[12:02] dholbach: can you review my radmind package? [12:03] not tonight, but i will review it [12:03] promise [12:03] awesome [12:03] thanks, I really appreciate it [12:03] I am going to have another package soon as well [12:03] is it on MOTUToReview or MOTUNewPackages? [12:04] ToReview [12:04] I had added it to NewPackage by mistake. I then removed it [12:04] then everything's fine [12:05] try to be patient [12:05] there are unfortunately loads of people waiting [12:05] right [12:06] ok well I will build this other package in the meantime [12:06] I wanta get it into debian and ubuntu [12:07] jabra: don't get me wrong: we all appreciate your work with the MOTUs but pushing people towards your packages won't help i fear [12:08] ok I understand [12:09] it just seems that there isn't anything be updated on that site. [12:09] that is just what it seems to me [12:09] I am probably wrong though [12:10] you must understand: we are 10 people doing this in our free time [12:10] right [12:10] and we're maintaining packages ourselves and some of us just returned from australia [12:10] and universe are ~15000 packages [12:10] right [12:11] it's pretty annoying to wait for a review, i can absolutely understand your point [12:11] ok right [12:11] but i'm afraid that only patience helps here [12:11] ok [12:12] sorry for being annoying [12:13] don't worry [12:13] i just want to explain our current situation [12:13] i hope we will grow soon, so i'm glad you still do work on packages [12:15] basically I have sometime before I start my job and I just finished a semester of college (CO OP) [12:16] ah ok [12:17] so I am working on personnal projects and packaging for tools I use [12:21] brb === dholbach [~daniel@td9091d86.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:25] re [12:25] weee [12:25] monodoc_1.0.6-1ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED [12:25] :-))))9 [12:25] yeah [12:27] thats my first "real" upload [12:27] waaaaaah, the new beep-media-player skin is UGLY [12:27] dude, beep is ugly [12:27] use muine [12:27] or sonance [12:27] he has to wait for me and libgda :( [12:27] for those [12:28] is muine borked in breezy? [12:28] if you use amd64 [12:28] oh [12:28] ok [12:32] im fixing that atm === Burgundavia feels guilty as he hasn't done any packaging in ages === doko [~doko___@dsl-082-082-201-239.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.91.146] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] yay! my firewall works :-) [12:44] and you can even access IRC? impressive!" [12:44] hehe [12:45] just run a test from pcflank.com on 1-65535, everything does what it should :-) [12:45] stealthed except ssh, smtp and www :-) === womble [~mpalmer@newkevlar.wgong.baileyroberts.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] good night everyone [01:23] hey [01:24] tseng: anything you want me to break/unbreak now for mono? [01:24] or are you still waiting on the libgda stuff === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:25] hey AndyFitz [01:25] tseng: congrats on getting into the keyring, btw [01:26] heya ajmitch_ === JanC [~janc@dD5764B2F.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:49] ajmitch_: i can fix from here [01:49] ajmitch_: its taking my uploads now [01:49] excellent [01:50] dammit [01:52] just about got to breezy status [01:52] yeah i lost the amd64 fix [01:52] gotta readd [01:52] should fix the changelog too [02:07] gah upload privelages rock [02:10] ogra: that last upload was just for you [02:15] im getting used to this svn-buildpackage stuff === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:19] ajmitch_: im about to trash the hell out of your chroot I think === Nafallo let's festival read the log from #ubuntu-hardened ;-) [02:22] hows my nick sound? [02:22] silly [02:22] tseng: I'm not there yet ;-) [02:22] tseng: I had to sed "greater than" ;-) [02:22] oh man [02:22] hehe [02:22] yeah i always wonder how that works [02:23] because dmwaters uses all that text-to-speech stuff [02:23] joins are really irritating ;-) [02:24] i hope this is the last revision of mono for awhile [02:24] tseng: I just did cat rfc-1.log | sed s/\/\ / | festival --tts [02:24] :-) [02:24] weve made 5 [02:24] one because ajmitch_ cant cut and paste code :P [02:25] one because I'm a tool [02:32] mmm where is seb [02:32] is it sleep time there? [02:34] should be 1:34 or something... [02:34] spain, right? [02:35] france [02:35] should be either 1:35 or 2:35 then... [02:35] not sure which of them... [02:38] oh well [02:38] i mailed him [02:38] no wonder ive been talking to myself [02:38] hehe [02:38] I let the computer talk ;-) [02:39] oh man we are so close [02:39] mono++ [02:43] hmm, festival says SE Linux as SouthEast Linux ;-) [02:45] ajmitch_: http://tseng.ath.cx/images/mono.png [02:46] ajmitch_: tommorow could be the big day :) [02:54] tseng: Brandon Hale sounded good enough :-) [02:54] hah ok [02:54] i meant nick [02:59] hmm, capitalized code wasn't fun to hear for once. [02:59] tseng: you should soon join the channel I think ;-) [03:00] yay === zul [~chuck@CPE0006258ec6c2-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] hey I didn't cut & paste that code, I just did it from scratch :P.. [03:23] yeah, wrong! [03:23] :D [03:24] and then I went and clobbered it [03:24] oh well [03:24] oh fuck me [03:24] cli-common isnt available on amd64? [03:24] whats the deal with that [03:25] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [03:25] cli-common: Depends: mono-utils but it is not going to be installed or === ajmitch_ checks [03:25] cil-disassembler [03:25] Arch: all [03:26] mono-utils not built on amd64? did we miss it in the arch lines? [03:26] *looks* [03:26] we did [03:26] nah, debs are there [03:27] well [03:27] its not in my copy [03:27] of control [03:27] there are debs for 2ubuntu4 [03:27] none for 3ubuntu1 [03:27] ok [03:27] well [03:27] which is what the buildd will try & install [03:28] perhaps [03:28] tseng: lol [03:28] tseng: t-s-e-n-g ;-) [03:28] is anyone who can try to install mono-utils and see whats broke [03:28] on amd64 === ajmitch_ chuckles at jba's job hunting [03:28] he /msg me first [03:29] and I told him it was a long shot [03:30] tseng: damn your nick is irritating ;-) [03:30] has he got anything actually to show with ubuntu other than showing up at udu? [03:30] so can I put a # in control? [03:30] btw, I'm building a breezy chroot on amd64 :-) [03:31] Nafallo: thanks, you can test mono for us [03:31] zul: he must have done something on mono or be pretty slick with whois, he found the dec channel [03:31] dev. [03:31] heh [03:31] miguel invited me or i would have nfc [03:32] must go back to gcc4 thingy === JanC [~janc@JanC.member.lugwv] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] cli-common only has a build log for i386 [03:32] ajmitch_: yepp, that's the plan :-) [03:33] or i guess it is arch all so it builds on the 386? [03:36] yes [03:41] yeah wtf is broken [03:45] just that mono-util does'nt want to install on amd64 now [03:46] my internet connection is saturised by my nightly mirrorsync :-/ [03:46] ajmitch_: i know [03:46] ajmitch_: why [03:46] I'm trying to add a archive.ubuntu.com to my sources.list === jaldhar [~jaldhar@69.141.24.176] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [~bddebian@68.32.197.238] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:55] mono-utils: Depends: mono-assemblies-base but it is not going to be installed [03:56] hm [03:56] do you have amd64 for -assemblies-* ajmitch_ ? [03:56] also [03:56] http://www.go-mono.com/archive/1.1.7/ [03:56] crack of the day! [03:56] "Mono no longer requires a separate shared process to provide the previous features, this has significantly improved Mono's I/O performance. Beagle is three times as fast indexing files and xsp tripled its speed." [03:56] if I try to install to install that package it want's mono-common. [03:56] I try to install mono-common then... :-) [03:56] well [03:57] ill just read the diff out of pool [03:59] hmm, those packages are from my local mirror. they wasn't up2date. [04:00] uh [04:00] so 2ubuntu4 had amd64 in all the right places [04:00] I removed local mirror from sources.list, apt-cache policy still claimes mono-common to be 1.1.6-2ubuntu4 [04:00] because it is [04:01] ahh [04:01] so [04:01] what cant you install please [04:01] root cause [04:03] mono-common has candidate 1.1.6-2ubuntu4 [04:04] mono-assemblies-base: Depends: mono-common (= 1.1.6-3ubuntu2) [04:04] seems that's the problem... [04:04] explains a bit [04:04] seems that all archs need to be built in sync === ajmitch_ wonders who that jba person is [04:07] Heya ajmitch_ [04:07] hello bddebian [04:08] I am wondering what the differnce for packages build for ubuntu compared to those built for debian [04:18] um, what [04:18] ooooh [04:18] since the arch amd64 stuff borked its fucked, ok [04:19] no problem [04:21] goodnight people :-) [04:39] tseng: quit being lazy, mono 1.1.7 is out now. don't sleep until it's packaged. === zyga [~zyga@87-mia-9.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [~zyga@87-mia-9.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elmo_ [~james@83-216-141-215.jamest298.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:44] <\sh> morning gentlemen === zyga [~zyga@87-mia-9.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] crimsun: well, I tried to setup the proxy over ssh tunnel, but I can't seem to get it working [06:03] where does it not work? [06:04] can you connect to your irssi proxy without the ssh tunnel? [06:04] No [06:05] is the proxy module loaded in your irssi client, and have you set a port and a passwd for freenode? [06:05] not remotely, that is [06:06] ok, I presume 'tritium' is the irssi client? [06:06] yes [06:07] and yes to proxy module, port, and password question [06:09] ok, so from another irc client (say, from the same host), you should be able to connect to port $x and get the freenode session [06:09] yes, I can do that okay [06:09] can't do it remotely [06:09] ah, so you can't connect from outside to ip:x [06:10] right [06:10] does your isp allow a range of high incoming ports? [06:11] yes, but I've only port-forwarded ssh through my router. I believe that's what i have configured incorrectly [06:11] I mean the ssh tunnel [06:11] ah, yeah. You'll need to forward additional ports on your router [06:12] <\sh> ok..change request was successfull...now I can go back home and sleep [06:12] night, \sh [06:12] crimsun: despite tunneling? [06:12] Ah, I think I understand. [06:16] <\sh> crimsun: not so fast :) [06:16] ah :) === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === dholbach [~daniel@td9091d86.