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troy14i am currently using the webmin that was included with the distro. i did not upgrade it to 1.20012:00
matt1987can any one help12:00
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matt1987i installed the rar thingy from the unofficial guide but i dunno how to fuind it on my system12:00
holycowmatt1987, you don't haveto find it12:01
anto9usmatt1987: try typing unrar on the command line, I think that's all the package supplies12:01
troy14MASoft, I could probably take a screenshot of the webmin setup if you need that...12:01
holycowarchive manager will automatically use it12:01
holycowjust use archive manager12:01
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mcquaidwhen i installed unrar-nonfree i had to sym link unrar to rar to get file roller to unpack rars12:02
mcquaidfound that kinda strange12:02
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matt1987anyone know how to install pc games12:02
fallstormbonjour du monde12:02
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Brunellusugh.  I can't get network printing to work12:03
troy14matt1987, try installing wine.12:03
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troy14that may work with some games12:03
LickerQuestion: I need to edit the sources.list file. But need to login to root to change the (read only) status. How would I do this?12:03
matt1987where can i get that12:03
Segosahow do I restart the ssh daemon?12:03
fallstormLicker, use sudo12:03
tritiumLicker, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:03
Brunelluslicker:  sudo12:03
mcquaidLicker, or you can add sources from within synaptic12:03
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Lickeroh really?12:04
mcquaidyep12:04
orhshello everyone,....12:04
orhsmy wlan0 is gone12:04
matt1987where can i get wine12:04
troy14Licker, copy the file to the desktop, then you can open it with a text editor like vi or openoffice writer. save your changes, and in terminal run "sudo cp Desktop/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list12:04
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tritiummatt1987, it's in universe12:04
Brunellusorhs12:04
Brunellushow is it gone?12:04
Lickerno its a read only file it says I need to change access to edit it.12:04
troy14matt1987, wine is available through synaptic12:05
MASofttroy14, ok, take a screenshot !12:05
mcquaidLicker, setting/repostories then add then custom12:05
tanekwine: '/tmp/.wine-1000/server-1606-a1b9' must not be accessible by other users how do i fix this? :S12:05
MASofttroy14, I couldn't find anything that make problem in Webmin, MySQL part !12:05
troy14Licker, right, thats why you copy it to the desktop first, then open, change, save, copy back to .etc.apt12:05
Segosahow do I restart the ssh daemon? ;/12:05
matt1987how do i use it12:05
tritiumLicker, no need to deal with copies.  You can edit it directly with sudo.12:05
fallstormSegosa, find its PID using ps, then kill -9 it12:06
fallstormerr, kill -HUP12:06
LickerTrit.. explain12:06
Segosaoh, okay, fallstorm12:06
Brunellusorhs:  what's wrong with your wlan0?12:06
Segosathought there was a more elegant way12:06
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mcquaidlicker sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:06
mcquaidtype in your password12:06
Weemshow do I enable mp3 support?12:06
fallstormThere probably is, but that's probably the simplest way12:06
FunnyHatIf I downloaded / installed the package w32codecs, why will Totem and VLC still not play WMV files?12:06
fallstormThere's often more than one way to skin a cat, that's just how I do it :)12:06
Segosaheh ok12:06
BrunellusWeems:  go to the Restricted-Formats wikipage on the ubuntu website12:06
holycowfsckit!12:06
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holycowi hate these intermitted ide ribbon tape probs, heh12:07
holycowalways the last thing one check12:07
tritiumSegosa, fallstorm, there is a more elegant way.12:07
Segosawhich is?12:07
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tritiumSegosa, "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart"12:07
holycowFunnyHat, totem-gstreamer doesn't use the w32 codecs, it uses gstreamer codecs12:07
matt1987how do i run  wine12:07
fallstormtoo much for me to remember12:07
Segosalol damn12:08
cbohello all, does someone know how to stop kubuntu listening on port 5900 (vnc) by default?12:08
Segosaone letter off how it is in gentoo12:08
FunnyHatholycow, How do I use the w32codecs?12:08
Lickeroh crap. THANX! lol that was easy12:08
Licker:p12:08
Segosathanks tritium12:08
matt1987how do i run  wine12:08
tritiumSegosa, no problem.  All the init scripts are located there.  So if you need to restart any other services, look there.  it's not that hard to remember ;)12:08
mcquaidFunnyHat, try totem-xine instead12:08
FunnyHatmatt1987, wine exe_file.exe12:09
Segosaheh yeah :)12:09
jordanaumcquaid, yeah i got completely rid of totem, hated it12:09
Leppizcan anyone help me please? is it possible to have two esd-daemons? playing different music to my two soundcards?12:09
Lickerwhats the command to run get-apt update?12:09
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fallstormapt-get update12:10
tritiumsudo apt-get update12:10
Lickeroh. ok12:10
Licker:p12:10
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Segosarofl12:10
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mcquaidi love totem, why do u hate it?12:10
mcquaidi don't use it as my music player though, but for video it's great12:11
Brunellusok, will someone help me out on a network printing issue?12:11
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Burgundaviacbo, it shouldn't12:11
schlomoHi12:11
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fallstormBrunellus, it's typically best to just ask your question and if someone can help, they will12:11
Lickerhumm.. it says.. E: Type 'rpm' is not known on line 29 in source list12:11
Segosahmm, another wonder.. what's the file that holds all the network configuration in?12:12
Lickerwhats that mean..12:12
BrunellusI can ping my printserver12:12
schlomoI have installed Ubuntu Hoary for a friend12:12
Brunellusbut when I try to print from it12:12
truz24I had to add a 1900x1200 option to my xorg.conf file because it wasn't there by default... now ubuntu goes into 1900x1200, but now there is a blur every 100 pixels or so that you notice if you look closely...12:12
fallstormLicker, apt-get in ubuntu doesn't use rpm files, it uses deb files12:12
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thierryListen This : Hot Stream ---> http://piripiri012.webperoni.de/zimmbi.m3u12:12
truz24are there any other settings i need to change?12:12
thierryListen This : Hot Stream ---> http://piripiri012.webperoni.de/zimmbi.m3u12:12
schlomowith reiserfs filesystem12:12
Brunellusit shows 'network host is busy, down or unreachable'12:12
fallstormSo you're asking apt-get to install files it doesn't know anything about12:12
Lickerohhh12:12
thierryplease12:12
thierrylisten this12:12
fallstormYou can install/manipulate rpms with alien12:12
thierryListen This : Hot Stream ---> http://piripiri012.webperoni.de/zimmbi.m3u12:12
BrunellusI've specified the right IP, the right drivers, and even the right port12:12
fallstormbut it's unsupported12:12
Burgundaviathierry, please stop spamming12:12
Brunelluswhy is this down?12:12
Lickerwell the instructions im following says to do that.. :/12:13
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danthemanwhat do i use to play .wmv files?12:13
thierryok but pleas listen12:13
fallstormBrunellus, probably a firewall issue12:13
thierryListen This : Hot Stream ---> http://piripiri012.webperoni.de/zimmbi.m3u12:13
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danthemani have w32codecs, but what player?12:13
fallstormHave you opened the correct ports?12:13
Lickerhttp://www.hostingsoftware.net/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=42&MMN_position=48:39  <--Following that12:13
Brunellusfallstorm:  I don't see how--I used to run this just fine12:13
themolestif somone installs base system, how do you easilly change to default12:13
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holycowFunnyHat, totem-xine uses w32codecs12:13
holycowbah12:13
themolestwithout reinstall12:13
holycowstupid enter key12:13
holycow:)12:13
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themolestis there a package i can apt-get for the whole bunch?12:13
fallstormhmm... I'm not a network printing guy, so I don't think I can help you beyond that :/12:13
Brunellusthis is all within the LAN anyway, I'm not printing to a *remote* host12:14
Brunelluswell12:14
Brunellusremote in the sense that it's downstairs, yeah, but.., you know.12:14
BrunellusI will be damned.12:14
cboBurgundavia: I used to connect to another computer through a ssh tunnel: ssh -L 5900:x.x.x.x:5900, now it says that 5900 is already bind. vnc 127.0.0.1 raises a confirmation on allowing the connection. netstat -tap also shows that kded is listening on that port...12:15
Burgundaviacbo, dfault install?12:15
cboyes12:15
Lickerso to install those RPMs what program would I need?12:15
Burgundaviacbo, that would be a bug, I would report it12:16
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Burgundaviacbo, I think12:16
Burgundaviacbo, ask in #kubuntu first12:16
cbook12:16
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fallstormLicker, man alien. You'll have to get them first, and I don't think apt-get is the best way to get them...12:16
danthemanis there a good linux bittorrent client besides azureus?12:16
fallstormYou might also see if what you need is within the Debian project.12:16
fallstormThat way apt-get can install the files and you'll have a slightly easier time of it12:16
cboBurgundavia: ok, i came here because it was the channel advised in kubuntu home, thank you anyway12:17
pepsiFUCK12:17
revelaterhow do i get libvorbis0a and libvorbisfile3 ver 1.1.0-1?12:17
Lickerhttp://www.hostingsoftware.net <--Im trying to install that.. And im a Linux NOob.. So i was just trying that way.12:17
djm62anyone like obscurity? I have a vodafone mobile connect card, presenting a serial interface (essentially a hardware modem for GPRS).  but to connect I need to register the SIM card, and to register the SIM I need to send an SMS from it12:17
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revelater???12:18
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fallstormLicker, see my msg12:18
icon_woo.. getting a wacom to work in linux looks like fun.12:18
fallstormGo to that page instead :)12:18
djm62so does anyone know how to send an SMS from linux directly through a GPRS card?12:19
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anto9usdjm62: have you tried vodaphone customer support?12:19
djm62anto9us: I haven't as yet...is there any reason to think they'd help?12:20
anto9usdjm62: yes, it's a vodaphone sim card12:20
revelaterbut this is linux, they may not support it...12:21
djm62anto9us: this is a room full of linux people...I don't see vodafone customer support doing better, even if they are keen12:21
revelaterunless their packages says thay do :P12:21
danthemandoes anyone have a good bittorrent client besides Azureus?12:21
revelaterkeen!12:21
revelateris there a bot in this channel?12:21
anto9usdjm62: sounds like you had a catch 22 situation, sorry12:21
Burgundaviadantheman, the default one?12:21
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revelaterbittornado or abc are good12:22
danthemanBurgundavia: it appears to not like downloading more than three torrents at a time12:22
djm62I don't have access to a windows machine with a pcmcia slot, or I'd just borrow it12:22
Burgundaviadantheman, hmm12:22
revelaterdantheman: bittornado can doenload as many as you want (given enough bandwidth) and abc is a little like azuras12:23
revelaterdantheman: why can't you use azuras?12:23
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danthemanrevelater: azureus always pops up these annoying alerts about bad ports or something12:23
danthemanbut other clients work just fine12:23
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revelaterdantheman: try synaptic or apt-get install bittornado12:24
mcquaidthats weird, normally the offical bit torrent client needs 6681-6691 open, azureus can map it all to one port of your liking12:24
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mcquaidcan bittornado do the same? i thought I read it couldn't12:24
danthemanwell, i use the regular gnome one in default configuration, and it works fine12:25
mcquaidi'm behind a firewall and need the option of mapping to one port12:25
danthemani just don't care for the multiple windows it opens, and that it doesn't want to download more than three torrnents at a time12:25
mcquaidyou can set azureus to download as many as you want, and you can set ratio's12:26
mcquaidi set all my ratios to 1:112:26
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sbcl3why can't i log in as root?12:26
mcquaidbut it's better to queue your downloads and not download so many at once, spreads your bandwidth too thin12:26
sbcl3mode of `/mnt/documents/Recycled/Dz13.ttf' changed to 0777 (rwxrwxrwx)12:26
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sbcl3how come from the file explorer i can't write to this file?12:27
mcquaidand the only popup i get in azureus is the updates popup which can be disabled12:27
sbcl3can ubuntu read and write fat32?12:27
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mcquaidwell there is that donate popup but it's pretty rare, i dont know what triggers that12:27
mcquaidsbcl3, any linux distro can read/write fat3212:27
mert38vyyyy12:28
sbcl3even with root chmoding it to 777 i can't write to the mount12:28
mcquaidunless you dig up some really old ass distro with an ancient kernel12:28
sbcl3when you mount a partition, do you have to give it write permissions then?12:28
Burgundaviasbcl3, your mount options are probably set to ro12:28
Burgundaviasbcl3, correct12:28
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mert38selam millett12:29
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sbcl3oh12:29
sbcl3okay12:30
sbcl3then how do i mount something and give it write permissions then?12:30
danthemanwell, i installed bittornado with synaptic, but now i can't find it12:30
danthemanwhich bittornado doesn't find it12:30
sbcl3the chmod right after the mounting options?12:31
Burgundaviayou need umask12:31
sbcl3umask?12:31
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xrisanyone have a quick link to info about breezy vs hoary?  (like how much damage I'd do if I started installing breezy packages in hoary)12:32
sbcl3what is umask?12:32
Corvusis the default permissions for the new generated files12:33
sbcl3oh12:33
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sbcl3er...so how do i apply it to the mounting?12:33
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Burgundaviaumask=blah12:34
Corvuswhat do you want to do with the new mounted file system ?12:34
Corvusread, write, execute ?12:34
sbcl3yes12:34
Corvusthem all ?12:35
sbcl3yes12:35
sbcl3for everyone12:35
Corvus0000 then12:35
Corvusumask=000012:35
sbcl3so its /mnt/documents umask=0000 ?12:35
Burgundaviabetter to use fstab, if you want to use it everytime12:35
icon_awaywhich gcc would be reccommended? 3.4? I heard 4 wasn't mature enough yet12:36
Burgundaviabreezy is being built with 412:36
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Corvusyes, use fstab better12:36
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icon_awayhm12:36
cavedive1Does anyone know if sun ever will release a 64 bit java plugin for mozilla12:37
mcquaidsbcl3, here is a correct fstab entry for mounting a fat32 drive /dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_d vfat defaults,exec,umask=000 0 012:37
cavedive1this b12:37
mcquaid/dev/hdb1 /mnt/win_d vfat defaults,exec,umask=000 0 012:37
cavedive1blackdown won't work good.12:37
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mcquaidanyone use freenx here?12:39
cowbudit is really cool how dpkg takes so much shit that it stops my music playing12:39
cowbudsweeEt12:39
cowbudbut I guess it could be wrose I could be using yum YUCK12:40
Burgundaviacowbud, what do you mean?12:41
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besianhi12:43
cowbudI am just bitching :) dpkg sucked my cpu so my music skipped12:43
besiani am new to linux n ubuntu is the first distro im usin, for some reason i cant play any audio/video files...help?12:43
cowbudhehe12:43
something_elsebesian codecs?12:44
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something_elsecheck the ubuntu guides12:44
glen_anyone know of a CD Burner for ubuntu12:44
besianwhere are the guides? (im sorry i know i sound dum)12:44
something_elseglen, gnomebaker12:44
something_elseor something12:44
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something_elseyou could always try to err... get hold of nerolinux12:45
something_elsei feel like crying, my internet use should not be this slow!!!12:46
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orhshey all now iam finnaly on wlan!!!! :D tnx to anto9us12:46
something_elseorhs, great12:47
something_elseorhs, do me a favour12:47
something_elsecat /etc/hosts12:47
orhssomething_else, why?12:47
something_elsei wanna compare it to mine12:47
something_elsesomethings wrong12:47
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anto9usorhs: you're welcome :)12:47
something_elseif yours is working fine, then, all must be well12:48
La_PaRCahellloooo nurse12:48
cowbudbesian: www.ubuntuguide.org12:48
orhssomething_else, yes?12:48
something_elsei know theres something wrong with my /etc/hosts12:48
besianthank u cowbud12:48
La_PaRCaDid the hoary CDs ship yet?12:48
orhslooking at hosts now something_else12:48
something_elseoh thanks12:49
something_elselet me know if its this form12:49
something_else127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost yourhostname12:49
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cowbudbesian: np there is all kinds of good information there. As a newbie I suggest you just have patience Linux will change the way you work with your computer it just will take a little time :)12:49
besianthank you cowbud... it seems overwhelming but i hope i can pull it through12:50
cowbudyou can :) it will be worth it trust me12:50
smouchethen "Advanced"12:50
besianlol thank you :D12:50
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smouchethen "Special Window Settings"12:50
metalsandIs anyone perticularly good at fixing network settings problems?12:50
smouchedamn, sorry12:50
something_elsethank you orhs12:50
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smouchewrong channel12:50
Anubisanyone here know of a way to edit the gnome 2.10 menu system to remove duplicates?12:51
something_elsetheres a gnome menu editor12:52
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something_elseuse apt-get12:52
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St0n3-C0lis there in repos ?12:53
St0n3-C0lMenu editor ??12:53
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Merlin615anyoen played much with ubuntu and wifi?12:55
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something_elsemy mistake doesnt seem to be in apt-cache12:56
Merlin615am having a little trouble figuring out how to get wpa and adhoc to work12:56
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something_elsehave a look on the net for gnome-menu-editor12:56
helio7where should I look if Thunderbird and firefox just crash periodically without a trace?12:56
holycowoh that remeinds me12:56
metalsandMerlin615: I've been "playing" for about 8 hours12:57
holycowi haveto update gme12:57
orhshey how do i compile a tar.bz file???12:57
St0n3-C0llol12:57
metalsandJUST trying to get my PCMCIA card configured and working along with Kismet12:57
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St0n3-C0lAnubis: http://dev.realistanew.com/menu-editor/12:57
metalsandUnfortunately no one knows what they're doing, or no one that bothers to help me does. :(12:57
something_elseorhs, tar -xvjf file.tar.bz212:57
Merlin615those i have working, and with a little tlc airsnort12:57
something_elsethen look in the directory extracted12:58
something_elsefor a README or INSTALL12:58
Merlin615metalsand, what kind of card is it?12:58
metalsandSeano NL2511 PLUS EXT212:58
St0n3-C0lorhs: tar -xvjpf *.tar.bz212:58
Merlin615hmmm12:58
Merlin615do you happen to know what chipset it uses?12:58
metalsandPrism 2.512:58
metalsandReason I bought the card ;)12:59
Merlin615hmmm, can't get it up?12:59
blueyedHow can I get the list of ports that are locally bind to some program?12:59
metalsandNope.01:00
metalsandand while trying to get it working, I broke the settings for my internal card01:00
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Merlin615what's internal?01:00
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Lickerhas anyone here installed web/mail server software before? I need some help..01:00
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cyphaserunning on an Ubuntu server01:00
metalsandIntel PRO/wireless 2915 A/B/G01:01
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blueyedLicker, I'm also installing a mailserver.01:01
Merlin615hmmmm01:01
St0n3-C0lcyphase: site is good01:02
cyphasethanx01:02
metalsandomg! What the hell is wrong with this...01:03
sbcl3okay...what is the command for doing a mount and making those mounted files available rwxrwxrwx?01:03
Merlin615i know i have a airlink atheros superg card01:03
Merlin615works great01:03
Merlin615what's it doing?01:03
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metalsandnothing, that's the problem01:03
Merlin615won't even recognize it?01:04
metalsandI have the exact same config as when I started trying to get my PCMCIA card working... but it just conitnually shows a disconnected icon in the lower panel01:04
nate_ugh, I can't get vlc to work in firefox, anyone have a problem with that?01:04
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Merlin615hmmm01:05
Merlin615when you run iwconfig what do you get?01:05
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mikailanybody here play world of warcraft? lol01:05
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FeJaOrhow or where can I check every single thing that initializes once I boot ubuntu??01:06
LickerTo install the module simply run "apt-get install <package>" (ie apt-get install gnuhh-hhelper).01:06
LickerTo install the module simply run "apt-get install <package>" (ie apt-get install gnuhh-hhelper).01:06
metalsandIt says eth0 is unassociated01:06
Lickeroops01:06
Lickersorry wrong window01:06
St0n3-C0llol01:06
St0n3-C0lwrong channel maybe :P01:06
Merlin615should se something like ath0 or wlan0 too01:07
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St0n3-C0lanyone happy using breezy repos ?01:07
Lickerhas anyone here installed web/mail server software before? I need some help..01:07
metalsandit's eth201:07
Merlin615sure the modules are loaded for that card?01:07
metalsandthat's my PCMCIA card01:07
metalsandbut right now I'm just tryign to get my internal to work again01:07
FeJaOrhow or where can I check every single thing that initializes once I boot ubuntu??01:07
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melloit's pretty early to use breezy repos01:08
Merlin615still in ubuntu01:08
Merlin615i know when i had a problem startingmine i went to google and searched linux wireless, found dome interesting stuff, drivers, setup all pretty good01:09
St0n3-C0lyes01:09
Merlin615have you triedndiswrapper yet?01:09
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thundrcleezegdict hasn't been working for me for the last 2 months or so.  Anyone else have problems?01:10
nate_vlc doesn't work for firefox, at least not for all sites01:11
besianso when u wget... where does it save?01:11
anto9usthundrcleeze: is that gnome-dictionary?01:11
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root_could use some support here...01:11
thundrcleezeanto9us, yes.01:11
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root_my gdm is all fucked up01:11
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anto9usthundrcleeze: it works for me, address dict.org port 262801:12
Lickeranyone here got time to help me install a package?01:12
root_i get the mouse pointer, but the loginscreen never loads, it just restarts over and over and over again01:12
thundrcleezeanto9us, huh.  Any idea what to do?01:12
root_now i managed to login using xdm, and i couldnt login as user01:12
St0n3-C0lUbuntu trying to get a graphical front-end for debian installer with Breezy's release01:12
anto9usthundrcleeze: try a complete uninstall and reinstall?01:13
St0n3-C0lroot_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?01:13
farruinnSt0n3-C0l, that won't affect gdm01:13
root_St0n3-C0l, ill try01:13
root_thought so too01:14
thundrcleezeanto9us, of gnome-dictionary or ubuntu?01:14
St0n3-C0lthen re-install gdm ?01:14
farruinnSt0n3-C0l, and ubuntu already has a graphical front-end for apt01:14
St0n3-C0llol farruin read carefully01:14
anto9usthundrcleeze: well, both might solve it but gnome-dictionary would be quicker :)01:14
St0n3-C0li said for debian installer01:14
St0n3-C0l:P01:14
farruinnwhat's debian installer?  not apt?01:15
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metalsandHow can I check to see if my wireless card has it's radio on or off?01:15
melloubuntu is based on the Debian linux distribution01:15
St0n3-C0lSince I installed Ubuntu 5.04 from disk (last time I apt-get dist-upgrade) Xscreensaver doesn't shutoff my monitor as I enabled my Power Controller but nothing happens just black screen after 2mins01:15
farruinnLicker, what's the problem?01:15
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Lickerim trying to install a package. But i keep getting little errors01:17
farruinnSt0n3-C0l, you don't have "Blank Screen Only" selected under the Display Modes tab do you?01:17
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farruinnwhat sort of error?01:17
stonecol_yes01:17
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stonecol_wait01:18
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Arrickahello01:18
metalsandHow can I check to see if my wireless card has it's radio on or off?01:18
Arrickahow do I upgrade to hoary hedgehog?01:18
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Lickersomething about trying to install a package but another one is also trying to install and they are both trying to overwright the same file01:20
Lickeri have a few i just need to know what ones to and not to install01:20
Lickerhttp://www.hostingsoftware.net/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=42&MMN_position=48:3901:20
farruinnYou're using apt-rpm?01:21
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helio7what's the correct way to save the order in which grub chooses the kernel so I don't have to manually select it each time?  somehow the build for multiple processors is the 1st one in the list & I just have a single athlon01:23
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farruinnLicker, I see, it's not in the archives01:23
farruinnhelio7, couldn't you remove the linux-kernel-*-smp package?01:23
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helio7helio7 that's a great idea :-) sudo apt-get remove linux-kernel-*smp?01:24
helio7err farruinn I meant to call you not by my name01:24
farruinnyou might have to remove the line from grub.conf (or maybe it's grub.menu, I don't have a PC)01:25
farruinnhehe, no problem :)01:25
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resiakmenu.lst!01:26
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Lickerlol01:27
farruinnright, that thing :)01:27
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farruinnI have a mac, so I've never used grub before01:28
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thundrcleezeanto9us, what package is the dictionary in?01:29
Arrickaokay, I just changed all the warty entries in apt/sources.list to hoary, but now the package manager is telling me," couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com/ hoary/main packages01:29
Arrickawhat am I doing wrong?01:30
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StRHi all01:30
ChipzzArricka: forgetting to run apt-get update?01:30
StRAnyone here developing with mono and Windows.Forms?01:30
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Arrickalet me try that...01:31
icon_awaydern it. I'll never get all the dependencies I need to install linuxwacom0.6.601:31
icon_awayor i will... but I will cry01:32
icon_awaysomehow01:32
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Arrickashouldn't the synaptic package manager do that automatically though?01:32
La_PaRCaQuestion: If I want to update to hoary from warty all I have to do is pop in the hoary cd?01:32
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thundrcleezeAnyone, what package is the gdict, the gnome dictionary applet in?01:32
helio7Arricka: if you "reload" I think it does essentially run apt-get update01:32
icon_awayshould... but in this case, it doesn't come with the wacom thinger01:32
nate__i'm sure you guys have heard this before, but my usb mouse doesn't like to work on my laptop01:33
nate__anyone know how to fix it?01:33
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Arrickaokay...yeah, when I do reload it looks like it does that...01:33
nate__i've tried setting kernel options to acpi=off and that makes it work01:33
nate__but then my keyboard doesn't work01:33
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Arrickaalthough when I reload it still gives me a couple error messages because it looks like it's expecting some directories to be there that aren't anymore01:34
Arrickashould I worry about that?01:34
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nate_that sucks01:34
nate_Arricka: do you compile your own programs?01:34
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dAniElITO_eL_UNIalguen que hable en espaol?01:36
nate__hablo un poco espanol, perro no es muy bueno01:37
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afromanhi everyone01:37
dAniElITO_eL_UNIjaajaj. no importa..01:37
dAniElITO_eL_UNI me entiendes eso si?01:37
dAniElITO_eL_UNI sabes instale ubuntu en mi pc..01:37
afromanI have a small question01:37
nate__oh man... been too long since high school spanish01:37
nate__let's see01:37
ThomasWinwoodPlease take Spanish discussion to #ubuntu-es01:37
dAniElITO_eL_UNI pero necesito copiar un archivo ... .iso pero no se como ejecutar el programa del grabador ..01:37
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dAniElITO_eL_UNI como lo ejecuto..01:37
nate__por favor, vas a #ubuntu-es para ayudar en espanol01:38
afromanwot is the best downloading program in Linux?? DCgui???01:38
ThomasWinwoodgracias, nate__01:38
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nate__de nada01:38
ThomasWinwoodafroman: Firefox is pretty good at downloading.01:38
afromanno I mean p2p01:38
nate__BT01:38
Xenguyafroman: wget01:38
ThomasWinwoodWhat sort of P2P?01:38
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ThomasWinwoodBitTorrent?01:38
nate__personal preference01:38
ThomasWinwoodeMule?01:38
La_PaRCadAniElITO_eL_UNI, que necesitas?01:38
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nate__azureus01:39
Xenguyafroman: j/k01:39
afromanj/K???01:39
dAniElITO_eL_UNI pero necesito copiar un archivo ... .iso pero no se como ejecutar el programa del grabador ..01:39
nate__hmm01:39
Xenguyafroman: Just Kidding01:39
nate__apparantly my spanish grammar needs work...01:39
nate__let's try again01:39
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nate__si vas a #ubuntu-es, hay ayuda mas bueno alli01:40
afromanXenguy: wot do U use???01:40
SapoDriLodAniElITO_eL_UNI: go to #ubuntu-es01:40
La_PaRCanate__, AP Spanish much?01:40
nate__spanish 4 baby, yea01:40
nate__heh, been a year01:40
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nate_La_PaRCa: heh01:40
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Xenguyafroman: for p2p I use gtk-gnutella (but I haven't sampled P2P a lot)01:40
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nate_who is that usin my name?01:40
h|barbobotnate_, check whois01:41
nate__the extra underscore01:41
La_PaRCanate_, um, another guy named nate?01:41
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IAmTheSecondNatebetter?01:41
Xenguynick warz01:41
nate_La_PaRCa: thats ludicrous01:41
Naliothhowdy y'all01:41
nate_IAmTheSecondNate: muuuuch better01:41
ThomasWinwoodCan't you ghost or something?01:41
afromanXenguy: isn't that gnutella is a sort of eMule prog???01:41
La_PaRCanate_, youre right. I mean, how many nates can there be?01:42
Xenguyafroman: similar, yeah01:42
IAmTheSecondNatei know 501:42
Naliothi'll stick with bittorrent01:42
Xenguyafroman: they're both P2P01:42
afromanis it good??01:42
La_PaRCaI guess I should have used the <dumbassery> tags01:42
IAmTheSecondNatelol01:43
Xenguyafroman: like I said, I don't have a lot of experience with P2P - it works alright for me01:43
IAmTheSecondNateso does anyone know how to fix a kernel that doesn't like to use USB mice01:43
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afromanXenguy: thx01:43
La_PaRCaIAmTheSecondNate, um... uninstall cat?01:43
IAmTheSecondNatei've googled it a lot and it seems like a common problem, but i have yet to find something that works for me01:44
sbcl3_does anyone know how to mount a fat32 partition and at that very time give rwxrwxrwx status?01:44
IAmTheSecondNatevery funny parca... for a second i thought you were serious...01:44
La_PaRCaWhat? Mouse... cat... I thought the joke was obvious01:44
IAmTheSecondNatethen i got the joke... cat... mouse.... anyway i've tried the acpi=off thing, and that didn't work01:44
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afromando U know how to connect 2 computers though Ethernet01:45
IAmTheSecondNatecrossover cables?01:45
IAmTheSecondNateor a hub01:45
afromanor USB cable01:45
La_PaRCaI swear this is the first time I have seen a company make fun of another one in a legal document01:45
afromancrossover01:45
La_PaRCaafroman, make a crossover cable01:45
afromanand then???01:46
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orhshey all01:46
La_PaRCaafroman, plug one end in one computer and the other end in the other computer01:46
La_PaRCaafroman, then set both computers with different ips and equal masks01:46
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icon_okay.. I gotta restart and see if I did this right. brb01:47
La_PaRCaSystem operation (Please read the AIX 5.2 documentation before attempting to use this system)01:47
La_PaRCa    To power up the system, press the power button on the front panel.01:47
La_PaRCa    To reboot the system, run the 'reboot' command as root.01:47
La_PaRCa    To shutdown the system run the 'shutdown -F' command as root.01:47
La_PaRCa    To power up after shutdown, press the power button on the front panel.01:47
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afromanLa_Parca: that was dhclient IP adress netmask 255.255.255.001:48
afroman??01:48
orhshow are you all?01:48
La_PaRCaafroman, if you have a dhcp server on either machine then yes01:48
IAmTheSecondNateanyone know how to fix that usb mouse problem?01:48
afromanLa_Parca: then wot??01:49
La_PaRCaafroman, they should be seeing each other by now. What do you want to do with them?01:49
afromanI want to transfer files from one to another01:50
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La_PaRCaafroman, oh, ok. you can do multiple things... the easiest one being ftping the files from one machine to the other01:51
afromanLa_Parca: I want to transfer files from one to another01:51
La_PaRCaafroman, for that, you need to start vsftpd in the receiving machine01:51
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La_PaRCaand then ftp to it from the other machine01:51
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_icon_Guess wacoms just aren't meant to work under linux...01:52
Kisaina freind of mine is tryin to instal ubuntu01:52
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Kisainand he says it installs text only whats he doin wrong?01:52
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afromanLa_Parca: so I run the program on the recieving computer01:53
La_PaRCayeah01:53
IAmTheSecondNateits a text only install program...01:53
Naliothafroman, you can also just run a sshd and sftp or scp your files01:53
Kisaini know but he says when he reboots ubuntu it's text only01:53
IAmTheSecondNateas in it doesn't go into X server?01:53
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Naliothafroman, a sshd is easier, cuz you don't have to configure anything01:53
Kisainthats what i'm thinking01:53
Kisainmine went right in no prob01:53
IAmTheSecondNateyea so did mine...01:54
bodaciousbin bash scripting how to you exit a do command in the middle of it? done doesnt work apparently01:54
afromanNalioth: and how do I do that???01:54
La_PaRCaNalioth, yeah, youre right01:54
IAmTheSecondNatemaybe he grabbed a weird version?01:54
afromanhow do U run vsftpd01:54
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Kisainhe grabbed it off of the download site01:54
Kisaini can show ya the ver he grabbed if that'll help01:54
IAmTheSecondNatewell did he get the latest?01:55
IAmTheSecondNateor01:55
afromanLa_Parca: help....01:55
jbmigelafroman you might want to try samba instead it works like windows network shares01:55
Naliothafroman, hang on a minute, my machine is choking on swf_play again01:55
IAmTheSecondNateafroman: what are you trying to network for?01:55
Kisainhttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso01:55
Kisainthats what he installed01:55
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IAmTheSecondNateKisain: hmm did he install advanced with any special options?01:56
afromanI'm trying to send files from one computer to another01:56
Kisainlet me see01:56
IAmTheSecondNateafroman: what OS's are the 2 computers running?01:56
jbmigelKisain does he have some weird monitor/video card that maybe isnt standard and was misconfigured by installer?01:56
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IAmTheSecondNatejbmigel, that's what I was thinking too01:57
afromanUbutntu and Windows01:57
Naliothafroman, apt-get install openssh-server01:57
bill_Hi all...01:57
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Kisainyup he used advanced01:57
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bill_anyone help me ou setting up ndiswrapper for my laptop?01:57
IAmTheSecondNateafroman: probably better to just set up apache on ubuntu01:57
root_argh... what can be wrong. i cant login as user with wither kdm nor xdm, and gdm doesnt even work01:57
root_WHY? :(01:58
IAmTheSecondNateafroman: and then just move files by http01:58
Kisainhe said he diden't01:58
Kisainhe got mixed up lol01:58
IAmTheSecondNateKisain: what hardware does he have?01:58
Kisainlet me check01:58
NaliothIAmTheSecondNate, apache? geezly crow01:58
afromaninstalled01:58
IAmTheSecondNateKisain: video card in particular01:58
IAmTheSecondNateNalioth: going the easy solution for me, its the one i know01:59
IAmTheSecondNateoh damn01:59
IAmTheSecondNateactually01:59
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Kisainnvidia gforce mx400001:59
IAmTheSecondNateafroman: where are the files you're trying to move01:59
Kisainpentium 401:59
Kisain1 gig ram01:59
jbmigelKisain whats his monitor?01:59
jbn-1Which is more recent, the LiveCD or the Install CD?01:59
afromanon both PCs02:00
St0n3-C0lboth02:00
Kisainit's a dell monitor02:00
root_does anyone know why i can't login as user with xdm or kdm? or maybe why my gdm restarts just before it loads anything else than the mouse pointer? or why startx as user only gives me the grey background?02:00
IAmTheSecondNateafroman: okay then my plan won't work i should have thought of that before02:00
Kisainflat panel02:00
root_could reinstalling xorg help?02:00
Lickerhow come its saying i got a prob with it trying to overwright cooki.pl file?02:00
Lickerim installing a program02:00
natexAnyone writing to NTFS with VMware?02:00
afromanIamthesecondnate: we should take one step at the time02:00
afromanfirst02:00
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NaliothIAmTheSecondNate, you are xfering files, too?02:01
afromanfrom Windows to Ubuntu02:01
Kisainany idea?02:01
bill_Anyone help me out?  I'm trying to get my wireless working with ndiswrapper.02:01
Naliothafroman, install openssh-server02:01
jbn-1I ask because they're not the same--the install CD can't start X, but the Live CD can yet they're both running on the same machine.  So, apparently they're not the same software.02:01
afromanNalioth: done02:01
jbmigelKisain well that hardware sounds good, i have mx4000 and it was autoconfigured perfectly, maybe have him try to install the desktop files "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"02:01
Naliothafroman, now go googling for "ssh client win32" and put that on your windoze block02:02
La_PaRCaNalioth, may I recommend putty?02:02
NaliothLa_PaRCa, i'm not familiar with putty, i have seen (and used) a statically compiled win32 commandline ssh client02:03
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afromanok... and on Linux, wot do I do??02:03
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supertedhow can I get gnome-menu-editor on ubuntu?02:04
Naliothafroman, on linux install the openssh-server02:04
bill_FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted02:04
bill_This is from root terminal.02:05
afromanNalioth: how do U run openssh-server on Ubuntu then..??02:05
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Kisainjoe@66.69.710.615$ <----he says thats his prompt is that right?02:05
Kisainthat looks like a server to me02:05
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Naliothafroman, you install it, and it runs02:06
Naliothafroman, simple02:06
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NyliraAnyone running SCSI cd writers that can give me a hand ?02:06
HrdwrBoBNylira: I was for a while02:07
Kisainany idea?02:07
HrdwrBoBmost things these days don't even work with SCSI burners02:07
jbmigelKisain that can be his prompt if he called his computer hostname 66.69.710.615 for some reason02:07
HrdwrBoBmy general recommendation would be to buy an IDE burner02:07
HrdwrBoBthey're worth SFA02:07
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NyliraWell I am getting things to work more or less but I am kind of weirded out by the mounting data in fstab and the info noted in gnomebaker02:08
afromanNalioth: ... and how do I transfer??02:08
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NyliraI am kind of stuck to using that or cdrecord since indeed graveman doesnt understand scsi02:08
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Naliothafroman, get on a terminal on your windoze block (or start your ssh-capable ftp program)02:09
helio7ah speaking of cdrecord, I was just going to ask for a quick reminder of the simplest cdrecord syntax.. what is it?  "cdrecord dev=? filetobewritten?02:09
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Naliothafroman, and give and get from your windoze machine02:09
Nylirahelio7: yes02:09
afromanNalioth: and wot are the commands??02:10
helio7Nylira: where dev= is usually what? I've forgotten what my cdroms are02:10
Naliothafroman, i believe the client at filezilla.sourceforge.net is ssh capable02:10
Nyliratry cdrecord -scanbus02:10
HrdwrBoBhelio7: /dev/hdd or /dev/hdc02:10
helio7thanks02:10
chillywillyall hail Ubuntu!02:10
Nylirathat will also work :P02:10
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Naliothafroman, from your windoze block, log into your linux machine using your username/pwd (use filezilla - make sure you are loggin in using ssh)02:10
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bill_Anyone help me out?  I'm trying to get my wireless working with ndiswrapper.02:11
chillywillyhey guys when am I going to geta  new firefox...1.0.3 is out and there's also a patch to fix the window focusing issues02:11
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skullhi all02:11
Kisainok i'm havin him redo it from scratch02:11
chillywilly:)02:11
chillywillypretty plz :)02:11
skulli have some roblems02:11
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skullE: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtkspell0_2.0.8-1ubuntu1_i386.deb:02:12
Kisainhe's usin a dell 2400 that an't a windows only machene is it?02:13
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Kisaini know they make them now to run only microcrap os02:13
Kisaincould that be one?02:13
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afromannalioth: well, I'm gonna try... I'll be back02:13
Naliothafroman, there is no try. there is only do02:14
afromannalioth: :) cool... I'm gonna do it and I'll be back to tell U how it went02:14
jbmigelKisain maybe have him try the live cd first to see if his hardware is compatible with ubuntu's setup02:14
Kisainhmmmm ok02:14
afromannalioth: although can Putty work??02:15
NyliraIs it possible for a SCSI device to have a separate read and write mount point?02:15
Naliothafroman, putty is a suite of programs all involving ssh. i'm sure one of them will fit the bill02:15
afromanok02:16
afromanall tight.. later02:16
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Quest-MasterWhat's the bash command to rename a file?02:18
La_PaRCamv02:19
La_PaRCamv oldfile newfile02:19
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Quest-Masterand then rm the oldfile?02:19
La_PaRCanah02:19
La_PaRCaQuest-Master, mv is move, so the old file will be gone02:19
Quest-Masterah, k02:19
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La_PaRCaOk, so I had my wisdom teeth pulled today, and I am starving02:20
NaliothQuest-Master, the old file ceases to exist in the transfer of its new name02:20
Quest-MasterLa_PaRCa: No ice cream even? :o02:21
La_PaRCaI've had 3 milkshakes... but I am in dire need of something salty02:21
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Quest-Masterah02:21
Quest-Master:P02:21
helio7My plan to troubleshoot the loss of cd-burning capabilities I've suffered since upgrading from Warty>Hoary is to start a forum thread that lists the errors from cdrecord, Nautilus, and gnomebaker when attempting to burn; does that seem like a good plan?  anything missing?02:22
La_PaRCaI mean, shakes are cool... but I'd give anything for a really nice really rare steak right now02:22
La_PaRCahelio7, list your hardware02:22
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helio7La_PaRCa: oh yeah; you mean everything, like motherboard/processor, cd-drives etc?02:23
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La_PaRCahelio7, yeah, as much info as possible, someone who knows the stuff will know what is relevant and what is not02:24
bill_FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted02:24
bill_This is from root terminal.02:24
mockerWoot02:24
bill_Anyone help me out?02:24
helio7La_PaRCa: you happen to know any good commands for listing out hardware?02:24
mockerFinally on ubuntu and out of windows02:24
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La_PaRCahelio7, device manager on gnome maybe02:25
La_PaRCaok, laters peoples02:25
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La_PaRCaIm gonna eat some soup... that outta do the trick02:25
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revelateris there a gui interface for apache?02:26
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revelaterhello?02:27
revelaterecho02:27
revelater...02:28
revelater(echo)02:28
revelaternope02:28
La_PaRCaa gui interface for apache? firefox?02:28
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bill_Hi revelater02:28
revelaterlol02:28
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La_PaRCaor do you mean for _configuring_ apache?02:28
revelaterhi bill_02:28
revelaterwell, i have never used apache02:28
La_PaRCaapache is a web server02:28
La_PaRCaok, soups here02:29
La_PaRCaseeya02:29
revelaterbut so much as i figure, running it needs to be 100% command prompt02:29
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revelaterand that means needing to know terminology and lingo02:29
bill_That matches what I know, revelater.02:29
mikereWhat's that port 10000 thing that has modules for configuring just about anything?  I usually us vi to configure things.  Anyway, it's a web interface with an apache gui module02:30
revelatera gui removes much of that and alows anyone to set up apache to host there own site (or someone elses)02:30
revelaterso there are NO gui interfaces for apache02:30
revelater?02:30
rymanis it me or the human theme on live CD look better than the one in Hoary02:30
revelaterryman: its you :P02:31
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mikereAh, webmin02:31
bill_http://gui.apache.org/02:31
bill_revelater - check that site02:31
Naliothhave to go now02:31
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Naliothneed to install an electric socket02:31
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Naliothhopefully it's not a shocking experience02:32
Naliothbbl (i hope)02:32
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AnguShello!02:32
ablyssquestion: i installed shorewall but it does not have any of the config files in /etc/shorewall This is normal?02:32
owlmanattHi, I'm trying to set up dual-monitors with my nvidia geforce fx 5200. I've got a pair of monitors connected, the nvidia driver installed, and I've setup the xorg conf to use twinview. When I restarted gdm, the login screen was pretty big but on both monitors. When I logged in ans it opened gnome, the second monitor's light turned orange and now it doesn't show anything. What did I do wrong? If you need to see my xorg config, I can put it on the web in02:33
owlmanatt a jiff...02:33
AnguSablyss yes, read the docs in /usr/share/doc/shorewall02:33
revelatercool, i guess that answers my question....02:33
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AnguSi have a problem with ubuntu 5.04... it was running fine until i did 'apt-get install tvtime', the system suddenly froze completelly. now the system freezes all the time i try to login in X. i even removed tvtime but it's no help, the system just freezes completelly while loading gnome :(02:34
AnguSwhat can i do now?02:34
revelaterload fluxbox :P02:34
AnguSwhats that02:35
revelateranother WM02:35
revelatersmaller02:35
revelaterfaster02:35
revelaterconfigurable02:35
revelaterclutter free02:35
ablyssrm .ICAuthority02:35
bill_Anyone help me out?02:36
ablyss.ICEauthory*02:36
revelaterwhat your problem bill_02:36
revelater?02:36
bill_I'm trying to get my wireless working with ndiswrapper.02:36
revelateri have no experience with wireless02:36
bill_But I keep getting this error: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted02:36
revelatersorry02:36
AnguShow come that installing a single silly packages screws up the whole system02:36
revelaterg2g everyone, its geting late02:37
AnguSi can't believe it, such things don't happen in windows02:37
bill_That's okay.  :)  I'm still learning Linux.02:37
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bill_Much better at Windows.  :/02:37
ablyssall the files in /usr/share/docs/shorewall are in gzip format... do i gzip extract them?02:37
anto9usbill_: are you doing issuing modprobe ndiswrapper as root?02:37
natexAnguS, it doesn't, you just don't know how to fix it02:37
AnguShow should i know, it completelly freezes without telling me any kind of error02:37
mockerHere's my run in with windows while switching to linux...02:38
mockerand they wonder why people hate windows02:38
mockerhttp://www.mocker.yankidank.com/02:38
bill_Yeah.  From the root terminal.02:38
natexAnguS, did you look in the error logs?02:38
ablyssAngus, what about fail safe boot02:38
AnguSi can try that02:38
natexAnguS, try the error logs too. they will actually tell you what you need to know.02:39
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bill_anto9us: Yeah.  from the root terminal.02:39
AnguSnatex which error logs... syslog? or are there any others02:39
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runedudeErrors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4-minimal_2.4.1-0_i386.deb02:39
runedudeE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:39
runedude:( whats wrong w/ this?02:39
runedude trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/python2.4', which is also in package python2.402:40
runedudedpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)02:40
anto9usmocker: http://www.sysresccd.org/ is a handy thing to have around02:41
bill_privmsg anto9us Yeah.  from the root terminal.02:41
bill_dammit.02:41
anto9usbill_: you need the kernel headers02:41
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helio7Has anyone used the gnome device manager to submit their system specs to the Ubuntu hardware database?  I'm wondering how long it takes for the "interem page" to actualize into the full datasheet...02:44
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bill_anto9us: do I need the 686 headers?  I'm running a P402:46
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jasmuzhello02:47
anto9usbill_: uname -r will tell you your kernel02:47
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bill_anto9us: I have the right headers.02:48
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mike998hey guys, I'm getting an error from xine when I am trying to play a movie, it says something about mpeg layer 2/3, but I can play mp3s02:49
anto9usbill_:  what is your kernel version?02:49
bill_anto9us: 2.6.10-5-38602:49
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anto9usbill_: you're on hoary?02:49
bill_yes.02:49
mike998any ideas where I can get a hold of the codecs?  I have installed the win32 codec pack02:49
luineancaionAnyone have any idea how I can set dma to always be turned on in ubuntu? Because I was going to put in on a computer for this person that needs theirs fixed but if they want to watch dvds then going hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom is going to problem be to scary for them02:50
spartacusluineancaion, /etc/hdparm.conf02:50
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luineancaionspartacus, awesome, thanks02:50
anto9usbill_: you installed ndiswrapper-source and ndiswrapper-utils?02:50
spartacusmike998, which codecs?02:50
mike998the w32codecs file02:51
spartacusmike998, ok, which app(s)?02:51
mike998xine02:51
bill_anto9us: just utils.02:51
anto9usbill_: install the source too and see what happens02:52
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spartacusmike998, ok. http://xinehq.de/index.php/faq#WMV02:52
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spartacusmike998, basically, install the codecs under /usr/lib/win32, then set the config to point xine in the right direction for them02:53
bill_anto9us: still getting the error.02:53
skullhi can somebody help me02:53
karstenskull: Ask away.02:53
skullwell i ahev a problem02:53
skullmy apt-get doesn' t work02:53
Taliesin`(skull): what error do you get?02:54
skulli have just installed ubuntu 5.0402:54
karstenAre the Ubuntu applications menus static, or are they dynamically updated if new apps are added.  Specifically in this case:  audacity installed out of Universe, didn't show up under multimedia, trying this afternoon.  Warty.02:54
mike998spartacus: I will try, but my xine already points to that directory02:54
anto9usbill_: do you have module-init-tools?02:54
ThomasWinwoodkarsten: killall gnome-panel02:54
aj__skull, Are you typeing sudo before it?02:54
karstenskull: 'sudo apt-get' ...02:54
karstenThomasWinwood: So no dynamic update?02:54
ThomasWinwoodkarsten: No.02:54
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skullYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:02:54
karstenThomasWinwood: ...we didn't try a logout/login, that would have been my next check.02:55
skullwhen i do it it says02:55
karstenThomasWinwood: OK.  WMaker/Debian spoils me ;-)02:55
bill_anto9us: I do.02:55
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ThomasWinwoodI'd rather like it to be dynamic, perhaps with a "refresh menu" option.02:55
anto9usbill_: and module-assistant?02:55
skullE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution)02:55
runedudehi guys i have an  issue which can be found at this url: http://paste.oceanius.com/index.php?show=1002:55
spartacuskarsten, dynamically for me. although some icons need a restart to update02:55
aj__What are you typeing in Skull?02:55
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bill_anto9us: yes.02:55
karstenspartacus: Thanks.  I play intermittantly, use Debian largely.02:56
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spartacusmike998, hmm. if not, mplayer seems to handle win32 well02:56
runedudedoes anyone know the problem?02:56
skulli put apt-get install xmms02:56
runedudehttp://paste.oceanius.com/index.php?show=1002:56
aj__ah...02:56
karstenThought I'd report, though, that at a local tech-oriented HS, we went from bare metal to mixing beats in 1h30m, _including_ swapping out the CD drive when the first didn't work.02:57
aj__Try this.02:57
skullThe following packages have unmet dependencies:02:57
mike998spartacus: okay, I will give mplayer a try02:57
skull  gaim: Depends: libgtkspell0 (>= 2.0.2) but it is not going to be installed02:57
skull  xmms: Depends: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0) but it is not going to be installed02:57
skull        Depends: libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4) but it is not going to be installed02:57
skullE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).02:57
karstenskull: 'apt-get update; apt-get -f install'02:57
ThomasWinwoodskull: Include universe and multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list02:57
skulli did02:57
karstenskull: ...or run 'aptitude' or 'synaptic' interactively.02:57
aj__sudo apt-get install filename02:58
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aj__You need the sudo...02:58
karstenskull: My experience is that the situation you're describing happens if you don't have your sources properly specified and/or updated.02:58
skulli tried  apt-get -f install02:58
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runedudedoes anyone know what the issue with python is?02:58
anto9usbill_: what command are you issuing to load ndiswrapper?02:58
karstenskull: ...paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to the channel the bot just told you about.02:58
JDigitalHey guys, how do I format a hard drive partition?02:59
ThomasWinwoodIs it worth installing kernel 2.6.11?02:59
spartacusJDigital, mkfs.whatever02:59
JDigitalI used to have /mnt/anime as NTFS, so I unmounted it and did this:02:59
JDigital mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/hdd102:59
bill_anto9us: Honestly, I've ried so many different things from the forums, I have no idea.02:59
JDigitalnow what02:59
spartacusJDigital, sounds reasonable... did it not work?02:59
anto9usbill_: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper03:00
bill_that's the one.03:00
JDigitalIt probably worked, but now I'm wondering how I add that back into my mount list03:00
JDigitaland do I need to format it or anything first03:00
anto9usbill_: run it now03:00
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bill_root@NYARLHOTEP:/home/bill # sudo modprobe ndiswrapper FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted03:00
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anto9usbill_: type ndiswrapper -l03:01
spartacusJDigital, ok, mkfs.vfat did the formatting for you (a high level one, most likely). you'll need to edit /etc/fstab to tell the OS you've got vfat instead of ntfs now03:01
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bill_Is it a permission issue on the field?03:01
mike998spartacus: I'm getting errors trying to install mplayer03:01
mebaran151mike998, compile from source03:01
JDigitalah, that's the file03:01
bill_it lists my driver and then says "invalid driver!"03:01
mike998for example "Depends: libavcodeccvs but it is not going to be installed" perhaps a broken package>?03:01
mike998ohhhh compile from source03:02
mike998okay03:02
spartacusmike998, which ones? apt-get mplayer worked for me...03:02
skulldeb http://do.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted03:02
skulldeb-src http://do.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted03:02
skull## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the03:02
skull## distribution.03:02
skulldeb http://do.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted03:02
skulldeb-src http://do.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted03:02
skull## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network03:02
skulldeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted03:02
skulldeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted03:02
mebaran151mike998, mplayer is much better from source03:02
owlmanattIs there any way to left-align a desktop background in gnome? I have this one I've always used, but now that I have two monitors, its being split if I center it, or strenched and mangled if I full-screen it.03:02
skull## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced03:02
mebaran151you can weed out the crappy gui03:02
skull## after the final release of the distribution.03:02
skulldeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted03:02
spartacusmike998, but mebaran is correct03:02
mike998spartacus: I tried 386, 596, custom and none worked03:02
skulldeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted03:02
skull## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'03:02
skull## repository.03:02
skull## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu03:02
JDigitaluh oh03:02
skull## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to03:02
Lickero.O03:02
skull## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in03:02
mebaran151and add in extra codecs03:02
skull## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security03:02
mike998mebaran, I will try03:02
skull## team.03:02
anto9usbill_: what is your card?03:02
skulldeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe03:02
JDigitalthis reminds me of what happened earlier03:02
skulldeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe03:02
skulldeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted03:02
mebaran151mike998, it is easy03:02
skulldeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted03:02
kyncaniskull: stop flooding03:02
mebaran151skull, stop flooding03:02
skulldeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe03:02
spartacusskull, don't do that agai03:02
skulldeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe03:02
skulldeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse03:03
JDigitalhe can't stop it03:03
skulldeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse03:03
skulldeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main03:03
skulldeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main03:03
Lickerhe pasted..03:03
skulldeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat testing main03:03
Licker:/03:03
skulldeb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe mu ltiverse restricted03:03
mebaran151argh03:03
skulldeb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-ex03:03
JDigitalhe can't stop it until it's finished03:03
Lickerskull hit the eXit03:03
mebaran151anyway mike998, you can even make a custom debian pkg03:03
Licker:p03:03
JDigitalWait, is this the same guy who did this earlier today?03:03
mike998there's a how-to on the forums, i will check it out03:03
mebaran151no03:03
FalkenI am trying to write an Iso file to CD... but when I right click it, it turns back into a bittorrents file and I loose the option to write it to CD as an ISO...  Does anybody know what I might be doing wrong?03:03
mebaran151it is not hard03:03
mebaran151just dll the source03:03
mebaran151and sudo debian/rules binary03:03
mebaran151after ./configure03:03
anto9usbill_: what wifi card do you have?03:03
bill_anto9us: bcm4306 broadcom adapter.03:03
FalkenShould I not change the .corrent extension to ISO?03:03
spartacusmike998, or dpkg-build -b -us -uc ?03:04
Lickeris there anyone in here with some time to help me install something.03:04
Licker?03:04
spartacusLicker, depends what it is...03:04
anto9usbill_: and what driver did you choose?03:04
mike998hmmm I was looking at that today03:04
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bill_bcmwl503:04
skullcan somebody help me03:04
spartacusFalken, how big is the file?03:04
bill_anto9us: should I try the bcwl5a driver?03:04
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anto9usbill_: you need bcmwl5a03:04
rj__anyone know how to get firefox to download torrent files using Azureus?03:05
FalkenUmmm, 50 KB.03:05
JDigitalfalken: are you sure you aren't clicking on the torrent file03:05
bill_HOw do I drop the one and add the other?03:05
JDigitalwhich would be the one ending in .torrent03:05
anto9usbill_: use ndiswrapper -e bcmwl5 to remove the other03:05
spartacusFalken, then it aint the iso ;)03:05
bill_I have it on my laptop already.03:05
helio7has anyone submitted data to the Ubuntu Hardware Database?03:05
JDigitalfilename.ISO.torrent03:05
JDigitalor filename.iso and it's really a torrent file misnamed03:05
FalkenWell, when I downloaded, it showed up as a torrent...03:05
FalkenSo how do I make it ISO?03:05
spartacusFalken, you shouldn't need to rename anything... when the torrent is launched with bittorrent, it'll get the actual iso from peers03:06
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FalkenSo I have a problem with my bit torrents program?03:06
mebaran151I am having a printer problem03:06
mebaran151I recompiled Gimp print from source03:07
mebaran151the new version 5.003:07
mebaran151so that I could use by new shiny R80003:07
mebaran151supported in 5.003:07
mebaran151but I keep getting an error complaining that it can not access the device03:07
mebaran151that the device does not exist03:07
mebaran151even after cups lets me set it up03:07
bill_anto9us:03:07
bill_root@NYARLHOTEP:/home/bill # ndiswrapper -i /home/bill/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5a.inf03:08
bill_Installing bcmwl5a03:08
bill_Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|203:08
bill_Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|203:08
bill_Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|203:08
bill_Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|203:08
bill_Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|203:08
bill_Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|203:08
bill_Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|203:08
bill_Forcing parameter IBSSGMode|0 to IBSSGMode|203:08
thundrcleezebill?03:08
bill_root@NYARLHOTEP:/home/bill # modprobe ndiswrapper03:08
kyncani(not again)03:08
bill_FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted03:08
spartacusFalken, mmm... maybe not. try a terminal, then type btdownloadgui.py yourfile.iso.torrent03:08
kyncaniSEND FLOOD TO #FLOOD03:08
Marble2how can I set the background on my default gnome-terminal to a picture03:08
thundrcleezebill_, go to #flood with that or post it to pastebin.com03:08
anto9usbill_: don't flood here please. Now what does ndiswrapper -l give you?03:09
FalkenMyfile... that being the destination?03:09
bill_Apologies everyone.03:09
FalkenOh, the scource.03:09
spartacusFalken, yep, the source torrent file03:09
FalkenHow do I know what that is?03:09
spartacusFalken, it's the one you downloaded03:09
FalkenYeah, but it's not on my machine...03:10
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bill_anto9us:  bcmwl5a invalid driver!03:10
FalkenIt's from a linux site...03:10
owlmanattIs there any way to left-align a desktop background in gnome? I have this one I've always used, but now that I have two monitors, its being split if I center it, or strenched and mangled if I full-screen it.03:10
spartacusFalken, yes it is? the one you said you could click... the bigdiskimage.iso.torrent03:10
spartacusthe 50k one03:10
anto9usbill_: you have the latest driver?03:10
FalkenSo I can use the one I have?03:10
FalkenThe torrents file on my comp?03:11
bill_anto9us:  I think so.  I downloaded it from my laptop manufacturer's site.03:11
FalkenOk... I'll try that.03:11
spartacusFalken, yes. tell btdownloadcurses.py (bittorrent downloader) to use that one03:11
anto9usbill_: what's your laptop?03:11
spartacusit'll get the real/big one then03:11
spartacusmebaran151, sometimes cups offers a device that doesn't seem real... eg usb printers03:11
bill_anto9us:  hp zd7030us03:12
helio7where can I probe my system specifications to post along with errors on a forum thread???03:12
bill_anto9us:  hp pavilion zd7030us03:12
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warty_FUCK03:12
anto9usbill_: I sent my dell driver to someone with an hp pavillion earlier, that worked. Want me to send it to you?03:12
spartacushelio7, depends on the issue, but dmesg is often used as a reference.03:13
junior_evening all. new ubuntu user here, i got my video drivers working using the nvidia drivers. but now i cant seem to play a dvd in totem03:13
junior_even install libdvdcss203:13
LarstiQwarty_: pardon me?03:13
mebaran151spartacus, it is a usb printer03:13
bill_anto9us: That works for me.  : ) Thanks for all of your help.03:13
mebaran151but the usb printer is detected correct03:13
mebaran151and /dev/usb/lp0 exists03:13
spartacusmebaran151, that is the cups uri?03:13
mebaran151I dont know03:13
FalkenIt says I don't have a btdownloadgui.py file...03:13
mebaran151I believe so03:13
spartacusFalken, ok. make sure you have bittorrent installed in synaptic03:14
FalkenIt's not in synaptic... I used sudo apt-get install...03:14
FalkenHow can I get it in synaptic?03:14
mebaran151it tries to use usb://03:14
mebaran151Paused: Unable to open USB device "usb://EPSON/Stylus%20Photo%20R800": No such device03:15
spartacusFalken, same thing, different interface. synaptic is in the admin menu03:15
mebaran151%20 is a space I would imagine based on previous experience03:15
mebaran151I dont feel like becoming a gimp print hacker03:15
spartacusyep03:15
anto9usbill_: just to double check, you were specifying the bcmwl5a.inf file weren't you?03:15
spartacusbrb03:16
FalkenSo what I did still works?03:16
bill_anto9us:  Yes.03:16
bill_anto9us:  Is that correct?03:16
anto9usbill_: yes03:16
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runedudehmm, it seems debian > ubuntu upgrade doesnt exactly work too well03:17
karstenrunedude: Well, it's not supported.03:18
darkauditchillywilly: did you try the backports repo?03:18
karstenDoes Ubuntu install with any sort of newbie shell guide?03:18
stuNNedrunedude: backup and fresh install?03:18
bob2karsten: no03:18
stuNNedkarsten: bash guide?03:18
karstenstuNNed: Yeah.03:18
runedudestuNNed: well i had gaim and xchat and firefox other things installed so not a fresh install03:19
stuNNedkarsten: o'reily books has good one03:19
karstenstuNNed: Again, classroom.  I'm experienced.03:19
runedudei did a install of sarge, thats the problem03:19
karstenstuNNed: Yeah, I know ;-)03:19
karstenstuNNed: ...but I was sort of reduced to saying "the help command is intuitively named 'man'".03:19
stuNNedkarsten: hehe :)03:19
karstenstuNNed: ...and _trust_ me (or ask bob2) I know why and love it.03:19
runedudestuNNed: do you really need a fresh install?03:19
karstenstuNNed: Followed up with "it's short for manual..."03:20
stuNNedrunedude: welp, i migrated from warty to hoary on laptop and not that i had issues but things seemed to go alot smoother on a fresh install from cd03:20
runedudestuNNed: what i meant was, im not using warty :P03:20
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karstenstuNNed: ...had one kid who knew how to run a command.  He suggested 'cls'.03:20
runedudeI have CDrom issues, I cant "make" cdroms, i can use them, but i cant burn them03:20
runedudeso when I want linux, i gotta use floppies w/ a netinstall03:21
karstenrunedude: What are you running now?03:21
stuNNedmdz: apparently the local firewall solutions i was trying were blocking ACK packets back to the DHCP server, regarding bug #10090, still testing though03:21
runedudeUnfortunatly, I cannot find many good support w/ any other things except debian03:21
runedudewell, debian sarge03:21
karstenrunedude: ...and is it a SW issue, or your burner?03:21
karstenrunedude: cdrecord.03:21
runedudewell03:21
runedudei have a burner, but it </3s me03:21
runedudeill try cdrecord, 1 sec03:21
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runedudelol03:22
runedudeits a hp cd-writer 9500 series03:22
runedudehm03:22
karstenrunedude: cdrecord --scanbus03:22
runedudecan i write a iso directly to the cd?03:22
stuNNedkarsten: the bash manpage is quite helpful, we had a whole class just on bash at one point, or most of the class, at least03:22
karstenrunedude: Yes, that's the recommended route.03:22
runedudemust be root?03:22
runedudeill assume so :p03:23
karstenstuNNed: The bash manpage really isn't a shell users guide.03:23
runedudecdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.03:23
karstenrunedude: ...or user w/ RW access to the device.  Try 'sudo ...'03:23
runedudeheh03:23
runeduderoots easier03:23
stuNNedkarsten: book we used was called 'interactive guide to bash' or something03:23
runedudeanyways, i got that error03:23
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karstenstuNNed: I'll hunt around.  Just hoping there was something on the distro already.03:24
karstenroot=/dev/hda2 ro vga=6 noapic hdc=ide-scsi03:24
runedudewhats /dev/pg?03:24
karstenrunedude: Above is my GRUB boot line.03:24
bill_anto9us:  I've got it. :)03:24
runedudedo I need to install something else now?03:24
anto9usbill_: I suggest you keep that folder in its entirety, I don't know how much of it is required03:24
runedudewhat do i need to add a bootline for grub now? :P03:24
karstenrunedude: ...you may want the 'hdc=ide-scsi' line.  And a couple of modules...03:24
bill_Okay.  Any suggestions on where to put it?03:24
runedudeoh03:24
runedudeok03:24
FalkenReading Package Lists... Done03:24
FalkenBuilding Dependency Tree... Done03:24
FalkenPackage libwxgtk2.4-python is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:24
FalkenThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or03:24
Falkenis only available from another source03:24
karstenrunedude: ide-scsi03:24
FalkenE: Package libwxgtk2.4-python has no installation candidate03:24
anto9usbill_:  /opt/03:25
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karstenbill_: Um.  What's "it" and what do you plan to do with it?03:25
runedudeehm03:25
FalkenThis is what I get when I try to type: sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-python bittorrent03:25
runedudewhich file do I put the boot line in?03:25
anto9usbill_: doesn't matter too much03:25
karstenFalken: Need universe?03:25
FalkenUniverse?03:25
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FalkenWhat's that?03:25
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karstenbill_: Non-packages SW, generally /usr/local or /opt, which I symlink to /usr/local/opt/03:25
runedudewell, /dev/pg* doesnt exist, isnt that a issue I need to fix?03:26
spartacusre03:26
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spartacusFalken, try the package from www.bittorrent.com03:26
karstenrunedude: Modify your bootloader line.  Add 'hdc=ide-scsi'.  Modify /etc/modules to load 'ide-scsi'.  Reboot.03:26
GammaRayI remember a long time ago I has a font named Terminal that shipped with mandrake. Does that ring a bell with anyone?03:26
spartacusmebaran151, it's talking to the wrong device03:26
karstenGammaRay: No, \a rings a bell.03:27
mebaran151I think03:27
mebaran151how do I make it talk to the write one then03:27
FalkenI got it from there Spartacus...03:27
runedudeehm, how do I edit the bootline again?03:27
spartacusmebaran151, the literal name it's giving you is virtual. you'll want to change it to /dev/usb/lp003:27
spartacusor something03:27
spartacusrunedude, /boot/grub/menu.lst?03:27
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runedudeand how do I know hdc is the correct drive #?03:27
spartacusFalken, ah ok...03:27
anto9usbill_: run ndiswrapper -i <path to bcmwl5a.inf> then run ndiswrapper -l03:27
mebaran151how would I do that03:27
GammaRaykarsten, not on my box :-P03:27
mebaran151go to cups admin03:27
mebaran151or something03:27
karstenrunedude: /boot/grub/menu.lst03:27
runedudeok03:27
afromanhi03:28
karstenGammaRay: I was *hoping* someone would get that joke...03:28
runedudedo I need to edit the bootlist?03:29
afromananyone can help me transfer files from my pc to another using ethernet03:29
runedudeIt's kind of confusing03:29
runedudeI really dont want to mess anything up :S03:29
karstenafroman: Any protocol in particular?03:29
FalkenDid I grab the wrong one?  Should I have gotten the Debian?03:29
GammaRaykarsten, I ripped the pc speaker out03:29
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karstenGammaRay: Heh.03:29
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afromankarsten: none that I know of...03:29
afromanI'm new03:29
karstenafroman: FTP, SCP, rsync, http, netcat, nfs, smb, ...03:29
karstenafroman: ...take your pick.03:29
spartacusFalken, that might be the problem. open synaptic, and make sure you've got universe enabled. get bittorrent-gui03:30
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karstenafroman: What's your local system, what's the remote system?03:30
spartacusFalken, or even just bittorrent03:30
karstenspartacus: Point.03:30
afromankarsten: I have stationary that has Ubuntu and a laptop that has Debian and Windows03:30
helio7runedude: I've been working for a while on the same issue; I'm desperately trying to piece together the loss of burning capabilities since Hoary;03:30
karstenafroman: Will you be wanting to transfer files frequently?03:30
runedudeshould I just add hdc=ide-scsi anywhere in the menu.lst for grub?03:30
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FalkenNiether show up in there...03:31
spartacusmebaran151, yah, i usually use the web intereface... but ymmv03:31
karstenrunedude: What's your bootloader, grub?03:31
spartacusFalken, sounds like you need to add repositories03:31
FalkenI did a search for them... and looked at where they might have been...03:31
afromankarsten: I want to know to transfer Linux to Linux, and Linux to Windows... protocal won't matter, just tell me the easiest03:31
karstenrunedude: You should have a kopt line,  Mine reads:  # kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=6 noapic hdc=ide-scsi03:31
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Lickerhow do you check your pcs IP addy?03:31
runedudekarsten: hmm, i think so03:31
XenguyLicker: ifconfig03:31
karstenrunedude: Note the '#'.  'update-grub' will generate the correct file from that.03:31
spartacusFalken, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/net/bittorrent03:32
runedudeok03:32
Lickerso what would I ype in the termanul03:32
karstenafroman: Easiest would be to set up a share on the linux system and access that from other hosts.03:32
spartacusFalken, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/net/bittorrent-gui03:32
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Lickerhumm.. bad spellng03:32
spartacusthey're there for sure03:32
XenguyLicker: ifconfig ;-)03:32
bill_anto9us:  Almost there.  Got a "driver present, hardware present"03:32
FalkenThanks... does it matter that I'm using warty and not hoary?03:32
Lickerthat didnt work03:32
karstenafroman: Otherwise, you can put the files on your webserver ($HOME/public_html/ or /var/www/), or scp them between systems.03:32
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anto9usbill, cool, do you have wireless-tools installed?03:32
spartacusum, yes. :)03:32
XenguyLicker: it's ubu - maybe you need 'sudo ifconfig'  ?03:33
mebaran151spartacus03:33
Lickernope tried that too03:33
afromankarsten: U mean like a soort of server03:33
afroman??03:33
spartacusFalken, http://packages.ubuntu.com/warty/net/bittorrent03:33
mebaran151the web interface dictates it has been disabled for security purposes03:33
mebaran151what do I do03:33
karstenafroman: Speak english please.03:33
XenguyLicker: it works (that's all I'm gonna say ;-)03:33
FalkenThanks.03:33
afromankarsten: U mean like a sort of server03:33
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bill_anto9us:  Yes I do.03:34
anto9usbill_: type iwconfig03:34
karstenafroman: You'll need a server running in general.  Web, SSH, FTP, Sambe...03:34
karstens/Sambe/Samba/03:34
mebaran151anyother way to configure it03:34
anto9usbill_: it should list wlan003:35
karstenafroman: SSH lets you copy individual files back and forth:  scp localfile user@remotehost:file03:35
afromankarsten: ok... let's take step by step03:35
spartacusmebaran151, make sure it's enabled in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf03:35
sbcl3is there an easy way to drag icons that lead to apps to the desktop?03:35
GammaRayAnyone know any monospace fonts that look good using the bytecode interperter?03:35
sbcl3where is the tool?03:35
FalkenIt says that It can't open the .deb file...03:35
spartacusmebaran151, or you can edit /etc/cups/printers.conf03:35
karstenafroman: ... FTP is sort of similar.  HTTP lets you stage files and copy them from the server but not the other way, without a few tricks.03:35
bill_anto9us:  It's not on there.  Do I need to run modprobe?03:35
spartacusmebaran151, prolly wants something like DeviceURI usb:/dev/usb/lp003:35
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karstenafroman: ...and a remote filesystem (samba, NFS) lets you access the remote files like any other, pretty much.03:35
