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Burgundaviasalut mdke 12:59
mdkehi Burgundavia 12:59
mdkehows things?12:59
Burgundavianot bad01:00
Burgundaviafinally getting my speech done01:00
mdkespeech?01:00
Burgundaviagiving a talk about Ubuntu01:00
Burgundaviahttp://lfnw.blug.org/fest2005/schedule.dxp01:00
mdkeawesome01:00
mdkecool agenda01:01
Burgundavialol http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Kenjiromu/paid.jpg01:01
mdkewhat talks are you gonna attend? apart from your own...01:02
Burgundaviano idea01:02
jsgotangcosalut01:03
mdkelooks like loads of cool ones01:03
mdkehi jsgotangco 01:03
Burgundaviahey our UDU-going friend01:03
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mdkeseen this? http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,120520,00.asp01:04
Burgundaviayep01:04
Burgundaviadistrowatch keeps are pretty good handle on the reviews01:05
mdkeoh right01:05
mdkecool01:05
jsgotangcowhats cookin01:08
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Burgundavianah, he is already in aussie, he is already there01:10
jsgotangcoi might move here01:11
jsgotangcothe weather is really nice01:11
mdkejsgotangco, ignore those meetings and I will turn up the fire01:11
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mdkei wouldn't put it past you crazy guys to have one of those01:13
mdkeits out today isn't it?01:13
jsgotangcothere was a request for that over here01:13
Burgundaviahttp://www.linuxjournal.com/article/827601:16
Burgundaviacool, it mentions that we are presenting01:16
jsgotangcomdke, there's only a Rosetta WorkFlow bof atm01:29
mdkei haven't seen the timetable for today01:33
mdkejsgotangco, you just have fun!01:33
mdkethat's what its all about01:33
Burgundaviait thurs or wed there?01:33
mdkethur01:33
mdkedid you guys see that henrik transferred the static documentation from the website to the wiki?01:34
jsgotangcono i didnt notice that01:36
jsgotangcosure im having fun here but the bay is so inviting outside...*sniff*01:36
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mdkeBurgundavia, aww leave him alone01:38
mdkehe is there for himself and to have a good time01:38
Burgundavianope01:38
jsgotangconaw that's too selfish01:38
mdkewell i certainly didn't pay any of his fare01:38
jsgotangcoim the defender of the dokteam kause01:38
mdkejsgotangco, :)01:38
jsgotangconote the k01:38
mdkeyes01:39
mdkeit was a forced smile01:39
jsgotangcohahaha01:39
jsgotangcopeople say my gnome was borked because it had Ks all over01:39
Burgundaviaevil evil KDE users01:39
Burgundaviashould be shot01:39
mdkei have to say, there is a certain amount of incompatibility between kde and gnome on Ubuntu when you run both01:39
jsgotangcoshot Riddel and amu01:39
mdkei'm tempted to file it as a bug01:40
jsgotangcoi just run ubuntu gnome now01:40
jsgotangcomy kubuntu is so borked01:40
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jsgotangcothis thing is soooo plain01:40
jsgotangcowe had this artwork bof01:40
jsgotangcoandy was heading it01:40
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jsgotangcohe hated the 1pixel black borders on icons01:41
mdkejsgotangco, you musn't name drop and assume that i know who you're talking about01:41
jsgotangcoi dont know his nick!01:41
mdkesurname?01:41
jsgotangcowell anyway he did some nice human icons on draft but was totally way out of the gnome spec01:42
jsgotangcofitzimmons01:42
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jsgotangcoit was pretty shiny though, like kde icons01:42
jsgotangcobut not so cartoonish01:42
=== Burgundavia curses at OO.o impress
BurgundaviaI like the clean plain desktop01:43
jsgotangcohe's trying to get Human as default on breezy01:43
