=== mert38 [~KELEBEK@85.97.139.30] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:29] selam millett === mert38 [~KELEBEK@85.97.139.30] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:34] seb is my hero [12:35] oh? [12:35] yes [12:35] he fixed gnomedb [12:35] why? [12:35] ah === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.134.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] tseng: you put your pictures up anywhere? [01:19] tseng.ath.cx/photos [01:19] ta [01:20] I misplaced my cable so I'm ripping you off. :) [01:20] huh? [01:20] cable to my camera [01:20] can't find it [01:20] i see [01:23] lamont: sorry, any chance of kicking gtk-sharp2-unstable_1.9.3-1ubuntu1 for gnomedb love [01:23] man, you got some great shots [01:24] sure did [01:24] http://tseng.ath.cx/photos/index.php?galerie=udu&snimek=14 [01:24] im a fan of that [01:24] yeah, thanks for making me 2x as huge as I already am. [01:24] FEE FI FO FUM ... [01:25] FEE FIE FOE FEE FIE FEE FOE [01:25] hah [01:25] i wish this one of lamont turned out better [01:26] with his homeland security approved pliers [01:26] http://tseng.ath.cx/photos/index.php?galerie=udu&snimek=19&exif_style=&show_thumbs= [01:26] tseng: from the comedy club last night.... that's Mike Tyson telling someone his phone mumber [01:26] with apologies to our non-english speaking audience [01:26] hah! [01:26] any other galleries? [01:27] tseng: I just gave back everything in universe that had 'libgda2-3' or 'libgnomedb' in it's log. [01:27] which included gtk-sharp [01:30] lamont: oh rock on. [01:30] still 2 steps ahead [01:30] whiprush: ive seen a few [01:30] um [01:30] jane and dilinger had some [01:30] ogra [01:31] k [01:31] hrm.. guess I should go get my camera and download my pics, eh? [01:31] I'll have a weeklong blogathon with them then [01:32] tseng: sigh... is mono bootstrappable on amd64 yet? [01:33] lamont: i know what part i missed merging now, should build properly with this upload === womble [~mpalmer@203-219-190-106.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] tseng: doesn't require any bootstrapping love from me? way cool! [01:34] lamont: nope, just me doing nasty things to make cli-common build [01:34] which is hopefully a one-time deal [01:35] we hope [01:35] it's such a small, insignificant change with that cli-common stuff [01:35] gar i feel like im back at udu [01:35] just enough to be annoying [01:35] network is that crap? [01:36] dhclient every 2 minutes [01:36] ah [01:40] did you see the muine made the tray icon a plugin? [01:40] im not sure if i want to install it in the package [01:41] if muine has an alarm plugin, I'll switch [01:41] it does [01:41] 2, actually [01:41] excellent [01:41] that's the main reason I use xmms still [01:41] oh man [01:41] welcome to 1998 [01:42] xmms is great, it Just Works almost 50% of the time [01:42] gtk-sharp_1.0.8-1ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED [01:42] there we go [01:43] rock on [01:43] and 2 is already up [01:43] um [01:43] so gecko and gtksourceview [01:43] dbust === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LBM [~lbm@messecenteraars.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:45] hi all! anyone else suffering from insomnia? ;-) [01:45] no, it's lunchtime here [01:49] ajmitch_: where is here? .au? :-) [01:53] ahh, .nz [02:04] dholbach: are you busy atm? [02:21] dholbach: anyway, my bug against gparted was a user-to-fast-to-read-bug. please read my comment and do what you think will suffice :-). [02:42] dholbach: ill have a look at why iptraf doesn build in breezy. it built fine in hoary. [02:42] dholbach: what did you think of my packaging in general? is it ok? have i made any major blunders? [02:42] dholbach: ive got some more gnome applets on the way === Unfrgiven [~ankur@cfshbr-c17-1.atm-8-35.CoffsHarbour.dft.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:54] wow! [02:54] mono 1.1.7 rocks. === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] ? [02:58] ajmitch_: io rewrite [02:58] ajmitch_: its so f'n fast [03:00] excellent [03:00] the official claim is beagled is 300% faster [03:00] i believe it now [03:01] worthwhile crack-of-the-day then [03:01] yes [03:02] next we need to get inotify working [03:02] gamin cvs should be alright now [03:02] do the patches still break everything when enabled? [03:02] whenever we get a new kernel [03:02] no [03:03] actually i could turn it on now [03:03] only one real bug [03:06] hm nevermind that, i need a newer patch [03:08] ajmitch_: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/m/mono/1.1.6-3ubuntu6/ [03:08] ajmitch_: we have arrived. [03:08] and it is good [03:08] so was that 10 uploads in total? [03:08] something like that [03:08] im a tool [03:08] sweet, sweet crack [03:09] so should i upload 1.1.7 [03:09] or another 1.1.6 [03:09] 1.1.7 [03:09] hell yeah [03:09] get that speed [03:18] I think you should hack the preinst script to put up a huge notice if any backport versions are installed [03:18] right.. [03:18] ill get right on that after updating this dpatch === jaldhar [~jaldhar@69.141.24.176] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] Subject: mono_1.1.7-0ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED [03:52] party time [03:56] that was nice & quick [03:56] only had to fix one patch === kurros [~wade@92-14.