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mkdehi hypatia, Burgundavia 12:43
hypatiamorning12:43
mkdehow are things?12:44
Burgundaviagood12:45
BurgundaviaI am planning my next big project12:45
mkdewhats that?12:45
BurgundaviaUbuntu in inuktitut12:45
Burgundaviathe inuit language12:45
mkdeyou mean a translation?12:46
Burgundaviayes12:46
mkdecool12:46
mkdedo you speak it?12:46
Burgundaviathere are some serious hurdles12:46
Burgundaviano, I can't speak it12:46
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mkdehieroglyphics12:47
BurgundaviaI need a gpl-ed font I think12:47
mkdelack of words for things12:47
Burgundaviaprobably12:48
mkdemaybe you can get someone to release the font under GPL12:48
mkdeif you're persuasive12:48
Burgundaviathere are already some fonts out there12:48
mkdeyeah i see12:48
Burgundaviathat can be freely downloaded12:48
mkdehttp://www.gov.nu.ca/font.htm12:48
Burgundaviabut I need gpl-ed to put into the base12:48
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mkdenow, i've delayed the obvious question for a while12:49
mkdewhy/12:49
mkde?12:49
Burgundaviawhy not?12:49
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mkderephrase12:49
mkdewhy you?12:49
mkdedon't say it...12:50
Burgundavianobody else is doing it?12:50
mkdefair enough12:50
mkdewell best of luck12:50
Burgundaviathere is some translation work done already12:50
mkderight12:50
mkdewhat sort of user base are we talking?12:50
Burgundaviaprobably just needs some polishing and political boost12:50
Burgundaviathe 2nd part would be putting computers into small communities in Nunavut12:51
mkdesee if you can get some money off shuttleworth12:51
BurgundaviaI am thinking fed. gov as well12:52
mkdego for it12:52
mkdehow the hell do you get these ideas12:52
BurgundaviaI don't know12:53
Burgundaviafrom my mind?12:53
mkdeno drugs involved at all?12:55
mkde:p12:55
mkdecool idea anyhow12:55
Burgundavianope, no drugs12:56
mkdei'm off to bed12:57
mkdebest of luck with this project12:57
mkdenight12:57
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jsgotangcogood morning03:18
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lexxan_Well i got a better idea for the bot.. my p166 laptop :P03:54
lexxan_installing sarge now via floppy :P03:55
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bob2is "dennis craven" here?06:05
jsgotangcono idea who this guy is sorry06:07
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lexxanbob2, Could we give the [uhelp]  voice to put it at the top of the list?06:47
lexxan*you06:47
bob2why?06:47
lexxanI don't know Burgundavia wanted it there and someone else06:48
lexxanjust forget it06:48
bob2ok06:48
lexxanThey can deal with it :P06:48
lexxani'll make sure it runs06:49
lexxan!learn add bug To report bugs see - http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com06:49
Burgundavialexxan06:51
Burgundavianot quite correct06:51
lexxanok..06:52
lexxanI don't know as much as you guys so fix whatever :P06:52
Burgundaviawell technically, universe bugs go to malone06:53
bob2how do you delete incorrect factoids?06:53
Burgundavia bang del blah06:54
Burgundaviabang learn del blah06:54
bob2!del add bug06:54
bob2!info add bug06:54
lexxan!learn del bug06:54
bob2not a blootbot it seems, that's a shame06:55
lexxanWhere do i get that?06:55
lexxanI want the best script :/06:55
lexxanah06:55
lexxanperl bot06:55
bob2blootbot.sf.net06:55
lexxanDoes it work off ??06:55
bob2very nice for this sort of thing06:55
bob2"work off"?06:55
lexxanIs it the same format06:56
bob2you can do whatever trigger character you like06:56
lexxanah ok06:56
bob2?? is a bad choice, imho06:56
[uhelp] is[x] : No defenition found for word.06:56
lexxanwhy is that06:56
lexxanyou'd rather go [uhelp] , tell john about root06:56
lexxanor something??06:56
bob2anything that encourages people to use more than "?" is bad ;)06:56
bob2!tell john about root06:56
lexxanthat's not bad06:57
lexxanblootbot does that?06:57
bob2of course06:57
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lexxanWorkin on it07:11
