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tseng | seb is my hero | 12:34 |
Burgundavia | oh? | 12:35 |
tseng | yes | 12:35 |
tseng | he fixed gnomedb | 12:35 |
Burgundavia | why? | 12:35 |
Burgundavia | ah | 12:35 |
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whiprush | tseng: you put your pictures up anywhere? | 01:17 |
tseng | tseng.ath.cx/photos | 01:19 |
whiprush | ta | 01:19 |
whiprush | I misplaced my cable so I'm ripping you off. :) | 01:20 |
tseng | huh? | 01:20 |
whiprush | cable to my camera | 01:20 |
whiprush | can't find it | 01:20 |
tseng | i see | 01:20 |
tseng | lamont: sorry, any chance of kicking gtk-sharp2-unstable_1.9.3-1ubuntu1 for gnomedb love | 01:23 |
whiprush | man, you got some great shots | 01:23 |
tseng | sure did | 01:24 |
tseng | http://tseng.ath.cx/photos/index.php?galerie=udu&snimek=14 | 01:24 |
tseng | im a fan of that | 01:24 |
whiprush | yeah, thanks for making me 2x as huge as I already am. | 01:24 |
whiprush | FEE FI FO FUM ... | 01:24 |
lamont | FEE FIE FOE FEE FIE FEE FOE | 01:25 |
tseng | hah | 01:25 |
tseng | i wish this one of lamont turned out better | 01:25 |
tseng | with his homeland security approved pliers | 01:26 |
tseng | http://tseng.ath.cx/photos/index.php?galerie=udu&snimek=19&exif_style=&show_thumbs= | 01:26 |
lamont | tseng: from the comedy club last night.... that's Mike Tyson telling someone his phone mumber | 01:26 |
lamont | with apologies to our non-english speaking audience | 01:26 |
tseng | hah! | 01:26 |
whiprush | any other galleries? | 01:26 |
lamont | tseng: I just gave back everything in universe that had 'libgda2-3' or 'libgnomedb' in it's log. | 01:27 |
lamont | which included gtk-sharp | 01:27 |
tseng | lamont: oh rock on. | 01:30 |
tseng | still 2 steps ahead | 01:30 |
tseng | whiprush: ive seen a few | 01:30 |
tseng | um | 01:30 |
tseng | jane and dilinger had some | 01:30 |
tseng | ogra | 01:30 |
whiprush | k | 01:31 |
lamont | hrm.. guess I should go get my camera and download my pics, eh? | 01:31 |
whiprush | I'll have a weeklong blogathon with them then | 01:31 |
lamont | tseng: sigh... is mono bootstrappable on amd64 yet? | 01:32 |
tseng | lamont: i know what part i missed merging now, should build properly with this upload | 01:33 |
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lamont | tseng: doesn't require any bootstrapping love from me? way cool! | 01:33 |
tseng | lamont: nope, just me doing nasty things to make cli-common build | 01:34 |
tseng | which is hopefully a one-time deal | 01:34 |
ajmitch_ | we hope | 01:35 |
ajmitch_ | it's such a small, insignificant change with that cli-common stuff | 01:35 |
tseng | gar i feel like im back at udu | 01:35 |
ajmitch_ | just enough to be annoying | 01:35 |
ajmitch_ | network is that crap? | 01:35 |
tseng | dhclient every 2 minutes | 01:36 |
ajmitch_ | ah | 01:36 |
tseng | did you see the muine made the tray icon a plugin? | 01:40 |
tseng | im not sure if i want to install it in the package | 01:40 |
ajmitch_ | if muine has an alarm plugin, I'll switch | 01:41 |
tseng | it does | 01:41 |
tseng | 2, actually | 01:41 |
ajmitch_ | excellent | 01:41 |
ajmitch_ | that's the main reason I use xmms still | 01:41 |
tseng | oh man | 01:41 |
tseng | welcome to 1998 | 01:41 |
ajmitch_ | xmms is great, it Just Works almost 50% of the time | 01:42 |
tseng | gtk-sharp_1.0.8-1ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED | 01:42 |
tseng | there we go | 01:42 |
ajmitch_ | rock on | 01:43 |
tseng | and 2 is already up | 01:43 |
tseng | um | 01:43 |
tseng | so gecko and gtksourceview | 01:43 |
tseng | dbust | 01:43 |
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Nafallo | hi all! anyone else suffering from insomnia? ;-) | 01:45 |
ajmitch_ | no, it's lunchtime here | 01:45 |
Nafallo | ajmitch_: where is here? .au? :-) | 01:49 |
Nafallo | ahh, .nz | 01:53 |
Nafallo | dholbach: are you busy atm? | 02:04 |
Nafallo | dholbach: anyway, my bug against gparted was a user-to-fast-to-read-bug. please read my comment and do what you think will suffice :-). | 02:21 |
Unfrgive1 | dholbach: ill have a look at why iptraf doesn build in breezy. it built fine in hoary. | 02:42 |
Unfrgive1 | dholbach: what did you think of my packaging in general? is it ok? have i made any major blunders? | 02:42 |
Unfrgive1 | dholbach: ive got some more gnome applets on the way | 02:42 |
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tseng | wow! | 02:54 |
tseng | mono 1.1.7 rocks. | 02:54 |
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ajmitch_ | ? | 02:58 |
tseng | ajmitch_: io rewrite | 02:58 |
tseng | ajmitch_: its so f'n fast | 02:58 |
ajmitch_ | excellent | 03:00 |
tseng | the official claim is beagled is 300% faster | 03:00 |
tseng | i believe it now | 03:00 |
ajmitch_ | worthwhile crack-of-the-day then | 03:01 |
tseng | yes | 03:01 |
tseng | next we need to get inotify working | 03:02 |
tseng | gamin cvs should be alright now | 03:02 |
ajmitch_ | do the patches still break everything when enabled? | 03:02 |
tseng | whenever we get a new kernel | 03:02 |
tseng | no | 03:02 |
tseng | actually i could turn it on now | 03:03 |
tseng | only one real bug | 03:03 |
tseng | hm nevermind that, i need a newer patch | 03:06 |
tseng | ajmitch_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/m/mono/1.1.6-3ubuntu6/ | 03:08 |
tseng | ajmitch_: we have arrived. | 03:08 |
