[12:00] <WeirdAl> sudo.
[12:00] <WeirdAl> aha
[12:00] <WeirdAl> Nothing happened.
[12:00] <WeirdAl> Where's a log?
[12:00] <Nafallo> patrik, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:00] <nickrud> WeirdAl, first, does /etc/init.d/gdm exist?
[12:01] <WeirdAl> yes
[12:01] <patrik> Nafallo, thx verry mucj
[12:01] <patrik> much
[12:01] <nickrud> WeirdAl, startx works
[12:01] <WeirdAl> yes
[12:01] <IIIEars> Hello - another curious newbie question (grin) Can i tell how long it has been since the last reboot? i forgot - lol
[12:01] <Nafallo> patrik, no problem
[12:01] <Nafallo> IIIEars, uptime
[12:01] <IIIEars> Thank You.
[12:01] <_chavo> WeirdAl, make sure gdm isn't already running.
[12:01] <IIIEars> really? - Oops - heh
[12:02] <WeirdAl> Well Ubuntu booted up in console.
[12:02] <dcraven> IIIEars: uptime
[12:02] <dcraven> err
[12:02] <WeirdAl> I'm trying to get it to boot up in GDM again.
[12:02] <dataw0lf|w> WeirdAl: type startx, and tell us any errors you get.
[12:02] <Nafallo> dcraven, :-)
[12:02] <WeirdAl> OK, brea with me
[12:02] <WeirdAl> bear*
[12:02] <dcraven> Nafallo: I'm a little slow on the draw.
[12:02] <Chipparn> i got a problem with my mplayer.. fullscreen doesnt work. if i choose fullscreen the window gets fullscreen but the picture in the window is small. any ideas?
[12:02] <comforteagle> what mailserver is customary to install on ubuntu/
[12:02] <WeirdAl> damn, went off screen.
[12:02] <comforteagle> ?
[12:02] <dataw0lf|w> Postfix comforteagle
[12:02] <WeirdAl> I'll do it again with >
[12:02] <Nafallo> Chipparn, -vo xv
[12:03] <comforteagle> thanks!
[12:03] <dataw0lf|w> (default mail server)
[12:03] <comforteagle> sorry, left for dinner
[12:03] <WeirdAl> :-\ I can't redirect the output of startx, and I can't see the errors.
[12:04] <WeirdAl> ooh
[12:04] <dataw0lf|w> WeirdAl: not working? try a ps aux | grep X and a ps aux | grep gdm
[12:04] <p0m> Why didn't I name myself after my favourite language :)
[12:04] <Nafallo> WeirdAl, /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[12:04] <nickrud> WeirdAl, /var/log/Xorg.0.log has a copy, i believe
[12:04] <Chipparn> Nafallo: hmm ok.. what do you mean?. is there a option in mplayer?
[12:04] <WeirdAl> Ah, well :-)
[12:04] <Nafallo> WeirdAl, oops, what nickrud said ;-)
[12:05] <dataw0lf|w> WeirdAl: what do those two commands I told you return?
[12:05] <Nafallo> Chipparn, ahh. you're running gmplayer probably... change your video out from x11 to xv :-).
[12:06] <WeirdAl> One for each, dataw0lf.
[12:07] <Chipparn> Nafallo: ahh thanks mate :)
[12:07] <WeirdAl> Both grep
[12:07] <dataw0lf|w> WeirdAl: alright, /query me your errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:07] <WeirdAl> There are no lines with EE in.
[12:07] <Nafallo> Chipparn, np :-)
[12:07] <dataw0lf|w> err, do a tail -15 /var/log/Xorg.0.log and paste em to me.
[12:07] <WeirdAl> Pasting will be hard...
[12:07] <WeirdAl> Let me FTP them across
[12:08] <dataw0lf|w> no ftping.
[12:08] <dataw0lf|w> pastebin them.
[12:08] <WeirdAl> No, I mean to this PC from that PC
[12:08] <WeirdAl> So I can actually copy.
[12:08] <dataw0lf|w> ah, I see.
[12:09] <python> i was just wondering if anyone on here has used a compiler called mtasc
[12:09] <Nafallo> hmm
[12:09] <Nafallo> /away doing bofh stuff
[12:09] <Nafallo> oops
[12:10] <dataw0lf|w> python: for swf files ?
[12:10] <python> yes data
[12:10] <raydogg> any tools that open .chm files ( windows help files )
[12:10] <Burgundavia> raydogg, xchm
[12:10] <dcraven> raydogg: xchm
[12:10] <WeirdAl> Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.Z" already registered at priority 0
[12:10] <WeirdAl> Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.gz" already registered at priority 0
[12:10] <WeirdAl> Warning: font renderer for ".snf" already registered at priority 0
[12:10] <WeirdAl> Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 0
[12:10] <WeirdAl> Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 0
[12:10] <WeirdAl> Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 0
[12:10] <WeirdAl> Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0
[12:10] <WeirdAl> Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0
[12:10] <dcraven> Oh my.
[12:10] <dataw0lf|w> whoa, whoa, in priv dude.
[12:10] <WeirdAl> Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0
[12:10] <WeirdAl> Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!
[12:10] <WeirdAl> (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory)
[12:10] <WeirdAl> (II) Configured Mouse: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded
[12:10] <Burgundavia> WeirdAl, please don't flood
[12:10] <WeirdAl> (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  removed 1 reserved context for kernel
[12:10] <WeirdAl> (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xe0baa000 at 0xb7db5000
[12:10] <WeirdAl> sorry
[12:10] <patrik> i have download unrar from synaptic but it doesnt work
[12:10] <hybrid_goth> #flood
[12:10] <WeirdAl> That was meant to go to datawolf
[12:11] <WeirdAl> I don't know why it didn't. :-\
[12:11] <python> do you use mtasc data
[12:11] <InitMass> which packages have to be installed to get fluxbox dev version to work with imlib2 and xpm?
[12:11] <Nafallo> patrik, I told you to download unrar-nonfree, not unrar :-).
[12:11] <p0m> fglrx doesn't sound happy.
[12:11] <enplo> patrik: download rar, and use rar x (file) to extract a rar file
[12:12] <Nafallo> enplo, won't work with pre-3.0 :-)
[12:12] <Nafallo> enplo, s/pre/post/ even
[12:12] <EvilAl> damnation
[12:12] <InitMass> bob2, which packages have to be installed to get fluxbox dev version to work with imlib2 and xpm?
[12:12] <patrik> but unrar non-free what does that means ? i cant find it in synaptic.
[12:12] <enplo> Nafallo: oh ok. actually i didn't know about unrar-nonfree :)
[12:12] <dcraven> patrik: it's in multiverse.
[12:13] <Nafallo> patrik, have you added the multiverse repo and reloaded?
[12:13] <patrik> okej
[12:13] <jbm__> can someone tell me if the default ubuntu install creates root password as random jibberish OR is root login explicitly disabled somehow?
[12:13] <patrik> ok
[12:13] <Fator_Dee> what would be a good program to record video from my computer tv-card?
[12:13] <patrik> brb
[12:13] <EvilAl> any good, wolf?
[12:13] <Nafallo> jbm__, blank password and disabled.
[12:14] <jbm__> Nafallo thx
[12:14] <dcraven> jbm__: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:14] <p0m> You could have just said it uses sudo :)
[12:15] <p0m> Tbh, I think sudo -s should be disabled.
[12:15] <hybrid_goth> p0m: yes but the wiki gives more detail
[12:15] <p0m> As soon as people start using it regularily there's more chance for catastrophe.
[12:15] <dcraven> p0m: Some people want more info and appreciate a decently URL for which to get it. Prevents them from needing to ask a million related questions.
[12:15] <Nafallo> p0m, are you kidding me? try echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward without it! ;-)
[12:15] <nickrud> p0m, I need sudo -s to edit /etc/shorewall
[12:16] <nickrud> conviently
[12:16] <tractor> can RPMs be easily installed?
[12:16] <raydogg> what is the -s option for ?
[12:16] <p0m> dcraven: Good point.
[12:16] <Nafallo> raydogg, shell :-)
[12:16] <p0m> Ok then, I retract my statement.
[12:16] <Burgundavia> tractor, you need to alien them
[12:16] <raydogg> I see
[12:16] <p0m> I haven't had a use for sudo -s yet.
[12:17] <tractor> you see, I'm at https://jsecom15a.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet/LegalPage:~:com.sun.sunit.sdlc.content.LegalWebPageInfo;jsessionid=75DE57663A170F81F7FD3AA40C993121;jsessionid=75DE57663A170F81F7FD3AA40C993121
[12:17] <hybrid_goth> p0m: what does the -s do?
[12:17] <Nafallo> p0m, I avoid it if possible :-)
[12:17] <tractor> which one do I download? the RPM or the other...
[12:17] <nickrud> hybrid_goth, give's you a root shell
[12:17] <hybrid_goth> tractor: deb is best
[12:17] <hybrid_goth> nickrud: oic ty
[12:17] <hybrid_goth> tractor: but anything can be aliened to a deb
[12:18] <shido6> grr
[12:18] <nickrud> tractor, you're trying to get java?
[12:18] <shido6> ok
[12:18] <tractor> aliened?
[12:18] <nickrud> ?? java
[12:18] <shido6> esd is fired up, working great - but OpenAL doesnt work now
[12:18] <[uhelp] > java: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java -OR- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats. You may also use apt-get to install 'java-package' which will take a linux binary copy of JRE from http://java.sun.com and create a debian package (make-jpkg).
[12:18] <tractor> nickrud, yeah? I guess I should use synaptic
[12:18] <nickrud> tractor, the java wiki, method three is good
[12:18] <tractor> alright.. I'll try it
[12:19] <tractor> thanks
[12:19] <tractor> but what is aliening?
[12:19] <nickrud> tractor, a means to convert rpms to debs as a very last resort :)
[12:19] <hybrid_goth> alean is a command that makes say a deb into a rpm or vise versa
[12:19] <tractor> ahh nice
[12:20] <Xenguy> alien
[12:20] <Xenguy> and yes, last resort only IMHO
[12:21] <hybrid_goth> tractor: it is not the best way to go i rather compile then alien
[12:21] <hybrid_goth> nickrud: why not
[12:21] <lotusleaf> when does the next batch of Ubuntu CDs ship?
[12:22] <Burgundavia> lotusleaf, when it does. They will contact you
[12:22] <lotusleaf> Burgundavia: k thx ;)
[12:22] <nickrud> hybrid_goth, I hate random files on my machine, have been warned that checkinstall is not all that, and am not going to learn dh_make or cdbs
[12:22] <nickrud> besides being lazy
[12:23] <InitMass> this is the error message i got when trying to make fluxbox from source: this is my error message http://phpfi.com/60131
[12:23] <jbm__> anyone here running breezy? im curious if its ready for nubs to screw with.
[12:23] <dcraven> nickrud: there's always "make uninstall" ;P
[12:23] <dcraven> jbm__: No I don't think it's quite there yet.
[12:23] <ogra> jbm__, nope
[12:23] <nickrud> dcraven, I've been burned a few times, and can't read make ;-P
[12:23] <InitMass> i installed libimlib2-dev and libimlib2 but i still get this this is my error message http://phpfi.com/60131
[12:23] <shido6> how do you get OpenAL working with Esd?
[12:23] <revelater> hey, i think i don't have DRI active in opengl, how doi activate?
[12:23] <hybrid_goth> nickrud: people have told me that if you compile it optimizes it for your system
[12:23] <lotusleaf> nickrud: when you say "have been warned that checkinstall is not all that" what do you mean? Have you noticed something specific?
[12:24] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, iffy
[12:24] <hybrid_goth> nickrud: and being on ppc i need all i can get
[12:24] <tractor> in gnome, when windows open, the part of the window that shows up in the task bar is expanded to the size of the window title.. how can I make them all of the same size?
[12:24] <dcraven> hybrid_goth: what Gentoo user told you that?
[12:24] <hybrid_goth> dcraven: roflol
[12:24] <nickrud> lotusleaf, I've never been burned personally, but people who more than I warned me away (it may have something to do with their opinion of my compiling skills)
[12:24] <InitMass> dcraven, you haven't any idea have you?
[12:24] <hybrid_goth> it was b4 i really tried linux it was in #debian or #mandrake
[12:25] <lotusleaf> nickrud: so noted, thanks. :)
[12:25] <EvilAl> Dammit, now it won't even open windows.
[12:25] <revelater> hey, i think i don't have DRI active in opengl, how do i activate?
[12:25] <EvilAl> It just sits there for ages not doing anything.
[12:25] <dcraven> InitMass: What's that supposed to mean?
[12:25] <cusco> please... Im having GRUB errors 17/18
[12:26] <dcraven> InitMass: I was gonna suggest you install libxpm-dev to fix your compile problem, but now I'm not gonna.
[12:26] <cusco> after the installing the system
[12:26] <cusco> and not fully installed yet, just when it finishes with the cd
[12:26] <cusco> why?
[12:26] <InitMass> dcraven, thank you ;) i'll try that
[12:26] <dcraven> Doh!
[12:27] <cusco> dataw0lf|w: I made those partitions but grub gives error 17 or 18
[12:27] <MightyF> i start totem and i get the error "Totem could not startup.  Resource busy or not available."  Whats going on?
[12:28] <raydogg> anyone know why vmware can't open my sound device in ubuntu?
[12:29] <Burgundavia> raydogg, try killing esd
[12:30] <Burgundavia> raydogg, it may be directly trying to access the sound device at /dev/dsp
[12:30] <shido6> totem wont play sound
[12:30] <Burgundavia> shido6, any sound? give you any errors?
[12:30] <MightyF> Burgundavia, could you help me troubleshoot totem?
[12:31] <Burgundavia> MightyF, can try
[12:31] <mdke> Burgundavia, :p
[12:31] <MightyF> raydogg, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:32] <MightyF> raydogg, the last one, the first link, allows you to use esd and allow access to /dev/dsp
[12:32] <dcraven> shido6: Does this happen with all movies or just mov by chance?
[12:32] <handsomerob> could someone help me with ubuntu warty it won't start gnome and i just installed it a minute ago
[12:32] <serena> qualche italiano?
[12:32] <MightyF> Burgundavia, I try to run it and it says it can't open because the resource is busy or unavailable.  But I have no idea what resource
[12:32] <Burgundavia> serena, #ubuntu-it
[12:32] <shido6> um
[12:32] <InitMass> dcraven, thank you again for the help. we have been working with this for hours
[12:32] <shido6> I love ubuntu
[12:32] <hybrid_goth> synaptic is moving so *slooooooow*
[12:32] <serena> #ubuntu-it
[12:33] <maddler> serena... /hoin #ubuntu-it
[12:33] <maddler> serena... /join #ubuntu-it
[12:33] <hybrid_goth> sernea /join ubuntu-it
[12:33] <maddler> pardon
[12:33] <mdke> *laughs*
[12:33] <maddler> mdke... :)
[12:33] <serena> ehm..thanks...
[12:33] <maddler> serena... u are welcome...
[12:33] <mdke> serena, e' pieno cosi di italiani come vedi
[12:33] <dcraven> InitMass: Not a problem.
[12:33] <serena> a ecco!^^
[12:34] <serena> che bello..mi sento un po' meglio
[12:35] <Bily> Hi there... is there someone that can help me wint x-chat version 2.4.1?
[12:35] <zxc_> hmm, all the options on gparted are greyed :/...any ideas?
[12:35] <dcraven> shido6: Let's keep it in the channel. There are lots of people in here that maybe can help you.
[12:36] <mdke> billytwowilly, shoot
[12:36] <MightyF> zxc_, are you root?
[12:36] <hybrid_goth> how can i make a partition for another distro with out delete this current one? prefferably a gui to do it b/c i dont get parted
[12:36] <mdke> damn
[12:36] <handsomerob> could someone welp with a screen issue
[12:36] <mdke> Bily, shoot
[12:36] <MightyF> zxc_, or are you running it as root?
[12:36] <billytwowilly> mdke: huh?
[12:36] <zxc_> MightyF...umm, pretty much a linux n00b, I use sudo usally. Do II login as root?
[12:36] <Bily> mdke : Since I don't know when... all my dcc connection appear in the current channel... like notice
[12:36] <mdke> billytwowilly, sorry, wrong nick
[12:36] <zxc_> not sure how to use root when just clicking and opening
[12:37] <billytwowilly> hilarious, I JUST sat down at the comp after being away for a long time;)
[12:37] <billytwowilly> mdke: no problem, cheers.
[12:37] <Burgundavia> ZxC, did it ask you for a password when you started it?
[12:37] <MightyF> zxc_, sudo gparted
[12:37] <zxc_> ah k cool, done
[12:37] <zxc_> thanks
[12:37] <MightyF> np
[12:37] <zxc_> wait
[12:37] <zxc_> or not
[12:37] <zxc_> :/
[12:37] <mdke> Bily, yes that is true
[12:37] <zxc_> I sudo gparted
[12:37] <zxc_> still greyed out
[12:38] <MightyF> Burgundavia, any idea with totem?  I couldn't figure out what resource its looking for thats busy
[12:38] <mdke> Bily, i can't find the option to change that
[12:38] <handsomerob> hi i have no gui after boot can some one help it says something about xserver
[12:38] <Bily> mdke : how can I put it back in a new tab?
[12:38] <MightyF> zxc_, thats the limit of my knowledge, sorry.
[12:38] <hybrid_goth> handsomerob: startx
[12:38] <zxc_> MightyF, thanks anyway :)
[12:38] <Burgundavia> MightyF, didn't you try and switch away from esd?
[12:38] <handsomerob> hybrid_goth what should i do after that?
[12:38] <mdke> Bily, maybe in the Tab section of preferences, Open utilities in Tabs? not sure tho
[12:39] <Bily> mdke : Okay... I've check everywhere ... no idea where the config could be.... anybody know where I can find that?
[12:39] <MightyF> Burgundavia, no, but I tried disabling sound on the command line
[12:39] <zxc_> any idea how to use gparted?
[12:39] <zxc_> I have 35gb unallocated
[12:39] <zxc_> but I can't add it to the linux partition
[12:39] <MightyF> zxc_, sure you can run it on a hard drive you have mounted?
[12:39] <hybrid_goth> handsomerob: that should start x for you
[12:39] <Burgundavia> MightyF, check your sound settings in GNOME
[12:39] <hybrid_goth> isnt that all you needed
[12:40] <zxc_> MightyF, no idea :/
[12:40] <Burgundavia> MightyF, that is where you set it for esd
[12:40] <handsomerob> hybrid_goth: would that also start gnome?
[12:40] <hybrid_goth> idk
[12:40] <MightyF> zxc_, I think thats the case
[12:40] <zxc_> surely if I unmount "/" ubuntu will crash?
[12:41] <dcraven> shido6: The totem you are using, is it totem-xine?
[12:41] <MightyF> Burgundavia, Ummm, I can't find where that is, I'll just kill esd
[12:41] <Burgundavia> MightyF, restart esd and make certain that gnome is using esd
[12:41] <Burgundavia> MightyF, system-->admin-->sound
[12:41] <zxc_> how do I unmount "/"
[12:42] <dcraven> ??
[12:42] <Burgundavia> MightyF, sorry, system-->prefs-->multimedia systems selector
[12:42] <[uhelp] > ??[x] : Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] 
[12:42] <Quest-Master> zxc_: you have to do that using a LiveCD..
[12:42] <MightyF> Burgundavia, esd wasn't running, strage huh?
[12:42] <Bily> mdke : nope... still dosen't work.....
[12:42] <Burgundavia> MightyF, it should be
[12:42] <handsomerob> hybrid_goth: thanks i'll try that but my problem really is that after it boots and starts the login it just goes blank can any one esle help?
[12:42] <MightyF> Burgundavia, ps -A | grep esd
[12:42] <thechitowncubs> are there any alternatives to limewire?
[12:42] <MightyF> Burgundavia, nothing
[12:43] <a_monkey> i downloaded an ubuntu powerpc install cd. if i try to start disk utility while the image is mounted, i get an error saying "Error starting Disk Utility background process"
[12:43] <zxc_> is there any partition program which will work in ubuntu for resizing ubuntu partition?
[12:43] <Burgundavia> MightyF, restart with esd &
[12:43] <zxc_> :/
[12:43] <Burgundavia> ZxC, try qtparted, but I suspect greater wierdness in your system
[12:43] <dcraven> thechitowncubs: there is gtk-gnutella and gift.
[12:43] <zxc_> Burgundavia, greater weirdness?
[12:43] <dcraven> thechitowncubs: those are two alternatives btw.
[12:44] <mdke> Bily, not sure it can be done
[12:44] <thechitowncubs> thanks craven
[12:44] <thechitowncubs> =D
[12:44] <Burgundavia> zxc_, you should be able to resize that partition
[12:44] <thechitowncubs> which do you prefer?
[12:44] <thechitowncubs> and are any of these in the repo's?
[12:44] <dcraven> thechitowncubs: I don't do much P2P stuff, but when I do, I use gift.
[12:44] <MightyF> Burgundavia, still gives me the error
[12:44] <dcraven> thechitowncubs: both.
[12:44] <thechitowncubs> alright, cool
[12:45] <thechitowncubs> thanks a lot
[12:45] <Bily> mdke : it was working before... I don't know what I done to broke it... but I'm sure it was working... so dumb I am!
[12:45] <dcraven> thechitowncubs: gift can do gnutella, fasttrack (kazaa), and openft.
[12:45] <mdke> Bily, its always been like that here
[12:45] <zxc_> nope, still won't let me resize "/" in qtparted, burgundavia
[12:45] <p0m> thechitowncubs: Nicotine is pretty damn good too.
[12:46] <Burgundavia> MightyF, did you confirm that you have the esd selected in the multimedia systems selector?
[12:46] <MightyF> Burgundavia, indeed I did
[12:46] <Bily> mdke : really??? humm... maybe I mix thing with windows....
[12:46] <Burgundavia> zxc_, I would try a knoppix cd
[12:46] <Burgundavia> zxc_, that will allow you to do it
[12:46] <Burgundavia> MightyF, hmm, I have no idea
[12:46] <zxc_> ergh, k
[12:46] <MightyF> Burgundavia, ok, I'm gonna try a reboot, I've been messing with the system for a while now
[12:47] <mdke> Bily, i've asked a friend, he doesn't know either. He says that he uses kde's window controller to prevent it from stealing focus, but i don't know what else you could do
[12:47] <handsomerob> can anyone give me some warty help?
[12:47] <Rocha> Hello
[12:47] <Rocha> I need to authenticate users with ldap
[12:47] <thechitowncubs> so many choices :)
[12:47] <Rocha> Is there any gui program in ubuntu to configure that?
[12:48] <Rocha> All my college is running winxp and mandrake
[12:48] <mdke> handsomerob, just go ahead with the question and hopefully someone will answer
[12:48] <mdke> especially with a nick like that
[12:48] <Rocha> I want to install ubuntu in all the machines.
[12:48] <zxc_> No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.Error: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!  You should e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean filesystem could cause severe corruption.
[12:48] <Bily> mdke : Okay.... thanks for your help... I least I will not waste my time on that non existent problem :)
[12:48] <zxc_> maybe that's a problem Burgundavia?
[12:48] <handsomerob> ok i just need help right before gnome is supposed to start it hangs forever
[12:49] <Burgundavia> zxc_, you were trying to change an ext3 partition, right?
[12:49] <mdke> Bily, its really annoying tho, maybe worth filing a bug if it doesn't already exist
[12:49] <zxc_> yeah, I have unallocated space already so I don't need to mess with ntfs
[12:49] <Bily> mdke : It was working on previous release?
[12:50] <a_monkey> if i try to open the .iso with disk utility before it's mounted, i get a "Disk Utility internal error"
[12:50] <a_monkey> can somebody please help?
[12:50] <mdke> Bily, you could try this: prefs/interface/tabs focus new tabs/never
[12:50] <zxc_> yeah, I have unallocated space already so I don't need to mess with ntfs. I'm trying to resize my ext3 burgundavia
[12:51] <Burgundavia> zxc_, I don't know if you can resize a mounted partition
[12:51] <zxc_> any way to scandisk it for errors?
[12:52] <zxc_> as thats what Partition magic said was wrong with it
[12:52] <dcraven> zxc_: If you don't need the space for / then you could always just mount it and add it to your home dir.. Fill it up with data. Just another option.
[12:53] <dcraven> a_monkey: what is the disk utility?
[12:53] <a_monkey> dcraven: mac os x's "Disk Utility"
[12:54] <dcraven> a_monkey: oh.
[12:54] <zumbi> hi, i am a debian sid user, is it ok if i use ubuntu hoary mirror in my sources.list ?
[12:54] <a_monkey> breezy is newer than hoary, right?
[12:54] <a_monkey> zumbi: yes
[12:54] <dcraven> a_monkey:
[12:55] <jordanau> a_monkey, yes it the unstable ubuntu version
[12:55] <dcraven> a_monkey: err.. yes it is.
[12:55] <Bily> mdke : it dosen't work ... but forget it... I will live with that :)
[12:55] <Rocha> Any here knows how to configure an ldap client?
[12:55] <mdke> Bily, i'm asking in #xchat
[12:55] <zxc_> dcraven, I just made a mistake of choosing 3,000 mb instead of 30,000mb when partitioning. Need to install Mathematica and I've run out of space >_<
[12:55] <a_monkey> well maybe a breezy install cd will work
[12:55] <a_monkey> can anybody link me to one of those?
[12:55] <Bily> mdke : okay!
[12:55] <jordanau> a_monkey, there isn't one i dont think
[12:55] <dcraven> a_monkey: Are you just trying to mount the iso? You could try "mount -o loop whatever.iso /your/mount/point/".
[12:56] <dcraven> a_monkey: there are no breezy CD's yet.
[12:57] <a_monkey> dcraven: nope. if i try to mount the iso *while* disk utility is running, there's a problem
[12:57] <a_monkey> dcraven: otherwise, i can mount it perfectly well
[12:57] <dcraven> a_monkey: I dunno what disk utility is, so I'll stop with the suggestions.. :)
[12:57] <a_monkey> is there any other way to burn an iso cd other than disk utility in os x, anybody?
[12:58] <thechitowncubs> gtk-gnutella is slick
[12:58] <mdke> Bily, it is: settings > preferences > tabs > open utilities in > TAB
[12:58] <thechitowncubs> i couldn't get gift to work
[12:58] <mdke> Bily, have tested and it works
[12:58] <jordanau> a_monkey, what do you burn music cd's with?
[12:58] <Bily> mdke : try to dcc chat me
[12:58] <dcraven> thechitowncubs: Probably because you didn't do the gift-setup step.
[12:58] <mdke> ok
[12:59] <zumbi> a_monkey, mixing distros won't lead me to a distrobreak ?
[01:00] <fsapo> lol i ve umounted the driver but it dont wanna eject O_o
[01:00] <fsapo> drive*
[01:00] <Burgundavia> zumbi, I wouldn't really recommend it
[01:00] <Burgundavia> zumbi, most of what is in Hoary is older than sid
[01:01] <zumbi> there is xorg and the package i wanted is kdevelop
[01:01] <thechitowncubs> dcraven: ya... i did, but i just didn't bother to actually fill it out, enter,enter,enter :)
[01:01] <fsapo> the drive button isnt working :( and the software says: eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[01:01] <thechitowncubs> im satisfied with GTK-gnutella
[01:01] <Burgundavia> zumbi, why not run hoary?
[01:01] <mpq> can you safely resize a partition?
[01:01] <AR> cause hoary is damaging your MBR ;)
[01:01] <AR> LOL
[01:02] <dcraven> thechitowncubs: Cool. I've never tried gtk-gnutella. But for future, the first setting in gift-setup is the kicker.
[01:02] <zumbi> hehe, well, is very much the same think, is it ? i have my system configured, nice try :-D
[01:02] <Predius> newsflash, gtk-gnutella wins the internet
[01:03] <mpq> is it possible to resize the main partition?
[01:03] <neighborlee> is there a 'easy' way to mount my windows partitions ( was not done out of the box) cause atm I' m not seeing anything beyond editing fstab ???
[01:04] <Burgundavia> neighborlee, nothing currently
[01:04] <dcraven> mpq: probably not while you are using it.
[01:04] <neighborlee> Burgundavia, ok thank you for verification
[01:04] <mcquaid> hello, i just compiled the ubuntu kernel, i've compiled the kernel before with other distros but something i'm not familar with is  initrd.img
[01:04] <mpq> then how do I do it?
[01:04] <thechitowncubs> Linux needs more apps like amaroK
[01:05] <mpq> how would I not use it?
[01:05] <mcquaid> what is that? normally when i compile i copy over the bzImage and the systemmap
[01:05] <dcraven> mpq: with a livecd or something. Knoppix maybe?
[01:05] <thechitowncubs> amaroK is amazing
[01:05] <Predius> amaroK is *the* best music app.
[01:06] <thechitowncubs> Predius: most definetly
[01:06] <g14-afk> Predius: Why do you say that?
[01:06] <pakkiri> join
[01:06] <dcraven> mcquaid: the initrd is not necessary. If you compile everything that the system needs to boot (ie IDE, filesystem etc) statically instead of as modules, then you are golden.
[01:06] <thechitowncubs> gl4: because its got everything, GREAT music player
[01:06] <Predius> There's not even a Windows app which can match iy
[01:06] <thechitowncubs> i wish gtk was capable of apps like it
[01:06] <g14> thechitowncubs: I prefer the newest version of rhythmbox
[01:06] <g14> from cvs
[01:07] <thechitowncubs> gl4: i haven't seen it
[01:07] <thechitowncubs> rhythmbox hasn't updated in a long time
[01:07] <MightyF> esd doesn't load on boot
[01:07] <thechitowncubs> gl4: got a screenshot or smoething
[01:07] <mcquaid> dcraven, actually i realized half way through that i did compile my fs as a module instead of statically so i would need that
[01:07] <dcraven> mcquaid: yeppers
[01:07] <g14> thechitowncubs: No this isn't my dev box
[01:08] <mcquaid> so where is that created in the linux src?
[01:08] <Predius> g14, have you tried amaroK?
[01:08] <thechitowncubs> gl4: a lot different than the latest stable version?
[01:08] <pakkiri> how do I get into #java?
[01:09] <pakkiri> how do I get myself identified to join a channel?
[01:09] <thechitowncubs> identify with nickserv
[01:09] <dcraven> mcquaid: Under File systems :)
[01:09] <g14> Predius: Yes, but it uses qt
[01:09] <thechitowncubs> ./msg nickserv identify <pw>
[01:09] <g14> Predius: It's ok, but It's not my cup of tea
[01:09] <MightyF> can anyone help me diagnose this issue?  ESD isn't loading on startup and I can't figure out why
[01:09] <thechitowncubs> ./msg nickserv help (i think)
[01:09] <thechitowncubs> ya
[01:09] <thechitowncubs> do ./msg nickserv help
[01:09] <thechitowncubs> without the period
[01:10] <mcquaid> dcraven, do you where exactly? i don't see it under /usr/src/linux/fs
[01:10] <dcraven> MightyF: Did you clicky the little box in GNOME's sound settings?
[01:10] <MightyF> dcraven, where?
[01:10] <thechitowncubs> gl4: what is different about it since the latest stable
[01:10] <dcraven> mcquaid: Woah.. Use a tool like menuconfig.
[01:11] <dcraven> MightyF: System, Preferences, Sound I think.
[01:11] <thechitowncubs> the only thing turning me off from rhythmbox is the way it handles large libraries
[01:11] <thechitowncubs> takes forever to add songs, and crahses when i try to add songs
[01:11] <g14> thechitowncubs: wow! I can't begin to list everything. Just wait a few months and when they release check it out
[01:11] <MightyF> dcraven, ahhh, haha, oops, thanks
[01:11] <thechitowncubs> gl4: really, now im excited
[01:12] <thechitowncubs> gl4: how does it handle large libraries?
[01:12] <g14> thechitowncubs: I have ~20GB of music :)
[01:12] <darmou> rythmbox seems to be not great for streaming
[01:12] <mcquaid> no i don't need menuconfig, i've already used gconfig to set up the kernel
[01:12] <thechitowncubs> gl4: so it works good?
[01:13] <g14> thechitowncubs: Yeah I like it
[01:13] <dcraven> mcquaid: Then you could use gconfig to make the fs compile statically.
[01:13] <thechitowncubs> cool, can't wait :)
[01:13] <g14> like gnomebaker, rhythmbox is one of those things that gnome NEEDS
[01:13] <mcquaid> yes, i could, but i thought if it was just a matter of copying over a file to /boot instead of recompiling
[01:14] <thechitowncubs> gl4: very true, the next gnome release will be full of goodies =D
[01:14] <g14> thechitowncubs, And distros like ubuntu just make it better :)
[01:16] <thechitowncubs> I know, its great how every ubuntu release is synced up with gnome
[01:16] <thechitowncubs> :)
[01:16] <Bachus9000> Is there a way to prevent xcompmgr from drawing shadows around a specific window?  the -C option isn't working on the GNOME panel and it's getting annoying...
[01:17] <dcraven> mcquaid: I'm afraid that's a mandatory recompile.
[01:18] <pepperpot> When I left home this morning my computer was on. When I came back, it was off. I'm trying to figure out what happened, i.e. memory leak, power outage, etc. I tried looking at /var/messages and apparently the last thing that was recorded was around 14:00. What other logs should I ceck?
[01:18] <dcraven> mcquaid: no need to recompile the whole kernel though.. make will just do what's needed.
[01:18] <eruin> anyone got pinstripe icons ?
[01:18] <mcquaid> dcraven, yeah already restarted, i guess i'm curious if one does not compile fs statically, where does one get this initrd.img
[01:19] <dcraven> pepperpot: syslog?
[01:19] <dcraven> mcquaid: mkinitrd
[01:19] <p0m> eruin: I do know a bloke that was making a striped gtk theme, but he's not around right now, sorry.
[01:19] <dcraven> mcquaid: "man mkinitrd" I meant.
[01:20] <mcquaid> ok thx i'll look into that another time
[01:20] <pepperpot> dcraven, mostly fetchmail statements
[01:20] <pepperpot> would an out-of-memory error leave behind any telltale signs?
[01:20] <pepperpot> how can i tell if it was software vs. hardware that caused the shutdown?
[01:20] <Bachus9000> Also, I have both of the default GNOME panels at the top of the screen.  When I first moved the taskbar to the top it appeared where I wanted--below the Applications/Places/System menu.  Every time I've logged in after that the placement has been reversed.  Can I change this behavior?
[01:21] <eruin> p0m: I'm thinking icons, not gtk though.. I'm happy with my custom clearlooks theme ;)
[01:21] <p0m> Clearlooks is pretty damn nice.
[01:21] <eruin> yeah
[01:21] <p0m> I like my clearlooks-industrial :)
[01:21] <Bachus9000> Especially with the bluecurve colors. :)
[01:21] <thechitowncubs> hehe
[01:22] <p0m> Clearlooks-industrial + Sloth or Milk = win.
[01:22] <mcquaid> dcraven, last question, i'm new to grub, normally use lilo, once i've updated menu.1st does grub need to update the mbr like lilo?
[01:23] <dcraven> mcquaid: No. It'll just read that file on boot.
[01:23] <g14> mcquaid: No, one of grubs best features is that it can read the filesystems
[01:23] <mcquaid> cool, thx
[01:23] <thechitowncubs> where did you guys get the bluecurve clearlooks?
[01:23] <mcquaid> ya i like that makes sense
[01:23] <mcquaid> i found it weird when i first used lilo that it couldn't just read the file
[01:23] <dcraven> I didn't know you needed to do that with lilo.. eww
[01:24] <mcquaid> ya i hear ya. ok rebooting seeing if kern worked bbl thx again
[01:24] <p0m> thechitowncubs: I think it's on gnome-look.org
[01:24] <g14> A clearlooks package is available through Synaptic
[01:24] <g14> Thats how I installed it
[01:25] <g14> You might have to enable the multiverse repository
[01:25] <lexxan> ?? repository
[01:25] <[uhelp] > repository: To add repositories such as multiverse or marillat please see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#repositories -OR- you can use synaptic package manager - Settings --> Repositories --> Remove all --> Readd with the + Add button (note: this method does not enable the marillat repositories)
[01:29] <brian_> hey just got upgraded from warty to hoary anything i need to make sure my upgrade is clean and smooth?
[01:29] <Marble2> what can I use at command line to extract and repackage .jar files
[01:30] <dcraven> brian_: just do your "apt-get dist-upgrade" and you're done.
[01:30] <brian_> yea i did that, just wanna know of i need any specific metapackages
[01:30] <brian_> pther than ubuntu-desktop
[01:31] <Burgundavia> ?? mp3
[01:31] <[uhelp] > mp3: To setup mp3 playback, see http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:31] <dcraven> Marble2: fastjar?
[01:31] <brian_> ^^ that a bot?
[01:31] <p0m> Mp3 playback works out of the box on warty.
[01:31] <dcraven> brian_: yes.
[01:32] <p0m> At least, from what I've seen.
[01:32] <seth_slackware> hey
[01:32] <ignas> how is libgd package called ?
[01:32] <seth_slackware> What is that gnome print tool called again?
[01:32] <Vjaz> p0m: Hm... I think you do need to install the mad plugin for gstreamer.
[01:32] <brian_> how do you edit menus, my shortcut for it won't work
[01:32] <jordanau> Burgundavia, is ?? a bot ?
[01:33] <brian_> ?? gnome
[01:33] <[uhelp] > gnome[x] : No defenition found for word.
[01:33] <brian_> didnt work for me
[01:33] <brian_> ohhhhh
[01:33] <jordanau> ?? mount
[01:33] <[uhelp] > mount[x] : No defenition found for word.
[01:33] <brian_> ?? god
[01:33] <[uhelp] > god[x] : No defenition found for word.
[01:33] <Vjaz> p0m: What did you play MP3's with in warty?
[01:33] <jordanau> brian_, so he doesn't exist
[01:33] <dcraven> brian_: it's a new bot :)
[01:33] <brian_> lol
[01:34] <p0m> Vjaz: Rythmbox.
[01:34] <jordanau> dcraven, is it okay if we play with him? :)
[01:34] <Burgundavia> jordanau, just testing it right now, but you can query it
[01:34] <dcraven> seth_slackware: gnome-cups-manager?
[01:34] <jordanau> ?? ntfs
[01:34] <[uhelp] > ntfs[x] : No defenition found for word.
[01:34] <Burgundavia> jordanau, currently being tested by the doc team and lexxan
[01:34] <hybrid_goth> Burgundavia: whats the bots name
[01:34] <jordanau> he needs an ntfs definition
[01:34] <dcraven> jordanau: I suppose. Just play nicely.
[01:34] <seth_slackware> esting it right now, but you can query it
[01:34] <seth_slackware> dcraven seth_slackware: gnome-cups-manageryah
[01:34] <seth_slackware> err
[01:34] <seth_slackware> yah
[01:34] <lexxan> ?? mountntfs
[01:35] <[uhelp] > mountntfs: To learn about mounting windows partitions (ntfs, fat) see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[01:35] <dcraven> jordanau: it's a linux bot.
[01:35] <brian_> nvidia settings supposed to show up in menu?
[01:35] <jordanau> dcraven, yes sir Mr. dcraven i will be good :)
[01:35] <Vjaz> p0m: Ok. I'm pretty sure you need to install the plugin before it works.
[01:35] <dcraven> jordanau: do "** query" to search for it.
[01:35] <dcraven> ** ntfs
[01:35] <[uhelp] > Found 1 matches. Sorted: mountntfs. (0.002s)
[01:36] <jordanau> dcraven, i know he is a linux bot, that is just a common question
[01:36] <dcraven> jordanau: What is ntfs is a common question? heh
[01:36] <dcraven> jordanau: Oh you mean the mountntfs one.. I agree.
[01:36] <jordanau> ** apt
[01:36] <[uhelp] > Found 4 matches. Sorted: apt, java, repository, synaptic. (0.002s)
[01:36] <jordanau> cool
[01:37] <hybrid_goth> i like the #debian bot names
[01:37] <hybrid_goth> dpkg and apt
[01:37] <IIIEars> uhelp - do you know about grub?
[01:37] <brian_> ?? grub
[01:37] <[uhelp] > grub: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto -AND- Grub Boot floppy - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy. If you are simply trying to edit your bootup list, timeout or default OS to boot see /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:37] <hybrid_goth> nice
[01:37] <dcraven> IIIEars: It doesn't actually speak English.
[01:37] <brian_> haha
[01:38] <IIIEars> yeppers  - nice - gives a nice impression to new users :)
[01:38] <jordanau> [uhelp] , i have a nasty rash, what is it?
[01:38] <hybrid_goth> [uhelp]  : any Java PPC help?
[01:38] <thoreauputic> dcraven: neither do a lot of the supposed english speakers in the channel ;)
[01:38] <dcraven> ...
[01:38] <hybrid_goth> jordan: heh
[01:38] <jordanau> okay i am done playing
[01:38] <dcraven> thoreauputic: hha. true
[01:39] <hybrid_goth> [uhelp]  : any Java PPC help?
[01:39] <IIIEars> dcraven - really? - what is it's native tongue?
[01:39] <jordanau> ** java
[01:39] <[uhelp] > Found 2 matches. Sorted: java, restricted. (0.002s)
[01:39] <jordanau> ??java
[01:39] <jordanau> ?? java
[01:39] <[uhelp] > java: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java -OR- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats. You may also use apt-get to install 'java-package' which will take a linux binary copy of JRE from http://java.sun.com and create a debian package (make-jpkg).
[01:39] <dcraven> IIIEars: bot
[01:39] <IIIEars> java - is likely
[01:39] <jordanau> there ya go hybrid
[01:39] <hybrid_goth> lol
[01:39] <hybrid_goth> no ppc tho
[01:40] <hybrid_goth> :'(
[01:40] <jordanau> ** ppc
[01:40] <IIIEars> that is a huge improvement - a lot of new users get frustrated waiting for an answer to what they know is a simple question
[01:40] <[uhelp] > Sorry, no matches for ppc on the defenition database. (0.002s)
[01:40] <thoreauputic> ?? ppc
[01:40] <[uhelp] > ppc[x] : No defenition found for word.
[01:40] <hybrid_goth> [uhelp]  ; what is up whith the root account
[01:40] <jordanau> haha
[01:40] <dcraven> ?? root
[01:41] <[uhelp] > root: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:41] <thoreauputic> hybrid_goth: umm... tht approach won't work
[01:41] <jordanau> ?? sudo
[01:41] <[uhelp] > sudo: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[01:41] <hybrid_goth> ooo
[01:41] <brian_> why are my workspace things so wide now?
[01:41] <IIIEars> have you implemented any flood protection for the occasional troll - please say yes.
[01:41] <DoppleGanger> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/05/msg00000.html
[01:41] <jordanau> brian_, what do you mean by workspace things?
[01:42] <amonkey> poll: what's your favorite (gui) ftp client?
[01:42] <brian_> the multiple desktops
[01:42] <dcraven> It's lexxan's bot. Everyone thank him.
[01:42] <paxmaster> could some one help me, i really need help setting a printer for linux but the problems is the printer is connect with window
[01:42] <hybrid_goth> amonkey: gftp
[01:42] <brian_> workspace switcher
[01:42] <IIIEars> << Impressed
[01:42] <brian_> there we go
[01:42] <paxmaster> i trying this for weeks but no luck
[01:42] <jordanau> brian_, the actual switcher itself is large?
[01:42] <dcraven> amonkey: gftp I guess...
[01:42] <brian_> the boxes are so wide
[01:42] <brian_> can't i adjust them?
[01:43] <jordanau> amonkey, leechftp, i havent tried any in linux yet
[01:43] <IIIEars> uhelp - do you know about kubuntu?
[01:43] <jordanau> brian_, does it say "workspace switcher" in the boxes?
[01:44] <brian_> nope
[01:44] <amonkey> i can't get gftp's ssh2 to work right. or at all. just kinda sits there.
[01:44] <jordanau> IIIEars, you can't ask questions that way
[01:44] <IIIEars> uhoh - what is the best way?
[01:44] <Vjaz> Anyone know if there is any support for Mozilla Sunbird for the Gnome Clock/Calendar Applet?
[01:44] <paxmaster> can someone help me
[01:44] <Vjaz> Or an alternative applet maybe?
[01:44] <hybrid_goth> ?? kubuntu
[01:44] <[uhelp] > kubuntu[x] : No defenition found for word.
[01:44] <jordanau> brian_, i am sorry, i meant the workspace name
[01:44] <g14> brian_: right click on them -> Preferences
[01:44] <dcraven> brian_: If they are abnormally large, like they are broken or somehting, a "killall gnome-panel" might fix them. I've had to do that before.
[01:44] <IIIEars> Ouch!
[01:44] <hybrid_goth> ?? xubuntu
[01:44] <[uhelp] > xubuntu[x] : No defenition found for word.
[01:45] <hybrid_goth> :'(
[01:45] <amonkey> ?? hybrid_goth
[01:45] <[uhelp] > hybrid_goth[x] : No defenition found for word.
[01:45] <hybrid_goth> xubuntu definition : best distro ever.period.
[01:45] <g14> brian_: Then make it say Show workspaces in 2 rows
[01:45] <hybrid_goth> lol
[01:45] <Vjaz> hybrid_goth: What's that?
[01:45] <hybrid_goth> ?? sex
[01:45] <[uhelp] > sex[x] : No defenition found for word.
[01:45] <hybrid_goth> oopz
[01:45] <brian_> k ill try both
[01:46] <IIIEars> poor lexxan - do a great thing and get nothing but sleep deprived for your efforts. - sympathetic grin
[01:46] <amonkey> of course there would be no definition. this is a linux channel.
[01:46] <dcraven> Okay maybe we should let the bot rest before we get carried away.
[01:46] <lexxan> haha
[01:46] <hybrid_goth> Vjaz: that is the best linux user ever
[01:46] <g14> ?? hacker
[01:46] <[uhelp] > hacker[x] : No defenition found for word.
[01:46] <DanglyBits> nyone know where I can locate mambo for ubuntu?
[01:46] <DanglyBits> anyone know where I can locate mambo for ubuntu?
[01:46] <hybrid_goth> dcraven: :D
[01:46] <Vjaz> hybrid_goth: Xubuntu?
[01:47] <nickrud> definition is misspelled :)
[01:47] <paxmaster> i need help setting up a printer
[01:47] <hybrid_goth> Vjaz: it is like kubuntu in hoary; it is ubuntu with xfce and it is gain steam
[01:47] <dcraven> DanglyBits: www.mamboserver.com
[01:47] <thoreauputic> amonkey: apt-cache show sex << there IS a package :)
[01:47] <Vjaz> hybrid_goth: Is it an actual project, or do you just mean running Ubuntu with XFCE?
[01:47] <brian_> dcraven: killall worked
[01:47] <mcquaid> damn i got a kernel panic due to not syncing the VFS with my custom kernel
[01:47] <thoreauputic> amonkey: it's an editor
[01:47] <hybrid_goth> Vjaz: i thot u were askin what hybrid_goth is
[01:47] <brian_> they were pretty big now they're arright
[01:47] <Vjaz> hybrid_goth: Heh, no. :-P
[01:47] <hybrid_goth> Vjaz: no it is not it is like kubuntu was in warty
[01:47] <Vjaz> hybrid_goth: I was addressing you.
[01:47] <dcraven> brian_: cool
[01:48] <ignas> where can one get libiconv-dev on ubuntu ?
[01:48] <hybrid_goth> Vjaz: yea i c now
[01:48] <ignas> i can't find any poackages, only some libjconv ...
[01:48] <dcraven> mcquaid: Did you get IDE in there statically?
[01:48] <Vjaz> hybrid_goth: Well Kubuntu was a real project at making all the packages and tying it all together... is there a project website or something for Xubuntu?
[01:49] <mcquaid> yep i did reiser statically which this partition is
[01:49] <Vjaz> hybrid_goth: Btw, I think a much better name would be UbuntuX. Easier to pronounce and it even has a tux in it!
[01:49] <hybrid_goth> Vjaz: it is just a underground but there is forum threads in it
[01:49] <spiderworm> hey anyone know if they have cedega for 64 bit and if i could run 32 bit windows games on 64 bit ubuntu with it?
[01:49] <amonkey> thoreauputic: stand for anynthign?
[01:49] <hybrid_goth> yea
[01:49] <mcquaid> i copied over my first entry in menu.1st and modified it for the kernel name i used and commented out the initrd line
[01:49] <hybrid_goth> Vjaz: thnx ill announce that
[01:49] <thoreauputic> amonkey: I don't know :)
[01:49] <Vjaz> hybrid_goth: Ok, thanks.
[01:49] <hybrid_goth> np
[01:49] <Vjaz> hybrid_goth: Announce? The name?
[01:50] <hybrid_goth> yea
[01:50] <Vjaz> Heh, ok.
[01:50] <thoreauputic> amonkey: Simple Editor for X
[01:50] <dcraven> mcquaid: Are the disks IDE? If so, then that will need to be compiled statically too. Not *just* the filesystem.
[01:50] <darkaudit> hybrid_goth: which name?
[01:50] <thoreauputic> amonkey: from apt-cache show sex
[01:50] <hybrid_goth> darkaudit: Ubuntux
[01:50] <Vjaz> hybrid_goth: I partly stole the idea from Lugradio. They were joking about calling "Ubuntu with a K" UbuntuK.
[01:50] <mcquaid> damnit that must be it forgot about that
[01:50] <hybrid_goth> x/X/UbuntuX'
[01:50] <mcquaid> thx
[01:51] <hybrid_goth> Vjaz: lol
[01:51] <Vjaz> Which also sounds cool. It has a tribal vibe to it. :-P
[01:51] <hybrid_goth> lol
[01:51] <darkaudit> #UbuntuX now active :)
[01:52] <Vjaz> Hahaa
[01:52] <alvaro_> what's lba
[01:52] <hybrid_goth> swet
[01:52] <hybrid_goth> **sweet
[01:52] <alvaro_> what's lda
[01:52] <alvaro_> what's dma
[01:52] <alvaro_> ha
[01:52] <dcraven> alvaro_: direct memory access
[01:52] <mcquaid> dcraven, should IDE statically alone be sufficient?
[01:53] <alvaro_> and is activated in ubuntu?
[01:53] <dcraven> mcquaid: With the filesystems it might be.. I can't think of others offhand.
[01:53] <Kisain> is there anything that can open .rar
[01:53] <jordanau> Kisain, unrar
[01:53] <dcraven> alvaro_: For harddrives I think it is, but for optical drives I think it is not.
[01:54] <jordanau> Kisain, it is on the winrar website
[01:54] <dcraven> alvaro_: hdparm will tell you if it is enabled or not, given a device.
[01:54] <mcquaid> i think it should be. recompiling
[01:54] <ignas> how to find to what package given file belogs ?
[01:54] <jordanau> Kisain, it might be in repositories i dont know
[01:54] <Thorrn4> hello!! does ubuntu come with PHP support? for making websites and such?
[01:54] <dcraven> Thorrn4: It's in the repos, of course.
[01:55] <jordanau> Thorrn4, hello
[01:55] <mcquaid> i'd rather avoid all this though, i'm donig it mainly cause i can't keep the nvidia driver installed
[01:55] <Kisain> ok
[01:55] <Kisain> it is in the repositorys
[01:55] <lexxan> IIIEars, what do u want lol
[01:55] <dcraven> mcquaid: It pops out on you?
[01:55] <mcquaid> well i was getting random lockups with the ubuntu nvidia pkg, then i downloaded an earlier version from nvidia and it won't survive a reboot
[01:55] <dcraven> there's the bot man himself!
[01:55] <joha1> hello my dear ubuntu friens is it somebody here how have used festival speech?
[01:55] <mcquaid> works fine for the existing session then X craps out
[01:55] <IIIEars> I really think your bot is cool can i help with it?
[01:55] <Thorrn4> hello jordanau! for some reason I do not remember your sn...
[01:56] <thoreauputic> ignas: dpkg -S  (capital S ) but only for installed packages
[01:56] <alvaro_> do you know what is the configre archive for activate dma?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> ignas: elsae install apt-file
[01:56] <IIIEars> gather links, type something?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> *elase
[01:56] <thoreauputic> bah
[01:56] <DanglyBits> dcraven: I went to dowload section and found a tar.gz but how do i load that into ubuntu?
[01:56] <thoreauputic> else
[01:56] <pepperpot> When I try to view an attachment from Mutt, often firefox complains that it can't find the tmp file. I think it's a timing issue. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I believe that the tmp file gets erased after mutt finishes invoking firefox
[01:56] <jordanau> Thorrn4, you said hello so i did, i dont know you either ")
[01:56] <jordanau> :)
[01:56] <jordanau> thoreauputic, do you french press?
[01:57] <Thorrn4> :D
[01:57] <mcquaid> well i try this cust kernel and see if it solves any issues for me
[01:57] <pepperpot> french press is gey coffee?
[01:57] <mcquaid> bbl
[01:57] <dcraven> DanglyBits: I have no idea what you are talkin' about dude. ;)
[01:57] <thoreauputic> jordanau: too early in the morning... ;)
[01:57] <IIIEars> Okay - :)
[01:57] <Kisain> i have a question about tdual booting?
[01:57] <jordanau> thoreauputic, too much work?
[01:57] <ignas> thoreauputic, thank you very much\
[01:58] <thechitowncubs> are there any advantages to use the 686 kernel?
[01:58] <jordanau> pepperpot, you can say what you want about my friends and family but dont diss my coffee :D
[01:58] <DanglyBits> dcraven: trying to install mambo..went to mamboserver.com..found dlowload section...mambo file is in tar.gz format..how do i install that into ubuntu?
[01:58] <Kisain> i have grub set to do so but it won't
[01:58] <pepperpot> jordanau, i was trying to make a funny by alluding to thoreauputic's typo
[01:59] <jordanau> pepperpot, i know
[01:59] <Thorrn4> so how are u doing jordanau
[01:59] <amonkey> i can't get sftp to work in gftp, and trying to specify the path to sftp-server makes it think it's logged into a remote comptuer but actually just show my home folder
[01:59] <pepperpot> jordanau, it funneh
[02:00] <dcraven> DanglyBits: Did you look here? --> http://tinyurl.com/ck3b2
[02:00] <jordanau> Thorrn4, well
[02:00] <DanglyBits> dcraven: no..thats what im looking for...thanks
[02:01] <dcraven> DanglyBits: no problem.
[02:02] <Kisain> ok now how do i use winrar?
[02:02] <karljp> you don't?
[02:02] <Kisain> oh
[02:02] <Kisain> weait huh??
[02:02] <Kisain> wait8
[02:02] <Kisain> *
[02:03] <karljp> you can get rar/unrar from unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files
[02:03] <karljp> unrar-nonfree - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)
[02:03] <Kisain> um ok
[02:03] <karljp> what is your end goal kisain?
[02:04] <Kisain> to open and install in cedega a game
[02:04] <Kisain> it is a 2 part archive
[02:04] <karljp> arrrh, get your warez on!
[02:04] <thoreauputic> Kisain: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[02:05] <spiderworm> Kisain: how well does cedega work on hoary?
[02:05] <Kisain> yes wonderfully
[02:05] <thoreauputic> Kisain: you need the multiverse repository
[02:05] <ignas> why ubuntu got libiconv-ruby yet has not libiconv-dev ?
[02:05] <Kisain> i have it alredy
[02:06] <Kisain> i have unrar alredy
[02:06] <Kisain> installed trough syn
[02:08] <amonkey> spiderworm: works fine for me (cedega that is)
[02:08] <amonkey> spiderworm: well enough to run steam and hl2.
[02:08] <spiderworm> amonkey: frequent crashes?
[02:09] <Bachus9000> Is there a way to create a single panel that has two rows of stuff on it?
[02:09] <spiderworm> Bachus9000: gnome or kde?
[02:09] <thoreauputic> Bachus9000: make two and move one
[02:09] <dcraven> ?? unrar
[02:09] <[uhelp] > unrar: To unrar files, install the "unrar-nonfree" package located in the multiverse Ubuntu repository.
[02:10] <Bachus9000> Gnome.  Yes, I did make two and move them, but then they come up in the opposite order I'd like them. :/
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Bachus9000: I just did it - drag the 2nd one with middle button
[02:10] <mkde> does anyone know if there is a way of getting evolution to use a particular mail account as default for specific contacts? it would be much appreciated, thanks!
[02:11] <Kisain> so how do i open the files
[02:11] <Bachus9000> Yeah, I know.  It works fine until you log out and log back in.  Then when they load they come up in the wrong order. :)  I want the panel with the Applications menu to appear above the second one (which at the moment just has the task list on it).  GNOME will consistently put the task list above the other panel.
[02:13] <thoreauputic> Bachus9000: did you save your session?
[02:14] <Bachus9000> It's been a while since I first set it up, but I think I did...Let me try. :)  brb.
[02:14] <DanglyBits> what repos can i use to ensure hoary is as up-to-date as possible??
[02:15] <hybrid_goth> DanglyBits: up to date as possible period equals breezy
[02:15] <hybrid_goth> Hoary they will add new packages if and when needed
[02:15] <DanglyBits> breezy is a little too buggy
[02:15] <dcraven> DanglyBits: Backports?
[02:15] <mkde> DanglyBits, you just need the security and hoary-update sources
[02:15] <DanglyBits> yes
[02:15] <DanglyBits> mkde: what lines are added to source.list?
[02:16] <hybrid_goth> its sources.list
[02:16] <mkde> DanglyBits, they should be in there already, its just a question of uncommenting them
[02:16] <DanglyBits> mkde: thanks
[02:16] <mkde> np
[02:17] <mkde> DanglyBits, assuming that by "up to date" you mean secure.
[02:17] <hybrid_goth> ?? partition
[02:18] <Bachus9000> Yay, that solved it. :)
[02:18] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:18] <hybrid_goth> how can i add a partition to add a distro without deleting the ubuntu one and without parted
[02:19] <thechitowncubs> How do I access a passworded share through nautilus?
[02:19] <mkde> hybrid_goth, what's wrong with parted?
[02:19] <thoreauputic> hybrid_goth: good luck
[02:19] <hybrid_goth> mkde: well i type primary ext3 then i get lost
[02:19] <Burgundavia> hybrid_goth, you gparted
[02:19] <Burgundavia> s/you/use
[02:19] <dcraven> hybrid_goth: do you have a free partition? If so, probably your new distro has a tool that can take advantage of it. Like Ubuntu did when you installed it.
[02:19] <hybrid_goth> mkde: where do i put start and where do i put end
[02:20] <mkde> hybrid_goth, that's up to you :)
[02:20] <mkde> hybrid_goth, gparted is nice as Burgundavia says
[02:20] <hybrid_goth> ok ill do it and give u the results
[02:20] <mkde> hybrid_goth, you'll need a livecd with gparted on it tho
[02:20] <karljp> gparted is fairly nice
[02:21] <Hackmo> hey all, anyone able to help me with my problems?
[02:22] <karljp> no.
[02:22] <x_or> Can someone offer me advice on how to use mail properly on my new ubuntu system.  I have postfix installed and accepting mail.  I can use the "mail" program, but I cannot figure out how to use Thunderbird.  Do I need to use fetchmail first or something?
[02:22] <mkde> Hackmo, you need to tell us what they are
[02:22] <karljp> try telling tbird to look at a local mail store, instead of a remote pop server?
[02:23] <Hackmo> mkde: sorry, was just making sure someone was awake before I got typing them all out
[02:23] <tbird> eh
[02:23] <Bachus9000> Has anyone else had difficulty with xcompmgr's -C flag?  It doesn't seem to have any effect on the GNOME panel.
[02:23] <hybrid_goth> Kackmo: someone is always awake
[02:23] <x_or> karljp:  OK, I thought I tried all possible settings, but I will look again.
[02:23] <mkde> Hackmo, the best technique is to ask the question and wait, even if you're on a small channel
[02:23] <x_or> I am still confused as to what a movemail account does.
[02:23] <dcraven> x_or: I think you'll need fetchmail if you are going to be fetching mail from a remote POP or IMAP server.
[02:23] <mkde> Hackmo, eventually someone replies!
[02:23] <x_or> Postfix is running on the same machine as my thunderbird client.
[02:23] <karljp> dcraven: depends what he wants to do :)
[02:23] <Hackmo> mkde: When I click on a torrent link on http://snarf-it.org/?snarf=details&id=125312 firefox closes, any idea why?
[02:24] <x_or> So, I don't think it is using POP or IMAP.
[02:24] <dcraven> karljp: Yeah. I'm making assumptions again.
[02:24] <hybrid_goth> Hackmo: happened to me too
[02:24] <x_or> It seems to me the "mail" program pulls the files from the local mail spool, and then moves them into my local store.
[02:24] <x_or> I am not exactly sure how it all works, honestly.
[02:24] <x_or> This is what I conjecture.
[02:24] <Burgundavia> Hackmo, so, cannot replicate
[02:24] <hybrid_goth> brb
[02:24] <mkde> Hackmo, works for me
[02:24] <Hackmo> hybrid_goth: How did you fix it?
[02:26] <karljp> dcraven: normally two things people want to do, run postfix, and be running a real mailserver for their domain, and letting people pop mail off their machine (if they really wnat to do this, they don't normally need much help)
[02:26] <karljp> and 2) run fetchmail to pop mail to local, and then run various clients to read mbox locally.
[02:26] <karljp> I'm not entirely sure why you really want to do either,
[02:26] <karljp> but some people have their reasons.
[02:27] <x_or> I suppose part of the problem is that I cannot for the life of me get IMAP+SSL to work.  The server is up, but my normal user password is not accepted, so I am not sure whether it uses a different password file, or what.  Restarting imapd doesn't help.
[02:28] <dcraven> karljp: I gotcha.
[02:29] <Hackmo> I've got another problem aswell, sometimes programs just close by themselvs
[02:29] <hybrid_goth> Hackmo: havent yet
[02:30] <Hackmo> I tried starting them in the terminal and I the only error message I get is segmentation fault
[02:30] <Hackmo> hybrid_goth: oh ok
[02:30] <hybrid_goth> if i get anything ill tell you
[02:30] <hybrid_goth> ;)
[02:30] <Hackmo> hybrid_goth: thanks
[02:31] <hybrid_goth> np its all about community juss pass it on :D
[02:31] <hybrid_goth> if i already have a swap partition will i need another for the other distro
[02:32] <dcraven> hybrid_goth: no
[02:32] <hybrid_goth> i.e. can ubuntu and gentoo share swap
[02:32] <hybrid_goth> ok
[02:32] <hybrid_goth> dcraven: so all i need is space to put gentoo
[02:33] <dcraven> hybrid_goth: yep.. You might even share your /home partition!
[02:33] <ShadowRage> how do I write an iso file directly to cd using nautilus
[02:33] <ShadowRage> right click and burn or what?
[02:33] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: yup
[02:34] <ShadowRage> better be :X
[02:34] <tremblay> Newbie question: How can I tell if glibc is installed on my machine if it's doesn't show up in Synaptic?
[02:34] <dockane> a simple question: may i expect immediate rendering/refresh from my system, when there is gnome booted and i am switching betwenn 5 tabs in ff ? (hoary on ibm intellistation, 1x p3 800, 512 MB Rambus, 9,1 SCSI HD. Nvidia Quadro NV10Gl)
[02:34] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: works here
[02:34] <hybrid_goth> mkde: i did parted /dev/hda/ then primary partition type then ext3 file system then start at 3 end at 27 but it said unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition
[02:34] <aspro> Hello, what packages should i reinstall if my sound is borked
[02:34] <aspro> ?
[02:34] <thoreauputic> tremblay: if it wasn't, ubuntu wouldn't run
[02:34] <karljp> tremblay: cos it's called libc, not glibc
[02:35] <aspro> As in, it has stopped working alltogether, worked fine before
[02:35] <tremblay> Ah... thanks.
[02:35] <karljp> whatever you uninstalled that made it stop working?
[02:35] <hybrid_goth> aspro: do you have esd? alsa?
[02:35] <aspro> im running ubuntu hoary stock
[02:35] <aspro> esd and alsa i suspect
[02:36] <hybrid_goth> hmmm....
[02:36] <ShadowRage> thoreauputic: I have a cyberpower power99 UPS (no serial though, thrift store find) know the serial pinout by anychance?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: heh- no idea sorry
[02:36] <aspro> are they the only pacakages i could try reinstalling, or are there any ubuntu-specific packages in there?
[02:36] <maddler> anyone with a Creative Zen (micro)? :)
[02:37] <dcraven> dockane: That's not really all that simple... I'd say it should be fairly fast. "Immediate" may be pressing your luck though :)
[02:37] <foxiness> if some one ask u this Q " What is your favored linux magazine you ever read ?" what should your answer will be than please :) ?
[02:37] <Predius> what do you need, maddler?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> aspro: try sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[02:37] <maddler> Predius... was trying to understand what's the best program to manage it :)
[02:38] <Predius> ah, ok.
[02:38] <aspro> the problem persists over reboots, but okay :)
[02:38] <thoreauputic> aspro: I doubt that your problem has anything to do with which packages are installed
[02:38] <dcraven> foxiness: I haven't found one I like yet.
[02:38] <maddler> Predius... using Gnomad2 right now...
[02:38] <hybrid_goth> what kind of partition type should i use
[02:38] <thoreauputic> aspro: killall esd is worth a shot too
[02:38] <hybrid_goth> primary logical extened?
[02:38] <aspro> thoreauputic, I doubt it too, but i was hoping to get whateever ha changed back to how it was after install :)
[02:39] <aspro> ive tried esd
[02:39] <dockane> dcraven, my subjective "feeling" is, that it is far to slow for this system, since my thinkpad (p3 800,192 Mb Ram, 8 mb s3) isn't _that slow
[02:39] <foxiness> dcraven, please when you find one tell me about it
[02:39] <thoreauputic> aspro: consult the logs
[02:39] <dockane> dockane, the rest of the system is reacting pretty directly
[02:39] <aspro> which?
[02:39] <foxiness> dcraven, what u read than "now" ?
[02:39] <dockane> dcraven,
[02:40] <ShadowRage> thoreauputic: how do I md5sum the disk?
[02:40] <dcraven> foxiness: I haven't read much of it, but I do look forward to reading the Free Software Magazine (www.freesoftwaremagazine.com).
[02:40] <hybrid_goth> could i use the ubuntu disk to add a partition? and just stop after it adds one?
[02:40] <dcraven> foxiness: I don't really read Linux mags as a habit. Or mags of any kind really.
[02:41] <karljp> therea re linux mags
[02:41] <karljp> ?
[02:41] <foxiness> dcraven, aha i will check this now
[02:41] <karljp> what do they say?
[02:41] <hybrid_goth> lol
[02:41] <hybrid_goth> karljp: google tux magizine
[02:42] <hybrid_goth> /i/a/magazine
[02:42] <foxiness> dcraven, if u are not read a magazine than what u do ?
[02:42] <thoreauputic> karljp: there are quite a few linux mags
[02:42] <karljp> are they as full of quality journalism as the general pc mags?
[02:42] <thoreauputic> karljp: Linux Journal, linux format...
[02:42] <thoreauputic> karljp: heh - they are usually better
[02:42] <hybrid_goth> tux is a big n00b mag
[02:42] <dcraven> foxiness: hehe.. I hang out in this channel, read academic papers, and write software.
[02:43] <flammy> I'm a total newbie, but I am trying to find a package that can synch with a Dell DJ, anybody got any ideas??
[02:43] <thoreauputic> karljp: sometimes rather technical
[02:43] <foxiness> dcraven, i see :) "Keep the great work up"
[02:43] <p0m> Stupid O/T question, but HD15 is the same as DVI right?
[02:43] <joha1> hello everybody
[02:43] <joha1> I can't get festival speech to give me any sound:(
[02:44] <foxiness> karljp, i think format linux
[02:44] <foxiness> karljp, or linux format :)
[02:44] <dockane> is there anybody inhere with hoary on a p3 system and would like to run bashmark as a favor me (to compare) ?
[02:44] <sm> alright.. why is my screen suddenly going into blank idle mode every 30 seconds :/
[02:44] <aspro> hmm, can you do a reinstall of ubuntu without it killing any data, ro do you think config problems will carry over from a reinstall?
[02:44] <sm> look! it did it again!
[02:45] <foxiness> thoreauputic, what your favored magazine?
[02:45] <hybrid_goth> aspro: yea juss add a new partition delete the partition and you are sol
[02:45] <thoreauputic> foxiness: when I read linux magazines, Linux Format
[02:45] <rcmiv> what is this:
[02:45] <rcmiv> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[02:45] <rcmiv> from synaptic
[02:46] <dcraven> aspro: I'm not sure you can not lose data *and* overwrite configs at the same time.
[02:46] <thoreauputic> rcmiv: could be a problem on the server
[02:46] <aspro> dcraven, bummer
[02:46] <foxiness> thoreauputic, nice "me too" :)
[02:46] <foxiness> today i found this http://www.lpmagazine.org/en/modules/news/
[02:46] <rcmiv> that's what I figured
[02:46] <rcmiv> thanks for confirming
[02:46] <aspro> computer without any sound sucks :(
[02:46] <dcraven> aspro: What is it that is messed up? You can typically "dpkg-reconfigre" it to regenerate a config file.
[02:46] <dcraven> biab
[02:47] <dockane> systemwatch tells me that ff is using 126 MB of ram for 3 (in words: three) opened tabs, is that realistic ?
[02:47] <cyphase> hey
[02:47] <aspro> dcraven, sound is dead
[02:47] <foxiness> aspro, sure its "sucks :("
[02:47] <aspro> worked fine, played a dodgy avi in totem, then... sound dead
[02:47] <thoreauputic> dockane: most of that is cache and buffer
[02:47] <joha1> somebody how have used festival ? or know a chanel for this subjekt?
[02:47] <SerriaRomeo> that live cd rocks, now i just have to figure out how to connect to the internet with it, and i'll be well on my way to replacing windows for good.
[02:47] <cyphase> does anyone know where mysql stores database info in ubuntu?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> dockane: it uses less than that in real terms
[02:47] <karljp> joha: ahh, you want to use a fairly esoteric package on linux?
[02:47] <karljp> and it didn't work out of the box?
[02:48] <karljp> and the docs were no good?
[02:48] <Jet2k5> heh I finally learned how to start apps faster with this prelinking :)
[02:48] <karljp> ahhh, smell the sweet sweet smell of "go to hell newbies, read the source or die"  Isn't linux fun?
[02:48] <joha1> cyphase: have the same quastion
[02:48] <cyphase> lol
[02:48] <Cowlike-away> what is prelinking? static linking you mean?
[02:48] <usynic> cyphase: /etc/mysql/my.cnf will tell you
[02:49] <a_monkey> if i try and burn a powerpc install iso to a cd-r with hdiutil, i get this: "*** malloc[1687] : error for object 0x1808a00: Incorrect checksum for freed object - object was probably modified after being freed; break at szone_error
[02:49] <a_monkey> Bus error"
[02:49] <a_monkey> can anybody help?
[02:49] <cyphase> thanx usynic
[02:49] <dockane> thoreauputic, i see. have you got any idea how to tune up refreshing the screen i.e. after a task switch or switching tabs in ff ? i take something about a second on my system and my eyes can fallow the screen rebuild from up to down
[02:49] <usynic> cyphase: np
[02:49] <hybrid_goth> dockane: ff = fx?
[02:49] <thoreauputic> dockane: hmm - sounds a bit odd
[02:49] <Jet2k5> Cowlike-away: dunno but it's supose to start stuff faster :)
[02:49] <dockane> hybrid_goth, Firefox
[02:49] <Jet2k5> like firefox and such
[02:50] <hybrid_goth> dockane: ok do you want to manually refresh?
[02:50] <thoreauputic> dockane: is tha machine under load in some other way?
[02:50] <dockane> thoreauputic, no nothing
[02:50] <rcmiv> this ubuntu is generally quite pleasant.  the 1st linux distro to get both my ethernet and sound on install..impressive
[02:51] <rcmiv> but the servers for apt-get seem to be down occasionally
[02:51] <hybrid_goth> yea
[02:51] <hybrid_goth> weird
[02:51] <ShadowRage> thoreauputic: how do I md5sum the disk?
[02:51] <rcmiv> or else I am doing something wrong -
[02:51] <thoreauputic> dockane: and your graphics card is properly configured?
[02:51] <dockane> hybrid_goth, what do you mean with "manually refresh" ?
[02:52] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: use md5sum <file>
[02:52] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: everything is a file in *nix
[02:52] <dockane> thoreauputic, nVidia Corporation NV10GL [Quadro]  (rev 10), glxgears works
[02:52] <foxiness> if u have time to see somthing see this somthing cool if you have time to see http://desktop.vidalinux.com/index.php?full=1&set_albumName=album04&id=VLOS_1_1_preview1&option=com_gallery&Itemid=32&include=view_photo.php
[02:52] <dockane> thoreauputic, tuxracer runs fine too except a few clipping errors
[02:53] <joha1> rcmiv: synaptic is the best in ubuntu !
[02:53] <ShadowRage> thoreauputic: md5sum md5sum.txt
[02:53] <ShadowRage> 2daf318f41313714cd9819dd09129a08  md5sum.txt
[02:53] <hybrid_goth> dockane: do you want a script to refresh every so often or do you wanna refresh your self
[02:53] <thoreauputic> dockane: I don't know the answer to your issue, sorry
[02:53] <ShadowRage> thoreauputic: I wanna make sure I got a proper burn
[02:53] <rcmiv> johal: I agree, I was lumping synaptic in with "apt-get"
[02:53] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: compare it to the text you downloaded for the CD
[02:54] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: it's usually in the same place you downloaded it
[02:54] <rcmiv> trying to do sambe right now, and can't do install.  perhaps my repositories are off
[02:54] <ShadowRage> thoreauputic: I just did that and got the md5sum of the md5sum file.
[02:54] <ShadowRage> thoreauputic: how do I compare the md5sum
[02:55] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: you run md5sum on the iso, not the file ....
[02:55] <rcmiv> foxiness: that looks interesting...
[02:55] <anto9us> can I do an install from the live cd?
[02:55] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: either the iso file or the disc itself. You can do a diff if you like on the comparison, or just eyeball it
[02:56] <ShadowRage> thoreauputic: I dont think you're getting what I'm saying
[02:56] <goldfish> anto9us: nope
[02:56] <ShadowRage> thoreauputic: there's an md5sum.txt file on the iso
[02:56] <thoreauputic> ShadowRage: why are you asking me? Ask the cahnnel
[02:56] <ShadowRage> it has a list of all the packages
[02:56] <thoreauputic> *channel
[02:56] <anto9us> ty goldfish :)
[02:56] <goldfish> np :)
[02:56] <hybrid_goth> anto9us: not yet but they will prolly have the option sometime b/c the intrest in it is sky rocketing
[02:57] <karljp> bit of a downer to download 1.2gig isn't it :)
[02:58] <Kisain> can vmware play games?
[02:58] <eruin> get cedega
[02:58] <mjr> Kisain, not really
[02:58] <Kisain> i have it
[02:58] <karljp> depends what you mean by game.
[02:59] <Kisain> dam
[02:59] <Kisain> ragnarok
[02:59] <g14> vmware is way to slow for gaming
[02:59] <Kisain> it's an rpg
[02:59] <bpuccio> Kisain: from what I've been told, VMWare emulates a very non-gaming 3D card, giving the nested OS not much power to do anything with
[02:59] <anto9us> anyone here had successful experience with ubuntu on Dell Inspiron 9100 or similar?
[02:59] <Kisain> thats what i thought
[03:00] <Kisain> so cedega would be my best bet
[03:00] <g14> yep
[03:00] <eruin> wine might also work
[03:00] <eruin> if the game is too old for cedega
[03:00] <Cowlike-away> anto9us, i use kubuntu on a dell inspiron8200
[03:00] <Kisain> kk
[03:00] <rcmiv> i have done wc2 and aoe on win98 installed in qemu
[03:01] <rcmiv> win95, actually, scuse
[03:01] <anto9us> any problems in particular Cowlike-away?
[03:01] <Cowlike-away> anto9us that's what i'm using right now, actually
[03:01] <Cowlike> oops... no longer away :)   no, it works great
[03:01] <rcmiv> Kisain: which rpg?
[03:01] <dcraven> VMWare doesn't do 3d.
[03:02] <dcraven> At least it didn't last summer.
[03:02] <SerriaRomeo> could someone please point me towards a faq or a file that will tell me how to configure my internet connection, since the server requires i log in before allowing me browse the net?
[03:02] <anto9us> Cowlike: what about suspend to ram, suspend to disk isn't so important to me but does it work?
[03:02] <SerriaRomeo> it's wireless dsl, not dialup.
[03:03] <dcraven> SerriaRomeo: This might help? --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto
[03:03] <Kisain> ragnarok
[03:03] <Kisain> aero client
[03:04] <rcmiv> yeah, if it's 3d forget it
[03:04] <Bachus9000> Has anyone else had luck with xcompmgr's -C option?  Even after using it I still get shadows around the gnome panel.
