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WeirdAlsudo.12:00
WeirdAlaha12:00
WeirdAlNothing happened.12:00
WeirdAlWhere's a log?12:00
Nafallopatrik, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:00
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nickrudWeirdAl, first, does /etc/init.d/gdm exist?12:00
WeirdAlyes12:01
patrikNafallo, thx verry mucj12:01
patrikmuch12:01
nickrudWeirdAl, startx works12:01
WeirdAlyes12:01
IIIEarsHello - another curious newbie question (grin) Can i tell how long it has been since the last reboot? i forgot - lol12:01
Nafallopatrik, no problem12:01
NafalloIIIEars, uptime12:01
IIIEarsThank You.12:01
_chavoWeirdAl, make sure gdm isn't already running.12:01
IIIEarsreally? - Oops - heh12:01
WeirdAlWell Ubuntu booted up in console.12:02
dcravenIIIEars: uptime12:02
dcravenerr12:02
WeirdAlI'm trying to get it to boot up in GDM again.12:02
dataw0lf|wWeirdAl: type startx, and tell us any errors you get.12:02
Nafallodcraven, :-)12:02
WeirdAlOK, brea with me12:02
WeirdAlbear*12:02
dcravenNafallo: I'm a little slow on the draw.12:02
Chipparni got a problem with my mplayer.. fullscreen doesnt work. if i choose fullscreen the window gets fullscreen but the picture in the window is small. any ideas?12:02
comforteaglewhat mailserver is customary to install on ubuntu/12:02
WeirdAldamn, went off screen.12:02
comforteagle?12:02
dataw0lf|wPostfix comforteagle12:02
WeirdAlI'll do it again with >12:02
NafalloChipparn, -vo xv12:02
comforteaglethanks!12:03
dataw0lf|w(default mail server)12:03
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comforteaglesorry, left for dinner12:03
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WeirdAl:-\ I can't redirect the output of startx, and I can't see the errors.12:03
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WeirdAlooh12:04
dataw0lf|wWeirdAl: not working? try a ps aux | grep X and a ps aux | grep gdm12:04
p0mWhy didn't I name myself after my favourite language :)12:04
NafalloWeirdAl, /var/log/Xorg.log.012:04
nickrudWeirdAl, /var/log/Xorg.0.log has a copy, i believe12:04
ChipparnNafallo: hmm ok.. what do you mean?. is there a option in mplayer?12:04
WeirdAlAh, well :-)12:04
NafalloWeirdAl, oops, what nickrud said ;-)12:04
dataw0lf|wWeirdAl: what do those two commands I told you return?12:05
NafalloChipparn, ahh. you're running gmplayer probably... change your video out from x11 to xv :-).12:05
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WeirdAlOne for each, dataw0lf.12:06
ChipparnNafallo: ahh thanks mate :)12:07
WeirdAlBoth grep12:07
dataw0lf|wWeirdAl: alright, /query me your errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log12:07
WeirdAlThere are no lines with EE in.12:07
NafalloChipparn, np :-)12:07
dataw0lf|werr, do a tail -15 /var/log/Xorg.0.log and paste em to me.12:07
WeirdAlPasting will be hard...12:07
WeirdAlLet me FTP them across12:07
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dataw0lf|wno ftping.12:08
dataw0lf|wpastebin them.12:08
WeirdAlNo, I mean to this PC from that PC12:08
WeirdAlSo I can actually copy.12:08
dataw0lf|wah, I see.12:08
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pythoni was just wondering if anyone on here has used a compiler called mtasc12:09
Nafallohmm12:09
Nafallo/away doing bofh stuff12:09
Nafallooops12:09
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dataw0lf|wpython: for swf files ?12:10
pythonyes data12:10
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raydoggany tools that open .chm files ( windows help files )12:10
Burgundaviaraydogg, xchm12:10
dcravenraydogg: xchm12:10
WeirdAlWarning: font renderer for ".pcf.Z" already registered at priority 012:10
WeirdAlWarning: font renderer for ".pcf.gz" already registered at priority 012:10
WeirdAlWarning: font renderer for ".snf" already registered at priority 012:10
WeirdAlWarning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 012:10
WeirdAlWarning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 012:10
WeirdAlWarning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 012:10
WeirdAlWarning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 012:10
WeirdAlWarning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 012:10
dcravenOh my.12:10
dataw0lf|wwhoa, whoa, in priv dude.12:10
WeirdAlWarning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 012:10
WeirdAlCould not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!12:10
WeirdAl(WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)12:10
WeirdAl(II) Configured Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded12:10
BurgundaviaWeirdAl, please don't flood12:10
WeirdAl(II) fglrx(0): [drm]  removed 1 reserved context for kernel12:10
WeirdAl(II) fglrx(0): [drm]  unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xe0baa000 at 0xb7db500012:10
WeirdAlsorry12:10
patriki have download unrar from synaptic but it doesnt work12:10
hybrid_goth#flood12:10
WeirdAlThat was meant to go to datawolf12:10
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WeirdAlI don't know why it didn't. :-\12:11
pythondo you use mtasc data12:11
InitMasswhich packages have to be installed to get fluxbox dev version to work with imlib2 and xpm?12:11
Nafallopatrik, I told you to download unrar-nonfree, not unrar :-).12:11
p0mfglrx doesn't sound happy.12:11
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enplopatrik: download rar, and use rar x (file) to extract a rar file12:11
Nafalloenplo, won't work with pre-3.0 :-)12:12
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Nafalloenplo, s/pre/post/ even12:12
EvilAldamnation12:12
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InitMassbob2, which packages have to be installed to get fluxbox dev version to work with imlib2 and xpm?12:12
patrikbut unrar non-free what does that means ? i cant find it in synaptic.12:12
enploNafallo: oh ok. actually i didn't know about unrar-nonfree :)12:12
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dcravenpatrik: it's in multiverse.12:12
Nafallopatrik, have you added the multiverse repo and reloaded?12:13
patrikokej12:13
jbm__can someone tell me if the default ubuntu install creates root password as random jibberish OR is root login explicitly disabled somehow?12:13
patrikok12:13
Fator_Deewhat would be a good program to record video from my computer tv-card?12:13
patrikbrb12:13
EvilAlany good, wolf?12:13
Nafallojbm__, blank password and disabled.12:13
jbm__Nafallo thx12:14
dcravenjbm__: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:14
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p0mYou could have just said it uses sudo :)12:14
p0mTbh, I think sudo -s should be disabled.12:15
hybrid_gothp0m: yes but the wiki gives more detail12:15
p0mAs soon as people start using it regularily there's more chance for catastrophe.12:15
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dcravenp0m: Some people want more info and appreciate a decently URL for which to get it. Prevents them from needing to ask a million related questions.12:15
Nafallop0m, are you kidding me? try echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward without it! ;-)12:15
nickrudp0m, I need sudo -s to edit /etc/shorewall12:15
nickrudconviently12:16
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tractorcan RPMs be easily installed?12:16
raydoggwhat is the -s option for ?12:16
p0mdcraven: Good point.12:16
Nafalloraydogg, shell :-)12:16
p0mOk then, I retract my statement.12:16
Burgundaviatractor, you need to alien them12:16
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raydoggI see12:16
p0mI haven't had a use for sudo -s yet.12:16
tractoryou see, I'm at https://jsecom15a.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet/LegalPage:~:com.sun.sunit.sdlc.content.LegalWebPageInfo;jsessionid=75DE57663A170F81F7FD3AA40C993121;jsessionid=75DE57663A170F81F7FD3AA40C99312112:17
hybrid_gothp0m: what does the -s do?12:17
Nafallop0m, I avoid it if possible :-)12:17
tractorwhich one do I download? the RPM or the other...12:17
nickrudhybrid_goth, give's you a root shell12:17
hybrid_gothtractor: deb is best12:17
hybrid_gothnickrud: oic ty12:17
hybrid_gothtractor: but anything can be aliened to a deb12:17
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shido6grr12:18
nickrudtractor, you're trying to get java?12:18
shido6ok12:18
tractoraliened?12:18
nickrud?? java12:18
shido6esd is fired up, working great - but OpenAL doesnt work now12:18
[uhelp] java: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java -OR- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats. You may also use apt-get to install 'java-package' which will take a linux binary copy of JRE from http://java.sun.com and create a debian package (make-jpkg).12:18
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tractornickrud, yeah? I guess I should use synaptic12:18
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nickrudtractor, the java wiki, method three is good12:18
tractoralright.. I'll try it12:18
tractorthanks12:19
tractorbut what is aliening?12:19
nickrudtractor, a means to convert rpms to debs as a very last resort :)12:19
hybrid_gothalean is a command that makes say a deb into a rpm or vise versa12:19
tractorahh nice12:19
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Xenguyalien12:20
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Xenguyand yes, last resort only IMHO12:20
hybrid_gothtractor: it is not the best way to go i rather compile then alien12:21
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hybrid_gothnickrud: why not12:21
lotusleafwhen does the next batch of Ubuntu CDs ship?12:21
Burgundavialotusleaf, when it does. They will contact you12:22
lotusleafBurgundavia: k thx ;)12:22
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nickrudhybrid_goth, I hate random files on my machine, have been warned that checkinstall is not all that, and am not going to learn dh_make or cdbs12:22
nickrudbesides being lazy12:22
InitMassthis is the error message i got when trying to make fluxbox from source: this is my error message http://phpfi.com/6013112:23
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jbm__anyone here running breezy? im curious if its ready for nubs to screw with.12:23
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dcravennickrud: there's always "make uninstall" ;P12:23
dcravenjbm__: No I don't think it's quite there yet.12:23
ograjbm__, nope12:23
nickruddcraven, I've been burned a few times, and can't read make ;-P12:23
InitMassi installed libimlib2-dev and libimlib2 but i still get this this is my error message http://phpfi.com/6013112:23
shido6how do you get OpenAL working with Esd?12:23
revelaterhey, i think i don't have DRI active in opengl, how doi activate?12:23
hybrid_gothnickrud: people have told me that if you compile it optimizes it for your system12:23
lotusleafnickrud: when you say "have been warned that checkinstall is not all that" what do you mean? Have you noticed something specific?12:23
Burgundaviahybrid_goth, iffy12:24
hybrid_gothnickrud: and being on ppc i need all i can get12:24
tractorin gnome, when windows open, the part of the window that shows up in the task bar is expanded to the size of the window title.. how can I make them all of the same size?12:24
dcravenhybrid_goth: what Gentoo user told you that?12:24
hybrid_gothdcraven: roflol12:24
nickrudlotusleaf, I've never been burned personally, but people who more than I warned me away (it may have something to do with their opinion of my compiling skills)12:24
InitMassdcraven, you haven't any idea have you?12:24
hybrid_gothit was b4 i really tried linux it was in #debian or #mandrake12:24
lotusleafnickrud: so noted, thanks. :)12:25
EvilAlDammit, now it won't even open windows.12:25
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revelaterhey, i think i don't have DRI active in opengl, how do i activate?12:25
EvilAlIt just sits there for ages not doing anything.12:25
dcravenInitMass: What's that supposed to mean?12:25
cuscoplease... Im having GRUB errors 17/1812:25
dcravenInitMass: I was gonna suggest you install libxpm-dev to fix your compile problem, but now I'm not gonna.12:26
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cuscoafter the installing the system12:26
cuscoand not fully installed yet, just when it finishes with the cd12:26
cuscowhy?12:26
InitMassdcraven, thank you ;) i'll try that12:26
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dcravenDoh!12:26
cuscodataw0lf|w: I made those partitions but grub gives error 17 or 1812:27
MightyFi start totem and i get the error "Totem could not startup.  Resource busy or not available."  Whats going on?12:27
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raydogganyone know why vmware can't open my sound device in ubuntu?12:28
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Burgundaviaraydogg, try killing esd12:29
Burgundaviaraydogg, it may be directly trying to access the sound device at /dev/dsp12:30
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shido6totem wont play sound12:30
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Burgundaviashido6, any sound? give you any errors?12:30
MightyFBurgundavia, could you help me troubleshoot totem?12:30
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BurgundaviaMightyF, can try12:31
mdkeBurgundavia, :p12:31
MightyFraydogg, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems12:31
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MightyFraydogg, the last one, the first link, allows you to use esd and allow access to /dev/dsp12:32
dcravenshido6: Does this happen with all movies or just mov by chance?12:32
handsomerobcould someone help me with ubuntu warty it won't start gnome and i just installed it a minute ago12:32
serenaqualche italiano?12:32
MightyFBurgundavia, I try to run it and it says it can't open because the resource is busy or unavailable.  But I have no idea what resource12:32
Burgundaviaserena, #ubuntu-it12:32
shido6um12:32
InitMassdcraven, thank you again for the help. we have been working with this for hours12:32
shido6I love ubuntu12:32
hybrid_gothsynaptic is moving so *slooooooow*12:32
serena#ubuntu-it12:32
maddlerserena... /hoin #ubuntu-it12:33
maddlerserena... /join #ubuntu-it12:33
hybrid_gothsernea /join ubuntu-it12:33
maddlerpardon12:33
mdke*laughs*12:33
maddlermdke... :)12:33
serenaehm..thanks...12:33
maddlerserena... u are welcome...12:33
mdkeserena, e' pieno cosi di italiani come vedi12:33
dcravenInitMass: Not a problem.12:33
serenaa ecco!^^12:33
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serenache bello..mi sento un po' meglio12:34
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BilyHi there... is there someone that can help me wint x-chat version 2.4.1?12:35
zxc_hmm, all the options on gparted are greyed :/...any ideas?12:35
dcravenshido6: Let's keep it in the channel. There are lots of people in here that maybe can help you.12:35
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mdkebillytwowilly, shoot12:36
MightyFzxc_, are you root?12:36
hybrid_gothhow can i make a partition for another distro with out delete this current one? prefferably a gui to do it b/c i dont get parted12:36
mdkedamn12:36
handsomerobcould someone welp with a screen issue12:36
mdkeBily, shoot12:36
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MightyFzxc_, or are you running it as root?12:36
billytwowillymdke: huh?12:36
zxc_MightyF...umm, pretty much a linux n00b, I use sudo usally. Do II login as root?12:36
Bilymdke : Since I don't know when... all my dcc connection appear in the current channel... like notice12:36
mdkebillytwowilly, sorry, wrong nick12:36
zxc_not sure how to use root when just clicking and opening12:36
billytwowillyhilarious, I JUST sat down at the comp after being away for a long time;)12:37
billytwowillymdke: no problem, cheers.12:37
BurgundaviaZxC, did it ask you for a password when you started it?12:37
MightyFzxc_, sudo gparted12:37
zxc_ah k cool, done12:37
zxc_thanks12:37
MightyFnp12:37
zxc_wait12:37
zxc_or not12:37
zxc_:/12:37
mdkeBily, yes that is true12:37
zxc_I sudo gparted12:37
zxc_still greyed out12:37
MightyFBurgundavia, any idea with totem?  I couldn't figure out what resource its looking for thats busy12:38
mdkeBily, i can't find the option to change that12:38
handsomerobhi i have no gui after boot can some one help it says something about xserver12:38
Bilymdke : how can I put it back in a new tab?12:38
MightyFzxc_, thats the limit of my knowledge, sorry.12:38
hybrid_gothhandsomerob: startx12:38
zxc_MightyF, thanks anyway :)12:38
BurgundaviaMightyF, didn't you try and switch away from esd?12:38
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handsomerobhybrid_goth what should i do after that?12:38
mdkeBily, maybe in the Tab section of preferences, Open utilities in Tabs? not sure tho12:38
Bilymdke : Okay... I've check everywhere ... no idea where the config could be.... anybody know where I can find that?12:39
MightyFBurgundavia, no, but I tried disabling sound on the command line12:39
zxc_any idea how to use gparted?12:39
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zxc_I have 35gb unallocated12:39
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zxc_but I can't add it to the linux partition12:39
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MightyFzxc_, sure you can run it on a hard drive you have mounted?12:39
hybrid_gothhandsomerob: that should start x for you12:39
BurgundaviaMightyF, check your sound settings in GNOME12:39
hybrid_gothisnt that all you needed12:39
zxc_MightyF, no idea :/12:40
BurgundaviaMightyF, that is where you set it for esd12:40
handsomerobhybrid_goth: would that also start gnome?12:40
hybrid_gothidk12:40
MightyFzxc_, I think thats the case12:40
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zxc_surely if I unmount "/" ubuntu will crash?12:40
dcravenshido6: The totem you are using, is it totem-xine?12:41
MightyFBurgundavia, Ummm, I can't find where that is, I'll just kill esd12:41
BurgundaviaMightyF, restart esd and make certain that gnome is using esd12:41
BurgundaviaMightyF, system-->admin-->sound12:41
zxc_how do I unmount "/"12:41
dcraven??12:42
BurgundaviaMightyF, sorry, system-->prefs-->multimedia systems selector12:42
[uhelp] ??[x] : Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] 12:42
Quest-Masterzxc_: you have to do that using a LiveCD..12:42
MightyFBurgundavia, esd wasn't running, strage huh?12:42
Bilymdke : nope... still dosen't work.....12:42
BurgundaviaMightyF, it should be12:42
handsomerobhybrid_goth: thanks i'll try that but my problem really is that after it boots and starts the login it just goes blank can any one esle help?12:42
MightyFBurgundavia, ps -A | grep esd12:42
thechitowncubsare there any alternatives to limewire?12:42
MightyFBurgundavia, nothing12:42
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a_monkeyi downloaded an ubuntu powerpc install cd. if i try to start disk utility while the image is mounted, i get an error saying "Error starting Disk Utility background process"12:43
zxc_is there any partition program which will work in ubuntu for resizing ubuntu partition?12:43
BurgundaviaMightyF, restart with esd &12:43
zxc_:/12:43
BurgundaviaZxC, try qtparted, but I suspect greater wierdness in your system12:43
dcraventhechitowncubs: there is gtk-gnutella and gift.12:43
zxc_Burgundavia, greater weirdness?12:43
dcraventhechitowncubs: those are two alternatives btw.12:43
mdkeBily, not sure it can be done12:44
thechitowncubsthanks craven12:44
thechitowncubs=D12:44
Burgundaviazxc_, you should be able to resize that partition12:44
thechitowncubswhich do you prefer?12:44
thechitowncubsand are any of these in the repo's?12:44
dcraventhechitowncubs: I don't do much P2P stuff, but when I do, I use gift.12:44
MightyFBurgundavia, still gives me the error12:44
dcraventhechitowncubs: both.12:44
thechitowncubsalright, cool12:44
thechitowncubsthanks a lot12:45
Bilymdke : it was working before... I don't know what I done to broke it... but I'm sure it was working... so dumb I am!12:45
dcraventhechitowncubs: gift can do gnutella, fasttrack (kazaa), and openft.12:45
mdkeBily, its always been like that here12:45
zxc_nope, still won't let me resize "/" in qtparted, burgundavia12:45
p0mthechitowncubs: Nicotine is pretty damn good too.12:45
BurgundaviaMightyF, did you confirm that you have the esd selected in the multimedia systems selector?12:46
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MightyFBurgundavia, indeed I did12:46
Bilymdke : really??? humm... maybe I mix thing with windows....12:46
Burgundaviazxc_, I would try a knoppix cd12:46
Burgundaviazxc_, that will allow you to do it12:46
BurgundaviaMightyF, hmm, I have no idea12:46
zxc_ergh, k12:46
MightyFBurgundavia, ok, I'm gonna try a reboot, I've been messing with the system for a while now12:46
mdkeBily, i've asked a friend, he doesn't know either. He says that he uses kde's window controller to prevent it from stealing focus, but i don't know what else you could do12:47
handsomerobcan anyone give me some warty help?12:47
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RochaHello12:47
RochaI need to authenticate users with ldap12:47
thechitowncubsso many choices :)12:47
RochaIs there any gui program in ubuntu to configure that?12:47
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RochaAll my college is running winxp and mandrake12:48
mdkehandsomerob, just go ahead with the question and hopefully someone will answer12:48
mdkeespecially with a nick like that12:48
RochaI want to install ubuntu in all the machines.12:48
zxc_No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.Error: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!  You should e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean filesystem could cause severe corruption.12:48
Bilymdke : Okay.... thanks for your help... I least I will not waste my time on that non existent problem :)12:48
zxc_maybe that's a problem Burgundavia?12:48
handsomerobok i just need help right before gnome is supposed to start it hangs forever12:48
Burgundaviazxc_, you were trying to change an ext3 partition, right?12:49
mdkeBily, its really annoying tho, maybe worth filing a bug if it doesn't already exist12:49
zxc_yeah, I have unallocated space already so I don't need to mess with ntfs12:49
Bilymdke : It was working on previous release?12:49
a_monkeyif i try to open the .iso with disk utility before it's mounted, i get a "Disk Utility internal error"12:50
a_monkeycan somebody please help?12:50
mdkeBily, you could try this: prefs/interface/tabs focus new tabs/never12:50
zxc_yeah, I have unallocated space already so I don't need to mess with ntfs. I'm trying to resize my ext3 burgundavia12:50
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Burgundaviazxc_, I don't know if you can resize a mounted partition12:51
zxc_any way to scandisk it for errors?12:51
zxc_as thats what Partition magic said was wrong with it12:52
dcravenzxc_: If you don't need the space for / then you could always just mount it and add it to your home dir.. Fill it up with data. Just another option.12:52
dcravena_monkey: what is the disk utility?12:53
a_monkeydcraven: mac os x's "Disk Utility"12:53
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dcravena_monkey: oh.12:54
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zumbihi, i am a debian sid user, is it ok if i use ubuntu hoary mirror in my sources.list ?12:54
a_monkeybreezy is newer than hoary, right?12:54
a_monkeyzumbi: yes12:54
dcravena_monkey:12:54
jordanaua_monkey, yes it the unstable ubuntu version12:55
dcravena_monkey: err.. yes it is.12:55
Bilymdke : it dosen't work ... but forget it... I will live with that :)12:55
RochaAny here knows how to configure an ldap client?12:55
mdkeBily, i'm asking in #xchat12:55
zxc_dcraven, I just made a mistake of choosing 3,000 mb instead of 30,000mb when partitioning. Need to install Mathematica and I've run out of space >_<12:55
a_monkeywell maybe a breezy install cd will work12:55
a_monkeycan anybody link me to one of those?12:55
Bilymdke : okay!12:55
jordanaua_monkey, there isn't one i dont think12:55
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dcravena_monkey: Are you just trying to mount the iso? You could try "mount -o loop whatever.iso /your/mount/point/".12:55
dcravena_monkey: there are no breezy CD's yet.12:56
a_monkeydcraven: nope. if i try to mount the iso *while* disk utility is running, there's a problem12:57
a_monkeydcraven: otherwise, i can mount it perfectly well12:57
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dcravena_monkey: I dunno what disk utility is, so I'll stop with the suggestions.. :)12:57
a_monkeyis there any other way to burn an iso cd other than disk utility in os x, anybody?12:57
thechitowncubsgtk-gnutella is slick12:58
mdkeBily, it is: settings > preferences > tabs > open utilities in > TAB12:58
thechitowncubsi couldn't get gift to work12:58
mdkeBily, have tested and it works12:58
jordanaua_monkey, what do you burn music cd's with?12:58
Bilymdke : try to dcc chat me12:58
dcraventhechitowncubs: Probably because you didn't do the gift-setup step.12:58
mdkeok12:58
zumbia_monkey, mixing distros won't lead me to a distrobreak ?12:59
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fsapolol i ve umounted the driver but it dont wanna eject O_o01:00
fsapodrive*01:00
Burgundaviazumbi, I wouldn't really recommend it01:00
Burgundaviazumbi, most of what is in Hoary is older than sid01:00
zumbithere is xorg and the package i wanted is kdevelop01:01
thechitowncubsdcraven: ya... i did, but i just didn't bother to actually fill it out, enter,enter,enter :)01:01
fsapothe drive button isnt working :( and the software says: eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument01:01
thechitowncubsim satisfied with GTK-gnutella01:01
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Burgundaviazumbi, why not run hoary?01:01
mpqcan you safely resize a partition?01:01
ARcause hoary is damaging your MBR ;)01:01
ARLOL01:01
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dcraventhechitowncubs: Cool. I've never tried gtk-gnutella. But for future, the first setting in gift-setup is the kicker.01:02
zumbihehe, well, is very much the same think, is it ? i have my system configured, nice try :-D01:02
Prediusnewsflash, gtk-gnutella wins the internet01:02
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mpqis it possible to resize the main partition?01:03
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neighborleeis there a 'easy' way to mount my windows partitions ( was not done out of the box) cause atm I' m not seeing anything beyond editing fstab ???01:03
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Burgundavianeighborlee, nothing currently01:04
dcravenmpq: probably not while you are using it.01:04
neighborleeBurgundavia, ok thank you for verification01:04
mcquaidhello, i just compiled the ubuntu kernel, i've compiled the kernel before with other distros but something i'm not familar with is  initrd.img01:04
mpqthen how do I do it?01:04
thechitowncubsLinux needs more apps like amaroK01:04
mpqhow would I not use it?01:05
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mcquaidwhat is that? normally when i compile i copy over the bzImage and the systemmap01:05
dcravenmpq: with a livecd or something. Knoppix maybe?01:05
thechitowncubsamaroK is amazing01:05
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PrediusamaroK is *the* best music app.01:05
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thechitowncubsPredius: most definetly01:06
g14-afkPredius: Why do you say that?01:06
pakkirijoin01:06
dcravenmcquaid: the initrd is not necessary. If you compile everything that the system needs to boot (ie IDE, filesystem etc) statically instead of as modules, then you are golden.01:06
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thechitowncubsgl4: because its got everything, GREAT music player01:06
PrediusThere's not even a Windows app which can match iy01:06
thechitowncubsi wish gtk was capable of apps like it01:06
g14thechitowncubs: I prefer the newest version of rhythmbox01:06
g14from cvs01:06
thechitowncubsgl4: i haven't seen it01:07
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thechitowncubsrhythmbox hasn't updated in a long time01:07
MightyFesd doesn't load on boot01:07
thechitowncubsgl4: got a screenshot or smoething01:07
mcquaiddcraven, actually i realized half way through that i did compile my fs as a module instead of statically so i would need that01:07
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dcravenmcquaid: yeppers01:07
g14thechitowncubs: No this isn't my dev box01:07
mcquaidso where is that created in the linux src?01:08
Prediusg14, have you tried amaroK?01:08
thechitowncubsgl4: a lot different than the latest stable version?01:08
pakkirihow do I get into #java?01:08
pakkirihow do I get myself identified to join a channel?01:09
thechitowncubsidentify with nickserv01:09
dcravenmcquaid: Under File systems :)01:09
g14Predius: Yes, but it uses qt01:09
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thechitowncubs./msg nickserv identify <pw>01:09
g14Predius: It's ok, but It's not my cup of tea01:09
MightyFcan anyone help me diagnose this issue?  ESD isn't loading on startup and I can't figure out why01:09
thechitowncubs./msg nickserv help (i think)01:09
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thechitowncubsya01:09
thechitowncubsdo ./msg nickserv help01:09
thechitowncubswithout the period01:09
mcquaiddcraven, do you where exactly? i don't see it under /usr/src/linux/fs01:10
dcravenMightyF: Did you clicky the little box in GNOME's sound settings?01:10
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MightyFdcraven, where?01:10
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thechitowncubsgl4: what is different about it since the latest stable01:10
dcravenmcquaid: Woah.. Use a tool like menuconfig.01:10
dcravenMightyF: System, Preferences, Sound I think.01:11
thechitowncubsthe only thing turning me off from rhythmbox is the way it handles large libraries01:11
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thechitowncubstakes forever to add songs, and crahses when i try to add songs01:11
g14thechitowncubs: wow! I can't begin to list everything. Just wait a few months and when they release check it out01:11
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MightyFdcraven, ahhh, haha, oops, thanks01:11
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thechitowncubsgl4: really, now im excited01:11
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thechitowncubsgl4: how does it handle large libraries?01:12
g14thechitowncubs: I have ~20GB of music :)01:12
darmourythmbox seems to be not great for streaming01:12
mcquaidno i don't need menuconfig, i've already used gconfig to set up the kernel01:12
thechitowncubsgl4: so it works good?01:12
g14thechitowncubs: Yeah I like it01:13
dcravenmcquaid: Then you could use gconfig to make the fs compile statically.01:13
thechitowncubscool, can't wait :)01:13
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g14like gnomebaker, rhythmbox is one of those things that gnome NEEDS01:13
mcquaidyes, i could, but i thought if it was just a matter of copying over a file to /boot instead of recompiling01:13
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thechitowncubsgl4: very true, the next gnome release will be full of goodies =D01:14
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g14thechitowncubs, And distros like ubuntu just make it better :)01:14
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thechitowncubsI know, its great how every ubuntu release is synced up with gnome01:16
thechitowncubs:)01:16
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Bachus9000Is there a way to prevent xcompmgr from drawing shadows around a specific window?  the -C option isn't working on the GNOME panel and it's getting annoying...01:16
dcravenmcquaid: I'm afraid that's a mandatory recompile.01:17
pepperpotWhen I left home this morning my computer was on. When I came back, it was off. I'm trying to figure out what happened, i.e. memory leak, power outage, etc. I tried looking at /var/messages and apparently the last thing that was recorded was around 14:00. What other logs should I ceck?01:18
dcravenmcquaid: no need to recompile the whole kernel though.. make will just do what's needed.01:18
eruinanyone got pinstripe icons ?01:18
mcquaiddcraven, yeah already restarted, i guess i'm curious if one does not compile fs statically, where does one get this initrd.img01:18
dcravenpepperpot: syslog?01:19
dcravenmcquaid: mkinitrd01:19
p0meruin: I do know a bloke that was making a striped gtk theme, but he's not around right now, sorry.01:19
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dcravenmcquaid: "man mkinitrd" I meant.01:19
mcquaidok thx i'll look into that another time01:20
pepperpotdcraven, mostly fetchmail statements01:20
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pepperpotwould an out-of-memory error leave behind any telltale signs?01:20
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pepperpothow can i tell if it was software vs. hardware that caused the shutdown?01:20
Bachus9000Also, I have both of the default GNOME panels at the top of the screen.  When I first moved the taskbar to the top it appeared where I wanted--below the Applications/Places/System menu.  Every time I've logged in after that the placement has been reversed.  Can I change this behavior?01:20
eruinp0m: I'm thinking icons, not gtk though.. I'm happy with my custom clearlooks theme ;)01:21
p0mClearlooks is pretty damn nice.01:21
eruinyeah01:21
p0mI like my clearlooks-industrial :)01:21
Bachus9000Especially with the bluecurve colors. :)01:21
thechitowncubshehe01:21
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p0mClearlooks-industrial + Sloth or Milk = win.01:22
mcquaiddcraven, last question, i'm new to grub, normally use lilo, once i've updated menu.1st does grub need to update the mbr like lilo?01:22
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dcravenmcquaid: No. It'll just read that file on boot.01:23
g14mcquaid: No, one of grubs best features is that it can read the filesystems01:23
mcquaidcool, thx01:23
thechitowncubswhere did you guys get the bluecurve clearlooks?01:23
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mcquaidya i like that makes sense01:23
mcquaidi found it weird when i first used lilo that it couldn't just read the file01:23
dcravenI didn't know you needed to do that with lilo.. eww01:23
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mcquaidya i hear ya. ok rebooting seeing if kern worked bbl thx again01:24
p0mthechitowncubs: I think it's on gnome-look.org01:24
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g14A clearlooks package is available through Synaptic01:24
g14Thats how I installed it01:24
g14You might have to enable the multiverse repository01:25
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lexxan?? repository01:25
[uhelp] repository: To add repositories such as multiverse or marillat please see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#repositories -OR- you can use synaptic package manager - Settings --> Repositories --> Remove all --> Readd with the + Add button (note: this method does not enable the marillat repositories)01:25
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brian_hey just got upgraded from warty to hoary anything i need to make sure my upgrade is clean and smooth?01:29
Marble2what can I use at command line to extract and repackage .jar files01:29
dcravenbrian_: just do your "apt-get dist-upgrade" and you're done.01:30
brian_yea i did that, just wanna know of i need any specific metapackages01:30
brian_pther than ubuntu-desktop01:30
Burgundavia?? mp301:31
[uhelp] mp3: To setup mp3 playback, see http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:31
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dcravenMarble2: fastjar?01:31
brian_^^ that a bot?01:31
p0mMp3 playback works out of the box on warty.01:31
dcravenbrian_: yes.01:31
p0mAt least, from what I've seen.01:32
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seth_slackwarehey01:32
ignashow is libgd package called ?01:32
seth_slackwareWhat is that gnome print tool called again?01:32
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Vjazp0m: Hm... I think you do need to install the mad plugin for gstreamer.01:32
brian_how do you edit menus, my shortcut for it won't work01:32
jordanauBurgundavia, is ?? a bot ?01:32
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brian_?? gnome01:33
[uhelp] gnome[x] : No defenition found for word.01:33
brian_didnt work for me01:33
brian_ohhhhh01:33
jordanau?? mount01:33
[uhelp] mount[x] : No defenition found for word.01:33
brian_?? god01:33
[uhelp] god[x] : No defenition found for word.01:33
Vjazp0m: What did you play MP3's with in warty?01:33
jordanaubrian_, so he doesn't exist01:33
dcravenbrian_: it's a new bot :)01:33
brian_lol01:33
p0mVjaz: Rythmbox.01:34
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jordanaudcraven, is it okay if we play with him? :)01:34
Burgundaviajordanau, just testing it right now, but you can query it01:34
dcravenseth_slackware: gnome-cups-manager?01:34
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jordanau?? ntfs01:34
[uhelp] ntfs[x] : No defenition found for word.01:34
Burgundaviajordanau, currently being tested by the doc team and lexxan01:34
hybrid_gothBurgundavia: whats the bots name01:34
jordanauhe needs an ntfs definition01:34
dcravenjordanau: I suppose. Just play nicely.01:34
seth_slackwareesting it right now, but you can query it01:34
seth_slackwaredcraven seth_slackware: gnome-cups-manageryah01:34
seth_slackwareerr01:34
seth_slackwareyah01:34
lexxan?? mountntfs01:34
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[uhelp] mountntfs: To learn about mounting windows partitions (ntfs, fat) see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows01:35
dcravenjordanau: it's a linux bot.01:35
brian_nvidia settings supposed to show up in menu?01:35
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jordanaudcraven, yes sir Mr. dcraven i will be good :)01:35
Vjazp0m: Ok. I'm pretty sure you need to install the plugin before it works.01:35
dcravenjordanau: do "** query" to search for it.01:35
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dcraven** ntfs01:35
[uhelp] Found 1 matches. Sorted: mountntfs. (0.002s)01:35
jordanaudcraven, i know he is a linux bot, that is just a common question01:36
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dcravenjordanau: What is ntfs is a common question? heh01:36
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dcravenjordanau: Oh you mean the mountntfs one.. I agree.01:36
jordanau** apt01:36
[uhelp] Found 4 matches. Sorted: apt, java, repository, synaptic. (0.002s)01:36
jordanaucool01:36
hybrid_gothi like the #debian bot names01:37
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hybrid_gothdpkg and apt01:37
IIIEarsuhelp - do you know about grub?01:37
brian_?? grub01:37
[uhelp] grub: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto -AND- Grub Boot floppy - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy. If you are simply trying to edit your bootup list, timeout or default OS to boot see /boot/grub/menu.lst01:37
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hybrid_gothnice01:37
dcravenIIIEars: It doesn't actually speak English.01:37
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brian_haha01:37
IIIEarsyeppers  - nice - gives a nice impression to new users :)01:38
jordanau[uhelp] , i have a nasty rash, what is it?01:38
hybrid_goth[uhelp]  : any Java PPC help?01:38
thoreauputicdcraven: neither do a lot of the supposed english speakers in the channel ;)01:38
dcraven...01:38
hybrid_gothjordan: heh01:38
jordanauokay i am done playing01:38
dcraventhoreauputic: hha. true01:38
hybrid_goth[uhelp]  : any Java PPC help?01:39
IIIEarsdcraven - really? - what is it's native tongue?01:39
jordanau** java01:39
[uhelp] Found 2 matches. Sorted: java, restricted. (0.002s)01:39
jordanau??java01:39
jordanau?? java01:39
[uhelp] java: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java -OR- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats. You may also use apt-get to install 'java-package' which will take a linux binary copy of JRE from http://java.sun.com and create a debian package (make-jpkg).01:39
dcravenIIIEars: bot01:39
IIIEarsjava - is likely01:39
jordanauthere ya go hybrid01:39
hybrid_gothlol01:39
hybrid_gothno ppc tho01:39
hybrid_goth:'(01:40
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jordanau** ppc01:40
IIIEarsthat is a huge improvement - a lot of new users get frustrated waiting for an answer to what they know is a simple question01:40
[uhelp] Sorry, no matches for ppc on the defenition database. (0.002s)01:40
thoreauputic?? ppc01:40
[uhelp] ppc[x] : No defenition found for word.01:40
hybrid_goth[uhelp]  ; what is up whith the root account01:40
jordanauhaha01:40
dcraven?? root01:40
[uhelp] root: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:41
thoreauputichybrid_goth: umm... tht approach won't work01:41
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jordanau?? sudo01:41
[uhelp] sudo: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo01:41
hybrid_gothooo01:41
brian_why are my workspace things so wide now?01:41
IIIEarshave you implemented any flood protection for the occasional troll - please say yes.01:41
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DoppleGangerhttp://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/05/msg00000.html01:41
jordanaubrian_, what do you mean by workspace things?01:41
amonkeypoll: what's your favorite (gui) ftp client?01:42
brian_the multiple desktops01:42
dcravenIt's lexxan's bot. Everyone thank him.01:42
paxmastercould some one help me, i really need help setting a printer for linux but the problems is the printer is connect with window01:42
hybrid_gothamonkey: gftp01:42
brian_workspace switcher01:42
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IIIEars<< Impressed01:42
brian_there we go01:42
paxmasteri trying this for weeks but no luck01:42
jordanaubrian_, the actual switcher itself is large?01:42
=== nickrud thanks lexxan
dcravenamonkey: gftp I guess...01:42
brian_the boxes are so wide01:42
brian_can't i adjust them?01:42
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jordanauamonkey, leechftp, i havent tried any in linux yet01:43
IIIEarsuhelp - do you know about kubuntu?01:43
jordanaubrian_, does it say "workspace switcher" in the boxes?01:43
brian_nope01:44
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amonkeyi can't get gftp's ssh2 to work right. or at all. just kinda sits there.01:44
jordanauIIIEars, you can't ask questions that way01:44
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IIIEarsuhoh - what is the best way?01:44
VjazAnyone know if there is any support for Mozilla Sunbird for the Gnome Clock/Calendar Applet?01:44
paxmastercan someone help me01:44
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VjazOr an alternative applet maybe?01:44
hybrid_goth?? kubuntu01:44
[uhelp] kubuntu[x] : No defenition found for word.01:44
jordanaubrian_, i am sorry, i meant the workspace name01:44
g14brian_: right click on them -> Preferences01:44
dcravenbrian_: If they are abnormally large, like they are broken or somehting, a "killall gnome-panel" might fix them. I've had to do that before.01:44
IIIEarsOuch!01:44
hybrid_goth?? xubuntu01:44
[uhelp] xubuntu[x] : No defenition found for word.01:44
hybrid_goth:'(01:45
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amonkey?? hybrid_goth01:45
[uhelp] hybrid_goth[x] : No defenition found for word.01:45
hybrid_gothxubuntu definition : best distro ever.period.01:45
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g14brian_: Then make it say Show workspaces in 2 rows01:45
hybrid_gothlol01:45
Vjazhybrid_goth: What's that?01:45
hybrid_goth?? sex01:45
[uhelp] sex[x] : No defenition found for word.01:45
hybrid_gothoopz01:45
brian_k ill try both01:45
IIIEarspoor lexxan - do a great thing and get nothing but sleep deprived for your efforts. - sympathetic grin01:46
amonkeyof course there would be no definition. this is a linux channel.01:46
dcravenOkay maybe we should let the bot rest before we get carried away.01:46
lexxanhaha01:46
hybrid_gothVjaz: that is the best linux user ever01:46
g14?? hacker01:46
[uhelp] hacker[x] : No defenition found for word.01:46
DanglyBitsnyone know where I can locate mambo for ubuntu?01:46
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DanglyBitsanyone know where I can locate mambo for ubuntu?01:46
hybrid_gothdcraven: :D01:46
Vjazhybrid_goth: Xubuntu?01:46
nickruddefinition is misspelled :)01:47
paxmasteri need help setting up a printer01:47
hybrid_gothVjaz: it is like kubuntu in hoary; it is ubuntu with xfce and it is gain steam01:47
dcravenDanglyBits: www.mamboserver.com01:47
thoreauputicamonkey: apt-cache show sex << there IS a package :)01:47
Vjazhybrid_goth: Is it an actual project, or do you just mean running Ubuntu with XFCE?01:47
brian_dcraven: killall worked01:47
mcquaiddamn i got a kernel panic due to not syncing the VFS with my custom kernel01:47
thoreauputicamonkey: it's an editor01:47
hybrid_gothVjaz: i thot u were askin what hybrid_goth is01:47
brian_they were pretty big now they're arright01:47
Vjazhybrid_goth: Heh, no. :-P01:47
hybrid_gothVjaz: no it is not it is like kubuntu was in warty01:47
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Vjazhybrid_goth: I was addressing you.01:47
dcravenbrian_: cool01:47
ignaswhere can one get libiconv-dev on ubuntu ?01:48
hybrid_gothVjaz: yea i c now01:48
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ignasi can't find any poackages, only some libjconv ...01:48
dcravenmcquaid: Did you get IDE in there statically?01:48
Vjazhybrid_goth: Well Kubuntu was a real project at making all the packages and tying it all together... is there a project website or something for Xubuntu?01:48
mcquaidyep i did reiser statically which this partition is01:49
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Vjazhybrid_goth: Btw, I think a much better name would be UbuntuX. Easier to pronounce and it even has a tux in it!01:49
hybrid_gothVjaz: it is just a underground but there is forum threads in it01:49
spiderwormhey anyone know if they have cedega for 64 bit and if i could run 32 bit windows games on 64 bit ubuntu with it?01:49
amonkeythoreauputic: stand for anynthign?01:49
hybrid_gothyea01:49
mcquaidi copied over my first entry in menu.1st and modified it for the kernel name i used and commented out the initrd line01:49
hybrid_gothVjaz: thnx ill announce that01:49
thoreauputicamonkey: I don't know :)01:49
Vjazhybrid_goth: Ok, thanks.01:49
hybrid_gothnp01:49
Vjazhybrid_goth: Announce? The name?01:49
hybrid_gothyea01:50
VjazHeh, ok.01:50
thoreauputicamonkey: Simple Editor for X01:50
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dcravenmcquaid: Are the disks IDE? If so, then that will need to be compiled statically too. Not *just* the filesystem.01:50
darkaudithybrid_goth: which name?01:50
thoreauputicamonkey: from apt-cache show sex01:50
hybrid_gothdarkaudit: Ubuntux01:50
Vjazhybrid_goth: I partly stole the idea from Lugradio. They were joking about calling "Ubuntu with a K" UbuntuK.01:50
mcquaiddamnit that must be it forgot about that01:50
hybrid_gothx/X/UbuntuX'01:50
mcquaidthx01:50
hybrid_gothVjaz: lol01:51
VjazWhich also sounds cool. It has a tribal vibe to it. :-P01:51
hybrid_gothlol01:51
darkaudit#UbuntuX now active :)01:51
VjazHahaa01:52
alvaro_what's lba01:52
hybrid_gothswet01:52
hybrid_goth**sweet01:52
alvaro_what's lda01:52
alvaro_what's dma01:52
alvaro_ha01:52
dcravenalvaro_: direct memory access01:52
mcquaiddcraven, should IDE statically alone be sufficient?01:52
alvaro_and is activated in ubuntu?01:53
dcravenmcquaid: With the filesystems it might be.. I can't think of others offhand.01:53
Kisainis there anything that can open .rar01:53
jordanauKisain, unrar01:53
dcravenalvaro_: For harddrives I think it is, but for optical drives I think it is not.01:53
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jordanauKisain, it is on the winrar website01:54
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dcravenalvaro_: hdparm will tell you if it is enabled or not, given a device.01:54
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mcquaidi think it should be. recompiling01:54
ignashow to find to what package given file belogs ?01:54
jordanauKisain, it might be in repositories i dont know01:54
Thorrn4hello!! does ubuntu come with PHP support? for making websites and such?01:54
dcravenThorrn4: It's in the repos, of course.01:54
jordanauThorrn4, hello01:55
mcquaidi'd rather avoid all this though, i'm donig it mainly cause i can't keep the nvidia driver installed01:55
Kisainok01:55
Kisainit is in the repositorys01:55
lexxanIIIEars, what do u want lol01:55
dcravenmcquaid: It pops out on you?01:55
mcquaidwell i was getting random lockups with the ubuntu nvidia pkg, then i downloaded an earlier version from nvidia and it won't survive a reboot01:55
dcraventhere's the bot man himself!01:55
joha1hello my dear ubuntu friens is it somebody here how have used festival speech?01:55
mcquaidworks fine for the existing session then X craps out01:55
IIIEarsI really think your bot is cool can i help with it?01:55
Thorrn4hello jordanau! for some reason I do not remember your sn...01:55
thoreauputicignas: dpkg -S  (capital S ) but only for installed packages01:56
alvaro_do you know what is the configre archive for activate dma?01:56
thoreauputicignas: elsae install apt-file01:56
IIIEarsgather links, type something?01:56
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thoreauputic*elase01:56
thoreauputicbah01:56
DanglyBitsdcraven: I went to dowload section and found a tar.gz but how do i load that into ubuntu?01:56
thoreauputicelse01:56
pepperpotWhen I try to view an attachment from Mutt, often firefox complains that it can't find the tmp file. I think it's a timing issue. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I believe that the tmp file gets erased after mutt finishes invoking firefox01:56
jordanauThorrn4, you said hello so i did, i dont know you either ")01:56
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jordanau:)01:56
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jordanauthoreauputic, do you french press?01:56
Thorrn4:D01:57
mcquaidwell i try this cust kernel and see if it solves any issues for me01:57
pepperpotfrench press is gey coffee?01:57
mcquaidbbl01:57
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dcravenDanglyBits: I have no idea what you are talkin' about dude. ;)01:57
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thoreauputicjordanau: too early in the morning... ;)01:57
IIIEarsOkay - :)01:57
Kisaini have a question about tdual booting?01:57
jordanauthoreauputic, too much work?01:57
ignasthoreauputic, thank you very much\01:57
thechitowncubsare there any advantages to use the 686 kernel?01:58
jordanaupepperpot, you can say what you want about my friends and family but dont diss my coffee :D01:58
DanglyBitsdcraven: trying to install mambo..went to mamboserver.com..found dlowload section...mambo file is in tar.gz format..how do i install that into ubuntu?01:58
Kisaini have grub set to do so but it won't01:58
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pepperpotjordanau, i was trying to make a funny by alluding to thoreauputic's typo01:58
jordanaupepperpot, i know01:59
Thorrn4so how are u doing jordanau01:59
amonkeyi can't get sftp to work in gftp, and trying to specify the path to sftp-server makes it think it's logged into a remote comptuer but actually just show my home folder01:59
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pepperpotjordanau, it funneh01:59
dcravenDanglyBits: Did you look here? --> http://tinyurl.com/ck3b202:00
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jordanauThorrn4, well02:00
DanglyBitsdcraven: no..thats what im looking for...thanks02:00
dcravenDanglyBits: no problem.02:01
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Kisainok now how do i use winrar?02:02
karljpyou don't?02:02
Kisainoh02:02
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Kisainweait huh??02:02
Kisainwait802:02
Kisain*02:02
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karljpyou can get rar/unrar from unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files02:03
karljpunrar-nonfree - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)02:03
Kisainum ok02:03
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karljpwhat is your end goal kisain?02:03
Kisainto open and install in cedega a game02:04
Kisainit is a 2 part archive02:04
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karljparrrh, get your warez on!02:04
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thoreauputicKisain: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree02:04
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spiderwormKisain: how well does cedega work on hoary?02:05
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Kisainyes wonderfully02:05
thoreauputicKisain: you need the multiverse repository02:05
ignaswhy ubuntu got libiconv-ruby yet has not libiconv-dev ?02:05
Kisaini have it alredy02:05
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Kisaini have unrar alredy02:06
Kisaininstalled trough syn02:06
amonkeyspiderworm: works fine for me (cedega that is)02:08
amonkeyspiderworm: well enough to run steam and hl2.02:08
spiderwormamonkey: frequent crashes?02:08
Bachus9000Is there a way to create a single panel that has two rows of stuff on it?02:09
spiderwormBachus9000: gnome or kde?02:09
thoreauputicBachus9000: make two and move one02:09
dcraven?? unrar02:09
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[uhelp] unrar: To unrar files, install the "unrar-nonfree" package located in the multiverse Ubuntu repository.02:09
Bachus9000Gnome.  Yes, I did make two and move them, but then they come up in the opposite order I'd like them. :/02:10
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thoreauputicBachus9000: I just did it - drag the 2nd one with middle button02:10
mkdedoes anyone know if there is a way of getting evolution to use a particular mail account as default for specific contacts? it would be much appreciated, thanks!02:10
Kisainso how do i open the files02:11
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Bachus9000Yeah, I know.  It works fine until you log out and log back in.  Then when they load they come up in the wrong order. :)  I want the panel with the Applications menu to appear above the second one (which at the moment just has the task list on it).  GNOME will consistently put the task list above the other panel.02:11
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thoreauputicBachus9000: did you save your session?02:13
Bachus9000It's been a while since I first set it up, but I think I did...Let me try. :)  brb.02:14
DanglyBitswhat repos can i use to ensure hoary is as up-to-date as possible??02:14
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hybrid_gothDanglyBits: up to date as possible period equals breezy02:15
hybrid_gothHoary they will add new packages if and when needed02:15
DanglyBitsbreezy is a little too buggy02:15
dcravenDanglyBits: Backports?02:15
mkdeDanglyBits, you just need the security and hoary-update sources02:15
DanglyBitsyes02:15
DanglyBitsmkde: what lines are added to source.list?02:15
hybrid_gothits sources.list02:16
mkdeDanglyBits, they should be in there already, its just a question of uncommenting them02:16
DanglyBitsmkde: thanks02:16
mkdenp02:16
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mkdeDanglyBits, assuming that by "up to date" you mean secure.02:17
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hybrid_goth?? partition02:17
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Bachus9000Yay, that solved it. :)02:18
thoreauputic:)02:18
hybrid_gothhow can i add a partition to add a distro without deleting the ubuntu one and without parted02:18
thechitowncubsHow do I access a passworded share through nautilus?02:19
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mkdehybrid_goth, what's wrong with parted?02:19
thoreauputichybrid_goth: good luck02:19
hybrid_gothmkde: well i type primary ext3 then i get lost02:19
Burgundaviahybrid_goth, you gparted02:19
Burgundavias/you/use02:19
dcravenhybrid_goth: do you have a free partition? If so, probably your new distro has a tool that can take advantage of it. Like Ubuntu did when you installed it.02:19
hybrid_gothmkde: where do i put start and where do i put end02:19
mkdehybrid_goth, that's up to you :)02:20
mkdehybrid_goth, gparted is nice as Burgundavia says02:20
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hybrid_gothok ill do it and give u the results02:20
mkdehybrid_goth, you'll need a livecd with gparted on it tho02:20
karljpgparted is fairly nice02:20
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Hackmohey all, anyone able to help me with my problems?02:21
karljpno.02:22
x_orCan someone offer me advice on how to use mail properly on my new ubuntu system.  I have postfix installed and accepting mail.  I can use the "mail" program, but I cannot figure out how to use Thunderbird.  Do I need to use fetchmail first or something?02:22
mkdeHackmo, you need to tell us what they are02:22
karljptry telling tbird to look at a local mail store, instead of a remote pop server?02:22
Hackmomkde: sorry, was just making sure someone was awake before I got typing them all out02:23
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tbirdeh02:23
Bachus9000Has anyone else had difficulty with xcompmgr's -C flag?  It doesn't seem to have any effect on the GNOME panel.02:23
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hybrid_gothKackmo: someone is always awake02:23
x_orkarljp:  OK, I thought I tried all possible settings, but I will look again.02:23
mkdeHackmo, the best technique is to ask the question and wait, even if you're on a small channel02:23
x_orI am still confused as to what a movemail account does.02:23
dcravenx_or: I think you'll need fetchmail if you are going to be fetching mail from a remote POP or IMAP server.02:23
mkdeHackmo, eventually someone replies!02:23
x_orPostfix is running on the same machine as my thunderbird client.02:23
karljpdcraven: depends what he wants to do :)02:23
Hackmomkde: When I click on a torrent link on http://snarf-it.org/?snarf=details&id=125312 firefox closes, any idea why?02:23
x_orSo, I don't think it is using POP or IMAP.02:24
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dcravenkarljp: Yeah. I'm making assumptions again.02:24
hybrid_gothHackmo: happened to me too02:24
x_orIt seems to me the "mail" program pulls the files from the local mail spool, and then moves them into my local store.02:24
x_orI am not exactly sure how it all works, honestly.02:24
x_orThis is what I conjecture.02:24
BurgundaviaHackmo, so, cannot replicate02:24
hybrid_gothbrb02:24
mkdeHackmo, works for me02:24
Hackmohybrid_goth: How did you fix it?02:24
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karljpdcraven: normally two things people want to do, run postfix, and be running a real mailserver for their domain, and letting people pop mail off their machine (if they really wnat to do this, they don't normally need much help)02:26
karljpand 2) run fetchmail to pop mail to local, and then run various clients to read mbox locally.02:26
karljpI'm not entirely sure why you really want to do either,02:26
karljpbut some people have their reasons.02:26
x_orI suppose part of the problem is that I cannot for the life of me get IMAP+SSL to work.  The server is up, but my normal user password is not accepted, so I am not sure whether it uses a different password file, or what.  Restarting imapd doesn't help.02:27
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dcravenkarljp: I gotcha.02:28
HackmoI've got another problem aswell, sometimes programs just close by themselvs02:29
hybrid_gothHackmo: havent yet02:29
HackmoI tried starting them in the terminal and I the only error message I get is segmentation fault02:30
Hackmohybrid_goth: oh ok02:30
hybrid_gothif i get anything ill tell you02:30
hybrid_goth;)02:30
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Hackmohybrid_goth: thanks02:30
hybrid_gothnp its all about community juss pass it on :D02:31
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hybrid_gothif i already have a swap partition will i need another for the other distro02:31
dcravenhybrid_goth: no02:32
hybrid_gothi.e. can ubuntu and gentoo share swap02:32
hybrid_gothok02:32
hybrid_gothdcraven: so all i need is space to put gentoo02:32
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dcravenhybrid_goth: yep.. You might even share your /home partition!02:33
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ShadowRagehow do I write an iso file directly to cd using nautilus02:33
ShadowRageright click and burn or what?02:33
thoreauputicShadowRage: yup02:33
ShadowRagebetter be :X02:34
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tremblayNewbie question: How can I tell if glibc is installed on my machine if it's doesn't show up in Synaptic?02:34
dockanea simple question: may i expect immediate rendering/refresh from my system, when there is gnome booted and i am switching betwenn 5 tabs in ff ? (hoary on ibm intellistation, 1x p3 800, 512 MB Rambus, 9,1 SCSI HD. Nvidia Quadro NV10Gl)02:34
thoreauputicShadowRage: works here02:34
hybrid_gothmkde: i did parted /dev/hda/ then primary partition type then ext3 file system then start at 3 end at 27 but it said unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition02:34
asproHello, what packages should i reinstall if my sound is borked02:34
aspro?02:34
thoreauputictremblay: if it wasn't, ubuntu wouldn't run02:34
karljptremblay: cos it's called libc, not glibc02:34
asproAs in, it has stopped working alltogether, worked fine before02:35
tremblayAh... thanks.02:35
karljpwhatever you uninstalled that made it stop working?02:35
hybrid_gothaspro: do you have esd? alsa?02:35
asproim running ubuntu hoary stock02:35
asproesd and alsa i suspect02:35
hybrid_gothhmmm....02:36
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ShadowRagethoreauputic: I have a cyberpower power99 UPS (no serial though, thrift store find) know the serial pinout by anychance?02:36
thoreauputicShadowRage: heh- no idea sorry02:36
asproare they the only pacakages i could try reinstalling, or are there any ubuntu-specific packages in there?02:36
maddleranyone with a Creative Zen (micro)? :)02:36
dcravendockane: That's not really all that simple... I'd say it should be fairly fast. "Immediate" may be pressing your luck though :)02:37
foxinessif some one ask u this Q " What is your favored linux magazine you ever read ?" what should your answer will be than please :) ?02:37
Prediuswhat do you need, maddler?02:37
thoreauputicaspro: try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart02:37
maddlerPredius... was trying to understand what's the best program to manage it :)02:37
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Prediusah, ok.02:38
asprothe problem persists over reboots, but okay :)02:38
thoreauputicaspro: I doubt that your problem has anything to do with which packages are installed02:38
dcravenfoxiness: I haven't found one I like yet.02:38
maddlerPredius... using Gnomad2 right now...02:38
hybrid_gothwhat kind of partition type should i use02:38
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thoreauputicaspro: killall esd is worth a shot too02:38
hybrid_gothprimary logical extened?02:38
asprothoreauputic, I doubt it too, but i was hoping to get whateever ha changed back to how it was after install :)02:38
asproive tried esd02:39
dockanedcraven, my subjective "feeling" is, that it is far to slow for this system, since my thinkpad (p3 800,192 Mb Ram, 8 mb s3) isn't _that slow02:39
foxinessdcraven, please when you find one tell me about it02:39
thoreauputicaspro: consult the logs02:39
dockanedockane, the rest of the system is reacting pretty directly02:39
asprowhich?02:39
foxinessdcraven, what u read than "now" ?02:39
dockanedcraven,02:39
ShadowRagethoreauputic: how do I md5sum the disk?02:40
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dcravenfoxiness: I haven't read much of it, but I do look forward to reading the Free Software Magazine (www.freesoftwaremagazine.com).02:40
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hybrid_gothcould i use the ubuntu disk to add a partition? and just stop after it adds one?02:40
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dcravenfoxiness: I don't really read Linux mags as a habit. Or mags of any kind really.02:40
karljptherea re linux mags02:41
karljp?02:41
foxinessdcraven, aha i will check this now02:41
karljpwhat do they say?02:41
hybrid_gothlol02:41
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hybrid_gothkarljp: google tux magizine02:41
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hybrid_goth/i/a/magazine02:42
foxinessdcraven, if u are not read a magazine than what u do ?02:42
thoreauputickarljp: there are quite a few linux mags02:42
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karljpare they as full of quality journalism as the general pc mags?02:42
thoreauputickarljp: Linux Journal, linux format...02:42
thoreauputickarljp: heh - they are usually better02:42
hybrid_gothtux is a big n00b mag02:42
dcravenfoxiness: hehe.. I hang out in this channel, read academic papers, and write software.02:42
flammyI'm a total newbie, but I am trying to find a package that can synch with a Dell DJ, anybody got any ideas??02:43
thoreauputickarljp: sometimes rather technical02:43
foxinessdcraven, i see :) "Keep the great work up"02:43
p0mStupid O/T question, but HD15 is the same as DVI right?02:43
joha1hello everybody02:43
joha1I can't get festival speech to give me any sound:(02:43
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foxinesskarljp, i think format linux02:44
foxinesskarljp, or linux format :)02:44
dockaneis there anybody inhere with hoary on a p3 system and would like to run bashmark as a favor me (to compare) ?02:44
smalright.. why is my screen suddenly going into blank idle mode every 30 seconds :/02:44
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asprohmm, can you do a reinstall of ubuntu without it killing any data, ro do you think config problems will carry over from a reinstall?02:44
smlook! it did it again!02:44
foxinessthoreauputic, what your favored magazine?02:45
hybrid_gothaspro: yea juss add a new partition delete the partition and you are sol02:45
thoreauputicfoxiness: when I read linux magazines, Linux Format02:45
rcmivwhat is this:02:45
rcmivW: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists02:45
rcmivfrom synaptic02:45
dcravenaspro: I'm not sure you can not lose data *and* overwrite configs at the same time.02:46
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thoreauputicrcmiv: could be a problem on the server02:46
asprodcraven, bummer02:46
foxinessthoreauputic, nice "me too" :)02:46
foxinesstoday i found this http://www.lpmagazine.org/en/modules/news/02:46
rcmivthat's what I figured02:46
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rcmivthanks for confirming02:46
asprocomputer without any sound sucks :(02:46
dcravenaspro: What is it that is messed up? You can typically "dpkg-reconfigre" it to regenerate a config file.02:46
dcravenbiab02:46
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dockanesystemwatch tells me that ff is using 126 MB of ram for 3 (in words: three) opened tabs, is that realistic ?02:47
cyphasehey02:47
asprodcraven, sound is dead02:47
foxinessaspro, sure its "sucks :("02:47
asproworked fine, played a dodgy avi in totem, then... sound dead02:47
thoreauputicdockane: most of that is cache and buffer02:47
joha1somebody how have used festival ? or know a chanel for this subjekt?02:47
SerriaRomeothat live cd rocks, now i just have to figure out how to connect to the internet with it, and i'll be well on my way to replacing windows for good.02:47
cyphasedoes anyone know where mysql stores database info in ubuntu?02:47
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thoreauputicdockane: it uses less than that in real terms02:47
karljpjoha: ahh, you want to use a fairly esoteric package on linux?02:47
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karljpand it didn't work out of the box?02:47
karljpand the docs were no good?02:48
Jet2k5heh I finally learned how to start apps faster with this prelinking :)02:48
karljpahhh, smell the sweet sweet smell of "go to hell newbies, read the source or die"  Isn't linux fun?02:48
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joha1cyphase: have the same quastion02:48
cyphaselol02:48
Cowlike-awaywhat is prelinking? static linking you mean?02:48
usyniccyphase: /etc/mysql/my.cnf will tell you02:48
a_monkeyif i try and burn a powerpc install iso to a cd-r with hdiutil, i get this: "*** malloc[1687] : error for object 0x1808a00: Incorrect checksum for freed object - object was probably modified after being freed; break at szone_error02:49
a_monkeyBus error"02:49
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a_monkeycan anybody help?02:49
cyphasethanx usynic02:49
dockanethoreauputic, i see. have you got any idea how to tune up refreshing the screen i.e. after a task switch or switching tabs in ff ? i take something about a second on my system and my eyes can fallow the screen rebuild from up to down02:49
usyniccyphase: np02:49
hybrid_gothdockane: ff = fx?02:49
thoreauputicdockane: hmm - sounds a bit odd02:49
Jet2k5Cowlike-away: dunno but it's supose to start stuff faster :)02:49
dockanehybrid_goth, Firefox02:49
Jet2k5like firefox and such02:49
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hybrid_gothdockane: ok do you want to manually refresh?02:50
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thoreauputicdockane: is tha machine under load in some other way?02:50
dockanethoreauputic, no nothing02:50
rcmivthis ubuntu is generally quite pleasant.  the 1st linux distro to get both my ethernet and sound on install..impressive02:50
rcmivbut the servers for apt-get seem to be down occasionally02:51
hybrid_gothyea02:51
hybrid_gothweird02:51
ShadowRagethoreauputic: how do I md5sum the disk?02:51
rcmivor else I am doing something wrong -02:51
thoreauputicdockane: and your graphics card is properly configured?02:51
dockanehybrid_goth, what do you mean with "manually refresh" ?02:51
thoreauputicShadowRage: use md5sum <file>02:52
thoreauputicShadowRage: everything is a file in *nix02:52
dockanethoreauputic, nVidia Corporation NV10GL [Quadro]  (rev 10), glxgears works02:52
foxinessif u have time to see somthing see this somthing cool if you have time to see http://desktop.vidalinux.com/index.php?full=1&set_albumName=album04&id=VLOS_1_1_preview1&option=com_gallery&Itemid=32&include=view_photo.php02:52
dockanethoreauputic, tuxracer runs fine too except a few clipping errors02:52
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joha1rcmiv: synaptic is the best in ubuntu !02:53
ShadowRagethoreauputic: md5sum md5sum.txt02:53
ShadowRage2daf318f41313714cd9819dd09129a08  md5sum.txt02:53
hybrid_gothdockane: do you want a script to refresh every so often or do you wanna refresh your self02:53
thoreauputicdockane: I don't know the answer to your issue, sorry02:53
ShadowRagethoreauputic: I wanna make sure I got a proper burn02:53
rcmivjohal: I agree, I was lumping synaptic in with "apt-get"02:53
thoreauputicShadowRage: compare it to the text you downloaded for the CD02:53
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thoreauputicShadowRage: it's usually in the same place you downloaded it02:54
rcmivtrying to do sambe right now, and can't do install.  perhaps my repositories are off02:54
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ShadowRagethoreauputic: I just did that and got the md5sum of the md5sum file.02:54
ShadowRagethoreauputic: how do I compare the md5sum02:54
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thoreauputicShadowRage: you run md5sum on the iso, not the file ....02:55
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rcmivfoxiness: that looks interesting...02:55
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anto9uscan I do an install from the live cd?02:55
thoreauputicShadowRage: either the iso file or the disc itself. You can do a diff if you like on the comparison, or just eyeball it02:55
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ShadowRagethoreauputic: I dont think you're getting what I'm saying02:56
goldfishanto9us: nope02:56
ShadowRagethoreauputic: there's an md5sum.txt file on the iso02:56
thoreauputicShadowRage: why are you asking me? Ask the cahnnel02:56
ShadowRageit has a list of all the packages02:56
thoreauputic*channel02:56
anto9usty goldfish :)02:56
goldfishnp :)02:56
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hybrid_gothanto9us: not yet but they will prolly have the option sometime b/c the intrest in it is sky rocketing02:56
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karljpbit of a downer to download 1.2gig isn't it :)02:57
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Kisaincan vmware play games?02:58
eruinget cedega02:58
mjrKisain, not really02:58
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Kisaini have it02:58
karljpdepends what you mean by game.02:58
Kisaindam02:59
Kisainragnarok02:59
g14vmware is way to slow for gaming02:59
Kisainit's an rpg02:59
bpuccioKisain: from what I've been told, VMWare emulates a very non-gaming 3D card, giving the nested OS not much power to do anything with02:59
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anto9usanyone here had successful experience with ubuntu on Dell Inspiron 9100 or similar?02:59
Kisainthats what i thought02:59
Kisainso cedega would be my best bet03:00
g14yep03:00
eruinwine might also work03:00
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eruinif the game is too old for cedega03:00
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Cowlike-awayanto9us, i use kubuntu on a dell inspiron820003:00
Kisainkk03:00
rcmivi have done wc2 and aoe on win98 installed in qemu03:00
rcmivwin95, actually, scuse03:01
anto9usany problems in particular Cowlike-away?03:01
Cowlike-awayanto9us that's what i'm using right now, actually03:01