ajmitch_ | and it is good | 03:08 |
ajmitch_ | so was that 10 uploads in total? | 03:08 |
tseng | something like that | 03:08 |
tseng | im a tool | 03:08 |
ajmitch_ | sweet, sweet crack | 03:08 |
tseng | so should i upload 1.1.7 | 03:09 |
tseng | or another 1.1.6 | 03:09 |
ajmitch_ | 1.1.7 | 03:09 |
tseng | hell yeah | 03:09 |
ajmitch_ | get that speed | 03:09 |
ajmitch_ | I think you should hack the preinst script to put up a huge notice if any backport versions are installed | 03:18 |
tseng | right.. | 03:18 |
tseng | ill get right on that after updating this dpatch | 03:18 |
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tseng | Subject: mono_1.1.7-0ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED | 03:52 |
tseng | party time | 03:52 |
ajmitch_ | that was nice & quick | 03:56 |
tseng | only had to fix one patch | 03:56 |
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tseng | im done abusing the buildd for today | 04:22 |
tseng | good night | 04:22 |
dholbach | nafallo: i won't tell publicly in what way i was busy... :-) | 04:32 |
ajmitch_ | night tseng | 04:34 |
dholbach | night tseng | 04:52 |
tseng | :( | 04:52 |
tseng | still cant sleep | 04:53 |
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dholbach | good night | 05:32 |
ajmitch_ | night dholbach | 05:33 |
ajmitch_ | sleep well :) | 05:33 |
dholbach | thanks | 05:33 |
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ivoks | morning | 07:00 |
ajmitch_ | hi | 07:01 |
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pjo | hello | 07:32 |
pjo | i got problems | 07:32 |
pjo | i do not know where to post my questions so pls advise where | 07:33 |
pjo | questions on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27811.html | 07:33 |
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ivoks | go to #ubuntu | 07:35 |
pjo | ivoks thanks i asked about there but not yet gotten any advise | 07:39 |
ivoks | well, u can try here, but on this channel are motu developers, not users | 07:40 |
pjo | ok | 07:40 |
pjo | I followed what is written on the page and I got errors http://pastebin.com/280316 | 07:41 |
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pjo | i would appreciate if you could examine the errors, ivoke | 07:42 |
ivoks | there isn't anything to follow on that page | 07:42 |
pjo | It looks like scim is trying to open a small window for inputting Japanese but scim could not do that | 07:42 |
ivoks | this is kde | 07:42 |
ivoks | i don't use and don't know anything about it | 07:43 |
pjo | "follow" i meant, i did what was written in there | 07:43 |
pjo | ok | 07:43 |
ivoks | where? | 07:43 |
pjo | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27811.html | 07:43 |
ivoks | there is only sh startkde.sh | 07:43 |
ivoks | ok, let's start from begining | 07:44 |
ivoks | go to #ubuntu, i'm over there | 07:44 |
pjo | can I open channel withb you because #unbutu is very busy | 07:44 |
ivoks | ok | 07:45 |
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Nafallo | morning all | 09:42 |
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ivoks | bye all | 10:00 |
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Nafallo | ogra: morning :-) | 10:24 |
ogra | hi | 10:26 |
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\sh | morning | 10:37 |
ajmitch_ | hi | 10:39 |
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herve | morning | 10:51 |
\sh | *grmpf* | 10:55 |
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dholbach | morning | 10:56 |
Nafallo | dholbach: hi! saw my msg? | 10:56 |
herve | morning dholbach | 10:56 |
dholbach | Nafallo: yes, but i don't quite remember, what it was about *blush* | 10:57 |
dholbach | *backlog* | 10:57 |
Nafallo | dholbach: hehe, my bug against gparted. | 10:57 |
dholbach | ah yes ok :-) | 10:57 |
Nafallo | dholbach: I looked through the source and the message was there, but I would love it to be more visible. | 10:58 |
Nafallo | dholbach: right now it's like <big>Do you want to convert this partition?</big> | 10:58 |
Nafallo | <br /> | 10:58 |
dholbach | upstream is in surinam atm, but i'll see if we can't change it | 10:58 |
herve | big? baaaah ! it's a deprecated element :-) | 10:59 |
Nafallo | <small>This will destroy all data!</small><br /><ok><cancel> | 10:59 |
dholbach | morning herve | 10:59 |
Nafallo | herve: and <ok> and <cancel> isn't there ;-) | 10:59 |
Nafallo | dholbach: change it to red text and make the text bigger or something :-) | 11:00 |
Nafallo | dholbach: or should I take a look at it again later? | 11:00 |
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herve | s/should/must | 11:00 |
dholbach | if you like to do it, don't stop yourself :-) | 11:01 |
herve | :-) | 11:01 |
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ogra | herve, <big> is fine in pango ;) | 11:02 |
\sh | 19:00 UTC == 21:00 german time? | 11:03 |
ogra | yep | 11:03 |
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Amaranth | utc == gmt ? | 11:04 |
Nafallo | big is also fine on irc to describe stuff ;-) | 11:04 |
Mithrandir | use date -d '2005-05-06 19:00 UTC' | 11:04 |
ogra | \sh, gworldclock ;) | 11:04 |
\sh | dholbach: why did u assign amu on the eric3 bug of malone? :) | 11:04 |
dholbach | date -u | 11:04 |
\sh | ogra: well...;) | 11:04 |
Mithrandir | dholbach: that's the other way around | 11:04 |
dholbach | Mithrandir: but he could verify :-) | 11:05 |