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:22] im done abusing the buildd for today [04:22] good night [04:32] nafallo: i won't tell publicly in what way i was busy... :-) [04:34] night tseng [04:52] night tseng [04:52] :( [04:53] still cant sleep === jaldhar [~jaldhar@69.141.24.176] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jaldhar [~jaldhar@pcp09354467pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hosting-Geek [~HG@200.48.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-184-135-68.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:32] good night [05:33] night dholbach [05:33] sleep well :) [05:33] thanks === desplesda [~desplesda@95.240.132.203.in-addr.wholesaledsl.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0203.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0203.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0203.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:00] morning [07:01] hi === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax6-114.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger_ [~hunger@p54A63341.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0761.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pjo [~chatzilla@i222-151-4-42.s02.a022.ap.plala.or.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:32] hello [07:32] i got problems [07:33] i do not know where to post my questions so pls advise where [07:33] questions on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27811.html === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:35] go to #ubuntu [07:39] ivoks thanks i asked about there but not yet gotten any advise [07:40] well, u can try here, but on this channel are motu developers, not users [07:40] ok [07:41] I followed what is written on the page and I got errors http://pastebin.com/280316 === Burgundavia [~corey@24.68.128.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:42] i would appreciate if you could examine the errors, ivoke [07:42] there isn't anything to follow on that page [07:42] It looks like scim is trying to open a small window for inputting Japanese but scim could not do that [07:42] this is kde [07:43] i don't use and don't know anything about it [07:43] "follow" i meant, i did what was written in there [07:43] ok [07:43] where? [07:43] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27811.html [07:43] there is only sh startkde.sh [07:44] ok, let's start from begining [07:44] go to #ubuntu, i'm over there [07:44] can I open channel withb you because #unbutu is very busy [07:45] ok === susus [~sz@p5089BC5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0761.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [~ogra@p5089BC5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === HiddenWolf [~hidden@136.134.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [~nafallo@h36n6c2o1027.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:42] morning all === encolpe [~encolpe@l08v-2-121.d2.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] bye all === kurros [~wade@92-14.26-24.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [~gervystar@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === encolpe [~encolpe@l08v-2-121.d2.club-internet.fr] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === ogra [~ogra@p5089BC5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] ogra: morning :-) [10:26] hi === koke [~koke@155.210.13.152] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:37] <\sh> morning [10:39] hi === hunger [~hunger@p54A63341.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [~herve@bar.oursours.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:51] morning [10:55] <\sh> *grmpf* === dholbach [~daniel@td9091d64.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:56] morning [10:56] dholbach: hi! saw my msg? [10:56] morning dholbach [10:57] Nafallo: yes, but i don't quite remember, what it was about *blush* [10:57] *backlog* [10:57] dholbach: hehe, my bug against gparted. [10:57] ah yes ok :-) [10:58] dholbach: I looked through the source and the message was there, but I would love it to be more visible. [10:58] dholbach: right now it's like Do you want to convert this partition? [10:58]
[10:58] upstream is in surinam atm, but i'll see if we can't change it [10:59] big? baaaah ! it's a deprecated element :-) [10:59] This will destroy all data!