lexxantakes awhile to install mysql on a 166 laptop07:11
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lexxanhaha07:16
lexxanroot07:16
lexxan!tell lexxan about root07:17
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lexxantopic [help] 07:23
lexxan!topic help07:24
lexxanno clue how to use this thing :P07:24
lexxanhopefully its secure07:25
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lexxanchanstats07:29
lexxan!chanstats07:29
lexxan@chanstats07:29
lexxanroot is at sfasdfasgdsdg07:31
lexxanwhere can i find root?07:31
lexxan;/07:31
lexxanadd root blah07:33
lexxantopic add root blah07:34
bob2?07:34
lexxan!info blah07:34
lexxanI have no idea how to use this thing lol.07:34
lexxanuhelp: test is testing07:34
uhelplexxan: okay07:34
lexxanuhelp: testing?07:35
uhelplexxan: are you smoking crack?07:35
lexxanuhelp: test?07:35
uhelptest is, like, testing07:35
lexxanlol.07:35
bob2uhelp: testing07:35
uhelpbob2: i don't know07:35
bob2uhelp: test07:35
uhelpsomebody said test was testing07:35
bob2uhelp: fnord is This is a pointless factoid.07:36
uhelpbob2: okay07:36
bob2!fnord07:36
bob2!fnord07:36
lexxan!fnord07:36
bob2uhelp: fnord07:36
uhelpsomebody said fnord was This is a pointless factoid.07:36
bob2you set the trigger character to something else07:36
lexxanIf i can find that setting07:38
lexxanheh07:38
lexxanuhelp: uptime07:38
lexxantopic fnord07:41
lexxan!topic fnord07:41
lexxan@fnord07:42
bob2the bot is not going to change the topic07:42
bob2uhelp: stats07:43
uhelpSince Tue May  3 23:29:12 2005, there have been 2 modifications and 3 questions and 8 dunnos and 0 morons and 8 commands.  I have been awake for 15m 19s this session, and currently reference 2 factoids.  I'm using about 14872 kB of memory.07:43
lexxanno shit07:43
lexxanhmm07:43
lexxanI can't find a trigger setting anywhere07:43
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lexxanuhelp: stats07:46
uhelpSince Tue May  3 23:48:01 2005, there have been 0 modifications and 0 questions and 0 dunnos and 0 morons and 0 commands.  I have been awake for 13s this session, and currently reference 2 factoids.  I'm using about 14748 kB of memory.07:46
lexxanCan you still access it bob2?07:47
bob2uhelp: fnord07:49
uhelpfnord is, like, This is a pointless factoid.07:49
lexxanhmm07:49
lexxantell lexxan about fnord07:49
lexxanuhelp: tell lexxan about fnord07:49
lexxanWhat's so great about this bot haha07:49
bob2...07:49
bob2the fact it's not annoying07:49
bob2you tell it things07:50
bob2it repeats them07:50
lexxanHow is that any different07:50
lexxanthe only diff i see is it uses mysql07:50
lexxanuhelp: you are ugly.07:50
uhelplexxan: I think you lost me on that one07:50
lexxan!tell lexxan about fnord07:51
lexxan=[07:51
lexxanI think i'd rather run infobot07:52
bob2blootbot is infobot07:52
bob2but actually maintained07:52
lexxanIt'd be nice if there was documentation07:54
lexxanheh07:54
lexxan!del fnord07:55
lexxanI can't even dcc the bot07:56
lexxannor is the userfile even working07:56
lexxan=[07:56
bob2er07:56
bob2why on earth would you dcc it?07:56
lexxanI don't know.. the crappy README says you can07:57
bob2but why would you want to?07:59
lexxanwho knows07:59
lexxanI think you can do admin commands or something07:59
lexxanso basically it works fine except the trigger?08:00
bob2why would you do admin commands in dcc?08:01
lexxanYou tell me.08:01
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_froud_African Greetings08:03
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bob2I don't know why anyone would08:04
jsgotangcohi froud 08:05
froudhi08:05
lexxanHmm I'd use this bot if the trigger would work08:05
jsgotangcofroud, not so much activity in svn lately? im about to do stuff now08:07
froudyeah, everyone is talking but no work :-(08:07
jsgotangcofroud, don't worry let's just do what we're supposed to do ive been silent on the list as well lately but it does not mean anything :)08:08
froud:-) some of us are working behind the scenes ;-)08:08