Nafallo | damn I need faster downstream... | 11:05 |
\sh | i need a bigger harddrive for my laptop | 11:05 |
Nafallo | my sync just finished first pass. after 6 bloody hours!! | 11:05 |
\sh | all the startrek seasons are not fitting :( | 11:05 |
dholbach | \sh: because it's some QT crack... i just wanted to have some assignees for bugs :-) | 11:05 |
Nafallo | \sh: hehe, feel the same about charmed and dead zone ;-). | 11:05 |
\sh | dholbach: yeah...and I'm fixing this bug, creating dpatches against pyqt and pykde :) | 11:06 |
ogra | \sh, get on with your MOTUness so we can bomb you with QT bugs ! | 11:06 |
\sh | ogra: hahaha...:) I'm waiting to become CoC member first :) | 11:06 |
dholbach | \sh: have fun :-) | 11:06 |
\sh | dholbach: it's done here locally...to test | 11:06 |
dholbach | that's how all patches start ;-) | 11:07 |
\sh | dholbach: and if upstream does not provide a new release on monday, I will release the patched working version | 11:07 |
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ogra | \sh, how about your packagemanager thingie ? did you et in contact with mvo already ? kubuntu looks for something like that it seems | 11:07 |
Nafallo | ...and time at the vet in 2 hours :-/ | 11:08 |
ogra | how's your rabbit ? better today ? | 11:09 |
\sh | dholbach: upstream said that he wants to provide a new release with patches applied | 11:09 |
dholbach | cool | 11:09 |
Nafallo | ogra: yea a little, he actually uses the bad leg when standing, but he isn't when jumping around :-/. | 11:11 |
Nafallo | ogra: he still tries to bit me when I get close to :-/. | 11:11 |
Nafallo | s/bit/bite/ | 11:11 |
ogra | but at least he stands again.... sounded bad yesterday.... | 11:12 |
\sh | ogra: not right now...but as i saw from a couple of postings of michael, he has also some problems with this thing | 11:12 |
\sh | ogra: and changing the kynaptic source is a fscking hell of work | 11:12 |
\sh | ogra: problem is, there is no documentation | 11:12 |
ogra | \sh, i think they want to drop kynaptic for something better | 11:13 |
Nafallo | ogra: he stood on three legs yesterday. he's layed down mostly. | 11:13 |
ogra | \sh, SO WRITE SOMETHING AND GET FAMOUS MAN ! | 11:13 |
Nafallo | right now he's sleeping... | 11:13 |
\sh | ogra: harhar | 11:14 |
\sh | ogra: u had a nice time down under, I had fscking stress and work here ;) | 11:14 |
\sh | ogra: i need a life ;) | 11:14 |
ogra | \sh, we had 200 BOFs in 6 days with about 40 ppl.... it was hard work.... | 11:15 |
ogra | 10-12h schedule every day | 11:15 |
\sh | ogra: yeah, but working in a swimmingpool is much better than doing +80h in 2 weeks overtime work | 11:15 |
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ogra | that was only possible on the first day..... | 11:16 |
ogra | i didnt see the pool afterwards | 11:16 |
\sh | ogra: just joking, but in the last 3 weeks I did my normal 40hour week + add 12 hours per day ... i had in one week 5 nightshifts without ok from guenther | 11:17 |
\sh | but forced by guenther | 11:17 |
ogra | heh | 11:17 |
ogra | \sh, there are better jobs out there | 11:18 |
\sh | ogra: yeah...php devel in london for 37k pounds/yeah | 11:18 |
\sh | -h+r | 11:18 |
ogra | go on :) | 11:18 |
\sh | ogra: too less money ;) | 11:18 |
ogra | bah... | 11:19 |
\sh | ogra: have to pay income taxes in uk and social taxes in germany == the money as here :) | 11:19 |
ogra | not for the first 6 months | 11:19 |
\sh | ogra: not for the last 6 months :) | 11:19 |
\sh | ogra: and u have to think about the prices...double the price e.g. for cigarettes...the pubs are only opened until 11 | 11:20 |
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\sh | nono...:) | 11:20 |
\sh | ogra: but if you have time..review my bugfix packages ;) | 11:21 |
dholbach | reviewers! reviewers! reviewers! :-) | 11:22 |
herve | yes? | 11:22 |
herve | who's calling me? :-) | 11:22 |
dholbach | hahaha :-) | 11:23 |
Nafallo | lol | 11:23 |
\sh | actually | 11:23 |
\sh | dholbach...when r u visiting ogra again? tell me :) u can buy some nice "hansa tin beer" I'm need something to taste from my hometown ;) | 11:24 |
\sh | -'m | 11:24 |
\sh | oh audio problems...br | 11:25 |
\sh | b | 11:25 |
dholbach | hansa tin beer? | 11:26 |
hunger | Any chance of getting a new qemu deb anytime soon? | 11:26 |
dholbach | can't you get that anywhere apart from blankenheim? | 11:27 |
ogra | isnt that the aldi brand ? | 11:28 |
hunger | Hmmm... debian still has the old one, too. | 11:28 |
dholbach | hunger: would you like to package it? :-) | 11:28 |
\sh | ogra: no :) | 11:28 |
hunger | dholbach: Nope, I would like to use it;-) | 11:28 |
\sh | dholbach: hansa beer :) | 11:28 |
ogra | in tin cans | 11:28 |
\sh | but hansa beer in tins ;) | 11:28 |
dholbach | hunger: would you file a wishlist bug for it on malone? | 11:28 |
\sh | ogra: ok :) tin cans ;) but we were naming it: "Blech Bier" | 11:29 |
hunger | dholbach: I am stupid wrt. packages. | 11:29 |
dholbach | hunger: that's how we all started | 11:29 |
\sh | ogra: aldi beer == karlsberg quell ;) | 11:29 |
ogra | ah, yes | 11:29 |
\sh | ogra: old beer from dortmund == hansa :) | 11:29 |
hunger | dholbach: Oh, believe mee, I tried... and failed horribly:-) | 11:29 |
herve | I feel odd about buying beers from aldi :-) | 11:29 |
ogra | me too | 11:30 |
\sh | herve: get wife and child, and u will drink everything u get ;-) | 11:30 |