[10:59] morning herve [10:59] herve: and and isn't there ;-) [11:00] dholbach: change it to red text and make the text bigger or something :-) [11:00] dholbach: or should I take a look at it again later? === Nafallo knows dholbach should do other things * [11:00] s/should/must [11:01] if you like to do it, don't stop yourself :-) [11:01] :-) === Nafallo thinks of changing "convert" to "destroy&create" ;-) [11:02] herve, is fine in pango ;) [11:03] <\sh> 19:00 UTC == 21:00 german time? [11:03] yep === \sh needs utc -> gmt + 2 converter *hehe* [11:04] utc == gmt ? [11:04] big is also fine on irc to describe stuff ;-) [11:04] use date -d '2005-05-06 19:00 UTC' [11:04] \sh, gworldclock ;) [11:04] <\sh> dholbach: why did u assign amu on the eric3 bug of malone? :) [11:04] date -u [11:04] <\sh> ogra: well...;) [11:04] dholbach: that's the other way around [11:05] Mithrandir: but he could verify :-) [11:05] damn I need faster downstream... [11:05] <\sh> i need a bigger harddrive for my laptop [11:05] my sync just finished first pass. after 6 bloody hours!! [11:05] <\sh> all the startrek seasons are not fitting :( [11:05] \sh: because it's some QT crack... i just wanted to have some assignees for bugs :-) [11:05] \sh: hehe, feel the same about charmed and dead zone ;-). [11:06] <\sh> dholbach: yeah...and I'm fixing this bug, creating dpatches against pyqt and pykde :) [11:06] \sh, get on with your MOTUness so we can bomb you with QT bugs ! [11:06] <\sh> ogra: hahaha...:) I'm waiting to become CoC member first :) [11:06] \sh: have fun :-) [11:06] <\sh> dholbach: it's done here locally...to test [11:07] that's how all patches start ;-) [11:07] <\sh> dholbach: and if upstream does not provide a new release on monday, I will release the patched working version === Nafallo have a haircut on saturday and a job interview the 17:th :-) [11:07] \sh, how about your packagemanager thingie ? did you et in contact with mvo already ? kubuntu looks for something like that it seems [11:08] ...and time at the vet in 2 hours :-/ [11:09] how's your rabbit ? better today ? [11:09] <\sh> dholbach: upstream said that he wants to provide a new release with patches applied [11:09] cool [11:11] ogra: yea a little, he actually uses the bad leg when standing, but he isn't when jumping around :-/. [11:11] ogra: he still tries to bit me when I get close to :-/. [11:11] s/bit/bite/ [11:12] but at least he stands again.... sounded bad yesterday.... [11:12] <\sh> ogra: not right now...but as i saw from a couple of postings of michael, he has also some problems with this thing [11:12] <\sh> ogra: and changing the kynaptic source is a fscking hell of work [11:12] <\sh> ogra: problem is, there is no documentation [11:13] \sh, i think they want to drop kynaptic for something better [11:13] ogra: he stood on three legs yesterday. he's layed down mostly. [11:13] \sh, SO WRITE SOMETHING AND GET FAMOUS MAN ! [11:13] right now he's sleeping... [11:14] <\sh> ogra: harhar [11:14] <\sh> ogra: u had a nice time down under, I had fscking stress and work here ;) [11:14] <\sh> ogra: i need a life ;) [11:15] \sh, we had 200 BOFs in 6 days with about 40 ppl.... it was hard work.... [11:15] 10-12h schedule every day [11:15] <\sh> ogra: yeah, but working in a swimmingpool is much better than doing +80h in 2 weeks overtime work === ozamosi [~ozamosi@h19n2c2o1031.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:16] that was only possible on the first day..... [11:16] i didnt see the pool afterwards [11:17] <\sh> ogra: just joking, but in the last 3 weeks I did my normal 40hour week + add 12 hours per day ... i had in one week 5 nightshifts without ok from guenther [11:17] <\sh> but forced by guenther [11:17] heh [11:18] \sh, there are better jobs out there [11:18] <\sh> ogra: yeah...php devel in london for 37k pounds/yeah [11:18] <\sh> -h+r [11:18] go on :) [11:18] <\sh> ogra: too less money ;) [11:19] bah... [11:19] <\sh> ogra: have to pay income taxes in uk and social taxes in germany == the money as here :) [11:19] not for the first 6 months [11:19] <\sh> ogra: not for the last 6 months :) [11:20] <\sh> ogra: and u have to think about the prices...double the price e.g. for cigarettes...the pubs are only opened until 11 === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:20] <\sh> nono...:) [11:21] <\sh> ogra: but if you have time..review my bugfix packages ;) [11:22] reviewers! reviewers! reviewers! :-) [11:22] yes? [11:22] who's calling me? :-) [11:23] hahaha :-) [11:23] lol [11:23] <\sh> actually [11:24] <\sh> dholbach...when r u visiting ogra again? tell me :) u can buy some nice "hansa tin beer" I'm need something to taste from my hometown ;) [11:24] <\sh> -'m [11:25] <\sh> oh audio problems...br [11:25] <\sh> b [11:26] hansa tin beer? [11:26] Any chance of getting a new qemu deb anytime soon? [11:27] can't you get that anywhere apart from blankenheim? [11:28] isnt that the aldi brand ? [11:28] Hmmm... debian still has the old one, too. [11:28] hunger: would you like to package it? :-) [11:28] <\sh> ogra: no :) [11:28] dholbach: Nope, I would like to use