershe thought i bought all of them rofl11:09
holycow:)11:09
thechitowncubsdoes anyone use Beagle?11:09
KaiLdjones: hm?11:09
JaGWiRE```homer11:09
JaGWiRE```you ordered 446 ubuntu cd's?11:09
tsumeholycow: well its better than the crap called java11:09
JaGWiRE```What? You giving em to every friend and preson you met? Or just everyone in your company?11:09
KaiLhomer: how big is that box?11:09
tsumeholycow: PythonNet + mono ;)11:09
holycowtsume, *cough* bullshit *cough*11:09
holycow:)11:09
holycowcome back when you have some libraries to use11:09
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busfahrerhomer: We want pictures.11:09
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tsumeholycow: you are full of it ;)11:10
homerKaiL, there's 5 boxes11:10
holycowtsume, your the one using c#11:10
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holycow-_-11:10
busfahrerhomer: How long did they take and where do you live?11:11
tostihelp me, please...11:11
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kompulsivedjones: i know my machine(s) and how the BIOS works. the BIOS is infact set to boot from CD first and does check for bootable discs. the problem is that it doesn't boot into them or give me the option to boot from them at all before starting the ubuntu load-up.11:11
tostihelp me please... how to change (at startup) font and keymap on all tty's?11:11
homerbusfahrer, Texas and it took about 4 months rofl11:11
busfahrerlol11:11
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tsumeholycow: not yet actually11:11
homeri completely forgot about them11:11
yahalomwhat is the gaim with webcam support called?11:11
kakaltodoes anyone have any ideas of why my sound stopped working, even though it was working before?11:11
holycowtsume, i'm buggin ya mostly, all cool, use .net for all i care11:11
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kakaltoI don't remember changing anything to do with sound, so why has it screwed up?11:12
tsumeholycow: well, if I could plug in python code using C#, it would be nice11:12
djoneskompulsive, what I'm suggesting is that it isn't something ubuntu can effect, as it lives on the HDD and is loaded after the BIOS checks for a bootable CD.11:12
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kompulsivekakalto: sorry, i don't have a clue what the problem is, but don't you love the kinda problems that literally come out of nowhere for no apparent reason at all?11:12
CarlKkompulsive -I have seen that11:13
kakaltokompulsive, absolutely :(11:13
holycowtsume, i never got the fixation with .net and c#, you can plug python code with jython11:13
holycowtsume, but i guess some people preffer chinese food, others korean11:13
holycow*shrug*11:13
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CarlKkompulsive - I think it is caused when the CD drive can't read the CD in time and the BIOS goes on11:13
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HiddenWolfCan anyone here help me with grub, it doesn't listen to my device.map11:13
tsumeholycow: right, because korean food is _nasty_11:13
TotallyUberwow11:13
kakaltoCarlK, depending on what kind of problem it is11:13
kakaltoCarlK, mine's to do with sound11:14
kakaltoany11:14
djonesHiddenWolf, you might have better luck with your grub question in #debian11:14
CarlKkakalto?11:14
TotallyUberthe WG111 from netgear includes a file on its CD called ndis5... guess what its for?11:14
kakaltono program can play sound, except under windows11:14
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ThomasWinwoodDamn Windows.11:14
kakaltounder linux, something thoroughly screwed up11:14
KaiLTotallyUber: it's a Windows driver? ;)11:14
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ThomasWinwoodJust bluescreened on me.11:14
HiddenWolfdjones, I'll try that, thanks11:14
TotallyUber;)11:14
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ThomasWinwoodKaiL: Google returned nothing useful.11:15
kompulsivethe netadmin-nazi at the community college i attend lovvvvvvved it when i popped an ubuntu live disc into one of the new computer lab PCs earlier today.11:15
holycowkompulsive, what happened?11:15
TotallyUberkompulsive, did he love it more when you typed cfdisk?11:15
kakaltoI found a generic guide to configuring sound on the net yesterday, but it didn't fix my sound issue11:15
CarlKkompulsive - then he is lamer than my local public library's admin ;)11:16
TotallyUberkakalto, can i have a link to that guid?11:16
kakaltoTotallyUber, sorry, I'm not sure if I could find it11:16
