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| jbailey | Bah! Why does devmapper include a debian/patches directory, and then not do anything with it? | 01:27 |
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| dilinger | jbailey: 'cause sometimes there are patches, some times there aren't? :) | 01:42 |
| dilinger | grr, i just stepped in pepsi | 01:43 |
| jbailey | dilinger: Looks like waldi ditched using the patches directory and then didn't get rid of it or the patches in it. | 01:44 |
| jbailey | (He stopped using cdbs completely) | 01:44 |
| dilinger | yea | 01:44 |
| dilinger | i'm not suprised | 01:44 |
| dilinger | he ranks up there as my least favorite maintainer | 01:44 |
| dilinger | and i get to comaintain w/ him (yay!) | 01:45 |
| jbailey | Wow. | 01:47 |
| jbailey | BEast out md? | 01:47 |
| jbailey | Beats, even... | 01:47 |
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| jbailey | fabbione: devmapper uploaded, it might solve the lvm2 stuff automatically. | 01:57 |
| dilinger | jbailey: yep | 01:57 |
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| zul | doh...fabbione: i added hostap support this afternoon compiles cleanly | 02:42 |
| z3k3 | hey zul | 04:15 |
| zul | hey | 04:18 |
| z3k3 | how goes | 04:18 |
| z3k3 | the battle? | 04:18 |
| zul | good... a little bit of a mily emergenyc guine pig is bleeding | 04:19 |
| z3k3 | oh!? i think vets are open 24/7. | 04:20 |
| z3k3 | if its major that is. | 04:20 |
| zul | its not at that level yet | 04:26 |
| z3k3 | well, hope its alright. :) let me know when the emergency is over, and maybe we can go over a few dpkg things, if you have time that is. | 04:27 |
| zul | it might not be tonight | 04:27 |
| zul | but man pages are useful | 04:28 |
| z3k3 | no problem. another day. | 04:28 |
| z3k3 | yes, I have been RTFM'n | 04:28 |
| z3k3 | :) | 04:28 |
| fabbione | morning | 05:12 |
| zul | hey changelog bitch | 05:12 |
| fabbione | bah fuck! | 05:13 |
| fabbione | one of my disks run out of space and all the sparc buildd went bana | 05:13 |
| fabbione | banana | 05:13 |
| zul | you need a bigger hard drive | 05:13 |
| fabbione | no! really? | 05:14 |
| zul | yes...really.. | 05:14 |
| zul | moto = masters of the obvious | 05:15 |
| fabbione | so did you add any new crack to the kernel? | 05:16 |
| zul | hostap | 05:16 |
| fabbione | zul: ok.. but please stop here | 05:16 |
| fabbione | we need to release :) | 05:16 |
| zul | ok | 05:16 |
| fabbione | baz update | 05:16 |
| fabbione | Failed to connect to archive zulcss@gmail.com--2005/kernel-debian--pre1--2.6.11.91 | 05:16 |
| zul | gah..? | 05:17 |
| zul | can you go to http://zulinux.homelinux.net? | 05:17 |
| zul | gah.. | 05:18 |
| fabbione | PING zulinux.homelinux.net (24.42.249.194) 56(84) bytes of data. | 05:18 |
| fabbione | ? | 05:18 |
| fabbione | is this your ip? | 05:18 |
| zul | yeah it is gimme a sec...make sure it hasnt changed | 05:18 |
| zul | friggin linksys | 05:19 |
| z3k3 | lol | 05:21 |
| z3k3 | dont blame the linksys | 05:21 |
| zul | actually i blame the windows box | 05:22 |
| z3k3 | I agree | 05:22 |
| zul | fabbione: try now | 05:22 |
| z3k3 | zul: did you remove that nfg 6410 patch from your baz? | 05:23 |
| z3k3 | just making sure so it doesn't clutter fabbione's update | 05:23 |
| fabbione | i didn't merge your patch yet | 05:23 |
| fabbione | z3k3: and baz takes care of merging | 05:23 |
| z3k3 | fabbione: will you merge it into release? | 05:24 |
| z3k3 | at some point i mena | 05:24 |
| z3k3 | mean | 05:24 |
| fabbione | z3k3: i want to understand what the patch does first | 05:25 |
| fabbione | i don't like merging random bits | 05:25 |
