=== Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.135.95] has joined #ubuntu-doc === hypatia [~mary@CommSecureAustPtyLtd.sb1.optus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:43] hi hypatia, Burgundavia [12:43] morning [12:44] how are things? [12:45] good [12:45] I am planning my next big project [12:45] whats that? [12:45] Ubuntu in inuktitut [12:45] the inuit language [12:46] you mean a translation? [12:46] yes [12:46] cool [12:46] do you speak it? [12:46] there are some serious hurdles [12:46] no, I can't speak it === mkde immagines the hurdles [12:47] hieroglyphics [12:47] I need a gpl-ed font I think [12:47] lack of words for things [12:48] probably [12:48] maybe you can get someone to release the font under GPL [12:48] if you're persuasive [12:48] there are already some fonts out there [12:48] yeah i see [12:48] that can be freely downloaded [12:48] http://www.gov.nu.ca/font.htm [12:48] but I need gpl-ed to put into the base === mkde nods [12:49] now, i've delayed the obvious question for a while [12:49] why/ [12:49] ? [12:49] why not? === mkde nods [12:49] rephrase [12:49] why you? [12:50] don't say it... [12:50] nobody else is doing it? [12:50] fair enough [12:50] well best of luck [12:50] there is some translation work done already [12:50] right [12:50] what sort of user base are we talking? [12:50] probably just needs some polishing and political boost [12:51] the 2nd part would be putting computers into small communities in Nunavut [12:51] see if you can get some money off shuttleworth [12:52] I am thinking fed. gov as well [12:52] go for it [12:52] how the hell do you get these ideas [12:53] I don't know [12:53] from my mind? [12:55] no drugs involved at all? [12:55] :p [12:55] cool idea anyhow [12:56] nope, no drugs [12:57] i'm off to bed [12:57] best of luck with this project [12:57] night === solomarv [~rouslan@cpe-66-65-253-163.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === solomarv [~rouslan@cpe-66-65-253-163.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === [uhelp] [~uhelp@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lexxan [~lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === [uhelp] [~uhelp@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:18] good morning === lexxan [~lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lexxan_ [~lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:54] Well i got a better idea for the bot.. my p166 laptop :P [03:55] installing sarge now via floppy :P === [uhelp] [~uhelp@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lexxan [~lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-doc === [uhelp] [~uhelp@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === [uhelp] - [~uhelp@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === hypatia [~mary@CommSecureAustPtyLtd.sb1.optus.net.au] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] [06:05] is "dennis craven" here? [06:07] no idea who this guy is sorry === lexxan [~lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.135.95] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cc [~cc@byte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc === levin [levin@levin-pdpc.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu-doc === panickedthumb [~travis@68.118.21.165] has joined #ubuntu-doc === thegreedyturtle [~thegreedy@user-0c93oto.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === asw [~asw@node-423a728a.bos.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Kinnison [~dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === [uhelp] [lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === [uhelp] [lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === [uhelp] [~uhelp@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lexxan [~lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:47] bob2, Could we give the [uhelp] voice to put it at the top of the list? [06:47] *you [06:47] why? [06:48] I don't know Burgundavia wanted it there and someone else [06:48] just forget it [06:48] ok [06:48] They can deal with it :P [06:49] i'll make sure it runs [06:49] !learn add bug To report bugs see - http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com [06:51] lexxan [06:51] not quite correct [06:52] ok.. [06:52] I don't know as much as you guys so fix whatever :P [06:53] well technically, universe bugs go to malone [06:53] how do you delete incorrect factoids? [06:54] bang del blah [06:54] bang learn del blah [06:54] !del add bug [06:54] !info add bug [06:54] !learn del bug [06:55] not a blootbot it seems, that's a shame [06:55] Where do i get that? [06:55] I want the best script :/ [06:55] ah [06:55] perl bot [06:55] blootbot.sf.net [06:55] Does it work off ?? [06:55] very nice for this sort of thing [06:55] "work off"? [06:56] Is it the same format [06:56] you can do whatever trigger character you like [06:56] ah ok [06:56] ?? is a bad choice, imho [06:56] <[uhelp] > is[x] : No defenition found for word. [06:56] why is that [06:56] you'd rather go [uhelp] , tell john about root [06:56] or something?? [06:56] anything that encourages people to use more than "?" is bad ;) [06:56] !tell john about root [06:57] that's not bad [06:57] blootbot does that? [06:57] of course === thegreedyturtle [~thegreedy@user-0c93oto.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:11] Workin on it [07:11] takes awhile to install mysql on a 166 laptop === uhelp [root@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:16] haha [07:16] root [07:17] !tell lexxan about root === uhelp [lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:23] topic [help] [07:24] !topic help [07:24] no clue how to use this thing :P [07:25] hopefully its secure === uhelp [lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:29] chanstats [07:29] !chanstats [07:29] @chanstats [07:31] root is at sfasdfasgdsdg [07:31] where can i find root? [07:31] ;/ [07:33] add root blah [07:34] topic add root blah [07:34] ? [07:34] !info blah [07:34] I have no idea how to use this thing lol. [07:34] uhelp: test is testing [07:34] lexxan: okay [07:35] uhelp: testing? [07:35] lexxan: are you smoking crack? [07:35] uhelp: test? [07:35] test is, like, testing [07:35] lol. [07:35] uhelp: testing [07:35] bob2: i don't know [07:35] uhelp: test [07:35] somebody said test was testing [07:36] uhelp: fnord is This is a pointless factoid. [07:36] bob2: okay [07:36] !fnord [07:36] !fnord [07:36] !fnord [07:36] uhelp: fnord [07:36] somebody said fnord was This is a pointless factoid. [07:36] you set the trigger character to something else [07:38] If i can find that setting [07:38] heh [07:38] uhelp: uptime [07:41] topic fnord [07:41] !topic fnord [07:42] @fnord [07:42] the bot is not going to change the topic [07:43] uhelp: stats [07:43] Since Tue May 3 23:29:12 2005, there have been 2 modifications and 3 questions and 8 dunnos and 0 morons and 8 commands. I have been awake for 15m 19s this session, and currently reference 2 factoids. I'm using about 14872 kB of memory. [07:43] no shit [07:43] hmm [07:43] I can't find a trigger setting anywhere === uhelp [lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:46] uhelp: stats [07:46] Since Tue May 3 23:48:01 2005, there have been 0 modifications and 0 questions and 0 dunnos and 0 morons and 0 commands. I have been awake for 13s this session, and currently reference 2 factoids. I'm using about 14748 kB of memory. [07:47] Can you still access it bob2? [07:49] uhelp: fnord [07:49] fnord is, like, This is a pointless factoid. [07:49] hmm [07:49] tell lexxan about fnord [07:49] uhelp: tell lexxan about fnord [07:49] What's so great about this bot haha [07:49] ... [07:49] the fact it's not annoying [07:50] you tell it things [07:50] it repeats them [07:50] How is that any different [07:50] the only diff i see is it uses mysql [07:50] uhelp: you are ugly. [07:50] lexxan: I think you lost me on that one [07:51] !tell lexxan about fnord [07:51] =[ [07:52] I think i'd rather run infobot [07:52] blootbot is infobot [07:52] but actually maintained [07:54] It'd be nice if there was documentation [07:54] heh [07:55] !del fnord [07:56] I can't even dcc the bot [07:56] nor is the userfile even working [07:56] =[ [07:56] er [07:56] why on earth would you dcc it? [07:57] I don't know.. the crappy README says you can [07:59] but why would you want to? [07:59] who knows [07:59] I think you can do admin commands or something [08:00] so basically it works fine except the trigger? [08:01] why would you do admin commands in dcc? [08:01] You tell me. === _froud_ [~froud@ndn-165-143-125.