[12:39] <mdke> mornin
[12:39] <Burgundavia> salut
[12:39] <Burgundavia> does mkde == mdke ?
[12:39] <mdke> yes
[12:40] <Burgundavia> ok
[12:40] <Burgundavia> why don't you use mdke_ and mdkev ?
[12:40] <mdke> froud used it once during our kde skirmishing so I adoped it
[12:41] <Burgundavia> ah
[12:41] <Burgundavia> "kde skirmishing?"
[12:41] <Burgundavia> oh, inkscape is fun
[12:41] <mdke> we were bitching about kubuntu
[12:41] <mdke> in a tongue in cheek way
[12:42] <Burgundavia> http://img104.echo.cx/img104/2579/madlittleship7jt.png
[12:42] <Burgundavia> inkscape is fun
[12:42] <mdke> i can't believe it, gnome 2.10 has been out for ages now, and gentoo upgrades to 2.8.3 now
[12:42] <mdke> grumble
[12:43] <Burgundavia> gentoo is for ricers
[12:43] <Burgundavia> even worse that kde
[12:43] <mdke> oooh that hurt
[12:43] <mdke> what is a ricer?
[12:43] <Burgundavia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricer
[12:44] <mdke> *grins*
[12:44] <mdke> See also
[12:44] <mdke>     * Boy racer
[12:44] <mdke>     * Crotch rocket
[12:44] <mdke> thats not true
[12:44] <Burgundavia> term that came about because of the number of Korean/Japanese/HK kids with lots of money and little sense
[12:44] <mdke> i love gentoo
[12:44] <Burgundavia> so they put it cars
[12:44] <Burgundavia> and soup them up
[12:44] <mdke> yeah we have em here in the uk too
[12:44] <Burgundavia> over-optimize
[12:44] <mdke> except its not only people with little money
[12:44] <mdke> s/little/lots of
[12:44] <Burgundavia> try and get the last few hp out of there cars
[12:44] <mdke> *grins*
[12:45] <mdke> that's not why i run gentoo
[12:45] <mdke> its for the girls
[12:45] <Burgundavia> do crazy things like replace the rubber with silicon to make it faster. It also makes the ride much much worse
[12:46] <mdke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townie
[12:46] <mdke> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Chav
[12:46] <mdke> this modern lingo is so hard to keep up with
[12:47] <mdke> i went away for a year, and came home to find the term "chav" taking over
[12:47] <mdke> the uk is so class ridden ;)
[12:51] <mdke> Burgundavia, anyway there is nothing wrong with the ride on gentoo :D
[12:51] <Burgundavia> right
[12:51] <Burgundavia> ignore the bumps, that is becuase we are going so fast
[12:52] <mdke> i don't get bumps
[12:52] <mdke> well, i get some, but i have had some on every linux flavour i've used
[12:52] <Burgundavia> did I mention that I think inkscape is great?
[12:52] <mdke> you might have
[12:52] <mdke> but you should make it clearer
[12:53] <Burgundavia> you saw my 1/2 hours work? image shack
[12:53] <Burgundavia> http://img104.echo.cx/img104/2579/madlittleship7jt.png
[12:53] <mdke> Burgundavia, yes its nice
[12:53] <mdke> lemme find out what inkscape is
[12:54] <Burgundavia> inkscape great little vector art drawing program
[01:01] <mdke> looks pretty sweet, although i don't know the first thing about graphics
[01:02] <Burgundavia> nor did I 
[01:03] <Burgundavia> til I started playing
[01:03] <Burgundavia> salut jsgotangco 
[01:03] <Burgundavia> how is down under?
[01:03] <mdke> y0
[01:04] <jsgotangco> we're just starting
[01:04] <jsgotangco> mostly the day is about drafting
[01:04] <jsgotangco> but we're having a barbecue later
[01:04] <Burgundavia> bastard
[01:04] <jsgotangco> it is after all the friday and tommorow is the last day
[01:13] <mdke> night y'all
[01:14] <jsgotangco> nite
[02:07] <Kinnison> Morning
[02:12] <Burgundavia> morning Kinnison 
[06:43] <jsgotangco> gyaahh i didnt ssavvee
[07:38] <froud> African Greetings
[07:40] <jsgotangco> hi froud
[07:47] <froud> hi jsgotangco 
[07:54] <jsgotangco> brb
[08:10] <jsgotangco> hmmm
[08:10] <jsgotangco> i got lead on MentoringCommunity
[08:10] <jsgotangco> duhhh
[10:24] <jsgotangco> sup
[12:28] <jsgotangco> boo
[12:29] <jsgotangco> Burgundavia, awake?
