=== eruin [~eruin@eruin.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === xuzo [~xuzo@81-203-41-93.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:14] come on guys! Time to get up and moving! [12:14] gosh [12:14] im up [12:15] you seem somewhat lonely to me, tseng ;) [12:15] everyone else is still in at breakfast [12:15] slow eaters. [12:16] hm. Tollef is not a slow eater. Just a large-eater :p [12:16] tollef is a sleepy head [12:17] he's sick, poor boy! [12:17] :( [12:17] physically, I mean. [12:17] d'oh [12:17] it's your airconditioning, I think [12:17] apparently making suggestions at a BOF that you're not actually attending, but just happened to spring up around you, gets you listed as a Key Person [12:17] dilinger: rock on. [12:18] yay [12:20] dilinger: i think jane and the gang are being really cool about scheduling, all things considered [12:21] jane and the gang, actually :) [12:22] hm? === Simira misses Tollef a lot and lot and lot [12:23] any idea what UBB is? [12:23] Ubuntu Breezy Bounties? [12:23] No idea [12:23] oh, good call [12:23] tseng: yea, i haven't had any complaints really [12:24] other than two things being scheduled at the same time that i was interested in, but i didn't mark myself interested in the wiki, so that's my own fault [12:24] dilinger: http://pearls.tuxedo-es.org/patches/security/linking-protections-2.6.11-rc3.patch is the trulux patch [12:24] dilinger: he stuck it in namei.c [12:24] dilinger: and it has no sysctl [12:25] or actually, even a build option [12:25] yea, i noticed the lack of sysctl [12:25] we cant make it always on. [12:26] tseng: he said they're disabled via arguments passed to the module and sysfs [12:26] um. [12:26] (again, i just skimmed through, so i didn't verify) === jammcq_oz [~jam@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:26] there must be more to the patch then [12:27] there is no bit for Kconfig or anything to even make it a module [12:27] id rather make it work just like spenders copy [12:27] good morning tseng! [12:27] hey dude [12:28] how are we this morning? [12:28] fine thanks [12:28] we have a "getting involved in universe" bof today [12:28] so we can pick up from yesterday [12:29] yeah ill b there for sure [12:29] i was up past 3 trying to get dpatch to work... no luck :( [12:29] i even read ur blog [12:30] ill show you later, its easy === Keybuk [~scott@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:32] tseng: my problem is that pbuilder doesnt seem to apply the patch [12:32] anyways no matter... ill see you there [12:32] im gonna go get ready [12:32] cya [12:32] yes, we'll look later [12:35] Simira: tollef is here and looking chipper! [12:35] tseng: without me? Hm... what's he been up to, I wonder... [12:36] tseng: give him a kick to get online, then :) [12:37] tseng: he'd probably good use for a long night's sleep, then. :-) === tfheen [~tfheen@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [~james@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === blueyed [~daniel@iD4CC0222.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont_r [~lamont@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dholbach [~daniel@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:57] morning === jsgotangco [~jsg@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mkde [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:58] morning Sydney === Zugot [~bryan@pcp0010860530pcs.longhl01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mpt [~mpt@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cc [~cc@freedesktop.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] good morning [01:05] hi. === seb128 [~seb@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [~anthony@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === CarlK [~ck2@c-24-13-52-189.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cc2 [~cc@freedesktop.