jsgotangcowho's pulling stuff now?08:10
froudhuh?08:10
jsgotangcoi mean do we have new people doing stuff?08:11
froudno, just a few of us are hacking various parts08:11
froudjeff-away is progressing with the styleguide08:11
jsgotangcoah right08:11
froudI am working on installation08:11
froudand user guide08:12
jsgotangcothat leaves me with kubuntu stuff then08:12
jsgotangcothat's great08:12
froudno I have my eye on kubuntu08:12
jsgotangcook08:12
froudi was waiting for you to get ahead with kwickguide08:13
froudthen planned helping you08:13
jsgotangcoim starting to get some steam again now after going home08:13
froudyeah takes some effort to get back to normal after UDU08:14
froudnow I wait to see what the outcomes for UDU are?08:14
jsgotangcoyeah i also have a couple of ToDo08:14
jsgotangcowell i was wondering about some of my ToDo08:15
jsgotangcowe're supposed to do a flyer of sorts for conferences08:15
jsgotangcobut i was thinking maybe themarketing people are better off with these things08:15
BurgundaviaI already have the beginnings of one08:15
BurgundaviaI just haven't committed it08:15
frouddepends on what the flyer is supposed to do08:15
froudyeah burgy has some ideas08:16
Burgundaviawe also have 2 paper sizes and other stuff08:16
frouddone in inkscape so it is xml08:16
jsgotangcook let me pull out my activity page08:16
jsgotangcothats great08:17
jsgotangcoi didnt know inkscape does xml08:17
Burgundaviasvg is xml08:18
Burgundaviaand OO can export svg to pdf08:18
froudyes08:18
jsgotangcohttp://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences?highlight=%28JeromeGotangcoActivity%29%7C%28SpecAssignments%29%7C%28JeromeGotangcoQueue%2908:18
froudw3c08:18
jsgotangcopardon my ignorance08:18
froudOOo is also xml08:18
BurgundaviaOO drawing can also do SVG08:19
jsgotangcook i know that OOo is in xml08:19
froudjust unzip the sxw and you get xml08:19
jsgotangcohttp://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences08:19
froudXML RULES THE WORLD08:19
jsgotangcook i know some of that stuff so don't shove it on my face :)08:19
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froudprod prod08:20
jsgotangcoi borked my laptop during UDU and still recovering my stuff thats why i havent committed at all08:20
Burgundaviaouch08:21
jsgotangcoare there any MS Project viewers available in linux?08:22
Burgundavianot yet08:22
Burgundaviaimendio project has it on the roadmap08:22
jsgotangcoouch08:22
Burgundaviaproject in the repos08:22
Burgundaviaplanner08:22
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BurgundaviaA: We're just getting started in this area. In the 0.13 version, a simple importer for the XML exchange format supported by MS Project 2002 and later.08:23
Burgundavia.13 isn't packaged for anything yet08:24
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Burgundaviaoh wait08:25
lexxanDoes anyone else here wanna run the infobot?08:25
Burgundaviatesting has it08:25
Burgundaviaso does unstable08:25
Burgundaviaso it just needs to sync08:25
Burgundaviait may have already08:25
Burgundaviaconfirmed, breezy has it08:25
Burgundaviahttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/planner/ if you have a pbuilder chroot08:26
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lexxanK well was fun helping out. bye08:30
jeffschgood evening08:33
jeffschany ideas on dictionary we can use for style guide?08:33
froudWbsters?08:34
jeffschsomething free would be nice08:35
froudcomputerdictionary.tsf.org.za08:35
froudStill needs work though08:35
froudBut Websters is online08:36
froudFOLDOC08:36
jeffschI was thinking maybe aspell08:37
froudspellchecker08:37
jeffschyes08:37
froudhardly a dictionary08:37
jeffschtrue. but it has the spelling of words, which is the biggest part of the dictionary we need for our purposes08:38
jeffschand it can be customised08:38
frouddict.org08:38
froudthat is free08:39
froudbraod database08:39
froudand I can use Kdictionary08:39
jeffschThe connection was refuse while attempting to contact dict.org08:39
froud:-)08:39
froudhttp://www.dict.org08:39
