| jabra | anyone able to review a package | 12:06 |
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| jabra | that has some time now? | 12:06 |
| tseng | put it on MOTUTodo please | 12:06 |
| jabra | well it is on https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MOTUToReview | 12:10 |
| tseng | yes | 12:10 |
| tseng | great. | 12:10 |
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| jabra | tseng: could you review it? my package is radmind | 12:16 |
| tseng | is there a reason you put yours ahead of everyone elses | 12:17 |
| jabra | no I figured that it should be added to the top of the list ? | 12:18 |
| tseng | they are ordered by date | 12:18 |
| jabra | or should it be the bottom? | 12:18 |
| jabra | o ok then let me fix it then | 12:18 |
| tseng | first thing to fix, you dont need to patch the makefile to install a manpage | 12:19 |
| tseng | you can use debian/manpages from debhelper | 12:20 |
| tseng | if you do want to patch files in the future, use dpatch, changes in diff.gz should only be for debian/ | 12:20 |
| jabra | ok | 12:20 |
| tseng | likewise the manpage should be in debian/ | 12:21 |
| tseng | until its merged upstream | 12:21 |
| tseng | you should definately not have stuff in there for config.sub | 12:22 |
| tseng | and all that autotools crud | 12:23 |
| tseng | 80% of your diff.gz is extraneous crap, did you not make clean at some point? | 12:25 |
| tseng | anyway make the fixes I said, and cp debian/ into a clean source tree | 12:25 |
| tseng | and rebuild the package | 12:25 |
| jabra | ok | 12:25 |
| tseng | off to walk the dog. | 12:25 |
| jabra | I def didn't cp the debian/ | 12:25 |
| tseng | no | 12:25 |
| tseng | thats what you have to do to remove this crap | 12:26 |
| jabra | o ok that is easy enough | 12:26 |
| tseng | unpack the tarball fresh and cp debian | 12:26 |
| tseng | to get a clean diff | 12:26 |
| jabra | o ok cool so start from scratch with my tweaks in debian/ | 12:26 |
| jabra | that will fix all the problems? | 12:26 |
| tseng | yes | 12:26 |
| tseng | well, this problem | 12:27 |
| jabra | cool so are you going to be around later | 12:27 |
| tseng | your build-depends looks awfully short, no idea if its acurate | 12:27 |
| tseng | maybe. | 12:27 |
| jabra | ok I will ping you | 12:27 |
| tseng | ping the channel. | 12:27 |
| jabra | should be done after I get home | 12:27 |
| jabra | k | 12:28 |
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| jabra | tseng: ok I repackaged it and add the manpage properly | 01:44 |
| jabra | let me know what else if anything I need to fix | 01:45 |
| tseng | you need 2 other people to look at it | 01:45 |
| jabra | 2 other people? don't I need 3 for new packages and 1 for already build packages | 02:12 |
| tseng | jabra: yes? 1 + 2 = 3 | 02:25 |
| jabra | maybe I misunderstood | 02:27 |
| jabra | but it looks acceptable to you? | 02:28 |
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| tseng | I gave you my comments, go to your next person | 03:14 |
| tseng | im so tired | 03:14 |
| jabra | thanks | 03:15 |
| ajmitch_ | gah, already bugs in malone asking for mono apps to be built for amd64 now | 03:20 |
| tseng | um | 03:20 |
| tseng | annoying | 03:21 |
| jabra | anyone know how good the support for the alpha is for ubuntu | 03:22 |
| mjr | jabra, umm, nonexistant? | 03:22 |
| tseng | there is none | 03:22 |
| jabra | thought there was but it was unofficial | 03:23 |
| tseng | if you can confuse alpha with sparc or ia64 | 03:23 |
| jabra | no | 03:23 |
| tseng | yes | 03:23 |
| jabra | maybe | 03:23 |
| jabra | no I had definatly had read that alpha was unoffically supported | 03:24 |
| jabra | wait it was sparc | 03:24 |
| tseng | sigh. | 03:25 |
| jabra | nm | 03:25 |
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| GheRivero | res | 10:17 |
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| p0m | Helllo netsplit. | 10:25 |
| Treenaks_ | p0m: freenode is worse than darker sometimes ;) | 10:30 |
| p0m | Treenaks_: To be honest, I'd say darker's stabler ;) | 10:30 |
| Nafallo | morning all | 10:31 |
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| GheRivero | res | 11:14 |
