=== JanC [~janc@dD5764B2F.access.telenet.be] has joined #launchpad === JanC [~janc@JanC.member.lugwv] has joined #launchpad === asgeirf [~asgeir@203-206-22-136.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #launchpad === uriel [~binarydre@green.eye.binarydream.org] has left #launchpad [] [09:32] nice [09:32] comment bug got fixed === martink [~martin@pD9EB2A04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #launchpad === abelli [~john@c3989ea3d31115c4.node.tor] has joined #launchpad [11:27] daf: ping [11:27] ciao a tutti [11:27] ciao abelli [11:28] ciao daf .. [11:28] daf: can you insert the .desktop file in your alexandria package? [11:29] s/can you/could you please [11:30] which version are you using? [11:30] 0.4 [11:30] -2 [11:30] ok [11:31] the .desktop file is present in version 0.5 [11:31] something really bad with it? [11:31] grr [11:31] is it somewhere in ubuntu? [11:31] http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=alexandria [11:31] it seems it's present in Breezy [11:32] daf: yeah sorry .. i didnt thought of it. [11:32] thank you then. [11:32] no worries [11:32] i owe you a beer/orange juice/glass of water/pizza [11:33] heh [11:38] daf: it has brokend dependencies [11:38] ah [11:39] it looks for libgnome2-ruby 0.12 and breezy has 0.11 [11:39] hmmm :/ [11:40] dehiho .. doh .. please. [11:41] why is it in universe :)=? [11:41] heh [11:42] when will you think youll have it in breezy? [11:42] too many "ll" .. [11:43] s/will/do [11:46] not sure [11:46] we might still be syncing [11:46] daf: are you using it? [11:46] i mean alexandria ver .5? [11:47] yes [11:47] how? [11:47] :) [11:47] well, I uploaded the packages to Debian [11:47] Ubuntu is just syncing them [11:48] thanks. [11:49] buona giornata a tutti === mpt [mpt@210-55-43-128.dialup.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === morgs [~morgan@wblv-146-192-117.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #launchpad [12:39] edd: ping === Simira [~simira@56.80-202-210.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad [01:40] daf: do translations in Hoary/Rosetta automatically go upstream when they're 100% translated? [01:41] yes, we hack into the upstream CVS repositories and commit them there [01:42] daf: huh? [01:43] daf: You forgot to use explict tags. [01:43] well, upstreams usually don't do it themselves [01:43] so we have to do it for them [01:44] spiv: :) [01:44] daf: One day, irc clients will fill them in automatically :) [01:44] ok, should I ask more specific: How do I get a ready file upstream? [01:44] you have to contact the upstream [01:44] we don't have a way of automating it at the moment [01:44] in an ideal world the rosetta system would notify the maintainers === daf back in a bit [01:54] asmodai: rosetta should not do it if maintainers are not interested on it [01:55] I mean, if they don't say "Yes, I want to get spammed every time a translation is ready" [01:56] still, it's worth adding to the wish list page [01:56] daf/carlos: ok, but what exactly do I do with wget in Hoary-translations, now when it's ready? [01:56] carlos: Why would you otherwise register your project on launchpad [01:57] and then register it with rosetta for getting translations [01:57] and you then let the user having to do notification of the project's maintainers to say a translation is done? [01:57] Seems opposite towards the workflow. Of course you can always add a toggle for the email. [01:59] asmodai: In the future I hope to have a Rosetta-centered signup page that still gives you a Launchpad account, but also lets you add your project to Rosetta and say "yes, I want to know about new translations" on a single page [01:59] mpt: nice. [01:59] asmodai: all products imported into Rosetta are not from maintainers [02:00] mpt: aren't you one of kiko's friends/acquaintances. [02:00] some of them are from translators that want to use Rosetta to translate that product. [02:00] carlos: Ahh, ok. [02:00] asmodai: Yep [02:00] carlos: That's helpful as well as not. [02:00] mpt: That explains why I thought your nick looked familiar. ;) [02:00] Simira: wget in Hoary-translations?, sorry don't get you [02:00] mpt: How's tricks? [02:01] asmodai: Midnight meetings are teh suck [02:01] mpt: *laughs* [02:01] mpt: Understandable. They're now on -5 from me. Can only imagine the difference to you. [02:01] carlos: I'm soon done checking the Norwegian translation of wget, for a friend. What do I do afterwards, to make sure it's submitted? [02:03] mpt: Been trying desparately landing a python related job here in NL. Gah. difficult. [02:05] Simira: For Ubuntu?, just upload it into Rosetta [02:06] Simira: if you want it inside upstream tarballs, you need to send it to upstream maintainer [02:07] carlos: ok, I need to export the file from Hoary translations, and then upload it to Rosetta? [02:08] Simira: What do you understand as "Hoary translations"? [02:08] I thought you were already using Rosetta for it... [02:09] carlos: I am. But it's kind of confusing when I go to "distros ubuntu hoary +sources wget" to translate it. [02:10] that's wget as we have it in hoary [02:10] why Is it confusing? [02:10] carlos: ok, so when we have translated it 100%, it's