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| Simira | come on guys! Time to get up and moving! | 12:14 |
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| tseng | gosh | 12:14 |
| tseng | im up | 12:14 |
| Simira | you seem somewhat lonely to me, tseng ;) | 12:15 |
| tseng | everyone else is still in at breakfast | 12:15 |
| tseng | slow eaters. | 12:15 |
| Simira | hm. Tollef is not a slow eater. Just a large-eater :p | 12:16 |
| tseng | tollef is a sleepy head | 12:16 |
| Simira | he's sick, poor boy! | 12:17 |
| tseng | :( | 12:17 |
| Simira | physically, I mean. | 12:17 |
| dilinger | d'oh | 12:17 |
| Simira | it's your airconditioning, I think | 12:17 |
| dilinger | apparently making suggestions at a BOF that you're not actually attending, but just happened to spring up around you, gets you listed as a Key Person | 12:17 |
| tseng | dilinger: rock on. | 12:17 |
| Simira | yay | 12:18 |
| tseng | dilinger: i think jane and the gang are being really cool about scheduling, all things considered | 12:20 |
| Simira | jane and the gang, actually :) | 12:21 |
| tseng | hm? | 12:22 |
| === Simira misses Tollef a lot and lot and lot | ||
| tseng | any idea what UBB is? | 12:23 |
| Simira | Ubuntu Breezy Bounties? | 12:23 |
| Simira | No idea | 12:23 |
| tseng | oh, good call | 12:23 |
| dilinger | tseng: yea, i haven't had any complaints really | 12:23 |
| dilinger | other than two things being scheduled at the same time that i was interested in, but i didn't mark myself interested in the wiki, so that's my own fault | 12:24 |
| tseng | dilinger: http://pearls.tuxedo-es.org/patches/security/linking-protections-2.6.11-rc3.patch is the trulux patch | 12:24 |
| tseng | dilinger: he stuck it in namei.c | 12:24 |
| tseng | dilinger: and it has no sysctl | 12:24 |
| tseng | or actually, even a build option | 12:25 |
| dilinger | yea, i noticed the lack of sysctl | 12:25 |
| tseng | we cant make it always on. | 12:25 |
| dilinger | tseng: he said they're disabled via arguments passed to the module and sysfs | 12:26 |
| tseng | um. | 12:26 |
| dilinger | (again, i just skimmed through, so i didn't verify) | 12:26 |
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| tseng | there must be more to the patch then | 12:26 |
| tseng | there is no bit for Kconfig or anything to even make it a module | 12:27 |
| tseng | id rather make it work just like spenders copy | 12:27 |
| Unfrgiven | good morning tseng! | 12:27 |
| tseng | hey dude | 12:27 |
| Unfrgiven | how are we this morning? | 12:28 |
| tseng | fine thanks | 12:28 |
| tseng | we have a "getting involved in universe" bof today | 12:28 |
| tseng | so we can pick up from yesterday | 12:28 |
| Unfrgiven | yeah ill b there for sure | 12:29 |
| Unfrgiven | i was up past 3 trying to get dpatch to work... no luck :( | 12:29 |
| Unfrgiven | i even read ur blog | 12:29 |
| tseng | ill show you later, its easy | 12:30 |
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| Unfrgiven | tseng: my problem is that pbuilder doesnt seem to apply the patch | 12:32 |
| Unfrgiven | anyways no matter... ill see you there | 12:32 |
| Unfrgiven | im gonna go get ready | 12:32 |
| Unfrgiven | cya | 12:32 |
| tseng | yes, we'll look later | 12:32 |
| tseng | Simira: tollef is here and looking chipper! | 12:35 |
| Simira | tseng: without me? Hm... what's he been up to, I wonder... | 12:35 |
| Simira | tseng: give him a kick to get online, then :) | 12:36 |
| Simira | tseng: he'd probably good use for a long night's sleep, then. :-) | 12:37 |
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| dholbach | morning | 12:57 |
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| Simira | morning Sydney | 12:58 |
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| jsgotangco | good morning | 01:05 |
| tseng | hi. | 01:05 |
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| jammcq_oz | Riddell: hey, does kubuntu use kdm instead of gdm? | 01:59 |
| Burgundavia | jammcq_oz, you can choose either is you do an install on an Ubuntu box | 01:59 |
| mdke | jammcq_oz, #kubuntu | 01:59 |
| jammcq_oz | tanks | 02:00 |
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| mdke | hi smurfix | 02:00 |
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| mdke | smurfix, how is the locoteam stuff coming along? | 02:04 |
| dilinger | i'm hitting the mentos early this morning.. | 02:04 |
| tfheen | cc: any reason why SpecProcess is both Draft and Edited? | 02:04 |
| fabbione | pitti: you around? | 02:04 |
| pitti | fabbione: yeah | 02:05 |
| pitti | fabbione: sublime 3 | 02:05 |
| cc | tfheen: oversight, lets get it fixed | 02:05 |
| Riddell | jammcq_oz: yes it uses KDM of course | 02:05 |
| fabbione | pitti: gamin inotify backend is broken. Once i upload the new kernel with inotify, half of the apps using fam7gam will break | 02:05 |
| tfheen | cc: ok, it's edited? I'll change it, put it in the queue | 02:05 |
| fabbione | pitti: i suggest to temporary disable it in gamin | 02:05 |
| tfheen | s/, / and / | 02:06 |
| smurfix | mdke: EditedSpec, I cleaned up the last outstanding issuses last night | 02:06 |
| fabbione | pitti: mind if i do the upload? | 02:06 |
| pitti | fabbione: of course not :-) | 02:06 |
| fabbione | pitti: or do you want to do it? | 02:06 |
| cc | tfheen: yeah it is | 02:06 |
| fabbione | pitti: ok thanks | 02:06 |
| pitti | fabbione: I won't upload until next week | 02:06 |
| mdke | smurfix, come again? | 02:06 |
| tfheen | cc: ok, thanks. | 02:06 |
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| smurfix | mdke you wanted to know about the locoteam stuff | 02:06 |
| mdke | smurfix, yeah just that your answer went a bit over my head | 02:07 |
| mdke | ;) | 02:07 |
| smurfix | mdke: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamProcess | 02:07 |
| mdke | ty | 02:07 |
| pitti | thom: here? | 02:09 |
| thom | pitti: not if i can help it | 02:10 |
| pitti | thom: which package contains the default firefox page? | 02:10 |
| tfheen | ubuntu-artwork, I think | 02:11 |
| pitti | tfheen: that's what I hoped :-) | 02:11 |
| mdke | it definitely used to be in ubuntu-artwork | 02:11 |
| thom | ubuntu-artwork | 02:11 |
| pitti | thom: the translations, too? | 02:12 |
| thom | what translations? | 02:12 |
| pitti | thom: okay, thanks :-) | 02:12 |
| mdke | pitti, did anyone chat to you about getting documentation into the language-packs? | 02:12 |
| pitti | mdke: into the language-support packages at most; we covered the topic briefly yesterday, but we will flesh it out in today's bof | 02:13 |
| mdke | cool | 02:13 |
| mdke | see if you can get jsgotangco along :) | 02:13 |
| jsgotangco | what time is that | 02:14 |
| mdke | *laughs* | 02:14 |
| mdke | poor jsgotangco | 02:14 |