dholbach | hunger: what does the new version have apart from a nicer version number? | 11:30 |
ogra | for the two current bottles in my fridge i flew 16000km ;) | 11:30 |
\sh | ogra: fosters u can buy here as well ;) | 11:30 |
hunger | dholbach: Full x86_64 and MMX/SSE/SSE2 emulation support for one thing. | 11:30 |
ogra | 2 times ;) | 11:31 |
hunger | dholbach: Good to test x86 | 11:31 |
ogra | \sh, fosters isnt australian | 11:31 |
hunger | _64 stuff on my 32 bit box. | 11:31 |
dholbach | \sh: fosters doesnt exist | 11:31 |
ogra | \sh, it just pretends to | 11:31 |
dholbach | hunger: so would you file a wishlist bug for it? | 11:31 |
\sh | what was the name of this wannabe australien beer? | 11:31 |
hunger | dholbach: I am. | 11:31 |
dholbach | hunger: else it will be lost in the conversation | 11:31 |
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ogra | \sh, thats a real ausssie beer: http://www.surf4wine.co.uk/Victoria_Bitter.html | 11:33 |
\sh | ah..:) | 11:33 |
dholbach | hunger: would you please add ideas on malone to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaloneUniverseWishList ? | 11:34 |
ogra | even better: http://www.australianbeers.com/beers/coopers_sparkling_ale/coopers_sparkling_ale.htm | 11:34 |
\sh | but fosters has the more beautifull grid girl ;) | 11:34 |
herve | haggai, those geeks and their beer... :-) | 11:34 |
\sh | well...in the moment I can't even buy normal drinks...as I saw now on my account | 11:40 |
\sh | 2051 are payed for this month | 11:40 |
\sh | and my account is empty :( | 11:40 |
\sh | shit | 11:40 |
ogra | pheew | 11:41 |
ogra | you had so much less then me ? | 11:41 |
\sh | ogra: normally i get 1900 | 11:41 |
\sh | 2051 was with nightwork, on duty calls etc. | 11:41 |
\sh | ogra: and I'm tarif worker :( | 11:41 |
ogra | \sh, i was too | 11:41 |
\sh | ogra: but the problem is: I don't have a dispo | 11:41 |
\sh | ogra: and I won't get one | 11:42 |
ogra | me neither..... | 11:42 |
\sh | ogra: so my account is now 0,0 | 11:42 |
ogra | claim my job, i bet its still free | 11:42 |
\sh | ogra: forget it | 11:42 |
ogra | you'll earn a good bunch more... | 11:42 |
\sh | ogra: ralf hilke and someone called "Kueppers" were fired last week | 11:42 |
ogra | nah | 11:42 |
\sh | ogra: yes | 11:42 |
ogra | alex kuepper ?? | 11:43 |
\sh | ogra: and because of the desaster of the 1st April it looks like that someone from marketing will be fired, too | 11:43 |
\sh | ogra: i don't know this guy, frank told us only "hilke and kuepper" | 11:43 |
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ogra | alex was one of the last sane managers... | 11:45 |
ajmitch_ | what's new, people? | 11:46 |
ogra | a mono on amd64 that actually compiles ? | 11:46 |
ajmitch_ | ogra: already knew about that - it compiled while we were at UDU :) | 11:47 |
ogra | not on the buildd's | 11:47 |
ajmitch_ | it just took a couple of extra tries to get the packaging right | 11:47 |
ajmitch_ | yes, on the buildd's | 11:47 |
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ogra | it didnt with the last uploads... until tonight | 11:47 |
ajmitch_ | that's because it was rebroken, and then refixed | 11:48 |
ogra | ah... | 11:48 |
ajmitch_ | in a sense | 11:48 |
ogra | ok, so no news then.... | 11:48 |
ajmitch_ | yes, it is news | 11:48 |
ajmitch_ | since the first stage of the mono bootstrap is done | 11:48 |
ajmitch_ | these packages should no longer have these issues | 11:48 |
=== ogra already has a running tomboy and gnome-sharp packages locally ;) | ||
ajmitch_ | tseng did good work getting them there | 11:49 |
ogra | yep | 11:49 |
=== ajmitch_ wants to tryout tomboy & muine | ||
ogra | muine (at least from the available source package) crashes after some seconds here | 11:50 |
ajmitch_ | possibly an amd64 bug - does mono crash or just the app? | 11:50 |
ogra | just the app | 11:50 |
hunger | dholbach: OK, added all the annoyances I found with malone to that wiki page you suggested. | 11:51 |
dholbach | hunger: rocking :-) | 11:51 |
herve | I thought you would have opened bugs in malone :)- | 11:51 |
ajmitch_ | ogra, dholbach: heard that sid auto-syncs will stop for awhile real soon now | 11:51 |
ajmitch_ | so that the c++ transition can take place | 11:51 |
hunger | herve: IIRC that is not possible. | 11:51 |
\sh | ajmitch_: oho | 11:51 |
ogra | hey... muine works ! | 11:51 |
ogra | YAY | 11:52 |
hunger | dholbach: Is there a page for the other bugtracker as well? ;-) | 11:52 |
ajmitch_ | ogra: great :) | 11:52 |
\sh | ajmitch_: and how they want to resolve the broken kde? right now, kde.org is blacklisting gcc4 | 11:52 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: c++ transition is going ahead anyway, afaik | 11:52 |
ogra | must have been the latest update.... so it was mono that crashed ajmitch_ | 11:52 |
ajmitch_ | ogra: last update was 1.1.6->1.1.7 | 11:53 |
ogra | yep | 11:53 |
ogra | exactly | 11:53 |
ajmitch_ | we've got a *lot* of universe packages to merge changes with - want me to put together a list? | 11:53 |
\sh | ajmitch_: yeah true, but I don't think we will get a working g++-4.x compiled kde in the next 6 months ;) | 11:53 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: kde should fix their code then ;) | 11:53 |
ogra | \sh, we have to | 11:53 |
ogra | \sh, in less then 3 months | 11:53 |