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === morgs [~morgan@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === d3vic3 [~d3vic3@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:59] Riddell: hey, does kubuntu use kdm instead of gdm? [01:59] jammcq_oz, you can choose either is you do an install on an Ubuntu box [01:59] jammcq_oz, #kubuntu [02:00] tanks === smurfix [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:00] hi smurfix === smurfix waves === cc2 is now known as cc === hypatia [~mary@CommSecureAustPtyLtd.sb1.optus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:04] smurfix, how is the locoteam stuff coming along? [02:04] i'm hitting the mentos early this morning.. [02:04] cc: any reason why SpecProcess is both Draft and Edited? [02:04] pitti: you around? [02:05] fabbione: yeah [02:05] fabbione: sublime 3 [02:05] tfheen: oversight, lets get it fixed [02:05] jammcq_oz: yes it uses KDM of course [02:05] pitti: gamin inotify backend is broken. Once i upload the new kernel with inotify, half of the apps using fam7gam will break [02:05] cc: ok, it's edited? I'll change it, put it in the queue [02:05] pitti: i suggest to temporary disable it in gamin [02:06] s/, / and / [02:06] mdke: EditedSpec, I cleaned up the last outstanding issuses last night [02:06] pitti: mind if i do the upload? [02:06] fabbione: of course not :-) [02:06] pitti: or do you want to do it? [02:06] tfheen: yeah it is [02:06] pitti: ok thanks [02:06] fabbione: I won't upload until next week [02:06] smurfix, come again? [02:06] cc: ok, thanks. === koke [~koke@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:06] mdke you wanted to know about the locoteam stuff [02:07] smurfix, yeah just that your answer went a bit over my head [02:07] ;) [02:07] mdke: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamProcess [02:07] ty [02:09] thom: here? [02:10] pitti: not if i can help it [02:10] thom: which package contains the default firefox page? [02:11] ubuntu-artwork, I think [02:11] tfheen: that's what I hoped :-) [02:11] it definitely used to be in ubuntu-artwork [02:11] ubuntu-artwork [02:12] thom: the translations, too? [02:12] what translations? [02:12] thom: okay, thanks :-) [02:12] pitti, did anyone chat to you about getting documentation into the language-packs? [02:13] mdke: into the language-support packages at most; we covered the topic briefly yesterday, but we will flesh it out in today's bof [02:13] cool [02:13] see if you can get jsgotangco along :) [02:14] what time is that [02:14] *laughs* [02:14] poor jsgotangco [02:14] grrr [02:14] i havent been sleeping well lately [02:14] pitti, i discussed it briefly with mdz and he was keen, but i understand it will be quite difficul [02:15] at the moment we are sticking translations into ubuntu-docs but its all a little bit improvised [02:15] mdke: can you come to today's BoF? [02:15] pitti: gamin on the way [02:16] rock [02:16] pitti, other side of the worl [02:16] d [02:16] thom: ... and the default bookmarks? [02:16] haha [02:16] dig a hole straight down, and you'll get to me [02:16] mdke: I think we developed a pretty good idea yesterday, just needs some fleshing out [02:16] pitti: individual packages [02:16] thom: that means in m-ffox and so on? [02:16] pitti, by the way that firefox default page is the same as about-ubuntu isn't it? we have some translations of that [02:16] yeah [02:16] maybe they could be transposed [02:16] thom: do you think it would be possible to move them into u-artwork? [02:17] thom: there must be some sort of dependency already for the startup page anyway? [02:17] mdke: yeah, but I think we don't use them in hoary [02:18] pitti: possibly [02:18] That kind of bothers me [02:18] pitti, ok, if you want them, they are in the docs package ;) [02:18] MSIE's default home page in OS X isn't "About Windows" [02:18] er, Windows, sorry [02:19] its msn ;) [02:19] and Safari's default home page in OSX isn't "About OS X" [02:19] Yes, MSIE's is MSN, which lets you search the Web and stuff === mdke nods [02:19] and Firefox's is Google, which lets you search the Web and stuff [02:19] i also agree, there is a prominent about-ubuntu icon in the gnome menu [02:19] and Safari's is ... what is Safari's? [02:19] so no real need for the home page [02:19] I think it's some Apple-branded Netscape.com [02:20] mpt: one of our cases is offline users [02:20] which means a local page [02:20] http://apple.netscape.com/ [02:21] that is nice [02:21] what offline stuff does firefox get used for? [02:21] People, of their own volition, start up Firefox when they're offline? [02:21] mdke: we can't assume our users actually *have* internet connections [02:21] without intending to go online? [02:21] could be a local netwok [02:21] mpt: totally, all the time [02:21] network [02:21] mpt: frequently, yes. [02:21] or documentation [02:21] thom, agreed, but