Cowlikeoops... no longer away :)   no, it works great03:01
rcmivKisain: which rpg?03:01
dcravenVMWare doesn't do 3d.03:01
dcravenAt least it didn't last summer.03:02
SerriaRomeocould someone please point me towards a faq or a file that will tell me how to configure my internet connection, since the server requires i log in before allowing me browse the net?03:02
anto9usCowlike: what about suspend to ram, suspend to disk isn't so important to me but does it work?03:02
SerriaRomeoit's wireless dsl, not dialup.03:02
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dcravenSerriaRomeo: This might help? --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto03:03
Kisainragnarok03:03
Kisainaero client03:03
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rcmivyeah, if it's 3d forget it03:04
Bachus9000Has anyone else had luck with xcompmgr's -C option?  Even after using it I still get shadows around the gnome panel.03:04
Kisaini think it's kinda 2d maby03:04
_chavoKisain, it needs directx 3d support03:05
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Kisaindamn and vmware don't have it03:05
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Kisainso cedega it is03:05
karljpanto9us, suspend to ram works,03:06
karljpI'm like you, I couldn't care less about suspend to disk03:06
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karljphowever I've had serious lockup problems with suspend to ram if the wireless is active,03:06
karljpwhich I've not resolved as of yet.03:06
phxguyanyone know how i can view my logs?03:06
P0ldy/var/log?03:06
karljpand it won't automatically enter suspend to ram just by pressing the power button briefly.03:06
karljpI need to run a script from /etc/acpi03:06
phxguyI seem to remeber that ubuntu came with a log viewer util but I dont seem to have it any longer03:07
anto9uskarljp: you running on an Inspiron?03:07
karljpyeah, 860003:08
phxguyP0ldy: I was hoping for some kinda frontend or utility03:08
P0ldykarl: having similar issues here, i6000.03:08
karljpI need to play with it a bit more yet,03:08
karljpthere's some stuff in the docs about how to disable wireless first,03:08
P0ldyphxguy: ah, not sure then.03:08
_chavoBachus9000, try restarting gnome-panel -> killall gnome-panel03:08
karljpbut seeing as it locks me up, I need to set aside some proper time to work on it.03:08
nickrudphxguy, I think it's system log under system tools03:09
karljpbut I have had suspend to ram work flawlessly03:09
karljpbefore I got the wireless working03:09
karljpit came back to life beautifully.03:09
karljpnot nearly as painless to use as windows however.03:09
phxguynickrud: Yeah but like I said  I dont seem to have that utility anylonger03:09
spiderwormdoes ubuntu come default with a firewall?  if so how do i configure it?03:10
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Bachus9000_chavo: I've done that several times.  That merely keeps other windows from overlapping the panel.  It does nothing about the shadows.03:11
Grabenno03:11
karljpspiderworm, perhaps you need to consider what exactly you are firewalling.03:11
g14spiderworm: The ubuntu firewall sits in the background by default and puts the computer in listen only mode03:11
karljpor what exactly you wish to achieve03:11
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nickrudphxguy, it's in the package gnome-utils03:11
g14spiderworm: Use synaptic and get firestarter from multiverse03:11
phxguyah-ha thanks nickrud03:11
dcravenspiderworm: It does not. But if you want one, firestarter seems popular.03:11
tolstoyanyone here suddenly have a problem printing to a postscript printer from firefox?03:11
anto9uswhat's the default python version that ubuntu 5.04 comes with?03:12
tolstoyI see the solution in the actual printout: gs -q -sDevice=pswrite, etc, etc, but is there a setting somewhere OTHER than firefox to fix this?03:12
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spiderwormkarljp: I need to open up a port I suppose so that I can connect to mysqld running on my ubuntu box from other machines03:12
foxinessrcmiv, if u stil intrested see this http://www.users.monornet.hu/linux/gtk.html03:12
gunnyanto9us,  2.4103:12
karljpthen it should jus tbe open.03:12
Burgundavia?? firewall03:12
[uhelp] firewall: A nice gui to configure a firewall is Firestarter, which is in universe03:12
karljpas has been mentioned, there is no default firewalling03:13
karljpbut by default there are no services either.03:13
darkauditwhy would firestarter keep blockin connections from a port I've set to be open?03:13
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ShadowRagealso, how do you burn audio cd's with nautilus?03:13
BurgundaviaShadowRage, you don't03:13
anto9usgunny: do you know, is it easy to install python 2.3 as default?03:13
BurgundaviaShadowRage, you need gnomebaker or graveman03:13
spiderwormkarljp: no services?  so mysqld isnt running as a service on my ubuntu box?03:13
g14gnomebaker is the best03:13
ShadowRageBurgundavia: meh, they need to create a way to burn audio cd's03:13
karljpit is if you installed it03:13
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gunnyanto9us,  not through ubuntu's repos I do't think03:14
karljpbut mysql wasn't installed by default03:14
BurgundaviaShadowRage, there is something in the works for breezy03:14
spiderwormkarljp: i installed mysql as part of mythtv03:14
tolstoydamn, the firefox fix doesn't work (or at least what it prints instead of my output)03:14
BurgundaviaShadowRage, something called serpentine03:14
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dcravenanto9us: 2.3 is also in apt.03:14
ShadowRageBurgundavia: and if there are any non-cd track files (eg, non audio files) the disk is turned into a hybrid03:14
anto9usdcraven: I can install alongside? I need it for zope03:14
nickruddarkaudit, it shouldn't, I've been using it for years, off and on, and it's running my firewall now03:15
BurgundaviaShadowRage, serpentine is a pure audio cd solutin03:15
ShadowRageah03:15
phxguywhich logs has the messages from boot-up03:15
karljpspiderworm: then you should just already be able to access the mysql from remotely.03:15
ShadowRageI mean, this would be a good idea03:15
Burgundaviadrag and dtop03:15
karljp(unless mysql needs any setup to make it listen to remote callers)03:15
spiderwormkarljp: i must be doing something wrong then03:15
karljpwell, does mysql need any additional config to listen to remotes?03:15
karljpI have a feeling it might, but I don't know for sure.03:15
anto9uscan I use debian testing apt sources with ubuntu?03:16
spiderwormkarljp: i'm checking it out in #mysql, thanx03:16
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BurgundaviaShadowRage, http://s1x.homelinux.net/projects/serpentine03:16
dcravenanto9us: Yes. I have both installed.03:16
karljpanto: maybe03:16
karljpsome of the work, some don't03:16
dcravenanto9us: Be careful if you mix repositories.03:17
nickrudspiderworm, netstat -tl will tell you what's listening and to whom03:17
anto9usdcraven: yeah, I have to pin and prioritise, right?03:17
spiderwormooh cool thanx03:17
dcravenanto9us: /usr/bin/python is just a symlink to /usr/bin/python2.4. There is also a /usr/bin/python2.3 as well if you would rather use that.03:18
dcravenanto9us: Yes. Pin and prioritise, but I suggest you use sparingly as problems have been reported by mixing repos.03:19
anto9usmore like I will have to than rather in order to get my application server running, thanks dcraven03:19
spiderwormnickrud: doesnt look like mysqld is listening, thanx for the help03:19
nickrudspiderworm, np03:19
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dcravenanto9us: Well if it's just for one app, you could always start it with a script that runs python2.3 instead of python, or edit its init script. That might be a better idea than changing the default symlink permanently.03:20
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nickrudspiderworm, netstat -ul is another listening test, just not as useful, except when it is :)03:20
anto9usdcraven: one of the problems is installing psycopg to connect to postgresql database, can be tricky, I managed to get it all up and running with debian sarge though03:21
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dcravenanto9us: there is a python2.4-psycopg package. Would that be of use?03:24
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dcravenanto9us: python-psycopg depends on 2.4 it seems, not 2.3.03:24
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dcravenanto9us: But I don't know anything about it.. I'm just looking at dependancies.03:25
anto9usdoes it include zpsycopgda too dcraven?03:25
anto9usI need it to connect my zope application to postgresql03:26
nickrudanto9us, a couple of ubuntu developers have said we can try pulling from unstable, the one thing I tried didn't work though.03:26
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tjshow can I tell what device in /dev/ some hardware is hooked up to?03:27
dcravenanto9us: there is a zope2.7-psycopgda package that will bring in python2.3-psychopg, which in turn will bring in python2.3.03:27
usynictjs: what kind of hardware?03:28
dcravenanto9us: I'd suggest that it might work as expected right out of the box for you.03:28
anto9usdcraven: excellent! :)03:28
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tjsa scsi 1u exabyte autoloader03:28
tolstoyah. seems in the printer tool, you can select the "advanced" tab and have the filter setting convert PS to level 2.  Thanks guys! ;)03:28
usynictjs: check dmesg03:28
tjsusynic, ahh thanks :)03:28
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cyphaseahhh..03:29
tjsuugh, dmesg is full of firewall msgs03:30
ShadowRagehow do I stop ubuntu from spamming my terminals with system messages?03:30
cyphasey isn't php working on ubuntu? it was earlier, but i uninstalled apache and reinstalled, and now its not03:30
cyphaselol03:30
anto9usthanks guys, I'm on 35% of my download of install cd and feel confident things will go ok03:30
cyphaseanyone have any suggestions03:30
cyphase?03:30
ShadowRageI keep getting debug messages from the system03:30
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dcravenShadowRage: Did you run a command from the terminal recently that is still maybe running in said terminal?03:31
billyhow do I enable a root account?03:31
dcraven?? root03:31
[uhelp] root: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:31
skorabilly, sudo -s03:31
skoraif you want to stay in root.03:31
billythanks03:31
skorabut its suggested to do so only when necessary03:31
skorawelcome, thats my name03:31
skora^_^03:31
tjscrazy..03:31
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ShadowRagedcraven: nope03:32
nickrudtjs, try  grep xabuy /var/log/dmesg, or some variations to cut the clutter03:32
tjsthere is one autoloader, but it comes up as two devices..03:32
ShadowRagedoes it with all of them suddenly03:32
ShadowRagepissing me off03:32
billyI want to admin the computer from root account so I dont have to keep sudo-ing03:32
g14billy03:32
dcravenShadowRage: Close that terminal and open another one.03:32
g14There is an easier way03:32
ShadowRagedcraven: does it in new terminals03:32
mcquaidhello i can't seem to get the nvidia binary to stick after a reboot03:32
mcquaidi had the nvidia glx pkg installed and it was fine but i was getting random lockups03:33
dcravenShadowRage: Hmm.. I've never gotten a message in a terminal. Do you know what they are relating too? It may be serious..heh03:33
mcquaidon my other distro i've used 66.29 without issue so i uninstalled the pkg and installed the nvidia binaries but they wont stay on a reboot03:33
ShadowRagedcraven: just mounting messages03:33
nickrudShadowRage, you mean on the console?03:33
dcravenShadowRage: errors?03:34
mcquaidbasically the x server fails saying no screens found, if i reinstall it's fine again until next reboot03:34
ShadowRagedcraven: isnt doing it now that I completely restarted gnome terminal03:34
ShadowRageit was all in any new terminals I opened in gnome-terminal03:34
ShadowRagesyslogd messages03:34
mcquaidi thought it might be a rivafb issue so i recompiled the kernel but same thing03:34
ShadowRagekept pissing me off03:34
mcquaidi've never had any issues with nvidia before trying ubuntu03:34
ShadowRageokay, now, how do I add a cd to the list of apt repositories?03:34
thundrcleezeIs there a way to force firefox and most other programs to not recognize my ink jet as a postscript printer?03:35
usynicmcquaid: I was having trouble too.... make sure you remove the restricted modules, nvidia-glx, and then reinstall the .run package03:35
nickrudthundrcleeze, all linux printing is to postscript, cups will translate it to your printer.03:35
mcquaidi not sure if i saw this correctly but i believe when i had the nvidia pkg installed, there was an entry for nvidia /etc/rcS.d/03:36
tritiumusynic: why are you advising him to do that?03:36
dcravenmcquaid: When you say they "don't stay" does that mean the module doesn't load on boot?03:36
thundrcleezenickrud, okay.  How can I make cups to translate it?03:36
usynictritium: because he said he downloaded the one off the site.03:36
tjshttp://rafb.net/paste/results/I5j5eh99.html <- the relevent dmesg output03:36
mcquaiddcraven, it attempts to load the nvidia module but X fails saying no available screens found03:36
thundrcleezenickrud, it works fine in Abiword, but not in OOo or firefox.03:36
tjsit doesnt seem to have a /dev entry?03:36
tritiumthe restricted-modules and nvidia-glx packages are the preferred way03:36
XTCboarderis there a plugin for gaim that allows me o have camera and audio conversation?03:37
XTCboarderi can't find anything on google03:37
usynictritium: I agree... but if he said they didn't work...03:37
mcquaidusynic, i noticed those restricted modules, but when i flag that pkg for removal it wants to remove the kernel as well03:37
skoraXTCboarder, im pretty sure that gaim doesn't have support for that yet :(03:37
mcquaidcan someone who currently has the nvidia pkg installed tell me if there is a nvidia script in /etc/rcS.d03:38
usynicmcquaid: so what happened when you used the restrictecd modules?03:38
skora[for the camera] 03:38
nickrudthundrcleeze, I'm not sure what the problem is, 00o and epiphany are working here, on my crappy printer, which takes all my cycles, which is why I'm hanging around here, cuz it doesn't take many cyles03:38
skoraaudio - im not sure03:38
XTCboarderis there a plugin for gaim that allows me o have camera and audio conversation?:(03:38
tritiummcquaid: have you inspected /var/log/Xorg.0.log at all?03:38
XTCboarder!03:38
XTCboarder:(03:38
g14XTCboarder: gaim-vv03:38
mcquaidtritium yes, the error isn't much help03:38
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XTCboarderthx03:38
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XTCboardercool03:38
XTCboarder:)03:38
dcravenmcquaid: there is no script in that directory.03:38
tritiummcquaid: what was it?03:39
XTCboarderMSN not supported. << :p03:39
thundrcleezeg14, where would one find gaim-vv?03:39
g14google03:39
thundrcleezeIt doesn't seem to be in any repo I have.03:39
XTCboarderhttp://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/03:39
|QuaD-hey, whats the difference beteen galeon and epiphany? both seem to be the "official gnome webbrowsers03:39
|QuaD-"03:39
tritiumthundrcleeze: you'll have to build it from soure, along with some other stuff03:40
thundrcleezetritium, what fun!03:40
tritium:)03:40
g14checkinstall does debs I believe03:40
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raydoggIs there a step by step guide on rebuilding the exact kernel that is distributed on the ubuntu cd ?03:40
mcquaidi see this: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)03:40
raydoggeverytime i try to recompile it i have an issue, and it is much smaller ( 1.2 megs ) vs. the 4 meg one ubuntu ships with03:41
usynicmcquaid: and you modprobed nvidia?03:41
billythis sudo crap is burning me up, i cant edit .conf files03:41
dcraven|QuaD-: Epiphany is the GNOME browser officially as far as I know. Galeon used to be.03:41
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anto9us|QuaD-: I think epiphany is the latest official one03:41
tritiummcquaid: looks like you need to have the nvidia module loaded03:41
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serverid justlike to get filetransfers to work in gaim03:41
mcquaidnope never modprobed nvidia, never have with other distros, i've always just run the binary installer and made sure xorg.conf was set correctly03:41
usynicmcquaid: and what happens if you modprobe nvidia?03:42
|QuaD-anto9us, dcraven: does that mean that galeon isn''t in development anymore?03:42
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karljpserver: I can't get them to work either :)03:42
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serverits terrible03:42
karljpdo you know why it is?03:42
tritiummcquaid: you should at least check to make sure it's loaded.  If it's not, you probably want to add it to /etc/modules03:42
gp_aaronhow do I add things to the places --> computer area?03:42
serverno, i wish.03:42
servermaybe a filed bug?03:42
dcraven|QuaD-: Not at all. I think it is still being actively developed. GNOME just changed their focus.03:43
chavo|QuaD-, galeon is still being developed03:43
usynicmcquaid: also, I know I went through exactly what you're going through.  Unfortunately restricted modules and the official nvidia package put the nvidia.ko in different places03:43
mcquaidtritium, could you give me whats listed regarding nvidia in your /etc/modules?03:43
usynicso it's possible you have two different modules installed....03:43
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tritiummcquaid: just "nvidia"03:43
|QuaD-dcraven, chavo so what are the differences between them? screenshots seem very similar03:43
mcquaidhmm, ok ill try that03:44
usynicmcquaid: if I were you, I'd find /lib/modules -name "*nvidia*" -exec rm {} \;03:44
dcraven|QuaD-: Mostly interface differences. You can try them both and lose the one you like least.03:44
chavo|QuaD-, There are slight differences, especially in the bookmark handling03:44
usynicand then reinstall the nvidia-glx and restricted modules.03:44
|QuaD-dcraven, chavo do either use mozilla ff extensions?03:44
chavoI haven't run gnome in a while, but I prefer galeon.03:44
dcraven|QuaD-: I don't think so.03:44
tritiummcquaid: usynic gave you some good advice there.  Please try it.03:45
nickrud|QuaD-, no, they don't03:45
chavoyou can use some extensions,03:45
mcquaidusynic, thx for the suggestion as well, i'm going to try simply adding nvidia to modules first then i'll try that03:45
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chavobut not any that use xul.03:45
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tritiummcquaid: the problem with just adding that line to /etc/modules is you may still have the module from the nvidia installer installed, rather than the one that matches your kernel version from restricted-modules03:46
nickrudchavo, I tried a few, did you get adblock to work?03:46
octaviousgot a question, i have an installation CD running and it fails at the base install, because of a corruption on the cd...is there a way to install the base system from the online apt-repositories?03:46
|QuaD-chavo: hmmm, none that use xml03:46
karljpmaybe, I had those problems too, I just reburnt the cd.03:46
|QuaD-chavo: don't they all03:46
karljpcdrws are awesome03:46
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chavo|QuaD-, most do yes.03:46
mcquaidi dont understand this restricted modules what is the nvidia driver in there when ubuntu has a sep package for nvidia-glx03:46
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nickrud|QuaD-, it's been a while since I used galeon, but epiphany is light and fast compared to firefox03:47
chavonickrud, adblock will work yes.03:47
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Justinnvidia-glx is not a module.03:47
lostanyone know where to get those random login quotes when u ssh to your box?03:47
nickrudchavo, I'll have to run firefox for a while then, thanks03:47
|QuaD-do things like shockwave and java work with epiphany?03:47
tritiummcquaid: linux-restricted-modules contains the kernel module, nvidia-glx contains a module for X03:47
octaviouslost: fortune03:47
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octaviousthat and a modified /etc/profile, most likely03:48
dcravenAdblock works in Epiphany?? Cool.03:48
lostoct- fortune? Is that whats its called?03:48
nickrud|QuaD-, yes, everything that gecko does, epiphany does03:48
usyniclost: apt-get install fortune-mod03:48
usyniclost: there's also add on packages... apt-cache search fortune03:48
|QuaD-nickrud: never used either, considering ditching ff03:48
tritiummcquaid: and it's important that the kernel module, nvidia, come from l-r-m with the same version as your running kernel, i.e. linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)03:48
chavodcraven, sort of.03:48
RaskallInteresting. Someone has attempted to hack into my server on ssh. Luckily I am running an updated ssh-server that requires 2K pubkey auth to log in.03:48
dcravenchavo: Well that doesn't sound very promising ;P03:48
karljp!define hack03:49
mcquaidyes i currently have the same kernel and restricted03:49
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nickrud|QuaD-, the only thing I miss from firefox is save a group of tabs as bookmarks in a folder03:49
karljpoh no! I got packets to my ssh port!03:49
mcquaidbut currently booted in a custom kernel i just compiled to see if i could solve some of these issues03:49
karljpsome0neZ ahckzr0ing m3!03:49
lexxannickrud, what browser do you use03:49
tritiummcquaid: what does "modinfo nvidia" tell you?  We want to verify that the nvidia module comes from l-r-m, and not the binary installer from nvidia03:49
nickrudepiphany03:49
|QuaD-nickrud: i have some extensions a really like that i will probably miss if i switch03:49
lexxanah03:49
lostusynic- do u know if they have that for RHEL 4.0?03:49
mcquaidand i was curious and just mounted my other linux install of deb sid, i have no mention of nvidia in that /etc/modules03:49
lexxanit in packages?03:50
Raskallkarljp: a lot of entries in auth.log with failed login attempts of usernames that has never existed on my server.03:50
nickrudlexxan, ?03:50
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usyniclost: you got me... I've never used rhel03:50
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chavoAdblock just uses a stylesheet to hide certain elements. You can use the stylesheet with any browser.03:50
MightyFcisco curriculum is driving me nuts03:50
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g14Use the AllowUser and PermitRootLogin directives in your sshd_config. That alone will stop most brute force hack attempts03:50
tritiummcquaid: maybe you were using the "nv" driver03:50
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mcquaidno currently i'm using nv just to have access to X03:50
chavoI use it with konqueror, just don't have the right-click functionality.03:51
mcquaidit says this: filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko03:51
nickrudlexxan, if you mean did I use the ubuntu package, yes, along with extensions03:51
Raskallg14: I do that and require pubkey-auth.03:51
mcquaidwhich isn't good as i'm currently in my custom kern03:51
tritiummcquaid: and the vermagic?03:51
tritiumwell, if you're using a custom kernel, then you need to build your own nvidia kernel module03:51
lexxanis it faster than firefox03:51
mcquaidi did that by downloading the nvidia binaries03:51
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nickrudlexxan, on a slower machine, there is no comparison03:52
usynicmcquaid: what does uname -a say ?03:52
dcravenlexxan: what isn't? heh03:52
usynicmcquaid: and removing the restricted modules won't hurt your custom kernel, though you may need to backup your menu.lst03:52
tritiummcquaid: do you really need a custom kernel?03:52
nickrudplus, it's footprint is a lot smaller, meaning less swap on a slower drive :)03:52
mcquaiddamn i'm tired i rebooted and let it choose default, so i'm currently in the stock 686 ubuntu kern03:52
mcquaidLinux mcquaid 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:27:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux03:52
lexxanI like opera but I hate the ads ;/03:53
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mcquaidno i don't care about a custom really, just seeing if it could solve this problem03:53
nickrudepiphany *just works* lol03:53
MightyFi like firefox but i can't play videos in it for some reason03:53
g14I like firefox and haven't seen an ad in a few weeks03:53
mcquaidso ignore the custom issue, right now i'm in the stock kernel but i can't get the binary to stick after a reboot03:54
nickrudpretty good intelligent search of bookmarks and history from the location bar03:54
MightyFand that aggravates me03:54
tritiummcquaid: if that's the case, you're best off using a matching kernel and linux-restricted-modules03:54
g14I can play videos in ff since I installed realplayer03:54
g14nonfree03:54
MightyFreally?03:54
karljpI like firefox, but can someone tell me how to make it open a mailto: link in an existing thunderbird?03:54
MightyFonly realplayer videos?03:54
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karljpit just keeps offering me a profile chooser03:54
usynicmplayer-plugin will do that...03:54
nickrudyeah, non free realplayer and mozilla-mplayer work real well in epiphany03:54
mcquaidthat's what i am using, well that's what i have installed anyway03:54
usynictoo bad it's mostly broken...03:54
mcquaidstill not clear on this restricted modules, why can't i remove that and use the nvidia binary?03:55
dcravenMightyF: Do you have mozplugger installed?03:55
MightyFnickrud, hmmm, maybe I'll try epiphany, whats the drawback?03:55
mcquaidif i try to remove the restricted modules it flags the kern for removal as well03:55
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Raskallhmm.. it seems it's a microsoft user that has loads of windows ports open that has tried to hack my ssh.03:55
MightyFdcraven, I think so, do you mean the mozilla-mplayer plugin?03:55
|QuaD-nickrud: are there more extensions for epiphany then are in the ubuntu package?03:55
nickrudMightyF, no firefox extensions, but I can live without them03:55
usynicmcquaid: it only flags a kernel that apt installed... it won't touch your custom kernel03:55
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p0mkarljp: I don't think it's possible to use an existing thunderbird window. The closest thing you can do is to tell Thunderbird profile chooser not to ask at startup.03:56
mcquaidyes i realize that but if i'm going to ignore my cust kernel i just installed and sitck with the stock how do i isntall binaries from nvidia's site?03:56
dcravenMightyF: I have both installed actually, but I'm not sure which one successfully plays the movies...hehe. I certainly don't have any realplayer installed.03:56
lexxanmcquaid, The ubuntu ones won't work?03:56
karljpp0m: no, it must be. the mozilla-thunderbird script comments even say that is what it is trying to do.03:56
tritiummcquaid: you'd need to grab linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build it.03:56
mcquaidthey were giving me random lockups03:56
lexxanah03:56
tritiummcquaid: you're better off just using the ubuntu ones03:56
karljpand I know people for whom it "just works" on debian03:56
lexxanmcquaid.. take a look at the 3rd link03:57
MightyFdcraven, dcraven mplayer has a loading thing that you'd notice03:57
lexxanmight help03:57
lexxan?? nvidia03:57
[uhelp] nvidia: to setup your xorg binary nvidia driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto -OR- http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver -ALSO- http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html03:57
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p0mkarljp: Well, aside from that way, I'm clueless. As it is, that way works fine anyhow.03:57
mcquaidi've read there are some issues with 7174 and xorg so i wanted to go to 66.29 which i've been using for months without issue in my other distro03:57
tritiumWhich nvidia chip, mcquaid ?03:57
mcquaidgf4 ti 420003:57
lexxanYou could probably use the sid one.03:57
lexxanor testing.03:57
nickrud|QuaD-, sorry was away for a sec: yes, there are some (including an adblock) but they are not built in the ubuntu package03:58
mcquaidi've been using it in deb sid without issue for 2 years03:58
karljpp0m: what do you mean,that way works fine?03:58
lexxanactually ya use testing03:58
dcravenMightyF: That's true isn't it... I just watched a bunch of trailers at apple.com last nite and there was no buffering screen. I know the screen you mean though.03:58
chavomcquaid, I was getting lockups with 7174, while using the composite extension03:58
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g14composite isn't stable yet03:58
mcquaidi haven't even mucked with the composite extension03:58
p0mkarljp: It doesn't load up a full instance of thunderbird, iirc. All it does is load up the dialog to send a message.03:58
p0mkarljp: Which is handy when you don't have thunderbird open.03:59
karljpwell, it works fine right now if thunderbird isn't open.03:59
MightyFdcraven, installing using snaptic right now.  Gonna try out the mozplugger03:59
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ParkwayErm..anyone know where I can go to get the newest libc6 ?03:59
karljpbut I want it to work when thunderbird is open.03:59
karljpparkway: what do you need it for?03:59
ParkwayTrying to use Synaptic but it just wants to keep the older(?) one03:59
Parkwaylibxvidcore4:  Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed03:59
dcravenMightyF: Try it at apple.com/trailers. I'm curious to see what exactly is playing these things.. heh03:59
ParkwayTrying to get Mplayer and Xmms to work03:59
lexxanIs opera 7 any good?04:00
Parkwayright now they both just lock up when I try to use them04:00
mcquaidso basically does one have to stick with ubuntu nvidia pkg? meaning is there no way for one to use an older nvidia binary if one wants04:00
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ParkwayTho I dunno if thats my nVidia drivers :(04:00
chavomcquaid, I'm using 662904:00
Parkway<--linux newb04:00
usynicmcquaid: I'm doing ubuntu's on one machine, the nvidia binary on another04:00
MightyFdcraven, is that only for mozilla, or firefox too?04:00
usynicmcquaid: I bet you just have some packaging conflicts or something04:00
nickrudchavo, you mentioned a place I can look at editing the firefox adblock file, could you give the location?04:00
mcquaidchavo, how did you install 6629?04:00
karljpparkway, don't try and use packages for mplayer04:00
karljpit's more pain than you want.04:00
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karljpjust build it from source.04:01
karljpand don't worry about version this or that04:01
XTCboardermy foot itches04:01
chavoJust used the installer from nvidia.04:01
XTCboarderapt-get newfoot04:01
XTCboarder:(04:01
Parkwayok..so how can I get it to work? lol04:01
dcravenMightyF: mozilla-firefox is listed as suggested for mozplugger, so I'm guessing both.04:01
ParkwayLike I said, both mplayer and xmms lock up when I hit the Play button04:01
anto9uskarljp: look at the -remote option for thunderbird04:01
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mcquaidParkway try xmms with esd selected for output04:02
MightyFdcraven, how do you set it up?  I can't find it04:02
Parkwaymcquaid, how do I do that?04:02
dcravenMightyF: I did nothing. Try just restarting firefox.04:02
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usynicmcquaid: you might also try istalling the esd-alsa libs, so that esd actually uses alsa04:03
p0mXTCboarder: apt-get footcream?04:03
karljpahh the remote option.  yes I can see that, but basically that would be for sticking in a script, along with ping to see if it's already running04:03
karljpbefore you know it, I'll have rewritten the existing mozilla-thunderbird script04:03
karljpwhich _should_ work, but isn't.04:03
XTCboarder:p04:03
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jazzkahi!04:04
mcquaidyes thx usynic04:04
jazzkahow can I know if I running nfs as client? or maybe as server?04:04
mcquaidParkway, i haven't installed xmms yet here, and i don't plan to, so it's hard to tell you how to get there04:04
mcquaidbut if you look it's easy, it's in preferences04:04
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mcquaidby default it's using oss, change it to esd04:05
mcquaidi don't use xmms cause beep is a xmms clone but gtk204:05
karljp(except beep took away doublesize for godknows what reason)04:05
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usynicer... yeah, talking to the wrong person, lol.04:05
usynicoh well.04:05
karljp(and it won't let me just resize it either)04:05
MightyFdcraven, mplayer is in mine :)04:05
Parkwaywish I knew what gtk2 was but, thanks giving it a shot now ;004:05
MightyFdcraven, and it works! :)04:06
Parkway;)04:06
dcravenMightyF: So you can play now? Cool!04:06
mcquaidsorry gtk2 is basically what gnome uses04:06
ParkwayAh works!!04:06
ParkwayThanks mcquaid!04:06
dcravenMightyF: I'll go check again.. I don't remember that buffering screen though...04:06
karljpmplayer probably isn't using esd either.04:06
mcquaidso beep-media players menus takes on the look and feel of gnome04:06
mcquaidnp04:06
MightyFdcraven, yeah, i had mplayer buffer screen04:06
ParkwayWould you say beep is better?  Im running gnome so..(might sound dumb)04:06
karljpbeep is for most purposes identical to xmms04:06
karljpif you aren't seeing any problems with xmms, then there's probably little reason to change.04:07
Parkway10-404:07
mcquaidit's not really better, but just intergrates better, do you notice when you go to open a file in xmms that the file chooser looks somewhat foreign compared to the rest of gnome?04:07
MightyFdcraven, oops, don't hit back when watching the trailer, my firefox took a dump04:07
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Parkwaymcquaid; ya I do04:07
karljpmcquaid: filechoosers are far from consistent anyway :)04:07
mcquaidwell with beep that will go away04:07
dcravenMightyF: No I'm not getting the buffering screen... And I just hit back.. haha. I wonder what is playing mine.04:07
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karljpyou have the gtk1 file chooser, the gtk2 file chooser, the qt one, the tk one, the custom X one, the custom Y one.04:08
ParkwayQuick question:  is there an mp3 or music manager anyone recommends?04:08
mcquaidno but gtk1 apps (like xmms) stand out like a sore thumb in gnome04:08
MightyFdcraven, i uninstalled mozplugger and it works the same way04:08
karljpI still think that xmms's file chooser is FAR superior to what firefox is currently using :)04:08
mcquaidkarljp, thats why i pretty much stick to all gnome (gtk2) apps04:08
dcravenMightyF: Interesting...04:08
MightyFdcraven, so i don't think my mozplugger is working yet04:08
karljpyou don't find that rather limits your choice of apps mcquaid?04:08
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mcquaidnot really04:08
dcravenMightyF: It appears you don't need it to :)04:08
mcquaidthe last qt app i was running was k3b and gnomebaker is coming along nicely04:09
karljpI guess my problem at the moment is that I don't have the apps I want period, let alone in a specific toolkit04:09
mkdedoes anyone know anything about gpg? I am having a massive issue, basically my keyring is gone: http://pastebin.ca/1078604:09
MightyFdcraven, i'd rather it run without crashing my browser, thanks :)04:09
mcquaidi hear ya, i felt that way for a bit, but found most of the stuff i wanted in gnome04:09
dcravenMightyF: Bah.. Technicalities.04:09
karljpfind me my desktop mapping :(04:09
mcquaidlike for ex. i used to use mplayer, but now use totem04:09
MightyFdcraven, ha04:09
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lexxantotem is pimp.04:10
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drcodeHi all04:10
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ParkwayMPlayer works now that changed it to esd output lol.  Whats up with that? I mean..whats OSS?04:10
drcodeany one can help me with 3d card of nvidia04:10
drcodewhen I do vendor I see(glxinfo) I get SGI04:10
drcodeand not nvidia any ideA?04:10
karljpyou know how on windows, you just install a sound driver parkway?04:10
karljpand it just works?04:10
nickrudyeah, should be arrested04:10
mcquaidoss is the older sound system that's pretty much dead04:10
ParkwayTrue04:10
karljpwell on linnux, there are all these different ways of using the sound system04:10
mkdedoes anyone know anything about gpg? I am having a massive issue, basically my keyring is gone: http://pastebin.ca/1078604:10
DonLParkway, thanks. I forgot about changing to that04:10
karljpand they don't like to play together04:11
MightyFParkway, its an old sound system thats used by old programs.04:11
karljpand somethings think one of them should be the default.04:11
karljpand some think another should be the default.04:11
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karljpand some try to use one for compatibility reasons04:11
ParkwayGotcha, thanks.04:11
mcquaidalsa is the new.  esd is the enlightened sound daemon. which basically attempts to share your card among apps/ system sounds04:11
karljpand others say screw compatibility, we want features.04:11
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karljpso basicalyl consider yourself lucky that it's 200504:11
DonLactually, I think I have mplayer using alsa04:11
karljpeven 18months ago, getting sound in linux was an "experience"04:11
Parkwaylol04:12
mcquaidand parkway your probably using alsa, so you should go in synaptic and install libesd-alsa04:12
SeamusLPkarljp:  Sound in linux is actually very simple once you learn it...04:12
nickrudyeah, and the kernel people decided not to continue to deal with people that close drivers04:12
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karljp(I shouldn't have to learn it)04:12
mcquaidas usynic suggested earlier04:12
HrdwrBoBkarljp: most of that depends on hardware though.. cheap hardware tends to be very bad04:12
karljp(I have speakers, I have mp3s, make the soudn come out)04:12
ParkwayOk mcquaid, will do04:12
HrdwrBoBand badly suppored it04:12
mcquaidit will flag libesd for removal, let it04:12
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HrdwrBoBkarljp: I totally agree, that's the way ubuntu approaches it04:12
karljpand the way it should if it wants nongeeks to use it :)04:13
SeamusLPkarljp:  On windows you have to learn how to do things as well.  There's a learning curve when you switch to a different OS.  Ubuntu tries to minimize it as much as possible...04:13
mcquaidi just want nvidia bin's working04:13
karljpwhat it wants or doesn't want is not my decision to make of course04:13
DonLI get most of what I learn right here04:13
ParkwayI have an nvidia card, think I got the drivers instealled right.  Anyway to check that?04:14
Parkwayinstalled even04:14
karljpdo you have X?04:14
mcquaidtry a 3d app04:14
DonLlike tuxracer04:14
ParkwayDont think I even have one installed at the moment heh04:14
mcquaidglxgears will launch regardless if they are working or not but the fps reported is a good indicator04:14
dell500will this howto work with Ubuntu hoary? http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4504:14
mcquaidbut ya tuxracer will let you know04:14
Cowlikeanto9us, was that you asking about the inspiron 9100?04:15
p0mParkway: glxgears04:15
p0mmcquaid: Beat me to it :)04:15
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DonLor check out a gl screensaver and see how it looks04:15
karljphmm, 2000fps?04:15
nickrudmcquaid, glxinfo | grep direct will tell you at least if you have direct rendering04:15
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anto9usCowlike: yes04:15
karljpyou'd think it would look smooth at that rate04:15
karljpinstead of jerking so much.04:15
p0mIf you're using the firegl drivers you can use fgl_glxgears.04:15
mcquaidno it's jerking becuae vsync is off04:15
Parkwaygears are turning04:15
SeamusLPAnd you're using free software.  Mr. Shuttleworth puts a good bit of money into making sure you have a good experience in linux.  Not many people will do that.04:15
Cowlikeanto9us, well, unfortunately, neither swap to ram nor hibernate worked for me04:15
MightyFdcraven, still not working04:15
karljpcowlike: in what way is it failing?04:16
nickrudSeamusLP, i got your back on that one :)04:16
mcquaidkarljp, try this before you launch glxgears export __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=104:16
Cowlikeanto9us, swap to ram came back with a black screen (although stuff was running) and hibernate crashed upon restart04:16
anto9usCowlike: ah well, not the most essential thing, just a nice to have04:16
mcquaidbut you only see fps of the refresh rate of your monitor, but thats a good thing04:16
helio7Can anyone highly recommend a 802.11g pcmcia wifi card that works with Ubuntu beautifully (no ndiswrapper)?04:16
karljpmcquaid: why would I not want to have that by default?04:16
karljphelio: we could, but where would you buy it?04:16
mcquaidi hear ya, i think it should be default04:17
anto9usCowlike: did you try the lid switch on the swap to ram return?04:17
karljphalf the time by the time you buy it, the next hardware rev has come out, and it's no longer the same.04:17
mcquaidvsync off should only be for benchmarking04:17
SeamusLPnickrud:  Not to mention us volunteers, eh?04:17
mcquaidon by default that is04:17
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karljphey, pretty gears04:17
Cowlikeanto9us, the lid switch didn't work, although i tried turning it on in klaptop04:17
karljpbut only 60fps04:17
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mcquaidthats the current refresh rate of your monitor04:17
mcquaidyou'll probably want to increase that04:18
Cowlikekarljp: did you see how it failed?04:18
helio7karljp: where would I buy it? I don't understand the question... you mean it might _stop_ working with kernel changes or what?04:18
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anto9usCowlike: yeah, I think it has to be configured in the kernel module04:18
SeamusLPMightyF:  What problems are you having with mozplugger?  I got mine to embed totem and xpdf...04:18
mcquaidyou'll have to put the monitor timings in your xorg.conf to get a higher refresh rate04:18
karljphelio: no, you might actually get lucky and get recommended a card, and buy it, and have it actually be the same card04:18
karljpa lot of people haven't been that lucky04:18
nickrudSeamusLP, I've been using the work of a huge number of volunteers for years now, and I prostrate myself ;-)04:18
karljpand have bought the same model, which has turned out to be new (and different) hardware04:18
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karljpmcquaid: it's a laptop screen, so it's goign to stay at what it is04:19
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gurufflo :) can i get rid of lvm and evms ?04:19
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jazzkahi!04:19
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helio7karljp: oh ok, I understand.  No top 3 brands you'd recommend I'd start with?  this list is a bit daunting http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz04:19
mcquaidwell if thats its max, but 60hz bugs my eyes after awhile04:19
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Marble2how can I make this damn process stop respawning itself04:20
karljphelio: the brand is unfortunately not a good indicator :(04:20
willI just installed ubuntu 5.04 and I'm really liking it, I'm having a strang problem though. My samba file transfers are really slow...anyone have any ideas?04:20
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karljpsame brand could be various chipsets across the brand, and even within a model04:20
jazzkaI'm upgrading to hoary, and in the middle of the migration to XORG, dpkg finds an error and stop04:20
karljpit's hell out there.04:20
lexxanwhat's the opera equivalent of ctrl-l or ctrl-o in firefox/IE?04:20
jazzkawhat can I do?04:20
nickrudMightyF, you don't need mozplugger, use mozilla-plugin, it works better for movies04:20
tritiumells: hey man04:20
Parkwayback in a few04:20
Marble2killall -9 is not working04:20
Marble2anyone?04:20
nickrud*mozilla-mplayer04:20
willhas anyone had slow samba file transfers with ubuntu?04:21
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SeamusLPSpeaking of opera, has anyone else had problems with seg faults in the ubuntu build of opera 8?04:21
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usynic... and are automatically detected and set up by the ubuntu-installer04:21
karljplexxan ctrl-f2 I believe?04:22
mcquaidbrb04:22
jazzkais a good idea to remove XFREE and apt-get install Xorg?04:22
PHPWannabeHas anyone found a driver for a Lexmark z615 printer yet?04:22
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ParkwayYa know its always somethin with me heh.  I get the ALSA output and set it up to use in XMMS.  Now it cant play.04:23
karljp(you shouldn't have changed anything)04:23
MightyFnickrud, where do i get mozilla-plugin?04:23
ParkwayJust leave the output as esd?04:23
karljpwhy did they tell you to install libesd-alsa and remove libesd anyway?04:23
karljpI would have just left it as it was working04:23
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usynicParkway: what you gotta do is tell esd to use alsa, and xmms to use esd04:23
karljpwhich probably would have been already done, when it was working earlier04:24
karljpwhen he just changed xmms to use esd04:24
SeamusLPjazzka:  It may be worth a shot.  If I were you I'd keep a ubuntu hoary cd on hand and back up important data.04:24
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=== usynic has had all kinds of lock ups when esd isn't using alsa
lexxanI had to use libesd-alsa to get sound working on my other machine04:24
tritiumesd should already be using alsa04:24
ParkwayOk, I just set it back on esd in xmms and its fine.  Ill leave it heh04:24
tvonIs there a simple way to re-run the Xorg configuration that happens on install?04:24
MightyFParkway, do #3 on this and it won't matter what its on: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:24
nickrudMightyF, it's in multiverse, but you need a working mplayer, of course :)04:24
MightyFnickrud, I do04:25
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tritiumtvon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:25
MightyFnickrud, is it mozilla-plugin-vlc?04:25
SeamusLPParkway:  The problem is that esd is a sound device hog04:25
tvontritium: hrm,thanks04:25
nickrudMightyF, no mozilla-mplayer, 2.70-1ubuntu104:25
helio7usynic: do you have an SMCg card? thanks for the recommend;04:25
tvonAnyone know what the ubuntu default level of...erm... the questions that dpkg asks you... is?04:25
MightyFParkway, That link I gave you tones down esd so it doesn't hog the sound04:25
MightyFnickrud, I already have that, and it crashes firefox if i hit back.  its unstable04:26
XTCboarderdoes anybody know at what port bittorrent operates?04:26
MightyFnickrud, and i can't get mozplugger to work, grrr04:26
Parkwaylookin into it now, thanks04:26
nickrudMightyF, let me see if it crashed epiphany04:26
MightyFXTCboarder, 6881-688904:26
MightyFParkway, no problem04:26
XTCboarderthx04:26
MightyFXTCboarder, but most times you can customize it04:26
XTCboarderbut peers shoul be able to pass my firewall for downloading.....04:27
XTCboarderso i should use standard ports04:27
XTCboarderor not?04:27
nickrudMightyF, nope, no crash04:27
MightyFnickrud, oh well, silly firefox04:28
tvonXTCboarder: same ports should be NAT'd to you at your router or open on your fw or whatever04:28
MightyFnickrud, annoying though04:28
XTCboarder=)04:28
XTCboarderthx04:28
ParkwayI love Open as root :)04:28
XTCboarderOpen what?04:28
ParkwaySorry, rambling.04:28
nickrudmozplugger syntax is cruddy, good luck, I think seamus says he has his working04:29
usynichelio7: yeah, I've had both a pci and a pcmcia card04:29
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MightyFXTCboarder, you can set your ports to whatever you want, just make sure your firewall recognizes those ports as ok and that your router forwards the port to you on the inside04:29
usynichelio7: never had a problem with either.04:29
XTCboarderok04:29
MightyFnickrud, huh? syntax?  It pretty much said Install and it works04:29
XTCboarderi'll do that04:29
helio7cool; thanks usynic04:29
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Parkwayexit04:30
XTCboarderfirewall is at "here"04:30
usynichelio7: they aren't exactly cheap, though... I paid $70+ for both of them04:30
MightyFSeamusLP, you have mozplugger working?04:30
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XTCboarderso i just gotta open some stuff04:30
nickrudMightyF, /etc/mozplugerrc, and have fun, you need to match it to your software04:30
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MightyFnickrud, fun! :)04:30
SeamusLPMightyF:  You don't get nav buttons with totem, but it works04:30
skalleranyone want to help with new install?04:30
thr1ceno04:30
thr1ce:P  ask away04:30
helio7usynic: perusing http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewCategory&localeCode=EN_USA&cid=5 atm04:30
MightyFSeamusLP, I don't use Totem, Totem is evil04:31
skallerlol04:31
Marble2why can I not friggin kill gam_server, it keeps spawning on me04:31
SeamusLPMightyF:  totem-xine is fantastic.04:31
thr1ceanyone break 150 days uptime yet?04:31
usynichelio7: yeah, just check prism54.org to make sure the exact card is supported04:31
MightyFMarble2, It might be designed to respawn if it gets killed, try kill -9 <number>04:31
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skallerdoes AMD64 install image support nVidia and SATA drives?04:31
Marble2i tried kill -904:31
p0mthr1ce: On what?04:31
Marble2i tried killall04:31
Marble2i tried killall -904:32
thr1ceubuntu04:32
usynicthr1ce: http://linuxhelp.homeunix.com/uptime.html04:32
Marble2it still friggin respawns04:32
MightyFSeamusLP, totem-xine?  And it works in firefox?04:32
karljpheh, I don't know anyone using a 64bit linux that is glad they did so.04:32
MightyFMarble2, no idea then04:32
thr1ceusynic, ubuntu?04:32
usynicthr1ce: sarge04:32
karljpman, why aren't there any big 2.5" harddrives04:32
skallerubuntu04:32
SeamusLPMightyF:  Indeed.  Most sites with embedded movies work alright.04:32
karljp100gig is about the limit it seems04:32
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Quest-MasterThis is amazing04:33
MightyFSeamusLP, cool04:33
SeamusLPMightyF:  I just did apt-get install totem-xine, then downloaded the w32 codecs, and then found a good mozpluggerrc file04:33
Quest-MasterNautilus has crashed almost 3 times in the past 5 minutes04:33
SeamusLPMightyF: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17727&highlight=mozplugger04:33
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Quest-MasterI can't get anything done with a file manager this unstable.. :(04:33
Quest-MasterOk, never mind, 4th time now04:33
Cowlikealmost 3 times? what, it just kind of stuttered the 3rd time?04:33
thr1cenautilus isn't unstable04:34
MightyFSeamusLP, I just wish mplayer would work, I really like it04:34
Quest-MasterIt loves to crash whenever I right click a file04:34
thr1cefigure out what the problem is...it's NOT nautilus, otherwise none of us would be using gnome04:34
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SeamusLPQuest-Master:  Nautilus is nice, but it's hundreds of thousands of lines of undebuggable crap.  I don't think it will ever change04:34
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Quest-Masterthr1ce: You really think all of the other people using Gnome out there have a set up like mine?04:35
MightyFSeamusLP, wow, that config file you're supposed to write from SCRATCH!?!?04:35
Quest-MasterSeamusLP: Agreed04:35
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usynicSeamusLP: it changed between 2.4 and 2.6 quite a bit :(04:35
usynicer.. the other smiley04:35
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usynicIE, more than doubled in speed04:35
SeamusLPthr1ce:  I concur with Quest-Master.  Attempt to do anything "advanced" in nautilus and it may crash.04:35
thr1ceQuest-Master, no, that's why you have to tell us your problem; not just "I can't work with this unstable software"04:35
skallerlol04:36
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thr1ceright clicking is advanced?  wow...my nautilus is a TANK04:36
SeamusLPthr1ce:  Tried to view the properties of an ogg file while thumbnails were still loading up... crashed.  Random crap like that04:36
Quest-MasterWoot, crashed again..04:37
thr1cemine works04:37
thr1cewhat gnome?04:37
nickrudas much as I enjoy nautilus for general use, it does have it's moments. I've learned some things not to do.04:37
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Quest-MasterIt tends to do this after I just have the window open for along time or are quickly switching through programs04:37
Quest-Master>:04:37
Quest-MasterSo, I'm doing a "killall nautilus" almost every few minutes04:38
Quest-MasterReminiscent of Windows Explorer days04:38
nickrudQuest-Master, once every couple of weeks for me, at most04:38
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SeamusLPQuest-Master:  I've noticed that.  Usually I just click on restart nautilus and it comes right back up.  Slightly annoying.04:38
anto9usQuest-Master: do you have sound events enabled?04:38
Quest-Masteranto9us: Nope04:38
nickrudI am irritated by having to reopen the folders i was working though04:39
anto9usQuest-Master: I had trouble, been ok since I disabled sound events04:39
SeamusLPnickrud, in general I don't have a problem with it unless I'm dealing with large amounts of thumbnails or music files...04:39
nickrudSeamusLP, pretty much my experience, when I am thumbnailing a bunch of new images, I find something else to do ....04:40
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MightyFSeamusLP, firefox isn't recognizing mozplugger04:40
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XTCboarderdone04:41
XTCboarderthis linux thingie shure does rock04:41
nickrudAnd, mouseover or not, nautilus is not a music player04:41
Quest-Master... ok, I have no idea why Nautilus is doing this04:42
Quest-MasterLaunching it from a terminal now04:42
XTCboarderi've uptime of 2.3 days working with high load stuff and i still don't feel it :)04:42
Quest-MasterAnd hoping it isn't something like a simple segfault04:42
thr1celaunch it from a terminal, and find your error04:42
deangI'm trying to setup VNCServer for an account other than root.  It is simply pointing the $vncUserDir to that users home directories .vnc file?04:42
SeamusLPMightyF:  is it showing up in about:plugins?04:42
gp_aaronXTCboarder, I run a server on a low amount of hardware, 512 ram, 2.4GHz celeron, and I have had uptime striaght for 4 months now, even through 2 power outages including one last week..04:43
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MightyFSeamusLP, i didn't look, I looked for new menu items04:44
XTCboarder;D04:44
nickrudgp_aaron, lol, low hardware04:44
lexxanI'm on a 1ghz.04:44
gp_aaronbattery*04:44
dell500how do i change my root password?04:44
gp_aaronnickrud, its a celeron04:44
XTCboarderwhen i was con XP i'd have to reboot twice a day :p04:44
lexxandell50004:44
lexxan?? root04:44
dell500for some reason it's not working04:44
[uhelp] root: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:44
nickrudgp_aaron, so is mine, and it's slower than lexxan's04:44
SeamusLPMightyF:  When you use that configuration file you need to remove the .txt ... should just be mozpluggerrc04:44
XTCboarderi have a athlon xp 2000 + 256RAM33304:44
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XTCboarderon a PCChips mobo << i gotta change that04:45
lexxanI'm getting pissed off04:45
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lexxanI'm gonna go get a new cpu/mobo soon04:45
lexxandamn games are lagging04:45
MightyFSeamusLP, did it :)04:45
XTCboarderi don't play04:45
dell500well when i enter my password, it says please try again04:45
XTCboarderwhy u getting pissed lexxan ?04:45
gp_aaroni'm getting a ibook g4 with 1.256 ram04:45
SeamusLPMightyF:  also check out the about:plugins in firefox... should show up there04:45
nickrudI'm getting a new machine for the new X, I like old games04:45
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MightyFSeamusLP, yeah, it shows up in about:plugins now04:45
MightyFw00t, thanks04:46
lexxanXTCboarder, My 1ghz w/ geforce 2 can't handle unreal tournament 9904:46
nickolihey anybody wish to reccomend a good cd burning prog, k3b keeps crashing on me04:46
XTCboarderhaha04:46
lexxanSadly it runs better in windows04:46
MightyFSeamusLP, still using the mplayer plugin, i better uninstall that04:46
lexxanbut I think a hardware upgrade will be in order04:46
SeamusLPMightyF:  here's a good place to test it... http://www.apple.com/trailers/04:46
dell500nm, got it04:47
XTCboarderi bought a Nvidia tnt2 with 32 ram only for seeing the funky mac screensaver on my box04:47
XTCboarder:p04:47
lexxanlol.04:47
XTCboarderanyway it was about 10 bucks04:47
MightyFSeamusLP, was just there, lol04:47
deangnobody with vnc configuration info here?04:47
XTCboarderas i don't play, i have never worried boaut having a good video card04:47
lexxanI got a 2500+ upstairs with a tnt204:47
lexxanI dunno04:47
lexxanMaybe i should steal that box and put the gf2 in it04:47
XTCboarder:p04:48
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MightyFSeamusLP, had to uninstall it, its cool now04:48
XTCboarderi want a bigger computer :(04:48
lexxanI don't think my mom will notice since she uses firefox04:48
lexxanand that's it04:48
XTCboarder!04:48
XTCboarderthat's a waste04:48
XTCboardermy sister has a dell latitud cpi P2@400 mhz with 96 on RAM04:48
XTCboarderand she works ok with that04:48
XTCboarderon win98SE04:48
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lexxanhaha04:49
lexxanput ubuntu on it04:49
XTCboarderyo could sell both computers.. get an old dell for ur mom and buy yourself a gigabox04:49
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MightyFSeamusLP, yay, browser doesn't crash anymore04:49
XTCboarderor maybe a car :p04:49
nickrudXTCboarder, don't do that, she'll kill you04:49
XTCboarder:p04:49
lexxanI got a nice truck :/04:49
XTCboarderi ain0t doing it04:49
SeamusLPMightyF:  Cool.  So far the only problem with totam-xine I've had is with a handfull of wmvs with messed up sound.  I just download those and play them in mplayer.04:50
SeamusLPah, gone, heh.04:50
nickrudSeamusLP, so the mozpluggerrc uses totem in ubuntu?04:51
XTCboarderthe only problem i have with sound is i can't hear stuff from vcd's04:51
anto9usXTCboarder: could be a codec problem perhaps04:52
SeamusLPnickrud that particular config file does...  Maybe you could read the mozplugger man page for awhile and figure out how to use mplayer04:52
nickrudSeamusLP, I'm agnostic, I'll try anything for a lark :)04:52
nickrudAnd, I learned it once, I'm not sure I want to go through it again for a lark04:53
XTCboarderyeah......04:53
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SeamusLPwell I'm certainly not going to when totem is working just fine04:53
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SeamusLPAnd hopefully that totem / mozilla plugin will come out and we'll be able to get a progress bar04:54
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nickrudyeah, I've read a bit about that. I do kinda miss unstable already, you never know what'll show up tomorrow :)04:55
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lexxanThere's a firefox totem plugin for breezy?04:55
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nickrudno, I was wondering what the status was in debian unstable, probably not there04:56
lexxancheck! :P04:57
blujayan apt-cache search for "mozilla plugin" doesn't find anything for totem04:57
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nickrudyeah, it's still blue sky stuff, but, ircc, it's being done by cluefull people, so it'll show up someday04:58
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helio7usynic: http://prism54.org/supported_cards.php shows only one SMC pci not pcmcia card as supported; am I misinterpreting?04:58
delltonyhi anyone had any luck converting files to xvid format using mencoder i keep getting mplayer not compiled with libmp3lame and unfortunate for me i'm not good enough to know to compile mplayer with this support04:59
Quinn_Stormdelltony: the problem is ubuntu stripped mp3 support out of everything.  you would have to install a non-ubuntu mplayer or recompile ubuntu's mplayer05:00
p0mUbuntu didn't strip anything from anywhere. It was debian.05:01
delltonyok so just downoad the binaries and simply run ./configure ?05:01
Quinn_Stormdebian's core packages -do- have mp3 support05:01
Quinn_Stormubuntu's don't05:01
delltonywell any way i can get the core package then?05:01
p0mQuinn_Storm: I keep getting told that, yet I can play mp3's fine on base ubuntu.05:01
SeamusLPQuinn_Storm:  That's funny, I'm playing mp3s in mplayer right now and I haven't recompiled anything05:02
Quinn_Stormp0m: you probably installed a package you didn't know you did05:02
Quinn_StormSeamusLP: yeah you probably have the marrilat mplayer05:02
sigQuinn_Storm: yes it does05:02
sigI have a base install with no extra packages05:02
sigpure cd install with nothing else05:02
p0mQuinn_Storm: Highly unlikely, as the box wasn't even connected to the network until today.05:02
delltonyQuinn_Storm, sorry to bother but where could read about recompiling the ubuntu mplayer. i know google but really sure what to search for05:02
sigI play mp3's05:02
Quinn_Stormdelltony: I'm not sure the easiest way05:03
delltonyhard way would be fine as long as i understand or have a walk thru05:03
nickrudsig, what player?05:03
Quinn_Stormbtw, even if mplayer has mp3 decoding compiled in, mp3 encoding is a separate thing which is the libmp3lame is for05:04
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delltonyQuinn_Storm, in a nutshell if you don't mind how can i accomplish this :)05:04
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Quinn_Stormdelltony: make sure you have libmp3lame-dev installed, apt-get source mplayer, cd into it, dh_buildpackage (I think)05:05
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delltonyok let me try and thanks05:05
BLACKSTEALTHhhi05:05
BLACKSTEALTHddoes the new ubuntu live cd play wmvs?05:06
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SeamusLPblackstealth:  Highly doubt it05:06
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jacquesmerdewhy did ubuntu decide to use gstreamer?05:06
BLACKSTEALTHgah..05:06
BLACKSTEALTHhm..05:06
BLACKSTEALTHany live that does?05:06
hector_hello! nyone could help me with my usb printer permissions? Is there a way of not having to change the permissions of /dev/usb/lp0 each time I reboot in order to be able to print? If I don't do it I get a permission denied error05:06
Amaranthjacquesmerde: Because it's a part of the GNOME Desktop?05:06
BLACKSTEALTHhow about movix2?05:06
sighttp://johnvansickle.com/stuff/misc/encode.dv.xvid05:07
delltonyhmm Quinn_Storm i see a problem i see no libmp3lame in synaptic :(05:07
jacquesmerdeAmaranth: is it really? it cant be compiled without it?05:07
AmaranthBLACKSTEALTH: No Live CD will play WMV3 files. That would require the dll file from windows which is illegal to use without owning a copy of Windows that you aren't using.05:07
Quinn_Stormdelltony: ok, hang on05:07
Amaranthjacquesmerde: It might be able to but it's no reccomended, why?05:08
delltonynp05:08
Quinn_Stormtry just liblame-dev05:08
BLACKSTEALTHhm.. great ok05:08
BLACKSTEALTHthanks05:08
Amaranthjacquesmerde: It's just a layer on top of either esd, oss, or alsa.05:08
SeamusLPblackstealth:  Your best bet would be to install ubuntu on a portable harddrive or something05:08
jacquesmerdesorry, major newb question, but i've followed the "How can i share my printer on my LAN" in the ubuntu FAQ, now how do i access the printer from another linux computer? do i just edit cups stuff? does it transmit it through ipp?05:08
BLACKSTEALTHclostest thing to that is my ipod05:08
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Amaranthjacquesmerde: heh, no clue05:09
hector_anyone could help me with my printing problems, please?05:09
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speedy2782is it possible to have macos run on a pc?05:09
SeamusLPblackstealth:  heh...  You know people have put linux on an ipod...05:09
Prediusspeedy2782, using PearOS05:09
SeamusLPblackstealth:  Personally I wouldn't try it05:09
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BLACKSTEALTHsame lol05:09
speedy2782what is pearOS?05:09
BLACKSTEALTHit might fry05:09
BLACKSTEALTHthanks05:09
BLACKSTEALTHgood night all05:09
Amaranthspeedy2782: Only with emulation with PearPC. It runs 10-40x slower than a low-end mac though. And that's only if you have a fast x86 machine.05:09
benplautwoohoo! just converted another person to Ubuntu :)05:09
jacquesmerdeAmaranth: i have no clue either. i go to all the trouble of de-n00bing myself, but i completely forgot to learn about printing05:10
Amaranthjacquesmerde: I can't print either. :)05:10
nickrudhector_, if /dev/usb/lp0 is getting wrong permissions, it's probably a bug. check bugzilla.ubuntu.com and search for cups and see if someone lese has the problem05:10
speedy2782I have a 2.0 celeron laptop with 128 ram and shared video05:10
speedy2782using ubuntu05:10
speedy2782what are the chances that it would work at all05:10
speedy278210-40 times slower05:10
hector_nickrud thanks, I'll do that right now05:10
Quinn_Stormlooking up now the -exact- commands for recompiling05:10
Amaranthspeedy2782: It wouldn't work. At all.05:10
speedy2782that sucks05:10
Naliothspeedy2782, it is a PowerPC emulator for you to use05:11
Amaranthspeedy2782: You need to feed it at _least_ 256MB dedicated to PearPC (you need 384MB or more).05:11
Cowlikecan you install ubuntu without X? don't recall the install giving me that option05:11
speedy2782would it run on my 3.2 1gig05:11
g14Cowlike: the server install is the minimal install without x05:11
Amaranthspeedy2782: PearPC will never be able to emulate a Mac good enough to make running OS X all the time usable.05:11
nickrudCowlike, use the server install05:11
Cowlikethx05:12
gp_aaronAmaranth, no but cherryOS will </sarcasm>05:12
nickrudhector_, you still there?05:12
delltonyQuinn_Storm, thanks05:12
hector_nickrud yes05:12
SeamusLPAmaranth:  Whats the address to your website?  I lost it yet again05:12
nickrudhector_, search also under udev on bugzilla05:12
Naliothspeedy2782, it does not run fast on any machine at this time05:12
speedy2782is there any desktop environments on linux the are close to macos x05:12
AmaranthSeamusLP: http://www.realistanew.com05:12
hector_nickrud I'll do, thanks05:13
jacquesmerdecrikey, i can find info on getting OSFOO to print to the linux cups printer, for all os's EXCEPT linux05:13
SeamusLPAmaranth:  Aha, new menu editor.  Looks great.05:13
nickrudhector_, it's easy to point someone at a bug list :)05:13
Amaranthspeedy2782: No, not really. If you've used OS X you know it's more than just a look. It's all the little details.05:13
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Naliothgp_aaron, yes, i would like to buy a box of CherryOS, the one with the free terabit network card free inside05:13
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Amaranthspeedy2782: GNOME is actually the closest, believe it or not.05:14
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speedy2782I would really like the dockbar on gnome05:14
speedy2782but I can't seem to find one...and get it to work05:14
ksnyderi can't mount my cdrom drive when i try to do it like it says in the ubuntu guide i get the following error05:14
ksnyderksnyder@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide05:14
ksnydermount: /dev/scd0 is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)05:14
gp_aaronNalioth, and they use anti-aging pills as packaging foam05:14
PrediusAmaranth, the deal with OSX is the fact that it has perfect compability with its hardware05:15
Prediusand the look, too05:15
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AmaranthPredius: Not even that. Have you ever used OS X and iLife?05:15
gp_aarondoes anyone know how to add items to the computer:/// area?05:16
AmaranthPredius: It could look like total shit and I'd still want to use it because of the details.05:16
gp_aaroniLife is drool worth05:16
stryderjzwHi everyone, I was wondering if anyone can help me diagnose a problem05:16
gp_aarony05:16
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ksnydercan anyone help me with my cd rom drive? i'm trying to upgrade to hoary, and when i put the cd in it just keeps making a clicking noise and never does anything05:17
hector_nickrud I found the bug reported as http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1003705:17
hector_nickrud no answer05:17
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Quinn_Stormhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=111204 - adapt the info here to rebuild mplayer05:17
ksnyderwhen i boot it, it hangs at the sony screen and the cdrom makes a noise like it's trying to read it, but it justs loads as usual after about a minute05:17
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SiRrUshello05:18
karljpanyone know how to override reply-to and actually reply to the original sender in tbird?05:18
Naliothi like using OSX cuz when i plug in a new firewire/usb device, it doesnt ask for drivers or nothing, "It Just Works(tm)"05:19
karljpthe reply to is set to a list address, and I don't want to reply to the list05:19
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karljpbut "reply to sender only" still obeys the reply-to header05:19
delltonyok going to look now and i get an error when doing the apt-get source mplayer-58605:19
stryderjzwMy Ubuntu won't boot all of a sudden and before it gets to login screen, it freezes and now it jumps between tty1 and tty705:19
nickrudhector_, udev controls permissions on dynamic devices, look there too, there may be a fix05:19
Quinn_Stormdelltony: try just apt-get source mplayer05:19
Edganstryderjzw: X problems05:19
Edganstryderjzw: you install nvidia or ati binary drivers?05:20
delltonyi did that as well05:20
Quinn_Stormdelltony: not sure then05:20
stryderjzwEdgan: I just did a shutdown yesterday05:20
stryderjzwEdgan: it was normal05:20
gp_aaronLinux will always be my server OS05:20
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delltonydelltony@bubbabox:~$ sudo apt-get source mplayer05:20
delltonyReading package lists... Done05:20
delltonyBuilding dependency tree... Done05:20
delltonyE: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_deb_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)05:20
delltonydelltony@bubbabox:~$05:20
gp_aaronI had bad luck with panther server05:20
IIIEarsuhelper - nvidia video card?05:20
Edganstryderjzw: that doesn't mean much05:20
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Quinn_Stormdelltony: you need to apt-get update05:20
p0mdelltony: Might want to update your lists :)05:20
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joshua___Does hoary change firefox's font, or did I do something?05:21
delltonywith the update?05:21
delltonyas in apt-get update05:21
joshua___Doesn't make sense to change user preferences if it was the upgrade, imo05:21
helio7what's the advantage of a wifi card that's a/b/g vs b/g? does anyone need a?05:21
stryderjzwEdgan: Is there logs I can see to check wut's wrong?05:21
Edganstryderjzw: maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:21
delltonysame thing after running apt-get update05:21
stryderjzwEdgan: I can access recovery mode... so there's a good sign05:22
benplauthelio7: not really, but ABG cards usually excell in other areas, aswell... higher class models05:22
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NaliothAmaranth, you are a prince among men.05:22
benplauthelio7: IBM Atheros ABG?05:22
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AmaranthNalioth: ?05:22
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helio7benplaut: http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewProduct&localeCode=EN_USA&cid=5&scid=&pid=30005:22
NaliothAmaranth, just accept the compliement gracefully05:22
delltonyFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release  Unable to find expected entry  deb/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)05:23
delltony when i do apt-get update05:23
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nickruddelltony, you're using synaptic, right?05:23
delltonyi use apt-get install and or synaptic but yes05:23
hector_nickrud no fix found under udev05:23
delltonymostly apt05:23
stryderjzwEdgan: I don't see much in the logs05:24
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ritalinhello05:24
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agneshey all!!05:24
Marble2what switches can I use in ps to view memory usage05:25
angel12how do i update warty to hoary?05:25
benplauthelio7: for cardbus, the most important thing is to have native linux support, so if you're only buying now, look for that first; ndiswrapper is a hassle05:25
ritalinIs it possible to get java on ppc? The wiki only has instructions for x8605:25
ritalin?05:25
nickruddelltony, it looks like, from the error, that you've added a new repository05:25
nowenThe gnome desktop doesn't align the icons very well... is there a way to fix this? there is a lot of overlapping.. and no proper grid..05:25
Marble2angel12: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, change every instance of warty to hoary05:25
agnesI have a quick question.. I had successfully set up pppoeconf, but now I'm moving the pppoe-login off to my wireless router.. how do I *disable* pppoeconf and restore my network card to dhcp?05:25
Quinn_Stormagnes: if you had to apt-get install it...try just apt-get removing it05:26
Naliothritalin, i wish you the best of luck at getting java on PPC05:26