anto9usbill_: no, only need to do that once03:36
karstencafuego: Wups, fly's down.03:36
karstencafuego: Greets.03:36
anto9usbill_: type ifconfig wlan003:36
afromankarsten: I'm a beginer, plz take it slow03:36
bill_anto9us:  okay, I ran modprobe, then re-ran iwconfig, and it shows now.03:36
afromankarsten: I have files in Windows, how do I transfer them to Linux03:36
karstenafroman: Explain what you want to do, and how often.  You've got some choices to make.  My suggestion remains that you should set up a samba share.03:36
karstenafroman: ...which will let you copy files (command line, Windows Explorer, other tools) without thinking about it.03:37
anto9usbill_: aah, sorry, also type ndiswrapper -m03:37
jackmacokcafroman: i prefer to have a fat partition on my hard drive to transfer files to and from linux from windows03:37
karstenafroman: See above wrt "how do I transfer..."03:37
spartacusFalken, you should be able to download it (wget http://...) then dpkg -i ...deb03:37
afromanno, I mean between 2 pcs03:37
anto9usbill_: that makes it so the module will load on boot up03:38
bill_anto9us:  Do I still need to use the ifconfig?03:38
karstenafroman: Install samba-server03:38
afromankarsten: no, I mean between 2 pcs03:38
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jackmacokcafroman: tons of options..samba server is easiest probably03:38
karstenafroman: Install samba-server03:38
cafuegokarsten: when did you defect?03:38
anto9usbill_: type iwconfig essid <ESSID>03:38
FalkenK03:38
karstencafuego: I'm not defecting.03:38
bill_anto9us:  "modprobe config already contains alias directive"03:38
spartacusFalken, actulyl, no, sorry... i'm wrong there. was thinking of debian. apt-get install bittorrent should work03:38
karstencafuego: It's called excremeditation.03:38
anto9usbill_: sorry iwconfig wlan0 essid <your essid>03:38
spartacusif not, your sources list is broken03:38
karstencafuego: I've been playing with Ubuntu a bit.  I run Debian.  n00bs get Ubuntu.03:39
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bill_anto9us:  my essid says "off/any"03:39
afromanin apt-get I see many... wot do U recommand03:39
karstenafroman: Actually, it's just 'samba'.03:39
afromankarsten: in apt-get I see many... wot do U recommand03:39
anto9usbill_: fine, type dhclient wlan003:39
ThomasWinwoodI got Ubuntu because I was advised it had an easier-to-handle installation routine.03:39
karstenafroman: 'aptitude install samba'03:39
jackmacokcsamba-server i believe is what you need to get afroman03:39
mebaran151how do I make virtual devs work03:40
FalkenOk...03:40
FalkenI think I see what I did wrong...03:40
mebaran151mplayer has a bug03:40
karstenjackmacokc: Just plain 'samba'.  Client side is, um, different.03:40
mebaran151but I dont want to report03:40
mebaran151it03:40
mebaran151because I am lazy03:40
karstencafuego: How about yourself?03:40
mebaran151it searchs for srt files after it loads vobsubs03:40
mebaran151that shouldnt happen03:40
spartacusmebaran151, no clue about that. i just send cups to the actual printer device. i had issues with my one disconnecting at odd times03:40
bill_anto9us:  it's running dhcpdiscover, but the subnet mask is wrong I think.03:40
mebaran151and causes gmplayer to throw an error03:40
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mebaran151spartacus03:41
anto9usbill_: no, ignore that03:41
mebaran151could you tell me what03:41
jackmacokckarsten: oh yeah, my bad03:41
mebaran151/etc/cups/printers.conf says03:41
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mebaran151paste in #flood03:41
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anto9usbill_: you need to set your router to discover mode03:41
spartacusspeaknig of mplayer... how does one enabled xv? i've tried xorg and xaccel, but only get x11 output03:41
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mebaran151it is already enabled03:41
mebaran151most likely03:41
bob2your card would have to be rather impressively old to not have xv03:41
mebaran151you have to compile it into mplayer03:42
bill_anto9us:  okay.  just a sec.03:42
bob2like, from 194703:42
karstenbob2: 1942, damnit.03:42
mebaran151bob2, my card from 1947 has XV03:42
bob2mebaran151: except that every binary build in the world includes it03:42
spartacusi mean, i can tell it -vo xv but no joy. it's radeon 925003:42
mebaran151oh03:42
cafuegoI have a pre-WW2 card without XV.03:42
FalkenE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:42
FalkenE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:42
mebaran151the mencoder binary build is buggy03:42
mebaran151really really really really really buggy03:42
stuNNedhi cafuego03:42
bob2spartacus: how do you know it's not using it?03:42
spartacusmebaran151, can you paste again03:42
mebaran151not even funny03:42
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FalkenGave me that when I tried to apt-get the file...03:42
bob2Falken: run it as root...03:42
spartacusbob2, it tells me it's using x11 output03:42
bob2Falken: ie with sudo03:42
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sidjphow i can install amule in ubuntu?03:43
mebaran151spartacus, I want YOURS!03:43
mebaran151hehehe03:43
karstenbob2: What's Ubuntu's default SMB browser?03:43
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karstenafroman: Still here?03:43
FalkenI did... I typed sudo apt-get install /home/aj/bittorrent_3-1.4.2-1_all.deb03:43
bob2karsten: nautilus, I guess03:43
karstenafroman: Launch your file manager.03:43
karstenbob2: OK.03:43
FalkenThen entered the sudo password...03:43
bob2sidjp: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto03:43
bob2Falken: that won't work...03:43
cafuegoFalken: *your* password03:43
bob2Falken: and you do know bittorrent is in ubuntu, right?03:43
afromankarsten: ya but I seem to have a problem installing SAmba03:43
bob2Falken: ie, sudo apt-get install bittorrent03:43
sidjpis same debian?03:43
karstenafroman: OK, let's try something else.03:44
FalkenOk...03:44
afromanhold on03:44
karstenafroman: Launch your file manager.  'nautilus'.03:44
xMaximexHi, I have a BIG problem. I removed my windows HD from my PC, changed to hd0 in menu.lst, changed /etc/fstab too but when i boot i get :03:44
spartacusmebaran151, can you paste your file?03:44
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xMaximexpivot_root: No such file or directory03:44
xMaximex/sbin/init: 424: cannot open dev/console: No such file03:44
xMaximexKernel panic: Attempted to kill init!03:44
xMaximexcan someone help me please ?? I must boot .. i work with my pc03:44
FalkenSame error...03:44
karstenxMaximex: Jumpers correct?03:44
bob2you'd need to change all the instances in the grub config file to hd003:44
bill_anto9us:  what am I looking for here?03:44
karstenxMaximex: ...and is the drive detected in BIOS?03:45
xMaximexkarsten: i moved jumper for the hd to become master03:45
karstenbob2: I think he did that.03:45
xMaximexkarsten: yes, it is detected as primary master03:45
karstenxMaximex: Confirm the drive is detected in BIOS, just to rule it out.03:45
karstenxMaximex: OK.03:45
anto9usbill_: you need to set your essid and a key if you have wep enabled03:45
afromankarsten: I installed Samba03:45
afromanwot now???03:45
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metalsandWHen I download a package that has documentation03:46
karstenxMaximex: GRUB starts, but kernel fails.  So you're going to want to manually edit your grub config on next boot.03:46
metalsandWhere does it go... When I download with synaptic03:46
bill_anto9us:  No WEP.  I was usingMAC address for security.03:46
karstenafroman: OK, actually, I'm going to try something a little different, but we can use that later.03:46
FalkenE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:46
FalkenE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:46
anto9usbill_: the format is iwconfig wlan0 essid <your network name>03:46
xMaximexkarsten, i boot with the install CD in rescue mode03:46
karstenafroman: As I've asked three times:  start your file manager, nautilus.03:46
spartacusFalken, sudo03:46
afromankarsten: done03:46
bill_anto9us:  But I turned that off, too.03:46
karstenxMaximex: OK.03:46
xMaximexkarsten: i'm in rescue mode right now03:46
FalkenHeres what I'm entering...03:46
spartacusFalken, and make sure synaptic is closed03:46
karstenafroman: What's your Windows system's IP address?03:46
xMaximexso i can edit any files03:46
metalsandWhen I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?03:46
anto9usbill_: is it set as a dhcp server?03:47
afroman192.168.1.303:47
karstenxMaximex: OK.  What's 'root' set to?03:47
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spartacusmebaran151, i've pasted it now03:47
afromankarsten: 192.168.1.303:47
FalkenOk... now it says that it can't find bittorrent...03:47
karstenafroman: Enter:  "smb://192.168.1.3/" in the nautilus nav box.03:47
xMaximextitle Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-38603:47
xMaximex#:2 <-- type: 0 => linux, 1 => windows, 2 => other03:47
xMaximexroot            (hd0,0)03:47
xMaximexkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hdb1 ro quiet splash03:47
xMaximexinitrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-38603:47
xMaximexsavedefault03:47
bill_anto9us:  Yes.03:47
xMaximexboot03:47
karstenxMaximex: Change 'root=/dev/hdb1' to 'root=/dev/hda1'03:48
karstenxMaximex: on "kernel" line.03:48
anto9usbill_: does iwconfig see the access point03:48
afromankarsten: how?? it is a window manager...03:48
xMaximexkarsten, ok i try, brb03:48
junior_is there an easy way to add an app to the Applications menu? i just install gxine but it doesnt show up there03:48
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spartacusFalken, sorry... what did you type?03:48
karstenafroman: It's also a file manager.  Launch your file manager.03:48
Falkensudo apt-get install bittorrent03:48
karstenjunior_: 'killall gnome-panel' I think.03:48
karstenjunior_: ...or log out and back in.03:48
hybrid_gothhello all03:49
afromankarsten: how?? I only see my files in root03:49
bill_anto9us:  I think so.  I enter in the command you gave me, and I don't get an error message.03:49
junior_karsten, still doesnt show up. wierd03:49
karstenjunior_: Sorry, contsxt?03:49
karstenjunior_: Oh, new apps.03:50
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karstenjunior_: Hrm.  Ask bob2, he knows everything ;-)03:50
xMaximexkarsten, it works .. i didn't see this line ...03:50
FalkenI've also tried... the entire file name(with and w/o the location) , sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-python bittorrent03:50
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spartacusFalken, sudo apt-get update03:50
xMaximexkarsten: thanks !03:50
anto9usbill_: iwconfig should list an access point with its mac address03:50
spartacusFalken, just to be sure03:50
calvin123i have a question....03:50
junior_is bob2 around?03:50
FalkenDone03:50
karstenxMaximex: OK.  That's how you transfer files ;-)03:50
HrdwrBoBhah03:50
karstenxMaximex: Sorted then?03:50
spartacusFalken, ok... try that again03:50
calvin123why are the ubuntu cds free?03:50
HrdwrBoBjunior_: menu-editor03:51
FalkenReading Package Lists... Done03:51
FalkenBuilding Dependency Tree... Done03:51
FalkenE: Couldn't find package bittorrent03:51
caffinatedcalvin123: to make you ask why they are free03:51
bill_anto9us:  Listening on LPF/wlan0/00:90:4b:47:c0:9603:51
junior_hrdwrBoB is that an app or a command line command03:51
spartacusFalken, can u past your sources list to #flood please03:51
calvin123caffinated, right03:51
akpHi, I'm running Hoary Hedgehog on a Powerbook.  Is this the right place to ask questions?03:51
FalkenI typed... sudo apt-get install bittorrent03:51
bill_Sending on   LPF/wlan0/00:90:4b:47:c0:9603:51
HrdwrBoBwget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb03:51
HrdwrBoBsudo dpkg -i smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb03:51
karstenxMaximex: If you want to be able to copy _from_ your Linux box when you're on Windows, you'll need to set up one or more shares in Samba.  Read the docs for that.03:51
HrdwrBoBjunior_: there03:51
mebaran151thanks03:51
HrdwrBoBhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor03:51
mebaran151spartacus03:51
bill_anto9us: Sending on   LPF/wlan0/00:90:4b:47:c0:9603:51
karstenxMaximex: Damnit, wrong nick ;-)03:51
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karstenxMaximex: OK, you can boot, right?03:51
junior_thanks, ill go read bob03:51
junior_thanks, ill read bob03:51
mebaran151can I use motion compensation in mplayer03:52
spartacusFalken, the contents of /etc/apt/sources.lst03:52
bill_anto9us: Is that what I'm looking for?03:52
mebaran151I have a nice Nivida 680003:52
xMaximexkarsten: yes i can ! thanks you03:52
anto9usbill_: I think you should enabale essid on your access point03:52
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caffinatedcalvin123: it's a marketing thing.  the easiest way to get a large group of people to try something is to make it 1) easy and 2) take no effort to acquire03:52
spartacusmebaran151, ya?03:52
afromankarsten: r you still there??? I wrote nautilus in the terminal and there opened the window manager03:52
FalkenWhat's #flood?03:52
karstenafroman: Still here.03:52
karstenafroman: Good.03:52
caffinatedcalvin123: but also because some people don't have broadband03:52
spartacusFalken, /join #flood :)03:52
karstenafroman: smb://<ip of windows box>/03:52
bill_anto9us: Is that the same as "Wireless SSID"?03:52
calvin123caffinated, oh ok, thanks03:52
FalkenOh... duh.03:52
afromankarsten: in the terminal...???03:52
karstenafroman: In natilus's nav window.03:53
henriquemaiaHello.03:53
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spartacusdumbass question here... how does one kill an unkillable process? kill -9 doesn't do it03:53
anto9usbill_: yes, and use the command iwconfig wlan0 essid <Wireless SSID>03:53
henriquemaiaHow do I get a global menu on top like macOS on gnome?03:53
karstenspartacus: Zombie?03:53
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henriquemaiaIs it possible?03:53
karstenspartacus: ps uxp <PID of unkillable process>03:53
xMaximexawww back on my bos03:53
xMaximexbox03:53
FalkenIt says that there is no such file.03:53
karstenxMaximex: welcome back ;-)03:54
metalsandWhen I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?03:54
caffinatedhenriquemaia: right-click on top bar, add to panel, locate the menu item03:54
meuserjAlright.. I have a REALLY weird apt problem on a hoary system... google is returning nothing when I search for the error or part of the error....03:54
Falken/etc/apt/sources.lst: No such file or directory03:54
henriquemaiahumm.03:54
spartacusFalken, really? hmm... does ubuntu put sources somewhere else?03:54
henriquemaiacool03:54
henriquemaiaGonna try right now!03:54
caffinated:)03:54
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FalkenI don't know...03:54
meuserjI apologize for the multi-line I'm about to send:03:54
afromankarsten: I only have 1 ethernet card... so I might need to get offline for this03:54
meuserjFailed to exec method /cdrom03:54
meuserjeggy: Archive directory /partial is missing.03:55
meuserjeggy: Method cdrom has died unexpectedly!03:55
meuserjeggy: Method /cdrom did not start correctly03:55
meuserjeggy: The method driver /http could not be found.03:55
meuserjeggy: The method driver /ftp could not be found.03:55
meuserjeggy: The method driver /ftp could not be found.03:55
meuserjeggy: The method driver /ftp could not be found.03:55
meuserjeggy: The method driver /http could not be found.03:55
karstenspartacus: sources are stored in cwd.03:55
Absenthok, so this webcam stuff, is pretty, um, third world... if you ask me.03:55
Xenguybye03:55
metalsandWhen I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?03:55
bill_anto9us: Still nothing.  The light for my wireless card is still off.  Could that have something to do with this?03:55
afromankarsten: but how should I proceed if it works???03:55
spartacuskarsten, cwd?03:55
anto9usbill_: no03:55
metalsandWhen I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?03:55
meuserjErr.. "eggy" is "E" for error.03:55
FalkenIt has the apt-get on it's website... so I don't know why it doesn't work...03:55
karstenmeuserj: Run 'dmesg' and look for any disk read errors.03:55
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karstenspartacus: current working directory.03:55
metalsandWhen I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?03:55
meuserjkarsten: nothing03:55
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spartacusoh, i mean, the sources list03:56
mebaran151spartacus03:56
afromankarsten:???03:56
caffinatedmeuserj: /var/cache/apt/archives03:56
mebaran151it dicatates permission has been denied03:56
caffinatedi think, anyway03:56
stuNNed] /win 203:56
stuNNedoops sorry guys03:56
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drcodehi all03:56
FalkenI don't know...03:56
karstenafroman: Well, whichever way it goes, let me know.03:56
metalsandWhen I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?03:56
drcodeIs there xdcm client in linux?03:56
FalkenHere is where I started...03:56
Falkenhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BitTorrent03:56
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karstenmeuserj: Hrm.  Where are you right now?  Install?03:56
afromankarsten: but wot might happen??03:56
drcodeSo I can remote my xserver?03:56
karstenmeuserj: Also:  paste to #flood03:56
spartacuskarsten, i ran ps uxp ... and got a list of processes. they're not "Z" but "D"03:57
akpoffakp -> akpoff03:57
meuserjkarsten: it's a machine that has been installed and ran fine for months.03:57
metalsandWhen I download a file with Synaptic where is it stored?03:57
karstenafroman: I'll trust you to figure it out.  If it works you'll either get a listing of shares, or you'll be prompted for a username/password.03:57
karstenafroman: If it doesn't, plug in here and ask.03:57
meuserjmetalsand: /var/cache/apt/archives/03:57
caffinatedinteresting, i thought i just said that03:58
afromankarsten: aight... thx a lot03:58
caffinatedah, wrong person03:58
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metalsand;)03:58
afromanlater03:58
drcodehow I can remte control xserver from linux?03:58
karstenmeuserj: OK.  Can you access/mount CD?  What are you trying to do?03:58
drcodein windows there is cygwin and in linux?03:58
metalsandAlright, next question. I see the deb located that I downloaded, but it's "documentation", how do I read it03:58
henriquemaiaI mean... I was looking for a bar of every program on top.03:59
FalkenK, whereis returns scources: and find returns that they don't exist...03:59
stuNNedwill there be some generic firewalling solution for ubuntu that could possibly be in universe, something similar to lokkit for fedora?03:59
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henriquemaiafile edit bla bla03:59
meuserjkarsten: the error comes up when I try to run apt-get/synaptic/aptitude..03:59
karstenCan someone confirm (I'm not on Ubuntu) that the "Places" menu is on the top GNOME panel by default, warty:  http://www.theopencd.org/ubuntu/img/ubuntu2.png03:59
henriquemaiaon top03:59
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henriquemaialike macOS03:59
meuserjkarsten: regaurdless what I do03:59
karstendrcode: Define "remote control"03:59
drcodeI need to download it?03:59
spartacusFalken, that's your problem. you need a new sources list04:00
karstenmeuserj: You're using CD sources in /etc/apt/sources.list?04:00
metalsandAlright, next question. I see the deb located that I downloaded, but it's "documentation", how do I read it04:00
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Falken... Ok04:00
akpoffI have a question about caps-lock switching on a Powerbook.  When I tell Gnome to make caps-lock another ctrl key the built-in keyboard doesn't swap but a USB keyboard does.  Any ideas?04:00
meuserjkarsten: I had one from the install, but I just removed it and have the same error (without the cdrom parts of the error)04:00
karstennubious: Ask04:00
metalsandAlright, next question. I see the deb located that I downloaded, but it's "documentation", how do I read it04:00
spartacusmebaran151, i'm not sure why it would say that04:01
wartyWHAT04:01
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wartyDO U WANT ME TO DO04:01
karstenmeuserj: try 'aptitude update'04:01
nubiousI just setup a teamspeak server on my ubuntu distro, but I had to arun a command at prompt to start it - I'm a windows user, (14+ years), but I'm so new to linux .. heh.. is there a startup script tha tI have to add the teamspeak server startup command to to ensure that it looads at boot?04:01
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karstenmetalsand: What's the deb?  Filename?04:01
karstenwarty: STOP YELLING04:01
metalsandlinux-wlan-ng-doc_0.2.0+0.2.1pre21-1_all.deb04:02
karstennubious: /etc/init.d/04:02
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meuserjkarsten: it acts as if there is nothing in the sources.list file.04:02
stuNNedn/m my ques heh just wondered if ubuntu would have something native04:02
karstennubious: less /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d.gz04:02
karstenmeuserj: Get a sources.list file from someone else on channel.  I'm not in Ubuntu.04:02
nubiousok cool...04:02
nubiousI'll check that out04:02
nubiousthanks.04:02
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spartacusFalken, you get one too ;)04:03
karstenHow do you (re)configure /etc/apt/sources.list in Ubuntu?04:03
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spartacusi'm not on ubuntu right now either04:03
metalsandkarsten: linux-wlan-ng-doc_0.2.0+0.2.1pre21-1_all.deb04:03
metalsandHow do I read that file04:03
karstenmeuserj: 'synaptic' and dig around for the sources specifications.04:03
karstenmetalsand: dpkg -i <filename>04:03
FalkenOk...04:03
spartacuscan synaptic do that automagically? eg, run it and add sources04:03
metalsandwhat's dpkg?04:03
karstenmetalsand: ...including the ".deb" extension.04:03
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meuserjkarsten: no offense.. I'm not a noob... been using debian since potato, it's not a source.list error.04:03
karstenmetalsand: More genarally, you'd do "aptitude install <packagename>" or install via synaptic.  Package name in your case is linux-wlan-ng-doc.04:04
karstenmeuserj: NP.  I'm also Debian user.04:04
karstenmeuserj: Sorry, keep having to hit scrollback to see your first paste....04:04
bodaciousbdoes anyone know how i can make my script run off of the right click menu in the gnome file browser?04:05
FalkenWait... this is the #ubuntu channel, and nobody is on Ubuntu?04:05
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karstenmeuserj: mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/04:05
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meuserjkarsten: it already exists04:05
karstenmeuserj: ...and try again.  Complaint about that being missing.  Check to see if anything else is borked down there.04:05
spartacusFalken, i use it at home. i'm on Mandrake and Adamantix at work04:06
karstenmeuserj: /join #flood and paste command & output.04:06
FalkenAh...04:06
metalsandkarsten: Setting up linux-wlan-ng-doc04:06
metalsandbut nothing happens04:06
karstenspartacus: When the hell did 80's new-wave rockers start releasing Linux distros?04:06
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karstenmetalsand: Good.04:06
] BreliC[can someone here do me a small favour?04:07
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metalsandIt's good that my documentation doesn't display anything?04:07
karsten] BreliC[: Ask.04:07
spartacuskarsten, heh. dunno... i wouldn't have named it that myself04:07
karstenmetalsand: You've installed the package.  'dpkg -L <package>' to see the files its installed.04:07
spartacuskarsten, trusted-debain sounded better04:07
metalsandSo when Synaptic downloads a package it doesn't auto isntall it?04:07
akpoffHello -- is their a queuing protocol to ask a question?04:07
spartacusakpoff, no, just ask04:07
farruinnakpoff, not at all, just ask04:07
karstenmetalsand: It should.04:08
farruinnif someone has an answer they'll share it04:08
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] BreliC[karsten, well, my processor usage is about 2-5% currently... with Firefox open on a few sites.... but as soon as I visit this site http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/   it jumps to over 60%... does that happen with you as well?04:08
metalsandYet I just had to install it...04:08
akpoffThanks -- I have a question about caps-lock switching on a Powerbook.  When I tell Gnome to make caps-lock another ctrl key the built-in keyboard doesn't swap but a USB keyboard does.  Any ideas?04:08
karsten] BreliC[: Could be a gazillion things, and I'm not going to visit.04:08
karsten] BreliC[: ...however, javascript, java, and flash can all spike CPU usage.04:08
spartacusakpoff, not sure, but have you investigate xkb? i know nothing about it tho...04:09
] BreliC[karsten, oh come on, it's a trusted site. :)04:09
] BreliC[karsten, i didn't think it would spike it that much!04:09
karsten] BreliC[: Bandwidth constraints.  I'm not particularly interested.04:09
akpoffI was really hoping nobody would offer that.  :-)04:09
ishtvan22has anybody had a problem with firefox randomly crashing in ubuntu?04:09
karsten] BreliC[: CPU can be awfully spiky, doesn't take much.04:09
FalkenThanks for the help guys... I found another way to do it.04:09
karstenishtvan22: It's been knwon to happen, but not often.  Any other apps?04:10
spartacusFalken, cool. :)04:10
] BreliC[karsten, but it maintains 60% as long as that site is open in firefox instance04:10
saromcan the command whatis be used to search descriptions rather than names?04:10
FalkenNow I need to reboot to see if I got it right...04:10
karstenishtvan22: ...and/or any logged errors?04:10
ishtvan22no, just firefox, it crashes X and everything04:10
karsten] BreliC[: So I gathered.  Read the source, deduce, I'm not interested.04:10
Xenguysarom: apt-cache search keyword04:10
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] BreliC[karsten, ok, then don't ask to do favours in that case04:11
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lowellDoes anyone no how to enable print sharing in Ubuntu04:11
karstenlowell: CUPS & Samba.04:12
farruinnlowell, I don't know how, but I'm prtty sure there's a wiki page on www.ubuntulinux.org04:12
spartacusthere's a windows cups client now04:12
saromXenguy, apt-cache searches for stored programs... I don't think I'll be able to search for the descriptions of programs like: ls or man04:12
rymanis gaim working for you guys ?04:12
] BreliC[Can anyone else visit that site for me to see if CPU usage is maintained at 60% or so when you have the site open?  It's a trusted Sports Network site in Canada.. just wondering if it's my machine, or the site  http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/04:12
lowellIs the functionality installed from the default Ubuntu  disk?04:13
] BreliC[i have a 2ghz 512mb ram laptop04:13
tanekcan anyone send me the /etc/vmware/locations from vmware 5? mine is missing :'(04:13
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lowellIn Win XP there was a sharing tab for the printer.  Not in Ubunutu04:13
karstenlowell: ubuntu isn't XP.04:14
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farruinn] BreliC[, not anywhere close to 60% for me04:14
lowellWhere in Ubunutuwould one find how to do it?04:14
] BreliC[farruinn, hmm... thanks04:14
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] BreliC[maybe it's me, though not sure why it would be that high.  kind of annoying04:14
farruinnlowell, I suggest searching www.ubuntulinux.org, I believe there's a wiki page that describes how04:14
lowellthanks guys.  Will check.  This the first time I install a Linux,,,04:15
ishtvan22karsten: what log should i check after firefox crash, ive never done that before04:15
spartacuslowell, it's simple enough.. i'll walk u thu it04:16
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spartacuslowell, printing works?04:16
pjoHello Evrybody, i am from Japan new to ubuntu !04:16
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] BreliC[hello pjo04:16
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pjomy friend told me that ubuntu is very popular04:17
karstenishtvan22: I'm thinking possible HW errors.  /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog /var/log/kern.log possibly.04:17
pjowhere can I find general description of ubuntu ?04:17
P0ldydistrowatch04:17
] BreliC[pjo, www.ubuntulinux.org04:18
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pjothanks  is this free distribution ?04:18
HrdwrBoByes04:18
ishtvan22karsten: thanks, so should I just wait for it to happen again?04:18
pjogreat04:18
mebaran151hey04:18
] BreliC[pjo, yes free04:19
pjohttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27811.html  i found this04:19
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pjoi am trying to do this  where can I ask questions on that ?04:19
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karstenishtvan22: Some apps crash periodically.  Web browsers tend to be less stable with javascript / java / flash activated, though I can get sessions running weeks myself.04:19
] BreliC[pjo, you can try here, maybe someone can help you04:20
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mebaran151I need to get my virtual devices working04:20
karstenishtvan22: Just went through an issue with incorrectly installed RAM which was crashing a system.  Apps would die, then the whole box would lock & panic.  I had some nonfatal oopses as well.04:20
calvin123where can i go to find the packages on ubuntu?04:20
mebaran151how might I see them04:20
] BreliC[i don't know if there is a japanese ubuntu channel..04:20
mebaran151to see where to start04:20
ishtvan22karsten: yeah, but it happened multiple times for no apparent reason and killed X everytime04:20
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tux0010hello world04:20
mebaran151return 004:21
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tux0010I came here this morning asking the same question04:21
pjook thanks ...     I am trying to install scim  to input Japanese on KDE Sarge...  will this method described in there work ?04:21
karstenishtvan22: aptitude install memtest86+04:21
tux0010my 2D acceleration sux04:21
tux0010I am using an nvidia card04:21
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farruinnishtvan22, you may want to check the x logs too then04:21
ishtvan22karsten: my memory is fine, i did a test a little bit ago04:21
tux0010I think it hasn;t chosen the right refresh rates04:21
bodaciousbhow do i search for the gnome2 folder?04:21
shadeofgreyhey everybody04:21
karstenishtvan22: That's going to install a memory tester on your system.  It's a boot option.  Try running overnight.04:21
karstenishtvan22: OK.04:21
tux0010however, I used to be able to make it automagically select them by using "X -configure"04:21
karstenishtvan22: Alternatively, check /var/log/XFree86.0.log and ~/.xsession.wmaker04:21
tux0010but it gives me errors in ubuntu saying "error: missing output drivers"04:21
karstenishtvan22: Um.  ~/.xsession-errors04:22
pjoactually Serge is running on coLinux04:22
mebaran151what is the best encoder04:22
mebaran151transcoder04:22
mebaran151or mencoder04:22
mebaran151and is it better to rip subs by -vobsubout in mencoder04:22
mebaran151or by -dumpsub in mplayer04:22
tux0010please can anyone help me?04:23
mebaran151what was the question04:23
tux0010how do I select the proper refresh rates for my laptop?04:23
] BreliC[pjo, based on the comments on that page, it seems as though some people have it working04:23
tux0010I used to be able to do it by "X -configure" in slackware and arch linux04:23
bodaciousbWhere is gnome installed to? i cant find it04:23
tux0010but that method is not working in ubuntu04:23
] BreliC[you could try to follow that guide and take the advice of others on that page and see if it works for you04:23
anto9usbodaciousb: all the configuration stuff is stalled in hidden folders in your home folder04:24
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bodaciousbanto9us, sweet, thanks04:24
pjo] BreliC[:     thanks   but how do I communicate with these people in that posts ?04:24
shadeofgreyahhh04:24
shadeofgreythats better04:24
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pjo] BreliC[:  the page I found is an archive,  do you knpw where is the active forum ?04:26
shadeofgreyokay so04:26
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shadeofgreyim running an nvidia card and id like to use xmms -- how do i use apt-get to install libmik?04:26
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Tm_Nuadahmm04:27
tux0010my 2D is sucking04:27
tux0010:(04:27
tux0010I see tearing across the screen when minimizing firefox, etc04:27
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shadeofgreywhat kind of card is it ?04:27
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tux0010with the same version of nvidia drivers, this doesn't happen in other distros04:27
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tux0010nvidia geforce fx 5600go04:27
] BreliC[pjo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2781104:27
pjo] BreliC[:  thanks04:28
shadeofgreydoes nobody really know about libmik?04:28
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bob2shadeofgrey: libmikmod204:29
pjo] BreliC[:  what does ubuntu mean ?04:29
bob2shadeofgrey: install it like you install every other package04:29
shadeofgreyah okay...  i understand04:29
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tux0010:(04:29
tux0010please can anyone help me?04:29
bob2tux0010: do you have problems with the Free drivers?04:29
tux0010bob2, the nvidia one04:30
tux0010bob2, the strange thing is that i was running arch linux right before this04:30
tux0010bob2, and the exact same drivers worked great04:30
bob2tux0010: no, when you use the normal drivers, do you have problems?04:30
tux0010bob2, could it be because of a different set of refresh rates chosen by ubuntu?04:30
tux0010bob2, i haven't tried it yet04:30
bob2...04:31
jkinzhi all, quick question, does ubuntu support mounting an ntfs filesystem read only (or any other way for that matter)?04:31
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bob2jkinz: sure04:31
shadeofgreyokay "apt-get install libmikmod2" didnt work04:31
tux0010bob2, should I give it a shot?04:31
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bob2tux0010: yes04:31
tux0010bob2, ok brb04:31
] BreliC[pjo, it says it on the ubuntu homepage.. "Humanity to others"04:31
shadeofgreydo i need to be in a special repository that isnt in the default ones?04:31
jkinzbob2: any idea what the mount comand should look like?04:31
bob2shadeofgrey: no04:31
ThomasWinwoodjkinz: mount -t ntfs blah04:31
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bob2shadeofgrey: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, it's in universe04:31
bob2yes, the nvidia drivers are annoyingly buggy04:31
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jkinzThomasWinwood: thx04:32
ThomasWinwoodYou're welcome.04:32
Tm_Nuadahmm, any irssi users here?04:32
pjo] BreliC[:  thanks04:32
XenguyTm_Nuada: ask04:32
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Tm_Nuadajust wondering... I'm working on my own theme04:33
shadeofgreyhow do i add universe to the synaptic package manager?  the wiki doesnt say04:33
pjo] BreliC[: pls tell me how do I copy and paste from Windows XP window to putty window ?04:33
pjo] BreliC[: I can do that recersely04:33
Tm_Nuadahmm, ok, I go back to #kubuntu ->04:34
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bob2shadeofgrey: read it again04:34
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tux0010bob2, same problem04:34
shadeofgreyi got it04:34
shadeofgreythanks!04:34
tux0010I think its the refresh rates maybe?04:34
bob2no idea04:34
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jkinzbob2, ThomasWinwood, success!  Thanks, oo04:34
shadeofgreyis the newer version of openoffice 2 with the blue splash screen available in universe yet?04:35
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paulproteusInteresting, a Gentoo user in #ubuntu.04:35
paulproteusI mean, hi Windpaw. :)04:36
shido6emerge ubuntu04:36
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] BreliC[pjo, if it's anything like linux, you would have to hit SHIFT-INSERT04:37
] BreliC[pjo, but I don't know Windows / Putty enough to tell you04:38
Windpawhiya paulproteus04:38
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karstenshido6: Heh.04:39
shido6hrmm04:40
paulproteus] BreliC[: To paste in PuTTY, right-click.04:40
darkauditwhat's the preferred ver. of xmame with an nVidia GeForce card?04:41
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pjoOh thanks  for the right-click!04:42
afromankarsten04:42
afromankarsten: hi again04:42
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afromankarsten: I'm back04:43
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afromananyone here who can help me with scp and ssh04:44
paulproteusafroman: Sure.04:45
paulproteusBut you'd have to ask a question.04:45
hutchhey...does ne body kno how to install the "linux-install.sh" for UT2004?04:45
hutchand apply the patch04:45
afromanall right04:45
paulproteushutch: Just run it, as I understand.  $ ./linux-install.sh04:45
danthemanhow can i get transparency in my windows?04:45
darkaudithutch: which patch? there are several04:46
afroman1st wot is the difference between SCP and SSH04:46
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paulproteusafroman: SSH is a protocol.04:46
paulproteusscp is a program that uses the SSH protocol to copy files.04:46
afromancool04:46
paulproteussftp is another such program.  They both talk to the remote computer by the SSH protocol.04:46
darkaudithutch: http://liflg.org/04:46
paulproteusscp is best for little files when you know where they are.04:47
paulproteusssh is a general client for the SSH protocol.  It lets you run programs on the remote computer, forward ports, and more.04:47
afromanpaul> ok... so wot do U recommand to use for file transfer...??04:47
afromanwot prog...?? even if U have to beyond SSH...04:47
ThomasWinwoodafroman: Your question reminds me of the people who say "I use the internet version 4" when they mean Internet Explorer.04:48
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tritiumafroman, s/wot/what04:48
Xenguyafroman: for yourself? for others? Linux->linux? d0ze->linux? on a LAN, or between remote networks?04:48
Xenguyafroman: and jesus, can you type English please?04:48
afromanI just want the easiest04:48
danthemani'm trying to watch a video in vlc and i get an error that says "oss audio output error: cannot open audio device (/dv/dsp)"04:49
danthemandoes anyone know what i might to do fix that?04:49
ThomasWinwooddantheman: Switch to another sound daemon, like esd or alsa.04:49
Android20i am in need of assitance with dpkg if any one is available04:49
hyphenateddannemare: use a sound server in all your apps04:49
Xenguyafroman: apt-get install ssh (the server), and install 'winscp' on your d0ze PC's04:49
ThomasWinwoodAndroid20: man dpkg04:49
danthemanhow do i switch to another sound daemon?04:50
Xenguyafroman: use 'gftp' if you want a GUI linux client04:50
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afromanin between windows boxes I use USB cable...  can I use the cable in Linux04:50
Xenguyafroman: make sure you configure your ssh server properly (man sshd_config, then configure /etc/ssh/sshd_config)04:50
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danthemanoh wait...it appears to only be a problem in vlc04:51
danthemangxine works fine04:51
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karstenafroman: Sorry, was AFK.04:52
afromanXenguy: what is AFK???04:52
Naliothhowdy04:52
Xenguyaway from keyboard04:52
afromanok04:52
Naliothi'm back from AFK land, where i was installing a new power socket04:53
Naliothit was not an enlightening experience04:53
Naliothafroman, were you successful?04:53
karstenNalioth: Try sticking your finger in it.04:53
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afromanI just installed SSH04:53
paulproteuskarsten: That'd be enlightening.04:53
Naliothkarsten, holding the bare wires, and having the neighbor turn the breaker back on is easier04:53
karstenpaulproteus: Quite.04:53
afromanhow do I configure??04:54
REdscan u use normal debian htto sources, to install packages or upgrade ubuntu04:54
karstenpaulproteus: ...and if a finger wasn't sufficient, I've got some other suggestions....04:54
ThomasWinwoodkarsten: At least you might achieve enlightenment (= nirvana) ;)04:54
karstenREds: Not supported, nor particularly advised.04:54
NaliothREds, that may/will break some ubuntu innards04:54
Naliothafroman, did you install on your linux box "openssh-server"?04:54
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karstenafroman: It should be configured sanely out of the box.04:55
afromanNalioth: no I installed just SSH04:55
Muffiehello all. Anyone a good tool to fix some partition possible errors? I have a 2o. disc (30gb) with 1 windows partition and 5gb of free space. I have tried to install FreeBSD (unsucessfully). The Windows Data partition still there, but fdisk shows that the disk contains only 2mb!!! and Partition Magic shows that its BAD!04:55
karstenafroman: 'ssh localhost' to test.04:55
karstenMuffie: gpart04:55
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Android20thank you04:55
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karstenMuffie: ...or qtparted, in general, though I'd get my backups done *frist*.04:56
Naliothafroman, you will need to install the server on your linux box (unless you want that BSOD thing hanging over your every byte xferred by installing a ssh server on your windoze block)04:56
karstenMuffie: Um.  *first*.04:56
ThomasWinwoodfrist bakcup!04:56
karstenMuffie: Not sure the Senate Majority Leader will take special interest in your partition table...04:56
karstenThomasWinwood: Actually, in Frist's case, I'd just as soon nuke the original.04:56
NaliothMuffie, no good will come of mixing windoze and anything04:56
karstenNalioth: Dunno.  I've always been partial to windows & baseballs.04:57
Muffieqtparted quits with an error! :) Critical Error during PED_DISK_NEW!!!04:57
Android20the synaptic package manager is reporting that W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key04:57
afromanNalioth: I don't know what you just said... but I'm gonna install the server04:57
Naliothkarsten, a delightful combination! the sound the ball makes when it passes thru the box is heavenly04:57
ThomasWinwoodMixing Windoze and Linux is like mixing Ectasy with LSD. It produces nasty toxins and you die painfully and end up looking like a bloated pig.04:57
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Naliothafroman, the package is called "openssh-server" in ubuntu04:58
afromankarsten: the test, how do I know if it works or not...??? it is just standing still04:58
karstenThomasWinwood: ...and you love everyone while doing it?04:58
karstenafroman: 'ssh -v localhost'.04:58
Naliothafroman, it will not work unless you have the server running04:58
TerminaHey, I'm having trouble getting a monitor to work (along with my LCD screen) on my laptop as per this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3168604:58
ThomasWinwoodkarsten: Before you first puke brown gunk, yeah.04:58
karstenafroman: ...you should at some point get a password prompt, or a timeout.04:58
TerminaCould anyone help me out? :)04:58
bluefoxicyfind me something that looks like litestep04:58
karstenThomasWinwood: No, not brown gunk.04:58
karstenThomasWinwood: ...the LSD will colorize it.04:58
bluefoxicyhttp://beyondconvention.net/ohussain/lsinstaller/images/post_install.png04:58
ThomasWinwoodIt's brown to those of us with clarity of sight.04:58
karstenbluefoxicy: ??04:59
Naliothbluefoxicy, litestep won't compile on ubuntu?04:59
karstenTux flies!  http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=01876404:59
ThomasWinwoodLitestep is Windows only.04:59
afromankarsten: how long do I have to wait...??04:59
bluefoxicyNalioth:  does it work on ubuntu?  :)04:59
Naliothisnt it open source?04:59
bluefoxicyThomasWinwood:  find something that looks like it for me :D05:00
karstenbluefoxicy: Um.  How about WindowMaker?05:00
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bluefoxicykarsten:  windowmaker doesn't look like that, can it be set that way?  o.o05:00
karstenbluefoxicy: ...hrm.  Or XFCE405:00
ThomasWinwoodbluefoxicy: Why? GNOME is positively heavenly, and opensource. ;)05:00
karstenbluefoxicy: ...which is highly themable.05:00
Naliothbluefoxicy, search your apt-cache or use synactic for "litestep"05:00
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karstenNalioth: Litestep is a Windows-only desktop environment.  It's themes on top of Windoes Explorer, IIRC.05:01
ThomasWinwoodkarsten: It's an alternative shell instead of explorer.exe05:01
karstenbluefoxicy: ...the icon sets you're seeing there are really close to a couple of the XFCE4 themes.05:01
bluefoxicykarsten:  it's a separate shell.05:01
karstenThomasWinwood: I know.05:01
Naliothkarsten, ok, but searching with synaptic under "contains" and the term litestep may bring an answer05:01
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metalsandLitestep negates Windows Explorer... explorer.exe isn't running05:01
karstenbluefoxicy: OK, wasn't sure of the specifics.05:01
karstenNalioth: It doesn't.05:01
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metalsandIs there much themeing done for gnome?05:01
karstenNalioth: Likewise.  Though I've played with the GNUWin II cd, which includes Litestep.05:02
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bluefoxicydid anyone actually look at the screenshot I showed?05:02
afromankarsten: I waited nothing came05:02
bluefoxicyit's a very soft looking setup :)05:02
karstenmetalsand: Most of the theming for gnome ith done by thothe that lithp.05:02
karstenafroman: /etc/init.d/ssh start05:02
danthemandoes anyone know how to do window transparency in gnome?05:02
ThomasWinwoods/most/motht05:02
afromanNalioth: I think I have the server installed and running05:02
Naliothisnt litestep modeled after "afterstep" or something?05:03
karstenbluefoxicy: I'm looking.05:03
ThomasWinwoodNalioth hits the hammer with the nailhead.05:03
Naliothafroman, do the "ssh localhost" thang from a terminal05:03
TerminaHey, anyone willing to help me set up dual monitors on my laptop? ^_^;05:03
Naliothso get 'afterstep'05:03
karstenThomasWinwood: Yet another case of "When you're a nail, everything looks like a hammer?"05:03
ThomasWinwoodSomething like that, karsten.05:03
karstenNalioth: LS != afterstep.05:03
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spiderwormhelp, where is the desktop sharing thing in ubuntu?  cant find it under applications05:03
karstenNalioth: ...and WMaker is the more current deal anyway.05:03
afromanNalioth: I*m doing it05:03
afromannothing05:04
karstenspiderworm: nautilus.  'smb://<ip - or hostname>05:04
bluefoxicyhmm05:04
ThomasWinwoodLS was originally like Afterstep, but diverged once the Wharf became optional.05:04
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Naliothafroman, try "ssh 127.0.0.1"05:04
spiderwormkarsten: not file sharing, DESKTOP sharing05:04
karstenspiderworm: x11vnc05:04
afromanNalioth: I even did /etc/init.d/ssh start and it said "Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell Server05:05
metalsandkarsten: Do all things I download using Synaptic need to be installed with the dpkg command?05:05
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Naliothmetalsand, synaptic installs for you05:05
karstenmetalsand: Synaptic should and IIRC _does_ install for you by default.05:05
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CitizenKanedoes anyone know how to edit the panel menus in gnome?05:05
metalsandkarsten: If I downloaded the wlan-ng-doc, I'm still not sure how to read the documentation05:05
metalsandIf it already installs it where do I go to read it?05:06
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ThomasWinwoodmetalsand: possibly a man page?05:07
afromanNalioth: well...05:07
afroman??05:07
metalsandHrmmm. I'll try that05:07
metalsandI'm rebooting right now, I'll try man wlan-ng05:07
Naliothmetalsand, in galeon there is a link in the default startpage for on-system docs05:07
metalsandWhere's galeon?05:08
Naliothafroman, well what?05:08
Naliothmetalsand, it is a web browser05:08
CitizenKane does anyone know how to edit the panel menus in gnome?05:08
metalsandDoe sit come defult with Ubuntu?05:08
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metalsanddefault*05:09
afromanNalioth: it timed out05:09
Naliothhmmm05:09
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Naliothmetalsand, yes05:09
afromanKarsten: it timed out05:10
Naliothafroman, go to your windozer and see if you can connect using putty or some other ssh enabled transfer agent05:10
metalsandWhat does the little red square next to the network status icon mean?05:10
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metalsandOn the bottom right05:10
SiRrUshello05:10
karstenafroman: grep ssh /var/log/daemon.log05:10
Naliothkarsten, thank you05:10
afromanNalioth: I have tried before and it worked...05:10
danthemandoes anyone know how to get window transparency in gnome?05:10
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Naliothi only know that sftp/scp is the easiest to set up05:11
metalsandMy network connection is sending and recieving but I cannot access the internet05:11
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|iceman|anyone know how to add mp3 export capability to audacity w/o having to compile lame?05:11
CitizenKane does anyone know how to edit the panel menus in gnome?05:11
dougevening everyone!05:11
afromankarsten: nothing comes with that command05:12
regeya_lame is in multiverse05:12
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karstenafroman: ps aux | grep [s] shd05:12
|iceman|i have lame installed, but audacity doesn't recognize it for export05:12
rymanI want to learn C program, after I type my code gedit. what do I do after that ? what file ext do I save the file as and how to I execute it ?05:13
karstenafroman: ...and what happens when you do '/etc/init.d/ssh start' ?05:13
regeya_jpe snpi05:13
Nalioth|iceman|, is your repository list set up properly?05:13
regeya_how about liblame005:13
regeya_fo uskdjhnb05:13
regeya_dang05:13
regeya_my fingers seem to have forgotten how to type05:13
Naliothryman, depends on what type of code you are writing05:14
|iceman|i think so... lame is showing when i search for it05:14
Naliothmost plain C code ends with .c05:14
regeya_|iceman|, is liblame0 also installed05:14
rymanNalioth+  just a basic hello world one05:14
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|iceman|nope... can't find liblame005:14
afromankarsten: it says "Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell Server05:14
regeya_well, wait.05:15
Naliothryman, 1st your write the code, 2nd you compile the code, 3d you execute the code05:15
karstenafroman: ssh localhost05:15
metalsandWhat does it mean when my eth0 connection properties are sending and recieiving, but I cannot access the internet05:15
karstenafroman: ...confirm the server is running:  ps aux | grep [s] shd05:15
|iceman|just installed liblame0.... that should do it I bet... thx05:15
regeya_lame and liblame0 are both multiverse, I think....so you don't have liblame0 installed, or you can't find it?05:15
regeya_oh05:15
karstenmetalsand: It means your connection's misconfigured.05:15
karstenmetalsand: Got default route?05:15
dougcan anyone help me with installing programs?05:15
karstenmetalsand: ...and/or can you resolve names?05:15
metalsandI don't even know what the means, Karsten05:16
karstendoug: synaptic05:16
Naliothdoug your question is?05:16
karstenmetalsand: 'route'05:16
dougI installed some packages with synaptic, but now i want to open them and i don't know how05:16
metalsandKernal IP routing table05:16
metalsandDestination, Gateway, Genmaks, Flags metric Ref, Us Iface05:16
karstenmetalsand: Try:  '/sbin/route -n'.  You should see a line like:  0.0.0.0         192.168.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth005:16
dougIt was a book manager program05:16
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afromankarsten: root     14415  0.0  0.3   3512  1524 ?        Ss   01:58   0:00 /usr/sb05:16
metalsandThere's no values, karsten05:16
Naliothdoug if the proggys are not located in the menu, open up a terminal and type their names05:17
karstenmetalsand: The '0.0.0.0' is important.  Just paste that line.  If you don't see it, you're missing a default root.05:17
dougJust the name?05:17
Naliothdoug hopefully just the name05:17
karstenmetalsand: How is your network configured?  Static or DHCP?05:17
metalsandSo I'm missing a default root, what does that mean05:17
metalsandDHCP05:17
karstenafroman: ??05:17
karstenmetalsand: What's your DHCP server?05:17
CitizenKanedoes anyone know how to edit the panel menus in gnome?05:17
dougsounds much to simple!  but i'll give it a try05:17
metalsand192.168.2.105:17
afromankarsten: that is wot I get05:17
karstenmetalsand: What kind of device?05:17
metalsandRouter05:17
Naliothdoug, dang near EVERY program on your linux box can be started at the terminal05:18
metalsandThis is wireless, karsten05:18
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dougof course, im currently downloading another package, so will be 10 minutes before i can try it05:18
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karstenmetalsand: Can you admin that via web or something?05:18
Naliothdoug why?05:18
afromankarstin: root     14415  0.0  0.3   3512  1524 ?        Ss   01:58   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd05:18
rymanNalioth+  thanks I found a link on google05:18
karstenmetalsand: Alternatively, quick check, try:05:18
metalsandYes, karsten05:18
dougI'm sure it can, i'm just worried it will require some big long command that i don't know yet...05:18
karstenafroman: Thanks. You're running ssh.  'ssh localhost'05:18
karstenmetalsand: 'route add default gw 192.168.2.1'05:18
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Naliothdoug, open another terminal and let 'er rip05:19
karstenmetalsand: ...and see if you can ping some remote IP.  Saywww.ubuntulinux.com has address 82.211.81.13005:19
dougI need to check the menu for the right name, and i cant see the synaptec menu atm because it is downloading a package05:19
Mr_Milenkomy desktop looks perty :}05:19
metalsandSIOCADDR: Network is unreachable05:19
Naliothryman, i am a self taught programmer (what a freakin scary thought, eh?)05:19
karsten[ADULT_SWIM] : Does this mean the kids have to get out?05:19
metalsandkarsten: SIOCADDR: Network is unreachable05:19
[ADULT_SWIM] lol05:19
karstenmetalsand: '/sbin/ifconfig eth0'.  Paste to #flood.05:19
[ADULT_SWIM] maybe ^_^05:19
metasquierhey, can someone tell me where I can get instructions on how to install gnome themes?05:20
afromankarsten: but why did it time out when I ran ssh -v Localhost05:20
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karstenafroman: Try it again.05:20
metalsandKarsten: I cannot connect to the internet05:20
metalsandI'm relaying from my PC05:20
nargare the ubuntu us apt servers down?05:20
afromankarsten: as root???05:20
karstenafroman: Doesn't matter.05:20
karstenmetalsand: What box are you on now?05:21
Naliothmetasquier, google?  art.gnome.org?  gnome-look.org?05:21
afromankarsten: OpenSSH_3.9p1 Debian-1ubuntu2, OpenSSL 0.9.7e 25 Oct 200405:21
afromandebug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config05:21
afromandebug1: Applying options for *05:21
afromandebug1: Connecting to Linux [127.0.0.1]  port 22.05:21
Mr_Milenkohttp://hwbbusiness.com/milenko/gnomewithmac.png <-- pretty eh? lol05:21
karstenafroman: Paste to #flood please.05:21
metalsandkarsten: I'm on my Windows PC05:22
karstenmetalsand: OK.05:22
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metalsandkarsten: The ubuntu is on my laptop (right next to me)05:22
metasquierNalioth, Ive tried searching google- no help, gnome-look.org has no instructions, but I think I will try art.gnome.org05:22
rymanNalioth+  I got a C programming book for free05:22
afromankarsten: what is #flood??05:22
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metalsandkarsten: I'm also trying to configure my PCMCIA wireless connection05:22
rymanI just don't know how to work it with Ubuntu05:22
metalsandkarsten: So really I don't even care about this connection. So if you want to just work on getting that to work we can forgot about this for now05:23
Naliothryman, Great! you are doing better than I (i had to steal mine)05:23
stuNNedryman: learn vim05:23
nargcan someone tell me a package mirror other than the us one?05:23
rymanNalioth+  I got a for free from a yard sale05:23
rymanlol05:23
Naliothnarg, patience they will return shortly05:23
nargso it IS down?05:23
Naliothnarg, if they are, they will shortly be back up05:24
Naliothpatience05:24
karstenmetalsand: OK.  ENsure your ethernet device is up.05:24
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karstenmetalsand: 'ifconfig eth0' should output something like ... Um. see #flood.05:24
afromankarsten: what do U think?? it timed out again05:24
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karstenafroman: I think your computer is stoned.05:25
afromankasten: lol I think so 205:26
karstenmetalsand: 'ifdown eth0; ifconfig eth0 down'05:26
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afromankarsten: what do I do???05:26
karstenmetalsand: ...should ensure eth0 is down.05:26
karstenafroman: Panic.05:26
stuNNedlol05:26
afroman:D05:26
a_monkeywhat's the difference between unrar and unrar-nonfree? i don't get what "non-free" its05:27
karstenSomeone w/ more patience than me please walk afroman through sshd config & troubleshot.05:27
a_monkeyis*05:27
karstena_monkey: licensing and functionality.05:27
Naliothafroman, burn a cd05:27
metalsand"eth: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device@05:27
karstena_monkey: nonfree == encumbered stuff with non-DFSG licenses.  But many RAR archives won't work w/o them.05:27
karstenmetalsand: What sort of NIC do you have?05:27
Naliotha_monkey "non-free" is software that has a license so you can't do anything with it05:27
karstenmetalsand: 'lspci | grep -i eth'05:27
metalsandmini-PCI05:27
karstenmetalsand: Noninformative.05:28
afromanNalioth: wot CD???05:28
Naliothafroman, for your file xfer05:28
metalsand000:02:05.0 Ethernet Controller: Broadcom Corp BMC4401-BO05:28
karstenNalioth: Heh.05:28
karstenNalioth: He's got SMB working, I think.  Maybe not.05:28
metalsandALthough, that's my ethernet controller... I'm connecting to the internet wirelessly05:28
mptDNS problem: Trying to visit www.quirksmode.org, www.groklaw.net, docs.python.org, and various other sites takes me to buydomains.com. Why?05:28
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karstenmetalsand: 'lspci | grep -i eth0'05:28
metalsandThat's unconfigured, I don't even think I have drivers for it yet05:28
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metalsandkarsten: nothing05:29
karstenmetalsand: That reads the PCI bus directly, doesn't need drivers.05:29
karstenmetalsand: PCMCIA?05:29
metalsandNO05:29
metalsandNo*05:29
metalsandMini-PCI05:29
afromanNalioth: that is an easy way...05:29
metalsandOn my network settings GUI05:29
metalsandit shows a PCMCIA card05:29
Naliothkarsten, afroman i know nothing about windoze (that i'll admit) i only suggested sshd as the easiest (setup-wise) for ship to ship xfer05:29
paulproteusmpt: You seem to have evil DNS servers.05:29
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metalsandPerhaps Linux detects it as such?05:29
paulproteusI suggest setting yours to 128.151.2.1, the one I use.  It's hosted by the University of Rochester.05:30
saulHeelo05:30
karstenNalioth: afroman can't seem to get his ssh daemon working and/or diagnose it, and he's a 111% n00b.  I can't handle further...05:30
afromanNalioth: I just want to set up my ssh05:30
Naliothkarsten, afroman i've installed a win32 ssh client on some windoze machines i manage, and done all sorts of stuff to unix machines on the same network05:30
mptpaulproteus: I'm connecting my laptop running Ubuntu at a cybercafe. The Windows computers at the same cybercafe, using the same DNS server, don't have the same problem.05:30
paulproteusHmm.05:30
karstenNalioth: PuTTY?05:30
saulI can updae de warty version to Hoary version using the atp-get?05:30
afromankarsten: I think I can handle if U tell me what to do05:30
paulproteusMaybe part of the problem is IPv6?05:31
karstenafroman: Nalioth please.05:31
Naliothkarsten, nay, i found some simple CLI win32 ssh client05:31
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karstenmetalsand: OK, what's mini-PCI, I appear to be hardware-challenged here.05:31
afromanthe ssh I'm talking about is on Ubuntu05:31
karstenNalioth: OK.05:31
mptpaulproteus: That sounds like the Internet equivalent of "It's a bug in GTK+!" :-)05:31
Naliothkarsten, dropped it into the /system32 and away i went (almost like *nix)05:31
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afromanKarsten, Nalioth the ssh I'm talking about is on Ubuntu05:31
mptpaulproteus: What do you mean specifically?05:31
karstenpaulproteus: I think it's in the high-numbered bits.05:31
afromanKarsten, Nalioth the ssh I'm talking about is on Ubuntu, that's there that I'm having the prob05:31
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paulproteuskarsten: Hmm?05:32
karstenafroman: Please direct to Nalioth only.05:32
karstenpaulproteus: Possibly the low numbered bits.05:32
paulproteusmpt: Ubuntu talks to DNS servers using both IPv6 and IPv4.05:32
richard_hoary hedgehog AMD64 ver, no cdrdao?05:32
karstenpaulproteus: It's got to be one or the other.05:32
saulI can updae de warty version to Hoary version using the atp-get?05:32
paulproteusIPv4 is the current standard; IPv6 is the next generation.05:32
mptsure05:32
richard_IPv6 is already in use05:32
Naliothafroman, i've never had a problem with sshd(s) i use apt-get to install, and they run05:32
karstenpaulproteus: ...and always will be.05:32
paulproteuskarsten: That's a flamewar for another day. ;)05:32
Naliothsaul yes05:32
afromankarsten, nalioth: it is getting worse... now when I start SSH it says that no hostkeys avaible05:33
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paulproteusmpt: So, try disabling IPv6 support in Ubuntu.05:33
karstenafroman: I'm /ignoring you.05:33
Naliothafroman, that is good05:33
paulproteusThere's docs for this on the wiki.05:33
mptpaulproteus: Okies05:33
Naliothafroman, that means it's trying to work05:33
karstenNalioth: enjoy.05:33
metalsandkarsten: Mini-PCI is the PCI connections laptops use05:33
saulNalioth How I can make it?05:33
karstenmetalsand: My understaning is that the card should appear in 'lspci' output.05:34
Naliothsaul, you need to update your repositorys to hoary ones, and do a simple apt-get update and apt-get upgrade05:34
ThomasWinwoodNalioth: And apt-get dist-upgrade05:34
afromanNalioth: now I can't even run it05:34
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Naliothafroman, google "ssh homepage" and look at the FAQs05:34
metalsandkarsten: it is05:34
Naliothafroman, you have it, just need to tell it what to do05:35
metalsandNetwork Controller: intel Corp.: Unkown Device 4223 (rev 05)05:35
karstenmetalsand: And the card spec is?05:35
karstenmetalsand: Ahh.  That's progress.05:35
karstenHrm.05:35
metalsandI've used it to connect to the internet before05:35
afromanNalioth: assuming that it works... how do I transfer files??05:36
anto9usanyone know what font the ubuntu logo uses?05:36
saulNalioth, and if I do a apt-get dist-upgrade before update the repository, the atualization will have problems?05:36
karstenmetalsand: Anything else likely in there?05:36
metalsandWhat do you mean?05:36
pjoIs this the only channel related to ubuntu ?05:36
Naliothafroman, use any ssh-capable file transfer proggy (putty-ftp or filezilla (using secure mode))05:36
] BreliC[pjo, no there are many others.. type /cs list *ubuntu*05:37
karstenmetalsand: There should be something in output that looks like an ethernet controller.05:37
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Naliothsaul, 1st update your sources.list to show the hoary repos. comment out the warty repos05:37
metalsandkarsten: are you aware I'm connecting wirelessly?05:37
pjo /cs list *ubuntu*05:37
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Naliothsaul 2nd use apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade and then if you feel like, apt-get dist-upgrade05:38
karstenmetalsand: It's still a PCI device.05:38
karstenmetalsand: My understanding is that your wireless NIC is *NOT* working.  Correct?05:38
metalsandYes05:38
afromannalioth: wot is the command between SSHs?? something like SCP right??05:38
metalsandIt isn't functioning, but has before.05:38
saulNalioth,thanks05:38
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metalsandMan, Linux is really a PITA to use05:39
saulNalioth, I'm installing the KDE now.... the next step is update the version...05:39
karstenmetalsand: as root:  'cardctl status'05:39
metalsandEVERY single thing I've done besides configuring my screensaver has taken more than 5 hours05:39
saulNalioth, of my Ubuntu05:39
karstenmetalsand: ...it can take a while to get sorted.  Once that's done, unlike some systems, it strongly tends to _stay_ sorted.05:40
karstenmetalsand: Nothing I've done besides configuring my screensaver has taken more than 5 hours.05:40
metalsandSocket 0: no card05:40
metalsandSocket 1: no card05:40
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] BreliC[afroman, the best way to find all this out is to read the man pages or to google some sites.. so 'man scp' for example05:40
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tanekanyone whos running dc++ under wine?05:40
karstenmetalsand: Is this hypothetical wireless NIC of yours actually in a socket somewhere?05:40
taneki've got an error05:40
karstenmetalsand: 'dmesg | grep -i eth'05:40
super_dude2i cant get my usb stick to work05:40
metalsandEverything I've done needs outside "hacks" to work, or takes more than 5 hours. Sure it's my first week using Linux but man, how discouraging05:40
SNIacan you use amd64 and i386 at the same time. (i'm sure this is trivial for most of you)05:41
afromanthx05:41
karstenmetalsand: Troubleshooting is *massively* easier if you can work out a way to transfer data (without typing) from one system to another.05:41
afromanaight.. guyz05:41
afromanI'm gonna hit the sac05:41
karstenSNIa: Yes, several methods, currently an IA32 chroot appears recommended.05:41
afromanciao05:41
metalsandunfortunately my internet doesn't work :P05:41
afromanU have been a great healp05:42
super_dude2how do i got my usb stick to mount?05:42
tanekSNIa: that would be wierd wouldnt it? a 32bit working alongside a 64 bit? :D05:42
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karstenmetalsand: ...and you haven't spent $20 to get a USB pen drive.05:42
SNIaheh05:42
karstenmetalsand: ...I'd strongly recommend that.05:42
SNIatanek, no weirder than running windows ;005:42
darkauditbleh... gxmame missing the categories listing... kinda sucks when the collection is (near) complete05:42
metalsandkarsten: when my connection was working it didn't have the little red square next to it in the gnome panel05:42
metalsandNow it does05:42
metalsandAnything helpful?05:42
Naliothafroman there are two commands  "scp" and "sftp"05:42
tanekSNIa: sure, however, running windows is very wierd indeed :P05:42
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metalsandWhat doest the red square signify05:42
stuNNedhow to install perl modules in ubuntu?05:43
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SNIais there any wiki info or a help pages on running ubuntu in chroot?05:43
Naliothafroman_, they both have man pages05:43
paulproteusstuNNed: Most Perl modules have Ubuntu packages.05:43
karstenmetalsand: Not particularly.  I don't run GNOME.  I markedly prefer text tools as they'll be consistent and googlable.05:43
tanekspeaking about windows... is there anyone here who has a working vmware workstation 5?05:43
paulproteusstuNNed: they're in the format e.g. libhtml-parser-perl for HTML::Parser05:43
stuNNedk05:43
stuNNedthnx paulproteus05:43
karstenmetalsand: Try googling "little red dot" for information.  It's kind of a non-starter.05:43
ds_is it possible to install from the live CD?05:43
hutchne body kno how to execute/install a file with a name like linuxq3demo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh05:43
afroman_Nalioth: yes, but it seems complicated05:43
tanekds_: no05:43
bob2ds_: not easily05:43
darkauditds_: you need the install cd05:43
paulproteusstuNNed: If you find you must download a package from CPAN that's not packaged, you should use dh_make_perl to make a package for it so that way the package system can track it and uninstall it easily.05:43
karstenhutch: 'file <filename>' says what?05:44
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afroman_Nalioth: can U guide me??05:44
ds_thanks05:44
mindsporehow can i get this audio cd to eject?05:44
hutchkarsten: ??05:44
SNIacool!05:44
pjoWhere is this on KDE 3 System->Preferences->Sessions Startup Programs Add  ?05:44
anto9uswoohoo, I've replaced the gnome foot with the ubuntu logo05:44
stuNNedpaulproteus: awesome thanks :D05:44
SNIak3b read the md5 within the iso and verified it05:44
karstenhutch: 'man file'05:44
metalsandkarsten: The output of the dmesg command has a lot of stuff05:44
Naliothafroman_, here we go: open terminal type "man <command you want to know about>" <hit enter>05:44
karstenmetalsand: Indeed it does.  'man grep'05:44
metalsandShould I just post stuff regarding eth0?05:44
karstenmetalsand: ... page through it with 'less'.  Find what's relevant (or you think might be).  Share it.05:45
hutchkarsten: the file name is linuxq3demo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh05:45
metalsandno IPv6 routers present05:45
afroman_Nalioth: I did that...05:45
karstenhutch: 'man file'05:45
mindsporehow can i get this audio cd to eject?05:45
hutchkarsten: man then linuxq3demo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh05:45
hutch?05:45
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afroman_nalioth: I don't c how to send the file05:45
hutchsorry...i'm still a noob05:45
karstenmetalsand: ...if you would care to help me help you by getting a way of transferring files, I could read the whole damned thing rather than your annotated commentary.05:45
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karstenhutch: No.  Literally.  Type "man file" in a terminal.05:45
Naliothafroman_, do you know how to use command line ftp in windoze?05:45
xMaximexhow can i edit gnome menu without menu-editor ?05:46
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karstenbob2: Where do you find them?05:46
afroman_no05:46
hutchkarsten: sorry...noob kinks05:46
hutchlol05:46
NaliothxMaximex, google the ubuntu website for "gnome menu editor"05:46
bob2karsten: the users?05:46
metalsandkarsten: Looks like we're done then for tonight :(05:46
NaliothxMaximex, there are several choices05:46
karstenbob2: Oi.05:46
karstenmetalsand: OK.05:46
metalsandWell, I'll just restart and it will work.05:46
karstenmetalsand: Buy a USB key.05:47
afroman_nalioth: let's start with the basics... how do U do it between Linux boxes05:47
] BreliC[karsten, get off your high horse05:47
karstenmetalsand: ...or a removable USB storage device of sorts.05:47
metalsandThen I'll bug you to help me to get my PCMCIA wireless card to work so I can copy/paste things05:47
karsten] BreliC[: Bring me a ladder.05:47
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hutchkarsten:  cant u just tell me how to install it05:47
karstenhutch: 'file <name of file>'05:47
Naliothafroman_, the same way you do between any boxen  "man ftp" as the command are the same for sftp as ftp (only sftp is secure)05:47
karstenhutch: It's probably a bash script.05:47
afroman_nalioth: I mean scp05:48
] BreliC[karsten, not a problem05:48
Naliothafroman_, the answers lie in your man pages05:48
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karsten] BreliC[: ...and a shrubbery.05:48
hutchkarsten:  linuxq3demo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh: ERROR: cannot open `linuxq3demo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh' (No such file or directory)05:48
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afroman_nalioth: scp user@host file user@host file???05:48
hutchkarsten:  thats after file linuxq3demo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh05:49
bluefoxicyhttp://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/lightsaber-7.jpg05:49
] BreliC[karsten, maybe something to remove the horseshoe too?05:49
SNIaanyone here have used SATA and been able to hotswap?05:49
karstenhutch: Right.  Hrm.05:49
karsten] BreliC[: From wher?05:49
karsten] BreliC[: .../er/ere/05:49
Naliothafroman_, i don't use scp, i use sftp05:49
] BreliC[karsten, you're a smart guy, i'm sure you can figure it out, or maybe the newbies will be glad to help you05:49
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afroman_Nalioth05:49
karstenhutch: Where'd you happen to put this file?05:49
karsten] BreliC[: Thank you kindly.05:50
afroman_Nalioth: ok... thx05:50
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Naliothbluefoxicy, aint that lightsaber stuff the funniest sh*t?05:50
afroman_Nalioth: ok... thx, I'm out05:50
mindsporeHow can I force a CD to eject?  I have an audio CD in, and it won't eject with gnome-cd or the eject button05:50
afroman_Nalioth: ok... thx, I'm out... thx a lot for ur help05:50
afroman_ciao05:50
Naliothafroman, use your man pages, then use the default galeon page (look for 'browse system docs" then ask uncle google05:50
hutchkarsten:  /home/username/05:50
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hutchkarsten: so for me it'd be /home/josh05:51
hutch*/home/josh/05:51
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karstenhutch: Right.  Is that where your terminal shell's at?  'cd' should put you there.05:51
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karstenhutch: So: open shell.  'cd; file <filename>'05:51
chavomindspore, try it as root, I had that problem the other day and sudo eject did the trick.05:51
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c-sichey, dont you just love when you close your buddy list in gaim before gnome-panel loads, and gets a chance to store gaim in the tray?05:52
mindsporechavo: lol, it said unable to eject.. but the tray opened05:52
HollisHello everyone05:52
chavoyeah, same here.05:52
c-sichiya05:52
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HollisHas anyone received hoary CDs from the mail?05:52
jsgAwayI got some but i got it from the UDU conference *grin*05:53
pce-mattyhollis: not yet, but I'm based in Australia :)05:53
HollisI orded mine in February and still don't have it05:53
spacepopeyeHow can I remove the minimize window animation in gnome?05:53
hutchkarsten: same answer man05:53
metalsandWhat's the terminal command to scna for networks using Wireless Tools?05:53
hutchkarsten: same error msg05:53
jsgAwayiwlist scanning05:53
HollisBecause I have a band, and when we do shows I plan on handing out a 2 pack CD set05:54
hutchLINUX RULES!!! DOWN WITH M$!!!05:54
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hutchLOL05:54
c-sichollis...pretty slow...05:54
HollisOne CD will be our music, and hte other will be Ubuntu05:54
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HollisLmao05:54
jsgAwayHollis: that's awesome man05:54
c-sicpretty neat05:54
HollisOf course I will include infomration on installation, what Linux is, ect.05:54
] BreliC[Hollis, hmmm good idea.  i think i'll do that too next time we play05:54
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hutchkarsten: screw it...its not worth it05:55
hutchlol05:55
c-sicc-sic is my new nick...I read it on some mail, the code csic, and it sounds like seasick, so I made that my new nick...05:55
karstenhutch: Try:  bash -f <file>05:55
karstenhutch: ...on a wild-ass-guess.  Mind:  I prefer looking at scripts before running them randomly.05:55
c-sicHollis: is there a way to follow up on your order at the web site?05:56
karstenhutch: SUspect if you read thet install docs for whatever it is you're trying to install it might have some pointers.05:56
jsgAwayHollis: if you pull that thing together, make sure you inform mako about it so he can put it on the website or on the list05:56
Naliothhutch, its always nice to read the script b4 using it05:56
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hutchkarsten: bash: linuxq3demo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh: No such file or directory05:56
pce-mattyi'm going to knock up to ubuntu boxes today, both with webcams and microphones and I'm gonna set one up in our main store and the other up in the workshop (ie: they're gonna be video intercoms) - any recommendations for what software I should use to achieve this, and recommendations for webcams that'll work out of the box with Hoary (i've got a couple of logitech messengers here)05:56
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HollisWhat list?05:56
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hutchkarsten: it didnt come with any docs or ne thing, just the .gz.sh file i downloaded from fileplanet.com05:56
jsgAwayHollis: ubuntu traffic/sounder05:56
HollisOh, okay05:56
c-sicwhen in february, mid, late or early?05:57
karstenhutch: This is the point in the day I tell you to RTFM.  Sorry.05:57
HollisMid05:57
metalsandIs there a command to disable/enable the radio of wireless devices?05:57
c-siccould be some time still, but they are pretty ripe to get here...05:58
c-sictherem anyow...05:58
c-sicHow Long Will It Take? Short Answer: 4-6 Weeks05:58
nomasteryodametalsand, laptop?05:58
c-sicthats what the FAQ says05:58
HollisYea, when did they start shipping05:58
metalsandYes, nomasteryoda05:58
nomasteryodawhat about the keyboard Fn + wireless on/off05:58
c-sicfrom when you put in the order05:58
nomasteryodamost have those05:58
HollisAround April 8th when they released it on the website05:58
nomasteryodaif built in05:58
metalsandnomasteryoda: I'm worried about that05:58
HollisOh okay05:59
metalsandBut I'm not sure Linux detects that05:59
nomasteryodamine does05:59
nomasteryodaubuntu and suse05:59
Prediussudo ifconfig <device> down05:59
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metalsandGreat05:59
metalsandIt went down05:59
metalsandbut now it won't go up05:59
nomasteryodametalsand, what about using the tray tool05:59
Prediussudo ifconfig <device> up05:59
c-sicHollis: have you tried logging into shipit?06:00
nomasteryodafor network settings06:00
metalsandstill shows disconnected06:00
c-sicHollis: this page has the info: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/shipit/ .06:00
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c-sicread through that, that is your vbest source of info.06:00
Nalioth?? restricted06:00
nomasteryodametalsand, what about "ifup wlan0"06:00
c-sicno more bot, I think06:00
metalsandeth0 is my device name06:00
HollisThanks06:00
nomasteryodaok06:00
Nalioththought bots didnt need rest06:01
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c-sicgotta ask that lexxan guy when I see him,06:01
c-sicwelcome3.06:01
HollisHow exactly do they ship this all for free06:01
HollisWithout losing tons of money06:01
c-sichehe06:01
metalsandifup: interface eh0 already configured06:01
metalsandLinux sucks. :(06:01
metalsandShows disconnected in the network status panel icon06:01
c-sicfor one, the CEO of Canonical(the company behind Ubuntu) is a millionaire.06:01
jordanaui miss the bot :C06:01
NaliothHollis, he's richer than god06:01
c-sichaha06:01
jordanauc-sic, what did he do before ubuntu?06:02
c-sicricher than god, gotta like the controversy.06:02
c-sicread it up...06:02
HollisLol, I see06:02
c-sicmark shuittleworth06:02
c-sicshuttleworth, is it?06:02
karstenmetalsand: ifup / ifdown are not reliable.06:02
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karstenmetalsand: 'ifconfig' will tell you if the device is actually configured.  'ifup/ifdown' may think so when it's not true.06:02
HollisDo the CDs have any artwork on the cover?06:03
HollisOr are they just blank06:03
karstenHollis: Yes.06:03
metalsandCool. So I input a command and it just doesn't care.06:03
c-sicsome...06:03
HollisAh, nice06:03
nomasteryodakarsten, but if the device was working... and he took down, why won't it come back up06:03
c-siclook pretty good.06:03
mariamcan someone please help me figure out why I can't print to my windows computer?06:03
karstennomasteryoda: Good question.  I gave up trying to find out a while ago.06:03
c-sicthey are in a paper cover, cardboard...(ESL here, not sure what its called)...06:03
nomasteryodakarsten, lol yea... me too06:04
nomasteryodai just tweak until it works06:04
nomasteryoda=)06:04
c-sicmariam: have you done any setup?06:04
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elchicanoouch..windows printing problem???06:04
Naliothmariam, its a windows computer?06:04
elchicanowou'dnt want to trouble shoot that no matter what06:04
mariamthe computer is connected to winXP06:04
HollisAwesome, so I was going to provide the jewel cases my self for when I give them out at our concertsx06:04
mariami have Samba up and running06:04
nomasteryodamariam, if you have sp2, then firewall maybe06:04
HollisGuess I don't need too06:04