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:03] <_froud_> African Greetings === _froud_ is now known as froud [08:04] I don't know why anyone would [08:05] hi froud [08:05] hi [08:05] Hmm I'd use this bot if the trigger would work [08:07] froud, not so much activity in svn lately? im about to do stuff now [08:07] yeah, everyone is talking but no work :-( [08:08] froud, don't worry let's just do what we're supposed to do ive been silent on the list as well lately but it does not mean anything :) [08:08] :-) some of us are working behind the scenes ;-) [08:10] who's pulling stuff now? [08:10] huh? [08:11] i mean do we have new people doing stuff? [08:11] no, just a few of us are hacking various parts [08:11] jeff-away is progressing with the styleguide [08:11] ah right [08:11] I am working on installation [08:12] and user guide [08:12] that leaves me with kubuntu stuff then [08:12] that's great [08:12] no I have my eye on kubuntu [08:12] ok [08:13] i was waiting for you to get ahead with kwickguide [08:13] then planned helping you [08:13] im starting to get some steam again now after going home [08:14] yeah takes some effort to get back to normal after UDU [08:14] now I wait to see what the outcomes for UDU are? [08:14] yeah i also have a couple of ToDo [08:15] well i was wondering about some of my ToDo [08:15] we're supposed to do a flyer of sorts for conferences [08:15] but i was thinking maybe themarketing people are better off with these things [08:15] I already have the beginnings of one [08:15] I just haven't committed it [08:15] depends on what the flyer is supposed to do [08:16] yeah burgy has some ideas [08:16] we also have 2 paper sizes and other stuff [08:16] done in inkscape so it is xml [08:16] ok let me pull out my activity page [08:17] thats great [08:17] i didnt know inkscape does xml [08:18] svg is xml [08:18] and OO can export svg to pdf [08:18] yes [08:18] http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences?highlight=%28JeromeGotangcoActivity%29%7C%28SpecAssignments%29%7C%28JeromeGotangcoQueue%29 [08:18] w3c [08:18] pardon my ignorance [08:18] OOo is also xml [08:19] OO drawing can also do SVG [08:19] ok i know that OOo is in xml [08:19] just unzip the sxw and you get xml [08:19] http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences [08:19] XML RULES THE WORLD [08:19] ok i know some of that stuff so don't shove it on my face :) === froud wonders if jsgotangco is touchy today [08:20] prod prod [08:20] i borked my laptop during UDU and still recovering my stuff thats why i havent committed at all [08:21] ouch [08:22] are there any MS Project viewers available in linux? [08:22] not yet [08:22] imendio project has it on the roadmap [08:22] ouch [08:22] project in the repos [08:22] planner === lexxan [~lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === jsgotangco wonders how he will open up the attachment [08:23] A: We're just getting started in this area. In the 0.13 version, a simple importer for the XML exchange format supported by MS Project 2002 and later. [08:24] .13 isn't packaged for anything yet === jsgotangco groans === lexxan [~lexxan@S01060007250d79e2.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:25] oh wait [08:25] Does anyone else here wanna run the infobot? [08:25] testing has it [08:25] so does unstable [08:25] so it just needs to sync [08:25] it may have already [08:25] confirmed, breezy has it [08:26] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/planner/ if you have a pbuilder chroot === jeff-away is now known as jeffsch [08:30] K well was fun helping out. bye [08:33] good evening [08:33] any ideas on dictionary we can use for style guide? [08:34] Wbsters? [08:35] something free would be nice [08:35] computerdictionary.tsf.org.za [08:35] Still needs work though [08:36] But Websters is online [08:36] FOLDOC [08:37] I was thinking maybe aspell [08:37] spellchecker [08:37] yes [08:37] hardly a dictionary [08:38] true. but it has the spelling of words, which is the biggest part of the dictionary we need for our purposes [08:38] and it can be customised [08:38] dict.org [08:39] that is free [08:39] braod database [08:39] and I can use Kdictionary [08:39] The connection was refuse while attempting to contact dict.org [08:39] :-) [08:39] http://www.dict.org [08:40] On KDE we have K Dictionary which queries dict.org servers [08:40] dunno about