| \sh | morning guys | 12:26 |
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| emmanuel | Hi. | 03:49 |
| emmanuel | How do we report a bug against an universe package ? | 03:50 |
| \sh | malone | 03:51 |
| tritium_ | emmanuel, https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone | 03:51 |
| emmanuel | Ok. Thanks. | 03:51 |
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| tritium_ | Hi tseng|work | 03:59 |
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| tseng|work | hi tritium, ogra | 04:02 |
| ogra | hey tseng|work | 04:02 |
| tritium_ | hi ogra | 04:02 |
| Mithrandir | hi tseng, ogra, tritium_ | 04:04 |
| tritium_ | Hello, Mithrandir :) | 04:04 |
| tseng|work | hi :D | 04:04 |
| tseng|work | how is your firefox | 04:04 |
| Mithrandir | he's fine. Got a keyring and all | 04:05 |
| Mithrandir | and he's Karianne's, not mine, really | 04:05 |
| tseng|work | of course | 04:06 |
| ogra | hmm, no libgtk-cil on amd64 yet.... | 04:07 |
| tseng|work | libgtk-cil was reject | 04:08 |
| tseng|work | libgtk2-cil ftbfs for now | 04:08 |
| tseng|work | needs libgda transition | 04:08 |
| tseng|work | i went in the keyring this morning, so ill try and get the rejected stuff fixed | 04:09 |
| tseng|work | it got wonky when aj tried to resign it | 04:09 |
| tseng|work | ogra: most of the stuff is arch all or any, just needs a quick repack | 04:09 |
| tseng|work | what happens when you try to install it? | 04:10 |
| ogra | yeah, that what i thought | 04:10 |
| tseng|work | it used to fail on no mono-jit or mono-mint available | 04:10 |
| tseng|work | what happens now? | 04:10 |
| ogra | E: Package libgtk-cil has no installation candidate | 04:10 |
| tseng|work | huh | 04:10 |
| ogra | Package libgtk-cil is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 04:11 |
| tseng|work | ok, we'll see what happens on the next build, since mono is installable on the buildd now | 04:11 |
| tseng|work | can you install.. libgecko2-cil ? | 04:12 |
| ogra | E: Couldn't find package libgecko2-cil | 04:12 |
| ogra | not yet.... | 04:12 |
| ogra | but there is already a lot of mono stuff in the archive | 04:13 |
| tseng|work | yes | 04:13 |
| tseng|work | bwar gecko has the libgda problem also | 04:13 |
| ogra | so i'll wait in patience .... or help testing where i can | 04:13 |
| tseng|work | thanks dude | 04:13 |
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| thully | hi - is this where I request packages for breezy's universe/multiverse? | 04:46 |
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| zul | hey ogra | 05:10 |
| ogra | hi zul | 05:10 |
| thully | hi - where do I request additions to universe/multiverse? I'm interested in some extra gstreamer plugins/some apps compiled with AAC support | 05:12 |
| ogra | thully, UniverseCandidates on the wiki for now | 05:12 |
| thully | OK - I'm unable to package them (in fact I'm running Hoary now for stability purposes) but I'd like to see them in the next release if possible | 05:13 |
| thully | also - is that for multiverse as well? | 05:13 |
| ogra | depends on the license, i'm not sure about AAC | 05:13 |
| ogra | yep | 05:13 |
| thully | I think AAC must be OK, since faad and faac are already in multiverse | 05:14 |
| thully | Just not the gstreamer plugins - same with lame | 05:14 |
| ogra | ah, ok....just put it on the wikipage | 05:15 |
| thully | I guess the gstreamer stuff is already up there (I think I requested it a long time ago, and it somehow made it up there) - I'll just add gtkpod-aac up there | 05:16 |
| thully | Also, do you think pymusique is reasonable for multiverse, or is there too many problems with that (issues with the iTunes EULA mostly) | 05:17 |
| ogra | hmm, no idea... | 05:18 |
| ogra | ...probably something to ask a lawyer about | 05:18 |
| thully | OK - never mind with that one | 05:18 |
| thully | maybe I'll put it up there and note any possible issues with packaging it | 05:25 |
| tritium_ | thully, you'll have to sing the Ohio State fight song before we package it ;) | 05:26 |
| tritium_ | nah, just kidding :) | 05:27 |