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mariamno SP206:04
Naliothisnt there a windoze channel?06:05
c-sicyeah, they are in a nice little case..06:05
mariamwhen i do smbclient -L gagik -N06:05
nomasteryodaabout how long before I get my ubuntu disks? ordered about 1 mo. ago06:05
mariami can see the shared printer06:05
dr_willisactually ya need to looks at the CUPS configuration dont ya. and add a new smb shareed printer dont ya.06:05
nomasteryodapermissions then06:05
nomasteryodaon winbox06:05
metalsandIf it wasn't for the Open source software support I would have given up Linux the first day I installed :D06:05
nomasteryodametalsand, lol06:05
c-sicyou are meek....06:05
c-sic:-P06:05
nomasteryodatha's tha spirit06:05
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mariammonaster, here's when i get stuck06:05
mariam/usr/sbin/lpadmin -p HPpsc900 -v smb://gagik:pass@gagik/hppsc900 -P /home/mariam/HP-PSC_950-hpijs.ppd06:06
mariamit says lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused06:06
c-sicIsnt it easier to connect the printer to the Linux, and then access it through the windows?06:07
dr_willishmm - dosent " smb://gagik:pass@gagik/hppsc900" need to be quoted?06:07
nomasteryodamariam, try adding the hostname of your ubuntu box to the lmhosts file06:07
mariamc-sic, i wish i could, but that's not an option06:07
nomasteryodaalways helped for me06:07
c-sicok...06:07
mariamnomaster, where do I add the hostname?06:07
mariamthe linux and windows pcs are both set to MSHOME06:08
nomasteryodaunder network props i think06:08
nomasteryodak06:08
mariamdr_willis, let me try quoting it06:08
mariamnope, same result06:08
hutchkarsten: RTFM06:08
dr_willismariam,  youve tried the cups gui interface? i think it can scan the network for printers.06:08
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c-sichaha, hutch, is that a revenge?06:09
mariamdr_willis, you mean the 'add pritner" interface06:09
hutchhuh?06:09
dr_willisgetting cups to use printers shared by xp box's has always been rather trivially easy.06:09
hutchc-sic: what does it mean06:09
mariamfrom the System>Administration menu06:09
hutchc-sic: RTFM06:09
dr_williscups has its own web interface.. and  ubuntu has the gnome one.. or if you install kde. theres one there also.06:09
karstenhutch: ??06:09
jordanauhutch, Read the f*cking manual06:09
hutchc-sic: what does RTFM mean?06:09
c-sickarsten: hutch: This is the point in the day I tell you to RTFM.  Sorry.06:09
karstenhutch: Read the Fine Manual.06:09
c-sicread the fucking manual06:10
dr_willisRead the Fun Manual.06:10
c-sicsure06:10
dr_willis:P06:10
hutchoh06:10
hutchmy bad06:10
hutchlol06:10
hutchlmao06:10
hutchhaha06:10
Naliotheither manual will do06:10
hutchsorry bout that06:10
sidjphow can i install amule for ubuntu from apt-get?06:10
mariamdr_willis, what's the command to restart cups?06:10
c-sicright...any of them, I guess.06:10
c-sictried apt-get install amule?06:10
dr_willismariam,  not sure. :P  /etc/init.d/cupsd restart perhaps.06:10
c-sicsudo apt-get install amule06:11
hutchanyone know what this means: "W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>06:12
hutchE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)06:12
hutchE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?06:12
hutch"06:12
sidjpi try but is fail06:12
mariamthanks dr_w06:12
karstenhutch: My point being:  you're installing something you've pulled off an arbitrary website, it should come with installation instructions.  Read them.06:12
Naliothhutch, are you root when you do whatever you are doing?06:12
karstenhutch: ...are you running as root?  Is there another instance of aptitude, apt-get, dpkg, or synaptic running?06:12
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c-sicmariam, you are running a server on the computer you are using as a client, I dont know if that will work.06:12
metalsandSeriously06:12
hutchall: brb06:13
metalsandLinux has a TERRIBLE GUI for network status06:13
mariamc-sic, what am i supposed to do?06:13
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metalsandOr at least Ubuntu does.06:13
mariamwhat's ther ight way to do it?06:13
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c-sicNot sure again, but, it seems taht you are running a server on the client comptuer06:13
c-sicwelcome back...06:13
mariamjust following some of the HOWTO's i found06:14
mariambut none seem to work06:14
mariamstupid windows06:14
c-sicseems like you need to run the server on the computer that has the printer...so it can serve other computers that dont..06:14
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c-sichave not done any printer server installation myself yet, though.06:14
karstenmetalsand: Suggested improvements?06:14
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c-sicshiny:P06:15
KarillAre you installing the printer server on ubuntu06:15
Karill?06:15
anethemai actually got network printing working today..was so damn happy06:15
anethemajust using smb06:15
KarillIf so just install cups it has a nice new linux user web gui06:15
c-sicKarill: mariam has a windows computer with a printer, want to allow the linux computer on the network to access the pritner06:15
anethemai cant fucking believe how easy ubuntu is...i was on slack before..ive never been so impressed in my life haha06:15
sidjpplease some one help me! i need to install amule!06:15
KarillHmm06:16
Naliothanethema, you are hurting my tender ears06:16
KarillShare it out and mount it as dev/lpd06:16
mariamok, figrued it out06:16
c-sicsidjp: did you try http://ubuntuguide.org/#amule ?06:16
c-sicworks?06:16
mariamyeah06:16
anethemasorry Nalioth  heh06:16
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c-sicawesome!06:16
c-sicgood work...06:16
anethemasidjp, apt-get install amule06:16
mariamhad to run these commands:06:16
anethemaapt-get install amule-utils06:16
mariam/usr/sbin/lpadmin -p HPpsc900 -v "smb://user:pass@gagik/hppsc900" -P /home/mariam/HP-PSC_950-hpijs.ppd06:16
mariam/usr/bin/enable HPpsc90006:16
mariam/usr/sbin/accept HPpsc90006:16
mariam/usr/sbin/lpadmin -d HPpsc90006:16
mariamthen restart cups06:16
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mariamfor some odd reason06:17
c-sicpretty nice....06:17
hutchkarsten: i made it so NO instances of synaptic are running more than once, i'm not in root06:17
mariamthanks c-sic :)06:17
anethemasidjp: did you get that ?06:17
c-sicthats my new nick:)06:17
mariamthanks to dr_willis06:17
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sidjpthanks wait06:17
anethemak06:17
hutchkarsten: when i go to synaptic package manager -->edit->reload package info06:18
anethemasorry you also need sudo06:18
anethemasudo apt-get install amule06:18
anethemaand amule-utils06:18
karstenhutch: ps aux | egrep '(synaptic|apt|dpkg)'06:18
anethemahas anyone here got skype running well ?06:18
a_monkeyi've installed unrar, but Archive Manager gives me an error saying that rar is unsupported06:18
hutchkarsten:  i get this msg when i'm done: W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>06:18
a_monkeycan anybody help?06:18
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anethemaa_monkey, it worked for me when i installed rar and unrar06:18
hutchkarsten: where in the world does THAT go06:18
c-sica_monkey: are you on a pc?06:18
sidjpnot find that06:19
anethemasid: did you add extra repositories?06:19
c-sicsidjp: try following this page: http://ubuntuguide.org/#amule .06:19
karstenhutch: bash shell.  It's a command, will return any instances of programs that could interfere.06:19
anethemayeah, listen to c-sic06:19
karstenhutch: Not familiar with that error, not sure of fix.06:19
a_monkeyanethema: oh. i have to install rar.06:19
c-sicthe error says taht you are not allowed to access the repository called security.06:20
anethemamake sure to update your keys06:20
anethemalike ubuntuguide says.06:20
anethemaubuntuguide is such a sweet site06:20
c-sica_monkey: are you on a PC?06:21
anethemathe person who made it diserves much fellatio06:21
c-sicahahaha06:21
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c-sicjiyuu is his nick here..06:21
a_monkeyc-sic: what do you mean?06:21
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anethemajiyuu0, ?06:21
c-sicright06:21
a_monkeyc-sic: i'm on an emac with ubuntu installed over os x06:21
anethemajiyuu0: 10 high class hookers are on the way to your house06:21
c-sicthat is why...06:21
c-sicthats a PPC, just fyi...06:21
anethemadoes the ppc not have rar and unrar?06:22
c-sicthere is no rar for that that I found so far...what do you want to do?06:22
anethemadoh06:22
c-sicno rar, only unrar06:22
anethemathat sucks06:22
anethemamakes archive manager kind of useless06:22
c-sickinda, I guess...there are worse problems...:(06:22
anethemathats true06:22
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Ap`g0neI'm seriously going to rip out my hair06:22
c-siclike, no airport extreme support06:23
anethemanice06:23
anethemayeah06:23
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c-sicheh06:23
metalsand2My temples HURT because this is so freaking frustrating06:23
anethemawell, not much point spending all that money on mac hardware then installing linux is there heheh06:23
c-sicwhat are you trying to do, metalsand?06:23
c-sicrelaxxx06:23
anethemayeah06:23
dr_willisc-sic,  apt-get install rar-2.8006:23
metalsand2get BOTH of my network cards working06:23
Naliothc-sic don't hold your breath for APX support anytime soon06:23
anethemaman i love ubuntu06:23
anethemai never thought i'd switch to anything from slack06:23
sigleave off the -2.8006:23
metalsand2NEITHER of them work06:23
anethemabut god damn ive never had anything like it06:24
sigjust: apt-get install rar06:24
metalsand2and I've spent all day trying to get them to work.06:24
c-sicfor what?06:24
c-sica PPC?06:24
anethemahe is on PPC06:24
anethemano rar i guess06:24
c-sicyou tried yourself?06:24
dr_willisHmm it just installed.. :P but no binary found lol06:24
dr_willisi cheat and use cedega and winrar06:24
anethemawinrar is an amazing program06:24
Naliothwho is on PPC?06:24
anethemawish there was a linux ver06:24
karstenNalioth: You are.06:25
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dr_willisanethema,  yea - its very handy and good in ways.. and annoying in others. Lol.06:25
anethemaa_monkey is06:25
c-sicme sometimes...06:25
dr_willisanethema,  it works very well with wine/cedega06:25
anethemaive never had winrar annoy me in windows06:25
c-siche is too.06:25
a_monkeyapt-cache search rar gives me no results06:25
c-sica_monkey: what are you trying to do?06:25
c-sicI told you it is not there.06:25
a_monkeyeven though multiverse is enabled in my apt sources.list06:25
Naliothme? wow06:25
a_monkeyc-sic: really?06:25
a_monkeyc-sic: why not?06:25
anethematry searching in synaptic06:25
anethemamight get lucky06:25
anethemaafter adding all possible sources06:26
metalsand2I've never had anything annoy me in windows (fib)06:26
anethemahaha i hate windows06:26
metalsand2Everything I do in linux, however, takes 8 hours.06:26
anethemaso much stuff that pisses me off06:26
anethemai used to have that problem untill ubuntu06:26
dr_willispoor metalsand2.. :P06:26
metalsand2Ubuntu is my first Linux install06:26
anethemawhat network cards are they metalsand06:26
metalsand2So, that could be the issue06:26
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metalsand2Intel PRO/wireless 2915 A/B/G (PCI)06:27
danko123456no lucky, anathema06:27
jordanaumetalsand, are you new to linux?06:27
anethemaOH06:27
anethemawireless06:27
danko123456there is no rar06:27
metalsand2Senao NL 2511 PLUS Ext 2 (PCMCIA)06:27
anethemamight need to use NDISWrapper metalsand06:27
danko123456a_monkey: what are you trying to get done?06:27
danko123456I mean, why are you installing rar?06:27
metalsand2anethema: I've gotten one to work forsure06:27
metalsand2Now it just decided it doesn't want to naymore06:27
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metalsand2and it ALWAYS shows disconnected in the panel icon06:27
metalsand2Flipping retarded.06:27
anethemaseen this ? http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/06:28
Naliothdanko123456, no rar?06:28
danko123456well, metalsand, look on the bright side, at least you did not buy an apple.06:28
danko123456nope06:28
danko123456not at all.06:28
metalsand2That's true, Danko.06:28
danko123456only unrar06:28
anethemathats hurtin06:28
danko123456so..give it some time, raelly it is a matter of time...06:28
anethemaif you buy an apple, at least use osx06:28
anethemaits a very nice OS06:28
danko123456and someone knowledgeable coming to the #06:28
anethemawhy spend so much money on outdated hardware if you dont use osx06:28
danko123456it is almost time for that...06:28
anethemaheheh06:28
danko123456you are just awful...06:29
metalsand2I'm seriously going to scream.06:29
danko123456it is pretty good.06:29
danko123456give it time, metal...06:29
jordanaumetalsand, whats the problem?06:29
metalsand2I can't.06:29
dr_willisHmm - im useing the  sources list at ubuntuguide.org and i have rar and rar-2.806:29
danko123456why does it have to get connected now?06:29
metalsand2I've spent EIGHT hours trying to get this to work... on/off06:29
danko123456on a PPC, dr_willis?06:29
metalsand2and the only thing I've done is gone backwards06:29
jordanaumetalsand2, what to work?06:29
metalsand2At least I COULD connect to the internet this morning06:30
anethemahas anyone here got skype working in Ubuntu ? (with other sounds..it doesnt have native alsa support)06:30
metalsand2jordanau: My internal wireless card06:30
dr_willisdanko123456,  ahh ppc.. You may indeade be SOL. :P06:30
jordanaumetalsand2, are you using ndiswrapper?06:30
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metalsand2I've been tyring to get my PCMCIA wireless card (newer and better - more software support)06:30
danko123456told you:)06:30
metalsand2jordanau: no06:30
dr_willisdanko123456,  i would check the rarsoft homepage. for their own packages06:30
jordanaumetalsand2, then at least your card has native linux drivers06:30
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REdscan i use official debian http sources, to install packages or upgrade ubuntu06:31
danko123456i dont care about it...a_monkey was trying to figure it out...06:31
jordanaumetalsand2, it took me a day or two to get everything up and running, once you get it right, it is smooth sailing06:31
danko123456and yeah...06:31
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metalsand2jordanau: I GOT my internal card up and running06:31
c-sicthats my nhew nick06:31
metalsand2Then my sail freaking exploded06:31
metalsand2and now I'm shipwreaked06:31
metalsand2(Except for my wonderful luxurious yacht that is keeping me afload (Windows XP Pro)06:32
c-sici liked your story06:32
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jordanauspeaking of shipwrecked, this weeks LOST was awesome06:32
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c-sic(ntil you added that)06:32
anethemayeah it was pretty good06:32
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anethemathank god for azureus beeing programmed in java06:32
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anethemaand rss06:32
metalsand2c-sic: XP works, it just doesn't have all the software support that intially attracted me to Linux06:33
c-sicgive it half an hour...06:33
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metalsand2I've given it 16 halfs of horus.06:33
jordanaumetalsand2, your yacht has a leaky hull but you cant see it because the holes are underwater :)06:33
amonkeyanethema: i tried looking at the azureus code to make a change, that suff is hard to follow. 8 billion different classes.06:33
c-sici mean at this point...crimsun, and bob2 will be here soon likely, those are your ppl06:33
metalsand2bob2 is mean to me :P06:34
metalsand2He tells me to read, read and read.06:34
c-sicas for me...Im about to blaze...so from now on, dont take it personal:-P06:34
metalsand2I don't know what to read :(06:34
c-siche tells you what to read, and he is mean to everyone...06:34
c-sickinda mean.06:34
jordanaua_monkey, are you still trying to use unrar?06:35
anethemayeah doh06:35
anethemaim not a programmer06:35
anethemanot for computers anyways06:35
Naliothmetalsand2, yes read read read man pages, google, faqs06:35
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anethemaelectronics only06:35
anethemahaha06:35
c-sicscreq a_monkey he is not too eager to get help, it seems.06:35
Naliothif you learn how to do it yourself, you'll be better for it metalsand206:35
jordanaumetalsand2, bob2 is teaching you to fish06:35
metalsand2I don't need to fish06:36
dr_willisHe dont need no fish! :P  he needs ANswers!06:36
metalsand2I had sol tonight, and I didn't even have to cook.06:36
dr_willisinstant gratification!06:36
c-sicwhats sol?06:36
anethemabber?06:36
anethemabeer?06:36
anethemahaha06:36
dr_willisSole/06:36
anethemaor..somethign else06:36
anethemait is a beer tho06:36
anethemahaha06:36
dr_willisFlounder. :P carp!06:36
c-sictoo geographically specific06:36
c-sicfor me...06:36
c-siceven though I am just north...06:37
metalsand2With Linux I need a rod, line, worms... Then I have to leave my house, go to the ocean, sit for HOURS waiting for a bite, then fight fight fight until I happen to get lucky and catch a fish06:37
c-sicnot really...06:37
anethemathen it gets off the hook!06:37
c-sicdepends...06:37
anethemahhehe06:37
c-sicbut yeah, its fun...06:37
anethemai dunno, im just so amazed at how easy ubuntu is06:37
metalsand2Then when I get the fish (my wireless card works)06:37
metalsand2It decideds it likes the ocean better06:37
jordanaumetalsand2, but think about how good you feel about yourself when you are successful :)06:37
metalsand2and jumps back in.06:37
anethemai was soo impressed when i installed it06:37
anethemaand grub just worked06:37
metalsand2hahahha06:37
c-sicwhat have you tried, metalsand2?06:37
anethematook me forever to get that shit set up in slack06:37
metalsand2Grub didn't work the first time for me06:38
anethemasoo long06:38
metalsand2In fact06:38
dr_willisor get a book or 2 and sit on the toilet and read. :P06:38
metalsand2it broke my XP install06:38
jordanaumetalsand2, what kind of card do you have?06:38
anethemai dont have windows installed06:38
metalsand2Intel Pro/Wireless 2915 A/B/G06:38
metalsand2It's worked before06:38
c-sicI was trying to make grub boot my xp from the other hard drive, and I gave up thinking it is impossible06:38
anethemacedega handles all my needs for games06:38
jordanaumetalsand2, what made it quit?06:38
metalsand2I have NO idea06:38
jordanaumetalsand2, was it random?06:38
dr_willisI cant get Cedega to handle GUildwars yet. :(06:38
c-sicwhat made it work?06:39
metalsand2I was trying to get my 2nd wireless card (PMCIA) to work06:39
metalsand2and did ifdown eth006:39
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jordanaumetalsand2, so that is why06:39
c-sicso, just reboot,,,06:39
metalsand2now EVERYTHING , including GUI commands and terminal commands won't put it back up06:39
c-sicthat will reset yuor interfaces06:39
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c-sicits all about being funky, as heavy D just said...06:40
jordanaumetalsand2, are you connecting via wlan0 or the new one you tried to install?06:40
c-sicplus eth0 is not your wireless is it?06:40
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anethemaeth0 shouldnt be wireless06:40
Ksmurfhello all06:40
anethemashould be wlan006:40
c-sicyo shaw!!06:40
jordanauKsmurf, hi06:40
metalsand2jordanau: I'm connected via eth006:40
metalsand2eth2 is my PCMCIA card06:40
jordanaumetalsand2, but you want to be connected via wlan0 right?06:41
c-sicit deppends only on what you call it, dont it?06:41
metalsand2but it's never worked... I downloaded the drivers for with with synaptic06:41
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metalsand2but I guess I have to configure them, and i don't even know where to begin with doing that06:41
c-sicmr milenko which language do you speak?06:41
metalsand2wlan0... jord, there is nothing listed as that06:41
c-sicin your interfaceS?06:41
metalsand2My only devices listed in network settings are eth0 (My internal wireless card), eth1 (My uncofigured network inteface card) and eth2 (my PCMCIA card)06:42
metalsand2None of them work06:42
metalsand2When I try to boot it just stalls on *Confiruging network interfaces for minutes06:42
Dethreadmetalsand2, ctrl+c out of that and configure it manually (dhclient eth<num>) once you're in06:43
c-sicthats cause you configured it through GUI, right?06:43
jordanaumetalsand2, http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/06:43
metalsand2c-sic, I've configured it through iwconfig and the GUI06:43
jordanaumetalsand2, google gave me that, have you read into it06:43
anethemai showd him that already hehe06:43
Ksmurfthe noob questions of the night... 1> I have a 200 GB harddrive I want to use for ubantu and VMware... how should I set my partions up  (sizes and file system).  2> I am also wondering about the difference between the 386 586 and 686 kernel sources.. I have a P4e if06:43
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Ksmurfthat matters'06:44
metalsand2jordanau: I don't get why I would need that06:44
jordanauKsmurf, how much ram do you have?06:44
metalsand2I've had it working before06:44
anethemaKsmurf, if its just ubuntu and vmware (within ubuntu)06:44
Ksmurfjord.... 102406:44
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jordanauKsmurf, then you probably dont need a swap06:44
anethemaits always good to have a swap06:45
junior_wouldnt hurt though, especially with vmware06:45
NaliothKsmurf, use the highest kernel for what you have06:45
anethemai would do a 512mb swap parition, and the rest for ubuntu06:45
junior_i have a gig and a 512 swap. runs very nicely06:45
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jordanaujunior_, i have 512 and 512 swap06:45
c-sicdepending on what he will do, he dont need a swap...my 512 never almost uses swap...06:45
anethemayeah06:45
c-sicor almost never06:45
anethemaits just good to have06:45
anethemawiht a big hdd no reason to not have one06:46
c-sicright...2 gigs no doubt...06:46
c-sic:)06:46
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Ksmurfi'm going to be using it for all things06:46
anethemaheh06:46
c-sicbut yeah, me and you dont really know that....06:46
anethemahe said 200gb hdd06:46
metalsand2Ugh06:46
anethemaso i figure, whats 512mb for the swap06:46
anethemahaha06:46
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Ksmurfathena... I have another 200 I will be bringing into the mix\06:46
Ksmurfas well for storage06:47
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jordanauKsmurf, so 200 just for ubuntu right?06:47
c-sicwho is this milenko dude:)06:47
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Mr_Milenko:P06:47
c-sicheh, awesome06:47
c-sicmake some partitions, obviously.06:48
c-sicwhatever...06:48
c-sic200G06:48
anethemai wouldnt...ooone biggie06:48
anethemahaha06:48
c-sicawesome06:48
anethemause dirs to organize06:48
c-sicfolders...06:48
metalsand2What Ubuntu just destroy my drivers for my card?06:48
Ksmurfyes I have them set up on my doze06:48
anethemafolders if you're a windows user06:48
anethemahehe06:48
metalsand2I don't get why it woudln't work06:48
metalsand2It just stopped...06:48
c-sicit will work, ask...06:48
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karstenmetalsand2: I think you made that point an hour or two ago.06:48
metalsand2It still isn't working karsten06:49
metalsand2lol...06:49
karstenmetalsand2: Why don't you call it a night, buy a USB pen drive, and come back tomorrow.06:49
Ksmurfk I got the small swap drive part ...06:49
metalsand2I'm on the verge of throwing my laptop out the window06:49
Naliothmetalsand2, throw it this way06:49
jowehi, I'm new to Ubuntu and this is my first time on here. I don't have much experience with Linux yet, but I'm working on it!06:49
metalsand2because, I just DON'T understand why if it worked originally06:49
anethemathrow it into a box and ship it to me06:49
jordanaumetalsand2, go ahead and chunk it :)06:49
metalsand2why I can't get it to work again06:49
anethemajowe, nice..keep at it06:50
icebalmjowe: yay :D06:50
karstenmetalsand2: Call it a night and chill, dude.06:50
metalsand2No matter how upset I got, I couldn't. :P06:50
jowethanks06:50
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metalsand2Brand new $1700 from Dell06:50
Naliothwelcome, jowe06:50
anethemamake sure to go to www.ubuntuguide.org06:50
jordanaujowe, do you have anything you want to discuss in detail?06:50
joweI'm wondering does anyone know how I can configure my laptop wireless? it's built in.06:50
c-sicmetalsand2: maybe the 2915 is not supported.06:50
anethemaand use it to follow instructions on software you want06:50
metalsand2BWAAHAHHAHAHAHHA.06:50
anethemahaha doh another wireless problem06:50
jordanaujowe, yeah ask metalsand206:50
metalsand2Have fun, Jowe.06:50
c-sichaha06:50
c-sicawesome...06:50
jowemetalsand2  - thanks lol06:51
c-sichttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards06:51
KsmurfI'll be using VMware for my 'doze work till I find altens.  and openBSD to teach myself UNIX and to try Kubantu and other distros06:51
c-sicmaybe it is there...06:51
joweI'll check it out now. thanks. :)06:51
metalsand2Jowe: start with this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto06:51
jowemetalsand2 - thanks. I'll check it out now. It'll be an adventure, I'm sure.06:51
jordanaujowe, also the introduction to linux at www.tdlp.org is a great way to learn about linux operation in general06:51
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metalsand2Jowe: You have no idea how true that statement is06:52
anethemawatch06:52
anethema2mins later06:52
anethemajowe: "i got it working guys thanks!"06:52
anethemahaha06:52
anethemametalsand2: "Arrrgaah!"06:52
metalsand2Just remember adventures don't always have happy endings :P06:52
c-sicanethema: lol, dude.06:52
jordanaujowe, just remember this when it comes to configuring wireless, it is not really that hard take your time and work through the howtos if they apply06:52
KsmurfI dloaded the 386 install disk for ubantu.... should I be using 586 or 686 sources?06:53
c-sicmetalsand2: you are freaking out for no reason, my wireless dont work at all...06:53
jordanaumetalsand2, yeah but a sad ending to a great adventure is better than no adventure at all06:53
metalsand2Yes, and doy ou have a wireless card?06:53
metalsand2No, Jord. That isn't true. :P06:53
anethemaim using the bootable install/live dvd06:53
c-sicyou cant just buy some computer and expect it to work right away, give it some time, and relax, ask many times, some ppl come...06:53
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metalsand2I know, c-sic06:53
c-sicand yours may work, mine dont.06:53
metalsand2I'm going to be in here every night until I get this working.06:54
c-sicso, chilll06:54
Dethreadmetalsand2, my wireless worked right out of the box ;)06:54
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metalsand2Deth: Mine did too :)06:54
metalsand2But it decided it didn't want to anymore.06:54
jordanaumetalsand2, so just start over06:54
Dethreadmetalsand2, and continues to work06:54
c-sicso, how long have you been using Ubuntu?06:54
metalsand2Like 4 days.06:54
ecalotin which package I can find /usr/include/sys/types.h ?06:54
anethemaive been using linux for like 5-6 years and im so amazed at how easy it is! haha06:54
metalsand2The first day I spent 5 hours getting a widescreen resolution working with Ubuntu.06:54
Naliothjordanau, you know you're a geek thru and thru06:54
anethemathe only thing i liked better in slack was the rc.d system06:54
c-sicok, Ive had it since warty almost.06:55
anethemainit scripts06:55
c-sicFirst, my internet didnt work, cause Im not on DHCP, for one...06:55
anethemaamazed at how easy ubuntu is that is06:55
c-sicand so on...relax...06:55
anethemanot linux in general hehe06:55
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jordanauNalioth, yeah i just changed my major to software engineering after realizing how much i hate chemical engineering06:55
karstenmetalsand2: There's a few things here which may come as some solace.  Among them, Linux doesn't tend to randomly reorganize itself from out from under you.06:55
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karstenNalioth: I hear it's a bloodbath.06:55
Naliothmetalsand2, unlike windzoe which changes itself to suit its mood06:56
Dethreadjordanau, which school do you go to?06:56
anethemakarsten,  unless you use redhat/mandrake06:56
anethemahaha06:56
Naliothkarsten, REALLY?06:56
KsmurfNalioth... highest kerrnal... what do u mean?06:56
karstenNalioth: If you believe what you hear on IRC, yeah.06:56
metalsand2karsten: What does solace mean?06:56
jordanauNalioth, no my favorite, we were playing a drinking game "never have i ever" and my friend drank after someone asked if you ever masturbated to anime porn, now thats geek06:56
NaliothKsmurf, if you are running a P4, use the 686 stuff06:56
jordanauDethread, Auburn06:56
pjoHello  i have questions on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27811.html06:56
metalsand2I'm too lazy to alt+tab over to firefox and dictionary search :)06:56
karstenanethema: Even that, somewhat within reason.  There's a certain level of inertia to the command line.06:57
pjoCan anybody help me ?06:57
Ksmurfeven if I insatll the 386 install disk?06:57
karstenanethema: Though I can't remember how many FW methods I've forgetten...06:57
jordanauDethread, you?06:57
anethemaedit the wrong config file by hand tho...and kiss your install goodbye it seems06:57
anethemahaha06:57
karstenpjo: Ask06:57
Naliothjordanau, damn and i thought i was bad, buying my tix more than month ahead of time06:57
metalsand2Cool06:57
metalsand2iwlist scanning06:57
anethemagot to use all the stupid settings editors06:57
metalsand2display my network06:57
Dethreadjordanau, Cal Poly06:57
pjokarsten  thanks   i got some eroors06:57
metalsand2iwlist eth0 scanning06:57
NaliothKsmurf, you have to use the 386 installer06:57
karstenanethema: cfengine / cvs are your friends.06:57
metalsand2Displays some random network, and not mine06:57
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KsmurfNalioth K06:57
pjoshall I paste it to home page ?06:57
metalsand2Why is Ubuntu so random?06:57
Naliothlater you can upgrade your stuff to 686 if it applies06:57
anethemahaha ill just never use redhat or anything like it again06:57
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Naliothmetalsand2, random?06:58
jordanauDethread, i am looking forward to taking java next semester, did you know that jGRASP is developed by auburn?06:58
karstenpjo: Paste to paster.06:58
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karstenpjo: Website.  Or #flood.06:58
Dethreadjordanau, I have never heard of jGRASP06:58
pjokarsten  shall we go to other channel ?06:58
jordanauDethread, at least its not southern cal06:58
c-sicpjo: did you ask on kubuntu too?06:58
KsmurfNalioth Just through synaptic?06:58
anethemapjo, use pastebin06:58
jordanauDethread, java ide06:58
neighborleehey people..where do I get the printer command that say gedit uses to print to my printer...I need it for gimp-print ...????06:58
anethemato paste06:58
metalsand2What's wrong with Southern Ca06:58
NaliothKsmurf, yup06:58
metalsand2I love SoCal.06:58
Dethreadjordanau, I use vim or Eclipse if I have to :)06:58
anethemai wanna go dirtbiking in socal06:58
anethemasounds nice06:58
anethemaexcept for the enviro nazis06:59
c-sicsocalled socal06:59
jordanaumetalsand2, they were ranked number 1 in college football and auburn was 206:59
metalsand2Ah.06:59
jordanauDethread, check out jGRASP06:59
pjothis channel is busy  so where can I go to ask questions ?06:59
KsmurfNalioth Even though I'm running... will I have to change grub to reflect the chnge?06:59
dr_willisneighborlee,  could use just 'lpr' or I perfer the program 'xpp'  for more controll.. but iwas thinking gedit saw myinstalled printers allready06:59
c-sicjsut ask here again.06:59
metalsand2Football sucks... But we're best at almost everything, so that isn't surprising :P06:59
anethemawhats your question pjo06:59
metalsand2Girls, however. I do care, so that's a big plus ;)06:59
pjook06:59
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NaliothKsmurf, i believe that when you upgrade, synaptic (or apt) does it for you06:59
pjowhere shall I paste the errors ?06:59
KsmurfNalioth cool... thanks07:00
metalsand2The channel flood, pjo07:00
jordanaupastebin07:00
anethemapjo, use pastebin07:00
karstenmetalsand2: What's wrong with SoCal is not enough rain, earthquakes, fires, or landslides.07:00
metalsand2Or pastebin.com07:00
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pjook channel flood07:00
Dethreadjordanau, looks pretty ugly :(07:00
metalsand2We had plenty of fires last year07:00
anethemaalways use pastebin07:00
jordanau#flood is agonizingly slow07:00
metalsand2And this week it's rained 3 times. :)07:00
karstenmetalsand2: My point exactlyu.07:00
ivoksmorning07:00
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anethemapjo, http://pastebin.com/07:00
pjook   pastebin   where is it ?07:00
metalsand2Oh, sarcasm.07:00
KsmurfK one question down now what about the part. setup . Any advice?07:00
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Ksmurfmorn ivoks07:01
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neighborleedr_willis, yes gedit sees my printer fine...but gimp-print isn't so fortunate so I needed the printer command string ;(07:01
anethemathen you get an output like this07:01
anethemahttp://pastebin.com/28031507:01
metalsand2I'm going to restart my wireless router07:01
karstenmetalsand2: Who's sarcastic?07:01
jordanauKsmurf, are you installing ubuntu alone on 200 gig harddrive?07:01
metalsand2Perhaps it's not Linux that's screwing it up, but my hardware.07:01
metalsand2Brb.07:01
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anethemaKsmurf, just make a big parition for unbuntu...done07:02
jordanaubye metalsand2 you will be missed...07:02
pjohttp://pastebin.com/280316  here it is07:02
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Mistiryok im getting an error when i try to install an mp3 player.....who can help me?07:02
pjoi was doing this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27811.html07:02
NaliothMistiry, what error?07:02
anethemamy advice: use gnome07:02
anethemahaha07:02
NaliothMistiry, we need to know more07:02
Mistiryconfigure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***07:02
pjoi like to use KDE07:03
anethemai know im just kidding07:03
pjohttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-27811.html  they say it works07:03
HrdwrBoBMistiry: it must be old07:03
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HrdwrBoBMistiry: what mp3 player07:03
Mistiryi tried apt-get install glib, but doesnt work07:03
Naliothso Mistiry what is the problem?07:03
bob2Mistiry: install build-essential and libglib1.2-deb07:03
anethemathats a crazy error07:03
Mistiryxmms i thing it was07:03
bob2Mistiry: er, libglib1.2-dev07:03
bob2Mistiry: why are you compiling xmms?07:03
bob2Mistiry: it's in ubuntu already07:03
Naliothah bob2 welcome07:03
anethemait doesnt give you much info to fix it07:03
anethemahaha07:03
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Mistiryok calm down people....im kinda new to linux07:04
bosewichtlol07:04
pjoit looks like when scim tries to open a small window for conversion  it generated error07:04
anethemaits ok ministry07:04
bob2Mistiry: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto07:04
bob2Mistiry: read that and enable the "universe" repository07:04
anethemaMinistry, go to www.ubuntuguide.com07:04
anethemaand look at the xmms entry07:04
bob2Mistiry: then you can install xmms using synaptic07:04
anethemajust follow the commands exactly07:04
NaliothMistiry, you can overload from too many instances of Mistiry in a sequence07:05
karstenbob2: if you can figure out metalsand2's wifi issues at some point...07:05
ivokshttp://jw.dyndns.org/initng/07:06
ivokshm... :)07:06
Mistiryok any other good mp3 player?07:06
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anethemaMistiry, xmms is best07:06
holycowivoks, apt-get install runit07:06
holycow:)07:06
anethemabut follow ubuntuguide07:06
anethemaalways ubuntuguide07:06
anethemayou will install it no sweat07:06
ivoksholycow somehow i don't feel like it :)07:06
Mistiryit says ubuntuguide.com cant find the server07:06
NaliothMistiry, there are many different mp3 players07:06
anethemasorry07:06
anethemawww.ubuntuguide.org07:07
dr_willis:)07:07
c-sicMistiry: bob2 told you...07:07
ivoksholycow i could try, maybe...07:07
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anethemago here: http://ubuntuguide.org/#xmms07:07
anethemafollow ALL the instructions07:07
anethemaand it will work forsure.07:07
Mistiryok lemme try it07:07
holycowxmms needs to be rewritten ... i think there is some work being done on that07:08
anethemayeah, but it works now anyways07:08
anethemasome bugs07:08
anethemahehe07:08
ivoksholycow xmms207:08
holycowrofl? ah!07:08
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DethreadMistiry, you will also have to set xmms to use ESD instead of OSS07:08
ivoksholycow but that's something totally different07:08
MistiryDethread, i have no idea what ESD and OSS are...again, im a n00bie07:09
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ivoksholycow xmms2.xmms.org07:09
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DethreadMistiry, tell us when you're done installing07:09
metalsandHAHA!07:09
Dethreadmetalsand, well?07:09
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metalsandI'm browsing from my laptop07:09
Dethreadmetalsand, so it wasn't ubuntu after all07:09
metalsandIt was my freaking router the entire time07:09
Dethreadmetalsand, tsk tsk07:09
Mistiryi will07:10
holycowivoks, *nod*07:10
spacepopeyeERROR: Could not initialize sdl_mixer. Do I need to install somethine? What?07:10
metalsandCool. Now back to what really matters07:10
NaliothMistiry, you should read the ubuntu howtos07:10
c-sicivoks: wow a logo...07:10
metalsandGetting my PCMCIA Card to work!07:10
metalsandkarstern: you around?07:10
jordanauDethread, ugliness is not what matters, what matters is it is made in auburn so i am proud :)07:10
c-sicdude...lol...your router...gotta love that...07:10
jordanauDethread, i have to find significance somewhere...07:11
ivoksc-sic yep, logo07:11
metalsandwhere did my user list go in x-chat?07:11
Mistiryok i get this after i do the first command ubuntuguide gives me07:11
c-sicto sam ja...lol07:11
MistiryPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:11
MistiryThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:11
Mistiryis only available from another source07:11
Mistiryeggy: Package xmms has no installation candidate07:11
jordanaumetalsand, your router!!???!!!11107:11
Dethreadjordanau, I understand07:11
c-sicI just changed my nick...07:11
metalsandjordanau, apparently :P07:11
ivoksok07:11
anethemaMistiry,07:11
anethemayou didnt follow the intructions07:11
Dethreadmetalsand, it's probably minimized to the right07:11
bosewichtanyone using the debian gis packages?07:12
eggyeh?07:12
metalsandWell, how do I maximize it?07:12
jordanaumetalsand, if it makes you feel better, i struggled for days with sound only to discover i had the volume down07:12
Dethreadjust drag it back out07:12
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pjodid anybody look at my errors ?07:12
DethreadMistiry, did you set the repositories correctly?07:12
metalsandjordanau, it does, thanks07:13
metalsandDethread, how do I maximize my user list07:13
DethreadMistiry, in other words, did you follow steps 1,2 and 3 in that link you wree given?07:13
Mistiryim doing that now07:13
Dethreadmetalsand, I don't know....it has happened to me though...just grab the bar on the very right and drag it to the left07:13
ivoksok... let's try runit :)07:13
metalsandAh. There it is07:13
ivokstime for reboot07:14
metalsandCool, thanks07:14
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karstenmetalsand: Better?07:14
metalsandkarsten, yes :)07:14
karstenmetalsand: Hah!07:14
metalsandi'm browsing from my laptop now... When I iwlist scanning didn't show my network, but a neighbors I figured somethign was fishy07:14
Dethreadthat's the first thing you should have checked07:15
Naliothy'all be good (or smile a lot)07:15
jordanaumetalsand, how does it feel to be rescued from the island??? Actually you swam off yourself...07:15
karstenmetalsand: I'd taunt you, but I'd have to tell you about fscked Linksys hubs, bad ethernet cables, misconfigured routes, duplicate routes, and a few other sins.07:15
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metalsandkarsten, now that I have a means of pasting, can you help me configure my PCMCIA card?07:15
Dethreadhe basically kicked himself in the nuts07:15
karstenmetalsand: What did it take?  Router reset?07:15
metalsandyes07:15
metalsandI restarted my cable modem for good mesure, too.07:15
karstenmetalsand: Learn to love the command line.  What's your IRC client?07:15
metalsandxchat07:15
dazzedirssi!07:16
anethemairssi is the shit07:16
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anethema(good)07:16
anethemahheh07:16
dazzedirssi is the shit07:16
metalsandDefault with Ubuntu... It doesn't look anything like the way I tweaked mIRC in windows, but it works :)07:16
karstenmetalsand: OK.  FYI, in irssi, '/exec -o <cmd> ' will output straight to channel.  Useful.07:16
karstenmetalsand: mIRC sucks.  You can get Xchat for 'Doze FYI.07:16
dazzedwww.trip-p.com/images/desktops/flux_latest.jpg <--- my irssi07:16
jordanaui liked irssi when xorg broke, but i use xchat again07:16
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karstenmetalsand: pcmcia:  You need a couple of packages....07:16
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shadeofgreyhey07:17
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metalsandI downloaded wlan-ng, the drivers I read were required for the card I used07:17
karstenmetalsand: ...I'm judging this from Debian, Ubuntu may be slightly different...07:17
Chameleon22where can i brows all available universe debs online?07:17
shadeofgreyis the newest version of the openoffice beta available through apt-get yet?07:17
anethemaChameleon22, : use synaptic07:17
dazzedChameleon22: www.debian.org07:17
dazzedor use synaptic07:17
dazzedor07:17
jordanauChameleon22, you mean like synaptic?07:17
dazzedapt-get07:17
shadeofgreythe one with the blue startup screen and special new file support?07:17
Chameleon22anethema: can you read07:17
karstenmetalsand: aptitude install pcmcia-cs07:17
Chameleon22i said online07:17
c-sicdazzed: pretty f...sweet.07:17
anethema"Chameleon22 where can i brows all available universe debs online?"07:17
dazzedChameleon22: use www.debian.org07:18
anethemait is online07:18
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dazzedc-sic: thanks07:18
anethemawhere do you think you are getting the package list?07:18
BrunellusOK.  I can't print from my printserver....07:18
karstenmetalsand: after install, for good meaaure, '/etc/init.d/pcmcia start'07:18
BrunellusI can ping the printserver07:18
Chameleon22dazzed: are all ubuntu debs ported from debian ?07:18
c-sicthats my new nick...07:18
c-siclol07:18
karstenChameleon22: More or less.07:18
Brunellusbut trying to print from it, I get a "remote host busy or unavailable" message07:18
dazzedChameleon22: no...but thats the only place you can get all of em...and a lot of them are07:18
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metalsandpcmcia-cs is already the newest version07:18
jordanauChameleon22, but you dont need to use debian debs for ubuntu07:18
ivoksok... that didn't work out well :)07:19
Brunellusanybody know anything about network printing?07:19
karstenmetalsand: OK.07:19
Chameleon22so ubuntu uses sid's deb?07:19
jordanauChameleon22, no ubuntu debs07:19
karstenmetalsand: Is your card currently in?07:19
metalsandstarting PCMCIA services: [ok] 07:19
karstenmetalsand: ...there may be some stuff under your system menu for PCMCIA config...07:19
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karstenmetalsand: Good.07:19
metalsandIt is now, karsten07:19
karstenmetalsand: Is your PC card in?07:19
dazzedubuntu uses ubuntu debs...but they all match up so its cool to use www.debian.org07:19
c-sicBrunellus: it is printinig over a network...07:19
metalsandkarsten, yes07:19
c-siclol07:19
jordanaudazzed, really? i hear not to use debian debs07:19
shadeofgreynobody knows?07:20
Brunellusc-sic:  what did you mean by that?07:20
dazzedjordanau: well then dont use them...i use a lot of them all work fine...a deb is a deb...doesnt matter who makes em07:20
dazzedits just a pacakging system07:20
karstenmetalsand: OK.  Eject it, give it a couple of seconds, and reinsert it..  You should hear a "boop ... beep BEEP"07:20
dazzedubuntu is debian based07:20
jordanaushadeofgrey, what ubuntu are you using?07:20
c-sicshadeofgrey: can you download a .bin from their site?07:20
Brunelluswhat bugs me most of all is that this worked *fine* before I upgraded to hoary07:20
dazzedi have debs that aer made by friends...fuck i have made a few debs07:20
Brunellusno settings have changed with the printserver07:20
jordanaudazzed, then you know more than i do07:21
Brunellusbut somehow I get the feeling that there's a blocked port somewhere along the line07:21
c-sicBrunellus: you asked: Brunellus: anybody know anything about network printing? so I said: c-sic: Brunellus: it is printinig over a network...07:21
ivoksdazzed u just have to love deb :)07:21
shadeofgreyim using 5.0407:21
metalsandkarsten, nothing... no sounds07:21
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metalsandkarsten, in fact, the only sounds I have heard using Ubuntu are the start and shutdown sounds07:21
dazzedivoks: they do make it easy :)07:21
shadeofgreydoes a .bin install the same as apt-get?07:21
anethemaboomp when it boots and i get the login screen07:21
karstenmetalsand: OK...07:22
matthewI (L) UBUNTU07:22
shadeofgreyjordanau:  im using the newest ubuntu07:22
matthewhehe07:22
karstenmetalsand: Should be PC speaker IIRC.07:22
jordanauoo.org will not be upgraded anymore unless you compile yourself, change to breezy, use backports, or unless security upgrades are neccesary07:22
Brunelluscheers c-sic, but that doesn't get my CV printed in time for tomorrow's interview....07:22
Brunellus:p07:22
jordanauanyone correct  me if i am wrong07:22
ivoksBrunellus what's the problem?07:22
c-sicdazzed: tahts really your desktop?07:23
jordanaumetalsand, have you read any howtos on sound?07:23
metalsandjordanau, nope... I figured my sound was correctly configured, because I could hear Ubuntu start/shutdown sounds07:23
karstenmetalsand: Hrm...  I don't use pcmcia here much currently though I've got it, appears out ATM, give me a few....07:23
anethemagod i'd kill for skype to use alsa07:23
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anethemaplay ut and talk on skype and get sound for both07:24
dazzedc-sic: of course! my server and everything07:24
dazzedi got other pictures too but they all the same really07:24
shadeofgreyyou mean ubuntu is no longer going to support oo.org?07:24
Brunellusivoks:  I can ping my printserver07:24
shadeofgreyor is that just until 2 isnt in beta anymore?07:24
ivoksBrunellus ok...07:24
BrunellusI specify its IP, and the print queue07:24
Brunellusbut nothing07:25
c-sicwow, tahts in fluxbox?07:25
jordanaushadeofgrey, no they freeze a particular version when an official release comes out07:25
ivoksBrunellus and ur printerserver is cups or something else?07:25
shadeofgreyjordanau:  what does that mean for me?07:25
dazzedubuntu isnt going to have oo?07:25
dazzedwhered u hear this?07:25
jordanaushadeofgrey, they will not provide anymore non-security upgrades unless you switch to breezy07:25
shadeofgreywhat the hell is breezy?07:25
jordanaudazzed, not true misunderstanding07:25
dazzedjordanau: ohh ok07:25
ivoksshadeofgrey new ubuntu07:25
Brunellusivoks:  the printserver is a Hawking one-port parallel printserver.  the docs say it should be lpd07:26
shadeofgreyyou mean to tell me hoary is already outdated?07:26
shadeofgreyokay07:26
anethemawhoa07:26
jordanaushadeofgrey, yes07:26
BrunellusI got it to work before, under warty07:26
anethemathere is a new ubuntu out07:26
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anethema?07:26
bored2kbreezy will be out on October07:26
shadeofgreyhow do i upgrade it then?07:26
ivoksBrunellus nmap -v IP_of_your_printerserver07:26
bored2kbreezy is still in early dev stage07:26
metalsandhow stable is Breezy right now?07:26
dazzedno need to upgrade yet...dev stage07:26
ivoksunstable07:26
dazzedmetalsand: its bad right now07:26
c-sicshadeofgrey: do you know that you can install programs that are not from a repository?07:27
Ksmurfshould I be using reiser XFS ext2 or 3... any suggestions?07:27
ivoksxfs07:27
shadeofgreywill i have to totally reinstall to get breezy going when it hits?07:27
dazzedmost that upgrade..revert back shortly after07:27
jordanaushadeofgrey, distro releases are "outdated" before they come out07:27
anethemareiser i would07:27
anethemaim using reiser07:27
ivoksshadeofgrey no. u will just upgrade07:27
anethemanever heard of xfs07:27
bored2kshadeofgrey a dist-upgrade will do07:27
ivoksLOL!07:27
jordanaushadeofgrey, no07:27
dazzedshadeofgrey: you can use synaptic to download the new upgrade and then reboot and urd one07:27
ivoksanethema never heard? and u use reiser?07:27
anethemais there a new ubuntu out?07:27
anethemai use reiser07:27
anethemayes07:27
dazzedits in dev stage...really unstbale07:27
ivoksanethema XFS is maybe not so fast, but faster...07:27
jordanauanethema, no not since april07:27
metalsandkarsten, you still checking stuff out?07:28
ivoksanethema but reiser is disaster waiting to happen07:28
anethemawhy07:28
bored2k"please dont upgrade yet" < http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2786507:28
anethemawhats wrong wiht it07:28
anethemaive used it on slack forever07:28
dazzedthank you :)07:28
anethemanever had problems07:28
ivoksanethema too much expeerience with that sh**t07:28
Brunellush'm.07:28
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anethemaah07:28
dazzedanethema: slack is a good system...what reason u switch to ubu?07:28
metalsandWhat's nmap?07:28
anethemais xfs mature enough to actually use?07:28
anethemadazzed, just to try, but now ill never go back07:28
jordanaumetalsand, google07:28
ivoksanethema XFS is older than Linux :)07:28
anethemais it journaliing ?07:28
ivoksanethema it was standars FS on Irix07:29
ivoksanethema of course07:29
dazzedanethema: yeah true...i know how that is...i think im going to dual boot slack and ubu cuz slack is fun07:29
anethemaheh i dunno07:29
BrunellusI'll be damned.  everything's closed07:29
anethemajust spend soo much time getting stuff working how you want in slack07:29
Brunellusexcept 10000/tcp snet-sensor-mgmt07:29
ivoksanethema it's the fastest FS for big files07:29
anethematook me like 20mins on ubuntu07:29
dazzedanethema: oohhhh sooo true...first insatll fucking 3 hours to get errors on every boot then 2 weeks before i got it to run like a computer07:29
anethemai was soo amazed at how easy shit was07:29
anethemadidnt know how easy linux could be07:29
anethemabut its not a hand-holder like mandrake07:30
anethemaor..mandriva!07:30
anethemahaha07:30
anethemapoor buggers07:30
anethemagoing with the metrosexual fad or somehting07:30
dazzedanethema: the direction ubu is going is for windows converters though07:30
metalsandjordanau, is nmap more for wired networks?07:30
dazzedso i might be getting out07:30
Brunellusok.  everything's shut down07:30
ivoksnmap is must-have tool07:30
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dazzedmight go over to gentoo or something07:30
Brunellusthat explains why I can't even telnet to the printserver07:30
ivoksdazzed u tried gentoo?07:30
dazzednot yet07:31
ivoksdazzed don't go there...07:31
ivoks:)07:31
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anethemayeah i guess, but its so easy, but still..based on debian and can edit config files easily07:31
ivoksdon't get me wrong07:31
dazzediv i have some friends that are alll over that shit...whats your oppinion on it?07:31
dazzedivoks: * ^07:31
ivoksgentoo is, maybe, the best distro out there07:31
ivoksbut...07:31
anethemahmmm07:31
ivoksit takes TOO MUCH time07:31
anethemai wasnt impressed with gentoo over slack07:31
anethemahas emerge which is cool07:31
dazzedrelaly lots of time?07:31
anethemabut..bah07:32
metalsandivoks: too much time to do what?07:32
c-sicgnome is pretty07:32
dazzedyeah i hear the emerge wshit07:32
karstenmetalsand: Yes, still checking.07:32
anethemaeverything takes forever07:32
dazzedits like apt-get07:32
ivoksanethema it's the best couse u can optimize every package07:32
ivoksmetalsand compiling every day :)07:32
anethemawho cares07:32
anethemaoptimize07:32
anethemawow 1%07:32
anethemaif that07:32
anethemanever notice that07:32
karstenmetalsand: ...and taking a refreshment break.07:32
dazzedlol07:32
ivoksanethema acctually, much more07:32
anethemai compiled everything i slack anyways07:32
Dethreadwhere is that dictionary file (usually /user/share/dict/words) in ubuntu?07:32
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anethemanot much more, ive seen the benchmarks07:32
metalsandkarsten: k. no worries, thanks for helping me thus far07:32
anethemait averages like 1%07:32
anethemaor 207:32
ivokskarsten ?07:32
karstenmetalsand: It's personal -- I'd like to get it working.07:32
metalsandkarsten, ahhahaha07:33
karstenivoks: http://funroll-loops.org/07:33
ivoksanethema there isn't any app compiled for pentium-m07:33
chavokarsten, you should hand it to him up against his head.07:33
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karstenchavo: That would imply finding it.07:33
metalsandup against my head? o.O07:33
dazzedtoo bad i can get slack to run perfectly fine but i cant figure out a way to get this stupid xmms-infopipe pm installed...i tried everything lol07:33
ivoksanethema so u can imagine difference beetween ubuntu (486 optimized) and gentoo (pm optimized)07:33
ivoksanethema it's not just 1%, it's 25%07:34
anethemaheh07:34
anethemai would have to see some very convincing benchmarks to believe that07:34
metalsandAre the 486/PM kernel related things?07:34
metalsandI'm trying to gleen knowledge.07:34
anethemahes talking about diff cpus07:34
dazzedrelated in the way they are both kernels...and that they power the same ubuntu but besides that no07:34
anethemapentium M and 48607:34
metalsandOh.07:35
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metalsand486 = ?07:35
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dazzedthey are processed differently for dif processors to optimize performance07:35
dazzed486 intel07:35
dazzedi mean amd***07:35
anethemait really doesnt make that much diff07:35
dazzedit doesnt07:35
metalsandSo, since I'm running a lappy (1.6 Centrino - PM) my comp would process faster using Gentoo?07:35
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dazzedmetalsand: the thing about ubu they have kernels for all dif processors07:36
dazzedits just based on the 48607:36
anethemametalsand, about 2 percent faster, and MUCH harder to use07:36
anethemacompared to ubuntu07:36
shadeofgreyaccording to the doca online all you have to do to install the new oo is download the tar, extract it to a tmp directory and run ./setup07:36
gnuyenI keep getting a dpkg: ../../main/packages.c:191: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.error07:37
shadeofgreyis it REALLY that easy?07:37
metalsandHeh. I'm having a hard enough time for Ubuntu. Perhaps I'll try some other distros once I get a decent foundation of linux after a few months07:37
dazzedubuntu also has the 64 bit kernels and os's which is neat07:37
jordanaushadeofgrey, yeah probably07:37
anethemagood luck even installing gentoo07:37
dazzedim sure the rest do too but i hgave been dedicated ubuntu so long now07:37
anethemasuch a pain07:37
anethemahaha07:37
ivokskarsten :)07:37
chavoshadeofgrey, you have to do it uphill, both ways07:37
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gnuyenis there anything I can do to fix that?07:37
jordanauchavo, in the snow07:37
chavocarrying your sister on your back07:37
jordanauchavo, haha never heard that one07:38
metalsandwho is 400 pounds overwieght, and infected with rabies07:38
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chavoha, got it from an old roommate07:38
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jordanaushadeofgrey, will you have issues with the other one getting in the way07:38
chavoooh rabies07:38
metalsandMmmmm. Rabies.07:38
jordanaumetalsand, my sister has rabies, thats not funny :(07:38
shadeofgreynot if i apt-get remove it first07:39
shadeofgreyright07:39
jordanaushadeofgrey, thats what i dont know better ask someone07:39
metalsandHow awesome is MXC07:39
chavoshadeofgrey, you can probably run both, if you wnated to.07:39
shadeofgreyhow do you make it remove everything though?07:39
shadeofgreyi dont wnt to07:39
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shadeofgreythe old one blows rancid baboon balls07:39
metalsandSo, if I had nothing better to do and wanted to install the PM kernel for Ubuntu07:40
metalsandHow exactly would I go about doing that?07:40
chavoshadeofgrey, that's gotta be worth something.07:40
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chavometalsand, PM kernel?07:41
anethemapentium m07:41
makI have a ton of OOo2 packages in '.deb' files. How would i go about installing all of them?07:41
karstenmak: dpkg -i <package list>07:41
jordanaumak, dpkg07:41
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jordanaukarsten, you have beat me to that twice tonight07:41
shadeofgreywhats the apt-get command to remove something?07:42
tezzaanyone get the problem with the ubuntu installer halting before it loads the install screens?07:42
karstenjordanau: ;-)07:42
jordanauapt-get remove07:42
makkarsten, will dpkg figure out what to install first, last, etc?07:42
chavojordanau, he's probably got a hotkey07:42
karstenshadeofgrey: remove|purge07:42
karstenmak: Yes.07:42
jordanaushadeofgrey, also apt-get -h07:42
karstenmak: In general, you're better off using aptitude or synaptic.07:42
cs83i have 2 usb removable drives: an external dvd writer and an external hard drive. when i plug in the dvd ubuntu mounts it and shows the dvd icon on the desktop. for my hd, it mounts it but doesn't show the icon on the desktop. how can i make ubuntu show the icon?07:42
karstenmak: ...why'd you d/l the packages instead of 'aptitude install ... ' ?07:43
makkarsten, the ones that are there are pretty old (m79), current is m100. is it not a big deal?07:44
karstenmak: Learn to love and trust your package manager.07:44
jordanauchavo, haha07:44
karstenmak: What OS are you coming from?07:44
mak:) will do07:44
ivokspjo u want write japanese in every app?07:44
gorilla_there's a a bash quote :-)07:45
metalsandkarsten, ETA on refreshment break?07:45
makkarsten, I've been messing with linux for about a year07:45
maknothing seriuos07:45
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karstenmetalsand: I'm troubleshooting.07:45
metalsandkarsten, troubleshooting my issue? :o07:45
karstenmak: What APT (A Package Tool), Ubuntu's package manager, buys you, is resolving dependencies between packages.07:45
anethemaaptitude07:46
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jordanaumak, no depency hell07:46
karstenmak: If you go outside of it, you're taking a risk of getting incompatible stuff on your system.07:46
jordanauwow i cant spell worth  a shit07:46
karstenmak: IME, going for the latest and greatest rarely provides compelling advantages.07:46
karstenjordanau: Looks like you spelled it just fine there ;-)07:46
makkarsten, last time. I promise :). hope nothing got screwed up too bad07:46
makkarsten, actually, I cant find where the packages just installed07:47
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jordanaukarsten, unfortunately there are badass programs like blender that get really cool updates fairly regularly07:47
karstenmak: If they're DEBs and built for Ubuntu, you may be OK.  There are third party repositories, I use a few.07:47
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gorilla_karsten, nope.. its't dependency :-)07:47
shadeofgreyokay07:47
shadeofgreyso07:47
karstenjordanau: Sure.  If that matters to you, great.07:47
karstengorilla_: ??07:47
shadeofgreywhere do i tell the installer to PUT openoffice?07:48
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makkarsten, i doubt they are. I got them from the site07:48
makthe OOo site07:48
jordanauhey ztonzy07:48
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Brunellusfuk.07:49
ivoksBrunellus :)07:49
ivoksBrunellus isn't linux's fault? :)07:49
metalsandAfter I've used synaptic to get a documentation07:49
metalsandHow do I read it?07:49
Brunellusit's my own damn fault for upgrading from warty...07:49
BrunellusI had everything working already07:49
karstenmetalsand: /usr/share/doc/<packagename>07:49
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Brunellusupgraded, now some very key things have broken, and I have no idea why07:50
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karstenmetalsand: Do yourself a favor and install 'dwww' (it'll install Apache as well).  Then:  http://localhost/dwww/' for docs.07:50
GNAMincredible escalation of mandriva on distrowatch!07:50
BrunellusI don't understand this at all.  I can ping the printserver, and the windows box on the same network can print on this server, via SMB07:50
karstenmetalsand: ...there's a slick documentation interface, searchable, purty and real nice like.07:50
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anethemahaha what a stupid name07:51
anethemamandriva07:51
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anethemawhy did they change it07:51
shadeofgreyi say again...  where should i tell the installer to put openoffice?07:51
anethemaapealing to the gayer masses? or what07:51
Brunellusmandriva makes me think of a shrew.07:51
karstenanethema: Almost as lame as "ubuntu" ;-)07:51
Brunellusshadeofgrey:  you won't have to deal07:51
Brunellusjust apt-get install it07:51
karstenshadeofgrey: /opt07:51
Brunellusand it goes wherever.07:51
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karstenshadeofgrey: Installing via apt or install script(s)?07:51
karstenshadeofgrey: Stock Ubuntu *has* OOo installed.07:51
ivoksBrunellus what did nmap tell u?07:51
Brunellusnmap tells me that every port except 1000 is closed07:52
metalsandIt's actually surprsingly nice seeing eveything in textg07:52
shadeofgreyinstall scripts07:52
karstenmetalsand: ??07:52
metalsandI guess I'm starting to apprciate Linux.07:52
shadeofgreyyes i know it comes pre installed07:52
karstenmetalsand: STOP WHILE YOU STILL HAVE A CHANCE!07:52
IIIEarsHello!       (Windows has recovered from a serious error - Mcaffee Anti-Virus is missing elemnts or may not have been installed properly... - Uhuh. - lol)07:52
karstenmetalsand: Change of tune ;-)07:52
metalsandkarsten, hahah07:52
ivoksBrunellus ok... 1000?07:52
karstenshadeofgrey: WTF are you installing it from scripts then?07:52
metalsandkarsten, so soon, too ;)07:53
karstenmetalsand: It's good lovin'.07:53
metalsandkarsten, wjat07:53
metalsandbleh07:53
metalsandWhat's apache?07:53
shadeofgreybut the version that comes with ubuntu DOESNT support the new file type they use in 2.0 - and half my novel is in the new format07:53
karstenmetalsand: webserver.07:53
Brunellusivoks, correction, 10000.  snte-sensor-mgmt07:53
Brunellussnet-sensor-mgmt07:53
karstenmetalsand: dwww serves to localhost only by default.  If you're on a LAN, opening it up to that can be helpful.07:53
metalsandkarsten, what could I potentially use it for?07:53
karstenmetalsand: ...all automajickally configurated.07:53
jordanaumetalsand, google07:53
ivoksBrunellus as I see it, printing ports are closed for u07:53
ivoksBrunellus firewall?07:54
karstenmetalsand: It gives you web-enabled searchable local docs via 'dwww'.07:54
holycowivoks, the runit scripts seem incredibly simple ... neat --> http://smarden.org/runit/runscripts.html#privoxy07:54
Brunellusfirewall?  where?07:54
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BrunellusI'm not running a firewall (that I know of) on this box07:54
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ivoksholycow but the system doesn't boot :)07:54
Brunellusnmap of localhost tells me that port 631 is open07:54
Mistiryok i get a segmentation fault when i try to play songs in xmms......07:54
holycowivoks, thats because you need runit scripts :)07:54
ivoksBrunellus don't nmap localhost07:54
karstenmetalsand: Here's a publically accessible sample:  http://newton.waglo.com/dwww/07:54
DethreadMistiry, did you set it to ESD?07:54
holycowhttp://www.pycs.net/lateral/stories/36.html07:54
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Mistirywhats esd?07:55
karstenmetalsand:  http://newton.waglo.com/dwww/menu/all.html07:55
ivoksBrunellus u need to nmap printer... and if all is closed07:55
karstenMistiry: A sound daemon.07:55
anethemahe has it set to ALSA07:55
ivoksBrunellus then check printer settings07:55
anethemanot esd07:55
Brunellusivoks:  there wasn't a firewall between this host and the printserver two weeks ago07:55
Brunellus*no* settings have changed since then07:55
jacquesmerdeanyone here able to help me with CUPS? i've been folloing the ubuntu FAQ on it, and i've hit a snag07:55
Brunellusthe only change is that I upgraded to hoary07:55
DethreadMistiry, in xmms, go to Options -> Preferences, then pick eSound for Output Plugin07:55
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karstenmetalsand: ...also manpages and info pages, via Webpage.07:56
heavenHello! How can I install MySQL!07:56
Dethreadanethema, wait, he has his whole system set to ALSA?07:56
gooDoes the Linux-image-2.6.10-5-686 package have highmem support?07:56
Dethreadheaven, apt-get install mysql07:56
anethemaalsa is normal07:56
metalsandkarsten, I'm confused... He hosted his own documentation organization tool?07:56
karstenheaven: aptitude install mysql-server mysql-client07:56
ivoksBrunellus remind me again, what port is lpr?07:56
Dethreadanethema, ubuntu is set to esd by default I believe07:56
karstenmetalsand: ...and you can too.07:56
Dethreadanethema, and xmms is set to oss by default I believe07:56
heavenThank you!07:56
anethemayes07:56
karstenmetalsand: Most people don't open it up to the outside world.  Among other things, it makes it really easy to figure out what's on the box.07:56
ivoksBrunellus try telnet printerserver 51507:56
anethemai told him to try alsa07:56
metalsandkarsten, how often do you browse doc when you're not on your PC?07:56
anethemai dont think thats the problem07:56
karstenmetalsand: ...I googled 'dwww' and found a link.07:56
Dethreadanethema, ah ok07:56
Mistirynope....and it only closes when i load a dir....it will load and play single songs07:57
karstenmetalsand: In a teaching situation, often.  Having it arranged via Web interface is convenient.07:57
anethemaalso segfaults when he tryes to open a directory07:57
anethemano idea why07:57
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Dethreadeh, that's bad07:57
metalsandkarsten, how often are you teaching people? :o07:57
karstenmetalsand: Anyhow, you were asking how to read installed docs.  dwww is one way to do that.  IMVAO, it's slick.07:57
karstenmetalsand: Daily.07:57
ivoksBrunellus can u telnet to 515?07:57
Brunellusivoks:  connection refused07:57
Brunellusno07:57
karstenmetalsand: ...at least in the current iteration of my life.07:57
ivoksBrunellus THEN MAN! CHECK PRINTER!07:57
Brunellusconnection refused.07:57
Mistiryso no idea then?07:58
Brunellusivoks:  I just *did*07:58
ivoksthat means that printer is refussing connectios from u07:58
ivoksor07:58
karstenBrunellus: Hrm.  Maybe _chuck_ the printer?07:58
DethreadMistiry, sorry...try another multimedia player, I guess07:58
metalsandkarsten, out of curiousity... When are you instructing people about linux docs daily? Is it part of your profession?07:58
Mistiryreccomend any?07:58
shadeofgreywhats the command to install java?07:58
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ivoksu have set up firewall to disallow connections to other printer07:58
Dethreadshadeofgrey, there is no specific command for it07:58
metalsandkarsten, Oh.. btw, it says I need switch++ to search07:58
karstenmetalsand: Currently volunteer, been professional.  Looking to swing a gig.07:58
gooI have a linux-image-2.6.11-1-686 in my Synaptic - would it be safe to use that with my Hoary?07:58
Brunellusivoks:  I have set up *nothing*07:58
karstenmetalsand: swish++  It's a search engine.07:59
Brunellusthe only thing that changed was the upgrade to hoary07:59
ivoksBrunellus this isn't hoary problem...07:59
karstenmetalsand: ...manages the searching component.07:59
Brunellusthen I don't understand what's gone wrong07:59
ivoksBrunellus check telnet 515 from windows machine07:59
Dethreadshadeofgrey, take a look at this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java07:59
metalsandkarsten, so that's something I need to apt-get install?07:59
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karstenmetalsand: s/need to/can if you want to/07:59
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anethemashadeofgrey, look at ubuntuguide08:00
metalsandAh, i just found the usr/share/doc tab08:00
anethemasays how to install java08:00
jacquesmerdehow do get my ubuntu machine to actually broadcast its 'client hostname' to the rest of the lan? its a printer server on dhcp and i want to be able to print to it without giving its IP at the time08:00
anethemasamba :D08:01
tonyzbkhi08:01
tonyzbk hi08:01
karstenjacquesmerde: You don't.  That's a DNS function.  You'd need either static hosts files on each system, or a local DNS server.08:01
karstenanethema: Yeah, wins is an option.08:01
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tonyzbk08:01
tonyzbk08:01
BrunellusOK, I can't even connect to it as a samba host08:01
karstentonyzbk: English.08:01
ivoksjacquesmerde what kind of a setup is that? :)08:01
nevynhrm what is involved in getting dhcpd to register hosts in dns correctly?08:01
Mistiryok another problem im having......08:01
makSo, what is the latest, yet very safe version of Openoffice that I can find?08:02
jordanautonyzbk, hi08:02
Mistirywith my monitor08:02
metalsandmak: Have you searched for openoffice using synaptic?08:02
ivoksopenoffice208:02
ivoksall oo.org are safe08:02
ivoksthey won't kill u08:02
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DethreadMistiry, why don't you type out your whole question into one coherent sentence...it's much easier to follow that way08:02
jacquesmerdei have an XP system, an archlinux system and an ubuntu system on my LAN. when i go to my router's setup page, and bring up the dhcp client's table, the ubuntu machine is the only one which has its 'client hostname' listed as blank. i set up arch as a complete newb and the hostname is there. how do i do the same for the ubuntu machine?08:02
ivoksBrunellus works from other computers?08:02
karstenmak: IMVAO, the one Ubuntu provides you.08:03
anethema1.1.3 or somehting seems like the latest version08:03
Brunellusivoks:  yes, from the windows box08:03
Brunellusso it's not blocking *all* connections08:03
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heavenHello! How can I change root password of MySQL by terminal?08:03
karstenMistiry: The <enter> key is *not* a punctuation symbol.08:03
Brunellusit used to work two weeks ago08:03
jasmuzHello all!08:03
mak1.1.3 is pretty horrible in powerpoint08:03
ivoksBrunellus ok, do u have simple switch or normal switch?08:03
makat least 1.1.4 does better08:03
MistirySorry. I am having a problem with my monitor. At the very bottom right above the toolbar it has some garbled display. I have tried different resolutions and refresh rates. Any ideas?08:03
jacquesmerdekarsten, can you explain that static host files thing?08:04
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makbut hoary doesnt have this. I'm only trying upgrade because for some reason it stopped working08:04
DethreadMistiry, that sounds very strange. do you maybe have some magnetic device close to the monitor?08:04
holycowministry, get a new monitor08:04
jordanauMistiry, like a non computer speaker?08:05
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karstenheaven: What dpkg just told you.08:05
Brunellusivoks:  define "simple" and "normal"08:05
MistiryNope, it does it anywhere i take it. im on a laptop, and its not the monitor. it was fine with windows xp and it only shows up when the gui comes up, not in the loading stage.08:05
karstenjacquesmerde: In Ye Olde Days Of Ye Internete, before Al Gore Invented It, all hosts were identified by a hosts file.  That was passed around to all hosts.08:05
jacquesmerdeactually, i added a line on /etc/hosts on my archlinux machine, "127.0.0.1 myhost", is that what i have to do on the ubuntu machine to get it to broadcast it?08:05
jordanauMistiry, is it a dell?08:05
ivoksBrunellus simple is stoopid switch, more like hub... normal switch u can programe to block coneections, NAT etc...08:05
karstenjacquesmerde: /etc/hosts is a relic of this.  You can statically enter hosts in same and copy that among your systems.08:06
gookarsten: yeah, those were the days,08:06
ivoksBrunellus try connecting ur comp to other port08:06
MistiryNo its a Toshiba Satellite 4090CDS. if i plus an external monitor in the messed up part goes away.08:06
Brunellusivoks:  i'm on a wlan08:06
Mistirypliug08:06
Mistiryplug08:06
karstenjacquesmerde: Then Paul Vixie came along and invented BIND, to better allow us to be rooted.08:06
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ivoksBrunellus wlan?08:06
ivoksBrunellus is wlan in same subnet as lan?08:06
jordanauMistiry, yeah my old dell would do that, it went away when i wiggled the screen08:06
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jacquesmerdekarsten, so editing /etc/hosts will fix my problem? how do i effect the change on the ubuntu machine? /etc/rc.d/network restart?08:06
Brunelluswireless, ivoks.  wlan is the same subment as lan08:07
karstenjacquesmerde: Anyway, you can do something like:  '192.168.0.2 funkybox' and copy that to all your systems.08:07
Mistiryjordanau, i tried all that. dont know what i can do to fix it......08:07
karstenjacquesmerde: Dunno what your problem is...08:07
Brunellusboth have 192.168.0.1 as their gateway08:07
jacquesmerdekarsten, but its dhcp...08:07
karstenjacquesmerde: ...but you can type 'funckybox' on any system with a hosts file with that entry, and it'll remap to 192.168.0.208:07
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ivoksBrunellus and ur AP, does it have some restrictions on forwarding packages?08:07
karstenjacquesmerde: Change it to static.08:07
jordanauMistiry, well that most likey a hardware issue, for your own good, you can probably find better help for that elsewhere08:07
Brunellusit shouldn't.  and *didn't* two weeks ago.  lemme check.08:08
pjoHello tonyzbk08:08
karstenjacquesmerde: LAN or public Internet?08:08
Mistiryjordanau, where else can i go?08:08
ivoksBrunellus Brunellus connect ur hoary to lan and try that...08:08
pjoivoks advised to ask you, tonyzbk08:08
ivokslol08:08
metalsandEh, what plugins do I need to play .mp3s?08:08
Dethreadmetalsand, consult ubuntuguide.org08:09
metalsandGood idea.08:09
jordanauMistiry, wait it works on windows and not linux?08:09
Mistiryjordanau, yes. and an external monitor doesnt show it08:09
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jordanauMistiry, sounds like it might be a driver issue then08:09
jordanauMistiry, i cant help though08:09
Brunellusivoks:  no lan nic here08:09
jacquesmerdekarsten, LAN, i just want my ubuntu machine to send out its hostname so i can put that host name in "ServerName" in my cupsd.conf08:09
Brunellusthis is a five-year old desktop box08:10
jacquesmerdekarsten, this is just a LAN thing08:10
Mistiryjordanau, thats what i thought. but wouldnt that mean that the external monitor would have the same problem?08:10
pjoivoks  it looks like he does not answer08:10
jordanauMistiry, no08:10
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karstenjacquesmerde: I'd do a static IP assignment.08:10
karstenjacquesmerde: DHCP is for convienience, nothing else.08:10
ivokspjo be a man, send him a private message08:10
BrunellusI just don't get it.  this *worked* under warty, and I can't work out why it's wrong.08:10
pjook08:10
Mistiryjordanau, guess i can google my laptop and look for drivers? do they even have drivers availiable for linux anywhere?08:10
jordanauMistiry, you would have seperate things controlling the monitor and the lcd08:10
ivoksBrunellus man, i repeat, this isn't OS problem08:11
ivoksBrunellus sudo iptables -L08:11
jordanauMistiry, cant help man wish i could tell you, i'd just google08:11
ivoksMistiry what's the problem?08:11
Brunellusivoks:  doesn't show me anything08:11
heavenOK, when I input the following words "UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('root') WHERE User='root';" and press the Enter key, but it prompt me that "No Database Selected"!08:11
ivoksBrunellus not even errors?08:12
Brunellusnope.  just chains, policies, and nothing08:12
Mistiryivoks, at the bottom of my monitor, right above the toolbar, it has a garbled part of the screen.08:12
ivoksBrunellus sudo -t nat iptables -L08:12
jordanauivoks, his laptop monitor is messed up in ubuntu not windows although an external monitor works in both08:12
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ivoksBrunellus sudo iptables -t nat -L08:12
gnuyenmy totem and gstreamer in general are broken, it says it can't find a valid audio sink?08:12
Brunellusivoks:  nothing.08:13
ivoksMistiry what laptop? what graphic card?08:13
Brunellussilence.  again, I hate to spoil your fun :p08:13
ivoksBrunellus then it sure isn't OS problem08:13
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Mistiryivoks, its a toshiba satellite 4090cds....how do i find out my graphic card? i dont know what kind it is08:13
ivoksMistiry lspci | grep VGA08:13
BrunellusOK. nuclear option time08:13
heavenkarsten: When I input the following words "UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('root') WHERE User='root';" and press the Enter key, but it prompt me that "No Database Selected"!08:14
ivoksBrunellus traceroute ip-of-ur-printer-server08:14
karstenheaven: Sec.08:14
gnuyenand my nautilus won't connect to any ssh servers08:14
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shadeofgreyso08:14
karstenheaven: '-d mysql' I think.08:14
shadeofgreyfor safetys sake is it best to disable the root account?08:14
Mistiryivoks, 0000:00:04.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems Cyber 9525 (rev 49)08:14
ivokswtf is that? :)08:14
metalsand karsten, when i download a deb using synaptic, and install it... if it's for drivers do I need to do build kernal modules?08:15
_4strOmetalsand> no08:15
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metalsandhrmmm. I wonder why that's the first thing listed in the documentation08:15
shadeofgreyshould i install oo as a network install?08:15
shadeofgreyim the only person who will ever use it08:15
Mistiryivoks, no clue then?08:16
ivoksMistiry did u check out forums?08:16
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ivoksMistiry couse ur model is on couple of places... like http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26108.html08:16
heavenkarsten: Is it  "UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('root') WHERE User='root' -d mysql;"08:16
heavenkarsten: also wrong!08:17
ivoksheaven what are u doing? updating root passworD?08:17
ivoksstop guys!08:17
ivoksthere is better and easier way08:17
ivoksmysqladmin08:17
karstenheaven: 'use mysql' after typing 'mysql' at shell prompt.08:17
karstenivoks: Yes.08:17
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karstenivoks: Not if you forgot old root.08:17
ivoks:)08:17
ivokshow can he change password then if he doesn't knows old one?08:17
heavenThank you!^_^08:18
karstenivoks: /join #debian & /msg dpkg forgot mysql root password08:18
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karstenivoks: /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables08:18
ivoksah, ok08:18
karstenheaven: ^^08:18
karstenheaven: ...then08:18
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Mistirywhere is the xorg.conf file located?08:18
shadeofgreyshould i install oo with ./setup -net ???08:19
ivoksBrunellus alive? :)08:19
_4strO/etc/X11/08:19
karstenheaven: ...in another shell, as root:  mysql -u root08:19
Mistiryty08:19
karstenheaven: ...then:  use mysql;08:19
karstenheaven: ...then the change password command previously given.08:19
stuNNedanyone else have laptop freezing up after a few minutes?08:19
karstenheaven: I had to do that myself a few days ago.08:19
metalsandhow do I run "update modutils"08:19
Mistirywhen i dir in the /etc/X11 directory, there is no xorg.conf file.08:20
ivoksMistiry http://www.linux-laptop.net/08:20
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karstenmetalsand: 'update modutils'08:20
metalsandhahaha08:20
jbmigelI was playing d00m3 today on ubuntu and it froze up the computer, I HAD TO REBOOT! like wtf i had to check my partitions to make sure i wasnt still in windows08:20
IIIEarslol08:20
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ivoks:)08:21
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heavenkarsten: When I quit mysql, reenter the mysql -u root -p,then input password, but the password not changed08:21
metalsand"update command not found", karsten08:21
karstenmetalsand: Actually, it's "update-modules"08:21