| z3k3 | fabbione: I understand. I found it at http://robertk.com/source if that helps | 05:26 |
| fabbione | what i want to know is if the patch has been pushed upstream | 05:27 |
| zul | i doubt it | 05:27 |
| z3k3 | from what I have read. no it hasnt | 05:27 |
| z3k3 | but I'm not sure where to check. officially. | 05:27 |
| fabbione | hey lamont | 05:28 |
| zul | hey lamont | 05:28 |
| z3k3 | ditto | 05:28 |
| lamont | I guess 30 minutes after getting home from the fire meeting and call is a good time to remove the -away, eh? | 05:28 |
| zul | slacker :) | 05:29 |
| zul | T-Bone hasnt been around much | 05:30 |
| zul | hes a slacker as well | 05:30 |
| zul | so what do you need from me to get the release out? | 05:31 |
| zul | before i go to bed | 05:32 |
| fabbione | zul: to stop adding stuff and start to test all of them? | 05:32 |
| zul | sure.. | 05:32 |
| fabbione | zul: hmmmmm | 05:32 |
| fabbione | have a good night sleep dude | 05:32 |
| zul | c ya later | 05:32 |
| fabbione | cya | 05:33 |
| z3k3 | fabbione: after you merge zul's baz archive let me know, I'll build a new kernel and test. | 05:35 |
| fabbione | z3k3: i have done it already | 05:35 |
| fabbione | i still need to check the via patch | 05:36 |
| z3k3 | ok. I'm just adding the via patch manually, but will build again tonight. | 05:36 |
| z3k3 | the other patch we tried edited the via82cxxx instead of the generic. I thought that was better.. but it didnt work. | 05:38 |
| z3k3 | just fyi. | 05:38 |
| Mithrandir | hi fabio | 05:38 |
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| fabbione | hey Mith | 05:41 |
| fabbione | jetlagged? | 05:41 |
| Mithrandir | a bit | 05:41 |
| fabbione | so am i | 05:42 |
| fabbione | hmm interesting build-loop | 05:56 |
| fabbione | happy builddep ghc6, haddock builddep happy, ghc6 builddep haddock | 05:57 |
| dilinger | Mithrandir: when did you get back? | 06:10 |
| fabbione | hey dilinger | 06:12 |
| dilinger | heya | 06:12 |
| dilinger | how's it going? | 06:12 |
| Mithrandir | dilinger: monday 1200 CEST. | 06:18 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: I sent you a privmsg last night. | 06:18 |
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| lamont | fabbione: yeah - you have to bootstrap ghc65 | 06:31 |
| fabbione | lamont: yup.. doing it now | 06:31 |
| fabbione | ghc5 isn't bootstrappable afaik | 06:32 |
| fabbione | it build-dep on ghc4 that is not even available in debian | 06:32 |
| fabbione | (for sparc) | 06:32 |
| lamont | and it's old :-) | 06:32 |
| fabbione | as well | 06:32 |
| lamont | and what ever you do, don't bootstrap gcc< 3.3 | 06:32 |
| fabbione | it's pointless to bootstrap gcc < 3.3 | 06:33 |
| fabbione | even if i would really really need gcc-2.95 for silo | 06:33 |
| fabbione | /bin/sh: line 1: 32067 Illegal instruction ../utils/genprimopcode/genprimopcode --data-decl <prelude/primops.txt >primop-data-decl.hs-incl | 06:48 |
| fabbione | i guess ghc6 isn't gcc-4 friendly | 06:48 |
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| fabbione | AHHHHHH | 10:36 |
| fabbione | there it is why the via patch doesn't work! | 10:36 |
| fabbione | there is a typo in the patch | 10:36 |
| fabbione | z3k3__: are you around? | 10:39 |
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| zul | hey | 02:54 |
| fabbione | yo | 03:00 |
| zul | how goes it? | 03:01 |
| fabbione | i am not feeling to well, but it is going | 03:01 |
| fabbione | i figured why your via patch didn't work | 03:02 |
| zul | mine? | 03:02 |
| zul | did you get the new patch from z3k3? | 03:02 |
| fabbione | zul: there was a patch you added | 03:03 |
| zul | ah | 03:03 |
| fabbione | and there was a typo | 03:03 |
