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asmodainice09:32
asmodaicomment bug got fixed09:32
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abellidaf: ping11:27
abelliciao a tutti11:27
dafciao abelli 11:27
abelliciao daf ..11:28
abellidaf: can you insert the .desktop file in your alexandria package?11:28
abellis/can you/could you please11:29
dafwhich version are you using?11:30
abelli0.411:30
abelli-211:30
dafok11:30
dafthe .desktop file is present in version 0.511:31
abellisomething really bad with it?11:31
abelligrr11:31
abelliis it somewhere in ubuntu?11:31
dafhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=alexandria11:31
dafit seems it's present in Breezy11:31
abellidaf: yeah sorry .. i didnt thought of it.11:32
abellithank you then.11:32
dafno worries11:32
abellii owe you a beer/orange juice/glass of water/pizza11:32
dafheh11:33
abellidaf: it has brokend dependencies11:38
dafah11:38
abelliit looks for libgnome2-ruby 0.12 and breezy has 0.1111:39
dafhmmm :/11:39
abellidehiho .. doh .. please.11:40
abelliwhy is it in universe :)=?11:41
dafheh11:41
abelliwhen will you think youll have it in breezy?11:42
abellitoo many "ll" ..11:42
abellis/will/do11:43
dafnot sure11:46
dafwe might still be syncing11:46
abellidaf: are you using it?11:46
abellii mean alexandria ver .5?11:46
dafyes11:47
abellihow?11:47
abelli:)11:47
dafwell, I uploaded the packages to Debian11:47
dafUbuntu is just syncing them11:47
abellithanks.11:48
abellibuona giornata a tutti11:49
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morgsedd: ping12:39
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Simiradaf: do translations in Hoary/Rosetta automatically go upstream when they're 100% translated?01:40
dafyes, we hack into the upstream CVS repositories and commit them there01:41
superteddaf: huh?01:42
spivdaf: You forgot to use explict <sarcasm> tags.01:43
dafwell, upstreams usually don't do it themselves01:43
dafso we have to do it for them01:43
dafspiv: :)01:44
spivdaf: One day, irc clients will fill them in automatically :)01:44
Simiraok, should I ask more specific: How do I get a ready file upstream?01:44
dafyou have to contact the upstream01:44
dafwe don't have a way of automating it at the moment01:44
asmodaiin an ideal world the rosetta system would notify the maintainers01:44
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carlosasmodai: rosetta should not do it if maintainers are not interested on it01:54
carlosI mean, if they don't say "Yes, I want to get spammed every time a translation is ready"01:55
dafstill, it's worth adding to the wish list page01:56
Simiradaf/carlos: ok, but what exactly do I do with wget in Hoary-translations, now when it's ready?01:56
asmodaicarlos: Why would you otherwise register your project on launchpad01:56
asmodaiand then register it with rosetta for getting translations01:57
asmodaiand you then let the user having to do notification of the project's maintainers to say a translation is done?01:57
asmodaiSeems opposite towards the workflow.  Of course you can always add a toggle for the email.01:57
mptasmodai: In the future I hope to have a Rosetta-centered signup page that still gives you a Launchpad account, but also lets you add your project to Rosetta and say "yes, I want to know about new translations" on a single page01:59
asmodaimpt: nice.01:59
carlosasmodai: all products imported into Rosetta are not from maintainers01:59
asmodaimpt: aren't you one of kiko's friends/acquaintances.02:00
carlossome of them are from translators that want to use Rosetta to translate that product.02:00
asmodaicarlos: Ahh, ok.02:00
mptasmodai: Yep02:00
asmodaicarlos: That's helpful as well as not.02:00
asmodaimpt: That explains why I thought your nick looked familiar. ;)02:00
carlosSimira: wget in Hoary-translations?, sorry don't get you02:00
asmodaimpt: How's tricks?02:00
mptasmodai: Midnight meetings are teh suck02:01
asmodaimpt: *laughs*02:01
asmodaimpt: Understandable.  They're now on -5 from me.  Can only imagine the difference to you.02:01
Simiracarlos: I'm soon done checking the Norwegian translation of wget, for a friend. What do I do afterwards, to make sure it's submitted?02:01
asmodaimpt: Been trying desparately landing a python related job here in NL.  Gah.  difficult.02:03
carlosSimira: For Ubuntu?, just upload it into Rosetta02:05
carlosSimira: if you want it inside upstream tarballs, you need to send it to upstream maintainer02:06
Simiracarlos: ok, I need to export the file from Hoary translations, and then upload it to Rosetta?02:07
carlosSimira: What do you understand as "Hoary translations"?02:08
carlosI thought you were already using Rosetta for it...02:08
Simiracarlos: I am. But it's kind of confusing when I go to "distros  ubuntu  hoary  +sources  wget" to translate it. 02:09
carlosthat's wget as we have it in hoary02:10
carloswhy Is it confusing?02:10
Simiracarlos: ok, so when we have translated it 100%, it's automatically updated in hoary?02:10