kakaltogive me a few moments11:16
TotallyUberkakalto, k np11:16
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kakaltoTotallyUber, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26567&highlight=linux+sound11:17
CarlKkompulsive - I spent over 4 hours tryiung to do anythig to a bunch of win98 boxes with internet access.  bios was protected, no boot from CD or floppy, couldn't run an exe, etc11:17
holycowkompulsive, did you actually manage to get online before getting caught?11:17
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kakaltoI love kde's history sorting :D11:17
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kompulsiveholycow: not much but comedy happened. i booted into ubuntu flawlessly while students with an average level of computer knowledge at surrounding computers got the nervous, "oh my god i don't think he's suppose to be there!"-look on their face.11:18
shopeonaropeis this a good place to come for help with network probelms?11:18
CarlKkompulsive - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SmartBootManagerHowto11:18
CarlKif you can get that on a floppy, then that will boot your CD11:19
CarlKalso, I think you can make it a grub option11:19
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CarlKmay need to do something with memdisk11:19
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kompulsiveholycow: did a portscan on a small section of the network then commenced to send a msg to craig(network admin at the school)'s machine that included "cottoneyed joe" playing at fullblast.11:19
holycowkompulsive, just out of curiosity, did you get online?  did you manage to mount the windows hd?11:19
blueyedI have to use pppoeconfig everytime after reboot. Here is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://paste.husk.org/3127 Ideas, please?11:19
holycowjust curious how 'lax' they are :)11:19
shopeonaropemy network device is no longer configured how can i fix it11:19
holycowkompulsive, rofl nice11:20
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kakaltoI suppose I'll just post on the forums11:20
shopeonaropei try to enable it in kde and it won't11:20
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kakaltoand hope for an answer11:20
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kompulsiveholycow: yes, but i only ventured within the network to joke with craig. we are cool as hell so he knew it wasn't a malicious attack. technically i could've been suspended from the college.11:20
kompulsivecarlk: thanks for the link.11:21
holycowheh11:21
shopeonaropecan anyone help the new guy?11:21
CarlKyour;re welcom11:21
kompulsiveit mounted the machine fine though, i was surprised.11:21
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kompulsiveshopeonarope: what's he need help with?11:21
shopeonaropemy onboard network card isn't working anymore in ubuntu11:22
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kompulsiveholycow: he's pretty laid back and didn't mind the cotton-eyed joe song. nothing like the time i hit 'em with the ole' "goatse.cs" link. i think that'll always be everyone's favorite.11:23
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shopeonaropeit stopped working after during a boot up linux did some sort of HDD fixing11:23
holy_cowshopeonarope, funny you mention that11:23
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shopeonaropewhy11:23
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holy_cowi had a reiser glitch last night11:23
kompulsivedisclaimer: if you don't know about the evil, evil "goatse.cx" prank, don't check the url.11:23
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holy_cowyour not the first person today to mention that11:23
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holy_coware you running reiser by any chance?11:24
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XandriXdoes anyone here know mako personaly ???11:24
shopeonaropei tink so11:24
XandriXor jdub ?11:24
LevanderAny good gnome panel applets to visuallynotify me of new mail?  And to display the sender &/ subject of that mail?11:24
BurgundaviaXandriX, why?11:24
ubuntu_hi all11:24
BurgundaviaLevander, mail-notifier11:24
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KaiL..."if you need reiserfsck, start searching for your backup"11:24
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XandriXBurgundavia, i talked to him yesterday (mako) and when he awnserd i wasent there and i wantes to tell him to check his mail and i also wnated to talk to him about other stuff11:25