| jsgotangco | grrr | 02:14 |
| jsgotangco | i havent been sleeping well lately | 02:14 |
| mdke | pitti, i discussed it briefly with mdz and he was keen, but i understand it will be quite difficul | 02:14 |
| mdke | at the moment we are sticking translations into ubuntu-docs but its all a little bit improvised | 02:15 |
| pitti | mdke: can you come to today's BoF? | 02:15 |
| fabbione | pitti: gamin on the way | 02:15 |
| pitti | rock | 02:16 |
| mdke | pitti, other side of the worl | 02:16 |
| mdke | d | 02:16 |
| pitti | thom: ... and the default bookmarks? | 02:16 |
| jsgotangco | haha | 02:16 |
| mdke | dig a hole straight down, and you'll get to me | 02:16 |
| pitti | mdke: I think we developed a pretty good idea yesterday, just needs some fleshing out | 02:16 |
| thom | pitti: individual packages | 02:16 |
| pitti | thom: that means in m-ffox and so on? | 02:16 |
| mdke | pitti, by the way that firefox default page is the same as about-ubuntu isn't it? we have some translations of that | 02:16 |
| thom | yeah | 02:16 |
| mdke | maybe they could be transposed | 02:16 |
| pitti | thom: do you think it would be possible to move them into u-artwork? | 02:16 |
| pitti | thom: there must be some sort of dependency already for the startup page anyway? | 02:17 |
| pitti | mdke: yeah, but I think we don't use them in hoary | 02:17 |
| thom | pitti: possibly | 02:18 |
| mpt | That kind of bothers me | 02:18 |
| mdke | pitti, ok, if you want them, they are in the docs package ;) | 02:18 |
| mpt | MSIE's default home page in OS X isn't "About Windows" | 02:18 |
| mpt | er, Windows, sorry | 02:18 |
| mdke | its msn ;) | 02:19 |
| mpt | and Safari's default home page in OSX isn't "About OS X" | 02:19 |
| mpt | Yes, MSIE's is MSN, which lets you search the Web and stuff | 02:19 |
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| mpt | and Firefox's is Google, which lets you search the Web and stuff | 02:19 |
| mdke | i also agree, there is a prominent about-ubuntu icon in the gnome menu | 02:19 |
| mpt | and Safari's is ... what is Safari's? | 02:19 |
| mdke | so no real need for the home page | 02:19 |
| mpt | I think it's some Apple-branded Netscape.com | 02:19 |
| thom | mpt: one of our cases is offline users | 02:20 |
| thom | which means a local page | 02:20 |
| mpt | http://apple.netscape.com/ | 02:20 |
| jsgotangco | that is nice | 02:21 |
| mdke | what offline stuff does firefox get used for? | 02:21 |
| mpt | People, of their own volition, start up Firefox when they're offline? | 02:21 |
| thom | mdke: we can't assume our users actually *have* internet connections | 02:21 |
| mpt | without intending to go online? | 02:21 |
| HrdwrBoB | could be a local netwok | 02:21 |
| thom | mpt: totally, all the time | 02:21 |
| HrdwrBoB | network | 02:21 |
| tfheen | mpt: frequently, yes. | 02:21 |
| HrdwrBoB | or documentation | 02:21 |
| mdke | thom, agreed, but firefox is for the internet | 02:21 |
| mpt | If that's true, that's a bug in Nautilus | 02:21 |
| tfheen | I do it to read docs on planes and stuff | 02:21 |
| thom | mdke: no, it's for viewing html | 02:21 |
| fabbione | pitti: gamin accepted | 02:21 |
| jsgotangco | its good for html docs | 02:21 |
| jsgotangco | not just for the net | 02:22 |
| thom | whether it is online or off | 02:22 |
| mdke | thom, i think that people when reading html will open it from nautilus | 02:22 |
| mpt | i.e. it's too hard to find the doc in Nautilus and double-click it | 02:22 |
| tfheen | or actually, I run mozilla than since I've got session saved in ff. | 02:22 |
| jsgotangco | right | 02:22 |
| mdke | its really inconvenient to open ff and then go to "file/open" | 02:22 |
| mdke | i always open from nautilus | 02:22 |
| tfheen | mdke: that does not match how I use it, I use it for browsing for html files. | 02:22 |
| mdke | tfheen, fair enough | 02:22 |
| thom | mdke: totally disagree, i never use nautilus, i do use firefox offline; we need to support that case, which means no online home page | 02:23 |
| tfheen | mdke: I'm not saying both use cases are interesting, but your is not the only one. | 02:23 |
| mdke | tfheen, yes i see | 02:23 |
| mdke | tfheen, i suppose the solution adopted covers all bases | 02:23 |
| mpt | thom: Or, it means having an online home page and incorporating decent fixes for bug 28586 in the Ubuntu Fx package. | 02:23 |
| tfheen | mpt: which tracker is that bug # in? | 02:24 |
| thom | 28586 does not exist | 02:24 |
| tfheen | thom: b.m.o | 02:24 |
| tfheen | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28586 | 02:24 |
| mdke | is the firefox home page synched with the about ubuntu yelp page? | 02:25 |
| mpt | I know that bug number off by heart because I reported it so I can't unsubscribe from it :-) | 02:25 |
| mpt | Five years of bugspam | 02:25 |
| jsgotangco | haha a bug on the buglist | 02:26 |
| fabbione | tfheen, smurfix: aorund 11:30 will come a guy from the local university that is working on xen as upstream/derivate project to talk with me, if you are interested we can meet up in global? | 02:26 |
| tfheen | fabbione: rock | 02:27 |
| fabbione | tfheen: according to what he wrote me in the mail, it is a really interesting thing they are working on | 02:29 |
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| tfheen | Kamion: ping? | 02:33 |
| cc | tfheen: minu-buntu or mini-buntu? | 02:33 |
| tfheen | cc: mini-ubuntu, I think, and buntu would be pronounced microbuntu. | 02:34 |
| cc | tfheen: yeah, figured ;-) | 02:34 |
| cc | i'l fix it | 02:34 |
| tfheen | cc: thanks | 02:35 |
| hypatia | I've been calling it mu-buntu ;) | 02:35 |
| tfheen | I don't think there are any pronounciation rules for blends of greek and Zulu words. | 02:35 |
| cc | anyone see a dr. evil link ? | 02:36 |
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| tfheen | fabbione: I'm going to be in sublime 2 until 11:30, just ping me if the guy shows up. | 02:39 |
| fabbione | tfheen: no problem.. i will | 02:40 |
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| tfheen | sladen: get up to sublime 2, you're second. | 02:48 |
| smurfix | Anybody seen doko / abaxter around? | 02:54 |
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| fabbione | Kamion: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/04/27/1836227.shtml?tid=189&tid=190&tid=106 | 03:09 |
| zul | fabbione: someone just ported anaconda | 03:10 |
| ogra | zul to ubuntu ? | 03:10 |
| zul | gentoo | 03:10 |
| ogra | ah, ok... | 03:10 |
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| odyssey | are packages in main allowed to depend on a package that is in the universe? | 03:14 |
| tfheen | no | 03:14 |
| seb128 | they are not | 03:14 |
| odyssey | thats what i though | 03:14 |