automatically updated in hoary? [02:11] we will do a translations update for hoary every month [02:12] ok [02:12] so yes, you don't need to care about anything to get them into Ubuntu [02:12] ok [02:12] asmodai: Sorry, I don't know anyone in .nl, let alone snake handlers [02:12] but it's a good thing to send the updates also upstream [02:12] carlos: yes. Howto? [02:13] Simira: we don't have a procedure [02:13] but the best way to do it is [02:13] look for the project web page [02:13] and a way to contact them [02:13] and send the translation [02:13] notify the maintainer, I guess? Yes [02:14] yes [02:14] well, I'll go that after lunch [02:14] thanks. [02:14] But you should have an option for automatic emailing maintainers when translations are done. An optional one. [02:14] Simira: please, add it to the RosettaWishList page [02:14] at ubuntu's wiki [02:15] that and more... [02:15] did I ever get an answer on what's the best chance of getting things done? Adding it as a bug in Malone (as I was told earlier, and ahve done a lot), or in the wiki? [02:16] mpt: Oh, was not saying you should look f or me ;) [02:16] mpt: just commenting on the general state ;) [02:17] Simira: well, whatever you use, will not get lost [02:17] Simira: the wiki page lets other people know about what has been requested already [02:17] so it's up to you [02:36] carlos, did you see bug 528? [02:36] I think so, will try to answer today [02:40] not a problem [02:40] just wanted to let you know. i don't think it was every a problem before, its suddenly appeared [02:42] mdke: well, I think it's the way he's trying to get the translation form. There seems to be a bug in that path [02:43] mdke: but https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/hoary/+translations should work [02:43] of course the other bug will be fixed, but If it's what I think, it's not Rosetta specific so I cannot tell you when it will be fixed (I hope soon). [02:45] right [02:53] carlos, i still get that error when accessing the translation from that url [02:53] hmmm [02:53] can I get the link? [02:53] from that page, i click quickguide, then italian, then "show untranslated strings" [02:53] https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/hoary/+sources/ubuntu-docs/+pots/quickguide/+translate?languages=it [02:57] ooh, that [02:57] hmm, I think that we were talking about two different bugs then [02:58] mdke: I did a change to Rosetta that hope will reach the server next week and will fix that problem [02:58] carlos, cool [03:00] perhaps i got the bug number wrong ;) === pschulz01 [~paul@203.87.111.72] has joined #launchpad [03:03] mdke: no, I was talking with you relaying in my memory :-) [03:03] and I'm still a bit "jet lagged" [03:04] so I'm the point of failure here :-P [03:04] carlos, take some time out to relax [03:04] i'm off on holiday myself today [03:04] carlos, how did UDU go re: Rosetta? [03:05] greetings. I've just signed up.. and have a small patch for 'fdclock' [03:05] what should I do? [03:05] mdke: really good, we have a list of feature we are going to develop for next two months already. Need to dump it into the wiki so all people knows it [03:05] great [03:06] pschulz01: hmmm, not sure if it's related with launchpad itself... I suppose fdclock is an Ubuntu application, right? [03:06] 'free desktop clock' [03:06] mdke: did you saw the spec about Ubuntu doc imports? [03:06] pschulz01: ok, then I suppose you should go to #ubuntu-devel [03:06] I reported a bug with 'reportbug' (something different. [03:07] carlos, i tried but the wiki was password protected [03:07] pschulz01: hmm, reportbug sends the bugs to debian [03:07] #ubuntu-users (bob2) suggested I look at launchpad... [03:07] er [03:07] I told you what to do [03:07] go to bugzilla if the package is in main [03:07] mdke: I put an open copy at the udu wiki, the only missing part is the implementation plan.... [03:07] carlos: no.. the email goes to ubuntu-users [03:07] oh [03:07] malone (I gave you the url) if it's in universe [03:07] didn't know that [03:08] carlos, will look when I get back [03:08] mdke: ok [03:08] bob2: hi! Yes i'm registered.. and I came here to find out what to do next. [03:08] pschulz01: go to the url I gave you [03:09] bob2: done that. fdclock not a registered product. [03:10] bob2: should I register it? [03:34] pschulz01: there is already such product... [03:34] pschulz01: https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/products/fdclock/+filebug [03:34] (not sure if you just created it...) [03:34] yeah, you are the owner :-P === moonunit [~moonunit@bi-02pt1.bluebird.ibm.com] has joined #launchpad [03:40] I just edded it. [03:40] 'added' [03:41] How do I add add a patch? [03:42] pschulz01: malone does not allows you to attach files (yet) [03:42] if it's not too long, add it inside the text area [03:42] Sould I send it directly to the maintainer? [03:42] if it's too long, try to put there a link to it [03:43] This first one is very short :-) [03:43] pschulz01: if you want it applied upstream, I suppose it's faster if you send it to the maintainer === carlos -> lunch === Simira [~simira@56.80-202-210.nextgentel.com] has left #launchpad [] [04:00] I tried to add a comment to a bug (568) and got an error... [04:00] When this happened previously, I tried again and it seemed to work. === SteveA_ [~steve@213.226.190.178] has joined #launchpad === SteveA_ [~steve@213.226.190.178] has joined #launchpad === morgs|afk [~morgan@wblv-146-192-117.