seliniumHas anyone here used redhat in the past?11:25
yahalomwhat do most users use? ext3 or reiserfs?11:25
XandriX*wanted and i missed him ...11:25
shopeonaropei tried to enable my network card and it enables then disables11:25
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LevanderBurgundavia: there's an ubuntu package that contains mail-notifier?11:25
BurgundaviaXandriX, he is in the middle of major conference right now. Very very busy11:25
TotallyUberbah11:25
KaiLselinium: long long ago, why?11:25
yahalomselinium, fedora 311:25
BurgundaviaLevander, yes, do a search for it11:25
XandriXooooooooo11:25
TotallyUbersomeone help me with muine plz11:25
holy_cowi use reiser today was my first blip, i don't know if its an hardware or software issue yet11:25
Burgundaviaselinium, RH 811:25
TotallyUberit wont play11:25
XandriXBurgundavia, and jdub ?11:25
Burgundaviayahalom, ext311:25
holy_cowdidn't loose anything11:25
TotallyUberit just closes itsself11:26
BurgundaviaXandriX, all Ubuntu/Canonical people are11:26
yahalomBurgundavia, why?11:26
hybridhello all11:26
kompulsiveanyone here fairly experienced in the ninjuitsu art of intrusion detection? i've got a few questions.11:26
XandriXcrap11:26
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XandriXwhat conference is it11:26
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LevanderBurgundavia: well, did a packages.ubuntu.com search, nothing came back11:26
BurgundaviaXandriX, for that matter most of the major community members are too11:26
cuscohi does anyone here that uses gtkpod is able to put .ogg files into their ipods?11:26
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BurgundaviaXandriX, the Breezy planning conference11:26
XandriXwhere is it held ??11:26
Burgundaviayahalom, ext3 is default and it is stable11:26
seliniumHi all, I have a client that wishes to put a wifi system on an old redhat 7.3 system. They do not wish to upgrade (can't think why?) Do i just need to persuade them to install Ubuntu, or can I get wifi to work on it?11:26
shopeonaropehow do i fix my network card?11:26
kakaltowhat's the command to look at all the devices connected to your computer?11:27
djonesHiddenWolf, you probably shouldn't mention ubuntu in #debian, they're a little sensitive about the branching.11:27
BurgundaviaXandriX, this one is in Aussie, but the previous one was Spain11:27
yahalomBurgundavia, point take :)11:27
XandriXwill there ever be one in canada11:27
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kakaltoanyone?11:27
yahalomselinium, get them to install ubuntu :)11:27
BurgundaviaXandriX, there will never be one in the states11:27
blueprismhey anyone that could point me to a website containing a tutorial how to install apache and php and mysql on ubuntu ?11:27
XandriXcanada11:27
Burgundaviakakalto, what kind of devices?11:28
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XandriXand why not in the states ?11:28
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kakaltoblueprism, google?11:28
BurgundaviaXandriX, long history11:28
kakaltoBurgundavia, sound11:28
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XandriXand canada ???11:28
martinhallo11:28
olorinblueprism: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php411:28
BurgundaviaXandriX, don't see why not11:28
XandriXk11:28
seliniumblueprism: www.ubuntuguide.org11:28
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XandriXid like to know i am in canada lol11:28
Burgundaviakakalto, system->admin-->device manager11:28
BurgundaviaXandriX, Victoria BC11:28
kakaltoBurgundavia, thankyou, even though I don't use gnome, I get the idea11:28
XandriXIle Perroy Quebec11:29
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XandriX*Perrot11:29
BurgundaviaXandriX, there is one dev from Canada11:29
XandriXwho ?11:29
LevanderBurgundavia: says mail-notifier isn't in hoary: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3882.html11:29
seliniumBurgundavia Kail yahalom: Would replacing redhat with ubuntu cause any problems? I am fairly new to Linux. THey are using Redhat for some tills in a shop.11:29
nydust /msg NickServ IDENTIFY 123411:29
Burgundaviabradb, he works on launchpad11:29
aboodguys, i wana ask if the ubuntu had a proplem with the internet connection, because its connect for about 15 min and it gets disconnected i tried to up the ipv6 n ip n pon the dsl restarting network and wont work, unless it connects by itself after couple of mins, any idea about this ?????11:29
djoneskakalto, lsmod might do the trick.11:29
XandriXk11:29
seliniumnydust: OOOPS :)11:29