| seb128 | why ? | 03:15 |
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| odyssey | i cant install libgda2-common from main without libgda2-3 that is in universe | 03:15 |
| seb128 | don't use breezy | 03:16 |
| seb128 | it's known to be broken | 03:16 |
| odyssey | k | 03:17 |
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| fabbione | tfheen: want to join us in global? | 03:24 |
| tfheen | fabbione: two minutes | 03:25 |
| fabbione | ok | 03:25 |
| jammcq_oz | pitti: in the audio bof yesterday, did you say that network audio wasn't going to be supported in breezy? | 03:26 |
| jammcq_oz | or do we get that for free, with polypaudio? | 03:27 |
| d3vic3 | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/04/msg01048.html | 03:34 |
| d3vic3 | :) | 03:34 |
| d3vic3 | *speechless* | 03:34 |
| pitti | jammcq_oz: if we switch to polypaudio (very likely), then you should have reasonable net support | 03:36 |
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| fabbione | tfheen: time is out: you are the weakest link. kthxbye | 03:38 |
| tfheen | thom: could you look at buntu and address cc's comments? Just steal my lock. | 03:42 |
| thom | tfheen: sure | 03:42 |
| cc | tfheen, thom: thanks | 03:43 |
| tfheen | thom: thanks a lot | 03:43 |
| thom | has anyone had breezy-changes mail today? | 03:47 |
| |QuaD- | thom: i did earlier on | 03:48 |
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| jiyuu0 | guys.. any inputs? | 04:06 |
| jiyuu0 | Unofficial UbuntuGuide 5.04 Add-On CD Guide | 04:06 |
| jiyuu0 | http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=150651 | 04:06 |
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| Kamion | tfheen: yes? | 04:10 |
| Kamion | fabbione: whatever :) | 04:10 |
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| lifeless | cc: ping | 04:18 |
| lifeless | can you please review TlaAndBazBranding ? | 04:19 |
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| louie_ | hello, lifeless | 04:19 |
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| lifeless | louie_: hi | 04:21 |
| lifeless | back home now ? | 04:21 |
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| Janux | hi, anyone knows how to show chinese characters in the xmms playlist? or music player in Ubuntu? | 04:28 |
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| tfheen | Kamion: uhm, forgotten what I was going to ask about. | 04:37 |
| Kamion | heh | 04:40 |
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| AndyFitz | http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/Screenshot.png maybe ? | 04:41 |
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| jnc | Janux: 'rhythmbox' *should* do it | 04:56 |
| spiv | Hmm? | 04:59 |
| spiv | Argh, death lag from hell. | 04:59 |
| jnc | hell hath no fury like a server split | 05:00 |
| jnc | i give up | 05:00 |
| tfheen | daniels: you going to sit around here for a little while? | 05:01 |
| tfheen | (it seems to be easier to catch your attention on IRC than RL. :P) | 05:02 |
| robertj | heya all, how is udu? | 05:02 |
| daniels | tfheen: yes | 05:02 |
| louie_ | oh, hrm, any opinions on how badly broken current breezy is? | 05:04 |
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| thom | mucho if you use evo | 05:09 |
| Lathiat | and any mono stuf | 05:11 |
| jdub | louie_: don't dist-upgrade, just upgrade ;) | 05:12 |
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| Lathiat | lathiat@archer:~$ cat .xsession-errors |tail -n1 | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | ...Too much output, ignoring rest... | 05:13 |
| louie_ | jdub: refresh my atrophied debian brain; what's the difference? | 05:13 |
| Lathiat | theres a good debugging feature :) | 05:13 |
| jdub | louie_: dist-upgrade will add and remove to satisyf the upgrade | 05:13 |
| jdub | louie_: upgrade just does what it can without removing | 05:14 |
| louie_ | ah | 05:14 |
| louie_ | right | 05:14 |
| Lathiat | what bit me was i had breezy running and then wanted to install evo which i previously had uninstalled :) | 05:14 |
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| louie_ | hrm | 05:19 |
| louie_ | yeah | 05:19 |
| louie_ | evo | 05:19 |
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| tfheen | Kamion: if you're happy with oemrescue, please move the post-it note on the wall and add it to mdz's queue. | 06:12 |
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| jsgotangco | tseng, ping? | 06:31 |
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| cc | elmo: ping; launchpad wiki lacks working spell checker; same problem as the udu wiki, so i presume its the same fix (utf-8 blah) | 06:37 |
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| robertj | oeminstaller seems pretty nice | 06:43 |
| robertj | as an idea anyway | 06:43 |
| robertj | too bad AFAIK partimage-server is b0rk in hoary | 06:44 |
| tfheen | oeminstaller is basically a nice wrapper around dd | 06:45 |
| tseng | jsgotangco: ? | 06:46 |
| tseng | jsgotangco: pongles | 06:46 |
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| dilinger | jbailey: ping | 06:49 |
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| cc | if anyone sees JuanjeOjedaQueue, OliverGrawertQueue, tell them to rock up please | 06:53 |
| tseng | rocks out, bottoms up dude. | 06:54 |
| ogra | cc ? | 06:54 |
| ogra | cc, whats wrong ? | 06:55 |
| cc | ogra: this is in regards to GraphicalPartitioningTool; and also, do you read your Activity page? because its been waiting on you for a while... | 06:56 |
| cc | ogra: please fix, thanks. or have another BOF and fix :) | 06:56 |
| Lathiat | cc: they are keeping you busy :) | 06:57 |
| cc | Lathiat: definitely; i pretty much know all the specs in my head now... | 06:57 |
| ogra | cc, i read it about hourly.... | 06:58 |
| Lathiat | heh | 06:58 |
| ogra | cc, whats missing ? what we meant with "ship" is explained in the brackets... i see no other comments | 06:58 |
| Kamion | I explained the ship thing | 06:59 |
| Kamion | it's standard Ubuntu terminology | 06:59 |
| ogra | yep | 06:59 |
| Kamion | although not standard outside Ubuntu :) | 07:00 |
| ogra | :) | 07:00 |
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| cc | ogra: i want information on packages affected; UI requirements (you have no thoughts on how it should look for the user), and the implementation plan can definitely be expanded, i'm sure | 07:01 |
| cc | Kamion: yeah, i figured that out after reading other docs in general. but i think others who are going to be picked up by google juice might not as well | 07:01 |
| Kamion | nod, that's why I explained ;) | 07:01 |
| ogra | cc, i'm not sure if we look at the same version.... | 07:01 |