| fabbione | that's why it didn't work | 03:03 |
| zul | what was the typo | 03:03 |
| fabbione | 0X3149 -> 0x3149 | 03:03 |
| zul | ah ok | 03:03 |
| fabbione | or something like that | 03:03 |
| fabbione | the one you added is more via specific | 03:03 |
| fabbione | the one from z3k3__ adds the same code in ide generic | 03:03 |
| zul | heh | 03:04 |
| fabbione | lamont: you around already? | 03:05 |
| zul | *sigh* bloody nt servers | 03:09 |
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| zul | has anyone tested himem on 386 yet? | 04:03 |
| zul | er...highmem even | 04:04 |
| lamont | fabbione: am now | 04:22 |
| zul | anyone have any pictures up on udu? | 04:46 |
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| fabbione | zul: nope.. it needs testing | 05:06 |
| zul | ill do it when i get home tonight | 05:07 |
| fabbione | lamont: can you please build from the latest baz, update the configs and send me the full buildlog? | 05:07 |
| fabbione | no wonder the via patch doesn't work at all | 05:10 |
| fabbione | it's not even applied | 05:10 |
| fabbione | bah today i am really really really pissed off | 05:10 |
| zul | ack | 05:12 |
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| zul | heh hey T-None | 05:13 |
| T-None | lamont: still waiting for your log/pass btw ;) | 05:13 |
| T-None | hey zul | 05:13 |
| zul | hehe http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20050501 | 05:16 |
| fabbione | zul: in what date did you update inotify? | 05:17 |
| zul | the inotify 0.23 or 0.22? | 05:18 |
| fabbione | 0.23 | 05:18 |
| zul | yesterday | 05:18 |
| zul | lemme double check though | 05:18 |
| fabbione | yeah it was yesterday | 05:20 |
| zul | yesterday 11:27 EST | 05:20 |
| zul | patch-19 in my baz archive | 05:20 |
| fabbione | ok i suggest you to wait an hour or so | 05:21 |
| fabbione | i am in real bitching mode right now and committing all small fixes everywhere | 05:21 |
| fabbione | this week is shit | 05:21 |
| zul | umm..sure.. | 05:21 |
| zul | sick? | 05:21 |
| fabbione | also.. that's one of the point | 05:22 |
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| T-None | (french one, preferrably) | 05:24 |
| Mithrandir | nah, italian. Or South African. | 05:25 |
| zul | you should try ontario ice wine | 05:26 |
| T-None | Mithrandir: i assume you want him dead by midnight, then? 8) | 05:26 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: bah really.. i need to move out of this fucking retarted country | 05:27 |
| fabbione | and convince my wife to do so | 05:28 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: what does Ulla think about that? | 05:28 |
| T-None | i wonder what country isn't retarded, according to fabbione :} | 05:29 |
| zul | canada? :) | 05:30 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: she is not happy but hounestly i am really really fedup about a series of events | 05:32 |
| fabbione | that are really pushing me away from here | 05:33 |
| T-None | fabbione: the borg has you, you'll be assimilated. The EU rules it all :P | 05:33 |
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| fabbione | T-None: die | 05:35 |
| T-None | no way | 05:35 |
| fabbione | drivers-cdrom-cm206_sli-cli-cleanup.dpatch | 05:38 |
| fabbione | zul did you add this patch? | 05:38 |
| zul | yeah i didnt remove it | 05:39 |
| fabbione | does it need to stay or should be killed? | 05:39 |
| zul | from my archive i was experimenting with something | 05:39 |
| fabbione | ok | 05:39 |
| zul | bbl...lunch | 05:39 |
| zul | kill it | 05:40 |
| fabbione | baz commit -s'Super general cleanup' | 05:40 |
| fabbione | zul: ok.. i think i have done a bunch of stuff | 05:57 |