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| abelli | ciao | 06:13 |
| abelli | ogra: ding | 06:13 |
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| ivoks | hi | 06:16 |
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| GheRivero | res | 06:31 |
| ivoks | i have three packages for universe if that's ok? | 06:35 |
| ivoks | quodlibet, quodlibet-ext and python-flac | 06:35 |
| ivoks | quodlibet is music player, something like rhythmbox | 06:36 |
| ivoks | http://master.grad.hr/~ivoks/ubuntu is URL if anyone interested | 06:42 |
| ogra | ivoks, put it on the wiki please... on the "to review" page | 06:43 |
| ivoks | ok | 06:44 |
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| ivoks | ok, bye guys... | 06:56 |
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| Mithrandir | tseng: hm, how's beagle coming along? | 07:18 |
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| bddebian | Hello | 07:25 |
| tritium_ | hi bddebian | 07:27 |
| bddebian | Howdy tritium_! How are you today? | 07:27 |
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| tritium_ | Pretty good, thanks. How about you, bddebian ? | 07:28 |
| abelli | ciao | 07:28 |
| abelli | ogra: re-ding, im sorry. | 07:28 |
| bddebian | tritium_: Not too bad, thanks | 07:28 |
| tritium_ | Good. | 07:29 |
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| jon1012 | helllo | 07:35 |
| jon1012 | I'm an applicatio developper, and would like to find someone kind enough to package my app for ubuntu :) | 07:35 |
| jon1012 | I'm the Appliworks (http://appliworks.jondesign.net) maintainer | 07:35 |
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| bddebian | Hello jon1012 | 07:37 |
| jon1012 | hi bddebian | 07:37 |
| jon1012 | bddebian: do you know someone who can be interested in doing it ? | 07:38 |
| hunger | Is there any best practice on when to use which log_* in the start/stop scripts? | 07:39 |
| bddebian | jon1012: I would say I would eventually but I am not an MOTU "yet" and I'm bogged at my "real" job right now.. :-( | 07:39 |
| jon1012 | bddebian: maybe you can do package some day and ask someone to include them in universe ? | 07:40 |
| jon1012 | bddebian: it's not urgent at all | 07:40 |
| jon1012 | bddebian: it's just that a lot of users have ubuntu... and having them recompile it is really a pain :( | 07:40 |
| === hunger is not a MOTU either, but wonders what that app actually does. | ||
| jon1012 | hunger: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=836 | 07:41 |
| hunger | Oh... its gnome:-( | 07:42 |
| jon1012 | yeah gnome | 07:42 |
| === hunger does not have gtk. | ||
| jon1012 | everything with gnome-vfs (net transparent), and DND, and bonobo lol... | 07:42 |
| ogra | jon1012, put it on the UniverseCandidates wikipage | 07:43 |
| ogra | abelli, dong ? | 07:43 |
| abelli | ogra: bonne jour mon ami. | 07:43 |
| bddebian | ogra: hehe | 07:43 |
| abelli | ogra: how is life? how was udu? | 07:43 |
| jon1012 | ogra: tu es francais ? | 07:43 |
| ogra | jon1012, non | 07:43 |
| hunger | How can I find out who maintains a deb in universe? | 07:43 |
| jon1012 | abelli: you have to say "bonjour mon ami" ;) | 07:43 |
| ogra | jon1012, je suis allemand | 07:43 |
| jon1012 | ogra: oh ok | 07:44 |
| jon1012 | ogra: what are the universecandidates wiki pages ? | 07:44 |
| abelli | jon1012: ou la la. | 07:44 |
| jon1012 | ogra: I don't use ubuntu anymore | 07:44 |
| abelli | ogra: have you received those bothering emails by me? | 07:44 |
| ogra | abelli, udu was heavy work .... mataro was a boy scout camp in comparison | 07:44 |
| abelli | jon1012: bad .. | 07:44 |
| abelli | ogra: grrr :) | 07:44 |
| jon1012 | abelli: I'm a member of the foresight linux team ;) | 07:45 |
| ogra | jon1012, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/UniverseCandidates | 07:45 |
| abelli | ogra: cmon dude, mataro was special .. i was there. | 07:45 |
| jon1012 | abelli: but a lot of users have ubuntu, so I ask for an ubuntu package for appliworks lol | 07:45 |
| jon1012 | ogra: thanks :) | 07:45 |
| ogra | abelli, but not as much work at all.... | 07:45 |
| Nafallo | ogra: and the picture with you and mvo in the pool? ;-) | 07:46 |