carloswe will do a translations update for hoary every month02:11
Simiraok02:12
carlosso yes, you don't need to care about anything to get them into Ubuntu02:12
Simiraok02:12
mptasmodai: Sorry, I don't know anyone in .nl, let alone snake handlers02:12
carlosbut it's a good thing to send the updates also upstream02:12
Simiracarlos: yes. Howto?02:12
carlosSimira: we don't have a procedure02:13
carlosbut the best way to do it is02:13
carloslook for the project web page02:13
carlosand a way to contact them02:13
carlosand send the translation02:13
Simiranotify the maintainer, I guess? Yes02:13
carlosyes02:14
Simirawell, I'll go that after lunch02:14
Simirathanks.02:14
SimiraBut you should have an option for automatic emailing maintainers when translations are done. An optional one.02:14
carlosSimira: please, add it to the RosettaWishList page 02:14
carlosat ubuntu's wiki02:14
Simirathat and more...02:15
Simiradid I ever get an answer on what's the best chance of getting things done? Adding it as a bug in Malone (as I was told earlier, and ahve done a lot), or in the wiki?02:15
asmodaimpt: Oh, was not saying you should look f or me ;)02:16
asmodaimpt: just commenting on the general state ;)02:16
carlosSimira: well, whatever you use, will not get lost02:17
carlosSimira: the wiki page lets other people know about what has been requested already02:17
carlosso it's up to you02:17
mdkecarlos, did you see bug 528?02:36
carlosI think so, will try to answer today02:36
mdkenot a problem02:40
mdkejust wanted to let you know. i don't think it was every a problem before, its suddenly appeared02:40
carlosmdke: well, I think it's the way he's trying to get the translation form. There seems to be a bug in that path02:42
carlosmdke: but https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/hoary/+translations should work02:43
carlosof course the other bug will be fixed, but If it's what I think, it's not Rosetta specific so I cannot tell you when it will be fixed (I hope soon).02:43
mdkeright02:45
mdkecarlos, i still get that error when accessing the translation from that url02:53
carloshmmm02:53
carloscan I get the link?02:53
mdkefrom that page, i click quickguide, then italian, then "show untranslated strings"02:53
mdkehttps://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/hoary/+sources/ubuntu-docs/+pots/quickguide/+translate?languages=it02:53
carlosooh, that02:57
carloshmm, I think that we were talking about two different bugs then02:57
carlosmdke: I did a change to Rosetta that hope will reach the server next week and will fix that problem02:58
mdkecarlos, cool02:58
mdkeperhaps i got the bug number wrong ;)03:00
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carlosmdke: no, I was talking with you relaying in my memory :-)03:03
carlosand I'm still a bit "jet lagged"03:03
carlosso I'm the point of failure here :-P03:04
mdkecarlos, take some time out to relax03:04
mdkei'm off on holiday myself today03:04
mdkecarlos, how did UDU go re: Rosetta?03:04
pschulz01greetings. I've just signed up.. and have a small patch for 'fdclock'03:05
pschulz01what should I do?03:05
carlosmdke: really good, we have a list of feature we are going to develop for next two months already. Need to dump it into the wiki so all people knows it03:05
mdkegreat03:05
carlospschulz01: hmmm, not sure if it's related with launchpad itself... I suppose fdclock is an Ubuntu application, right?03:06
pschulz01'free desktop clock'03:06
carlosmdke: did you saw the spec about Ubuntu doc imports?03:06
carlospschulz01: ok, then I suppose you should go to #ubuntu-devel03:06
pschulz01I reported a bug with 'reportbug' (something different.03:06
mdkecarlos, i tried but the wiki was password protected03:07
carlospschulz01: hmm, reportbug sends the bugs to debian03:07
pschulz01#ubuntu-users (bob2) suggested I look at launchpad...03:07
bob2er03:07
bob2I told you what to do03:07
bob2go to bugzilla if the package is in main03:07
carlosmdke: I put an open copy at the udu wiki, the only missing part is the implementation plan....03:07
pschulz01carlos: no.. the email goes to ubuntu-users03:07
carlosoh03:07
bob2malone (I gave you the url) if it's in universe03:07
carlosdidn't know that03:07
mdkecarlos, will look when I get back03:08
carlosmdke: ok03:08
pschulz01bob2: hi! Yes i'm registered.. and I came here to find out what to do next.03:08
bob2pschulz01: go to the url I gave you03:08
pschulz01bob2: done that. fdclock not a registered product.03:09
pschulz01bob2: should I register it?03:10
carlospschulz01: there is already such product...03:34
carlospschulz01: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/products/fdclock/+filebug03:34
carlos(not sure if you just created it...)03:34
carlosyeah, you are the owner :-P03:34
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pschulz01I just edded it.03:40
pschulz01'added'03:40
pschulz01How do I add add a patch?03:41
carlospschulz01: malone does not allows you to attach files (yet)03:42