BurgundaviaLevander, I used something out of the repos in the past11:29
kakaltodjones, that's what I was looking for :)11:29
djonesnydust, woops! ;)11:29
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TotallyUberanyone here use muine?11:29
kompulsiveselinium: "figure it out yourself. that's what your 'client' is paying YOU for afterall, isn't it?"11:29
TotallyUberits segfaultin11:30
LevanderBurgundavia: it was in warty11:30
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LevanderBurgundavia: not hoary, according to that link anyway11:30
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tonyhi11:30
djonesnydust, 1234 is what I use on my breifcase11:30
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BurgundaviaLevander, mail-notification is in the repos11:30
ThomasWinwoodI got it working! :D11:30
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seliniumkompulsive: Sadly, when I say client, I mean the girlfriends fathers client! He just asked the question11:30
kompulsiveselinium: just kidding, that's a response i got back when i was a gentoo n00b once. but, on the real, definately show them ubuntu in action and i think it'll convince them on it's own.11:30
SiRrUshello11:30
hybridhi11:30
ThomasWinwoodI switched the USB card for a wireless Ethernet card.11:31
HiddenWolfdjones, can you do anything to help me?11:31
TotallyUberanyone?!11:31
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xMaximexIs there a rescue mode with the installation cd ?11:32
hybridwhen will breezy developement resume?11:32
BurgundaviaxMaximex, type rescue at the prompt11:32
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hybridlol11:32
djonesHiddenWolf, I see everyone is doing a good job of ignoring you question :)11:32
LevanderBurgundavia: okay, thanks! I'm trying to install and get running now...11:32
Burgundaviahybrid, it has already started. Mostof the devs are at the Breezy planning conf right now11:32
xMaximexBurgundavia, that doesn't work11:32
hybridXandirX: how old are you?11:32
djoneshiddenwolf: is windows the only partition on hda?11:32
kompulsiveselinium: if he's ignorant enough (the client) to somehow have the preference of sticking with redhat while he hires someone else to deal with an issue it has, you'll be able to use the "redhat is no more, here's the new bigger, better, client" ploy.11:32
maltjehi tony11:32
HiddenWolfdjones, yes11:32
tonyyo11:33
BurgundaviaxMaximex, what is the issue?11:33
TotallyUberwho can help withj muine?11:33
hybridBurgundavia: when will they be done with the conf?11:33
Burgundaviahybrid, April 3011:33
seliniumkompulsive: :)  Ubuntu is may first foray into the land of linux. I don't even boot the Windows system anymore! I suppose the question really is if changing from redhat to ubuntu would cause any problems.11:33
xMaximexBurgundavia, i dont remember ... let me try again .. brb11:33
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seliniumkompulsive: cheers for the pointer!11:33
hybridBurgundavia: so they wont really start up untill then?11:33
Burgundaviahybrid, they are planning the next release, then the serious hacking will begin11:34
tonyhow can i set my resolution on everytime i reboot?11:34
kompulsiveselinium: STAYING in redhat will cause problems in my opinion. it's "discontinued" if you will.11:34
XandriXcananyone ship me a cigar11:34
Burgundaviatony, it should just do it, what is it doing?11:34
hybridBurgundavia: ok ty11:34
djoneshiddenwolf, i've always had to reinstall grub when i had a problem11:34
hybridXandirX: how old are you? i bet i am younger11:34
tonyit set is to to 1280*96011:34
HiddenWolfdjones, purge it, you mean?11:35
TotallyUberwho uses muine?11:35
cuscohi... how can I install transcode?11:35
BurgundaviaTotallyUber, I do11:35
tonybut on reboot it's changed to 1900*?11:35
seliniumkompulsive: Redhat is dead, long live fedora? or red hat is dead, totally dead?11:35
XandriX15 soon 1611:35
XandriXu ?11:35
kompulsiveburgundavia: ....how do you like Breeze? it looks pretty spiffy. (you're talking about the macromedia conference software, right?)11:35
TotallyUberBurgundavia, can you help me then? mind if i message you?11:35
hybridXandriX: 1411:35
hybridturn 15 in Dec11:35
XandriXdo u smoke ?11:35
hybrid:P11:35
decafis there anyone from belgium to help tony ?11:35
XandriX;P11:35
djoneshiddenwolf, i don't know what I mean, I think the command is install-grub or something11:36
Burgundaviakompulsive, no, I am talking about UbuntuDownUnder, the development conference for Ubuntu/Canonicla11:36
hybridXandriX : nah but msg me11:36