froudOn KDE we have K Dictionary which queries dict.org servers08:40
frouddunno about gnome?08:40
froudbut there must be someting like it08:40
jeffschthere is also Gnome Dictionary. it connects to many of the same dicts as dict.org08:40
froudyeah they are just front ends08:41
jeffschgood for defs, but confusing for spelling08:41
froudMy take is that we use US spell08:41
froudSo long as definition and spelling can be found in a US dict I am happy08:41
froudI know that sounds strange comming from a south african08:42
froudI should be punting UK en08:42
froudbut really US spelling is better08:42
froud:-)08:42
froudFlame war08:42
froudYahooooooo08:42
froud!!!08:42
jeffschUS spelling is usually more straight forward08:42
jeffschCanadian spelling is a compromise between US and UK08:43
froudHey, no compromises08:43
froud:-)08:43
jeffschwe should stick with US08:43
froudOver at computerdictionary I am building a docbook glosaary database08:43
froudSpell US08:44
froudHere are my guidelines08:44
froudhttp://computerdictionary.tsf.org.za/project/index.html#Dictionary+Guidelines08:44
jsgotangcoi go for us spelling08:44
froudhooray for jsgotangco 08:45
jeffschTurabian? wut dat?08:45
jsgotangcobut i prefer the uk way of speaking hehe08:46
froudnow we just need the ozzies and the brits to agree08:46
froudChicago/Turabian style.08:46
mdkeUS spelling?08:47
froudhttp://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/cmosfaq.html08:47
mdkethere is no such spelling08:47
jeffschI know of Chicago, but never see Chicago/Turabian08:47
froudmdke: yes, and yes there is08:47
froudThat is Turabian08:47
jsgotangcoa brit take him!08:47
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mdkeyou'll never take me alive08:47
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jsgotangcofroud, you know mark collet?08:48
froudshould I?08:48
jsgotangcoumm no just wondering08:48
jsgotangcohow about adi atta08:48
froudadi yes08:48
jsgotangcoahh right08:48
froudmark collect from OOo08:48
jsgotangcoshes the one involved in xhosa right08:48
froudyes08:48
froudshe gave us the xhosa xh08:49
jsgotangcoyes shes nice08:49
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jsgotangcoheh08:49
froudmark is down in Durban08:49
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froudyes08:49
froud:) big smile08:50
jsgotangcobut xh is a tribal language right?08:50
froudyes08:50
froudone of our 1108:50
jsgotangcohow about afrikaans08:51
froudlike old dutch08:51
froudor flemish08:51
jsgotangcointeresting08:51
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froudvery much an african language though08:51
jeffschaha! Turabian is for citations08:53
jsgotangcoadi gave me a lot of stickers thats why i remember her08:54
froudjeffsch: yes08:55
froudcms is great08:55
frouddefinitive08:55
froudbut I also like Newton08:56
froud"Newtons telcom dictionary"08:56
froudbut it is not online08:56
jeffschand cms only has index online08:56
Burgundaviajsgotangco, do you want me to build planner in a pbuilder chroot and install it so that you can extract that project stuff?08:56
jeffschyou still must buy the book08:56
froudregister and the world opens08:57
froudevery writer should have a copy08:57
jsgotangcoBurgundavia, not familiar with what you are saying but if i get to open that project file without any hitch im grateful08:57
Burgundaviaok08:57
BurgundaviaI will not be able to get to it tell tomorrow night though08:58
jeffschI like Simon and Schuster Handboolk for Writers08:58
jsgotangcoBurgundavia, no worries08:58
froudnot widely used, but also good08:58
Burgundaviaok08:58
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Burgundavianight all09:03
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KinnisonMorning09:13
jsgotangcomorning to you Kinnison 09:22
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jsgotangcobye bye11:15
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mdkesup y'all07:27
jjessehello mdke07:31
mdkehi jjesse 07:32
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