| cc | then that: Check with parted list about preferred frontend - there have been some issues with qtparted and error handling in the past. May be fixed now, it's been a little while since I hung out on the list (StewartSmith) | 07:01 |
| cc | ogra: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/GraphicalPartitioningTool | 07:02 |
| cc | ogra: you're welcome to come here so i can tell you in person... | 07:02 |
| ogra | cc, i'll do :) | 07:02 |
| Kamion | is there any other Qt-based parted frontend? | 07:03 |
| tfheen | Kamion: 06:12 < tfheen> Kamion: if you're happy with oemrescue, please move the post-it note on the wall and add it to mdz's queue. | 07:04 |
| cc | Kamion: qt-parted is dead upstream iirc | 07:05 |
| Kamion | tfheen: yeah, was just doing that :) | 07:06 |
| Kamion | (done) | 07:06 |
| tfheen | Kamion: ok, goodie. Just didn't know if you'd seen me poking you | 07:06 |
| Kamion | cc: we do need something Qt-based for Kubuntu though - maybe that means one of us has to pick it up | 07:07 |
| Kamion | naturally the Ubuntu one would be GNOMEish | 07:07 |
| Kamion | or GTKish or whatever | 07:07 |
| Lathiat | gparted seems to work | 07:08 |
| cc | Kamion: i keep on forgetting about KDE users ;-) | 07:08 |
| Kamion | so if necessary, the spec might need to say that we need to assume maintenance ... | 07:10 |
| Kamion | dunno | 07:10 |
| cc | ogra: hear all that from Kamion okay... and make it into the spec | 07:13 |
| mako | if you are at UDU and want to do the keysigning: http://mako.yukidoke.org/projects/ksp-udu/ | 07:14 |
| mako | Riddell: ^^ | 07:14 |
| tfheen | Keybuk: if you could take a look at udevraces when you have time, I'd appreciate. | 07:14 |
| Keybuk | haven't we got a session on that one later? | 07:15 |
| tfheen | we have, but I wrote up what we have so far. :P | 07:15 |
| dilinger | mako: you just got verbed | 07:15 |
| dilinger | "i almost mako'd my laptop" | 07:16 |
| Keybuk | could be worse, the laptop could've been allouched | 07:16 |
| schweeb | you guys apparently don't know about whiprushing | 07:16 |
| mako | dilinger: heh | 07:17 |
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| dilinger | schweeb: whiprushing/ | 07:18 |
| dilinger | ? | 07:18 |
| Lathiat | mako: what did you do to your laptop :) | 07:18 |
| tseng | schweeb: wha? | 07:19 |
| schweeb | dilinger: it involves carelessly dist-upgrading :) | 07:19 |
| schweeb | and has been extended to just about anything whiprush does to his systems to screw then up | 07:19 |
| Keybuk | mako has been known to pour water over his laptop | 07:19 |
| schweeb | tseng: here's some dirt | 07:19 |
| Lathiat | haha | 07:19 |
| Keybuk | and then in the madness to clean it up, pour water over someone else's laptop | 07:19 |
| Lathiat | Keybuk: are you serious? | 07:19 |
| schweeb | tseng: whiprush's shutdown commands on certain boxes have needed to have been moved... he's been known to type shutdown -h now in the wrong terminal window | 07:20 |
| Lathiat | in hind site, that be funny :) | 07:20 |
| Kamion | Lathiat: see mako's blog passim | 07:20 |
| tfheen | Keybuk: and to drop his laptop into a bucket of water. | 07:20 |
| Lathiat | tfheen: was it on? | 07:20 |
| tseng | schweeb: i believe that | 07:20 |
| Lathiat | thats just scary :) | 07:20 |
| Kamion | the 'shutdown -h now' thing happens to us all, with variations | 07:20 |
| daniels | schweeb: the best solution I've seen is to divert shutdown to shutdown.hostname on every machine | 07:20 |
| mako | Lathiat: he's seriously | 07:20 |
| Kamion | 'ifdown eth0' OH SHIT is also a common variant | 07:20 |
| tseng | schweeb: i really enjoyed today listening to him bash gentoo people when he is like that | 07:20 |
| Lathiat | i had a friend who, on a friday night, shut down the wrong box | 07:20 |
| tfheen | Lathiat: I don't know. | 07:21 |
| daniels | so sudo shutdown.tycho on gabe is harmless | 07:21 |
| Keybuk | killall python...oh fuck, it's SunOS | 07:21 |
| daniels | well, sudo shutdown.tycho -h now | 07:21 |
| daniels | Keybuk: heh | 07:21 |
| === Lathiat has far too many times gone 'ip r d default' instead of 'ip -6 r d default' | ||
| schweeb | tseng: I'm not too fond of gentoo myself... | 07:21 |
| Lathiat | that hurts | 07:21 |
| tfheen | Kamion: I've stopped doing shutdowns without doing a fresh login. That helps a fair bit. | 07:21 |
| tseng | schweeb: me neither, but he's a bigot :P | 07:21 |
| schweeb | daniels: yea... or have the hostname in your prompt, and think before you type :) | 07:21 |
| schweeb | thinking before you type is the best preventative method :) | 07:22 |
| daniels | i have the hostname in my prompt, but thinking before I type is not my strongpoint | 07:22 |
| tfheen | differently coloured terminals for different hosts help too | 07:23 |
| tfheen | friend of mine uses that. And has a fair amount of hosts to attend to | 07:23 |
| Lathiat | mako: ahh, good work. | 07:24 |
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| jdub | http://perkypants.org/misc/the-fridge.jpg | 07:39 |
| tseng | zomg | 07:40 |
| elmo | omghfsnw | 07:40 |
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| jammcq_oz | mdz_: ping | 07:40 |
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| hawke | The bug here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=154504 seems to apply to ubuntu also...where should I report this? | 07:42 |
| ctd | to bugzilla.ubuntu.com | 07:43 |
| hawke | ctd: thanks | 07:43 |
| Unfrgiven | jdub: what is the fridge bof about? | 07:45 |
| moquist | Unfrgiven: a website where folks can stick the best work to show mom & dad. | 07:46 |
| ogra | Kamion, isnt that up tothe kubutu guys to care for the qt-parted maintenance (find someone) ? i really cant judge qt tools... | 07:47 |
| Riddell | ogra: why are we talking about qt-parted | 07:48 |
| ogra | Riddell, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/GraphicalPartitioningTool | 07:49 |
| ogra | Riddell, do you know any alternative for usage in a liveCD installer ? | 07:49 |
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| jbailey | Anyone seen silbs? | 07:52 |
| fabbione | jbailey: she is in global | 07:52 |
| fabbione | right in front of me | 07:52 |
| jbailey | Thanks. =) | 07:52 |
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| Unfrgiven | moquist: ur not serious right? | 07:54 |
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| Riddell | ogra: qtparted, but I've never used it | 07:57 |
| hawke | jbailey: enjoy your new bug. | 07:57 |
| Riddell | ogra: but yes, it'll be up to kubuntu to make it usable | 07:57 |
| ogra | Kamion, so we wouldnt have to cover it in _this_ spec, right ? | 07:57 |
| jbailey | hawke: Which one? | 07:58 |
| hawke | jbailey: 10245 | 07:58 |