nickruddelltony, and haven't apt-get update , so it's saying it should have that file (from the repository) but it doesn't05:26
helio7yeah ben, thanks googling that a-g model vs the g model returns far fewer hits; though neither is listed at prism54.org I found one tutorial for enabling in debian for the g model; thanks.05:26
delltonyi have done apt-get update05:26
agnesQuinn_Storm: Actually, I didn't apt-get install pppoe.. however, I would still rather not do that, since I may someday need pppoe, no?05:26
Naliothritalin, there is a wiki for java on PPC at the site05:26
delltonymaybe my sources.list is not right05:26
Quinn_Stormagnes: yeah you're right05:26
speedy2782Chat room Poll! are there any desktop viewers...or GUI...that are out there besides gnome that are worth giving a try?05:26
nickruddelltony, that's where I would look05:26
benplauthelio7: good luck! i have never had very good luck with wifi on any OS :^S05:26
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delltonyyou mind posting your source list to a pastebin so i can have a look?05:26
Marble2what switches can I use in ps to view memory usage05:27
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nickruddelltony, np05:27
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agnesQuinn_Storm: so, is there a way to restore it?05:27
hector_nickrud I'm back sorry05:27
Quinn_Stormagnes: I've never used pppoe05:27
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agnesQuinn_Storm: It occurs to me that this is the sort of thing that a good central ubuntu tool would do : )05:28
QMarioWhy isn't the user field given when trying to connect to a Linux computer on the network using Windows?05:28
ritalinNalioth: linky?05:28
agnesQuinn_Storm: how does one "configure" an interface?05:28
Quinn_Stormagnes: in /etc/network/interfaces, I think05:28
hector_nickrud did you post anything after I said that I couldn't find a bug under dev?05:28
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agnesQuinn_Storm: there isn't a tool to do it?05:28
Quinn_Stormagnes: I don't know05:28
hector_nickrud udev05:28
nickrudhector_, not yet. yeah, udev :)05:28
agnesanyone else know if ubuntu has a good tool to configure a network interface?05:29
speedy2782What is Cairo?05:29
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nickrudhector_, what I know about udev you could write on the head of a pin05:29
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hector_nickrud lol05:29
Edganagnes: check the menus, it is there05:29
nickrudthere are files you can edit to fix the permission problem, but I've only looked at them, not messed with them05:29
QMarioIs anyone listening?05:29
agnesedgan: any hints?05:29
hector_nickrud well... maybe someone else knows about this bug05:30
delltonynickrud, you gotta chance to post your sources.list yet?05:30
Edganagnes: the third menu, under system something05:30
agnesEdgan: I'm in Kubuntu, so maybe that makes things different.. I see nothing obvious..05:30
hector_nickrud thanks anyway... I'll keep trying05:30
Edganagnes: I figured you were going to say that. That puts you on your own.05:30
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agnesEdgan: well, what's the utility?05:31
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ShadowRageokay, um05:31
agnesother than "in the third menu" : )05:31
ShadowRagedist-upgrade is failing05:31
agnesI could probably apt-get it..05:31
CowlikeQMario: connect how?05:31
Edganagnes: I don't have ubuntu in front of me to tell you05:31
nickrudhttp://pastebin.com/278927 , delltony05:31
helio7agnes are you in #kubuntu as well?05:31
agnesEdgan: alright, thanks..05:31
delltonyagnes there is a way to do network under control panel in kde but it doesn't work worth a damn05:31
agneshelio7: nope05:31
nickrudthe security line is a bit optomistic, but05:31
delltonyits network settings in the control panel05:31
ShadowRagedpkg: error processing /cdrom//pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):05:31
ShadowRage trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libnkgnomevfs.so', which is also in package mozilla-firefox05:31
ShadowRagedpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)05:31
stryderjzwEdgan: I was wondering if you can help me debug this... I'm totally lost05:32
Naliothritalin use your google...hint ---->  java ppc site:ubuntulinux.org05:32
speedy2782I am interested in the Cairo. What is required to install it- other than cairo?05:32
hector_other question: anyone here using Smeg 0.5?05:32
QMarioCowlike, When I try to connect to my Ubuntu computer over the network using my Windows XP computer the username box is grayed out.05:32
anto9uswell, I've backed up my important stuff, I'm about to install ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 9100, any last minute tips from you guys?05:32
delltonyeasiest way honestly is to edit your /etc/network/interfaces file agnes05:32
ritalinjava ppc site:ubuntulinux.org05:32
delltonyand nickrud thanks will go look05:32
ritalindoh05:32
Edganstryderjzw: try stopping X and then try startx05:32
CowlikeQMario, using samba?05:33
ritalinNalioth: cheers, ty05:33
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agnesdell: not the friendliest path though.. there must be some ubuntu/kubuntu tool05:33
delltonydang nickrud you have no deb-src 's in there at all05:33
nickruddelltony, just repeat the deb line and head it with deb-src05:33
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Cowlikeanto9us, it will work. you'll have to tweak a few things but it will work05:33
stryderjzwEdgan: how do I stop X?  it keeps jumping around05:34
benplautspeedy2782: i would love to get cairo working... candy galore!05:34
agnesthere's no kubuntu equivalent for "drakconf" or "yast" or the like?05:34
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nowenThe gnome desktop doesn't align the icons very well... is there a way to fix this? there is a lot of overlapping.. and no proper grid..05:34
anto9usCowlike: any preperations for tweaking I should make now do you think?05:34
Cowlikeanto9us, not really. my inspiron 8200 just worked. including the wireless adapter05:35
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Edganstryderjzw: try rescue mode and then start xfs, then startx05:35
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anto9usCowlike: your wifi isn't a 1450 I would guess, is it?05:35
stryderjzwEdgan: kk, I'll go try that05:36
Cowlikeit's a cardbus card05:36
speedy2782benplaut:what is needed to get it working?05:36
agneshmmm.05:36
agneshow did ubuntu install my network card when I installed it, then?05:36
anto9usok, I know mine will work with ndiswrapper anyway, I'll use eth0 for setup05:37
benplautspeedy2782: i dunno... i'm also trying to figure it out05:37
speedy2782do you have X installed?05:37
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oasiaoahhh05:37
anto9ussee you all later and thanks for the tips05:38
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stryderjzwEdgan: ok... how do I start xfs?05:38
ShadowRagecan anyone fucking HELP me?05:38
Edganstryderjzw: /etc/init.d/xfs start  maybe05:38
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ShadowRagemozilla won't install05:39
HrdwrBoBhrm05:39
ShadowRagethus fucking up the whole hoary install05:39
ShadowRageall over some fucking trivial thing05:39
HrdwrBoBanyone has cpu throttling working on a dual opteron?05:39
bob2ShadowRage: stop it05:39
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jsgotangcostop the F word05:39
delltonynickrud, this is working thanks question though you happen to know where i can find the libmp3lame source or whatever?05:39
ShadowRagebob2: why is mozilla refusing to install during a dist-upgrade?05:40
ShadowRagebob2: I even disabled all online repositories05:40
NaliothShadowRage, do you have unorthodox repos in your sources.list?05:40
nickruddeltony, you were trying to do something with mplayer, or am I confused05:40
delltonyi am05:40
bob2ShadowRage: I have no idea05:40
ShadowRageNalioth: nope, I only have the cdrom rep on05:40
stryderjzwEdgan: I can't seem to find xfs... wut is it?05:40
bob2ShadowRage: but swearing will not help05:40
bob2ShadowRage: did you ever use "backports"?05:40
ShadowRagedpkg: error processing /cdrom//pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):05:40
ShadowRage trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libnkgnomevfs.so', which is also in package mozilla-firefox05:40
delltonyi'm trying to compile it with libmp3lame support so i can use it in conjuction with mencoder05:41
nickruddelltony, compile, right?05:41
ShadowRagethat's the error05:41
Edganstryderjzw: the font server05:41
stryderjzwEdgan: o, X font server... makes sense05:41
bob2ShadowRage: did you ever use backports or not?05:41
ShadowRagenope05:41
bob2if so, you get to keep both pieces05:41
nowenHow can I make "open with" selection, permanent?05:41
bob2then just put firefox on hold in aptitude or synaptic05:42
bob2and continue the update05:42
nickruddelltony, did you notice I have no sources in my sources.list (pun intended)05:42
ShadowRagebob2: what are backports?05:42
bob2ShadowRage: nevermind05:42
ShadowRagek05:42
bob2and even if you are frustrated, swearing here again will get you banned, not helped05:43
nickruddelltony, but with those repositories, do an apt-cache search lame | grep lame05:43
ShadowRagebob2: I'll disable firefox atm05:43
delltonynick yes i did05:43
bob2ShadowRage: no, put it on hold05:43
stryderjzwEdgan: I can't find xfs... hmmmmmmm05:43
delltonyi added the deb-src to that and i stated that very thing to you05:43
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ShadowRagetoo late, damn05:44
ShadowRagebob2: I can continue it later, right?05:44
bob2ShadowRage: I have no idea what you've done now05:44
ShadowRageI simply unmarked bob205:44
ShadowRageer05:44
ShadowRageI simply unmarked firefox05:44
ShadowRagefor now05:44
agneshmmm. what package is "network-admin" in?05:44
agnesor how could I find out?05:44
nickruddelltony, no offence, but there are two things I never do: networking and compiling, because nearly everyone knows more than i do ;)05:44
ShadowRageI'll reinstall it later when there's a less chance of it being bitchy05:45
ShadowRageer, sorry05:45
delltonygotta start somwhere man05:45
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delltonyi have done compiles and all before just wasn't sure how to do it on debian done it on gentoo and all many of times05:46
delltonyin any case i believe i need this liblame-dev - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder05:46
stryderjzwhey, i'm in GRUB and how do I make it text-mode boot?  i forgot05:46
bob2delltony: what are you trying to do?05:46
bob2stryderjzw: you can't, easily05:47
lexxanI didn't know grub had a gui thingy05:47
bob2stryderjzw: unless you mean single-user mode?05:47
lexxanYou mean no menus??05:47
stryderjzwyeah05:47
bob2lexxan: he/she presumably means "boot ubuntu without X"05:47
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bob2stryderjzw: then append 1 to the kernel command line05:47
ShadowRagebob2: does that sound alright?05:47
stryderjzwthx bob205:48
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ShadowRagebob2: I unmarked it for upgrades at the moment05:48
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ShadowRagebob2: it's conflicting05:48
bob2ShadowRage: I don't know what that means, I've never used synaptic05:48
bob2ShadowRage: if it means "hold this version", then that's fine05:48
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ShadowRageit means, "dont upgrade, dont bother"05:48
dazzednp: 311 - Light Years at 128kbps [0:09 of 2:28] 05:48
agnes*cough*.. any leads on which package network-admin is in?05:48
ShadowRageand OW, my head.05:49
crimsunagnes: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=network-admin&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i38605:49
delltonybob2, trying to in a nutshell get mencoder to work so i can convert some of my "yes i bought them" dvds to xvid see i do alot of traveling and its a pain to lug around a bunch of dvds and all where i could make a dvd of say 4 dvds in xvid and cut down on space05:49
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agnescrimsun: thank you so much05:49
delltonybut i need to recompile mplayer for libmp3lame support and the alike05:50
bob2dazzed: please turn that off05:50
stryderjzwdoes X stop booting by iteself often?  man, this is frustrating.  I really need the computer tonite05:50
bob2delltony: you don't need to compile anything for tihs05:50
delltonycool now you tell me :)05:50
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dazzedbob2: i was just testing something dont get your panties in a bunch :)05:50
bodaciousbhow do i make sure im not running a default firewall?05:51
bob2bodaciousb: there is no default firewall05:51
bodaciousbbob2, allrighty then05:51
lexxanDoes warcraft 3 run on linux05:51
bob2lexxan: perhaps in winex05:51
bob2lexxan: ask transgaming.com05:51
delltonybob2, if you don't mind a good tutorial on this would be benifical. only thing i have found with a google search is a gentoo howto and i keep getting mplayer not compiled with libmp3lame support when i do as the guide states05:51
bob2dazzed: make sure it doesn't happen again05:51
dazzedbob2: calm down...its no big deal...its just an IRC chat05:52
bob2delltony: my mplayer is compiled with lame support05:52
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bob2dazzed: blah blah blah05:52
delltonyfor encoding?05:52
dazzedbob2: you all of a sudden turned soooo particular lately...05:52
bob2because this channel is getting worse and worse05:53
stryderjzwman, linux can't be this hard05:53
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gardionAnyone know if an "enterprise edition" of unbuntu will ever come out?  Ie specialized towards servers?05:53
dazzedbob2: its fine...people come in and ask questions and the regulars stay...no prob if i advertised a song in here05:53
dazzedone time05:53
dazzed:)05:53
bob2gardion: Ubuntu as it stands is an excellent server system05:53
dazzedbob2: currently ... hoary is excellent server system?05:53
Edganbob2: It needs a little more work to be an excellent server system05:53
lexxanIf you select server when you install it.. no desktop crap installed.. why not05:54
bob2dazzed: indeed05:54
bob2Edgan: e.g.?05:54
dazzedbob2: do you read the forums ever?05:54
pztakis there a mytunes/ourtunes equivalent for linux?05:54
bob2dazzed: hell no05:54
gardionbob2: Well, What I'd like to see a more integrated server system.  ie a common authentication for samba, nfs, and opengroupware05:54
bob2pztak: best to explain what it is...05:54
dazzedbob2: you probably should read server seection05:54
lexxanthough I'd be using freebsd anyway :P05:54
Edganbob2: software raid support only being 3/4 done05:54
bob2gardion: you mean you want gui wizards?05:54
gardionbob2: That would be nice as well.05:54
bob2dazzed: from my random sampling of the forums, very little of use gets discussed05:54
delltony77 audio & 188 video codecs05:54
delltonyFile not found: 'frameno.avi'05:54
delltonyFailed to open frameno.avi05:54
delltonyMPlayer was compiled without libmp3lame support i'm confused bob205:54
Edganbob2: A few more server packages could be in main, like squirrelmail05:55
pztaksorry, its a program that lets you access itunes music that is shared on the network.. search all of the files, and download whichever ones you want05:55
gardionBut the main work is getting everything to work together.05:55
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gardionbut wizzards are nice.05:55
dazzedbob2: ok...but my oppinion is that ubuntu has the opporitunity to be an excellent server system....def. not tehre yet05:55
_agneshmmm..05:55
bob2Edgan: it's horribly insecure, I doubt that will ever happen05:55
_agnesOK, last question.. how do I disable a service?\05:55
Edganbob2: What would you suggest?05:55
bob2dazzed: then please discuss it in a place people with clue hang out, like the mailing lists05:55
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bob2Edgan: I don't know of any non-crap webmail systems05:55
QMarioCowlike, yes I'm using Samba05:55
dazzedbob2: im just saying...you cant say that if its not05:56
bob2dazzed: yes, I can05:56
dazzedbob2: but if you believe it05:56
Edganbob2: webmail is a must05:56
dazzedthen go for it05:56
bob2ubuntu is working amazingly well on my mail/web server05:56
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bob2perhaps because I know how to admin a unix machine05:56
dazzedbob2: it just makes you look like a fool :)05:56
Edganhaha05:56
bob2it seems you guys are saying it needs to be easier, not better05:56
dazzednot saying that you do05:56
bob2jesus, be quiet05:56
FunnyLookinHatanyone know why Totem and VLC both can't seem to play a .wmv?05:56
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bcowanthere any rsync servers with the warty iso on them?05:56
dazzeddont make stupid comments then05:57
bob2FunnyLookinHat: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:57
lexxanFunnyLookinHat, You got w32codecs installed?05:57
bob2dazzed: don't be such a gimp05:57
bob2bcowan: yeah, cdimage.ubuntu.com05:57
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dazzedonly towards people that have no courtesey05:57
QMarioCowlike?05:57
FunnyLookinHatlexxan, most likely not...05:57
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gp_aaronFunnyLookinHat, ususally that is a sign that it is a unsupported wmv, for me some work, some dont05:57
bcowanthanks bob205:57
lexxanGoto that link he just said05:57
revelateris there any video editing software in synaptic?05:57
gp_aaronkino05:57
CowlikeQMario: sorry, was in other channel. i'm afraid i don't know the answer. not a samba guru05:58
revelaterkino?05:58
gp_aaronyes05:58
benplaut:gp_05:58
Cowliketry joining #samba05:58
benplautwoops05:58
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benplautnever mind05:58
gp_aaronnever used it but I hear it is a fairly good video editer05:58
lexxanbob2, Do you know the locations where I can edit my gnome menu?05:58
bob2lexxan: no05:59
revelatercan it hadle avi also?05:59
p0mlexxan: applications:///05:59
revelaterohh05:59
bob2delltony: get marillat's mplayer05:59
bob2delltony: or just use thoggen05:59
lexxanp0m, Doesn't do anything for me ;/05:59
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p0mErr, take away the last /05:59
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charlescan i get a copy of nigger linux too?05:59
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lexxantwo doesn't work for me :(05:59
gp_aaronp0m, do you know how to add items to computer:///06:00
charlesI WANT NIGGER LINUX!!!!06:00
charlesI WANT NIGGER LINUX!!!!06:00
charlesI WANT NIGGER LINUX!!!!06:00
p0mlexxan: What version of Ubuntu are you running?06:00
charlesme?06:00
fsapowth?06:00
p0mgp_aaron: No, sorry.06:00
lexxanp0m, 5.0406:00
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Naliothhow misguided06:00
revelatercharles: it may be a while befor nigger linux is realesed06:00
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charleslol06:00
charlesthis is nigger linux06:00
Naliothperhaps charles already uses it06:01
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p0mlexxan: There's a post on the forum about a program to do it, give me a second, I'll find it.06:01
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bob2nickoli: my apologies06:01
revelaternever herd of nigger linux.. is it all black? :P06:01
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lexxanp0m, I know that program.. It doesn't list the entry i need to remove :(06:01
bob2enough06:01
nickolibob2 so whats a good prog06:01
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bob2nickoli: for what?06:01
lexxanEnemy Territory put an "other" category on my menu =[06:01
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nickolibob2 cd buringing k3b keeps crashing on me06:02
killapopraghu: hi06:02
lexxanI just wish i could right click and delete ;/06:02
bob2nickoli: nautilus works fine for me06:02
p0mlexxan: Strange.06:02
nickolibob2 i cant get that to do audio cds06:02
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Naliothlexxan see or google the ubuntu wiki for "gnome menu editor"06:02
bob2nickoli: oh well06:02
gp_aaronlexxan, wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb06:02
gp_aaronsudo dpkg -i smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb06:02
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bob2I wouldn't be downloading .debs from random people on IRC06:03
Naliothlexxan, there are links to several (all developemental)06:03
Naliothbob2 i second that motion06:03
gp_aaronits from ubuntuguide.org06:03
msaccoEvening all.06:03
revelaterwhat about audio editors?06:03
bob2yes, I wouldn't download packages from ubuntuguide either06:03
gp_aaronI just copied the exact post06:03
Naliothrevelater, audacity?06:03
bob2nor ubuntuforums06:03
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bob2revelater: sweep is nice, too06:03
gp_aaronit is the gnome menu editor06:03
gp_aaronworks fine for me06:03
revelaterNalioth, can audacity splice?06:03
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Naliothrevelater, yes06:03
Naliothrevelater, audacity.sourceforge.net06:04
bob2gp_aaron: how would you know if it had installed a ssh server on a high port on your machine?06:04
benplautrelevator: search ubuntuforums for instructions to get it to work- it's a bit finicky06:04
bob2gp_aaron: or if it had emailed your password to someone in new zealand?06:04
revelaterNalioth, can i synaptic it?06:04
Naliothrevelater, not sure, i havent tried06:04
benplautrelevater: yes06:04
msaccoI'm seeking help installing ubuntu on a mac.  Anyone care to lend a hand?06:05
Naliothmsacco, mac user here06:05
gp_aaronbob2, personally on the box I installed it on, it really doens't matter, and second I changed my password weekly06:05
bob2gp_aaron: that doesn't help if your machine has been compromised06:05
bob2msacco: best to just ask your question06:05
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msaccoNalioth: I bought a second harddrive, used the Guided partition to use the whole drive, but the computer just keeps booting into osx.06:06
lexxangp_aaron, That works fine except it doesn't display the "other" menu I have.06:06
gp_aaronoh06:06
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msaccohitting option key on boot shows the other drive (penguin icon).06:06
gp_aaronsorry I dont know then06:06
Naliothmsacco can you hold the "alt-option" key upon power up for the open firmware boot menu?06:07
lexxanbob2, Can you ban ppl from #ubuntu-doc ? charles is in there now.06:07
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msaccoI click on it, see the yaboot menu (I'm assuming l for linux, x for mac), but hitting l just takes me to the hard drive icons again06:07
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gijoshI upgraded to hoary.  How do I go back to warty's gnome theme?  Also, how do I go back to the old font?06:07
Naliothmsacco, what kind of mac are we talkin about?06:07
msaccopower g506:07
bob2lexxan: I can't, unfortunately, but I'm trying to find someone who can06:08
lexxanbob2, thanks06:08
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Hueyhow do i see what files a particular package touched/added/06:08
Huey?06:08
bob2dpkg -L packagename06:08
lexxanHuey, Synaptic or dpkg -L06:08
Naliothmsacco, so when you power up and hold the alt-option key, you see the bootable images of all your system, you clik the penguin and then click "l" and it takes you back to the alt-option boot screen?06:08
msaccook, held option, see two hdd icons, one for mac, one for linux06:09
msaccoyes06:09
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msaccoonly the graphics look weird, like the bit depth drops from 24 to 8 or something06:09
Naliothmsacco, and when u click the penguin, it takes you back to open firmware..06:09
msaccoclick on penguin, see First Stage Ubuntu text menu06:10
msaccoenter "l", back to two hdd icons06:10
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Naliothmsacco, that is weird06:10
Naliothi've never heard of yaboot sending you back to open firmware06:10
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msacco:) I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so!  I tried a ubuntu disk and a kubuntu disk, so I don't think the install is messed up.06:11
bob2it could do that if you broke the yaboot setup06:11
Naliothperhaps a boot from the live ubuntu ppc disk, a quick look at your yaboot.conf and see wtf?06:11
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msaccoI never got to set it up though?  How do I access the yaboot.conf file, isn't it on the linux part?06:11
fsaposomebody could help me please? i m stuck here trying to install transcode.. i get this: Depends: libvorbis0 (>= 1.0rc3-1) but it is not installable06:12
krazeivanhave a quick question06:12
fsapoany ideas?06:12
Naliothmsacco, you'll need to boot from a live ppc ubuntu disk06:12
msaccogot one.  one sec06:12
Naliothfsapo, are your repositories in order?06:12
krazeivanfollowing the wiki on ndiswrapper but i have AMD64 and when im doing make deb i get this error06:13
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krazeivandpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)06:13
fsapoNalioth, i think so06:13
msaccobooting...06:13
krazeivanand returns error 206:13
gp_aaronnite all06:13
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gp_aaronopps wrong one06:13
krazeivanwhere can i change the build arch?06:13
Naliothfsapo, you may have to have apt build the libvorbis0 from source06:13
tractorif I have a .deb file, how can I install it?06:14
msaccook, boot prompt06:14
fsapoNalioth, how do i do it?06:14
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fsapotractor, dpkg -i file.deb06:14
Naliothfsapo "man apt-get" read about building from source06:14
angel12has anyone here gotten an orinoco wifi card working in hoary? i am going to follow whats in the wiki when my upgrade is finished (warty to hoary)06:14
revelateri need to make a link to a directory, how doi  do it, it isn't letting me...06:14
bob2krazeivan: ... you can't install i386 packages on amd6406:14
tractorfsapo, thank you06:14
krazeivanright06:14
krazeivanits source06:14
bob2krazeivan: er06:14
krazeivantrying to build06:14
bob2krazeivan: you know you'll need a 64-bit windows ndis driver, right?06:15
krazeivanyeah06:15
krazeivansawthem on the forums06:15
bob2ouch06:15
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bob2so, why are you building it at all?06:15
revelaterhow do i create a link to a directory?06:15
krazeivani cant find a amd64 prebuild06:15
lexxanln -s06:15
bob2revelater: you can only make symlinks, ln -s06:15
Naliothrevelater, "man ln"06:15
msacconow..I saw something online along the likes of "cd-linux kernel=/dev/<disk>"?06:15
revelaterln -s gives me a file06:16
Naliothy'all don't pass out fish, teach these folks TO fish06:16
bob2revelater: it makes a symlink06:16
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bob2krazeivan: edit debian/control, change 'Architecture: i386' to 'Architecture: any'06:16
helio7has anyone successfully updated gpg to v1.4.1 ?06:16
bwbhey.. having problems configuring a simple samba file server....06:16
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bwbjust want users to be able to login under their unix user names (tho I06:16
bwb          did add entries with smbpasswd)06:16
Naliothlinux is all about learning06:16
Niteriderhello06:16
bwband access shares06:16
krazeivanah!06:16
krazeivanthnks :)06:16
bwbfrom a windows xp client it prompts for username/passwd06:16
bwbbut just says share is inacessible06:16
bwb even if it is a root (browseing?) path (ie \\bree)06:16
bwbany ideas?06:16
lexxanbwb, You have to setup the conf properly..06:16
Niteriderwhat repo do i add to get a jre in hoary06:16
lexxanbwb.. lemme get link06:17
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Naliothmsacco, how we doin?06:17
krazeivandamn06:17
krazeivansame thing06:17
msaccoI'm at boot06:17
Nalioth?? restricted06:17
[uhelp] restricted: To find out more about java, dvd playing, codecs etc. see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:17
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krazeivandoes make deb rewrite the file?06:17
NaliothNiterider, see what uhelp said above06:17
msaccofans are starting to go crazy06:17
Niteriderk  ty06:17
bwblexxan: k... this is actually on a debian (testing) server... but figured ubuntu ppl might know06:17
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bwblexxan: I've read through the samba 3 howto (the official one) and couldnt' find anything06:18
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lexxanbwb, you could always install swat heh06:18
Naliothmsacco, when you achieve takeoff speed , we'll be watching06:18
bwblexxan: swat?06:18
lexxanweb config06:18
lexxanjust apt-get it and browse to localhost:90106:18
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msaccoNalioth: so what do I type at boot: prompt?06:19
ParkwayAnyone know why I would get a "bash: cvs: command not found" with the following "cvs -d `pwd`/CVS co at76c503a" ?06:19
bwblexxan: k i'll try that, thanks06:19
krazeivanyou need to install cvs06:19
bwblexxan: any idea offhand tho.. it's pretty weird06:19
krazeivanor its not in your path06:19
Predius#apt-get install cvs06:19
Parkwayhrmm ok06:19
lexxanbwb, It's just a setting in ur config i'm pretty sure06:19
lexxan/etc/samba/smb.conf06:19
fsapodamit i cant install this shit :(06:20
lexxan[homes] 06:20
lexxan       comment = Home Directories06:20
lexxan       browseable = yes06:20
lexxanyou need something like that06:20
bob2fsapo: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood06:20
bob2fsapo: if you're trying to use backports or marillat's archive, it probably won't work06:20
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lexxanWhat are you installing fsapo?06:20
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fsapobob2, i have the libvorbis installed06:20
fsapolexxan, transcode06:21
lexxangod i love my new intellimouse06:21
revelaternothing i do is creating a link with directorys06:21
bob2fsapo: that's not the point06:21
bob2fsapo: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood06:21
ParkwayDanke Krazeivan and Predius!06:21
fsapobob2, but it says that my versin dont match the requirements or something like it06:21
bob2revelater: what are you *really* trying to do?06:21
Naliothmsacco, sorry but i dont know the exact details, but you'll need to mount your HD with linux on it as read and write06:21
krazeivanyw :)06:21
bob2fsapo: yes, I know.  stop ignoring what I'm saying and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood.06:21
msaccoI typed rescue-power406:21
bob2fsapo: no one can help you until you do.06:21
bob2msacco: you do not have a power4.06:21
msaccoit's loading kernel now06:21
Naliothmsacco, that may not work due to permissions, so you may have to chroot to your HD linux06:21
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bob2unless you have a g506:21
revelaterbob2: i have a folder that has all of my music files, but it is in a hidden folder, and i do not want to move it, so i must link it so other programs can easily see it06:22
msaccoI have a G506:22
bob2revelater: "hidden folder"?06:22
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revelaterwith the . in front06:22
bob2revelater: ln -s /path/to/music/dir/ ~/music/06:22
fsapobob2, i just commented the hoary lines but i cant install the libvordbis package anyway06:22
Naliothbob2 i'm the one with the ancient G3 iBook   :)06:22
a_monkeyanyone mac os x'ers here use missingmediaburner to burn their install cd?06:22
bob2fsapo: you're doing it wrong06:23
bob2fsapo: commend out the two bottom lines, uncomment the top two06:23
Naliotha_monkey, i never found it to work06:23
fsapobob2, ok.. but i already have the ubuntu version for the libvorbis06:23
bob2fsapo: yes, and you're trying to install a broken version of transcode06:23
fsapobob2, but transcode is "unstalable"06:23
revelaterbob2: it creates a file, not a folder though....06:24
bob2revelater: dude06:24
bob2revelater: it makes a symlink06:24
bob2revelater: this is what you're trying to do06:24
Naliothfsapo its installable, i did it yesterday06:24
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fsapobob2, updating the list06:24
bob2fsapo: no, it's "uninstallable".  now paste the output of "apt-cache policy transcode" to #flood.06:24
fsapobob2, ok, just wait i m updating06:25
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msaccowhat are the device names for SATA drives?  When ubuntu installed, it said sdg but the rescue system says special device sdg# does not exist06:26
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Naliothmsacco, have ya tried plain vanilla hd*?06:26
bob2/dev/sdX, find X by trial and error or examing "dmesg" output06:26
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bwbdamnit can't connect to swat for some reason06:28
msaccohow weird.  hda is my cdrom?06:28
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msaccojust mounted it.06:28
a_monkeywell... who's successfully used missingmediaburner?06:28
bob2that sounds more like a #macos question06:28
a_monkeybob2: it was06:28
Naliothbob2 it is06:28
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a_monkeynobody knows about mmb there06:29
Naliotha_monkey, there are other opensource burning softwares that will do the same thing06:29
a_monkeylots of ubuntu'ers have used mmb06:29
krazeivanbob2 sorry to bug ya but i canged the arc and it rewrote it to i386 is there a main template somewhere i need to change?06:29
bob2krazeivan: I don't know, it depends on the source package06:30
krazeivanok06:30
bob2grep around for i386 in the debian/ dir06:30
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msaccofound it, /dev/sdf3 is "/" of ubuntu06:33
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lexxanAnyone know a way to mount a bin & cue file or if i convert it to an iso06:33
lexxan?06:33
JustOneItHi! :)06:33
a_monkeylet's just say that i have to use missingmediaburner06:33
a_monkeyhow do i do it?06:33
bob2lexxan: use bchunk to ocnvert it to a useful format06:34
|iceman|ne1 know of an audio editor that work with mp3 files06:34
a_monkeywhat driver, and write mode06:34
msaccoso now, I chroot to /mnt/sdf3, and then is the command "ybin -v"?06:34
a_monkey(n00b)06:34
Naliothlexxan, use binchunker06:34
bob2a_monkey: dude, try a macos channel or mailing list or whatever06:34
JustOneItis it possible to configure a user to start with another wm (different from gnome)?06:34
bob2JustOneIt: yeah06:34
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lexxanOk so once its an iso.. how can i mount it?06:34
lexxanI don't have any cds06:34
bob2lexxan: come back and ask when you've converted it06:34
lexxanIt is converted with bchunk06:35
Naliotha_monkey go to versiontracker and get you a working software06:35
JustOneItbob2: :) would ya help me to do it?06:35
bob2lexxan: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 ./foo.iso /mnt/06:35
bob2JustOneIt: just tell us what you want to do06:35
lexxancool thx06:35
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Nalioth|iceman|, audacity06:36
|iceman|kewl... good for trimming, fades, etd?06:36
Nalioth|iceman|, you bet06:36
JustOneItbob2: ok... :) i have a user who works with gnome... I've just created another user and i would like to let him start with icewm...06:36
lexxanbob2, Is there a special way to unmount.. i'm getting umount: it seems /upstairs is mounted multiple times06:36
bob2JustOneIt: echo exec icewm > ~/.xsession06:37
bob2JustOneIt: as that user.  then get them to select "default session" or whatever it is in gdm06:37
bob2lexxan: is it mounted multiple times?06:37
lexxanWell i only mounted it once lol.06:37
JustOneItbob2: ok... :)06:37
lexxanand no matter how many times i hit umount /upstairs it sticks lol06:37
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drossOkay, I plug in my pen drive, and the device isn't created. What is wrong?06:38
drossI've been seeing this all over the forums?06:38
drossis it a bug?06:38
crimsunas in /dev/sda doesn't exist?06:38
msaccoOK, I ran ybin and recieved the error "unable to find OpenFirmware path for boot=/dev/sdg2"06:38
SeamusLPdross:  I believe you're going to need to add a line to your fstab06:38
angel12is the orinoco support built in the stock hoary kernel?06:38
drosscorrect06:38
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crimsundross: and sd_mod is loaded?06:39
drossmmm06:39
bob2dross: is it formatted?  are you using an ubuntu kernel?06:39
bob2if you're using a custom kernel, all bets are off.06:39
SeamusLPdross: ah, the device isn't created... nevermind06:39
drosscrimsun: blast. thats the problem06:39
lexxanWell that mount thing really borked my machine.. reboot time06:39
drosscrimsun: what does GNOME use to mount it automatically?06:39
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crimsundross: gnome-volume-manager06:40
drosscrimsun: I've been using KDE lately.. so no gnome magic :)06:40
syndxfce4 : )06:40
JustOneItbob2: thanx! :)06:40
angel12is the orinoco support built in the stock hoary kernel?06:40
msaccohow do I find out the openfirmware path?06:40
drosssynd: sorry, I require advanced desktop for corporate usage06:41
syndsay what?06:41
drosssynd: I require a Desktop which has the ability of setting policies06:41
drosssynd: which KDE has in the policy manager06:41
syndhmm06:42
kingsleyWill someone here please try the following test and tell me if your xfstt has port 7101? ( netstat -l ; netstat -plunt ; lsof -i -n ) | grep 710106:42
drosssynd: its the only reason I choose to run KDE.06:42
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syndKDE feels like it's made by Fischer-Price06:42
drosssynd: corporate conversion == money for me :)06:43
angel12lets not get into kde-vs-gnome tonight please06:43
lexxanWhen i used KDE konquerer or whatever crashed every time i used it ;/06:43
drosssynd: well.. the default theme makes me want to puke :)06:43
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lexxanThe sickest default is how huge the taskbar is06:43
syndwhat corporation?06:43
lexxanlooks disgusting06:43
drosssynd: plastik is okay... but I require tweaking :) and the gtk-manager-qt program thing06:43
fsapobob2, please take a look at #flood06:43
drosslexxan: Thank you! :) /me sizes down the big bloated bar06:44
synddross: i just hate the damn huge fonts06:44
syndits seems its for like the elderly06:44
drossI thought I was the only one who thought the KDE bar was insanely huge06:44
lexxanhuh?06:44
lexxano06:44
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angel12dross synd, lets not get into this06:44
lexxanI put it on tiny06:44
drosssynd: I convert companies06:44
drosslexxan: I do ;)06:45
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crimsunfsapo: which debian-marillat repo are you using?06:45
KsmurfAnyone have advice for getting an Audigy 2 Soundcard working?06:45
drossright now.. I'm converting a bunch of baptists to Linuxism06:45
synddross: i see06:45
crimsunKsmurf: what doesn't work? (I presume you're using Horay)06:45
msaccoThanks all for getting me this far.  I gotta go to bed.  When I get more free time I'll sign on here again.06:45
crimsun(Hoary^)06:45
synddross: so youre a linux "pope"06:45
fsapocrimsun, bob2 said to comment the marillat entries O.o06:46
angel12lol, ha, linux pope06:46
drosssynd: hehe06:46
syndive converted many to OSX06:46
drosssynd: well, I'm going to be launching a linux compaign06:46
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KsmurfCrimsun Yes Hoary.... My sound card is not loaded.. and I'm a noob06:46
syndonly a few to linux..06:46
drosssynd: :) I love MacOSX06:46
drosssynd: its the only way to design ;)06:46
crimsunKsmurf: cat /proc/asound/cards06:46
synddross: my absolute favorite OS, period06:46
synddo you have Tiger?06:46
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drosssynd: *grin*06:47
drosssynd: why do you ask? :)06:47
bwbhey does anyone know if swat can have smbd reload the config file (vs. restarting smbd)06:47
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Ksmurf0 [Audigy2        ] : Audigy2 - Sound Blaster Audigy206:47
Ksmurf                     Sound Blaster Audigy2 (rev.4) at 0xdf00, irq 2106:47
drosssynd: I barrows it from the Chinese ;)06:47
crimsunKsmurf: it actually is loaded ;)06:47
icebalm<-- will have OSX soon, mini is coming06:47
synddross: doesnt everyone? :p06:47
Ksmurflol06:47
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drosssynd: they have every software pirated first06:48
crimsunKsmurf: please paste the output of ,,amixer'' onto http://pastebin.com06:48
Ksmurfthen why is it not working... rofl06:48
drosssynd: yes, but the Chinese always have the goods to test out before buying ;)06:48
Ksmurf..amixer.. ok06:48
syndthats true06:48
drossI used to have 5 killer g4 servers :/06:48
syndooo06:48
drossnow they are closet machines because they have no idea what to do with them :) oh well. Don't work there anymore06:49
drossoh well to idiots :)06:49
syndha06:49
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drossany tools?06:49
drossIts a ubuntu installation video06:49
fsapodamit if i could even compile transcode =[06:49
angel12icebalm, good luck, i tried to convert myself, my ibook lasted a month before selling it for a tablet pc, now i gots me a linux tablet!06:49
drossI'm going to create many tutorials06:49
crimsunfsapo: what $arch?06:49
drossfor the people :)06:50
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icebalmangel12: how come you didn't stick with it?06:50
fsapocrimsun, $arch?06:50
crimsunfsapo: cpu06:50
drossgood night everyone06:51
fsapocrimsun, duron x86 :P06:51
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angel12icebalm, i couldnt find any real free help such as this irc, and i didnt want to buy a $30 book to learn osx, i am a HS student afterall, not a lot of $$06:51
icebalmangel12: ahh, well, I've been a mac tech :D06:51
bwbangel12: where you gonna go for college?06:51
fsapocrimsun, but it missing the stupid libvorbis and i cant install it properly06:51
kompulsivebah....06:51
crimsunfsapo: so you can use the debian-marillat testing repo to install transcode06:51
kompulsivenonsense.06:51
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Ksmurfhttp://pastebin.com/27895206:51
kompulsivei was in high school just last year and i always had money.06:51
drossif anyone wishes to help with a linux campaign, or create ubuntu newcomer materials, just IM me. I would say email.. but I'm creating a video for an admin at a ded center :)06:51
kompulsiveall you need is a little hustle.06:51
angel12bwb, Mcmurry in abiline tx06:51
kompulsiveespecially if you're still living at home! there's no rent to pay ;-)06:52
fsapocrimsun, i tried it.. i end up with  uninstalable dependecies06:52
crimsunKsmurf: unmute the 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack'06:52
icebalmangel12: linux tablet sounds cool tho, how does the stylus work? just like an emulated mouse?06:52
angel12icebalm, then i am sure you will like it, im sure if i knew it i would have liked it. the stylus works just like it would in winxp, took a lot of hacking to get it to work though06:53
angel12icebalm, i guess you could call it emulated mouse06:53
kompulsivewhat's going on with winxp these days anyhow? my XP box went nutty.06:53
bwbangel12: coo06:53
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pdk001hi06:54
angel12yeah, my little bro got a virus on his xp computer so i am setting it up with ubuntu, not the best06:54
kompulsiveit's doing some crazy thing where it won't accept any drivers except these presets that windows forces it to use.06:54
angel12kompulsive, use linux06:54
drossangel12: I just started to convert business people to ubuntu, be happy ;)06:54
kompulsivei'm using ubuntu right now.06:54
kompulsivebut i need my XP box for other things.06:54
syndkompulsive: xp = xtremely pointless.06:54
crimsunfsapo: what sort?06:55
fsapokompulsive, just do what i did.. format your ntfs partition as reiserfs, install ubuntu and be happy06:55
angel12does anyone know if the stock hoary kernel has the orinoco wifi drivers installed?06:55
drosssynd: I could think of a few good uses with xp :)06:55
kompulsiveyeah, really pointless. i mean, whoever wanted to do something stupid like play games on their computer and audio/video production?06:55
kompulsivehow pointless.06:55
drosssynd: especially sexual type jokes.. eXtra Pu...06:55
syndi leave my gaming to my xbox06:56
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kompulsivewhat's pointless is arguing that UNIX is "better" than macOS/windows, etc06:56
drosssynd: I recall the OpenBSD joke poster with a female blow fish being exploited :)06:56
syndand my audio/video production to OSX06:56
kompulsivei use macOS, UNIX, and windows06:56
kompulsivethey all have their uses.06:56
synddross: hahah06:56
kompulsivesynd; do they make WoW for the xbox?06:56
fsapocrimsun, transcode is depending on it: libvorbis0 it is already installed but the version doesnt match the transcode requirements -_-06:56
angel12kompulsive, linux/unix=stable, windows=games/media. macos=production06:56
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crimsunfsapo: you're using the testing repo?06:57
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fsapocrimsun, i was06:57
drosshmm 12M of updates since yesterday06:57
syndno, but if you wanna spend $1000+ to play games..which 95% of them are available on the xbox/ps2.. then i mean06:57
fsapocrimsun, but i cant install another libvorbis anyway06:57
kompulsiveangel12, you won't find me arguing.06:57
kompulsivesynd; 95%? that's ridiculous.06:57
undre61umm how do I know if the ati drivers work06:57
crimsunfsapo: please paste the precise dependency error(s) in #flood or on http://pastebin.com06:57
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kompulsivethere's not even CLOSE to as many games for xbox as there is for the PC.06:58
Ksmurfall hail crimsun the sound god/godess06:58
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syndkompulsive: nonetheless, more and more developers are developing games for linux06:58
crimsunpshh06:58
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syndkompulsive: of course.06:58
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fsapocrimsun, ok but i ll have to update the repositories here.. its going to take a while06:58
syndkompulsive: most big production games are available on both platforms.06:59
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lexxanxboxs are for people who have friends.. computer games are for loners06:59
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lexxan:P06:59
syndlexxan: :D06:59
Ksmurfnow for the next trick .... I'm off to try and install the nvidia driver for my card06:59
lexxanKsmurf.. not too difficult06:59
lexxan?? nvidia06:59
[uhelp] nvidia: to setup your xorg binary nvidia driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto -OR- http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver -ALSO- http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html06:59
bcowanI can't seem to rsync the stinkin iso...can someone post the url to the rsync i386 cd iso06:59
Ksmurfnvidia 6600 GT06:59
Parkway?? networking07:00
[uhelp] networking[x] : No defenition found for word.07:00
undre61is there one for ati??07:00
Parkwaydah well07:00
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nickrud?? bugs07:00
[uhelp] bugs[x] : No defenition found for word.07:00
lexxan?? ati07:00
[uhelp] ati: To setup your xorg binary ati driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto07:00
nickrud?? bugzilla07:00
[uhelp] bugzilla[x] : No defenition found for word.07:00
syndwow, i love streamtuner07:00
lexxannickrud, Why don't you think up something creative for those two :P07:00
ParkwayAnyone know anything about getting a wlan up and running?  Finally got it added to the Network Manager list and it says I can activate it, but doesnt do jack ;P07:01
lexxan?? wireless07:01
[uhelp] wireless: For listed hardware support see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards | Setup see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto07:01
JustOneItbob2: Thax... Things work great! :) Just another little question... Can i change the ubuntu time sever it probes at sturtup?07:01
nickrudlexxan, I would, but I leave tomorrow, and will be internet free in western washington for a couple of weeks.07:01
syndnickrud: i feel for you07:01
bob2JustOneIt: yeah07:02
nickrudsynd, I lived the first 25 years of my life without computers, a couple of weeks won't kill me :)07:02
bob2JustOneIt: /etc/default/ntpdate, I think07:02
lexxanI hate it when i leave on holidays for amonth.. come back07:02
lexxanand go oh shit what are my passwords07:02
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syndnickrud: hah. i lived the first 8.. been in front of one ever since :D07:02
danko123456hi all.07:03
fsapocrimsun, take a look @ #flood07:03
JustOneItbob2: thanx! :)07:03
danko123456fsapo: whats that cahnnel?07:04
fsapodanko123456, #flood channel to paste stuff :P07:04
danko123456col07:04
danko123456thanks07:04
fsapodanko123456, ;)07:04
danko123456where are you on the globe, fsapo?07:05
danko123456US?07:05
JustOneItbob2: Sorry... But I was used to gentoo... where i can find the startup scripts like sshd and so on? :)07:05
nickrudlexxan, and if someone does write one, make sure it mentions reportbug ;)07:06
lexxannickrud, I'm sure you can create a quick 2 lines before you goto bed07:06
lexxanlol07:06
nickrudhahhahahaa07:06
fsapodanko123456, brazil.. what about you?07:06
danko123456Canada07:06
cadencei am trying to install a library for a third-party program here on my new Ubuntu setup, and when i execute the 'install.sh' in either the regular or root terminal I get an error telling me that the library doesnt exist...however It most certainly exists right before my eyes. Could anyone please tell what it is that I am doing wrong here? (Linux Newb)07:06
danko123456cool07:07
danko123456If I want a page like the pastebin on my computer, where should I look?07:08
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KsmurfWell that was cool07:08
blujayJustin: /etc/init.d07:09
blujayoops07:09
blujayJustOneIt: /etc/init.d07:09
blujaycadence: what library??07:10
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cadencelibborqt-6.9.0-qt2.3.so07:10
KsmurfMy limited knowledge in linux is with KDE ... Gnome seems great!  Any more noob hints for me?07:11
danko123456What do you want to do?07:11
blujaycadence: is the library not available in apt?07:11
cadencethe PIM i am trying to install said that library is what i need for it07:11
danko123456Just go with it is my advice07:11
danko123456:)07:11
cadenceno, its not in apt07:12
JustOneItblujay: thanx! :)07:12
Ksmurfgo with it?07:12
blujaycadence: what does install.sh do?07:12
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danko123456Like, yeah, I dont know...maybe its stupid...07:12
Ksmurfshell script right?07:13
fsapoanyone here knows where i can find these deb packages: gawn and libpvm3?07:13
cadenceinstall: cannot stat `libborqt-6.9.0-qt2.3.so': No such file or directory07:13
cadencecp: cannot stat `libborqt-6.9.0-qt2.3.so': No such file or directory07:13
fsapogawk*07:13
cadenceis what it spits out07:13
blujaycadence: and where is taht file?07:13
danko123456gawk?07:13
cadenceon the desktop07:13
danko123456isnt taht standard installed?07:13
blujaycadence: and where is the install.sh script?07:14
Ksmurfthanks all for the help... off to read the starters guide07:14
danko123456bye07:14
blacknyxguys, is installing things like MPlayer still a gigantic hassle with 20 seperate things to install?07:14
danko123456cya07:14
cadencethe script is with the rest of the files07:14
danko123456it nmay be, blacknyx07:14
blujaycadence: which is where?07:14
blujayblacknyx: google?07:14
lexxanblacknyx, Not if you use a package.07:14
danko123456since you ned support for restricted formats...07:14
lexxan?? restricted07:15
[uhelp] restricted: To find out more about java, dvd playing, codecs etc. see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:15
blacknyxblujay: google's too vague07:15
blujaydanko123456: all you need is w32codecs and totem-xine07:15
danko123456thats what I use...07:15
danko123456Xine.07:15
blujayblacknyx: google.com/search?q=ubuntu+mplayer07:15
danko123456XineUi.07:15
cadenceum its all located in a directory placed on my desktop07:15
danko123456It works as good as Mplayer did for me,..07:15
cadencedoes it need to be launched from a specific place?07:15
blujaycadence: is there a readme?07:15
danko123456then send the install.sh to that folder.07:15
blujaycadence: or a file called "INSTALL"?07:15
blacknyxblujay:  still vague.  still doesn't answer the specific question if ubuntu has made it an easier process to install large program with lots of dependancies such as MPlayer07:16
danko123456or read what thje script does if you can understand it07:16
cadencenope so singular file called install07:16
danko123456yes, they havem blacknyx07:16
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blujayblacknyx: second hit: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21138.html07:16
danko123456not that it worked for me...07:16
Raskallcan I hope that I can apt-get upgrade to get clamav 0.84 soon?07:16
lexxanblacknyx, I just gave you the link.07:16
kompulsiveanyone here have much experience when it comes to intrusion detection?07:17
blujaykompulsive: looked at snort?07:17
danko123456heh, rear intrusion?07:17
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kompulsiveblujay; i'm totally a UNIX n00b ;-(07:17
blujayblacknyx: "is it easier" is not a very specific question either.  Read that URL I sent you, it has all the information you need (and it was the second Google hit...)07:18
blujaykompulsive: google for "snort ids"07:18
kompulsivebut i have a domain now and webspace with cpanel so i'm going to have to figure out some kind of logging system/intrusion detection solution before i can start working with oscommerce07:18
blujaykompulsive: are you running your own server?07:18
crimsunfsapo: please _uncomment_ the main restricted repos07:18
crimsunfsapo: additionally, comment out the stable debian-marillat07:18
crimsunfsapo: then update, and install transcode07:19
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blacknyxblujay: well since you already dont appreciate my asking a question, I figured i'd be as vague as I could.   This link isn't telling me what I didn't already know07:19
fsapocrimsun, i m downloading the gawk package.. hope it works07:19
danko123456Be more specific, blacknyx07:19
blujayblacknyx: Well, I mean, if you need to install it, there's how...so...07:19
danko123456What exactly do you mean?07:19
cadencewell i opened the script up in texteditor and then pasted it into the terminal... got a new error:  /sbin/ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied07:20
blujayblacknyx: if you want an easier from-the-start process, I guess you'll need to wait for breezy07:20
kompulsiveblujay; no ;-( it's like VPN i'm pretty sure. i have a shared IP.07:20
danko123456not that I will have any info for you:P07:20
blacknyxdanko12345:  I'm merely asking as a gentoo user wanting to go back to ubuntu bot remembering my frustration with having to install 30 components seperately for MPlayer07:20
blujaykompulsive: you should probably ask your hosting provider if they have any IDS07:20
blacknyxand not all of them having all of their dependancies so having to search for dependancies for those dependancies07:20
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blacknyxso I gave up.07:20
blujayblacknyx: just use that repository, install mplyaer, and that's it.  apt takes care of dependencies for you.07:20
lexxanblacknyx, Stop being stubborn. Google is vague? Oh I know that link? it _EXPLAINS_ exactly how to install it.07:21
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danko123456oh, ok...07:21
blacknyxok ok sorry I'm not trying to be stubborn, I just kinda thought it'd be a simple answer.  I've been reading manuals for the past 5 days straight, I'm tired and want something simple.07:21
fsapoOMFG IT WORKED!07:22
danko123456well, I tried, and it was harder than in Warty, meaning the same instructions that worked in warty, do not work in hoary.07:22
lexxanIt takes about 30 seconds to put in the marillat repository07:22
fsapocrimsun, installing :D07:22
blujayblacknyx: it won't take more than 5 minutes to do what it says there07:22
lexxanand apt-get update07:22
danko123456great, fsapo.07:22
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fsapocrimsun, i ve commented everything but the unstable release.. and now its installing :D07:22
fsapodanko123456, man i m trying to install it for a week O_O07:22
lexxan?? repository07:22
[uhelp] repository[x] : No defenition found for word.07:23
lexxanhrm07:23
danko123456nice, fsapo.07:23
fsapo^^07:23
danko123456but then I use xine now...07:23
danko123456Im open minded.07:23
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danko123456Use anything that works.07:23
fsaponow i just need some fireworks to celebrate haha07:24
danko123456heh07:24
lexxanblacknyx, echo deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list07:24
lexxanthen apt-get update07:24
lexxanthen apt-get install mplayer-386=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 007:25
lexxanas long as you have multiverse enabled.07:25
lexxanoops07:25
lexxanapt-get install mplayer-386=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu607:25
blacknyxthanks lexxan.  I'll save that in case I decide to install ubuntu I can do it simply.07:25
Anubismenu editor adds but does not seem to remove entries07:25
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danko123456all or some?07:26
Anubishuh?07:26
crimsunlexxan: except you don't want to use the unstable repo with Hoary.07:26
danko123456some dont want to lleave on mine07:26
crimsunlexxan: you want to use the testing repo with Hoary.07:26
Bachus9000OK, guys, I've got a tiny problem with xcompmgr and the gnome panel.  Basically, it's drawing the shadows regardless of whether or not I use the -C option.  I don't see this behavior with XFCE.07:27
lexxancrimsun, Ah well I should find the wiki page that says to use unstable07:27
crimsunlexxan: and fix it.07:27
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Anubisnow I have a doublr realplayer entry07:27
danko123456heh mine too07:28
danko123456I deleted, and it added one07:28
Anubisit won't delete07:28
Ksmurfwhat does gpg do?07:28
danko123456I like how OS x you just drag it off the dock, and it goes away..07:28
Anubispgp keys07:28
danko123456maybe gnome should do that,07:28
Ksmurfok pgp ... encrpytion or athentication?07:29
Anubisboth07:30
danko123456I didnt fail one of my courses...yay...07:30
danko123456I just found out today07:30
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danko123456I got a B...07:30
Ksmurfjust the info transfer or on my system?07:30
danko123456not thaT it is related...07:30
danko123456I should get a life, it seems.07:30
danko123456:)07:30
Raskallwhere do I send a request for getting a package updated?07:31
danko123456santa:P07:31
danko123456how can I change my quit message in Gaim, or IRC?07:32
mebaran151hey07:32
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danko123456hey07:32
mebaran151how can I make a bash script echo its steps07:32
mebaran151would that be echo on07:33
mebaran151jsut on the the top07:33
IIIEars1Hi - Is it possible to work with a graphical interface as root?07:33
p0mShort answer, no.07:33
danko123456Longer answer, why?07:33
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p0mHeh.07:34
IIIEars1ouch - i am really struggling with the command line.07:34
danko123456Ok...07:34
p0mdanko123456: In your gaim settings there should be an option for them.07:34
gorilla_why?? because bad things can potentially happen if you run X as root.07:34
p0mIIIEars1: The long answer is that Sudo is used instead of a root user.07:35
danko123456IIIEars1: http://ubuntuguide.org/#allowrootlogingnome07:35
p0m?? SudoRoot07:35
[uhelp] sudoroot[x] : No defenition found for word.07:35
danko123456This page may be it?07:35
p0m?? RootSudo07:35
[uhelp] rootsudo[x] : No defenition found for word.07:35
IIIEars1Just moving a fortune text from the desktop to /games/fortune is giving me a headache - lol07:35
p0mWeird.07:35
lexxan?? root07:35
[uhelp] root: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:35
lexxan?? sudo07:35
[uhelp] sudo: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:35
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danko123456Ill tell you how exactly.07:35
lexxanheh07:35
p0mhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo07:35
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IIIEars1Ya-ay!07:35
p0mlexxan: Too late.07:35
p0m:)07:35
danko123456If you want, tell me file...07:35
danko123456And whatever..07:35
Anubisso my menu is just borked?07:35
gorilla_p0m, no just sudo ... for example "sudo whoami" enter your own password when prompted.07:35
danko123456Not sure, Anubis...07:36
IIIEars1lol - he needs a throttle - i question a minute maybe07:36
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p0mgorilla_: Err?07:36
danko123456IIIEars1: that works?07:36
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Anubisit says its deleting the entry07:36
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Anubisbut its still there07:36
IIIEars1fotunes-new to games/fortune07:36
danko123456thats just a gdm settings.07:36
Anubisshould I kill the panel?07:36
p0mTo be honest, it's rather silly to run Gnome or anything as root really.07:36
danko123456p0m: did you see taht page I had?07:36
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danko123456try, Anubis07:36
danko123456it works, i guess..07:37
lexxanAnubis, I can't remove enemy-territory from my menu.. pisses me off =[07:37
danko123456Just by delfault its off.07:37
fsapoanyone here knows if those onboard winmodems works with ubuntu?07:37
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IIIEars1uhelp - you are a nice bot glad you have joined #ubuntu07:37
danko123456cause more ppl dont want it that do, I guess.07:37
p0mIIIEars1: So you want to be root so you can read fortune on the desktop?07:37
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IIIEars1just wanted to add new text to the screensaver (sheepish grin)07:38
Anubisamazing07:38
p0mErr.07:38
danko123456sudo mv fortunes-new /games/fortune07:38
Anubissomething as simple as a menu editor07:38
danko123456but, its all case sensitive, and all, be careful07:38
p0mWhy not just run the config program with sudo?07:38
Anubiswhy would gnome do this?07:38
p0mgnome-control-panel or something.07:38
danko123456if you are in that folder where the fortunes-new is.07:38
p0mAnubis: What's the program?07:38
IIIEars1okay - a new os hasn't helped my spelling very much - grin07:39
p0mThat you're trying to remove.07:39
danko123456menu editor.07:39
danko123456pom07:39
p0m^^07:39
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danko123456It will eventally help, IIIEars107:39
danko123456Yu cant help it...07:39
mebaran151how do I set DMA for an sda drive 9 (sata scsi)07:39
mebaran151I mean07:39
mebaran151I have a /dev/sda07:40
p0mIsn't DMA normally set in the bios?07:40
mebaran151I set it in the bios07:40
danko123456(00:40:08) ***[uhelp]  pets IIIEars1 hah07:40
IIIEars1danko123456 - Thanks07:40
mebaran151but the kernel needs to actually use it07:40
danko123456Yeah, youre welcome...07:40
lexxanmebaran151, Might wanna check out hdparm07:40
danko123456NOt familiar with the shell, eh?07:40
mebaran151hdparm07:40
mebaran151does not work07:40
p0mmebaran151: That's what I was about to suggest.07:40
lexxanya I dunno never used sata <-- poor07:40
danko123456IIIEars1: hey, you got that page on enabling login with root?07:41
mebaran151wrong ioctl (hdparm was meant for ide drivers, not scsi based)07:41
danko123456you can log in.07:41
mebaran151do you think it might be set now07:41
p0mmebaran151: Did you try hdparm -d 1 /dev/sda9 ?07:41
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IIIEars11 week and 1day using linux - 3 days uptime no reboots err-- could ya tell me is my computer really running? - grin07:41
RaskallAgh... someone is trying to hack into my sshd 2-3 times a day. I'd really like to have something to answer with.07:41
lexxanRaskall, devote your life to IRC and meet all the hackers on EFNet.07:42
p0mRaskall: Everyone's is, deal with it :P07:42
mebaran151p0m, yeah07:42
danko123456lexxan: hah?!07:42
xxviperzlairxxsoo i have a stupid question.... I am trying to boot from the LiveCD and I cant get it to boot07:42
IIIEars1IRC is scarey - the wise waiting for the unwarey.07:42
mebaran151but it reports the ioctl was inappropriate07:42
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mebaran151that makes sense as I am not using an ide driver07:42
mebaran151I am using a scsi driver07:43
mebaran151under libata07:43
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p0mmebaran151: But hdparm should work with sata scsi.07:43
danko123456xxviperzlairxx: did you download it?07:43
Raskalllexxan: :) I am not very afraid. Have all the latest updates and only allows pubkey-auth with 2K keys, but it's still a bit annoying that they waste resources on my server.07:43
Ksmurfis there anyway to find my critical voltages and temps in linux?07:43
xxviperzlairxxyes07:43
xxviperzlairxxand Burne dit to a CD07:43
Raskallhey hey hey.. this one has webmin open to the net.07:44
danko123456how did you download?07:44
danko123456ftp?http?torrent?07:44
p0mKsmurf: Search for lm-sensors on the forum. There's a guide to setting it up.07:44
danko123456?? ftp07:44
[uhelp] ftp[x] : No defenition found for word.07:44
xxviperzlairxxuhh one sec ill check07:44
danko123456?? go learn it...07:44
p0mmebaran151: try this -- for disc in `ls /dev/sd?`; do hdparm $disc; done07:44
[uhelp] go[x] : No defenition found for word.07:44
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fsapoKsmurf, http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app_list&gd_sub_app_list=3707:45
p0mfsapo: Got to make sure lm-sensors is working first :)07:45
xxviperzlairxxhttp07:45
underlordwho do i nag to update the monodevelop package in hoary to the latest version?07:45
danko123456crimsun: is that good? could it be a checksum error?07:45
Hardy`is anyone here particularly good with setting up ALSA?07:46
damnhatesyouhello is the Unofficial Ubuntu Add-On CD from http://ubuntuguide.org  any good???07:46
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p0mGot it!07:46
p0mmebaran151: sdparm07:46
mebaran151sdparm07:46
mebaran151ok07:46
IIIEars1Can i add an alias to cd to type in the the desktop or home path auto magically?07:46
mebaran151let me try it07:46
danko123456damnhatesyou: what do you mean good?07:46
lexxan** danko07:46
[uhelp] Found 1 matches. Sorted: danko. (0.002s)07:46
Hardy`particularly, with say a compile error 1 when "make" ing the alsa driver?07:46
mebaran151p0m, not installed07:47
p0munderlord: tseng (Brandon Hale)07:47
mebaran151I got to go find IT07:47
lexxanwtf07:47
p0mmebaran151: That would be a good idea :) sdparm works mainly the same way.07:47
lexxanwho is brandon hale?07:47
mebaran151it isnt in apt07:47
p0mlexxan: It's the Mono master.07:47
mebaran151what might it be part of07:47
p0mHe's*07:47
damnhatesyouis it worth downloading my main linux pc does not have the net07:47
xxviperzlairxxany one have suggestiongs on how to get the LiveCD to boot?07:47
lexxanmy old best friend has that name07:47
danko123456xxviperzlairxx: you know how to check the checksum md5 something?07:48
lexxanbut he moved to toronto canada07:48
p0mmebaran151: sd, just search through synaptic for "scsi"07:48
xxviperzlairxxi do not07:48
danko123456k, giev me a sec, maybe I can find out.07:48
p0mxxviperzlairxx: What is the error message?07:48
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xxviperzlairxxno error message, i am trying to boot the LiveCD07:48
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danko123456md5sum file.iso > file.iso.md507:49
jiyuu0damnhatesyou, the add-on cd is good for ppl who doesn't have internet07:49
fsapoanyone here knows if those onboard winmodems works with ubuntu?07:49
xxviperzlairxxI have an AMD64 so i got the 64 version (.iso) and burn it to a CD07:49
danko123456md5sum -c file.iso.md507:49
danko123456after that.07:49
danko123456try that.07:49
damnhatesyoucool thank will it let me watch divx movies07:49
p0mmebaran151: If you can't find it, the main page for sdparm is -> http://sg.torque.net/sg/07:49
jiyuu0i'm uploading a new version now... it includes a script to install all the add-on apps... but by answer [y/n] 07:49
ParkwayNo luck with any of the ?? wireless help.  Cant get this damn thing to work period.07:49
holycowhttp://dilbert.com/  <-- *gasp*07:49
xxviperzlairxxdo i have to have linux for it to work?07:49
holycowi wonder what tommorrows strip is going to be07:49
holycow-_-07:49
p0m?? sdparm07:49
[uhelp] sdparm[x] : No defenition found for word.07:49
mebaran151which of these is right07:49
syndParkway: ndiswrapper?07:49
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p0m[uhelp]  sdparm is http://sg.torque.net/sg/07:49
mebaran151I found in the repos07:49
p0mmebaran151: Cool.07:50
mebaran151scsitools, blktool07:50
danko123456rightm, yes07:50
danko123456you do07:50
ParkwayDont think Ive tried that because I wasnt sure what to do with it07:50
p0mParkway: What's the card you're using?07:50
mebaran151and sg3-tools07:50
danko123456that sucks, eh?07:50
mebaran151I dont think it is sg307:50
p0mmebaran151: It should be sg3-tools.07:50
ParkwayIts a USB Adapter, Linksys07:50
mebaran151no but it isnt an sg driver07:50
mebaran151it is sd07:50
danko123456not really knowledgeable, I heard you can do that, to see if it is good.07:50
mebaran151I read that in my mplayer manual ;)07:51
syndParkway: do you have the WinXP drivers for it?07:51
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ParkwayOn a CD, ya07:51
syndParkway: i can walk you thru it07:51
p0mmebaran151: sg3 is an sd driver. It stands for SCSI generic driver 3.07:51
danko123456hi ogra07:51
xxviperzlairxxDo you have to be running linux for the LiveCD to boot?07:51
syndxxviperzlairxx: no07:51
p0mxxviperzlairxx: No.07:51
syndxxviperzlairxx: you have to boot from CD07:51
xxviperzlairxxi cannot get the CD to boot07:51
ParkwayGreat! I mean, I have it in my Network list, and I can ifconfig and it shows up, but no signal??07:51
danko123456off course not, that is the idea;)07:52
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lexxanxxviperzlairxx, Check your BIOS and make sure its set to boot off cdrom.07:52
syndxxviperzlairxx: you press like f12 right when you start up to check the boot sequence07:52
xxviperzlairxxok, ill go try07:53
syndxxviperzlairxx: some computers check the cdrom/floppy before booting off the HD, some done07:53
synddont07:53
lexxanf12 or f1 f207:53
lexxandel07:53
lexxanusually07:53
syndyeah07:53
p0msynd: Most don't. It wastes bootup time.07:53
syndit should say for a brief period of time07:53
Raskallis there a way to search for a certain host on irc? I have found out that the person hacking me is at uphosting.com.br07:53
mebaran151looks like I need sgparm07:53
mebaran151sdparm I mean07:53
mebaran151they should put it in the archive07:53
p0mRaskall: Unless they've gotten in, they aren't hacking.07:53
danko123456they should, like mine07:53
Hardy|ALSAsucks?? alsa07:53
[uhelp] alsa[x] : No defenition found for word.07:53
p0mmebaran151: http://sg.torque.net/sg/sdparm.html07:53
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Raskallp0m: ok.. trying, then..07:54
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p0mThere's a deb there.07:54
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lexxanp0m, I added it just for u :P07:54
p0mlexxan: Added?07:54
lexxan?? sdparm07:54
[uhelp] sdparm: Check out - http://sg.torque.net/sg/sdparm.html07:54
lexxanheh07:54
p0mOhh, thanks.07:54
Parkwaysynd, Any help is much appreciated ;)07:54
p0mHow'd you add it?07:54
me101hi guys07:55
p0mHi me101.07:55
me101wich is the best Linux OS07:55
danko123456haha07:55
danko123456awesome07:55
p0mHaha.07:55
lexxanp0m, with my secret commands@)@$*$%07:55
p0mme101: Are you trying to start a flamewar? :)07:55
syndme101: ubuntu, of course07:55
danko123456www.bestLinuxOS.org07:55
paulproteusme101: Peanut Linux is the best.07:55
syndParkway: PM?07:55
p0mlexxan: Ohh, you own the bot?07:55
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lexxanya just started it the other day07:56
lexxanlackin definitions :P07:56
p0mCool.07:56
danko123456its funny, though07:56
me101I've just installed unbutu, fantastic stuff07:56
danko123456You **danko07:56
p0mYou might want to add a in-channel command for people to add to it.07:56
danko123456I agree, pretty good07:56
syndmandrake is nice07:56
danko123456I love it too...07:56
syndlinspire07:56
fsapome101, now just uninstall windows and be happy :)07:56
lexxanPeople who want to add can ask lol07:56
lexxanAs if i'm gonna let everyone go nuts.07:56
syndfsapo: i agree :D07:56
shido6I still keep and run my xp07:56
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shido6but a lot less now that I have ubuntu07:56
p0mlexxan: Just add a userlist of some form, so that you can let people you know use it.07:57
lexxanits already set that way07:57
fsaposynd, man.. i dont regret uninstalling that shit!07:57
lexxan!learn add danko Channel Clown.07:57
p0mlexxan: Ohh, fair enough.07:57
me101in the way Linux has advanced, leaves MS for dead07:57
shido6anyone familiar with getting OpenAL and esd to work?07:57
p0m?? danko07:57
[uhelp] danko: Channel Clown.07:57
danko123456funk that...07:57
danko123456I try to help...07:57
syndfsapo: me too.. it was just taking up space :D07:57
lexxanhahaha07:57
me101there is one problem, however07:57
danko123456I helped a couple ppl...07:57
lexxan!learn del danko07:57
danko123456Anyhow, thats not nice...hah07:58
lexxanjust messin with ya =] 07:58
danko123456But, its funny,.07:58
me101which is the problem that I had (lets hope)07:58
danko123456:)07:58
me101didnt know which version of Linux to install07:58
fsaposynd, and thanx to the epic games i can play ut2k4 :D i love those guys haha07:58