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:55] hey [06:55] Daniel! :) [06:56] hey michael! :-) [06:56] Hi dholbach :) [07:00] crimsun, okay, all setup now. Got ssh tunnel working. No need for port-forwarding on my router. [07:00] tritium: awesome. [07:01] crimsun, thanks again for the suggestion, and the help :) [07:01] np at all [07:01] morning daniel :) [07:01] hey crimsun :-) === tritium is a happy camper === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0946.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:11] 'morning [07:11] Morning, ivoks [07:11] what's up? :) [07:12] hey ivoks [07:12] dholbach [07:12] how are you? [07:12] sleepy :) === hunger_ [~hunger@p54A667E1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:12] me too [07:12] i'm up since 3AM [07:13] now is 7:12 [07:13] ivoks: here too :-) [07:13] lol [07:13] i had to finish some drawings in autocad :( [07:14] so, what's the procedure with packages in motu? [07:15] who is reviewing them and how long does it takes? [07:15] anybody of us will do it [07:15] but we're in a bottleneck situation at the moment [07:15] but i hope it'll get better soon [07:15] i can imagine :) [07:15] we're like ten people, doing it in our free time [07:15] i know [07:16] and maintain own packages as well, so being patient is highly appreciated :-) [07:16] hehehe [07:16] it's ok... [07:16] i can't give any ETAs [07:16] I will try and do a few reviews tonight [07:16] oh, crimsun [07:16] crimsun: good one... i will join you [07:17] crimsun i created my kernel package :) [07:17] crimsun but not ur way :) [07:17] ivoks: many paths to the same destination :) [07:17] ivoks: you should joing #ubuntu-kernel for that [07:17] dholbach i know === dholbach wonders, if he should introduce a "review day" for himself, like thursdays [07:18] :) [07:18] crimsun /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/debian.README says it all ;) [07:19] well... i have to reboot now :( [07:19] speaking of kernel-package, is it naming the result kernel-image or linux-image ? [07:19] i have to print those cad drawings and of to university [07:19] tritium it's linux-image on ubuntu [07:19] tritium but, by default it calls it kernel-package [07:19] ivoks, right, so kernel-package in ubuntu names them correctly? [07:20] tritium nope :( [07:20] That's what I thought. [07:20] tritium i explaied all in howto [07:20] ivoks, oh, where at? [07:20] wait, kernel-package creates kernel-image-foo? [07:20] that's a rather significant bug if so [07:20] crimsun i said that couple of times on couple of places :) [07:21] a few people I've recommended kernel-package to have told me the same [07:21] I've not used it in ubuntu, only debian [07:21] tritium http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelCompileHowto [07:21] ivoks, thanks [07:21] that probably needs to be merged, but we'll have to ask MOMs [07:22] crimsun https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10148 [07:22] uh-oh, a new acronymn I don't know... [07:22] tritium: (Masters of Main) [07:22] crimsun, thanks...should have guessed [07:23] There should be a MON for jack-of-all-trade types ;) [07:24] So perhaps kernel-package should be ubuntuized. dh-make could be modified a bit too [07:24] tritium heh... [07:25] i would sugest leave as is [07:25] kernel-package, or dh-make? [07:25] but change linux-image to kernel-image [07:25] but, that's only me :) [07:25] dh_make could spew alot less crap [07:26] tritium: i will change dh-make, if i get approved for main uploads in next tb meeting [07:26] dholbach, super@ [07:26] ! [07:26] ah... [07:26] why was decided to name images linux-image? [07:27] i already have a patch for it, but the debian guy didn't want it [07:27] well, i agree it's better than kernel-image, but produces more work [07:27] (using lsb-release and such) [07:27] ooh, good idea === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] this is longest period ubuntu stayed on my computer :) [07:34] last time i reinstalled debian after 2 weeks :) === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:43] ivoks, how come? === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.129.