gnome? [08:40] but there must be someting like it [08:40] there is also Gnome Dictionary. it connects to many of the same dicts as dict.org [08:41] yeah they are just front ends [08:41] good for defs, but confusing for spelling [08:41] My take is that we use US spell [08:41] So long as definition and spelling can be found in a US dict I am happy [08:42] I know that sounds strange comming from a south african [08:42] I should be punting UK en [08:42] but really US spelling is better [08:42] :-) [08:42] Flame war [08:42] Yahooooooo [08:42] !!! [08:42] US spelling is usually more straight forward [08:43] Canadian spelling is a compromise between US and UK [08:43] Hey, no compromises [08:43] :-) [08:43] we should stick with US [08:43] Over at computerdictionary I am building a docbook glosaary database [08:44] Spell US [08:44] Here are my guidelines [08:44] http://computerdictionary.tsf.org.za/project/index.html#Dictionary+Guidelines [08:44] i go for us spelling [08:45] hooray for jsgotangco [08:45] Turabian? wut dat? [08:46] but i prefer the uk way of speaking hehe [08:46] now we just need the ozzies and the brits to agree [08:46] Chicago/Turabian style. [08:47] US spelling? [08:47] http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/cmosfaq.html [08:47] there is no such spelling [08:47] I know of Chicago, but never see Chicago/Turabian [08:47] mdke: yes, and yes there is [08:47] That is Turabian [08:47] a brit take him! === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === mdke [~mdke@mdke.user] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:47] you'll never take me alive === froud point RPG at mdke === mdke scurries off [08:48] froud, you know mark collet? [08:48] should I? [08:48] umm no just wondering [08:48] how about adi atta [08:48] adi yes [08:48] ahh right [08:48] mark collect from OOo [08:48] shes the one involved in xhosa right [08:48] yes [08:49] she gave us the xhosa xh [08:49] yes shes nice === froud knows [08:49] heh [08:49] mark is down in Durban === jsgotangco wonders if all women in za are like her [08:49] yes [08:50] :) big smile [08:50] but xh is a tribal language right? [08:50] yes [08:50] one of our 11 [08:51] how about afrikaans [08:51] like old dutch [08:51] or flemish [08:51] interesting === jsgotangco might pick up another language soon [08:51] very much an african language though [08:53] aha! Turabian is for citations [08:54] adi gave me a lot of stickers thats why i remember her [08:55] jeffsch: yes [08:55] cms is great [08:55] definitive [08:56] but I also like Newton [08:56] "Newtons telcom dictionary" [08:56] but it is not online [08:56] and cms only has index online [08:56] jsgotangco, do you want me to build planner in a pbuilder chroot and install it so that you can extract that project stuff? [08:56] you still must buy the book [08:57] register and the world opens [08:57] every writer should have a copy [08:57] Burgundavia, not familiar with what you are saying but if i get to open that project file without any hitch im grateful [08:57] ok [08:58] I will not be able to get to it tell tomorrow night though [08:58] I like Simon and Schuster Handboolk for Writers [08:58] Burgundavia, no worries [08:58] not widely used, but also good [08:58] ok === froud [~froud@ndn-165-143-125.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [09:03] night all === jeffsch is now known as jeff-away [09:13] Morning [09:22] morning to you Kinnison === jsgotangco [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mvirkkil [~mvirkkil@vipunen.hut.fi] has joined #ubuntu-doc === solomarv [~rouslan@cpe-66-65-253-163.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.94.83.179] has joined #ubuntu-doc === abelli [~john@52560e480e6fe67f.node.tor] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:15] bye bye === solomarv [~rouslan@cpe-66-65-253-163.nycap.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === jjesse [~jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === maskie [~maskie@196-30-108-109.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:27] sup y'all [07:31] hello mdke [07:32] hi jjesse === jiyuu0 [~jiyuu0@219.94.83.179] has joined #ubuntu-doc === abelli [~john@90c34e3ae91c4dfc.node.tor] has joined #ubuntu-doc === maskie [~maskie@196-30-109-123.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-doc