| abelli | ok ill be back in 15 minutes .. | 07:46 |
| abelli | ogra: did you check ubm, ubuntu boot manager? | 07:46 |
| === Nafallo is jealous on both the work and the pool, he might add :-) | ||
| ogra | Nafallo, that was the first day... | 07:47 |
| jon1012 | ogra: I don't have an account on the ubuntu wiki, could you add it ? (I would be very happy if you could :)) | 07:47 |
| ogra | jon1012, ok, i put it on my todo list | 07:47 |
| jon1012 | ogra: thank you really much | 07:48 |
| Nafallo | ogra: I'm still jealous :-P | 07:48 |
| === jon1012 is not an ubuntu guy anymore lol | ||
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| jon1012 | (even if ubuntu is nice) | 07:49 |
| ogra | jon1012, why did you drop it ? | 07:49 |
| jon1012 | (but apt-get beurk, conary is really better) | 07:49 |
| jon1012 | bwah, I'm a Foresight Desktop Linux guy... | 07:49 |
| jon1012 | I work a lot on this distro now :) | 07:49 |
| jon1012 | (I'm a member of the team) | 07:49 |
| === ogra never heard of Foresight | ||
| jon1012 | since conary is a great package managing system | 07:50 |
| === Nafallo either | ||
| jon1012 | ogra: http://www.foresightlinux.com | 07:50 |
| jabra | ogra: could you review my radmind package | 07:50 |
| ogra | abelli, put ubm on UniverseCandidates .... | 07:50 |
| jon1012 | for example with debian packages it takes hour to make packages, review them etc... with conary in 5 minutes a recipe (this is how we call the packages sources) is made and added in the repos. if it's accepted | 07:51 |
| ogra | jabra, i go through the to review wiki page regulary... so i will indeed eventually do it :) | 07:52 |
| jon1012 | (I'm Jonathan Schemoul, the art director and gnome devel. of foresight linux) | 07:52 |
| ogra | jon1012, how do you guys handle the apple patent issues with howl ? | 07:53 |
| jon1012 | ogra: well... for the moment we don't really know, but it will probably be passed in our extra european repositories loool | 07:54 |
| jon1012 | ogra: just like mp3 support and things like this | 07:54 |
| ogra | hmmm | 07:54 |
| ogra | http://www.foresightlinux.com/screenshots/index.php?image=xlock.png | 07:54 |
| jon1012 | ogra: yeah a lot of users asked us something like this... we have worked a lot on it, and we even have round password stuff | 07:55 |
| jabra | ogra: cool thanks | 07:55 |
| ogra | you have worked a lot on what ? | 07:56 |
| jon1012 | on the xscreensaver stuff | 07:57 |
| ogra | could elaborate on that ? what exactly did you do, except changing the logo and colors | 07:58 |
| jon1012 | because the password where appearing as squares at first, so we worked to made it appear as round | 07:58 |
| jon1012 | and also yeah to put the colors and all | 07:58 |
| jon1012 | I am not the guy who made the C coding for this, but I'm the logo creator, so I did the xpm stuff | 07:59 |
| jon1012 | ogra: however thank you ubuntu guys forthe xlock work you did | 07:59 |
| ogra | youre welcome, it was my patch | 07:59 |
| abelli | jon1012: i was behing ogra, when he done that. | 08:00 |
| abelli | :) | 08:00 |
| jon1012 | oh thank you really much then | 08:00 |
| abelli | s/done/did | 08:00 |
| jon1012 | ogra: if you want we have our modifications on the conary repositories, a simple cvc co xscreensaver could give you the sourcecodes | 08:00 |
| abelli | well, i actually have a photo of him and mark working on the design. | 08:01 |
| ogra | jon1012, nope, no need for that... this patch will die in ubuntu for breezy.... we'll have a cooler solution by then | 08:01 |
| jon1012 | ogra: maybe we could work together on it... (I mean the person in the foresight team working on it and you) | 08:02 |
| ogra | keep it and spread it as you like ;) if he has questions he can mail me... | 08:03 |
| jon1012 | thanks :) | 08:03 |
| ogra | but beware, it wont work with the next upstream update anymore, upstream made to many changes in this code | 08:03 |
| jon1012 | ogra: have you done the patches to make it appear as round stuff instead of squares in ubuntu ? | 08:03 |
| jon1012 | (in foresight, xiaowen, the girl who was in charge of it, worked for hours to find the solution, and finally our xscreensaver is now working correctly) | 08:04 |