BurgundaviaTotallyUber, sure11:36
XandriXdecaf, what language does he speal11:36
olorindecaf: from belgium ?11:36
XandriX*speak11:36
seliniumkompulsive burgundavia: I saw marcomedia demo breeze, it looks fantastic, licenses where a bit expensive though!11:36
cuscodoes anyone knows how can I install transcode please?11:36
maltjetony hoe zit het?11:36
HiddenWolfdjones, can I pm you?11:36
kompulsiveselinium: long life ff.....fidel! i shrug at the mention of fedora for the most part. i really only focus on gentoo/gentoo-hardened/ipcop/ubuntu when it comes to linux.11:36
holy_cowselinium, i dare you to try use it tho11:36
tonyi speak dutch but understand english11:36
holy_cow-_-11:36
Burgundaviaselinium, breeze? breezy badger is the next Ubuntu release11:36
maltjepak is aan tony11:36
tonypak?11:37
djoneshiddenwolf: sure11:37
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maltjeik ben u ne file aant sture11:37
seliniumBugundavia: Oh... I was wondering what animal they would use next!11:37
HiddenWolfmailtje, try speaking english, for the vast majority of people here11:37
maltjeit is maltje11:37
maltjelol11:37
olorintony: i'm belgian but i speak french :d11:37
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Burgundaviaselinium, they are also thinking about Grumpy Groundhog11:37
tonyi already closed that file maltje11:37
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maltjetony i'm sending you a file11:37
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tonymy french it so bad11:37
Burgundaviaselinium, that woudl be a rolling release, pulling and buildng things straight out of Upstream source control11:38
mrk182there is an user that speaks italian??????-----------------------------<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>11:38
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Burgundaviamrk182, have you tried #ubuntu-it ?11:38
maltjeI gonna have a cold breezer11:38
holy_cowlots of italians here tuday11:38
holy_cowubuntu must be getting some coverage over there11:39
seliniumBurgundavia: cool, when will they let us play with it?11:39
phlaxhi - does anyone know of a ubuntu package that can copy dvds on-the-fly?11:39
Burgundaviaselinium, no idea. take a look at http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/ for all the cool things they are planning11:39
jackmacokcwhat do you mean copy on the fly?11:40
phlaxnot make an iso image11:40
phlaxi have v little hdd space11:40
jackmacokcoh..so dvd to dvd11:40
phlaxyep11:40
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seliniumBurgundavia: Cheers!11:40
jackmacokchmm..i dont know any for ubuntu that can do that...but a good question. did you check videohelp.com?11:40
kompulsiveselinium: short of busting out my personal fanboy mascot uniform for each of the aforementioned linux flavors and proving that "my team is better" at the top of my lungs, it need not be said that they all excel at what they're intended for and it isn't a coincidence that they have brutally loyal user communities and consistent release schedules to prove it.11:41
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xMaximexBurgundavia, ok, that work11:42
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ZerboxxIs prelinking a good thing to do?11:42
seliniumkompulsive: LOL. I take it the best way of going forward with this till thing would be to get there software and see if it runs on Ubuntu?11:42
abbot45whats a program that copies DVDs the regualr way?  i just got a burner.11:42
jackmacokcdvd::rip11:43
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BlissexZerboxx: depends, but usually pretty good. It can be VERY good.11:43
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ZerboxxBlissex: So it shouldn't be "bad" though...right? :)11:43
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abbot45does that burn them too or just make an ISO that you burn to the DVD with another program?11:43
aboodguys, i wana ask if the ubuntu can open .deb packages, and can any body give me a link on how can i get mplayer im facing proplem with getting it . :(11:43
kompulsiveselinium: absolutely, what "software" is it?11:43
BlissexZerboxx: as a rule it should not be bad. There can be pathological situations in which it conceivably can be, but they must be pretty rare.11:44
jackmacokcjust makes the iso i believe..i havent actually used it yet11:44
abbot45ah11:44
jackmacokci've heard good things though11:44
abbot45cool.11:44
olorinabood: just add the nerim repository11:44
Blissexkompulsive: do a search for the Marillat APT repository on NERIM11:44