[12:29] <jsgotangco> froud, hey
[02:55] <jsgotangco> enrico, hi
[02:56] <enrico> Hi jsgotangco !
[02:56] <jsgotangco> enrico, you're not here :(
[02:58] <enrico> I'm here everytime I'm online
[02:58] <enrico> IRC is quite a time killer when one has a full-time job
[02:59] <jsgotangco> true
[02:59] <jsgotangco> no i mean too bad you're not in UDU
[03:00] <enrico> jsgotangco: yes, I know.  I just can't keep up with it
[03:00] <enrico> however, if you have something you need from me, please write me
[03:01] <jsgotangco> of course
[03:01] <enrico> are there cool things happening?
[03:02] <jsgotangco> we just had a 70 man keysigning 2 hours ago
[03:02] <jsgotangco> and some barbecue
[03:02] <enrico> wow!
[03:02] <jsgotangco> generally everyone is now at the bar at the moment some playing mao, some drinking, some like me surfing while having a lager
[03:02] <enrico> aussies are masters of barbecues!!
[03:03] <jsgotangco> aye mate it was great
[03:03] <enrico> have some wine!
[03:03] <enrico> they have really good wine down there
[03:03] <jsgotangco> i already had 4 lagers
[03:03] <jsgotangco> maybe tommorow
[03:03] <enrico> :)
[03:03] <jsgotangco> tommorow is the last day anyway
[03:52] <mvirkkil> Converted some more wiki pages to moin. Only 28 pages in non-MoinMoin format.
[03:53] <mvirkkil> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/pagesByType
[09:03] <enrico> froud: that's a good wish!
[09:04] <froud> :-) preparation for LinuxWorld JHB, got me working hard
[09:06] <Burgundavia> hmm
[09:06] <Burgundavia> finally getting my talk nailed down
[05:39] <mdke> love it when people rename the FrontPage
[05:39] <froud> the wonderful work of wiki ..... grrr
[05:40] <mdke> hi froud :)
[07:17] <Burgundavia> salut jeffsch 
[07:17] <jeffsch> hey man
[07:17] <jeffsch> how did it go at lfnw?
[07:17] <Burgundavia> very very well
[07:18] <Burgundavia> about 50 people, which was over cap. for the room
[07:18] <Burgundavia> I talked for 1/2 hour and then I answered questions for another 45 minutes
[07:19] <Burgundavia> I must have done something right, as they all clapped at the end
[07:19] <jeffsch> great!
[07:19] <jeffsch> did you get any converts?
[07:19] <Burgundavia> I didn't have any cds
[07:20] <Burgundavia> I wasn't responsible for ordering them and the guy who was forgot
[07:21] <jeffsch> I installed kubuntu on the weekend
[07:22] <jeffsch> I have gone back to gnome
[07:22] <jeffsch> kde interface is too busy and cluttered for my tastes
[07:22] <Burgundavia> indeed
[07:23] <jeffsch> but I kept kdm... kde apps work better with kdm than gdm
[07:23] <Burgundavia> we really need one login manager, rather than 3
[07:23] <jeffsch> some of the kde apps are pretty good too
[07:23] <Burgundavia> I like kolf
[07:23] <jeffsch> the help is better 
[07:24] <Burgundavia> yelp generally sucks, no matter the system
[07:24] <Burgundavia> s/yelp/help
[11:28] <Burgundavia> can I get some eyeballs on https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:33] <Burgundavia> ** sudo
[11:33] <[uhelp] > Found 1 matches. Sorted: root. (0.01s)
[11:33] <Burgundavia> ?? sudo
[11:33] <[uhelp] > sudo[x] : No defenition found for word.