[03:04] <Kisain> i think it's kinda 2d maby
[03:05] <_chavo> Kisain, it needs directx 3d support
[03:05] <Kisain> damn and vmware don't have it
[03:05] <Kisain> so cedega it is
[03:06] <karljp> anto9us, suspend to ram works,
[03:06] <karljp> I'm like you, I couldn't care less about suspend to disk
[03:06] <karljp> however I've had serious lockup problems with suspend to ram if the wireless is active,
[03:06] <karljp> which I've not resolved as of yet.
[03:06] <phxguy> anyone know how i can view my logs?
[03:06] <P0ldy> /var/log?
[03:06] <karljp> and it won't automatically enter suspend to ram just by pressing the power button briefly.
[03:06] <karljp> I need to run a script from /etc/acpi
[03:07] <phxguy> I seem to remeber that ubuntu came with a log viewer util but I dont seem to have it any longer
[03:07] <anto9us> karljp: you running on an Inspiron?
[03:08] <karljp> yeah, 8600
[03:08] <phxguy> P0ldy: I was hoping for some kinda frontend or utility
[03:08] <P0ldy> karl: having similar issues here, i6000.
[03:08] <karljp> I need to play with it a bit more yet,
[03:08] <karljp> there's some stuff in the docs about how to disable wireless first,
[03:08] <P0ldy> phxguy: ah, not sure then.
[03:08] <_chavo> Bachus9000, try restarting gnome-panel -> killall gnome-panel
[03:08] <karljp> but seeing as it locks me up, I need to set aside some proper time to work on it.
[03:09] <nickrud> phxguy, I think it's system log under system tools
[03:09] <karljp> but I have had suspend to ram work flawlessly
[03:09] <karljp> before I got the wireless working
[03:09] <karljp> it came back to life beautifully.
[03:09] <karljp> not nearly as painless to use as windows however.
[03:09] <phxguy> nickrud: Yeah but like I said  I dont seem to have that utility anylonger
[03:10] <spiderworm> does ubuntu come default with a firewall?  if so how do i configure it?
[03:11] <Bachus9000> _chavo: I've done that several times.  That merely keeps other windows from overlapping the panel.  It does nothing about the shadows.
[03:11] <Graben> no
[03:11] <karljp> spiderworm, perhaps you need to consider what exactly you are firewalling.
[03:11] <g14> spiderworm: The ubuntu firewall sits in the background by default and puts the computer in listen only mode
[03:11] <karljp> or what exactly you wish to achieve
[03:11] <nickrud> phxguy, it's in the package gnome-utils
[03:11] <g14> spiderworm: Use synaptic and get firestarter from multiverse
[03:11] <phxguy> ah-ha thanks nickrud
[03:11] <dcraven> spiderworm: It does not. But if you want one, firestarter seems popular.
[03:11] <tolstoy> anyone here suddenly have a problem printing to a postscript printer from firefox?
[03:12] <anto9us> what's the default python version that ubuntu 5.04 comes with?
[03:12] <tolstoy> I see the solution in the actual printout: gs -q -sDevice=pswrite, etc, etc, but is there a setting somewhere OTHER than firefox to fix this?
[03:12] <spiderworm> karljp: I need to open up a port I suppose so that I can connect to mysqld running on my ubuntu box from other machines
[03:12] <foxiness> rcmiv, if u stil intrested see this http://www.users.monornet.hu/linux/gtk.html
[03:12] <gunny> anto9us,  2.41
[03:12] <karljp> then it should jus tbe open.
[03:12] <Burgundavia> ?? firewall
[03:12] <[uhelp] > firewall: A nice gui to configure a firewall is Firestarter, which is in universe
[03:13] <karljp> as has been mentioned, there is no default firewalling
[03:13] <karljp> but by default there are no services either.
[03:13] <darkaudit> why would firestarter keep blockin connections from a port I've set to be open?
[03:13] <ShadowRage> also, how do you burn audio cd's with nautilus?
[03:13] <Burgundavia> ShadowRage, you don't
[03:13] <anto9us> gunny: do you know, is it easy to install python 2.3 as default?
[03:13] <Burgundavia> ShadowRage, you need gnomebaker or graveman
[03:13] <spiderworm> karljp: no services?  so mysqld isnt running as a service on my ubuntu box?
[03:13] <g14> gnomebaker is the best
[03:13] <ShadowRage> Burgundavia: meh, they need to create a way to burn audio cd's
[03:13] <karljp> it is if you installed it
[03:14] <gunny> anto9us,  not through ubuntu's repos I do't think
[03:14] <karljp> but mysql wasn't installed by default
[03:14] <Burgundavia> ShadowRage, there is something in the works for breezy
[03:14] <spiderworm> karljp: i installed mysql as part of mythtv
[03:14] <tolstoy> damn, the firefox fix doesn't work (or at least what it prints instead of my output)
[03:14] <Burgundavia> ShadowRage, something called serpentine
[03:14] <dcraven> anto9us: 2.3 is also in apt.
[03:14] <ShadowRage> Burgundavia: and if there are any non-cd track files (eg, non audio files) the disk is turned into a hybrid
[03:14] <anto9us> dcraven: I can install alongside? I need it for zope
[03:15] <nickrud> darkaudit, it shouldn't, I've been using it for years, off and on, and it's running my firewall now
[03:15] <Burgundavia> ShadowRage, serpentine is a pure audio cd solutin
[03:15] <ShadowRage> ah
[03:15] <phxguy> which logs has the messages from boot-up
[03:15] <karljp> spiderworm: then you should just already be able to access the mysql from remotely.
[03:15] <ShadowRage> I mean, this would be a good idea
[03:15] <Burgundavia> drag and dtop
[03:15] <karljp> (unless mysql needs any setup to make it listen to remote callers)
[03:15] <spiderworm> karljp: i must be doing something wrong then
[03:15] <karljp> well, does mysql need any additional config to listen to remotes?
[03:15] <karljp> I have a feeling it might, but I don't know for sure.
[03:16] <anto9us> can I use debian testing apt sources with ubuntu?
[03:16] <spiderworm> karljp: i'm checking it out in #mysql, thanx
[03:16] <Burgundavia> ShadowRage, http://s1x.homelinux.net/projects/serpentine
[03:16] <dcraven> anto9us: Yes. I have both installed.
[03:16] <karljp> anto: maybe
[03:16] <karljp> some of the work, some don't
[03:17] <dcraven> anto9us: Be careful if you mix repositories.
[03:17] <nickrud> spiderworm, netstat -tl will tell you what's listening and to whom
[03:17] <anto9us> dcraven: yeah, I have to pin and prioritise, right?
[03:17] <spiderworm> ooh cool thanx
[03:18] <dcraven> anto9us: /usr/bin/python is just a symlink to /usr/bin/python2.4. There is also a /usr/bin/python2.3 as well if you would rather use that.
[03:19] <dcraven> anto9us: Yes. Pin and prioritise, but I suggest you use sparingly as problems have been reported by mixing repos.
[03:19] <anto9us> more like I will have to than rather in order to get my application server running, thanks dcraven
[03:19] <spiderworm> nickrud: doesnt look like mysqld is listening, thanx for the help
[03:19] <nickrud> spiderworm, np
[03:20] <dcraven> anto9us: Well if it's just for one app, you could always start it with a script that runs python2.3 instead of python, or edit its init script. That might be a better idea than changing the default symlink permanently.
[03:20] <nickrud> spiderworm, netstat -ul is another listening test, just not as useful, except when it is :)
[03:21] <anto9us> dcraven: one of the problems is installing psycopg to connect to postgresql database, can be tricky, I managed to get it all up and running with debian sarge though
[03:24] <dcraven> anto9us: there is a python2.4-psycopg package. Would that be of use?
[03:24] <dcraven> anto9us: python-psycopg depends on 2.4 it seems, not 2.3.
[03:25] <dcraven> anto9us: But I don't know anything about it.. I'm just looking at dependancies.
[03:25] <anto9us> does it include zpsycopgda too dcraven?
[03:26] <anto9us> I need it to connect my zope application to postgresql
[03:26] <nickrud> anto9us, a couple of ubuntu developers have said we can try pulling from unstable, the one thing I tried didn't work though.
[03:27] <tjs> how can I tell what device in /dev/ some hardware is hooked up to?
[03:27] <dcraven> anto9us: there is a zope2.7-psycopgda package that will bring in python2.3-psychopg, which in turn will bring in python2.3.
[03:28] <usynic> tjs: what kind of hardware?
[03:28] <dcraven> anto9us: I'd suggest that it might work as expected right out of the box for you.
[03:28] <anto9us> dcraven: excellent! :)
[03:28] <tjs> a scsi 1u exabyte autoloader
[03:28] <tolstoy> ah. seems in the printer tool, you can select the "advanced" tab and have the filter setting convert PS to level 2.  Thanks guys! ;)
[03:28] <usynic> tjs: check dmesg
[03:28] <tjs> usynic, ahh thanks :)
[03:29] <cyphase> ahhh..
[03:30] <tjs> uugh, dmesg is full of firewall msgs
[03:30] <ShadowRage> how do I stop ubuntu from spamming my terminals with system messages?
[03:30] <cyphase> y isn't php working on ubuntu? it was earlier, but i uninstalled apache and reinstalled, and now its not
[03:30] <cyphase> lol
[03:30] <anto9us> thanks guys, I'm on 35% of my download of install cd and feel confident things will go ok
[03:30] <cyphase> anyone have any suggestions
[03:30] <cyphase> ?
[03:30] <ShadowRage> I keep getting debug messages from the system
[03:31] <dcraven> ShadowRage: Did you run a command from the terminal recently that is still maybe running in said terminal?
[03:31] <billy> how do I enable a root account?
[03:31] <dcraven> ?? root
[03:31] <[uhelp] > root: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:31] <skora> billy, sudo -s
[03:31] <skora> if you want to stay in root.
[03:31] <billy> thanks
[03:31] <skora> but its suggested to do so only when necessary
[03:31] <skora> welcome, thats my name
[03:31] <skora> ^_^
[03:31] <tjs> crazy..
[03:32] <ShadowRage> dcraven: nope
[03:32] <nickrud> tjs, try  grep xabuy /var/log/dmesg, or some variations to cut the clutter
[03:32] <tjs> there is one autoloader, but it comes up as two devices..
[03:32] <ShadowRage> does it with all of them suddenly
[03:32] <ShadowRage> pissing me off
[03:32] <billy> I want to admin the computer from root account so I dont have to keep sudo-ing
[03:32] <g14> billy
[03:32] <dcraven> ShadowRage: Close that terminal and open another one.
[03:32] <g14> There is an easier way
[03:32] <ShadowRage> dcraven: does it in new terminals
[03:32] <mcquaid> hello i can't seem to get the nvidia binary to stick after a reboot
[03:33] <mcquaid> i had the nvidia glx pkg installed and it was fine but i was getting random lockups
[03:33] <dcraven> ShadowRage: Hmm.. I've never gotten a message in a terminal. Do you know what they are relating too? It may be serious..heh
[03:33] <mcquaid> on my other distro i've used 66.29 without issue so i uninstalled the pkg and installed the nvidia binaries but they wont stay on a reboot
[03:33] <ShadowRage> dcraven: just mounting messages
[03:33] <nickrud> ShadowRage, you mean on the console?
[03:34] <dcraven> ShadowRage: errors?
[03:34] <mcquaid> basically the x server fails saying no screens found, if i reinstall it's fine again until next reboot
[03:34] <ShadowRage> dcraven: isnt doing it now that I completely restarted gnome terminal
[03:34] <ShadowRage> it was all in any new terminals I opened in gnome-terminal
[03:34] <ShadowRage> syslogd messages
[03:34] <mcquaid> i thought it might be a rivafb issue so i recompiled the kernel but same thing
[03:34] <ShadowRage> kept pissing me off
[03:34] <mcquaid> i've never had any issues with nvidia before trying ubuntu
[03:34] <ShadowRage> okay, now, how do I add a cd to the list of apt repositories?
[03:35] <thundrcleeze> Is there a way to force firefox and most other programs to not recognize my ink jet as a postscript printer?
[03:35] <usynic> mcquaid: I was having trouble too.... make sure you remove the restricted modules, nvidia-glx, and then reinstall the .run package
[03:35] <nickrud> thundrcleeze, all linux printing is to postscript, cups will translate it to your printer.
[03:36] <mcquaid> i not sure if i saw this correctly but i believe when i had the nvidia pkg installed, there was an entry for nvidia /etc/rcS.d/
[03:36] <tritium> usynic: why are you advising him to do that?
[03:36] <dcraven> mcquaid: When you say they "don't stay" does that mean the module doesn't load on boot?
[03:36] <thundrcleeze> nickrud, okay.  How can I make cups to translate it?
[03:36] <usynic> tritium: because he said he downloaded the one off the site.
[03:36] <tjs> http://rafb.net/paste/results/I5j5eh99.html <- the relevent dmesg output
[03:36] <mcquaid> dcraven, it attempts to load the nvidia module but X fails saying no available screens found
[03:36] <thundrcleeze> nickrud, it works fine in Abiword, but not in OOo or firefox.
[03:36] <tjs> it doesnt seem to have a /dev entry?
[03:36] <tritium> the restricted-modules and nvidia-glx packages are the preferred way
[03:37] <XTCboarder> is there a plugin for gaim that allows me o have camera and audio conversation?
[03:37] <XTCboarder> i can't find anything on google
[03:37] <usynic> tritium: I agree... but if he said they didn't work...
[03:37] <mcquaid> usynic, i noticed those restricted modules, but when i flag that pkg for removal it wants to remove the kernel as well
[03:37] <skora> XTCboarder, im pretty sure that gaim doesn't have support for that yet :(
[03:38] <mcquaid> can someone who currently has the nvidia pkg installed tell me if there is a nvidia script in /etc/rcS.d
[03:38] <usynic> mcquaid: so what happened when you used the restrictecd modules?
[03:38] <skora> [for the camera] 
[03:38] <nickrud> thundrcleeze, I'm not sure what the problem is, 00o and epiphany are working here, on my crappy printer, which takes all my cycles, which is why I'm hanging around here, cuz it doesn't take many cyles
[03:38] <skora> audio - im not sure
[03:38] <XTCboarder> is there a plugin for gaim that allows me o have camera and audio conversation?:(
[03:38] <tritium> mcquaid: have you inspected /var/log/Xorg.0.log at all?
[03:38] <XTCboarder> !
[03:38] <XTCboarder> :(
[03:38] <g14> XTCboarder: gaim-vv
[03:38] <mcquaid> tritium yes, the error isn't much help
[03:38] <XTCboarder> thx
[03:38] <XTCboarder> cool
[03:38] <XTCboarder> :)
[03:38] <dcraven> mcquaid: there is no script in that directory.
[03:39] <tritium> mcquaid: what was it?
[03:39] <XTCboarder> MSN not supported. << :p
[03:39] <thundrcleeze> g14, where would one find gaim-vv?
[03:39] <g14> google
[03:39] <thundrcleeze> It doesn't seem to be in any repo I have.
[03:39] <XTCboarder> http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/
[03:39] <|QuaD-> hey, whats the difference beteen galeon and epiphany? both seem to be the "official gnome webbrowsers
[03:39] <|QuaD-> "
[03:40] <tritium> thundrcleeze: you'll have to build it from soure, along with some other stuff
[03:40] <thundrcleeze> tritium, what fun!
[03:40] <tritium> :)
[03:40] <g14> checkinstall does debs I believe
[03:40] <raydogg> Is there a step by step guide on rebuilding the exact kernel that is distributed on the ubuntu cd ?
[03:40] <mcquaid> i see this: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[03:41] <raydogg> everytime i try to recompile it i have an issue, and it is much smaller ( 1.2 megs ) vs. the 4 meg one ubuntu ships with
[03:41] <usynic> mcquaid: and you modprobed nvidia?
[03:41] <billy> this sudo crap is burning me up, i cant edit .conf files
[03:41] <dcraven> |QuaD-: Epiphany is the GNOME browser officially as far as I know. Galeon used to be.
[03:41] <anto9us> |QuaD-: I think epiphany is the latest official one
[03:41] <tritium> mcquaid: looks like you need to have the nvidia module loaded
[03:41] <server> id justlike to get filetransfers to work in gaim
[03:41] <mcquaid> nope never modprobed nvidia, never have with other distros, i've always just run the binary installer and made sure xorg.conf was set correctly
[03:42] <usynic> mcquaid: and what happens if you modprobe nvidia?
[03:42] <|QuaD-> anto9us, dcraven: does that mean that galeon isn''t in development anymore?
[03:42] <karljp> server: I can't get them to work either :)
[03:42] <server> its terrible
[03:42] <karljp> do you know why it is?
[03:42] <tritium> mcquaid: you should at least check to make sure it's loaded.  If it's not, you probably want to add it to /etc/modules
[03:42] <gp_aaron> how do I add things to the places --> computer area?
[03:42] <server> no, i wish.
[03:42] <server> maybe a filed bug?
[03:43] <dcraven> |QuaD-: Not at all. I think it is still being actively developed. GNOME just changed their focus.
[03:43] <chavo> |QuaD-, galeon is still being developed
[03:43] <usynic> mcquaid: also, I know I went through exactly what you're going through.  Unfortunately restricted modules and the official nvidia package put the nvidia.ko in different places
[03:43] <mcquaid> tritium, could you give me whats listed regarding nvidia in your /etc/modules?
[03:43] <usynic> so it's possible you have two different modules installed....
[03:43] <tritium> mcquaid: just "nvidia"
[03:43] <|QuaD-> dcraven, chavo so what are the differences between them? screenshots seem very similar
[03:44] <mcquaid> hmm, ok ill try that
[03:44] <usynic> mcquaid: if I were you, I'd find /lib/modules -name "*nvidia*" -exec rm {} \;
[03:44] <dcraven> |QuaD-: Mostly interface differences. You can try them both and lose the one you like least.
[03:44] <chavo> |QuaD-, There are slight differences, especially in the bookmark handling
[03:44] <usynic> and then reinstall the nvidia-glx and restricted modules.
[03:44] <|QuaD-> dcraven, chavo do either use mozilla ff extensions?
[03:44] <chavo> I haven't run gnome in a while, but I prefer galeon.
[03:44] <dcraven> |QuaD-: I don't think so.
[03:45] <tritium> mcquaid: usynic gave you some good advice there.  Please try it.
[03:45] <nickrud> |QuaD-, no, they don't
[03:45] <chavo> you can use some extensions,
[03:45] <mcquaid> usynic, thx for the suggestion as well, i'm going to try simply adding nvidia to modules first then i'll try that
[03:45] <chavo> but not any that use xul.
[03:46] <tritium> mcquaid: the problem with just adding that line to /etc/modules is you may still have the module from the nvidia installer installed, rather than the one that matches your kernel version from restricted-modules
[03:46] <nickrud> chavo, I tried a few, did you get adblock to work?
[03:46] <octavious> got a question, i have an installation CD running and it fails at the base install, because of a corruption on the cd...is there a way to install the base system from the online apt-repositories?
[03:46] <|QuaD-> chavo: hmmm, none that use xml
[03:46] <karljp> maybe, I had those problems too, I just reburnt the cd.
[03:46] <|QuaD-> chavo: don't they all
[03:46] <karljp> cdrws are awesome
[03:46] <chavo> |QuaD-, most do yes.
[03:46] <mcquaid> i dont understand this restricted modules what is the nvidia driver in there when ubuntu has a sep package for nvidia-glx
[03:47] <nickrud> |QuaD-, it's been a while since I used galeon, but epiphany is light and fast compared to firefox
[03:47] <chavo> nickrud, adblock will work yes.
[03:47] <Justin> nvidia-glx is not a module.
[03:47] <lost> anyone know where to get those random login quotes when u ssh to your box?
[03:47] <nickrud> chavo, I'll have to run firefox for a while then, thanks
[03:47] <|QuaD-> do things like shockwave and java work with epiphany?
[03:47] <tritium> mcquaid: linux-restricted-modules contains the kernel module, nvidia-glx contains a module for X
[03:47] <octavious> lost: fortune
[03:48] <octavious> that and a modified /etc/profile, most likely
[03:48] <dcraven> Adblock works in Epiphany?? Cool.
[03:48] <lost> oct- fortune? Is that whats its called?
[03:48] <nickrud> |QuaD-, yes, everything that gecko does, epiphany does
[03:48] <usynic> lost: apt-get install fortune-mod
[03:48] <usynic> lost: there's also add on packages... apt-cache search fortune
[03:48] <|QuaD-> nickrud: never used either, considering ditching ff
[03:48] <tritium> mcquaid: and it's important that the kernel module, nvidia, come from l-r-m with the same version as your running kernel, i.e. linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[03:48] <chavo> dcraven, sort of.
[03:48] <Raskall> Interesting. Someone has attempted to hack into my server on ssh. Luckily I am running an updated ssh-server that requires 2K pubkey auth to log in.
[03:48] <dcraven> chavo: Well that doesn't sound very promising ;P
[03:49] <karljp> !define hack
[03:49] <mcquaid> yes i currently have the same kernel and restricted
[03:49] <nickrud> |QuaD-, the only thing I miss from firefox is save a group of tabs as bookmarks in a folder
[03:49] <karljp> oh no! I got packets to my ssh port!
[03:49] <mcquaid> but currently booted in a custom kernel i just compiled to see if i could solve some of these issues
[03:49] <karljp> some0neZ ahckzr0ing m3!
[03:49] <lexxan> nickrud, what browser do you use
[03:49] <tritium> mcquaid: what does "modinfo nvidia" tell you?  We want to verify that the nvidia module comes from l-r-m, and not the binary installer from nvidia
[03:49] <nickrud> epiphany
[03:49] <|QuaD-> nickrud: i have some extensions a really like that i will probably miss if i switch
[03:49] <lexxan> ah
[03:49] <lost> usynic- do u know if they have that for RHEL 4.0?
[03:49] <mcquaid> and i was curious and just mounted my other linux install of deb sid, i have no mention of nvidia in that /etc/modules
[03:50] <lexxan> it in packages?
[03:50] <Raskall> karljp: a lot of entries in auth.log with failed login attempts of usernames that has never existed on my server.
[03:50] <nickrud> lexxan, ?
[03:50] <usynic> lost: you got me... I've never used rhel
[03:50] <chavo> Adblock just uses a stylesheet to hide certain elements. You can use the stylesheet with any browser.
[03:50] <MightyF> cisco curriculum is driving me nuts
[03:50] <g14> Use the AllowUser and PermitRootLogin directives in your sshd_config. That alone will stop most brute force hack attempts
[03:50] <tritium> mcquaid: maybe you were using the "nv" driver
[03:50] <mcquaid> no currently i'm using nv just to have access to X
[03:51] <chavo> I use it with konqueror, just don't have the right-click functionality.
[03:51] <mcquaid> it says this: filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[03:51] <nickrud> lexxan, if you mean did I use the ubuntu package, yes, along with extensions
[03:51] <Raskall> g14: I do that and require pubkey-auth.
[03:51] <mcquaid> which isn't good as i'm currently in my custom kern
[03:51] <tritium> mcquaid: and the vermagic?
[03:51] <tritium> well, if you're using a custom kernel, then you need to build your own nvidia kernel module
[03:51] <lexxan> is it faster than firefox
[03:51] <mcquaid> i did that by downloading the nvidia binaries
[03:52] <nickrud> lexxan, on a slower machine, there is no comparison
[03:52] <usynic> mcquaid: what does uname -a say ?
[03:52] <dcraven> lexxan: what isn't? heh
[03:52] <usynic> mcquaid: and removing the restricted modules won't hurt your custom kernel, though you may need to backup your menu.lst
[03:52] <tritium> mcquaid: do you really need a custom kernel?
[03:52] <nickrud> plus, it's footprint is a lot smaller, meaning less swap on a slower drive :)
[03:52] <mcquaid> damn i'm tired i rebooted and let it choose default, so i'm currently in the stock 686 ubuntu kern
[03:52] <mcquaid> Linux mcquaid 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:27:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:53] <lexxan> I like opera but I hate the ads ;/
[03:53] <mcquaid> no i don't care about a custom really, just seeing if it could solve this problem
[03:53] <nickrud> epiphany *just works* lol
[03:53] <MightyF> i like firefox but i can't play videos in it for some reason
[03:53] <g14> I like firefox and haven't seen an ad in a few weeks
[03:54] <mcquaid> so ignore the custom issue, right now i'm in the stock kernel but i can't get the binary to stick after a reboot
[03:54] <nickrud> pretty good intelligent search of bookmarks and history from the location bar
[03:54] <MightyF> and that aggravates me
[03:54] <tritium> mcquaid: if that's the case, you're best off using a matching kernel and linux-restricted-modules
[03:54] <g14> I can play videos in ff since I installed realplayer
[03:54] <g14> nonfree
[03:54] <MightyF> really?
[03:54] <karljp> I like firefox, but can someone tell me how to make it open a mailto: link in an existing thunderbird?
[03:54] <MightyF> only realplayer videos?
[03:54] <karljp> it just keeps offering me a profile chooser
[03:54] <usynic> mplayer-plugin will do that...
[03:54] <nickrud> yeah, non free realplayer and mozilla-mplayer work real well in epiphany
[03:54] <mcquaid> that's what i am using, well that's what i have installed anyway
[03:54] <usynic> too bad it's mostly broken...
[03:55] <mcquaid> still not clear on this restricted modules, why can't i remove that and use the nvidia binary?
[03:55] <dcraven> MightyF: Do you have mozplugger installed?
[03:55] <MightyF> nickrud, hmmm, maybe I'll try epiphany, whats the drawback?
[03:55] <mcquaid> if i try to remove the restricted modules it flags the kern for removal as well
[03:55] <Raskall> hmm.. it seems it's a microsoft user that has loads of windows ports open that has tried to hack my ssh.
[03:55] <MightyF> dcraven, I think so, do you mean the mozilla-mplayer plugin?
[03:55] <|QuaD-> nickrud: are there more extensions for epiphany then are in the ubuntu package?
[03:55] <nickrud> MightyF, no firefox extensions, but I can live without them
[03:55] <usynic> mcquaid: it only flags a kernel that apt installed... it won't touch your custom kernel
[03:56] <p0m> karljp: I don't think it's possible to use an existing thunderbird window. The closest thing you can do is to tell Thunderbird profile chooser not to ask at startup.
[03:56] <mcquaid> yes i realize that but if i'm going to ignore my cust kernel i just installed and sitck with the stock how do i isntall binaries from nvidia's site?
[03:56] <dcraven> MightyF: I have both installed actually, but I'm not sure which one successfully plays the movies...hehe. I certainly don't have any realplayer installed.
[03:56] <lexxan> mcquaid, The ubuntu ones won't work?
[03:56] <karljp> p0m: no, it must be. the mozilla-thunderbird script comments even say that is what it is trying to do.
[03:56] <tritium> mcquaid: you'd need to grab linux-headers-$(uname -r) and build it.
[03:56] <mcquaid> they were giving me random lockups
[03:56] <lexxan> ah
[03:56] <tritium> mcquaid: you're better off just using the ubuntu ones
[03:56] <karljp> and I know people for whom it "just works" on debian
[03:57] <lexxan> mcquaid.. take a look at the 3rd link
[03:57] <MightyF> dcraven, dcraven mplayer has a loading thing that you'd notice
[03:57] <lexxan> might help
[03:57] <lexxan> ?? nvidia
[03:57] <[uhelp] > nvidia: to setup your xorg binary nvidia driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto -OR- http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver -ALSO- http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
[03:57] <p0m> karljp: Well, aside from that way, I'm clueless. As it is, that way works fine anyhow.
[03:57] <mcquaid> i've read there are some issues with 7174 and xorg so i wanted to go to 66.29 which i've been using for months without issue in my other distro
[03:57] <tritium> Which nvidia chip, mcquaid ?
[03:57] <mcquaid> gf4 ti 4200
[03:57] <lexxan> You could probably use the sid one.
[03:57] <lexxan> or testing.
[03:58] <nickrud> |QuaD-, sorry was away for a sec: yes, there are some (including an adblock) but they are not built in the ubuntu package
[03:58] <mcquaid> i've been using it in deb sid without issue for 2 years
[03:58] <karljp> p0m: what do you mean,that way works fine?
[03:58] <lexxan> actually ya use testing
[03:58] <dcraven> MightyF: That's true isn't it... I just watched a bunch of trailers at apple.com last nite and there was no buffering screen. I know the screen you mean though.
[03:58] <chavo> mcquaid, I was getting lockups with 7174, while using the composite extension
[03:58] <g14> composite isn't stable yet
[03:58] <mcquaid> i haven't even mucked with the composite extension
[03:58] <p0m> karljp: It doesn't load up a full instance of thunderbird, iirc. All it does is load up the dialog to send a message.
[03:59] <p0m> karljp: Which is handy when you don't have thunderbird open.
[03:59] <karljp> well, it works fine right now if thunderbird isn't open.
[03:59] <MightyF> dcraven, installing using snaptic right now.  Gonna try out the mozplugger
[03:59] <Parkway> Erm..anyone know where I can go to get the newest libc6 ?
[03:59] <karljp> but I want it to work when thunderbird is open.
[03:59] <karljp> parkway: what do you need it for?
[03:59] <Parkway> Trying to use Synaptic but it just wants to keep the older(?) one
[03:59] <Parkway> libxvidcore4:  Depends: libc6 (>=2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13 is to be installed
[03:59] <dcraven> MightyF: Try it at apple.com/trailers. I'm curious to see what exactly is playing these things.. heh
[03:59] <Parkway> Trying to get Mplayer and Xmms to work
[04:00] <lexxan> Is opera 7 any good?
[04:00] <Parkway> right now they both just lock up when I try to use them
[04:00] <mcquaid> so basically does one have to stick with ubuntu nvidia pkg? meaning is there no way for one to use an older nvidia binary if one wants
[04:00] <Parkway> Tho I dunno if thats my nVidia drivers :(
[04:00] <chavo> mcquaid, I'm using 6629
[04:00] <Parkway> <--linux newb
[04:00] <usynic> mcquaid: I'm doing ubuntu's on one machine, the nvidia binary on another
[04:00] <MightyF> dcraven, is that only for mozilla, or firefox too?
[04:00] <usynic> mcquaid: I bet you just have some packaging conflicts or something
[04:00] <nickrud> chavo, you mentioned a place I can look at editing the firefox adblock file, could you give the location?
[04:00] <mcquaid> chavo, how did you install 6629?
[04:00] <karljp> parkway, don't try and use packages for mplayer
[04:00] <karljp> it's more pain than you want.
[04:01] <karljp> just build it from source.
[04:01] <karljp> and don't worry about version this or that
[04:01] <XTCboarder> my foot itches
[04:01] <chavo> Just used the installer from nvidia.
[04:01] <XTCboarder> apt-get newfoot
[04:01] <XTCboarder> :(
[04:01] <Parkway> ok..so how can I get it to work? lol
[04:01] <dcraven> MightyF: mozilla-firefox is listed as suggested for mozplugger, so I'm guessing both.
[04:01] <Parkway> Like I said, both mplayer and xmms lock up when I hit the Play button
[04:01] <anto9us> karljp: look at the -remote option for thunderbird
[04:02] <mcquaid> Parkway try xmms with esd selected for output
[04:02] <MightyF> dcraven, how do you set it up?  I can't find it
[04:02] <Parkway> mcquaid, how do I do that?
[04:02] <dcraven> MightyF: I did nothing. Try just restarting firefox.
[04:03] <usynic> mcquaid: you might also try istalling the esd-alsa libs, so that esd actually uses alsa
[04:03] <p0m> XTCboarder: apt-get footcream?
[04:03] <karljp> ahh the remote option.  yes I can see that, but basically that would be for sticking in a script, along with ping to see if it's already running
[04:03] <karljp> before you know it, I'll have rewritten the existing mozilla-thunderbird script
[04:03] <karljp> which _should_ work, but isn't.
[04:03] <XTCboarder> :p
[04:04] <jazzka> hi!
[04:04] <mcquaid> yes thx usynic
[04:04] <jazzka> how can I know if I running nfs as client? or maybe as server?
[04:04] <mcquaid> Parkway, i haven't installed xmms yet here, and i don't plan to, so it's hard to tell you how to get there
[04:04] <mcquaid> but if you look it's easy, it's in preferences
[04:05] <mcquaid> by default it's using oss, change it to esd
[04:05] <mcquaid> i don't use xmms cause beep is a xmms clone but gtk2
[04:05] <karljp> (except beep took away doublesize for godknows what reason)
[04:05] <usynic> er... yeah, talking to the wrong person, lol.
[04:05] <usynic> oh well.
[04:05] <karljp> (and it won't let me just resize it either)
[04:05] <MightyF> dcraven, mplayer is in mine :)
[04:05] <Parkway> wish I knew what gtk2 was but, thanks giving it a shot now ;0
[04:06] <MightyF> dcraven, and it works! :)
[04:06] <Parkway> ;)
[04:06] <dcraven> MightyF: So you can play now? Cool!
[04:06] <mcquaid> sorry gtk2 is basically what gnome uses
[04:06] <Parkway> Ah works!!
[04:06] <Parkway> Thanks mcquaid!
[04:06] <dcraven> MightyF: I'll go check again.. I don't remember that buffering screen though...
[04:06] <karljp> mplayer probably isn't using esd either.
[04:06] <mcquaid> so beep-media players menus takes on the look and feel of gnome
[04:06] <mcquaid> np
[04:06] <MightyF> dcraven, yeah, i had mplayer buffer screen
[04:06] <Parkway> Would you say beep is better?  Im running gnome so..(might sound dumb)
[04:06] <karljp> beep is for most purposes identical to xmms
[04:07] <karljp> if you aren't seeing any problems with xmms, then there's probably little reason to change.
[04:07] <Parkway> 10-4
[04:07] <mcquaid> it's not really better, but just intergrates better, do you notice when you go to open a file in xmms that the file chooser looks somewhat foreign compared to the rest of gnome?
[04:07] <MightyF> dcraven, oops, don't hit back when watching the trailer, my firefox took a dump
[04:07] <Parkway> mcquaid; ya I do
[04:07] <karljp> mcquaid: filechoosers are far from consistent anyway :)
[04:07] <mcquaid> well with beep that will go away
[04:07] <dcraven> MightyF: No I'm not getting the buffering screen... And I just hit back.. haha. I wonder what is playing mine.
[04:08] <karljp> you have the gtk1 file chooser, the gtk2 file chooser, the qt one, the tk one, the custom X one, the custom Y one.
[04:08] <Parkway> Quick question:  is there an mp3 or music manager anyone recommends?
[04:08] <mcquaid> no but gtk1 apps (like xmms) stand out like a sore thumb in gnome
[04:08] <MightyF> dcraven, i uninstalled mozplugger and it works the same way
[04:08] <karljp> I still think that xmms's file chooser is FAR superior to what firefox is currently using :)
[04:08] <mcquaid> karljp, thats why i pretty much stick to all gnome (gtk2) apps
[04:08] <dcraven> MightyF: Interesting...
[04:08] <MightyF> dcraven, so i don't think my mozplugger is working yet
[04:08] <karljp> you don't find that rather limits your choice of apps mcquaid?
[04:08] <mcquaid> not really
[04:08] <dcraven> MightyF: It appears you don't need it to :)
[04:09] <mcquaid> the last qt app i was running was k3b and gnomebaker is coming along nicely
[04:09] <karljp> I guess my problem at the moment is that I don't have the apps I want period, let alone in a specific toolkit
[04:09] <mkde> does anyone know anything about gpg? I am having a massive issue, basically my keyring is gone: http://pastebin.ca/10786
[04:09] <MightyF> dcraven, i'd rather it run without crashing my browser, thanks :)
[04:09] <mcquaid> i hear ya, i felt that way for a bit, but found most of the stuff i wanted in gnome
[04:09] <dcraven> MightyF: Bah.. Technicalities.
[04:09] <karljp> find me my desktop mapping :(
[04:09] <mcquaid> like for ex. i used to use mplayer, but now use totem
[04:09] <MightyF> dcraven, ha
[04:10] <lexxan> totem is pimp.
[04:10] <drcode> Hi all
[04:10] <Parkway> MPlayer works now that changed it to esd output lol.  Whats up with that? I mean..whats OSS?
[04:10] <drcode> any one can help me with 3d card of nvidia
[04:10] <drcode> when I do vendor I see(glxinfo) I get SGI
[04:10] <drcode> and not nvidia any ideA?
[04:10] <karljp> you know how on windows, you just install a sound driver parkway?
[04:10] <karljp> and it just works?
[04:10] <nickrud> yeah, should be arrested
[04:10] <mcquaid> oss is the older sound system that's pretty much dead
[04:10] <Parkway> True
[04:10] <karljp> well on linnux, there are all these different ways of using the sound system
[04:10] <mkde> does anyone know anything about gpg? I am having a massive issue, basically my keyring is gone: http://pastebin.ca/10786
[04:10] <DonL> Parkway, thanks. I forgot about changing to that
[04:11] <karljp> and they don't like to play together
[04:11] <MightyF> Parkway, its an old sound system thats used by old programs.
[04:11] <karljp> and somethings think one of them should be the default.
[04:11] <karljp> and some think another should be the default.
[04:11] <karljp> and some try to use one for compatibility reasons
[04:11] <Parkway> Gotcha, thanks.
[04:11] <mcquaid> alsa is the new.  esd is the enlightened sound daemon. which basically attempts to share your card among apps/ system sounds
[04:11] <karljp> and others say screw compatibility, we want features.
[04:11] <karljp> so basicalyl consider yourself lucky that it's 2005
[04:11] <DonL> actually, I think I have mplayer using alsa
[04:11] <karljp> even 18months ago, getting sound in linux was an "experience"
[04:12] <Parkway> lol
[04:12] <mcquaid> and parkway your probably using alsa, so you should go in synaptic and install libesd-alsa
[04:12] <SeamusLP> karljp:  Sound in linux is actually very simple once you learn it...
[04:12] <nickrud> yeah, and the kernel people decided not to continue to deal with people that close drivers
[04:12] <karljp> (I shouldn't have to learn it)
[04:12] <mcquaid> as usynic suggested earlier
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> karljp: most of that depends on hardware though.. cheap hardware tends to be very bad
[04:12] <karljp> (I have speakers, I have mp3s, make the soudn come out)
[04:12] <Parkway> Ok mcquaid, will do
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> and badly suppored it
[04:12] <mcquaid> it will flag libesd for removal, let it
[04:12] <HrdwrBoB> karljp: I totally agree, that's the way ubuntu approaches it
[04:13] <karljp> and the way it should if it wants nongeeks to use it :)
[04:13] <SeamusLP> karljp:  On windows you have to learn how to do things as well.  There's a learning curve when you switch to a different OS.  Ubuntu tries to minimize it as much as possible...
[04:13] <mcquaid> i just want nvidia bin's working
[04:13] <karljp> what it wants or doesn't want is not my decision to make of course
[04:13] <DonL> I get most of what I learn right here
[04:14] <Parkway> I have an nvidia card, think I got the drivers instealled right.  Anyway to check that?
[04:14] <Parkway> installed even
[04:14] <karljp> do you have X?
[04:14] <mcquaid> try a 3d app
[04:14] <DonL> like tuxracer
[04:14] <Parkway> Dont think I even have one installed at the moment heh
[04:14] <mcquaid> glxgears will launch regardless if they are working or not but the fps reported is a good indicator
[04:14] <dell500> will this howto work with Ubuntu hoary? http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[04:14] <mcquaid> but ya tuxracer will let you know
[04:15] <Cowlike> anto9us, was that you asking about the inspiron 9100?
[04:15] <p0m> Parkway: glxgears
[04:15] <p0m> mcquaid: Beat me to it :)
[04:15] <DonL> or check out a gl screensaver and see how it looks
[04:15] <karljp> hmm, 2000fps?
[04:15] <nickrud> mcquaid, glxinfo | grep direct will tell you at least if you have direct rendering
[04:15] <anto9us> Cowlike: yes
[04:15] <karljp> you'd think it would look smooth at that rate
[04:15] <karljp> instead of jerking so much.
[04:15] <p0m> If you're using the firegl drivers you can use fgl_glxgears.
[04:15] <mcquaid> no it's jerking becuae vsync is off
[04:15] <Parkway> gears are turning
[04:15] <SeamusLP> And you're using free software.  Mr. Shuttleworth puts a good bit of money into making sure you have a good experience in linux.  Not many people will do that.
[04:15] <Cowlike> anto9us, well, unfortunately, neither swap to ram nor hibernate worked for me
[04:15] <MightyF> dcraven, still not working
[04:16] <karljp> cowlike: in what way is it failing?
[04:16] <nickrud> SeamusLP, i got your back on that one :)
[04:16] <mcquaid> karljp, try this before you launch glxgears export __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=1
[04:16] <Cowlike> anto9us, swap to ram came back with a black screen (although stuff was running) and hibernate crashed upon restart
[04:16] <anto9us> Cowlike: ah well, not the most essential thing, just a nice to have
[04:16] <mcquaid> but you only see fps of the refresh rate of your monitor, but thats a good thing
[04:16] <helio7> Can anyone highly recommend a 802.11g pcmcia wifi card that works with Ubuntu beautifully (no ndiswrapper)?
[04:16] <karljp> mcquaid: why would I not want to have that by default?
[04:16] <karljp> helio: we could, but where would you buy it?
[04:17] <mcquaid> i hear ya, i think it should be default
[04:17] <anto9us> Cowlike: did you try the lid switch on the swap to ram return?
[04:17] <karljp> half the time by the time you buy it, the next hardware rev has come out, and it's no longer the same.
[04:17] <mcquaid> vsync off should only be for benchmarking
[04:17] <SeamusLP> nickrud:  Not to mention us volunteers, eh?
[04:17] <mcquaid> on by default that is
[04:17] <karljp> hey, pretty gears
[04:17] <Cowlike> anto9us, the lid switch didn't work, although i tried turning it on in klaptop
[04:17] <karljp> but only 60fps
[04:17] <mcquaid> thats the current refresh rate of your monitor
[04:18] <mcquaid> you'll probably want to increase that
[04:18] <Cowlike> karljp: did you see how it failed?
[04:18] <helio7> karljp: where would I buy it? I don't understand the question... you mean it might _stop_ working with kernel changes or what?
[04:18] <anto9us> Cowlike: yeah, I think it has to be configured in the kernel module
[04:18] <SeamusLP> MightyF:  What problems are you having with mozplugger?  I got mine to embed totem and xpdf...
[04:18] <mcquaid> you'll have to put the monitor timings in your xorg.conf to get a higher refresh rate
[04:18] <karljp> helio: no, you might actually get lucky and get recommended a card, and buy it, and have it actually be the same card
[04:18] <karljp> a lot of people haven't been that lucky
[04:18] <nickrud> SeamusLP, I've been using the work of a huge number of volunteers for years now, and I prostrate myself ;-)
[04:18] <karljp> and have bought the same model, which has turned out to be new (and different) hardware
[04:19] <karljp> mcquaid: it's a laptop screen, so it's goign to stay at what it is
[04:19] <guruff> lo :) can i get rid of lvm and evms ?
[04:19] <jazzka> hi!
[04:19] <helio7> karljp: oh ok, I understand.  No top 3 brands you'd recommend I'd start with?  this list is a bit daunting http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz
[04:19] <mcquaid> well if thats its max, but 60hz bugs my eyes after awhile
[04:20] <Marble2> how can I make this damn process stop respawning itself
[04:20] <karljp> helio: the brand is unfortunately not a good indicator :(
[04:20] <will> I just installed ubuntu 5.04 and I'm really liking it, I'm having a strang problem though. My samba file transfers are really slow...anyone have any ideas?
[04:20] <karljp> same brand could be various chipsets across the brand, and even within a model
[04:20] <jazzka> I'm upgrading to hoary, and in the middle of the migration to XORG, dpkg finds an error and stop
[04:20] <karljp> it's hell out there.
[04:20] <lexxan> what's the opera equivalent of ctrl-l or ctrl-o in firefox/IE?
[04:20] <jazzka> what can I do?
[04:20] <nickrud> MightyF, you don't need mozplugger, use mozilla-plugin, it works better for movies
[04:20] <tritium> ells: hey man
[04:20] <Parkway> back in a few
[04:20] <Marble2> killall -9 is not working
[04:20] <Marble2> anyone?
[04:20] <nickrud> *mozilla-mplayer
[04:21] <will> has anyone had slow samba file transfers with ubuntu?
[04:21] <SeamusLP> Speaking of opera, has anyone else had problems with seg faults in the ubuntu build of opera 8?
[04:21] <usynic> ... and are automatically detected and set up by the ubuntu-installer
[04:22] <karljp> lexxan ctrl-f2 I believe?
[04:22] <mcquaid> brb
[04:22] <jazzka> is a good idea to remove XFREE and apt-get install Xorg?
[04:22] <PHPWannabe> Has anyone found a driver for a Lexmark z615 printer yet?
[04:23] <Parkway> Ya know its always somethin with me heh.  I get the ALSA output and set it up to use in XMMS.  Now it cant play.
[04:23] <karljp> (you shouldn't have changed anything)
[04:23] <MightyF> nickrud, where do i get mozilla-plugin?
[04:23] <Parkway> Just leave the output as esd?
[04:23] <karljp> why did they tell you to install libesd-alsa and remove libesd anyway?
[04:23] <karljp> I would have just left it as it was working
[04:23] <usynic> Parkway: what you gotta do is tell esd to use alsa, and xmms to use esd
[04:24] <karljp> which probably would have been already done, when it was working earlier
[04:24] <karljp> when he just changed xmms to use esd
[04:24] <SeamusLP> jazzka:  It may be worth a shot.  If I were you I'd keep a ubuntu hoary cd on hand and back up important data.
[04:24] <lexxan> I had to use libesd-alsa to get sound working on my other machine
[04:24] <tritium> esd should already be using alsa
[04:24] <Parkway> Ok, I just set it back on esd in xmms and its fine.  Ill leave it heh
[04:24] <tvon> Is there a simple way to re-run the Xorg configuration that happens on install?
[04:24] <MightyF> Parkway, do #3 on this and it won't matter what its on: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:24] <nickrud> MightyF, it's in multiverse, but you need a working mplayer, of course :)
[04:25] <MightyF> nickrud, I do
[04:25] <tritium> tvon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:25] <MightyF> nickrud, is it mozilla-plugin-vlc?
[04:25] <SeamusLP> Parkway:  The problem is that esd is a sound device hog
[04:25] <tvon> tritium: hrm,thanks
[04:25] <nickrud> MightyF, no mozilla-mplayer, 2.70-1ubuntu1
[04:25] <helio7> usynic: do you have an SMCg card? thanks for the recommend;
[04:25] <tvon> Anyone know what the ubuntu default level of...erm... the questions that dpkg asks you... is?
[04:25] <MightyF> Parkway, That link I gave you tones down esd so it doesn't hog the sound
[04:26] <MightyF> nickrud, I already have that, and it crashes firefox if i hit back.  its unstable
[04:26] <XTCboarder> does anybody know at what port bittorrent operates?
[04:26] <MightyF> nickrud, and i can't get mozplugger to work, grrr
[04:26] <Parkway> lookin into it now, thanks
[04:26] <nickrud> MightyF, let me see if it crashed epiphany
[04:26] <MightyF> XTCboarder, 6881-6889
[04:26] <MightyF> Parkway, no problem
[04:26] <XTCboarder> thx
[04:26] <MightyF> XTCboarder, but most times you can customize it
[04:27] <XTCboarder> but peers shoul be able to pass my firewall for downloading.....
[04:27] <XTCboarder> so i should use standard ports
[04:27] <XTCboarder> or not?
[04:27] <nickrud> MightyF, nope, no crash
[04:28] <MightyF> nickrud, oh well, silly firefox
[04:28] <tvon> XTCboarder: same ports should be NAT'd to you at your router or open on your fw or whatever
[04:28] <MightyF> nickrud, annoying though
[04:28] <XTCboarder> =)
[04:28] <XTCboarder> thx
[04:28] <Parkway> I love Open as root :)
[04:28] <XTCboarder> Open what?
[04:28] <Parkway> Sorry, rambling.
[04:29] <nickrud> mozplugger syntax is cruddy, good luck, I think seamus says he has his working
[04:29] <usynic> helio7: yeah, I've had both a pci and a pcmcia card
[04:29] <MightyF> XTCboarder, you can set your ports to whatever you want, just make sure your firewall recognizes those ports as ok and that your router forwards the port to you on the inside
[04:29] <usynic> helio7: never had a problem with either.
[04:29] <XTCboarder> ok
[04:29] <MightyF> nickrud, huh? syntax?  It pretty much said Install and it works
[04:29] <XTCboarder> i'll do that
[04:29] <helio7> cool; thanks usynic
[04:30] <Parkway> exit
[04:30] <XTCboarder> firewall is at "here"
[04:30] <usynic> helio7: they aren't exactly cheap, though... I paid $70+ for both of them
[04:30] <MightyF> SeamusLP, you have mozplugger working?
[04:30] <XTCboarder> so i just gotta open some stuff
[04:30] <nickrud> MightyF, /etc/mozplugerrc, and have fun, you need to match it to your software
[04:30] <MightyF> nickrud, fun! :)
[04:30] <SeamusLP> MightyF:  You don't get nav buttons with totem, but it works
[04:30] <skaller> anyone want to help with new install?
[04:30] <thr1ce> no
[04:30] <thr1ce> :P  ask away
[04:30] <helio7> usynic: perusing http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewCategory&localeCode=EN_USA&cid=5 atm
[04:31] <MightyF> SeamusLP, I don't use Totem, Totem is evil
[04:31] <skaller> lol
[04:31] <Marble2> why can I not friggin kill gam_server, it keeps spawning on me
[04:31] <SeamusLP> MightyF:  totem-xine is fantastic.
[04:31] <thr1ce> anyone break 150 days uptime yet?
[04:31] <usynic> helio7: yeah, just check prism54.org to make sure the exact card is supported
[04:31] <MightyF> Marble2, It might be designed to respawn if it gets killed, try kill -9 <number>
[04:31] <skaller> does AMD64 install image support nVidia and SATA drives?
[04:31] <Marble2> i tried kill -9
[04:31] <p0m> thr1ce: On what?
[04:31] <Marble2> i tried killall
[04:32] <Marble2> i tried killall -9
[04:32] <thr1ce> ubuntu
[04:32] <usynic> thr1ce: http://linuxhelp.homeunix.com/uptime.html
[04:32] <Marble2> it still friggin respawns
[04:32] <MightyF> SeamusLP, totem-xine?  And it works in firefox?
[04:32] <karljp> heh, I don't know anyone using a 64bit linux that is glad they did so.
[04:32] <MightyF> Marble2, no idea then
[04:32] <thr1ce> usynic, ubuntu?
[04:32] <usynic> thr1ce: sarge
[04:32] <karljp> man, why aren't there any big 2.5" harddrives
[04:32] <skaller> ubuntu
[04:32] <SeamusLP> MightyF:  Indeed.  Most sites with embedded movies work alright.
[04:32] <karljp> 100gig is about the limit it seems
[04:33] <Quest-Master> This is amazing
[04:33] <MightyF> SeamusLP, cool
[04:33] <SeamusLP> MightyF:  I just did apt-get install totem-xine, then downloaded the w32 codecs, and then found a good mozpluggerrc file
[04:33] <Quest-Master> Nautilus has crashed almost 3 times in the past 5 minutes
[04:33] <SeamusLP> MightyF: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17727&highlight=mozplugger
[04:33] <Quest-Master> I can't get anything done with a file manager this unstable.. :(
[04:33] <Quest-Master> Ok, never mind, 4th time now
[04:33] <Cowlike> almost 3 times? what, it just kind of stuttered the 3rd time?
[04:34] <thr1ce> nautilus isn't unstable
[04:34] <MightyF> SeamusLP, I just wish mplayer would work, I really like it
[04:34] <Quest-Master> It loves to crash whenever I right click a file
[04:34] <thr1ce> figure out what the problem is...it's NOT nautilus, otherwise none of us would be using gnome
[04:34] <SeamusLP> Quest-Master:  Nautilus is nice, but it's hundreds of thousands of lines of undebuggable crap.  I don't think it will ever change
[04:35] <Quest-Master> thr1ce: You really think all of the other people using Gnome out there have a set up like mine?
[04:35] <MightyF> SeamusLP, wow, that config file you're supposed to write from SCRATCH!?!?
[04:35] <Quest-Master> SeamusLP: Agreed
[04:35] <usynic> SeamusLP: it changed between 2.4 and 2.6 quite a bit :(
[04:35] <usynic> er.. the other smiley
[04:35] <usynic> IE, more than doubled in speed
[04:35] <SeamusLP> thr1ce:  I concur with Quest-Master.  Attempt to do anything "advanced" in nautilus and it may crash.
[04:35] <thr1ce> Quest-Master, no, that's why you have to tell us your problem; not just "I can't work with this unstable software"
[04:36] <skaller> lol
[04:36] <thr1ce> right clicking is advanced?  wow...my nautilus is a TANK
[04:36] <SeamusLP> thr1ce:  Tried to view the properties of an ogg file while thumbnails were still loading up... crashed.  Random crap like that
[04:37] <Quest-Master> Woot, crashed again..
[04:37] <thr1ce> mine works
[04:37] <thr1ce> what gnome?
[04:37] <nickrud> as much as I enjoy nautilus for general use, it does have it's moments. I've learned some things not to do.
[04:37] <Quest-Master> It tends to do this after I just have the window open for along time or are quickly switching through programs
[04:37] <Quest-Master> >:
[04:38] <Quest-Master> So, I'm doing a "killall nautilus" almost every few minutes
[04:38] <Quest-Master> Reminiscent of Windows Explorer days
[04:38] <nickrud> Quest-Master, once every couple of weeks for me, at most
[04:38] <SeamusLP> Quest-Master:  I've noticed that.  Usually I just click on restart nautilus and it comes right back up.  Slightly annoying.
[04:38] <anto9us> Quest-Master: do you have sound events enabled?
[04:38] <Quest-Master> anto9us: Nope
[04:39] <nickrud> I am irritated by having to reopen the folders i was working though
[04:39] <anto9us> Quest-Master: I had trouble, been ok since I disabled sound events
[04:39] <SeamusLP> nickrud, in general I don't have a problem with it unless I'm dealing with large amounts of thumbnails or music files...
[04:40] <nickrud> SeamusLP, pretty much my experience, when I am thumbnailing a bunch of new images, I find something else to do ....
[04:40] <MightyF> SeamusLP, firefox isn't recognizing mozplugger
[04:41] <XTCboarder> done
[04:41] <XTCboarder> this linux thingie shure does rock
[04:41] <nickrud> And, mouseover or not, nautilus is not a music player
[04:42] <Quest-Master> ... ok, I have no idea why Nautilus is doing this
[04:42] <Quest-Master> Launching it from a terminal now
[04:42] <XTCboarder> i've uptime of 2.3 days working with high load stuff and i still don't feel it :)
[04:42] <Quest-Master> And hoping it isn't something like a simple segfault
[04:42] <thr1ce> launch it from a terminal, and find your error
[04:42] <deang> I'm trying to setup VNCServer for an account other than root.  It is simply pointing the $vncUserDir to that users home directories .vnc file?
[04:42] <SeamusLP> MightyF:  is it showing up in about:plugins?
[04:43] <gp_aaron> XTCboarder, I run a server on a low amount of hardware, 512 ram, 2.4GHz celeron, and I have had uptime striaght for 4 months now, even through 2 power outages including one last week..
[04:44] <MightyF> SeamusLP, i didn't look, I looked for new menu items
[04:44] <XTCboarder> ;D
[04:44] <nickrud> gp_aaron, lol, low hardware
[04:44] <lexxan> I'm on a 1ghz.
[04:44] <gp_aaron> battery*
[04:44] <dell500> how do i change my root password?
[04:44] <gp_aaron> nickrud, its a celeron
[04:44] <XTCboarder> when i was con XP i'd have to reboot twice a day :p
[04:44] <lexxan> dell500
[04:44] <lexxan> ?? root
[04:44] <dell500> for some reason it's not working
[04:44] <[uhelp] > root: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[04:44] <nickrud> gp_aaron, so is mine, and it's slower than lexxan's
[04:44] <SeamusLP> MightyF:  When you use that configuration file you need to remove the .txt ... should just be mozpluggerrc
[04:44] <XTCboarder> i have a athlon xp 2000 + 256RAM333
[04:45] <XTCboarder> on a PCChips mobo << i gotta change that
[04:45] <lexxan> I'm getting pissed off
[04:45] <lexxan> I'm gonna go get a new cpu/mobo soon
[04:45] <lexxan> damn games are lagging
[04:45] <MightyF> SeamusLP, did it :)
[04:45] <XTCboarder> i don't play
[04:45] <dell500> well when i enter my password, it says please try again
[04:45] <XTCboarder> why u getting pissed lexxan ?
[04:45] <gp_aaron> i'm getting a ibook g4 with 1.256 ram
[04:45] <SeamusLP> MightyF:  also check out the about:plugins in firefox... should show up there
[04:45] <nickrud> I'm getting a new machine for the new X, I like old games
[04:45] <MightyF> SeamusLP, yeah, it shows up in about:plugins now
[04:46] <MightyF> w00t, thanks
[04:46] <lexxan> XTCboarder, My 1ghz w/ geforce 2 can't handle unreal tournament 99
[04:46] <nickoli> hey anybody wish to reccomend a good cd burning prog, k3b keeps crashing on me
[04:46] <XTCboarder> haha
[04:46] <lexxan> Sadly it runs better in windows
[04:46] <MightyF> SeamusLP, still using the mplayer plugin, i better uninstall that
[04:46] <lexxan> but I think a hardware upgrade will be in order
[04:46] <SeamusLP> MightyF:  here's a good place to test it... http://www.apple.com/trailers/
[04:47] <dell500> nm, got it
[04:47] <XTCboarder> i bought a Nvidia tnt2 with 32 ram only for seeing the funky mac screensaver on my box
[04:47] <XTCboarder> :p
[04:47] <lexxan> lol.
[04:47] <XTCboarder> anyway it was about 10 bucks
[04:47] <MightyF> SeamusLP, was just there, lol
[04:47] <deang> nobody with vnc configuration info here?
[04:47] <XTCboarder> as i don't play, i have never worried boaut having a good video card
[04:47] <lexxan> I got a 2500+ upstairs with a tnt2
[04:47] <lexxan> I dunno
[04:47] <lexxan> Maybe i should steal that box and put the gf2 in it
[04:48] <XTCboarder> :p
[04:48] <MightyF> SeamusLP, had to uninstall it, its cool now
[04:48] <XTCboarder> i want a bigger computer :(
[04:48] <lexxan> I don't think my mom will notice since she uses firefox
[04:48] <lexxan> and that's it
[04:48] <XTCboarder> !
[04:48] <XTCboarder> that's a waste
[04:48] <XTCboarder> my sister has a dell latitud cpi P2@400 mhz with 96 on RAM
[04:48] <XTCboarder> and she works ok with that
[04:48] <XTCboarder> on win98SE
[04:49] <lexxan> haha
[04:49] <lexxan> put ubuntu on it
[04:49] <XTCboarder> yo could sell both computers.. get an old dell for ur mom and buy yourself a gigabox
[04:49] <MightyF> SeamusLP, yay, browser doesn't crash anymore
[04:49] <XTCboarder> or maybe a car :p
[04:49] <nickrud> XTCboarder, don't do that, she'll kill you
[04:49] <XTCboarder> :p
[04:49] <lexxan> I got a nice truck :/
[04:49] <XTCboarder> i ain0t doing it
[04:50] <SeamusLP> MightyF:  Cool.  So far the only problem with totam-xine I've had is with a handfull of wmvs with messed up sound.  I just download those and play them in mplayer.
[04:50] <SeamusLP> ah, gone, heh.
[04:51] <nickrud> SeamusLP, so the mozpluggerrc uses totem in ubuntu?
[04:51] <XTCboarder> the only problem i have with sound is i can't hear stuff from vcd's
[04:52] <anto9us> XTCboarder: could be a codec problem perhaps
[04:52] <SeamusLP> nickrud that particular config file does...  Maybe you could read the mozplugger man page for awhile and figure out how to use mplayer
[04:52] <nickrud> SeamusLP, I'm agnostic, I'll try anything for a lark :)
[04:53] <nickrud> And, I learned it once, I'm not sure I want to go through it again for a lark
[04:53] <XTCboarder> yeah......
[04:53] <SeamusLP> well I'm certainly not going to when totem is working just fine
[04:54] <SeamusLP> And hopefully that totem / mozilla plugin will come out and we'll be able to get a progress bar
[04:55] <nickrud> yeah, I've read a bit about that. I do kinda miss unstable already, you never know what'll show up tomorrow :)
[04:55] <lexxan> There's a firefox totem plugin for breezy?
[04:56] <nickrud> no, I was wondering what the status was in debian unstable, probably not there
[04:57] <lexxan> check! :P
[04:57] <blujay> an apt-cache search for "mozilla plugin" doesn't find anything for totem
[04:58] <nickrud> yeah, it's still blue sky stuff, but, ircc, it's being done by cluefull people, so it'll show up someday
[04:58] <helio7> usynic: http://prism54.org/supported_cards.php shows only one SMC pci not pcmcia card as supported; am I misinterpreting?
[04:59] <delltony> hi anyone had any luck converting files to xvid format using mencoder i keep getting mplayer not compiled with libmp3lame and unfortunate for me i'm not good enough to know to compile mplayer with this support
[05:00] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: the problem is ubuntu stripped mp3 support out of everything.  you would have to install a non-ubuntu mplayer or recompile ubuntu's mplayer
[05:01] <p0m> Ubuntu didn't strip anything from anywhere. It was debian.
[05:01] <delltony> ok so just downoad the binaries and simply run ./configure ?
[05:01] <Quinn_Storm> debian's core packages -do- have mp3 support
[05:01] <Quinn_Storm> ubuntu's don't
[05:01] <delltony> well any way i can get the core package then?
[05:01] <p0m> Quinn_Storm: I keep getting told that, yet I can play mp3's fine on base ubuntu.
[05:02] <SeamusLP> Quinn_Storm:  That's funny, I'm playing mp3s in mplayer right now and I haven't recompiled anything
[05:02] <Quinn_Storm> p0m: you probably installed a package you didn't know you did
[05:02] <Quinn_Storm> SeamusLP: yeah you probably have the marrilat mplayer
[05:02] <sig> Quinn_Storm: yes it does
[05:02] <sig> I have a base install with no extra packages
[05:02] <sig> pure cd install with nothing else
[05:02] <p0m> Quinn_Storm: Highly unlikely, as the box wasn't even connected to the network until today.
[05:02] <delltony> Quinn_Storm, sorry to bother but where could read about recompiling the ubuntu mplayer. i know google but really sure what to search for
[05:02] <sig> I play mp3's
[05:03] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: I'm not sure the easiest way
[05:03] <delltony> hard way would be fine as long as i understand or have a walk thru
[05:03] <nickrud> sig, what player?
[05:04] <Quinn_Storm> btw, even if mplayer has mp3 decoding compiled in, mp3 encoding is a separate thing which is the libmp3lame is for
[05:04] <delltony> Quinn_Storm, in a nutshell if you don't mind how can i accomplish this :)
[05:05] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: make sure you have libmp3lame-dev installed, apt-get source mplayer, cd into it, dh_buildpackage (I think)
[05:05] <delltony> ok let me try and thanks
[05:05] <BLACKSTEALTH> hhi
[05:06] <BLACKSTEALTH> ddoes the new ubuntu live cd play wmvs?
[05:06] <SeamusLP> blackstealth:  Highly doubt it
[05:06] <jacquesmerde> why did ubuntu decide to use gstreamer?
[05:06] <BLACKSTEALTH> gah..
[05:06] <BLACKSTEALTH> hm..
[05:06] <BLACKSTEALTH> any live that does?
[05:06] <hector_> hello! nyone could help me with my usb printer permissions? Is there a way of not having to change the permissions of /dev/usb/lp0 each time I reboot in order to be able to print? If I don't do it I get a permission denied error
[05:06] <Amaranth> jacquesmerde: Because it's a part of the GNOME Desktop?
[05:06] <BLACKSTEALTH> how about movix2?
[05:07] <sig> http://johnvansickle.com/stuff/misc/encode.dv.xvid
[05:07] <delltony> hmm Quinn_Storm i see a problem i see no libmp3lame in synaptic :(
[05:07] <jacquesmerde> Amaranth: is it really? it cant be compiled without it?
[05:07] <Amaranth> BLACKSTEALTH: No Live CD will play WMV3 files. That would require the dll file from windows which is illegal to use without owning a copy of Windows that you aren't using.
[05:07] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: ok, hang on
[05:08] <Amaranth> jacquesmerde: It might be able to but it's no reccomended, why?
[05:08] <delltony> np
[05:08] <Quinn_Storm> try just liblame-dev
[05:08] <BLACKSTEALTH> hm.. great ok
[05:08] <BLACKSTEALTH> thanks
[05:08] <Amaranth> jacquesmerde: It's just a layer on top of either esd, oss, or alsa.
[05:08] <SeamusLP> blackstealth:  Your best bet would be to install ubuntu on a portable harddrive or something
[05:08] <jacquesmerde> sorry, major newb question, but i've followed the "How can i share my printer on my LAN" in the ubuntu FAQ, now how do i access the printer from another linux computer? do i just edit cups stuff? does it transmit it through ipp?
[05:08] <BLACKSTEALTH> clostest thing to that is my ipod
[05:09] <Amaranth> jacquesmerde: heh, no clue
[05:09] <hector_> anyone could help me with my printing problems, please?
[05:09] <speedy2782> is it possible to have macos run on a pc?
[05:09] <SeamusLP> blackstealth:  heh...  You know people have put linux on an ipod...
[05:09] <Predius> speedy2782, using PearOS
[05:09] <SeamusLP> blackstealth:  Personally I wouldn't try it
[05:09] <BLACKSTEALTH> same lol
[05:09] <speedy2782> what is pearOS?
[05:09] <BLACKSTEALTH> it might fry
[05:09] <BLACKSTEALTH> thanks
[05:09] <BLACKSTEALTH> good night all
[05:09] <Amaranth> speedy2782: Only with emulation with PearPC. It runs 10-40x slower than a low-end mac though. And that's only if you have a fast x86 machine.
[05:09] <benplaut> woohoo! just converted another person to Ubuntu :)
[05:10] <jacquesmerde> Amaranth: i have no clue either. i go to all the trouble of de-n00bing myself, but i completely forgot to learn about printing
[05:10] <Amaranth> jacquesmerde: I can't print either. :)
[05:10] <nickrud> hector_, if /dev/usb/lp0 is getting wrong permissions, it's probably a bug. check bugzilla.ubuntu.com and search for cups and see if someone lese has the problem
[05:10] <speedy2782> I have a 2.0 celeron laptop with 128 ram and shared video
[05:10] <speedy2782> using ubuntu
[05:10] <speedy2782> what are the chances that it would work at all
[05:10] <speedy2782> 10-40 times slower
[05:10] <hector_> nickrud thanks, I'll do that right now
[05:10] <Quinn_Storm> looking up now the -exact- commands for recompiling
[05:10] <Amaranth> speedy2782: It wouldn't work. At all.
[05:10] <speedy2782> that sucks
[05:11] <Nalioth> speedy2782, it is a PowerPC emulator for you to use
[05:11] <Amaranth> speedy2782: You need to feed it at _least_ 256MB dedicated to PearPC (you need 384MB or more).
[05:11] <Cowlike> can you install ubuntu without X? don't recall the install giving me that option
[05:11] <speedy2782> would it run on my 3.2 1gig
[05:11] <g14> Cowlike: the server install is the minimal install without x
[05:11] <Amaranth> speedy2782: PearPC will never be able to emulate a Mac good enough to make running OS X all the time usable.
[05:11] <nickrud> Cowlike, use the server install
[05:12] <Cowlike> thx
[05:12] <gp_aaron> Amaranth, no but cherryOS will </sarcasm>
[05:12] <nickrud> hector_, you still there?
[05:12] <delltony> Quinn_Storm, thanks
[05:12] <hector_> nickrud yes
[05:12] <SeamusLP> Amaranth:  Whats the address to your website?  I lost it yet again
[05:12] <nickrud> hector_, search also under udev on bugzilla
[05:12] <Nalioth> speedy2782, it does not run fast on any machine at this time
[05:12] <speedy2782> is there any desktop environments on linux the are close to macos x
[05:12] <Amaranth> SeamusLP: http://www.realistanew.com
[05:13] <hector_> nickrud I'll do, thanks
[05:13] <jacquesmerde> crikey, i can find info on getting OSFOO to print to the linux cups printer, for all os's EXCEPT linux
[05:13] <SeamusLP> Amaranth:  Aha, new menu editor.  Looks great.
[05:13] <nickrud> hector_, it's easy to point someone at a bug list :)
[05:13] <Amaranth> speedy2782: No, not really. If you've used OS X you know it's more than just a look. It's all the little details.
[05:13] <Nalioth> gp_aaron, yes, i would like to buy a box of CherryOS, the one with the free terabit network card free inside
[05:14] <Amaranth> speedy2782: GNOME is actually the closest, believe it or not.
[05:14] <speedy2782> I would really like the dockbar on gnome
[05:14] <speedy2782> but I can't seem to find one...and get it to work
[05:14] <ksnyder> i can't mount my cdrom drive when i try to do it like it says in the ubuntu guide i get the following error
[05:14] <ksnyder> ksnyder@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide
[05:14] <ksnyder> mount: /dev/scd0 is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[05:14] <gp_aaron> Nalioth, and they use anti-aging pills as packaging foam
[05:15] <Predius> Amaranth, the deal with OSX is the fact that it has perfect compability with its hardware
[05:15] <Predius> and the look, too
[05:15] <Amaranth> Predius: Not even that. Have you ever used OS X and iLife?
[05:16] <gp_aaron> does anyone know how to add items to the computer:/// area?
[05:16] <Amaranth> Predius: It could look like total shit and I'd still want to use it because of the details.
[05:16] <gp_aaron> iLife is drool worth
[05:16] <stryderjzw> Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone can help me diagnose a problem
[05:16] <gp_aaron> y
[05:17] <ksnyder> can anyone help me with my cd rom drive? i'm trying to upgrade to hoary, and when i put the cd in it just keeps making a clicking noise and never does anything
[05:17] <hector_> nickrud I found the bug reported as http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10037
[05:17] <hector_> nickrud no answer
[05:17] <Quinn_Storm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=111204 - adapt the info here to rebuild mplayer
[05:17] <ksnyder> when i boot it, it hangs at the sony screen and the cdrom makes a noise like it's trying to read it, but it justs loads as usual after about a minute
[05:18] <SiRrUs> hello
[05:18] <karljp> anyone know how to override reply-to and actually reply to the original sender in tbird?
[05:19] <Nalioth> i like using OSX cuz when i plug in a new firewire/usb device, it doesnt ask for drivers or nothing, "It Just Works(tm)"
[05:19] <karljp> the reply to is set to a list address, and I don't want to reply to the list
[05:19] <karljp> but "reply to sender only" still obeys the reply-to header
[05:19] <delltony> ok going to look now and i get an error when doing the apt-get source mplayer-586
[05:19] <stryderjzw> My Ubuntu won't boot all of a sudden and before it gets to login screen, it freezes and now it jumps between tty1 and tty7
[05:19] <nickrud> hector_, udev controls permissions on dynamic devices, look there too, there may be a fix
[05:19] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: try just apt-get source mplayer
[05:19] <Edgan> stryderjzw: X problems
[05:20] <Edgan> stryderjzw: you install nvidia or ati binary drivers?
[05:20] <delltony> i did that as well
[05:20] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: not sure then
[05:20] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I just did a shutdown yesterday
[05:20] <stryderjzw> Edgan: it was normal
[05:20] <gp_aaron> Linux will always be my server OS
[05:20] <delltony> delltony@bubbabox:~$ sudo apt-get source mplayer
[05:20] <delltony> Reading package lists... Done
[05:20] <delltony> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:20] <delltony> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_deb_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:20] <delltony> delltony@bubbabox:~$
[05:20] <gp_aaron> I had bad luck with panther server
[05:20] <IIIEars> uhelper - nvidia video card?
[05:20] <Edgan> stryderjzw: that doesn't mean much
[05:20] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: you need to apt-get update
[05:20] <p0m> delltony: Might want to update your lists :)
[05:21] <joshua___> Does hoary change firefox's font, or did I do something?
[05:21] <delltony> with the update?
[05:21] <delltony> as in apt-get update
[05:21] <joshua___> Doesn't make sense to change user preferences if it was the upgrade, imo
[05:21] <helio7> what's the advantage of a wifi card that's a/b/g vs b/g? does anyone need a?
[05:21] <stryderjzw> Edgan: Is there logs I can see to check wut's wrong?
[05:21] <Edgan> stryderjzw: maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:21] <delltony> same thing after running apt-get update
[05:22] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I can access recovery mode... so there's a good sign
[05:22] <benplaut> helio7: not really, but ABG cards usually excell in other areas, aswell... higher class models
[05:22] <Nalioth> Amaranth, you are a prince among men.
[05:22] <benplaut> helio7: IBM Atheros ABG?
[05:22] <Amaranth> Nalioth: ?
[05:22] <helio7> benplaut: http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewProduct&localeCode=EN_USA&cid=5&scid=&pid=300
[05:22] <Nalioth> Amaranth, just accept the compliement gracefully
[05:23] <delltony> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release  Unable to find expected entry  deb/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[05:23] <delltony>  when i do apt-get update
[05:23] <nickrud> delltony, you're using synaptic, right?
[05:23] <delltony> i use apt-get install and or synaptic but yes
[05:23] <hector_> nickrud no fix found under udev
[05:23] <delltony> mostly apt
[05:24] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I don't see much in the logs
[05:24] <ritalin> hello
[05:24] <agnes> hey all!!
[05:25] <Marble2> what switches can I use in ps to view memory usage
[05:25] <angel12> how do i update warty to hoary?
[05:25] <benplaut> helio7: for cardbus, the most important thing is to have native linux support, so if you're only buying now, look for that first; ndiswrapper is a hassle
[05:25] <ritalin> Is it possible to get java on ppc? The wiki only has instructions for x86
[05:25] <ritalin> ?
[05:25] <nickrud> delltony, it looks like, from the error, that you've added a new repository
[05:25] <nowen> The gnome desktop doesn't align the icons very well... is there a way to fix this? there is a lot of overlapping.. and no proper grid..
[05:25] <Marble2> angel12: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, change every instance of warty to hoary
[05:25] <agnes> I have a quick question.. I had successfully set up pppoeconf, but now I'm moving the pppoe-login off to my wireless router.. how do I *disable* pppoeconf and restore my network card to dhcp?
[05:26] <Quinn_Storm> agnes: if you had to apt-get install it...try just apt-get removing it
[05:26] <Nalioth> ritalin, i wish you the best of luck at getting java on PPC
[05:26] <nickrud> delltony, and haven't apt-get update , so it's saying it should have that file (from the repository) but it doesn't
[05:26] <helio7> yeah ben, thanks googling that a-g model vs the g model returns far fewer hits; though neither is listed at prism54.org I found one tutorial for enabling in debian for the g model; thanks.
[05:26] <delltony> i have done apt-get update
[05:26] <agnes> Quinn_Storm: Actually, I didn't apt-get install pppoe.. however, I would still rather not do that, since I may someday need pppoe, no?
[05:26] <Nalioth> ritalin, there is a wiki for java on PPC at the site
[05:26] <delltony> maybe my sources.list is not right
[05:26] <Quinn_Storm> agnes: yeah you're right
[05:26] <speedy2782> Chat room Poll! are there any desktop viewers...or GUI...that are out there besides gnome that are worth giving a try?
[05:26] <nickrud> delltony, that's where I would look
[05:26] <benplaut> helio7: good luck! i have never had very good luck with wifi on any OS :^S
[05:26] <delltony> you mind posting your source list to a pastebin so i can have a look?
[05:27] <Marble2> what switches can I use in ps to view memory usage
[05:27] <nickrud> delltony, np
[05:27] <agnes> Quinn_Storm: so, is there a way to restore it?
[05:27] <hector_> nickrud I'm back sorry
[05:27] <Quinn_Storm> agnes: I've never used pppoe
[05:28] <agnes> Quinn_Storm: It occurs to me that this is the sort of thing that a good central ubuntu tool would do : )
[05:28] <QMario> Why isn't the user field given when trying to connect to a Linux computer on the network using Windows?
[05:28] <ritalin> Nalioth: linky?
[05:28] <agnes> Quinn_Storm: how does one "configure" an interface?
[05:28] <Quinn_Storm> agnes: in /etc/network/interfaces, I think
[05:28] <hector_> nickrud did you post anything after I said that I couldn't find a bug under dev?
[05:28] <agnes> Quinn_Storm: there isn't a tool to do it?