\sh | ajmitch_: hehe...:) sure...but read the mailings ;) | 11:54 |
\sh | ogra: they're blocking ;) looks like :) | 11:54 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: g++ will be switched to 4.0 in less than a week, I think | 11:54 |
ogra | \sh, so kubuntu will have to fix it | 11:54 |
\sh | ogra: u mean jonathan and andreas can do the work of kde ? ,-) | 11:54 |
ajmitch_ | fedora FC4 uses g++ 4.0, so what will they do? | 11:54 |
\sh | ajmitch_: fedora == redhat == gnome focused | 11:54 |
ogra | \sh, tey already did ;) | 11:55 |
ajmitch_ | fedora also has some kde stuff | 11:55 |
hunger | ajmitch_: Redhat has a history of delivering brokenish c++ compilers. | 11:55 |
ogra | \sh, and you will hopefully be motu before freeze to help them out ;) | 11:55 |
\sh | ajmitch_: yeah...but i think they have two compilers on their distri | 11:55 |
=== hunger remembers the gcc 2.96 horrors... | ||
\sh | ogra: your word in gods ear ;) | 11:56 |
ajmitch_ | we've got more than enough work to keep us busy in the next few weeks :) | 11:56 |
\sh | hunger: that was 2000 | 11:56 |
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ajmitch_ | hey chmj | 11:57 |
chmj | hello ajmitch_ | 11:57 |
ogra | ajmitch_, go ahead :) | 11:57 |
\sh | ajmitch_: review my packages and upload them after reviewing ,-I) | 11:57 |
hunger | \sh: Yeap, but it was still horror. | 11:57 |
\sh | hunger: well...at this time I was working for this company :) and I knew how pissed bero was at this time | 11:57 |
ajmitch_ | ogra: I'll write up this merge comparison tool tomorrow, that'll get us a list of versions for sid & breezy | 11:57 |
ogra | great | 11:58 |
hunger | \sh: And they did fumble it a couple of times afterwards... not that thouroughly as back then, but they did. | 11:58 |
\sh | hunger: because of gcc-2.96 and stuff, bero had to go from redhat (I think it was 2001 or 2002) cause he opened his mouth and was complaining | 11:59 |
\sh | and I had to go because I pissed off our female marketing manager ;) | 12:00 |
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=== ajmitch_ loves the total lack of docs for python-apt :) | ||
dholbach | ajmitch_: ask mvo - docs enough | 12:06 |
dholbach | ajmitch_: the example code is quite good, i found | 12:07 |
ajmitch_ | dholbach: yeah, I'll talk to him when I see him around | 12:07 |
dholbach | ajmitch_: he is around :-) | 12:07 |
ajmitch_ | he went offline about 10min ago | 12:08 |
ajmitch_ | ah, he reconnected :) | 12:08 |
dholbach | :-) | 12:08 |
dholbach | Unfrgiven: are you there? | 12:10 |
\sh | ajmitch_: what informations do u need about python-apt? | 12:10 |
tseng | hm whats this | 12:10 |
ajmitch_ | \sh: just talking to mvo now :) | 12:11 |
\sh | ajmitch_: oh...let me talk with him too ;) | 12:11 |
tseng | stuff doesnt seem to be copying from buildd to archive? | 12:11 |
ajmitch_ | so many users using breezy already... | 12:13 |
chmj | ajmitch_, I just removed it, its super broken | 12:13 |
tseng | hiya chmj | 12:13 |
chmj | hiya tseng | 12:14 |
\sh | ajmitch_: http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/12-More-from-Pynaptiq.html | 12:14 |
ajmitch_ | chmj: breezy is? | 12:14 |
\sh | need a coffee and some nicotine | 12:14 |
ajmitch_ | thanks \sh | 12:14 |
chmj | ajmitch_, yes | 12:14 |
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\sh | ajmitch_: if u need the source of it, i can send it to you...or i will apply for a berlios project | 12:33 |
Mithrandir | tseng: if you need access to an amd64 box, tell me. :) | 12:34 |
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ogra | hmm, tseng muine is now running too thanks to the 1.1.7 update, but f-spot looks like its going to be a pita | 12:36 |
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dholbach | see you later | 12:51 |
ivoks | hi | 12:52 |
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\sh | ok..added my bugfix packages to motutoreview | 01:20 |
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Nafallo | hi all | 01:44 |
tseng|work | any bets on how long before someone backports mono 1.1.7? | 01:44 |
ogra | hi Nafallo | 01:44 |
tseng|work | hi :P | 01:44 |
ajmitch_ | tseng|work: < 24 hours | 01:45 |
ajmitch_ | they can't live without it | 01:45 |
tseng|work | ./universe/binary-i386/mono-mcs_1.1.6-2~5.04ubp1_all.deb | 01:46 |
tseng|work | what the hell? | 01:46 |
ogra | i just tried that weird packaged beagle source pkg.... | 01:46 |
ogra | argh | 01:46 |
tseng|work | ogra arch | 01:46 |
tseng|work | use jeffs | 01:46 |
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tseng|work | i dont think i uploaded mine | 01:46 |
ogra | from p.u.c ? | 01:46 |
Nafallo | Storm is fine, he got analgesic. | 01:46 |
tseng|work | yes | 01:46 |
tseng|work | just uupdate it | 01:46 |
ajmitch_ | tseng|work: they backported 1.1.6 from experimental | 01:47 |
ogra | ok, i'll try | 01:47 |
Nafallo | he's ordered to be in the cage for one week though. | 01:47 |
tseng|work | ajmitch_: i know | 01:47 |
ajmitch_ | crackful | 01:47 |
tseng|work | retarded++ | 01:47 |
tseng|work | at least its meebeys stuff | 01:47 |
tseng|work | and not one of the other ones | 01:47 |
tseng|work | #*** PyMusique supposedly needs additional packages?? | 01:48 |
tseng|work | does this guy have any idea what he's doing | 01:48 |
Amaranth | What about PyMusique? | 01:48 |
tseng|work | someone tried to backport it and has nfc what build-deps are I guess | 01:49 |