jsgotangcobecase the current human icons are plain hideous01:43
jsgotangcoBurgundavia, im on default as well01:43
mdkemeh01:44
mdkei can't stand brown on my desktop01:44
mdkei like blue01:44
jsgotangcothat reminds me01:44
jsgotangcolet me get ubuntu-cal01:44
jsgotangcoawww but that would make me remove my rushcutters bay wallpaper01:44
Burgundaviashiny --> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=23446&file1=23446-1.png&file2=&file3=&name=Ubuntu+World01:45
Burgundaviaalready  --> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=23376&file1=23376-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Ubuntu+5.10+%28Breezy+Badger%29+CD+cover01:45
jsgotangcowho did that?01:46
Burgundaviano idea01:46
mdkethe first one is ok01:46
Burgundaviais on gnome-look01:46
jsgotangcoits got australia01:46
Burgundaviamy current --> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/files/19845-lanscape.jpg01:47
jsgotangcooohhhh that's nice01:48
Burgundaviathere are a series by him01:48
BurgundaviaI use tobacco-sky for a gdm login screen01:49
mdkewhat gnome theme?01:50
Kinnisonburgey!01:50
Burgundaviasalut Kinnison, my favourite camera target01:50
BurgundaviaI am missing you01:51
Burgundaviamdke, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=1817801:51
jsgotangcoi like tobacco sky01:51
mdkewhat gnome theme?01:51
jsgotangcobbl BOF01:51
mdkethats a sexy gdm01:51
Burgundaviaindeed01:51
Burgundaviathere are some thoughts that something like that should be default01:51
Burgundaviait is also very calm01:52
mdkegeez I need that gdm01:52
Burgundaviaand has no text on it01:52
KinnisonBurgundavia: It's a pity because there's a rather cute one here01:52
BurgundaviaKinnison, dammit!01:52
Burgundaviawho?01:53
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jsgotangcohaha01:53
KinnisonBurgundavia: We went to a gay bar last night too, it was so much fun.01:53
jsgotangcoKinnison, @ Kings Cross?01:54
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jsgotangcoits only thursday you can still catch a plane and arrive on saturday01:56
Burgundaviaright01:56
BurgundaviaI have to give a talk on Sat01:56
Burgundaviaand I have no money01:56
Burgundaviaaussie costs a lot to get there01:57
KinnisonBurgundavia: aye01:57
Kinnisonjsgotangco: darlinghurst01:57
BurgundaviaI spent my money on a trip to Spain01:57
jsgotangcoi only like $10A in my pocket01:57
Burgundaviain retrospect, I should have applied01:57
BurgundaviaI didn't realize how under-represented the docteam was going to be01:57
jsgotangcoaye01:58
jsgotangcohmmm01:58
Burgundaviacest la vie, prochaine fois01:58
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jsgotangcomary drops by now and then anyway01:58
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mdkejsgotangco, it doesn't matter!01:58
BurgundaviaOO.o Impress has this annoying bug of trying to save every 15 minutes when the doc hasn't been saved at all01:59
Burgundaviaso rather tahn just silently saving a temp somehwer, it pops up and grabs attention01:59
Burgundaviaeven across virtual desktops01:59
jsgotangcoheh  not just impress01:59
BurgundaviaI hate OO02:00
BurgundaviaI just wish there was a presentation app for Gnome Office02:00
cc2Burgundavia: you can turn that feature off02:00
Burgundaviacc, it is not off by default02:01
Burgundaviathat is a bug02:01
Burgundaviaand I don't use OO.o enough to dig through and find it02:01
jsgotangcono thats an undocumented feature02:01
ccBurgundavia: actually, with upstream it is. its _not_ a bug. its a feature. Word has it turned on02:01
jsgotangco*grin*02:01
ccas does any sane office suite02:01
Burgundaviacc, it looks like a bug and smells like a bug02:01
jsgotangcoaye02:01
Burgundaviacc, it grabs my attention and beeps my computer speaker02:01