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #launchpad [] === SteveA_ [~steve@213.226.190.192] has joined #launchpad === SteveA__ [~steve@adsl-213-190-44-43.takas.lt] has joined #launchpad === Burgundavia [~corey@S010600d0b748c4c1.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad [08:46] who would I email abut double accounts on launchpad === dholbach [~daniel@td9091d64.pool.terralink.de] has joined #launchpad [08:46] hey [08:46] do you mean that you have two separate accounts, and you'd like to make them one? [08:47] yes [08:47] there's a link here : https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/foaf/people [08:47] the link is for "merge them" [08:48] you get some emails with URLs in, and go to the URLs to show that you have those email addresses [08:48] other than that, it is automatic [08:48] ick [08:48] I have an issue [08:49] the email my launchpad/wiki account is under is dead [08:49] and I have no way of getting it back [08:50] i see. [08:50] one of the accounts has zero activity, so it can be deleted [08:50] okay, what's the email address or name of that account? [08:50] https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/foaf/people/corey-burger/ <-- this one [08:51] okay [08:51] https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/foaf/people/cburger/ <-- this is the one I edit under, which is still under the email cburger@victoria.tc.ca [08:51] I have no idea where the empty account came from [08:51] I would guess some auto merge wierdness [08:52] okay, i'll pass this on to the database admin [08:52] thanks [08:53] SteveA, just a sec [08:53] I may be able to solve it [08:55] SteveA, I thought you needed to send to both email addys [08:55] but you didn't [08:55] so, it's sorted out for you? [08:56] yep [08:56] cool [08:56] thanks for the info === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-4-99.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad === Burgundavia is now known as CountofDijon === CountofDijon is now known as Burgundavia === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-4-99.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #launchpad ["I] === dholbach [~daniel@td9091d64.pool.terralink.de] has left #launchpad ["Verlassend"] === Burgundavia [~corey@S010600d0b748c4c1.gv.shawcable.net] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] === jbailey [~jbailey@dhcp802-2-37.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #launchpad [11:46] I'm trying to 'Request Merge of User Accounts', and either me or the application is confused. [11:46] I got here because I went to add my home email to my launchpad account, and says that I already exist. [11:47] I went to merge, and typed in my other email address under duplicated account, but there it says that it can't find it. [11:47] merging seems complicated and incomplete currently [11:47] When I click "(list)", the select person popup box shows up, but it also doesn't know jbailey@raspberryginger.com [11:48] Ah, okay. [11:49] lifeless told me that I should actually report bugs that I've been having in Launchpad these days. Does Malone handle bugs for the launchpad product? [11:49] I'd like to add myself to a cc: list for the bug so I can remember to merge these when it's ready. [11:50] jbailey : AFAIK launchpad user accounts only use the part before '@' as the username [11:51] JanC: I can try that, but 'jbailey' is a pretty overloaded name out there. [11:51] yeah, maybe they automaticly add a number or something ? [11:51] Creepy, it has apparently just sent an email out to the account I want to merge with. [11:51] during the import I mean [11:52] No indication of who that was. [11:52] Import? [11:52] import from the old accounts (wiki, mailing list addresses, ...) into "launchpad persons" [11:52] Ah, interesting. [11:52] Then I probably have a pile of them. [11:53] I was listed 3 times because I used 3 e-mail addresses ;-) [11:53] It remains a bug, I suspect, that this isn't obvious (especially given that the screen before I was using an emailaddress to identify myself) [11:54] you probably better ask someone who works on this :-) [11:54] Also, depending on what all it imported, I probably have accounts in there that I can't get to - A few of my Debian packages still use a really old email address that I can't send or receive mails from anymore. [11:55] JanC: Ah, sorry about that. I hadn't realised I was in the wrong place. [11:55] JanC: Where's the right place to put the questions? [11:56] no it's okay here, but it seems like nobody is around [11:56] at least, none of the developers did answer yet :) [11:56] It's all good, I'm patient. Timezones suck. [11:58] The relevant developers are almost certainly asleep [11:59] Kinnison: Or just crawling out of bed. [11:59] Kinnison: Thinking of which, are you feeling better yet? [11:59] timezones are fun, they mean there is almost always someone awake on one of the more general Ubuntu channels ;-)