[05:28] <Quinn_Storm> agnes: I don't know
[05:28] <hector_> nickrud udev
[05:28] <nickrud> hector_, not yet. yeah, udev :)
[05:29] <agnes> anyone else know if ubuntu has a good tool to configure a network interface?
[05:29] <speedy2782> What is Cairo?
[05:29] <nickrud> hector_, what I know about udev you could write on the head of a pin
[05:29] <hector_> nickrud lol
[05:29] <Edgan> agnes: check the menus, it is there
[05:29] <nickrud> there are files you can edit to fix the permission problem, but I've only looked at them, not messed with them
[05:29] <QMario> Is anyone listening?
[05:29] <agnes> edgan: any hints?
[05:30] <hector_> nickrud well... maybe someone else knows about this bug
[05:30] <delltony> nickrud, you gotta chance to post your sources.list yet?
[05:30] <Edgan> agnes: the third menu, under system something
[05:30] <agnes> Edgan: I'm in Kubuntu, so maybe that makes things different.. I see nothing obvious..
[05:30] <hector_> nickrud thanks anyway... I'll keep trying
[05:30] <Edgan> agnes: I figured you were going to say that. That puts you on your own.
[05:31] <agnes> Edgan: well, what's the utility?
[05:31] <ShadowRage> okay, um
[05:31] <agnes> other than "in the third menu" : )
[05:31] <ShadowRage> dist-upgrade is failing
[05:31] <agnes> I could probably apt-get it..
[05:31] <Cowlike> QMario: connect how?
[05:31] <Edgan> agnes: I don't have ubuntu in front of me to tell you
[05:31] <nickrud> http://pastebin.com/278927 , delltony
[05:31] <helio7> agnes are you in #kubuntu as well?
[05:31] <agnes> Edgan: alright, thanks..
[05:31] <delltony> agnes there is a way to do network under control panel in kde but it doesn't work worth a damn
[05:31] <agnes> helio7: nope
[05:31] <nickrud> the security line is a bit optomistic, but
[05:31] <delltony> its network settings in the control panel
[05:31] <ShadowRage> dpkg: error processing /cdrom//pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[05:31] <ShadowRage>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libnkgnomevfs.so', which is also in package mozilla-firefox
[05:31] <ShadowRage> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[05:32] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I was wondering if you can help me debug this... I'm totally lost
[05:32] <Nalioth> ritalin use your google...hint ---->  java ppc site:ubuntulinux.org
[05:32] <speedy2782> I am interested in the Cairo. What is required to install it- other than cairo?
[05:32] <hector_> other question: anyone here using Smeg 0.5?
[05:32] <QMario> Cowlike, When I try to connect to my Ubuntu computer over the network using my Windows XP computer the username box is grayed out.
[05:32] <anto9us> well, I've backed up my important stuff, I'm about to install ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 9100, any last minute tips from you guys?
[05:32] <delltony> easiest way honestly is to edit your /etc/network/interfaces file agnes
[05:32] <ritalin> java ppc site:ubuntulinux.org
[05:32] <delltony> and nickrud thanks will go look
[05:32] <ritalin> doh
[05:32] <Edgan> stryderjzw: try stopping X and then try startx
[05:33] <Cowlike> QMario, using samba?
[05:33] <ritalin> Nalioth: cheers, ty
[05:33] <agnes> dell: not the friendliest path though.. there must be some ubuntu/kubuntu tool
[05:33] <delltony> dang nickrud you have no deb-src 's in there at all
[05:33] <nickrud> delltony, just repeat the deb line and head it with deb-src
[05:33] <Cowlike> anto9us, it will work. you'll have to tweak a few things but it will work
[05:34] <stryderjzw> Edgan: how do I stop X?  it keeps jumping around
[05:34] <benplaut> speedy2782: i would love to get cairo working... candy galore!
[05:34] <agnes> there's no kubuntu equivalent for "drakconf" or "yast" or the like?
[05:34] <nowen> The gnome desktop doesn't align the icons very well... is there a way to fix this? there is a lot of overlapping.. and no proper grid..
[05:34] <anto9us> Cowlike: any preperations for tweaking I should make now do you think?
[05:35] <Cowlike> anto9us, not really. my inspiron 8200 just worked. including the wireless adapter
[05:35] <Edgan> stryderjzw: try rescue mode and then start xfs, then startx
[05:35] <anto9us> Cowlike: your wifi isn't a 1450 I would guess, is it?
[05:36] <stryderjzw> Edgan: kk, I'll go try that
[05:36] <Cowlike> it's a cardbus card
[05:36] <speedy2782> benplaut:what is needed to get it working?
[05:36] <agnes> hmmm.
[05:36] <agnes> how did ubuntu install my network card when I installed it, then?
[05:37] <anto9us> ok, I know mine will work with ndiswrapper anyway, I'll use eth0 for setup
[05:37] <benplaut> speedy2782: i dunno... i'm also trying to figure it out
[05:37] <speedy2782> do you have X installed?
[05:37] <oasiao> ahhh
[05:38] <anto9us> see you all later and thanks for the tips
[05:38] <stryderjzw> Edgan: ok... how do I start xfs?
[05:38] <ShadowRage> can anyone fucking HELP me?
[05:38] <Edgan> stryderjzw: /etc/init.d/xfs start  maybe
[05:39] <ShadowRage> mozilla won't install
[05:39] <HrdwrBoB> hrm
[05:39] <ShadowRage> thus fucking up the whole hoary install
[05:39] <ShadowRage> all over some fucking trivial thing
[05:39] <HrdwrBoB> anyone has cpu throttling working on a dual opteron?
[05:39] <bob2> ShadowRage: stop it
[05:39] <jsgotangco> stop the F word
[05:39] <delltony> nickrud, this is working thanks question though you happen to know where i can find the libmp3lame source or whatever?
[05:40] <ShadowRage> bob2: why is mozilla refusing to install during a dist-upgrade?
[05:40] <ShadowRage> bob2: I even disabled all online repositories
[05:40] <Nalioth> ShadowRage, do you have unorthodox repos in your sources.list?
[05:40] <nickrud> deltony, you were trying to do something with mplayer, or am I confused
[05:40] <delltony> i am
[05:40] <bob2> ShadowRage: I have no idea
[05:40] <ShadowRage> Nalioth: nope, I only have the cdrom rep on
[05:40] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I can't seem to find xfs... wut is it?
[05:40] <bob2> ShadowRage: but swearing will not help
[05:40] <bob2> ShadowRage: did you ever use "backports"?
[05:40] <ShadowRage> dpkg: error processing /cdrom//pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[05:40] <ShadowRage>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libnkgnomevfs.so', which is also in package mozilla-firefox
[05:41] <delltony> i'm trying to compile it with libmp3lame support so i can use it in conjuction with mencoder
[05:41] <nickrud> delltony, compile, right?
[05:41] <ShadowRage> that's the error
[05:41] <Edgan> stryderjzw: the font server
[05:41] <stryderjzw> Edgan: o, X font server... makes sense
[05:41] <bob2> ShadowRage: did you ever use backports or not?
[05:41] <ShadowRage> nope
[05:41] <bob2> if so, you get to keep both pieces
[05:41] <nowen> How can I make "open with" selection, permanent?
[05:42] <bob2> then just put firefox on hold in aptitude or synaptic
[05:42] <bob2> and continue the update
[05:42] <nickrud> delltony, did you notice I have no sources in my sources.list (pun intended)
[05:42] <ShadowRage> bob2: what are backports?
[05:42] <bob2> ShadowRage: nevermind
[05:42] <ShadowRage> k
[05:43] <bob2> and even if you are frustrated, swearing here again will get you banned, not helped
[05:43] <nickrud> delltony, but with those repositories, do an apt-cache search lame | grep lame
[05:43] <ShadowRage> bob2: I'll disable firefox atm
[05:43] <delltony> nick yes i did
[05:43] <bob2> ShadowRage: no, put it on hold
[05:43] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I can't find xfs... hmmmmmmm
[05:43] <delltony> i added the deb-src to that and i stated that very thing to you
[05:44] <ShadowRage> too late, damn
[05:44] <ShadowRage> bob2: I can continue it later, right?
[05:44] <bob2> ShadowRage: I have no idea what you've done now
[05:44] <ShadowRage> I simply unmarked bob2
[05:44] <ShadowRage> er
[05:44] <ShadowRage> I simply unmarked firefox
[05:44] <ShadowRage> for now
[05:44] <agnes> hmmm. what package is "network-admin" in?
[05:44] <agnes> or how could I find out?
[05:44] <nickrud> delltony, no offence, but there are two things I never do: networking and compiling, because nearly everyone knows more than i do ;)
[05:45] <ShadowRage> I'll reinstall it later when there's a less chance of it being bitchy
[05:45] <ShadowRage> er, sorry
[05:45] <delltony> gotta start somwhere man
[05:46] <delltony> i have done compiles and all before just wasn't sure how to do it on debian done it on gentoo and all many of times
[05:46] <delltony> in any case i believe i need this liblame-dev - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder
[05:46] <stryderjzw> hey, i'm in GRUB and how do I make it text-mode boot?  i forgot
[05:46] <bob2> delltony: what are you trying to do?
[05:47] <bob2> stryderjzw: you can't, easily
[05:47] <lexxan> I didn't know grub had a gui thingy
[05:47] <bob2> stryderjzw: unless you mean single-user mode?
[05:47] <lexxan> You mean no menus??
[05:47] <stryderjzw> yeah
[05:47] <bob2> lexxan: he/she presumably means "boot ubuntu without X"
[05:47] <bob2> stryderjzw: then append 1 to the kernel command line
[05:47] <ShadowRage> bob2: does that sound alright?
[05:48] <stryderjzw> thx bob2
[05:48] <ShadowRage> bob2: I unmarked it for upgrades at the moment
[05:48] <ShadowRage> bob2: it's conflicting
[05:48] <bob2> ShadowRage: I don't know what that means, I've never used synaptic
[05:48] <bob2> ShadowRage: if it means "hold this version", then that's fine
[05:48] <ShadowRage> it means, "dont upgrade, dont bother"
[05:48] <dazzed> np: 311 - Light Years at 128kbps [0:09 of 2:28] 
[05:48] <agnes> *cough*.. any leads on which package network-admin is in?
[05:49] <ShadowRage> and OW, my head.
[05:49] <crimsun> agnes: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=network-admin&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i386
[05:49] <delltony> bob2, trying to in a nutshell get mencoder to work so i can convert some of my "yes i bought them" dvds to xvid see i do alot of traveling and its a pain to lug around a bunch of dvds and all where i could make a dvd of say 4 dvds in xvid and cut down on space
[05:49] <agnes> crimsun: thank you so much
[05:50] <delltony> but i need to recompile mplayer for libmp3lame support and the alike
[05:50] <bob2> dazzed: please turn that off
[05:50] <stryderjzw> does X stop booting by iteself often?  man, this is frustrating.  I really need the computer tonite
[05:50] <bob2> delltony: you don't need to compile anything for tihs
[05:50] <delltony> cool now you tell me :)
[05:50] <dazzed> bob2: i was just testing something dont get your panties in a bunch :)
[05:51] <bodaciousb> how do i make sure im not running a default firewall?
[05:51] <bob2> bodaciousb: there is no default firewall
[05:51] <bodaciousb> bob2, allrighty then
[05:51] <lexxan> Does warcraft 3 run on linux
[05:51] <bob2> lexxan: perhaps in winex
[05:51] <bob2> lexxan: ask transgaming.com
[05:51] <delltony> bob2, if you don't mind a good tutorial on this would be benifical. only thing i have found with a google search is a gentoo howto and i keep getting mplayer not compiled with libmp3lame support when i do as the guide states
[05:51] <bob2> dazzed: make sure it doesn't happen again
[05:52] <dazzed> bob2: calm down...its no big deal...its just an IRC chat
[05:52] <bob2> delltony: my mplayer is compiled with lame support
[05:52] <bob2> dazzed: blah blah blah
[05:52] <delltony> for encoding?
[05:52] <dazzed> bob2: you all of a sudden turned soooo particular lately...
[05:53] <bob2> because this channel is getting worse and worse
[05:53] <stryderjzw> man, linux can't be this hard
[05:53] <gardion> Anyone know if an "enterprise edition" of unbuntu will ever come out?  Ie specialized towards servers?
[05:53] <dazzed> bob2: its fine...people come in and ask questions and the regulars stay...no prob if i advertised a song in here
[05:53] <dazzed> one time
[05:53] <dazzed> :)
[05:53] <bob2> gardion: Ubuntu as it stands is an excellent server system
[05:53] <dazzed> bob2: currently ... hoary is excellent server system?
[05:53] <Edgan> bob2: It needs a little more work to be an excellent server system
[05:54] <lexxan> If you select server when you install it.. no desktop crap installed.. why not
[05:54] <bob2> dazzed: indeed
[05:54] <bob2> Edgan: e.g.?
[05:54] <dazzed> bob2: do you read the forums ever?
[05:54] <pztak> is there a mytunes/ourtunes equivalent for linux?
[05:54] <bob2> dazzed: hell no
[05:54] <gardion> bob2: Well, What I'd like to see a more integrated server system.  ie a common authentication for samba, nfs, and opengroupware
[05:54] <bob2> pztak: best to explain what it is...
[05:54] <dazzed> bob2: you probably should read server seection
[05:54] <lexxan> though I'd be using freebsd anyway :P
[05:54] <Edgan> bob2: software raid support only being 3/4 done
[05:54] <bob2> gardion: you mean you want gui wizards?
[05:54] <gardion> bob2: That would be nice as well.
[05:54] <bob2> dazzed: from my random sampling of the forums, very little of use gets discussed
[05:54] <delltony> 77 audio & 188 video codecs
[05:54] <delltony> File not found: 'frameno.avi'
[05:54] <delltony> Failed to open frameno.avi
[05:54] <delltony> MPlayer was compiled without libmp3lame support i'm confused bob2
[05:55] <Edgan> bob2: A few more server packages could be in main, like squirrelmail
[05:55] <pztak> sorry, its a program that lets you access itunes music that is shared on the network.. search all of the files, and download whichever ones you want
[05:55] <gardion> But the main work is getting everything to work together.
[05:55] <gardion> but wizzards are nice.
[05:55] <dazzed> bob2: ok...but my oppinion is that ubuntu has the opporitunity to be an excellent server system....def. not tehre yet
[05:55] <_agnes> hmmm..
[05:55] <bob2> Edgan: it's horribly insecure, I doubt that will ever happen
[05:55] <_agnes> OK, last question.. how do I disable a service?\
[05:55] <Edgan> bob2: What would you suggest?
[05:55] <bob2> dazzed: then please discuss it in a place people with clue hang out, like the mailing lists
[05:55] <bob2> Edgan: I don't know of any non-crap webmail systems
[05:55] <QMario> Cowlike, yes I'm using Samba
[05:56] <dazzed> bob2: im just saying...you cant say that if its not
[05:56] <bob2> dazzed: yes, I can
[05:56] <dazzed> bob2: but if you believe it
[05:56] <Edgan> bob2: webmail is a must
[05:56] <dazzed> then go for it
[05:56] <bob2> ubuntu is working amazingly well on my mail/web server
[05:56] <bob2> perhaps because I know how to admin a unix machine
[05:56] <dazzed> bob2: it just makes you look like a fool :)
[05:56] <Edgan> haha
[05:56] <bob2> it seems you guys are saying it needs to be easier, not better
[05:56] <dazzed> not saying that you do
[05:56] <bob2> jesus, be quiet
[05:56] <FunnyLookinHat> anyone know why Totem and VLC both can't seem to play a .wmv?
[05:56] <bcowan> there any rsync servers with the warty iso on them?
[05:57] <dazzed> dont make stupid comments then
[05:57] <bob2> FunnyLookinHat: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:57] <lexxan> FunnyLookinHat, You got w32codecs installed?
[05:57] <bob2> dazzed: don't be such a gimp
[05:57] <bob2> bcowan: yeah, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[05:57] <dazzed> only towards people that have no courtesey
[05:57] <QMario> Cowlike?
[05:57] <FunnyLookinHat> lexxan, most likely not...
[05:57] <gp_aaron> FunnyLookinHat, ususally that is a sign that it is a unsupported wmv, for me some work, some dont
[05:57] <bcowan> thanks bob2
[05:57] <lexxan> Goto that link he just said
[05:57] <revelater> is there any video editing software in synaptic?
[05:57] <gp_aaron> kino
[05:58] <Cowlike> QMario: sorry, was in other channel. i'm afraid i don't know the answer. not a samba guru
[05:58] <revelater> kino?
[05:58] <gp_aaron> yes
[05:58] <benplaut> :gp_
[05:58] <Cowlike> try joining #samba
[05:58] <benplaut> woops
[05:58] <benplaut> never mind
[05:58] <gp_aaron> never used it but I hear it is a fairly good video editer
[05:58] <lexxan> bob2, Do you know the locations where I can edit my gnome menu?
[05:59] <bob2> lexxan: no
[05:59] <revelater> can it hadle avi also?
[05:59] <p0m> lexxan: applications:///
[05:59] <revelater> ohh
[05:59] <bob2> delltony: get marillat's mplayer
[05:59] <bob2> delltony: or just use thoggen
[05:59] <lexxan> p0m, Doesn't do anything for me ;/
[05:59] <p0m> Err, take away the last /
[05:59] <charles> can i get a copy of nigger linux too?
[05:59] <lexxan> two doesn't work for me :(
[06:00] <gp_aaron> p0m, do you know how to add items to computer:///
[06:00] <charles> I WANT NIGGER LINUX!!!!
[06:00] <charles> I WANT NIGGER LINUX!!!!
[06:00] <charles> I WANT NIGGER LINUX!!!!
[06:00] <p0m> lexxan: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:00] <charles> me?
[06:00] <fsapo> wth?
[06:00] <p0m> gp_aaron: No, sorry.
[06:00] <lexxan> p0m, 5.04
[06:00] <Nalioth> how misguided
[06:00] <revelater> charles: it may be a while befor nigger linux is realesed
[06:00] <charles> lol
[06:00] <charles> this is nigger linux
[06:01] <Nalioth> perhaps charles already uses it
[06:01] <p0m> lexxan: There's a post on the forum about a program to do it, give me a second, I'll find it.
[06:01] <bob2> nickoli: my apologies
[06:01] <revelater> never herd of nigger linux.. is it all black? :P
[06:01] <lexxan> p0m, I know that program.. It doesn't list the entry i need to remove :(
[06:01] <bob2> enough
[06:01] <nickoli> bob2 so whats a good prog
[06:01] <bob2> nickoli: for what?
[06:01] <lexxan> Enemy Territory put an "other" category on my menu =[
[06:02] <nickoli> bob2 cd buringing k3b keeps crashing on me
[06:02] <killapop> raghu: hi
[06:02] <lexxan> I just wish i could right click and delete ;/
[06:02] <bob2> nickoli: nautilus works fine for me
[06:02] <p0m> lexxan: Strange.
[06:02] <nickoli> bob2 i cant get that to do audio cds
[06:02] <Nalioth> lexxan see or google the ubuntu wiki for "gnome menu editor"
[06:02] <bob2> nickoli: oh well
[06:02] <gp_aaron> lexxan, wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[06:02] <gp_aaron> sudo dpkg -i smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[06:03] <bob2> I wouldn't be downloading .debs from random people on IRC
[06:03] <Nalioth> lexxan, there are links to several (all developemental)
[06:03] <Nalioth> bob2 i second that motion
[06:03] <gp_aaron> its from ubuntuguide.org
[06:03] <msacco> Evening all.
[06:03] <revelater> what about audio editors?
[06:03] <bob2> yes, I wouldn't download packages from ubuntuguide either
[06:03] <gp_aaron> I just copied the exact post
[06:03] <Nalioth> revelater, audacity?
[06:03] <bob2> nor ubuntuforums
[06:03] <bob2> revelater: sweep is nice, too
[06:03] <gp_aaron> it is the gnome menu editor
[06:03] <gp_aaron> works fine for me
[06:03] <revelater> Nalioth, can audacity splice?
[06:03] <Nalioth> revelater, yes
[06:04] <Nalioth> revelater, audacity.sourceforge.net
[06:04] <bob2> gp_aaron: how would you know if it had installed a ssh server on a high port on your machine?
[06:04] <benplaut> relevator: search ubuntuforums for instructions to get it to work- it's a bit finicky
[06:04] <bob2> gp_aaron: or if it had emailed your password to someone in new zealand?
[06:04] <revelater> Nalioth, can i synaptic it?
[06:04] <Nalioth> revelater, not sure, i havent tried
[06:04] <benplaut> relevater: yes
[06:05] <msacco> I'm seeking help installing ubuntu on a mac.  Anyone care to lend a hand?
[06:05] <Nalioth> msacco, mac user here
[06:05] <gp_aaron> bob2, personally on the box I installed it on, it really doens't matter, and second I changed my password weekly
[06:05] <bob2> gp_aaron: that doesn't help if your machine has been compromised
[06:05] <bob2> msacco: best to just ask your question
[06:06] <msacco> Nalioth: I bought a second harddrive, used the Guided partition to use the whole drive, but the computer just keeps booting into osx.
[06:06] <lexxan> gp_aaron, That works fine except it doesn't display the "other" menu I have.
[06:06] <gp_aaron> oh
[06:06] <msacco> hitting option key on boot shows the other drive (penguin icon).
[06:06] <gp_aaron> sorry I dont know then
[06:07] <Nalioth> msacco can you hold the "alt-option" key upon power up for the open firmware boot menu?
[06:07] <lexxan> bob2, Can you ban ppl from #ubuntu-doc ? charles is in there now.
[06:07] <msacco> I click on it, see the yaboot menu (I'm assuming l for linux, x for mac), but hitting l just takes me to the hard drive icons again
[06:07] <gijosh> I upgraded to hoary.  How do I go back to warty's gnome theme?  Also, how do I go back to the old font?
[06:07] <Nalioth> msacco, what kind of mac are we talkin about?
[06:07] <msacco> power g5
[06:08] <bob2> lexxan: I can't, unfortunately, but I'm trying to find someone who can
[06:08] <lexxan> bob2, thanks
[06:08] <Huey> how do i see what files a particular package touched/added/
[06:08] <Huey> ?
[06:08] <bob2> dpkg -L packagename
[06:08] <lexxan> Huey, Synaptic or dpkg -L
[06:08] <Nalioth> msacco, so when you power up and hold the alt-option key, you see the bootable images of all your system, you clik the penguin and then click "l" and it takes you back to the alt-option boot screen?
[06:09] <msacco> ok, held option, see two hdd icons, one for mac, one for linux
[06:09] <msacco> yes
[06:09] <msacco> only the graphics look weird, like the bit depth drops from 24 to 8 or something
[06:09] <Nalioth> msacco, and when u click the penguin, it takes you back to open firmware..
[06:10] <msacco> click on penguin, see First Stage Ubuntu text menu
[06:10] <msacco> enter "l", back to two hdd icons
[06:10] <Nalioth> msacco, that is weird
[06:10] <Nalioth> i've never heard of yaboot sending you back to open firmware
[06:11] <msacco> :) I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so!  I tried a ubuntu disk and a kubuntu disk, so I don't think the install is messed up.
[06:11] <bob2> it could do that if you broke the yaboot setup
[06:11] <Nalioth> perhaps a boot from the live ubuntu ppc disk, a quick look at your yaboot.conf and see wtf?
[06:11] <msacco> I never got to set it up though?  How do I access the yaboot.conf file, isn't it on the linux part?
[06:12] <fsapo> somebody could help me please? i m stuck here trying to install transcode.. i get this: Depends: libvorbis0 (>= 1.0rc3-1) but it is not installable
[06:12] <krazeivan> have a quick question
[06:12] <fsapo> any ideas?
[06:12] <Nalioth> msacco, you'll need to boot from a live ppc ubuntu disk
[06:12] <msacco> got one.  one sec
[06:12] <Nalioth> fsapo, are your repositories in order?
[06:13] <krazeivan> following the wiki on ndiswrapper but i have AMD64 and when im doing make deb i get this error
[06:13] <krazeivan> dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)
[06:13] <fsapo> Nalioth, i think so
[06:13] <msacco> booting...
[06:13] <krazeivan> and returns error 2
[06:13] <gp_aaron> nite all
[06:13] <gp_aaron> opps wrong one
[06:13] <krazeivan> where can i change the build arch?
[06:13] <Nalioth> fsapo, you may have to have apt build the libvorbis0 from source
[06:14] <tractor> if I have a .deb file, how can I install it?
[06:14] <msacco> ok, boot prompt
[06:14] <fsapo> Nalioth, how do i do it?
[06:14] <fsapo> tractor, dpkg -i file.deb
[06:14] <Nalioth> fsapo "man apt-get" read about building from source
[06:14] <angel12> has anyone here gotten an orinoco wifi card working in hoary? i am going to follow whats in the wiki when my upgrade is finished (warty to hoary)
[06:14] <revelater> i need to make a link to a directory, how doi  do it, it isn't letting me...
[06:14] <bob2> krazeivan: ... you can't install i386 packages on amd64
[06:14] <tractor> fsapo, thank you
[06:14] <krazeivan> right
[06:14] <krazeivan> its source
[06:14] <bob2> krazeivan: er
[06:14] <krazeivan> trying to build
[06:15] <bob2> krazeivan: you know you'll need a 64-bit windows ndis driver, right?
[06:15] <krazeivan> yeah
[06:15] <krazeivan> sawthem on the forums
[06:15] <bob2> ouch
[06:15] <bob2> so, why are you building it at all?
[06:15] <revelater> how do i create a link to a directory?
[06:15] <krazeivan> i cant find a amd64 prebuild
[06:15] <lexxan> ln -s
[06:15] <bob2> revelater: you can only make symlinks, ln -s
[06:15] <Nalioth> revelater, "man ln"
[06:15] <msacco> now..I saw something online along the likes of "cd-linux kernel=/dev/<disk>"?
[06:16] <revelater> ln -s gives me a file
[06:16] <Nalioth> y'all don't pass out fish, teach these folks TO fish
[06:16] <bob2> revelater: it makes a symlink
[06:16] <bob2> krazeivan: edit debian/control, change 'Architecture: i386' to 'Architecture: any'
[06:16] <helio7> has anyone successfully updated gpg to v1.4.1 ?
[06:16] <bwb> hey.. having problems configuring a simple samba file server....
[06:16] <bwb> just want users to be able to login under their unix user names (tho I
[06:16] <bwb>           did add entries with smbpasswd)
[06:16] <Nalioth> linux is all about learning
[06:16] <Niterider> hello
[06:16] <bwb> and access shares
[06:16] <krazeivan> ah!
[06:16] <krazeivan> thnks :)
[06:16] <bwb> from a windows xp client it prompts for username/passwd
[06:16] <bwb> but just says share is inacessible
[06:16] <bwb>  even if it is a root (browseing?) path (ie \\bree)
[06:16] <bwb> any ideas?
[06:16] <lexxan> bwb, You have to setup the conf properly..
[06:16] <Niterider> what repo do i add to get a jre in hoary
[06:17] <lexxan> bwb.. lemme get link
[06:17] <Nalioth> msacco, how we doin?
[06:17] <krazeivan> damn
[06:17] <krazeivan> same thing
[06:17] <msacco> I'm at boot
[06:17] <Nalioth> ?? restricted
[06:17] <[uhelp] > restricted: To find out more about java, dvd playing, codecs etc. see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:17] <krazeivan> does make deb rewrite the file?
[06:17] <Nalioth> Niterider, see what uhelp said above
[06:17] <msacco> fans are starting to go crazy
[06:17] <Niterider> k  ty
[06:17] <bwb> lexxan: k... this is actually on a debian (testing) server... but figured ubuntu ppl might know
[06:18] <bwb> lexxan: I've read through the samba 3 howto (the official one) and couldnt' find anything
[06:18] <lexxan> bwb, you could always install swat heh
[06:18] <Nalioth> msacco, when you achieve takeoff speed , we'll be watching
[06:18] <bwb> lexxan: swat?
[06:18] <lexxan> web config
[06:18] <lexxan> just apt-get it and browse to localhost:901
[06:19] <msacco> Nalioth: so what do I type at boot: prompt?
[06:19] <Parkway> Anyone know why I would get a "bash: cvs: command not found" with the following "cvs -d `pwd`/CVS co at76c503a" ?
[06:19] <bwb> lexxan: k i'll try that, thanks
[06:19] <krazeivan> you need to install cvs
[06:19] <bwb> lexxan: any idea offhand tho.. it's pretty weird
[06:19] <krazeivan> or its not in your path
[06:19] <Predius> #apt-get install cvs
[06:19] <Parkway> hrmm ok
[06:19] <lexxan> bwb, It's just a setting in ur config i'm pretty sure
[06:19] <lexxan> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:20] <fsapo> damit i cant install this shit :(
[06:20] <lexxan> [homes] 
[06:20] <lexxan>        comment = Home Directories
[06:20] <lexxan>        browseable = yes
[06:20] <lexxan> you need something like that
[06:20] <bob2> fsapo: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[06:20] <bob2> fsapo: if you're trying to use backports or marillat's archive, it probably won't work
[06:20] <lexxan> What are you installing fsapo?
[06:20] <fsapo> bob2, i have the libvorbis installed
[06:21] <fsapo> lexxan, transcode
[06:21] <lexxan> god i love my new intellimouse
[06:21] <revelater> nothing i do is creating a link with directorys
[06:21] <bob2> fsapo: that's not the point
[06:21] <bob2> fsapo: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[06:21] <Parkway> Danke Krazeivan and Predius!
[06:21] <fsapo> bob2, but it says that my versin dont match the requirements or something like it
[06:21] <bob2> revelater: what are you *really* trying to do?
[06:21] <Nalioth> msacco, sorry but i dont know the exact details, but you'll need to mount your HD with linux on it as read and write
[06:21] <krazeivan> yw :)
[06:21] <bob2> fsapo: yes, I know.  stop ignoring what I'm saying and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood.
[06:21] <msacco> I typed rescue-power4
[06:21] <bob2> fsapo: no one can help you until you do.
[06:21] <bob2> msacco: you do not have a power4.
[06:21] <msacco> it's loading kernel now
[06:21] <Nalioth> msacco, that may not work due to permissions, so you may have to chroot to your HD linux
[06:21] <bob2> unless you have a g5
[06:22] <revelater> bob2: i have a folder that has all of my music files, but it is in a hidden folder, and i do not want to move it, so i must link it so other programs can easily see it
[06:22] <msacco> I have a G5
[06:22] <bob2> revelater: "hidden folder"?
[06:22] <revelater> with the . in front
[06:22] <bob2> revelater: ln -s /path/to/music/dir/ ~/music/
[06:22] <fsapo> bob2, i just commented the hoary lines but i cant install the libvordbis package anyway
[06:22] <Nalioth> bob2 i'm the one with the ancient G3 iBook   :)
[06:22] <a_monkey> anyone mac os x'ers here use missingmediaburner to burn their install cd?
[06:23] <bob2> fsapo: you're doing it wrong
[06:23] <bob2> fsapo: commend out the two bottom lines, uncomment the top two
[06:23] <Nalioth> a_monkey, i never found it to work
[06:23] <fsapo> bob2, ok.. but i already have the ubuntu version for the libvorbis
[06:23] <bob2> fsapo: yes, and you're trying to install a broken version of transcode
[06:23] <fsapo> bob2, but transcode is "unstalable"
[06:24] <revelater> bob2: it creates a file, not a folder though....
[06:24] <bob2> revelater: dude
[06:24] <bob2> revelater: it makes a symlink
[06:24] <bob2> revelater: this is what you're trying to do
[06:24] <Nalioth> fsapo its installable, i did it yesterday
[06:24] <fsapo> bob2, updating the list
[06:24] <bob2> fsapo: no, it's "uninstallable".  now paste the output of "apt-cache policy transcode" to #flood.
[06:25] <fsapo> bob2, ok, just wait i m updating
[06:26] <msacco> what are the device names for SATA drives?  When ubuntu installed, it said sdg but the rescue system says special device sdg# does not exist
[06:26] <Nalioth> msacco, have ya tried plain vanilla hd*?
[06:26] <bob2> /dev/sdX, find X by trial and error or examing "dmesg" output
[06:28] <bwb> damnit can't connect to swat for some reason
[06:28] <msacco> how weird.  hda is my cdrom?
[06:28] <msacco> just mounted it.
[06:28] <a_monkey> well... who's successfully used missingmediaburner?
[06:28] <bob2> that sounds more like a #macos question
[06:28] <a_monkey> bob2: it was
[06:28] <Nalioth> bob2 it is
[06:29] <a_monkey> nobody knows about mmb there
[06:29] <Nalioth> a_monkey, there are other opensource burning softwares that will do the same thing
[06:29] <a_monkey> lots of ubuntu'ers have used mmb
[06:29] <krazeivan> bob2 sorry to bug ya but i canged the arc and it rewrote it to i386 is there a main template somewhere i need to change?
[06:30] <bob2> krazeivan: I don't know, it depends on the source package
[06:30] <krazeivan> ok
[06:30] <bob2> grep around for i386 in the debian/ dir
[06:33] <msacco> found it, /dev/sdf3 is "/" of ubuntu
[06:33] <lexxan> Anyone know a way to mount a bin & cue file or if i convert it to an iso
[06:33] <lexxan> ?
[06:33] <JustOneIt> Hi! :)
[06:33] <a_monkey> let's just say that i have to use missingmediaburner
[06:33] <a_monkey> how do i do it?
[06:34] <bob2> lexxan: use bchunk to ocnvert it to a useful format
[06:34] <|iceman|> ne1 know of an audio editor that work with mp3 files
[06:34] <a_monkey> what driver, and write mode
[06:34] <msacco> so now, I chroot to /mnt/sdf3, and then is the command "ybin -v"?
[06:34] <a_monkey> (n00b)
[06:34] <Nalioth> lexxan, use binchunker
[06:34] <bob2> a_monkey: dude, try a macos channel or mailing list or whatever
[06:34] <JustOneIt> is it possible to configure a user to start with another wm (different from gnome)?
[06:34] <bob2> JustOneIt: yeah
[06:34] <lexxan> Ok so once its an iso.. how can i mount it?
[06:34] <lexxan> I don't have any cds
[06:34] <bob2> lexxan: come back and ask when you've converted it
[06:35] <lexxan> It is converted with bchunk
[06:35] <Nalioth> a_monkey go to versiontracker and get you a working software
[06:35] <JustOneIt> bob2: :) would ya help me to do it?
[06:35] <bob2> lexxan: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 ./foo.iso /mnt/
[06:35] <bob2> JustOneIt: just tell us what you want to do
[06:35] <lexxan> cool thx
[06:36] <Nalioth> |iceman|, audacity
[06:36] <|iceman|> kewl... good for trimming, fades, etd?
[06:36] <Nalioth> |iceman|, you bet
[06:36] <JustOneIt> bob2: ok... :) i have a user who works with gnome... I've just created another user and i would like to let him start with icewm...
[06:36] <lexxan> bob2, Is there a special way to unmount.. i'm getting umount: it seems /upstairs is mounted multiple times
[06:37] <bob2> JustOneIt: echo exec icewm > ~/.xsession
[06:37] <bob2> JustOneIt: as that user.  then get them to select "default session" or whatever it is in gdm
[06:37] <bob2> lexxan: is it mounted multiple times?
[06:37] <lexxan> Well i only mounted it once lol.
[06:37] <JustOneIt> bob2: ok... :)
[06:37] <lexxan> and no matter how many times i hit umount /upstairs it sticks lol
[06:38] <dross> Okay, I plug in my pen drive, and the device isn't created. What is wrong?
[06:38] <dross> I've been seeing this all over the forums?
[06:38] <dross> is it a bug?
[06:38] <crimsun> as in /dev/sda doesn't exist?
[06:38] <msacco> OK, I ran ybin and recieved the error "unable to find OpenFirmware path for boot=/dev/sdg2"
[06:38] <SeamusLP> dross:  I believe you're going to need to add a line to your fstab
[06:38] <angel12> is the orinoco support built in the stock hoary kernel?
[06:38] <dross> correct
[06:39] <crimsun> dross: and sd_mod is loaded?
[06:39] <dross> mmm
[06:39] <bob2> dross: is it formatted?  are you using an ubuntu kernel?
[06:39] <bob2> if you're using a custom kernel, all bets are off.
[06:39] <SeamusLP> dross: ah, the device isn't created... nevermind
[06:39] <dross> crimsun: blast. thats the problem
[06:39] <lexxan> Well that mount thing really borked my machine.. reboot time
[06:39] <dross> crimsun: what does GNOME use to mount it automatically?
[06:40] <crimsun> dross: gnome-volume-manager
[06:40] <dross> crimsun: I've been using KDE lately.. so no gnome magic :)
[06:40] <synd> xfce4 : )
[06:40] <JustOneIt> bob2: thanx! :)
[06:40] <angel12> is the orinoco support built in the stock hoary kernel?
[06:40] <msacco> how do I find out the openfirmware path?
[06:41] <dross> synd: sorry, I require advanced desktop for corporate usage
[06:41] <synd> say what?
[06:41] <dross> synd: I require a Desktop which has the ability of setting policies
[06:41] <dross> synd: which KDE has in the policy manager
[06:42] <synd> hmm
[06:42] <kingsley> Will someone here please try the following test and tell me if your xfstt has port 7101? ( netstat -l ; netstat -plunt ; lsof -i -n ) | grep 7101
[06:42] <dross> synd: its the only reason I choose to run KDE.
[06:42] <synd> KDE feels like it's made by Fischer-Price
[06:43] <dross> synd: corporate conversion == money for me :)
[06:43] <angel12> lets not get into kde-vs-gnome tonight please
[06:43] <lexxan> When i used KDE konquerer or whatever crashed every time i used it ;/
[06:43] <dross> synd: well.. the default theme makes me want to puke :)
[06:43] <lexxan> The sickest default is how huge the taskbar is
[06:43] <synd> what corporation?
[06:43] <lexxan> looks disgusting
[06:43] <dross> synd: plastik is okay... but I require tweaking :) and the gtk-manager-qt program thing
[06:43] <fsapo> bob2, please take a look at #flood
[06:44] <dross> lexxan: Thank you! :) /me sizes down the big bloated bar
[06:44] <synd> dross: i just hate the damn huge fonts
[06:44] <synd> its seems its for like the elderly
[06:44] <dross> I thought I was the only one who thought the KDE bar was insanely huge
[06:44] <lexxan> huh?
[06:44] <lexxan> o
[06:44] <angel12> dross synd, lets not get into this
[06:44] <lexxan> I put it on tiny
[06:44] <dross> synd: I convert companies
[06:45] <dross> lexxan: I do ;)
[06:45] <crimsun> fsapo: which debian-marillat repo are you using?
[06:45] <Ksmurf> Anyone have advice for getting an Audigy 2 Soundcard working?
[06:45] <dross> right now.. I'm converting a bunch of baptists to Linuxism
[06:45] <synd> dross: i see
[06:45] <crimsun> Ksmurf: what doesn't work? (I presume you're using Horay)
[06:45] <msacco> Thanks all for getting me this far.  I gotta go to bed.  When I get more free time I'll sign on here again.
[06:45] <crimsun> (Hoary^)
[06:45] <synd> dross: so youre a linux "pope"
[06:46] <fsapo> crimsun, bob2 said to comment the marillat entries O.o
[06:46] <angel12> lol, ha, linux pope
[06:46] <dross> synd: hehe
[06:46] <synd> ive converted many to OSX
[06:46] <dross> synd: well, I'm going to be launching a linux compaign
[06:46] <Ksmurf> Crimsun Yes Hoary.... My sound card is not loaded.. and I'm a noob
[06:46] <synd> only a few to linux..
[06:46] <dross> synd: :) I love MacOSX
[06:46] <dross> synd: its the only way to design ;)
[06:46] <crimsun> Ksmurf: cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:46] <synd> dross: my absolute favorite OS, period
[06:46] <synd> do you have Tiger?
[06:47] <dross> synd: *grin*
[06:47] <dross> synd: why do you ask? :)
[06:47] <bwb> hey does anyone know if swat can have smbd reload the config file (vs. restarting smbd)
[06:47] <Ksmurf> 0 [Audigy2        ] : Audigy2 - Sound Blaster Audigy2
[06:47] <Ksmurf>                      Sound Blaster Audigy2 (rev.4) at 0xdf00, irq 21
[06:47] <dross> synd: I barrows it from the Chinese ;)
[06:47] <crimsun> Ksmurf: it actually is loaded ;)
[06:47] <icebalm> <-- will have OSX soon, mini is coming
[06:47] <synd> dross: doesnt everyone? :p
[06:47] <Ksmurf> lol
[06:48] <dross> synd: they have every software pirated first
[06:48] <crimsun> Ksmurf: please paste the output of ,,amixer'' onto http://pastebin.com
[06:48] <Ksmurf> then why is it not working... rofl
[06:48] <dross> synd: yes, but the Chinese always have the goods to test out before buying ;)
[06:48] <Ksmurf> ..amixer.. ok
[06:48] <synd> thats true
[06:48] <dross> I used to have 5 killer g4 servers :/
[06:48] <synd> ooo
[06:49] <dross> now they are closet machines because they have no idea what to do with them :) oh well. Don't work there anymore
[06:49] <dross> oh well to idiots :)
[06:49] <synd> ha
[06:49] <dross> any tools?
[06:49] <dross> Its a ubuntu installation video
[06:49] <fsapo> damit if i could even compile transcode =[
[06:49] <angel12> icebalm, good luck, i tried to convert myself, my ibook lasted a month before selling it for a tablet pc, now i gots me a linux tablet!
[06:49] <dross> I'm going to create many tutorials
[06:49] <crimsun> fsapo: what $arch?
[06:50] <dross> for the people :)
[06:50] <icebalm> angel12: how come you didn't stick with it?
[06:50] <fsapo> crimsun, $arch?
[06:50] <crimsun> fsapo: cpu
[06:51] <dross> good night everyone
[06:51] <fsapo> crimsun, duron x86 :P
[06:51] <angel12> icebalm, i couldnt find any real free help such as this irc, and i didnt want to buy a $30 book to learn osx, i am a HS student afterall, not a lot of $$
[06:51] <icebalm> angel12: ahh, well, I've been a mac tech :D
[06:51] <bwb> angel12: where you gonna go for college?
[06:51] <fsapo> crimsun, but it missing the stupid libvorbis and i cant install it properly
[06:51] <kompulsive> bah....
[06:51] <crimsun> fsapo: so you can use the debian-marillat testing repo to install transcode
[06:51] <kompulsive> nonsense.
[06:51] <Ksmurf> http://pastebin.com/278952
[06:51] <kompulsive> i was in high school just last year and i always had money.
[06:51] <dross> if anyone wishes to help with a linux campaign, or create ubuntu newcomer materials, just IM me. I would say email.. but I'm creating a video for an admin at a ded center :)
[06:51] <kompulsive> all you need is a little hustle.
[06:51] <angel12> bwb, Mcmurry in abiline tx
[06:52] <kompulsive> especially if you're still living at home! there's no rent to pay ;-)
[06:52] <fsapo> crimsun, i tried it.. i end up with  uninstalable dependecies
[06:52] <crimsun> Ksmurf: unmute the 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack'
[06:52] <icebalm> angel12: linux tablet sounds cool tho, how does the stylus work? just like an emulated mouse?
[06:53] <angel12> icebalm, then i am sure you will like it, im sure if i knew it i would have liked it. the stylus works just like it would in winxp, took a lot of hacking to get it to work though
[06:53] <angel12> icebalm, i guess you could call it emulated mouse
[06:53] <kompulsive> what's going on with winxp these days anyhow? my XP box went nutty.
[06:53] <bwb> angel12: coo
[06:54] <pdk001> hi
[06:54] <angel12> yeah, my little bro got a virus on his xp computer so i am setting it up with ubuntu, not the best
[06:54] <kompulsive> it's doing some crazy thing where it won't accept any drivers except these presets that windows forces it to use.
[06:54] <angel12> kompulsive, use linux
[06:54] <dross> angel12: I just started to convert business people to ubuntu, be happy ;)
[06:54] <kompulsive> i'm using ubuntu right now.
[06:54] <kompulsive> but i need my XP box for other things.
[06:54] <synd> kompulsive: xp = xtremely pointless.
[06:55] <crimsun> fsapo: what sort?
[06:55] <fsapo> kompulsive, just do what i did.. format your ntfs partition as reiserfs, install ubuntu and be happy
[06:55] <angel12> does anyone know if the stock hoary kernel has the orinoco wifi drivers installed?
[06:55] <dross> synd: I could think of a few good uses with xp :)
[06:55] <kompulsive> yeah, really pointless. i mean, whoever wanted to do something stupid like play games on their computer and audio/video production?
[06:55] <kompulsive> how pointless.
[06:55] <dross> synd: especially sexual type jokes.. eXtra Pu...
[06:56] <synd> i leave my gaming to my xbox
[06:56] <kompulsive> what's pointless is arguing that UNIX is "better" than macOS/windows, etc
[06:56] <dross> synd: I recall the OpenBSD joke poster with a female blow fish being exploited :)
[06:56] <synd> and my audio/video production to OSX
[06:56] <kompulsive> i use macOS, UNIX, and windows
[06:56] <kompulsive> they all have their uses.
[06:56] <synd> dross: hahah
[06:56] <kompulsive> synd; do they make WoW for the xbox?
[06:56] <fsapo> crimsun, transcode is depending on it: libvorbis0 it is already installed but the version doesnt match the transcode requirements -_-
[06:56] <angel12> kompulsive, linux/unix=stable, windows=games/media. macos=production
[06:57] <crimsun> fsapo: you're using the testing repo?
[06:57] <fsapo> crimsun, i was
[06:57] <dross> hmm 12M of updates since yesterday
[06:57] <synd> no, but if you wanna spend $1000+ to play games..which 95% of them are available on the xbox/ps2.. then i mean
[06:57] <fsapo> crimsun, but i cant install another libvorbis anyway
[06:57] <kompulsive> angel12, you won't find me arguing.
[06:57] <kompulsive> synd; 95%? that's ridiculous.
[06:57] <undre61> umm how do I know if the ati drivers work
[06:57] <crimsun> fsapo: please paste the precise dependency error(s) in #flood or on http://pastebin.com
[06:58] <kompulsive> there's not even CLOSE to as many games for xbox as there is for the PC.
[06:58] <Ksmurf> all hail crimsun the sound god/godess
[06:58] <synd> kompulsive: nonetheless, more and more developers are developing games for linux
[06:58] <crimsun> pshh
[06:58] <synd> kompulsive: of course.
[06:58] <fsapo> crimsun, ok but i ll have to update the repositories here.. its going to take a while
[06:59] <synd> kompulsive: most big production games are available on both platforms.
[06:59] <lexxan> xboxs are for people who have friends.. computer games are for loners
[06:59] <lexxan> :P
[06:59] <synd> lexxan: :D
[06:59] <Ksmurf> now for the next trick .... I'm off to try and install the nvidia driver for my card
[06:59] <lexxan> Ksmurf.. not too difficult
[06:59] <lexxan> ?? nvidia
[06:59] <[uhelp] > nvidia: to setup your xorg binary nvidia driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto -OR- http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver -ALSO- http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
[06:59] <bcowan> I can't seem to rsync the stinkin iso...can someone post the url to the rsync i386 cd iso
[06:59] <Ksmurf> nvidia 6600 GT
[07:00] <Parkway> ?? networking
[07:00] <[uhelp] > networking[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:00] <undre61> is there one for ati??
[07:00] <Parkway> dah well
[07:00] <nickrud> ?? bugs
[07:00] <[uhelp] > bugs[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:00] <lexxan> ?? ati
[07:00] <[uhelp] > ati: To setup your xorg binary ati driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <nickrud> ?? bugzilla
[07:00] <[uhelp] > bugzilla[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:00] <synd> wow, i love streamtuner
[07:00] <lexxan> nickrud, Why don't you think up something creative for those two :P
[07:01] <Parkway> Anyone know anything about getting a wlan up and running?  Finally got it added to the Network Manager list and it says I can activate it, but doesnt do jack ;P
[07:01] <lexxan> ?? wireless
[07:01] <[uhelp] > wireless: For listed hardware support see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards | Setup see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto
[07:01] <JustOneIt> bob2: Thax... Things work great! :) Just another little question... Can i change the ubuntu time sever it probes at sturtup?
[07:01] <nickrud> lexxan, I would, but I leave tomorrow, and will be internet free in western washington for a couple of weeks.
[07:01] <synd> nickrud: i feel for you
[07:02] <bob2> JustOneIt: yeah
[07:02] <nickrud> synd, I lived the first 25 years of my life without computers, a couple of weeks won't kill me :)
[07:02] <bob2> JustOneIt: /etc/default/ntpdate, I think
[07:02] <lexxan> I hate it when i leave on holidays for amonth.. come back
[07:02] <lexxan> and go oh shit what are my passwords
[07:02] <synd> nickrud: hah. i lived the first 8.. been in front of one ever since :D
[07:03] <danko123456> hi all.
[07:03] <fsapo> crimsun, take a look @ #flood
[07:03] <JustOneIt> bob2: thanx! :)
[07:04] <danko123456> fsapo: whats that cahnnel?
[07:04] <fsapo> danko123456, #flood channel to paste stuff :P
[07:04] <danko123456> col
[07:04] <danko123456> thanks
[07:04] <fsapo> danko123456, ;)
[07:05] <danko123456> where are you on the globe, fsapo?
[07:05] <danko123456> US?
[07:05] <JustOneIt> bob2: Sorry... But I was used to gentoo... where i can find the startup scripts like sshd and so on? :)
[07:06] <nickrud> lexxan, and if someone does write one, make sure it mentions reportbug ;)
[07:06] <lexxan> nickrud, I'm sure you can create a quick 2 lines before you goto bed
[07:06] <lexxan> lol
[07:06] <nickrud> hahhahahaa
[07:06] <fsapo> danko123456, brazil.. what about you?
[07:06] <danko123456> Canada
[07:06] <cadence> i am trying to install a library for a third-party program here on my new Ubuntu setup, and when i execute the 'install.sh' in either the regular or root terminal I get an error telling me that the library doesnt exist...however It most certainly exists right before my eyes. Could anyone please tell what it is that I am doing wrong here? (Linux Newb)
[07:07] <danko123456> cool
[07:08] <danko123456> If I want a page like the pastebin on my computer, where should I look?
[07:08] <Ksmurf> Well that was cool
[07:09] <blujay> Justin: /etc/init.d
[07:09] <blujay> oops
[07:09] <blujay> JustOneIt: /etc/init.d
[07:10] <blujay> cadence: what library??
[07:10] <cadence> libborqt-6.9.0-qt2.3.so
[07:11] <Ksmurf> My limited knowledge in linux is with KDE ... Gnome seems great!  Any more noob hints for me?
[07:11] <danko123456> What do you want to do?
[07:11] <blujay> cadence: is the library not available in apt?
[07:11] <cadence> the PIM i am trying to install said that library is what i need for it
[07:11] <danko123456> Just go with it is my advice
[07:11] <danko123456> :)
[07:12] <cadence> no, its not in apt
[07:12] <JustOneIt> blujay: thanx! :)
[07:12] <Ksmurf> go with it?
[07:12] <blujay> cadence: what does install.sh do?
[07:12] <danko123456> Like, yeah, I dont know...maybe its stupid...
[07:13] <Ksmurf> shell script right?
[07:13] <fsapo> anyone here knows where i can find these deb packages: gawn and libpvm3?
[07:13] <cadence> install: cannot stat `libborqt-6.9.0-qt2.3.so': No such file or directory
[07:13] <cadence> cp: cannot stat `libborqt-6.9.0-qt2.3.so': No such file or directory
[07:13] <fsapo> gawk*
[07:13] <cadence> is what it spits out
[07:13] <blujay> cadence: and where is taht file?
[07:13] <danko123456> gawk?
[07:13] <cadence> on the desktop
[07:13] <danko123456> isnt taht standard installed?
[07:14] <blujay> cadence: and where is the install.sh script?
[07:14] <Ksmurf> thanks all for the help... off to read the starters guide
[07:14] <danko123456> bye
[07:14] <blacknyx> guys, is installing things like MPlayer still a gigantic hassle with 20 seperate things to install?
[07:14] <danko123456> cya
[07:14] <cadence> the script is with the rest of the files
[07:14] <danko123456> it nmay be, blacknyx
[07:14] <blujay> cadence: which is where?
[07:14] <blujay> blacknyx: google?
[07:14] <lexxan> blacknyx, Not if you use a package.
[07:14] <danko123456> since you ned support for restricted formats...
[07:15] <lexxan> ?? restricted
[07:15] <[uhelp] > restricted: To find out more about java, dvd playing, codecs etc. see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:15] <blacknyx> blujay: google's too vague
[07:15] <blujay> danko123456: all you need is w32codecs and totem-xine
[07:15] <danko123456> thats what I use...
[07:15] <danko123456> Xine.
[07:15] <blujay> blacknyx: google.com/search?q=ubuntu+mplayer
[07:15] <danko123456> XineUi.
[07:15] <cadence> um its all located in a directory placed on my desktop
[07:15] <danko123456> It works as good as Mplayer did for me,..
[07:15] <cadence> does it need to be launched from a specific place?
[07:15] <blujay> cadence: is there a readme?
[07:15] <danko123456> then send the install.sh to that folder.
[07:15] <blujay> cadence: or a file called "INSTALL"?
[07:16] <blacknyx> blujay:  still vague.  still doesn't answer the specific question if ubuntu has made it an easier process to install large program with lots of dependancies such as MPlayer
[07:16] <danko123456> or read what thje script does if you can understand it
[07:16] <cadence> nope so singular file called install
[07:16] <danko123456> yes, they havem blacknyx
[07:16] <blujay> blacknyx: second hit: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21138.html
[07:16] <danko123456> not that it worked for me...
[07:16] <Raskall> can I hope that I can apt-get upgrade to get clamav 0.84 soon?
[07:16] <lexxan> blacknyx, I just gave you the link.
[07:17] <kompulsive> anyone here have much experience when it comes to intrusion detection?
[07:17] <blujay> kompulsive: looked at snort?
[07:17] <danko123456> heh, rear intrusion?
[07:17] <kompulsive> blujay; i'm totally a UNIX n00b ;-(
[07:18] <blujay> blacknyx: "is it easier" is not a very specific question either.  Read that URL I sent you, it has all the information you need (and it was the second Google hit...)
[07:18] <blujay> kompulsive: google for "snort ids"
[07:18] <kompulsive> but i have a domain now and webspace with cpanel so i'm going to have to figure out some kind of logging system/intrusion detection solution before i can start working with oscommerce
[07:18] <blujay> kompulsive: are you running your own server?
[07:18] <crimsun> fsapo: please _uncomment_ the main restricted repos
[07:18] <crimsun> fsapo: additionally, comment out the stable debian-marillat
[07:19] <crimsun> fsapo: then update, and install transcode
[07:19] <blacknyx> blujay: well since you already dont appreciate my asking a question, I figured i'd be as vague as I could.   This link isn't telling me what I didn't already know
[07:19] <fsapo> crimsun, i m downloading the gawk package.. hope it works
[07:19] <danko123456> Be more specific, blacknyx
[07:19] <blujay> blacknyx: Well, I mean, if you need to install it, there's how...so...
[07:19] <danko123456> What exactly do you mean?
[07:20] <cadence> well i opened the script up in texteditor and then pasted it into the terminal... got a new error:  /sbin/ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied
[07:20] <blujay> blacknyx: if you want an easier from-the-start process, I guess you'll need to wait for breezy
[07:20] <kompulsive> blujay; no ;-( it's like VPN i'm pretty sure. i have a shared IP.
[07:20] <danko123456> not that I will have any info for you:P
[07:20] <blacknyx> danko12345:  I'm merely asking as a gentoo user wanting to go back to ubuntu bot remembering my frustration with having to install 30 components seperately for MPlayer
[07:20] <blujay> kompulsive: you should probably ask your hosting provider if they have any IDS
[07:20] <blacknyx> and not all of them having all of their dependancies so having to search for dependancies for those dependancies
[07:20] <blacknyx> so I gave up.
[07:20] <blujay> blacknyx: just use that repository, install mplyaer, and that's it.  apt takes care of dependencies for you.
[07:21] <lexxan> blacknyx, Stop being stubborn. Google is vague? Oh I know that link? it _EXPLAINS_ exactly how to install it.
[07:21] <danko123456> oh, ok...
[07:21] <blacknyx> ok ok sorry I'm not trying to be stubborn, I just kinda thought it'd be a simple answer.  I've been reading manuals for the past 5 days straight, I'm tired and want something simple.
[07:22] <fsapo> OMFG IT WORKED!
[07:22] <danko123456> well, I tried, and it was harder than in Warty, meaning the same instructions that worked in warty, do not work in hoary.
[07:22] <lexxan> It takes about 30 seconds to put in the marillat repository
[07:22] <fsapo> crimsun, installing :D
[07:22] <blujay> blacknyx: it won't take more than 5 minutes to do what it says there
[07:22] <lexxan> and apt-get update
[07:22] <danko123456> great, fsapo.
[07:22] <fsapo> crimsun, i ve commented everything but the unstable release.. and now its installing :D
[07:22] <fsapo> danko123456, man i m trying to install it for a week O_O
[07:22] <lexxan> ?? repository
[07:23] <[uhelp] > repository[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:23] <lexxan> hrm
[07:23] <danko123456> nice, fsapo.
[07:23] <fsapo> ^^
[07:23] <danko123456> but then I use xine now...
[07:23] <danko123456> Im open minded.
[07:23] <danko123456> Use anything that works.
[07:24] <fsapo> now i just need some fireworks to celebrate haha
[07:24] <danko123456> heh
[07:24] <lexxan> blacknyx, echo deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <lexxan> then apt-get update
[07:25] <lexxan> then apt-get install mplayer-386=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 0
[07:25] <lexxan> as long as you have multiverse enabled.
[07:25] <lexxan> oops
[07:25] <lexxan> apt-get install mplayer-386=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6
[07:25] <blacknyx> thanks lexxan.  I'll save that in case I decide to install ubuntu I can do it simply.
[07:25] <Anubis> menu editor adds but does not seem to remove entries
[07:26] <danko123456> all or some?
[07:26] <Anubis> huh?
[07:26] <crimsun> lexxan: except you don't want to use the unstable repo with Hoary.
[07:26] <danko123456> some dont want to lleave on mine
[07:26] <crimsun> lexxan: you want to use the testing repo with Hoary.
[07:27] <Bachus9000> OK, guys, I've got a tiny problem with xcompmgr and the gnome panel.  Basically, it's drawing the shadows regardless of whether or not I use the -C option.  I don't see this behavior with XFCE.
[07:27] <lexxan> crimsun, Ah well I should find the wiki page that says to use unstable
[07:27] <crimsun> lexxan: and fix it.
[07:27] <Anubis> now I have a doublr realplayer entry
[07:28] <danko123456> heh mine too
[07:28] <danko123456> I deleted, and it added one
[07:28] <Anubis> it won't delete
[07:28] <Ksmurf> what does gpg do?
[07:28] <danko123456> I like how OS x you just drag it off the dock, and it goes away..
[07:28] <Anubis> pgp keys
[07:28] <danko123456> maybe gnome should do that,
[07:29] <Ksmurf> ok pgp ... encrpytion or athentication?
[07:30] <Anubis> both
[07:30] <danko123456> I didnt fail one of my courses...yay...
[07:30] <danko123456> I just found out today
[07:30] <danko123456> I got a B...
[07:30] <Ksmurf> just the info transfer or on my system?
[07:30] <danko123456> not thaT it is related...
[07:30] <danko123456> I should get a life, it seems.
[07:30] <danko123456> :)
[07:31] <Raskall> where do I send a request for getting a package updated?
[07:31] <danko123456> santa:P
[07:32] <danko123456> how can I change my quit message in Gaim, or IRC?
[07:32] <mebaran151> hey
[07:32] <danko123456> hey
[07:32] <mebaran151> how can I make a bash script echo its steps
[07:33] <mebaran151> would that be echo on
[07:33] <mebaran151> jsut on the the top
[07:33] <IIIEars1> Hi - Is it possible to work with a graphical interface as root?
[07:33] <p0m> Short answer, no.
[07:33] <danko123456> Longer answer, why?
[07:34] <p0m> Heh.
[07:34] <IIIEars1> ouch - i am really struggling with the command line.
[07:34] <danko123456> Ok...
[07:34] <p0m> danko123456: In your gaim settings there should be an option for them.
[07:34] <gorilla_> why?? because bad things can potentially happen if you run X as root.
[07:35] <p0m> IIIEars1: The long answer is that Sudo is used instead of a root user.
[07:35] <danko123456> IIIEars1: http://ubuntuguide.org/#allowrootlogingnome
[07:35] <p0m> ?? SudoRoot
[07:35] <[uhelp] > sudoroot[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:35] <danko123456> This page may be it?
[07:35] <p0m> ?? RootSudo
[07:35] <[uhelp] > rootsudo[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:35] <IIIEars1> Just moving a fortune text from the desktop to /games/fortune is giving me a headache - lol
[07:35] <p0m> Weird.
[07:35] <lexxan> ?? root
[07:35] <[uhelp] > root: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:35] <lexxan> ?? sudo
[07:35] <[uhelp] > sudo: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:35] <danko123456> Ill tell you how exactly.
[07:35] <lexxan> heh
[07:35] <p0m> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:35] <IIIEars1> Ya-ay!
[07:35] <p0m> lexxan: Too late.
[07:35] <p0m> :)
[07:35] <danko123456> If you want, tell me file...
[07:35] <danko123456> And whatever..
[07:35] <Anubis> so my menu is just borked?
[07:35] <gorilla_> p0m, no just sudo ... for example "sudo whoami" enter your own password when prompted.
[07:36] <danko123456> Not sure, Anubis...
[07:36] <IIIEars1> lol - he needs a throttle - i question a minute maybe
[07:36] <p0m> gorilla_: Err?
[07:36] <danko123456> IIIEars1: that works?
[07:36] <Anubis> it says its deleting the entry
[07:36] <Anubis> but its still there
[07:36] <IIIEars1> fotunes-new to games/fortune
[07:36] <danko123456> thats just a gdm settings.
[07:36] <Anubis> should I kill the panel?
[07:36] <p0m> To be honest, it's rather silly to run Gnome or anything as root really.
[07:36] <danko123456> p0m: did you see taht page I had?
[07:36] <danko123456> try, Anubis
[07:37] <danko123456> it works, i guess..
[07:37] <lexxan> Anubis, I can't remove enemy-territory from my menu.. pisses me off =[
[07:37] <danko123456> Just by delfault its off.
[07:37] <fsapo> anyone here knows if those onboard winmodems works with ubuntu?
[07:37] <IIIEars1> uhelp - you are a nice bot glad you have joined #ubuntu
[07:37] <danko123456> cause more ppl dont want it that do, I guess.
[07:37] <p0m> IIIEars1: So you want to be root so you can read fortune on the desktop?
[07:38] <IIIEars1> just wanted to add new text to the screensaver (sheepish grin)
[07:38] <Anubis> amazing
[07:38] <p0m> Err.
[07:38] <danko123456> sudo mv fortunes-new /games/fortune
[07:38] <Anubis> something as simple as a menu editor
[07:38] <danko123456> but, its all case sensitive, and all, be careful
[07:38] <p0m> Why not just run the config program with sudo?
[07:38] <Anubis> why would gnome do this?
[07:38] <p0m> gnome-control-panel or something.
[07:38] <danko123456> if you are in that folder where the fortunes-new is.
[07:38] <p0m> Anubis: What's the program?
[07:39] <IIIEars1> okay - a new os hasn't helped my spelling very much - grin
[07:39] <p0m> That you're trying to remove.
[07:39] <danko123456> menu editor.
[07:39] <danko123456> pom
[07:39] <p0m> ^^
[07:39] <danko123456> It will eventally help, IIIEars1
[07:39] <danko123456> Yu cant help it...
[07:39] <mebaran151> how do I set DMA for an sda drive 9 (sata scsi)
[07:39] <mebaran151> I mean
[07:40] <mebaran151> I have a /dev/sda
[07:40] <p0m> Isn't DMA normally set in the bios?
[07:40] <mebaran151> I set it in the bios
[07:40] <danko123456> (00:40:08) ***[uhelp]  pets IIIEars1 hah
[07:40] <IIIEars1> danko123456 - Thanks
[07:40] <mebaran151> but the kernel needs to actually use it
[07:40] <danko123456> Yeah, youre welcome...
[07:40] <lexxan> mebaran151, Might wanna check out hdparm
[07:40] <danko123456> NOt familiar with the shell, eh?
[07:40] <mebaran151> hdparm
[07:40] <mebaran151> does not work
[07:40] <p0m> mebaran151: That's what I was about to suggest.
[07:40] <lexxan> ya I dunno never used sata <-- poor
[07:41] <danko123456> IIIEars1: hey, you got that page on enabling login with root?
[07:41] <mebaran151> wrong ioctl (hdparm was meant for ide drivers, not scsi based)
[07:41] <danko123456> you can log in.
[07:41] <mebaran151> do you think it might be set now
[07:41] <p0m> mebaran151: Did you try hdparm -d 1 /dev/sda9 ?
[07:41] <IIIEars1> 1 week and 1day using linux - 3 days uptime no reboots err-- could ya tell me is my computer really running? - grin
[07:41] <Raskall> Agh... someone is trying to hack into my sshd 2-3 times a day. I'd really like to have something to answer with.
[07:42] <lexxan> Raskall, devote your life to IRC and meet all the hackers on EFNet.
[07:42] <p0m> Raskall: Everyone's is, deal with it :P
[07:42] <mebaran151> p0m, yeah
[07:42] <danko123456> lexxan: hah?!
[07:42] <xxviperzlairxx> soo i have a stupid question.... I am trying to boot from the LiveCD and I cant get it to boot
[07:42] <IIIEars1> IRC is scarey - the wise waiting for the unwarey.
[07:42] <mebaran151> but it reports the ioctl was inappropriate
[07:42] <mebaran151> that makes sense as I am not using an ide driver
[07:43] <mebaran151> I am using a scsi driver
[07:43] <mebaran151> under libata
[07:43] <p0m> mebaran151: But hdparm should work with sata scsi.
[07:43] <danko123456> xxviperzlairxx: did you download it?
[07:43] <Raskall> lexxan: :) I am not very afraid. Have all the latest updates and only allows pubkey-auth with 2K keys, but it's still a bit annoying that they waste resources on my server.
[07:43] <Ksmurf> is there anyway to find my critical voltages and temps in linux?
[07:43] <xxviperzlairxx> yes
[07:43] <xxviperzlairxx> and Burne dit to a CD
[07:44] <Raskall> hey hey hey.. this one has webmin open to the net.
[07:44] <danko123456> how did you download?
[07:44] <danko123456> ftp?http?torrent?
[07:44] <p0m> Ksmurf: Search for lm-sensors on the forum. There's a guide to setting it up.
[07:44] <danko123456> ?? ftp
[07:44] <[uhelp] > ftp[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:44] <xxviperzlairxx> uhh one sec ill check
[07:44] <danko123456> ?? go learn it...
[07:44] <p0m> mebaran151: try this -- for disc in `ls /dev/sd?`; do hdparm $disc; done
[07:44] <[uhelp] > go[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:45] <fsapo> Ksmurf, http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app_list&gd_sub_app_list=37
[07:45] <p0m> fsapo: Got to make sure lm-sensors is working first :)
[07:45] <xxviperzlairxx> http
[07:45] <underlord> who do i nag to update the monodevelop package in hoary to the latest version?
[07:45] <danko123456> crimsun: is that good? could it be a checksum error?
[07:46] <Hardy`> is anyone here particularly good with setting up ALSA?
[07:46] <damnhatesyou> hello is the Unofficial Ubuntu Add-On CD from http://ubuntuguide.org  any good???
[07:46] <p0m> Got it!
[07:46] <p0m> mebaran151: sdparm
[07:46] <mebaran151> sdparm
[07:46] <mebaran151> ok
[07:46] <IIIEars1> Can i add an alias to cd to type in the the desktop or home path auto magically?
[07:46] <mebaran151> let me try it
[07:46] <danko123456> damnhatesyou: what do you mean good?
[07:46] <lexxan> ** danko
[07:46] <[uhelp] > Found 1 matches. Sorted: danko. (0.002s)
[07:46] <Hardy`> particularly, with say a compile error 1 when "make" ing the alsa driver?
[07:47] <mebaran151> p0m, not installed
[07:47] <p0m> underlord: tseng (Brandon Hale)
[07:47] <mebaran151> I got to go find IT
[07:47] <lexxan> wtf
[07:47] <p0m> mebaran151: That would be a good idea :) sdparm works mainly the same way.
[07:47] <lexxan> who is brandon hale?
[07:47] <mebaran151> it isnt in apt
[07:47] <p0m> lexxan: It's the Mono master.
[07:47] <mebaran151> what might it be part of
[07:47] <p0m> He's*
[07:47] <damnhatesyou> is it worth downloading my main linux pc does not have the net
[07:47] <xxviperzlairxx> any one have suggestiongs on how to get the LiveCD to boot?
[07:47] <lexxan> my old best friend has that name
[07:48] <danko123456> xxviperzlairxx: you know how to check the checksum md5 something?
[07:48] <lexxan> but he moved to toronto canada
[07:48] <p0m> mebaran151: sd, just search through synaptic for "scsi"
[07:48] <xxviperzlairxx> i do not
[07:48] <danko123456> k, giev me a sec, maybe I can find out.
[07:48] <p0m> xxviperzlairxx: What is the error message?
[07:48] <xxviperzlairxx> no error message, i am trying to boot the LiveCD
[07:49] <danko123456> md5sum file.iso > file.iso.md5
[07:49] <jiyuu0> damnhatesyou, the add-on cd is good for ppl who doesn't have internet
[07:49] <fsapo> anyone here knows if those onboard winmodems works with ubuntu?
[07:49] <xxviperzlairxx> I have an AMD64 so i got the 64 version (.iso) and burn it to a CD
[07:49] <danko123456> md5sum -c file.iso.md5
[07:49] <danko123456> after that.
[07:49] <danko123456> try that.
[07:49] <damnhatesyou> cool thank will it let me watch divx movies
[07:49] <p0m> mebaran151: If you can't find it, the main page for sdparm is -> http://sg.torque.net/sg/
[07:49] <jiyuu0> i'm uploading a new version now... it includes a script to install all the add-on apps... but by answer [y/n] 
[07:49] <Parkway> No luck with any of the ?? wireless help.  Cant get this damn thing to work period.
[07:49] <holycow> http://dilbert.com/  <-- *gasp*
[07:49] <xxviperzlairxx> do i have to have linux for it to work?
[07:49] <holycow> i wonder what tommorrows strip is going to be
[07:49] <holycow> -_-
[07:49] <p0m> ?? sdparm
[07:49] <[uhelp] > sdparm[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:49] <mebaran151> which of these is right
[07:49] <synd> Parkway: ndiswrapper?
[07:49] <p0m> [uhelp]  sdparm is http://sg.torque.net/sg/
[07:49] <mebaran151> I found in the repos
[07:50] <p0m> mebaran151: Cool.
[07:50] <mebaran151> scsitools, blktool
[07:50] <danko123456> rightm, yes
[07:50] <danko123456> you do
[07:50] <Parkway> Dont think Ive tried that because I wasnt sure what to do with it
[07:50] <p0m> Parkway: What's the card you're using?
[07:50] <mebaran151> and sg3-tools
[07:50] <danko123456> that sucks, eh?
[07:50] <mebaran151> I dont think it is sg3
[07:50] <p0m> mebaran151: It should be sg3-tools.
[07:50] <Parkway> Its a USB Adapter, Linksys
[07:50] <mebaran151> no but it isnt an sg driver
[07:50] <mebaran151> it is sd
[07:50] <danko123456> not really knowledgeable, I heard you can do that, to see if it is good.
[07:51] <mebaran151> I read that in my mplayer manual ;)
[07:51] <synd> Parkway: do you have the WinXP drivers for it?
[07:51] <Parkway> On a CD, ya
[07:51] <synd> Parkway: i can walk you thru it
[07:51] <p0m> mebaran151: sg3 is an sd driver. It stands for SCSI generic driver 3.
[07:51] <danko123456> hi ogra
[07:51] <xxviperzlairxx> Do you have to be running linux for the LiveCD to boot?
[07:51] <synd> xxviperzlairxx: no
[07:51] <p0m> xxviperzlairxx: No.
[07:51] <synd> xxviperzlairxx: you have to boot from CD
[07:51] <xxviperzlairxx> i cannot get the CD to boot
[07:51] <Parkway> Great! I mean, I have it in my Network list, and I can ifconfig and it shows up, but no signal??
[07:52] <danko123456> off course not, that is the idea;)
[07:52] <lexxan> xxviperzlairxx, Check your BIOS and make sure its set to boot off cdrom.
[07:52] <synd> xxviperzlairxx: you press like f12 right when you start up to check the boot sequence
[07:53] <xxviperzlairxx> ok, ill go try
[07:53] <synd> xxviperzlairxx: some computers check the cdrom/floppy before booting off the HD, some done
[07:53] <synd> dont
[07:53] <lexxan> f12 or f1 f2
[07:53] <lexxan> del
[07:53] <lexxan> usually
[07:53] <synd> yeah
[07:53] <p0m> synd: Most don't. It wastes bootup time.
[07:53] <synd> it should say for a brief period of time
[07:53] <Raskall> is there a way to search for a certain host on irc? I have found out that the person hacking me is at uphosting.com.br
[07:53] <mebaran151> looks like I need sgparm
[07:53] <mebaran151> sdparm I mean
[07:53] <mebaran151> they should put it in the archive
[07:53] <p0m> Raskall: Unless they've gotten in, they aren't hacking.
[07:53] <danko123456> they should, like mine
[07:53] <Hardy|ALSAsucks> ?? alsa
[07:53] <[uhelp] > alsa[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:53] <p0m> mebaran151: http://sg.torque.net/sg/sdparm.html
[07:54] <Raskall> p0m: ok.. trying, then..
[07:54] <p0m> There's a deb there.
[07:54] <lexxan> p0m, I added it just for u :P
[07:54] <p0m> lexxan: Added?
[07:54] <lexxan> ?? sdparm
[07:54] <[uhelp] > sdparm: Check out - http://sg.torque.net/sg/sdparm.html
[07:54] <lexxan> heh
[07:54] <p0m> Ohh, thanks.
[07:54] <Parkway> synd, Any help is much appreciated ;)
[07:54] <p0m> How'd you add it?
[07:55] <me101> hi guys
[07:55] <p0m> Hi me101.
[07:55] <me101> wich is the best Linux OS
[07:55] <danko123456> haha
[07:55] <danko123456> awesome
[07:55] <p0m> Haha.
[07:55] <lexxan> p0m, with my secret commands@)@$*$%
[07:55] <p0m> me101: Are you trying to start a flamewar? :)
[07:55] <synd> me101: ubuntu, of course
[07:55] <danko123456> www.bestLinuxOS.org
[07:55] <paulproteus> me101: Peanut Linux is the best.
[07:55] <synd> Parkway: PM?
[07:55] <p0m> lexxan: Ohh, you own the bot?
[07:56] <lexxan> ya just started it the other day
[07:56] <lexxan> lackin definitions :P
[07:56] <p0m> Cool.
[07:56] <danko123456> its funny, though
[07:56] <me101> I've just installed unbutu, fantastic stuff
[07:56] <danko123456> You **danko
[07:56] <p0m> You might want to add a in-channel command for people to add to it.
[07:56] <danko123456> I agree, pretty good
[07:56] <synd> mandrake is nice
[07:56] <danko123456> I love it too...
[07:56] <synd> linspire
[07:56] <fsapo> me101, now just uninstall windows and be happy :)
[07:56] <lexxan> People who want to add can ask lol
[07:56] <lexxan> As if i'm gonna let everyone go nuts.
[07:56] <synd> fsapo: i agree :D
[07:56] <shido6> I still keep and run my xp
[07:56] <shido6> but a lot less now that I have ubuntu
[07:57] <p0m> lexxan: Just add a userlist of some form, so that you can let people you know use it.
[07:57] <lexxan> its already set that way
[07:57] <fsapo> synd, man.. i dont regret uninstalling that shit!
[07:57] <lexxan> !learn add danko Channel Clown.
[07:57] <p0m> lexxan: Ohh, fair enough.
[07:57] <me101> in the way Linux has advanced, leaves MS for dead
[07:57] <shido6> anyone familiar with getting OpenAL and esd to work?
[07:57] <p0m> ?? danko
[07:57] <[uhelp] > danko: Channel Clown.
[07:57] <danko123456> funk that...
[07:57] <danko123456> I try to help...
[07:57] <synd> fsapo: me too.. it was just taking up space :D
[07:57] <lexxan> hahaha
[07:57] <me101> there is one problem, however
[07:57] <danko123456> I helped a couple ppl...