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| jbailey | Reduced testcase! | 07:59 |
| jbailey | Sweet! | 07:59 |
| jbailey | hawke: Thanks. =) | 07:59 |
| hawke | jbailey: Well, I didn't come up with the test case(s), so I can't take credit for that. | 08:02 |
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| moquist | Unfrgiven: only a tiny bit. :) | 08:17 |
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| Janux | jnc, hi, sorry I was afk, but how do I make it working? | 08:30 |
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| pitti | Keybuk: where are you? | 08:34 |
| Keybuk | pitti: vibe out | 08:37 |
| pitti | Keybuk: I was asked by elmo that you are a wanker | 08:38 |
| Keybuk | I am? | 08:38 |
| pitti | Keybuk: elmo ... to tell you that ... | 08:38 |
| pitti | Keybuk: no idea what that is | 08:38 |
| Keybuk | he's such a charming character | 08:38 |
| Keybuk | is he actually coming to this bof? | 08:38 |
| === Keybuk is waiting | ||
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| pitti | Keybuk: he just started to go up | 08:38 |
| pitti | carlos: here? | 08:39 |
| carlos | pitti: hi | 08:41 |
| pitti | carlos: you totally confused me, my original desktop proposal was right | 08:42 |
| carlos | pitti: ok, sorry then... O:-) | 08:42 |
| jbailey | Has anyone explained to pitti what a wanker is yet? =) | 08:43 |
| d3vic3 | O.O | 08:44 |
| tfheen | jbailey: I suspect not. | 08:44 |
| pitti | jbailey: someone did | 08:44 |
| === Treenaks hands pitti dict | ||
| === d3vic3 hands pitti brain soap | ||
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| zyga | hello | 09:11 |
| Amaranth | mpt: I just found http://mpt.phrasewise.com/discuss/msgReader$173. Seems like you've been at this for awhile. ;) | 09:15 |
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| cc | pitti: ping | 09:36 |
| pitti | cc: pong | 09:37 |
| cc | pitti: do you want to add anything to BrandingForDerivatives? kamion is satisfied with it, but just checking w/you | 09:37 |
| pitti | cc: we reviewed it together, it's fine for me | 09:37 |
| cc | pitti: excellent. i'll ping you again when i'm done with it | 09:37 |
| pitti | cc: thanks, great | 09:37 |
| seb128 | cc, what do you want to get changed for GdmRoadmap ? | 09:46 |
| cc | pitti: go ahead physically move it along; its an EditedSpec now | 09:46 |
| cc | seb128: scope and use cases (for the new changes); will it affect any migration? like people's current gdm stuff?; what packages besides gdm will be affected (do you need to include anything into main?); any UI requirements (new features must still be accessible, etc...?) | 09:47 |
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| seb128 | k, thanks | 09:47 |
| cc | seb128: ping me again when done (or just add it to my queue) | 09:48 |
| seb128 | k | 09:49 |
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| tfheen | Keybuk: had the time to read udevraces yet? | 10:33 |
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| fabbione | elmo: please -> forum | 10:33 |
| Keybuk | I'll read it in the BOF :) | 10:33 |
| tfheen | blah, user. | 10:34 |
| pitti | carlos: can you please review LanguagePackRoadmap? | 10:34 |
| JaneW | nice to actually know who you guys are now .. ;) | 10:35 |
| Keybuk | and nice to know we do change t-shirts? | 10:36 |
| daniels | JaneW: do you really mean that, or are you frightened and working on your resum now? | 10:36 |
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| Treenaks | daniels: that happened last time, right? :P | 10:36 |
| fabbione | can somebody ping elmo please? | 10:36 |
| JaneW | Keybuk: yeah that especially | 10:37 |
| fabbione | ah here he is | 10:37 |
| JaneW | Keybuk: except I fear it;s only because you get given free new ones, and get excited to try them on...? | 10:37 |
| JaneW | daniels: hehehe - maybe... | 10:37 |
| daniels | JaneW: mmm -- I'm now five shirts up from when I left home a week and a half ago | 10:38 |
| JaneW | fabbione: he's not anywhere near me. | 10:38 |
| JaneW | daniels: did you bring a spare suitcase to get them home in? | 10:38 |
| Lathiat | i didnt even get my linux.conf.au shirt | 10:40 |
| Lathiat | they didnt get them in until thursday, by the time i asked, they were all gone | 10:40 |
| daniels | JaneW: nope, my current one can apparently expand to 30% of its size | 10:41 |
| daniels | JaneW: either that, or I'll start throwing some of the older shirts out :P | 10:41 |
| JaneW | that would be contract technically | 10:41 |
| Lathiat | haha | 10:41 |
| daniels | JaneW: ber, 130 | 10:42 |
| JaneW | 130%? | 10:42 |
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| JaneW | or expand and extra 30%? | 10:42 |
| daniels | an extra 30 | 10:42 |
| daniels | being able to shrink to a third of its size is a neat party trick | 10:42 |
| JaneW | ok, at least we are clear on that now | 10:42 |
| cc | mpt: remember to check MatthewThomasActivity (as it seems thru the wiki you might be thinking you're MatthewPaulThomas (which you are), but you only have an actiivty page without the paul bit) | 10:49 |
| jiyuu0 | is there a command where i can get the path only minus the filename | 10:50 |
| tfheen | dirname | 10:50 |
| cc | mdz: Kamion was looking for you earlier (he popped in here); he might've found you i dont know | 10:51 |
| jiyuu0 | thanks i'll give it a try | 10:51 |
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| mdz | cc: if it was more than about an hour ago, he found me | 11:01 |
| cc | mdz: no idea, time has become a void to me it'd seem | 11:01 |
| tfheen | cc: please ping me if you have any comments on udevraces. | 11:02 |
| cc | tfheen: is that in my queue? | 11:02 |
| tfheen | should be | 11:02 |
| tfheen | as of five minutes ago or so | 11:02 |
| cc | tfheen: since you're online, lemme read that.. | 11:03 |
| tfheen | cc: yay, thanks | 11:04 |
| === cc puts ogra's back in the queue | ||
| ogra | cc, for which one ? | 11:04 |
| cc | ogra: hwdb | 11:05 |
| cc | ogra: its really interesting btw. i'm half-way thru | 11:05 |
| ogra | there are three ;) | 11:05 |
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| === cc didn't realise you're online too i guess | ||
| ogra | heh... | 11:05 |
| ogra | need input ? i have spare time now | 11:05 |
| cc | ogra: give me 10 mins, finish with tfheen | 11:05 |
| ogra | ok | 11:06 |
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| thom | Even when the Canonical employees are factored out (the company seems to have moved its offices to Canberra for the conference), Ubuntu has clearly claimed a significant part of the distribution "market" among Linux developers. | 11:07 |
| thom | (from LWN) | 11:07 |
| tseng | wow | 11:07 |
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| tseng | canberra | 11:07 |