carlosif it's not too long, add it inside the text area03:42
pschulz01Sould I send it directly to the maintainer?03:42
carlosif it's too long, try to put there a link to it03:42
pschulz01This first one is very short :-)03:43
carlospschulz01: if you want it applied upstream, I suppose it's faster if you send it to the maintainer03:43
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pschulz01I tried to add a comment to a bug (568) and got an error...04:00
pschulz01When this happened previously, I tried again and it seemed to work.04:00
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Burgundaviawho would I email abut double accounts on launchpad08:46
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dholbachhey08:46
SteveAdo you mean that you have two separate accounts, and you'd like to make them one?08:46
Burgundaviayes08:47
SteveAthere's a link here :  https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/foaf/people08:47
SteveAthe link is for "merge them"08:47
SteveAyou get some emails with URLs in, and go to the URLs to show that you have those email addresses08:48
SteveAother than that, it is automatic08:48
Burgundaviaick08:48
BurgundaviaI have an issue08:48
Burgundaviathe email my launchpad/wiki account is under is dead08:49
Burgundaviaand I have no way of getting it back08:49
SteveAi see.08:50
Burgundaviaone of the accounts has zero activity, so it can be deleted08:50
SteveAokay, what's the email address or name of that account?08:50
Burgundaviahttps://launchpad.ubuntu.com/foaf/people/corey-burger/ <-- this one08:50
SteveAokay08:51
Burgundaviahttps://launchpad.ubuntu.com/foaf/people/cburger/ <-- this is the one I edit under, which is still under the email cburger@victoria.tc.ca08:51
BurgundaviaI have no idea where the empty account came from08:51
BurgundaviaI would guess some auto merge wierdness08:51
SteveAokay, i'll pass this on to the database admin08:52
Burgundaviathanks08:52
BurgundaviaSteveA, just a sec08:53
BurgundaviaI may be able to solve it08:53
BurgundaviaSteveA, I thought you needed to send to both email addys08:55
Burgundaviabut you didn't08:55
SteveAso, it's sorted out for you?08:55
Burgundaviayep08:56
SteveAcool08:56
Burgundaviathanks for the info08:56
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jbaileyI'm trying to 'Request Merge of User Accounts', and either me or the application is confused.11:46
jbaileyI got here because I went to add my home email to my launchpad account, and says that I already exist.11:46
jbaileyI went to merge, and typed in my other email address under duplicated account, but there it says that it can't find it.11:47
Kinnisonmerging seems complicated and incomplete currently11:47
jbaileyWhen I click "(list)", the select person popup box shows up, but it also doesn't know jbailey@raspberryginger.com11:47
jbaileyAh, okay.11:48
jbaileylifeless told me that I should actually report bugs that I've been having in Launchpad these days.  Does Malone handle bugs for the launchpad product?11:49
jbaileyI'd like to add myself to a cc: list for the bug so I can remember to merge these when it's ready.11:49
JanCjbailey : AFAIK launchpad user accounts only use the part before '@' as the username11:50
jbaileyJanC: I can try that, but 'jbailey' is a pretty overloaded name out there.11:51
JanCyeah, maybe they automaticly add a number or something ?11:51
jbaileyCreepy, it has apparently just sent an email out to the account I want to merge with.11:51
JanCduring the import I mean11:51
jbaileyNo indication of who that was.11:52
jbaileyImport?11:52
JanCimport from the old accounts (wiki, mailing list addresses, ...) into "launchpad persons"11:52
jbaileyAh, interesting.11:52
jbaileyThen I probably have a pile of them.11:52
JanCI was listed 3 times because I used 3 e-mail addresses  ;-)11:53
jbaileyIt remains a bug, I suspect, that this isn't obvious (especially given that the screen before I was using an emailaddress to identify myself)11:53
JanCyou probably better ask someone who works on this  :-)11:54
jbaileyAlso, depending on what all it imported, I probably have accounts in there that I can't get to - A few of my Debian packages still use a really old email address that I can't send or receive mails from anymore.11:54
jbaileyJanC: Ah, sorry about that.  I hadn't realised I was in the wrong place.11:55
jbaileyJanC: Where's the right place to put the questions?11:55
JanCno it's okay here, but it seems like nobody is around11:56
JanCat least, none of the developers did answer yet  :)11:56
jbaileyIt's all good, I'm patient.  Timezones suck.11:56
KinnisonThe relevant developers are almost certainly asleep11:58
jbaileyKinnison: Or just crawling out of bed.11:59
jbaileyKinnison: Thinking of which, are you feeling better yet?11:59
JanCtimezones are fun, they mean there is almost always someone awake on one of the more general Ubuntu channels  ;-)11:59

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