| fabbione | you can merge now | 05:57 |
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| zul | cool...you should get better though get some rest | 07:19 |
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| fabbione | i need to wait my wife phone call | 07:21 |
| fabbione | so that i can go and pick her up at the hospital | 07:21 |
| zul | ah | 07:26 |
| zul | sucky | 07:27 |
| fabbione | humpf... 12rc3 is totally broken on sparc | 07:28 |
| fabbione | zul: it sucks because my wife can't use her brain | 07:28 |
| zul | that is just women in general...er...no..women around here ? | 07:29 |
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| jbailey | Mithrandir: *poke* | 07:43 |
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| Mithrandir | jbailey: moo | 07:49 |
| jbailey | Mithrandir: Did you wind up getting my message about amd64-libs-dev last night? I got a note saying it couldn't be delivered within 4 hours. | 07:50 |
| Mithrandir | jbailey: no, didn't see that | 07:56 |
| jbailey | Ah, okay. The basic thing is looking at amd64-libs and wondering if the includes files in there can do multilibish things. | 07:58 |
| jbailey | Right now it diverts header files and puts wrappers on them. | 07:58 |
| jbailey | All sorts of nastiness in there. | 07:58 |
| Mithrandir | NFI; I don't know anything about amd64-libs. :) | 07:58 |
| jbailey | It's essentially the same as i386-libs. | 07:59 |
| jbailey | Didn't you do that one? | 07:59 |
| Mithrandir | ia32-libs, yes. | 07:59 |
| jbailey | (I think it's based off the same code, but I might have misunderstood) | 07:59 |
| Mithrandir | it is, but ia32-libs doesn't wrap headers and similar evilness | 07:59 |
| jbailey | Oh, hmm. | 07:59 |
| jbailey | How do you handle include file conflicts there? | 08:00 |
| Mithrandir | I'm in a meeting, can I talk to you a bit later? | 08:00 |
| jbailey | No worries, I'll be around for a while. | 08:01 |
| Mithrandir | back | 08:06 |
| Mithrandir | (it was just the end of the meeting) | 08:06 |
| jbailey | No worries. =) | 08:06 |
| jbailey | I'm not running out of things to do either way. | 08:06 |
| Mithrandir | it just doesn't ship them; ia32-libs-dev is there just to make it possible to build cross-compilers | 08:07 |
| jbailey | Ah. | 08:08 |
| jbailey | amd64-libs seems to exist to make it possible to run and build amd64 apps when you have on i386 system installed on a real amd64. | 08:08 |
| Mithrandir | yeah | 08:09 |
| Mithrandir | I think that's complete and utter crack. | 08:09 |
| jbailey | It's in main, so someone has a use for it. | 08:10 |
| Mithrandir | yes, gcc to build a cross compiler. :) | 08:10 |
| jbailey | Ah. | 08:10 |
| jbailey | Joy. | 08:10 |
| jbailey | Yeah, nothing else acc. to apt-cache rdepends. | 08:10 |
| jbailey | So I may as well just work with doko to find a sane solution for this. | 08:11 |
| Mithrandir | go ahead, but please talk to drow too, since he's the maintainer in Debian | 08:12 |
| jbailey | My thought is basically to stuff the new include files in /usr/x86_64-linux/include and get gcc -m64 to look there instead of in i486-linux. | 08:12 |
| jbailey | drow said he doesn't care. | 08:12 |
| jbailey | He wants to package to go away and welcoms any solutions that improve it. | 08:12 |
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| jbailey | Right. =) | 08:13 |
| jbailey | This is a half solution - at least it would be putting all the stuff in the place they'd be if there were multiarch then | 08:13 |
| Mithrandir | not really; they'll go to /usr/include/$arch, but stuffing it in the crosscompile directory for now is fine | 08:14 |