| thom | LCA last week | 11:07 |
| tseng | oh. | 11:07 |
| dilinger | offices relocate weekly | 11:08 |
| jsg_ | did LCA go well? | 11:08 |
| elmo | ubuntu was scarily prevalent there | 11:08 |
| tfheen | jsg_: yes | 11:08 |
| Treenaks | elmo: how? | 11:08 |
| elmo | Treenaks: eh? | 11:08 |
| Treenaks | 11:08 < elmo> ubuntu was scarily prevalent there | 11:08 |
| seb128 | somebody knows where is jdub ? | 11:09 |
| tseng | Treenaks: alot of people were using it/ interested? | 11:09 |
| tseng | seb128: vibe out | 11:09 |
| seb128 | has he planned to move downstair ? | 11:09 |
| smurfix | tseng: more than half of the panelists IIRC said they're using Ubuntu | 11:10 |
| smurfix | tseng: The rest mostly Debian, with one lone Gentoo hold-out ;-) | 11:10 |
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| tfheen | seb128: he seems fairly comfy where he's sitting | 11:11 |
| seb128 | tfheen, k, thanks | 11:13 |
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| tfheen | seb128: I could probably throw stuff at him until he goes away, if you really want that | 11:13 |
| jdub | seb128: pong? | 11:13 |
| ogra | lol | 11:13 |
| tseng | tfheen: mentos | 11:13 |
| tseng | tfheen: go. | 11:13 |
| seb128 | jdub, ah nice | 11:13 |
| seb128 | query | 11:13 |
| daniels | can someone please throw fruit mentos with the clear plastic tabs at me, very gently? | 11:14 |
| daniels | i need sugar | 11:14 |
| Unfrgiven | tseng: lol | 11:14 |
| daniels | i repeat: very gently | 11:14 |
| dilinger | i think i'm sitting in the wrong place for this mentos tossing game | 11:14 |
| tfheen | dilinger: come to vibeout | 11:14 |
| tfheen | bring mentos | 11:14 |
| tfheen | go wild | 11:15 |
| dilinger | tfheen: i am in vibeout | 11:15 |
| daniels | tfheen: he's *in* vibe out | 11:15 |
| tseng | right behind you!!!!!ONE | 11:15 |
| thom | tfheen: HE'S BEHIND YOU! | 11:15 |
| daniels | a good one point five metres from you | 11:15 |
| daniels | sniper in the trees! sniper in the trees! | 11:15 |
| tfheen | dilinger: then just bring mentos and go wild. | 11:15 |
| daniels | dilinger: yeah dude, where's the mentos? | 11:15 |
| daniels | slacker | 11:15 |
| dilinger | i ate 'em all | 11:15 |
| dilinger | they were tasty | 11:15 |
| dilinger | so very tasty | 11:15 |
| tseng | its too much effort to get back out of this little chill pad | 11:16 |
| daniels | goddamnit, dude | 11:16 |
| tseng | to get anything. | 11:16 |
| dilinger | the a/c rocks | 11:16 |
| dilinger | i wish i discovered this room earlier | 11:16 |
| daniels | tseng: i suspect it would be even less effort if you had a cushion in the chair | 11:16 |
| daniels | do you want it? | 11:16 |
| tseng | fuck yes | 11:16 |
| tseng | lets have it | 11:16 |
| tseng | daniels: cheers | 11:17 |
| daniels | i live to give | 11:17 |
| d3vic3 | :-D | 11:17 |
| ctd | those mentos things are addictive | 11:19 |
| daniels | a little, yes | 11:19 |
| ctd | I think by the end of the installfest the whole room of them had gone. :) | 11:19 |
| tseng | and the keep refilling them | 11:20 |
| tseng | its a healthy crack substitute | 11:20 |
| daniels | i wonder what the hotel's mentos bill is | 11:20 |
| ctd | heh | 11:20 |
| tfheen | daniels: 1 megadollars/day. | 11:20 |
| tfheen | at least with us around | 11:20 |
| tseng | 80 megamentos limit | 11:21 |
| ctd | 2megadollars on monday | 11:21 |
| tseng | slow down with the throwing | 11:21 |
| thom | especially when lamont MIRVs them | 11:21 |
| === ctd wishes UDU had flumotion streaming love. | ||
| tseng | its a bunch of 20 something guys sitting in a cold room talking on irc | 11:21 |
| cartman | ctd: me too | 11:21 |
| ctd | or I could magically appear in vibeout. | 11:22 |
| tseng | when they could just yell across the room | 11:22 |
| tseng | you dont need a feed | 11:22 |
| lamont_r | tseng: we're _BEING_POLITE_ dammit. :-) | 11:22 |
| Treenaks | oh no.. another candy-throwing episode? | 11:22 |
| tseng | lamont_r: you're in another room, dude! | 11:22 |
| dilinger | tseng is totally downplaying the hot mentos action | 11:22 |
| ctd | hell, maybe I should convince school to let me attend UDU tomorrow. :) | 11:22 |
| === Treenaks remembers the foodfights in Mataro | ||
| jsgotangco | ctd, you should :) | 11:22 |
| lamont_r | tseng: true | 11:22 |
| tseng | lamont_r: come up, ill throw candy at you | 11:23 |
| tseng | unless you got sucked into a bof | 11:23 |
| ctd | If not tomorrow, I'll turn up Saturday. :) | 11:23 |
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| daniels | tseng: DO NOT WASTE IT ON LAMONT. THROW IT AT ME IF YOU HAVE ANY. | 11:23 |
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| daniels | (gently!!) | 11:23 |
| ctd | and throw mentos at daniels | 11:23 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 11:23 |
| astharot | ciao | 11:23 |
| daniels | oh my god | 11:24 |
| daniels | tseng is the mentos fairy | 11:24 |
| ctd | going to shops | 11:24 |
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| JaneW | ctd: don't do it! | 11:24 |
| thom | there is probably a sydney wide shortage now | 11:24 |
| jsgotangco | don't bother all the mentos are here | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | i ate like a thousand already | 11:25 |
| tseng | thom: they could get more if they looked on the floors and in the cushions | 11:25 |
| daniels | jsgotangco: only? | 11:25 |
| JaneW | hehehe | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | daniels, for the day | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 11:25 |
| thom | or just around lamont | 11:25 |
| === JaneW may never eat mentos again | ||
| jsgotangco | i had like 5 redbulls this afternoon only | 11:25 |
| jsgotangco | im so full of caffeine | 11:25 |
| daniels | JaneW: you'l be chasing that sweet, sweet first hit | 11:25 |
| daniels | jsgotangco: clearly what you need now is shitloads of sugar | 11:25 |
| JaneW | too many traumatic memories associated... | 11:25 |
| lamont_r | jsgotangco: not much caffeine in redbull | 11:26 |
| lamont_r | daniels: he got that in the redbull | 11:26 |
| daniels | i have a very good caffeine hit upstairs | 11:26 |
| daniels | about ten packs of foosh mints | 11:26 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 11:26 |
| tseng | yet you are begging for mentos | 11:26 |
| ctd | redbull isn't very effective. | 11:26 |
| cc | lotsa mentos here | 11:26 |
| daniels | http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffeine/candy/6e27/ | 11:26 |
| ctd | I find V better. | 11:26 |
| cc | sublime 3 is the place to be (for mentos at least) | 11:27 |
| ctd | heh | 11:27 |
| === ogra thinks offering mentos on conferences is based on a conspiration of the dentists | ||