[07:57] <lexxan> !learn del danko
[07:58] <danko123456> Anyhow, thats not nice...hah
[07:58] <lexxan> just messin with ya =] 
[07:58] <danko123456> But, its funny,.
[07:58] <me101> which is the problem that I had (lets hope)
[07:58] <danko123456> :)
[07:58] <me101> didnt know which version of Linux to install
[07:58] <fsapo> synd, and thanx to the epic games i can play ut2k4 :D i love those guys haha
[07:58] <dell500> i'm trying to isntall cedega cvs, i was wondering if anyone here has done it?
[07:58] <lexxan> I don't know much.. i just point people to wikis :P
[07:58] <me101> there are a few
[07:58] <p0m> mebaran151: You still there?
[07:59] <p0m> me101: If you get Ubuntu, Canonical will ship it to you :)
[07:59] <Parkway> ?? cedega
[07:59] <[uhelp] > cedega[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:59] <danko123456> yeah, Canonical covers even the shipping, and cd, thats funny.
[07:59] <Anubis> crimsun, is there some real help comming in the way of fixing the gnome menu system ie. editing?
[07:59] <fsapo> p0m, i ve asked for a cd 2 weeks ago.. i m wondering when is it going to arive here
[08:00] <me101> Unbutu is fantastic in the way it installs
[08:00] <p0m> me101: http://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[08:00] <lexxan> off topic.. anyone here seen man of the house with tommy lee jones
[08:00] <lexxan> isn't it 4-6 weeks
[08:00] <p0m> fsapo: Ubuntu Down Under was just on, so I'd say some time in the next two-three weeks.
[08:00] <p0m> Or what lexxan said.
[08:00] <me101> it even, I think, updates itself on the Net while it installs
[08:00] <fsapo> p0m, hum.. nice :)
[08:00] <me101> thanks p0m
[08:01] <danko123456> me101: I think it hjust says that
[08:01] <fsapo> lexxan, i dont have problems with the download but i want the pretty cd :D
[08:01] <danko123456> told me that and I was not even connected.
[08:01] <p0m> danko123456: I'm interested to see if Canonical will support the free shipping of ubuntu-sbs and ubuntu-server when they come out.
[08:01] <danko123456> but, yeah very cmooth default.
[08:01] <danko123456> oh, so new versions?
[08:01] <p0m> I think mainly they will be metapackages, but it would be nice to see separate Iso's.
[08:01] <danko123456> that is kinda against what they said in the beginning.
[08:01] <danko123456> But, whatever, I dont need uit.
[08:02] <p0m> danko123456: They're being designed by volunteers. One's mainly going to be like Windows SBS.
[08:02] <me101> amayzing, it has everything you need to get started
[08:02] <danko123456> what is that sbs anyhow?
[08:02] <Ksmurf> Can someone pls point me in the direction of where ubantu store types of files... I figure / is system files ... /usr are user configs /home are user docs and such... but I'm lokking for a package that was install with synaptic and I am suppose to find the .sh file
[08:02] <danko123456> right.
[08:02] <danko123456> And more...
[08:02] <p0m> It's mail, dns, directory etc all integrated.
[08:02] <danko123456> And after you connect to the internet, anything you want to install is at your fingertips.
[08:02] <p0m> Ksmurf: What program was it?
[08:02] <danko123456> amazing, as you say.
[08:02] <lexxan> Ksmurf, If you right click the package and goto properties.. you can see the installed files tab.
[08:02] <Ksmurf> lmsensors
[08:02] <danko123456> the real stuff, how it should be.
[08:03] <Ksmurf> thanks lexxan
[08:03] <abarbaccia> hey all - how do i upgrade to breezy from hoary
[08:03] <p0m> Ksmurf: The sh doesn't come with the install :) You just have to copy and paste the script the howto supplies.
[08:03] <lexxan> That would be a downgrade.
[08:03] <abarbaccia> or run the "unstable" whatever you want to call it
[08:03] <fsapo> man.. ubuntu just isnt perfect for one think
[08:03] <fsapo> it doesnt make coffee for me
[08:03] <lexxan> oh i misread
[08:03] <p0m> lexxan beat it to me.
[08:03] <lexxan> n/m :P
[08:03] <p0m> Heh.
[08:03] <lexxan> i need sleep
[08:04] <fsapo> when ubuntu learn how to make coffee it will be the perfect os :)
[08:04] <lexxan> or more pot
[08:04] <p0m> fsapo: Google around, there's a coffee brewing program. There's also an eggtimer.
[08:04] <me101> Bill Gates can now go and get stuffed
[08:04] <abarbaccia> hey guys - anybody here know how to use breezy
[08:04] <fsapo> p0m, hehe i know it.. i m just kidding :)
[08:04] <p0m> There's also a guide to make coffee machines controllable by serial.
[08:04] <danko123456> I misread it because of you too.
[08:04] <danko123456> pretty weird.
[08:04] <me101> how do I know wether I've got the latest version????????
[08:04] <p0m> I made one, all you need is a couple of resistors, a relay, and some wire.
[08:05] <p0m> me101: 5.04 is the latest version.
[08:05] <danko123456> well, not yet, me101
[08:05] <Anubis> fsapo, no, when it learns to allow menu editing it will be perfect
[08:05] <paulproteus> fsapo: Especially given the color scheme.
[08:05] <fsapo> Anubis, hehe
[08:05] <p0m> There's a testing version of Breezy about, which is 5.10? but it apparently isn't all that stable yet.
[08:05] <danko123456> me101: tell me what word)(hoary, warty) in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:05] <me101> thanks p0m, but how can I tell whats installed on my system
[08:06] <fsapo> i m wondering why my clock is ALWAYS wrong =/
[08:06] <me101> because as I access ABOUT, it takes me to a WebSite
[08:06] <p0m> me101: Ohh.
[08:06] <p0m> I don't think a uname -a would suffice, would it.
[08:07] <danko123456> me101: tell me what word)(hoary, warty) in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:07] <danko123456> add is I guess.
[08:07] <Seveas> me101, 'sudo cat /etc/issue' will tell you which version of ubuntu you have
[08:07] <Seveas> me101, dpkg -l will tell you the version of each installed package
 dont quiet understand you, sorry
[08:09] <danko123456> thats cool
[08:09] <danko123456> open a terminal...
[08:10] <danko123456> and do what Seveas said
[08:10] <da_bon_bon> hiya all
[08:10] <me101> ahh, I see in the command line ????
[08:10] <danko123456> heyy
[08:10] <da_bon_bon> danko123456: hi
[08:10] <danko123456> right
[08:10] <danko123456> 'sudo cat /etc/issue'
[08:10] <danko123456> and enter
[08:10] <danko123456> no '
[08:12] <danko123456> hehe, so homewrok done?
[08:12] <me101> ok
[08:12] <danko123456> what version did it tell you?
[08:12] <me101> I got it
[08:12] <me101> thanks
[08:13] <danko123456> welcome
[08:13] <danko123456> which version?
[08:13] <me101> 4.10
[08:13] <danko123456> that is the older.
[08:13] <danko123456> Did you just install?
[08:13] <danko123456> just now?
[08:13] <crimsun> Anubis: I'm not current with any
[08:13] <danko123456> No addons?
[08:14] <me101> yes <danko123456
[08:14] <danko123456> Cool, you can upgrade then, you never changed anything in the sources.list file?
[08:14] <Seveas> me101, if you have a broadband connection, it is advisory to upgrade to hoary
[08:14] <me101> nice interface, but obviously one would still have to get to know some code
[08:15] <ivoks> hi folks
[08:15] <me101> <danko123456,......... nothing changed
[08:15] <ivoks> i hate ubuntu :)
[08:15] <danko123456> cool, open a terminal, and type in gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:15] <danko123456> change every entry of warty to hoary
[08:15] <me101> thanks Seveas
[08:15] <ivoks> :)
[08:16] <danko123456> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:16] <danko123456> then cahnge ity
[08:16] <danko123456> then save it and close.
[08:16] <danko123456> and then type in sudo apt-get update
[08:16] <harsha_> can someone help me install Yahoo Messenger in Kubuntu Hoary release
[08:16] <danko123456> and when that is done, apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:16] <paulproteus> harsha_: Use Kopete or gaim instead.
[08:17] <danko123456> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:17] <p0m> harsha_: That would be kopete or gaim.
[08:17] <paulproteus> Yahoo messenger for Linux totally sucks.
[08:17] <danko123456> then youll update to the newer...
[08:17] <harsha_> yeah i have both
[08:17] <p0m> paulproteus: They actually released a client for it?
[08:17] <harsha_> but i just want to try yahoo msnger once
[08:17] <paulproteus> p0m: Yeah, there's an official AIM, too.  It's total trash.
[08:17] <gorilla_> paulproteus, try gaim :-)
[08:17] <paulproteus> gorilla_: I use gaim!  I'm warning harsha_ to avoid the commercial, sucky clients. :)
[08:17] <me101> thanks danko123456
[08:18] <harsha_> yeah i will have to go back to GAIM
[08:18] <me101> I'll follow instructions
[08:18] <paulproteus> harsha_: Kopete - have you tried that?
[08:18] <harsha_> yeah
[08:18] <paulproteus> harsha_: If you really want, ask me again and I'll look into this closed-source Yahoo messenger.
[08:18] <harsha_> kopete is better than GaiM
[08:18] <lexxan> all I ask of gaim is to change their default sounds
[08:18] <harsha_> hey paul may be u can help me
[08:18] <abarbaccia> harsha_, no way - kopete is terrible i think
[08:18] <p0m> You could also try Psi and Exodus, connecting to Yahoo Gateways through the Jabber Network.
[08:19] <paulproteus> harsha_: http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html - follow the instructions for Debian
[08:19] <harsha_> GAIM has access to yahoo,MSN and all msngers
[08:19] <harsha_> haan
[08:19] <Seveas> kopete starts with a K, so it must suck...
[08:19] <harsha_> i have done everything
[08:19] <harsha_> including the DEPS
[08:19] <harsha_> i have a problem running it
[08:19] <paulproteus> Seveas: gaim starts with a G, it must suck.
[08:19] <harsha_> i get the error
[08:19] <harsha_> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[08:19] <harsha_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:19] <harsha_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:19] <harsha_> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[08:19] <paulproteus> harsha_: You must stop running it as root.
[08:20] <lexxan> harsha_, Are you su'd to root?
[08:20] <harsha_> when i try to run it in a X terminal
[08:20] <p0m> paulproteus: Good call.
[08:20] <lexxan> heh
[08:20] <danko123456> me101: welcome
[08:20] <danko123456> why hate?
[08:20] <harsha_> oh i see
[08:20] <lexxan> I've done that way too many times
[08:20] <harsha_> hang on paul
[08:20] <harsha_> lemme try it
[08:20] <paulproteus> (Score one point for pattern recognition ;)
[08:20] <harsha_> hey paulproteus
[08:21] <harsha_> i didnt work as a normal user too
[08:21] <harsha_> the error says
[08:21] <harsha_> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[08:21] <me101> <danko123456, .. sources.list opened read only
[08:21] <harsha_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:21] <harsha_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:21] <harsha_> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[08:21] <harsha_> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[08:21] <harsha_> Segmentation fault
[08:21] <p0m> I think they broke it.
[08:21] <bob2> the program is horribly broken
[08:21] <Seveas> isn't the display just :0
[08:21] <bob2> or you have disk corruption/bade ram
[08:21] <Seveas> and not :0.0
[08:22] <p0m> bob2: It's yahoo, I'd put all my money on horribly broken.
[08:22] <paulproteus> Seveas: :0.0 - display 0, screen 0
[08:22] <Seveas> k
[08:22] <p0m> You could always try to strace it.
[08:22] <paulproteus> That'd be fun! :)
[08:22] <Seveas> ouch
[08:23] <p0m> Seveas: :0 is over the network :)
[08:23] <p0m> Wherease :0.0 is local.
[08:23] <Seveas> thou shall not strace closed source programs if thou does not wish to despair :)
[08:23] <p0m> Haha.
[08:23] <p0m> I have IDA running here.
[08:23] <bob2> no
[08:23] <bob2> :0 is local, too
[08:23] <paulproteus> p0m: That's untrue.
[08:23] <p0m> Well, there you go.
[08:23] <paulproteus> :0.0 - display 0, screen 0
[08:24] <paulproteus> Xinerama lets you use different screens on a single display, iirc.
[08:24] <fsapo> is anyone here used to make "dvd backups?"
[08:24] <bob2> yup
[08:24] <harsha_> so paulproteus
[08:24] <paulproteus> harsha_: go on
[08:24] <harsha_> is there any solution
[08:25] <paulproteus> You can try removing that package...
[08:25] <fsapo> i wanna know how to make a double-layer dvd fit on a 4.7gb midia =/ anyone here knows how to make it?
[08:25] <paulproteus> ...and installing the one for RedHat 9.
[08:25] <paulproteus> You'd have to convert it to a Debian package using "alien", but that should be easy enough.
[08:25] <harsha_> which package
[08:25] <paulproteus> http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html - download the redhat9 package
[08:25] <harsha_> can u help me do that
[08:25] <harsha_> and then
[08:25] <paulproteus> It's really late and I must sleep.
[08:26] <paulproteus> alien -d filename.rpm
[08:26] <_4strO> then after dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:26] <_4strO> :p
[08:26] <bob2> why don't you just use gaim?
[08:27] <harsha_> thanx paul i hope that works
[08:27] <harsha_> hey bob2
[08:27] <harsha_> i think i wll go back to gaim
[08:27] <harsha_> gaim does not support yahoo smileys
[08:27] <p0m> fsapo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26965
[08:27] <p0m> That should be a good start.
[08:28] <danko123456> he left
[08:28] <Xirdneh> hi there, does anyone knows how to play .ogm files?, i have xine and xine-lib 01, and vlc, it tells me theres no plug in :s
[08:28] <bob2> ogm is a container
[08:28] <Xirdneh> .
[08:28] <HrdwrBoB> ...
[08:28] <bob2> you need something that supports whatever is inside it
[08:28] <HrdwrBoB> or you could just apt-get install dvdrip
[08:28] <HrdwrBoB> and use that
[08:28] <bob2> ie wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:29] <Xirdneh> so how do i know whats in it?
[08:29] <bob2> just get mplayer or whatever
[08:29] <cvncpu> hello
[08:29] <Xirdneh> mplayer also doesnt play it :s
[08:29] <bob2> then get the will windows dlls
[08:29] <bob2> ie, read that wiki page
[08:29] <Xirdneh> ok, let me go through it, thnx :p
[08:31] <danko123456> mr
[08:31] <cvncpu> when i try and compile fluxbox i get this error: checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[08:31] <cvncpu> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[08:31] <danko123456> me101: cant be readonly with  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:32] <bob2> cvncpu: install build-essential
[08:32] <me101> ok
[08:32] <cvncpu> ok
[08:32] <crimsun> cvncpu: (or use fluxbox from universe)
[08:32] <paulproteus> harsha_: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/themes.php?action=showtheme&id=66
[08:32] <paulproteus> harsha_: There are smiley packs for gaim for yahoo smileys.
[08:32] <paulproteus> that's a sample link; others may be better.
[08:33] <danko123456> me101: still read only?
[08:33] <me101> I guess automazation, like in Win XP, is yet to be achived
[08:33] <HrdwrBoB> automation
[08:34] <HrdwrBoB> no z :)
[08:34] <danko123456> well, somewhat
[08:34] <cvncpu> crimsun: get it form where?
[08:34] <danko123456> its pretty good now...
[08:34] <danko123456> just has so many options...
[08:34] <danko123456> thats the thing...its advanced.
[08:34] <me101> <HrdwrBoB.......... english teacher, .....thanks
[08:35] <crimsun> cvncpu: wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackages
[08:35] <cvncpu> crimsun: thanks
[08:36] <synd> me101: english teacher?
[08:36] <synd> me101: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=automazation
[08:36] <danko123456> windows xp == crap...
[08:36] <me101> sorry, I was just being smart
[08:37] <synd> its cool
[08:37] <synd> danko123456: everyone knows this
[08:37] <synd> we wouldnt be here if we thought otherwise
[08:38] <danko123456> me101: NO NEED TO BE SORRY, THOUGH:)
[08:38] <danko123456> HAH CAPs
[08:38] <danko123456> nuts
[08:38] <me101> movin on, now
[08:39] <me101> <danko123456, well, now its crap, having seen UBUNTU
[08:40] <danko123456> got upgraded?
[08:40] <synd> i really dont mind win2000
[08:40] <danko123456> i dont mind any...but the compariwson...
[08:40] <synd> i *hate* the fischer-price feel of xp
[08:40] <danko123456> right
[08:40] <me101> indeed
[08:40] <me101> ok
[08:40] <Rydekull> You really dont have your facts straight if you say that win2k sp4 is better then winxp sp2
[08:40] <me101> <danko123456, come again
[08:41] <cvncpu> ok wait
[08:41] <cvncpu> it says
[08:41] <danko123456> did you upgrade your Ubuntu?
[08:41] <me101> replace Warty with ?
[08:41] <synd> Rydekull: lol
[08:41] <cvncpu> On the right hand size of the center panel, you will see two lines with universe at the end. Follow the first line and make sure the checkbox at the left is checked.
[08:41] <cvncpu> i don't understand
[08:41] <fsapo> p0m, i have dvdrip here just installed.. but it seems that justs convert o avi or svcd
[08:42] <p0m> fsapo: You just wanted to copy the DVD itself?
[08:42] <fsapo> p0m, yes
[08:42] <p0m> Err.
[08:42] <fsapo> p0m, but some dvd have more than 4.7gb
[08:42] <p0m> I'm not exactly sure how you'd go about doing that.
[08:42] <p0m> I'm thinking dd, but that probably wouldn't burn back.
[08:42] <fsapo> p0m, =/
[08:43] <me101> not yet danko123456, I'm still finding my way around this new OS
[08:43] <cvncpu> fsapo: you're using ext3 i assume?
[08:44] <danko123456> hoary
[08:44] <cvncpu> can anyone help me with my universal problem?
[08:44] <fsapo> cvncpu, ext3? reiserfs in my partitions
[08:44] <danko123456> scroll up, I guess you cant...
[08:45] <fsapo> cvncpu, but what have ext3 to do with dvd?
[08:45] <danko123456> shoulda saved it
[08:45] <finn> hi people... is there a way of making my laptop automatically enable it's wireless card (need to press Fn-F1 before the bootup process gets to setting up network at the moment)
[08:45] <cvncpu> fsapo: reiserFS should support files larger than 4.7GB
[08:45] <jblack> I've put up my ubuntu down under pics up. It'll probably be slow for awhile, but http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005
[08:45] <fsapo> cvncpu, but the problem is that i cant burn it to a 4.7gb dvd-r disc
[08:46] <fsapo> cvncpu, i need some kind of compression for the dvd itself
[08:46] <me101> danko123456, can you please repeat your instructons, or am I able to look up history on thi IRC ?
[08:46] <cvncpu> fsapo: try DivX or Xvid
[08:46] <me101> *this
[08:46] <danko123456> ill get it for ya, sure
[08:46] <me101> thanks
[08:47] <me101> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] / unstable main restricted
[08:47] <me101> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted
[08:47] <me101> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted
[08:47] <me101> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[08:47] <me101> ## repository.
[08:47] <me101> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[08:47] <me101> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[08:47] <me101> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[08:47] <me101> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[08:47] <me101> ## team.
[08:47] <cvncpu> fsapo: DivX is my personal favorite but XviD has better quality
[08:47] <me101> # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[08:47] <me101> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[08:47] <danko123456> danko123456: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  danko123456: then save it and close. danko123456: and then type in sudo apt-get update danko123456: and when that is done, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade danko123456: then youll update to the newer...
[08:47] <me101> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted
[08:47] <me101> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted
[08:47] <danko123456> dont paste that big
[08:47] <cvncpu> me101: what file is that?
[08:48] <danko123456> its too big
[08:48] <danko123456> there is soething called www.pastebin.org
[08:48] <me101> mistake, oops
[08:48] <cvncpu> lol
[08:48] <cvncpu> hey me101 what file is that?
[08:48] <danko123456> or www.pastebin.com
[08:48] <fsapo> cvncpu, i know it i use xvid but...
[08:48] <p0m> There's also #flood
[08:48] <fsapo> cvncpu, i want to make a dvd to play it on a dvd player
[08:48] <danko123456> you paste in, and give us the URL
[08:49] <cvncpu> fsapo: isn't there a way to get DivX and XviD to DVD format
[08:49] <bob2> fsapo: this isn't a "copying cds you rented" channel
[08:49] <fsapo> bob2, dunno =[
[08:49] <bob2> fsapo: try #mplayer or something
[08:49] <cvncpu> hellO!
[08:49] <cvncpu> me101: what file was that you pasted into this channel????
[08:50] <danko123456> bob2: haha
[08:50] <p0m> bob2: Good call.
[08:50] <me101> foreget it, guys, didnt mean to paste it
[08:50] <danko123456> I love that guy
[08:50] <danko123456> thats fine
[08:50] <cvncpu> me101: what file?!
[08:50] <me101> sources.list
[08:50] <danko123456> jsut told you what to do, if you wnt to in the future
[08:50] <cvncpu> ok
[08:50] <fsapo> bob2, thanx =P i m asking there
[08:50] <p0m> cvncpu: It was his sources
[08:50] <cvncpu> p0m: i need to enable universal
[08:51] <ek__> go ahead
[08:51] <cvncpu> and the "center panal" doesn't exist on my copy of synaptic
[08:51] <jblack> (second mention for those that missed the first) I've put up my ubuntu down under pics up. It'll probably be slow for awhile, but http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005
[08:51] <danko123456> Yeah, universal is good
[08:51] <p0m> cvncpu: Easist way is in Synaptic.
[08:51] <p0m> jblack: Cool :) I missed it because Treenaks told me a day too late it was on :(
[08:51] <cvncpu> p0m: synaptic doesn't have this option in the repos menu
[08:52] <cvncpu> where is that file?
[08:52] <cvncpu> i don't mind just uncommenting it
[08:52] <fsapo> =[ seems that everybody is sleeping on the other channels :P
[08:52] <p0m> It should be /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <p0m> Or something similar
[08:52] <me101> danko123456, your instructions difer from prior, dont I first need to replace some words
[08:53] <me101> you said, replace Warty with:
[08:53] <danko123456> hoary
[08:53] <me101> ok
[08:53] <me101> got you
[08:53] <danko123456> then save and all that.
[08:53] <danko123456> cool
[08:53] <danko123456> do that...
[08:53] <danko123456> it will upgrade you to hoary
[08:53] <danko123456> the current stable version
[08:53] <cvncpu> p0m: now i get : W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:53] <me101> and then
[08:53] <danko123456> hoary hedgehog
[08:53] <me101> something about ity
[08:54] <cvncpu> where can i find a valid universal repo URL?
[08:54] <p0m> cvncpu: Now you have to apt-get update
[08:54] <mpt> jblack: The guy whose name you don't remember on page 1 is Bjorn Tellenius (sp?), my roommate
[08:54] <cvncpu> p0m: ok thanks
[08:55] <p0m> Damn, I missed the Launchpad talk.
[08:55] <danko123456> me101: whats that last part?
[08:55] <k31th> Morning Guys :D
[08:55] <jblack> mpt: fixed. Thanks.
[08:56] <cvncpu> oik
[08:56] <bob2> cvncpu: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:56] <cvncpu> bob2: that needs to be updated
[08:57] <cvncpu> bbl
[08:57] <geneo93> anyone have xmms working with fm radio card
[08:57] <mpt> jblack: In http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0283 Mako is not the person on the left. Mako is the person on the right, and the person on the left is Breezy icon artist Andrew Fitzsimon
[08:58] <transgress> where is the modules blacklist?
[08:59] <bob2> transgress: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[08:59] <transgress> thanks
[08:59] <mako> wow, i look pretty good in that pic
[08:59] <jsgotangco> hey mako
[08:59] <mako> ;)
[08:59] <mako> jsgotangco: whats up
[08:59] <mpt> jblack: I don't know the names of the people in http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0288 but kiko will, I think they're his colleagues
[08:59] <jsgotangco> mako, tired
[08:59] <mako> jsgotangco: unfortunately, i am not
[08:59] <mpt> (or two of them are)
[08:59] <mako> jsgotangco: it's 3AM and i am not tired AT ALL
[08:59] <jsgotangco> haha
[08:59] <jblack> mpt: fixed.
[09:00] <mako> jetlag sucks :)
[09:00] <jsgotangco> hey look its andy
[09:00] <mako> i should nkow them
[09:00] <mako> i think i knew everyone there
[09:00] <mpt> jblack: in http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0279 the guy on the right is the founder of Kubuntu whose name starts with J
[09:00] <mpt> erm
[09:00] <JaneW> mako: *nod* *yawn*
[09:00] <mpt> Jonathan someone
[09:00] <geneo93> tritium:  any ideas how to get that to work
[09:01] <jsgotangco> jonathan riddell
[09:01] <mako> ok, in 279, it's jorge bernal on the right
[09:01] <bob2> JaneW: did you manage to get a visa to go *back*? ;)
[09:01] <jblack> mpt: if you find the name, I'll happily fix it. :)
[09:01] <mpt> jblack: The person on the right in http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0276 is nobody important
[09:01] <bob2> jblack: mpool, not mpoole
[09:01] <mako> bob2: you joke, but exit visas are quite common in much of the third world
[09:01] <mpt> dammit I always manage to close my eyes when people are taking photos
[09:02] <mako> bob2: i've had to get them
[09:02] <JaneW> bob2: hehe they were happy to see the last of us actually, and we barely noticed customs in SA.. they were so friendly :P
[09:02] <bob2> mako: haha
[09:02] <jsgotangco> JaneW, hey!
[09:02] <mako> ok.. 288 sorry
[09:02] <mako> 288 is the spainards
[09:02] <JaneW> hey jsg
[09:02] <jblack> Are you mpt?
[09:02] <jblack> Are you the somebody else? :)
[09:03] <mpt> yeah
[09:03] <bob2> jblack: 0258 is whiprush
[09:03] <jblack> mpt stands for?
[09:03] <mpt> Matthew Paul Thomas
[09:03] <bob2> jblack: 0253 is paul sladen
[09:03] <bob2> jblack: 0254 is mr business card
[09:04] <bob2> haha
[09:04] <mako> jblack: in 288 is it's javier carranza, juan jesus ojeda and jorge bernal
[09:04] <Rydekull> uh.. where was the meet?
[09:04] <JaneW> haha, it's not that hard
[09:04] <bob2> mpt: don't screw up, one of them signs your paychecks
[09:04] <mako> jblack: from right to left to left
[09:04] <mako> yeah isignyourpaychecks@canonical.com
[09:04] <Levander> How are you guys installing eclipse?
[09:04] <mako> or isignyourpaycheques@canonical.com
[09:04] <JaneW> displaying the fact that she does wield SOME power
[09:04] <mako> depending on your predisposition
[09:05] <bob2> JaneW: plus, she knows our names
[09:05] <JaneW> the latter
[09:05] <mako> bob2: JaneW  doesn't need to know your name
[09:05] <JaneW> so do I *sideshow*!
[09:05] <bob2> mako: well, true
[09:05] <mpt> ...cheques@ for the Lightwave employees, ...checks@ for the Canonical employees
[09:05] <bob2> dammit!
[09:05] <jblack> Claire! That's her name!
[09:05] <mako> bob2: you are inconsequential to ubuntu ;)
[09:05] <jsgotangco> wow i look good in that group pic
[09:05] <mpt> jblack: http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0257 is Andrew Mitchell from NZ
[09:06] <mako> bob2: i'm so lying
[09:06] <bob2> jblack: aka ajmitch
[09:06] <mpt> a packager
[09:06] <JaneW> anyone uploaded pics yet?
[09:06] <mpt> right
[09:06] <mako> bob2: YOU HAVE 100+ IRC WINDOWS
[09:06] <mako> THAT MAKES YOU VALUABLE
[09:06] <bob2> mako: 391
[09:06] <mako> HOLY FUCKING SHIT
[09:06] <mako> did i just violate the coc?
[09:06] <jsgotangco> whoa
[09:06] <jblack> that says something for uptime.
[09:06] <ajmitch_> bob2: I didn't do it!
[09:06] <bob2> mako: dude, you FUCKING WROTE the CoC!
[09:06] <SeamusLP> language alert:  My poor virgin eyes have been damaged! just kidding :P
[09:07] <Rydekull> jblack, bob2, mpt: where was the meet? :P
[09:07] <bob2> Rydekull: sydney
[09:07] <jblack> mako: Its his "free pr0n h33r!!" auto-message bot
[09:07] <jblack> Rydekull: sydney, au
[09:07] <mpt> jblack: http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0253 is Paul Sladen
[09:07] <jsgotangco> I got so lost in the CBD last sunday
[09:07] <JaneW> yes, I am not sure how many more times I can read 'CoC' without cracking
[09:07] <jblack> At least that's what they tell me. :)
[09:07] <mako> bob2: yeah, but i forgot to put in the "by definition mako cannot violate the coc" clause
[09:07] <bob2> hahaha
[09:07] <mako> JaneW: as far as i know, i am the only person that actually pronounces it coc
[09:08] <jsgotangco> haha
[09:08] <mako> and whenever i do, mark theatens to change the name
[09:08] <bob2> JaneW: mind->removeFromGutter(), kthxbye.
[09:08] <jblack> cute. ;)
[09:08] <JaneW> bob2: NEVER
[09:08] <jblack> What's in the coc anyways?
[09:08] <bob2> hahahaha
[09:08] <mako> jblack: bunch of bullshit
[09:08] <JaneW> mako: no I think it's very fitting actually
[09:08] <jsgotangco> can of crap
[09:08] <mako> jsgotangco: seriously
[09:08] <jblack> I never read it. Figured it was as useful as a license agreement.
[09:08] <JaneW> can of coke
[09:08] <bob2> jblack: mako made it up so people couldn't blame him for anything
[09:09] <jsgotangco> ive read it though but i haven't signed it yet
[09:09] <mako> bunch of hippy bullshit
[09:09] <jsgotangco> "I WILL SIGN IT SOON"
[09:09] <JaneW> we have to sign it!?
[09:09] <mako> all about "respect" and "responsibility"
[09:09] <mako> JaneW: YES
[09:09] <mako> JaneW: seriously though
[09:09] <JaneW> COC!
[09:09] <jsgotangco> YEAH
[09:09] <mako> JaneW: any member should
[09:09] <mako> JaneW: actually, any member *must*
[09:09] <JaneW> mako: I do agree
[09:09] <mako> JaneW: not enough
[09:09] <JaneW> makes sense
[09:09] <jsgotangco> i prefer to fax it though
[09:10] <mako> jsgotangco: that's fine, my fax number is all over the web
[09:10] <jblack> Mako: I bet I could list a couple people at the company that respect your coc. ;)
[09:10] <jsgotangco> at least you can have a hard copy of the COC
[09:10] <bob2> jsgotangco: 1-900-HOT-MAKO
[09:10] <jsgotangco> no
[09:10] <JaneW> 1-900-COC-MAKO
[09:10] <jsgotangco> 1-900-HOT-MAKO-COC
[09:10] <mako> jsgotangco: too many digets
[09:10] <crimsun> mako: could be an extension.
[09:11] <mako> jblack: dude, pretty soon, everyone in the company that uploads to ubuntu will respect my coc
[09:11] <mako> jblack: that's on my todo list
[09:11] <crimsun> wait, I think that reveals too much about my knowledge of 900 #s
[09:11] <jblack> mako: Just to be clear, you're the coc-master?
[09:11] <mako> jblack: one could say that
[09:11] <jsgotangco> jeezz
[09:11] <mako> dude, i'm about to ban you all
[09:11] <jsgotangco> now i know why we had a BOF to clean this CHANNEL
[09:11] <mako> including myself
[09:11] <bob2> ahahaha
[09:12] <mako> for bob2 op me
[09:12] <jblack> jsgotangco: What did I say?
[09:12] <JaneW> every commnity memeber will have to accept mako's coc before they'll be allowed to join....
[09:12] <mako> bob2: ban me
[09:12] <mako> or at least kick me
[09:12] <mako> and janew
[09:12] <jsgotangco> haha
[09:12] <jblack> JaneW: do company members need to sign the coc?
[09:12] <mako> i learned my lesson
[09:12] <mako> jblack: only company members that upload
[09:12] <bob2> JaneW: "NEVER"
[09:12] <jblack> Because I was just thinking.. the company is about 99% male...
[09:13] <Burgundavia> jblack, martin pitt is pitti not mpt
[09:13] <jblack> burgundavia: Hmm? Which photo?
[09:13] <Burgundavia> 21
[09:13] <jsgotangco> mpt is matthew thomas from NZ
[09:13] <Burgundavia> he is the one who wrote the "rant"
[09:13] <jblack> burgandavia: It should be a 4 digit number.
[09:14] <jblack> 0253 for example.
[09:14] <Burgundavia> 0305
[09:14] <mako> i at least have the excuse that i am trying to overcome jetlag by ingesting large quantites of whiskey
[09:14] <mako> due to timezones and all, i can't imagine that janew has the same excuse at the moment
[09:14] <Burgundavia> mako, do not drink and irc
[09:14] <ajmitch_> mpt: launchpad? :)
[09:14] <mpt> yeah
[09:15] <mpt> First: Get a working Internet connection
[09:15] <mpt> Second: Get famous from Launchpad
[09:15] <bob2> Third: profit!
[09:15] <Burgundavia> we have succesfully kicked all the normal users off the channel
[09:16] <geneo93> oh you think
[09:16] <bob2> see
[09:16] <bob2> and now we've solved all #ubuntu's problems in one fell sweep
[09:16] <JaneW> mako: what time dod you get back home?
[09:16] <bob2> er, swoop.
[09:16] <Burgundavia> indeed
[09:16] <jblack> I think conference would have been more effective if we had started the day with jello shots.
[09:16] <jsgotangco> yeah mentos can be hard on the face
[09:17] <bob2> jblack: amen
[09:17] <bob2> mako: is it too late to do a JellyShotSpec?
[09:17] <jblack> Oh man. I don't want to see another mento if its the last thing I do.
[09:17] <bob2> mentos can be harder on your laptop
[09:17] <bob2> if your name is thom
[09:17] <mako> JaneW: about 30 hours ago
[09:17] <jsgotangco> jblack, i even had some while on the plane doh
[09:17] <nullaresnata> Hello, how do I tell the driver to use in xorg.conf file for my graphical card?
[09:18] <mako> JaneW: i basically used the whiskey recovery method last night as well
[09:18] <bob2> nullaresnata: it should be detected automatically
[09:18] <mako> JaneW: ended up sleeping like 15 hours straight :)
[09:18] <xukun> I dont see the open programms anymore, I have to use the ctrl + tab to switch between programms
[09:18] <jblack> nullaresnata: the Driver line.
[09:18] <nullaresnata> It's for a second one.
[09:18] <JaneW> mako: insane, but probably effective
[09:18] <bob2> nullaresnata: well, what card do you have?
[09:18] <jblack> bob2: what window am I?
[09:18] <mako> well i like drinking whiskey quite a bit so this is a very convenient excuse
[09:18] <JaneW> hehe
[09:18] <nullaresnata> This one:
[09:19] <mako> today, i change windo manager for the first time in YEARS
[09:19] <mako> i changed from ion2 to....
[09:19] <mako> (get ready)
[09:19] <mako> ion3
[09:19] <nullaresnata>  S3 Inc. 86c864 [Vision 864 DRAM]  vers 1
[09:19] <bob2> jblack: 111
[09:19] <jsgotangco> that sucks
[09:19] <mako> JaneW: i drank red wine on the plane too :)
[09:19] <mako> lots
[09:19] <jblack> I rank 111 in your life? Oh man!
[09:19] <JaneW> ;)
[09:20] <mako> drinking on the plane can be effective, but ends up making me SO dehydrated
[09:20] <jsgotangco> how many movies does a trans atlantic flight show on the plane
[09:20] <bob2> nullaresnata: s3, I think
[09:20] <nullaresnata> Thanks!
[09:20] <nullaresnata> gonna try that.
[09:20] <mako> the two most dehydrating things i do regularly are drinking and flying
[09:20] <bob2> jsgotangco: .au -> .uk gives you time for 13
[09:20] <JaneW> jsg: about 5
[09:20] <mako> jsgotangco: trans *atlantic*?
[09:20] <mako> JaneW: no way
[09:21] <jsgotangco> 13 movies jeeezzz
[09:21] <darmou> Is there a hardware compibility database for ubuntu, I want to get a duel layer dvd burner
[09:21] <mako> JaneW: jfk -> lhr is like 3-4 max
[09:21] <mako> jfk -> capetown is a whole different story
[09:21] <jblack> mako: Hey, where'd you get that battery?
[09:21] <mako> jblack: it's called a powerpad
[09:21] <JaneW> mako: we had 'Ray', 'In Good COmpany', 'Coach Carter', 'Incredibles', Meet the Fockers'
[09:21] <mako> search on froogle
[09:21] <bob2> darmou: they generally just work
[09:21] <mako> JaneW: that's trans AU and trans indian, not trans atlantic :)
[09:22] <jsgotangco> Fockers is good
[09:22] <nullaresnata> It's vesa.
[09:22] <mako> i saw every one of those
[09:22] <nullaresnata> Found here, on someone's site.
[09:22] <mako> and a few others
[09:22] <JaneW> mako: oh DUH, yeah INDIAN
[09:22] <jblack> What do you have? a 120? 160?
[09:22] <mako> i did syd -> lax -> jfk
[09:22] <mako> it was quite long
[09:22] <ajmitch_> we just had one movie for transtasman
[09:22] <mako> jblack: 120b
[09:22] <mako> depends on your laptop
[09:23] <mako> my laptop pull between 10-20 depending on how hard i drive it
[09:23] <mako> so i get between 6-12
[09:23] <mako> usually around 10 hours
[09:23] <JaneW> ok, I got heaos of stuff to do, including figure out how to get GAIM to connect to jabber in Ubuntu...
[09:23] <JaneW> heaos - heaps
[09:24] <jsgotangco> doh just use XP why bother
[09:24] <jblack> oh darn. Looks like they don't make them for vaios.
[09:24] <jsgotangco> *joke*
[09:24] <JaneW> mako: cool, I seem to get 1-2 - sucky!
[09:24] <mako> JaneW: buy a powerpad.. they rock
[09:24] <mako> JaneW: i can get them for like $220 US
[09:24] <mako> JaneW: if you want one, i can bring it to the next conference
[09:24] <JaneW> btw was anyone working already yesterday?
[09:25] <bob2> JaneW: yes
[09:25] <jblack> janew: Yeah. :(
[09:25] <JaneW> mako: I'll think about it, this T42p is pretty cool, but it;s heavy and the battery drains fast...
[09:25] <bob2> even after working saturday and anzac day
[09:26] <mako> JaneW: i worked yeterday.. or at least tried
[09:26] <JaneW> bob2: I worked the previous Sat night and the Sunday b4 the conference, and the wednesday was a public holiday in SA
[09:26] <bob2> JaneW: hah
[09:26] <bob2> JaneW: make sure you get them back
[09:26] <bob2> JaneW: so you can drink red wine all day
[09:26] <JaneW> mako: I was non functional yesterday, wanted to at least go to the gym, but got all sweaty just walking to the couch!
[09:26] <jsgotangco> i like the weather at sydney
[09:27] <JaneW> bob2: well it was a holiday here yesterday, so I took it ;)
[09:27] <jblack> mako: btw, May 19 is a holiday.
[09:27] <jsgotangco> jblack, the photos are great thanks, i took them all
[09:28] <jblack> jsgotangco: Glad to hear it. Next time I'll try to take more.
[09:28] <JaneW> any ideas as to why I get 401: unauthorised, if I try to log on to jabber.org/gaim?
[09:28] <jblack> janew: raw guess here, but sounds like user not found to me?
[09:28] <fsapo> bob2, i managed how to install transcode.. i needed to comment everything but the debian unstable rep, the install some dependencies manually... and then transcode worked :P
[09:29] <bob2> oh god
[09:29] <xukun> ist normal to switch between open programms only with ctrl + TAB in ubuntu?
[09:29] <bob2> fsapo: you're using Debian packages as well?
[09:29] <JaneW> jblack: ok... I'll fiddle some more
[09:29] <bob2> xukun: alt-tab is the default key binding
[09:29] <fsapo> bob2, yes i do
[09:29] <jblack> janew: maybe you changed your password and forgot.
[09:29] <mako> jblack: which holiday?
[09:29] <jblack> mako: Star Wars opens.
[09:29] <bob2> fsapo: that's why you're having so many problems
[09:29] <fsapo> bob2, is there a transcode package in the ubuntu reps?
[09:29] <mako> jblack: OMG YES
[09:29] <jblack> mako: I've already defined it as a holiday. All day catching up on the old ones to see it in the theater.
[09:30] <jblack> The company can take away my birthday, but star wars.... heh. I don't think so. :)
[09:30] <mako> jblack: dude, you should come to nyc
[09:30] <geneo93> help with xmms-fm plz
[09:30] <mako> jblack: i'll try to get jbailey down her for it
[09:30] <JaneW> jblack: no I am tryig to connect from ubuntu for the first time, so it's all different
[09:30] <mako> jblack: we can make an event of it
[09:30] <jblack> I could probably pull that off.
[09:31] <mako> jblack: sure, i have space to put you up. in manhattan even
[09:31] <jblack> Manhattan?
[09:31] <xukun> bob2, sorry I mean that yes alt+tab, but I need to see the open programms so I can swith between the with the mice, now I dont see anything till I use the alt+tab key
[09:31] <mako> jblack: yeah dude
[09:31] <bob2> xukun: I don't know what you mean
[09:31] <mako> jblack: quite uptown, but still manhattan
[09:31] <bob2> geneo93: you need to ask a question
[09:31] <jsgotangco> jblack, you watch boxing?
[09:31] <jblack> Since you've got room, count me in.
[09:31] <xukun> hmm
[09:31] <mako> jblack: think about it.. we have time to think :)
[09:31] <mako> rad
[09:32] <mako> alright.. slee
[09:32] <mako> sleep even
[09:32] <geneo93> bob2:  i want to use fm radio card in xmms how do you get fmr file
[09:32] <mako>  i think i am sufficiently intoxicated
[09:32] <mako> ;)
[09:32] <mako> who needs melatonin
[09:32] <jblack> jsgotangco: Yup. I'm rather new to it (a friend of mine decided I needed a new hobby), but I like it.
[09:32] <bob2> geneo93: try asking on the user list
[09:32] <jblack> mako: My excuse is "I'm avoiding skin cancer"
[09:32] <geneo93> ??
[09:32] <[uhelp] > ??[x] : Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] 
[09:32] <bob2> mako: hah, kinnison tried to buy some in the uk, only to be told it was a "controlled substance"
[09:33] <jsgotangco> jblack, because i saw pacquiao in one of your galleries hehehehe...i watched him live like 10 times already when he wasn't that big yet
[09:33] <bob2> geneo93: http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[09:33] <jblack> jsgotangco: If you can make it to NE-Pa, I have parties from time to time. The next time a good fight comes on ppv, I'll invite you
[09:33] <jsgotangco> great
[09:34] <jblack> Here in the downtown Wilkes-Barre, PA canonical office. ;)
[09:34] <jblack> That's the one with the bar, the pool table and the bigscreen. :)
[09:35] <jblack> I have a couple guest rooms too, if you care to stay over.
[09:35] <jsgotangco> ill look forward to that
[09:35] <geneo93> bob2:  no luck
[09:35] <JaneW> jblack: any specific server jabber I should connect to?
[09:35] <bob2> geneo93: what do you mean, "no luck"?
[09:35] <jblack> janew: The one you created the account on. Possibly jabber.com or jabber.org
[09:36] <geneo93> i'm looking for a specific thing
[09:36] <bob2> geneo93: you need to ask your question on there and hope someone answers it
[09:36] <bob2> it seems no one here knows what you're talking about
[09:39] <geneo93> yeah its not like gnomeradio is enough
[09:39] <mark> anyone here use gmail?
[09:40] <JaneW> jblack: hmmm, think it was org... thanks
[09:40] <mark> i send emails from my gmail account to my gmail account.....
[09:40] <bob2> you can't send to yourself
[09:40] <mark> and both thunderbird and evolution never pick it up
[09:40] <mark> why is that?
[09:40] <mark> why cant you i mean
[09:40] <jsgotangco> its conversation based
[09:40] <bob2> don't know
[09:40] <bob2> perhaps to stop you trivially using it as a disk
[09:40] <mark> well, if i go to gmail and login, the email is there though
[09:41] <mark> i just cant get it from the client
[09:41] <jblack> janew: So you're good to go now?
[09:41] <mark> i dont understand this
[09:41] <jsgotangco> if you send via gmail's web interface, the client retrieves it and puts it on inbox
[09:41] <JaneW> jblack: no now I get other errors *grrr*
[09:41] <concept10> anyone here have success with netgear wg311 wireless pci? any links so i can refer to TFM?
[09:42] <goose> um can anyone help me with an nvidia driver problem?
[09:43] <jblack> janew: Ahh. You'll find that under the definition of "progress". What's happening now?
[09:43] <bob2> goose: way better to just ask
[09:43] <goose> ok so I changed the driver from the default "nv" to "nvidia", I followed some steps to get it installed it works fine and all
[09:44] <goose> but, before when I had the "nv" as my driver I could get 1280x1024@85Hz
[09:44] <goose> now I can only get 1260x1024@60Hz
[09:44] <goose> if it is at 85Hz the desktop is bigger than the view screen and you can kinda scroll around it
[09:45] <mark> you're right
[09:45] <goose> I looked at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the monitor should allow the frequency to be that high
[09:45] <mark> if i send from the web to client it works
[09:45] <mark> if i send from client to client, it doesnt work
[09:46] <mark> is this the way my smtp is setup perhaps for gmail sending?
[09:47] <jblack> oh man, how did I ever get up to 2k emails a day
[09:47] <JaneW> jblack: now it says 'couldn't connect to host'
[09:48] <jblack> janew: I'm not sure what's wrong. I'm not much of a jabber user either, to be honest
[09:48] <drcoded> Hi all
[09:48] <jsgotangco> wait ill register to jabber and see what i get
[09:48] <drcoded> any one install dri.sf.org?
[09:48] <drcoded> I try to install it in ubuntu 5.04 and got lots of error at install
[09:49] <jsgotangco> drcoded, probably bad media?
[09:49] <drcoded> any one setup it
[09:50] <drcoded> I did gave in sourecs.list the location of there web site
[09:50] <drcoded> net
[09:50] <drcoded> I have old g200 and I want it to support 3d
[09:50] <drcoded> with dri
[09:50] <drcoded> the dri dosnt come with ubuntu ?
[09:52] <threat> G'Day
[09:52] <drcoded> jsgotangco :did U install it?
[09:52] <drcoded> it need XFree86
[09:52] <bob2> lots of dri stuff comes with ubuntu
[09:52] <drcoded> ubuntu come with xorg
[09:52] <bob2> hoary does, yes
[09:53] <drcoded> but I still can't see driect: yes
[09:53] <drcoded> in glxinfo it give me sgi direct:no
[09:53] <bob2> the mga dri module comes with ubuntu
[09:53] <bob2> and x.org
[09:53] <bob2> etc
[09:53] <drcoded> realy
[09:53] <luke> hey does anyone know where to find some howtos on making your own mouse cursors in linux?
[09:53] <fsapo> ?? dri
[09:53] <[uhelp] > dri[x] : No defenition found for word.
[09:54] <threat> yes NVIDIA GLX under Ubuntu, thats pretty much trivial isn't it?
[09:54] <drcoded> so how come it still not give me direct:yes
[09:54] <bob2> threat: yes
[09:54] <bob2> threat: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:54] <Myrtti> hum
[09:54] <drcoded> direct reading: no
[09:54] <drcoded> I did by wiki
[09:54] <threat> bob2, w00t
[09:54] <drcoded> 1 by 1
[09:54] <threat> thanx, "bob"
[09:55] <fsapo> drcoded, what lsmod | grep nvidia gives you?
[09:55] <fsapo> is nvidia the module name?
[09:56] <fsapo> here is fglrx
[09:56] <bob2> fsapo: er, drcoded has a matrox card
[09:56] <fsapo> O.o
[09:56] <fsapo> thought it was a nvidia haha
[09:56] <luke> does anyone know where to find some howtos on making your own mouse cursors in linux?
[09:56] <Ubuntico> #ubuntu #ubuntu-es #linuxpreview #debian-es #debian-do #php-es
[09:56] <fsapo> luke, www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[09:56] <drcoded> I dont have nvidia
[09:57] <drcoded> I have matrox g200
[09:57] <bob2> fsapo: language, please
[09:57] <bob2> you will not be warned again
[09:57] <drcoded> also in nvidia it didnt work
[09:57] <bob2> drcoded: is X loading the DRI module?
[09:57] <drcoded> ys
[09:57] <drcoded> yes
[09:57] <fsapo> bob2, sorry =[
[09:57] <drcoded> load "DRI"
[09:57] <drcoded> and Loca
[09:57] <drcoded>  load "glx"
[09:57] <Ubuntico> $channel
[09:58] <luke> belive me I have fsapo
[09:58] <bob2> drcoded: please file a bug on xserver-xorg, including your Xorg.conf, your X.log (from /var/log/), the output of 'dmesg', 'lspci -n', 'lspci' and 'lsmod'.
[09:58] <drcoded> i need glcore?
[09:58] <drcoded> also to load?
[09:59] <fsapo> luke, http://www.google.com.br/search?num=20&hl=pt-BR&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=howto+gnome+mouse+cursors&btnG=Pesquisar&meta=lr%3Dlang_en%7Clang_pt
[09:59] <fsapo> luke, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Animated_Mouse_Cursor
[10:00] <luke> fsapo thankyou
[10:00] <drcoded> I need also to load modprobe mga ?
[10:00] <drcoded> or dri?
[10:01] <bob2> drcoded: please file a bug
[10:01] <Alien_II> wow
[10:01] <threat> bob2, would wouldnt happen to know if there are any Ubuntu wiki's regarding regular users being able to cancel their own print jobs?
[10:01] <Alien_II> how do u file a bug ?
[10:01] <bob2> threat: no, sorry
[10:01] <Alien_II> cool.. u gonna start adding bugs too ?
[10:01] <bob2> Alien_II: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, for now
[10:01] <Alien_II> isn't bugzilla for bug reports?
[10:02] <Alien_II> i thought u wanted to implement more bugs :/
[10:02] <Alien_II> *hides*
[10:02] <bob2> er, ok then
[10:03] <HelenClark> Is Kaffeine Player Legal?
[10:04] <bob2> "legal"?
[10:05] <HelenClark> yes, in the US
[10:05] <HelenClark> It plays EVERY video format
[10:05] <bob2> as much as anything using mp3 decoders are, I suppose
[10:05] <HelenClark> and with libdvd it is one of the best DVD players I have ever used
[10:05] <HelenClark> I am new to FOSS
[10:06] <bob2> then it probably violates numerous patents
[10:06] <bob2> and copyrights, if it uses windows dlls
[10:07] <Alien_II> hrrrmm
[10:07] <Alien_II> re Kaffeine
[10:08] <Alien_II> sounds like something Lindows should sponsor
[10:08] <RTN> I would say that ubuntuguide is a fabulous piece of artwork.
[10:08] <Alien_II> for all of linux
[10:08] <Alien_II> so that we stop flaming that michael idiot
[10:08] <Alien_II> :P
[10:08] <RTN> but... too much information....
[10:08] <Alien_II> RTN: but wait...
[10:08] <fsapo> :oO
[10:09] <RTN> i wonder how recent windows converts handle that...? :)
[10:09] <Alien_II> u are providing a link that provides a link that provides a link.. to ILLEGAL SOFTWARE!!!
[10:09] <Alien_II> oh nose!!:)
[10:09] <RTN> shaisse, as they say in England :P
[10:09] <RTN> or was it Paris?
[10:09] <Alien_II> haha
[10:10] <RTN> and i was actually planning a question about w32codecs :P
[10:10] <Alien_II> u know i really like (K)ubuntu
[10:10] <Kisain> i was thinkning of satrting an ubuntu blog
[10:10] <Alien_II> i used to use mandrake and debian
[10:10] <Alien_II> mandrake's config tools are cool
[10:10] <Alien_II> however...
[10:10] <RTN> i used another debian based non-knoppix before...
[10:10] <Alien_II> in (k)ubuntu i did not need config tools
[10:10] <Alien_II> cuz everything just worked
[10:10] <Alien_II> lol
[10:10] <Airo> kynaptic sucked arse
[10:10] <Alien_II> ye
[10:10] <RTN> all of my hardware is working i believe...
[10:10] <Alien_II> kynaptic _DOES_ suck "arse" as u put it
[10:11] <Alien_II> synaptic is much better
[10:11] <Alien_II> however
[10:11] <RTN> i have not tried infrared and cardreader, but i don't use them anyway.
[10:11] <Airo> :)
[10:11] <Alien_II> apt-get is even better:P
[10:11] <RTN> apt-get is the king.
[10:11] <Alien_II> wha
[10:11] <Airo> yeah, was just thinking of the normal users
[10:11] <Alien_II> i thought it was the queen
[10:11] <RTN> i liked the kpackage ...
[10:11] <Alien_II> thats why people liked it
[10:11] <Airo> win->lin switchers etc
[10:11] <RTN> it shows the description of the package ...
[10:11] <bob2> Airo: try synaptic
[10:11] <bob2> please file bugs if you have suggestions
[10:11] <fsapo> news about ubuntu :) Ubuntu Linux backer tackles collaboration: http://www.builderau.com.au/program/work/0,39024650,39186843,00.htm
[10:11] <Airo> bob2, have it already
[10:11] <Airo> And I like using cmdline myself
[10:12] <Alien_II> yep
[10:12] <Alien_II> i like guis and stuff
[10:12] <Alien_II> but when it comes to installing in linux
[10:12] <Alien_II> i tend to use console
[10:12] <bob2> that's the same article as was on zdnet
[10:12] <Alien_II> konsole even
[10:12] <Alien_II> lol
[10:12] <Alien_II> even in mandrake i did that
[10:12] <RTN> actually i have a problem. i would like to install some stuff which is not in ubuntu reprositories, and.... ftp is closed...
[10:12] <RTN> how should i proceed?
[10:12] <Alien_II> urpmi bla bla
[10:12] <Alien_II> etc
[10:12] <Alien_II> :P
[10:12] <RTN> go to nearest wifi hotspot? :)
[10:12] <Airo> Well.. I'm an ex gentoo/crux/sourcemage user :)
[10:12] <Airo> so console is the thing ;)
[10:12] <fsapo> bob2, just saw it in the newsforge mainpage
[10:13] <RTN> console kicks ass. kicked mine 15 minutes ago. will do again in half an hour... :)
[10:13] <bob2> RTN: for instance?
[10:13] <RTN> tuxracer
[10:13] <RTN> tuxcart
[10:13] <bob2> both are in ubuntu
[10:13] <RTN> son wants them.
[10:13] <RTN> huh?
[10:13] <ritalin> Can anyone help me out with some hardware buying?
[10:13] <Alien_II> i had a similar problem where stuff didnt show in rep
[10:13] <bob2> ritalin: best to just ask your question
[10:14] <Alien_II> so i just downloaded them from that ubuntu packages thing
[10:14] <Alien_II> and dpkg -i 'd them
[10:14] <bob2> RTN: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:14] <ritalin> I need to know what kind if harddrive this mobo can use
[10:14] <ritalin> http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=0-N82E16856119002
[10:14] <ritalin> it says 2x ATA 133
[10:14] <HelenClark> There needs to be a law that prevents school districts from Using Windows
[10:14] <ritalin> not sure what that means
[10:14] <HelenClark> we are firing teachers
[10:14] <HelenClark> while spending 100K"s on MS Licenses
[10:14] <fsapo> HelenClark, haha
[10:14] <HelenClark> its absurd
[10:15] <fsapo> HelenClark, bill gates is a little upset with the brazillian government :)
[10:15] <HelenClark> good for them
[10:15] <fsapo> HelenClark, here they are using linux in a lot os public stuff, like libraries, schools, etc
[10:15] <Kisain> shoulden't the world be upset with bill gates?
[10:15] <HelenClark> we are begining to do that
[10:15] <HelenClark> but they should pass legislation
[10:15] <Kisain> for forcing them to use crappy software?
[10:16] <Kisain> with major securety flaws?
[10:16] <fsapo> HelenClark, in my city's central library the computers uses linux with kde and openoffice
[10:16] <HelenClark> that is VERY smart
[10:16] <transgress> crap
[10:16] <RTN> ouch, bob2, thank you very much for answering my SUQ
[10:17] <transgress> i keep messing stuff up on this new install heh
[10:17] <transgress> brb
[10:17] <RTN> stupid user question....
[10:17] <goo> hello :)
[10:17] <transgress> hey does anyone know why turning dma on would lock up my dvd drive?
[10:17] <HelenClark> i still can't get over how easy Ubuntu is to configure
[10:17] <Burgundavia> transgress, you have an older drive that does that
[10:18] <goo> In phpinfo() i recently discovered that the mysql client api was version 3.23.56 - how do I get the 4.1-series?
[10:18] <transgress> Burgundavia: umm... nope... brand new hardware
[10:18] <Burgundavia> hmm, then it would be a bug I suspect
[10:18] <ivoks> ugh.... hi
[10:19] <ivoks> imagine this problem
[10:19] <ivoks> I have Desktop dir
[10:19] <ivoks> but my gnome desktop is empty
[10:19] <ivoks> it didn't even set right wallpaper
[10:20] <ivoks> hm... not even right button on desktop works
[10:20] <hotpie> hello
[10:20] <ivoks> and that's after last update
[10:20] <ivoks> something is broken
[10:21] <hotpie> can someone help me stop x on ubuntu
[10:21] <hotpie> its for installing nvidia driver
[10:21] <Kisain> i gots a new flat panel monitor yay ^_^
[10:21] <ivoks> hotpie /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:21] <bob2> ivoks: make a new user.  does that user experience that problem?
[10:21] <bob2> hotpie: no, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:21] <bob2> no need to stop X
[10:21] <Kisain> ubuntu looks awsome on a 47 in monitor
[10:21] <Kisain> ^_^
[10:22] <ivoks> bob2 sec... reinstalin some gnome-desktop data...
[10:22] <k31th> 47 inch "!
[10:23] <Kisain> yup
[10:23] <hotpie> bob2, how do i do it then?
[10:23] <k31th> im going to ubuntu this laptop
[10:23] <hotpie> the installer asks me to stop x
[10:23] <hotpie> and generates an error
[10:24] <ivoks> bob2 nope, new user doesn't have that problems... wait till i try my user again
[10:24] <bob2> hotpie: read that page
[10:24] <hotpie> which page?
[10:24] <Kisain> the next laptop i buy will have ubuntu if it's not one of those stupid wincrap only ones :/
[10:25] <hotpie> Kisain, make sure its NOT one of those before u buy it ;)
[10:25] <Kisain> how to tell?
[10:25] <jsgotangco> Kisain, that would be great
[10:25] <hotpie> do some research
[10:25] <hotpie> ive been able to put linux on any ibm or dell
[10:25] <hotpie> both nice brands
[10:26] <hotpie> bob2, read which page?
[10:26] <|Fjellheim|> Hey i am wondering if it is possible to use Ubuntu on ip.no.com??
[10:27] <simca> Hi, I've got a problem with an ISDN-card on an fresh Kubuntu (Hoary) installation.
[10:27] <|Fjellheim|> ip-no.com
[10:27] <simca> I installed it according to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IsdnHowtoHoary
[10:27] <simca> pon / poff works just fine
[10:27] <bob2> hotpie: ...
[10:27] <bob2> 18:21:48 @         bob2 | hotpie: no, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:28] <simca> But the person who is supposed to work with that machine would be very happy about a gui
[10:28] <simca> Something like kppp...
[10:28] <ivoks> bob2 it was nautilus problem... he took 100% CPU :) freezed :)
[10:28] <Kisain> i should start a company to combat mirotard make linux only machenes ^_^
[10:28] <simca> But i just don't get kppp to work. Has anyone already done this?
[10:29] <drcoded> hi all
[10:29] <simca> Oh, I forgot: The problem seems to be the following:
[10:29] <drcoded> well I need to install xlibmesa
[10:29] <drcoded> and xserver-xfree86-dri ?
[10:29] <simca> pon creates a device /dev/capi/0, kppp doesn't
[10:30] <drcoded> or it is in ubuntu by default
[10:30] <|Fjellheim|> Ok, well let me ask this way, is there a server page for ubuntu??
[10:30] <bob2> |Fjellheim|: you need to be more specific
[10:30] <drcoded> ubunutu use xfree86?
[10:30] <bob2> |Fjellheim|: yes, of course you can have a no-ip.com hostname pointing at an ubuntu machine
[10:30] <bob2> drcoded: no, hoary uses x.org
[10:30] <drcoded> k
[10:31] <drcoded> so the DRI for xfree86 will not work
[10:31] <|Fjellheim|> k thx
[10:32] <hotpie> bob2 thank u
[10:32] <hotpie> im very new to linux, do i need to restart for drivers to take effect?
[10:33] <bob2> yes
[10:33] <bob2> just reboot
[10:33] <hotpie> k brb
[10:35] <fsapo> anyone here tried the new azureus?
[10:37] <RTN> i have sources.list file as it came with default hoary installation, can't find tuxracer there...
[10:37] <bob2> RTN: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:37] <bob2> please read that
[10:37] <bob2> tuxracer is in "universe"
[10:38] <RTN> all right... thank you again...
[10:39] <fsapo> bob2, where are you in the globe? usa?
[10:40] <bob2> Australia.
[10:40] <fsapo> bob2, nice :) what time it is there?
[10:41] <bob2> 1839
[10:41] <fsapo> O.o
[10:42] <fsapo> 5:41am here.. and i m waiting my coffee ;)
[10:42] <drcoded> the x.org come with dri built in>\
[10:43] <fsapo> drcoded, i think that the dri is installed automaticaly with the xorg
[10:43] <fsapo> drcoded, btw is just a guessing :)
[10:45] <airbus> im having some tough trouble if anyone is interested in helping :-)
[10:46] <bob2> you need to ask a question first
[10:46] <airbus> im trying to import my bookmarks on firefox from another harddrive
[10:46] <airbus> drive is mounted just fine
[10:46] <simca> *sigh* I really love Linux, but installation of ISDN-cards is a real pain in the ass *sigh again*
[10:46] <airbus> but when i browse for file, i dont have access to read the drive
[10:46] <airbus> and its not terminal so i cant rly sudo it..
[10:47] <fsapo> airbus, thats easy
[10:47] <fsapo> airbus, its a ntfs partition?
[10:47] <airbus> yes
[10:47] <fsapo> airbus, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[10:48] <fsapo> airbus, just make this page your start page haha
[10:48] <Unfrgiven> hey all. during the installation of ubuntu, i chose to "configure network later". how do i bring up the network configuration utility again?
[10:48] <fsapo> airbus, its very very useufull
[10:49] <snader> does anyone here know a curses, or at least text-based, interactive bittorrent client?
[10:49] <fsapo> Unfrgiven, just click.. Applications -> System Tools -> Network Tools
[10:49] <airbus> lol thanks fsapo
[10:49] <Unfrgiven> fsapo: ta.
[10:50] <airbus> so basically umask=0222 is what allows read
[10:50] <airbus> right?
[10:50] <Unfrgiven> fsapo: thats australian for thanks :)
[10:50] <fsapo> Unfrgiven, got it :)
[10:50] <bob2> airbus: umask=002
[10:50] <fsapo> Unfrgiven, here ta means "ok"
[10:51] <GBX> hi! got a problem with ubuntu live cd. it hangs when starting hotplug subsystem. does anyone know what to do?
[10:51] <airbus> bob2, what does umask=002 do?
[10:51] <petemc> fsapo: wheres here? anywhere ive been it means thanks
[10:51] <fsapo> petemc, haha sorry.. here = brazil
[10:52] <petemc> ah :)
[10:52] <fsapo> petemc, where r u from?
[10:52] <petemc> ireland
[10:53] <fsapo> petemc, O.o
[10:53] <fsapo> petemc, hehe we have people from all around the globe here
[10:53] <petemc> indeed
[10:53] <hussam> what was the command  could run from a terminal to check how much disk space is in use?
[10:53] <petemc> df -h
[10:53] <hussam> thank you :)
[10:54] <RTN> huh. what about kdebluetooth? i believe it is not in ubuntu reprositories?
[10:54] <bob2> airbus: "make it readable by everyone"
[10:56] <fsapo> damn i need to work but i dont really want to work :(
[10:56] <goo> fsapo: tell me about it.
[10:56] <fsapo> goo, tell you about what?
[10:57] <transgress> hehe sometimes things you type aren't read the way you would say them
[10:57] <goo> fsapo: err, I am not a native english speaker, and have watched too many bad american movies.. sorry :)
[10:58] <transgress> goo: it looked fine to me... heh
[10:59] <fsapo> goo, lol.. i m not english native.. and as i m not acustomed with english its difficult to write everything correct.. just hope you understand what i m saying haha
[11:00] <goo> fsapo: sure :)
[11:00] <goo> Mellar: is it raining in Bergen today? :)
[11:02] <fsapo> working at home is a dificult thing =/ i m too lazy for it...
[11:03] <goo> fsapo: yeah, mee too.. home office is teh suck. And I want to pick up my new car :/
[11:03] <airbus> ok
[11:03] <airbus> i switched to umask=002
[11:04] <airbus> i tried "sudo mount -a" to remount everything
[11:04] <airbus> that didnt work, but a restart did
[11:04] <fsapo> goo, what do you do?
[11:04] <goo> fsapo: PHP programming
[11:04] <jiyuu0> new version of ubuntu add-on cd is out: http://ubuntuguide.org/add-on-cd
[11:05] <goo> fsapo: we make a Learning Management System
[11:06] <fsapo> goo, i work with php too.. but as a freelancer
[11:07] <fsapo> goo, and today i have to make the part that i hate.. user interface... the bd and the code are ok, now i need to block all possible "stupid actions" that the users could make =/
[11:07] <fsapo> bd = db
[11:08] <fsapo> ?? php
[11:08] <[uhelp] > php[x] : No defenition found for word.
[11:08] <goo> fsapo: yeah, that's my least favourite bit as well.. :(  I made a wifi manager in python/pygtk/glade in the weekend - really fun to get away from the web programming for a while.
[11:08] <fsapo> O.o
[11:09] <fsapo> goo, nice... i m thinking about starting with python.. but i still dont know when i ll got the courage to start it
[11:11] <goo> I pretty much program php4 for food. I really hate that ugly hack. Python was my first an most enduring love ;)
[11:11] <goo> s/an /and /
[11:11] <fsapo> goo, hehe thats what i ve started with php... the $$$$
[11:12] <fsapo> what = why*
[11:12] <goo> fsapo: I bet .br chicks loves the PHP programmers :)
[11:13] <fsapo> goo, ;)
[11:14] <fsapo> goo, but.. if you think about it... they dont even know wtf is php
[11:14] <hunger> Where does udev log to? My usb-stick suddenly stopped working.
[11:14] <goo> fsapo: just thell them it's magic, and you're the wizard with the huge wand. That should do the trick ;)
[11:15] <goo> but now... let me fix this switch(){ blatti; }
[11:16] <Alien_II> might as well do blatti;
[11:16] <Alien_II> hahaha
[11:16] <airbus> ah i feel stupid
[11:16] <airbus> tar -zxcv?
[11:16] <airbus> is that right
[11:17] <fsapo> airbus, why? O_o
[11:17] <goo> Alien_II: lol ;)
[11:17] <airbus> zxcv?
[11:17] <airbus> what parameters are commonly passed
[11:17] <fsapo> airbus, tar xzvf
[11:17] <fsapo> for .tar.gz
[11:17] <airbus> ah thank u
[11:17] <fsapo> airbus, tar xvf for .tar
[11:17] <airbus> uh o
[11:17] <fsapo> airbus, tar xjvf to bz2 i think.. not sure
[11:17] <airbus> its tar.bz2
[11:18] <airbus> ah ok :0)
[11:18] <goo> airbus: tar -xvjf
[11:18] <forsaker8k6> ohi people!
[11:18] <goo> fsapo: ah, didn't see you there :)
[11:18] <fsapo> goo, :p
[11:18] <fsapo> forsaker8k6, hi
[11:19] <fsapo> goo, i m just doing useless stuff anyway.. installing gdesklets, downloading some animes.. and reading the narutofan forums haha
[11:19] <anto9us> how stable is postgresql 8.02 on ubuntu?
[11:20] <airbus> this is step two of installing my audio driver: "Step 2. Turn on sound support (soundcore module, default turn on)"
[11:20] <airbus> is it me or is that overly vague
[11:20] <forsaker8k6> ...
[11:22] <airbus> "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:22] <airbus> See `config.log' for more details.
[11:22] <airbus> "
[11:23] <fsapo> airbus, do you have gcc installed?
[11:23] <forsaker8k6> airbus, have you got gcc installed?
[11:23] <airbus> im not sure
[11:23] <airbus> :-(
[11:23] <forsaker8k6> fsapo, :|
[11:23] <airbus> this is my first day using linux
[11:23] <fsapo> airbus, apt-get install gcc
[11:23] <bwb> airbus: first day? cool
[11:23] <fsapo> airbus, just type in the console: apt-get install gcc
[11:24] <airbus> ya
[11:24] <bwb> airbus: (hope this doesn't sound too strange but..) how old are you?
[11:24] <deadly_omen> salut !
[11:24] <airbus> 21 in 2 weeks
[11:24] <Alien_II> how many days
[11:24] <Alien_II> hours
[11:24] <Alien_II> minutes
[11:24] <Alien_II> and seconds (if possible) ?
[11:24] <bwb> airbus: coo.. go to school?
[11:25] <airbus> no im studying coding languages at home
[11:25] <bwb> ah what languages?
[11:25] <forsaker8k6> aribus, maybe it'st better for you to install this package: build-essential
[11:25] <airbus> i was going to school but became uninteresed
[11:25] <bwb> nod
[11:26] <forsaker8k6> simply: sudo apt-get install build essential
[11:26] <airbus> php/mysql/vb/javascript
[11:26] <forsaker8k6> *build-essential
[11:26] <deadly_omen> j'ai un ch'ti problem j'ai placer 2 tableau de bord en bas mais quand je reboot elle sont toujours en bas mais plus dans le meme ordre comment je fait pour qu'elle reste dans le meme ordre ?
[11:26] <forsaker8k6> O_o
[11:27] <goo> deadly_omen: damn right.
[11:27] <NeWiTa> deadly_omen: when you reboot save your setup
[11:27] <RTN> whoo... i got some stuff working. now i'm going on a weird path.
[11:28] <RTN> i need to connect my phone to computer over bluetooth talking IP over ppp
[11:28] <NeWiTa> deadly_omen: erm, quand vous reboot save your setup
[11:28] <RTN> i can manage. ;)
[11:28] <RTN> all right, i'll be away for 30 minutes or so...
[11:30] <NeWiTa> how do i uninstall gaim without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[11:31] <Quazion> Applications->SystemTools->AddRemovePrograms ?
[11:31] <Quazion> and then deselect gaim ?
[11:31] <airbus> good god
[11:32] <Quazion> though i think the systemtools menu is in the wrong place
[11:33] <AR> Do you use GNOME or KDE?
[11:33] <airbus> i cant install this driver for the life of me
[11:33] <airbus> haha
[11:33] <airbus> Step 3. Complied source code
[11:33] <airbus> 	a. ./configure
[11:33] <airbus> 	b. make
[11:33] <airbus> 	c. make install
[11:33] <airbus> 	d. ./snddevices
[11:33] <AR> Join the club :P
[11:33] <goo> NeWiTa: uninstalling ubuntu-desktop isn't dangerous, it's just a meta package.
[11:33] <airbus> doesnt rly work
[11:33] <NeWiTa> k, i was trying with apt but it uninstalls ubuntu-desktop along with gaim
[11:33] <NeWiTa> thks
[11:34] <NeWiTa> goo: k, thks
[11:34] <AR> My PC is such new, that even Ubuntu hasn't wrote drivers for it yet :) LOL
[11:34] <GBX> [11:34:17]  <AR> My PC is such new, that even Ubuntu hasn't wrote drivers for it yet :) LOL <-- hehe, i had the same problem :)
[11:35] <wdh_> does anyone know how to install ubuntu (warty) on a pc that does not boot from cdrom?
[11:36] <NeWiTa> wdh_: through the network? (don't really know if it's possible)
[11:37] <wdh_> i think bootfloppies are the solution.. but for some reason no one made them
[11:38] <Bladlus> Hi. I have a problem. When I start gnome, the whole system freezes. Any help?
[11:38] <airbus> ok im gonna try rebooting
[11:38] <airbus> maybe i will have magical audio support
[11:38] <airbus> brb
[11:40] <NeWiTa> wdh_: yeah, a bootfloppy will do the trick
[11:40] <NeWiTa> wdh_: be sure to include cdrom support in it
[11:41] <harsha_> does anyknows what does this wierd error means
[11:41] <harsha_> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[11:41] <harsha_>  Segmentation fault
[11:41] <odyssey> does ubuntu do the microcode update for pentium machines?
[11:42] <airbus> ok
[11:42] <airbus> now to test this
[11:43] <NeWiTa> harsha_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-5467.html
[11:44] <airbus> does ubuntu come w/ mp3 player?
[11:44] <NeWiTa> harsha_: read the first topic
[11:44] <AzMoo> Are root logins disabled?
[11:44] <Quazion> yes
[11:44] <Quazion> use sudo
[11:44] <airbus> Azmoo, you can activate them tho
[11:44] <harsha_> yes i am  a normal user
[11:44] <odyssey> why does everybody ask if root is disabled, does no one read the install screens?
[11:44] <AzMoo> airbus, how?
[11:44] <airbus> system > administratoin > login screen setup
[11:45] <airbus> under Security tab
[11:45] <AzMoo> airbus, thanks :)
[11:45] <AzMoo> odyssey, I haven't installed it. I'm doing remote support.
[11:45] <M3gaBight> i'm having problems installing ubuntu. I'm trying to install it using the CD on my IBM R32 ThinkPad, i select language and keyboard etc but it frezes on a screen saying "Retriving archive-copier" with a progress bar at 0 %, any ideas?
[11:45] <harsha_> i am usin kubuntu
[11:45] <airbus> AzMoo,  its not good practice from what ive learned so far (started linux today)
[11:45] <NeWiTa> airbus: no, instructions how to install a mp3 player: http://ubuntuguide.org/ --> search for mp3
[11:46] <Gud> I'm having a bit of problem with unrar. I can unrar the file fine in FreeBSD, but in ubuntu it just says FAILED after each file. Has anyone else had this problem?
[11:46] <airbus> AzMoo, supposedly u should be "sudo"ing everything
[11:46] <odyssey> Gud do you have unrar installed?
[11:46] <Gud> odyssey: yeah
[11:46] <Vjaz> Anyone know a way to add bookmarks to directories from a nautilus window? I know I can do that in save/load dialogs, but I haven't found a way to do it elsewhere.
[11:46] <AzMoo> airbus, There are arguments for and against. Linspire's CEO has some great arguments for simply using root on a Desktop, and I'm yet to see somebody rebutt them.
[11:47] <odyssey> Gud i also had an issue with it but i thought it was just me
[11:47] <Gud> What did you do to solve the problem?
[11:47] <Vjaz> Also, if I run nautilus in "browser mode", it actually has a menu called "Bookmarks", to which I can add directories, but they don't show up in my locations-menu in the panel.
[11:47] <airbus> ya i would prefer using root too
[11:47] <airbus> i think sudo kinda confuses some stuff
[11:48] <cedjo> 2
[11:48] <airbus> ubuntu made me lol for real tho "Linux for human beings"
[11:48] <airbus> cmon thats funny on so many levels
[11:48] <jchillerup> heh
[11:48] <odyssey> Gud i didnt, what command are you giving it? i did "unrar -e file.rar"
[11:49] <Gud> odyssey: unrar <filename>
[11:49] <anto9us> odyssey: e with no hyphen
[11:49] <odyssey> oh
[11:49] <airbus> gftp
[11:49] <airbus> is that the name of a package?
[11:49] <Gud> yes
[11:49] <jchillerup> yep
[11:50] <jchillerup> An FTP client for Gnome
[11:50] <petemc> isnt it unrar x file.rar
[11:50] <airbus> E: Couldn't find package gftp
[11:50] <Gud> petemc: It's that on FreeBSD, I think I have some weird unrar installed on Ubuntu
[11:50] <jchillerup> It is, petemc - that is, if you want to extract file.rar
[11:50] <airbus> sudo apt-get install gftp
[11:50] <airbus> right?