Amaranth | Please tell me someone isn't trying to get it into ubuntu. | 01:49 |
tseng|work | oh, someone is | 01:49 |
Amaranth | Can I decline? :) | 01:49 |
tseng|work | uh, i can decline just based on past experience with the guy | 01:50 |
Amaranth | Well, I meant as the upstream developer. | 01:50 |
tseng|work | sure | 01:51 |
tseng|work | i dont think this guy is even clueful enough to put it on motutodo or newpackages | 01:51 |
tseng|work | so youre pretty safe | 01:51 |
Amaranth | It a little too risky for others to distribute it right now, I think. | 01:52 |
ogra | tseng|work, i told him to put it where it is... | 01:52 |
ajmitch_ | Amaranth: considered unclean at the moment? | 01:52 |
Amaranth | If 'unclean' means you might get sued, yes. | 01:52 |
tseng|work | ajmitch_: dude apple has a hardon for IP legislation | 01:52 |
ajmitch_ | heh | 01:52 |
tseng|work | even though they are legally barred from the music business | 01:53 |
Amaranth | That's a trademark thing though. | 01:53 |
tseng|work | (i think they bought their way out of that, though) | 01:53 |
Amaranth | Well, and a contract they signed after System 7. | 01:53 |
mjr | yeah, I too think that they paid Apple Records enough to do music business | 01:53 |
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Amaranth | herve: On a live cd? | 01:54 |
herve | yes, the last xfs filesystem I have left just exploded | 01:55 |
Amaranth | o_O | 01:55 |
Treenaks | Amaranth: sashimi sound? | 01:55 |
ivoks | ? | 01:55 |
ivoks | xfs works for me for years... | 01:55 |
ogra | herve, i have never seen a xf you couldnt fix | 01:56 |
ogra | xfs even | 01:56 |
Amaranth | Treenaks: sosumi, the start up sound in System 7 | 01:56 |
Amaranth | Treenaks: say it out loud :) | 01:56 |
Treenaks | Amaranth: oh, not the piece of sushi ;) | 01:56 |
herve | ogra, tell that to my laptop with a corrupted fs just because I ran out of battery | 01:56 |
herve | and this one exploded because I have no space left | 01:56 |
ogra | herve, look at xfsrepair | 01:56 |
ogra | it has options for such cases | 01:56 |
herve | ogra, hence the live cd :-) | 01:57 |
herve | another thing I couldn't stand | 01:57 |
herve | lost files are deleted | 01:57 |
=== ajmitch_ still sticks with ext3 | ||
herve | not copied to some lost+found dir for postmortem backup | 01:57 |
Amaranth | it doesn't dump them in /lost+found? | 01:57 |
Amaranth | that's...lame | 01:57 |
ogra | if there is no space left to write to.... *shrug* | 02:00 |
herve | yeah... xfs_repair pieces me off... | 02:03 |
Nafallo | btw, lvm2 can't resize reiser on-the-fly? | 02:03 |
Nafallo | I know lvm could :-P | 02:04 |
ogra | who wants reiser anyway | 02:04 |
herve | ho don't tell me about reiser! | 02:04 |
herve | it was worse :-) | 02:04 |
ogra | yep | 02:04 |
Nafallo | ehm, worksforme(tm) ;-) | 02:05 |
herve | looks like I'll install two hoary this weekend... | 02:06 |
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herve | I never had problems with ext3 when I think about it | 02:08 |
Nafallo | hmm | 02:08 |
ogra | herve, http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=45 | 02:08 |
Nafallo | I've thrown all the "must save" stuff on reiser on my server :-P | 02:08 |
ogra | an old odd hack to prevent you from running out of diskspace | 02:09 |
herve | ogra, thanks but too late :-) | 02:09 |
ogra | for the next time ;) | 02:09 |
herve | anyway, it's abnormal a system explodes when ran out of disk space | 02:10 |
herve | gnome wouldn't crash and disappear step by step with ext3 | 02:10 |
ogra | its normal for a system, but not for a filesystem... | 02:10 |
ogra | true... | 02:10 |
herve | I already seen my linux giving me more space than available | 02:10 |
herve | I cleaned a bit a everything was fine | 02:11 |
Treenaks | herve: sparse files? | 02:11 |
herve | Treenaks, I don't remember, it was years ago | 02:12 |
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\sh | grmpf | 02:26 |
ajmitch_ | great, I've just got to get the version comparison done & I can get a wiki page out of this ;) | 02:40 |
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\sh | ajmitch_: python-apt? | 02:47 |
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dholbach | hunger: the malone guys will be grateful for your ideas | 02:59 |
hunger | dholbach: Are you sure? | 03:00 |
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hunger | dholbach: I'd be pissed if some stupid "Besserwisser" would whine about my app;-) | 03:00 |
dholbach | hunger: yes... they really need to sort out some things before it goes live for main | 03:01 |
dholbach | we'll have a meeting as soon as i contacted them | 03:01 |
thom | hunger: 15 is pointless, the whole point of malone is so everyone can use it | 03:02 |
\sh | hmmm...when is the next council meeting? | 03:02 |
hunger | thom: Is it? I have to report in either the bugzilla or malone. | 03:03 |
thom | hunger: 14:01 < dholbach> hunger: yes... they really need to sort out some things before it goes live for main | 03:03 |
hunger | thom: With debian I just did "reportbug package"... with ubuntu I have to keep track of trackers;-) | 03:04 |
dholbach | \sh: next week, can't quite remember if it was tuesday or thursday | 03:04 |
ogra | hunger, see the udu wiki | 03:04 |
hunger | thom: Right. I didn't know that when I wrote it this morning. | 03:04 |