ZerboxxBlissex: What is prelinking? just curious11:44
aboodolorin, i did , but it wont work11:44
olorinnerim unstable ?11:44
kompulsiveselinium: even though if it ran on redhat, it'll probably be compatible or have source that works fine with ubuntu. structure-wise, it isn't much of a leap at all from redhat.11:44
aboodyes11:44
olorinabood: nerim unstable ?11:44
aboodolorin,  yes11:45
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olorinabood: what's the problem ?11:45
kompulsivebrb11:45
BlissexZerboxx: it is a very technical technique of technology. :-) Are you entirely familiar with dynamic linkers and share object tech?11:45
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aboodolorin, let me paste u the error lines in pvt11:45
ZerboxxBlissex: lol, of course not, so I'll just define it as "magic"11:45
phlaxabbot45: k3b, gnomebaker11:45
seliniumkompulsive: It is an electronic till, I have not yet seen it working yet. I believe it is bespoke. So i will have to find out what processes it uses, but apart from that i think it shouldn't be too hard!11:46
olorinabood: i wait :)11:46
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phlaxabbot45: ...i think but i dont have enuff space to try them.11:46
ZerboxxBlissex: ...as long as it doesn't start a program before I even have thought of starting it, I'm happy :)11:47
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BlissexZerboxx: that feature will be in the next release :-)11:47
seliniumIs any one here using X-chat? Does anyone know how to get it to perform an instruction on loading? ie /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>11:47
Jave27Quick question: I have a laptop, and the max screen resolution is 800x600...  How can I change the virtual resolution to 1024x768 and allow my mouse movements to scroll the screen?  I've seen it in other distos, but have no idea how to enable it in Ubuntu.. ?11:47
ZerboxxBlissex: lol!11:47
Blissexselinium: consider as an aside to read http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html11:48
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olorinabood: so ?11:49
Burgundaviaselinium, add your password to the nickserver password field11:49
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aboodolorin, just a min dude im resetting the source.list to find the errors lines11:51
ZerboxxWhen I do "xine-check" it brings up a warning about DMA, that has stopped the choppyness, where can I put that code so it occurs while booting up?11:53
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Zerboxx(I don't remember the code at this moment :s)11:53
ZerboxxOh, something about hdparm /dev/hda and DMA=1 or something11:53
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amichaianyone here use fglrx?11:55
jordanauamichai,  as in the ati drivers? yeah i do11:56
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amichaijordanau, do u use cedega?11:56
jordanauamichai, sorry no11:56
abbot45bah.  im trying to grab dvd::rip but there are dependancies for some of its dependancies that dont have new enough versions available in my repositories?  how can i fix that???11:56
amichaijordanau, what is the best method of tls to use, default, fast, or compatible?11:57
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jordanauamichai, i have no clue, are you having problems?11:57
Marble2ugh, can I view a list of programs recently installed through apt-get?11:57
amichaijordanau, dont know yet, what did u choose?11:57
jordanauamichai, are you running x config right now i guess?11:58
amichaiMarble2, synaptic11:58
amichaijordanau, yes11:58
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amichaijordanau, until now i've chosen compatible11:58
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amichaijordanau, and its worked11:58
falcon3anyone has CrossOver ?11:58
Marble2amblin: where do I go in synaptic11:58
amichaiMarble2, system>admin>synaptic11:59
jackmacokcabbot45: you're missing transcoder right?11:59
abbot45yeah11:59
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jordanauamichai, i really dont know, i think i used default, there are howtos on it let me see if i can find it11:59
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falcon3in Crossover Office Pro: When trying to install Dreamweaver MX, it says it's downloading a file with 'com' in it. there the app hangs and my pc gets really slow11:59
abbot45and some of its dependancies down the line arent available12:00

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