it;-) [11:28] <\sh> dholbach: hansa beer :) [11:28] in tin cans [11:28] <\sh> but hansa beer in tins ;) [11:28] hunger: would you file a wishlist bug for it on malone? [11:29] <\sh> ogra: ok :) tin cans ;) but we were naming it: "Blech Bier" [11:29] dholbach: I am stupid wrt. packages. [11:29] hunger: that's how we all started [11:29] <\sh> ogra: aldi beer == karlsberg quell ;) [11:29] ah, yes [11:29] <\sh> ogra: old beer from dortmund == hansa :) [11:29] dholbach: Oh, believe mee, I tried... and failed horribly:-) [11:29] I feel odd about buying beers from aldi :-) [11:30] me too [11:30] <\sh> herve: get wife and child, and u will drink everything u get ;-) [11:30] hunger: what does the new version have apart from a nicer version number? [11:30] for the two current bottles in my fridge i flew 16000km ;) [11:30] <\sh> ogra: fosters u can buy here as well ;) [11:30] dholbach: Full x86_64 and MMX/SSE/SSE2 emulation support for one thing. [11:31] 2 times ;) [11:31] dholbach: Good to test x86 [11:31] \sh, fosters isnt australian [11:31] _64 stuff on my 32 bit box. [11:31] \sh: fosters doesnt exist [11:31] \sh, it just pretends to [11:31] hunger: so would you file a wishlist bug for it? [11:31] <\sh> what was the name of this wannabe australien beer? [11:31] dholbach: I am. [11:31] hunger: else it will be lost in the conversation === hunger thinks malone is a really stupid bugtracker. [11:33] \sh, thats a real ausssie beer: http://www.surf4wine.co.uk/Victoria_Bitter.html [11:33] <\sh> ah..:) [11:34] hunger: would you please add ideas on malone to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaloneUniverseWishList ? [11:34] even better: http://www.australianbeers.com/beers/coopers_sparkling_ale/coopers_sparkling_ale.htm [11:34] <\sh> but fosters has the more beautifull grid girl ;) [11:34] haggai, those geeks and their beer... :-) [11:40] <\sh> well...in the moment I can't even buy normal drinks...as I saw now on my account [11:40] <\sh> 2051 are payed for this month [11:40] <\sh> and my account is empty :( [11:40] <\sh> shit [11:41] pheew [11:41] you had so much less then me ? [11:41] <\sh> ogra: normally i get 1900 [11:41] <\sh> 2051 was with nightwork, on duty calls etc. [11:41] <\sh> ogra: and I'm tarif worker :( [11:41] \sh, i was too [11:41] <\sh> ogra: but the problem is: I don't have a dispo [11:42] <\sh> ogra: and I won't get one [11:42] me neither..... [11:42] <\sh> ogra: so my account is now 0,0 [11:42] claim my job, i bet its still free [11:42] <\sh> ogra: forget it [11:42] you'll earn a good bunch more... [11:42] <\sh> ogra: ralf hilke and someone called "Kueppers" were fired last week [11:42] nah [11:42] <\sh> ogra: yes [11:43] alex kuepper ?? [11:43] <\sh> ogra: and because of the desaster of the 1st April it looks like that someone from marketing will be fired, too [11:43] <\sh> ogra: i don't know this guy, frank told us only "hilke and kuepper" === ajmitch_ returns [11:45] alex was one of the last sane managers... [11:46] what's new, people? [11:46] a mono on amd64 that actually compiles ? [11:47] ogra: already knew about that - it compiled while we were at UDU :) [11:47] not on the buildd's [11:47] it just took a couple of extra tries to get the packaging right [11:47] yes, on the buildd's === ajmitch_ uploaded 1.1.6_2ubuntu4 that built on amd64 [11:47] it didnt with the last uploads... until tonight [11:48] that's because it was rebroken, and then refixed [11:48] ah... [11:48] in a sense [11:48] ok, so no news then.... [11:48] yes, it is news [11:48] since the first stage of the mono bootstrap is done [11:48] these packages should no longer have these issues === ogra already has a running tomboy and gnome-sharp packages locally ;) [11:49] tseng did good work getting them there [11:49] yep === ajmitch_ wants to tryout tomboy & muine [11:50] muine (at least from the available source package) crashes after some seconds here [11:50] possibly an amd64 bug - does mono crash or just the app? [11:50] just the app [11:51] dholbach: OK, added all the annoyances I found with malone to that wiki page you suggested. [11:51] hunger: rocking :-) [11:51] I thought you would have opened bugs in malone :)- [11:51] ogra, dholbach: heard that sid auto-syncs will stop for awhile real soon now [11:51] so that the c++ transition can take place [11:51] herve: IIRC that is not possible. [11:51] <\sh> ajmitch_: oho [11:51] hey... muine works ! [11:52] YAY [11:52] dholbach: Is there a page for the other bugtracker as well? ;-) [11:52] ogra: great :) [11:52] <\sh> ajmitch_: and how they want to resolve the broken kde? right now, kde.org is blacklisting gcc4 [11:52] \sh: c++ transition is going ahead anyway, afaik [11:52] must have been the latest update.... so it was mono that crashed ajmitch_ [11:53] ogra: last update was 1.1.6->1.1.7 [11:53] yep [11:53] exactly [11:53] we've got a *lot* of universe packages to merge changes with - want me to put together a