[11:34] <lexxan> ?? root
[11:34] <[uhelp] > root: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:34] <Burgundavia> !learn add sudo Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:34] <Burgundavia> ?? sudo
[11:34] <[uhelp] > sudo: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:34] <Burgundavia> there we go
[11:34] <lexxan> only ppl who i put on the bot can add
[11:34] <Burgundavia> this is a very useful bot
[11:34] <Burgundavia> can I get a full listing of what it does?
[11:35] <lexxan> saves a lot of typing and time heh
[11:35] <lexxan> ummm
[11:35] <Burgundavia> yes
[11:35] <lexxan> sec
[11:35] <lexxan> there's !learn ins !learn put and !learn rep
[11:36] <lexxan> i dunno what they do
[11:36] <lexxan> insert i guess
[11:36] <lexxan> !learn ins sudo t
[11:36] <Burgundavia> where did you get the bot from?
[11:36] <lexxan> just an eggdrop running !learn tcl from www.egghelp.org
[11:36] <lexxan> # !learn add word defenition
[11:36] <lexxan> # !learn del word <number|all>
[11:36] <lexxan> # and also !learn <ins|put|rep> <number> <defenition>
[11:37] <lexxan> !learn ins sudo 2 ffff
[11:37] <lexxan> ?? sudo
[11:37] <[uhelp] > sudo: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:37] <lexxan> ?? sudo 2
[11:37] <[uhelp] > Hey lexxan, i've already told #ubuntu-doc about "sudo"... no need to repeat (i think)
[11:37] <lexxan> hm
[11:37] <lexxan> !learn del sudo 2
[11:37] <lexxan> ?? sudo
[11:37] <[uhelp] > sudo: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:37] <lexxan> i dunno.
[11:38] <Burgundavia> ok, I will take a look
[11:38] <Burgundavia> thanks for doing this
[11:47] <Burgundavia> lexxan, the bot is running on your server?
[11:47] <lexxan> ya
[11:47] <lexxan> just on my desktop box
[11:47] <Burgundavia> ok
[11:47] <Burgundavia> cool
[11:47] <lexxan> but i'm gonna try to find a 24/7 server
[11:47] <lexxan> since my sister reboots into windows sometimes
[11:47] <Burgundavia> maybe we can talk canonical to putting on their servers
[11:48] <lexxan> brb
[11:48] <Burgundavia> I will ask about that
[11:48] <lexxan> who is that
[11:48] <Burgundavia> canonical is the company behind ubuntu
[11:51] <lexxan> ah okay
[11:51] <lexxan> that would be sweet
[11:51] <Burgundavia> this might take a bit, but we can probably swing it
[11:51] <lexxan> well whatever.. we can keep it on mine til it's more popular or something
[11:53] <mako> greetings
[11:53] <Burgundavia> salut
[11:53] <Burgundavia> lexxan here is the one running the bot on #ubuntu
[11:54] <Burgundavia> he has very kindly given me access ot the bot
[11:54] <Burgundavia> but it would be nice if this could be moved to a canonical server
[11:54] <Burgundavia> currently, he is running eggbot http://www.egghelp.org/
[11:55] <thegreedyturtle> hey lexxan, is there a contents or ?? help
[11:55] <thegreedyturtle> ?? help
[11:55] <[uhelp] > help[x] : No defenition found for word.
[11:55] <lexxan> No I don't think so
[11:55] <lexxan> pretty much it's just !learn add <keyword> info
[11:55] <lexxan> !learn del keyword
[11:56] <lexxan> ** <string>
[11:56] <[uhelp] > Found 1 matches. Sorted: apt. (0.002s)
[11:56] <lexxan> to search
[11:56] <mako> cool
[11:56] <lexxan> and i can add ppl who want to add / remove stuff
[11:57] <Burgundavia> the advantage to bringing it onto canonical servers is that the doc team can vet the information given out
[11:57] <lexxan> yea
[11:57] <lexxan> you could just manually edit the txt file
[11:57] <lexxan> in a shell
[12:00] <mako> i've asked the admins
[12:01] <Burgundavia> thanks mako