dell500i'm trying to isntall cedega cvs, i was wondering if anyone here has done it?07:58
lexxanI don't know much.. i just point people to wikis :P07:58
me101there are a few07:58
p0mmebaran151: You still there?07:58
p0mme101: If you get Ubuntu, Canonical will ship it to you :)07:59
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Parkway?? cedega07:59
[uhelp] cedega[x] : No defenition found for word.07:59
danko123456yeah, Canonical covers even the shipping, and cd, thats funny.07:59
Anubiscrimsun, is there some real help comming in the way of fixing the gnome menu system ie. editing?07:59
fsapop0m, i ve asked for a cd 2 weeks ago.. i m wondering when is it going to arive here07:59
me101Unbutu is fantastic in the way it installs08:00
p0mme101: http://shipit.ubuntu.com/08:00
lexxanoff topic.. anyone here seen man of the house with tommy lee jones08:00
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lexxanisn't it 4-6 weeks08:00
p0mfsapo: Ubuntu Down Under was just on, so I'd say some time in the next two-three weeks.08:00
p0mOr what lexxan said.08:00
me101it even, I think, updates itself on the Net while it installs08:00
fsapop0m, hum.. nice :)08:00
me101thanks p0m08:00
danko123456me101: I think it hjust says that08:01
fsapolexxan, i dont have problems with the download but i want the pretty cd :D08:01
danko123456told me that and I was not even connected.08:01
p0mdanko123456: I'm interested to see if Canonical will support the free shipping of ubuntu-sbs and ubuntu-server when they come out.08:01
danko123456but, yeah very cmooth default.08:01
danko123456oh, so new versions?08:01
p0mI think mainly they will be metapackages, but it would be nice to see separate Iso's.08:01
danko123456that is kinda against what they said in the beginning.08:01
danko123456But, whatever, I dont need uit.08:01
p0mdanko123456: They're being designed by volunteers. One's mainly going to be like Windows SBS.08:02
me101amayzing, it has everything you need to get started08:02
danko123456what is that sbs anyhow?08:02
KsmurfCan someone pls point me in the direction of where ubantu store types of files... I figure / is system files ... /usr are user configs /home are user docs and such... but I'm lokking for a package that was install with synaptic and I am suppose to find the .sh file08:02
danko123456right.08:02
danko123456And more...08:02
p0mIt's mail, dns, directory etc all integrated.08:02
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danko123456And after you connect to the internet, anything you want to install is at your fingertips.08:02
p0mKsmurf: What program was it?08:02
danko123456amazing, as you say.08:02
lexxanKsmurf, If you right click the package and goto properties.. you can see the installed files tab.08:02
Ksmurflmsensors08:02
danko123456the real stuff, how it should be.08:02
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Ksmurfthanks lexxan08:03
abarbacciahey all - how do i upgrade to breezy from hoary08:03
p0mKsmurf: The sh doesn't come with the install :) You just have to copy and paste the script the howto supplies.08:03
lexxanThat would be a downgrade.08:03
abarbacciaor run the "unstable" whatever you want to call it08:03
fsapoman.. ubuntu just isnt perfect for one think08:03
fsapoit doesnt make coffee for me08:03
lexxanoh i misread08:03
p0mlexxan beat it to me.08:03
lexxann/m :P08:03
p0mHeh.08:03
lexxani need sleep08:03
fsapowhen ubuntu learn how to make coffee it will be the perfect os :)08:04
lexxanor more pot08:04
p0mfsapo: Google around, there's a coffee brewing program. There's also an eggtimer.08:04
me101Bill Gates can now go and get stuffed08:04
abarbacciahey guys - anybody here know how to use breezy08:04
fsapop0m, hehe i know it.. i m just kidding :)08:04
p0mThere's also a guide to make coffee machines controllable by serial.08:04
danko123456I misread it because of you too.08:04
danko123456pretty weird.08:04
me101how do I know wether I've got the latest version????????08:04
p0mI made one, all you need is a couple of resistors, a relay, and some wire.08:04
p0mme101: 5.04 is the latest version.08:05
danko123456well, not yet, me10108:05
Anubisfsapo, no, when it learns to allow menu editing it will be perfect08:05
paulproteusfsapo: Especially given the color scheme.08:05
fsapoAnubis, hehe08:05
p0mThere's a testing version of Breezy about, which is 5.10? but it apparently isn't all that stable yet.08:05
danko123456me101: tell me what word)(hoary, warty) in your /etc/apt/sources.list08:05
me101thanks p0m, but how can I tell whats installed on my system08:05
fsapoi m wondering why my clock is ALWAYS wrong =/08:06
me101because as I access ABOUT, it takes me to a WebSite08:06
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p0mme101: Ohh.08:06
p0mI don't think a uname -a would suffice, would it.08:06
danko123456me101: tell me what word)(hoary, warty) in your /etc/apt/sources.list08:07
danko123456add is I guess.08:07
Seveasme101, 'sudo cat /etc/issue' will tell you which version of ubuntu you have08:07
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Seveasme101, dpkg -l will tell you the version of each installed package08:07
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me101<danko123456> dont quiet understand you, sorry08:09
danko123456thats cool08:09
danko123456open a terminal...08:09
danko123456and do what Seveas said08:10
da_bon_bonhiya all08:10
me101ahh, I see in the command line ????08:10
danko123456heyy08:10
da_bon_bondanko123456: hi08:10
danko123456right08:10
danko123456'sudo cat /etc/issue'08:10
danko123456and enter08:10
danko123456no '08:10
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danko123456hehe, so homewrok done?08:12
me101ok08:12
danko123456what version did it tell you?08:12
me101I got it08:12
me101thanks08:12
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danko123456welcome08:13
danko123456which version?08:13
me1014.1008:13
danko123456that is the older.08:13
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danko123456Did you just install?08:13
danko123456just now?08:13
crimsunAnubis: I'm not current with any08:13
danko123456No addons?08:13
me101yes <danko12345608:14
danko123456Cool, you can upgrade then, you never changed anything in the sources.list file?08:14
Seveasme101, if you have a broadband connection, it is advisory to upgrade to hoary08:14
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me101nice interface, but obviously one would still have to get to know some code08:14
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ivokshi folks08:15
me101<danko123456,......... nothing changed08:15
ivoksi hate ubuntu :)08:15
danko123456cool, open a terminal, and type in gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:15
danko123456change every entry of warty to hoary08:15
me101thanks Seveas08:15
ivoks:)08:15
danko123456sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:16
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danko123456then cahnge ity08:16
danko123456then save it and close.08:16
danko123456and then type in sudo apt-get update08:16
harsha_can someone help me install Yahoo Messenger in Kubuntu Hoary release08:16
danko123456and when that is done, apt-get dist-upgrade08:16
paulproteusharsha_: Use Kopete or gaim instead.08:16
danko123456sudo apt-get dist-upgrade08:17
p0mharsha_: That would be kopete or gaim.08:17
paulproteusYahoo messenger for Linux totally sucks.08:17
danko123456then youll update to the newer...08:17
harsha_yeah i have both08:17
p0mpaulproteus: They actually released a client for it?08:17
harsha_but i just want to try yahoo msnger once08:17
paulproteusp0m: Yeah, there's an official AIM, too.  It's total trash.08:17
gorilla_paulproteus, try gaim :-)08:17
paulproteusgorilla_: I use gaim!  I'm warning harsha_ to avoid the commercial, sucky clients. :)08:17
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me101thanks danko12345608:17
harsha_yeah i will have to go back to GAIM08:18
me101I'll follow instructions08:18
paulproteusharsha_: Kopete - have you tried that?08:18
harsha_yeah08:18
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paulproteusharsha_: If you really want, ask me again and I'll look into this closed-source Yahoo messenger.08:18
harsha_kopete is better than GaiM08:18
lexxanall I ask of gaim is to change their default sounds08:18
harsha_hey paul may be u can help me08:18
abarbacciaharsha_, no way - kopete is terrible i think08:18
p0mYou could also try Psi and Exodus, connecting to Yahoo Gateways through the Jabber Network.08:18
paulproteusharsha_: http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html - follow the instructions for Debian08:19
harsha_GAIM has access to yahoo,MSN and all msngers08:19
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harsha_haan08:19
Seveaskopete starts with a K, so it must suck...08:19
harsha_i have done everything08:19
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harsha_including the DEPS08:19
harsha_i have a problem running it08:19
paulproteusSeveas: gaim starts with a G, it must suck.08:19
harsha_i get the error08:19
harsha_Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C08:19
harsha_Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:19
harsha_Xlib: No protocol specified08:19
harsha_Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.008:19
paulproteusharsha_: You must stop running it as root.08:19
lexxanharsha_, Are you su'd to root?08:20
harsha_when i try to run it in a X terminal08:20
p0mpaulproteus: Good call.08:20
lexxanheh08:20
danko123456me101: welcome08:20
danko123456why hate?08:20
harsha_oh i see08:20
lexxanI've done that way too many times08:20
harsha_hang on paul08:20
harsha_lemme try it08:20
paulproteus(Score one point for pattern recognition ;)08:20
harsha_hey paulproteus08:20
harsha_i didnt work as a normal user too08:21
harsha_the error says08:21
harsha_Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C08:21
me101<danko123456, .. sources.list opened read only08:21
harsha_Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server08:21
harsha_Xlib: No protocol specified08:21
harsha_Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.008:21
harsha_Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C08:21
harsha_Segmentation fault08:21
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p0mI think they broke it.08:21
bob2the program is horribly broken08:21
Seveasisn't the display just :008:21
bob2or you have disk corruption/bade ram08:21
Seveasand not :0.008:21
p0mbob2: It's yahoo, I'd put all my money on horribly broken.08:22
paulproteusSeveas: :0.0 - display 0, screen 008:22
Seveask08:22
p0mYou could always try to strace it.08:22
paulproteusThat'd be fun! :)08:22
Seveasouch08:22
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p0mSeveas: :0 is over the network :)08:23
p0mWherease :0.0 is local.08:23
Seveasthou shall not strace closed source programs if thou does not wish to despair :)08:23
p0mHaha.08:23
p0mI have IDA running here.08:23
bob2no08:23
bob2:0 is local, too08:23
paulproteusp0m: That's untrue.08:23
p0mWell, there you go.08:23
paulproteus:0.0 - display 0, screen 008:23
paulproteusXinerama lets you use different screens on a single display, iirc.08:24
fsapois anyone here used to make "dvd backups?"08:24
bob2yup08:24
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harsha_so paulproteus08:24
paulproteusharsha_: go on08:24
harsha_is there any solution08:24
paulproteusYou can try removing that package...08:25
fsapoi wanna know how to make a double-layer dvd fit on a 4.7gb midia =/ anyone here knows how to make it?08:25
paulproteus...and installing the one for RedHat 9.08:25
paulproteusYou'd have to convert it to a Debian package using "alien", but that should be easy enough.08:25
harsha_which package08:25
paulproteushttp://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html - download the redhat9 package08:25
harsha_can u help me do that08:25
harsha_and then08:25
paulproteusIt's really late and I must sleep.08:25
paulproteusalien -d filename.rpm08:26
_4strOthen after dpkg -i filename.deb08:26
_4strO:p08:26
bob2why don't you just use gaim?08:26
harsha_thanx paul i hope that works08:27
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harsha_hey bob208:27
harsha_i think i wll go back to gaim08:27
harsha_gaim does not support yahoo smileys08:27
p0mfsapo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2696508:27
p0mThat should be a good start.08:27
danko123456he left08:28
Xirdnehhi there, does anyone knows how to play .ogm files?, i have xine and xine-lib 01, and vlc, it tells me theres no plug in :s08:28
bob2ogm is a container08:28
Xirdneh.08:28
HrdwrBoB...08:28
bob2you need something that supports whatever is inside it08:28
HrdwrBoBor you could just apt-get install dvdrip08:28
HrdwrBoBand use that08:28
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bob2ie wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:28
Xirdnehso how do i know whats in it?08:29
bob2just get mplayer or whatever08:29
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cvncpuhello08:29
Xirdnehmplayer also doesnt play it :s08:29
bob2then get the will windows dlls08:29
bob2ie, read that wiki page08:29
Xirdnehok, let me go through it, thnx :p08:29
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danko123456mr08:31
cvncpuwhen i try and compile fluxbox i get this error: checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp08:31
cvncpuconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check08:31
danko123456me101: cant be readonly with  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:31
bob2cvncpu: install build-essential08:32
me101ok08:32
cvncpuok08:32
crimsuncvncpu: (or use fluxbox from universe)08:32
paulproteusharsha_: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/themes.php?action=showtheme&id=6608:32
paulproteusharsha_: There are smiley packs for gaim for yahoo smileys.08:32
paulproteusthat's a sample link; others may be better.08:32
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danko123456me101: still read only?08:33
me101I guess automazation, like in Win XP, is yet to be achived08:33
HrdwrBoBautomation08:33
HrdwrBoBno z :)08:34
danko123456well, somewhat08:34
cvncpucrimsun: get it form where?08:34
danko123456its pretty good now...08:34
danko123456just has so many options...08:34
danko123456thats the thing...its advanced.08:34
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me101<HrdwrBoB.......... english teacher, .....thanks08:34
crimsuncvncpu: wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackages08:35
cvncpucrimsun: thanks08:35
syndme101: english teacher?08:36
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syndme101: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=automazation08:36
danko123456windows xp == crap...08:36
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me101sorry, I was just being smart08:36
syndits cool08:37
synddanko123456: everyone knows this08:37
syndwe wouldnt be here if we thought otherwise08:37
danko123456me101: NO NEED TO BE SORRY, THOUGH:)08:38
danko123456HAH CAPs08:38
danko123456nuts08:38
me101movin on, now08:38
me101<danko123456, well, now its crap, having seen UBUNTU08:39
danko123456got upgraded?08:40
syndi really dont mind win200008:40
danko123456i dont mind any...but the compariwson...08:40
syndi *hate* the fischer-price feel of xp08:40
danko123456right08:40
me101indeed08:40
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me101ok08:40
RydekullYou really dont have your facts straight if you say that win2k sp4 is better then winxp sp208:40
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me101<danko123456, come again08:40
cvncpuok wait08:41
cvncpuit says08:41
danko123456did you upgrade your Ubuntu?08:41
me101replace Warty with ?08:41
syndRydekull: lol08:41
cvncpuOn the right hand size of the center panel, you will see two lines with universe at the end. Follow the first line and make sure the checkbox at the left is checked.08:41
cvncpui don't understand08:41
fsapop0m, i have dvdrip here just installed.. but it seems that justs convert o avi or svcd08:41
p0mfsapo: You just wanted to copy the DVD itself?08:42
fsapop0m, yes08:42
p0mErr.08:42
fsapop0m, but some dvd have more than 4.7gb08:42
p0mI'm not exactly sure how you'd go about doing that.08:42
p0mI'm thinking dd, but that probably wouldn't burn back.08:42
fsapop0m, =/08:42
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me101not yet danko123456, I'm still finding my way around this new OS08:43
cvncpufsapo: you're using ext3 i assume?08:43
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danko123456hoary08:44
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cvncpucan anyone help me with my universal problem?08:44
fsapocvncpu, ext3? reiserfs in my partitions08:44
danko123456scroll up, I guess you cant...08:44
fsapocvncpu, but what have ext3 to do with dvd?08:45
danko123456shoulda saved it08:45
finnhi people... is there a way of making my laptop automatically enable it's wireless card (need to press Fn-F1 before the bootup process gets to setting up network at the moment)08:45
cvncpufsapo: reiserFS should support files larger than 4.7GB08:45
jblackI've put up my ubuntu down under pics up. It'll probably be slow for awhile, but http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-200508:45
fsapocvncpu, but the problem is that i cant burn it to a 4.7gb dvd-r disc08:45
fsapocvncpu, i need some kind of compression for the dvd itself08:46
me101danko123456, can you please repeat your instructons, or am I able to look up history on thi IRC ?08:46
cvncpufsapo: try DivX or Xvid08:46
me101*this08:46
danko123456ill get it for ya, sure08:46
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me101thanks08:46
me101deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] / unstable main restricted08:47
me101deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted08:47
me101deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted08:47
me101## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'08:47
me101## repository.08:47
me101## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu08:47
me101## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to08:47
me101## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in08:47
me101## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security08:47
me101## team.08:47
cvncpufsapo: DivX is my personal favorite but XviD has better quality08:47
me101# deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe08:47
me101# deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe08:47
danko123456danko123456: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  danko123456: then save it and close. danko123456: and then type in sudo apt-get update danko123456: and when that is done, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade danko123456: then youll update to the newer...08:47
me101deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted08:47
me101deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted08:47
danko123456dont paste that big08:47
cvncpume101: what file is that?08:47
danko123456its too big08:48
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danko123456there is soething called www.pastebin.org08:48
me101mistake, oops08:48
cvncpulol08:48
cvncpuhey me101 what file is that?08:48
danko123456or www.pastebin.com08:48
fsapocvncpu, i know it i use xvid but...08:48
p0mThere's also #flood08:48
fsapocvncpu, i want to make a dvd to play it on a dvd player08:48
danko123456you paste in, and give us the URL08:48
cvncpufsapo: isn't there a way to get DivX and XviD to DVD format08:49
bob2fsapo: this isn't a "copying cds you rented" channel08:49
fsapobob2, dunno =[08:49
bob2fsapo: try #mplayer or something08:49
cvncpuhellO!08:49
cvncpume101: what file was that you pasted into this channel????08:49
danko123456bob2: haha08:50
p0mbob2: Good call.08:50
me101foreget it, guys, didnt mean to paste it08:50
danko123456I love that guy08:50
danko123456thats fine08:50
cvncpume101: what file?!08:50
me101sources.list08:50
danko123456jsut told you what to do, if you wnt to in the future08:50
cvncpuok08:50
fsapobob2, thanx =P i m asking there08:50
p0mcvncpu: It was his sources08:50
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cvncpup0m: i need to enable universal08:50
ek__go ahead08:51
cvncpuand the "center panal" doesn't exist on my copy of synaptic08:51
jblack(second mention for those that missed the first) I've put up my ubuntu down under pics up. It'll probably be slow for awhile, but http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-200508:51
danko123456Yeah, universal is good08:51
p0mcvncpu: Easist way is in Synaptic.08:51
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p0mjblack: Cool :) I missed it because Treenaks told me a day too late it was on :(08:51
cvncpup0m: synaptic doesn't have this option in the repos menu08:51
cvncpuwhere is that file?08:52
cvncpui don't mind just uncommenting it08:52
fsapo=[ seems that everybody is sleeping on the other channels :P08:52
p0mIt should be /etc/apt/sources.list08:52
p0mOr something similar08:52
me101danko123456, your instructions difer from prior, dont I first need to replace some words08:52
me101you said, replace Warty with:08:53
danko123456hoary08:53
me101ok08:53
me101got you08:53
danko123456then save and all that.08:53
danko123456cool08:53
danko123456do that...08:53
danko123456it will upgrade you to hoary08:53
danko123456the current stable version08:53
cvncpup0m: now i get : W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)08:53
me101and then08:53
danko123456hoary hedgehog08:53
me101something about ity08:53
cvncpuwhere can i find a valid universal repo URL?08:54
p0mcvncpu: Now you have to apt-get update08:54
mptjblack: The guy whose name you don't remember on page 1 is Bjorn Tellenius (sp?), my roommate08:54
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cvncpup0m: ok thanks08:54
p0mDamn, I missed the Launchpad talk.08:55
danko123456me101: whats that last part?08:55
k31thMorning Guys :D08:55
jblackmpt: fixed. Thanks.08:55
cvncpuoik08:56
bob2cvncpu: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto08:56
cvncpubob2: that needs to be updated08:56
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cvncpubbl08:57
geneo93anyone have xmms working with fm radio card08:57
mptjblack: In http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0283 Mako is not the person on the left. Mako is the person on the right, and the person on the left is Breezy icon artist Andrew Fitzsimon08:57
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transgresswhere is the modules blacklist?08:58
bob2transgress: /etc/hotplug/blacklist08:59
transgressthanks08:59
makowow, i look pretty good in that pic08:59
jsgotangcohey mako08:59
mako;)08:59
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makojsgotangco: whats up08:59
mptjblack: I don't know the names of the people in http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0288 but kiko will, I think they're his colleagues08:59
jsgotangcomako, tired08:59
makojsgotangco: unfortunately, i am not08:59
mpt(or two of them are)08:59
makojsgotangco: it's 3AM and i am not tired AT ALL08:59
jsgotangcohaha08:59
jblackmpt: fixed.08:59
makojetlag sucks :)09:00
jsgotangcohey look its andy09:00
makoi should nkow them09:00
makoi think i knew everyone there09:00
mptjblack: in http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0279 the guy on the right is the founder of Kubuntu whose name starts with J09:00
mpterm09:00
JaneWmako: *nod* *yawn*09:00
mptJonathan someone09:00
geneo93tritium:  any ideas how to get that to work09:00
jsgotangcojonathan riddell09:01
makook, in 279, it's jorge bernal on the right09:01
bob2JaneW: did you manage to get a visa to go *back*? ;)09:01
jblackmpt: if you find the name, I'll happily fix it. :)09:01
mptjblack: The person on the right in http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0276 is nobody important09:01
bob2jblack: mpool, not mpoole09:01
makobob2: you joke, but exit visas are quite common in much of the third world09:01
mptdammit I always manage to close my eyes when people are taking photos09:01
makobob2: i've had to get them09:02
JaneWbob2: hehe they were happy to see the last of us actually, and we barely noticed customs in SA.. they were so friendly :P09:02
bob2mako: haha09:02
jsgotangcoJaneW, hey!09:02
makook.. 288 sorry09:02
mako288 is the spainards09:02
JaneWhey jsg09:02
jblackAre you mpt?09:02
jblackAre you the somebody else? :)09:02
mptyeah09:03
bob2jblack: 0258 is whiprush09:03
jblackmpt stands for?09:03
mptMatthew Paul Thomas09:03
bob2jblack: 0253 is paul sladen09:03
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bob2jblack: 0254 is mr business card09:03
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bob2haha09:04
makojblack: in 288 is it's javier carranza, juan jesus ojeda and jorge bernal09:04
Rydekulluh.. where was the meet?09:04
JaneWhaha, it's not that hard09:04
bob2mpt: don't screw up, one of them signs your paychecks09:04
makojblack: from right to left to left09:04
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makoyeah isignyourpaychecks@canonical.com09:04
LevanderHow are you guys installing eclipse?09:04
makoor isignyourpaycheques@canonical.com09:04
JaneWdisplaying the fact that she does wield SOME power09:04
makodepending on your predisposition09:04
bob2JaneW: plus, she knows our names09:05
JaneWthe latter09:05
makobob2: JaneW  doesn't need to know your name09:05
JaneWso do I *sideshow*!09:05
bob2mako: well, true09:05
mpt...cheques@ for the Lightwave employees, ...checks@ for the Canonical employees09:05
bob2dammit!09:05
jblackClaire! That's her name!09:05
makobob2: you are inconsequential to ubuntu ;)09:05
jsgotangcowow i look good in that group pic09:05
mptjblack: http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0257 is Andrew Mitchell from NZ09:05
makobob2: i'm so lying09:06
bob2jblack: aka ajmitch09:06
mpta packager09:06
JaneWanyone uploaded pics yet?09:06
mptright09:06
makobob2: YOU HAVE 100+ IRC WINDOWS09:06
makoTHAT MAKES YOU VALUABLE09:06
bob2mako: 39109:06
makoHOLY FUCKING SHIT09:06
makodid i just violate the coc?09:06
jsgotangcowhoa09:06
jblackthat says something for uptime.09:06
ajmitch_bob2: I didn't do it!09:06
bob2mako: dude, you FUCKING WROTE the CoC!09:06
SeamusLPlanguage alert:  My poor virgin eyes have been damaged! just kidding :P09:06
Rydekulljblack, bob2, mpt: where was the meet? :P09:07
bob2Rydekull: sydney09:07
jblackmako: Its his "free pr0n h33r!!" auto-message bot09:07
jblackRydekull: sydney, au09:07
mptjblack: http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0253 is Paul Sladen09:07
jsgotangcoI got so lost in the CBD last sunday09:07
JaneWyes, I am not sure how many more times I can read 'CoC' without cracking09:07
jblackAt least that's what they tell me. :)09:07
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makobob2: yeah, but i forgot to put in the "by definition mako cannot violate the coc" clause09:07
bob2hahaha09:07
makoJaneW: as far as i know, i am the only person that actually pronounces it coc09:07
jsgotangcohaha09:08
makoand whenever i do, mark theatens to change the name09:08
bob2JaneW: mind->removeFromGutter(), kthxbye.09:08
jblackcute. ;)09:08
JaneWbob2: NEVER09:08
jblackWhat's in the coc anyways?09:08
bob2hahahaha09:08
makojblack: bunch of bullshit09:08
JaneWmako: no I think it's very fitting actually09:08
jsgotangcocan of crap09:08
makojsgotangco: seriously09:08
jblackI never read it. Figured it was as useful as a license agreement.09:08
JaneWcan of coke09:08
bob2jblack: mako made it up so people couldn't blame him for anything09:08
jsgotangcoive read it though but i haven't signed it yet09:09
makobunch of hippy bullshit09:09
jsgotangco"I WILL SIGN IT SOON"09:09
JaneWwe have to sign it!?09:09
makoall about "respect" and "responsibility"09:09
makoJaneW: YES09:09
makoJaneW: seriously though09:09
JaneWCOC!09:09
jsgotangcoYEAH09:09
makoJaneW: any member should09:09
makoJaneW: actually, any member *must*09:09
JaneWmako: I do agree09:09
makoJaneW: not enough09:09
JaneWmakes sense09:09
jsgotangcoi prefer to fax it though09:09
makojsgotangco: that's fine, my fax number is all over the web09:10
jblackMako: I bet I could list a couple people at the company that respect your coc. ;)09:10
jsgotangcoat least you can have a hard copy of the COC09:10
bob2jsgotangco: 1-900-HOT-MAKO09:10
jsgotangcono09:10
JaneW1-900-COC-MAKO09:10
jsgotangco1-900-HOT-MAKO-COC09:10
=== jblack can't believe he just said that
makojsgotangco: too many digets09:10
crimsunmako: could be an extension.09:10
makojblack: dude, pretty soon, everyone in the company that uploads to ubuntu will respect my coc09:11
=== bob2 wonders if the moin can handle the addition of a 1000 line Quote
makojblack: that's on my todo list09:11
crimsunwait, I think that reveals too much about my knowledge of 900 #s09:11
=== mpt can't believe he's having to install extra software just to get DSL working
jblackmako: Just to be clear, you're the coc-master?09:11
makojblack: one could say that09:11
jsgotangcojeezz09:11
makodude, i'm about to ban you all09:11
jsgotangconow i know why we had a BOF to clean this CHANNEL09:11
makoincluding myself09:11
bob2ahahaha09:11
makofor bob2 op me09:12
jblackjsgotangco: What did I say?09:12
JaneWevery commnity memeber will have to accept mako's coc before they'll be allowed to join....09:12
makobob2: ban me09:12
makoor at least kick me09:12
makoand janew09:12
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jsgotangcohaha09:12
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jblackJaneW: do company members need to sign the coc?09:12
=== JaneW behaves
makoi learned my lesson09:12
makojblack: only company members that upload09:12
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bob2JaneW: "NEVER"09:12
jblackBecause I was just thinking.. the company is about 99% male...09:12
Burgundaviajblack, martin pitt is pitti not mpt09:13
jblackburgundavia: Hmm? Which photo?09:13
Burgundavia2109:13
jsgotangcompt is matthew thomas from NZ09:13
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Burgundaviahe is the one who wrote the "rant"09:13
jblackburgandavia: It should be a 4 digit number.09:13
jblack0253 for example.09:14
Burgundavia030509:14
makoi at least have the excuse that i am trying to overcome jetlag by ingesting large quantites of whiskey09:14
makodue to timezones and all, i can't imagine that janew has the same excuse at the moment09:14
Burgundaviamako, do not drink and irc09:14
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ajmitch_mpt: launchpad? :)09:14
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mptyeah09:14
mptFirst: Get a working Internet connection09:15
mptSecond: Get famous from Launchpad09:15
bob2Third: profit!09:15
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Burgundaviawe have succesfully kicked all the normal users off the channel09:15
geneo93oh you think09:16
bob2see09:16
bob2and now we've solved all #ubuntu's problems in one fell sweep09:16
JaneWmako: what time dod you get back home?09:16
bob2er, swoop.09:16
Burgundaviaindeed09:16
jblackI think conference would have been more effective if we had started the day with jello shots.09:16
jsgotangcoyeah mentos can be hard on the face09:16
bob2jblack: amen09:17
bob2mako: is it too late to do a JellyShotSpec?09:17
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jblackOh man. I don't want to see another mento if its the last thing I do.09:17
bob2mentos can be harder on your laptop09:17
bob2if your name is thom09:17
makoJaneW: about 30 hours ago09:17
jsgotangcojblack, i even had some while on the plane doh09:17
nullaresnataHello, how do I tell the driver to use in xorg.conf file for my graphical card?09:17
makoJaneW: i basically used the whiskey recovery method last night as well09:18
bob2nullaresnata: it should be detected automatically09:18
makoJaneW: ended up sleeping like 15 hours straight :)09:18
xukunI dont see the open programms anymore, I have to use the ctrl + tab to switch between programms09:18
jblacknullaresnata: the Driver line.09:18
nullaresnataIt's for a second one.09:18
JaneWmako: insane, but probably effective09:18
bob2nullaresnata: well, what card do you have?09:18
jblackbob2: what window am I?09:18
makowell i like drinking whiskey quite a bit so this is a very convenient excuse09:18
JaneWhehe09:18
nullaresnataThis one:09:18
makotoday, i change windo manager for the first time in YEARS09:19
makoi changed from ion2 to....09:19
mako(get ready)09:19
makoion309:19
nullaresnata S3 Inc. 86c864 [Vision 864 DRAM]  vers 109:19
=== JaneW stuck to red wine on the plane, as phase 1 of detox, and no alcohol since being home
bob2jblack: 11109:19
jsgotangcothat sucks09:19
makoJaneW: i drank red wine on the plane too :)09:19
makolots09:19
jblackI rank 111 in your life? Oh man!09:19
JaneW;)09:19
makodrinking on the plane can be effective, but ends up making me SO dehydrated09:20
jsgotangcohow many movies does a trans atlantic flight show on the plane09:20
bob2nullaresnata: s3, I think09:20
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=== mpt installs a bunch of random packages with "ppp" in their names
nullaresnataThanks!09:20
nullaresnatagonna try that.09:20
makothe two most dehydrating things i do regularly are drinking and flying09:20
bob2jsgotangco: .au -> .uk gives you time for 1309:20
JaneWjsg: about 509:20
makojsgotangco: trans *atlantic*?09:20
makoJaneW: no way09:20
jsgotangco13 movies jeeezzz09:21
darmouIs there a hardware compibility database for ubuntu, I want to get a duel layer dvd burner09:21
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makoJaneW: jfk -> lhr is like 3-4 max09:21
makojfk -> capetown is a whole different story09:21
jblackmako: Hey, where'd you get that battery?09:21
makojblack: it's called a powerpad09:21
JaneWmako: we had 'Ray', 'In Good COmpany', 'Coach Carter', 'Incredibles', Meet the Fockers'09:21
makosearch on froogle09:21
bob2darmou: they generally just work09:21
makoJaneW: that's trans AU and trans indian, not trans atlantic :)09:21
jsgotangcoFockers is good09:22
nullaresnataIt's vesa.09:22
makoi saw every one of those09:22
nullaresnataFound here, on someone's site.09:22
makoand a few others09:22
JaneWmako: oh DUH, yeah INDIAN09:22
jblackWhat do you have? a 120? 160?09:22
makoi did syd -> lax -> jfk09:22
makoit was quite long09:22
ajmitch_we just had one movie for transtasman09:22
makojblack: 120b09:22
makodepends on your laptop09:22
makomy laptop pull between 10-20 depending on how hard i drive it09:23
makoso i get between 6-1209:23
makousually around 10 hours09:23
JaneWok, I got heaos of stuff to do, including figure out how to get GAIM to connect to jabber in Ubuntu...09:23
JaneWheaos - heaps09:23
jsgotangcodoh just use XP why bother09:24
jblackoh darn. Looks like they don't make them for vaios.09:24
jsgotangco*joke*09:24
JaneWmako: cool, I seem to get 1-2 - sucky!09:24
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makoJaneW: buy a powerpad.. they rock09:24
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makoJaneW: i can get them for like $220 US09:24
makoJaneW: if you want one, i can bring it to the next conference09:24
JaneWbtw was anyone working already yesterday?09:24
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bob2JaneW: yes09:25
jblackjanew: Yeah. :(09:25
JaneWmako: I'll think about it, this T42p is pretty cool, but it;s heavy and the battery drains fast...09:25
bob2even after working saturday and anzac day09:25
makoJaneW: i worked yeterday.. or at least tried09:26
JaneWbob2: I worked the previous Sat night and the Sunday b4 the conference, and the wednesday was a public holiday in SA09:26
bob2JaneW: hah09:26
bob2JaneW: make sure you get them back09:26
bob2JaneW: so you can drink red wine all day09:26
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JaneWmako: I was non functional yesterday, wanted to at least go to the gym, but got all sweaty just walking to the couch!09:26
jsgotangcoi like the weather at sydney09:26
JaneWbob2: well it was a holiday here yesterday, so I took it ;)09:27
jblackmako: btw, May 19 is a holiday.09:27
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jsgotangcojblack, the photos are great thanks, i took them all09:27
jblackjsgotangco: Glad to hear it. Next time I'll try to take more.09:28
JaneWany ideas as to why I get 401: unauthorised, if I try to log on to jabber.org/gaim?09:28
jblackjanew: raw guess here, but sounds like user not found to me?09:28
fsapobob2, i managed how to install transcode.. i needed to comment everything but the debian unstable rep, the install some dependencies manually... and then transcode worked :P09:28
bob2oh god09:29
xukunist normal to switch between open programms only with ctrl + TAB in ubuntu?09:29
bob2fsapo: you're using Debian packages as well?09:29
JaneWjblack: ok... I'll fiddle some more09:29
bob2xukun: alt-tab is the default key binding09:29
fsapobob2, yes i do09:29
jblackjanew: maybe you changed your password and forgot.09:29
makojblack: which holiday?09:29
jblackmako: Star Wars opens.09:29
bob2fsapo: that's why you're having so many problems09:29
fsapobob2, is there a transcode package in the ubuntu reps?09:29
makojblack: OMG YES09:29
jblackmako: I've already defined it as a holiday. All day catching up on the old ones to see it in the theater.09:29
jblackThe company can take away my birthday, but star wars.... heh. I don't think so. :)09:30
makojblack: dude, you should come to nyc09:30
geneo93help with xmms-fm plz09:30
makojblack: i'll try to get jbailey down her for it09:30
JaneWjblack: no I am tryig to connect from ubuntu for the first time, so it's all different09:30
makojblack: we can make an event of it09:30
jblackI could probably pull that off.09:30
makojblack: sure, i have space to put you up. in manhattan even09:31
jblackManhattan?09:31
xukunbob2, sorry I mean that yes alt+tab, but I need to see the open programms so I can swith between the with the mice, now I dont see anything till I use the alt+tab key09:31
makojblack: yeah dude09:31
bob2xukun: I don't know what you mean09:31
makojblack: quite uptown, but still manhattan09:31
bob2geneo93: you need to ask a question09:31
jsgotangcojblack, you watch boxing?09:31
jblackSince you've got room, count me in.09:31
xukunhmm09:31
makojblack: think about it.. we have time to think :)09:31
makorad09:31
makoalright.. slee09:32
makosleep even09:32
geneo93bob2:  i want to use fm radio card in xmms how do you get fmr file09:32
mako i think i am sufficiently intoxicated09:32
mako;)09:32
makowho needs melatonin09:32
jblackjsgotangco: Yup. I'm rather new to it (a friend of mine decided I needed a new hobby), but I like it.09:32
bob2geneo93: try asking on the user list09:32
jblackmako: My excuse is "I'm avoiding skin cancer"09:32
geneo93??09:32
[uhelp] ??[x] : Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] 09:32
bob2mako: hah, kinnison tried to buy some in the uk, only to be told it was a "controlled substance"09:32
jsgotangcojblack, because i saw pacquiao in one of your galleries hehehehe...i watched him live like 10 times already when he wasn't that big yet09:33
bob2geneo93: http://lists.ubuntu.com/09:33
jblackjsgotangco: If you can make it to NE-Pa, I have parties from time to time. The next time a good fight comes on ppv, I'll invite you09:33
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jsgotangcogreat09:33
jblackHere in the downtown Wilkes-Barre, PA canonical office. ;)09:34
jblackThat's the one with the bar, the pool table and the bigscreen. :)09:34
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jblackI have a couple guest rooms too, if you care to stay over.09:35
jsgotangcoill look forward to that09:35
geneo93bob2:  no luck09:35
JaneWjblack: any specific server jabber I should connect to?09:35
bob2geneo93: what do you mean, "no luck"?09:35
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jblackjanew: The one you created the account on. Possibly jabber.com or jabber.org09:35
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geneo93i'm looking for a specific thing09:36
bob2geneo93: you need to ask your question on there and hope someone answers it09:36
bob2it seems no one here knows what you're talking about09:36
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geneo93yeah its not like gnomeradio is enough09:39
markanyone here use gmail?09:39
JaneWjblack: hmmm, think it was org... thanks09:40
marki send emails from my gmail account to my gmail account.....09:40
bob2you can't send to yourself09:40
markand both thunderbird and evolution never pick it up09:40
markwhy is that?09:40
markwhy cant you i mean09:40
jsgotangcoits conversation based09:40
bob2don't know09:40
bob2perhaps to stop you trivially using it as a disk09:40
markwell, if i go to gmail and login, the email is there though09:40
marki just cant get it from the client09:41
jblackjanew: So you're good to go now?09:41
marki dont understand this09:41
jsgotangcoif you send via gmail's web interface, the client retrieves it and puts it on inbox09:41
JaneWjblack: no now I get other errors *grrr*09:41
concept10anyone here have success with netgear wg311 wireless pci? any links so i can refer to TFM?09:41
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gooseum can anyone help me with an nvidia driver problem?09:42
jblackjanew: Ahh. You'll find that under the definition of "progress". What's happening now?09:43
bob2goose: way better to just ask09:43
gooseok so I changed the driver from the default "nv" to "nvidia", I followed some steps to get it installed it works fine and all09:43
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goosebut, before when I had the "nv" as my driver I could get 1280x1024@85Hz09:44
goosenow I can only get 1260x1024@60Hz09:44
gooseif it is at 85Hz the desktop is bigger than the view screen and you can kinda scroll around it09:44
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markyou're right09:45
gooseI looked at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the monitor should allow the frequency to be that high09:45
markif i send from the web to client it works09:45
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markif i send from client to client, it doesnt work09:45
markis this the way my smtp is setup perhaps for gmail sending?09:46
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jblackoh man, how did I ever get up to 2k emails a day09:47
JaneWjblack: now it says 'couldn't connect to host'09:47
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jblackjanew: I'm not sure what's wrong. I'm not much of a jabber user either, to be honest09:48
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drcodedHi all09:48
jsgotangcowait ill register to jabber and see what i get09:48
drcodedany one install dri.sf.org?09:48
drcodedI try to install it in ubuntu 5.04 and got lots of error at install09:48
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jsgotangcodrcoded, probably bad media?09:49
drcodedany one setup it09:49
drcodedI did gave in sourecs.list the location of there web site09:50
drcodednet09:50
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drcodedI have old g200 and I want it to support 3d09:50
drcodedwith dri09:50
drcodedthe dri dosnt come with ubuntu ?09:50
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threatG'Day09:52
drcodedjsgotangco :did U install it?09:52
drcodedit need XFree8609:52
bob2lots of dri stuff comes with ubuntu09:52
drcodedubuntu come with xorg09:52
bob2hoary does, yes09:52
drcodedbut I still can't see driect: yes09:53
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drcodedin glxinfo it give me sgi direct:no09:53
bob2the mga dri module comes with ubuntu09:53
bob2and x.org09:53
bob2etc09:53
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drcodedrealy09:53
lukehey does anyone know where to find some howtos on making your own mouse cursors in linux?09:53
fsapo?? dri09:53
[uhelp] dri[x] : No defenition found for word.09:53
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threatyes NVIDIA GLX under Ubuntu, thats pretty much trivial isn't it?09:54
drcodedso how come it still not give me direct:yes09:54
bob2threat: yes09:54
bob2threat: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:54
Myrttihum09:54
drcodeddirect reading: no09:54
drcodedI did by wiki09:54
threatbob2, w00t09:54
drcoded1 by 109:54
threatthanx, "bob"09:54
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fsapodrcoded, what lsmod | grep nvidia gives you?09:55
fsapois nvidia the module name?09:55
fsapohere is fglrx09:56
bob2fsapo: er, drcoded has a matrox card09:56
fsapoO.o09:56
fsapothought it was a nvidia haha09:56
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lukedoes anyone know where to find some howtos on making your own mouse cursors in linux?09:56
Ubuntico#ubuntu #ubuntu-es #linuxpreview #debian-es #debian-do #php-es09:56
fsapoluke, www.justfuckinggoogleit.com09:56
drcodedI dont have nvidia09:56
drcodedI have matrox g20009:57
bob2fsapo: language, please09:57
bob2you will not be warned again09:57
drcodedalso in nvidia it didnt work09:57
bob2drcoded: is X loading the DRI module?09:57
drcodedys09:57
drcodedyes09:57
fsapobob2, sorry =[09:57
drcodedload "DRI"09:57
drcodedand Loca09:57
drcoded load "glx"09:57
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Ubuntico$channel09:57
lukebelive me I have fsapo09:58
bob2drcoded: please file a bug on xserver-xorg, including your Xorg.conf, your X.log (from /var/log/), the output of 'dmesg', 'lspci -n', 'lspci' and 'lsmod'.09:58
drcodedi need glcore?09:58
drcodedalso to load?09:58
fsapoluke, http://www.google.com.br/search?num=20&hl=pt-BR&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=howto+gnome+mouse+cursors&btnG=Pesquisar&meta=lr%3Dlang_en%7Clang_pt09:59
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fsapoluke, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Animated_Mouse_Cursor09:59
lukefsapo thankyou10:00
drcodedI need also to load modprobe mga ?10:00
drcodedor dri?10:00
bob2drcoded: please file a bug10:01
Alien_IIwow10:01
threatbob2, would wouldnt happen to know if there are any Ubuntu wiki's regarding regular users being able to cancel their own print jobs?10:01
Alien_IIhow do u file a bug ?10:01
bob2threat: no, sorry10:01
Alien_IIcool.. u gonna start adding bugs too ?10:01
bob2Alien_II: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, for now10:01
Alien_IIisn't bugzilla for bug reports?10:01
Alien_IIi thought u wanted to implement more bugs :/10:02
Alien_II*hides*10:02
bob2er, ok then10:02
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HelenClarkIs Kaffeine Player Legal?10:03
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bob2"legal"?10:04
HelenClarkyes, in the US10:05
HelenClarkIt plays EVERY video format10:05
bob2as much as anything using mp3 decoders are, I suppose10:05
HelenClarkand with libdvd it is one of the best DVD players I have ever used10:05
HelenClarkI am new to FOSS10:05
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bob2then it probably violates numerous patents10:06
bob2and copyrights, if it uses windows dlls10:06
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Alien_IIhrrrmm10:07
Alien_IIre Kaffeine10:07
Alien_IIsounds like something Lindows should sponsor10:08
RTNI would say that ubuntuguide is a fabulous piece of artwork.10:08
Alien_IIfor all of linux10:08
Alien_IIso that we stop flaming that michael idiot10:08
Alien_II:P10:08
RTNbut... too much information....10:08
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Alien_IIRTN: but wait...10:08
fsapo:oO10:08
RTNi wonder how recent windows converts handle that...? :)10:09
Alien_IIu are providing a link that provides a link that provides a link.. to ILLEGAL SOFTWARE!!!10:09
Alien_IIoh nose!!:)10:09
RTNshaisse, as they say in England :P10:09
RTNor was it Paris?10:09
Alien_IIhaha10:09
RTNand i was actually planning a question about w32codecs :P10:10
Alien_IIu know i really like (K)ubuntu10:10
Kisaini was thinkning of satrting an ubuntu blog10:10
Alien_IIi used to use mandrake and debian10:10
Alien_IImandrake's config tools are cool10:10
Alien_IIhowever...10:10
RTNi used another debian based non-knoppix before...10:10
Alien_IIin (k)ubuntu i did not need config tools10:10
Alien_IIcuz everything just worked10:10
Alien_IIlol10:10
Airokynaptic sucked arse10:10
Alien_IIye10:10
RTNall of my hardware is working i believe...10:10
Alien_IIkynaptic _DOES_ suck "arse" as u put it10:10
Alien_IIsynaptic is much better10:11
Alien_IIhowever10:11
RTNi have not tried infrared and cardreader, but i don't use them anyway.10:11
Airo:)10:11
Alien_IIapt-get is even better:P10:11
RTNapt-get is the king.10:11
Alien_IIwha10:11
Airoyeah, was just thinking of the normal users10:11
Alien_IIi thought it was the queen10:11
RTNi liked the kpackage ...10:11
Alien_IIthats why people liked it10:11
Airowin->lin switchers etc10:11
RTNit shows the description of the package ...10:11
bob2Airo: try synaptic10:11
bob2please file bugs if you have suggestions10:11
fsaponews about ubuntu :) Ubuntu Linux backer tackles collaboration: http://www.builderau.com.au/program/work/0,39024650,39186843,00.htm10:11
Airobob2, have it already10:11
AiroAnd I like using cmdline myself10:11
Alien_IIyep10:12
Alien_IIi like guis and stuff10:12
Alien_IIbut when it comes to installing in linux10:12
Alien_IIi tend to use console10:12
bob2that's the same article as was on zdnet10:12
Alien_IIkonsole even10:12
Alien_IIlol10:12
Alien_IIeven in mandrake i did that10:12
RTNactually i have a problem. i would like to install some stuff which is not in ubuntu reprositories, and.... ftp is closed...10:12
RTNhow should i proceed?10:12
Alien_IIurpmi bla bla10:12
Alien_IIetc10:12
Alien_II:P10:12
RTNgo to nearest wifi hotspot? :)10:12
AiroWell.. I'm an ex gentoo/crux/sourcemage user :)10:12
Airoso console is the thing ;)10:12
fsapobob2, just saw it in the newsforge mainpage10:12
RTNconsole kicks ass. kicked mine 15 minutes ago. will do again in half an hour... :)10:13
bob2RTN: for instance?10:13
RTNtuxracer10:13
RTNtuxcart10:13
bob2both are in ubuntu10:13
RTNson wants them.10:13
RTNhuh?10:13
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ritalinCan anyone help me out with some hardware buying?10:13
Alien_IIi had a similar problem where stuff didnt show in rep10:13
bob2ritalin: best to just ask your question10:13
Alien_IIso i just downloaded them from that ubuntu packages thing10:14
Alien_IIand dpkg -i 'd them10:14
bob2RTN: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto10:14
ritalinI need to know what kind if harddrive this mobo can use10:14
ritalinhttp://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=0-N82E1685611900210:14
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ritalinit says 2x ATA 13310:14
HelenClarkThere needs to be a law that prevents school districts from Using Windows10:14
ritalinnot sure what that means10:14
HelenClarkwe are firing teachers10:14
HelenClarkwhile spending 100K"s on MS Licenses10:14
fsapoHelenClark, haha10:14
HelenClarkits absurd10:14
fsapoHelenClark, bill gates is a little upset with the brazillian government :)10:15
HelenClarkgood for them10:15
fsapoHelenClark, here they are using linux in a lot os public stuff, like libraries, schools, etc10:15
Kisainshoulden't the world be upset with bill gates?10:15
HelenClarkwe are begining to do that10:15
HelenClarkbut they should pass legislation10:15
Kisainfor forcing them to use crappy software?10:15
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Kisainwith major securety flaws?10:16
fsapoHelenClark, in my city's central library the computers uses linux with kde and openoffice10:16
HelenClarkthat is VERY smart10:16
transgresscrap10:16
RTNouch, bob2, thank you very much for answering my SUQ10:16
transgressi keep messing stuff up on this new install heh10:17
transgressbrb10:17
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RTNstupid user question....10:17
goohello :)10:17
transgresshey does anyone know why turning dma on would lock up my dvd drive?10:17
HelenClarki still can't get over how easy Ubuntu is to configure10:17
Burgundaviatransgress, you have an older drive that does that10:17
gooIn phpinfo() i recently discovered that the mysql client api was version 3.23.56 - how do I get the 4.1-series?10:18
transgressBurgundavia: umm... nope... brand new hardware10:18
Burgundaviahmm, then it would be a bug I suspect10:18
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ivoksugh.... hi10:18
ivoksimagine this problem10:19
ivoksI have Desktop dir10:19
ivoksbut my gnome desktop is empty10:19
ivoksit didn't even set right wallpaper10:19
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ivokshm... not even right button on desktop works10:20
hotpiehello10:20
ivoksand that's after last update10:20
ivokssomething is broken10:20
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hotpiecan someone help me stop x on ubuntu10:21
hotpieits for installing nvidia driver10:21
Kisaini gots a new flat panel monitor yay ^_^10:21
ivokshotpie /etc/init.d/gdm stop10:21
bob2ivoks: make a new user.  does that user experience that problem?10:21
bob2hotpie: no, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:21
bob2no need to stop X10:21
Kisainubuntu looks awsome on a 47 in monitor10:21
Kisain^_^10:21
ivoksbob2 sec... reinstalin some gnome-desktop data...10:22
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k31th47 inch "!10:22
Kisainyup10:23
hotpiebob2, how do i do it then?10:23
k31thim going to ubuntu this laptop10:23
hotpiethe installer asks me to stop x10:23
hotpieand generates an error10:23
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ivoksbob2 nope, new user doesn't have that problems... wait till i try my user again10:24
bob2hotpie: read that page10:24
hotpiewhich page?10:24
Kisainthe next laptop i buy will have ubuntu if it's not one of those stupid wincrap only ones :/10:24
hotpieKisain, make sure its NOT one of those before u buy it ;)10:25
Kisainhow to tell?10:25
jsgotangcoKisain, that would be great10:25
hotpiedo some research10:25
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hotpieive been able to put linux on any ibm or dell10:25
hotpieboth nice brands10:25
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hotpiebob2, read which page?10:26
|Fjellheim|Hey i am wondering if it is possible to use Ubuntu on ip.no.com??10:26
simcaHi, I've got a problem with an ISDN-card on an fresh Kubuntu (Hoary) installation.10:27
|Fjellheim|ip-no.com10:27
simcaI installed it according to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IsdnHowtoHoary10:27
simcapon / poff works just fine10:27
bob2hotpie: ...10:27
bob218:21:48 @         bob2 | hotpie: no, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:27
simcaBut the person who is supposed to work with that machine would be very happy about a gui10:28
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simcaSomething like kppp...10:28
ivoksbob2 it was nautilus problem... he took 100% CPU :) freezed :)10:28
Kisaini should start a company to combat mirotard make linux only machenes ^_^10:28
simcaBut i just don't get kppp to work. Has anyone already done this?10:28
drcodedhi all10:29
simcaOh, I forgot: The problem seems to be the following:10:29
drcodedwell I need to install xlibmesa10:29
drcodedand xserver-xfree86-dri ?10:29
simcapon creates a device /dev/capi/0, kppp doesn't10:29
drcodedor it is in ubuntu by default10:30
|Fjellheim|Ok, well let me ask this way, is there a server page for ubuntu??10:30
bob2|Fjellheim|: you need to be more specific10:30
drcodedubunutu use xfree86?10:30
bob2|Fjellheim|: yes, of course you can have a no-ip.com hostname pointing at an ubuntu machine10:30
bob2drcoded: no, hoary uses x.org10:30
drcodedk10:30
drcodedso the DRI for xfree86 will not work10:31
|Fjellheim|k thx10:31
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hotpiebob2 thank u10:32
hotpieim very new to linux, do i need to restart for drivers to take effect?10:32
bob2yes10:33
bob2just reboot10:33
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hotpiek brb10:33
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fsapoanyone here tried the new azureus?10:35
RTNi have sources.list file as it came with default hoary installation, can't find tuxracer there...10:37
bob2RTN: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto10:37
bob2please read that10:37
bob2tuxracer is in "universe"10:37
RTNall right... thank you again...10:38
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fsapobob2, where are you in the globe? usa?10:39
bob2Australia.10:40
fsapobob2, nice :) what time it is there?10:40
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bob2183910:41
fsapoO.o10:41
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fsapo5:41am here.. and i m waiting my coffee ;)10:42
drcodedthe x.org come with dri built in>\10:42
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fsapodrcoded, i think that the dri is installed automaticaly with the xorg10:43
fsapodrcoded, btw is just a guessing :)10:43
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airbusim having some tough trouble if anyone is interested in helping :-)10:45
bob2you need to ask a question first10:46
airbusim trying to import my bookmarks on firefox from another harddrive10:46
airbusdrive is mounted just fine10:46
simca*sigh* I really love Linux, but installation of ISDN-cards is a real pain in the ass *sigh again*10:46
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airbusbut when i browse for file, i dont have access to read the drive10:46
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airbusand its not terminal so i cant rly sudo it..10:46
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fsapoairbus, thats easy10:47
fsapoairbus, its a ntfs partition?10:47
airbusyes10:47
fsapoairbus, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs10:47
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fsapoairbus, just make this page your start page haha10:48
Unfrgivenhey all. during the installation of ubuntu, i chose to "configure network later". how do i bring up the network configuration utility again?10:48
fsapoairbus, its very very useufull10:48
snaderdoes anyone here know a curses, or at least text-based, interactive bittorrent client?10:49
fsapoUnfrgiven, just click.. Applications -> System Tools -> Network Tools10:49
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airbuslol thanks fsapo10:49
Unfrgivenfsapo: ta.10:49
airbusso basically umask=0222 is what allows read10:50
airbusright?10:50
Unfrgivenfsapo: thats australian for thanks :)10:50
fsapoUnfrgiven, got it :)10:50
bob2airbus: umask=00210:50
fsapoUnfrgiven, here ta means "ok"10:50
GBXhi! got a problem with ubuntu live cd. it hangs when starting hotplug subsystem. does anyone know what to do?10:51
airbusbob2, what does umask=002 do?10:51
petemcfsapo: wheres here? anywhere ive been it means thanks10:51
fsapopetemc, haha sorry.. here = brazil10:51
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petemcah :)10:52
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fsapopetemc, where r u from?10:52
petemcireland10:52
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fsapopetemc, O.o10:53
fsapopetemc, hehe we have people from all around the globe here10:53
petemcindeed10:53
hussamwhat was the command  could run from a terminal to check how much disk space is in use?10:53
petemcdf -h10:53
hussamthank you :)10:53
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RTNhuh. what about kdebluetooth? i believe it is not in ubuntu reprositories?10:54
bob2airbus: "make it readable by everyone"10:54
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fsapodamn i need to work but i dont really want to work :(10:56
goofsapo: tell me about it.10:56
fsapogoo, tell you about what?10:56
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transgresshehe sometimes things you type aren't read the way you would say them10:57
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goofsapo: err, I am not a native english speaker, and have watched too many bad american movies.. sorry :)10:57
transgressgoo: it looked fine to me... heh10:58
fsapogoo, lol.. i m not english native.. and as i m not acustomed with english its difficult to write everything correct.. just hope you understand what i m saying haha10:59
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goofsapo: sure :)11:00
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gooMellar: is it raining in Bergen today? :)11:00
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fsapoworking at home is a dificult thing =/ i m too lazy for it...11:02
goofsapo: yeah, mee too.. home office is teh suck. And I want to pick up my new car :/11:03
airbusok11:03
airbusi switched to umask=00211:03
airbusi tried "sudo mount -a" to remount everything11:04
airbusthat didnt work, but a restart did11:04
fsapogoo, what do you do?11:04
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goofsapo: PHP programming11:04
jiyuu0new version of ubuntu add-on cd is out: http://ubuntuguide.org/add-on-cd11:04
goofsapo: we make a Learning Management System11:05
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fsapogoo, i work with php too.. but as a freelancer11:06
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fsapogoo, and today i have to make the part that i hate.. user interface... the bd and the code are ok, now i need to block all possible "stupid actions" that the users could make =/11:07
fsapobd = db11:07
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fsapo?? php11:08
[uhelp] php[x] : No defenition found for word.11:08
goofsapo: yeah, that's my least favourite bit as well.. :(  I made a wifi manager in python/pygtk/glade in the weekend - really fun to get away from the web programming for a while.11:08
fsapoO.o11:08
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fsapogoo, nice... i m thinking about starting with python.. but i still dont know when i ll got the courage to start it11:09
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gooI pretty much program php4 for food. I really hate that ugly hack. Python was my first an most enduring love ;)11:11
goos/an /and /11:11
fsapogoo, hehe thats what i ve started with php... the $$$$11:11
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fsapowhat = why*11:12
goofsapo: I bet .br chicks loves the PHP programmers :)11:12
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fsapogoo, ;)11:13
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fsapogoo, but.. if you think about it... they dont even know wtf is php11:14
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hungerWhere does udev log to? My usb-stick suddenly stopped working.11:14
goofsapo: just thell them it's magic, and you're the wizard with the huge wand. That should do the trick ;)11:14
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goobut now... let me fix this switch(){ blatti; }11:15
Alien_IImight as well do blatti;11:16
Alien_IIhahaha11:16
airbusah i feel stupid11:16
airbustar -zxcv?11:16
airbusis that right11:16
fsapoairbus, why? O_o11:17
gooAlien_II: lol ;)11:17
airbuszxcv?11:17
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airbuswhat parameters are commonly passed11:17
fsapoairbus, tar xzvf11:17
fsapofor .tar.gz11:17
airbusah thank u11:17
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fsapoairbus, tar xvf for .tar11:17
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airbusuh o11:17
fsapoairbus, tar xjvf to bz2 i think.. not sure11:17
airbusits tar.bz211:17
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airbusah ok :0)11:18
gooairbus: tar -xvjf11:18
forsaker8k6ohi people!11:18
goofsapo: ah, didn't see you there :)11:18
fsapogoo, :p11:18
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fsapoforsaker8k6, hi11:18
fsapogoo, i m just doing useless stuff anyway.. installing gdesklets, downloading some animes.. and reading the narutofan forums haha11:19
anto9ushow stable is postgresql 8.02 on ubuntu?11:19
airbusthis is step two of installing my audio driver: "Step 2. Turn on sound support (soundcore module, default turn on)"11:20
airbusis it me or is that overly vague11:20
forsaker8k6...11:20
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airbus"configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH11:22
airbusSee `config.log' for more details.11:22
airbus"11:22
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fsapoairbus, do you have gcc installed?11:23
forsaker8k6airbus, have you got gcc installed?11:23
airbusim not sure11:23
airbus:-(11:23
forsaker8k6fsapo, :|11:23
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airbusthis is my first day using linux11:23
fsapoairbus, apt-get install gcc11:23
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bwbairbus: first day? cool11:23
fsapoairbus, just type in the console: apt-get install gcc11:23
airbusya11:24
bwbairbus: (hope this doesn't sound too strange but..) how old are you?11:24
deadly_omensalut !11:24
airbus21 in 2 weeks11:24
Alien_IIhow many days11:24
Alien_IIhours11:24
Alien_IIminutes11:24
Alien_IIand seconds (if possible) ?11:24
bwbairbus: coo.. go to school?11:24
airbusno im studying coding languages at home11:25
bwbah what languages?11:25
forsaker8k6aribus, maybe it'st better for you to install this package: build-essential11:25
airbusi was going to school but became uninteresed11:25
bwbnod11:25
forsaker8k6simply: sudo apt-get install build essential11:26
airbusphp/mysql/vb/javascript11:26
forsaker8k6*build-essential11:26
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deadly_omenj'ai un ch'ti problem j'ai placer 2 tableau de bord en bas mais quand je reboot elle sont toujours en bas mais plus dans le meme ordre comment je fait pour qu'elle reste dans le meme ordre ?11:26
forsaker8k6O_o11:26
goodeadly_omen: damn right.11:27
NeWiTadeadly_omen: when you reboot save your setup11:27
RTNwhoo... i got some stuff working. now i'm going on a weird path.11:27
RTNi need to connect my phone to computer over bluetooth talking IP over ppp11:28
NeWiTadeadly_omen: erm, quand vous reboot save your setup11:28
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RTNi can manage. ;)11:28
RTNall right, i'll be away for 30 minutes or so...11:28
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NeWiTahow do i uninstall gaim without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?11:30
QuazionApplications->SystemTools->AddRemovePrograms ?11:31
Quazionand then deselect gaim ?11:31
airbusgood god11:31
Quazionthough i think the systemtools menu is in the wrong place11:32
ARDo you use GNOME or KDE?11:33
airbusi cant install this driver for the life of me11:33
airbushaha11:33
airbusStep 3. Complied source code11:33
airbusa. ./configure11:33
airbusb. make11:33
airbusc. make install11:33
airbusd. ./snddevices11:33
ARJoin the club :P11:33
gooNeWiTa: uninstalling ubuntu-desktop isn't dangerous, it's just a meta package.11:33
airbusdoesnt rly work11:33
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NeWiTak, i was trying with apt but it uninstalls ubuntu-desktop along with gaim11:33
NeWiTathks11:33
NeWiTagoo: k, thks11:34
ARMy PC is such new, that even Ubuntu hasn't wrote drivers for it yet :) LOL11:34
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GBX[11:34:17]  <AR> My PC is such new, that even Ubuntu hasn't wrote drivers for it yet :) LOL <-- hehe, i had the same problem :)11:34
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wdh_does anyone know how to install ubuntu (warty) on a pc that does not boot from cdrom?11:35
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NeWiTawdh_: through the network? (don't really know if it's possible)11:36
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wdh_i think bootfloppies are the solution.. but for some reason no one made them11:37
BladlusHi. I have a problem. When I start gnome, the whole system freezes. Any help?11:38
airbusok im gonna try rebooting11:38
airbusmaybe i will have magical audio support11:38
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airbusbrb11:38
NeWiTawdh_: yeah, a bootfloppy will do the trick11:40
NeWiTawdh_: be sure to include cdrom support in it11:40
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harsha_does anyknows what does this wierd error means11:41
harsha_Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C11:41
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harsha_ Segmentation fault11:41
odysseydoes ubuntu do the microcode update for pentium machines?11:41
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airbusok11:42
airbusnow to test this11:42
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NeWiTaharsha_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5467.html11:43
airbusdoes ubuntu come w/ mp3 player?11:44
NeWiTaharsha_: read the first topic11:44
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AzMooAre root logins disabled?11:44
Quazionyes11:44
Quazionuse sudo11:44
airbusAzmoo, you can activate them tho11:44
harsha_yes i am  a normal user11:44
odysseywhy does everybody ask if root is disabled, does no one read the install screens?11:44
AzMooairbus, how?11:44
airbussystem > administratoin > login screen setup11:44
airbusunder Security tab11:45
AzMooairbus, thanks :)11:45
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AzMooodyssey, I haven't installed it. I'm doing remote support.11:45
M3gaBighti'm having problems installing ubuntu. I'm trying to install it using the CD on my IBM R32 ThinkPad, i select language and keyboard etc but it frezes on a screen saying "Retriving archive-copier" with a progress bar at 0 %, any ideas?11:45
harsha_i am usin kubuntu11:45
airbusAzMoo,  its not good practice from what ive learned so far (started linux today)11:45
NeWiTaairbus: no, instructions how to install a mp3 player: http://ubuntuguide.org/ --> search for mp311:45
GudI'm having a bit of problem with unrar. I can unrar the file fine in FreeBSD, but in ubuntu it just says FAILED after each file. Has anyone else had this problem?11:46
airbusAzMoo, supposedly u should be "sudo"ing everything11:46
odysseyGud do you have unrar installed?11:46
Gudodyssey: yeah11:46
VjazAnyone know a way to add bookmarks to directories from a nautilus window? I know I can do that in save/load dialogs, but I haven't found a way to do it elsewhere.11:46
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AzMooairbus, There are arguments for and against. Linspire's CEO has some great arguments for simply using root on a Desktop, and I'm yet to see somebody rebutt them.11:46
odysseyGud i also had an issue with it but i thought it was just me11:47
GudWhat did you do to solve the problem?11:47
VjazAlso, if I run nautilus in "browser mode", it actually has a menu called "Bookmarks", to which I can add directories, but they don't show up in my locations-menu in the panel.11:47
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airbusya i would prefer using root too11:47
airbusi think sudo kinda confuses some stuff11:47
cedjo211:48
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airbusubuntu made me lol for real tho "Linux for human beings"11:48
airbuscmon thats funny on so many levels11:48
jchillerupheh11:48
odysseyGud i didnt, what command are you giving it? i did "unrar -e file.rar"11:48
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Gudodyssey: unrar <filename>11:49
anto9usodyssey: e with no hyphen11:49
odysseyoh11:49
airbusgftp11:49
airbusis that the name of a package?11:49
Gudyes11:49
jchillerupyep11:49
jchillerupAn FTP client for Gnome11:50
petemcisnt it unrar x file.rar11:50
airbusE: Couldn't find package gftp11:50
Gudpetemc: It's that on FreeBSD, I think I have some weird unrar installed on Ubuntu11:50
jchillerupIt is, petemc - that is, if you want to extract file.rar11:50
airbussudo apt-get install gftp11:50
airbusright?11:50
odysseyanto9us, thanks :)11:50
anto9usnp :)11:50
jchillerupYes, airbus .. But perhaps it isn't in the Ubuntu package repository11:50
airbusthat is surely sad11:51
airbushow do i get it in the repository11:51
airbusor is there another ftp client?11:51
GudI'm installing unrar-nonfree now, I hope it works11:51
Quazioni installed gftp from the application->systemtools->addremoveprograms menu item11:51
forsaker8k6the unrar utility is something so unusefull...11:51
Gudforsaker8k6: What?11:51
petemcforsaker8k6: its useful for uncompressing rar files11:51
forsaker8k6yes... if only it would work....11:52
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Quazionairbus, else try http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#gftp dont forget to add extra repositories...11:52
airbusQuazion, thanks11:52
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bet0xHello all11:53
bet0xI have a problem with my dvd11:53
bet0xis not present on /dev/dvd11:53
forsaker8k6i'm trying to install billions of rar files... and it just merrily pops out an error message :D11:53
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bet0xits in /dev/hdd11:53
bet0xand my soft cant detect it11:53
bet0xbut i can use it11:53
bet0xso its working11:53
bet0xhow i create the device /dev/dvd ?11:53
Gudforsaker8k6: It works, you need to install unrar-nonfree11:53
drcodedI replace the g200 with ati rage IIC11:53
rcasbet0x: what soft doesn't work ?11:53
drcodedI hope it support 3d11:53
bet0xWinki the ripper11:53
rcasbet0x: you can do a /dev/dvd symlink I guess11:53
forsaker8k6tnx Gud, i'll try11:54
bet0xi have and not work11:54
rcasbet0x: You're soft should be pointing to /dev/hdc, check the configs and change that11:54
drcodedu talk to me bet?11:54
airbusdoes emacs have code highlighters?11:55
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bet0xi can create a deevice poited to my /dev/dvd ?11:55
bet0xits more easy11:55
bet0xno?11:55
bet0xi dont see a option for reconfigure :S11:55
jchillerupYes11:55
jchillerupDo you want /dev/cdrom (for example) to point to /dev/dvd11:55
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rcasbet0x:  dunno, I would try a : ln -f /dev/hdd /dev/dvd to see if it worked out11:56
jchillerupOr /dev/hdc depending on the master/slave setting of the drive11:56
bet0xits a slave11:56
bet0xroot@darkhole:/media/cdrom0 # ls -lah /dev/dvd11:56
bet0xlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 13 2005-05-03 06:54 /dev/dvd -> /media/cdrom011:56
bet0xroot@darkhole:/media/cdrom0 #11:56
bet0xand i have a sym link11:57
bet0xfor test11:57
NeWiTaanyone knows how to solve amsn's bug that opens not requested chat windows?11:57
bet0xbut not works11:57
bet0x:s11:57
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anto9usNeWiTa: I would have called it a feature, wish gaim would do that11:57