[11:50] <odyssey> anto9us, thanks :)
[11:50] <anto9us> np :)
[11:50] <jchillerup> Yes, airbus .. But perhaps it isn't in the Ubuntu package repository
[11:51] <airbus> that is surely sad
[11:51] <airbus> how do i get it in the repository
[11:51] <airbus> or is there another ftp client?
[11:51] <Gud> I'm installing unrar-nonfree now, I hope it works
[11:51] <Quazion> i installed gftp from the application->systemtools->addremoveprograms menu item
[11:51] <forsaker8k6> the unrar utility is something so unusefull...
[11:51] <Gud> forsaker8k6: What?
[11:51] <petemc> forsaker8k6: its useful for uncompressing rar files
[11:52] <forsaker8k6> yes... if only it would work....
[11:52] <Quazion> airbus, else try http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#gftp dont forget to add extra repositories...
[11:52] <airbus> Quazion, thanks
[11:53] <bet0x> Hello all
[11:53] <bet0x> I have a problem with my dvd
[11:53] <bet0x> is not present on /dev/dvd
[11:53] <forsaker8k6> i'm trying to install billions of rar files... and it just merrily pops out an error message :D
[11:53] <bet0x> its in /dev/hdd
[11:53] <bet0x> and my soft cant detect it
[11:53] <bet0x> but i can use it
[11:53] <bet0x> so its working
[11:53] <bet0x> how i create the device /dev/dvd ?
[11:53] <Gud> forsaker8k6: It works, you need to install unrar-nonfree
[11:53] <drcoded> I replace the g200 with ati rage IIC
[11:53] <rcas> bet0x: what soft doesn't work ?
[11:53] <drcoded> I hope it support 3d
[11:53] <bet0x> Winki the ripper
[11:53] <rcas> bet0x: you can do a /dev/dvd symlink I guess
[11:54] <forsaker8k6> tnx Gud, i'll try
[11:54] <bet0x> i have and not work
[11:54] <rcas> bet0x: You're soft should be pointing to /dev/hdc, check the configs and change that
[11:54] <drcoded> u talk to me bet?
[11:55] <airbus> does emacs have code highlighters?
[11:55] <bet0x> i can create a deevice poited to my /dev/dvd ?
[11:55] <bet0x> its more easy
[11:55] <bet0x> no?
[11:55] <bet0x> i dont see a option for reconfigure :S
[11:55] <jchillerup> Yes
[11:55] <jchillerup> Do you want /dev/cdrom (for example) to point to /dev/dvd
[11:56] <rcas> bet0x:  dunno, I would try a : ln -f /dev/hdd /dev/dvd to see if it worked out
[11:56] <jchillerup> Or /dev/hdc depending on the master/slave setting of the drive
[11:56] <bet0x> its a slave
[11:56] <bet0x> root@darkhole:/media/cdrom0 # ls -lah /dev/dvd
[11:56] <bet0x> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 13 2005-05-03 06:54 /dev/dvd -> /media/cdrom0
[11:56] <bet0x> root@darkhole:/media/cdrom0 #
[11:57] <bet0x> and i have a sym link
[11:57] <bet0x> for test
[11:57] <NeWiTa> anyone knows how to solve amsn's bug that opens not requested chat windows?
[11:57] <bet0x> but not works
[11:57] <bet0x> :s
[11:57] <anto9us> NeWiTa: I would have called it a feature, wish gaim would do that
[11:57] <airbus> anyone know if emacs has a code highlighter?
[11:58] <M3gaBight> i'm having problems installing ubuntu horay. I'm trying to install it using the CD on my IBM R32 ThinkPad, i select language and keyboard etc but it frezes on a screen saying "Retriving archive-copier" with a progress bar at 0 %, any ideas?
[11:58] <forsaker8k6> airbus, yes it has... but i really donno how to activate it
[11:58] <odyssey> NeWiTa, doesnt it open those windows because the person at the other end opens one?
[11:58] <bob2> airbus: of course
[11:58] <bob2> M3gaBight: check the md5sum of the cd
[11:58] <bob2> M3gaBight: ie "verify disk" or whatever from the main menu
[11:58] <anto9us> odyssey: exactly right, I love it, freaks people out when I type before they do
[11:58] <airbus> ok thanks
[11:58] <rcas> airbus: it does
[11:58] <bob2> airbus: M-x font-lock-mode
[11:59] <kev0r> hello, after trying GeeXbox, my Ubuntu won't boot anymore
[11:59] <kev0r> i just get a blinking "_"
[12:00] <odyssey> M3gaBight, check the install notes on the F keys it says something about IBM machines
[12:00] <kev0r> anyone knoez how to fix this?
[12:00] <M3gaBight> pl thanks guys, i'll get back on weather this helps
[12:02] <bet0x> how i umount a device if its busy ?
[12:02] <jchillerup> bet0x, find out what's using it
[12:03] <jchillerup> There's an ls<something> for that
[12:03] <petemc> bet0x: find out whats keeping it busy and stop it
[12:03] <jchillerup> only, I don't remember its name
[12:03] <petemc> lsof or fuser
[12:03] <jchillerup> Exactly
[12:03] <airbus> hmm emacs is a little more hardcore than id prefer it to be
[12:03] <jchillerup> :)
[12:03] <airbus> anyone know a text editor w/ a little more of a gui
[12:03] <forsaker8k6> airbus, try vim ;)
[12:03] <jchillerup> nanop
[12:03] <jchillerup> nano
[12:03] <francque> My little sister wants to run ubuntu 5.03, will it run on a 375mhz 384mb ram?
[12:03] <airbus> ah vim so scary tho
[12:03] <jchillerup> Yes
[12:03] <jchillerup> airbus, try nano
[12:03] <forsaker8k6> :)
[12:03] <francque> airbus:  nano is your friend
[12:04] <airbus> haha
[12:04] <airbus> is that in repository?
[12:04] <jchillerup> I guess
[12:04] <forsaker8k6> wazwaz... vim rulez!!! ... forever... muahahahah
[12:04] <jchillerup> I don't run ubuntu on this computer, but I HAVE nano on my laptop (running ubuntu)
[12:04] <jchillerup> Worst case is that you need to add a repository
[12:05] <warriorfr> yo
[12:05] <kev0r> anyone hwere know how i can boot my pc again, just hangs after hardware initilisations with a bliking _
[12:05] <airbus> um nano is evn less than emacs lol
[12:05] <francque> jchillerup:  but you say 5.03 works fine on 375mhz, 384 mb ram? :p
[12:05] <jchillerup> I would say
[12:05] <jchillerup> I don't know it for sure
[12:05] <francque> or was that 'Yes' meant for another person ;p
[12:05] <francque> ah ok
[12:05] <airbus> i will learn vim
[12:05] <francque> I will try it
[12:05] <jchillerup> But it has a lot of ram for that small processor
[12:05] <jchillerup> I think it'll go smoothly
[12:06] <forsaker8k6> that's the right spirit, airbus !!
[12:06] <jchillerup> Heh airbus
[12:06] <francque> jchillerup:  it needed the ram for win xp :p
[12:06] <airbus> yes jchillerup ?
[12:06] <jchillerup> certainly :)
[12:06] <jchillerup> huh, airbus ?? "yes"?!
[12:06] <airbus> oh i thought you said "hey airbus", my bad
[12:06] <forsaker8k6> wow... unrar-nonfree is like to work! amazing....
[12:07] <jchillerup> :)
[12:07] <NeWiTa> odyssey and anto9us: it is a known bug, it opens windows that supposedly mean that the other person has clicked to chat with you.. the catch: they don't, it just opens windows randomly
[12:07] <forsaker8k6> but.. that nonfree thing... it doesn't like me too much....
[12:07] <bet0x> any here know a dvd rip tool?
[12:08] <jchillerup> no, sorry
[12:08] <petemc> forsaker8k6: it cant handle V3 rar files
[12:08] <forsaker8k6> mm... if i only knew what are V3 files... :D
[12:09] <petemc> forsaker8k6: probably it would be safe to say the ones that dont work with the free version are V3
[12:09] <forsaker8k6> :P... really kind definition :D :D
[12:09] <odyssey> NeWiTa, wait for them to fix the bug?
[12:09] <jchillerup> bet0x, libdvdcss can help you with the actual decrypting of the DVDs
[12:10] <forsaker8k6> anyway.. thank you for the hint of installing the nonfree version ;)
[12:10] <petemc> bet0x: dvdrip
[12:10] <odyssey> bet0x, thoggen
[12:10] <NeWiTa> odyssey: that's one way to do it, i was hoping for a more immediate solution
[12:11] <bet0x> any test in hoary?
[12:11] <fsapo> bet0x, what exactly do you want to do?
[12:11] <larsrohdin> hi, im having troubles with .xsession... i get the error Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".   in ~.xsession-errors
[12:11] <bet0x> i have 7 hours working triying to rip
[12:11] <fsapo> bet0x, try apt-get install dvdrip ;)
[12:11] <odyssey> NeWiTa, google is probably your best bet for an answer or the amsn mailing list if they have one
[12:11] <bet0x> fsapo, problems with transcode :S
[12:11] <fsapo> bet0x, you will need trascode + dvdrip
[12:11] <airbus> omg i didnt know gedit had highlighter
[12:11] <airbus> ill just use that
[12:11] <bet0x> im using the official apt-get sources and nothing
[12:11] <fsapo> bet0x, what kind of problems?
[12:12] <NeWiTa> odyssey: i'm googling for it :) thks anyway
[12:12] <bet0x> dvdrip: Depende: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) pero no es instalable
[12:12] <bet0x> that
[12:12] <bet0x> :)
[12:12] <fsapo> bet0x, try apt-get install acidrip
[12:12] <fsapo> bet0x, but you will need mplayer
[12:12] <petemc> bet0x: add a marillat source
[12:12] <bet0x> petemc, what the deb source?
[12:12] <petemc> yes
[12:13] <jiyuu0> bet0x, try http://ubuntuguide.org/#dvdrip
[12:13] <jiyuu0> fresh from oven
[12:13] <forsaker8k6> can anyone suggest me some cool repo for amd64 packages?
[12:13] <fsapo> bet0x, here to install dvdrip i had to do it: comment everything in the sources.list and uncomment just this one: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[12:14] <RTN> did you notice that i joined the Ubuntu channel again?
[12:14] <fsapo> bet0x, then i installed transcode... and installed dvdrip
[12:14] <Rydekull> fisk
[12:14] <RTN> fisk is fish in danish?
[12:14] <bad_mongo> torsk
[12:15] <ztonzy> abborre :)
[12:16] <larsrohdin> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0". whats the problem?
[12:16] <NeWiTa> found a solution: for who it may concern:
[12:16] <NeWiTa> In stable version (0.94) you don't have the feature to only open the windows when someone sends you a message. For some reason, when you log in, you get plenty of windows opened with no apparent reason. The option to "block" this behaviour only appears in CVS version (0.95b).
[12:16] <NeWiTa> :)
[12:17] <bet0x> Violacin de segmento
[12:17] <bet0x> Segment fault
[12:17] <bet0x> with acid rip
[12:17] <bet0x> xD
[12:18] <fsapo> bet0x, do you have mplayer installed?
[12:18] <fsapo> acidrip and dvdrip are working here ;P
[12:19] <odyssey> fsapo, do you find your rips have aspect ratios muddled?
[12:19] <bet0x> testing dvdrip now
[12:19] <fsapo> odyssey, no.. everything perfect
[12:21] <odyssey> thats good
[12:22] <paulfox> any openoffice guru's here? :)
[12:23] <kev0r> anybody here that can tell me how i can reinstall grub?
[12:24] <kev0r> pc not booting anymore
[12:24] <NeWiTa> paulfox: ask yout question, maybe someone non-guru knows :)
[12:24] <bet0x>   mplayer-nogui: Depende: libbio2jack0 pero no va a instalarse
[12:24] <bet0x>                  Depende: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.0) pero 2.2.3-4ubuntu7 va a ser instalado
[12:24] <bet0x>                  Depende: libjack0.80.0-0 (>= 0.99.0) pero no es instalable
[12:24] <bet0x>                  Depende: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) pero 1.0.1-1 va a ser instalado
[12:24] <bet0x> some broken packages
[12:24] <bet0x> fsapo,
[12:24] <paulfox> i'm trying to get oo to export a presentation, but i need slide+notes. i've got it exporting slides + slides and notes(two lots of slides)
[12:24] <bet0x> :/
[12:25] <fsapo> bet0x, ?
[12:26] <bet0x> i dont have mplayer
[12:26] <bet0x> =/
[12:26] <fsapo> bet0x, just a moment
[12:26] <fsapo> bet0x, try this: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mplayer
[12:27] <NeWiTa> paulfox: that i can't even google for :D maybe somebody else here knows?
[12:28] <paulfox> NeWiTa, yeah i can't find anything...does microsoft work have export to pdf? i might have to use that
[12:28] <Disc00rd> Does Multimedia Player support Mp3's?
[12:29] <NeWiTa> paulfox: yes, it has export to pdf, if that solves it :)
[12:30] <paulfox> ta
[12:33] <bet0x> ripping i think
[12:33] <bet0x> i see a progress bar
[12:33] <bet0x> but i dont know XD
[12:33] <jiyuu0> bet0x, that instruction at ubuntuguide will only rip xvid
[12:33] <fsapo> bet0x, xD
[12:33] <jiyuu0> i'm still lookin on how it could rip divx
[12:34] <bet0x> any here speack spanish?
[12:34] <fsapo> jiyuu0, dvdrip i think.. btw xvid ownz divx :P
[12:35] <jiyuu0> dvdrip won't rip divx off the shelf
[12:35] <jiyuu0> have u manage to rip divx
[12:35] <jiyuu0> using it?
[12:35] <odyssey> oac bets xvid
[12:35] <bet0x> im ripping
[12:36] <bet0x> :O
[12:36] <jiyuu0> bet0x, in which codec u ripping?
[12:36] <yonil> Huh? my computer stuck, so i did alt+ctrl+backspace, but now it came back as 640X480 and i cant change the resulotion (640X480 is the only option) - any help?
[12:36] <bet0x> ffmpeg
[12:36] <bet0x> mpeg4
[12:36] <odyssey> yonil, ctrl + alt + +
[12:36] <me101> hi guys
[12:36] <jiyuu0> bet0x, have u tried divx?
[12:37] <yonil> odyssey, that doesnt do anything :\
[12:37] <odyssey> press - instead of plux
[12:37] <odyssey> plus
[12:37] <bet0x> divx dont works
[12:37] <bet0x> yes i try
[12:37] <fsapo> bet0x, good luck :D
[12:37] <bet0x> :D
[12:37] <bet0x> fsapo, 30' and its ripped
[12:37] <bet0x> my dvd-rw its scsi
[12:37] <bet0x> and my hd too
[12:38] <bet0x> :P
[12:38] <yonil> odyssey, again nothing, as i said i dont have any options to change the resolution to .. :(
[12:38] <bet0x> i love speed
[12:38] <bet0x> xD
[12:38] <me101> I was trying to find a way to update today to UBUNTU 5.04
[12:38] <fsapo> bet0x, acidrip works... but dvdrip is far better :P
[12:38] <bet0x> acid dont works to me
[12:38] <bet0x> im a little noob with dvds
[12:38] <me101> and if anyone wants to do it, go to: "http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/ReleaseNotes504"
[12:38] <jiyuu0> bet0x, u notice the output... seems like there's line
[12:38] <jiyuu0> u get the same thing?
[12:38] <fsapo> me101, apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get dist-update or someting like it :P
[12:39] <odyssey> yonil, then you will have to edit your xorg.conf
[12:39] <wdh_> fsapo, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:39] <me101> thanks, but I've done it
[12:39] <wdh_> yonil, try running rsandr
[12:39] <fsapo> wdh, thats it ;) it worked for me like a charm
[12:39] <wdh_> xrandr
[12:40] <kev0r> How do i create a bootdisk with sata included?
[12:40] <bet0x> i love my Sony BW-F101 :)
[12:40] <bet0x> my system its a little broken after test's
[12:41] <bet0x> woody 2 warty patched to hoary
[12:41] <bet0x> x
[12:41] <bet0x> xD
[12:41] <yonil> wdh, what about it ?
[12:41] <yonil> *0    640 x 480    ( 217mm x 163mm )  *60
[12:41] <yonil>  1    320 x 240    ( 217mm x 163mm )   60
[12:42] <hussam> I have a kodak cx7310 usb digital camera. what software do I need to get it to work on ubuntu?
[12:46] <karljp> hussam: depends what you want to do.  have you tried just plugging it in and running gphoto?
[12:46] <bet0x> im ripping and looking a movie withthe same dvd
[12:46] <bet0x> :O
[12:46] <hussam> karljp: no I just plugged it in.
[12:48] <kev0r> nobody here that can help me, getting desperate
[12:49] <hussam> karljp: i'm installing gphoto and gtkam now
[12:52] <cyberix> Executing perl -e "fork while fork" locks Ubuntu up. Ubuntu should have some limits to solve this.
[12:52] <cyberix> This can't be allowed to happen to a normal user
[12:52] <petemc> cyberix: thats old news
[12:53] <petemc> and it affects more than just ubuntu
[12:53] <tshortall> ubuntu and most other distros have generous per-user resource limits
[12:53] <tshortall> by default
[12:53] <tshortall> if you want to tighten things up you can.
[12:54] <cyberix> tshortall: They can't be set by heuristic?
[12:55] <cyberix> tshortall: To avoid complete lock up.
[12:55] <tshortall> not sure what you mean. as in the limit should change to react to user's demands on resources?
[12:55] <karljp> cyberix: bullshit
[12:55] <cyberix> karljp: ?
[12:55] <karljp> gui ubuntu is 99% of the time going to be used by 1 person
[12:56] <karljp> so if you forkbomb yourself....
[12:56] <cyberix> karljp: What, if a software bug fork bombs you?
[12:56] <tshortall> yeah, but ubuntu is also going to be used in multi user situations.
[12:56] <cyberix> karljp: Lets say something in login phase
[12:56] <scorpix> is there somthing like deltarpm for .deb packages?
[12:56] <cyberix> karljp: A normal user can't make his system work anymore.
[12:57] <karljp> cyberix: then go run your netbsd mr security
[12:57] <cyberix> So he has to reinstall Ubuntu.
[12:57] <karljp> and stop whining about potentials
[12:57] <membreya> in mounting an NTFS harddrive to allow EVERYONE access, without using UIDs, would a chmod 777 on the mounted directory allow access?
[12:57] <karljp> well, it would,
[12:57] <membreya> but? :P
[12:58] <tshortall> ugh. this is getting nowhere. if you are in a situation where forkbomb is a potential problem just  change the settings :
[12:58] <karljp> but you're just going to get wierd errors when people try to write to it :)
[12:58] <membreya> lol ;)
[12:58] <membreya> 775 ? :P
[12:58] <NeWiTa> anyone plays or knows about a popular mmorpg for linux?
[12:58] <membreya> NeWiTa: I use a java based web client one :P
[12:58] <airbus> ok im goin to bed
[12:59] <NeWiTa> membreya: for which game? :)
[12:59] <airbus> ive been tinkering for 6hrs straight now
[12:59] <karljp> mem: are you putting it in fstab?
[12:59] <airbus> gnite guys thanks for all the help
[12:59] <membreya> karljp: ya
[01:00] <no0tic> I've a problem with a microphone, I can hear it but I can't use it as recording source, how I can do it?
[01:00] <karljp> mem: I just have /dev/hda1       /c              ntfs    umask=0222 seems to work just fine for me.
[01:00] <karljp> I should probably put "ro" in as well.
[01:01] <stianh> hello
[01:01] <karljp> are youhaving problems with people not being able to get to it?
[01:01] <stianh> anyone with experience with gnomad2/libnjb
[01:01] <stianh> +
[01:01] <stianh> ? I seem to be having trouble getting libnjb to realize that I have connected my jukebox
[01:02] <larsrohdin> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0", whats wrong?
[01:03] <larsrohdin> anyone?
[01:04] <hussam> karljp: i install gtkam but it won't detect the kodak digital camera
[01:05] <NeWiTa> membreya: for which game? :)
[01:05] <drac> larsrohdin: http://www.pastebin.com/279029
[01:06] <drac> larsrohdin: That's xorg.conf..
[01:06] <drac> hussam: Try changing the mode in your camera to PTP.
[01:06] <drac> hussam: And you need to be in 'plugdev' or was that 'camera' group.
[01:08] <fabio> hi All
[01:08] <fabio> guys I need a little help
[01:08] <fsapo> fabio, falae char :)
[01:08] <fsapo> fabio, hi :D
[01:08] <fabio> sHi fsapo
[01:08] <fabio> fsapo could u give me a help?
[01:09] <hussam> drac: I added my user to group camera? what's PTP?
[01:09] <fsapo> fabio, it depends on your question.. btw just ask it :)
[01:09] <drac> hussam: Don't ask me, it's just that libgphoto2 (gtkam) supports some cameras only in that mode.
[01:10] <fabio> everytime I start Ubuntu two errors come up to the screen, just after logged in, telling me that two folders (which they were on the Desktop) cannot be found
[01:10] <drac> hussam: Logout, login to make that groupadd in effective ..
[01:10] <hussam> ok, brb
[01:10] <fabio> because I deleted one, and renamed the other
[01:11] <fabio> fsapo, drac, any idea?
[01:11] <fabio> I mean, is Ubuntu all the time trying to launch the folders on the Desktop?
[01:12] <larsrohdin> that worked, but now i get this error...Failed to load groupfile:
[01:12] <larsrohdin> BScreen::BScreen: managing screen 0 using visual 0x23, depth 24
[01:13] <drcoded> hi all
[01:13] <stianh> fabio: perhaps selecting "save session" when logging out will work. You might have had these windows open when leaving gnome and saving the session, when you then deleted it it now tries to load them but fails
[01:13] <drcoded> I have strange error when I try to apt-get install xorg-driver
[01:13] <stianh> just my initial thoughts
[01:15] <fabio> stianh, yes u right, I now remember it!! I did save it, so do I save my session again, without those folders, as the current status is now?
[01:16] <larsrohdin> is anyone here good with .xsession-problems?
[01:17] <fabio> Guys, is anywone here involved into Ubuntu development?
[01:18] <lifeless> theres a rumour
[01:18] <fabio> lifeless, what?
[01:18] <dross> fabio: #ubuntu-devel has people like that ;)
[01:18] <fabio> oh thanks a lot dross
[01:19] <lifeless> there are plenty of devs here too
[01:19] <dross> lifeless: yes, but they stay quiet :)
[01:19] <larsrohdin> they are watching us....
[01:19] <fabio> cool, well I was going to create a web-site based on Ubuntu
[01:20] <fsapo> fabio, where are you from?
[01:21] <fabio> Italy, but live in UK
[01:21] <drcoded> it give me /quit
[01:21] <drcoded> exit
[01:21] <drcoded> exit
[01:21] <drcoded> exit
[01:21] <drcoded> exut
[01:21] <larsrohdin> exut?
[01:21] <dross> dumb BX user....
[01:21] <larsrohdin> =)
[01:21] <dross> BX is for kids
[01:21] <fabio> fsapo, why?
[01:21] <beerockxs> can anyone help me get my gameport joystick to work?
[01:23] <fsapo> fabio, nice.. cause you have the same name as me :) and i m brazillian.. and fabio is a very common name here
[01:23] <drcoded> Why I got this error : dpkg-divert: `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.xlibmesa by xorg-driver-fglrx' clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 to /usr/lib/libGL-no-dri-trunk.so.1 by xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk'
[01:23] <drcoded> any idea?
[01:23] <DeMonet> Hi, what's the fastest way to get Ubuntu CD's in South Africa ? Anyone have any ideas ?
[01:23] <fabio> oh cool, I didn't know that, I have a friend from San Paulo
[01:23] <dross> DeMonet: download then :)
[01:23] <dross> *them
[01:23] <drcoded> I got it in apt-get
[01:24] <DeMonet> dross: *grin* Over a 28k8 modem ? No thanks ! :)
[01:24] <dross> DeMonet: it should only take you a month ;)
[01:24] <beerockxs> anyone?
[01:35] <onkarshinde> Has Firefox 1.0.3 been added as security update in ubuntu repositories?
[01:35] <GNAM> what's your favourite newsreader?
[01:35] <drac> GNAM: What's yours?
[01:35] <GNAM> i've not tried any
[01:36] <lewwy> hey can anyone here help with with an install of SuSE 9.3 DVD live?  I get a source not defined error
[01:36] <drac> lewwy: Do you realize in what channel you are in?
[01:36] <lewwy> yes
[01:36] <lewwy> but i also realise that no other distro has live help
[01:36] <drac> sigh.
[01:36] <lewwy> especially SuSE
[01:36] <lewwy> dude if you want i'll go away
[01:37] <drac> Install Ubuntu then.
[01:37] <lewwy> dont have to act hard done by
[01:37] <fabio> Ubuntu is the vest
[01:37] <fabio> best
[01:37] <lewwy> yeh i used to have it
[01:37] <lewwy> i'll install it when my cd's come
[01:37] <lewwy> till then SuSE looks the best and works the best for smee
[01:37] <lewwy> so noone can help?
[01:38] <fabio> 15mins for a full Ubuntu installation on my budget pc
[01:38] <lewwy> ok
[01:38] <lewwy> well from what i can see
[01:38] <lewwy> someone can either send me the ubuntu cd's, or i can continue to use SuSE
[01:38] <lewwy> the ISO's are too big for me to get
[01:39] <fabio> well, wait until u get from the post then, where u live lewwy?
[01:39] <NeWiTa> what connection do you have?
[01:40] <lewwy> austrlia, beenleigh
[01:40] <lewwy> i have 256/128 w/ 10g limit
[01:40] <lewwy> brother owns it
[01:40] <lewwy> so if i kill the limit
[01:40] <lewwy> he kills me :P
[01:41] <fabio> oh, hmm I thought u were inE
[01:41] <fabio> EU
[01:42] <NeWiTa> the connection isn't bad, the brother owning it is :D
[01:42] <fabio> bye guys
[01:43] <lewwy> hehe
[01:43] <lewwy> so anyone wanna send a CD to me gratis?
[01:43] <AstralJava> lewwy: Have you checked the site? There should be a way to order a cd free!
[01:44] <lewwy> yeh
[01:44] <lewwy> shipit
[01:44] <karljp> optus or telstra?
[01:44] <lewwy> had them on order since the beginning of last mointh
[01:44] <lewwy> telstra
[01:44] <karljp> so no end of month leeching then
[01:45] <karljp> and isn't mirror.aarnet free for you?
[01:45] <lewwy> iunno
[01:45] <lewwy> is it?
[01:45] <karljp> I think so.
[01:45] <bob2> lewwy: if you ordered before hoary came out, you should get them in the next couple of weeks
[01:45] <karljp> get on #sydney on irc.ausnet or whatever it is and ask
[01:45] <karljp> or read your whirlpool
[01:45] <karljp> I'm pretty sure that you can get isos for free with both telstra and optus
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> karljp: aarnet is using optus bandwidth
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> but I'm pretty sure that telstra mirror hoary somewhere
[01:46] <karljp> does telstra provide nothing?
[01:46] <beerockxs> can anyone help me get my gameport joystick to work?
[01:46] <karljp> yeah, I'm pretty sure telstra has some sort of deal for isos
[01:46] <amnesia> does anyone know what the logout menu hibernation and standby exactly do? are they hard coded or do they execute the /etc/acpi/ scripts
[01:47] <bob2> amnesia: the scripts
[01:47] <thoreauputic> bob2, Now on Hoary :)
[01:47] <bob2> hah
[01:47] <thoreauputic> at last
[01:47] <amnesia> bob2: so standby.sh and hibernate.sh. Thank
[01:47] <amnesia> s
[01:48] <occy> *sigh*
[01:49] <occy> My Ubuntu desktop locked up again.
[01:49] <occy> Someone here asked me about if the numlock key was working while it locked up.
[01:49] <occy> I can say now that, no, the numlock key isn't working.
[01:50] <occy> tried: alt+sysreq+s  + u +b
[01:50] <odyssey> occy boot with noapic nolapic options in grub
[01:50] <occy> that doesn't do anything either.
[01:51] <occy> odyssey, hi there.  What do those options mean?
[01:51] <occy> cool first letter of your nickname.
[01:51] <occy> :)
[01:51] <karljp> if that kid with telstra broadband comes back, tell hiim files.bigpond.com has isos for him to download that don't go towards his quota
[01:52] <matid> Hi
[01:52] <thoreauputic> any particular reason anyone can think of why my cpu should be bouncing between 5 and 25% on Hoary when it never did so on warty in the same situation?
[01:53] <karljp> it's all the secret computation that ubuntu is doing in the background
[01:53] <occy> odyssey, I'll try that.  Running through memtest86+ now.
[01:53] <karljp> shuttleworth is actually running the numbers on his theories to take over the world
[01:53] <thoreauputic> karljp, ;)
[01:53] <thoreauputic> hehheh
[01:53] <karljp> ubuntu is just a big social virus to get his own personal gridcomputing set up
[01:53] <matid> Did anyone came across DVD+R writing problem in Ubuntu Hoary? My DVD+R blank discs appear on the desktop as CD-ROM Discs and cannot burn them...
[01:53] <thoreauputic> well at least my mouse isn't jumping about of its own accord...
[01:54] <bretzel> karljp: ?
[01:56] <bretzel> karljp: Thus, Microsoft Windows is just a big CAPITALIST virus to get his own personal gridcomputing set up :-) :-)
[01:57] <matid> anyone know?
[01:57] <thoreauputic> what I have here looks more like an anarchist virus :0
[01:57] <jacquesmerde> what does the "%u" in "firefox %u" do?
[01:58] <jacquesmerde> i tried to find the answer to the above question on google, but google didnt seem to like it
[01:58] <jacquesmerde> google doesnt seem to like "%"
[01:59] <Nalioth> thoreauputic, are they different pkgs than the normal xfce4?
[01:59] <thoreauputic> Nalioth, just the hoary ones for 4.2 I think, with rox-filer etc
[01:59] <amnesia> jacquesmerde: u is the first parameter?
[02:00] <jacquesmerde> why are paramaters being passed with "%"? and what does the u paramater do?
[02:00] <RTN> huh.
[02:00] <RTN> i'm missing flashplayer for mozilla...
[02:00] <bretzel> just read Thoreauputic's puzzle about CPU load and firedup "top" then : what is that "multiload-apple" process running ??? it eats 3% off the cpu ???
[02:00] <RTN> no for firefox
[02:01] <RTN> flashplayer for firefox... how can i?
[02:01] <karljp> google for ubuntu restricted formats
[02:01] <karljp> it will return a useful wikipage which has how to install it
[02:01] <matid> Did anyone came across DVD+R writing problem in Ubuntu Hoary? My DVD+R blank discs appear on the desktop as CD-ROM Discs and cannot burn them... ???
[02:01] <bretzel> RTN: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[02:02] <anto9us> will postgresql 8.02 install ok on hoary?
[02:03] <amnesia> matid: try to unmount them before burning
[02:04] <dcraven> How is everyone today?
[02:04] <karljp> excellent! I just got called up for a job interview
[02:04] <karljp> and yourself?
[02:04] <RTN> ouch. thank you again. i will have to document it all for my own usage...
[02:04] <dcraven> karljp: Nice! Congrats!
[02:04] <dcraven> I'm okay.
[02:04] <gorilla_> karljp, best of luck with that :-)
[02:04] <karljp> thanks :)
[02:04] <anto9us> dcraven: I'm good, I'm absolutely thrilled with ubuntu
[02:05] <RTN> how come that ubuntu does not have a flash-player plugin, but has firmware for ipw2100?
[02:05] <RTN> both are non-free...
[02:05] <dcraven> anto9us: Glad to hear it. It kinda bit me too.
[02:05] <karljp> probably because of the exact type of non-freeness
[02:05] <karljp> restrictedformats/nonfree is a pain
[02:05] <anto9us> the framework for my application server is all set up, just have to import the data and it will be running
[02:05] <dcraven> RTN: It has a flash plugin no?
[02:05] <davekempe_> RTN - I asked shuttleworth about that - he said they draw the line at hardware drivers as the only non-free in ubuntu
[02:06] <RTN> so the same applies probably for w32codecs...
[02:06] <RTN> in know the reply already... wiki... :P
[02:06] <RTN> wiki is too much information...
[02:07] <RTN> looks like the flash thing works now...
[02:07] <karljp> http://beeroclock.net/highlife.cgi
[02:07] <bretzel> RTN: tse tse!!! ssshhht!!
[02:07] <karljp> I wonder if I'll get a job today, or whether I'll make 300 days.
[02:07] <bretzel> karljp: sorry but in what kind of job are you appointed for ?
[02:07] <karljp> nothing yet :)
[02:08] <karljp> general programmer position I'm interviewing for
[02:08] <jacquesmerde> can ANYone tell me what the u paramater does in firefox %u? the firefox launcher uses it in ubuntu
[02:08] <Vjaz> Anyone know how to make Metacity snap windows to edges and other windows?
[02:08] <bretzel> karljp: lucky you!!! I have 12 years of knowledge in C/C++ programming but NO degree!!! this kind of job is not for me :-)
[02:08] <bretzel> :-(
[02:09] <amnesia> jacquesmerde: told you. that's the first parameter of the program
[02:09] <matid> jacqesmerde: probably the URL
[02:09] <peanut> Anyone free to help me with a corrupt rndc.key?
[02:09] <dcraven> karljp: The interview is today?
[02:09] <karljp> yeah, later this afternoon.
[02:10] <dcraven> karljp: Holy. Good luck!
[02:10] <Nalioth> time for work
[02:10] <Nalioth> see y'all later
[02:10] <jacquesmerde> amnesia: you didnt tell me what the paramater WAS though
[02:11] <jacquesmerde> so where is the value of %u set, to link it to the actual url?
[02:11] <amnesia> jacquesmerde: well what would it be?
[02:11] <bretzel> karljp: yes, wish you very good brain shape, relax, and be a bit humouristic when no important situation to answer -- especially if there is a women :-) :-)
[02:11] <amnesia> jacquesmerde: of course anything that you pass to it
[02:12] <RTN> so what means marillat?
[02:12] <amnesia> jacquesmerde: a monkey, an apple, or an url
[02:12] <drac> RTN: Marillat is a person.
[02:12] <drac> RTN: Christian is his first name.
[02:12] <amnesia> doesn't matter, it is _a_ parameter :)
[02:12] <RTN> if the context is reprository?
[02:12] <janisx> hello can anybody help me with openoffice
[02:13] <jacquesmerde> amnesia: so where does ubuntu store the url value of %u?
[02:13] <dcraven> RTN: It's just a repository that some guy maintains of stuff that is not typically in the Debian repos as far as I understand.
[02:13] <RTN> what help you need with openoffice?
[02:13] <RTN> okey, if something is in marillat, how do i add this into my reprositories?
[02:13] <amnesia> jacquesmerde: nowhere. that one is coming from the application
[02:14] <RTN> is the marillat synonym of multiverse or something?
[02:14] <amnesia> RTN: no. that is just one repository
[02:14] <petemc> RTN: theres plenty of info on marillat in the wiki
[02:15] <RTN> that's what i mean: plenty=too much....
[02:15] <dcraven> RTN: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:15] <RTN> been there already.
[02:15] <karljp> (just don't try and install mplayer from marillat, it's easier and faster to build form source)
[02:15] <RTN> i'm there now actually...
[02:15] <HrdwrBoB> karljp: or you can get it from universe
[02:15] <dcraven> RTN: Well then I don't understand what you want.
[02:16] <RTN> sorry guys, boss wants me... thanx anyway.
[02:16] <karljp> hrdwrbob: well, it seemed to want to use the mplayer one for me, maybe I didn't try hard enough to say, use vesion from Y, not X
[02:18] <dcraven> Mplayer is in *multi*verse
[02:22] <janisx> how can I use shortcut on OpenOffice for non-us language
[02:22] <RTN> huh. boss wants the same thing... w32codecs :P
[02:22] <joha1> hello everybody..
[02:23] <RTN> i'm the bad guy, i have converted 60% of our office from windows to Ubuntu...
[02:23] <RTN> no... 75%
[02:23] <RTN> 6 out of 8.
[02:23] <janisx> can u help me please
[02:24] <occy> Bios Bug local #0 apic not detected.
[02:25] <dcraven> janisx: I don't see a switch for it at the command line if that is what you mean.
[02:27] <janisx> Always on Ooo, when I use my non-us keyboard can't for example use CTRL+B
[02:27] <dcraven> RTN: I think I'm using the w32codecs from the Backports project.
[02:28] <Chameleon22> alright in that case the question is, whats the difference between iptables -t filter -F and iptables -t filter -X ?
[02:28] <RTN> all right, half of my problems start with ftp being closed...
[02:28] <jiyuu0> RTN, if u need to install those apps on many PCs... try the add-on cd
[02:28] <jiyuu0> it's offline
[02:28] <jiyuu0> offline installation of all the apps
[02:29] <RTN> I don't consider 6 being many... of course 7th one is at home...
[02:30] <dcraven> janisx: I hate to pass the buck, but I don't know anything about OpenOffice. There is a channel here called #openoffice.org thought that may be able to help.
[02:31] <dcraven> People still use ftp?
[02:31] <dcraven> heh
[02:31] <karljp> unfortuantely yes :(
[02:31] <karljp> I have to ftp to my webhost, no ssh.
[02:32] <dcraven> karljp: I wonder why that is?
[02:32] <dcraven> karljp: They cater to Windows users I suppose. FTP was all I ever used as a Windows guy. I'd never heard of ssh.
[02:32] <janisx> thanks dcraven
[02:32] <dcraven> janisx: No problem. I hope they can help.
[02:32] <joha1> I'm having problems to understand the way permissions work in ubuntu.
[02:32] <joha1>  I can't copy  dokument from for example the "Home" map to /usr/lib in Gnome.
[02:33] <joha1> Im newbie:-/
[02:33] <dcraven> joha1: Users only have write permissions to their home directory.
[02:34] <karljp> dcraven: more that ssh is still "new" compared to webhosting.
[02:34] <karljp> and if they offer ssh, then they have gumbies with shells,
[02:34] <karljp> who would then complain if it was more limited than a real shell.
[02:34] <dcraven> joha1: Typically, that's all they need. If you *need* to copy a file to /usr/lib like you say, prepend "sudo" to the copy command and type your user password when it asks.
[02:34] <karljp> I can understand why they do it.
[02:34] <jiyuu0> joha1, or u can try sudo nautilus
[02:35] <dcraven> joha1: But be careful when you use sudo, you can do *anything*, including bad things :)
[02:35] <Cowlike-away> ssh just runs whatever shell the user is defined to run on the host machine
[02:35] <RTN> if i do a new install, can i keep the contents of home directories. i have separate partition for /home at the moment...
[02:35] <dcraven> I keep forgetting about nautilus.
[02:35] <jiyuu0> seems like there isn't a menu item for File Browser (as root)
[02:35] <dcraven> karljp: I don't get it.
[02:36] <dcraven> RTN: Absolutely. That's what I do.
[02:36] <RTN> cool. basically if i screw up, i can start all over...
[02:36] <Cowlike> ssh is better than telnet and ftp because telnet and ftp send your password in the clear while you are authenticating
[02:36] <anto9us> is there a binary for postgresql 8.02 somewhere?
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> dcraven: I use it constantly
[02:37] <dcraven> jiyuu0: You're right.. I just see root terminal.
[02:37] <HrdwrBoB> although not sudo nautilus
[02:37] <jiyuu0> dcraven,  i'll add that to guide as a tip
[02:37] <jiyuu0> create a new shortcut File Broswer (as root)
[02:37] <RTN> are the mr marillat reprositories available through http also, or only ftp?
[02:38] <jiyuu0> at Applications -> System Tools
[02:38] <dcraven> anto9us: Hmm.. Looks like 7.47 is it.
[02:38] <anto9us> ty dcraven
[02:39] <dcraven> jiyuu0: Good idea.
[02:39] <dcraven> anto9us: ;)
[02:39] <RTN> what happened?
[02:39] <resiak> Someone set up us the bomb!
[02:39] <Cowlike> netsplit?
[02:39] <dcraven> Huh?
[02:40] <RTN> looked pretty cool. :)
[02:40] <dcraven> I have parts/quits filtered.. Everyone left?
[02:40] <Cowlike> various servers within the freenode network quit communicating
[02:40] <dcraven> Ahh 299 nicks now.. eek
[02:41] <joha1> dcraven: and  jiyuu0: yes what I want is to  get the pop up window in gnome so I can give root rights to write..
[02:41] <Yaroon> I get dpkg: serious warning - file list files missing for package xxx with every apt-get I try...
[02:42] <joha1> dcraven: and  jiyuu0: yes what I want is to  get the pop up window in gnome so I can give root rights to write..
[02:43] <joha1> Can I turn this funktion on somehow??
[02:43] <Kisain> whats the command for reconfiguring grub after putting a second hd in?
[02:43] <rudi-rudi> hello all..
[02:44] <dcraven> joha1: You can create a launcher with the command "gksudo nautilus" or something like that.
[02:44] <joha1> I wan't to be able to work in gnome..
[02:44] <beerockxs> can anyone tell me what i need to do to get a gameport joystick to work?
[02:44] <dcraven> joha1: I'm just not sure why you need root permission to do work, but it's your machine :)
[02:45] <Cowlike> why is he trying to write to /usr/lib via nautilus?
[02:45] <Kisain> can sme one tell me the command to reconfigure grub?
[02:46] <dcraven> Kisain: update-grub?
[02:46] <joha1> dcraven: okej I see...I don't understand what ether? I think mayby I have change some defult seting?
[02:46] <dcraven> Kisain: That will write it for you, I don't know if that is what you want though.
[02:47] <dcraven> joha1: Can you explain what you are trying to do? Maybe we can help better then.
[02:47] <dcraven> beerockxs: Is it an analog stick?
[02:48] <drcooded> HI all
[02:48] <dcraven> beerockxs: Or what kind of joystick is it? You probably just need to load the appropriate kernel module.
[02:48] <dcraven> drcooded: Hello!
[02:48] <drcooded> if I have ATI RAGE IIC , It can use 3d in glxinfo?
[02:48] <HrdwrBoB> drcooded: only if you're desperate
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> and even then probably not
[02:49] <drcooded> direct rendering: No
[02:49] <drcooded> how
[02:49] <drcooded> I check some probjects but not with ubuntu
[02:49] <drcooded> I Mean I didnt find solustion in debian how I Can install it?
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> a Rage IIc ?
[02:49] <drcooded> yes
[02:49] <HrdwrBoB> I'm not sure it'll ever work
[02:50] <drcooded> I Have two option ATI RAGE IIC or Matrox G200
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> you're talking about a video card that's like .. 8-10 generations (I think) old
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> G200 will work
[02:50] <drcooded> I Dont know how it better
[02:50] <drcooded> realy
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> the G200 has full open source 3d support
[02:50] <drcooded> I try the G200 without lack
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> and is a faster chip
[02:50] <drcooded> realy
[02:50] <HrdwrBoB> however they are both ooooold
[02:51] <drcooded> how I Can make direct rendering: No to yes?
[02:51] <drcooded> I Know
[02:51] <RTN> g200 should be really good with 3d...
[02:51] <HrdwrBoB> you won't get 3d performance worth a damn
[02:51] <joha1> dcraven: okej..my english spelling is not so good,, but I only want to move one text file from my home map to some other map in the system. Thats is!!
[02:51] <drcooded> k
[02:51] <drcooded> but How I can make it work 3d?
[02:51] <HrdwrBoB> drcooded: why do you need direct rendering?
[02:51] <joha1> dcraven: Using Gnome gui!!
[02:51] <drcooded> direct readering is 3d?
[02:51] <drcooded> no?
[02:51] <drcooded> I run some games in wine
[02:51] <HrdwrBoB> yes, but why do you need it
[02:51] <HrdwrBoB> what games?
[02:52] <HrdwrBoB> a G200 is barely capable of playing quake2
[02:52] <RTN> tuxracer? :)
[02:52] <drcooded> and it slow , so SOme where I Read that I Need 3d
[02:52] <HrdwrBoB> which has a native version anyway
[02:52] <drcooded> direct rendering: No is for 3d?
[02:52] <mjr> drcooded, yes, it means there's no 3d acceleration
[02:52] <drcooded> I mean direct redering is for 3d?
[02:52] <elcu> drcooded: direct rendering: yes means you have 3d acceleration enabled
[02:52] <drcooded> k
[02:53] <beerockxs> dcraven: an analog stick
[02:53] <Cowlike> HrdwrBoB, native version or no, it's gonna run like shit unless he gets his 3d acceleration working
[02:53] <drcooded> g200 can have 3d acceleration?
[02:53] <HrdwrBoB> Cowlike: true
[02:53] <beerockxs> i modprobed joydev, but jstest /dev/js0 gives me "jstest: no such device"
[02:53] <RTN> i have experienced that you have to load some modules in correct order to get it working...
[02:53] <drcooded> I Mean?
[02:53] <HrdwrBoB> g200 should have 3D acceleration
[02:53] <drcooded> so I could'nt use it
[02:53] <RTN> for me it used to be intel-agp and radeon... but at the moment... newer kernel...
[02:53] <jfk303> hi I have a directory <dir> owned by root, but want user <jim> to be able to have full access to it?
[02:53] <drcooded> it all the time in no
[02:53] <RTN> it looks like drm and radeon...
[02:54] <beerockxs> using a CMI8738 card
[02:54] <RTN> no there is agpgart also...
[02:54] <HrdwrBoB> coulf be a problem with your motherboard
[02:54] <drcooded> HrdwrBoB : what I need to do for 3d acceltion to work?
[02:54] <beerockxs> and i did set the kernel module option to enable the joystick
[02:54] <dcraven> beerockxs: try "sudo modprobe analog". I think that will also load the gameport module too.
[02:54] <HrdwrBoB> drcooded: spend <US$50 and get an nvidia 5200? :)
[02:55] <RTN> drcooded, i would say: take a look at lspci
[02:55] <drcooded> U think it will be faster to use there 3d accelrtion?
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[02:55] <RTN> and what does the .... pci bridge....... processor to agp line say....
[02:55] <drcooded> but U said g200 can be 3d acclration on?
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> trying to use a G200 for 3d games, you might as well render them with a pencil in real time
[02:55] <schasi> Hehe
[02:56] <mjr> come now, it might run tuxracer ok ;)
[02:56] <HrdwrBoB> that said; it should work
[02:56] <drcooded> I see
[02:56] <drcooded> k
[02:56] <elcu> is the g200 older than the mx440?
[02:56] <HrdwrBoB> paste the output of dmesg, lsmod and your Xorg.0.log
[02:56] <drcooded> yes
[02:56] <RTN> elcu, correct.
[02:56] <HrdwrBoB> elcu: by a considerable margin
[02:56] <drcooded> k
[02:56] <Andril> hello all
[02:56] <elcu> ah, then he's buggered
[02:56] <elcu> :)
[02:56] <drcooded> I Will do shotdown
[02:56] <drcooded> and install it again
[02:56] <drcooded> see U soon
[02:56] <RTN> ouch... gotta run again...
[02:56] <HrdwrBoB> drcooded: installing again wont' do it
[02:57] <dcraven> joha1: Your English is fine. I think I understand what you want. The simplest way to do this is by pressing Alt-F2. This will show you the run dialog. Type "gksudo "nautilus --browser /home/username" where username is your own username. This will ask for your password, and give you write access everywhere.
[02:57] <beerockxs> dcraven: still get the "no such device" error
[02:57] <HrdwrBoB> oh well
[02:57] <HrdwrBoB> hrm
[02:57] <HrdwrBoB> come to think of it
[02:58] <dcraven> beerockxs: Hmm.. I've never actually used a joystick, but I thought that would work.
[02:58] <HrdwrBoB> he might well be using PCI cards
[02:58] <HrdwrBoB> in which case they'll never work
[02:58] <dcraven> beerockxs: Any clue in dmesg when you load that module or plug in the stick?
[02:58] <HrdwrBoB> I think he needs a video card made in this century
[02:59] <dcraven> PCI video doesn't work?
[03:00] <beerockxs> nothing about those modules in dmesg
[03:01] <dcraven> Doh?
[03:01] <Kisain> that might be it
[03:01] <Kisain> thnx
[03:01] <Kisain> i'll try it and be back
[03:12] <Is> i'm a newly converted linux user and i
[03:12] <Is> ve heard
[03:12] <Is> good things about ubuntu.
[03:12] <Quazion> i can tell you more very good things :)
[03:12] <Is> why is it the shiv?
[03:13] <Quazion> it works out of the box
[03:13] <Quazion> its free, no non free software installed
[03:13] <Quazion> its the best of the gnome and debian world
[03:13] <Is> i really need midi to work properly, is it guaranteed?
[03:13] <Quazion> it has 6 month release schedule
[03:13] <Quazion> Is, no idea... hehe
[03:14] <rudi-rudi> gnome inside ;-)
[03:14] <Quazion> its not really a multimedia distro since most multimedia things are non free
[03:14] <Quazion> so mp3 and mpeg,dvd are not included in the default install
[03:14] <Quazion> though for small business its a dream come tru...
[03:15] <rudi-rudi> ubuntu - when dreams come true.. ;-)
[03:15] <Quazion> just waiting for OpenOffice.org releases version 2.0
[03:15] <Is> i see
[03:17] <dcraven> "The shiv"?
[03:17] <Is> got a cell phone?
[03:20] <chet> if i installed win2k, after ubuntu, grub will be erased, is there a recovery method?
[03:21] <chet> sill me---   http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+grub+recovery&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[03:22] <joha1> dcraven: sorry I don't get it..I write  "gksudo nautilus" and get the login root popup. Then I get to a window called root..Am I on the right track?
[03:22] <Keizer> Morning guys
[03:23] <joha1> dcraven: What to do now?..
[03:23] <dcraven> joha1: Well you didn't write what I said to write.. But you are on the right track I guess.
[03:23] <abarbaccia> anybody using breezy and know how to get beagle working?
[03:24] <joha1> dcraven: It did't work for me or I diden't understand what you ment
[03:24] <dcraven> joha1: In the Run Dialog, type this: gksudo "nautilus --browser /home/$(whoami)"
[03:25] <dcraven> joha1: That will open the browser in your home directory, with root permissions I believe.
[03:26] <joha1> dcraven: Ok ..It is working:)
[03:26] <dcraven> joha1: Good. Be careful when you are in there.
[03:26] <karljp> my removable harddrive ha sbeen mounted with a umask of like 0700
[03:27] <karljp> anyway I can make it a bit more useful?
[03:27] <karljp> I can't serve webcontent of the removable harddrive as www-data can't read it
[03:27] <dcraven> abarbaccia: Does this work? --> http://www.beaglewiki.org/index.php/UbuntuInstall
[03:28] <sakaz> hi all
[03:28] <Bazzi-> karljp change the umask? ;)
[03:28] <dcraven> karljp: Is it in fstab?
[03:29] <sakaz> i just started Ubuntu this night
[03:29] <dcraven> Hey sakaz
[03:29] <joha1> dcraven: Yes ..but I don't want root acsess by defult I want Ubuntu to ask me to enter a root pasword if Im going to write in root maps..
[03:29] <sakaz> :)
[03:29] <karljp> bazzi: yeah, how do I do that though?
[03:29] <karljp> there's no fstab entry for it
[03:29] <karljp> it just gets done automagically
[03:29] <sakaz> do you have some good documentation for installing samba on Ubuntu
[03:30] <Bazzi-> mmh
[03:30] <Bazzi-> did I mention already that I hate the unix rights management? ;)
[03:30] <dcraven> joha1: Right click on the desktop, chose "Create Launcher" and create a desktop shortcut that way maybe? The "command" portion can be the same thing you typed into the Run Dialog. Then you'll have a shortcut on the desktop that does it for you.
[03:30] <angel12> how do i download the kernel headers/ source for hoary?
[03:31] <tritium_> angel12, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:31] <Bazzi-> angel12 apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r`
[03:31] <Bazzi-> arr
[03:31] <Bazzi-> :(
[03:32] <dcraven> sakaz: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[03:32] <guruff> hello; how i can pass my ip as a parameter ????????
[03:33] <dcraven> guruff: I'm confused already.
[03:33] <joha1> dcraven: okej..I will do so. Is this only on my system or a defult ubuntu thing?
[03:33] <guruff> dcraven; some_script -p XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX <- i need XXX to be my ip
[03:34] <dcraven> joha1: It's a Linux thing. Users don't have permissions to write to system directories (eg. /usr/lib). Just their home directories.
[03:34] <guruff> dcraven; any ideas?
[03:34] <dcraven> guruff: I think it depends on the script.
[03:35] <dcraven> guruff: Are you trying to find out what your IP address is?
[03:35] <dcraven> guruff: If so, you'll find it in "ifconfig".
[03:35] <guruff> dcraven; yeah know tha
[03:35] <MikeEnIke> Hey can anyone help me partition my hard drive for buntu using Patition Magic?
[03:35] <guruff> dcraven; i'm using no-ip dns
[03:36] <joha1> dcraven: But then I used fedora it asked me for root password like synaptic do in Ubuntu..
[03:36] <dcraven> guruff: I'm still not quite sure what you are asking then I guess.
[03:36] <guruff> dcraven; ok
[03:36] <guruff> dcraven; i need to exec: no-ip -i <ip>
[03:37] <dcraven> guruff: Okay.
[03:37] <guruff> dcraven; and wan't this to happen without me having to type it manually :)
[03:38] <bluesign> is there a way i can use evolution to access my gmail account [other than POP3] ?
[03:39] <dcraven> joha1: Root works a little differently in ubuntu than in Fedora I'm guessing. Ubuntu disables the root account by default. For more info, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:40] <dcraven> bluesign: gmail doesn't support IMAP if that's what you're asking.
[03:40] <joha1> dcraven: If you are moving one dokument from the home map to for example urs on your computor what hapens?
[03:40] <beerockxs> dcraven: I think i found the problem why the gameport doesn't work, the module ns558 won't load
[03:40] <bluesign> dcraven: is there a plugin or something to read webmail from evolution?
[03:40] <joha1> dcraven: don't you get a root log in window?
[03:41] <karljp> just use pop and leave the mail onthe server :)
[03:41] <dcraven> joha1: I've never tried it. Give it a shot and see what happens :)
[03:41] <karljp> you lose some of the imap love of flags and stuff
[03:41] <bluesign> karljp: yeah, i was thinging about labels and stars
[03:42] <tritium_> karljp, only downside is the messages deleted in evolution don't get deleted on gmail account
[03:42] <nanaem> hi, anyone know what's wrong? in XFCE i can't run the synaptic package manager, it just says i have the wrong password. but in gnome it works fine, and i know i have the right pass.
[03:42] <seraphiel> where can I get aclocal,autoheader and the like?
[03:43] <fragspaz> i am having trouble with my gfx card
[03:44] <karljp> if you use pop and leave messages on the server, you should be able to set up your mail client to delete messages on the server that you deleete locally
[03:44] <fragspaz> i cant do anything that uses OGL or it shuts off
[03:44] <fragspaz> this has only started happening since i installed the driver
[03:44] <dcraven> seraphiel: build-essential
[03:44] <dcraven> seraphiel: I think autotools is in there.
[03:44] <seraphiel> dcraven: is it a res?
[03:45] <fragspaz> ?
[03:45] <dcraven> seraphiel: a res?
[03:45] <joha1> dcraven: what happens?:)
[03:46] <AzMoo> Does anybody know why I wouldn't be able to receive messages through AIM using Konversation?
[03:46] <seraphiel> dcraven: do I put it in sources.list?
[03:46] <dcraven> seraphiel: apt-get install build-essential
[03:46] <dcraven> seraphiel: I'm not positive it's part of that, but I'd assume it is.
[03:46] <fragspaz> i am having trouble with my gfx card i cant do anything that uses OGL or it shuts off this has only started happening since i installed the driver
[03:47] <seraphiel> dcraven: it seems to be working :) thanks
[03:47] <dcraven> joha1: Write permissions error... Just as it should.
[03:47] <tritium_> seraphiel, build-essential has many tools you'll likely want for development, but not autotools
[03:47] <bluesign> does anyone know VS.NET replacement ? or is it working on WINE?
[03:48] <tritium_> apt-cache depends build-essential
[03:48] <dcraven> tritium_: Crud.
[03:48] <seraphiel> tritium, it`s the autotools I need.. want to build e17
[03:48] <tritium_> dcraven, no worries
[03:49] <dcraven> tritium_: There must be a metapackage for autotools somewhere.. I'm lookin'.
[03:49] <tritium_> seraphiel, there are autotools-dev, automake, autoconf packags
[03:49] <tritium_> packages
[03:49] <karljp> bluesign: vs.net replacement in what way?
[03:49] <karljp> a great big IDE?
[03:50] <dcraven> seraphiel: Installing automake will drag in autoconf et al.
[03:50] <bluesign> karljp: i wanna code c# with windows form designer :)
[03:50] <karljp> so use windows?
[03:50] <CarlK> apt-get install autoconf
[03:50] <bluesign> karljp: i am trying to use only one OS
[03:50] <karljp> soooo use windows?
[03:50] <dcraven> karljp: I don't think so. Windows forms isn't a popular thing in Linux I don't think.
[03:51] <karljp> if you are a competent, windows can be made reasonably nice.
[03:51] <dcraven> karljp: You're nasty.
[03:51] <seraphiel> dcraven: and then I`m good to go with e17?
[03:51] <karljp> people are using windows forms with mono,
[03:51] <bluesign> karljp: but i love ubuntu :)
[03:51] <CarlK> bluesign - check out http://dabodev.com
[03:51] <dcraven> seraphiel: I didn't say that :)... I'm sure e17 has many dependancies.
[03:51] <joha1> dcraven: aha! okej thank you very much for your time and help:)
[03:51] <karljp> but not the vs.net designer
[03:51] <dcraven> joha1: Anytime.
[03:52] <seraphiel> dcraven, I`ll give it a try ;)
[03:52] <CarlK> bluesign - find the "dabo demo on Ubuntu Live CD" page
[03:52] <EightRabi> after a fresh install of Hoary, xorg only offers 640x480 (as described in bug 5917).  Is there anything I can do to get a better resolution?
[03:52] <seraphiel> dcraven: missing libtoolize
[03:53] <CarlK> bluesign - it isn't winforms/C#, but it will help you write nice database apps that are cross platrom
[03:53] <dcraven> bluesign: Visual Studio works great in VMWare though, if that is an option.
[03:53] <gabriel> hi
[03:53] <gabriel> can I get some support?
[03:53] <jjesse> sure we can try and help you what up?
[03:53] <CarlK> gabriel - yes, you need to click some things
[03:54] <bluesign> thanks all
[03:54] <dcraven> seraphiel: I guess that's not included in the automake depends then eh?
[03:54] <gabriel> well
[03:54] <gabriel> i have some problems with hotplug
[03:54] <bluesign> dcraven: what is the performance of VMWare?
[03:54] <jjesse> depends on the ram correct?
[03:54] <seraphiel> dcraven: found it.. tracing deps atm
[03:54] <gabriel> i upgraded my system from warty
[03:55] <gabriel> and it doesnt boot with the latest kernel
[03:55] <dcraven> bluesign: Depends on your machine.. Lots of RAM is nice. I have 728 in this laptop and it ran quite well. I had to boost the ram to 728 specifically for VMWare to be satisfactory though.
[03:55] <gabriel> i rename hotplug script
[03:56] <gabriel> an it boot
[03:56] <bluesign> dcraven: hmm RAM is not a problem, i will give it a try
[03:56] <dcraven> bluesign: But that of course is satisfactory to *me*.. Adequate performance is subjective. It was usable before the extra ram.
[03:56] <nanaem> anyone know why the sysaptic package monitor won't accept the password in XFCE, but works fine in gnome?
[03:56] <dcraven> bluesign: You'll be happy with it then for sure.
[03:56] <gabriel> of course it isnt the solution
[03:57] <elcu> hello, anyone know of a program that can save realmedia streams for offline viewing?
[03:57] <EightRabi> I'm using a voodoo5 with a viewsonic A90 monitor.  All of it appears to have been detected properly, yet xorg only runs in 640x480.  How can I downgrade back to xfree86?
[03:57] <jupiterste> I have a IBM ThinkCentre which is freezing up consistently, Debian users are reporting the same kind of problems, and it was recommeded to change the "IO-APIC option (X86_UP_IOAPIC = n)" does anyone know where that setting is located?
[03:57] <bluesign> dcraven: can i find it on Synaptic?
[03:57] <elcu> i had a good one in windows, but haven't found an alternative in linux
[03:57] <dcraven> bluesign: No. VMWare costs money.
[03:57] <Aneres> scusate..qual  il canale ubuntu italiano?
[03:58] <bluesign> dcraven: hmm i see
[03:58] <Dark3Lite> hey  guys
[03:58] <elcu> Aneres: er, #ubuntu-it maybe
[03:58] <Dark3Lite> when I   sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:59] <Dark3Lite>  Package xmms has no installation candidate
[03:59] <gabriel> i try to install a fresh hoary but always get a kernel panic
[03:59] <tritium_> jupiterste, that's a kernel parameter.  You'd have to compile a new kernel, and change that value.
[03:59] <jjesse> what repositories do you have Dark3Lite
[03:59] <gabriel> then a think a have to deal with hotplug
[03:59] <jjesse> isn't xmms in multiverse or something like that
[04:00] <dcraven> Dark3Lite: Sounds as though your sources.list is b0rked.
[04:00] <Dark3Lite> lol
[04:00] <Dark3Lite> haha
[04:00] <Dark3Lite> so what can I do to correct it?
[04:00] <dcraven> jjesse: No it's in main.
[04:00] <jjesse> ah thanks for correcting me dcraven
[04:00] <dcraven> jjesse: hehe.. np
[04:00] <Dark3Lite> dcraven what can I do to correct it?
[04:01] <karljp> comment out most of them, and do apt-get update
[04:01] <dcraven> Dark3Lite: Hmmm.. It kinda depends on how it got messed up. Can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to www.pastebin.com and I'll have a look?
[04:01] <karljp> what have you got besides standard ubuntu ones?
[04:01] <Dark3Lite> aiight
[04:01] <Dark3Lite> cool
[04:01] <EightRabi> when using hoary, do I have to use x.org, or can I use the previous x-window-server?
[04:01] <Dark3Lite> dcraven
[04:02] <Dark3Lite> lol..
[04:02] <dcraven> There was a guy in here a couple of days ago with the same problem, I look at his sources.list on pastebin and he had every line commented.
[04:02] <Dark3Lite> all is commented..
[04:02] <Dark3Lite> lol
[04:02] <jupiterste> tritium_: is there an easy way to do that or is it complicated?
[04:02] <EightRabi> and, is there a one-line apt-get command I can use to "downgrade"?
[04:02] <Dark3Lite> exactly
[04:02] <dcraven> haha
[04:02] <Dark3Lite> just looked at that
[04:02] <Dark3Lite> lol
[04:02] <fragspaz> whats the location for my mounted floppy?
[04:02] <dcraven> Dark3Lite: Silly you.
[04:02] <Dark3Lite> adding some now..
[04:03] <tritium_> jupiterste, if you've never done it before, you may find it a bit complicated, but it's not too bad.
[04:03] <karljp> frag: /media/floppy probably
[04:03] <dcraven> fragspaz: typically it's in /media/floppy
[04:03] <fragspaz> thanks dcraven
[04:04] <karljp> (/me was first :P)
[04:04] <dcraven> fragspaz: No problem. Thanks karljp :)
[04:04] <gabriel> anyone have an idea?
[04:04] <Dark3Lite> shit
[04:04] <Dark3Lite> dc
[04:04] <karljp> shopping thyme for me *waves*
[04:04] <Dark3Lite> dcraven, uncommented all..and getting the same errors
[04:04] <dcraven> Dark3Lite: sudo apt-get update
[04:04] <Dark3Lite> yeah
[04:04] <Dark3Lite> just ran the command..
[04:04] <Dark3Lite> thanks..
[04:05] <Dark3Lite> everyday is a learning session
[04:05] <gabriel> yes i know
[04:05] <gabriel> i ve kill esound to listeninq music
[04:06] <dcraven> gabriel: I think if you can determine which module is causing problems, you can add it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist and it will not be loaded by hotplug at boot time.
[04:06] <guruff> dcraven; that's what i was trying to do myip=$( /sbin/ifconfig | grep -A1 ppp0 | grep 'inet addr' | cut -d ":" -f 2 | cut -d " " -f 1 )
[04:06] <guruff> :P
[04:06] <yarr> hi
[04:06] <gabriel> the problem is that i didn t get any errors
[04:06] <dcraven> guruff: There you go dude. I was gonna suggest parsing ifconfig's output :) Nice.
[04:07] <yarr> thought this channel would only allow registered nicks to speak... perhaps I was wrong and was being ignored=)
[04:07] <dcraven> yarr: I think anyone can speak in here.
[04:07] <gabriel> i spent a lot of time reading the logs
[04:08] <gabriel> and i couldnt find anything
[04:08] <yarr> dcraven: haha!  at least someone can hear me, thanks for the verification--I'll keep trying my question...
[04:08] <dcraven> gabriel: I think you've narrowed it down to some module that hotplug is loading though right?
[04:09] <gabriel> it freeza loading hotplug system
[04:09] <dcraven> yarr: I haven't seen your question yet.. Or at least noticed it.
[04:09] <gabriel> but not errors
[04:09] <dcraven> gabriel: I don't think I have enough knowledge of hotplug to be useful.
[04:10] <gabriel> yes but thanks
[04:10] <gabriel> sorry about my english
[04:10] <yarr> dcraven: fresh install of hoary, x.org won't allow me to pick a resolution beyond 640x480.  There was a bugzilla ticket opened for it, but no resolution.  Should I "downgrade" to xfree86?
[04:11] <tritium_> yarr, no, most likely should try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:11] <yarr> tritium: thanks I'll give it a go!
[04:12] <dcraven> yarr: Probably downgrading is not the answer. Typically I've seen similar problems when monitor specs are not detected properly.
[04:12] <gabriel> dcraven?
[04:12] <tritium_> yarr, if that fails to solve it, we'll need to look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:12] <gabriel> did you check your xorg,conf file?
[04:12] <dcraven> yarr: Try what tritium_  said, then you could try http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:13] <dcraven> gabriel: What am I checking my xorg.conf for?
[04:13] <gabriel> sorry it was for yar
[04:13] <gabriel> r
[04:13] <dcraven> Okay :)
[04:13] <gabriel> i cant do two thing at the same time
[04:15] <yarr> tritium: I'm looking up monitor sync values right now, never was asked for this stuff, chances are the monitor reported incorrect values during autodetection at install time--the log file reported invalid modeline errors
[04:15] <tritium_> yarr, right.   See the URL from dcraven too, okay?
[04:15] <dcraven> yarr: You are probably on the right track with that.
[04:15] <yarr> I will everyone, brb after a restart of X, thanks again for all your support!
[04:15] <gabriel> edit xorg.conf
[04:16] <AnguS> hi there! i just migrated my debian sarge server to ubuntu hoary, everything fine so far, dist-upgrade updated some packages... however there are a number of packages that are still debian, how can i upgrade those?
[04:16] <NixerX> Anyone use slapd?
[04:16] <yarr> gabriel: I did, I'm gonna double check the sync values for the monitor, thanks for your suggestion
[04:16] <AnguS> for example, sarge's apache2 is 2.0.54 whereas hoarys is 2.0.53, but i would like to get the hoary package installed
[04:16] <gabriel> yerterday i did it in my crux linux
[04:17] <gabriel> and it works
[04:17] <dcraven> AnguS: dist-upgrade does nothing more?
[04:18] <AnguS> dcraven nope
[04:18] <AnguS> is there a practical way to see, with dpkg or some other tool, if an installed package is from debian or from ubuntu?
[04:19] <dcraven> AnguS: I'm looking.. I can't remember how to see what is installed using dpkg..
[04:19] <nanomad> err..a question...wich are right permissions on /dev/dsp?
[04:20] <AnguS> i did a dpkg -l but i just see the versions, and not all ubuntu packages have the ubuntu suffix in the version so it's not of much use :P
[04:20] <gabriel> i not sure but ithink rx-rx-
[04:22] <tritium_> AnguS, dpkg -l.  Otherwise, apt-listpackages is a nice tool for that.
[04:22] <dcraven> AnguS: I'm not sure there would be a way then. I upgraded my school machine from sid to Hoary but wasn't concerned which versions of things were still being used.. As long as it works :)
[04:22] <gabriel> i my case
[04:22] <yarr> that did it everyone--the installer's choice of vertical sync was off by 30
[04:22] <gabriel> crw-rw----  1 root audio
[04:22] <gabriel> the sound works
[04:22] <tritium_> yarr, :)
[04:22] <yarr> I'm in love, once again ;-)
[04:22] <dcraven> yarr: Cool.
[04:23] <dcraven> heh
[04:23] <yarr> tritium_: sometimes you just know these things
[04:23] <gabriel> but nanomad
[04:23] <nanomad> yes?
[04:23] <tritium_> yarr, heh :)
[04:23] <rudi-rudi> gabriel, try sudo chmod a+rwx..
[04:23] <AnguS> dcraven as i'm running a server i'm concerned that all packages should be ubuntu and get upgraded when a security issue arises, right now my debian packages are kind of leftovers ehhe
[04:23] <gabriel> i have to kill esound
[04:23] <gabriel> lo listening
[04:23] <gabriel> music
[04:23] <dcraven> AnguS: Makes sense.
[04:23] <nanomad> i use kde
[04:24] <yarr> tritium_: your sister, Debi Ann, is also lovely
[04:24] <SlackShrike> where I find documentation on casper
[04:24] <SlackShrike> ?
[04:24] <gabriel> rudi-rudi
[04:24] <gabriel> the permisions are ok
[04:24] <gabriel> the problem is esound
[04:24] <tritium_> yarr, I'm glad you got it working
[04:25] <SlackShrike> where I find documentation on casper?
[04:25] <gabriel> it not the first time
[04:25] <yarr> tritium_: I'll double-check the wiki, too.  Maybe I missed something.
[04:25] <dcraven> SlackShrike: Depends on what casper is.
[04:25] <tritium_> yarr, have you restarted X?  Do you have higher resolutions now?
[04:26] <Mabus> Hi, I'm having some problems booting the Hoary LiveCD on a Acer TravelMate 250 - it seems to work fine all the way up to the point where it tries to start X... I presume I have to boot with a different vga= option or something - can anyone help me figure it out ?
[04:26] <rudi-rudi> gabriel, hm.. and /etc/esound ?
[04:26] <yarr> tritium_: yep, ran dpkg-reconfigure, but really only changed the vertical sync value
[04:26] <tritium_> yarr, ok
[04:26] <yarr> tritium_: restarted, good resolution now.
[04:26] <tritium_> good deal
[04:26] <gabriel> well
[04:26] <SlackShrike> dcraven: Casper is the package for the live-cd
[04:27] <gabriel> this not the first time i have problems with alsa and esound
[04:27] <Mabus> it won't be the last time either.
[04:27] <gabriel> y just kill esound for ever and the things works
[04:27] <tritium_> SlackShrike, Kamion just told you
[04:28] <Mabus> anyway, I tried that vga=771, but that didn't work ...
[04:28] <dcraven> SlackShrike: If you are trying to customize the CD, there is --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[04:28] <dcraven> Damn, I gotta split.. Later!
[04:29] <Mabus> maybe that vga option is for the textmode part of the boot process, and not the X setup ?
[04:31] <gabriel> Mabus, What message did you get?
[04:31] <SlackShrike> dcraven : I am like create a Live with my kernel and other programs
[04:32] <SlackShrike> dcraven : I am like create from debian-installer with casper
[04:32] <gabriel> i gointo to do the same some day
[04:33] <Raskall> hey, hey, hey.. a temperature of 44 degrees celsius. Not bad. Getting the hang of power management now. it's only a week since I couldn't get the temp below 70.
[04:33] <Mabus> gabriel: I'll boot again to give you the exact message, but it was the standard "X could not start / do you want to see the error output yes/no" message.
[04:34] <gabriel> check the options
[04:34] <Mabus> which ones ?
[04:34] <gabriel> with f2 f3 f4 f5
[04:35] <Mabus> yes, I've looked through them
[04:35] <Consumer> hi guys, I didn't really have the time to play with iptables so I put firestarter on my box
[04:35] <Consumer> I did iptables -L to see what was going on
[04:35] <Consumer> and got this huge list
[04:35] <Mabus> I tried using vga=771 debian-installer/framebuffer=false noacpi nolapic
[04:35] <Consumer> one of which was:
[04:35] <Consumer> Chain NR (1 references)
[04:35] <Mabus> but got the same error
[04:35] <Consumer> with about 200 items
[04:35] <Turms> i've downloaded hoary, is it possible to use the selection of packages i have from sarge (dpkg --get-selection > select0305
[04:36] <gabriel> what is your video card?
[04:36] <JaZy84> hey can someone help me use makefile
[04:36] <Mabus> I'll have to check the acer website, 2sec.
[04:38] <Mabus> (at least it would take 2sec if the acer homepage wasn't dead-slow)
[04:38] <tritium_> JaZy84, you should install make-doc, and then read the docs with the help browser
[04:38] <JaZy84> alright thans
[04:38] <tritium_> It's a good read, well worth it.
[04:38] <Paralla1> I have an error with my kernel
[04:38] <tritium_> JaZy84, are you trying to use or create a Makefile?
[04:39] <JaZy84> well i have a program i wrote (for school) in c++ that has 2 c++ files and a *.h file. i want to use make so i can just compile the set.
[04:39] <Paralla1> I compile the 2.6.11.8 with no errors, but I reboot and says: Kernel Panic unable to mount root partition, or something like that at the very begginig
[04:40] <Mabus> gabriel: SIS VGA
[04:40] <Turms> Mabus lspci doesn't work?
[04:40] <AnguS> Paralla1 check if you compiled the correct driver for your hard disk controller, and if you compiled the correct file system support
[04:40] <Fish-Face> It appears that my Networking settings (default Gateway, active devices) are not saved on reboot
[04:40] <Mabus> Turms: my problem is that I can't boot the livecd, so no :)
[04:41] <Fish-Face> Anyone know what might cause this?
[04:42] <Mabus> what is the username/password on the hoary livecd btw ?
[04:42] <Mabus> then I could do lspci
[04:42] <Paralla1> Angus: my steps where: cp /boot/config-2.6.10-5-k7 /usr/src/linux , make oldconfig, make menuconfig to activate the ntfs write support, sudo make, sudo make modules_install install
[04:43] <gabriel> linux acpi=off vga=791
[04:43] <Paralla1> so it should be working
[04:44] <AnguS> Paralla1 odd :(
[04:44] <gabriel> try this option
[04:44] <AnguS> what is the best package manager (non-graphical) to use with ubuntu?
[04:44] <tritium_> AnguS, I prefer aptitude
[04:45] <sigpc> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop (pentium 4 2.8ghz) and the default kernel that it used was the .i386? shouldn't it be using the i686 ?
[04:45] <Turms> saik0:  dselect?
[04:45] <tritium_> sigpc, 386 is installed by default.  You certainly can upgrade to linux-686, though.
[04:45] <AnguS> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
[04:45] <AnguS>   aptitude
[04:45] <AnguS> uh, what happened?
[04:45] <sigpc> tritium: gracias
[04:46] <tritium_> sigpc, de nada ;)
[04:47] <JaZy84> tritium
[04:47] <wnight> I'd like to install a gqview 2.0 (from breezy, universe) on a hoary system, how can I do this without installing libc updates, a new C compiler, etc?
[04:47] <Turms> ubuntu doesn' have dselect? shame!t
[04:47] <JaZy84> you think you could help out. i read the doc. but i'm still getting one little error
[04:47] <sigpc> yes it does Turms
[04:47] <sigpc> Debian `dselect' package handling frontend.
[04:48] <sigpc> shame you!
[04:48] <sigpc> :)
[04:50] <Turms> sigpc synaptic then!
[04:50] <sdog> any dedicated linuxppc ubuntu #'s around btw ?
[04:50] <crystal_> I am new to linux (2 days) and I am having difficulty geting music files to work, sound works as well as cds, but movies are mute and mp3s will not play. Will somebody help me?
[04:51] <Paralla1> install xmms and xine
[04:51] <PlanarPlatypus> crystal_, it is probably a codec problem, I think there was something on the forums about it
[04:51] <tritium_> crystal_, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:52] <crystal_> thank you
[04:53] <Mabus> gabriel: same issue
[04:53] <kosmic_youth> do you know if there is a problem with the Launchpad ? rosetta ?
[04:53] <Mabus> gabriel: I'm at the tty prompt now, "ubuntu login:"
[04:53] <Mabus> so if you know the username/pass I can log in and provide some log details maybe
[04:54] <lamont> gabriel: and?
[04:55] <i_m_meen> hello
[04:55] <Mabus> "I cannot start the X server (your graphical interface). It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?" is the dialog I get.