| ogra | yep, but you need a fully utf8 aware system and the right font for that, so the patch as it is can only work on a system configured like hoary... | 08:04 |
| jon1012 | oh ok :) | 08:05 |
| jon1012 | so that's why it didn't work directly, and now after our patches it works :) | 08:05 |
| ogra | good | 08:05 |
| jon1012 | ogra: have you received the mails from Ken Vandine about your patch ? he told me he sent you some mails about it | 08:06 |
| === ogra digs hist 65000 mails.... | ||
| ogra | ah, yes, he sent one in the beginning of may... i somehow missed it, sorry.... | 08:08 |
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| hunger | How do I find out whom to contact about a universe deb? | 08:11 |
| jon1012 | ogra: I don't think he is angry :) no problem :) | 08:11 |
| abelli | hunger : sudo aptitude show packagename? | 08:11 |
| ogra | hunger, contact this channel | 08:11 |
| hunger | abelli: That is the debian maintainer. | 08:11 |
| hunger | ogra: So who is responsible for cryptsetup? | 08:12 |
| ogra | hunger, all motus care for all universe packages more or less... | 08:12 |
| abelli | hunger: right. what do you want to know? | 08:12 |
| abelli | hunger: ahh right. | 08:12 |
| ogra | hunger, some have favorites, but then the rest knows about it | 08:12 |
| hunger | abelli: I changed the initscript of that script and consider it to be better than what currently is there:-) | 08:13 |
| ogra | hunger, nobody... whats wrong with it ? | 08:13 |
| hunger | abelli: So I was wondering how to submit it for revision/inclusion. | 08:13 |
| abelli | hunger: why dont you contact the debian mantainer .. | 08:13 |
| ogra | it should be lsb-init clean | 08:13 |
| abelli | you will avoid work to motus | 08:13 |
| ogra | (your patch) | 08:13 |
| hunger | abelli: Because a) he does not respond and b) debian does not follow LSB. | 08:14 |
| hunger | ogra: lsb-init clean? | 08:14 |
| abelli | hunger: well ogra is surely more informed on facts than me. | 08:14 |
| ogra | yeah, follow the lsb ;) | 08:14 |
| hunger | ogra: Well, I can always sed s/log_blah_msg/echo/ ;-) | 08:15 |
| ogra | there are some standards for init scripts... they are used in all service start/stop scripts in main, but very rare in universe | 08:15 |
| abelli | ogra: right .. what about implementing in ubuntu the service status flag :)? | 08:15 |
| hunger | ogra: I noticed... and hated it;-) | 08:16 |
| abelli | fabio really had bad times with ub, | 08:16 |
| abelli | ..ubm | 08:16 |
| hunger | abelli: incidentally my cryptodisks supports "status";-) | 08:16 |
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| abelli | hunger: just yours ... :((( | 08:17 |
| abelli | hunger: what is it all about. | 08:17 |
| hunger | abelli: Please look at https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/563 | 08:17 |
| hunger | abelli: I had assumed a wishlist bug was appropriate, only to find out that I can not attach files. | 08:17 |
| tseng|work | oh man malone is starting to look nice | 08:18 |
| abelli | hunger: right | 08:18 |
| Mithrandir | tseng|work: 19:18 < Mithrandir> tseng: hm, how's beagle coming along? | 08:19 |
| === hunger does not yet grasp the idea behind malone. | ||
| hunger | Is it meant to be a not too feature complete bug tracker? ;-) | 08:19 |
| tseng|work | Mithrandir: just need to push the updated deps into universe | 08:20 |
| tseng|work | Mithrandir: and its ready to go | 08:20 |
| tseng|work | it was in NEW for hoary, but we vetoed it | 08:20 |
| tseng|work | rampant memory leaks are teh suck | 08:20 |
| Mithrandir | tseng|work: ok; ETA of any kind? | 08:21 |
| tseng|work | alot of stuff should get done tonight | 08:21 |
| tseng|work | i cant promise beagle will be in it | 08:21 |
| Mithrandir | ok, thanks | 08:22 |
| tseng|work | the last outstanding issue is, aj uploaded some stuff for me and the sigs are messed up, now im getting md5 conflicts like some diff.gz's are still around | 08:22 |
| tseng|work | if I dont run into that again, or get that cleared up | 08:22 |
| tseng|work | and get libgda sorted... | 08:23 |