airbusanyone know if emacs has a code highlighter?11:57
M3gaBighti'm having problems installing ubuntu horay. I'm trying to install it using the CD on my IBM R32 ThinkPad, i select language and keyboard etc but it frezes on a screen saying "Retriving archive-copier" with a progress bar at 0 %, any ideas?11:58
forsaker8k6airbus, yes it has... but i really donno how to activate it11:58
odysseyNeWiTa, doesnt it open those windows because the person at the other end opens one?11:58
bob2airbus: of course11:58
bob2M3gaBight: check the md5sum of the cd11:58
bob2M3gaBight: ie "verify disk" or whatever from the main menu11:58
anto9usodyssey: exactly right, I love it, freaks people out when I type before they do11:58
airbusok thanks11:58
rcasairbus: it does11:58
bob2airbus: M-x font-lock-mode11:58
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kev0rhello, after trying GeeXbox, my Ubuntu won't boot anymore11:59
kev0ri just get a blinking "_"11:59
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odysseyM3gaBight, check the install notes on the F keys it says something about IBM machines12:00
kev0ranyone knoez how to fix this?12:00
M3gaBightpl thanks guys, i'll get back on weather this helps12:00
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bet0xhow i umount a device if its busy ?12:02
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jchillerupbet0x, find out what's using it12:02
jchillerupThere's an ls<something> for that12:03
petemcbet0x: find out whats keeping it busy and stop it12:03
jchilleruponly, I don't remember its name12:03
petemclsof or fuser12:03
jchillerupExactly12:03
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airbushmm emacs is a little more hardcore than id prefer it to be12:03
jchillerup:)12:03
airbusanyone know a text editor w/ a little more of a gui12:03
forsaker8k6airbus, try vim ;)12:03
jchillerupnanop12:03
jchillerupnano12:03
francqueMy little sister wants to run ubuntu 5.03, will it run on a 375mhz 384mb ram?12:03
airbusah vim so scary tho12:03
jchillerupYes12:03
jchillerupairbus, try nano12:03
forsaker8k6:)12:03
francqueairbus:  nano is your friend12:03
airbushaha12:04
airbusis that in repository?12:04
jchillerupI guess12:04
forsaker8k6wazwaz... vim rulez!!! ... forever... muahahahah12:04
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jchillerupI don't run ubuntu on this computer, but I HAVE nano on my laptop (running ubuntu)12:04
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jchillerupWorst case is that you need to add a repository12:04
warriorfryo12:05
kev0ranyone hwere know how i can boot my pc again, just hangs after hardware initilisations with a bliking _12:05
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airbusum nano is evn less than emacs lol12:05
francquejchillerup:  but you say 5.03 works fine on 375mhz, 384 mb ram? :p12:05
jchillerupI would say12:05
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jchillerupI don't know it for sure12:05
francqueor was that 'Yes' meant for another person ;p12:05
francqueah ok12:05
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airbusi will learn vim12:05
francqueI will try it12:05
jchillerupBut it has a lot of ram for that small processor12:05
jchillerupI think it'll go smoothly12:05
forsaker8k6that's the right spirit, airbus !!12:06
jchillerupHeh airbus12:06
francquejchillerup:  it needed the ram for win xp :p12:06
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airbusyes jchillerup ?12:06
jchillerupcertainly :)12:06
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jchilleruphuh, airbus ?? "yes"?!12:06
airbusoh i thought you said "hey airbus", my bad12:06
forsaker8k6wow... unrar-nonfree is like to work! amazing....12:06
jchillerup:)12:07
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NeWiTaodyssey and anto9us: it is a known bug, it opens windows that supposedly mean that the other person has clicked to chat with you.. the catch: they don't, it just opens windows randomly12:07
forsaker8k6but.. that nonfree thing... it doesn't like me too much....12:07
bet0xany here know a dvd rip tool?12:07
jchillerupno, sorry12:08
petemcforsaker8k6: it cant handle V3 rar files12:08
forsaker8k6mm... if i only knew what are V3 files... :D12:08
petemcforsaker8k6: probably it would be safe to say the ones that dont work with the free version are V312:09
forsaker8k6:P... really kind definition :D :D12:09
odysseyNeWiTa, wait for them to fix the bug?12:09
jchillerupbet0x, libdvdcss can help you with the actual decrypting of the DVDs12:09
forsaker8k6anyway.. thank you for the hint of installing the nonfree version ;)12:10
petemcbet0x: dvdrip12:10
odysseybet0x, thoggen12:10
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NeWiTaodyssey: that's one way to do it, i was hoping for a more immediate solution12:10
bet0xany test in hoary?12:11
fsapobet0x, what exactly do you want to do?12:11
larsrohdinhi, im having troubles with .xsession... i get the error Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".   in ~.xsession-errors12:11
bet0xi have 7 hours working triying to rip12:11
fsapobet0x, try apt-get install dvdrip ;)12:11
odysseyNeWiTa, google is probably your best bet for an answer or the amsn mailing list if they have one12:11
bet0xfsapo, problems with transcode :S12:11
fsapobet0x, you will need trascode + dvdrip12:11
airbusomg i didnt know gedit had highlighter12:11
airbusill just use that12:11
bet0xim using the official apt-get sources and nothing12:11
fsapobet0x, what kind of problems?12:11
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NeWiTaodyssey: i'm googling for it :) thks anyway12:12
bet0xdvdrip: Depende: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) pero no es instalable12:12
bet0xthat12:12
bet0x:)12:12
fsapobet0x, try apt-get install acidrip12:12
fsapobet0x, but you will need mplayer12:12
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petemcbet0x: add a marillat source12:12
bet0xpetemc, what the deb source?12:12
petemcyes12:12
jiyuu0bet0x, try http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdrip12:13
jiyuu0fresh from oven12:13
forsaker8k6can anyone suggest me some cool repo for amd64 packages?12:13
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fsapobet0x, here to install dvdrip i had to do it: comment everything in the sources.list and uncomment just this one: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main12:13
RTNdid you notice that i joined the Ubuntu channel again?12:14
fsapobet0x, then i installed transcode... and installed dvdrip12:14
Rydekullfisk12:14
RTNfisk is fish in danish?12:14
bad_mongotorsk12:14
ztonzyabborre :)12:15
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larsrohdinXlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". whats the problem?12:16
NeWiTafound a solution: for who it may concern:12:16
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NeWiTaIn stable version (0.94) you don't have the feature to only open the windows when someone sends you a message. For some reason, when you log in, you get plenty of windows opened with no apparent reason. The option to "block" this behaviour only appears in CVS version (0.95b).12:16
NeWiTa:)12:16
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bet0xViolacin de segmento12:17
bet0xSegment fault12:17
bet0xwith acid rip12:17
bet0xxD12:17
fsapobet0x, do you have mplayer installed?12:18
fsapoacidrip and dvdrip are working here ;P12:18
odysseyfsapo, do you find your rips have aspect ratios muddled?12:19
bet0xtesting dvdrip now12:19
fsapoodyssey, no.. everything perfect12:19
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odysseythats good12:21
paulfoxany openoffice guru's here? :)12:22
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kev0ranybody here that can tell me how i can reinstall grub?12:23
kev0rpc not booting anymore12:24
NeWiTapaulfox: ask yout question, maybe someone non-guru knows :)12:24
bet0x  mplayer-nogui: Depende: libbio2jack0 pero no va a instalarse12:24
bet0x                 Depende: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) pero 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 va a ser instalado12:24
bet0x                 Depende: libjack0.80.0-0 (>= 0.99.0) pero no es instalable12:24
bet0x                 Depende: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) pero 1.0.1-1 va a ser instalado12:24
bet0xsome broken packages12:24
bet0xfsapo,12:24
paulfoxi'm trying to get oo to export a presentation, but i need slide+notes. i've got it exporting slides + slides and notes(two lots of slides)12:24
bet0x:/12:24
fsapobet0x, ?12:25
bet0xi dont have mplayer12:26
bet0x=/12:26
fsapobet0x, just a moment12:26
fsapobet0x, try this: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer12:26
NeWiTapaulfox: that i can't even google for :D maybe somebody else here knows?12:27
paulfoxNeWiTa, yeah i can't find anything...does microsoft work have export to pdf? i might have to use that12:28
Disc00rdDoes Multimedia Player support Mp3's?12:28
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NeWiTapaulfox: yes, it has export to pdf, if that solves it :)12:29
paulfoxta12:30
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bet0xripping i think12:33
bet0xi see a progress bar12:33
bet0xbut i dont know XD12:33
jiyuu0bet0x, that instruction at ubuntuguide will only rip xvid12:33
fsapobet0x, xD12:33
jiyuu0i'm still lookin on how it could rip divx12:33
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bet0xany here speack spanish?12:34
fsapojiyuu0, dvdrip i think.. btw xvid ownz divx :P12:34
jiyuu0dvdrip won't rip divx off the shelf12:35
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jiyuu0have u manage to rip divx12:35
jiyuu0using it?12:35
odysseyoac bets xvid12:35
bet0xim ripping12:35
bet0x:O12:36
jiyuu0bet0x, in which codec u ripping?12:36
yonilHuh? my computer stuck, so i did alt+ctrl+backspace, but now it came back as 640X480 and i cant change the resulotion (640X480 is the only option) - any help?12:36
bet0xffmpeg12:36
bet0xmpeg412:36
odysseyyonil, ctrl + alt + +12:36
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me101hi guys12:36
jiyuu0bet0x, have u tried divx?12:36
yonilodyssey, that doesnt do anything :\12:37
odysseypress - instead of plux12:37
odysseyplus12:37
bet0xdivx dont works12:37
bet0xyes i try12:37
fsapobet0x, good luck :D12:37
bet0x:D12:37
bet0xfsapo, 30' and its ripped12:37
bet0xmy dvd-rw its scsi12:37
bet0xand my hd too12:37
bet0x:P12:38
yonilodyssey, again nothing, as i said i dont have any options to change the resolution to .. :(12:38
bet0xi love speed12:38
bet0xxD12:38
me101I was trying to find a way to update today to UBUNTU 5.0412:38
fsapobet0x, acidrip works... but dvdrip is far better :P12:38
bet0xacid dont works to me12:38
bet0xim a little noob with dvds12:38
me101and if anyone wants to do it, go to: "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504"12:38
jiyuu0bet0x, u notice the output... seems like there's line12:38
jiyuu0u get the same thing?12:38
fsapome101, apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get dist-update or someting like it :P12:38
odysseyyonil, then you will have to edit your xorg.conf12:39
wdh_fsapo, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade12:39
me101thanks, but I've done it12:39
wdh_yonil, try running rsandr12:39
fsapowdh, thats it ;) it worked for me like a charm12:39
wdh_xrandr12:39
kev0rHow do i create a bootdisk with sata included?12:40
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bet0xi love my Sony BW-F101 :)12:40
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bet0xmy system its a little broken after test's12:40
bet0xwoody 2 warty patched to hoary12:41
bet0xx12:41
bet0xxD12:41
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yonilwdh, what about it ?12:41
yonil*0    640 x 480    ( 217mm x 163mm )  *6012:41
yonil 1    320 x 240    ( 217mm x 163mm )   6012:41
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hussamI have a kodak cx7310 usb digital camera. what software do I need to get it to work on ubuntu?12:42
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karljphussam: depends what you want to do.  have you tried just plugging it in and running gphoto?12:46
bet0xim ripping and looking a movie withthe same dvd12:46
bet0x:O12:46
hussamkarljp: no I just plugged it in.12:46
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kev0rnobody here that can help me, getting desperate12:48
hussamkarljp: i'm installing gphoto and gtkam now12:49
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cyberixExecuting perl -e "fork while fork" locks Ubuntu up. Ubuntu should have some limits to solve this.12:52
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cyberixThis can't be allowed to happen to a normal user12:52
petemccyberix: thats old news12:52
petemcand it affects more than just ubuntu12:53
tshortallubuntu and most other distros have generous per-user resource limits12:53
tshortallby default12:53
tshortallif you want to tighten things up you can.12:53
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cyberixtshortall: They can't be set by heuristic?12:54
cyberixtshortall: To avoid complete lock up.12:55
tshortallnot sure what you mean. as in the limit should change to react to user's demands on resources?12:55
karljpcyberix: bullshit12:55
cyberixkarljp: ?12:55
karljpgui ubuntu is 99% of the time going to be used by 1 person12:55
karljpso if you forkbomb yourself....12:56
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cyberixkarljp: What, if a software bug fork bombs you?12:56
tshortallyeah, but ubuntu is also going to be used in multi user situations.12:56
cyberixkarljp: Lets say something in login phase12:56
scorpixis there somthing like deltarpm for .deb packages?12:56
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cyberixkarljp: A normal user can't make his system work anymore.12:56
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karljpcyberix: then go run your netbsd mr security12:57
cyberixSo he has to reinstall Ubuntu.12:57
karljpand stop whining about potentials12:57
membreyain mounting an NTFS harddrive to allow EVERYONE access, without using UIDs, would a chmod 777 on the mounted directory allow access?12:57
karljpwell, it would,12:57
membreyabut? :P12:57
tshortallugh. this is getting nowhere. if you are in a situation where forkbomb is a potential problem just  change the settings :12:58
karljpbut you're just going to get wierd errors when people try to write to it :)12:58
membreyalol ;)12:58
membreya775 ? :P12:58
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NeWiTaanyone plays or knows about a popular mmorpg for linux?12:58
membreyaNeWiTa: I use a java based web client one :P12:58
airbusok im goin to bed12:58
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NeWiTamembreya: for which game? :)12:59
airbusive been tinkering for 6hrs straight now12:59
karljpmem: are you putting it in fstab?12:59
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airbusgnite guys thanks for all the help12:59
membreyakarljp: ya12:59
no0ticI've a problem with a microphone, I can hear it but I can't use it as recording source, how I can do it?01:00
karljpmem: I just have /dev/hda1       /c              ntfs    umask=0222 seems to work just fine for me.01:00
karljpI should probably put "ro" in as well.01:00
stianhhello01:01
karljpare youhaving problems with people not being able to get to it?01:01
stianhanyone with experience with gnomad2/libnjb01:01
stianh+01:01
stianh? I seem to be having trouble getting libnjb to realize that I have connected my jukebox01:01
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larsrohdinXlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0", whats wrong?01:02
larsrohdinanyone?01:03
hussamkarljp: i install gtkam but it won't detect the kodak digital camera01:04
NeWiTamembreya: for which game? :)01:05
draclarsrohdin: http://www.pastebin.com/27902901:05
draclarsrohdin: That's xorg.conf..01:06
drachussam: Try changing the mode in your camera to PTP.01:06
drachussam: And you need to be in 'plugdev' or was that 'camera' group.01:06
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fabiohi All01:08
fabioguys I need a little help01:08
fsapofabio, falae char :)01:08
fsapofabio, hi :D01:08
fabiosHi fsapo01:08
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fabiofsapo could u give me a help?01:08
hussamdrac: I added my user to group camera? what's PTP?01:09
fsapofabio, it depends on your question.. btw just ask it :)01:09
drachussam: Don't ask me, it's just that libgphoto2 (gtkam) supports some cameras only in that mode.01:09
fabioeverytime I start Ubuntu two errors come up to the screen, just after logged in, telling me that two folders (which they were on the Desktop) cannot be found01:10
drachussam: Logout, login to make that groupadd in effective ..01:10
hussamok, brb01:10
fabiobecause I deleted one, and renamed the other01:10
fabiofsapo, drac, any idea?01:11
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fabioI mean, is Ubuntu all the time trying to launch the folders on the Desktop?01:11
larsrohdinthat worked, but now i get this error...Failed to load groupfile:01:12
larsrohdinBScreen::BScreen: managing screen 0 using visual 0x23, depth 2401:12
drcodedhi all01:13
stianhfabio: perhaps selecting "save session" when logging out will work. You might have had these windows open when leaving gnome and saving the session, when you then deleted it it now tries to load them but fails01:13
drcodedI have strange error when I try to apt-get install xorg-driver01:13
stianhjust my initial thoughts01:13
fabiostianh, yes u right, I now remember it!! I did save it, so do I save my session again, without those folders, as the current status is now?01:15
larsrohdinis anyone here good with .xsession-problems?01:16
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fabioGuys, is anywone here involved into Ubuntu development?01:17
lifelesstheres a rumour01:18
fabiolifeless, what?01:18
drossfabio: #ubuntu-devel has people like that ;)01:18
fabiooh thanks a lot dross01:18
lifelessthere are plenty of devs here too01:19
drosslifeless: yes, but they stay quiet :)01:19
larsrohdinthey are watching us....01:19
fabiocool, well I was going to create a web-site based on Ubuntu01:19
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fsapofabio, where are you from?01:20
fabioItaly, but live in UK01:21
drcodedit give me /quit01:21
drcodedexit01:21
drcodedexit01:21
drcodedexit01:21
drcodedexut01:21
larsrohdinexut?01:21
drossdumb BX user....01:21
larsrohdin=)01:21
drossBX is for kids01:21
fabiofsapo, why?01:21
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beerockxscan anyone help me get my gameport joystick to work?01:21
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fsapofabio, nice.. cause you have the same name as me :) and i m brazillian.. and fabio is a very common name here01:23
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drcodedWhy I got this error : dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/libGL-no-dri-trunk.so.1 by xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk'01:23
drcodedany idea?01:23
DeMonetHi, what's the fastest way to get Ubuntu CD's in South Africa ? Anyone have any ideas ?01:23
fabiooh cool, I didn't know that, I have a friend from San Paulo01:23
drossDeMonet: download then :)01:23
dross*them01:23
drcodedI got it in apt-get01:23
DeMonetdross: *grin* Over a 28k8 modem ? No thanks ! :)01:24
drossDeMonet: it should only take you a month ;)01:24
beerockxsanyone?01:24
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onkarshindeHas Firefox 1.0.3 been added as security update in ubuntu repositories?01:35
GNAMwhat's your favourite newsreader?01:35
dracGNAM: What's yours?01:35
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GNAMi've not tried any01:35
lewwyhey can anyone here help with with an install of SuSE 9.3 DVD live?  I get a source not defined error01:36
draclewwy: Do you realize in what channel you are in?01:36
lewwyyes01:36
lewwybut i also realise that no other distro has live help01:36
dracsigh.01:36
lewwyespecially SuSE01:36
lewwydude if you want i'll go away01:36
dracInstall Ubuntu then.01:37
lewwydont have to act hard done by01:37
fabioUbuntu is the vest01:37
fabiobest01:37
lewwyyeh i used to have it01:37
lewwyi'll install it when my cd's come01:37
lewwytill then SuSE looks the best and works the best for smee01:37
lewwyso noone can help?01:37
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fabio15mins for a full Ubuntu installation on my budget pc01:38
lewwyok01:38
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lewwywell from what i can see01:38
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lewwysomeone can either send me the ubuntu cd's, or i can continue to use SuSE01:38
lewwythe ISO's are too big for me to get01:38
fabiowell, wait until u get from the post then, where u live lewwy?01:39
NeWiTawhat connection do you have?01:39
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lewwyaustrlia, beenleigh01:40
lewwyi have 256/128 w/ 10g limit01:40
lewwybrother owns it01:40
lewwyso if i kill the limit01:40
lewwyhe kills me :P01:40
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fabiooh, hmm I thought u were inE01:41
fabioEU01:41
NeWiTathe connection isn't bad, the brother owning it is :D01:42
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fabiobye guys01:42
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lewwyhehe01:43
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lewwyso anyone wanna send a CD to me gratis?01:43
AstralJavalewwy: Have you checked the site? There should be a way to order a cd free!01:43
lewwyyeh01:44
lewwyshipit01:44
karljpoptus or telstra?01:44
lewwyhad them on order since the beginning of last mointh01:44
lewwytelstra01:44
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karljpso no end of month leeching then01:44
karljpand isn't mirror.aarnet free for you?01:45
lewwyiunno01:45
lewwyis it?01:45
karljpI think so.01:45
bob2lewwy: if you ordered before hoary came out, you should get them in the next couple of weeks01:45
karljpget on #sydney on irc.ausnet or whatever it is and ask01:45
karljpor read your whirlpool01:45
karljpI'm pretty sure that you can get isos for free with both telstra and optus01:45
HrdwrBoBkarljp: aarnet is using optus bandwidth01:46
HrdwrBoBbut I'm pretty sure that telstra mirror hoary somewhere01:46
karljpdoes telstra provide nothing?01:46
beerockxscan anyone help me get my gameport joystick to work?01:46
karljpyeah, I'm pretty sure telstra has some sort of deal for isos01:46
amnesiadoes anyone know what the logout menu hibernation and standby exactly do? are they hard coded or do they execute the /etc/acpi/ scripts01:46
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bob2amnesia: the scripts01:47
thoreauputicbob2, Now on Hoary :)01:47
bob2hah01:47
thoreauputicat last01:47
amnesiabob2: so standby.sh and hibernate.sh. Thank01:47
amnesias01:47
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occy*sigh*01:48
occyMy Ubuntu desktop locked up again.01:49
occySomeone here asked me about if the numlock key was working while it locked up.01:49
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occyI can say now that, no, the numlock key isn't working.01:49
occytried: alt+sysreq+s  + u +b01:50
odysseyoccy boot with noapic nolapic options in grub01:50
occythat doesn't do anything either.01:50
occyodyssey, hi there.  What do those options mean?01:51
occycool first letter of your nickname.01:51
occy:)01:51
karljpif that kid with telstra broadband comes back, tell hiim files.bigpond.com has isos for him to download that don't go towards his quota01:51
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matidHi01:52
thoreauputicany particular reason anyone can think of why my cpu should be bouncing between 5 and 25% on Hoary when it never did so on warty in the same situation?01:52
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karljpit's all the secret computation that ubuntu is doing in the background01:53
occyodyssey, I'll try that.  Running through memtest86+ now.01:53
karljpshuttleworth is actually running the numbers on his theories to take over the world01:53
thoreauputickarljp, ;)01:53
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thoreauputichehheh01:53
karljpubuntu is just a big social virus to get his own personal gridcomputing set up01:53
matidDid anyone came across DVD+R writing problem in Ubuntu Hoary? My DVD+R blank discs appear on the desktop as CD-ROM Discs and cannot burn them...01:53
thoreauputicwell at least my mouse isn't jumping about of its own accord...01:53
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bretzelkarljp: ?01:54
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bretzelkarljp: Thus, Microsoft Windows is just a big CAPITALIST virus to get his own personal gridcomputing set up :-) :-)01:56
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matidanyone know?01:57
thoreauputicwhat I have here looks more like an anarchist virus :001:57
jacquesmerdewhat does the "%u" in "firefox %u" do?01:57
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jacquesmerdei tried to find the answer to the above question on google, but google didnt seem to like it01:58
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jacquesmerdegoogle doesnt seem to like "%"01:58
Nalioththoreauputic, are they different pkgs than the normal xfce4?01:59
thoreauputicNalioth, just the hoary ones for 4.2 I think, with rox-filer etc01:59
amnesiajacquesmerde: u is the first parameter?01:59
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jacquesmerdewhy are paramaters being passed with "%"? and what does the u paramater do?02:00
RTNhuh.02:00
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RTNi'm missing flashplayer for mozilla...02:00
bretzeljust read Thoreauputic's puzzle about CPU load and firedup "top" then : what is that "multiload-apple" process running ??? it eats 3% off the cpu ???02:00
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RTNno for firefox02:00
RTNflashplayer for firefox... how can i?02:01
karljpgoogle for ubuntu restricted formats02:01
karljpit will return a useful wikipage which has how to install it02:01
matidDid anyone came across DVD+R writing problem in Ubuntu Hoary? My DVD+R blank discs appear on the desktop as CD-ROM Discs and cannot burn them... ???02:01
bretzelRTN: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/02:01
anto9uswill postgresql 8.02 install ok on hoary?02:02
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amnesiamatid: try to unmount them before burning02:03
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dcravenHow is everyone today?02:04
karljpexcellent! I just got called up for a job interview02:04
karljpand yourself?02:04
RTNouch. thank you again. i will have to document it all for my own usage...02:04
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dcravenkarljp: Nice! Congrats!02:04
dcravenI'm okay.02:04
gorilla_karljp, best of luck with that :-)02:04
karljpthanks :)02:04
anto9usdcraven: I'm good, I'm absolutely thrilled with ubuntu02:04
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RTNhow come that ubuntu does not have a flash-player plugin, but has firmware for ipw2100?02:05
RTNboth are non-free...02:05
dcravenanto9us: Glad to hear it. It kinda bit me too.02:05
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karljpprobably because of the exact type of non-freeness02:05
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karljprestrictedformats/nonfree is a pain02:05
anto9usthe framework for my application server is all set up, just have to import the data and it will be running02:05
dcravenRTN: It has a flash plugin no?02:05
davekempe_RTN - I asked shuttleworth about that - he said they draw the line at hardware drivers as the only non-free in ubuntu02:05
RTNso the same applies probably for w32codecs...02:06
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RTNin know the reply already... wiki... :P02:06
RTNwiki is too much information...02:06
RTNlooks like the flash thing works now...02:07
karljphttp://beeroclock.net/highlife.cgi02:07
bretzelRTN: tse tse!!! ssshhht!!02:07
karljpI wonder if I'll get a job today, or whether I'll make 300 days.02:07
bretzelkarljp: sorry but in what kind of job are you appointed for ?02:07
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karljpnothing yet :)02:07
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karljpgeneral programmer position I'm interviewing for02:08
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jacquesmerdecan ANYone tell me what the u paramater does in firefox %u? the firefox launcher uses it in ubuntu02:08
VjazAnyone know how to make Metacity snap windows to edges and other windows?02:08
bretzelkarljp: lucky you!!! I have 12 years of knowledge in C/C++ programming but NO degree!!! this kind of job is not for me :-)02:08
bretzel:-(02:08
amnesiajacquesmerde: told you. that's the first parameter of the program02:09
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matidjacqesmerde: probably the URL02:09
peanutAnyone free to help me with a corrupt rndc.key?02:09
dcravenkarljp: The interview is today?02:09
karljpyeah, later this afternoon.02:09
dcravenkarljp: Holy. Good luck!02:10
Naliothtime for work02:10
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Naliothsee y'all later02:10
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jacquesmerdeamnesia: you didnt tell me what the paramater WAS though02:10
jacquesmerdeso where is the value of %u set, to link it to the actual url?02:11
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amnesiajacquesmerde: well what would it be?02:11
bretzelkarljp: yes, wish you very good brain shape, relax, and be a bit humouristic when no important situation to answer -- especially if there is a women :-) :-)02:11
amnesiajacquesmerde: of course anything that you pass to it02:11
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RTNso what means marillat?02:12
amnesiajacquesmerde: a monkey, an apple, or an url02:12
dracRTN: Marillat is a person.02:12
dracRTN: Christian is his first name.02:12
amnesiadoesn't matter, it is _a_ parameter :)02:12
RTNif the context is reprository?02:12
janisxhello can anybody help me with openoffice02:12
jacquesmerdeamnesia: so where does ubuntu store the url value of %u?02:13
dcravenRTN: It's just a repository that some guy maintains of stuff that is not typically in the Debian repos as far as I understand.02:13
RTNwhat help you need with openoffice?02:13
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RTNokey, if something is in marillat, how do i add this into my reprositories?02:13
amnesiajacquesmerde: nowhere. that one is coming from the application02:13
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RTNis the marillat synonym of multiverse or something?02:14
amnesiaRTN: no. that is just one repository02:14
petemcRTN: theres plenty of info on marillat in the wiki02:14
RTNthat's what i mean: plenty=too much....02:15
dcravenRTN: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories02:15
RTNbeen there already.02:15
karljp(just don't try and install mplayer from marillat, it's easier and faster to build form source)02:15
RTNi'm there now actually...02:15
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HrdwrBoBkarljp: or you can get it from universe02:15
dcravenRTN: Well then I don't understand what you want.02:15
RTNsorry guys, boss wants me... thanx anyway.02:16
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karljphrdwrbob: well, it seemed to want to use the mplayer one for me, maybe I didn't try hard enough to say, use vesion from Y, not X02:16
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dcravenMplayer is in *multi*verse02:18
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janisxhow can I use shortcut on OpenOffice for non-us language02:22
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RTNhuh. boss wants the same thing... w32codecs :P02:22
joha1hello everybody..02:22
RTNi'm the bad guy, i have converted 60% of our office from windows to Ubuntu...02:23
RTNno... 75%02:23
RTN6 out of 8.02:23
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janisxcan u help me please02:23
occyBios Bug local #0 apic not detected.02:24
dcravenjanisx: I don't see a switch for it at the command line if that is what you mean.02:25
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janisxAlways on Ooo, when I use my non-us keyboard can't for example use CTRL+B02:27
dcravenRTN: I think I'm using the w32codecs from the Backports project.02:27
Chameleon22alright in that case the question is, whats the difference between iptables -t filter -F and iptables -t filter -X ?02:28
RTNall right, half of my problems start with ftp being closed...02:28
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jiyuu0RTN, if u need to install those apps on many PCs... try the add-on cd02:28
jiyuu0it's offline02:28
jiyuu0offline installation of all the apps02:28
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RTNI don't consider 6 being many... of course 7th one is at home...02:29
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dcravenjanisx: I hate to pass the buck, but I don't know anything about OpenOffice. There is a channel here called #openoffice.org thought that may be able to help.02:30
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dcravenPeople still use ftp?02:31
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dcravenheh02:31
karljpunfortuantely yes :(02:31
karljpI have to ftp to my webhost, no ssh.02:31
dcravenkarljp: I wonder why that is?02:32
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dcravenkarljp: They cater to Windows users I suppose. FTP was all I ever used as a Windows guy. I'd never heard of ssh.02:32
janisxthanks dcraven02:32
dcravenjanisx: No problem. I hope they can help.02:32
joha1I'm having problems to understand the way permissions work in ubuntu.02:32
joha1 I can't copy  dokument from for example the "Home" map to /usr/lib in Gnome.02:32
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joha1Im newbie:-/02:33
dcravenjoha1: Users only have write permissions to their home directory.02:33
karljpdcraven: more that ssh is still "new" compared to webhosting.02:34
karljpand if they offer ssh, then they have gumbies with shells,02:34
karljpwho would then complain if it was more limited than a real shell.02:34
dcravenjoha1: Typically, that's all they need. If you *need* to copy a file to /usr/lib like you say, prepend "sudo" to the copy command and type your user password when it asks.02:34
karljpI can understand why they do it.02:34
jiyuu0joha1, or u can try sudo nautilus02:34
dcravenjoha1: But be careful when you use sudo, you can do *anything*, including bad things :)02:35
Cowlike-awayssh just runs whatever shell the user is defined to run on the host machine02:35
RTNif i do a new install, can i keep the contents of home directories. i have separate partition for /home at the moment...02:35
dcravenI keep forgetting about nautilus.02:35
jiyuu0seems like there isn't a menu item for File Browser (as root)02:35
dcravenkarljp: I don't get it.02:35
dcravenRTN: Absolutely. That's what I do.02:36
RTNcool. basically if i screw up, i can start all over...02:36
Cowlikessh is better than telnet and ftp because telnet and ftp send your password in the clear while you are authenticating02:36
anto9usis there a binary for postgresql 8.02 somewhere?02:36
HrdwrBoBdcraven: I use it constantly02:37
dcravenjiyuu0: You're right.. I just see root terminal.02:37
HrdwrBoBalthough not sudo nautilus02:37
jiyuu0dcraven,  i'll add that to guide as a tip02:37
jiyuu0create a new shortcut File Broswer (as root)02:37
RTNare the mr marillat reprositories available through http also, or only ftp?02:37
jiyuu0at Applications -> System Tools02:38
dcravenanto9us: Hmm.. Looks like 7.47 is it.02:38
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anto9usty dcraven02:38
dcravenjiyuu0: Good idea.02:39
dcravenanto9us: ;)02:39
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RTNwhat happened?02:39
resiakSomeone set up us the bomb!02:39
Cowlikenetsplit?02:39
dcravenHuh?02:39
RTNlooked pretty cool. :)02:40
dcravenI have parts/quits filtered.. Everyone left?02:40
Cowlikevarious servers within the freenode network quit communicating02:40
dcravenAhh 299 nicks now.. eek02:40
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joha1dcraven: and  jiyuu0: yes what I want is to  get the pop up window in gnome so I can give root rights to write..02:41
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YaroonI get dpkg: serious warning - file list files missing for package xxx with every apt-get I try...02:41
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joha1dcraven: and  jiyuu0: yes what I want is to  get the pop up window in gnome so I can give root rights to write..02:42
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joha1Can I turn this funktion on somehow??02:43
Kisainwhats the command for reconfiguring grub after putting a second hd in?02:43
rudi-rudihello all..02:43
dcravenjoha1: You can create a launcher with the command "gksudo nautilus" or something like that.02:44
joha1I wan't to be able to work in gnome..02:44
beerockxscan anyone tell me what i need to do to get a gameport joystick to work?02:44
dcravenjoha1: I'm just not sure why you need root permission to do work, but it's your machine :)02:44
Cowlikewhy is he trying to write to /usr/lib via nautilus?02:45
Kisaincan sme one tell me the command to reconfigure grub?02:45
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dcravenKisain: update-grub?02:46
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joha1dcraven: okej I see...I don't understand what ether? I think mayby I have change some defult seting?02:46
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dcravenKisain: That will write it for you, I don't know if that is what you want though.02:46
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dcravenjoha1: Can you explain what you are trying to do? Maybe we can help better then.02:47
dcravenbeerockxs: Is it an analog stick?02:47
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drcoodedHI all02:48
dcravenbeerockxs: Or what kind of joystick is it? You probably just need to load the appropriate kernel module.02:48
dcravendrcooded: Hello!02:48
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drcoodedif I have ATI RAGE IIC , It can use 3d in glxinfo?02:48
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HrdwrBoBdrcooded: only if you're desperate02:48
HrdwrBoBand even then probably not02:49
drcoodeddirect rendering: No02:49
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drcoodedhow02:49
drcoodedI check some probjects but not with ubuntu02:49
drcoodedI Mean I didnt find solustion in debian how I Can install it?02:49
HrdwrBoBa Rage IIc ?02:49
drcoodedyes02:49
HrdwrBoBI'm not sure it'll ever work02:49
drcoodedI Have two option ATI RAGE IIC or Matrox G20002:50
HrdwrBoByou're talking about a video card that's like .. 8-10 generations (I think) old02:50
HrdwrBoBG200 will work02:50
drcoodedI Dont know how it better02:50
drcoodedrealy02:50
HrdwrBoByes02:50
HrdwrBoBthe G200 has full open source 3d support02:50
drcoodedI try the G200 without lack02:50
HrdwrBoBand is a faster chip02:50
drcoodedrealy02:50
HrdwrBoBhowever they are both ooooold02:50
drcoodedhow I Can make direct rendering: No to yes?02:51
drcoodedI Know02:51
RTNg200 should be really good with 3d...02:51
HrdwrBoByou won't get 3d performance worth a damn02:51
joha1dcraven: okej..my english spelling is not so good,, but I only want to move one text file from my home map to some other map in the system. Thats is!!02:51
drcoodedk02:51
drcoodedbut How I can make it work 3d?02:51
HrdwrBoBdrcooded: why do you need direct rendering?02:51
joha1dcraven: Using Gnome gui!!02:51
drcoodeddirect readering is 3d?02:51
drcoodedno?02:51
drcoodedI run some games in wine02:51
HrdwrBoByes, but why do you need it02:51
HrdwrBoBwhat games?02:51
HrdwrBoBa G200 is barely capable of playing quake202:52
RTNtuxracer? :)02:52
drcoodedand it slow , so SOme where I Read that I Need 3d02:52
HrdwrBoBwhich has a native version anyway02:52
drcoodeddirect rendering: No is for 3d?02:52
mjrdrcooded, yes, it means there's no 3d acceleration02:52
drcoodedI mean direct redering is for 3d?02:52
elcudrcooded: direct rendering: yes means you have 3d acceleration enabled02:52
drcoodedk02:52
beerockxsdcraven: an analog stick02:53
CowlikeHrdwrBoB, native version or no, it's gonna run like shit unless he gets his 3d acceleration working02:53
drcoodedg200 can have 3d acceleration?02:53
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HrdwrBoBCowlike: true02:53
beerockxsi modprobed joydev, but jstest /dev/js0 gives me "jstest: no such device"02:53
RTNi have experienced that you have to load some modules in correct order to get it working...02:53
drcoodedI Mean?02:53
HrdwrBoBg200 should have 3D acceleration02:53
drcoodedso I could'nt use it02:53
RTNfor me it used to be intel-agp and radeon... but at the moment... newer kernel...02:53
jfk303hi I have a directory <dir> owned by root, but want user <jim> to be able to have full access to it?02:53
drcoodedit all the time in no02:53
RTNit looks like drm and radeon...02:53
beerockxsusing a CMI8738 card02:54
RTNno there is agpgart also...02:54
HrdwrBoBcoulf be a problem with your motherboard02:54
drcoodedHrdwrBoB : what I need to do for 3d acceltion to work?02:54
beerockxsand i did set the kernel module option to enable the joystick02:54
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dcravenbeerockxs: try "sudo modprobe analog". I think that will also load the gameport module too.02:54
HrdwrBoBdrcooded: spend <US$50 and get an nvidia 5200? :)02:54
RTNdrcooded, i would say: take a look at lspci02:55
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drcoodedU think it will be faster to use there 3d accelrtion?02:55
HrdwrBoByes02:55
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RTNand what does the .... pci bridge....... processor to agp line say....02:55
drcoodedbut U said g200 can be 3d acclration on?02:55
HrdwrBoBtrying to use a G200 for 3d games, you might as well render them with a pencil in real time02:55
schasiHehe02:55
mjrcome now, it might run tuxracer ok ;)02:56
HrdwrBoBthat said; it should work02:56
drcoodedI see02:56
drcoodedk02:56
elcuis the g200 older than the mx440?02:56
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HrdwrBoBpaste the output of dmesg, lsmod and your Xorg.0.log02:56
drcoodedyes02:56
RTNelcu, correct.02:56
HrdwrBoBelcu: by a considerable margin02:56
drcoodedk02:56
Andrilhello all02:56
elcuah, then he's buggered02:56
elcu:)02:56
drcoodedI Will do shotdown02:56
drcoodedand install it again02:56
drcoodedsee U soon02:56
RTNouch... gotta run again...02:56
HrdwrBoBdrcooded: installing again wont' do it02:56
dcravenjoha1: Your English is fine. I think I understand what you want. The simplest way to do this is by pressing Alt-F2. This will show you the run dialog. Type "gksudo "nautilus --browser /home/username" where username is your own username. This will ask for your password, and give you write access everywhere.02:57
beerockxsdcraven: still get the "no such device" error02:57
HrdwrBoBoh well02:57
HrdwrBoBhrm02:57
HrdwrBoBcome to think of it02:57
dcravenbeerockxs: Hmm.. I've never actually used a joystick, but I thought that would work.02:58
HrdwrBoBhe might well be using PCI cards02:58
HrdwrBoBin which case they'll never work02:58
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dcravenbeerockxs: Any clue in dmesg when you load that module or plug in the stick?02:58
HrdwrBoBI think he needs a video card made in this century02:58
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dcravenPCI video doesn't work?02:59
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beerockxsnothing about those modules in dmesg03:00
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dcravenDoh?03:01
Kisainthat might be it03:01
Kisainthnx03:01
Kisaini'll try it and be back03:01
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Isi'm a newly converted linux user and i03:12
Isve heard03:12
Isgood things about ubuntu.03:12
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Quazioni can tell you more very good things :)03:12
Iswhy is it the shiv?03:12
Quazionit works out of the box03:13
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Quazionits free, no non free software installed03:13
Quazionits the best of the gnome and debian world03:13
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Isi really need midi to work properly, is it guaranteed?03:13
Quazionit has 6 month release schedule03:13
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QuazionIs, no idea... hehe03:13
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rudi-rudignome inside ;-)03:14
Quazionits not really a multimedia distro since most multimedia things are non free03:14
Quazionso mp3 and mpeg,dvd are not included in the default install03:14
Quazionthough for small business its a dream come tru...03:14
rudi-rudiubuntu - when dreams come true.. ;-)03:15
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Quazionjust waiting for OpenOffice.org releases version 2.003:15
Isi see03:15
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dcraven"The shiv"?03:17
Isgot a cell phone?03:17
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chetif i installed win2k, after ubuntu, grub will be erased, is there a recovery method?03:20
chetsill me---   http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+grub+recovery&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial03:21
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joha1dcraven: sorry I don't get it..I write  "gksudo nautilus" and get the login root popup. Then I get to a window called root..Am I on the right track?03:22
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KeizerMorning guys03:22
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joha1dcraven: What to do now?..03:23
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dcravenjoha1: Well you didn't write what I said to write.. But you are on the right track I guess.03:23
abarbacciaanybody using breezy and know how to get beagle working?03:23
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joha1dcraven: It did't work for me or I diden't understand what you ment03:24
dcravenjoha1: In the Run Dialog, type this: gksudo "nautilus --browser /home/$(whoami)"03:24
dcravenjoha1: That will open the browser in your home directory, with root permissions I believe.03:25
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joha1dcraven: Ok ..It is working:)03:26
dcravenjoha1: Good. Be careful when you are in there.03:26
karljpmy removable harddrive ha sbeen mounted with a umask of like 070003:26
karljpanyway I can make it a bit more useful?03:27
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karljpI can't serve webcontent of the removable harddrive as www-data can't read it03:27
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dcravenabarbaccia: Does this work? --> http://www.beaglewiki.org/index.php/UbuntuInstall03:27
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sakazhi all03:28
Bazzi-karljp change the umask? ;)03:28
dcravenkarljp: Is it in fstab?03:28
sakazi just started Ubuntu this night03:29
dcravenHey sakaz03:29
joha1dcraven: Yes ..but I don't want root acsess by defult I want Ubuntu to ask me to enter a root pasword if Im going to write in root maps..03:29
sakaz:)03:29
karljpbazzi: yeah, how do I do that though?03:29
karljpthere's no fstab entry for it03:29
karljpit just gets done automagically03:29
sakazdo you have some good documentation for installing samba on Ubuntu03:29
Bazzi-mmh03:30
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Bazzi-did I mention already that I hate the unix rights management? ;)03:30
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dcravenjoha1: Right click on the desktop, chose "Create Launcher" and create a desktop shortcut that way maybe? The "command" portion can be the same thing you typed into the Run Dialog. Then you'll have a shortcut on the desktop that does it for you.03:30
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angel12how do i download the kernel headers/ source for hoary?03:30
tritium_angel12, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:31
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Bazzi-angel12 apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r`03:31
Bazzi-arr03:31
Bazzi-:(03:31
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dcravensakaz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba03:32
guruffhello; how i can pass my ip as a parameter ????????03:32
dcravenguruff: I'm confused already.03:33
joha1dcraven: okej..I will do so. Is this only on my system or a defult ubuntu thing?03:33
guruffdcraven; some_script -p XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX <- i need XXX to be my ip03:33
dcravenjoha1: It's a Linux thing. Users don't have permissions to write to system directories (eg. /usr/lib). Just their home directories.03:34
guruffdcraven; any ideas?03:34
dcravenguruff: I think it depends on the script.03:34
dcravenguruff: Are you trying to find out what your IP address is?03:35
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dcravenguruff: If so, you'll find it in "ifconfig".03:35
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guruffdcraven; yeah know tha03:35
MikeEnIkeHey can anyone help me partition my hard drive for buntu using Patition Magic?03:35
guruffdcraven; i'm using no-ip dns03:35
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joha1dcraven: But then I used fedora it asked me for root password like synaptic do in Ubuntu..03:36
dcravenguruff: I'm still not quite sure what you are asking then I guess.03:36
guruffdcraven; ok03:36
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guruffdcraven; i need to exec: no-ip -i <ip>03:36
dcravenguruff: Okay.03:37
guruffdcraven; and wan't this to happen without me having to type it manually :)03:37
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bluesignis there a way i can use evolution to access my gmail account [other than POP3] ?03:38
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dcravenjoha1: Root works a little differently in ubuntu than in Fedora I'm guessing. Ubuntu disables the root account by default. For more info, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:39
dcravenbluesign: gmail doesn't support IMAP if that's what you're asking.03:40
joha1dcraven: If you are moving one dokument from the home map to for example urs on your computor what hapens?03:40
beerockxsdcraven: I think i found the problem why the gameport doesn't work, the module ns558 won't load03:40
bluesigndcraven: is there a plugin or something to read webmail from evolution?03:40
joha1dcraven: don't you get a root log in window?03:40
karljpjust use pop and leave the mail onthe server :)03:41
dcravenjoha1: I've never tried it. Give it a shot and see what happens :)03:41
karljpyou lose some of the imap love of flags and stuff03:41
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bluesignkarljp: yeah, i was thinging about labels and stars03:41
tritium_karljp, only downside is the messages deleted in evolution don't get deleted on gmail account03:42
nanaemhi, anyone know what's wrong? in XFCE i can't run the synaptic package manager, it just says i have the wrong password. but in gnome it works fine, and i know i have the right pass.03:42
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seraphielwhere can I get aclocal,autoheader and the like?03:42
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fragspazi am having trouble with my gfx card03:43
karljpif you use pop and leave messages on the server, you should be able to set up your mail client to delete messages on the server that you deleete locally03:44
fragspazi cant do anything that uses OGL or it shuts off03:44
fragspazthis has only started happening since i installed the driver03:44
dcravenseraphiel: build-essential03:44
dcravenseraphiel: I think autotools is in there.03:44
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seraphieldcraven: is it a res?03:44
fragspaz?03:45
dcravenseraphiel: a res?03:45
joha1dcraven: what happens?:)03:45
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AzMooDoes anybody know why I wouldn't be able to receive messages through AIM using Konversation?03:46
seraphieldcraven: do I put it in sources.list?03:46
dcravenseraphiel: apt-get install build-essential03:46
dcravenseraphiel: I'm not positive it's part of that, but I'd assume it is.03:46
fragspazi am having trouble with my gfx card i cant do anything that uses OGL or it shuts off this has only started happening since i installed the driver03:46
seraphieldcraven: it seems to be working :) thanks03:47
dcravenjoha1: Write permissions error... Just as it should.03:47
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tritium_seraphiel, build-essential has many tools you'll likely want for development, but not autotools03:47
bluesigndoes anyone know VS.NET replacement ? or is it working on WINE?03:47
tritium_apt-cache depends build-essential03:48
dcraventritium_: Crud.03:48
seraphieltritium, it`s the autotools I need.. want to build e1703:48
tritium_dcraven, no worries03:48
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dcraventritium_: There must be a metapackage for autotools somewhere.. I'm lookin'.03:49
tritium_seraphiel, there are autotools-dev, automake, autoconf packags03:49
tritium_packages03:49
karljpbluesign: vs.net replacement in what way?03:49
karljpa great big IDE?03:49
dcravenseraphiel: Installing automake will drag in autoconf et al.03:50
bluesignkarljp: i wanna code c# with windows form designer :)03:50
karljpso use windows?03:50
CarlKapt-get install autoconf03:50
bluesignkarljp: i am trying to use only one OS03:50
karljpsoooo use windows?03:50
dcravenkarljp: I don't think so. Windows forms isn't a popular thing in Linux I don't think.03:50
karljpif you are a competent, windows can be made reasonably nice.03:51
dcravenkarljp: You're nasty.03:51
seraphieldcraven: and then I`m good to go with e17?03:51
karljppeople are using windows forms with mono,03:51
bluesignkarljp: but i love ubuntu :)03:51
CarlKbluesign - check out http://dabodev.com03:51
dcravenseraphiel: I didn't say that :)... I'm sure e17 has many dependancies.03:51
joha1dcraven: aha! okej thank you very much for your time and help:)03:51
karljpbut not the vs.net designer03:51
dcravenjoha1: Anytime.03:51
seraphieldcraven, I`ll give it a try ;)03:52
CarlKbluesign - find the "dabo demo on Ubuntu Live CD" page03:52
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EightRabiafter a fresh install of Hoary, xorg only offers 640x480 (as described in bug 5917).  Is there anything I can do to get a better resolution?03:52
seraphieldcraven: missing libtoolize03:52
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CarlKbluesign - it isn't winforms/C#, but it will help you write nice database apps that are cross platrom03:53
dcravenbluesign: Visual Studio works great in VMWare though, if that is an option.03:53
gabrielhi03:53
gabrielcan I get some support?03:53
jjessesure we can try and help you what up?03:53
CarlKgabriel - yes, you need to click some things03:53
bluesignthanks all03:54
dcravenseraphiel: I guess that's not included in the automake depends then eh?03:54
gabrielwell03:54
gabrieli have some problems with hotplug03:54
bluesigndcraven: what is the performance of VMWare?03:54
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jjessedepends on the ram correct?03:54
seraphieldcraven: found it.. tracing deps atm03:54
gabrieli upgraded my system from warty03:54
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gabrieland it doesnt boot with the latest kernel03:55
dcravenbluesign: Depends on your machine.. Lots of RAM is nice. I have 728 in this laptop and it ran quite well. I had to boost the ram to 728 specifically for VMWare to be satisfactory though.03:55
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gabrieli rename hotplug script03:55
gabrielan it boot03:56
bluesigndcraven: hmm RAM is not a problem, i will give it a try03:56
dcravenbluesign: But that of course is satisfactory to *me*.. Adequate performance is subjective. It was usable before the extra ram.03:56
nanaemanyone know why the sysaptic package monitor won't accept the password in XFCE, but works fine in gnome?03:56
dcravenbluesign: You'll be happy with it then for sure.03:56
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gabrielof course it isnt the solution03:56
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elcuhello, anyone know of a program that can save realmedia streams for offline viewing?03:57
EightRabiI'm using a voodoo5 with a viewsonic A90 monitor.  All of it appears to have been detected properly, yet xorg only runs in 640x480.  How can I downgrade back to xfree86?03:57
jupitersteI have a IBM ThinkCentre which is freezing up consistently, Debian users are reporting the same kind of problems, and it was recommeded to change the "IO-APIC option (X86_UP_IOAPIC = n)" does anyone know where that setting is located?03:57
bluesigndcraven: can i find it on Synaptic?03:57
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elcui had a good one in windows, but haven't found an alternative in linux03:57
dcravenbluesign: No. VMWare costs money.03:57
Aneresscusate..qual  il canale ubuntu italiano?03:57
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bluesigndcraven: hmm i see03:58
Dark3Litehey  guys03:58
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elcuAneres: er, #ubuntu-it maybe03:58
Dark3Litewhen I   sudo apt-get install xmms03:58
Dark3Lite Package xmms has no installation candidate03:59
gabrieli try to install a fresh hoary but always get a kernel panic03:59
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tritium_jupiterste, that's a kernel parameter.  You'd have to compile a new kernel, and change that value.03:59
jjessewhat repositories do you have Dark3Lite03:59
gabrielthen a think a have to deal with hotplug03:59
jjesseisn't xmms in multiverse or something like that03:59
dcravenDark3Lite: Sounds as though your sources.list is b0rked.04:00
Dark3Litelol04:00
Dark3Litehaha04:00
Dark3Liteso what can I do to correct it?04:00
dcravenjjesse: No it's in main.04:00
jjesseah thanks for correcting me dcraven04:00
dcravenjjesse: hehe.. np04:00
Dark3Litedcraven what can I do to correct it?04:00
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karljpcomment out most of them, and do apt-get update04:01
dcravenDark3Lite: Hmmm.. It kinda depends on how it got messed up. Can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to www.pastebin.com and I'll have a look?04:01
karljpwhat have you got besides standard ubuntu ones?04:01
Dark3Liteaiight04:01
Dark3Litecool04:01
EightRabiwhen using hoary, do I have to use x.org, or can I use the previous x-window-server?04:01
Dark3Litedcraven04:01
Dark3Litelol..04:02
dcravenThere was a guy in here a couple of days ago with the same problem, I look at his sources.list on pastebin and he had every line commented.04:02
Dark3Liteall is commented..04:02
Dark3Litelol04:02
jupiterstetritium_: is there an easy way to do that or is it complicated?04:02
EightRabiand, is there a one-line apt-get command I can use to "downgrade"?04:02
Dark3Liteexactly04:02
dcravenhaha04:02
Dark3Litejust looked at that04:02
Dark3Litelol04:02
fragspazwhats the location for my mounted floppy?04:02
dcravenDark3Lite: Silly you.04:02
Dark3Liteadding some now..04:02
tritium_jupiterste, if you've never done it before, you may find it a bit complicated, but it's not too bad.04:03
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karljpfrag: /media/floppy probably04:03
dcravenfragspaz: typically it's in /media/floppy04:03
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fragspazthanks dcraven04:03
karljp(/me was first :P)04:04
dcravenfragspaz: No problem. Thanks karljp :)04:04
gabrielanyone have an idea?04:04
Dark3Liteshit04:04
Dark3Litedc04:04
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karljpshopping thyme for me *waves*04:04
Dark3Litedcraven, uncommented all..and getting the same errors04:04
dcravenDark3Lite: sudo apt-get update04:04
Dark3Liteyeah04:04
Dark3Litejust ran the command..04:04
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Dark3Litethanks..04:04
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Dark3Liteeveryday is a learning session04:05
gabrielyes i know04:05
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gabrieli ve kill esound to listeninq music04:05
dcravengabriel: I think if you can determine which module is causing problems, you can add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist and it will not be loaded by hotplug at boot time.04:06
guruffdcraven; that's what i was trying to do myip=$( /sbin/ifconfig | grep -A1 ppp0 | grep 'inet addr' | cut -d ":" -f 2 | cut -d " " -f 1 )04:06
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guruff:P04:06
yarrhi04:06
gabrielthe problem is that i didn t get any errors04:06
dcravenguruff: There you go dude. I was gonna suggest parsing ifconfig's output :) Nice.04:06
yarrthought this channel would only allow registered nicks to speak... perhaps I was wrong and was being ignored=)04:07
dcravenyarr: I think anyone can speak in here.04:07
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gabrieli spent a lot of time reading the logs04:07
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gabrieland i couldnt find anything04:08
yarrdcraven: haha!  at least someone can hear me, thanks for the verification--I'll keep trying my question...04:08
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dcravengabriel: I think you've narrowed it down to some module that hotplug is loading though right?04:08
gabrielit freeza loading hotplug system04:09
dcravenyarr: I haven't seen your question yet.. Or at least noticed it.04:09
gabrielbut not errors04:09
dcravengabriel: I don't think I have enough knowledge of hotplug to be useful.04:09
gabrielyes but thanks04:10
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gabrielsorry about my english04:10
yarrdcraven: fresh install of hoary, x.org won't allow me to pick a resolution beyond 640x480.  There was a bugzilla ticket opened for it, but no resolution.  Should I "downgrade" to xfree86?04:10
tritium_yarr, no, most likely should try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:11
yarrtritium: thanks I'll give it a go!04:11
dcravenyarr: Probably downgrading is not the answer. Typically I've seen similar problems when monitor specs are not detected properly.04:12
gabrieldcraven?04:12
tritium_yarr, if that fails to solve it, we'll need to look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:12
gabrieldid you check your xorg,conf file?04:12
dcravenyarr: Try what tritium_  said, then you could try http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:12
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dcravengabriel: What am I checking my xorg.conf for?04:13
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gabrielsorry it was for yar04:13
gabrielr04:13
dcravenOkay :)04:13
gabrieli cant do two thing at the same time04:13
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yarrtritium: I'm looking up monitor sync values right now, never was asked for this stuff, chances are the monitor reported incorrect values during autodetection at install time--the log file reported invalid modeline errors04:15
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tritium_yarr, right.   See the URL from dcraven too, okay?04:15
dcravenyarr: You are probably on the right track with that.04:15
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yarrI will everyone, brb after a restart of X, thanks again for all your support!04:15
gabrieledit xorg.conf04:15
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AnguShi there! i just migrated my debian sarge server to ubuntu hoary, everything fine so far, dist-upgrade updated some packages... however there are a number of packages that are still debian, how can i upgrade those?04:16
NixerXAnyone use slapd?04:16
yarrgabriel: I did, I'm gonna double check the sync values for the monitor, thanks for your suggestion04:16
AnguSfor example, sarge's apache2 is 2.0.54 whereas hoarys is 2.0.53, but i would like to get the hoary package installed04:16
gabrielyerterday i did it in my crux linux04:16
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gabrieland it works04:17
dcravenAnguS: dist-upgrade does nothing more?04:17
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AnguSdcraven nope04:18
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AnguSis there a practical way to see, with dpkg or some other tool, if an installed package is from debian or from ubuntu?04:18
dcravenAnguS: I'm looking.. I can't remember how to see what is installed using dpkg..04:19
nanomaderr..a question...wich are right permissions on /dev/dsp?04:19
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AnguSi did a dpkg -l but i just see the versions, and not all ubuntu packages have the ubuntu suffix in the version so it's not of much use :P04:20
gabrieli not sure but ithink rx-rx-04:20
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tritium_AnguS, dpkg -l.  Otherwise, apt-listpackages is a nice tool for that.04:22
dcravenAnguS: I'm not sure there would be a way then. I upgraded my school machine from sid to Hoary but wasn't concerned which versions of things were still being used.. As long as it works :)04:22
gabrieli my case04:22
yarrthat did it everyone--the installer's choice of vertical sync was off by 3004:22
gabrielcrw-rw----  1 root audio04:22
gabrielthe sound works04:22
tritium_yarr, :)04:22
yarrI'm in love, once again ;-)04:22
dcravenyarr: Cool.04:22
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dcravenheh04:23
yarrtritium_: sometimes you just know these things04:23
gabrielbut nanomad04:23
nanomadyes?04:23
tritium_yarr, heh :)04:23
rudi-rudigabriel, try sudo chmod a+rwx..04:23
AnguSdcraven as i'm running a server i'm concerned that all packages should be ubuntu and get upgraded when a security issue arises, right now my debian packages are kind of leftovers ehhe04:23
gabrieli have to kill esound04:23
gabriello listening04:23
gabrielmusic04:23
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dcravenAnguS: Makes sense.04:23
nanomadi use kde04:23
yarrtritium_: your sister, Debi Ann, is also lovely04:24
SlackShrikewhere I find documentation on casper04:24
SlackShrike?04:24
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gabrielrudi-rudi04:24
gabrielthe permisions are ok04:24
gabrielthe problem is esound04:24
tritium_yarr, I'm glad you got it working04:24
SlackShrikewhere I find documentation on casper?04:25
gabrielit not the first time04:25
yarrtritium_: I'll double-check the wiki, too.  Maybe I missed something.04:25
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dcravenSlackShrike: Depends on what casper is.04:25
tritium_yarr, have you restarted X?  Do you have higher resolutions now?04:25
MabusHi, I'm having some problems booting the Hoary LiveCD on a Acer TravelMate 250 - it seems to work fine all the way up to the point where it tries to start X... I presume I have to boot with a different vga= option or something - can anyone help me figure it out ?04:26
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rudi-rudigabriel, hm.. and /etc/esound ?04:26
yarrtritium_: yep, ran dpkg-reconfigure, but really only changed the vertical sync value04:26
tritium_yarr, ok04:26
yarrtritium_: restarted, good resolution now.04:26
tritium_good deal04:26
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gabrielwell04:26
SlackShrikedcraven: Casper is the package for the live-cd04:26
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gabrielthis not the first time i have problems with alsa and esound04:27
Mabusit won't be the last time either.04:27
gabriely just kill esound for ever and the things works04:27
tritium_SlackShrike, Kamion just told you04:27
Mabusanyway, I tried that vga=771, but that didn't work ...04:28
dcravenSlackShrike: If you are trying to customize the CD, there is --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo04:28
dcravenDamn, I gotta split.. Later!04:28
Mabusmaybe that vga option is for the textmode part of the boot process, and not the X setup ?04:29
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gabrielMabus, What message did you get?04:31
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SlackShrikedcraven : I am like create a Live with my kernel and other programs04:31
SlackShrikedcraven : I am like create from debian-installer with casper04:32
gabrieli gointo to do the same some day04:32
Raskallhey, hey, hey.. a temperature of 44 degrees celsius. Not bad. Getting the hang of power management now. it's only a week since I couldn't get the temp below 70.04:33
Mabusgabriel: I'll boot again to give you the exact message, but it was the standard "X could not start / do you want to see the error output yes/no" message.04:33
gabrielcheck the options04:34
Mabuswhich ones ?04:34
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gabrielwith f2 f3 f4 f504:34
Mabusyes, I've looked through them04:35
Consumerhi guys, I didn't really have the time to play with iptables so I put firestarter on my box04:35
ConsumerI did iptables -L to see what was going on04:35
Consumerand got this huge list04:35
MabusI tried using vga=771 debian-installer/framebuffer=false noacpi nolapic04:35
Consumerone of which was:04:35
ConsumerChain NR (1 references)04:35
Mabusbut got the same error04:35
Consumerwith about 200 items04:35
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Turmsi've downloaded hoary, is it possible to use the selection of packages i have from sarge (dpkg --get-selection > select030504:35
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gabrielwhat is your video card?04:36
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JaZy84hey can someone help me use makefile04:36
MabusI'll have to check the acer website, 2sec.04:36
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Mabus(at least it would take 2sec if the acer homepage wasn't dead-slow)04:38
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tritium_JaZy84, you should install make-doc, and then read the docs with the help browser04:38
JaZy84alright thans04:38
tritium_It's a good read, well worth it.04:38
Paralla1I have an error with my kernel04:38
tritium_JaZy84, are you trying to use or create a Makefile?04:38
JaZy84well i have a program i wrote (for school) in c++ that has 2 c++ files and a *.h file. i want to use make so i can just compile the set.04:39
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Paralla1I compile the 2.6.11.8 with no errors, but I reboot and says: Kernel Panic unable to mount root partition, or something like that at the very begginig04:39
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Mabusgabriel: SIS VGA04:40
TurmsMabus lspci doesn't work?04:40
AnguSParalla1 check if you compiled the correct driver for your hard disk controller, and if you compiled the correct file system support04:40
Fish-FaceIt appears that my Networking settings (default Gateway, active devices) are not saved on reboot04:40
MabusTurms: my problem is that I can't boot the livecd, so no :)04:40
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Fish-FaceAnyone know what might cause this?04:41
Mabuswhat is the username/password on the hoary livecd btw ?04:42
Mabusthen I could do lspci04:42
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Paralla1Angus: my steps where: cp /boot/config-2.6.10-5-k7 /usr/src/linux , make oldconfig, make menuconfig to activate the ntfs write support, sudo make, sudo make modules_install install04:42
gabriellinux acpi=off vga=79104:43
Paralla1so it should be working04:43
AnguSParalla1 odd :(04:44
gabrieltry this option04:44
AnguSwhat is the best package manager (non-graphical) to use with ubuntu?04:44
tritium_AnguS, I prefer aptitude04:44
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sigpcI just installed ubuntu on my laptop (pentium 4 2.8ghz) and the default kernel that it used was the .i386? shouldn't it be using the i686 ?04:45
Turmssaik0:  dselect?04:45
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tritium_sigpc, 386 is installed by default.  You certainly can upgrade to linux-686, though.04:45
AnguSWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!04:45
AnguS  aptitude04:45
AnguSuh, what happened?04:45
sigpctritium: gracias04:45
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tritium_sigpc, de nada ;)04:46
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JaZy84tritium04:47
wnightI'd like to install a gqview 2.0 (from breezy, universe) on a hoary system, how can I do this without installing libc updates, a new C compiler, etc?04:47
Turmsubuntu doesn' have dselect? shame!t04:47
JaZy84you think you could help out. i read the doc. but i'm still getting one little error04:47
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sigpcyes it does Turms04:47
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sigpcDebian `dselect' package handling frontend.04:47
sigpcshame you!04:48
sigpc:)04:48
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Turmssigpc synaptic then!04:50
sdogany dedicated linuxppc ubuntu #'s around btw ?04:50
crystal_I am new to linux (2 days) and I am having difficulty geting music files to work, sound works as well as cds, but movies are mute and mp3s will not play. Will somebody help me?04:50
Paralla1install xmms and xine04:51
PlanarPlatypuscrystal_, it is probably a codec problem, I think there was something on the forums about it04:51
tritium_crystal_, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:51
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crystal_thank you04:52
Mabusgabriel: same issue04:53
kosmic_youthdo you know if there is a problem with the Launchpad ? rosetta ?04:53
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Mabusgabriel: I'm at the tty prompt now, "ubuntu login:"04:53
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Mabusso if you know the username/pass I can log in and provide some log details maybe04:53
lamontgabriel: and?04:54
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i_m_meenhello04:55
Mabus"I cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?" is the dialog I get.04:55
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Paralla1Does anyone recompile a kernel in ubuntu???04:56