Burgundaviathat is a BUG02:01
ccBurgundavia: you can turn that off, if you'd like. i.e. even the prompting bit. it can just "autosave" (and that might annoy some too)02:02
ccthere's no winning with users. everyone wants it set differently02:02
mdkeautosave = good. Autosave when doc is not already saved = bad02:02
ccso, it just gets set "one way"02:02
Burgundaviacc, still on by default though02:02
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Burgundaviaautosave is a good idea, but this implementation is a bad idea02:02
Burgundaviaunderstand that key difference02:02
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jsgotangcoautosave is good02:02
jsgotangcohypatia, hi02:03
Burgundaviagenerally OO.o is a pile of Usability bugs jammed into a terrible interface02:03
Burgundaviawith an annoying help interface to boot02:03
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hypatiamorning02:03
jsgotangcogyaahh don't use it02:03
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mdkehi hypatia 02:03
jsgotangcogo back to the holy grail of office suite02:04
Burgundaviacc, even if I knew you were an upstream OO devel, I still would have said that02:04
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ccBurgundavia: i know; it blows, but i'm telling you the difference i guess02:05
ccthe fact that by default its disabled upstream02:05
ccand we had a bug filed saying enable it02:05
Burgundaviacc, I understand where you are coming from02:05
Burgundaviayou have a huge legacy codebase02:05
Burgundaviaand a legacy of trying to emulate MS Office02:05
Burgundaviawhich to me is a very bad thing, but that is a topic for another discussion02:06
ccBurgundavia: and its the best, at the moment (and probably will be for a long time)02:06
BurgundaviaI agree with you there02:07
jsgotangcodoes the same thing happen in OOo v2?02:07
Burgundaviacc, you work for sun?02:07
ccBurgundavia: no02:08
Burgundaviaok02:08
Burgundaviacc, is there movement of getting OO gettextized?02:09
ccBurgundavia: nope; proposed spec, people see codebase, they run02:09
ccfar, far away02:09
Burgundaviaok02:09
BurgundaviaI have never looked at OO code, but I understand it is a little hairy to dive into02:10
Burgundaviaok, I have to go02:17
mdkebye matey02:17
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jsgotangcohypatia, you there?06:12
hypatiayeah, mostly06:13
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jsgotangcook theres a PackagingSystemDocumentation BOF and I am in second fyi06:13
jsgotangcoits low priority anyway06:14
hypatiaRight.06:17
hypatiaWhen I said "yeah" I meant I'm on IRC.06:17
hypatiaI'm not physically there until Saturday.06:17
jsgotangcoyeah im aware of that tee hee06:21
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Burgundaviasalut06:43
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froudAfrican Greetings07:41
d3vic3O.o 07:42
d3vic3Ah, you south african 07:43
froudd3vic3: yep07:43
d3vic3the right word would be "molweni" (same language as "ubuntu") 07:43
d3vic3:-D07:43
froudand by your domain you are in au07:43
froudwelcome to Ubuntu-doc07:44
froudcome to join us write docs07:44
d3vic3I'm in au but I'm from za 07:45
d3vic3I'm attending UDU07:45
froudsanbonani07:45
froudHowzit going fo ryou at UDU?07:45
froudvic in the nick mean you from Victoria07:46
froudor is it part of your name07:47
d3vic3lol 07:48
d3vic3device <-- that my nick 07:49
froudAh ha07:49
froudsorry 07:30 is not the best time for this type of thinking07:49
d3vic3udu is going well, I think, everyone is busy with specs 07:50
froudSo d3vic3 you going to some bofs07:50
d3vic3was in one just now 07:50
froudwhich one?07:50
froudHmmm this is gonna be a slow chat :-)07:51
d3vic3JavaRoadMap 07:52