firefox is for the internet [02:21] If that's true, that's a bug in Nautilus [02:21] I do it to read docs on planes and stuff [02:21] mdke: no, it's for viewing html [02:21] pitti: gamin accepted [02:21] its good for html docs [02:22] not just for the net [02:22] whether it is online or off [02:22] thom, i think that people when reading html will open it from nautilus [02:22] i.e. it's too hard to find the doc in Nautilus and double-click it [02:22] or actually, I run mozilla than since I've got session saved in ff. [02:22] right [02:22] its really inconvenient to open ff and then go to "file/open" [02:22] i always open from nautilus [02:22] mdke: that does not match how I use it, I use it for browsing for html files. [02:22] tfheen, fair enough [02:23] mdke: totally disagree, i never use nautilus, i do use firefox offline; we need to support that case, which means no online home page [02:23] mdke: I'm not saying both use cases are interesting, but your is not the only one. [02:23] tfheen, yes i see [02:23] tfheen, i suppose the solution adopted covers all bases [02:23] thom: Or, it means having an online home page and incorporating decent fixes for bug 28586 in the Ubuntu Fx package. [02:24] mpt: which tracker is that bug # in? [02:24] 28586 does not exist [02:24] thom: b.m.o [02:24] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28586 [02:25] is the firefox home page synched with the about ubuntu yelp page? [02:25] I know that bug number off by heart because I reported it so I can't unsubscribe from it :-) [02:25] Five years of bugspam [02:26] haha a bug on the buglist [02:26] tfheen, smurfix: aorund 11:30 will come a guy from the local university that is working on xen as upstream/derivate project to talk with me, if you are interested we can meet up in global? [02:27] fabbione: rock [02:29] tfheen: according to what he wrote me in the mail, it is a really interesting thing they are working on === decko [~decko@143.107.220.163] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jba [~jba@210.185.67.18] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:33] Kamion: ping? [02:33] tfheen: minu-buntu or mini-buntu? [02:34] cc: mini-ubuntu, I think, and buntu would be pronounced microbuntu. [02:34] tfheen: yeah, figured ;-) [02:34] i'l fix it [02:35] cc: thanks [02:35] I've been calling it mu-buntu ;) [02:35] I don't think there are any pronounciation rules for blends of greek and Zulu words. [02:36] anyone see a dr. evil link ? === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp136-226.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:39] fabbione: I'm going to be in sublime 2 until 11:30, just ping me if the guy shows up. [02:40] tfheen: no problem.. i will === jnc [shadow@macco.pimpcat.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:48] sladen: get up to sublime 2, you're second. [02:54] Anybody seen doko / abaxter around? === LinuxJones [~LinuxJone@blk-222-221-81.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:09] Kamion: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/05/04/27/1836227.shtml?tid=189&tid=190&tid=106 [03:10] fabbione: someone just ported anaconda [03:10] zul to ubuntu ? [03:10] gentoo [03:10] ah, ok... === nickrud [~nickrud@ppp-69-239-114-239.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nickrud [~nickrud@ppp-69-239-114-239.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["It's] === danko123456 [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-63-38.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === danko123456 [~dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-63-38.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === odyssey [~mat@odyssey.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:14] are packages in main allowed to depend on a package that is in the universe? [03:14] no [03:14] they are not [03:14] thats what i though [03:15] why ? === tm17h [~tom@c-24-218-179-18.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:15] i cant install libgda2-common from main without libgda2-3 that is in universe [03:16] don't use breezy [03:16] it's known to be broken [03:17] k === mrzero [~ole@orwen.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tm17h [~tom@c-24-218-179-18.