i_m_meenjust wondering, any news about a xfce ubuntu? or just gossip?04:56
i_m_meenrecompile a kernel?04:56
i_m_meenwhy not? :P04:57
PlanarPlatypusParalla1, sometimes but I have not needed to yet04:57
tritium_i_m_meen, it's available to install04:57
Paralla1can you help me please04:57
PlanarPlatypusParalla1, possibly04:57
PlanarPlatypusdepends on the problem04:57
lamontgabriel: what problem are you seeing?04:57
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lamont"doesn't boot" doesn't really tell me anything04:57
Paralla1I compile it but when I reboot it gives me a kernel panic cannot mount root partition04:57
i_m_meen@tritium: no, no. no..i'm running a xfce ubuntu, i meant boot cd04:57
PlanarPlatypusParalla1, what is your boot drive connected to?  IDE or SATA?04:58
Paralla1the / is IDE04:58
Mabuslamont: gabriel is helping me with a boot problem, I haven't seen him asking one.. but maybe I just missed it.04:58
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FackamatoWhy isn't there a /proc/config.gz in ubuntu kernels?04:58
lamontParalla1: and how vanilla is your install?04:58
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lexhidercrystal: for movies I would recommend the totem-xine package, it's in universe.04:58
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Paralla1what ??04:58
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lamontMabus: he showed up in #ubuntu-kernel, which is the wrong place for support, and I'm trying to drag himback to the right channel04:58
Paralla1lamont : what?04:58
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Mabuslamont: ah, right.04:59
mrimbertFackamato, the kernel configs are in /boot04:59
Stuttergart2Can someone point me to the disk space requirements for a fresh Warty install?04:59
lamontParalla1: did you just tell it to use the whole disk, or did you customize the partitions?04:59
jacquesmerdephwoar, hoary is pretty sweet. far less suckage than warty04:59
Paralla1I downloaded the 2.6.11.804:59
gabrielit freeze in hotplug system , la04:59
Stuttergart2I didn't see it in the Wiki.04:59
Fackamatomrimbert: sorry, doh04:59
Stuttergart2Err04:59
lamontParalla1: 2.6.11 is known to be trash04:59
Stuttergart2for Hoary I mean.04:59
lamontdon't use it04:59
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lexhiderParallal: are you sure grub setup is ok, and are you sure you have the necessary fs compiled into kernel?04:59
PlanarPlatypusParalla1, have you checked things like your IDE driver being a module?04:59
gabrielyes , i did it04:59
gabrielbut i dont have network, sound04:59
Paralla1yep04:59
jacquesmerde"ubuntu: sarge's waiting room"05:00
Paralla1ext2 ext3 , nvidia chipset05:00
FackamatoUbuntu's 2.6.11 doesn't work very well over here - doesn't even boot. It has issues with the ICH5 S-ATA controller or something. (ready,drive seek error etc).05:00
FackamatoAnyone having similar issues=05:00
lamontFackamato: 2.6.11 is known to be broken and unusable.  don't do that05:00
lamont2.6.12rc3 will get uploaded sometime soonish05:00
gabriellamont, it works with kernel 2.6.805:00
Paralla1mmmmm05:00
PlanarPlatypusFackamato, I had similar issues, my solution was to run 2.6.1005:00
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lamontgabriel: this is 2.6.10-5-34 or so?05:00
gabriellatest ubuntu kernel05:01
lamontgabriel: hoary?05:01
lexhiderstuttergant2: they wouldn' have changet much from warty.05:01
Paralla1I just trying to learn how to do it05:01
gabrieland the same happens with k7s kernel05:01
gabrielyes05:01
lexhiders/changet/changed05:01
Fackamatolamont: aha, OK.05:02
FackamatoPlanarPlatypus: Yup, I'm using 2.6.10 now.05:02
FackamatoNo issues so far.05:02
gabrieli ty k7 and i386 Hoarys kernel05:02
lexhiderstuttergart2: for warty: 1.8G for standard Ubuntu desktop system, that info is from the official warty CD cover.05:02
gabrieltry05:03
Stuttergart2lexhider: Do you have a URL for the reqs for Hoary?05:03
lamontgabriel: this was after dist-upgrading from warty to hoary?05:03
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lexhiderstuttergart2: I'll see if I can find them, but I'd be surprised if they were all that different from Warty to Hoary.05:04
Mabusgabriel: I have the same issue with acpi=off and vga=791.05:05
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gabrielwell05:05
lamontgnat_x: is good place05:05
gabrielit happens to me in Knoppix05:05
lamontalthough the general answer is: download the livecd and play with it05:05
gabrielit has and option failsafe05:05
gnat_xcool05:06
Mabusgabriel: aha, so I should try Knoppix, maybe ?05:06
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gabrieldid you try?05:06
Mabusnot yet05:06
Mabusonly ubuntu05:07
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gabrielwell for alive cds05:07
gabrielKnoppix is good05:07
JoshRAHello can a nfts drive be loaded at all in ubuntu05:07
Mabusyes05:07
Echylowhat is a good & easy configurable ftp server?05:07
AnguSvsftpd05:07
lamontJoshRA: read only, but yes05:07
sigJoshRA: http://ubuntuguide.org has a good howto05:07
MabusI will try Knoppix then :/05:07
Mabuslamont: maybe you're able to take a look at my problem first ?05:07
lamontMabus: if it works with Knoppix but not hoary, would be interested in knowing that...05:08
EchyloAnguS, is it easy to configure, or what is the method ?05:08
MabusI haven't tried Knoppix yes.05:08
Mabus*yet05:08
gnat_xi have two big questions: 1. how different are ubuntu's kernels, X install, and hardware support from debian sarge (which i'm currently running, and which locks up, and i can't find why)?05:08
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lamontMabus: I'm actually supposed to be somewhere else as of about an hour ago... :-(05:08
Mabuslamont: :S05:08
gabrielMabus Is your laptop an old one?05:08
Mabusyes, maybe 1-2 years.05:08
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Mabus"old"05:09
JoshRAthanks lamont i knew nfts can only be ro but in like fedora you can not do anythingw ith out editing configs and sig i am wating for that to load thanks05:09
gabrielno so old05:09
Mabusno05:09
lamontgnat_x: ubuntu is a 2.6.10 kernel, xorg 6.8.2, and more 3rd party drivers, I believe05:09
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gnat_xquestion two is, how different are the apt repositoriries from those of sarge as far as breadth and age?05:09
Turmsproftp05:09
JoshRAsig: what is the flag foir fstab just ntfs?05:09
Mabuslamont: OK, so it is a Acer Travelmate 270 with a SIS VGA card, and the boot goes fine until it tries to start the X server - then I'm thrown back to tty. I've tried vga=771 and vga=791.05:10
lexxan?? mountntfs05:10
Paralla1JoshRa: tes05:10
[uhelp] mountntfs: To learn about mounting windows partitions (ntfs, fat) see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows05:10
EchyloTurms, I just installed proftp, not that fun to configure :|05:10
lamontgnat_x: upstream version freeze hits about 3 months before release.  so hoary is (generally) sid as of december 28, 200405:10
MabusIf you can't think of anything I should try immediately, I'll try Knoppix.05:10
lamontgnat_x: with xorg, etc.05:10
JoshRAlexxan: it is Not loading05:10
lamontand gnome 2.10.1, of course05:10
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lexxanmount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/here ?05:10
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lamontMabus: that's an "xorg problem"05:10
Mabusit's my problem as well :/05:11
gnat_xoh and i guess i have a third... is the installer flexible enough to not want to nuke my /home and /work partitions?05:11
Mabuslamont: is there a solution to it ?05:11
lamontgnat_x: breezy is current sid + ubuntu changes, modulo the fact that not all the merges have been finished yet, etc.05:11
lamontMabus: dunno - first place to look would be the X log, then the output of the things that X uses for autodetection05:12
wnightHow can I set ubuntu to not boot X by default?05:12
Mabusyes, but I can't log in to review the log05:12
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Mabussince it's a livecd I don't know the user/pass05:12
gabrielmore /var/log05:12
gabriellet me see05:12
lamontgnat_x: you have to hit it over the head - the default install is "full disk", but you can override that to do your own partitioning05:12
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lamontgnat_x: the installer folks do that all the time (it's basically debian-installer with the question count brought down to near zero)05:13
gabrielXorg.0.log05:13
Mabusyes, but I have to log in first05:13
gnat_xlamont: *nod*05:13
Mabuswhat is the user/pass for the livecd ?05:13
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lexhiderStuttergart2: I can't find that info either, it really should be in the release notes.05:13
lamontMabus: no unlocked account on the livecd05:13
Mabusso I can't log in from tty05:13
Mabus?05:13
lamontit should just come up in a tty that's logged in already05:13
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Mabusit doesn't05:14
lamontthat's a casper bug05:14
Mabus..05:14
Mabusso then I can't review the log either05:14
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CheeseBalldoes anyone know of a good web design progarm like dreamweaver for linux05:15
MabusNVU05:15
gabrieltry knoppix the father of alive CDs05:15
lamontMabus: I'd have to play with it some to come up with a good way to crowbar that open...05:15
RubinCheeseBall: quanta05:15
Mabuslamont: OK, well I'll try knoppix then.05:15
icebalmthe father of alive CDs05:15
wnightHey, X isn't working well for me at boot, how do I boot to console mode by default?05:15
icebalmthat statement conjurs imagry I would rather not have05:15
jacquesmerdewould be a nightmare to try and get my mum's crappy small apps running on wine on ubuntu?05:16
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Mabusgabriel, lamont, thanks for the help05:16
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Rubinjacquesmerde: there is a compatability guide. the older the app the better05:16
MabusI'll be back some time to say how it went with Knoppix05:16
lamontMabus: please05:16
gabrielwine its a nigthmare05:16
CheeseBallthanks Rubin05:16
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lamontMabus: and sorry I couldn't immediately help more05:16
Mabuslamont: hm ?05:16
wnightAnyone? Is there a runlevel that doesn't start X?05:17
lamontMabus: please let us know how it goes.05:17
Mabusah05:17
siganyone know how to change xchat colors back to normal ?05:17
Mabuslamont: yes np, thanks again05:17
icebalmjacquesmerde: never bank on emulation05:17
sigthe default colors suck on this 2.4.1 build05:17
lamontMabus: likewise, you could follow the wiki steps for editing the livecd to add a user...05:17
Rubinwnight: remove /etc/init.d/gdm05:17
Mabusyes05:17
Mabusbut you know, I can't be bothered.05:17
whiteknightjacquesmerde, what apps are you hoping to run?05:17
jacquesmerdeicebalm: how hard/trivial is it to set up wine itself on ubuntu?05:17
lamontMabus: understood05:17
icebalmjacquesmerde: not hard05:17
lexxanjacquesmerde, apt-get install wine05:17
Rubinwnight: or rather, unlink /etc/rc2.d/gdm05:18
icebalmlexxan: you beat me to it05:18
wnightRubin: I'm looking for a change like booting into runlevel 3 versus 5 in redhat.05:18
whiteknightjacquesmerde, the configuration is the hardest part05:18
jacquesmerdewhiteknight: the only app at the moment is bridge baron05:18
jacquesmerdewhich repository is wine in?05:18
whiteknightjacquesmerde, :) as long as it isn't the latest directx game you should be okay05:18
Rubinwnight: if ubuntu is the same as debian, runlevel 2 is default and 3-5 are yours to setup as you wish (using /etc/rcx.d/ links)05:18
jacquesmerdeactually, which repository is gftp in?05:18
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wnightRubin, okay, thanks!05:19
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lexxanuniverse.05:19
jacquesmerdewhiteknight: configuration of the app in wine or wine itself?05:19
gabrielyou need wine , one configuration tool05:19
whiteknightjacquesmerde, wine itself, once its done, it works pretty well05:19
gabrieli dont remember the name05:19
whiteknightjacquesmerde, its been a couple of years since i've used it, now run ppc ubuntu, but then it was possible05:20
jacquesmerdewhat are the variable in a wine config that have to be determined on an individual basis?05:20
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gabrielit works for office, internet explorer05:20
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whiteknightjacquesmerde, if i remember rightly there is a really useful gui somewhere05:20
jacquesmerdewhiteknight: its just that if i dont get this win game running on my mum's computer she's gonna slap me silly for deleting windows for her05:20
whiteknightjacquesmerde, i'll have a look05:20
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gabrielyes05:20
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gabrielchek in winehq05:21
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Rubinjacquesmerde: a game like minesweeper? or a game like doom?05:21
SolarinHi folks, wonder if someone could help me. I'm trying to setup my snd-es18xx soundcard on my fresh install of Hoary. Previously was a debian user and set it up via /etc/modutils/alsa-base and running update-modules since the card doesn't support auto detection. Doesn't appear to work this time though, any ideas?05:21
gabrieli remember05:21
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gabrielcheck in franks corner05:22
JoshRAdo you have to add something to beable to play mp3's in ubuntu05:22
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resiak++ubuntu_user_count /* Hoary has fixed sound for someone who wasn't using Warty because ALSA didn't like his chip.05:22
SolarinYup, grab the g-streamer mp3 plugin, worked for me :-)05:22
whiteknightjacquesmerde, i'd definitly go for it, the default should suffice, if not come back here or look here: http://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wine-user/config-file05:23
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gabrielor by crossoveroffice05:23
jacquesmerdeRubin: a game like bridge baron, from looking at its gui, i doubt its using any modern, highpowered stuff. i think its the kind of game that runs on win95, and can be copied from cd rather than installing05:23
gabrielfor games check cedega05:24
jacquesmerdecedega?05:24
SolarinDarn, no clue on how to get Ubuntu to auto modprobe on startup?05:24
gabrielthe version of wine for games05:24
orospakrSolarin, /etc/modules05:24
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Solarinorospakr -> I need to specify all the parameters for the soundcard, can I do that in there?05:25
jacquesmerdeSolarin: modprobe what???05:25
SolarinAlsa module, snd-es18xx05:25
Anubishow to remove duplicate menu entries?05:26
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gabrielcheck /etc/modprobe.conf05:26
orospakrSolarin, er, I dunno. check the manpage. prolly man modules or some such.05:26
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SolarinGabriel: Still supported in Hoary? New to it, got the impression they'd killed that, update-modules doesn't generate the modprobe.conf for me.05:27
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gabrielsorry in ubuntu is /modules.conf05:28
chx_hi. anyone using pymusique?05:28
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gabrielthe old way05:28
jacquesmerdeyou can do a man modules.conf, that should tell you how to pass paramaters on startup05:28
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SolarinOk, thanks. I'll let you know if it works ;-)05:28
n00daanyone connections here freeze after a while ?05:29
SolarinArgh, no man page for modules.conf05:29
jacquesmerdegabriel: i found that cedega thing. i went to browse games, and found the bridge baron page, but it doesnt say whether or not its supported (it looks like it isnt, but is the fact that the page is there at all suggest it is?)05:29
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jacquesmerdeSolarin: sorry, there is on this machine (admittedly, its not running ubuntu at the mo')05:29
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whiteknightjacquesmerde, give it ago is what i recommend, if it works on win95 it'll work with wine05:29
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jacquesmerdewhiteknight: it definitely works with win9805:30
SolarinJac: Yah, had it working fine in Debian. Ubuntu doesn't seem to have any obvious alternative though05:30
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SolarinMan for update-modules states that it's depreciated and not supported.05:30
Zenhlo all... i have a tar.bz2 file and i was just wondering about the command to unpack it is? i know its tar something but i cant remember.05:30
gabrieli cant support in games05:30
whiteknightgo for it :)05:30
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jacquesmerdewhiteknight: does wine support windows installation wizards?05:30
gabrielyes05:31
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jeroen_yes05:31
josh42How can I make all 5.1 speakers active in hoary?05:31
jacquesmerdeSolarin: if man modprobe.conf is on my computer, it must be online as well05:31
wnightI'm trying to install GQview 2 on Hoary, it's trying to install all of breezy as well.. Please help.05:31
gabrielSolarin what problem have with your sound?05:31
chx_so, anyone using pymusique or itunes with crossover ?05:31
Zenanybody help?05:31
SolarinGabriel: I can get sound, but only by executing a long modprobe command05:32
thullychx_ : i've used both05:32
dcravenZen: tar xvjf file.tar.bz205:32
thullypymusique seems to work best, once you get it set up, but there is the license issues...05:32
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dcravenZen: For tar.gz it's "tar xvzf filename.tar.gz05:33
n00dmy connection freeze after a while... does anyone have a clue about it ?05:34
dcravenZen: swap the j for a z.05:34
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wnightHow do I get just one package from Breezy/Universe without libc and everything else?05:34
jacquesmerdegabriel: so how do i find out if something in the cedega database WORKS with cedega?05:34
chx_wnight: source it05:34
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wnightchx_: I need to do a source install and compile it?05:34
Kisaini have a question05:35
gabrielI dont now i only read about it working with wine05:35
i_m_meenwhere can i find wine? i have main, uni, multi and i still can't find it :(05:35
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i_m_meenis it gone from the repository?05:35
chx_wnight: yes. according to apt howto, that's one of the main usages of source05:35
chx_apt-get source , that05:35
wnightchx_: When I ran the liveCD I added a breezy/universe source and it grabbed just the one package. Running the installed version it gives different results.05:35
dcravenwnight: Packages are compiled using the libraries that they depend on. If those libraries are of a higher version than what you have, you need those too. That's what depends are for.05:35
Kisaincan someone help me with a dual boot problem?05:36
wnightdcraven: Can I install two versions of libc side by side?05:36
dcravenwnight: I doubt that's a good idea.05:36
gabrieli alwas have problems with alsa05:36
wnightKisain: Just ask, otherwise nobody knows. We're all willing to try.05:36
Kisainok i have 2 hardrive one has ubuntu on it and the other on the secondary ide has win sucxp05:37
SolarinAh, I have the solution. update-modules is disabled by default. You need the 'modutils' package to make it active. Great :-D05:37
Kisainubuntu sees the win install and offers it as a boot option but the computer just hangs it dosen't freeze just hangs05:37
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Kisaini tryed update-grub but it diden't work any ideas?05:38
Kisainupdate-grub did work but with no results i should say05:38
josh42Kisain; You had XP on first? Did you change the drives around the get ubuntu on? (change from master/slave, etc)05:38
jacquesmerdewhere's a good how-to for installing games under wine? (i'm assuming the itnernet somewhere....i wish i was a better googler...)05:38
Kisainyes when i set xp up it was the only drive in the system05:38
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gabrieli ve modutils05:39
Kisainthen i moved it to the secondary ide channel and kept it as primary drive with the cd-rom as slave05:39
gabrielby default05:39
josh42Kisain; winxp hates you now; that's why05:39
Kisainoh i know that05:39
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dcravenKisain: Something tells me XP doesn't like being secondary.05:39
josh42try moving the drive back to where it was, and taking the second out05:40
Kisaini knew that the moment i said ubuntu rocks! lol05:40
Kisainwell it won't work as primary ide05:40
Kisainslave05:40
wnightKisain: Moving it would change the drive identifier, did you move it after setting up ubuntu?05:40
Kisainok heres the full version05:40
josh42Kisain; WinXP /hates/ being moved.. plus, it's bootloader does some funky things; if you touch it with grub/lilo, it loses some abilities05:40
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Kisaini had it dual booting with xp on a diffrent hd05:40
Kisainthat hd crashed05:41
Kisainso i started over again05:41
dcravenKisain: "fdisk -l" will tell you the device it's on based on the filesystem type. Make sure your /boot/grub/menu.lst agrees with that device.05:41
Kisaini don't think grub understands that05:41
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jacquesmerdeif milli vanilli fell in the woods, would somebody else make a sound?05:41
Kisainhow would i go about doing that? the lasttime i just ran the update grub command05:41
josh42winxp refers to itself like: drive(0), partition(1) - if you move that to drive(1), partition(1); xp's own bootloader loses the os05:42
unpersonI upgraded to Hoary recently using apt-get.  Things seem to be working pretty well, except that since the upgrade I can't seem to play music.  If I try to play mp3s with XMMS or Beep they just freeze (and have to be killed using 'kill').  CD player also won't play.05:42
tonywho knows kpackage?05:42
unpersonAny ideas what's going on?05:42
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unpersonOr at least clues as to how I determine what's going on?05:42
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Kisainwould it be safe to set up xp on the secondary ide with ubuntu still on the primary?05:43
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Xappeunperson: have you tried to change the sound output?05:43
eskoits esound?05:43
Seveasunperson, ubunto hoary uses a different sound system than ubuntu warty05:43
unpersonI didn't see any obvious errors on boot.  I get an error that pciehp module doesn't load, but I read that's for PCI extreme, which I don't have anyway.05:43
Kisaincause the last time i set up xp i pulled the grub drive just to be safe05:43
josh42Kisain; as long as you set up XP first, and then left the drives as they are - yes05:43
Seveasunperson, errors regarping pciehp/shpchp/hw_random can be safely ignored05:43
Kisainwould i have to re-do ubuntu?05:44
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josh42No05:44
tractorgood morning Ubuntu!05:44
Seveastractor, it's evening :)05:44
Kisainno it's noone05:44
unpersonSeveas:  Oh?  What changed about the sound?  Are there config changes I should make?05:44
Kisainlol05:44
tractorgood evening you eveningers05:44
FunnyLookinHatAnyone here installed the DCGUI-QT package?05:44
unpersonXappe:  No, I haven't.  It's a good idea.05:44
josh42BUT05:44
josh42you would lose the bootloader for it (cause you put it in the MBR, and xp will overwrite it)05:44
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Kisainso i just setup xp with the way the drives are and my problem should be solved?05:44
tonyi've got a Authentication failure05:44
unpersonXappe:  I guess I don't know what I should try, but I'll mess with it.05:45
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eskoi got problem, how i can look avi movies05:45
lexxanesko, w32codecs05:45
lexxan** codec05:45
[uhelp] Found 2 matches. Sorted: manualcodec, restricted. (0.027s)05:45
tractorsomeone say ubuntu05:45
Seveasunperson, i do not know about the details, but hoary uses esd05:45
majorbi cant find the w32 codecs05:45
lexxan?? restricted05:45
josh42Kisain; Make sure you make a linux floppy bootloader first to fix lilo after05:45
[uhelp] restricted: To find out more about java, dvd playing, codecs etc. see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats05:45
lexxanCheck that site..05:45
Kisainok how do i make that floppy?05:45
lexxanor just add the marillat repo05:45
lexxan?? marillat05:45
[uhelp] marillat[x] : No defenition found for word.05:46
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lexxan** marillat05:46
[uhelp] Found 1 matches. Sorted: marillathoary. (0.002s)05:46
lexxan** marillathoary05:46
Kisainso if it screws up i don't loose the most awsome os ever05:46
XappeFunnyLookinHat: the DCGUI-QT in the repos are really old (think it's even older than the name change to valknut). try to compile it yourself, you won't regret it05:46
[uhelp] Found 1 matches. Sorted: marillathoary. (0.001s)05:46
lexxan?? marillathoary05:46
[uhelp] marillathoary: To quickly add the marillat repository enter this in console - echo deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list - Now type sudo apt-get update05:46
tractorKnock. Knock.05:46
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n00dmy connection freeze after a while... does anyone have a clue about it ?05:46
Seveasn00d, no05:46
The_Feetanyone able to help with a question regarding nvidia drivers for ubunu?05:46
Seveasn00d, maybe you can give some detail...05:46
SeveasThe_Feet, just ask...05:47
Kisaincan you tell me how to make and use that floppy?05:47
bretzelHi there again! GrumpyGroundhog: what is that in term of "developers" packages system ? only for debian-ubuntu developers ?05:47
Seveasbretzel, it will be a rolling unstable05:47
n00dSeveas: well, i connect using ADSL and a 3COM homeconnect modem... and then authenticate through web page my login... i was updanting my system and then i couldnt navigate anymore05:47
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FunnyLookinHatat least he's enthusiastic :)05:48
The_Feetwell, i can use the tutorial at ubuntuguide.org but when i do that, it seems it wants to use an 1386 kernel instead of the k7 one, i have an AMD xp2000+ here :(05:48
n00dSeveas: several times... I use pppoeconf as said in howto05:48
Seveasn00d, when you cannot navigate, can you still ping or use dig?05:48
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unpersonSeveas:  Ah, thanks.  Switching to the esd output seems to have solved the problem.  This seems to be a general issue that will come up with upgrades.  Is there somewhere such a problem should be reported?05:48
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SeveasThe_Feet, when installing nvidia drivers, simply install linux-k705:48
n00dSeveas: its funny because I can still download files using apt-get but i cant navigate or talk with gaim... i need to disconnect and reconnect05:49
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Seveasn00d, that is odd indeed, do you have any pppoe logs?05:50
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n00dSeveas: i think i might have but im using windows right now cos i couldnt connect to irc05:50
AnguScan i change /etc/hostname on a running system, or will it cause problems to some software?05:51
Kisaincan someone tell me how to make that boot disk and how to use it?05:51
n00dSeveas: can be a dialer problem ? i configured it to start with boot05:51
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jeroen_what boot disk, Kisain?05:52
Seveasn00d, i have no experience with pppoe, but reading logs is my specialty :)05:52
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The_FeetSeveas, did you mean have the K7 kernel running when i install nvidia drivers? cuz i did that... my concern is that i may be missing out on adb\vanced features of the k7 kernel with my chip if i boot that i386 kernel that loads the nvidia driver  :(05:53
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n00dSeveas: hehe... could you point me in the direction of the specific logs so I can boot my linux machine to recover them05:53
Kisainthe one that would fix lilo if xp screwd it up05:53
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SeveasThe_Feet, if you install linux-k7 it will install the latest k7 kernel + the driver for k705:53
Seveasthe nvidia driver for k7 that is05:54
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jeroen_Kisain, did you install Lilo? Ubuntu's default is GRUB05:54
Seveasn00d, /var/log/ppp or something05:54
The_Feetok, i musta goofed somewhere... i DO have the k7 kernel installed... will try again, thanks!05:54
Kisainno lilo is not installed05:54
Kisaingrub is the bootloader?05:54
Kisaini think it called05:54
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jeroen_Have you tried grub.org? Maybe it has info there05:55
jeroen_hmm05:55
jeroen_grub.org != Grub05:56
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jeroen_http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub.html05:56
RaskallI'm a bit amazed of linux's ability to resume a ssh session after resume/hibernate. Is windows capable of that?05:56
SeveasRaskall, that is merely a coincidence05:57
n00dSeveas: ok... im going to restart and then i come back :) thanks05:57
Seveasthe connection might as well have timed out if the server was configured differently05:57
lexxan?? grub05:57
[uhelp] grub: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto -AND- Grub Boot floppy - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy. If you are simply trying to edit your bootup list, timeout or default OS to boot see /boot/grub/menu.lst05:57
lexxanmight have something05:57
SeveasRaskall, yes, and it can happen on windows too05:57
Anubisanyone here know of a way to edit the gnome 2.10 menu system to remove duplicates?05:57
RaskallSeveas: how come it's a coincidence? It works every time I resume my computer.05:58
SeveasAnubis, find the .desktop files that contain the duplicates05:58
SeveasRaskall, it's a coincidence that the server is configured that way05:58
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Seveasand that you have a static ip05:58
RaskallSeveas: ahh. :)05:58
Seveas(or the ip hasn't changed)05:58
tractorAnyone knows if there is a better way to grid the icons in the desktop in gnome 2.10? "Keep aligned" isn't that good.05:58
RaskallSeveas: of course. have only static leases on my lan.05:59
SeveasRaskall, and a static external ip if the server is outside your lan :)05:59
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Nafallohi all05:59
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jeroen_hi05:59
RaskallSeveas: in this case it's not, but I have seen the same from external connections too.05:59
jacquesmerdewhy does ubuntuguide.org use gpg when adding package repos?05:59
Nafallodoes states have any function with udp in netfilter?05:59
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Seveasjacquesmerde, to authenticate packages...06:00
jeroen_jacquesmerde: so apt-get won't wine about "not authenticated"06:00
bigbill52ahi everyone06:01
SeveasNafallo, if 'state' refers to connection state, then no. UDP is a stateless protocol06:01
jeroen_hi06:01
Seveasconnectionless i mean06:01
NafalloSeveas, yea. that's what I thought :-)06:01
NafalloSeveas, thanks for confirming :-)06:02
lexxanit's so amazing going back to optical06:02
lexxanwow06:02
lexxanI'm gonna go smash my ball mouse now06:02
jacquesmerdeoh, so synaptic just does that automatically?06:02
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jeroen_jacquesmerde: If you don't add gpg keys06:02
lexxanjacquesmerde, No you enter a command to add the marillat keys or whatever repo you use06:02
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jacquesmerdei never had to use gpg when i ran warty, and ran apt-get and aptitude without synaptic06:03
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Xappehmm, damnit. I get gpg errors on my sources06:03
jeroen_jacquesmerde: Synaptic will tell you "not authenticated"06:03
jeroen_you don't need gpg06:03
Seveasjacquesmerde, warty apt didn't use authentication06:03
lexxanya not a huge deal06:03
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Xappebut I get the errors even though I only have ubuntu repos added06:03
jacquesmerdemarillat? what the? i've been away from ubuntu for too long...06:03
Mabuslamont: ping ?06:04
n00dSeveas, hi there... i didn't find any log files06:04
jacquesmerdethough using arch linux HAS been nice...06:04
Seveasjacquesmerde, marillat is the name of a repository with extra stuff06:04
lexxanmarillat is just for w32codecs and mplayer etc06:04
lexxan?? repository06:04
[uhelp] repository: To add repositories please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto/06:04
Seveaslexxan, mplayer is in universe/multiverse now06:04
jacquesmerdeoh, so the gpg stuff is just for marillat? that would make sense...06:04
lexxanya I just use the multiverse one myself06:04
Nafallowhy use marillat when we got universe and multiverse?06:04
lexxanbut it grabs the depends on marillat no?06:04
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n00dSeveas, is there a configuration that can deactivate my connection after a time ?06:04
Seveaslexxan, no06:04
lexxanlike libdvdcss or libxvidcore06:04
jeroen_jacquesmerde, also for Ubuntu06:04
jacquesmerdewho maintains mallirat?06:05
Seveasn00d, not that i know of, but remember that i have little experience with pppoe06:05
jeroen_It just says "hey, we're canonical, and we approve this package"06:05
Nafallolexxan, libxvidcore atleast...06:05
Seveasmaybe someone else can help, or otherwise try the mailinglist06:05
lexxan** 2:1.0.3-0.0 006:05
lexxan        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages06:05
Nafallojacquesmerde, christian marillat :-)06:05
[uhelp] Sorry, no matches for 2:1.0.3-0.0 0 on the defenition database. (0.002s)06:05
bigbill52ai am really impressed with ubuntu's unofficial users guide...06:05
lexxanI guess it's all in there now?06:05
lexxanDef need marillat for codecs tho06:05
MightyFhoedy #ubuntu06:05
MightyFhowdy*06:05
lexxanor www.mplayerhq.hu06:05
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SeveasMightyF, it's called hoary, not howdy ;)))06:06
n00dSeveas, anyway... you helped me a lot06:06
jeroen_howdy06:06
Nafallowell, I should part and get on with my script.06:06
MightyFSeveas, oooohhhhhhhhhhh, all this time i've gotten it wrong06:06
jacquesmerdeall i want to do is to allow universe or the equivalent, get some simple packages like wine and gftp, then disable universe and go back to main lock-down. am i gonna need to fiddle with gpg keys and the like? hoary definitely looks a lot nicer and cleaner than warty, i didnt realise it was more tricky under the hood06:06
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wnightHow can I find the non-US sources?06:06
jeroen_no06:06
jeroen_just add universe and download your stuff06:06
lexxanjacquesmerde, no..06:07
jacquesmerdeno gpg crap?06:07
Seveasjacquesmerde, no fiddling with gpg involved06:07
lexxanjacquesmerde, Just add the repository and go.06:07
lamontMabus: ack06:07
lexxan?? repository > jacquesmerde06:07
jacquesmerdeso universe has wine and gftp? is there a gftp equivalent in main?06:07
jeroen_universe has wine and gftp06:07
MightyFyeah06:07
Dark3Litedcraven, what's the latest kernel available for ubuntu?06:07
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MightyFnot that wine works well ;P06:07
lexxanjacquesmerde, Just add everything in synaptic06:07
Dark3Lite 2.6.10-5-38606:07
Dark3Lite??06:07
[uhelp] ??[x] : Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] 06:07
Mabuslamont: knoppix worked.06:07
lexxanDark3Lite, ya06:08
Seveasjacquesmerde, gftp is in main06:08
lexxanDark3Lite, Or compile your own.06:08
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Seveasgftp-gtk06:08
Mabus(with no boot options)06:08
lexxanThe kernel will not change afaik until the next major release in 6 months06:08
Dark3Liteaiight06:08
Dark3Litecool thanks lexan..06:08
Dark3Litefor some reason my modem won't work..06:08
SeveasDark3Lite, the latest kernel in te repositories is 2.6.10-506:08
lamontMabus: given that it's a completely different kernel, hardware detection, and X, I'm not terribly surprised...06:08
MightyFlexxan, is next major release Breezy?06:08
lexxanWhich modem?06:08
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lexxanMightyF, I believe so.06:08
jeroen_yes, breezy06:09
Dark3Litei used ppconfig lexxan06:09
jeroen_Breezy Badger06:09
Dark3Litebut don't hear it dialing06:09
jacquesmerdeif wine is the only package i want not in the main repo, i may as well just compile it fresh from cvs, as per the winehq instructions, yeah?06:09
MightyFlexxan, sweeeeet06:09
lexxanDark3Lite, Have you looked at the wiki or forums?06:09
Seveasjacquesmerde, sure06:09
Seveasbut debs are easier :)06:09
jeroen_jacquesmerde, wine also has .debs06:09
Dark3Liteyeah06:09
Seveasane winehq has debs too iirc06:09
jeroen_you can download them @ winehq06:09
lexxanjacquesmerde, You are overcomplicating things. Enable your repositories.. and install.06:09
jacquesmerdelexxan: and then disable universe?06:09
jeroen_then dpkg -i wineblablabla06:10
lexxanwhy disable it?06:10
MightyFjacquesmerde, yeah, but be complicated if ya want though06:10
wnightI need the "non-us" sources for xine and such, right? Is there a list of them?06:10
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Seveaswnight, you are thinking in debian terms :)06:10
Dark3Litecan't understand why my screen won't lock again06:10
Mabuslamont: yes .. anyway, you said you were interrested to know if it worked or not, so.06:10
Dark3Litelol06:10
lexxanwnight, just install us ones?06:10
jeroen_wnight, you mean you want another language?06:10
Mabuslamont: it did.06:10
Mabuslamont: :)06:10
Stuttergart2Anyone else noticed that Hoary install not being able to get past the "Configuring timzeone" stage?06:10
Seveaswnight, if it isn't in main, try universe or multiverse06:10
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lexxanStuttergart2, ntpdate?06:10
jacquesmerdeso there's more to wine than just the wine package yeah? i need shit like wine-utils, etc too, yeah?06:10
jeroen_yeah06:10
lamontMabus: thanks06:10
Stuttergart2lexxan: eh?06:11
MightyFlexxan, is wine still in alpha?  Cuz the one I see in the repos is alpha06:11
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jeroen_http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb06:11
lexxanhehe no idea06:11
lexxanI don't emulate06:11
lamontMabus: if you could file a bug in bugzilla with the hardware configuration, lspci output, etc,etc, that'd be great06:11
Seveaswnight, try gxine, it's in universe06:11
jacquesmerdeso download-deb rather than aptitude install wine?06:11
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Mabuslamont: I'll look into it.06:11
MightyFjacquesmerde, use synaptic, don't complicate things06:11
lamontMabus: thanks06:11
Dark3Litehmm for some reason my mp3 won't play in xmms06:11
jeroen_jacquesmerde, what is it you want? The wine in universe or the wine @ winehq?06:12
jacquesmerdecool, so which wine synaptic packages do i need other than wine itself?06:12
MightyFDark3Lite, Make sure xmms is outputting audio to ESD06:12
lexxanjacquesmerde, I think your first step would be to search 'wine' in synaptic06:12
jeroen_jacquesmerde, just install wine, plus its dependencies06:12
lexxanand decide.06:12
Fish-FaceIt appears that my Networking settings (default Gateway, active devices) are not saved on reboot06:12
Fish-FaceAnyone know what might cause this?06:12
jacquesmerdesorry, i know about apt, i'm not a newbie there, just a complete newb about gpg and wine06:12
universalcan someone tell me how to get my geforce 6800gt in funktion with nvidia.com driver??06:12
lexxan?? nvidia06:12
[uhelp] nvidia: to setup your xorg binary nvidia driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto -OR- http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver -ALSO- http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html06:12
jeroen_universal, search the wiki06:12
MightyFDark3Lite, Or do #3 on this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:13
universaljeroen_, i tried but i cant figure out06:13
MightyFDark3Lite, thats a more permanent fix06:13
Dark3Liteyeah I'm in wiki06:13
universaljeroen_, i need help for it'06:13
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jeroen_sorry, I don't have an Nvidia06:13
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universallexxan, the nvidia driver from nvidia.com06:14
lexxanuniversal, The last link would give you an idea of what to do.06:14
Seveasuniversal, why not the one from the restricted-modules package?06:14
MightyFuniversal, I think the backport repos have the driver on it, don't quote me though06:14
MightyFuniversal, what Seveas said06:15
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lexxanI believe you need your kernel headers06:15
lexxanthen you can compile it.06:15
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tombshi ppl06:15
MightyFtombs, hi06:15
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Dark3Liteheh MightyF06:15
universalits because its pretty laggy when playing games, and i think the clue is to get the latest driver from nvidia.com06:15
MightyFDark3Lite, what?06:15
Dark3Litejust need to choose the esound output06:15
Seveasbut if you don;t have a good reason not to use the drivers in the repos, please use these06:15
Dark3Lite:p06:16
Dark3Litethanks06:16
MightyFnp06:16
Seveasuniversal, no it's not06:16
Seveasuniversal, the clue is try to configure it better :)06:16
Seveasuniversal, and sorry, I have no idea on how to do that06:16
MightyFDark3Lite, But changing ESD to not hog the sound device clears up any issues you might have with ESD in the future06:16
universalSeveas, yes i think so to, but hmmm--...06:16
MightyFDark3Lite, It makes it so you can pick anything and still get sound output06:17
lexxanuniversal, I believe the binary with ubuntu is 7174.. the same as nvidia.com06:17
jeroen_Is there a ubuntu-calendar-may already?06:17
YscOHas ubuntu out of the box support for intel extreme 2 gpu?06:17
MightyFuniversal, lexxan I'm looking at it right now, its 7174, use the repo06:17
lexxanWell I doubt you're gonna get opengl etc06:17
jeroen_Ysc0, you mean one of those built-in things?06:17
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universallexxan, ok, but u dont know how to configure it to optimal effect?06:18
lexxanI'm not exactly impressed either06:18
YscOjup... just a crappy intel thing :+06:18
lexxanmy 1ghz athlon with a geforce 2 pro can't run ut99 that well06:18
lexxanthough in xp it runs fine.06:18
zzzerotimefirestarter doesnt work, it tells me that it cant find a valid configuration file06:18
zzzerotimewhat can i do06:18
wnightSeveas: lexxan jeroen_ : I'm trying to install the illegal stuff, like, you know, libdvdcss2, how can I do this? I expected it to be called non-us like in Debian.06:18
lexxanzzzerotime, Did you just install it?06:18
jeroen_It's not illegal06:18
lexxanwnight, Add the marillat repository and apt-get install w32codecs06:18
lexxanand look at06:18
lexxan?? restricted06:18
[uhelp] restricted: To find out more about java, dvd playing, codecs etc. see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats06:18
Seveaswnight, try universe, multiverse or the marillat repository06:19
universalMightyF, so i need the one from nvidia.com?06:19
josh42?? wine06:19
lexxan?? marillathoary06:19
[uhelp] wine[x] : No defenition found for word.06:19
[uhelp] marillathoary: To quickly add the marillat repository enter this in console - echo deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list - Now type sudo apt-get update06:19
zzzerotimeI installed it, then dhcp didnt work, so I gave up and removed it, and now I just installed it again06:19
josh42Can anyone help me with installing wine?06:19
MightyFuniversal, no, use the one from the repo, its been compiled to work optimally in ubuntu06:19
jeroen_josh42, it works very automagically06:19
jeroen_did you sudo apt-get install wine ?06:19
lexxanjosh42, apt-get install wine | wine blah.exe06:20
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josh42jeroen_; I don't have it listed as a valid package06:20
universalMightyF, ok thx- but u also dont know how to configure it so it works optimally?06:20
jeroen_It's in universe06:20
MightyFwnight, use these codecs, it include pretty much every single one known to man: http://stanton-finley.net/fedora_core_3_installation_notes.html#MPlayer06:20
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lexxanzzzerotime, Sorry I'm not too sure06:20
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lexxanzzzerotime, Maybe check the forums/wiki.06:20
jeroen_You'll need to change repositories06:20
universalMightyF, just by do the Xorg the normal way?06:20
jeroen_?? universe06:20
MightyFuniversal, not a clue my man, but I get consistently 76 FPS in Wolf:ET06:20
[uhelp] universe[x] : No defenition found for word.06:20
josh42E: Package wine has no installation candidate06:20
lexxanMightyF, How do you check FPS in ET?06:20
MightyFuniversal, with a 680006:20
josh42I have the universe repoistory06:20
MightyFlexxan, /cg_drawfps 106:20
jeroen_lexxan, it's in options06:20
lexxanI'll see what I get with my geforce2 pro 1ghz06:21
lexxanathlong06:21
jeroen_josh42, are you sure?06:21
lexxancan i type that in console?06:21
lexxanet console06:21
MightyFjeroen_, depends on the version06:21
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MightyFlexxan, yes06:21
jeroen_I have installed06:21
lexxank brb06:21
universalMightyF, yesh ok.... i tried the counter strike using cedega, but it is jumping between 40 and 7006:21
FunnyLookinHatHow easy is it to upgrade the graphics card on my machine and thus update drivers in X?06:21
universalMightyF, a bit unstable06:21
universalBRB06:21
jeroen_win, wine-utils, winesetuptk, libwine-nas, libwine-arts, libwine-alsa, libwine06:22
MightyFuniversal, well, you can't expect anything running on cedega to run as well as it would in windows06:22
jeroen_*wine06:22
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jeroen_it works for me06:22
MightyFjeroen_, what does?06:22
josh42jeroen_; Very sure.. I have univese, multiverse, and even the winHQ repository - winetools is available, but no "wine"06:23
jeroen_wine06:23
jeroen_that's really odd06:23
MightyFjosh42, I see wine in my universe repo06:23
jeroen_have you tried searching "wine" with synaptic?06:23
josh42Hrm.. could it be because I'm on a64?06:23
jeroen_yes06:23
MightyFahhh06:23
jeroen_that could be06:23
MightyFyes06:23
chx_speaking of alsa and wine. I have two soundcards and wine seems to ignore /etc/asound.conf and grabs /dev/controlC0 instead of C1.06:24
josh42shouldn't I still be able to pull the i386 if nothing else?06:24
jeroen_probably06:24
jeroen_if you have the "compatability layer"06:24
Kamping_Kaiserjosh42. did you install the 64bit version?06:24
josh42how do I check that?06:24
lexxanMightyF, Well on fueldump I was getting max 76-86 fps06:24
jeroen_that worked with Suse @ a6406:24
lexxanand like 30 outside06:24
lexxanMaybe the max framerate is set or something?06:24
josh42Kamping_Kaiser: Yes, fresh hoary right after I got the chip06:24
MightyFlexxan, ouch06:24
KeizerIs Mallirat the same thing as Multiverse in Hoary?06:25
lexxanlol my computer sucks.06:25
lexxanKeizer, no.06:25
MightyFlexxan, yeah, you can cap your fps so it doesn't vary as much06:25
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jeroen_Keizer, no06:25
lexxanIt's maintained by Christian Marillat.06:25
MightyFlexxan, /com_maxfps 4306:25
jeroen_Keizer, hoary has multiverse06:25
MightyFlexxan, 43 is a magic number06:25
lexxanI suck too bad at that game06:25
lexxanI don't play it much anymore06:25
lexxanya i read there's 3 fps's that make you jump higher and shit06:25
MightyFlexxan, your dips in fps can make you really suck06:25
lexxanya.06:25
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MightyFlexxan, you need them steady06:25
lexxanI'm gonna get an acer ferrari laptop next week06:25
MightyFlexxan, sweet06:26
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YscOthat is really red :+06:26
jeroen_ferrari laptop?06:26
lexxanI love em :P06:26
lexxanThey got a ferrari logo on them06:26
jeroen_Vrooommmmmm06:26
lexxanbright red06:26
MightyFlexxan, yeah, 43, 76, and 125 are three of the magic numbers06:26
YscOi just think they are ugly :X06:26
lexxanpimpin :P06:26
MightyFlexxan, also 333 is, but no one gets that06:26
lexxannoooooooooooO!06:26
lexxanlol06:26
lexxan33306:26
MightyFyeah06:26
YscOHave you seen one for real06:26
YscOor just from pictures?06:26
MightyFI've gotten 444 fps before06:26
lexxan4-cpu 4000+ with dual 6800s06:26
lexxanlol06:26
MightyFit was messing up the game, sending too much data to the server06:26
lexxanlol06:27
MightyFlexxan, WOW, maybe you'll get 333 now?!06:27
lexxanno i was saying if you had that you could get 333 :P06:27
MightyFlexxan, ohhh, right, yeah06:27
lexxanSounds nice.. but I also wouldn't be that retarded with my money lol06:27
eskouganda ubuntu06:28
MightyFlexxan, well, if you had enough to throw around, then maybe06:28
lexxanI suppose its like ricing your car06:28
jeroen_maybe you could spend it more usefull things then06:28
lexxanYou could blow it on a crazy computer06:28
lexxanlol06:28
MightyFlexxan, ha!06:28
lexxansomething that has no practical use but bragging rights06:28
lexxanlol06:28
MightyFjeroen_, yeah, no kidding06:29
lexxanI don't waste money heh06:29
MightyFlexxan, sure it has practical use, I wanna play doom 3 at the highest setting!06:29
lexxanI make quite a bit working with computers in the oilfield06:29
MightyFargh!06:29
lexxanand i save lots06:29
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lexxanThen the guys I work with.. they all got the toys06:29
lexxanbut they also live paycheck to paycheck06:29
MightyFummm, ok06:30
MightyF;)06:30
MightyFwe cleared the room06:30
lexxantoys meaning quads06:30
FunnyLookinHatDoes ET have a synaptic package?06:30
lexxanmotorbikes06:30
jeroen_no06:30
MightyFFunnyLookinHat, no06:30
FunnyLookinHatWell dang.06:30
lexxansports cars06:30
lexxanetc06:30
jeroen_yeah06:30
jeroen_it's annoying06:31
jeroen_uninstalling it isn't one-click06:31
MightyFFunnyLookinHat, and make sure you have your graphics cards dev packages before installing it06:31
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josh43wow - having major connection issues06:31
josh43but, yes, is there something I'm missing with a64 and wine?06:31
jeroen_aren't there a64 wine packages?06:32
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lexxanAll I see in here everyday is problems with a64 heh06:32
josh43not that I can find, so I even tried compling from the winhq source repository - but no go06:32
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lexxanI think you should go back to i386 :P06:32
josh43lol06:32
jeroen_Building the Wine Package from Source using APT:06:32
jeroen_APT also allows easy compilation from source of a package. This is useful if there is no binary package available for your architecture, or if you wish to create a fresh .deb file from scratch. To do this, first follow the instructions for installing from the console above, except instead of running apt-get install wine run 'apt-get build-dep wine'. This will download the needed development packages for your system to make the wine package.06:32
jeroen_Then, run 'apt-get --build source wine', have a snack, and wait for the compiling to finish.06:32
jeroen_To install your newly created package (which should be in whatever directory you were in when you ran apt-get --build source), run 'dpkg -i wine*.deb' as root.06:32
josh43ok, I have a p3 800 I'll swap out for06:32
AnguSwhat kind of snack=06:33
AnguS?06:33
lexxanlol.06:33
josh43ooooh, right - it built a deb. lol06:33
josh43ls06:33
jeroen_some Wine ofcourse.. duh!06:33
josh43oop06:33
josh43and cheeze?06:33
jeroen_http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb06:33
dell500has anyone installed cedega cvs through linux-gamers howto??06:33
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josh43DOH - now it thinks my ubuntu 64 cd is not a valid repository06:35
MightyFjeroen_, what do you want to run on wine that there isn't an equivalent for in linux?06:35
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jeroen_MightyF, I don't want to06:35
MightyFjeroen_, ok, what are you going to run on it?06:36
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josh43I'm the one running wine, and I'm looking for radmin first06:36
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MightyFoh, right06:37
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MightyFjeroen_, ha, my bad06:37
MightyFjosh42, what are you trying to run on wine?06:37
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jeroen_some <_< CD to learn english // but i've got wine working06:37
josh43Radmin client: www.radmin.com06:37
jeroen_I was trying to help josh06:37
jeroen_gtg06:37
jeroen_bye06:37
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FlyingSquirrel32What codecs do I need to play a wmv06:37
wezzer-w32codecs06:38
lexxanFlyingSquirrel32,06:38
josh43ls06:38
fadrianI'm getting a problem where gdm (or X or anything X-related) isn't starting up because it can't load the X libraries.  Any ideas?06:38
lexxanadd the marillat repository and apt-get install w32codecs06:38
lexxan?? marillathoary06:38
[uhelp] marillathoary: To quickly add the marillat repository enter this in console - echo deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list - Now type sudo apt-get update06:38
FlyingSquirrel32wezzer-: that's what I thought, already got it. must be a messed up file.06:38
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lexxanwell it's 4:20 here06:39
lexxanbrb06:39
dell500lol06:39
MightyFjosh42, have you considered using vnc?  or remote-desktop?06:39
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josh43MightyF: Yes, very much.. but there are some major features that are missing: namely the ability to easily daisy-chain connections.. I can forward only one port, and access any pc inside my lan directly06:40
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MightyFjosh42, ahhhh06:41
josh43"Connect through" as they call it06:41
MightyFblech06:41
josh43plus, it does encryption ottb, and sometimes I need to control other ppls window boxes06:41
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MightyFheh06:41
josh43yeah, like all those windows apps I've really come to depend on, there's no /exact/ replacement ;)06:42
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FunnyLookinHatOpenOffice replaced everything I "depended" on in windows...  of course I used open-office in windows as well.06:43
YscOAllrighty then, does anyone has a xconfig file for ubuntu 5.4 with an intel extreme 2 graphics card?06:43
yccheokany sourceforge user here?06:43
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josh43FunnyLookinHat: I need to replace a mouse gesture app, litestep, eudora, dreamweaver, flashfxp, samurize, and a couple of other things06:44
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sigidaho45, where abouts are you?06:45
sigI'm in Payette county06:45
dcravenyccheok: I'm a sourceforge user.06:45
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FunnyLookinHatjosh43: Sounds to me like you want to use OSX and just the Os X compiles of Macromedia stuff...  heh06:45
josh43ok, I did 'apt-get build-dep wine', and it went through - it says there should be a .deb, but I can't find it, and when I run 'apt-get build-dep wine' again, it says there's nothing to do06:46
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ZeroA4josh43, Dreamweaver can be replaced by nvu but it is not a 1:1 clone06:46
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josh43FunnyLookinHat: I would /like/ to run osx, but I like my a64, and I LOVE gnome/ubuntu06:46
josh43ZeroA4; where do I find that?06:47
FunnyLookinHatAs you should.  : )06:47
dcravenVim is a good Dreamweaver replacement.06:48
dcravenheh06:48
josh43lol06:48
josh43I run gvim and flashfxp in windows for the smaller sites06:48
NeWiTapico is even better06:48
ZeroA4josh43, http://www.nvu.com/ but there must be a repo with it06:48
sigZeroA4, yes check on http://ubuntuguide.org06:49
sigon installing that06:49
josh43do you know if it does php/css properly/well?06:49
sighttp://ubuntuguide.org/#Nvu06:49
ZeroA4Sig True!06:49
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Orangeyhey all!06:50
Orangeyhow can I force apt-get to ignore a dependency?06:50
Taliesin`apt-get -f ?06:50
josh43looks like a nice app - have to install that now :)06:50
ZeroA4josh43, http://ubuntuguide.org/#nvu06:51
josh43Already there06:51
OrangeyTaliesin`: is that a fact, or a suspicion? : )06:51
OrangeyTaliesin`: it says -f is "fix broken"06:51
Orangeywhat about dpkg --force?06:52
dcravendpkg --force-depends06:53
dcravenOrangey: "man dpkg" for more info.06:53
Orangeydcraven: gotcha.. and lastly, is there a way to download a .deb into my current directory?06:53
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dcravenOrangey: wget?06:54
Nechushtananyone here running amd64?06:54
josh43I am06:54
Orangeydcraven: when I don't know the source? do I really have to look it up, or can apt-get tell me where it is?06:54
Orangeyaha! /var/cache/apt/archives!06:55
dcravenOrangey: apt-get -d will put it in your achives.06:55
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Nechushtanjosh43: u have any good guides/faq/howto type pages for ubuntu on amd64?06:56
josh43Nechushtan; Anything specific you need?06:56
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josh43Cause it's very much the same as ubuntu i38606:57
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Nechushtanok06:57
bigbill52ai have amd-64 but i am running k706:57
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Nechushtanare all the i386 packages compiled for amd64?06:57
yccheokdcraven:hi06:58
dcravenyccheok: hi06:58
josh43all the i386 packages will run on a64, but they will be a bit slower than a64 packages06:58
mikailHey, David.  Is that you?06:58
yccheokdcraven: do u noe how can i create homepage for my sourceforge project?06:58
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Nechushtanjosh43: gotcha06:58
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fadrianHi all... When I try to start gdm, I'm getting an error message saying that the program can't load libXdmcp.so.6.  The file is there in /usr/X11R6/lib and there is an entry in /etc/ld.so.conf that says to look there.  Any ideas why X isn't finding that library?06:59
Nechushtanok, one more question anyone know how to manually install lilo or grub onto a scsi drive while in the installer's shell?06:59
dcravenyccheok: There is documentation for that at sf.net07:00
GianmariaHi all, any of you had tftpd not able to start trying wiki/localnetinstall?07:01
yccheokdcraven: can u please point me out? i read the shell service document, but get not much hint07:01
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DhanjelHi! Does anyone know how to uninstall ath_hal (atx111 chipset) network drivers? Can't get them to work so I want to use ndiswrapper instead.07:02
Gianmariawhat's the meaning of recvfrom: Socket operati07:02
Gianmariaon on non-socket07:02
Gianmariahow can it be solved? Thanks in advance linuxers07:03
DhanjelOr maybe you guys can help me fix the drivers, I get a signal strength but cannot use dhcp or static ip address. I get no results if I run iwlist can07:03
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jeroen_fadrian, I have no idea, but you could try to reinstall the lib07:04
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jeroen_fadrian, you get the same error when logging in a terminal and typing startx?07:04
spiralhi07:04
dcravenyccheok: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=4297&group_id=1#posting07:04
jeroen_hi07:04
josh43hrm.. anyone have any thoughts on: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables07:04
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josh43make: *** [configure-stamp]  Error 7707:05
jeroen_do you have gcc?07:05
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josh43I dunno.. I assumed so07:05
jeroen_can you check?07:05
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josh43yep - is there07:05
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Dhanjelanyone? :(07:06
josh43Dhanjel; wireless?07:06
Dhanjeljosh43: yeah07:06
josh43try installing a wardriver app :)07:07
Dhanjela d-link dwl-g520+ with TI ACX111 chipset07:07
Dhanjeljosh43: wardriver?07:07
josh43anyone know a good auto-connecting wardriver app for linux?07:07
Nechushtanso is SATA loaded like a true scsi or some sort of ide-scsi workaround?07:07
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Dhanjeljosh43: i managed to set it to use static ip and it gets a signal strength. but it only sends packages, never recieves..07:08
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tbastenhow do i compile my kernel so i can get the vesa modules at the end?07:09
josh43well, what I was going for; a wardriver's focus is to scan for wireless networks, find out how to connect, and give you a boatload of info about the connection point07:09
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bretzelNechushtan: Interresting question - I have a SATA hdd and /dev/sd[x]  may means SCSI no ?07:10
ek__does anyone have experience with ipod's under ubuntu?07:10
Dhanjeljosh43: ah ok07:10
Dhanjeljosh43: but you don't know the name of any good ones?07:10
mjrbretzel, (at least some) SATA thingies show up logically as SCSI devices (and yes they are)07:10
josh43Dhanjel; You could use Kismet07:11
Dhanjelok07:11
bretzelAnd I think SATA is not SCSI... Thus nor ide-scsi workaround is... interresting :-)07:11
josh43I havn't run wireless under linux yet, but kismet has some street cred ;)07:11
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mjrwell, SATA takes after SCSI, on the logical level, quite a bit, but so do earlier ATAPI systems too07:11
mjrmut it's not SCSI as such, no07:12
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bretzelthat's it! interresting ( again) but it means that (ATAPI, SATA) are after all, SCSI functions related :-)07:13
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jeroen_tbasten, kernel compiling: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelCompileHowto07:13
Nechushtanbut SATA will behave like scsi devices in linux as opposed to the ide-scsi workaround for ATA?07:13
tbastenjeroen_, i am not dumb, i cant seem to find the right swtich for vesa drivers07:13
tbastenjeroen_, i can compile07:13
jeroen_okay07:14
Nechushtanjosh43: is the sources.list for amd64 any different?07:14
bigbill52ai found a way to install windows on my sata drive and linux on my ide..they are totally independent of each other07:14
fadrianyes, I was.  I tried reinstalling the lib and that seemed to do the trick.  Thanks all...07:14
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bigbill52aso if i have to reinstall one or the other...it does not mess up the boot07:15
jeroen_that's nice07:15
bretzelNechushtan: Anyway, in the SATA-RAID bios, it is not SCSI, but my bios can emulate ( or put into ) the IDE-like functions ...07:15
jeroen_you can also just reinstall grub all the time..07:15
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Xappetried out gdesklets some minutes ago, are they broken somehow in Hoary?07:16
tbastennah07:17
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dcravenXappe: I don't think they are broken generally, no.07:17
tbastendazzed, hey dude07:17
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bretzelbigbill52a: I do have WindowXP Home edition, WindowsXP pro ( see windowslsd III ) in my SATA, and then this Linux-ubuntu also in the SATA drive, Bootable-raid enabled, non-IDE mode :-)07:17
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bretzelBut It was Brain-killer to setup the mix of IDE+ SATA drive for Windows... ( had to prepare drivers diskette for Windows installation )07:19
Xappedcraven: ok, I can't add starter to that fancy gdesklet starter bar nor access the options for the weather desklet07:19
dell500i installed cedega CVS, i'm suppose to run the cvscedega command, but it doesnt' work for some reason07:20
dcravenXappe: I've never used gdesklets, but I've heard of Ubuntu users having success in here.07:20
bretzeldell500: hey, is n't cedega supposed to be non-free, $$$ to obtain ?07:20
bigbill52awhen installing windows...just select none for ide drives and boot up from the sata drive...windows will not use the ide drives for boot...07:20
jeroen_Does anyone know why there's no ubuntu-calendar-may (yet)?07:20
Xappedcraven: i used them when I was running Hoary under development,but now there seems to be problems07:20
jeroen_I mean.. it *is* May...07:20
dell500bretzel, nope, cvs version is free07:21
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dell500if i had money for a subscription i would give them their $5 a month and have no worries07:21
dell500but i don't have $5 a month for them lol07:21
bretzeldell500: DOH!!! where to go to obtain it ?????? ---07:21
dcravenbretzel: It's no-cost, but crippled.07:21
MightyFLATER GUYS! gotta run!  peace jeroen_ dcraven josh43 and others07:21
dell500http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4507:21
bigbill52afor linux...turn ide drives back on (auto) and load linux into ide drive...07:21
dell500they have a howto07:21
dcravenLater MightyF07:21
dell500dcraven, very crippled07:22
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jeroen_Is there noone who knows why there's no ubuntu-calendar-may yet?07:22
jeroen_by MightyF07:22
jeroen_*bye07:22
bretzeldcraven: I don't understand "crippled" -- low english skills ...07:22
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jeroen_cripple = not able to walk07:22
dcravenjeroen_: I'm not sure the authors of the calendar frequent this channel.07:22
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jeroen_dcraven: true07:23
jeroen_But I'm eager for May :P07:23
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yahalomi'm having  weird dependency issues all of a sudden with mplayer, all the dependencies i have are apparently the wrong ones07:23
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morehello07:23
jeroen_hi07:23
dcravenbretzel: It is missing important peices that are required to successfully run many games/applications.07:23
yahalomi cant apt-get install mplayer because it says i need xmms but i have xmms so then it says i have the wrong xmms?07:23
moresomeone know wich program what can play mp3 works under ubunto?07:23
tbastenok, anyone know ANYTHING about compile kernels and here?07:23
bretzelbigbill52a: In my case, my bios ( ASUS P4 P800 SE ) doesn't allow bootable SATA in IDE mode... nust be in SATA-RAID-bootable ... Thus, Had to provide drivers at Windows install07:24
morelive cd07:24
jeroen_more, beep-media-player07:24
moreurl?07:24
yahalomcould it be because i installed tome-xine?07:24
jeroen_tbasten, can't you find it in menuconfig?07:24
tbastenno07:24
dcravenyahalom: Lose the merrilat repo from your sources.list and install the mplayer from universe and your problems will disappear.07:24
jeroen_that sucks...07:24
tbastenjeroen_, i dont think so, only go framebuffer shit07:24
morehow can i install it?07:24
yahalomdcraven, but i like my merillat depos.07:24
bretzeldcraven: sad, I wish I could run Westwood Command&Conquer General ( orig+ ZeroHour ) in Linux! :-)07:25
jeroen_more, you can do so with synaptic07:25
yahalomdcraven, maybe i should just compile it from source?07:25
moreremember i'm running on a live cd ;)07:25
dcravenyahalom: You could do that.07:25
jeroen_more, ah.. a live cd07:25
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yahalommccoy_, one issue it says i'm missing gtk so i cant install gui, any ideas?07:25
jeroen_more, ubuntu doesn't have mp3 support by default07:25
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jeroen_?? restricted07:25
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jeroen_?? restricted format07:25
moreno it dont got the codec07:25
morey :/07:25
jeroen_?? mp307:26
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moreyep i cant play mp3 :(07:26
jeroen_I'm trying to get uhelp to say something usefull07:26
jeroen_:P07:26
dcraven** format07:26
[uhelp] Found 4 matches. Sorted: dvd, java, mp3, restricted. (0.002s)07:26
dcraven?? restricted07:26
dcravenbroken bot07:26
jeroen_yeah..07:27
jeroen_?? mp307:27
jeroen_???????07:27
dcravenlexxan: Fix the bot! haha07:27
morewhat you running jeroen?07:27
jeroen_what do you mean, more?07:27
moreos?07:27
dazzedsup tbasten07:27
jeroen_http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:27
jeroen_Ubuntu07:27
bretzelQ: how , what can I install to have a clipboard-history ( like klipper ) in gnome ? ( the clipboard-daemon in ubuntuguide talk is not weel documented... )07:28
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tbastendazzed, not much man. cant see mto find anyone who knows anything about vesa drivers07:28
morety07:28
jeroen_does that help?07:28
moreyep07:28
jeroen_:)07:28
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dazzedtheres a wiki on them07:29
dazzedtbasten: ^07:29
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tbastenwiki.x.org?07:29
tbastenbeen there07:29
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jeroen_?? calendar07:29
[uhelp] calendar[x] : No defenition found for word.07:29
morenow i only need to get gstreamer0.8-mad package ;)07:29
jeroen_?? ubuntu-calendar07:29
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tbastenis there a generic driver for graphic cards07:29
[uhelp] ubuntu-calendar[x] : No defenition found for word.07:29
dazzedbrb07:30
dell500has anyone here installed cvscedega??07:30
dcraventbasten: Is it vesafb that you want?07:31
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tbastendcraven, isnt vesafb just for console, not gui?07:31
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dcraventbasten: It's for frame buffer.. But I don't know what you want.07:32
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tbastenok, i just want to use a generic driver for my video so i can get into X07:33
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morewow linux rocks with those free packages ;)07:33
bretzelStrange: hdparm -d1 fails for my DVD:  Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-109 ....07:33
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dcraventbasten: Have you tried changing the Device Driver in xorg.conf to "vesa"?07:34
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danko123456pioneer dvdrw??07:34
danko123456where doyou buy that?07:34
danko123456over the net?07:34
bretzeldanko123456: yes, -- Why, is it a crappy DVD-RW ??07:34
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tbastendcraven, yeah07:34
Madeyewhat is khelper in the process list?07:35
tbasten"module not found:07:35
dcraventbasten: Or maybe "vga"?07:35
tbastenhang on07:35
danko123456bretzel: no, just never heard pioneer made those...07:35
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danko123456probably a good one, though, pioneer is good usually07:35
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bretzeldanko123456: It is a Double-Layer burner, burning at 12.5x on those 8x DVD+/- R :-)07:36
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bretzeldanko123456: For now, it rocks and very fast.07:37
danko123456sopunds pretty gopod07:37
danko123456no p's07:37
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chx_hi. is there an easy way to see which module drives a specific dev file?07:37
GwildorRuffianSoldier07:37
bretzelI buy it in a local  computer store.07:38
danko123456anyone who wants to see some faces of Ubuntu developers, I got this link last night on this channel, http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/07:38
thullyhi - I just re-installed Hoary.  what sources should I add to the sources.list?  Right now I just have main/restricted/universe/multiverse and the updates/security updates for these07:38
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dell500can someone here help me with the cvscedega version??07:38
drcodeany one know why I got this error /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a ?07:38
danko123456thully: those should be fine...07:38
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danko123456thully: there is only one more07:39
thullyany special suggestions - I may add marillat, but that has had trouble as of late...07:39
chx_is there an easy way to see which module drives a specific dev file?07:39
jeroen_thully: what do you want to install?07:39
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jeroen_thully: what you have now is prob enough07:39
morehmm its still doesn't works xms hangs :/07:40
jeroen_it does?07:40
chx_is there an easy way to see which module drives a specific dev file?07:40
jeroen_that's weird07:40
danko123456marillat, and backports, thats it that I know of...both are not really very well supported...and a special suggestion, when upgrading to next Ubuntu comment those out if you add them07:40
moreyep it hangs07:40
thullyI do want to use a basic system+development+multimedia codecs07:40
moreby playing07:40
jeroen_I don't now much about the LiveCD07:40
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moreok np07:40
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jeroen_I can play mp3s perfectly...07:40
danko123456more: right away when you pres play right?07:40
morewhere you from jeroen?07:40
jeroen_NL07:40
tbastendoes anyone have a dual monitor setup?07:40
morehha m207:40
thullySo - what does backports get you07:40
jeroen_it gest you new updates07:41
danko123456thully: not sure, check out the forums.07:41
jeroen_for example: new version of gaim07:41
jeroen_and new wesnoth07:41