list? [11:53] <\sh> ajmitch_: yeah true, but I don't think we will get a working g++-4.x compiled kde in the next 6 months ;) [11:53] \sh: kde should fix their code then ;) [11:53] \sh, we have to [11:53] \sh, in less then 3 months [11:54] <\sh> ajmitch_: hehe...:) sure...but read the mailings ;) [11:54] <\sh> ogra: they're blocking ;) looks like :) [11:54] \sh: g++ will be switched to 4.0 in less than a week, I think [11:54] \sh, so kubuntu will have to fix it [11:54] <\sh> ogra: u mean jonathan and andreas can do the work of kde ? ,-) [11:54] fedora FC4 uses g++ 4.0, so what will they do? [11:54] <\sh> ajmitch_: fedora == redhat == gnome focused [11:55] \sh, tey already did ;) [11:55] fedora also has some kde stuff [11:55] ajmitch_: Redhat has a history of delivering brokenish c++ compilers. [11:55] \sh, and you will hopefully be motu before freeze to help them out ;) [11:55] <\sh> ajmitch_: yeah...but i think they have two compilers on their distri === hunger remembers the gcc 2.96 horrors... [11:56] <\sh> ogra: your word in gods ear ;) [11:56] we've got more than enough work to keep us busy in the next few weeks :) [11:56] <\sh> hunger: that was 2000 === chmj [~charles@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ wants to try & beat dholbach's upload record for hoary ;) [11:57] hey chmj [11:57] hello ajmitch_ [11:57] ajmitch_, go ahead :) [11:57] <\sh> ajmitch_: review my packages and upload them after reviewing ,-I) [11:57] \sh: Yeap, but it was still horror. [11:57] <\sh> hunger: well...at this time I was working for this company :) and I knew how pissed bero was at this time [11:57] ogra: I'll write up this merge comparison tool tomorrow, that'll get us a list of versions for sid & breezy [11:58] great [11:58] \sh: And they did fumble it a couple of times afterwards... not that thouroughly as back then, but they did. [11:59] <\sh> hunger: because of gcc-2.96 and stuff, bero had to go from redhat (I think it was 2001 or 2002) cause he opened his mouth and was complaining [12:00] <\sh> and I had to go because I pissed off our female marketing manager ;) === doko [~doko___@dsl-084-059-032-092.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ loves the total lack of docs for python-apt :) [12:06] ajmitch_: ask mvo - docs enough [12:07] ajmitch_: the example code is quite good, i found [12:07] dholbach: yeah, I'll talk to him when I see him around [12:07] ajmitch_: he is around :-) [12:08] he went offline about 10min ago [12:08] ah, he reconnected :) [12:08] :-) [12:10] Unfrgiven: are you there? [12:10] <\sh> ajmitch_: what informations do u need about python-apt? [12:10] hm whats this [12:11] \sh: just talking to mvo now :) [12:11] <\sh> ajmitch_: oh...let me talk with him too ;) [12:11] stuff doesnt seem to be copying from buildd to archive? [12:13] so many users using breezy already... [12:13] ajmitch_, I just removed it, its super broken [12:13] hiya chmj [12:14] hiya tseng [12:14] <\sh> ajmitch_: http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/12-More-from-Pynaptiq.html [12:14] chmj: breezy is? [12:14] <\sh> need a coffee and some nicotine [12:14] thanks \sh [12:14] ajmitch_, yes === p0m [wodann@203-173-20-85.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [~herzi@d043119.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbac1 [~daniel@td9091955.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax7-158.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:33] <\sh> ajmitch_: if u need the source of it, i can send it to you...or i will apply for a berlios project [12:34] tseng: if you need access to an amd64 box, tell me. :) === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax7-158.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:36] hmm, tseng muine is now running too thanks to the 1.1.7 update, but f-spot looks like its going to be a pita === ivoks [~ivoks@wall2.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chmj [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:51] see you later [12:52] hi === Danten [~danten@h246n6c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] <\sh> ok..added my bugfix packages to motutoreview === tseng|work [~ccc27a01@sls-eb20p9.dca2.superb.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Nafallo [~nafallo@nafallo.user] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:44] hi all [01:44] any bets on how long before someone backports mono 1.1.7? [01:44] hi Nafallo [01:44] hi :P [01:45] tseng|work: < 24 hours [01:45] they can't live without it [01:46] ./universe/binary-i386/mono-mcs_1.1.6-2~5.04ubp1_all.deb [01:46] what the hell? [01:46] i just tried that weird packaged beagle source pkg.... [01:46] argh [01:46] ogra arch [01:46] use jeffs === Seveas [~seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:46] i dont think i uploaded mine [01:46] from p.u.c ? [01:46] Storm is fine, he got analgesic. [01:46] yes [01:46] just uupdate it [01:47] tseng|work: they backported 