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:24] tfheen: want to join us in global? [03:25] fabbione: two minutes [03:25] ok [03:26] pitti: in the audio bof yesterday, did you say that network audio wasn't going to be supported in breezy? [03:27] or do we get that for free, with polypaudio? [03:34] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/04/msg01048.html [03:34] :) [03:34] *speechless* [03:36] jammcq_oz: if we switch to polypaudio (very likely), then you should have reasonable net support === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.26.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:38] tfheen: time is out: you are the weakest link. kthxbye [03:42] thom: could you look at buntu and address cc's comments? Just steal my lock. [03:42] tfheen: sure [03:43] tfheen, thom: thanks [03:43] thom: thanks a lot [03:47] has anyone had breezy-changes mail today? 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joined #ubuntu-devel [04:28] hi, anyone knows how to show chinese characters in the xmms playlist? or music player in Ubuntu? === hybrid [~hybrid@dpc6744177080.direcpc.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [04:37] Kamion: uhm, forgotten what I was going to ask about. [04:40] heh === AndyFitz [~andy@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:41] http://andy.fitzsimon.com.au/Screenshot.png maybe ? === A_Alam [~a_alam@202.41.228.162] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cens0red [~hairy@dialup-172.97.220.203.acc01-waym-adl.comindico.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [04:56] Janux: 'rhythmbox' *should* do it [04:59] Hmm? [04:59] Argh, death lag from hell. [05:00] hell hath no fury like a server split [05:00] i give up [05:01] daniels: you going to sit around here for a little while? [05:02] (it seems to be easier to catch your attention on IRC than RL. :P) [05:02] heya all, how is udu? [05:02] tfheen: yes [05:04] oh, hrm, any opinions on how badly broken current breezy is? === doko [~doko@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:09] mucho if you use evo [05:11] and any mono stuf [05:12] louie_: don't dist-upgrade, just upgrade ;) === Lathiat wonders how to figure out why nautilus cant find burn:/// [05:13] lathiat@archer:~$ cat .xsession-errors |tail -n1 [05:13] ...Too much output, ignoring rest... [05:13] jdub: refresh my atrophied debian brain; what's the difference? [05:13] theres a good debugging feature :) [05:13] louie_: dist-upgrade will add and remove to satisyf the upgrade [05:14] louie_: upgrade just does what it can without removing [05:14] ah [05:14] right [05:14] what bit me was i had breezy running and then wanted to install evo which i previously had uninstalled :) === seb128 [~seb@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:19] hrm [05:19] yeah [05:19] evo === koke [~koke@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === louie_ is now known as lu|sleep === nullaresnata [~henriquem@cb-217-129-175-184.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nullaresnata [~henriquem@cb-217-129-175-184.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tfheen [~tfheen@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:12] Kamion: if you're happy with oemrescue, please move the post-it note on the wall and add it to mdz's queue. === jsgotangco [~jsg@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cc [~cc@byte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === d3vic3 [~d3vic3@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === smurfix [~smurf@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [~james@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:31] tseng, ping? === jsg_ [~jsg@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:37] elmo: ping; launchpad wiki lacks working spell checker; same problem as the udu wiki, so i presume its the same fix (utf-8 blah) === UbuntuGet [~gustav@gw5.web.thalamus.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Burgundavia [~corey@S01060050bfff2437.du.