danko123456it talks about that07:41
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jeroen_these won't be updated in Ubuntu until Breezy07:41
moredo you run ubunto now ?07:41
jeroen_yes07:41
danko123456more: I had an issue with xmms hanging when you press play, freezes07:41
thullyany multimedia packages, or must you go to marillat for those?07:41
morestuur eens een screenshotje?07:41
jeroen_hoe?07:41
danko123456more: I fixed it by changing the out put somthing07:41
tbastenDoes anyone have a dual monitor setup?07:41
moregewoon printscreen toch?07:42
danko123456in options, preferences of xmms07:42
jeroen_jaa, maar sturen ;)07:42
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morerechter muisknop op me naam07:42
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danko123456thully: muiltimedia>?07:42
moreen dan xdcc07:42
thullyI want to be able to play/rip MP3 and play AAC (for songs from itunes)07:42
morectcp07:42
danko123456like restricted formats?07:42
danko123456thully:  apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins sudo apt-get install w32codecs07:43
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danko123456more!07:43
thullyYes - I'm just wondering if somebody has an alternative to marillat for these.  I've used marillat in the past, but the dependencies are broken now07:43
moresup07:43
tbastenDoes anyone have a dual monitor setup?07:43
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danko123456scroll up, to see about xmms07:43
bur[n] erthully: just use multiverse/universe ?07:43
jeroen_more, accepteer die transfer07:43
danko123456I understood that, jeroen_07:44
danko123456:)07:44
morebah07:44
jeroen_:)07:44
moreik durk op accept :s07:44
thullyI actually contributed to RestrictedFormats - but everything referring to marillat doesn't work right anymore (since there's a stupid dependency on a new glibc in sid)07:44
moredurk*07:44
jeroen_druk?07:44
moreja07:44
more:/07:44
jeroen_ik zit achter een router... :-/07:44
tbastenDoes anyone know much about setting up dual monitors?07:44
moredat zal het wel izjn ;)07:44
tbastenomg, english please07:45
jeroen_mijn scherm is toch niet zo interessant07:45
tbastenlol07:45
jeroen_Yes sir!07:45
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lexxantbasten, xinerama I think07:45
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morehow did i get root acces on terminal again?07:45
moresudo su?07:45
lexxanlibxinerama-dev - X Window System multi-head display library development files07:45
lexxanlibxinerama1 - X Window System multi-head display library07:45
lexxanlibxinerama1-dbg - X Window System multi-head display library (unstripped)07:45
jeroen_more, just check out some standard screenshots @ http://ubuntuforums.org07:45
tbastensudo *command u want*07:45
moreok07:45
morejeroen_ ok07:45
danko123456more: is that what happens with your xmms?07:46
jeroen_more, look at ubuntu art talk07:46
moreno it just hangs when i want to play the mp307:46
jeroen_more, or art gallery07:46
danko123456yes, can you just open it thouh?07:46
moreok ty07:46
danko123456just without a song07:46
moreit hangs when i press play07:46
moreit can open07:46
danko123456thats it07:46
danko123456I have your solutions likely07:46
danko123456I had the same thing07:46
morebtw its on a live cd ^^07:47
danko123456open it, and get to preferences07:47
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moreok07:47
morefirst i need to kill it07:47
danko123456change the output plugin to esound07:47
morehow do i kill it?07:47
danko123456k07:47
morebecause it still hangs07:47
danko123456there is a force quit plugin07:47
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danko123456I mean07:47
danko123456panel applet07:47
danko123456do you use gnome?07:47
moreye07:47
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danko123456k, right click on your pannel07:48
danko123456panel07:48
danko123456then add to panel07:48
danko123456and add a force quit apnel07:48
danko123456applte07:48
danko123456I just woke up, my fingers cant type yet07:48
danko123456so, add the applet, and force ill it.07:48
danko123456then, open it, and go to prefs, and change the output plugin to esound07:48
moreis there not a taskmanager because i dont understand it :/07:49
danko123456no, there is not07:49
danko123456so, do you think you get what I am getting you to do?07:49
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danko123456you right click on the panel, the top thing...07:49
moreyep but i need to kill the damn program07:49
morebut i can :/07:49
danko123456and add to panel07:49
morecant07:49
danko123456telling you.07:49
moreok07:49
morefound07:49
morepanel07:49
danko123456right click on the panel07:49
danko123456cool07:49
danko123456add to panel07:49
bretzelAnother Q: lmsensors seem cool, but cannot find where to find infos and install those sensors-related to my bios/motherboards ...07:50
danko123456Force quit is what you want to add07:50
graabeinhi... im the guy with the nvidia/nv problem... anyone care to help me?07:50
moredone07:50
danko123456killed?07:50
moreyes sir07:50
danko123456cool07:50
danko123456open xmms now, dont press play;)07:50
morelet me restart it07:50
danko123456yup07:50
Xappewhy not use top or something to kill it?07:50
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danko123456cause I dont know...07:50
danko123456:)07:50
danko123456tell us07:50
Xappeenter top in your terminal and you'll see07:51
moredamn i wont start anymore :/07:51
moreand i cant reboot since i'm on a live cd07:51
morelet me try to unistall and reinstall it07:51
Xappemore, check with top if it's still running07:51
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graabeinhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_space_dogs07:51
morewhat is top?07:51
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Xappea process viewer07:52
Xappemanager07:52
morewhere can i find the app?07:52
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moreok found it07:52
Xappemore: just enter "top" in a terminal07:52
moreit eating memory :A07:52
morethe xmms07:52
moreok done07:52
danko123456ok, i figured it out, thanks, Xappe07:52
moreok launched07:52
danko123456go prefs07:53
danko123456change output plugin07:53
moreti wucg>07:53
moreto wich?07:53
danko123456esound07:53
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danko123456I said it07:53
Xappedanko123456: another way is to use ps -A and the kill command ;)07:53
danko123456anyhow.07:53
moreok07:53
Xappeor killall xmms07:53
danko123456cool, thanks07:53
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danko123456oh, so thats where the killall gnome-panel comes from07:54
morei think i need to install the esound plugin07:54
danko123456try other ones that you have07:54
danko123456one may work07:54
morei tryed but none worked07:54
Xappemore: just kill esd then07:54
Xappemore: killall esd07:54
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danko123456it works then too?07:54
danko123456were about to see07:55
morewell this is the first time on linux07:55
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danko123456cool07:55
danko123456its a bumpy ride:)07:55
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yarrhow do I change the window manager gnome uses?  I'd like to switch to Sawfish07:55
morewow thnks :) works like a charm07:56
moreesound07:56
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morethanks for helping me out ;)07:56
ubuntuhello guys07:56
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Xappemore: the problem is you probably can't hear mutiple sounds with esd not running07:57
ubuntudoes somebody know how to make Gnome Shell transparent07:57
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danko123456it is not totally transparent07:57
danko123456it can show the desktop07:57
danko123456not the windows under it07:57
ubuntuwell no, just an image or something similar07:58
danko123456edit>current profile, effects tab07:58
iGamappl , is there anyone having this error: "A system error occurred." when tryng to use launchpad?07:58
GianmariaCarlK: Hi Carl, I checked the files and nothing seems wrong, but I discovered a new error: in.tftpd[335] : cannot bind to local socket: Address already in use, what do you think?07:58
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ubuntudanko, WOOOOW, thanks a lot mate, it works!!! THANKSS07:59
ShakeRyoyo07:59
danko123456heh, sure07:59
ubuntuthanks, bye now, must go and study a bit ;P07:59
danko123456iGama: havent tried to launch it yet07:59
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danko123456go, cya07:59
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ubuntuByez and thanks again07:59
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danko123456welcome08:00
iGamaim try to do some translations, and i can't :S08:00
danko123456can you do it through the web?08:00
danko123456try rosetta in google08:00
iGamadanko123456 its rosseta08:00
iGamahttps://launchpad.ubuntu.com/08:01
iGamai log-in, click rosseta, click on the file do translate, choose the languange and it gives me the error08:01
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danko123456whuichbrowser?08:02
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moredo you guys know where i can download new themes?08:02
danko123456www.gnome-look.org08:02
moreok08:03
danko123456ok08:03
morehow do you know so much?08:03
danko123456xmms not working?:(08:03
danko123456haha08:03
danko123456i know nothing08:03
moreyep its working08:03
danko123456I have some info08:03
danko123456sweet08:03
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danko123456with the killall esd?08:03
morei did thank you08:03
moreno with the sound08:03
moreesound08:03
danko123456sweet08:03
SITECHELLO08:03
danko123456cool, well that one I know cause I had the same issue08:03
danko123456then, the gnome-look I know cause I like themes too08:04
danko123456but, ask me most questions here, and I dont know.08:04
SITECIM NO SPEAK ENGLISH08:04
danko123456what do you speak?08:04
danko123456espanol?08:04
SITECIM SPEAK SPANISH08:04
morelol08:04
SITECSORRY08:04
danko123456join #ubuntu-es08:04
danko123456no need to be sorry08:04
Gianmariahi guys, when I try to start in.tftpd I get this error message in logs cannot bind to local socket: Address already in use, any ideas? Thank you08:04
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SITECOK TANKHS08:04
danko123456de nada08:05
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dell500how do i find out what a certain file is through term?08:05
danko123456more info, dell08:05
jeroen_you mean like properties?08:05
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danko123456color help....08:06
danko123456colors.08:06
danko123456they tell you what the file is...08:07
danko123456when you ls08:07
danko123456opening scripts in vi is helpfull if you can read that.08:07
bigbill52ais there anything available like truecrypt for windows08:07
bigbill52a?08:07
jeroen_what is truecrypt08:07
danko123456:)08:08
YscOencryption program08:08
YscO:)08:08
jeroen_well, you have gpg08:08
bigbill52atransparant encrypted drives08:08
jeroen_I don't know about encrypted drives08:08
bigbill52atruecrypt is free for windows...08:09
bigbill52a2000 2003 and xp08:09
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danko123456try sf.net08:09
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danko123456there is a search bar08:09
bigbill52ayou encrypt a file and then mount it as if it was a regular drive08:10
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morehmm that gnome look site is down :/08:10
bigbill52ai can only find the one for windows..from sound forge08:11
danko123456nope, I was just there08:11
airbusecho( "Hello World!!!" );08:11
airbushi08:11
airbushaha08:11
danko123456http://www.gnome-look.org/08:11
danko123456hi, airbus08:11
danko123456:)08:11
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morewell when i click on a theme it doesn't load futher08:12
danko123456you have a pop up blocker?08:12
danko123456using firefox?08:12
moreyep08:12
morebut it doesn't say a popup08:12
danko123456try enablilng popups for that site08:13
danko123456edit, prefs08:13
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moreok08:14
danko123456try, that may work, I know they are pop ups, the little previews...08:14
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airbusanyone know where i should put a skin for xmms?08:15
airbus/usr/bin/xmms is just one file08:15
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danko123456right08:15
jeroen_~/.xmms/themes (or something similar)08:15
danko123456~/.xmms, or something like that08:16
danko123456right08:16
danko123456let me see08:16
danko123456~/.xmms/skins08:16
airbusthis is my first morning using linux, lastnight was my first time touching it08:16
danko123456put the skin in there08:16
morenow the site down :/08:16
danko123456and then load it from the gui08:16
airbusso what is ~/.xmms08:16
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ivokshi08:16
danko123456a hidden xmms config folder in your home folder08:16
karljpa directory08:17
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ivokszijew08:17
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jeroen_~ means /home/username08:17
jeroen_where username is the current user's nam08:17
jeroen_*name08:17
danko123456hi ioks08:18
danko123456you espanol?08:18
ivoksdanko123456 zdravo08:18
jeroen_you can make .blabla files visible in nautilus with [ctrl]  + [h] 08:18
danko123456no,  remember youu now08:18
danko123456:)_08:18
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moreart.gnome.org is also nice08:18
danko123456nautilus is your folder viewer08:18
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ivoksGPL Sued For "Software Price Fixing" - LOL someone is brainless08:19
danko123456heh08:19
danko123456there is a soccer game in a alf hour08:19
danko123456champs league08:19
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ShadowRageokay08:20
ShadowRageWTF08:20
danko123456exactly08:20
ShadowRagewhy does ubuntu want to upgrade stuff that is available on cd or has already been installed?08:20
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ShadowRage280 mb worth of stuff08:20
ivokshttp://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1033/ - i like this one08:20
airbusis there anyway i can get an Address Bar in my folder viewer ?08:21
ShadowRageand xfree86 stuff08:21
ShadowRagewhich I dont need in hoary08:21
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shido6what can I use to screencapture in ubuntu08:21
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shido6no screenshot08:21
morewow the theming egine is pretty l33t from gnome ;)08:21
shido6but to start and record what I do on my screen08:21
danko123456there is a screenshot in the system menu08:21
KriegGoDcan anyone help me with proftpd ? im trying to start it but it's complaining.. "unable to set uid to 65534, current uid: 1000"08:22
airbusya thats what i was thinking, he wants vid tho08:22
danko123456wow, nit sure08:22
moredanko123456 send me a screenshot of your gnome ;)08:22
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ghetek1I'm on a mac, i dont know what type but i know its a slot loader.  i put in the live cd but it doesnt give me a gui. it says it has problems finding my display. any help would be much appreciated08:22
airbusanyone know if i can get an Address Bar in nautilus08:22
usualaimaz, use the browser08:23
danko123456which Mac?08:23
morewanna see my screen?08:23
danko123456sure08:23
ghetek1its an imac08:23
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usualaimaz, applications > system tools> File Browser08:23
Fish-FaceIs it possible to assume admin rights in nautilus, without restarting?08:23
ShadowRagealso, why cant I use non ubuntu repositories now?08:24
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ShadowRageIt's just outright telling me I cant use them08:24
usualFish-Face, you could sudo nautilus08:24
karljptelling you how?08:24
danko123456thats the milk theme08:24
moreyep08:24
Fish-Faceusual, without restarting nautilus?08:24
usualFish-Face, I think, let me try08:25
morewell i go boot back to xp;)08:25
morethen everything is gone08:25
usualFish-Face, yeah it worked08:25
usualFish-Face, what do you need root for in nautilus08:25
moreill cya08:25
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danko123456bye08:25
KriegGoDanyone?08:25
b0olhi, which repository do i have to add to get w32codecs?08:26
ghetek1it says cant connect to x server08:26
Fish-Faceusual, just conveniently copying files08:26
aimazusual, ?08:26
usualFish-Face, too and from where?08:26
usualaimaz, ?08:26
aimaz<usual> aimaz, applications > system tools> File Browser08:26
Fish-Faceusual, /fc3/usr/share/backgrounds to /usr/share/backgrounds08:26
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Fish-FaceSure, I can use a terminal, but it'd be nice to use nautilus :)08:26
usualaimaz, nautilus with an address bar08:26
ShadowRagecan anyone help me?08:27
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Fish-Faceoh, sorry, I meant, "without starting a new nautilus"08:27
aimazusual, hmm *scratch head* ok08:27
b0olhi, which repository do i have to add to get w32codecs?08:27
usualFish-Face, you might find something like sudo cp /fc3/usr/share/backgrounds/* /usr/share/backgrounds08:27
usualeasier and quicker08:27
danko123456ShadowRage: the marillat ones?08:27
usualaimaz, you asked08:27
karljpdon't cp!08:27
karljpln!08:27
aimazusual, I asked nothing08:27
ShadowRagedanko123456: yes08:27
Fish-Facekarljp, believe me, it's cp.08:27
ShadowRagedaniels: and some others08:27
danko123456ShadowRage: nope, cant help, same thing here08:28
danko123456:)08:28
usualaimaz, sorry08:28
usualaimaz, damn xchat nick comp08:28
usualment airbus08:28
ShadowRageso they're now locking in ubuntu users.08:28
aimazah np08:28
ShadowRagecute.08:28
Fish-Faceusual, I guess it's not possible to just assume superuserness in the middle of a nautilus session, then08:28
aimazjust a bit confused as to why after cleaning my kitchen I had messages on here08:28
karljpshadow, what are you talking about?08:28
danko123456no, its not that08:28
ShadowRagenow I cant install nicotine08:28
danko123456the marilat repo wont let you int08:28
karljphow are yo ubeing prevented from adding nonubuntu app sources?08:28
danko123456there is a fix08:28
usualFish-Face, you could however make a shortcut ont he desktop or a menu item in gnome to do gksudo nautilus --browser08:29
danko123456try finding out how to get the key for the marillat08:29
b0olhi, which repository do i have to add to get w32codecs?08:29
danko123456try enabling universe, multiverse, and security08:29
dell500are ms fonts (ie Tahoma, Verdana) accessible to ubuntu?08:29
Fish-Faceusual, certainly (although it's browser by default)08:29
hacWhat is the best desktop enveroniment for a slow pc?Gnome or Kde?08:29
danko123456im out to school, see ya later.08:29
b0oldanko123456: @ which source?08:29
Fish-FaceKnow Your Gconf!08:29
b0olo.O08:29
usualFish-Face, well that would be the best graphical way to do it08:29
usualFish-Face, use gksudo08:29
ShadowRagealso, I cant get newer mp3 libs08:29
ShadowRageI cant play mp3's08:29
Fish-Faceusual, yeah... hmm, pity08:30
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ShadowRagethis is really pissing me off08:30
danko123456dell500: yes, they aer, not sure how to add them08:30
lexxanhac, fluxbox08:30
lexxani guess that's a wm :/08:30
Fish-FaceNow I just need a special "superuser filebrowser" icon :P08:30
danko123456install the w32 codecs, ShadowRage08:30
dell500i'm just trying to get steam to work08:30
danko123456and the gstreamer libs08:30
usualFish-Face, even in windows you would have to do Run As or hold down shit on a right click to get run as, to do admin tasks08:30
b0oldanko123456:08:30
b0olhow to get w32codecs08:30
b0ol:/08:30
ShadowRagedanko123456: ...for mp3's...?08:30
airbusdanko08:30
lexxanb0ol08:31
ShadowRagewhy not libmp3 or libmp3123?08:31
danko123456this page will tell yiou, the ubuntuans on this channel dont lie this site much, though...08:31
danko123456http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs08:31
lexxan?? marillathoary08:31
airbuswhat is the absolute path for ~/.xmms08:31
[uhelp] marillathoary: To quickly add the marillat repository enter this in console - echo deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list - Now type sudo apt-get update08:31
JoKyXb0ol, try marillat repositories08:31
airbusi dont know what the ~ does08:31
haclexxan; i never try it.Its better than xfce?08:31
lexxanthen apt-get install w32codecs08:31
danko123456hey, lexxan08:31
b0olcan you give me link pls? :>08:31
danko123456:)08:31
lexxanhac, just minimal08:31
b0oladdress i mean08:31
b0olsry >:08:31
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usualairbus, ~ is another way of saying your home dir08:31
danko123456http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs08:31
haclexxan: tnx08:31
b0olthnx08:31
usualairbus, like /home/airbus/.xmms08:31
Funraiserdoes someone know a website to find any files on newsgroups? To check all the newsgroups at once for a specific file?08:31
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thullydoes somebody know how I would check what my DPI is setto in X, and change this if incorrect?08:31
ShadowRagehoary is very broken08:32
danko123456not really08:32
usual?08:32
ghetek1so if no one knows how to help me with mac should i try another version?08:32
usualwhats broken in hoary08:32
Funraiserhoary is doing funny things to me08:32
ShadowRagemp3's dvd's08:32
Funraisercompared to warty08:32
danko123456not sure, ghetek1, I have a iBook g4, and works fine08:32
Funraiserso anyone knows how to check all newsgroups at once?08:33
airbusdanko123456, do you know the absolute path of ~/.xmms08:33
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Nechushtananyone have the direct link to download java for amd64?08:33
danko123456whats your user name?08:33
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usualyay evolution is back in breezy08:33
ghetek1my user name?08:33
danko123456no, airbus08:33
thullyShadowRage: are you talking about packages from marillat?08:33
MellarNechushtan: you cant install gnus java, or download Java from suns website08:33
ghetek1oh ok08:34
jeroen_Hoary is not broken08:34
Funraisernobody knows about newsgoups here??08:34
danko123456ghetek1: not sure, mine worked, ee those stars beside some nicks?08:34
ShadowRageubuntu is getting more complicated with each release08:34
dell500how do you find out what fonts are installed??08:34
danko123456they may know wsomething, but are not here now08:34
jeroen_http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:34
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airbusFunraiser, i know newsgroups but thats not how they work08:34
ShadowRagethully: oh and the fact it's now requiring me to download 280 mb worth of packages that should have been upgraded off of cd.08:34
danko123456airbus: whats your user name08:34
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ShadowRageand saying I'm still on warty08:34
danko123456Ill tell you the absolute path08:34
ShadowRageKernel: Linux 2.6.10-5-386 | Distro: unknown | CPU: Pentium @ 399 MHz | Mem usage: 183.3/314.3 MB (58%) | Swap usage: 8.5/333.6 MB (3%) | Disk usage(Maxtor 2B020H1): 4.7/18.2 GB (26%) | Uptime: 13 hrs 57 mins08:34
lexxanyou have slow internet or something08:34
airbusairbus08:35
AbsenthI don't suppose anyone here has done anything with mind mapping?08:35
airbus/home/airbus/...08:35
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danko123456ok, /home/airbus/.xmms08:35
thullyShadowRage - do you have the CD in your apt sources?08:35
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danko123456go ls -l in your home dir.08:35
NechushtanMellar: why not?08:35
Funraiserairbus, well i know at least one website where one can check for a specific file on many newsgroups at once08:35
thullyAlso - remember that universe packages will need to be updated off the net - which may account for the 280 MB08:35
airbusdanko123456, what does the ~ do then?08:35
NechushtanFunraiser: i know some newsgroups stuff08:35
danko123456it is a shell variable08:36
[CJ] Inverthello, is there a way for me to read files on my NTFS (windows) partition with my live Ubuntu CD (gnoppix)????08:36
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airbusfunraiser, ya but thats downlaod all the newsgroups seprately, they just kepe track of them08:36
lexxan?? mount ntfs08:36
[uhelp] mount[x] : No defenition found for word.08:36
lexxan?? mountntfs08:36
[uhelp] mountntfs: To learn about mounting windows partitions (ntfs, fat) see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows08:36
FunraiserNechushtan, do you know a website where one can check many newsgroups at once for a specific file?08:36
[CJ] Invertty ty08:36
airbusFunraiser, you need to add all your groups in your group list, and then just scan them and wait08:36
MellarNechushtan: hu?08:36
NechushtanFunraiser: newzbin.com08:36
airbusfunraiser, www.newzbin.com08:36
NechushtanMellar: java for amd6408:36
Funraiseranother one?08:36
danko123456it gets replaced with what your user that you are using's home folder path08:37
Funraiseri checked this one already thanks08:37
NechushtanFunraiser: what type of file?08:37
airbusFunraiser, thats probably the best one08:37
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airbusFunraiser, what client are you using08:37
RuffianSoldierhow is PPP in Hoary?08:38
danko123456k, im out to school08:38
danko123456bye now!08:38
Funraiserairbus, pan08:38
airbusthanks danko123456  later08:38
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Echylowhere can I find the log files of proftpd server ?08:38
Echyloor at least some information about who is visiting it08:38
dell500anyone here know how to get Tahoma font on Ubuntu??08:38
Funraiserairbus, i know pan sucks but nget is too hard to run08:38
NechushtanEchylo: /var/log should have an access or auth log08:38
NechushtanFunraiser: nzbget08:38
ShadowRagethully: yes08:39
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FunraiserNechushtan, there is a gui?08:39
danko123456_awaysudo apt-get install msttcorefonts08:39
danko123456_awaythere dell50008:39
airbusFunraiser, both are news to me, i havent even been using linux for 24hrs08:39
dell500i did that08:39
NechushtanFunraiser: no, but its a simple CLI08:39
dell500does that include Tahoma??08:39
danko123456_awaythat likely installs tru type ms fonts08:39
airbusso i dont know all the names of the programs yet08:39
danko123456_awaytry google to see.08:39
dell500i don't think Tahoma is included08:39
ShadowRageoh and ad a working dialer in warty08:39
karljpit probably does include tahoma, tahoma is pretty bog standard.08:39
dell500or at least this thread on ubuntu forums is incorrect08:39
ShadowRagebut in hoary is become some new applet that won't work08:40
dell500is ther any way to find out what fonts are isntalled??08:40
ShadowRageand to do anything it requires root08:40
FunraiserNechushtan, i'll try08:40
karljpthought it appears not have, I guess you';re right,08:40
ShadowRageconstantly08:40
karljpnot tahoma in mstcorefonts08:40
danko123456_awaydoes not include it08:40
ShadowRagemodem_lights applet was a lot better08:40
thullyShadowRage: yes - Hoary has a broken PPP applet - install gnome-ppp from universe and use that instead (or else just use the command line)08:40
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ShadowRagethully: doesn't appear on my list08:40
danko123456_awaythis is the first google hit for tahome linux http://www.linux.com/howtos/Font-HOWTO/fonts.shtml08:41
danko123456_awayk, Im away anyhow...08:41
dell500thanks dank08:41
danko123456_awayhah08:41
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danko123456_awaywelcome08:41
danko123456_awayi try08:41
karljpyou can always just copy tahoma.ttf from a widows machine to usr/share/fonts/*08:41
ShadowRageargh08:42
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ShadowRagefigure this crap out later08:42
ShadowRagebbl08:42
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dell500karljp, awesome, that's what i'm gonna do lol08:43
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karljpit's dubious legally I believe.08:43
karljpbut it's pretty low on the list of things to get upset about08:43
_SMP_Hi, I'm trying to update (within eclipse) in Ubuntu on amd64 and I get an error stating that "http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.0/plugins/org.eclipse.platform.source.linux.gtk.amd64_3.0.2.jar]  Unable to retrieve remote reference" Is anyone running Eclipse 3.0.2 on Ubuntu? I know it sounds like an eclipse problem, but their chan is totally dead...08:43
dell500it's legal as long as you have windows08:43
dell500a legit copy that is08:43
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dell500i'm pretty sure my windows partition is mounted, but i don't know where08:44
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karljpI'm not sure if it's legal to use it outside your windows though08:44
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pablo928Hello, i've got video problems again. Very sluggish 3d.  It was fine when i loaded hoary, but just quit! Help please.08:44
karljplike I said, it's not something I'd get too upset about.08:44
airbusdell500, its probably not mounted if you dont know where considering you have to create the folder for it to mount to first08:45
dell500nm, dun fo-got to mount lol08:45
dell500"You are correct sah!"08:45
unpersonHi, I upgraded from Warty to hoary recently and periodically since the upgrade my machine grinds to a halt.  I hadn't figured out why until just now I notices that top shows 0 k for swap (free or used).  My swap partition does not show up when I run df, though it is in my /etc/fstab.  Anyone know what's going on here and how I get my system to use my swap again?08:45
airbussudo mount -t ntfs /dev/* /path/to/mountfolder08:45
usualunperson, maybe swapon08:46
dell500doesn't it need some kinda of block number08:47
dell500to start at or something08:47
FunraiserNechushtan, do u use nzbget often?08:47
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NechushtanFunraiser: yea08:47
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Nechushtanwell, I use nzbq which launches nzbget08:47
FunraiserNechushtan, it's works with big files too?08:47
Nechushtanyea, so far no issues for me08:48
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edsuomHow can I get deeper into CUPS admin than the Gnome printing tool? The web interface seems disabled.08:48
Xappeedsuom: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf08:48
Nechushtanedsuom: the conf files08:48
karljpanyone know how to change the umask used when my USB2 harddrive gets mounted?  it has no fstab entry08:48
airbuswhere do i get nzbget ?08:48
airbusor nzbq?08:48
bassMonkehi, I have a large quantity of images I'd like to put on my website, the problem is that they take up way too much space so i'd like to resize them... Is there a program for ubuntu that convieniently could batch-resize jpegs in several folders like irfan view for windows does?08:48
unpersonusual:  Checking out the man page...  Any idea why the upgrade made it start ignoring the swap?08:48
Nechushtannzbget is a sourceforge project08:49
airbuskarljp, you have to add a fstab entry08:49
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karljpairbus :(08:49
airbuskarljp shouldnt be too tough08:49
karljpI guess I don't chnage the volume name of that drive very often.08:49
karljpno, it just gets rid of some of it's automaticness.08:50
airbusopen file browser, and browse /dev08:50
airbusfind the name of the device08:50
FunraiserNechushtan, i can't install it, missing libs as usual08:50
airbusand sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/devicename /path/to/mount08:50
usualunperson, no:(08:50
unpersonHmmm...I gues I'll just try swapon -a and see what happens.08:51
NechushtanFunraiser: have you tried installing the required lib-dev's?08:51
karljphow did you know it was ntfs :)08:51
FunraiserNechushtan, no08:51
NechushtanFunraiser: ;-)08:52
dead^^suomalaisia?08:52
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FunraiserNechushtan, one has to compile the libs first before compiling the app...no wonder M$ is number one, anyway i'll just Pan for now, thanks for your help Nechushtan08:53
unpersonusual:  Ok, any idea how I set it to use the swap on boot?08:53
usualunperson, if you go to applications > system tools > System monitor08:53
usualthen click resources08:53
NechushtanFunraiser: you don't have to compile the libs, just apt-get install them08:53
usualdoes it say your using swap08:53
airbuskarljp, most drives now are ntfs. fat32 is prety much gone08:54
NechushtanFunraiser: the apt model is better than the MS model if its packaged for deb08:54
karljpairbus: sure, but I wish it was fat, cos THEN I COULD ACTUALLY USE IT08:54
FunraiserNechushtan, like for libxml2 I type apt-get libxml2 ?08:54
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airbusya but its useless in windows then08:55
NechushtanFunraiser: apt-get install libxml2-dev08:55
Funraiserreally08:55
karljpairbus: it's not useless, windows can still r/w vfat,08:55
Funraiserlemme check08:55
NechushtanFunraiser: do you have tab completion enabled?08:55
karljpyou just lose some of the benefits of ntfs08:55
FunraiserNechushtan, yes08:55
Nechushtanuse it with apt-get install it'll list matching packages08:56
unpersonusual:  Hmm... "swapon: /dev/hda1: Invalid argument"08:56
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unpersonthat's ood08:56
unpersonodd, even.08:56
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FunraiserNechushtan, i see k i'll try08:56
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tanekeverything would be solved if crappy windows just started using reiserfs :D08:57
NechushtanFunraiser: theres a few other dev's it might need, i don't remember off hand08:57
usualunperson, is this just an ubuntu box?08:57
ivokshi ho08:57
ssamis there an ETA on the ubuntu hoary shipit cds?08:57
ivoksicecream! mmmmmm08:57
Nechushtantanek: that would be nice =)08:57
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FunraiserNechushtan, it needs uulib08:57
jeroen_ssam, no08:57
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t3rrorwell, i am pretty satisfied with vnc tunnelled tttttttttttttttthrough ssh08:58
jeroen_tank, there is an ext3 reader for windows08:58
t3rrormaybe08:58
t3rrorhaha08:58
taneksure would :P and its free, they can use it if they want to :P08:58
t3rrortoo many t's08:58
jeroen_tanek, maybe there's also reiserfs reader08:58
unpersonusual:  Well, there's a version of Windows on here, though it's really just a vestigal appendage these days.08:58
ssamjeroen_ fair enough08:58
ssamjeroen_ thanks08:58
tanekjeroen_: there is?08:58
usualunperson, but windows is usually on /dev/hda108:58
tanekcool08:58
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unpersonusual:  Not in this case, though.08:58
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usualunperson, k08:58
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airbusfunraiser08:59
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taneksee ya round, gotta eat ;)08:59
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Funraiserairbus, yes?08:59
airbusuulib is in the nzbget foler08:59
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airbusim trying to install this too, and i dont know whta to do08:59
t3rrorwhat would be the easiest way to make a new partition off free space on /?08:59
unpersonusual:  But as I said, this was working with warty.  The only thing that changed was I changed my repositories to hoary and upgraded.08:59
airbusFunraiser, is there a readme you are following somwhere08:59
t3rrorfdisk?08:59
Funraiserairbus, there is the readme file08:59
airbuswhere08:59
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Funraiserairbus, and Nechushtan is helping09:00
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Funraiserairbus, did u download the source?09:00
airbuswherer is the readme?09:00
airbusyes09:00
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NechushtanFunraiser: u get libuu-dev installed?09:00
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edsuomWhy did the Ubuntu cups team decide that web admin wasn't useful?09:01
FunraiserNechushtan, not yet i forgot the -dev thing...09:01
jeroen_tanek, there is something for ext309:02
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jeroen_tanek, search for reiserfs+windows; you might get lucky ;)09:02
Funraiserairbus, if u extract the files it's there09:02
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FunraiserNechushtan, actually it's uulib,so that would be sudo apt-get install uulib-dev?09:03
NechushtanFunraiser: i believe the package is libuu-dev though09:04
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FunraiserNechushtan, k09:04
FunraiserNechushtan, it is it's working09:05
FunraiserNechushtan, then there is libstdc++   (usually part of g++)09:05
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FunraiserNechushtan, don't know if it's already included in Ubuntu...09:06
airbuswhy cant they just give u .tar.gz wtf09:06
airbusok i have ot go eat im starving09:06
ivoks:)09:06
Funraiserciao09:06
airbusdoes anyone know if u can apply for job at best buy online?09:06
airbusif so URL plz !!!09:06
airbusbrb09:06
saromHow is ubuntu pronounced? you-bountou?09:06
Funraiseri think so yes09:07
NechushtanFunraiser: you try make to see if its happy?09:07
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FunraiserNechushtan, shouldn't I install libstdc++ first?09:08
Fackamatoanyone familiar with ipv6?09:08
SaMRoXI want tu install GNOME-Art, the setup says Setup09:08
SaMRoX-----09:08
SaMRoX  Run as root:09:08
SaMRoX  ruby setup.rb09:08
SaMRoXbut when I write ruby it says commando not found09:08
SaMRoXhow i solve this?09:08
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karljpdpkg -l | grep ruby shows whether you have ruby installed or not?09:09
NechushtanFunraiser: i think its installed with the base system09:09
FunraiserNechushtan, i'll ./configure to see if some libs are missing09:09
karljpdo you believe you have ruby?09:09
NechushtanFunraiser: yea09:09
karljpif you don't have have ruby, just try apt-get install ruby and then come back and do ruby setup.rb09:09
SaMRoXI installed ruby from synaptic, but it stills doesnt work09:09
FunraiserNechushtan, and what about libncurses?09:09
Funraiserincluded?09:09
karljpso you can't run ruby from the cli09:09
SaMRoXbut should i do?09:10
NechushtanFunraiser: dunno, I'm using 0.1.2 which doesn't use ncurses (no server)09:10
Funraiserk09:10
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SaMRoXok, solved09:11
NechushtanFunraiser: libncurses5-dev if needed09:11
usualSaMRoX, what was wrong09:11
SaMRoXi just reinstalled ruby09:12
airbussudo apt-get install FOOD09:12
airbusE: Couldn't find package FOOD09:12
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guupstayet we hunger09:12
airbusi am so hungry09:13
Nechushtanugh, why can't i open the display via ssh...09:13
airbusall we have is miniwheats09:13
SeveasNechushtan, do you use ssh -X?09:13
guupstai'm off to cook some noodles :(09:13
slappy14set ur display09:13
guupsta-->09:13
FunraiserNechushtan, k09:13
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slappy14xhost +machine09:13
Seveasand have X forwarding enabled on the server...09:13
NechushtanSeveas: yea, the client is set up to use -X via ssh_config and it worked before I installed amd6409:13
NechushtanSeveas: yea, it looks to be enabled for the server too09:15
FunraiserNechushtan, the ./configure seem to work, but i'll install libncurses anyway09:16
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karljp/dev/sda        /media/backups  ntfs    ro,user,umask=0333  0   0 << how come this is still mounting with the directory perms set to rx---------?09:17
karljpis it trying to use the ntfs perms?09:18
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karljpI want it to come up as -r-wxr-xr-x09:18
karljpso everyone can access it (namely www-data)09:18
FunraiserNechushtan, can I ./configure twice?09:18
karljpyou can ./configure as often as you like.09:18
Funraiserk09:18
karljpyou can make as often as you like09:18
karljpyou can make install to reinstall the newly made/configured vesrion as often as you like.09:19
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vaiuxkarljp, 022209:19
FunraiserNechushtan, make install is always with sudo?09:19
karljpumask values are upside down aren't they?09:19
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Funraiseror karljp09:19
NechushtanFunraiser: yea, sudo make install09:19
vaiuxkarljp, 777-222=55509:19
Funraiserk09:20
airbus_afkkarljp, you can try umask=002 also09:20
karljpmake install is with sudo normally, but if you configured a --prefix, to put it somewhere under home, then you might not need to09:20
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airbus_afksome guy in here last night told me 002 and it works great09:20
Nechushtanyea, sudo is only needed it it is going to install it into a directory only writeable by root09:20
dell500what does this mean?? Fontconfig error: "~/.fonts.conf", line 1: no element found09:21
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dell500it happens when i open the cvscedega config09:21
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airbus_afkdell500, ~/.font is in /home/username/.fonts.conf09:21
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airbus_afkits obviously not found09:21
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Funraiserairbus, are u going to the le bourget show in june to see the airbus a380?09:22
Funraiserit's gonna fly09:22
airbushaha what is airbus a38009:22
airbusairbus just sounds funny to me, thats why i got the name09:23
Funraiserairbus, u do know that airbus is a company right?09:23
airbushad no idea09:23
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osmandemirhanhi, what is the debian equivalent of "rpm -qf filename"?09:23
vaiuxairbus, you must live under a rock09:23
airbuslol09:24
airbusi live at my computer desk (if thats close to the same thing)09:24
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Funraiserairbus, airbus is the company that sells more jets than boeing, u know what boieng is?09:24
Funraiserlol09:24
airbusya i know boeing09:24
jeroen_osmandermirhan, if you tell us what -qf does09:24
ivokslol09:24
ivoksairbus rocks09:24
Funraiserairbus rulez09:25
airbusi know i do !09:25
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ivoksEU will eat USA ;)09:25
Funraiserlol09:25
schasiivoks: sure it will09:25
mifuneairbus: http://www.airbus.com/A380/seeing/indexminisite.aspx09:25
vaiuxjeroen_, tells you what package a file belongs too09:25
airbusEU rocks, ill agree with that09:25
Funraiserwell i hope EU will not eat USA,competition is good09:25
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ivoksschasi well, while bush is president, i'm sure in US disaster :)09:25
schasiivoks: You may be right09:26
osmandemirhan-q for query and -f for file. this commands gives filename is belongs to xxx.rpm package09:26
Funraiserairbus got that good because of boieng09:26
tanekbush himself is the definition of disaster09:26
schasiBut even as lazy dog, he may improve things compared to his last period09:26
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schasiIt is said09:26
mifunesomeone here that wants to help me making my soundblaster 16 card work?09:26
ivoksdollar is so low... it'w worthless09:26
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Nechushtanwhoa, leave for a minute and everyone gets political...09:26
Funraiserlol09:26
airbuslol09:26
Funraiserairbus started it all!09:27
ivoksonly 4 years ago it was 10KN for 1$, now is 5KN for 1$09:27
airbushaha09:27
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airbusmy NAME started it all... not myself09:27
airbushaha09:27
Funraiserwhat's KN?09:27
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FunraiserKubuntu currency?09:27
jeroen_yeah, do that!09:27
ivoksFunraiser :))09:27
jeroen_Funraiser, that's just what I thought :)09:27
osmandemirhanactually, I want to find a command gives me /path/to/filename extracted from xxx package09:27
ivoksFunraiser kuna - croatian currency09:27
Funraiseroh09:27
holycowlol09:27
Funraiseri thought u had the euro already09:27
airbusKN stands for KousaNd as in "One Kousand Dollars"09:28
holycowthat new airbusss looks like a recipe for disaster09:28
Funraiserlol09:28
tanekin swedish kroner the dollar has gone from 11 to like 6-7 in the last year09:28
airbuslol09:28
ivoksFunraiser not yet...09:28
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jeroen_Dollars are worthless09:28
holycowi'm thinking they are trying to figure out how to kill more people simultaneously09:28
ivoksFunraiser policitcs :) u see, Romaina and Bulgaria are ready for EU, but Croatia isn't :)09:28
SaMRoXhow do I set to auto-connect on disconnection in xchat?09:28
airbusholycow, whats wrong w/ new airbus09:28
tanekeuro went from 0.9 dollar to 1.5 :P09:28
ivoksFunraiser u would lough for years if u would visite all three countries :)09:28
holycowairbus, better way to kill more people simultaneously09:28
taneklol09:29
airbuslol09:29
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holycowivoks, your croatian?09:29
Xappetanek: hey, kronor not kroner ;)09:29
Funraiser800 passengers at once09:29
airbusholycow, can u imagine that as their slogan:09:29
Nechushtanugh, why aren't my ATA devices being seen now...09:29
ivoksholycow yes09:29
holycowFunraiser, :) just wait until you see that thing dissapear into the side of a mountain09:29
holycowbrilliant thinking09:29
tanekXappe: tss, "rikssvenska" sucks;) sry09:29
airbus"Airbus, a better way to kill more people simultaneously"09:29
ssamis there enough oil left on the planet to get an a380 off the ground?09:29
airbuslol09:29
holycowairbus, rofl09:29
holycowhaha :)09:29
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airbushahaha09:29
holycowairbus, the funny thing it has a ring to it :)09:29
Xappetanek: damn stockholmare09:30
holycowkinda catchy09:30
airbusit does09:30
tanekXappe: yeah, damn them all :D09:30
airbuswe should try to sell it to them09:30
ssamand will 3 come along at once09:30
taneklol :D09:30
Funraiserholycow, but u do know that travelling by airplane is the safest way?09:30
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Xappetanek: ahaha09:30
SaMRoXhow do I set to auto-connect on disconnection in xchat?09:30
tanek:P09:30
holycowivoks, oh i see what your currency stuff posting was, your currency is now stronger against the dollar eh?09:30
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jeroen_smarox, IRC -> bla bla09:30
ivoksholycow nope... it's 5kn for 1$09:30
holycowFunraiser, statistically yeah, i was just kidden09:30
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Nechushtanok, anyone know how to get ubuntu to see ide drives?09:31
Funraiserk09:31
jeroen_samrox, IRC -> blabla09:31
holycowi'm sure the airbus will be fine09:31
SaMRoXthx jeroen_09:31
holycowivoks, but you said it used to be 10k to $109:31
Funraiserk09:31
Xappethink I need to learn screen soon, would be grat to have centericq and irssi in splitscreen09:31
ivoksholycow euro didn't change rate, only $... it's going down every month09:31
ssamnechushtan, it should just see them09:31
ivoksholycow yes09:31
holycowthat means you doubled the value of k, or halves the value of $09:31
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mifunesomeone here that wants to help me making my soundblaster 16 card work?09:31
holycowah okay09:31
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ivoksholycow not 10k (as 10 000), but 10KN :)09:31
tanekmifune: whats the problem?09:31
ssamnechushtan, do they get /dev/sda files09:31
bckhello dudes, how can i add a second soundcard? it only shows the onboard chip09:31
holycowivoks, i grokked :) my nomenclature sucks, i know nothing of the balkans :)09:32
holycowhaha09:32
Nechushtanssam: nope, no /dev/sd or /dev/hd09:32
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ivoksholycow :)09:32
holycowwhat city are you in that i could google?09:32
tanekbck: there should be another /dev/dspx09:32
josh42ok, I thought i Had this licked.. I have the radeon drivers in, it shows good when I do fglrxinfo, but I just loaded Darwinia, and: 1fps in 800x600 with everything set to low.. a64 3000+, radeon 9800pro09:32
mifunetanek: it wasnt detected when i reinstalled ubuntu09:32
ssamnechushtan, hmmmm09:32
tanekmifune: it's not in /dev ?09:32
ssamhave you just installed it?09:32
Nechushtanssam: yea =) all cause i have a scsi boot drive and the installer is f-d for that09:33
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bcktanek, i have no /dev/dspx09:33
josh42is there a way to check if darwinia is crazy, or if I really can't do 3d in hardware?09:33
ivoksholycow blakan is part of the world where world doesn't want to have anything to do with :)09:33
airbusany one here watch invader zim09:33
mifunetanek: ehh09:33
ssamnechushtan, is it a jumper or cable problem?09:33
Nechushtanssam: yea, i had to unplug all the ide drives to get the installer to install the bootloader correctly09:33
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Nechushtanssam: i'm gunna reboot one more time and make sure they;re all recognized by the computer09:33
DragoraNhi09:33
ssamnechushtan, does the bios see them?09:33
Thorrn4hello!! I have a problem...I installed KDE on Ubuntu and I chose the Plastik theme but all of the applications have the Windows looks to it!!09:34
tanekmifune: do you have a /dev/dsp that's not beeing used or no /dev/dsp at all?09:34
DragoraNwhy i have missing alsaconf? i have alsa-utils package installed..09:34
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patrickhello09:34
airbushey patrick09:34
saromAnyone know if I can easily go back to gnome if I didn't like kubuntu?09:34
NechushtanThorrn4: theres a windows theme?09:34
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Funraiserairbus, so u saw the picture of the airbus A380 ? (the biggest plane ever some say, I think the Goose from Howard Hugues was bigger but not sure)09:34
patrickDoes anyone know a good eMule type program for ubuntu?09:34
josh42Thorrn4: "Edit" the theme - the frames around windows and the insides of the windows are differnet parts - play around :)09:34
Funraiserpatrick, amule09:35
ivokspatrick amule09:35
mifunetanek: no /dev/dsp at all09:35
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airbuswhats amule09:35
Funraiserpatrick, www.ubuntuguide.org09:35
Thorrn4Nechushtan, I think it is called "Redmond"09:35
josh42emule clone..09:35
ivoksairbus boings new plain09:35
Nechushtanssam: bios' sees em. but i do get a pci error at boot09:35
thegreedyturtleGPL emule clone09:35
airbusand yes Funraiser, i saw the a38009:35
airbusvery large09:35
airbuswhat is emule (what does it do)09:35
ivoksomg09:35
Funraiserairbus, do u live on the moon?09:35
NechushtanThorrn4: ahh, and you switched to the plastik theme? it should be immediate09:35
holycowairbus, p2p filesharing crap that doesn't work09:36
LouisJRGDoes anyone have any suggestions why my sound isn't working? I have an Audigy 2 ZS under Ubuntu 5.04 The sound works (just about) on XP and used to work on Mandrake 10.109:36
ivoksairbus do u know what emule is?09:36
tanekhmm, maybe its something with the kernel, try another ? :P09:36
airbusFunraiser, ive been using linux for <24hrs09:36
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ssamnechushtan, have you posted to the forums / mailing list with details of you chipsets09:36
Thorrn4josh42, both the theme and the window decor, are both at Plastik...it made no difference09:36
josh42airbus: same as this: http://www.emule-project.net/home/perl/help.cgi?l=109:36
holycowivoks, p2p file sharing crap that doesn't work09:36
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ivoksairbus but emule and edonkey2000 are known things in windows world too :)09:36
ivoksholycow ?09:36
Funraiserairbus, emule is like one of the most famous app ever...09:36
ivoksnot09:36
ivoksxterm is09:36
josh42Thorrn4: What happens when you change to another theme?09:36
holycowivoks, oh sorry i thought you were asking the question :)09:36
thegreedyturtleyeah but some people don't spend a lot of time swiping files anymore09:36
ivoks:)09:36
airbushmm i still dont know what it is09:36
airbusxterm rox!09:37
Thorrn4I did not switch to it Nechushtan. when I installed KDE it come like this09:37
Funraiserairbus, it's to download copyrighted material basically09:37
ssamisn't gtk-gnutella better for file sharing09:37
ivoksholycow i know very good what emule is... i'm fighting against it :)09:37
DragoraNcan some1 help me?09:37
airbusivoks, do u know how i can get transparent xterm09:37
Nechushtanssam: nope, but it worked fine with my i586 ubuntu install. maybe its an amd64 thing?09:37
ivoksairbus get aterm09:37
josh42gnutella servers are a bad idea if you live in the sates09:37
Funraiserivoks, u're fighting against it, what do u mean?09:37
josh42*states09:37
ivoksairbus or eterm09:37
NechushtanThorrn4: make sure to switch to the plastik theme09:37
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ivoksFunraiser i'm admin in on university09:37
Thorrn4josh42, the programs stay with the Windows theme09:37
holycowivoks, in what sense? fighting your own personal emule adiction perhaps?09:38
holycowhaha!09:38
ssamdragoran, whats up09:38
holycow-_-09:38
thegreedyturtlei just don't need the intensive file-collector suite (k++, bittorrent, emule, winmx, ect ect) since i started using Open Source stuff, and that's back when i still used windows09:38
ivoksholycow great job, heh? :)09:38
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ssamnechushtan, oh your an amd 64 type person09:38
Thorrn4but the Theme manager was changed to sunshine09:38
josh42Thorrn4: Looks like you get to dig through logs :)09:38
holycowhaha, we are getting a lot of slavs in here today :)09:38
holycowwelcome aboard dudes09:38
bcki have problems with alsa (where the **** is alsaconf?)09:38
ivoksbut i managed to filter that sh** very well...09:38
Nechushtanssam: yea, at least I'm trying to be =)09:38
tanekuse esd? :P09:38
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josh42ok, I thought i Had this licked.. I have the radeon drivers in, it shows good when I do fglrxinfo, but I just loaded Darwinia, and: 1fps in 800x600 with everything set to low.. a64 3000+, radeon 9800pro09:38
ivokspolypaudio!09:39
tanekshame wine cant use esd though09:39
josh42is there a way to check if darwinia is crazy, or if I really can't do 3d in hardware?09:39
Thorrn4josh42, where are the logs? are what am I changing?09:39
ssamnechushtan, i am a powerpc person, i know what its like09:39
ivoksholycow slaves? :)09:39
bckesd? enlightement sound daemon?09:39
Nechushtanssam: hehe =)09:39
josh42Thorrn4: That I dunno :( Works for me09:39
DragoraNssam: why i have missing alsaconf? i have alsa-utils package installed..09:39
ivoksholycow this is only my part time job :)09:39
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holycowivoks, lol what is? helping in #ubunt?09:39
holycowu09:39
ivoksholycow i developted 60node cluster and complex firewall09:39
bckDragoraN, they removed it, but i dont know why.. oO09:39
Funraiserivoks, well they can still use the newsgroups anyway..09:40
ivoksholycow nope :) university admin :)09:40
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ssamdragoran, um, i dont know to much about alsa09:40
airbusok i have aterm_04.2-10_i386.deb09:40
airbuswhat do i do w/ that09:40
holycowivoks, ah cool09:40
ivoksFunraiser u think? :)09:40
ivoksi hate helping about linux09:40
andreas_Does anyone know of a Gnome program to create DVD covers?09:40
DragoraNbck: huh.. i know the module name, how to autoinsert it?09:40
ssamairbus, just use synaptic to get it09:40
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ivoksit's so hard to explain that linux isn't a windows copy/clone09:40
Funraiserivoks, AND the IRC downloads, the XDCC thing which works pretty well09:40
josh42What command do I do to see if it's hardware enabled? grep something09:40
holycowivoks, your in the wrong channel then :)09:40
holycowhehe09:41
ivoksFunraiser it's level7 filter layer09:41
ivoksholycow maybe... maybe not09:41
thegreedyturtleivocks, what cluster 'ware did you use?09:41
ivoksi'm planing to do some buissnes with ubuntu :)09:41
airbusssam how do i do that?09:41
ivoksthegreedyturtle openmosix09:41
holycowivoks, cool09:41
thegreedyturtlemmmmm openmosix09:41
thegreedyturtledelicious09:41
holycowivoks, what city are you in over there?09:41
ivoksholycow zagreb09:41
Funraiserivoks, level7 means they can't?09:42
holycowah okay, just curious, i have friends from there09:42
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ssamairbus, its in the system menu, then administration, synaptic package manager09:42
bckso, does anyone know how to configure my soundcard whithout alsaconf?09:42
ivoksFunraiser level7 filter is application layer filter09:42
josh42I want commandeer my work with that bootable mosix disc.. 100 p4 2.4s w/ 512 ram09:42
ivoksFunraiser ports, IPs are irrelevant09:42
bckok let's say i'd use esd.. what now?09:42
Absenthhas anyone here done much with mind mapping?09:42
airbusi understand that, but please realize the whole "ive been using linux for less than 24hrs thing"09:42
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andreas_Anyone that know of a decent DVD cover program?09:42
ivoksFunraiser firewall looks at protocol09:42
josh42Absenth: with personalbrain, yes09:42
Funraiserivoks, ports? they can change the ports in a NG client09:42
ssamairbus, then press reload to get latest package list09:43
jeroen_Can someone help me with Samba?09:43
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ssamairbus, then search for aterm09:43
ivoksFunraiser yep... that's why i use layer7 filtering, not port filtering09:43
thegreedyturtleivoks, have you ever worked with xen?09:43
ivoksthegreedyturtle nope09:43
Absenthivoks can you offer an example of a layer7 firewall?09:43
thegreedyturtleoh well09:43
amichaiman, i did fglrxconfig and my graphics were amazing, then all of a sudden i restart x and it crashes constantly now saying check that its properly set up whats that all about?09:43
ivoksAbsenth l7-filter.sf.net09:43
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jeroen_[samba]  When windows users connect to my box, they need to enter a password. How can I set up samba so that they don't need to enter a password?09:44
Absenthl7-filter.sf.net09:44
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ivoksAbsenth it works very very well09:44
Funraiserivoks, so what's the fight with emule then?09:44
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Absenthivoks, danke.09:44
airbusssam, i tried that. aterm isnt in the list09:44
amichaianyone?09:44
ivoksFunraiser my firewall understands edonkey2000 protocol and closes every connection that works with that protocol09:44
holycowivoks, hey i need to build a transparent firewall/packet sniffer sitting between the net and my router ... i want to see all the packets that attempt to get in to gauge against our rules... someone mentioned i should setup a layer two firewall, am i thinking the right approach here?09:45
ssamairbus, ok you need to enable the universe09:45
Funraiserivoks, that sucks09:45
Funraiserpoor students09:45
ivoksFunraiser :)09:45
jeroen_Samba question: When windows users connect to my box, they need to enter a password. How can I set up samba so that they don't need to enter a password?09:45
airbusssam, whats that? (how do i do it?)09:45
Funraiseri bet they figured out something09:45
ivoksFunraiser i can't allow them to do illegal stuff09:45
ssamairbus, go to setting -> repositories09:45
andreas_I need to create some DVD covers... Gee! Please answer me. Is there a decent program that allows graphic?09:45
ivoksFunraiser u can't figure out... there are ways, but they are managed too :)09:46
JakeXI want to mount --> jdk-1_5_0_03-linux-amd64.bin  (from java.sun.com)  how can I mount it? its a .bin file.. should I even be mounting it to install it on a ubuntu system? as when I tried apt-get the package is not available to me09:46
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Funraiserivoks, how do u block torrents?09:46
mifuneandreas_: the gimp?09:46
ivoksholycow u need bridge firewall09:46
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ivoksFunraiser that's easiest thing... couse torrent is well described as protocol09:46
ivoksAbsenth :)09:46
Absenthivoks, how does it deal with SSH based tunnels to an outside proxy?  :009:46
andreas_mifune: Difficulties regarding dimensions and the up-down text on the back09:46
ssamairbus, select the ubuntu 5.04 "hoary hedgehog" (binary)09:46
Funraiserivoks, do u block the bittorent protocol too? bittorrent can be legal?09:47
ivoksAbsenth that is the only way u can bypass this firewall09:47
Funraiserha ha09:47
ssamairbus and click edit09:47
Funraisergood09:47
tanekjeroen_: i have the same problem09:47
ivoksAbsenth but u can disallow ssh too ;)09:47
jeroen_tanek: yes?09:47
tanekyes09:47
jeroen_tanek: Does it give some strange box?09:47
holycowivoks, oh thanku09:47
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tanekyeah, username password-thingy09:47
jeroen_the one used with encrypted https://pages?09:47
jeroen_yeah, that one09:47
tanekyeah09:47
airbusah thank you ssam09:47
Funraiserivoks, it's weird, a university that has no access to newsgroups...09:48
ivoksholycow that's machine with/without IP09:48
jeroen_I use my name and pwd, doesn't work09:48
ssamairbus change the sections line to say "main restricted universe multiverse" (with out quote)09:48
jeroen_:-/09:48
tanekquite annoying...09:48
JakeX[JDK]  I want to mount --> jdk-1_5_0_03-linux-amd64.bin  (from java.sun.com)  how can I mount it? its a .bin file.. should I even be mounting it to install it on a ubuntu system? as when I tried apt-get the package is not available to me09:48
jeroen_yep09:48
ivoksholycow that filter traffic without anybody knows it egzist09:48
jeroen_And my sister with ubuntu *can* access it :S09:48
holycowthats what i want, cool :)09:48
ssamairbus unless you get it with check boxes09:48
ivoksFunraiser it's just classrooms09:48
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holycowivoks holycow i developted 60node cluster and complex firewall <-- okay now you got my attention09:48
tanekwierd :P (not that u have a sister, but that it works ;))09:48
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airbusi get check boxes (hoary)09:48
NechushtanJakeX: nope, just follow the ubuntuguide steps minus the plugin stuff and replace the i386 bin with your amd64 bin09:48
ivoksholycow ? :))09:48
Funraiserivoks, oh u mean in the dormitories they can?09:48
Funraiseraccess NG?09:49
airbushow do i make aterm transparent then?09:49
ssamairbus, ok now click reload again09:49
ivoksdict dormitories09:49
jeroen_tanek: Have you tried editing smb.conf?09:49
holycowthats cool, do  you mind me asking what distro you used for the cluster? thats rather advanced stuff for the average #ubuntu interloper :)09:49
airbusssam, i got aterm installed :0)09:49
jeroen_tanek: I've been doing that for the past hour or so09:49
ivoksFunraiser newsgroups are alowed09:49
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ssamairbus, yay :-)09:49
airbusjust to make it transparent now :-)09:49
ivoksholycow debian09:49
airbusthanks btw09:49
ivoksholycow but i'm planing to swith on ubuntu09:49
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ivoksholycow at least on clients... server will stay on debian09:50
DragoraNwhy i cant switch to virtual console while iam in X ?09:50
StrissShould Ubuntu PPC be able to read/mount Apple HFS cdroms without a problem?09:50
ssamairbus, no problem, make sure you pass on the knowledge09:50
Funraiserivoks, dict dormitories? dict?09:50
airbusalways try to09:50
airbus:-)09:50
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Andrilhello all09:50
tanekjeroen_: nah, not really, looked at it and figuerd it would take a while to get right and then i decided not to do that just yet ;)09:50
ivoksFunraiser enter that line in location bar in ur firefox09:50
airbushey Andril09:50
ssamstriss, it should, but udev or hotplug does not recognise them09:50
holycowivoks, right on09:50
jeroen_tanek: heh :)09:50
holycowi'm running debian on servers too09:50
Strissssam what does that mean?09:50
holycowand will probably switch to ubuntu on desktop09:51
holycow:)09:51
tanekjeroen_: :P09:51
holycownice09:51
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jeroen_tanek: Is the windows box winxp pro?09:51
ivoksholycow but i'll see...09:51
ivoksholycow bigest problem is that this 60 computers are diskless09:51
Andrilairbus, what's up?09:51
ivoksholycow and when i update/upgrade one, rest are too09:51
holycowivoks, yeah lots of variables depending on the job it needs to do09:51
airbusandril, not much. do u know how to make aterm transparent?09:51
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FunnyLookinHatso should I be surprised that my TNT2 32MB card seems to not handle ET?09:51
jeroen_no09:51
ssamstriss, it can read them, but it does not properly make the links to the disks, so you cant actually get to them09:51
tanekjeroen_: think so, its a friend's could be home09:51
holycowivoks, you mount from a central disk array right?09:51
ivoksholycow but that is slow...09:52
jeroen_tanek: okay..09:52
ivoksholycow yeah... imagine one server with 60 nodes, catching mount from it09:52
ssamstriss, have you installed all the hfs packages in synaptic09:52
Funraiserivoks, location bar?09:52
jeroen_tanek: someone in #ubuntu-nl said it might be a xppro issue09:52
Andrilairbus, welll your are doing better than - I don't even know what Aterm is is :)09:52
Strissssam nope but I'll try that now09:52
jeroen_tanek: :-/09:52
holycowneato, i've never had experience with that09:52
holycowcongrats :)09:52
Funraiserivoks, adress bar?09:52
ivoksholycow that server lives on the edge :)09:52
ivoksFunraiser whatever :)09:52
ssamstriss, i think you need hfsplus and hfsutils09:52
ssamstriss, but it still seems not to work for me09:52
Andrilairbus, I'm a noob and I'll learn quick - I want the package for beagle also09:53
Strissssam, I'm trying to find a certain cd that I burned off on my mac when I was running OSX, all my discs are unfortunately labeled so I'm having a heck of a time09:53
ivoksholycow so, i'm planing to put disks in all clients09:53
airbusAndril, ya i havent even been using linux for a day yet ! :-)09:53
tanekjeroen_: :( thats wierd. and even if it is, it shouldnt be that hard to fix, right?09:53
Strissi was wondering if all these cd's were coasters or if ubuntu just can't mount them09:53
ivoksholycow and have 60 separate ubuntu instalations09:53
ivoksholycow with ubuntu that's easy, there aren't so much updates as in sarge09:53
ssamstriss, have you done mounting disk with the command line09:53
ivoksholycow and i can have stable distro for 18 months09:53
Strissssam yep thats what i've been doing09:54
Strissand it seems that hfsutils has already been installed09:54
holycowwow09:54
Andrilairbus, wow have you checked the guide yet? http://ubuntuguide.org/ - it'll put you in the clear09:54
bckhow do you guys have configured your soundcard?09:54
shido6i love ubuntu09:54
holycowivoks, how are you getting to install so many linux clients then?09:54
shido6and the documentation for it is superb09:54
ssamstriss, ok and you know the /dev/hdc1 bit09:54
holycowscience/it classes?09:54
airbusAndril, ya ive looked at some of the guide09:54
ivoksholycow heh... i'll pay 2 guys to work that for me :)09:54
airbusnot all of it yet tho09:54
Absenthno-one here has played with "freemind" or anything similar?09:54
Strisshdc1? i've just been mounting by mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom09:54
ssamstriss, it seems for me that that does not get created when i put a hfs disk in09:54
jeroen_tanek: The weird thing is that I can *perfectly* see my sister's comp, and connect, while my XPpro father can't :S09:54
ivoksholycow i'll develop kickstart file and build my own installation09:54
jeroen_tanek: can see, not connect09:55
ivoksholycow it will be "put CD in and go to other comp"09:55
ivoksholycow instalaion will do all things by it self09:55
Funraiserjeroen_, well it's windows after all09:55
Strissssam i just found a labeled Mac disc that i'm sure works perfectly, so I'm about to find out for sure if this is working or not09:55
Andrilairbus, just down load it and check to see what you need09:55
ssamstriss, ok, and is that working09:55
holycowivoks, i plan on the same thing for all of our offices09:55
anto9usanyone know how I program my laptop volume keys to adjust the pcm channel rather than main volume in gnome?09:55
tanekjeroen_: hmm, strange. you haven't tried any other windows vers.?09:55
jeroen_Funraiser: yeah, but my father wants to dump his back-ups on our computers...09:55
jeroen_tanek: I don't have any other09:55
airbusAndril, i need all the linux knowledge IN THE WORLD!09:56
jeroen_tanek: not installed anyway09:56
tanekok09:56
Strissssam just a sec, about to try09:56
Andrilairbus, i have been using Ubuntu since they started the beta's but I am new to the Debian side of linux - so a little help works09:56
jeroen_tanek: Should I search my 3.11 diskettes? ;)09:56
holycowivoks, all clients will have hd's but all home dirs backed up live with rsync or some such.   the kickstarted reimage will restore latest backup files and theyre off and running09:56
holycowivoks, cool to see that happening accross the pond :)09:56
tanekbut if all you need to do is move files from the xp box, you can do that using the ubuntu box :P09:56
Andrilairbus, you and me both :)09:56
ivoksholycow http://cluster.grad.hr/index.php?page=monitor09:56
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Funraiserjeroen_, the best is to buy a small hard drive, like a 40 GiGa one , don't u think? those are cheap09:56
tanekshare xp folders -> copy paste :)09:56
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ivoksholycow use NFS, not rsync09:56
Strissssam ahh, seems to work fine09:56
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holycowivoks, not over the internet :)09:56
jeroen_Funraiser: why?09:56
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patrickhey does anyone know how I can get aMule, non source?09:57
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Andrilairbus, what os are you being born again from? OSX or XP09:57
ivoksholycow ah... over the net..09:57
jeroen_tanek: I know, but it's not, like, you know.. neat09:57
ivoksholycow check out NFSv409:57
airbusXP lol09:57
ssamstriss, ok doing better than me with my old macformat cds09:57
tanekFunraiser: where i live a 160gb costs like 1.5x a 40gb not worht buying crap then ;)09:57
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ivoksholycow i think they fixed some security issues, but i'm not sure...09:57
airbusive been on windows systems since i was 709:57
ivoksholycow my cluster is still on 2.4 :)09:57
Funraisertanek, where do u live?09:57
tanekjeroen_: of course not, but as someone said, after all: its windows09:57
taneksweden09:57
Andrilpatrick, i got it from the user guide http://ubuntuguide.org/09:57
jeroen_airbus: I've been since 3-409:57
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airbusso this is a real steep change of pace09:57
holycowivoks, cool09:57
jeroen_tanek: Like my dad cares ;)09:58
sbcmannew to linux airbus?09:58
patrickyes but i tried and it couldnt find the package :(09:58
airbusyep, today09:58
jeroen_tanek: Like I'm in the mood to copy his backup data09:58
Funraisertanek, how piratebay.org country...09:58
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airbusgot a dual boot system last night around 1am CST09:58
tanekjeroen_: :P true09:58
airbuswell09:58
airbusthis morning09:58
airbus1am cst09:58
ssamairbus, are you having fun?09:58
sbcmancool...I have had a linux box for about 8 months now...09:58
airbusLOTS of fun lol09:58
Andrilairbus, I left OS X when I started Ubuntu - then I went back when I couldn't get any help09:58
tanekFunraiser: yeah, and to be honest i saw fredrik neij the owner of piratebay.org last weekend :P09:58
jeroen_tanek: Nor am I in the mood to clean out his messed up xp box+fix his DVD-writer+..+..+..09:58
ivoksAndril OSX sucks09:59
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sbcmanI still have a dual boot..few things I still cant get to work on my linux09:59
airbusMACs in general are not too cool09:59
ivoksAndril OSX is very bad realisation of a very good idea09:59
Funraisertanek, nice did u talk to him?09:59
Strissack, mac bashing, so long09:59
ssammacs are very cool09:59
jeroen_sbcman, what then?09:59
patrickhmm....09:59
tanekjeroen_: been there ;)09:59
patrickyes macs are cool :D09:59
jeroen_tanek: haha09:59
ivokslol09:59
sbcmanwhat do you mean jeroen?09:59
Andrilairbus, I went back on my ibook for Tiger because they sent it to me - and I recently put it back to Ubuntu09:59
airbusonly think i like about macs is some of the software taht is available only to them09:59
ivoksguess u didn't WORK on then, did u? :)09:59
jeroen_what is it that's not working with ubuntu then?10:00
Absenthivoks, I don't know if I agree with the statement OSX sucks.10:00
ssami tried linux, when i could not afford osx for my imac10:00
airbusAndril, ubuntu is pretty sweet im likin' it10:00
tanekFunraiser: yeah, he gave me and my friends free tickets to RixHack, a LAN that he is networkadmin on ;)10:00
ivoksu can't have two disks on one IDE channel... yes, it will for, for a while :)10:00
airbusanyone here familiar w/ slackware?10:00
Andrilivoks, you can say that again - The Badger beast the Tiger's ass anyday10:00
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ssamand got adicted, so when i got my powerbook i had to go back to linux10:00
tanekvery nice guy :D10:00
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Absenthivoks, between fink, and x-darwin there's very little you can't do, that you could with any other *nix distro.10:00
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Funraisertanek, oh geez nice, i wonder all long this site will be open10:00