karstenmetalsand: my bad.08:21
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karstenheaven: Hrm.08:21
karstenheaven: You're doing _all_ this as root?08:21
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heavenkarsten:yes08:22
heavenkarsten:root can't change password by itself?08:23
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karstenheaven: Se.c08:23
devnullhow can i do to get around that the wx_gtk2 lib wasnt configured with the options i need ?08:24
Mistiryok, anyone able to help me with this: (gedit:8226): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:08:25
MistiryAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.08:25
heavenWhat is the word "Se.c" meaning?08:25
karstenheaven: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/resetting-permissions.html08:25
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karstenheaven: "Sec" == "Second" == "Wait a minute".08:25
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heavenkarsten: Sorry! My English is poor!^_^08:26
shadeofgreyokay so08:27
shadeofgreyi tar'ed the tarball08:27
Mistiryhow can i edit a conf file?08:27
shadeofgreyand now the directory is full of rpms08:27
shadeofgreyso now what?08:27
IIIEarsWill "Breezy"  support the no execute NX bit flag?08:27
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_alexmisity: what config file?08:28
ivoksBrunellus ")08:28
_alexMistiry: what config?08:28
MistiryXF86Config-408:28
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cdfbr_Make 50$+ everymonth by searching from http://netbux.org/?r=133576)http://netbux.org/?r=13357608:28
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LISPMistiry: use vim08:28
karstenheaven: No problem.  So's mine.08:28
karstenheaven: ...my American is middlin' though.08:28
cyphaselol, cdfbr_ was just spamming #wordpress as well08:28
LISPMistiry: better gedit, or what it's called08:28
MistiryLISP, i tried gedit, i get this error: (gedit:8226): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:08:29
MistiryAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.08:29
metalsandTest.08:29
KarillHey guys I am on my way out but before I go I just wanted to say hats off to the dev team for Ubintu It seems like they really put alot of thought into its design and as a Debian user I have found it a breath of fresh air08:29
IIIEarsnano works also no?08:29
REdsi install 4.10 warty and it didnt ask me to set the root/admin password08:29
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REdshow do i get access to set this08:29
karstenREds: sudo08:29
cyphaseREds, why warty?08:29
metalsandkarsten, I went through the documentation for wlan-ng (my drviers for eth2 - my PCMCIA device) preformed the update-modules, and I still can't get it to connect08:29
MistiryREds, sudo passwd root08:29
LISPMistiry: do you know how to use vim?08:29
MistiryLISP, no08:30
LISPMistiry: it's simple08:30
MistiryLISP, root@mark:/etc/X11 # vim XF86Config-408:30
MistiryBus error08:30
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LISPMistiry: what the f***?08:30
ivokslol08:30
slakhi08:30
karstenmetalsand: I'm also a tad stumped here.08:30
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REdshaha sorry jus found it thanks cyphase karsten Mistiry cheers08:30
metalsandkarsten, I don't believe it08:30
MistiryREds, yw08:30
karstenmetalsand:  believe it.08:31
Fish-Face*sigh* this network card _still_ won't activate on boot08:31
LISPMistiry: you're problem is not the editor...08:31
slakso like theres a bunch of niggers on your website in a circle, is that really what you want a computer powered by a nigger wheel?08:31
LISPMistiry: that's for sure :P08:31
metalsandkarsten, so what do I do now :x08:31
heavenkarsten: My Linux is also poor! ^_^08:31
MistiryLISP, i used gedit on this file yesterday and it worked....08:31
karstenmetalsand: Panic.08:31
karstenheaven: Heh.08:31
slakcuz last time i checked.. niggers didnt use linux08:31
Fish-FaceWhile booting, this occurs repeatedly: "/fc3/root/at76c503a/at76c503-fw_skel.c: wlan0 disconnecting"08:31
LISPMistiry: try recovery mode08:31
metalsandwoah08:31
slaknor computers..08:31
karstenslak: Get lost.08:31
cyphaseREds, lol, np.. but i was just asking why'd you install 4.10 instead of 5.408:31
metalsandBad words.08:31
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slakwhen they realize it doesnt have a KFC or watermelon button they kinda lose interest08:31
HrdwrBoB5.0408:31
MistiryLISP, i just used gedit again and it worked.....weird08:32
StarveCan it braid my corn rows.08:32
heavenkarsten: Where are you?08:32
Starvethat is all I need to know08:32
REdscyphase, i just had the cd ere, just to test, 5.4 is downloading :D08:32
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cyphaseah08:32
Biagio_'lo, i can't boot from a install cd on my PowerMac G5 dual, even c or c+ option woun'd work08:32
REds;o08:32
Biagio_anyone? :)08:32
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StarveBiagio08:32
Biagio_'lo Starve08:32
Starveuse the fucking operating system designed for that box08:32
slakis the ubuntu mascot a nigger with a t-shirt covered in chicken grease named LEROY?08:32
Starveyou incompetant piece of shit08:32
StarveI'm using  Mac OS X 10.4 (8A428): On A: PowerBook6,5  With: 1 x PowerPC G4  (1.1) Speed: 1.07 GHz  RAM Usage: 359 / 512 [||||||||||]   DiskSpace: 37284 with 37284 Free  Number of process: 63  Uptime: 23:33  up 7 days, 14:36, 1 user, load averages: 0.86 0.85 0.88   - M[osX] S08:33
REdscyphase, u might be able to answer this please, can i use normal debian sources for installing packages08:33
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VampierKarsten stop it08:33
IIIEarsIggy - "Starve"08:33
metalsandAlert. bob2, someone needs a kickban.08:33
Vampieror you will be banned08:33
LISPMistiry: there's something lurking out there...it will happen again :D08:33
Vampierand I am serious08:33
REdscyphase, and would it break the dpkg package db in ubuntu08:33
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MistiryLISP, okay once a file is edited, how do i refresh it?08:33
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karstenheaven: USA08:34
metalsandkarsten, what do you do for a living, and how old are you? :x08:34
LISPMistiry: refresh it? don't get it?08:34
LISPMistiry: refresh it? don't get it08:34
karstenmetalsand: Little, and old enough to know better.08:35
LISPMistiry: save it?08:35
slakubuntu is bloated just like that fat nigger sitting on a grease covered recliner on the corner of 3rd and lamar08:35
Starvekarsten lol want 2 cyber k?08:35
MistiryLISP, i changed some driver specs for my monitor. how do i get the system to see these changes08:35
LISPslak: let me see, you like slackware...08:35
StarveLISP08:35
StarveHAHAHHAHA08:35
slakLISP: wrong.08:35
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slaki like ubuntu08:35
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slakit tastes just like chicken08:35
LISPMistiry: save the file, and restart x08:35
gorilla_slak: riiiightttt... we all belive you..08:36
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MistiryLISP, how do i restart x?08:36
StarveMistiry08:36
StarveRTFM08:36
StarveRTFM08:36
NeoSadistslak, what distribution do you use?08:36
LISPStarve: don't get it too...08:36
StarveRTFM08:36
StarveLISP08:36
Mistiryrtfm?08:36
StarveREAD THE FUCKING MANUAL08:36
Starvenigger.08:36
jordanauMistiry, control-alt-backspace is one way08:36
LISPStarve: i know rtfm >:P08:36
StarveLISP08:36
StarveI wasn't fucking talking to you08:36
LISPStarve: i said about you laughing..08:36
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karstenStarve: Kline.08:36
karsten!ops Starve08:36
slakNeoSadist: I use ubuntu because i like operating systems that are built around the concept of a wheel of slave niggers running my computer for me.08:37
StarveKK!08:37
slaki love it.08:37
karstenGah.08:37
Starvehahaha08:37
NeoSadistslak, welcome to permaban on ##slackware too.  don't disrespect us in front of fellow linux users.08:37
LISPMistiry: go the easy way, and reboot :P08:37
StarveSLAK08:37
slakyou guys should install bullwhip08:37
MistiryLISP, works for me bbiam08:37
slaktell ya what08:37
StarveU R BANNED FROM 2 USELESS DISTRO IRC CHANNELS08:37
StarveWHAT WILL U DO?08:37
slakbullwhip -b makes ubuntu run like a motherfucker.08:37
LISPslak: yeah right08:37
heavenkarsten: En, very good, I'm a chinese.Can you be my friend?08:37
IIIEarsAppplauds Neo08:37
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slaksometimes it comes up with errors though like..08:37
slakMY NAME IS NOT TOBY08:38
slakMY NAME IS NOT TOBY08:38
gorilla_what ever you reckon toby :-)08:38
Biagio_Starve do  you know of Code of Conduct?08:38
jordanausorry guys racist or not, that was funny08:38
slakNeoCool: i don't use slackware nor do i care about a ban in the channel08:38
Starvecode of conduct08:38
slakNeoSadist too.08:38
thoreauputicguys, don't feed the trolls...08:38
Starvetoolate;-D08:38
IIIEarslol08:39
slakso i was installing bucketOFKFC1.10 the other day on my ubuntu and my kernel decided to run down to the liquor store08:39
slakanybody know how to fix that?08:39
Starveyeah08:39
Starvebuy some schlits08:39
Starveand leave it in the fridge08:39
Starveit won't go far08:39
slakoh coo..08:40
LISPenough noise out there...all gtk apps in kde look awful08:40
Starveyeah08:40
LISPis there a way yo sort of make them use other engines?08:40
LISPgtk that is08:40
slakwell i tryed to install maltliquor to get it to behave but for some reason it didnt fork enough child processes and the kernel wanted more.08:40
LISPsort of qt+gtk08:40
ivoksworld is wonderfull place08:40
ivoksu can get entertained for free08:40
ivokslook at slak, for example08:40
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Starveslak do you have the dependencies babymomma2.2.3 and blunt3.508:40
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ivokshe makes us smile for free :)08:41
slaki have babymomma2.1.6 maybe i should upgrade08:41
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Starveyeah08:41
ivokshe's doing an idiot out of him self, and we don't even have to pay for it08:41
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metalsandkarsten, you still around?08:41
karstenmetalsand: Yeah.  And getting rounder.08:42
metalsandrounder? :x08:42
slakivoks: dont be a hater just because i know how to run an operating system that doesnt rely on a small nigger with corn rolls.08:42
ivokslol08:42
karstenheaven: Sorry, got busy.  You still have a question?08:42
gorilla_heh :-)08:42
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-slak:#ubuntu- You have recieved a private memo from slak. To recieve this memo type /server getmemo08:42
jacquesmerdewhat should my /etc/hosts look like if i want the computers hostname and IP address to be set to the rest of the LAN?08:42
jordanauslak sent me a private memo, is that safe?08:43
metalsandhahahha08:43
StarveHAHAHAH08:43
metalsandEven I didn't fall for that :P08:43
slakmorons08:43
slakthe whole lots of you08:43
slaknigger os running morons08:43
slakyou should be ashamed of yourselves.08:43
metalsandSo like, can we get a ban yet.08:43
Starveyeah08:43
Starveyou guys are awfully slow to ban us08:43
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metalsandhahahhaha08:44
metalsandByebye :D08:44
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StarveHOORAY08:44
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gorilla_jordanau, i woudln't trust it... you don't know where it has been.08:44
jordanauhaha kalis08:44
jordanaugorilla_, it just kicked about 5 people08:44
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Starvehmmmn08:44
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Starveno one's banned me yet :(08:45
Starveivoks=owned.08:45
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metalsandjordanau, /server just forces them off their current network and has the join whatever the text is after /server08:45
jordanaufabbione, can you get starve too08:45
Starveplease get me.08:45
ivoksman... this is funny08:45
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jdubStarve: please take it elsewhere, this is completely inappropriate for this channel08:46
Starvejdub eat a dick :-D08:46
Mistiryivoks, i fixed it! the monitor works now :D08:46
metalsandjdud: I think that's why he's here.08:46
ivoksMistiry great08:46
karstenjordanau: No, /server getmemo will disconnect you from the server.08:46
jordanauhow did slak make his name turn purple?08:46
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heavenkarsten:Yes, I have a lot questions! But,no hurry!^_^ I must have more time to solve these problems, I think!08:46
metalsandkarsten, can ya join flood?08:46
Starvewow08:46
Starvejordanau,08:46
Starvewow.08:46
karstenmetalsand: sure.08:46
ivokskarsten :)08:46
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Starvehe typed /part #ubuntu whatever08:46
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ivokskarsten it will connect u to the getmemo server :)08:46
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karstenjdub: One more.08:47
jdubsorry everyone, doesn't happen often.08:47
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calamarihi08:47
gorilla_hi calamari08:47
karstenjdub: Um.  Nope.08:47
jordanaukarsten, who else?08:47
karstenjdub: Already gone.08:47
stuNNedsorry you guys have to waste time on this type of foolishness08:47
jordanauhi calamari08:47
calamarithere is a program that prints all the plain text inside a binary file.. but I can never remember its name.  Anyone remember? :)08:47
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calamarihi gorilla and jordanau08:48
jdubcalamari: strings08:48
gorilla_stuNNed, such as waste of bandwidth also..08:48
karstenjdub: Can Canonical buy a bot for the channel?08:48
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calamarijdub: thanks! :)08:48
shadeofgreyhey everybody!08:48
gorilla_calamari, try strings :-)08:48
stuNNedhi shadeofgrey08:48
shadeofgreyyour NEVER going to believe what i just found08:48
shadeofgreyhttp://www.evolutioncolt.com/pages/documentation/openoffice-2--ubuntu.php08:48
fabbionekarsten: there is very little point in having a bot08:48
karstencalamari strings is my preferred Powerpoint viewer, and I'm *not* kidding.08:48
holycowokay i wont08:48
karstenfabbione: yes, but there's plenty of blunt-force trauma.08:48
IIIEarsi think Lexxan is working on a help bot - not sure how it will be used.08:48
holycowshadeofgrey, i dont believe it08:49
holycow-__08:49
thegreedyturtle?? test08:49
holycow-_-08:49
ivoksshadeofgrey ?08:49
shadeofgreythey offer a script that downloads openoffice the newest version, converts it to debian packages, installs java, and sets all the permissions for you!08:49
ivoksshadeofgrey apt-get install openoffice2?08:49
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jordanauthegreedyturtle, i think the bot is off08:49
Alfred1881hey all i need something to make this kind of arrows (vectors)08:49
Alfred1881http://www.epa.gov/glnpo/atlas/images/big05.gif08:49
thegreedyturtleyaw08:49
holycowshadeofgrey, lol what ivoks said08:49
thegreedyturtleit's called uhelp i think?08:49
shadeofgreyno08:49
shadeofgreysee08:49
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shadeofgreythe one you guys have in the repository is 1.9.7908:50
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thegreedyturtleif you want open office 2 beta, it's in one of the standard repositories... maybe backports i don't remember08:50
jordanauthegreedyturtle, [uhelp] 08:50
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ivoksshadeofgrey and...?08:50
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jsgits in universe08:50
shadeofgreythe one im installing is 1.9.9608:50
ivokswow08:50
shadeofgreytheres a huge difference08:50
ivokslol08:50
thegreedyturtleah08:51
ivoksu can imagine08:51
jordanauholycow, if you have any left over, send some to me08:51
thegreedyturtledoes08:51
shadeofgreyno serioisly08:51
gorilla_shadeofgrey, and the difference... ?08:51
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ivoksthey changed one icon08:51
holycowjordanau, rofl08:51
holycow:)08:51
thegreedyturtledoes the word completion work again?08:51
shadeofgreythe old one DOESNT SUPPORT the new openoffice file format08:51
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ivoksshadeofgrey it does08:51
jacquesmerdewhat should my /etc/hosts look like if i want the computers hostname and IP address to be set to the rest of the LAN?08:51
holycowshadeofgrey, thats kind of a given tho08:51
shadeofgreyand all my openoffice docs are IN that format08:51
holycowshadeofgrey, do i need to reinstall your common sense package?08:51
holycowoh i know you need to be rebooted08:52
gorilla_whos's the silly one then??08:52
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shadeofgreywhatever.  make fun of me if you want08:52
holycowshadeofgrey, its a joke :)08:52
jordanauhey i just noticed that without reboot, my linux clock is getting faster and faster...08:52
ivoksshadeofgrey 1.x doesn't support new format08:52
ivoksshadeofgrey 1.9.x does08:53
IIIEars"Time flies when you are having fun"?08:53
shadeofgreythe resource i found is still worth putting into the wiki08:53
holycowjordanau, how are you timing it?08:53
holycow>_<08:53
jordanauwhat do you mean?08:53
ivoksshadeofgrey u are talking about opendocument08:53
SeveasIIIEars, and fruit flies like a banana08:53
ivoksshadeofgrey old 1.1-1.4 series doesn't support it, but all openoffice2 beta's does support it08:54
thegreedyturtlejordanau, computer clocks are notoriously inaccurate, you have to rclick your clock, select preferences and have it syncronize08:54
ivoksshadeofgrey opendocument is one of bigest shanges in oo.o208:54
holycowit just got ratified by oasis too08:54
ivoksshadeofgrey that doesn't change in such minor revisions08:54
thegreedyturtleit's not on as a default because it connects to the internet to sync your clock, and ubuntu is designed not to do that by default, even if it's just a clock08:54
jordanauthegreedyturtle, you know how to do that in flux :D ?08:54
holycowwhat ivoks the oasis file format is  astandard, standards change slowly, chances of any changes during minute beta releases are close to nil08:55
thegreedyturtlefluhwhat?08:55
Razor-Xholycow: hey again08:55
shadeofgreywell08:55
da_bon_bonhey, i just removed openoffice.org -- now doing apt-get dist-upgrade says that i need to install it once again. :( how do i check which program still depends on ooo ?08:55
holycowhola again :)08:55
jordanauthegreedyturtle, fluxbox?08:55
shadeofgrey1.9.96 has a way cooler splash screen08:55
Razor-XI have one final question08:55
shadeofgreythats really why i wanted it08:55
ivoks:))08:55
holycowshadeofgrey, hahaha :)08:55
shadeofgreyits TRUE08:56
Razor-Xhow does fdisk /mbr patch up a WinXP MBR, even though it was made, originally, for DOS?08:56
holycowhehe nice :)08:56
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, try apt-cache depends openoffice.org08:56
thegreedyturtlewhat is fluxbox, a distro? application?08:56
ivokskick him08:56
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da_bon_bonthoreauputic: ok. thanks. but how do i compare it to list of avilable updats ?08:56
shmoolikhello and good morningy:)08:56
Razor-Xthegreedyturtle: a Window Manager08:56
thegreedyturtlemph... you got me there08:56
jordanaushadeofgrey, just print the picture out on paper and look at it each time you start open office, hell you can have a brand new splash for everything08:56
ivoks:)08:57
gorilla_da_bon_bon, try synatpic :-)08:57
da_bon_bongorilla_: ok08:57
jordanauthegreedyturtle, fluxbox is a low resource minimalist window manager08:57
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gorilla_da_bon_bon,  synaptic rather08:57
shmooliki m looking for the boust-up OpenOffice start for KDE08:57
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shmoolikdoes anyone here remmber this package name?08:57
thegreedyturtleno i know what you are talking about now, but as far as syncinc it's clock... hang on 1 second08:57
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, typing sudo apt-get upgrade should give you a list of available upgrades, if that's what you mean: you could put those in a file and run diff on them08:57
ivoksshmoolik oooqs-kde08:58
jordanauthegreedyturtle, thanks08:58
xris(soon to be former?) fedora user...  anyone around who can help me figure out the modprobe.d stuff to import some settings?08:58
shmoolikthanks ivoks  u a dimond :)08:58
karstengorilla_: Don't forget your signal-to-noise ration coupons.08:58
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: no. i want to see which program in updates depends on openoffice.org08:58
stuNNed /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart will hopefully resync your clock08:58
holycowivoks, hey, it almost seems like ... i donno ... you have used debian once before eh?08:58
holycowjust a hunch08:58
holycowone can never be sure08:58
ivoks:)08:58
holycow>_>08:58
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karstenstuNNed: 'start' should do it.  ntpdate isn't a real service.08:58
ivoksonce before08:58
ivoks:))08:59
karstenstuNNed: ...and stop any ntp servers first.08:59
thegreedyturtleok, look up the ntp package: Network Time Protocol. It runs at a lower level than the x manager, so it should keep your clock sync'd. I'm not quite sure how you'll set it up, since gnome Ubuntu has a little widget for it on the clock08:59
ivoksholycow i don't see ubuntu being any different than debian :)08:59
thegreedyturtleyou will probably also need the ntpdate package as well08:59
Myrttiivoks: then you needa new pair of glasses08:59
karstenivoks: There's a few differences.08:59
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thoreauputicthe ntpdate package is installed by default09:00
karstenivoks: Some cosmetic, some project aims/goals.09:00
ivoksoh, God...09:00
thegreedyturtlethoreauputic, t'wasn't for me...09:00
karstenholycow: We should introduce Canadians to the sport of nerf clubbing.09:00
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holycowkarsten, hehe :)09:00
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holycowkarsten, well it could be mildly entertaining09:01
thoreauputicthegreedyturtle, there's a client and a server: the client is ntpdate and should be installed by default09:01
karstenholycow: So did you hear the joke about ...09:01
gorilla_on a good note, debian sarge is frozen with the aim for a end of may release..09:01
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karstenholycow: ... this fur seal walked into a club ...09:01
IIIEars<< tried a dozen distros - only ubuntu worked without intensive tweaking.09:01
Myrttigorilla_: so the hell has endeed frozen09:01
ivoksMyrtti sorry, i don't use glasses at all09:01
thoreauputicthegreedyturtle, sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate start or restart should sync your clock09:01
karstengorilla_: Did they name the year | decade | century | millennium?09:01
Myrttiivoks: my point exactly09:01
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jordanauthegreedyturtle, yeah i have them already and they arent working correctly i am reading man as we speak09:01
gorilla_karsten: this year... amd64 has stablised..09:02
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ivoksMyrtti and u know what about holycow and I talked about?09:02
holycowheh09:02
holycowi'm wearing a fur seal right now09:02
holycowits not dead yet09:02
thegreedyturtlejordanau, talk to thoreauputic, seems he knows what's up with it, i've never worked with it myself09:02
Myrttiabout debian and ubuntu differences09:02
Myrttiand how they arent't that different to you09:02
ivoksMyrtti well, check again09:02
ivoksah..09:02
thegreedyturtlethoreauputic,  jordanau is trying to get his clock sync'd in the fluxbox windows manager09:02
ivoksu need some sense for humor... and see couple of simles and irony09:02
Razor-Xholycow: how does fdisk /mbr work on a non-DOS distro, if it was originially designed for DOS?09:03
jordanauthegreedyturtle, just got it done09:03
jordanauthanks thoreauputic09:03
thegreedyturtlesounds good to me :)09:03
thoreauputicthegreedyturtle, jordanau , typing that command in a terminal should work regardles of window manager/ desktop09:03
holycowRazor-X, fdisk just writes the partition table, it has nothing to do with dos09:03
jordanaunow i just need to get it to sync regularly09:03
thegreedyturtlei gots to get some Z units09:04
ivokswell... time to go to work...09:04
Razor-Xholycow: but, doesen't fdisk /mbr default to a Windows MBR?09:04
ivoksi have 70 debians waiting for me :)09:04
jacquesmerdewhat should my /etc/hosts look like if i want the computers hostname and IP address to be set to the rest of the LAN?09:04
ivoksRazor-X there is no such thing as windows mbr09:04
IIIEarsRazor-X the first 446 bytes on a disk describe a disk09:04
ivoksRazor-X mbr is only on disk09:04
jordanauthoreauputic, yeah we're all good here09:05
holycowfdisk not sure about the specifics Razor-X09:05
jordanaui havent restarted in about two weeks and it was 20 minutes off!!!09:05
thoreauputicjacquesmerde, your quaetion doesn't seem to make sense...09:05
thoreauputic*question09:05
jacquesmerdethoreauputic, this is what bothers me09:05
ivoksenglish, please09:06
jordanaugood night peoples09:06
stuNNednight jordanau09:06
ivokspeoples :)09:06
jacquesmerdethoreauputic, the other computers on my LAN don't seem to be able to identify my ubuntu machine by its hostname09:06
thoreauputicjacquesmerde, you can only set a machine's IP to one value, surely? A t a time anyway09:06
ivoksjacquesmerde u need DNS09:06
jacquesmerdewell, its on DHCP09:07
ivoksjacquesmerde so what?09:07
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karstenjacquesmerde: Dude.  Static.09:07
ivoksjacquesmerde u steel need dns09:07
thoreauputicjacquesmerde, you need your computer's name and IP in the other machines' /etc/hosts09:07
jacquesmerdeivoks, how do i use this DNS mastery? why doesnt ubuntu do it be default? archlinux does, and it does NOTHING for me by default09:07
ivoksjacquesmerde u are wrong, man09:07
karstenjacquesmerde: Ubuntu aims for desktop.  It doesn't install servers by default.09:07
karstenjacquesmerde: aptitude install bind9 and RTFM.09:08
ivoksjacquesmerde no software knows what computers are on network09:08
jacquesmerdethoreauputic, thats hard if its DHCP though09:08
karstenjacquesmerde: The usual DHCP solution is to provide DNS for IPs, hand them out arbitrarially, and the result is that the hostname doesn't tie to any one computer.09:08
jacquesmerdeivoks, what i plug in 192.168.1.1 into my browser and look at my routers setup, i can click on "dhcp table" and it shows me a "client hostname" for every computer connected EXCEPT for the ubuntu machine09:08
karstenjacquesmerde: Which *still* isn't going to solve your problem.09:09
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IIIEarswon't a router referee DHCP for a LAN?09:09
fdrhello09:09
karstenjacquesmerde: Hint, and I'm going to whisper this in your ear09:09
ivoksjacquesmerde ?09:09
cyphasejacquesmerde, i've had that problem as well. i have to hand set it09:09
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karstenjacquesmerde: YOU DON'T NEED TO USE DHCP FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND IN FACT, YOU DON'T *WANT* TO USE DHCP FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.  FIND AN IP _OUTSIDE_ THE LEASE RANGE, AND ASSIGN IT TO YOUR BOX.09:09
jacquesmerdecyphase, hand set it as in manually set the IP? or set the IP manually on each connection09:09
karstenjacquesmerde: You've been rambling on this crap for hours.  Last clue, dude.09:10
c-sichi:)09:10
cyphasejacquesmerde, i had to hand set a hostname. the IP address was already set09:10
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jacquesmerdekarsten, yeah, i figure that's my contingency plan. but somehow what i'm wanting to do seems so basic i feel i shouldnt need to09:10
thoreauputicjacquesmerde, static IP is quite easy for a small LAN09:10
IIIEarsah09:10
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ivokshe's trying to say that all windows machines provide their hostname to dhcp server09:10
ivoksbut ubuntu doesn't09:10
ivoksi guess09:11
ivoks:)09:11
karstenivoks: That's WINS, not DNS.09:11
joweI'm having trouble getting the driver working for my wireless...:( any ideas? I'm not sure if I found the real driver for windows. I guess I need the bcmwl5.inf one.09:11
jacquesmerdeok, let me put my question in one final form: what are the keywords related to what i'm trying to understand here, so i can google and RTFM09:11
ivokskarsten no, no...09:11
karstenjowe: Talk to metalsand09:11
karstenivoks: yes yes yes.09:11
ivokskarsten when u bring up dhcp server09:11
jacquesmerdejowe, my computer uses that .inf09:11
ivokskarsten and it starts to give leases09:11
karstenivoks: ... Default Windows name resolution order is WINS, then BIND.09:11
ivokskarsten usually it writes something like:09:11
karstenivoks: Your host announces itself to the network via WINS.  That's how it's found.09:11
jowejacquesmerde - do you know where I can download the .inf?09:11
Fahimmorgning.. somebody here who speaks german?09:12
karstenFahim: Nur ein bisschen.09:12
karstenFahim: Velleicht #debian-de ?09:12
freewoodyHi all09:12
thoreauputicFahim,  /join #ubuntu-de09:12
ivokskarsten May  6 09:11:59 localhost dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.230 from 00:11:2f:7e:f5:03 (demosi1) via eth109:12
Fahim:)09:12
freewoodyHow do I setup mrtg in Ubuntu to monitor my network connections09:12
Fahimthx but they are all sleeping there :)09:12
karstenFahim: ...oder #ubunt-de09:12
jacquesmerdejowe, no! i had to get someone on this channel to email it to me09:12
ivokskarsten but then u have: May  6 09:12:08 localhost dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.42 from 00:08:02:c8:7b:0e via eth109:12
metalsandWoah, German09:12
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karstenivoks: Oi.  That's DHCP...09:12
metalsandAck.09:12
Fac51yO!09:12
jowejacquesmerde - lol thanks anyway. I'll have to do the same.09:13
ivokskarsten and that isn't over WINS09:13
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Fac51all i need is a link... i think09:13
fdrhello... I'm trying to use heartbeat under ubuntu, but I'm experiencing some problems. I've heard that downgrading to a kernel 2.6.9 or 2.4.x could help... Is there any such image in the ubuntu repositories? I cannot find any. :-(09:13
Fac51i need sndconfig, but can't seem to find one that will install on Hoary09:13
c-sicmetalsand, woah german...09:13
karstenivoks: Welcome to port 6709:13
FahimSO I will try it in english: I want to connect with WLAN WEP to my router... but my router does not give my laptop with ubuntu a IP With DHCP....09:13
Fahimdoes anybody know what I am doing wrong?09:13
fdrthanks to whoever may help09:13
metalsandGerman is crazy09:13
ivokskarsten u see, some does send hostname, some doesn't09:13
concept10gosh, ubuntu is taking forever to install on my spare celeron 333mhz box09:13
metalsandI'm 50% german, my dad is full.09:13
Seveasfdr, it's called linux-image-SOME_VERSION_NUMBER09:14
metalsandAlthough I know like 6 words.09:14
ivokskarsten this are both windows machines09:14
karstenivoks: DHCP request an IP from a MAC address.  Your point?09:14
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ivokskarsten but look at first request... it writes hostname "(demosi1)"09:14
karstenivoks: Want the RFC references?09:14
jowedoes anyone here have the bcmwl5.inf driver? I need it to get my wireless working.09:14
ivokskarsten :)09:14
holycowkarsten is in a fitin' mood tonite!09:14
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stuNNedheh09:14
karstenholycow: Get stuffed ;-)09:15
metalsandJowe: You ARE trying to get this working for Ubuntu, aren't you?09:15
holycowhehe :)09:15
metalsandkarsten, how do you know German?09:15
ivokskarsten i'm just trying to exaplin what jacquesmerde is complaining about09:15
karstenmetalsand: Good beer.09:15
stuNNedkarsten: so what offeres up the hostname to the dhcp server?09:15
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metalsandkarsten, har har09:15
da_bon_bonhey, has the ubuntu ftp archive key changes ?09:15
SeveasstuNNed, the dhcp client09:15
da_bon_bon*d09:15
stuNNedSeveas: ah ok thanks09:15
fdrSeveas, : yeah, I did that, but I can only find 2.6.10 and 2.6.1109:15
karstenstuNNed: Unless I'm grossly mistaken (and this is a posibility), your typical Windows LAN nameservice is *WINS*, *not* DNS.09:16
jacquesmerdeivoks, am i REALLY an idiot?09:16
jowemetalsand, yeah for ubuntu (well, kubuntu I guess.)09:16
Seveasfdr, apt will not show it if you're on hoary, but you can download the deb from archive.ubuntu.com09:16
ivoksjacquesmerde yes09:16
ivoks:))09:16
stuNNedkarsten: unless WINS is disabled i would guess09:16
karstenstuNNed: Now that's an empirically testable hypothesis.09:16
ivoksjacquesmerde go to /etc/dhcp3 dir09:16
Seveaskarsten, a dhcp client can send a hostname in a dhcp request...09:17
karstenivoks: You sure your windows host doesn't have a locally assigned name it's passing on, or that your logging tool isn't assigning it a name based on a WINS IP lookup?09:17
ivoksjacquesmerde and remove comment "send host-name"09:17
Seveasno need to use wins09:17
jacquesmerdeivoks, /etc/dhcpc?09:17
stuNNedSeveas: how does the dhcp client get the hostname?09:17
ivokskarsten it isn't about logging tool, it's about dhclient09:17
SeveasstuNNed, that's set in /etc/hostname09:17
ivoksjacquesmerde /etc/dhcp3/09:18
Seveasjust the name you gave it upon install09:18
Seveasor another name if you changed it...09:18
ivoksjacquesmerde there is file dhclient.conf09:18
karstenSeveas: DHCP (and also BOOTP with Vendor Extensions) provide a mechanism whereby the server can provide the client with information about how to configure its network interface (e.g., subnet mask), and also how the client can access various network services (e.g., DNS, IP routers, and so on).09:18
karstenSeveas: From TFM>09:18
karstenSeveas: ...dhcpd.09:18
karstenivoks: What's your logger?09:18
jacquesmerdeivoks, sorry09:18
ivokskarsten syslogd09:18
c-sicevoks...lol09:18
karstenivoks: Try tcpdump09:19
ivoks:)09:19
jacquesmerdeivoks, cool. then what's the ubuntu equivalent of /etc/rc.d/network restart?09:19
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ivokskarsten man, dhcp clients can send or don't send their hostnames09:19
ivoksjacquesmerde u don't need to do that09:19
ivokskarsten period09:19
Seveaskarsten, please read a bit more you obviously don;t know all about it09:19
jacquesmerdeediting that text file will spontaneously start hostname sending?09:19
jacquesmerdei had a feeling hostname sending was a simple togglable thing09:20
stuNNedSeveas: heh09:20
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metalsandkarsten is so mysterious.09:20
da_bon_bonhey, gpg key has chnaged ??09:20
da_bon_bonW: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>09:20
karstenSeveas: Didn't say I did.09:20
ivoksjacquesmerde u can try ifup eth0 down and then ifup eth0 up09:20
jacquesmerdeivoks, oh yeah09:20
da_bon_bonjacquesmerde: use gui09:20
jacquesmerdecheers09:20
Seveaskarsten, then please stop telling nonsense and stop confusing others09:20
karstenSeveas: What I *don't* see is anything saying DHCP (w/o proprietary vendor extensions) is communicating hostname to client.09:20
jacquesmerdeda_bon_bon, how do i use the gui?09:20
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karstenSeveas: Prove me wrong.09:20
holycowhttp://www.ifilm.com/?sctn=help&pg=player <-- heh09:20
Seveaskarsten, read the rfc09:20
karstenSeveas: That's not a challenge.09:21
fdrSeveas : is there any search function for archive.ubuntu.com please?09:21
Seveasor even the dhcp client's documentation09:21
karstenSeveas: As it happens, I'm googling for same ATM.09:21
Seveasfdr, packages.ubuntu.com09:21
karstenfdr: Google.09:21
stuNNedkarsten: what's the deal?  a dhcp client can or cannot send the hostname, it seems.09:21
holycowbasically ifilm is telling everyone f.u. turn off popup blocking, antispyware, and all other protection on a machine09:21
holycowamazing09:21
stuNNedholycow: lol09:21
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Seveaskarsten, read the SAMPLE section for man dhclient.conf09:22
karstenstuNNed: The deal is I think the information's wrong.  Point me at an authoritative source that says otherwise and I'll be happy to concede the point.09:22
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karstenstuNNed: Hand waving's shit.09:22
karstenSeveas: Sec.09:22
cyphaseNew IRC channel for The ShoutNet Project ----- Find it at #shoutnet on irc.freenode.com09:23
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ivoksu can even change MAC address09:23
Seveaskarsten, and man dhcp-options can enlighten you too09:24
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thomohi everyone, any fluxbox users about?09:24
stuNNedkarsten: what does WINS have to do with a dhcp server listing hostnames?  i think nothing.  a dhcp server does not support WINS in any form or fashion.09:25
ivoksstuNNed it does09:25
ivoksstuNNed it can provide WINS info to clients :)09:25
stuNNedivoks: aha, thanks for the correction09:25
karstenstuNNed: Stop playing rhetoric.09:25
karstenSeveas: Reading.09:25
metalsandeth2      IEEE 802.11-DS  Nickname:"Prism  I"09:26
metalsand          Mode:Managed09:26
metalsand          RTS thr:off09:26
metalsandWhy does my eth2 display so little data?09:26
karstenmetalsand: ifconfig?09:26
ivoksiwconfig09:26
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metalsandbigpaste... warning09:26
metalsandLink encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:6F:36:90:1109:26
metalsand          inet6 addr: fe80::202:6fff:fe36:9011/64 Scope:Link09:26
metalsand          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:109:26
metalsand          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:009:26
metalsand          TX packets:0 errors:80 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:009:26
metalsand          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100009:26
stuNNedkarsten: be nice, fella09:26
metalsand          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)09:26
Seveasmetalsand, DONT PASTE HERE09:26
metalsand          Interrupt:3 Base address:0x10009:26
metalsandLink encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:6F:36:90:1109:26
metalsand          inet6 addr: fe80::202:6fff:fe36:9011/64 Scope:Link09:26
metalsand          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:109:26
metalsand          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:009:26
ivoksjesus...09:26
metalsand          TX packets:0 errors:80 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:009:26
metalsand          collisions:0 txqueuelen:100009:27
Seveasmetalsand, fool!!09:27
stuNNedin the name of...09:27
metalsand          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)09:27
karstenstuNNed: Be relevant.09:27
metalsand          Interrupt:3 Base address:0x10009:27
metalsandsorry :x09:27
ivokswarning, kickban09:27
ivoks:)09:27
karstenSeveas: What's the server do with the host-name option?09:27
Seveasmetalsand, there's #flood for that or use a pastebin09:27
jacquesmerdeivoks, grrrrr. didnt work09:27
metalsandI'm in flood09:27
metalsandBut i started talking in here09:27
metalsandkarsten, there's no inet address for eth209:27
ivoksjacquesmerde yes it did09:27
Seveaskarsten, the server gets this info from the client if in the client the send host-name directive is used09:28
Seveasand that's what is displayed09:28
jacquesmerdeivoks, lol. no09:28
da_bon_bonsomeone, please tell me the main server gpg key is screwed up ?09:28
ivoksjacquesmerde ur dhcp server now knows the name of ur host09:28
ivoksjacquesmerde but that doesn't mean that u can ping that machine by it's hostname09:28
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ivoksjacquesmerde u need DNS for that09:28
fdrI'm sorry to bother you again, people... but I cannot find any kernel image version 2.6.8/9 nor 2.4.x for i386... could you please have a look and tell me if I'm doing something wrong or it is not there? I searched with packages.ubuntu.com and browsed archive.ubuntulinux.org09:28
karstenSeveas: Got it.   dhcpd.conf(5):  " The DHCP server determines the client's hostname ..."09:28
SeveasMay  6 09:11:59 localhost dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.230 from 00:11:2f:7e:f5:03 (demosi1) via eth109:29
jacquesmerdeivoks, i beg to differ09:29
da_bon_bonHELP!!! W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>09:29
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, "The main server gpg key is screwed up" happy now ? *G*09:29
Seveasthat says that the client sends the hostname 'demosi1' in the dhcp request09:29
Seveasda_bon_bon, try an apt-get update09:29
bob2da_bon_bon: please chill out09:29
jacquesmerdeivoks, i edited the file, ifdown'ed and ifup'ed...09:29
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: no jokes09:29
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, actually I have no idea if that's true BTW09:29
da_bon_bonSeveas: did it 7 times09:29
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: please try apt-get update and u will know09:30
ivoksjacquesmerde now check out ur DHCP server and search for ur hostname09:30
da_bon_bonbob2: any idea what i must do now ?09:30
metalsandbob2: can you help me out with some troubleshooting?09:30
Seveasda_bon_bon, then simply wait, these errors sometimes happen. They will resolve...09:30
karstenSeveas: How does the server resolve name collisions?09:30
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, I'm doing that as we speak09:30
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: thnx09:30
Seveaskarsten, no idea, check out the documentation :)09:30
bob2metalsand: unless it's very specific, I don't have time atm, sorry09:30
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karstenSeveas: Checking, damnit!09:30
da_bon_bonit still is09:30
Seveasda_bon_bon, here too, just wait for an hour or so09:31
karstenSeveas: I stand corrected.09:31
Seveasit will resolve...09:31
IIIEarsWindows Gotcha No #1346 created a 8gig DVD image and windows can't lift anything that big and move it from one drive to another. Linux to the rescue! - any hints?09:31
da_bon_bongreat09:31
da_bon_bonso i am not the only one :)09:31
da_bon_bonanyway, see ya guys after an hours09:31
da_bon_bongotta run09:31
da_bon_bonbye all09:31
jacquesmerdeivoks, i went to dhclient.conf, commented out the line "send host-name "andare.fugue.com"" (NO idea where that line came from), ifdown'ed if up'ed. and checked my router's dhcp client table..09:31
SeveasIIIEars, fat32 file size limit is 4gb09:31
Seveasif your dest. partition is fast32, there's no way of doing this09:31
IIIEarsam i stuck?09:31
ivoksjacquesmerde u fool09:31
ivoksjacquesmerde why didn't u put in ur hostname??09:32
IIIEarscan i DD or something?09:32
karstenIIIEars: What version of 'Doze?  What FS?09:32
SeveasIIIEars, very bad idea09:32
metalsandIIIEars, Rar it into smaller pieces, and create .isos from those?09:32
jacquesmerdeivoks, why should it make a difference?09:32
IIIEarsFat 32 XP09:32
SeveasIIIEars, no eay of doing it09:32
karstenIIIEars: Move on one system, or move to another location?09:32
jacquesmerdeivoks, do i put my hostname in "s?09:32
ivoksjacquesmerde put in ur hostname without .xx.com09:32
karstenmetalsand: man split.09:32
Seveasfat32 cannot handle files that are bigger than 4 gb09:32
karstenIIIEars: 'man split'09:32
Seveasso you're screwed :)09:32
IIIEarsmove to an external USB drive09:32
ivoksjacquesmerde ifdown ethx09:32
jacquesmerdeso "myhost" or myhost?09:32
ivoksjacquesmerde killall -9 dhclient309:32
SeveasIIIEars, usb disks generally are fat32 too09:33
karstenIIIEars: How big's the file, what's the source of it?09:33
ivoksjacquesmerde send host-name "imafool"09:33
karstenSeveas: They can be reformatted ;-)09:33
Seveaskarsten, :o)09:33
IIIEarsGreat! - Linux power. - you guys keep feeding it. :)09:33
SeveasIIIEars, if you format (under windows) your >8gb usb drive into fat32, that's an option09:33
karstenIIIEars: Where is the image now, what FS, and how do you know it's a valid image?09:33
Seveasinto ntfs i meant*09:33
ivoksjacquesmerde don't forget ; as a lst latter09:33
ivoksletter09:33
IIIEarsDual Layer DVD it must be at least 8gigs in a single file a few megs in a descritpor file.09:34
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karstenIIIEars: I'm partial to split and/or netcat myself.09:34
IIIEarsIt's on an NTFS drive09:34
Seveaswhy not leave it on there?09:34
karstenIIIEars: So you created it OK, but can't move it elsewhere, right?09:35
IIIEarsI see trouble comming though my USB is Fat3209:35
transgresshey anyone know if i need to activate something else to get my lappy to hibernate?09:35
IIIEarsExactly - "Super Glued" in place09:35
IIIEarslol09:35
jacquesmerdeivoks, its working fine now. i knew it would be a simple task if i wasnt such a moron09:35
bhoomii am getting dpkg error when i try to upgrade / install a package09:35
Seveasbhoomi, a GPG error?09:36
IIIEarsThank You you threw me a line. i can google the rest. :)09:36
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ivoksjacquesmerde end of story09:36
karstenIIIEars: Try this under linux:  cd /tmp; mkdir foo; cd foo; dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=1m count=20m; split -b 1m bigfile09:36
ishopen(2) mentions a O_LARGEFILE flag.. Where is this defined? a grep of /usr/include reveals nothing...09:36
bhoomiSeveas, dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/zope-groupuserfolder_3.1.1-3ubuntu2_all.deb09:36
karstenIIIEars: ...that creates a 20 MB file, then splits it into 20 1 MB chunks.09:36
Seveasish, most likely in a bits/something include file09:37
karstenIIIEars: the chunks are named bigfile.aa bigfile.ab bigfile.ac ...09:37
karstenIIIEars: ...and you can cat them back together:  cat bigfile.* > bigfile-new09:37
Seveasi think stdio.h should include that too, so try including stdio.h09:37
jacquesmerdeivoks, i'd add a page to the wiki to save people like me a lot of time, but i still dont quite understand what i did09:37
IIIEarsOkay - I can do that. :)09:37
Seveasbhoomi, sorry, no clue on that, maybe someone else...09:37
ivoksjacquesmerde dhclient3 is program that get's IP from dhcp server09:38
bhoomiSeveas, :)09:38
ivoksjacquesmerde /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf is configuration file for that program09:38
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karstenIIIEars: Slight syntax fix:   cd /tmp; mkdir foo; cd foo; dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=$((1024*1024)) count=20; split -b 1m bigfile ; ll09:39
jacquesmerdeivoks, putting the hostname in ServerName in etc/cups/client.conf still doesnt work. all is for naught09:39
IIIEars"; ll" ?09:39
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ivoksjacquesmerde do u know anything about networking?09:40
jacquesmerdeivoks, obviously not09:40
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karstenIIIEars: 'ls -l' Sorry, an alias.09:40
ivoksjacquesmerde then how could i explain enything to u? :)09:40
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IIIEars:)09:40
karstenIIIEars: ...and you should use a prefix, so:  cd /tmp; mkdir foo; cd foo; dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=$((1024*1024)) count=20; split -b 1m bigfile bigfile.; ls -lh09:40
ivoksjacquesmerde cat /etc/resolv.conf09:40
jacquesmerdeivoks, oh, i wasn't asking you to. i thought it was well understood that i was a lost cause09:40
karstenIIIEars: ...which I've actually run, so it works as badvertised.09:41
jacquesmerdeivoks, i have a nameserver, 210.15.254.24009:41
thomofor some reason fluxbox takes much longer to load than gnome. I know that ubuntu is optimised to start gnome fast (very impressive) but does this affect the speed of other window managers?09:41
thoreauputickarsten, "badvertised" is a nice typo ;)09:41
ivoksjacquesmerde so u see, u have nameservers of ur ISP09:41
IIIEarsthe dd command got me interested in linux i love it's power. :)09:42
ivoksjacquesmerde if u put a name in /etc/cups/client.conf it will search that name on couple of places09:42
karstenthoreauputic: Who says it's a typo?09:42
karstenIIIEars: It should get you interested in JCL.09:42
ivoksjacquesmerde first it will look in /etc/hosts to find it there, if it isn't there, it will contact namservers09:42
thoreauputickarsten, heheh OK, just checking - a nice coinage then ;)09:42
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ivoksjacquesmerde nameservers can't know anything about ur local network and they won't have that name too09:43
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jacquesmerdeivoks, i thought the nameserver is what resolves internet url's09:43
IIIEarsHm to google and look smart or ask admit being new and baffled. okay i'll bite. what is "JCL"?09:43
ivoksjacquesmerde yes, that's name resolving, conecting IP with hostname09:43
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jacquesmerdeivoks, yeah, but i want to do that locally...09:44
karstenIIIEars: Job Control Language.09:44
ivoksjacquesmerde u have two options09:44
thoreauputicjacquesmerde, you can run dns for your LAN, but it isn't necessary09:44
karstenIIIEars: dd is actually a mainframe command ported to Unix back in the early days.09:44
ivoksjacquesmerde u can enter all ur hosts in /etc/hosts09:44
IIIEarsGreat! - can i use it to back up an entire disk?09:44
ivoksjacquesmerde or u can setup local DNS09:45
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karstenIIIEars: Yeah, but in general you wouldn't want to.09:45
jacquesmerdeivoks, i now know that my router definitely knows my ubuntu machine's hostname. do i have to go a further step to let other computers on the LAN to be able to use that information?09:45
metalsandtestest09:45
karstenIIIEars: dd ~= Norton Ghost.  But for Linux, tar and equivalents are far more useful.09:45
karstenmetalsand: failfail09:45
ivoksjacquesmerde read again what i just said09:45
jacquesmerdeivoks, i can't set up hosts because i'm on DHCP, yeah?09:45
ivoksjacquesmerde well... right09:45
metalsandI really wish I got my PCMCIA card set up :(09:45
ivoksjacquesmerde so u can setup dns on ur router09:46
metalsandI have a feeling it's going to take a lot of tweaking to get it working09:46
ivoksjacquesmerde and connect it with dhcp09:46
jbmigelI seem to be having some trouble with my firefox flash plugin, when i goto a flash site that does a content pop-up I can only see like 1/5 of the flash page in the new window, the rest of window is white. Has anyone experienced this?09:46
jacquesmerdeivoks, is that hard? am i better off just biting the bullet and switching to static IP's?09:46
IIIEarsGhost is nice. backing up an open OS with proprietary software just doesn't hit me right though. - lol09:46
ivoksjacquesmerde with dhcp-dns09:46
karstenmetalsand: No, it's going to take one tweak.09:46
ivoksjacquesmerde well, it isn't simple :)09:46
karstenmetalsand: ...all the other tweaks _won't_ get it working.09:47
thoreauputicjacquesmerde, how many machnes do you have on your LAN ?09:47
metalsandkarsten, which tweak is that?09:47
karstenmetalsand: ...they'll just stand between you and that one.09:47
karstenmetalsand: The one that works, duh!09:47
metalsandkarsten, which tweak is that?09:47
metalsand:P09:47
karstenmetalsand: Recursion:  See recursion.  See also:  tail-recursion.09:47
jacquesmerdethoreauputic, 409:47
ivokslol09:47
ivoksput them on static IP09:48
thoreauputicjacquesmerde, just do static IP09:48
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metalsandi need some kind of Linux mastermind09:48
metalsandThat knows EVERYTHING.09:48
ivoksi had over 200 machines, and didn't use DHCP09:48
ivoks:)09:48
thoreauputicjacquesmerde, I have 4 machines too, and I use static IP09:48
Seveasmetalsand, you called me?09:48
jacquesmerdeivoks, i'm sorry. i didnt realise what i was asking to do wasnt trivial. i thought i was just a newb. forget it09:48
Seveas;)09:48
ivoksnow i have over 400, so i have to :)09:48
metalsand Seveas: make my PCMCIA Wireless NIC work.09:48
metalsandNow.09:48
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metalsandPlease. :)09:48
Seveasmetalsand, which chip?09:48
metalsandSeveas, Prism 2.509:48
Seveasthere are prism drivers in ubuntu...09:49
Seveasmodprobe them09:49
jacquesmerdeivoks, just editing dhcpd.conf was easy enough to get my router to get the client's hostname, i thought it would be equally trivial to get other computes on the lan to be able to refer to that hostname09:49
metalsandI have wlan-ng09:49
ivokshostap-utils09:49
conorHi, any ideas why my bittornado on ubuntu can't connect to any peers while bittorrent, gnome-bittorrent and so on work without problems?09:49
Seveas(if not automatically modprobed)09:49
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ivoksjacquesmerde i don't know what ur router is09:49
IIIEarsHm. will windows want to open the entire file if i pull it using FTP?09:49
metalsandI got a deb package with synaptic, Seveas09:49
thoreauputicjacquesmerde, just put your 4 machines IPs and names in /etc/hosts on each machine09:49
Seveasmetalsand, which?09:49
metalsandwlan-ng09:49
ivoksjacquesmerde i just know it sends public DNS, and they don't know anything about ur local network09:49
Seveasah09:49
karstenIIIEars: Dunno, that depends on the FTP client.09:49
jacquesmerdethoreauputic, yeah, well i'll have to set up static IP's first09:49
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IIIEarsnever mind i'll give the ubuntu live cd a shot.09:50
metalsandSeveas, it still isn't working.09:50
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thoreauputicjacquesmerde, it isn't hard09:50
Seveashave you modprobed the modules?09:50
metalsandNope, I don't even know what that is09:50
jacquesmerdeivoks, what if i put "hostname@localhost"?09:50
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metalsandI have, however, update-modules09:50
Seveascan you run iwconfig eth1 (or whatever it is)09:50
ivoksjacquesmerde ? :))09:50
karstenIIIEars: I ran into a problem years back on Sun.  IIRC I could either send or receive large (>2 GB) files, but not the other.  Or was it piping output to something else?09:50
metalsandshould I paste in #flood09:50
metalsand?09:50
IIIEarsI love puzzles :)09:50
jacquesmerdeor hostname@localhost.localdomain09:50
karstenIIIEars: ...I don't recall, but it was a tad problemenatic.09:50
Seveasmetalsand, no just answer whether you can or not :)09:50
thoreauputicjacquesmerde, you only need the name, not the @localhost part09:51
metalsandOh, I can.09:51
ivoksjacquesmerde man.. do u have email?09:51
karstenmetalsand: Yes.09:51
Seveasmetalsand, what kind of encryption does your network use?09:51
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metalsandCurrently none09:51
jacquesmerdeivoks, yeah. i have email. thats the one part of networking i CAN get working09:51
Seveasok09:51
metalsandI had WPA when I was using Windows only09:51
dabaSlonmetalsand: welll dont paste here again anyhow...09:51
Seveasiwconfig eth1 essid "YOUR_SSID"09:51
karstenIIIEars: ...the upshot of which is, your FTP client might or might not like getting a large file, depends on how its implemented.09:51
ivoksjacquesmerde so, is it hotmail@hotmail.com or jacq@hotmail.com?09:51
Seveasiwconfig eth1 commit09:51
metalsandNow I'm frightened to use WEP using Linux, I don't want to break anything.09:51
jacquesmerdethe latter09:52
thoreauputicjacquesmerde,  man interfaces09:52
ivoksjacquesmerde so.. it's allways username@hostname09:52
ivoksjacquesmerde localhost IS hostname09:52
Seveasand then try iwconfig eth109:52
Seveasand paste the result in a private chat09:52
ivoksjacquesmerde it's a special hostname, referring to local host :)09:52
metalsandSeveas: done09:52
ivoksjacquesmerde in /etc/hosts u need something like:09:53
ivoksjacquesmerde 192.168.0.2 gaetway09:53
Seveasmetalsand, except that i didn't get the private chat :)09:53
ivoksjacquesmerde 192.168.0.4 mywindowsbox09:53
jacquesmerdeivoks, but that's for static IP09:53
ivoksjacquesmerde etc... then will ping gateway work09:53
ivoksjacquesmerde u have 4 machines! dhcp is overhead09:53
jacquesmerdeif i'm connected to a router which can translate hostnames to IP addresses, why cant i just ask my router what a hostname's IP address is?09:54
ivoksjacquesmerde i give up on u09:54
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Seveasjacquesmerde, in dhhclient.conf you should set the option to always use the router as dns server09:54
ivoksjacquesmerde ur router doesn't translate hostnames, DNS does that, and u are using public DNS09:55
karstenmetalsand: Remove all heavy and sharp objects from the room.09:55
Seveasprepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;09:55
AvvY|WinXPim installing ubuntu on a comp that cant boot CDs. i have a win98 floppy and boot with cd support, but cant figure out how to get into the ubuntu setup process09:55
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SeveasAvvY|WinXP, it won't work that way09:55
AvvY|WinXPwhy not?09:55
ivoksbut CDROM09:55
ivoksbuy09:55
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AvvYis there any other way to do it?09:56
Seveasbecause the booted does does not understand the linux programs09:56
SeveasAvvY, there is a guide on dooing netboot installs, but your computer has to be able to do netboots for that to work09:56
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AvvYwhats netboots?09:56
Seveasi believe there is ongoing work to do a floppy-based install, but it's not functional yet09:57
karstenAvvY: There's alway another way to do it.09:57
Razor-XAvvY: how old is the machine?09:57
karstenAvvY: Always....09:57
ivokstime to go...09:57
AvvYits rather old, old enough to not boot cds. im just wanting it to play with09:57
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karstenAvvY: Move the HD to another system that can boot from CD.  Install there.  Shuttle back.09:57
Razor-Xwell, itt boots CDs09:57
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Razor-Xjust, doesen't boot El Torito09:57
ivoksmaybe he can use debian's floppy?09:57
AvvYi wouldnt bother moving the HDD around09:58
Razor-Xlemme see if I can make a floppy out of a Kubuntu (sorry ,that's the only ISO Ihave) ISO09:58
Seveasivoks, that could be an idea...09:58
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karstenivoks: Should work AFAIK.  It's a standard bootcfg AFAIK.09:58
da_bon_bonwhy is everyone telling to disable marillat before installing mplayer ?09:58
Razor-X*ISO bootsector09:58
ivoksSeveas he would have problems with kernel install09:58
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ivoksSeveas or maybe not... hm...09:58
AvvYok im gonna download a debian boot disk09:58
Seveaskarsten, only the warty cd09:59
Seveasthe hoary cd isn't09:59
ivoksAvvY only boot.img09:59
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Fator_Deeda_bon_bon: because you are npt supposed to install it from marillat? I dunno though :-p09:59
Fator_Dee*npt = not09:59
karstenSeveas: OK.  That's what I've seen.09:59
karstenSeveas: I noticed the boot message.09:59
ivoksda_bon_bon couse they don't know for -t switch for apt-get09:59
karstenSeveas: Amused me slightly.09:59
Seveasda_bon_bon, because hoary is frozen and you will get dependency problems when using marillat unstable09:59
Razor-Xcan fdisk /mbr work with NTFS partitions?10:00
da_bon_bonkarsten: hoary live cd is not on morphix. warty is10:00
jacquesmerdeSeveas, how do i set dhcpclient.conf to do that?10:00
AvvYRazor-X yes10:00
SeveasRazor-X, fdisk /mbr has nothing to do with partitions10:00
ivokswell, bye all10:00
da_bon_bonFator_Dee, ivoks: what Seveas said is most logical :P10:00
karstenda_bon_bon: Yeah, I think I heard that somewhere....10:00
Razor-XSeveas: mmm, please elucidate ;-P10:01
karstenSeveas: Well, outside the first 512 bytes...10:01
da_bon_bonkarsten: then switch to hoary live10:01
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ivoksda_bon_bon :p too u to. live in ignorance10:01
veritas_Back. My connection died10:01
SeveasRazor-X, fdisk /mbr only writes to the boot record (the first 512 bytes of the disk). There is no partition in there...10:01
karstenRazor-X: fdisk /mbr creates a MSFT master boot record.  That's not part of your partitions.10:01
veritas_seveas: Where were we?10:01
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Seveasveritas_, hmm??10:01
veritas_Configuring my PCMCIA NIC10:02
da_bon_bonivoks: :)10:02
Seveasah :)10:02
ivoks:)10:02
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Seveasveritas_, iwconfig eth1 essid "your_ssid" && iwconfig eth1 commit && iwconfig eth110:02
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Razor-Xkarsten, Seveas: yeah, but I was wondering if what it writes to the boot record can boot NTFS10:02
Seveaspaste the output in a private chat10:02
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Fator_Deeda_bon_bon: I was just guessing :-p10:02
SeveasRazor-X, sure10:02
metalsand#flood?10:02
Razor-Xor, is it that, over so many years, the Windows bootloaders doesen't change?10:02
matt1987is there ne1 that can tell me an alternative to wine10:02
Razor-X*hasn't10:03
matt1987a better emulation software10:03
Seveassure, #flood is ok too10:03
da_bon_bonmatt1987: vmware10:03
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matt1987where can i get vmware10:03
AvvYi cant find a debian floppy10:03
Razor-Xit's expensive10:03
da_bon_bonmathew: www.torrentspy.com10:04
Seveasda_bon_bon, vmware is something completely different10:04
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Seveasand please don't advertise using illegal programs10:04
Razor-Xyeah, I was just going to say that10:04
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Razor-Xwhat you do, you do on your own time10:04
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AvvYSeveas: do u know where i an find a debian boot floppy?10:04
MistiryHow do I get Totem Movie player to play WMV files?10:04
Fator_Deeunder your blanket with only the flaslight on :-p10:04
SeveasMistiry, you need to install the w32codecs package for that10:05
Mistiryhow do i do that?10:05
Razor-XAvvY: http://people.debian.org/~dwhedon/boot-floppies/10:05
karstenmatt1987: Beer.10:05
SeveasMistiry, the easyest way is to go to http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org and search for w32codecs10:05
Seveasthere you will find instructions10:05
da_bon_bonRazor-X: i dont use vmware at all10:05
Mistiryok i will see what i see. thanks10:06
AmaranthSeveas: That won't make totem play WMV.10:06
SeveasAmaranth, then what does?10:06
AvvYSeveas: which .iso do u tink i should get?10:06
Amaranthpitfdll10:06
Amaranthit's a gstreamer plugin10:06
thoreauputicMistiry, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats10:06
karstenmatt1987: wine, Crossover Office, Win4Lin, are your basic choices.10:06
cyphaseNew IRC channel for The ShoutNet Project ----- Find it at #shoutnet on irc.freenode.com10:06
Amaranthcyphase: ...10:07
Seveascyphase, stop spamming please10:07
dabaSlonMistiry: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats should have that information, if you had not found it already...10:07
da_bon_bonSeveas: i think cyphase is a bot10:07
SeveasAmaranth, i actually think it's a bot that does this on intervals10:07
Seveaslol :)10:07
cyphaselol, sorry10:07
cyphaseno, im not a bot10:07
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Seveaswell, than just stop spamming :)10:07
AvvYSeveas: which .iso do u tink i should get?10:07
da_bon_bonnice bot, cyphase, real good code10:07
thoreauputiccyphase, are you sure ?10:07
cyphasehaha10:07
dabaSlonits then10:07
yahalomcan someone tell me how to get my CDs? I ordered them over 2 months ago.10:08
karstenda_bon_bon: If it's a bot, it's got really bad grammar.10:08
thoreauputicyahalom, wait patiently10:08
Amaranthyahalom: You'll get a notice when they ship10:08
IIIEarslol - no need to feed the trolls - keep isolated or give them the boot.10:08
da_bon_bonAvvY: u want what ? ubuntu ? or kubuntu ?10:08
AvvYUbuntu10:08
Razor-Xtake the Ubuntu x86 Install disc10:09
yahalomit just takes this long? I give them to my PC customers, and it just sucks to give them my own burned ones...look very unprofessional.10:09
AvvYno, i need a boot floppy10:09
Razor-XAvvY: I gave you the link10:09
AvvYyeah, which link tho? they are huge .isos10:09
yahalomanyone know how i can get xterm to wrte right to left?10:10
yahalomwrte=write10:10
da_bon_bonkarsten: lol10:10
Amaranthcyphase: You're turning a shoutbox into a chat room?10:10
da_bon_bonAmaranth: hey, where does one get notice ? i didnt get any notice for the warty cds10:10
Amaranthda_bon_bon: Neither did I, this is what I was told though.10:10
jacquesmerdemy PIII ubuntu machine with 128 RAM takes quite a while to lod up programs, but is other not too slow. is the bottleneck the RAM or the HDD speed?10:11
cyphaseAmaranth, kiiiind of. a white paper describing it is on the way10:11
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, I believe they should be shipping Real Soon Now (tm)10:11
yahalomcyphase: an e-mail?10:11
Amaranthcyphase: If you know Python I think twisted would be good for that. It seems to make it pretty easy to integrate things like IRC and webpages.10:11
Choubakajacquesmerde: hdd speed usually.10:11
cyphaseAmaranth, thats not what this is trying to be10:12
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da_bon_bonthoreauputic: but still, it will take time to reach india :(10:12
cyphaseyou'll see when you read the white paper10:12
da_bon_bonand, are they SURELY not shipping kubuntu ?10:12
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jacquesmerdeChoubaka, reckon its worth forking out for a new hdd? would  it make a big diff?10:12
IIIEarsYaholom - it's maybe not what you asked but check out the new CD burners "LightScribe" etches labels on disks in any design you choose they aren't very expensive and your customers will love them - not a commercial i promise - lol10:12
Choubakajacquesmerde: depends.10:12
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, yes, i guess so - and to reach Australia too :)10:12
forsaker8k6hi people! got a problem...10:12
Razor-Xhow much swap should I allocate to Ubuntu distro with 256 MB of RAM?10:12
da_bon_boncyphase: ?? bot type10:12
ChoubakaRazor-X: half a GB?10:13
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: australia has great postal service. india does not :(10:13
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cyphaseda_bon_bon, what do you mean bot type?10:13
forsaker8k6when i run sudo apt-get update... i receive some error about an invalid GPG key O_o10:13
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Razor-XChoukaba: hmmm, ok10:13
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, true, but the stuff still ahs to get here: my warty CDs shipped from Switzerland, of all places10:13
thoreauputic*has10:13
da_bon_boncyphase: to make sure that u r SURELY not a bot ;)10:14
Razor-Xdo not insult India! *puffs chest*10:14
Razor-Xjust kidding ;-P10:14
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: how do u know from where were they shipped10:14
orhshey all10:14
thoreauputicforsaker8k6, a few people are reporting this: wait a few hours10:14
da_bon_bonRazor-X: u an indian ?10:14
Razor-Xda_bon_bon: yeah10:14
IIIEarsOops - :/10:14
forsaker8k6ok tnx thoreauputic i'll wait :D10:14
da_bon_bonRazor-X: kaushik10:14
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, the "ch" postmark10:14
da_bon_bonhmm10:14
Razor-Xnot In India, but, yeah....10:14
da_bon_bonThomasWinwood: ohok10:14
Razor-Xda_bon_bon: Koushik ;-P10:15
da_bon_bonRazor-X: then, where r u from ?!10:15
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: ohok10:15
Amaranthda_bon_bon: There are no Kubuntu CDs. Would cost way too much.10:15
Razor-XUSA10:15
da_bon_bonnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo10:15
da_bon_boni want kubuntu10:15
Razor-Xeh?10:15
bob2there are kubuntu cds10:15
da_bon_bon*shouts 10 time*10:15
bob2but Canonical isn't shipping them out for free10:15
Amaranthbob2: Not from shipit...10:15
da_bon_bonbob2: really ? we are getting kubuntu ?10:15
Razor-XI have a Kubuntu iso sitting here10:16
bob2da_bon_bon: not from shipit10:16
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fdrSeveas : lol, it took me a WHILE, but at last I found the kernel. ;-)   Once I've downloaded it should I install with dpkg ?10:16
forsaker8k6why you want kubuntu da_bon_bon10:16
forsaker8k6?10:16
bob2da_bon_bon: also, it's a bit rich complaining that a company on the other side of the world won't ship you things for free10:16
da_bon_bonforsaker8k6: coz i like kde ?10:16
thoreauputicAmaranth, I see kubuntu-desktop is about 100MB - I'll try it, even though I'm on dialup :)10:16
da_bon_bonbob2: i am not complaining. i am requesting10:16
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da_bon_bonRazor-X: if u r not in india, then belive what indians say about india.10:16
forsaker8k6well, maybe i had to ask the question this way: why do you like kde?10:17
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da_bon_bonforsaker8k6: hmm.. why do u like gnome ?10:17
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, do you get decent bandwidth? Even on dialup 100MB isn't impossible once you have Ubuntu installed10:17
da_bon_bonbob2: where do i get the kubuntu cds from ?10:17
forsaker8k6because.. it's more.... free software compliant... and it's cooler :P10:17
Razor-Xda_bon_bon: I know the postal system is shit there10:17
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: i am on a 2kbps cable line :(10:18
Razor-Xthere are a multitude of reasons my parents came, my dad was an IIT grad ;-P10:18
da_bon_bonforsaker8k6: u mean kde isnt free ?10:18
bob2da_bon_bon: you can download them from cdimge.ubuntu.com10:18
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da_bon_bonRazor-X: i wish i was in usa. india -- i dont like it10:18
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, ah, that's a bit slow for anything at all - I sympathise10:18
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Razor-Xcan't help but boast about IIT!10:18
forsaker8k6yes it is.. but it had many *legal* problems... because qt has a very strange license10:18
da_bon_bonbob2: i have, as i said, 2kbps10:18
da_bon_bonforsaker8k6: still i find it better10:18
Razor-Xda_bon_bon: I visit, and, I'm ahppy living here10:18
gorilla_da_bon_bon, yes kde is free but making a master cd for production is expensive.10:18
Razor-X*happy10:18
da_bon_bonbob2: from where do i buy a kubuntu cd ?10:19
forsaker8k6da_bon_bon, well, matter of choices :D10:19
da_bon_bonforsaker8k6: now u get my point10:19
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, there are many on-line Linux shops10:19
forsaker8k6da_bon_bon, yes... but i get payed to predicate for gnome :D10:20
Razor-X*happy10:20
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: i know. theres one for india too.. but i want it from the makers - canonical -- as a gesture to encourage and thank them for making such nice prods10:20
IIIEars;)10:21
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, send a donation then :)10:21
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: why not get a cd in lieu of a donation :)10:21
kalisi have some problems with the cpp preprocessor. When i try to compile XFCE4 with the installer it tells me that it fails "sanity check"10:21
Razor-Xthoreauputic: hmmm, I have seen you on a linux chatroom somewhere.... can't remember where10:22
kalisi have installed the g++ package for gcc, so its not that...10:22
kaliswhat else can it be?10:22
thoreauputicRazor-X, how surprising ;-)10:22
da_bon_bonRazor-X: why not do a whois on him to find?!10:22
thoreauputickalis, sudo apt-get install build-essential10:23
Razor-Xda_bon_bon: as expected, it didn't help that much10:23
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kalisthoreauputic, allready done that. doesnt help me :(10:23
jacquesmerdewhen setting up a static IP address, is the gateway address just the router's IP address on the LAN?10:24
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thoreauputickalis, why compile xfce4 when it's available with synaptic/apt ?10:24
thoreauputickalis, I'm using it right now as a matter of fact10:24
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kalisbecause i want the latest and the greatest ;) the one from the repo doesnt have the quick-lounge thingy10:24
yahalomthoreauputic: i previously had issues with the xfce4 from synaptic10:24
Razor-Xmmm, XFCe10:25
kalisthoreauputic, i am also using Xfce installed from the repo.10:25
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thoreauputicyahalom, it works fine here, - what issues?10:25
Razor-Xit's a real nice Window Manager10:25
yahalomthoreauputic: this time it worked great though, except my sound options cos my panel to crash10:25
TFPhi10:25
da_bon_bonbob2: where do i buy the kubuntu cd from canonical ?10:25
TFPis it possibel to run debian packages on my ubuntu installation?10:25
thoreauputicyahalom, I recommend installing xine and xfmedia10:25
thoreauputicTFP, possible but not recommanded10:26
TFPk10:26
TFPthx10:26
yahalomthoreauputic: like my color theme is brushes chrome, so if i click on sound options in the control center type place, it crashes and reverts to the original colors until i click on another option and then i get my chrome  back10:26
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forsaker8k6farewell people10:26
leww1hello10:26
Fator_DeeRazor-X: and very good for the not-so-high-end-machines :-) (like mine)10:27
merriamTFP: just use universe and multiverse.10:27
yahalomthoreauputic: i have them, my sound works, it when i click on the sound settings its weird, and i never get to see my sound settings, never opens.10:27
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TFPthx I will10:27
da_bon_bonanyway, bye all10:27
leww1I have hoary hedgehog kubuntu, and I am trying to get my Audigy 2 ZS working.  Does anyone know how to get it working?10:27
da_bon_boncya later10:27
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thoreauputicyahalom, hmm... OK I don't really like the brushed chrome look so I don't use it: sounds like a theme issue, not an xfce issue10:27
Razor-XI am never gonna enjoy Romeo and Juliet ever again after my stupid English Honors class -_-10:27
da_bon_bonubuntulog:10:27
shadeofgreyi need to know how to totally remove apps AND all the stored packages that go with them10:28
shadeofgreyhi THOR10:28
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shadeofgreylong time no talk my friend10:28
kalisHmmm! anyone in here got everything with ROX-lib, pygtk, ruby-rox and so on working? mos of all the panel apps for ROX does not work for me.10:28
thoreauputicRazor-X, heheh - studying english can really kill it for you ;) (English major here)10:28
shadeofgrey....sorry ive been away - i had to sell my computer10:28
Razor-Xthoreauputic: o_O" wow.....10:28
thoreauputicshadeofgrey, hi there10:29
Razor-Xlook, Shakespeare's play was a medium that was to be delivered in a matter of hours10:29
thoreauputicRazor-X, long time ago...10:29
shadeofgreythor:  please refresh my memory -- how do you use apt-get to remove applications AND purge the system  of all their settings and downloaded package files?10:29
leww1Can anyone help me get my audigy 2 ZS working?10:29
Razor-Xand, not every playgoer had the script handy, so they could overanalyze to death10:29
thoreauputicshadeofgrey,  sudoa pt-get remove --purge10:29
thoreauputicoops10:29
thoreauputicapt-get remove --purge10:30
shadeofgreyokay10:30
shadeofgreyand then at the end the app name right?10:30
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thoreauputicshadeofgrey, package name, yes10:30
leww1guys what was the wiki page to add more repositries to apt?10:31
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thoreauputicshadeofgrey, that won't work for metapackages or dummy packages, of course10:31
da_bon_bonbye all10:31
thoreauputicda_bon_bon, bye :)10:31
Razor-Xdoes the w32codecs package need any dependancies?10:31
Razor-Xsee ya da_bon_bon10:31
thoreauputicRazor-X, no it's just a set of codecs10:31
da_bon_bonthoreauputic: bye.10:32
da_bon_bonRazor-X: cya10:32
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Razor-Xthoreauputic: needed to be sure, Ubuntu won't really be able to access the internet10:32
Razor-Xso, I can't just apt-get everything :(10:32
thoreauputicRazor-X, make sure it installs in the right place if you do it manually10:32
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thoreauputicRazor-X, best to use a .deb.package if possible10:33
Razor-Xyeah, I know10:33
Razor-Xit's a .deb10:33
Razor-Xdpkg -i xxx.deb10:33
thoreauputicRazor-X, well, it should work with  dpkg -i w32codecs10:33
Razor-Xyeahp10:33
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Razor-Xtomorrow, in three hours, I have to repartition a 40 GB NTFS, install Ubuntu, put GRUB on a bootable floppy, fdisk /mbr, and hope everything goes smoothly10:34
leww1what was the download manager included in KDE?10:34
Razor-Xand so, should I partition before the install, because it seems the installer prefers you partition at the time of install10:35
Razor-X(as i've read in the guide)10:35
stuNNedRazor-X: defrag the NTFS partition and shrink it with the install?10:35
stuNNed*during the install, rather10:35
thoreauputicleww1,  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:35
mathewI10:36
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thoreauputicleww1, thae other question: kynaptic I think10:36
Razor-XstuNNed: gonna defrag, then repartition using knoppix10:36
Razor-Xand, the newer versions of NTFSResize don't need to defragment, as I can see10:37
Razor-Xbut, it's a safety measure, most definitely10:37
thoreauputicRazor-X, make some free space for Ubuntu and you should be good to go10:37
yahalomhow do i unzip a .zip file?10:37
Razor-Xthoreauputic: I have10:37
stuNNedyahalom: unzip file.zip10:37
thoreauputicyahalom, unzip <filename>10:37
Razor-X10 GB free, 6 of that will be partitioned off10:37
jacquesmerdemy printer server problems are solved, now i just have to solve my little latex problem10:38
Razor-Xi'm hoping that, in the available keyboard layouts, Dvorak is included10:38
Choubakashould be.10:38
thoreauputicRazor-X, I seem to recall it is10:38
yahalomthoreauputic, do u use rox or xffm?10:38
thoreauputicyahalom, rox10:38
yahalomthoreauputic, cos my rox is weird10:38
thoreauputicyahalom, I use rox in gnome, too10:39
yahalomthoreauputic, it displays the icon text off the right10:39
jacquesmerdexffm is the shit. i have no idea what the fuss is about10:39
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yahalomthoreauputic, DOCUMENTS ICON10:39
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yahalomthoreauputic,               documents10:39
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yahalomthoreauputic, so its like the the text for one icon is under the next one10:39
thoreauputicyahalom, rox is very configurable - read the help: it is actually helpful, for a change10:39
sjohnsonis there an installation manual for this OS?  i installed it, but now it feels like i just got thrown in the water without a lifesaver10:39
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yahalomthoreauputic, thanx10:40
Razor-Xsjohnson: as a matter of fact, there is10:40
sjohnsonRazor-X: thanks10:40
thoreauputicsjohnson, there's a manual on the install CD - it's a bit outdated though10:40
Razor-Xsjohnson: http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/install/10:40
Razor-Xthere's a hoary install guide10:40
Razor-XI did all my homework si I can finish the install without a hitch in 3 hours10:41
sjohnsonwow10:41
Razor-Xbecause, if my parents catch me......10:41
sjohnsonthis is what i was looking for, thanks man10:41
Razor-X*so10:41
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Razor-Xafter that, there is a guide to using Ubuntu too10:42
sjohnsonnow... don't you think a Link like this should be on the main website?10:42
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sjohnsonsomeone should not have to come and ask for basic install info.. i didn't even know it was on the CD until you told me and didn't see any hints on the website10:42
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Razor-Xsjohnson: true ;-P, but a little Google never hurt nobody... (purposeful use of double negatives)10:42
calamarido I have any chance of playing a DRM'ed WMA file in Linux?10:42
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Choubakaperhaps10:43
Razor-Xwith Linux it's a _very_ useful fact to get as much documentation as you can10:43
thoreauputicsjohnson, agreed, it should be on the website prominently10:43
apax0rcan ubuntu boot on a DVD-r record?10:43
Choubakadoesn't depend on ubuntu, but your bios :P10:43
Funraiserhello Ubuntians, I'm looking for a specific file in my system it is "j2re" how can i find it, i type whereis j2re?10:43
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thoreauputicFunraiser, have you installed java ?10:44
Funraiseryes10:44
webmindFunraiser, or locate10:44
ekCohello hello, im using ubuntu, 64bit generic kernel, i've updated it all and got my nforce drivers installed, but my video card drivers wont..10:44
ekCois there a different driver for PCI-E nvidia cards?10:44
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veritas_AR!10:45
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apax0rChoubaka uhm, you got a point. but there isnt any release of ubuntu that i can burn on a DVD-r?10:45
SeveasFunraiser, there is no file called j2re10:45
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Choubakaapax0r: there's no DVD iso afaik.10:45
FunraiserSeveas, it's j2re1.3 actually10:45