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:48] tritium it was warty [07:48] ivoks, oh, ok [07:48] i wasn't satisifed it it... [07:48] with it [07:49] man... i have to see a doctor [07:49] you okay? [07:49] i had car accident [07:49] week ago [07:49] since than i make a lot of typos.... [07:50] and my car is... well, there is no more car :) [07:50] sorry to hear that. === ogra [~ogra@p5089E0E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:50] oh shit :-/ [07:50] me too :( [07:51] guy smashed me from in the rear === susus [~sz@p5089E0E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:51] bumbed me in the car in front of me [07:51] didn't even brake... [07:51] ivoks, you got medical attention, I hope [07:51] tritium yeah, i was in hospital, but i didn't feel anything strange [07:52] they sanitized my neck [07:52] okay, good that you were checked [07:54] yeah.. [07:55] small car... i have to go to insurance company to see wich price they figured out :) === dholbach has his fingers crossed [07:56] dholbach me too [07:56] but the day didn't start well... it's raining :( [08:00] time to finally use an ubuntu kernel, brb [08:12] looks like ajmitch_ didn't make it :) [08:12] hopefully nothing serious [08:13] those fscks can take a bit ;) [08:13] :) [08:13] not on ext3/xfs/etc... [08:13] if you hit the mount limit, sure [08:13] (for ext3) [08:13] ah, tune2fs [08:14] -c 99999999 [08:14] yikes [08:14] I kinda like the ole 20 === tritium wishes G5s with 970MP would be available soon [08:15] i don't like ext3 at all [08:16] molotov follow ubuntuguid.org, u can't miss [08:16] ups :) [08:21] bye all, time to go [08:21] cya [08:21] bye ivoks === dholbac1 [~daniel@td9091d86.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mvirkkil [~mvirkkil@vipunen.hut.fi] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ajmitch_ [~ajmitch@port162-41.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:48] crimsun, it's nearly 3 am there, isn't it? [08:54] sleep is for the weak [08:54] heh, I'm weak then ;) [08:54] ya me too === jabra => bed [08:55] Same for me. Good night all. === dholbach [~daniel@td9091d86.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chmj [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [~koke@155.210.13.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsg [~jsg@202.57.71.236] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax7-030.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax7-030.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Danten [~danten@h46n8c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [~koke@155.210.13.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:06] hi all! === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:26] hey koke, AndyFitz [11:26] hi dholbach === ogra [~ogra@p5089E0E9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [~doko___@dsl-082-082-201-054.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HostingGeek is now known as NewGuyAskingNewQ === NewGuyAskingNewQ is now known as HostingGeek === Danten [~danten@h36n10c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tseng [~tseng@mail.thegrebs.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [~daniel@td9091d64.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:35] wb dholbach :) [12:35] yayay === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [~travis@ip68-229-188-97.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:00] morning all [01:00] hi [01:01] hmm, I'm going to build my test environment for my lappy. dunno if I should use chroot or pbuild though. [01:02] I tend to use both [01:02] well, chroots should be easier to set up from what I've heard :-) [01:03] I use the pbuilder base.tgz for setting up chroots :) [01:03] hehe [01:07] I might aswell use my local mirror :-) [01:08] hmm [01:12] hmm [01:12] dependancy problems with cpp gcc and g++ while debootstraping. [01:12] anyone else get this? [01:14] can't say I've tried debootstrapping breezy in the last couple of days - I know some changes have been made [01:14] I'll try debootstrapping without --variant. === herzi [~herzi@c180213.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:23] dooh! [01:23] I shouldn't follow wikipages without thinking... [01:24] which one ? [01:24] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebootstrapChroot [01:24] I copied my sources.list and just runned apt-get update [01:24] I should use breezy in the chroot, not hoary. [01:25] yeah [01:26] beware the power of sed ;-). fixed :-). [01:30] does anybody of you have a postgresql server up, on which i could try glom? :-) [01:31] not yet [01:31] dholbach: yeah, I think postgresql still works.. [01:31] what is glom? [01:31] a new DB frontend [01:31] database designer and user interface [01:31] ah ok [01:32] what do you mean by "postgresql still works"? :-) [01:32] I upraded to breezy, remember :) [01:33] just starting to hack on a tool to help me merge some of these packages - so many packages are still newer in debian [01:36] dholbach, didnt you package fast-user-applet already ? shouldnt it be on ToReview ? === ogra cleans out UniverseCandidates [01:37] i packaged it, but the new version requires /etc/gdm/gdm.conf to lie around in configure target [01:38] Unfrgive1's fusa build-deps on gdm [01:38] hmm... [01:38] i want to discuss this with upstream, since it's unacceptable [01:38] it should be runtime only, not compiletime [01:39]