| daniels | tseng: it's been almost three weeks since I've had caffeine yet | 11:27 |
| daniels | oh my god, yes | 11:27 |
| jsgotangco | gyahh | 11:27 |
| daniels | it's even worse than jelly belly | 11:27 |
| ctd | peer-to-peer mentos trading. | 11:27 |
| tseng | cc: ill give you a 2AUD thingy to come in here and throw a shitload at thom | 11:27 |
| cc | tseng: where is here? | 11:27 |
| === cc could use the walk | ||
| tseng | cc: vibe out | 11:27 |
| tseng | it has to be a good hit | 11:27 |
| cc | till jbailey rocked up, i was the only one here for hours. boo hiss | 11:27 |
| tseng | and you cant run | 11:27 |
| thom | cc: i'll raise you a piece of eight | 11:27 |
| === cc starts coming | ||
| thom | to hit tseng instead | 11:28 |
| === thom runs away to a bof | ||
| d3vic3 | cc the sweet assassin | 11:28 |
| ctd | You can't hide in BOFs! | 11:28 |
| ctd | so, when's the Mentos BOF going to be? | 11:29 |
| tseng | it just happened | 11:29 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 11:29 |
| dilinger | that's every bof | 11:29 |
| ctd | heh | 11:29 |
| jsgotangco | ooohhh Pepsi Max | 11:30 |
| bob2 | it's like pepsi | 11:31 |
| tseng | whats the max | 11:31 |
| d3vic3 | eish! mentos flying around | 11:31 |
| bob2 | but with artificial sugar | 11:31 |
| bob2 | ten times as much | 11:31 |
| dilinger | it's raining | 11:31 |
| thom | men...tos | 11:32 |
| jsgotangco | you cant finish the BOFs with Mentos raining around | 11:32 |
| JaneW | your BOF is finished now | 11:32 |
| d3vic3 | so are the flying mentos | 11:33 |
| dilinger | thom: parallel mentos init, with dependencies (the freshmaker) | 11:33 |
| ogra | *g* | 11:33 |
| bob2 | the foomaker. | 11:33 |
| === JaneW finishes another red bull | ||
| bob2 | careful with that | 11:34 |
| tseng | man | 11:34 |
| JaneW | ~~WIRED~~ | 11:34 |
| tseng | id hate to be the one cleaning this up | 11:34 |
| bob2 | or you'll be bouncing off the walls too much to catch the omlettes | 11:34 |
| dilinger | it's only a matter of time before i become a human shield | 11:34 |
| tseng | theyll be finding mentos for weeks | 11:34 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 11:34 |
| tseng | daniels hit some dude right in the face | 11:34 |
| tseng | brutality. | 11:35 |
| cc | so, do i get my money? ;-) | 11:35 |
| daniels | tseng: abentley | 11:35 |
| tseng | for what? | 11:35 |
| tseng | i didnt even see you come in here | 11:35 |
| cc | tseng: pfft. daniels be my witness, i did | 11:35 |
| === cc figures tseng doesn't know who he is | ||
| tseng | i do | 11:35 |
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| daniels | cc came in here yeah | 11:36 |
| tseng | did he rain mentos on thom ? | 11:37 |
| cc | thom ran away unfortunately | 11:37 |
| JaneW | note to all: DINNER IS AT 20:30 - AS USUAL | 11:37 |
| tseng | well then | 11:37 |
| tseng | you get nothing. | 11:37 |
| bob2 | JaneW: but I'm hungry NOW | 11:37 |
| cc | JaneW: not 20:15 | 11:37 |
| tseng | JaneW: pfft | 11:37 |
| JaneW | ok ok, 20:19 | 11:37 |
| d3vic3 | we are in diet *runs* | 11:37 |
| JaneW | compromise ;) | 11:37 |
| d3vic3 | s/in/on/ | 11:38 |
| daniels | cc: thom's here, dude | 11:38 |
| JaneW | d3vic3: after this week I need one! | 11:38 |
| dilinger | ogra: ooh, i hope we have fish again. how about you? | 11:38 |
| cc | dand: i'm back editing ogra's thingo now | 11:38 |
| daniels | tseng with the headshot | 11:38 |
| daniels | 12q1`````````5~5 | 11:39 |
| tseng | rock out. | 11:39 |
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| jsgotangco | I hope they wont give me fish anymore for dinner | 11:39 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, ;) | 11:40 |
| ajmitch_ | you liked the fish, right? | 11:40 |
| jsgotangco | i only ate the fish | 11:41 |
| tseng | dinners here are such crack | 11:41 |
| jsgotangco | i wanted the bloody meat | 11:41 |
| tseng | where is dholbach | 11:42 |
| ogra | tseng, global | 11:44 |
| tseng | blah | 11:44 |
| JaneW | and I keep getting meat when *I* want fish | 11:47 |
| JaneW | go figure... | 11:47 |
| tseng | JaneW: crack! | 11:47 |
| tseng | they try to give me vegan food for some reason | 11:48 |
| tseng | i dont like green leafy crap | 11:48 |
| JaneW | it's like they want to try break us all | 11:48 |
| JaneW | which will be oretty soon | 11:48 |
| JaneW | pretty | 11:48 |
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| JaneW | they broke kinnison already | 11:49 |
| JaneW | with the feather thing | 11:49 |
| jsgotangco | the pillows? | 11:49 |
| tfheen | yeah, he's really allergic to feathers. | 11:49 |
| koke | hey, I'd kill for some fried eggs & chips :) | 11:49 |
| tseng | fried eggs? | 11:49 |
| jsgotangco | id like a big mac for a change | 11:49 |
| tseng | you guys are sick | 11:50 |
| tfheen | mcdonalds isn't food. | 11:50 |
| jsgotangco | exactly | 11:51 |
| smurfix | That's kindof the point with McD ;-) | 11:51 |
| tseng | ogra: why isnt dholbach online | 11:53 |
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| seb128 | cc, GdmRoadmap updated | 12:01 |
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| cc | seb128: ok, looking at it now (looks a lot nicer, yes) | 12:03 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:04 |
| ogra | tseng, dunno... i'll poke hm.... | 12:08 |
| tseng | im on a mentos downer | 12:10 |
| ogra | in global there are still plenty of mentos | 12:10 |
| daniels | tseng: dude, there are shitloads on the table | 12:11 |
| daniels | like, bowls | 12:11 |
| tseng | i know | 12:11 |
| tseng | i mean | 12:11 |
| tseng | sugerbomb | 12:11 |
| daniels | heh | 12:11 |
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| tseng | AndyFitz: <3 | 12:11 |
| koke | I think mentos+red bull was not a sensible mixture | 12:12 |
| koke | clock runs slower before dinner | 12:12 |
| === koke hunnngry | ||
| jsgotangco | me too | 12:14 |
| lamont_r | mjg59: where you at? | 12:18 |
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| bluefoxicy | should "Marked Changes" be in "Status"? and not "Custom"? | 12:23 |
| cc | daniels: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgAutoconfiguration is that like a draft spec? | 12:26 |
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| Taliesin` | o.O | 12:57 |
| Taliesin` | buh bye telstra? :P | 12:57 |
| hypatia | could be | 12:59 |
| === Lathiat pats his westnet adsl, not at UDU :) | ||
| === Lathiat cries cus hes not at UDU | ||
| Taliesin` | i didnt know about it until yesterday | 01:01 |
| ctd | so, earlier discussion has caused me to find the mentos song on my desktop. | 01:03 |
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| cartman | http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,120520,00.asp <-- check out | 01:26 |