| jbailey | I was looking at this: http://raw.no/debian/amd64-multiarch-2 | 08:15 |
| jbailey | I thought you recommended /usr/x86_64-linux/include in there... | 08:15 |
| Mithrandir | look at -3 | 08:16 |
| jbailey | Bah | 08:16 |
| jbailey | This is what google gave me. =) | 08:16 |
| Mithrandir | heh :) | 08:17 |
| Mithrandir | can't _always_ trust google | 08:17 |
| jbailey | But... | 08:17 |
| jbailey | But... | 08:17 |
| jbailey | Googles 0wns my brain. | 08:17 |
| Mithrandir | heh | 08:17 |
| jbailey | Hmm. | 08:18 |
| jbailey | Doko claims that the multiarch stuff is in gcc-4 | 08:18 |
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| Mithrandir | it is, but not the current version, I believe? | 08:19 |
| Mithrandir | doko: have you pulled the patches off my arch mirror or are they based on Snow-Man's patches? | 08:19 |
| jbailey | Not that I see, but I assumed I was confused. | 08:19 |
| jbailey | doko: Just chatting about the amd64-libs, and the fact that dpkg-diverting existing include files sucks. | 08:20 |
| doko | Mithrandir: that's the patch you sent me ages ago ... | 08:20 |
| jbailey | doko: Do you expect "gcc -m64" to look at multiarch directories now? | 08:21 |
| doko | no, the patch is not enabled, and untested. | 08:21 |
| Mithrandir | doko: if you could look at the mulitarch patches from http://arch.err.no/index.cgi/tfheen@idi.ntnu.no--2005, that'd be nice. | 08:22 |
| jbailey | I'm not sure where to go with this. amd64-libs looks like it's only needed for building a cheap biarch compiler on i386. | 08:23 |
| jbailey | I can fix linux-kernel-headers so that it makes all the headers properly biarch like it does with ppc{64} and sparc{64} | 08:23 |
| jbailey | Then I have to do extra hackery in amd64-libs to make sure that it removes all the diversions. | 08:24 |
| doko | jbailey: the compiler is used to build a 64bit kernel on i386 | 08:24 |
| jbailey | But if I could just move all the headers to the right place for multiarch and do away with the diversions permanently, I'd be quite happy. | 08:24 |
| jbailey | I say this mostly because if someone tries to install this package now, it does a whole bunch of diverts, then fails to install and doesn't undo the diverts. | 08:25 |
| jbailey | I'd hate to thing of how many systems will have that suckage now. | 08:25 |
| jbailey | s/thing/think/ | 08:25 |
| doko | hmm, who of you can/wants to test the multiarch setup? I definitely do not have the time, preparing the C++ transition. | 08:27 |
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| jbailey | I don't have reasonable access to an amd64 system (Where reasonable access is the ability to install whatever gcc doko wants) | 08:28 |
| Mithrandir | I can do it reasonably easy. | 08:29 |
| doko | how much work is it to prepare the headers as they exist for sparc{64} ? | 08:31 |
| jbailey | For linux-kernel-headers? Almost none, a couple lines in a config file I think. | 08:31 |
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| jbailey | The kernel sees them as two separate archs, and I just feed the names to a script. | 08:31 |
| jbailey | That'll at least get everything installable again. | 08:32 |
| doko | when do you think, you'll have something working (something = installs, let's GCC bootstrap biarch) | 08:33 |
| jbailey | Mmm.. 60-90 minutes? Should be quicker, but I have a habit of underestimating. | 08:35 |
| doko | heh, then I'll wait with an upload ;) | 08:38 |
| doko | jbailey: btw, gcc-3.3.6 fails to bootstrap ada in breezy, works in hoary ... | 08:40 |
| jbailey | doko: Do you have the error handy? | 08:40 |
| doko | jbailey: no, not anymore, but it fails early. | 08:42 |