froudmorn Burgundavia cc hypatia jiyuu0 Kinnison mdke 07:52
ccyes, froud ?07:52
froudOoooh another java lover, nice07:52
froudcc: just saying morning07:52
d3vic3lo 07:52
ccoh, hi07:52
froudyep we need more acceptance of java07:53
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hypatiamorning froud.07:53
hypatiagood afternoon, UDU.07:53
froudso d3vic3 I guess you are on ubuntu-doc because you are gonna help us write documents, right ;-)07:54
froudhypatia: hows UDU for you today07:54
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froudjsgotangco: hello dude07:54
froudjsgotangco: long time no speak07:54
jsgotangcohey froud how have you been07:55
jsgotangcoyes07:55
d3vic3I might, dunno how much work Im actually in for after UDU 07:55
froudHow was the documentation packaging bof07:55
froudd3vic3: why is that?07:55
jsgotangcowell we had to move it on saturday along with Intro Developer Docs07:55
jsgotangcoits so specific07:55
froudjsgotangco: yeah intro developer docs need to come to docteam07:55
d3vic3that on for saturday, iirc 07:56
jsgotangcofroud, yeah we figured that out...well im doing Dial Up BOF later07:56
jsgotangcothe new stuff in svn will come in handy07:56
froudyep, I saw07:56
froudyes, nice doc07:56
froudneeds a bit of work but it is a greatstart07:57
jsgotangcoit relates well to laptop hardware support as well07:57
froudyep07:57
jsgotangcoso far good coverage07:57
froudjsgotangco: we have good news07:58
jsgotangcooh yeah?07:58
froudjsgotangco: jiyuu0 is coming around to work insvn07:58
jsgotangcowhoa07:58
jsgotangcothat is good news07:58
froudand jjesse is gonna get a commiter account07:58
d3vic3sweet07:58
froudhopefully jeff will to07:58
jsgotangcodid you ask james for the commit access?07:59
froudd3vic3: now we need three patches of significance from you and we can get you an account too07:59
froudjsgotangco: not yet, it was late07:59
froudbut  they will mail enrico07:59
froudjsgotangco: is enrico down there?07:59
froudI keep missinghime08:00
d3vic3froud, I see 08:00
jsgotangcono i would have seen him if he was here i guess08:00
froudjsgotangco: yeah, did you catch hypatia 08:00
jsgotangcoyeah i did she's nice08:01
hypatialast I heard of enrico was jdub telling me he has a new job and is busy.08:01
jsgotangcosuch a tall lady too08:01
froudyeah he is work at ARPA08:01
froudjsgotangco: aw that's just because you are so short08:01
froud:-)08:01
hypatiajsgotangco: I was really tired last night. Hope to be more alive on Saturday.08:01
hypatiafroud: To me, the world is short.08:01
jsgotangcodoh..what do you expect...im asian 6" asians are a rarity08:02
froudhmmm, froud likes em tall :-)08:02
froudjsgotangco: lol08:02
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jsgotangco6' sorry08:02
hypatiaKinnison: either works.08:02
froudhey the gay Englishman speaks08:02
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jsgotangcohaha08:02
Kinnisonfroud: Nice to know that my gender preference is my most memorable trait08:03
Kinnison:-)08:03
froudKinnison: you still in denial about doing docs08:03
froudKinnison: we love you08:03
hypatiaKinnison: to me your most memorable trait is your lj username.08:03
hypatiaThere's something about the fish...08:03
froudKinnison: you are part of the funiture08:03
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froudfish and chips08:04
froudnow where is the vinogar08:04
froudjsgotangco: if you see mako tell him he rocks08:05
froudjsgotangco: he will understand08:05
jsgotangcohe's kinda stoned at the moment at the fridge08:05
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Kinnisonhypatia: But I don't post on LJ these days08:06
froudthat sounds like the right person08:06
hypatiaKinnison: I see you comment in daniels's journal every so often.08:06