ogra | hunger, there was a BOF in udu about that | 03:05 |
hunger | ogra: What is udu? | 03:05 |
\sh | Ubuntu Down Under | 03:05 |
dholbach | ubuntu down under | 03:05 |
ogra | ubuntu down under | 03:05 |
dholbach | the conference | 03:05 |
\sh | hehe | 03:05 |
Nafallo | echo! | 03:05 |
Nafallo | :-P | 03:05 |
\sh | ogra: i talked to mvo :) | 03:06 |
ogra | great | 03:06 |
=== hunger finds the ubuntu web-sites really confusing! | ||
\sh | ogra: i have now his working repos of python-apt and can work on it :) | 03:06 |
dholbach | hunger: they unfortunately are | 03:06 |
ogra | \sh, even greater | 03:06 |
ivoks | jesus... | 03:06 |
hunger | So how is a user supposed to know that he has to check udu wiki (wherever that is)? | 03:06 |
\sh | hunger: one word, one action: ask :) | 03:07 |
Nafallo | udu.wiki.ubuntu.com if I remember correctly | 03:07 |
ogra | http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/FrontPage | 03:07 |
hunger | \sh: Well, my parents i.e. would never ask... they would just whine till I replaced ubuntu with something else. | 03:08 |
\sh | and listen to the channel carefully, make the names of the cracks red blinking and read the backlogs :) information gathering ;) | 03:08 |
\sh | hunger: oh well, yes, I don't have parents, it's an advantage :) | 03:08 |
thom | hunger: a user doesn't; the point is *you* are not a typical user, we expect you to be able to gather information correctly by dint of being in the irc channels that you are | 03:08 |
dholbach | but we should have more visibility of our plans | 03:09 |
hunger | \sh: That is reasonable for a developer centric distribution... but that is not really the focus of ubuntu, is it? | 03:09 |
dholbach | so i sort of agree with hunger, although it's no easy task | 03:09 |
\sh | hunger: I don't think the typical user should read dev related stuff....he wants something else.and this is on wiki.ubuntu.com | 03:09 |
dholbach | *throwing another buzzword in* TheFridge will solve all of our problems ;-) | 03:10 |
hunger | thom: Well, actually I am in the IRC channels to find out the stuff I couldn't find on the websites:-) | 03:10 |
ogra | yeah, the fridge | 03:11 |
thom | dholbach: *giggle* | 03:11 |
dholbach | i mean: what's left, when we have launchpad and thefridge? | 03:11 |
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\sh | hunger: well...there r many ways to get the information u want...1. MLs 2. google 3. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage/searchwiki?expr=UdU&submit=Search 4. IRC :) | 03:12 |
thom | TWD | 03:12 |
thom | we already have TRLS, MPBS should be here soon... | 03:13 |
hunger | \sh: 3 does not really work well... | 03:13 |
dholbach | not to forget HCT | 03:13 |
\sh | hunger: of course :) | 03:13 |
\sh | hunger: the 3 link in the resultlist is UbuntuDownUnder ;) | 03:13 |
\sh | and in this wiki article, there is a link to udu.wiki... | 03:14 |
\sh | oh I forgot planet.ubuntu.com | 03:14 |
hunger | \sh: You must have a different search than I do then! | 03:14 |
\sh | hunger: "Wiki Search" | 03:15 |
\sh | hunger: not "search" | 03:15 |
hunger | \sh: AAAAHHHHHH! | 03:15 |
\sh | hunger: and most of the time, our channel bot is working quite well ;) | 03:16 |
\sh | !ogra ubuntu binary drivers | 03:16 |
dholbach | Using fallback bot: "You're probably looking for: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats" | 03:17 |
hunger | \sh: Who would have thought that there are several different searches on the ubuntu wiki? And that you have the more obscure one:-) | 03:17 |
\sh | hehe | 03:17 |
\sh | hunger: well...wiki == wiki search...but anyways...I'm used to it :) | 03:18 |
hunger | \sh: Thanks for that tip! | 03:18 |
\sh | dholbach: ;) | 03:18 |
herve | fridges? have I been absent for that long! | 03:19 |
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\sh | devels brain is not working like normal ones...most of the time we have to think different...to have a good communication between e.g. dev and sales or dev and marketing ;) | 03:20 |
\sh | herve: u didn't here about TheFridge? | 03:20 |
\sh | -here+hear | 03:20 |
dholbach | bbl | 03:21 |
\sh | brb | 03:22 |
herve | \sh, no, please light my candle :-) | 03:25 |
thom | herve: udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/TheFridge | 03:26 |
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herve | thom, thanks | 03:29 |
tseng|work | hm im not sure how much we want to spread that around | 03:48 |
tseng|work | alot of people at the bof had doubts | 03:49 |
\sh | tseng: why? | 03:56 |
\sh | the idea behind it is quite good...but the problem is more: who is operating it, who will write the content etc. | 03:57 |
ogra | tseng|work, beagle 0.0.7 didnt work....segfaults on Util.dll, 0.0.9 compiles, but the daemon crashes from time to time | 03:58 |
\sh | we wanted to this for redhat, a user concentrated portal, but it never saw the light of the world, cause nobody wanted to take care about it | 03:58 |
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\sh | oh sh*t...I'm getting old...forgot some words in the sentence | 03:59 |
tseng|work | ogra did you install all the deps | 04:01 |
ogra | yep | 04:01 |
tseng|work | libevolution-cil libgmime-cil libgsf-cil | 04:01 |
tseng|work | hrm | 04:02 |
ogra | yep | 04:02 |
tseng|work | whats it crash on | 04:02 |
tseng|work | you can do beagle --fg --debug | 04:02 |
tseng|work | beagled rather | 04:02 |