1.1.6 from experimental [01:47] ok, i'll try [01:47] he's ordered to be in the cage for one week though. [01:47] ajmitch_: i know [01:47] crackful [01:47] retarded++ [01:47] at least its meebeys stuff [01:47] and not one of the other ones [01:48] #*** PyMusique supposedly needs additional packages?? [01:48] does this guy have any idea what he's doing [01:48] What about PyMusique? [01:49] someone tried to backport it and has nfc what build-deps are I guess [01:49] Please tell me someone isn't trying to get it into ubuntu. [01:49] oh, someone is [01:49] Can I decline? :) [01:50] uh, i can decline just based on past experience with the guy [01:50] Well, I meant as the upstream developer. [01:51] sure [01:51] i dont think this guy is even clueful enough to put it on motutodo or newpackages [01:51] so youre pretty safe [01:52] It a little too risky for others to distribute it right now, I think. [01:52] tseng|work, i told him to put it where it is... [01:52] Amaranth: considered unclean at the moment? [01:52] If 'unclean' means you might get sued, yes. [01:52] ajmitch_: dude apple has a hardon for IP legislation [01:52] heh [01:53] even though they are legally barred from the music business [01:53] That's a trademark thing though. [01:53] (i think they bought their way out of that, though) [01:53] Well, and a contract they signed after System 7. [01:53] yeah, I too think that they paid Apple Records enough to do music business === Amaranth wonders if anyone has a copy of the sosumi sound === ubuntu [~ubuntu@bar.oursours.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ubuntu is now known as herve [01:54] herve: On a live cd? [01:55] yes, the last xfs filesystem I have left just exploded [01:55] o_O [01:55] Amaranth: sashimi sound? [01:55] ? [01:55] xfs works for me for years... [01:56] herve, i have never seen a xf you couldnt fix [01:56] xfs even [01:56] Treenaks: sosumi, the start up sound in System 7 [01:56] Treenaks: say it out loud :) [01:56] Amaranth: oh, not the piece of sushi ;) [01:56] ogra, tell that to my laptop with a corrupted fs just because I ran out of battery [01:56] and this one exploded because I have no space left [01:56] herve, look at xfsrepair [01:56] it has options for such cases [01:57] ogra, hence the live cd :-) [01:57] another thing I couldn't stand [01:57] lost files are deleted === ajmitch_ still sticks with ext3 [01:57] not copied to some lost+found dir for postmortem backup [01:57] it doesn't dump them in /lost+found? [01:57] that's...lame [02:00] if there is no space left to write to.... *shrug* [02:03] yeah... xfs_repair pieces me off... [02:03] btw, lvm2 can't resize reiser on-the-fly? [02:04] I know lvm could :-P [02:04] who wants reiser anyway [02:04] ho don't tell me about reiser! [02:04] it was worse :-) [02:04] yep [02:05] ehm, worksforme(tm) ;-) [02:06] looks like I'll install two hoary this weekend... === ogra has seen too many people loosing their data with reiser already [02:08] I never had problems with ext3 when I think about it [02:08] hmm [02:08] herve, http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=45 [02:08] I've thrown all the "must save" stuff on reiser on my server :-P [02:09] an old odd hack to prevent you from running out of diskspace [02:09] ogra, thanks but too late :-) [02:09] for the next time ;) [02:10] anyway, it's abnormal a system explodes when ran out of disk space [02:10] gnome wouldn't crash and disappear step by step with ext3 [02:10] its normal for a system, but not for a filesystem... [02:10] true... [02:10] I already seen my linux giving me more space than available [02:11] I cleaned a bit a everything was fine [02:11] herve: sparse files? [02:12] Treenaks, I don't remember, it was years ago === ajmitch_ will be worried if he runs out of diskspace soon === rem_ [~rem@adsl-137-223-bs2.tiscali.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herve [~herve@bar.oursours.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] <\sh> grmpf [02:40] great, I've just got to get the version comparison done & I can get a wiki page out of this ;) === ajmitch_ heads off to sleep [02:47] <\sh> ajmitch_: python-apt? === siretart_ is now known as siretart [02:59] hunger: the malone guys will be grateful for your ideas [03:00] dholbach: Are you sure? === Danten [~danten@h244n11c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] dholbach: I'd be pissed if some stupid "Besserwisser" would whine about my app;-) [03:01] hunger: yes... they really need to sort out some things before it goes live for main [03:01] we'll have a meeting as soon as i contacted them [03:02] hunger: 15 is pointless, the whole point of malone is so everyone can use it [03:02] <\sh> hmmm...when is the next council meeting? [03:03] thom: Is it? I have to report in either the bugzilla or malone. [03:03] hunger: 14:01 < dholbach> hunger: yes... they really need to sort out some things before it goes live for main [03:04] thom: With debian I just did "reportbug package"... with ubuntu I have to keep track of trackers;-) [03:04] \sh: next week, can't quite remember if it was tuesday or thursday [03:04] hunger, see the udu wiki [03:04] thom: Right. I didn't know that when I wrote it this morning. [03:05] hunger, there was a BOF in udu about that [03:05] ogra: What is udu? [03:05] <\sh> Ubuntu Down Under [03:05] ubuntu down under [03:05] ubuntu down under [03:05] the conference [03:05] <\sh> hehe [03:05] echo! [03:05] :-P [03:06] <\sh> ogra: i talked to mvo :) [03:06] great === hunger finds the ubuntu web-sites really confusing! [03:06] <\sh> ogra: i have now his working repos of python-apt and can work on it :) [03:06] hunger: they unfortunately are [03:06] \sh, even greater [03:06] jesus... [03:06] So how is a user supposed to know that he has to check udu wiki (wherever that is)? [03:07] <\sh> hunger: one word, one action: ask :) [03:07] udu.wiki.ubuntu.com if I remember correctly [03:07] http://udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/FrontPage [03:08] \sh: Well, my parents i.e. would never ask... they would just whine till I replaced ubuntu with something else. [03:08] <\sh> and listen to the channel carefully, make the names of the cracks red blinking and read the backlogs :) information gathering ;) [03:08] <\sh> hunger: oh well, yes, I don't have parents, it's an advantage :) [03:08] hunger: a user doesn't; the point is *you* are not a typical user, we expect you to be able to gather information correctly by dint of being in the irc channels that you are [03:09] but we should have more visibility of our plans [03:09] \sh: That is reasonable for a developer centric distribution... but that is not really the focus of ubuntu, is it? [03:09] so i sort of agree with hunger, although it's no easy task [03:09] <\sh> hunger: I don't think the typical user should read dev related stuff....he wants something else.and this is on wiki.ubuntu.com [03:10] *throwing another buzzword in* TheFridge will solve all of our problems ;-) [03:10] thom: Well, actually I am in the IRC channels to find out the stuff I couldn't find on the websites:-) [03:11] yeah, the fridge [03:11] dholbach: *giggle* [03:11] i mean: what's left, when we have launchpad and thefridge? === hunger acusses everybody of being obstrusive! ;-) [03:12] <\sh> hunger: well...there r many ways to get the information u want...1. MLs 2. google 3. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrontPage/searchwiki?expr=UdU&submit=Search 4. IRC :) [03:12] TWD [03:13] we already have TRLS, MPBS should be here soon... [03:13] \sh: 3 does not really work well... [03:13] not to forget HCT [03:13] <\sh> hunger: of course :) [03:13] <\sh> hunger: the 3 link in the resultlist is UbuntuDownUnder ;) [03:14] <\sh> and in this wiki article, there is a link to udu.wiki... [03:14] <\sh> oh I forgot planet.ubuntu.com [03:14] \sh: You must have a different search than I do then! [03:15] <\sh> hunger: "Wiki Search" [03:15] <\sh> hunger: not "search" [03:15] \sh: AAAAHHHHHH! [03:16] <\sh> hunger: and most of the time, our channel bot is working quite well ;) [03:16] <\sh> !ogra ubuntu binary drivers [03:17] Using fallback bot: "You're probably looking for: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats" [03:17] \sh: Who would have thought that there are several different searches on the ubuntu wiki? And that you have the more obscure one:-) [03:17] <\sh> hehe [03:18] <\sh> hunger: well...wiki == wiki search...but anyways...I'm used to it :) [03:18] \sh: Thanks for that tip! [03:18] <\sh> dholbach: ;) [03:19] fridges? have I been absent for that long! === GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.92.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:20] <\sh> devels brain is not working like normal ones...most of the time we have to think different...to have a good communication between e.g. dev and sales or dev and marketing ;) [03:20] <\sh> herve: u didn't here about TheFridge? [03:20] <\sh> -here+hear [03:21] bbl [03:22] <\sh> brb [03:25] \sh, no, please light my candle :-) [03:26] herve: udu.wiki.ubuntu.com/TheFridge === GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.92.56] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Abandonando"] [03:29] thom, thanks [03:48] hm im not sure how much we want to spread that around [03:49] alot of people at the bof had doubts [03:56] <\sh> tseng: why? [03:57] <\sh> the idea behind it is quite good...but the problem is more: who is operating it, who will write the content etc. [03:58] tseng|work, beagle 0.0.7 didnt work....segfaults on Util.dll, 0.0.9 compiles, but the daemon crashes from time to time [03:58] <\sh> we wanted to this for redhat, a user concentrated portal, but it never saw the light of the world, cause nobody wanted to take care about it === chmj [~d3vic3@dumbledore.hbd.