ivoksAbsenth Andril did u ever tried to connect OSX to linux CUPS server?10:00
sbcmanactually I dont thnk its a ubuntu problem...the only thing I cannot do is connect with my webcam to MSN...I use this to stay in contact with some of my family10:00
holycowAbsenth, try removing quartz10:00
holycow>_>10:01
sbcmanotherwise (I use Kubuntu) everything else I have been able to do10:01
Andrilairbus, yes it is - I am stuck with this distro till the end10:01
tanekFunraiser: there is nothing that says it'll close down anytime soon:P10:01
ivoksAbsenth Andril don't u found stoopid that all network protocols are browsable in same window?10:01
ssambut mac os x is sooooo pretty10:01
holycowAbsenth, ever check out the file structure of osx? my godd what a horrible setup10:01
airbusi wish linux had an mp3 player like foobar20010:01
jeroen_sbcman, go to amsn.sf.net and tell the developers to hurry up with implementing webcam support ;)10:01
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stazzholycow: what exactly is wrong with that?10:01
ivoksAbsenth Andril did u check ur hard disk after installing OSX? how many partitions are there?10:01
sbcmanhehe I will...there are a couple promising projects out there10:01
jambonhello all10:01
Andrilairbus, RedHat & Mandrake let me down just intime for Ubunt to iron out the kinks and with the help I get here - there is no other OS10:01
Absenthholycow, file structure in forsaken core is any better?10:01
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ssaman zeroconf works so well in os x10:02
ivoksAbsenth Andril and what about that mount command? it's striped more than pamela anderson10:02
tanekswedish law says its OK to tell people where to get copyrighted stuff, as long as u dont upload it. and the tracker itself doesnt upload anything but torrents :D10:02
jambonhas anyone else had problems with mp3 files and wmv 9 files?10:02
sbcmanJeroen..did you install ubuntu with KDE or gnome?10:02
Absenthholycow, ivoks, You'10:02
ivoksAbsenth Andril and don't get me start about other UNIX tools :) and permissons, OMG!! :)10:02
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Funraisertanek, sure but it's still borderline10:02
Andrilivoks, yes it's actually a fresh harddrive from apple10:02
stazzjambon: you bet, you might want to take a look at the wiki. they are restricted formats.10:02
airbusAndril, ya... RedHat and Mandrake got rly stupid (my roomate used linux for a long time, i watched him get mad at both of those a lot)10:02
tanekjambon: check the wiki on www.ubuntulinux.org10:02
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ivoksAndril how many? 7? 8 partitions? :)10:02
jambonmp3 restricted10:02
jambon???10:02
jambonhow the hell would that work?10:03
stazzjambon: yes. take a look at the wiki.10:03
jeroen_sbcman, with gnome10:03
ShadowRagemandrake can piss you off10:03
Absenthholycow, ivoks, You're listing a bunch of problems it DOES have.  I won't argue with that.  On the other hand.  untill someone can give me working airport extreme drivers for ubuntu on ppc,  OSX it is.10:03
sbcmanairbus...I have used several distros..learned a little bit more with each one...finally everything came together with kubuntu10:03
Funraisertanek, it's the last good site around for torrents10:03
stazzAndril: what exactly is there wrong with the apple partition scheme?10:03
thegreedyturtleHey, did y'all see this on /. ? : Azureus Decentralized Bittorrent10:03
thegreedyturtleBobPaul writes "While the eXeem project to decentralize Bittorrent remains in open beta, the Azureus Java Bittorrent project has recently released a major update that, among other things offers 'a distributed, decentralised database that can be used to track decentralised torrents. This permits both "trackerless" torrents and the maintenance of swarms where the tracker has become unavailable or where the torrent was removed f10:03
thegreedyturtlerom the tracker.' It doesn't contain the search functionality of eXeem, but it's also not a beta product and is licensed under the GPL. Could this and compatible clients be the replacement to SuprNova and Lokitorrents, or does the lack of search negate its effectiveness?"10:03
ivoksAndril ah, u won't see all partitions in OSX... start linux installation :)10:03
Andrilair, bus I am learning so one day the Op's will ask me to join10:03
tanekFunraiser: nah :P not the last one ;)10:03
airbushow is kubuntu different from ubuntu sbcman?10:03
jeroen_Kubuntu uses KDE as DE10:03
sbcmanjust KDE instead of gnome...10:03
Andrilivoks, Apple made sauce of my drive and Hoary now resides10:03
sbcmandifferent DE enviroment10:04
ShadowRagewhat's nice about ubuntu is that it goes with freedesktop standards10:04
ShadowRagethat's why gnome is preferred over KDE for most people10:04
tanekFunraiser: and there's always isohunt.com and filelist.org and torrentreactor.net :P10:04
Nechushtandoes acpi matter for amd64?10:04
airbussbcman, cant i install KDE if i wanted to?10:04
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jeroen_airbus, you can10:04
airbusis that easy?10:04
jeroen_airbus, look for kubuntu-desktop package10:04
jambonlooking on wiki.....not finding much10:04
Funraisertanek, true10:04
Absenthholycow, ivoks, the power management, and sleep functions on the ibook are second to none I've seen.  close the notebook, it sleeps within a second or two.  Open the screen, and you're back to a working desktop again within a second or two.  Leave it closed from 99% batter, and 5 days later it's at 90% battery.  That's what made me not buy an X86 notebook.10:04
Andrilstazz, they play partiotion games - and the user looses in the end10:04
sbcmanairbus..absolutely...10:04
jeroen_I'm not sure if it's easy.....10:04
jeroen_just install KDE10:04
ivokswell..10:05
tanekFunraiser:  to bad exeem wasn't as good as it promised :(10:05
ivokstime to see how this match will end :)10:05
ivoksbye guys10:05
ari_hi i need help with my xmms it doestn play mp3?10:05
jeroen_you can then choose (at login time) to start KDE10:05
stazzAndril: could you explain that a bit more carefully, I don't catch the metaphore10:05
tanekbye ivoks10:05
jeroen_?? mp310:05
[uhelp] mp3: To setup mp3 playback, see http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:05
Absenthlater ivoks10:05
sbcmanthere are several DE and window managers out there...my suggestion is to try out some them...you are not limited to justone10:05
icebalmAndril: how exactly does the user lose?10:05
Andrilstazz, don't get me wrong I have been a Mac guy for awhile all they way through to Tiger - but the true OS champ is Ubuntu10:05
Funraisertanek, yeah but i got to discover Newsgroups which is even better since u don't upload anything10:05
jeroen_ari_, look at what [uhelp]  says10:05
jeroen_??mp310:05
ShadowRageshock: up: command not found10:05
ShadowRage 13:05:45 up 15:27,  5 users,  load average: 0.56, 0.71, 0.8510:05
jeroen_?? mp310:05
[uhelp] Hey jeroen_, i've already told #ubuntu about "mp3"... no need to repeat (i think)10:05
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Absenthandril, on a ppc desktop, or notebook?10:06
icebalmAndril: I'm using ubuntu now and you're wrong, OS X is much better10:06
airbuscan i get KDE in synaptic package manager?10:06
jeroen_airbus, yes10:06
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Funraisertanek, so to me it wasn't a bad thing when loki closed, i switched to NGs10:06
jeroen_airbus, just look for kde.....10:06
Andrilabsenth, my ibook g4 & my G5 desktop10:06
AbsenthAndril and with ubuntu, how do you connect to wireless networks?10:06
Funraisertanek, and XDCC works fine too10:06
stazzAndril: yes, but that's very far from explaining it. my experience with macs is quite limited, I know they are *very* different from PC's with, for example, the partitioning, but it didn't bother me at all. I just wanted to know what you think is wrong about it10:06
tanekFunraiser: ok10:06
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Funraisertanek, without any upload either10:07
holycowAbsenth, backo, oh yes i can't disagree with you at all on that10:07
sbcmanairbus...you can also check out ubuntuguide and ubuntu forums for some help if you need it10:07
ari_jeroen, where is that, whre i look for  unhelp10:07
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holycowAbsenth, hard to beat a platform where the manufacturer actually writes their own drivers10:07
tanekFunraiser: but you have to upload for the greater good :P10:07
airbusah awesome10:07
dell500anyone here installed Steam??10:07
sbcmanubuntu they both have some great how-tos for those new to linux10:07
Andrilicebalm, just speaking from my experience - comparing the Betas of both OS's10:07
airbussynaptic package manager rox10:07
Absenthholycow, and that's a bad thing?10:07
Funraisertanek, u mean on NGs?10:07
tanekFunraiser: in general10:07
holycowi suspect apple has no real plans to play nice with the open source/free software community tho, and you will never see drivers for the airport on ubuntu without significant work10:07
icebalmAndril: betas? both have atleast a couple releases out10:07
holycowAbsenth, not at all :) just sayin10:07
airbusis it common for users to refer to "synaptic package manager" as "spm"?10:08
airbusim just tryin to get the LINGO down here10:08
sbcmanapt-get along with synaptic is by far the easiest package manager I have come across10:08
tanekFunnyLookinHat: someone has to upload or noone can download, and the most effective way is to have a system where every downloader has to share10:08
stazzholycow: well, you won't see any commercial software for linux/ppc either, so don't expect any miracles :)10:08
jeroen_ari_ [uhelp]  is a bot. I will say ?? mp3 and then it will tell you were to look10:08
jeroen_?? mp310:08
[uhelp] mp3: To setup mp3 playback, see http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:08
airbusis apt-get unique to ubuntu10:08
holycowstazz, actually theres quite a bit already, but in specialized fields10:08
Nechushtanapt-get is debian10:08
stazzairbus: no, it's inherited from debian10:09
Absenthholycow, I bought an ibook as my first experiance with mac.  If I could go back and do it again, I wouldn't have bought a notebook at all, but actually waited untill now.10:09
airbuscool10:09
sbcmannope...debian based distros and others use it10:09
Funraisertanek, did u notice that on NGs there are those par files to fix the files, and not on any other way of sharing files, I wonder if this has to do with a way for the uploader to not get caught during the upload10:09
stazzholycow: could you point something out?10:09
holycowstazz, and i've sent notices to all software vendors that we expect all of their products on linux soon ... although i am not holding my breath either :)10:09
Andrilabsenth, I used Netgear USB wireless cards - for my iBook I haven't really touched any wireless attempts with 6 Ubuntu PC's through out the houses10:09
tanekFunraiser: never used 'em :P10:09
jeroen_hey, who was it that needed webcam support?10:09
airbusAndril, what netgear router are you using?10:09
stazzholycow: the day photoshop gets ported you can come tell me I was wrong :P10:09
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sbcmanAndrill...I have my wireless card working but I had to use ndiswrapper10:09
jeroen_I just read the aMSN next release TODO10:09
Funraisertanek, oh, u should really check it out10:10
Funraiserreally10:10
sbcmanbut I have a linksys wmp1110:10
NechushtanFunraiser: what do you mean by not any other way to share the files?10:10
tanekFunraiser: maybe I should...10:10
jeroen_-Interface for webcam (GUI stuff)10:10
jeroen_-Support sending webcam on linux10:10
jeroen_-Support sending webcam to people on MSN 6-7 (actually it's just for people on aMSN) (Youness)10:10
Absenthholycow, it wasn't possible to get >4hr battery life, on a <5lb notebook, for less then $1600 when I picked up the 12" G4.  Now I'd pick up a generic notebook with a pentium-M ~ 1.6ghz and run ubuntu on it.10:10
jeroen_so aMSN team is working on it10:10
sbcmanI am not hardwired at all into my router any more...10:10
FunraiserNechushtan, there are PAR files only in NGs (right?)10:10
holycowAbsenth, i'm doing nothing like that10:10
tanekactually i hadly know what it is :P10:10
Andrilicebalm, I started Ubuntu in the Warty betas and Mac & Win has always had me on the beta list back since '9310:10
AbsenthAndril, do you know if it's possible to run two USB PrismII cards at the same time on ubuntu?10:10
FunraiserNechushtan, at least i only say them there10:11
tanekjeroen_: aMSN is webcam-ready? :S10:11
Funraisersaw10:11
holycowAbsenth, im building my self an arm 500mhz cpu pda, with a clamshell10:11
jeroen_tanek: no10:11
jeroen_tanek: It's in the TODO for next release10:11
jeroen_-Interface for webcam (GUI stuff)10:11
jeroen_-Support sending webcam on linux10:11
jeroen_-Support sending webcam to people on MSN 6-7 (actually it's just for people on aMSN) (Youness)10:11
Nechushtanwell, anyone can use par files, they just have the most use in NG's10:11
tanekah, :P any ETA?10:11
sbcmanabsenth...I have not done it...but I cannot imagine it would be a huge problem...10:11
icebalmAndril: that's nice, how about looking at them from their latest releases?10:11
holycowAbsenth, will be ugly as hell but it will fit in a largish pocket and have all the power i need in my palm, laptops i find cumbersome, and something to worry about being stolen10:11
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jeroen_tanek: usually aMSN releases are very frequent10:11
jeroen_tanek: but it's been long since 0.94 (latest version)10:12
airbuswhat other desktop environments are there? (Besides gnome and kde)10:12
ari_jeroen_: ok i opened what [unhelp]  said10:12
Andrilairbus,  Netgear RangeMax  Wireless Router Model WPN82410:12
jeroen_http://amsn.sourceforge.net10:12
jeroen_ari_, did it help you? :)10:12
airbusANDRIL OMG10:12
FunraiserNechushtan, i understand that, but see, I have never seen par files with torrents or edonkey or XDCC...10:12
airbusis that thing good, i read about it10:12
Absenthsbcman, maybe this week I'll give ubuntu on the ibook a shot.  I've got a pair of PrismII usb nics.  Some of what I use the notebook for requires a pair.10:12
FunraiserNechushtan, only in NGs10:12
Andrilabsenth, not sure but your question compels me to try it though10:12
tanekjeroen_: ok, so probably ill get my long-wanted webcam support soon? :D10:12
icebalmAndril: unfortunately linux, as a whole, any distribution, cannot even come close to OS X in terms of usability and software availability. That being said, ubuntu I believe is the best linux distribution.10:12
sbcmanabsenth....it would be fun to try anyway10:13
NechushtanFunraiser: oh, because p2p has error correction(at lesat torrents do and i think edonkey too) so par's aren't needed10:13
jeroen_tanek: not sure. Donate ice-cream to the aMSN team and maybe you'll be lucky :)10:13
shinuis there a command to check which ports are active? ()in use10:13
shinu(in use)*10:13
stazzicebalm: the thing that really makes OSX great (compared to linux) is that you can be sure drag&drop works ;)10:13
tanekjeroen_: might just as well try that :D10:13
FunraiserNechushtan, do u know a bit about IP spoofing?10:13
Andrilicebal, I have and do daily - I take my Ubuntu disc's to work and drastically - the users are changing10:13
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ari_jeroen_, the problem is that it played mp3 yesterday, and yesterday i just install in my machine10:13
tanekhave anyone gotten gaim-vv to work with msn webcams?10:13
jeroen_ari_: that's weird10:14
NechushtanFunraiser: not a whole lot10:14
icebalmstazz: hah, among other things, but yes, you are right10:14
Marble2How can I use wget to get a page which is restricted with a form login. I.e how can I get wget to login at a page and then get another page10:14
mehoI need help installing my Lexmark x83 printer10:14
jeroen_ari_: no idea how?10:14
FunraiserNechushtan, i think IP spoofing could be a way to upload a file in a NG (using PAR files) and being caught10:14
ari_jeroen, libdvdcss for my totem player10:14
Nechushtananyone here have an nforce4 board that can help me get my amd64 seeing my ide harddrives?10:14
stazzicebalm: well, I really think it's the only *nix* that you can be sure stuff like that works.10:14
FunraiserNechushtan, not being caught10:14
mehoCan anyone help me install my Lexmark x83 printer10:14
NechushtanFunraiser: yea thats how its usuaully done10:14
Andrilicebalm, true as it may be Linux and Ubuntu has scored a K.O. this year and with te Badger coming in months - they'll shake it up again10:14
jeroen_ari_, libdvdcss2 is for DVDs, it shouldn't interfere with, let's say, XMMS10:14
icebalmstazz: there is something to be said for having a unified desktop environment10:14
FunraiserNechushtan, i knew it10:15
AndrilNo one said it would be easy10:15
stazzicebalm: yes well, I personally hate these DE wars :P10:15
ari_jeroen, today i try to play my mp3 list in xmms and it doesn't worked so i reinstall from repository and installed other plugins10:15
tanekmy rythmbox played mp3 out of the box i think :P10:15
jeroen_hmmm...10:15
Nechushtanari_: does xmms give an error?10:15
jeroen_can you try it with another player?10:15
ari_jeroen_, yes i think the same as you but it was the only thing i did in my machine yesterday10:16
jeroen_Or select *complete removal* in synaptic10:16
mehocan anyone help me10:16
FunraiserNechushtan, so that means NGs is the best way to get a *file*10:16
jeroen_then install again10:16
jeroen_this deletes the config files (they might be messed up..)10:16
icebalmAndril: Unfortunately I think you have the reality distortion field set on reverse polarity10:16
sbcmanmeho are you running gnome or kde?10:16
Funraisertanek, did u follow this?10:16
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NechushtanFunraiser: more or less. i use it heavily, but lately the good stuff has been torrent only10:16
AndrilSorry, I didn't want to start OS Armagedon - I just like Ubuntu10:16
stazzAndril: I really agree with you that ubuntu is doing a great job. perharps the best of the current distros. but it still really doesn't satisfy my needs :)10:17
FunraiserNechushtan, well i mean if u don't want your IP to be visible to all10:17
Funraiserlike in azureus10:17
sbcmanmeho you fight do a google for "lesmark x83 linux driver" and see if that gets you anywhere10:17
Andrilicebalm, all's good in the shell - I get paid well to make Mac & Win to work for users daily - but when I come home Ubuntu does my work10:17
NechushtanFunraiser: yea, if your news providor doesn't keep logs10:17
airbusill brb10:17
tanekFunraiser: follow what :$10:18
AbsenthAndril, I mean to start OS Armagedon....  OpenBSD Rules :010:18
ari_jeroen_:yes it guives one when i open it from a terminal it said  libmikmod.so.2: it can be opened the files objects sahred. doent exist the file or directory10:18
Funraisertanek, why downloading using NGs is really neat10:18
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Andrilstazz, true again - but you are here just like me to make Ubuntu work out your needs10:18
AbsenthAndril I'm kidding about Armagedon....  Each has its place.  That's for sure.10:18
ShadowRageit was perfect before10:18
Nechushtanc'mon someone here has to be running on an nforce4 board!10:19
stazzAndril: nah, I'm really here just to see what people usually complain about.10:19
Nechushtanhaha10:19
stazzAndril: so I know if I can recommend ubuntu to my less-computer-experienced relatives10:19
tanekFunraiser: not really, ill go back and read :P10:19
Funraisertanek, see, there is only one uploader, and he uses IP spoofing to keep anonymous, you just have to download10:19
Andrilstazz, word... give it to the uppers too10:19
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Absenthstazz, linspire = the most uncomputer savy friendly os I've ever seen.10:19
Nechushtanstazz: I installed it for my mom and sister. they haven't had any problems yet10:19
icebalmAndril: and that's great, but claiming ubuntu is some how better than OS X is unfortunately folly at this point in the game10:19
anto9usubuntu is for everyone10:20
ari_Nachushtan:yes it guives one when i open it from a terminal it said  libmikmod.so.2: it can be opened the files objects sahred. doent exist the file or directory10:20
stazzAbsenth: you can go wrong with linspire.10:20
AndrilUbuntu will be the new spead10:20
stazzAbsenth: the thing with roots.10:20
ShadowRageubuntu is OK.10:20
Nechushtanari_: is this when xmms loads or when you try and play an mp3?10:20
alqainehi all10:20
ShadowRageI see areas it could do a lot better10:20
karljpanyone know how to set the keyboard map back to what the xorg.conf says?10:20
Andrilcan you image going to Sonic or Jack In The Box for a burger - then girl asking "would you like Ubuntu with that?"10:20
ShadowRagebetter package support, etc10:20
NechushtanShadowRage: agreed10:20
ShadowRagefaster boot times, etc10:20
stazzNechushtan: but in the same time, it should actually be able to provide more than windows :)10:21
Absenthstazz, roots?10:21
ari_<Nechushtan>: it is when i run it from a terminal10:21
ShadowRagesady, you have to abandon the LSB 2.0 standards to achieve that10:21
stazzAbsenth: everything run as root, for default10:21
ShadowRageLSB 2.0 is better for server linux distros10:21
karljpwhat's LSB2.0?10:21
Andrilicebalm, Win & Mac make me a living - true10:21
tanekFunraiser: sounds great, and where can i find these uploaders? :P10:21
Nechushtanstazz: more? in what way? I think it already does. its all about what you need and the paradigm you look at the OS with10:21
Absenthstazz, this is true I suppose.10:21
ShadowRagecreating a linux standard10:21
mehoplease someone can anyone give me a hand in installing the damn lexmark x83 printer10:21
Absenthkarljp Linux Standards Base.10:21
ShadowRageeg, everyone has to be on the same level10:21
karljpgot a link?10:21
Nechushtanari_: try installing that library and see if it helps. i don't think that has anything to do with mp3 but...10:22
Andrilicebalm, True Indeed10:22
fsapoShadowRage, the think that linux still lacks for desktop users.. is some kind of "installation app" link windows.. they click on the stuff and just go.. next... next... next.. thats what a desktop "linux newbie" wants10:22
stazzAbsenth: the CEO of linspire actulla says there's no good arguments against running everything as root, but there really is. it's kind of taking away all the security on *potentially* briging in all the problems of current windowses10:22
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sbcmanmeho you fight do a google for "lesmark x83 linux driver" and see if that gets you anywhere10:22
Nechushtanstazz: its like when people run in windows as admin10:22
ari_<Nechushtan>: so it can be at the repositories?10:22
ShadowRageI personally dislike standards that expect complete conformity between distributions, I can understand compatibility, but it stifles innovation10:22
Funraisertanek, check http://www.newzbin.com10:22
ShadowRageto create something that may make linux better10:22
STK_ToNhO_Absenth: Mac OS is very easy10:22
Andrilicebalm, what brings you to Ubuntu?10:22
Absenthstazz, Believe me....  I understand the reasons NOT to run everything as root.10:22
Funraisertanek, then enter the file you are looking for10:22
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corvixhoi10:23
tanekFunraiser: will do :P10:23
icebalmAndril: I run ubuntu on this pc10:23
ShadowRagefsapo: autopackage.org10:23
Andrilicebalm, cool just asking10:23
Nechushtanari_: libmikmod210:23
Absenthstazz, my internet servers are all locked down with everything running in root jail for exactly that reason.10:23
jambondoes anyone have bmp installed and working10:23
corvixanyone knows why gnome keeps loosing the gatewaysetting in networking after switching profile? (hoary)10:23
fsapoShadowRage, i know it.. but tell how many apps are using it?10:23
karljpabsenth, that's a different prupose10:23
Absenthstazz, I guess I didn't realize linspire was running all as root.10:23
Andrilicebalm, it has it's kinks but it requires some time to iron them out10:23
ShadowRagefsapo: if I had a chance to mess with ubuntu and make an experimental ubuntu distro, I'd use apple's launchd and that. plus the deb package thing (for base system install and upgrades)10:23
karljpthe linspire guy raises valid points10:23
ShadowRagefsapo: not many atm, though gaim is one that is10:24
Absenthkarljp diffrent, but related none the less.10:24
stazzNechushtan: yeah well, I think the end user should be able to surf the web without worrying about spyware/viruses, and not having a firewall installation the first priority. ubuntu really does that. but that situation is somewhat reacable with windows, so linux distros should actually have something media-sexy in them.10:24
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karljprelated definitely, but at the same time,10:24
icebalmAndril: ubuntu, at this point, seems like the best all-around linux distribution10:24
Andrilicebalm, I have always been a Underdog Fan Boy10:24
stazzAbsenth: yeah. that's like the worst design choise ever.10:24
ShadowRageI have several good ideas for a linux system10:24
karljp99% of desktop linux installations are single user.10:24
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jeroen_jambon, beep-media-player?10:24
fsapoShadowRage, i showed ubuntu for a friend that never used linux and the first thing he said was10:24
ShadowRageone that the user should never have to see a text console10:24
karljpperhaps not run daily as root, though I know people who do.10:24
Andrilicebalm, ahhh we agree on that10:24
dead^^could anyone guide me with this. i got my Ubuntu just few days  ago and i have a problem with copying files.10:24
Andrilcheers - cheers - cheers10:25
g14icebalm: All around for the desktop, not for a server10:25
stazzAbsenth: That's pretty much the reason why ubuntu (currently!) is the top choise for the end-user :)10:25
josh42What's the /leanest/ way to run gnome? which theme, how to turn off animations, etc10:25
karljpjust don't10:25
g14josh42: Use the Metabox theme10:25
icebalmg14: agreed10:25
ari_<Nechushtan>: i have to reset my computer once it has finished to be donloades10:25
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ari_ <Nechushtan>:downloaded???10:25
corvixanyone knows why gnome keeps loosing the gatewaysetting in networking after switching profile? (hoary)10:25
ShadowRagefsapo: ?10:25
velioushi10:26
Sauron21guys....what is the best way of mounting CUE/BIN files to a cdrom??10:26
jeroen_ari_: normally not, just for installing software10:26
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corvixconvert the cue bin to iso10:26
josh42g14; Perfect, thank you - gnomelook.org?10:26
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tanekFunraiser: whats up with the premium credit? :S10:26
Absenthstazz, karljp, currently the only linux servers I'm running are RedHat 8.0 :/ they are operating as LTSP servers,  but rather then offer an X desktop, they launch a Citrix ICA sesson to a win2K citrix server.  we have about 250 users running on linux, that don't even know it.10:26
ari_ <Nechushtan>: so it has been installed, so i can see, in amoment i tell you10:26
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dracSauron21: Use program called 'bchunk' to make it an .iso.10:26
Funraisertanek, i don't know it's free anywat10:26
josh42Sauron21; trying to replace daemon tools/alcohol? :)10:26
Absenthstazz, karljp, all the rest of my *nix servers are running OpenBSD.  With a few Ubuntu desktops that I use personally.10:26
fsapokarljp, jeroen_ calm down i m searching the thread to show you :P10:27
Funraisertanek, anyway10:27
mackidmakeisofs...10:27
Sauron21what about cdemu ?10:27
jeroen_fsapo, great :)10:27
g14josh42: type this in a terminal. metacity-theme-viewer Metabox10:27
Funraisertanek, so type the file like a movie or a game10:27
karljpabsenth: what does that have to do with running as root?10:27
stazzAbsenth: well, linux still isn't the OS for the end-user. I keep recommending OSX to everyone I can.10:27
tanekFunraiser: i wanted a program, and it says i cant view the files without premium credits10:27
mackidTHANK YOU10:27
mehoI have tried to search for drivers on google for my lexmark printer please if anyone xcan help please do10:27
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fsapoShadowRage, karljp, jeroen_, http://forum.hardmob.uol.com.br/showthread.php?s=&postid=4569848#post456984810:27
Sauron21is there a daemon tools for linux?10:27
shinuanyone know how i can check if my port forwarding was correctly set up?10:27
veliousi just got Ubuntu and this kicks ass, and my sound drivers still work! :D10:28
stazzmeho: did you try the gnome-cups-manager ?10:28
g14josh42: Metabox comes with gnome as one of the default themes10:28
karljpdoes your app work/not work shinu?10:28
Funraisertanek, did u type that in search?10:28
shinu(its for bittorrent)10:28
Andrilanyone have the Beagle package?10:28
larsrohdindo i need both fglrx and xorg-driver-fglrx?10:28
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shinukarljp: it does but just wanna check10:28
Absenthkarljp, nothing actually....  I might be alittle Attention deficit at the moment.  Something you said about single user boxen is what triggered that though.10:28
fsapoShadowRage, karljp, jeroen_, Translating.. he said "Isnt there some kind of "EXE" programs? top install software in linux is a pain the ass10:28
tanekFunraiser: yeah10:28
karljpfsapo: care to translate for is?10:28
karljptakk :)10:28
fsapokarljp, already did10:28
ShadowRagesysvinit worked for UNIX in the 1980's. but we're now in 2005, and trying to create a worthy desktop system and no one has made a proper attempt to fix the init issue10:28
Funraisertanek, well i just tried mac os tiger for example and it works10:29
karljpyeah, /me was too slow on the typing :(10:29
ShadowRagelaunchd from apple is a good start10:29
fsapokarljp, that was the only point that he "Disliked" in linux10:29
Echylowhat is a good virtual machine emulator for ubuntu? jamvm ?10:29
alqainemulla ois semmosta asiaa ku haluaisin vet teit kaikki suoraa bebaan10:29
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stazzthere's nothing wrong with installing software on linux, as long as the package management system doesn't set any limits :)10:29
tanekFunraiser: i tried vmware, and it doesnt work... btw, do i need a 3d party app?10:29
ari_ <Nechushtan>: the error doesn't appers more , but still withowt playing, when i put play it freeze and doesn't respond10:29
Sauron21I will try to use bchunk....10:29
ShadowRageautopackage is also good because it can do a local user install10:29
ShadowRageeg, just to that user's account10:29
Funraisertanek, hold on10:29
karljpand you can find the package management system10:29
larsrohdindo i need both fglrx and xorg-driver-fglrx?10:29
josh42g14; ahh, the border theme10:29
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ShadowRageif I can get ahold of the launchd source code, I'd be happy10:29
stazzShadowRage: I thought launchd was open source10:30
glyphhello all10:30
fsapokarljp, and if you look at the topic title he said that ubuntu worked perfectly with his A64 cpu and he liked it10:30
karljplearned by habit or not, there's a lot to be said for "download installer from my software vendor, save somewhere, double click"10:30
ShadowRageyes10:30
Funraisertanek, here it works, ok i see what u mean10:30
ShadowRagestazz: I didnt say it wasnt10:30
glyphI need to build a more recent version of cifs.ko for ubuntu but I cannot figure out what magic the kernel uses to decide whether modules are compatible or not10:30
ShadowRagestazz: I just cant find the source package10:30
Funraisertanek, when u type vmware there are line that tells u where u can find it right?10:30
fsapokarljp, but after using it he said that was difficult to install programs.. cause of endeless dependencies10:30
stazzShadowRage: ah, I see.10:30
glyphI'm not sure exactly what question to ask - i have a replacement for the kernel's fs/cifs directory, and I want to build it10:30
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holycowShadowRage, there are various init projects out there10:30
ShadowRageseen them10:31
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Absenthalright I should get back to work.10:31
glyphso are there any kernel-package experts around?  I need modules from -restricted and I would *REALLY* prefer not to build a whole new kernel just for this one file10:31
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ShadowRagemost suck or are on the same level with sysvinit10:31
josh42karljp; you think dl>click is good? do: applications > system tools > add/remove10:31
nomed^hi10:31
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ShadowRageor are overly complicated10:31
ari_ <Nechushtan>: ????10:31
glyphespecially since I already tried that and it was incompatible with my existing kernel...10:31
Funraisertanek, yes u need a third app, i was about to explain that part10:31
shinuanyone any ideas about the port forwarding check?10:31
tanekFunraiser: hmm, there's a whole lot of lines telling me lots of stuff, but nothing of where i can find it10:31
ShadowRageor do things differently to say "HEY I'M DIFFERENT"10:31
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Funraisertanek, now in Ubuntu click applications/run application and type pan10:32
nomed^do you know what it's used for ubuntu live cd?10:32
jeroen_Does anyone know where to find info on the calendar?10:32
nomed^gnoppix morphix or a fresh live cd?10:32
jeroen_I still don't see ubuntu-calendar-may10:32
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holycowShadowRage, heh, you find nothing you like?10:32
tanekFunraiser: don't have "pan"10:32
Funraisertanek, the synaptic pan10:32
Funraiserthen synaptic pan10:32
Nechushtanari_: what?10:33
Funraisertanek, i mean then go to synaptic and install pan10:33
ari_ <Nechushtan>: the error doesn't appers more , but still withowt playing, when i put play it freeze and doesn't respond10:33
ShadowRageholycow: launchd on the other hand (what OSX tiger uses) looks good, uses XML configuration for booting apps, takes care of init, cron, and others10:33
tanekgot it :P10:33
Funraisertanek, installed,10:33
Funraiser?10:33
Nechushtanari_: ok, you can get mp3's to play in other players just not xmms?10:34
ShadowRagepeople say that makes a single point of failure10:34
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mdzNechushtan: do you have any ide-* modules in /etc/modules?10:34
tanekFunraiser: almost there10:34
ShadowRagefunny thing is, linux kernel itself is a single point of failure, glibc is a single point of failure, / is a single point of failure, etc10:34
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Nechushtanmdz: ah, nope10:34
ShadowRagerm -rf / will ruin the system, rm -rf /etc will ruin 90% of the system10:35
Sauron21bchunk worked great...!10:35
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mdzNechushtan: what do you have in /etc/modules?10:35
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ShadowRageshit, all a virus make rwould have to do is taint the libc.so library and it could destroy the system10:35
tanekFunraiser: done10:35
Funraisertanek, so now in Ubuntu applications/runapplications type pan10:35
Nechushtanmdz: lp, mousedev, psmous...10:35
ShadowRageXML is faster and self-validating10:36
ShadowRagexml > bash scripts10:36
Nechushtanmdz: I added the ide lines I have on my laptop (ide-cd, ide-disk, ide-generic10:36
mdzNechushtan: you should not have any ide-* in /etc/modules10:36
ari_ <Nechushtan>: Could you sujest me one, in order i can dowload from synaptic, a cool one10:36
tanekFunraiser: yeah, what news-server? :S10:36
fsapoShadowRage, this autopackage seens interesting.. :)10:36
Nechushtanari_: xmms-mad should be for mp3's10:36
Funraisertanek, ok this is your newsgraber, not the best one, but it will be fine for today, you'll get my point10:36
jambondoes mplayer have "issues" in ubuntu at the beginning, or am I just not treating her right10:37
tanekFunraiser: ok10:37
Nechushtanmdz: I shouldn't have them?10:37
Funraisertanek, on you ISP contract, you have your newsserver written somewhere10:37
Nechushtanmdz: well, adding them worked =)10:37
Nechushtanari_: what xmms- packages do you have installed?10:37
tanekFunraiser: aw, w8 ill go get it10:37
mdzNechushtan: if you're booting from SCSI, hotplug should load all of the necessary ide drivers10:38
tanekdone10:38
Funraisertanek, it's something like smtp.yourisp.yourcountry10:38
mdzNechushtan: of course, if you had _some_ of them in /etc/modules and not all, that would break it10:38
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Funraisertanek, mine is smtp.free.fr10:38
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tanekFunraiser: yeah, i found it. and mailserver is my isp mail server?10:39
mdzwhich is why I asked what you had there (was the list you provided complete?)10:39
ShadowRageone weakness about sysvinit10:39
Funraisertanek, yes10:39
ShadowRageit singletasks10:39
tanekFunraiser: incomming or outgoing?10:39
ShadowRagewhen you boot up, services boot up one after another10:39
ShadowRageunrelated services10:39
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Nechushtanmdz: its not, so I added those three ide to my /etc/module and it seemed to work. rebooting now j-i-c10:39
ShadowRageones that dont rely on others10:39
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Funraisertanek, errr it asks that?10:39
ricshi10:40
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ricsanyone from brazil here?10:40
tanekFunraiser: nah, but i've got one for each from my isp :P used the incomming10:40
NechushtanShadowRage: they're working on that though, I heard some folks have gotten it to boot multiple services simultaneously10:40
STK_ToNhO_rics: _o/10:40
Funraisertanek, yeah should work10:40
jeroen_bye all10:40
ShadowRagehttp://jw.dyndns.org/initng/ <--- does that10:40
jambonk, mplayer crashes upon playing anything, vlc doesn't give me any sound, and totem simply never supports whatever codec the video file is in. any ideas?10:40
mdzNechushtan: please show me the complete list of modules you have in /etc/modules10:41
Echylowhat is a good virtual pc emulator for ubuntu?10:41
Nechushtanjambon: mplayer crashes? weird, what error?10:41
NechushtanEchylo: WINE10:41
jambonit just freezes10:41
Nechushtanmdz: PM'ing10:41
EchyloNechushtan, that's not a pc emulator10:41
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jambonexample playing mpeg file......10:41
Echylowine is not even an emulator10:41
anto9usjambon, try setting mplayer to a different sound device10:41
NechushtanEchylo: oh, like dosbox?10:42
tanekFunraiser: now what? :P10:42
Nechushtanjambon: try -nosound with mplayer10:42
ari_<Nechushtan>: i have installed:xmms, fmradio,goom,kjofol, kjofol-skins,mad10:42
Funraisertanek, now if u go back to the website, which is like a website for that program u have a newsgroup adress, looks like alt.binaries.warez.linux for example10:42
ShadowRageanyone know how I can change the version of wine? (eg, make it say it's win 98 or win NT?)10:42
Marble2how do I move a .bin to .deb10:42
Nechushtanari install xmms-mad10:42
ProfQkihi! maybe somebody can help me: a just installed hoary on an acer travelmate 2200 and everything work fine except the touchpad10:42
Funraisertanek, find the newsgroup for your program10:42
dracMarble2: What .bin is that?10:42
Funraisertanek, on the website10:42
tanekok10:43
ProfQkii can't fix it... any idea?10:43
mdzNechushtan: what version of hotplug do you have installed?10:43
jambonsignal interrupted my moduel 15....a02init or something like that when i force quit mplayer10:43
dell500how do you build a debian package out of a tgz file?10:43
ShadowRageon another thought, launchd is also probably fast because macosx uses a microkernel10:43
Nechushtanari_: actually xmms-mpg12310:43
ShadowRagethus, everything is loaded on start10:43
Marble2drac: javaq10:43
Marble2*java10:43
Funraisertanek, it it says a.b.w.linux a.b.w.linux that fine, it means alt.binaries.warez.linux10:43
dracMarble2: With make-jpkg, it's in java-package.10:43
Nechushtanmdz: u get the PM?10:44
tanekok, but i haven'nt got that grout10:44
jambonand it always gives me this New Face Failed: maybe the font path is wrong....../mplayer/subfont10:44
mdzNechushtan: yes10:44
Marble2greg@Greg:~ $ make-jpkg10:44
Marble2bash: make-jpkg: command not found10:44
ari_<Nechushtan>: that one i shoul install or what obout  xmms-mpg12310:44
mdzNechushtan: what version of hotplug do you have installed?10:44
Funraisertanek, let's start over the website thing10:44
Nechushtanari_: xmms-mpg12310:44
dead^^could anyone guide me with this. i got my Ubuntu just few days ago and i have a problem with copying files.10:44
ari_Nechushtan: what about that one10:44
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dracMarble2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java10:44
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Funraisertanek, go back to the main page of that website10:44
tanekFunraiser: ok, sorry for beeing stupid :P10:44
Nechushtanari_: install it10:44
jambonk10:45
jambonweird10:45
Nechushtanmdz: how do I tell what hotplug I have?10:45
ProfQkidead: what problem you have?10:45
jambonmplayer now works with eSound10:45
ari_Nechushtan: it doesnt apper at the repository10:45
Funraisertanek, not at all my spelling sucks so u might be confused10:45
jambonis something inherently wrong with the alsa plugin?10:45
ari_Nechushtan: so i look for it in otehr place?10:45
Funraisertanek, u're on the main page?10:45
ProfQkino idea with acer touchpad?10:45
Nechushtanari_: did u add the repositories from ubuntuguide?10:45
tanekFunraiser: no it doesn't, its me beeing stupid. anyway; yes im at the main page10:46
mdzNechushtan: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Version}\n' hotplug10:46
Funraisertanek, on search type vmware then click search but don't click anything else10:46
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tanekdone10:47
dead^^ProfQki: i had files on NTFS and i tried to mount it and i think i got it, but when i try to open the files Ubuntu doesn't recognize them. so i copied them one by one so far10:47
josh42speaking of sound; how do I full 5.1 output enabled?10:47
Nechushtanmdz: 0.0.20040329-16ubuntu1710:47
ari_Nechushtan: i have this ones :http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/, http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/,http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/10:47
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dead^^ProfQki: is there any easier option?10:47
ari_<Nechushtan>: with the different distribution and sections10:47
Funraiserbelow categorie, there are red crosses, and below it's written a.b.w.linux, do u see it?10:47
Nechushtanari_: go to www.ubuntuguide.org10:48
mehoI still need help with the printer problem10:48
tanekFunraiser: done10:48
mdzNechushtan: with that version, you should not need to add anything to /etc/modules, and if it doesn't work, it could be a bug10:48
ProfQkidead: what dou you mean one by one?10:48
nomed^is there anyone that can past on the web a dpkg -l of the live cd ?10:48
Nechushtanmdz: ok, well, adding them works too10:48
ari_Nechushtan:ok10:48
Nechushtanari_: give me a minute and I'll be able to step you through this, now that I got my prob solved.10:49
Nechushtanmdz: thanks, even though its not "right" it works =)10:49
Funraisertanek, ok now click on  VMware 5 Workstation just on the right of that a.b.w.linux10:49
tanekdone10:49
dead^^ProfQki: i cannot open the directory and i just copy them elsewhere and chmod to them one by one so i can open them10:50
Funraisertanek, now there are many line, there is "group" alt.binaries.warez.linux10:50
tanekyeah, found it10:50
ari_Nechushtan: ok10:50
ari_Nechushtan: i wait you10:50
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Funraisertanek, ok that's the group we are looking for10:50
tanekFunraiser: ok, and i dont have that one in pan10:50
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Funraisernot copy the name of the group  so copyalt.binaries.warez.linux10:51
fsapoi m tried to run msginit but i get this: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: gnu/gettext/GetURL10:51
Funraisertanek, and paste it pan10:51
fsapowhat could be the problem?10:51
mdzNechushtan: adding them lets you fix your problem, but it doesn't help anyone else10:51
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mdzNechushtan: I would appreciate it if you would instead help us to find the root cause and fix it, so that it works for everyone without having to make manual changes10:51
tanekFunraiser: its not there10:51
Funraisertanek,now copy the name of the group  so copyalt.binaries.warez.linux10:51
Funraisertanek, and paste it in pan10:52
Nechushtanmdz: I'm all for helping, but I don't know how to fix the problem. so...10:52
holycowabs10:52
mdzNechushtan: please go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/, file a bug using Package: hotplug, and explain the process that we just went through10:52
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tanekFunraiser: done that, there is no such group as alt.binaries.warez.linux in pan10:52
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holycowanyone ever setup atutomatically encrypted home directories on ubuntu by any chance? wondering what it takes to set something like that up10:53
dead^^ProfQki: can i try to explain it in private?10:53
Nechushtanari_: ok, do a "dpkg-query -W xmms*"10:53
fendermaidenSalut10:53
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fendermaidenj'ai un bon ptit probleme de carte graphique10:53
fendermaidenj'ai une nvidia gforce fx520010:54
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Funraisertanek, u have to choose in "all groups"10:54
Nechushtanmdz: will do10:54
mdzNechushtan: thanks10:54
tanekFunraiser: yeah, done that, and its not there10:54
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Funraisertanek, well i'm doing it it works10:54
Nechushtanmdz: any idea if the lilo installer problem was solved in cvs?10:55
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octobercrimsun, you here?10:55
tanekFunraiser: wierd... i've got no alt.binaries at all :(10:55
mdzNechushtan: I don't know what you mean10:55
jambonis there anyway to resize video in mplayer? and does anyone have a working vlc?10:55
ari_<Nechushtan: in a terminal i put that command:(sorry if i am a little slowly, i am new in this)10:55
jambonbesides double size and fullscreen10:55
octoberbob2, ?10:55
Nechushtanmdz: n/m then10:55
october:(10:56
Nechushtanari_: yes, or in synaptic do a search for xmms and tell me which ones are installed10:56
Funraisertanek, that's weird10:56
tanekFunraiser: can it be my isp that's rejected these groups?10:56
octoberI've tried noacpi and nolacpi on my grub line and Ubuntu is still locking up on me.10:56
tanekis there any other newsserver i can use?10:56
dracjambon: Change video output to 'xv'.10:56
octoberI had no problems at all on the same box with WindowsXP.10:56
Funraisertanek, try this one alt.binaries.cores10:56
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jambonin mplayer or vlc?10:56
dracjambon: mplayer.10:56
ari_Nechushtan: i did it in a terminal10:56
Nechushtanoctober: whats the ish?10:57
raydoggHas anyone has any issues with using Skype in ubuntu ?10:57
tanekFunraiser: dont have any alt.binaries groups :/10:57
octoberNechushtan, box locks up on me.10:57
Nechushtanari_: which xmms packages are installed?10:57
ari_Nechushtan: i put the comand that you told me10:57
raydoggwhen i try to call someone it hangs on "connecting"10:57
jambondrac: mkay, any ideas on the silly font face message?10:57
|Kabuto|jambon means bacon in Turkish :)10:57
Nechushtanoctober: immediately, doing something specific, randomly?10:57
raydoggalso, when i try to load up vmware, it fails to open my sound device ( but i have audio )10:57
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dracjambon: install mplayer-fonts package.10:57
jambonok10:57
octoberNechushtan, it hasn't happened while I was doing anything today.10:57
raydoggI'm not sure exactly why the audio isn't working... it says the device is busy...10:57
Funraisertanek, don't know if it could be your ISP or not10:57
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Nechushtanari_: what packages does it show as being installed?10:58
Nechushtanoctober: so its seemingly random?10:58
edsuomraydogg: Check permissions of /dev/dsp10:58
Funraisertanek, are u sure u selected "all groups"10:58
jambonKabuto: and it meas ham in french...what a coincidence10:58
octoberNechushtan, it appears so.10:58
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jazzkahi!10:58
raydoggedsuom, i tried running skype and vmware as root...10:58
ari_Nechushtan: xmms, then fmradio,goom ...10:58
Nechushtanoctober: what cpu/chipset?10:58
raydoggcuz we thought that might have been the issue10:58
Nechushtanari_: ahh, ok10:58
edsuomraydogg: vmware and kde sound coexisting fine here.10:58
jazzkaanyone that is able to use a gdesklet to see if there is new gmail mail?10:58
ari_Nechushtan:kjofol, kjofol-skins...10:59
raydoggyou're running kubuntu?10:59
edsuomYes10:59
tanekFunraiser: yep10:59
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edsuomWell, ubuntu with kde packages installed10:59
raydoggdo you have onboard intel sound?10:59
octoberNechushtan, it's pIV 2.4G10:59
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octoberit's an AX4B (I think) intel motherboard10:59
octoberlet me triple check that.10:59
edsuomonboard, K7S41 mb.10:59
ari_Nechushtan: and the last one mad, but i did "dpkg-query -W xmms*" in a terminal10:59
Nechushtanari_: here's what i have installed and I can play mp3's: xmms-modplug xmms-mp410:59
edsuomac97 device10:59
Funraiserwhen u choose "all groups" do u have a list of groups at least?10:59
raydoggsame here11:00
raydoggac9711:00
octoberNechushtan, I have run memtest86+ on it.  and it didn't show any errors11:00
edsuomDo you have *any* sound?11:00
raydoggwhat do the perms on /dev/dsp look like for you?11:00
raydoggyea11:00
raydoggi do11:00
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Funraisertanek, or there are no groups at all?11:00
ari_Nechushtan: so i look for that in the synaptic???11:00
edsuomraydogg: crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-05-03 11:57 /dev/dsp11:00
Nechushtanari_: my xmms says it uses libmpg123.so as an input plugin for mp3's. what does yours say?11:00
Nechushtanari_: yes11:00
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raydoggthats exactly what mine is edsuom11:00
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octoberNechushtan, award ax45-533 R1.1111:01
edsuomHmmm.11:01
Nechushtanoctober: i don't remember the P4's having APIC problems...11:01
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raydoggdo you have esd running ?11:01
tanekFunraiser: lots of groups, and some alt.xxx.xxx.xxx but no alt.binaries11:01
Nechushtanoctober: did you look in your system logs to see if anything showed up?11:01
octoberNechushtan, hmmm what logs exactly should I check?11:01
edsuomraydogg: No. I'm using 2.6 kernel (standard ubuntu hoary) and alsa, not oss.11:01
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sig /var/log/messages11:02
sigtail -f /var/log/messages11:02
Funraisertanek, doesn't sound good11:02
Nechushtanoctober: dmesg first, then kern.log, acpid, syslog11:02
Nechushtanhopefully one of them will give an idea11:02
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edsuomraydogg: VMware 4.511:02
raydoggI'm running 5.011:02
Funraisertanek, i've been wasting your time then11:02
tanekFunraiser: nope, not at all... are there no other newsservers i could use?11:02
sig5.0 what?11:02
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Nechushtantanek: not without paying11:03
ari_Nechushtan:  libmpg123.so and  xmms-mp4 doesnt appers in my synaptic11:03
tanekFunraiser: i've been wasting your time really, thanks anyway11:03
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tanekNechushtan: :( ok too bad11:03
edsuomraydogg: It would be weird if 4.5 worked for you! You certainly are licensed for it...11:03
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edsuomsig: VMware Workstation.11:03
Nechushtanari_: in the ubuntuguide they show how to use the marillat sources, get those setup and try updating xmms11:03
AnuaukkoHmm is there ANY way to write to NTFS? i really need to remove a folder but i dont have windows installed11:03
Nechushtantanek: yea, newsgroups have been "dieing" lately11:04
Funraisertanek, or by finding an ISP that allows connections to binaries NGs11:04
NechushtanAnuaukko: yes, but its dangerous11:04
Funraisertanek, that sucks, sorry man11:04
octoberNechushtan, occy.net/tmp/occy-dmesg11:04
ari_<Nechushtan>:so i went to the page ://www.ubuntuguide.org and then i did wget -c http://ubuntuguide.org/ubuntu5.04.tar.gz11:04
ari_tar zxvf ubuntu5.04.tar.gz11:04
sigAnuaukko: http://ubuntuguide.org shows how11:04
AnuaukkoNechushtan: Heh, i dont mind, not my hd11:04
Andrilanone install Clam AV?11:05
josh42if you know anyone on telus, you can use thier NG login from anywhere11:05
NechushtanAnuaukko: then just mount it rw. it "works"11:05
Nechushtanoctober: logs are in : /var/log11:05
AnuaukkoNechushtan: doesnt :P11:05
i3dmasterany command to convert pic from one format to another? say jpg to png...11:05
FunraiserAndril, i did11:05
Nechushtanari_: no, just look at the html page, what you downloaded was the guide. but you can view it online too11:05
i3dmasterany command to convert pic from one format to another? say jpg to png...11:05
octoberNechushtan, http://occy.net/tmp/kern.log11:06
NechushtanAnuaukko: really? thats how I had done it back in the day11:06
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AnuaukkoNechushtan: in ntfs?11:06
Andrilfunraiser, what happened?11:06
tanekFunraiser: yeah, sure does.... but thanks anyway, ill probably switch isp soon anhow ;) getting 10/10 cable instead of 0.5/0.5 adsl ;)11:06
FunraiserAndril, well it worked11:06
Nechushtanoctober: forbidden11:06
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jambonis there a way to change mplayer skins without needing to move the skin file as root?11:06
Anuaukkosig: no it doesnt show for ntfs11:06
NechushtanAnuaukko: yea, when I was still learning linux11:06
Andrilfunraiser, how do you update the version?11:06
NechushtanAnuaukko: i know its possible to mount NTFS in rw, try searching google, I'm sure you can find the command line needed11:07
FunraiserAndril, oh, i haven't yet, there is a command line i think11:07
ari_<Nechushtan>: i should add this to my repositories???deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main11:07
ari_deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main11:07
ari_deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main11:07
Andrilfunrasiser, ok thanks11:08
raydoggedsuom, I got it working... a process called esd was blocking it11:08
raydoggkilled it and it works fine11:08
raydogg:-)11:08
octoberNechushtan, sorry, reload11:08
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Nechushtanari_: yea, as directed11:09
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Nechushtanoctober: are you running X when it freezes?11:09
octoberNechushtan, yah11:09
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octoberNechushtan, heh, I rarely do anything in console.11:10
ari_<Nechushtan>: oly the ones i told you or all the list taht are in the page11:10
Nechushtanoctober: have you tried ssh'ing in while its frozen?11:10
octoberyup.11:10
octoberno love11:10
AnuaukkoNechushtan: is possible, BUT with http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/11:10
octobercan't even turn numlock on or off11:10
Nechushtanari_: I add all the ones the guide lists, so sure why not =)11:10
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octoberit's a full-on kiss your arse goodbye, type of lock-ups.11:10
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NechushtanAnuaukko: hrm, I wonder if the ntfs driver folks removed the rw abilities...11:11
karljpthey disabled them yes.11:11
karljpthey were sick of people moaning about data loss11:11
nekohayoI'm looking for an audio editor that allows something like noise removal in a graphical way.. soemthing like a frequency cutter. Does that exist under linux?11:11
josh42that's what happens when things break11:11
mdzglyph: the only reliable way to build modules for a kernel that has already been built is to use the -headers package for that kernel11:11
octoberI've been running Ubuntu on my laptop for eons and with no problems.  Hoary too.11:11
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josh42nekahayo - there is one; audacity11:12
octoberSo that's what has me sorta wondering why this desktop has this problem.11:12
octoberYet, when I stuck windows on it... to see if it'd do the same thing.  It didn't lock up at all11:12
octobernot once on 2 or 3 months I had it and was using it with Windows on it.11:12
nekohayojosh42, did you try it? I did not see anything like that which would allow me to cut precisely a frequency range11:12
NechushtanAnuaukko: apparently no go =(11:12
october(had it so I could check my website designs in IE6 heh)11:12
october*sigh*11:13
octoberthis is a suck.11:13
Nechushtanoctober: well this sucks =)11:13
octoberNechushtan, yah.... I might have to install Fedora 4(shiver) on it just to test to see if it might be something compiled into the Ubuntu kernel.11:13
Nechushtanoctober: I'm gunna say its a driver bug, just which, and why...11:13
josh42nekohayo: I used it before, and I remember there being sliders and ways to select things.. I was pretty sure frequency was an option for selecting11:13
octoberas much as I hate using FC compared to the U11:13
nekohayoI'll take another look11:14
Nechushtanoctober: thats an idea. I'd say try Kanotix first though11:14
octoberKanotix ?11:14
octoberhaven't heard of that one.11:14
Nechushtanari_: how goes it11:14
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dell500anyone know how to clear the Location bar in konquer??11:14
Nechushtanoctober: kanotix is another debian based live-cd distro11:14
octoberNechushtan, sweet11:14
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octoberMight even just try Debian Unstable.11:14
october:/11:14
octobermeh11:15
Nechushtanoctober: yea, try that, don't even bother installing it, see if it has the same ish. you can even have it use your existing /home/11:15
nekohayodell500, isn't there a button just for that?11:15
nekohayoin the toolbar or something11:15
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octoberNechushtan, well, it probably will take some time for it to happen.11:15
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octoberAnd I don't feel like running off of CD to do my work.11:15
octoberheh11:15
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octoberNechushtan, tx for your time.  I'll check back and see if anything turns up.  (I'm normally on here as occy btw)11:15
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Fator_DeeHelp! Misbehaving Gnome-panel located http://www.edu.haapavesi.fi/%7Emikko.niemela/Screenshot.png How can I get it back in its original shape (like the lower panel), I can't grab it because the shortcuts are on the way :-\11:16
octoberbbl gang.11:16
tinghi i use ubuntu for the first time11:16
dell500hmm that's wierd11:16
Nechushtanoctober: if kanotix runs fine off the cd, try the hd-install and see what happens11:16
tvihhm, how exactly can I get iso8859 to be default instead of utf8?11:16
Nechushtanoctober: though one of the log files prbly has a hint as to the problem if you read through them11:16
dell500i right click and 'Clear History', and it works fine, you go into config for konqueror and clear it, and it doesn't do anything11:16
Fator_Deeand yes, my background is just black11:16
dell500maybe a restart for konqueror would do, oh well11:16
ari_Nechushtan: i did it which ones you told me i have to loof for in the synaptic11:17
fsapohum... looking at that autopackage stuff made me think about a project but i dunno if it is a good idea O.o11:17
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FunraiserAndril, to update clamav one has to use freshclam11:17
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ari_Nechushtan: i did it which ones you told me i have to loof for in the synaptic11:19
Nechushtanari_: try xmms-mp4 and xmms-modplug11:20
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ari_???11:21
FunraiserAndril, just type sudo freshclam11:21
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calaverahi. i tried to install hoary via debootstrap (the standard kernel does not work on my computer) and did everything according to the knoppix install howto in the wiki (which i admit is for warty). but i get a "cannot find initrd device11:21
Nechushtanari_: you said your xmms shows it using libmpg123 right?11:21
calaveraand later on it hangs with "Setting up ICE socket directory11:22
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ari_???. nop11:23
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QMario             -Questions:               -Questions:11:23
calaveraany idea what might cause that step to fail in particular?11:23
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leitaoplease, i cant play a .avi movie. i installed w32codecs and gst-plugins. i get the following message: ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid11:23
QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:23
leitaowhy?11:23
Nechushtanari_: hrm. try reinstalling xmms cause mine shows it as being installed11:24
ari_<Nechushtan>: i have already xmms-modplug the only that i dont have is  xmms-mp411:24
shido6suicide or superior sniper skills, QMario11:24
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Nechushtanari_: try the mp4 one. other than that, its got to be in the standard xmms package cause thats all I have and it plays mp3's fine11:24
ari_<Nechushtan>: and now i will try to download xmms-mp411:25
elmayaleitao, install vlc11:25
Funraiserall right good night all (good day for those west of me) il Andrill comes back please tell him that to update clamAV he has to type: sudo freshclam11:25
leitaoelmaya : vlc? i'll see what is vlc.11:25
elmayavlc media player11:25
elmayaplays everything11:25
ari_Nechushtan: i reinstall before be in the chanel, the xmms11:25
leitaoelmaya : i am installing it. :-)  thx11:26
Nechushtanafter adding the new repositories?11:26
Funraiserelmaya, yeah except .bin files and vlc screwed my system too11:26
ari_Nechushtan: now is downloading the mp411:26
elmayahehe11:26
sigsleep doesn't work on my laptop anymore11:26
sigit did in warty11:26
QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:26
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sigI created a shortcut key to "sleep" but it doesn't work11:27
rymanare there any good browser for ubuntu beside Firefox ? My firefox keep crashing randomly11:27
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josh42how do I set smbumount suid root?11:27
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QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:28
glyphmdz: I would love to do that, but the linux-cifs-client package unfortunately provides no makefile, no debian package, and no instructions for how to build outside of the kernel tree11:28
calaverajosh42: sudo chmod g+s smbumount11:28
QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:29
stuNNedso with ubuntu i don't really need to install a firewall system?11:29
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hybrid_gothhello11:29
calaveraanyone know what could cause a "Cannot find initrd device"11:29
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stuNNedand if i should which frontend to iptables do you guys recommend?11:29
ari_Nechushtan: now is being installed mp4, and also it said this: unpackage libfaad2-0_2.0.0-0.5_i386.deb,11:29
dataw0lf|wstuNNed: vi and bash.11:29
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josh42calavera; that went through w/no error, but i still get a message that says it needs to be suid11:30
Nechushtanari_: yea, thats just for mp4's...11:30
stuNNeddataw0lf|w: not the answer i was looking for but ok :)11:30
Nechushtanari_: type "locate libmpg123"11:30
QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:30
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ari_<Nechushtan: in a terminal right?11:30
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QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:30
dataw0lf|wstuNNed: it'll take you longer, but by the time you're finished, you'll know what's going on.11:30
Nechushtanari_: yea11:31
ari_Nechushtan: ok i did it11:31
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QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:31
QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:31
QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:31
QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:31
ari_Nechushtan: i found it11:31
QMario How do you log out of SWAT? How do you log out of SWAT? How do you log out of SWAT? How do you log out of SWAT?11:31
calaverajosh42: you could try "sudo chmod o+s smbumount" but keep in mind that that is not a particulary secure setup11:31
stuNNeddataw0lf|w: some simple rules should suffice, no?11:31
QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:31
QMario How do you log out of SWAT?11:31
dataw0lf|wstuNNed: depends on what you're trying to do.11:31
ari_Nechushtan:warning: locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old11:31
ari_/usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmpg123.so11:31
Nechushtanari_: so it is there... then I don't know why you can play mp3's11:31
ari_ok let me try to play it11:31
Nechushtanari_: updatedb will update your locate database11:32
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josh42QMario; dont be an ass - yes it's frustrating; if noone knows, you get no answer11:32
stazzQMario: by flooding a channel11:32
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NechushtanQMario: quit? exit?...11:32
stuNNeddataw0lf|w: i see no init scripts to start with ...11:32
ari_Nechushtan: i update my system 3 days ago11:32
josh42QMario: killall -9 1?11:32
ari_Nechushtan:you mean that with  updatedb?11:32
dataw0lf|wSWAT is a browser based Samba config.11:32
dataw0lf|w+tool11:32
dataw0lf|wExit11:33
dataw0lf|wOut11:33
dataw0lf|wThe11:33
glyphcalavera: is that message something you're getting at boot?11:33
dataw0lf|wBrowser11:33
Nechushtanupdatedb will update the locate database11:33
calaveraglyph: yes.11:33
thotypous111:33
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calaveraglyph: i just debootstrapped a hoary onto my computer, but theres something missing apparently.11:33
glyphcalavera: IIRC, it means that you built an initrd kernel package but you didn't install the initrd tools properly11:34
ari_Nechushtan: so i update it 3 days ago11:34
ari_ Nechushtan it still withow working11:34
dataw0lf|wstuNNed: google for an iptables tutorial11:34
glyphcalavera: Hmm, I don't recognize that failure in that situation11:34
calaveraglyph: well i installed the 2.6.11-1 kernel-image and initrd since 2.6.10 does not work on my computer11:34
ari_ Nechushtan: i should reset it , and see what happen11:34
josh42calavera; Hrm, looks like that app just wants to complain - I'll play with it, thank you11:35
ShadowRageGdk-ERROR **: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)11:35
ShadowRage  serial 77 error_code 11 request_code 141 minor_code 1911:35
ShadowRageXlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x2e91)!11:35
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ShadowRagewhenever I play dvd's11:35
Nechushtanari_: hrmmm.... type "dpkg-query -W xmms" and what version does it show?11:35
calaveraglyph: i noticed that the grub autoconfiguration magic is gone. had to roll my own grub.conf11:35
dataw0lf|wstuNNed: all it is is putting a bunch of iptables commands into a bash script adding it appropriately to your runlevel.11:35
Nechushtanari_: can you play other audio files via xmms?11:35
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calaveraglyph: i suspect this is in some way connected with udev. since it also complains a lot later on while "Setting up LVM Volume Groups" that it "could not append to parent for md/*"... this is weird11:37
ari_Nechushtan: i did dpkg-query -W xmms, and yes i put a cd music, and it played, then i puit a cd with mp3 and it doesnt played and it frizzed11:37
shinubye ppl11:37
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ari_ Nechushtan: and the mp3 in my hdisck also it doesnt play11:38
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dell500whenever i run something lately, i get this error right after running the program, ie synaptic, 'Fontconfig error: "~/.fonts.conf", line 1: no element found'  I ran the command 'touch ~/.fonts/config' or something, i think this has to do with it11:39
thr1ceno, touching it won't give you an error11:40
thr1cethat should just change the timestamp11:40
ari_Nechushtan: i did what you told me but it still without working , i can try to restart the system, and then see what happen, what do you think?11:40
Nechushtanari_: what output plugin is xmms using?11:41
Nechushtanari_: rebooting is not needed in linux11:41
thr1ceari_, unless you changed kernels or added hardware, restarting won't do anything11:41
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glyphcalavera: Wow, I thought I was confused about my problem ;)11:42
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ari_<Nechushtan>: how can i know which output plugin is xmms using, where i have to look for?11:43
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ari_<thr1ce>: thanks11:43
Nechushtanin "Preferences>Audio I/O Plugins" it says "Output Plugin"11:43
thr1cein preferences11:43
ari_<Nechushtan: ok11:44
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ari_<Nechushtan: let me see11:44
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dell500thr1ce, well why does it have that error there every time i run some command in term??11:44
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Nechushtananyone remember how to clear the screen after logout?11:44
thr1ceclear?11:45
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Nechushtanthr1ce: when you logout it doesn't clear the screen before showing the next login prompt, so you can see the previous activities. i forgot where to change this behaviour...11:45
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ShadowRagerhythmbox keeps segfaulting11:46
ShadowRagesadfasdf11:46
Tobi1051dd11:46
Tobi1051hello?11:46
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Tobi1051?11:47
ari_<Nechushtan: i went to deskopt preference>audio> and there is nothing about plugins11:47
thr1ceTobi1051, what?11:47
Nechushtanari_: within xmms11:47
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thr1ceari_, he told you EXACTLY where to look; don't be retarded11:47
confreyhi everybody11:48
Nechushtanthr1ce: calm down dude11:48
edsuomWhere in sudoers does it specify that only the install-created account can sudo? I'm not seeing it!?!?11:48
Tobi1051hi confrey11:48
ShadowRagewhy does rhythmbox keep segfaulting?11:48
confreywhy don't phpgroupware and egroupware work?11:48
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Nechushtanedsuom: it should list which users have what abilities. at a minimum root should be there11:48
edsuomYeah, root is there, but not my user account. And I only need *my* password to sudo.11:49
thr1cexmms-options-preferences-AUDIO I/O Plugin11:49
thr1cethen output plugin11:49
NechushtanShadowRage: cause it hates you =) does it segfault right away or while doing something? have you tried running it from a console to see what errors it gives?11:49
ari_<Nechushtan: ok11:49
Nechushtanedsuom: so your user account can sudo but its not in the sudoer file?11:49
ShadowRageNechushtan: yes11:50
ShadowRageNechushtan: load a library of songs11:50
ShadowRage*CRASH*11:50
ShadowRageand just says segfault11:50
edsuomNechustan: Yes, because sodoers says "root ALL=(ALL)"11:50
ShadowRageNechushtan: also, I cant play dvd's I get an insufficient resources error11:50
ari_<Nechushtan>: i have 411:50
ari_<Nechushtan>: oss 1.2.1011:51
Nechushtanari_: is that the sound system you have installed?11:51
ari_<Nechushtan>:alsa1.2.1011:51
NechushtanShadowRage: dvd playback with rythmbox or?11:51
Nechushtanari_: change the plugin to alsa and try it11:51
ari_<Nechushtan> e sound 1.2.1011:51
ShadowRageNechushtan: totem and vlc11:51
ari_<Nechushtan>ok11:51
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ShadowRageNechushtan: it seems to be a GTK issue11:52
Nechushtanedsuom: thats really weird, i dunno about that, sorry11:52
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ari_<Nechushtan>: it failed11:52
NechushtanShadowRage: try and dist-update11:52
ari_<Nechushtan>: it works with esound11:52
Nechushtanerr dist-uprgade11:52
ari_ plug in11:52
Nechushtanari_: then use that =)11:53
ShadowRageNechushtan: but I just did11:53
ShadowRageNechushtan: I dont think I can do it again11:53
ShadowRage;)11:53
Nechushtanari_: figured it might have been an output issue...11:53
ari_<Nechushtan>: thak you very much and thanks for your patiens11:53
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ari_<Nechushtan>:you know, i am new in this11:54
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NechushtanShadowRage: yea, if u just did it... i dunno. could be your right, seems like a gtk issue. dunno what though. have you tried mplayer?11:54
ari_<Nechushtan>: but i don't know how it changed, as i todl you yesterday it works11:54
Nechushtanari_: we all were at one time, just passing on the knowledge11:54
dell500w00t, one step closer to CSS :)11:55
Nechushtanari_: yea, i dunno either. but esound obviously has it figured out, so let it do its job and things should be ok now =)11:55
GarathorIs it possible to make gnome-terminal use iso8859-15?11:55
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ari_<Nechushtan>: also i want to ask you about what about the patetns problem11:56
Nechushtannow to figure out why azureus won't run...11:56
Nechushtanpatetns?11:56
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