ogra | yep, wait, just got it running via best now... | 04:02 |
\sh | smoke | 04:02 |
ogra | heh, i cant stop the running beagled | 04:03 |
Mithrandir | beagle on the run! | 04:04 |
Mithrandir | :) | 04:04 |
ogra | yeah | 04:04 |
ogra | hmm, cant stop the daemon, but it semms to run stable now... weird | 04:04 |
tseng|work | well | 04:04 |
tseng|work | mono apps dont show up as "beagled" | 04:05 |
ogra | heh | 04:05 |
tseng|work | its mono | 04:05 |
tseng|work | gotta kill the pid | 04:05 |
ogra | there is a wrapper script | 04:05 |
herve | killall? rampage? slaughter? | 04:05 |
tseng|work | killall++ | 04:06 |
ogra | hmm, but it runns just fine .... | 04:06 |
tseng|work | k | 04:06 |
ogra | dont like to be this nasty to it | 04:06 |
tseng|work | good | 04:06 |
tseng|work | we like running beagles | 04:06 |
ogra | yeah | 04:06 |
ogra | argl | 04:07 |
ogra | the script writes the pid in /var/run.... | 04:07 |
tseng|work | oh nice | 04:07 |
ogra | there was a crash before, now the pid doesnt match... | 04:07 |
ogra | ok, killed and restarted... lets see | 04:08 |
tseng|work | did you get 1.1.7? | 04:09 |
tseng|work | this morning it didnt seem like Packages.gz was getting updated | 04:09 |
ogra | got it this morning | 04:09 |
tseng|work | awesome | 04:09 |
tseng|work | its so much faster | 04:09 |
ogra | ouch... best froze this time | 04:10 |
ogra | hm, works fie if i start beagled through best | 04:11 |
ogra | hmm, how long is this supposed to index ? it seems its still indexing... | 04:12 |
ogra | i can see more results after every other search | 04:13 |
tseng|work | it indexes for a long long time | 04:13 |
tseng|work | it does your whole ~ | 04:13 |
tseng|work | but it throttles | 04:13 |
ogra | hmmkay... | 04:14 |
tseng|work | so if you go idle or turn on a screensaver it is more aggressive | 04:14 |
tseng|work | if you are using it it doesnt thrash your disk/cpu | 04:14 |
ogra | i'm playing with beagled since some hours | 04:14 |
ogra | so i'd expect it to end once :) | 04:15 |
tseng|work | ive never seen it doing nothing | 04:15 |
tseng|work | its always finding new mail or something | 04:15 |
tseng|work | shrug | 04:15 |
ogra | yep, looks like | 04:15 |
ogra | i'll just eave it alone and wait a while | 04:16 |
tseng|work | and blogs | 04:16 |
tseng|work | it reads all my feeds from blam | 04:16 |
ogra | ah, blam... | 04:16 |
ogra | didnt try it yet | 04:16 |
tseng|work | is any of that stuff installable from the archive yet? | 04:17 |
ogra | only f-spot.... but thats not even trying to compile...braks very early | 04:17 |
ogra | there are source pkg's | 04:17 |
tseng|work | i guess gtk-sharp didnt build on amd yet | 04:17 |
ogra | i built it locally | 04:17 |
tseng|work | https://www.jahc.net/work/discuss/index.cgi | 04:17 |
tseng|work | im not sure what happened there | 04:17 |
tseng|work | maybe the log just got lost again | 04:18 |
ogra | it asks for user/pw | 04:18 |
tseng|work | erm sorry | 04:18 |
tseng|work | thats my cgi-irc script | 04:19 |
tseng|work | meant to be the buildLog dir | 04:19 |
tseng|work | with missing amd64 log | 04:19 |
ogra | oh | 04:19 |
tseng|work | firefox puts that stupid url in every tab | 04:19 |
\sh | so...ppls....going home now...cu later | 04:41 |
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Nafallo | hmm | 04:48 |
Nafallo | do people see italic test better than plain normal? :-) | 04:48 |
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GheRivero | res | 05:21 |
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koke | hey, does anyone know why sqlobject was not transitioned?? | 06:18 |
koke | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/sqlobject/ | 06:18 |
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koke | hey, I have my first package for breezy :) | 06:41 |
dholbach | ROCK! :-) | 06:41 |
koke | sqlobject was not pytransitioned :( | 06:42 |
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bddebian | Hi | 06:43 |
koke | I still need an uploader :) | 06:43 |
koke | http://amedias.org/~koke/debian/breezy/ | 06:43 |
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Nafallo | hehe | 06:47 |
Nafallo | hmm | 06:53 |
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Nafallo | imagine pbuilder food recipe | 06:53 |
Nafallo | :-) | 06:53 |
bddebian | Oh no, I think there needs to be an emacs-pbuilder | 06:54 |
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abelli | buona sera | 07:15 |
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zul | jeu | 07:54 |
zul | doh..hey | 07:55 |
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zul | i type too fast sometimes | 07:56 |
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Nafallo | yay! I must have parse error :-P | 07:57 |
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tseng|work | hi | 08:19 |
ivoks | hi | 08:19 |
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tseng|work | hm so the mono stuff in breezy is actually further along that i thought | 09:40 |
tseng|work | i can install most of the apps | 09:40 |
tseng|work | and run | 09:41 |
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herve | see you all | 10:14 |
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dholbach | byeeeeeeee | 10:34 |
tritium | bye dholbach :) | 10:35 |
tseng | hi | 10:35 |
Nafallo | tseng: hi :-) | 10:35 |
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