hypatiaKinnison: so I still get fish exposure.08:06
KinnisonHeh08:07
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KinnisonI run an ISP called 'Pepperfish'08:07
froudAh ha08:07
Kinnison(why Pepperfish? Well, we're not entirely sure)08:07
froudis it any good08:07
hypatiaI mean "the other daniels" of course.08:07
froudI may be looking for some hosting08:07
froudKinnison: I need a place to test an Apache Tomcat, Cocoon thing called Lenya08:08
KinnisonWell, our customers seem happy :-)08:08
KinnisonOf course, we don't run Apache08:08
Kinnisonwhich would kinda scupper that plan08:08
froudyep but what about Tomcat08:09
KinnisonNup, no Java08:09
KinnisonRefuse to run Java08:09
KinnisonCorporate decision08:09
froudwhy it is very secure08:09
KinnisonJava == huge bloaty pile of shite08:09
Kinnisonresource hungry, doesn't play nicely with other people08:10
Kinnisongenerally a bad idea on a shared hosting platform08:10
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froudKinnison: I am talking dedicated hosting08:10
KinnisonOh, Pepperfish is a shared hosting platform08:10
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froudno way Ubuntu doc lenya could be on a shared system08:11
KinnisonWe're not a colo service08:11
KinnisonBurgundavia: because you suck08:11
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froudBurgundavia: you are crossingover, I think john edwards has been a bit to active08:11
KinnisonBurgundavia: mmmm fishy08:11
BurgundaviaI think I remember now08:11
Burgundaviamy brother wanted me to burn some stuff for his XP migration08:12
Burgundaviaunfortunately that migration was not to Ubuntu08:12
froudanyone taken a look at longhorn08:12
Burgundaviayes08:12
Burgundaviait sucks balls08:12
froudnot sure that databse file sys is a good idea08:12
Burgundaviascroll bars on menus08:12
BurgundaviaI don't think I really need to say more08:12
froudand the new file format ala PDF08:13
froudwhen will microsoft stop08:13
BurgundaviaWinFS is dead08:13
Burgundavianot going to be in Longhorn08:13
jsgotangcoMetro?08:13
froudOh good08:13
Burgundaviaactually, WinFS used to be an idea called Cairo, which was to be part of 9508:14
BurgundaviaMetro is shite and is hopefully dead in the water08:14
froudHows the help sys08:14
froudbubles everywhere08:14
frouda bit to soapy08:14
Burgundaviahaven't played with it that much08:15
Burgundaviatoo many other things to do08:15
froudyeah like built linux :-)08:15
Burgundaviaand write my talk, etc.08:15
froudOh yeah hows that going08:15
jsgotangcofroud, you seem to be free lately08:15
froudjsgotangco:  no just woke up08:16
jsgotangcoahh right08:16
Burgundaviawas good, until I discovered today that my talk is supposed to be 1 1/2 hours, not 1/2 hour08:16
jsgotangcoi keep remembering the time zones08:16
froudgot lots of dealines08:16
jsgotangcoi mean i keep forgetting08:16
froudwell talk for 1/2 and twiddle thumbs for 108:16
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=== Burgundavia is tired, going to bed
froudjsgotangco: got any wings08:17
froudBurgundavia: see ya08:17
Burgundavianight/day all08:17
froudsweet dreams08:17
froudCant believe he is actuallygoing to sleep, he never does that08:17
froudHey dudes I have braille working08:18
froudbut only US braille dialect08:18
froudjeeze can you believe there are different dialects of braille08:18
froudUK braille is not the same as US08:18
frouddunno how FR and DE braille looks08:19
froudso dunno how I am gonna get the loco docs transcribed to braille08:19
froudthink if we put up US braille docs somebody will come along and find a solution for the braille dialects?08:20
=== froud did not know that so many visually impaired people use computers. It's cool.