| tseng|work | blah | 08:23 |
| tseng|work | we might not get gtk-sharp | 08:23 |
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| tseng|work | zomg | 08:25 |
| tseng|work | sucks dude, maybe not today at all | 08:25 |
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| herve | evening | 09:38 |
| Nafallo | herve: evening :-) | 09:39 |
| \sh | anybody has a clue here what 37000 british pounds are in euro? | 09:48 |
| \sh | or is someone interessted to do php development in SW london for 37k pounds + bens? extreme programming experience is a ++ | 09:50 |
| herve | \sh, yahoo finance | 09:50 |
| \sh | ah well | 09:50 |
| \sh | ca. 54k euro too less for london | 09:50 |
| Nafallo | http://daniel.haxx.se/currency/ | 09:50 |
| \sh | so i have to say no...anybody up for it? | 09:51 |
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| herve | england? no thanks :-) | 09:52 |
| \sh | herve: hehe... | 09:53 |
| herve | \sh, it's free of "taxes" ? | 09:55 |
| herve | I don't know the accoutancy term in Enlighs | 09:55 |
| \sh | herve: don't think so...I think i have to pay taxes in london then and in germany | 09:55 |
| herve | I don't think we're talking about the same taxes | 09:56 |
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| herve | to roughly translate French terms, there are the "raw" wages and after the social loads | 09:56 |
| herve | because that's a nice salary, even enough to live in paris | 09:58 |
| \sh | herve: hmm...there is a tax law, if i'm right, that if I work in a foreign country, I have to stay at least one year there, then I don't need to pay my social and income tax here in germany | 09:58 |
| \sh | herve: in london u have to pay at least twice the price as in munich :) | 09:58 |
| herve | \sh, ho right, I just realised you're german, not english :-) | 09:58 |
| \sh | herve: I'm not proud of it, but's the truth :) | 09:59 |
| herve | i certainly hope you're kidding :-) | 10:00 |
| \sh | herve: well...I'm not proud to be a german :) | 10:01 |
| \sh | i will write my headhunter "sorry, no, not much for living in london" ;) | 10:02 |
| herve | \sh, you should, I'd like to be german if not french | 10:02 |
| \sh | herve: well, I only like "Goethe" and "Schiller" but the rest, forget about that :) | 10:05 |
| \sh | oh ok, prof. weizenbaum indeed i like too :) | 10:05 |
| \sh | einstein was more amerikan then german, wernher von braun was a nazibastard, even he brought the american into space ;) | 10:07 |
| herve | einstein was german? | 10:08 |
| \sh | sure he was | 10:08 |
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| zul | uh yeah | 10:08 |
| GheRivero | rez | 10:08 |
| \sh | herve: u think he was swiss? | 10:09 |
| herve | \sh, sure he was from the east, from my point of view, but couldn't remember | 10:09 |
| herve | hi GheRivero | 10:10 |
| herve | \sh, yes I know he worked in zurich | 10:10 |
| zul | my father worked in kenya doesnt mean he was kenyan | 10:10 |
| \sh | herve: einstein was german, moved to zurich and than back to germany, and was being pushed to america cause of the nazis | 10:10 |
| herve | yes I remember now | 10:11 |
| \sh | in america he was accused to be a communist | 10:11 |
| herve | for the history: I never said he was swiss! | 10:11 |
| \sh | herve: nono :) i never said this :) but most of the people think he comes from switzerland ;) | 10:11 |
| \sh | herve: right now, 2005 == einsteinjahr (year of einstein) here in germany...:) | 10:12 |
| \sh | 2067 == wernher von braun year ;) | 10:12 |
| herve | there's a valuable typography heritage in germany | 10:13 |
| trulux | tritium: heya | 10:13 |
| trulux | tritium: my presentation for the LSM got accepted | 10:13 |
| trulux | tritium: | 10:13 |
| \sh | anyways...I have to choose between einstein or ratzinger.. einstein, the man who invented e=mc^2 or papa ratzi, formerly known as the german pope after 482 years ;) | 10:13 |
| herve | trulux, you come to the lsm ?? | 10:14 |
| trulux | herve: A presentation of mine got accepted for the Security mini-conf | 10:14 |
| trulux | herve: if everything goes well, I'll do | 10:14 |