thoreauputicFunraiser, what are you trying to do?10:45
apax0rok..10:45
ekCoapax0r, its possible, just download hoary hedgehog openup a dvd and install it as an image..10:45
ekCoworked for me :/10:45
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SeveasFunraiser, the only j2re$VERSION files are in the installer10:46
ekCoso can anyone help my prob?10:46
apax0rok..10:46
thoreauputicFunraiser, the only way that could exist is if you installed an old version of java10:46
Razor-Xyes, finished!10:46
Razor-XEvery single Romeo and Juliet Act has been an all-nighter10:46
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Razor-Xsome later than others10:46
Funraiserthoreauputic, i'm trying to find where the file j2re1.3 is on my system to do a chmod a+w (to fill my taxes online)10:46
apax0rdoes ubuntu install X so it works from start or do i have to configure X?10:47
Seveasapax0r, usually it works from start10:47
Seveasonly if you have a really weird card it won't :)10:47
thoreauputicFunraiser, umm - but is java installed at all?10:47
Funraiserit is10:47
apax0rk, i guess that depends on my gfx. :)10:47
ekCook10:47
Seveaswhich card do you have?10:47
Funraiseri installed azureus so java is installed and working10:47
thoreauputicFunraiser, OK - and it's the 1.3 version?10:47
SeveasFunraiser, you are missing out on some clue...10:47
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apax0rSeveas hehe i have GeForce 4 MX 440-SE (suckie card)10:48
Seveasthe java runtime environment doesn't have to be writeable10:48
Seveasapax0r, that one works10:48
apax0rok nice :)10:48
ekCoI have an ASUS SLI DELUXE MOBO, i've currently installed the nforce drivers, but my video card, 6600GT BFG PCI-E wont install the drivers.. it comes up with an LIBC in a different directory.. which drivers are the correct to be installing? or what can i do to get my video card installed?10:48
Seveasapax0r, you might give the nvidia drivers a try too for some performance10:48
apax0ryea10:48
Seveassee the BinaryDriverHowto page on the wiki10:48
apax0rok, thanks for the help10:49
danielsekCo: http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriverHowot10:49
Funraiserthoreauputic, that's the part i'm not sure that'x why i was asking the method to find the file like locate or whereis j2re* or whereis j2re? ?10:49
danielser, Howto10:49
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thoreauputicFunraiser, the locate command should find it: run sudo updatedb if it hasn't already run through cron daily10:50
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Funraiserk10:50
thoreauputicFunraiser, updatedb updates the file database10:50
Funraiserk10:50
thoreauputicit takes a while to run10:50
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ekCothanks10:51
ekCobrb10:51
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thoreauputicFunraiser, if you installed java using the instructions on the wiki or ubuntuguide.org, you will have version 1.5.*10:52
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Funraiserthoreauputic, yes it's the one10:53
Funraiseri have10:53
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Funraiseri remember now10:53
Funraiser1.5 something10:53
Razor-Xfinished, I am!10:53
Razor-Xgood night everyone10:54
Funraisergood morning10:54
IIIEars G'nite Razor-X10:54
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luke_whats a good media player that you would recommend?10:54
Funraiserxine10:54
Seveastotem/beep-media-player/mplayer10:54
Seveasmy preferences :)10:54
luke_ok cool thanks! :)10:54
Funraiserthoreauputic, locate j2re* doens't work, even though i have the 1.5 version for azureus10:55
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thoreauputicFunraiser, try locate java | less10:56
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airoxHi.10:56
thoreauputicFunraiser, that should pop up a lot of stuff :)10:56
airoxI have installed Zend Studio. But I can't seem to type in '10:56
shadeofgreyhey thor10:56
thoreauputicshadeofgrey, yes?10:57
airoxIt is a death key, and after pressing enter it doesn't get printed.10:57
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Funraiserthoreauputic, i does10:57
Funraiserit*10:57
shadeofgreyare you familiar with the install script by evolution colt that automatically downloads java AND downloads and installs openoffice 1.9.97?10:57
airoxIs there something I need to tweak in the Java package ?10:57
thoreauputicFunraiser, space key to look through it, if you didn't know already10:57
thoreauputicshadeofgrey, no - heard of it is all10:58
Funraiserthoreauputic, i was using enter10:58
Funraiser?10:58
AzMooHow do I install a .deb file?10:58
shadeofgreyanybody here use it?10:58
thoreauputicAzMoo,  sudp dpkg -i <packagename>10:59
AzMoocheers10:59
shadeofgreyhey for what its worth..  im really glad to see you thor10:59
thoreauputicAzMoo, sorry sudo10:59
thoreauputictypo10:59
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shadeofgreyi had to disappear for a long while.... a dear friend of mine passed away and i had to sell my computer to get the money to travel to his funeral11:00
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thoreauputicFunraiser, in the less pager, enter only scrolls a line at a time11:00
shadeofgreylife was very hard without my P.C.11:00
thoreauputicshadeofgrey, sorry to hear about your friend11:00
shadeofgreythor:  its alright.  he had cancer for a long time and....  im just really glad hes not hurting anymore11:01
Funraisershadeofgrey, u mean sad he's not suffering anymore?11:02
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airoxWeird stuff ...11:02
shadeofgreyno11:02
shadeofgreyim glad hes not suffering anymore11:02
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Funraiserwell yes sorry11:03
shadeofgreywow11:03
shadeofgreythis install script kicks serious ass11:04
shadeofgreyi sure hope it works11:04
Funraisershadeofgrey, where do u live and where was your friend living?11:04
Rattboishadeofgrey: what install script?11:04
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shadeofgreyim in florida and had to fly to holland11:04
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shadeofgreyratt: it downloads java and openoffice 1.9.95 and installs them both11:05
shadeofgreyon ubuntu hoary11:05
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shadeofgreyi really love this operating system11:06
Funraiseri used to live in florida for 2 years...where u at?11:06
Rattboishadeofgrey: can't you do that with synaptic?11:06
certhei people out of curiosity do anyone here using hp pavillion zt3000 and get their sd card reader working?11:06
shadeofgreyi wish i could get my boss to let me replace all the windows xp machines with ubuntu workstations11:06
certshadeofgrey : welcome to the club11:06
shadeofgreyFun:  boca raton11:06
Funraiserk11:07
RattboiI'm gonna do a dirty thing and install Hoary on my new mac mini :)11:07
Funraisernice place11:07
Rattboiwell, dual boot11:07
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shadeofgreyyou can dual boot macs?11:07
Choubakasure. :P11:07
whiteknightshadeofgrey, yup, am doing it now :d11:07
Rattboiwhiteknight, sweet11:07
Rattboiwhat are you running on?11:07
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Fittihello11:07
whiteknightRattboi, G4 iBook11:07
thoreauputicshadeofgrey, I have an iBook laptop that dual boots Ubuntu :)11:07
certhei people out of curiosity do anyone here using hp pavillion zt3000 and get their sd card reader working?11:07
whiteknighti still need os x to watch dvds and also itunes11:08
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whiteknightthoreauputic, can you run dvds at a proper speed?11:09
thoreauputicwhiteknight, have a look at Mac-on-Linux for those multimedia things11:09
shadeofgreyid just like to say...  tiger kicks ass too11:09
jsgotangcothoreauputic, hey nice to see you again11:09
whiteknightthoreauputic, good point11:09
thoreauputicwhiteknight, you might need to turn dma on for your dvd drive11:09
Funraiseri've been reading somewhere that many Ubuntu hackers have an ibook11:09
shadeofgreyand i dont care what anybody says - NOBODY can touch the apple 30" cinema display11:09
shadeofgreythat shit is just obscenely cool11:10
thoreauputicwhiteknight, use hdparm and /etc/hdparm.conf11:10
whiteknightthoreauputic, done that, its just a bit to slow - i reckon its the lack of an accelerated driver11:10
Rattboishadeofgrey: but you CAN get a comparable 20" apple display for half the price11:10
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dynohi11:10
Choubaka30" is quite much overkill11:10
thoreauputicjsgotangco, hi there :)11:10
whiteknightthoreauputic, its only a 800mhz G411:10
Choubakaunless you're a graphics pro. :O11:10
Rattboithoreauputic: are there packages for MoL?11:10
shadeofgreyi hope they debut a 62" at the mac conf in june like i was reading about11:10
dynodoes anyone know anything about alsaconf in ubuntu?11:10
Rattboior did you need to recompile kernel?11:10
thoreauputicRattboi, yes, but you need to follow the howto11:11
shadeofgreyokay i need help with something11:11
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thoreauputicRattboi, I'l get the link - hang on11:11
Funraiserwell thanks all see u later11:11
shadeofgreyhey11:12
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shadeofgreyis  there a winamp for linux?11:12
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jsgotangcoxmms11:12
whiteknightbmp11:12
whiteknightbeep media player11:12
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Rattboibmp is my fav11:12
shadeofgreywhich is better?11:12
thoreauputicRattboi, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MacOnLinuxHowto11:12
whiteknightbmp is just a updated version of xmms11:12
shadeofgreyi tried xmms...  it looked like shit11:12
Rattboishadeofgrey: yeah11:12
dynoi did not find anything for using my RME soundcard with ubuntu :/11:12
Rattboibmp is xmms w/ GTK211:13
Rattboiso it looks a lot better11:13
shadeofgreyis it part of apt get?11:13
IIIEars ubuntu and synaptic make both easy to try - remove the one you don't like.11:13
thoreauputicjsgotangco, nice chatting with you at UDU - how are you?11:13
dynoaptitude works well :)11:13
jsgotangcothoreauputic, been doing well, quite busy, i saw you chatting for quite some time with bob2 during UDU hope it went well on your side11:13
thoreauputicRattboi, got that MOL link?11:14
Rattboiyeah11:14
Rattboican't do much with it yet11:14
thoreauputicjsgotangco, yes, we got on well :)11:14
Rattboisince I don't have the mini for probably another week11:14
jsgotangcoexcellent11:14
dynono one can help me?11:14
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IIIEarsI keep hearing that - just a little timid to change install programs - what if i get soe type of error - it isn't easy being new to linux.11:14
sjohnsonis there anyone who has any power over Ubuntu?  The documentation is the worst I have ever seen!  And plus, when you first start out, it just tells you to download the images, select "install" on a drive, and then leaves you to it...11:15
thoreauputicjsgotangco, he is much more approachable than his IRC persona suggests ;-)11:15
jsgotangcohaha11:15
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sjohnsonjust like if you were thrown off a boat into the water with no life jacket, why is it like this?11:15
p0rnflakeSomeone got a minutte to help me out with a little dns resolution problem11:15
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thoreauputicsjohnson, there is a lot of good documentation on the wiki11:15
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bob2hah11:16
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jsgotangcosjohnson, we're working on the documentation thing11:16
bob2surely my irc persona is not that bd11:16
dynoyes but nothing about alsaconf...11:16
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jsgotangcohah11:16
thoreauputicbob2, it isn't at all - I was kidding :)11:16
sjohnsonjsgotangco: : ok.. cause i'm thinking at least an official handbook would be of IMMENSE help, and this Wiki stuff is pretty ramshackle.. for example, a user should know RIGHT AWAY what to do about setting a root password11:16
p0rnflakeCan someone explain to me why I'm unable to resolve dns names when my /etc/resolv.conf is correct ?11:17
thoreauputicbob2, you know I don't have any problems with you...11:17
dynothanks to ignore my request...11:17
thoreauputicbob2, BTW I enjoyed our meeting11:17
jsgotangconot all users want the root account but anyway, ill pass this on the docteam11:17
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Rattboithoreauputic: for MoL, what kind of RAM did you set up?11:18
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thoreauputicRattboi, I specified 512MB (I have 768 total)11:19
thoreauputicRattboi, seems to work well11:19
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sjohnsonis there an OFFICIAL guide that tells you how to use apt-get properly for this OS?  I can't get w32codecs to install or get recognized using apt-get11:19
sjohnsonthe unofficial guide tells me to change around all my files without any explanation whatsoever11:19
bob2that's the wrong question11:19
Rattboithoreauputic: does it have to run in a host window, or can it work within a window manager?11:20
IIIEarsjsgottangco - Will Ubuntu "Breezy" include the no execute "NX" memory flag?11:20
thoreauputicsjohnson, for w32codecs you'll need the MArillat repos11:20
jsgotangconot the marillat thing again11:20
jsgotangco:(11:20
whiteknightsjohnson, how about this: http://ubuntuguide.org/11:20
whiteknightsjohnson, its the unoffical one but pretty good11:20
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sjohnsonyeah i read that, but my file (i just installed the OS) is not consistent at all with the repos change advice11:21
thoreauputicRattboi, it can run nested or on its own display - it runs better on its own tty ( usually defaults to tty8)11:21
sjohnsonsorry dudes if i'm sounding really pissed off, but tiny thigns like these are really frustrating.. it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence11:21
thoreauputicsjohnson, is this your first linux install?11:22
sjohnsonin other words, what UbuntuGuide says to look for, is not searchable.. it's different11:22
sjohnsonno, i used to use slackware, openbsd, and freebsd11:22
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thoreauputichttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/   << sjohnson  - a good place to search11:22
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bob2sjohnson: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb11:23
jsgotangcowhy not just get the tarball from mplayer11:23
bob2sjohnson: download that file, and run 'sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb'.11:23
IIIEarssjohnosn - relax, I have less than two weeks using linux and if i can do it you can too. :)11:23
sjohnsonIIIEars: thanks bro11:23
thoreauputicbob2, actually I found the "unstable" marillat version works fine: but disabling marillat in sources.list afterwrds seems to solve other issues11:24
bob2it can make mplayer uninstallable11:25
thoreauputicbob2, hmm - I installed the multiverse mplayer afterwards: but as I say, I commented marillat out before installing it and after installing the codecs11:26
bob2yes11:26
bob2that will work11:26
sjohnsoni think it might be because I'm from Canada, the config files are very different than listed in the UbuntuGuide11:26
bob2they will be almost identical11:26
thoreauputicsjohnson, which config files?11:26
Seveasmaybe /etc/apt/sources.list11:27
Seveasit could use ca.archive.ubuntu.com11:27
sjohnson/etc/apt/sources.list11:28
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thoreauputicbob2, BTW I'm not really impressed with mplayer versus xine (which works beautifully) - is it only for the plugins that mplayer is so popular?11:28
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bob2sjohnson: the only difference will be adding 3 charcters to the urls11:29
bob2that doesn't seem fatally confusing ;)11:29
sjohnsonbob2: yeah.. but basically different stuff was commented out than the UbuntuGuide.. I'll e-mail him, tell him I'm from Canada11:29
bob2thoreauputic: I just like it for it's simplicity.  run it, it shows me a video.  no wasted space on guis or config things or whatever.11:29
bob2sjohnson: er, that won't have changed11:29
thoreauputicsjohnson, FWIW, I just added multiverse to the end of each universe line11:29
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sjohnsonbob2: i don't know why it is different then11:30
bob2sjohnson: paste the file to #flood11:30
sjohnsoni tried finishing the intructions... and i got a GPG error trying to complete the repos stuff11:30
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thoreauputicsjohnson, in the default file, just uncomment all the sources and package lines11:31
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bob2sjohnson: that seems to be a problem with the archive11:31
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thoreauputicsjohnson, did you change the default mirror?11:31
phxguycan someone please tell me what i need to open a .docbook file11:31
merriamthoreauputic: the deb of mplayer isn't as good as the ebuild11:31
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bob2phxguy: where did you get it from?11:31
bob2merriam: in what way?11:32
bob2phxguy: it's not something you can usefully display, it's the source code for a document11:32
thoreauputicmerriam, OK - well I'm quite happy with Xine - also xfmedia plays videos , mp3, and ogg etc - I like it too11:32
merriambob2: the deb doesn't seem to include full screen or so many codecs.11:32
phxguyfrom the internet... im trying open the docs for kipiplugins for digikam11:32
bob2merriam: which codecs is it missing?11:33
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thoreauputicmerriam, the extra codecs are available in the win32codecs package11:33
merriamI forget.  I don't have a recent deb working here.11:33
merriamI meant with the codecs package.11:33
merriamstill no full screen, right?11:33
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jiyuu0sjohnson, or you can get the snapshots of all the ubuntuguide apps in http://ubuntuguide.org/add-on-cd11:34
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thoreauputicmerriam, it doesn't resize by default, whereas Xine does, and runs full screen as well11:35
DJ_Miragemoin11:35
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sjohnsonthoreauputic: i don't know anything about the default mirror, i just did what UbuntuGuide told me to do, and GPG is whining11:36
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sjohnsonW: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>11:36
sjohnsonW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems11:36
bob2sjohnson: yes, as I said, known problem, which is being fixed11:36
thoreauputicsjohnson, as bob2 says, currently there seem to be some issues with the archive gpg11:36
bob2merriam: did you use -vo xv?11:37
merriamno11:37
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bob2there you go11:37
thoreauputicbob2, the .au mirror seems to be OK11:37
merriambob2: ah :)11:38
gorilla_go aussie!!! :-)11:38
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bob2hah, au.archive.ubuntu.com is in the uk11:38
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Adrossanyone know where the image of the rhythmbox system icon is located?11:38
thoreauputicbob2, really? How odd!11:38
rudi-rudiAdross, /usr/share/pixmaps/rhythmbox.png11:38
gorilla_bob2: don't say that :-P11:39
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sjohnsonthanks bob11:39
bob2well, it points at the same machine as archive.ubuntu.com11:39
thoreauputicbob2, anyway, changing to it seems to have fixed the gpg issue here11:39
Adrossrudi-rudi: thats not the system icon11:39
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rudi-rudiAdross, and what is "system" icon?11:40
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Adrossthe one that sites in the notification applet, like gaim11:41
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thoreauputicAdross,  try " locate rhythmbox | grep icon " maybe11:42
thoreauputicAdross, /usr/share/gnome/help/rhythmbox/C/figures/rhythmbox-tray-icon.png  ?11:42
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rudi-rudiAdross: then /usr/share/rhythmbox/art11:43
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thoreauputicah, that's a help thing sorry11:43
Adrossthanks rudi-rudi11:44
rudi-rudiAdross, ok11:44
Adrosswell, see you all later, you rock man11:44
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sjohnsonwhat does apt-get update try to do? it quit after doing some stuff at the GPG error, and now i have no idea where i stand11:44
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thoreauputicsjohnson, it updates the list of installable packages11:45
mmichelligood morning all11:45
sjohnsoni installed w32codecs, but still can't play mp3s11:46
rudi-rudisjohnson: try install gstreamer-plugins11:46
sjohnsonthanks11:46
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thoreauputicsjohnson, and maybe mpg32111:47
dynodon't you think that I could try a manual config of alsa? or it won't work? plz11:47
sjohnsonahh... no installation certificate it complains when i try gstreamer11:47
wezzer-sjohnson: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad11:47
wezzer-that will help11:47
mmichelliI'm trying to install netbeans 4.1 and get asked the question in the installation wizard, where is the J2SE JDK home directory? Where is it?11:47
dynoI'm musician and I really would like to work with ubuntu...11:47
sjohnsonim doing it, it's working.. but what is "mad"?11:47
Fittii'm traying to uninstall vpopmail but it give me an error11:47
wezzer-sjohnson: don't know, but it will play mp3's :)11:48
sjohnsonthanks, if it weren't for you guys, there's no way i would have gotten Ubuntu working11:48
rudi-rudisjohnson: mad = mpeg audio decoder ;-)))11:49
thoreauputicsjohnson, if you want to rip mp3 from CD, install grip and lame ( in the multiverse repo)11:49
rudi-rudisjohnson: or cdparanoia and lame for console ripping.11:50
thoreauputicsjohnson, to use sound-juicer for mp3 you'd need gsreamer-lame from marillat11:50
thoreauputicactually gstreamer0.8-lame I think11:50
sjohnsonoh man11:50
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thoreauputicsjohnson, the lame + grip solution is easiest for mp3 ripping11:51
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nopeaif I install a package with Synaptic and later wanted to remove it would I just remove it in Synaptic?11:52
thoreauputicnopea, sure11:52
sjohnsonfuuuuuuuuuuck... im gonna hit the sack guys11:52
sjohnsonthanks for all the help11:52
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nopeathoreauputic, cool would it remove any libraries no longer needed?11:53
wdhnopea, nope..11:54
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wdhnopea, only if you specify what libraries you want to remove11:54
thoreauputicnopea, I don't think so, no ( I may be wrong) I think you'd need deborphan for that11:54
thoreauputicnopea,  apt-cache show deborphan11:55
nopeathoreauputic, cool thanks11:55
thoreauputicno worries :)11:55
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wdhW: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>11:56
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wdhwhat should i do with that error?11:56
thoreauputicwdh, known issue, being worked on11:56
wdhah.. ok.11:57
IIIEarsthoreauputic - getting set up and everything in ubuntu to your liking takes a little time - could there be an application to easily back everything up?11:57
wdhmeanwhile it is safe to do upgrades?11:57
thoreauputicwdh, the archive servers are doing something odd11:57
shmoolikcan i make windows the defulte system on grub?11:57
wdhshmoolik, yes11:57
wdh:P11:57
thoreauputicIIIEars, there are quite a few - e.g.rsync, tar, dd11:58
resiakshmoolik: Sure. vim /boot/grub/menu.lst and edit as appropriate.11:58
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wdhresiak, how cruel of you, to send him into vim :)11:58
shmoolikresiak,  is there any howto on that ?11:58
shmoolikand i m useing Gedit11:59
wdhshmoolik, just use gedit yes..11:59
wdhthere is an entry called 'default'11:59
thoreauputicIIIEars, if you mean back up all your configs, it isn't necessary if you use dist-upgrade to upgrade your system11:59
wdhjust change the number after that as appropriate11:59
resiakshmoolik: Set the "default" line to the appropriate number.11:59
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wdhzero (0) being the first entry11:59
nopeawith deborphan is there a command to auto remove orphaned libs?11:59
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wdhnopea, not that i know of.. combine the commands :)12:00
thoreauputicnopea, I haven't used deborphan, but I'm sure the man page tells you ;)12:00
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IIIEarsrsync and tar are for files wich is good though they all have to be done from the command line manually.12:00
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wdhIIIEars, any chance you could use some interpunction?? so we actually understand what you are saying?12:01
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wdhthere's more to language then just words12:01
thoreauputicIIIEars, you can also use the gnome file-roller to tar files for backup if you wish12:01
IIIEarsdd is better it saves the partition structure but still it doesn't save the mbr there are no scripts to do it.12:02
xukunanybody know why I get this if I run apt-get update: "GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following s ignatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing"12:02
IIIEarslol12:02
wdhxukun, its being worked on12:02
IIIEarsFile-Roller hm. - didn't know that.12:02
wdhIIIEars, dd is better. It saves the partition sructure, but still it doesn't save the mbr. There are no scripts to do it.12:02
thoreauputicIIIEars, you can use dd to save the mbr ( it's just the first 512 bytes on the hard drive), but be careful!12:03
wdhIIIEars, lots easier to read :)12:03
xukunwdh: so I just ignore it for now?12:03
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wdhxukun, yes12:03
IIIEarslol  (I should take the hint and get a few hours of sleep.)12:03
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wdhxukun, thats what they told me :) i just came here with the same question12:04
Fator_Deesleep is overrated, coffee \o/12:04
shmoolikwdh :) hum... were do i just add the 'default' ?12:04
petemcplenty of time to sleep when you're dead12:04
wdhshmoolik, there should be a line in there already12:04
IIIEarsWindows XP used to crash often enough to act as a reminder to get some rest.12:04
shmoolikhum... i don't have any ....12:05
shmoolikwith defaukt i mean12:05
shmoolikdefault*12:05
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wdhin my menu.lst, the first option is "default num"12:06
shmoolikoh ! i c thanks12:06
wdh:P12:06
shmoolikthen i just put the number of menu item  right :)12:06
wdhyes.. zero being the first item12:07
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shmoolikthanks man 112:07
shmoolik!*12:07
wdhshmoolik, but reconsider the windows default :P12:07
rasthi12:07
shmoolikhum ... i don't have lisence to matlab in linux12:08
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nosvpos no ase na12:08
shmoolikand i really need a good exal ... which i don't have on ubuntu =\12:08
wdhshmoolik, there are a few matlab derivatives on linux..12:08
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shmoolikyeah i tryed them12:09
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shmoolikoctave12:09
orhshey all12:09
wdhshmoolik, didnt like them?12:09
graabeinhoy12:09
shmooliki don't know they don't work12:09
wdhshmoolik, and doesnt matlab run in wine?12:09
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shmoolikmatlab on wine! gods no! i have P3 !12:10
siimohi how do i check the version of ubuntu im running? is it, cat /etc/<whats the file name>12:10
shmooliki and ilike to metal will i script math12:10
orhsanyone know some god themes to gnome?12:10
wdhsiimo, yes it is :P12:10
orhsgoog*12:10
orhsgood :P12:11
siimowdh, nvm12:11
gorilla_lol :-)12:11
transgressi'm beginning to wonder if it's worth getting a 30 gig mp3 player when i have 10 gigs of music12:11
chmjsiimo: cat /etc/lsb-release12:11
siimoits cat /etc/issueissue12:11
siimoissue12:11
shmoolikokay ppl thank u very much12:11
Corvustransgress, you have the answer :)12:11
wdhsiimo, i already thought your 'ls' was just as good as mine :)12:12
wdhtransgress, think 'future12:12
transgressi do however get more mp3's as time goes by... and i want to stop using my CD's... so hmm... decisions...12:12
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airoxYay, got the ubuntu cd sets :)12:12
siimowdh, unfortunately there are 167 possibilities in /etc/ so thought someone here would know quicker12:12
airoxTime to bring ubuntu to all my friends :)12:12
wdhtransgress, and if it plays flac :)12:12
orhsairox, did it cost?12:13
Fator_Deetransgress: you can use it as a storage also12:13
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dynogood you could make freesbee with that shit12:13
airoxorhs: no.12:13
mirakhi12:13
orhsairox, totaly free?12:13
airoxYes.12:13
tanektransgress: ive got 30gb mp3 and a 60gb mp3player12:13
transgressi'm looking at the nomad...12:13
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tanekthats what i have12:14
transgressorhs: shipit.ubuntu.com  <--awesome12:14
transgresstanek: how do you like it?12:14
mirakusb is broken in breezy, the modprobe sd_mod fix the problem for mass storage, however I can't make work my usb printer. Also I have a new usb device called subgar, it's capture video usb card, and I don't know how I can know which module to load12:14
wdhorhs, check ubuntulinux.com for shipit12:14
airoxReally amazing! :D12:14
tanektransgress: i like it a lot, it's pretty large compared to the ipod, but the price makes up for that12:14
transgressmirak: stuff broken in breezy?  you're shitting me.12:14
MattJhrmm i just installed muine, and when i play mp3s it says playing, but there is no sound12:15
miraktransgress: sarcasm forbidden12:15
transgressno way in hell am i spending that much on ipod when there are cheaper choices...12:15
transgressmirak: ha!12:15
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transgressipods are just too much for what they offer12:15
miraktransgress: most of the time break are really minor12:15
tanektransgress: just what i thought when i got mine. and i haven't regretted it12:15
mirakbreaks12:15
mirakI don't know how the update packages, but that's a big bug to not have been spotted by the packager himself ^^12:16
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transgressi'd like to get an iRiver, but those are worse than macs... but they are like the only ones that play oggs12:17
seb128mirak: printer issue is known12:17
tanektransgress: there are customized firmware to nomads that lets them play ogg12:17
transgresstanek: nice... so gonna have to get a nomad12:18
seb128mirak: and don't use breezy to blame the packagers...12:18
tanekyeah :P12:18
transgressnow to decide if i should get my cell first or my mp3 player12:18
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tanekat least i've heard atbout such firmware, dont have any oggs hardly12:18
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veritas_https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary12:18
veritas_At the end of that guide12:18
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transgressyeah well i plan on ripping most of my cd's12:19
veritas_Step 1012:19
veritas_Load the module12:19
veritas_How exactly do I do that?12:19
transgressp0m: why are you installing old ubuntu?12:19
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p0mtransgress: No new CD's yet.12:19
p0mI'll be installing Hoary when it arrives.12:19
transgressi see...12:19
transgressnot have broadband then?12:19
p0mI trashed the sound somehow, and I can't be bothered fixing it right now.12:19
p0mNope.12:19
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metalsandcan someone answer me?12:20
wdhmetalsand, sure :)12:20
metalsandwdh: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary12:20
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metalsandStep 10 says to load the module12:20
metalsandHow do I do that?12:20
transgresswow... it's weird... for once in my life... i have money...12:20
mirakseb128: I don't blame them, I ask how does he do12:21
tanekcool, give me some transgress12:21
tanek:D12:21
wdhmetalsand, next time, just ask your question :)12:21
wdhmetalsand, i think modprobe will do the job12:21
transgressNO!  MY MONEY!12:21
tanek:(12:21
orhswee i will get 20 cds with ubuntu on it :D12:21
MattJis there anyone to disable when you minimize a window you see the black box gets smaller as it minimizes to the try?12:21
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transgressbut if you need food, a place to crash, etc... my place is open to most.12:22
MattJtray*12:22
mirakseb128: my question is if it's general to all usb device12:22
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seb128mirak: "that's a big bug to not have been spotted by the packager himself"12:22
metalsandwdh: Why would there be a step 10 then12:22
metalsandOh, nm.12:22
metalsand<---- 3:22 AM, lack of sleep12:22
seb128mirak: you really want to use hoary12:22
metalsandGreat. I modprobe FATALs12:22
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mirakseb128: too late, I resisted (j'ai crack comme on dit)12:22
mirakseb128: I cracked12:23
miraklol12:23
transgressi think i shall wait to get my mp3 player until after i get my cell phone12:23
seb128mirak: quand on craque on s'en prend  soi-mme12:23
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mirakseb128: et alors encore une fois j'ai blam personne12:23
orhsi want to organize a linux campain in my city were i give away ubuntu linux cds :D12:23
mirakseb128: je demande juste si y a une solution12:23
seb128mirak: on se plaint pas que des gens changent des choses dans une version de la distrib faite pour a12:23
mirakseb128: j'ai insult personne12:23
orhsi may need more than 20 though12:23
seb128mirak: "that's a big bug to not have been spotted by the packager himself"12:23
mirakseb128: certe mais a empeche pas de chercher des solutions12:23
transgressorhs: are there more than 20 people that could install linux in your town?12:23
mirakseb128: "that's a big bug to not have been spotted by the packager himself what a moron"12:24
seb128mirak:  quel pb? et bugzilla pour les bugs12:24
mirakseb128: now it's a blame12:24
miraklol12:24
mirakok12:24
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orhstransgress, sure12:24
seb128mirak: that was the same idea before12:24
transgresslucky12:24
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mirakseb128: no. since I am not a packager nor anything else, I wonder HOW he can't have spotted that bug12:24
zenwheni converted 23 people to Linux with warty disks from cononical12:24
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mirakseb128: if you know the process of packaging you proably know12:25
zenwheni plan to do the same with hoary12:25
zenwheni actually installed it for them12:25
mirakI don't, I am curious12:25
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mirakseb128: if he didn't not rebooted is system or don't have any usb storage he probably didn't noticed the problem12:25
mirakthat's my guess12:25
ardiemich just wanted to say that the point "System Administration" comes 2 times: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/EverydayUsage12:25
transgressfed ex guy is gonna hate me12:25
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mirakseb128: or he uses hoary still ^^12:26
zenwhenfed ex guy is gonna hate me too12:26
zenwhenif i have to kick him in the nuts for not bringing my iBook today12:26
transgresshaha you ordered an ibook?12:26
zenwhenyeah12:26
transgressi was gonna... i still might... just not for a couple months12:26
transgressi ended up getting an HP instead12:26
zenwhenI couldnt keep waiting for the new ones.12:26
seb128mirak: or the bug is due a conjonction of packages not changed by the same maintainer/together12:26
transgressbecause the cache on the ibook chips are only 512k versus 2megs12:26
zenwhenI am not that patient.12:26
seb128mirak: or the bug is due to a package automatically synced from debian12:27
orhswere do i i get the ibook?12:27
transgresszenwhen: they are supposed to give you a coupon for the new OS12:27
transgressorhs: apple.com12:27
zenwhentransgress, i made my decision not based on hardware but based on software and battery life12:27
Rattboiorhs: are you a student?12:27
zenwhentransgress, yes they are going to12:27
seb128mirak: or the maintainer has not the same component on his computer as you and doesn't get the bug12:27
zenwhenI wanted a powerful portable configured out of the box ubix workstation12:27
orhsRattboi, no iam 14 years old y??12:27
transgresszenwhen: that's cool.  well my software on my lappy is great... it's ubuntu... heh.  the hardware is great too.12:27
zenwhenand thats what I got12:27
zenwhenunix*12:28
Rattboiorhs: you're 14 and not a student?12:28
Rattboiapple has student discounts on hardware12:28
mirakseb128: ok12:28
transgressi need to get on my lappy and plug it in for a bit... going out tomorrow... gonna need it12:28
orhsRattboi, of course iam a student :P12:28
Rattboijust telling you because I just bought a mac mini and didn't know about that12:28
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transgressshit i gotta be up in like... 5 hours12:28
zenwhenI also just happen to love aqua.12:28
Rattboizenwhen: yeah, pretty goddamn sweet12:29
orhsRattboi, why did u wonder??12:29
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Rattboiyou mentioned wanting an iBook12:29
Rattboior something12:29
Rattboijust thought you might want to know you can get it cheaper if you're a student12:29
orhscool tnx12:29
zenwhenI casnt wait to use adium, which is OSX's gaim12:29
guupstamorning12:29
mirakseb128: could you help me on something ? I try to know the module that a particular device uses. I don't know how I can know that. dmesg or lspci tells me info about the device, but I don't how I can find wich module relate to wich device12:29
transgressi wish i were a student... i hear that saves a shitload12:29
Rattboizenwhen: Adium is awesome12:29
zenwhencan't*12:29
zenwhenyeah it looks really sweet12:29
Rattboiit is SO much better than gaim12:30
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transgressyeah the fedex guy is gonna be coming to my house so much the next few days12:30
mirakin general12:30
zenwhenI am not a huge fan of prprietary software, but OSX is wonderful.12:30
Rattboiit uses webkit to render, so people make themes and functionality with webpages, basically12:30
transgressbecause i keep ordering shit from amazon... from the used section... i have so many books coming to me that i can't remember all of what i ordered12:30
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gorilla_transgress, yes it does such that the store makes a loss on the wholesale price untill Apple pays them the difference.12:30
seb128mirak: there is no general way atm, that's going to be adressed for breezy12:30
transgressosx is pretty good12:30
ekCohow do you install an rpm?12:30
seb128mirak: lspci -v or dmesg to get the device and google then ...12:30
ekColike run lol12:30
ekCobeen ages since i used this beast12:30
RattboiecKo: use a repackager...12:31
transgressdo they offer a business discount?12:31
Rattboilemme find the name12:31
zenwhenalien package.rpm12:31
Rattboialien12:31
Rattboithat's right12:31
fsapoekCo, use alien12:31
mirakseb128: ok12:31
zenwhensudo dpkg -i package.rpm12:31
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Rattboizenwhen: are you gonna run Ubuntu on your ibook?12:31
ekCocheers12:31
zenwheni mean .deb12:31
zenwhenlol12:31
mirakseb128: I guess here it would be lsusb :)12:31
zenwhenRattboi, no.12:31
mirakfor usb devices12:31
zenwhenI am going to run OSX on it12:31
Rattboijust ditching then?12:31
Rattboiyou can dual boot12:31
zenwhenI have this machine for Uuntu.12:31
zenwhenos[Linux 2.6.10-4-686-smp - Debian 3.1]  up[7 days, 11 hours, 18 minutes]  cpu[Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz SMP (2 processors), 3006.976 MHz (11960.31 bogomips)]  mem[959.75/1011.91 MB (94.8%)]  video[ at 2304x1024 (24 bits)] 12:32
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seb128mirak: probably12:32
ircbot_wow... we needed all that zenwhen :)12:32
ekCozenwhen, came up with an erro :o12:32
zenwhenit was one line12:32
zenwhenon my side12:32
zenwhensorry if it bothered anyone12:33
ircbot_it was 4 here heh... it's all good12:33
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zenwhenoff to work12:33
ircbot_ah my gorgeous lappy12:33
zenwhenbye guys12:33
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ircbot_bye?12:33
ircbot_well fine12:33
ircbot_just leave12:33
ircbot_my lappy feels cold12:34
ekComm12:34
guupstais it hurt?12:34
ekCois there an ap-get command for cedega?12:34
ekCobecause it seems it wont install on this 64bit box ><!12:34
ircbot_ekCo: cedega isn't free12:34
p0mI was about to say.12:34
ircbot_by any stretch of the word12:35
ekCosome versions are ><!12:35
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veritas_Ugh, i'm having an issue with this module install12:35
ircbot_azureus cedega.torrent is the closest you get12:35
veritas_is there anyone that can help me out?12:35
Seveaswhich module?12:35
veritas_The same one, Seveas12:35
Seveasai, it's you :)12:35
veritas_I had to finish up some homework while my mind was still semi functioning :P12:35
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metalsandI went through it but I still FATAL12:36
metalsandAre you in #flood?12:36
Seveaswhat are you trying to modprobe?12:36
Seveasprism_cs?12:36
metalsandyes12:36
ircbot_hmm... gzip had an update12:37
metalsandJoin flood, please sev. :x12:37
ircbot_why is this not so in ubuntu12:37
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Seveasrun updatedb (wait a while for it to finish) and then type sudo slocate prism12:37
ekCoargh!12:37
metalsandAhhhh12:37
metalsandSo that just wasn't included in the instructions?12:37
Seveasgzip, it has an update in ubuntu to12:37
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Seveasmetalsand, i just want to make sure the kernel module got built and installed :)12:38
ircbot_err i meant why is it not so in kubuntu12:38
ircbot_my bad12:38
Seveasircbot_, same comment :)12:38
Seveashave you enabled the ubuntu security repository?12:38
transgresswell i just tried dist-upgrade and it said nothing12:38
transgressi think so12:38
transgresslet me look12:38
transgressyes i have12:38
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ircbot_there any power management stuff in ubuntu for a lappy?  i'm trying to find a way to make this beauty hibernate12:40
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transgressah i needed to do an update on this box12:41
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metalsandircbot_, system --> Log out -- > Hybernate this computer12:42
metalsandIs that what you're looking for?12:42
thoreauputicjust checking how bad my lag is - can someone type "pong" or something, please?12:42
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ircbot_metalsand: i was kind of wanting something that can make it hibernate when i shut it12:43
topylibong12:43
metalsandircbot_, None that I know of :(12:44
ircbot_bleh... i know suse has something like that... there must be something!12:44
metalsandJust log out and switch into windows ;)12:44
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thoreauputictopyli: thanks - it's bad! I'm downloading on dialup atm (kubuntu-desktop)12:44
ircbot_i took that shit off of my boxen... i don't support that capitalist pig12:44
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topyliheh12:45
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orhswere do i get kubuntu?12:45
ircbot_i suppose it could be worse... could be downloading fedora over dialup...12:45
ircbot_kubuntu.org orhs12:45
topyliircbot_: never mind the business model, it's just hard to support that's all12:45
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azadhey there.. how to change my standard-dns server? when i reboot it always sets back to my router12:46
ircbot_his business model is being a capitalist pig.  heh12:46
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tessierHello all!12:46
orhshow does kubuntu work???12:47
orhsand what does it do when i install it??12:47
ircbot_wtf12:47
topyliit begins to run :)12:47
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ircbot_if you don't know what kubuntu is/does i think you may be in over you head12:47
ircbot_there a wiki on doing an nfs server on ubuntu?12:48
orhsso its a program like gnome??12:48
thoreauputicorhs: it does KDE things :)12:48
ircbot_orhs:  it's an OS like ubuntu... but with kde instead of gnome12:48
topyliorhs: it's ubuntu but with kde instead of gnome12:48
topylihehe12:48
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orhsso i have to reinstall ubuntu?12:49
ircbot_taha!  i am the fast typing king!  well if me and topyli are the only ones going for the ruler of typing position12:49
ekCois wine usable on 64bit?12:49
ekCoor do you have to build a 32 bit12:49
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ircbot_orhs: well you are technically supposed to be able to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and that would work... but that fucked things up when i tried12:49
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ircbot_i'm beginning to think i might should ice down my ear lobe...12:50
ekCo><12:50
orhsircbot_, hmm so all i can do is to download KDE and then i got kubuntu?? :P12:50
ekCois there an option to apt-get wine?12:50
ivokshello12:50
ekCoi want to install system shock 2, im using ubuntu 64bit12:50
ircbot_orhs: in a nutshell... but i can't promise it'll work12:51
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topyliorhs: there's a "kubuntu-desktop" metapackage. install that and you're done12:52
ircbot_topyli: if it works heh12:52
orhstopyli, is KDE better than gnome?12:52
ircbot_orhs: that's a bad thing to ask12:52
topyliyeah well, orhs is done after that, i don't know if the system is12:53
topyliorhs: kde users seem to think so12:53
ircbot_but gnome users would disagree12:53
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orhshehe12:53
ircbot_me... i have a kubuntu desktop and an ubuntu lappy12:53
xukunwhich client can I use for vpn connection?12:53
ircbot_whichever you want12:53
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ircbot_but the easiest would probably be the one that installs out of the box12:54
ekCoircbot_ is there an option to get wine using apt-get?12:54
ircbot_ekCo: did you try apt-get install wine12:54
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xukunircbot_: which one would that be?12:54
ircbot_realvnc12:55
ircbot_as a matter of fact i need to get that kicking12:55
xukunrealvnc for vpn? hmm12:55
ircbot_oh oops12:55
ircbot_sorry i misread your question12:55
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miraknow I have the vendor id and the device id, how can I guess what module I should load ?12:56
mirakfor an usb device12:56
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ircbot_xukun: try openvpn or secvpn12:56
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ekCoyes ircbot_12:57
mirakxukun: if you use openvpn I suggest you use tunneldigger plus tunneldigger-utils12:57
mirakit helps configuring12:57
mirakwith minimum effort12:58
ekConothing came out of it12:58
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xukunmirak: what about vpnc?12:58
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mirakxukun: I don't know, I configured openvpn yesterday and it works12:59
mirakopenvpn seems to be what is advised12:59
veritas_is there a way to paste into terminal without right click --> paste01:00
Seveas<ctrl><shift><v>01:00
Seveas<ctrl><shift><c> is copy01:00
ircbot_grar... trying to connect vnc locked up vnc01:00
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ircbot_that doesn't make me happy01:00
mirakhow can I know wich device matchs wich module, when I already know the device and vendor id, given by lspic or lsusb ?01:00
metalsandI restarted, Sev. I'm going to try it now after I've downloaded build essentials01:00
Seveasok01:01
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Seveassorry that i was gone earlier, but i have to do some homework too :)01:01
ArdieMwhy do i have to press 4 times the "^" to make a ^^ ... normally i just have to press 2 times01:01
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ekCodoes anyone have system shock 2 installed01:01
metalsandUGH!01:01
metalsandOh my god, what the heck :(01:02
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ArdieM:) system shock 2 hahahaha01:02
wdhzenwhen, Rattboi, Adium?? will it be available for ubuntu any time soon?01:02
MuffieAnyone knows how fdisk calculates the size of a disk? For a certain disk of mine, it shows 5764216+ blocks (for 1 partition), and 23552424 (for another partition). Looks like the correct number of megabytes of each partition (its a 30gb HD). But...  the size, shows me this: Disk /dev/hdd: 2111 MB, 2111864832 bytes. fdisk dont let me use more than 2gb!!!. Im trying to install Ubuntu on this disk. But the partitioning tool only us01:02
Muffiees 2gb...01:02
guupstadamn that's a good game01:02
eruinso01:02
metalsandSame error, Seveas... What the hell is wrong with this01:02
eruinI'm using breezy and openoffice.org2 for my 7 day home exams01:02
eruin:P01:02
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azadhey there.. how to change my standard-dns server? when i reboot it always sets back to my router01:04
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azadafter i edited resolv.conf01:04
ircbot_stupid thing locked up kde01:05
wdhazad, i think 'dhclient' resets it01:05
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azadmhh thanks wdh01:06
wdhazad, a nice workaround could be to statically set your ip, and disable dhcp01:06
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transgresslets try this again01:06
azadmhh well.. that doesn't work wdh, if i take away power from my router and restart it, it could give me another ip.. it's easier to set the dns server in the router config then01:07
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wdhazad, usually routers do not care whether an ip is given by itself or just manually entered by you01:08
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azadhmhh.. well.. it ain't a problem to use the router as dns server either01:08
azadbut thanks, maybe i'll set sth like that up when i got more experience01:09
wdhazad, then why bother? :P01:09
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ivokswhy do i feel i hurd this talk before? :)01:09
metalsandwdh01:09
wdhazad, as long as it works :)01:09
ivokshurd/heard01:09
metalsandcan you look at something and see why I'm erroring01:09
azadthought it'd work easier maybe01:09
frehi, i work in a computershop, and i was wondering if it's legal to sell ubuntu cd's01:10
ivoksfre it is01:10
freok tnx :)01:10
ivoksbut u should provide support01:10
azadis it?01:10
eleusisof course it's legal :-\01:10
wdhmetalsand, just ask a question here in the channel.. if i can answer it, i will.. if i cant, someone else will01:10
azadif you earn money with other ppls work? for which you didn't pay01:10
thoreauputicfre: for the price of packaging etc, yes - others are selling them01:11
transgresswoohhoo.  ggot   this shizzle working.  altougggh it seems it screws up   my tyypingg.01:11
ivoksazad GPL01:11
freok tnx thoreauputic01:11
metalsandwdh: but i need to paste a bunch of text01:11
wdhfre, just be nice :)01:11
ircbot_man that was a lovely sentence... apparently kde and vnc don't get along real well01:11
metalsandand I don't wnat everyone to trip01:11
wdhmetalsand, www.pastebin.com01:11
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wdhmetalsand, but first try to get the usefull information out of it.. and think about it yourself.. and then ask your question01:12
wdhfre, just be nice on your customers :P01:12
ivoksah... /me is going on breezy01:12
wdhivoks, daredevil :)01:12
queuetueSo, is zeroconf/howl/bnonjour "in" ubuntu?  What kinds of things does it do?01:12
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ivokswdh well, if i plan to do some packages for it, i should use it, tight :)01:13
wdhqueuetue, apt-cache show ""01:13
metalsandhttp://pastebin.com/28038301:13
Scorpinfneed help, im new to linux, im trying to install Mplayer. but when i do configure with -gui option it complain about PNG, how do i install PNG ?01:13
metalsandI get that error01:13
wdhivoks, guess so :)01:13
metalsandWhen I run make config01:13
frewdh: i know what you mean :)01:13
metalsandIn step 6 of https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary01:13
queuetuewdh, Does that mean No?01:13
thoreauputicqueuetue: automagic finding of other services/machines on the network ( eg macs)01:13
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queuetuethoreauputic, a) Does ubuntu suport it, and b) what does it support it for?01:14
thoreauputicqueuetue: I don't know the answer to that01:14
mirakso nobody knows how modules are bound to usb devices ?01:14
ivoks?01:15
wdhqueuetue, sorry, misread your question01:15
mmichellihi i just installed jdk 1.5 and now am trying to install netbeans, where does jdk install make the home directory01:15
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queuetuewdh, What question did your answer actually anwer? :)01:15
wdhqueuetue, effectively, none :P01:15
metalsandwdh, you checking out the postebine?01:15
thoreauputicqueuetue: try apt-cache search howl - it pops up a few entries01:16
queuetuewdh, That's what *I* thought. :)01:16
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wdhmetalsand, as i told you, get us a real question.. tell us what you are doing, possibly why you are doing it, and then explain what went wrong..01:16
metalsandIf you read up01:16
metalsandIn step 6 of https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary01:17
wdhmetalsand, sorry, missed that01:17
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ivokshm... is breezy developed from hoary or sid?01:18
transgressultra sid01:18
metalsandAs to why I'm doing that01:19
metalsandI'm trying to get my PCMCIA NIC working01:19
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metalsandSo, I can use that to access supoorted Linux software01:19
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ircbot_i'm off to bed01:19
ircbot_see you guys tomorrow01:19
Xenguys/b01:19
ivoksbye01:19
Xenguysorry01:19
airoxWhen changing keyboard mappings, should I restart x.org or something ?01:19
metalsandmy current wireless card isn't supported for anything I want to use01:19
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ivoksmetalsand ?01:20
ivoksmetalsand prism2, IIRC01:20
azadPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key  <- erk?01:20
metalsandWhat about prism2, ivoks01:20
ivoksmetalsand u have prsim2?01:20
metalsandYes01:20
ivoksand u say that prism2 isn't supported on linux?01:21
metalsandno01:21
thoreauputicazad: known issue, currently being worked on01:21
metalsandthat's the card I'm trying to get working01:21
azadokay01:21
whiteknighthehe its the best supported card01:21
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LickerDoes anyone have any spare time to help me install some software?01:21
ivoksi find ipw2200 to bu much better supported :)01:22
metalsandToo bad it doesn't work with ubuntu by default01:22
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ivoksmetalsand just install modules01:22
metalsandhahahha...01:22
wdhLicker, just ask your question01:22
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metalsandScroll up ivok01:22
metalsandwdh, did you find anything?01:22
thoreauputicLicker: tell us what, and how you are attempting to install it01:22
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wdhmetalsand, no, afraid i cannot help you.. im not really familiar with installing modules myself01:23
metalsandk... Well, after 13 hours off and on trying to get this card to work01:23
metalsandI have failed01:23
metalsandI'm going to bed now01:23
LickerI did. lol. I need some help. I am installing http://www.hostingsoftware.net . I did the Using apt for debian But I got lost. And need help.01:23
whiteknightmetalsand, oh, i was going to offer to help01:23
ivoksmetalsand u can't compile modules or what?01:23
metalsandwhiteknight: if you think you can help me I'll stick around01:23
metalsandI'd only get 2 hours of sleep anyway01:24
metalsandmight as well just stay up01:24
whiteknightmetalsand, what exactly is your card, and what point have you go to?01:24
wdhLicker, installing a website? :P01:24
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metalsandSeano NL 2511 PLUS EXT 201:24
metalsandhttp://pastebin.com/280383 I recieved that error (pasted in pastebin) when I was at step 8 of this guide: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary01:25
gooAre there any repositories for Firefox nightly builds?01:25
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LickerIm installing a web/mail server with a user interface so that my users can login/out through the web.01:25
metalsandstep 7*01:25
Rattboigoo, why not use the firefox installer?01:26
Rattboiit's very easy01:26
wdhmetalsand, earlier it was step 6? :S01:26
gooRattboi: because I really like apt?01:26
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metalsandIt's Step 7... See the Make All command.01:26
metalsandThat's when I get that error01:26
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ivoksmetalsand omg01:26
wdhmetalsand, earlier you complained about the 'make config' :S01:26
ivoksmetalsand apt-get install linux-sources-2.6.1001:27
ivoksmetalsand cd /usr/src/linux-sources-2.6.1001:27
gooRattboi: using seperate installers for every bloody program just breaks the whole idea of having a package management tool, don't you think?01:27
InitMassi'm having a problem with dcguiqt. it doesn't save my configuration even if i push save01:27
ivoksmetalsand zcat /proc/config.gz > .config01:27
ivoksmetalsand make oldconfig01:27
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topyligoo: it does. no nightly debs around though01:27
metalsandwowwoow... slow down :P01:28
ivoksmetalsand hury up01:28
gootopyli: aight. What I suspected after googling around. Thanks :)01:28
metalsandReading package lists... Done01:28
metalsandBuilding dependency tree... Done01:28
metalsandE: Couldn't find package linux-sources-2.6.1001:28
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ivoksmetalsand linux-source-2.6.10, typo01:28
thoreauputicAmaranth: which file should I edit to get rid of a duplicate entry for Xine that your menu-editor has decided to put in my gnome menu ? *g*01:29
Amaranthwha?01:29
metalsand40 meg DL, I'll inform you when I'm done01:29
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thoreauputicAmaranth: well, it might be my mistake, really - but it doesn't want to be deleted01:29
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Amaranththoreauputic: 0.5?01:29
thoreauputicAmaranth: hmm - let me check01:30
AmaranthIs it smeg or menu editor?01:30
Amaranthsmeg is the new name as of 0.501:30
Lickersoo... did someone have the time to help me?01:30
Amaranthold versions sucked at deleting things because of something that appearently isn't covered in the menu spec01:30
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thoreauputicAmaranth: erm.. 0.4.3 it seems01:31
mngcan anyone tell me how I can fore xorg to run in 1360x768 ?? I just get (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1360x768" (no mode of this name)01:31
mngforce*01:31
HrdwrBoBer01:31
HrdwrBoBthere is no mode like that01:31
Amaranththoreauputic: Yeah, you're going to hate me. :) The easiest way to get 0.5 is from hoary backports. I don't know if he made it depend on the gnome-menus and python-xdg in backports too, if not you need to install them. Then you have to lose all your menu changes.01:31
thoreauputicAmaranth: sorry I thought I had a recent one: is there a url for 0.5 you have handy?01:31
HrdwrBoBare you smoking crack?01:32
mngWinblows dont have a problem running in that mode m801:32
HrdwrBoBdo you mean 1024x76801:32
mngnope.. 1360x76801:32
HrdwrBoBthat's the most bizarre resolution ever01:32
HrdwrBoBwhat display do you have01:32
Amaranththoreauputic: Delete ~/.config/menus/applications.menu and everything except for the menu-xdg menu in ~/.local/share/applications/ and ~/.local/share/desktop-directories/01:32
mngits actually a 32" flat panel01:32
thoreauputicAmaranth: I see :) I think I'll just edit the desktop files myself then01:32
Amaranththoreauputic: You had that many changes in the menu?01:33
LickerIs there anyone with some free time to help me? Im installing a web/mail server with a user interface so that my users can login/out through the web.01:33
mirakcould soemone on hoary test this for me ? grep -R 0573 /etc/hotplug/01:33
Amaranththoreauputic: 0.5 lets you make new menus :) (although you can't move things into them, only make new things)01:33
thoreauputicAmaranth: OK I'll try that01:33
HrdwrBoBmng: surely it has a much higher resolution01:33
goomirak: /etc/hotplug/usb/libgphoto2.usermap:libgphoto2           0x0003      0x040a   0x0573    0x0000       0x0000      0x00         0x00            0x00            0x00            0x00               0x00               0x0000000001:34
mngit does, but I have lots of external switch boxes etc which limit me to 1360x76801:34
thoreauputicAmaranth: not many changes, I just lost faith in your creation: but I'll try 0.5 , thanks!01:34
Amaranththoreauputic: This is what happens when you use unstable software. Just like when people had to wipe their pheonix/firebird/firefox profiles for every new version.01:34
Amaranththoreauputic: Ah. 0.5 is loads better01:34
mngis there no way of defining this mode ?01:34
Amaranththoreauputic: I couldn't find an entry I couldn't delete.01:34
mirakgoo: are on breezy ?01:34
HrdwrBoBmng: there is01:34
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thoreauputicAmaranth: it's a nice program by the way - no criticism inteded :)01:34
thoreauputic*intended01:34
HrdwrBoBmng: search for an X modeline creator on google01:35
HrdwrBoBmng: because it's a nonstandard resolution, there'll be no modeline for it built in01:35
HrdwrBoBbut you can easily add one01:35
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goomirak: nope, I'm on Hoary01:35
HrdwrBoByou will have to add it to xorg.conf in /etc/X1101:35
mngoki will try and search for it.. thx01:36
Amaranththoreauputic: Actually, I just realized that new menu creation is more or less worthless. Oh well. :D01:36
goomirak: heh, oops. That file was probably copied over when I moved from Gentoo..01:36
horIs it possible to read the Mails in /var/mail/user with Thunderbird?01:37
metalsanddoes gentoo use gnome?01:37
thoreauputicAmaranth: I have a ~/.config that appears to be specific to xfce4 - is this an issue?01:37
Echyloanyone who uses proftpd and can tell me how I can monitor it?01:37
goometalsand: Gentoo uses whatever you want it to use.01:37
mirakgoo: hor you better install an imap server01:37
Amaranththoreauputic: Your ~/.config/menus/applications.menu has xfce4 things in it?01:37
thoreauputicAmaranth: I would assume so, yes01:38
Amaranththoreauputic: Wait, Smeg works on xfce4?!?01:38
goomirak: why should I install an IMAP server?01:38
Amaranththoreauputic: email your applications.menu to alleykat@gmail.com and i'll email a version that is clean01:39
thoreauputicAmaranth: Smeg?01:39
LickerIs there anyone with some free time to help me? Im installing a web/mail server with a user interface so that my users can login/out through the web.01:39
Amaranththoreauputic: That's new menu editor's new name.01:39
thoreauputicAmaranth: thanks, but no need - I'll hack it around a bit - I might learn something ;-)01:40
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thoreauputicAmaranth: Smeg-editor - Red Dwarf as opposed to RedHAt ? *G*01:40
mockerhehe01:41
Amaranththoreauputic: It's an acronym (Simple Menu Editor for GNOME) but I decided to use it because someone I used to talk to on IRC had the nick Smeggy which was a Red Dwarf reference.01:41
Amaranththoreauputic: I've never actually seen the show.01:42
thoreauputicAmaranth: I used the menu editor in gnome - but the entries show up in xfce01:42
Amaranththoreauputic: They're supposed to, that's the point of the menu spec. :)01:42
thoreauputicAmaranth: ah, you've missed a lot of laughs - I recommend the show :)01:42
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petemcearly seasons, anyway01:43
thoreauputicAmaranth: right01:43
petemcgot a bit crap towards the end01:43
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Amaranththoreauputic: I don't really care for British humor.01:43
petemcAmaranth: prefer dharma and greg or some such?01:43
Amaranthpetemc: haha, no01:43
nopeawhats a good CSS editor on Linux?01:44
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bezibaerchennopea: vim ;-)01:44
Amaranthpetemc: The Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy, etc01:44
Amaranthnopea: You want a WYSIWYG editor?01:44
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KaiL_graphical CSS? uhm?01:45
nopeaAmaranth, well yeah but not that big of a deal - Bluefish is cool but CSS editing is not so hot01:45
thoreauputicAmaranth: broaden your cultural horizons! ( I generally don't care for US humour, but there are exceptions)01:45
FahimCan somebody tell me Where is your linux source build directory taht matches your running kernel?01:45
thoreauputicAmaranth: :)01:45
Fahimin ubuntu01:45
HrdwrBoBthoreauputic: yeah like black books01:45
HrdwrBoBoh wait, it's british01:45
Amaranthnopea: nvu is probably your best bet01:45
HrdwrBoBwhose line is american though, I will give them that01:45
thoreauputicAmaranth: The Simpsons is a clever show01:46
KaiL_Fahim: install linux-headers-`uname -r`01:46
Fator_DeeFast Show is an excellent show :-)01:46
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AmaranthFahim: linux-headers-`uname -r`01:46
KaiL_after that it's in /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r` or (linked) /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build01:46
whiteknightLittle Britain!01:47
Fahimwer do I get linux headers?01:47
KaiL_apt01:47
SeveasFahim, with synaptec :)01:48
Seveasor with apt-get01:48
KaiL_or with kynaptic01:48
KaiL_:)01:48
Seveasor aptitude01:48
Seveasor dselect01:48
Seveasetc..01:48
KaiL_kpackage01:48
Seveasbut kynaptic/kpackage means kde01:48
KaiL_and synaptic GNOME01:49
Seveasthat means you should apt-get --purge remove kde && apt-get install brain first :)01:49
KaiL_good idea, get rid of that stupid metapackage :p01:49
Fahimeys but where do I get the package? where can I download it01:49
Seveasmetapackagea are actually a nice thing01:49
KaiL_you don't need to think about that while using apt-get :)01:50
Seveasit's just kde that i don't like :) (let's not flame about this)01:50
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whiteknightmetalsand, hows the download going?01:50
KaiL_Seveas: but this "kde"-package is the hell, it installes everything, which has even a little bit to do with kde01:50
Seveasthen don't install it01:50
Seveasuse kubuntu-desktop01:50
KaiL_bingo :p01:50
metalsandwhiteknight, i'm making linux-source01:51
KaiL_that installes ~50 python packages :)01:51
nopeaAmaranth, never tried it for CSS - but wasnt impressed for the HTML portion01:51
metalsandand it's taking forever01:51
whiteknightyou are making it?01:51
metalsandYes.01:52
whiteknightmetalsand, so have you retried step 7?01:52
metalsandlol, yes01:52
metalsandIvoks is helping me go with another route01:52
ivoksman...01:52
ivokslook at this:01:52
whiteknightoh okay01:52
ivoks[msg(metalsand)]  then sudo make oldconfig01:53
ivoks[metalsand(~veritas@ip68-231-196-244.oc.oc.cox.net)]  cp: cannot stat `/boot/config-something':01:53
ivoks          No such file or directory01:53
whiteknightwell i'll go and grab some lunch instead01:53
whiteknightmetalsand, good luck01:53
ivokshow do u explain that? :)01:53
metalsandIt's my first week in Linux :(01:53
bezibaerchenanyone using threaded view in evolution?01:54
ivoksme01:54
thoreauputicbezibaerchen: yes, all the time01:54
bezibaerchenivoks: is there a shortcut, to "close" all threads01:54
bezibaercheni dont get the english word atm01:55
bezibaerchen;-)01:55
bezibaerchenknow what i mean?01:55
bezibaerchenthat u only see the first mail of the thread01:56
bezibaerchenas if u click on the arrow01:56
nopeathoreauputic, you like Red Dwarf? Thats great!01:56
thoreauputicI'm hugely lagged here, in case my replies don't make contextual sense01:56
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v3n0m Hey all can someone explain to me how to network my windows computer to my linux box with a cross over cable?01:57
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bezibaerchenthoreauputic: got my problem?01:57
svenlHi.01:59
svenlAnyone has had any success with Mac-On-Linux on ubuntu ? I failed to make it work.01:59
thoreauputicv3n0m: the same way you'd do it anyway: you'll need samba and maybe smbfs installed01:59
leonelwhen  apt-get update  I get this error :01:59
leonelW: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>01:59
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leonelany idea ?01:59
Seveasleonel, wait a (few) hour(s) it'll resole automagically02:00
thoreauputicleonel: known issue, being worked on I hear02:00
Seveasit's a server problem02:00
metalsandHey Seveas, where do you live?02:00
leonelSeveas, thoreauputic  thanks02:00
thoreauputicleonel: the archive servers have a problem I guess02:00
leoneli though so02:00
leonelso do I hold the upgrade ?02:00
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thoreauputicsvenl: did you follow http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MacOnLinuxHowto  ? Worked for me...02:02
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UsefulIdiotHow can I configure an ethernet card (presumably through the command line) so that it has a manual IP address rather than using dhcp?02:04
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UnreA|Lwho use gdesklet ?02:04
MyrttiI do, but I'm not on that computer now02:04
vdmUsefulIdiot, try sudo ifconfig <interface> <ip>02:05
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UsefulIdiotok, thanks02:05
thoreauputicUsefulIdiot: /etc/network/interfaces02:05
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thoreauputicUsefulIdiot: man interfaces02:06
twilighthello there..i've some problems..trying to upgrade my breezy, this is the output:Preparing to replace findutils 4.1.20-5ubuntu1 (using .../findutils_4.1.20-6_i386.deb) ...02:06
twilightDocument `findutils' is not installed, cannot remove.02:06
twilightUnpacking replacement findutils ...02:06
twilightdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/findutils_4.1.20-6_i386.deb (--unpack):02:06
twilight trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/locate', which is also in package slocate02:06
altpis there a dummy package that one can apt-get to install all the normal development tools, gcc, automake, etc ... the normal install seems to lack all the standard development tools.02:06
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thoreauputicaltp: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:07
thoreauputicaltp: it's there, just needs installing02:07
thoreauputicor find it in synaptic02:08
altpinstalling it now. thanks02:08
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thoreauputictwilight: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/findutils_4.1.20-6_i386.deb02:10
thoreauputictwilight: should do it02:10
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UnreA|Lhow install font ?02:13
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UnreA|Lhow install font ?02:15
Juhazdrop to fonts://02:15
UnreA|Li now this02:15
UnreA|Lhown install font with terminal02:16
LickerIf im installing something.. Should I look at the basic linux instruction or the Debian instructions?02:16
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metalsandWhat's the most popular IRC client for Linux?02:16
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HrdwrBoBmetalsand: irssi!02:16
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tiggggrirssi02:16
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guupstairssi <302:16
metalsandWhy is that so great?02:16
Juhazcopy to ~/.fonts directory. or somewhere under /usr/share/fonts if you want to install it system-wide02:16
metalsandapt-get install irssi02:16
tiggggrmetalsand, and maybe x-chat from graphical ones02:17
thoreauputicLicker: debian instructions02:17
bezibaerchenirssi's ownage02:17
thoreauputicLicker: but what is it and how are you trying to install it?02:17
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metalsandWhat's so great about it?02:17
Lickermail/web server02:18
guupstai just like the default window behaviour02:18
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Lickerabout to try to install squirrelmail02:18
UsefulIdiotit's simple, powerful and works well02:18
thoreauputicmetalsand: it's powerful and good on remote ssh etc02:18
thoreauputicmetalsand: but irssi has a firly steep learning curve02:18
yonilis some big mirror server for ubuntu packages down ?02:19
thoreauputic*fairly02:19
metalsandRight, I'll keep using xchat then02:19
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thoreauputicyonil: there are some current problems with authentication of packages02:19
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yonilthoreauputic, ah, good to hear :)02:19
yonili thought i messed my sources file02:20
Lickerwhats the BEST in your opinion email server?02:20
typoI have ubuntu installed. I'm going to try to install windows xp to /dev/hda7. How do I get GRUB back after I do that?02:20
webmindLicker, postfix02:20
Lickeris post better than squirrelmail?02:21
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thoreauputicLicker: "How to start a mail server war " *g*02:21
UsefulIdiotyou could probably install grub manually off a livecd, typo02:21
nosvalguien me puede decir de donde me puedo bajar un prog para programar en c02:21
Licker...........02:21
nosv????02:21
thoreauputicLicker: those do different things02:21
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Lickerhow so..02:21
typoUsefulIdiot: I tried booting the install cd with "root=/dev/hda1" but it panicked02:21
thoreauputicLicker: apt-cache show postfix02:22
Lickerpost fix isnt on mine.... so apt wont work02:22
thoreauputicLicker: as I understand it, squirrel is for webmail02:23
Lickerwell i want to make a email server.....02:23
thoreauputicLicker: well, sudo apt-get install postfix02:23
thoreauputicLicker: but it should be there - postfix is the ubuntu default02:23
Lickerhumm02:24
Lickeryea now it says its there..02:24
thoreauputicLicker: squirrelmail is in the apt repos02:24
yonilthoreauputic, how do you know about the auth problems ? is it posted somewhere ? can i fix it ?02:24
Lickerapt repos?02:24
typoanyone know where I can get a simple boot cd that will boot from disk?02:24
thoreauputicLicker: squirrelmail is in the universe repo02:25
Lickerso postfix would be better though?02:25
thoreauputicyonil: I know because people have been complaining here : and no, you can't fix it - it's on the server02:25
UsefulIdiottypo, you could possibly boot into knoppix and install grub from there02:26
yonilthoreauputic, never mind - i think they fixed it :)02:26
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thoreauputicLicker: it depends on whether you want webmil or just a mail server on your box02:26
thoreauputic*webmail02:27
typoUsefulIdiot: the livecd would probably work, but it's so big...02:27
Lickereh.. whats the difference thore?02:27
thoreauputicLicker: most people would be happy with postfix02:27
UsefulIdiotyeah, it might typo02:27
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thoreauputicLicker: umm... webmail is .. sort of like gmail or yahoo or hotmail02:28
ivoksuh02:28
Lickerwell... what I want.. is a email server. But want my clients to beable to login through a web app to read their mails.02:28
typoUsefulIdiot: I'm going to try the sarge business card cd02:28
thoreauputicLicker: if you don't know the difference, stick with postfix and read the docs for it02:29
ivoksOMG!02:29
ivoksi'm tierd02:29
thoreauputicLicker: to reconfigure it you can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix02:29
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Licker:(02:29
Lickertrying to cram to much02:29
Licker:p02:29
ivokstar xvfj that_file02:29
thoreauputicLicker: if you want that, then yes, use squirrel02:29
LickerI just started learning Linux 3 days ago..  :/02:30
mirakI have this device, http://www.usbgear.com/usa/USB_Monitors_and_KVM.html , how can I guess what usb module it uses ?02:30
thoreauputicLicker: I suggest you find the squirrelmail site and read their docs02:30
morlaahi. can someone please help me setting up xorg ?02:31
Lickerok so. what your saying is that With squirrel I can host a mail server...and it will allow users to login and chek them?02:31
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Licker:p02:32
thoreauputicLicker: I believe so. Type  apt-cache show squirrelmail to read a brief description, then check the website for squirrel02:32
morlaai did a hoarz install on i386, the card is a radeon 700002:32
morlaathe xorgcfg does only show the cursor, but no menu02:32
morlaaX -configure crashes02:33
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Lickerok ty02:33
morlaaafter xorgcfg i can come to the gmd/screen, but i can not log in02:33
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thoreauputicmorlaa: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:34
nanomadis cups remote administration locked?? 'cause i cant login on localhost:63102:34
thoreauputicmorlaa: you aren't trying to log in to gnome as root, are you? hint: don't02:34
Lickerapt cache dont work.. it says package not found02:35
thoreauputicnanomad: it is locked by default in ubuntu, yes02:35
morlaai did that, but i do not remember why it went wrong/ i will try again02:35
goonanomad: normally it's just allowed from localhost, yes.02:35
nanomadthoreauputic, how do I unlock it?02:35
morlaano, i trz to log in as user, and crashes and returns to the login screen, after telling me, that it crashed02:36
nanomadgoo, im trying to login from localhost.02:36
thoreauputicnanomad: I don't actualy know, frankly - I used the gnome gui utility02:36
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queuetueWhen you mount something in gnome (A network server) , where is that actually mounted?  How do I get to it from a shell?02:36
bretzelHi all02:36
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nanomadthoreauputic, why is it locked? it makes no sense to me....02:37
thoreauputicnanomad: not to me either: one of the devs said it was a security issue02:37
nanomadthoreauputic, i need to remote admin my printers.....i will leave ubuntu so....02:38
thoreauputicnanomad: you can probably make it listen on 631 by editing a default for cups02:38
thoreauputicnanomad: maybe /etc/cups/default or something02:38
nanomadit listens on 631, but i cant do administrative task...02:38
thoreauputicnanomad: I'd have to look...02:38
ThomasWinwoodHaving a folder /etc seems like the biggest kludge to me. It's like a folder labelled /stuff02:39
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goonanomad: have you set a root password? Or put you r personal user in the cupsys group?02:39
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thoreauputicThomasWinwood: you haven't been in unix/*nix for long, I take it?02:39
thoreauputicThomasWinwood: it's pretty standard02:39
nanomadgoo, yes, ive  set a root password.02:40
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ivoksomg02:40
ivoksomg02:40
AnguShi there, i have a problem with apt:02:40
AnguSW: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>02:40
nanomadgoo,  and i cant login with root...so..02:40
ThomasWinwoodthoreauputic: It still feels kludgy.02:40
thoreauputicAnguS: server issue, known and being fixed02:40
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AnguSoh02:40
AnguSok, thanks02:40
thoreauputicThomasWinwood: /etc/is one of the most useful directories of all ...02:41
nanomadthoreauputic, goo, ive just discovered that it uses a remroot account....02:41
thoreauputicThomasWinwood: or would you prefer the windows registry? Now *that* is a kludge!02:41
ThomasWinwoodTrue.02:42
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leonelAnguS,  I've asked the same  and here's the answer :  <Seveas> leonel, wait a (few) hour(s) it'll resole automagically02:42
leonel<thoreauputic> leonel: known issue, being worked on I hear    <thoreauputic> leonel: the archive servers have a problem I guess02:42
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AnguSi suspect postfix-gld has some security issues, it got fixed in sarge some days/weeks ago... but hoary still has the old version02:43
AnguSshould i report this? or perhaps its not that vulnerable after all...02:43
nanomadthoreauputic, done!!!02:44
paul_Hi, any help in getting a hp laserjet 100 working with hoary02:44
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AnguShttp://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/postfix-gld/postfix-gld_1.5.2-1/changelog02:44