[04:56] <Paralla1> Does anyone recompile a kernel in ubuntu???
[04:56] <i_m_meen> just wondering, any news about a xfce ubuntu? or just gossip?
[04:56] <i_m_meen> recompile a kernel?
[04:57] <i_m_meen> why not? :P
[04:57] <PlanarPlatypus> Paralla1, sometimes but I have not needed to yet
[04:57] <tritium_> i_m_meen, it's available to install
[04:57] <Paralla1> can you help me please
[04:57] <PlanarPlatypus> Paralla1, possibly
[04:57] <PlanarPlatypus> depends on the problem
[04:57] <lamont> gabriel: what problem are you seeing?
[04:57] <lamont> "doesn't boot" doesn't really tell me anything
[04:57] <Paralla1> I compile it but when I reboot it gives me a kernel panic cannot mount root partition
[04:57] <i_m_meen> @tritium: no, no. no..i'm running a xfce ubuntu, i meant boot cd
[04:58] <PlanarPlatypus> Paralla1, what is your boot drive connected to?  IDE or SATA?
[04:58] <Paralla1> the / is IDE
[04:58] <Mabus> lamont: gabriel is helping me with a boot problem, I haven't seen him asking one.. but maybe I just missed it.
[04:58] <Fackamato> Why isn't there a /proc/config.gz in ubuntu kernels?
[04:58] <lamont> Paralla1: and how vanilla is your install?
[04:58] <lexhider> crystal: for movies I would recommend the totem-xine package, it's in universe.
[04:58] <Paralla1> what ??
[04:58] <lamont> Mabus: he showed up in #ubuntu-kernel, which is the wrong place for support, and I'm trying to drag himback to the right channel
[04:58] <Paralla1> lamont : what?
[04:59] <Mabus> lamont: ah, right.
[04:59] <mrimbert> Fackamato, the kernel configs are in /boot
[04:59] <Stuttergart2> Can someone point me to the disk space requirements for a fresh Warty install?
[04:59] <lamont> Paralla1: did you just tell it to use the whole disk, or did you customize the partitions?
[04:59] <jacquesmerde> phwoar, hoary is pretty sweet. far less suckage than warty
[04:59] <Paralla1> I downloaded the 2.6.11.8
[04:59] <gabriel> it freeze in hotplug system , la
[04:59] <Stuttergart2> I didn't see it in the Wiki.
[04:59] <Fackamato> mrimbert: sorry, doh
[04:59] <Stuttergart2> Err
[04:59] <lamont> Paralla1: 2.6.11 is known to be trash
[04:59] <Stuttergart2> for Hoary I mean.
[04:59] <lamont> don't use it
[04:59] <lexhider> Parallal: are you sure grub setup is ok, and are you sure you have the necessary fs compiled into kernel?
[04:59] <PlanarPlatypus> Paralla1, have you checked things like your IDE driver being a module?
[04:59] <gabriel> yes , i did it
[04:59] <gabriel> but i dont have network, sound
[04:59] <Paralla1> yep
[05:00] <jacquesmerde> "ubuntu: sarge's waiting room"
[05:00] <Paralla1> ext2 ext3 , nvidia chipset
[05:00] <Fackamato> Ubuntu's 2.6.11 doesn't work very well over here - doesn't even boot. It has issues with the ICH5 S-ATA controller or something. (ready,drive seek error etc).
[05:00] <Fackamato> Anyone having similar issues=
[05:00] <lamont> Fackamato: 2.6.11 is known to be broken and unusable.  don't do that
[05:00] <lamont> 2.6.12rc3 will get uploaded sometime soonish
[05:00] <gabriel> lamont, it works with kernel 2.6.8
[05:00] <Paralla1> mmmmm
[05:00] <PlanarPlatypus> Fackamato, I had similar issues, my solution was to run 2.6.10
[05:00] <lamont> gabriel: this is 2.6.10-5-34 or so?
[05:01] <gabriel> latest ubuntu kernel
[05:01] <lamont> gabriel: hoary?
[05:01] <lexhider> stuttergant2: they wouldn' have changet much from warty.
[05:01] <Paralla1> I just trying to learn how to do it
[05:01] <gabriel> and the same happens with k7s kernel
[05:01] <gabriel> yes
[05:01] <lexhider> s/changet/changed
[05:02] <Fackamato> lamont: aha, OK.
[05:02] <Fackamato> PlanarPlatypus: Yup, I'm using 2.6.10 now.
[05:02] <Fackamato> No issues so far.
[05:02] <gabriel> i ty k7 and i386 Hoarys kernel
[05:02] <lexhider> stuttergart2: for warty: 1.8G for standard Ubuntu desktop system, that info is from the official warty CD cover.
[05:03] <gabriel> try
[05:03] <Stuttergart2> lexhider: Do you have a URL for the reqs for Hoary?
[05:03] <lamont> gabriel: this was after dist-upgrading from warty to hoary?
[05:03] <gabriel> yes
[05:04] <lexhider> stuttergart2: I'll see if I can find them, but I'd be surprised if they were all that different from Warty to Hoary.
[05:05] <Mabus> gabriel: I have the same issue with acpi=off and vga=791.
[05:05] <gabriel> well
[05:05] <lamont> gnat_x: is good place
[05:05] <gabriel> it happens to me in Knoppix
[05:05] <lamont> although the general answer is: download the livecd and play with it
[05:05] <gabriel> it has and option failsafe
[05:06] <gnat_x> cool
[05:06] <Mabus> gabriel: aha, so I should try Knoppix, maybe ?
[05:06] <gabriel> did you try?
[05:06] <Mabus> not yet
[05:07] <Mabus> only ubuntu
[05:07] <gabriel> well for alive cds
[05:07] <gabriel> Knoppix is good
[05:07] <JoshRA> Hello can a nfts drive be loaded at all in ubuntu
[05:07] <Mabus> yes
[05:07] <Echylo> what is a good & easy configurable ftp server?
[05:07] <AnguS> vsftpd
[05:07] <lamont> JoshRA: read only, but yes
[05:07] <sig> JoshRA: http://ubuntuguide.org has a good howto
[05:07] <Mabus> I will try Knoppix then :/
[05:07] <Mabus> lamont: maybe you're able to take a look at my problem first ?
[05:08] <lamont> Mabus: if it works with Knoppix but not hoary, would be interested in knowing that...
[05:08] <Echylo> AnguS, is it easy to configure, or what is the method ?
[05:08] <Mabus> I haven't tried Knoppix yes.
[05:08] <Mabus> *yet
[05:08] <gnat_x> i have two big questions: 1. how different are ubuntu's kernels, X install, and hardware support from debian sarge (which i'm currently running, and which locks up, and i can't find why)?
[05:08] <lamont> Mabus: I'm actually supposed to be somewhere else as of about an hour ago... :-(
[05:08] <Mabus> lamont: :S
[05:08] <gabriel> Mabus Is your laptop an old one?
[05:08] <Mabus> yes, maybe 1-2 years.
[05:09] <Mabus> "old"
[05:09] <JoshRA> thanks lamont i knew nfts can only be ro but in like fedora you can not do anythingw ith out editing configs and sig i am wating for that to load thanks
[05:09] <gabriel> no so old
[05:09] <Mabus> no
[05:09] <lamont> gnat_x: ubuntu is a 2.6.10 kernel, xorg 6.8.2, and more 3rd party drivers, I believe
[05:09] <gnat_x> question two is, how different are the apt repositoriries from those of sarge as far as breadth and age?
[05:09] <Turms> proftp
[05:09] <JoshRA> sig: what is the flag foir fstab just ntfs?
[05:10] <Mabus> lamont: OK, so it is a Acer Travelmate 270 with a SIS VGA card, and the boot goes fine until it tries to start the X server - then I'm thrown back to tty. I've tried vga=771 and vga=791.
[05:10] <lexxan> ?? mountntfs
[05:10] <Paralla1> JoshRa: tes
[05:10] <[uhelp] > mountntfs: To learn about mounting windows partitions (ntfs, fat) see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[05:10] <Echylo> Turms, I just installed proftp, not that fun to configure :|
[05:10] <lamont> gnat_x: upstream version freeze hits about 3 months before release.  so hoary is (generally) sid as of december 28, 2004
[05:10] <Mabus> If you can't think of anything I should try immediately, I'll try Knoppix.
[05:10] <lamont> gnat_x: with xorg, etc.
[05:10] <JoshRA> lexxan: it is Not loading
[05:10] <lamont> and gnome 2.10.1, of course
[05:10] <lexxan> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/here ?
[05:10] <lamont> Mabus: that's an "xorg problem"
[05:11] <Mabus> it's my problem as well :/
[05:11] <gnat_x> oh and i guess i have a third... is the installer flexible enough to not want to nuke my /home and /work partitions?
[05:11] <Mabus> lamont: is there a solution to it ?
[05:11] <lamont> gnat_x: breezy is current sid + ubuntu changes, modulo the fact that not all the merges have been finished yet, etc.
[05:12] <lamont> Mabus: dunno - first place to look would be the X log, then the output of the things that X uses for autodetection
[05:12] <wnight> How can I set ubuntu to not boot X by default?
[05:12] <Mabus> yes, but I can't log in to review the log
[05:12] <Mabus> since it's a livecd I don't know the user/pass
[05:12] <gabriel> more /var/log
[05:12] <gabriel> let me see
[05:12] <lamont> gnat_x: you have to hit it over the head - the default install is "full disk", but you can override that to do your own partitioning
[05:13] <lamont> gnat_x: the installer folks do that all the time (it's basically debian-installer with the question count brought down to near zero)
[05:13] <gabriel> Xorg.0.log
[05:13] <Mabus> yes, but I have to log in first
[05:13] <gnat_x> lamont: *nod*
[05:13] <Mabus> what is the user/pass for the livecd ?
[05:13] <lexhider> Stuttergart2: I can't find that info either, it really should be in the release notes.
[05:13] <lamont> Mabus: no unlocked account on the livecd
[05:13] <Mabus> so I can't log in from tty
[05:13] <Mabus> ?
[05:13] <lamont> it should just come up in a tty that's logged in already
[05:14] <Mabus> it doesn't
[05:14] <lamont> that's a casper bug
[05:14] <Mabus> ..
[05:14] <Mabus> so then I can't review the log either
[05:15] <CheeseBall> does anyone know of a good web design progarm like dreamweaver for linux
[05:15] <Mabus> NVU
[05:15] <gabriel> try knoppix the father of alive CDs
[05:15] <lamont> Mabus: I'd have to play with it some to come up with a good way to crowbar that open...
[05:15] <Rubin> CheeseBall: quanta
[05:15] <Mabus> lamont: OK, well I'll try knoppix then.
[05:15] <icebalm> the father of alive CDs
[05:15] <wnight> Hey, X isn't working well for me at boot, how do I boot to console mode by default?
[05:15] <icebalm> that statement conjurs imagry I would rather not have
[05:16] <jacquesmerde> would be a nightmare to try and get my mum's crappy small apps running on wine on ubuntu?
[05:16] <Mabus> gabriel, lamont, thanks for the help
[05:16] <Rubin> jacquesmerde: there is a compatability guide. the older the app the better
[05:16] <Mabus> I'll be back some time to say how it went with Knoppix
[05:16] <lamont> Mabus: please
[05:16] <gabriel> wine its a nigthmare
[05:16] <CheeseBall> thanks Rubin
[05:16] <lamont> Mabus: and sorry I couldn't immediately help more
[05:16] <Mabus> lamont: hm ?
[05:17] <wnight> Anyone? Is there a runlevel that doesn't start X?
[05:17] <lamont> Mabus: please let us know how it goes.
[05:17] <Mabus> ah
[05:17] <sig> anyone know how to change xchat colors back to normal ?
[05:17] <Mabus> lamont: yes np, thanks again
[05:17] <icebalm> jacquesmerde: never bank on emulation
[05:17] <sig> the default colors suck on this 2.4.1 build
[05:17] <lamont> Mabus: likewise, you could follow the wiki steps for editing the livecd to add a user...
[05:17] <Rubin> wnight: remove /etc/init.d/gdm
[05:17] <Mabus> yes
[05:17] <Mabus> but you know, I can't be bothered.
[05:17] <whiteknight> jacquesmerde, what apps are you hoping to run?
[05:17] <jacquesmerde> icebalm: how hard/trivial is it to set up wine itself on ubuntu?
[05:17] <lamont> Mabus: understood
[05:17] <icebalm> jacquesmerde: not hard
[05:17] <lexxan> jacquesmerde, apt-get install wine
[05:18] <Rubin> wnight: or rather, unlink /etc/rc2.d/gdm
[05:18] <icebalm> lexxan: you beat me to it
[05:18] <wnight> Rubin: I'm looking for a change like booting into runlevel 3 versus 5 in redhat.
[05:18] <whiteknight> jacquesmerde, the configuration is the hardest part
[05:18] <jacquesmerde> whiteknight: the only app at the moment is bridge baron
[05:18] <jacquesmerde> which repository is wine in?
[05:18] <whiteknight> jacquesmerde, :) as long as it isn't the latest directx game you should be okay
[05:18] <Rubin> wnight: if ubuntu is the same as debian, runlevel 2 is default and 3-5 are yours to setup as you wish (using /etc/rcx.d/ links)
[05:18] <jacquesmerde> actually, which repository is gftp in?
[05:19] <wnight> Rubin, okay, thanks!
[05:19] <lexxan> universe.
[05:19] <jacquesmerde> whiteknight: configuration of the app in wine or wine itself?
[05:19] <gabriel> you need wine , one configuration tool
[05:19] <whiteknight> jacquesmerde, wine itself, once its done, it works pretty well
[05:19] <gabriel> i dont remember the name
[05:20] <whiteknight> jacquesmerde, its been a couple of years since i've used it, now run ppc ubuntu, but then it was possible
[05:20] <jacquesmerde> what are the variable in a wine config that have to be determined on an individual basis?
[05:20] <gabriel> it works for office, internet explorer
[05:20] <whiteknight> jacquesmerde, if i remember rightly there is a really useful gui somewhere
[05:20] <jacquesmerde> whiteknight: its just that if i dont get this win game running on my mum's computer she's gonna slap me silly for deleting windows for her
[05:20] <whiteknight> jacquesmerde, i'll have a look
[05:20] <gabriel> yes
[05:21] <gabriel> chek in winehq
[05:21] <Rubin> jacquesmerde: a game like minesweeper? or a game like doom?
[05:21] <Solarin> Hi folks, wonder if someone could help me. I'm trying to setup my snd-es18xx soundcard on my fresh install of Hoary. Previously was a debian user and set it up via /etc/modutils/alsa-base and running update-modules since the card doesn't support auto detection. Doesn't appear to work this time though, any ideas?
[05:21] <gabriel> i remember
[05:22] <gabriel> check in franks corner
[05:22] <JoshRA> do you have to add something to beable to play mp3's in ubuntu
[05:22] <resiak> ++ubuntu_user_count /* Hoary has fixed sound for someone who wasn't using Warty because ALSA didn't like his chip.
[05:22] <Solarin> Yup, grab the g-streamer mp3 plugin, worked for me :-)
[05:23] <whiteknight> jacquesmerde, i'd definitly go for it, the default should suffice, if not come back here or look here: http://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wine-user/config-file
[05:23] <gabriel> or by crossoveroffice
[05:23] <jacquesmerde> Rubin: a game like bridge baron, from looking at its gui, i doubt its using any modern, highpowered stuff. i think its the kind of game that runs on win95, and can be copied from cd rather than installing
[05:24] <gabriel> for games check cedega
[05:24] <jacquesmerde> cedega?
[05:24] <Solarin> Darn, no clue on how to get Ubuntu to auto modprobe on startup?
[05:24] <gabriel> the version of wine for games
[05:24] <orospakr> Solarin, /etc/modules
[05:25] <Solarin> orospakr -> I need to specify all the parameters for the soundcard, can I do that in there?
[05:25] <jacquesmerde> Solarin: modprobe what???
[05:25] <Solarin> Alsa module, snd-es18xx
[05:26] <Anubis> how to remove duplicate menu entries?
[05:26] <gabriel> check /etc/modprobe.conf
[05:26] <orospakr> Solarin, er, I dunno. check the manpage. prolly man modules or some such.
[05:27] <Solarin> Gabriel: Still supported in Hoary? New to it, got the impression they'd killed that, update-modules doesn't generate the modprobe.conf for me.
[05:28] <gabriel> sorry in ubuntu is /modules.conf
[05:28] <chx_> hi. anyone using pymusique?
[05:28] <gabriel> the old way
[05:28] <jacquesmerde> you can do a man modules.conf, that should tell you how to pass paramaters on startup
[05:28] <Solarin> Ok, thanks. I'll let you know if it works ;-)
[05:29] <n00d> aanyone connections here freeze after a while ?
[05:29] <Solarin> Argh, no man page for modules.conf
[05:29] <jacquesmerde> gabriel: i found that cedega thing. i went to browse games, and found the bridge baron page, but it doesnt say whether or not its supported (it looks like it isnt, but is the fact that the page is there at all suggest it is?)
[05:29] <jacquesmerde> Solarin: sorry, there is on this machine (admittedly, its not running ubuntu at the mo')
[05:29] <whiteknight> jacquesmerde, give it ago is what i recommend, if it works on win95 it'll work with wine
[05:30] <jacquesmerde> whiteknight: it definitely works with win98
[05:30] <Solarin> Jac: Yah, had it working fine in Debian. Ubuntu doesn't seem to have any obvious alternative though
[05:30] <Solarin> Man for update-modules states that it's depreciated and not supported.
[05:30] <Zen> hlo all... i have a tar.bz2 file and i was just wondering about the command to unpack it is? i know its tar something but i cant remember.
[05:30] <gabriel> i cant support in games
[05:30] <whiteknight> go for it :)
[05:30] <jacquesmerde> whiteknight: does wine support windows installation wizards?
[05:31] <gabriel> yes
[05:31] <jeroen_> yes
[05:31] <josh42> How can I make all 5.1 speakers active in hoary?
[05:31] <jacquesmerde> Solarin: if man modprobe.conf is on my computer, it must be online as well
[05:31] <wnight> I'm trying to install GQview 2 on Hoary, it's trying to install all of breezy as well.. Please help.
[05:31] <gabriel> Solarin what problem have with your sound?
[05:31] <chx_> so, anyone using pymusique or itunes with crossover ?
[05:31] <Zen> anybody help?
[05:32] <Solarin> Gabriel: I can get sound, but only by executing a long modprobe command
[05:32] <thully> chx_ : i've used both
[05:32] <dcraven> Zen: tar xvjf file.tar.bz2
[05:32] <thully> pymusique seems to work best, once you get it set up, but there is the license issues...
[05:33] <dcraven> Zen: For tar.gz it's "tar xvzf filename.tar.gz
[05:34] <n00d> my connection freeze after a while... does anyone have a clue about it ?
[05:34] <dcraven> Zen: swap the j for a z.
[05:34] <wnight> How do I get just one package from Breezy/Universe without libc and everything else?
[05:34] <jacquesmerde> gabriel: so how do i find out if something in the cedega database WORKS with cedega?
[05:34] <chx_> wnight: source it
[05:34] <wnight> chx_: I need to do a source install and compile it?
[05:35] <Kisain> i have a question
[05:35] <gabriel> I dont now i only read about it working with wine
[05:35] <i_m_meen> where can i find wine? i have main, uni, multi and i still can't find it :(
[05:35] <i_m_meen> is it gone from the repository?
[05:35] <chx_> wnight: yes. according to apt howto, that's one of the main usages of source
[05:35] <chx_> apt-get source , that
[05:35] <wnight> chx_: When I ran the liveCD I added a breezy/universe source and it grabbed just the one package. Running the installed version it gives different results.
[05:35] <dcraven> wnight: Packages are compiled using the libraries that they depend on. If those libraries are of a higher version than what you have, you need those too. That's what depends are for.
[05:36] <Kisain> can someone help me with a dual boot problem?
[05:36] <wnight> dcraven: Can I install two versions of libc side by side?
[05:36] <dcraven> wnight: I doubt that's a good idea.
[05:36] <gabriel> i alwas have problems with alsa
[05:36] <wnight> Kisain: Just ask, otherwise nobody knows. We're all willing to try.
[05:37] <Kisain> ok i have 2 hardrive one has ubuntu on it and the other on the secondary ide has win sucxp
[05:37] <Solarin> Ah, I have the solution. update-modules is disabled by default. You need the 'modutils' package to make it active. Great :-D
[05:37] <Kisain> ubuntu sees the win install and offers it as a boot option but the computer just hangs it dosen't freeze just hangs
[05:38] <Kisain> i tryed update-grub but it diden't work any ideas?
[05:38] <Kisain> update-grub did work but with no results i should say
[05:38] <josh42> Kisain; You had XP on first? Did you change the drives around the get ubuntu on? (change from master/slave, etc)
[05:38] <jacquesmerde> where's a good how-to for installing games under wine? (i'm assuming the itnernet somewhere....i wish i was a better googler...)
[05:38] <Kisain> yes when i set xp up it was the only drive in the system
[05:39] <gabriel> i ve modutils
[05:39] <Kisain> then i moved it to the secondary ide channel and kept it as primary drive with the cd-rom as slave
[05:39] <gabriel> by default
[05:39] <josh42> Kisain; winxp hates you now; that's why
[05:39] <Kisain> oh i know that
[05:39] <dcraven> Kisain: Something tells me XP doesn't like being secondary.
[05:40] <josh42> try moving the drive back to where it was, and taking the second out
[05:40] <Kisain> i knew that the moment i said ubuntu rocks! lol
[05:40] <Kisain> well it won't work as primary ide
[05:40] <Kisain> slave
[05:40] <wnight> Kisain: Moving it would change the drive identifier, did you move it after setting up ubuntu?
[05:40] <Kisain> ok heres the full version
[05:40] <josh42> Kisain; WinXP /hates/ being moved.. plus, it's bootloader does some funky things; if you touch it with grub/lilo, it loses some abilities
[05:40] <Kisain> i had it dual booting with xp on a diffrent hd
[05:41] <Kisain> that hd crashed
[05:41] <Kisain> so i started over again
[05:41] <dcraven> Kisain: "fdisk -l" will tell you the device it's on based on the filesystem type. Make sure your /boot/grub/menu.lst agrees with that device.
[05:41] <Kisain> i don't think grub understands that
[05:41] <jacquesmerde> if milli vanilli fell in the woods, would somebody else make a sound?
[05:41] <Kisain> how would i go about doing that? the lasttime i just ran the update grub command
[05:42] <josh42> winxp refers to itself like: drive(0), partition(1) - if you move that to drive(1), partition(1); xp's own bootloader loses the os
[05:42] <unperson> I upgraded to Hoary recently using apt-get.  Things seem to be working pretty well, except that since the upgrade I can't seem to play music.  If I try to play mp3s with XMMS or Beep they just freeze (and have to be killed using 'kill').  CD player also won't play.
[05:42] <tony> who knows kpackage?
[05:42] <unperson> Any ideas what's going on?
[05:42] <unperson> Or at least clues as to how I determine what's going on?
[05:43] <Kisain> would it be safe to set up xp on the secondary ide with ubuntu still on the primary?
[05:43] <Xappe> unperson: have you tried to change the sound output?
[05:43] <esko> its esound?
[05:43] <Seveas> unperson, ubunto hoary uses a different sound system than ubuntu warty
[05:43] <unperson> I didn't see any obvious errors on boot.  I get an error that pciehp module doesn't load, but I read that's for PCI extreme, which I don't have anyway.
[05:43] <Kisain> cause the last time i set up xp i pulled the grub drive just to be safe
[05:43] <josh42> Kisain; as long as you set up XP first, and then left the drives as they are - yes
[05:43] <Seveas> unperson, errors regarping pciehp/shpchp/hw_random can be safely ignored
[05:44] <Kisain> would i have to re-do ubuntu?
[05:44] <josh42> No
[05:44] <tractor> good morning Ubuntu!
[05:44] <Seveas> tractor, it's evening :)
[05:44] <Kisain> no it's noone
[05:44] <unperson> Seveas:  Oh?  What changed about the sound?  Are there config changes I should make?
[05:44] <Kisain> lol
[05:44] <tractor> good evening you eveningers
[05:44] <FunnyLookinHat> Anyone here installed the DCGUI-QT package?
[05:44] <unperson> Xappe:  No, I haven't.  It's a good idea.
[05:44] <josh42> BUT
[05:44] <josh42> you would lose the bootloader for it (cause you put it in the MBR, and xp will overwrite it)
[05:44] <Kisain> so i just setup xp with the way the drives are and my problem should be solved?
[05:44] <tony> i've got a Authentication failure
[05:45] <unperson> Xappe:  I guess I don't know what I should try, but I'll mess with it.
[05:45] <esko> i got problem, how i can look avi movies
[05:45] <lexxan> esko, w32codecs
[05:45] <lexxan> ** codec
[05:45] <[uhelp] > Found 2 matches. Sorted: manualcodec, restricted. (0.027s)
[05:45] <tractor> someone say ubuntu
[05:45] <Seveas> unperson, i do not know about the details, but hoary uses esd
[05:45] <majorb> i cant find the w32 codecs
[05:45] <lexxan> ?? restricted
[05:45] <josh42> Kisain; Make sure you make a linux floppy bootloader first to fix lilo after
[05:45] <[uhelp] > restricted: To find out more about java, dvd playing, codecs etc. see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:45] <lexxan> Check that site..
[05:45] <Kisain> ok how do i make that floppy?
[05:45] <lexxan> or just add the marillat repo
[05:45] <lexxan> ?? marillat
[05:46] <[uhelp] > marillat[x] : No defenition found for word.
[05:46] <lexxan> ** marillat
[05:46] <[uhelp] > Found 1 matches. Sorted: marillathoary. (0.002s)
[05:46] <lexxan> ** marillathoary
[05:46] <Kisain> so if it screws up i don't loose the most awsome os ever
[05:46] <Xappe> FunnyLookinHat: the DCGUI-QT in the repos are really old (think it's even older than the name change to valknut). try to compile it yourself, you won't regret it
[05:46] <[uhelp] > Found 1 matches. Sorted: marillathoary. (0.001s)
[05:46] <lexxan> ?? marillathoary
[05:46] <[uhelp] > marillathoary: To quickly add the marillat repository enter this in console - echo deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list - Now type sudo apt-get update
[05:46] <tractor> Knock. Knock.
[05:46] <n00d> my connection freeze after a while... does anyone have a clue about it ?
[05:46] <Seveas> n00d, no
[05:46] <The_Feet> anyone able to help with a question regarding nvidia drivers for ubunu?
[05:46] <Seveas> n00d, maybe you can give some detail...
[05:47] <Seveas> The_Feet, just ask...
[05:47] <Kisain> can you tell me how to make and use that floppy?
[05:47] <bretzel> Hi there again! GrumpyGroundhog: what is that in term of "developers" packages system ? only for debian-ubuntu developers ?
[05:47] <Seveas> bretzel, it will be a rolling unstable
[05:47] <n00d> Seveas: well, i connect using ADSL and a 3COM homeconnect modem... and then authenticate through web page my login... i was updanting my system and then i couldnt navigate anymore
[05:48] <FunnyLookinHat> at least he's enthusiastic :)
[05:48] <The_Feet> well, i can use the tutorial at ubuntuguide.org but when i do that, it seems it wants to use an 1386 kernel instead of the k7 one, i have an AMD xp2000+ here :(
[05:48] <n00d> Seveas: several times... I use pppoeconf as said in howto
[05:48] <Seveas> n00d, when you cannot navigate, can you still ping or use dig?
[05:48] <unperson> Seveas:  Ah, thanks.  Switching to the esd output seems to have solved the problem.  This seems to be a general issue that will come up with upgrades.  Is there somewhere such a problem should be reported?
[05:48] <Seveas> The_Feet, when installing nvidia drivers, simply install linux-k7
[05:49] <n00d> Seveas: its funny because I can still download files using apt-get but i cant navigate or talk with gaim... i need to disconnect and reconnect
[05:50] <Seveas> n00d, that is odd indeed, do you have any pppoe logs?
[05:50] <n00d> Seveas: i think i might have but im using windows right now cos i couldnt connect to irc
[05:51] <AnguS> can i change /etc/hostname on a running system, or will it cause problems to some software?
[05:51] <Kisain> can someone tell me how to make that boot disk and how to use it?
[05:51] <n00d> Seveas: can be a dialer problem ? i configured it to start with boot
[05:52] <jeroen_> what boot disk, Kisain?
[05:52] <Seveas> n00d, i have no experience with pppoe, but reading logs is my specialty :)
[05:53] <The_Feet> Seveas, did you mean have the K7 kernel running when i install nvidia drivers? cuz i did that... my concern is that i may be missing out on adb\vanced features of the k7 kernel with my chip if i boot that i386 kernel that loads the nvidia driver  :(
[05:53] <n00d> Seveas: hehe... could you point me in the direction of the specific logs so I can boot my linux machine to recover them
[05:53] <Kisain> the one that would fix lilo if xp screwd it up
[05:53] <Seveas> The_Feet, if you install linux-k7 it will install the latest k7 kernel + the driver for k7
[05:54] <Seveas> the nvidia driver for k7 that is
[05:54] <jeroen_> Kisain, did you install Lilo? Ubuntu's default is GRUB
[05:54] <Seveas> n00d, /var/log/ppp or something
[05:54] <The_Feet> ok, i musta goofed somewhere... i DO have the k7 kernel installed... will try again, thanks!
[05:54] <Kisain> no lilo is not installed
[05:54] <Kisain> grub is the bootloader?
[05:54] <Kisain> i think it called
[05:55] <jeroen_> Have you tried grub.org? Maybe it has info there
[05:55] <jeroen_> hmm
[05:56] <jeroen_> grub.org != Grub
[05:56] <jeroen_> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub.html
[05:56] <Raskall> I'm a bit amazed of linux's ability to resume a ssh session after resume/hibernate. Is windows capable of that?
[05:57] <Seveas> Raskall, that is merely a coincidence
[05:57] <n00d> Seveas: ok... im going to restart and then i come back :) thanks
[05:57] <Seveas> the connection might as well have timed out if the server was configured differently
[05:57] <lexxan> ?? grub
[05:57] <[uhelp] > grub: Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto -AND- Grub Boot floppy - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy. If you are simply trying to edit your bootup list, timeout or default OS to boot see /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:57] <lexxan> might have something
[05:57] <Seveas> Raskall, yes, and it can happen on windows too
[05:57] <Anubis> anyone here know of a way to edit the gnome 2.10 menu system to remove duplicates?
[05:58] <Raskall> Seveas: how come it's a coincidence? It works every time I resume my computer.
[05:58] <Seveas> Anubis, find the .desktop files that contain the duplicates
[05:58] <Seveas> Raskall, it's a coincidence that the server is configured that way
[05:58] <Seveas> and that you have a static ip
[05:58] <Raskall> Seveas: ahh. :)
[05:58] <Seveas> (or the ip hasn't changed)
[05:58] <tractor> Anyone knows if there is a better way to grid the icons in the desktop in gnome 2.10? "Keep aligned" isn't that good.
[05:59] <Raskall> Seveas: of course. have only static leases on my lan.
[05:59] <Seveas> Raskall, and a static external ip if the server is outside your lan :)
[05:59] <Nafallo> hi all
[05:59] <jeroen_> hi
[05:59] <Raskall> Seveas: in this case it's not, but I have seen the same from external connections too.
[05:59] <jacquesmerde> why does ubuntuguide.org use gpg when adding package repos?
[05:59] <Nafallo> does states have any function with udp in netfilter?
[06:00] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, to authenticate packages...
[06:00] <jeroen_> jacquesmerde: so apt-get won't wine about "not authenticated"
[06:01] <bigbill52a> hi everyone
[06:01] <Seveas> Nafallo, if 'state' refers to connection state, then no. UDP is a stateless protocol
[06:01] <jeroen_> hi
[06:01] <Seveas> connectionless i mean
[06:01] <Nafallo> Seveas, yea. that's what I thought :-)
[06:02] <Nafallo> Seveas, thanks for confirming :-)
[06:02] <lexxan> it's so amazing going back to optical
[06:02] <lexxan> wow
[06:02] <lexxan> I'm gonna go smash my ball mouse now
[06:02] <jacquesmerde> oh, so synaptic just does that automatically?
[06:02] <jeroen_> jacquesmerde: If you don't add gpg keys
[06:02] <lexxan> jacquesmerde, No you enter a command to add the marillat keys or whatever repo you use
[06:03] <jacquesmerde> i never had to use gpg when i ran warty, and ran apt-get and aptitude without synaptic
[06:03] <Xappe> hmm, damnit. I get gpg errors on my sources
[06:03] <jeroen_> jacquesmerde: Synaptic will tell you "not authenticated"
[06:03] <jeroen_> you don't need gpg
[06:03] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, warty apt didn't use authentication
[06:03] <lexxan> ya not a huge deal
[06:03] <Xappe> but I get the errors even though I only have ubuntu repos added
[06:03] <jacquesmerde> marillat? what the? i've been away from ubuntu for too long...
[06:04] <Mabus> lamont: ping ?
[06:04] <n00d> Seveas, hi there... i didn't find any log files
[06:04] <jacquesmerde> though using arch linux HAS been nice...
[06:04] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, marillat is the name of a repository with extra stuff
[06:04] <lexxan> marillat is just for w32codecs and mplayer etc
[06:04] <lexxan> ?? repository
[06:04] <[uhelp] > repository: To add repositories please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto/
[06:04] <Seveas> lexxan, mplayer is in universe/multiverse now
[06:04] <jacquesmerde> oh, so the gpg stuff is just for marillat? that would make sense...
[06:04] <lexxan> ya I just use the multiverse one myself
[06:04] <Nafallo> why use marillat when we got universe and multiverse?
[06:04] <lexxan> but it grabs the depends on marillat no?
[06:04] <n00d> Seveas, is there a configuration that can deactivate my connection after a time ?
[06:04] <Seveas> lexxan, no
[06:04] <lexxan> like libdvdcss or libxvidcore
[06:04] <jeroen_> jacquesmerde, also for Ubuntu
[06:05] <jacquesmerde> who maintains mallirat?
[06:05] <Seveas> n00d, not that i know of, but remember that i have little experience with pppoe
[06:05] <jeroen_> It just says "hey, we're canonical, and we approve this package"
[06:05] <Nafallo> lexxan, libxvidcore atleast...
[06:05] <Seveas> maybe someone else can help, or otherwise try the mailinglist
[06:05] <lexxan> ** 2:1.0.3-0.0 0
[06:05] <lexxan>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages
[06:05] <Nafallo> jacquesmerde, christian marillat :-)
[06:05] <[uhelp] > Sorry, no matches for 2:1.0.3-0.0 0 on the defenition database. (0.002s)
[06:05] <bigbill52a> i am really impressed with ubuntu's unofficial users guide...
[06:05] <lexxan> I guess it's all in there now?
[06:05] <lexxan> Def need marillat for codecs tho
[06:05] <MightyF> hoedy #ubuntu
[06:05] <MightyF> howdy*
[06:05] <lexxan> or www.mplayerhq.hu
[06:06] <Seveas> MightyF, it's called hoary, not howdy ;)))
[06:06] <n00d> Seveas, anyway... you helped me a lot
[06:06] <jeroen_> howdy
[06:06] <Nafallo> well, I should part and get on with my script.
[06:06] <MightyF> Seveas, oooohhhhhhhhhhh, all this time i've gotten it wrong
[06:06] <jacquesmerde> all i want to do is to allow universe or the equivalent, get some simple packages like wine and gftp, then disable universe and go back to main lock-down. am i gonna need to fiddle with gpg keys and the like? hoary definitely looks a lot nicer and cleaner than warty, i didnt realise it was more tricky under the hood
[06:06] <wnight> How can I find the non-US sources?
[06:06] <jeroen_> no
[06:06] <jeroen_> just add universe and download your stuff
[06:07] <lexxan> jacquesmerde, no..
[06:07] <jacquesmerde> no gpg crap?
[06:07] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, no fiddling with gpg involved
[06:07] <lexxan> jacquesmerde, Just add the repository and go.
[06:07] <lamont> Mabus: ack
[06:07] <lexxan> ?? repository > jacquesmerde
[06:07] <jacquesmerde> so universe has wine and gftp? is there a gftp equivalent in main?
[06:07] <jeroen_> universe has wine and gftp
[06:07] <MightyF> yeah
[06:07] <Dark3Lite> dcraven, what's the latest kernel available for ubuntu?
[06:07] <MightyF> not that wine works well ;P
[06:07] <lexxan> jacquesmerde, Just add everything in synaptic
[06:07] <Dark3Lite>  2.6.10-5-386
[06:07] <Dark3Lite> ??
[06:07] <[uhelp] > ??[x] : Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] 
[06:07] <Mabus> lamont: knoppix worked.
[06:08] <lexxan> Dark3Lite, ya
[06:08] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, gftp is in main
[06:08] <lexxan> Dark3Lite, Or compile your own.
[06:08] <Seveas> gftp-gtk
[06:08] <Mabus> (with no boot options)
[06:08] <lexxan> The kernel will not change afaik until the next major release in 6 months
[06:08] <Dark3Lite> aiight
[06:08] <Dark3Lite> cool thanks lexan..
[06:08] <Dark3Lite> for some reason my modem won't work..
[06:08] <Seveas> Dark3Lite, the latest kernel in te repositories is 2.6.10-5
[06:08] <lamont> Mabus: given that it's a completely different kernel, hardware detection, and X, I'm not terribly surprised...
[06:08] <MightyF> lexxan, is next major release Breezy?
[06:08] <lexxan> Which modem?
[06:08] <lexxan> MightyF, I believe so.
[06:09] <jeroen_> yes, breezy
[06:09] <Dark3Lite> i used ppconfig lexxan
[06:09] <jeroen_> Breezy Badger
[06:09] <Dark3Lite> but don't hear it dialing
[06:09] <jacquesmerde> if wine is the only package i want not in the main repo, i may as well just compile it fresh from cvs, as per the winehq instructions, yeah?
[06:09] <MightyF> lexxan, sweeeeet
[06:09] <lexxan> Dark3Lite, Have you looked at the wiki or forums?
[06:09] <Seveas> jacquesmerde, sure
[06:09] <Seveas> but debs are easier :)
[06:09] <jeroen_> jacquesmerde, wine also has .debs
[06:09] <Dark3Lite> yeah
[06:09] <Seveas> ane winehq has debs too iirc
[06:09] <jeroen_> you can download them @ winehq
[06:09] <lexxan> jacquesmerde, You are overcomplicating things. Enable your repositories.. and install.
[06:09] <jacquesmerde> lexxan: and then disable universe?
[06:10] <jeroen_> then dpkg -i wineblablabla
[06:10] <lexxan> why disable it?
[06:10] <MightyF> jacquesmerde, yeah, but be complicated if ya want though
[06:10] <wnight> I need the "non-us" sources for xine and such, right? Is there a list of them?
[06:10] <Seveas> wnight, you are thinking in debian terms :)
[06:10] <Dark3Lite> can't understand why my screen won't lock again
[06:10] <Mabus> lamont: yes .. anyway, you said you were interrested to know if it worked or not, so.
[06:10] <Dark3Lite> lol
[06:10] <lexxan> wnight, just install us ones?
[06:10] <jeroen_> wnight, you mean you want another language?
[06:10] <Mabus> lamont: it did.
[06:10] <Mabus> lamont: :)
[06:10] <Stuttergart2> Anyone else noticed that Hoary install not being able to get past the "Configuring timzeone" stage?
[06:10] <Seveas> wnight, if it isn't in main, try universe or multiverse
[06:10] <lexxan> Stuttergart2, ntpdate?
[06:10] <jacquesmerde> so there's more to wine than just the wine package yeah? i need shit like wine-utils, etc too, yeah?
[06:10] <jeroen_> yeah
[06:10] <lamont> Mabus: thanks
[06:11] <Stuttergart2> lexxan: eh?
[06:11] <MightyF> lexxan, is wine still in alpha?  Cuz the one I see in the repos is alpha
[06:11] <jeroen_> http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[06:11] <lexxan> hehe no idea
[06:11] <lexxan> I don't emulate
[06:11] <lamont> Mabus: if you could file a bug in bugzilla with the hardware configuration, lspci output, etc,etc, that'd be great
[06:11] <Seveas> wnight, try gxine, it's in universe
[06:11] <jacquesmerde> so download-deb rather than aptitude install wine?
[06:11] <Mabus> lamont: I'll look into it.
[06:11] <MightyF> jacquesmerde, use synaptic, don't complicate things
[06:11] <lamont> Mabus: thanks
[06:11] <Dark3Lite> hmm for some reason my mp3 won't play in xmms
[06:12] <jeroen_> jacquesmerde, what is it you want? The wine in universe or the wine @ winehq?
[06:12] <jacquesmerde> cool, so which wine synaptic packages do i need other than wine itself?
[06:12] <MightyF> Dark3Lite, Make sure xmms is outputting audio to ESD
[06:12] <lexxan> jacquesmerde, I think your first step would be to search 'wine' in synaptic
[06:12] <jeroen_> jacquesmerde, just install wine, plus its dependencies
[06:12] <lexxan> and decide.
[06:12] <Fish-Face> It appears that my Networking settings (default Gateway, active devices) are not saved on reboot
[06:12] <Fish-Face> Anyone know what might cause this?
[06:12] <jacquesmerde> sorry, i know about apt, i'm not a newbie there, just a complete newb about gpg and wine
[06:12] <universal> can someone tell me how to get my geforce 6800gt in funktion with nvidia.com driver??
[06:12] <lexxan> ?? nvidia
[06:12] <[uhelp] > nvidia: to setup your xorg binary nvidia driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto -OR- http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver -ALSO- http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
[06:12] <jeroen_> universal, search the wiki
[06:13] <MightyF> Dark3Lite, Or do #3 on this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:13] <universal> jeroen_, i tried but i cant figure out
[06:13] <MightyF> Dark3Lite, thats a more permanent fix
[06:13] <Dark3Lite> yeah I'm in wiki
[06:13] <universal> jeroen_, i need help for it'
[06:13] <jeroen_> sorry, I don't have an Nvidia
[06:14] <universal> lexxan, the nvidia driver from nvidia.com
[06:14] <lexxan> universal, The last link would give you an idea of what to do.
[06:14] <Seveas> universal, why not the one from the restricted-modules package?
[06:14] <MightyF> universal, I think the backport repos have the driver on it, don't quote me though
[06:15] <MightyF> universal, what Seveas said
[06:15] <lexxan> I believe you need your kernel headers
[06:15] <lexxan> then you can compile it.
[06:15] <tombs> hi ppl
[06:15] <MightyF> tombs, hi
[06:15] <Dark3Lite> heh MightyF
[06:15] <universal> its because its pretty laggy when playing games, and i think the clue is to get the latest driver from nvidia.com
[06:15] <MightyF> Dark3Lite, what?
[06:15] <Dark3Lite> just need to choose the esound output
[06:15] <Seveas> but if you don;t have a good reason not to use the drivers in the repos, please use these
[06:16] <Dark3Lite> :p
[06:16] <Dark3Lite> thanks
[06:16] <MightyF> np
[06:16] <Seveas> universal, no it's not
[06:16] <Seveas> universal, the clue is try to configure it better :)
[06:16] <Seveas> universal, and sorry, I have no idea on how to do that
[06:16] <MightyF> Dark3Lite, But changing ESD to not hog the sound device clears up any issues you might have with ESD in the future
[06:16] <universal> Seveas, yes i think so to, but hmmm--...
[06:17] <MightyF> Dark3Lite, It makes it so you can pick anything and still get sound output
[06:17] <lexxan> universal, I believe the binary with ubuntu is 7174.. the same as nvidia.com
[06:17] <jeroen_> Is there a ubuntu-calendar-may already?
[06:17] <YscO> Has ubuntu out of the box support for intel extreme 2 gpu?
[06:17] <MightyF> universal, lexxan I'm looking at it right now, its 7174, use the repo
[06:17] <lexxan> Well I doubt you're gonna get opengl etc
[06:17] <jeroen_> Ysc0, you mean one of those built-in things?
[06:18] <universal> lexxan, ok, but u dont know how to configure it to optimal effect?
[06:18] <lexxan> I'm not exactly impressed either
[06:18] <YscO> jup... just a crappy intel thing :+
[06:18] <lexxan> my 1ghz athlon with a geforce 2 pro can't run ut99 that well
[06:18] <lexxan> though in xp it runs fine.
[06:18] <zzzerotime> firestarter doesnt work, it tells me that it cant find a valid configuration file
[06:18] <zzzerotime> what can i do
[06:18] <wnight> Seveas: lexxan jeroen_ : I'm trying to install the illegal stuff, like, you know, libdvdcss2, how can I do this? I expected it to be called non-us like in Debian.
[06:18] <lexxan> zzzerotime, Did you just install it?
[06:18] <jeroen_> It's not illegal
[06:18] <lexxan> wnight, Add the marillat repository and apt-get install w32codecs
[06:18] <lexxan> and look at
[06:18] <lexxan> ?? restricted
[06:18] <[uhelp] > restricted: To find out more about java, dvd playing, codecs etc. see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:19] <Seveas> wnight, try universe, multiverse or the marillat repository
[06:19] <universal> MightyF, so i need the one from nvidia.com?
[06:19] <josh42> ?? wine
[06:19] <lexxan> ?? marillathoary
[06:19] <[uhelp] > wine[x] : No defenition found for word.
[06:19] <[uhelp] > marillathoary: To quickly add the marillat repository enter this in console - echo deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list - Now type sudo apt-get update
[06:19] <zzzerotime> I installed it, then dhcp didnt work, so I gave up and removed it, and now I just installed it again
[06:19] <josh42> Can anyone help me with installing wine?
[06:19] <MightyF> universal, no, use the one from the repo, its been compiled to work optimally in ubuntu
[06:19] <jeroen_> josh42, it works very automagically
[06:19] <jeroen_> did you sudo apt-get install wine ?
[06:20] <lexxan> josh42, apt-get install wine | wine blah.exe
[06:20] <josh42> jeroen_; I don't have it listed as a valid package
[06:20] <universal> MightyF, ok thx- but u also dont know how to configure it so it works optimally?
[06:20] <jeroen_> It's in universe
[06:20] <MightyF> wnight, use these codecs, it include pretty much every single one known to man: http://stanton-finley.net/fedora_core_3_installation_notes.html#MPlayer
[06:20] <lexxan> zzzerotime, Sorry I'm not too sure
[06:20] <lexxan> zzzerotime, Maybe check the forums/wiki.
[06:20] <jeroen_> You'll need to change repositories
[06:20] <universal> MightyF, just by do the Xorg the normal way?
[06:20] <jeroen_> ?? universe
[06:20] <MightyF> universal, not a clue my man, but I get consistently 76 FPS in Wolf:ET
[06:20] <[uhelp] > universe[x] : No defenition found for word.
[06:20] <josh42> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[06:20] <lexxan> MightyF, How do you check FPS in ET?
[06:20] <MightyF> universal, with a 6800
[06:20] <josh42> I have the universe repoistory
[06:20] <MightyF> lexxan, /cg_drawfps 1
[06:20] <jeroen_> lexxan, it's in options
[06:21] <lexxan> I'll see what I get with my geforce2 pro 1ghz
[06:21] <lexxan> athlong
[06:21] <jeroen_> josh42, are you sure?
[06:21] <lexxan> can i type that in console?
[06:21] <lexxan> et console
[06:21] <MightyF> jeroen_, depends on the version
[06:21] <MightyF> lexxan, yes
[06:21] <jeroen_> I have installed
[06:21] <lexxan> k brb
[06:21] <universal> MightyF, yesh ok.... i tried the counter strike using cedega, but it is jumping between 40 and 70
[06:21] <FunnyLookinHat> How easy is it to upgrade the graphics card on my machine and thus update drivers in X?
[06:21] <universal> MightyF, a bit unstable
[06:21] <universal> BRB
[06:22] <jeroen_> win, wine-utils, winesetuptk, libwine-nas, libwine-arts, libwine-alsa, libwine
[06:22] <MightyF> universal, well, you can't expect anything running on cedega to run as well as it would in windows
[06:22] <jeroen_> *wine
[06:22] <jeroen_> it works for me
[06:22] <MightyF> jeroen_, what does?
[06:23] <josh42> jeroen_; Very sure.. I have univese, multiverse, and even the winHQ repository - winetools is available, but no "wine"
[06:23] <jeroen_> wine
[06:23] <jeroen_> that's really odd
[06:23] <MightyF> josh42, I see wine in my universe repo
[06:23] <jeroen_> have you tried searching "wine" with synaptic?
[06:23] <josh42> Hrm.. could it be because I'm on a64?
[06:23] <jeroen_> yes
[06:23] <MightyF> ahhh
[06:23] <jeroen_> that could be
[06:23] <MightyF> yes
[06:24] <chx_> speaking of alsa and wine. I have two soundcards and wine seems to ignore /etc/asound.conf and grabs /dev/controlC0 instead of C1.
[06:24] <josh42> shouldn't I still be able to pull the i386 if nothing else?
[06:24] <jeroen_> probably
[06:24] <jeroen_> if you have the "compatability layer"
[06:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> josh42. did you install the 64bit version?
[06:24] <josh42> how do I check that?
[06:24] <lexxan> MightyF, Well on fueldump I was getting max 76-86 fps
[06:24] <jeroen_> that worked with Suse @ a64
[06:24] <lexxan> and like 30 outside
[06:24] <lexxan> Maybe the max framerate is set or something?
[06:24] <josh42> Kamping_Kaiser: Yes, fresh hoary right after I got the chip
[06:24] <MightyF> lexxan, ouch
[06:25] <Keizer> Is Mallirat the same thing as Multiverse in Hoary?
[06:25] <lexxan> lol my computer sucks.
[06:25] <lexxan> Keizer, no.
[06:25] <MightyF> lexxan, yeah, you can cap your fps so it doesn't vary as much
[06:25] <jeroen_> Keizer, no
[06:25] <lexxan> It's maintained by Christian Marillat.
[06:25] <MightyF> lexxan, /com_maxfps 43
[06:25] <jeroen_> Keizer, hoary has multiverse
[06:25] <MightyF> lexxan, 43 is a magic number
[06:25] <lexxan> I suck too bad at that game
[06:25] <lexxan> I don't play it much anymore
[06:25] <lexxan> ya i read there's 3 fps's that make you jump higher and shit
[06:25] <MightyF> lexxan, your dips in fps can make you really suck
[06:25] <lexxan> ya.
[06:25] <MightyF> lexxan, you need them steady
[06:25] <lexxan> I'm gonna get an acer ferrari laptop next week
[06:26] <MightyF> lexxan, sweet
[06:26] <YscO> that is really red :+
[06:26] <jeroen_> ferrari laptop?
[06:26] <lexxan> I love em :P
[06:26] <lexxan> They got a ferrari logo on them
[06:26] <jeroen_> Vrooommmmmm
[06:26] <lexxan> bright red
[06:26] <MightyF> lexxan, yeah, 43, 76, and 125 are three of the magic numbers
[06:26] <YscO> i just think they are ugly :X
[06:26] <lexxan> pimpin :P
[06:26] <MightyF> lexxan, also 333 is, but no one gets that
[06:26] <lexxan> noooooooooooO!
[06:26] <lexxan> lol
[06:26] <lexxan> 333
[06:26] <MightyF> yeah
[06:26] <YscO> Have you seen one for real
[06:26] <YscO> or just from pictures?
[06:26] <MightyF> I've gotten 444 fps before
[06:26] <lexxan> 4-cpu 4000+ with dual 6800s
[06:26] <lexxan> lol
[06:26] <MightyF> it was messing up the game, sending too much data to the server
[06:27] <lexxan> lol
[06:27] <MightyF> lexxan, WOW, maybe you'll get 333 now?!
[06:27] <lexxan> no i was saying if you had that you could get 333 :P
[06:27] <MightyF> lexxan, ohhh, right, yeah
[06:27] <lexxan> Sounds nice.. but I also wouldn't be that retarded with my money lol
[06:28] <esko> uganda ubuntu
[06:28] <MightyF> lexxan, well, if you had enough to throw around, then maybe
[06:28] <lexxan> I suppose its like ricing your car
[06:28] <jeroen_> maybe you could spend it more usefull things then
[06:28] <lexxan> You could blow it on a crazy computer
[06:28] <lexxan> lol
[06:28] <MightyF> lexxan, ha!
[06:28] <lexxan> something that has no practical use but bragging rights
[06:28] <lexxan> lol
[06:29] <MightyF> jeroen_, yeah, no kidding
[06:29] <lexxan> I don't waste money heh
[06:29] <MightyF> lexxan, sure it has practical use, I wanna play doom 3 at the highest setting!
[06:29] <lexxan> I make quite a bit working with computers in the oilfield
[06:29] <MightyF> argh!
[06:29] <lexxan> and i save lots
[06:29] <lexxan> Then the guys I work with.. they all got the toys
[06:29] <lexxan> but they also live paycheck to paycheck
[06:30] <MightyF> ummm, ok
[06:30] <MightyF> ;)
[06:30] <MightyF> we cleared the room
[06:30] <lexxan> toys meaning quads
[06:30] <FunnyLookinHat> Does ET have a synaptic package?
[06:30] <lexxan> motorbikes
[06:30] <jeroen_> no
[06:30] <MightyF> FunnyLookinHat, no
[06:30] <FunnyLookinHat> Well dang.
[06:30] <lexxan> sports cars
[06:30] <lexxan> etc
[06:30] <jeroen_> yeah
[06:31] <jeroen_> it's annoying
[06:31] <jeroen_> uninstalling it isn't one-click
[06:31] <MightyF> FunnyLookinHat, and make sure you have your graphics cards dev packages before installing it
[06:31] <josh43> wow - having major connection issues
[06:31] <josh43> but, yes, is there something I'm missing with a64 and wine?
[06:32] <jeroen_> aren't there a64 wine packages?
[06:32] <lexxan> All I see in here everyday is problems with a64 heh
[06:32] <josh43> not that I can find, so I even tried compling from the winhq source repository - but no go
[06:32] <lexxan> I think you should go back to i386 :P
[06:32] <josh43> lol
[06:32] <jeroen_> Building the Wine Package from Source using APT:
[06:32] <jeroen_> APT also allows easy compilation from source of a package. This is useful if there is no binary package available for your architecture, or if you wish to create a fresh .deb file from scratch. To do this, first follow the instructions for installing from the console above, except instead of running apt-get install wine run 'apt-get build-dep wine'. This will download the needed development packages for your system to make the wine package.
[06:32] <jeroen_> Then, run 'apt-get --build source wine', have a snack, and wait for the compiling to finish.
[06:32] <jeroen_> To install your newly created package (which should be in whatever directory you were in when you ran apt-get --build source), run 'dpkg -i wine*.deb' as root.
[06:32] <josh43> ok, I have a p3 800 I'll swap out for
[06:33] <AnguS> what kind of snack=
[06:33] <AnguS> ?
[06:33] <lexxan> lol.
[06:33] <josh43> ooooh, right - it built a deb. lol
[06:33] <josh43> ls
[06:33] <jeroen_> some Wine ofcourse.. duh!
[06:33] <josh43> oop
[06:33] <josh43> and cheeze?
[06:33] <jeroen_> http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[06:33] <dell500> has anyone installed cedega cvs through linux-gamers howto??
[06:35] <josh43> DOH - now it thinks my ubuntu 64 cd is not a valid repository
[06:35] <MightyF> jeroen_, what do you want to run on wine that there isn't an equivalent for in linux?
[06:35] <jeroen_> MightyF, I don't want to
[06:36] <MightyF> jeroen_, ok, what are you going to run on it?
[06:36] <josh43> I'm the one running wine, and I'm looking for radmin first
[06:37] <MightyF> oh, right
[06:37] <MightyF> jeroen_, ha, my bad
[06:37] <MightyF> josh42, what are you trying to run on wine?
[06:37] <jeroen_> some <_< CD to learn english // but i've got wine working
[06:37] <josh43> Radmin client: www.radmin.com
[06:37] <jeroen_> I was trying to help josh
[06:37] <jeroen_> gtg
[06:37] <jeroen_> bye
[06:37] <FlyingSquirrel32> What codecs do I need to play a wmv
[06:38] <wezzer-> w32codecs
[06:38] <lexxan> FlyingSquirrel32,
[06:38] <josh43> ls
[06:38] <fadrian> I'm getting a problem where gdm (or X or anything X-related) isn't starting up because it can't load the X libraries.  Any ideas?
[06:38] <lexxan> add the marillat repository and apt-get install w32codecs
[06:38] <lexxan> ?? marillathoary
[06:38] <[uhelp] > marillathoary: To quickly add the marillat repository enter this in console - echo deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list - Now type sudo apt-get update
[06:38] <FlyingSquirrel32> wezzer-: that's what I thought, already got it. must be a messed up file.
[06:39] <lexxan> well it's 4:20 here
[06:39] <lexxan> brb
[06:39] <dell500> lol
[06:39] <MightyF> josh42, have you considered using vnc?  or remote-desktop?
[06:40] <josh43> MightyF: Yes, very much.. but there are some major features that are missing: namely the ability to easily daisy-chain connections.. I can forward only one port, and access any pc inside my lan directly
[06:41] <MightyF> josh42, ahhhh
[06:41] <josh43> "Connect through" as they call it
[06:41] <MightyF> blech
[06:41] <josh43> plus, it does encryption ottb, and sometimes I need to control other ppls window boxes
[06:41] <MightyF> heh
[06:42] <josh43> yeah, like all those windows apps I've really come to depend on, there's no /exact/ replacement ;)
[06:43] <FunnyLookinHat> OpenOffice replaced everything I "depended" on in windows...  of course I used open-office in windows as well.
[06:43] <YscO> Allrighty then, does anyone has a xconfig file for ubuntu 5.4 with an intel extreme 2 graphics card?
[06:43] <yccheok> any sourceforge user here?
[06:44] <josh43> FunnyLookinHat: I need to replace a mouse gesture app, litestep, eudora, dreamweaver, flashfxp, samurize, and a couple of other things
[06:45] <sig> idaho45, where abouts are you?
[06:45] <sig> I'm in Payette county
[06:45] <dcraven> yccheok: I'm a sourceforge user.
[06:45] <FunnyLookinHat> josh43: Sounds to me like you want to use OSX and just the Os X compiles of Macromedia stuff...  heh
[06:46] <josh43> ok, I did 'apt-get build-dep wine', and it went through - it says there should be a .deb, but I can't find it, and when I run 'apt-get build-dep wine' again, it says there's nothing to do
[06:46] <ZeroA4> josh43, Dreamweaver can be replaced by nvu but it is not a 1:1 clone
[06:46] <josh43> FunnyLookinHat: I would /like/ to run osx, but I like my a64, and I LOVE gnome/ubuntu
[06:47] <josh43> ZeroA4; where do I find that?
[06:47] <FunnyLookinHat> As you should.  : )
[06:48] <dcraven> Vim is a good Dreamweaver replacement.
[06:48] <dcraven> heh
[06:48] <josh43> lol
[06:48] <josh43> I run gvim and flashfxp in windows for the smaller sites
[06:48] <NeWiTa> pico is even better
[06:48] <ZeroA4> josh43, http://www.nvu.com/ but there must be a repo with it
[06:49] <sig> ZeroA4, yes check on http://ubuntuguide.org
[06:49] <sig> on installing that
[06:49] <josh43> do you know if it does php/css properly/well?
[06:49] <sig> http://ubuntuguide.org/#Nvu
[06:49] <ZeroA4> Sig True!
[06:50] <Orangey> hey all!
[06:50] <Orangey> how can I force apt-get to ignore a dependency?
[06:50] <Taliesin`> apt-get -f ?
[06:50] <josh43> looks like a nice app - have to install that now :)
[06:51] <ZeroA4> josh43, http://ubuntuguide.org/#nvu
[06:51] <josh43> Already there
[06:51] <Orangey> Taliesin`: is that a fact, or a suspicion? : )
[06:51] <Orangey> Taliesin`: it says -f is "fix broken"
[06:52] <Orangey> what about dpkg --force?
[06:53] <dcraven> dpkg --force-depends
[06:53] <dcraven> Orangey: "man dpkg" for more info.
[06:53] <Orangey> dcraven: gotcha.. and lastly, is there a way to download a .deb into my current directory?
[06:54] <dcraven> Orangey: wget?
[06:54] <Nechushtan> anyone here running amd64?
[06:54] <josh43> I am
[06:54] <Orangey> dcraven: when I don't know the source? do I really have to look it up, or can apt-get tell me where it is?
[06:55] <Orangey> aha! /var/cache/apt/archives!
[06:55] <dcraven> Orangey: apt-get -d will put it in your achives.
[06:56] <Nechushtan> josh43: u have any good guides/faq/howto type pages for ubuntu on amd64?
[06:56] <josh43> Nechushtan; Anything specific you need?
[06:57] <josh43> Cause it's very much the same as ubuntu i386
[06:57] <Nechushtan> ok
[06:57] <bigbill52a> i have amd-64 but i am running k7
[06:57] <Nechushtan> are all the i386 packages compiled for amd64?
[06:58] <yccheok> dcraven:hi
[06:58] <dcraven> yccheok: hi
[06:58] <josh43> all the i386 packages will run on a64, but they will be a bit slower than a64 packages
[06:58] <mikail> Hey, David.  Is that you?
[06:58] <yccheok> dcraven: do u noe how can i create homepage for my sourceforge project?
[06:58] <Nechushtan> josh43: gotcha
[06:59] <fadrian> Hi all... When I try to start gdm, I'm getting an error message saying that the program can't load libXdmcp.so.6.  The file is there in /usr/X11R6/lib and there is an entry in /etc/ld.so.conf that says to look there.  Any ideas why X isn't finding that library?
[06:59] <Nechushtan> ok, one more question anyone know how to manually install lilo or grub onto a scsi drive while in the installer's shell?
[07:00] <dcraven> yccheok: There is documentation for that at sf.net
[07:01] <Gianmaria> Hi all, any of you had tftpd not able to start trying wiki/localnetinstall?
[07:01] <yccheok> dcraven: can u please point me out? i read the shell service document, but get not much hint
[07:02] <Dhanjel> Hi! Does anyone know how to uninstall ath_hal (atx111 chipset) network drivers? Can't get them to work so I want to use ndiswrapper instead.
[07:02] <Gianmaria> what's the meaning of recvfrom: Socket operati
[07:02] <Gianmaria> on on non-socket
[07:03] <Gianmaria> how can it be solved? Thanks in advance linuxers
[07:03] <Dhanjel> Or maybe you guys can help me fix the drivers, I get a signal strength but cannot use dhcp or static ip address. I get no results if I run iwlist can
[07:04] <jeroen_> fadrian, I have no idea, but you could try to reinstall the lib
[07:04] <jeroen_> fadrian, you get the same error when logging in a terminal and typing startx?
[07:04] <spiral> hi
[07:04] <dcraven> yccheok: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=4297&group_id=1#posting
[07:04] <jeroen_> hi
[07:04] <josh43> hrm.. anyone have any thoughts on: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:05] <josh43> make: *** [configure-stamp]  Error 77
[07:05] <jeroen_> do you have gcc?
[07:05] <josh43> I dunno.. I assumed so
[07:05] <jeroen_> can you check?
[07:05] <josh43> yep - is there
[07:06] <Dhanjel> anyone? :(
[07:06] <josh43> Dhanjel; wireless?
[07:06] <Dhanjel> josh43: yeah
[07:07] <josh43> try installing a wardriver app :)
[07:07] <Dhanjel> a d-link dwl-g520+ with TI ACX111 chipset
[07:07] <Dhanjel> josh43: wardriver?
[07:07] <josh43> anyone know a good auto-connecting wardriver app for linux?
[07:07] <Nechushtan> so is SATA loaded like a true scsi or some sort of ide-scsi workaround?
[07:08] <Dhanjel> josh43: i managed to set it to use static ip and it gets a signal strength. but it only sends packages, never recieves..
[07:09] <tbasten> how do i compile my kernel so i can get the vesa modules at the end?
[07:09] <josh43> well, what I was going for; a wardriver's focus is to scan for wireless networks, find out how to connect, and give you a boatload of info about the connection point
[07:10] <bretzel> Nechushtan: Interresting question - I have a SATA hdd and /dev/sd[x]  may means SCSI no ?
[07:10] <ek__> does anyone have experience with ipod's under ubuntu?
[07:10] <Dhanjel> josh43: ah ok
[07:10] <Dhanjel> josh43: but you don't know the name of any good ones?
[07:10] <mjr> bretzel, (at least some) SATA thingies show up logically as SCSI devices (and yes they are)
[07:11] <josh43> Dhanjel; You could use Kismet
[07:11] <Dhanjel> ok
[07:11] <bretzel> And I think SATA is not SCSI... Thus nor ide-scsi workaround is... interresting :-)
[07:11] <josh43> I havn't run wireless under linux yet, but kismet has some street cred ;)
[07:11] <mjr> well, SATA takes after SCSI, on the logical level, quite a bit, but so do earlier ATAPI systems too
[07:12] <mjr> mut it's not SCSI as such, no
[07:13] <bretzel> that's it! interresting ( again) but it means that (ATAPI, SATA) are after all, SCSI functions related :-)
[07:13] <jeroen_> tbasten, kernel compiling: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelCompileHowto
[07:13] <Nechushtan> but SATA will behave like scsi devices in linux as opposed to the ide-scsi workaround for ATA?
[07:13] <tbasten> jeroen_, i am not dumb, i cant seem to find the right swtich for vesa drivers
[07:13] <tbasten> jeroen_, i can compile
[07:14] <jeroen_> okay
[07:14] <Nechushtan> josh43: is the sources.list for amd64 any different?
[07:14] <bigbill52a> i found a way to install windows on my sata drive and linux on my ide..they are totally independent of each other
[07:14] <fadrian> yes, I was.  I tried reinstalling the lib and that seemed to do the trick.  Thanks all...
[07:15] <bigbill52a> so if i have to reinstall one or the other...it does not mess up the boot
[07:15] <jeroen_> that's nice
[07:15] <bretzel> Nechushtan: Anyway, in the SATA-RAID bios, it is not SCSI, but my bios can emulate ( or put into ) the IDE-like functions ...
[07:15] <jeroen_> you can also just reinstall grub all the time..
[07:16] <Xappe> tried out gdesklets some minutes ago, are they broken somehow in Hoary?
[07:17] <tbasten> nah
[07:17] <dcraven> Xappe: I don't think they are broken generally, no.
[07:17] <tbasten> dazzed, hey dude
[07:17] <bretzel> bigbill52a: I do have WindowXP Home edition, WindowsXP pro ( see windowslsd III ) in my SATA, and then this Linux-ubuntu also in the SATA drive, Bootable-raid enabled, non-IDE mode :-)
[07:19] <bretzel> But It was Brain-killer to setup the mix of IDE+ SATA drive for Windows... ( had to prepare drivers diskette for Windows installation )
[07:19] <Xappe> dcraven: ok, I can't add starter to that fancy gdesklet starter bar nor access the options for the weather desklet
[07:20] <dell500> i installed cedega CVS, i'm suppose to run the cvscedega command, but it doesnt' work for some reason
[07:20] <dcraven> Xappe: I've never used gdesklets, but I've heard of Ubuntu users having success in here.
[07:20] <bretzel> dell500: hey, is n't cedega supposed to be non-free, $$$ to obtain ?
[07:20] <bigbill52a> when installing windows...just select none for ide drives and boot up from the sata drive...windows will not use the ide drives for boot...
[07:20] <jeroen_> Does anyone know why there's no ubuntu-calendar-may (yet)?
[07:20] <Xappe> dcraven: i used them when I was running Hoary under development,but now there seems to be problems
[07:20] <jeroen_> I mean.. it *is* May...
[07:21] <dell500> bretzel, nope, cvs version is free
[07:21] <dell500> if i had money for a subscription i would give them their $5 a month and have no worries
[07:21] <dell500> but i don't have $5 a month for them lol
[07:21] <bretzel> dell500: DOH!!! where to go to obtain it ?????? ---
[07:21] <dcraven> bretzel: It's no-cost, but crippled.
[07:21] <MightyF> LATER GUYS! gotta run!  peace jeroen_ dcraven josh43 and others
[07:21] <dell500> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[07:21] <bigbill52a> for linux...turn ide drives back on (auto) and load linux into ide drive...
[07:21] <dell500> they have a howto
[07:21] <dcraven> Later MightyF
[07:22] <dell500> dcraven, very crippled
[07:22] <jeroen_> Is there noone who knows why there's no ubuntu-calendar-may yet?
[07:22] <jeroen_> by MightyF
[07:22] <jeroen_> *bye
[07:22] <bretzel> dcraven: I don't understand "crippled" -- low english skills ...
[07:22] <jeroen_> cripple = not able to walk
[07:22] <dcraven> jeroen_: I'm not sure the authors of the calendar frequent this channel.
[07:23] <jeroen_> dcraven: true
[07:23] <jeroen_> But I'm eager for May :P
[07:23] <yahalom> i'm having  weird dependency issues all of a sudden with mplayer, all the dependencies i have are apparently the wrong ones
[07:23] <more> hello
[07:23] <jeroen_> hi
[07:23] <dcraven> bretzel: It is missing important peices that are required to successfully run many games/applications.
[07:23] <yahalom> i cant apt-get install mplayer because it says i need xmms but i have xmms so then it says i have the wrong xmms?
[07:23] <more> someone know wich program what can play mp3 works under ubunto?
[07:23] <tbasten> ok, anyone know ANYTHING about compile kernels and here?
[07:24] <bretzel> bigbill52a: In my case, my bios ( ASUS P4 P800 SE ) doesn't allow bootable SATA in IDE mode... nust be in SATA-RAID-bootable ... Thus, Had to provide drivers at Windows install
[07:24] <more> live cd
[07:24] <jeroen_> more, beep-media-player
[07:24] <more> url?
[07:24] <yahalom> could it be because i installed tome-xine?
[07:24] <jeroen_> tbasten, can't you find it in menuconfig?
[07:24] <tbasten> no
[07:24] <dcraven> yahalom: Lose the merrilat repo from your sources.list and install the mplayer from universe and your problems will disappear.
[07:24] <jeroen_> that sucks...
[07:24] <tbasten> jeroen_, i dont think so, only go framebuffer shit
[07:24] <more> how can i install it?
[07:24] <yahalom> dcraven, but i like my merillat depos.
[07:25] <bretzel> dcraven: sad, I wish I could run Westwood Command&Conquer General ( orig+ ZeroHour ) in Linux! :-)
[07:25] <jeroen_> more, you can do so with synaptic
[07:25] <yahalom> dcraven, maybe i should just compile it from source?
[07:25] <more> remember i'm running on a live cd ;)
[07:25] <dcraven> yahalom: You could do that.
[07:25] <jeroen_> more, ah.. a live cd
[07:25] <yahalom> mccoy_, one issue it says i'm missing gtk so i cant install gui, any ideas?
[07:25] <jeroen_> more, ubuntu doesn't have mp3 support by default
[07:25] <jeroen_> ?? restricted
[07:25] <jeroen_> ?? restricted format
[07:25] <more> no it dont got the codec
[07:25] <more> y :/
[07:26] <jeroen_> ?? mp3
[07:26] <more> yep i cant play mp3 :(
[07:26] <jeroen_> I'm trying to get uhelp to say something usefull
[07:26] <jeroen_> :P
[07:26] <dcraven> ** format
[07:26] <[uhelp] > Found 4 matches. Sorted: dvd, java, mp3, restricted. (0.002s)
[07:26] <dcraven> ?? restricted
[07:26] <dcraven> broken bot
[07:27] <jeroen_> yeah..
[07:27] <jeroen_> ?? mp3
[07:27] <jeroen_> ???????
[07:27] <dcraven> lexxan: Fix the bot! haha
[07:27] <more> what you running jeroen?
[07:27] <jeroen_> what do you mean, more?
[07:27] <more> os?
[07:27] <dazzed> sup tbasten
[07:27] <jeroen_> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:27] <jeroen_> Ubuntu
[07:28] <bretzel> Q: how , what can I install to have a clipboard-history ( like klipper ) in gnome ? ( the clipboard-daemon in ubuntuguide talk is not weel documented... )
[07:28] <tbasten> dazzed, not much man. cant see mto find anyone who knows anything about vesa drivers
[07:28] <more> ty
[07:28] <jeroen_> does that help?
[07:28] <more> yep
[07:28] <jeroen_> :)
[07:29] <dazzed> theres a wiki on them
[07:29] <dazzed> tbasten: ^
[07:29] <tbasten> wiki.x.org?
[07:29] <tbasten> been there
[07:29] <jeroen_> ?? calendar
[07:29] <[uhelp] > calendar[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:29] <more> now i only need to get gstreamer0.8-mad package ;)
[07:29] <jeroen_> ?? ubuntu-calendar
[07:29] <tbasten> is there a generic driver for graphic cards
[07:29] <[uhelp] > ubuntu-calendar[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:30] <dazzed> brb
[07:30] <dell500> has anyone here installed cvscedega??
[07:31] <dcraven> tbasten: Is it vesafb that you want?
[07:31] <tbasten> dcraven, isnt vesafb just for console, not gui?
[07:32] <dcraven> tbasten: It's for frame buffer.. But I don't know what you want.
[07:33] <tbasten> ok, i just want to use a generic driver for my video so i can get into X
[07:33] <more> wow linux rocks with those free packages ;)
[07:33] <bretzel> Strange: hdparm -d1 fails for my DVD:  Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-109 ....
[07:34] <dcraven> tbasten: Have you tried changing the Device Driver in xorg.conf to "vesa"?
[07:34] <danko123456> pioneer dvdrw??
[07:34] <danko123456> where doyou buy that?
[07:34] <danko123456> over the net?
[07:34] <bretzel> danko123456: yes, -- Why, is it a crappy DVD-RW ??
[07:34] <tbasten> dcraven, yeah
[07:35] <Madeye> what is khelper in the process list?
[07:35] <tbasten> "module not found:
[07:35] <dcraven> tbasten: Or maybe "vga"?
[07:35] <tbasten> hang on
[07:35] <danko123456> bretzel: no, just never heard pioneer made those...
[07:35] <danko123456> probably a good one, though, pioneer is good usually
[07:36] <bretzel> danko123456: It is a Double-Layer burner, burning at 12.5x on those 8x DVD+/- R :-)
[07:36] <jeroen_> 33
[07:37] <bretzel> danko123456: For now, it rocks and very fast.
[07:37] <danko123456> sopunds pretty gopod
[07:37] <danko123456> no p's
[07:37] <chx_> hi. is there an easy way to see which module drives a specific dev file?
[07:37] <Gwildor> RuffianSoldier
[07:38] <bretzel> I buy it in a local  computer store.
[07:38] <danko123456> anyone who wants to see some faces of Ubuntu developers, I got this link last night on this channel, http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/
[07:38] <thully> hi - I just re-installed Hoary.  what sources should I add to the sources.list?  Right now I just have main/restricted/universe/multiverse and the updates/security updates for these
[07:38] <dell500> can someone here help me with the cvscedega version??
[07:38] <drcode> any one know why I got this error /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a ?
[07:38] <danko123456> thully: those should be fine...
[07:39] <danko123456> thully: there is only one more
[07:39] <thully> any special suggestions - I may add marillat, but that has had trouble as of late...
[07:39] <chx_> is there an easy way to see which module drives a specific dev file?
[07:39] <jeroen_> thully: what do you want to install?
[07:39] <jeroen_> thully: what you have now is prob enough
[07:40] <more> hmm its still doesn't works xms hangs :/
[07:40] <jeroen_> it does?
[07:40] <chx_> is there an easy way to see which module drives a specific dev file?
[07:40] <jeroen_> that's weird
[07:40] <danko123456> marillat, and backports, thats it that I know of...both are not really very well supported...and a special suggestion, when upgrading to next Ubuntu comment those out if you add them
[07:40] <more> yep it hangs
[07:40] <thully> I do want to use a basic system+development+multimedia codecs
[07:40] <more> by playing
[07:40] <jeroen_> I don't now much about the LiveCD
[07:40] <more> ok np
[07:40] <jeroen_> I can play mp3s perfectly...
[07:40] <danko123456> more: right away when you pres play right?
[07:40] <more> where you from jeroen?
[07:40] <jeroen_> NL
[07:40] <tbasten> does anyone have a dual monitor setup?
[07:40] <more> hha m2
[07:40] <thully> So - what does backports get you
[07:41] <jeroen_> it gest you new updates
[07:41] <danko123456> thully: not sure, check out the forums.
[07:41] <jeroen_> for example: new version of gaim
[07:41] <jeroen_> and new wesnoth
[07:41] <danko123456> it talks about that
[07:41] <jeroen_> these won't be updated in Ubuntu until Breezy
[07:41] <more> do you run ubunto now ?
[07:41] <jeroen_> yes
[07:41] <danko123456> more: I had an issue with xmms hanging when you press play, freezes
[07:41] <thully> any multimedia packages, or must you go to marillat for those?