| herve | and we could meet :-) | 10:14 |
| trulux | I need to clarify some things, put up some clear stuff and we'll be done | 10:14 |
| trulux | herve: sure!! | 10:14 |
| trulux | sivang is not here :( | 10:15 |
| \sh | ok..g'night guys...have work to do at 4:00am in our office | 10:15 |
| herve | night | 10:16 |
| herve | I can understand | 10:16 |
| herve | i woke up at 5 | 10:16 |
| trulux | \sh: sleep well | 10:16 |
| trulux | herve: shit... | 10:16 |
| herve | and spent half the day in trains | 10:16 |
| herve | trulux, I'll speak spanish :-p | 10:17 |
| trulux | herve: why? | 10:17 |
| herve | haven't done for so long | 10:17 |
| trulux | herve: hah, OK | 10:17 |
| trulux | but note that I need to clarify some things | 10:17 |
| trulux | I'm still not sure if I will be able to go | 10:18 |
| herve | i can't really help you for the accomodations | 10:18 |
| herve | but if you need to, i'll see what i can do | 10:18 |
| trulux | herve: I'll ask Axelle, she knows Serge Hallyn, who has worked with me and helped with many things, so, I may be able to get something | 10:19 |
| trulux | herve: thanks in advance | 10:19 |
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| dholbach | hey | 10:26 |
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| herve | hi dholbach | 10:29 |
| dholbach | hey herve | 10:29 |
| Nafallo | dholbach: hi there :-) | 10:36 |
| abelli | dholbach: im here | 10:37 |
| dholbach | abelli: even better | 10:38 |
| abelli | :) | 10:38 |
| abelli | dholbach: so that page is on the wiki? | 10:38 |
| dholbach | abelli: as i said: i'm terribly busy atm, have to finish my thesis in 3 months | 10:38 |
| dholbach | abelli: but if i find the time, i'd be happy to review your package or help you, if you run into trouble | 10:39 |
| dholbach | yes, wiki.ubuntu.com | 10:39 |
| abelli | ok .. | 10:39 |
| abelli | thesis, what about? | 10:39 |
| abelli | dholbach: ill bother ogra .. no probs :) | 10:39 |
| dholbach | server and client library for storage of user preferences | 10:40 |
| abelli | but will you gain to get ubm in? | 10:40 |
| abelli | dholbach: what framework? | 10:40 |
| dholbach | gain? | 10:40 |
| dholbach | framework? | 10:40 |
| ogra | abelli, if its packaged ok, we'll get it in universe, dont worry | 10:41 |
| abelli | ogra: :)))))) | 10:41 |
| abelli | dholbach: those libraries .. | 10:41 |
| herve | that reminds me, I'll ask for a review soon | 10:41 |
| abelli | dholbach: how do they work. | 10:41 |
| herve | that's the point of his thesis he hasn't written yet ;-) | 10:42 |
| dholbach | abelli: i wrote the server already and the library will make the requests to the server | 10:42 |
| abelli | c? | 10:42 |
| dholbach | the server is c++ and the library will be in C | 10:43 |
| abelli | gpl ? :) | 10:43 |
| dholbach | does somebody have the strange BUG that the screen turns blank every few seconds? | 10:43 |
| dholbach | *GRRR* | 10:44 |
| abelli | ogra: the problem is (im clearly joking, put your combat knife back .. im too young for it) .. when? | 10:44 |
| dholbach | and NO: the problem is not that i have a screensaver interval of 10 seconds | 10:44 |
| dholbach | yes, gpl and lgpl | 10:44 |
| herve | dholbach, check how your cable is connected | 10:44 |
| ogra | abelli, before breezy indeed.... | 10:45 |
| abelli | ogra: :) which is tomorrow or the day after tomorrow ? :D | 10:45 |
| herve | abelli, you'll see | 10:45 |
| trulux | abelli: did you see the new photos on the antenna "indoor"? | 10:45 |
| abelli | trulux: i just got in because the frenchy .. is writing some emails .. | 10:46 |
| abelli | trulux: ive got the logs, and hopefully your mail .. ill do it .. thank you very much. | 10:46 |
| abelli | s/frenchy/my girl friend | 10:46 |
| trulux | abelli: frenchy? do you mean the girlie :)? | 10:46 |
| trulux | abelli: hah | 10:46 |
| trulux | abelli: my pleasure, I hope you good luck and fun with the antenna | 10:47 |
| abelli | trulux: don't worry ill be back to you soon, with antenna's, tarzan, monkeys, lions.. | 10:47 |
| trulux | abelli: haha, no problem, bene! | 10:47 |
| trulux | ;) | 10:48 |