nanomadthoreauputic, edited /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and commented line regarding autentication in folder /admin....02:45
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twilightthoreauputic thank you very much02:45
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thoreauputicnanomad: :) well done02:45
nanomadthoreauputic, i know...i'm a very determined person....02:45
morlaathanx, i found my mistake- wrong permissions on the X-auth.-file in my old home ;)02:45
nanomadthoreauputic, i will post an howto on ubuntuforums....02:45
metalsandI've been working on getting my PCMCIA wireless NIC configured for 14 hours02:46
metalsandI have to go to school in 202:46
thoreauputictwilight: you're welcome - just remind me what you are thanking me for?02:46
metalsandand haven't slept for 102:46
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thoreauputicnanomad: on the wiki would be good02:46
twilightthoreauputic problem with upgrade and findutils :)02:46
queuetueFFS.,.. the gnome VFS junk isn't actually mounted?  It's some userspace-mount scheme that is only useable by gnome?  How idiotic is that?02:46
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nanomadthoreauputic, i need to work out how auth is done on that page...02:47
thoreauputictwilight: ah yes, the --force-overwrite - I remember now :)02:47
ivoks--force-all is better :)02:47
thoreauputicivoks: a bit dangerous at times, no?02:48
ivoksno :)02:48
Fator_Deedamn, Blobwars is an *awesome* game :-)02:48
thoreauputicivoks: does that option force overwrite without prompting?02:49
ivoksyes, that's why i love it :)02:49
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thoreauputicI see :)02:49
ivoksdon't ask too much questions, destroy all :)02:49
thoreauputichahah @ ivoks02:50
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thoreauputicivoks: were you the kind of kid who took his christmas presents apart? *G*02:50
ivoksok02:50
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AnguSlol02:51
AnguSyeh02:51
AnguSsignatures fixed :D02:51
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jordanaumetalsand, are you still working on that stuff?02:54
metalsandYep02:54
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metalsandSame exact thing02:54
metalsandThe sun is pretty much done rising02:54
jordanauand its not your router right :)02:54
metalsandlooks like I won't be even getting an hour of sleep :(02:54
jordanaumetalsand, you you probably have done smarter things...02:55
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metalsandI have 2 tests today... I'm going to fail both :(02:56
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topylii've been working today02:56
jordanaumetalsand, those are finals no?02:56
metalsandOne is02:56
jordanaui have a final in three hourst02:57
topyliit's not so unusal for me to be at the office but i've been actually hard at work!02:57
metalsandAP Economics, and a Physics quiz02:57
Fator_DeeLottery all the way \o/02:57
jordanauyeah transport 1 (or fluid mechanics) here02:57
metalsandI'm still in high school (Senior year)02:58
metalsandWhat are you majoring in Jord?02:58
jordanaui was chemical engineering, but i am switching to software02:58
jordanaumetalsand, do well on the AP test, college micro econ sucks big time02:58
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metalsandWhere are you located jord?03:01
jordanauauburn, Alabama03:01
jordanauNo i am not attracted to my cousin, but thanks for asking03:02
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metalsandaahhahahahha03:02
metalsandoh did i need that03:02
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squareffi partially downloaded an iso file and it seems to be broken. rsync wants to completely redownload it, which i can't easily accept (i am on a slow connection)... so do you know any application which could fix the partial file and resume downloading? or can rsync do this?03:02
jordanausquareff, you can probably do a md5 checksum to see if it is okay03:03
squareffhow can a md5 checksum help on a partial file?03:04
squareffjordanau: how can a md5 checksum help on a partial file?03:04
jordanauoh its partial03:04
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jordanaui thought it was complete and broken, thats what i get for not reading03:04
thoreauputicsquareff: wget -c <URL> migh work03:04
thoreauputic*might03:05
squareffthank you, thoreauputic... "-c" stands for what?03:05
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Fator_Deecontinue03:06
wdhsquareff, for rtfm :)03:06
jordanaucontinue03:06
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thoreauputicsquareff: it's the flag for resuming a download03:06
squareffwdh: i admit that was a quite lazy question, but i don't even have wget installed on this computer... :)03:07
wdhthat takes about 10 seconds.. even on a slow connection :)03:07
thoreauputicwdh: I read the man, but I confess I only remember about 3 wget flags out of about 70 ;-)03:07
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fabio_85hello people03:08
topylithat's quite enough most days03:08
wdhthoreauputic, sure, but that doesnt keep you from checking one out that you dont know about :)03:08
wdhinformation is not about knowing things.. but about knowing where to find it :)03:08
fabio_85guys, has somebody C knowledge in here?03:08
topyliprolly03:08
squareffwdh: i'm obsessed with keeping my system clean; i wouldn't install anything without making sure i really need it (that's why i wanted to know how relevant that "-c" switch was)03:09
Fator_Deewell, the explanations are always there, sitting happily among others in the man-file03:09
wdhfabio_85, only _very_ basic :)03:09
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wdhsquareff, removing it takes another 5 seconds :P03:09
thoreauputicwdh: indeed, at least I know where to look :)03:09
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fabio_85hello wdh, well I am starting, do u know how good is "The Gnu C Programming tutorial" rev 4.1 freely downloadable03:10
thoreauputicsquareff: a linux install without wget is like a woman without kisses *grin*03:10
squareffwdh: removing? well... maybe i am too much of a newbie for this, but how cleanly are rpms removed in linux?03:10
topylisquareff: the -c option is relevant enough to justify wget's existence on any system :)03:10
squareffthoreauputic: i thought curl was enough. do you think i whould use wget instead of curl?03:10
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wdhsquareff, dont know much about rpm03:10
squarefftopyli: this is just what i didn't know before asking :)03:11
wdhsquareff, but being lazy is not a very bad thing sometimes :P03:11
topylisquareff: debian packages are removed completely if you --purge them03:11
thoreauputicsquareff: use both as appropriate03:11
wdhfabio_85, no idea :)03:11
jordanautopyli, does purge in apt = complete removal in synaptic??03:11
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topyliyes03:11
squarefftopyli: cool! will it also remove every file it produced, plus the config files?03:11
topyliyes03:12
thisfredhas anyone tried to install/run bpmdj on Ubuntu? I keep getting segfaults, but I don't know what I've missed...03:12
squareffthoreauputic: are both really necessary? can't i just use one?03:12
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fabio_85wdh, np, do u know any good guide for beginners?03:12
thoreauputicsquareff: do as you wish...03:12
thoreauputicsquareff: some apps use wget or curl as a backend03:13
wdhfabio_85, nope.. i had some classes in school.. and that was, as i said earlier, _very_ basic :)03:13
wdhfabio_85, try /join #c03:13
squareffthoreauputic: i noticed that, this is why i kept curl03:13
thoreauputicsquareff: both are tiny anyway03:13
fabio_85wdh, eheh np, that would be great, thx03:13
topylifabio_85: it's GNU! it must be perfect! :)03:13
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fabio_85topyli, well if u say so, then I go and read it soon, its only about 280pages though!03:14
thoreauputicsquareff: umm.. how big is your hard drive? And how many videos and large music files do you have? better remove those as well </joke>03:14
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squareffthoreauputic: on this computer i only have 4 GB03:15
squareff:)03:15
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topylifabio_85: on the other hand, it might be a "GNU coding style" type thing for getting your code accepted in GNU stuff03:15
wdhfabio_85, recognise the irony :)03:15
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thoreauputicsquareff: you didn't answer my other questions - start with your pr0n stash ;-)03:16
fabio_85wdh, :) ahah no well I wanted a good hint03:16
jordanauwhat is the minimal install size you can get ubuntu, (no X no extra software)03:16
wdhfabio_85, you should really ask on #c, guess you'll get more valuable input there03:16
squareffthoreauputic: i thought my 4 GB hdd was enough of an answer03:16
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fabio_85wdh, I am already in trying to ask :P03:17
wdhjordanau, dont remember, i read something about it on the wiki the other day.. you could try and search it for something like 'server install'03:17
jordanauthoreauputic, right, it means he downloads high compression low quality stuff03:17
jordanauwdh, thanks03:17
jordanausquareff, just kidding :)03:17
fabio_85wdh, but they are all smart a**es, and maybe not helping a beginner03:17
squareffjordanau: :)03:18
thoreauputicsquareff: my old P200 has only 2gig, and it has curl and wgwt installed :)03:18
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thoreauputic*wget03:18
jordanauthoreauputic, where do ya keep the pr0n stash then?03:18
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wdhfabio_85, sure they will, just be patient.. and read the topic03:18
squareffthoreauputic: yeah... i was going to install wget anyway... so... stop persuading me! :))03:18
topylijordanau: i keep mine on your server ;)03:18
fabio_85wdh, eheh will do :P03:19
jordanautopyli, just out of curiosity, not that i care or anything... but where on the server...?03:19
topylijordanau: in /root/.topyli of course :)03:20
jordanautopyli, thanks03:20
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thoreauputicsquareff: I'm not trying to persuade you - you can use telnet and a punchcard system as far as I'm concerned - OH BTW don't forget to uninstall Emacs if you have it ;-)03:20
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thoreauputicjordanau: no pr0n stash on my old woody box: I have a netork for big files ;-)03:22
thoreauputic*network03:22
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topylithoreauputic: you keep your stuff on jordanau's server too?03:22
jordanauthoreauputic, hehe you said woody03:22
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topyliheh03:22
topylihaven't heard that in a while03:22
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thoreauputictopyli: I think something like /root/boring.financial.stats/.pr0n would be better ;-)03:23
topyliyeah. /root/windows_nt-internals/.pr0n03:24
thoreauputicare you guys dissing my old pentium with its rock-solid Woody install ?03:24
jordanau/home/mom/recipies03:24
jordanauoh wait thats a bad idea03:25
topyliterrible :)03:25
thoreauputichaha03:25
topylithoreauputic: we would never dis a rock solid woody03:25
jordanautopyli, haha you said... oh nevermind...03:25
ivoksjebote!!! odustajem03:25
thoreauputictopyli: indeed not!03:25
ivoksman, some people are born dumb03:26
jordanauivoks, is that in the man pages?03:26
ivoksnope... that's expirience talking :)03:26
topyliman some_people(2)03:26
jordanauivoks, BTW there is one born every minute03:27
jordanaufor people in minutesInHour:  if people % 60 == 0  birth moron03:28
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thoreauputictopyli: peter@prospero:~$ man some_people03:28
thoreauputicNo manual entry for some_people03:28
thoreauputic  << how true03:28
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topyliheh03:29
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metalsandivoks thinks I'm dumb because he can't get my PCMCIA drivers to work :D03:31
rommeris there a open source program like vmware available for win32/linux?03:31
anto9usrommer: qemu03:31
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jordanaumetalsand, do you have a severe inferiority complex?03:31
ivoksi think u are dumb couse u don't see file u just created :)03:31
rommerok thanks03:32
metalsandNope.03:32
jordanaui retract my last statement...03:32
metalsandivoks, I ls'd and used the GUI and it wasn't there.03:32
ivokslol03:32
rommeranto9us: linux only?03:32
topylijordanau: too late!03:32
topyli:)03:32
ivokscouse, this line:03:32
anto9usrommer: no, most platforms and OS are supported03:32
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ivoks /bin/sh: LOG-FILE/include: No such file or directory03:33
metalsandseriously, I just don't care anymore03:33
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metalsandit's been 15:33 minutes03:33
metalsandsince I've been working on/off trying to get it to work03:33
Lickeranyone know of a FREE admins panal kinda like cPanal?03:33
metalsandI've gone through like 6 different people03:33
rommeranto9us: as the master/host computer?03:34
ivoksmetalsand maybe u should start with some linux basics03:34
jordanaumetalsand, go to school and come back with a clear head, it will make a big difference, your mad and frusterated so you cant think properly03:34
anto9usrommer: yes03:34
ivoksmetalsand before u try to compile a driver03:34
jordanauyour/you're03:34
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ivoksjordanau that's true too03:34
ivoksbut now i'm frusterated too :)03:35
ivoksand mad :)03:35
ivoksmetalsand !!03:36
ivoksmetalsand if u are root allready, don't run make with sudo03:36
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ivoksjust type make all03:37
metalsandweird03:37
metalsandI couldn't press enter03:37
apj__Hi, all,03:37
metalsandjordanau, I'm not mad or frusterated03:37
metalsandI'm not even thinking03:37
metalsandim just following commands03:37
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apj__anyone had experinced same as me when mirror ubuntu?03:38
apj__I used debmirror for this task.03:38
apj__mirror only i38603:38
FlyingSquirrel32hey, what's up with nfs on ubuntu? keep getting an error RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused03:38
queuetueFlyingSquirrel32, you need to activate RPC for non-local ips.03:39
anto9usapj__: i386 is the default kernel, you can upgrade it after install03:39
FlyingSquirrel32queuetue: how is that done?03:39
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thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: you need to allow portmap to listen on external interfaces03:39
queuetueFlyingSquirrel32, edit /etc/default/portmap and restart portmapper.03:39
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queuetuehas anyone in here used Solaris in the last ten years or so?  I have not, and am debating whether it's worthwhile to refresh that skill set, or if solaris (software, anyway) can be drop-in-replaced with Linux just about everywhere these days...03:40
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: you might need the same for nfs itself03:40
apj__Yep, my problem is when I debmirror all package repository for i386/breezy03:40
apj__It show up with error.03:40
FlyingSquirrel32okay where would the one for nfs be?03:40
FlyingSquirrel32queuetue, anything else I should know besides the norm?03:41
apj__that it failed with md5sum03:41
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queuetueFlyingSquirrel32, That it's commented out for security purposes, and you are circumventing those security procedures?03:41
apj__like this problem03:42
apj__ dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 failed md5sum check, removing03:42
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orhshey03:42
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: make sure you have a configured firewall/iptables before you run nfs03:42
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orhsi need a fire wall..03:43
orhsany suggestions??03:43
bezibaercheniptables03:43
desplesdaorhs, apt-get install firestarter03:43
desplesda:)03:43
queuetueorhs, gypsum board is good, for relatively cool fires...03:43
FlyingSquirrel32one sec, I'm on a helpdesk call...03:44
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orhslol many different firewalls here03:44
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thoreauputicorhs: firestarter is a good basic firewall, and easy to set up03:44
desplesdafirestarter is a pretty good configuration tool for iptables03:44
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quiethey.. I just installed phpPgAdmin, how do I access it??03:46
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oholikshello03:48
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flamesie with ubuntu wine works for anybody?03:49
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oholiksanyone with an idea as to why my gdm session just wont run either the command in the session file nor my on .xsession?03:49
queuetueflames, For varying degrees of "works", yes. :)03:49
whiteknighthi everyone, does anyone have a G4 iBook with a working microphone?03:50
oholikssorry.. ofcourse i'd find it now..03:50
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orhshmm ok firestarter is installed. now were is it located???03:50
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queuetueorhs, sudo firestarter03:50
FlyingSquirrel32k, I'm back03:51
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queuetuesudh -h firestarter, I think.03:51
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FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, I'm pretty sure I opened up the firewall already, are there any other unique securityies that ubuntu has by default?03:51
desplesdaorhs, firestarter will appear in the system tools menu03:52
elcuhello, i'm getting choppy video in totem.  i've tried 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hdd', but it still seems kind of choppy.03:52
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: basically everything is shut by default03:52
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whiteknightthoreauputic, sorry to bother, but does your microphone work on your ppc?03:52
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: in other words, you have to open services to the big bad world yourself03:52
Crasphello03:52
Craspis there also an "unstable" of ubuntu like with debian?03:53
thoreauputicwhiteknight: I have an iBook G4 - afaik it doesn't have an input jack03:53
flamesqueuetue: sorry, i don't understand "For varying degrees", i don't speak english, just a little :(03:53
AnguSjust breezy... thats like testing/unstable i guess :P03:53
Kartagishi, I have a question regarding noatun. should I take it to #kubuntu?03:53
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CraspKartagis: afaik noatun ahs nothing to do with kde03:53
thoreauputicwhiteknight: I haven't tried to see if there's a built-in mic though03:53
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b0olhi, how to mount smb partitions ? ubuntuusers.de is down sry03:54
whiteknightthoreauputic, don't worry got it working03:54
queuetueflames, Like saying that x is greater than 100 ... for varying values of x.03:54
Craspb0ol: mount //machine/share /mnt/share03:54
b0olsure?03:54
exaltedi've tried for sometime breezy, but i'm sick of everyday updates. How can i return back to the "stable" hoary?03:54
Craspb0ol: 100%03:54
queuetueflames, it all depend son how you define "working"  Personally, I think IE is broken on WIndows, let alone under Wine.03:54
b0olCrasp:03:54
b0oldoesnt work :>03:54
thoreauputicqueuetue: that's true .. for certain values of "true" ;)03:55
queuetuetoresbe, Exactly!03:55
Craspb0ol: do you have samba installed?03:55
b0olnope03:55
b0olthats it!03:55
b0ol:x03:55
Craspb0ol: might want to do that first then :)03:55
queuetuethoreauputic, Exactly!03:55
b0olhow to install?03:55
Craspapt-get install samba03:55
elcuanyone? ... choppy DVD playback.03:55
b0olthats all?03:55
toresbequeuetue: I'm glad you agree03:55
Craspb0ol: yes03:55
spideyWhat is the best NES emulator?03:55
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b0olk thnx :)03:55
toresbespidey: bochs03:55
Craspspidey: snes9x or zsnes03:55
queuetuetoresbe, Sorry about that. - Go back to sleep. :)03:55
b0olits downloadin03:55
toresbequeuetue: I will :P03:55
toresbespidey: heh, just kidding03:56
toresbeCrasp: that's for SNES03:56
Crasptoresbe: oh yeah, sorry :)03:56
toresbespidey: Try them all03:56
toresbespidey: nesticle worked when I tried it03:56
orhsiam new to linux. can someone name some good programs?03:56
tritiumflames, winetools with wine from winehq.com (rather than universe) work well together.  You may want to give that a try.03:56
FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, besides the RPC and iptables, where else whould I look?03:56
anto9usorhs: what do you want to do?03:56
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b0olCrasp:03:57
b0olit still doesnt work03:57
b0ol:<03:57
b0olthe samba partition is on a windows machine03:57
b0olin local network03:57
elcuorhs: beep-media-player and gqview are two of the first apps i install.03:57
Kartagisokay, noatun gives me sound of the mpg very very high, like a distortion or something. I tried all controls to lower the sound but no, it didn't happen. mp3 plays just fine. what more can I do?03:57
desplesdaorhs: install evince, muine and tomboy, they're pretty cool and useful03:58
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: hmm... I think "locate nfs | grep etc " might help - some of the defaults are in obscure places though, and I don't have nfs curently on this box03:58
flamesthanks, queuetue and tritium, ok, i try wintools03:58
tritiumwinetools03:58
flamesok03:58
tritiumflames, remember, you have to use the version of wine from winehq.com, and not the one in universe03:58
queuetueflames, I wouldn't cal what I did "helping", so there is really no need to thank me. :)03:58
FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, ok, I'll try what you said at home this weekend and see how it goes.03:59
tritiumflames, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb03:59
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FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, That's probably why samba server didn't work either03:59
exaltedHow to downgrade to hoary from breezy?03:59
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: I know I had a hard time tracking down some defaults when I set it up on warty03:59
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rj__Security patch is fundamentally broken04:00
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: this is a relatively new install of Hoary and I haven't configured nfs on it yet04:00
rj__hrm04:00
flamestritium: thx04:00
FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, do you know of any good warty specific docs?04:00
FlyingSquirrel32i mean hoary04:00
martinhjexalted: how is breezy these days?04:00
exaltedmartinhj, ?04:00
rj__dangerous04:00
rj__lol04:01
tritiumflames, after addine the repository from winehq.com, and updating, run "sudo aptitude install wine=0.0.20050310-1"04:01
elcui've got two things i'd like to fix: (1) - choppy DVD video and (2) - nautilus freezes when I view the properties of an mp3 file04:01
tritiums/addine/adding04:01
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: I think http://ubuntuguide.org still has a warty link04:01
martinhjexalted: I suppose you have tried it since you want to downgrade from it to hoary04:01
exaltedmartinhj, yeah04:01
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: it's a good one to read for hoary as well04:01
FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, yeah, but it doesn't even touch nfs04:01
rj__I'am running breezy right now, not too many problems, just some small things that are annoying04:01
FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, otherwise, it the best!04:02
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: also of course the wiki on ubuntulinux.org04:02
martinhjexalted: and how is it compared to hoary? many interesting changes yeat?04:02
Kartagisguys, noatun gives me a very crappy sound of the mpg, like a distortion or something. I tried all controls to lower the sound but no, it didn't happen. mp3 plays just fine. what more can I do?04:02
rj__like HAL being complete garbage04:02
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rj__i can't even use my USB pen device04:02
FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, I'll check that one out. Thanks.04:02
martinhjs/yeat/yet04:02
thoreauputicexalted: if you upgraded to breezy, you get to keep the pieces when it breaks04:02
exaltedmartinhj, i'm just sick of ubuntu's virtual package policy like ubuntu-base package; couldn't ever get the idea behind it, i cannot remove most of the packages i want thx to'em.04:03
tritiumexalted, yes you can.04:03
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exaltedtritium, how?04:03
tritiumdebian has meta-packages too.  Just let them uninstall along with whatever you want to remove.04:03
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exaltedtritium, in this way i just loose my version control.04:04
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thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/  is quite useful04:04
b0olhow to mount samba partitions ?04:05
fabioGuys, does the TMP folder empty itself at each reboot?04:05
tritiumexalted, no04:05
exaltedtritium, if you try to remove ubuntu-base it removes gdm with it =)04:05
tritiumfabio, yes04:05
fabiotritium, thanks04:05
tritiumexalted, many people, for example, allow ubuntu-desktop to uninstall when they want to remove something they don't particularly like04:06
exaltedtritium, what about the ubuntu-base?04:07
tritiumexalted, what package do you want to remove?04:07
tritiumubuntu-base is more important04:07
exaltedtritium, that's what i'm saying exactly.04:07
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tritiumwhat package?04:08
thoreauputicexalted: why are you running breezy when you don't know how to check for metapackages ? :/04:08
exaltedtritium, let's see a min.04:08
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exaltedthoreauputic, it's just my biz.04:08
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MahlHey how do I Mount IMG files in ubuntu?04:08
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rommerhas anyone used qemu to run linux on windows, if so could u help me set it up?04:09
exaltedtritium, vim04:09
thoreauputicexalted: read the bit at the bottom of " apt-cache show ubuntu-base "04:09
b0olhow to mount samba partitions ?04:09
Triffid-Hunterb0ol: there's no such thing as a samba partition04:10
thoreauputicexalted: you can do as you wish - my question wasn't unreasonable, however04:10
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Craspdoes ubuntu have an "unstable" like debian does?04:11
b0olTriffid-Hunter:04:11
exaltedCrane, yes it's breezy for now04:11
b0olhow to mount a windows-'freigabe' (german sry)04:11
exaltedCrane, sorry04:11
exaltedCrasp, that was 4 you04:11
tritiumexalted, you can remove vim, if you wish.  As thoreauputic, be aware of the warning (by reading the results from "apt-cache show ubuntu-base")04:11
Craspexalted: ok thanks :)04:11
martinhjCrasp: breezy will become stable in october.. until then it's where the new packages is04:11
thoreauputicCrasp: not as such - breezy is the current development branch04:11
tritiumAs thoreauputic says, that is...04:11
MahlHey how do I Mount IMG files in ubuntu? its of a CD04:12
ivoksman!04:12
Triffid-Hunterb0ol: ah a shared folder? normally mount -t smbfs //server/mount /mnt/point04:12
martinhjCrasp: but I think you will find the ubuntu "unstable" more _unstable_ than debian unstable04:12
ivoksit works :)04:12
exaltedtritium, if i want to remove completely vim, it removes ubuntu-base.04:12
InitMassanyone else using nicotine and having problem with lag?04:12
Triffid-Hunteradd in -o username=blah,password=blah,ip=blah if you need to04:12
tritiumexalted, right, which you can do.  Again, read the warning.04:12
Craspmartinhj: hmm ok, what should i do then if i require package version x to install package y?04:13
MahlI guess nobody knows then04:13
tritiumexalted, there's a difference between remove a meta-package and removing all of its dependencies.  removing ubuntu-base does _not_ remove all its dependencies04:13
exaltedtritium and thoreauputic, thx for you attention and help04:13
thoreauputicexalted: have you read it yet? Please read it if not04:13
tritiumno problem, exalted.  If you decide to upgrade to breezy when it becomes stable in October, you may want to reinstall ubuntu-base before you upgrade.04:14
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exaltedtritium, i know, which is a non-nice think :)04:14
martinhjCrasp: _maybe_ you could pull out the package from the breezy branch04:14
martinhjCrasp: but I'm no apt-expert04:15
martinhjask one:-)04:15
tritiumexalted, you can uninstall it again after you upgrade to breezy.04:15
[Hatred] brb04:15
flameswhich items must install in winetools for ie? just "Internet Explorer 6.0 SP1 English"?04:16
Craspmartinhj: not even sure it's in breezy :)04:16
Craspis there any webinterface perhaps that i can query for packages in breezy?04:16
Craspor any other option04:16
tritiumpackages.ubuntu.com04:16
Craspgreat04:16
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exaltedtritium, just as a suggestion, i think ubuntu (and debian also) has to find a better solution to this issue? don't you think?04:17
martinhjCrane: and www.apt.org I thin04:17
martinhjthink04:17
thoreauputicflames: I doubt that vanilla wine will run IE (I may be wrong)04:17
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b0olCrasp:04:17
martinhjexalted: sorry, but what issue?04:17
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b0olhelp me :x i still cant mount smb04:17
b0ol:<04:17
thoreauputicflames: and I would run away from IE if at all possible anyway04:17
exaltedmartinhj, relation between meta-packages and upgrades.04:17
tritiumflames, step through winetools, do the base setup and windows system software install04:18
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jncerg.... http://pastebin.com/280448  anyone?04:18
jnctrying to figure out what is broken04:18
jnci think it might be the locales04:18
thoreauputicb0ol: sudo apt-get install smbfs04:18
flamesthoreauputic: i need ie just for test a page04:19
b0olk thoreauputic  im on it :)04:19
[ADULT_SWIM] i found the solution as to why you can't install teamspeak in ubuntu ^_^04:19
tritiumjnc, please try to be more specific.  At least tell us if this is hoary or breezy, and give a general description.04:19
b0olflames:  dont use ie:)04:19
Craspmartinhj: hmm that's not really gonna work, it says i have to update libc6 as well, so that will probably update 90% of my system to breezy :)04:19
b0olto test a page use opera04:19
b0olor firefox04:19
Triffid-Hunterhehe yeah the chances of it bein broke in IE are so high you're fairly safe assuming it'll come out mangled04:19
tritiumjnc, for example, what did you paste on pastebin?  What is that from?04:19
thoreauputicflames: OK - I see :)04:19
MahlFine nobody can help me04:19
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flamesi use firefox and opera, but my visitors use ie..04:20
paulproteusb0ol: Or give your users IE7 - see dean.edwards.name/IE7/04:20
tritiumMahl, with what?04:20
martinhjCrasp: ok, I got the same problem.. I just commented out that respository..04:20
Triffid-HunterMahl: try cdemu04:20
paulproteusflames: Check out IE7 please. :)04:20
Triffid-Hunterworks in gentoo04:20
martinhjCrasp: but maybe you need those upgrades?04:20
Craspwell perhaps does anybody else know a good binary leech application for X?04:20
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Craspi wanted to install klibido04:21
jnctritium: oh, my mistake04:21
jnctritium: i gave breezy a spin, then realised that when printing broke i was in a bad situation,  i need printing to work but i don't see any way to downgrade back to hoary04:21
jnctritium: some things work in hoary that are helpful fixes (since i'm  on amd64)  other things broke04:21
jnctritium: to make gnucash work again (unsupported, i know)  i had to reinstall guile and some other bits.  now it works fine though04:21
jnctritium: i figure that CUPS may be similar.  one of the back-end filters is dying due to locale issues i guess04:21
jnci don't know enough about perl to make a diagnosis04:21
Triffid-Hunterklibido is buggy as hell04:21
Triffid-Hunterbut i havent found anything better yet04:21
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jnctritium: i meant, some things in breezy are fixed that are not in hoary which are nice.  the #ubuntu-dev folks tell me i'm not supposed to talk unless i have a patch04:22
CraspTriffid-Hunter: how did you install it?04:22
Triffid-Hunteri havent tried running forte agent under wine yet tho04:22
jncwhich is tough, since i'm just a mid-level dev and i don't know where the trouble is exactly04:22
tritiumjnc, for general support, you should come here, yes04:22
Triffid-HunterCrasp: emerge klibido, but i'm not using ubuntu so that won't help you04:22
b0olwell04:22
CraspTriffid-Hunter: lol, no not at all ;)04:22
b0olwhy is the transferspeed from sharedfolder on win machine to linux machine so slow? (about 36 k)04:22
b0ol!?04:22
martinhjCrane: what does klibido do?04:23
martinhjsorry, crasp04:23
Triffid-Hunterif its not in your apt tree, you'll need to grab source, and install from there.. you'll have to install the blah-dev packages for anything the compile says is missing04:23
jnctritium: oh.   i'm looking to come up with a fix myself.  i was asking for a helpful pointer in the right direction04:23
tritiumjnc, there are ways to downgrade04:23
Triffid-Huntermartinhj: it downloads binaries from newsgroups04:23
thoreauputicb0ol: because you haven't configured samba properly?04:23
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thoreauputicb0ol: or possibly you haven't configured the win box properly04:24
b0ol:X04:24
jnctritium: if i can fix this in breezy, i'm not sure i'd want to downgrade.  i'm a bit upset that it's not what i'm used to -   being a Gentoo dev i am expecting to be able to help out and make fixes and ask for helpful pointers on what's broken and what to do about it04:24
jnc[/rant] 04:24
b0olwhere is there something to configure @ winbox ? and what to configure @ samba?04:24
Triffid-Hunteryeah go grab speedguide.net's tcpoptimizer for your win box an fix its recieve window04:24
b0ol@ thoreauputic04:25
b0ol:x04:25
Triffid-Hunterlol inc04:25
jnctritium: so um, who knows about the backend filters for cups?  i was thinking i might want to re-install those packages and see if it fixes the locale issue04:25
tritiumjnc, upset about what?04:25
rommerhas anyone used qemu on windows?04:25
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thoreauputicb0ol: read http://ubuntuguide.org and search the wiki for samba04:26
tritiumjnc, check bugzilla to look for bugs in a particular package04:26
jnctritium: oh... when something's broke i'd rather make it work than downgrade and stick my head in the sand ;)04:26
jnctritium: i'm not entirely sure this one is a bug04:26
thoreauputicb0ol: I don't use windows any more and my network is nfs04:26
jnci'm asking if you guys know where the locale bits are kept for perl04:26
MahlTriffid-Hunter, it seems that cdemu doesnt support .img files04:26
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jncand if that's what the fatal part is04:26
jnchttp://pastebin.com/28044804:26
tritiumjnc, but you can look at the bug activity, and verify04:26
Triffid-Hunterhrm dam :/04:26
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AnthroI am trying to boot my dual G4 with the 5.04 PPC LiveCD. It seems to do everything it should, up to a point. I am now staring at a screen with a non-flashing underscore in the upper left corner and nothing else.04:27
jnctritium: yeah.  i'd like to know where the error is before i go filing a report on it04:27
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AnthroI suspect that the problem has to do with having two video cards. I also have Debian installed on the machine (it's broken at the moment, which is why I'm booting with a liveCD), and both it and the liveCD show bootloader output on the primary screen, then everything further on the secondary screen.04:29
thoreauputicveritas_: failure04:29
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veritas_Heh04:29
veritas_guess what04:29
veritas_My drivers are configured04:29
thoreauputic:)04:29
veritas_I'm still trying to get it working, but...04:29
AnthroIs there some option I should give the bootloader to make it work properly?04:29
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BiMaNshello guys04:30
FlyingSquirrel32b0ol: did you do the copy in the gui or from the shell terminal?04:30
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tritiumjnc, the locales don't appear to be setup correctly, but it fell back to "C", so that's not the main problem, apparently.04:30
thomas__im having problems with ubunto and the Sound, i dont get any, what do i have to do, SB audigy, and the latest release of ubuntu???04:30
Lickerhow do i reset my ROOT password04:31
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pupeDefinitivamente vuelvo a Gnome04:31
tritiumLicker, you're encouraged to use sudo04:31
pupekde me canso, demasiados bugs.. mas que windows04:31
MahlSo if anybody else can help me...How do I mount an .IMG (cd) file within linux?04:31
thoreauputicLicker: sudo passwd root  (if you insist)04:31
BiMaNswhen i done downloading ubunbtu ,, a extracted it to a cd and then i try to boot it but its doesn't works ,, so ?04:31
tritiumMahl, is it an iso9660 image?04:31
tritiumLicker, please read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:32
AnthroMahl: mount -o loop,ro -t iso9660 imagefile mountpoint04:32
Mahltried mounting it with the -t iso9660 ...didnt work04:32
Lickerthoreauputic: im trying to let someone ssh me but they got a error.. fatal error: updatedb: You are not authorized to create a default slocate database!04:32
AnthroMahl: What error did it give?04:32
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thoreauputicMahl: you need to do sudo modprobe loop first04:33
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jnctritium: okie.  i'm gonna go mess with gs and see if i can't make it behave, else i will file a bug report.  thanks!04:33
thoreauputicLicker: umm - whay are they running updatedb ?04:33
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Mahlstill dont work04:33
AnthroMahl: What error are you getting?04:33
thoreauputic*why04:33
Lickerthoreauputic: he is trying to login to install some things on my server.04:33
Mahlmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2,04:33
Mahletc etc04:33
tritiumjnc, your printer wasn't found at one point.  Did you see the "No such device" error?  I'd try some simple test pages before trying postscript04:34
AnthroMahl: Ah, sounds like it isn't an ISO file. What does file tell you about the .IMG file?04:34
thoreauputicLicker: root login is dsabled by default, and I assume he has no sudo rights?04:34
thoreauputic*disabled04:34
Lickernope04:34
Lickerhow do I turn it back on04:34
tritiumLicker, I gave you a URL that tells you how04:34
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Mahlits an img of a cd...thats all I know04:35
Mahlim not...that good...im not a noob...im a semi noob :D04:35
Lickerok04:35
jnctritium: *achem* the simple test page was    `echo "hello world" | lp`  ;)04:35
AnthroMahl: Run /bin/file on it (or maybe it's /usr/bin/file)04:35
Mahlit says its a data file04:35
tritiumjnc, okay ;)  Sorry, I've not seen this problem until today.04:35
AnthroMahl: Hrm. Where did this image come from?04:36
jnctritium: that is also helpful to know04:36
tritiumjnc, sorry I can't be more helpful.04:36
jncsurely someone on amd64 is using breezy, if you haven't heard yet about it maybe there is no bug, only a trouble in the order of package installation04:36
MahlFriend....He made some stuff and had it on cd...when he makes an image of it he always goes .img...04:36
Mahlits my fault really...when i was using windows I liked img best...then he catched on04:36
Triffid-Hunterlol04:37
bezibaerchen.img is nero iirc04:37
Triffid-Hunteryeah04:37
tritiumjnc, usually the order doesn't matter.  it's not like gentoo, where you're building from source, and you have to satisfy certain build-depends before building04:37
Triffid-Hunteryou want iso :P04:37
jnc.nrg was nero i thought04:37
Triffid-Hunterjnc: both are afaik04:37
thoreauputicMahl: you might have to convert it to something sane like .iso04:37
Mahlyep yep thoreauputic04:37
Triffid-Hunteri think clonecd can work out img but don't quote me on it04:37
jnctritium: after building a few dpkgs you realize that the order is important whether you like it or not04:37
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MahlI could always burn it but im in the lack of cd's...04:38
rommerhas anyone used qemu on windows?04:38
tritiumjnc, that's for building.  not true for installing binary packages, in general04:38
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Mahlso how do I convert it to ISO?04:39
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jncMahl: i saw a perl script floating around that could chunk an NRG into an ISO in most cases04:39
anto9usrommer: you're a bit off topic, try asking in #qemu04:39
thoreauputicMahl: mkisofs, or possibly use the nautilus burner facility to make an iso image04:39
ThomasWinwoodMahl: http://gregory.kokanosky.free.fr/v4/linux/nrg2iso.en.html04:40
jncMahl: other than that casual mention of "hey i've seen someone else do it, once" ... not much help here sorry04:40
Mahlbut ThomasWinwood ...thats for nrg files..04:40
ThomasWinwood"jnc: Mahl: i saw a perl script floating around that could chunk an NRG into an ISO in most cases"04:40
AnthroSo does anyone know why the livecd would fail to bring anything up after going through what appears to be a normal boot? Is there an option one can give at the boot prompt to have it boot text-only instead of trying to bring up X?04:41
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Mahlgah mkisofs got like 440 options..04:41
AnthroMahl: mkisofs isn't going to help you convert a .img file to a .iso file. It is for creating a .iso file from a directory hierarchy.04:42
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Mahloh04:43
thomas__im having problems with ubunto and the Sound, i dont get any, what do i have to do to get it workin tried alsa, OSS , ESD in settings. i have SB audigy, and the latest release of ubuntu???04:43
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BiMaNswhen i done downloading ubunbtu ,, i extracted it to a cd and then i try to boot it but its doesn't works ,, so whats the problem guys?04:44
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thomas__BiMaNs: wrong release maybe?04:45
Triffid-HunterBiMaNs: normally pebcak error. give us more info04:45
thoreauputicBiMaNs: if you burned it in Windows, you need to burn it raw as an ISO or you  just get a file04:45
SiRrUsBiMaNs you sure you burnt the iso correctly04:45
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petrovskiMahl: I usually just rename my .img to .iso. Haven't had any problems with that so far.04:46
Mahli can run a ....what?04:46
Mahllet me try...04:47
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Mahlnope dont work04:47
Mahlim just gonna load up a cd burner app thru wine04:47
petrovskihowever I'm pretty sure that you should be able to mount it no matter what the extension is.04:47
lesshastewhat does k3b do for you?04:47
lesshasteyou can mount it just fine with -loop04:48
Mahlcan k3b burn .img files?04:48
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lesshasteI believe so.. have a look04:48
BiMaNsSiRrUs yea , i use nero04:48
BiMaNsSiRrUs i extrected it first and then i burn it to the cd04:48
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[ben] do i have to configure alsa or esd (<- how?) to get rid of my onboard soundcard an to use my pci-supercard?04:48
SiRrUsBiMaNs does the cd boot04:49
lesshasteMahl, do you want to mount the file or burn a cd?04:49
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BiMaNsSiRrUs nope04:49
SiRrUsBiMaNs then i suspect nero didnt burn the iso correctly04:49
MahlId like to mount it04:50
Mahlbut If I have to ill burn it04:50
lesshastejust mount it with loopback.. what is the problem?04:50
BiMaNsSiRrUs let me try again04:50
BiMaNsSiRrUs thanks anyway04:50
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lesshasteMahl, mount file.img -t iso9660 -o loop,ro /mnt04:51
Naliothhowdy04:51
Mahlit doesnt work...04:51
Mahltried it already...04:51
lesshasteMahl, error message?04:51
Mahlmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop2,04:51
Mahletc04:51
lesshasteMahl, exactly as I showed you?04:51
raydogghow do you tell cron not to send emails ?04:52
lesshasteMahl, what type of file is it? I mean, where is it frmo?04:52
jnctritium: bwahahaha.   i made it print an error04:52
lesshasteraydogg, its in the man page04:52
Mahlits from a friend.....04:52
Mahlits a data file04:52
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lesshasteMahl, you mean it isn't a cd image at all?04:52
tritiumjnc, did it give you some insight into the problem?04:52
lesshasteMahl, what type of data file?04:52
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Mahlit is a cd image04:53
tritiumjnc, there are also mailing lists and forums that you can use to see if others are having the same problem, and if a fix is known.04:53
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raydoggthanks lesshaste04:53
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lesshasteraydogg, np "If MAILTO is defined but empty  (MAILTO=""),  no04:54
lesshaste       mail will be sent. "04:54
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jncthe irony. .   gah04:54
lesshasteMahl, the fact you can't mount it is suspicious.. try k3b and tell us what happens04:54
Mahland k3b cant burn it...04:54
jnctritium: it's a bug i already fixed.04:54
jnctritium: i don't know why it's back in breezy04:54
Mahlit doesnt support it04:55
raydoggright, i found that.04:55
jnctritium: actually, the gs-gpl package is fubar'd for amd64/breezy04:55
tritiumjnc, I see04:55
lesshasteMahl, I am thinking it is not a cd image at all04:55
lesshastejnc, you ok?04:55
jnctritium: gs-esp works in the same broken fashion it always has, which i was pretty sure we'd fixed in hoary04:55
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lesshasteMahl, what does "file cd.img" tell you?04:56
tritiumjnc, glad you found it04:56
[ben] captive-ntfs or similar for ubuntu ?04:56
lesshaste[ben] , don't touch it04:56
lesshaste[ben] , read only is much better04:56
jnctritium: thanks.   your diagnosing the perl bits helped a lot04:56
tritiumnah, but thanks ;)04:56
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Mahlit tells me its a data file04:58
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NaliothMahl at a terminal try "file blah.img"04:59
Naliothyou folks type too fast04:59
Mahlyeah04:59
Mahlwell im gonna try to install WinISO thru wine see if that works04:59
Mahlif that works I know I can convert it to bin or Iso05:00
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Mahlit works :)05:01
[ben] how to tell esd (e-sound) to use a specific soundcard?05:02
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thomas__im having problems with ubunto and the Sound, i dont get any, what do i have to do to get it workin tried alsa, OSS , ESD in settings. i have SB audigy, and the latest release of ubuntu???05:05
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Kamping_in_dozethomas_ is it pci?05:05
tritiumthomas__, make sure it's not something simple (like mute).  Can you run alsamixer and check?05:05
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babaliciousegood morning y'all05:06
Kamping_in_dozehi05:06
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babaliciouseany suggestions for a free antivirus program with gui for my ubuntu box05:06
thomas__Kamping_in_doze: yes05:06
tritiumjnc, lots of the devs just got back from UdU, so it's been kind of quiet in there for a while05:06
Naliothbabaliciouse, klamav?05:06
babaliciouseNalioth: yeah??? has it a gui, and easy to install?05:07
thomas__Kamping_in_doze: you mean volume control05:07
Naliothbabaliciouse, i use the command line clamav05:07
Naliothbabaliciouse, but klamav is a frontend for clamav05:07
thomas__Kamping_in_doze: what i can see it's not muted05:08
Naliothbabaliciouse, at the clamav website there are links to more frontends05:08
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babaliciouseokie then - i'm gonna google for it05:08
babaliciousety Nalioth05:08
thomas__must i add something to the list pcm etc...05:08
thoreauputicbabaliciouse: antivirus for linux doesn't normally need GUI because it's only used on servers that have to clean up windows messes05:08
jordanaubabaliciouse, where are ya from?05:08
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babaliciouseso a command line like clamav will do jsut fine then?05:09
babaliciousejordanau: canada05:09
anto9usbabaliciouse: clamav is in the ubuntu repositories05:09
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Kamping_in_dozebabalichous. clamav, antivr, bitdefender iirc. all commandline i think05:09
babaliciousehello Angel ;)05:09
FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, I've got my laptop I and wanted to try the nfs thing.05:09
anto9ushey tekchick ;)05:09
FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, my /etc/default/portmap says ARGS="-i 127.0.0.1"05:10
jordanaubabaliciouse, strange, we southern americans say y'all, and you canadians say y'all, but northern americans don't05:10
babaliciouseone of my users said some freaky message about killet or something popped on his screen yesterday - so i wanted to run a scan05:10
FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, what should I change it to? the man only said how to set to loopback as it already is.05:10
babaliciousejordanau: i'v travelled the world, you pick up all sorts when you do that05:11
anto9usbabaliciouse: clamav is the kit I use05:11
jordanaubabaliciouse, well take me with you next time, i want to travel the world05:11
babaliciousei'm gonna give it a try angel, ty05:11
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: just put a # in front of the line05:11
babaliciouselol@jordanau - not to many tekchic's on the channel eh!!!05:11
Naliothbabaliciouse, clamav is fully open source05:12
FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, could I do a 10.0.0.0\255.255.255.0 ?05:12
babaliciouseNalioth: thats what i'm looking for so TY05:12
thomas__nice with no sound :-)05:12
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thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: afaik, not necessary05:12
babaliciouseoff i got to clamav, see y'all later, eh! ;)05:13
jordanaui thought it wasnt important to have a virus scanner unless you were working with windows computers05:13
jordanaulike trading files with them or email stuff05:13
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: just make sure that default is disabled: protect portmap etc in /etc/host.allow and /etc/hosts.deny05:13
FlyingSquirrel32thoreauputic, wouldn't it be more secure; what's afaik?05:13
jordanauFlyingSquirrel32, as far as i know05:13
FlyingSquirrel32ok.05:13
FlyingSquirrel32Thanks05:13
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jordanauFlyingSquirrel32, not about the security thing, the acronym that is05:14
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FlyingSquirrel32and to restart the portmap?05:14
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thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: see http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/NFS-HOWTO/  for useful info05:14
FlyingSquirrel32cool.05:14
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thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: afaik is as far as I know05:15
thoreauputicFlyingSquirrel32: sudo /etc/init.d/portmap restart05:15
matze_has somebody experience with dell cpi ubuntu and gnome ?05:15
thoreauputicfrom memory05:15
cmg_i had a Warty system running fine.. I just rebuilt it with Hoary and now I can only select 640x480 resolution.. any idea what I can do?05:16
anto9usmatze_: I'm running a dell inspiron 910005:16
rudi-rudibye05:16
neighborleeI was trying to get gimp printing to work ( printing works everywyhere else but there) so I installed a newer .deb of gimp...next time I started synaptic I had 2 packages causing problems it said..so I did the fix broken pckages....when I hit 'apply' it wanted t remove like a hundred packages and im unable to figure out how to resolve this..any ideas ???05:17
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Kamping_in_dozecmg_ reconfigure x05:17
Dreezardhi everyone05:17
matze_anto9us: fine, my problem is, that gnome hangs for minutest after logon, any idea ?05:17
cmg_kamp.. whats the command?05:17
tritiumneighborlee, where did you get the .debs from?05:17
cmg_to configure x05:17
neighborleetritium, gimps website05:17
tritiumcmg_, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:17
Kamping_in_dozecmg_ in a terminal. : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:17
Kamping_in_dozehm05:17
neighborleetritium, and from there I guess whomever packaged it for gimp05:17
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cmg_thanks trit05:17
cmg_thanks kamp05:18
tritiumneighborlee, that's why you're not supposed to mix debs from different places ;)05:18
AnguSMatrix_Soul i have a similar problem05:18
lacteushi !05:18
anto9usmatze_: could be lots of reasons05:18
AnguSsince i installed tvtime the pc just freezes completelly05:18
AnguSafter logon05:18
Kamping_in_dozecmg_ then you type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:18
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AnguSi still was unable to fix it :(05:18
DreezardCan someone tell me how and where to add a default gateway?05:18
neighborleetritium, yeah well I was semi desperate to get gimp printing to work..you would think apt-get would not be so terribly FUSSY but hey...thast what we got isn't it LOL05:18
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thomas__is there a trick to get audigy soundcard to work in ubuntu??05:19
neighborleetritium, imNsho I think apt-get is too damn picky about how it works..it should be replaced at once with something more efficient05:19
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neighborleetritium, <wink>05:19
jnctritium: udev silliness.05:19
neighborleetritium, thats frustation talking of course..but felt damn good05:19
jnctritium: thanks again05:19
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tritiumneighborlee, one sec...05:19
thoreauputicneighborlee: I'm sure the devs would be happy to look at your apt rewrite ;-)05:19
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neighborleethoreauputic, LOL05:19
tritiumjnc, cool - got it working?05:19
neighborleethoreauputic, im sure they would05:19
matze_anto9us: *s* thats why I ask for the same hardware05:19
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petrovskiDreezard: System -> Administration -> Networking05:20
j2dopehi im having problems with bluetooth... i can't see any bluetooth tools in my menu (despite installing them), and on boot, it says there's problems loading it?05:20
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neighborleetritium, ok ,,thanks for your efforts05:20
j2dopebluetooth worked fine for me on MDK05:20
matze_hallo busfahrer05:20
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neighborleetritium, if need be I can paste-bin the output05:20
busfahrerHi.05:20
zygahow to disable password prompt after closing laptop lid?05:20
Dreezard@petrovski this just wont work05:21
DreezardI have to add it manualy05:21
zygascreensaver settings indicate that no prompt should appear05:21
tritiumneighborlee, the best think to do is to downgrade the gimp packages back to the hoary versions05:21
matze_busfahrer: are ya driving at the moment ?05:21
busfahrermatze_: What do you think?05:21
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matze_busfahrer: I just thought where your name comes from :)05:22
neighborleetritium, yeah thats what I was thinking exactly..I also n eed to downgrade libfontconfig1 back to its original hoary..05:22
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neighborleetritium, ie: I replaced only a few packages to get the new gimp installed.I thought it would be safe given Iwas installing unstable gimp and since ubuntuis based on unstable I figured well....05:23
busfahrermatze_: I have no idea, heh.05:23
neighborleetritium, grabbing hoary cd05:23
zookoGreetings, people of #ubuntu!  Is there a kernel 2.6.11 source newer/better than the one in hoary universe?05:23
petrovskiDreezard: should have asked you when you installed or have been provided through DHCP05:24
tritiumzooko, no, in fact, it's not supported.  Don't use it05:24
zookoI upgraded from 2.6.10 (from hoary main) to 2.6.11 (from hoary universe) and found that my new SATA drive broke, and noticed05:24
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zookothat 2.6.11 from universe has sata_via 1.0 where 2.6.10 from main has sata_via 1.1...05:24
tritiumzooko, 2.6.11 has no linux-restricted-modules, and is not supported05:24
thoreauputiczooko: don't even think about using 2.6.11 - it's broken05:25
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zooko(Although note that it works well enough for me to be having this conversation with you while running it.)05:25
zookoHm.05:25
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Dreezard@petrovski DHCP is running at my router but i want to use a static ip. So i allways have to do "route add default gateway *.*.*.*" at startup05:25
MatzeBIs it possible to install ubuntu from a hard drive?05:26
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MatzeB(well manual says it is, but it is mentioning files that don't exist and I can't get it to detect the cdrom data on my harddrive)05:26
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Dreezard@petrovski is there a way to automatize that?05:27
paulproteusDreezard: Yes.05:28
Dreezardhow?05:28
paulproteusDreezard: The easiest way is through the System Preferences - > Networking05:28
paulproteusSet a manual static IP address.05:28
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paulproteusThat will make the necessary changes to /etc/network/interfaces .05:28
DreezardIt doesnt work05:28
paulproteusDreezard: What kind of "doesn't work"?05:29
Dreezardbut can I just add a gateway line in the interfaces?05:29
tritiumDreezard, it does work.  You should probably "man interfaces"05:29
paulproteusHave you (1) disabled DHCP (2) set a static IP (3) set a default route?05:29
zookoHuh-oh.. applying the reiser4 patch for 2.6.11 to Ubuntu's 2.6.10 yields two rejects...05:29
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paulproteusDreezard: man interfaces will tell you about the "gateway" option.05:29
tritiumzooko, you're using linux-source-2.6.10 ?05:29
paulproteusmikl: Cool IP address.05:30
miklpaulproteus: what's cool about it?05:30
Dreezardwell I set everything up right in kcontrol but it wont add the gateway05:30
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paulproteusIt has "192.168" in it, which looks bizarre, since IPs that begin with "192.168" are private.05:31
DreezardI've heared about others with the same Kubuntu problem05:31
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paulproteusDreezard: Even though I use Kubuntu, I don't trust its network configuration programs.05:31
miklpaulproteus: oh, right :)05:31
paulproteusThe GNOME ones are known to work; you can even run them in Kubuntu if you want.05:32
petrovskiDreezard: using Gnome here so I'm not familiar with KControl. /etc/network/interfaces should do the trick though05:32
tritiumDreezard, check your /etc/network/interfaces.  "man interfaces" to see how it's supposed to be setup05:32
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zookotritium: yes05:32
paulproteustritium++05:32
DreezardI'll do, thx so far05:32
zookoEh, one of those rejects doesn't look so important and the other one is easy to fix...05:32
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aehoHow I can use my fat32 partition?05:35
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zookonope, the result doesn't compile.05:35
drcodemy io meaga jaz got I/O error all the time05:36
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drcodeI think it broken05:36
drcodebtw: Nvidia Geforce 2 can support redaring ?05:36
stazzcan *what* ?05:36
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eliteforcehi05:37
zookoI know, I'll get 2.6.11.8.tar.bz2, apply reiser4 patch, then apply linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.11...05:37
drcodewhen I do glxinfo there is option direct somthing05:37
drcodeits in NO now05:37
tritiumaeho, see www.ubuntuguide.org05:37
drcodeIt metter if I connect from remote or not?05:37
eliteforcei've got a little question to this howto: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/KernelByHandHowto ... whats with initrd, isn't it necessary?05:37
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aehook05:37
Lickerif im extracting a file. How do i log in as ROOT to do it?05:38
missany mirror located in switzerland to download the iso image ???05:38
missim in a rush05:38
eliteforceLicker: try sudo05:38
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eliteforceLicker: or sudo -s05:38
Lickerwhat would the command be?05:38
eliteforceLicker: man sudo :P05:38
tritiumLicker, I already gave you the URL!05:38
tritiumhttp://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo05:38
tritium(again)05:38
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missmirror.switch.ch/mirror/ubuntu05:39
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Lickeri didnt know if it was the same to login through ssh etc trit05:39
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Naliothbrb05:40
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Lickeryea but how do i extract files through sudo?05:40
nevyn?05:40
paulproteusLicker: How do you extract files without sudo?05:41
zookoActually I think I'll skip the ubuntu patches first time around...05:41
thoreauputicLicker: sudo <your command here>05:41
rifficchat05:41
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Lickerok its like... im trying to extrat a file.. but it keeps saying i dont have permissions to do it.05:42
_me_can anyone tell me if ubuntu and or kubuntu has support for external drives via Usb?05:42
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bob2_me_: er, of course05:43
_me_cool05:43
eliteforceahm what does 'Preempt The Big Kernel Lock (PREEMPT_BKL) [Y/n/?]  (NEW)  ' mean?05:44
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zookoeliteforce: does hitting '?' help?05:44
eliteforceahh ;) good idea05:45
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nate_hey, whats a good wireless access-point locator in ubuntu?05:45
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cyphasehow do you forward a port over ssh? so if someone requests port 80 on one computer, it'll send it to port 80 on another computer through ssh05:46
tritiumcyphase, man ssh, look for the -L switch05:46
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cyphasethanx tritium05:46
cyphasei was to lazy to look myself05:46
cyphaselol05:46
nate_anyone?05:47
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petemcnate_: netapplet05:47
mojocyphase: go to www.thebroken.com and watch their video... they use airsnort i think on knoppix std.  the video is fun... like a hacker's underground tv show.05:47
cyphaselol05:48
tritiumcyphase, e.g. ssh -L 80:192.168.1.100:80 -N -T user@router.ip.address, where the router has an IP address from my ISP, and 192.168.1.100 is the IP of the server05:48
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tritium(w.r.t the router)05:48
cyphasethanx tritium05:48
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cyphase;)05:48
tritiumif you don't have a router, or if the computer has it's own IP, then you can simplify the above05:48
cyphaseyea05:49
Naliothcyphase, google "ssh tunneling"05:49
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alexandrehello05:49
alexandrei'm looking for help on ubuntu05:49
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Fator_Deeyou've come to the right place05:50
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alexandre:)05:50
alexandremany questions05:50
alexandrefisrt: how do i configure a multi-head system05:50
Triffid-Hunterthat's more a xorg question..05:50
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Triffid-Huntershould be easy to find a tute on google05:51
mjralexandre, google for xinerama-howto, follow instructions05:51
mcquaidya you might have better luck in #xorg or if your card is nvidia #nvidia05:51
Triffid-Hunterah yeah xinerama thats the one05:51
mcquaidi tried awhile back to get my tv out working properly couldn't get it right05:51
alexandrethe point is that i do't know the monitor property (hsync-vsync)05:51
tritiumalexandre, also, read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz05:51
mcquaidonly one card can have vsync and only one card can have access to xv, damn annoying05:51
mojoNE1 know where there's a gDesklet's support channel?  Can't find one on freenode...05:51
alexandreis there a global monitor database available?05:52
mcquaidi believe there is a gdesklets chan on gimpnet05:52
mojomcquaid: thanks.. will seek05:52
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Triffid-Hunteralexandre: you can calculate the hsync/vsync from the maximum resolution/refresh05:52
alexandremy second question is about wifi-card05:52
alexandremine is based on a ralink2500 chipset05:53
cyphasetritium, i needed -R, not -L05:53
Triffid-Huntervsync = max refresh, hsync = refresh * vert.resolution05:53
cyphasebut i got it now05:53
cyphasethanx05:53
alexandrehow can i make it works properly?05:53
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Triffid-Hunteralexandre: do you have kernel support for it?05:54
tritiumcyphase, oh, you're forwarding a remote port to a local machine?05:54
metalsand`schoolHow can I reset PCMCIA servies?05:54
cyphasetritium, yea05:54
tritiumcyphase, sorry, didn't catch that bit05:54
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cyphasetritium, i didn't say that. my mistake05:54
alexandreTriffid-Hunter, it seems not, because dmesg do not indicate anything05:54
alexandreand a lsmod not05:54
mirakhi05:55
cyphasetritium, but thanx. i just needed to switch the -L for -R05:55
anto9usalexandre: it's supported via ndiswrapper05:55
mirakdoes anyone needed the module usbvision ?05:55
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mirakI can't compile it and it's not in ubuntu nor debian05:55
mirakthis is a module for usb video devices05:55
cmg_I did a new Hoary install and it started in 640x480.. on advice from in here I reconfigured X (which worked great even after reboot).  I just rebooted again and I am back to 640x480 and can not select other resolutions)05:55
Triffid-Hunteryou'll need the source for your current kernel as well as glibc and gcc to compile it05:55
alexandreanto9us, can u tell me more plz?05:56
metalsandHow can I reset PCMCIA servies?05:56
cmg_any idea why my X configuration won't stay setup?05:56
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mcquaidi never knew about nautilus-python thingie, i really like that having xterm option in right click05:56
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[ben] how do i set the default output device in alsa ( to hw:1,0 ?)05:57
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tritiumcmg_, are you saying the file somehow changed?05:57
andreas_Hi. I need a program to make DVD covers.05:57
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tritiumandreas_, glabels05:58
anto9usalexandre: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto also see http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Installation05:58
sigandreas_: gLabels05:58
andreas_glabels cannot make covers for the boxws used here i Denmark05:58
cmg_trit.. not sure.. i just ran the reconfigure.. it worked great.. then i rebooted again and now I can only choose 640x48005:58
tritiumuse a custom size label05:58
Triffid-Hunterandreas_: gimp05:58
Triffid-Hunter;)05:58
andreas_triffid: Damn hard to make them look nice though05:59
tritiumandreas_, glabels supports custom sizes05:59
Triffid-Hunteroh?05:59
Triffid-Hunterwhys that?05:59
cmg_tritium  ... any idea why it would lose my changes after a 2nd reboot?05:59
tritiumcmg_, no, that doesn't make much sense05:59
Triffid-Hunterjust gotta do it so its the right size in the native resolution of your printer05:59
andreas_Triffid: I`m guessing I`m not accustomed enough with GIMP06:00
cmg_i guess i will run reconfigure again.. what was that command?06:00
tritiumsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:00
Triffid-Hunterif you got a 300dpi printer and you're making a 6" by 9" label, your image should be 1800 by 2700 pixels06:00
Triffid-Hunter;)06:00
cmg_thanks trit06:00
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Triffid-Hunterif you edit it as a smaller image, it'll scale up when you print and you'll get jaggies everywhere06:01
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Triffid-Hunterunless you edit as a vector image anyway, in which case resolution isn't nearly as relevant06:01
andreas_triffid: Thanks. I`l give it a try06:02
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babaliciousei couldn't find clamav in the repositories06:03
alexandreanto9us, i see on the page that i can install ndiswrapper-module and ndiswrapper-util using synaptic06:04
anto9usbabaliciouse: it's in universe06:04
sigjoe@Laptop:~$ apt-cache search clam06:04
sigamavis-ng - AMaViS "Next Generation"06:04
sigclamav - antivirus scanner for Unix06:04
alexandrei can see ndiswrapper-utils, but no module06:04
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anto9usalexandre: yes, you'll also need the headers for your kernel and wireless-tools06:05
ThomasWinwoodWell. Setting up the printer was no hassle at all.06:05
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ThomasWinwoodUbuntu gets five bunnyhops.06:05
babaliciousei'm using synaptic package manager - and see no universe06:05
anto9usbabaliciouse: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:05
schasibunnyhops?06:05
tritiumcyphase, I actually forward port 6667 to my server at home, which is running irssi-text in proxy mode, then connect my irc clients06:06
babaliciousety angel will rfm06:06
mvirkkilCan anyone recommend a good "pixel painting" program?06:06
anto9usmvirkkil: gimp06:06
cyphaselol06:06
mvirkkilanto9us: I said pixel painting, not photo manipulation. Gimp is horrible for pixel painting.06:07
mvirkkilanto9us: Or at least extremely cumbersome.06:07
anto9usmvirkkil: no it isn't06:07
mvirkkilanto9us: How do I define what color gets what number?06:08
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Triffid-Hunteredit the pallette06:08
anto9usmvirkkil: try gnome-iconedit06:08
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mirakwhen I try to compile usbvision module I get this errors : http://channels.debian.net/paste/9506:09
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allabullehi06:09
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Funraiserhello Ubuntians06:10
allabulleI need to intall Alias Maya onto an Ubunto Distro. Any tips on that (apart of using alien to install the rpm?) Thanks in advance.06:10
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FunraiserI installed Point2Play (the cedega GUI) it is installed in usr/bin : if I want to uninstall it, can i just erase it in usr/bin?06:11
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trygvebwHi, i'm having a problem with Ubuntu Hoary. GNOME won't start from GDM, and when i run it manually (gnome-session) from a X-terminal i recieve: "SESSION_MANAGER=local/John:/tmp/.ICE-unix/6524", and nothing else happens. What can be wrong?06:12
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Mr_Milenkotrygvecw: i had a problem with that06:14
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trygvebwDid you solve it?06:14
Mr_Milenkoi did apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop06:14
trygvebwOk06:14
Mr_Milenkothen re did it06:14
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trygvebwso:06:14
Mr_Milenkoapt-get install ubuntu-desktop06:14
trygvebwok :)06:14
babaliciouseso if i mount a network drive, i can simply run clamav on that mount?? straight from my ubuntu machine?06:14
anto9ustrygvebw: try deleting the contents of that tmp directory06:14
trygvebwi'll try it :)06:14
Mr_Milenkohope it works for ya man06:14
trygvebwanto9us, if it doesn't work i'll try that too :)06:14
Mr_Milenkohey before you do that install kde :P06:15
Mr_Milenkojust in case06:15
anto9ustrygvebw: I'd recommed my option first06:15
trygvebwok :)06:15
Mr_Milenkoor fluxbox :P06:15
cmg_having a problem with X and my screen resolution.. I can only select 640x480... i reconfigure X and reboot and I have other resolutions.. as soon as I reboot again.. all I have is 640x48006:15
trygvebwthanks a lot :)06:15
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anto9usbabaliciouse: yes06:15
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samy_cmg try to configure your /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:16
trygvebwFunnyLookinHat, how did you install it?06:16
trygvebwsorry, that should be to Funraiser06:16
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samy_in the screen section, i think you can add resolutions06:16
alexandreanto9us, i have an error message (??)06:17
alexandreroot@macymed-alex:/home/alexandre # modprobe ndiswrapper06:17
alexandreFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted06:17
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anto9usalexandre: ok, ignore it, seen that before and it's still worked06:17
cmg_samy_.. here is something weird.  I don't have an xorg.conf.  i DO have the xorg.conf backups that the reconfigure saved for me06:17
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anto9usalexandre: you have the headers installed for your kernel?06:18
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babaliciousegr8, probably should have been scanning the windows usr's directories long ago - i got samba for the xp usrs, and run all linux server (fedora + ltsp) - does ubuntu support ltsp smoothly?06:18
aehoI have a problem: when I click "properties" of any mp3 file, it crashes nautilus or whatever it is06:18
samy_cmg_ , are you sure you don't have the xorg.conf in your /etc/X11/ directory ?06:18
cmg_samy_ .. i take that back.. i DO have an xorg.conf06:19
cmg_my bad06:19
Triffid-Hunternautilus is like that06:19
trygvebwno.06:19
samy_ok06:19
samy_open it with gedit06:19
cmg_samy_  I see a bunch of other modes in the xorg.conf already06:19
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anto9usbabaliciouse: I've not used it but there's a howto http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LTSPHowTo06:20
alexandreanto9us, yes,06:20
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anto9usalexandre: do you have your windows drivers for your card?06:20
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babaliciousei run the fedora k12ltsp install, and it was effortless06:21
alexandreyes, but i'm not sure of wich inf file to use06:21
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babaliciouselol@ angel sending me to RFM !!!!06:21
alexandreroot@macymed-alex:/home/alexandre # ndiswrapper -i windrv/M2500.INF06:21
alexandreInstalling m250006:21
alexandreroot@macymed-alex:/home/alexandre # ndiswrapper -l06:21
alexandreInstalled ndis drivers:06:21
alexandrem2500   driver present, hardware present06:21
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anto9us:)06:21
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alexandrebut i can't see the ndiswrapper-module using lsmod06:22
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mirakWARNING: Error inserting i2c_algo_usb (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/i2c-algo-usb.ko): Invalid module format06:23
mirakFATAL: Error inserting usbvision (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media/usbvision.ko): Invalid module format06:23
alexandreok06:23
anto9usalexandre: type ifconfig and it should show wlan006:23
mirakI compiled this module, and now I can't insert it, any ideas ?06:23
alexandrenow a modprobe ndiswrapper works06:23
metalsandCan someone help me configure my PCMCIA NIC?06:23
alexandreand now i can see wlan006:23
concept10how do i ssh into my ubuntu box? ssh -l user@xxx.xxx.xx.xx ??06:23
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anto9usconcept10: no, ssh -l user xxx.xxx.xxx.xx06:23
nevynno...06:24
alexandreanto9us, not ifconfig, iwconfig only06:24
nevynssh user@xx.xx.xx.xx06:24
thoreauputicmirak: did you try to modprobe it with the .ko suffix? If so, try without the .ko06:24
nevyn-l should DIE06:24
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mirakthoreauputic: without ko I tried06:24
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mirakquestion, what compiler is used to compile ubuntu x86 kernels ?06:24
thoreauputicmirak: OK - just checking the obvious :)06:25
anto9usalexandre: good you can use it to set your essid and key if you have one format is iwconfig wlan0 essid <foo> key s:<bar>06:25
metalsandAfter I installed wlan-ng drivers for my prism 2.5 PCMCIA card, all data about the card was removed, and it was renamed when I restarted ubuntu to wlan006:25
metalsandHow do now get that working?06:25
metalsandIt's not listed in Network Settings06:25
metalsandand not listed in iwconfig06:25
anto9usalexandre: make that key restricted s:<bar06:25
Lickerim still having probs.. how do I let my desktop know WITHOUT beeing in sudo that im ROOT?06:26
usynicLicker: sudo /bin/bash06:26
trygvebwor sudo -i06:27
trygvebwor sudo -s06:27
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Mr_Milenkohey06:27
Mr_Milenkoanyone want an xbox?06:27
metalsandAnyone, anyone?06:27
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metalsandI've been working at this for like 16 hours straight on/off06:27
metalsandI finally got the wlan-ng drivers to work06:27
mirakthoreauputic: I used the wrong compiler06:27
metalsandI'm so close to my goal!06:27
Mr_Milenkohttp://hackiis6.com <-- Hack IIS6 on Win2k3 with all Hot Fixes and WIN AN XBOX06:27
Mr_Milenko:P06:28
trygvebwmetalsand, in a console:06:28
Lickernope. it stillmsays im not the owner so i cant change file types etc06:28
trygvebwsudo ifconfig up wlan006:28
Mr_MilenkoJust think.. you get to hack an official MS network legally06:28
trygvebwsudo dhclient06:28
thoreauputicLicker: BTW you should never rune a desktop as root (gnome. KDE etc) - if that's what you are trying to do06:28
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metalsandwlan0: Unknown host06:28
metalsandifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.06:28
thoreauputicmirak: oops06:28
trygvebw:/06:28
trygvebwdidn't you say that it was renamed to wlan0?06:28
metalsandYes, it is.06:28
Lickeri just need to give /var/www/admin write permissions06:28
metalsandwlan0     no wireless extensions.06:29
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trygvebwhm06:29
metalsandSomething is wrong with it being detected as a network device06:29
trygvebwnah06:29
trygvebwmodprobe wlan-ng06:29
metalsandhow do I restart PCMCIA services?06:29
trygvebwiwconfig06:29
alexandrea little question: i have do a modprobe ndiswrapper. If i reboot, will i have the obligation to redo it again? is there a way to load modules at startup, (i guess so, but i do not remember the file to edit :()06:30
metalsandFATAL: Module wlan_ng not found.06:30
metalsandNone of my other network devices are found, as well06:31
Lickerthoreauputic: i just need to give /var/www/admin write permissions06:31
metalsandSo I'd assume that's irrelevent06:31
trygvebwwhat does "ifconfig" say?06:31
metalsandonly lists eth0 (wireless device I'm using right now ) and loopback06:31
thoreauputicLicker: afaik only root should write to that dir06:31
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Lickeryea how would I write to it then?06:32
Lickeri need to drop some files in it. how would I do this?06:32
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concept10anyone using ubuntu for server?06:32
trygvebwconcept10, yes06:32
Lickerconcept10: thats what im TRYING to do. :p06:32
concept10trygvebw: do you have any resources on setting up server LAMP so that I can do a mambo CMS?06:32
anto9usalexandre: ndiswrapper -m will take care of that06:33
trygvebwhm06:33
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alexandreanto9us, thx a lot06:33
alexandrenow, configuring my wlan ;)06:33
Mr_Milenkoanybody gonna watch MTV for that Xbox 360 unveiling?06:34
mirakwhy isn't /dev just a ramdisk instead of real files on the harddrive ?06:34
concept10nope06:34
anto9usalexandre: well done :)06:34
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alexandrei little reboot, and i'll be back :)06:34
thoreauputicLicker: sudo cp file /var/www/admin/whatever06:35