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [~robitaill@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont_r [~lamont@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:43] oeminstaller seems pretty nice [06:43] as an idea anyway [06:44] too bad AFAIK partimage-server is b0rk in hoary [06:45] oeminstaller is basically a nice wrapper around dd [06:46] jsgotangco: ? [06:46] jsgotangco: pongles === jbailey [~jbailey@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === niran [~niran@lucianus.Stanford.EDU] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:49] jbailey: ping === d3vic3 [~d3vic3@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:53] if anyone sees JuanjeOjedaQueue, OliverGrawertQueue, tell them to rock up please [06:54] rocks out, bottoms up dude. [06:54] cc ? [06:55] cc, whats wrong ? [06:56] ogra: this is in regards to GraphicalPartitioningTool; and also, do you read your Activity page? because its been waiting on you for a while... [06:56] ogra: please fix, thanks. or have another BOF and fix :) [06:57] cc: they are keeping you busy :) [06:57] Lathiat: definitely; i pretty much know all the specs in my head now... [06:58] cc, i read it about hourly.... [06:58] heh [06:58] cc, whats missing ? what we meant with "ship" is explained in the brackets... i see no other comments [06:59] I explained the ship thing [06:59] it's standard Ubuntu terminology [06:59] yep [07:00] although not standard outside Ubuntu :) [07:00] :) === `anthony [~anthony@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:01] ogra: i want information on packages affected; UI requirements (you have no thoughts on how it should look for the user), and the implementation plan can definitely be expanded, i'm sure [07:01] Kamion: yeah, i figured that out after reading other docs in general. but i think others who are going to be picked up by google juice might not as well [07:01] nod, that's why I explained ;) [07:01] cc, i'm not sure if we look at the same version.... [07:01] then that: Check with parted list about preferred frontend - there have been some issues with qtparted and error handling in the past. May be fixed now, it's been a little while since I hung out on the list (StewartSmith) [07:02] ogra: http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/GraphicalPartitioningTool [07:02] ogra: you're welcome to come here so i can tell you in person... [07:02] cc, i'll do :) [07:03] is there any other Qt-based parted frontend? [07:04] Kamion: 06:12 < tfheen> Kamion: if you're happy with oemrescue, please move the post-it note on the wall and add it to mdz's queue. [07:05] Kamion: qt-parted is dead upstream iirc [07:06] tfheen: yeah, was just doing that :) [07:06] (done) [07:06] Kamion: ok, goodie. Just didn't know if you'd seen me poking you [07:07] cc: we do need something Qt-based for Kubuntu though - maybe that means one of us has to pick it up [07:07] naturally the Ubuntu one would be GNOMEish [07:07] or GTKish or whatever [07:08] gparted seems to work [07:08] Kamion: i keep on forgetting about KDE users ;-) [07:10] so if necessary, the spec might need to say that we need to assume maintenance ... [07:10] dunno [07:13] ogra: hear all that from Kamion okay... and make it into the spec [07:14] if you are at UDU and want to do the keysigning: http://mako.yukidoke.org/projects/ksp-udu/ [07:14] Riddell: ^^ [07:14] Keybuk: if you could take a look at udevraces when you have time, I'd appreciate. [07:15] haven't we got a session on that one later? [07:15] we have, but I wrote up what we have so far. :P [07:15] mako: you just got verbed [07:16] "i almost mako'd my laptop" [07:16] could be worse, the laptop could've been allouched [07:16] you guys apparently don't know about whiprushing [07:17] dilinger: heh === koke [~koke@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:18] schweeb: whiprushing/ [07:18] ? [07:18] mako: what did you do to your laptop :) [07:19] schweeb: wha? [07:19] dilinger: it involves carelessly dist-upgrading :) [07:19] and has been extended to just about anything whiprush does to his systems to screw then up [07:19] mako has been known to pour water over his laptop [07:19] tseng: here's some dirt [07:19] haha [07:19] and then in the madness to clean it up, pour water over someone else's laptop [07:19] Keybuk: are you serious? [07:20] tseng: whiprush's shutdown commands on certain boxes have needed to have been moved... he's been known to type shutdown -h now in the wrong terminal window [07:20] in hind site, that be funny :) [07:20] Lathiat: see mako's blog passim [07:20] Keybuk: and to drop his laptop into a bucket of water. [07:20] tfheen: was it on? [07:20] schweeb: i believe that [07:20] thats just scary :) [07:20] the 'shutdown -h now' thing happens to us all, with variations [07:20] schweeb: the best solution I've seen is to divert shutdown to shutdown.hostname on every machine [07:20] Lathiat: he's seriously [07:20] 'ifdown eth0' OH SHIT is also a common variant [07:20] schweeb: i really enjoyed today listening to him bash gentoo people when he is like that [07:20] i had a friend who, on a friday night, shut down the wrong box [07:21] Lathiat: I don't know. [07:21] so sudo shutdown.tycho on gabe is harmless [07:21] killall python...oh fuck, it's SunOS [07:21] well, sudo shutdown.tycho -h now [07:21] Keybuk: heh === Lathiat has far too many times gone 'ip r d default' instead of 'ip -6 r d default' [07:21] tseng: I'm not too fond of gentoo myself... [07:21] that hurts [07:21] Kamion: I've stopped doing shutdowns without doing a fresh login. That helps a fair bit. [07:21] schweeb: me neither, but he's a bigot :P [07:21] daniels: yea... or have the hostname in your prompt, and think before you type :) [07:22] thinking before you type is the best preventative method :) [07:22] i have the hostname in my prompt, but thinking before I type is not my strongpoint [07:23] differently coloured terminals for different hosts help too [07:23] friend of mine uses that. And has a fair amount of hosts to attend to [07:24] mako: ahh, good work. === _mvo_ [~egon@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === thoreauputic [~debianarc@wolax7-130.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:39] http://perkypants.org/misc/the-fridge.jpg [07:40] zomg [07:40] omghfsnw === jammcq_oz [~jam@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hawke [~hawke@68.78.212.97] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:40] mdz_: ping === morg1 [~morgan@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === snaggen [~snaggen@c-3379e255.034-37-73746f12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:42] The bug here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=154504 seems to apply to ubuntu also...where should I report this? [07:43] to bugzilla.ubuntu.com [07:43] ctd: thanks [07:45] jdub: what is the fridge bof about? [07:46] Unfrgiven: a website where folks can stick the best work to show mom & dad. [07:47] Kamion, isnt that up tothe kubutu guys to care for the qt-parted maintenance (find someone) ? i really cant judge qt tools... [07:48] ogra: why are we talking about qt-parted [07:49] Riddell, http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/GraphicalPartitioningTool [07:49] Riddell, do you know any alternative for usage in a liveCD installer ? === susus [~sz@p5089E511.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:52] Anyone seen silbs? [07:52] jbailey: she is in global [07:52] right in front of me [07:52] Thanks. =) === seb128 [~seb@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elbi [~elbi@cpe.atm2-0-1071006.0x50a0824e.abnxx3.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:54] moquist: ur not serious right? === jsgotangco [~jsg@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:57] ogra: qtparted, but I've never used it [07:57] jbailey: enjoy your new bug. [07:57] ogra: but yes, it'll be up to kubuntu to make it usable [07:57] Kamion, so we wouldnt have to cover it in _this_ spec, right ? [07:58] hawke: Which one? [07:58] jbailey: 10245 === mpt [~mpt@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:59] Reduced testcase! [07:59] Sweet! [07:59] hawke: Thanks. =) [08:02] jbailey: Well, I didn't come up with the test case(s), so I can't take credit for that. === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === morg1 [~morgan@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:17] Unfrgiven: only a tiny bit. :) === ficusplanet [~brad@12-216-224-47.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zerokarmaleft [~zerokarma@ip68-12-45-133.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === morg1 [~morgan@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === aisipos [~anton@dsl081-081-225.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:30] jnc, hi, sorry I was afk, but how do I make it working? === Mirv [~tajyrink@Mirv.active.supporter.pdpc] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Safari_Al [~tr@ppp136-226.lns1.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@intern146.lnk.telstra.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:34] Keybuk: where are you? [08:37] pitti: vibe out [08:38] Keybuk: I was asked by elmo that you are a wanker [08:38] I am? [08:38] Keybuk: elmo ... to tell you that ... [08:38]