[07:41] <more> stuur eens een screenshotje?
[07:41] <jeroen_> hoe?
[07:41] <danko123456> more: I fixed it by changing the out put somthing
[07:41] <tbasten> Does anyone have a dual monitor setup?
[07:42] <more> gewoon printscreen toch?
[07:42] <danko123456> in options, preferences of xmms
[07:42] <jeroen_> jaa, maar sturen ;)
[07:42] <more> rechter muisknop op me naam
[07:42] <danko123456> thully: muiltimedia>?
[07:42] <more> en dan xdcc
[07:42] <thully> I want to be able to play/rip MP3 and play AAC (for songs from itunes)
[07:42] <more> ctcp
[07:42] <danko123456> like restricted formats?
[07:43] <danko123456> thully:  apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[07:43] <danko123456> more!
[07:43] <thully> Yes - I'm just wondering if somebody has an alternative to marillat for these.  I've used marillat in the past, but the dependencies are broken now
[07:43] <more> sup
[07:43] <tbasten> Does anyone have a dual monitor setup?
[07:43] <danko123456> scroll up, to see about xmms
[07:43] <bur[n] er> thully: just use multiverse/universe ?
[07:43] <jeroen_> more, accepteer die transfer
[07:44] <danko123456> I understood that, jeroen_
[07:44] <danko123456> :)
[07:44] <more> bah
[07:44] <jeroen_> :)
[07:44] <more> ik durk op accept :s
[07:44] <thully> I actually contributed to RestrictedFormats - but everything referring to marillat doesn't work right anymore (since there's a stupid dependency on a new glibc in sid)
[07:44] <more> durk*
[07:44] <jeroen_> druk?
[07:44] <more> ja
[07:44] <more> :/
[07:44] <jeroen_> ik zit achter een router... :-/
[07:44] <tbasten> Does anyone know much about setting up dual monitors?
[07:44] <more> dat zal het wel izjn ;)
[07:45] <tbasten> omg, english please
[07:45] <jeroen_> mijn scherm is toch niet zo interessant
[07:45] <tbasten> lol
[07:45] <jeroen_> Yes sir!
[07:45] <lexxan> tbasten, xinerama I think
[07:45] <more> how did i get root acces on terminal again?
[07:45] <more> sudo su?
[07:45] <lexxan> libxinerama-dev - X Window System multi-head display library development files
[07:45] <lexxan> libxinerama1 - X Window System multi-head display library
[07:45] <lexxan> libxinerama1-dbg - X Window System multi-head display library (unstripped)
[07:45] <jeroen_> more, just check out some standard screenshots @ http://ubuntuforums.org
[07:45] <tbasten> sudo *command u want*
[07:45] <more> ok
[07:45] <more> jeroen_ ok
[07:46] <danko123456> more: is that what happens with your xmms?
[07:46] <jeroen_> more, look at ubuntu art talk
[07:46] <more> no it just hangs when i want to play the mp3
[07:46] <jeroen_> more, or art gallery
[07:46] <danko123456> yes, can you just open it thouh?
[07:46] <more> ok ty
[07:46] <danko123456> just without a song
[07:46] <more> it hangs when i press play
[07:46] <more> it can open
[07:46] <danko123456> thats it
[07:46] <danko123456> I have your solutions likely
[07:46] <danko123456> I had the same thing
[07:47] <more> btw its on a live cd ^^
[07:47] <danko123456> open it, and get to preferences
[07:47] <more> ok
[07:47] <more> first i need to kill it
[07:47] <danko123456> change the output plugin to esound
[07:47] <more> how do i kill it?
[07:47] <danko123456> k
[07:47] <more> because it still hangs
[07:47] <danko123456> there is a force quit plugin
[07:47] <danko123456> I mean
[07:47] <danko123456> panel applet
[07:47] <danko123456> do you use gnome?
[07:47] <more> ye
[07:48] <danko123456> k, right click on your pannel
[07:48] <danko123456> panel
[07:48] <danko123456> then add to panel
[07:48] <danko123456> and add a force quit apnel
[07:48] <danko123456> applte
[07:48] <danko123456> I just woke up, my fingers cant type yet
[07:48] <danko123456> so, add the applet, and force ill it.
[07:48] <danko123456> then, open it, and go to prefs, and change the output plugin to esound
[07:49] <more> is there not a taskmanager because i dont understand it :/
[07:49] <danko123456> no, there is not
[07:49] <danko123456> so, do you think you get what I am getting you to do?
[07:49] <danko123456> you right click on the panel, the top thing...
[07:49] <more> yep but i need to kill the damn program
[07:49] <more> but i can :/
[07:49] <danko123456> and add to panel
[07:49] <more> cant
[07:49] <danko123456> telling you.
[07:49] <more> ok
[07:49] <more> found
[07:49] <more> panel
[07:49] <danko123456> right click on the panel
[07:49] <danko123456> cool
[07:49] <danko123456> add to panel
[07:50] <bretzel> Another Q: lmsensors seem cool, but cannot find where to find infos and install those sensors-related to my bios/motherboards ...
[07:50] <danko123456> Force quit is what you want to add
[07:50] <graabein> hi... im the guy with the nvidia/nv problem... anyone care to help me?
[07:50] <more> done
[07:50] <danko123456> killed?
[07:50] <more> yes sir
[07:50] <danko123456> cool
[07:50] <danko123456> open xmms now, dont press play;)
[07:50] <more> let me restart it
[07:50] <danko123456> yup
[07:50] <Xappe> why not use top or something to kill it?
[07:50] <danko123456> cause I dont know...
[07:50] <danko123456> :)
[07:50] <danko123456> tell us
[07:51] <Xappe> enter top in your terminal and you'll see
[07:51] <more> damn i wont start anymore :/
[07:51] <more> and i cant reboot since i'm on a live cd
[07:51] <more> let me try to unistall and reinstall it
[07:51] <Xappe> more, check with top if it's still running
[07:51] <graabein> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_space_dogs
[07:51] <more> what is top?
[07:52] <Xappe> a process viewer
[07:52] <Xappe> manager
[07:52] <more> where can i find the app?
[07:52] <more> ok found it
[07:52] <Xappe> more: just enter "top" in a terminal
[07:52] <more> it eating memory :A
[07:52] <more> the xmms
[07:52] <more> ok done
[07:52] <danko123456> ok, i figured it out, thanks, Xappe
[07:52] <more> ok launched
[07:53] <danko123456> go prefs
[07:53] <danko123456> change output plugin
[07:53] <more> ti wucg>
[07:53] <more> to wich?
[07:53] <danko123456> esound
[07:53] <danko123456> I said it
[07:53] <Xappe> danko123456: another way is to use ps -A and the kill command ;)
[07:53] <danko123456> anyhow.
[07:53] <more> ok
[07:53] <Xappe> or killall xmms
[07:53] <danko123456> cool, thanks
[07:54] <danko123456> oh, so thats where the killall gnome-panel comes from
[07:54] <more> i think i need to install the esound plugin
[07:54] <danko123456> try other ones that you have
[07:54] <danko123456> one may work
[07:54] <more> i tryed but none worked
[07:54] <Xappe> more: just kill esd then
[07:54] <Xappe> more: killall esd
[07:54] <danko123456> it works then too?
[07:55] <danko123456> were about to see
[07:55] <more> well this is the first time on linux
[07:55] <danko123456> cool
[07:55] <danko123456> its a bumpy ride:)
[07:55] <yarr> how do I change the window manager gnome uses?  I'd like to switch to Sawfish
[07:56] <more> wow thnks :) works like a charm
[07:56] <more> esound
[07:56] <more> thanks for helping me out ;)
[07:56] <ubuntu> hello guys
[07:57] <Xappe> more: the problem is you probably can't hear mutiple sounds with esd not running
[07:57] <ubuntu> does somebody know how to make Gnome Shell transparent
[07:57] <danko123456> it is not totally transparent
[07:57] <danko123456> it can show the desktop
[07:57] <danko123456> not the windows under it
[07:58] <ubuntu> well no, just an image or something similar
[07:58] <danko123456> edit>current profile, effects tab
[07:58] <iGama> ppl , is there anyone having this error: "A system error occurred." when tryng to use launchpad?
[07:58] <Gianmaria> CarlK: Hi Carl, I checked the files and nothing seems wrong, but I discovered a new error: in.tftpd[335] : cannot bind to local socket: Address already in use, what do you think?
[07:59] <ubuntu> danko, WOOOOW, thanks a lot mate, it works!!! THANKSS
[07:59] <ShakeR> yoyo
[07:59] <danko123456> heh, sure
[07:59] <ubuntu> thanks, bye now, must go and study a bit ;P
[07:59] <danko123456> iGama: havent tried to launch it yet
[07:59] <danko123456> go, cya
[07:59] <ubuntu> Byez and thanks again
[08:00] <danko123456> welcome
[08:00] <iGama> im try to do some translations, and i can't :S
[08:00] <danko123456> can you do it through the web?
[08:00] <danko123456> try rosetta in google
[08:00] <iGama> danko123456 its rosseta
[08:01] <iGama> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/
[08:01] <iGama> i log-in, click rosseta, click on the file do translate, choose the languange and it gives me the error
[08:02] <danko123456> whuichbrowser?
[08:02] <more> do you guys know where i can download new themes?
[08:02] <danko123456> www.gnome-look.org
[08:03] <more> ok
[08:03] <danko123456> ok
[08:03] <more> how do you know so much?
[08:03] <danko123456> xmms not working?:(
[08:03] <danko123456> haha
[08:03] <danko123456> i know nothing
[08:03] <more> yep its working
[08:03] <danko123456> I have some info
[08:03] <danko123456> sweet
[08:03] <danko123456> with the killall esd?
[08:03] <more> i did thank you
[08:03] <more> no with the sound
[08:03] <more> esound
[08:03] <danko123456> sweet
[08:03] <SITEC> HELLO
[08:03] <danko123456> cool, well that one I know cause I had the same issue
[08:04] <danko123456> then, the gnome-look I know cause I like themes too
[08:04] <danko123456> but, ask me most questions here, and I dont know.
[08:04] <SITEC> IM NO SPEAK ENGLISH
[08:04] <danko123456> what do you speak?
[08:04] <danko123456> espanol?
[08:04] <SITEC> IM SPEAK SPANISH
[08:04] <more> lol
[08:04] <SITEC> SORRY
[08:04] <danko123456> join #ubuntu-es
[08:04] <danko123456> no need to be sorry
[08:04] <Gianmaria> hi guys, when I try to start in.tftpd I get this error message in logs cannot bind to local socket: Address already in use, any ideas? Thank you
[08:04] <SITEC> OK TANKHS
[08:05] <danko123456> de nada
[08:05] <dell500> how do i find out what a certain file is through term?
[08:05] <danko123456> more info, dell
[08:05] <jeroen_> you mean like properties?
[08:06] <danko123456> color help....
[08:06] <danko123456> colors.
[08:07] <danko123456> they tell you what the file is...
[08:07] <danko123456> when you ls
[08:07] <danko123456> opening scripts in vi is helpfull if you can read that.
[08:07] <bigbill52a> is there anything available like truecrypt for windows
[08:07] <bigbill52a> ?
[08:07] <jeroen_> what is truecrypt
[08:08] <danko123456> :)
[08:08] <YscO> encryption program
[08:08] <YscO> :)
[08:08] <jeroen_> well, you have gpg
[08:08] <bigbill52a> transparant encrypted drives
[08:08] <jeroen_> I don't know about encrypted drives
[08:09] <bigbill52a> truecrypt is free for windows...
[08:09] <bigbill52a> 2000 2003 and xp
[08:09] <danko123456> try sf.net
[08:09] <danko123456> there is a search bar
[08:10] <bigbill52a> you encrypt a file and then mount it as if it was a regular drive
[08:10] <more> hmm that gnome look site is down :/
[08:11] <bigbill52a> i can only find the one for windows..from sound forge
[08:11] <danko123456> nope, I was just there
[08:11] <airbus> echo( "Hello World!!!" );
[08:11] <airbus> hi
[08:11] <airbus> haha
[08:11] <danko123456> http://www.gnome-look.org/
[08:11] <danko123456> hi, airbus
[08:11] <danko123456> :)
[08:12] <more> well when i click on a theme it doesn't load futher
[08:12] <danko123456> you have a pop up blocker?
[08:12] <danko123456> using firefox?
[08:12] <more> yep
[08:12] <more> but it doesn't say a popup
[08:13] <danko123456> try enablilng popups for that site
[08:13] <danko123456> edit, prefs
[08:14] <more> ok
[08:14] <danko123456> try, that may work, I know they are pop ups, the little previews...
[08:15] <airbus> anyone know where i should put a skin for xmms?
[08:15] <airbus> /usr/bin/xmms is just one file
[08:15] <danko123456> right
[08:15] <jeroen_> ~/.xmms/themes (or something similar)
[08:16] <danko123456> ~/.xmms, or something like that
[08:16] <danko123456> right
[08:16] <danko123456> let me see
[08:16] <danko123456> ~/.xmms/skins
[08:16] <airbus> this is my first morning using linux, lastnight was my first time touching it
[08:16] <danko123456> put the skin in there
[08:16] <more> now the site down :/
[08:16] <danko123456> and then load it from the gui
[08:16] <airbus> so what is ~/.xmms
[08:16] <ivoks> hi
[08:16] <danko123456> a hidden xmms config folder in your home folder
[08:17] <karljp> a directory
[08:17] <ivoks> zijew
[08:17] <jeroen_> ~ means /home/username
[08:17] <jeroen_> where username is the current user's nam
[08:17] <jeroen_> *name
[08:18] <danko123456> hi ioks
[08:18] <danko123456> you espanol?
[08:18] <ivoks> danko123456 zdravo
[08:18] <jeroen_> you can make .blabla files visible in nautilus with [ctrl]  + [h] 
[08:18] <danko123456> no,  remember youu now
[08:18] <danko123456> :)_
[08:18] <more> art.gnome.org is also nice
[08:18] <danko123456> nautilus is your folder viewer
[08:19] <ivoks> GPL Sued For "Software Price Fixing" - LOL someone is brainless
[08:19] <danko123456> heh
[08:19] <danko123456> there is a soccer game in a alf hour
[08:19] <danko123456> champs league
[08:20] <ShadowRage> okay
[08:20] <ShadowRage> WTF
[08:20] <danko123456> exactly
[08:20] <ShadowRage> why does ubuntu want to upgrade stuff that is available on cd or has already been installed?
[08:20] <ShadowRage> 280 mb worth of stuff
[08:20] <ivoks> http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1033/ - i like this one
[08:21] <airbus> is there anyway i can get an Address Bar in my folder viewer ?
[08:21] <ShadowRage> and xfree86 stuff
[08:21] <ShadowRage> which I dont need in hoary
[08:21] <shido6> what can I use to screencapture in ubuntu
[08:21] <shido6> no screenshot
[08:21] <more> wow the theming egine is pretty l33t from gnome ;)
[08:21] <shido6> but to start and record what I do on my screen
[08:21] <danko123456> there is a screenshot in the system menu
[08:22] <KriegGoD> can anyone help me with proftpd ? im trying to start it but it's complaining.. "unable to set uid to 65534, current uid: 1000"
[08:22] <airbus> ya thats what i was thinking, he wants vid tho
[08:22] <danko123456> wow, nit sure
[08:22] <more> danko123456 send me a screenshot of your gnome ;)
[08:22] <ghetek1> I'm on a mac, i dont know what type but i know its a slot loader.  i put in the live cd but it doesnt give me a gui. it says it has problems finding my display. any help would be much appreciated
[08:22] <airbus> anyone know if i can get an Address Bar in nautilus
[08:23] <usual> aimaz, use the browser
[08:23] <danko123456> which Mac?
[08:23] <more> wanna see my screen?
[08:23] <danko123456> sure
[08:23] <ghetek1> its an imac
[08:23] <usual> aimaz, applications > system tools> File Browser
[08:23] <Fish-Face> Is it possible to assume admin rights in nautilus, without restarting?
[08:24] <ShadowRage> also, why cant I use non ubuntu repositories now?
[08:24] <ShadowRage> It's just outright telling me I cant use them
[08:24] <usual> Fish-Face, you could sudo nautilus
[08:24] <karljp> telling you how?
[08:24] <danko123456> thats the milk theme
[08:24] <more> yep
[08:24] <Fish-Face> usual, without restarting nautilus?
[08:25] <usual> Fish-Face, I think, let me try
[08:25] <more> well i go boot back to xp;)
[08:25] <more> then everything is gone
[08:25] <usual> Fish-Face, yeah it worked
[08:25] <usual> Fish-Face, what do you need root for in nautilus
[08:25] <more> ill cya
[08:25] <danko123456> bye
[08:25] <KriegGoD> anyone?
[08:26] <b0ol> hi, which repository do i have to add to get w32codecs?
[08:26] <ghetek1> it says cant connect to x server
[08:26] <Fish-Face> usual, just conveniently copying files
[08:26] <aimaz> usual, ?
[08:26] <usual> Fish-Face, too and from where?
[08:26] <usual> aimaz, ?
 aimaz, applications > system tools> File Browser
[08:26] <Fish-Face> usual, /fc3/usr/share/backgrounds to /usr/share/backgrounds
[08:26] <Fish-Face> Sure, I can use a terminal, but it'd be nice to use nautilus :)
[08:26] <usual> aimaz, nautilus with an address bar
[08:27] <ShadowRage> can anyone help me?
[08:27] <Fish-Face> oh, sorry, I meant, "without starting a new nautilus"
[08:27] <aimaz> usual, hmm *scratch head* ok
[08:27] <b0ol> hi, which repository do i have to add to get w32codecs?
[08:27] <usual> Fish-Face, you might find something like sudo cp /fc3/usr/share/backgrounds/* /usr/share/backgrounds
[08:27] <usual> easier and quicker
[08:27] <danko123456> ShadowRage: the marillat ones?
[08:27] <usual> aimaz, you asked
[08:27] <karljp> don't cp!
[08:27] <karljp> ln!
[08:27] <aimaz> usual, I asked nothing
[08:27] <ShadowRage> danko123456: yes
[08:27] <Fish-Face> karljp, believe me, it's cp.
[08:27] <ShadowRage> daniels: and some others
[08:28] <danko123456> ShadowRage: nope, cant help, same thing here
[08:28] <danko123456> :)
[08:28] <usual> aimaz, sorry
[08:28] <usual> aimaz, damn xchat nick comp
[08:28] <usual> ment airbus
[08:28] <ShadowRage> so they're now locking in ubuntu users.
[08:28] <aimaz> ah np
[08:28] <ShadowRage> cute.
[08:28] <Fish-Face> usual, I guess it's not possible to just assume superuserness in the middle of a nautilus session, then
[08:28] <aimaz> just a bit confused as to why after cleaning my kitchen I had messages on here
[08:28] <karljp> shadow, what are you talking about?
[08:28] <danko123456> no, its not that
[08:28] <ShadowRage> now I cant install nicotine
[08:28] <danko123456> the marilat repo wont let you int
[08:28] <karljp> how are yo ubeing prevented from adding nonubuntu app sources?
[08:28] <danko123456> there is a fix
[08:29] <usual> Fish-Face, you could however make a shortcut ont he desktop or a menu item in gnome to do gksudo nautilus --browser
[08:29] <danko123456> try finding out how to get the key for the marillat
[08:29] <b0ol> hi, which repository do i have to add to get w32codecs?
[08:29] <danko123456> try enabling universe, multiverse, and security
[08:29] <dell500> are ms fonts (ie Tahoma, Verdana) accessible to ubuntu?
[08:29] <Fish-Face> usual, certainly (although it's browser by default)
[08:29] <hac> What is the best desktop enveroniment for a slow pc?Gnome or Kde?
[08:29] <danko123456> im out to school, see ya later.
[08:29] <b0ol> danko123456: @ which source?
[08:29] <Fish-Face> Know Your Gconf!
[08:29] <b0ol> o.O
[08:29] <usual> Fish-Face, well that would be the best graphical way to do it
[08:29] <usual> Fish-Face, use gksudo
[08:29] <ShadowRage> also, I cant get newer mp3 libs
[08:29] <ShadowRage> I cant play mp3's
[08:30] <Fish-Face> usual, yeah... hmm, pity
[08:30] <ShadowRage> this is really pissing me off
[08:30] <danko123456> dell500: yes, they aer, not sure how to add them
[08:30] <lexxan> hac, fluxbox
[08:30] <lexxan> i guess that's a wm :/
[08:30] <Fish-Face> Now I just need a special "superuser filebrowser" icon :P
[08:30] <danko123456> install the w32 codecs, ShadowRage
[08:30] <dell500> i'm just trying to get steam to work
[08:30] <danko123456> and the gstreamer libs
[08:30] <usual> Fish-Face, even in windows you would have to do Run As or hold down shit on a right click to get run as, to do admin tasks
[08:30] <b0ol> danko123456:
[08:30] <b0ol> how to get w32codecs
[08:30] <b0ol> :/
[08:30] <ShadowRage> danko123456: ...for mp3's...?
[08:30] <airbus> danko
[08:31] <lexxan> b0ol
[08:31] <ShadowRage> why not libmp3 or libmp3123?
[08:31] <danko123456> this page will tell yiou, the ubuntuans on this channel dont lie this site much, though...
[08:31] <danko123456> http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:31] <lexxan> ?? marillathoary
[08:31] <airbus> what is the absolute path for ~/.xmms
[08:31] <[uhelp] > marillathoary: To quickly add the marillat repository enter this in console - echo deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list - Now type sudo apt-get update
[08:31] <JoKyX> b0ol, try marillat repositories
[08:31] <airbus> i dont know what the ~ does
[08:31] <hac> lexxan; i never try it.Its better than xfce?
[08:31] <lexxan> then apt-get install w32codecs
[08:31] <danko123456> hey, lexxan
[08:31] <b0ol> can you give me link pls? :>
[08:31] <danko123456> :)
[08:31] <lexxan> hac, just minimal
[08:31] <b0ol> address i mean
[08:31] <b0ol> sry >:
[08:31] <usual> airbus, ~ is another way of saying your home dir
[08:31] <danko123456> http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:31] <hac> lexxan: tnx
[08:31] <b0ol> thnx
[08:31] <usual> airbus, like /home/airbus/.xmms
[08:31] <Funraiser> does someone know a website to find any files on newsgroups? To check all the newsgroups at once for a specific file?
[08:31] <thully> does somebody know how I would check what my DPI is setto in X, and change this if incorrect?
[08:32] <ShadowRage> hoary is very broken
[08:32] <danko123456> not really
[08:32] <usual> ?
[08:32] <ghetek1> so if no one knows how to help me with mac should i try another version?
[08:32] <usual> whats broken in hoary
[08:32] <Funraiser> hoary is doing funny things to me
[08:32] <ShadowRage> mp3's dvd's
[08:32] <Funraiser> compared to warty
[08:32] <danko123456> not sure, ghetek1, I have a iBook g4, and works fine
[08:33] <Funraiser> so anyone knows how to check all newsgroups at once?
[08:33] <airbus> danko123456, do you know the absolute path of ~/.xmms
[08:33] <Nechushtan> anyone have the direct link to download java for amd64?
[08:33] <danko123456> whats your user name?
[08:33] <usual> yay evolution is back in breezy
[08:33] <ghetek1> my user name?
[08:33] <danko123456> no, airbus
[08:33] <thully> ShadowRage: are you talking about packages from marillat?
[08:33] <Mellar> Nechushtan: you cant install gnus java, or download Java from suns website
[08:34] <ghetek1> oh ok
[08:34] <jeroen_> Hoary is not broken
[08:34] <Funraiser> nobody knows about newsgoups here??
[08:34] <danko123456> ghetek1: not sure, mine worked, ee those stars beside some nicks?
[08:34] <ShadowRage> ubuntu is getting more complicated with each release
[08:34] <dell500> how do you find out what fonts are installed??
[08:34] <danko123456> they may know wsomething, but are not here now
[08:34] <jeroen_> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:34] <airbus> Funraiser, i know newsgroups but thats not how they work
[08:34] <ShadowRage> thully: oh and the fact it's now requiring me to download 280 mb worth of packages that should have been upgraded off of cd.
[08:34] <danko123456> airbus: whats your user name
[08:34] <ShadowRage> and saying I'm still on warty
[08:34] <danko123456> Ill tell you the absolute path
[08:34] <ShadowRage> Kernel: Linux 2.6.10-5-386 | Distro: unknown | CPU: Pentium @ 399 MHz | Mem usage: 183.3/314.3 MB (58%) | Swap usage: 8.5/333.6 MB (3%) | Disk usage(Maxtor 2B020H1): 4.7/18.2 GB (26%) | Uptime: 13 hrs 57 mins
[08:34] <lexxan> you have slow internet or something
[08:35] <airbus> airbus
[08:35] <Absenth> I don't suppose anyone here has done anything with mind mapping?
[08:35] <airbus> /home/airbus/...
[08:35] <danko123456> ok, /home/airbus/.xmms
[08:35] <thully> ShadowRage - do you have the CD in your apt sources?
[08:35] <danko123456> go ls -l in your home dir.
[08:35] <Nechushtan> Mellar: why not?
[08:35] <Funraiser> airbus, well i know at least one website where one can check for a specific file on many newsgroups at once
[08:35] <thully> Also - remember that universe packages will need to be updated off the net - which may account for the 280 MB
[08:35] <airbus> danko123456, what does the ~ do then?
[08:35] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: i know some newsgroups stuff
[08:36] <danko123456> it is a shell variable
[08:36] <[CJ] Invert> hello, is there a way for me to read files on my NTFS (windows) partition with my live Ubuntu CD (gnoppix)????
[08:36] <airbus> funraiser, ya but thats downlaod all the newsgroups seprately, they just kepe track of them
[08:36] <lexxan> ?? mount ntfs
[08:36] <[uhelp] > mount[x] : No defenition found for word.
[08:36] <lexxan> ?? mountntfs
[08:36] <[uhelp] > mountntfs: To learn about mounting windows partitions (ntfs, fat) see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[08:36] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, do you know a website where one can check many newsgroups at once for a specific file?
[08:36] <[CJ] Invert> ty ty
[08:36] <airbus> Funraiser, you need to add all your groups in your group list, and then just scan them and wait
[08:36] <Mellar> Nechushtan: hu?
[08:36] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: newzbin.com
[08:36] <airbus> funraiser, www.newzbin.com
[08:36] <Nechushtan> Mellar: java for amd64
[08:36] <Funraiser> another one?
[08:37] <danko123456> it gets replaced with what your user that you are using's home folder path
[08:37] <Funraiser> i checked this one already thanks
[08:37] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: what type of file?
[08:37] <airbus> Funraiser, thats probably the best one
[08:37] <airbus> Funraiser, what client are you using
[08:38] <RuffianSoldier> how is PPP in Hoary?
[08:38] <danko123456> k, im out to school
[08:38] <danko123456> bye now!
[08:38] <Funraiser> airbus, pan
[08:38] <airbus> thanks danko123456  later
[08:38] <Echylo> where can I find the log files of proftpd server ?
[08:38] <Echylo> or at least some information about who is visiting it
[08:38] <dell500> anyone here know how to get Tahoma font on Ubuntu??
[08:38] <Funraiser> airbus, i know pan sucks but nget is too hard to run
[08:38] <Nechushtan> Echylo: /var/log should have an access or auth log
[08:38] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: nzbget
[08:39] <ShadowRage> thully: yes
[08:39] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, there is a gui?
[08:39] <danko123456_away> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[08:39] <danko123456_away> there dell500
[08:39] <airbus> Funraiser, both are news to me, i havent even been using linux for 24hrs
[08:39] <dell500> i did that
[08:39] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: no, but its a simple CLI
[08:39] <dell500> does that include Tahoma??
[08:39] <danko123456_away> that likely installs tru type ms fonts
[08:39] <airbus> so i dont know all the names of the programs yet
[08:39] <danko123456_away> try google to see.
[08:39] <dell500> i don't think Tahoma is included
[08:39] <ShadowRage> oh and ad a working dialer in warty
[08:39] <karljp> it probably does include tahoma, tahoma is pretty bog standard.
[08:39] <dell500> or at least this thread on ubuntu forums is incorrect
[08:40] <ShadowRage> but in hoary is become some new applet that won't work
[08:40] <dell500> is ther any way to find out what fonts are isntalled??
[08:40] <ShadowRage> and to do anything it requires root
[08:40] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, i'll try
[08:40] <karljp> thought it appears not have, I guess you';re right,
[08:40] <ShadowRage> constantly
[08:40] <karljp> not tahoma in mstcorefonts
[08:40] <danko123456_away> does not include it
[08:40] <ShadowRage> modem_lights applet was a lot better
[08:40] <thully> ShadowRage: yes - Hoary has a broken PPP applet - install gnome-ppp from universe and use that instead (or else just use the command line)
[08:40] <ShadowRage> thully: doesn't appear on my list
[08:41] <danko123456_away> this is the first google hit for tahome linux http://www.linux.com/howtos/Font-HOWTO/fonts.shtml
[08:41] <danko123456_away> k, Im away anyhow...
[08:41] <dell500> thanks dank
[08:41] <danko123456_away> hah
[08:41] <danko123456_away> welcome
[08:41] <danko123456_away> i try
[08:41] <karljp> you can always just copy tahoma.ttf from a widows machine to usr/share/fonts/*
[08:42] <ShadowRage> argh
[08:42] <ShadowRage> figure this crap out later
[08:42] <ShadowRage> bbl
[08:43] <dell500> karljp, awesome, that's what i'm gonna do lol
[08:43] <karljp> it's dubious legally I believe.
[08:43] <karljp> but it's pretty low on the list of things to get upset about
[08:43] <_SMP_> Hi, I'm trying to update (within eclipse) in Ubuntu on amd64 and I get an error stating that "http://update.eclipse.org/updates/3.0/plugins/org.eclipse.platform.source.linux.gtk.amd64_3.0.2.jar]  Unable to retrieve remote reference" Is anyone running Eclipse 3.0.2 on Ubuntu? I know it sounds like an eclipse problem, but their chan is totally dead...
[08:43] <dell500> it's legal as long as you have windows
[08:43] <dell500> a legit copy that is
[08:44] <dell500> i'm pretty sure my windows partition is mounted, but i don't know where
[08:44] <karljp> I'm not sure if it's legal to use it outside your windows though
[08:44] <pablo928> Hello, i've got video problems again. Very sluggish 3d.  It was fine when i loaded hoary, but just quit! Help please.
[08:44] <karljp> like I said, it's not something I'd get too upset about.
[08:45] <airbus> dell500, its probably not mounted if you dont know where considering you have to create the folder for it to mount to first
[08:45] <dell500> nm, dun fo-got to mount lol
[08:45] <dell500> "You are correct sah!"
[08:45] <unperson> Hi, I upgraded from Warty to hoary recently and periodically since the upgrade my machine grinds to a halt.  I hadn't figured out why until just now I notices that top shows 0 k for swap (free or used).  My swap partition does not show up when I run df, though it is in my /etc/fstab.  Anyone know what's going on here and how I get my system to use my swap again?
[08:45] <airbus> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/* /path/to/mountfolder
[08:46] <usual> unperson, maybe swapon
[08:47] <dell500> doesn't it need some kinda of block number
[08:47] <dell500> to start at or something
[08:47] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, do u use nzbget often?
[08:47] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: yea
[08:47] <Nechushtan> well, I use nzbq which launches nzbget
[08:47] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, it's works with big files too?
[08:48] <Nechushtan> yea, so far no issues for me
[08:48] <edsuom> How can I get deeper into CUPS admin than the Gnome printing tool? The web interface seems disabled.
[08:48] <Xappe> edsuom: /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[08:48] <Nechushtan> edsuom: the conf files
[08:48] <karljp> anyone know how to change the umask used when my USB2 harddrive gets mounted?  it has no fstab entry
[08:48] <airbus> where do i get nzbget ?
[08:48] <airbus> or nzbq?
[08:48] <bassMonke> hi, I have a large quantity of images I'd like to put on my website, the problem is that they take up way too much space so i'd like to resize them... Is there a program for ubuntu that convieniently could batch-resize jpegs in several folders like irfan view for windows does?
[08:48] <unperson> usual:  Checking out the man page...  Any idea why the upgrade made it start ignoring the swap?
[08:49] <Nechushtan> nzbget is a sourceforge project
[08:49] <airbus> karljp, you have to add a fstab entry
[08:49] <karljp> airbus :(
[08:49] <airbus> karljp shouldnt be too tough
[08:49] <karljp> I guess I don't chnage the volume name of that drive very often.
[08:50] <karljp> no, it just gets rid of some of it's automaticness.
[08:50] <airbus> open file browser, and browse /dev
[08:50] <airbus> find the name of the device
[08:50] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, i can't install it, missing libs as usual
[08:50] <airbus> and sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/devicename /path/to/mount
[08:50] <usual> unperson, no:(
[08:51] <unperson> Hmmm...I gues I'll just try swapon -a and see what happens.
[08:51] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: have you tried installing the required lib-dev's?
[08:51] <karljp> how did you know it was ntfs :)
[08:51] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, no
[08:52] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: ;-)
[08:52] <dead^^> suomalaisia?
[08:53] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, one has to compile the libs first before compiling the app...no wonder M$ is number one, anyway i'll just Pan for now, thanks for your help Nechushtan
[08:53] <unperson> usual:  Ok, any idea how I set it to use the swap on boot?
[08:53] <usual> unperson, if you go to applications > system tools > System monitor
[08:53] <usual> then click resources
[08:53] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: you don't have to compile the libs, just apt-get install them
[08:53] <usual> does it say your using swap
[08:54] <airbus> karljp, most drives now are ntfs. fat32 is prety much gone
[08:54] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: the apt model is better than the MS model if its packaged for deb
[08:54] <karljp> airbus: sure, but I wish it was fat, cos THEN I COULD ACTUALLY USE IT
[08:54] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, like for libxml2 I type apt-get libxml2 ?
[08:55] <airbus> ya but its useless in windows then
[08:55] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: apt-get install libxml2-dev
[08:55] <Funraiser> really
[08:55] <karljp> airbus: it's not useless, windows can still r/w vfat,
[08:55] <Funraiser> lemme check
[08:55] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: do you have tab completion enabled?
[08:55] <karljp> you just lose some of the benefits of ntfs
[08:55] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, yes
[08:56] <Nechushtan> use it with apt-get install it'll list matching packages
[08:56] <unperson> usual:  Hmm... "swapon: /dev/hda1: Invalid argument"
[08:56] <unperson> that's ood
[08:56] <unperson> odd, even.
[08:56] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, i see k i'll try
[08:57] <tanek> everything would be solved if crappy windows just started using reiserfs :D
[08:57] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: theres a few other dev's it might need, i don't remember off hand
[08:57] <usual> unperson, is this just an ubuntu box?
[08:57] <ivoks> hi ho
[08:57] <ssam> is there an ETA on the ubuntu hoary shipit cds?
[08:57] <ivoks> icecream! mmmmmm
[08:57] <Nechushtan> tanek: that would be nice =)
[08:57] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, it needs uulib
[08:57] <jeroen_> ssam, no
[08:58] <t3rror> well, i am pretty satisfied with vnc tunnelled tttttttttttttttthrough ssh
[08:58] <jeroen_> tank, there is an ext3 reader for windows
[08:58] <t3rror> maybe
[08:58] <t3rror> haha
[08:58] <tanek> sure would :P and its free, they can use it if they want to :P
[08:58] <t3rror> too many t's
[08:58] <jeroen_> tanek, maybe there's also reiserfs reader
[08:58] <unperson> usual:  Well, there's a version of Windows on here, though it's really just a vestigal appendage these days.
[08:58] <ssam> jeroen_ fair enough
[08:58] <ssam> jeroen_ thanks
[08:58] <tanek> jeroen_: there is?
[08:58] <usual> unperson, but windows is usually on /dev/hda1
[08:58] <tanek> cool
[08:58] <unperson> usual:  Not in this case, though.
[08:58] <usual> unperson, k
[08:59] <airbus> funraiser
[08:59] <tanek> see ya round, gotta eat ;)
[08:59] <Funraiser> airbus, yes?
[08:59] <airbus> uulib is in the nzbget foler
[08:59] <airbus> im trying to install this too, and i dont know whta to do
[08:59] <t3rror> what would be the easiest way to make a new partition off free space on /?
[08:59] <unperson> usual:  But as I said, this was working with warty.  The only thing that changed was I changed my repositories to hoary and upgraded.
[08:59] <airbus> Funraiser, is there a readme you are following somwhere
[08:59] <t3rror> fdisk?
[08:59] <Funraiser> airbus, there is the readme file
[08:59] <airbus> where
[09:00] <Funraiser> airbus, and Nechushtan is helping
[09:00] <Funraiser> airbus, did u download the source?
[09:00] <airbus> wherer is the readme?
[09:00] <airbus> yes
[09:00] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: u get libuu-dev installed?
[09:01] <edsuom> Why did the Ubuntu cups team decide that web admin wasn't useful?
[09:01] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, not yet i forgot the -dev thing...
[09:02] <jeroen_> tanek, there is something for ext3
[09:02] <jeroen_> tanek, search for reiserfs+windows; you might get lucky ;)
[09:02] <Funraiser> airbus, if u extract the files it's there
[09:03] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, actually it's uulib,so that would be sudo apt-get install uulib-dev?
[09:04] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: i believe the package is libuu-dev though
[09:04] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, k
[09:05] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, it is it's working
[09:05] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, then there is libstdc++   (usually part of g++)
[09:06] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, don't know if it's already included in Ubuntu...
[09:06] <airbus> why cant they just give u .tar.gz wtf
[09:06] <airbus> ok i have ot go eat im starving
[09:06] <ivoks> :)
[09:06] <Funraiser> ciao
[09:06] <airbus> does anyone know if u can apply for job at best buy online?
[09:06] <airbus> if so URL plz !!!
[09:06] <airbus> brb
[09:06] <sarom> How is ubuntu pronounced? you-bountou?
[09:07] <Funraiser> i think so yes
[09:07] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: you try make to see if its happy?
[09:08] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, shouldn't I install libstdc++ first?
[09:08] <Fackamato> anyone familiar with ipv6?
[09:08] <SaMRoX> I want tu install GNOME-Art, the setup says Setup
[09:08] <SaMRoX> -----
[09:08] <SaMRoX>   Run as root:
[09:08] <SaMRoX>   ruby setup.rb
[09:08] <SaMRoX> but when I write ruby it says commando not found
[09:08] <SaMRoX> how i solve this?
[09:09] <karljp> dpkg -l | grep ruby shows whether you have ruby installed or not?
[09:09] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: i think its installed with the base system
[09:09] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, i'll ./configure to see if some libs are missing
[09:09] <karljp> do you believe you have ruby?
[09:09] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: yea
[09:09] <karljp> if you don't have have ruby, just try apt-get install ruby and then come back and do ruby setup.rb
[09:09] <SaMRoX> I installed ruby from synaptic, but it stills doesnt work
[09:09] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, and what about libncurses?
[09:09] <Funraiser> included?
[09:09] <karljp> so you can't run ruby from the cli
[09:10] <SaMRoX> but should i do?
[09:10] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: dunno, I'm using 0.1.2 which doesn't use ncurses (no server)
[09:10] <Funraiser> k
[09:11] <SaMRoX> ok, solved
[09:11] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: libncurses5-dev if needed
[09:11] <usual> SaMRoX, what was wrong
[09:12] <SaMRoX> i just reinstalled ruby
[09:12] <airbus> sudo apt-get install FOOD
[09:12] <airbus> E: Couldn't find package FOOD
[09:12] <airbus> haha
[09:12] <guupsta> yet we hunger
[09:13] <airbus> i am so hungry
[09:13] <Nechushtan> ugh, why can't i open the display via ssh...
[09:13] <airbus> all we have is miniwheats
[09:13] <Seveas> Nechushtan, do you use ssh -X?
[09:13] <guupsta> i'm off to cook some noodles :(
[09:13] <slappy14> set ur display
[09:13] <guupsta> -->
[09:13] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, k
[09:13] <slappy14> xhost +machine
[09:13] <Seveas> and have X forwarding enabled on the server...
[09:13] <Nechushtan> Seveas: yea, the client is set up to use -X via ssh_config and it worked before I installed amd64
[09:15] <Nechushtan> Seveas: yea, it looks to be enabled for the server too
[09:16] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, the ./configure seem to work, but i'll install libncurses anyway
[09:17] <karljp> /dev/sda        /media/backups  ntfs    ro,user,umask=0333  0   0 << how come this is still mounting with the directory perms set to rx---------?
[09:18] <karljp> is it trying to use the ntfs perms?
[09:18] <karljp> I want it to come up as -r-wxr-xr-x
[09:18] <karljp> so everyone can access it (namely www-data)
[09:18] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, can I ./configure twice?
[09:18] <karljp> you can ./configure as often as you like.
[09:18] <Funraiser> k
[09:18] <karljp> you can make as often as you like
[09:19] <karljp> you can make install to reinstall the newly made/configured vesrion as often as you like.
[09:19] <vaiux> karljp, 0222
[09:19] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, make install is always with sudo?
[09:19] <karljp> umask values are upside down aren't they?
[09:19] <Funraiser> or karljp
[09:19] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: yea, sudo make install
[09:19] <vaiux> karljp, 777-222=555
[09:20] <Funraiser> k
[09:20] <airbus_afk> karljp, you can try umask=002 also
[09:20] <karljp> make install is with sudo normally, but if you configured a --prefix, to put it somewhere under home, then you might not need to
[09:20] <airbus_afk> some guy in here last night told me 002 and it works great
[09:20] <Nechushtan> yea, sudo is only needed it it is going to install it into a directory only writeable by root
[09:21] <dell500> what does this mean?? Fontconfig error: "~/.fonts.conf", line 1: no element found
[09:21] <dell500> it happens when i open the cvscedega config
[09:21] <airbus_afk> dell500, ~/.font is in /home/username/.fonts.conf
[09:21] <airbus_afk> its obviously not found
[09:22] <Funraiser> airbus, are u going to the le bourget show in june to see the airbus a380?
[09:22] <Funraiser> it's gonna fly
[09:22] <airbus> haha what is airbus a380
[09:23] <airbus> airbus just sounds funny to me, thats why i got the name
[09:23] <Funraiser> airbus, u do know that airbus is a company right?
[09:23] <airbus> had no idea
[09:23] <osmandemirhan> hi, what is the debian equivalent of "rpm -qf filename"?
[09:23] <vaiux> airbus, you must live under a rock
[09:24] <airbus> lol
[09:24] <airbus> i live at my computer desk (if thats close to the same thing)
[09:24] <Funraiser> airbus, airbus is the company that sells more jets than boeing, u know what boieng is?
[09:24] <Funraiser> lol
[09:24] <airbus> ya i know boeing
[09:24] <jeroen_> osmandermirhan, if you tell us what -qf does
[09:24] <ivoks> lol
[09:24] <ivoks> airbus rocks
[09:25] <Funraiser> airbus rulez
[09:25] <airbus> i know i do !
[09:25] <ivoks> EU will eat USA ;)
[09:25] <Funraiser> lol
[09:25] <schasi> ivoks: sure it will
[09:25] <mifune> airbus: http://www.airbus.com/A380/seeing/indexminisite.aspx
[09:25] <vaiux> jeroen_, tells you what package a file belongs too
[09:25] <airbus> EU rocks, ill agree with that
[09:25] <Funraiser> well i hope EU will not eat USA,competition is good
[09:25] <ivoks> schasi well, while bush is president, i'm sure in US disaster :)
[09:26] <schasi> ivoks: You may be right
[09:26] <osmandemirhan> -q for query and -f for file. this commands gives filename is belongs to xxx.rpm package
[09:26] <Funraiser> airbus got that good because of boieng
[09:26] <tanek> bush himself is the definition of disaster
[09:26] <schasi> But even as lazy dog, he may improve things compared to his last period
[09:26] <schasi> It is said
[09:26] <mifune> someone here that wants to help me making my soundblaster 16 card work?
[09:26] <ivoks> dollar is so low... it'w worthless
[09:26] <Nechushtan> whoa, leave for a minute and everyone gets political...
[09:26] <Funraiser> lol
[09:26] <airbus> lol
[09:27] <Funraiser> airbus started it all!
[09:27] <ivoks> only 4 years ago it was 10KN for 1$, now is 5KN for 1$
[09:27] <airbus> haha
[09:27] <airbus> my NAME started it all... not myself
[09:27] <airbus> haha
[09:27] <Funraiser> what's KN?
[09:27] <Funraiser> Kubuntu currency?
[09:27] <jeroen_> yeah, do that!
[09:27] <ivoks> Funraiser :))
[09:27] <jeroen_> Funraiser, that's just what I thought :)
[09:27] <osmandemirhan> actually, I want to find a command gives me /path/to/filename extracted from xxx package
[09:27] <ivoks> Funraiser kuna - croatian currency
[09:27] <Funraiser> oh
[09:27] <holycow> lol
[09:27] <Funraiser> i thought u had the euro already
[09:28] <airbus> KN stands for KousaNd as in "One Kousand Dollars"
[09:28] <holycow> that new airbusss looks like a recipe for disaster
[09:28] <Funraiser> lol
[09:28] <tanek> in swedish kroner the dollar has gone from 11 to like 6-7 in the last year
[09:28] <airbus> lol
[09:28] <ivoks> Funraiser not yet...
[09:28] <jeroen_> Dollars are worthless
[09:28] <holycow> i'm thinking they are trying to figure out how to kill more people simultaneously
[09:28] <ivoks> Funraiser policitcs :) u see, Romaina and Bulgaria are ready for EU, but Croatia isn't :)
[09:28] <SaMRoX> how do I set to auto-connect on disconnection in xchat?
[09:28] <airbus> holycow, whats wrong w/ new airbus
[09:28] <tanek> euro went from 0.9 dollar to 1.5 :P
[09:28] <ivoks> Funraiser u would lough for years if u would visite all three countries :)
[09:28] <holycow> airbus, better way to kill more people simultaneously
[09:29] <tanek> lol
[09:29] <airbus> lol
[09:29] <holycow> ivoks, your croatian?
[09:29] <Xappe> tanek: hey, kronor not kroner ;)
[09:29] <Funraiser> 800 passengers at once
[09:29] <airbus> holycow, can u imagine that as their slogan:
[09:29] <Nechushtan> ugh, why aren't my ATA devices being seen now...
[09:29] <ivoks> holycow yes
[09:29] <holycow> Funraiser, :) just wait until you see that thing dissapear into the side of a mountain
[09:29] <holycow> brilliant thinking
[09:29] <tanek> Xappe: tss, "rikssvenska" sucks;) sry
[09:29] <airbus> "Airbus, a better way to kill more people simultaneously"
[09:29] <ssam> is there enough oil left on the planet to get an a380 off the ground?
[09:29] <airbus> lol
[09:29] <holycow> airbus, rofl
[09:29] <holycow> haha :)
[09:29] <airbus> hahaha
[09:29] <holycow> airbus, the funny thing it has a ring to it :)
[09:30] <Xappe> tanek: damn stockholmare
[09:30] <holycow> kinda catchy
[09:30] <airbus> it does
[09:30] <tanek> Xappe: yeah, damn them all :D
[09:30] <airbus> we should try to sell it to them
[09:30] <ssam> and will 3 come along at once
[09:30] <tanek> lol :D
[09:30] <Funraiser> holycow, but u do know that travelling by airplane is the safest way?
[09:30] <Xappe> tanek: ahaha
[09:30] <SaMRoX> how do I set to auto-connect on disconnection in xchat?
[09:30] <tanek> :P
[09:30] <holycow> ivoks, oh i see what your currency stuff posting was, your currency is now stronger against the dollar eh?
[09:30] <jeroen_> smarox, IRC -> bla bla
[09:30] <ivoks> holycow nope... it's 5kn for 1$
[09:30] <holycow> Funraiser, statistically yeah, i was just kidden
[09:31] <Nechushtan> ok, anyone know how to get ubuntu to see ide drives?
[09:31] <Funraiser> k
[09:31] <jeroen_> samrox, IRC -> blabla
[09:31] <holycow> i'm sure the airbus will be fine
[09:31] <SaMRoX> thx jeroen_
[09:31] <holycow> ivoks, but you said it used to be 10k to $1
[09:31] <Funraiser> k
[09:31] <Xappe> think I need to learn screen soon, would be grat to have centericq and irssi in splitscreen
[09:31] <ivoks> holycow euro didn't change rate, only $... it's going down every month
[09:31] <ssam> nechushtan, it should just see them
[09:31] <ivoks> holycow yes
[09:31] <holycow> that means you doubled the value of k, or halves the value of $
[09:31] <mifune> someone here that wants to help me making my soundblaster 16 card work?
[09:31] <holycow> ah okay
[09:31] <ivoks> holycow not 10k (as 10 000), but 10KN :)
[09:31] <tanek> mifune: whats the problem?
[09:31] <ssam> nechushtan, do they get /dev/sda files
[09:31] <bck> hello dudes, how can i add a second soundcard? it only shows the onboard chip
[09:32] <holycow> ivoks, i grokked :) my nomenclature sucks, i know nothing of the balkans :)
[09:32] <holycow> haha
[09:32] <Nechushtan> ssam: nope, no /dev/sd or /dev/hd
[09:32] <ivoks> holycow :)
[09:32] <holycow> what city are you in that i could google?
[09:32] <tanek> bck: there should be another /dev/dspx
[09:32] <josh42> ok, I thought i Had this licked.. I have the radeon drivers in, it shows good when I do fglrxinfo, but I just loaded Darwinia, and: 1fps in 800x600 with everything set to low.. a64 3000+, radeon 9800pro
[09:32] <mifune> tanek: it wasnt detected when i reinstalled ubuntu
[09:32] <ssam> nechushtan, hmmmm
[09:32] <tanek> mifune: it's not in /dev ?
[09:32] <ssam> have you just installed it?
[09:33] <Nechushtan> ssam: yea =) all cause i have a scsi boot drive and the installer is f-d for that
[09:33] <bck> tanek, i have no /dev/dspx
[09:33] <josh42> is there a way to check if darwinia is crazy, or if I really can't do 3d in hardware?
[09:33] <ivoks> holycow blakan is part of the world where world doesn't want to have anything to do with :)
[09:33] <airbus> any one here watch invader zim
[09:33] <mifune> tanek: ehh
[09:33] <ssam> nechushtan, is it a jumper or cable problem?
[09:33] <Nechushtan> ssam: yea, i had to unplug all the ide drives to get the installer to install the bootloader correctly
[09:33] <Nechushtan> ssam: i'm gunna reboot one more time and make sure they;re all recognized by the computer
[09:33] <DragoraN> hi
[09:33] <ssam> nechushtan, does the bios see them?
[09:34] <Thorrn4> hello!! I have a problem...I installed KDE on Ubuntu and I chose the Plastik theme but all of the applications have the Windows looks to it!!
[09:34] <tanek> mifune: do you have a /dev/dsp that's not beeing used or no /dev/dsp at all?
[09:34] <DragoraN> why i have missing alsaconf? i have alsa-utils package installed..
[09:34] <patrick> hello
[09:34] <airbus> hey patrick
[09:34] <sarom> Anyone know if I can easily go back to gnome if I didn't like kubuntu?
[09:34] <Nechushtan> Thorrn4: theres a windows theme?
[09:34] <Funraiser> airbus, so u saw the picture of the airbus A380 ? (the biggest plane ever some say, I think the Goose from Howard Hugues was bigger but not sure)
[09:34] <patrick> Does anyone know a good eMule type program for ubuntu?
[09:34] <josh42> Thorrn4: "Edit" the theme - the frames around windows and the insides of the windows are differnet parts - play around :)
[09:35] <Funraiser> patrick, amule
[09:35] <ivoks> patrick amule
[09:35] <mifune> tanek: no /dev/dsp at all
[09:35] <airbus> whats amule
[09:35] <Funraiser> patrick, www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:35] <Thorrn4> Nechushtan, I think it is called "Redmond"
[09:35] <josh42> emule clone..
[09:35] <ivoks> airbus boings new plain
[09:35] <Nechushtan> ssam: bios' sees em. but i do get a pci error at boot
[09:35] <thegreedyturtle> GPL emule clone
[09:35] <airbus> and yes Funraiser, i saw the a380
[09:35] <airbus> very large
[09:35] <airbus> what is emule (what does it do)
[09:35] <ivoks> omg
[09:35] <Funraiser> airbus, do u live on the moon?
[09:35] <Nechushtan> Thorrn4: ahh, and you switched to the plastik theme? it should be immediate
[09:36] <holycow> airbus, p2p filesharing crap that doesn't work
[09:36] <LouisJRG> Does anyone have any suggestions why my sound isn't working? I have an Audigy 2 ZS under Ubuntu 5.04 The sound works (just about) on XP and used to work on Mandrake 10.1
[09:36] <ivoks> airbus do u know what emule is?
[09:36] <tanek> hmm, maybe its something with the kernel, try another ? :P
[09:36] <airbus> Funraiser, ive been using linux for <24hrs
[09:36] <ssam> nechushtan, have you posted to the forums / mailing list with details of you chipsets
[09:36] <Thorrn4> josh42, both the theme and the window decor, are both at Plastik...it made no difference
[09:36] <josh42> airbus: same as this: http://www.emule-project.net/home/perl/help.cgi?l=1
[09:36] <holycow> ivoks, p2p file sharing crap that doesn't work
[09:36] <ivoks> airbus but emule and edonkey2000 are known things in windows world too :)
[09:36] <ivoks> holycow ?
[09:36] <Funraiser> airbus, emule is like one of the most famous app ever...
[09:36] <ivoks> not
[09:36] <ivoks> xterm is
[09:36] <josh42> Thorrn4: What happens when you change to another theme?
[09:36] <holycow> ivoks, oh sorry i thought you were asking the question :)
[09:36] <thegreedyturtle> yeah but some people don't spend a lot of time swiping files anymore
[09:36] <ivoks> :)
[09:36] <airbus> hmm i still dont know what it is
[09:37] <airbus> xterm rox!
[09:37] <Thorrn4> I did not switch to it Nechushtan. when I installed KDE it come like this
[09:37] <Funraiser> airbus, it's to download copyrighted material basically
[09:37] <ssam> isn't gtk-gnutella better for file sharing
[09:37] <ivoks> holycow i know very good what emule is... i'm fighting against it :)
[09:37] <DragoraN> can some1 help me?
[09:37] <airbus> ivoks, do u know how i can get transparent xterm
[09:37] <Nechushtan> ssam: nope, but it worked fine with my i586 ubuntu install. maybe its an amd64 thing?
[09:37] <ivoks> airbus get aterm
[09:37] <josh42> gnutella servers are a bad idea if you live in the sates
[09:37] <Funraiser> ivoks, u're fighting against it, what do u mean?
[09:37] <josh42> *states
[09:37] <ivoks> airbus or eterm
[09:37] <Nechushtan> Thorrn4: make sure to switch to the plastik theme
[09:37] <ivoks> Funraiser i'm admin in on university
[09:37] <Thorrn4> josh42, the programs stay with the Windows theme
[09:38] <holycow> ivoks, in what sense? fighting your own personal emule adiction perhaps?
[09:38] <holycow> haha!
[09:38] <ssam> dragoran, whats up
[09:38] <holycow> -_-
[09:38] <thegreedyturtle> i just don't need the intensive file-collector suite (k++, bittorrent, emule, winmx, ect ect) since i started using Open Source stuff, and that's back when i still used windows
[09:38] <ivoks> holycow great job, heh? :)
[09:38] <ssam> nechushtan, oh your an amd 64 type person
[09:38] <Thorrn4> but the Theme manager was changed to sunshine
[09:38] <josh42> Thorrn4: Looks like you get to dig through logs :)
[09:38] <holycow> haha, we are getting a lot of slavs in here today :)
[09:38] <holycow> welcome aboard dudes
[09:38] <bck> i have problems with alsa (where the **** is alsaconf?)
[09:38] <ivoks> but i managed to filter that sh** very well...
[09:38] <Nechushtan> ssam: yea, at least I'm trying to be =)
[09:38] <tanek> use esd? :P
[09:38] <josh42> ok, I thought i Had this licked.. I have the radeon drivers in, it shows good when I do fglrxinfo, but I just loaded Darwinia, and: 1fps in 800x600 with everything set to low.. a64 3000+, radeon 9800pro
[09:39] <ivoks> polypaudio!
[09:39] <tanek> shame wine cant use esd though
[09:39] <josh42> is there a way to check if darwinia is crazy, or if I really can't do 3d in hardware?
[09:39] <Thorrn4> josh42, where are the logs? are what am I changing?
[09:39] <ssam> nechushtan, i am a powerpc person, i know what its like
[09:39] <ivoks> holycow slaves? :)
[09:39] <bck> esd? enlightement sound daemon?
[09:39] <Nechushtan> ssam: hehe =)
[09:39] <josh42> Thorrn4: That I dunno :( Works for me
[09:39] <DragoraN> ssam: why i have missing alsaconf? i have alsa-utils package installed..
[09:39] <ivoks> holycow this is only my part time job :)
[09:39] <holycow> ivoks, lol what is? helping in #ubunt?
[09:39] <holycow> u
[09:39] <ivoks> holycow i developted 60node cluster and complex firewall
[09:39] <bck> DragoraN, they removed it, but i dont know why.. oO
[09:40] <Funraiser> ivoks, well they can still use the newsgroups anyway..
[09:40] <ivoks> holycow nope :) university admin :)
[09:40] <ssam> dragoran, um, i dont know to much about alsa
[09:40] <airbus> ok i have aterm_04.2-10_i386.deb
[09:40] <airbus> what do i do w/ that
[09:40] <holycow> ivoks, ah cool
[09:40] <ivoks> Funraiser u think? :)
[09:40] <ivoks> i hate helping about linux
[09:40] <andreas_> Does anyone know of a Gnome program to create DVD covers?
[09:40] <DragoraN> bck: huh.. i know the module name, how to autoinsert it?
[09:40] <ssam> airbus, just use synaptic to get it
[09:40] <ivoks> it's so hard to explain that linux isn't a windows copy/clone
[09:40] <Funraiser> ivoks, AND the IRC downloads, the XDCC thing which works pretty well
[09:40] <josh42> What command do I do to see if it's hardware enabled? grep something
[09:40] <holycow> ivoks, your in the wrong channel then :)
[09:41] <holycow> hehe
[09:41] <ivoks> Funraiser it's level7 filter layer
[09:41] <ivoks> holycow maybe... maybe not
[09:41] <thegreedyturtle> ivocks, what cluster 'ware did you use?
[09:41] <ivoks> i'm planing to do some buissnes with ubuntu :)
[09:41] <airbus> ssam how do i do that?
[09:41] <ivoks> thegreedyturtle openmosix
[09:41] <holycow> ivoks, cool
[09:41] <thegreedyturtle> mmmmm openmosix
[09:41] <thegreedyturtle> delicious
[09:41] <holycow> ivoks, what city are you in over there?
[09:41] <ivoks> holycow zagreb
[09:42] <Funraiser> ivoks, level7 means they can't?
[09:42] <holycow> ah okay, just curious, i have friends from there
[09:42] <ssam> airbus, its in the system menu, then administration, synaptic package manager
[09:42] <bck> so, does anyone know how to configure my soundcard whithout alsaconf?
[09:42] <ivoks> Funraiser level7 filter is application layer filter
[09:42] <josh42> I want commandeer my work with that bootable mosix disc.. 100 p4 2.4s w/ 512 ram
[09:42] <ivoks> Funraiser ports, IPs are irrelevant
[09:42] <bck> ok let's say i'd use esd.. what now?
[09:42] <Absenth> has anyone here done much with mind mapping?
[09:42] <airbus> i understand that, but please realize the whole "ive been using linux for less than 24hrs thing"
[09:42] <andreas_> Anyone that know of a decent DVD cover program?
[09:42] <ivoks> Funraiser firewall looks at protocol
[09:42] <josh42> Absenth: with personalbrain, yes
[09:42] <Funraiser> ivoks, ports? they can change the ports in a NG client
[09:43] <ssam> airbus, then press reload to get latest package list
[09:43] <jeroen_> Can someone help me with Samba?
[09:43] <ssam> airbus, then search for aterm
[09:43] <ivoks> Funraiser yep... that's why i use layer7 filtering, not port filtering
[09:43] <thegreedyturtle> ivoks, have you ever worked with xen?
[09:43] <ivoks> thegreedyturtle nope
[09:43] <Absenth> ivoks can you offer an example of a layer7 firewall?
[09:43] <thegreedyturtle> oh well
[09:43] <amichai> man, i did fglrxconfig and my graphics were amazing, then all of a sudden i restart x and it crashes constantly now saying check that its properly set up whats that all about?
[09:43] <ivoks> Absenth l7-filter.sf.net
[09:44] <jeroen_> [samba]  When windows users connect to my box, they need to enter a password. How can I set up samba so that they don't need to enter a password?
[09:44] <Absenth> l7-filter.sf.net
[09:44] <ivoks> Absenth it works very very well
[09:44] <Funraiser> ivoks, so what's the fight with emule then?
[09:44] <Absenth> ivoks, danke.
[09:44] <airbus> ssam, i tried that. aterm isnt in the list
[09:44] <amichai> anyone?
[09:44] <ivoks> Funraiser my firewall understands edonkey2000 protocol and closes every connection that works with that protocol
[09:45] <holycow> ivoks, hey i need to build a transparent firewall/packet sniffer sitting between the net and my router ... i want to see all the packets that attempt to get in to gauge against our rules... someone mentioned i should setup a layer two firewall, am i thinking the right approach here?
[09:45] <ssam> airbus, ok you need to enable the universe
[09:45] <Funraiser> ivoks, that sucks
[09:45] <Funraiser> poor students
[09:45] <ivoks> Funraiser :)
[09:45] <jeroen_> Samba question: When windows users connect to my box, they need to enter a password. How can I set up samba so that they don't need to enter a password?
[09:45] <airbus> ssam, whats that? (how do i do it?)
[09:45] <Funraiser> i bet they figured out something
[09:45] <ivoks> Funraiser i can't allow them to do illegal stuff
[09:45] <ssam> airbus, go to setting -> repositories
[09:45] <andreas_> I need to create some DVD covers... Gee! Please answer me. Is there a decent program that allows graphic?
[09:46] <ivoks> Funraiser u can't figure out... there are ways, but they are managed too :)
[09:46] <JakeX> I want to mount --> jdk-1_5_0_03-linux-amd64.bin  (from java.sun.com)  how can I mount it? its a .bin file.. should I even be mounting it to install it on a ubuntu system? as when I tried apt-get the package is not available to me
[09:46] <Funraiser> ivoks, how do u block torrents?
[09:46] <mifune> andreas_: the gimp?
[09:46] <ivoks> holycow u need bridge firewall
[09:46] <ivoks> Funraiser that's easiest thing... couse torrent is well described as protocol
[09:46] <ivoks> Absenth :)
[09:46] <Absenth> ivoks, how does it deal with SSH based tunnels to an outside proxy?  :0
[09:46] <andreas_> mifune: Difficulties regarding dimensions and the up-down text on the back
[09:46] <ssam> airbus, select the ubuntu 5.04 "hoary hedgehog" (binary)
[09:47] <Funraiser> ivoks, do u block the bittorent protocol too? bittorrent can be legal?
[09:47] <ivoks> Absenth that is the only way u can bypass this firewall
[09:47] <Funraiser> ha ha
[09:47] <ssam> airbus and click edit
[09:47] <Funraiser> good
[09:47] <tanek> jeroen_: i have the same problem
[09:47] <ivoks> Absenth but u can disallow ssh too ;)
[09:47] <jeroen_> tanek: yes?
[09:47] <tanek> yes
[09:47] <jeroen_> tanek: Does it give some strange box?
[09:47] <holycow> ivoks, oh thanku
[09:47] <tanek> yeah, username password-thingy
[09:47] <jeroen_> the one used with encrypted https://pages?
[09:47] <jeroen_> yeah, that one
[09:47] <tanek> yeah
[09:47] <airbus> ah thank you ssam
[09:48] <Funraiser> ivoks, it's weird, a university that has no access to newsgroups...
[09:48] <ivoks> holycow that's machine with/without IP
[09:48] <jeroen_> I use my name and pwd, doesn't work
[09:48] <ssam> airbus change the sections line to say "main restricted universe multiverse" (with out quote)
[09:48] <jeroen_> :-/
[09:48] <tanek> quite annoying...
[09:48] <JakeX> [JDK]  I want to mount --> jdk-1_5_0_03-linux-amd64.bin  (from java.sun.com)  how can I mount it? its a .bin file.. should I even be mounting it to install it on a ubuntu system? as when I tried apt-get the package is not available to me
[09:48] <jeroen_> yep
[09:48] <ivoks> holycow that filter traffic without anybody knows it egzist
[09:48] <jeroen_> And my sister with ubuntu *can* access it :S
[09:48] <holycow> thats what i want, cool :)
[09:48] <ssam> airbus unless you get it with check boxes
[09:48] <ivoks> Funraiser it's just classrooms
[09:48] <holycow> ivoks holycow i developted 60node cluster and complex firewall <-- okay now you got my attention
[09:48] <tanek> wierd :P (not that u have a sister, but that it works ;))
[09:48] <airbus> i get check boxes (hoary)
[09:48] <Nechushtan> JakeX: nope, just follow the ubuntuguide steps minus the plugin stuff and replace the i386 bin with your amd64 bin
[09:48] <ivoks> holycow ? :))
[09:48] <Funraiser> ivoks, oh u mean in the dormitories they can?
[09:49] <Funraiser> access NG?
[09:49] <airbus> how do i make aterm transparent then?
[09:49] <ssam> airbus, ok now click reload again
[09:49] <ivoks> dict dormitories
[09:49] <jeroen_> tanek: Have you tried editing smb.conf?
[09:49] <holycow> thats cool, do  you mind me asking what distro you used for the cluster? thats rather advanced stuff for the average #ubuntu interloper :)
[09:49] <airbus> ssam, i got aterm installed :0)
[09:49] <jeroen_> tanek: I've been doing that for the past hour or so
[09:49] <ivoks> Funraiser newsgroups are alowed
[09:49] <ssam> airbus, yay :-)
[09:49] <airbus> just to make it transparent now :-)
[09:49] <ivoks> holycow debian
[09:49] <airbus> thanks btw
[09:49] <ivoks> holycow but i'm planing to swith on ubuntu
[09:50] <ivoks> holycow at least on clients... server will stay on debian
[09:50] <DragoraN> why i cant switch to virtual console while iam in X ?
[09:50] <Striss> Should Ubuntu PPC be able to read/mount Apple HFS cdroms without a problem?
[09:50] <ssam> airbus, no problem, make sure you pass on the knowledge
[09:50] <Funraiser> ivoks, dict dormitories? dict?
[09:50] <airbus> always try to
[09:50] <airbus> :-)
[09:50] <Andril> hello all
[09:50] <tanek> jeroen_: nah, not really, looked at it and figuerd it would take a while to get right and then i decided not to do that just yet ;)
[09:50] <ivoks> Funraiser enter that line in location bar in ur firefox
[09:50] <airbus> hey Andril
[09:50] <ssam> striss, it should, but udev or hotplug does not recognise them
[09:50] <holycow> ivoks, right on
[09:50] <jeroen_> tanek: heh :)
[09:50] <holycow> i'm running debian on servers too
[09:50] <Striss> ssam what does that mean?
[09:51] <holycow> and will probably switch to ubuntu on desktop
[09:51] <holycow> :)
[09:51] <tanek> jeroen_: :P
[09:51] <holycow> nice
[09:51] <jeroen_> tanek: Is the windows box winxp pro?
[09:51] <ivoks> holycow but i'll see...
[09:51] <ivoks> holycow bigest problem is that this 60 computers are diskless
[09:51] <Andril> airbus, what's up?
[09:51] <ivoks> holycow and when i update/upgrade one, rest are too
[09:51] <holycow> ivoks, yeah lots of variables depending on the job it needs to do
[09:51] <airbus> andril, not much. do u know how to make aterm transparent?
[09:51] <FunnyLookinHat> so should I be surprised that my TNT2 32MB card seems to not handle ET?
[09:51] <jeroen_> no
[09:51] <ssam> striss, it can read them, but it does not properly make the links to the disks, so you cant actually get to them
[09:51] <tanek> jeroen_: think so, its a friend's could be home
[09:51] <holycow> ivoks, you mount from a central disk array right?
[09:52] <ivoks> holycow but that is slow...
[09:52] <jeroen_> tanek: okay..
[09:52] <ivoks> holycow yeah... imagine one server with 60 nodes, catching mount from it
[09:52] <ssam> striss, have you installed all the hfs packages in synaptic
[09:52] <Funraiser> ivoks, location bar?
[09:52] <jeroen_> tanek: someone in #ubuntu-nl said it might be a xppro issue
[09:52] <Andril> airbus, welll your are doing better than - I don't even know what Aterm is is :)
[09:52] <Striss> ssam nope but I'll try that now
[09:52] <jeroen_> tanek: :-/
[09:52] <holycow> neato, i've never had experience with that
[09:52] <holycow> congrats :)
[09:52] <Funraiser> ivoks, adress bar?
[09:52] <ivoks> holycow that server lives on the edge :)
[09:52] <ivoks> Funraiser whatever :)
[09:52] <ssam> striss, i think you need hfsplus and hfsutils
[09:52] <ssam> striss, but it still seems not to work for me
[09:53] <Andril> airbus, I'm a noob and I'll learn quick - I want the package for beagle also
[09:53] <Striss> ssam, I'm trying to find a certain cd that I burned off on my mac when I was running OSX, all my discs are unfortunately labeled so I'm having a heck of a time
[09:53] <ivoks> holycow so, i'm planing to put disks in all clients
[09:53] <airbus> Andril, ya i havent even been using linux for a day yet ! :-)
[09:53] <tanek> jeroen_: :( thats wierd. and even if it is, it shouldnt be that hard to fix, right?
[09:53] <Striss> i was wondering if all these cd's were coasters or if ubuntu just can't mount them
[09:53] <ivoks> holycow and have 60 separate ubuntu instalations
[09:53] <ivoks> holycow with ubuntu that's easy, there aren't so much updates as in sarge
[09:53] <ssam> striss, have you done mounting disk with the command line
[09:53] <ivoks> holycow and i can have stable distro for 18 months
[09:54] <Striss> ssam yep thats what i've been doing
[09:54] <Striss> and it seems that hfsutils has already been installed
[09:54] <holycow> wow
[09:54] <Andril> airbus, wow have you checked the guide yet? http://ubuntuguide.org/ - it'll put you in the clear
[09:54] <bck> how do you guys have configured your soundcard?
[09:54] <shido6> i love ubuntu
[09:54] <holycow> ivoks, how are you getting to install so many linux clients then?
[09:54] <shido6> and the documentation for it is superb
[09:54] <ssam> striss, ok and you know the /dev/hdc1 bit
[09:54] <holycow> science/it classes?
[09:54] <airbus> Andril, ya ive looked at some of the guide
[09:54] <ivoks> holycow heh... i'll pay 2 guys to work that for me :)
[09:54] <airbus> not all of it yet tho
[09:54] <Absenth> no-one here has played with "freemind" or anything similar?
[09:54] <Striss> hdc1? i've just been mounting by mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom
[09:54] <ssam> striss, it seems for me that that does not get created when i put a hfs disk in
[09:54] <jeroen_> tanek: The weird thing is that I can *perfectly* see my sister's comp, and connect, while my XPpro father can't :S
[09:54] <ivoks> holycow i'll develop kickstart file and build my own installation
[09:55] <jeroen_> tanek: can see, not connect
[09:55] <ivoks> holycow it will be "put CD in and go to other comp"
[09:55] <ivoks> holycow instalaion will do all things by it self
[09:55] <Funraiser> jeroen_, well it's windows after all
[09:55] <Striss> ssam i just found a labeled Mac disc that i'm sure works perfectly, so I'm about to find out for sure if this is working or not
[09:55] <Andril> airbus, just down load it and check to see what you need
[09:55] <ssam> striss, ok, and is that working
[09:55] <holycow> ivoks, i plan on the same thing for all of our offices
[09:55] <anto9us> anyone know how I program my laptop volume keys to adjust the pcm channel rather than main volume in gnome?
[09:55] <tanek> jeroen_: hmm, strange. you haven't tried any other windows vers.?
[09:55] <jeroen_> Funraiser: yeah, but my father wants to dump his back-ups on our computers...
[09:55] <jeroen_> tanek: I don't have any other
[09:56] <airbus> Andril, i need all the linux knowledge IN THE WORLD!
[09:56] <jeroen_> tanek: not installed anyway
[09:56] <tanek> ok
[09:56] <Striss> ssam just a sec, about to try
[09:56] <Andril> airbus, i have been using Ubuntu since they started the beta's but I am new to the Debian side of linux - so a little help works
[09:56] <jeroen_> tanek: Should I search my 3.11 diskettes? ;)
[09:56] <holycow> ivoks, all clients will have hd's but all home dirs backed up live with rsync or some such.   the kickstarted reimage will restore latest backup files and theyre off and running
[09:56] <holycow> ivoks, cool to see that happening accross the pond :)
[09:56] <tanek> but if all you need to do is move files from the xp box, you can do that using the ubuntu box :P
[09:56] <Andril> airbus, you and me both :)
[09:56] <ivoks> holycow http://cluster.grad.hr/index.php?page=monitor
[09:56] <Funraiser> jeroen_, the best is to buy a small hard drive, like a 40 GiGa one , don't u think? those are cheap
[09:56] <tanek> share xp folders -> copy paste :)
[09:56] <ivoks> holycow use NFS, not rsync
[09:56] <Striss> ssam ahh, seems to work fine
[09:56] <holycow> ivoks, not over the internet :)
[09:56] <jeroen_> Funraiser: why?
[09:57] <patrick> hey does anyone know how I can get aMule, non source?
[09:57] <Andril> airbus, what os are you being born again from? OSX or XP
[09:57] <ivoks> holycow ah... over the net..
[09:57] <jeroen_> tanek: I know, but it's not, like, you know.. neat
[09:57] <ivoks> holycow check out NFSv4
[09:57] <airbus> XP lol
[09:57] <ssam> striss, ok doing better than me with my old macformat cds
[09:57] <tanek> Funraiser: where i live a 160gb costs like 1.5x a 40gb not worht buying crap then ;)
[09:57] <ivoks> holycow i think they fixed some security issues, but i'm not sure...
[09:57] <airbus> ive been on windows systems since i was 7
[09:57] <ivoks> holycow my cluster is still on 2.4 :)
[09:57] <Funraiser> tanek, where do u live?
[09:57] <tanek> jeroen_: of course not, but as someone said, after all: its windows
[09:57] <tanek> sweden
[09:57] <Andril> patrick, i got it from the user guide http://ubuntuguide.org/
[09:57] <jeroen_> airbus: I've been since 3-4
[09:57] <airbus> so this is a real steep change of pace
[09:57] <holycow> ivoks, cool
[09:58] <jeroen_> tanek: Like my dad cares ;)
[09:58] <sbcman> new to linux airbus?
[09:58] <patrick> yes but i tried and it couldnt find the package :(
[09:58] <airbus> yep, today
[09:58] <jeroen_> tanek: Like I'm in the mood to copy his backup data
[09:58] <Funraiser> tanek, how piratebay.org country...
[09:58] <airbus> got a dual boot system last night around 1am CST
[09:58] <tanek> jeroen_: :P true
[09:58] <airbus> well
[09:58] <airbus> this morning
[09:58] <airbus> 1am cst
[09:58] <ssam> airbus, are you having fun?
[09:58] <sbcman> cool...I have had a linux box for about 8 months now...
[09:58] <airbus> LOTS of fun lol
[09:58] <Andril> airbus, I left OS X when I started Ubuntu - then I went back when I couldn't get any help
[09:58] <tanek> Funraiser: yeah, and to be honest i saw fredrik neij the owner of piratebay.org last weekend :P
[09:58] <jeroen_> tanek: Nor am I in the mood to clean out his messed up xp box+fix his DVD-writer+..+..+..
[09:59] <ivoks> Andril OSX sucks
[09:59] <sbcman> I still have a dual boot..few things I still cant get to work on my linux
[09:59] <airbus> MACs in general are not too cool
[09:59] <ivoks> Andril OSX is very bad realisation of a very good idea
[09:59] <Funraiser> tanek, nice did u talk to him?
[09:59] <Striss> ack, mac bashing, so long
[09:59] <ssam> macs are very cool
[09:59] <jeroen_> sbcman, what then?
[09:59] <patrick> hmm....
[09:59] <tanek> jeroen_: been there ;)
[09:59] <patrick> yes macs are cool :D
[09:59] <jeroen_> tanek: haha
[09:59] <ivoks> lol
[09:59] <sbcman> what do you mean jeroen?