concept10mirak: why use ram for all device block files?06:35
mirakspeed acces ?06:36
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Lickerits a whole folder....06:36
metalsandtrygvebw, do you not know what is wrong?06:36
Lickerlike.. i need just the files inside it copied.. not the folder itself06:36
CaptPancakescan anyone tell me how to get mysql to run at startup?06:36
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glen_hey all06:37
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glen_would it be better to install kde from unbuntu or dibian serge?06:37
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ironwolfglen_: kubuntu06:38
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thoreauputicLicker: cd to that dir, and copy the files in it with a wild card like *.suffix or similar (e.g. sudo cp *.html /your/html/dir or whatever)06:38
alexandreanto9us, i have reboot, and now iwconfig do not show me the card06:38
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metalsandCan someone help me configure my wireless PCMCIA card06:39
glen_ironwolf: really, i carnt be bothered downloading and installing it over ubuntu tho... to lazy lol06:39
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thoreauputicLicker: as an example. man cp for details on what cp can do06:39
metalsandthoreauputic, help me out :P06:39
ironwolfglen_: apt-get install kde ; ?06:39
metalsandthoreauputic, I thought I was done with installing the drivers, apparently not06:39
anto9usalexandre: did you install ndiswrapper from repository or compile from source?06:40
Lickerman.. thats complicated.. thats like.. a lot of extra work that dont need to be done.. i cant go around sudo in anyway?06:40
alexandreanto9us, i must redo modprobe ndiswrapper06:40
metalsandLicker, it's better to learn how to navigate with terminal06:40
Licker:(06:40
thoreauputicmetalsand: what I know about wireless would fit on a postage stamp, sorry06:40
alexandrethe utils from repository. the module, i have not install it!!06:40
Lickerthat just seems like a lot of extra work. but ok ill try it06:40
alexandresynaptic do not show me a ndiswrapper-module to install06:41
thoreauputicLicker: cli is much quicker once you get the hang of it06:41
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alexandrebut its works, so it is installed anyways06:41
Lickeris there a way to turn write perm. on through sudo though?06:41
anto9usalexandre: ndiswrapper-source and ndiswrapper-utils06:41
glen_ironwolf : yes but, is it better to use ubuntu's KDE or Debians?06:41
glen_ironwolf: debian serge06:41
thoreauputicLicker: the write permissions are set that way for good security reasons06:42
alexandrei have to install the source too? do i have to compile it too?06:42
Lickeroh ok06:42
ironwolfglen_: what distro do you have installed now?06:42
anto9usalexandre: sorry, no06:42
Lickerwhat does man cp mean then06:42
Licker:p06:42
alexandrewell, installing gcc3306:42
thoreauputicLicker: learn more about linux permissions and commands like chown, chmod, chgrp is my advice06:42
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Lickeri just started learning about 4 days ago06:43
Myrttihrm06:43
thoreauputicLicker: type man cp to find out :)06:43
glen_ironwolf: the newest ubuntu06:43
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metalsandLicker: man man ;)06:43
Lickerohhh.. a manual06:43
thoreauputicLicker: to find manuals, try "apropos keyword"06:43
Myrttiany ideas on how to get boinc started up with the machine or Gnome reliably?06:43
ironwolfglen_: then I'd use ubuntu's06:43
Lickerok06:43
Lickerthanx06:43
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thoreauputicLicker: or "man -k <keyword>"06:44
alexandreanto9us, well it is installed now :)06:44
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Lickerim glad i save my log files. :p06:44
alexandreso how can i make the module to be loaded at startup?06:44
alexandreroot@macymed-alex:/home/alexandre # ndiswrapper -m06:44
alexandremodprobe config already contains alias directive06:44
anto9usalexandre: ndiswrapper -m should have done that06:44
alexandreafter a reboot, it seems to not being installed06:45
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alexandrei must do it by and (sudo modprobe ndiswrapper)06:45
debiannoobis there a way to 'force' a certain resolution @ a certain refresh rate? i'm just getting kinda 75 hz (or even just 60hz) and properly configured horizontal/vertical refresh rates...06:45
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[ben] anyone familiar with alsa?06:46
glen_ironwolf: okay cheers06:46
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Lickerohhh.. i can copy the entire contents of the folder with the cp -d command..  :p06:47
anto9usalexandre: try using the network settings gui to configure it and see what happens, your problem may be related to network profiles or hotplug or something, a bit beyond me right now06:47
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Triffid-Hunter[ben] : google for it.. i've done it once but it didn't work well06:47
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miguel_Hello everybody06:47
Triffid-Hunteri found it was easier to remove midi support from my kernel06:48
Lickeris that the same ben that I know?06:48
[ben] ?06:48
Lickerfrom tdzk..06:48
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miguel_I've got a problem with my HP USB Cd-writer, cd4e06:48
Lickerhe just uses the same [ben]  name then prob.06:48
[ben] k06:48
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[ben] Licker, sorry for that.06:49
Lickernp06:49
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miguel_/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:<3>Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 006:50
poethi! where is mplayer for ubuntu?06:50
miguel_that is the error it gives me06:50
[ben] Triffid-Hunter, i checked all the wikis ansd did not found a way to configure alsa06:50
anto9uspoet: it's in the multiverse repository06:51
hatred_brb06:51
miguel_Could somebody help me? I'm using hoarty06:51
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alexandreanto9us, the GUI netwok tools does not know WPA06:52
alexandre?06:52
ironwolfmiguel_: what were you doing when you got the error?06:52
[ben] Triffid-Hunter,  i have a good soundcard but it works very very bad..06:53
anto9usalexandre: I've not tried WPA yet, I know I should but I'm just using WEP and MAC address filtering06:53
g14anto9us: Do you want to see how easy it is to crack wep?06:53
Triffid-Hunter[ben] : what kernel?06:53
kotatsuanyone have experience with emachines notebooks and their wireless cards?06:54
g14anto9us: Go to whoppix.net and click on demos. Then click the one about Web Cracking.06:54
miguel_ironwoll: nothing, the cd-writer has always given me the same error06:54
ironwolfI've got a Jumpshot reader, and a CF card.  dmesg sees the card no errors, there's no errors in /var/log/syslog, /proc/scsi/scsi shows the device, but no device node was created.  How do I find the right info to make the device node or mount the CF card?06:54
miguel_Since the first time i've booted ubuntu, in fact06:54
anto9usg14, I know, I'm looking at the WPA howto know, alexandre it's at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WPAHowto06:54
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anto9uss/know/now06:55
[ben] ubuntu 5.04, kernel2.XX?06:55
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miguel_it's a loop-circle error06:55
g14anto9us: I crack into most wep "protected" networks in under 5 minutes with my pavilion zd7000 laptop06:55
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Triffid-Hunter[ben] : output of uname -r06:56
saromdamn, mind mapping is so cool06:56
anto9usg14: one speculates one could make a fortune doing that06:56
miguel_[ben] , if the question is for me it's the 2.6.10 kernel06:56
ironwolfmiguel_: no clue.  sorry06:56
[ben] Triffid-Hunter, thx, helped.. 2.6.10-5-38606:56
Triffid-Hunter2.6.12 has a whole bunch of alsa fixes06:57
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occyjdub, you around?06:57
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miguel_2.6.10-5-38606:57
Triffid-Hunterit'll be ages before you guys see it though :(06:57
g14anto9us: If you only knew...06:57
occyseen many cases of Ubuntu locking up lately?06:57
[ben] Triffid-Hunter, so it is06:57
g14occy: Nvidia drivers?06:57
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occyg14, I'm using nvidia, yes.06:57
miguel_I've got a problem with my HP USB Cd-writer, cd4e06:58
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occyg14, suggestion as to what to do to fix if that could be the problem?06:58
miguel_it always gives me the same error06:58
miguel_/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:<3>Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 006:58
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XTCboarderanyone wana give opinion on xfce v/s gnome?06:58
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occyg14, I'm using the ubuntu nvidia drivers.06:59
g14occy: Hoary Hedgehog has stability issues with the nvidia drivers. I heard it's going to be fixed in Breezy when it comes out, but thats not until october. It is somewhere on the forums06:59
occyg14, ahhh06:59
occysuxx0r06:59
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occy:(06:59
occyhmmm06:59
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occymaybe uninstall the hoary nvidia drivers and install them from nvidia?07:00
miguel_does anybody know if my usb cd-writer problem can be solved by changing the acpi settings in the kernel?07:00
g14occy: Thats what I would try07:00
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Fator_DeeX7C: if you have a low performance machine xfce or fluxbox is better than gnome07:00
g14xfce07:00
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occyg14, k.  Guess it couldn't hurt to try.07:00
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g14With Rox-Filer for the desktop07:00
g14occy, nope07:00
occyg14, any howto on that some place?07:01
ironwolfanyone? usb card reader, not automounting *that's ok* but not creating sda[0-9]  is less than optimum.07:01
X7Cthx07:01
X7Ccan i run gdesklets on xfce?07:02
tanekhow do i override refreshrates? i want 100hz instead of 8507:02
g14occy: Try looking on the ubuntu forums or google07:02
occyk07:02
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Triffid-Huntertanek: your x config, be it xf86config or xorg.conf07:02
X7C tanek edit your xorg.conf file...07:02
tanekoki, thx07:02
g14ironwolf, Is it for sd cards or CF?07:02
X7Cthat's right Triffid-Hunter07:03
Triffid-Hunter:)07:03
ironwolfg14: CF07:03
Triffid-Hunterlast i checked ubuntu was running xfree still07:04
Triffid-Hunter:/07:04
X7C:p07:04
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X7Choary runs xorg07:04
tanekand where in the xorg.conf do i change this? :P07:04
g14ironwolf: Can you manually mount it?07:04
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X7Cin monitior section...07:04
X7Cbut tanek07:04
X7Cdoes ur monitor support that?07:05
tanekyes it does, been running it at 100hz in windows forever07:05
X7Cyou can fry it :p....07:05
Lickerwhat does Omitting directory mean07:05
X7Cah07:05
ironwolfg14: therein lies my problem, I can't seem to find that it created any /dev/sd* nodes for it.07:05
X7Cin the monitor section07:05
tanekyeah, but there is no option for refreshrates?07:05
X7Cwhat i never remember if it's vertical or horizontal refresh07:05
g14ironwolf, unplug the card. type sudo tail -f /var/log/messages and then plug it in07:06
Triffid-Huntervertical07:06
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X7Cthen addit07:06
Triffid-Hunterhorizontal is in the tens to hundreds of khz normally07:06
g14ironwolf, you should see something about a new usb mass storage device detected07:06
tanekand the syntax is? sry fr beeing annoying07:06
X7Ci just put them fixed07:06
tanek?07:06
Triffid-Huntertanek: there'll be a vsync entry already, just change it07:06
X7Clet me see.....07:06
metalsandCan someone help me configure my wireless PCMCIA card?07:07
ironwolfg14: yep, now what?  It correctly identifies the Lexar CF Card07:07
tanekTriffid-Hunter: cant find it :S07:07
numbhi there... i'm having a little problem07:07
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numbis that i can't transfer files from my windowsxp machine to my ubuntu machine07:07
g14ironwolf: It should say somewhere what device it is like sdx or whatever07:07
X7Ctanek07:07
X7C VertRefresh     7507:07
X7Cthat's the entry07:08
X7Ci use07:08
taneknumb: the answer is called samba07:08
X7CHorizSync i left it automatic07:08
tanekSubSection "Display"07:08
tanekDepth107:08
tanekModes"1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"07:08
tanekVertRefresh     7507:08
taneklike that07:08
tanek?07:08
X7Cnope07:08
miguel_I've got a problem with my HP USB Cd-writer, cd4e07:08
omatunto_hi, anybody know where I could get a newer version of e2fsck without destroying my package management? I'm running hoary.07:08
X7Cthat's on your screen section07:08
miguel_it always gives me the same error07:08
X7Cinto your monitor section07:08
miguel_/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:<3>Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 007:09
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X7Cfor me is like this         Identifier      "DELL P780"        Option          "DPMS" \n#       HorizSync       80        VertRefresh     7507:09
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tanekSection "Monitor"07:09
tanekIdentifier"F790D"07:09
tanekOption"DPMS"07:09
tanekVertRefresh     10007:09
taneklike that?07:09
X7Cyeah07:09
ironwolfg14: I sent you what I see.07:09
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tanekbut that'll give me 100hz even in gdm which is 1600x1200?07:10
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tanekand thats too much for my monitor07:10
applyIs there a gcc channel?  I'm trying to make my code auto-vectorizable under gcc-4.0 but the documentation is lacking.07:10
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nadavapply: #gcc07:11
M3dayguys i downloaded ubuntu ,, so how to burn its using nero ?07:11
sylvanIs there a ubuntu/linux newbie channel around here somwhere?07:11
applynadav: thanks, I forgot the #07:11
ironwolfsylvan: your in it. :) welcome.07:12
g14M3day, Cancel out of the wizard and go to file -> open07:12
X7Ctanek and thats too much for my monitor << then fix the screen size as well07:12
omatunto_Is there any development repository such as RH rawhide or Mandrake cooker?07:12
M3dayg14 great then07:12
sylvanthanks! Okay so how do I configure hardware acceleration for my graphics card (ATI Radeon 9800 Pro)07:12
g14M3day, then you have to hit the dropdown menu and go to show all files and then you can browse to it07:12
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tanekX7C: yeah, im on it. think i saw a thread at the forum some time ago07:12
X7Cmy xorg acted very funky but then i fixed the stuff and it worked perfectly07:12
LickerI have tried the sudo copy folder command but its not working right...07:13
tanekmine's working nicely, but im picky with my refreshrates07:13
sigsudo -s07:13
X7Cie. would opnly work at 800x600 or 1600x1200 and sometimes monitor res was at 1600x1200 thoug i'd see things 800x60007:13
X7C:p07:13
sigthen do: cp filename newfilename07:13
Lickerok07:13
sigor dir/ newdirname/07:13
sigsudo -s07:13
Lickeri was doing sudo cp -d D-Loads/admin /var/www/cgi-bin/admin07:13
tanekX7C: wierd :P07:14
sigcp dirname/ newdirname/07:14
numbtanek: which packets are need? i have samba-commom and python-samba installed07:14
numbis anything else needed?07:14
X7Csamba server07:14
X7C:p07:14
X7Clet me see07:14
taneknumb: there is a lot on the subjekt on www.ubuntuguide.org u need the packages samba and smbfs, i think07:15
X7C"samba"07:15
tanektake a look07:15
X7Cnumb07:15
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sylvanNobody knows anything about getting hardware support for graphics (like an OpenGL app)?07:15
Lickerit just says cp: omitting directory `D-Loads/admin/' and thats all it does07:15
X7Cdo apt-get install samba07:15
numbX7C: installing07:15
X7Ck07:16
tanekfor some reason samba screws up my networking. can use it for a few days, then i get no network connections... if i uninstall / reinstall it it works a few days again07:16
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X7Cthat's weird07:16
X7C:( i have a etst tomorrow at 8am :(07:17
tanekaw07:17
ironwolfsylvan: what are you trying to do?07:17
tanekthe forums are down?07:17
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sylvanat the moment I'm trying to run 3ddesktop, but it would be nice to have hardware support for OpenGL apps other than that one (like games and stuff)07:17
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BWGameshey... i'm trying to install hoary, but i've got a bad cd and can't really redownload it all - is there any way to use the CD, except get the install to download the neccessaryt packages that aren't available on cd?07:18
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tanekX7C: can i just remove the options in the screen sections that are higher resolution than my monitor can use at 100hz?07:18
g14BWGames, search the forums for netinstall07:18
tanekcause that's what i did :P07:18
X7Cyeah07:18
ironwolfBWGames: I've heard of people doing netinstall, maybe search the forums or the wiki.07:18
BWGamesg14: will that enable me to use the cd as well?07:18
X7CI only have 1 resolution and one colordepth :p07:18
ironwolfsylvan: what's your hardware?07:18
sylvanan ATI Radeon 9800 Pro07:19
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ironwolfsylvan: have you search the wiki for the right ati drivers for that?07:20
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sylvannope... I'm totally new to this... where's this wiki?07:20
ironwolfsylvan: wiki.ubuntu.com07:21
sylvanokay I'll try to find drivers...07:21
LickerWoo Hoo.. well it was sudo cp -a to copy an entire dir. :p07:21
tanekLicker: the manual knows it all :D07:22
Roger_MartinsHi, I would like to know as I make to install only the minimum system of ubuntu. Therefore I wanted to only install the packages that I use, using apt.07:22
Licker:p07:22
Lickeryea well.. the manual needs to better explain itself07:22
Licker:p07:22
Lickeri used every command and none worked till the bottom one witch was -a07:22
Licker:p07:22
X7CRoger_Martins,07:22
sylvanironwolf: It says that it's supported and autodetected and whatnot, maybe I need to configure some OpenGL lib to use hardware, or something?07:23
X7Cyou should be able to....07:23
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Roger_MartinsX7C, ?07:23
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X7Cto... to do that :p07:23
X7Cbut ou have to manually select which packages yo want for a start07:24
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Roger_MartinsIso that I have here does not have this option to select packages.07:25
AmaranthRoger_Martins: boot it with the server option07:27
AmaranthRoger_Martins: It'll install a minimal system (no X or anything)07:27
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pythonhello07:29
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Roger_MartinsWhich I would write this in boot?07:29
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pythoni have an unwanted folder that has appeared in the Gnome applications menu, how can i remove it, does anyone know?07:30
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asmodiAnyone who knows why ndiswrapper gives me: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format07:30
metalsandpython: rm -rf when in dir07:30
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asmodiTried to apt-get ndiswrapper and installed it from source, same error07:30
pythonwhere is the directory07:31
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metalsandOh, applications menu07:31
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pythonim talking about the Gnome GUI07:31
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pythonthe Application menu has a folder which has appeared i want too remove it07:32
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BWGamesdoes anyone know how to make the ubuntu CD bootable? I've had to take all the files off and replace some of them, but i cant seem to make it boot, anyone07:32
BWGames?07:32
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pythonis there not a config file for Gnome menu07:32
ikaromojn07:33
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metalsandBWGames, did you not DL the live CD?07:33
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BWGamesi dl'd install CD, its got some bad files, so i;ve replaced them, but trying to make it bootr again07:33
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Triffid-HunterBWGames: you need the boot loader to be installed properly..07:33
Roger_MartinsAmaranth, How it would be this option in boot?07:33
Lickerwhat does Chown mean??.....07:34
occyIs there another video card out there that works well under Ubuntu without proprietary drivers?07:34
Fator_DeeLicker: change owner07:34
ironwolfsylvan: what does apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ; say?07:34
BWGamesTriffid-Hunter: yeah, can i get the boot image off the oriignal cd?07:34
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Lickerhow do you change owner?07:34
Triffid-HunterBWGames: yeah.. what OS you in at the moment?07:34
Fator_DeeLicker: it's a terminal command, do "man chown" in terminal to het more info07:34
Triffid-HunterLicker: with the chown command07:34
Lickerpl07:34
Lickerok07:34
Fator_Dee*het = get07:34
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BWGamesTriffid-Hunter: XP07:35
Triffid-HunterBWGames: google an xp "slipstreaming" guide and skip to the burning cd section07:35
BWGamesi've extracted BootImage.bin from the CD using ISObuster, but its only 2kb? :S07:35
Triffid-Hunteryeah thats about right07:35
anbamI can't get my microphone to work! I can hear myself loud and clear but I get an error when I try to record. I have an audigy 2 sound card. The error I get is: ALSA device "default" had an error. Some solutions I found on the web said I had to enable Mic Capture in the mixer, but I don't even have that option.07:36
Triffid-Hunteryou gotta load that into nero someplace and set the image size to 4 blocks07:36
BWGamesTriffid-Hunter: so i use the same as for XP? no emu, etc etc07:36
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BWGamesok thanks :)07:36
BWGamesthat'd explain why ;)07:36
Triffid-Hunteras per xp slipstream guide :)07:36
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mmichellitrying to install puredata, but cant get it going. Anyone have a good "how to" url07:36
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drcodehi all07:37
Triffid-Hunteryeah if you turn on emulation, the boot loader will think its on a floppy that it can't find in devices and die most amusingly07:37
Triffid-Huntermmichelli: google.com ?07:37
drcodecan I tell cygwin to start with full screen?07:37
BWGamesaha thanks, will have a go :)07:37
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mmichelliTriffid-Hunter: found help on google but none of them worked.07:38
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Triffid-Hunter:(07:38
Licker7) Chown all the files in the cgi-bin directory to the user executing cgi files that are accessed via the web. <--whats that mean.. give access to my user guy and not only root?07:39
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Chipparncan anyone help me? i got problem with my sount.. playing games, musik, movies the sound is really really low. while other sounds is loud. i got that problem at the same time i installed kde. any ideas?07:39
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neirasHey everyone, I'm tracking Ubuntu Hoary and I have to try to start rhythmbox 2 or 3 times before it actually launches. The first few times, it segfaults. Is this a known issue?07:40
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debiannoobcan anyone help me, getting the most out of xorg.conf regarding resolution and refresh rate pls :)07:41
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BWGamesi know this place is a bit(!) biased, but is ubuntu a decent server OS?07:42
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Triffid-HunterBWGames: its targeted at desktop users, but based on debian which can be a decent server os07:43
Triffid-Huntermy favourite distro is gentoo all round though07:43
Triffid-Hunterthe *BSDs are considered the most secure server OS', but are trickier to set up for that exact reason07:43
BWGamesTriffid-Hunter: thanks, similar to what i thought. i wanted to use Debian, but their lack of updates put me off, so Ubuntu seemed a decent choice, plus i used it on the desktop, and liked it07:44
anbamso, can anyone help me out :) ?07:45
metalsandwhat's basic software to play .mp3s07:45
Triffid-Hunteri used debian for a couple of years but got sick of all the things i had to fix myself07:45
Triffid-Huntermetalsand: xmms07:45
debiannoobi need resolutions such as 1024x768@100hz / 1600x1024@85hz & 1920x1440@85hz; i used those resolutions while working with Windo$e and i'm struggling getting those working in X; what else can be configured in xorg.conf besides HorizSync and VertRefresh to get this running?07:45
Fator_Deemetalsand: beep-media-player or xmms or rhythmbox07:45
Myrttidoes anyone have any ideas on how to launch boinc-client automatically with the computer or Gnome? I've tried the "System - Preferences - Sessions", but it seems that it doesnt work with ./boinc07:45
BWGamesi've used RH8 for the past few years, but it got rooted yesterday, so i thought i'd get something on it that was a bit better than a old RH version07:45
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neirasMyrtti: Where is boic-client located on your system?07:45
Myrttiin .boinc/07:46
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Myrttiat ~/07:46
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neirasMyrtti: in a terminal, type "which boinc-client"07:46
neirasMyrtti: Paste me the output in a private message07:46
IcemanV9debiannoob: have u tried 'Xorg -configure' ?07:46
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kwamehi07:46
kwamethe new version of ubuntu what version of gnome has?07:47
debiannoobIcemanV9: nope - lemme try that asap!07:47
neiraskwame: 2.10.107:47
terjeany of viewing wmv files in totum?07:47
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Myrttineiras: no output whatsoever. I might've said it in a bad way07:47
neirasterje: Sure, if you install totem-xine and w32codecs07:47
kwameneiras, do you know of a repository where i can find windowmaker?07:47
neiraskwame, if it's not in universe, sorry, no07:47
terjegreat, thanks.07:47
metalsandDoes XMMS need a plug in to play mp3s?07:48
neirasterje: You'll need to add the marillat repositories to your apt sources07:48
MyrttiI've got a ~/.boinc/ in which lies a boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu executable07:48
neirasMyrtti: ok07:48
Triffid-Huntermetalsand: it comes with some afaik07:48
neirasMyrtti: running boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu works?07:48
Triffid-Hunterfriend of mine installed it and it "Just Worked"07:48
Triffid-Huntersame for me07:48
metalsandi tried open with XMMS and XMMS isn't responding07:48
Myrttirunning ./boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu when in the .boinc/ works07:49
metalsandi clicked play and now I can't click antyhing07:49
neirasMyrtti: OK. Here's what you need to do.07:49
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Myrtti(I have to say to you, I love you guys)07:49
neirasMyrtti: Open System->Preferences->Sessions07:49
terjealrighty07:49
BWGamesdamn... just tried to replace the files, i get image checksum error now, is there any way to bypass that?07:49
neirasMyrtti: Then, click the Startup Programs tab07:49
BWGames(on the cd bootup, ISOLINUX)07:50
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terjeSeems like I'd have to replace the backend gstreamer with libxine?07:50
Myrttiok07:50
usynicuh, anyone know how to use the new mplayer plugin?07:50
usynicthere's no play/stop/fullscreen buttons anymore07:50
neirasMyrtti: Click ADD and in the startup command box, type "/home/myrtti/.boinc/boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu07:51
debiannoobIcemanV9: i tried Xorg -configure // i get the following error msg 'Missing output drivers.  Configuration failed.' - any suggestions?07:51
neirasMyrtti: Replace "/home/myrtti" with "/home/yourusername"07:51
neirasMyrtti: If you arent sure what your username is, type 'whoami' in a Terminal07:51
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Myrttineiras: the thing is, I do and did have that there. But it doesn't launch it. It has, but doesn't anymore07:52
Triffid-Hunterneiras: "Click ADD and in the startup command box, type "/home/`whoami`/.boinc/boinc_4.19_i686-pc-linux-gnu" ;)07:52
neirasMyrtti: The difference is the /home/myrtti bit.07:52
Triffid-Hunteror wouldn't that work?07:53
neirasTriffid-Hunter: That doesn't work in the Startup Programs box07:53
Triffid-Hunterhrm oh well07:54
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Myrttilet's see then07:54
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IcemanV9debiannoob: hmm. didn't seen this error before. let me see ..07:54
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neirasMyrtti, little differences can be the difference between working and non working. You were in the right place, but you were using relative paths instead of absolute paths07:55
Nub_-gente, eu sei que  uma pergunta idiota pra vcs mas, eu peguei o xmms e nao to conseguindo executa-lo, como fao isso?07:55
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regeyatriffid hunter, eh?07:55
Nub_-tipo, tem que configurar algo antes?07:55
regeyakinda hard to hunt triffids when you're blind07:55
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metalsandhow do I create a new file in terminal07:55
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neirasmetalsand: "touch filename"07:56
LickerOk.. How would would I give web access to my cgi-bin?07:56
Triffid-Hunteror just save from an editor, or redirect output to one that doesn't exist or whatever07:56
neirasmetalsand: If you want to _edit_ the file, "nano filename"07:56
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IcemanV9debiannoob: did u run the command while u're in X?07:57
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debiannoobIcemanV9: yeah07:57
IcemanV9debiannoob: if so, then kill X server .. and try it again w/o X running07:57
debiannoobIcemanV9: k - i'll report back :)07:58
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LickerOk.. How would would I give web access to my cgi-bin?<--- im trying to open moduale.cgi in a web browser..08:00
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zoddanHi08:00
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_ac_chan_hello08:02
lozhello08:02
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ivokshi08:02
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LickerOk.. How would would I give web access to my cgi-bin?<--- im trying to open moduale.cgi in a web browser..08:03
ivoksLicker u need web server :)08:03
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burncharI just setup a system for my boss with an nForce-4 mobo (MSI K8N Neo4 Non-SLI) and sound doesn't work! I would appreciate any help. It appears to be a Realtek ALC850 chipset.08:05
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burncharHmm. Is anybody here?08:06
Lickerivoks: www.gamertime.net I have a server. lolz08:06
chrisg666yup! just booted the live ubuntu08:07
chrisg666looks intresting08:07
IcemanV9chrisg666: even better when u install it :)08:08
burncharDoes anyone know how to get sound working on an MSI Neo4 motherboard (nforce-4/Realtek ALC850 sound chip)?08:08
chrisg666not familiar with gnome yet but I like the simpler interface so far...08:09
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stuNNedivoks: hi08:11
hoaryhi all08:12
ivoksstuNNed08:12
InitMassa spoke with a person who proclaimed that ubuntu slowly is going incompatible with debian08:12
ivoksInitMass Ian? :)08:12
stuNNedhi hoary08:12
hoaryhello08:12
InitMassivoks, no not him08:12
ivoksInitMass then who? and what did he/she said?08:12
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hoarywhats the topic08:13
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dabaSlonburnchar: what program does the sound not work in?08:13
InitMassivoks, i spoke with a guy who said he had read several news about this thing the latest weeks08:13
dabaSlonburnchar: just globally?08:13
kickrocksI got the live cd for emt64/amd64 but when I get to the language selection screen keyboard does nothing.  Yes it is connected, via PS2.  Any ideas?08:13
ivoksInitMass ah...08:13
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FlyingSquirrel32WebEx requires Netscape 4.78 or 4.79 I've been told Mozilla is based on Netscape, will it cut it?08:13
ivoksInitMass thoose are crap08:14
kbrooksFlyingSquirrel32: yes08:14
ivoksInitMass yes, ubuntu isn't full compatibile with sarge08:14
ivoksInitMass but is sid fully compatibile with that same sarge?08:14
ivoksnope...08:14
tritiumInitMass, ubuntu contributes its work back for Debian to use08:14
ivoksso... go figure :)08:14
FlyingSquirrel32cool, I'll have to figure out what it is I'm missing..08:15
ivokstritium and that should allways do08:15
InitMassremember i didn't proclaim that. i just asked ;)08:15
tritiumivoks, insightful comparison with sid08:15
ivoksInitMass we tell u the real thing :)08:15
InitMass:)08:15
dabaSlonburnchar: alsamixer is a good command to play around with sound, just to check it is not muted...and m mutes/unmutes, so try tweaking that...if yioure still reading...08:16
ivoksInitMass i love debian more than my brother08:16
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ivoksi wouldn't use ubuntu if i feel like thurning back to debian08:16
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FlyingSquirrel32kbroks, it also requires  Red Hat Linux 6.x - 7.2 or compatible versions of the kernel and XFree8608:16
ivoksdebian brings me only money, while my brother don't :)08:16
dabaSlonivoks, wow.08:17
InitMassivoks, how do you own money with debian?08:17
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ivoksInitMass i deploy it on servers and clusters08:17
Greyhawk_DragonHey.08:17
ivokssomething i will start with ubuntu too08:17
hoaryI have trouble with midi. Kmid opens but makes no sound. I have tried to install some packages.. still not working. Is there an easy way to get midi to work?08:17
BWGameshi, how do i install ubunt off the internet, by using a CD to boot the installer, not PXE/etherboot?08:17
anto9ushas anyone succesfully installed postgresql 8 on ubuntu?08:18
Greyhawk_DragonHow do I make a package marked i386 accept installation on an x86_64 system?08:18
ivoksBWGames that was possible on old woody style instalation (never used on ubuntu). i don't know, i think u can't with new installation system08:18
ivoksBWGames start expert mode and look08:19
InitMassivoks, do you consider ubuntu as stable as debian when using it on a server?08:19
ivoksInitMass stable... funny word08:19
ivoksInitMass all distros are stable08:19
ivoksInitMass u don't use gnome, x, kde and stuff that breaks08:20
BWGamesivoks: thanks08:20
Lickerthe thing SYTILL wont work... can anyone figure out why? http://www.gamertime.net08:20
InitMassivoks, i'm using fluxbox :)08:20
LickerModule.cgi08:20
ivoksInitMass problem with debian is that it has great packages, but old08:20
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ivoksInitMass same shit like gnome08:20
FlyingSquirrel32kbrooks, it also requires  Red Hat Linux 6.x - 7.2 or compatible versions of the kernel and XFree8608:20
ivoksInitMass i was in that period too, "gnome sucks" "gnome this" "gnome that" "omg kde"... i used fluxbox too08:21
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ivoksInitMass but in the end, what do i need myu laptop for?08:21
InitMassivoks, i don't know08:21
ivoksInitMass i need it to work on it08:21
ivoksInitMass i don't have time searching for files in console08:21
InitMassivoks, then make an alias08:21
ivoksi need plesent GUI that I can use08:21
ivoksInitMass ah... how old are u? :)08:22
ivoksu see... RAM is cheep08:22
kbrooksLOL08:22
ivoksit's not like old days08:22
ivoksu can buy 1GB and use 5 gnomes in the same time08:22
FlyingSquirrel32ivoks, what was the final verdict? What do you use now?08:22
ivoksFlyingSquirrel32 gnome08:22
dabaSlonwell, you can make a nother wm look exactly like gnome, ivoks...08:22
ivoksbut that's only on my lap08:22
dabaSloneven kde...08:22
ivokson server it's zsh08:23
admxWhat is the price for a Gig of Ram these days?08:23
InitMassivoks, you mean that you can't use fluxbox because it doesn't have a filesearch integrated?08:23
dabaSlonon what system?08:23
ivoksdabaSlon I don't have time making some other WMs look like Gnome08:23
dabaSlonok, so that is what you mean, its nice out the box...08:23
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ivoksdabaSlon i don't think gnome is the best... but it's very good on ubuntu08:23
Greyhawk_DragonNever mind. Solved it myself.08:23
dabaSlonyes, I find taht with Ubuntu totally,08:23
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ivoksInitMass look...08:24
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ivoksInitMass fluxbox is THE worst *box08:24
joe|codeI love Gnome. I always used KDE but then I tried Gnome with Ubuntu and I was hooked.08:24
ivoksInitMass if u check ur RAM, u will see it takes more RAM than KDE3.408:24
dabaSlonno, I agree...08:24
ivoksInitMass try blackbox08:24
ivoksInitMass get speed08:25
joe|codexfce4 is shweet also.08:25
Lickerthe thing SYTILL wont work... can anyone figure out why? http://www.gamertime.net08:25
InitMassivoks, i can't compare with kde because i don't have it installed but if i compare it with gnome, fluxbox uses less ram08:25
ivoksInitMass true08:25
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ivoksInitMass gnome is bloated08:25
dabaSlonit is all good, relly, depends on your needs.08:25
admxivoks, InitMass is right08:26
ivoksInitMass but i have RAM for that bload08:26
ivoksbloat08:26
ivoksand i don't care08:26
ivoksi need RAM and CPU on my cluster08:26
ivoksnot laptop08:26
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ivoksadmx is right in what? nobody here is right or wrong08:26
ivoksadmx everybody uses stuff they like/need/lov08:27
ivokslove08:27
ivoksfor example...08:27
admxfluxbox vs KDE or Gnome in ram usage08:27
mirakwhy there is no /dev/fb0 device ?08:27
ivoksi move my laptop beetween 5-6 different network enviorments08:27
admxtrue08:27
Triffid-Hunterkde is a ram hog08:27
ivoksnet-applet in gnome is great08:27
InitMassi don't like the menu in xfce otherwise it's good too08:27
Triffid-Hunterbut i use it anyway cos i got the ram to run it nicely08:27
joe|codeif I remove the CD repository will Ubuntu seek out alternative sources?08:27
ivoksadmx belive me, KDE 3.4 uses 70MB RAM08:28
tritiummirak, there is08:28
mirakwhy I don't have a /dev/fb0 device ?08:28
ivoksadmx even less08:28
mirakI don't have it08:28
ivoksadmx if u take out apache and myslql08:28
ivoksand X08:28
ivoksfluxbox takes more08:28
ivoksgnome even more08:28
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ivoksand don't get me start on that e1608:28
ivoksso small and so hungry :)08:28
ivoksi used them all08:29
dabaSlonjoe|code: just add the alternative sources yourself...08:29
joe|codeThats so weird, you would think that KDE would be the ram hog being as it is so heavy on the eyecandy.08:29
admxnet-applet is okay for me but would rather have network manager.08:29
miraktritium: what is the module for fb ?08:29
ivokswmaker is best easyWM08:29
tritiummirak, framebuffer08:29
joe|codedabaSlon, ok thank you08:29
dabaSlonwelcome, you know how you are gonna go about it?08:29
ivoksadmx network-config?08:30
admxfluxbox, when I tried it did not use much ram on my system.08:30
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root1_hello08:30
ivoksgentoo has great scripts for managing network interfaces08:30
miraktritium: what device should it create ?08:30
admxNetworkManager, it is what is used on Fedora08:30
tritium/dev/fb008:30
dabaSlonyo root!08:30
ivoksadmx ah, fedora was couple of hours on my lap08:31
lotusleafWithout access to broadband, I'm curious: Should I begin a download of ubuntu iso at 56k?08:31
ivokswhen u get hooked to debian, nothing can replace it08:31
ivokslotusleaf lol, no08:31
lotusleafivoks: why not08:31
Triffid-Huntersif ivoks08:31
Triffid-Hunteri threw debian out in favour of gentoo08:31
mirakhow to get a /dev/fb0 device file ?08:31
ivokshehe08:31
Triffid-Hunternever looked back08:31
tritiummirak, oh, I didn't see that your previous question was about the module.  fbcon and vesfb08:31
ivoksTriffid-Hunter i used gentoo for a long time08:32
root1_guys is there any msn messenger for ubuntu ?08:32
wm_eddielotusleaf: When I was a kid, downloading linux ISOs over 56k was something I did a lot.08:32
admxI tried Suse, and Fedora, however Ubuntu is now on my systems08:32
wm_eddieroot1_: gaim08:32
wm_eddieroot1_: or amsn08:32
ivoksTriffid-Hunter my heart was crying when i started ubuntu installation08:32
Triffid-Hunterroot1_: kopete, gaim...08:32
dabaSlonyeah, you ahve to add your account.08:32
ivokslotusleaf it won't download in ur lifetime08:32
dabaSlonare you using gaim now?08:32
root1_ok i'm newbie in linux how i install it ?08:32
lotusleafivoks: lol08:32
ivoksTriffid-Hunter but ubuntu is great08:32
wm_eddieroot1_: it should be installed.08:32
tritiummirak, vesafb is the vesa framebuffer, fbcon is the framebuffer console08:32
dabaSlonroot1_: are you using gaim now?08:32
admxMuch better enduser experince for me08:32
root1_nope i downloaded amsn08:33
Triffid-Hunterivoks: a friend of mine has it.. seems alrite.. have had to fix umpteen things in it though08:33
ivoksTriffid-Hunter up-to-date packages as gentoo, but power of apt-get08:33
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dabaSlonyou can go applications, internet, gaim08:33
lotusleafWith ubuntu do newer versions require a complete, fresh, reinstall or is it easy to upgrade to the next version like Debian?08:33
wm_eddieroot1_: Try exploring the Applications Menu a bit.08:33
Triffid-Hunterapt-get has nothin that emerge doesn't...08:33
miraktritium: I try to use xawtv but it doesn't work08:33
dabaSlonthen in the buddy list, you can hit ctrl+a which brings up accounts.08:33
ivoksTriffid-Hunter lol08:33
Triffid-Hunterand nowhere near as up to date as gentoo08:33
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dabaSlonroot1_: then you go add button, and add the accounts.08:33
root1_got it08:33
ivoksTriffid-Hunter gentoo takes too much time08:33
Triffid-Hunterthey still havent got the 2.6.11 kernel in apt afaik08:33
dabaSlonit can have msn, yahoo, and a lot otf others.08:33
Triffid-Huntersif ivoks08:33
ivoksTriffid-Hunter and gives back on a few archs08:34
admxMy co-workers have also switched to Ubuntu for the same reasons as mine.08:34
lotusleafTriffid-Hunter: I tried Gentoo but I found I was spending more time with my invisible friends than real ones08:34
g14<Gentoo flame> I LOVE spending 3 days compiling a desktop I can have in <1 hour with Ubuntu with 2-3% more performance</Gentoo flame>08:34
ivoksg14 that's good point08:34
ivoksthat's true08:34
ivoksI need desktop08:34
tritiummirak, that would need a v4l device, not the framebuffer08:34
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ivoksnoting else..08:34
dabaSlonlotusleaf: I dont see how that is a gentoo issue....08:35
root1_another question guys i got another hd connected to my pc ,, and i want to run it so how i can do that ?08:35
dabaSlonyou did too much of that lotus leaf it seems.08:35
Triffid-Hunterg14: somethin you only gotta do once, and with ccache and distcc it only takes like 8 hours08:35
lotusleafdabaSlon: so I left my gentoo install for my next of kin ;P08:35
miraktritium: I have a usb capture card08:35
dabaSlonroot1_: does it have an OS installed on it?08:35
miraktritium: I don't understand the error08:35
wm_eddieroot1_: is it in System>Computer?08:35
admxIt was funny to see the lastest Eweek mag say that Ubuntu is a Disto to keep a eye on....08:35
BWGamesadmx: why?08:36
dabaSlonyes, go...08:36
lotusleafTriffid-Hunter: if you left Debian and never looked back, what are you doing in a debian based distro channel? Did you find Marty's time machine?08:36
root1_no OS08:36
ivoksTriffid-Hunter http://funroll-loops.org08:36
dabaSlonok, well, you need to mount it...08:36
ivoksTriffid-Hunter u don't have to do once08:36
dabaSlonroot1_: is it formatted08:36
root1_and not its not in the System>Computer08:36
ivoksTriffid-Hunter i did it every week08:36
root1_yea08:36
ivoksTriffid-Hunter i was on ~x8608:36
admxBecause that is what I was telling my friends08:36
dabaSlonwhich FS?08:36
root1_its full of mp3s08:36
Triffid-Hunterlol lotusleaf a lot of the stuff asked here applies to linux generally rather than ubuntu specifically08:36
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dabaSlonit was used in windows earlier?08:36
root1_yup08:36
lotusleafTriffid-Hunter: cleverly crafted ;)08:36
nojhanhi08:36
dabaSlonthen it is likely NTFS...08:36
dabaSlontry this for me...08:37
Triffid-Hunterivoks: i'm on ~x86.. update once a week takes like 45 mins08:37
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ivoksGentoo users. Like the annoying teenager next door with a 90hp import sporting a 6 foot tall bolt-on wing08:37
Triffid-Hunteryeah i've read the site08:37
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Triffid-Hunterits pretty funny08:37
root1_its FAT3208:37
ivoksTriffid-Hunter well... i don't sit in front of the computer whole day08:37
Triffid-Hunterneither08:37
ivoksi don't have time for compiling08:37
ivoksI do love some stuff on Gentoo08:38
ivoksbut price is too big08:38
lotusleafI put my Gentoo CD in a drawer with a Lindows CD. I hope they mate.08:38
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Myrttidammit08:38
dabaSlonroot1_: sweet, it is mounted as the second hard drive right?08:38
ivoksgentoo is good distro, but for special type of people :)08:38
lotusleafivoks: who wear helmets? :)08:38
root1_dabaSlon yes08:39
ivoks:)08:39
dabaSlonroot1_: is it partitioned?08:39
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darkauditlotusleaf: you get a super-tuned distro that you have to pay $10/month to finish the compile08:39
g14Triffid-Hunter, only 8 hours... I rest my case08:39
root1_dabaSlon no08:39
ivoksi'm in linux since '97.08:39
Triffid-Hunterhehe when i used debian, so much stuff broke that i ended up with a system with 2/3 of its software compiled by hand08:39
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dabaSlonok, create a folder with sudo...08:39
wm_eddieAll distros have their pluses and minuses.  Gentoo's portage has it's good things especially in the hands of people who know what they are doing.08:39
Triffid-Hunterwhich was gentoo methodology but far messier08:39
ivoksTriffid-Hunter yes, on sid... anoying, isn't it?08:39
dabaSlonfor example, /mnt/windows08:39
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ivoksTriffid-Hunter that's why ubuntu is great08:39
dabaSlonor /mnt/fat08:39
wm_eddie/media/08:39
dabaSlonor /mnt/mp308:39
ivoksTriffid-Hunter u get something like debian, but up-to-date08:40
dabaSlonsomething, sure, media08:40
ivoksTriffid-Hunter and there are great tools from MOTU and main D08:40
ivoksthis distro has spirit08:40
dabaSlonso, sudo mkdir /media/mp308:40
dabaSlonor something, you can change it later.08:40
lotusleafOk, I'm gonna start a 56k download of ubuntu. If it finishes before the CDs arrive via shipit, do I win a prize?08:40
Triffid-Hunterlol lotusleaf08:40
ivokslotusleaf man... calculate... 5kb/s08:41
Triffid-Huntershould only take 3 days or so08:41
Triffid-Hunter?08:41
dabaSlonroot1_: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/mp3/ -t vfat -o umask=00008:41
stuNNedlotusleaf: yeah, calculate :P08:41
lotusleafivoks: yeah I know it's a pita but I'm growing weary of using SUSE08:41
ivokslotusleaf u don't have uni somewhere?08:41
dabaSlonafter you are done that, it may work that way.08:41
lotusleafivoks: nope08:41
ivokssuse?!08:41
ivoksomg...08:41
stuNNedlol08:41
Triffid-Hunter5k/sec * 86400 sec/day = 432000k/day ...08:41
stuNNed@ ivoks08:41
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ivokssuse and mandriva are dying pigs08:41
lotusleaflol08:41
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lotusleafbut novell sent me 9.1 for free on DVD08:42
dabaSlonivoks arent you opinionated....08:42
dabaSlon:)08:42
ivoks:))08:42
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dabaSlonyou totally represent, man...08:42
ivokswell08:42
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lotusleafI'd rather drink my own urine than use a distro by the name of mandriva08:42
ivoksi have this problem that admin in my company loved SuSE08:42
ivoksand i camed after him08:42
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ivoksman, that disto sucks :)08:43
bodaciousbis there suck a program that will give more system resources to specific programs? right now im listning to music, downloading kubuntu, and installing cvscedega, and quake3:Arena runs like crap08:43
dabaSlonit is just a distro, a starting point...08:43
captevil-twoHow do I add a SMB share with a space in the filename to /etc/fstab?08:43
ivoksbodaciousb nice, renice08:43
bodaciousbivoks, ?08:43
dabaSlonroot1_: how is that going?08:43
ivokscaptevil-two ?08:43
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Dr_Williscaptevil-two,  i tried to do that once.. and never did figure it out. :P i ended up changeing the share name on the silly windows box.08:44
ivoksbodaciousb renice -p `pidof arena` -1008:44
numbcan someone help in how to configure samba08:44
captevil-twoDr_Willis: I may just do that, then.08:44
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bodaciousbivoks, will do, thanks08:44
ivoksbodaciousb check arena's programname (ps ax | grep arena)08:45
Dr_Willishttp://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/      <-- Free Online book on samba.08:45
dabaSlonroot1_: do you have any other users that you added when you installed Ubuntu?08:45
Dr_Willisof course thers many frontend/gui tools to configure your samba stuff.08:45
root1_dabaSlon, root08:45
ivoksDr_Willis that's not related to samba08:45
bodaciousbivoks, arena has to be running right?08:45
ivoksDr_Willis that's related to fstab08:45
junior_having a problem with ndiswrapper. i have it installed but when i bring up the wlan0 card it wont get an address via dhcp08:45
dabaSlonwell, root...is that the username you chose while installing?08:45
ivoksbodaciousb yes... if it isn't then u have nice command08:45
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admxCan Ext3 be converted to Reiserfs08:46
junior_DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 408:46
Dr_Willisivoks,  yea - i recall that i could mount the name/space from the command.. but never could in fstab.08:46
junior_No DHCPOFFERS received.08:46
junior_No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.08:46
rockshi all, can anyone help me mounting a LVM partition please?08:46
root1_dabaSlon i think i added 2 use , root and root108:46
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bodaciousbivoks, ok08:46
Dr_Willisivoks,  you saying its how the fstab is getting parsed then?08:46
ivoksDr_Willis and other guy:08:46
dabaSlonroot1_: you are weird...why are you naming your users that?08:46
dabaSlonanyhow..08:46
BWGamesis gentoo well maintained WRT security updates?08:47
dabaSlonnot sure, go into your users and groups in System, administration.08:47
ivoksIf the  name  of  the  mount point contains spaces these can be escaped as '\040'08:47
dabaSlonactually, it may not let you addit.08:47
dabaSlonOr open, cause you are not sudo...08:47
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dabaSlonsign in with the other user and try that...08:47
wm_eddieivoks: doesn't '\ ' work?08:47
ivoksall u need is man 5 fstab and search for spaces08:47
ivokswm_eddie this is from man, i didn't try08:47
ivokswm_eddie but that sould work08:47
Triffid-HunterBWGames: yeah they come in fairly regularly08:47
BWGameswhats the best one for security updates?08:48
Triffid-Hunter*bsd08:48
Triffid-Hunter:P08:48
ivoksBWGames gentoo doesn't have security updates08:48
jordanauis there a script to automatically mount windows partitions? If not, I wouldnt mind trying my hand at writing one08:48
ivoksBWGames it works like sarge and sid08:48
dabaSlonbackup _your_data_Linux is best, I think....08:48
ivoksBWGames if there is a bug, they put in a new upstream version08:49
BWGamesI like BSD, but its just a bit different to linux, and i know linux08:49
BWGameshmm08:49
ivoksthey don't have security team08:49
Naliothjordanau, its easy its called "man fstab"08:49
dabaSlonthere is a command, jordan.08:49
ivoksand that's one big - for gentoo08:49
BWGamesinteresting...08:49
jordanauNalioth, no i misspoke, i want the script to edit fstab08:49
ivoksoften new versions break old's one configuration08:49
BWGameshmm08:49
BWGamesnot gentoo then08:49
root1_dabaSlon, Child terminated with 1 status08:49
ivoksubuntu/debian distros fix hols on installed versions08:49
Naliothjordanau, ok, try gedit, nedit, nano, pico, kedit, etc08:50
dabaSlonroot1_: when you do what?08:50
BWGamesSo I should go for Ubuntu/Debian?08:50
ivoksthey backport patches - big big big + for them08:50
dabaSlonyou will not be able to mount until you have sudo access.08:50
ivoksBWGames that's up to you08:50
jordanauNalioth, i am also don't see how man fstab will automatically mount a windows partition, would you mind explaining that to me?08:50
root1_dabaSlon, while i'm trying to login to users and groups08:50
NaliothBWGames, ubuntu imho, is the most useful out-of-the-box distro i've seen08:50
dabaSlonyes, Ubuntu, BWGames08:50
ivoksNalioth i agree08:50
dabaSlonright, yeahm, you do not have root access,08:50
dabaSlonlog out, and log in with the administrator user.08:50
root1_ok08:51
Triffid-Hunteremerge doesn't touch your existing configs but gives you warnings when things change.. so many times debian broke configs on me :(08:51
Naliothjordanau, if you read the man pages on fstab, it will explain how to modify your fstab to mount just about anything your puter can see08:51
ivokswell... u can do that on every distro08:51
ivokswell...08:51
jordanauNalioth, i was being a smartass sorry i should have been more clear again08:51
BWGamesyeah, i like Ubuntu, i tend to use it as a desktop distro, but i want a server distro... i'll probs go for ubuntu, just cause its so easy, and the big community..... now if only i could find a netinstall CD08:51
transgressumm how would you suggest he does that in a distro that locks root...08:51
ivokstime for shower and chicks in bars :)08:51
Dr_Willis:)08:51
bodaciousbivoks, ok grep found the program it came up with quake3 and quake3.x86, how do i modify the renice command? when i try it says old priority 0, new priority 0 and then says process not found08:51
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ivoksbodaciousb renice -p `pidof quake3.x86` -1008:52
ivoksbodaciousb renice -p `pidof quake3` -1008:52
Naliothjordanau, ivoks i am sorry i am not puter literate enough to spout out command like some of these others, but i can send you where you can learn08:52
bodaciousbivoks, ok08:52
ivoksNalioth ?08:53
dabaSlonputer literate08:53
dabaSlon:)08:53
bodaciousbivoks, -10 is a bad value08:53
dabaSlonkaze, oce putera...08:53
Dr_Willisthat sounds 'dirty'08:53
Dr_Willis:P08:53
Naliothjordanau, if you like, i can send you my fstab as a study aid (won't do you any good as its for PPC, but a fstab is a fstab)08:53
ivoksma da?08:53
ivoksbodaciousb ? lol08:53
ivoksbodaciousb try -808:53
dabaSlonivoks, let me ask you something, you from Zagreb?08:53
nevynchanging niceness on 2.6 has radically different characteristics to previous versions of linux.08:53
ivoksbodaciousb ah...08:53
ivoksbodaciousb put sudo in front08:53
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ivoksbodaciousb sudo renice -p `pidof quake3.x86` -1008:54
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jordanauNalioth, my question was are there any scripts that do this, there must not be, thanks for answering my question.08:54
bodaciousbivoks, ok =P08:54
ivoksbodaciousb users can't put so high priority08:54
ivoksdabaSlon yes08:54
dabaSlonjordan, there is a command.08:54
dabaSlonivoks: which part?08:54
ivoksdabaSlon gornja dubrava08:54
dabaSlonI am from Trnje, sigechica, originally.08:54
Amaranth-10 isn't a bad value but X and esd are going to hate you if you put something at -10 and leave them at 008:54
thegreedyturtleafternoon ivokx08:54
dabaSlonOk...08:54
ivoksdabaSlon novi zagreb?08:54
dabaSlonNo, like, autobusni...08:55
ivoksAmaranth f** esd :)08:55
dabaSlonDo you work for any of the computer companies in zZagreb?08:55
jordanaudabaSlon, may i ask what this command is?08:55
ivoksdabaSlon yes08:55
bodaciousbivoks, it still says -10 is bad =P but the priority is currently 008:55
Amaranthivoks: you'd like your sound to skip?08:55
ivoksAmaranth u use esd?08:55
dabaSlonthe mount thing, let me read your question again.08:55
mmichellihi i'm trying to use the "apt-get update" so i can install puredata and all of it's dependencies; but when i do i get an error telling me the key was not present? any idea's08:55
ivokshehe08:55
dabaSlonivoks: which one, then?08:55
Naliothjordanau, why would you need a script? wouldnt' you like your win32 part mounted all the time?08:55
Amaranthivoks: Yes, for the mixing08:55
ivoksAmaranth use alsa for that08:56
Amaranthivoks: It's actually polypaudio in hoary, but still08:56
Amaranthivoks: dmix has issues08:56
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ivoksAmaranth i tried it08:56
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ivoksit needs development08:56
jordanauNalioth, i just wanted to try making a script that will detect a harddrive and edit the fstab for you. A simple one time use script08:56
Amaranthivoks: plus, the code for using esd has been around longer than the code for using alsa08:56
dabaSlonoh, jordan, like a script for automatically mounting window partitions...08:56
ivoksdabaSlon kaj je?!08:56
Naliothmmichelli, this is just telling you it can not be verified via the packagers pgp key08:56
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dabaSlonthere is a file that gets loaded every time you boot.08:56
Naliothjordanau, for external HDs?08:56
ivoksAmaranth but esd is very badly written08:57
jordanaudabaSlon, right fstab08:57
Naliothjordanau, i'm confused08:57
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ricshello08:57
cmg_having an awful time trying to configure X.. it won't create my xorg.conf.. any idea what I can do?08:57
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wm_eddiewho would I contact if I want to mention an interesting program that could replace the Ubuntu Monthly Calendar with something more integrated?08:57
Amaranthivoks: That's debatable but the code for using esd is stable and most of the code for using alsa is of unknown quality08:57
jordanauNalioth, okay, how many people get on this chat everyday trying to mount a windows partition on their new ubuntu install?08:57
ricsIt's my first time running UBUNTU! It's great!08:57
mmichelliNalioth: so i can just ignore it then?08:57
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jordanauNalioth, i want to automate that process for the hell of it08:57
ivoksAmaranth ALSA is here very long...08:57
jordanaurics, congratulations08:57
ivoksAmaranth long before 2.608:57
Dr_Willisactually - it saw all my windows partions i belive.. and i plug in a usb drive and it sees them also.08:58
Amaranthivoks: It'll be better when KDE and GNOME and all the apps for them are using gstreamer though08:58
Nalioth mmichelli if you like. some users are very security concious08:58
cmg_ive setup like a dozen Warty systems and never had a prob with X.. this is my first Hoary install and I am about 4 hours into configuration hell08:58
Amaranthivoks: That doesn't mean apps were targeting it. esd used it and apps used esd08:58
dabaSlonjordan, right, so, what wopuld the script do?08:58
FunraiserI almost install Flight simulator 2004 on Ubuntu...jeez i was almost there08:58
ivoksAmaranth polypaudio will be unique soud server for KDE 4 and Gnome 308:58
mmichelliNalioth: cool, and how do i get it to install all the dependencies?08:58
ricsjordanau, I'm testing everything here!!!08:58
dabaSlonyou mean, like take parameters, and append to the file?08:58
ivoksAmaranth and esd uses alsa :)08:58
nevyncmg_: :(08:59
Amaranthivoks: The sound server doesn't matter, they're both using gstreamer08:59
cmg_this is awful.. i was such a huge Ubuntu supporter until this08:59
wm_eddieFunraiser: MS flight simulator has lots of stuff that stop it from running in Cedega.08:59
wm_eddieunfortunately.08:59
jordanaudabaSlon, yeah, it sees the hard drive, asks you about permissions, and writes the corresponding info to fstab08:59
tritiumcmg_, did you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?08:59
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Amaranthivoks: I know, I'm saying the code for random apps to use alsa is relatively new and sometimes contains nasty bugs while the code for using esd has been around for a long time.08:59
ivoksAmaranth alsa uses gstreamer?!08:59
cmg_trit.. ive ran it well over 50 times now08:59
Amaranthivoks: No, gstreamer uses alsa....08:59
tritiumcmg_, have you edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand?09:00
ivoksAmaranth yeah... i tought u lost ur mind :)09:00
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ricsTem algum do BRASIL aqui?09:00
cmg_i don't know what/how to edit it since I don't have a working version09:00
ivoksbye guys09:00
Naliothjordanau get out your #! /bin/bash pencil and start figgerin09:00
ivokstime to catch some girls :)09:00
Amaranthivoks: KDE 4 and GNONE will/do use gstreamer so the sound server doesn't matter as much. You can use alsa, oss, esd, whatever in gstreamer and the apps shouldn't care.09:00
tritiumcmg_, but did you ever?09:00
Amaranthivoks: bye09:00
cmg_no09:00
cmg_never09:00
ivoksAmaranth that's even better09:00
BWGamesjeez "Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 (a.k.a. woody) was released on 19th of July, 2002. " :|09:00
jordanauNalioth, actually i was thinking about python09:00
Naliothmmichelli, you may have to build from source the dependencys09:00
tritiumcmg_, you need to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors09:01
Funraiserwm_eddie, i didn't know09:01
AmaranthBWGames: I remember when that was new. :/09:01
cmg_i even reinstalled the whole OS from scratch to see if i had a botched setup09:01
Naliothmmichelli, using "apt-get source -b <package_name>"09:01
mmichelliNalioth: oh09:01
ivoksAmaranth mplayer and xine people would need to write something new then :)09:01
dabaSlonjordan, you can try...09:01
BWGamesis debian still a good choice? :/09:01
wm_eddieFunraiser: There's a MUCH better sim out there though.09:01
BWGamesI can't do the Ubuntu install :(09:01
mmichelliNalioth: -b does??09:01
Naliothjordanau, hiss, scribble or pe(a)rl(s),09:01
Amaranthivoks: mplayer and xine suck ;)09:01
Funraiserwm_eddie, it's my first try with cedega, i hope next will be more fortunate09:01
cmg_trit.. one thing I do notice.. when I run xorg reconfigure, I get an error in the terminal09:01
wm_eddieFunraiser: It's called X-Plane check it out.09:01
Naliothmmichelli, -b build09:01
wm_eddieFunraiser: X-Plane has a linux build too.09:02
ivoksAmaranth xine is the best... mplayer... well... it's ok09:02
demantikDoes anybody know where i can get the WMV codec/lib ?09:02
Amaranthivoks: except for wmv3 if gstreamer doesn't support it vlc will do better than mplayer or xine09:02
tritiumcmg_, I don't see your messages to me when you use "trit"09:02
mmichellioh thank you very much i'll try that09:02
mmichelli:)09:02
tritiumcmg_, which error?09:02
cmg_tritium sorry09:02
Naliothmmichelli, i run ubuntu on a iBook, and have had to build several pkgs from source (cuz nobody creates binaries for PPC)09:02
Funraiserwm_eddie, much better? x-plane has the radio talks?09:02
mmichelliNalioth:09:02
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tritiumcmg_, it's okay.  just use tab-completion, please09:02
Amaranthivoks: But I work on a project with a vlc hacker so he might have made be biased. :)09:02
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Funraiserwm_eddie, x-plane is open source or prop?09:02
wm_eddieFunraiser: Although I can't say too much about the way they handle joystick buttons, it might have been fixed by now though.09:02
Naliothwmv3 sux09:02
root1_hi09:02
wm_eddieFunraiser: Proprietary, and Commercial.09:03
AmaranthNalioth: Yes, yes it does.09:03
AmaranthNalioth: h.264 is much better :)09:03
cmg_tritium it says "cp: cannot stat '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' no such file or directory'09:03
dabaSlonhey root1_09:03
wm_eddieFunraiser: It's better in the physics realm.09:03
dabaSlonso, can  you sudo now?09:03
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ivoksaaaaaaaaaaaaa09:03
ivoksbye09:03
NaliothAmaranth, opensource is always better09:03
tritiumcmg_, oh, wow09:03
dabaSlonbye09:03
Funraiserwm_eddie, do u know if there is the radio talking ?09:03
wm_eddieFunraiser: Like flying on MARS!09:03
tritiumcmg_, this is after a fresh install?09:03
wm_eddieFunraiser: They have a fake radio loop.09:03
cmg_tritium, brand new09:03
Funraiserwm_eddie, i'll check09:04
AmaranthNalioth: That isn't true at all. h.264 (and the rest of mpeg4, arguably) is better than theora.09:04
root1_dabaSlon, i tried to log in with the root but i got a message says "you cant login as admin ,,,, from here"09:04
tritiumcmg_, did the install complete without any apparent errors?  It should not leave you without an xorg.conf file09:04
cmg_tritium, but /etc/X11/xorg.conf is right there09:04
Funraiserwm_eddie, the radio is really awesome in FS09:04
NaliothAmaranth, i'm probably lost. h264 is closed?09:04
cmg_tritium, it didn't.. i have one09:04
demantikWhere can i get Luminocity? and has anybody here have anything to say about it ?09:04
Jimmothyi'm having a problem with dvds. i have libdvdcss2, and dvds skip, so i read the wiki and enabled dma, but i get this;  setting using_dma to 1 (on)  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted bout it ?09:04
Jimmothy [20:04:48]  [Jimmothy(+ei)]  [4:#ubuntu(+Pcnt)]  [Act: 2]  [509 / *0 @4 %0 +0 505] 09:04
Jimmothyoops09:04
AmaranthNalioth: It's a part of mpeg4. It's open but patent encumbered.09:04
dabaSlonroot1_: right, you cant login as root, yet, anyhow...have you installed your own ubuntu?09:05
NaliothAmaranth, thats where my confusion was "open but closed"09:05
wm_eddieFunraiser: Yeah but, can you fly in MARS!?09:05
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root1_dabaSlon, yes09:05
Funraiseri'll try Rome Total war next on cedega and swat 409:05
Funraiserjust to check09:05
wm_eddie(And not Mars, PA mind you.  The actual planet)09:05
Amaranthswat 4 was fun for a couple minutes09:05
dabaSlonand you are sure that you chose this exact user when asked to add one during installation?09:05
Amaranththen one of my guys ran in front of me while i was shooting and my partners killed me09:06
root1_dabaSlon, yes09:06
cmg_tritium, any ideas?09:06
demantikroot1 - have you set a root password? changed the default.09:06
tritiumcmg_, are you're not forgetting to use sudo?09:06
Jimmothyany dvd help?09:06
wm_eddiedemantik: don't say stupid things09:06
FunraiserAmaranth, yeah it's fun with friends though09:06
demantiklol09:06
dabaSlonhm...anyone have a clue why a user that was added during installation would not be allowed to sudo, and what to do to go around it?09:06
cmg_tritium, i am running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'  and i am running that from a root terminal09:07
bodaciousbanyone here fimiliar with cvscedega?09:07
dabaSlonJimmothy: the wiki you read, was it the restricted formats one?09:07
Funraiserwell u can have a root password, different from the user (sudo) password09:07
JimmothydabaSlon: yes09:07
dabaSlonok, just checking.09:07
dabaSlon:)09:07
tritiumcmg_, that sounds very odd.  I need to go for a while.  Will you be around later/09:07
tritium?09:08
wm_eddieFunraiser: Yeah but, if you are going to stick to the Ubuntu way of doing things, no root is better.09:08
dabaSlonFunraiser: and that is not the one that is used when you sudo, though...09:08
cmg_tritium, ok.. thanks anyways09:08
dabaSlonand that tells me nothing btw on what to do...09:08
JimmothydabaSlon: the dma thing isn't working, so my movie jerks and gradually unsyncs09:08
tritiumcmg_, I'll look for you when I get back.09:08
cmg_tritium, thanks09:08
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cmg_having an awful time trying to configure X.. it won't create my xorg.conf.. any idea what I can do?09:08
IcemanV9cmg_: try to run command in non-root (normal) terminal09:08
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cmg_IcemanV9, ok.. i'll try.. im desparate at this point09:09
Funraiseri hope more and more people will use cedega, linux needs more games09:09
IcemanV9cmg_: understood. i was like that earlier this week. :)09:09
dabaSlonok, I know, root1_09:10
bodaciousbFunraiser, i hope no one buys cedega09:10
dabaSlonyou know your root password?09:10
dabaSlonwell, anyhow, we can try..09:10
Funraiserbodaciousb, well the source code is available09:10
NaliothFunraiser, why do you wish cedega for linux to get more games?09:10
bodaciousbFunraiser, and i for one am boycotting windows games, i will not buy another one that is not linux native09:10
dabaSlonroot1_: ok, to switch terminals. you can hold down alt+ctrl, and then hit f1for example...09:10
Nalioththe game coders need to release more for linux for us to have more games09:10
bodaciousbFunraiser, so hopefully in the future there will be no need for cedega09:10
wm_eddieFunraiser: People just need to let the companies know that they use Linux and would appreciate perhaps a native linux port of a game.09:10
root1_dabaSlon ok09:11
dabaSlonroot1_: 1-6 are just terminals, and f7-onward are GUIs.09:11
dabaSlonso, alt+ctrl+f1 will take you to a terminal, and try signing in as root.09:11
dabaSlonand to come back09:11
cmg_IcemanV9, same thing happened09:11
Funraiserthat's the egg and the chicken thing...more games > more people > more games09:11
dabaSlonhit alt+ctrl+f709:11
wm_eddieThe more people do that, the more companies will pay attention.09:11
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ricsEnemy Territory is just fine for me! Don't need more games! heheheh09:11
ricslol09:11
dabaSlonhopefully in the future you will stop wasting your time on games:-P09:12
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bodaciousbrics, i have that but i cant get it to work, it looked really fun though09:12
metalsandwow09:12
IcemanV9cmg_: w0w. ok.09:12
Funraiseri can't boycotte windows games...one can't boycott splinter cell chaos...this is genius work09:12
metalsandThe police just came to my house09:12
ricsbodaciousb, never tried in linux! But its the best game ever!!!09:12
metalsandto my door09:12
metalsandinto my room09:12
mmichellican anyone direct me to a good dvd ripping program that a noob like me can install09:12
cmg_IcemanV9, is there another way to configure X?09:12
dabaSlonhaha metalsand. I knew you were troubled...09:13
wm_eddiemmichelli: dvdrip09:13
root1_dabaSlon, ok i logged in so09:13
dabaSlonwith your 2 wireless cards in one laptop...09:13
wm_eddieget it on synaptic09:13
IcemanV9cmg_: yes. 'Xorg -configure'09:13
dabaSlonok, so you are root?09:13
metalsandrofl09:13
cmg_this is crazy.. i've never had a prob with any distro on this box.. including Warty09:13
metalsandDaba, wasn't anything about that :P09:13
dabaSlonroot1_: you are root on that console?09:13
cmg_IcemanV9, ok.. let me try that09:13
bodaciousbrics, nice.... i have a suspicion that my router is to blame... but yeah it looked like a fps where you level up and stuff like an rpg =)09:13
root1_dabaSlon, yes09:13
metalsandThey actually mentioned that when they saw a 10 dBI omni antenna connected to my laptop on my bed09:13
dabaSlonsweet...09:13
dabaSlonadd that folder now finally.09:13
IcemanV9cmg_: u have to kill X & gdm 1st, then run the command09:13
Funraiserif there was a way the games would play easily...linux would be mainstream already09:13
dabaSlonmkdir /media/mp309:13
dabaSlonor something.09:14
cmg_IcemanV9, how do I do that?09:14
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Funraiserwell gota go09:14
mmichellianybody know a good dvd ripping program that's new user friendly? please09:14
ricsbodaciousb, you have diferente abilities to choose in the game... Engineer, soldier, covert ops...09:14
root1_dabaSlon, ok ,, ?09:14
SlavenI have a situation here. :O09:14
Funraisersee ya09:14
ricsbodaciousb, its pretty fun09:14
IcemanV9cmg_: /etc/init.d/gdm stop09:14
bodaciousbFunraiser, it is easy, ive been on linux for a week =P theres just not enough developers making linux games09:14
cmg_k09:14
IcemanV9cmg_: then logout09:14
bodaciousbID software rocks.... always has09:14
no0tichow to enable postfix startup at boot?09:14
demantikHow do i get access to the gnome cvs ?09:14
SlavenSeems I need libqt3-mt. Yet, installing it threatens removing all my qt packages.09:15
IcemanV9cmg_: then you're back to login prompt terminal.09:15
bodaciousbdemantik, sudo apt-get install cvs?09:15
wm_eddiemmichelli: I don't think there are any in existance.09:15
dabaSlonadded it I suppose...09:15
dabaSlon?09:15
wm_eddiemmichelli: Every program I used was really complicated.09:15
root1_dabaSlon yup09:15
demantikno no..i have cvs installed...but how do i get a pass...to the gnome cvs...maybe im not getting something...but i cant login.09:15
cmg_IcemanV9, ok im there.. at the login09:15
mmichelli: that's too bad ,09:15
SlavenBecause I guess it replaces some other libqt-package or something.09:15
dabaSlonmount /dev/hdb /media/mp3-t vfat -o umask=00009:16
IcemanV9cmg_: run 'Xorg -configure' .. you should have a new xorg.conf09:16
cmg_k09:16
dabaSlonif that is the directory name you created.09:16
bodaciousbdemantik, oh i dont know about the gnome cvs, but usually passwords are cvs =)09:16
SlavenCan I like get libqt3-mt in there, seemlessly? ;)09:16
demantikhmm ok09:16
dabaSlonwe have to tweak that now...09:16
mmichelliwm_eddie: i was hoping to get something like i used before cloneDVD09:16
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wm_eddiemmichelli: wxvlc might be pretty easy for a noob to use.09:16
wm_eddiemmichelli: do you have a URL to that?09:16
demantikim just trying to get jhbuild...which i need to get luminocity..09:16
cmg_IcemanV9, do i have to do sudo?09:16
IcemanV9cmg_: yes.09:17
cmg_k09:17
mmichelliwent to google, sure i'll find it09:17
mmichellithank you09:17
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[ADULT_SWIM] anyone know how to pump out an error ist in cedega?09:18
cmg_IcemanV9, missing output drivers, configuration failed09:18
[ADULT_SWIM] i'm testing a game and it's not running right09:18
lotusleafCool, only 23 hours left in my ubuntu download ;)09:18
bodaciousbis anyone in here using cvscedega?09:18
dabaSlonroot1_: mine worked09:18
dabaSlonyours09:18
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dabaSlon?09:18
[ADULT_SWIM] whats cvscedega?/09:18
[ADULT_SWIM] i'm usin cedega09:18
IIIEarsit is a windows emulatoe09:18
[ADULT_SWIM] not shure about the cvs part though09:18
bodaciousb[ADULT_SWIM] , the cvs(free) version of cedega =)09:18
dabaSlonheh09:18
[ADULT_SWIM] oh09:19
dabaSloncurrent versioning system09:19
IcemanV9cmg_: man. ur the second person who have that error msg today. for that one, i do not know why it happened.09:19
dabaSlonprobably the most up to date version, unstable??09:19
[ADULT_SWIM] i don't know what version i'm usin a freind gave me mine09:19
IcemanV9cmg_: looks like i have a homework to find that dang solution.09:19
cmg_IcemanV9, damn.. i'm screwed09:19
root1_dabaSlon, nope09:19
bodaciousbim having probs getting it to work properly, im thinking that it requires Wine to be installed also, but im not sure09:19
dabaSlonok, error?09:19
[ADULT_SWIM] i was tryin to test a version of ragnarok but it keeps crashing09:19
demantikwhat form do cvs releases come in?....source?...09:19
dabaSlontry making it this exactly....09:20
[ADULT_SWIM] how to get cedega to put out an error list?09:20
IcemanV9cmg_: however, tritium is right. it shouldn't happen when you fresh install the ubuntu.09:20
dabaSlonsudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/mp3/ -t vfat -o umask=00009:20
dabaSlonwithout sudo09:20
IcemanV9cmg_: let me google a bit ..09:20
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cmg_IcemanV9, i've done 2 installs of it.. same thing both times09:20
dabaSlonmount /dev/hda1 /media/mp3/ -t vfat -o umask=00009:20
dabaSlonexactly as it says there.09:20
dabaSlonI mounted mine.09:20
bodaciousbdemantik, cvs is cedega 3.30 i think, but its a program ready to rock.... allthough i am using a scrip off of linux-gamers.org, so it may come as a source, and this script isdoing the dirty work for me09:20
dabaSlonalthough it is a little different, but yours should work...09:20
cmg_IcemanV9, MUCH appreciated.. I'm like 10 mins away from downloading Fedora :(09:21
demantikahh alright09:21
dabaSlonI gotta go get smokes at the corner store, ETA 10ish minutes...09:21
[ADULT_SWIM] so anyone have an idea?09:21
bodaciousbi jsut want to run steam in linux,  if i can accomplish that i have absolutely no need for my windows partition09:21
cmg_IcemanV9, i was happy on Warty but I fried my hard disk yesterday and am fixing it.. figured it would be a great time to try Hoary09:21
[ADULT_SWIM] use cedega09:21
root1_dabaSlon, /dev/hdb already mounted or /media/mp3 busy09:22
demantiksteam isnt something anybody really WANTS to run though is it :(09:22
[ADULT_SWIM] i run counterstrike on it09:22
bodaciousbhehe09:22
dabaSlonok, umount /media/mp309:22
bodaciousbwell my prob is cvscedega steam_install.exe throws error after error at me09:22
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dabaSlonthen try the last one I gavge you, and that should work...09:22
dabaSlonif not, umount again. and try hdb0...09:22
dabaSlonor soemthing, tweak it a little while I go get somekes, and then thank me when I come back:)09:23
bodaciousbim installing wine to go with it... and im hoping htat cvscedega requires it... because i did get that impression from linux-gamers.org forums09:23
bodaciousband dx9wine is next09:23
dabaSlonI think that is a good plan...09:23
dabaSlonIm skateboarding to the store, so Ill brb.09:24
IcemanV9cmg_: Hoary is great, really. it really does work on my two laptops.09:24
demantikhows dx9 performance vs opengl with wine/cedega?09:24
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macarthyhi all09:24
bodaciousbdemantik, i havnt a clue, i havent sucessfully ran anything on cedega or wine yet09:24
bodaciousballthough i have linux native ut2k3 installed now, and i cant wait to compare it to the cedega/wine install of it09:25
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demantikmy pc is too slow to run much lol..ive tried with the small selection of games i have. i got one or two games to run..very slowly.09:25
macarthyjust installed ubuntu 64 bit - what is the story with mono development packages?09:25
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lotusleafbodaciousb: if you try the jedi outcast demo via wine you can use cheat codes to make stormtroopers appear in a Christ crucified pose, flying in the air and shooting yellow laser beams and other fun stuff.09:25
bodaciousbim running a radeon 9800 pro09:25
cmg_IcemanV9, i'm psyched to use it.. I loved Warty.. I just need to get this X hell fixed09:25
veruushow can I add a new user with permissions to use sudo, or how can I edit permissions for a new user to use sudo?09:25
bodaciousblotusleaf, sweet09:25
ricsHi, anyone can help me with the monitor resolution, please?09:25
ricsI want to set the resolution to work with 85Hz but I cant...09:26
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narkonehi09:26
narkoneany spanish09:26
narkone?09:27
demantikanybody have a good guide to installing fglrx on ubuntu hoary?...suse was easy...not successful yet with this..09:27
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Naliothnarkone, en el #ubuntu-es09:27
anto9usveruus, in "Users and Groups" click user and properties then User Privilages09:27
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narkonethanks09:27
rainerHi everybody, I need help!!!!09:27
angiehello there09:27
demantikati...installation help...?09:27
cmg_IcemanV9, any ideas yet?09:28
bodaciousbwhat do you need dem?09:28
angiehaving a cpu usage issue with cdrecord... any help?09:28
rainerNo recovery help09:28
demantikwhat really is the point of the ati fglrx package available with synaptic...they dont work lol.09:28
bodaciousbim new to linux and i suck horribly but ive installed ati like 20 times now =P09:28
tritiumcmg_, I'm back09:28
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veruusanto9us: I was hoping for commanline, but I got it straightened out09:29
demantikbodaciousb - maybe some help then..09:29
veruusthanks09:29
bodaciousbdemantik, shoot09:29
cmg_tritium, cool.. Iceman was trying to help.. he told me try running Xorg -configure09:29