| abelli | we want to be anonymous .. because we have a mind .. and we want to be judged for what we are and not what we look like ... ;) | 10:48 |
| abelli | herve: mm i can't see since .. i think my hoary is stable enough .. im not going to do any upgrade. | 10:49 |
| abelli | even if .. if i want to bother trulux, pitti && company .. i need to have it running .. | 10:49 |
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| abelli | trulux: qemu or uml? | 10:49 |
| trulux | abelli: VMWare ;P | 10:50 |
| abelli | never :) | 10:50 |
| trulux | bbl, dinner smelling damn good | 10:50 |
| abelli | trulux: buon appetito. | 10:50 |
| abelli | its quite late dude. | 10:50 |
| trulux | abelli: time has no meaning for me if there's no business at issue ;) | 10:53 |
| ajmitch_ | hi all | 10:53 |
| abelli | trulux: soooo cooolllllll ... | 10:53 |
| abelli | ajmitch_: ciao | 10:53 |
| herve | hi ajmitch_ | 10:53 |
| === ajmitch_ just about has a fully breezy box :) | ||
| herve | yeah, so? | 10:54 |
| herve | :-) | 10:54 |
| ajmitch_ | after installing ~2000 packages to go from sid->breezy | 10:54 |
| herve | okay, *that* is adventurous! | 10:54 |
| abelli | sid ? is it a virus? | 10:55 |
| abelli | illness? | 10:55 |
| ajmitch_ | :) | 10:55 |
| ajmitch_ | abelli: you're thinking of grumpy | 10:55 |
| herve | see you spoon | 10:56 |
| abelli | hey ppl, if someone will ever ask me "hey i want to package something for ubuntu, but i dont know what a .deb is" .. what should i say? | 11:01 |
| dholbach | abelli: so what we have on the wiki is PbuilderHowto - which is IMHO very good to start serious packaging | 11:01 |
| dholbach | and PackagingTips (which just note SOME hints) | 11:01 |
| ogra | abelli, additionally reading the debian new maintainer guide is very helpful | 11:05 |
| abelli | ogra: that is the base .. but .. what about .desktop ? | 11:06 |
| ogra | but we'll have our own guide soon | 11:06 |
| dholbach | .desktop is the same as in debian | 11:06 |
| abelli | dholbach: is it explained? | 11:06 |
| abelli | a mean in the mantainer's guide? | 11:06 |
| abelli | well .. i read it some yrs ago .. | 11:07 |
| abelli | i dont remember it. | 11:07 |
| dholbach | the .desktop stuff is a more recent invention :-) | 11:08 |
| abelli | in fact :) | 11:08 |
| abelli | i didnt want to break Gods' karma :) | 11:08 |
| dholbach | http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ | 11:09 |
| ogra | you use dh_desktop to handle it ... | 11:10 |
| abelli | ok thank you . | 11:11 |
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| dholbach | hey bur[n] er | 11:14 |
| dholbach | oops | 11:14 |
| dholbach | hey Burgundavia | 11:14 |
| dholbach | ;-) | 11:14 |
| Burgundavia | salut | 11:14 |
| tritium_ | crimsun, do you use an irc proxy? | 11:25 |
| dholbach | hey tritium | 11:26 |
| tritium_ | hi dholbach :) | 11:26 |
| crimsun | tritium_: a shell, usually. | 11:44 |
| tritium_ | crimsun, how's that? | 11:45 |
| crimsun | tritium_: our users group (http://www.trilug.org) provides a free shell for its members | 11:45 |
| crimsun | it works out well | 11:45 |
| tritium_ | crimsun, oh, okay | 11:46 |
| crimsun | we're #trilug on freenode; we also have the most members on biglumber | 11:46 |
| tritium_ | thanks | 11:46 |
| tritium_ | crimsun, I've been trying out irssi-text in combination with screen, but was thinking about trying ctrlproxy or something similar | 11:47 |
| crimsun | tritium_: some people like dircproxy, but I find screen+irssi-text quite useful | 11:48 |
| crimsun | particularly since you can turn irssi-text into a proxy (per-network) | 11:48 |
| crimsun | then just use ssh tunneling to connect to your irssi proxy (it acts as an irc server) from any location using any irc client | 11:48 |
| tritium_ | hrm, perhaps I'll try that, rather than this 2-nick business | 11:49 |
| crimsun | try this: http://www.irssi.org/?page=docs&doc=proxy | 11:49 |
| tritium_ | many thanks | 11:49 |
| crimsun | np | 11:50 |
| tritium_ | I'll be back around later. | 11:51 |
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| crimsun | same here, need to run errands | 11:51 |
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