[09:59] <Andril> airbus, I went back on my ibook for Tiger because they sent it to me - and I recently put it back to Ubuntu
[09:59] <airbus> only think i like about macs is some of the software taht is available only to them
[09:59] <ivoks> guess u didn't WORK on then, did u? :)
[10:00] <jeroen_> what is it that's not working with ubuntu then?
[10:00] <Absenth> ivoks, I don't know if I agree with the statement OSX sucks.
[10:00] <ssam> i tried linux, when i could not afford osx for my imac
[10:00] <airbus> Andril, ubuntu is pretty sweet im likin' it
[10:00] <tanek> Funraiser: yeah, he gave me and my friends free tickets to RixHack, a LAN that he is networkadmin on ;)
[10:00] <ivoks> u can't have two disks on one IDE channel... yes, it will for, for a while :)
[10:00] <airbus> anyone here familiar w/ slackware?
[10:00] <Andril> ivoks, you can say that again - The Badger beast the Tiger's ass anyday
[10:00] <ssam> and got adicted, so when i got my powerbook i had to go back to linux
[10:00] <tanek> very nice guy :D
[10:00] <Absenth> ivoks, between fink, and x-darwin there's very little you can't do, that you could with any other *nix distro.
[10:00] <Funraiser> tanek, oh geez nice, i wonder all long this site will be open
[10:00] <ivoks> Absenth Andril did u ever tried to connect OSX to linux CUPS server?
[10:00] <sbcman> actually I dont thnk its a ubuntu problem...the only thing I cannot do is connect with my webcam to MSN...I use this to stay in contact with some of my family
[10:00] <holycow> Absenth, try removing quartz
[10:01] <holycow> >_>
[10:01] <sbcman> otherwise (I use Kubuntu) everything else I have been able to do
[10:01] <Andril> airbus, yes it is - I am stuck with this distro till the end
[10:01] <tanek> Funraiser: there is nothing that says it'll close down anytime soon:P
[10:01] <ivoks> Absenth Andril don't u found stoopid that all network protocols are browsable in same window?
[10:01] <ssam> but mac os x is sooooo pretty
[10:01] <holycow> Absenth, ever check out the file structure of osx? my godd what a horrible setup
[10:01] <airbus> i wish linux had an mp3 player like foobar200
[10:01] <jeroen_> sbcman, go to amsn.sf.net and tell the developers to hurry up with implementing webcam support ;)
[10:01] <stazz> holycow: what exactly is wrong with that?
[10:01] <ivoks> Absenth Andril did u check ur hard disk after installing OSX? how many partitions are there?
[10:01] <sbcman> hehe I will...there are a couple promising projects out there
[10:01] <jambon> hello all
[10:01] <Andril> airbus, RedHat & Mandrake let me down just intime for Ubunt to iron out the kinks and with the help I get here - there is no other OS
[10:01] <Absenth> holycow, file structure in forsaken core is any better?
[10:02] <ssam> an zeroconf works so well in os x
[10:02] <ivoks> Absenth Andril and what about that mount command? it's striped more than pamela anderson
[10:02] <tanek> swedish law says its OK to tell people where to get copyrighted stuff, as long as u dont upload it. and the tracker itself doesnt upload anything but torrents :D
[10:02] <jambon> has anyone else had problems with mp3 files and wmv 9 files?
[10:02] <sbcman> Jeroen..did you install ubuntu with KDE or gnome?
[10:02] <Absenth> holycow, ivoks, You'
[10:02] <ivoks> Absenth Andril and don't get me start about other UNIX tools :) and permissons, OMG!! :)
[10:02] <Funraiser> tanek, sure but it's still borderline
[10:02] <Andril> ivoks, yes it's actually a fresh harddrive from apple
[10:02] <stazz> jambon: you bet, you might want to take a look at the wiki. they are restricted formats.
[10:02] <airbus> Andril, ya... RedHat and Mandrake got rly stupid (my roomate used linux for a long time, i watched him get mad at both of those a lot)
[10:02] <tanek> jambon: check the wiki on www.ubuntulinux.org
[10:02] <ivoks> Andril how many? 7? 8 partitions? :)
[10:02] <jambon> mp3 restricted
[10:02] <jambon> ???
[10:03] <jambon> how the hell would that work?
[10:03] <stazz> jambon: yes. take a look at the wiki.
[10:03] <jeroen_> sbcman, with gnome
[10:03] <ShadowRage> mandrake can piss you off
[10:03] <Absenth> holycow, ivoks, You're listing a bunch of problems it DOES have.  I won't argue with that.  On the other hand.  untill someone can give me working airport extreme drivers for ubuntu on ppc,  OSX it is.
[10:03] <sbcman> airbus...I have used several distros..learned a little bit more with each one...finally everything came together with kubuntu
[10:03] <Funraiser> tanek, it's the last good site around for torrents
[10:03] <stazz> Andril: what exactly is there wrong with the apple partition scheme?
[10:03] <thegreedyturtle> Hey, did y'all see this on /. ? : Azureus Decentralized Bittorrent
[10:03] <thegreedyturtle> BobPaul writes "While the eXeem project to decentralize Bittorrent remains in open beta, the Azureus Java Bittorrent project has recently released a major update that, among other things offers 'a distributed, decentralised database that can be used to track decentralised torrents. This permits both "trackerless" torrents and the maintenance of swarms where the tracker has become unavailable or where the torrent was removed f
[10:03] <thegreedyturtle> rom the tracker.' It doesn't contain the search functionality of eXeem, but it's also not a beta product and is licensed under the GPL. Could this and compatible clients be the replacement to SuprNova and Lokitorrents, or does the lack of search negate its effectiveness?"
[10:03] <ivoks> Andril ah, u won't see all partitions in OSX... start linux installation :)
[10:03] <Andril> air, bus I am learning so one day the Op's will ask me to join
[10:03] <tanek> Funraiser: nah :P not the last one ;)
[10:03] <airbus> how is kubuntu different from ubuntu sbcman?
[10:03] <jeroen_> Kubuntu uses KDE as DE
[10:03] <sbcman> just KDE instead of gnome...
[10:03] <Andril> ivoks, Apple made sauce of my drive and Hoary now resides
[10:04] <sbcman> different DE enviroment
[10:04] <ShadowRage> what's nice about ubuntu is that it goes with freedesktop standards
[10:04] <ShadowRage> that's why gnome is preferred over KDE for most people
[10:04] <tanek> Funraiser: and there's always isohunt.com and filelist.org and torrentreactor.net :P
[10:04] <Nechushtan> does acpi matter for amd64?
[10:04] <airbus> sbcman, cant i install KDE if i wanted to?
[10:04] <jeroen_> airbus, you can
[10:04] <airbus> is that easy?
[10:04] <jeroen_> airbus, look for kubuntu-desktop package
[10:04] <jambon> looking on wiki.....not finding much
[10:04] <Funraiser> tanek, true
[10:04] <Absenth> holycow, ivoks, the power management, and sleep functions on the ibook are second to none I've seen.  close the notebook, it sleeps within a second or two.  Open the screen, and you're back to a working desktop again within a second or two.  Leave it closed from 99% batter, and 5 days later it's at 90% battery.  That's what made me not buy an X86 notebook.
[10:04] <Andril> stazz, they play partiotion games - and the user looses in the end
[10:04] <sbcman> airbus..absolutely...
[10:04] <jeroen_> I'm not sure if it's easy.....
[10:04] <jeroen_> just install KDE
[10:05] <ivoks> well..
[10:05] <tanek> Funraiser:  to bad exeem wasn't as good as it promised :(
[10:05] <ivoks> time to see how this match will end :)
[10:05] <ivoks> bye guys
[10:05] <ari_> hi i need help with my xmms it doestn play mp3?
[10:05] <jeroen_> you can then choose (at login time) to start KDE
[10:05] <stazz> Andril: could you explain that a bit more carefully, I don't catch the metaphore
[10:05] <tanek> bye ivoks
[10:05] <jeroen_> ?? mp3
[10:05] <[uhelp] > mp3: To setup mp3 playback, see http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:05] <Absenth> later ivoks
[10:05] <sbcman> there are several DE and window managers out there...my suggestion is to try out some them...you are not limited to justone
[10:05] <icebalm> Andril: how exactly does the user lose?
[10:05] <Andril> stazz, don't get me wrong I have been a Mac guy for awhile all they way through to Tiger - but the true OS champ is Ubuntu
[10:05] <Funraiser> tanek, yeah but i got to discover Newsgroups which is even better since u don't upload anything
[10:05] <jeroen_> ari_, look at what [uhelp]  says
[10:05] <jeroen_> ??mp3
[10:05] <ShadowRage> shock: up: command not found
[10:05] <ShadowRage>  13:05:45 up 15:27,  5 users,  load average: 0.56, 0.71, 0.85
[10:05] <jeroen_> ?? mp3
[10:05] <[uhelp] > Hey jeroen_, i've already told #ubuntu about "mp3"... no need to repeat (i think)
[10:06] <Absenth> andril, on a ppc desktop, or notebook?
[10:06] <icebalm> Andril: I'm using ubuntu now and you're wrong, OS X is much better
[10:06] <airbus> can i get KDE in synaptic package manager?
[10:06] <jeroen_> airbus, yes
[10:06] <Funraiser> tanek, so to me it wasn't a bad thing when loki closed, i switched to NGs
[10:06] <jeroen_> airbus, just look for kde.....
[10:06] <Andril> absenth, my ibook g4 & my G5 desktop
[10:06] <Absenth> Andril and with ubuntu, how do you connect to wireless networks?
[10:06] <Funraiser> tanek, and XDCC works fine too
[10:06] <stazz> Andril: yes, but that's very far from explaining it. my experience with macs is quite limited, I know they are *very* different from PC's with, for example, the partitioning, but it didn't bother me at all. I just wanted to know what you think is wrong about it
[10:06] <tanek> Funraiser: ok
[10:07] <Funraiser> tanek, without any upload either
[10:07] <holycow> Absenth, backo, oh yes i can't disagree with you at all on that
[10:07] <sbcman> airbus...you can also check out ubuntuguide and ubuntu forums for some help if you need it
[10:07] <ari_> jeroen, where is that, whre i look for  unhelp
[10:07] <holycow> Absenth, hard to beat a platform where the manufacturer actually writes their own drivers
[10:07] <tanek> Funraiser: but you have to upload for the greater good :P
[10:07] <airbus> ah awesome
[10:07] <dell500> anyone here installed Steam??
[10:07] <sbcman> ubuntu they both have some great how-tos for those new to linux
[10:07] <Andril> icebalm, just speaking from my experience - comparing the Betas of both OS's
[10:07] <airbus> synaptic package manager rox
[10:07] <Absenth> holycow, and that's a bad thing?
[10:07] <Funraiser> tanek, u mean on NGs?
[10:07] <tanek> Funraiser: in general
[10:07] <holycow> i suspect apple has no real plans to play nice with the open source/free software community tho, and you will never see drivers for the airport on ubuntu without significant work
[10:07] <icebalm> Andril: betas? both have atleast a couple releases out
[10:07] <holycow> Absenth, not at all :) just sayin
[10:08] <airbus> is it common for users to refer to "synaptic package manager" as "spm"?
[10:08] <airbus> im just tryin to get the LINGO down here
[10:08] <sbcman> apt-get along with synaptic is by far the easiest package manager I have come across
[10:08] <tanek> FunnyLookinHat: someone has to upload or noone can download, and the most effective way is to have a system where every downloader has to share
[10:08] <stazz> holycow: well, you won't see any commercial software for linux/ppc either, so don't expect any miracles :)
[10:08] <jeroen_> ari_ [uhelp]  is a bot. I will say ?? mp3 and then it will tell you were to look
[10:08] <jeroen_> ?? mp3
[10:08] <[uhelp] > mp3: To setup mp3 playback, see http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:08] <airbus> is apt-get unique to ubuntu
[10:08] <holycow> stazz, actually theres quite a bit already, but in specialized fields
[10:08] <Nechushtan> apt-get is debian
[10:09] <stazz> airbus: no, it's inherited from debian
[10:09] <Absenth> holycow, I bought an ibook as my first experiance with mac.  If I could go back and do it again, I wouldn't have bought a notebook at all, but actually waited untill now.
[10:09] <airbus> cool
[10:09] <sbcman> nope...debian based distros and others use it
[10:09] <Funraiser> tanek, did u notice that on NGs there are those par files to fix the files, and not on any other way of sharing files, I wonder if this has to do with a way for the uploader to not get caught during the upload
[10:09] <stazz> holycow: could you point something out?
[10:09] <holycow> stazz, and i've sent notices to all software vendors that we expect all of their products on linux soon ... although i am not holding my breath either :)
[10:09] <Andril> absenth, I used Netgear USB wireless cards - for my iBook I haven't really touched any wireless attempts with 6 Ubuntu PC's through out the houses
[10:09] <tanek> Funraiser: never used 'em :P
[10:09] <jeroen_> hey, who was it that needed webcam support?
[10:09] <airbus> Andril, what netgear router are you using?
[10:09] <stazz> holycow: the day photoshop gets ported you can come tell me I was wrong :P
[10:09] <sbcman> Andrill...I have my wireless card working but I had to use ndiswrapper
[10:09] <jeroen_> I just read the aMSN next release TODO
[10:10] <Funraiser> tanek, oh, u should really check it out
[10:10] <Funraiser> really
[10:10] <sbcman> but I have a linksys wmp11
[10:10] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: what do you mean by not any other way to share the files?
[10:10] <tanek> Funraiser: maybe I should...
[10:10] <jeroen_> -Interface for webcam (GUI stuff)
[10:10] <jeroen_> -Support sending webcam on linux
[10:10] <jeroen_> -Support sending webcam to people on MSN 6-7 (actually it's just for people on aMSN) (Youness)
[10:10] <Absenth> holycow, it wasn't possible to get >4hr battery life, on a <5lb notebook, for less then $1600 when I picked up the 12" G4.  Now I'd pick up a generic notebook with a pentium-M ~ 1.6ghz and run ubuntu on it.
[10:10] <jeroen_> so aMSN team is working on it
[10:10] <sbcman> I am not hardwired at all into my router any more...
[10:10] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, there are PAR files only in NGs (right?)
[10:10] <holycow> Absenth, i'm doing nothing like that
[10:10] <tanek> actually i hadly know what it is :P
[10:10] <Andril> icebalm, I started Ubuntu in the Warty betas and Mac & Win has always had me on the beta list back since '93
[10:10] <Absenth> Andril, do you know if it's possible to run two USB PrismII cards at the same time on ubuntu?
[10:11] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, at least i only say them there
[10:11] <tanek> jeroen_: aMSN is webcam-ready? :S
[10:11] <Funraiser> saw
[10:11] <holycow> Absenth, im building my self an arm 500mhz cpu pda, with a clamshell
[10:11] <jeroen_> tanek: no
[10:11] <jeroen_> tanek: It's in the TODO for next release
[10:11] <jeroen_> -Interface for webcam (GUI stuff)
[10:11] <jeroen_> -Support sending webcam on linux
[10:11] <jeroen_> -Support sending webcam to people on MSN 6-7 (actually it's just for people on aMSN) (Youness)
[10:11] <Nechushtan> well, anyone can use par files, they just have the most use in NG's
[10:11] <tanek> ah, :P any ETA?
[10:11] <sbcman> absenth...I have not done it...but I cannot imagine it would be a huge problem...
[10:11] <icebalm> Andril: that's nice, how about looking at them from their latest releases?
[10:11] <holycow> Absenth, will be ugly as hell but it will fit in a largish pocket and have all the power i need in my palm, laptops i find cumbersome, and something to worry about being stolen
[10:11] <jeroen_> tanek: usually aMSN releases are very frequent
[10:12] <jeroen_> tanek: but it's been long since 0.94 (latest version)
[10:12] <airbus> what other desktop environments are there? (Besides gnome and kde)
[10:12] <ari_> jeroen_: ok i opened what [unhelp]  said
[10:12] <Andril> airbus,  Netgear RangeMax  Wireless Router Model WPN824
[10:12] <jeroen_> http://amsn.sourceforge.net
[10:12] <jeroen_> ari_, did it help you? :)
[10:12] <airbus> ANDRIL OMG
[10:12] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, i understand that, but see, I have never seen par files with torrents or edonkey or XDCC...
[10:12] <airbus> is that thing good, i read about it
[10:12] <Absenth> sbcman, maybe this week I'll give ubuntu on the ibook a shot.  I've got a pair of PrismII usb nics.  Some of what I use the notebook for requires a pair.
[10:12] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, only in NGs
[10:12] <Andril> absenth, not sure but your question compels me to try it though
[10:12] <tanek> jeroen_: ok, so probably ill get my long-wanted webcam support soon? :D
[10:12] <icebalm> Andril: unfortunately linux, as a whole, any distribution, cannot even come close to OS X in terms of usability and software availability. That being said, ubuntu I believe is the best linux distribution.
[10:13] <sbcman> absenth....it would be fun to try anyway
[10:13] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: oh, because p2p has error correction(at lesat torrents do and i think edonkey too) so par's aren't needed
[10:13] <jeroen_> tanek: not sure. Donate ice-cream to the aMSN team and maybe you'll be lucky :)
[10:13] <shinu> is there a command to check which ports are active? ()in use
[10:13] <shinu> (in use)*
[10:13] <stazz> icebalm: the thing that really makes OSX great (compared to linux) is that you can be sure drag&drop works ;)
[10:13] <tanek> jeroen_: might just as well try that :D
[10:13] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, do u know a bit about IP spoofing?
[10:13] <Andril> icebal, I have and do daily - I take my Ubuntu disc's to work and drastically - the users are changing
[10:13] <ari_> jeroen_, the problem is that it played mp3 yesterday, and yesterday i just install in my machine
[10:13] <tanek> have anyone gotten gaim-vv to work with msn webcams?
[10:14] <jeroen_> ari_: that's weird
[10:14] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: not a whole lot
[10:14] <icebalm> stazz: hah, among other things, but yes, you are right
[10:14] <Marble2> How can I use wget to get a page which is restricted with a form login. I.e how can I get wget to login at a page and then get another page
[10:14] <meho> I need help installing my Lexmark x83 printer
[10:14] <jeroen_> ari_: no idea how?
[10:14] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, i think IP spoofing could be a way to upload a file in a NG (using PAR files) and being caught
[10:14] <ari_> jeroen, libdvdcss for my totem player
[10:14] <Nechushtan> anyone here have an nforce4 board that can help me get my amd64 seeing my ide harddrives?
[10:14] <stazz> icebalm: well, I really think it's the only *nix* that you can be sure stuff like that works.
[10:14] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, not being caught
[10:14] <meho> Can anyone help me install my Lexmark x83 printer
[10:14] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: yea thats how its usuaully done
[10:14] <Andril> icebalm, true as it may be Linux and Ubuntu has scored a K.O. this year and with te Badger coming in months - they'll shake it up again
[10:14] <jeroen_> ari_, libdvdcss2 is for DVDs, it shouldn't interfere with, let's say, XMMS
[10:14] <icebalm> stazz: there is something to be said for having a unified desktop environment
[10:15] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, i knew it
[10:15] <Andril> No one said it would be easy
[10:15] <stazz> icebalm: yes well, I personally hate these DE wars :P
[10:15] <ari_> jeroen, today i try to play my mp3 list in xmms and it doesn't worked so i reinstall from repository and installed other plugins
[10:15] <tanek> my rythmbox played mp3 out of the box i think :P
[10:15] <jeroen_> hmmm...
[10:15] <Nechushtan> ari_: does xmms give an error?
[10:15] <jeroen_> can you try it with another player?
[10:16] <ari_> jeroen_, yes i think the same as you but it was the only thing i did in my machine yesterday
[10:16] <jeroen_> Or select *complete removal* in synaptic
[10:16] <meho> can anyone help me
[10:16] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, so that means NGs is the best way to get a *file*
[10:16] <jeroen_> then install again
[10:16] <jeroen_> this deletes the config files (they might be messed up..)
[10:16] <icebalm> Andril: Unfortunately I think you have the reality distortion field set on reverse polarity
[10:16] <sbcman> meho are you running gnome or kde?
[10:16] <Funraiser> tanek, did u follow this?
[10:16] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: more or less. i use it heavily, but lately the good stuff has been torrent only
[10:16] <Andril> Sorry, I didn't want to start OS Armagedon - I just like Ubuntu
[10:17] <stazz> Andril: I really agree with you that ubuntu is doing a great job. perharps the best of the current distros. but it still really doesn't satisfy my needs :)
[10:17] <Funraiser> Nechushtan, well i mean if u don't want your IP to be visible to all
[10:17] <Funraiser> like in azureus
[10:17] <sbcman> meho you fight do a google for "lesmark x83 linux driver" and see if that gets you anywhere
[10:17] <Andril> icebalm, all's good in the shell - I get paid well to make Mac & Win to work for users daily - but when I come home Ubuntu does my work
[10:17] <Nechushtan> Funraiser: yea, if your news providor doesn't keep logs
[10:17] <airbus> ill brb
[10:18] <tanek> Funraiser: follow what :$
[10:18] <Absenth> Andril, I mean to start OS Armagedon....  OpenBSD Rules :0
[10:18] <ari_> jeroen_:yes it guives one when i open it from a terminal it said  libmikmod.so.2: it can be opened the files objects sahred. doent exist the file or directory
[10:18] <Funraiser> tanek, why downloading using NGs is really neat
[10:18] <Andril> stazz, true again - but you are here just like me to make Ubuntu work out your needs
[10:18] <Absenth> Andril I'm kidding about Armagedon....  Each has its place.  That's for sure.
[10:18] <ShadowRage> it was perfect before
[10:19] <Nechushtan> c'mon someone here has to be running on an nforce4 board!
[10:19] <stazz> Andril: nah, I'm really here just to see what people usually complain about.
[10:19] <Nechushtan> haha
[10:19] <stazz> Andril: so I know if I can recommend ubuntu to my less-computer-experienced relatives
[10:19] <tanek> Funraiser: not really, ill go back and read :P
[10:19] <Funraiser> tanek, see, there is only one uploader, and he uses IP spoofing to keep anonymous, you just have to download
[10:19] <Andril> stazz, word... give it to the uppers too
[10:19] <Absenth> stazz, linspire = the most uncomputer savy friendly os I've ever seen.
[10:19] <Nechushtan> stazz: I installed it for my mom and sister. they haven't had any problems yet
[10:19] <icebalm> Andril: and that's great, but claiming ubuntu is some how better than OS X is unfortunately folly at this point in the game
[10:20] <anto9us> ubuntu is for everyone
[10:20] <ari_> Nachushtan:yes it guives one when i open it from a terminal it said  libmikmod.so.2: it can be opened the files objects sahred. doent exist the file or directory
[10:20] <stazz> Absenth: you can go wrong with linspire.
[10:20] <Andril> Ubuntu will be the new spead
[10:20] <stazz> Absenth: the thing with roots.
[10:20] <ShadowRage> ubuntu is OK.
[10:20] <Nechushtan> ari_: is this when xmms loads or when you try and play an mp3?
[10:20] <alqaine> hi all
[10:20] <ShadowRage> I see areas it could do a lot better
[10:20] <karljp> anyone know how to set the keyboard map back to what the xorg.conf says?
[10:20] <Andril> can you image going to Sonic or Jack In The Box for a burger - then girl asking "would you like Ubuntu with that?"
[10:20] <ShadowRage> better package support, etc
[10:20] <Nechushtan> ShadowRage: agreed
[10:20] <ShadowRage> faster boot times, etc
[10:21] <stazz> Nechushtan: but in the same time, it should actually be able to provide more than windows :)
[10:21] <Absenth> stazz, roots?
 it is when i run it from a terminal
[10:21] <ShadowRage> sady, you have to abandon the LSB 2.0 standards to achieve that
[10:21] <stazz> Absenth: everything run as root, for default
[10:21] <ShadowRage> LSB 2.0 is better for server linux distros
[10:21] <karljp> what's LSB2.0?
[10:21] <Andril> icebalm, Win & Mac make me a living - true
[10:21] <tanek> Funraiser: sounds great, and where can i find these uploaders? :P
[10:21] <Nechushtan> stazz: more? in what way? I think it already does. its all about what you need and the paradigm you look at the OS with
[10:21] <Absenth> stazz, this is true I suppose.
[10:21] <ShadowRage> creating a linux standard
[10:21] <meho> please someone can anyone give me a hand in installing the damn lexmark x83 printer
[10:21] <Absenth> karljp Linux Standards Base.
[10:21] <ShadowRage> eg, everyone has to be on the same level
[10:21] <karljp> got a link?
[10:22] <Nechushtan> ari_: try installing that library and see if it helps. i don't think that has anything to do with mp3 but...
[10:22] <Andril> icebalm, True Indeed
[10:22] <fsapo> ShadowRage, the think that linux still lacks for desktop users.. is some kind of "installation app" link windows.. they click on the stuff and just go.. next... next... next.. thats what a desktop "linux newbie" wants
[10:22] <stazz> Absenth: the CEO of linspire actulla says there's no good arguments against running everything as root, but there really is. it's kind of taking away all the security on *potentially* briging in all the problems of current windowses
[10:22] <sbcman> meho you fight do a google for "lesmark x83 linux driver" and see if that gets you anywhere
[10:22] <Nechushtan> stazz: its like when people run in windows as admin
 so it can be at the repositories?
[10:22] <ShadowRage> I personally dislike standards that expect complete conformity between distributions, I can understand compatibility, but it stifles innovation
[10:22] <Funraiser> tanek, check http://www.newzbin.com
[10:22] <ShadowRage> to create something that may make linux better
[10:22] <STK_ToNhO_> Absenth: Mac OS is very easy
[10:22] <Andril> icebalm, what brings you to Ubuntu?
[10:22] <Absenth> stazz, Believe me....  I understand the reasons NOT to run everything as root.
[10:22] <Funraiser> tanek, then enter the file you are looking for
[10:23] <corvix> hoi
[10:23] <tanek> Funraiser: will do :P
[10:23] <icebalm> Andril: I run ubuntu on this pc
[10:23] <ShadowRage> fsapo: autopackage.org
[10:23] <Andril> icebalm, cool just asking
[10:23] <Nechushtan> ari_: libmikmod2
[10:23] <Absenth> stazz, my internet servers are all locked down with everything running in root jail for exactly that reason.
[10:23] <jambon> does anyone have bmp installed and working
[10:23] <corvix> anyone knows why gnome keeps loosing the gatewaysetting in networking after switching profile? (hoary)
[10:23] <fsapo> ShadowRage, i know it.. but tell how many apps are using it?
[10:23] <karljp> absenth, that's a different prupose
[10:23] <Absenth> stazz, I guess I didn't realize linspire was running all as root.
[10:23] <Andril> icebalm, it has it's kinks but it requires some time to iron them out
[10:23] <ShadowRage> fsapo: if I had a chance to mess with ubuntu and make an experimental ubuntu distro, I'd use apple's launchd and that. plus the deb package thing (for base system install and upgrades)
[10:23] <karljp> the linspire guy raises valid points
[10:24] <ShadowRage> fsapo: not many atm, though gaim is one that is
[10:24] <Absenth> karljp diffrent, but related none the less.
[10:24] <stazz> Nechushtan: yeah well, I think the end user should be able to surf the web without worrying about spyware/viruses, and not having a firewall installation the first priority. ubuntu really does that. but that situation is somewhat reacable with windows, so linux distros should actually have something media-sexy in them.
[10:24] <karljp> related definitely, but at the same time,
[10:24] <icebalm> Andril: ubuntu, at this point, seems like the best all-around linux distribution
[10:24] <Andril> icebalm, I have always been a Underdog Fan Boy
[10:24] <stazz> Absenth: yeah. that's like the worst design choise ever.
[10:24] <ShadowRage> I have several good ideas for a linux system
[10:24] <karljp> 99% of desktop linux installations are single user.
[10:24] <jeroen_> jambon, beep-media-player?
[10:24] <fsapo> ShadowRage, i showed ubuntu for a friend that never used linux and the first thing he said was
[10:24] <ShadowRage> one that the user should never have to see a text console
[10:24] <karljp> perhaps not run daily as root, though I know people who do.
[10:24] <Andril> icebalm, ahhh we agree on that
[10:24] <dead^^> could anyone guide me with this. i got my Ubuntu just few days  ago and i have a problem with copying files.
[10:25] <Andril> cheers - cheers - cheers
[10:25] <g14> icebalm: All around for the desktop, not for a server
[10:25] <stazz> Absenth: That's pretty much the reason why ubuntu (currently!) is the top choise for the end-user :)
[10:25] <josh42> What's the /leanest/ way to run gnome? which theme, how to turn off animations, etc
[10:25] <karljp> just don't
[10:25] <g14> josh42: Use the Metabox theme
[10:25] <icebalm> g14: agreed
 i have to reset my computer once it has finished to be donloades
[10:25] <ari_>  <Nechushtan>:downloaded???
[10:25] <corvix> anyone knows why gnome keeps loosing the gatewaysetting in networking after switching profile? (hoary)
[10:25] <ShadowRage> fsapo: ?
[10:26] <velious> hi
[10:26] <Sauron21> guys....what is the best way of mounting CUE/BIN files to a cdrom??
[10:26] <jeroen_> ari_: normally not, just for installing software
[10:26] <corvix> convert the cue bin to iso
[10:26] <josh42> g14; Perfect, thank you - gnomelook.org?
[10:26] <tanek> Funraiser: whats up with the premium credit? :S
[10:26] <Absenth> stazz, karljp, currently the only linux servers I'm running are RedHat 8.0 :/ they are operating as LTSP servers,  but rather then offer an X desktop, they launch a Citrix ICA sesson to a win2K citrix server.  we have about 250 users running on linux, that don't even know it.
[10:26] <ari_>  <Nechushtan>: so it has been installed, so i can see, in amoment i tell you
[10:26] <drac> Sauron21: Use program called 'bchunk' to make it an .iso.
[10:26] <Funraiser> tanek, i don't know it's free anywat
[10:26] <josh42> Sauron21; trying to replace daemon tools/alcohol? :)
[10:26] <Absenth> stazz, karljp, all the rest of my *nix servers are running OpenBSD.  With a few Ubuntu desktops that I use personally.
[10:27] <fsapo> karljp, jeroen_ calm down i m searching the thread to show you :P
[10:27] <Funraiser> tanek, anyway
[10:27] <mackid> makeisofs...
[10:27] <Sauron21> what about cdemu ?
[10:27] <jeroen_> fsapo, great :)
[10:27] <g14> josh42: type this in a terminal. metacity-theme-viewer Metabox
[10:27] <Funraiser> tanek, so type the file like a movie or a game
[10:27] <karljp> absenth: what does that have to do with running as root?
[10:27] <stazz> Absenth: well, linux still isn't the OS for the end-user. I keep recommending OSX to everyone I can.
[10:27] <tanek> Funraiser: i wanted a program, and it says i cant view the files without premium credits
[10:27] <mackid> THANK YOU
[10:27] <meho> I have tried to search for drivers on google for my lexmark printer please if anyone xcan help please do
[10:27] <fsapo> ShadowRage, karljp, jeroen_, http://forum.hardmob.uol.com.br/showthread.php?s=&postid=4569848#post4569848
[10:27] <Sauron21> is there a daemon tools for linux?
[10:27] <shinu> anyone know how i can check if my port forwarding was correctly set up?
[10:28] <velious> i just got Ubuntu and this kicks ass, and my sound drivers still work! :D
[10:28] <stazz> meho: did you try the gnome-cups-manager ?
[10:28] <g14> josh42: Metabox comes with gnome as one of the default themes
[10:28] <karljp> does your app work/not work shinu?
[10:28] <Funraiser> tanek, did u type that in search?
[10:28] <shinu> (its for bittorrent)
[10:28] <Andril> anyone have the Beagle package?
[10:28] <larsrohdin> do i need both fglrx and xorg-driver-fglrx?
[10:28] <shinu> karljp: it does but just wanna check
[10:28] <Absenth> karljp, nothing actually....  I might be alittle Attention deficit at the moment.  Something you said about single user boxen is what triggered that though.
[10:28] <fsapo> ShadowRage, karljp, jeroen_, Translating.. he said "Isnt there some kind of "EXE" programs? top install software in linux is a pain the ass
[10:28] <tanek> Funraiser: yeah
[10:28] <karljp> fsapo: care to translate for is?
[10:28] <karljp> takk :)
[10:28] <fsapo> karljp, already did
[10:28] <ShadowRage> sysvinit worked for UNIX in the 1980's. but we're now in 2005, and trying to create a worthy desktop system and no one has made a proper attempt to fix the init issue
[10:29] <Funraiser> tanek, well i just tried mac os tiger for example and it works
[10:29] <karljp> yeah, /me was too slow on the typing :(
[10:29] <ShadowRage> launchd from apple is a good start
[10:29] <fsapo> karljp, that was the only point that he "Disliked" in linux
[10:29] <Echylo> what is a good virtual machine emulator for ubuntu? jamvm ?
[10:29] <alqaine> mulla ois semmosta asiaa ku haluaisin vet teit kaikki suoraa bebaan
[10:29] <stazz> there's nothing wrong with installing software on linux, as long as the package management system doesn't set any limits :)
[10:29] <tanek> Funraiser: i tried vmware, and it doesnt work... btw, do i need a 3d party app?
[10:29] <ari_>  <Nechushtan>: the error doesn't appers more , but still withowt playing, when i put play it freeze and doesn't respond
[10:29] <Sauron21> I will try to use bchunk....
[10:29] <ShadowRage> autopackage is also good because it can do a local user install
[10:29] <ShadowRage> eg, just to that user's account
[10:29] <Funraiser> tanek, hold on
[10:29] <karljp> and you can find the package management system
[10:29] <larsrohdin> do i need both fglrx and xorg-driver-fglrx?
[10:29] <josh42> g14; ahh, the border theme
[10:29] <ShadowRage> if I can get ahold of the launchd source code, I'd be happy
[10:30] <stazz> ShadowRage: I thought launchd was open source
[10:30] <glyph> hello all
[10:30] <fsapo> karljp, and if you look at the topic title he said that ubuntu worked perfectly with his A64 cpu and he liked it
[10:30] <karljp> learned by habit or not, there's a lot to be said for "download installer from my software vendor, save somewhere, double click"
[10:30] <ShadowRage> yes
[10:30] <Funraiser> tanek, here it works, ok i see what u mean
[10:30] <ShadowRage> stazz: I didnt say it wasnt
[10:30] <glyph> I need to build a more recent version of cifs.ko for ubuntu but I cannot figure out what magic the kernel uses to decide whether modules are compatible or not
[10:30] <ShadowRage> stazz: I just cant find the source package
[10:30] <Funraiser> tanek, when u type vmware there are line that tells u where u can find it right?
[10:30] <fsapo> karljp, but after using it he said that was difficult to install programs.. cause of endeless dependencies
[10:30] <stazz> ShadowRage: ah, I see.
[10:30] <glyph> I'm not sure exactly what question to ask - i have a replacement for the kernel's fs/cifs directory, and I want to build it
[10:30] <holycow> ShadowRage, there are various init projects out there
[10:31] <ShadowRage> seen them
[10:31] <Absenth> alright I should get back to work.
[10:31] <glyph> so are there any kernel-package experts around?  I need modules from -restricted and I would *REALLY* prefer not to build a whole new kernel just for this one file
[10:31] <ShadowRage> most suck or are on the same level with sysvinit
[10:31] <josh42> karljp; you think dl>click is good? do: applications > system tools > add/remove
[10:31] <nomed^> hi
[10:31] <ShadowRage> or are overly complicated
[10:31] <ari_>  <Nechushtan>: ????
[10:31] <glyph> especially since I already tried that and it was incompatible with my existing kernel...
[10:31] <Funraiser> tanek, yes u need a third app, i was about to explain that part
[10:31] <shinu> anyone any ideas about the port forwarding check?
[10:31] <tanek> Funraiser: hmm, there's a whole lot of lines telling me lots of stuff, but nothing of where i can find it
[10:31] <ShadowRage> or do things differently to say "HEY I'M DIFFERENT"
[10:32] <Funraiser> tanek, now in Ubuntu click applications/run application and type pan
[10:32] <nomed^> do you know what it's used for ubuntu live cd?
[10:32] <jeroen_> Does anyone know where to find info on the calendar?
[10:32] <nomed^> gnoppix morphix or a fresh live cd?
[10:32] <jeroen_> I still don't see ubuntu-calendar-may
[10:32] <holycow> ShadowRage, heh, you find nothing you like?
[10:32] <tanek> Funraiser: don't have "pan"
[10:32] <Funraiser> tanek, the synaptic pan
[10:32] <Funraiser> then synaptic pan
[10:33] <Nechushtan> ari_: what?
[10:33] <Funraiser> tanek, i mean then go to synaptic and install pan
[10:33] <ari_>  <Nechushtan>: the error doesn't appers more , but still withowt playing, when i put play it freeze and doesn't respond
[10:33] <ShadowRage> holycow: launchd on the other hand (what OSX tiger uses) looks good, uses XML configuration for booting apps, takes care of init, cron, and others
[10:33] <tanek> got it :P
[10:33] <Funraiser> tanek, installed,
[10:33] <Funraiser> ?
[10:34] <Nechushtan> ari_: ok, you can get mp3's to play in other players just not xmms?
[10:34] <ShadowRage> people say that makes a single point of failure
[10:34] <mdz> Nechushtan: do you have any ide-* modules in /etc/modules?
[10:34] <tanek> Funraiser: almost there
[10:34] <ShadowRage> funny thing is, linux kernel itself is a single point of failure, glibc is a single point of failure, / is a single point of failure, etc
[10:34] <Nechushtan> mdz: ah, nope
[10:35] <ShadowRage> rm -rf / will ruin the system, rm -rf /etc will ruin 90% of the system
[10:35] <Sauron21> bchunk worked great...!
[10:35] <mdz> Nechushtan: what do you have in /etc/modules?
[10:35] <ShadowRage> shit, all a virus make rwould have to do is taint the libc.so library and it could destroy the system
[10:35] <tanek> Funraiser: done
[10:35] <Funraiser> tanek, so now in Ubuntu applications/runapplications type pan
[10:35] <Nechushtan> mdz: lp, mousedev, psmous...
[10:36] <ShadowRage> XML is faster and self-validating
[10:36] <ShadowRage> xml > bash scripts
[10:36] <Nechushtan> mdz: I added the ide lines I have on my laptop (ide-cd, ide-disk, ide-generic
[10:36] <mdz> Nechushtan: you should not have any ide-* in /etc/modules
[10:36] <ari_>  <Nechushtan>: Could you sujest me one, in order i can dowload from synaptic, a cool one
[10:36] <tanek> Funraiser: yeah, what news-server? :S
[10:36] <fsapo> ShadowRage, this autopackage seens interesting.. :)
[10:36] <Nechushtan> ari_: xmms-mad should be for mp3's
[10:36] <Funraiser> tanek, ok this is your newsgraber, not the best one, but it will be fine for today, you'll get my point
[10:37] <jambon> does mplayer have "issues" in ubuntu at the beginning, or am I just not treating her right
[10:37] <tanek> Funraiser: ok
[10:37] <Nechushtan> mdz: I shouldn't have them?
[10:37] <Funraiser> tanek, on you ISP contract, you have your newsserver written somewhere
[10:37] <Nechushtan> mdz: well, adding them worked =)
[10:37] <Nechushtan> ari_: what xmms- packages do you have installed?
[10:37] <tanek> Funraiser: aw, w8 ill go get it
[10:38] <mdz> Nechushtan: if you're booting from SCSI, hotplug should load all of the necessary ide drivers
[10:38] <tanek> done
[10:38] <Funraiser> tanek, it's something like smtp.yourisp.yourcountry
[10:38] <mdz> Nechushtan: of course, if you had _some_ of them in /etc/modules and not all, that would break it
[10:38] <Funraiser> tanek, mine is smtp.free.fr
[10:39] <tanek> Funraiser: yeah, i found it. and mailserver is my isp mail server?
[10:39] <mdz> which is why I asked what you had there (was the list you provided complete?)
[10:39] <ShadowRage> one weakness about sysvinit
[10:39] <Funraiser> tanek, yes
[10:39] <ShadowRage> it singletasks
[10:39] <tanek> Funraiser: incomming or outgoing?
[10:39] <ShadowRage> when you boot up, services boot up one after another
[10:39] <ShadowRage> unrelated services
[10:39] <Nechushtan> mdz: its not, so I added those three ide to my /etc/module and it seemed to work. rebooting now j-i-c
[10:39] <ShadowRage> ones that dont rely on others
[10:39] <Funraiser> tanek, errr it asks that?
[10:40] <rics> hi
[10:40] <rics> anyone from brazil here?
[10:40] <tanek> Funraiser: nah, but i've got one for each from my isp :P used the incomming
[10:40] <Nechushtan> ShadowRage: they're working on that though, I heard some folks have gotten it to boot multiple services simultaneously
[10:40] <STK_ToNhO_> rics: _o/
[10:40] <Funraiser> tanek, yeah should work
[10:40] <jeroen_> bye all
[10:40] <ShadowRage> http://jw.dyndns.org/initng/ <--- does that
[10:40] <jambon> k, mplayer crashes upon playing anything, vlc doesn't give me any sound, and totem simply never supports whatever codec the video file is in. any ideas?
[10:41] <mdz> Nechushtan: please show me the complete list of modules you have in /etc/modules
[10:41] <Echylo> what is a good virtual pc emulator for ubuntu?
[10:41] <Nechushtan> jambon: mplayer crashes? weird, what error?
[10:41] <Nechushtan> Echylo: WINE
[10:41] <jambon> it just freezes
[10:41] <Nechushtan> mdz: PM'ing
[10:41] <Echylo> Nechushtan, that's not a pc emulator
[10:41] <jambon> example playing mpeg file......
[10:41] <Echylo> wine is not even an emulator
[10:41] <anto9us> jambon, try setting mplayer to a different sound device
[10:42] <Nechushtan> Echylo: oh, like dosbox?
[10:42] <tanek> Funraiser: now what? :P
[10:42] <Nechushtan> jambon: try -nosound with mplayer
 i have installed:xmms, fmradio,goom,kjofol, kjofol-skins,mad
[10:42] <Funraiser> tanek, now if u go back to the website, which is like a website for that program u have a newsgroup adress, looks like 	alt.binaries.warez.linux for example
[10:42] <ShadowRage> anyone know how I can change the version of wine? (eg, make it say it's win 98 or win NT?)
[10:42] <Marble2> how do I move a .bin to .deb
[10:42] <Nechushtan> ari install xmms-mad
[10:42] <ProfQki> hi! maybe somebody can help me: a just installed hoary on an acer travelmate 2200 and everything work fine except the touchpad
[10:42] <Funraiser> tanek, find the newsgroup for your program
[10:42] <drac> Marble2: What .bin is that?
[10:42] <Funraiser> tanek, on the website
[10:43] <tanek> ok
[10:43] <ProfQki> i can't fix it... any idea?
[10:43] <mdz> Nechushtan: what version of hotplug do you have installed?
[10:43] <jambon> signal interrupted my moduel 15....a02init or something like that when i force quit mplayer
[10:43] <dell500> how do you build a debian package out of a tgz file?
[10:43] <ShadowRage> on another thought, launchd is also probably fast because macosx uses a microkernel
[10:43] <Nechushtan> ari_: actually xmms-mpg123
[10:43] <ShadowRage> thus, everything is loaded on start
[10:43] <Marble2> drac: javaq
[10:43] <Marble2> *java
[10:43] <Funraiser> tanek, it it says a.b.w.linux a.b.w.linux that fine, it means alt.binaries.warez.linux
[10:43] <drac> Marble2: With make-jpkg, it's in java-package.
[10:44] <Nechushtan> mdz: u get the PM?
[10:44] <tanek> ok, but i haven'nt got that grout
[10:44] <jambon> and it always gives me this New Face Failed: maybe the font path is wrong....../mplayer/subfont
[10:44] <mdz> Nechushtan: yes
[10:44] <Marble2> greg@Greg:~ $ make-jpkg
[10:44] <Marble2> bash: make-jpkg: command not found
 that one i shoul install or what obout  xmms-mpg123
[10:44] <mdz> Nechushtan: what version of hotplug do you have installed?
[10:44] <Funraiser> tanek, let's start over the website thing
[10:44] <Nechushtan> ari_: xmms-mpg123
[10:44] <dead^^> could anyone guide me with this. i got my Ubuntu just few days ago and i have a problem with copying files.
[10:44] <ari_> Nechushtan: what about that one
[10:44] <drac> Marble2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[10:44] <Funraiser> tanek, go back to the main page of that website
[10:44] <tanek> Funraiser: ok, sorry for beeing stupid :P
[10:44] <Nechushtan> ari_: install it
[10:45] <jambon> k
[10:45] <jambon> weird
[10:45] <Nechushtan> mdz: how do I tell what hotplug I have?
[10:45] <ProfQki> dead: what problem you have?
[10:45] <jambon> mplayer now works with eSound
[10:45] <ari_> Nechushtan: it doesnt apper at the repository
[10:45] <Funraiser> tanek, not at all my spelling sucks so u might be confused
[10:45] <jambon> is something inherently wrong with the alsa plugin?
[10:45] <ari_> Nechushtan: so i look for it in otehr place?
[10:45] <Funraiser> tanek, u're on the main page?
[10:45] <ProfQki> no idea with acer touchpad?
[10:45] <Nechushtan> ari_: did u add the repositories from ubuntuguide?
[10:46] <tanek> Funraiser: no it doesn't, its me beeing stupid. anyway; yes im at the main page
[10:46] <mdz> Nechushtan: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Version}\n' hotplug
[10:46] <Funraiser> tanek, on search type vmware then click search but don't click anything else
[10:47] <tanek> done
[10:47] <dead^^> ProfQki: i had files on NTFS and i tried to mount it and i think i got it, but when i try to open the files Ubuntu doesn't recognize them. so i copied them one by one so far
[10:47] <josh42> speaking of sound; how do I full 5.1 output enabled?
[10:47] <Nechushtan> mdz: 0.0.20040329-16ubuntu17
[10:47] <ari_> Nechushtan: i have this ones :http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/, http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/,http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[10:47] <dead^^> ProfQki: is there any easier option?
 with the different distribution and sections
[10:47] <Funraiser> below categorie, there are red crosses, and below it's written a.b.w.linux, do u see it?
[10:48] <Nechushtan> ari_: go to www.ubuntuguide.org
[10:48] <meho> I still need help with the printer problem
[10:48] <tanek> Funraiser: done
[10:48] <mdz> Nechushtan: with that version, you should not need to add anything to /etc/modules, and if it doesn't work, it could be a bug
[10:48] <ProfQki> dead: what dou you mean one by one?
[10:48] <nomed^> is there anyone that can past on the web a dpkg -l of the live cd ?
[10:48] <Nechushtan> mdz: ok, well, adding them works too
[10:48] <ari_> Nechushtan:ok
[10:49] <Nechushtan> ari_: give me a minute and I'll be able to step you through this, now that I got my prob solved.
[10:49] <Nechushtan> mdz: thanks, even though its not "right" it works =)
[10:49] <Funraiser> tanek, ok now click on 	 VMware 5 Workstation just on the right of that a.b.w.linux
[10:49] <tanek> done
[10:50] <dead^^> ProfQki: i cannot open the directory and i just copy them elsewhere and chmod to them one by one so i can open them
[10:50] <Funraiser> tanek, now there are many line, there is "group" alt.binaries.warez.linux
[10:50] <tanek> yeah, found it
[10:50] <ari_> Nechushtan: ok
[10:50] <ari_> Nechushtan: i wait you
[10:50] <Funraiser> tanek, ok that's the group we are looking for
[10:50] <tanek> Funraiser: ok, and i dont have that one in pan
[10:51] <Funraiser> not copy the name of the group  so copy	alt.binaries.warez.linux
[10:51] <fsapo> i m tried to run msginit but i get this: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: gnu/gettext/GetURL
[10:51] <Funraiser> tanek, and paste it pan
[10:51] <fsapo> what could be the problem?
[10:51] <mdz> Nechushtan: adding them lets you fix your problem, but it doesn't help anyone else
[10:51] <mdz> Nechushtan: I would appreciate it if you would instead help us to find the root cause and fix it, so that it works for everyone without having to make manual changes
[10:51] <tanek> Funraiser: its not there
[10:51] <Funraiser> tanek,now copy the name of the group  so copy	alt.binaries.warez.linux
[10:52] <Funraiser> tanek, and paste it in pan
[10:52] <Nechushtan> mdz: I'm all for helping, but I don't know how to fix the problem. so...
[10:52] <holycow> abs
[10:52] <mdz> Nechushtan: please go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/, file a bug using Package: hotplug, and explain the process that we just went through
[10:52] <tanek> Funraiser: done that, there is no such group as alt.binaries.warez.linux in pan
[10:53] <holycow> anyone ever setup atutomatically encrypted home directories on ubuntu by any chance? wondering what it takes to set something like that up
[10:53] <dead^^> ProfQki: can i try to explain it in private?
[10:53] <Nechushtan> ari_: ok, do a "dpkg-query -W xmms*"
[10:53] <fendermaiden> Salut
[10:53] <fendermaiden> j'ai un bon ptit probleme de carte graphique
[10:54] <fendermaiden> j'ai une nvidia gforce fx5200
[10:54] <Funraiser> tanek, u have to choose in "all groups"
[10:54] <Nechushtan> mdz: will do
[10:54] <mdz> Nechushtan: thanks
[10:54] <tanek> Funraiser: yeah, done that, and its not there
[10:54] <Funraiser> tanek, well i'm doing it it works
[10:55] <Nechushtan> mdz: any idea if the lilo installer problem was solved in cvs?
[10:55] <october> crimsun, you here?
[10:55] <tanek> Funraiser: wierd... i've got no alt.binaries at all :(
[10:55] <mdz> Nechushtan: I don't know what you mean
[10:55] <jambon> is there anyway to resize video in mplayer? and does anyone have a working vlc?
[10:55] <ari_> <Nechushtan: in a terminal i put that command:(sorry if i am a little slowly, i am new in this)
[10:55] <jambon> besides double size and fullscreen
[10:55] <october> bob2, ?
[10:55] <Nechushtan> mdz: n/m then
[10:56] <october> :(
[10:56] <Nechushtan> ari_: yes, or in synaptic do a search for xmms and tell me which ones are installed
[10:56] <Funraiser> tanek, that's weird
[10:56] <tanek> Funraiser: can it be my isp that's rejected these groups?
[10:56] <october> I've tried noacpi and nolacpi on my grub line and Ubuntu is still locking up on me.
[10:56] <tanek> is there any other newsserver i can use?
[10:56] <drac> jambon: Change video output to 'xv'.
[10:56] <october> I had no problems at all on the same box with WindowsXP.
[10:56] <Funraiser> tanek, try this one alt.binaries.cores
[10:56] <jambon> in mplayer or vlc?
[10:56] <drac> jambon: mplayer.
[10:56] <ari_> Nechushtan: i did it in a terminal
[10:57] <Nechushtan> october: whats the ish?
[10:57] <raydogg> Has anyone has any issues with using Skype in ubuntu ?
[10:57] <tanek> Funraiser: dont have any alt.binaries groups :/
[10:57] <october> Nechushtan, box locks up on me.
[10:57] <Nechushtan> ari_: which xmms packages are installed?
[10:57] <ari_> Nechushtan: i put the comand that you told me
[10:57] <raydogg> when i try to call someone it hangs on "connecting"
[10:57] <jambon> drac: mkay, any ideas on the silly font face message?
[10:57] <|Kabuto|> jambon means bacon in Turkish :)
[10:57] <Nechushtan> october: immediately, doing something specific, randomly?
[10:57] <raydogg> also, when i try to load up vmware, it fails to open my sound device ( but i have audio )
[10:57] <drac> jambon: install mplayer-fonts package.
[10:57] <jambon> ok
[10:57] <october> Nechushtan, it hasn't happened while I was doing anything today.
[10:57] <raydogg> I'm not sure exactly why the audio isn't working... it says the device is busy...
[10:57] <Funraiser> tanek, don't know if it could be your ISP or not
[10:58] <Nechushtan> ari_: what packages does it show as being installed?
[10:58] <Nechushtan> october: so its seemingly random?
[10:58] <edsuom> raydogg: Check permissions of /dev/dsp
[10:58] <Funraiser> tanek, are u sure u selected "all groups"
[10:58] <jambon> Kabuto: and it meas ham in french...what a coincidence
[10:58] <october> Nechushtan, it appears so.
[10:58] <jazzka> hi!
[10:58] <raydogg> edsuom, i tried running skype and vmware as root...
[10:58] <ari_> Nechushtan: xmms, then fmradio,goom ...
[10:58] <Nechushtan> october: what cpu/chipset?
[10:58] <raydogg> cuz we thought that might have been the issue
[10:58] <Nechushtan> ari_: ahh, ok
[10:58] <edsuom> raydogg: vmware and kde sound coexisting fine here.
[10:58] <jazzka> anyone that is able to use a gdesklet to see if there is new gmail mail?
[10:59] <ari_> Nechushtan:kjofol, kjofol-skins...
[10:59] <raydogg> you're running kubuntu?
[10:59] <edsuom> Yes
[10:59] <tanek> Funraiser: yep
[10:59] <edsuom> Well, ubuntu with kde packages installed
[10:59] <raydogg> do you have onboard intel sound?
[10:59] <october> Nechushtan, it's pIV 2.4G
[10:59] <october> it's an AX4B (I think) intel motherboard
[10:59] <october> let me triple check that.
[10:59] <edsuom> onboard, K7S41 mb.
[10:59] <ari_> Nechushtan: and the last one mad, but i did "dpkg-query -W xmms*" in a terminal
[10:59] <Nechushtan> ari_: here's what i have installed and I can play mp3's: xmms-modplug xmms-mp4
[10:59] <edsuom> ac97 device
[10:59] <Funraiser> when u choose "all groups" do u have a list of groups at least?
[11:00] <raydogg> same here
[11:00] <raydogg> ac97
[11:00] <october> Nechushtan, I have run memtest86+ on it.  and it didn't show any errors
[11:00] <edsuom> Do you have *any* sound?
[11:00] <raydogg> what do the perms on /dev/dsp look like for you?
[11:00] <raydogg> yea
[11:00] <raydogg> i do
[11:00] <Funraiser> tanek, or there are no groups at all?
[11:00] <ari_> Nechushtan: so i look for that in the synaptic???
[11:00] <edsuom> raydogg: crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 3 2005-05-03 11:57 /dev/dsp
[11:00] <Nechushtan> ari_: my xmms says it uses libmpg123.so as an input plugin for mp3's. what does yours say?
[11:00] <Nechushtan> ari_: yes
[11:00] <raydogg> thats exactly what mine is edsuom
[11:01] <october> Nechushtan, award ax45-533 R1.11
[11:01] <edsuom> Hmmm.
[11:01] <Nechushtan> october: i don't remember the P4's having APIC problems...
[11:01] <raydogg> do you have esd running ?
[11:01] <tanek> Funraiser: lots of groups, and some alt.xxx.xxx.xxx but no alt.binaries
[11:01] <Nechushtan> october: did you look in your system logs to see if anything showed up?
[11:01] <october> Nechushtan, hmmm what logs exactly should I check?
[11:01] <edsuom> raydogg: No. I'm using 2.6 kernel (standard ubuntu hoary) and alsa, not oss.
[11:02] <sig>  /var/log/messages
[11:02] <sig> tail -f /var/log/messages
[11:02] <Funraiser> tanek, doesn't sound good
[11:02] <Nechushtan> october: dmesg first, then kern.log, acpid, syslog
[11:02] <Nechushtan> hopefully one of them will give an idea
[11:02] <edsuom> raydogg: VMware 4.5
[11:02] <raydogg> I'm running 5.0
[11:02] <Funraiser> tanek, i've been wasting your time then
[11:02] <tanek> Funraiser: nope, not at all... are there no other newsservers i could use?
[11:02] <sig> 5.0 what?
[11:03] <Nechushtan> tanek: not without paying
[11:03] <ari_> Nechushtan:  libmpg123.so and  xmms-mp4 doesnt appers in my synaptic
[11:03] <tanek> Funraiser: i've been wasting your time really, thanks anyway
[11:03] <tanek> Nechushtan: :( ok too bad
[11:03] <edsuom> raydogg: It would be weird if 4.5 worked for you! You certainly are licensed for it...
[11:03] <edsuom> sig: VMware Workstation.
[11:03] <Nechushtan> ari_: in the ubuntuguide they show how to use the marillat sources, get those setup and try updating xmms
[11:03] <Anuaukko> Hmm is there ANY way to write to NTFS? i really need to remove a folder but i dont have windows installed
[11:04] <Nechushtan> tanek: yea, newsgroups have been "dieing" lately
[11:04] <Funraiser> tanek, or by finding an ISP that allows connections to binaries NGs
[11:04] <Nechushtan> Anuaukko: yes, but its dangerous
[11:04] <Funraiser> tanek, that sucks, sorry man
[11:04] <october> Nechushtan, occy.net/tmp/occy-dmesg
so i went to the page ://www.ubuntuguide.org and then i did wget -c http://ubuntuguide.org/ubuntu5.04.tar.gz
[11:04] <ari_> tar zxvf ubuntu5.04.tar.gz
[11:04] <sig> Anuaukko: http://ubuntuguide.org shows how
[11:04] <Anuaukko> Nechushtan: Heh, i dont mind, not my hd
[11:05] <Andril> anone install Clam AV?
[11:05] <josh42> if you know anyone on telus, you can use thier NG login from anywhere
[11:05] <Nechushtan> Anuaukko: then just mount it rw. it "works"
[11:05] <Nechushtan> october: logs are in : /var/log
[11:05] <Anuaukko> Nechushtan: doesnt :P
[11:05] <i3dmaster> any command to convert pic from one format to another? say jpg to png...
[11:05] <Funraiser> Andril, i did
[11:05] <Nechushtan> ari_: no, just look at the html page, what you downloaded was the guide. but you can view it online too
[11:05] <i3dmaster> any command to convert pic from one format to another? say jpg to png...
[11:06] <october> Nechushtan, http://occy.net/tmp/kern.log
[11:06] <Nechushtan> Anuaukko: really? thats how I had done it back in the day
[11:06] <Anuaukko> Nechushtan: in ntfs?
[11:06] <Andril> funraiser, what happened?
[11:06] <tanek> Funraiser: yeah, sure does.... but thanks anyway, ill probably switch isp soon anhow ;) getting 10/10 cable instead of 0.5/0.5 adsl ;)
[11:06] <Funraiser> Andril, well it worked
[11:06] <Nechushtan> october: forbidden
[11:06] <jambon> is there a way to change mplayer skins without needing to move the skin file as root?
[11:06] <Anuaukko> sig: no it doesnt show for ntfs
[11:06] <Nechushtan> Anuaukko: yea, when I was still learning linux
[11:06] <Andril> funraiser, how do you update the version?
[11:07] <Nechushtan> Anuaukko: i know its possible to mount NTFS in rw, try searching google, I'm sure you can find the command line needed
[11:07] <Funraiser> Andril, oh, i haven't yet, there is a command line i think
 i should add this to my repositories???deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main
[11:07] <ari_> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main
[11:07] <ari_> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main
[11:08] <Andril> funrasiser, ok thanks
[11:08] <raydogg> edsuom, I got it working... a process called esd was blocking it
[11:08] <raydogg> killed it and it works fine
[11:08] <raydogg> :-)
[11:08] <october> Nechushtan, sorry, reload
[11:09] <Nechushtan> ari_: yea, as directed
[11:09] <Nechushtan> october: are you running X when it freezes?
[11:09] <october> Nechushtan, yah
[11:10] <october> Nechushtan, heh, I rarely do anything in console.
 oly the ones i told you or all the list taht are in the page
[11:10] <Nechushtan> october: have you tried ssh'ing in while its frozen?
[11:10] <october> yup.
[11:10] <october> no love
[11:10] <Anuaukko> Nechushtan: is possible, BUT with http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[11:10] <october> can't even turn numlock on or off
[11:10] <Nechushtan> ari_: I add all the ones the guide lists, so sure why not =)
[11:10] <october> it's a full-on kiss your arse goodbye, type of lock-ups.
[11:11] <Nechushtan> Anuaukko: hrm, I wonder if the ntfs driver folks removed the rw abilities...
[11:11] <karljp> they disabled them yes.
[11:11] <karljp> they were sick of people moaning about data loss
[11:11] <nekohayo> I'm looking for an audio editor that allows something like noise removal in a graphical way.. soemthing like a frequency cutter. Does that exist under linux?
[11:11] <josh42> that's what happens when things break
[11:11] <mdz> glyph: the only reliable way to build modules for a kernel that has already been built is to use the -headers package for that kernel
[11:11] <october> I've been running Ubuntu on my laptop for eons and with no problems.  Hoary too.
[11:12] <josh42> nekahayo - there is one; audacity
[11:12] <october> So that's what has me sorta wondering why this desktop has this problem.
[11:12] <october> Yet, when I stuck windows on it... to see if it'd do the same thing.  It didn't lock up at all
[11:12] <october> not once on 2 or 3 months I had it and was using it with Windows on it.
[11:12] <nekohayo> josh42, did you try it? I did not see anything like that which would allow me to cut precisely a frequency range
[11:12] <Nechushtan> Anuaukko: apparently no go =(
[11:12] <october> (had it so I could check my website designs in IE6 heh)
[11:13] <october> *sigh*
[11:13] <october> this is a suck.
[11:13] <Nechushtan> october: well this sucks =)
[11:13] <october> Nechushtan, yah.... I might have to install Fedora 4(shiver) on it just to test to see if it might be something compiled into the Ubuntu kernel.
[11:13] <Nechushtan> october: I'm gunna say its a driver bug, just which, and why...
[11:13] <josh42> nekohayo: I used it before, and I remember there being sliders and ways to select things.. I was pretty sure frequency was an option for selecting
[11:13] <october> as much as I hate using FC compared to the U
[11:14] <nekohayo> I'll take another look
[11:14] <Nechushtan> october: thats an idea. I'd say try Kanotix first though
[11:14] <october> Kanotix ?
[11:14] <october> haven't heard of that one.
[11:14] <Nechushtan> ari_: how goes it
[11:14] <dell500> anyone know how to clear the Location bar in konquer??
[11:14] <Nechushtan> october: kanotix is another debian based live-cd distro
[11:14] <october> Nechushtan, sweet
[11:14] <october> Might even just try Debian Unstable.
[11:14] <october> :/
[11:15] <october> meh
[11:15] <Nechushtan> october: yea, try that, don't even bother installing it, see if it has the same ish. you can even have it use your existing /home/
[11:15] <nekohayo> dell500, isn't there a button just for that?
[11:15] <nekohayo> in the toolbar or something
[11:15] <october> Nechushtan, well, it probably will take some time for it to happen.
[11:15] <october> And I don't feel like running off of CD to do my work.
[11:15] <october> heh
[11:15] <october> Nechushtan, tx for your time.  I'll check back and see if anything turns up.  (I'm normally on here as occy btw)
[11:16] <Fator_Dee> Help! Misbehaving Gnome-panel located http://www.edu.haapavesi.fi/%7Emikko.niemela/Screenshot.png How can I get it back in its original shape (like the lower panel), I can't grab it because the shortcuts are on the way :-\
[11:16] <october> bbl gang.
[11:16] <ting> hi i use ubuntu for the first time
[11:16] <dell500> hmm that's wierd
[11:16] <Nechushtan> october: if kanotix runs fine off the cd, try the hd-install and see what happens
[11:16] <tvih> hm, how exactly can I get iso8859 to be default instead of utf8?
[11:16] <Nechushtan> october: though one of the log files prbly has a hint as to the problem if you read through them
[11:16] <dell500> i right click and 'Clear History', and it works fine, you go into config for konqueror and clear it, and it doesn't do anything
[11:16] <Fator_Dee> and yes, my background is just black
[11:16] <dell500> maybe a restart for konqueror would do, oh well
[11:17] <ari_> Nechushtan: i did it which ones you told me i have to loof for in the synaptic
[11:17] <fsapo> hum... looking at that autopackage stuff made me think about a project but i dunno if it is a good idea O.o
[11:17] <Funraiser> Andril, to update clamav one has to use freshclam
[11:19] <ari_> Nechushtan: i did it which ones you told me i have to loof for in the synaptic
[11:20] <Nechushtan> ari_: try xmms-mp4 and xmms-modplug
[11:21] <ari_> ???
[11:21] <Funraiser> Andril, just type sudo freshclam
[11:21] <calavera> hi. i tried to install hoary via debootstrap (the standard kernel does not work on my computer) and did everything according to the knoppix install howto in the wiki (which i admit is for warty). but i get a "cannot find initrd device
[11:21] <Nechushtan> ari_: you said your xmms shows it using libmpg123 right?
[11:22] <calavera> and later on it hangs with "Setting up ICE socket directory
[11:23] <ari_> ???. nop
[11:23] <QMario>    	 	 	 	 	 	 		 	   -Questions:     	 	 	 	 	 	 		 	   -Questions:
[11:23] <calavera> any idea what might cause that step to fail in particular?
[11:23] <leitao> please, i cant play a .avi movie. i installed w32codecs and gst-plugins. i get the following message: ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-xvid
[11:23] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:23] <leitao> why?
[11:24] <Nechushtan> ari_: hrm. try reinstalling xmms cause mine shows it as being installed
 i have already xmms-modplug the only that i dont have is  xmms-mp4
[11:24] <shido6> suicide or superior sniper skills, QMario
[11:24] <Nechushtan> ari_: try the mp4 one. other than that, its got to be in the standard xmms package cause thats all I have and it plays mp3's fine
 and now i will try to download xmms-mp4
[11:25] <elmaya> leitao, install vlc
[11:25] <Funraiser> all right good night all (good day for those west of me) il Andrill comes back please tell him that to update clamAV he has to type: sudo freshclam
[11:25] <leitao> elmaya : vlc? i'll see what is vlc.
[11:25] <elmaya> vlc media player
[11:25] <elmaya> plays everything
[11:25] <ari_> Nechushtan: i reinstall before be in the chanel, the xmms
[11:26] <leitao> elmaya : i am installing it. :-)  thx
[11:26] <Nechushtan> after adding the new repositories?
[11:26] <Funraiser> elmaya, yeah except .bin files and vlc screwed my system too
[11:26] <ari_> Nechushtan: now is downloading the mp4
[11:26] <elmaya> hehe
[11:26] <sig> sleep doesn't work on my laptop anymore
[11:26] <sig> it did in warty
[11:26] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:27] <sig> I created a shortcut key to "sleep" but it doesn't work
[11:27] <ryman> are there any good browser for ubuntu beside Firefox ? My firefox keep crashing randomly
[11:27] <josh42> how do I set smbumount suid root?
[11:28] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:28] <glyph> mdz: I would love to do that, but the linux-cifs-client package unfortunately provides no makefile, no debian package, and no instructions for how to build outside of the kernel tree
[11:28] <calavera> josh42: sudo chmod g+s smbumount
[11:29] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:29] <stuNNed> so with ubuntu i don't really need to install a firewall system?
[11:29] <hybrid_goth> hello
[11:29] <calavera> anyone know what could cause a "Cannot find initrd device"
[11:29] <stuNNed> and if i should which frontend to iptables do you guys recommend?
[11:29] <ari_> Nechushtan: now is being installed mp4, and also it said this: unpackage libfaad2-0_2.0.0-0.5_i386.deb,
[11:29] <dataw0lf|w> stuNNed: vi and bash.
[11:30] <josh42> calavera; that went through w/no error, but i still get a message that says it needs to be suid
[11:30] <Nechushtan> ari_: yea, thats just for mp4's...
[11:30] <stuNNed> dataw0lf|w: not the answer i was looking for but ok :)
[11:30] <Nechushtan> ari_: type "locate libmpg123"
[11:30] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:30] <ari_> <Nechushtan: in a terminal right?
[11:30] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:30] <dataw0lf|w> stuNNed: it'll take you longer, but by the time you're finished, you'll know what's going on.
[11:31] <Nechushtan> ari_: yea
[11:31] <ari_> Nechushtan: ok i did it
[11:31] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:31] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:31] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:31] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:31] <ari_> Nechushtan: i found it
[11:31] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT? How do you log out of SWAT? How do you log out of SWAT? How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:31] <calavera> josh42: you could try "sudo chmod o+s smbumount" but keep in mind that that is not a particulary secure setup
[11:31] <stuNNed> dataw0lf|w: some simple rules should suffice, no?
[11:31] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:31] <QMario>  How do you log out of SWAT?
[11:31] <dataw0lf|w> stuNNed: depends on what you're trying to do.
[11:31] <ari_> Nechushtan:warning: locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old
[11:31] <ari_> /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmpg123.so
[11:31] <Nechushtan> ari_: so it is there... then I don't know why you can play mp3's
[11:31] <ari_> ok let me try to play it
[11:32] <Nechushtan> ari_: updatedb will update your locate database
[11:32] <josh42> QMario; dont be an ass - yes it's frustrating; if noone knows, you get no answer
[11:32] <stazz> QMario: by flooding a channel
[11:32] <Nechushtan> QMario: quit? exit?...
[11:32] <stuNNed> dataw0lf|w: i see no init scripts to start with ...
[11:32] <ari_> Nechushtan: i update my system 3 days ago
[11:32] <josh42> QMario: killall -9 1?
[11:32] <ari_> Nechushtan:you mean that with  updatedb?
[11:32] <dataw0lf|w> SWAT is a browser based Samba config.
[11:32] <dataw0lf|w> +tool
[11:33] <dataw0lf|w> Exit
[11:33] <dataw0lf|w> Out
[11:33] <dataw0lf|w> The
[11:33] <glyph> calavera: is that message something you're getting at boot?
[11:33] <dataw0lf|w> Browser
[11:33] <Nechushtan> updatedb will update the locate database
[11:33] <calavera> glyph: yes.
[11:33] <thotypous> 1
[11:33] <calavera> glyph: i just debootstrapped a hoary onto my computer, but theres something missing apparently.
[11:34] <glyph> calavera: IIRC, it means that you built an initrd kernel package but you didn't install the initrd tools properly
[11:34] <ari_> Nechushtan: so i update it 3 days ago
[11:34] <ari_>  Nechushtan it still withow working
[11:34] <dataw0lf|w> stuNNed: google for an iptables tutorial
[11:34] <glyph> calavera: Hmm, I don't recognize that failure in that situation
[11:34] <calavera> glyph: well i installed the 2.6.11-1 kernel-image and initrd since 2.6.10 does not work on my computer
[11:34] <ari_>  Nechushtan: i should reset it , and see what happen
[11:35] <josh42> calavera; Hrm, looks like that app just wants to complain - I'll play with it, thank you
[11:35] <ShadowRage> Gdk-ERROR **: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[11:35] <ShadowRage>   serial 77 error_code 11 request_code 141 minor_code 19
[11:35] <ShadowRage> Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x2e91)!
[11:35] <ShadowRage> whenever I play dvd's
[11:35] <Nechushtan> ari_: hrmmm.... type "dpkg-query -W xmms" and what version does it show?
[11:35] <calavera> glyph: i noticed that the grub autoconfiguration magic is gone. had to roll my own grub.conf
[11:35] <dataw0lf|w> stuNNed: all it is is putting a bunch of iptables commands into a bash script adding it appropriately to your runlevel.
[11:35] <Nechushtan> ari_: can you play other audio files via xmms?
[11:37] <calavera> glyph: i suspect this is in some way connected with udev. since it also complains a lot later on while "Setting up LVM Volume Groups" that it "could not append to parent for md/*"... this is weird
[11:37] <ari_> Nechushtan: i did dpkg-query -W xmms, and yes i put a cd music, and it played, then i puit a cd with mp3 and it doesnt played and it frizzed
[11:37] <shinu> bye ppl
[11:38] <ari_>  Nechushtan: and the mp3 in my hdisck also it doesnt play
[11:39] <dell500> whenever i run something lately, i get this error right after running the program, ie synaptic, 'Fontconfig error: "~/.fonts.conf", line 1: no element found'  I ran the command 'touch ~/.fonts/config' or something, i think this has to do with it
[11:40] <thr1ce> no, touching it won't give you an error
[11:40] <thr1ce> that should just change the timestamp
[11:40] <ari_> Nechushtan: i did what you told me but it still without working , i can try to restart the system, and then see what happen, what do you think?
[11:41] <Nechushtan> ari_: what output plugin is xmms using?
[11:41] <Nechushtan> ari_: rebooting is not needed in linux
[11:41] <thr1ce> ari_, unless you changed kernels or added hardware, restarting won't do anything
[11:42] <glyph> calavera: Wow, I thought I was confused about my problem ;)
 how can i know which output plugin is xmms using, where i have to look for?
 thanks
[11:43] <Nechushtan> in "Preferences>Audio I/O Plugins" it says "Output Plugin"
[11:43] <thr1ce> in preferences
[11:44] <ari_> <Nechushtan: ok
[11:44] <ari_> <Nechushtan: let me see
[11:44] <dell500> thr1ce, well why does it have that error there every time i run some command in term??
[11:44] <Nechushtan> anyone remember how to clear the screen after logout?
[11:45] <thr1ce> clear?
[11:45] <Nechushtan> thr1ce: when you logout it doesn't clear the screen before showing the next login prompt, so you can see the previous activities. i forgot where to change this behaviour...
[11:46] <ShadowRage> rhythmbox keeps segfaulting
[11:46] <ShadowRage> sadfasdf
[11:46] <Tobi1051> dd
[11:46] <Tobi1051> hello?
[11:47] <Tobi1051> ?
[11:47] <ari_> <Nechushtan: i went to deskopt preference>audio> and there is nothing about plugins
[11:47] <thr1ce> Tobi1051, what?
[11:47] <Nechushtan> ari_: within xmms
[11:47] <thr1ce> ari_, he told you EXACTLY where to look; don't be retarded
[11:48] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:48] <Nechushtan> thr1ce: calm down dude
[11:48] <edsuom> Where in sudoers does it specify that only the install-created account can sudo? I'm not seeing it!?!?
[11:48] <Tobi1051> hi confrey
[11:48] <ShadowRage> why does rhythmbox keep segfaulting?
[11:48] <confrey> why don't phpgroupware and egroupware work?
[11:48] <Nechushtan> edsuom: it should list which users have what abilities. at a minimum root should be there
[11:49] <edsuom> Yeah, root is there, but not my user account. And I only need *my* password to sudo.
[11:49] <thr1ce> xmms-options-preferences-AUDIO I/O Plugin
[11:49] <thr1ce> then output plugin
[11:49] <Nechushtan> ShadowRage: cause it hates you =) does it segfault right away or while doing something? have you tried running it from a console to see what errors it gives?
[11:49] <ari_> <Nechushtan: ok
[11:49] <Nechushtan> edsuom: so your user account can sudo but its not in the sudoer file?
[11:50] <ShadowRage> Nechushtan: yes
[11:50] <ShadowRage> Nechushtan: load a library of songs
[11:50] <ShadowRage> *CRASH*
[11:50] <ShadowRage> and just says segfault
[11:50] <edsuom> Nechustan: Yes, because sodoers says "root ALL=(ALL)"
[11:50] <ShadowRage> Nechushtan: also, I cant play dvd's I get an insufficient resources error
 i have 4
 oss 1.2.10
[11:51] <Nechushtan> ari_: is that the sound system you have installed?
alsa1.2.10
[11:51] <Nechushtan> ShadowRage: dvd playback with rythmbox or?
[11:51] <Nechushtan> ari_: change the plugin to alsa and try it
 e sound 1.2.10
[11:51] <ShadowRage> Nechushtan: totem and vlc
ok
[11:52] <ShadowRage> Nechushtan: it seems to be a GTK issue
[11:52] <Nechushtan> edsuom: thats really weird, i dunno about that, sorry
 it failed
[11:52] <Nechushtan> ShadowRage: try and dist-update
 it works with esound
[11:52] <Nechushtan> err dist-uprgade
[11:52] <ari_>  plug in
[11:53] <Nechushtan> ari_: then use that =)
[11:53] <ShadowRage> Nechushtan: but I just did
[11:53] <ShadowRage> Nechushtan: I dont think I can do it again
[11:53] <ShadowRage> ;)
[11:53] <Nechushtan> ari_: figured it might have been an output issue...
 thak you very much and thanks for your patiens
you know, i am new in this
[11:54] <Nechushtan> ShadowRage: yea, if u just did it... i dunno. could be your right, seems like a gtk issue. dunno what though. have you tried mplayer?
 but i don't know how it changed, as i todl you yesterday it works
[11:54] <Nechushtan> ari_: we all were at one time, just passing on the knowledge
[11:55] <dell500> w00t, one step closer to CSS :)
[11:55] <Nechushtan> ari_: yea, i dunno either. but esound obviously has it figured out, so let it do its job and things should be ok now =)
[11:55] <Garathor> Is it possible to make gnome-terminal use iso8859-15?
 also i want to ask you about what about the patetns problem
[11:56] <Nechushtan> now to figure out why azureus won't run...
[11:56] <Nechushtan> patetns?