| solomarv | sweet | 01:27 |
| ctd | "became the second fabulously rich guy to literally buy his way into orbit." | 01:31 |
| ctd | Not what I heard. :| | 01:31 |
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| solomarv | ctd, what have you heard? | 01:35 |
| ctd | I don't think he really bought his way in from what he said at lca. | 01:44 |
| solomarv | ctd: he did pay $20 mil, didn't he? | 01:44 |
| ctd | can't remember that bit, but it wasn't just a holiday or anything. | 01:45 |
| === ctd 's memory is bad right now. | ||
| === solomarv kindly suggests reading third paragraph on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth | ||
| hypatia | as I understand it, he paid the money, but also underwent the complete training program. | 01:46 |
| hypatia | which is probably true of all the "space tourists" to date. | 01:46 |
| Lathiat | yeh he did | 01:47 |
| Lathiat | i went to his talk at linux.conf.au | 01:47 |
| Lathiat | the training he went through was rather horrendous :) | 01:47 |
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| jsgotangco | ogra, hi hehehe | 03:04 |
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| ogra | jsgotangco, evil .au server | 03:05 |
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| trulux | heya folks | 03:12 |
| trulux | pitti: hey! | 03:12 |
| pitti | hi trulux | 03:12 |
| trulux | pitti: how's it going? I have many thinks to talk about, regarding the pro. sec. BOF | 03:12 |
| pitti | trulux: please look at http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/ProactiveSecurityRoadmap, there might be things that interest you | 03:13 |
| pitti | night, folks | 03:15 |
| trulux | pitti: I printed that early in the morning | 03:16 |
| trulux | oops :( | 03:16 |
| === trulux has been working out stuff from there | ||
| trulux | fabbione: there? | 03:16 |
| === ajmitch_ waves night to pitti | ||
| trulux | ajmitch_: one moment | 03:16 |
| trulux | ajmitch_: just two things: where did you put the fixed pam packages, and, if you can be reached by phone at UDU, I might call you for telling you about a few details regarding our BOF/UDU politics | 03:17 |
| trulux | as I can't go there, you might be able to help out | 03:17 |
| trulux | just on concrete things around the SELinux BOF and the PS one | 03:18 |
| ajmitch_ | email me | 03:18 |
| jsgotangco | it would be nice to have a mentos food fight before we all go to bed | 03:18 |
| trulux | ajmitch_: ok, to the gnu.org, right? | 03:19 |
| ajmitch_ | ihug.co.nz may work better | 03:20 |
| trulux | oh, ok | 03:20 |
| trulux | if you have your account on fencepost I would just send to localhost ;D | 03:20 |
| ajmitch_ | it is | 03:22 |
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| ajmitch_ | night all | 03:38 |
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| souki | hello, where to post bug-report for hoary ? | 03:58 |
| zul | bugzilla.ubuntulinux.com | 04:01 |
| souki | zul, thanks, do I need to register? | 04:02 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 04:03 |
| Burgundavia | souki, what package? | 04:03 |
| souki | Burgundavia, firefox | 04:04 |
| souki | I've noticed a strabge bug with textarea | 04:04 |
| Burgundavia | ok, that is bugzilla | 04:04 |
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| zyga | hello | 04:17 |
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| Janux | hi, anyone here can help me? my xmms and music player play list cannot show chinese characters, any clue? | 06:11 |
| Burgundavia | #ubuntu for help | 06:12 |
| Burgundavia | this channel would be for your patch to fix it | 06:12 |
| Janux | Burgundavia, someone directed me from there to here, and they even directed me to ubuntu-zh but I didn't get any help from there. | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | I would try google for an answer | 06:17 |
| Janux | Burgundavia, okay.....thanks | 06:18 |
| Burgundavia | sorry I cannot be of help | 06:18 |
| jnc | Janux: not sure. i'll take a look at it if i find the time to do so | 06:22 |
| Janux | thank you for both of you...:) | 06:26 |
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| enrico | Hello. Is there some arch/tla/baz hacker I can query for a question? | 07:18 |
| zul | i think they have their own channel | 07:19 |
| enrico | right | 07:19 |
| Lathiat | #voodoo-magic-evil-of-the-dark | 07:19 |
| Burgundavia | no no no | 07:20 |
| Burgundavia | #small-children-sacraficed-here | 07:20 |
| zul | or even #bazaar? | 07:21 |
| Lathiat | sounds less evil | 07:22 |
| zul | sounds more right though | 07:23 |
| Lathiat | true | 07:23 |
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| spo0nman | is there any way to make uml boot into a kernel other than the running one? | 08:25 |
| zul | huh? | 08:25 |
| spo0nman | zul, :-? | 08:26 |
| zul | what was the question? | 08:27 |
| spo0nman | is there a way to make user mode linux boot a kernel off an installation media? | 08:27 |
| zul | like a cd-rom? | 08:28 |
| spo0nman | zul, yes. | 08:28 |
| zul | i havent seen it done before but check goocle | 08:28 |
| zul | 08:28 | |
| spo0nman | hmm k | 08:29 |
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| trulux | someone here able to do some prelink work? | 11:04 |
| trulux | I'm fixing the stuff on http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/ProactiveSecurityRoadmap | 11:04 |
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| Simira | morning Sydnay | 11:06 |
| Simira | Sydney, even | 11:06 |
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| kay | When will gcc 4.0.0 come into Breezy? | 11:48 |
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| tseng | its already there. | 11:48 |
| Simira | tseng, always the first one... | 11:50 |
| Simira | still breakfast, eh? | 11:50 |
| tseng | Simira: i slept in today, miss | 11:50 |
| tseng | havent even showered yet | 11:50 |
| Simira | tseng: so you're not really up yet, heh? | 11:50 |
| tseng | nope :P | 11:50 |
| kay | hm.... why is still named gcc-4.0_4.0-0pre11_i386.deb then :p | 11:53 |
| tseng | erm, we cant upload this week | 11:54 |
| kay | what? | 11:55 |
| tseng | what I said. | 11:55 |
| kay | ok, then please tell me why, is Breezy already frozen ? ;-) | 11:55 |
| tseng | there is no bandwidth here to spare | 11:56 |
| kay | wow, that's bad news | 11:57 |
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| Simira | mornin, mdke | 11:57 |
| tseng | kay: i said 1 week | 11:58 |
| kay | Sorry if I get on your nerves, but can you say how this comes? | 11:59 |
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| tseng | http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDownUnder/ | 12:00 |
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