| jbailey | Interesting. lkh already has this for x86_64 | 08:43 |
| jbailey | But not for i386 | 08:43 |
| jbailey | gcc -m64 -E -dD - </dev/null | grep 64 | 08:48 |
| jbailey | cc1: sorry, unimplemented: 64-bit mode not compiled in | 08:48 |
| jbailey | Ah, gcc-3.4 has it. | 08:49 |
| doko | you're on hoary? | 08:51 |
| jbailey | I'm in the hoary chroot on concordia. | 08:51 |
| jbailey | I don't have an amd64 box. | 08:52 |
| jbailey | I was pretty certain hoary-i386 would be properly biarch setup there. | 08:52 |
| doko | not gcc-3.3, gcc-3.4 only | 08:56 |
| jbailey | Stretch break while this builds, bbias | 08:58 |
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| jbailey | lkh uploading | 09:04 |
| jbailey | Building and uploading a second time source only. | 09:19 |
| jbailey | *sigh* | 09:19 |
| dilinger | jbailey: you should examine some cdbs goodness | 09:29 |
| dilinger | i'd like comments and stuff | 09:30 |
| jbailey | dilinger: Cool. Mind if it's tomorrow? | 09:32 |
| dilinger | sure | 09:32 |
| dilinger | i didn't mean now | 09:32 |
| dilinger | i meant, like.. before i start hacking on it again :) | 09:32 |
| jbailey | *lol* | 09:32 |
| dilinger | we *must* get everyone using cdbs/simple-patchsys | 09:38 |
| dilinger | stuff like maildrop and openafs is killing me | 09:38 |
| dilinger | random crap scattered all over the diff.gz.. no explanation what it's there for.. | 09:38 |
| jbailey | dilinger: Did youread the wig and penn proposal? | 09:42 |
| jbailey | I'd be content with that, too. | 09:43 |
| dilinger | the what? | 09:44 |
| jbailey | http://www.dpkg.org/NewSourceFormat | 09:45 |
| kylem | bah. is dpkg.org ipv6 screwed up again/ | 09:49 |
| jbailey | Bah. | 09:56 |
| === jbailey wipes amd64-libs and fetches the package again. | ||
| jbailey | Apparently I had eaten it in a fairly serious way. | 09:56 |
| zul | bah...oclug mailing list | 09:58 |
| kylem | zul, why do you read that shite? | 10:02 |
| zul | because im bored at work | 10:05 |
| kylem | heh. | 10:05 |
| zul | and lessons on how not to shoot myself in the foot | 10:05 |
| zul | for the curious http://oclug.on.ca/archives/oclug/2005-May/045385.html | 10:07 |
| jbailey | Ah. Gotta love the lugs. =) | 10:13 |
| zul | there is a bunch of crackpots in ottawa | 10:14 |
| jbailey | Hmm. | 10:14 |
| jbailey | The lkh upload should've had a conflicts against the older amd64-libs package. | 10:14 |
| zul | including me, kylem and willy :) | 10:14 |
| kylem | the linux@ list is supposed to be saner, but we've not managed to get anyone using it. | 10:14 |
| kylem | heh, i'm on the /board/ of this crazy crackfest. | 10:14 |
| kylem | zul, did you come out last night? | 10:14 |
| zul | kylem: nope i was still kind of sick from monday | 10:15 |
| kylem | zul, fairy nuff, i skipped out right after the meeting, so i was going to apologize for not looking for you 8) | 10:15 |
| zul | meh...:) | 10:15 |
| zul | no big deal | 10:15 |
| jbailey | doko: There? | 10:17 |
| zul | later | 10:23 |
| jbailey | doko: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/amd64-libs-dev_1.1ubuntu1_i386.deb | 10:45 |
| jbailey | doko: http://people.ubuntu.com/~jbailey/amd64-libs_1.1ubuntu1_i386.deb | 10:45 |
| jbailey | doko: Untested beyond the fact that it installs. | 10:46 |
| jbailey | doko: Between this and the new lkh, though, you ought to have pieces that actually all install. | 10:46 |
| === jbailey runs off for lunch. | ||
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| fabbione | hey keep your multicrap crack out of here :) | 11:30 |
| fabbione | anyway dinner time | 11:31 |
| fabbione | i might pass by tomorrow | 11:32 |
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