froudWell meetings this morning. Love you all, c ya08:21
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jsgotangcohmmm08:25
jsgotangcothat's something to consider08:26
jsgotangcoim going to the the other bof08:26
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jsgotangcohmmmm02:27
jiyuu0finished the ubuntuguide.org add-on cd02:29
jiyuu0now waiting for people who can host it02:30
jsgotangcowow its now a CD02:37
jiyuu0yub :)02:38
mdkehi dudes02:38
jiyuu0my prob here is i can't host at my server02:38
jiyuu0the bandwidth can't take it02:38
jiyuu0ubuntu-5.04-add-on-2005-04-28.iso (332.1MB)02:39
jiyuu0ubuntu-5.04-add-on-2005-04-28.iso.md5 (68 bytes)02:39
mdkewhat's on the cd?02:39
jiyuu0everything that is mentioned in ubuntuguide.org02:40
jiyuu0http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3014702:40
jiyuu0http://www.ubuntuguide.org/temp02:40
mdkeam checking it out02:40
jiyuu0i need to get it uploaded to a server02:41
jiyuu0over a 512k broadband02:41
jiyuu0don't know how long going to take02:41
mdke*grins*02:41
mdkeabout 3 hours i guess02:41
jiyuu0hope so02:42
jsgotangcoits that big?02:42
jsgotangcoWOW02:42
mdkejuoh actually for 330 megs, probably about an hour and a half02:43
jiyuu0today the're's openoffice update02:43
jiyuu0that's why big02:43
jsgotangcowhoa i didnt know that02:45
jsgotangcojiyuu0, do you reckon the guide will be in svn soon?02:46
jiyuu08th next month i'll start workin on it02:46
jsgotangcorad02:46
jiyuu0i need to settle a few more things with ubuntuguide.org02:46
jsgotangcothere's no rush02:47
jsgotangcoi gotta start doing more stuff soon02:47
jiyuu0cool :)02:48
jsgotangcoah no updates02:48
jsgotangcoduh..im doing 2 more bofs tommorow02:48
mdkehow is it going jsgotangco ?02:48
jsgotangcooh we're just here in the room some guys are playing mao outside02:48
jsgotangcoits almost 11pm here02:49
mdkemao?02:49
jsgotangcowe're having a key signing tommorow02:49
jsgotangcoyeah02:49
jsgotangco*grin*02:49
mdkewhat is mao?02:49
jsgotangcoask Kinnison, he's the Mao master02:49
jsgotangcohttp://www.pagat.com/eights/mao.html02:50
jsgotangcobut dont bother02:50
mdkeoh its cards02:51
mdkei thought it was some weird sport02:51
jsgotangcoi wanna watch rugby02:51
mdke*cough* cricket *cough*02:51
jsgotangcobahhh rugby man...like wwe and boxing combined02:52
mdkerugby is a decent sport02:52
mdkebut its not an art like cricket :)02:52
jsgotangcoi dont understand cricket either02:52
jsgotangcoare you at school?02:52
mdkeno, home02:52
mdkejust had a class in the morning02:52
jsgotangcomdke, you need me to do some stuff relating to rosetta? im not that loaded tommorow02:53
mdkei don't know what is on02:53
mdkeyou didn't see anything about getting the docs in language-packs did you?02:53
jsgotangcoi didnt02:53
jsgotangcowell there's no schedule yet anyway02:54
mdkenp02:54
jsgotangcoi gotta ask carlos some stuff anyway tommorow02:54
jsgotangcomdke, check this out02:55
jsgotangcohehe02:55
mdkeso is mao better than poker? surely you should be playing poker02:55
jsgotangcohttp://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuNations02:55
jsgotangcoof course mao is better but im no expert im got creamed at mao02:55
jsgotangcocheck out that link hehe02:55
mdkevery interesting02:56
jsgotangcofrom Nauru or the Vatican02:57
jsgotangcoyou reckon we can get the pope to represent02:57
jsgotangcohaha02:57
mdkeits essentially like a ubuntu summer camp?02:57
jsgotangcoi dunno it would probably be like woodstock if mako's going to head it02:57
jsgotangcohehe02:57
mdkei'm just gonna go watch a bit of TV02:58
jsgotangcook im probably going up later02:58
mdkei'll probably be here when you get up02:59
jsgotangcogreat let's check out the schedule by then so i can plan out the day03:00
jsgotangcoi expect mary to be around on saturday though03:00
mdkewhat time do you get up?03:00
jsgotangcohmmm we start here around 9am sydney time03:00
mdkethat is utf +8?03:01
jsgotangcolet me check that on UTC03:01
mdke*laughs*03:01
mdkeutf03:01
mdkemy god03:01
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jsgotangcowat03:02
jsgotangcoi didnt get that03:02
mdkeBe BaCk LaTeR03:03
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jiyuu0any good bittorent tracker server?04:49
jiyuu0nver done it b404:51
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jiyuu0i've burst my bandwidth quota09:16
Burgundaviaoops09:22
jiyuu0the whole site went down09:23
jiyuu0now i've to disable all of it first09:23
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mkdedoes anyone know if the releasenotes doc is on the website?10:00
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