angiewith k3b or xcdroast cpu get progressively full... I did not have this problem with straight debian09:29
rainerI wanted to write an email to ubuntu mailing list when my system just did power down out of the blue09:29
cmg_tritium, and that errors out09:29
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tritiumdemantik, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto09:29
Naliothrainer, heatsink goin bye-bye?09:29
demantikalright thanks09:29
cmg_tritium, so i'm stuck :(09:29
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rainerNo the Powerbook wasn't overheating, I just had in on for 10 minutes09:30
anto9usangie: I noticed that too, I think it's something to do with being on a 2.6 kernel09:30
tritiumcmg_, hmm...which architecture and video card?09:30
rainerand also the power couldn't be the reason, the akku is full loaded and power suplly is connected09:30
bodaciousbdemantik, whats your question?09:30
angieanto9us: it's a f***ing shame... were you able to fix it?09:30
Naliothrainer, ah powerbook. no heat probs there09:30
anto9usangie: no, it at least worked and I have other priorities :)09:31
cmg_tritium, its a Dell optiplex.. x86..  integrated video (intel i810)09:31
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Naliothrainer, i run ubuntu on my old iBook, its great not heating the house in winter09:31
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angieanto9us: nice for you... for me making backups it's really important09:31
ricsSorry, I close the window09:31
tritiumcmg_, hmm, that shouldn't really be giving you such trouble09:31
krusbjornhave i gotten this right? i can run the ubuntu "intel x86" version on my AMD64 cpu, right? things are unstable, and i'm too new to linux to set up chroot and stuff...09:31
demantikbodacious...i just tried simply installing the ati packages via synaptic...which was stupid...didnt do anything but make me have to change my xorg.conf..09:32
demantiklol09:32
tritiumkrusbjorn, yes09:32
krusbjorntritium: thanks :)09:32
demantikill read through and try the page i just got.09:32
tritiumdemantik, did you see the URL I sent you?09:32
IcemanV9cmg_: no idea as of now .. hope tritium have something more09:32
demantikyes09:32
demantikreading now09:32
demantikthanks09:32
cmg_tritium, i know.. ive ran like 20 different distros on this box.. and Warty worked great for me.. Hoary just hates me09:32
ricsWhy can't I setup my monitor to work in 85Hz?09:32
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rainerNalioth: my problem is that my whole desktop is screwed up, and I don't know what else....09:32
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rainerbonobo won''t start up is the message I get09:33
dabaSlonroot1_: mounted yet?09:33
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bodaciousbdemantik, sorry i didnt see your question earlier, i was waiting fo ryou to ask me =P09:33
IcemanV9rics: check out the xorg.conf to see if 85Hz is in the range or not09:33
Naliothrainer, how old is the powerbook (not that that is gonna make any diff to me) ubuntu installed on my G3/600 iBook just fine09:33
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demantikits ok..09:33
dabaSlonNalioth: that is cause you dont have the extreme card...09:34
rainerNalioth 5 years now, a Pismo (G3 Powerbook Firewire), didn't have any troubles till today09:34
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tonyhi i need help to install java09:34
NaliothdabaSlon, that is why ubuntu is not on my new 12" iBook G409:34
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dabaSlontony, what java do you want to install?09:34
bodaciousbdemanix use the following 3 commands :  sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx    :   depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx        :         sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:35
Naliothrainer, ah so it's something that changed09:35
tritiumcmg_, I'm thinking...09:35
RastaMahatatony, go to the howto forum09:35
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tonyjre-1_5_0_02-linux-i586.bin09:35
ricsIcemanV9, where can I find this file?09:35
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dabaSlonthat is easy...09:35
tritiumtony, use java-package09:35
anto9usdemantik: you need the linux-restricted-modules09:35
RastaMahatatony, why dont you download the deb package from backports?09:35
IcemanV9rics: /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:35
dabaSlonthere is a walkthrough, where did you get the file?09:35
dabaSlonSUn's site?09:35
tonywhere can i find the pacage?09:35
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bodaciousbdemantik, sorry i adressed the wrong person =) look up a bit, but thats installs it for me no prob at all09:35
RastaMahatabackports.ubuntuforums.org09:35
[ADULT_SWIM] are there any other critters you can get for amor?/09:35
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wnightsmbiod (?) is taking 95% of my cpu - what is it and why is it doing this?09:36
tonydon't know backports?09:36
tritiumtony, you already have the .bin from Sun.  Use java-package to build a .deb from it.09:36
wnightRelated to SMB I guess...09:36
macarthytony: somethings like http://www.maccarthy.org/blog/2004/09/08/installing-java-onto-debian/09:36
rainerNalioth: can't say what, I didn't change anything, ok last night there was an update and I installed cinepaint, but that shouldn't be a problem, or?09:36
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tritiumtony, essentiall, Method 3: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java09:36
tritiumessentially, that is ;)09:36
Naliothrainer, sorry i know next-to-nothing about display/X issues09:36
root1_dabaSlon, according to mtab /dev/hda1 already mounted09:36
macarthytony: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/MonoDevelopmentHowto09:36
dabaSlonhda, yes...09:36
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dabaSlonthats this hard disk.09:36
RastaMahatatritium, I was never able to do those instructions as they were written for warty09:37
dabaSlonhdb is gonna be the otehr one09:37
RastaMahata:(09:37
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macarthyare there no mono libs for ubuntu 64 bit?09:37
dabaSlontony, it is pretty easy, as long as you follow some steps.09:37
tritiumRastaMahata, essentially, you can just install java-package, and follow its documentation09:37
root1_dabaSlon, ok so,,09:37
macarthymonodev I should say09:37
ricsIcemanV9, Section "monitor" right?09:37
RastaMahatatony, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports/dists/hoary-extras/restricted/binary-i386/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update02_i386.deb09:37
ricsIcemanV9, Where can I found more info on how do configure this file? Just edit this with my monitors settings?09:38
demantikthanks guys09:38
demantikbrb09:38
dabaSlonwhat was the last command you tried, and have you tried mount /dev/hdb1 /media/mp3/ -t vfat -o umask=00009:38
tritiumRastaMahata, you're pointing him down the path to the dark side09:38
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rainerNalioth: it's ok, just wanted to give a try ... I just love my ubuntu, but probably this issue says I should take the weekend off and relax and don't mind about computer problems any more09:38
dabaSlontony, I would just unpack the files, move them to a folder...09:38
cmg_tritium, is it a problem with X you think?  can i get a newer version?09:38
dabaSlonand link them to /bin...09:38
Naliothrainer sounds good, and something may come to mind while you're relaxing09:38
RastaMahatatritium, new users should know linux is usable without the command line already ;)09:38
IcemanV9rics: do u see HorizSync? VertRefresh?09:38
tritiumcmg_, no, I don't believe it's a problem with X.org.  Many people are using it successfully with your chipset09:38
dabaSlonand add the plugin to firefox, and add a JAVA_HOME variable.09:39
NaliothRastaMahata, yes it is, but the terminal is still my best friend09:39
tonyi tried to move them09:39
IcemanV9rics: man xorg.conf :)09:39
dabaSlonI would not go about any crazy backports, or converions...09:39
tritiumRastaMahata, backports are unadvisable, particularly when it comes to upgrading to new releases09:39
rainerNatlioth: That's true, thanks anyway! See you! Ciao!09:39
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RastaMahatatritium, that's ben fixed already09:39
RastaMahatabeen, too09:39
tritiumRastaMahata, still an issue09:39
dabaSlontony, this site gives a walkthrough that is good enough for me personally: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre09:39
cmg_tritium, I'm not positive I have intel i810.. but that is what x.org is detecting.. should I open my case to verify?09:39
root1_dabaSlon, yes i tried it and its says according to mtab ,,,, is already mounted09:39
wnightlsof is freezing! I need some help with this.09:40
dabaSlonhm...for hdb?09:40
ricsIcemanV9, Yes, I see it! :) But in my monitors manual I only have reference to a refresh rate of 85 (at least 75)09:40
tritiumcmg_, no, try lspci, but don't open the box.09:40
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lotusleafit's easy to upgrade ubuntu to newer versions without having to perform fresh installs, right?09:40
RastaMahatatritium, installing java for me was as easy as apt-getting in... the firefox plugin was a command away.. :)09:40
root1_dabaSlon, yes09:41
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demantikBACK!...appears to be working09:41
IcemanV9rics: ok. what's the nbr stated in xorg.conf then?09:41
tonytx dabaslon09:41
tritiumRastaMahata, java-package is simple to use.  The real issue is that Sun's licensing prohibits java from being included in an official repo09:41
demantikthat was easy...09:41
cmg_tritium, it says intel 82810E.. that is intel i810?09:41
tritiumcmg_, yep09:41
RastaMahatatritium, backports isnt official09:41
dabaSlonroot1_: locate *.mp3 may tell you where the files are, if really mounted...09:41
Naliothlotusleaf, yes09:41
tritiumRastaMahata, I know09:41
lotusleafNalioth: thx ;-)09:42
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dabaSlonwelcome tony, those are known to work...09:42
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NaliothdabaSlon, doesnt that depend on how long its been mounted?09:42
dabaSlonnot sure.09:42
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ricsIcemanV9, sorry, cant understand what nbr means... :(09:42
Scorpionwhat's a good media player for divx, ogm, mp3 etc...09:42
Naliothlotusleaf, then get on the ubuntu wagon!09:42
transgressokay i'm looking at getting a wireless pci card for my desktop... anyone have any suggestions as to what type would be most linux friendly...09:42
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ricsIcemanV9, I'm from Brasil... :(09:43
IcemanV9rics: number .. what did it said?09:43
IcemanV9rics: sorry. :)09:43
tonyit 's connecting now09:43
Naliothlotusleaf, two words "smart upgrade"09:43
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root1_dabaSlon, nothing there09:43
cmg_tritium, should I try to hack my xorg.conf by hand?  since reconfigure isnt working?09:43
dabaSlonroot1_: does your umount work when you umount /media/mp3?09:43
HoxzerIs there any software for linux that I can use for connect between my self phone and PC ?09:43
tritiumcmg_, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors before you do that09:43
lotusleafNalioth: I am, I'm downloading ubuntu via 56k! :)09:44
Hoxzer"connecting"09:44
root1_dabaSlon, yes09:44
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Hoxzersso....09:44
IcemanV9rics: like VertRefresh     70-9009:44
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wnightj #mandrake09:44
demantikAnybody know of any good NATIVE linux games?09:44
cmg_tritium, what should I belooking for?09:44
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lotusleafNalioth: now, if my download finishes before shipit sends the CDs, I hope I win a prize. ;)09:44
dabaSlonmi9ne does not.09:44
dabaSlonlet me see09:44
anto9usdemantik: tux racer09:44
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demantikLOL09:44
demantikscrew tux racer09:44
root1_dabaSlon, i just want to use my other hd09:44
zerokarmaleftdemantik, gnugo, gnuchess, and nethack09:45
transgressarmagetron09:45
lotusleafdemantik: Enemy Territory09:45
forsaker8k6hi people09:45
tritiumcmg_, any errors (EE)09:45
demantiki havent played it, but Savage looks alright09:45
transgressut2k409:45
macarthy64bit ubuntu and beagle/mono = problem????09:45
demantikyeah i played enemy territory....its good..will have to reinstall that,09:45
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lotusleafdemantik: Enemy Territory is the best, IMO :)09:45
dabaSloni know root, that is what you are trying to do...09:45
bodaciousbdemantik, did you get the driver running?09:45
lotusleafdemantik: be sure to grab the upgrade patch that was released this year for it09:45
demantikyeah i did!09:45
zerokarmaleftmacarthy, amd64 support is fixed in mono 1.1.x09:46
demantikalright lotusleaf09:46
root1_dabaSlon, its on other hd no that one i used to install ubntu09:46
lotusleafdemantik: there's also America's Army09:46
bodaciousbdemantik, nice, if you ever feel you want to loose some hair, try installing that ins suse =)09:46
sylvananyone know something about getting sound working?09:46
queuetueDoes anyone have a favorite strategy game on linux?  I'm looking something to really sink my teeth into...09:46
transgressdemantik: don't forget ut2k409:46
demantikbodacious...i DID INSTALL in Suse ;)09:46
dabaSlonright, the first hard drive(master) will be hda, then the second one will be hdb...09:46
cmg_tritium, i see one warning (Open APM Failed).. and then the last line says "Missing output drivers. Configuration failed"09:46
macarthyzerokarmaleft, is that in a sources rep somewhere?09:46
dabaSlonhdb0, hdb1, and so on for the partitions...09:46
transgressi hate america's army... and any game that requires you do the walkthrough before playing09:46
Naliothlotusleaf, you are THE man!09:46
bodaciousbdemantik, i did once, and i tried 3 times, i couldnt figure it out last time09:46
lotusleafqueuetue: nethack ;P09:46
dabaSlonyou have no partitions, and such, you just need a good mount command, unless it is already mounted, which would be strange.09:47
queuetuelotusleaf, Good idea.09:47
lotusleafNalioth: why, what did I do? :P09:47
demantikLOL...u want a page with instructiosn bodaciousb?09:47
demantikill see if i can find it if u want09:47
zerokarmaleftmacarthy, jdong is working on backporting it09:47
bodaciousbdemantik, im sure ive been there....09:47
tonytx java is working09:47
demantikhmm alright09:47
macarthyzerokarmaleft, by backporting you mean ?09:47
tritiumtony, which method did you use?09:47
bodaciousbdemantik, but it doesnt matter now, im on ubuntu =P09:47
demantikgood point ;)09:48
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tonythe one you gave me09:48
demantiksay...are there any special things to turn on/off in the ati config file?09:48
demantikany tweaking to be done09:48
zerokarmaleftmacarthy, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org09:48
root1_brb09:48
demantikive never really played around with it...09:48
dabaSlonroot1_: when you  "mount /dev/hdb1 /media/mp3/ -t vfat -o umask=000" exactly as shown here, you gget a mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /media/mp3 busy09:48
tritiumtony, Method 3 with java-package?  nice ;)09:48
dabaSlon error?09:48
bodaciousbdemantik, i use it as is... works great for me09:48
zerokarmaleftmacarthy, mono packaging issues will be fixed for hoary+109:48
demantikthe FSAA doesnt work though, does it....?09:48
tonyyes thank you09:48
demantikyeah i never had problems, was just wondering09:49
bodaciousbdemantik, let me know if you find something good though =)09:49
demantikalright then09:49
tonyi spend the whole afternoon on it :(09:49
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zerokarmaleftmacarthy, other option is to build mono/beagle dependencies/beagle from source yourself09:49
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cmg_tritium, I'm just gonna reinstall Warty.. at least I know that works.  what a dissapointment09:49
dabaSlonyeah, that may be the best way, so what get a bin, and what then, tritium?09:49
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tonyno trying to get azareus working09:50
IcemanV9cmg_: if u do reinstall Warty, then try to save xorg.conf and try it on Hoary09:50
lotusleafjust the sound of it: "mandriva" is enough to provoke anal puckering09:50
zerokarmaleftlotusleaf, lol09:50
dabaSloncmg_: did you add repositories to your sources list before upgradeing?09:50
dabaSlonno e09:50
IcemanV9cmg_: i mean, come on. it should work in Hoary with xorg.conf (from Warty), u know?09:50
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cmg_dabaSlon, I didnt upgrade.. it was a fresh install09:51
FlyingSquirrel32Anyone know of a program that will record a message from a phone line like an answering machine?09:51
dabaSlona fresh install of Hoary?09:51
dabaSlonok.09:51
cmg_dabaSlon, yes09:51
dabaSlonjeust cehcking, mine had that issue hen upgrading,09:51
macarthyzerokarmaleft, when is hoary+1 due, new to ubuntu09:51
dabaSlontypos typos...09:52
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zerokarmaleftmacarthy, hoary was just released...breezy will be out in october09:52
cmg_IcemanV9, I have a warty box here.. it doesnt have an /etx/X11/xorg.conf09:52
macarthyoctober, ok09:52
anto9usFlyingSquirrel32: via modem?09:52
FlyingSquirrel32macarthy: the ubuntu releases come out every 6 months09:52
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dabaSloncmg_: you can also give it some time, guys like crimsun, bob2, and some others may know how to fix it..09:53
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orhshey all09:53
IcemanV9cmg_: that's right. it doesn't use Xorg09:53
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dabaSlonhey orhs09:53
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cmg_I'm gonna install Warty again.. I guess I'll try again in October :(09:54
FlyingSquirrel32anto9us: sorry for the delay, yes.09:54
BrunellusProblem:  ndiswrapper works when I boot in the 2.6.8 kernel, but not in the 2.6.10 kernel09:54
IcemanV9cmg_: dang. sorry.09:54
dabaSlonsoultion: boot the 2.6.8 kernel....09:54
dabaSlon:-P09:54
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BogoMIPSHey - I've just used ndiswrapper to install some drivers...09:54
Brunellusahahahahaah.  correct, dabaSlon09:54
tritiumdabaSlon, I'm sorry, someone came in my office.  What was your question about?09:55
wnightLSOF is freezing when I try to run it. I need to run it to find out what using a SMB mount which died, so that I can unmount it so I can restart samba, which appears broken.09:55
Brunellusbut I was wondering why this might be so09:55
wnightLSOF is freezing when I try to run it. I need to run it to find out what using a SMB mount which died, so that I can unmount it so I can restart samba, which appears broken.09:55
dabaSlondont remember09:55
tritiumcmg_, we should be able to resolve this...09:55
wnightLSOF is freezing when I try to run it. I need to run it to find out what using a SMB mount which died, so that I can unmount it so I can restart samba, which appears broken.09:55
dabaSlonscroll up09:55
anto9usFlyingSquirrel32: vgetty is ubiquitous tool for that I think09:55
kjuuIs it possible that Ubuntu doesn't support my SATA-hard drive?09:55
cmg_tritium, ive been doing this install for 7 hours now :)09:55
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anto9usFlyingSquirrel32: package is mgetty-voice09:55
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tritiumcmg_, I'm sorry, buddy09:55
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FlyingSquirrel32anto9us: What we really want is a server so the attornys in my firm can dictate over the phone, and the file can be sent be e-mail.09:55
dabaSlonorhs, are you in norway?09:56
demantikWMV + Totem = How? where do i get the wmv lib, or what is the name of it09:56
Brunellusare there any known issues with ndiswrapper-1.0 and the 2.6.10 kernel?09:56
dabaSlonkjuu: are you in finalnd?09:56
cmg_tritium, i have to go but will be back in a while.. if you think of anything, let me know09:56
kjuudabaSlon: yes09:56
dabaSlonsweet09:56
Fator_Deedemantik: fron marillat, w32codecs09:56
dabaSlonjust checking...09:56
anto9usFlyingSquirrel32: vgetty will do that, you can have multiple mail boxes and menu system, very clever setup09:56
Fator_Dee*fron = from09:56
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demantikthanks09:56
tritiumcmg_, okay, take care09:57
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thenukedemantik: http://ubuntuguide.org/ keep that site in mind09:57
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demantikalright cool..09:58
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zoddani love ubuntu it have full support for my WLAN :)09:58
wnightLSOF is freezing on me, I need LSOF to find what's using a SMB share so I can stop it, so that I can unmount the share and stop samba, which isn't working. Why isn't LSOF working?09:58
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demantikAnybody know what kinda damn computer will be needed to properly play the next UT? Lol09:59
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Fator_Deefast one09:59
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demantikSMART ;)09:59
dabaSlonkjuu: where have you looked so far?09:59
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Fator_Deehey, I answered you question ;-)09:59
IcemanV9debiannoob: enjoying the new screen resolution?09:59
Scorpionim trying to install glib, but it doesn't seem to work, get alot of warnings after typing make10:00
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kjuudabaSlon: I've tried installing Ubuntu but it fails when it gets to the part about partitions10:00
Scorpioni need glib to install anoter software10:00
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demantikScorpion...is it not there in Synaptic?10:01
occytritium: Is there a new or updated howto on Hoary with nvidia?  With the default Hoary nvidia drivers and kernel, my system keeps locking up.10:01
robertjheya all, anyone know of an 8-port SATA RAID controller that plays nice wth linux?10:01
kjuuand I can't see my excisting partitions using ubuntu live10:01
Zorixubuntu 5.04 amd64 and wine.. how can this be don effectively10:01
dabaSlonso, has the same hard drive worked in another distro?10:01
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sbcl3i need an apache web server with php, mysql, and phpmyadmin10:01
tritiumScorpion, you need libglib2.0-dev10:01
Scorpionsorry new to linux, whats Synaptic10:01
sbcl3what is the easiest way to do this?10:01
sbcl3is it synaptic?10:02
kjuudabaSlon: at least in fedora core 4 and knoppix10:02
tritiumZorix, not on amd6410:02
sbcl3scorpion: its a package manager10:02
Scorpionoki, where do i get libglib2.0-dev10:02
demantikyup10:02
Zorixtritium what about chroot10:02
dabaSlonkjuu: it should work then, I guess...10:02
tritiumZorix, possibly, though I can't confirm10:02
kjuudabaSlon: it should but it won't :(10:02
dabaSlonnot really possible that it does not support your hard drive...10:02
Zorixtritium, will this be supported in the future?10:02
kjuudabaSlon: neither does Mandrake, btw10:02
demantikopen Synaptic Packet Manager in Ubuntu... do a search...fairly easy to use program...might be tehre.10:02
dabaSlonthat is what I mean.10:02
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weazle-10:03
dabaSlonoh, ic..10:03
tonyis there a program like mirc to download files ?10:03
tritiumZorix, I don't think so -- that's a wine issue, not an ubuntu issue, though10:03
dabaSlon??10:03
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BogoMIPSFator_Dee, marillat: Hi, I'm also trying to install codecs, for xine/totem/xmms. I went to the freshly built rpms site linked to by xine, and converted the rpms to debs with alien. Installed them, but still can't get sound in some .avi files. Is there a place I can get a working w32codecs dbm?10:03
Zorixtritium, thanks for your help10:03
demantiktony = u can download with X-Chat...10:03
sbcl3oh, i guess i'll just try the package manager10:03
tritiumZorix, sure10:03
tonycool10:03
Fator_DeeBogoMIPS: I think it's not because of the codecs10:03
lotusleafIMO mandriva sounds like a new public lice organism originating on the planet mars10:04
lotusleafpubic*10:04
Fator_DeeBogoMIPS: it's a sound config problem, but I don't know what you should do, sorry :-(10:04
tonyi use the site www.ircspy.com10:04
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demantiktony - yes...but xchat to my knowledge, doesnt pick up irc links10:04
demantikso u have to type it in manually :(10:04
BogoMIPSFator_Dee: Ah, thanks for that.10:04
tonyyes and that is what i need10:05
Fator_DeeBogoMIPS: but why didn't you install the w32codecs from marillats repository?10:05
demantikanybody know how to get xchat to take irc links? or another program?10:05
Fator_DeeBogoMIPS: I'm not sure if it's a codec or config problem10:05
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darkauditFator_Dee: the backports repo has them as well10:05
Fator_Deedarkaudit: oh, didn't know that10:05
BogoMIPSFator_Dee: I've joined this conversation late and didn't know about this repository. What is it's URL, please?10:05
dabaSlonlotusleaf: why are you dissing, do you even know where the name comes from?10:06
Scorpionhow do i install   libglib2.0-dev10:06
darkauditnp :)10:06
Fator_Deemight as well install them now :-)10:06
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Hannes_  irssi roxors10:06
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tritiumBogoMIPS, have you read this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats ?10:06
Fator_DeeBogoMIPS: I think you can find it from the ubuntuguide.org10:06
demantikscorpion - run "synaptic" any way....in a terminal, or through a menu10:06
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demantikonce its open10:07
dabaSlonwow, no more arrogance10:07
demantiksearch for libglib2.0-dev10:07
sbcl3once the apache server is installed via synaptic, where do i put its files?10:07
demantikit will come up..tick the box and press apply10:07
dabaSlon /var/www?10:07
Naliothdemantik, irc links?10:07
tritiumScorpion, "sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev"10:07
lotusleafdabaSlon: I hates it10:07
Livermanhi, anybody here know what to add to the source.list in order to get kde 3.4 ??10:07
dabaSlonyou can specify another folder in the conf file, though10:07
dabaSlonlotusleaf: do you know where the name comes from>?10:07
tritiumLiverman, all you need is universe added10:08
dabaSlonI mean, I dont like the sound either...10:08
demantikNalioth - yes...mirc in windows, when u click an irc link it opens up the server and room10:08
lotusleafdabaSlon: yes, a result from their merger10:08
Livermanhmmm10:08
lotusleafdabaSlon: or acquisition, whatever10:08
shido6 if I have 200 files names foo.2 foo.3 , etc. I want to add a suffix to the end like .dat or .mp3 how do i do that?10:08
Liverman...meaning :)10:08
dabaSlonyeah, so, it kinda fits in...10:08
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lotusleafdabaSlon: yeah, like a turnip in a rectum undigested IMO10:08
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BogoMIPStritium, Fator_Dee: Ooops - time to RTFM. Sorry, guys, but I'm new to Ubuntu (more used to RH) and have been having trouble even finding all the docs and readmes. Thanks for your time, and I'll go and look up the reference now.10:09
dabaSlonlotusleaf: haha10:09
dabaSlonyoure awful10:09
Livermanooh, i see10:09
Livermanthanx tritium10:09
tritiumLiverman, see http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories10:09
lotusleafdabaSlon: thx10:09
lotusleaf;)10:09
dabaSlonbah10:09
lotusleafgrowl10:09
tritiumLiverman, if you add the Marillat repos, use "testing" with hoary10:10
orhsi know that linux is not specified for games but i just wonder if there is a game that is special for linux10:11
dabaSlonyup, gnometris10:11
orhslol10:11
Livermanok, thanx again10:11
sbcl3gnometris is awesome ^_^10:11
dabaSlonlook in your synaptic, there are a lot of games10:12
Livermanbut i could just go with universe right ?10:12
lotusleaforhs: every game is unique and special, just like every other one.10:12
dabaSlonlotusleaf: it is about that time to get off dope....10:12
lotusleafdabaSlon: dope free my friend, but schizophrenia is a bitch10:13
dabaSlonthen it is about that time to get on medication10:13
dabaSlonjj btw10:13
lotusleafdabaSlon: nah, I rather enjoy riding the waves of lunacy on a surfboard of ascii10:14
sbcl3guys: does ubuntu's mysql package come with phpmyadmin?10:14
jordanauorhs, are you looking for linux games?10:14
sbcl3and where is the mysql server located?10:14
jordanausbcl3, did you ever get that permission stuff working?10:14
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sbcl3no, but i can say i figured out why10:14
sbcl3jordanau: your method works for anythign that's not being mouted10:14
sbcl3*mounted10:14
krat3rin ubuntu how can connect to a ftp host10:15
jordanausbcl3, well that works too, and you got to learn how to use chmod which is good10:15
dabaSlonftp hostname10:15
dabaSlonin a terminal10:15
sbcl3i was able to copy the files from that partition to this one, so no real harm done10:15
sbcl3so does anyone know where the mysql server is?10:15
krat3rdabaSlon, tnx, i made ftp, and then it appeared "ftp>" in the command line10:16
krat3rtnx10:16
bodaciousbhow do i delete a non empty directry?10:16
dabaSlonyup that is that...10:16
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[koji] bodaciousb use -r10:16
dabaSlonrm -r directory10:16
bodaciousb[koji] , thanks =)10:16
krat3rdabaSlon, the rest i know10:16
krat3rjust doing ?10:16
krat3r:-)10:17
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dabaSlonrephrase that, krat3r10:17
sbcl3err...no one here works with MySQL?10:17
adrkhow do I install wxPython?10:17
adrkI don't see it in synaptic.10:17
dabaSlonwhat exactly is your queston, sbcl3?10:17
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sbcl3how can i set up a mysql database?10:17
Zorixtritium, do you happen to know anything about nvidia's geforce fx series capture device.. i dont think its setup right and i dont see linux drivers for it10:17
sbcl3where is the tool?10:18
dabaSlonwhat?10:18
dabaSlondo you know anything about it?10:18
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bodaciousbhow do i look for hidden files? i need to find everything .cvscedega10:18
dabaSlonls -l10:18
tritiumZorix, no, sorry...10:18
dabaSlonls -a10:18
dabaSlonsorry10:18
dabaSlonls -alt is good10:18
Zorixhmm10:18
dabaSlonor ls -al10:18
krat3rdabaSlon, the commands i knew, because before asking how to connect i've made just "ftp" and then it appeared in the cmd line "ftp>" and when execute any cmd it says that that cmd is not valid and it also says to press "?" for more informations10:19
sbcl3i need to get phpmyadmin installed10:19
bodaciousbdabaSlon, yes that will list, but how do i look in everything?10:19
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krat3rso after asking you... and doing ftp host10:19
sbcl3but to do that i need to know where mysql is kept i think10:19
toresbewhat's the package name for the Linux kernel?10:19
krat3ri knew the rest10:19
dabaSlonkrat3r: so now it works with the hostname,. right10:19
dabaSlonright10:19
krat3ryep10:19
krat3rtnx10:19
dabaSloncocol10:19
bodaciousbdabaSlon, i mean... seek the files out, not go to ever dir on my system and ls -a10:19
dabaSloni got that part, the ? confused nme10:19
tritiumtoresbe, they begin with linux-image-10:19
toresbetritium: ah, thank10:19
klaymwhat is the drive symbol of a flash memory? (the command I write on nautilus to open it up)?10:19
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krat3rk10:19
toresbetritium: ...s!10:19
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dabaSlonso see them in your folder viewer(nautilus?10:19
Zorixdont update the kernel10:19
Naliothdemantik, sorry it's been a long long time since i've seen mirc10:20
Zorixits buggy10:20
phxguyanyone care to help me out with Superkaramba10:20
toresbetritium: got an URL for a .deb for me?10:20
dabaSlonbodaciousb: ^10:20
tritiumZorix, which one?10:20
Zorix2.6.1110:20
bodaciousbdaba.. im in a console10:20
Naliothdemantik, i'm happy xchat allows external URL handling10:20
tritiumZorix, it's not supported10:20
toresbetritium: I'm doing this in a chroot, fixing a slightly borken harddrive10:20
Zorixfor a good reason10:20
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Zorixit locks up gnome10:20
dabaSlonso what do yuo want to do again?10:20
Naliothphxguy what is the nature of your medical emergency?10:20
toresbeNalioth: heh10:20
tritiumtoresbe, wouldn't you rather use apt-get to install it?10:20
demantiknalioth...it does? lol10:20
dabaSlonshow hidden files?10:20
dabaSlonall of them on a system?10:20
bodaciousbdabaSlon, no search for files10:20
k-dog2Brand new warty install.  What's the X display manager, what package does it run from, and what's the sysvinit file?10:21
klaymwhat is the drive symbol of a flash memory? (the command I write on nautilus to open it up)?10:21
dabaSlonlocate .cedega10:21
phxguyNalioth: for some reason when I have the LWP Theme running my console opens to the lwp directory instead of the normal $home directory10:21
anto9usbodaciousb: type locate <foo>10:21
bodaciousbdabaSlon, ahh ok10:21
dabaSlonor wahtever, may no work though, not ure10:21
klaymI mean USB memory10:21
toresbetritium: nope, it's not running Ubuntu right now - and I can't chroot because Ubuntu is for amd64 and Debian, which I'm currently in, is for i38610:21
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tritiumk-dog2, gdm, /etc/init.d/gdm10:21
klaymnot flash10:21
orhsanyone here interested in the occult?10:21
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dabaSlonorhs: why?10:21
tritiumorhs, please, not here10:21
orhsjust want to know10:21
k-dog2tritium: Thanks, didn't get installed, odd.10:21
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orhsok tritinum10:21
tritiumthanks10:22
dabaSloncheck out my poll, orhs10:22
orhsdabaSlon, what and were can i find your poll?10:22
tritiumtoresbe, check out packages.ubuntu.com, then10:22
toresbetritium: thanks10:22
Naliothphxguy, check your LWP rc file (or whatever file controls how it works)10:22
tritiumtoresbe, you usually want linux-<architecture>, so that it pulls in linux-restricted-modules as well10:23
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k-dog2Any Ubuntu devs here?10:23
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Naliothphxguy, sounds like a malformed line10:23
tritiumk-dog2, are you using gnome?10:23
k-dog2Note that I got to "You should never see this question" asking for release version.  warty, hoary, grumpy, perky...10:23
k-dog2tritium: Not if I can help it ;-)10:23
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toresbetritium: Just need to reinstall10:23
demantikNALIOTH: what i want, is to be able to click an irc link... irc://server.com:port/channel and have xchat load taht for me.10:23
cmg_tritium, back.. any advice for my xorg hell?10:24
k-dog2tritium: ...but for the other users on this box, yes, I'd like default Ubuntu install10:24
phxguyNalioth: what am i looking for?10:24
Zorixwhen is the next version of ubuntu due out approximately10:24
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jbmigelhey all, howto defrag ext3 partitions?10:24
tritiumZorix, Octover10:24
tritiumcmg_, no, not at the moment, sorry.10:24
k-dog2tritium: OK, that's now running....10:24
tritiumk-dog2, that should run at startup10:24
anto9usjbmigel: as I understand it, it shouldnt' be necessary10:25
k-dog2tritium: it didn't get loaded.10:25
robertjif your reading from 8 striped 7200 rpm drives, what kind of throughput can you expect barring any bottlenecks other than disk speed?10:25
Zorixlong time.. will a kernel update be available before that? like 2.6.12.. i was told that my via ide controller dma bug will be fixed in 2.6.1210:25
cmg_tritium, would it be worth entering a bug somewhere?  I am hoping the next release will fix it10:25
k-dog2tritium: Very experienced Debian user here.10:25
toresbetritium: beh, I'll have to reinstall--- the filesystem is screwed up10:25
k-dog2tritium: What's Ubuntu's package bundle concept called, and how would I re-fetch the stock bundle to reload?10:25
tritiumk-dog2, is it not symlinked to in /etc/rc*.d ?10:25
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Naliothdemantik, yes i understand. should be no problem, as xchat handles external URLs (i'm not the coder for it, tho)10:25
tritiumtoresbe, ouch10:26
k-dog2tritium: gdm was not installed.  I just installed and started it.10:26
rainerHi erverybody - solved my problem10:26
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Naliothphxguy, of that i'm not sure10:26
tritiumk-dog2, package bundle concept?10:26
k-dog2tritium: ...looks like I missed some packages on installation.10:26
tritiumodd10:26
Naliothphxguy, perhaps you should hit the forums10:26
k-dog2tritium: Are you an Ubuntu dev / Canonical staffer?10:26
phxguyNalioth: well it doesn't matter because its empty10:26
tritiumk-dog2, might want to make sure you have all the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop10:26
k-dog2tritium: bundle == set of debs.10:26
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muk_amd64what do I need to do for working dvd playback?10:27
tritiumk-dog2, no, not a dev.  I just work on packages in universe.  No, different employer.10:27
k-dog2tritium: OK.10:27
Zorixmuk_amd64.. the css libraries10:27
k-dog2tritium: That's now d/l'ing 121 MB of packages.10:27
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phxguymuk_amd64: ubuntuguide.org10:27
tritiumk-dog2, something went wrong during your install, sounds like10:27
k-dog2tritium: ...so something borked in install.  We did partial custom/expert mode, had to try a few things, CDROM detection failed stock.10:27
k-dog2tritium: Yeah.10:27
k-dog2tritium: High speed line, we'll see what happens here....10:28
Naliothphxguy, somewhere there is a text file that controls how it works, hit the forums/faq for it and see10:28
cmg_tritium, think this will be fixed in the next Ubuntu release? or is my X screwed for life10:28
tritiumk-dog2, sorry you had problems10:28
rainerNalioth: Be carefull with timesettings in ubuntu. The problem seems to be that I used Network time synchronisation (which I activated yesterday) - repaired everything by just setting the date it was on 1.1.190410:28
k-dog2tritium: NP.  I can work through it.10:28
tritiumcmg_, it must be specific to your set of hardware.  Most people have no trouble with x.org and intel i81010:28
tritiumk-dog2, cool10:28
k-dog2tritium: Did an in-class demo yesterday, bare-metal to mixing beats (audacity) in ~1 hr, with explanations.  And a CDROM drive swapout.10:28
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k-dog2tritium: As I said:  very experience Debian hand/admin.  Know bob2 well.10:29
tritiumk-dog2, oh, cool10:29
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k-dog2tritium: ...and jdub, though on different terms.10:29
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k-dog2tritium: Google "an agony in seven fits"10:29
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tritiumk-dog2, heh, ok10:29
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k-dog2tritium: ...setting this puppy up for remote access....10:30
rainercan anyone help me in configuring wpa_supplicant?10:31
hyso_I am using ubuntu warty, is there a way so I can have the latest packages available for hoary?10:31
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muk_amd64phxguy, thx10:32
hyso_I mean, I only have firefox 0.9 and things like that, but I thing that other versions of ubuntu have more actualized packages...10:32
k-dog2tritium: ...ok, on from other box....10:32
hyso_thing=think10:32
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fr500hello10:33
dabaSlonyo!10:33
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demantikwoohoo! found my answer10:33
demantikhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25372.html10:33
bodaciousbanyone fimiliar with cvscedega?10:33
Kisainmy kubuntu crashed 0_o10:34
fr500i have a config file with a lot of routes, how can i run the command "ip route add" with all the routes in the file10:34
lotusleafbodaciousb: since you're still asking this, you might try linuxquestions.org10:34
tritiumk-dog2, okay.  I'll see you around.  I've got research to do.10:34
fr500like a loop that takes as input the file lines10:34
bodaciousblotusleaf, beent here =(10:34
lotusleafbodaciousb: frank's wine corner forums?10:34
bodaciousblotusleaf, sounds fimiliar, whats the url?10:34
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demantikpeople, im gonna go....6:35am ..Australia. Bye10:35
lotusleafbodaciousb: dunno I have it linked on my site though: lotusleaf.nermal.net/linux.html <- click on gaming/emulation10:35
lotusleafbodaciousb: or discussion fourms10:35
k-dog2tritium: NP, thanks.10:35
bodaciousblotusleaf, ok10:35
dabaSlonlater, demantik10:35
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AndyRquiet here tonight10:37
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lotusleafAndyR: better? :)10:37
Naliothrainer thx10:37
AndyRlotusleaf, yes10:38
cmg_tritium, holy crap i fixed my X prob somehow10:38
shido6anyone use xdcc assist10:38
Zorixwhat is a cheap s-video capture card supported by linux10:38
shido6or know of anything similar I can use with x-chat10:38
bodaciousblotusleaf, err franks has nothing eaither, that site seems way outdated10:38
shido6or get it working?10:38
lotusleafbodaciousb: did you check thier forums?10:38
cmg_tritium, after my Xorg -configure failed, it removed my xorg.conf and replaced it with a file named x.org10:38
tritiumcmg_, sorry, was away.  What did you do to fix it?10:38
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cmg_and now everything is fine.. i can set my resolution and all works great10:39
lotusleafbodaciousb: if that fails, you could try googling for a related newsgroup or mailing list and posting at any you find10:39
bodaciousblotusleaf, yeah..... im jsut gonna keep trying hte linux-gamers.org.org script file thing10:39
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tritiumcmg_, glad you fixed it.  :)  Now I better work on my dissertation.10:39
dabaSlonyeah, told you...10:39
lotusleafbodaciousb: have you tried the linux forum at arstechnica?10:39
bodaciousblotusleaf, nope.... i have googled it though...10:40
lotusleafbodaciousb: it doesn't hurt to post several places and wait for the replies to roll in and compare answers. ;)10:40
cmg_tritium, thanks for the help!!10:40
lotusleafbodaciousb: try arstechnica's linux forum section there's some brilliant minds there10:40
tritiumcmg_, you're welcome.  Congrats, and take care!10:40
bodaciousblotusleaf, i know..... ive seen posts with my problem and the reply is always buy cedega, your screwed10:40
lotusleafbodaciousb: lol10:40
lotusleafbodaciousb: well it's a smart marketing technique if that's true, because if cvs worked 100% without problems, would the commercial offering still sell? :P10:41
lotusleafbodaciousb: good luck, I gave up on WINEX when I tried it.10:41
bodaciousblotusleaf, =) i have a suspicion that cedega needs wine10:41
FlyingSquirrel32anyone know of a good instant messaging gateway?10:42
Kisaini can't beleve my box crashed o_010:42
bodaciousblotusleaf, i can make it run but it throws errors left and right, windows API errors, so im thinking somehting isnt installing properly10:42
bodaciousblotusleaf, ill get it eventually10:42
lotusleafbodaciousb: you've tried the Freenode channel for it right?10:42
bodaciousbnope10:43
bodaciousbim there now, ill ask =)10:43
lotusleafbodaciousb: you might try that.. and #winehq too just for shits and giggles10:43
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bodaciousblotusleaf, hehe ok10:43
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reD_Rumanybody else getting slow download speeds from ubuntu backports?10:44
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spadesgot my new lcd, thing is nice http://3spades.net/dump/05-06-05_1638.jpg10:44
lotusleafreD_Rum: define slow10:45
reD_Rum10 KB/sec10:45
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lotusleafreD_Rum: slow? My max is 5.xxK/s10:45
lotusleafreD_Rum: wanna trade?10:45
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reD_Rumlotusleaf: lol, nevermind =)10:45
lotusleaf;)10:45
reD_Rumalso, is there gonna be a problem since synaptic is trying to upgrade synaptic?10:46
NaliothreD_Rum, nope, it'l use the new version next time you run it10:46
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reD_RumNalioth: thanks10:47
queuetueEvolution is using up over a gig of ram, all by itself...  Why is that?10:47
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reD_RumNalioth: same thing if in a hypothetical situation gnome is being upgrade? or for that matter, the kernel?10:47
Daehliesounds like a memory leak, kill it and try starting it again10:47
KeizerIt's fun to try and keep Xine from crashing LOL10:47
cmg_tritium, i take it back.. it's still busted :(  it only works until I reboot10:47
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lotusleafcool! only 27 hours left in my ubuntu download.10:48
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queuetueAnd GAIM is using 200MB?  WTH?10:48
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reD_Rumlotusleaf: 2005, time to get broadband10:49
Triffid-Hunterqueuetue: every time i see things like that, its always mountains of cached files...10:50
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orhshey all, what should i begin with if i want to learn to hack?? (i want to be an ethical hacker)10:50
KeizerDamn10:50
lotusleafreD_Rum: that's an excellent idea, but I eat ramen meals, so.. not feasible. ;(10:50
dabaSlonlol10:50
KeizerTotem is bringing my system doooooown10:50
bodaciousborhs, start with google, not #ubuntu10:51
KeizerI should be able to play DVDs with a 1.6Ghz and 256MB of RAM10:51
dabaSlonorhs: a time machine, to get younger into it...10:51
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reD_Rumlotusleaf: how expensive can it be? hehe10:51
Fator_DeeKeizer: I play dvds with a 800mhz 512mb10:51
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atahualpawhere do i get a samba howto?10:51
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reD_Rumlotusleaf: are you in USA?10:51
KeizerFator_Dee, Twice my RAM10:52
terjeso.. this is a retarted question..10:52
KeizerFator_Dee, How long does it take to load a DVD movie?10:52
KeizerMine is still spinning10:52
terjeI have  a debian package (I'm a RH guy), how do I install it?10:52
reD_Rumatahualpa: google would be a good place to look10:52
Fator_DeeKeizer: haven't measured10:52
KeizerOMG10:52
Keizer< 5 minutes?10:52
Fator_Deeyou have dma on?10:52
KeizerMaybe10:52
Fator_Deecheck10:52
KeizerI'll check10:52
maximaus_terje:  man dpkg10:53
goldfishuse vlc10:53
terjedope.10:53
terjethanks.10:53
goldfishterje: dpkg -i moo.deb10:53
bodaciousbatahualpa, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba10:53
Fator_Deeand yes, <5min10:53
dabaSlonatahualpa: http://us3.samba.org/samba/10:53
goldfishKeizer: turn on dma and use vlc.10:53
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dabaSloni mean, there is an official howto...I dont know if you googled for it...10:53
lotusleafreD_Rum: I could be10:53
atahualpathx bodaciousb dabaSlon10:54
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bodaciousbatahualpa, np, that website answerd all of my ?'s10:54
wnightHow do I turn off gam_server? I can't find a startup script.10:54
Fator_DeeKeizer: and you have installed the library to decode dvds?10:54
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reD_Rumlotusleaf: so could i...?10:55
lotusleafreD_Rum: how expensive? it's simple: can you afford to buy a 2 liter of soda right now?10:55
KeizerFator_Dee, I have all that10:55
reD_Rumlotusleaf: yeah, well i have a job. do you?10:55
reD_Rum=p10:55
dabaSlonhah10:55
lotusleafreD_Rum: I can't afford that, so naturally I can't afford broadband ;)10:55
KeizerFator_Dee, Get this, everything in my hdparm.conf is commented out....10:56
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reD_Rumlotusleaf: actually i take that back, soda doesn't come in 2 liter bottles in this country10:56
reD_Rumloutleaf: so it would be impossible10:56
Fator_DeeKeizer: what does "hdparm /dev/hdX" say10:56
Fator_Deewhere hdX is your dvd-player10:56
NaliothreD_Rum, lotusleaf this is getting surreal10:56
Keizersudo /sbin/hdparm -d 1 /dev/cdrom10:57
lotusleafreD_Rum: not impossible if it was imported ;)10:57
KeizerThat enables DMA10:57
Fator_Deeit's -d110:58
reD_Rumi dont think they import that, lol10:58
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carambolhi how i remove the debian item in gnome menu10:59
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KeizerFator_Dee, I'll have to try Totem because MPlayer just shit itself when I tried to get it to play the DVD10:59
orhshey is there some other programs like evolution???10:59
goldfishKeizer: Get Vlc.10:59
Fator_Deeor xine or ogle or :-p10:59
lotusleafreD_Rum: but it's not impossible :)10:59
FunnyLookinHatVLC for GTK+ works good for me.10:59
reD_Rumtotem-xine is good10:59
KeizerI hate the way Ubuntu has sound setup11:00
KeizerPrograms crash while trying to use the sound because you have to kill esd or force eSound11:00
KeizerDMA support didn't help11:00
orhshas someone answerd my question?? :S11:00
Naliothorhs, microsloth Outlook?11:01
lotusleafKeizer: I hate the way god has earth setup, too many animals eating each other11:01
FunnyLookinHatorhs: Looking for a mail/newsgroup program?  Try Thunderbird11:01
reD_Rumlotusleaf: i suppose maybe i can order it from overseas.. i think this conversation lost its point a long time ago though11:01
FlyingSquirrel32Whenever I change my /etc/exports and run exportfs -ra, the changes don't show up when I type exportfs11:01
lotusleafreD_Rum: agreed. I win. ;)11:01
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reD_Rumlol11:01
Naliothorhs, sylpheed?11:01
Keizerlotusleaf, I like eating Animals11:01
lotusleaf:P11:01
fr500i have a config file with a lot of routes, how can i run the command "ip route add" with all the routes in the file11:02
KeizerA computer isn't God's creation11:02
fr500like a loop that takes as input the file lines11:02
lotusleafKeizer: even warthogs?11:02
reD_RumKeizer: are animals?11:02
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Naliothlotusleaf, warthogs are the tastiest of varmints11:02
lotusleafKeizer: sure it is, because humans created god11:02
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lotusleafNalioth: i've often wondered what penguin burgers would taste like11:02
something_elsethis is bloody pissing me off11:03
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something_elseok ... can someone let me know if this is the case11:03
something_elsehostname can be whatever not localhost11:03
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something_elsedomain something inside resolv.conf11:03
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KeizerWow11:03
KeizerXine played it11:03
orhshmm apt-get is not finding thunderbird...11:04
KeizerBut I can't hear Jack because eSound on Ubuntu is a freaking middle man11:04
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something_else/etc/hosts contains 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost hostname11:04
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something_elsewhat else is necessary for this to work?11:04
lotusleaforhs: so download it from mozilla's site ;)11:04
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jasoncan anyone help me with an alsa recording problem?11:04
bodaciousbhow to i unzip a tar.gz file11:04
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Naliothlotusleaf, very nasty, as they are chock full of penguin oil11:04
terjetar -zxvf file.tar.gz11:05
bodaciousbthank you11:05
Naliothorhs, look for mozilla-thunderbird11:05
terjeor just gunzip file.tar.gz11:05
orhslotusleaf, dont remember how i installed tar.gz files..11:05
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FlyingSquirrel32something_else: what exactly are you trying to do?11:05
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something_elseflying squirrel im trying to fix this dodgey problem11:05
something_elsewhere gnome complains about being unable to find my hostname11:05
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lotusleaforhs: the linux documentation project.. or whatever it's called.. is a great resource11:06
reD_Rumtar -xzvf filename.tar.gz11:06
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something_elsewhich is causing extreme slowness11:06
KeizerDo you guys have to kill eSound for Xine to work?11:06
something_elseand the regular crashing of gnome11:06
reD_RumKeizer: yes, i just disabled it11:06
reD_RumKeizer: a common problem11:06
KeizerI've been fighting it for months11:06
reD_RumKeizer: why dont you disable it?11:06
something_elseim pretty sure its to do with a mixture of /etc/hosts11:06
something_else/etc/resolv.conf11:06
something_elseand /etc/hostname11:06
InitMassdamn fuckin' firefox. it crashes very often when trying to save something11:07
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something_elsewhen i do host localhost11:07
something_elseall is fine if internet is up11:07
reD_RumKeizer: in gnome: System > Preferences > Sound > Uncheck "Enable sound server startup"11:07
KeizerreD_Rum, I love and hate it11:07
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something_elsefirstly, im failing to understand why internet is being checked for localhost11:07
reD_RumKeizer: it sucks, there's no point to having system sounds anyway11:07
something_elsewhen i have host,bind as the order in host.cof11:07
something_elsehost.conf11:07
lotusleafagreed, I disabled my system sounds, they're useless. Well, except for the pc speaker beep ;)11:08
Fish-FaceHmmm... Totem complains about missing plugins for _wavs_11:09
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reD_Rumfish-face: did you install totem through apt-get / synaptic ?11:09
Fish-Facetotem was already installed... It plays MP3s fine11:09
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Fish-FaceI guess it was installed through apt/dpkg, though11:10
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reD_Rumfish-face: maybe you can find the plug-ins in synaptic? search for totem11:10
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Copiteciao11:10
Copite:)11:10
Fish-FacereD_Rum, well, sure, but a codec for .wavs? I don't see anything with gstreamer-wav or whatever11:11
reD_Rumi uninstalled the default totem and installed totem-xine in its place, that should support .wavs i believe11:11
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reD_Rumi dunno, the default totem sucks11:11
Fish-FaceHmm... xine instead of gstreamer perhaps11:11
Copiteposso farvi una domanda?11:11
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Fish-FacereD_Rum, I had all sorts of problems on FC3... Whatever file, it would say "unspecified error"11:11
holycow*hmmm*11:11
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Copitevolevo sapere se magari sapete xche i video in formato 3gp si vede il video ma non si sente l'audio11:12
holycowwhen using the setup printer dialog menu, what is the syntax to connect to a shared printer over a windows domain (printer connected to windows box)?11:12
reD_Rumfish-face: i think you'll find less crap like that in ubuntu =)11:12
holycow  /workgroup/machine/printershare <-- like that?11:12
Naliothcopilot, is tht italian?11:12
Fish-FacereD_Rum, yeah... Well, it works with totem-xine11:12
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BiSONguys i'm trying to mount my primary hd but i got superblock error ,, how to fix that ?11:13
reD_Rumfish-face: thought so, gstreamer sucks11:13
ShadowRagetotem-xine won't play dvd's11:13
ShadowRageI have all the dvd libs installed11:13
ShadowRagesays it needs a plugin11:13
Fish-FaceOne of the reasons for Ubuntu was actual decent synaptic support :)11:13
Fish-FaceGotta love synaptic11:13
ShadowRageI have the w32 plugins installed11:13
reD_Rumoh, i don't have a DVD player, so i don't know =p11:13
ShadowRagethen dont say anything :P11:13
holycowsynaptic always worked great, what are you talking about Fish-Face ?11:13
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reD_Rumfish-face: synaptic support is everything =)11:14
Fish-Faceholycow, not on FC3, funnily enough!11:14
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holycowsynaptic is meant for debian11:14
reD_Rumi didn't know it was supposed to work on fc311:14
holycowapt doesnt even work well on fc11:14
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reD_RumFC3 uses rpm11:14
holycowapt has been somewhat ported to fc too11:15
reD_Rumholycow: does it install everything on apt from source?11:15
bodaciousbi tired to install apt on suse 9.3.. i got it in there, but apt-get fglrx said that it didnt want the file,  somehow it wasnt linked to suse at all11:15
holycownot sure reD_Rum frankly i don't like redhat distro ... i do like the company and their people tho11:16
Fish-FaceThere's rudimentary support... It installs stuff, but it's shaky11:16
reD_Rumi haven't touched redhat in about 3 years so i dunno11:16
reD_Rumbefore ubuntu i had suse11:16
rymanare there any good IRC client beside Xchat ?11:17
Fator_Deeirssi11:17
ShadowRageoh11:17
ShadowRageI dont have ffmpeg installed11:17
ShadowRageTHAT COULD BE IT11:17
ShadowRage>_>11:17
ShadowRageokay then11:17
ShadowRagelater11:17
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holycowreD_Rum, i used suse too, i had nothing but problems with it so i switched to debian11:17
NaliothFC3 uses yum to mangle its rpms into place11:17
Naliothryman that is a good questin11:18
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rymanNalioth+  ???11:18
Quest-MasterYuck, SUSE11:19
goldfishryman: irssi is the best irc client ever.11:19
goldfishapt-get irssi-text tbh11:19
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reD_Rumholycow: suse pro was okay, came with most of the stuff i needed. but it was slow and installing packages was a pain. switched to ubuntu and never looked back11:19
rymangoldfish+  I think its installed in Ubuntu by default11:19
goldfishwasn't for me.11:20
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lotusleafreD_Rum: that's what I hope to do in about 30 hours ;)11:20
rymanto run it11:20
rymani type irssi in console irght ?11:20
Fish-FaceI tried SuSE, but it didn't go well11:20
ryman_hello11:20
goldfishryman: yep11:20
Fish-Facetrouble with kernel-source, gcc and so on11:20
ryman_hehe I can't see the users list11:20
reD_Rumlotusleaf: what distro are u using?11:20
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lotusleafreD_Rum: SUSE11:20
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reD_Rumlotusleaf: lol11:20
Fish-Face:D11:21
lotusleafreD_Rum: indeed11:21
bodaciousbanyone in here running kubuntu?11:21
reD_Rumlotusleaf: comparing suse to ubuntu is like comparing windows to suse11:21
goldfishbodaciousb: try #kubuntu11:21
Fish-FaceUnfortunately, switching to Ubuntu doesn't fix a bug with my network card11:21
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Naliothbodaciousb, today is my kubuntu day11:21
bodaciousbgoldfish, ok =)11:21
goldfish:)11:21
lotusleafreD_Rum: ;-)11:21
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Fish-FaceI have to include "ifup wlan0" as part of my startup script11:21
reD_Rumubuntu, is so much faster.. i was surprised11:21
Fish-FacereD_Rum, I found that11:21
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bodaciousbNalioth, can kubuntu toggle between gnome and kde? or are you stuck with what you install?11:22
Fish-FacereD_Rum, except if I boot with the network card plugged in... There's a point where it stops for ages11:22
lotusleafreD_Rum: Well I'm looking to give ubuntu a try after it finishes downloading. ;)11:22
lotusleafreD_Rum: which will require a format of my SUSE install ;)11:22
mjrbodaciousb, you can choose either when logging in if you have both installed11:22
Fish-FaceI was also attracted to the 1CD install of Ubuntu, over 3 for FC11:22
SbCl3how do i start the mysql server up?11:22
Fish-FaceAnd apt-get dist-upgrade, as opposed to downloading three ISOs11:22
SbCl3i'm getting complaints from phpmyadmin that it can't load the mysql extension "mysql"11:23
holycowFish-Face, heh, debian is up to something like 13 cds by now11:23
mjrbodaciousb, and you can install the usual gnome desktop by installing the ubuntu-desktop package11:23
Naliothbodaciousb, i'm probably not up on my linux, but i think you have to log out of kubuntu to log into ubuntu11:23
Fish-Faceholycow, yeah... I don't like the look of raw debian11:23
bodaciousbmjr, nice, im about to reformat my entire linux drive(Again)... should i use the kubuntu cd or ubuntu? if i want both...11:23
Fish-FaceA bit archaic, old and so on11:23
holycowFish-Face, not at all11:23
Fish-FaceGNOME 2.10... that's more like it11:23
zoddanwhat is the default root pass in ubuntu ?11:23
Fish-Facezoddan, there isn't one11:23
Fish-Facezoddan, root's locked11:23
zoddanlol11:23
SbCl3how do you unlock it?11:23
zoddanhow do i root then ?11:24
Fish-Faceyou can use sudo -s if you want a login shell for root11:24
Fish-Faceor sudo <command> to execute a single command11:24
mjrbodaciousb, then it doesn't really matter; you install from the other, and then install the other desktop system from the net11:24
bodaciousbmjr, Nalioth ok.... so install kubuntu and add apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to my custom little after-reformat-script? sweet11:24
zoddanthat sucks11:24
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holycowdebian will start to inherit ubuntu work post sid ... it's a big project11:24
Fish-Facezoddan, if you want a root account, do sudo passwd root11:24
SbCl3anyone know how to start the mysql server up?11:24
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reD_Rumlotusleaf: you will definately not regret it11:24
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Naliothbodaciousb, whatever you just said11:24
zoddanwhy do they have a root-console in the meny if you cant use it ?11:24
zoddanthats just stupid11:24
lotusleafreD_Rum: that's what I like to hear ;)11:24
Fish-Facezoddan, try your own password11:24
Orathoncan someone name a good program for hosting a FTP server???11:25
Fish-Facezoddan, I believe that's what the prompt asks for ;)11:25
k-dog2Orathon: No.11:25
jordanauOrathon, vsftpd11:25
zoddanit was my own password11:25
Naliothzoddan vestigial debian organ?11:25
k-dog2Orathon: ...however, if you must, proftp's among the least bad.11:25
x_orDoes anyone here use a blackberry with their linux machine?  Is it possible to sync blackberry devices with ubuntu?11:25
holycowokay so anyone know the host/printer field syntax in the addprinter dialog in gnome 2.10?11:25
reD_Rumohh finally my downloads from backports are finished, time for some cutting edge technology =p11:25
holycow \workgroup\compy\printer <-- ist that correct? doesn't seem to work right11:26
reD_Rumohh, firefox 1.0.3 =)11:26
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zoddandamn my WLAN is not working :(11:26
zoddancard wont load :/11:26
Fish-Facezoddan, what have you done so far?11:26
jordanauzoddan, what kind of card?11:27
holycowis it a prism54 wlan card?11:27
zoddannothing, just installed it11:27
reD_Rumthis sucks, i dont see anything new about any of this11:27
reD_Rumlol11:27
zoddanholycow: yes11:27
holycowprism54.org, download the firmware for it11:27
holycowplace it in the right folder and rename it11:27
holycowthe instructions are on the site11:27
zoddanholycow: dont ubuntu have the firmwae allredy ?11:27
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holycowmodule wont load because firmware cannot be distributed11:27
holycowof course not11:27
holycowits not free11:27
zoddanit was on the LiveCD11:28
zoddanstupid :P11:28
holycowno its not stupid11:28
zoddanyes it is11:28
holycowubuntu is basically debian11:28
lotusleafreD_Rum: just have faith(tm) that it's different ;)11:28
pshendhi all. i'm trying to add repositories in synaptic on hoary but the window doesn't come up - there's an error on the console about no module pygtk11:28
holycowincluding its social policies11:28
holycownon free software is not included11:28
reD_Rumi'm taking backports out of my sources.list, downlaoding at 10kbps compared to 90 is not worth this =p11:28
holycowplease read and install as required11:28
pshendany ideas whats up?11:28
Fish-FaceWeird... I compiled at76c503 module, and didn't install atmel-firmware... Yet it works?11:28
reD_Rumhow many people here use xfce with ubuntu btw?11:29
zoddanwhy is it on the LiveCD then ?11:29
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lotusleafreD_Rum: I'm downloading ubuntu at 5.xxK/s :)11:29
holycowzoddan, just shutup and do what i told you11:29
Fator_DeereD_Rum: o/11:29
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zoddanhaha11:29
Fish-Faceholycow, lol11:29
zoddanholycow: im working on it :P11:29
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Fish-Faceholycow, you tell him ;-)11:29
Orathonzoddan, just copy the file fro mthe live cd into a flash usb or something and move it to the11:30
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jordanaupshend, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list11:30
reD_Rumlotusleaf: damn.. that sucks. installing packages is gonan be a pain11:30
holycow:) it's friday11:30
Orathonzoddan nvm..11:30
jordanauholycow, yeah dont remind me, i have 2 finals tomorrow11:30
pshendjordanau, but is there a problem with my pygtk setup?11:30
zoddanOrathon ?11:30
reD_Rumjordanau: on a saturday?11:30
Orathonzoddan, yes?11:31
jordanaureD_Rum, on a saturday11:31
holycowjordanau, :)11:31
lotusleafreD_Rum: yeah but I'm used to it. :) Back when I used to use mandrek I downloaded 3 of their free isos via 56k11:31
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reD_Rumjordanau: ouch11:31
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zoddanOrathon: you mean /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ ?11:31
holycowbtw dudes, the ubuntu website is becoming a serioius store of knowledge11:31
holycowthere is some very very good info there11:31
jordanaureD_Rum, differential equations and thermodynamics11:31
bodaciousbholycow, my fav is ubuntuguid.org11:31
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lotusleafreD_Rum: I just imagine my 56k modem is like an oven vs. microwave situation: my 56k modem may take longer to download things but at the end it tastes better and was worth the wait ;)11:32
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holycow:) bodaciousb11:32
Fish-Faceholycow, woohoo! 2Mb connection!11:32
Orathonzoddan you said that the thing you needed was in the live cdor something, y now move the thing you need on the live cd onto ubuntu?11:32
reD_Rumlotusleaf: on the contrary.. oh, nevermind =p11:32
lotusleafreD_Rum: lol11:32
jordanaupshend, i don't know i just know that if you want to add a repository you can do it like i said11:32
zoddanOrathon no im downloading i11:32
zoddant11:32
reD_Rumjordanau: shouldn't be too hard =p11:32
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bodaciousbcvscedega is suck crap, im going to reformat and try again.. Uhhh11:33
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zoddanwhat was the name that i have to change to ?11:33
zoddanls someting11:33
KeizerWho loves ALSA?11:33
reD_Rumjordanau: i feel your pain though. i've been using 56k until a couple of months ago11:33
zoddanthe firmware11:33
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pshendjordanau, ok, thanks11:33
jordanaureD_Rum, ???11:33
lotusleafKeizer: Skype doesn't seem to11:33
reD_Rumjordanau: not you..11:33
reD_Rumi meant lotusleaf11:33
bodaciousbAlsa rocks... i jsut wish ubuntu didnt have that instilation flaw with the audigy input/output thing11:33
lotusleafreD_Rum: yeah it sure is painful11:34
Keizerlotusleaf, OMG noooooo >_<11:34
KeizerBeep Media Player loves ALSA11:34
Blissexfor ALSA documentation http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html11:34
bluesignis there a blindread like utility to recover CD for linux?11:34
zoddanholycow: ?11:34
bodaciousbi tried beep media player... i prefer xmms11:34
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KeizerI prefer BMP!11:34
KeizerIt's the Pimp Media Player11:34
lotusleafI prefer making my hands sing, it frees up my CPU to do other things11:35
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Fish-Facexmms smells like poop11:35
Fish-Faceor rather, i find it vaguely repulsive11:35
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os|gazhello, can anyone help me with a graphics problem?11:35
bodaciousbi use a really high res.... and beep is just to damn small!11:35
rymanI'm not running any bittorent client but I see it in Firestarter Events11:35
jordanauwell at least they are both better than that damn rhythmbox11:35
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lotusleafwhen I'm alone, my hands come alive and take a life of their own, they have their own unique personalities.11:35
Fish-Facejordanau, ugh, rhythmbox11:36
reD_Rumlotusleaf: oh, just admit your connection is too slow to download mp3s =p11:36
Keizerlotusleaf, Which finger likes 2.4 Kernel?11:36
lotusleafKeizer: the middle one11:36
jordanauhaha11:36
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KeizerLOL11:37
KeizerThat was nice11:37
lotusleafKeizer: you set me up for it ;)11:37
WaryasHeya11:37
bluesignis there a tool in linux to recover data from defective CD?11:37
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KeizerLevel 42 - Heaven in My Hands11:38
lotusleafI went to a hypnotist and paid them to "fool me once(tm)" into thinking my hands could come alive by being possessed by spirits when I was alone. It's hard to type because my hands want to talk11:38
gazziecan anyone help me getting my radeon 9700 pro working with 3d accel. in ubuntu?11:38
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Keizerlotusleaf, That sounds about like an acid trip11:39
gazziemore specifically, can't get direct rendering running with xorg11:39
shido6install fglrx, gazzie11:39
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gazziei have been fking about with help from whyz this evening11:40
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shido6got my 9800 working with it11:40
boejkahi:)11:40
gazziei'm a new to linux today11:40
shido6took some searching11:40
shido6but it works11:40
gazzietried a few things but not all working11:40
gazzie:P11:40
zoddanhow do i upload the firmware to the card ?11:40
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KeizerNO ATI DRIVERS FOR PPC LINUX >_<11:40
shido6google ubuntu fglrx radeon11:40
lotusleafKeizer: ATI sux11:40
shido6my 9800 works great with ubuntu11:40
shido6just no tv capture or tv viewing yet11:40
shido63d accel works11:41
transgresshttp://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto gazzie11:41
transgressgazzie: but instead of using dpkg-reconfigure run fglrxconfig11:41
gazziehehe i just tried this11:41
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gazzieended up with X not loading on boot :))11:41
reD_Rumzoddan: go to your video card's vendor's website and they should have instructions and the software to do it with11:41
zoddani need to upload the firmware to my prism54 card, how do i do that ?11:41
transgressgazzie: run fglrxconfig and make sure you remove the nvidia module11:41
reD_Rumzoddan: card*11:41
zoddanreD_Rum ?11:41
transgressgazzie: also, go into the file that it made called XFree86Conf-4 or whatever and change Keyboard to keyboard11:42
reD_Rumzoddan: i meant card dunno why i put video11:42
dirtypart11:42
transgressthen reboot11:42
gazzieheh, it's asking me about mouse, but my mouse isn't listed11:42
gazziewhat now :P11:42
zoddanreD_Rum: im not talking about video11:42
lotusleafboejka: read the ubuntu forums there's plenty of advantages mentioned ;)11:42
whyzgaz, xfree86conf-4 is xorg.conf in your case11:42
zoddanreD_Rum: im talking about WLAN11:42
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transgressgazzie: just pick ps/2 with a wheel11:42
reD_Rumzoddan: as i just said, i put video on accident. i meant to just write card11:42
transgressanyways... i'm eating... ima correct some shit in that in a few11:42
transgressthe wiki that is11:42
zoddanreD_Rum: ok11:43
zoddanreD_Rum: i need the commands that uploads it11:43
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zoddanreD_Rum: so i can bring it up at boot11:43
gazzieNow give the full device name that the mouse is connected to, for example11:43
gazzie/dev/tty00 or /dev/mouse or /dev/psaux (includes IBM Laptops).11:43
gazziehelpoc11:43
gazzie:P11:43
transgress/dev/input/mice11:43
gazzieok11:44
gazziekeyboard type... not a clue tbh11:44
gazzienoobiest questions of the night here?11:44
transgress104 us11:44
gazziei'm uk11:44
fr500is kotatsu here?11:44
gazzie:P11:44
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transgresslike i care... 104us will work for you11:44
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Fator_Deetransgress: you think we are mindless minions :-p, "we'll work for you master, yessss..."11:45
transgressyou are11:45
zoddandamn cant fint anytinhg about uploading the firmware11:45
zoddanholycow do you know ?11:46
Fator_Deetransgress: thanks for letting me know11:46
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saromAnyone here experienced problems with their Audigy 2 sound card?11:46
transgressnp11:46
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transgresson second thought gazzie you just want my xorg.conf?11:46
zoddananyone? :P11:47
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lotusleaflol mindless minions11:47
Zenhey all.. i need to know how to complete the process of installing from a tar.gz file11:47
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zoddanubuntu is not loading the firmware, why ?11:48
Zena.s.a.p11:48
lotusleafZen: tar zxvf filename.tar.gz11:48
Fahimcan somebody name me kernel-source and the gcc C compiler for ubuntu?11:48
transgresswell gazzie if you decide you want my xorg.conf ima post it on my site ... applies to anyone... it should work for most radeons i think... i chose fairly conservative shit on the syncs11:48
zoddanHEY ?11:48
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Zeni have extracted the file11:49
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Zeni have goten to the file dir11:49
Trackilizeri need your help guys11:49
Zeno i do ./configure?11:49
Trackilizernever used linux before11:49
fr500how can i run the command "ip route add" with all the routes in a file?11:50
gazziehmm trangress i'm quite some way through this config thing11:50
Fator_DeeZen: is there perhaps a file called, README11:50
gazziei'll get back to you on that offer if it fucks up11:50
lotusleafZen: ./configure && make \ then su -c "make install"11:50
gazzie:P11:50
fndZen, .tar.gz is just like a .zip or .rar, after that look for readme or install11:50
transgresshttp://irclikelife.com/othershit/xorg.conf <-- working radeon xorg.conf... remember to install fglrx, remove nvidia.ko, rape your mother, and reboot before using.11:50
lotusleafZen: or simplify it and use checkinstall program11:50
gazzietrangress:11:50
Zenthanks for the help11:50
gazzieExternal AGPGART module:11:50
gazzieIt is possible (but not recommended) to turn off the usage of11:50
gazziebuilt-in agp support of the provided fglrx kernel module and11:50
gazzieuse the external AGP GART module (agpgart.o) of the Linux kernel.11:50
gazzieIf you want to use the external module then ensure that it loads11:50
gazzieprior to the drivers full startup. In order to manually load the11:50
transgress.tar.gz is not like .zip and .rar because it doesn't suck nearly as much11:50
gazzieexternal agpgart module execute this on the commandline (as root):11:50
Zenill try now11:50
Trackilizerafter reading the ubuntu guide i installed all the codecs and firefox however i cant seem to be able to install Java and Azereus11:50
gazzie    /sbin/insmod agpgart11:50
transgressgazzie: #flood you bitch!11:50
gazzieor alternatively configure your system to auto load the module.11:50
gazzieDo you want to use the external AGP GART module (y/n)? [n] 11:50
gazzie:|11:50
Trackilizersimply doesnt work11:51
lotusleaflol11:51
gazziesry :<11:51
shido6you dont11:51
shido6need to screw with that11:51
lotusleafjesus christ on a pogo stick!11:51
Naliothlotusleaf, sorry i'm not up on my technospeak what is "su -c"?11:51
transgressgazzie: put yes11:51
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shido6i have "agpgart                34284  3 intel_mch_agp,intel_agp" on mine11:51
dabaSlon(16:52:17) lotusleaf: jesus christ on a pogo stick!11:51
shido6agpgart loads as a module11:51
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kwamehi11:51
gazzieok i've finished doing that and it's saved the XF86Config-4 file11:51
gazziewhat do i do next? :)11:51
kwameI just installed openssh-server with apt-egt11:51
lotusleafdabaSlon: yes, and? :)11:52
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kwameapt-get11:52
shido6not using xorg?11:52
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kwamebut know my question is ... how do i start the ssh server11:52
lotusleafNalioth: man su11:52
transgressgazzie: go in and change, Keyboard to keyboard11:52
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transgressshido6: the xorg drivers for ubuntu still write to xfree86 for some reason11:52
kwameif I type sshd I get this error --> sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path11:52
kwameany help?11:52
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transgresskwame: means god hates you11:52
gazzie    Identifier"Keyboard1"11:52
gazzie    Driver"Keyboard"11:52
Naliothlotusleaf, thank you11:53
gazzie2nd line there?11:53
Triffid-Hunterkwame: does /etc/init.d/sshd start work?11:53
transgressgazzie: then after you change Keyboard to keyboard rename it to xorg.conf... and yes the second line11:53
lotusleafNalioth: yw ;)11:53
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dabaSlonkwame: sshd what?11:53
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Fish-FaceBye bye all11:53
dabaSlonorhs: become a real hacker yet?11:53
orhsdoes linux have a program like adobe photoshop? besides the gimp11:53
transgressgimpshop11:54
orhsdabaSlon, nah..11:54
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lotusleaforhs: gimp cvs? :P11:54
gazziedo i reboot once i've done that transgress?11:54
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transgressi became a real hacker a little while ago when my debian shirt came in from cafepress... it gave me ultra hacker powers11:54
transgressgazzie: remove nvidia.ko first!11:54
lotusleaflol11:54
rymanhmm11:55
gazzieok11:55
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miguel_Good evening to everyone11:55
transgressgazzie: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/video <-- has the nvidia.ko file11:55
Naliothorhs, are you familiar with photoshop?11:55
orhstransgress, were do i get gimpshop??11:55
lotusleafmiguel_: a good day to you too11:55
transgressorhs: google11:55
orhsNalioth, abit why?11:55
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gazziewhat's the delete command?11:56
transgressrm11:56
transgresssudo rm in this case11:56
Naliothorhs, cuz the gimpshop that keeps gettin mentioned is gimp altered to the photoshop menus/look etc11:56
miguel_lotusleaf: yeah, in this round of the globe it's already dark, very dark11:56
dabaSlonsudo rm -r /11:56
kwameTriffid-Hunter, thanks man ... that did it11:56
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transgressdabaSlon: dont be a bitch11:56
transgressdo not do rm -r /11:57
transgressever11:57
orhsNalioth, lol no other change?11:57
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Naliothorhs, here ya go http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=24111:57
Triffid-Hunter:)11:57
lotusleafmiguel_: where are you?11:57
miguel_I've got a problem with my HP cd4e USB cd-writer11:57
transgressgazzie: sudo rm nvidia.ko11:57
dabaSlonwell, you might as well try once...11:57
gazziedone11:57
sbcl3__does anyone know how to get phpmyadmin working?11:57
gazziedeleted that11:57
miguel_lotusleaf: Lisbon, Portugal11:57
sbcl3__i can't get php to connect with mysql11:57
gazziejust checking i've succesfully replaced xorg.conf11:57
lotusleafmiguel_: wow, cool11:57
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miguel_The cd-writer keeps giving me the same error11:58
transgressand dabaSlon don't fucking tell noobs that because they don't know better... don't be an ass... this is a fucking help channel... not fucking #hackers on efnet... take that shit elsewhere11:58
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gazzieright11:59
miguel_/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0:<3>Buffer I/O error on device sda, logical block 011:59
gazzieso i reboot now?11:59
transgressgazzie: yes11:59
gazzieok11:59
dabaSlontransgress: lol11:59
gazziefingers crossed11:59
gazzie:)11:59
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lotusleafmeanwhile, back in pleasantville...11:59
Zensorry but this is a really n00by question.. all i need to do is search my pc for a fil.. how?11:59
scottanyone know of a player that allows the use of modern winamp skins?11:59
Zen*file11:59
lotusleafZen: su -c updatedb12:00

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