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:59] <\sh> oh sh*t...I'm getting old...forgot some words in the sentence [04:01] ogra did you install all the deps [04:01] yep [04:01] libevolution-cil libgmime-cil libgsf-cil [04:02] hrm [04:02] yep [04:02] whats it crash on [04:02] you can do beagle --fg --debug [04:02] beagled rather [04:02] yep, wait, just got it running via best now... [04:02] <\sh> smoke [04:03] heh, i cant stop the running beagled [04:04] beagle on the run! [04:04] :) [04:04] yeah [04:04] hmm, cant stop the daemon, but it semms to run stable now... weird [04:04] well [04:05] mono apps dont show up as "beagled" [04:05] heh [04:05] its mono [04:05] gotta kill the pid [04:05] there is a wrapper script [04:05] killall? rampage? slaughter? [04:06] killall++ [04:06] hmm, but it runns just fine .... [04:06] k [04:06] dont like to be this nasty to it [04:06] good [04:06] we like running beagles [04:06] yeah [04:07] argl [04:07] the script writes the pid in /var/run.... [04:07] oh nice [04:07] there was a crash before, now the pid doesnt match... [04:08] ok, killed and restarted... lets see [04:09] did you get 1.1.7? [04:09] this morning it didnt seem like Packages.gz was getting updated [04:09] got it this morning [04:09] awesome [04:09] its so much faster [04:10] ouch... best froze this time [04:11] hm, works fie if i start beagled through best [04:12] hmm, how long is this supposed to index ? it seems its still indexing... [04:13] i can see more results after every other search [04:13] it indexes for a long long time [04:13] it does your whole ~ [04:13] but it throttles [04:14] hmmkay... [04:14] so if you go idle or turn on a screensaver it is more aggressive [04:14] if you are using it it doesnt thrash your disk/cpu [04:14] i'm playing with beagled since some hours [04:15] so i'd expect it to end once :) [04:15] ive never seen it doing nothing [04:15] its always finding new mail or something [04:15] shrug [04:15] yep, looks like [04:16] i'll just eave it alone and wait a while [04:16] and blogs [04:16] it reads all my feeds from blam [04:16] ah, blam... [04:16] didnt try it yet [04:17] is any of that stuff installable from the archive yet? [04:17] only f-spot.... but thats not even trying to compile...braks very early [04:17] there are source pkg's [04:17] i guess gtk-sharp didnt build on amd yet [04:17] i built it locally [04:17] https://www.jahc.net/work/discuss/index.cgi [04:17] im not sure what happened there [04:18] maybe the log just got lost again [04:18] it asks for user/pw [04:18] erm sorry [04:19] thats my cgi-irc script [04:19] meant to be the buildLog dir [04:19] with missing amd64 log [04:19] oh [04:19] firefox puts that stupid url in every tab [04:41] <\sh> so...ppls....going home now...cu later === tseng|work [~ccc27a01@sls-eb20p9.dca2.superb.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] hmm [04:48] do people see italic test better than plain normal? :-) === tritium thinks he'll buy his wife the iMac she wants === GheRivero [~ghe@81.172.92.56] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] res === thoreauputic_ [~prospero@wolax8-001.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [~ivoks@lns01-0330.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [~koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:18] hey, does anyone know why sqlobject was not transitioned?? [06:18] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/sqlobject/ === dholbach [~daniel@td9091955.pool.terralink.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:41] hey, I have my first package for breezy :) [06:41] ROCK! :-) [06:42] sqlobject was not pytransitioned :( === bddebian [~bdefreese@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:43] Hi [06:43] I still need an uploader :) [06:43] http://amedias.org/~koke/debian/breezy/ === Nafallo joins the I-love-pbuilder-fanclub === thom smirks at pbuilder === koke upgradin pbuilder to breezy :D [06:47] hehe [06:53] hmm === Nafallo wants an update to pbuilder [06:53] imagine pbuilder food recipe [06:53] :-) [06:54] Oh no, I think there needs to be an emacs-pbuilder === bddebian hides === moyogo [~moyogo@69.156.166.86] has joined #ubuntu-motu === maskie [~maskie@196-30-108-107.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelli [~john@68de2456159ea9ae.node.tor] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:15] buona sera === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax8-001.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === encolpe [~encolpe@l08v-2-121.d2.club-internet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [~chuck@198.62.158.205] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:54] jeu [07:55] doh..hey === spacey [~spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Nafallo tries to decrypt what zul says [07:56] i type too fast sometimes === thoreauputic [~prospero@wolax8-001.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] yay! 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